[12:00] <triple5> aSt3raL: yes i have the device plugged in. it is a usb device, so you can look at the devices that are there... (do you have usbview installed ( sudo apt-get install usbview )
[12:00] <sethk> alexwillmer, if you think about it for a moment, you'll see that can't be true, because logging occurs before any user space process is running.
[12:00] <czr> ardchoille, did you try plugging into different ports?
[12:00] <saik0> egytrack .Trash or .Trash-user
[12:00] <ardchoille> czr: yes
[12:00] <czr> sethk, kernel buffers messages until klogd will read them (when it starts)
[12:00] <alexwillmer> sethk, yes in memory, when syslogd starts it receives a dump of all kernal messages so far
[12:00] <czr> ardchoille, weird indeed. you should see messages about usb recoginizing usb devices when you plug/unplug them. but your dmesg doesn't show that at all
[12:01] <sethk> czr, usually, but not always.  Certain panics write to the log directly.
[12:01] <ardchoille> czr: The usb ports on this computer worked fine in Fedora, Mandriva and MEPIS.
[12:01] <egytrack> how i can put the trash icon in the desktop ?
[12:01] <czr> sethk, no they don't
[12:01] <triple5> sorry czr, sethk, alexwillmer can you go to #linux-fundamentals?
[12:01] <sethk> czr, ok, I'll jot it down the next time I see it happen and let you know.
[12:01] <jon__> anyone know how I can make FLUXBOX my default WM?
[12:01] <alexwillmer> im done, sorry for the OT
[12:01] <sethk> triple5, sorry
[12:02] <saik0> jon__, using GDM?
[12:02] <rosen> is there a shortcut for shifting between desktops?
[12:02] <sethk> rosen, in KDE control-alt,f1 (2, 3, 4).  I believe that works in gnome also.
[12:02] <czr> ardchoille, from /var/log/dmesg it seems that kernel needs to do some IRQ-rerouting because of buggy VIA
[12:02] <triple5> no worries, it is all cool guys, I like  a little bit of emotion... :-D
[12:02] <saik0> rosen ctrl+alt+left/right
[12:02] <czr> ardchoille, that might be the problem
[12:02] <jon__> No i mean getting rid on GNOME and installing FLUXBOX to be default
[12:02] <czr> ardchoille, can you pastebin /proc/interrupts?
[12:02] <ardchoille> czr: sure, hold on
[12:03] <saik0> you're still using a dsiplay manager, unless you use startx
[12:03] <_jason> ubotu tell egytrack about desktoptrash
[12:03] <rosen> thanks guys
[12:03] <triple5> but I was trying to help aSt3raL, channel got a little floody...
[12:03] <sethk> jon__, it depends on which display manager you are using.  (not window manager, display manager; hence someone's question about gdm)
[12:03] <mephis1987> oh
[12:03] <jon__> i have no clue, all I know is that i'm using gnome.
[12:03] <mephis1987> i came back
[12:03] <ardchoille> czr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/e10CQz17.html
[12:04] <svizzero> anyone knows a visual latex editor for linux?
[12:04] <mephis1987> can anyone answer me
[12:04] <saik0> jon__, GNOME, (and thus, ubuntu) ships with GDM as a display manager
[12:04] <triple5> mephis1987: can anyone answer me??
[12:04] <coag> http://pastebin.com/459873 im trying to setup my xorg.conf for dual monitors but it's not working
[12:04] <jon__> k. so how can I change it to fluxbox?
[12:04] <mephis1987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5634
[12:04] <mephis1987> here mylink
[12:04] <czr> ardchoille, looks broken
[12:04] <mephis1987> pls answer again
[12:04] <_jason> svizzero, I think LyX is one
[12:04] <czr> ardchoille, your bios is broken / mobo PCI IRQ routing is broken
[12:04] <mephis1987> i have been loged out for a wile
[12:04] <ardchoille> czr: what exactly is broken? Ubuntu?
[12:04] <sethk> jon__, if you didn't change the default and you are in gnome, you are using gdm
[12:04] <svizzero> _jason, thx
[12:04] <saik0> jon__ if you install fluxbox through apt-get or synaptic it will add an xsession for itself. you can just logout and choose fluxbox from your display manager, and from there set it to default
[12:05] <mephis1987> i have problem with make command
[12:05] <mephis1987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5634
[12:05] <czr> ardchoille, no. probably the kernel that 5.10 is using is newer that you've been using before and tries to fix things when they're too broken. it fixes them wrong for you
[12:05] <Stadsport> I'm having a weird issue with Firefox 1.5, if someone can help.
[12:05] <egytrack> thanks jason , it work
[12:05] <sethk> jon__, in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, there is a line DefaultSession
[12:05] <jon__> I know yesterday I did install fluxbox and went to xsession to set it as default
[12:05] <kabus> /quit
[12:05] <czr> ardchoille, if you look at the line of /proc/interrupts where you have uhci_, ..., you see that the counter is zero
[12:05] <sethk> jon__, this is usually set to default.desktop
[12:05] <czr> ardchoille, it should normally increase an all USB events
[12:06] <sethk> jon__, you can either change it there, or go to the default directory and replace the gnome links with fluxbox links
[12:06] <ardchoille> czr: I remember Fedora using a 2.6.13 kernel and all usb devices worked
[12:06] <coag> czr: when you are done helping him can you help me out for a second?
[12:06] <saik0> jon__, But it wont make too much of a difference if you're still using all th gnome apps
[12:06] <sethk> jon__, let me get the default directory
[12:06] <jon__> k
[12:06] <czr> coag, what's your problem?
[12:06] <coag> http://pastebin.com/459873 im trying to setup my xorg.conf for dual monitors but it's not working
[12:06] <triple5> mephis1987: sorry I have no idea...
[12:06] <ardchoille> czr: should I have usbmount installed from synaptic?
[12:06] <czr> ardchoille, but FC/RH kernels are heavily patched
[12:06] <priich> svizzero,  whizzytex ?
[12:06] <coag> the paste is my xorg.conf
[12:06] <ardchoille> czr: ah, I see
[12:06] <czr> ardchoille, it won't help. this is a kernel/hw-issue
[12:06] <rosen> Next question.. when I try to burn cd's and I get prompted to put in the new CD I get an error message saying that it was not mounted ... sometimes it works anyways though, but what could cause this ?
[12:06] <Seveas> czr, so are ubuntu kernels :)
[12:06] <mephis1987> anyone else?
[12:06] <mephis1987> can help me
[12:07] <mephis1987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5634
[12:07] <ardchoille> czr: Do you think a new computer would help?
[12:07] <B-166_ER-X> unrar nonfree is no more in the archives ??
[12:07] <czr> Seveas, sure, but not so drastically IMHO
[12:07] <shinu> is there any way of getting back an xterm that is running but i dont have a window for it?..
[12:07] <czr> ardchoille, nah, give me a second
[12:07] <aSt3raL> how do i like remake driver?
[12:07] <sethk> jon__, check the file /etc/X11/gdm/Init
[12:07] <aSt3raL> i did make and something got screwed up
[12:07] <sethk> jon__, check the file /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default, sorry
[12:07] <Seveas> mephis1987, that software is broken
[12:07] <mephis1987> i have problem with make command when installing a software
[12:07] <mephis1987> oh
[12:07] <sethk> jon__, back that file up _before_ changing it.
[12:07] <aSt3raL> can i clear the make and do it over
[12:08] <mephis1987> everything runs fine until make command
[12:08] <jon__> how do I do that?
[12:08] <Seveas> czr, no, it's not as bad as RH
[12:08] <B-166_ER-X> where can i get unrar nonfree ??
[12:08] <mephis1987> and sudo make install
[12:08] <Seveas> B-166_ER-X, multiverse
[12:08] <czr> coag, can you pastebin your xorg log too?
[12:08] <coag> alright
[12:08] <czr> coag, and explain what you mean by 'not working'
[12:08] <B-166_ER-X> seveas, all that i found is unrar-free
[12:08] <Seveas> !info unrar-nonfree
[12:08] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[12:08] <Seveas> look better
[12:08] <sethk> mephis1987, looks like the X dev files are not installed
[12:08] <jon__> alright thanks
[12:09] <coag> czr: X only loads on the Default Screen
[12:09] <egytrack> dose anyone have the Original CD of ubuntu ?
[12:09] <B-166_ER-X> hmm
[12:09] <czr> ardchoille, have you ever modified kernel command line?
[12:09] <sethk> mephis1987, the missing file (X.h) will be there when you install X development
[12:09] <Seveas> egytrack, lots of us have
[12:09] <B-166_ER-X> then i dont have the multiverse repos
[12:09] <mat__> hey guys i cant edit my grub menu.lst file
[12:09] <mat__> can some one help em out
[12:09] <sethk> mat__, did you use sudo?
[12:09] <coag> czr: where is the xorg log located?
[12:09] <ardchoille> czr: No, but very willing to try
[12:09] <Seveas> mat__, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:09] <egytrack> from where u get it ?
[12:09] <czr> coag, ardchoille give me a sec :-)
[12:10] <Seveas> sethk, yeah, but in the wrong paths - the software he tries is made for old xfree
[12:10] <egytrack> is it five CDs ?
[12:10] <czr> coag, try removing the numbers in "ServerLayout" (the 0 and 1)
[12:10] <Seveas> egytrack, no, 1
[12:10] <mephis1987> how can i install X dev file
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> what is the thing that someone has to install to get "open terminal" in the right-click context menu in ubuntu breezy?
[12:10] <czr> coag, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:10] <Seveas> mephis1987, it won't help. The software is broken.
[12:10] <mat__> can i edit it in the gui
[12:10] <mephis1987> how i get this missing file
[12:10] <mephis1987> uhm
[12:10] <mephis1987> really
[12:10] <egytrack> 1 install cd and 1 live CD and one for amd right ?
[12:10] <ardchoille> czr: you can help coag first since his prob seems more severe than mine, just don't forget about me :)
[12:10] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, nautilus-open-terminal
[12:10] <warno> how do I get bittorrent working on ubuntu
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> thx Seveas
[12:10] <egytrack> i mean 2 for amd install and live
[12:11] <_jason> warno, works by default
[12:11] <Seveas> egytrack, no, the package contains one install and one live cd
[12:11] <sethk> mephis1987, you can add a link of /usr/include/X11 to /usr/X11/include
[12:11] <Seveas> either i386, or ppc, or amd64
[12:11] <warno> sorry bit new to ubuntu..
[12:11] <Seveas> sethk, and then fix lots more errors..
[12:11] <czr> ardchoille, nah, I'm looking info for you. there are options you can give the kernel so that it will do the IRQ-mapping differently
[12:11] <pete__> can anyone help me with a weird gaim problem?
[12:11] <_jason> warno, app menu -> internet -> gnome bit torrent
[12:11] <egytrack> what is ppc ?
[12:11] <mat__> anyone, how can i have root acces and edit the menu.lst in the gui
[12:11] <warno> lol ty
[12:11] <mephis1987> k mephis1987, you can add a link of /usr/include/X11 to /usr/X11/include?
[12:11] <Seveas> !tell peter__ about anyine
[12:11] <ardchoille> czr: awesome
[12:11] <sethk> mephis1987, sorry, I was wrong about the file location, I was looking at an older machine.  The ubuntu (xorg) location is indeed /usr/include/X11
[12:11] <mephis1987> i dont understand this
[12:11] <czer323> sethk, Wonderful man, it worked!  I had to remove Firefox 1.5 and reinstall the 1.07.  Any ideas when 1.5 will be implemented?
[12:11] <pete__> _jason friend, can you help me with another problem/
[12:11] <Seveas> mat__, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:11] <czr> ardchoille, doesn't mean that it will work though :--)
[12:12] <sethk> czer323, no, not really.  I haven't heard
[12:12] <coag> czr: http://pastebin.com/460171
[12:12] <hyperactivecrond> warno: gnometorrent?
[12:12] <Seveas> czer323, for breezy: don't count on it
[12:12] <Seveas> for dapper: already there
[12:12] <_jason> pete__, just ask the channel, ifI know I'll help
[12:12] <sethk> mephis1987, a link is an alias for a file or a directory
[12:12] <B-166_ER-X> !multiverse
[12:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[12:12] <mat__> thank you
[12:12] <pete__> my gaim closes when i hit x, but i have the plugin for system tray?
[12:12] <czer323> Another 6 months maybe? ;)
[12:12] <B-166_ER-X> !sources
[12:12] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:12] <sethk> mephis1987, your software is looking for /usr/X11/include/X.h, but your machine has /usr/include/X11/X.h
[12:12] <ingo> does anyone use Mac on linux here
[12:12] <Seveas> pete__, did you enable thu pligun?
[12:12] <mephis1987> ah
[12:12] <mephis1987> so how can i change the link ?
[12:12] <pete__> Seveas where do i do that at?
[12:12] <sethk> mephis1987, so if you do this:  sudo ln -s /usr/include/X11 /usr/X11/include, the file will be found by make
[12:13] <warno> how do I use the bittorrent for file sharing
[12:13] <pete__> in prefferences? if so i did.
[12:13] <sethk> mephis1987, add, not change
[12:13] <mephis1987> wow
[12:13] <aSt3raL> how can i get ls mod to look for one specific module?
[12:13] <Seveas> pete__, in the gaim options...
[12:13] <mephis1987> thanks
[12:13] <sethk> mephis1987, you leave everything as it is so you don't screw up all the programs that are correctly configured.  :)
[12:13] <czr> coag, line 317
[12:13] <sethk> mephis1987, but adding a link is safe
[12:13] <pete__> i have the nautilus integration, and
[12:13] <coag> czr: i _just_ saw that too
[12:13] <coag> thanks
[12:13] <pete__> system tray icon checked.
[12:13] <czr> coag, seems that the 'cirrus' driver cannot drive the thing you have in 0:12:0
[12:14] <czr> coag, lspci and give the line that has your cirrus listed
[12:14] <mephis1987> before make command
[12:14] <mephis1987> i add sudo ln -s /usr/include/X11 /usr/X11/include ?
[12:14] <aSt3raL> anyone know how to get lsmod to search for one module?
[12:14] <mephis1987> is it rite?
[12:14] <egytrack> when i try to update with synaptic its says not authenticated
[12:14] <egytrack> what is that ?
[12:14] <czr> aSt3raL, lsmod lists the modules that are loaded in the kernel at that moment
[12:14] <coag> 0000:00:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5434-8 [Alpine]  (rev fc)
[12:14] <sethk> mephis1987, right, then try it.  You may simply get a different error, but it is definitely worth a try.
[12:14] <aSt3raL> ok
[12:14] <mephis1987> :D
[12:14] <aSt3raL> well my module is loaded
[12:14] <aSt3raL> how do i load the driver?
[12:15] <djk_> Seveas: what's up with !libvdcss ? shouldn't that be deleted?
[12:15] <GigaClon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron5100 at the bottom says to edit GRUB, but it doesn't say what file or where?
[12:15] <toothpick> Are you runnin xvidcap successfully?
[12:15] <pete__> anyone have any ideas why my gaim just closes with x?
[12:15] <sethk> aSt3raL, the module is the driver
[12:15] <czr> coag, try replacing in xorg.conf the 'PCI:0:0c:0' into 'PCI:0:12:0'
[12:15] <cybernicght> ol
[12:15] <mephis1987> :D another error ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/X11/include' to `/usr/include/X11': No such file or directory
[12:15] <egytrack> is it not safe to update via synaptic [ not authenticated ] 
[12:15] <sethk> aSt3raL, the rest should happen automatically when the hardware is detected.
[12:15] <sethk> mephis1987, in that case you probably do need to install the X dev files
[12:15] <coag> czr: ok i must test now
[12:15] <_jason> pete__, does the tray icon show up at all?
[12:16] <czr> coag, although you could just drop both of the BusID lines and try whether the automagic works
[12:16] <coag> thanks for your help
[12:16] <bob2> GigaClon: presumably /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:16] <czr> coag, good luck
[12:16] <sethk> mephis1987, if that's the case, the software may well be smart enough to find the file in the correct place
[12:16] <bob2> egytrack: correct
[12:16] <mephis1987> in synaptic ?
[12:16] <bob2> egytrack: but most people don't care, and it was the default for 9 years
[12:16] <mephis1987> uh,
[12:16] <mephis1987> i m not sure
[12:16] <aSt3raL> its not detecting the hardware
[12:16] <coag> czr: command to restart X?
[12:16] <czr> ardchoille, you ready? have you registered
[12:16] <sethk> mephis1987, right.  install X dev support and try your build again.  Then if it is still failing, and /usr/include/X11/X.h exists, we go back to the link
[12:16] <GigaClon> it wants me to add the acpi_irq_balance option but I don't know where
[12:16] <czr> coag, logout and login normally is enough
[12:16] <pete__> _jason no.
[12:16] <czr> coag, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace = kill X (and all programs)
[12:16] <bob2> aSt3raL: in what sense is it not detected?
[12:16] <bob2> GigaClon: as above
[12:17] <bob2> mephis1987: what are you trying to build?
[12:17] <ardchoille> czr: registered what/where?
[12:17] <sethk> egytrack, usually there is a file menu.lst and a link grub.conf, or a file grub.conf and a link menu.lst.  Either works.
[12:17] <czr> ardchoille, oh, sorry. in freenode :-)
[12:17] <_jason> pete__,  it should show up as soon as you check on it in plugins
[12:17] <dooglus> who looks after the pastebin site?  I just found a bug in the pastebin script.
[12:17] <czr> ardchoille, we could do this via privmsgs
[12:17] <pete__> _jason it doesn't :\
[12:17] <ardchoille> czr: yes, I am id'd
[12:17] <_jason> pete__, do you have other things in the system tray?
[12:17] <warno> why is there only my box in the list for Bittorrent
[12:18] <aSt3raL> this faq says to add alias ra0 rt2500 to /etc/modules.conf
[12:18] <pete__> i have a window switcher thingy.
[12:18] <bob2> dooglus: if it's .nl, I'd be guessing monsieur Seveas
[12:18] <bob2> aSt3raL: ignore it
[12:18] <_jason> pete__, do you have volume etc?
[12:18] <pete__> yea
[12:18] <aSt3raL> why ignore it?
[12:18] <tom__> hi, i new at linux, i have ubuntu, can anyone tell me how can i log myself as root
[12:18] <tom__> ?
[12:18] <bob2> aSt3raL: because it's of no use
[12:18] <Seveas> dooglus, bob2 is right as usual :)
[12:18] <bob2> tom__: you don't
[12:18] <GigaClon> bob2, I have the file open but I don't know where the option needs to be added
[12:18] <GigaClon> !root
[12:18] <ubotu> from memory, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:18] <Kyral> ubotu tell tom__ about RootSudo
[12:18] <mephis1987> i m trying to install Xvnkb
[12:18] <mephis1987> A Vietnamese input keyboard for X-window
[12:19] <tom__> thanks man
[12:19] <_jason> pete__, hrmm I dont know, do the other plugins work?
[12:19] <triple5> !sudo
[12:19] <pete__> _jason let me try one
[12:19] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:19] <warno> whats a good file download program???
[12:19] <bob2> GigaClon: # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro resume=/dev/hda2 elevator=as
[12:19] <bob2> GigaClon: the line that looks like that
[12:19] <mephis1987> http://xvnkb.sourceforge.net/?&lang=en here the link and the guide to install
[12:19] <_jason> warno, wget ?
[12:19] <bob2> warno: wget...
[12:19] <aSt3raL> ok well i have the module loaded
[12:19] <bob2> GigaClon: (yes, it should be commented out; run update-grub afterwards)
[12:19] <sorush20> guys i need to select a unicode font for my Konqueror where can I get a unicode?
[12:19] <Millenniumgroup> anyone know how to install? this one libstdc++.so.2.8.0 ????
[12:19] <aSt3raL> but theres no device
[12:19] <aSt3raL> what would cause that?
[12:20] <bob2> aSt3raL: great, no need to mess around in /etc/modules.conf
[12:20] <bob2> aSt3raL: define "no device"
[12:20] <bob2> aSt3raL: "not listed in a gui tool" is not a useful piece of information, tho
[12:20] <aSt3raL> ok
[12:20] <mpm2> My laptop is not recognizing pcmcia card... I think either the pcmcia slot hardware is broken, or ubuntu lost communication with it
[12:20] <aSt3raL> well i type iwconfig rt2500
[12:20] <rosen> Has anyone here had experience with running skype in ubuntu ?
[12:20] <bob2> mpm2: are you running dapper?
[12:20] <aSt3raL> and it says no such device
[12:20] <bob2> aSt3raL: just run "iwconfig"
[12:20] <GigaClon> !skype
[12:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:20] <bob2> rosen: lots of people have...
[12:20] <bob2> Millenniumgroup: what are you trying to do?
[12:21] <mpm2> does anyone know how to figure out how to pinpoint the problem?
[12:21] <bob2> !+info xvnkb
[12:21] <pete__> _jason the problem was having the natilus one checked
[12:21] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[12:21] <ubotu> Package 'xvnkb' does not exist.
[12:21] <Millenniumgroup> bob2, Im trying to run an old pinball game tha requires an older build, hence this one libstdc++.so.2.8.0
[12:21] <aSt3raL> and when i run the RaConfig2500 which is the gui config utility
[12:21] <Millenniumgroup> and I don't know where to place it/install?
[12:21] <bob2> Millenniumgroup: and the game is not in ubuntu?
[12:21] <rosen> allright, well my contacts sees me as being offline ... they are windows users... is this a known issue or have I missed something ?
[12:21] <_jason> pete__, ok strange cus I don't have that one checked and it works but as long as you got it to work
[12:21] <bob2> aSt3raL: ignore the gui tool
[12:21] <soundray> aSt3raL, is this a USB device?
[12:21] <Millenniumgroup> bob2, correct it's not
[12:21] <aSt3raL> it also says device driver not found
[12:21] <fhl> is eject via drive button actually going to make it into next rellease does anyone know ? ;-))
[12:21] <aSt3raL> soundray: yes
[12:21] <mpm2> How can I figure out if I have a hardware problem or software problem with my pcmcia card?
[12:21] <pete__> _jason thats what i mean, having it checked fucked me up
[12:21] <bob2> aSt3raL: does "iwconfig" see it?
[12:22] <sethk> mpm2, I'd start by looking for detection of the pcmcia hardware in the dmesg output or /var/log/messages
[12:22] <_jason> pete__, oh
[12:22] <bob2> aSt3raL: what are the last ten lines of dmesg? (#flood)
[12:22] <sethk> mpm2, I assume you said yes to the pcmcia questions during install
[12:22] <bob2> mpm2: you're using breezy?
[12:22] <Millenniumgroup> I pulled down a tar, extracted, tried to make the pl executable and it complained about my libstdc++.so.2.8.0, so I read I must use an older one
[12:22] <dhofstra> _jason  thanks,, that livecd totally worked!  live cds rock...
[12:22] <triple5> aSt3raL: just type iwconfig
[12:22] <pete__> _jason scratch that, i think it's still fucked up
[12:22] <aSt3raL> dmesg?
[12:22] <GigaClon> is it safe to remove the Hoary kernal (2.6.10)
[12:22] <_jason> dhofstra, cool, good to know ;o
[12:22] <soundray> aSt3raL, I had a similar problem to yours -- I gave up in the end and configured it with ndiswrapper.
[12:22] <aSt3raL> iwconfig doesnt see the device
[12:22] <_jason> pete__, watch the language in here please
[12:22] <aSt3raL> ndiswrapper crashes
[12:22] <triple5>  aSt3raL: you have to type dmesg
[12:22] <Kindred> how would I go about sharing a folder with a user in the same group, and having all the files/folders created in it receiving the same permissions by default?.. I just need pointing in the right direction, I guess.
[12:23] <pete__> _jason sorry, this problem is very annoying.
[12:23] <mpm2> bob2 yes, kubuntu/breezy...
[12:23] <dhofstra> now if I could just figure out syntax to let my user run this one program with root privelages and no password
[12:23] <rosen> I guess not then
[12:23] <sethk> Kindred, man umask
[12:23] <aSt3raL> ok i typeed dmesg
[12:23] <bob2> aSt3raL: then the driver isn't working
[12:23] <bob2> aSt3raL: we need the dmesg output
[12:23] <bob2> not. in. here.
[12:23] <warno> how do I run wget
[12:23] <Naxcon> what does "child terminated with 1 status"
[12:23] <Naxcon> mean?
[12:23] <Kindred> sethk, thanks.
[12:23] <triple5>  aSt3raL: paste the output in #flood not here
[12:23] <bob2> dhofstra: huh? NOPASSWD:
[12:23] <soundray> warno, 'wget url'
[12:23] <bob2> Naxcon: and you're seeing that, where?
[12:23] <mpm2> bob2 pcmcia wifi was working with another card via ndiswrapper, but it stopped working and I was sick of ndiswwrapper so I bought a card (orinoco) that is natively supported, but it's not recognizing it at all
[12:23] <warno> lol
[12:23] <sethk> Kindred, if you don't find a man, check the man page for the shell
[12:23] <_jason> pete__, yes, idk what else it could be.  You can try the windows solution and restart X to see if it plays nicely afterwards
[12:23] <active-matrix> wget url/passwd :D
[12:24] <pete__> how do i restart x?
[12:24] <bob2> mpm2: nothing in syslog when you plug it?
[12:24] <warno> whats a good url for mp3s\
[12:24] <Seveas> pete__, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[12:24] <Naxcon> bob2: im trying to install a driver and running the file as root. it says that each time i try. im probably doing something wrong though...i have no idea what im doing
[12:24] <_jason> pete__, save anything you are .... nvr mnd
[12:24] <mpm2> bob2 syslog?  I just catted out /var/log/messages... nothing there... where is syslog?
[12:24] <aSt3raL> ok its in flood
[12:24] <djk_> Seveas: could you take a look at the factoid libvdcss ?
[12:24] <dhofstra> bob2: in my user privilage specification area I have "<username>   ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/<programname>"  but that doesnt seem to be working
[12:24] <M3ocs-D4rksun> have some one alive here?
[12:24] <bob2> warno: www.emusic.com
[12:25] <warno> nice!
[12:25] <mpm2> and dmesg|grep pcmcia shows nothing
[12:25] <bob2> warno: however, you'll need to find another channel to talk about this, not here.
[12:25] <czr> dhofstra, is the program graphical?
[12:25] <david_m_e> grrr.... i feel stupid... how do i find all files on a Linux file system matching a particular wildcard? i am trying to find out if <stdio.c> is part of any of the development tools included in the base distrib of Ubuntu, but "ls *.c" only gives me files in root; "ls /*/*.c" only gives me files one dir down, etc... how do i search for a file anywhere on the file system?
[12:25] <bob2> mpm2: /var/log//syslog
[12:25] <M3ocs-D4rksun> hehe
[12:25] <bob2> Naxcon: show us the whole output in #flood
[12:25] <warno> ok
[12:25] <dhofstra> czr yes, it is mythfrontend.. but I am launching it from a terminal
[12:25] <czr> david_m_e, find / -name "*.c" -type f 2> /dev/null
[12:25] <david_m_e> hail czr!
[12:25] <bob2> dhofstra: stdio.h is in libc6-dev, but you need build-essential if you want to install anything
[12:26] <czr> david_m_e, although you might get more luck with <stdio.h>
[12:26] <bob2> david_m_e: ^
[12:26] <pete__> ty _jason worked fine.
[12:26] <_jason> pete__, cool
[12:26] <bob2> david_m_e: 'locate stdio.h' will search a daily-updated db for files on disk, too (-r lets you use a regexp)
[12:26] <czr> dhofstra, some graphical programs will not work trough sudo because of x-authentication issues
[12:26] <pete__> seems all my gdesklets i setup last time are gone now.
[12:26] <emacsen> if I want a newer package in the universe, is it better to file a bug report to ubuntu or Debian? :)
[12:26] <pete__> will that happen every reboot?
[12:26] <Naxcon> bob2: im not on that computer right now. im trying to install drivers for my network card and i keep getting that
[12:26] <bob2> david_m_e: apt-file and packages.ubuntu.com let you search for files in packages you may not have installed yet
[12:26] <david_m_e> damn... i knew there was something wrong with that line when the compiler complained... fyi, i havent prog'd in c or on a -ix box in 20 years... this is going to be fun
[12:26] <bob2> dhofstra: even if you specify the full path on the command line?
[12:26] <dhofstra> czr.. ahhh, but i have this working in suse using the sudoers file.. I'll keep plugging away at it
[12:26] <soundray> david_m_e, there is also a list of all files in an architecture that shows for each one which package installs it.
[12:27] <aSt3raL> ok
[12:27] <mpm2> bob2 yes I see it now: "Unsupported card  in socket 1 with prodecut info etc...
[12:27] <dhofstra> bob2 yes full path on command line
[12:27] <bob2> david_m_e: stdio.h is in libc6-dev, but you need build-essential if you want to install anything
[12:27] <M3ocs-D4rksun> warno wget <link>
[12:27] <aSt3raL> [4298613.690000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[12:27] <bob2> mpm2: is it a cardbus card?
[12:27] <M3ocs-D4rksun> only it
[12:27] <aSt3raL> that is the adapter
[12:27] <mpm2> bob2 although this card is listed as natively supported on multiple sites... what might I need to apt-get to recognize it?
[12:27] <bob2> aSt3raL: that's not very useful output
[12:27] <M3ocs-D4rksun> $wget <link>
[12:27] <triple5> bob2, aSt3raL has another wlan0 working...
[12:28] <triple5> maybe that's the prob
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> bob2, how do I export a variable, I placed the libstdc++.so.2.8.0 in my /usr/lib but I need to export the variable in order for the system to find it
[12:28] <aSt3raL> rt2500                149220  0
[12:28] <aSt3raL> thats the module
[12:28] <bob2> aSt3raL: how many wireless nics do you have?
[12:28] <mahangu_> how can I burn a VCD in ubuntu?
[12:28] <dhofstra> bob2 and czr  hey, when I launch it via terminal, I do get the program to run with root and no password, it is just my desktop shortcut that prompts for a password..
[12:28] <mahangu_> i have an .avi file
[12:28] <mpm2> bob2 it's a orinoco 8420-WD, i'm not sure what you mean by cardbus
[12:28] <aSt3raL> one builtin
[12:28] <bob2> Millenniumgroup: no you don't, /usr/lib/ is in the default library search path
[12:28] <St^Anger^19m> from where can i get some one-on-one java help?...it's a simple prob, but i just started learning a few days ago
[12:28] <aSt3raL> that one works
[12:28] <bob2> Millenniumgroup: if you did, tho, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is what you'd set
[12:28] <aSt3raL> and the other is usb and wont work
[12:28] <Millenniumgroup> k I'll try that, thanx :)
[12:28] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: just ask youe question...
[12:29] <marky> hi
[12:29] <djk_> mahangu_: the same way you'd burn it in any other OS, convert it to mpeg, and burn it as vcd with k3b for example.
[12:29] <david_m_e> very helpful, all; thank you; and now for my next question: c++ is great, but i noticed that Linux Journal readers had high regards for Python; i want to develop graphics intensive game-like apps that will run on -ix/Win/Mac ... will Python let me do that with more ease than c++?
[12:29] <marky> is this a help channel?
[12:29] <triple5>  aSt3raL: I had a problem with a wireless adapter that didn't work until I unplugged the network cable
[12:29] <aSt3raL> do i have to configure ubuntu differently to work with two wireless adapters?
[12:29] <djk_> marky: yes
[12:29] <mahangu_> djk_, how can i convert to mpeg?
[12:29] <aSt3raL> thats insane
[12:30] <triple5> marky: yeah
[12:30] <marky> djk  , are you busy?
[12:30] <djk_> mahangu_: transcode, mencoder..
[12:30] <uber_spaced> I just bought a DVD burner.  What software is there for me to use with Ubuntu?
[12:30] <sorush20> !sourceinstall
[12:30] <ubotu> sorush20: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:30] <xiaogil> hi
[12:30] <triple5> W e a all trying to help
[12:30] <cunter> hi
[12:30] <djk_> marky: sort of, just ask and someone will answer
[12:30] <uber_spaced> I know of XCdroast for burning CDs, but I dont know what to use for DVDs.
[12:30] <MachineScrew> is gnome-look.org down or is it just me
[12:30] <cunter> cann anybody tell me if port 500 is used by standart ?
[12:30] <xiaogil> Totem give me the following msg, what should I do ? => Totem could not play 'http://publicite.francetv.fr/pub-france2.asx'.
[12:30] <mwe> ubotu: k3b, but it uses the kdelibs
[12:30] <djk_> uber_spaced: k3b
[12:30] <ubotu> mwe: What?
[12:30] <bob2> david_m_e: how good a C++ programmer are you?
[12:30] <mahangu_> djk_, thanks
[12:30] <uber_spaced> djk_, thanks.
[12:30] <triple5> aSt3raL: have you ever worked with two wireless NICs?
[12:30] <_jason> MachineScrew, down for me too
[12:30] <aSt3raL> why wouldnt i be able to use two network interfaces?
[12:30] <marky> i 'm trying to copy a folder called win32 which is got my codecs in it , to /usr/lib  , but i can't get permissions
[12:30] <aSt3raL> never
[12:30] <mwe> woa
[12:30] <david_m_e> bob2, more like novice
[12:31] <bob2> david_m_e: in the sense that you as a skilled C++ would spank you as a newbie python one
[12:31] <bob2> ;)
[12:31] <aSt3raL> well unless you count right now :p
[12:31] <coag> nzr: didn't quite work
[12:31] <MachineScrew> whew I almos thought it was me
[12:31] <coag> now it looks like it tries to load X on the second monitor
[12:31] <Flying-Penguin> how would I output a command to a text file?
[12:31] <coag> but something is keeping it from it
[12:31] <aSt3raL> the two interfaces work on XP heh
[12:31] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: So I created a JFrame, then I created a JPanel, added a button to the panel..and it gets displayed well. Now I need to extend this. I created a class that extends JFrame (the constructor has title bar, size etc). I also created a class that extends JPanel, and which overrides paintComponent. The button displays ok. But i also want to display an image in the same Panel. But the code for loading the image is in a class, and its not getting displayed :S
[12:31] <coag> because it jsut goes black
[12:31] <marky> how do i browse copy and paste in root  , in a gui
[12:32] <triple5>   aSt3raL: the two interfaces work on XP ... which one is it using?
[12:32] <triple5> both?
[12:32] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: oh, programming java? #java
[12:32] <david_m_e> in theory, i know c++, but haven't developed anything other than a small QBasic to c++ binary tree lookup conversion for a pharmacy corporation
[12:32] <dura> How do I get to runlevel 3 in Ubuntu?
[12:32] <aSt3raL> ok say i wanted to do the alias thing
[12:32] <bob2> dura: why?
[12:32] <dura> Being 2 is X and all
[12:32] <St^Anger^19m> i cant join #java :(
[12:32] <bob2> aSt3raL: no, don't, there's no point
[12:32] <soundray> david_m_e, with Python you will be writing working, platform-independent code in less time. With C++ you will be writing more efficient code.
[12:32] <bob2> dura: that's not the case
[12:32] <Rustednail> What do I do when Ubuntu hangs after login?
[12:32] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: ...?
[12:32] <dura> bob2, Because I don't want X running?
[12:32] <aSt3raL> how can i make ra0 the device for the rt2500 module?
[12:32] <Flying-Penguin> DAMNIT
[12:32] <Flying-Penguin> how would I output a command to a text file?
[12:32] <bob2> dura: gdm starts in run levels 2-4 in Ubuntu
[12:32] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: it says i need to be identified
[12:33] <david_m_e> efficiency is less of a concern than speed and ease of development
[12:33] <soundray> Rustednail, is this a fresh install?
[12:33] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: then do so
[12:33] <marky> i just need to copy a folder from my home dir to /usr/lib , can anyone help me
[12:33] <aSt3raL> what does alias do?
[12:33] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: ...foo > blah
[12:33] <bob2> aSt3raL: it is of no use
[12:33] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: how?
[12:33] <_jason> Flying-Penguin, echo hi > file
[12:33] <dura> bob2, I mean, what to I use for telinit (runlevel) ?
[12:33] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: www.freenode.net, using the network
[12:33] <dura> Being 3 does nothing.
[12:33] <david_m_e> soundray: thanks
[12:33] <dura> And 2 is X.
[12:33] <aSt3raL> bob2: why do you say that?
[12:33] <dura> 1 is still single anyway.
[12:33] <djk_> bob2: could you take a look at ubotus factoid !libvdcss ?
[12:33] <bob2> dura: 2 is identical to 3 is identical to 4 is identical 5
[12:33] <dura> Lame
[12:33] <bob2> dura: if you want to stpo gdm, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[12:33] <dura> Why can't it just use the standards?
[12:33] <bob2> dura: no.
[12:33] <soundray> david_m_e, everything except "graphics, games" points to Python.
[12:34] <bob2> dura: there is no standard
[12:34] <dura> Yes there is...
[12:34] <dura> Not heard of LSB?
[12:34] <marky> can anyone help me?
[12:34] <dura> You know... what LPI is based on?
[12:34] <dura> :|
[12:34] <bob2> dura: which section of the LSB specifies this?
[12:34] <triple5> marky shoot away
[12:34] <triple5> what you need?
[12:34] <dura> bob2, Being you're so concerned, you tell me?
[12:34] <bob2> dura: I'm not claiming it's a standard, you are
[12:34] <dura> Ask a simple question and get shit for it.
[12:34] <kenichi> bye folks
[12:34] <bob2> moron
[12:35] <marky> triple5  , i'm trying to copy a folder from my home dir to /usr/libs but i can't get permission in the file browser
[12:35] <cunter> my vpnc says: /usr/sbin/vpnc: binding to port 500: Address already in use
[12:35] <cunter> why ?
[12:35] <xangel36> doen anyone knows a good messenger for ubuntu other than Gaim?
[12:35] <triple5> marky: okay, you need to sudo this action.
[12:35] <david_m_e> i still can't figure out how to 1) get my windows-key to do the same thing it does on my xp computer, e.g. equivalent to clicking on the start button; 2nd, how do i default Ubuntu to Shift-arrow marks text instead of generating the digit of the numberic-keypad-key that i hit (eg, shift-left-arrow starts marking text instead of typing a ') ?
[12:35] <triple5> because /usr/libs is a restricted area...
[12:35] <mahangu_> djk_, what would the mencoder syntax be?
[12:35] <marky> so i have to type it?
[12:35] <coag> (EE) CIRRUS(1): I2C initialization failed
[12:35] <_jason> marky, are you sure you need to do what you are doing?
[12:35] <coag> would that error keep X from loading up right?
[12:36] <triple5> marky: what's the file?
[12:36] <marky> its to get the codecs for vlc in the right place
[12:36] <david_m_e> correction: typing a '4'
[12:36] <marky> win32 codec folder
[12:36] <_jason> marky, w32codecs?
[12:36] <mpm2> so bob2 are there packages I can dl that will help support the card... I didn't understand your question about whether my orinoco/proxim card is cardbus or not...
[12:36] <marky> yeah
[12:36] <bob2> mpm2: is it a cardbus card?
[12:36] <djk_> mahangu_: not sure, i don't do things like that.. read the man-page
[12:36] <triple5> marky: you can also opena  nautilus with sudo and drag and drop...
[12:36] <marky> ah
[12:36] <mahangu_> djk_, thanks
[12:36] <marky> how do i do that
[12:36] <djk_> you're welcome
[12:37] <bob2> david_m_e: go to the keybindings dialog and bind winkey to the gnome menu
[12:37] <marky> thats what i need triple5
[12:37] <Rustednail> Has anyone run acros a problem with Ubuntu where it hangs after attempting to login? (blank brown screen with mouse cursor)
[12:37] <czr> coag, did your X start working?
[12:37] <david_m_e> bob2 thanks
[12:37] <bob2> david_m_e: text selection is toolkit and app-specific, but shift-left/right works fine for me in firefox at least
[12:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell marky about w32codecs
[12:37] <soundray> Rustednail, are you ignoring me?
[12:37] <mpm2> yes bob2 it's a pcmcia card if that's what cardbus means
[12:37] <navarone> marky...if you sudo nautilus...do what you need and close the session else you may forget and make things go boom
[12:37] <_jason> marky, follow the instructions ubotu sent you and you will be all set :)
[12:37] <bob2> mpm2: no, that's not what it means.  go check the box.
[12:37] <soldieruk400> hi all any ideas as to how i can instal my ipod ?
[12:37] <Rustednail> no text scrolling too fast, looking back, sorry
[12:37] <bob2> mpm2: how old is the laptop?
[12:37] <bob2> soldieruk400: install it? you mean, copy music to it?
[12:38] <soundray> Rustednail, is this a fresh install
[12:38] <david_m_e> also, gcc as installed doesn't support the "gui" mode; how do i recompile it to do so?
[12:38] <soundray> ?
[12:38] <nandemon1i> hi people
[12:38] <marky> the codecs make it so you can play wmp9 stuff in vlc
[12:38] <soldieruk400> copy music off it
[12:38] <xangel36> can some on tell me wht type of file are compatible whit Ubuntu other than .deb?
[12:38] <mpm2> bob2 it's actually a PC Card; laptop is about 3 years old, inspiron 8100
[12:38] <djk_> xangel36: source
[12:38] <marky> i'm gonna follow there instructions brb peeps
[12:38] <Rustednail> Soundray: sorry,  Im new to IRC and this program, its scrolling to fast for me, to anser your question, Yes it is a freash install
[12:38] <soldieruk400> i would use the install disk but doubt it would work on here lol
[12:38] <nandemon1i> I'm wondering if anyone knows howto set evolution so it automatically applies all filters each tim eI check messages
[12:38] <ardchoille> brb
[12:38] <bob2> david_m_e: what is "gui mode"?
[12:38] <bob2> mpm2: ah
[12:39] <bob2> mpm2: booting with some combination of "noapic" or "acpi=off" (to test) may work
[12:39] <david_m_e> bob2 good question; i wanted to find out myself; it sounded nice
[12:39] <bob2> david_m_e: gcc has nothing to do with guis at all
[12:39] <soundray> Rustednail, do you have enough memory? Ubuntu needs ca. 128 MB minimum RAM
[12:39] <david_m_e> perhaps i meant vim
[12:39] <mahangu_> anybody know the syntax to convert an .avi to mpeg using mencoder? the man page has a very small entry on it
[12:39] <david_m_e> sorry
[12:39] <Rustednail> Soundray: yes, 1GB
[12:39] <mpm2> bob2 I know how to do that on install, but with a standard boot how do I add options to the boot process?
[12:39] <bob2> david_m_e: ah, gvim
[12:40] <david_m_e> yes, vim -gui generated error "not compiled to support gui"
[12:40] <mahangu_> soundray, he can use less if he uses fluxbox or xfce
[12:40] <david_m_e> ah
[12:40] <soundray> Rustednail, are you familiar with the text console?
[12:40] <david_m_e> let me try
[12:40] <bob2> mpm2: do you know how to get into the grub menu at boot?
[12:40] <Rustednail> Soundray: Im getting a little used to it
[12:40] <soundray> mahangu_, yeah, it's not his problem anyway.
[12:40] <mpm2> bob2 I think so let me try
[12:40] <Rustednail> Soundray: but do not know the commands
[12:40] <chrisx1> Hey I Have A Problem With Bind Configureing It For my Domain Anybody help please?
[12:40] <david_m_e> bob2: gvim: command not found
[12:40] <uber_spaced> If I am using the 5.10 preview release of Ubuntu, should I feel compelled install the newer version, or is there a way I can update my current installation?
[12:41] <djk_> mahangu_: try #mplayer
[12:41] <yo2lux> Ubuntu is ready to replace a windows desktop?
[12:41] <_jason> david_m_e, you need to install it
[12:41] <priich> mahangu, avi is just a container format. Success would likely depend on the actual codec used inside the avicontainer.
[12:41] <_jason> !info gvim
[12:41] <soundray> Rustednail, you can switch to text with Alt-Ctrl-F1 and login there.
[12:41] <david_m_e> jason yes i know; but how? (thanks)
[12:41] <_jason> david_m_e, vim-gnome is the package
[12:41] <djk_> bob2: could you take a look at ubotus factoid !libvdcss ?
[12:41] <david_m_e> jason: thank you
[12:41] <bulio|lap> got an old emachines, 180MB RAM 533MHZ processor
[12:41] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I've tried that and can log in, but It will freeze at the brown screen when the GUI attempts to loa
[12:41] <bulio|lap>  good enough for Ubuntu?
[12:42] <pete__> bulio yes, but it will be slow.
[12:42] <pete__> slow for anything..
[12:42] <djk_> bulio|lap: yes
[12:42] <david_m_e> jason bob2 soundray :  thank you  -  thats all for now
[12:42] <Rustednail> Soundray:  Also freezes when I click on the Session or Language button below the GUI login
[12:42] <mpm2> bob2 i'm at the grub commandline what's the syntax for noapic?  'noapic boot' ?
[12:42] <soundray> Rustednail, yeah, understood. Log in on the text console and enter 'less .xsession-errors'
[12:42] <navarone> bulio|lap, you can try the server option install and gofrom there. You can add gui elements afterward as you need
[12:42] <bulio|lap> I have a ubuntu install disk from last year
[12:43] <Naxcon> all im trying to do is copy a file into the modules folder and i keep getting stupid permission denied errors. PLEASE someone tell me what to do... im pretty sure it has something to do with all this sudo crap but i cannot figure out how to get that to work???
[12:43] <jeffro> Can anyone tell me how to map a network drive?
[12:43] <bulio|lap> Ill put that on
[12:43] <pete__> Naxcon
[12:43] <chrisx1> Hey I Have A Problem With Bind Configureing It For my Domain Anybody help please?
[12:43] <pete__> have you tried setting the folder 777 ?
[12:43] <nandemon1i> anyone? howto automatically apply filters in evolution?
[12:43] <soundray> Rustednail, that will show you the log file from the X WIndow session.
[12:43] <nandemon1i> is it possible?
[12:43] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I'll give that a shot
[12:43] <soundray> Rustednail, can you do this as we chat?
[12:44] <quacker> hmmm... I'm finding ktorrent buggy (UI freezes and crashes).. is there a better bittorrent frontent client I can use?
[12:44] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I wish I could, Ubuntu is installed on this machine, the only machine I have :(
[12:44] <nandemon1i> quacker: try rtorrent
[12:44] <hawking> hello I have to remove hotplug scripts from executing at start cause there are a few probs anyway when I try to move them it says can't move read only .. I changed their access code to 777 still the same
[12:44] <soundray> Rustednail, ah, okay.
[12:44] <hawking> whatshould i do
[12:44] <jeffro> Can anyone tell me how to map a network drive?
[12:44] <nandemon1i> jeffro: mount it
[12:45] <chrisx1> Hey I Have A Problem With Bind Configureing It For my Domain Anybody help please?
[12:45] <Rustednail> Soundray:  Thank you for your help and your patience :)
[12:45] <soundray> Rustednail, well, .xsession-errors will contain a lot of stuff. But maybe you can find some message that makes sense.
[12:45] <soundray> Rustednail, give me another minute before you reboot...
[12:45] <Rustednail> Soundray:  Will the |more command work with that?
[12:46] <quacker> nandemon1i, will I lose the torrents parts I've alreaddy d/l with it, or can I 'port' them to the new client?
[12:46] <Rustednail> Waiting :)
[12:46] <soundray> Rustednail, 'less' is a kind of advanced 'more'
[12:46] <Seveas> most is even more advanced :)
[12:46] <Rustednail> Soundray: so the it will wait for me to press a key before scrolling
[12:47] <Naxcon> pete__: i cant change the persmissions cause it says im not the file owner...
[12:47] <soundray> Rustednail, yes, that's its main purpose. -- How long have you waited for something to happen on the brown screen.
[12:47] <chaumurky> Naxcon: usesudo
[12:47] <soundray> ?
[12:47] <chaumurky> sudo
[12:47] <pete__> hmm, naxon i donot know then.
[12:47] <Naxcon> chaumurky: everyone keeps telling me to use sudo, i have no idea how...will someone please explain how...
[12:47] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I've left it overnight, 6+ hours or so
[12:48] <oxez_> Seveas: didn't even know about 'most'. Just installed it and it looks nice! thanks :p
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[12:48] <ubotu> sudo is probably the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:48] <marky> now i get too ms ip (any connections from thi
[12:48] <marky> dam keyboard
[12:48] <soundray> Rustednail, okay, that proves that something's wrong :)
[12:48] <chaumurky> basically type the word sudo before the command you are using
[12:48] <navarone> jeffo try this thread...may help http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1159299&page=1
[12:48] <marky> how do i open the file browser in sudo?
[12:49] <chaumurky> say you use chmod - you go sudo chmod
[12:49] <_jason> marky, gksudo nautilus
[12:49] <_jason> marky, did the wikipedia thing not work?
[12:49] <chaumurky> yes, sudo is only for terminal commands
[12:49] <_jason> marky, gah ubuntu wiki i mean
[12:49] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I am thinking it might be a video problem, or problem with the driver.  I'm using a Nvidia 6800 card
[12:49] <navarone> _jason...whats the diff between sudo and gksudo?
[12:49] <marky> nah it stalled on the first time i tried to get it
[12:49] <_jason> navarone, try it :)
[12:49] <marky> next time it told me too many connections
[12:49] <_jason> navarone, gksudo gives you that popup for the password like when you run synaptic
[12:49] <chaumurky> gksudo is sudo for gui apps
[12:49] <navarone> _jason...I'm not that adventurous...<s>
[12:49] <soundray> Rustednail, if it's a video problem, you most likely wouldn't get a chance to log in at all.
[12:49] <navarone> ok
[12:50] <soundray> *if it was
[12:50] <jeffro> thanks
[12:50] <hawking> hello I have to remove hotplug scripts from executing at start cause there are a few probs anyway when I try to move them it says can't move read only .. I changed their access code to 777 still the same   I Think I should remount the disk rw how can i do that?
[12:50] <david_m_e> soundray, are you still here?
[12:51] <coag> czr: you heere?
[12:51] <soundray> Rustednail, on the login screen, you get options to load a failsafe session. Have you tried that?
[12:51] <soundray> david_m_e, yes, still here.
[12:51] <Rustednail> Soundray:  hmmm, that makes since,  I'll try digging through the error log... That was less .xsession-error
[12:51] <navarone> _jason...if you sudo or gksudo nautilus...I assume it is advisable to stop that nautilus session as soon as you are done...in order to not do anything mistakenly?
[12:51] <czr> coag, yeah, was kicked temporarily by lousy ISP
[12:51] <coag> alright
[12:51] <coag> well this time it seems to try to work
[12:51] <coag> but all i get is a black screen
[12:51] <_jason> navarone, I'd say so
[12:51] <soundray> Rustednail, /home/username/.xsession-errors
[12:51] <czr> coag, what did you do?
[12:51] <coag> and one error
[12:51] <david_m_e> csr, soundray: you told me 2 ways to find a file a file on my file system but they scrolled off of the screen buffer before i could save them... could you repeat please?
[12:51] <czr> coag, pastebin xorg log :-)
[12:51] <coag> (EE) CIRRUS(1): I2C initialization failed
[12:51] <czr> coag, that might be normal
[12:51] <coag> thats the onl error
[12:52] <czr> can you still pastebin please?
[12:52] <coag> yes
[12:52] <soundray> david_m_e, I mentioned just one. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/ has some files that will help, e.g. Contents-i386.gz (9MB)
[12:52] <soundray> david_m_e, if you download it, you can search it with grep afterwards.
[12:52] <david_m_e> czr was the other respondant; misspelled his name earlier
[12:53] <Rustednail> Soundray:   Most of the time, I cannot click on the session key, it will hang at that point,  sometimes (after a third install) I get a menu with that option, but it hangs when I click on any one of them, last, default, Gnome, Gnome failsafe, etc
[12:53] <marky> i think that'll work  , i try and make vlc play a wmv  , brb
[12:53] <soundray> david_m_e, I need this so often, I wrote a script for it.
[12:53] <czr> david_m_e, why <stdio.c>? why not stdio.h?
[12:53] <coag> czr: http://pastebin.com/460210
[12:53] <david_m_e> yes, i did download it, but the screen buffer is only so many lines, any they weren't enuf
[12:53] <david_m_e> czr typo
[12:53] <czr> david_m_e, find / -name "*.c" -type f 2>/dev/null
[12:53] <sled> is there a way to enable the "location bar" (ctrl + L) by default in nautilus?
[12:54] <david_m_e> czr think-o technically - its been so long since i prog'd in c that i forgot that header files aren't .h
[12:54] <soundray> Rustednail, okay, that makes your theory more likely. (driver problem)
[12:54] <Rustednail> Soundray: does it make a difference which version of Ubuntu (i386, AMD64)  I use,  I do have an amd-64 proc, so I tried the AMD 64 version,  I am currently downloading the i386 version now
[12:55] <synackuator> is there a convenient fluxbox package similar to xubuntu-desktop?
[12:55] <czr> david_m_e, header files are .h :-)
[12:55] <mahangu_> synackuator, not that i know of, no
[12:55] <navarone> Rustednail i386 is the default in cd install...you should stick with what is most appropriate for your system
[12:55] <soundray> Rustednail, it may make a difference. i386 is the better choice anyway, if you don't need the last bit of speed from your system.
[12:55] <mahangu_> synackuator, you can always just apt-get fluxbox and then do the utils you want
[12:56] <soundray> Rustednail, did you follow any of the NVidia-specific instructions?
[12:56] <david_m_e> czr as you can see, i am having slysdexia problems
[12:56] <czr> coag, your mode for cirrus is too high. your card only has 1 meg memory. so run it at 16 bpp, not 24
[12:56] <czr> david_m_e :-)
[12:56] <navarone> wow 1 mb of memory
[12:56] <coag> hmm
[12:56] <coag> ok
[12:56] <coag> navarone: it's an 0old school PCI card :P
[12:57] <navarone> coag I hear ya
[12:57] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I didn't see any Nvidia specivic instrucions,  Did I overlook them somewhere on the web?
[12:57] <czr> 5434 was quite nice to program, no MMIO though, a bit pita in that respect
[12:57] <sled> has anyone played CoD2 on linux, yet?
[12:57] <Rustednail> navarone:  I downloaded the DVD version for AMD64
[12:57] <czr> coag, might be that nvidia doesn't play nice with old-school cards that don't have MMIO btw
[12:57] <david_m_e> czr, soundray: thanks again
[12:57] <soundray> Rustednail, I think ubotu has some info about it...
[12:57] <soundray> !nvidia
[12:57] <czr> coag, or rather the old-school card doesn't play nice with modern cards
[12:57] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:57] <coag> czr: dual monitor works on XP
[12:57] <priich> have a cl 5428  somewhere but no motherboard to stick it in.
[12:58] <czr> coag, might be a driver issue then
[12:58] <cunter> how can i check which program on my py is currently using port 500
[12:58] <cunter> ??
[12:58] <czr> pridkett, vesavlb?
[12:58] <czr> sry, priich
[12:58] <coag> czr: so change DefaultDepth to 16?
[12:58] <priich> czr, sure is
[12:58] <czr> coag, at least if you want 800x600
[12:59] <czr> coag, 24 bpp requires either 4 or 3 bytes per pixel. do the math
[12:59] <coag> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:59] <fenris> cunter: netstat nlp
[12:59] <coag> should i take out 1024 there?
[12:59] <synackuator> mahangu, well it doesn't do xorg, you think xorg-common will do that part?
[12:59] <czr> coag, probably
[01:00] <synackuator> mahangu, i just did the ubuntu server install because i don't want gnome
[01:00] <czr> coag, X won't use the modes that you don't have memory for, or fail to satisfy timing requirements. so it's not a big problem
[01:00] <St^Anger^19m> i know unix and linux are different...but apart from kernel, what makes BSD and Linux different?
[01:00] <dooglus> cunter: netstat -plt | grep 500
[01:00] <mpm2> bob2 I've rebooted with the options you suggested (noapic first, then nopic &  "acpi=off") when I was running hoary it was installed with the noapic nolapic options, but I didn't do that with breezy re-install... is nolapic another thing I should try adding to the grub menu??
[01:00] <czr> coag, i2c is needed for DDC (getting monitor timing info), so you best fix your monitor HorizSync and VertRefresh to reflect reality
[01:01] <soundray> Rustednail, did you get these urls?
[01:01] <fenris> cunter: sorry, its netstat -nlp
[01:01] <Rustednail> Soundray: yes
[01:01] <cunter> thx, hmm, there is no programm running on port 500
[01:01] <chrisx1> Bind
[01:01] <czr> St^Anger^19m, OT: low level management tools are different
[01:01] <mr-russ> any clamav users here?  when installing the clamav package on breezy, it won't start as the init script refers to programs not installed.
[01:01] <jdong> how would I interactively unsplit a tarball split with split(1)?
[01:02] <jdong> mr-russ: is it log_daemon_msg?
[01:02] <navarone> mr-russ, did you install freshclam as well?
[01:02] <czr> jdong, cat file1.tar file2.tar > file.tar
[01:02] <soundray> Rustednail, there is another log file which is more likely to help you than .xsession-errors: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:02] <coag> czr: alright on the back of the monitor
[01:02] <jdong> czr: what if the tarballs are on different CD's and there's not enough space to put them all on HD?
[01:02] <St^Anger^19m> i liked PC-BSD's idea of having an installer PBI
[01:02] <coag> the only thing that  could be anythign says 60-50 Hz
[01:02] <mr-russ> jdong: yes.
[01:03] <czr> jdong, then you cannot extract them if they were produced by split
[01:03] <mr-russ> navarone: I did, reinstalling now, maybe I need to start that first.
[01:03] <jdong> mr-russ: those can be ignored; clamav still works
[01:03] <soundray> Rustednail, if you need more help, consider coming back here and posting that file to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:03] <Rustednail> Soundray:  I did look through that one (Xorg.o.log)  but did not know what I was looking at
[01:03] <jdong> czr: hmm, what about a hackjobbed python script that gives you a chance to wait and insert new media ;)
[01:03] <dooglus> jdong: while :; do read x; cat /media/cdrom/part*.tar; done | tar xf -
[01:03] <soundray> Rustednail, but following the nvidia instructions may fix it for you -- at least I hope so.
[01:03] <dooglus> jdong: hit return after mounting each cd
[01:04] <czr> jdong, could work. would need to read files and then output to a fifo with tar on the other side reading with tar xzvf -
[01:04] <Rustednail> Soundray: gonna go give that a try
[01:04] <soundray> Rustednail, that's it from me for today. Good luck!
[01:04] <jdong> dooglus: that looks like it may need 40GB of RAM ;)
[01:04] <czr> jdong, how can you have space for the extracted files if you don't have space for the tars?
[01:04] <coag> czr: how wld itranslate that into seful information?
[01:04] <mr-russ> freshclam starts and runs, but clamav does not.
[01:04] <Rustednail> Soundray:  Thank you for your help!!  :)
[01:04] <Rustednail> Thank you all!
[01:04] <dooglus> jdong: no, it won't need much RAM at all.  the output would be untarred disk by disk
[01:04] <mr-russ> it's an init script issue.
[01:05] <jdong> mr-russ: yes, I know, introduced by backports in 0.87.1
[01:05] <czr> coag, you had a useful modeline for the monitor '800x600@85'. use that for the 16-depth resolution
[01:05] <dooglus> jdong: linux won't try to hold the whole lot in RAM before starting tar.
[01:05] <jdong> mr-russ: the consensus was that it's harmless and lsb-init-scripts should NOT be backported
[01:05] <mr-russ> jdong: so if i get rid of backports it will work.
[01:05] <jdong> dooglus: ok, I see; data goes to tar before cat's done
[01:05] <jdong> mr-russ: it works anyway
[01:05] <dooglus> jdong: yes.
[01:05] <jdong> mr-russ: it just generates a warning
[01:05] <coag> czr: what do all the numbers after the "800x600@85" mean, and are they necesary?
[01:05] <jdong> mr-russ: get rid of backports and you're running a vulnerable 0.76
[01:06] <fhl> does anyone know if umount for a CD via eject button is coming in dapper ( or later) ?
[01:06] <jdong> 87*
[01:06] <mr-russ> jdong: but "start_daemon -p $THEPIDFILE $DAEMON",  start_daemon does not exist either.
[01:06] <mitch_> hello
[01:06] <czr> coag, they're precise timing information for that mode that is called '800x600@85". they are all necessary if you want to use a mode with that name
[01:06] <priich> !w32codecs
[01:06] <mitch_> Is there anybody out there?
[01:06] <czr> coag, where did you get the modeline from btw?
[01:07] <dooglus> mitch_: hundreds of us!
[01:07] <coag> czr: i copied the one from the other monitor :/
[01:07] <jdong> mr-russ: yes it does; /lib/lsb/init-functions
[01:07] <coag> and changed the resolution
[01:07] <jdong> mr-russ: that's included by every init script
[01:07] <mitch_> dungbuntu
[01:07] <czr> coag, aaah
[01:07] <czr> coag, then it wont work. the name '800x600@85" doesn't mean anything to X server
[01:07] <czr> coag, the timing parameters are what define the mode
[01:08] <coag> :/
[01:08] <mitch_> is there any real people out there?
[01:08] <mpm2> anyone else have recommendations for pcmcia troubleshooting?  a pcmcia wifi pc card (orinoco/agere) that should work natively isn't being recognized /var/log/syslog shows 'unsupported card' when I hotplug it...?
[01:08] <czr> coag, comment the modeline in monitor/gateway, then in "second screen", remove the 1024x768:s
[01:08] <coag> czr: ok
[01:08] <czr> coag, and fix the numbers for the monitor (VertRefresh and the other), your monitor manual should help you there
[01:08] <jdong> mr-russ: is freshclam or any of its friends showing up in `ps -aux`?
[01:09] <St^Anger^19m> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=9213 -> can some1 help plz? nobody is answering in #java :(
[01:09] <coag> czr: i dont have a manual ill have to find that online
[01:09] <mr-russ> jdong: freshclam is, but clamd won't.
[01:09] <mr-russ> jdong: looking at why not now.
[01:09] <mitch_> ANybody know any better chat servers where there is actualy people chatting?
[01:09] <_jason> is there an equivalent to diff or maybe sed for binary files available in the repos?
[01:09] <czr> coag, there might be a sticker on the back of the monitor too, of if it's a newer monitor, by pressing 'info'-button or similar
[01:09] <coag> czr: it's a gateway EV700 if yowu ant to help
[01:09] <HymnToLife> pfiouuuuuuuuuu, just reinstalled ubuntu
[01:10] <dooglus> mitch_: have you come into a #ubuntu channel to complain that people are talking about ubuntu?
[01:10] <jdong> mr-russ: me too
[01:10] <priich> Umm, has anyone followed ubotu's advice on w32codecs ? Because i downloaded the w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  linked from the wikipage and aegis says one of the files is infected with Magistr.a@MM virus
[01:10] <HymnToLife> some stupid library missing, it just wouldn't boot anymore
[01:10] <czr> coag, ok, give me a se
[01:10] <jdong> jdong@shuttle:/mnt/backup$ ps aux | grep clamd
[01:10] <jdong> clamav    5749  0.0  0.9  12252  9580 ?        Ss   19:13   0:00 /usr/sbin/clamd
[01:10] <jdong> mr-russ: clamd runs here despite of error
[01:10] <mitch_> no no...   I came into the ubuntu server because i cant find a server with anybody in it
[01:10] <dooglus> _jason: I don't know of a utility, but you can expand the .deb files and compare the contents.
[01:10] <navarone> mitch you must try harder
[01:10] <mr-russ> jdong: runs, then quits.  I just discovered that.  give me 5 minutes and I'll get something useful.
[01:10] <dooglus> _jason: use "ar xf <file.deb>" to get two .tgz files, and 'tar xf' to expand them
[01:11] <St^Anger^19m> join #yoper
[01:11] <czr> coag, HorizSync 31-63, VertRefresh 50-75
[01:11] <mitch_> damn but ive tried hard enough
[01:11] <mr-russ> /usr/sbin/clamd --debug -c /etc/clamav/clamd.conf; echo $?
[01:11] <mr-russ> 0
[01:11] <mr-russ> jdong: that's next to useless. :(
[01:11] <_jason> dooglus, hrmm I meant like if I had libflashplayer.so and wanted to change the second byte to 7 instead of 3 or something
[01:11] <czr> coag, then you don't need the modeline (comment it) and remove the 1024x768:s
[01:11] <clouseau> hola ubunteros
[01:12] <poningru> que passa clouseau
[01:12] <coag> czr: off i go again
[01:12] <rosen> wich is the most commonly used app for viewing dvds and dvd files ?
[01:12] <czr> coag, good luck :-)
[01:12] <clouseau> yeeeah, na nuevo probando cosas como siempre poningru
[01:12] <coag> czr: thanks
[01:12] <poningru> woah no me hablo espanol
[01:12] <jdong> mr-russ: looks like a configuration issue on your side then;
[01:12] <clouseau> de donde eres
[01:12] <_jason> dooglus, basically automating what would be done in a hex editor
[01:12] <jdong> mr-russ: my vmware session also runs clamav fine
[01:13] <poningru> !es
[01:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:13] <navarone> clouseau,  ubuntu-es
[01:13] <mitch_> montega?
[01:13] <clouseau> coo hay 2
[01:13] <mr-russ> jdong: I just expect it to give me something.  strace time it is.
[01:13] <mr-russ> jdong: thanks for the fast assistance.
[01:13] <dooglus> _jason: got a minute or two?
[01:13] <_jason> dooglus, sure
[01:13] <xangel36> can some one tell me how to install this? PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run
[01:13] <dooglus> _jason: sorry.  what did you want to do?
[01:13] <clouseau> putos guiris no jodais con el solo ingles que me cago en algo
[01:13] <jdong> mr-russ: np; g2g now, need me contact jdong@ubuntu.com or ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com
[01:14] <uber_spaced> Where should I go to figure out how to set my Ubuntu box up as a firewall / NAT device?
[01:14] <mr-russ> jdong: will do if needed.
[01:14] <jdong> thx everyone for the tar help, too
[01:14] <dooglus> _jason: you want to script the editing of a binary file?
[01:14] <_jason> dooglus, basically I can go into a hex editor and edit the nth byte to whatever value I want.  I was wondering if there was a command line utility.
[01:14] <xangel36> someone please
[01:14] <_jason> dooglus, yeah, I guess I could do it in perl or some other language but I thought there may be something like sed for it
[01:14] <dooglus> _jason: it would be easy enough to do with a python script
[01:15] <czr> xangel36, it's not ubuntu-related :-) try running it in terminal: chmod +x filename; ./filename
[01:15] <vilefridge> When I put a CD in either my DVD or CD-ROM drives, in nautilus, they appear empty.  Is there something I'm missing?
[01:15] <mitch_> hello hello
[01:15] <_jason> dooglus, k thanks
[01:15] <xangel36> hi con some one tell me how to install this using terminal can some one tell me how to install this? PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run please???
[01:16] <mpm2> bob2 you still around?
[01:16] <mitch_> hey anybody in there?
[01:17] <czr> xangel36, try joining channel #planeshift and asking there
[01:17] <HymnToLife> xangel36 > chmod +x <filename> and then ./<filename>
[01:17] <ardchoille> czr pm?
[01:17] <czr> pm?
[01:17] <ardchoille> privmsg
[01:17] <mpm2> Anyone have some ideas for me?  I'm troubleshooting a wifi card that's supposed to be supported: I tried the noapic and "acpi=off" options in grub, as well as noapic nolapic and so far the card is styill showing up in /va/log/syslog as 'unsupported' when I hotplug it
[01:17] <czr> ah, sure
[01:18] <aghaster> hi
[01:18] <coag> :O
[01:18] <dooglus> _jason: like this: echo 'abcdef' > file.txt; python -c "f = open('file.txt', 'r+'); f.seek(3); f.write('z')"; cat file.txt
[01:18] <jesse> How Do You Install A Deb Package
[01:18] <xangel36> yo mean chmod +x PlaneShift_CBV0.3.011.linux.x86-2.run
[01:18] <aghaster> hey i would like to create a ftp server on my ubuntu system
[01:18] <aghaster> how to do this on ubuntu?
[01:18] <vilefridge> jesse:  sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[01:18] <seth_k|lappy> jesse, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the.deb
[01:18] <_jason> dooglus, ah thanks! you didn't have to, I would have looked it up :)
[01:18] <vilefridge> :)
[01:18] <seth_k|lappy> i win :P
[01:18] <vilefridge> hehe
[01:18] <jesse> whats sudo
[01:18] <jesse> were do i type that
[01:18] <seth_k|lappy> SUperuser DO
[01:19] <rosen> aghaster, dont you have gFTP installed ? I mean ... isnt it included on the CD ?
[01:19] <seth_k|lappy> and you type it in terminal
[01:19] <dooglus> _jason: it's ok.  helps me remember it too :)
[01:19] <redeeman> hello
[01:19] <rosen> aghaster, programs -> internet -> gFTP
[01:19] <redeeman> anyone that could point me to the apt .deb package? adept somehow uninstalled it at a friend
[01:19] <navarone> rosen...aghaster needs server not client
[01:19] <yo2lux> i want to install gnupg with apt but i get the following error: gnupg is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. What need to do?
[01:19] <rosen> oh I thought both was in that
[01:20] <jesse> that deb package is on my desktop so how to i find the path
[01:20] <dooglus> _jason: if you want to specify the byte in hex: echo 'abcdef' > file.txt; python -c "f = file('file.txt', 'r+'); f.seek(3); f.write('%c' % 0x41)"; cat file.txt
[01:20] <_jason> yo2lux, nothing, you have it already
[01:20] <navarone> rosen> not that I'm aware...but I haven't looked...<s>
[01:20] <yo2lux> i write gnupg but i don't see and answer
[01:20] <yo2lux> bash: gnupg: command not found
[01:20] <_jason> yo2lux, gpg
[01:20] <dooglus> yo2lux: the command is 'gpg'
[01:20] <mpm2> hi randabis you have any ideas with pcmcia card failing to show up under ifconfig?
[01:21] <yo2lux> thank you very much!
[01:21] <Charlls> heyo
[01:21] <rosen> navarone, he can upload to others I know that much
[01:22] <mahangu_> how can I burn a VCD in ubuntu>
[01:22] <rosen> navarone, but other than that I'm blank ;) .. I just installed linux for the first time today ;)
[01:22] <Charlls> most ppl that suggest a linux distro for notebooks mention ubuntu. Why is that? is ubuntu based on debian?
[01:22] <dooglus> Charlls: it's based on debian, yes.
[01:22] <navarone> rosen> aghaster wan t a package that will allow them to set upa  server on machine that will allow others to upload to and download from machine...not simply retrieve and upload
[01:22] <dooglus> Charlls: as for why people recommend it for notebooks, I don't know.
[01:23] <randabis> mpm2: the card probably needs a module to be recognized
[01:23] <mahangu_> vcd creator?
[01:23] <rosen> navarone, yeah I understand now :>
[01:23] <St^Anger^19m> i never had better hardwate detection than with Ubuntu...never had a faster distro than Yoper...i like both
[01:23] <navarone> rosen> first linux foray?
[01:23] <rosen> I'm more interrested in knowing how I go about removing programs though ... stuff like Evolution and the likes
[01:23] <redeeman> sorry
[01:23] <redeeman> did anyone answer?
[01:23] <randabis> Charlls: debian and ubuntu are sisters in a sense
[01:23] <rosen> navarone, foray ?
[01:23] <dooglus> rosen "sudo apt-get remove evolution" ?
[01:23] <HymnToLife> rosen > better not remove evolution
[01:23] <navarone> rosen> first time suing any linux?
[01:24] <marky> Hi , I'm back
[01:24] <yo2lux> exist a way to use the latest firefox 1.5 on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[01:24] <mpm2> randabis thank you I will use that + google to try and find the answer :-)
[01:24] <navarone> using*
[01:24] <rosen> navarone, yeah
[01:24] <marky> Jason you still here
[01:24] <TheMoose> Hi all. I'm having a few problems with my onboard soundcard (alsa = Creative Audigy LS), in a shuttle SD11G5. I read some docs, installed alsa 1.10, still no luck. Basically, the card is recognized, I have a mixer, but not sound. any idea?
[01:24] <rosen> HymnToLife, why is that ?
[01:24] <Charlls> i see
[01:24] <HymnToLife> it will mess up your gnome packages
[01:24] <rosen> dooglus, thanks :)
[01:24] <marky> anyone got xine on ubuntu?
[01:24] <navarone> rosen> why do u want to remove evolution?
[01:24] <Goldfish> TheMoose: Use alsa-mixer, and check which ouputs are enabled.
[01:24] <rosen> HymnToLife, dang ... just seems like a waste  to have it lying around
[01:24] <dooglus> I'd like to stop evolution from loading up every time I click on the clock.
[01:25] <randabis> mpm2: what kind of card is it?
[01:25] <rosen> navarone, I dont use it anyways ... when I get a gmail account I will start using a client but I'm told there was better out there anyways .. thunder-something
[01:25] <dooglus> I used to be able to look at the calendar by clicking on the clock - but recently it's started trying to load evolution to show my task list, which takes far too long.
[01:25] <rosen> but for now I'm stuck with a hotmail account
[01:25] <vilefridge> ubotu, tell vilefridge about mounting
[01:25] <HymnToLife> thunderbird
[01:25] <rosen> that's the one
[01:25] <navarone> rosen> thunderbird... I use on windows but have not bothered changin email client here
[01:25] <ssam> marky, yes
[01:25] <_jason> rosen, want a gmail invite?
[01:25] <marky> anybody - does xine work on
[01:25] <dooglus> rosen: do you want a gmail invitation?
[01:25] <TheMoose> Goldfish : Analog Center/LFR, Analog Front at 80%. Everything else is off, SPDIF/OUT is muted.
[01:26] <Goldfish> I'm interested in how to use evolution between multiple machines. I have three computers. Only one is configured to download email and manage my calendar. Can't have three PCs fighting to own my email.
[01:26] <ssam> marky, install xine-ui
[01:26] <rosen> hehe not right now I got too much else to figure out as it is
[01:26] <marky> where from? what package? ssam
[01:26] <esc_ape> I have a question that you guys might know the answer to. What is OS X based on? Freebsd?
[01:26] <rosen> most of my drivers are not working 100% yet and still have some mounting issues popping up when I try to burn dvds
[01:26] <mpm2> randabis it's an orinoco pc card gold  8420-WD
[01:26] <navarone> rosen> ubuntu is best linux distro I have used...install and removing packages is a breeze
[01:26] <jesse> how do you install bin files
[01:26] <ssam> marky, xine-ui package, it might be in the universe
[01:27] <marky> ssam the universe?
[01:27] <dooglus> rosen: the web interface on gmail is so good that I don't even bother downloading my email any more.
[01:27] <mpm2> randabis it shows up when I hotplug it in tail /var/log/syslog as 'unsupported card, agere'
[01:27] <ssam> marky, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:27] <_jason> jesse, what are you tring to install
[01:27] <rosen> navarone, that's what I've heard .. I tried redhat and SuSe earlier (years ago) without much luck .. so wanted to give this one a shot
[01:27] <HymnToLife> navarone > that's why it's called "breezy" :p
[01:27] <marky> ssam thanks
[01:27] <dpt> does anyone knows a program to replace corel draw that runs on linux?
[01:27] <ssam> marky, enjoy :-)
[01:27] <ssam> dpt, inkscape
[01:27] <dpt> does anyone knows a program to replace corel draw that runs on linux?
[01:27] <randabis> mpm2:  it might work with ndiswrapper
[01:27] <dpt> ok
[01:27] <dpt> thanks
[01:27] <navarone> rosen> I have tried Caldera (ugh) and about three Mandrake/Mandriva versions
[01:27] <dpt> i'll look for it
[01:27] <jesse> something for amsn
[01:28] <rosen> dooglus, my main issue is that I want my program to check for it without me having to remind it ... like once every hour or so
[01:28] <ssam> jesse, gaim
[01:28] <rosen> navarone, oh yeah I tried mandrake aswell ... that sucked :O
[01:28] <_jason> jesse, chmod +x file; ./file
[01:28] <HymnToLife> I have tried Mandrake, Fedora and SuSE, without much luck either
[01:28] <rosen> I got quake running on it though .. with openGL
[01:28] <navarone> rosen> it looks nice...but kde and I did not see eye to eye...especially kppp back in the dial up days
[01:28] <jesse> hmm i dont like gaim very much
[01:29] <jesse> i cant edit my stuff
[01:29] <ssam> HymnToLife, breezy is the code name for the version
[01:29] <randabis> esc_ape: OSX uses some BSD but it's really a breed of it's own
[01:29] <jesse> chmod +x file; ./file whats that
[01:29] <rosen> navarone, oooh ... you've got much more experience in this field ... you allready lost me ;)
[01:29] <HymnToLife> ssam > I know that, thnks
[01:29] <navarone> rosen> kppp is used to dial to isp...kept dying on me back when I had 56k
[01:30] <C_J_Pro> Would it be ok if I ask a GNOME related question in here even if it isn't for Ubuntu (it isn't even on a Debian Distro)
[01:30] <HymnToLife> 56k stinks
[01:30] <HymnToLife> an I still have it :'(
[01:30] <_jason> jesse, chmod +x file gives the file executable permissions and ./file will run the file (assuming you are in the directory where the file is located)
[01:30] <Fujitsu> C_J_Pro: You just did then!
[01:30] <ssam> C_J_Pro, yes
[01:30] <C_J_Pro> let me get the error then
[01:31] <cafuego> C_J_Pro: Just keep in mind the response if probably not going to be useful.
[01:31] <rosen> navarone, ah allright.. it's pretty easy to set up a standard lan connection in this one ;)
[01:31] <joe_alf> have a question regarding gpg key. i've created one with expiration within 2 months. then send it on a keyserver. then i imported it on launchpad. my question is, let say my hard disk break before the 2 months expiration can i possibly recreate the gpg key or do i have to create a new one.
[01:31] <cafuego> joe_alf: You of course have a secure backup.
[01:31] <navarone> rosen> I had this puppy installed in 40 minutes tops...however the partitioning was still a bumpy ride.
[01:32] <C_J_Pro> I am trying to start gnome-panel and it crashes upon initialization but only displays the warning "Failed to add file monitor /home/cjpro/.gtk-bookmarks: Unsupported operation"  I am running GNOME-Panel 2.12.1
[01:32] <dubnium> anyone familiar with ppp configuration? I need to secure incoming ppp connections with a username/password, or ma address filter....
[01:32] <marky> ssam you are clever, thats done it. thanks ;)
[01:32] <dooglus> rosen: I use a program called 'gmail-notifier' to do that
[01:33] <HymnToLife> dubnium > which dialer are you using ?
[01:33] <ssam> marky, glad to help. you'll find load of goodys in the universe
[01:33] <dooglus> rosen: it uses gmail's RSS feed to check for new mail
[01:33] <sethk> C_J_Pro, do this:   rm -fr ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[01:33] <sethk> C_J_Pro, but do it _very_ carefully
[01:33] <marky> i'm off to browse it  , see you all later
[01:33] <sethk> C_J_Pro, you will lose your bookmarks, of course, but it will run
[01:33] <dubnium> HymnToLife, no dialer... just pda to laptop via bluetooth
[01:33] <C_J_Pro> sthk: I still recieve the same error
[01:34] <C_J_Pro> I compiled GNOME myself, didn't use any prebuilt binaries
[01:34] <C_J_Pro> I'm just asking here because ##gnome doesn't exactly have a fast reponse (if any at all)
[01:34] <ssam> C_J_Pro, do you have gamin or fam installed?
[01:34] <dooglus> rosen: I lied.  it's called checkgmail and it's here: http://checkgmail.sourceforge.net/
[01:34] <cafuego> C_J_Pro: Perhaps considering switching to Ubuntu ;-)
[01:35] <Dido-> Guys... lol;) I've customized the panels and now somehow I can see my applications, they go somewhere in the corner when I minimize them (I can use only alt+tab)
[01:35] <sethk> C_J_Pro, then you probably need to erase ~/.gnome* as well
[01:35] <C_J_Pro> ssam: I have neither installed
[01:35] <Dido-> Guys... lol;) I've customized the panels and now somehow I can see my applications, they go somewhere in the corner when I minimize them (I can use only alt+tab)
[01:35] <dooglus> Dido-: you need to add the "window list" applet back onto your panel
[01:35] <sethk> C_J_Pro, you probably have a clash between config and/or cache file formats in the two versions
[01:35] <sethk> C_J_Pro, or, you goofed when you built it.  :)
[01:35] <ssam> C_J_Pro, they are file monitors, maybe gnome-panel needs one
[01:36] <C_J_Pro> sethk: probably the latter
[01:36] <rosen> navarone, I didnt have any problems partitioning with ubunty ... I used the -killbill command
[01:36] <Dido-> dooglus oh:) thanks
[01:36] <sethk> C_J_Pro, you never know.  make sure it isn't finding executables from both the new and old versions
[01:36] <rosen> thanks dooglus I'll check it out
[01:36] <navarone> rosen> I had new drive and partitioned it leaving freespace for ubuntu
[01:36] <C_J_Pro> bah, forgot to install Gamin earlier
[01:36] <sethk> C_J_Pro, that's easy to get, because the default installation directory is different than the directory that ubuntu puts it in
[01:36] <rosen> ....I got a girl sending me nekid pics so I'm a bit preoccupied :O
[01:36] <pete__> nekid
[01:37] <pete__> ;-)
[01:37] <navarone> rosen> but took a few tried...before I realized I needed a bios upgrade
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Nakud!
[01:37] <dooglus> rosen: I'd get it to check every few minutes in that case :)
[01:37] <C_J_Pro> Naked <_<
[01:37] <HymnToLife> rosen > I know the feeling...
[01:37] <navarone> rosen> that's what the internet was made for...<s>
[01:37] <rosen> navarone, ah ok it's probably easier when I just wanted the whole thing deleted
[01:37] <HymnToLife> lmao navarone
[01:38] <navarone> rosen> I have plenty o space now...plus still can play Halo
[01:38] <rosen> dooglus, hehe it's on MSN though and a 10MB line ... just in case ;)
[01:38] <rosen> HymnToLife, of naked pictures ? .... maybe we should share our contacts ? :D
[01:39] <rosen> navarone, 'the internet is for porn .. grab your **** and double click .. porn porn porn'
[01:39] <C_J_Pro> cafuego: Can't exactly switch back to ubuntu.  Not exactly an option at the moment...
[01:39] <cafuego> C_J_Pro: Why not?
[01:39] <rosen> navarone, ah ok I'm more of a rpg kind of guy ... I need to find some that will run on a linuxbox though ;)
[01:39] <qt2> hmpedersen, what port does the remote desktop use?
[01:39] <C_J_Pro> Have to make my own distro for a competition
[01:39] <qt2> err
[01:39] <qt2> hmm, what port does the remote desktop use?
[01:39] <qt2> XD
[01:40] <dooglus> qt2: 5900
[01:40] <czer323> Is there a particular program I can download to make it easier to move a window inbetween the virtual desktops?  I'd like to just click on the window itself and move it.
[01:40] <cafuego> C_J_Pro: get Ubuntu, do a search&replace, call it Gnoppix, done.
[01:40] <qt2> dooglus, thanks ^.^;
[01:40] <cafuego> C_J_Pro: That works fine for hundreds of other distros ;-)
[01:40] <aSt3raL> im trying to compile
[01:40] <C_J_Pro> lol, I don't want it to be Debian based.  Just something with apt just never seemed right with me
[01:40] <aSt3raL> and i get the error 'no rule to make target'
[01:40] <C_J_Pro> can't figure out what it is though
[01:40] <aSt3raL> what is the problem?
[01:41] <_jason> czer323, idk but you can setup a keyboard shortcut for it
[01:41] <cafuego> aSt3raL: The fact you're trying to compile when you perhaps shouldn't.
[01:41] <navarone> czer323, when I move window/apps to another workplace I just right click and use menu
[01:41] <dooglus> aSt3raL: is there a makefile?
[01:41] <cafuego> aSt3raL: What are you building?
[01:41] <aSt3raL> there is a makefile
[01:42] <kid> I'm getting "~bash: startx: command no found" -- should I commit suicide? . . . or is there some other thing I can do to fix this
[01:42] <aSt3raL> a driver for a wifi adapter
[01:42] <cafuego> which one?
[01:42] <Seveas> kid, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop may help
[01:42] <aSt3raL> rt2500 linspire
[01:42] <kid> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[01:42] <chaumurky> kid: don't learn much commiting suicide...
[01:42] <Seveas> aSt3raL, this is not linspire
[01:43] <aSt3raL> there is something about switching the name of a directory that i dont understand
[01:43] <cafuego> I'm sure the rt2500 has prebuilt drivers in Ubuntu.
[01:43] <Seveas> aSt3raL, wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500Howto
[01:43] <Seveas> there are drivers for/in Ubuntu
[01:43] <navarone> is there a terminal command(s) for showing fan speed cpu temp etc...assuming you can with motherboard?
[01:43] <Seveas> don't use linspire crap
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> 'freespire' :P
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> navarone,  the 'lm-sensors' package can do that.
[01:44] <merly> my mbr or partition table or something is all messed up, and i don't have a windows system disk. anyone willing to help?
[01:44] <chaumurky> navarone: lm-sensors. Not a trifle to set up unfortunately.
[01:44] <kid> my sources.list is "default," well at least it was . . . used to be. Just turning this laptop on after a few months, has warty -- I'm getting lots of 403, forbidden at executed apt-get installs -- should I update my sources.list?
[01:44] <C_J_Pro> wait, who's using Linspire?
[01:44] <david_m_e> Seveas cze soundray bob2 ... main tiny .cpp prog: just main() with 1 printf to simply test all well with gcc install; however, my tiny prog returned error:  undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[01:44] <navarone> Dr_Willis, I have tried them without success...I am using Asus A7M266 mb
[01:44] <C_J_Pro> whoever they are, show them something better
[01:44] <chaumurky> kid: using breezy?
[01:44] <david_m_e> czr
[01:44] <kid> Warty warthog
[01:45] <chaumurky> ahh
[01:45] <dooglus> david_m_e: install build-essential
[01:45] <chaumurky> old one
[01:45] <USCRyan> *Question* it seems like my totem doesnt work, i cant watch any type of video fileson the web -- any suggestions?
[01:45] <kid> Wait, how do you mean to ask that? using breezy?
[01:45] <czr> david_m_e, yes?
[01:45] <merly> !mbr
[01:45] <ubotu> merly: I give up, what is it?
[01:45] <navarone> chaumurky, you mean my mb should be sent out to pasture? lol
[01:45] <_jason> USCRyan, use mplayerplug-in
[01:45] <david_m_e> i believe i have already done that, dooglus, i shall try again
[01:45] <chaumurky> just wanted to know which version you were using
[01:45] <aSt3raL> well ubuntu is supposed to have rt2500 support
[01:45] <Seveas> david_m_e, if it's c++, use cout << foo instead of printf(foo)
[01:45] <aSt3raL> however
[01:45] <bob2> david_m_e: dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1
[01:45] <qt2> dooglus, thanks.
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> navarone,  you ran the 'sensors-detect' tool first ? and configured the lm-sensors right eh? checking the lm-sensors homepage woule be the next bet.
[01:45] <bob2> david_m_e: remember printf for C++ is in cstdio, tho
[01:45] <USCRyan> _jason, how?
[01:45] <Seveas> david_m_e, and use g++ for compiling, #include <iostream>, buy a programming book
[01:46] <kid> I did a apt-get dist-upgrade.. but weird things happened, and not much happened at that. Is it "worth" it updating? and furthermore.. how much time will it take, recently these things have become a bit too frightening
[01:46] <aSt3raL> should it be where i can just plug in the usb wifi adapter and it works?
[01:46] <_jason> USCRyan, it's in synaptic
[01:46] <randabis> i'd use breezy unless you absolutely must use an ol version
[01:46] <aSt3raL> because thats not how it is for me at all heh
[01:46] <david_m_e> bob2 that may be the problem
[01:46] <navarone> Dr_Willis,  ummm...nope...I have to dl sensor detect or is it part of gdesklets?
[01:46] <bob2> kid: if you have to ask, do not use dapper
[01:46] <czr> david_m_e, did you want something from me?
[01:46] <chaumurky> what kind of internet connection do you have?
[01:46] <USCRyan> _jason, got it thanks
[01:46] <david_m_e> czr, i mispelled ur name earlier by several lines,
[01:46] <merly> teh computer boots into windows, no problem. But in the process of deleting an old partition, and creating a new one in gparted on the live cd, or in the process or removing some software, not gparted, fdisk, cfdisk, they don't see the drive correctly...
[01:47] <czr> david_m_e, that doesn't answer the question though :-)
[01:47] <kid> bob2: I have warty.. I meant, upgrading a little bit not that much
[01:47] <aSt3raL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[01:47] <aSt3raL> it says it supports it
[01:47] <aSt3raL> what am i doing wrong here?
[01:47] <david_m_e> czr:  undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'  in tiny .cpp containing only 1 printf
[01:47] <dooglus> czr: I just get g++ to compile a 1-line printf() program.
[01:47] <bob2> kid: then wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:47] <dooglus> s/get/got/
[01:48] <chaumurky> from warty to breezy will require a LOT of downloading. better to get the Breezy iso and burn it. you can upgrade with that or do a fresh install
[01:48] <bob2> david_m_e: time to show us the code and the command line oyu ran, in #flood
[01:48] <bob2> upgrading from warty to breezy will probably not work
[01:48] <aSt3raL> my wifi adapter is on the supported hardware page
[01:48] <czr> david_m_e, and that has to do with me how? :-)
[01:48] <david_m_e> bob i shall try a different header file first, ok?
[01:48] <david_m_e> brb
[01:48] <dooglus> david_m_e: this is my 2 line program.  can you compile it?
[01:48] <dooglus> #include <stdio.h>
[01:48] <dooglus> main() { printf("hello world!\n"); }
[01:48] <chaumurky> bob2's right. many changes since warty
[01:48] <czr> dooglus, and? :--)
[01:48] <david_m_e> czr you have been helpful just earler...
[01:48] <bob2> that's not valid C++
[01:48] <kid> [ Seveas ] : kid, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop may help <-- it's adding stuff like.. openoffice, I don't want that -- as I learned from my past expierences, this laptop is 6 years old -- I just want to.. "startx" :D (which I don't seem to be able to do at this point)
[01:49] <dooglus> czr: I spelled david_m_e wrong.  like "czr"
[01:49] <czr> I don't support C++, it's evil and convoluted :-)
[01:49] <bob2> kid: upgrading without ubuntu-desktop is something you have to work through yourself
[01:49] <bob2> kid: ie look at the new things ubuntu-desktop installs in hoary (and breezy) and install the bits you want
[01:49] <david_m_e> czr are you accusing bill of creating c++ ?
[01:49] <SCMark> is there any way to capture a realvideo stream?
[01:49] <kid> How "hard" would it be? as to get X running, how many files will I have to look through and on so?
[01:49] <czr> besides, even I need sleep now and then, so I bid you all a fine evening here
[01:49] <bob2> SCMark: mplayer
[01:50] <kid> Ahh.. alright, I'll try that.. thanks
[01:50] <aghaster> #include <iostream> int main() { std::cout << "Hello World!" << std::endl; return 0; }
[01:50] <aghaster> is valid C++
[01:50] <bob2> kid: not very if you're experienced with ubuntu/debian, kind hard otherwise
[01:50] <SCMark> bob2: there is an option to capture it?
[01:50] <bob2> aghaster: do the args to main() match the prototype?
[01:50] <bob2> SCMark: -streamdump or -dumpstream
[01:50] <mpm2> bob2 I tried the noapic and acpi off options you suggested earlier, it looks like I got a slightly different version of a card that is listed as supported.... it's not being recognized
[01:50] <aghaster> hum?
[01:50] <chaumurky> kid: if you install a lightweight WM like xfce it's less bloaty and it'll pull in all the X stuff. I good place to work fom
[01:50] <navarone> bob2 couldn't kid do server install and gimply install gdm and update manager after?
[01:51] <aghaster> no need to use main() args until you want to take care of command line arguments
[01:51] <chaumurky> kid: eg sudo apt-get install xfce4     that should do it
[01:51] <bob2> main() is special-cased for that?
[01:51] <kid> bob2: I'm not at all.. first time trying Linux -- but I should be able to simply apt-get the things listed I see now (of course, given that I select a few) as I did the ubuntu-desktop, right?
[01:51] <bob2> navarone: sure, but that involves a reinstall
[01:51] <barba> hello people: I'm about to install zope+plone on an ubuntu 5.10, but I read plone 2.1 needs zope 2.8.2 while ubuntu debian package is 2.8.1-5 release. How to fix it without installing zope from source? thnx
[01:51] <navarone> bob2> aahh...thought that was the case
[01:51] <bob2> kid: if you're careful, yes
[01:51] <bob2> barba: just install the ubuntu plone package
[01:52] <bob2> !+info plone breezy
[01:52] <kid> chaumurky: Yep, I learned that one thoroughly, as I put GNOME on a 6 year old laptop. I'm actually shooting for fluxbox this time, hoping everything goes nicely
[01:52] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[01:52] <ubotu> plone: (content management system based on zope and cmf), section web, is optional. Version: 2.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[01:52] <Seveas> bob2, ld is sort-of smart when it comes to main()
[01:52] <chaumurky> bob2: would apt-get install gnome be leaner?
[01:52] <bob2> chaumurky: than ubuntu-desktop? yes.
[01:52] <Seveas> or actually, it's dl.so being smart
[01:52] <chaumurky> maybe that's the best option for kid
[01:52] <bob2> surely the compiler is in charge of enforcing prototypes?
[01:52] <ThePyromaniac> this will sound bloody stupid but how do i find my network IP on ubuntu? i know the dos versions...
[01:53] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: ip a, ifconfig
[01:53] <kid> Yep, I'll try that.. as much as to get X running first of all. thanks for the time guys -- and wish me luck
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> ahh thanks bob2
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> google woulnt tell me :D
[01:53] <bob2> everyone should learn ip
[01:53] <bob2> if only so they stop using interface aliases
[01:53] <merly> if system -> disks can read my partitions correctly, can you tell me how to make cfdisk read them correctly?
[01:53] <chaumurky> kid: if you sudo apt-get install fluxbox that'll pull X in as well...
[01:54] <kid> chaumurky: Tried that many times, that doesn't work
[01:54] <bob2> merly: you'd need to elaborate on how cfdisk is failing to do that at the moment
[01:54] <chaumurky> oh, ok
[01:54] <chaumurky> must admit - didn't try that myself
[01:54] <kid> I mean, I'm getting "~bash: startx: command not found"
[01:54] <bob2> kid: apt-cache show x-window-system-core
[01:54] <merly> bob2 - cfdisk says "fatal error cannot open disk drive"
[01:54] <bob2> you need to make sure you don't get silly about removing things
[01:55] <bob2> and only remove things you understand
[01:55] <kid> I wish to ask out of curiousity -- apt-cahce? how is that disparate from apt-get?
[01:55] <merly> bob2- i'm currently using the live cd on that computer, i haven't been able install successfully.
[01:55] <bob2> apt-cache displays various data from apt's package database cache
[01:55] <bob2> merly: what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever' say?
[01:55] <bob2> apt-get tells apt to install/remove things
[01:56] <merly> bob2 - /dev/hda1 , star by boot, start 1, end 9294, blocks 74654023+, id 7, system HPFS / NTFS
[01:56] <St^Anger^19m> http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=packages.....guys...should the linux world conside somethig of the sort...IMHO it's a gd idea
[01:56] <St^Anger^19m> ?
[01:57] <bob2> merly: and 'sudo cfdisk /dev/whatever'?
[01:57] <coag> czr: hey
[01:57] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: no, it's stupid
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: why?
[01:57] <inthane> Anybody interested in helping a n00b out in configuring WPA-PSK?
[01:57] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: why bother putting things in seperate directories?
[01:57] <coag> czr: it works now, i get picture, but there are these three fuzzy lines through it
[01:57] <St^Anger^19m> i tried it out and found it amazing
[01:58] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: dpkg knows where everything is, it's trivial to remove files when you don't need them anymore
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: makes more logical sense
[01:58] <coag> czr: and it only goes up to 640 480
[01:58] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: no it doesn't
[01:58] <inthane> Tried the howto, and it's not working.
[01:58] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: I don't care what "application" provides 'ls'
[01:58] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: I just care that it's in /bin
[01:58] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: not OS specific apps
[01:58] <merly> bob2: hrmm. it comes up... it looks right from here... I think it's wrong
[01:59] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: just something similar to "Program Files"
[01:59] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: why does it matter?
[01:59] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: easier to the user imo
[01:59] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: again, what is the point?  do you really think /ProgramFiles/OpenOffice2/bin/OpenOffice2 is simpler than /usr/bin/oofice2
[01:59] <merly> bob2 - it's got partition hda1, size 76445 MB
[02:00] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: in what situation is a clueless user usign a path to an executable? as opposed to selecting it from a menu.
[02:00] <bob2> merly: ok...
[02:00] <Zugwrack> Anyone here know if there are mac utilities like fsck that I can run to check and fix my primary mac partition? I boot to a second disk for Ubuntu..
[02:00] <jonmasters> someone tried that in some pointless distro which used pretty names. How pointless :-)
[02:00] <St^Anger^19m> but each software is encapsulated
[02:00] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: if you really care, I can write yo uthe 3 line shell script that makes /usr/PACKAGENAME/ and puts all the files in there
[02:00] <St^Anger^19m> its on its own
[02:00] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: so what?
[02:01] <Trashcan> bob2: you know an easy way to free dpkg's lock after it crashes?
[02:01] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: it doesn't need to be encapsulated, this isn't some half-arsed system like windows.  every single file from a package is accounted for and can be removed with one command.
[02:01] <merly> bob2 - - i think you fixed it/ :v)
[02:01] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: u may be experience in linux usage...but as a newbie, i found it to be more logical
[02:01] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: in what situations do you see the paths at all?
[02:01] <St^Anger^19m> PC-BSD isnt windows :S
[02:01] <bob2> Trashcan: dpkg crashed?
[02:01] <Trashcan> bob2: segfaulted installing a local package
[02:01] <bob2> PC-BSD seems to be some lame freebsd fork
[02:02] <pete__> is dapper coming after breezy?
[02:02] <bob2> pete__: yes
[02:02] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: PBI is not only about directory name
[02:02] <St^Anger^19m> its about the Installer too
[02:02] <pete__> is their an eta on dapper?
[02:02] <bob2> Trashcan: check "dmesg"
[02:02] <bob2> Trashcan: also, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lok
[02:02] <bob2> pete__: ubuntu comes out every 6 onths
[02:02] <yaaar> word
[02:02] <yaaar> is there a package for firefox 1.5 yet? or anybody know when there's likely to be?
[02:02] <Trashcan> sweet, thanks bob2
[02:03] <Trashcan> what am i looking for in dmesg?
[02:03] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: that's also silly; ubuntu and debian have a package installer that works for 12 000 packages already.
[02:03] <pete__> yaar yes, there is on the forums.
[02:03] <david_m_e> dooglas: the difference between ur prog and mine was the newline \n in yours and a /n in mine; amazing that that made the error it did
[02:03] <Trashcan> besides [4395483.757000]  kernel BUG at <bad filename>:21387! :p
[02:03] <bob2> Trashcan: kernel oops, disk error...I always get suspicous when things like dpkg segfault ;)
[02:03] <bob2> hah
[02:03] <bob2> dpkg wins again
[02:03] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: its not what works alone that is important..its HOW it works...
[02:03] <Trashcan> hehe
[02:03] <dooglus> david_m_e: say it's not so!
[02:03] <merly> how do i know how big to make my new partitions?
[02:03] <pete__> yaar,
[02:03] <XsXs> i have my volume turned up all the way on the volume control in ubuntu and also in xmms. are there other sound settings? mine aint playin too loud
[02:03] <pete__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99004&highlight=firefox+1.5
[02:03] <St^Anger^19m> now i found apt-get to be superior to any other package system
[02:03] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: in what way do you find package installation on PC-BSD easier than on ubuntu?
[02:03] <dooglus> david_m_e: printf("hello/n") shouldn't be a problem!
[02:03] <St^Anger^19m> but this PBI is worth a look
[02:03] <XsXs> got it turned up on the controller too
[02:04] <david_m_e> now i remember why i hate c++ so much: the error message doesn't seem to be related to the actual coding mistake
[02:04] <pete__> XSXS done alsamixer ?
[02:04] <XsXs> no i havent
[02:04] <david_m_e> dooglus i know
[02:04] <dooglus> david_m_e: what was your program?
[02:04] <dooglus> david_m_e: can you show it here?
[02:04] <pete__> try alsa mixer.
[02:04] <XsXs> never heard of it
[02:04] <XsXs> im new ;)
[02:04] <XsXs> i will look though
[02:04] <pete__> alsamixer*
[02:04] <XsXs> thanks
[02:04] <cyphase> what's the best way to take high resolution photos and orint them on 4X6 photo paper?
[02:04] <cyphase> print*
[02:04] <cyphase> in ubuntu
[02:04] <david_m_e> dooglus, the only dif 'tween urs and mine was the $ inside the printf ""
[02:05] <Seveas> david_m_e, whya re you uning printf in c++
[02:05] <Seveas> ?
[02:05] <david_m_e> seveas i was only trying to determine if all of the pieces of the dev system were in place and working properly
[02:05] <dooglus> david_m_e: '$'?
[02:05] <david_m_e> hence, a tiny test program
[02:05] <sambagirl> this is to heavy for humanbeings
[02:06] <david_m_e> $ = string
[02:06] <St^Anger^19m> i'm a newbie...but i get the impression there's some kind of war between linux ppl and bsd ppl :( sorry for bringing the topic up
[02:06] <dooglus> ooh.  :)  you remind me of my old Sinclair ZX Spectrum :)
[02:06] <david_m_e> sorry, $ is a BASIC reference
[02:06] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, anyone use and happy with a bittorrent client?
[02:06] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: no, there's no war
[02:06] <sambagirl> no the war is between gnome and kde or something like that.
[02:06] <david_m_e> don't get me going dooglus
[02:06] <psycode> sure there is a war :)
[02:06] <dooglus> david_m_e: what was your string then?
[02:07] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: some of the netbsd, openbsd and freebsd are extraordinarily smart and great coders, and they produce very nice operating systems
[02:07] <Seveas> psycode, but not in here
[02:07] <david_m_e> "this is a test/n"
[02:07] <psycode> Seveas, oh ofcourse not...
[02:07] <St^Anger^19m> pc-bsd is based on free-bsd
[02:07] <bob2> yes
[02:07] <St^Anger^19m> or so i read
[02:07] <St^Anger^19m> i have no idea wot "based on" means :)
[02:07] <david_m_e> but notice the FORE slash, not a backslash: that makes it a formatting char, which should not have generated the error that it did; don't have a clue
[02:08] <dooglus> david_m_e: I can't reproduce your error by changing the \ to a /
[02:08] <ThePyromaniac> anyone using Azureus? cant get it to download or doanything. NAT ERROR
[02:08] <bob2> where did david_m_e put his code up?
[02:08] <St^Anger^19m> i love KDE looks, Gnome feels more complete though....so wot shall i do?
[02:08] <Kyral> Use Fluxbox ;P
[02:08] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: I use azureus.  it crashes sometimes, uses far too much RAM, but it otherwise OK.
[02:08] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, install both?
[02:08] <chaumurky> xfce4
[02:09] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: use whatever you want
[02:09] <St^Anger^19m> Fluxbox is weird :S
[02:09] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, twm
[02:09] <bob2> all newbies seem to go through some obsessive fanboy/girl stage
[02:09] <Seveas> bob2, :)
[02:09] <ThePyromaniac> dooglus did you have to do anything to your firewall or router to allow it?
[02:09] <david_m_e> dooglus bob2 i'm not surprised ... c++ programming always reminded me of those scientists who make claims that can' be duplicated by credible researchers
[02:09] <St^Anger^19m> twm?
[02:09] <bob2> hah
[02:09] <bob2> I'm very glad to be using python instead of c++ right now
[02:09] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: it works without any router/firewall config, but you get better transfer rates if you forward the bittorrent port on your router.  the default is 6881, but it's a good idea to pick your own and forward that.  some ISPs block port 6881
[02:10] <squire> Fluxbox? Well DSL is superb
[02:10] <chaumurky> St^Anger^19m: have a look at http://www.xfce.org/ - another consideration
[02:10] <squire> :)
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> Im usng DSL on my old laptop even now.
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> well its being used by the kids. :P
[02:10] <squire> :P
[02:10] <St^Anger^19m> xfce looks ok
[02:10] <St^Anger^19m> but its not as nice as KDE
[02:10] <St^Anger^19m> :)
[02:10] <ThePyromaniac> dooglus right well i installed and ran, i got some torrents that are already halfway through downloading via my windows BitTorrent client. they are on 78.1% of whatever. it takes 1 month checking then does nothing
[02:10] <St^Anger^19m> wots it TWM?
[02:11] <ThePyromaniac> i added 6881 - 6889 to firestarter and router
[02:11] <squire> KDE is nice
[02:11] <david_m_e> not that i'm down on c++; it appears to me to be a pretty clear case of the language being a jet and i'm a biplane pilot
[02:11] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: it should only check the partial download once.
[02:11] <ThePyromaniac> i dont know what else to do as i wan following a guide
[02:11] <chaumurky> it's a balance between gnome and KDE - kde makes my teeth hurt...
[02:11] <bob2> c++ is kinda a superset of all other languages
[02:11] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: (and then again after every crash (!))
[02:11] <St^Anger^19m> AND kde and gnome fills u with apps u dont need
[02:11] <bob2> which gives people several thousand ways to hang themselves
[02:11] <phantomcircuit-a> and you
[02:11] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: that's not the case
[02:11] <merly> ok bob2 trouble again.
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> i have kwifimanager running... says Im connected, giving a nice signal strength... in System/Administration/Networking atho is activated and running... however, I go to open a browser or other net app and I get no connection.. what's up?
[02:11] <bob2> some people seem to try to use as much of the C++ standard in each app as they an, too
[02:12] <St^Anger^19m> why not have a GUI and let the user decide wot to install?
[02:12] <chaumurky> kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop has far more apps than just KDE or Gnome
[02:12] <squire> all OSs have apps that u don't need
[02:12] <St^Anger^19m> squire: then all OS's suck in that regard
[02:12] <ThePyromaniac> dooglus well right now its just sat ere and i got no ideas how to make the percentage bars move, heh
[02:12] <Kyral> Those packages are actually the standard installs for Ubuntu and Kubuntu respectively
[02:12] <chaumurky> yeah, PC's suck...
[02:12] <merly> bob2 i used gparted, changed /dev/hda1 size 72GB to 50GB. and it said no problem. but then i typed cfdisk /dev/hda fatal error; cfdisk /dev/hda1 Bad primary partition 0 Partition begins after end-of-disk
[02:12] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: you seem to be confused, that is precisely how it works
[02:13] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: try it on a widely available torrent, like the ubuntu ones
[02:13] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: I AM :)
[02:13] <squire> PC architecture is a bag of spanners
[02:13] <ThePyromaniac> dooglus ok
[02:13] <bob2> merly: cfdisk may not work until you reboot
[02:13] <merly> bob2. ok. rebooting
[02:13] <bob2> merly: poking the partition table at runtime can confuse things
[02:13] <chaumurky> squire: nice analogy
[02:13] <bob2> tho it should do some magic IOCTL or something so it's ok
[02:14] <brendan__> hi, are updates between ubuntu releases usually smooth?
[02:14] <merly> while i'm waiting. it's sort of ironic - i bought the little 64 bit to replace this laptop. and now i'm using this one for support for that one.
[02:14] <merly> !
[02:14] <Kyral> brendan__: Usually lol
[02:14] <ubotu> merly: Are you on ritalin?
[02:14] <brendan__> or does it usually require a reinstall
[02:14] <brennrj> was for me
[02:14] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: http://www.portforward.com/help/portforwarding.htm will tell you how to forward the port on your router if you need help with that
[02:14] <Kyral> brendan__: 90% of the time it goes with minimal breakage
[02:14] <bob2> brendan__: yes
[02:14] <kid> on apt-get, I'm getting lots of 4.03 -- I have a 5.04 disc.. and warty on the laptop - should I (and how could I) have the apt-get concern itself with the disc inserted in only
[02:14] <bob2> brendan__: no reinstall, usually works
[02:15] <bob2> kid: by editig /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:15] <brendan__> Kyral: the 10% of the time when something breaks, what is it?
[02:15] <St^Anger^19m> have u ppl tried XPDE?
[02:15] <brendan__> i mean, what kinds of things break
[02:15] <brennrj> brendan__: went from 4.10 to warty to breezy on my T30 no problems
[02:15] <merly> bob2 - i inserted the install disk on reboot. i hope that's o.k.
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> i have kwifimanager running... says Im connected, giving a nice signal strength... in System/Administration/Networking atho is activated and running... however, I go to open a browser or other net app and I get no connection.. what's up?
[02:15] <frogzoo> St^Anger^19m: k, Il bite - whats XPDE?
[02:15] <Kyral> brendan__: I think the biggest one was the Accelerated GFX modules
[02:16] <brendan__> oh ok
[02:16] <brendan__> thats no big deal
[02:16] <Kyral> brendan__: But I wouldn't knoe
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> anybody use konversation over X-chat? which do you like beset ?
[02:16] <St^Anger^19m> http://www.xpde.com/
[02:16] <St^Anger^19m> a win-like DE
[02:16] <Kyral> brendan__: I'm one of the crazy SOBs that goes and tests the Devel release :P
[02:16] <merly> st anger did you try xubuntu of xfce?
[02:16] <brendan__> Kyral: oh,
[02:17] <St^Anger^19m> xubunut is ubuntu on xfce?
[02:17] <merly> of=or
[02:17] <merly> st yes
[02:17] <merly> st - a server install
[02:17] <St^Anger^19m> no i never tried
[02:17] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: yes
[02:17] <Kyral> St^Anger^19m: Its Ubunut with XFCE as default
[02:17] <merly> st - i just installed it on my p3 700
[02:17] <St^Anger^19m> i've seen XFCE screenies
[02:17] <merly> and it pWns winxp hee hee
[02:17] <merly> much fasta
[02:17] <qt2> err, i've got a strange rrror when trying to install nvidia-glx by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia:  Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is installed correctly.
[02:18] <St^Anger^19m> is it normal to find WINXP gui faster than KDE?
[02:18] <qt2> i've got xorg-core installed, so i dont know what the problem is... o.O;
[02:18] <psycode> St^Anger^19m, yes
[02:18] <St^Anger^19m> :(
[02:18] <psycode> St^Anger^19m, have you tried gnome?
[02:18] <St^Anger^19m> yes
[02:18] <St^Anger^19m> even gnome seem slower
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> am I on ignore or what??
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[02:18] <intelikey> St^Anger^19m for some things xp is faster yes
[02:18] <merly> bob2 - on reboot, in cfdisk or whatever the insall utility is - - it just sees hda1 as 76.4 GB
[02:19] <merly> bob2 but thats what i thought i just resized
[02:19] <bob2> merly: is that incorrect?
[02:19] <bob2> ok
[02:19] <St^Anger^19m> but i want linux :)
[02:19] <merly> bob2 i changed it to 50
[02:19] <merly> mebbe i could try it in here?
[02:20] <Sysace> guys.. I just installed the ATI Proprietary drivers from the ati website, toshiba laptop (P4 3GHz, 512MB), Ati Mobility Radeon 9000.  Before the ati drivers I was getting 640fps from glxgears, now I'm getting 150fps.. can anybody please help or advise?
[02:20] <qt2> anyone have any idea why it's looking for the old XF86 config instead of the xorg.conf? :o
[02:20] <bcl> Sysace, go back to the other driver :) the same thing happened with my desktop.
[02:20] <brennrj> anyone seen problems booting 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp or 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp? ie: Unable to handle kernel
[02:20] <brennrj> paging request at virtual address nnnnnnnn
[02:20] <merly> bob2 i am trying to resize the hda1 partition using cfdisk or whatever the installation utility is. But, it doesn't display on my screen correctly until i get it all the way installed - th ebottom of the display is sqished up on the top - - like it's out of sync.
[02:20] <Sysace> bcl:  anything I can do to get better frame rates otherwise?
[02:20] <Ratty_> hi, how do i make automount mount as read/write, at the moment it mounts everything as readonly making it compeltely useless
[02:21] <bcl> Sysace, I haven't bothered to even try.
[02:21] <St^Anger^19m> http://www.xpde.com/shots/startmenu.png -> this would be cool on Ubuntu
[02:21] <merly> bob2 - so i can't tell what it says, don't know how to change it.
[02:21] <qt2> well... nevermind... seems to have been fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling xorg. :E
[02:22] <MikhailT> St^Anger^19m: why not just use Windows instead
[02:22] <St^Anger^19m> coz i want linux underneath
[02:22] <St^Anger^19m> its just the Windows GUI which i find good
[02:22] <St^Anger^19m> not the price ;)
[02:22] <MikhailT> :P
[02:23] <brennrj> merly: this is with the text mode installer?
[02:23] <bcl> St^Anger^19m, I think there are XP themes for Gnome. Never tried them myself though.
[02:23] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, xpde is pure crap - it's a half implemented sort-of de that is not even supported by its creator
[02:23] <arndtl> Moin erstmal
[02:23] <Seveas> !de
[02:23] <ubotu> I guess de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:23] <Ratty_> is there no way to make an external drive read/write in ubuntu?
[02:23] <merly> bob2, it won't let me resize here either. i type in 50gb, hit enter for continue, but it comes back and it still says 76GB
[02:23] <MikhailT> the only thing i want from windows is the goddamn drivers to be on linux :|
[02:23] <St^Anger^19m> Seveas: but the idea is good in a way
[02:24] <_Gray_> Ratty_: yes there is but it cant be ntfs
[02:24] <Ratty_> it's not
[02:24] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, grab yourself an xp-like theme for gnome/kde and you're done too
[02:24] <Ratty_> it's just a usb mem stick, fat32 i guess
[02:24] <Ratty_> it automounts when i plug it in but the filesystem is read only
[02:24] <_Gray_> Ratty_: then yes you can mount it
[02:24] <St^Anger^19m> can u suggest one for gnome?
[02:24] <kid> something wrong with security.ubuntu.com? my connection seems to keep failing as I'm trying to apt-get install x-window-system-core
[02:24] <Ratty_> i knowi  can mount it
[02:24] <Ratty_> i want to write to it though
[02:24] <dooglus> Ratty_: you're the 3rd person I've seen with this problem in the last few hours
[02:24] <_Gray_> past the output of cat /etc/fstab
[02:24] <_Gray_> paste*
[02:24] <rosen> mm ... I'm trying to install checkGmail using the guide on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60418 ... but I get an error while running one of the commands (I have no idea what I'm doing)
[02:24] <dooglus> _Gray_: it's automounted
[02:24] <Ratty_> it's not in fstab, it's automount
[02:25] <rosen> this is the command that's giving me issues
[02:25] <rosen> sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'
[02:25] <_Gray_> Ratty_: oh yeah
[02:25] <oudeis> hi. does anyone know how can i track cd orders from shipit? it says cds shipped a while ago(almost 2 months), but that's it
[02:25] <dooglus> rosen: fast forward to the last but one post.
[02:25] <Ratty_> did any of the previous people that asked get an answer?
[02:25] <_Gray_> oudeis: it took me like 3 months to get mine
[02:25] <dooglus> rosen: some guy posted a much better way of installing it
[02:25] <dooglus> rosen: I forget his name.
[02:25] <oudeis> _Gray_: thanks
[02:25] <Seveas> rosen, ewwwww
[02:26] <Seveas> rosen, apt-get install libxml-simple-perl
[02:26] <rosen> dooglus, ah ok thanks
[02:26] <Seveas> rosen, don't use cpan for installing perl modules, apt-get does it for you
[02:26] <trigg3r> hi everyone
[02:26] <techrush> hi
[02:26] <Ratty_> hmz
[02:26] <brennrj> hi
[02:26] <dooglus> rosen: this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=c73b49ec65b87bdace74cc69b0952670&p=372215&postcount=106
[02:26] <rosen> Seveas, I just installed linux today and am totally blank about what I'm doing ... I need default answers to guide me through this ;)
[02:26] <Ratty_> guess not
[02:27] <zen> Any idea why Kopete might not be able to make a tray icon? (no icon, crashes on close-box minimize)
[02:27] <bob2> merly: resizability depends on a lot of factors
[02:27] <MikhailT> does anybody ever get ati x800xl to work with ubuntu 5.10 on nforce 4 boards?
[02:27] <Ratty_> maybe in 2 years linux will be read for the desktop
[02:27] <MikhailT> fat chances
[02:27] <dooglus> Ratty_: I don't think they did, no.  But we've got bob2 and Seveas now, so maybe they can help...
[02:27] <MikhailT> Ratty_, more like 20 years
[02:27] <halibut> FF1.5 gmail, and no greasemonkey? http://rivex.no-ip.org/gmskins.xpi  thanks for testing =)
[02:27] <merly> bob2 - i have almost no data on it. in windows disk manager, it says the partition is 71 GB (instead of 76). is that normal?
[02:27] <zen> MikhailT, As in display or 3D?
[02:27] <MikhailT> display, dont care much for 3d
[02:27] <bob2> Ratty_: please don't be stupid
[02:28] <dooglus> Ratty_: is the device mounted 'rw', but trying to write it tells you 'read-only filesystem'?
[02:28] <Ratty_> it seems all the problems will linux on the desktop are small things, but they never get fixed
[02:28] <MikhailT> merly yea its normal
[02:28] <trigg3r> hi all...i need a little info please..is there a way to keep windows network shares from appearing on the desktop? they're in the "places" menu anyway, so i want them off the desktop..
[02:28] <bob2> Ratty_: also, fat32 should be mountred rw; if not, it's a bug, please report it
[02:28] <intelikey> Ratty_  hmmm we been using linux on desktops for several years already,   what problem you having?
[02:28] <CaptainMorgan> i have kwifimanager running... says Im connected, giving a nice signal strength... in System/Administration/Networking atho is activated and running... however, I go to open a browser or other net app and I get no connection.. what's up?
[02:28] <bob2> Ratty_: more likely it's HFS+ or NTFS, though
[02:28] <Ratty_> intelikey: it doesn't automount memsticks are readwrite
[02:28] <zen> MikhailT, My X800XTPE works fine, but I had to download the xorg rpm, alien it, and dpkg it then run fglrxconfig to get video from the x server
[02:28] <Ratty_> bob2: it's fat32
[02:28] <dooglus> bob2: the last 2 guys with this problem had vfat devices mounted 'rw', but saw 'readonly filesystem' errors.
[02:28] <bob2> Ratty_: show us the output from 'mount'
[02:28] <zen> MikhailT, for my friend's X600SE
[02:28] <dooglus> Ratty_: "mount | grep -i fat"
[02:29] <Ratty_> /home/ratty/public_html/work/realbuzz.com/newblog
[02:29] <bob2> right, which is the card being fucked, and not fixable in software
[02:29] <Ratty_> oops
[02:29] <Ratty_> /dev/sdc1 on /media/RAT'S MP3S type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:29] <intelikey> Ratty_ mounts are controlled in fstab    man fstab
[02:29] <brennrj> anyone seen problems booting 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp or 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp? worked fine on a gentoo 2.6.10 build
[02:29] <Ratty_> automount isn't
[02:29] <bob2> intelikey: that is not the case
[02:29] <rosen> dooglus, so what about the stuff I allready did ? ... should I just forget about that and hope nothing conflicts or ?
[02:29] <andrew_> Im having an odd reccurring issue with gnome
[02:29] <zen> as a side note, which FS type gives best general performance?
[02:29] <Ratty_> kind of a bitch if i have to modify fstab every time i stick a memstick in
[02:29] <zen> I chose Reiser
[02:29] <bob2> brennrj: you need to provide a lot more detail
[02:29] <tracer> Is there an online tutorial for newbies, if so, what's the url?
[02:29] <Ratty_> windows just mounts it and i'm away
[02:29] <andrew_> Every now and then my mouse starts drifting upwards, and my keyboard stops responding
[02:29] <Seveas> Ratty_, memsticks should NOT be in fstab
[02:29] <bob2> tracer: tutorial for what?
[02:29] <merly> bob2- this all started with some troublesome Phoenix recovery software. :v) it is still on the disk I think.
[02:29] <dooglus> rosen: try it.  should be OK I think
[02:30] <MikhailT> i guess i'll just continue to use ubuntu via vmware til ati releases a stable ubuntu package
[02:30] <andrew_> Restarting gnome fixes the problem
[02:30] <bob2> Ratty_: show us the last 10 lines of 'dmesg' in #flood
[02:30] <arndtl> #ubuntu.de
[02:30] <rosen> dooglus, cool I will .. thanks alot
[02:30] <andrew_> Anyone got any guesses about the cause of that?
[02:30] <brennrj> bob2: messages like this on console at boot: http://linux-setup.news-view.co.uk/topic-5470.html
[02:30] <red_fox> how do I start a service, like ssh?
[02:30] <trigg3r> any takers please? ...is there a way to keep windows network shares from appearing on the desktop? they're in the "places" menu anyway, so i want them off the desktop..
[02:30] <brennrj> ( thats not me )
[02:30] <Seveas> red_fox, invoke-rc.d ssh stary
[02:30] <bob2> red_fox: it's already started
[02:30] <zen> MikhailT, ATI's drivers have always sucked.  You might be waiting a few years.
[02:30] <Seveas> start even*
[02:30] <tracer> linux
[02:30] <red_fox> bob2, not for me ;-)
[02:30] <MikhailT> zen, well thats true but look at the last 5 months of linux releases from ati compared to the last 5 years
[02:30] <red_fox> Seveas, thanks
[02:31] <Seveas> red_fox, the ssh server is not installed by default
[02:31] <zen> MikhailT, I'll give you that.  They've improved massively.
[02:31] <bob2> brennrj: that person will not get help unless they can replicate the issue without the nvidia driver
[02:31] <bob2> red_fox: it runs when it is installed (openssh-server)
[02:31] <red_fox> Seveas, yeah I think my friend already apt-got it
[02:31] <Seveas> red_fox, then it will be started already
[02:31] <intelikey> Seveas granted i am not using ub but why would memsticks not mount via fstab ?
[02:32] <red_fox> bob2, Seveas, yeah you guys are right, thanks
[02:32] <Seveas> intelikey, no
[02:32] <MikhailT> zen, yea i just hope they continue like that and maybe just maybe, it'll be ready for one simple apt-get installl command within a year
[02:32] <Ratty_> bob2: any idea why it decided to mount read only?
[02:32] <bob2> intelikey: because yo ucan't guess what device name they will have in advane?
[02:32] <Seveas> udev/hotplug/hal do that for you
[02:32] <zen> MikhailT, I look forward to when ATI's drivers work on AMD64 w/ 3D
[02:32] <dooglus> Ratty_: what do you see if you try to:       touch "/media/RAT'S MP3S/myfile.txt"
[02:32] <intelikey> bob2 hmmmm  k
[02:32] <Ratty_> touch: cannot touch `/media/RAT\'S MP3S/myfile.txt': Read-only file system
[02:32] <bob2> Ratty_: uh, because the filesystem is corrupt?
[02:32] <Seveas> ah I overlooked the *why* :)
[02:32] <Ratty_> it's not corrupt on a windows machine
[02:32] <zen> MikhailT, But to be honest, nVidia isn't much better.  Their performance is a lot better but installing them is a bitch
[02:32] <Ratty_> or a mac
[02:32] <dooglus> bob2: any idea?  it's mounted 'rw', yet is a 'read-only file system'.  he's the 3rd this evening.
[02:33] <bob2> Ratty_: run chkdsk on it or something
[02:33] <intelikey> Seveas np
[02:33] <bob2> Ratty_: if you've found a bug in the linux vfat driver, report it
[02:33] <bob2> I think that's fairly unlikely, though
[02:33] <bob2> Ratty_: this is breezy, right?
[02:33] <Ratty_> 5.10
[02:33] <bob2> Ratty_: what does 'uname -r' print?
[02:33] <brennrj> bob2: I get similar messages, but I'm not running the nvidia driver ( Unable to handle kernel
[02:33] <brennrj> paging request... ) Is there a way I can capture that console on my system?
[02:33] <Ratty_> install but 2 days ago
[02:33] <Ratty_> 2.6.12-10-386
[02:33] <MikhailT> zen, i would say nvidia is still better at default boot, i never had a lot of hassles trying to install OS on nvidia cards whereas on ATI, it just freaks out and a lot of stuff has to be done via commands to get it to boot
[02:34] <bob2> dooglus: the mount options are not updated when the filesystem driver panics, it seems
[02:34] <bob2> which is a bit surprisig
[02:34] <bob2> brennrj: sure your ram is ok?
[02:34] <acetech> !kernel
[02:34] <CaptainMorgan> yo! fellow linux lover in need of assistance..
[02:34] <dooglus> bob2: so it was mounted rw, then something went wrong, the fs driver switched to rw to protect the device?
[02:34] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: there's no need to try to sell yourself
[02:34] <brennrj> bob2: never had problems running gentoo... will the memcheck find it if it is bad?
[02:34] <bob2> CaptainMorgan: apparently no one uses/cares about kwifimanager; perhaps try their channel or #kubuntu
[02:35] <bob2> or the mailing list, etc
[02:35] <bob2> brennrj: memtest86 will, yes
[02:35] <Ratty_> invalid cluster chain
[02:35] <bob2> dooglus: yup
[02:35] <Ratty_> hmm
[02:35] <bob2> Ratty_: from chkdsk?
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> bob - thanks, there is no channel for kwifi.. checked
[02:35] <Ratty_> nah from dmsg
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> kubuntu ?
[02:35] <acetech> anyone know how i can find a walkthrough on recompiling a ubuntu kernel?
[02:35] <brennrj> bob2: ok - I guess I'll let that run overnight
[02:35] <bimberi> trigg3r: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, apps -> nautilus -> desktop, uncheck "volumes_visible"
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> Ill give it a sot, thanks
[02:35] <dooglus> bob2: odd that 3 different people here are all having the same problem though, isn't it?
[02:35] <Ratty_> there no fat chkdsk in linux?
[02:35] <Seveas> trigg3r, gconf-editor, look in /apps/nautilus/desktop
[02:35] <bob2> yes, that's the driver saying the filesystem is broken
[02:35] <brennrj> bob2: thanks - youre a multitasking maniac... :)
[02:35] <_Gray_> trigg3r: mount them somewhere other than /media
[02:35] <bob2> dooglus: yes...hence why I asked his/her kernel version, I thought perhaps dapper had just got a bug like that
[02:36] <bob2> brennrj: np
[02:36] <Ratty_> i shall reboot to windoze and see
[02:36] <zen> MikhailT, I had to install quite a few packages on my friend's machine to get the nVidia installer to run, set some temp vars, and recompile the driver every time his computer boots...which is about twice a month, granted.
[02:36] <Ratty_> brb
[02:36] <david_m_e> rosen i've not been at my desk for about 5 minutes; did u get the new-to-linux info u needed?
[02:36] <Seveas> dooglus, fat breaking is often the result of not unmounting before pulling the stick out
[02:36] <St^Anger^19m> Win Vista GUI seems to be copying a lot from OS X TIger
[02:36] <zen> MikhailT, I just look forward to the day when -all- drivers install a lot easier and more reliably
[02:36] <intelikey> Ratty_ fsck.vfat
[02:36] <Seveas> and no, windows does not detect that until you run chkdsk - talk about broken....
[02:36] <acetech> anyone know how i can find a walkthrough on recompiling a ubuntu kernel?
[02:36] <bob2> acetech: why do you want to recompile it?
[02:36] <Seveas> acetech, search for kernel on the wiki
[02:36] <_Gray_> acetech: ubuntu forums
[02:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> I always thought it was Windows "Mist-uh", because it's really vaporware
[02:37] <MikhailT> St^Anger^19m, Vista's GUI is one ugly interface, there is no consistency anywhere. I still think OS X got the best interface anywhere on the planet
[02:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell acetech about kernelcompile
[02:37] <acetech> bob2, cause, i want to get rid of some of the uneeded
[02:37] <Seveas> _Gray_, eww, the last kernel guides I saw there sucked...
[02:37] <bob2> acetech: why?
[02:37] <bob2> acetech: it doesn't consume any ram [*] 
[02:37] <bob2> * not actually true
[02:37] <_Gray_> Seveas: oh
[02:37] <Seveas> Sneaky_Bastard, this is not a windows bashing channel...
[02:38] <rosen> david_m_e, yeah I got a link to help me out but one of the commands is yet again making trouble
[02:38] <david_m_e> Seveas i've a ? for you... when my ubuntu boots, it says something to the effect of <something> RAID devices... is that always part of ubuntu, or does ubuntu know something about my 'puter that i don't?
[02:38] <sethk> bob2, uses only a trival amount of ram is more accrate, I suppose
[02:38] <_Gray_> Just realised your a mod
[02:38] <MikhailT> zen, that'll be the day when linux is really ready for desktop, i cant believe ati nor nvidia isnt setting up a private package managment so that all the linux distro just need to include a simple command to get the latest drivers matching the kernal that the user is running from
[02:38] <rosen> when I try this cd /home/user/checkgmail-1.3 && mkdir Crypt && wget -O Crypt/Simple.pm http://search.cpan.org/src/KASEI/Crypt-Simple-0.06/Simple.pm it says 'no such file or archive'
[02:38] <St^Anger^19m> MikhailT: yes OS X is NEAT
[02:38] <Seveas> david_m_e, you can ignore these messages
[02:38] <dooglus> rosen: just a mo - I'll check
[02:38] <bob2> david_m_e: it checks on boot to see if you have software raid it should be dealing with
[02:38] <bob2> david_m_e: it does nothing if you don't have any
[02:38] <david_m_e> bob2 Seveas thanks
[02:39] <intelikey> how about becuse the ext2/3 drivers are not compiled in and i what them in the kernel so i don't need an initrd   :)
[02:39] <Ratty_> blegh windows
[02:39] <bob2> sethk: yeah...I gather modules can't share pages, so they always use 4KB at the end even if they don't need it all.
[02:39] <Seveas> rosen, why aren't you using a normal mailcient for gmail and a normail new-mail notifier?
[02:39] <sethk> intelikey, who cares?  the initrd is only used during startup
[02:39] <dooglus> rosen: "no such file or directory" you mean?
[02:39] <Seveas> instead of jumping through hoops you don't understand
[02:39] <_Gray_> anyone know if there is a dapper channel?
[02:39] <Seveas> _Gray_, this one
[02:40] <dooglus> rosen: could you copy/paste the exact error message?
[02:40] <dooglus> rosen: just the one line
[02:40] <intelikey> sethk i care because the initrd is too bloated to be used with loadlin  it's over 4m
[02:40] <trigg3r> Seveas: wow i definitely overlooked this area of /apps...thanks so much!
[02:40] <acetech> bimberi: i was using this howto u sent and this only shows how to setup a kernel from source but is not configurable... i want to go in and select the modules i want to install, etc.  like go into /usr/src/make config...etc
[02:40] <rosen> allright
[02:40] <rosen> cd /home/user/checkgmail-1.3 && mkdir Crypt && wget -O Crypt/Simple.pm http://search.cpan.org/src/KASEI/Crypt-Simple-0.06/Simple.pm
[02:40] <bob2> loadlin even works anymore?
[02:40] <seife> guys
[02:41] <bimberi> acetech: k
[02:41] <seife> ubuntu is not being friendly with me
[02:41] <Ratty_> hmm yeah, i think my drive is fucked
[02:41] <Seveas> acetech, then read a manual on how to do such a thing, that is not easily explained on irc
[02:41] <bob2> rosen: why aren't you using gmailfs from ubuntu?
[02:41] <seife> what do u guys think about novell suse linux?
[02:41] <_Gray_> Seveas: i got a ? can i install 2 instances of breezy then update one to dapper. is this possible if they are all on one hard drive. separate partitions of course
[02:41] <bob2> seife: you need to be a lot more specific
[02:41] <dooglus> bob2: gmailfs is a filesystem.  he wants a mail-checker
[02:41] <bob2> seife: #suse
[02:41] <Seveas> _Gray_, sure
[02:41] <rosen> bash: cd: /home/user/checkgmail-1.3: Ingen sdan fil eller filkatalog
[02:41] <acetech> seveas, that is what I am looking for
[02:41] <St^Anger^19m> is there a GUI way to recompile kernel?
[02:41] <bob2> dooglus: ugh, I'm blind, thanks
[02:41] <_Gray_> Seveas: can i share the swap between both as well?
[02:41] <intelikey> bob2 only with kernel/initrds less than 4m  unpacked
[02:41] <acetech> seveas, i am unable to find the howto on this
[02:41] <bcl> seife, ubuntu is better, as long as you stick with 5.04
[02:41] <Seveas> acetech, wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[02:41] <dooglus> rosen: you should use whatever path you extracted checkgmail to there instead of /home/user/...
[02:41] <Seveas> _Gray_, only if you don't use hibernate
[02:41] <rosen> bob2, I have no idea what that is ... I just one something that can automatically check for new mail so I dont have to worry about it
[02:42] <acetech> seveas, that does not show how to configure it
[02:42] <bob2> rosen: there appear to be several gmail checkers in ubuntu already
[02:42] <bob2> rosen: why not use one of them?
[02:42] <_Gray_> Seveas: oh cool im on desktop so it should be sweet
[02:42] <trigg3r> _Gray_: i did gconf-editor on /apps/nautilus/desktop as Seveas suggested and it's fine now. but do confirm if mounting to anywhere other than /media will not show a volume on the desktop?
[02:42] <dooglus> bob2: do any of them work?
[02:42] <rosen> dooglus, oh I thought I did
[02:42] <dooglus> bob2: last time I tried them, they didn't
[02:42] <bob2> dooglus: I don't know, I get one mail a month to my gmail account
[02:42] <Seveas> trigg3r, confirm :)
[02:42] <seife> bcl, tell me why
[02:42] <rosen> dooglus, excuse me I need to check what exactly I'm doing here ;)
[02:42] <_Gray_> trigg3r: yeah they wont mount
[02:42] <_Gray_> trigg3r: show i mean
[02:42] <dooglus> bob2: also, the ones in ubuntu scrape the HTML - it's a slow process.  checkgmail uses RSS so it's quicker
[02:43] <rosen> bob2, I only found Evolusion so far wich dont exactly look too promising
[02:43] <bob2> dooglus: ah
[02:43] <bcl> seife, 5.10 has some problems with cd burning (from desktop, using apps is ok) and dvd playback is screwed at least for me. 5.04 works great.
[02:43] <trigg3r> Seveas, _Gray_ ayt, thanks again! :)
[02:43] <bob2> bcl: have you filed a bug?
[02:43] <St^Anger^19m> !recompile
[02:43] <ubotu> Not a clue, St^Anger^19m
[02:43] <bcl> bob2, yeah its known.
[02:43] <_Gray_> bcl: have you tried gnomebaker?
[02:43] <St^Anger^19m> !kernel
[02:44] <bcl> _Gray_, yeah. works great. Its the nautilus-cd-whatever app that got hosed.
[02:44] <merly> st anger, there is an apt-get kernel sources or something like that i think
[02:44] <dooglus> rosen: did you see at the top of my post, "In the following instructions, replace "/home/user" with any path you like."
[02:44] <acetech> !kernel
[02:44] <_Gray_> bcl: oh. hope they fix it in dapper. ive always used gnomebaker so i never really tried
[02:44] <dooglus> rosen: you have to do that throughout.  replace it with the same each time :)
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> merly: is there a non-command line way ?
[02:44] <St^Anger^19m> :)
[02:44] <merly> hi _gray_/ i'm back with the same trouble, but slightly different. :)
[02:44] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: if you require a gui, you should not be touching your kernel in any way
[02:45] <bcl> rosen, are you looking for email apps? There's evolution, mozilla mail, thunderbird, mutt (text only). I think thunderbird and mozilla-mail support gmail checker extensions.
[02:45] <merly> st anger i've never even done it. you could try gentoo to compile your kernel, but then you have to compile compile compile everything
[02:45] <_Gray_> merly: what exactly is it?
[02:45] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: there are several configuration methods, tho, two of which are X-based
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: yes
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> one of those Xbased
[02:45] <dra> this ubuntu-thingy kicks butt
[02:45] <St^Anger^19m> there was oneon Caldera
[02:45] <dra> ^^
[02:45] <bcl> _Gray_, its just really nice to be able to right-click an iso and burn it. And I hate it when things that worked in previous releases get broken :)
[02:45] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: the kernel includes two
[02:46] <St^Anger^19m> bob2 which are?
[02:46] <merly> gray - i am still having trouble with my partitions. now, at least, i only show 1 ntfs partition which takes up the whole hd or most of it...
[02:46] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: config and gconfig
[02:46] <_Gray_> bcl: bah tell me about it. thats why im installing dapper. do something about it instead of just idling around lol
[02:46] <merly> gray but it won't resize for me. it says that it will, in gparted or the install utility, but then it doesn't
[02:46] <rosen> dooglus, I figured it out ... and feel quite stupid now
[02:46] <rosen> dooglus, thanks! heheheheh
[02:46] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: however, if uing menuconfig is too complicated for someone, the chances they can configure a bootable kernel is kinda low
[02:47] <bob2> why are all websites so ugly?
[02:47] <rosen> bcl, I think I'll give this a shot ... I'm learning from this .. well slowly
[02:47] <_Gray_> merly: ask Seveas: hed be more suited to this
[02:47] <bcl> _Gray_, yep. I just backed up to 5.04 since it works great for me. I can even play NWN without installing the ATI driver.
[02:47] <bob2> where all = 95%
[02:47] <acetech> bob2, that is what i am looking for the how to on.... qconfig
[02:47] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: sure ;)
[02:47] <bcl> bob2, because noone listens to Nielsen (www.useit.com) <G>
[02:47] <bob2> acetech: um, you're about to waste a whole day of your life
[02:47] <merly> seveas - when i type cfdisk /dev/hda , it comes up o.k. but if i type cfdisk /dev/hda1 , i get a "fatal error". is that normal?
[02:47] <bob2> are you sure that's what you want to do?
[02:48] <acetech> bob2, i have compiled a lot of kernels before... is there a walkthrough on this?
[02:48] <bob2> bcl: ah, I lost my link to that ages ago, thanks!
[02:48] <Seveas> merly, yes, cfdisk acts on *drives* not *partitoins*
[02:48] <liquidboy> is anyone else having trouble with synaptic? "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[02:48] <Seveas> liquidboy, hit the reload button
[02:48] <bob2> liquidboy: update, or 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:48] <_Gray_> liquidboy: hit reload
[02:48] <merly> seveas - i'm going to try to resize again so i can tell you the error i get
[02:49] <trigg3r> brb
[02:49] <liquidboy> tried it, i get this error "Could not download all repository indexes"
[02:49] <liquidboy> the same thing
[02:49] <liquidboy> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:49] <Seveas> liquidboy, check your sources.list for double entries
[02:49] <PHR023N> i'd like to give my great gratitude to the all the active helpers on this channel
[02:50] <St^Anger^19m> is there a way to make ubuntu as fast as yoper?
[02:50] <PHR023N> i've at last managed to recovered all 60 Gigs of my data
[02:50] <acetech> how do i remove stuff from the startup script, like bluetooth and ntp time sync... etc?
[02:50] <St^Anger^19m> that would make my day!
[02:50] <Seveas> acetech, update-rc.d -f ntpdate
[02:50] <liquidboy> seveas, i forgot where the list is...
[02:50] <Seveas> same for others you want to disable
[02:50] <dooglus> liquidboy: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then "sudo apt-get update" again
[02:50] <Seveas> liquidboy, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:50] <bob2> acetech: if you've compiled them in the past, what are you asking for?
[02:50] <intelikey> acetech man update-rc.d
[02:51] <kismet> Hi all!
[02:52] <acetech> bob2, because i like to make sure i am not missing something... i know gentoo has a good walkthrough... maybe ubuntu does not have one.  I think debian has one too..   should i use debians?
[02:52] <_Gray_> acetech: heres a handy thread for you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[02:52] <optish> i lost as to why my firestarter setup isnt working
[02:52] <optish> anyone familiar with firestarter and internet connection sharing?
[02:52] <bob2> acetech: what on earth are you talking about?
[02:52] <_Gray_> optish: did you run it as root? (sudo)
[02:52] <liquidboy> seveas, no double ups
[02:52] <bob2> acetech: configure it, then come back and ask how to build it
[02:52] <optish> _Gray_, yeh it works and all but i am not able to do internet connection sharing
[02:53] <kismet> Anyone can help me with printf?
[02:53] <_Gray_> optish: there was an option to enable it when you configured? that didnt work?
[02:53] <optish> nope
[02:53] <dooglus> kismet: the command?  or the function?
[02:53] <Seveas> kismet, man printf
[02:53] <kismet> dooglus, the function
[02:53] <Seveas> kismet, or a programming book - this is no programming help channel
[02:53] <optish> i am looking at the prefrences right now and it still don't make sense
[02:53] <kismet> Seveas, ok :)
[02:53] <dooglus> kismet: "man 3 printf" then :)   what's the problem?
[02:54] <_Gray_> optish: do you use DHCP to get an I.P. address?
[02:54] <os2mac> anyone have any luck getting all the function keys to work on a dell inspiron 8600? with K/Ubuntu?
[02:54] <optish> how can i make firestater allow dns/dhcp connections from the lan connection....because dhcp/dns connection works if i stop firestarter
[02:54] <merly> seveas - i in the [!!]  Partition Disks window on install. I select #1 primary 76.4 GB (lightning) (smiley face) ntfs /media/hda1, push enter
[02:54] <optish> btw, i'm using dnsmasq
[02:54] <Seveas> merly, use ntfsresize to resize ntfs, not cfdisk
[02:54] <optish> i added dns and dhcp for lan connection under incoming policy but still nothing
[02:55] <St^Anger^19m> why not have an i686 ISO together with an i386? that way newer pc's can take advantage...not only kernel stuff but also software
[02:55] <merly> seveas is that on the install cd?
[02:55] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: it's pointless
[02:55] <Knowerrors> What linux windowmanager/desktops do people use here (besides kde,gnome,xfce)?
[02:55] <intelikey> kismet what about printf/gprintf ?
[02:55] <bob2> Knowerrors: ion3
[02:55] <St^Anger^19m> bob2?
[02:55] <_Gray_> optish: under preferences > firewall > network settings, did u enable ICS and DHCP for the lan?
[02:55] <Seveas> merly, the installer can simply resize things for you
[02:55] <St^Anger^19m> bob2 y?
[02:55] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: have you benchmarked it to see if it's faster or not?
[02:55] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: other people have, and found very very few things benefit
[02:55] <St^Anger^19m> Yoper is faster
[02:55] <optish> _Gray_, yep
[02:55] <merly> seveas thats what i'm using. but after i clicked on it, it just goes back to the screen with 76 GB (it doesn't 'take')
[02:56] <St^Anger^19m> and they say its compiled for i686
[02:56] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: where can I see the study you did into how yoper uses gcc optimisations to be faster?
[02:56] <merly> seveas i'm on the installer or whatever
[02:56] <aghaster> was anyone able to use nvu on ubuntu x86_64?
[02:56] <aghaster> i compiled it
[02:56] <St^Anger^19m> bob2?
[02:56] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: or did you use it, feel that it was faster, then assume it was because of gcc flags?
[02:56] <St^Anger^19m> wot study
[02:56] <liquidboy> no ideas then?
[02:56] <aghaster> and it segfaults when i try to run it
[02:56] <aghaster> line 159: 22375 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[02:56] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: right, so you're guessing it would help
[02:56] <aghaster> :/
[02:56] <dooglus> merly: there's very little error checking in the installer.  if you have windows, do a full "chkdsk/f" in windows to fix whatever the problem is.
[02:56] <_Gray_> optish: do you have a router? maybe its conflicting with the firewall
[02:56] <Seveas> merly, not cfdisk on the install cd but simply the ubuntu installer, if your ntfs partition is not hopelessly fragmented, it can be resized
[02:56] <optish> _Gray_, i even ln -s dnsmasq to dhcpd under /etc/init.d to stop firestarter from complaining about dhcp....i know the dhcp/dns server works cause my laptop can get the settings when firestarter is not running
[02:57] <optish> _Gray_, i thought so but i disbaled nat and dhcp features on the router
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: look i'm no guru...all i'm saying is from an end-user experience..after all the flah and optimisations and stuff, Yoper was faster
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> so i was wondering
[02:57] <St^Anger^19m> if the same could be done with Ubuntu
[02:57] <merly> seveas - - i was using the installer. i will try chdisk and defrag
[02:57] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, then stick to yoper
[02:57] <frej> hmm, why does rebuilding an ubuntu dapper package complain about "make: *** No rule to make target `install', needed by `binary/epiphany-browser-dev'.
[02:57] <frej> "
[02:57] <_Gray_> optish, im lost on this one,maybe seveas will know
[02:58] <St^Anger^19m> Seveas: i want a mix
[02:58] <St^Anger^19m> ubuntu....with the speed of Yoper
[02:58] <St^Anger^19m> is that possible?
[02:58] <dooglus> I had a problem recently with resizing an NTFS partition.  there was some kind of small problem on the partition, but the installer wouldn't tell me about it - the resize just didn't 'take'.
[02:58] <rosen> dooglus, it seems to work now ... I got an error saying ' Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)' but I can't really see anything wrong
[02:58] <Seveas> frej, depends on how you are rebuilding it
[02:58] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, what is Yoper?
[02:58] <optish> using dnsmasq in place of dhcp3-server wont matter would it?
[02:58] <dooglus> ntfsresize told me in the end that I should do a "chkdsk/f" to fix it, and then it was fine.
[02:58] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ another distro
[02:58] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, wouldnt lfs be faster?
[02:58] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: you're missing the point
[02:59] <Seveas> frej, apt-get build-dep epiphany-browser && apt-get -b source epiphany-browser HAS to work
[02:59] <frej> Seveas:  in debian i just used dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b
[02:59] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: people have looked into it and found that gcc optimisations basically do not help for most things
[02:59] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, no it's not possible
[02:59] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ if i was a guru, yes
[02:59] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: for the things it does help, it's already used, automatically and transparently
[02:59] <Seveas> frej, that should work on UBuntu too
[02:59] <frej> ugh
[02:59] <frej> thought so
[02:59] <frej> nasty error
[02:59] <dooglus> rosen: well, if it works...
[02:59] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: so what makes Yoper faster?
[02:59] <Seveas> frej, would you mind sending the complete output to the pastebin
[02:59] <dooglus> rosen: by the way, version 1.4 is available noww - I updated that forums post for the new version.
[02:59] <frej> since, epiphany is broken on my dapper. Though a rebuild might help
[03:00] <Seveas> St^Anger^19m, probably it lacks a lot of features that Ubuntu has
[03:00] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: i have no idea if it is faster or not
[03:00] <TotalNewb> Does anyone know what activscp.h does? I'm trying to install wine and it's being a pain.
[03:00] <optish> maybe i should try something else in place of firestarter
[03:00] <optish> any recommendations?
[03:00] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, it's probably just cut alot of the 'fluff' that makes ubuntu so user-friendly
[03:00] <bob2> TotalNewb: you're aware that wine is available, precompiled, in ubuntu, right?
[03:00] <dooglus> optish: do you need a gui
[03:00] <_Gray_> bob2: its an ancient version
[03:00] <dooglus> ?
[03:00] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: on the same machine, it loaded much faster, much more responsive overall...OOo loads in no time..that kind of fast..
[03:01] <PHR023N> dooglus: may i ask what prog do you for resizing an NTFS partition?
[03:01] <rosen> dooglus, it should notify me when it realizes that right ?
[03:01] <hollywoodb> St^Anger^19m: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89842.html
[03:01] <intelikey> TotalNewb 'sudo apt-get install wine '
[03:01] <TotalNewb> I tried that. Synaptic said the instilation files are missing.
[03:01] <optish> dooglus, would prefer it..making it easier to add rules later but right now to get started not really
[03:01] <dooglus> PHR023N: I used 'ntfsresize' from the 'ntfsprogs' package
[03:01] <rosen> dooglus, with that autoupdate thing that is in Ubuntu
[03:01] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: perception != reality
[03:01] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: if you were willing to investigate it, then other people could use that to help ubuntu feel as fast
[03:01] <dooglus> rosen: checkgmail isn't in the ubuntu repositories, so you'll not get update notifications, no
[03:02] <rosen> allright
[03:02] <intelikey> ubotu tell TotalNewb about repos
[03:02] <dooglus> optish: I use ipkungfu.  it doesn't have a gui though.
[03:02] <rosen> dooglus, i'll try to do it manually
[03:02] <rosen> dooglus, good with a challenge ;) ... for the newbs
[03:02] <medom> how 2 do a ISO?
[03:02] <liquidboy> i don't see any reason at all that synaptic should be having problems, unless a server is down, in which case others would know about it...
[03:02] <dooglus> medom: 'do'?
[03:02] <medom> yes
[03:03] <dooglus> liquidboy: did you try what I suggested?
[03:03] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: perception??? does a stopwatch fit in perception?
[03:03] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:03] <optish> dooglus, it'll have options for internet connection sharing?
[03:03] <Madpilot> medom: do you mean "how do I burn an ISO?"
[03:03] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: if you used a stopwatch, that would be useful research
[03:03] <dooglus> optish: I'm not sure.
[03:03] <St^Anger^19m> i did use it
[03:03] <dooglus> optish: all linux firewalls are pretty much just front-ends to iptables anyway.
[03:03] <_Gray_> medom: do you mean burn an iso or create an iso?
[03:03] <optish> right i know
[03:03] <St^Anger^19m> OOo Writer...loaded in 4 seconds on Yoper
[03:03] <medom> no. i have a cd, i need to do a img, i try whit dd if ... of
[03:03] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: great
[03:03] <optish> but i'm lazy
[03:03] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: how many runs did you do?
[03:03] <medom> i need create
[03:04] <liquidboy> dooglus, after i entered the first command, it came up with another prompt (just the arrow)
[03:04] <liquidboy> didn't seem to do anything
[03:04] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, thats not exactly fast
[03:04] <liquidboy> maybe i hsould try it again
[03:04] <intelikey> medom  "do"  could mean anything from copy delete download burn to disk or mount    so  do an iso ????
[03:04] <dooglus> liquidboy: that means you've got unbalanced quotes, or brackets, or some such
[03:04] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ then what aboout 13 seconds on Ubuntu?
[03:04] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, lol your pc must be slow
[03:04] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, well no-ones stopping you from going back to yoper
[03:04] <dooglus> liquidboy: or that I did...
[03:04] <St^Anger^19m> of course...Pentium 4 Northwood 3.0Ghz with 1Gh corsair ram 3-3-3-6
[03:04] <liquidboy> dooglus unbalanced quotes?
[03:04] <niterider> anyone know anything about audacity
[03:04] <St^Anger^19m> thats slow?
[03:05] <techrush> you guys seen this: http://www.eggheaven2000.com/detailed/2735.html
[03:05] <frej> well, Seveas it fails right after dh_installdirs
[03:05] <St^Anger^19m> * 2-3-3-6
[03:05] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, wow those are real loose timings there
[03:05] <medom> no. i need do a iso.
[03:05] <liquidboy> niterider, i've used it quite a bit in windows, i dont know if that's useful to you or not...
[03:05] <frej> i'm not getting any errors otherwise
[03:05] <intelikey> medom forgive my lag time.    use a cdrecording tool to rip the cd
[03:05] <intelikey> !rip
[03:05] <niterider> i installed it in 5.10 ubuntu
[03:05] <ubotu> intelikey: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:05] <niterider> but
[03:05] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, wow my celeron loads ooo2 faster on ubuntu....
[03:05] <St^Anger^19m> and i used the same machine to test
[03:05] <liquidboy> dooglus, do you want to give me the commands again, incase you misspelt them?
[03:05] <St^Anger^19m> so the pc is no excuse
[03:05] <frej> i should mention that i'm running dapper
[03:05] <niterider> on start up i get the following error message
[03:05] <intelikey> !rip a cd
[03:05] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, intelikey
[03:06] <Seveas> !ask the bot
[03:06] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: timed, repeated trials are valuable information
[03:06] <dooglus> liquidboy: I put double quotes around the 2 commands.  you shouldn't.
[03:06] <St^Anger^19m> i did repeat
[03:06] <medom> yes. i need rip a cd
[03:06] <dooglus> 02:50 < dooglus> liquidboy: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then "sudo apt-get update" again
[03:06] <_Gray_> !tell _Gray_ about mp3
[03:06] <St^Anger^19m> i restarted the system over and over again
[03:06] <St^Anger^19m> same results
[03:06] <Naxcon> will someone give me the command to change the permissions on a file to allow everyone to do everything?
[03:06] <taxman> Naxcon: man chmod
[03:06] <St^Anger^19m> why do u make fun of me ? :(
[03:06] <niterider> There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer, you will not be able to play or record audio
[03:06] <_jason> Naxcon, chmod 777 file
[03:06] <intelikey> Naxcon chmod 777 file
[03:07] <beej_> y helo thar.
[03:07] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m, I cant believe a p4 with 1gb ram takes 12s to load ooo2..... my celeron does it in like 6
[03:07] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: who is making fun of you?
[03:07] <medom> i have a ubuntu cd, i need do a image
[03:07] <intelikey> Naxcon  man chmod
[03:07] <TotalNewb> I swear this apt-get system is the biggest pain in the neck. Why can't you just download things and have them install without spending your entire evening configuring and tweeking and arguing with out of sate archive information. Is it so freaking hard to keep an archive directory? for the love of God this is so stupidly difficult to install a simple fucntion.
[03:07] <liquidboy> dooglus, rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[03:07] <beej_> i don't have a script, lol
[03:07] <St^Anger^19m> bob2: you're being sarcastic :(
[03:07] <dooglus> liquidboy: I meant for you to copy the * but not the "
[03:07] <Seveas> * beej_ is back (gone 05:22:33) <-- that
[03:07] <frej> TotalNewb: the reason is binary compatability, not apt-get ;)
[03:07] <intelikey> medom you can not do an image.
[03:07] <liquidboy> yep
[03:07] <_Gray_> TotalNewb: it just takes a little getting used to. dont sweat it
[03:07] <liquidboy> dooglus, i did that
[03:07] <Seveas> do NOT run auto-awy crap in here
[03:08] <taxman> TotalNewb: write a better system and we'll see :)
[03:08] <beej_> oh, it was in xchat =\
[03:08] <dooglus> liquidboy: oh, that's ok then.  that error's to be expected.
[03:08] <beej_> sorry
[03:08] <liquidboy> my initial command was sudo >rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[03:08] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: when?
[03:08] <TotalNewb> Trust me, if I could I would.
[03:08] <optish> is there any sort of server package that can do UPnP for routing?
[03:08] <bob2> St^Anger^19m: if you really did time and repeat this, it is useful data
[03:08] <bob2> optish: "windows"
[03:08] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ what can i say....it's what i got...
[03:08] <Dido-> Would someone tell me how to create a shortcut for a folder on desktop?
[03:08] <medom> yes. i dont know to do a imagen
[03:08] <liquidboy> dooglus, do i go ahead with the next one? or will it not work?
[03:08] <MarkShark> Is anyone familiar with the theory of how USB scanner permissions are supposed to work on Breezy? I'm stumped.
[03:08] <qt2> err, should i have dri enabled when using nvidia-glz?
[03:08] <dooglus> liquidboy: yeah, go ahead :)
[03:08] <Seveas> Dido-, ln -s /path/to/folder ~/Desktop/some_name
[03:08] <bob2> MarkShark: presumably something like plugdev should own it
[03:09] <beej_> A lot of people seem to have problems with USB scanners/printers...
[03:09] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ i prelinked my system and performance got better on ubuntu....Yoper comes prelinked out of the box
[03:09] <optish> bob2, i meant for ubuntu by packages...ubuntu package in repository
[03:09] <St^Anger^19m> but it still was no match
[03:09] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m: what i did was install server on my celeron box then did a sudo apt-get install build-essential libstdc++5 ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Seveas> MarkShark, make sure you are in the scanner group
[03:09] <bob2> optish: I don't believe anything aside from bittorrent clients use it
[03:09] <MarkShark> bob2: Thanks...looking up plugdev now...
[03:09] <lotia> can anyone recommend a good console based frontend for cd/dvd burn utils?
[03:09] <_Gray_> St^Anger^19m: what does prelinking do? is it like prefetch on xp?
[03:09] <taxman> is there a way to refresh a program's gui in gnome? program is running but the interface is frozen
[03:09] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ yes i should think so
[03:09] <optish> thats not the point
[03:09] <bob2> MarkShark: tail'ing syslog while plugging it in should be useful, too
[03:10] <intelikey> folks i don't know what eastern language medom speeks but would someone tell him how to make an iso of the ubuntu cd please.
[03:10] <MarkShark> Seveas: I am in the scanner group, but "scanimage -L" works for right, but not me.
[03:10] <bob2> lotia: cdrecord
[03:10] <_Gray_> lotia: why not use gnomebaker?
[03:10] <bob2> _Gray_: no
[03:10] <frej> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5641
[03:10] <_Gray_> lotia: although you can use cdrecord.
[03:10] <_Gray_> bob2: lol too late
[03:10] <bob2> _Gray_: it pre-resolves undefinied runtime linking references, so the linker has les to do when the preogram starts
[03:10] <lotia> _Gray_: well i'm recording on a remote machine.
[03:10] <merly> dooglus - i didn't even know there was a chkdsk. i am running it now
[03:10] <lotia> so command line is easier
[03:11] <bob2> that work is undone everytime libraries are updated/moved
[03:11] <_Gray_> lotia: oh i see yeah cdrecord would do it
[03:11] <St^Anger^19m> me off 2 slp
[03:11] <St^Anger^19m> cu again tomorrow
[03:11] <Dido-> Seveas thank you. i've done this one but do you know if it's possible with the file browser  (or simply with mouse)
[03:11] <St^Anger^19m> 10q
[03:11] <_Gray_> bob2: sounds interesting i remember reading about it when installing gentoo
[03:11] <St^Anger^19m> _Gray_ some wiki tells u how to do it
[03:11] <St^Anger^19m> !prelink
[03:11] <arndtl> #aeonteam
[03:11] <ubotu> prelink is, like, totally, a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[03:12] <St^Anger^19m> it boosted my system
[03:12] <St^Anger^19m> bye all
[03:12] <_Gray_> cya
[03:12] <Seveas> ugh... prelink...
[03:12] <bob2> the fact the bot only knows references to the forums for that worries me
[03:12] <bob2> but does not surprise me in the least ;p
[03:13] <_Gray_> Seveas: prelink bad?
[03:13] <Knowerrors> Anyone try SyphonyOS/Mezzo desktop on ubuntu?  Im looking for a package that will work on it
[03:13] <Seveas> bob2, :)
[03:13] <taxman> ok, is there a way to refresh the gui of a program that's frozen
[03:13] <merly> dooglas - apparently chkdsk / f ran no prob - it said it woudl run next time at start up. and here it is already reboote.d i missed the whole thing!
[03:13] <frej> hmm, is epiphany broken for anyone in dapper?
[03:13] <Seveas> _Gray_, prelink is weird
[03:13] <bob2> taxman: why do you think the program is still running?
[03:13] <MarkShark> Thanks for the usbscanner help. I just found a link which suggests logging out and logging back in is necessary. Does that make sense to anyone?
[03:13] <taxman> top
[03:13] <bob2> that sounds exactly like the gui thread is hung
[03:13] <bob2> frej: what does the BTS say?
[03:13] <cafuego> there then
[03:13] <bob2> MarkShark: after adding yourself to a group, yes
[03:13] <cafuego> lessee if we still lag like hell when ftping
[03:13] <optish> _Gray_, got any other recommendations aprt from ipkungfu ...too many config files
[03:14] <bob2> cafuego: wondershaping?
[03:14] <frej> haven't seen anything bob2
[03:14] <aleahey> Knowerrors: i tried, didnt work
[03:14] <_Gray_> optish: Sorry.
[03:14] <MarkShark> Thanks...bye
[03:14] <cafuego> bob2: tc
[03:14] <taxman> bob2: so you're saying I'm stuck?
[03:14] <bob2> taxman: I'm wondering what leads you to believe it hasn't hung entirely
[03:15] <Phoul> Is there anything like VB for ubuntu?
[03:15] <pete__> i just got into an argument with some moron who claims i'm not using linux -_-
[03:15] <Seveas> Phoul, thank god, NO!
[03:15] <Phoul> YAY!
[03:15] <Phoul> :D
[03:15] <taxman> well it minimizes easy. otherwise wishful thinking I guess
[03:15] <Seveas> it doesn't get much worse than php on linux
[03:15] <Phoul> :D
[03:15] <Phoul> Seveas...
[03:15] <cafuego> Phoul: VB goes with anything, not specifically Ubuntu.
[03:15] <bob2> Phoul: realbasic
[03:15] <frej> 1) epiphany it won't start 2) i can't rebuild it (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5641)
[03:16] <Phoul> The Seveas?
[03:16] <merly> do the ubuntu boss people take suggestions on what sort of hardware support to add to the install or live cds?
[03:16] <bob2> cafuego: vb original stout is surprisingly good
[03:16] <bob2> merly: no
[03:16] <taxman> bob2: and I really wanted to save it's data before I had to kill it
[03:16] <bob2> merly: they support whatever has drivers
[03:16] <Dex-Freudii> hi there
[03:16] <merly> for some reason i've had better luck with the gentoo install cd (immediate recognition) than with ubuntu
 The Seveas? <-- I am a The now?
[03:16] <bob2> merly: if something is not supported, file a bug
[03:16] <Dex-Freudii> has anybody installed skype on ubuntu hoary?
[03:16] <cafuego> bob2: Without ANY lag and still downloading I can say "YAY!" to that ;-)
[03:16] <bob2> haha
[03:16] <Phoul> Seveas, like the person who made the respositoy
[03:17] <Phoul> ?
[03:17] <_Gray_> merly: use the Ubuntu Device Databse under Applications > System Tools
[03:17] <merly> bob2- how do i describe this problem where there is a bar across the top of my screen, and (what should be) the bottom of the display is above that? squished?
[03:17] <frej> ick, not fun learning another package system from scratch
[03:17] <Seveas> Phoul, in that case yes
[03:17] <Phoul> 0-0
[03:17] <bob2> merly: sounds reasonable
[03:17] <Phoul> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING SKYPE IN THERE!
[03:17] <Dex-Freudii> has anybody installed skype on ubuntu hoary?
[03:17] <merly> bob2 - :v) is there no technical name for the phenomenon?
[03:18] <frej> so much knowledge you have to learn again :( (deb/rpm)
[03:18] <Seveas> Phoul, please don't scream
[03:18] <Phoul> sorry
[03:18] <Phoul> :P
[03:18] <Phoul> Just your like...
[03:18] <Phoul> :|
[03:18] <Phoul> BIG!
[03:18] <Phoul> :P
[03:18] <sethk> merly, your monitor can't handle your video settings
[03:18] <frej> Seveas: did you see the paste-bin link?
[03:19] <Seveas> frej, yes but I chose to ignore it, it's 3:19am and I should get some sleep
[03:19] <coyote10> hello
[03:20] <frej> hehe ok
[03:20] <frej> fair enough
[03:20] <frej> same here ;)
[03:20] <Phoul> Gah i have a question
[03:20] <Phoul> Is there anything like photoshop for ubuntu
[03:20] <Phoul> I cant find anything like that
[03:20] <bob2> Dex-Freudii: please just ask your question...
[03:20] <bob2> p	gimp
[03:20] <_Gray_> Phoul: gimp
[03:21] <Phoul> Ahh
[03:21] <Phoul> Now you see
[03:21] <Dex-Freudii> bob2, has anybody installed skype on ubuntu hoary?
[03:21] <Phoul> I cant seem to crop with that
[03:21] <randabis> hmm i actually hve a problem for once
[03:21] <bob2> Dex-Freudii: yes, lots of people
[03:21] <coyote10> i have a winmodem pctel hsp56 mr and i can don't work?
[03:21] <Dex-Freudii> ok thanx
[03:21] <bob2> Dex-Freudii: did you have a follow-up question?
[03:21] <Dex-Freudii> not necessarily
[03:21] <dooglus> merly: you have to use the "/f" option.  I ran it without the first time, and it found nothing.
[03:21] <liquidboy> dooglus, i think it worked, btw, when i typed apt-get update, did i enable the multiverse repositores?
[03:21] <dooglus> but when I used "/f" it found and fixed the problem.
[03:22] <taxman> coyote10: google for linmodem to see if yours is a supported model
[03:22] <dooglus> liquidboy: no.  the stuff I told you to do didn't change anything other than fix the broken cache
[03:22] <merly> dooglus - i typed that. it said it had to reboot, becaues some process was using drive. then i rebooted and i didn't even see it work
[03:22] <liquidboy> oh right
[03:22] <randabis> my laptop keyboard suddenly freezes up sometimes everything else works though anyone had this problem? anyone have suggestions to fix this? I'm using kubuntu breezy
[03:22] <liquidboy> well, i think it worked, thans
[03:22] <liquidboy> *thanks
[03:23] <intelikey> coyote10 winmodems are by defination "windows" modems    if you get it to work you are amoung the fortunate.
[03:23] <bulio> installed ubuntu!!!!
[03:23] <coyote10> yes i do but not found the driver
[03:23] <_Gray_> ubuntu? whats that?
[03:23] <bulio> but how do I update?
[03:23] <bulio> I got this cd last year
[03:23] <Dex-Freudii> bulio, apt-get
[03:24] <_Gray_> edit your sources.list then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:24] <bulio> apt-get what?
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> whatever you want
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> which version do you have?
[03:24] <bulio> 4.10
[03:24] <_Gray_> bulio: when i say edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, you should remove all the SINGLE #'s then do sudo apt-get update && suo apt-get upgrade
[03:25] <Dex-Freudii> bulio, waw... that's pretty old
[03:25] <Dex-Freudii> why don't you download last ubuntu
[03:25] <Dex-Freudii> sorry... latest ubuntu
[03:25] <merly> dooglas - now i can see it's running. verifying indexes. thanks
[03:25] <bulio> do I really need to?
[03:25] <intelikey> Dex-Freudii yeah a whole year..... </sarcasm>
[03:25] <Madpilot> bulio: there's been a huge amount of upgrades & improvements
[03:26] <_Gray_> bulio: upgrading to 5.10 should show alot of improvements across the board
[03:26] <bulio> so I need to re-download a CD?
[03:26] <_Gray_> bulio: yes
[03:26] <Dex-Freudii> bulio, yes
[03:26] <bulio> can I download it and burn it in ubuntu?
[03:26] <merly> is ntfs resize on the live cd?
[03:26] <Madpilot> bulio: you can update in place, probably
[03:26] <_Gray_> bulio: yes
[03:26] <Dex-Freudii> bulio, i guess so
[03:26] <randabis> my laptop keyboard suddenly freezes up sometimes everything else works though anyone had this problem? anyone have suggestions to fix this? I'm using kubuntu breezy
[03:26] <FarrisG> ANy idea why all my gnome theme icons are screwed up in a VNC session? They used to be fine. In fact, they still look fine if I'm using vino/remote-desktop. But not when I use realvnc or tightvnc
[03:26] <bulio> or can I update to it?
[03:26] <_Gray_> bulio: you can dist-update
[03:27] <_Gray_> bulio: but its better to just get a fresh install
[03:27] <intelikey> if ubuntu is not good one year after you get it, why bother with it?   on the other hand if all is working well one year later then why mess it up with upgrades?
[03:27] <steve_> does anyone know the shortcut for minimizing a window in enlightement?
[03:27] <Dex-Freudii> _Gray_, dist-update downloads the whole iso image or just the packages to update??
[03:27] <bulio> the mouse seems so non-responsive
[03:27] <nickrud> bulio, you would probably have to download just as much, if not more for upgrading in place (and go thru hoary on the way)
[03:27] <_Gray_> intelikely: that sort of thinking would mean that we would go nowhere
[03:27] <Madpilot> bulio: if you do the dist-upgrade, go from 4.10 to 5.04 to 5.10, don't skip 5.04 - there have been problems doing that...
[03:27] <bulio> 533 mhz processor
[03:27] <nickrud> better to just get a new iso
[03:28] <Dex-Freudii> intelikey, ......
[03:28] <bulio> 300MB ram
[03:28] <bulio> that good?
[03:28] <MarkShark> I'm still tracking down a usb scanner installation problem. /usr/share/doc/libsane/README.Debian.gz refers to a /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.hotplug script. That doesn't exist on my system. Can anyone who has a usb scanner working on breezy check for the existence of that file?
[03:28] <_Gray_> Dex-Freudii: it updates all packages to what are in the latest release
[03:28] <bulio> so dl new iso with ubuntu?
[03:28] <_Gray_> Dex-Freudii: it can mess up a system though
[03:28] <bulio> burn it as .iso?
[03:28] <_Gray_> bulio: yes
[03:28] <Dex-Freudii> _Gray_, that's waht I thought
[03:28] <intelikey> bulio i have ran ubuntu on p133 with 64m ram  so you have a fine system.
[03:29] <Madpilot> intelikey: with Gnome on that system?
[03:29] <_Gray_> well i have to go now lunch time cya everyone
[03:29] <TotalNewb> Grrr. I =HATE= this damn instilation system. I can't even fix the blasted problem because it won't let me save any changes to my sources.list file. I even chowned the blasted file and it won't let me save it. Can this system be any more obtuse?!
[03:29] <bulio> ok
[03:29] <bulio> how can I make the mouse more responsive?
[03:29] <intelikey> Madpilot yes.  but not ub desktop it is too bloated for the small hdd
[03:29] <optish> okay somehow firestarter and internet connection sharing works if i use static ip....still cant get dhcp to work...i did allow dhcp for incoming connections from lan under policies
[03:29] <_Gray_> you have to sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:29] <Dex-Freudii> bulio, give him some cheesse
[03:29] <jackhong> question: hi everyone, gksudo doesn't work for me anymore, i tried running it from command-line, it asks for the password directly from the terminal instead of poping up a window, and it echos the password back as clear text, help please!
[03:30] <Dex-Freudii> bbl
[03:30] <Madpilot> intelikey: I bet... that's a pretty old system!
[03:30] <intelikey> hdd 1g
[03:30] <optish> any thing i am missing on how to get dhcp to work?
[03:30] <bulio> so dl the .iso, and ubuntu will have the tools to burn it?
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> MarkShark: I don't have that file, but there is an executable libusbscanner in that folder.
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> MarkShark: Mine's a USB scanner/copier/printer combo.
[03:31] <bimberi> bulio: yes, right click on the ISO file in nautilus and select Write to CD/DVD
[03:31] <bulio> k
[03:31] <merly> is there a text-only install method?
[03:31] <MarkShark> tonyyarusso: Thanks...
[03:31] <AbdulSpiegel> beb beb
[03:31] <bob2> jackhong: what did you change since it last worked?
[03:32] <bob2> merly: you can disable the fb, yes
[03:32] <j1> hey all i'd like a hand creating a linux partition on a second hard drive...  appreciated : )
[03:32] <intelikey> Madpilot find out when 1g hdd's came out and that will be about the age.
[03:32] <jackhong> bob2, i switched to nss-ldap
[03:32] <AbdulSpiegel> Umm , can anyone assist me in getting my sound to work??/
[03:32] <bob2> j1: is that really what you want to do, or do you want to make a filesystem?
[03:32] <DeezNuts> Newbie Needs Help...accessing NTFS drives on machine as current user
[03:32] <jackhong> bob2, but everything else works fine
[03:32] <bob2> AbdulSpiegel: not unless you provide a lot more detail
[03:32] <bob2> jackhong: uh
[03:32] <bob2> jackhong: does it work for local accounts?
[03:32] <bob2> DeezNuts: /msg ubotu ntfs
[03:32] <jackhong> bob2, haven't tried that
[03:33] <j1> hmm, bob2,  i think i need a partition to put a filesystem on, so i'm thinking I need BOTH// : )
[03:33] <merly> bob2 - you fixed it again. :v) much better.
[03:33] <merly> bob2 - so the squishy issue is a fb prob
[03:33] <j1> or am I waay of base here.  maybe partitions are a windows thing, i thought they were part of PC disk structure
[03:34] <AbdulSpiegel> bob2, well bob, its quite simple, it doesnt work. when i was trying knoppix it work fine, i could hear the sounda and play a CD, then i install ubuntu and bam nothing...
[03:34] <jackhong> bob2, sudo works fine, but gksu/gksudo do not
[03:35] <TotalNewb> This thing is %&^$&*%^$^)(&*^#@%^ RETARDED!
[03:35] <Nigelenki> model name      : Mobile Genuine Intel(R) processor       1600MHz
[03:35] <j1> whats wrong Tota
[03:35] <j1> l
[03:35] <Nigelenki> What daemon scales the CPU speed on Mobile Pentium M's
[03:35] <odie5533> Can I run a php script from an sh script
[03:35] <cafuego> odie5533: 'powernowd'
[03:35] <bob832> anyone here use the app whereami ?
[03:35] <j1> bob2: you there?
[03:35] <cafuego> odie5533: Yes.
[03:35] <cafuego> Nigelenki powernowd
[03:35] <intelikey> j1  'sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc '   assumes ide cable 2 master    and make what ever partitions you like.    then 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc1 '   assumes the first partition you make and ext3 file system.
[03:35] <TotalNewb> I'm just going back to windows. At least as crappy and virus riden as it is you can install a simple freaking program without wasting your entire day off.
[03:35] <GURT> i can't get the Audio Disc icon off of my desktop
[03:36] <merly> w00t! dooglus, you're a genius !!
[03:36] <odie5533> cafueg: how exactly?
[03:36] <jackhong> bob2, should i try a local account?
[03:36] <DeezNuts> Newbie Needs Help...accessing NTFS drives on machine as current user
[03:36] <sethk> DeezNuts, do man mount, check the uid= and gid= in NTFS mount options
[03:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell DeezNuts about mountwindows
[03:36] <j1> thanks inteli...
[03:37] <AbdulSpiegel> anyone?
[03:37] <bulio> downloading now
[03:37] <odie5533> how do I run a php script from an sh script?
[03:37] <techrush> ubotu tell techrush about mountwindows
[03:37] <intelikey> GURT just another reason i dislike 'auto-everything'
[03:37] <j1> it is hdb, and there is already a fat32 partition on it
[03:37] <DeezNuts> sethk: where can I find that?
[03:37] <j1> so i'm thinking it will be hdb2
[03:37] <sethk> DeezNuts, find what?  the man page?  Open a terminal and type    man mount
[03:37] <bob2> j1: ?
[03:37] <pldn> would anyone have any experience with 32bit j2sdk's on ubuntu amd64?
[03:37] <bob2> jackhong: er, of course
[03:37] <intelikey> odie5533 you call it just like you would from the command line
[03:37] <bulio> wowo
[03:38] <j1> yes bob2
[03:38] <bob2> jackhong: how else will you figure out if it's ldap being fucked or not?
[03:38] <bulio> linux is so much better than windows ME!!!!!
[03:38] <odie5533> intelikey: how do I call it from teh command line though
[03:38] <GURT> how can i turn it off?
[03:38] <bob2> AbdulSpiegel: that's not even close to specific enough
[03:38] <GURT> nvm, ill poke around
[03:38] <bob2> AbdulSpiegel: put your /var/log/dmesg, output of "lspci" and "lsmod" up somewhere
[03:38] <jackhong> bob2, ldap should be working...
[03:38] <bob2> AbdulSpiegel: e.g. pastebin.ca
[03:38] <intelikey> file.php  most likely  :)
[03:38] <bob2> jackhong: and so should gksudo
[03:38] <techrush> stupid bot
[03:38] <merly> at last, it's installing!
[03:38] <Madpilot> GURT: there's an option to turn that desktop display off, I'm digging for it for you...
[03:38] <pldn> it looks like its needing libXp.so.6, but after combing through apt, it only seems there is a 64bit version available... any ideas?
[03:38] <linlin> Is the KDE that is in the Ubuntu repo's the new KDE 3.5?
[03:38] <GURT> i got it
[03:38] <GURT> thanks
[03:39] <jackhong> bob2, i am able to anything else but not gksudo
[03:39] <bob2> linlin: your question didn't specify which version of ubuntu
[03:39] <jackhong> bob2, to do *
[03:39] <AbdulSpiegel> ok hang on
[03:39] <Madpilot> GURT: remind me where it is, then? :)
[03:39] <bob2> jackhong: yes, now try it
[03:39] <linlin> Oh, my bad 5.10
[03:39] <odie5533> how do I call a php script from the command line
[03:39] <bob2> pldn: install ia32-libs?
[03:39] <bulio> how do I minimize xchat to tray?
[03:39] <GURT> i turen doff mount removeable storage
[03:39] <Siph0n> is it safe to get Wine from Synaptic? i thought i saw that i should follow other instructions?
[03:39] <bob2> odie5533: php4 whatever.php
[03:39] <bob2> odie5533: tho, idally, you don't do that
[03:39] <pldn> bob2: yessir... doesnt look like it contains libXp
[03:39] <linlin> its regular ubuntu 5.10 server install
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know of a good HTML tag-checker app?
[03:39] <bob2> tonyyarusso: tidy
[03:40] <intelikey> odie5533   file.php  most likely  :)
[03:40] <bob2> wait, no
[03:40] <bimberi> linlin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[03:40] <bob2> validate from w3c-tools or whatever it is
[03:40] <Madpilot> TongMaster: tidy - which is built into Bluefish
[03:40] <pldn> bob2: Im running firefox 1.5 32bit just fine, so mixed mode is working.. somewhat ;)
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> bob2: Is that in repos?
[03:40] <bob2> tonyyarusso: yes
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> bob2: Thanks.
[03:40] <bob2> pldn: chroot time, I suppose
[03:40] <bob832> if i put in the command mv myfile.txt put don't put in a destination, where would the file go?
[03:40] <pldn> bob2: thats the rub... I really dont want to chroot this
[03:40] <bob2> bob832: nowhere
[03:41] <bob2> bob832: that's not a valid command, and mv will tell you so
[03:41] <linlin> yes, but im not using kubuntu, i am asking if i just do something like "sudo apt-get install kde" will i get 3.5?
[03:41] <intelikey> odie5533   /path/to/script/scriptname.php     ?
[03:41] <pldn> bob2: I will if i have to, but it seems a pretty big waste to double everything up
[03:41] <bob832> hmm, ok thanks
[03:41] <intelikey> and it may not end in .<anything>
[03:42] <bob2> pldn: yes, using 32-bit applications on an amd64 system is suboptimal
[03:42] <pldn> bob2: is there a good place i can rtfm on it?
[03:42] <pldn> bob2: most of the ones ive seen were just standard chroots, nothing about getting i386 debs on there
[03:42] <bob2> uh?
[03:42] <bimberi> linlin: no, 3.4.3
[03:42] <bob2> the point of making the chroot is to set it up using i386 packages
[03:43] <DeezNuts> sethk: I have my NTFS drives "mounted" but it won't let me access them...I don't have correct permissions, however, I'm the only user on the machine
[03:43] <linlin> damn
[03:43] <pldn> bob2: I understand that, but what ive seen on the net, the docs were just setting up normal jails, not those with 32bit support
[03:43] <sethk> DeezNuts, as I told you already, use the uid= and gid= for NTFS options with mount
[03:44] <sethk> DeezNuts, use your uid and gid, then you own all the mounted files
[03:44] <DeezNuts> sethk: I'm sorry...I'm really new to this, I'll see if I can find that
[03:44] <Tebari> Guys I need some help. I installed breezy, updated it and rebooted. But then it freezes when it tries to load X11.
[03:44] <sethk> DeezNuts, how are you mounting it?
[03:44] <pldn> bob2: either way, once the chroot gets setup, is it safe to remove ia32-libs* and linux32?
[03:44] <jackhong> bob2, i tried gksudo with a local account, still doesn't work
[03:44] <bimberi> linlin: however, if you add the repository mentioned on that page you should get 3.5
[03:44] <DeezNuts> sethk: it's automatically mounted on my desktop
[03:44] <TheDiff|detached> hey
[03:44] <linlin> and it wont break anything?
[03:45] <TheDiff|detached> is there a way to recover an installation with the normal install CD?
[03:45] <toothpick> Theoretically if I have a debian install and change all my sources to ubuntu...then and apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade would be safe?
[03:45] <intelikey> jackhong kde or gnome ?
[03:45] <sethk> DeezNuts, ok, you have to remount it with different options.  If you are really new, probably the easy thing to do is edit /etc/fstab
[03:45] <jackhong> Insecta, gnome
[03:45] <jackhong> intelikey, gnome
[03:45] <pete__> toothpick sounds like a bad idea....
[03:45] <bob2> pldn: except that things like openoffice won't work anymore, yes
[03:45] <bob2> jackhong: does sudo?
[03:45] <merly> hrmm. i bet there is some clickey clickey where i don't install support for all 6000 languages, isn't there?
[03:45] <bob2> TheDiff|detached: sure
[03:45] <sethk> DeezNuts, add the options for uid= and gid=, then umount it and mount it again (Or just reboot)
[03:45] <pldn> roger that... thanks!
[03:45] <jackhong> bob2, sudo works
[03:45] <j1> root@ubuntu:~# mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb2
[03:45] <j1> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[03:45] <j1> Could not stat /dev/hdb2 --- No such file or directory
[03:45] <j1> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[03:45] <bob2> toothpick: if you have to ask, no
[03:45] <TheDiff|detached> hmm
[03:45] <toothpick> pete__: ok
[03:46] <bulio> how do I change my root password?
[03:46] <bimberi> linlin: not done it personally, so no idea, but i would be pretty confident
[03:46] <bob2> j1: which is pretty clear.../dev/hdb2 does not exist
[03:46] <calamari> hi
[03:46] <bob2> bulio: you don't. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:46] <TheDiff|detached> the issue is there was a bad shutdown, and now Ubuntu is complaining about the minix module missing and wont mount my harddrives
[03:46] <j1> yep, but i just created in in cfdisk
[03:46] <jackhong> bob2, same problem as my ldap account
[03:46] <j1> then went back into cfdisk and it shows it
[03:46] <TheDiff|detached> i'm trying to figure out what my options are at this point
[03:46] <bob2> j1: it may or may not be recreated before you reboot
[03:46] <sethk> TheDiff|detached, minix?  You are using minix?
[03:46] <bimberi> linlin: by the way, installing the kubuntu-desktop package will be equivalent to a kubuntu install (fyi)
[03:46] <TheDiff|detached> sethk: haha no
[03:46] <j1> thanks, i'll reboot and check again.
[03:46] <TheDiff|detached> but it complains about a minix module
[03:47] <TheDiff|detached> i dont know why
[03:47] <bob2> jackhong: do you know how to use strace?
[03:47] <intelikey> j1  'fdisk -l /dev/hdb  '    it shows there ?
[03:47] <linlin> do i still need to add that repo bimberi ?
[03:47] <sethk> TheDiff|detached, that sounds like your partition table is borked
[03:47] <bob2> actually, nevermind
[03:47] <jackhong> bob2, not really..
[03:47] <TheDiff|detached> sethk: how can i recover it?
[03:47] <jackhong> bob2, strace <command> ?
[03:48] <tjs> will breezy-updates get firefox 1.5 ?
[03:48] <bimberi> linlin: only if you want 3.5, otherwise you'll get 3.4
[03:48] <bimberi> tjs: no
[03:48] <bimberi> ubotu tell tjs about firefox15
[03:48] <tjs> thanks
[03:48] <bimberi> tjs: np :)
[03:48] <tjs> :)
[03:48] <techrush> someone tell that bot to tell me about mounting windows partition
[03:49] <techrush> cuz it wouldnt listen to me
[03:49] <calamari> I'm considering buying a dvd+-rw drive.. is there software available for linux to rip, convert, etc.. dvd movies? (for legal purposes only, of course)
[03:49] <techrush> or im too dumb to use it
[03:49] <bimberi> ubotu tell techrush about mountwindows
[03:49] <intelikey> !ntfs
[03:49] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:49] <techrush> thx
[03:49] <TheDiff|detached> calamari: there are definitely programs for burning
[03:49] <TheDiff|detached> i'm not sure about ripping
[03:49] <tjs> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/windows
[03:49] <tjs> or something like that
[03:49] <ElitePete> hm
[03:50] <sethk> TheDiff|detached, if you know what it should be, you can just use fdisk and set the numbers correctly
[03:50] <TheDiff|detached> sethk: i'm not sure if its the partition table
[03:50] <sulli> Could anyone help me get my wireless card working in Breezy,  I have been trying to use ndiswrapper, I have installed the windows driver and it recognizes that I have the hardware but the card won't appear in the network configurations
[03:50] <TheDiff|detached> i think it other files in the filesystem
[03:50] <TheDiff|detached> like system files
[03:50] <techrush> hm
[03:50] <sethk> TheDiff|detached, if it thinks you have a minix partition, then the partition table is borked
[03:51] <techrush> i have no problem with the windows partion auto mounting its just that i cannot access it
[03:51] <TheDiff|detached> because in ASH i can mount the drives if i use the explicit mount command
[03:51] <techrush> unless i sudo nautilus
[03:51] <calamari> TheDiff|detached: am I going to run into driver problems, or are these things pretty standardized?  (it's a sony)
[03:51] <techrush> which is annoying
[03:51] <TheDiff|detached> calamari: hmm i'm not too sure
[03:51] <ElitePete> hm
[03:52] <ElitePete> htmmm.......
[03:52] <intelikey> ElitePete you said that already
[03:52] <jackhong> bob2, i don't think gksudo is crashing, because it does ask me for the password, but instead of poping up a window it prompts for the password directly from commandline
[03:52] <ElitePete> intelikey i know :-0
[03:52] <cyphase> what's wrong with the C++ statement..
[03:52] <cyphase> command_list	=	["ps",			"fl",			"aa"] ;
[03:52] <cyphase> if command list was declared..
[03:52] <cyphase> string command_list[3] ;
[03:53] <cyphase> i haven't coded C++ for a while..
[03:53] <calamari> TheDiff|detached: np, thanks :)
[03:53] <sethk> cyphase, try {} instead of [] 
[03:53] <TheDiff|detached> if i do a reinstallation of ubuntu with the regular install disk, will it overwrite my homedirectory and such
[03:53] <bob2> jackhong: sounds like a bug in gksudo
[03:54] <cyphase> llol
[03:54] <cyphase> oh yea
[03:54] <bob2> TheDiff|detached: depends how you set your system up
[03:54] <jackhong> bob2, i dont' knwo, it worked before
[03:54] <TheDiff|detached> bob2: explain
[03:54] <bob2> TheDiff|detached: no
[03:54] <fushi> lol
[03:54] <intelikey> TheDiff|detached yep most likely
[03:54] <TheDiff|detached> haha
[03:54] <bob2> jackhong: where "before" = "before you switched your entire auth system."
[03:54] <TheDiff|detached> okay
[03:54] <bob2> TheDiff|detached: if /home is on /, you're boned
[03:54] <jackhong> bob2, yes
[03:54] <bob2> if not, you're fine
[03:54] <TheDiff|detached> okay then i'm boned
[03:54] <merly> bob2 - are you and your fellow helpists compensated for this time/knowledge ? or are you just here out of kindness? :v)
[03:54] <bob2> merly: no
[03:54] <jackhong> bob2, but i really need ldap auth
[03:54] <TheDiff|detached> hmm i need to mount this shit and copy it to a usb drive
[03:55] <bob2> I got in trouble for spending time helping here instead of working, tho
[03:55] <NEURAL_NET> hello
[03:55] <jackhong> bob2, i dont' want to switch back
[03:55] <bob2> jackhong: great, you'll need to file a bug
[03:55] <NEURAL_NET> root@host:/home/user/inird-root/dev# /dev/MAKEDEV null
[03:55] <NEURAL_NET> /dev/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "null"
[03:55] <NEURAL_NET> :(
[03:55] <intelikey> TheDiff|detached you could tar.gz /home  and save the file someplace safe untill after the reload
[03:55] <merly> bob2 are you in the ubuntu hierarchy in some way?
[03:55] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: don't use MAKEDEV
[03:55] <bob2> merly: not really
[03:55] <TheDiff|detached> intelikey: yeah
[03:55] <TheDiff|detached> i think i just need to replace a few system files
[03:56] <TheDiff|detached> to recover it
[03:56] <TheDiff|detached> maybe...
[03:56] <merly> bob2 - well, I appreciate what you are doing. ;v) I think I love ubuntu again, I'll know for certain when if it finishes installing
[03:56] <sethk> TheDiff|detached, that doesn't fit in at all with what you are describing
[03:56] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: what are you hoping to do with your initrd?
[03:56] <jackhong> has anyone here tried gksudo with pam set to ldap authentication?
[03:56] <fulld> during the install, I messed up the partition table on my first SW raid device. how can I fix that so my hd[ceg]  can live in harmony again?
[03:56] <bob2> merly: thanks!
[03:56] <intelikey> NEURAL_NET  ls /dev/null
[03:56] <NEURAL_NET> i'm creating a initrd
[03:56] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: why?
[03:57] <NEURAL_NET> root@host:/home/user/inird-root/dev# ls /dev/null
[03:57] <NEURAL_NET> /dev/null
[03:57] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: it'd probably save us all a lot of time if you stopped what you're doing and told us what on earth your plan is
[03:57] <NEURAL_NET> for use kernel totally modular
[03:57] <bob2> you also mispelt initrd
[03:57] <intelikey> NEURAL_NET  use mc and copy your /dev/null
[03:57] <vicky> NEURAL_NET use mc and copy it to work you are rebuilding it
[03:57] <bob2> which is encouragaing
[03:57] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: why?
[03:57] <vicky> which is a bag of spanners
[03:57] <NEURAL_NET> for test module
[03:58] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: no, stop
[03:58] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: explain what your actual goal is
[03:58] <NEURAL_NET> and not recompile the kernel every time that i must try something
[03:58] <bob2> not each little broken plan
[03:58] <vicky> and not much happened at that. Is it safe to get the Audio Disc icon off of my data
[03:58] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: this has nothing to do with an initrd at all
[03:58] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: use an ubuntu kernel
[03:58] <vicky> this has nothing to shade right now
[03:58] <vicky> use an ubuntu 5.10, but I wouldn't knoe
[03:58] <jackhong> has anyone here tried gksudo with pam set to ldap authentication??
[03:58] <bob2> jackhong: what did google tell you?
[03:59] <jackhong> bob2, i googled a lot, but couldn't find anything
[03:59] <TheDiff|detached> okay well it appears to be booting in recovery mode
[03:59] <TheDiff|detached> so far
[03:59] <intelikey> why don't you guys let people compile what they want to.  it's their software, they are as much the owners of it as you are.
[03:59] <bob2> intelikey: oh, stop being an idiot
[04:00] <bob2> people can compile whatever they want, I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head
[04:00] <intelikey> gnu-gpl remember.
[04:00] <bob2> I'm trying to establish if there's an actual reason for NEURAL_NET to bother
[04:00] <dashinho> where I configure/set my local area ip address?
[04:00] <TheDiff|detached> so if it is booting in recovery mode
[04:00] <bob2> so I know if I should waste time helping him or her
[04:00] <TheDiff|detached> that means its not my partition table, right>
[04:00] <TheDiff|detached> ?
[04:00] <bob2> if it's "OMG I NEED A CUSTOM KERNEL IT IS FASTER", I'll go nail things into my toes instead of bothering to help
[04:01] <intelikey> so fine.  but don't tell them "don't do that"  just go nail things in your toes.
[04:01] <TheDiff|detached> haha
[04:01] <TheDiff|detached> well apparently that fixed it
[04:01] <TheDiff|detached> so far..
[04:02] <TheDiff|detached> just booting into recovery mode
[04:02] <ryanh> Hello all... Is it possible to run dual-boot with the linux partition on a slave ATA drive? The master drive is a SATA RAID-0 array
[04:02] <TheDiff|detached> and then booting normally
[04:02] <bob2> ryanh: is it really a RAID-0 array?
[04:02] <bob2> ryanh: but yes
[04:02] <NEURAL_NET> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/17vw1680.html
[04:02] <ryanh> bob2: Well, yes, it's two hard drives in an array for speed. Thanks!
[04:03] <bob2> ryanh: ah, I've just never seen a real SATA RAID controller, just via/silicon image/intel fake raid
[04:03] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: why are you trying to compile a custom kernel with an initrd?
[04:03] <ElitePete> because he is an idiot.
[04:04] <bob2> I'm not being judgemental, I'm trying to establish if there is a good reason for it
[04:04] <NEURAL_NET> ElitePete,
[04:04] <NEURAL_NET> how old are you????
[04:05] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: why are you trying to compile a custom kernel with an initrd?
[04:05] <ElitePete> is it any of your business?
[04:05] <NEURAL_NET> becouse i want kernel modular
[04:05] <NEURAL_NET> and i want to test the modules
[04:05] <Sneaky_Bastard> bob 2.0 ?
[04:05] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: you're not really answering the question
[04:05] <intelikey> ElitePete yeah i'd say it is, you made it his business when you called him an idiot.
[04:05] <Sneaky_Bastard> from Reboot ?
[04:05] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: you do not need a custom kernel to test modules
[04:05] <Sneaky_Bastard> :D
[04:05] <NEURAL_NET> i do not like compile the kernel every time that i must try something about one support
[04:06] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: if you are using a custom kernel, you don't need an initrd
[04:06] <ElitePete> intelikey, i called him an idiot, so it's his business what age i am?
[04:06] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: so you're potentially doubly wasting your time
[04:06] <ElitePete> what kind of logic is that?
[04:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> I'm 500 years old
[04:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> (dog years)
[04:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> :p
[04:06] <intelikey> ElitePete mature logic.
[04:06] <Agrajag> what's your secret?
[04:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> actually, I'm 46
[04:06] <Madpilot> ElitePete: when people act immature, it's natural to wonder how old they are...
[04:06] <SCMark> bob2: you can use both
[04:06] <NEURAL_NET> now i want to make that
[04:06] <Sneaky_Bastard> and I predate personal computers
[04:06] <SCMark> bob2: It won't hurt
[04:06] <ElitePete> ill try to remember that... thanks
[04:06] <NEURAL_NET> after i can do another thing
[04:06] <bob2> SCMark: yes, but it's tedious and more complicated than either other option
[04:07] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: ok, you appear to be too confused to help, so good luck
[04:07] <NEURAL_NET> e i can learn another thing
[04:07] <NEURAL_NET> :)
[04:07] <merly> any reason why 64 bit install should be significantly slower than 32 bit?
[04:07] <SCMark> bob2: yeah, but if you've got the time then it's a learning experience
[04:07] <bob2> merly: e.g.?
[04:08] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: then, first of all, make a kernel that boots
[04:08] <PHR023N> hell it's raining outside though... wonder why its so hot in here :)
[04:08] <bob2> NEURAL_NET: without an initrd
[04:08] <ajmitch> SCMark: plenty of things are learning experiences, not all of them good :)
[04:08] <leandro> alguien habla espaol, necesito ayuda
[04:08] <Vespoli> o.-
[04:08] <Agrajag> !es
[04:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:08] <_jason> !es
[04:08] <ElitePete> si hablas espanol
[04:08] <leandro> ok
[04:09] <Vespoli> adios :P
[04:09] <ElitePete> adios mi amigo
[04:09] <Vespoli> ;)
[04:09] <ElitePete> hasta luego.
[04:09] <Vespoli> ok, I removed xmms and installed xmms-flac, but now it says I have broken packages :o
[04:09] <_jason> I think ubotu should automatically respond to spanish words, that would be nice... he's blootbot right?
[04:09] <Vespoli> how can I "resolve" my dependencies without doing anything ?
[04:10] <Vespoli> apt-get -f install is telling me to install xmms
[04:10] <Vespoli> which I compiled myself
[04:10] <owner989> in synaptic you can tell it to fix broken packages
[04:10] <NEURAL_NET> bob2,  is not first time that i make a kernel
[04:10] <Vespoli> yeah, by installing the binary crap XMMS over my custom build :P )
[04:10] <ElitePete> anyone here use kubuntu, i was curious what the difference is between kubuntu and ubuntu
[04:10] <Agrajag> Vespoli: uh, no
[04:10] <Vespoli> hmm
[04:10] <NEURAL_NET> the peoplee thing to much
[04:10] <Vespoli> ok thanks
[04:10] <NEURAL_NET> and no good
[04:11] <owner989> xubuntu is great
[04:11] <Agrajag> if you built it and installed it normally it'd go into /usr/local/ and goddamn it he left
[04:11] <SCMark> ajmitch: yeah.  But that person will learn better from trying it than from me telling them
[04:13] <jackhong> bob2, gksudo is working now!!!
[04:13] <jackhong> bob2, the problem is actually pam_mount
[04:13] <NanoBCN28> ElitePete, the difference is that ubuntu runs Gnome and kubuntu runs KDE
[04:13] <djk_> anyone familiar with ruby?
[04:13] <intelikey> some times the adventure is more about failed attempts to do the impossable than it is about achieving the easy
[04:14] <ElitePete> i see, i have no expreince with kde, is gnome better?
[04:14] <_jason> djk_, probably in #ruby
[04:14] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[04:14] <ubotu> e17 is much better than kde!
[04:14] <_jason> djk_, never mind i lied, #ruby-lang
[04:14] <cyphase> what's the C++ function to find the length of an array again?
[04:14] <bimberi> ElitePete: it's a matter of opinion, try them both ane make your own decision :)
[04:14] <bimberi> *and
[04:15] <j1> <--needs help with fstab to mount a new partition
[04:15] <ElitePete> bimberi i'm loving gnome so far ;-)
[04:15] <djk_> _jason: well, i was in #ruby-lang where apparently my algo is broken, neglecting that the provided solution _is_ my algo..
[04:15] <NanoBCN28> ElitePete, this is the endless discussion, let's say some people prefer gnome and some others kde
[04:15] <NanoBCN28> it's a batter of taste ElitePete
[04:15] <j1> thanks for the help before intelli and bob2
[04:15] <owner989> you can actually use both
[04:15] <ElitePete> ty nano,
[04:15] <_jason> djk_, oh :o
[04:15] <owner989> install ubuntu and then install the kubuntu desktop
[04:15] <intelikey> f1 give us the specs and what you want to accomplish
[04:15] <NanoBCN28> ElitePete, Xubuntu, instead, uses XFCE4, which is the best option for old hardware
[04:15] <ElitePete> i'
[04:15] <JonasNorman> does anyone know about bash scripting? if yes can you tell me how to allow backspace when a user types a response
[04:15] <intelikey> j1 ^
[04:15] <owner989> yeah xubuntu is great
[04:16] <ElitePete> i see nano, i have all new hardware :-)
[04:16] <djk_> _jason: yea, that was a nice introduction to that channel allright..
[04:16] <j1> hello intelli
[04:16] <intelikey> j1 give us the specs and what you want to accomplish
[04:16] <jackhong> NanoBCN28, true, i'm using xfce4+rox on my old debian box, it's fast and stable
[04:17] <basti> how can I solve so that my password will entered in the crontab that makes an apt update?
[04:17] <j1> i have created a partition, /hdb2 and made an ext3 filesystem on it.. now i want to mount it as /media/honk
[04:17] <NanoBCN28> jackhong, indeed, I'd install it in the old servers I have at home if I wanted an X
[04:17] <j1>  i made an entry in fstab, and ran mount -a but i cant write to /media/honk
[04:17] <bob2> j1: so change the permissions
[04:18] <owner989> xubuntu is actually very functional
[04:18] <intelikey> j1 maybe '/dev/hdb1 /media/honk ext3 defaults,auto 0 0 '   add that to your fstab
[04:18] <owner989> you can do everything you can in gnome
[04:18] <bob2> j1: sudo chmod 777 /media/honk
[04:18] <j1> i did chmod 777 /media/honk
[04:18] <intelikey> j1 errrr sorry hdb2 ^
[04:18] <bob2> j1: and?
[04:18] <j1> but my fstab line looks diffe3r ent than yours, let me change it and try again
[04:19] <basti> if I create a crontab with sudo, will it execute with sudo rights ?
[04:19] <bimberi> basti: put it in root's crontab (sudo crontab -e)
[04:19] <bimberi> basti: yes
[04:19] <basti> ok thx bimberi :)
[04:19] <bimberi> basti: np :)
[04:19] <NanoBCN28> well, now that bandwidth is wider it's worth it to have old pcs at home to use as dedicated servers for certain use
[04:20] <NanoBCN28> for instance, I have 2 old pcs running as server, one running mldonkey and one with apache+mysql
[04:20] <cyphase> What's the C++ function to find the length of an array again?
[04:20] <NanoBCN28> now it's time to have an icecast daemon and gnump3
[04:20] <cyphase> I haven't coded C++ for ages..
[04:21] <merly> if only wireless would work. why, why does it have to be so hard? :v)
[04:21] <Sneaky_Bastard> what the hell do you mean "find the length of an array" ?
[04:21] <Sneaky_Bastard> an array of *WHAT* ?
[04:21] <rosen> how do I make a program start when I boot my computer ? (checkgmail in this case)
[04:22] <cyphase> Sneaky_Bastard, strings
[04:22] <Sneaky_Bastard> and in C++, you would already know the length of an array, if you created it.
[04:22] <Sneaky_Bastard> strings are not "arrays" in C++
[04:22] <intelikey> rosen man initscripts
[04:22] <cyphase> i know
[04:22] <cyphase> i mean..
[04:22] <cyphase> an array of strings
[04:22] <Sneaky_Bastard> string::strlen(), I think
[04:22] <Sneaky_Bastard> an array of strings
[04:22] <cyphase> lol
[04:22] <cyphase> nvm
[04:22] <bob2> cyphase: then say, "how do I find the length of a string instance?"
[04:22] <rosen> intelikey, I'm sorry but I just installed linux today but .. where do I find those ?
[04:22] <cyphase> bob2, no, that's not what i mean
[04:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> well, say what you mean
[04:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> pastebin example please
[04:23] <cyphase> Sneaky_Bastard, i did
[04:23] <sethk> cyphase, if you mean the number of strings in your list of strings
[04:23] <cyphase> but nvm
[04:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> (of how you declared the object)
[04:23] <cyphase> sethk, yes
[04:23] <cyphase> but nvm now
[04:23] <cyphase> lol
[04:23] <sethk> cyphase, then,  sizeof (thing) / sizeof (char*)
[04:23] <cyphase> like i said..
[04:23] <sethk> cyphase, it's a list of pointers
[04:23] <bob2> ugh
[04:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> sethk: not for C++ strings
[04:23] <cyphase> i haven't coded C++ for ages
[04:23] <bob2> holy god
[04:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> he specified C++ strings
[04:23] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, we aren't talking about c++ strings
[04:23] <bob2> do not arrays as lists in C++
[04:23] <cyphase> forget it!
[04:23] <cyphase> lol
[04:23] <bob2> or char* as strings
[04:23] <cyphase> i got it
[04:23] <NEURAL_NET> sizeof(char*) == 4
[04:23] <NEURAL_NET> :P
[04:23] <cyphase> it's fixed
[04:23] <cyphase> over
[04:23] <cyphase> go back to sleep
[04:23] <Sneaky_Bastard> which are not arrays of char pointers
[04:24] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, no, he showed the initialization before, it was not c++ strings.
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> trust me
[04:24] <j1> bob2/intellikink that worked, thanks
[04:24] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, there is no reason you can't use c strings in c++ programs.
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> well, then it's C API
[04:24] <jackal24> can someone please help me with this "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found" when i try to modprobe
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> so WTF is he asking about C++ API ?
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> jeezus
[04:24] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, not an API at all.  It's a feature of the language.  :)
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> don't people speak English ?
[04:24] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, I spek it real goodly
[04:24] <steve_laptop> no
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> he said "string" and "C++"
[04:24] <cyphase> omg
[04:24] <intelikey> rosen /etc/init.d/     write a script to start your app and stick it in there chmoded to 700   and you really should read the man page    man initscripts   if it exists,  also   man update-rc.d    i think
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> those are not C arrays of Char
[04:24] <leandro> who can speak spanish and help me?
[04:24] <Sneaky_Bastard> they ain't
[04:25] <Sneaky_Bastard> >:(
[04:25] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, actually, you aren't correct there.  The strings you are talking about are standard library functions, and not part of the language at all.
[04:25] <steven__> is anyone here using wlassistant... for there wifi?
[04:25] <rosen> intelikey, ok that's way out of my league ... I'll wait untill I got a better grasp of what I'm doing
[04:25] <Sneaky_Bastard> C++ strings aren't part of the language
[04:25] <jackal24> steven__, i might if i got my wireless to work :)
[04:25] <Sneaky_Bastard> and I'm not the one who said they are
[04:25] <Kuyaedz> I'm running Breezy 5.10 as a webhost but my cron jobs aren't running (only seem to work manually).  Any tips?
[04:25] <Sneaky_Bastard> >:(
[04:26] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, ok, lot's of stuff flying by here.  :)
[04:26] <intelikey> rosen    in a terminal    type        man man
[04:26] <jackal24> can someone please tell me why modprobe can't find ndiswrapper?
[04:26] <steven__> jackal24, have you useded it yet?
[04:26] <intelikey> rosen the manual pages are your friend.
[04:26] <jackal24> steven__, useded?
[04:26] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, but as c++ is (well, technically it isn't, but for all intents and purposes it is) a superset of C, any c language feature is also a c++ language feature.
[04:26] <bob2> jackal24: can you find ndiswrapper?
[04:26] <jackal24> bob2, yes
[04:26] <Sneaky_Bastard> people who mix C and C++ in the same module need to be stabbed, shot, hung, disembowled, beheaded and THEN killed.
[04:26] <Sneaky_Bastard> >:(
[04:26] <bob2> Kuyaedz: read your logs and see what happened
[04:26] <Sneaky_Bastard> sorry
[04:26] <rosen> oooh nice .. thanks alot intelikey
[04:27] <steven__> Whats this and how do I fix it? --- checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:27] <fulld> during install, ubuntu detected an MD array
[04:27] <jackal24> bob2, but i don't know what to do next
[04:27] <bob2> jackal24: and it's in the right place in /lib/?
[04:27] <bob2> steven__: what are you trying to compile?
[04:27] <Kuyaedz> bob2: the syslog & messages log (/var/log/) both seem to be fine.. it just seems like they AREN'T being run at all.
[04:27] <fulld> i didn't want it to manage my array
[04:27] <steven__> wlassistant
[04:27] <steven__> bob2,
[04:27] <drapelyk> anyone, how do I move a directory and all of it's contents?
[04:27] <intelikey> bob2 dose default ub have a gui app for adding startup commands ?    if so point rosen tword it please.
[04:27] <fulld> so I deleted the array from the list
[04:27] <DeezNuts> sethk: Thanks for your help with fstab...I was able to get it working for me!
[04:27] <bob2> steven__: install xlibs-dev and build-essential
[04:27] <bob2> intelikey: good luck
[04:28] <fulld> and it actually cleared something on my first md drive
[04:28] <steven__> ok
[04:28] <bob2> drapelyk: mv...
[04:28] <steven__> thanks
[04:28] <fulld> how do I find out exactly what happened so I can fix it?
[04:28] <sethk> DeezNuts, great
[04:28] <jackal24> bob2, the ko file is in /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.1/driver/
[04:28] <drapelyk> bob2, that will move the files I want a copy
[04:28] <bob2> Kuyaedz: is cron running at all?
[04:28] <intelikey> bob2 i take it that is a NO   :)
[04:28] <bob2> jackal24: ...
[04:28] <sethk> Sneaky_Bastard, not that I would ever quibble, or anything.  :)
[04:28] <bob2> jackal24: the ndiswrapper module is in ubuntu already, use that
[04:28] <bob2> drapelyk: 14:27:36       drapelyk |  anyone, how do I move a directory and all of it's contents?
[04:28] <bob2> drapelyk: is that not actually what you meant hen?
[04:28] <drapelyk> bob2, lol, sorry
[04:29] <drapelyk> bob2 copy
[04:29] <bob2> drapelyk: cp -a, probably
[04:29] <drapelyk> k
[04:29] <Kuyaedz> bob2: didn't think of that.. just did an /etc/init.d/cron restart.  we'll see if its run in the morning, thanks
[04:29] <jackal24> bob2, i don't know how. i was having problems with getting my wifi to work, so i read in a forum to delete ndiswrapper and reinstall it
[04:29] <bob2> jackal24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:29] <bob2> jackal24: ignore anything you read on the forums unless someone with clue outside the forums says it is correct
[04:29] <jackal24> bob2, i followed that whole wiki and it didn't work
[04:29] <intelikey> drapelyk man cp
[04:30] <bob2> jackal24: "didn't work" is not a useful description of the problem
[04:30] <jackal24> bob2, i could get ndiswrapper to install bcmwl5. The card showed in the network settings dialog and even showed the APs, but wouldn't connect...
[04:31] <bob2> jackal24: ignore the network settings dialog
[04:31] <jackal24> bob2, the light for the card won't light up
[04:31] <bob2> that sounds like the driver isn't working
[04:31] <bob2> what did dmesg say/
[04:31] <jackal24> dmesg?
[04:31] <basti> is it safe to delete files in /var/log ?
[04:31] <Kuyaedz> I found that you have to be VERY specific in your drivers for ndiswrapper & Breezy
[04:31] <bob2> basti: usually, but it's not likely to be a lot of space
[04:32] <basti> bob2, just wanted to know ;) thx
[04:32] <intelikey> basti files yes  dirs no.
[04:32] <koharski> can someone help me solve this:
[04:32] <koharski> (II) VESA(1): initializing int10
[04:32] <koharski> (EE) VESA(1): shmget(lowmem) error: Invalid argument
[04:32] <basti> intelikey,  hmm ok :(
[04:32] <koharski> it's from my XORG log
[04:32] <jackal24> bob2, what am i looking for in dmesg?
[04:32] <cyphase> Who's nVidia card is working with 3D?
[04:32] <mustard5> jackal24, relevant error messages I would say
[04:32] <bob2> koharski: why are you using vesa?
[04:32] <cyphase> quick poll :)
[04:33] <bob2> cyphase: lots of people's
[04:33] <Kuyaedz> jackal24: you would want to look for any errors or the chipset of the card
[04:33] <koharski> cause it's an old Mach 64, for my second monitor
[04:33] <cyphase> bob2, yea
[04:33] <cyphase> mostly..
[04:33] <cyphase> me not being one of them :(
[04:33] <WhyvasLT> holy shit that survivor girl is hot
[04:33] <mustard5> jackal24, you ever used the pastebin?
[04:33] <jackal24> i think i am going to try and reload breezy from the beginning and start over
[04:34] <mustard5> heh
[04:34] <intelikey> basti if you did blank /var/log  and things start erroring out on you watch the error messages for 'can not write to or creat <blah>'   and make the dirs in /var/log that it is trying to make files in.
[04:34] <steve_laptop> compiling sucks next problem is - -  Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:34] <steve_laptop> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:34] <bob2> deleting directories from /var/log is a bad idea
[04:34] <bob2> steve_laptop: surely you can guess what the problem is?
[04:34] <ElitePete> i forget, can anyone tell me what the cmd is to download a file via ssh ?
[04:34] <steve_laptop> new bee :)
[04:35] <intelikey> deleting /var is a 'never do this' itom
[04:35] <bob2> steve_laptop: it can't find the qt library
[04:35] <basti> ok. thans for the info intelikey . I restarted the service too just in case :)
[04:35] <CuriousCat> how do i stop samba from sharing my home directory?
[04:35] <bob2> steve_laptop: so install libqt3-mt-dev
[04:35] <bob2> CuriousCat: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:35] <steve_laptop> ic
[04:35] <steve_laptop> thanks
[04:35] <Kuyaedz> ElitePete: is this just within your local network?
[04:35] <CuriousCat> bob2: under homes browseable is already set to "no" and writable is also set to "no"
[04:36] <ElitePete> Kyuaedz i installed open ssh on this pc. i just want to get a text file from this pc via a remote xp machine using putty,
[04:36] <bob2> CuriousCat: so remove the block entirely
[04:36] <CuriousCat> bob2: did that as well. nothing.
[04:36] <koharski> I'll explain my problem in full. I have breezy set up with xubuntu-desktop installed (server install). I started setting up a dual monitor system and my second graphics card is using the vesa driver. When I startx it loads on one monitor and the VESA just crashes with:
[04:36] <koharski> (II) VESA(1): initializing int10
[04:36] <koharski> (EE) VESA(1): shmget(lowmem) error: Invalid argument
[04:36] <bimberi> CuriousCat: did you restart samba?
[04:36] <Kuyaedz> Ooh, using OpenSSH you should have an SSH terminal client & an SSH Transfer client.  Do you have both?
[04:37] <steve_laptop> bob2, thanks alot
[04:37] <ElitePete> kuyaedz i donot know
[04:37] <CuriousCat> bimberi: how do i do that?
[04:37] <merly> hmm. someone else was having problems with rt2500 earlier, right? is there an easy fix? the wiki page says it works "out of the box"
[04:37] <bob2> CuriousCat: the share exists even when you removed all references to it from smb.conf?
[04:37] <benplaut> !repos
[04:37] <ubotu> I guess repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:37] <psycode> i'm trying to compile a driver, and it fails because i'm missing /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build - how do i get the build file in there?
[04:37] <bimberi> CuriousCat: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[04:37] <koharski> so nobody can help me?
[04:37] <koharski> maybe my problem is fopr the forums
[04:37] <acahghi> tester
[04:38] <ElitePete> kuyaedz how do i find out?
[04:38] <acahghi> iloveyou
[04:38] <koharski> ?
[04:38] <koharski> I live you too, asfhka
[04:38] <acahghi> why?
[04:38] <merly> !rt2500
[04:38] <ubotu> merly: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:38] <acahghi> no
[04:38] <koharski> bah, fuck this
[04:38] <CuriousCat> bimberi: That did it. Thanks! :)
[04:38] <sethk> koharski, that's somewhat unusual.  The configuration is seriously messed up.  I haven't done it that way
[04:39] <sethk> man, people are so patient today.
[04:39] <bimberi> CuriousCat: np :)
[04:39] <mustard5> seth_k, yeah :)
[04:39] <intelikey> aint they
[04:39] <mustard5> seth_k, one would think he could have waited a little longer :)
[04:39] <acahghi> hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:40] <sethk> mustard5, if they can't wait a few minutes, they won't do very well with linux anyway
[04:40] <mustard5> acahghi, are you after support for your ubuntu install?
[04:40] <ryanh> Hello again... I was wondering if someone could step me through this. I'm attempting to configure a dual-boot system over three different hard drives, two of which are utilizing RAID 0. The raid hard drives are already in use as the Windows partition, and there is an ATA hard drive with a backup partition and 37.1GB of free space...
[04:40] <mustard5> seth_k, thats my thoughts too ;)
[04:40] <ryanh> Now, I'd like to get this working without erasing the RAID array.
[04:41] <acahghi> pls.................chat me up...
[04:41] <ryanh> Will "Configure software RAID" possibly mess anything up?
[04:41] <seth_k> mustard5, it's sethk you want, not me.
[04:41] <mustard5> seth_k, ah sorry!
[04:41] <seth_k> no worries
[04:41] <j1> where can i go for crazychat
[04:41] <fdelacruz> gudmorning guys
[04:41] <mustard5> j1, anywhere else but here :)
[04:42] <j1> yeah, i guess so
[04:42] <bimberi> j1: "/query acahghi" it would seem
[04:42] <sethk> ryanh, just tell ubuntu not to use those drives at all.
[04:42] <mustard5> j1, this is a technical support channel
[04:42] <fdelacruz> anyone already or experienced in management of firestarter?
[04:42] <j1> oh
[04:42] <ryanh> sethk: I want the bootloader to run things off of those drives
[04:42] <intelikey> j1 #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <acahghi> i dont know....im new user
[04:42] <j1> ok
[04:42] <sethk> ryanh, be very very very careful about that.  Install the bootloader later, manually
[04:43] <j1> thanks for all the tech support, i'm running fine here!
[04:43] <acahghi> hi jl
[04:43] <intelikey> welcome
[04:43] <ryanh> sethk: This is going to be very painful, isn't it?
[04:43] <mustard5> j1, you on ubuntu are you?
[04:43] <j1> hello acahghioul
[04:43] <j1> yes mustard
[04:43] <j1> a breezy beaver install
[04:43] <j1> that now runs kde3.5
[04:43] <sethk> ryanh, no, not really, just risky.  Back up the MBR on the raid drive before doing anything at all
[04:44] <acahghi> hi jl i dontr know how to use it chatroom
[04:44] <mustard5> acahghi, there is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel and a #ubuntuforums channel for anything goes type chat
[04:44] <sethk> ryanh, I don't really know the windows side terribly well
[04:44] <optish> anyone here have firestarter and dnsmasq working for dhcp?
[04:44] <j1> aca, ASL?
[04:44] <acahghi> ] chat
[04:44] <mustard5> acahghi, in here is 'strictly support stuff' for the most part
[04:44] <ryanh> sethk: Okay... Is most of this on the wiki>
[04:45] <acahghi> jl...21 M phils.
[04:45] <acahghi> about you jl?
[04:45] <j1> 59 m texas
[04:45] <mustard5> acahghi, and j1 can you take it to another channel plz?
[04:45] <j1> sorry mustard
[04:45] <j1> okey
[04:45] <j1> thanks again for the help
[04:46] <optish> okay how about anyone here using firestarter with dhcp for the lan?
[04:46] <j1> ubuntu rocks, i can't wait to get my free CD's to spread around
[04:46] <mustard5> j1, thats ok..if you have technical issues this the right channel to come to :)
[04:46] <acahghi> hi ogra!!!
[04:46] <fdelacruz> firestarter user?
[04:47] <tristan_> I'm having trouble running any kind of 3D applications or games in GDE, the rendering, even on the lowest quality, is terrible and so slow that it's unplayable
[04:47] <mustard5> acahghi, can you go to one of the offtopic channels please?  This is not a channel for idle chit-chat. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:47] <acahghi> hi rozen
[04:47] <tristan_> Any suggestions?
[04:47] <Madpilot> tristan_: what brand of graphics card to you have?
[04:48] <acahghi> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:48] <tristan_> Madpilot, ATI
[04:48] <mustard5> acahghi, the command is /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:48] <Madpilot> tristan_: do you have the fglrx drivers installed?
[04:48] <tristan_> Madpilot, let me check
[04:49] <acahghi> hi
[04:49] <acahghi> hi
[04:49] <acahghi> hi
[04:49] <acahghi> hi
[04:49] <tristan_> Madpilot, I have the 'Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on 386' installed
[04:49] <acahghi> hi
[04:49] <optish> i can't figure out why firestarter wont allow dhcp connections to the ubuntu server every other connection i configure firestarter for it allows....only thing is i am using dnsmasq server in place of dhcp3-server
[04:49] <Madpilot> acahghi: stop
[04:49] <tristan_> Madpilot, but not the kernel source
[04:50] <acahghi> why?
[04:50] <mustard5> !ops
[04:50] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:50] <Madpilot> tristan_: in  terminal, run "fglrxinfo" without the ""
[04:50] <tristan_> Madpilot, will do
[04:50] <tristan_> Madpilot, the command was not found
[04:50] <ajmitch> acahghi: you were asked to stop the off-topic chat
[04:50] <mustard5> ajmitch, thanks
[04:51] <ajmitch> mustard5: I didn't even need to ban him :)
[04:51] <mustard5> ajmitch, hehehe
[04:51] <Madpilot> tristan_: what? odd
[04:51] <Madpilot> !tell tristan_ about ati
[04:51] <qt2> err, how do i know what kernel source i'm supposed to install? it's giving me a choice between linux-source-2.6.12 and 2.6.12-10.24
[04:52] <mustard5> qt2, what are you trying to do?  I don't know the context of the question
[04:52] <qt2> mustard5, recompile the kernel.
[04:53] <qt2> uname returns: 2.6.12-10-686
[04:53] <acahghi> hi
[04:53] <mustard5> acahghi, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic to join a different channel
[04:54] <qt2> mustard5, i tried apt-getting linux source and it said i had to choose one of those explicitly...
[04:54] <mustard5> qt2, hmm ok...I've never done that myself...so I don't have much idea
[04:54] <mustard5> qt2, ah ok ..you are doing it from apt-get ok
[04:55] <liam01> try it thru synaptic
[04:55] <liam01> qt2, try sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:55] <pdg> hi, does anyone have experience compiling programs with the boost libraries? The boost_regex, especifically
[04:55] <liam01> i think that might get everything
[04:55] <qt2> liam01, already did.
[04:56] <rosen> is there a firewall in the basic ubuntu installation ?
[04:56] <Madpilot> rosen: yes
[04:56] <Sneaky_Bastard> yes
[04:56] <Sneaky_Bastard> IP Tables
[04:56] <mustard5> rosen, iptables is built into the kernel..you can access it using firestarter as a frontend
[04:57] <intelikey> rosen not active by default tho
[04:57] <bimberi> qt2: install linux-tree
[04:57] <tristan_> Madpilot, I looked in my device manager, and Linux does not appear to be recognizing my ATI card
[04:57] <qt2> heh
[04:57] <Madpilot> tristan_: what model?
[04:57] <intelikey> not sure what rosen is asking....
[04:57] <rosen> it was actually firestarter I was wondering about
[04:57] <rosen> can't seem to find it
[04:58] <tristan_> Madpilot, hard to tell since it doesn't recognize it - I could find out by rebooting in XP, but I'm busy in Linux atm
[04:58] <mustard5> !info firestarter
[04:58] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB
[04:58] <tristan_> Madpilot, it's a mobile version
[04:58] <tristan_> Madpilot, any issues with laptop ATI graphics chips?
[04:58] <mustard5> rosen, according to ubotu its in the universe repository...so you may need enable that repository
[04:59] <Madpilot> tristan_: not sure; I've got an ATI 9600XT in my desktop, but no experience w/ laptops...
[04:59] <mustard5> !tell rosen about repos
[04:59] <mustard5> rosen, check for a PM from ubotu on enabling extra repositories
[04:59] <rosen> got it
[04:59] <tristan_> Madpilot, I see, let me look in the wiki, or in the forums and see if anybody has mentioned anything
[04:59] <rosen> thanks
[04:59] <rosen> ...more reading :D
[04:59] <intelikey> rosen you did notice the info on it ^  it's in universe  assuming you have 5.10
[04:59] <tristan_> Madpilot, thanks for your time!
[04:59] <mustard5> rosen, np come back if you have issues
[05:00] <Madpilot> tristan_: np
[05:00] <rosen> what does that mean exactly ... 'in universe' ?
[05:00] <Goldfish> I already have evolution running on another computer. Is there any way to run it in a client-server mode, so I can this laptop's evolution to access the other machine's downloaded emails, etc.?
[05:00] <Goldfish> !repositories
[05:00] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[05:00] <qt2> bimberi, thanks!
[05:00] <intelikey> rosen the repos inode you got in mp from ubotu should answer that.
[05:00] <qt2> bimberi, err, does that set the default kernel config options to the ubuntu defaults?
[05:00] <rosen> ah allright :)
[05:01] <rosen> intelikey, I'll shut up and read then ;)
[05:01] <Neo0019> I need help installing ubuntu on iMac G5?
[05:01] <mustard5> rosen, :)
[05:01] <eric> If i want to chmod 777 a directory which contains multiple directories and all the files in the subsequent directories what should I do
[05:01] <tristan_> Madpilot, actually, the video card is using pci-express, are there any known issues with ubunt and pci-express?
[05:01] <Kelsey23> test
[05:01] <bimberi> qt2: i don't know sorry
[05:01] <Kelsey23> ok
[05:01] <Goldfish> eric: chmod -R <--- recursive option
[05:01] <qt2> bimberi, that's fine :)
[05:01] <qt2> anyone know?
[05:02] <bimberi> qt2: if the config file is different to the one in /boot then you could possibly assume so
[05:02] <Neo0019> I'm having problem with ubuntu can someon help please
[05:02] <Neo0019> ?
[05:02] <mustard5> Neo0019, state your problem and we will know then
[05:02] <intelikey> rosen i don't mean to sound lazy(which i am) but either you read it there or i have to type it agian for you to read it here, i'm sure you understand.
[05:02] <qt2> bimberi, hm, couldnt i just copy over the one from /boot?
[05:02] <Goldfish> Neo0019: Don't use two lines without even asking a question. What do you need?
[05:02] <bimberi> qt2: sure
[05:03] <Madpilot> tristan_: no idea; I'm still using 8x AGP here
[05:03] <qt2> bimberi, any idea where i copy it to?
[05:03] <Neo0019> I'm trying to load ubuntu on an iMac G5 but I get the a white screen
[05:03] <qt2> not too experinced with kernels yet ^.^;
[05:03] <tristan_> Madpilot, ahhh :-)  looks like I'm too advanced for my own good
[05:03] <eric> Can you change ID3V tags on m4a files?
[05:04] <bimberi> qt2: sorry i can't remember.  For me it's so long since i compiled one.  Haven't needed to since using ubuntu (Oct '04) :)
[05:04] <mustard5> Neo0019, at what stage of installing are you at?
[05:04] <intelikey> Neo0019 you do have the right install cd?    not i?86 one ?
[05:04] <bimberi> qt2: perhaps some help here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[05:04] <qt2> bimberi, thanks ^.^;
[05:04] <Neo0019> I haven't install nothing yet because it just stays on the white screen
[05:04] <jrattner1> Can i change ID3V tags on m4a files
[05:05] <qt2> bimberi, i'm trying to get ubuntu working perfectly on a toshiba sattelite... ;)
[05:05] <mustard5> qt2, there are a few HOW TO's in the ubuntuforum too I think
[05:05] <Neo0019> I think so yes intelikey
[05:05] <qt2> mustard5, thanks. ;)
[05:05] <mustard5> Neo0019, where did you get it from?
[05:05] <Neo0019> from the main page
[05:06] <mustard5> Neo0019, what was it called?
[05:06] <Neo0019> ubuntulinux.org
[05:06] <tristan_> Madpilot, I found an xorg-driver-fglrx package that was not yet installed
[05:06] <mustard5> Neo0019, the file you download that is :)
[05:06] <Madpilot> tristan_: that's probably the one you need
[05:06] <tristan_> Madpilot, device drivers.... :-P
[05:06] <ardchoille> czr: You know what, MEPIS and Knoppix didn't recognise either of these memory sticks either
[05:06] <Neo0019> Mustard5 do you know what is wrong then?
[05:07] <mustard5> Neo0019, not yet...what was the file you downloaded called?
[05:07] <Madpilot> tristan_: there seems to be a sweet spot for device support w/ Linux, not too old or too new - and by pure chance, I'm right in that sweet spot; I've had no hardware troubles at all :P
[05:07] <Neo0019> ubuntu-5.10-live-powerpc.iso
[05:08] <intelikey> Neo0019 mustard5 is trying to make sure that you did get the proper install cd.   now he'll move on.
[05:08] <mustard5> Neo0019, hmm ok
[05:08] <ispiked> how can I tell what package provides a given file?
[05:08] <tristan_> Madpilot, and that's understandable when the developers are real people with real lives.  i can't expect them to just develop drivers for my hardware the day it comes out :-)  perhaps I need to do a little developing myself, haha
[05:09] <mustard5> Neo0019, ok..well we know you got the right one...my next question would be did you burn it as an ISO image or as data?
[05:09] <Goldfish> qt2: A great doc for HOWTO build custom kernels is http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
[05:09] <intelikey> ispiked man apt-cache    or man dpkg   one of them have that facility
[05:09] <mustard5> Neo0019, that is a liveCD too btw..its not the actual install disk
[05:09] <qt2> Goldfish, thanks.
[05:09] <ispiked> intelikey: thanks.
[05:09] <mustard5> Neo0019, the LiveCD is for testing and previewing ubuntu
[05:09] <Neo0019> i'm pretty sure I did as an ISO
[05:09] <Goldfish> qt2: It lets you make the kernels as .deb's that you can install with dpkg.
[05:09] <Neo0019> oh...
[05:10] <intelikey> search for whatprovides
[05:10] <Neo0019> that is the problem then
[05:10] <qt2> Goldfish, ahh, insnt the same thing at the wiki?
[05:10] <intelikey> ispiked use  /   and search for provides  in those man pages
[05:10] <mustard5> Neo0019, well its not a problem really...it should still boot up and load Ubuntu
[05:10] <Goldfish> qt2: I don't know. Maybe. Wiki has lots of good stuff in it too.
[05:10] <Okt> Anyone here able to lend a hand with getting fglrx to work with my X850?
[05:10] <optish> i'm going mad....i can't figure out why firestarter isnt allowing dhcp connections for lan connections....someone help please
[05:10] <Goldfish> !wiki make-kpkg
[05:11] <mustard5> Neo0019, the fact that you have a white screen is still a problem
[05:11] <qt2> Goldfish, <3 wiki.
[05:11] <Neo0019> What could I do to fix it?
[05:11] <mustard5> Neo0019, I think it might be worth checking to make sure you burnt it as an ISO image rather than as a data disk
[05:11] <qt2> Goldfish, unless you know a way i can just recompile the kernel to change one option without much fuss? :P
[05:11] <mustard5> Neo0019, I'm trying to think how though :)
[05:11] <Goldfish> qt2: Just one sec...
[05:12] <int7a> huh?
[05:12] <Neo0019> I used Toast 7 to burn it
[05:12] <Neo0019> and I did select ISO image
[05:12] <shanonx> is there a better mozilla firefox plugin for viewing videos, better than Mplayer? Mine seems to always be jerky.
[05:12] <ispiked> intelikey: `dpkg --search' did the trick. thanks again.
[05:12] <mustard5> Neo0019,  hmmm...ok
[05:12] <Goldfish> qt2: /boot/config-x.y.z is the set of parameters for your installed kernels. You would have to download the source kernel, and copy in that file as .config. That would be your basis for altering and building a similar, new kernel.
[05:12] <intelikey> any time ispiked
[05:12] <Neo0019> I mean would still boot up if it was burn as data?
[05:13] <qt2> Goldfish, so basically, recompile  the kernel.
[05:13] <mustard5> Neo0019, no
[05:13] <Neo0019> ok just making sure
[05:13] <Goldfish> qt2: Basically, there is no such thing as "recompiling a kernel with no fuss." make-kpkg streamlines the process a lot as the web page I linked shows. It is a good process to learn, in my opinion.
[05:13] <mustard5> Neo0019, the way you have done it is correct...burnt it as an image to the CD
[05:14] <mustard5> Neo0019, the other thing to do is to check that the download was not corrupted
[05:14] <qt2> Goldfish, heh, i'll proactice it some later... ;)
[05:14] <Neo0019> How could I do that?
[05:14] <intelikey> md5sum
[05:14] <mustard5> Neo0019, I'm just getting some links for you...brb
[05:14] <qt2> Goldfish, just want to get cpu scaling working on this toshiba.
[05:15] <Goldfish> qt2: Well, I didn't learn how to compile kernels until I actually needed to. That is the basis for everthing I have learned in Linux. When you need something, you go learn a new trick!
[05:15] <Neo0019> ok
[05:15] <mustard5> Neo0019, you would need to run an md5sum checker on the ISO
[05:15] <Goldfish> qt2: I don't really know anything about CPU scaling, but if the docs say that is a kernel thing, I guess so.
[05:15] <mustard5> Neo0019, then md5 checksum for that particular install should be on the page you downloaded it from..or linked from it
[05:16] <intelikey> Goldfish and after a few years you can jump through hoops on demand :)
[05:16] <qt2> Goldfish, i've compiled kernels before, was jsut wondering if there was a simple way to do it like everything else in ubuntu.
[05:16] <qt2> i think that'd be one of the most awesome things to have.
[05:16] <qt2> some sort of intergrated frontend tht you could go into and just check things off and reboot.
[05:16] <Goldfish> qt2: Well, make-kpkg is pretty slick, compared to the old fashioned make; make config; make dep; make this; make that; make blah.....
[05:16] <qt2> would be the ultimate in linux on the desktop. ;)
[05:17] <rosen> intelikey, yeah ofc I understand ;) ... sorry I was busy reading
[05:17] <qt2> with it being integrated like the rest of ubuntu is i mena.
[05:17] <Goldfish> qt2: Sounds like a new project for sourceforge.net, to me!
[05:17] <Goldfish> He
[05:17] <rosen> intelikey, think I'll spend a few days reading faqs and howto's before I do any major damage :P
[05:17] <Goldfish> heh
[05:17] <qt2> Goldfish, you'd essentially be completly hiding the kernel from the end user.
[05:17] <qt2> Goldfish, i think... that i'm going to try it, as my first project.
[05:18] <intelikey> np rosen, you getting the repos setup ok?
[05:18] <mustard5> Neo0019, have you ever done and md5sum check before?
[05:18] <bcl> Anyone have a simple way to get transcode and dvdrip working in 5.04? The repository appears to be broken at the moment.
[05:18] <qt2> Goldfish, now i've just gotta learn c... and gtk... and... <insert knowledge of something here>
[05:18] <Neo0019> No man i'm pretty new at all this
[05:18] <Goldfish> qt2: I was building a mythtv box and needed to turn on bttv drivers for my TV card. I also had to tinker with nvidia graphics drivers. It took awhile to get one working properly. :)
[05:18] <mustard5> Neo0019, ok..can you find one online that works for you system using google?
[05:18] <rosen> intelikey, nah still reading ... there is so many loose ends I need to get tied together
[05:18] <Goldfish> qt2: Is gtk a gnome TK thingy?
[05:19] <qt2> Goldfish, i believe so.
[05:19] <Neo0019> ok
[05:19] <rosen> intelikey, navigating the filesystem still causes problems for me .. I'm that new
[05:19] <bcl> qt2, give pyGTK a try if you don't want to jump right into C + GTK+
[05:19] <mustard5> Neo0019, try searching with md5checksum freeware or some keywords like that
[05:19] <qt2> Goldfish, pretty much all the gnome apps seem to be in gtk nowadays it seems o.O;
[05:19] <intelikey> rosen repos is no biggy     to edit the sources list use 'sudo apt-setup '  is the safest way.
[05:19] <qt2> i wonder... what's xchat's done in?
[05:19] <Neo0019> ok thanks
[05:20] <Neo0019> I'll be back with results
[05:20] <Neo0019> brb
[05:20] <Goldfish> I already played with TK in the past. Not my favorite graphics language. I have written expectk system maintenance scripts in the past.
[05:20] <bcl> qt2, looks like gtk+, it uses pango for part of its font rendering.
[05:20] <rosen> intelikey, I'll try that when I return from work ;) .... damn Ubuntu kept me up all night
[05:20] <qt2> bcl, thanks ;)
[05:21] <qt2> Goldfish, well, i really like how well xchat integrates, so looks like i'll be doing it in gtk+ ;)
[05:21] <NEURAL_NET> somebody now the major and minor number for /dev/hd ???
[05:21] <rosen> intelikey, well ubuntu and that hot brunette on Gaim :D
[05:21] <NEURAL_NET> know
[05:21] <intelikey> rosen k, good night.
[05:21] <rosen> night night :)
[05:22] <qt2> err, does anyone know how i apply the ubuntu patches? o.O;
[05:22] <NEURAL_NET>  mknod -m 666 hd X X X
[05:22] <Goldfish> I have gotten hooked on python recently. I am standing up a mediawiki site at work, and found there was a python-based setup of tools to automate pages. That is cool.
[05:22] <sambagirl> does openview work with ubuntu?
[05:23] <intelikey> Goldfish there is in perl too
[05:23] <intelikey> !info openview
[05:24] <intelikey> there doesn't seem to be a packaged binarry sambagirl, and sense i don't know what it is, i can't answer.
[05:24] <sambagirl> ok thanks i will check with hp.
[05:25] <Goldfish> I like python's mix of functional + OO programming options. I thought their stuff to be very readable. I read http://diveintopython.org.
[05:25] <qt2> err, is there a reason the kernel wants me to compile with gcc 3.4 instead of gcc 40?
[05:25] <Goldfish> sambagirl: You talking about HP Openview, element management software?
[05:25] <qt2> *4.0
[05:25] <sambagirl> yes goldfish
[05:25] <intelikey> it has been said that OO programming is almost as evil as the old dos "goto"
[05:26] <ajmitch> qt2: yes
[05:26] <qt2> ajmitch, why's that?
[05:26] <sambagirl> secondly will vista medical software work with ubuntu since it is tailored for debian?
[05:26] <ajmitch> qt2: because there were issues with it & gcc 4.0
[05:26] <bcl> Goldfish, I got hooked by ESR's article in LJ. Python is now my hammer of choice (everything looks like a nail). Clean syntax and OO features you can ignore if you want to.
[05:26] <paxmaster> hello I have a small digital camera, How could I make it work in linux
[05:27] <paxmaster> to store photo
[05:27] <hyphenated> paxmaster: plug it in
[05:27] <qt2> ajmitch, ah, okay.
[05:27] <bcl> paxmaster, does it have a USB interface?
[05:27] <intelikey> sambagirl probably.  although you may have to compile from source.
[05:27] <paxmaster> yeah it usb
[05:27] <bcl> paxmaster, try plugging it in.
[05:27] <sambagirl> ahh ok.
[05:27] <sambagirl> thanks again intelikey
[05:27] <paxmaster> i plug it in and the camera turn on
[05:28] <hyphenated> my digital camera presents itself just like a USB Storage device
[05:28] <sambagirl> here is 1 more question, since debian was distributed on the amigaone orignailly will ubuntu ppc version work on amigaone ppc?
[05:28] <Goldfish> bcl: I have played with cx_Oracle to talk to Oracle database servers, and omniORB for CORBA. Unfortunately, our app servers' IDL files weren't CORBA compliant. :(
[05:28] <Goldfish> bcl: I couldn't write a python gateway to replace the java gateway we currently have.
[05:29] <rob_> can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?  Everytime I try and do make install I get this
[05:29] <rob_> rob@ubuntu-rob:~/ndiswrapper-1.7$ sudo make install
[05:29] <rob_> sudo: make: command not found
[05:29] <intelikey> sambagirl you probably know that ub is deb based, but that does not mean debian packages will work on ubuntu,  but debian sources will.       and as for ppc i'm mac illiterate.
[05:29] <sambagirl> ok
[05:30] <paxmaster> but I can't see the device such like a usb fash drive
[05:30] <intelikey> maybe i should reword that.  the source packages will.
[05:30] <sambagirl> so in other words, you can compile the source to make binaries but you cannot guarantee binaries off the shelf will work but if you compile the source, it might work.
[05:30] <intelikey> exactly
[05:30] <sambagirl> i see
[05:31] <intelikey> well change that last clause to  will work and you got it.
[05:31] <sambagirl> ok
[05:31] <Milk_> I've run across this issue before and have never resolved it, but I've got no options in the network settings to enable windows networking after installing samba
[05:31] <Milk_> any ideas?
[05:32] <qt2> so wait..... to apply these patches.. i have to be in /usr src linux and run sudo /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.12/apply/debian?
[05:32] <NEURAL_NET> somebody know a page whit the major and minor number for all DEV
[05:32] <NEURAL_NET> ???
[05:32] <NEURAL_NET> some table
[05:32] <rob_> does anyone know why I get this error when I try to sudo make install?
[05:32] <rob_> sudo: make: command not found
[05:33] <Goldfish> rob_: locate make | grep bin
[05:33] <bcl> rob_, looks like make isn't installed.
[05:33] <intelikey> and sambagirl before starting to compile anything always check for a ubunut.deb        synaptic or  'apt-cache search blah '
[05:33] <merly[1] > well. i got the wireless working. but i still can't get the widescreen resolution . (pouty)
[05:33] <rob_> ok, how would I go about installing it?
[05:33] <sambagirl> ok intelikey
[05:33] <liquidboy> i've installed xubuntu, and now all the fonts are really small, and i'm pretty sure the coloures have gone from 24 to 16 bit
[05:33] <liquidboy> weird...
[05:34] <fede> seveas: hello, I'm running easybreezy script, it's stuck trying to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/bmp-docklet-1.3_1.3-1_i386.deb
[05:34] <fede>  from your repos, could you tell me if there's a problem with your repo? Thanks a lot!
[05:34] <Goldfish> rob_: Either use synaptic, and find project "make" or type sudo apt-get install make
[05:34] <nutterpc> hello all
[05:34] <SCMark> merly[1] : what lcd do you have?
[05:34] <intelikey> that's about all i can do for you right now.    i'll be back in a few.....
[05:34] <merly[1] > sc - its whatever came standard on my cheapo averatec. sis something or other
[05:35] <merly[1] > sc- i am booting into win to make sure i had my numbers right
[05:35] <dnB> ubotu, frostwire?
[05:35] <ubotu> No idea, dnB
[05:35] <dnB> hrmf.
[05:35] <dnB> can someone lemme know how to install frostwire?
[05:35] <SCMark> merly[1] : in order to get widescreen support on my Dell 2005fpw I had to include extra lines in my xorg.conf file
[05:35] <merly> sc - is that your webpage about this stuff? because i read a page along those lines.
[05:35] <merly> :v)
[05:36] <liquidboy> i've increased the text size, and everything expcept the text in this chat room (the names along the side are ok) is small
[05:36] <liquidboy> what am i doing wrong?
[05:36] <merly> perhaps it would help if i put 1280 x 800 instead of 1200 x 800, eh?
[05:37] <SCMark> probably
[05:37] <SCMark> not my webpage tho
[05:37] <Goldfish> liquidboy: What resolution are you running?
[05:37] <steve_laptop> ok im lossing it grrr I need my wireless, but everything keeps failing after ./configure grrrrrr
[05:37] <merly> scmark did you ahve to know your refresh rate?
[05:37] <merly> scmark - becaues i don't know how to find that out
[05:38] <Siph0n> neone ever heard of IglooFTP here?
[05:38] <disposable_mike> Siph0n: i have
[05:38] <liquidboy> goldfish 1024*768
[05:38] <liquidboy> at 60hz
[05:38] <Siph0n> disposable_mike, u ever use it?
[05:38] <Goldfish> liquidboy: Hmm...same thing I have. Everything is big on my system, the way I like it.
[05:38] <ajmitch> ah, f-spot 0.1.4, fun
[05:39] <merly> scmark will you remind me where i can find xorg.conf?
[05:39] <disposable_mike> Siph0n: briefly
[05:39] <liquidboy> goldfish, i've increased the text size, and it works, except for the text in this chat room and for firefox
[05:39] <SCMark> merly: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:39] <Kuyaedz> merly: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:39] <SCMark> merly: make a backup before editing it though
[05:39] <Madpilot> liquidboy: Firefox uses it's own font settings
[05:39] <disposable_mike> Siph0n: i believe that it was under windows at the time, however
[05:40] <Okt> I am getting the error "[fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!" and when I run "fglrxconfig" it isn't detecting my GPU. Any suggestions?
[05:40] <quacker> heh, Madpilot, stoner, yer back
[05:40] <merly> stupid, stupid wireless.
[05:40] <Siph0n> disposable_mike, oh ok... cause i like it :) but i asked if neone knew of any ide ftp clients before and no one mentioned it :)
[05:40] <SCMark> merly:  and make sure you are comfortable with the command line because if something doesn't work, that's what you will be left with
[05:40] <merly> oh, oh, how i hate you.
[05:40] <liquidboy> nadpilot, why does it work fine in gnome, (and fluxbox) but changes for xfce?
[05:40] <nutterpc> my god, whoever thought solving one of those brainbending issues could be so relieving :)
[05:41] <Madpilot> liquidboy: no idea, I don't use Firefox regularly... and getting my nick right works better, btw :P
[05:41] <sambagirl> nad pilot ;D
[05:41] <sambagirl> lol
[05:42] <liquidboy> nadpilot, heh, i couldnt see it properly :S
[05:42] <liquidboy> too small
[05:42] <navarone> lol
[05:42] <sambagirl> i had same problem liquidboy
[05:42] <liquidboy> sambagirl, did you fix it? how?
[05:42] <sambagirl> change your desktop to a readable thing.
[05:42] <disposable_mike> Siph0n: are you talking under ubuntu? i use gFTP without issue under Ubuntu
[05:42] <sambagirl> i changed to 800X600 and then i change the settings for font size in the various applications.
[05:43] <Siph0n> disposable_mike, yea ubuntu... lol i tryed gFTP, but EVERY time i try and upload or download a file in ftp mode it just closes
[05:43] <sambagirl> works for everything but Gaim
[05:43] <sambagirl> and they dont help you in that channel ;)
[05:43] <Siph0n> disposable_mike, i can upload/download fine in ssh mode tho....
[05:43] <disposable_mike> Siph0n: have you messed with the configs? some servers are picky about passive/active and ascii/binary
[05:43] <Siph0n> disposable_mike, ill try later :) thanx for the info
[05:44] <merly> scmark - ok done. now to i reboot?
[05:44] <merly> or can i just exit out of x and restart x?
[05:44] <disposable_mike> Siph0n: sure
[05:44] <htet> samba as in brasil or samba as in linux file system for windows ?
[05:44] <htet> :D
[05:44] <Siph0n> but still my dvds write slow :( neone know of a different dvd burner other than k3b?
[05:45] <htet> Nero
[05:45] <SCMark> merly: yep.  And if it doesn't work then use your backup.  You can restart X with /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:45] <Siph0n> htet: for ubuntu?
[05:45] <htet> http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
[05:45] <SCMark> merly:  that restarts x without having to totally reboot your system
[05:46] <SCMark> merly:  but it will close all your gnome applications (since X11 stopped)
[05:46] <SCMark> merly:  you will have to use sudo
[05:46] <intelikey> cdrecord ?
[05:46] <merly> hrmm... looks ok so far....
[05:46] !lilo:*! that was a small regional server, affected users, about 250
[05:47] <merly> we have 1280 x 800!!!
[05:47] <merly> w00t
[05:47] <htet> Siph0n: I haven'tt tried it yet. you need to try it yourself
[05:47] <navarone> that's an odd resolution? laptop?
[05:47] <merly> and wireless.
[05:47] <merly> but, i don't think the wireless will come up right at boot time.
[05:47] <merly> i still have to do iwconfig ra0 key 1304873487214
[05:48] <merly> whatever
[05:48] <merly> thank you so much!
[05:48] <merly> this is ever so much better
[05:48] <SCMark> htet: use k3b
[05:48] <Goldfish> Don't tell me you just dumped your key out in a public IRC channel.
[05:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> merly: not to bright
[05:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> too
[05:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> make a new key now
[05:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> NOW
[05:48] <SCMark> merly: the correct X11 conf is always better than the incorrect one
[05:48] <Goldfish> I'm ready to hack a wireless network now!
[05:48] <intelikey> is that standard widescreen rez ?   1200x800
[05:49] <Goldfish> Is this channel logged?
[05:49] <htet> SCMark: Thanks, but siph0n said it is slow.
[05:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> 1200 x 800 ? no way
[05:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> 1024 x 768
[05:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> 800 x 600
[05:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> 1280 x 1024
[05:50] <owner989> 1280 x 1024 is good
[05:50] <htet> <--- never tried burning on linux before.
[05:50] <merly> inteli - i think rich people get even bigger than 1280
[05:50] <SCMark> htet: yeah.  it's a kde app so the gnome equivalent will probably be better.  My roomate was yelling at me to write it
[05:50] <NEURAL_NET> yeeess
[05:50] <NEURAL_NET> i'm a geniuuus
[05:50] <intelikey> Sneaky_Bastard that's not wide screen.
[05:50] <NEURAL_NET> the device files is created
[05:50] <NEURAL_NET> :P
[05:50] <Siph0n> htet: k thanx... yea im not sure if its softare, or dvds, or the burner it self...
[05:50] <Siph0n> i never tryed this burner in windows before...
[05:50] <merly> so. does gnome do a nifty right-click-menu thing if i know how?
[05:50] <Goldfish> 1280x800 is the next 4:3 increment above 1024x768.
[05:51] <htet> <----will give a try to both k3b and nero, just bought Plexter PX 740A!!!!!
[05:51] <NEURAL_NET> what do you need to burn???
[05:51] <NEURAL_NET> CD-ISO
[05:51] <NEURAL_NET> ???
[05:52] <benplaut> yo... what are your favorite linux new sites?
[05:52] <Siph0n> ubuntuforums.org :)
[05:52] <benplaut> just freed up a bunch of space on google.com/ig, i need more feeds :P
[05:52] <benplaut> Siph0n: i've always got a tab open for that, anyway :P
[05:52] <phate> Is there way to share an internet connection? or possibly make a network bridge?
[05:52] <Siph0n> k :)
[05:53] <Siph0n> i seen sometin somwhere phate, so probally yes i just dont know how :)
[05:54] <intelikey> ah 1920x1200 is what i was thinking of i guess.
[05:57] <Okt> I am getting the error "[fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!" and when I run "fglrxconfig" it isn't detecting my GPU. Any suggestions?
[05:59] <intelikey> wide screen is  16:9  not  4:3  ?
[05:59] <Toma-> correct
[06:00] <intelikey> ok then what is default rez on wide screen ?
[06:00] <deflux-> Hi all, I self compiled apache2 (I needed some stuff configured differently than the one available in the repositories).  When trying to start, I see (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80, however, netstat doesn't show anything listening on that port...
[06:00] <student> \j zamboanga
[06:00] <deflux-> Is there anything going on with ubuntu that I don't know about?  (I'm a FreeBSD user, so this is new to me)
[06:01] <intelikey> student  /j
[06:01] <student> hello
[06:01] <student> thanks
[06:01] <sambagirl> test
[06:01] <intelikey> wb sambagirl
[06:01] <johnw> is there a way to write to an NTFS partition?
[06:02] <student> how much space does ubuntu needs to be install? anybody?
[06:02] <johnw> I know how to mount them, but they are read-only
[06:02] <NEURAL_NET> echo "#!/bin/sh" > ./initrc
[06:02] <deflux-> johnw: My understanding is that they're read-only.
[06:02] <sambagirl> thanks intelikey
[06:02] <NEURAL_NET> why that command write nothing into initrc
[06:02] <deflux-> actually.
[06:02] <NEURAL_NET> ???
[06:02] <fizdev> johnw: there's a program that lets you do it, but it is not recommended
[06:02] <deflux-> I hear that there is experimental write.
[06:02] <deflux-> But I wouldn't suggest using it.
[06:03] <intelikey> student server install is about 300m  full default install about 1.4g
[06:03] <NEURAL_NET> echo "#!/bin/sh" > ./initrc   <[06:03] <deflux-> johnw: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[06:03] <student> how about a default install
[06:03] <NEURAL_NET> why
[06:03] <intelikey> student to leave room to add apps and maybe dl a few things i recomend at least 5g
[06:04] <johnw> deflux: linux-ntfs.org is linux on an ntfs disk right?
[06:04] <student> but i only have 2g can i still install ubuntu?
[06:04] <Toma-> NEURAL_NET: try getting rid of ./
[06:04] <deflux-> johnw: No.
[06:04] <deflux-> It's a replacement ntfs driver.
[06:04] <intelikey> see eariler student ^
[06:04] <mustard5> student, thats a little tight..only 2gb
[06:04] <sambagirl> student you can use the livecd
[06:04] <bnicodemus> Anyone know the boot parameter to force Ubuntu to boot into runlevel 1, i.e. to not try and load X? I'm trying to fix an X problem and my system keeps hanging. I can't even get to a boot prompt. thanks.
[06:05] <student> thanks guys
[06:05] <intelikey> mustard5 default is 1.4
[06:05] <mustard5> intelikey, k
[06:05] <mustard5> intelikey, not much room to play with after :)
[06:06] <intelikey> if you are used to that small of an hd it is lots of room.
[06:06] <intelikey> 600m
[06:06] <mustard5> yeah
[06:06] <mustard5> intelikey, my daughter has a 3gb drive and she runs ubuntu
[06:07] <intelikey> i had ub installed on a p133 with 600m hdd
[06:07] <mustard5> :)
[06:07] <intelikey> 64m ram and no swap
[06:07] <deflux-> wtf
[06:07] <fizdev> omg... I suppose you didn't have x?
[06:08] <intelikey> yes i did
[06:08] <irc> nirc test
[06:08] <intelikey> not gnome
[06:08] <fizdev> lol
[06:08] <ElitePete> intelikey i wouldn't want to be that pc
[06:08] <ElitePete> ;-0
[06:08] <intelikey> fluxbox
[06:08] <mustard5> irc, we see you :)
[06:08] <irc> hmm better get a better username....
[06:08] <irc> it's chaumurky I'm just trying to get my head around 'nirc'
[06:09] <navarone> is nirc a client?
[06:09] <irc> ncurses based. I can ssh to my box from work and run this in the console ;-)
[06:09] <intelikey> bx like
[06:10] <intelikey> only bx is tlc based
[06:10] <defendguin> any word on firefox 1.5 for breezy?
[06:10] <irc> no I think
[06:10] <bimberi> !firefox15
[06:10] <ubotu> somebody said firefox15 was see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[06:11] <NEURAL_NET> root@host:/home/user/inird-root# echo "#!/bin/sh" > ./initrc
[06:11] <NEURAL_NET> bash: !/bin/sh" > ./initrc: event not found
[06:11] <intelikey> single quote
[06:12] <ElitePete> hm
[06:12] <intelikey> forget something ?
[06:13] <ElitePete> nope
[06:14] <chaumurky> nirc test
[06:14] <chaumurky> w))t
[06:14] <chaumurky> haha
[06:14] <chaumurky> now to save the profile...
[06:15] <intelikey>  /help
[06:16] <ElitePete> it's weird, ssh'ing into your own machine and running irssi
[06:17] <intelikey> yeah some people like irssi
[06:17] <ElitePete> yea, i don't
[06:17] <ElitePete> back to xcha
[06:17] <ElitePete> t
[06:17] <intelikey> me either but i use bx
[06:17] <timsath> can anyone help me with something simple...
[06:17] <timsath> for some reason my ps/2 mouse wont work after i installed ubuntu
[06:17] <timsath> i searched the forums, but I can't find anything helpful
[06:18] <mustard5> timsath, what type of ps2 mouse?
[06:18] <timsath> i have a thinkpad 600E
[06:18] <timsath> GE
[06:18] <timsath> optical one
[06:18] <timsath> i didnt have any issues with it in gentoo or bsd
[06:18] <ElitePete> i do have a question, i can't seem to open links automatically anymore with firefox, what could be wrong?
[06:18] <frogzoo> timsath: couple of places to look - /var/log/messages & /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:18] <timsath> yeah im in xorg.conf right now
[06:18] <timsath> hmm
[06:18] <timsath> the cursor is there
[06:19] <optish> what policy do i add to firestarter for it to allow dhcp request from the lan to dnsmasq's dhcp server?
[06:19] <timsath> but it wont move, lol
[06:19] <frogzoo> timsath: right driver?
[06:19] <timsath> thats what im unsure about
[06:19] <timsath> how do i check the drivers?
[06:19] <intelikey> maybe 'od /dev/psaux '   and move the mouse, see if it outputs anything.
[06:19] <timsath> aiight ill try that
[06:19] <frogzoo> check /var/log/messages mebbe grep -i ps2 /var/log/messages
[06:19] <timsath> holy crap my x server just crapped
[06:20] <steve_laptop> ouch
[06:20] <linux_n00b_e> hello!
[06:20] <ElitePete> i do have a question, i can't seem to open links automatically anymore with firefox, what could be wrong?
[06:21] <frogzoo> ElitePete: what changed?
[06:21] <linux_n00b_e> I have a quick, embarrasing question....
[06:21] <mustard5> ElitePete, what do you mean by automatically?
[06:21] <intelikey> changed the settings didntya
[06:21] <frogzoo> linux_n00b_e: no prelims please - just ask your question
[06:21] <ElitePete> frogzoo installed firefox 1.5, i mean automatically like "open with webbrowser"
[06:21] <linux_n00b_e> How do I quit applications from running from the console?
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: Ctrl-C
[06:21] <timsath> wow my computer is going nuts
[06:21] <timsath> i have no idea what i did
[06:21] <frogzoo> ElitePete: ur on your own - ubuntu's supported browser is 1.0.7
[06:21] <rob_p> optish:  I think inbound UDP port 67, outbound UDP port 68 (or the other way around - can't remember for sure!).
[06:21] <timsath> my x server keeps crashing o_O
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e: For ones you started there.
[06:21] <timsath> sigh
[06:22] <timsath> reboot time
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> linux_n00b_e, or did you mean their launchers are referencing the console?
[06:22] <linux_n00b_e> Ok, I can't use that. I started a karamba that doesn't seem to be working correctly and I don't see a button for it on my kicker so I wanted to quit it to see what was wrong.
[06:23] <Fr0Gs> i have made a samba domain for windowsnt sometimes when i log off and relog back on i get this square box popup saying cant write C:\documents & settings\lan\forggy.xml to \\ubuntu\profiles\lan\forggy.xml File may be in use how can i make it force overwrite?
[06:24] <linux_n00b_e> I started it using the utilities section of my K menu..
[06:24] <intelikey> timsath sounds like a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg '  is in order.
[06:24] <linux_n00b_e> so now I want to stop it from running, but i don't see a button for it so I'm trying to figure out who to stop it....
[06:24] <navarone> would I find ncurses headers in libncurses-dev?
[06:25] <timsath> ok
[06:25] <timsath> intelikey
[06:25] <timsath> run that command?
[06:25] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e in a terminal 'pkillall <app> '
[06:25] <linux_n00b_e> oh, thanks!
[06:26] <intelikey> timsath that command yes will let you reconfigure your xwindow system, including the mouse.
[06:26] <Hobbsee> navarone: yes, i recall so
[06:26] <Hobbsee> navarone: what do you need it for?  prozilla?
 go sudo apt-get install naim. APT'll pull in the rest.
[06:27] <linux_n00b_e> The terminal says pkillall: command not found
[06:27] <navarone> Hobbsee, I am gonna attempt compiling Rhapsody from sorceforge...its an irc client
[06:27] <Hobbsee> navarone: ah fun :)
[06:27] <linux_n00b_e> is that something that I need to install?
[06:27] <intelikey> sorry drop the  P
[06:27] <timsath> ahh ok
[06:27] <navarone> Hobbsee, if this works it will be first successful compile for me...lol
[06:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:27] <linux_n00b_e> ok...
[06:28] <Hobbsee> navarone: you using checkinstall?
[06:28] <tk401> hey everyone
[06:28] <quacker> yoh
[06:28] <navarone> Hobbsee, have not gotten that far yet
[06:28] <tk401> does anyone know of any GUIs to manage samba other than swat?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> !tell navarone about checkinstall
[06:29] <Hobbsee> useful thing :)
[06:29] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks intelikey, that worked great! 
[06:29] <chaumurky> what's Rhapsody?
[06:30] <timsath> i think i found the problem
[06:30] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e if you need to check the process table for exact name use 'ps -A ux'     also   an 'sudo kill -9 <pid number> '  is super kill   you might make a mintel note.
[06:30] <timsath> apparently xorg.conf had a touchpad in it
[06:30] <timsath> i def do not have one of those
[06:30] <timsath> lol
[06:30] <DeezNuts> newbie needs help....totem won't play mp3's; no decoders found
[06:30] <timsath> thats probably what was causing it
[06:30] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:30] <Trashcan> !tell deeznuts about restricted formats
[06:30] <DeezNuts> gracias!
[06:30] <linux_n00b_e> thanks intelikey, I'll write that down.
[06:31] <timsath> ubuntu has like really good wifi support right?
[06:31] <timsath> i never got it to work in gentoo or BSD
[06:31] <timsath> im hoping this will have better support for it
[06:31] <mustard5> timsath, it seems to ..there is always ndiswrapper
[06:31] <timsath> yeah, i have had no success with ndiswrapper
[06:31] <timsath> no matter what distro i've used
[06:31] <timsath> :(
[06:31] <mustard5> timsath, what card you got?
[06:31] <bimberi> timsath: see if there's any guidance here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:31] <timsath> netgear WG111
[06:32] <timsath> and i have a linksys wusb54G
[06:32] <jackal24> !paste
[06:32] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:32] <mustard5> !wireless
[06:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:32] <linux_n00b_e> Sometimes, when I quit Ubuntu, it kicks me into a full screen terminal instead of quitting. Could I use 'killall' to close Ubuntu if that ever happens again?
[06:32] <mustard5> timsath, ubotu has a list of supported stuff at the link above
[06:32] <Hobbsee> linux_n00b_e: and when it does, you want the entire machine to shutdown?
[06:32] <timsath> well all be damned: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WG111HowTo
[06:32] <linux_n00b_e> Yeah
[06:33] <linux_n00b_e> Like I'm not trying to quit my session, just shutdown the whole machine.
[06:34] <Hobbsee> linux_n00b_e: well wait a few seconds - sometimes it just flashes to the terminal before shutting down, otherwise, log into the terminal, and type "sudo shutdown now -h"
[06:34] <qt2> err, the wiki told me to use "fakeroot" with make kpkg, but i tried that, and it's giving me this error:
[06:35] <qt2> cp: cannot create regular file `config.precious': Permission denied
[06:35] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e that 'full screen terminal'  is probably a "console"  terminals run in X   while X runs in a console.    from the console type 'sudo init 0 '   to power off the box  or 'sudo init 6 '  for a reboot.   ( also same as [ctrl] +[alt] +[delete]  )
[06:35] <slashx1896> He
[06:35] <slashx1896> Hey all
[06:35] <intelikey> hey
[06:36] <slashx1896> is there a way of dling songs like limewire? gnutella doesnt work for me...
[06:36] <Fujitsu> linux_n00b_e, on my Breezy machine it drops me to the terminal for ages before actually saying anything. Everything happens on the old X terminal for me (ie pty7)
[06:36] <studs> hi wana chat
[06:36] <chaumurky> ???
[06:36] <mustard5> slashx1896, http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[06:36] <senectus> how do you _SEND_ a file using scp?
[06:36] <slashx1896> studs, this isnt chat room..this is for ubuntu help
[06:36] <Fujitsu> That was a quick visit...
[06:36] <Fujitsu> senectus, reverse the arguments
[06:37] <chaumurky> bot
[06:37] <slashx1896> o.o
[06:37] <slashx1896> who
[06:37] <intelikey> Fujitsu pty7 or tty7 ?
[06:37] <Fujitsu> Sorry, tty.
[06:37] <mustard5> slashx1896, you need java to install from limewire site
[06:37] <slashx1896> i think i have not sure tho...
[06:37] <linux_n00b_e> Thanks. One more question: I'm using apt-get install to install superkaramba. I got a message saying that it 'depends on kdelibs4 not in sid anymore'; Is it ok to still install superkaramba?
[06:37] <intelikey> tty's are consoles
[06:37] <slashx1896> mustard5, i dont remember if i got it or not
[06:37] <senectus> Fujitsu, can you show me an example
[06:38] <mustard5> slashx1896, type about:plugins in your firefox address bar and look for javaplugin
[06:38] <chaumurky> Fujitsu, (OT) how do you do that 3rd person thingy?
[06:38] <slashx1896> i dont use firefox.. it wont let me ever since i got mediaconnectivy or something
[06:38] <Fujitsu> senectus: scp /path/to/some/file username@host:/path/to/put/it
[06:38] <slashx1896> i use epiphany
[06:38] <senectus> Fujitsu, sweet thanks man
[06:38] <mustard5> slashx1896, k
[06:39] <mustard5> slashx1896, well i will show you a link to install anyway :)
[06:39] <mustard5> !javadeb
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[06:39] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e "sid"  you got debian sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:39] <slashx1896> whenever i load firefox it doesnt a mediaplayerconnectivty wizard thing, i hit next and then it freazes and exits
[06:39] <DeezNuts> Thanks for your help with mp3's!
[06:39] <linux_n00b_e> I don't know...
[06:39] <mustard5> slashx1896, read stuff that ubotu said above
[06:39] <slashx1896> i know
[06:39] <slashx1896> just sein if i can get both problems fixed ;)
[06:40] <mustard5> slashx1896, what media player you using?
[06:40] <slashx1896> mplayer
[06:40] <mustard5> slashx1896, so did you try getting rid of totem as default?
[06:40] <Madpilot> if I'm burning .flac files onto an audio CD w/ k3b, do I have to explicitly convert them to .wav first, or will k3b handle that when I hit the Burn button?
[06:40] <slashx1896> i think i did
[06:40] <viperX> I'm clueless to whole Debian thing.
[06:40] <slashx1896> i have java
[06:40] <mustard5> slashx1896, I would think there are still references to totem in firefox then
[06:41] <slashx1896> mustard5, so what do i do?
[06:41] <intelikey> viperX check your sources against the list
[06:41] <defendguin> wow the mozilla.org build of firefox is like 3 times faster than the ubuntu build
[06:41] <mustard5> slashx1896, I'm not sure..I've seen someone with the answer in here once..but I don't recall what it was
[06:41] <slashx1896> o
[06:41] <viperX> How do i accomplish that?
[06:41] <defendguin> how did that happen
[06:42] <intelikey> viperX lists at  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:42] <mustard5> slashx1896, you could try a search on ubuntuforums.org
[06:43] <viperX> What do i do if there are differences?
[06:43] <slashx1896> How do i install limewiere? wine?
[06:43] <coz> Hello all
[06:43] <cafuego> limewire is a java app, no windows shite required.
[06:43] <intelikey> you can use 'sudo apt-setup '  and choose manually edit viperX and fix it.
[06:43] <coz> all of a sudden I have a problem with xchat
[06:43] <slashx1896> oh cause i saw a .exe
[06:44] <viperX> ok
[06:44] <coz> normally I just go to freenode, under server join channel type it in and I am here
[06:44] <cafuego> slashx1896: Yes, that's how windows installs it.
[06:44] <coz> now, I go to sever it only says connect or disconnect and it tells that Nick something or other is already taken
[06:44] <mustard5> slashx1896, no..there should be a linux install of some kind there
[06:45] <viperX> When i run apt-get update, that will automatically install the updates right?
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> slashx1896: By mediaconnectivity do you mean the extension?  Because you can probably still disable that, right?  Otherwise, I had to remove references to Totem a few days ago in FF1.5.
[06:45] <walkingice> viperX: no
[06:45] <oxez> viperX: it updates your repos iirc
[06:45] <walkingice> viperX:  apt-get update  just update your source.list
[06:45] <mustard5> viperX, that updates the package lists only
[06:45] <holycow> oh man
[06:45] <slashx1896> yeah the extension i need it for my vids
[06:46] <intelikey> viperX if you run apt-setup it will automaticly update when you finish editing the sources list.
[06:46] <viperX> OH...... ;)
[06:46] <holycow> i'm addicted to the stumbleupon extension for firefox
[06:46] <holycow> its like the 'good' filter for the net
[06:46] <walkingice> viperX:  apt-get upgrade   :
[06:46] <viperX> aHHHHH
[06:46] <holycow> i think i will haveto actually uninstall that that extension
[06:47] <intelikey> walkingice no viperX has deb sources he needs to get rid of.
[06:47] <holycow> but only after a few more clicks
[06:47] <slashx1896> Wait so how do i install limewire?
[06:47] <holycow> -_-
[06:47] <defendguin> hmmm probably because it was built without gtk support
[06:47] <viperX> MAN I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF TO LEARN!!!!!! ;)
[06:47] <slashx1896> viperx, join the club
[06:47] <slashx1896> lol
[06:47] <viperX> lol
[06:48] <andrew_> Im having trouble with Firefox - it wont let me type in it, in the location bar or in any form elements
[06:48] <slashx1896> mustard5, whats the linux install file look like?
[06:48] <walkingice> @o@
[06:48] <intelikey> crawl first.  then walk.
[06:48] <andrew_> Ive restarted it, same trouble
[06:48] <holycow> viperX, you know, even after one has worked in the field for years and years, one still feels that way
[06:48] <mustard5> slashx1896, its here http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[06:48] <andrew_> And obviously, I can type in other apps ;P
[06:48] <viperX> I just installed pear pc. gonna try to get that up and running...
[06:48] <slashx1896> viperx, i just started notto long ago, and  im doin good
[06:48] <slashx1896> mustard5, i got that
[06:48] <andrew_> Anyone know what could cause that?
[06:48] <mustard5> slashx1896, there should be a README file inside the zip
[06:48] <slashx1896> mustard5, good idea
[06:49] <slashx1896> ;)
[06:49] <slashx1896> lol
[06:49] <Topazworm> Hi there. Can anyone help me with some ubuntu problems? I just installed it today
[06:49] <ejofee> anybody know who (nicks) are more or less directly responsible for which packages are included in the ubuntu repositories?
[06:49] <mustard5> andrew_, mine does the same thing occassionally
[06:49] <intelikey> !firefox15
[06:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[06:49] <intelikey> andrew_ ^
[06:49] <holycow> Topazworm, just ask dude
[06:50] <mustard5> andrew_, I find opening a terminal and tapping away on the keys and then coming back to firefox sometimes works
[06:50] <andrew_> mustard5, Ill give that a go
[06:50] <mustard5> andrew_, firefox has been nothing but trouble for me lately
[06:50] <andrew_> intelikey, does 1.5 fix that bug?
[06:50] <Topazworm> Well i think ive screwed up my firefox. I tried (badly) to install 1.5, not having a clue what i was doing and now i cant run it. Ive tried removing and unstilling but nothing!
[06:50] <intelikey> supposed to
[06:50] <holycow> mustard5, that doesnt sound like a firefox bug, that sounds like you hosed something
[06:50] <intelikey> i can't answer personally.
[06:50] <slashx1896> limewier is installing :D
[06:50] <andrew_> ahh, but it is/was an identified bug?
[06:51] <mustard5> holycow, well i don't know about that...I can't see how I hosed it
[06:51] <intelikey> i don't use ff or ub.
[06:51] <holycow> mustard5, thats what everyone says
[06:51] <intelikey> andrew_ yes methinks so
[06:51] <coag> hmmmm
[06:51] <holycow> Topazworm, be more specific please
[06:51] <coag> what are some fps's that i can apt-get to play?
[06:51] <holycow> what problems are  you having now exactly?
[06:52] <ejofee> anybody here?
[06:52] <holycow> coag, say what? english please
[06:52] <coag> holycow: sorry shooter type games
[06:52] <Topazworm> i downloaded a scipt which claimed it could install firefox 1.5. i ran it, errors came up. When i tried to run firefox, nothing. So i used the package manager to completely remove firefox. then i reinstalled it from my ubuntu cd. But it still doesnt run.
[06:52] <mustard5> coag, none it apt-get that I know of
[06:52] <coag> holycow: "first person shooter" though that was common knowledge :P
[06:52] <holycow> not sure, start up synaptic and go through the games in the games section
[06:52] <rafx> apt-get install call-of-duty2 -- enjoy
[06:53] <locomorto> lol rafx
[06:53] <holycow> Topazworm, you cannot use package manager to uninstall SOMETHING YOU TRIED TO INSTALL OUTSIDE THE PACKAGE MANAGER
[06:53] <coag> i fell for it!
[06:53] <rafx> its my favorite game using ssh and ascii art
[06:53] <slashx1896> ok now that limewiere is installed, i have it ran rite now, but how do i run it in the future>
[06:53] <Topazworm> well i know that now mate. Im totally new to linux, never used it before today
[06:53] <holycow> Topazworm, delete all instances of firefox on your system and then instal ff once again
[06:54] <slashx1896> brb
[06:54] <locomorto> is it just me or is www.ubuntuforums.org down?
[06:54] <holycow> Topazworm, emphasis is there purely for your informational purposes, not an insult :)
[06:54] <ejofee> Topazworm: if you are totally new to linux, you shouldn't use ubuntu first
[06:54] <holycow> ejofee, don't be dumb, what should he use then?
[06:54] <ejofee> Topazworm: use kubuntu first :)
[06:54] <mettallicat> lockhead, up here
[06:54] <Topazworm> kubuntu?
[06:54] <locomorto> :|
[06:54] <locomorto> kubuntu can be confusing at times
[06:55] <locomorto> but so can vanila ubuntu
[06:55] <ejofee> holycow: kubuntu, as i said
[06:55] <locomorto> So..
[06:55] <holycow> that is dumb, Topazworm don't listen to him, just use ubuntu for now and try other stuff later
[06:55] <mettallicat> ejofee, why kubuntu
[06:55] <coag> aha!
[06:55] <coag> well i found quake2
[06:55] <ejofee> holycow: why would you think ubuntu is better?
[06:55] <intelikey> ejofee lol
[06:55] <locomorto> Whichever you choose is cool :)
[06:55] <slashx1896> nvm back
[06:55] <slashx1896> SO how do i run limewire in the future?
[06:55] <ejofee> mettallicat: usually kde impresses the windows newcomer
[06:55] <mustard5> coag, you need to own the quake2 CD to use that
[06:55] <locomorto> Ok, can anyone goto www.ubuntuforums.org?
[06:55] <holycow> ejofee, you are confusing him, and not offering any usefull information just to convince someone to use your fav desktop
[06:55] <mustard5> coag, it requires files from the CD
[06:55] <Topazworm> I have no clue how to use linux. Ivew been used to windows. So i thought i need firefox 1.5 i downloaded it from the website and tried to install. I iddnt know i am supposed to use the package manager.
[06:55] <Hobbsee> locomorto: yep
[06:55] <Drako> can anyone tell me how to do widescreen tv-out?
[06:55] <slashx1896> i just exited out of terminal and limewire exited o.O
[06:55] <holycow> Topazworm, won't gain a single thing from using kde
[06:55] <mettallicat> ejofee, KDE sucks hard and most of my students like more gnome
[06:56] <holycow> he just wants to learn
[06:56] <coag> mustard5: it's open source
[06:56] <ejofee> holycow: i agree
[06:56] <locomorto> Hobbsee: it works for you?
[06:56] <Hobbsee> locomorto: yes
[06:56] <locomorto> :/
[06:56] <syntaxerror64> locomorto, it's www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:56] <holycow> Topazworm, it's okay, it's free you can screw it up and start over if you need to :)
[06:56] <mettallicat> if we want to learn gnome is tha best
[06:56] <intelikey> ejofee ubuntu is ubuntu  whether it has kde gnome xfce fluxbox what ever or no gui at all......   hehhe
[06:56] <locomorto> syntaxerror64: ah there the same :)
[06:56] <holycow> Topazworm, if you want to browse, why not install another browser in the man time while you figure this out
[06:56] <Topazworm> i guess. so how do i fix this problem? bearing in mind, ive tried uninstalling it already
[06:56] <syntaxerror64> locomorto, i am reading some HOWTO files there right now and it seems to be working fine
[06:56] <slashx1896> mustard5, how come when i close terminal limewiere closes?
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, try installing epiphany-browser, its pretty good
[06:57] <mustard5> slashx1896, because you ran it from terminal?
[06:57] <mettallicat> well time to get some sleep _D
[06:57] <syntaxerror64> locomorto, yes i'm sorry i read it wrong i thought you put ".com"
[06:57] <Topazworm> whats the command for that one
[06:57] <slashx1896> o.o thats what the readme said
[06:57] <slashx1896> how do i run it otherwise
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, install something else first so you can google up an answer and the related skills you will need to fix it
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, forget commands for now
[06:57] <syntaxerror64> can't you just go to synpatic package manager, remove firefox 1.0.7 and then just reinstall it
[06:57] <ejofee> intelikey: indeed. that's the very reason why i tried it as a joke. however, now i understand that i might have created some confusion.
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, open up synaptic from system / admin /synaptic
[06:57] <holycow> use that for now and make your life easy
[06:58] <holycow> you can fix firefox later
[06:58] <slashx1896> nvm
[06:58] <coag> how do you uninstall something you installed through apt?
[06:58] <mustard5> slashx1896, you worked it out?
[06:58] <Topazworm> ok
[06:58] <Hobbsee> coag: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[06:58] <holycow> coag, you can uninstall it via synaptic if you want
[06:58] <holycow> or what Hobbsee said
[06:58] <intelikey> coag with apt
[06:58] <coag> holycow: command line takes less time :P
[06:58] <Topazworm> k installing now
[06:59] <holycow> Topazworm, use synaptic to explore the software, it will keep you safe for the first bit
[06:59] <slashx1896> i just ran the runlime.sh file, then hit run
[06:59] <Topazworm> ok well i need help with one more thing. if you dont mind
[06:59] <holycow> Topazworm, after a while you can add repositories to synaptic to expand the total amount of software available via synaptic to about 16 000
[06:59] <holycow> Topazworm, when you don't find something in a repo, then start exploring command line bit by bit :)
[07:00] <holycow> hopefully you find that approach helpfull
[07:00] <mustard5> slashx1896, you could add it to you menu using the menu editor in breezy
[07:00] <Topazworm> Well at the moment i need help accesses my 2nd physical ntfs drive. I want to play my mp3's
[07:00] <slashx1896> wat menu editor?  llol
[07:00] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:00] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:00] <holycow> Topazworm, you will need to edit your /etc/fstab file for that, however, why not pull it out and put it in a usb cradle?  it will automatically have a shortcut created to it on your desktop
[07:01] <Topazworm> usb cradle? i dont have one of those
[07:01] <holycow> okay then what you will need to google is the following:
[07:01] <ejofee> "<locomorto> kubuntu can be confusing at times" -- in which way?
[07:01] <holycow> a) fdisk -l
[07:01] <holycow> b) /etc/fstab
[07:01] <mustard5> slashx1896, look in Applications>>System tools if you are on breezy
[07:01] <holycow> c) how to mount ntfs partition in linux
[07:01] <locomorto> ejofee: heaps of options
[07:02] <holycow> lots of info that
[07:02] <slashx1896> kk
[07:02] <locomorto> ejofee: I'm not saying gnome has it right either
[07:02] <intelikey> or look at the link ubotu said ^
[07:02] <Topazworm> ill have a lookie..
[07:02] <holycow> d) make sure to add the word 'breezy' in your searches, you will get more hits on wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[07:02] <ejofee> locomorto: and what is vanilla ubuntu? (i am a newbye to (k)ubuntu myself)
[07:02] <locomorto> ejofee: Its just that sometimes they get a bit excessive
[07:02] <locomorto> ejofee: ubuntu without anything else installed (eg kde)
[07:02] <holycow> kde is for power user, they dump everything up front for you, it completely overwhelms the user
[07:03] <holycow> it is NOT the right way to intro most users, only those with highly technically oriented minds
[07:03] <ejofee> locomorto: i thought every ubuntu was without kde...
[07:03] <bcl> does anyone have a solution for the transcode libgcc1 conflict issue?
[07:03] <locomorto> ejofee: ya, but you can install it
[07:03] <locomorto> vanilla means plain
[07:03] <locomorto> like nothing added on
[07:03] <holycow> make it simple for newbs, give them synaptic, and a few commands for a while and let them muck about
[07:03] <intelikey> ty holycow i'm flattered.
[07:03] <ejofee> locomorto: oh, the vanilla refuses to install kde?!
[07:03] <locomorto> no
[07:03] <locomorto> :|
[07:04] <rafx> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
[07:04] <ejofee> locomorto: then i still don't understand the differences between ubuntu and vanilla.
[07:04] <locomorto> lol
[07:04] <locomorto> ok
[07:04] <intelikey> kde is the only desktop that makes linux work.  gnome lets it idle too much.
[07:04] <chaumurky> nirc rocks!!
[07:04] <rafx> and then there's Ubuntu for Servers
[07:04] <locomorto> * vanilla = * without anything else added on/installed/tweaked etc
[07:05] <ejofee> intelikey: i bet that is an irony :P
[07:05] <intelikey> kde = right click everything.
[07:05] <rafx> like MS Windows?
[07:05] <intelikey> ejofee in part maybe.....
[07:05] <ejofee> locomorto: oh, i see... but who would want something like vanilla?
[07:05] <Topazworm> Im fed up with this
[07:05] <ejofee> Topazworm: with what?
[07:06] <locomorto> ejofee: I was using it as a basis of comparison
[07:06] <ejofee> locomorto: oh, ok
[07:06] <Topazworm> It shouldnt be god damn rocket science to get ONE hard drive to work. Ive tried scripts and codes and nothing!
[07:06] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[07:06] <ubotu> blackbox is much better than xfce!
[07:06] <holycow> Topazworm, it's not, the automatic code for mounting hd's on your ide chain is simply not there as of today
[07:06] <oxez> if I decide to use openbox3 as my window manager in gnome, will the right click on the desktop will bring me the current thing, with 'Change background, create folder etc..' or the ob3 menu?
[07:06] <chaumurky> other bots are better than ......
[07:06] <intelikey> hmmm i said
[07:06] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[07:07] <ejofee> ubotu: right, but icewm is better than both :P
[07:07] <ubotu> ejofee: what are you talking about?
[07:07] <intelikey> lol
[07:07] <holycow> Topazworm, a: wait for next release b: add a line in /etc/fstab its simple and a skill you should have c: get a usb cradle d: and well okay use windows or mac if you like
[07:07] <chaumurky> i like ncurses
[07:07] <Topazworm> Firefox is knackered, i cant access my ntfs drive for my files, and my 2 partitioned drives i cant access because it tells me "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb5"." ARGH
[07:07] <holycow> a) you hosed your own firefox install
[07:07] <mustard5> Topazworm, there is a script that can do the mounting for you and make the fstab entries
[07:08] <holycow> b) you are the one that doesn't want to learn how to mount drives
[07:08] <rafx> i like icewm too. haven't bothered with gnome or kde yet.  most of my work is in ssh clients anyway so it doesn't matter
[07:08] <holycow> what can i tell you? you can't expect to use a tool and not actually learn new skills
[07:08] <mustard5> holycow, I don't think your being helpful
[07:08] <ejofee> rafx: yeah, i very much like icewm / dfm combination
[07:08] <chaumurky> hey, should I turn 'unmaskirq' on for my DVD burner in hdparm.conf ??
[07:08] <Topazworm> Mates its 2005/06, i souldnt have to type lines of code in to get my drive to work
[07:08] <chaumurky> is it safe?
[07:09] <holycow> Topazworm, i told you your options, being that this is open source and you didn't pay a dime for 16 000 applications at your hands with the click of a mouse ...
[07:09] <holycow> ... the general expectation is that one either contributes the missing piece or waits until someone does
[07:09] <holycow> *cough*
[07:09] <chaumurky> !hdparm
[07:09] <ejofee> Topazworm: you mean the only problem is you don't want to mount drives?
[07:09] <ubotu> chaumurky: Wish i knew
[07:09] <chaumurky> bugger
[07:09] <chaumurky> ahem... bottoms
[07:09] <mustard5> chaumurky, you trying to set up dma?
[07:10] <Topazworm> Not the only problem. Its not like i dont want to, it just wont.
[07:10] <chaumurky> no
[07:10] <ejofee> Topazworm: what does it say?
[07:10] <chaumurky> i want to know if it's a good idea to turn on 'unmaskirq' for my dvd burner
[07:10] <mustard5> Topazworm, if you want to come to a quieter chat room I can show you how to mount your ntfs drives
[07:10] <Topazworm> I tried running a script and it doesnt find my ntfs drive
[07:10] <Topazworm> alright mate
[07:10] <mustard5> Topazworm, join #kubuntu-offtopic if you want help
[07:10] <holycow> you don't run a script to mount a drive
[07:11] <Hobbsee> there is a script that you can holycow
[07:12] <chaumurky> apparently: "Enabling unmasking lets Linux unmask other interrupts while handling a disk interrupt, allowing your system to do other similar tasks at the same time and should improve overall system response time."
[07:13] <holycow> Hobbsee, *nod* i'm simply not convinced that people who get everything for free should refuse to google and learn new things
[07:13] <Hobbsee> well, true, maybe - point them to ubuntu wiki then - there's heaps of stuff there that is known to be correct
[07:14] <chaumurky> !unmaskirq
[07:14] <ubotu> chaumurky: I don't know
[07:16] <holycow> Hobbsee, it's not so much as that even, it is the insinuation that somethign that is created by volunteers must somehow live up to their expectations
[07:17] <holycow> without them putting even in a bit of effort with a search engine
[07:22] <Madpilot> how do I get k3b to stop putting that irritating little blue progress box on top of everything?
[07:22] <holycow> Madpilot, a non answer might be to suggest using gnome baker ... not sure if kde gives you that granular control over apps
[07:23] <Madpilot> holycow: gnomebaker only burns coasters for me :|
[07:23] <Madpilot> k3b burns good discs, but it's got some really dumb defaults
[07:24] <holycow> i figured you had a reson for using that, not sure gnome baker works for me, although i have mostly just used nautilus as a frontend for that
[07:24] <Stampertje> can anyone help me ? i've just installed ubuntu for the first time and can't manage to set res. higher then 640x480 :(
[07:24] <holycow> Stampertje, ubuntu does have an app for checking monitor resolution capabilities but it still fails sometimes ...
[07:24] <Madpilot> I'm burning audio CDs, and Serpentine seems to produce coasters about 50% of the time; so far k3b has been good, but slower than Serpentine...
[07:25] <monkeyface> hi
[07:25] <Stampertje> i've tried that holycow
[07:25] <holycow> ... that means you will haveto add yoru monitors horizontal and vertical refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:25] <holycow> i know i wasn't finished
[07:25] <monkeyface> i was wondering how would i update ubuntu
[07:25] <Stampertje> but it doesn't allow me to turn it on higher
[07:25] <Stampertje> ah right
[07:25] <Stampertje> :)
[07:25] <monkeyface> because i have horay hedge hog
[07:25] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:25] <Madpilot> monkeyface: see ubotu ^^^
[07:25] <monkeyface> ty
[07:26] <Stampertje> well i thought it was because of my vid card since it sux :D
[07:26] <Stampertje> nvidia riva tnt2
[07:26] <holycow> you will haveto google up your model to find the refresh rates (unless they are on the back) buty then all you need to do is put them in xorg.conf and logout and log back in to restart x (or do ctrl / alt / backspace)
[07:26] <holycow> Stampertje, no, even the cheapest vid card can do 1600x1200
[07:26] <Stampertje> nah this one can't
[07:26] <Stampertje> well maybe
[07:27] <Stampertje> it didn't on windows
[07:27] <Stampertje> :p
[07:27] <kestas> not all vid cards can do high resolutions
[07:27] <holycow> i bet it can, if you put it on a monitor that supports that res
[07:27] <Stampertje> yes ofcourse
[07:27] <Stampertje> but not with my compaq presario monitor which i ripped from an old pc :p
[07:27] <holycow> therein lies your answer
[07:27] <oxez> how would I remove borders for a specific app on gnome?
[07:27] <Stampertje> hehe ;)
[07:28] <kestas> this also isnt about refresh rates
[07:28] <holycow> oxez, you can't unless the app is coded to allow for that
[07:28] <kestas> just entering in the res you want into xorg.conf for your depth will probably do
[07:28] <Stampertje> probably
[07:28] <Stampertje> :)
[07:28] <holycow> Stampertje, don't listen to kestas
[07:28] <holycow> it IS ABOUT REFRESH RATES
[07:28] <oxez> holycow: do you know a terminal that would allow me? I'm thinking of aterm/eterm etc
[07:28] <kestas> unless its a driver problem
[07:28] <Stampertje> no doesn't matter much i think
[07:28] <holycow> refresh rates are what give you the resolution space of a monitor spec
[07:29] <Stampertje> i don't think it can go higher then 60hz
[07:29] <Stampertje> :D
[07:29] <monkeyface> thanks
[07:29] <holycow> oxez, nothing rings a bell i'm afraid
[07:29] <Stampertje> hmm
[07:29] <Fujitsu> Refresh rates do not control resolution!
[07:29] <Stampertje> maybe you know this aswell..
[07:30] <oxez> holycow: I know that with fluxbox I was able to do that easily, but I'd like to stick with metacity, I just like it :/
[07:30] <holycow> refresh rates control possible resolution space
[07:30] <Fujitsu> Resolution dictates certain refresh rates
[07:30] <andrew_> I just followed that wiki guide to installing firefox 1.5 for ubuntu, now Im getting a nasty error : /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:30] <Stampertje> i need an ftp client that can support fxp transfers
[07:30] <Stampertje> but not command line
[07:30] <Fujitsu> holycow, what is your definition of 'resolution space'
[07:30] <Fujitsu> andrew_: install the package libstdc++5
[07:30] <paulgroovy> hi, I'm new and need some help
[07:30] <Fujitsu> andrew_, it says that you need it at the top of the wiki.
[07:30] <Fujitsu> What, paulgroovy?
[07:30] <paulgroovy> hi fujitsu
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Hi paulgroovy.
[07:31] <holycow> paulgroovy, just ask
[07:31] <andrew_> ahh, missed that
[07:31] <andrew_> Thanks Fuji
[07:31] <kestas> Stampertje, try sudo sed -i -b .bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf -e 's/Modes\t"/Modes\t"1024x768"\t"/'
[07:31] <paulgroovy> I need help with a wireless 802.11 wireless internet card on my laptop
[07:31] <Stampertje> i don't want that mode
[07:31] <Stampertje> but i'll change
[07:31] <Stampertje> thanks kestas
[07:31] <holycow> paulgroovy, okay, what kind do you have, what chipset does it have
[07:31] <Fujitsu> paulgroovy, what kind?
[07:32] <paulgroovy> ok, i have a dlink airplusxtreme G108
[07:32] <paulgroovy> dwl-g650
[07:33] <paulgroovy> I was told i should have the orinico chipset, but how can i tell if the card has that?
[07:33] <holycow> i'm looking for a page on that, there was a really good wiki page on supported cards and techniques you need for resolving issues
[07:33] <andrew_> Gah! Still having the same problem I had with 1.07
[07:33] <holycow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28card%29%7C%28wireless%29%7C%28support%29
[07:34] <andrew_> Firefox doesnt respond to keystrokes, in the address bar, or in any form elements
[07:35] <andrew_> Anyone know anything about this problem?
[07:35] <holycow> i've only seen that problem on pages where flash steals mouse focus
[07:36] <holycow> andrew_, just out of curiosity, have you tried downloading 1.5 tar.gz, extracting to a temp dir and running binary directly from that? i'm curious if that has the same issue
[07:36] <paulgroovy> ok, I seem to have the intel chipset
[07:36] <mcjerry> i upgraded to dapper and now have problems with twinhan dvb card.....can anyone help?????
[07:36] <andrew_> holycow,  nope, Ill give it a go tho
[07:36] <Stampertje> is there some way to get out of gnome and see only a shell or smth without rebooting ?
[07:37] <holycow> ctrl / alt / f1 would be one way Stampertje
[07:37] <Stampertje> oki thanks :)
[07:37] <Stampertje> bbl to try all the things out
[07:40] <mcjerry> after upgrading to dapper, my twinhan dvb-s card does not work,,,,after upgrade, it still worked with previous kernel.....what do i need to do
[07:41] <holycow> mcjerry, submit a bug, talk with devs about tracking it down.  DapperDrake is a work in progress, generally helping out with a debian type of distro results in waiting a week or two, updating and problem going away magically
[07:41] <cafuego> stop upgrading when there is no need to.
[07:41] <cafuego> See also rule #1.
[07:41] <mcjerry> holycow, how submit a bug?
[07:42] <Madpilot> mcjerry: www.launchpad.net/malone/
[07:42] <holycow> http://bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org/
[07:42] <Madpilot> https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu actually
[07:42] <ajmitch> Madpilot: preferably bugzilla for now
[07:42] <CrimsonKing> if i was missing a script that should be in init.d (imapd, specifically) whats my best way of hunting down the missing script?
[07:43] <bcl> CrimsonKing, locate imapd
[07:43] <Madpilot> ajmitch: OK, I thought everything was switching to lauchpad/malone?
[07:43] <ajmitch> Madpilot: eventually.. :)
[07:43] <holycow> what is this launchpad nonsense?
[07:43] <cafuego> Well well, why does that gentleman have the same KeyID as me?
[07:43] <ajmitch> holycow: nonsense?
[07:43] <CrimsonKing> bcl: yea i've got the bin, but not the init script for it
[07:44] <holycow> since when is ubuntu using random urls for things like bug trackers?
[07:44] <CrimsonKing> the package is installed, got the configs too, but no init.d
[07:44] <andrew_> holycow, same issue run straight from the bin
[07:44] <bcl> CrimsonKing, may be in /usr/share/doc/imapd or similar
[07:44] <ajmitch> holycow: because canonical develops launchpad?
[07:44] <Madpilot> holycow: it's not...
[07:44] <holycow> ajmitch, oh launchpad is that project ... odd.  so what does bugzilla serve then?
[07:45] <ajmitch> holycow: bugzilla is what we use until malone is ready - malone is designed to be multiple distro, upstream, etc
[07:45] <holycow> ajmitch, ah, so how is the transition being handled, everyune is being asked to use malone or ... ?
[07:45] <ajmitch> holycow: when malone is ready
[07:45] <CrimsonKing> bcl: no really dude, its not just missplaced, its not on the computer
[07:46] <ajmitch> holycow: malone has been in use for quite awhile for universe
[07:46] <holycow> ajmitch, so bugzilla is the official one then?  why are you guys suggesting the use of malone then?
[07:46] <CrimsonKing> i will look up how to peak inside of a .deb and get a list of installed files
[07:46] <ajmitch> holycow: I just said that bugzilla was preferred. I didn't suggest the use of malone for filing bugs in main
[07:47] <holycow> andrew_, that makes no sense ... perhaps an extension is causing that somewhere?  the best i think i can do is recommend removing all extensions, and perhaps moving your .mozilla dir somewhere else just to make sure ?
[07:47] <Madpilot> ajmitch: that's the current split, then? Malone for Universe, bugzilla.u.c for main?
[07:47] <B-166_ER-X> how do i list the online users ?
[07:47] <CrimsonKing> ahh, i might just have cyrus-imapd installed when i'm supposed to have cyrus21-imapd....
[07:47] <holycow> ajmitch, *nod* i'm curious, nothing worse than giving people wrong info
[07:47] <Xenguy> B-166_ER-X: w
[07:47] <holycow> ill stick to recommending bugzilla then until otherwise requested to do so
[07:47] <ajmitch> Madpilot: generally, that's how it is.. some other stuff is using malone
[07:47] <cedric> hi! id like to listen to .mpg videos.. but i hate wincodec what should i do then
[07:47] <CrimsonKing> thats -uh- intuitive
[07:48] <Xenguy> who
[07:48] <holycow> CrimsonKing, the problem with "intuitive" is that it is relative
[07:48] <B-166_ER-X> offtopic ?
[07:49] <andrew_> Restarted gnome and its all good again
[07:49] <andrew_> Hope this doesnt happen often :/
[07:49] <holycow> :) simple
[07:49] <Xenguy> Stability is assumed :-)
[07:49] <CrimsonKing> holycow: yea i dig that, but you it still sucks when you spend a big chunk of time looking for something to find out the solution is as simple as this :}
[07:50] <johnw> anyone know good fastcgi tutorials?
[07:50] <nekostar> dam u ubuntu and your crappy dual audio support
[07:50] <holycow> CrimsonKing, indeed :) the terrible thing is that as one gets more knowledgeable about a particular area, you forget that for others it is not obvious at all
[07:50] <chris86wm> hey guys, i am trying to share a folder from my windows computer with ubuntu. i have both of them hooked up through a router, but ubuntu doesnt seem to see the windows computer on the network. is there something special that needs to be done in order to view the shared windows folder?
[07:50] <Xenguy> the community can be a big help :-)
[07:51] <qt2> err, someone i'm trying to allow remote desktop access to me is trying to get a conection, but cant...
[07:51] <qt2> can someone ghere try and vnc me and see if they get a password prompt? :o
[07:52] <chris86wm> any ideas guys, i can ping the windows computer from ubuntu....
[07:52] <holycow> chris86wm, by default ubuntu should be able to see all windows machines on a network, first question to ask is do you have something like firestarter firewall (iptables frontend) on ubuntu, or a firewall of some sort on the windows box preventing broadcasting on the network?
[07:52] <Stampertje> kestas i don't know what happened but i didn't do anything and now i can set resolution and hertz lol
[07:52] <Stampertje> using the program
[07:53] <Stampertje> maybe because i installed nvidia-glx
[07:53] <chris86wm> holycow> no
[07:53] <cedric> hi! id like to listen to .mpg videos.. but i hate wincodec what should i do then
[07:53] <Stampertje> and i didn't reboot for it
[07:53] <Stampertje> but now i did
[07:53] <Stampertje> so next question.. anyone know where i can set hosts manually like in windows hosts file ?
[07:54] <chris86wm> holycow> i turned the firewall on the windows box off, and i do not have firestarter installed on my ubuntu box
[07:54] <chris86wm> (i did have firestarter on here last week but i removed it after a few minutes)
[07:55] <holycow> *hmmm* generally it takes a little bit for samba to pick up windows machines on a network ... unfortunately my sambafu sucks without my reference book :/
[07:55] <holycow> i've never really seen ubuntu not be able to browse a windows network even with a domain tho ... usually it has been someone blocking network broadcasting with a firewall
[07:56] <chris86wm> well whats weird is that when i go to the network places, i see a box that says "you must log in to access UBUNTU"
[07:56] <chris86wm> (this is from the ubuntu box)
[07:56] <holycow> chris86wm, that sounds like something is not installed
[07:56] <chris86wm> i have no passwords set on the network
[07:56] <holycow> is this a fresh install of ubuntu?
[07:56] <chris86wm> yes, about a week old
[07:56] <holycow> ohhh you are browsing from windows to ubuntu?
[07:56] <chris86wm> no ubuntu to windows
[07:57] <chris86wm> both are fresh installs
[07:57] <holycow> your ubuntu box sees the windows box then?
[07:57] <chris86wm> no
[07:57] <holycow>  i see a box that says "you must log in to access UBUNTU"  <-- i'm not sure what that means, you get that when you click on what exactly?
[07:58] <chris86wm> i go to...
[07:58] <chris86wm> Places ----->Network Servers
[07:58] <chris86wm> then it pops up
[07:58] <holycow> just for reference, that box shouldn't come up at all
[07:59] <chris86wm> yeah i know lol
[07:59] <holycow> :)
[07:59] <chris86wm> why would i need the password for the UBUNTU box that i am on right now!!??
[07:59] <Stampertje> can't i install wine on this ?
[07:59] <Stampertje> or is that only for kde
[07:59] <Stampertje> it's not in package list
[07:59] <Stampertje> :/
[07:59] <chris86wm> wine is for gnome too
[08:00] <holycow> chris86wm, that sounds like a mistake, have you tried reinstalling samba or smbclient perhaps?  i have never heard of this, nothing on google about this?
[08:00] <Stampertje> ok then i'll just have to do manual dl
[08:00] <chris86wm> let me try that
[08:00] <holycow> chris86wm, as another side note, there are other bugs in the samba/nautilus/keymanager components, i occasionally get a request to log in to a domain when one isn't required so ...
[08:01] <dennis999> Anybody know how to change the calender layout
[08:01] <holycow> perhaps this is symptomatic of overal 'unclean' implementation at this point
[08:01] <dennis999> ?
[08:01] <holycow> Stampertje, what are you downloading manually? wine?
[08:01] <holycow> why?
[08:01] <holycow> its in the repos dude :)
[08:01] <B-166_ER-X> help..... : when i start ubuntu, i have a error message 'cant find desktop folder, yo uhave to create it or make permission so Nautilus can acess it'
[08:01] <chris86wm> yeah use synaptic
[08:01] <holycow> dennis999, what do you mean change calendar layout?
[08:02] <B-166_ER-X> no desktop folder =  something bad
[08:02] <holycow> B-166_ER-X, not really
[08:02] <chris86wm> well i reinstalled that, and now the authentication box doesnt come up but i cant see the windows box
[08:02] <dennis999> I want Sunday to be first
[08:02] <holycow> B-166_ER-X, request to change your nick, it's too odd to type in even with tab completion :)
[08:02] <holycow> B-166_ER-X, is that a fresh install?
[08:02] <B-166_ER-X> always add this nick but..
[08:03] <holycow> b166erx, :) easier
[08:03] <b166erx> holycow,  well, like a week, and it was working right a few hours ago
[08:03] <chris86wm> man this is gonna suck if i cant get my network to pick up
[08:03] <holycow> b166erx, it sounds like either permissions are wrong or something else is borked, if all you are is missing a home dir thats an easy fix
[08:04] <holycow> b166erx, that sounds like you were mucking about and changed permissions on home dir, i did the same actually :) heh
[08:04] <holycow> b166erx, so, how far can you get on boot, just login screen?
[08:04] <b166erx> well, i cant recall doing this
[08:05] <b166erx> holycow,  i actually, am now on my ubuntu, i have acess to the top menus ...but hte desktop is plain and i cant acess File system, of home dir..ect..
[08:05] <freelove> how do i change the usplash??
[08:05] <holycow> dennis999, i don't see anythign about calendar that would suggest that you can configure it that way, :/
[08:06] <holycow> b166erx, ah shoot, i'm sure it can be fixed but it also is a wee bit delicate situation
[08:06] <dennis999> I couldn't either that's why I  am here, thanks anyway.
[08:06] <b166erx> hm
[08:06] <holycow> it's not soemthign i can really run you through at 11 pm at nigth dude, you may permanently loose access to your account if i miss a step :/
[08:06] <b166erx> a DIR in terminal list the home dir and desktop
[08:07] <b166erx> although listing it, i cannot access it
[08:07] <holycow> b166erx, hang around perhaps someone who can see straight can help :) there are a few things one should do to make sure you don't lock your self out so it's best not to have me walk you through
[08:07] <holycow> it
[08:08] <b166erx> ok..then...can someone help ?
[08:08] <b166erx> dnag
[08:09] <b166erx> its 2:00 am here ;P
[08:11] <N6REJ> how can I add this url to the sources list?  It doesn't like it... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/
[08:12] <ejofee> how can i change the menu style automatically. aren't there some preestablished menu themes?
[08:13] <holycow> what do you mean "menu themes"
[08:14] <bsdirl> question: can you get xubuntu with ship-it?
[08:14] <chris86wm> aghh!
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: I'm not sure, but you might need to separate dapper/ as the section?
[08:14] <chris86wm> this stinks
[08:15] <Madpilot> bsdirl: no, only Ubuntu
[08:15] <bsdirl> heh i was wondering why the CDs I got had gnome
[08:15] <bsdirl> ty :] 
[08:15] <Stampertje> N6REJ, don't you need to put ftp:// in front of it ?
[08:15] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: I got some of the firefox amd64.deb files for ubuntu from here ... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/ the problem is they need other files too.
[08:16] <bsdirl> peace
[08:17] <chris86wm> no more ideas on the networking problem guys? i think i am stumped
[08:17] <N6REJ> whats your network problem chris86wm ?
[08:17] <Stampertje> N6REJ, why not try an ftp client instead of firefox ?
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Did you try enabling multiverse, universe, and restricted first?
[08:17] <N6REJ> Stampertje: no, I'm trying to upgrade ff to 1.5 on the amd64 arch.
[08:17] <chris86wm> i will repaste it
[08:17] <N6REJ> tony for breezy yeah.
[08:17] <chris86wm> i am trying to share a folder from my windows computer with ubuntu. i have both of them hooked up through a router, but ubuntu doesnt seem to see the windows computer on the network. is there something special that needs to be done in order to view the shared windows folder?
[08:18] <b166erx> Can someone help me here please ?      Nautilus tells me that DEsktop doesnt existe or that there is wrong permissions
[08:18] <chris86wm> when i go to places-----> network servers i window pops up saying "You must log in to access UBUNTU"
[08:18] <N6REJ> chris86wm: yeah, you need samba AND they have to belong to the same samba domain
[08:18] <chris86wm> i have sambe and they are on the same domain
[08:18] <chris86wm> *samba
[08:19] <N6REJ> chris86wm: then your samba config is bad.
[08:19] <freelove> how do i change the usplash??
[08:19] <chris86wm> the windows box sees the ubuntu one but the ubuntu one doesnt see the windows
[08:19] <chris86wm> its a fresh install of ubuntu though......:(
[08:19] <N6REJ> chris86wm: let me think.
[08:19] <Stampertje> windows does see the linux box ? lol i think that's kinda funny
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: It looks like you should just be able to add the sections (main, etc.) after the line you put earlier.
[08:19] <Stampertje> :D
[08:20] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: yeah, thats what I thought too!
[08:20] <dbernar1> Hi, can anyone help me set my locale up?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Have you looked at http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/?
[08:20] <dbernar1> I am getting an error with apt, and other programs.
[08:20] <chris86wm> i had this working in hoary
[08:20] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso:  that might help... let me try.
[08:21] <paulgroovy> Hi, I'm back and need some help finding the driver for my dlink dwl-g650 wifi card, and then downloading it.
[08:21] <Stampertje> where the hell can i make everything english again. this dutch mindless translation is kinda freaking me out
[08:22] <b166erx> how can i show the permissions on a dir ? and what should be the permissions on Desktop ?
[08:22] <difekta> chris86wm like keymap stuff?
[08:22] <b166erx> how can i list the current permissions ?
[08:22] <Wookie> wig, so your current date, and the date is current thing, with 'change background, create folder etc..' or the sudo perl
[08:22] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: Failed to fetch http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/dists/main/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80] 
[08:22] <Wookie> qt2: a great for now i'm stuck trying to fetch major bug with c libraries
[08:22] <N6REJ> b166erx: in terminal ls -la
[08:22] <Wookie> st^anger^19m: if you really bother me, id 2) ls -ld /media/public
[08:23] <chris86wm> difekta: what do you mean keymap stuff?
[08:23] <Wookie> in c i can't define the keymap for xorg
[08:23] <b166erx> -rw-r--r--   1 oli  oli   424895 2005-12-12 00:36 Desktop
[08:23] <b166erx>  , does that looks normal ?
[08:23] <Wookie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root
[08:23] <Wookie> does that the normal wallpaper.
[08:23] <rafx> b166erx: also be sure to read this, it will answer many of your questions before you ask:  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[08:23] <Wookie> normally i just understanding this, it screws up
[08:25] <weissi> is it possible to install ubuntu/kubuntu via a net installer like debian (put 2 floppies in and get the rest via apt get over the net) ?
[08:25] <Wookie> phantomcircuit-a: irc.undernet.org #teensex hth hand :) this is the root should do that for about 5 different floppies ten years ago than ruby, etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?debianamd64faq
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Remove the /dists after /dapper, and /restricted is a separate section, not part of /main.
[08:25] <Wookie> n6rej: it looks like button displays the warning failed
[08:26] <Wookie> i love the description that you want other side reading it now
[08:26] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso:  so they should be seperate entrys?
[08:26] <Wookie> it's all treated as seperate files, although you might get
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Correct.
[08:27] <Wookie> n6rej: i'm not sure, but it is basically what is hosed something
[08:27] <N6REJ> k
[08:27] <Wookie> acetech: k joined the burn button?
[08:27] <Wookie> reisio
[08:27] <reisio> heh
[08:27] <Wookie> rafx, heh
[08:28] <reisio> no ops? :p
[08:28] <Wookie> it both ways :p
[08:28] <Wookie> dabar
[08:28] <Wookie> big!
[08:28] <Wookie> heatxsink_
[08:28] <Xenguy> !network-install
[08:28] <ubotu> network-install is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall
[08:28] <Wookie> like, totally, a way to store a gui frontend
[08:28] <dabaR> Wookie: heh, I just joined the channel, and you said my name...
[08:28] <Wookie> i've got some really care about being very accurate this is, i output file name..
[08:29] <Xenguy> speak of the devil ;-)
[08:29] <Wookie> who can speak freakin' roman, svizzero
[08:29] <dabaR> Wookie: I fixed my locale issue.
[08:29] <Wookie> brend: there's unicode locale really breaks this time you didnt really checked
[08:29] <Wookie> zh
[08:29] <N6REJ> And I think I have to tell it its source not binary
[08:29] <Wookie> mathias64, so where would recommend a binary distro
[08:29] <Wookie> i have -pipe in your network problem chris86wm
[08:30] <chris86wm> sry i just got back in the room
[08:30] <Wookie> anything goes type chat room
[08:30] <chris86wm> i missed what ya said
[08:30] <Wookie> i've already reboote.d i missed voicing you had a generic query example i have instaled and want to put that livecd totally worked!
[08:30] <chris86wm> lol
[08:30] <Wookie> ball: only the faq in one of them is a lot more money lol
[08:30] <dabaR> Wookie: would you like a kick ban, or are you really bad in english?
[08:30] <Wookie> spider: a) cycle b) i kick ass
[08:30] <chris86wm> Wookie: would you mind repeating yourself?
[08:30] <Wookie> my dad wants help yourself to c and by repeating what you've plenty to robotics enthusiasts and such file or howto
[08:31] <weissi> ubotu: oh, I'm searching for a simple netinst, not that freaky! My setup is the following: harware-router<-->target_machine. I have no cd burner (and no time to order a cd)
[08:31] <Wookie> mephis1987, your software is the following:
[08:31] <ubotu> weissi: I think you lost me on that one
[08:31] <Wookie> yeah i lost
[08:31] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: no luck so far still trying.
[08:31] <Wookie> tonyyarusso: thanks..
[08:31] <dabaR> weissi: he is a bot.
[08:31] <Wookie> dpkg pours a bag of times just have wired their bot only spit out the p4 3.06 system?
[08:31] <chris86wm> omg, its working
[08:31] <weissi> oops ;-)
[08:31] <Wookie> the e doesnt work, i might be working in topic answering that
[08:31] <Wookie> oh, oops
[08:32] <bob2> dabaR: ?
[08:32] <Wookie> 'pop out' ?
[08:32] <kemik> HAL is it you?!
[08:32] <Wookie> foampeace, mount -o loop -t nat -a | grep hal process?
[08:32] <dabaR> bob2: help yourself to some of this.
[08:32] <Wookie> limewier is hosted by yourself and find certain things very quickly get screen fulls of earth :)
[08:32] <kemik> why not just kick it ?
[08:32] <Wookie> kick
[08:32] <bob2> kick what?
[08:32] <Wookie> kick doesn't generate random poles they buy the bottom of that extends jframe the 400 | regex substitution, so the same as the windows version of daemon-tools or alcohol 120%
[08:33] <chris86wm> i just had to leave the user name blank when i logged in
[08:33] <Wookie> you didn't have to, i didn't feel like an entirely different than an errormessage when you logged into a ballpark
[08:33] <weissi> so, is there no way to boot the ubuntu-installer via 1..n (n<5 if possible) floppies and get the rest via net?
[08:33] <Wookie> floppies on cd-s, while to /usr/x11/include?
[08:33] <chris86wm> LMAO
[08:33] <Wookie> lmao
[08:33] <N6REJ> chris86wm: weird
[08:33] <Wookie> chris86wm: let me think it xorg 7.0rc i'm getting worried then modular x it probably a good idea :s
[08:33] <Madpilot> bob2: kick the Wookie?
[08:33] <Wookie> i have a part, quit, or kick
[08:33] <chris86wm> N6REJ: thanks for the help
[08:33] <Wookie> n6rej: have you are asking people to access ubuntu
[08:34] <N6REJ> bob, how can I add the dapper repository's to my sources.list?
[08:34] <Wookie> bob2, well bob, its longer :)
[08:34] <bob2> N6REJ: don't
[08:34] <Wookie> n6rej: it looks like best: http://www.shellshark.net/images/buscard1.png
[08:34] <kemik> Wookie:  HAL  ?
[08:34] <Wookie> marcion, -a | grep hal process?
[08:34] <dabaR> Wookie: check it out.
[08:34] <Wookie> like how can i check the know about mysql 3.23, is included
[08:34] <bob2> Wookie: anyway, you don't appear to be talking about ubuntu, so pease come back on-topic or go
[08:34] <Wookie> just wanted the whole joy of the card won't appear in the network adapter?
[08:35] <Razor-X> Wookie: HAL ?
[08:35] <Wookie> and our ninja friends showing no hal process?
[08:35] <dabaR> Wookie: har har
[08:35] <Wookie> chaumurky i'm just so i can do it
[08:35] <kemik> Wookie:  turing test
[08:35] <Wookie> theres a test a method of writing to the string null, you're much about upnp but trouble for me lately
[08:35] <bob2> Wookie: yea or nay?
[08:35] <Wookie> yay or nay?
[08:35] <Myrtti> Wookie: null?
[08:36] <dabaR> Wookie: is that fast typing?
[08:36] <Wookie> actually, to others have a fast about a module
[08:36] <N6REJ> bob2: I've got myself into a pickle... I was trying to install firefox 1.5 and I found some ubuntu .debs on ftp.osuosl.org and now I've got about 10 packages that need more dependencies, and they conflicting with breezy because they are newer then breezy.
[08:36] <Wookie> maybe its conflicting with sha512 to be used as crappy and write one more question: i'm using webrick locally or for sb16 or just write etch
[08:36] <bob2> N6REJ: get the hell rid of them all
[08:36] <Wookie> n6rej: did you try other net
[08:36] <Razor-X> Wookie: who are you?
[08:36] <Wookie> why can't you?
[08:36] <Razor-X> Wookie: why can't you?
[08:36] <Wookie> gotta go, anyway, so i did i, but it for you?
[08:36] <N6REJ> bob2: how can I do that without breaking anything?
[08:37] <bob2> N6REJ: dpkg -P --force-depends all of them
[08:37] <N6REJ> ok.
[08:37] <dabaR> N6REJ: like me, I had some down time off the web today cause of playing with external debs.
[08:37] <N6REJ> let me make notes, cause synaptic wants to uninstall about half of breezy to fix it.
[08:38] <qt2> Wookie, hm?
[08:38] <N6REJ> all I wanted to do was upgrade to FF1.5 sheeesh.
[08:38] <bob2> you won't be using synaptic for this
[08:38] <dabaR> well, happens. ya, write it down, so you can reinstall what you need, that is really what got me, I did not look too well what I uninstalled when repairing.
[08:38] <Stampertje> where can i manually paste some webadress in synaptic ?
[08:38] <bob2> N6REJ: installing packages from dapper on breezy is a very poor way to try to do that
[08:38] <Stampertje> can't find it anywhere
[08:38] <bob2> N6REJ: installing random .debs you find on the internet is also a bad plan
[08:38] <dabaR> Stampertje: in repositories.
[08:38] <bob2> N6REJ: either get the tarball from mozilla.org or use he "backports"
[08:38] <Stampertje> well i've installed the nl version
[08:38] <Stampertje> which sux
[08:38] <bob2> Stampertje: why would synaptic want a url pasted into it?
[08:38] <qt2> Wookie, what were you on about?
[08:39] <Stampertje> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[08:39] <Stampertje> i want that
[08:39] <Stampertje> in it
[08:39] <Stampertje> ;)
[08:39] <bob2> Stampertje: then put that in /etc/apt/sources.list, if you're sure it's correct
[08:39] <bob2> qt2: Wookie cannot speak in here
[08:39] <N6REJ> bob2: heres, where I got the files... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[08:39] <mettallicat> how about wineX
[08:39] <qt2> Wookie, lol, why's that?
[08:39] <Stampertje> how about it mettallicat
[08:39] <bob2> N6REJ: as above, do not install random .debs
[08:39] <Madpilot> bob2: it's too bad ops can't force-move someone to another channel ;) offtopic could do with a turing-bot
[08:39] <bob2> qt2: enough
[08:39] <N6REJ> bob2: ok.
[08:40] <qt2> bob2, err... okay? o.O;
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> I think I just installed an extension in Firefox that's causing trouble, and it won't let me uninstall.
[08:40] <mettallicat> Stampertje, do u have wineX deb ?
[08:40] <N6REJ> bob2: can I get a list of the broken packages?
[08:40] <bob2> qt2: wookie cannot reply to you.  if you want to continue discussing with it, use /msg
[08:40] <dabaR> its annoying answers even when you do not talk to it, Madpilot
[08:40] <mettallicat> i want :D
[08:40] <bob2> N6REJ: being in that dir just means that it's for some version of ubuntu, not neccessarily the one you have
[08:40] <qt2> bob2, it's a bot?
[08:40] <bob2> mettallicat: winex is proprietary software, www.transgaming.com
[08:40] <bob2> qt2: don't know, don't care
[08:40] <bob2> Madpilot: you can set redirect bans, I think
[08:41] <mettallicat> bob2, i know :( and i cry
[08:41] <dabaR> Stampertje: Settings>Repositories>Add>Custom.
[08:41] <qt2> bob2, was just wondering why it said my name, dont gotta get annoyed at me.... i'll go back to idling now. x.x;
[08:41] <bob2> qt2: sorry, not annoyed, just trying to stop this conversation asap ;)
[08:41] <Stampertje> dabaR, i found it already :)
[08:41] <Stampertje> but everything is in dutch
[08:41] <qt2> bob2, okay, i'll drop it ^.^;
[08:41] <Stampertje> and i can't even understand much of it
[08:41] <chaumurky> damn walking carpet
[08:41] <Stampertje> english is better
[08:42] <dabaR> ya, that is why dutch people choose to talk dutch, cause english is better.
[08:43] <ruiwen> hi how do i install apache-1.3.34 in ubuntu?
[08:43] <bob2> ruiwen: why that version in particular?
[08:44] <chaumurky> has anyone noticed a difference to cd/dvd performance by turning 'unmaskirq' on in hdparm.conf??
[08:44] <ruiwen> bob2: =) actually not that version exactly.. just the 1.3 version, not apache 2 that comes default
[08:44] <bob2> ruiwen: apt-cache show apache
[08:44] <dabaR> ruiwen: install the apache package.
[08:46] <coz> hello all
[08:46] <coz> problem with xchat
[08:47] <coz> anyone avaiable
[08:47] <nutterpc> what sorta issues
[08:47] <chaumurky> I'm on nirc - not much use coz
[08:47] <freelove> how do i change the usplash??
[08:47] <coz> well this is the second time this has occured
[08:47] <bob2> freelove: how much do you care?
[08:47] <viperX> Hey guys, does anyone know how to download and install themes for Firefox?
[08:47] <coz> i have a clean install of breezy and when I go into xchat and put my name in
[08:48] <coz> I get a messeag that soem"nick something or other already has that name
[08:48] <coz> Under settings all that it says is connect or disconnect and not join channerl stc
[08:48] <dabaR> nice.
 in firefox go 'tools' -> 'themes'. then click get more themes.
[08:48] <nutterpc> that generally means if u have connected to a server
[08:48] <holycow> coz, try another nick?
[08:48] <nutterpc> and it says that, that someone else on that server is already using that name
[08:48] <coz> but I havn't and the last time this happened I just uninstalled an then reinstalled xchat and it was fine
[08:48] <dabaR> freelove: search for splash in synaptic.
[08:49] <coz> this time it didn't work
[08:49] <Ej25goddess> Hi chaumurkey im back :)
[08:49] <coz> any suggestions
[08:49] <holycow> coz, it just means someone on the network is using your nick
[08:49] <coz> ok I will log off and try again
 you may have a zombie xchat process running??
[08:49] <N6REJ> bob2: OMG I went from 10 broken packages to 67 by removing them :'(
[08:49] <chaumurky> missed him damn
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> Can I disable all of my Firefox extensions at once?  (So I can reenable them one at a time.)
[08:50] <holycow> tonyyarusso, no
[08:50] <N6REJ> whew!!! all fixed now.... ty bob2!
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> holycow: Shoot.
[08:50] <cosimo> no go guy this is the message I got this time -
[08:50] <cosimo> * End of /MOTD command.
[08:50] <cosimo> * Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect
[08:50] <cosimo> * ubuntu :That channel doesn't exist
[08:50] <Stampertje> all those problems in here.. damn i'm getting regrets already lol
[08:50] <holycow> shoot what? i gave you the answer
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> holycow: Any idea how to force an uninstall of one?
[08:51] <holycow> tonyyarusso, yes, remove it manually
[08:51] <viperX> Ok, I'm on the Firefox theme site, but when I click on the install button of the theme that I want, nothing happens
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> holycow: How?
[08:51] <N6REJ> oh well, guess I'm stuck with ff 1.07 until 1.5 gets into repository :(
[08:51] <viperX> anybody else experiencing this?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> holycow: FF is installed to /opt/firefox, btw.
[08:52] <holycow> tonyyarusso, most are locatd in your .mozila firefox extensions dir
[08:52] <itouchedpussy> are any of you able to help me get my sound working again?
[08:53] <holycow> itouchedpussy, depends on yoru question.  please ask a technical question
[08:53] <bob2> N6REJ: once they're gone "sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop" can unbreak the rest
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> holycow: I think I found them.  Now I just have to figure out which one it is!
[08:53] <crimsun> itouchedpussy: lspci -v|grep -i audio ; amixer
[08:53] <crimsun> itouchedpussy: output to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:53] <Stampertje> bob2 he is gone already
[08:53] <itouchedpussy> holycow: well it works in games and other things, but programs like xmms will ask if my sound card is blocked by another program
[08:54] <crimsun> itouchedpussy: change xmms to use the ALSA output plugin
[08:54] <holycow> itouchedpussy, also please change your nick
[08:54] <holycow> this is a family channel
[08:54] <Razor-X> thank you holycow
 ok now? you may have a zombie xchat process running??
[08:54] <coz> OK guys this is a no go. i cannot get on as normal on this xchat I will paste the message I get when I log on normally if anyohne would be willing to look at it
[08:55] <viperX> what dir are ff themes stored in?
[08:55] <coz> OK how do I change that
[08:55] <chaumurky> me?
[08:55] <coz> yes chaumurky  how would i foind out
[08:55] <coz> find
[08:55] <frank_b> can anyone tell me how can I add the time an date option in gnome's panel? (I accidentaly deleted the panel)
[08:56] <elemenze> um, i'm the one who was just in with the inappropriate username, and i need those commands again =(
[08:56] <chaumurky> opn the syatem monitor and check the list of processes
[08:56] <coz> frank_ b right click on the bar add to panal
[08:56] <elemenze> oh, nevermind
[08:56] <frank_b> coz, yes, but i don't see the time and date option
[08:56] <frank_b> coz, ahhh
[08:56] <coz> whoa hold on I will check mine
[08:56] <frank_b> coz, forget it
[08:57] <frank_b> coz, it's in "clock"!
[08:57] <elemenze> holycow: who was the other person helping me?
[08:57] <linuxaddicts> gday all
[08:57] <coz> right
[08:57] <frank_b> coz, I'm a moron
[08:57] <coz> me too thats why I namced myself doof
[08:57] <frank_b> hehe
[08:58] <frank_b> coz, sorry to bother you then
[08:58] <crimsun> elemenze: lspci -v|grep -i audio ; amixer
[08:58] <coz> chaumurky what was this about  xchat thing
[08:58] <viperX> Does anyone know what dir firefox themes are stored in?
[08:58] <frank_b> coz, thanks for your help
[08:58] <coz> no problem
[08:58] <elemenze> crimsun: ah, there you are XD
[08:58] <elemenze> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/460533
[08:58] <chaumurky> I just thought if you had an IRC client process running in the background you may be getting the login errors - just a thought
[08:59] <coz> This is the message I get when I try to log onto xchat normally  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html
[08:59] <viperX> and how do I open a .jar file?
[08:59] <dabaR> viperX: what is in it?
[08:59] <crimsun> viperX: java -jar foo.jar
[08:59] <chaumurky> java -j <name>.jar
[08:59] <chaumurky> oops
[08:59] <chaumurky> wrong platform...
[08:59] <coz> would somone look at this and tell me what the heck isgoing on? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html
[09:00] <crimsun> elemenze: are you using ordinary analog speaker-out?
[09:00] <chaumurky> hang on.
[09:00] <jmibanez> ok, how does one go about diagnosing why a usb thumb drive's volume isn't being detected by hal?
[09:00] <viperX> It's a theme for Firefox. i had to download it manually because the install link isn't working for me for some reason.....
[09:00] <elemenze> crimsun: what do you mean by that?
[09:00] <dabaR> coz: what nickname comes up with that?
[09:00] <pitti> jmibanez: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[09:00] <jmibanez> (on one pc w/ breezy it works; on another, the volume (sda1) isn't seen by hal and doesn't show up in hal-device-manager)
[09:00] <jmibanez> pitti, ah, thanks
[09:00] <coz> NickServ
[09:00] <pitti> jmibanez: then please file a bug and include the logs
[09:00] <coz> dabaR "NickServ"
[09:01] <topyli> coz: if it's your nick, then identify it. what exactly is the problem?
[09:01] <chaumurky> ./msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:01] <crimsun> elemenze: are you using the digital output (spdif connection)?
[09:01] <dabaR> coz: you try your nickname to be nickserv? that is taken.
[09:01] <viperX> dabaR should I move the theme that I downloaded into the extensions folder for Filefox?
[09:01] <coz> OK Normally I put my name in log on and go under sserve to choose where i want ot go
[09:01] <elemenze> crimsun: i still don't understand what you mean ><
[09:01] <dabaR> viperX: is it a .jar file?
[09:01] <coz> Now u the only thin gunder server is connect and idssconnect
[09:01] <coz>  ther is no list at all
[09:01] <viperX> Yep!
[09:02] <chaumurky> strange
[09:02] <coz> I didn't use nickserv
[09:02] <coz> it brought that up on its own
[09:02] <chaumurky> ahha
[09:02] <dabaR> coz: what name, is it "coz"? did you ever register the coz nick?
[09:02] <crimsun> elemenze: ok, then disregard that question. In a Terminal, amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[09:02] <coz> I believe so but if not how do I do thatagain?
[09:03] <dabaR> coz: the nick server is telling you coz is registered, if coz is you, idenitify yourself.
[09:03] <elemenze> crimsun: done
[09:03] <topyli> coz: you don't, you just identify yourself with your password. just like nickserv is telling you
[09:03] <coz> I am coz  but no password
[09:03] <viperX> would it be alright to move the .jar file to the extensions folder for Firefox?
[09:03] <chaumurky>   /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[09:03] <dabaR> coz: and you never set up a password?
[09:03] <coz> nope
[09:03] <elemenze> crimsun: ach, brb
[09:03] <crimsun> elemenze: did you change XMMS to use the ALSA plugin?
[09:03] <elemenze> crimsun: yes
[09:04] <topyli> coz: isn't that a bit silly?
[09:04] <dabaR> viperX: where did you get the .jar?
[09:04] <elemenze> crimsun: i've tried all plugins (except disk writer)
[09:04] <elemenze> crimsun: brb
[09:04] <coz> on xchat?? It never asked for apassworkd
[09:04] <dabaR> coz: someone took your nick, it seems.
[09:04] <dabaR> is k and d close on the kybd? I always see that typo.
[09:04] <coz> how do I register again?
[09:04] <viperX> From the Firefox themes site. The install link doesn't work when i press on it, so I downloaded it manually.
[09:04] <dabaR> passwork, it is on opposite side of my kybd.
[09:05] <dabaR> viperX: I have no idea how that works with Firefox, I dont even use that windows program.
[09:05] <Vivid2005> hi
[09:05] <viperX> oh...
[09:05] <coz> OK guys how do I register my nick?
[09:05] <Vivid2005> Anybody awake??
[09:06] <qt2> err, does remote desktop work if a user is not logged in? o.O;
[09:06] <dabaR> coz: someone already did, you can not any more.
[09:06] <chaumurky>   /msg NickServ ID
[09:06] <coz> Ok how do I register another nick
[09:06] <chaumurky> !register
[09:06] <ubotu> I guess register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[09:06] <topyli> coz: /msg NickServ help
[09:06] <coz> I type that here?
[09:06] <chaumurky> yes
[09:06] <dabaR> chaumurky: look. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html that is what coz gets when he signs onto freenode.
[09:07] <coz> REGISTER
[09:07] <dabaR> chaumurky: one ahead of me.
[09:07] <topyli> uhh
[09:07] <dabaR> coz: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <coz> -NickServ- REGISTER
[09:07] <chaumurky> that's what I said. Don't worry......
[09:08] <coz> what?? off topic??
[09:08] <dabaR> Vivid2005: did you have a question for the asleep?
[09:08] <dabaR> coz: ya, Ill show you how to do it.
[09:08] <topyli> coz: many people and 1 bot have told you many times :)
[09:08] <Vivid2005> -NickServ- REGISTER Vivid
[09:08] <coz> I cannot go to another server normally that s what I was trying to tell you
[09:08] <coz> let me try to find it
[09:08] <qt2> okay then, is there a way i can set up ubuntu to automatically log in as a certain user?
[09:09] <topyli> coz: don't find it. just join it
[09:09] <freelove> what command cleans my var/cache/apt/archive ?
[09:09] <freelove> its full i cant download anything!
[09:09] <chaumurky> sudo apt-get clean
[09:09] <coz> You don't seem to understand there is NO list to join I have to g into another menyu hold on
[09:09] <freelove> chaumurky: will it move it to trash or permanent clean?
[09:09] <topyli> list? join the channel -- /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:09] <chaumurky> perm
[09:10] <Stampertje> fuck this i just did the stupidest thing
[09:10] <Stampertje> :(
[09:10] <freelove> chaumurky: good
[09:10] <Stampertje> i couldn't edit fstab
[09:10] <elemenze> crimsun: i just restarted X, and xmms is working along with the system sounds, but sound in games like tuxracer, bzflag and armagetron doesn't work
[09:10] <Vivid2005> I have two questions...
[09:10] <Stampertje> so i echo'ed a line to it.. i thought
[09:10] <jmibanez> is hald supposed to get permission denied errors while trying to read /dev/sda of a usb thumb drive?
[09:10] <Stampertje> no everything is gone except for the line i echoed
[09:10] <Vivid2005> I couldn't edit fstab
[09:10] <chaumurky> my favourite 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get clean'
[09:11] <crimsun> elemenze: you need to stop esd before you play those games.
[09:11] <Stampertje> well i tried in root shell chmod 777 /etc/fstab
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: how do i stop esd?
[09:11] <jmibanez> specifically, addon-storage.c:283 is logging "open failed for /dev/sda: Permission denied"
[09:11] <Stampertje> but that didn't work very well
[09:11] <crimsun> elemenze: uncheck the box in System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: and is thre a way to start it
[09:11] <Stampertje> so i echo'ed that fuckin line
[09:11] <Stampertje> :/
[09:11] <topyli> chaumurky: it's good to keep a cache so you can revert broken upgrades
[09:11] <chaumurky> language
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: thanks
[09:11] <crimsun> elemenze: to restart it, simply recheck that box
[09:11] <Stampertje> can i turn it back somehow ?
[09:11] <Vivid2005> I am the only user on my ubuntu, but I am not allowed to log in with the root !!!!!!!
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: awesome
[09:11] <Stampertje> because if i reboot now i think it's all fucked up
[09:12] <crimsun> !tell Vivid2005 about root
[09:12] <jmibanez> anyone? who's handling hald?
[09:12] <Stampertje> you can't login with root
[09:12] <Stampertje> only in shell
[09:12] <Stampertje> or reboot and try recovery mode
[09:12] <chaumurky> spose, but my repositorie's local and doesn't count as quota from my IAP. I'm on a 12Mb line so....
[09:12] <Stampertje> not sure about that though
[09:12] <chaumurky> *ISP
[09:12] <elemenze> crimsun: great! when i use the alsa plugin on xmms, music still comes out! ^^
[09:12] <Vivid2005> If it is not possible to log in with the root, I want to create a user with the permissions of root!!
[09:12] <Stampertje> ghehe
[09:13] <elemenze> crimsun: wait, not it doesn't, jut my imagination =\
[09:13] <crimsun> Vivid2005: you already did -- your user is capable of using sudo
[09:13] <bdiscoe> I have 5.04 and want to upgrade to 5.10... but Ubuntu site doesn't say how to do that.  Can anyone tell me?  Is is simple?
[09:13] <Stampertje> adduser user -u 0 -g 0 -d /
[09:13] <Stampertje> i think
[09:13] <jmibanez> ah, ignore that, found the problem
[09:13] <Stampertje> something like that
[09:13] <chaumurky> sudo passwd
[09:13] <chaumurky> oops..
[09:13] <Ej25goddess> chaumurky, can I ask a question of you?
[09:13] <chaumurky> yes
[09:13] <crimsun> elemenze: come again?
[09:13] <elemenze> crimsun: oh yes it does, my volume was jsut down
[09:13] <jmibanez> borken installation-- hal apparently isn't a member of plugdev-- hence the problem
[09:13] <crimsun> elemenze: heh
[09:13] <elemenze> crimsun: nevermind, everything is fine, thanks for everything
[09:13] <Ej25goddess> I redownloaded ubuntu, checked it with the md5 file, and burned it at the slowest speed my burner would do
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> which is 8x
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> this time i am installing it on the lapptop that worked just fine with the live cd
[09:14] <chaumurky> but.....
[09:14] <chaumurky> yes.....
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> but durrinig hte install, it said that a package (i think) didnt work durring thet install
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> but thtat I could install it later
[09:14] <chaumurky> which?
[09:14] <Vivid2005> what the f. is sudo???
[09:14] <Stampertje> can someone plz paste the content of fstab to me in query ??
[09:15] <chaumurky> may not be critical
[09:15] <Stampertje> oh w8
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> when it finally booted the first time, it wouldnt let me configure network settings
[09:15] <crimsun> Vivid2005: did you read the url that I had sent to you?
[09:15] <chaumurky> man sudo
[09:15] <Stampertje> that shit is different for anyone
[09:15] <Stampertje> fuck this
[09:15] <Stampertje> :D
[09:15] <chaumurky> !language
[09:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, chaumurky
[09:15] <chaumurky> LOL!!
[09:15] <bdiscoe> I have 5.04 and want to upgrade to 5.10... but Ubuntu site doesn't say how to do that.  Can anyone tell me?  Is is simple?
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> the live version automatically configures itself
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> and hops onto my wireless
[09:15] <Syntux> Syntux error!
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> and everything works just fine without me eeven touching it
[09:15] <Vivid2005> ahhhh !! THX!
[09:16] <chaumurky> ahh you may need ndiswrapper package?
[09:16] <Ej25goddess> is there anyway tto do an ftp install of ubuntu?
[09:16] <chaumurky> so you can boot to the install though
[09:16] <Ej25goddess> yeah
[09:16] <cosimo> Ok I am here again but xchat is still wrong
[09:16] <Ej25goddess> ii just cant confiigure any of the network settings
[09:16] <robitaille> bdiscoe,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:16] <crimsun> Stampertje: we avoid use of that language here.
[09:16] <chaumurky> you just need to get wireless to work, yes?
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> correct
[09:17] <chaumurky> ahh, not just wireless
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> this laptop doesnt even have a jack for a wired network
[09:17] <chaumurky> wow
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> old school.
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> botht of the computers I have right now are pIII 750s
[09:17] <bdiscoe> robitaille, thanks!  I can't imagine why the Ubuntu site doesn't link to the upgrade instructions.
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> one desktop and one laptop
[09:17] <chaumurky> unfortunately I'm not familiar with ndiswrapper or wireless. There may be others more able to help
[09:17] <dabaR> they have that new 150$ laptops for children.
[09:18] <Stampertje> crimsun, sorry will not happen again
[09:18] <cosimo> dabR this is still incorrect!
[09:18] <iTunes> how am i gonna setup ftpd ? ive tried.. but no luck
[09:18] <chaumurky> ok, I got confudes
[09:18] <Ej25goddess> is there any sort of ftp install for ubuntu?
[09:18] <robitaille> bdiscoe,   the site doesn't have a lot of detailed info.  The wiki is the place to look at for things like that.
[09:18] <dabaR> cosimo: what does "thanks doof out" mean?
[09:18] <Stampertje> but i'm just pissed because of my own stupidity
[09:18] <Stampertje> :P
[09:18] <cosimo> I am a doof
[09:18] <freelove> whats the best window manager apart from kde & gnome?
[09:18] <chaumurky> ftp using what kind of connection?
[09:18] <freelove> any recommendations?
[09:18] <cosimo> if you go under the menu "server' What do you see?
[09:18] <fdelacruz> hi there anyone already use firestar? any advice or tutorial for newbie
[09:19] <topyli> cosimo: happily registered now?
[09:19] <cosimo> No happily at all
[09:19] <topyli> dang
[09:19] <dabaR> freelove: there is no best. You can learn about names of a few at http://xwinman.org/
[09:19] <Ej25goddess> using a wireless connection
[09:19] <Ej25goddess> just like the live setup does
[09:19] <chaumurky> freelove you're killing me
[09:19] <cosimo> ok under the menu "server" what is listed there?
[09:19] <Stampertje> Anyone knows if there is some where I can reset fstab to like 30mins ago or something ?
[09:20] <dabaR> Stampertje: man, your question was simple, and you were cluttering it with your speech.
[09:20] <dabaR> what, you want fstab to be normal restricted permissions instead of 777?
[09:20] <Stampertje> i apoligized for it
[09:20] <Vivid2005> Is it possible to change the optic of the GNOME-Menue??? In my opinion, the menue is tooo big! I want smaller Icons in the dropdown-Menue!!
[09:20] <rambo3> try tp see if there is fstab~ file
[09:20] <Vivid2005> menu
[09:20] <chaumurky> hmm, there is a net install I think - but your problem will stop you from getting an ftp connection won't it?
[09:20] <topyli> Stampertje: restore your fstab from yesterday's backups
[09:20] <dabaR> Stampertje: I dont care about the words, or apology, I am just noticing how you delayed your own answer.
[09:20] <topyli> Stampertje: now you're going to say you don't do backups
[09:20] <Stampertje> topyli, i installed it 3 hours ago
[09:21] <cosimo> anyone can do this... look under the meu item "server" and tell me what you see listed there
[09:21] <topyli> Stampertje: oh man
[09:21] <iTunes> :|
[09:21] <topyli> Stampertje: you'll have to write a new one
[09:21] <Stampertje> well can you give me yours ? so i can rewrite mine ? :P
[09:21] <Stampertje> i have no clue what to put in it
[09:22] <topyli> Stampertje: sure, but mine will be all wrong of course
[09:22] <Stampertje> yes i understand that :)
[09:22] <chaumurky> *goes back to work for a while*
[09:22] <chaumurky> exit
[09:22] <Stampertje> well i can't help it.. i've used windows for many many years
[09:23] <Stampertje> but my pc is euhh sort of wasted
[09:23] <Stampertje> can't run windows no more
[09:23] <rob1> Seveas,  are you around?
[09:23] <Stampertje> :D
[09:23] <cosimo> dabaR sorry to interrupt but this didn't solve the prolbme
[09:23] <topyli> Stampertje: http://pastebin.com/460545
[09:25] <topyli> Stampertje: btw, i hate private windows :)
[09:25] <Stampertje> private ?
[09:26] <Stampertje> there are some things i just can't do in linux which i really need though
[09:26] <Vivid2005> Is it possible to change the optic of the GNOME-Menue??? In my opinion, the menu is tooo big! I want smaller Icons in the dropdown-Menu!!
[09:26] <topyli> Stampertje: yeah, /msg windows popping up from folks on support channels
[09:26] <Stampertje> yeah sorry i thought u were gonna give it to me in query
[09:26] <Stampertje> and i accidentially hit the dcc chat button
[09:27] <cosimo> anyone can yo help with this xchat problem
[09:27] <Stampertje> and it didn't want to buzz off
[09:27] <Stampertje> :P
[09:27] <Vivid2005> Is a manual for ubuntu available??
[09:28] <topyli> Stampertje: look a bit up, i pasted an url for you. my fstab is there
[09:28] <Stampertje> yes i've seen it thanks :)
[09:28] <Razor-X> Vivid2005: most standard Linux books should help you navigate the waters
[09:28] <Stampertje> know what thanks a lot!
[09:28] <dabaR> Vivid2005: check out the starget guide at http://help.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <Stampertje> lol i almost got stargate out of that one
[09:29] <topyli> Stampertje: how is your disk partitioned?
[09:29] <Stampertje> ehm i didn't partitioned it
[09:29] <cosimo> dabaR the problem isn't the nick I had it is the program itself
[09:29] <Stampertje> 2 hdd's
[09:29] <Stampertje> 20gig for ubuntu
[09:29] <Stampertje> and 120gig with my warez :p
[09:30] <Stampertje> i was trying to get that one working
[09:30] <Stampertje> ntfs hdd
[09:30] <Stampertje> need my music ;)
[09:30] <topyli> Stampertje: so you have one big partition on both disks, and the installer probably made a swap partition
[09:30] <iTunes> dabaR how can i set up ftpd ?
[09:30] <Stampertje> yup it did
[09:30] <dabaR> Stampertje: you should paste your fstab somewhere, so we can look, and say what your problem with fstab is.
[09:30] <Stampertje> i don't have a problem
[09:31] <dabaR> iTunes: you should use sftpd, ftpd sends passwords in plain text.
[09:31] <Stampertje> i just echo'ed this line: echo /dev/Y /mnt/ntfs ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0 > fstab
[09:31] <dabaR> iTunes: install vsftpd for sftpd, or proftpd for ftpd. Again, I suggest, and use the former.
[09:31] <Stampertje> i missed one >
[09:31] <Stampertje> :p
[09:31] <Stampertje> needed 2 of them
[09:31] <topyli> Stampertje: yeah, one typo is enough :)
[09:31] <Stampertje> damn stupid thing to do
[09:31] <Vivid2005> the waters... but isn't a pdf availabe or so??
[09:31] <dabaR> cosimo: I got that by now, ya, fix the program.
[09:32] <dabaR> cosimo: I use irssi, I can not tell you anything about xchat.
[09:32] <topyli> Stampertje: a "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-svass" first would have made a difference too :)
[09:32] <iTunes> dabaR ok.. ill try it out
[09:33] <ruiwen> hi.. how do i activate (not sure if that's the word) php in apache?
[09:33] <cosimo> well does andyone here use xchat????
[09:33] <Madpilot> !tell ruiwen about apache
[09:33] <dabaR> ruiwen: you install a php plugin for apache
[09:33] <kwtm1> Hello!
[09:33] <Madpilot> ruiwen: the wiki URL that ubotu should have just sent you has all the info you need for apache+php
[09:34] <Stampertje> probably yes
[09:34] <Stampertje> :P
[09:34] <cosimo> who is using xchat here tongiht?
[09:34] <chaumurky> nirc ;-)
[09:34] <kwtm1> How do I use the command-line to get a list of available deb packages that can be installed in Ubuntu, the way that Synaptic or Adept lists the available packages?  I tried using "dpkg -l <PackageName>" or "dpkg -l | grep <PackageName>", but it could not seem to find packages that were clearly listed as available in Synaptic or Adept.  Am I missing something?
[09:34] <Stampertje> if i reboot now i can't get in ubuntu probably right ?
[09:34] <rambo3> tonight?
[09:34] <ruiwen> Madpilot: thanx =)
[09:34] <cosimo> OK now
[09:34] <rambo3> i use zchat , but dont know much about it
[09:34] <holycow> kwtm1, apt-cache search packagename
[09:34] <rambo3> x
[09:35] <snpz> kwtm1, use man apt-cache i think
[09:35] <holycow> kwtm1, also try to use aptitude, apt and aptitude are different apps in their own right
[09:35] <cosimo> anyone using xchat here?
[09:35] <chaumurky> no and no
[09:35] <kwtm1> holycow: will try.  Thx for the suggestion.
[09:35] <snpz> cosimo, yes
[09:35] <kwtm1> cosimo: I'm using xchat.  Why?
[09:35] <holycow> cosimo, sure
[09:35] <cosimo> snpz great
[09:35] <snpz> so?
[09:35] <cosimo> would you do me a favor
[09:36] <snpz> shoot
[09:36] <cosimo> look under the "server" menu and tell me what you havelisted there
[09:36] <snpz> a list of available servers
[09:36] <snpz> :D
[09:37] <cosimo> OK I don't have that under "server" I don't know why it is not there
[09:37] <iTunes> blag
[09:38] <iTunes> seatouch :P
[09:38] <chaumurky> seatouch how you do that
[09:38] <seatouch> :P
[09:38] <chaumurky> the 'third person' thingy
[09:38] <kwtm1> Under "server" I have "Disconnect | Reconnect | Leave Chan | Join Chan | Server Links | Ping Server | Hide Version "
[09:38] <seatouch> chaumurky /me slaps iTunes :P
[09:39] <Vivid2005> Is WINE also available for UBUNTU????????
[09:39] <chaumurky> YESSS!!!!
[09:39] <Vivid2005> :)
[09:40] <iTunes> Vivid2005 yeah :P
[09:40] <Vivid2005> via synaptics??
[09:40] <seatouch> WINE ? :P
[09:40] <iTunes> yes
[09:40] <Vivid2005> k
[09:40] <Vivid2005> how do I start wine??
[09:40] <chaumurky> you dont
[09:40] <p0st> I saved /var/cache/apt/archives without saving the dpkg sources list (packages.gz). how do you reconstruct it so that apt can install packages?
[09:40] <seatouch> :P
[09:40] <chaumurky> wine starts windows programs
[09:41] <chaumurky> i.e. wine windows program.exe
[09:41] <Fujitsu> chaumurky: It runs, not just starts.
[09:41] <chaumurky> well, yes ok...
[09:41] <Vivid2005> so I execute the .exe and wine starts by itself?
[09:41] <topyli> Vivid2005: "wine windows-app.exe"
[09:41] <Vivid2005> ah... k
[09:42] <blag> Vivid2005: install it. from universe. you can learn how to enable universe at http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[09:42] <p0st> ps - i tried deb-file in sources.list, but I think it needs packages.gz
[09:43] <blag> p0st: reload your package list. like, sudo aptitude update
[09:43] <kwtm1> p0st: I have a similar question:
[09:43] <kwtm1> holycow: It worked!  Another thing, if you (or anyone) could help me: say that I have a bunch of deb packages downloaded into some /MyDownloads directory, and I want Synaptic / Aptitude / Adept to find packages there rather than having to download them all again.  How do I set it up so that that directory is recognized as a potential source for deb packages?  I know I probably have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but I am not sure
[09:43] <kwtm1> what to put there.  Or how can I use Synaptic / Adept to help me do it?
[09:43] <p0st> blag: but then where does it look to update the list?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> How can I remove a package and ignore the dependencies (not removing the other things that want to be)?
[09:43] <viperX> Does anyone have Firefox?
[09:44] <chaumurky> huh?
[09:44] <blag> p0st: everywhere in your sources.list
[09:44] <topyli> tonyyarusso: it would be silly, because all that other stuff wouldn't work
[09:44] <chaumurky> doesn't a default Ubuntu install have firefox??
[09:44] <winston> it does
[09:44] <p0st> kwtm1: read man apt. there is a utilitiy to read packages from a CD, but that utility rebuilds the sources.list
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> topyli: It's for when I intend to reinstall, but have to do so from say a downloaded tar or something, or am just having temporary issues, and plan to put it back.
[09:45] <holycow> kwtm1, i donno i know it can be done but i've never looked up the syntax.  i just use dpkg -i to install packages.  i understand why you want to do that tho ... google local file system repositories
[09:45] <kwtm1> viperX: I'm using Firefox.  chaumurky: I think kubuntu uses Konqueror by default.
[09:45] <topyli> p0st: there's practically no apt man page
[09:45] <blag> kwtm1: you would have to make a repo from the debs.
[09:45] <blag> kwtm1: I dont know how.
[09:45] <p0st> blag: I had the directory where the archives are stored in sources.list, but apt didn't see them
[09:45] <chaumurky> ahh, I need to think quicker...
[09:45] <viperX> the install links for themes and extensions don't seem to be working for me. I was wondering if anyone had Firefox could you test the install links on the theme or extensions page to see if they work for you....
[09:46] <topyli> tonyyarusso: you can force dpkg to remove a package, but apt will complain about broken packages after that
[09:46] <viperX> If they work then that means that my firefox app is broken..
[09:46] <blag> p0st: I told you what to do. you need to update package list.
[09:46] <kwtm1> p0st: Didn't you just answer your own question?  You were telling me how to read from a directory, but in your case that directory happens to be /var/cache/apt, right?
[09:46] <p0st> topyli: man sources.list, man aptitude, etc.
[09:46] <topyli> p0st: yes, those are there
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Okay.  That's exactly what I want.
[09:47] <p0st> kwtm1: the original location of those packages is long gone. I saved them when it was too late.
[09:48] <kwtm1> p0st: Oh.  Anyway, re: your suggestion: the man page for "apt" says: This manpage isnt even started.
[09:48] <viperX> kwtml would you mind testing the install links on Firefox's theme page to see if they work on your browser?
[09:48] <viperX> *kwtm1
[09:48] <kwtm1> viperX: unclear what you want.  Do you mean go to the default Firefox page, and see if the links work?  Because I changed my default home page already.
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Can dpkg reinstall?
[09:49] <babygay_16> rg
[09:49] <mantiena> tonyyarusso, yes
[09:49] <henk> how do i tell ld to look in /usr/local/lib for files to link ? /etc/ld.so.conf is not on my system and i was wondering where ubuntu defines the path for ld
[09:49] <topyli> tonyyarusso: sure
[09:49] <viperX> I'm sorry. https://addons.mozilla.org and see if any of the install links for the themes or extensions work for you...
[09:49] <p0st> blag: for example, when you "install" the packages on the unofficial ubuntu addon CD, it adds the packages to the cache, but it also updates the dpkg list, with each line starting with "ii".
[09:50] <icebloodF> huh
[09:50] <Vivid2005> Thx for your help
[09:50] <blag> kwtm1: you could also even update the package list and put the files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ that could work for you too.
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> mantiena, topyli: How?
[09:51] <Vivid2005> One last question is already open!!!!
[09:51] <mantiena> tonyyarusso, dpkg -i package_blablabla.deb
[09:51] <Vivid2005> How can I change the ICON-Size in the dropdown-menu in GNOME??
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> mantiena: And that will overwrite?
[09:52] <mantiena> yes
[09:52] <topyli> tonyyarusso: no-one remembers dpkg commands without referring to the manual page :)
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Right.  Okay.
[09:52] <MrFarts> who is jessica simpson and why should i care ?
[09:53] <kwtm1> viperX: Well, I'll try to install an extension... but I already have some extensions installed.  Does that answer your question, or do you need me to specifically try those extensions on that page?
[09:53] <viperX> Just try one. Just click on it to see if anything happens when you click the link. Thanks~
 where is this going??
[09:54] <p0st> tonyyarusso: are you updating the package cache?
[09:54] <viperX> Well, I'm trying to see if something is wrong with the entire site of if it's just my browser that's broken!
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> p0st: I'm doing this from a tar.gz
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> So actually, I'm crazy; dpkg won't do me any good anyway.
[09:55] <kwtm1> viperX: I clicked on Hide Searchbar under https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&category=Search%20Tools&numpg=10&pageid=6
[09:56] <topyli> tonyyarusso: afterwards, you'll want' to use dpkg-divert to fool dpkg into thinking the package is installed
[09:56] <kwtm1> viperX: and it installed.  The list of extensions says: "This item will be installed the next time you restart Firefox."  Everything as expected.
[09:56] <chaumurky> I just install Tab-X and then removed it. np.
[09:57] <viperX> Then my browser is broken. I'm using adept to manage my packages. Could I use it to uninstall Firefox?
[09:57] <Teh> Greetings again :)
[09:57] <harden> I did this: 1) disconnected my cdrom from power supply and secondary IDE; 2) moved HDD #2 from its position as slave to the CDROM and connected it as slave to HHD #1 on the primary IDE, instead 3) tried to boot 4) boot complains about superblock and that it can't find hdd2. anyone point me in a direction of what's happening?
[09:58] <chaumurky> try apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[09:58] <kwtm1> harden: when it says it can't find "hdd2", does it literally say "hdd2"?
[09:58] <Teh> May I ask waht the difference is between installing formating and installing, or formatting and choosing "use LVM"?
[09:58] <harden> things I should be doing instead 1) sleeping or 2) studying for tomorrow's final :)
[09:58] <harden> yes hdd2, indeed
[09:58] <icebloodF> wdewd
[09:58] <viperX> ok!
[09:58] <chaumurky> oh, make sure the popup blocker lets mozilla in...
[09:59] <icebloodF> hoi
[09:59] <kwtm1> harden: your master hard drive on the main IDE connector is "hda", and its slave is "hdb".  The main drive (your CDROM, it seems) on the secondary IDE connector is "hdc", and its slave is "hdd".
[09:59] <kwtm1> So, by reconnecting your hard drive that way, it has become "hdb".  The second partition is now "hdb2".
[10:00] <kwtm1> harden: If you try to mount it, it won't find "hdd2".  You might want to try this:
[10:00] <chaumurky> guys what's this? "[CTCP]  robitaille requested your version."
[10:00] <kwtm1> harden: "mount /dev/hdb2 /My/Usual/Mount/Directory"
[10:01] <kwtm1> harden: You might want to try "ls /dev/hd*" to see what's available to mount.  (I *think* that works.)
[10:01] <harden> so this fails because fstab thinks it knows where the second HDD is (and its not there)?
[10:02] <kwtm1> harden: correct.  You might want to correct /etc/fstab.  Try manual mounting first to verify that it is indeed "/dev/hdb2" where it is.
[10:02] <kwtm1> harden: shouldn't the final be more important?
[10:02] <harden> indeed, now that I've rebooted, I think I'll try it in the morning; but I had to ask :)
[10:03] <kwtm1> I don't know which IRC software you guys are using, but mine (Xchat) highlights the lines where my name appears.
[10:03] <Teh> When installing shoudl I use LVM or not?
[10:03] <kwtm1> If you don't put "kwtm1" in your lines, sometimes I don't realize that you're talking to me.
[10:03] <harden> also: the final isn't until noon, which is still 9 hours from now CST
[10:04] <chaumurky> i'd need to read up on LVM to answer that. not a bad idea.......
[10:04] <harden> thanks for your help, kwtml
[10:04] <Teh> ok
[10:04] <Teh> :)
[10:05] <harden> or maybe I'll just saty up for....a...bit...
[10:06] <iamphi> hello.  I am having problem viewing vietnamese unicode font with firefox.  I am looking at vietnamese websites, and letters that has accent on them are displayed in a different font face.  Any suggestions?
[10:06] <viviersf> how do i allow passwordless logins in gdm ?
[10:07] <chaumurky> look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. the answers you seek are there
[10:07] <iTunes> ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[10:07] <iTunes> anyone know how i can fix that ?
[10:12] <Nikusan> Wine hangs with 100% CPU usage when I try to install Starcraft.. known bug?
[10:14] <holycow> Nikusan, wrong place to ask probably, no way anyone can really know that :/
[10:14] <royce> i have an hp zv5000 laptop, using live ubuntu cd most of my hardware works great.  I only have issues with my internal wlan card, it a broadcom chip, any ideas, i've heard about ndis wrapping, but I really am a n00b
[10:14] <holycow> google will give you a faster result for such an esoteric issue
[10:15] <qt2> err, how would i set apt to view reccomend packages as required by default?
[10:15] <calamari_> hi
[10:15] <holycow> qt2, say what?
[10:16] <holycow> you can't do that, it's a very very bad idea because every package has recommends
[10:16] <Alpha1> Ubuntu comes with the nvidia driver right? I mean, the proper one?
[10:16] <Alpha1> or was I imagining things?
[10:16] <qt2> heh, okay then.
[10:16] <holycow> you would get a circular dependency all over the place
[10:16] <joedj> Alpha1: yeah, though there's some other stuff you must/should install
[10:16] <irvin> Alpha1, yes
[10:16] <Alpha1> woot, ta.
[10:16] <qt2> Nikusan, #winehq to ask about that.
[10:16] <holycow> in one command you would end up installing everything
[10:16] <CioN> hey all I need a graphic FTP client anyone knows one?
[10:16] <qt2> holycow, ahh.
[10:16] <calamari_> I'm trying to set up an ident server so I can connect to DALnet, but I'm having trouble.  For one thing, firestarter shows ident requests as serious, and blocks them, even after I added an inbound rule to allow all on port 113
[10:16] <Nikusan> qt2, holycow thanks guys, I'll ask there
[10:16] <chrisx1> CioN: gftp
[10:17] <holycow> CioN, gftp
[10:17] <CioN> chrisx1: tried that but it sucks, i blocks after few secs
[10:17] <chrisx1> yer
[10:17] <holycow> coag, nautilus alos does that, also you can mount ftp locations via places / connect to server
[10:17] <chrisx1> i ended up using terminal
[10:17] <royce> if there is an apropriate wiki, point me that direction
[10:17] <irvin> calamari_, i have mine configured to block 113 but i can connect successfully
[10:17] <CioN> chrisx1 man ftp?
[10:17] <chrisx1> yer
[10:18] <calamari_> irvin: any suggestions? I'm all ears :)
[10:18] <CioN> oh man that's long for such a simple task to do
[10:18] <qt2> err, i mean, the kernel, not ubuntu :D
[10:18] <holycow> CioN, what can't you do with gftp?
[10:18] <CioN> holycow: it just crashes
[10:18] <chrisx1> holycow: i find it times out n stuff easily
[10:18] <CioN> yup
[10:19] <CioN> so is terminal quick to use
[10:19] <holycow> ah, was just curious, donno any other graphic clients
[10:19] <holycow> like gftp or so
[10:19] <CioN> i saw all the synopsis and stuff it's kinda long
[10:19] <qt2> calamari_, tried allowing the host as well?
[10:19] <calamari_> irvin: oh, I misread.. are you dsaying that you are blocking ident and dalnet still lets you on?  yes, it can.. but it doesn't allow that for certain isps, like mine hehe
[10:19] <CioN> chrisx1 u set up firestarter to work with ftp?
[10:20] <chrisx1> no
[10:20] <royce> looking for help getting my internal broadcom wireless adapter working in ubunu, any ideas?
[10:20] <chrisx1> i didnt install firestarter
[10:20] <calamari_> qt2: not sure.. how do I do that?
[10:20] <CioN> chrisx1 oh right :D
[10:20] <calamari_> qt2: I just set it to "everyone"
[10:20] <chaumurky> !ndiswrapper
[10:20] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:21] <calamari_> ahh found it nm :)
[10:21] <qt2> ;)
[10:21] <CioN> chrisx1 u configured ftp on term or u set coordinates every time?
[10:21] <chrisx1> what u mean?
[10:21] <CioN> coordinates of ur server
[10:21] <chrisx1> ??
[10:22] <CioN> server, username, password and stuff
[10:22] <chrisx1> yer
[10:22] <CioN> so u don't insert those coordinates everytime u upload?
[10:23] <qt2> firestarter is just a frontend for iptables, correct?
[10:23] <CioN> qt2 yup
[10:24] <viperX> What the command for configure?
[10:25] <xratmx> hall
[10:26] <|boris|> hi. How do I know if my RAID Host adapter "Promise Fasttrak sx4000" will work with Breezy ?
[10:26] <joedj> |boris|: one option is to try it with the live DVD
[10:26] <Maxi> hallo
[10:26] <tetris> ddere
[10:27] <Maxi>  ddere
[10:27] <Maxi> du siehst nicht
[10:27] <chaumurky> sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[10:27] <tetris> asdfasdfas
[10:27] <tetris> hitn
[10:27] <tetris> asdfasdf
[10:29] <chaumurky> haha
[10:29] <royce> i'm looking for advise/information on running ubuntu dual boot
[10:29] <chaumurky> specifically --
[10:30] <royce> with windoze
[10:30] <chaumurky> be specific
[10:31] <chaumurky> and its Windows
[10:31] <ppcguy> hey all.. How would I go about setting my term to boarderless w/ breezy?
[10:31] <rambo3> what
[10:32] <royce> in any case, jst what partition settings would be optimal to avoid conflict with a previously installed windows xp system
[10:32] <chrisx1> :o
[10:33] <chaumurky> just leave as much unpartitioned space free as you can allow. Then let the install partition the unused space.
[10:33] <chaumurky> [CTCP]  robitaille requested your version./exit
[10:34] <ppcguy> what about the reverse? I have breezy installed on my celeron and would like to install XP..But even w/ a live cd boot fdisk and/or qt does not let me resize my hd
[10:34] <royce> will I still be able to have swp partitions, will ubuntu hold my hand through the setup?
[10:35] <zelevw> hi guys...i had to reboot my pc this morning after nothing would work...the messages were that I had a read-only file system...even as the pc shut down some things failed to shutdown because of the read-only issue...
[10:38] <|boris|> joedj, Thanks, I'll try that
[10:40] <e-spy> why /etc/init.d/inetd restart does not work in ubuntu?
[10:40] <e-spy> what is the replacment for that function..
[10:41] <viperX> I'm seriously getting peeved. I downloaded the Firefox 1.5 tar from mozilla. I extracted the firefox folder from the tar and then CD to the firefox folder. I've been trying to execute the ./configure command to compile the program but everytime i do, i get a 'no such file or directory' message. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[10:41] <chaumurky> maybe it's xinetd
[10:41] <e-spy> nope it's not
[10:41] <chaumurky> hmm
[10:42] <linuxaddicts> viperX,i had same prob,
[10:42] <e-spy> i know it's wird
 I've heard that getting FF1.5 to work in 5.10 is a pain.
[10:42] <linuxaddicts> removed older firefox and did a clean install,
[10:42] <viperX> Can someone walk me thru compiling  this program?
[10:42] <linuxaddicts> then it worked
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> viperX: There is no configure.
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> viperX: Check the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, it doesn't need compiling.
[10:45] <viperX> Sorray about that. Blasted program crashed.
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> viperX: There is no configure.  Check the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, it doesn't need compiling.
[10:46] <viperX> Anyway, i have to manually compile the program because everytime that I use my package manager it gives me Firefox 1.0.7; I think that's the reason that the install links for themes and extensions don't work for me.
[10:46] <viperX> I'll check it out...
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> viperX: Make sure to do the step changing where /usr/bin/firefox points to make sure you use the new version.
[10:47] <coz> hello all
[10:47] <Teh> so in my install it just said "cpufreq:hange failed with new_state 1 and result 0"
[10:47] <Teh> err
[10:47] <Teh> change
[10:47] <viperX> k
[10:47] <Teh> should I care?
[10:47] <coz> well all that gave suggestions as to how to fix the xchat problem I was having were all wrong!
[10:48] <coz> dabaR the problem was , as I said the newer version of xchat.
[10:48] <Teh> any thoughts?
[10:48] <coz> for some reason the develper decided to remove all entries under one of the meu items making it nearly impossible to join a channel unless it ws typed in
[10:49] <coz> recover
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Anyone have experience burning audio CDs directly from MP3?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> I'm wondering which apps can do it.
[10:59] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: gnomebaker is good
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: If I just tell it that I'm making and audio CD and add mp3 files to the list, will it figure it out from there?
[11:00] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: you just drag and drop the mp3s and it will make it
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Perfect.
[11:00] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: just make sure you click on Audio Disk tab
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Right.
[11:01] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: if you need to install it the command is sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Already done.
[11:02] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: ok cool
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Any idea why Gnomebaker would want me to be root to burn a CD?
[11:03] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: it shouldn't - k3b doesn't...
[11:04] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: it shouldn't unless there may be files that are owned by root?
[11:04] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: i dont have to run as root or sudo...
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_ & Madpilot: No files belonging to root.  Maybe I need to add an entry to sudoers or some other permissions config to access burning capability?
[11:05] <vbgunz> is it possible to rm -fr a /directory but don't touch /directory/precious ?
[11:06] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: is this the default user you made with ubuntu installation?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Yes.
[11:06] <_Gray_> Go to System > Administration > Users and Groups
[11:07] <_Gray_> then right click your username and select properties
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Yes?
[11:07] <vbgunz> how to delete everything in a directory *except* for only one folder and it's contents?
[11:07] <_Gray_> and under the privileges tab, make sure that it has the permissions right
[11:07] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I've used a lot of the burning apps that're available for Ubuntu, and never had to change my user settings...
[11:08] <_Gray_> madpilot: same here
[11:08] <Elektrochelovek> help
[11:08] <Elektrochelovek> forgot syntax
[11:08] <Elektrochelovek> for bot
[11:08] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: i have all ticked except use tape drive and setup and recieve faxes
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Same.
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> tell java
[11:09] <Baradis> Greetinge
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> info java
[11:09] <calamari_> has anyone here sucessfully set up pidentd under ubuntu?  I can connect via telnet, but I get reponses like this: 61511 , 113 : ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR
[11:09] <Baradis> er, Greetings rather
[11:09] <_Gray_> Elektochelovek: its !tell
[11:09] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: I don't know what's up then
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> _Gray_, thnx!
[11:09] <vbgunz> I assume there is no way to use rm to delete everything in a directory *except* for one sub dir beneath it? correct?
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> !tell java
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> !tell Elektrochelovek
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: All right.
[11:10] <_Gray_> vbgunz: try man rm it might give you some ideas
[11:10] <Elektrochelovek> !tell
[11:10] <Baradis> quick inquiry, seeing as I can;t seem to find it on the website
[11:10] <Elektrochelovek> !tell Elektrochelovek -about java
[11:10] <vbgunz> can someone help me out? What am I looking for that will help delete the contents of a directory *except* for a directory beneath it?
[11:10] <_Gray_> !tell Elektrochelovek about java
[11:10] <Baradis> does ubuntu have inherent NVidia video driver support or do you need to install the drivers manually?
[11:11] <_Gray_> baradis: it has nvidia drivers but only 2d
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Why is Gnomebaker trying to reference mplayer, totem, and java plugins on startup?
[11:11] <Baradis> so for the 3d acelleration you'd have to manually install the binaries?
  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:11] <mjr> Baradis, free 2d drivers are installed by default, the 3d drivers are shipped in the restricted section and are easy to install
[11:11] <vbgunz> _Gray_: I checked info rm, man rm and rm --help. I don't think rm supports this very simple idea *but* I don't dare rule it out... Maybe there is a secret setting or something else I can use :(
[11:12] <Baradis> I'm just checking a few thinga bout ubuntu out befoire I install it on my new computer
[11:12] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: No idea sorry
[11:12] <Baradis> I ordered a few copies to pass out to my lug
[11:12] <viperX> How do I rename a file in the terminal
[11:13] <calamari_> viperX: mv oldname newname
[11:13] <chaumurky> mv <filename> <newfilename>
[11:13] <chaumurky> :-)
[11:13] <viperX> Thanks guys, you rock!
[11:14] <Baradis> is it just me,. or are the commands in ubuntu similar to those in debian
[11:14] <_Gray_> Baradis: ubuntu is a branch of debian
[11:14] <Baradis> oh
[11:14] <Baradis> that explains that then
[11:14] <_Gray_> Baradis: they take the lasted from Sid and make it into ubuntu
[11:15] <yo2lux> hi
[11:16] <raphink> _Gray_: don't say that to Debian people
[11:16] <_Gray_> raphink: say what?
[11:16] <raphink> Ubuntu is, for a big part, synchronized with Debian and works (approximatively) the same way
[11:16] <raphink> but Ubuntu is not Debian
[11:16] <yo2lux> i think exista a command "import" to make screenshots.. I don't have this command in Ubuntu, what need to install for me?
[11:16] <raphink> hi yo2lux
[11:16] <_Gray_> raphink: yeah true tru
[11:16] <raphink> _Gray_: you could say Ubuntu works close to Debian
[11:17] <joedj> yo2lux: i think it's in imagematick
[11:17] <Baradis> my only problem is
[11:17] <joedj> yo2lux: imagemagick
[11:17] <raphink> as for universe package, we synchronize a lot of Debian package & fix them
[11:17] <Baradis> what to do with 32 ubuntu cd's
[11:17] <Baradis> I orderes 6
[11:17] <raphink> _Gray_: you cannnot say that Ubuntu is a branch of Debian, this is not true
[11:17] <Baradis> wound up with40
[11:17] <winston> leave them in libraries
[11:17] <raphink> Baradis: give them out :D :D
[11:18] <raphink> I ordered 20 and never received them
[11:18] <Baradis> I gave copies to all the members of my lug
[11:18] <raphink> maybe you got mine ;)
[11:18] <_Gray_> Baradis: well it's a simplified explanation.. sorry i wasnt exact
[11:18] <Baradis> perhaps
[11:18] <_Gray_> sorry i meant raphink
[11:18] <Baradis> want some? lol
[11:18] <raphink> hehe
[11:18] <Baradis> I never even orderes the mac ones
[11:18] <_Gray_> when i ordered 5 cds i got 50 lol
[11:18] <Baradis> I don't even think theres a mac in this entire province
[11:18] <winston> lol
[11:18] <raphink> _Gray_: just that if you say that to many debianers, they will (sadly) get mad at you for that ;)
[11:19] <_Gray_> raphink: tell em about it. i just act noob and run lol
[11:19] <ajmitch> raphink: to some debian people, not all
[11:19] <raphink> I didn't say all ajmitch ;)
[11:19] <chaumurky> yeah, the whole fork issue rubs some up the wrong way
[11:19] <raphink> many ubuntu devs being debianers ;)
[11:20] <raphink> ajmitch: I wouldn't be here if I had not been a debianer first
[11:20] <ajmitch> raphink: neither would I :)
[11:20] <raphink> :)
[11:20] <Baradis> the very first distro I ever uses was Libranet, a debian based distro
[11:20] <raphink> ajmitch: as you're around ... did you have some time to review my packages?
[11:20] <saik0> how do I see where a symbolic link points from the CLI
[11:20] <Baradis> never tried the full deb though
[11:20] <viperX> ok, I'm trying to run the new firefox, but I keep getting an error saying that it can't find the mozilla runtime directory. any ideas?
[11:20] <marabunt> Hi all
[11:20] <Baradis> always used a deb variant
[11:20] <Oetzi> hi can anyone tell me where i can get automake 1.5
[11:21] <ajmitch> raphink: nope
[11:21] <raphink> Baradis: then you'll be happy with ubuntu ;)
[11:21] <marabunt>     ?
[11:21] <raphink> ajmitch: seems the REVU day was a bit of a failure... not so many packages were reviewed ... the list is still very long
[11:21] <Baradis> provided I can get this new computer built so I got something to install it on, yeah
[11:21] <viperX> Was that Russian or greek?
[11:22] <ajmitch> raphink: not a failure
[11:22] <_Gray_> Grussian?
[11:22] <marabunt> Russian
[11:22] <raphink>   marabunt
[11:22] <ajmitch> raphink: it's a constant task, reviewing..
[11:22] <marabunt>  ?
[11:22] <_Gray_> anyone here installed dapper?
[11:22] <raphink> sure ajmitch
[11:22] <ajmitch> _Gray_: sure
[11:22] <Baradis> anyone want 10 copies of the mac version?
[11:23] <_Gray_> ajmitch: im gon put it on tonight so i can test it out
[11:23] <raphink> ne znaiu marabunt
[11:23] <ajmitch> _Gray_: it's only recommended if you know how to fix things when they break :)
[11:23] <_Gray_> ajmitch: only one way to find out... lol
[11:23] <marabunt> senks
[11:23] <raphink> marabunt: #ubuntu-ru ?
[11:23] <Mchas> hi whabout xubuntu ...?
[11:24] <Mchas> is there a prevew date ?
[11:24] <raphink> marabunt: v #ubuntu-ru - liudi
[11:24] <qt2> Quick question, does ubuntu's lilo install autoboot a kernel after an amount of time?
[11:25] <_Gray_> qt2: it uses grub
[11:25] <_Gray_> qt2: and yes it  defaults to 10 seconds
[11:25] <qt2> _Gray_, yes, by default it does, however, grub didnt work on the pc i was working on, so lilo had to be installed instead.
[11:25] <_Gray_> qt2: oh makes sense
[11:26] <qt2> _Gray_, i knew grub did, was wondering about lilo.
[11:27] <_Gray_> qt2: in your lilo.conf theres a line delay = <number>
[11:27] <_Gray_> qt2: that shows the delay in tenths of seconds
[11:27] <_Gray_> qt2: so 50 = 5 seconds etc.
[11:28] <qt2> ah, i see.
[11:29] <qt2> _Gray_, i'm trying to get lilo set up to autoboot to the desktop after a restart. ;)
[11:30] <qt2> so i can ssh or vnc
[11:31] <saik0> knowing glxgears is'nt a real bechmark, how man fps should I be getting with nvidia-glx
[11:31] <saik0> many*
[11:31] <_Gray_> saik0: that depends on your card
[11:32] <qt2> so by default, as long as the delay is set, and the default is set to Linux, i should be able to send a remote restart signal, and have it autoboot the new kernel, assuming there's no kernel panic??
[11:32] <saik0> _Gray_ GeForce 6800 128 MB
[11:33] <_Gray_> qt2: yes
[11:33] <joedj> !tell me about repos
[11:33] <qt2> _Gray_, cool.
[11:33] <joe_oblivian> hi everybody I've run into an issue installing ubuntu on a ppc with an existing installation of OS X tiger. My problem has already been described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85438
[11:34] <joe_oblivian> if anybody has a solution... it's welcome
[11:35] <qt2> _Gray_, and it's my understanding that if i check the "log in a user automatically on first bootup" and choose a name, that it will automatically log me into the desktop?
[11:35] <soldieruk400> hi all guess what ? ive lost my sound boo hoo lol
[11:36] <_Gray_> qt2: yes you can have gdm automatically bypass the login screen and just go straight to desktop
[11:36] <_Gray_> qt2: System > Administration > Login Screen Setup is where you can configure it.
[11:36] <qt2> _Gray_, shouldnt it require me to input a password somewhere? o.O
[11:36] <qt2> _Gray_, i know, i already did.
[11:37] <soldieruk400> anyone know how to get the speakers working again ?
[11:37] <_Gray_> qt2: you can have it automatically select a user and you just have to input the password, yes
[11:37] <qt2> _Gray_, err would i be able to start up vnc to enter that password?
[11:38] <qt2> _Gray_, or does the remote desktop client not start till after the password has been entered?
[11:38] <_Gray_> qt2: I haven;t used vnc in ages sorry.
[11:39] <em0ng> My computer seems to freeze every time I try to acquire webcam from XSane. How might I fix this? It looks like it pauses when probing USB ports, because when I reboot my computer I have to unplug+replug my mouse.
[11:39] <qt2> well... i'm not sure if it's specifically vnc.... i'm just refrencing ubuntu's "remote desktop" feature"
[11:41] <soldieruk400> is their some sort of roll back to get ubuntu running like it was before the speekers went mute?
[11:41] <rambo3> what did you do after thay worked
[11:43] <soldieruk400> its gone qiet in here
[11:45] <soldieruk400> hi all or anyone .can any one tell me how to get my sound back ?
[11:45] <_Gray_> soldieruk: what did u do to lose it
[11:45] <soldieruk400> im new to this o/s
[11:46] <soldieruk400> i think i uninstaled somthing by mistake to do with the sound but cant find what it was
[11:46] <dockane> hi all ... is just apt-cache searched for lprngtool. (breezy x86) couldn believe that there is no ubuntu .deb for. finally i found it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for hoary (multiverse). whats the best solution now to install it ? from source ? the hoary .deb ?
[11:46] <_Gray_> try sudo alsamixer and see if the meters are up and enabled (m to enable/disable)
[11:46] <soldieruk400> when it bootes up it workes bt after that you dont get anything
[11:47] <soldieruk400> thanks gray ill try that
[11:47] <_Gray_> dockane: .deb would be easier and quicker
[11:47] <rambo3> how do you know if it works? alsa passed doesnt tell much
[11:47] <dockane> _Gray_, yes of course ... but its from hoary (multiverse) and i am runnning breezy
 did you uncomment the multiverse entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update?
[11:47] <chaumurky> oh
[11:47] <chaumurky> not in Breezy?
[11:48] <dockane> nope
[11:48] <chaumurky> very odd
[11:48] <_Gray_> dockane: maybe request it to backports?
[11:48] <dockane> could find it with apt-cache search and http://packages.ubuntu.com/ either (for breezy)
[11:48] <dockane> _Gray_, is that something like a "oops, we missed it for breezy" ?
[11:49] <_Gray_> dockane: you could go ahead and install from source if you really need it. I'd suggest that you file a bug report and say that its missing
[11:49] <dockane> _Gray_, ok ill do so, thx
[11:54] <Seveas> frej, you there?
[11:55] <john_> hi
[11:56] <dnB> is there a command to display the contents of a file inside the shell?
[11:56] <dnB> not to edit?
[11:56] <dockane> is anybody already registered for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+bugs and could fill out the bug form (for missing lprng in breezy multiverse)
[11:56] <Arkainium> dnB, try cat?
[11:56] <dnB> Arkainium, ohhh yeah, thanks :D
[11:57] <aeon17x> *meow*
[11:57] <hydroksyde> hello
[11:57] <Seveas> hi hydroksyde
[11:58] <hydroksyde> do you know if you type your password in IRC, it comes up as stars? ********** see?
[11:58] <Seveas> hydroksyde, you've been reading too much bash.org
[11:59] <hydroksyde> damn
[11:59] <ajmitch> hydroksyde: you know that's a silly thing to do in here..
[11:59] <hydroksyde> why?
[11:59] <winston> password, oh yeah:)
[11:59] <Seveas> because it easily gets you kicked for being stupid
[11:59] <raphink> hydroksyde: no comment
[12:00] <raphink> hydroksyde: wanna play 127.0.0.1 hacking games too ?
[12:00] <hydroksyde> damn... anybody know of any linspire chat rooms?
[12:00] <St^Anger^19m> anybody know of any java help channel other than ##java?
[12:00] <raphink> hydroksyde: try #linspire maybe ...
[12:01] <hydroksyde> nobody home
[12:01] <raphink> too bad for you
[12:02] <raphink> I don't know why you would ask on #ubuntu about linspire channels. I can't think of a distro that is more different from ubuntu
[12:02] <raphink> (imo)
[12:02] <Seveas> raphink, well, linspire is also debian based and aims for end-user satisfaction
[12:02] <Seveas> In a very different way though...
[12:02] <raphink> that doesn't make it closer to me ;)
[12:02] <ajmitch> hydroksyde: maybe ask your local LUG mailing list, there are a few good ones in NZ :)
[12:03] <hydroksyde> was just hoping i'd find some people that would fall for it in a linspire channel
[12:03] <raphink> there's a different between being debian-based in respect to the debian-way  and taking debian devs as whores
[12:03] <ajmitch> hydroksyde: ah, so you're trolling?
[12:03] <hydroksyde> erm... sort of
[12:03] <ajmitch> I'd suggest you don't try it in any other channels :)
[12:04] <Seveas> I hate trolls in the morning
[12:04] <ajmitch> heh
[12:04] <ajmitch> yes, morning here in NZ now
[12:04] <raphink> yeah
[12:04] <raphink> before they take a shower they smell even worse than usual
[12:04] <Seveas> hmm, afternoon already here (12:04), time to get a shower and breakfast :)
[12:04] <raphink> same time here Seveas :)
[12:04] <St^Anger^19m> same here too
[12:04] <raphink> and same actions to be taken
[12:05] <raphink> ;)
[12:05] <triple5> same here ...;) (time
[12:05] <adas> hi
[12:05] <Seveas> I am NOT showering with you raphink :p
[12:05] <raphink> Seveas: that was clear enough for me, don't worry
[12:05] <adas> is it possible to make domain networks like in windows?
[12:05] <triple5> ehm,  I already had a shower...
[12:05] <St^Anger^19m> :( i need java help but java ppl dont answer to anything...is there anybody who used Swing here? plzzzz...
[12:05] <Seveas> adas, samba can help you there
[12:05] <raphink> sure adas, you can use samba
[12:06] <triple5> maybe use samba?
[12:06] <Fujitsu> I think it is unanymous...
[12:06] <adas> pls?
[12:07] <triple5> adas: serious, it is called samba server
[12:07] <raphink> yep :)
[12:07] <Fujitsu> Honestly.
[12:07] <Fujitsu> !samba
[12:07] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:07] <raphink> truly
[12:07] <Seveas> adas, apt-get install samba, read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/samba
[12:08] <raphink> using smbfs might also be a good way to access your shares easily
[12:08] <raphink> once samba is set
[12:08] <adas> triple5
[12:08] <adas> i mean like win2k3 server can create domains in the network
[12:08] <adas> and it gives the apps needed for the other pcs
[12:09] <triple5> oh
[12:09] <triple5> I guess you have to set it up properly
[12:10] <raphink> adas: you mean domains ?
[12:10] <adas> is it possible to make that on linux only?
[12:10] <raphink> like local dns ?
[12:10] <adas> like network domains
[12:10] <adas> yes
[12:10] <raphink> oh ok
[12:10] <triple5> you would have to create a depository on one server and then edit apt/sources.list on all the clien pcs
[12:10] <raphink> well then you need a dns server if you want to centralize that
[12:10] <triple5> maybe?
[12:11] <adas> but i want the server to provide apps to the pc
[12:11] <raphink> that's not what adas wants triple5
[12:11] <triple5> oops s/depository/repository
[12:11] <adas> is it possible to make disk images
[12:11] <raphink> adas: what do you mean?
[12:11] <adas> and everytime erase all added?
[12:11] <adas> something like in windows
[12:11] <triple5> I think I know what adas means.
[12:11] <raphink> adas: try to forget about how you do it on windows
[12:11] <raphink> and to describe your needs
[12:11] <liable> rsync!
[12:11] <adas> LOl
[12:11] <adas> ok :9
[12:11] <raphink> so we can find a linux solution
[12:11] <adas> rsync ok
[12:12] <adas> i gtg now
[12:12] <adas> thanks for the help
[12:12] <adas> in a few hours i have more time
[12:12] <adas> sorry to bother
[12:12] <triple5> you have a group of pcs like in a Computer pool
[12:12] <adas> bye
[12:12] <adas> yes
[12:12] <adas> but i gtg now ok thanks
[12:13] <triple5> well that was too short to solve anything. but I know what adas means now...
[12:13] <triple5> it interests me, too...
[12:14] <Alpha1> so. Ubuntu.
[12:15] <triple5> howto create a system like that for example useful for a Computerroom
[12:15] <Alpha1> where can I find a list of repositories? I miss kate & konqueror & konsole
[12:16] <triple5> anytime a user logs on, the system is created for this instance, when he logs of, everything is erased except in a private part that can be set, (e.g. a private capacity)
[12:17] <triple5> Alpha1 maybe you should go to #kubuntu ?
[12:17] <Alpha1> ooerr.
[12:17] <Alpha1> thanks triple5
[12:17] <triple5> !kubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:18] <Alpha1> ta
[12:21] <fony_vaio> breezy keeps freezing solid after reboots on my Sony Vaio PCG-K415B :-(
[12:21] <fony_vaio> what's the best way of diagnosing the problem? (i've seen other people with the same problem on forums, with no obvious solution provided)?
[12:25] <soldieruk400> hi i have downloaded plugins for firefox and they have gon onto my desktop how do i install them ?
[12:27] <soldieruk400> anyone have the answer ?
[12:28] <raphink> soldieruk400: plugins for firefox are not to be downloaded as such
[12:28] <raphink> they should install directly in firefox when you click on the link
[12:29] <soldieruk400> a no way .howcome?
[12:29] <raphink> no idea I don't use firefox myself anymore
[12:29] <soldieruk400> what do you recomend me using for a new web brouser ?
[12:30] <skwashd> hi all
[12:30] <soldieruk400> im used to windows brousers to see lol
[12:30] <xfree> hi skwashd
[12:30] <Alpha1> how do I get synaptic to use a proxy?
[12:30] <raphink> I use konqueror cause I'm on kubuntu. If you're on ubuntu it's not a great idea imo ;)
[12:30] <skwashd> i have 1 breezy machine which refuses to "remember" the .doc file assoc in ff ... anyone else struck this?
[12:30] <soldieruk400> ok what is a good replace ment for firefox
[12:30] <skwashd> hi xfelon
[12:31] <skwashd> hi xfree
[12:31] <skwashd> damn autocomplete ;)
[12:31] <DeadZed-> What application should I use for mounting hdd partitions (Package that would identify and automount all my partitons and let me unmount them)
[12:31] <xfree> Alpha1, from menu
[12:31] <Knight_Lord> Alpha1 export http_proxy="http://proxy_url:proxy_door" usually works
[12:31] <Alpha1> ta++
[12:31] <xfree> skwashd, haha
[12:32] <soldieruk400> lol im stuck then im on unbuntu lol
[12:32] <skwashd> i have tried removing mimeTypes.rdf and plugins.dat ... playing with mozpluggerrc to see if i can get it to work ...
[12:32] <xfree> Alpha1, from setting >pref>network
[12:32] <skwashd> i have tried telling ff must be 20 times to use /usr/bin/oowrite2
[12:32] <soldieruk400> seems like i will have to sus me firefox out lol
[12:32] <skwashd>  /usr/bin/oowriter2
[12:32] <skwashd> and it refuses
[12:33] <xfree> skwashd, try to use mozilla-boobo
[12:33] <xfree> mozilla-bonobo
[12:34] <skwashd> xfree: sudo apt-get install mozilla-boobo >?
[12:34] <skwashd> grrrr ... can't type tonight
[12:35] <xfree> skwashd, yes but ,mozilla-bonobo
[12:35] <skwashd> xfree: i was about to say not found :)
[12:35] <skwashd> maybe mozilla-booboo would be good ... fixes all of your booboos in ff|moz
[12:37] <xfree> skwashd, haha i hope that :)
[12:38] <xfree> ubuntu come with suspend 2 ? or what
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Suspending to a character of punctuation is not a supported feature, to the best of my knowledge.
[12:38] <skwashd> it could be like clippy ... "It looks like you are trying to fsck your ff install, would you like some help to ensure you totally fsck it up?"
[12:39] <ruiwen> hi.. does anyone know how to install drupal on ubuntu?
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Fx, you mean?
[12:39] <lennard_> _Gray_ are you there?
[12:40] <_Gray_> lennard_ sort of
[12:40] <_Gray_> lennard why whats up?
[12:40] <_Gray_> lennard_ did the kernel upgrade go well?
[12:41] <lennard_> yes and no - at first x didn't load anymore, had to reconfigure
[12:41] <skwashd> xfree: now i am really annoyed with ff
[12:41] <skwashd> after an hour of yelling at the PC ... i worked it out
[12:41] <ruiwen> anyone have experience with drupal?
[12:41] <Fujitsu> Fx is the preferred abbreviation.
[12:41] <lennard_> took me some time, but i found the problem, it sends everything to my tv-out
[12:41] <_Gray_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server?
[12:41] <_Gray_> lennard_: oh
[12:42] <skwashd> Fujitsu: ff == fscking firefox
[12:42] <bigfoot1> how do i enable backports? please teach me step-by-step
[12:42] <xfree> skwashd, ? why
[12:42] <bimberi> !info drupal
[12:42] <skwashd> UI bug ... actially had the association ... but kept on showing the browse button
[12:42] <ubotu> drupal: (fully-featured content management/discussion engine), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 4.5.5-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 472 kB, Installed size: 1928 kB
[12:42] <Fujitsu> If you say do...
[12:42] <Fujitsu> *so
[12:42] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: just remove all single #'s from /etc/apt/sources.list make sure you dont take away any ##'s
[12:42] <bimberi> ruiwen: it's in the universe repository
[12:42] <xfree> Fujitsu, i mean suspend to harddisk above
[12:42] <skwashd> select open with browse ... ok ... and it opens on oowriter2
[12:42] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: then sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <Fujitsu> xfree, that is hibernate...
[12:43] <ruiwen> bimberj: as in to configure it and get it working.. i've installed it from the repository, but i can't find the "sites" directory nor the "settings.php" file mentioned in the drupal docs
[12:43] <El-Presidente> Hello, currently I have PHP generating directories but I always want the FTP user to be able to put files into those directories aswell, so far PHP has access to those newly created directories but the FTP user gets permission denied, is there a way to make a directory, have directories underneath it accessible in everyway to every unix user?
[12:43] <xfree> skwashd, what this you want to open it with ff ?
[12:44] <bimberi> ruiwen: got me there, i only knew of it's existence in the repos
[12:44] <skwashd> xfree: huh?
[12:44] <xfree> Fujitsu, yes that what i mean
[12:44] <lennard_> i tried IgnoreDisplayDevices, ExactModeTimingsDVI and ConnectedMonitor but it still doesnt work
[12:44] <ruiwen> bimberj: s'ok thanx =)
[12:44] <bigfoot1> how can i enable japanese input capability in opera browser?
[12:44] <ruiwen> anyone else know drupal?
[12:44] <Fujitsu> xfree, what is the problem?
[12:44] <xfree> skwashd, drop this :)
[12:44] <Badm4n> where is EU mirror ?
[12:44] <bigfoot1> _Gray_: how do i go to sources.list+
[12:45] <skwashd> xfree: ok
[12:45] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:45] <Badm4n> where is EU mirror ?
[12:45] <Ng> ruiwen: it may well have installed a README.Debian, check /usr/share/doc/drupal/ maybe?
[12:45] <xfree> Fujitsu, notwork any more just the suspend to mem but suspend to harddisk not work
[12:45] <skwashd> i will log a bug report on it ... cos the user PC n00b for 5 yrs and ubuntu n00b for life now keeps sending me "its fscked" emails
[12:45] <bimberi> ubotu tell Badm4n about mirror
[12:46] <skwashd> cyaz
[12:46] <bigfoot1> _Gray_: this is my soures.list. How do i put backports in there? Please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5650
[12:46] <Badm4n> uboto mirror Europe
[12:47] <bimberi> Badm4n: did you get a /msg from ubotu?
[12:47] <bimberi> !morrir
[12:47] <ubotu> bimberi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:47] <Badm4n> yes
[12:47] <xfree> bigfoot1, if you do some search on wiki.ubuntu.com you will get the full answer
[12:47] <Badm4n> but i need spesific europe
[12:48] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: just run sudo apt-get update and it should be all good
[12:48] <Badm4n> !mirror
[12:48] <ubotu> methinks mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:48] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: do u have AIM?
[12:49] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: it will be easier to help you there
[12:49] <bigfoot1> _gray_ yes
[12:49] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: add Gray0512
[12:53] <wildman> hello *
[12:53] <El-Presidente> how can I find out which user apache is using?
[12:53] <loyup> my first time using ubuntu, just installed xmms as per instruction on Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide, but i cant it in the menu or from the command line, can anyone help ?
[12:54] <lennard_>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY mooij
[12:55] <lennard_> doh
[12:55] <wildman> El-Presidente: ps aux | grep http and check the user part of the output?
[12:55] <_Gray_> loyup: it should run when you type xmms in terminal or it isnt installed properly/at all
[12:56] <lennard_> pfew
[12:59] <loyup> _Gray_, thats what i thought, typing xmms at the prompt gives command not found, but when i did apt-get install xmms no errors where reported, so i m a bit stuck now
[12:59] <liam01> loyup you may have to add something to your PATH variable
[01:00] <liam01> type $PATH and see what it says
[01:01] <loyup> liam01, output is bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[01:01] <Nookie^> Hi! All ubuntu developer can't you intergrate wireless-assistant instead of kwifimanager.. Kwifi suck really hard... i have tryed for 2 hour now to get my wireless network to work without any success...
[01:01] <liam01> looks like it should work... have you tried restarting the computer loyup
[01:02] <Nookie^> wireless-assistant is 100 times better and easyer to use... or is there any other client to manage wireless connections
[01:02] <liam01> although it shouldnt matter sometimes it could help
[01:02] <loyup> i havent no, thought was just a windows "feature", :/
[01:03] <liam01> Nookie^, system -> administrator -> networking
[01:03] <Nookie^> hmm... will check it out..
[01:03] <liam01> add in your wep or whatever to most likely eth1
[01:04] <Nookie^> i will try now and see if there is any luck
[01:04] <liam01> loyup you are right, but ive seen things change.... try 'which xmms' at terminal
[01:04] <liam01> remember to eenable it and restart it if you changed settings Nookie^
[01:04] <Nookie^> ahh.... liam01: thanx m8
[01:05] <liam01> np Nookie^
[01:07] <mcphail> is there a package for libx264 with headers for breezy amd64?
[01:11] <bungle> hi
[01:14] <Seveas> !find libx264
[01:14] <Seveas> ubotu, ping
[01:14] <ubotu> pong
[01:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libx264' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/vlc/{libx264.a|libx264_pic.a}) in universe/libdevel/libvlc0-dev.
[01:14] <Seveas> mcphail, libvlc0-dev
[01:14] <mcphail> Seveas: Thank you
[01:14] <ilba7r> shouldn't vlc play ogg files or is there another player for it
[01:15] <Seveas> vlc should play ogg
[01:15] <Seveas> but you can try totem too
[01:15] <_Gray_> ilba7r: any media player should as long as the right plugin is installed
[01:15] <ilba7r> thanx seveas i know it is not related to ubuntu but i know i always can count on you guys
[01:15] <ilba7r> will check out the plugins i have _Gray thanx
[01:21] <DeadZed-> should I use kernel framebuffer in xserver settings or not .. and what is exactly kernel framebuffer?
[01:21] <mcphail> Seveas: libvlc0-dev seems to give me headers for vlc, but not for libx264 itself. I still can't compile against it. Do you have any suggestions?
[01:21] <bigfoot1> i have installed uim. I can type japanese in gedit and in Xchat (, but how can i get Japanese capability in firefox?
[01:24] <Seveas> mcphail, what's the headerfile called?
[01:24] <mcphail> Seveas: x264.h
[01:25] <bigfoot1> anybody here use uim (japanese input)?
[01:25] <Seveas> seems not to be available in ubuntu
[01:25] <mcphail> Seveas: I'll try using the header file from the cvs version
[01:25] <CaptainMorgan> alright, what desktop wm do you guys recommend ?
[01:25] <Astxist> CaptainMorgan, I like gnome
[01:26] <DeadZed-> here's an easy one: To use Framebuffer or no framebuffer
[01:26] <Seveas> mcphail, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5655
[01:26] <CaptainMorgan> been told gnome is slow.. but I don't know
[01:26] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, if gnome is too slow, try xfce or fluxbox
[01:26] <Astxist> CaptainMorgan, heh not sure about it being slow it's pretty fast on my pc
[01:27] <mcphail> Seveas: thanks again
[01:27] <CaptainMorgan> i can't judge... that's why Im asking... never tried anything other than gnome
[01:27] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, if gnome works fine for you, don't change
[01:27] <Seveas> "Ig it ain't broken, don't fix it"
[01:28] <CaptainMorgan> cool :)
[01:31] <jordi_> hi, im quite new here; i ned help to configure one usb wireless SMC
[01:33] <jordi_> hi it any one that can help me?
[01:33] <odin> Anyone ever play spellcast?
[01:33] <jordi_> no i know no one
[01:34] <g_wark> hi, anyone know a the best port for azureus please?
[01:34] <jordi_> no
[01:34] <odin> g_wark, What do you mean port for azureus?  It's java...
[01:35] <jordi_> any one know how to manage with wireless of smc
[01:35] <jordi_> ??
[01:35] <Seveas> jordi_, brand names don't help. Which chipset is in it?
[01:35] <g_wark> odin, azureus default is 6881
[01:35] <tech_your_future> Above port 40000 works well for me in azureus
[01:35] <jordi_> 802.11g
[01:35] <odin> g_wark, Oh, you mean port range
[01:35] <g_wark> (incoming tcp / udp listening *port*
[01:35] <Seveas> jordi_, chipset...
[01:36] <ben_underscore> jordi_, do you have a cd with the windows drivers? you can use them using the ndiswrapper tool
[01:36] <Ng> an lsusb might enlighten the situation ;)
[01:36] <jordi_> ok ill try with the ndiswrappertools
[01:37] <g_wark> dairy     40000 in the space where 6881 was will work well ?
[01:37] <dairy> g_wark I get better speeds if i keep my ports above 40000 in any bittorrent client
[01:37] <ben_underscore> jordi_, if you install ndisgtk it gives you a nice gui and does all of the painful config file editing for you
[01:38] <g_wark> thankyou dairy , odin   :) cheers
[01:38] <viperX> Anybody using superkaramba right now?
[01:38] <olicat> any ideas if abiword can import svg images?
[01:39] <jordi_> ok thanks a lot
[01:39] <ben_underscore> dp
[01:39] <ben_underscore> np
[01:40] <viperX> apparantly if I close the welcome screen for superkaramba the whole progrm will close. Is there a way to keep it running without having the welcome screen open?
[01:41] <viperX> Nevermind, figured it out! ;)
[01:43] <g_wark> big probs to the develepors of ubuntu, very neat distro :)))
[01:43] <g_wark> props rather ;)
[01:43] <Herrie> hi
[01:44] <CaptainMorgan> yo
[01:49] <soldieruk400> hi im using a bt b/b router at this verry moment and sor some freeky reason it is working i have not installed anything.is that bad ?
[01:51] <soldieruk400> any one providing help ?
[01:51] <void^> bt = bluetooth or british telecom?
[01:51] <soldieruk400> telicom
[01:51] <soldieruk400> telecome
[01:52] <soldieruk400> i cant install the driver because there all windows
[01:52] <void^> well, if you're connected to the router via wire it's expected to work
[01:52] <void^> cat5/ethernet wire, that is.
[01:52] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: if linux recognised it, it works
[01:52] <soldieruk400> aa but do you think i will gain outside costs ie bills
[01:53] <soldieruk400> im more concernd about out side bills :O(
[01:53] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: what do you mean?
[01:53] <odin> what provides "libttf.so.2"
[01:53] <void^> if the router does dial on demand and you're not on a flatrate, probably.
[01:53] <MickMcMack> DOOM. :(
[01:53] <soldieruk400> well if i pay a monthly subscription to bt for b/b and use it with out there drivers
[01:54] <ilba7r> hi how can i check my installed wireless driver version. I have ipw2200 card but do not know which driver version i have
[01:54] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: how would they know or care ?
[01:54] <soldieruk400> lol
[01:54] <void^> there's no point in drivers if you're using a ethernet router anyways
[01:54] <ilba7r> i am using wireless
[01:54] <soldieruk400> so it should cost me no extra then ?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: sounds like you are used to windows where you have to install drivers all the time
[01:55] <soldieruk400> thats because im a new user to unbuntu lol
[01:55] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: :)
[01:55] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: welcome to freedom :)
[01:55] <soldieruk400> :O)
[01:56] <soldieruk400> i know its well awesome
[01:56] <void^> i daresay it would be possible to make it work on windows without drivers too
[01:56] <shanonx> what would cause my Mplayer plugin to be choppy?
[01:56] <Ng> almost no routers need drivers, the companies just love the opportunity to waste your time and get their logo on your desktop ;0
[01:56] <Ng> -0+)
[01:56] <soldieruk400> well i prefair unbuntu now lol
[01:56] <thoreauputic> Ng: exactly :)
[01:57] <Ng> I found my landlord digging around the lame Dr Speedtouch software his installed, when the problem was obviously that he'd pulled the line cable out of the socket ;/
[01:57] <soldieruk400> just wish i had the know how of everything but it takes time i guess
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !tell soldieruk400 about docs
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !tell soldieruk400 about restricted
[01:58] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: that's a start - read the URLs ubotu sent you :)
[01:59] <ColonelKernel> what is the name of the ubuntu wireless adapter configuration utility? Im trying to get wireless working with the livecd
[01:59] <soldieruk400> cheers ill have a good read
[02:01] <thoreauputic> soldieruk400: the help icon on your top panel contains much info too :)
[02:01] <soldieruk400> cool
[02:02] <thoreauputic> plus there's  help.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <soldieruk400> cant wait to configer my ipod eventualy
[02:02] <shanonx> what would cause gAIM to use my internal beep, instead of actual sounds?
[02:03] <odin> Can I post a one-line error message here?  I'm trying to figure out what it means
[02:03] <mjg59> Hi - I'm trying to track down what I think is a Dell BIOS bug, but I need some more details before I email them (this is for the laptop testing team)
[02:04] <mjg59> So could anyone here with a Dell laptop with Intel graphics do a quick test? Press ctrl+alt+f1, close the lid, open the lid. Wait a second. Does the backlight switch back on? If not, let me know what model Dell you have (ctrl+alt+f7 should get the screen back)
[02:04] <rraajj> odin: I guess 1-liners are acceptable. :)
[02:04] <frej> hmm, is anyone having problems with epiphany? (dapper)
[02:05] <odin> xine: h264.c:2545: fill_default_ref_list: Assertion `best_i != -1' failed.
[02:05] <odin> Any ideas what that means?  The file works with mplayer, but not xine...but I don't really like mplayer
[02:05] <frej> firefox works fine, but epiphany complains that it can't initialize mozilla (firefox)
[02:06] <Ng> odin: you get that sometimes unfortunately - mplayer tends to be more robust with unusual/broken files. The only option really is to transcode the file
[02:07] <odin> Ng, thanks...I don't want to go to all that work.
[02:07] <soldieruk400> amurak sounds good
[02:07] <Ng> odin: entirely understandable :)
[02:07] <odin> Is there a way to change the keyboard shortcuts in mplayer to make it like xine?
[02:07] <soldieruk400> cant install it though lol
[02:07] <mjg59> Nobody here has a Dell laptop with Intel graphics?
[02:08] <Ng> odin: if there is you'd have to do it by hand. You could try gmplayer - it's not a nice interface, but at least it is an interface ;)
[02:08] <thoreauputic> !tell soldier about repos
[02:09] <soldieruk400> im using a toshiba sat 10 laptop
[02:09] <odin> Ng, I guess I'll go google and find out about shortcuts...  Hopefully it can be done by a config...I don't have the time or the concern to edit source.
[02:15] <londonboi2k3>  A little quite round here today
[02:15] <Subhuman> timezones for ya
[02:15] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: probably everyone is Christmas shopping ;)
[02:15] <Subhuman> im guessing by the name ure uk like me.
[02:15] <londonboi2k3> yeah true
[02:16] <Subhuman> done all mine yesterday :P
[02:16] <londonboi2k3> hmm, wish I ws xmas shopping, but I am stuck in work
[02:16] <Subhuman> i hate doing it any later than this, its too hectic
[02:17] <Ng> I'd much rather be in the office than shopping
[02:17] <Ng> *shudder*
[02:17] <londonboi2k3> Well theres a new argos advert out, what does it say?? Ah, Dont shop for it Argos it ;)
[02:17] <londonboi2k3> Play on the Google think me thinks
[02:17] <Subhuman> lol, well i just "fireboxed" it :P
[02:17] <londonboi2k3> :)
[02:19] <Fujoor> hey guys, when i try to install ubuntu on lowram computer it hangs up and says "killed" the whole time
[02:20] <Fujoor> it hangs up when it says "md-modules-2.6 12-9-386-di
[02:20] <Ng> how much ram does it have?
[02:20] <Seveas> and how much swap?
[02:20] <Ng> Seveas: I;d guess 0, since he's installing
[02:21] <Fujoor> less then 64, it has 32, i know its suppose to have 64, and it only needs it for the installation, afterwards it doesnt
[02:21] <Fujoor> i only want it in x mode
[02:21] <Fujoor> isnt there some way around this
[02:21] <Ng> yes, more RAM ;)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> Fujoor,  you installing it on a pc with 32mb ram?
[02:22] <Seveas> 32mb ram is not supported
[02:22] <Fujoor> its an antique of mine
[02:23] <Ng> you ought to be able to dig up a 64mb SIMM or whatever for pennies these days
[02:23] <gnomefreak> Fujoor,  the other day we asked you too look into damnsmalllinux
[02:23] <Fujoor> dsl works on it, but it has too many issues with the soundcard and wlan
[02:23] <Fujoor> i have spent two days trying to fix the wlan, just doesnt work, so i want to give ubuntu another try
[02:23] <mjg59> Fujoor: There is no way to install Ubuntu on a machine with 32MB of RAM right now
[02:24] <Ng> mjg59: to be fair, there probably is
[02:24] <Ng> he could debootstrap it
[02:24] <Ng> but I don't really see any point ;)
[02:24] <Fujoor> mjg59: i read about this guy on the forum who used a debian sarge install and then ubuntu over it
[02:24] <Fujoor> but it seems messy
[02:24] <gnomefreak> what about basic server install?
[02:24] <Fujoor> gnome: thats what im trying to do
[02:24] <gnomefreak> no gui?
[02:24] <mjg59> Ok, let me rephrase that. There's no way to use the Ubuntu installer in 32 MB of RAM right now.
[02:25] <Ng> :)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Fujoor, im not sure thats why im asking if its possible
[02:25] <Fujoor> its the installer fault right, i bet it would work in x if you managed to go around the installer somehow
[02:25] <Ng> Fujoor: look at using debootstrap if you really must, but rather than spending days trying to fix this, I would recommend you get more RAM
[02:25] <mjg59> Your alternatives are to add more RAM, install the disk in another machine and install it there or install it from another distribution
[02:26] <mjg59> Actually, it /might/ just about be possible if you hack the installer root filesystem during install, skip the partitioner and start swap as early as possible
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Ng, im not even sure his proccesser meets min req. for ubuntu its something like a 199mhz if i remember right
[02:26] <Fujoor> hmm im searching trough the forums, theres one guy who did a server-expert install and managed to do it
[02:26] <mjg59> gnomefreak: There's no actual minimum CPU requirement
[02:26] <Ng> gnomefreak: that's largely irrelevant really
[02:26] <Fujoor> oh mine is 199 mhz :)
[02:27] <gnomefreak> oh ok sorry  guys i thought there was
[02:27] <chaumurky> interesting - the kernel is for 386 and up - but there's no 199MHz 386's.....
[02:27] <Ng> gnomefreak: there are levels below which you're mad to try it, but in theory there's no actual lower limit - so long as your CPU ticks ;)
[02:27] <Fujoor> ok you know what, ill try to server-expert install, if it doesnt work ill give this project up
[02:27] <mjg59> Except we probably don't support 386s
[02:27] <chaumurky> just an observation
[02:28] <nomed> is there any boot option to switch of acpi ?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> chaumurky,  thats what i was thinking too but who knows
[02:28] <mjg59> nomed: acpi=off
[02:28] <chaumurky> another reason to release Ubuntu with the 686 optimized kernel
[02:28] <nomed> does it work even on installed system using initramfs ?
[02:28] <mjg59> nomed: Yes
[02:28] <nomed> k
[02:28] <nomed> thanks
[02:28] <thoreauputic> chaumurky: that cuts out things like P200 s (i586)
[02:29] <nomed> it ' s that i don't see it within initramfs scripts
[02:29] <mjg59> nomed: It's a kernel option
[02:29] <nomed> k
[02:29] <nomed> thanks again :)
[02:29] <mjg59> chaumurky: There are plenty of fast CPUs that don't implement the full 686 instruction set
[02:29] <bob832> good morning all
[02:29] <chaumurky> I guess so.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> gm bob832
[02:29] <anthony> how do I install java-plugin for FireFox?
[02:29] <Chousuke> chaumurky: the binaries probably *are* i686 optimised
[02:29] <anthony> should I just make a symolic link?
[02:30] <mjg59> K6s are 586s. VIAs only started supporting cmov recently.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell anthony  about javadebs
[02:30] <nomed> mjg59, is there any kermel option to switch off DMA for IDE drives?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> chaumurky: I had breezy running on a P200 mmx , 64MB ram
[02:30] <Chousuke> chaumurky: they've just been built to also support i386
[02:30] <mjg59> nomed: There is, but I couldn't tell you what off the top of my head
[02:30] <shanonx> very impressed... just so you guys know.. Ubuntu hooked up to my Sony PSP just fine with 0 problems.
[02:30] <chaumurky> nice
[02:30] <mjg59> Yeah. We build a lot of stuff with instruction order optimised for newer processors, but only using instructions present in older ones
[02:31] <nomed> ide=nodma .. can it be ?
[02:31] <chaumurky> I get what you're saying
 how'd it run - standard install?
[02:33] <Seveas> Chousuke, actually 386 is not supported
[02:33] <thoreauputic> chaumurky: server install + fluxbox - it wasn't what you'd call quick, but quite usable
[02:33] <Seveas> the 486 instruction set is used
[02:33] <thoreauputic> chaumurky: I used light apps like sylpheed and alsaplayer etc
[02:33] <Chousuke> Seveas: Ah, right.
[02:33] <Chousuke> I was still in woody time
[02:33] <chaumurky> gotta duck out. seems nirc doesn't like tilda much :-)
[02:34] <gnomefreak> for some reason mine says its loading 686 when i boot up but my proc. is 450mhz :(
[02:34] <thoreauputic> chaumurky: it could run xfce4 OK too
[02:34] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: if it's pentium II or later it's 686
[02:34] <mjg59> gnomefreak: Uhm. That's not unsurprising - all Intelx at 450MHz were 686s
[02:35] <mjg59> If you didn't have a 686, that kernel would crash
[02:35] <chaumurky> ugh...
[02:35] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[02:36] <chaumurky> hehe
[02:36] <chaumurky> i'm quite impressed with naim.lightweight and I can ise it on my ssh terminal from work
[02:36] <chaumurky> *use
[02:36] <costa> hello
[02:37] <gnomefreak> to use ssh server both pc's have to have ssh right?
[02:37] <shanonx> anyone know what would make my gAim sounds not work? It uses the system beep...
[02:37] <chaumurky> one server one client
[02:37] <Rarj> hi people. I heard debian cannot use ext3, is it the same with Ubuntu ?
[02:37] <ilba7r> is there a way to check which wirless driver version is installed for my wirless card
[02:37] <chaumurky> wrong
[02:37] <MickMcMack> Debian can't use ext3?
[02:37] <MickMcMack> O_o;;;;;;;;
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Rarj, ubuntu uses ext3
[02:38] <flodine> little help please
[02:38] <gnomefreak> MickMcMack, sarge uses ext2
[02:38] <Rarj> ok thanks :)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sid uses ext3 lat i remember
[02:38] <MickMcMack> There's a difference between uses and cannot use.
[02:38] <hmpedersen> afternoon
[02:38] <thoreauputic> MickMcMack: sure it can - you just use tune2fs -j from memory
[02:38] <costa> how can i check the details of my connection? (speed, time, etc)
[02:38] <Dr_Acemaster> is there a file similar to the hosts file in windows that I could use to block ads in webpages?
[02:39] <MickMcMack> thoreauputic, I know it can; I couldn't actually believe someone said it couldn't. -_-
[02:39] <bigfoot1> how can i install Java (java runtime environment) for firefox 1.5?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> well thats just like sarge uses 2.4 kernel but can use use 2.6 if you wanted
[02:39] <thoreauputic> MickMcMack: ext3 is just ext2 with a journal added
[02:39] <ilba7r> !java
[02:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bigfoot1 about javadebs
[02:39] <thoreauputic> MickMcMack: ah I see :)
[02:40] <qt2> ubotu, tell me about gtk+
[02:40] <qt2> ubotu, tell me about gtk
[02:40] <qt2> :/
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell qt2 about yourself
[02:40] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[02:40] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, which deb should i get?
[02:40] <ubotu> :)
[02:40] <flodine> i installed artwiz fonts with synaptic but still cant see them why is breezy diffrent then hoary?
[02:40] <ilba7r> costa check the package gtkwifi
[02:41] <bigfoot1> ilba7r, which deb shoudl i get?
[02:41] <qt2> gnomefreak, i know what ubotu is. ;)
[02:41] <costa> thanks ilba7r
[02:41] <lockhead> how do i change from utf8 to iso?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> qt2, the site tells you commands
[02:41] <ilba7r> bigfoot1 i do not understand
[02:41] <qt2> gnomefreak, i know.
[02:41] <bigfoot1> which deb from http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ should i get?
[02:41] <_jason> bigfoot1, do you just want the java jre?
[02:41] <ilba7r> costa also if you use gnome add network manager to your panel it will give you this information
[02:41] <bigfoot1> which java deb
[02:41] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1, im not looking at it but it would be 1.5 maybe 3rd from top
[02:41] <bigfoot1> _jason, what else should i want?
[02:41] <qt2> gnomefreak, my command worked fine o.O;
[02:42] <bigfoot1> _jason, should i want anything else?
[02:42] <bigfoot1> _jason, i'm a newbie/dummy
[02:42] <_jason> bigfoot1, if you just want to use flash the one that says jre and 1.5 should suffice
[02:42] <qt2> gnomefreak, ubotu just doesn't know about gtk/gtk+
[02:42] <_jason> bigfoot1, arg i mean java
[02:42] <qt2> so yeah, can anyone reccmend me a good gtk/gtk+ ide?
[02:42] <ilba7r> bigfoot1 blackdown java is good. But the best is sun java
[02:42] <gnomefreak> qt2,  ubotu doesnt know the command me
[02:43] <gnomefreak> !gtk
[02:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I haven't a clue
[02:43] <gnomefreak> !gtk2
[02:43] <qt2>  <qt2> ubotu, tell me about gtk+
[02:43] <qt2>  <*ubotu*> i dunno what is 'gtk+'.
[02:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you smoking crack?
[02:43] <qt2> yes it does.
[02:43] <qt2> o.o;
[02:43] <bigfoot1> so on http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ is the deb for me the 4th from the bottom (http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb)
[02:43] <gnomefreak> when did someone teach him me?
[02:43] <ilba7r> qt2 your best bet is serching synaptic
[02:44] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: that will work fine
[02:44] <_jason> gnomefreak, that's been there since I joined this channel in september I think
[02:44] <MickMcMack> !ask protocol
[02:44] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, MickMcMack
[02:44] <MickMcMack> :(
[02:44] <qt2> ilba7r, planned on it, was just looking for reccomendations ;)
[02:44] <ilba7r> qt2 what is ide?
[02:44] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, when you say it will work fine, do you mean that it's the best option ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> _jason, it never worked before for me :(
[02:44] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, fine=best?
[02:44] <_jason> bigfoot1, yes :)
[02:44] <qt2> gnomefreak, has been able to use it for a long while :o
[02:44] <gnomefreak> thats why they tell you to /msg him i thought
[02:44] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: when you have it, cd to the directory   and type  sudo dpkg -i sun-<hit tab>
[02:44] <qt2> ilba7r, integrated development enviroment.
[02:45] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, thank you!!!
[02:45] <Swearingen> is archives.ubuntu.com not proxy friendly?
[02:45] <_jason> gnomefreak, that's so the channel doesn;t get spammed probably
[02:45] <bigfoot1> _jason, thank you 2
[02:45] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: there is a slightly more recent one, but I'm using that version
[02:45] <gnomefreak> _jason, oh ok
[02:45] <bigfoot1> ilba7r, thank you 3
[02:45] <ilba7r> qt2 kdevelop is quite good my first choice but since i am gnome i use anjuta
[02:45] <_jason> bigfoot1, yw 2
[02:45] <MickMcMack> Isn't there a sun java package?
[02:45] <ilba7r> qt2 if you do lot of programing in python i recommend spe
[02:45] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i want the latest. or i should ask, isn't that latest version better?
[02:46] <qt2> ilba7r, i lan on doing a gtk interface for already existing c.
[02:46] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I don't have it so i don't know - but it's only one minor  revision newer
[02:46] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, ok.
[02:46] <fawzu> i have an sound and graphics porblems on my acer travelmate 4060, were can i find help?
[02:46] <bigfoot1> i won't bother with that latest version then, unless someone can give me good reason to.
[02:47] <ilba7r> qt2 my first choice will be kde. But if running gnome only like me anjuta
[02:47] <ilba7r> sorry qt2 kdevelop
[02:48] <shanonx> what is a good programming language to start learning in ?
[02:48] <Dr_Acemaster> english
[02:48] <ilba7r> so anyone know how i can find the installed version of my ipw2200 wirless driver?
[02:48] <bigfoot1> can i delete the .deb after doing "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb "?
[02:48] <MickMcMack> Java. \o/
[02:48] <fawzu> Seveas, i have an sound and graphics problems on my acer travelmate 4060, were can i find help?
[02:48] <Astxist> heh java
[02:48] <shanonx> MickMcMack : seriously?
[02:48] <MickMcMack> shanonx, it depends what you are learning for.
[02:48] <lfop> shanonx, maybe C ?
[02:49] <rosen> C64 ... Basic !
[02:49] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: assuming it installs without errors, yes :)
[02:49] <MickMcMack> Learn ARM ASM!
[02:49] <fawzu> how can i configure x11 to support widescreen?
[02:49] <ilba7r> shanonx if you program to post on the web then java my first choice even if you do not plan to post on the web. I found python easiest
[02:50] <lfop> what X-server do you prefer? xorg or xfree86, is ubuntu able to run both?
[02:50] <bigfoot1> i got: "Preparing to replace sun-j2re1.5 1.5.0+update04 (using sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb) ...
[02:50] <bigfoot1> "     Is this okay?+
[02:50] <fawzu> xfree86
[02:50] <bigfoot1> In firefox, I went to a webpage that uses java, but it's still telling me that I'm missing the plugin. help
[02:51] <thoreauputic> lfop: ubuntu uses xoeg
[02:51] <thoreauputic> *xorg
[02:51] <lfop> yep.
[02:51] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: yes
[02:51] <bigfoot1> i already closed and then re-opened firefox. why won't java work?
[02:51] <lfop> fawzu, you use xfree86 in ubuntu?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: run update-alternatives --config java
[02:51] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: and select the sun version
[02:52] <fawzu> no no i mean xorg
[02:52] <lfop> hehe k
[02:52] <ilba7r> oh thoreauputic there is a script for it now good
[02:52] <thoreauputic> yup
[02:52] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: got that ?
[02:53] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i have 2 sun options. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5657
[02:53] <fawzu> how do i configure xorg?
[02:53] <teroedni> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <fawzu> that file was empty!!
[02:55] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, and it looks like one of the java options is what is currently selected.
[02:55] <gnomefreak> fawzu,  try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <Happuf> fawzu: be sure you but X, not x.
[02:55] <teroedni> fawzu are you in console?
[02:55] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: did you install the sdk as well as the jre ?
[02:56] <bob832> (sigh), drawing a blank here, whats the keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: you only need the sdk for programming
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ctrl+F2 i think
[02:56] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, well, in this hour, i installed only http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb. I might have installed sdk in the past, but I'm not sure.
[02:57] <teroedni> fawzu when your in console it is
[02:57] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: select the jre then - you don't need the sdk unless you plan to write stuff in java
[02:57] <teroedni> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <rosen> is there some way to see the 'history' in my terminal after I close it ?
[02:57] <rosen> a log or something
[02:57] <bungle> You will be the last person to buy a Chrysler.
[02:57] <bungle> You will be winged by an anti-aircraft battery.
[02:58] <thoreauputic> rosen:  type "history" in a term, funnily enough :)
[02:58] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic,  i get an error message when i select jre. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5659
[02:58] <Amaranth> bungle: Say something that makes me think you aren't a bot.
[02:59] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, can you get that history with a date-time stamp?
[02:59] <rosen> thoreauputic, dont make me blush like that
[02:59] <triple5> hi marky, how is your ubuntu experience...?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: type sudo  before the update-alternatives command
[02:59] <marky> very good
[03:00] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: it needs superuser rights to make the symlink - sorry I should have mentioned that
[03:00] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, ok. putting sudo gets rid of error. but firefox still won't show java webpages.
[03:01] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: and you restarted firefox?
[03:01] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, yes. i closed it and reopened it.
[03:01] <bungle> sorry Amaranth lol
[03:01] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: only thing I can think of is the plugin links are misconfigured
[03:01] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, how do i fix these plugin links?
[03:02] <ilba7r> bigfoot1 can you first type java in a terminal to see if you have working java first
[03:02] <rosen> is there someone here I can paste an errorlog too that could give me some assistance.. it's something with libxml-libxml-perl
[03:02] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: first type  " about:plugins " in firefox to see what ff thinks you have
[03:02] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  type in terminal java -version make sure its using the right one
[03:03] <flodine> does anyone got the command to get artwiz font to work in aterm
[03:03] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, results of typing "java" at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5660
[03:04] <flodine> theres got to be someone who can help me
[03:04] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, java -version results at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5661
[03:05] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, about:plugins result at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5662
[03:05] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: umm
[03:05] <triple5> oops
[03:05] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: your last pastebin is a sources list... ?
[03:05] <triple5> did you all see that banlist stuff?
[03:06] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, my last pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5662 <--- plugins
[03:06] <qt2> ilba7r, GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces.
[03:06] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, please doublecheck
[03:06] <gnomefreak> i didnt see java in there at all :(
[03:06] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: evidently FF can't see your java
[03:07] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, hmmm, can we fix that
[03:07] <bigfoot1> .?
[03:07] <ilba7r> qt2 i have no experience in creating gui with gtk+ or for linux
[03:08] <qt2> ilba7r, if you're interested, you can find out more @ http://www.gtk.org/
[03:08] <Moorenkopf> which package do I need to get the mysqllibaries (f.e. /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h) aside from mysql-server. I'm really getting confused considering all those aptitude results for mysql
[03:09] <ilba7r> thanx qt2
[03:09] <wik> bigfoot1, there is a plugin package for ff.  Did you try that?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  houmer me please and close all open windows that would have to do with firefox
[03:09] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:10] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, all open windows of fx are now closed
[03:10] <gnomefreak> open a ff  now
[03:10] <bigfoot1> wik,  haven't tried any Java plugin package for fx.
[03:10] <sickdude> hi all
[03:10] <sickdude> :)
[03:10] <gnomefreak> hi sickdude
[03:11] <sickdude> hows life in here?
[03:11] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i get an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5663
[03:11] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: the command I gave should link your plugin for your user
[03:12] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, granted, "it should" but i get an error. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5663
[03:12] <triple5> Moorenkopf: maybe you just have to install mysql-server and mysql-client, I also recomment phpmyadmin for example
[03:12] <Moorenkopf> triple5: did so, exept from phpmyadmin
[03:12] <wik> bigfoot1, I was not paying attention to what you two all have tried, but I just set my laptop up this morning for a java plugin
[03:12] <triple5> what do you need the libraries for?
[03:13] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: yes I looked :) Possibly the installation is different on your machine
[03:13] <triple5> Moorenkopf?
[03:13] <wik> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[03:13] <rocky> hey can anyone help me with audacity
[03:13] <Moorenkopf> triple5: c-api
[03:13] <triple5> oh
[03:13] <_jason> rocky, what's the problem
[03:13] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1, you are using FF1.5?
[03:14] <triple5> Moorenkopf: why dont you try to search the packages for the library, I thought there is also a mysql package for c-api...
[03:14] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: It's 1:15 AM and I have to sleep somr time - hope you get th link from someone that works for you
[03:14] <rocky> wen i start it i get a message saying theres a prob with the i/o device so i cant record or play
[03:14] <Moorenkopf> well, I found a page telling me there are 3 packages containing these files :)
[03:14] <triple5> hhmm
[03:14] <thompa> my laptop still wont reboot
[03:14] <ilba7r> thoreauptic i guess the plugin is at /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7
[03:14] <thompa> not a big deal
[03:14] <qt2> hm... doesn't gnome use gtk/gtk+ for its interface?
[03:14] <thompa> but i am concerend as ubuntu is the only distro that does not reboot
[03:15] <sickdude> does anybody know a way to delete files that i scp'd to another machine?
[03:15] <sickdude> connection gets lost for a sec and scp gets killed by this
[03:15] <sickdude> scp cant resume :(
[03:15] <_jason> sickdude, ssh and then rm?
[03:15] <Moorenkopf> triple5: try 'n' error might be the solution, I'll give it a try ^^
[03:15] <triple5> and err...
[03:15] <sickdude> i just want to delete the files that scp sent over
[03:15] <gnomefreak> for some reason the javadeb doesnt link to your firefox 1.5 just noticed i have same problem i will let you know what fixes it :(
[03:16] <_jason> bigfoot1, what's the problem with java?
[03:16] <rocky> _jason, got any clue wat the prob cud b
[03:16] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, yes i am using ff 1.5
[03:16] <gnomefreak> _jason,  same thing i just typed
[03:16] <gnomefreak> i know bigfoot1  Ill look for a fix
[03:16] <triple5> I have firefox with Java plugins working...
[03:16] <bigfoot1> _jason, i'm trying to get java to work with fx 1.5
[03:16] <triple5> firefox 1.5
[03:17] <kyncani> sickdude: either ssh and rm the files as _jason told you, or scp again, this will overwrite the previously transferred files
[03:17] <rocky> heeellllllloooo anyone
[03:17] <_jason> rocky, 'killall esd' before you use audacity.  I think that limits your functionality but it's the only thing I've seen to fix it
[03:17] <hmpedersen> Id wish, i could get wine to work..
[03:17] <rocky> k thnx
[03:17] <gnomefreak> triple5,  the java.debs dont link to FF1.5
[03:17] <hmpedersen> i wana play gta now..
[03:17] <sickdude> aha well im trying this but when im sending 50 gig it isnt really an option ;)
[03:17] <triple5> you have to install it from source I think...
[03:17] <triple5> when you are in firefox and you go to a site with a java app click on the link to install,
[03:17] <rocky> _jason, ur right man
[03:18] <rocky> _jason, thnx man
[03:18] <guillem101> Anyone has experience with video recorders? I'm planning to record my kids, and I guess if a mini-dv camera is what I want. How can I pass from mini-dv to DVD using ubuntu?
[03:18] <qt2> ilba7r,  Anjuta supports gtk+ ;)
[03:19] <_jason> bigfoot1, ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:19] <ilba7r> i guess so let me check
[03:19] <_jason> bigfoot1, sudo that
[03:19] <ilba7r> modt ide do
[03:19] <ilba7r> most sorry
[03:19] <qt2> ilba7r, i wasnt asking, i was telling you :P
[03:19] <_jason> rocky, yw
[03:19] <ilba7r> oh cool
[03:20] <bigfoot1> _jason, ok did that line, but java still ain't working yet
[03:20] <_jason> bigfoot1, did you close firefox and restart it?
[03:20] <ilba7r> i guess anjuta is ok but i just do not like the fact i can not run python script directly. I can write the file but not run the script
[03:20] <zelevw> hi guys...whats a good program for converting mp3 to wav?  thanks!
[03:20] <rosen> 24hours with linux so far... and my computer still havent been thrown out the window... I guess Ubuntu did better than the other distros I've tried ;)
[03:21] <Moorenkopf> zelevw: lame / mlame
[03:21] <zelevw> moorenkpf: thanks
[03:21] <hmpedersen> Anyone know why i have no way of getting skype to work?
[03:21] <Moorenkopf> triple5: got it :)
[03:22] <triple5> sickdude: sending 50gig on scp isn't such a good idea on a bad connection...
[03:22] <lfop> how does linux handle physical memory in compare to windows? so far ive understand it does handle the RAM different. but not how.
[03:22] <rosen> hmpedersen, it takes a while to load up for some reason ... well it does here
[03:22] <triple5> Moorenkopf, cool, (gibts eigentlich auch ubuntu-de>?)
[03:22] <triple5> !de
[03:22] <ubotu> from memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[03:22] <hmpedersen> rosen, thats not what i mean.. when making a call it shuts sound on the computer untill i exit skype..
[03:22] <siriusnova> hi
[03:23] <gnomefreak> ok bigfoot
[03:23] <siriusnova> how do I allow myself to ssh into my Ubuntu laptop?
[03:23] <hav0k> what's ssh?
[03:23] <rosen> hmpedersen, I cannot run any other audio-programs while using skype ... could be linked to that problem
[03:23] <Moorenkopf> triple5: keine Ahnung, benutze Ubuntu nur auf meinem laptop und den warte ich kaum.
[03:23] <sickdude> triple5, well what other options do you suggest? ftp is slower that scp, right?
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell siriusnova about ssh
[03:23] <rosen> hmpedersen, you dont have some midiplayer running ?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> do not copy and paste what he gave you type it in as typed add sudo before it and it will work
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell hav0k about ssh
[03:23] <melonipoika> hi, i can't open synaptic, how can i see what is wrong to try to change it?
[03:24] <hmpedersen> rosen, i only have skype, xchat and gaim running..
[03:24] <kyncani> !tell lfop about memory
[03:24] <hmpedersen> rosen, mostly when attempting to make calls, i have nuffin but skype runnin
[03:24] <rosen> hmpedersen, hmm s kan jeg vist ikke hjlpe dig :(
[03:24] <MickMcMack> Free memory is wasted memory!
[03:24] <gnomefreak> _jason,  i dont know why copy and paste didnt work but i typed what you gave and it worked
[03:24] <triple5> sickdude I think there is a program that picks up interrupted transfers also with scp
[03:24] <_jason> gnomefreak, lol weird ok thanks for verifying it
[03:25] <DarkOra> anyone famalier with proftpd?
[03:25] <rosen> hmpedersen, I only got linux installed yesterday so I'm no shark ... just going by my own (limited) experiences ;)
[03:25] <sickdude> triple5, well that sounds promissing, do you know what its called?
[03:25] <triple5> sickdude: or you chop up the package sounds like a very big thing, is that an iso?
[03:25] <siriusnova> hey guys Ive enabled all the repositories in the Add Applications app, are there more for like Skype and stuff?
[03:25] <sickdude> now its a homedir
[03:25] <gnomefreak> _jason, maybe an extra space cause i did sudo<space> than pasted it
[03:25] <_jason> gnomefreak, maybe
[03:25] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  you still here?
[03:25] <sickdude> now-w
[03:26] <bigfoot1> yes
[03:26] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  did it work?
[03:26] <sickdude> triple5, lol dont worry dude
[03:26] <sickdude> :-)
[03:26] <siriusnova> anyone know how I can install Skype? is there a repository or something?
[03:26] <sickdude> skype.com?
[03:26] <ilba7r> !skype
[03:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell sirexas about skype
[03:26] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:26] <melonipoika> siriusnova, check automatix
[03:27] <_jason> arg sorry sirexas
[03:27] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, please hold on. i'm busy now
[03:27] <siriusnova> what is automatix ?
[03:27] <triple5> sickdude: I found this on google: rsync --partial host:/path/to/file .
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell siriusnova about skype
[03:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell siriusdude about skype
[03:27] <siriusnova> im newb when it comes to Ubuntu
[03:27] <hav0k> hey, i got an easy question.  how can i change it so on the windows the close min and max buttons are on the left instead of the right?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:27] <hmpedersen> Does anybody know how to get the seveas repositories to work with apt-get?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> sorry who ever i just sent that too :(
[03:27] <_jason> gnomefreak, lol everyone will know about skype soon
[03:28] <melonipoika> is tehre any log where i can read if there was any error? i'm trying to open synapctic but it doens' start
[03:28] <gnomefreak> _jason,  my tab like never works anymore
[03:28] <triple5> hmpedersen: enter the addresses into your apt/sources.list
[03:28] <_jason> hmpedersen, read the home page of seveas' repo
[03:28] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, sorry i was on the phone.
[03:28] <melonipoika> and then i can't use apt-get because it can't block something...
[03:28] <gnomefreak> its ok bigfoot1  your fix for it if you like
[03:28] <bigfoot1> _jason, yes i did close and restart firefox
[03:28] <triple5> melonipoika: can you sudo?
[03:28] <sickdude> triple5, hmm looks good im going to take a read at it and we will see
[03:28] <sickdude> thnx in advance
[03:28] <hmpedersen> triple, then? I tried for ages last night to get the key added to apt-key
[03:28] <DarkOra> when i try to access /etc/proftpd.conf as root it gives me permission denied
[03:28] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, okay i'm free now
[03:28] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  here ill give you the fix
[03:28] <melonipoika> yes
[03:29] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, ok.
[03:29] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, i'm all ears
[03:29] <lfop> thanks kyncani, alot of good info at  http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management
[03:29] <gnomefreak> paste this as is in terminal bigfoot1
[03:29] <gnomefreak> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:29] <triple5> sickdude: my google query was: interrupted scp transfer               the first result...
[03:29] <hav0k> does anyone know how to switch the close, min, and max buttons from the right to the left on the windows?
[03:29] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, ln: `/opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so': File exists
[03:29] <gnomefreak> good
[03:29] <melonipoika> triple5, yes, i can sudo, what should i do?
[03:29] <triple5> melonipoika: what happens?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  close FF and ill give you a site to test it
[03:30] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, ok
[03:30] <bigfoot1> ff is now closed, gnomefreak
[03:30] <melonipoika> triple5, what do you mean?
[03:30] <triple5> if you are doing that
[03:30] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  go here look at bottom http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/feedback.htm
[03:30] <siriusnova> hey guys should I use this? http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:31] <siriusnova> are there more repositories or is that it?
[03:31] <melonipoika> triple5, sorry, i don't understand, sudo is to get root privileges, isn't it?
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu, tell siriusnova about easysource
[03:31] <gnomefreak> theres a chat room writen in java at bottom let me know if you see it
[03:31] <triple5> melonipoika: could you ever sudo apt-get
[03:31] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, i'm on that page, but the java "webschat" isn't workning
[03:31] <triple5> melonipoika: yes
[03:31] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1,  what is it doing?
[03:31] <triple5> melonipoika: but all your posting suggests that sudo doesn't work for you..
[03:32] <melonipoika> yes, it does
[03:32] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, is just has that green puzzle piece with the words "click here to download plugin"
[03:32] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmmm
[03:32] <vallera> Hello every body can someone help me
[03:32] <gnomefreak> it worked for me
[03:32] <melonipoika> i mean that i can run apt-get after trying to open synaptic
[03:32] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, maybe the link is not what it should be?
[03:32] <hmpedersen> triple5, perhaps u could help me? i am not able to add the key into trusted list..
[03:32] <_jason> bigfoot1, do 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure j2re1.5-sun is chosen
[03:32] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, that's just a guess
[03:32] <melonipoika> but synaptic is not opening either
[03:32] <triple5> melonipoika: but it doesnt work on apt-get and on synaptic
[03:33] <melonipoika> apt-get works, but not synaptic
[03:33] <triple5> melonipoika: sudo apt-get works?
[03:33] <meg> who is expert in ubuntu to ask him something?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> melonipoika,  type sudo synaptic in terminal lets see if it open than
[03:33] <melonipoika> ok
[03:33] <triple5> WE ARE ALL HERE TO HELP
[03:34] <_jason> meg, you can just ask, if someone knows they will try to help you
[03:34] <gnomefreak> meg,  ask in rooma nd someone will help you if they can :)
[03:34] <melonipoika> triple5, gtk-critical
[03:34] <gnomefreak> _jason,  is too smart :(
[03:34] <triple5> I love ubuntu community
[03:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:34] <melonipoika> should i paste the error?
[03:34] <triple5> paste in in pastebin
[03:34] <siriusnova> okay now that I have my sources.list - what do i do with it? Im sorry for being an idiot im used to FreeBSD not Linux :/
[03:34] <gnomefreak> melonipoika,  in pastebin
[03:34] <triple5> !pastebin
[03:34] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:35] <_jason> gnomefreak, ha hang around here more often
[03:35] <melonipoika> what is pastebin?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> lol _jason
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell melonipoika  about pastebin
[03:35] <vallera> how can i access my 2nd hdd ? it is listed in /dev but not on the desktop and it is NTFS
[03:35] <meg> I know that you will find it a stupid question but as I am a new user in Linux I am trying to find a way to get the details of my connection
[03:35] <gnomefreak> melonipoika,  read the pm you got from ubotu
[03:35] <melonipoika> thanks
[03:35] <bigfoot1> _jason, I DID choose *     2        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[03:36] <_jason> bigfoot1, and after restarting firefox it still does not work?  (make sure you close all firefox windows)
[03:36] <bigfoot1> _jason, yes
[03:36] <_jason> bigfoot1, alright let me go scour the forums
[03:36] <siriusnova> oh and does Sources.list work with the "Add Applications" App?
[03:36] <melonipoika> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5664
[03:36] <bigfoot1> _jason, actually, that java option was already selected. I just chose it again!
[03:37] <meg> someone told me to check the network manager but I dont have it in my system
[03:37] <siriusnova> gah i feel so stupid
[03:37] <siriusnova> :(
[03:37] <_jason> meg, ifconfig
[03:37] <bigfoot1> _jason, it was what was being used already. does this make sense
[03:37] <flodine> ive been asking for help with fonts and no help in this room.i guess im asking the wrong guys
[03:37] <_jason> bigfoot1, yeah, just means that wasn't the problem :)
[03:37] <bigfoot1> _jason, i see
[03:37] <siriusnova> ubotu tell siriusnova about sources.list
[03:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell flodine about fonts
[03:38] <rosen> meg, System --> Administration --> network
[03:38] <triple5> well melonipoika, I have seen, but no idea...
[03:38] <melonipoika> ok...
[03:38] <hmpedersen> _jason, u can help me get the seveas key to trusted db?
[03:38] <melonipoika> how can i undo when i install new softawe?
[03:38] <siriusnova> umm anyone want to help me with my sources.list?
[03:38] <triple5> melonipoika, did you google that error message?
[03:38] <_jason> hmpedersen, the command is on the seveas's repo homepage, it's just coppy and paste
[03:39] <_jason> !anyone
[03:39] <melonipoika> no, but i guess that the problem was the last softawer i installed
[03:39] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:39] <hmpedersen> _jason, yeah.. and i spent about all night doing it over and over.. never worked..
[03:39] <siriusnova> well okay - now that I have my sources.list from the source-o-matic, what do I do with it?
[03:39] <siriusnova> im sorry if i sound like an idiot, im not used to Linux, im a FreeBSD guy :/
[03:40] <meg> jason and rosen I did whatever you told me but I still cant see the login time and the speed
[03:40] <witek> jl
[03:40] <_jason> sirexas, backup /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with your new one, then sudo apt-get update
[03:40] <melonipoika> ok, no results in google for my error
[03:40] <siriusnova> _jason - and then I can add apps using the "Add Applications" app?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> _jason, theres a new sources.list?
[03:41] <triple5> melonipoika: how to other sudo prgramms work? did you try sudo users-admin?
[03:41] <_jason> siriusnova, well you can always add apps with it right?  Use synaptic, it's better.  What are you trying to add?
[03:41] <melonipoika> yes, it works
[03:41] <_jason> gnomefreak, siriusnova created a new one with source-o-matic
[03:41] <triple5> hhmm
[03:41] <gnomefreak> sweet triple5  i didnt know that
[03:41] <siriusnova> _jason - nothing specific, just tryint to set up Ubuntu so I can add the most amount of apps possible
[03:41] <melonipoika> triple5, is there any way to undo software instalation?
[03:42] <siriusnova> so I have the most choice
[03:42] <melonipoika> i updated to firefox 1.5 using the dapper repositories
[03:42] <_jason> siriusnova, use synaptic then, add apps won't show you everything
[03:42] <melonipoika> and i think that it affected to some libraries
[03:42] <siriusnova> _jason - oh okay thx
[03:42] <christianp> hi all
[03:42] <melonipoika> and when i went back to breezy in the sources.list, i couldn't open synaptic anymore
[03:43] <lfop> what big changes will there be in dapper?
[03:43] <_jason> hmpedersen, which part of seveas' repo is giving you trouble
[03:43] <triple5> melonipoika: have you tried apt-get install synaptic?
[03:43] <melonipoika> yes, it said that it is installed in the last version
[03:43] <melonipoika> i unisntalled it and reisntall, but still not working...
[03:43] <triple5> good
[03:44] <hmpedersen> _jason, "sudo apt-key add -"
[03:44] <_jason> bigfoot1, still around?
[03:44] <bigfoot1> _jason, yes sire
[03:44] <melonipoika> is it possible to use the installation disk to rescue it?
[03:44] <melonipoika> i am tired to reinstall ubuntu each time i do something wrong :(
[03:44] <christianp> OT question: once i find a link of a site in which i could find old versions of sites, but now i can't remember the url. Can anyone help me?
[03:45] <_jason> bigfoot1, sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:45] <frogfoot> frogfoot?
[03:45] <bigfoot1> _jason, done
[03:45] <_jason> hmpedersen, that's one line all at once: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:45] <triple5> melonipoika: no need to re-install... I have the same error messages when i sudo synaptic from a terminal, but it works.
[03:46] <rosen> Can't locate object method "save_parsers_debian" via package "XML::SAX" at /usr/ bin/update-perl-sax-parsers line 90.
[03:46] <rosen>  ... I get this error message when I try to $sudo apt-get upgrade.. Any idea what it means ?
[03:46] <wildman> christianp: www.archive.org ?
[03:46] <melonipoika> ok, but i can't open it, i have tryed to reboot, but nothing...
[03:46] <hmpedersen> _jason, ahh.. thanx..
[03:46] <wildman> christianp: or google for 'web time machine'
[03:46] <rosen> it's just the first in a long line of errormessages though
[03:46] <triple5> nmelonipoika: ow it could be that there is a problem somewhere else. I see the last part of the error might be the problem
[03:46] <christianp> wildman thanks
[03:47] <wildman> christianp: welcomed
[03:47] <_jason> bigfoot1, ll /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so <- what does that return
[03:47] <_jason> bigfoot1, sorry not 'll' use ls -l
[03:48] <shanonx> can anyone tell me of a good plugin for firefox to allow .wmv to be played?
[03:48] <melonipoika> but isn't it possible to undo whe?n installing packages
[03:48] <_Gray_> shanonx: MediaPlayerConnectivity
[03:48] <bigfoot1> _jason,  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 135084 2005-06-03 20:52 /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:48] <triple5> melonipoika: if you have  a back up
[03:48] <rocky> m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??
[03:48] <frogfoot> I installed a bunch of packages yesterday but there not in my xfce menu?
[03:48] <melonipoika> no :)
[03:48] <_jason> bigfoot1, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins
[03:49] <shanonx> _gray_: any idea how to un-install the Mplayer plugin?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> _jason,  the cipherfunk repo  can i get a gpg key for it at all?
[03:49] <_jason> gnomefreak, no idea
[03:49] <bigfoot1> _jason, done, sir.
[03:49] <melonipoika> but is there a list of last added packages or something like that so i can remove then manually?
[03:49] <aethera-VS-work> hey guys
[03:49] <triple5> bigfoot1: you still don't have the java plugin working?
[03:49] <_jason> bigfoot1, try now and cross your fingers :)
[03:49] <meg> jason how can i check the login time in internet?
[03:49] <_Gray_> shanonx:  sudo atp-get remove mozilla-mplayer
[03:49] <aethera-VS-work> anyone here got experience in wifi cards?
[03:49] <_Gray_> apt-get*
[03:50] <frogfoot> Hey anybody got cable that wants to send me some mp3s to jam too?
[03:50] <shanonx> _gray_: then sudo apt-get install mozilla-MediaPlayerConnectivity?
[03:50] <triple5> melonipoika: It rather looks that the added files has changed some config file.
[03:50] <bigfoot1> _jason, i've got bad news and good news.
[03:50] <_Gray_> shanonx: get MediaPlayerConnectivity from the Firefox extensions page
[03:50] <_jason> bigfoot1, uh oh
[03:50] <melonipoika> ok...
[03:50] <rocky>  m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??
[03:50] <aethera-VS-work> athereos wifi cards not functining in ubuntu?
[03:50] <_Gray_> shanonx: its a firefox extension not a package
[03:50] <shanonx> _gray_: oh ok.. thanks, your a genius! :)
[03:51] <bigfoot1> _jason, the bad news: I didn't cross my fingers. good news. Java plugin works!!!!!!!!!!1 You are awesome. I'd write your referral to google
[03:51] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[03:51] <triple5> melonipoika: can you come to #ubuntuforums it is too busy here...
[03:51] <_jason> bigfoot1, lol ok
[03:51] <gnomefreak> lol bigfoot1
[03:51] <melonipoika> yes
[03:51] <aethera-VS-work> _Gray_ can you help a brother out?
[03:51] <rocky> _jason  m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??
[03:51] <_Gray_> aethera-VS-work: ill try
[03:51] <odin> How do I install an old version of GCC?  I need to make a kernel module and I don't want to recompile the kernel
[03:51] <aethera-VS-work> _Gray_ can I pm you
[03:51] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak, i was just taking a look at pics of googleplex. Looks like a fun place to work http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinvars/sets/1558898/
[03:51] <_Gray_> aethera-VS-work: yep
[03:52] <_jason> rocky, I don;t know, I never used yahoo service with gaim
[03:52] <rocky> _jason kk thnx
[03:52] <bigfoot1> _jason thank you so much!
[03:52] <frogfoot> How can I watch my Divx  avi's ?
[03:52] <rocky> bigfoot1  m not gettin offline message wen m usin yahoo thru gaim. How do i enable it??
[03:53] <_Gray_> aethera-VS-work: do you have AIM?
[03:53] <mjr> ubotu, tell frogfoot about restrictedformats
[03:53] <_Gray_> aethera-VS-work: i never seem to get pm to work
[03:53] <aethera-VS-work> _Gray_ I have msn
[03:53] <bigfoot1> The only thing now that will make my ubuntu life complete (or at least a whole lot better) is syncing my pda with ubuntu.
[03:53] <_jason> bigfoot1, np, that solution isn't really the best though.  Your java in firefox will break when you install a new java because it will point to a different spot.  The previous method should have worked, I don't know why it wasn't :/
[03:53] <_Gray_> aethera-VS-work: kk whats ur email?
[03:53] <aethera-VS-work> _Gray_ jeanre@weblife.co.za
[03:53] <bigfoot1> until then, i think I'll go back to paper (hipsterpda.com)
[03:53] <mjr> frogfoot, as a short summary; add the universe repository and sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:54] <gnomefreak> anyone know wth an oil error is? and is there a way to fix it?
[03:54] <jenda> frogfoot: you can try easy ubuntu - it will install the codecs for you.
[03:54] <bigfoot1> _jason, hmmmm
[03:54] <_jason> bigfoot1, there may be one other thing we can try, up for it?
[03:54] <bigfoot1> _jason sure. Teach me, teacher.
[03:54] <frogfoot> easy ubuntu?
[03:55] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok get rid of that link we just made but save the command in case this doesn't work
[03:55] <bigfoot1> _jason, you've got to kindly tell me how to delete that link. i have no idea
[03:55] <_jason> bigfoot1, first: ls /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:56] <bigfoot1> _jason, ls /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:56] <bigfoot1> _jason, sorry: /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:56] <_Gray_> aethera-VS-work: you on msn yet?
[03:56] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok before we delete let's check to make sure the other one is ok: ls /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
[03:57] <bigfoot1> _jason, done
[03:57] <_jason> bigfoot1, does that return anything?
[03:57] <selinium> Hi all, is there a make file command line similar to mkdir?
[03:57] <aethera-VS-work> _Gray_ join #captain
[03:57] <bigfoot1> _jason, no. nothing
[03:57] <psycode> how do i erase a dvdrw from the terminal?
[03:57] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok well that's why it wasn't working hrmm
[03:57] <bigfoot1> _jason, you found the problem?
[03:58] <jenda> frogfoot: Yes. The newest version is http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/easybreezy0.33-alpha.tar.gz - and don't mind the different name, it has just changed :)
[03:58] <chrisx1> anyone help me with webmin?
[03:58] <selinium> cafuego, good to see the bot back! :)
[03:58] <jenda> frogfoot: Check out easybreezy.robotgeek.org if you have PPC or AMD64
[03:59] <_jason> bigfoot1, ls -l /etc/alternatives/*java* | grep libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:00] <frogfoot> i have ubuntu,   im running xfce because gnome is to ram intensive for my 64mb.     bad ram chip.
[04:00] <bigfoot1> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5665
[04:02] <xored> how to setup a router on a debian server ? I have eth1 as internal and eth0 as internet(cable)
[04:02] <_jason> bigfoot1, sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so; sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/
[04:03] <bigfoot1> _jason, done.
[04:03] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok test now
[04:03] <bigfoot1> _jason, i ran both sudos at the same time
[04:03] <_jason> bigfoot1, yep that's ok the
[04:03] <thomas_> hi
[04:04] <bigfoot1> _jason, not working anymore.
[04:04] <_jason> bigfoot1, the ';' seperates commands just like different lines
[04:04] <_jason> bigfoot1, argh I don't believe you lol
[04:04] <bigfoot1> _jason, i get the green puzzle piece
[04:04] <thomas_> i need a lillte help with gnome-panel
[04:04] <bigfoot1> _jason, and text that says "Click here to download plugin".
[04:04] <bigfoot1> _jason, believe me. no good news this time
[04:05] <bigfoot1> _jason, i'm not crying wolf
[04:05] <thomas_> can anybody help me?
[04:05] <hmpedersen> Thanx _jason..
[04:06] <Seveas> !tell thomas_ about anyone
[04:06] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok: sudo mv /opt/firefox/plugins/mozilla-javaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[04:06] <bigfoot1> _jason, done
[04:06] <thomas_> normaly you have the lillte icons ig of amarok or gaim in the panel...
[04:06] <_jason> bigfoot1, tell me what 'ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so' says
[04:07] <thomas_> but i doenst. i dont know what i have done, but the icons arent in panel anymore...
[04:07] <bigfoot1> _jason, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-12-13 00:00 /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
[04:07] <xored> how to setup a router on a debian server ? I have eth1 as internal and eth0 as internet(cable)
[04:07] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok try firefox
[04:07] <odin> how do I get linux-headers for my kernel?  I have 2.6.12-10-386
[04:07] <odin>  and "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" says couldn't find package.
[04:08] <bigfoot1> _jason, no good
[04:08] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok one more try and then you cna just use the old method: cd /opt/firefox/plugins; sudo mv mozilla-javaplugin.so libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:08] <thomas_> no one has an idea?
[04:09] <bigfoot1> _jason, mv: cannot stat `mozilla-javaplugin.so': No such file or directory
[04:09] <bigfoot1> jeff@ubuntu:/opt/firefox/plugins$
[04:09] <_jason> bigfoot1, k try
[04:10] <bigfoot1> _jason, it's okay even with the above error?
[04:10] <_jason> bigfoot1, that's not an error, cd just put you in the /opt/firefox/opt/ directory so you dont have to keep typing it
[04:11] <_jason> bigfoot1, if you type ls -l *java* you'll see the name change
[04:11] <bigfoot1> _jason, so    "           mv: cannot stat `mozilla-javaplugin.so': No such file or directory                 "   is OK?
[04:11] <_jason> bigfoot1, no, you didn't show me that :)
[04:11] <_jason> bigfoot1, argh i am blind, yes u did
[04:11] <bigfoot1> _jason, you were blind but now you see
[04:12] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok what does ls -l *java* say
[04:12] <frogfoot> how d oi use gstreamer
[04:12] <kestas> bigfoot1, check out Seveas' java repo
[04:12] <_jason> ubuntulog, tell frogfoot about multimedia
[04:12] <bigfoot1> _jason, jeff@ubuntu:/$ ls -l *java
[04:12] <bigfoot1> ls: *java: No such file or directory
[04:12] <_jason> kestas, he has it installed, he just needs the link set up
[04:13] <kestas> hmm I didnt need to set it up
[04:13] <_jason> bigfoot1, *java*
[04:13] <kestas> I installed it just today
[04:13] <_jason> kestas, firefox 1.5
[04:13] <kestas> ah
[04:13] <bigfoot1> _jason, @ubuntu:/$ ls -l *java*
[04:13] <bigfoot1> ls: *java*: No such file or directory
[04:14] <bigfoot1> _jason, i did a bunch of "cd .."
[04:14] <_jason> bigfoot1, ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins/*java*
[04:14] <bigfoot1> _jason, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-12-13 00:00 /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
[04:15] <hmpedersen> hmm.. does it usually take long installing a game with wine?
[04:15] <_jason> bigfoot1, sudo mv /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:15] <TioMalandra> hola, como puedo instalar java1.5 en kubuntu?
[04:15] <bigfoot1> _jason, done
[04:15] <_jason> bigfoot1, now it will work, cross your fingers this time
[04:16] <bigfoot1> _jason, still doesn't wor
[04:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell TioMalandra about java
[04:16] <bigfoot1> work
[04:16] <odin> will apt-getting a new kernel instal it into grub and such as well?
[04:17] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok sudo rm /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so and use the old command i guess
[04:17] <bcl> I need a bit of help with apt/dpkg management. I've almost hosed my system :)
[04:17] <_jason> ubotu, tell TioMalandra about es
[04:17] <bigfoot1> _jason, could you tell me about the old command again.
[04:17] <xored> how to setup a router on a debian server ? I have eth1 as internal and eth0 as internet(cable)
[04:18] <bcl> I'm trying to get transcode to work, and after fighting with attempting to compile it I decided to try a newer version of libgcc1
[04:18] <_jason> bigfoot1, ha i told you to remember it!
[04:18] <wildman> question, I'm having 'pbs' (warnings actually) from Perl about locale support (breezy on x86_64):
[04:18] <bigfoot1> _jason. oops
[04:18] <wildman> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[04:18] <wildman> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[04:18] <wildman>         LANGUAGE = "es_AR:es_ES:es:en_GB:en",
[04:18] <wildman>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[04:18] <wildman>         LANG = "en"
[04:18] <_jason> bigfoot1, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins
[04:18] <wildman>     are supported and installed on your system.
[04:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell wildman about pastebin
[04:18] <wildman> sorry for the flood. any idea on how to fix this?
[04:18] <bigfoot1> _jason, that's all?
[04:18] <wildman> _jason: yes, my fault, sorry
[04:18] <bcl> I did a dpkg -i libgcc1_4.0.2-5ubuntu2_i386.deb and it said it needed a newer version of libc6, which I don't want to do so I haven't installed anything else.
[04:18] <_jason> bigfoot1, yeah, after you do the rm command i told you right before
[04:19] <chrisx1> hey anyone usin webmin on ubuntu?
[04:19] <odin> uboto, tell odin about kernel
[04:19] <bigfoot1> ok. did both.
[04:19] <bcl> But now apt seems to think it needs the new libgcc1 and synaptic wants to 'fix' things by uninstalling a whole crapload of stuff.
[04:19] <hmpedersen> Id wish, wine was faster... I am longing for a game of gta :)
[04:19] <bcl> how do I make it 'forget' about my attempt to install the newwe libgcc1?
[04:19] <bigfoot1> _jason, it works agoin
[04:19] <bigfoot1> again
[04:20] <chrisx1> hey anyone usin webmin on ubuntu? or know about it?
[04:20] <_jason> bigfoot1, ok strange, but good i guess
[04:20] <bigfoot1> _jason, hopefully i won't be needing to change java versions anytime soon
[04:20] <bigfoot1> _jason thank you so much.
[04:20] <_jason> bigfoot1, yep
[04:20] <bigfoot1> _jason. you should be promoted from _jason to jason
[04:20] <_jason> bigfoot1, the problem is that then I hear beeps everyminute because of variations of it
[04:20] <bigfoot1> _jason, i see.
[04:21] <bigfoot1> _jason, so i guess you ARE promoted.
[04:21] <bigfoot1> good night.
[04:21] <_jason> bigfoot1, night
[04:21] <wildman> looks like someone had the same pb from perl when trying to configure postgresql (according to pastebin)
[04:21] <bigfoot1> take care and merry Christmas.
[04:21] <_jason> bigfoot1, you too
[04:21] <siriusnova> Ubuntu makes my pants tight
[04:22] <bcl> wildman, I got those same errors when doing a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy. Had to rerun it 4 times to get it to finish and never solved it.
[04:22] <siriusnova> Im <3 ing Ubuntu right now
[04:22] <siriusnova> its so much better then other distros
[04:22] <siriusnova> omg Ubuntu is so awesome
[04:23] <jay> hello?
[04:23] <siriusnova> hi
[04:23] <jay> First time in here for me
[04:23] <siriusnova> okay :)
[04:23] <jay> Only went to Linux 2 days ago
[04:23] <jay> I like it !!
[04:23] <wildman> bcl: under Mandriva I haven't seen this pb at all... if I switch to it and run the same script, it doesn't bark about locale support
[04:23] <siriusnova> yeah Ubuntu is pretty nice, and Im a Unix user
[04:24] <bcl> siriusnova, welcome!
[04:24] <wildman> bcl: so, I wanted to know if there's some pkg specific with perl locale support...
[04:24] <HymnToLife> then welcome here jay :)
[04:24] <siriusnova> I havent had any headaches like with other distributions like Mandrake or SUSE
[04:24] <harfooz> hi jay
[04:24] <jay> Hello
[04:25] <jay> The install went great, but installing JAVA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:25] <siriusnova> everything is easy to set up, and the GUI tools are sane and sensible, not unlike Mandrake where it feels like the GUI tools were sketchd up while the programmers were smoking a bomb
[04:25] <siriusnova> err bong
[04:25] <jay> :)
[04:25] <siriusnova> im installing java right now
[04:25] <bcl> Any thoughts on my dpkg problem anyone? How do I list packages that are 'pending' install but have failed?
[04:25] <jay> What a nightmare
[04:26] <siriusnova> i just clicked java in the "App Installer" application
[04:26] <harfooz> jay would you like the instructions I used to get java applets to play in firefox?
[04:26] <jay> harfooz.... its working fine now. Reminds me of my old DOS days
[04:26] <jay> thenks
[04:26] <harfooz> cool
[04:27] <jay> siriusnova...... its not that easy is it?
[04:27] <siriusnova> yeah it is jay, i just did it :)
[04:27] <jay> it took me 3 hours
[04:27] <harfooz> eek! that is too long! ;)
[04:27] <siriusnova> i havent tried any java applets right yet
[04:27] <siriusnova> hmm
[04:28] <jay> harfooz... could you send me those instruction :) please....
[04:28] <siriusnova> jay - yep java works fine :D
[04:28] <harfooz> jay, sure hang on let me get a url for you
[04:29] <harfooz> jay, have you ever used a terminal before?
[04:29] <jay> nope...does it show
[04:29] <jay> oh hang on yes
[04:29] <Enfors> If I want an imap server, which package should I install?
[04:29] <jay> works like a dos screen
[04:30] <harfooz> jay, ok go to Accessories -> Terminal
[04:30] <harfooz> right
[04:30] <siriusnova> ahh blimey
[04:30] <harfooz> let me know when you have it opened.
[04:30] <siriusnova> anyone know how to get trailers.apple.com to work?
[04:30] <jay> donw
[04:30] <jay> done
[04:30] <harfooz> jay,ok type this: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4*
[04:30] <harfooz> it's going to ask you for your password.
[04:30] <harfooz> there will be some whirring about.
[04:31] <Enfors> harfooz: Wouldn't it need " with that *?
[04:31] <harfooz> Enfors, I didn't
[04:31] <Enfors> You'd think the shell would directly match j2re1.4* against any files in your pwd
[04:32] <jay> ok it couldn`t find package
[04:32] <Enfors> ... unless you quote it.
[04:32] <jay> no worries anyway.. its working...
[04:32] <Enfors> If I want an imap server, which package should I install?
[04:33] <siriusnova> if i install w32codecs will the totem plugin in firefox use them automagically?
[04:33] <jay> I am quite impressed with this package as Im running 2 PC's
[04:33] <_jason> siriuskr, use the xine backend for totem, totem-xine
[04:33] <_jason> arg
[04:33] <jay> PC1 has Win Xp with a USB modem
[04:33] <_jason> siriusnova, ^
[04:33] <siriusnova> _jason - how do i set it up that way?
[04:33] <bcl> hmm, interesting full scren interface to aptitude in an xterm, understands mouse clicks.
[04:33] <jay> PC2 has ubuntu attached to PC1 with a crossover cable
[04:34] <qt2> okay... libswt3.1-gtk-java: Conflicts: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but 3.1-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[04:34] <siriusnova> basically i just want trailers.apple.com to work
[04:34] <qt2> can someone explain that to me? o.O;
[04:34] <_jason> siriusnova, just install totem-xine in synaptic (totem-gstreamer will get removed)
[04:34] <siriusnova> oh i see
[04:35] <siriusnova> hmm there is no win32codecs in synaptic :(
[04:35] <jenda> siriusnova: I can help installing those.
[04:35] <bcl> how to fix broken libgcc1 attempt: download original .deb and install it in the same manner. fixed now.
[04:35] <jenda> siriusnova: Do you have x86?
[04:35] <Enfors> If I want an imap server, which package should I install?
[04:36] <siriusnova> nvm found it jenda
[04:36] <jenda> ok
[04:36] <harfooz> siriusnova, I dl'd the codecs using the instructions found at RestrictedFormats
[04:36] <siriusnova> well whats better totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[04:37] <jay> Is there a defrag program available?
[04:37] <_Gray_> siriusnova: use automatix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[04:37] <Enfors> Generally, Linux filesystems don't get fragmented.
[04:37] <_Gray_> less fragmented than windows
[04:37] <jay> Whys that?
[04:37] <Enfors> (atleast ext2 didn't, not sure how it works these days)
[04:37] <harfooz> siriusnova, I always use totem-xine
[04:37] <_Gray_> they have a more efficient journalling system i guess
[04:37] <siriusnova> harfooz - anything else i should install aside from w32codecs and totem-xine ?
[04:38] <jay> what about antivirus or firewalls
[04:38] <_jason> siriusnova, I like mplayer, a lot of people swear by vlc.  Give them a try and decide
[04:38] <harfooz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:38] <harfooz> siriusnova, hit that site
[04:39] <fletch33> morning all
[04:39] <siriusnova> _jason - i used VLC in Windows, its nice
[04:39] <harfooz> siriusnova, I skipped the section on gstreamer stuff and went directly to totem-xine and mplayer
[04:39] <Enfors> If I want an imap server, which package should I install?
[04:39] <harfooz> siriusnova, brb
[04:39] <jay> Is there a need for antivirus
[04:39] <fletch33> quick ? my clock diasappeared from the top right of my screen. anyone tell me how toput it back
[04:40] <[R] itchie> there is an imap server called cyrus usually in a package called cyrus-imapd
[04:40] <_jason> jay, nope
[04:40] <jay> jason what about firewalls
[04:40] <_jason> jay, you have one on already
[04:40] <fletch33> it was always on my top tighr panel and it just went away
[04:40] <Enfors> [R] itchie: Thanks
[04:40] <jay> Nice to know thanks
[04:41] <_jason> jay, you can install "firestarter" for a gui to iptables
[04:41] <dooglus> jay: ubuntu comes withh 'iptables', a firewall built into the kernel
[04:41] <jay> Why doesn't it need Av
[04:41] <Enfors> [R] itchie: Is that the one most commonly used?
[04:41] <dooglus> jay: the default policy is "accept all incoming connections" - so it's a bit like not having one at all...
[04:42] <molsen> Does someone know if the hotplug-package has been removed in dapper?
[04:42] <jay> I'm thinking of putting ubuntu on my main PC. Will it detect my USB modem?
[04:43] <molsen> jay, try the live-cd!
[04:43] <jay> molsen thanks... I will
[04:43] <HymnToLife> jay > out of the bo, the chnes are very low
[04:43] <HymnToLife> box*
[04:43] <mjr> it will detect it, being able to use it is another story... molsen's advise is good
[04:44] <HymnToLife> but with a little bit of tweaking it will work fine
[04:44] <jay> thanks for the advice chaps
[04:44] <jay> much appreciated :)
[04:46] <anna> can someone tell me how to install a program?
[04:46] <Subhuman> anna, its quite simple in ubuntu
[04:46] <siriusnova> anna - use "Add Applications" in the Applications menu
[04:47] <Subhuman> anna, goto System/Administation/Synaptic Package manager, and you can search and hightlight programs to install, then just click "Apply"
[04:47] <anna> Subhuman normally i use synaptic, but this time it wont work..
[04:47] <_jason> anna, what does 'won't work' mean?
[04:48] <anna> Subhuman i just downloaded "nerolinux" and i dont know how to install this ;)
[04:48] <Subhuman> anna, what is the file extension of nerolinux?
[04:48] <anna>  Subhuman nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb
[04:49] <anna> sorry, my english is miserable..
[04:50] <chrisx1> how do i unpack a tar.gz ?
[04:50] <oskude> chrisx1, tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[04:50] <chrisx1> ty
[04:50] <psykopat> qqun parle francais?
[04:50] <anna> Subhuman can i just go to the terminal and type install nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb or something?
[04:51] <Subhuman> anna, your english is fine, and if itz a deb run "dpkg -i nerolinux-2.0.0.0.4-x86.deb" in the termina;
[04:51] <trappist> anna: sudo dpkg -i nerolinux*.deb
[04:51] <anna> okay, i will try that, thanks ;)
[04:51] <harfooz> anna, sudo apt-get install nameofpackage if you don't already have the package downloaded.
[04:51] <mausi> who's there?
[04:52] <Seveas> mausi, knock knock
[04:52] <mausi> ok, i leave now
[04:53] <anna> Subhuman erm do i have to change the directory first?
[04:53] <chrisx1> !repos
[04:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:53] <Subhuman> anna, just go to the directory nerolinux is in
[04:53] <anna> Subhuman can you tell me how to change into the directory of the desktop please?
[04:54] <Subhuman> cd ~
[04:54] <Subhuman> cd Desktop
[04:54] <Subhuman> that should get you there
[04:55] <Subhuman> then once ure in the correct directory (check by running "ls" and seeing if the file is there) run "sudo dpkg -i nerolinux-2.0.0.0.4-x86.deb" and that should work.
[04:57] <phil_> I am trying to install gtk-1.2 can anyone help?
[04:57] <roon> hi
[04:57] <anna> Subhuman thank you, but it doesnt work :/
[04:57] <ryanpg> hi all what's the best app to use for duplicating a data cd
[04:57] <Subhuman> hmm, what does it say?
[04:58] <chrisx1> !root
[04:58] <ubotu> [root]  rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:58] <anna> Subhuman sorry, i have to think about the translation ;)
[04:58] <nomed> is there any gtk app to translate po files ?
[04:58] <anna> Subhuman it says something like there is a dependace problem..
[04:59] <Subhuman> anna, ahh i see.
[04:59] <roon> what i need to do to seen ntfs partition of
[04:59] <Subhuman> anna, this just means, the file needs other files to work which you dont have.
[04:59] <roon> to see*
[05:00] <Subhuman> anna, i dont know anything about this nerolinux, so ill go see if i can see what it needs to work.
[05:00] <roon> ...
[05:00] <anna> Subhuman and ca i get these files somewhere?
[05:00] <Dido-> Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?
[05:00] <roon> so?
[05:00] <roon> guys plz help me
[05:00] <roon> what i need to do to see ntfs partition
[05:00] <anna> Subhuman it says, it needs xlibs
[05:00] <phil_> Dido_ I was wondering how to do the same thing, can't figure it out.
[05:01] <VIPER^|^> hello there, i need some help,i have source code the sks package am building it but when i type make it giving me error 2, anybody has an idea about it
[05:01] <johnsie2k> Hiya, what program for linux is capable of converting and mpg to a vcd?
[05:01] <Subhuman> anna, try in the terminal "sudo apt-get install xlibs"
[05:01] <Dido-> phil_ nobody helped you out here?..
[05:01] <roon> ...
[05:01] <roon> heyeee
[05:01] <roon> any1 heard me?
[05:01] <phil_> dido, yeah, first time here, just trying to get this ubuntu schnazz working
[05:02] <VIPER^|^> roon i think "cfdisk"
[05:02] <roon> asd
[05:02] <roon> hmm
[05:02] <nlindblad> hi
[05:02] <roon> atm im running on ubuntu
[05:03] <roon> but all my documents @ ntfs partition
[05:03] <VIPER^|^> roon type cfdisk
[05:03] <roon> ATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[05:03] <roon>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[05:03] <anna> Subhuman thank you very much!!! its working ;) thank you!
[05:03] <VIPER^|^> u'll get ur partitions
[05:04] <VIPER^|^> hello there, i need some help,i have source code the sks package am building it but when i type make it giving me error 2, anybody has an idea about it
[05:04] <egytrack> i can't put files in www folder
[05:04] <Subhuman> anna, anytime :)
[05:04] <phil_> How can I install packages w/ Synaptic that are outside the Repositories?
[05:05] <[R] itchie> what are the errors reported by make ?
[05:05] <anna> Subhuman okay, have a nice day ;) byebyee
[05:05] <egytrack> i try copy and paste in the folder /var/www but i could not .. !
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie, cd cryptokit-1.0 && make all
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> ocamlc -g -c -ccopt "-O -I/usr/include" rijndael-alg-fst.c
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> /bin/sh: ocamlc: command not found
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : *** [rijndael-alg-fst.o]  Error 127
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'
[05:05] <VIPER^|^> make: *** [cryptokit-1.0/cryptokit.cma]  Error 2
[05:05] <oskude> egytrack, i think "/var/www" is owned by "root" or "www-data"
[05:06] <Subhuman> egytrack, you need to be root, try to do it like "sudo cp folder/to/copy /var/www/"
[05:06] <Subhuman> !tell VIPER^|^ about pastebin
[05:06] <oskude> egytrack, you can also make a "public_html" dir in your home and you can access that through "localhost/~yourusername"
[05:07] <[R] itchie> your missing the ocamlc compiler, its probably available as a package somewhere
[05:07] <Dido-> Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?
[05:07] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie, so shall i search for
[05:08] <egytrack> oskude , i make public_htm like you said , but dosn't work
[05:09] <phil_> Dido- do you know how to install a package that's not in a repository (w/ synaptic?)
[05:09] <[R] itchie> ocaml-native-compilers seems to be the package name i would look at
[05:09] <oskude> egytrack, what didnt work ?
[05:09] <Dido-> phil_ nope..
[05:09] <yrjo> install wine-doc with synaptic
[05:09] <phil_> Dido- do you know if it's possible, even?
[05:10] <Dido-> phil_ yeh it is
[05:10] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie, thanks man i'll search
[05:10] <Dido-> phil_ using the console i think..
[05:10] <phil_> yrjo   what's the console?
[05:10] <oskude> egytrack, "mkdir ~/public_html" and putting your stuff there doesnt show up in "localhost/~yourusername/" ?
[05:10] <phil_> Dido- what's the console?
[05:10] <egytrack> oskude , i make public_htm folder in home folder .. and put the files there
[05:11] <CaptainMorgan> screw this... how do I update from hoary to breezy ?>
[05:11] <Dido-> phil_ just like the msdos prompt but much more functional ;] 
[05:11] <yrjo> terminal?
[05:11] <Subhuman> egytrack, not in home, in home/yourusername
[05:11] <[R] itchie> you use dpkg to install non-repo packages phil_
[05:11] <phil_> Dido- Uh, you mean bash?
[05:11] <oskude> egytrack, the files have to have read rights for "others" and folders also "execute"
[05:11] <Subhuman> so like home/john/public_html/ is accessed with localhost/~john
[05:11] <roon> does ubuntu have ftp client?
[05:12] <Dido-> phil_ you can find it in accessories > terminal. dont know if it's bass ;] 
[05:12] <Dido-> bash*
[05:12] <[R] itchie> gftp roon
[05:12] <CaptainMorgan> roon - yes
[05:12] <phil_> [R] itchie, big help thanks
[05:12] <roon> i mean to use
[05:12] <roon> ask client
[05:12] <CaptainMorgan> roon   - yes
[05:12] <roon> not a server
[05:12] <puff> if I want to tar up a file tree and kov
[05:12] <phil_> Dido-, yeah, mine's bash.  I _know_ what that is. ...
[05:12] <roon> ;) but where it is
[05:12] <[R] itchie> gftp is a gui ftp client
[05:13] <Dido-> [R] itchie would you help me whit that
[05:13] <Dido-> Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?
[05:13] <oskude> egytrack, do you have a file or a directory that is not shown in public_html ?
[05:13] <CaptainMorgan> how do you update from hoary to breezy without losing data or having to use the disks/?
[05:13] <puff> if I want to tar up a file tree and move it to another system, and have the same file perms on the new system, would I just use tar --preserve-permissions?
[05:13] <roon> i cant find it @ aplications-internet
[05:13] <[R] itchie> wine is just a bunch of libraries you need to install some windows apps to get it working
[05:13] <[R] itchie> you dont just install it and have windows
[05:14] <Dido-> but how can i run the wine application
[05:14] <[R] itchie> put in a ms office cd and watch it start the installation for office :)
[05:14] <roon> i cant find it @ aplications-internet
[05:14] <Dido-> i dont think it is already installed
[05:14] <oskude> egytrack, for directories try "chmod +x ~/public_html/dirthatsnotshown"
[05:14] <[R] itchie> the command is just "wine" in a terminal
[05:14] <zandaa> can anyone help me?
[05:14] <[R] itchie> but as i said it wont do anything without a windows program to run
[05:14] <Dido-> bash: wine: command not found
[05:14] <[R] itchie> you dont have it installed then
[05:15] <ploutonas> hello! I use mandrake for a year. Should I install ubuntu on my laptop or stay with mandrake until I get better?
[05:15] <zandaa> someone in this channel said running the 32-bit version on a 64-bit system would work.... does it really?
[05:15] <[R] itchie> i would expect it to zandaa
[05:15] <zandaa> [R] itchie, because I've been having trouble all afternoon getting the 32-bit to work
[05:15] <[R] itchie> unless there is something fruity with some of the device drivers
[05:16] <ploutonas> zandaa, I think it will, but you'll lose the power
[05:16] <roon> damn
[05:16] <zandaa> ploutonas, ah ok
[05:16] <roon> where is this ftp client
[05:16] <trappist> after following the binary driver wiki page I get this when I sudo modprobe fglrx: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> RGH!
[05:16] <roon> where is this ftp client
[05:16] <nomike> hi
[05:16] <roon> ;/
[05:17] <zandaa> ploutonas, but most software will not run on the 64-bit version <_<
[05:17] <[R] itchie> why not just download the 64bit ersion zandaa
[05:17] <[R] itchie> version*
[05:17] <[R] itchie> sorry didnt read that before replying ;p
[05:17] <nomike> Are there known Problems with TexasInstruments ACX 802.11g WLAN cards in Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:18] <roon> ad???
[05:18] <zandaa> [R] itchie, I've got CDs of Breezy laying around, both 32-bit and 64-bit
[05:18] <nomike> (I think I've read something on the net)
[05:18] <[R] itchie> what do you mean by most software
[05:18] <[R] itchie> any specific packages
[05:18] <egytrack> oskude , could not do it . i try /home/username/public_html dosn't shown in localhost\username
[05:18] <egytrack> oskude , did i miss something ?
[05:18] <zandaa> [R] itchie, glest (a game), gtk-gnutella latest build, etc. etc. the list goes on
[05:18] <Subhuman> egytrack, did u make the folder readable by other users?
[05:19] <[R] itchie> http://localhost/~<username>  did you have the ~
[05:19] <ploutonas> zandaa, I don't know maybe you're right
[05:19] <[R] itchie> i dont have a 64bit machine here to play with zandaa so i have no hands on with it
[05:19] <egytrack> yes i miss ~
[05:20] <zandaa> [R] itchie, ok <_< only thing I got is a 64bit machine
[05:20] <egytrack> now working thanks oskude , Subhuman , [R] itchie
[05:20] <zandaa> ploutonas, all the packages I download from sourceforge (latest builds etc) say they're not compatible with the AMD64 structure
[05:20] <[R] itchie> i would of put money on the 32bit version working fine it is, afterall, supposed to be compatible
[05:21] <[R] itchie> you need to make sure you grap the amd64 or x86_64 versions of the packages not the i386 but other than that it should work :S
[05:21] <oskude> egytrack, its "localhost/~username" in browser (note the "~")
[05:21] <zandaa> [R] itchie, there are almost no amd64 or x86_64 packages <_< (except on the repos)
[05:21] <peter_> How do i get my usb speakers to work with ubuntu? Modprobe usb sound gives nothing!
[05:22] <oskude> egytrack, oh, works allready :) (was afk and read the log..)
[05:22] <zandaa> since when are there USB speakers??? haven't heard about em
[05:23] <peter_> u known speakers for the sound?
[05:23] <[R] itchie> probably an audio card with a usb interface and some ports. Ive seen a few and they usually require windows drivers
[05:23] <nomed> is there any app like kbabel in gtk ?
[05:23] <phil_> [R] itchie -- i can't use dpkg but I know my way around aptitude do you know how I can load a newer version of the deb's in aptitude?
[05:23] <spiekey> hello!
[05:23] <spiekey> has anyone an idea why cdrecord wont blank my cd-rw? http://pastebin.com/460971
[05:23] <peter_> anybody got some bright idea?
[05:24] <[R] itchie> never used aptitude sorry, dpkg -i <package name> is all i use
[05:24] <[R] itchie> what is the make/model of these usb speakers
[05:24] <gib8> hi
[05:24] <[R] itchie> they probably dont have drivers
[05:24] <phil_> [R] itchie -- uh, sounds okay ... but do I run this in same dir as the deb I download?
[05:24] <peter_> some cheap crap! Soundmax
[05:25] <peter_> And google aint helpfull
[05:25] <IzzyCC> hey all
[05:25] <[R] itchie> you need to be in the same directory as the deb in the terminal using "cd <directory name>"
[05:25] <zandaa> .
[05:25] <[R] itchie> if you downloaded to desktop open a terminal and do "cd Desktop"
[05:25] <gib8> my ubunut says to me, that something is new tu update and install. so i did but than it removed grub and installed lilo :(
[05:25] <[R] itchie> then dpkg etc
[05:25] <gib8> how can i get back my grub?
[05:25] <zandaa> [R] itchie, it is ~/Desktop
[05:26] <phil_> Yeah, I used to do that in my debian days [R] itchie
[05:26] <viller> hi
[05:26] <[R] itchie> peter_, it probably wont have drivers- your best bet is to search for a driver first and how to use the driver 2nd
[05:26] <viller> where is the trash icon located?
[05:26] <[R] itchie> bottom right
[05:26] <roon> damn
[05:26] <roon> ;/
[05:26] <peter_> okay thanx!
[05:26] <roon> no1 can help me!
[05:26] <zandaa> is it also possible to remove the GRUB boatloader from the MBR once it's installed there to put it in it's own partition?
[05:27] <[R] itchie> are you dual booting with windows ?
[05:27] <zandaa> [R] itchie, yes
[05:27] <viller> where is the trash icon (i mean the image file) located?
[05:27] <[R] itchie> windows 98/xp ?
[05:27] <zandaa> XP
[05:27] <oskude> viller, try here /usr/share/pixmaps/
[05:27] <nubuntu> I need to reset LC_ALL locale name... or what it is. Tried to edit /etc/environment, but dont know what to write. Is there a list over accepted locale names or something?
[05:27] <_jason> viller, probably in /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:28] <[R] itchie> two possible ways to restore the mbr: fdisk /mbr but i dont know if that works in XP. Other is to boot from the XP cdrom into the recovery console then run fixmbr from the command prompt (you will need to know the admin login for this)
[05:28] <zandaa> of course I know the admin login... I built the whole system myself
[05:28] <[R] itchie> viller, on my screen its on the tray at the very bottom right
[05:28] <viller> wierd but i can't find it there
[05:29] <oskude> nubuntu, try "ls /usr/share/i18n/locales/"
[05:29] <HymnToLife> [R] itchie > but then it will be impossible to boot linux
[05:29] <[R] itchie> yep
[05:29] <IzzyCC> anyone here familiar with ISPConfig?
[05:29] <HymnToLife> if you use fixmbr
[05:29] <viller> [R] itchie i mean wher's the image on the hard drive, in what folder
[05:29] <zandaa> hymntolife, I believe it's possible to install the GRUB on like a flashstick and boot from there
[05:29] <coz> hello hello
[05:29] <Subhuman> or
[05:29] <HymnToLife> zandaa > it is
[05:29] <Subhuman> that other bootloadewr
[05:29] <viller> if someone finds their trash icon in /usr/share/pixmaps then could he give me the direct link to it
[05:30] <HymnToLife> if your motherboard supports booting from USB
[05:30] <Subhuman> crap, whats itz name, Graphical Boot Loader, but in spanish....
[05:30] <nubuntu> oskude, thanks
[05:30] <[R] itchie> you would need to obviously change grub to install onto the partition rather than the disk before doing this mbr thing zandaa
[05:30] <amoll> join #ubuntu-motu
[05:30] <coz> viller what happened to your trash icon
[05:30] <phil_> [R] itchie -- what's the differ. between dpkg -i and make, make-install??
[05:30] <[R] itchie> otherwise as HymnToLife  says you wont be able to boot
[05:30] <zandaa> [R] itchie, I think it's gonna take another fresh install of Ubuntu then right?
[05:30] <[R] itchie> dpkg is for pre-made packages and make is actually compiling the code
[05:30] <[R] itchie> should do
[05:30] <HymnToLife> as a matter of fact, I think you can configue Windows MBR
[05:31] <Subhuman> [R] itchie, you can burn GAG to a cd or floppy
[05:31] <roon> pf
[05:31] <phil_> [R] itchie, is there a way to make, make install a whole dir full of sources?
[05:31] <HymnToLife> but it's a bit tricky and I don't remember if you can boot non-windows OSes with it
[05:31] <roon> how to install Gftp for ubuntu
[05:31] <roon> ??
[05:31] <Subhuman> and itz a boot loader, and you can configure it to boot whatever and write it to the hdd
[05:31] <phil_> I mean, all at ones
[05:31] <[R] itchie> not really phil
[05:31] <viller> coz: nothing happened to it, i created a trash shortcut on my desktop, but i can't find the correct icon for it
[05:31] <viller> roon it's in the repos
[05:31] <[R] itchie> the problem with overwritting the mbr with windows one is you will need to get the windows boot loader to offer the choice of booting into linux
[05:31] <viller> roon try synaptic
[05:31] <zandaa> hymntolife, thanks for the info:)
[05:31] <HymnToLife> roon > with Synaptic
[05:31] <roon> what/
[05:32] <[R] itchie> linux is kind enough to give you the chance to run windows if you want where as it doenst work the other way around :)
[05:32] <HymnToLife> of apt-get install gftp
[05:32] <JonasNorman> viller, my trash icon changes with each theme, do you want the originial from a fresh ubuntu install?
[05:32] <roon> hm where i can find it
[05:32] <phil_> [R] itchie, someone said you could use synaptic to load up some binaries that were outside of the repositories, do you think (or know) if this is possible??
[05:32] <viller> jonasnorman yes
[05:32] <Subhuman> zandaa, install GAG to your mbr
[05:32] <nubuntu> oskude, how about the LANG="..." part?
[05:32] <[R] itchie> i couldnt find a way to do that myself hence why i looked up dpkg and how to do it that way
[05:32] <Laz-E> hey
[05:32] <JonasNorman> was it blue
[05:32] <zandaa> Subhuman, what'sGAG???
[05:32] <Subhuman> zandaa, you can just burn it to a cd, and boot with it, and see how u like it
[05:32] <JonasNorman> viller, was it blue*
[05:32] <[R] itchie> its probably possible but ive only been using this variety of linux for 2 weeks now
[05:33] <Laz-E> where are the wifi channels on this server?
[05:33] <IzzyCC> hey all, i just, (or so I thought) removed php4 and installed php5, but its still showing php4, anyone mind helping me?
[05:33] <viller> jonasnorman: yes
[05:33] <HymnToLife> room > system > Admiistration > Synaptic
[05:33] <_jason> viller, strange... I can't find it there either but I have used it since I made my .trash folder us the icon... how can I see where the icon is pointing?
[05:33] <oskude> nubuntu, dunno, sry
[05:33] <Subhuman> zandaa, http://gag.sourceforge.net/ check it out
[05:33] <zandaa> problem is... this is my first linux setup
[05:33] <nubuntu> np
[05:33] <roon> so
[05:33] <roon> and where there
[05:33] <Subhuman> zandaa, you can just put it on a floppy or cd to check it out, and itll let u boot any partiton u got.
[05:33] <JonasNorman> viller, /usr/share/icons/gnome/48X48/filesystems
[05:34] <zandaa> Subhuman, it also works on a spare USB stick?
[05:34] <viller> thanks jonasnorman
[05:34] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> the option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?
[05:34] <[R] itchie> why exactly are you wanting to move the mbr anyway zandaa
[05:34] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie, man thank you but it still giving me eroor that z_stream undeclared,do u have any idea
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> hey, how can you tell with verision, hoary breezy you have? I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade...
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> did a  bunch... but do I now have breezy ?
[05:34] <nubuntu> any norwegians here who can help me setting my LANG and LANGUAGE right?
[05:34] <Subhuman> zandaa, im not sure, but if u can boot from usb cant see why not.
[05:34] <HymnToLife> zandaa > yes, if your motherboard supports booting from USB
[05:34] <zandaa> [R] itchie, in case my linux decides to fail on me... I can't run windows anymore without a re-install I think
[05:34] <[R] itchie> really dont know specifics about that package VIPER^|^  sorry :(
[05:34] <coz> To day I am a happy man , I douwngraded my xchat from .6.0 to 2.4
[05:35] <zandaa> HymnToLife, of course i made sure to get a supportive motherboard :)
[05:35] <coz> sorry for 2.6 to 2.4
[05:35] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie, thanks man really thanks
[05:35] <Subhuman> zandaa, you can.
[05:35] <coz> are Asus motherboard supported?
[05:35] <zandaa> HymnToLife, I'm even considering... installing Linux on my iPod to boot it from there :)
[05:35] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> the option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?
[05:35] <Dido-> Is it possible to run the file browser as root everytime?
[05:35] <Subhuman> zandaa, you can just use the windows xp cd.
[05:35] <trappist> Dido-: possible, but stupid
[05:35] <zandaa> Subhuman, that'll fix the MBR then?
[05:36] <gib8> doesnt grub work with LVM?
[05:36] <nickrud> coz, the backports one was buggy, I take it?
[05:36] <HymnToLife> Dido- > yes, but highly unadvsable
[05:36] <zandaa> gib8, I don't think so
[05:36] <IzzyCC> anyone here mind helping me with an install for some $?
[05:36] <Subhuman> zandaa, well it will fix the mbr, but wont allow u to boot into linux
[05:36] <HymnToLife> advisable*
[05:36] <coz> No the newer version was buggy
[05:36] <CaptainMorgan> hello?
[05:36] <Dido-> transgress HymnToLife right, then how to run it as root only when i need to
[05:36] <zandaa> Subhuman, but I won't need to if my Linux craps out on me
[05:36] <Subhuman> zandaa, for that, ull need to install GRUB or LILO or GAG
[05:36] <gib8> zandaa, okay than i know, why my systemupdate cached grub into lilo
[05:36] <joachim-n> what text editors are good for working with html or code?
[05:37] <IzzyCC> joachim-n i use editplus
[05:37] <Subhuman> zandaa, what do u mean?
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> emacs is king
[05:37] <JonasNorman> viller, yup. you should see on guistyles.com there is a trash icon that when full has a celien dion cd in it
[05:37] <HymnToLife> Dido- > add a laucher to your desktop or wherever with the command "gksudo nautilus"
[05:37] <roon> hmm
[05:37] <HymnToLife> joachim-n > Bluefish
[05:37] <zandaa> Subhuman, I don't even know what I mean myself, I'm confused a bit
[05:37] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> the option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?
[05:37] <roon> ok here goes another problem
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> no
[05:37] <roon> how i can burn iso
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> no
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> no
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> no
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> no
[05:37] <zandaa> so Subhuman, how do I set up this GAG on a USB stick?
[05:38] <HymnToLife> roon > gnomebaker
[05:38] <roon> this one is already instaled
[05:38] <IzzyCC> anyone here mind helping me with an install of php5/mysql5 for some $?
[05:38] <roon> or i need to instal it
[05:38] <Subhuman> zandaa, well the bottom line is, if you want linux and windows back, easiest way is gag on a CD-R. if u want jsut windows xp, windows xp disc, r for recovery console then "fixmbr"
[05:38] <coz> roon with gnomebaker
[05:38] <NeoNmaN> hallo alle here.... i need a help...... i whojt to install ( MythTV ) an i can't get it install right... i get a error plz help me
[05:38] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> the option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?
[05:38] <coz> roon or nerolinux
[05:38] <HymnToLife> then you can burn ISOs with it
[05:38] <Subhuman> zandaa, im not sure, but try extracting the iso onto the usb stick.
[05:38] <Subhuman> for gag.
[05:39] <Subhuman> which is in the gag zip file on the site.
[05:39] <zandaa> Subhuman, can that be done in a standard LiveCD version?
[05:39] <phil_> [R] itchie, how do I change permissions for a dir and all dirs under that dir?  sudo chmod -r 777 dirname?
[05:39] <HymnToLife> zandaa > yes
[05:39] <Subhuman> zandaa, you mean can u put any live cd onto a usb stick?
[05:40] <zandaa> Subhuman, no I ment can I unzip on a LiveCD version
[05:40] <Subhuman> oh your on a live cd now?
[05:40] <[R] itchie> sudo chmod -R 777 <dirname>
[05:40] <zandaa> yeh
[05:40] <Subhuman> ahh well yes i cant see why not.
[05:40] <HymnToLife> zandaa > yes, if you have something you can write to (like your stick)
[05:40] <Subhuman> what distro is it?
[05:40] <phil_> yeah big R !!
[05:40] <NeoNmaN> plz i ned help to MythTV
[05:40] <roon> done
[05:40] <coz> Subhuman you can also put the live cd onto a flash drive if your motherboard support booting from usb
[05:41] <zandaa> Subhuman, Ubuntu of course :D
[05:41] <Subhuman> it might havea  the grub installer on it.
[05:41] <roon> i have dl gnomebaker-0.5.0.tar.gz
[05:41] <roon> what next
[05:41] <VIPER^|^> any body knows how do u can find this librarystubs-zlib.c
[05:41] <HymnToLife> roon > you'd better install it from Synaptic
[05:41] <Subhuman> zandaa, just try grub-install for me, and see if runs.
[05:41] <[R] itchie> i would just do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker myself but if you like it the hard way :)
[05:41] <zandaa> Subhuman, from the terminal?
[05:42] <zandaa> Subhuman, grub-install is supported in the livecd from the terminal
[05:42] <Subhuman> is it?
[05:42] <Subhuman> well then u can install grub to the mbr now
[05:42] <zandaa> of course, I'm running LiveCD on my bro's comp
[05:42] <[R] itchie> have you read the readme in the source directory as to the dependancies of the package VIPER^|^ thats probably worth a look- it should tell you the names of the libraries needed so you dont have to hunt them down one by one
[05:42] <Dido-> HymnToLife thanks. so i guess it's the same (as running it as root everytime) if i set the permissions to full access to everybody?
[05:43] <roon> yes
[05:43] <zandaa> Subhuman, but thing is... i don't want grub on the MBR on my comp
[05:43] <phil_> HymnToLife -- can you install packages with Synaptic that aren't in the repositories?
[05:43] <roon> but how to add there any packege
[05:43] <zandaa> while it's already installed
[05:43] <Subhuman> zandaa,  what do u mean?
[05:43] <coz> phil_ not to my knowledge
[05:43] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie,  how is that
[05:43] <zandaa> Subhuman, on my own computer, I've got ubuntu installed, but don't want a changed MBR on my HDD
[05:43] <roon> ;/
[05:44] <roon> pfff
[05:44] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> the option on the menu bar called install programs  disappeared, does anybody know what happened?
[05:44] <[R] itchie> when your compiling stuff it usually lists in a file called README or INSTALL what the libraried required to compile it are
[05:44] <[R] itchie> s/libraried/libraries
[05:44] <phil_> coz, where should I install some packages i've got, for example the pkgconfig or wxGTK or tcl8.4.6?
[05:44] <coz> ubuntuuuuuu option menu where?
[05:44] <pedro> alo
[05:45] <roon> :)
[05:45] <roon> :(
[05:45] <coz> phil_ are these .deb packages?
[05:45] <roon> HOW TO ADD ANY PACKEGE to this bloody program
[05:45] <phil_> coz, let me check on that. hold on.
[05:45] <VIPER^|^> [R] itchie|home, thanks man
[05:45] <redmonkey> hi! what package do i have to install to get the xorgconfig tool?
[05:45] <Subhuman> zandaa, so what do you want to do?
[05:45] <coz> roon if it is a .deb package it is easy
[05:45] <coz> phl_ OK
[05:46] <roon> this is gz
[05:46] <Subhuman> zandaa, or, what is the problem and what do u want at the end?
[05:46] <phil_> coz, no they're sources.
[05:46] <zandaa> Subhuman, I want to just be able to boot Linux with GAG which is going to be installed on my flash stick
[05:46] <coz> oh I have't worked with source you have to compile those I believe
[05:46] <coz> someone HERE Pleaser help phil_ with these source packages
[05:46] <phil_> coz, where do you put the tarballs before you unstuff them before building for /usr/bin?
[05:47] <coz> put them in the home folder
[05:47] <Subhuman> zandaa, do you not have a blank cd or floppy then?
[05:47] <phil_> coz, there's no issue with where they are when you build them, they'll still end up where they're suppposed to be?
[05:47] <zandaa> <_< floppy's are easily lost
[05:47] <Subhuman> zandaa, i ask because i do not know how to install onto usb. ive only done it to a floppy.
[05:48] <coz> yes you just have to cd to their location
[05:48] <IzzyCC> anyone here mind helping me with an install of php5/mysql5 for some $?
[05:48] <zandaa> Subhuman, it lists the commands here in a install.txt file
[05:48] <zandaa> Subhuman, so by changing the location
[05:48] <redmonkey> please.. what package do i need to install to get the 'xorgconfig' tool?
[05:48] <Subhuman> u can install to usb.
[05:48] <Subhuman> well go for it, i cant help past here im afraid.
[05:48] <zandaa> exactly
[05:48] <Subhuman> i can help with gag tho, i use it on all my machines
[05:48] <zandaa> Subhuman, thanks for all the help :D
[05:49] <zandaa> does it work good?
[05:49] <Subhuman> but i just have it on cd, and save to hdd once ive configured it/
[05:49] <Subhuman> yeah it works great.
[05:49] <phil_> coz, so If I have some tar.gz's tarballs (right?)_ I can build them in any dir, but they'll put their executables in the right places , presumably /usr/bin?
[05:49] <zandaa> ah, that's great to hear... gonna work a lot nicer than the GRUB I imagine
[05:49] <coz> I it most definately should
[05:49] <zandaa> Subhuman, how much does a GAG install weigh/
[05:50] <coz> I would check with others here that use source packages
[05:50] <phil_> okay thanks for the help coz
[05:50] <coz> sorry I wasn't more knowlegeable about this
[05:50] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> coz: Applications / Install programs,
[05:50] <Subhuman> zandaa, like a meg
[05:51] <Subhuman> itz just a bootloader, so itz tiny.
[05:51] <zandaa> that's not much at all
[05:51] <coz> ubuntuuuuu which version of ubuntu are  you on??
[05:51] <zandaa> so I can still use it as MP3 player afterwards I guess:)
[05:51] <Subhuman> yeah easily.
[05:51] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> coz: the last one... breezy
[05:51] <phil_> ubuntuuuuuuuuu it's called add applications, eh?
[05:51] <Subhuman> itz designed to fit in the mbr space, so itll be small
[05:52] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> phil_: yes, sorry
[05:52] <redmonkey> which package contains the xorgconfig tool please?
[05:52] <zandaa> hm... <_< I dunno what device it is...
[05:52] <phil_> ubuntuuuuuuuu will this add applicatons thing deal with source files?
[05:52] <coz> if you look under "system" /"administration you will find add programs there let me know
[05:52] <mevvis> hi
[05:53] <roon> oh noes
[05:53] <roon> linux sux
[05:53] <zandaa> hey Subhuman, once I got my USB inserted... it should pop up under System>management>devicedatabase or something right?
[05:53] <mevvis> roon use win
[05:53] <zandaa> roon, how could you say that?
[05:53] <coz> ubuntuuuu is this a recent "clean" install of breezy?
[05:53] <mevvis> win rulz
[05:53] <phil_> linux doesn't sux
[05:53] <Subhuman> umm, well when iplug mine in, it jus shows up on the desktop
[05:53] <roon> it is
[05:54] <zandaa> Subhuman, mine does too... but I need to know where it's mounted
[05:54] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> phil_: I used to install programs using this add applications instead of synaptic
[05:54] <roon> cuz full of g*ynes in this linux .. cmds/packeges ect crap
[05:54] <Subhuman> zandaa, ahh itz /dev/sd0
[05:54] <roon> cant they
[05:54] <coz> ubuntuuuu did you look under system/administration?
[05:54] <phil_> ubuntuuuuuuuuu does it deal with source files? do you know?
[05:54] <Subhuman> and mine mounts in /media/usb i think.
[05:54] <roon> do it little bit easer
[05:55] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> coz: no... i will look for something there
[05:55] <zandaa> Subhuman, for me it's /dev/sda1 (no HDD found in the Live session)
[05:55] <coz> ubuntuuu it should be there but is this a "clean" instll of breezy?
[05:55] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> phil_: I dont know
[05:55] <phil_> ubuntuuuuuuuu: thanks boss.
[05:55] <zandaa> Subhuman, I transferred it to my USB :) without problems
[05:56] <zandaa> Subhuman, how do I set it up now?
[05:56] <coz> ubuntuuuuuuuuu out of curiosity, how recent is this install and was it a "clean" install
[05:56] <HymnToLife> zandaa > set up what ?
[05:57] <zandaa> HymnToLife, the GAG boot loader
[05:57] <HymnToLife> still inyour GRUB thing ?
[05:57] <Subhuman> well wen u boot, it asks you a few questions, then itz jus S to setop, and itz pretty much obvious
[05:57] <HymnToLife> oh
[05:57] <zandaa> Subhuman, and how I then transfer to MBR?
[05:57] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> coz: i dont know what is a "clean" install... but it's recent
[05:57] <Subhuman> push S to go to the setup screen, then like one of the optons is "install to hdd" and push then
[05:57] <Subhuman> or w.e letter corresponds to it.
[05:58] <zandaa> ah ok, I guess I gotta fix my MBR first then using the WinCD
[05:58] <Subhuman> zandaa, if u install to hdd u wont need the xp cd
[05:58] <coz> ubuntuuuuuuuuu "clean" install is either installing onto a new hard drive or a lwo formatted hard drive, either way NOTHING was on it before you installed
[05:58] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> coz: i used the cds that a asked for...
[05:58] <coz> that is low formatted
[05:58] <Subhuman> fixmbr with the winxp cd just installs the windows bootloader.
[05:58] <donza> have you played with gaim 2.0 cvs versions?
[05:59] <phil_> I want to install some up to date wares that aren't in the repositories, what's the best way to install them?? I have .deb packages and sources... plz?
[05:59] <donza> is there sound support available?
[05:59] <zandaa> Subhuman, so if I just do install to HDD it gonna replace GRUB instantly?
[05:59] <coz> ubuntuuuuuuuuu there is only one cd for breezy that i am aware of
[05:59] <coz> if it was not a clean install it could lead to problems
[06:00] <defiance`> Hm, a fellow swede.
[06:00] <defiance`> Hello. :-)
[06:00] <Subhuman> yes
[06:00] <zandaa> ah, ok :D
[06:00] <Subhuman> u can still boot linux and windows and everythjing fine
[06:00] <northie> just plugged in an sb live after having naught for sound for a bit, and it won't autowork in ubuntu. can't bear with reinstalling one more time.
[06:01] <CaptainMorgan> k, so scre that.. Im upgrading to Breezy... and they say it 'may ruin you entire system'... that's comforting
[06:01] <northie> an lspci shows the card, but settings/sound won't let me choose it
[06:01] <northie> what ougt i do?
[06:01] <ubuntuuuuuuuuu> coz: No, i already have the older ubuntu...
[06:02] <Subhuman> zandaa, good luck with ti anyway
[06:02] <coz> ubuntuuuuuuuuu OK that may be the reason you don't have add applications in the application menu
[06:02] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, who says that?
[06:02] <coz> ubuntuuuuu is breezy the only operating system on the hard drive?
[06:03] <zandaa> Subhuman, thanks a lot for showing me GAG, seems a lot better/nicer than GRUB anyway
[06:03] <Subhuman> zandaa, yeah check it out, itz pretty sweet.
[06:03] <Subhuman> read the instructions, itz pretty obvious how to use when it runs though.
[06:03] <IzzyCC> anyone here mind helping me with an install of php5/mysql5 for some $?
[06:04] <Mero> hv#
[06:04] <zandaa> Subhuman, I bet it will... and I'm good at understanding comp stuff anyway
[06:04] <Mero> hellO?
[06:04] <northie> an lspci shows my sb live, but system/settings/sound won't let me choose it. what's up?
[06:04] <coz> hello Mero
[06:04] <Subhuman> zandaa, ull get it no probs then
[06:05] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas: http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[06:05] <Dido-> I managed to run winesetup and I created /home/dido/.wine/fake_windows , what's next now? How could I run windows programs?
[06:06] <CaptainMorgan> don't matter, still doing it anyway... sick of not having the latest software...
[06:06] <coz> CaptaimMorgan haveyou tried Crossover Office?
[06:06] <HymnToLife> Dido- > run your windows soft's installation program with wine
[06:06] <CaptainMorgan> nope.. what's that ?
[06:06] <zandaa> hey Subhuman, what's your favorite Desktop?? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, fluxbox?
[06:06] <northie> an lspci shows my sb live, but system/settings/sound won't let me choose it. what's up? shouldn't this be supported by default?
[06:07] <Subhuman> zandaa, gnome, but on older machines i use flux.
[06:07] <coz> Crossover office is based on wine allows installation of a few windows apps including photoshop , ms office
[06:07] <zandaa> Subhuman, you should try out the XFCE, it's pretty nice
[06:07] <Subhuman> zandaa, i used to use KDE, but itz too flashy and i dont need it,
[06:07] <CaptainMorgan> what else???
[06:07] <CaptainMorgan> gonna have too look into it..
[06:07] <hmpedersen> Does anyone know where to find a breezy deb of Comical? (cbr/cbz reader)
[06:07] <Subhuman> zandaa, i used vector which had XFCE4, itz okay, im not too big on it tho,
[06:07] <coz> CaptainMorgan unfortunately it is not FREE
[06:07] <Dido-> HymnToLife how to do that? when i try to open with a .exe i don't have a wine choice
[06:07] <CaptainMorgan> hahha
[06:07] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[06:08] <zandaa> Subhuman, I just can't stand KDE <_< because it was on my Red Hat (boring then without internet) setup
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> forget that
[06:08] <aurax> who want to have a shot of absinthe with me ?
[06:08] <coz> it is somewhat cleanre that wine
[06:08] <aurax> ;p
[06:08] <Subhuman> zandaa, yeah i had it with SuSe, but i used gnome and then never went back.
[06:08] <coz> yeah I have tried it but honestly the only thing that workedwell was ms office apps
[06:09] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, ubuntuguide is the worst piece of crap ever
[06:09] <Seveas> apart from automati
[06:09] <Seveas> x
[06:09] <zandaa> Subhuman, I knew Ubuntu would be a great system considering the screenshots I saw, feedback from friends :)
[06:09] <aurax> ubuntuguide.org?
[06:09] <coz> automatix rules
[06:09] <Kyral> Seveas: And we are remaking Automatix
[06:09] <aurax> thats like for super-uber-mega-nubies
[06:09] <HymnToLife> Dido- > try right-clicking on it
[06:09] <BlueEagle> zandaa: Did you try icewm?
[06:09] <CaptainMorgan> I disagree Seveas... learned some good tips there..
[06:09] <Kyral> Seveas: We merged with Keyes again
[06:09] <Subhuman> zandaa, well out of all the distros ive used, ubuntu is my fav
[06:09] <zandaa> BlueEagle, what's icewm?
[06:09] <aurax> couldnt they just do a massive copy paste thingy
[06:09] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, better read the official docs
[06:09] <aurax> lol
[06:09] <northie> an lspci shows my sb live, but system/settings/sound won't let me choose it. what's up? shouldn't this be supported by default?
[06:09] <CaptainMorgan> links ?
[06:09] <coz> CaptainMorgan I also learned a few good tips there
[06:09] <HymnToLife> Seveas > what' wrong with Automatix ?
[06:09] <BlueEagle> zandaa: A windowmanager. Wasn't that what you were discussing?
[06:09] <aurax> newbies needs a special copy paste botton
[06:09] <Seveas> ubuntuguide and automatic have triggerd an awful lot of reinstalls
[06:10] <aurax> poof straight to shell
[06:10] <aurax> true that Seveas
[06:10] <BlueEagle> zandaa: I found icewm easily configurable and light weight.
[06:10] <Seveas> both are complete crap
[06:10] <Dido-> HymnToLife i've tried, i don't have wine in the list of programs
[06:10] <CaptainMorgan> I wouldn't say though it's the biggest crapload, or whateer, thre is
[06:10] <coz> automatix has not triggered any reinstalls for me
[06:10] <Seveas> coz, you were lucky
[06:10] <Kyral> Seveas: Do you object to doing Automatix *RIGHT* (as in the concept)?
[06:10] <coz> I have use it for months
[06:10] <Seveas> Kyral, the concept is broken
[06:10] <HymnToLife> Dido- > then run it from a terminal
[06:10] <zandaa> BlueEagle, ah ok, I'll give it a go when my ubuntu finishes setup (just sudo apt-get install icewm?)
[06:10] <coz> if youhave a clean install of breezy should be no problem
[06:10] <HymnToLife> wine ProgramName.exe
[06:10] <Kyral> Seveas: You mean easy install things?
[06:11] <BlueEagle> zandaa: I guess. try searching icewm and look for interesting packages. :)
[06:11] <Dido-> HymnToLife  /home/dido/.wine/fake_windows
[06:11] <Dido-> ops
[06:11] <Seveas> Kyral, no, I mean overwriting configs, doing things behind the users back...
[06:11] <Dido-> HymnToLife  bash: wine: command not found
[06:11] <BlueEagle> zandaa: aptitude serach icewm
[06:11] <BlueEagle> search*
[06:11] <HymnToLife> are you sure you have wine installed ?
[06:11] <phil_> So, uh basically, you're not allowed to build sources on Ubuntu?
[06:11] <zandaa> BlueEagle, will do, gotta go right now though, later all (I use apt-get and apt-cache)
[06:11] <Seveas> and mindnumbingly stupid things too
[06:11] <Seveas> phil_, ?
[06:11] <Kyral> Seveas: Like I said, we plan to do it RIGHT. #easyubuntu
[06:11] <qt2> my friend's ubuntu box just startedtweaking out.
[06:11] <coz> Seveas, "behind users backs" like what???
[06:11] <Dido-> HymnToLife  i ran winesetup.. ?
[06:11] <Seveas> Kyral, I know about the project, let's hope you get it right :)
[06:11] <aurax> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4517962.stm <- this what happend when you use ubuntuguide
[06:12] <Kyral> Seveas: I feel the same way you do
[06:12] <Kyral> Seveas: And if it ain't done right, I'll fork it :D
[06:12] <Seveas> LOL @ aurax
[06:12] <aurax> heh
[06:12] <Seveas> litterally LOL
[06:12] <Dido-> HymnToLife see what i've been asking before: Hi! I downloaded Wine using Synapic Pack Manager, but how do I install it? I installed winesetuptk but don't know how to run it.. some help?
[06:12] <phil_> Seveas -- it's sounding like nobody does it on ubuntu (which I'm runbning) and I looked on the web and I see a lot of flack for people trying to build sources on it ... ?
[06:12] <Seveas> phil_, I build sources for breakfast and compile my lunch....
[06:13] <Seveas> what is the problem you're having?
[06:13] <Kyral> phil_: The idea behind Apt (Hell package managers in general) is that you don't HAVE to compile
[06:13] <CaptainMorgan> i find no need for windows apps such as MS office and a program like crossover when linux provides office apps for free.... butI suppose if ya got the money, you want the toys
[06:13] <HymnToLife> Dido- > that's funny...
[06:13] <Subhuman> CaptainMorgan, i agree.
[06:13] <phil_> Seveas, _you're_ the boss.  Yeah, well that sounds great.  So are you using apt, aptitude, dpkg, dselect to install packages?
[06:13] <Seveas> phil_, it is indeed discouraged to build from source when there's a package available, but it would be stupid to forbid anything
[06:13] <Kuyaedz> Kyral: I agree.  You can (I have, and do) compile programs NOT available in the repositories but apt-get makes it more automated and easier
[06:13] <coz> CaptainMorgan, I use xp, vist , and mac and in all honesty openoffice doesn't compare to ms office which is a very elegant pice of software
[06:14] <Seveas> phil_, I'm no ones boss... I use apt when available, but have to compile a lot too
[06:14] <BlueEagle> phil_: Building from source in most distros are prone to break things when some obscure lib is upgraded. However, if you know what you're doing there's no problem building your own packages.
[06:14] <CaptainMorgan> i guess Im more rugged :)
[06:14] <Kyral> coz, no offense (okay maybe offense), but sometimes you sound like a MS Fanboy :P
[06:14] <Seveas> phil_, are you having a specific problem we can help solve?
[06:14] <coz> Kyral no not really
[06:15] <coz> I just use the best apps avaiable if possible
[06:15] <Kyral> MS Office? Elegent?
[06:15] <Subhuman> coz, windows office 2000 maybe, but office 2003 is so bad.
[06:15] <Kyral> ROFLMAO
[06:15] <coz> msoffice is the most elegant of the office suites aviaable
[06:15] <BlueEagle> phil_: install build_essential and you'll be set to compile your own code. Well apart from any dependency it might need that is.
[06:15] <qt2> err, my friend's x stopped working and dmesg is being outputted to the terminal for some reason, i've recently recompiled a kernel, any idea what could be causing it?
[06:15] <coz> that is not my doing
[06:15] <Kyral> Gimme Abiword
[06:15] <Seveas> office wars -> #ubuntu-offtopic kthxbye
[06:15] <mettallicat> coz, yes .. but OOo 2.0 is going nice :D
[06:15] <Kyral> yah agreed
[06:15] <Kyral> sorry Seveas
[06:15] <coz> I lke abbyword but have you used ms office?
[06:15] <CaptainMorgan> an application may appear to be more elegant due to the fact that there's thousands of paid workers developing.. open source, we are very luck that people offer their time to the project.. if it gets the job done, Im all for it
[06:15] <Kyral> coz: Yes
[06:16] <coz> well I guess youhave to use what you feel more confortable with
[06:16] <Seveas> office wars -> #ubuntu-offtopic kthxbye (last time)
[06:16] <coz>  On ubuntu I am somewhat stuck with either abbyword or openoffice
[06:16] <BlueEagle> qt2: Well, recompiling the kernel will require you to recompile the nvidia kernel modules. Also if you haven't got a system logger all log info is dumped to a terminal.
[06:16] <tech9iner> misfit_toy ahem...
[06:16] <phil_> Seveas -- no way to use Synaptic for really up to date packages?
[06:16] <qt2> BlueEagle, apparently, a lot of the services failed to start.
[06:16] <BlueEagle> coz: You can get crossoveroffice working on Ubuntu too afaik.
[06:16] <hmpedersen> How do i install a .bin?
[06:16] <IzzyCC> is there a difference between ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.isoubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso and selecting "server" at the first prompt for type of install and using the dapper-install-amd64.iso ?
[06:17] <Seveas> phil_, Ubuntu is *stable* which means you're not on the absolute bleeding edge
[06:17] <BlueEagle> qt2: Well, then apperantly you did something wrong. ;D
[06:17] <qt2> lol, probably
[06:17] <qt2> but jsut out of curiosity, how doi reconfigure the nvidia for the new kernel?
[06:17] <BlueEagle> qt2: Is there a feature missing in the stock kernel that requires you to customize it?
[06:17] <Seveas> phil_, if you run the ubuntu devel version you have more up-to-date packages but chances of breaking
[06:18] <qt2> BlueEagle, some frequency scaling, and i had to do a kernel hack to foce native p2 support.
[06:18] <qt2> *ps/2
[06:18] <Seveas> phil_, if you really want to be on the bleeding edge and not a little bit back where Ubuntu is, maybe you should try gentoo
[06:18] <Kuyaedz> lzzyCC: not sure what would be included in the Dapper release since its still in testing & always changing
[06:18] <phil_> Seveas -- is there an Ubuntu version for developers that has things like ... uh, gcc
[06:18] <BlueEagle> qt2: d/l and install the nvidia kernel module from nvidia.com last time I checked. I haven't reconfigured my kernel in Ubuntu as the stock kernel has got all my needs covered and I am happy with the speed of things.
[06:18] <Seveas> phil_, apt-get install gcc
[06:18] <Seveas> or better: apt-get install build-essential
[06:18] <BlueEagle> qt2: laptop?
[06:18] <qt2> BlueEagle, yep.
[06:18] <Seveas> (that's gcc,g++,make,auto*,libc6-dev)
[06:19] <CaptainMorgan> upgrading to breezy set everything ot default again?
[06:19] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, it's not supposed to
[06:19] <CaptainMorgan> k
[06:19] <BlueEagle> qt2: Well, then I can see the need for recompiling the kernel. However I've never put my hands on freqscale as I haven't got a lappy. :)
[06:20] <phil_> Seveas, can I apt-get without su priv?
[06:20] <northie> lspci detects my sb live, dmesg does not. gnome won't let me choose it under settings/sound. what's up?
[06:20] <Seveas> phil_, no
[06:20] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:20] <phil_> seveas, how about sudo
[06:20] <Seveas> sudo will work (it gives you root privs)
[06:20] <qt2> BlueEagle, lol, ssh is failing to start :P
[06:21] <_jason> I set my printer to print 3 (or any other number I have tried for that matter) copies but it only prints one, any ideas?
[06:21] <BlueEagle> qt2: Any sensible error messages?
[06:21] <phil_> Seveas, is apt-get install exactly what synaptic does?
[06:21] <triple5> phil_ ye
[06:21] <Seveas> phil_, yup
[06:21] <fr500> hello
[06:22] <triple5> but without the pictures
[06:22] <phil_> Seveas, or actually, how do I get apt-get to install a PARTICULAR version?
[06:22] <fr500> does anyone get a crash while opening evolution calendar?
[06:22] <Seveas> phil_, if the version is available: apt-get install package/version
[06:22] <Seveas> phil_, apt-cache policy $package
[06:22] <Seveas> that shows available versions
[06:22] <phil_> Seveas, do I need to dowload it or specify a location or neither?
[06:23] <Seveas> neither
[06:23] <fr500> is there a way to delete an evolution database so i can test if it's my database what causes the crash?
[06:23] <triple5> !sources.list
[06:23] <Seveas> phil_, so please save the questions (or spam me in a private msg)
[06:23] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:24] <phil_> Seveas, sorry for the spam, thanks.
[06:24] <poningru> phil_: whats wrong?
[06:24] <mevvis> I make dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper, and kernel cant load mai hdb with ext3
[06:24] <phil_> poningru, I'm just trying to iknstall a new version of something that synaptic can't locate
[06:24] <phil_> poningru, what does apt-cache do?
[06:25] <triple5> apt-cache is the same as synaptics search
[06:25] <deltron> !java
[06:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:25] <deltron> !javadebs
[06:25] <phil_> triple5 so I can do it at the command line?
[06:25] <ubotu> well, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[06:25] <triple5> when you call it apt-cache search
[06:25] <triple5> phil_ yup
[06:25] <poningru> phil_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[06:26] <poningru> that will have lots of explanation with all the commands
[06:26] <poningru> well it has many commands
[06:26] <triple5> phil_ try : info apt-cache
[06:26] <nadia007> Anyone have probs with input/output errors?  I'm trying to run the clear command and this is what I get... actually it's the only thing I get when trying to execute a command!
[06:26] <phil_> triple5 poningru -- thanks I'm going back to the books.
[06:26] <poningru> nadia007: what do you mean clear?
[06:27] <poningru> nadia007: as in your irc channel?
[06:27] <Ng> deltron: those java debs are a bit out of date, the RestrictedFormats wiki page can help you make your own package with the latest release, if you want
[06:27] <nadia007> on the command line on ubuntu, I type clear and I get input/output error.
[06:27] <qt2> BlueEagle, looks like its outputting ethernet stuff to terminal
[06:27] <triple5> poningru: you have any experience with burning dvd ? I have a disk that I need to burn one-to-one (exactly as it is without transforming or anything...)
[06:27] <poningru> triple5: yeah just use kde
[06:27] <poningru> err k3b
[06:27] <poningru> that has a dvd copier iirc
[06:27] <BlueEagle> qt2: o.O
[06:28] <poningru> nadia007: what terminal?
[06:28] <poningru> the gnome terminal?
[06:28] <Sechskantschraub> Hi, does anyone know: Is there an irc-client for ubuntu that supports fservers?
[06:28] <deltron> Ng: thanks
[06:28] <hmpedersen> How do i install a .bin? (sorry i know im repeating myself)
[06:28] <triple5> poningru. k3b is the thing, thanks, how about gnome?
[06:28] <poningru> hmm not sure
[06:28] <HymnToLife> hmpedersen > chmod
[06:28] <qt2> BlueEagle, she uninstalled friestarter.... and it stopped o.O;
[06:29] <purpleheartusmc> Where can I find the hardware support for Ubuntu?  I found a barebones system for less then $200 and want to see if it works
[06:29] <HymnToLife> sorry, chmod +x file.bin and then ./file.bin
[06:29] <nadia007> yes gnome terminal.
[06:29] <hmpedersen> Hymn, its a binary installation file..
[06:29] <poningru> !hardware
[06:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:29] <purpleheartusmc> ty
[06:29] <poningru> yep
[06:29] <poningru> nadia007: hmm that is weird
[06:29] <BlueEagle> qt2: firestarter stopped when it was uninstalled?? Interesting.
[06:29] <BlueEagle> o.O
[06:30] <HymnToLife> lmao BlueEagle
[06:30] <poningru> nadia007: what about other terminals?
[06:30] <nadia007> I was installing jinzora and updating mysql db and after a while it started to crash...
[06:30] <nadia007> crash meaning giving errors like what I was stating.
[06:31] <poningru> oh hmm
[06:31] <qt2> BlueEagle, indeed it did, and ssh works again o.O;
[06:31] <fr500> can anyone try opening evolution, the calendar tab on an up to date system to see if it crashes?
[06:31] <qt2> BlueEagle, as in, it stopped failing.
[06:31] <poningru> stop with the o.0
[06:31] <BlueEagle> qt2: firestarter being a ehh.. firewall of sorts?
[06:31] <qt2> poningru, dont be os uptight :/
[06:31] <qt2> BlueEagle, indeed.
[06:31] <BlueEagle> qt2: Might sound like you missed some entries for iptables in your kernel config then.
[06:32] <qt2> heh
[06:32] <poningru> nadia007: pastebin the error
[06:32] <nadia007> how do I do that?
[06:32] <xored> iam tryying to set up some routing. kubuntu server is running, 2 network int. ; eth0 -> inet (cable) & eth1 ( internal lan) . But iam somehow failing at the configuration. Any tips ?
[06:33] <Ng> fr500: yup, I can open the calendar fine
[06:33] <fr500> Ng, hmmm it's screwed
[06:33] <BlueDevil> anyone familiar with GFS? (Global File System)
[06:33] <Xenguy> Hi folks - I need a bit of help.  I have 2 Ubu boxen on the same subnet, both with identical /etc/apt/sources.list files.  When I run 'apt-get update' on 1 box, everything updates fine; if I run it on the other box, it fails with a 'MD5Sum mismatch' error.  How can I resolve these errors on the 1 box?
[06:33] <poningru> !pastebin
[06:33] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:33] <vegos> how do you access partitions if grub is malfunctioning
[06:33] <xored> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.178.2/24 -j MASQUERADE -> i tried this, but the clients have no access to the internet
[06:34] <Storkmee> hi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server edition of ubuntu)
[06:34] <hmpedersen> HymnToLife thanx.. didnt understand u at first :)
[06:34] <qt2> BlueEagle, happen to know how i fix the nvidia-glx driver, i removed and reinstalled it via synaptic.
[06:34] <nadia007> !pastebin
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:34] <HymnToLife> you're welcome :)
[06:34] <BlueDevil> Xenguy: paste the exact error(s) to !pastebin
[06:35] <BlueDevil> ubotu: tell Xenguy about pastebin
[06:35] <vegos> how do you access partitions if grub is malfunctioning
[06:35] <BlueEagle> qt2: Don't remember, sorry.
[06:35] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: will do, sec
[06:35] <chris86wm> hey guys i am trying to uninstall grub, i typed in fixmbr but when i start windows it comes up with an error saying "<Windows root>/system32/hal.dll" is missing or corrupt. i rebooted into the recovery mode with my windows xp cd. how do i reinstall the file from the command line?
[06:35] <fr500> chris86wm, this is ubuntu community support
[06:36] <BlueEagle> chris86wm: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm
[06:36] <chris86wm> yeah i know, i had ubuntu with grub on my laptop. that is what messed it up
[06:36] <Storkmee> hi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server edition of ubuntu)
[06:36] <BlueEagle> chris86wm: first entry when googling for hal.dll.
[06:36] <nadia007> not much to the error though...  I try to do anything... and I mean anything...  simply trying to clear the screen and I get bash:  /usr/bin/clear: Imput/output error.
[06:37] <phil_> poningru -- thanks for the tutorial ... don't know how I never found it.  Problem is, now I do sudo apt-get install packagnem but it can't locate it , any ideas?
[06:37] <northie> having some sound problems with an sb live. is there a way to reinstall all sound drivers, and have ubuntu (and gnome) redetect the card?
[06:37] <purpleheartusmc> Is this supported? http://www.infotechnow.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1054
[06:37] <poningru> phil_: try apt-get upgrade and try the install again
[06:37] <xored> nobody can help ? :/
[06:37] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: here is the output for the apt-get update md5sum errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5671
[06:38] <purpleheartusmc> I know I need an HDD, but I can get those cheap
[06:38] <poningru> nadia007: hmm go make sure that /usr/bin/clear is actually there and
[06:38] <phil_> poningru, I already upgraded.  I get message: release 'xxx' for 'appname' was ont found
[06:38] <BlueEagle> northie: "some problems"? What kind of problems? No sound at all?
[06:38] <phil_> i tried in formate apt-get install app/version and install app-version neiter came up.
[06:38] <shivy_> Good evening
[06:39] <HymnToLife> greetings shivy_
[06:39] <poningru> nadia007: make sure that the permission on it is correct
[06:40] <phil_> poningru what's the diff between apt-get upgrade and update??  The documentation says to use update.
[06:40] <poningru> phil_: I meant update
[06:40] <fr500> phil_, update updates the repository data
[06:40] <poningru> yeah sorry
[06:40] <fr500> upgrade downloads and installs packages
[06:41] <fr500> enewer
[06:41] <HymnToLife> phil_ > update updates and upgrade upgrades :p
[06:41] <phil_> poningru, I just typed apt-get upgrade and it's downloading abunch of stuff
[06:41] <fr500> newer packages
[06:41] <Storkmee> hi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server edition of ubuntu)
[06:41] <phil_> HymnToLife, uh ,the diff being?
[06:41] <HymnToLife> fr500 just told you
[06:41] <phil_> Storkmee, does server edition run fast?
[06:42] <Kuyaedz> Storkmee: try sudo apt-get install -f to 'fix' any problem you might have & try again
[06:42] <poningru> phil_: upgrade just downloads and installs newer packages, for example if you are running firefox 1.0.1 it will upgrade to firefox 1.0.7
[06:42] <poningru> update just refreshes your package list
[06:42] <Xenguy> folks, I am unable to 'apt-get update' due to 'md5sum' errors for the security site (output is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5671).  Can anyone help me get unstuck from these 'md5sum' errors?
[06:42] <phil_> poningru: does upgrade actually change the versions or just download them into a list?
[06:43] <Kuyaedz> Storkmee: it looks like it just has problems with dependent other programs, which, should be fixed using apt-get install -f.  Give it a try, let me know.
[06:43] <shivy_> hey my LS -L gives out some weird unusual output here check this line ->  drw-rw-rwT  9 shivy root 4096 2005-12-11 11:39 data
[06:43] <poningru> phil_: it actually changes the version
[06:43] <shivy_> it says rwT ?
[06:43] <Ovidiu> hi
[06:43] <Kuyaedz> phil_: upgrade downloads & installs to the latest version available
[06:43] <shivy_> What does T ?
[06:43] <phil_> poningru -- but what does it do if you have apps that are installed outside of the ubuntu base?
[06:43] <Kuyaedz> phil_: latest stable version
[06:43] <shivy_> I only though you had the rwx output there
[06:44] <poningru> phil_: nothing, for example I have firefox 1.5 installed if I do apt-get upgrade it will do nothing to firefox 1.5
[06:44] <phil_> Kuyaedz -- does it install latest version of apps if you've added them from sources yourself, w/o synapteic
[06:44] <BlueDevil> Xenguy: do "wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz -O - 2>/dev/null | md5sum -b" and tell me the output
[06:44] <phil_> poningru does upgrade only upgrade the ubuntu base?
[06:44] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: OK, will do
[06:44] <Storkme> hi, i'm having some problems using apt-get. when using "sudo apt-get install gnump3d" i get this result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670 . I'm having the same with other packages i try to install too. (ps i'm running server install of ubuntu)
[06:45] <poningru> phil_: it upgrades any packages you have installed through apt
[06:45] <Kuyaedz> phil_: I don't believe it will know about those programs.  I believe apt-get works alongside dpkg (which keeps a list of installed packages).  If you've manually installed/compiled the package it probably wont be on that list.
[06:45] <phil_> I guess I'll run a test and see.
[06:45] <Kuyaedz> Storkme: again, try sudo apt-get install -f
[06:45] <Ovidiu> what yahoo messenger works on ubuntu?
[06:45] <poningru> Ovidiu: gaim
[06:45] <poningru> Ovidiu: and kopete
[06:45] <Ovidiu> tnq
[06:45] <Kuyaedz> Ovidiu: use gaim
[06:45] <Storkme> Kuyaedz, i guess i didn't see you say that before. sorry
[06:46] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: the is the output: d852e0b664aede8dbd20443ae9bbf700 *-
[06:46] <Kuyaedz> Storkme: not a problem. Hard to keep track of all the chats in a room this busy
[06:46] <Storkme> Kuyaedz, major errors, i'll paste
[06:47] <phil_> poningru: how do I get apt-get to find a package that's not in the ubuntu base of packages, say a scientific app.
[06:47] <Storkme> Kuyaedz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5672
[06:47] <BlueDevil> Xenguy: the md5 sum is correct, I got the same
[06:47] <diesel> Storkme: also paster your sources.list file
[06:47] <poningru> phil_: you cant
[06:47] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: perhaps there is some way to 'reset' my local record of these md5sums?  I'm dead in the water here
[06:47] <poningru> phil_: have you looked into synaptic?
[06:47] <Storkme> diesel, where can i find that?
[06:47] <poningru> phil_: its a gui frontend to apt-get
[06:47] <diesel> Storkme: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:47] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: perhaps I should try synaptic?
[06:47] <phil_> poningru--synaptic won't allow me to find the newest version of what I want to install
[06:48] <Ovidiu> i lost my root password, what can i do?
[06:48] <phil_> what a catch-22
[06:48] <Kuyaedz> Storkme: yeah, it does look like you're using repositories in your sources.list that aren't valid.  I'll post mine, it should be complete enough for what you need.
[06:48] <poningru> phil_: that probably means its not in the repositories
[06:48] <BlueDevil> Xenguy: yes, try it
[06:48] <phil_> yeah, it's not in a repository ... so how to install?
[06:48] <poningru> synaptic will let you install anything you can install through apt-get
[06:48] <poningru> phil_: if its not in the repositories you have to either get the source and compile it yourself
[06:48] <poningru> or get the binary and just run it
[06:49] <Storkme> diesel and Kuyaedz, here's my source list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5673
[06:49] <fr500> Ng, changing theme solves it
[06:49] <poningru> phil_: what software are you looking for?
[06:49] <fr500> Ng, are you using clearlooks?
[06:49] <phil_> poningru -- I can get eitehr source or binaries, how to install?
[06:49] <HappyFool> shivy_: i can't find +T in the info manual
[06:49] <Ng> fr500: nope, I use the default theme
[06:49] <Kuyaedz> Storkme: try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5674
[06:49] <fr500> Ng, ie: Human theme
[06:49] <fr500> Ng, that is clearlooks
[06:49] <Ng> fr500: then yes
[06:49] <poningru> phil_: what software is it? can you give me the link to the website?
[06:49] <fr500> hmmm
[06:49] <fr500> weird
[06:49] <abarbaccia> anybody here know of a wireless USB adapter that works in ubuntu
[06:50] <HappyFool> shivy_: there is t (look at ls -ld /tmp), but I don't know what T means
[06:50] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: I get the following error...
[06:50] <poningru> abarbaccia: tons take a look at the !wifi page
[06:50] <poningru> !wifi
[06:50] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:50] <phil_> poningru -- how do you normally install soemthing outside of the ubuntu repositories?
[06:50] <holycow> anyone here use gparted?  is it a trusted app?
[06:50] <Kuyaedz> Storkme: part of your problem is you're using the older mirrormax backports.  Try using something similar to my sources.list and you should be fixed
[06:50] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: The following problems were found on your system:  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:50] <qt2> okay
[06:50] <diesel> Storkme: Those repos look okay, except for the backports...they are not guarenteed to work
[06:50] <trappist> holycow: great app
[06:50] <poningru> phil_: you can compile the source or install from the binary
[06:50] <qt2> this computer is seerly screwed up...
[06:50] <qt2> and i get the feeling im only gonna screw it up more..
[06:50] <HappyFool> shivy_: oh, look at the info page for ls -- it's explained there
[06:51] <Talisker> I'm trying to install mplayer and I get that it has no installation candidate, what should I do?
[06:51] <poningru> phil_: for example firefox 1.5 is given as a binary that installs the software
[06:51] <Kuyaedz> Storkme: again, after you've updated your sources.list be sure to apt-get update & then upgrade.  After that you should be able to install gnump3d just fine
[06:51] <phil_> poningru -- what installs the binaries in Ubuntu?
[06:51] <holycow> trappist, never had probs with it? i'm about to move some partitions about on an extra hd.
[06:51] <qt2> it's tellng me i cant compile the nvidia stuff because i have a different gcc in use, even though i konow i have the other gcc installed as well..
[06:51] <_jason> ubotu, tell Talisker about mplayer
[06:51] <HappyFool> Talisker: what are you using? apt-get, synaptic.. ?
[06:51] <vegos> my grub stopped working, can someone tell me how to startup windows?
[06:52] <diesel> Storkme: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnump3d
[06:52] <_jason> Talisker, you have to choose a package specific for your architecture, not just 'mplayer'
[06:52] <Oblivion^> i've installed mpg123 and cplay, but when i try to play a song in cplay it says player not found, can i somehow tell cplay to use mpg123?
[06:52] <poningru> phil_: the binary itself is a script most likely that calls on other files
[06:52] <trappist> holycow: it's just a frontend for command-line partitioning tools and is as reliable as those, and they're pretty reliable.
[06:52] <holycow> trappist, ah cool, thank you
[06:52] <poningru> phil_: its too complex for me to explain what software do you want to install?
[06:52] <vegos> my grub stopped working, can someone tell me how to startup windows?
[06:53] <poningru> phil_: if you can link me to a website I can tell you exactly what to do
[06:53] <poningru> !grub
[06:53] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:53] <phil_> poningru -- yeah, it's a huge mess of different dependent binaries.  Can't tell you the ware b/c of Christian Heavy Metal content.
[06:53] <poningru> vegos: take a look at the second link
[06:54] <northie> After switching sound cards a few times, my sound doesn't work. When I boot from the live cd, my sound works fine from autodetect (sb live!). Could I reset my sound settings or something?
[06:54] <phil_> poningru -- thanks for your patience and help.  just kidding about the christian thing, happy holidays.
[06:54] <poningru> phil_: hehe yep
[06:54] <northie> I don't feel like reinstalling ubuntu again.
[06:54] <Kuyaedz> northie: check out System > Preferences > Sound and specify your card.  You may have to reboot after the change
[06:55] <northie> Can't change a card there.
[06:55] <northie> It won't let me choose any.
[06:55] <Kuyaedz> northie: I had the same problem after installing my SB Live 5.1 to replace my onboard.
[06:55] <northie> lspci shows a detect.
[06:55] <Kuyaedz> northie: so you have just one card installed but no audio-output?
[06:56] <Oblivion^> who can help me with cplay?
[06:56] <northie> I do not know what that means.
[06:56] <vegos> does anyone know how to boot windows by going around grub
[06:56] <northie> But, well, there's just one sound card in there, and I've disabled the onboard.
[06:56] <Kuyaedz> vegos: you're most likely going to have to go thru grub.  What happens now? forced boot into Ubuntu?
[06:56] <poningru> vegos: just reinstall grub
[06:56] <northie> Only I can't choose anything in settings/sund.
[06:56] <trappist> northie: sudo modprobe emu10k1
[06:56] <northie> sound.
[06:57] <Kuyaedz> northie: ...and you get no sound? Hmm.
[06:57] <vegos> i cant reinstall grub because im stuck at an error screen
[06:57] <vegos> cant go to either OS
[06:57] <Kuyaedz> vegos: what is your error?
[06:57] <poningru> vegos: whats the error?
[06:57] <stewski> anyone got advice on good open source cad or architectural plan drawing software?
[06:57] <northie> Kuyadez: Yeah. And there's a red X next to the sound volume thingy.
[06:57] <poningru> stewski: plenty
[06:57] <poningru> !cad
[06:57] <ubotu> poningru: Are you smoking crack?
[06:57] <northie> Trappist: Doesn't give an echo. Did it do anything?
[06:57] <vegos> i was formatting a partition and i think i accedentally deleted some of the grub's files
[06:58] <trappist> northie: it should have loaded the driver for sblive! and not echoed anything
[06:58] <stewski> really poningru hit me up with some names
[06:58] <vegos> i think it is trying to startup grub, but grub is not there
[06:58] <poningru> stewski: hold on there was a page on the wiki that has a list
[06:58] <trappist> stewski: I search freshmeat when I have a question like that
[06:58] <northie> trappist:  all should be fine after a restart?
[06:58] <stewski> Been on there too many too mention
[06:58] <trappist> northie: no... if you want the driver to auto-load add 'emu10k1' (without quotes) to /etc/modules
[06:59] <BlueDevil> Xenguy: you could try removing the lists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , but that could be potentially harmful, don't know
[06:59] <stewski> I figure this place isnt bad for app advice as well as support though
[06:59] <Kuyaedz> trappist: doesn't modprobe -m add that to the modules for you?
[06:59] <holycow> trappist, indeed, wonderfull application.
[06:59] <northie> Should I see some immediate improvement following the modprobe?
[06:59] <trappist> stewski: no problem with that.  I though you were having trouble finding one :)
[07:00] <trappist> Kuyaedz: I dunno, I'll have to look into that
[07:00] <Kuyaedz> northie: assuming the modprobe didn't return errors it SHOULD be working now.  Still no sound?
[07:00] <poningru> stewski: yeah I cant find the page guess it got deleted hold on
[07:00] <Xenguy> BlueDevil: thanks for your efforts; I'm not sure either.  I need to somehow re-initialize my md5sum records I think
[07:00] <stewski> lol with FLOSS the touble is usualy finding the right one :-)
[07:00] <Kuyaedz> trappist: I used that for my wireless driver via modprobe..
[07:00] <northie> Kuyaedz,  Well, still no sound card selectable.
[07:00] <northie> The "Default Sound Card:" box under preferences/sound is blank.
[07:01] <trappist> Kuyaedz: I see nothing about it in man modprobe
[07:01] <Seveas> phil_, *ping*
[07:01] <northie> Volume control echoes: The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[07:01] <Seveas> did you have more questions?
[07:01] <Kuyaedz> stewski: Add Applications lists QCad for a CAD system..
[07:01] <Dido-> I got this error: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.3-winehq-1_i386.deb , how should I keep trying to get this package manually?
[07:01] <stewski> Im not averse to inkscape so It may be a case of finding some good floor plan piece parts
[07:02] <trappist> why doesn't ubuntu ship with alsaconf?  it's perfect for problems like northie's
[07:02] <poningru> stewski: try what Kuyaedz said qcad
[07:02] <northie> Ought I dl alsaconf?
[07:02] <stewski> Q cads what Ive seen tipped but I couldnt see much in the way of pre built architects stuff
[07:02] <BlueDevil> Seveas: do you know by any chance if "connect to console session" support will be added to freenx soon or ever? :)
[07:02] <poningru> hmm
[07:02] <Kuyaedz> stewski: I've never installed/played with CAD programs under linux so I couldn't suggest one, but that is listed in the Add Applications
[07:02] <Seveas> ever, not soon
[07:02] <Oblivion^> when i do mpg321 <mp3file> it plays my mp3-file, but when i use cplay it says it cant find my player. any way to fix this?
[07:03] <fr500> is there a way i can backup my dpkg database, so after a format i can mark all the software i have installed now and reinstall everything?
[07:03] <poningru> stewski: if you are looking for floor plan
[07:03] <Seveas> don't use cplay :)
[07:03] <Seveas> or use an esd version of it
[07:03] <BlueDevil> thanks
[07:03] <Kuyaedz> Seveas: lol
[07:03] <Fujoor> quit
[07:03] <fr500> mannn i screwed it up badly
[07:03] <Dido-> I got this error: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.3-winehq-1_i386.deb , how should I keep trying to get this package manually?
[07:04] <Oblivion^> Seveas: then what do i use? i need something for the console. and what's the esd version ?
[07:04] <fr500> clearlooks was making some apps crash, and i removed it
[07:04] <stewski> dont keep me in suspense poningru :-)
[07:04] <Jason> I've got an issue with ubuntu on my laptop. But it's not an ubuntu specific issue. The problem is that I upgraded my laptop from a MT-30 (1.6ghz) to a MT-40 (2.2ghz) and cpu throttling no longer works. powernowd in dmsg says it's not supported. I tried to compile 2.6.14 (2.6.13 includes amd's powernowd-k8 code) and still no luck. Anyone else know about this issue or have a workaround?
[07:04] <fr500> but it removed a lot of stuff
[07:04] <Seveas> Oblivion^, isn't mpg321 enough?
[07:04] <Kuyaedz> Dido-: are you trying to install wine from the source or have you tried the package version?
[07:04] <poningru> stewski: hehe hold on
[07:04] <Ng> fr500: install ubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <Dido-> Kuyaedz i'm trying with the package manager
[07:04] <poningru> stewski: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
[07:04] <Ng> fr500: that should pull everything back in
[07:04] <northie> trappist, isn't emu10k1 already in modules?
[07:04] <Oblivion^> Seveas: i don't know of a way to open playlists in mpg321
[07:05] <poningru> I am looking through that
[07:05] <northie> trappist, Whereabouts should I add it, anyhow?
[07:05] <fr500> Ng, not anymore i think, if you chck it to remove it's no logner related to everything
[07:05] <Kuyaedz> Dido-: apt-get install wine gives you that error?
[07:05] <northie> trappist, It's a big file full of strange writings.
[07:05] <trappist> northie: anywhere should be fine
[07:05] <Dido-> Kuyaedz let me try now
[07:05] <Ng> fr500: eh? ;)
[07:05] <Ng> fr500: the package has a huge Depends line, if you install it, it'll pull back in those dependencies
[07:05] <Kuyaedz> I love that northie.. 'strange writings' :)
[07:06] <fr500> Ng oh well i thoght that had changed
[07:06] <northie> wuv
[07:06] <poningru> brb
[07:06] <northie> My main reason for getting sound is to have my Indiana Jones soundtrack follow these code excavations.
[07:06] <christianp> does anyone can help me in finding a good tool to rip DVD? I want to convert my handycam video into divx.
[07:06] <Ng> fr500: not as far as I can see - if ubuntu-desktop didn't depend on anything then it would have no point, it's just a metapackage
[07:07] <northie> trappist, What was that about alsaconf?
[07:07] <Kuyaedz> Ng/fr500: ubuntu-desktop is safely removable
[07:07] <Ng> Kuyaedz: that's not what we're talking about ;)
[07:07] <Dido-> Kuyaedz WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[07:07] <Dido->   wine
[07:07] <trappist> northie: alsaconf would fix this for you very easily if ubuntu shipped it.  you might consider downloading it.
[07:07] <Seveas> !info alsaconf
[07:07] <northie> trappist, it's not in synaptic, is it?
[07:08] <Kuyaedz> Dido-: you should be ok with installing that.  Its just from an outside repository that isn't authenticated.  I've got a few 'un-authenticated' programs installed..
[07:08] <trappist> northie: no
[07:08] <Kuyaedz> Ng: I guess I'm trying to get into too many conversations at once ;)
[07:08] <Dido-> Kuyaedz right, i'll try now. thanks
[07:08] <Dido-> ;)
[07:08] <northie> Oh well, I've got a good feeling. Thanks trappist and Kuyaedz.
[07:09] <northie> I'll reinstall if it won't work now. It's just the principle of the thing. If it works from the live cd then it ought to be easy to work now :p
[07:10] <Kuyaedz> can anyone tell me how to process updates for my entire LAN without manually SSHing into each box?
[07:10] <Dido-> Is there a possibilty to edit my curret keyboard layout
[07:11] <linukso> Hi! I wonder who decides what is backported to breezy, and whats not?
[07:11] <Kuyaedz> Dido-: check out System > Preferences > Keyboard and poke around
[07:11] <fr500> Ng, weee it worked
[07:11] <Ng> :)
[07:11] <fr500> and fixed evolution
[07:11] <kmaynard> garr...cant log in to phpmyadmin
[07:11] <Ng> excellent, but weird
[07:11] <fr500> maybe it were the cairo enabled clearlloks i had
[07:12] <Dido-> Kuyaedz i've tried this already, can't find there such options
[07:12] <skar> hi, tried exporting a sample "test pdf" file into a pdf and it is around 110K, how can 2 words "test pdf" create a pdf of 110K?
[07:12] <skar> any idea to reduce the size?
[07:12] <Kuyaedz> Dido-: what is it you're specifically trying to do?
[07:13] <hmpedersen> Ne1 know how to get internet explorer workin on ubuntu?
[07:13] <Kagura_> Use firefox it can do everything IE can.
[07:13] <phrocker> hey
[07:13] <phrocker> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: File or directory not found. Stop.
[07:13] <northie> :/
[07:13] <phrocker> Where I fount this directory?
[07:13] <Kuyaedz> Kagura_: technically, yeah, but some sites require IE (which is lame)
[07:14] <Dido-> Kuyaedz now the layout is BDS (bulgarian standart or sumting like that) I want to change it to bulgarian phonetic, i want to change the buttons somehow
[07:14] <Kuyaedz> hmpedersen: use firefox where available, but to use IE you'd have to get into installing WINE to emulate windows programs.
[07:14] <hmpedersen> Kagura, no it cant.. Besides, my question was how to install..
[07:14] <Kagura_> But if you insist on using IE wine can run it also another trick would be to set the browser to ID it'sself as IE.
[07:14] <northie> trappist, No luck. aplay -l gives No soundcards found.
[07:14] <hmpedersen> kuyaedz, i know.. i have wine.. IE started installing, then stopped and complained about wrong OS..
[07:15] <Kagura_> Most of these IE only sites do a stupid redirecting trick based on the recieved browser version.
[07:15] <northie> trappist, But still, lspci finds it.
[07:15] <Kuyaedz> Kagura_: where is that option in firefox?  I have a work-related site that requires IE and I have never been able to figure it out
[07:15] <phrocker> somebody can I help me?
[07:15] <mrkoje> phrocker,  what do you need help with?
[07:15] <phrocker> mrkoje,  make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: File or directory not found. Stop.
[07:15] <hmpedersen> Kuyaedz, you need to install the agent-switch plugin..
[07:15] <phrocker> mrkoje, where I found this directory? what package?
[07:16] <kakei> hi any idea if existe w64codecs of similar ?
[07:16] <mrkoje> phrocker,  I'm not sure what your talking about
[07:16] <mrkoje> phrocker, sorry
[07:16] <phrocker> mrkoje, tks
[07:16] <skar> hi, any one know how to upgrade OO2(1.9.x) shipped with breezy to the final 2.0.0 release?
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. << what is dpkg ?
[07:17] <mrkoje> !dpkg
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> how do i run configure -a ?
[07:17] <mrkoje> ubotu tell CaptainMorgan about !dpkg
[07:17] <kvidell> oh my god, it's a dream come true
[07:17] <meepy> !dpkg
[07:18] <kvidell> thank you.
[07:18] <hmpedersen> captainmorgan did you tey dpkg --configure -a
[07:18] <hmpedersen> try*
[07:18] <skar> hi, any one know how to upgrade OO2(1.9.x build) shipped with breezy to the final 2.0.0 release?
[07:18] <Kagura_> As far as I know there are no W64 codec solution yet other then using a 32bit mplayer.
[07:18] <mrkoje> !beer
[07:18] <Kagura_> I had to run a 32bit firefox so I can use flash.
[07:19] <Ng> skar: there isn't a simple way at the moment as far as I know
[07:19] <advent_linux> can someone do me a favour and try and ssh to: rose.homelinux.net
[07:19] <advent_linux> trying to set up dyndns
[07:19] <Ng> advent_linux: that hostname resolves to 192.168.1.4 at the moment, so no ;)
[07:20] <advent_linux> thats strange
[07:20] <Dido-> Is there a possibilty to edit my curret keyboard layout? I want to change the buttons somehow, for exaple I want when pressing A, B to be displayed..
[07:20] <zulfiqar> i have installed xfce just now and now how do i cange from gnome desktop to xfce?
[07:20] <hmpedersen> Now.. I need ie6 and wmp9 installed to access the webtv i pay for.. neither of them will install trough wine :(
[07:21] <Kagura_> I wonder if it might be possible to make a wrapper to use OSX X86 codecs in linux as these might be avilable before then windows 64 ones are.
[07:21] <Kagura_> You could try running windows under vmware.
[07:21] <skar> Ng: 1.9.x oo2 is creating BIG 450K pdf for 15K odt files, while 2.0 final for my gentoo build is doing the pdf at 80K :(
[07:21] <Ng> Dido-: it can be done, but I don't think there are any easy tools to do it. You'd need to reconfigure XKB
[07:21] <skar> Ng: seems copying the gentoo oo2 files or using oo2 from oo.org site is the way to go?
[07:22] <Ng> skar: I wouldn't copy the files from gentoo, but yaeh
[07:22] <hmpedersen> Kagura.. Vmware on a 5 year old laptop?
[07:22] <Kagura_> Wedtv yah that would be one site that actually would use some IE fetures but I find sites that are IE only a dumb idea.
[07:22] <skar> Ng: hmmm why cant ubuntu have the final oo2 release, instead some crappy buggy 1.9.129 something?!?
[07:22] <Dido-> Ng let me try this, how can i reach XKB
[07:23] <hmpedersen> bah.. i give up!
[07:23] <skar> Ng: particularly for an all important package like oo2 ;)
[07:23] <Davethewave> everyone miss me?
[07:23] <hmpedersen> Im gonna go boot the machine runnin windows and watch it
[07:23] <Ng> skar: the policy is that after a release they only put security/grave bugfixes in, otherwise they'd spend the whole time updating breezy when they should be working on dapper
[07:24] <hmpedersen> only 30 minutes till next episode, and i want to watch yesterdays episode first
[07:24] <hmpedersen> no more time to try get it running here
[07:24] <Ng> skar: at some point I expect a backport will appear though
[07:24] <Ng> Dido-: it's part of the X server
[07:24] <Ng> Dido-: see the xkbutils package as a starting point, also google
[07:24] <Kagura_> I think I might have found a kernel and fglrx driver version conflict when I was setting up my myth tv box.
[07:25] <skar> Ng: oh ok
[07:25] <Kagura_> That or an incompatibility with the AMD64-gart driver and the SIS 755 chipset.
[07:26] <skar> Ng: at least they could've given oo 1.5 instead, which is a stable release iirc
[07:26] <Ng> skar: don't think so
[07:26] <zulfiqar> can someone tell me how to switch to xfce once installed from package manager?
[07:26] <Ng> skar: 1.1.5
[07:27] <qt2> well.. this is strange... the ssh is incredily laggy as hell.
[07:27] <kvidell> zulfiqar: log out, hit F10 at the login screen, click "Sessions", select XFCE, enter your sign-in information as normal.
[07:27] <Kagura_> Well so much for a low noise solution the only card that worked right was a geforce 5985 I had on hand.
[07:27] <Ng> skar: which should be available in universe still
[07:27] <ToR911> when i try to isntal vmware tools, it tells me that my gcc version 4.0.? is too high because the kernel was compiled on a lower version, what should i do?
[07:27] <zandaa> Subhuman, you there?
[07:28] <Jason> tor911, install the required GCC version, and export GCC=/path/to/3.4gcc and it will function perfectly fine.
[07:28] <skar> Ng: hmm can 1.1.5 and 2 co-exist w/o corrupting each other?
[07:28] <Ng> skar: yep
[07:28] <VIPER^|^> hello there anybody can help me plz am getting this error
[07:28] <VIPER^|^> stubs-zlib.c:174: error: `Z_OK' undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:28] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : *** [stubs-zlib.o]  Error 2
[07:28] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'
[07:28] <VIPER^|^> make: *** [cryptokit-1.0/cryptokit.cma]  Error 2
[07:28] <ToR911> jason, then i need to put it back to gcc 4.0.? , right?
[07:28] <Kagura_> Has anyone else ran into a problem with the kernel DRM driver not loading for ATI cards on any AMD-64 based chipset?
[07:29] <Jason> tor, you can have 3.4 and 4.0 installed at the same time. just export GCC to the old 3.4 whenever you need it.
[07:29] <Ng> VIPER^|^: we're not really here to support random compilation problems ;)
[07:30] <Jason> if anyone knows anything about powernow, i posted a question on the forum with all the details I could think of. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=567110
[07:30] <VIPER^|^> sorry but am asking if some1 has any idea
[07:30] <VIPER^|^> cant i ??
[07:30] <ToR911> k
[07:30] <ToR911> ty
[07:30] <holycow> *hmmm* having defaults as an option in fstab should give all users on the system write access to a mounted drive, correct?
[07:30] <jenda> Of course you can, VIPER^|^
[07:30] <Ng> holycow: nope
[07:30] <VIPER^|^> thanks jenda
[07:30] <pozdiy> how to make xdm to be a default manager without removing gdm?
[07:30] <VIPER^|^> plz cani any1 help me
[07:31] <ToR911> btw is this normal :) : kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloack(0, 0)
[07:31] <zandaa> Subhuman??? any help?
[07:31] <Subhuman> ?
[07:31] <ToR911> i change the root's password last session if it matters..
[07:31] <dashinho> Hello, fast question, do I have to install something to use cgi scripts on my apache installation?
[07:31] <zandaa> Subhuman, GAG can't load Ubuntu
[07:31] <Subhuman> zandaa, whats up?
[07:31] <holycow> Ng, oh ... i tried just rw that didn't work either ... k. more googling
[07:32] <Subhuman> did u select the correct partiton
[07:32] <Subhuman> 1 sec
[07:32] <zandaa> Subhuman, I'm sure I did
[07:32] <_willcooke_> dashinho, it depends what language the cgi is written in
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> hello there anybody can help me plz am getting this error
[07:32] <dashinho> _willcooke_, perl/python
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> stubs-zlib.c:174: error: `Z_OK' undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : *** [stubs-zlib.o]  Error 2
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/rami/Desktop/SKS Project/sks-1.0.10/cryptokit-1.0'
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> make: *** [cryptokit-1.0/cryptokit.cma]  Error 2
[07:32] <Ng> holycow: look at the uid and gid mount options - you'll need to mount the share such that its ownership/permissions allow people access, or you can specify the "user" option to allow a single user to mount and have access
[07:32] <Subhuman> back
[07:32] <pozdiy> pozdiy, dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[07:32] <Subhuman> and what did it say?
[07:32] <zandaa> Subhuman, I'm sure I did
[07:32] <Ng> VIPER^|^: please don't paste errors here, use a pastebin
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> ok
[07:32] <holycow> Ng, oh!
[07:32] <typo> anyone know how I can change the color temperature of my laptop's LCD?
[07:32] <Subhuman> !tell VIPER^|^ about pastebin
[07:32] <VIPER^|^> but can any1 read the error to guide me plz
[07:32] <holycow> allright, thanks!
[07:32] <Kagura_> What chipset is it?
[07:33] <zandaa> subhuman, it said some kinda thing about sectors etc. (I have both Win + Lin on the same HD)
[07:33] <_willcooke_> dashinho, ok, you should have all the correct bits installed already, you need to change your apache config to tell it that extenstion ".pl" or ".py" are cgi
[07:33] <Ratty_> hiya
[07:33] <Kagura_> If it's an ATi or nvidia based chipset it's easy.
[07:33] <northie> After a few sound card switches, my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not from within main drive ubuntu. Can I somehow reset my hardware detection?
[07:33] <Ng> VIPER^|^: you will get on far better asking for support from whoever's code that is you're trying to compile - that is a fairly generic error and you haven't even said what you're trying to compile ;)
[07:33] <Subhuman> hmm, so did u get the linux boot menu at all?
[07:33] <zandaa> Subhuman, nope
[07:33] <_willcooke_> dashinho, apache 2 or 1?  1 is easier in my opinion.
[07:33] <derek[] > Hi
[07:33] <zandaa> Subhuman, the bootloader just sat there... only thing I could do was boot to windows
[07:33] <Ratty_> i have a broken icon in my nautils toolbar, how do i fix it? it's broken on every theme, even the default human theme: http://junk.shitsoftware.com/broken.png
[07:33] <ToR911> what do i do???:    kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-bloack(0, 0)
[07:34] <VIPER^|^> i only wanted some1 to answer me to tell him , am compiling sks source code
[07:34] <derek[] > what's the repository to get the latest xchat/
[07:34] <derek[] > ?
[07:34] <dashinho> _willcooke_, 2
[07:34] <Rev-Marc> I am in need of backing up a directory on one computer to a second computer across the internet on a weekly basis any help greatly appreciated
[07:34] <ClayG> hey gang
[07:34] <_jason> derek[] , backports
[07:34] <Subhuman> hmmm, well it might be something to do with the ubuntu partition, it might not be flagged as bootable.
[07:34] <ClayG> anyway to buy a domain name and use it for my small network at home?
[07:34] <VIPER^|^> Ng, can u help me
[07:35] <ToR911> clayG, yeh
[07:35] <ClayG> without setting up nameservers on the local machines (which i thought is the only way)
[07:35] <derek[] > _jason, ? sorry, i didn't understand
[07:35] <ClayG> ahhh
[07:35] <Kagura_> What X driver are you using on the laptop?
[07:35] <ClayG> ToR911: lay it on me!
[07:35] <Subhuman> anyway zandaa im off for a bit now, sorry about it, google might be of help here
[07:35] <zandaa> Subhuman, ok, thnx
[07:35] <_jason> derek[] , the backports repo has xchat 2.6
[07:35] <ToR911> clayg: u want one domain name for ur entire local network, right?
[07:35] <Ng> VIPER^|^: not really, I've never compiled sks and that error suggests the code is wrong
[07:35] <ClayG> yes for my 4 node network ;)
[07:35] <Rev-Marc> I am in need of backing up a directory on one computer to a second computer across the internet on a weekly basis any help greatly appreciated
[07:36] <northie> help: After a few sound card switches, my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not from within main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection?
[07:36] <derek[] > _jason, address?
[07:36] <ClayG> without dyndns. i have that now, and i agree it's GREAT
[07:36] <Ng> VIPER^|^: I strongly advise you contact the SKS project for help compiling their software
[07:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell derek[]  about easysource
[07:36] <ClayG> but I want a "real" domain name
[07:36] <ClayG> and i want to do it the real way
[07:36] <VIPER^|^> Ng, aha ok thanks man i only wanted an advice u know(to be guided)
[07:36] <Ng> :)
[07:36] <ToR911> clayg: 2 ways, 1) cheap way, get a free dyndns.org  domain IE: clayg.dyndns.org  - u put a program that checks ur ip every few hours and updates te domain to ur current dynamic ip
[07:37] <_willcooke_> dashinho, have a look on google, the line you want is "AddHandler", you'll need to put ".py" or ".pl" on there.  Sorry, I'm not familiar with apache2 yet
[07:37] <ClayG> nope got that already
[07:37] <Ng> ClayG: get a static IP is the best route :)
[07:37] <ToR911> 2) u buy a domain name from ur ISP, with a static ip, and they set up all the nameserver settigns on their nameserver
[07:37] <Rev-Marc> no answer no joy later
[07:37] <ClayG> hmmmm
[07:37] <ClayG> I see
[07:38] <ClayG> I dont like those options
[07:38] <Vale>  ragazzi questo sito  una figata http://www.codif.altervista.org
[07:38] <ClayG> hehehe
[07:38] <ClayG> that's gonne kiill me on cost
[07:38] <_willcooke_> dashinho, oh, and you'll need to make sure your scripts start with #!/path/to/python/bin
[07:38] <ClayG> you guys know about those free belgium domain names till 2006?
[07:38] <ClayG> .be's
[07:38] <northie> help: After a few sound card switches, my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not from within main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection?
[07:38] <ToR911> clayg, domains, cost 100-200$ for 2 years
[07:38] <ToR911> no
[07:38] <ClayG> waht?!
[07:38] <ClayG> nah yahoo has them for 2.99
[07:38] <Oblivion^> 100-200$ :|
[07:38] <ClayG> netfirms 4.99
[07:38] <Kuyaedz> ToR911: where do you get those numbers?
[07:39] <ClayG> .be's are free now
[07:39] <Ng> ToR911: nonsense, domains cost nothing like that these days :)
[07:39] <ToR911> yeh
[07:39] <ToR911> but a .com costs
[07:39] <ClayG> Yahoo has them for 2.99
[07:39] <ClayG> no .COM!
[07:39] <ClayG> ANYTHING
[07:39] <Kuyaedz> I've got four personally hosted domains & I spent $7.95 for each of them
[07:39] <ClayG> 2.99
[07:39] <ClayG> netfirms anything 4.99
[07:39] <Oblivion^> ClayG: how can you get a free .be domain then? i've looked for it but i couldn't find it
[07:39] <ClayG> Oblivion^: there is only one legit place now
[07:39] <ClayG> peep this
[07:39] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org  its beutiful!
[07:39] <Ng> ToR911: rubbish
[07:39] <Ng> ToR911: a domain costs about $30 a year
[07:39] <ClayG> eurodns.com
[07:39] <Ng> (.com)
[07:40] <ClayG> im gonna grab some right now before they get eaten up
[07:40] <Oblivion^> ty
[07:40] <Kuyaedz> Ng/ToR911: sounds like you guys are quoting hosting prices.  Domains are under $10 everywhere
[07:40] <ToR911> k
[07:40] <Ng> Kuyaedz: depends where you go, but yeah, they're damn cheap these days
[07:41] <Ng> your dollars are worth nothing anyway, so 10 or 30 makes little difference to me ;)
[07:41] <ToR911> last time i checked was 2 years ago so i'm not updated :)
[07:41] <Kuyaedz> Ng: yeah, prices vary, but the most I've spent (on 6 personal domains) are $7.95, cheapest is $2.99
[07:41] <meepy> Anyone know why my BMP player stops playing a song if my cpu works a little, or i open a program?
[07:41] <ClayG> Kuyaedz: yes yahoo has them for the low low , followed by netfirms
[07:41] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!     http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!
[07:41] <Ng> it's all about having a .net anyway :)
[07:41] <zandaa> anyone know a good boot loader besides GRUB, LILO or GAG?
[07:41] <ClayG> hmmm
[07:41] <ClayG> nice check this otu
[07:41] <zandaa> (graphical preferred)
[07:41] <ClayG> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[07:42] <ClayG> how to set up an ISP server at home!
[07:42] <ClayG> I have rickred.homelinux.com now, it's brand new and not even read
[07:42] <ClayG> http goes to a machine named rider
[07:42] <ClayG> ssh goes to a machine named,,.......ubuntu (lame i know , oh well)
[07:43] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!     http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!
[07:43] <ClayG> here we go gang  "DNS Server: BIND9" looks like that is what's needed
[07:43] <Kagura_> Nice site I'm going to try this one http://www.howtoforge.com/boot_debian_from_external_firewire
[07:43] <cwin> how can i get a fujitsu fdx310 usb dsl modem working in ubuntu? There are drivers at http://dsl-linux.tripod.com/index/ but this system is still not connected onto a network so I can't get the tools required to compile it
[07:43] <TylerDurden> Salve
[07:44] <Kagura_> I never touched USB modems.
[07:45] <techrush> hi
[07:45] <Kagura_> I made those SOBs give me an ethernet connected modem.
[07:45] <hmpedersen> Is there a way to get wine to start a program in full screen=
[07:45] <skon> Hello I'm trying to use apt-get to get libqt3-mt-dev and it says the package is broken...can anyone help ?
[07:45] <Kagura_> One way to get better service from an ISP tell them you'er on a mac.
[07:46] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!
[07:46] <zandaa> anyone know a good boot loader?
[07:46] <Kuyaedz> skon: have you tried apt-get install -f ?
[07:46] <skon> Kuyaedz: yes taht doesn't work
[07:46] <Kagura_> grub works good on X86 for me while yaboot works well on macs.
[07:46] <Ng> Vale: shoosh ;)
[07:46] <northie> help: my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not in main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection or something?
[07:47] <cwin> Kagura_, yeah... except these drivers do have mac support apparently ;)
[07:47] <Kagura_> This is a cable modem right?
[07:47] <cwin> well.. DSL
[07:47] <Kagura_> I never seen a  dsl modem with no ethernet.
[07:48] <zandaa> Kagura_ I'm searching for an alternative to GRUB
[07:48] <cwin> well.. this is one without ethernet
[07:48] <zandaa> brb
[07:48] <pdani_> hi
[07:48] <Kagura_> Tell them it's broken and demand one with ethernet.
[07:48] <Kagura_> That or just buy one from best buy or ask for the 2wire modem router combo.
[07:48] <Doobry> Hello, bit of a noob question I guess but anyone any idea why my system wouldn't be allowing me to use more than 1024x768 when the DVD Live ran at 1280x1024?
[07:49] <cwin> well, i've got a gentoo system (obviously with a completely working build environment) but this is for a friend with the fdx310..
[07:49] <pdani_> where can i get the ubuntu patches for 2.6.12 kernel?
[07:49] <cwin> not sure how to make ubuntu packages or anything though
[07:49] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!  http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!
[07:49] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!
[07:49] <Ng> Vale: stop that
[07:49] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!   http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!
[07:49] <Ng> !ops
[07:49] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[07:49] <ClayG> hey
[07:49] <ClayG> yeah cut that out
[07:49] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    its beutiful!!    who is
[07:49] <Kagura_> Spammer.
[07:49] <Seveas> stupid mofo
[07:49] <ClayG> just ignore him
[07:50] <ClayG> Seveas i think i found a work around
[07:50] <derek[] > http://pastebin.com/461190
[07:50] <Seveas> ClayG, for what?
[07:50] <ClayG> my domain name at home trick
[07:50] <Seveas> ah :)
[07:50] <ClayG> if it works ill be connecting under my new domain
[07:51] <techrush> how long is www.gnome-look.org going to be down :((((
[07:51] <nalioth> spamvertising is simply hideous
[07:51] <Gul3> hello! how do i extract a xbox iso in ubuntu...? help please..
[07:51] <oxez> isn't that illegal?
[07:52] <testmachine> whats illegal?
[07:52] <Gul3> oxez: depends on whats in the iso:)
[07:52] <zandaa> Gul3, I don't think emulation should be discussed here
[07:52] <Kagura_> ubuntu on an Xbox isn't the ram a little tight on those for ubuntu?
[07:52] <leed> hello all
[07:52] <skon> Nobody can help me with why my libqt3-mt-dev package is broken?
[07:52] <Kuyaedz> skon: try using 'fix broken' in synaptic to fix that issue
[07:52] <Gul3> zandaa: this is not a emulation related question..
[07:53] <Kagura_> emulation is ok the xbox has yet to have a decincet emulator
[07:53] <tobi-wan> skon: trying to install skype?
[07:53] <skon> No...trying to compile a WiFi driver
[07:53] <Kagura_> I mean who plays snes games ona real snes anymore?
[07:53] <zandaa> Gul3, sorry then
[07:53] <zandaa> Kagura_ I play NES games on a real NES if it matter:P
[07:53] <Gul3> zandaa: ok:)
[07:54] <Gul3> anybody know what i have to do?
[07:54] <Kagura_> I hasn't owned an NEs in a long time though I still have an apple IIe.
[07:54] <Doobry> Hello, bit of a noob question I guess but anyone any idea why my system wouldn't be allowing me to use more than 1024x768 when the DVD Live ran at 1280x1024? (repeated thanks to pesky spammer)
[07:54] <deltron> hehe, I love my SNES system
[07:54] <zandaa> if I want to use a boot-loader other than GRUB, do I have to make a boot partition for linux?
[07:55] <skon> Zandaa: no
[07:55] <Kagura_> I make my sempron box on my big screen play those old games.
[07:55] <sethk> zandaa, you don't have to make a boot partition regardless of the boot loader
[07:55] <skon> No boot partition....either install it on the MBR or on the first sector of the boot record
[07:55] <mkyb14> I know that Imagemagick was installed with the base install of ubuntu, but whereis command isn't finding it. does anyone know where it is located?
[07:55] <zandaa> skon, because this GAG bootloader doesn't wanna boot my Ubuntu :(
[07:55] <skon> Hmm I've never worked with GAG, I can't help you sorry
[07:55] <sethk> the presence or absence of a boot partition is orthogonal to the location of installation of the boot loader
[07:55] <Kagura_> I hate to spammertize but those sempron 64s area very good buy it's almost as fast as one core on my AMDX2 box after I got done OCing it.
[07:56] <sethk> zandaa, what happens?
[07:56] <zandaa> sethk, once I try to use GAG to boot my Ubuntu partition, it says something about sector failure and stuff
[07:56] <Kagura_> I sugest you use a nvidia videocard if you use an SIS755 or KT800 chipset with them.
[07:56] <sethk> zandaa, I might be able to say something intelligent, but I would need the error message, not a few words that may have been in the error message
[07:56] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: imagemagick is a collection of tools, there is no such executable as "imagemagick" (there is "convert", for instance)
[07:57] <zandaa> sethk, I'll check once again... is there any way to put the grub-installer on a floppy disk?
[07:57] <Kagura_> For some odd reason the fglrx driver hates the agpgart on those.
[07:57] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: i need the path for gallery2 so that it can redo the images
[07:57] <sethk> zandaa, sure, on a floppy or on a cde
[07:57] <sethk> s/cde/cd/
[07:57] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: ah, i see.... for me, gallery2 automatically found it.... what is it asking for, exactly...
[07:57] <zandaa> sethk, how do I do that then?
[07:58] <sethk> zandaa, do info grub, it gives a reasonably complete explanation.  Or look up a howto, there are several about
[07:58] <sethk> zandaa, info grub   has a procedure.
[07:58] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: you could try /usr/bin, that's where my convert command is
[07:58] <zandaa> sethk, ok, I'll keep that as backup boot loader then once GAG fails
[07:58] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: it's asking for the dir " Directory to ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick binaries" with a blank for the information
[07:58] <sethk> zandaa, basically you just say setup (fd0), once everything else in the config file is correct
[07:58] <Kagura_> Can't find anything in the xorg.log except drm module failed to load.
[07:58] <zandaa> sethk, darnit... the comp I'm currently running Live on doesn't have floppy <_<
[07:58] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: try /usr/bin
[07:59] <mkyb14> one sec
[07:59] <fredl> hi. Does anybody know dotdeb.org?
[07:59] <sethk> zandaa, I've done it on a cd/r, although it was a few months ago and I'd have to look up how I did it.
[07:59] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: failed ...   x11folder??
[07:59] <meepy> How do I add a trashcan on the desktop? :/
[07:59] <sethk> zandaa, or you could download an iso of what I did.  I'll put one up later if you haven't figured it out by this evening
[07:59] <zandaa> sethk, <_< don't have any empty CDs anymore, so that's not gonna work
[07:59] <eSPete> how rod i mount a usb pen whne i dont use gnome/knde?
[08:00] <eSPete> *kde
[08:00] <fredl> I see that dotdeb.org has php5 debs....
[08:00] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: x11folder?
[08:00] <fredl> has anybody tried these php5 debs from dotdeb.org?
[08:00] <sethk> zandaa, well, you have to boot from somewhere.  Why not just use grub in the typical way?  I don't remember why you were trying to use a different boot loader
[08:00] <deltron> fredl: debian != ubuntu
[08:00] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: it gives me a list of folders to choose from but i cant' find the one that has it.
[08:00] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: try "which convert", it should give you the binary path
[08:00] <tobi-wan> hmm.......
[08:00] <varsendagger> hey
[08:00] <mkyb14> in ssh?
[08:01] <fredl> deltron - I know.
[08:01] <Kagura_> I wonder if I should dump my old P4 box at the goodwill.
[08:01] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: yep
[08:01] <mkyb14> ok onse sec
[08:01] <deltron> as far as I know, debian debs won't work in ubuntu
[08:01] <techrush> why would you dump a p4 at goodwill
[08:01] <Kagura_> Even the damn sempron is faster then it thats why.
[08:01] <varsendagger> deltron, how do you figure?
[08:01] <techrush> ic
[08:01] <deltron> varsendagger: just what i've read in here
[08:02] <fredl> deltron - could be, since dependencies may differ on details.
[08:02] <deltron> !debian
[08:02] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[08:02] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: it gave me nothing.  just the terminal again
[08:02] <Kagura_> Yah it's an old norwood core.
[08:02] <tobi-wan> deltron: well, most deb's do work
[08:02] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: which means that imagemagick is not installed
[08:02] <deltron> righto
[08:02] <mkyb14> bummer, it said that it was
[08:02] <techrush> sometimes i hear my laptop mack this loud CRACKING noise
[08:02] <zandaa> hey sethk, if I can't get the GRUB to work... can't I just pop in the install CD, skip all the installation up till GRUB?
[08:02] <techrush> :(
[08:02] <techrush> scares me
[08:03] <Kagura_> Unplug it now
[08:03] <fredl> tobi-wan - on #debian it's frowned on to add lines to sources.list. Probably should be frowned on on Ubuntu as well, but I'd really like to try out mysql 5
[08:03] <northie> my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not in main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection or something?
[08:03] <Kagura_> I had one do that the battery cells exploded
[08:03] <techrush> :(
[08:03] <meepy> How do I add a trashcan on the desktop? :/
[08:03] <deltron> why is it frowned upon? I add lines to my list...
[08:03] <Kagura_> Didn't catch on fire as this was a toshiba.
[08:03] <tobi-wan> fredl: i tried mysql5 on ubuntu and it worked
[08:03] <techrush> it sounds more like the case expanding
[08:03] <techrush> when its first warming up
[08:04] <techrush> cuz its kinda chilly in my room
[08:04] <sethk> zandaa, yes.  the easiest way is to download the fedora rescue cd, then at the boot prompt type enter, then do the chroot command that it suggests you do, and you are in
[08:04] <techrush> mine is a toshiba too though
[08:04] <fredl> tobi-wan - from the dotdeb.org site by any chance or did you compile it yourself?
[08:04] <techrush> i hope it doesnt excplode
[08:04] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: ok i installed it and /usr/bin is correct thanks
[08:04] <Kagura_> But boy did it smell bad and make a mess in the battery compartment.
[08:04] <sethk> zandaa, you can do it with the ubuntu disk as well
[08:04] <tobi-wan> fredl: ehm, i searched for mysql5 on www.apt-get.org and added the sources
[08:04] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: np
[08:04] <sethk> zandaa, do f1 and look through the help, the right commands are there somewhere
[08:04] <tobi-wan> fredl: that gets me rid of all dependencies
[08:04] <zandaa> sethk, ah wait, I can install this GAG bootloader on the floppy disk :O
[08:05] <zandaa> sethk, so I won't have to mess up the MBR
[08:05] <mkyb14> are there any programs for a image webserver that you can suggest?  i use gallery2.... but didn't know if there were some other options that are better
[08:05] <iustin> hello to everyone ... it is posible to have 2 GUI`s on the same linux?
[08:05] <sophie_> sa va
[08:05] <mkyb14> and coppermine has some security issues
[08:05] <fredl> tobi-wan: hmm. I just searched for that mysql. 0 sites, 0 packages matched.
[08:05] <sethk> zandaa, OK.  if that doesn't work you can boot from the install media
[08:05] <zandaa> iustin, like what?
[08:06] <sophie_> puije parler aJo
[08:06] <mkyb14> mysqld?
[08:06] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: i am quite content with gallery2, it has a lot of nice features
[08:06] <deltron> iustin: like 2 screens?
[08:06] <mkyb14> sweet
[08:06] <mkyb14> thanks again
[08:06] <zandaa> iustin, do you mean like Gnome and KDE on one setup?
[08:06] <tobi-wan> fredl: just a sec *searching*
[08:06] <hmpedersen> anyone who can tell me how to make mp3 play in xmms by default?
[08:06] <zandaa> hmpedersen, doesn't it already?
[08:06] <hmpedersen> zandaa, no, it opens in totem
[08:06] <zandaa> hmpedersen, ah ok
[08:07] <stef65> hi, all
[08:07] <mkyb14> tobi-wan: one more question what do you use for image processing... imagemagick i take it or netbpm?
[08:07] <iustin> yes
[08:07] <iustin> like gnome and kde
[08:07] <hmpedersen> zandaa, and xmms is the only player ive found, that supports draggin folders to playlist.. and i have many folders with music
[08:07] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: imagemagick, but only 'cause i know it is established :-)
[08:07] <mkyb14> k
[08:07] <zandaa> hmpedersen, xmms is a real nice media player:)
[08:08] <fredl> tobi-wan: mysql-server-5.0
[08:08] <hmpedersen> zandaa, yeah.. its more winamp than the linux version of winamp :P
[08:08] <samppa> beep media player is better than xmms
[08:08] <zandaa> iustin, it is possible, at the login screen you should see the option (session) in which you can choose the GUI to load
[08:08] <samppa> and very similar
[08:08] <varsendagger> for some reason when i go to paly an real audio cd xmms won't paly it or it will play it in little bits and beices
[08:08] <tobi-wan> fredl: probably yes :-)
[08:09] <iustin> thank you!
[08:09] <fredl> tobi-wan: yeah I found it and indeed it refers to the dotdeb.org site
[08:09] <zandaa> hmpedersen, you're kidding me :O
[08:09] <stef65> anybody having some info on ubuntu breezy and xorg-support on a via c3/unichrome ? I just get a black screen after trying to install breezy on a mini itx system with a via nehemiah cpu...???
[08:09] <tobi-wan> fredl: well, hopefully, it works :-)
[08:10] <fredl> tobi-wan: you still running mysql 5? are the new features really worth the hassle? It seems like some major major features....
[08:11] <varsendagger> there is a linux verion of winamp?
[08:11] <Kuyaedz> XMMS
[08:11] <fredl> whoah stef65 I've been looking into buying a mini-itx system...
[08:11] <northie> my sb live! works at a live cd boot but not in main drive ubuntu. Can I reset my hardware detection or something?
[08:11] <stef65> varsendagger: it's called xmms
[08:11] <mkyb14> carsendagger: you can use xmms it's similar. or if you want to get trickey use WINE and run winamp
[08:11] <BockBilbo> varsendagger, its not a  linux version of winamp
[08:11] <BockBilbo> its a winamp clone
[08:11] <Kuyaedz> XMMS works great & is REALLY similar to winamp
[08:11] <fredl> xmms rockz
[08:12] <Kuyaedz> northie: still no luck huh?
[08:12] <varsendagger> ok why doesn't it play cds.   i installed the cd palyer
[08:12] <varsendagger> ahh
[08:12] <mkyb14> carsendagger: the only thing is that you have to get the presets from winamp... just google it and you'll find nthem
[08:12] <zandaa> sethk, ok I got into Ubuntu again thx to a re-install
[08:12] <BockBilbo> varsendagger, i will suggest you beep-media-player
[08:12] <tobi-wan> fredl: it makes mysql a *real* db in my eyes, but i've switched to postgres in the meanwhile :-)
[08:12] <northie> Kuyaedz: the pride in me won't let me reinstall.
[08:12] <stef65> fredl: I got one here... so far it's nice, but i'm just a bit confused how to get the xserver working..
[08:12] <tobi-wan> fredl: especially views and the like were badly needed stuff
[08:12] <northie> Kuyaedz: really, it should be fixable. it works from a live cd. that does not make sense.
[08:13] <Kuyaedz> northie: lol I've been there.  let me look into it.  I'll see what else I can find for you.  Reboots don't affect anything either?
[08:13] <northie> Kuyaedz: thanks. and no, they don't.
[08:13] <northie> Kuyaedz: aplay -l gives: "aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found..."
[08:13] <northie> Kuyaedz: and lspci shows the card.
[08:13] <tobi-wan> btw: i am currently installing (or trying to) anjuta 2.0.1. has anyone tried to do so already?
[08:14] <mkyb14> what is anjunta?
[08:14] <tobi-wan> northie: do you have a /dev/dsp
[08:14] <tobi-wan> mkyb14: an ide for various programming languages
[08:14] <Dido-> Anyboyd knows why you cannot have installed wine, winetools, winesetup at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..
[08:14] <mkyb14> oh
[08:14] <northie> tobi-wan: nope.
[08:14] <fredl> tobi-wan: you like postgres better than mysql then?
[08:14] <tobi-wan> fredl: yup, up to now, definitively. but for small projects, mysql is nice
[08:15] <frej> is anyone able to start epiphany (dapper) ?
[08:15] <tobi-wan> northie: hm.... probably your soundcard-module did not get loaded....
[08:15] <tobi-wan> right now, i am needing a library called gnome-build, but i cannot locate it... any ideas?
[08:15] <northie> tobi-wan: i've switched sound cards a few times in this install, and i know that a fresh install would fix the problem as the live cd gives sound.. but there should be a nicer fix.
[08:15] <emanuelez> hello
[08:16] <tobi-wan> northie: yes... compile the kernel again :-)
[08:16] <northie> tobi-wan: tried modprobing emu10k1 but that didn't do much.
[08:16] <northie> tobi-wan: that sounds nasty.
[08:16] <tobi-wan> northie: well.... you got to load the module... when it got compiled, fine you just have to modprobe it.... if not: not so fine :-)
[08:16] <emanuelez> how do i remove gij without affecting kubuntu-desktop or openoffice2? i need to use the sun java virtual machine
[08:16] <tobi-wan> northie: which soundcard do you have?
[08:17] <tobi-wan> ah.... damn, sorry, gotta go
[08:17] <northie> tobi-wan,  sb live 5.1..
[08:17] <northie> aw.
[08:17] <mkyb14> has anyone used the java "looking glass" in ubuntu??  i remember it from a while back and being pretty neat
[08:18] <advent_linux> emanuelez, dont remove it, do this: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:18] <advent_linux> and choose the sun jvm
[08:18] <eruin> is it possible to hide folders in nautilus?
[08:18] <Stork> how can i make my java executables (in /home/alex/java/jdk1.5.0_06/bin) accessible from anywhere?
[08:18] <eruin> bah, I'll just make it a dotfolder
[08:19] <Dido-> Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..
[08:19] <emanuelez> advent_linux: wow! thank u! that was painless :)
[08:19] <BockBilbo> hello
[08:19] <Stork> anyone?
[08:19] <advent_linux> eruin, im sure you can make a file called .hidden, and just put the names of dirs and folders in it
[08:19] <BockBilbo> can anyone tell me if ftp uses any port appart from 21
[08:19] <BockBilbo> ??
[08:20] <Stork> BockBilbo, check the wiki
[08:20] <Jaymac> it can use any port you set it to, afaik
[08:20] <trappist> BockBilbo: passv mode uses random high ports and the ftp command port is 20
[08:20] <samppa> Hey. What is the easiest way to play video clips that my phone makes? They are ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, 3GPP (H.263/AMR)
[08:20] <advent_linux> Stork, why not just install it globally
[08:20] <Jaymac> on my proxy ftp uses 8080
[08:20] <Stork> advent_linux, how can i do that?
[08:20] <leed> I have just installed Ubuntu how do I install GCC
[08:20] <Kuyaedz> northie: have you taken a look at any of these? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5675
[08:20] <Jaymac> go to synaptic
[08:20] <deltron> !gcc
[08:20] <ubotu> well, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[08:20] <Stork> leed, "sudo apt-get install gcc"
[08:20] <Kuyaedz> leed: try 'build-essential' for all of the compilers
[08:21] <advent_linux> stork, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and go the part about java
[08:21] <BockBilbo> Stork, trappist see i have a problem configuring my routers NATS cause i cann access to my ftp server localy perfectly, but not from the internet
[08:21] <] Kem[> Hi
[08:21] <zandaa> sethk, ok I set up the GAG bootloader on my floppy
[08:21] <adsa> hi
[08:21] <zandaa> sethk "Sector boot not found or invalid"
[08:22] <] Kem[> Anyone else have an SMC Elite Connect Wifi card?
[08:22] <leed> Thank you Stork, I will have to look in to this apt-get thing
[08:22] <adsa> help need to know how to make a network where the server could provide the applications on the other pcs
[08:22] <trappist> BockBilbo: linux router?
[08:22] <zandaa> leed, apt-get is really simple once you've done it a few times
[08:22] <BockBilbo> trappist, nope
[08:22] <ardchoille> gotta love the ubuntuforums.org :)
[08:23] <trappist> BockBilbo: probably not much you can do then.  you can try forwarding port 20 as well, but if it can't do ftp connection tracking you might be stuck.
[08:23] <BockBilbo> the connection is working
[08:23] <eruin> advent_linux, yeah, I'm not sure why I even asked ;)
[08:23] <trappist> BockBilbo: but an ls hangs?
[08:23] <Superbob> ] Kem[, have you checked if you need any firmware
[08:23] <BockBilbo> the problem is that it gets freezen when retreiving the files
[08:23] <trappist> yeah
[08:23] <advent_linux> no worries
[08:23] <Dido-> Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..
[08:24] <] Kem[> well, the network config thing is slow as hell but it sees my SSID in the list
[08:24] <trappist> BockBilbo: your router (or possibly your firewall, if you're using iptables) doesn't know how to track ftp connections
[08:24] <] Kem[> and i turn DHCP option on, click activate and click ok and it wont do crap
[08:24] <BockBilbo> maybe the firewall
[08:24] <trappist> BockBilbo: the workaround is to type 'passv' as soon as you connect
[08:24] <] Kem[> it doesnt work with my SMC card, but my cisco aironet it does that
[08:24] <trappist> BockBilbo: if it's the firewall, modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
[08:24] <tomas_> d
[08:24] <Superbob> ] Kem[, has the network your trying to connect have any security like wpa
[08:24] <] Kem[> Nope
[08:24] <] Kem[> im using it right now on this computer
[08:24] <BockBilbo> trappist, what module is that?
[08:24] <Superbob> ] Kem[,  open wireless conn?
[08:25] <] Kem[> yes
[08:25] <trappist> BockBilbo: the ftp connection tracking module for iptables
[08:25] <] Kem[> i used it before i put ubuntu on the laptop
[08:25] <Dido-> Anyone in here have installed wine successfull ?
[08:25] <BockBilbo> ohh
[08:25] <BockBilbo> see i have this on the iptabls rules: iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
[08:25] <Superbob> ] Kem[, have you tried installing wifi-radar
[08:25] <trappist> BockBilbo: do you have a rule like iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ?
[08:25] <] Kem[> im still learning ubuntu, as far as installing stuff goes, im an ex-BSD/Slackware user ;)
[08:26] <] Kem[> im sure i can use.. synaptic is it ?
[08:26] <] Kem[> to find it
[08:26] <Superbob> ] Kem[, lol slackware user here too "sudo apt-get install wifi-radar"
[08:26] <Superbob> ] Kem[, i believe
[08:26] <BockBilbo> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[08:26] <BockBilbo> ive got that one
[08:27] <trappist> BockBilbo: that rule plus the ftp conntrack module should make this work (unless your router is screwing it up) but often that module needs to be loaded at boot (as in added to /etc/modules)
[08:27] <BockBilbo> yeah
[08:27] <earldude1> I've installed Apache, Php5 & mysql on Breezy.  how do I find out where all of these were installed?  Specifically, where does apache get placed?
[08:27] <] Kem[> btw whats the root password
[08:27] <BockBilbo> perhaps the module works
[08:27] <BockBilbo> :)
[08:27] <BockBilbo> so
[08:27] <BockBilbo> shoud i add that module to /etc/modules
[08:27] <BockBilbo> ?
[08:27] <BockBilbo> *should
[08:27] <trappist> yeah
[08:27] <Superbob> ] Kem[, there is no root unless you enable it
[08:28] <] Kem[> oh
[08:28] <adsa> help pls p
[08:28] <] Kem[> Superbob, wifi-radar not found
[08:28] <Superbob> ] Kem[, ok will check packagename
[08:28] <advent_linux> ] Kem[, or do a sudo -s
[08:28] <BockBilbo> trappist, thanks so much
[08:28] <trappist> np
[08:28] <BockBilbo> it works now
[08:28] <BockBilbo> :)
[08:28] <trappist> sweet
[08:29] <Dido-> please..
[08:29] <Dido-> Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..
[08:30] <Dido-> or Anyone in here have installed wine successfull to help me do it?
[08:30] <Superbob> ] Kem[, if you use "synaptic" you need to enable universe repo to install wifi-radar
[08:30] <] Kem[> im still working on that lol, reading the tut also
[08:30] <frej> is anyone able to start epiphany-browser (dapper) ?
[08:30] <] Kem[> do i need internet on my laptop to do that
[08:30] <Superbob> ] Kem[, good good
[08:31] <iustin> plz someone could tell me where may i find on the net - gnome themes?
[08:32] <iustin> www.gnome-look.org is closed
[08:32] <Superbob> ] Kem[, most likely or "man synaptic"
[08:32] <techrush> there is no azureus package with ubuntu ?
[08:32] <techrush> or for ubuntu rather
[08:32] <Superbob> good isnt it
[08:32] <techrush> can not find it in the multiverse
[08:32] <techrush> or elsewhere
[08:32] <Kuyaedz> techrush: there was a package available but now you need to get it from azureus directly
[08:32] <] Kem[> well crap, be nice if i could get on the net first of all lol
[08:33] <techrush> so i have to compile it bt hand ?
[08:33] <techrush> :(
[08:33] <techrush> bt/by
[08:33] <Superbob> you dont need to compile azureus
[08:34] <jenda> techrush: try easybreezy - http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/easybreezy0.33-alpha.tar.gz , it'll install Azureus for you
[08:34] <navarone> azureus is just a jar right?
[08:34] <] Kem[> jenda what's easybreezy
[08:34] <ToR911> whats azureus anyways?
[08:34] <] Kem[> azureus is a bittorrent client iirc
[08:34] <jenda> ubotu, tell ] keml[ about easybreezy
[08:34] <techrush> yes
[08:34] <techrush> a BT client
[08:34] <ToR911> ah
[08:35] <jenda> ubotu, tell ] Kem[ about easybreezy
[08:35] <] Kem[> !automatix
[08:35] <ubotu> I heard automatix is crap
[08:35] <jenda> ouch...
[08:35] <] Kem[> lol wtf
[08:35] <Seveas> it is :)
[08:35] <jenda> poor aut'x
[08:35] <jenda> But of course it is
[08:35] <] Kem[> tells me its safer than automatix but yet automatix is crap, very vague descriptions eh
[08:36] <varsendagger> what is automatix?
[08:36] <] Kem[> no idea
[08:36] <varsendagger> what does it do
[08:36] <] Kem[> it's 'crap'
[08:36] <active-matrix> hi all everytime i do a internet connection i use sudo pppoeconf how can i make it so i will not do this every time i reboot
[08:36] <Seveas> varsendagger, a script to f* up your machine
[08:36] <navarone> Seveas is it possible...in a relatively simple way to replace nautilus with gnome commander...and not break anything...<s>
[08:36] <varsendagger> really ?
[08:36] <Seveas> navarone, -ENOCLUE
[08:36] <Superbob> lol what the hell is that noobpackage
[08:36] <jenda> ] Kem[: It's a script that installs basic saftware: easybreezy.robotgeek.org (Seveas says it's not stable yet
[08:37] <Seveas> jenda, that's easybreezy - a slightly better alternative
[08:37] <mrkoje> ] Kem[,  I recomment easybreezy also
[08:37] <Dido-> PLease, anyone help me out to make wine installation and  run it
[08:37] <Seveas> I recommend a manual :)
[08:37] <jenda> !easybreezy
[08:37] <mrkoje> ] Kem[,  You might try the easyUbuntu version first though because easybreezy is new and is in alpha
[08:37] <Seveas> mrkoje, easyubuntu and easybreezy are pretty much the same
[08:38] <frej> is anyone able to start epiphany-browser (dapper) ? Tried rebuilding, didn't help
[08:38] <jenda> mrkoje: It's stable - easyubuntu is old and the new easyubuntu isn't out yet
[08:38] <mrkoje> Seveas,  Yes I know except easybreezy does not work and easyubuntu does
[08:39] <Superbob> i thought they merged
[08:39] <jenda> mrkoje: If you found a bug - please tell me or file it in #easyubuntu
[08:39] <jenda> Superbob: +1
[08:39] <Superbob> ding dong
[08:40] <mrkoje> jenda,  Easybreezy screwed my sources up.. did not replace then when it was done. It also did not add support for basic things such as wmv... though I did tell it too
[08:40] <KBlacKBoX> hi all
[08:40] <anatole> re
[08:40] <active-matrix> hello
[08:40] <Seveas> mrkoje, that's exactly the problem with such scripts
[08:40] <jenda> Superbob: They did. EASYUBUNTU (the merged) hasn't yet had a release. EASYBREEZY is now stable and working on x86.
[08:40] <KBlacKBoX> I just need a litle help
[08:40] <mrkoje> jenda,  let me go through what happened and I will post it in #easyubuntu
[08:40] <Seveas> that's why I always recommend a manual instead :)
[08:40] <jenda> mrkoje: not version 0.33, right?
[08:40] <mrkoje> jenda, wait one
[08:40] <anatole> can someone tell me, is the installer's hardware support relevant to the kernel's one which will be installed?
[08:41] <Seveas> anatole, the installed system supports a few more things than the installer
[08:41] <KBlacKBoX> how can I configue a sortcut on my keyboard on my mouse ?
[08:41] <anatole> thanks Seveas
[08:41] <KBlacKBoX> me english is ditry*
[08:41] <KBlacKBoX> my*
[08:41] <KBlacKBoX> lol
[08:42] <KBlacKBoX> shortcut**
[08:42] <mrkoje> jenda,  easybreezy0.33-alpha  that one did not work for me so I ran the EasyUbuntu 2.4beta4 which worked super
[08:42] <Superbob> KBlacKBoX, go to system > preferences> kb shortcuts
[08:42] <adsa> help need to know how to make a network where the server could provide the applications on the other pcs
[08:42] <KBlacKBoX> Superbob I have try but ..
[08:42] <Superbob> ?
[08:42] <mrkoje> adsa,  be more speciic
[08:43] <mrkoje> *specific
[08:43] <KBlacKBoX> as U can see U can't put a shortcut on a prog
[08:43] <mrkoje> !ltsp
[08:43] <ubotu> methinks ltsp is when you get an error where you log in, then get logged out right away, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server in a terminal, then reboot a client and try logging in. Make sure the user trying to log in exists on the server.
[08:43] <mrkoje> lol
[08:43] <Madeye> hi, how to create .deb package from .bz2 source ?
[08:43] <mrkoje> jenda,  sure
[08:43] <Seveas> Madeye, apt-get install maint-guide and read it
[08:44] <Superbob> KBlacKBoX, well that would be program independent
[08:44] <KBlacKBoX> Superbob I want to ad short cut on 3ddesktop
[08:44] <Superbob> KBlacKBoX, ah ok
[08:45] <active-matrix> hi all everytime i do a internet connection i use sudo pppoeconf how can i make it so i will not do this every time i reboot
[08:45] <KBlacKBoX> like midle click of the mouse
[08:45] <KBlacKBoX> or in a kb
[08:45] <Superbob> KBlacKBoX, try dragging it there or right click add launcher
[08:46] <devilz> hi where can i find sources.list
[08:46] <devilz> i mean what should i add
[08:46] <ToR911> kinda suprising the make package is not a default install
[08:46] <jenda> active-matrix: System>Preferences> sessions >startup
[08:46] <Madeye> Seveas, i apted it, but where is the guide now?
[08:46] <Seveas> !tell devilz about sources
[08:47] <devilz> ty
[08:47] <Seveas> Madeye, /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/
[08:47] <devilz> Seveas, can you suggest me what is good to do when you install ubuntu
[08:47] <Superbob> make a coffee
[08:48] <Seveas> that is a good thing indeed
[08:48] <jenda> lol. And enjoy. I can definitely recommend a script that'll do most of what you need for you :)
[08:48] <KBlacKBoX> Superbob I do not understand and I have create a sortcut on up bar*
[08:48] <Seveas> jenda, ....
[08:48] <jenda> hehe
[08:48] <zandaa> how do I make my own GDM?
[08:48] <Superbob> lol
[08:49] <Seveas> zandaa, buy a C book, read it, buy an X reference, read it, start programming
[08:49] <Cur0sk> Hi ppl
[08:49] <linx_> hello i was trin to install vmware and installed in incorrectly is there a command i can use to remove the current installation
[08:49] <Superbob> KBlacKBoX, i thought thats what you wanted
[08:49] <zandaa> Seveas, there's no easy way??? (just modifying the original Ubuntu GDM??)
[08:49] <Cur0sk> anyone knows if it's possible install Ubuntu on a external hard disk (usb load)?
[08:49] <KBlacKBoX> mmmm racourcis clavier ?
[08:49] <KBlacKBoX> ...
[08:49] <Seveas> zandaa, gdm is quite a complex piece of software...
[08:49] <Superbob> Seveas, i though GDM was XML
[08:49] <Seveas> Cur0sk, that's not yet supported
[08:50] <Seveas> Superbob, no, it's pure C
[08:50] <Cur0sk> Seveas, and any other Distro may be able?
[08:50] <odin> how do I change the permissions of /dev/hdb so that it sticks through reboots?
[08:50] <Seveas> how could a login manager ever be written in xml?
[08:50] <Seveas> Cur0sk, no idea
[08:50] <zandaa> Seveas, i was talking about a GDM theme
[08:50] <Dido-> Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..
[08:50] <Dido-> Anybody knows why wine, winetools and winesetup could not be installed at the same time ?? When I select winesetuptk to be installed synapic manager says wine must be removed to continiue..
[08:50] <Superbob> Seveas, i mean customsing the graphical side of it
[08:50] <linx_> hello i was trin to install vmware and installed in incorrectly is there a command i can use to remove the current installation
[08:51] <Seveas> Dido-, winesetuptk is deprecated and should not be used
[08:51] <active-matrix> ok how do i add that pppoecon thing in startup
[08:51] <] Kem[> ok cool i got my mp3s working
[08:51] <KBlacKBoX> I want to have the 3ddesktop when I click on midle button of tha mouse or in alt+ctrl+somtin'...
[08:51] <Seveas> Superbob, get a theme from gnome-look.org, look at its source and start modding
[08:51] <] Kem[> now another thing, what's the best recommended audio cd writing util ?
[08:51] <zandaa> Seveas, gnome-look.org isn't working <_<
[08:51] <Superbob> Seveas, been there done that thats why i thought the theme part of it was xml :)
[08:51] <Seveas> KBlacKBoX, gconf-editor, look at /apps/metacity and find the custom shortcuts section
[08:52] <Seveas> Superbob, may very well be, I have no clue about it
[08:52] <Dido-> Seveas but now when i run wine it says that i dont have installed i completely...
[08:52] <Dido-> it*
[08:52] <KBlacKBoX> Seveas merci ... I try...
[08:52] <zandaa> Superbob, could you help me then?
[08:52] <] Kem[> Superbob any idea what a good cd burning program would be, to burn audio cds
[08:53] <Superbob> zandaa, try looking at some other gdm themes its pretty similar to html
[08:53] <devilz> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[08:53] <Superbob> ] Kem[, gnomebaker
[08:53] <Seveas> devilz, look at the homepage of the thing
[08:53] <nickrud> Dido-, I think you're looking for winecfg, it's installed with wine
[08:53] <zandaa> Superbob, where would I find those in the system?
[08:53] <devilz> i am
[08:53] <Seveas> then look really good
[08:54] <Superbob> zandaa, no idea maybe in /usr
[08:55] <zandaa> superbob, you said "been there done that"
[08:55] <zandaa> so you should know where to find em right?
[08:55] <] Kem[> now if i have an ipod.. do i need some special linux itunes software
[08:55] <Seveas> ] Kem[, gtkpod, banshee
[08:55] <zandaa> ] Kem[, gtkpod
[08:55] <Superbob> yeah i downloaded one off gnome-look, then hacked it then used gnome-theme-manager to install it
[08:55] <] Kem[> sweet thanks.. gunna put Ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop and she has one ;)
[08:56] <zandaa> ] Kem[, nice:) iPods kick ass you know?
[08:56] <adsa> ubuntu has a nice community
[08:56] <zandaa> adsa, yes indeed
[08:56] <] Kem[> roger that
[08:56] <Seveas> zandaa, they do other ass things too (ibuzz.co.uk)
[08:56] <jenda> Ubuntu community? best there is...
[08:56] <zandaa> Seveas <_<
[08:57] <Superbob> ass things?
[08:57] <] Kem[> Seveas hahahahaha
[08:57] <KBlacKBoX> no it's not that*
[08:57] <techrush> i wish gnome look wasnt down
[08:57] <] Kem[> lmao @ the video
[08:57] <techrush> of course as soon as i try a gnome distro
[08:57] <Seveas> art.gnome.org
[08:57] <techrush> gnomelook.org goes down
[08:57] <adsa> ubuntu rules
[08:57] <adsa> but i need help
[08:57] <KBlacKBoX> so I think ... synaptik help me
[08:57] <adsa> LOL
[08:57] <adsa> later you ppl help me
[08:57] <] Kem[> wow that's hilarious
[08:57] <adsa> dinner now
[08:57] <adsa> byebye
[08:58] <Superbob> what a nice broadcast
[08:58] <KBlacKBoX> thanx all **
[08:59] <] Kem[> anyone have verizon DSL
[08:59] <dodeskaden> ?
[09:00] <Superbob> zandaa, found it in /usr/share/gdm/themes
[09:00] <Superbob> bit late but hey
[09:00] <Seveas> 
[09:00] <devilz> Seveas, is there any your sources.list ?
[09:00] <Seveas> devilz, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2325
[09:01] <devilz> i see
[09:01] <devilz> ty
[09:01] <devilz> btw can you just tell me what is hoary and breezy
[09:01] <didier> hello
[09:01] <Seveas> hoary = ubuntu 5.04; breezy = ubuntu 5.10
[09:01] <Superbob> hedgehogs and badgers
[09:01] <] Kem[> haha
[09:01] <Seveas> !badger
[09:01] <theo> Dit is eebn proef. Theo Geef een aantwoord
[09:01] <ubotu> badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom! mushroom! http://www.badgerx3.com
[09:01] <zandaa> superbob, ok, thanks, switching systems now
[09:02] <devilz> i have 5.10
[09:02] <devilz> so i dont use hoary
[09:02] <devilz> ;)
[09:02] <didier> Is there any gnucash user here ?
[09:02] <Seveas> correct
[09:02] <Seveas> !snake
[09:02] <ubotu> Schnaaakkeeeeeee, schnaaaaaaaakkeeee, oh no it's a schnaaaaaaaaaakkeeeeee
[09:02] <devilz> ty
[09:02] <devilz> brb
[09:02] <Superbob> ubotu, youve been had by that dumb website
[09:02] <ubotu> I don't know, Superbob
[09:02] <jenda> lol
[09:03] <varsendagger> i use moneydance it is worth it
[09:04] <IzzyCC> jimh_refurb@comcast.net says:
[09:04] <IzzyCC> i am not able to run the report right now
[09:04] <IzzyCC> erm
[09:04] <IzzyCC> wrong window
[09:04] <didier> varsendagger: Is it free ?
[09:04] <chrisx1> hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?
[09:04] <jojoman02> my ubuntu (latest) keeps freezing when i transfer files (from usb HD (ext) --> ata HD (internal) )
[09:04] <jojoman02> at the same spot on the file too.....
[09:04] <jojoman02> any ideas?
[09:05] <varsendagger> hey where is the link for for getting more than one application to work
[09:05] <varsendagger> didier no but it's only 25 bucks or something
[09:05] <ToR911> i did: <Jason> tor911, install the required GCC version, and export GCC=/path/to/3.4gcc and it will function perfectly fine.
[09:05] <ToR911> but when i press gcc , it still doesn't find it
[09:05] <Superbob> jojoman02, can you transfer other files
[09:05] <varsendagger> for sound
[09:05] <chrisx1> hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?
[09:05] <Seveas> ToR911, try: export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:06] <jojoman02> superbob: yes
[09:06] <varsendagger> more than one aplication for sound to work
[09:06] <ToR911> do i need to also put it in the path or something?
[09:06] <jenda> !source-o-matic
[09:06] <ubotu> jenda: Are you on ritalin?
[09:06] <Superbob> jojoman02, maybe its a corrupt file on your usb disk
[09:06] <jenda> hehe
[09:06] <Seveas> !easysource
[09:06] <ubotu> [easysource]  For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:06] <chrisx1> hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?
[09:07] <jojoman02> superbob: windows can read it just fine... (same file)
[09:07] <didier> varsendagger: Can you make provision and Remember for payement.
[09:07] <jojoman02> it is from ntfs usb external, maybe that can be it?
[09:07] <ToR911> ahh
[09:08] <ToR911> where are the C header files installed for the 3.4 ?
[09:08] <varsendagger> i thinkso
[09:08] <varsendagger> didier,
[09:08] <Superbob> jojoman02, maybe but if the filesystems already loaded into the kernel it shouldnt be a problem
[09:08] <chrisx1> hey i got a problem ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host any ideas?
[09:08] <chrisx1> :@
[09:09] <bob832> anyone know how well ubuntu would run on an 800MHz machine?
[09:09] <Superbob> jojoman02, try turning dma off "sudo hdparm -d 0"
[09:09] <varsendagger> bob832, should run fine
[09:10] <chrisx1> bob832: im on 600mhz
[09:10] <ToR911> where are the C header file that match my running kernel stored at?
[09:10] <chrisx1> i also run it on a 200mhz;)
[09:10] <chrisx1> any1 help please!
[09:10] <mkyb14> is there an ftp folder that i can upload my albums into in gallery2??  instead of doing it over the web?
[09:10] <] Kem[> im gunna install it on my 200MHz laptop
[09:10] <] Kem[> hope it runs ok with 32mb ram lol
[09:10] <Superbob> chrisx1, have you man paged ssh?
[09:10] <chrisx1> no
[09:10] <bob832> alright, thanks, for some reason, i am thinking that it wouldn't run well on something less than a 1Ghz
[09:10] <Superbob> "man ssh"
[09:11] <bob832> *was thinking
[09:11] <] Kem[> 'linux' runs on slow computers really well, just have a decent amount of ram and you'll be fine
[09:11] <_jason> chrisx1, do you ever manage to actually login?
[09:11] <bob832> good to know
[09:11] <bob832> thanks
[09:11] <chrisx1> no
[09:11] <ToR911> where are the C header file that match my running kernel stored at?
[09:11] <chrisx1> i just get that all the time
[09:11] <pdani_> pdani@narny:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[09:11] <pdani_> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[09:11] <triple5> hey, I just got a projector and connected it to the laptop, wonder If I have to restart the machine or if I can just activate it as  a second screen..
[09:11] <triple5> any ideas?
[09:12] <pdani_> but i HAVE nvidia card
[09:12] <_jason> chrisx1, make sure port 22 is set to accept connections
[09:12] <pdani_> tnt2
[09:12] <Paradosso> hi everybody, does someone know where can I find an audacious (media player) .deb package? Thanks
[09:12] <chrisx1> it is:S
[09:12] <pdani_> linux-modules-restricted* installed
[09:12] <pdani_> any idea?
[09:13] <selinium_> Whats the command to reconfigure X?
[09:13] <_jason> chrisx1, are you just trying to do normal password identification or are you using ssh keys?
[09:13] <triple5> okay I will restart...
[09:14] <chrisx1> not sure
[09:14] <chrisx1> was default installation
[09:14] <_jason> chrisx1, look through /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I'm not sure if default is set to allow password identification or not
[09:14] <] Kem[> is anyone else here using Verizon DSL or a Westel USB wifi adapter?
[09:15] <ToR911> where are the C header file that match my running kernel stored at?
[09:16] <Rosette> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Firefox 1.5 on Ubuntu 5.10 :x
[09:16] <_frank> ToR911: do you have the appropriate linux-headers- package installed?
[09:16] <Superbob> ToR911, have you installed kernel-dev packages installed?
[09:17] <jgrieves> Rosette FF 1.5 is not officially supported on 5.10
[09:17] <chrisx1> how do u restart openssh-server ?
[09:17] <ToR911> doubt it
[09:17] <jgrieves> !firefox
[09:17] <ubotu> I don't know, jgrieves
[09:17] <jgrieves> !Firefox
[09:17] <ubotu> jgrieves: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:17] <jgrieves> ...
[09:17] <crimsun> chrisx1: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[09:17] <chrisx1> ty
[09:17] <Kuyaedz> chrisx1: try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[09:18] <chrisx1> ty
[09:18] <iHeartKem> lawl
[09:18] <_frank> ToR911: what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <pdani_> any idea???
[09:19] <ToR911> isntal vmware-tools
[09:19] <ToR911> install even
[09:19] <jojoman02> i looked everywhere for this -- how do i rename a drive (usb stick) -- ( like in windows => 'right click' drive --> properties --> change name )
[09:19] <Superbob> ToR911, yeah you need kernel-development files, if your trying to build vm modules
[09:19] <_frank> ToR911: you need linux-headers-  for your kernel and gcc-3.4  installed
[09:20] <ToR911> yeh already got 3.4
[09:20] <ToR911> ahh isntalled headers
[09:20] <ToR911> working now
[09:21] <_frank> are you installing vmware tools in a guest linux?
[09:21] <ToR911> guest linux?
[09:21] <iHeartKem> he means linux inside of the VM
[09:22] <ToR911> yes
[09:22] <jenda> !firefox
[09:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, jenda
[09:22] <_frank> ToR911: I think that's all you need.  do   export CC=gcc-3.4  before running the installation script
[09:23] <ToR911> nah
[09:23] <jenda> ubotu, firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developped by the Mozilla Foundation.
[09:23] <ubotu> jenda: okay
[09:23] <ToR911> i needed the kernel header files
[09:23] <ToR911> but i compiled, it worked, thanks :)
[09:23] <Chousuke> developped is a typo :/
[09:23] <Chousuke> it has one p only
[09:24] <bolrod> DEVELOPPPPPERS DEVELOPPPPERS DEVELOPPERS .... hehe :)
[09:24] <bolrod> or something
[09:24] <trappist> I fixed the misspelling
[09:24] <bolrod> hrm... looks like the support channel :x
[09:24] <bolrod> :)
[09:24] <soldieruk400> hi all what sound wave do i use to get that little drum sound back when i open windows or the net ?
[09:25] <_jason> dvelopp n. A ballet movement in which one leg is raised to the knee of the supporting leg and fully extended.
[09:26] <zandaa> Superbob, I modified the theme, now how do I install it?
[09:26] <_jason> soldieruk400, gtk-events/activate.wav maybe
[09:27] <soldieruk400> how di i find that file  jason ?
[09:29] <ViViD> what was the release date of breezy?
[09:29] <Kuyaedz> 10.13.05
[09:29] <jenda> ubotu, thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation
[09:29] <ubotu> okay, jenda
[09:29] <b166> !sources
[09:29] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:29] <ViViD> so the next version comes out some time in april?
[09:29] <Kuyaedz> correct
[09:29] <ViViD> cool, thanks
[09:29] <linx_> where can i find my c headers?
[09:29] <josue_m> hello,  apt-get install php4 says couldn't find the package, any idea to fix that ?  the same happens with php5, I just installed ubunto 5.1
[09:30] <contradictoryben> run apt-get update
[09:30] <josue_m> already did that
[09:30] <contradictoryben> you may need to enable additional repositories
[09:30] <Kuyaedz> josue_m: run apt-get update &/or check your sources.list.  See the links above for sources.list entries
[09:31] <josue_m> ok,  I'll check he links, thanks
[09:31] <jenda> !easybreezy
[09:33] <linx_> where can i find my c headers?
[09:33] <trappist> linx_: mostly in /usr/include
[09:33] <stremic> whats are c headers
[09:35] <jenda> ubotu no, easybreezy is a script that automates the installation of many problematic packages such as codecs and the NVidia driver. It is now merged with EasyUbuntu, under that name. See also !easyubuntu, #easyubuntu and https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu.
[09:35] <ubotu> jenda: okay
[09:36] <stremic> who can tell me how i install kde
[09:36] <jenda> !easyubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> jenda: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:36] <trappist> stremic: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <stremic> thanks trappist
[09:38] <chrisx1> How Do I Add A Welcome Message to openssh-server ?
[09:38] <trappist> chrisx1: /etc/motd
[09:39] <chrisx1> is that a file?
[09:39] <trappist> yes
[09:39] <chrisx1> ok
[09:39] <chrisx1> ty
[09:39] <jenda> ubotu, easyubuntu is a very useful script for automation of several installation tasks. It can install many proprietary packages that are otherwise troublesome to obtain, including w32codecs, libdvdcss2 and skype. It is GPL'd and safe. Ask in #easyubuntu, or check out Easybreezy is a script that automates the installation of many problematic packages such as codecs and the NVidia driver. It is now merged with EasyUbuntu, under that name. See a
[09:39] <jenda> lso !easyubuntu, #easyubuntu and https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu
[09:39] <ubotu> jenda: okay
[09:39] <jenda> oops
[09:40] <trappist> chrisx1: and make sure PrintMotd is yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:40] <trappist> jenda: you can do this stuff in /msg
[09:40] <chrisx1> ok
[09:40] <jenda> trappist: OK sorry
[09:40] <linx_> is it necessary to upgrade 686
[09:40] <jenda> linx_: no
[09:41] <chrisx1> How do i add a user
[09:41] <linx_> wise?
[09:41] <chrisx1> with limited use
[09:41] <chrisx1> in ssh
[09:41] <jenda> linx_: But if you have a dualcore proc or heaps of ram - it's good to do so
[09:41] <linx_> naw jus p4 and 512
[09:41] <Grimlord> Im new here. Is it okay to ask questions about video support with Unbuntu here?
[09:41] <mrkoje> Grimlord,  of course
[09:41] <Weasel--> Yes, this is the general ubuntu help channel
[09:42] <Grimlord> great, thank you
[09:42] <b166> !nvidia
[09:42] <hmpedersen> Anyone know where to find amuleweb?
[09:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:42] <mrkoje> Grimlord,  whats your question
[09:42] <ToR911> why is my g++ funky?
[09:42] <jenda> linx_: I have almost the same and I did upgarde to 686 - I see no difference and it was not simple
[09:42] <mrkoje> !beer time
[09:42] <linx_> i did it with synaptec last time and it did its thing
[09:42] <ubotu> mrkoje: Are you on ritalin?
[09:42] <ToR911> i tried using a makefile that uses g++ that worked at my university, and it doesn't work on my freshly installed ubuntu
[09:42] <jenda> lol
[09:42] <mrkoje> lol
[09:42] <Ben`> hi ;)
[09:42] <trappist> ToR911: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:43] <ToR911> i have g++ installed
[09:43] <ToR911> it just gives off alot of errors
[09:43] <trappist> ToR911: what kind of errors
[09:43] <trappist> ToR911: (hint: pastebin)
[09:43] <Grimlord> I have a 8600 inspiron with an ATI Mobility 9600. I downloaded the drivers from ATI and installed everything, but my fgl_glsxgears crashes and regluar glxgears runs so slow it wont register..nay thoughts?
[09:43] <jenda> trappist: I don't think I can teach ubotu through msg
[09:44] <trappist> jenda: in msg just say x is y
[09:44] <linx_> i can't find the kernel c headers >.<
[09:44] <ToR911> how do u copy off vmware? :)
[09:44] <ToR911> linx, install them
[09:44] <trappist> linx_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[09:44] <chrisx1> How Do i Create a limited user from ssh
[09:44] <jenda> trappist: OK got it.
[09:44] <linx_> trappist: where will it be then
[09:45] <trappist> linx_: /usr/src/linux-headers-{version}
[09:45] <deltron> ubotu is a blootbot, right?
[09:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, deltron
[09:45] <mrkoje> !snack
[09:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, mrkoje
[09:45] <linx_> trappist:thx
[09:45] <deltron> lol
[09:45] <deltron> ubotu: blootbot?
[09:45] <ubotu> deltron: Are you smoking crack?
[09:45] <deltron> ubotu: infobot?
[09:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, deltron
[09:45] <deltron> lol
[09:46] <deltron> I used to run an infobot
[09:46] <deltron> years ago
[09:46] <deltron> then it got nice and insecure :P
[09:46] <Oblivion^> i want to set up my soundcard but i don't know which one i have, and it doesn't autodetect. it's some vague on board sound thing, how can i install it?
[09:46] <deltron> it was funny, I named her cindy19f, and would drop her in channels :)
[09:46] <mrkoje> Oblivion: Check out http://www.alsa-project.org
[09:47] <|3lack|ce> hey all
[09:47] <trappist> sure wish ubuntu shipped with alsaconf
[09:47] <Oblivion^> mrkoje: thx
[09:47] <Chousuke> it doesn't?
[09:47] <trappist> no
[09:47] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  Its also best to know what chipset your onboard sound is... you can get the info from the motherboard manufactor
[09:47] <deltron> weird
[09:47] <trappist> Oblivion^: or from lspci
[09:47] <deltron> alsaconf in the universe repos?
[09:48] <Oblivion^> trappist: what is lspci?
[09:48] <mrkoje> ya or that...
[09:48] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  type  lspci in the terminal... look for the sound card
[09:48] <|3lack|ce> just finished installing 5.10. can't get synaptic or any other updater/file manager to come up, even apt.  help please?
[09:48] <Stork> how do i unzip a .zip archive from the command line?
[09:48] <cmatheson> Stork: unzip
[09:48] <deltron> unzip zipfile.zip
[09:48] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  you will get somthing like this:  0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator
[09:48] <Stork> oh
[09:48] <jenda> |3lack|ce: what happens when you try?
[09:48] <Stork> thanks
[09:48] <deltron> :)
[09:49] <Oblivion^> trappist: i don't seem to find any soundcards
[09:49] <|3lack|ce> jenda: I get nothing - no response, no hdd action, nothing.  Tried apt-get from terminal - without sudo it gives 'unknown application'. with sudo it gives nothing as well.
[09:49] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  Then check with your motherboard manufactorer... they will have all the details about your nifty onboard sound
[09:49] <Oblivion^> mrkoje: ok
[09:49] <jenda> |3lack|ce: fresh install?
[09:50] <|3lack|ce> jenda: yes.
[09:50] <jenda> hmm
[09:50] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  what motherboard do you have/
[09:50] <|3lack|ce> yah, tricky one - worse because I'm linux illiterate.   it didnt' much like my cd roms tho.
[09:50] <Oblivion^> mrkoje to be honest i'm not sure
[09:50] <|3lack|ce> might try reinstalling later if we can't find a fix
[09:50] <jenda> |3lack|ce: that's weird
[09:50] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  Well ok... now we know it isn't a built pc... what computer brand is it?
[09:51] <jenda> |3lack|ce: Normal or expert install? What HDD size?
[09:51] <active-matrix> mp4 what mediaplayer do i need to watch mp4 movie files
[09:51] <Oblivion^> mrkoje: ibm
[09:51] <ToR911> whats a good c++ editor?
[09:51] <|3lack|ce> jenda: normal install, 41.1 Gig hdd.
[09:51] <cmatheson> active-matrix: i like mplayer
[09:51] <cmatheson> ToR911: vim
[09:51] <paulproteus|lapt> |3lack|ce: Can you paste a conversation between you and apt-get?
[09:51] <paulproteus|lapt> Put it in a pastebin, and give us the URL.
[09:51] <jenda> |3lack|ce: How big was your / partition?
[09:51] <paulproteus|lapt> I want to see what you typed on the terminal, and how it responded.
[09:51] <mrkoje> Oblivion^,  My best advice is to go to their website and look for your computer model. See if you can get any specs on that computer. When you do... look for the onboard sound information. They have to have the information.
[09:51] <|3lack|ce> dunno how paulproteus, but could if ya walked me through it.
[09:51] <Oblivion^> mrkoje: thx
[09:52] <paulproteus|lapt> |3lack|ce: Sure, okay.  try "sudo apt-get update"
[09:52] <|3lack|ce> jenda - root partition is as big as partition manager wanted it - all files on one file system -
[09:52] <jenda> OK
[09:52] <ElitePete> i need some help with firefox and playing videos?
[09:52] <|3lack|ce> paulproteus - could we do this in #flood instead? it'd be easier.
[09:52] <paulproteus|lapt> |3lack|ce: yes.
[09:52] <|3lack|ce> k. sec. jenda you get that? going to #flood
[09:53] <jenda> |3lack|ce: got it
[09:53] <Andre4s> I have by mistake fuckedup my /etc/hosts file. Now I can't login as root. Anything to do other then reinstall?
[09:53] <mrkoje> ElitePete,  whats your problem?
[09:53] <stremic> who can tell me how i install kde
[09:53] <ElitePete> i cant seem to play videos using firefox, mplayer comes up downloads the video but then nothing plays?
[09:53] <active-matrix> how do i start bittorent
[09:53] <cmatheson> Andre4s: why would your /etc/hosts file stop you from being able to log in as root
[09:54] <mrkoje> !Tell
[09:54] <cmatheson> active-matrix: btdownloadcurses foo.torrent
[09:54] <iveqy> hi, I've got a dvd player, but I have no /dev/dvd, how to add it manually?
[09:54] <Andre4s> cmatheson, don't ask me
[09:54] <DjLinX> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[09:54] <DjLinX>  while trin to config vmwares anyone know how to fix?
[09:54] <mrkoje> tell ElitePete about RestrictedFormats
[09:54] <Andre4s> ubuntu shit
[09:54] <cmatheson> Andre4s: i don't think that's your problem
[09:54] <ElitePete> mrjoke i have all the codecs insalled.
[09:54] <cmatheson> Andre4s: but just boot off the live-cd or something to fix it
[09:55] <|3lack|ce> grrr. wont' let me post to #flood :(
[09:55] <active-matrix> where can i download movies
[09:55] <jenda> iveqy: you need to create a symlink
[09:55] <mrkoje> ElitePete,  do you have the MediaConnectivityPlugin?
[09:55] <active-matrix> is it on bittorent
[09:55] <mrkoje> for firefox?
[09:55] <foampeace> hi
[09:55] <ElitePete> mrkoje, i don't know is it in apt-get ?
[09:55] <iveqy> jenda: yes but to what?
[09:55] <mrkoje> uh no... I don't think so... try the mozilla webpage
[09:55] <mrkoje> its a FireFox plugin... you should be able to search for it on the website'
[09:56] <jenda> iveqy: probably /dev/cdrom or cdrom0, 1 etc.
[09:56] <foampeace> im having trouble getting my sound to work for the game play in jagged alliance 2
[09:56] <active-matrix> where can i download movies
[09:56] <foampeace> anyone had this problem?
[09:56] <redondos> Are vanilla sources always unavailable from the official repos?
[09:56] <jenda> |3lack|ce: join #|3lack|ce
[09:56] <DjLinX> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.  while trin to config vmwares anyone know how to fix?
[09:56] <Mailman> Can anyone help me get cool'n'quiet working please (it works under windows btw)?
[09:56] <jenda> paulproteus: join #|3lack|ce please
[09:56] <active-matrix> where can i download movies
[09:57] <iveqy> jenda: I only have /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrw and both points to my cdrw
[09:57] <Grimlord> mrkoje: Any advice on laptop ATI driver setup? The system operates but my OGL is hosed
[09:57] <redondos> DjLinX: cd /usr/src ; rm linux ; ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux
[09:57] <jenda> iveqy: then point it to cdrw - if that's the dvd player
[09:57] <cmatheson> iveqy: it's going to be /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd probably
[09:57] <jenda> iveqy: ah - cmatheson is right
[09:57] <ToR911> whats a good graphical c++ editor (debugger will be nice) for linux?
[09:57] <vniki> hi all
[09:57] <ElitePete> k mrkjoje it's installed
[09:58] <DjLinX> linx@ubuntu:/usr/src$ sudo cd /usr/src ; rm linux ; ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux
[09:58] <DjLinX> sudo: cd: command not found
[09:58] <DjLinX> rm: cannot remove `linux': No such file or directory
[09:58] <DjLinX> ln: creating symbolic link `linux' to `linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386': Permission denied
[09:58] <redondos> ToR911: kdevelop?
[09:58] <iveqy> ToR911: gvim?
[09:58] <iveqy> jenda: :)
[09:58] <iveqy> cmatheson: thx
[09:58] <ToR911> ur guys are Asking me or telling me?
[09:58] <redondos> DjLinX: put sudo before every command
[09:58] <redondos> DjLinX: or just `sudo -s`, issue all commands, then `exit`
[09:59] <redondos> ToR911: I'm asking if you've tried it.
[09:59] <ElitePete> mrkoje, do you know how i get it to automatically repeat?
[09:59] <jenda> redondos: cd does'nt need sudo
[09:59] <DjLinX> redondos now it says no such dir
[09:59] <redondos> jenda: for the sake of simplicity.
[09:59] <cmatheson> DJ_Mirage: type 'pwd'
[09:59] <stremic> i tried out the comand sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop for installing kde but i got an error message
[10:00] <jenda> redondos: k
[10:00] <aleahey> stremic: what was the error?
[10:00] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm having trouble mounting a dvd manually. # mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide -->  mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[10:00] <ToR911> redonos: just looking for a c++ editor, with  compiler&debugger ability for linux
[10:00] <Kimppa> any ideas?
[10:00] <ToR911> looking for advice
[10:00] <cmatheson> stremic: maybe you should try 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' instead
[10:00] <spencerk> is there a terminal command for 'show desktop'?
[10:00] <derek[] > If you're using xchat 2.4.1 or higher and have white bg with black text theme, please may I have your colors.conf from ~/.xchat2 ?
[10:00] <aleahey> hah trueeee cmatheson
[10:00] <myke> hello everyone
[10:00] <cmatheson> spencerk: that would depend on your window-manager... chances are unless you're using wmii or something there isn't
[10:00] <iveqy> cmatheson: I seem to have more problems. The cdrw is on /dev/hdd, so the dvd should be on /dev/hdc but I have no dev/hdc
[10:01] <stremic> it does not known the kubuntu-desktop-command i think
[10:01] <redondos> ToR911: You're looking for an IDE. Try Anjuta.
[10:01] <spencerk> cmatheson, shoot, im just using x
[10:01] <cmatheson> iveqy: hmm, is it on your primary or secondary ide cable? and is it the master or slave?
[10:01] <cmatheson> spencerk: you can't just be using x... (well you could be... but i promise you're not)
[10:01] <active-matrix> how do i install bittorent
[10:02] <spencerk> cmatheson, gnome
[10:02] <cmatheson> spencerk: yeah afaik there is no way to do that
[10:02] <vr^238> can anyone recommend anything more versatile than gnome-terminal for running irssi? i don't like how i can't use alt+left/right in gnome-terminal
[10:02] <cmatheson> vr^238: i really like aterm
[10:02] <redondos> active-matrix: there are many bittorrent clients out there. find one that you like, then install it using your favorite package manager. (synaptic, for example)
[10:02] <aleahey> active-matrix: sudo apt-cache search torrent
[10:02] <ElitePete> mrkoje
[10:02] <Kyral> vr^238: Xterm
[10:02] <aleahey> pick a client
[10:02] <ToR911> redon, excuse my linux newbiety but "IDE" ?
[10:02] <ElitePete> how do i install firefox 1.07, i have 1.5 but it doesn't work properly
[10:02] <redondos> active-matrix: some examples are ktorrent, azureus, bitcomet
[10:02] <fredl> I have an Intel HDA soundcard and would like it to use 5 speakers, anybody know how to do that in Ubuntu?
[10:02] <vr^238> cmatheson: thanks, i'll try.
[10:02] <cmatheson> Elektrochelovek: apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:02] <vr^238> Kyral: how do you edit the colors in xterm ?
[10:02] <redondos> ToR911: IDE: Integrated Development Environment
[10:02] <active-matrix> where are they on synapcit package manager
[10:02] <Kyral> vr^238: like?
[10:02] <spencerk> cmatheson, is there a way to change the icons for the 'add to panel' items?
[10:02] <vr^238> Kyral: or any other prefs for that matter
[10:03] <aleahey> active-matrix: search for em
[10:03] <aleahey> just search titles and descriptions for "torrent"
[10:03] <iveqy> cmatheson: it's on my secondary cable, and it's master. The fully working cdrw is at the same cable and is slave
[10:03] <redondos> vr^238: google for "xresources+xterm+color"
[10:03] <vr^238> Kyral: the color scheme of the terminal, ya know?
[10:03] <spencerk> for some reason the 'show desktop' one doesnt have an icon
[10:03] <cmatheson> vr^238: you can do it from the command-line -fg gray -bg black or edit your .Xresources
[10:03] <Kyral> vr^238: Terminal Prefs?
[10:03] <zandaa> does anyone know how to redirect like /dev/sequencer to /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p???
[10:03] <cmatheson> iveqy: hmm, so it *should* be /dev/hdc ... you don't have  that device though?
[10:03] <vr^238> Kyral: yes, nevermind though, cmatheson answered. thanks
[10:03] <active-matrix> i am on synapcit packetmanager where are those files
[10:03] <ToR911> km ty
[10:03] <ToR911> k, ty
[10:04] <aleahey> zandaa: use ln i think, do man ln
[10:04] <ElitePete> how do i configure mplayer for firefox?
[10:04] <cmatheson> zandaa: yeah... probably ln -sf is what you're looking for
[10:04] <iveqy> cmatheson: no I do't.  is it possible that I miss some drivers for the kernel?
[10:04] <HymnToLife> zandaa > ln -s /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p /dev/sequencer
[10:04] <_jason> ElitePete, once you have mplayer, install mplayerplug-in
[10:04] <cmatheson> ElitePete: you'll need the mplayerplug-in (find it at sourceforge)
[10:04] <_jason> cmatheson, ElitePete mplayerplug-in is in the repos
[10:04] <ElitePete> i have mplayer plug installed for firefox, i just need to know how to set options etc?
[10:05] <cmatheson> _jason: yeah... but that version really sucks
[10:05] <zandaa> hymntolife, thanks
[10:05] <Grimlord> ne1 run on a dell laptop with ATI video?
[10:05] <zandaa> HymnToLife, now I got sound on SuperTux:P
[10:05] <dragoon> Grimlord: www.ati.com
[10:05] <cmatheson> iveqy: try 'dmesg | grep hd' and see if your dvd-drive is listed
[10:05] <HymnToLife> zandaa > you're welcome :)
[10:05] <dragoon> Grimlord: download the drivers and install them
[10:06] <Oblivion^> if i pop in a pci sound card that is relatively new, should it be automatically detected?
[10:06] <Grimlord> I have...
[10:06] <aleahey> Grimlord: are you stuck on 640x480?
[10:06] <fredl> what does it mean if mplayers says: alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.006 msecs. resetting stream
[10:06] <iveqy> cmatheson: it isn't....
[10:06] <Kuyaedz> oblivion: it should, yes.  I recently added a Sb Live 5.1 card (old) and it was detected
[10:06] <_jason> fredl, do you use gnome with esd?
[10:06] <Grimlord> No, all basic functions are fine, but my OpenGL is hosed
[10:06] <Oblivion^> Kuyaedz: k
[10:06] <fredl> jason - yeah
[10:06] <cmatheson> iveqy: hmm, that's really weird.  did it work w/ other distros/windoze/etc? does it show up in the bios listing of devices when your computer starts?
[10:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell fredl about mplayer
[10:07] <_jason> fredl, you need to tell mplayer to use esd
[10:07] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how to configure mplay plugin for firefox?
[10:07] <_jason> ElitePete, what do you want to configure?
[10:07] <fredl> ok thanks
[10:07] <ElitePete> i want to configure if the video repeats or not
[10:07] <iveqy> cmatheson: it worked before when I did the real installation of ubuntu, now I've got the server installation...
[10:08] <cmatheson> iveqy: hmm, i wouldn't think that should matter though.  it is ide right?  i can't think of any additional modules you'd need to install or anything...
[10:08] <iveqy> cmatheson: yes it is rigth. well than k you for your help, I will try to reboot, otherwise it's gonna be a live -cd tonight :)
[10:09] <cmatheson> iveqy: hehe, ok
[10:10] <ElitePete> is their anyway to change what OpenSSH server for ubuntu says when users login ?
[10:10] <Grimlord> how do I tell if I have POSIX enabled?
[10:11] <sethk> ElitePete, with source code, you can change anything.  I believe you can change it without mucking with the source, but I'd have to check.
[10:11] <trappist> ElitePete: /etc/motd
[10:11] <Stork> how can i make my java program into a daemon?
[10:11] <_jason> ElitePete, google seems to have a lot of hits for "ssh welcome message" but I haven't done it myself
[10:11] <trappist> you just edit /etc/motd
[10:12] <trappist> and PrintMotd yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[10:12] <dirkson> Under which circumstances would I actually -need- LVM in my rc*.d files?
[10:12] <ElitePete> /etc/motd
[10:12] <ElitePete> is that a shell cmd?
[10:12] <aztek> anyone know of a good utility that will scan and list available wireless networks??
[10:12] <trappist> it's a file you edit
[10:12] <zandaa> Elitepete, it's a file
[10:12] <trappist> aztek: kismet
[10:12] <ElitePete> i cant' seem to get to it
[10:13] <zandaa> elitepete, open up a terminal and type: "sudo gedit /etc/motd"
[10:13] <ElitePete> ahh ty zandaa
[10:13] <zandaa> np
[10:13] <techrush> what are the specific reason ubuntu doesnt support mp3s and flash "out of the box" ?
[10:13] <DjLinX> what dir is the kernel in on ubuntu
[10:13] <Oblivion^> if i try to start alsamixer it says function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory, what can i do about that?
[10:13] <zandaa> techrush, copyright, legality issues
[10:13] <harfooz> hi all -- I'm having a real headache getting my fresh Breezy install's CPAN to work. Is someone available that could help this newbie troubleshoot?
[10:13] <_jason> techrush, they aren't free
[10:14] <techrush> some distros DO include them though
[10:14] <techrush> are they going to be sued ?
[10:14] <harfooz> My symptoms are: Can't test without successful make.
[10:14] <harfooz> and I have build-essential installed.
[10:14] <_jason> techrush, free in both senses of the word
[10:14] <tOta> hi ppl
[10:14] <tOta> i need help
[10:14] <dirkson> Techrush: Well, if you're talking about 64 bit and flash, it's at least partially because Macromeia is dumb and refuses to stay with current hardware.
[10:14] <zandaa> t0ta, what you need help with?
[10:15] <tOta> problems with using dvd/rw
[10:15] <techrush> no im not talking about 64 bit
[10:15] <tOta> my friend borowed me a dvd/ew
[10:15] <techrush> just the distro i came from before ubuntu all that worked out of the box
[10:15] <techrush> so i was just cruious
[10:15] <tOta> my friend borowed me a dvd/rw
[10:15] <zandaa> t0ta, it's a copied DVD? (movie?
[10:15] <_jason> ubotu, tell techrush about restricted
[10:15] <chrisx1> Where Are The Config Files For Apache Located?
[10:15] <trappist> harfooz: the make is failing before you get that message
[10:15] <tOta> it is a data dwd
[10:15] <tOta> it is a data dvd
[10:15] <dirkson> Techrush: Mostly, I think it's just an ideaology thing. They don't want to put restrictive liscenses in with the default distro so that you can do WHATEVER you want with the default distro. Doesn't make a lot of difference to most people, but I assume it does to someone... somewhere...
[10:15] <_jason> techrush, they have a blurb at the top explaining the situation iirc at that link ubotu sent you
[10:15] <zandaa> t0ta, do you have a DVD drive in your computer?
[10:15] <HymnToLife> chrisx1 > $HOME/.apache ?
[10:16] <tOta> i had a one
[10:16] <techrush> i understand how to set it up
[10:16] <techrush> and the blurb is kinda vague i have looked at it
[10:16] <chrisx1> HymnToLife: nope
[10:16] <tOta> and now i installed a dvd/rw
[10:16] <trappist> techrush: the licences for the flash plugin and the mp3 codec forbid redistribution
[10:16] <techrush> was just curious what the deepr underlying reasons were
[10:16] <Stork> how can i make my java program run as a daemon?
[10:16] <jenda> tOta: data dvd's should be working
[10:16] <DjLinX> The path "/usr/src" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain
[10:16] <DjLinX> the file "linux/version.h" as expected.  This can happen if the kernel has neverbeen built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel
[10:16] <DjLinX> directory.  In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.
[10:16] <DjLinX>  can someone tell me how to fix
[10:16] <tOta> and its saying "special device hdc not exist"
[10:16] <techrush> so that means my old distro is breaking the law
[10:16] <Seveas> Stork, that depends completely on the program
[10:16] <tomodachi> directory. In any other graphic clients
[10:16] <tOta> ???
[10:16] <tomodachi> can someone plz paste the content of fstab to like this giblet chap.
[10:16] <trappist> Stork: try in #java
[10:16] <tomodachi> The path for ld
[10:16] <tomodachi> data dvd's should be doing that you can't be bothered to find packages there rather than having to switch between the two at runtime, then (since seb implemented that on the wiki>
[10:16] <tomodachi> the file too.....
[10:16] <harfooz> trappist, is there something in particular that I should be looking for that can help? (I simply don't know what to do at this point.)
[10:16] <dirkson> Say- Does anyone know under which circumstances would I actually -need- LVM in my rc*.d files?
[10:16] <tomodachi> that depends on how you are blocking ident and dalnet still lets you on? yes, it can.. but it will automaticly update when you just need to be displayed.
[10:16] <tomodachi> and its no worse than usual
[10:17] <tomodachi> so that apt can install many proprietary packages that can go to #gaygeeks
[10:17] <chrisx1> Where Are The Config Files For Apache Located?
[10:17] <_jason> ubotu, tell tomodachi about enter
[10:17] <trappist> harfooz: an error message with a hint about what went wrong
[10:17] <steve_laptop> hello everyone
[10:17] <tomodachi> is there any other icons you guys have been
[10:17] <tomodachi> Say- Does anyone have verizon DSL or a Westel USB wifi adapter?
[10:17] <tomodachi> Where Are the C header files installed for the line you put ".com"
[10:17] <tOta> so could i took with someone on private you guys are too fast :D
[10:17] <steve_laptop> WOW sony's a bitch!!!
[10:17] <trappist> harfooz: the vast majority of cpan modules are packaged - you should try apt-get first.
[10:17] <zandaa> steve_laptop, what you mean?
[10:17] <chrisx1> where is httpd.conf located?
[10:17] <aleahey> tOta: whats your question?
[10:17] <aleahey> ill try to help
[10:17] <steve_laptop> ? how do I relooad grub with out re installing
[10:17] <aleahey> ./msg meh
[10:18] <Seveas> tOta, there were some flooders... just ask in here
[10:18] <Seveas> !grub
[10:18] <ubotu> from memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:18] <HymnToLife> chrisx1 > have  you tried Places > Search for files ?
[10:18] <chrisx1> on ssh ?
[10:18] <Grimlord> anyone here who can help me with Posix?
[10:18] <chrisx1> its a lil hard to click(Y)
[10:18] <Seveas> chrisx1, nowhere, it's /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:18] <HymnToLife> indeed :p
[10:18] <trappist> chrisx1: ssh doesn't have an httpd.conf
[10:18] <chrisx1> i aint got apache2 ?
[10:18] <Seveas> !tell Grimlord about anyone
[10:18] <aleahey> then its /etc/apache/apache.conf
[10:18] <trappist> chrisx1: then try /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[10:18] <chrisx1> l
[10:18] <chrisx1> k
[10:19] <aleahey> trappist: i think httpd.conf is blank
[10:19] <aleahey> in newer vers
[10:19] <_jason> chrisx1, you can use the 'locate' command to search for files easily
[10:19] <harfooz> trappist, I'm going to post output to pastebin.
[10:19] <steve_laptop> zandaa, geting fn geys working, mouse pad, and the Brightness settings I have yet to get working. This is my first sony laptop VGN-S460
[10:19] <chrisx1> ty
[10:20] <zandaa> steve_laptop, ah ok <_< I don't know all that much about laptops, sry
[10:20] <tOta> seveas pls look for a new open window
[10:20] <harfooz> trappist, http://pastebin.com/461433
[10:20] <tOta> im trying to get help from you on private
[10:21] <Seveas> tOta, I don't give help in private
[10:21] <steve_laptop> zandaa, Other then the learning part of it, it rocks!!
[10:21] <zandaa> ah ok :)
[10:21] <Seveas> especially if you don't ask before invading a private window
[10:21] <tOta> seveas who does :D
[10:21] <harfooz> trappist, hey thanks for the heads-up about it being available via apt-get!!
[10:21] <Murrlin> hi all. running xfce, my mixer settings zero out. what do I check?>
[10:21] <harfooz> trappist, that worked fine for me!
[10:21] <tOta> i asked before but didnt got a answer
[10:21] <tOta> ;)
[10:21] <lucasvo> daniels: ping
[10:21] <aleahey> tOta i said id try to help you
[10:22] <tOta> ok i im goona ask again :D
[10:22] <steve_laptop> ok how to I reset up the boot loader with out reloading?
[10:22] <Seveas> lucasvo, daniels isn't in here
[10:22] <harfooz> trappist, apt-get install libwww-perl did the trick!
[10:22] <tOta> i have problems with mounting, reading dvd/rw
[10:22] <Jared> Is there a way to remove a directory regardless if it is empty or not?
[10:22] <harfooz> I was able to find it by doing apt-cache search lwp
[10:22] <trappist> harfooz: awesome
[10:22] <Seveas> Jared, rm -r
[10:22] <aleahey> Jared: rm -r
[10:22] <Techie_dude> thanks
[10:22] <harfooz> trappist, thanks again! gotta get back to work now!
[10:22] <tOta> when i use command sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[10:22] <tOta> its says: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[10:23] <zandaa> hm...
[10:23] <lucasvo> Seveas: why, where is he?
[10:23] <aleahey> pastebin the contents of your /etc/fstab
[10:23] <zandaa> monkey-bubble's sound doesn't work
[10:23] <tOta> i look in disks and i saw 1 extra drive
[10:23] <b166> whats the command to install a .run ?
[10:24] <trappist> sh filename.run
[10:24] <tOta> o yes im getting help....
[10:24] <Davey> chmod +x *.run
[10:24] <Davey> ./*.run
[10:24] <tOta> from no one
[10:24] <Grimlord> How can I tell if I have Posix loaded or not?
[10:24] <Davey> your computer boots?
[10:25] <Kyral> Posix is...
[10:25] <trappist> Grimlord: posix is a set of standards.  it's not something you have loaded or not.
[10:25] <HymnToLife> !posix
[10:25] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Syntax error in line 1
[10:25] <Grimlord> ok, thank you
[10:25] <tOta> so now my dvd/rw cant eject
[10:26] <tOta> this is nice
[10:26] <ElitePete> t0ta have you tried right clicking it and hittign eject?
[10:26] <Superbob> type "eject cdrom2 in terminal
[10:26] <Superbob> * "eject cdrom"
[10:26] <tOta> nop
[10:26] <trappist> it won't eject if it's mounted
[10:27] <zandaa> superbob, how I close the tray from terminal?
[10:27] <tOta> man this sucks big time
[10:27] <Superbob> zandaa, dont think you can
[10:27] <bulio|lap> ubuntu 5.10 was giving me validation problems about packages during install
[10:28] <tOta> hi bulio neowin mod :D
[10:28] <aleahey> is it a laptop?
[10:28] <ardchoille> when I type crontab -e, nano is the default editor for it. How do I make vi the permanent default editor for crontab -e ?
[10:28] <bulio|lap> can I just re-install 4.10, and upgrade to 5.10?
[10:28] <aleahey> try doing the eject command again
[10:28] <cyphase> where can you find a history of a users logins?
[10:28] <bulio|lap> hi tOta :P
[10:28] <bulio|lap> is it possible?
[10:28] <trappist> cyphase: lastlog
[10:28] <tOta> so how is ubuntu running for you
[10:28] <bulio|lap> I'm re-installing 4.10
[10:28] <trappist> cyphase: also /var/log/auth.log
[10:28] <bulio|lap> 5.10 install was giving me problems
[10:28] <tOta> i cant open dvd data disk and cant mount/unmount
[10:28] <tOta> stupipd
[10:28] <bulio|lap> can I upgrade to 5.10 from 4.10?
[10:29] <tOta> i think you cant
[10:29] <tOta> but whay do you want to that
[10:29] <bulio|lap> so I have to re-download it?
[10:29] <bulio|lap> 5.10
[10:29] <tOta> but 5.10 is better!! :D
[10:30] <tOta> if you think that 4.10 would be faster, i think that 5.10 is faste
[10:30] <tOta> if you think that 4.10 would be faster, i think that 5.10 is faster
[10:30] <aleahey> hes saying he wants to install 4.10
[10:30] <aleahey> and upgrade
[10:30] <aleahey> to 5.10
[10:30] <tOta> its easier to download a 5.10
[10:30] <tOta> imo
[10:30] <steve_laptop> whats he installing it on?
[10:30] <aleahey> not if he already got package problems
[10:30] <aleahey> probably funky cd
[10:31] <tOta> maybe that
[10:31] <topyli> can you stop the gnome 2.12 task list from flashing the windows with new events?
[10:31] <tOta> can you use a dvd on your linux?? no you cant :p
[10:31] <chrisx1> How Do You Restart Apache1?
[10:31] <aleahey> sure you can
[10:31] <chrisx1> *apache2
[10:31] <aleahey> i do
[10:31] <aleahey> christel: sudo apache2ctl restart
[10:31] <tOta> hehe i cant so fck it
[10:32] <aleahey> or stop, or start
[10:32] <topyli> i.e. when i open a web link and firefox opens it in a new tab, i don't want to see the flashing taskbar all day
[10:32] <chrisx1> ty
[10:32] <zandaa> hey people, when opening the game monkey-bubble, I can't get any sound out of it... while ogg files are normally supported
[10:32] <CarlosC> hello
[10:32] <Mozo> I get this error compiling the NVidia Driver for Linux: error: asm/linkage.h: no surch file or directory
[10:32] <Mozo> can any help me? :)
[10:32] <CarlosC> HELLO... i have a QUESTION
[10:32] <aleahey> no way
[10:32] <aleahey> :p
[10:33] <Kyral> Mozo: Its in the headers file for your kernel
[10:33] <tOta> lol
[10:33] <Kyral> CarlosC: no caps please
[10:33] <Superbob> tOta, have you checked ur fstab?
[10:33] <Mozo> Kyral, I have the headers installed ..
[10:33] <topyli> CarlosC: great. ask away, but please don't shout
[10:33] <tOta> and its says hd6
[10:33] <CarlosC> sorry; just for you people to know Im there
[10:33] <tOta> and hdc
[10:33] <trappist> CarlosC: unnecessary
[10:34] <CarlosC> why does the web browser version of msn doesn't work ?
[10:34] <LethalSword> hi
[10:34] <zandaa> CarlosC, do you have enabled popups to load from that website?
[10:34] <cryogen12> has ne1 got a sli system to work cant even install
[10:34] <tOta> i have hda1 linux install, hda6 swap partition, hdc dvd and hda5 ntfs
[10:34] <CarlosC> oh; good question. Thanks
[10:34] <LethalSword> i just installed the firefox but it wont run does anybody know how to help me?
[10:35] <zandaa> CarlosC, that sometimes could help:P
[10:35] <tOta> i have hda1 linux install, hda6 swap partition, hdc dvd and hda5 ntfs
[10:35] <_jason> LethalSword, what do you mean you jsut isntalled it?  it should have been installed by default.  Did you do a server install?
[10:35] <LethalSword> no i installed the new one
[10:35] <LethalSword> 1.5
[10:35] <Mozo> Kyral, I checked in /usr/src/linux/include/asm and found "linkage.h"
[10:35] <tOta> man its saying that my dvdrw doesnt exist
[10:36] <Kyral> Mozo: I have the same problem
[10:36] <Kyral> Mozo: sometimes NVidia's package is a bitch about it
[10:36] <CarlosC> thaks Zandaa
[10:36] <Mozo> Kyral, pootz =(
[10:36] <zandaa> CarlosC, it works now?
[10:37] <LethalSword> the firefox-bin wont run :S
[10:37] <LaserLine> Hello all, I have a computer science question... anyone willing to answer?
[10:37] <Kyral> Mozo: the NVidia-GLX package is quite sufficient
[10:37] <LaserLine> (it's cross platform)
[10:37] <Seveas> !tell LaserLine about anyone
[10:37] <Mozo> Kyral, not for me :/
[10:37] <Kyral> Mozo: Why not?
[10:37] <Mozo> Kyral, i can't play Quake with this driver
[10:37] <Mozo> Kyral, work to slowly
[10:37] <Kyral> Mozo: Is it a Legacy card?
[10:37] <Mozo> legacy = generic ?
[10:38] <Superbob> tOta, what happens when you type "ls /dev/dvd*"
[10:38] <Mozo> (sorry :P)
[10:38] <Kyral> Legacy == OLD
[10:38] <Mozo>  oh
[10:38] <LaserLine> Seveas I guess you'd like to answer :D
[10:38] <Mozo> :P
[10:38] <mrkoje> tOta,  maybe its right... it doesn't exist?
[10:38] <Seveas> LaserLine, just ask
[10:38] <Mozo> it I unkow
[10:38] <Seveas> and if it's off-topic, come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:38] <Mozo> all that I know is that run to slowly Quake 1 with this driver
[10:38] <Kyral> Mozo: what chipset?
[10:39] <LaserLine> Java is a cross platform programing language, which means same code and sytax will run on every OS that as the Java virtual environment.
[10:39] <Mozo> Kyral, Nvidia GeForce2 MX 400
[10:39] <luc2> Hi. I added kde 3.5 stable repository for kubuntu in my breezy but it complains about gpg signature. How can i resolve this?
[10:39] <tOta> you says: /dev/dvd
[10:39] <tOta> just says in terminal: /dev/dvd
[10:39] <Kyral> Mozo you may want to try nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:39] <tOta> so what that means
[10:39] <LaserLine> If SUN can make a JVM, why not make a Cross Platform compiler, that will be able to compile same source for diffrent OS.
[10:39] <bulio|lap> so re-download 5.10?
[10:39] <trappist> tOta: ls -l /dev/dvd
[10:40] <Superbob> tOta, and "ls /media/*"
[10:40] <Seveas> LaserLine, because different platforms have differen binary formats
[10:40] <bulio|lap> hmm
[10:40] <Mozo> Kyral, can run this driver with more performance ?
[10:40] <tOta>  root root 3 2005-12-12 21:43 /dev/dvd -> hdd
[10:40] <Seveas> the java binaries are the same everywhere, but need a runtime 'interpreter'
[10:40] <LaserLine> Seveas, that's what I mean, a compiler that's cross platform.
[10:40] <LethalSword> hello can anyone help me?
[10:40] <Seveas> LaserLine, impossible
[10:40] <Kyral> Mozo: If the GeForce2 MX 400 is Legacy (and i think it is...not sure) then yes it should
[10:40] <tOta> and when i type ls /media/ i get : cdrom  cdrom0  windows
[10:41] <tOta> so
[10:41] <LaserLine> Seveas, JVM takes the source and makes it work on unix, windows, etc... - it's the same source, but every flavour of JVM is diffrent. Wh not make it a compiler?
[10:41] <Kyral> LaserLine: GNU is...
[10:41] <Superbob> tOta, any files listed under the cdrom sections?
[10:41] <trappist> LaserLine: you can cross-compile with gcc if your source is cross-platform-compatible, which is possible but rare
[10:41] <Mozo> Kyral, hmm
[10:41] <zandaa> anyone know what kinda device Monkey-bubble uses for sound output?
[10:41] <yo2lux> hi , i have a problem with /etc/fstab and i have a backup.. but ubuntu not allow to overwrite the file, what need to do? any idea?
[10:41] <bulio|lap> 5.10 breezy badger?
[10:41] <bolrod> java compiles part of java codes
[10:41] <LaserLine> What is that rare?
[10:41] <dooglus> LaserLine: JVMs don't take the source.  They run byte-code.  The compiler takes the source and generates byte-code
[10:41] <bolrod> when you run it
[10:41] <bolrod> on the fly
[10:41] <tOta> nop
[10:41] <aleahey> yo2lux: do its as root, sudo cp
[10:42] <Mozo> Kyral, the QuakeGL is bronken... and Quake via Soft run too slowly
[10:42] <bulio|lap> uys?
[10:42] <LethalSword> hello?
[10:42] <bulio|lap> *guys
[10:42] <bulio|lap> its ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger?
[10:42] <yo2lux> aleahey thanks, work !
[10:42] <bulio|lap> 617MB .iso right
[10:42] <tOta> and the worst thing is that i cant open my dvd/rw
[10:42] <aleahey> yo2lux: :) np
[10:42] <Superbob> tOta, try "sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0"
[10:42] <dooglus> LaserLine: also, some programs only work on the MS JVM, others only on the Sun JVM.  It's not like all Java programs run on all JVMs
[10:42] <trappist> LaserLine: source that will compile on diverse platforms is rare
[10:43] <H0gan> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu but have run into a few snags with existing Partitions. Anyone here willing to try help in Query window?
[10:43] <vr^238> how do i hide the scrollbar in aterm?
[10:43] <tOta> yeeesssssss
[10:43] <jenda> You experts: I just had a guy (|3lack|ce) who couldn't apt, mv, ls or rm on a fresh install. It did NOTHING at all. Any ideas?
[10:43] <Mozo> Kyral, i getting the nvidia-glx-legacy and dependences now
[10:43] <tOta> yes baby go go bob
[10:43] <Kyral> Mozo: Mkay
[10:43] <tOta> thank you man, you are the l33t :D
[10:43] <Superbob> np
[10:43] <dooglus> jenda: did he forget to run a terminal first?
[10:43] <LaserLine> It's wierd it isn't possible. The idea came up because Java is a bit slow, and I guess if instead of running in a VM, but run in OS nativly, we can keep Java's cross platform abilities but make it a lot faster.
[10:43] <Mozo> Kyral, mkay ??
[10:43] <tOta> man im staying on ubuntu because ppl like bob ;)
[10:43] <Kyral> okay
[10:43] <jenda> dooglus: I didn't say he was stupid, did I? )
[10:43] <Mozo> ah..
[10:44] <Mozo> :P
[10:44] <dooglus> jenda: you said he was having problems running ls, so you kind of did...
[10:44] <aleahey> haha
[10:44] <Superbob> tOta, you may need to edit fstab tho as this wont change when you reboot
[10:44] <jenda> dooglus: No he didn't. the basic commands were obviously not installed/ not fully
[10:44] <tOta> so what should i do mi8
[10:44] <zandaa> jenda, was he using sudo?
[10:44] <tOta> to rename something or what
[10:44] <cryogen12> anyone had any success installing with a sli rig . mine keeps freezing at boot
[10:44] <DRAGON_Ultra> ? for some one will Ubuntu burn a DVD File or does it just burn CDs
[10:45] <tOta> cryogen just unplug one VGA and its ok :D
[10:45] <aleahey> DRAGON_Ultra: ubuntu doesnt burn anything in and of itself
[10:45] <jenda> zandaa: no
[10:45] <aleahey> but there are applications that will burn dvds
[10:45] <Superbob> tOta, type "cat /etc/fstab" then under the options section of your dvd drive make sure "user" is one of them
[10:45] <jenda> zandaa: and for apt-get, he was - still no response, just a prompt gain
[10:45] <jenda> *again
[10:46] <Superbob> tOta, i.e use a text editor
[10:46] <rosen> gnomebaker can do that
[10:46] <tOta> ok
[10:46] <DRAGON_Ultra> so if I get a dvd burner it will let me burn a dvd file right?
[10:46] <dooglus> jenda: what about in a virtual console?
[10:46] <Mozo> Kyral, done. i'll restart my pc.. i back soon.. bye and thanks :)
[10:46] <cryogen12> tota thanks . after install can i reconnect 2nd card?
[10:46] <bulio|lap> will apt-get dist-upgrade allow me to upgrade from ubuntu 4.10 to 5.10?
[10:46] <jenda> dooglus: dunno, he had to go and I didn't think of that.
[10:47] <tOta> i dont know
[10:47] <bulio|lap> anyone?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> bulio|lap,  yes if you follow the wiki
[10:47] <H0gan> Ok, so I am using Windows XP home. I created a partition and it rebooted, but it is rebooted from the new partition, and seeing as nothing is on it, I get a message 'No Operating System' So I am trying to Install Ubuntu,but when I get to the 'Partition Disks' part I dont see an option to install it on the new partion. Just options to create or erase the current partition. Can anyone help?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bulio|lap about upgrade
[10:47] <dooglus> jenda: if 'ls' wasn't installed, you'd see an error message "command not found".  sounds like something bad has happened.
[10:47] <bulio|lap> thanks
[10:47] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:47] <bulio|lap> remember
[10:47] <trappist> H0gan: there's a 'manually configure partitions' or somesuch
[10:47] <bulio|lap> I'm going from 4.10 to 5.10
[10:47] <bulio|lap> got the CD last year
[10:48] <jenda> dooglus: As I said, not fully installed. It has to be there, but blank or something (even tha mans are intact)
[10:48] <tOta> bob could you type the command to edit fstab in nano
[10:48] <H0gan> trappist, I go into that and I see my new partition, but then when I try to continue it just refreshes back to the Partition Disk screen
[10:48] <dooglus> jenda: "man" worked?
[10:48] <zandaa> where can I find "Qt's moc"???
[10:48] <ToR911> i don't think vmware goes well with exclipse
[10:48] <ToR911> eclipse
[10:48] <bulio|lap> gnomefreak: may I PM?
[10:48] <jenda> dooglus: Yes. And it was a fresh install. Incredible.
[10:49] <dooglus> jenda: try a "type ls" to see what ls is running
[10:49] <gnomefreak> no im too busy right now but ty for asking first
[10:49] <Superbob> tOta, "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[10:49] <bulio|lap> ok
[10:49] <bulio|lap> is there anyone able to talk to me in a PM about upgrading?
[10:49] <tOta> so bob what to rename
[10:49] <jenda> bulio|lap: I sincerely recommend a clean install
[10:49] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[10:49] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:49] <trappist> bulio|lap: that's not how it works.  you ask a specific question and anyone who knows answers.
[10:50] <bulio|lap> I'm going from 4.10 to 5.10
[10:50] <tOta> to rename or what
[10:50] <j2daosh> what is up peoples?!
[10:50] <bulio|lap> should I dl an ISO?
[10:50] <bulio|lap> or apt-get
[10:50] <tOta> bulio download the iso
[10:50] <jenda> j2daosh: Ready. What's up with you?
[10:50] <Superbob> tOta, yeah save a backup first
[10:50] <j2daosh> how do u use the apt -get?
[10:50] <bulio|lap> ok
[10:50] <tOta> it will be cleaner and faster
[10:50] <bulio|lap> the >ISO
[10:50] <j2daosh> not a whole lot
[10:50] <H0gan> What should the file system be to install Ubuntu on? At the minute mine is Ext2
[10:50] <bulio|lap> is it 617MB?
[10:50] <jenda> bulio|lap: Definitely ISO - it's the best way. Backup and clean install
[10:50] <tOta> yep
[10:50] <j2daosh> just trying to soak up everyones info
[10:50] <j2daosh> lol
[10:51] <jenda> H0gan: EXT3 or reiserfs
[10:51] <j2daosh> <----newbie
[10:51] <bulio|lap> I had 5.10 ISO before
[10:51] <bulio|lap> was giving me problems
[10:51] <tOta> bob i know im n00b but a command for a backup
[10:51] <jenda> j2daosh: man apt-get :)
[10:51] <jenda> bulio|lap: problems?
[10:51] <bulio|lap> just let me know
[10:51] <tOta> i know i need to type copy command and then folder of file and where to backup
[10:51] <j2daosh> speaking of which... what do i have to do inorder to play mp3s?
[10:51] <LethalSword> my ubuntu wont update
[10:51] <Superbob> tOta, press ctrl + o to type a new name for fstab like fstab.old
[10:51] <j2daosh> hey jenda... is there like a non technical format for info on apt -get?
[10:52] <bulio|lap> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso 617MB
[10:52] <bulio|lap> is that right?
[10:52] <j2daosh> lol i dont unsteand that man article so well
[10:52] <jenda> j2daosh: PM
[10:52] <j2daosh> understand
[10:52] <j2daosh> pm?
[10:52] <beelzebub1987> Hello!
[10:52] <tOta> bulio thats the one
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell j2daosh  about apt
[10:52] <tOta> bulio what cpu do you have
[10:52] <tOta> in your laptop
[10:52] <bulio|lap> no
[10:52] <H0gan> 'No root file system is defined' Anyone know how to retify this?
[10:52] <bulio|lap> in desktop
[10:52] <bulio|lap> i386
[10:53] <Superbob> H0gan, you need to set te mount point to "/"
[10:53] <beelzebub1987> Anyone here a gamer?
[10:53] <Superbob> *the
[10:53] <oxez> I am
[10:53] <bulio|lap> so its good?
[10:53] <beelzebub1987> oxez
[10:53] <beelzebub1987> what games you play
[10:53] <tOta> yep
[10:53] <jenda> j2daosh: can you see the private message?
[10:53] <LethalSword> im a gamer but not as much on linux lol
[10:53] <oxez> beelzebub1987: I am a gamer, but that's why I have a windows partition
[10:53] <oxez> beelzebub1987: counter-strike mostly, I play in leagues
[10:53] <beelzebub1987> aww
[10:53] <tOta> i downloaded a K7 kernel for my pc, because i have a K7
[10:53] <jenda> bulio|lap: looks good
[10:53] <beelzebub1987> anyone here a ubuntu gamer?
[10:53] <tOta> but you need to install it first
[10:53] <oxez> beelzebub1987: what game you want to play?
[10:53] <H0gan> At the moment the mount point is: /media/hda2   Should I just change this to '/' on its own?
[10:54] <bulio|lap> wait
[10:54] <bulio|lap> I have 5.10 on a CD
[10:54] <jenda> H0gan: if that's the partition you installed as /, then yes
[10:54] <tOta> and then you install kernel specific for your CPU, but i think if you have a Pentium you dont need it
[10:54] <bulio|lap> was giving me package install problems
[10:54] <Superbob> H0gan, make sure that the partition your installing the base ubuntu has the mount point /
[10:54] <beelzebub1987> well
[10:54] <LethalSword> my ubuntu is acting im im going to reformat
[10:54] <beelzebub1987> I really wanted to play ragnarok online on my ubuntu
[10:54] <LethalSword> cyas
[10:54] <beelzebub1987> but it's not possible =(
[10:55] <tOta> my bro plays planeshift on ubuntu :D
[10:55] <bulio|lap> 30 mins
[10:55] <Superbob> H0gan, say if hda2 was the ubuntu partition then yes
[10:55] <j2daosh> i run apt from the terminal window right?
[10:55] <beelzebub1987> how are the graphics on planeshift?
[10:55] <oxez> beelzebub1987: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=928
[10:55] <tOta> averege
[10:55] <oxez> beelzebub1987: from what I see, your game runs perfect on Ubuntu breezy 5.10 (gold)
[10:55] <tOta> it is a MMORPG
[10:55] <beelzebub1987> eh?
[10:55] <Superbob> i think i played that a year ago
[10:55] <beelzebub1987> really?
[10:56] <Superbob> it was naff as hell
[10:56] <jenda> j2daosh: Do you see the PM?
[10:56] <oxez> beelzebub1987: It's rated Gold
[10:56] <H0gan> What should my 'Mount Options' be set as?
[10:56] <beelzebub1987> woahmg
[10:56] <tOta> bulio: download a iso image burn it @ speed like 16x and on a little better cd
[10:56] <jenda> j2daosh: The private message
[10:56] <j2daosh> yes... i think im talking in it?
[10:56] <j2daosh> well not that time
[10:56] <tOta> not on a chepiest :D
[10:56] <tOta> maybe you cd was damaged
[10:56] <Superbob> H0gan, i dont think you need to change mount options, just mount point
[10:57] <j2daosh> join #j2daosh
[10:57] <H0gan> Superbob, I changed the mount point to '/' then went to '...write changed to disk' and it said that I have uncorrected errors, any ideas as to what they might be :\
[10:57] <mrkoje> !bot snack
[10:57] <ivan> pessoal como fao para baixar os codecs para msicas?
[10:57] <ubotu> thanks mrkoje :)
[10:57] <siriusnova> hi
[10:58] <siriusnova> everyone sleeping?
[10:58] <Superbob> H0gan, if you press ctrl + alt + f2 does it show any error msgs?
[10:58] <Kyral> ivan: #ubuntu-es
[10:58] <ivan> with?
[10:58] <Superbob> yourself
[10:59] <H0gan> Superbob, tells me to hit enter for console, then it tells me to type help for commands
[10:59] <ivan> I'm trying sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:59] <Kyral> ivan: Do you need a spanish speaking channel (only asking because your first line was in spanish)
[10:59] <teethBoss> hey guys
[10:59] <teethBoss> anyone here up for helping me with something?
[10:59] <ivan> no rsrs.. is portuguese
[11:00] <Kyral> teethBoss: we are all here
[11:00] <erUSUL> !anyone
[11:00] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:00] <Superbob> H0gan, sorry how about ctrl + alt + f3 (press ctrl + alt +f1 to go back to install screen)
[11:00] <Kyral> ivan: I can't tell lol
[11:00] <Kyral> <[11:00] <tOta> superbob: its not working
[11:00] <ivan> you
[11:00] <tOta> i have mounted it but cant eject cd
[11:00] <teethBoss> ive been told not to ask to ask, but to ask, but in certain channels, that gets me yelled at
[11:00] <tOta> i have mounted it but cant eject dvd
[11:00] <teethBoss> so i play it safe
[11:00] <Seveas> teethBoss, here we are friendlier :)
[11:01] <siriusnova> anyone here sync a windows ce device with Ubuntu?
[11:01] <trappist> unless you ask to ask
[11:01] <bulio|lap> I hope this install cd works
[11:01] <Superbob> tOta, did you edit fstab and save it as fstab?
[11:01] <siriusnova> multisync has "issues"
[11:01] <siriusnova> with Evolution
[11:01] <Techie_dude> how do i install a bin file in Breezy
[11:01] <H0gan> File descriptor 3, 4, 5, 6 left open. No Matching phyisical volumes found. That's what it says, Superbob.
[11:01] <tOta> but what in fstab do i need to edit
[11:01] <siriusnova> also Evolution has issues with my imap server hehe
[11:01] <teethBoss> anyway, here's my problem. I have an Intel IPW 2200 Card and im trying to dual boot. I have ubuntu all set up and its working wonderfully...I will never go back to slackware, but my problem is this. My wireless card no longer woeks in windows
[11:01] <tOta> to rename or what
[11:02] <teethBoss> any ideas?
[11:02] <Superbob> H0gan, ok seems like a small problem can you type "fdisk -l" in the terminal?
[11:02] <Techie_dude> how do i install .bin files in breezy
[11:02] <trappist> teethBoss: sounds like a windows issue.  hard to imagine ubuntu hosin the hardware in just such a way as to break it for windows.
[11:03] <Kyral> teethBoss: Sounds like a Windows Problem
[11:03] <trappist> teethBoss: try sh filename.bin
[11:03] <tOta> so bob
[11:03] <Superbob> tOta, on the line that says /cdrom0 make sure "user" is in the options column
[11:03] <tOta> yes it says udf,iso9660 user, noauto
[11:03] <beelzebub1987> thanks oxez =)
[11:03] <tOta> should i change noauto to auto
[11:03] <beelzebub1987> hopefully this works
[11:03] <Seveas> tOta, no
[11:04] <tOta> ok
[11:04] <Superbob> t0ta, thats odd
[11:04] <teethBoss> im sure it is something with windows, but the proble was def caused by ubuntu. i have had situations before dual-booting where an ethernet card only worked in windows if i REBOOTed linux, not shut down
[11:04] <teethBoss> ive tried it, that doesnt work either
[11:04] <tOta> what is odd
[11:04] <H0gan> Superbob, Okay, I typed fdisk -l It gave me my list of two partitions
[11:04] <Exxcaliber> teethBoss, Do you still believe in santa claus ? :)
[11:04] <rickard> hi, anyone here running rhythmbox?
[11:05] <teethBoss> heck yes i do
[11:05] <rickard> ok
[11:05] <teethBoss> ;-)
[11:05] <rickard> I have a question
[11:05] <Superbob> H0gan, does it say what filesystems they use like ext3/linux
[11:05] <erUSUL> rickard, me
[11:05] <rickard> is there anyway to manage your library?
[11:05] <rickard> like syncing with a folder on disc
[11:05] <Exxcaliber> teethBoss, Greate.. cause then i guess we shall just proceed using your theory about the ethernet card :)
[11:05] <Exxcaliber> :P
[11:05] <teethBoss> Exxcaliber why?
[11:05] <H0gan> The first one is using 'Hidden HPFS/NTFS' and the second one is using 'Linux'
[11:05] <H0gan> Superbob.
[11:05] <rickard> or remove broken files etc
[11:05] <gnomefreak> i keep forgetting this room is open :(
[11:06] <doogers> Chan UBUNTU Italian?
[11:06] <erUSUL> rickard, not that i know of... sorry
[11:06] <erUSUL> !it
[11:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:06] <siriusnova> uhh hey guys
[11:06] <rickard> okey
[11:06] <siriusnova> anyone want to help me with setting up evolution?
[11:06] <Exxcaliber> teethBoss, it's far out.. and besides, drivers usually work way better in windows.. If they really don't then switch to the standard ones.. Ubuntu is using standard ethernet drivers
[11:06] <siriusnova> my school has a ms-exchange server :/
[11:06] <rickard> shouldn't be too hard to write a program to fix it
[11:06] <siriusnova> what is an OWA url?
[11:06] <ToR911> ok vmware and eclipse don't work good with each other :)
[11:07] <rickard> from what I can see rhythbox just uses the xml-files for library database
[11:07] <Superbob> H0gan, ok i dont what the could be, unless you have no swap partition
[11:07] <Superbob> *problem
[11:07] <KeithWeisshar> what happens if i install a third-party boot manmager while grub was originally installed to the mbr on the first hard drive
[11:07] <H0gan> Hmmm, alright, cheers anyway Superbob.
[11:07] <KeithWeisshar> can i install BootIt NG
[11:07] <teethBoss> im really confused. I wonder if uninstalling ipw2200 fromlinux will help. I need wireless in windows, but i dont need it in linux
[11:07] <tOta> so bob help me now :)
[11:08] <tOta> :D
[11:08] <Seveas> KeithWeisshar, yes but you should not
[11:08] <gnomefreak> KeithWeisshar,  dont know i stay with grub just fewer openings for problems :(
[11:08] <rickard> are there any other music players like rhythmbox out there that I can try?
[11:08] <Superbob> tOta, lol well you can read the dvd now?
[11:08] <tOta> yep
[11:08] <Fujitsu> XMMS, rickard
[11:08] <tOta> but cant eject
[11:08] <Superbob> can you type "eject cdrom"
[11:08] <erUSUL> rickard, banshee
[11:08] <ElitePete> you gotta keep em seperated!
[11:08] <rickard> Fujitsu, but does it have the audio library thing?
[11:09] <KeithWeisshar> does anyone use bootit ng
[11:09] <teethBoss> alright im out
[11:09] <aeger> can somebody please tell me how can i install libxaw6 and libgtk1.2 ? i cant apt-get it
[11:09] <tOta> it says: error: could not determine real path of the device: No such file or directory eject: unmount of / failed
[11:09] <KeithWeisshar> it's a partition/boot manager from terabyte
[11:09] <teethBoss> talk to you all later
[11:10] <tOta>  so
[11:10] <KeithWeisshar> i have windows on hd0 and ubuntu on hd1
[11:10] <Superbob> tOta, do you have just one optical device installed?
[11:10] <tOta> yes
[11:10] <winston> anyone got any tips on getting slimserver installed?
[11:11] <Techie_dude> i can't get my stupid router to work with my apache server.....stupid Belkin!
[11:11] <gnomefreak> sorry winston  i cant even get ssh-server to work :(
[11:11] <tOta> and in disks i have one extra hard disk that doesnt exist
[11:11] <tOta> i dont have it in my computer
[11:11] <ElitePete> gnomefreak ssh server on ubuntu?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> yes lo
[11:11] <ElitePete> weird... worked perfectly for me and i'm a total linux boob.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:11] <H0gan> Anyone know how I can assign swap space?
[11:11] <ElitePete> did you forward port 22?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> i can connect to otehrs pc but they cant connect to mine
[11:11] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:12] <Superbob> what happens if u type "sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd"
[11:12] <ElitePete> gnome
[11:12] <ElitePete> whats the address ?
[11:12] <ElitePete> i'll try.
[11:12] <trappist> gnomefreak: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:12] <aeger> Can somebody please tell me how can I install libxaw6 and libgtk1.2 ? I can't apt-get them.
[11:12] <tOta> stupid
[11:12] <gnomefreak> im not sure anymore i havent set it back up i cant now im not using linux right now
[11:12] <cafuego> !test
[11:12] <ubotu> Crashed.
[11:12] <ElitePete> !test
[11:13] <gnomefreak> trappist,  we tried that yesterday
[11:13] <tOta> oooo
[11:13] <gnomefreak> i think its cause im not directly into the router
[11:13] <tOta> bob i have a idea
[11:13] <erUSUL> aeger, apt-cache search libgtk1.2
[11:13] <erUSUL> ; apt-cache search libxaw
[11:13] <tOta> my dvd/rw isnt on same channel like the cd/rw was
[11:13] <Superbob> channel?
[11:13] <bimberi> aeger: those packages are in main, do you have that repository enabled?
[11:13] <jberg> can i install ubuntu with floppies and internet? ive only seen cd options
[11:14] <tOta> primary, slave...
[11:14] <Techie_dude> ...i downloaded java run time or what ever it is and it says i dont' have it and i can't get it from the firefox sire
[11:14] <Techie_dude> site
[11:14] <tOta> secondary master....
[11:14] <Techie_dude> nm
[11:14] <Superbob> t0ta, that shouldnt matter
[11:14] <Trilom> Need help, i installed LimeWire the way it said to on the starter, and when i click on it to run it, it doesnt run........... help please
[11:14] <aeger> erUSUL,  thanks, I'll try that.
[11:14] <bimberi> jberg: there are some alternative install methods here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:14] <H0gan> My #1 primary partition has the black smiley face, how can I change it to a shite smiley face?
[11:14] <tOta> the most biggest problem that soon i need to get bac this dvd/rw to my friend
[11:14] <Superbob> lmao
[11:15] <H0gan> white*
[11:15] <tOta> and i need to backup 25GB
[11:15] <ToR911> where does java install to?
[11:15] <jberg> thanks bimberi
[11:15] <devilz_> hi i was trying to install xmms and i get this
[11:15] <bimberi> jberg: np :)
[11:15] <devilz_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:15] <devilz_>  gdb
[11:15] <devilz_>  bug-buddy
[11:15] <devilz_>  ubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <aeger> bimberi,  I don't know, how can I make sure that I have it enabled?
[11:15] <pinkisntwell>  i'm using zsnes and I have to run it as root to get sound even though all my other apps work ok with sound. why?
[11:15] <Superbob> it already is a shite smiley face
[11:15] <ToR911> where does java install to?
[11:15] <tOta> 03 but i cant open the drive eject it
[11:15] <H0gan> Superbob :P
[11:15] <ToR911> or how do u search for files in ubu?
[11:15] <tOta> 01 but i cant open the drive eject it
[11:16] <Superbob> tOta, did u do that last command i told u too?
[11:16] <tOta> u mean user
[11:16] <Trilom> Need help, i installed LimeWire the way it said to on the starter, and when i click on it to run it, it doesnt run........... help please
[11:16] <bimberi> aeger: In Synaptic, Settings -> Repositories.  More here - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:16] <tOta> i need to edit fstab right
[11:16] <tOta> i did that
[11:16] <erUSUL> pinkisntwell, maybe you need to kill esd before lounching zsnes
[11:17] <cmatheson> Trilom: what happens if you start it from the shell?
[11:17] <pinkisntwell> but why does it run as root?
[11:17] <pinkisntwell> i mean with sudo
[11:17] <aeger> bimberi,  thanks, I'll look into it.
[11:17] <Superbob> tOta, no i told u to "sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd"
[11:17] <Trilom> cmatheson: how would i run it from the shell?
[11:17] <bimberi> aeger: np :)
[11:17] <erUSUL> pinkisntwell, maybe as root it can kick esd out of the sound card ;)
[11:18] <cmatheson> Trilom: just open up an xterm or gnome-terminal or whatever and then 'cd' to where you unpacked LimeWire, and then try to './Limewire.sh' (or whatever the executable is)
[11:18] <tOta> in: /dev/dvd: file exists
[11:18] <pinkisntwell> esd is a sound server right?
[11:18] <trappist> tOta: ln -sf
[11:18] <cmatheson> pinkisntwell: just install libsdl1.2debian-esd
[11:19] <cmatheson> pinkisntwell: (but yes, esd is a sound server)
[11:19] <tOta> i did it
[11:19] <tOta> so what now
[11:19] <vr^238> cmatheson: i'm not sure if i talked to you about aterm a few minutes ago.
[11:19] <pinkisntwell> and what's libsdl blah blah?
[11:19] <tOta> to use ls -s ....
[11:19] <cmatheson> vr^238: yeah you did
[11:19] <vr^238> cmatheson: how do i paste text?
[11:19] <vr^238> cmatheson: and click on links ?
[11:19] <Superbob> tOta, does the eject cdrom command work now with "ln -sf
[11:19] <cmatheson> pinkisntwell: it's a package, apt-get install it
[11:20] <BlueDevil> does anyone know why setting Xft.dpi in /etc/X11/Xresources/xorg-common has no effect?
[11:20] <tOta> i dont have it
[11:20] <trappist> tOta: I mean sudo ln -sf /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd
[11:20] <cafuego> vr^238: Copy text by selecting it, paste by middle-click.
[11:20] <cmatheson> vr^238: well, to paste text, just middle-click and it will paste whatever you most recently copied onto the X clipboard (note that that is any-text you have selected)
[11:20] <cmatheson> vr^238: as far as links goes... i usually just hi-lite it and then middle-click it into my browser
[11:20] <vr^238> cmatheson, cafuego: thanks
[11:20] <tOta> i dont have dvd now
[11:20] <H0gan> Anyone know how to create a swap space partition?
[11:20] <tOta> i need to mount it again
[11:20] <vr^238> cmatheson: i see, thank you
[11:20] <Kyral> mkswap <partiion>
[11:20] <cmatheson> H0gan: cfdisk is pretty simple to use
[11:20] <pinkisntwell> will it fix my problem?
[11:20] <Kyral> sudo :P
[11:21] <Kyral> sudo swapon <partion>
[11:21] <ToR911> i installed java, but forsome reason it installed in in my Home directory, how do i make it a system install?
[11:21] <tOta> i dont have any signs of dvd
[11:21] <cafuego> ToR911: using 'make-jpkg'
[11:21] <Superbob> Kyral, hes at install stage
[11:21] <cmatheson> ToR911: go check out the documentation for make-jpkg (apt-get install java-package)
[11:21] <tOta> im in same situation like before typing anything
[11:22] <Kyral> oh
[11:22] <ToR911> will it get the SUN java?
[11:22] <Superbob> tOta, lol "sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom0"
[11:23] <ubuntu_> hello?
[11:23] <jenda> hello
[11:23] <ubuntu_> can ANYONE PLEASE help me
[11:23] <beelzebub1987> Hi thurr
[11:23] <jenda> what with?
[11:23] <ubuntu_> im REALLY new to linux
[11:23] <H0gan> All I want to do is create a swap partition, and it's telling me 18gigs is the smallest i can make it? pfft, seems a tad high?
[11:23] <ubuntu_> like.....today new
[11:23] <pinkisntwell> I have already the oss version of libsdl, should I remove it?
[11:23] <jenda> ubuntu_: That's OK. What's the matter?
[11:24] <ubuntu_> well im a mac user running the live version of ubuntu
[11:24] <Superbob> H0gan, try using fdisk maybe that'll be easier
[11:24] <ubuntu_> i like it so far
[11:24] <ubuntu_> its nice
[11:24] <cmatheson> ubuntu_: hey that's great, but i dare you to ask your question
[11:24] <ToR911> god, so complicated to install java
[11:25] <trappist> lol@cmatheson
[11:25] <ubuntu_> ok....
[11:25] <ToR911> i have to do the fakeroot, to isntall java on system??
[11:25] <H0gan> Is swap space vital?
[11:25] <ubuntu_> i have no idea how to open a .tar or a .tar.gz file
[11:25] <trappist> H0gan: depends.  on a modern system, not usually
[11:25] <bimberi> ubotu tell ToR911 about javadebs
[11:25] <cmatheson> ToR911: no it's a peice of cake... make-jpkg is the greatest thing that ever happened to java on linux, try it out
[11:25] <ubuntu_> NO IDEA!
[11:25] <ubuntu_> and it is pissing me off
[11:25] <trappist> ubuntu_: tar zxf filename.tar.gz
[11:25] <chrisx1> how do i unpack a tar.gz
[11:25] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: just doubble click on the file
[11:25] <cmatheson> ubuntu_: .tar = tar xvf filename .tar.gz = tar zxvf filename
[11:25] <ubuntu_> i did
[11:25] <chrisx1> nm
[11:26] <bimberi> ubuntu_: Applications -> Accessories -> Archive Manager
[11:26] <Superbob> tar -x <filename> <dest>
[11:26] <IzzyCC> Does anyone have any experience with helping with ISPConfig installation issues on ubuntu?
[11:26] <ubuntu_> thats how to unstuff it?
[11:26] <erUSUL> H0gan, no if you have plenty ram. you can use a file in the filesystem for swap space but i forgot how
[11:26] <ubuntu_> does it matter that im running the live and its not a full install
[11:26] <tOta> superbob: its says you must specify the fileystem type
[11:26] <H0gan> In Ubuntu, is there an option to set which partition to boot from...? or will I automaticall get the choice when I boot up?
[11:26] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: in the command line one uses tar -x...
[11:27] <cmatheson> H0gan: that's all part of your grub configuration (check out /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:27] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: in a graphical system one uses archiv-manager which should automatically open when you click on the file
[11:27] <Superbob> H0gan, you can edit that once grubs installed
[11:27] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: this also works on the live cd
[11:27] <H0gan> Alright, cheers Superbob, cmatheson.
[11:27] <Knowerrors> Anyone know a good text recognition program, that will convert a scanned document into a text document?
[11:27] <zandaa> does a fresh Ubuntu 5.10 (64-bit) installation have Java support?
[11:27] <ubuntu_> it does?
[11:28] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: yes
[11:28] <bimberi> zandaa: no
[11:28] <trappist> Knowerrors: gocr
[11:28] <everton137> Hi, did someone here make webcam work on gnomemeeting? When I click on camera button, linux stops. I have a Webpro2, LG. Wich ither program I can test webcam on Ubuntu?
[11:28] <ubuntu_> i double click on the file and the archive manager comes up with 1000 different files
[11:28] <bimberi> ubotu tell zandaa about java
[11:28] <ubuntu_> which one to install?
[11:28] <zandaa> bimberi, thnaks
[11:28] <bimberi> zandaa: np :)
[11:28] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: so now you can click extract
[11:28] <cmatheson> zandaa: no
[11:28] <erUSUL> ubuntu_, what are you yrying to install?
[11:28] <Superbob> tOta,  "sudo mount -t  /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0"
[11:28] <Superbob> with out the -t even
[11:29] <ubuntu_> for example....i want to install "mpg123-0.59r.tar.gz"
[11:29] <ubuntu_> i double click
[11:29] <chrisx1> how do i stop webmin?
[11:29] <cmatheson> ubuntu_: yeah, that's the contents of the file
[11:29] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: you don't have to compile....
[11:29] <trappist> ubuntu_: just sudo apt-get install mpg123
[11:29] <erUSUL> ubuntu_, System->Admin->synaptic to install things
[11:29] <Knowerrors> trappist: thx, will try
[11:29] <bimberi> ubuntu_: mpg123 is in the multiverse repository (which you may have to enable - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto)
[11:29] <erUSUL> !tell ubuntu_ about sources
[11:29] <chrisx1> how do i stop webmin?
[11:30] <erUSUL> !tell ubuntu_ about mp3
[11:30] <trappist> chrisx1: /etc/init.d/webmin stop
[11:30] <tOta> again i cant eject it
[11:30] <lucasvo> chrisx1: isn't it /etc/init.d/webmin stop
[11:30] <trappist> tOta: you have to umount to eject
[11:30] <erUSUL> ubuntu_, read the links ubotu send you
[11:30] <tOta> ok
[11:30] <ubuntu_> it says that Package mpg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:30] <ubuntu_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:30] <ubuntu_> is only available from another source
[11:30] <ubuntu_> E: Package mpg123 has no installation candidate
[11:30] <tOta> to unmount every the same just unmount instead of mount right
[11:31] <cmatheson> ubuntu_: that's strange, try mpg321 it's even better
[11:31] <lucasvo> tOta: yes
[11:31] <trappist> ubuntu_: it was mentioned to you that you have to enable the multiverse repository to install it
[11:31] <lucasvo> cmatheson: isn't it just a frontend?
[11:31] <erUSUL> ubuntu_, read the links ubotu send you
[11:31] <trappist> ubuntu_: that's true of a great many packages
[11:31] <ubuntu_> same thing
[11:31] <ubuntu_> ok will do
[11:31] <Superbob> tOta,  "sudo umount   /dev/cdrom "
[11:31] <cmatheson> lucasvo: afaik it's a different implementation that is less evil somehow (could be wrong... it's been a while since i looked into it)
[11:31] <lucasvo> erUSUL: don't you need to have a registred to receive privmessages?
[11:31] <ubuntu_> multiverse repository?
[11:31] <inigo_> gabon
[11:31] <ubuntu_> what?
[11:31] <tOta> device is busy???
[11:32] <trappist> cmatheson: if it plays mp3s it's exactly as evil (which is to say not evil) as any other mp3 player
[11:32] <chrisx1> trappist: lucasvo  no it doesnt:(
[11:32] <trat02community_> need libgpod in breezy, hot to get it?
[11:32] <trappist> tOta: get out of the mount dir
[11:32] <trat02community_> I cant find it in sources
[11:32] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories
[11:32] <cmatheson> trappist: yeah, but mpg123 is under a non-free license
[11:33] <trappist> cmatheson: that's because the mp3 codec is nonfree
[11:33] <siriusnova> hmmm
[11:33] <tOta> i dont have open a mount directory or a cd
[11:33] <siriusnova> what are some interesting packages to install? Im bored :)
[11:33] <siriusnova> something neat?
[11:33] <Superbob> tOta, or media dir
[11:33] <lfop> siriusnova, apt-get install supertux
[11:33] <siriusnova> lfop - supertux runs slow on my 400mhz PII :/
[11:33] <cmatheson> trappist: not only because of mp3... the code itself wasn't under a very friendly license... they made mpg321 so that they could get a command-line mp3 player in debian
[11:33] <lucasvo> cmatheson: man webmin
[11:33] <tOta> but now i dont have mount it and can open the dvd
[11:34] <ubuntu_> im sooooo confused
[11:34] <ubuntu_> still cant get it
[11:34] <lfop> sad .ogg isnt bigger.
[11:34] <northie> My sb live! works with a Live CD boot but not in my installation, probably because I've switched cards a few times. Can I fix this without a reinstall?
[11:34] <cmatheson> lucasvo: what about webmin now? wrong person?
[11:34] <trappist> cmatheson: see /usr/share/doc/mpg123/copyright
[11:34] <Superbob> tOta, of course
[11:34] <ubuntu_> i want to play .mp3 and .avi's
[11:34] <ubuntu_> i have no idea
[11:34] <myke> hello
[11:34] <ubuntu_> someone help?
[11:34] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: just click on add and there you have to select "Non-free"
[11:34] <tOta> what ofcourse
[11:34] <mitey`> ubuntu sure is treating my laptop and wireless nicely :)
[11:34] <cmatheson> trappist: i don't have it installed... i realize it's gpl now but i'm assuming it hasn't always been that way
[11:35] <myke> im haveing a problem with viewing my unused space in 5.10
[11:35] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: are you in the application Synaptic?
[11:35] <tOta> i dont have mount it and cant open a dvd
[11:35] <chrisx1> Failed to open /etc/rc.d/init.d/webmin for writing : No such file or directory
[11:35] <chrisx1>  <- Is That Bad?
[11:35] <Superbob> tOta, if its not mounted u can eject it , vice versa
[11:35] <jovino> salve a todos
[11:35] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:35] <trappist> cmatheson: it's not gpl but it's sufficiently free for the debian freedom nazis
[11:35] <ubuntu_> i just selected the non-free and its d/ling
[11:35] <cmatheson> trappist: they changed the license on 18 may 2001 to lgpl, not sure what it was before then
[11:36] <tOta> but i got again the same eject error
[11:36] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: system > administration > synaptic > settings > repositories > add > make a tick at: " Non Free" > ok
[11:36] <trappist> cmatheson: oh :)  it had its own unique license
[11:36] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:36] <tOta> unable to eject media, unable to find or open device for: /dev/hdc
[11:36] <cmatheson> trappist: ah, that's probably why then :)
[11:36] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: then press ok once again
[11:36] <myke> why is the disk utillie telling me my root partion is nto formated
[11:36] <trappist> cmatheson: I just noticed this copyright notice is dated 1997
[11:36] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:36] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: then press reload
[11:36] <jovino> reload
[11:36] <ubuntu_> k
[11:36] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: wait till it's done
[11:37] <Superbob> tOta, and if you press the eject button on the drive?
[11:37] <ubuntu_> k
[11:37] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: search > mpg123
[11:37] <tOta> i get that error when i press the eject button
[11:37] <ubuntu_> k
[11:37] <ubuntu_> which one?
[11:37] <twanger> any good channel for totem and mpg anyone?
[11:37] <cmatheson> twanger: maybe the #gnome channel?
[11:37] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: make a tick at the mpg123 package > apply
[11:37] <ubuntu_> there are 4 different ones
[11:37] <twanger> thanx
[11:37] <myke> is there a wifi site monitor?
[11:38] <myke> for ubuntu
[11:38] <myke> ?
[11:38] <Superbob> tOta, i guess its just looking in the wrong places for your drive
[11:38] <trappist> myke: site monitor?
[11:38] <lfop> for all your video-needs. apt-get install vlc.
[11:38] <tOta> what do i need to change
[11:38] <trappist> myke: maybe you're looking for kismet
[11:38] <myke> like in *dows i can see what wifi APs are out there and connect to which one i want
[11:38] <tOta> this is driving me crazy :(
[11:38] <Superbob> tOta, i cant think why it would give som much trouble
[11:38] <cmatheson> myke: yeah that's kismet
[11:38] <hamstah> hi
[11:39] <ubuntu_> k it says its installing now
[11:39] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: take the one that's best
[11:39] <JairunCaloth> anyone use wine much?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> now this will make it play .mp3?
[11:39] <tOta> i typed all you said and did all
[11:39] <jenda> JairunCaloth: a little
[11:39] <myke> camtheson  thnx
[11:39] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: which one can you select?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> i just did mpg123
[11:39] <JairunCaloth> I'm getting an error that says I have no free diskspace in wine, yet there is plenty
[11:39] <Siph0n> btw: neone yesterday who was helping me with my dvds burning slow issue, in case ya all care i used NEROlinux instead of K3b and it burns right now :)
[11:39] <ubuntu_> its installed
[11:39] <trappist> myke: yeah, you want kismet
[11:39] <northie> My sb live! works with a Live CD boot but not in my installation, probably because I've switched cards a few times. Can I fix this without a reinstall? lspci detects it, but aplay -l says I haven't a card.
[11:39] <roune> hey
[11:39] <northie> Any help?
[11:39] <sethk> JairunCaloth, do you have multiple partitions?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> the latest version
[11:39] <myke> trappist  thnx
[11:40] <cafuego> northie: load the driver.
[11:40] <JairunCaloth> not beyond the defaults
[11:40] <hamstah> I have a problem with my ubuntu install, I'm using a live cd because i cant boot on my system, this is not my probelm, my problem is that i cant access my /home after i mounted my / partition... ( /home is on the same partition than the others ) can someone help me please?
[11:40] <roune> can someone help with, a short one, with ubuntu?
[11:40] <Superbob> tOta, can you read it using "sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"
[11:40] <JairunCaloth> there is an other drive too
[11:40] <northie> cafuego, It's an SB Live!, emu10k1 driver. Shouldn't it load automatically?
[11:40] <chrisx1> How Do I Uninstall Webmin
[11:40] <northie> cafuego, What ought I do?
[11:40] <cmatheson> hamstah: what do you mean you can't access /home?
[11:40] <myke> trappist   the disk manager says my / partion isnt formated and i cnat tell how much free space is available
[11:41] <Siph0n> actaully, maybe it didnt work fine :(
[11:41] <cmatheson> myke: ?? . try typing 'df -h' at the shell
[11:41] <hamstah> cmatheson, when i try to cd /home it says me that /home isnt a directory
[11:41] <tOta> again specify filesystem
[11:41] <hamstah> cmatheson, and i have strange values when i ls -l
[11:41] <intelikey> JairunCaloth 'no disk space' probably means that the program can't write to disk.   it may be permissions rather than disk space.
[11:41] <hamstah> ?r--rws-w-  13502 1839582238  230021670 1488727859 1950-06-23 17:20 home
[11:41] <cmatheson> hamstah: dump them to pastebin or something?
[11:41] <Siph0n> neone ever have an issue with NEROlinux where u burn sometin, and then when u put the dvd in, it says it is blank?
[11:42] <lucasvo> hamstah: are you root?
[11:42] <cmatheson> hamstah: hmm, sounds like that install didn't go very smooth...
[11:42] <hamstah> yeah
[11:42] <hamstah> cmatheson, my install was fine
[11:42] <myke> cmatheson it says im useign 38% but there is no mount point there
[11:42] <hamstah> cmatheson, i installed it few months ago
[11:42] <ubuntu_> ok its installed?
[11:42] <Siph0n> nm :) ejected and put it in again and it works :)
[11:42] <ubuntu_> now what?
[11:42] <myke> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[11:42] <myke>                        72G   26G   43G  38% /
[11:42] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: how do you want to play mp3?
[11:42] <hamstah> I installed win last week to play aoe 3 :]  and then when i try to use linux it sucks
[11:42] <cmatheson> hamstah: did you do something that might have corrupted the partition?
[11:42] <myke> lol
[11:42] <myke> nm
[11:42] <myke> i see it
[11:43] <roune> omg, chaos ^
[11:43] <cmatheson> myke: wow that's really strange
[11:43] <hamstah> cmatheson, no
[11:43] <ubuntu_> idc
[11:43] <myke> cmatheson is that a flaw?
[11:43] <ubuntu_> some way
[11:43] <ubuntu_> anyway i can really
[11:43] <ubuntu_> and i want to play .avi's
[11:43] <ubuntu_> no idea how to do that either
[11:43] <cmatheson> myke: not sure, never heard of this before... did you say  this is w/ a live-cd?
[11:43] <trat02community_> cant get my iPod working without libgpod
[11:43] <trat02community_> in breezy
[11:43] <myke> cmatheson the disk utilitie says it is not formatted
[11:43] <cmatheson> hamstah: and you used to be able to get to home?
[11:43] <myke> no install
[11:43] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: open a terminal
[11:43] <beelzebub1987> so um..
[11:44] <ubuntu_> yea
[11:44] <chrisx1> how do i make webmin start at startup?
[11:44] <beelzebub1987> anyone got a instruction guide
[11:44] <trat02community_> is any premade package for that?
[11:44] <Superbob> tOta, can you read it using "sudo mount -t cdfs /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"
[11:44] <myke> cmatheson here is the whole thing
[11:44] <myke> myke@ubuntu:~$ df -h
[11:44] <myke> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[11:44] <myke> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[11:44] <myke>                        72G   26G   43G  38% /
[11:44] <myke> tmpfs                 236M     0  236M   0% /dev/shm
[11:44] <myke> tmpfs                 236M   13M  224M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile
[11:44] <beelzebub1987> on how to get ragnarok online working with wine
[11:44] <myke> /dev/hda1             228M   19M  197M   9% /boot
[11:44] <myke> sorry for the paste
[11:44] <hamstah> since i installed windows i'm not able to boot on my partition, I fdisk /mbr but it doesnt fix it
[11:44] <trappist> myke: don't paste here.
[11:44] <Superbob> dont paste like that!
[11:44] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiver
[11:44] <myke> trappist
[11:44] <intelikey> myke myke myke myke myke myke myke myke ,   don't do that.
[11:44] <myke> sorry
[11:44] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse < correct
[11:45] <tOta> unknown filesystem type "cdfs"
[11:45] <cmatheson> myke: i've never seen this before... you say this is or isn't a live-cd? (i'm not familiar w/ how the live-cd handles partitions)
[11:45] <Siph0n> can someone from windows remote desktop into my ubuntu pc?
[11:45] <trat02community_> nothing with libgpod in breezy??
[11:45] <IzzyCC> Siph0n sure
[11:45] <IzzyCC> details?
[11:45] <myke> cmatheson no this is NOT a livecd
[11:45] <trat02community_> found for drapper but not for breezy
[11:45] <myke> cmatheson this IS a install
[11:45] <Superbob> tOta, can you read it using "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"
[11:45] <cmatheson> Siph0n: vnc
[11:45] <soldieruk400> hi all is there a chat sight for nomal chat installed on the unbuntu o/s?
[11:46] <Siph0n> k kool :)
[11:46] <cmatheson> myke: wow that's crazy... i don't know what's up w/ that
[11:46] <ubuntu_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:46] <ubuntu_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:46] <ubuntu_> thast what it said when i typed that
[11:46] <Superbob> i'll fix this damn error as so many ppl get it
[11:46] <myke> cmatheson  do i need to inform someone of this?
[11:46] <cmatheson> ubuntu_: you've got synaptic or something open
[11:46] <hamstah> ubuntu: another program is accessing db, wait before installing other
[11:46] <tOta> special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[11:46] <ubuntu_> yea
[11:46] <ubuntu_> oh it cant b
[11:46] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:46] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: you have to close synaptic
[11:46] <ubuntu_> word
[11:46] <cmatheson> myke: hmm, i don't now... you could try posting on the ubuntu-users mailing list
[11:46] <Superbob> tOta, can you read it using "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0"
[11:46] <stef65> Hi all!
[11:47] <myke> cmatheson ok thnx
[11:47] <myke> cmatheson so where can i see how much space i have available?
[11:47] <JairunCaloth> Such a dork sometimes....
[11:47] <Siph0n> so someone from windows cant use the remote desktop tool that comes with xp?
[11:47] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: after you've done that: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[11:47] <tOta> block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:47] <JairunCaloth> I acctually didn't have enough free space for the install
[11:47] <cmatheson> myke: df -h should be outputting accurate information, but your case does seem to be a bit more special...
[11:48] <trappist> tOta: that's normal
[11:48] <djteenbot> hey everyone
[11:48] <soldieruk400> hey lol
[11:48] <stef65> I still got trouble here getting the via xserver to run after a fresh breezy-install on a C3 mini itx... any hints??
[11:48] <tOta> but how now to eject the cd
[11:48] <djteenbot> lol
[11:48] <myke> cmatheson that is weird
[11:48] <tOta> that is the problem
[11:48] <hamstah> what are these permissions ?r--rws-w- ?
[11:48] <zandaa> hehe, I got Flash working on my 64-bit Ubuntu setup:P
[11:48] <hamstah> i have it on my /home when mounted with livecd
[11:48] <Superbob> tOta, type "sudo eject cdrom"
[11:49] <ernesto> Is msn messenger working? (because I cannot connect using gaim)
[11:49] <Superbob> as we mounted it as root we must unmount as such
[11:49] <intelikey> myke 'du -h --max-depth=1 / '
[11:49] <soldieruk400> how would i get a side bar with a big clock on my desk top ?
[11:49] <ubuntu_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 121 not upgraded.
[11:49] <ubuntu_> thats what it said at the end
[11:49] <ubuntu_> is that correct?
[11:49] <lucasvo> ernesto: I have o prblem with gaim
[11:49] <yuri> hello. I have an old kodak dvc 323 usb webcam I can't get working. Any ideas?
[11:49] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: when you did sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer?
[11:49] <ubuntu_> yea
[11:50] <myke> intelikey does that show how big each file is on a disk?
[11:50] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: so now open totem
[11:50] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: and then in the menu vide > open file
[11:50] <intelikey> myke it can yes.    man du
[11:50] <ernesto> lucasvo: my problem is that it never finish the connection. Is that your case?
[11:50] <lucasvo> ernesto: no
[11:51] <lucasvo> ernesto: alias = email..
[11:51] <ubuntu_> There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file
[11:51] <ubuntu_> thats what it says
[11:51] <ubuntu_> it wont play it
[11:51] <stef65> is there a channel-bot to ask or a faq to read on xserver-conf on CLE266 / chrome graphics?
[11:51] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: what file is it?
[11:51] <djteenbot> ya i just got this setup lastnight its pretty cool im trying to configure how to use it
[11:51] <ubuntu_> .mp3
[11:51] <djteenbot> lol
[11:51] <ubuntu_> walk the line OST
[11:51] <ubuntu_> from my external
[11:52] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[11:52] <ubuntu_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:52] <ubuntu_> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:52] <ubuntu_> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[11:52] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[11:52] <ubuntu_> Reading package lists... Done
[11:52] <ubuntu_> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:52] <ubuntu_> totem-gstreamer is already the newest version.
[11:52] <ubuntu_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 121 not upgraded.
[11:52] <siriusnova> how do i view samba shares in Gnome?
[11:52] <Superbob> nonono
[11:52] <ubuntu_> this is what it said from the terminal
[11:52] <HymnToLife> ubuntu_ > apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:52] <siriusnova> smb:// ?
[11:52] <zandaa> ubotu: tell ubuntu_ about pastebin
[11:53] <stef65> !xserver
[11:53] <ubotu> I don't know, stef65
[11:53] <lucasvo> ubugstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?
[11:53] <stef65> !xorg
[11:53] <ubotu> well, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:53] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?
[11:53] <ubuntu_> ea
[11:53] <ubuntu_> thats what it said right there
[11:53] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:53] <beelzebub1987> I love Ubuntu.
[11:53] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: what output gives it?
[11:53] <Superbob> pastebin it
[11:54] <stef65> !via
[11:54] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, stef65
[11:54] <ubuntu_> wtf, where is that?
[11:54] <j2daosh> anyone know how to sert up a sound card in here?
[11:54] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: in terminal
[11:54] <stef65> j2daosh: tried alsaconf?
[11:54] <j2daosh> nope because im a noob lol
[11:54] <j2daosh> how do i use that?
[11:54] <lucasvo> ubuntu_: pastebin.com < past the output of the command in terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:55] <stef65> j2daosh: open a terminal and 'sudo alsaconf'
[11:55] <j2daosh> that command isn't found
[11:55] <yuri> hello. I have an old kodak dvc 323 usb webcam I can't get working. Any ideas?
[11:55] <myke> im trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/461563
[11:55] <Pianomany2k> hello all
[11:56] <newbie74> got a 200mmx gateway with 64megs ram and 2 gig hard drive  kubuntu didn't work so I format and tried ubuntu still don't work,  after loggin in pc does nothing
[11:56] <jspsh> hi, can anyone tell me which rc file ubuntu execute once i log in?
[11:56] <cyphase> would my graphics work without changes if i replaced my video card?
[11:56] <j2daosh> anyone?
[11:56] <cyphase> the old and new cards are both nVidias..
[11:56] <Pianomany2k> I don't see why not, cyphase. I believe in that aspect, it's somewhat like Windows
[11:56] <gnuyen> If I have a pentium D and am running 64 bit ubuntu
[11:56] <gnuyen> what is the proper kernel?
[11:56] <gnuyen> I'm running generic, but I want a smp kernel
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> cyphase,  depends... it may.. :P what were the 2 cards?
[11:57] <gnuyen> but the only smp kernels i see say K8
[11:57] <gnuyen> which this processor is not
[11:57] <intelikey> newbie74 you might have to trim ship to get her to sail in that shallow of waters.
[11:57] <myke> im trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/461563
[11:57] <stef65> j2daosh: I'm sorry, just being a debian convert.... maybe a google search with 'ubuntu' and your sound card designation will turn up results...
[11:57] <ubuntu_> pastebin.com/461566
[11:57] <cyphase> Dr_Willis, my current card is a GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 8x
[11:57] <ubuntu_> thats what it said when i did that
[11:57] <cyphase> :)
[11:57] <cyphase> the new one, i don't know yet
[11:57] <cyphase> but it's an nVidia
[11:58] <j2daosh> ahh :) i can try
[11:58] <intelikey> newbie74 i have ran ub on a mmx 64m ram  it will work but you kinda need to know linux to get it to.
[11:58] <Pianomany2k> What does it take to get Ubuntu to recognize my Rockwell modem? It appears in the Devices window, but doesn't seem to be detected in "Network Configurations"
[11:58] <jspsh> cyphase> doesn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg reconfigure the X server after changes?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> cyphase,  that one may be new enough and related enough it wont matter.. but reconfguring your X - is rather trivial anyway :P
[11:58] <sinclair> what kind of client does gmail uses? POP?
[11:58] <Pianomany2k> yes
[11:58] <sinclair> thanks
[11:58] <chrisx1> How do i start openssh
[11:58] <ubuntu_> is that right lucasvo/
[11:58] <trappist> chrisx1: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:59] <beelzebub1987> chris
[11:59] <Superbob> sinclair, you need to enable it in gmailsettings
[11:59] <beelzebub1987> err nvm
[11:59] <jspsh> does any one know a startup scritp that i can use to mount user specific samba shares?
[11:59] <newbie74> intelikey so it's ram intense
[11:59] <myke> im trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/461563
[11:59] <gnuyen> and is there any way to test 5.1 audio channels independently in linux so I know that my sound system is configured correctly?
[11:59] <sinclair> oh, okay.. i was asking because this evolution program was asking me..
[11:59] <intelikey> newbie74 very.
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> jspsh,  ya could use some fstab entrys - but putting passwords in there is not a good idea.
[11:59] <trappist> jspsh: filesystems in /etc/fstab get mounted at boot time (unless configured not to)
[12:00] <myke> im trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/461563