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zulheylo12:19
BenCdoes udev load ide modules in initramfs, or is it something else?12:59
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KeybukKamion: I'm going to assume you'd like me to hold off the s-b uploads until Flight 2 is out? :p03:05
Kamions-b?03:05
Keybukstreamlined-boot03:07
Keybuklargely moving around stuff in rcS to put things back into the right order03:08
Kamionah - yes please, hold off03:08
Keybuk*nods* that was my plan, just wanted to check you weren't "damn it all, put it in!" :p03:08
KeybukI'll start working on getting networking to come up automatically now ;)03:09
Nafallowfm :-P03:09
Nafallobut then I have network-manager installed ;-)03:09
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BenCanyone had a chance to build the cd with -8.10 kernels yet?04:22
Kamionyes, already done04:22
BenCworking well?04:22
Kamioninstall CDs only; live CDs need to switch to simplifiedlivecd or something else as yet undetermined, in progress04:22
BenCah, the livecd is what I was wondering about, with the cloop change04:23
Kamionoh, yes, it does get past the previous failure and the cloop appears uncorrupt now04:23
Kamionon i386, anyhow04:23
BenCexcellent04:24
BenCany other issues that I need to be aware of?04:25
BenCbefore I start pulling in upstream changes for next kernel, I want to make sure I don't need to push out a quick -8.11 :)04:25
Kamioninstall CD's doing fine so far, up to the partitioner04:25
Kamionwill let you know04:25
BenCok, thanks04:25
Kamionnothing else I've heard of yet04:26
KamionBenC: new live CD spews a bunch of warnings (it's using unionfs too, which seems a bit flaky)04:56
Kamionbut it does manage to boot04:56
BenCunionfs was slightly broken for us in breezy, but mdz wanted it brought back for dapper04:58
BenCwait, I might be thinking of another fs04:58
BenCanyway, glad to hear it boots!04:58
BenCif you can get a ppc64 livecd made, I'll test it :)04:58
Kamionon its way, will be a little while yet05:00
crispinKeybuk, BenC, when I get home should I first try the new kernel, or is there more debugging you want me to do in the old one ?05:20
BenCcrispin: new kernel, I am almost sure it will fix your problem05:21
crispinBenC: cool, thanks :-)05:21
Mithrandiryeah, unionfs oops a bit too much, but works-ish.05:35
fabbioneunionfs should die hard05:51
Mithrandirit's a lot prettier as a solution for the live cd than devmapper is.05:52
jbaileyfabbione: We're going to paint "unionfs" and "xen" on your ceiling above your bed, so it's the first thing you think about in the morning.. ;)05:52
Mithrandirjust fix the bugs.05:52
fabbionejbailey: hahahah05:53
fabbioneMithrandir: i know it is... except it will OOPS on ppc05:53
fabbioneand kill your machine05:53
Mithrandirfabbione: Just Fix The Bugs.05:53
Mithrandir:-)05:53
fabbioneMithrandir: no way.. the code is crap05:53
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Mithrandirfabbione: then reengineer the code.05:54
Mithrandirthe idea is sound05:54
fabbioneMithrandir: if you like it so much you can do it :) i am sure you can and have the 31337 sk1775 for it05:56
Mithrandirfabbione: WFM. :-)05:56
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fabbionekernel05:56
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crispinKeybuk, BenC, bad news, the new kernel doesn't help07:42
BenCdamn, ok07:43
Keybuktry booting with break=premount, then do07:44
Keybukecho ide-generic > /etc/modprobe.d/test07:44
Keybukecho sata_nv >> /etc/modprobe.d/test07:44
Keybukscripts/init-premount/udev07:44
Keybukmountroot07:44
Keybuk--07:44
Keybukand see whether that works07:44
crispinKeybuk: should that be with the 'blacklist' at the front like yesterday ?07:46
Keybukoh, yes07:46
Keybukplease :)07:46
crispinok, it hung for a while saying "Waiting for root file system"07:47
crispinand where does this mountroot script live ?07:47
crispinoh, and I still get this "dev 0 not supported, ignoring" message07:48
Kamion'. conf/initramfs.conf; . scripts/functions; . scripts/$BOOT' should give you the mountroot function07:49
crispinKamion: hi! and thanks07:49
Keybukhow long a while?07:49
Kamionhey, how goes07:49
crispinKeybuk: about 15-20 seconds07:50
Keybukk..07:50
crispinmountroot now says "ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell"07:50
Keybukyeah, thought it would07:50
Keybukcan you cat /proc/modules07:50
crispinKamion: yeah, good, we should meet for a drink sometime07:50
crispinKeybuk: kde_cd / cdrom / generic / amd74xx / sata_sil / libata / scsi_mod / fbcon / tileblit / font / bitblit / softcursor / capability / commoncap07:51
Keybukright07:52
KeybukBenC: it definitely looks like sata_sil is bust to me07:52
crispinerr.. ide_cd obviously :-)07:52
BenCwas this working before?07:53
crispinyep, breezy with same setup is perfect07:53
BenCsata_sil still?07:53
BenCis this a PATA drive, or SATA drive?07:54
Kamioncrispin: absolutely07:54
crispinI believe so, the lsmod and dmesg output are in the bug07:54
crispinBenC: 160Gb SATA drive hanging off the SATA pci card, and 2 cdrom drives hanging off an old-school IDE interface on the m'board07:55
BenClet me get the bug number for reference again07:55
crispin2080707:56
crispinKeybuk: oh, that reminds me, sorry about that comment I made on the bug, I hadn't really made my situation clear07:56
KeybukBenC: I have another user with exactly the same problem as crispin08:10
Keybuksata_sil, same error message, etc.08:10
crispinI've just copied the dmesg output, and attached it to the bug08:11
crispin(the output after the scripts/init-premount/udev command)08:11
Keybukright08:11
crispinthat was a slow and boring task :-(08:12
Keybukheh08:12
crispinoh, you don't get the numbers before each line, but I'm sure you live without the :-)08:13
crispin*them08:13
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KeybukBenC: mehdi has the same bug as crispin08:15
BenChowdy08:16
BenCmehdi, crispin: what kernel flavor are you guys using?08:18
BenCand can you guys build kernels, or would you rather I build something for you?08:19
mehdihi08:20
crispinBenC: the -686, I can build kernels08:20
crispinargh, no, this box is a -k7 machine08:20
BenCI'm going to build a sata_sil.ko for you to test08:22
BenCit reverts some changes that came from libata git, which basically implemented sata_silo local irq handler, as opposed to the libata generic one08:23
mehdii can build kernel if you want08:24
mehdii already have build my own 2.6.15-6-k708:24
mehdito have a working kernel08:24
mehdibecause since this version the ubuntu kernel don't boot on my box08:24
mehdiok08:25
BenCso -6-k7 worked for you, and -7 and -8 broke?08:26
BenCMODPOST takes so long :/08:28
BenChttp://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/sata_sil.ko08:33
BenCthat's for 2.6.15-8.k708:33
BenC-8-k708:33
BenCreplace /lib/modules/2.6.15-8-k7/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.ko with that one08:34
BenCrerun depmod -a08:34
BenCand reboot, let me know if it works08:34
BenCoh wait08:34
crispinhow about the initrd ?08:34
BenCbefore reboot, run "update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.15-8-k7"08:34
mehdiok i just replace th existant one ?08:35
mehdiok08:35
crispinBenC: bingo! it boots!08:37
crispinnow I just need to get my network card started on boot ....08:42
BenCcrispin: sweet!08:44
BenCecho "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces08:44
crispinyeah, just done that :-)08:44
crispinBenC: thanks very much for such a speedy fix08:44
zulhah hah..BenC broke it...;)08:45
BenCno problem08:45
crispinheh :-)08:45
BenCzul: nah, jgarzik broke it, but I can't tell him that because I merged code that wasn't meant for wide spread use :)08:45
crispinnow to see whether the clock runs fast, and whether I can unmount my Nokia 770 without errors :-)08:46
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mehdi_i'am back08:47
BenCmedhi: work I assume?08:47
crispinBenC: at least you now know the code you merged doesn't work in all cases :-)08:47
mehdi_no can you give me the path where i must copy le modules ?08:48
BenCyou have to install linux-image-2.6.15-8-k7 first08:48
zulBenC: hehe08:48
BenCthen copy it to /lib/modules/2.6.15-8-k7/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.ko08:49
BenCand run "update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.15-8-k7"08:49
mehdi_it work08:54
BenCexcellent, thank you both for testing08:55
BenCnext kernel will have this code, so you are safe to upgrade08:55
mehdi_ok thank you very much08:55
mehdi_i have one question why the acx modules was been removed in the 2.6.15 series ?09:10
mehdi_it's maybe not the good channel to awser this ?09:10
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BenCthey are there09:19
BenCany ppc64 live cd's yet?09:29
BenCalso, if anyone has info on the unionfs oopses I can look into that aswell09:29
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KamionBenC: no, need help from lamont on powerpc09:32
BenCwhat's up with ppc?09:32
Kamioninitramfs generation complication09:34
Kamionwe need to get the livefs build process to generate two initramfses, not just one like on all the other arches09:34
BenC32-bit vs 64-bit?09:34
Kamionright09:35
BenCis the livecd build system different from breezy now?09:35
Kamionyes, we've switched to SimplifiedLiveCD09:36
Kamionit turned out to be prohibitively difficult to hack the existing casper to support d-i running on initramfs09:36
BenCis there no way to include both sets of modules in one initramfs?09:36
Kamiondude, it'll be huge - the powerpc bootloader already has size problems09:36
BenCah, true, most of the initramfs is modules09:37
Kamionwe shipped two separate initrds for the breezy powerpc live CD too - it's fine09:37
Kamionactually easier that way09:37
Kamion(imo)09:37
BenCdo you include a lot of ide stuff in the initramfs?09:37
BenCmost of the pmac ide drivers are built-in to the kernel09:38
Kamionthat's up to Mithrandir nowadays :)09:38
Kamionit just uses initramfs-tools now09:38
Kamionwith magic casper hooks09:38
Kamionso in fact I guess it's up to Adam09:38
BenCwhat's the schedule for flight 2 look like now?09:39
Kamion"before Kamion goes to sleep"09:40
Kamion(hopefully)09:40
Kamionwhen exactly I go to sleep is still up for debate09:40
jbaileyKamion: What's your record for total-time-awake so far? =)09:48
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crispinBenC: If I am replying to a bug in the NEEDINFO case, how do I get it out of that state ? Is the "Accept bug" option (this is the clock too fast bug)11:24
Nafallocrispin: the assigne will change the state when he doesn't need more info to fix the bug basically :-)11:27
BenCI already did it, I though11:28
BenCchanged it to pending upload11:28
BenCyeah, 20807, pending upload11:28
crispinBenC: this is 11304 I'll just comment and leave it then11:29
BenCah, ok11:31
BenCyeah there was two bugs, one was fixed (double-speed), the other I cannot reproduce (fast)11:32
BenCcrispin: you have this bug?11:33
crispinyep11:33
BenCcrispin: if so, can you come in #ubuntu-kernel?11:33
crispinsure11:33

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