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BenCdown to 233, better than I thought12:05
AcidPilsgrats12:05
BenCalmost 150 bugs12:05
BenCwell, most were already fixed in breezy, a lot of others were fixed simply because we have 2.6.15 (containing patches needed)12:06
BenCI did fix 30 or so in -8.10 though12:06
AcidPilsi would be happy if could fix this stupid segfault in my own code :(12:09
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zulheylo12:20
zulmjg59: i dont get a blacklight12:20
dilingerbah12:28
dilingerthe sunfire i sent davem got banged up pretty good in transit12:28
dilingermaybe i shouldn't have done UPS ground :/12:28
jbaileydilinger: Ugh.12:30
mjg59zul: Ok, cool12:39
mjg59zul: What BIOS version do you have?12:39
zuluh...good question im on my laptop right now12:40
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mjg59zul: Heh :) dmidecode might tell you, if you're lucky12:48
zulA0312:49
mjg59Ah, ok12:59
mjg59A02 seems to work, weirdly12:59
zulbah..01:02
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zuloh hockey game..02:59
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infinityBenC : No kernel yet?03:17
BenCdoing the dpkg-buildpackage now03:17
infinitySee, I completely ignored my alarm clock and slept in, just to give you more time. :)03:18
BenCthanks, you're so considerate :)03:18
infinityI expect payment in cows.03:19
BenCone steer, bull, cow or heffer?03:19
infinityAs long as it's dead and tastes good.03:21
BenCah, a managable bug list03:24
BenCactive bugs, 6803:24
infinityWow.  Do mine next!03:26
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-8.10uploaded (The "Fabio does Dallas" release)
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-8.10 uploaded (The "Fabio does Dallas" release)
mgalvinsorry to be annoying, but I am starting to write a review of flight 2, do we have an ETA of some kind? (today || end of the week)?03:44
infinity"Soon"03:45
mjg59infinity: So, uh03:48
mjg59infinity: Is our ltmodem linked on boot like our fglrx and nvidia?03:48
zulfabio does dallas? ewww..03:52
BenCgo rent the full length video and enjoy!03:53
infinitymjg59 : Yes.03:56
mjg59infinity: That's a relief03:56
infinityBenC : -server-bigiron?03:56
mjg59Obvious GPL violation otherwise03:56
mjg59(They include Linux serial code)03:56
BenCinfinity: -server and -server-bigiron03:56
infinityyes.  Bug.  -bigiron? :)03:57
infinitymjg59 : Yeah, they have it in a seperate object, and we link them on boot.03:57
zulBenC: i laid the groundwork for dbg in my development tree03:57
BenCcool03:58
zuljust have to figure out the post-install crap03:58
infinitys/Bug/But/03:58
BenCinfinity: bug?03:58
BenCoh, heh03:58
BenCwas agreed upon by several in #ubuntu-devel03:59
BenCelmo, Kamion, and a few others03:59
BenCbigiron being a word that only people who actually know what it is would consider installing the kernel03:59
infinityOh, sure, I don't get credit for the vga16fb change. :)03:59
BenCshit, I meant to change that before finalizing03:59
BenCsorry04:00
infinity(Like I care)04:00
mjg59I did an identical change04:00
mjg59I claim copyright04:00
BenCwell, if it's broken, I can't put blame on you now :)04:00
=== infinity removes your credit for the acx firmware changes out of spite
BenClol04:00
mjg59infinity: I think Suse might be shipping GPL-violating ltmodem04:01
infinityI'm SHOCKED.04:01
zul;ater04:03
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BenCmjg59: FYI I did a hibernate on my P4 with intel IDE, and it worked fine05:17
BenCusb and and wireless card came back up05:17
infinityBenC : -8.10 is >= -rc5, right?05:28
infinityOh, rc5 is old, we must be caught up to that.05:32
BenCno, -8.10 is -rc505:37
BenClinus was gone for a week, and just got back05:37
BenChe did a lot of merging yesterday, but it was too much for me to pull and be able to get -8.10 out for flight 2 on time05:37
infinityWell, I did say ">=", not ">"05:38
infinitySo, we're on the same page.05:38
BenCoh, missed that05:38
infinityWoo, first attempt at compiling the new ATI driver fails MISERABLY.05:41
infinityGo ATI.05:41
infinity... because they repacked the panel sources to exclude a header it needs...05:47
infinityW... T... F...05:47
infinityNo other changes, except removing the header.05:47
infinityHATE.05:47
BenClol05:55
fabbionemorning guys05:56
BenChey fabbione05:56
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infinityOO, amd64 kernels are ready.05:57
fabbionewoo new crack05:57
BenCamd64 always wins the first-build race05:58
fabbioneBenC: not always :)05:58
fabbionethere were times where sparc was winning :)05:58
infinityWell, i386 has too many flavours.05:59
BenCsparc only builds 2 kernels, it isn't allowed to compete yet :)05:59
fabbioneBenC: nah.. i was prebuilding the pkgs and made them enter the archive 5 minutes after the source :)05:59
BenClol05:59
infinityCHEATING.06:00
fabbioneinfinity: no.. they were properly sbuilded06:00
fabbioneyou know.. that thing called pre-upload build test06:01
BenCthey had premature access to the source though :)06:01
infinityCHEATING.06:01
infinityAnd powerpc and i386 are in a dead heat for second place, both building packages right now..06:02
infinityia64, as always, will be dead last (well, for the DC arches... I'm not sure where sparc and hppa fit in)06:02
fabbioneinfinity: i would have done the same if we had m68k :)06:02
BenCno, hppa is dead last06:03
infinitym68k has too many subarches to play this game fairly.06:03
infinitySlowest hardware in Debian, but we build more kernels than anyone else.06:03
fabbioneinfinity: distcc :)06:04
infinityIf it were up to me, we'd drop all "old m68k" support, except for Amiga and Atari, and concentrate on ColdFire targets.06:04
fabbionelet's make an m68k cluster06:04
BenCm68k is worse than i386 cpu's...I bet we could push min cpu for ia32 to 586 before debian got rid of m68k :)06:04
infinityWho seriously wants to run a modern OS on a 68k Mac anyway?06:04
infinityBenC : MY Amiga goes toe-to-toe with My Pentium 233MMX, so that seems fair.06:04
infinitys/My/my/  ... Wow, I've been Microsofted.06:05
fabbioneahaa06:05
infinityAnyhow, if I can shoehorn ColdFire support into Debian's toolchain, m68k could become a reality for Ubuntu in microbuntu.06:06
infinityLots (and LOTS) of Linux/Coldfire projects out there right now in the embedded world.06:06
fabbioneinfinity: what's Coldfire?06:07
infinityColdFire == Newage m68k.06:07
BenCyeah, I have some Crestron equipment that I'd love to hack on06:07
infinityDropped a few "useless instructions", added a few new ones (hardware RNG and crypto accel, mostly), and bumped the speed a bit.06:07
BenCdoes coldfire have mmu?06:08
infinityYeahp.06:08
infinityWell, some do.  Same at the oldskool m68k line, you can get them with and without MMU.06:08
BenCI'd love to have ubuntu boot on my crestron touchscreen RF remove :)06:08
infinityObviously, we'd target the MMU varienty.  The 68knommu target is much less interesting to Ubuntu.06:08
BenC*remote06:09
infinityThe fastest ColdFires look to be on par with mid-range ARM, so it's no slouch.06:09
infinityNot "fast", but "fast enough".06:09
BenCit's got 32Megs of ram and 8megs of flash, plenty enough for OOo, firefox, and all of gnome06:10
infinity(And very, very low power, hence why it's being used places where people are saying no to ARM)06:10
infinityOh, hey, LRM built.  That can't be right.06:10
infinityIt surely MUST be broken.06:10
=== infinity oozes confidence.
BenCso lrm is uploaded?06:17
infinityNah.  Testing on machines here to make sure I didn't bugger it.06:18
infinityBut I already uploaded the .orig.tar.gz to chinstrap, so I can fire off the rest rapidly when the kernel headers get NEWed.06:18
infinityThat 80 meg upload is hell on my connection.06:19
BenCI have linux-meta ready06:20
infinityDid you actually bump the ABI this time? :P06:21
infinity(Last time it was a changelog entry with no debian/rules change..)06:21
BenCyes :P06:23
infinityHey, someone has to keep you kernel genius types from getting a big head. :)06:24
BenCmy wife is good at stiffling my ego06:24
infinityIf by "stifling your ego", you mean "crushing your soul", mine's pretty good at that too.06:25
infinityIs hppa still gcc-3.4 in this upload (and still the only gcc-3.4 arch)?06:25
BenCyeah06:26
infinityHrm.06:26
infinityCan I reliably extract the compiler from /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-$(ABI)/Makefile or something, rather than hardcoding it in each LRM upload?06:27
BenCnah06:27
BenCbut if you used the kernel build system like a good module build, it would automatically do all this for you :)06:28
infinitySome LRM modules do, not all.06:28
infinitymadwifi, for instance, is well-behaved.06:30
infinityIf it wasn't for that little ath_hal bit, I'm sure it would find its way into the main tree.06:30
=== infinity gets out and pushes his amd64 to build faster.
infinityBenC : -7.9 was also -rc5, yes?06:34
infinity(or close enough)?06:34
BenCclose06:34
infinityKay.  I'm testing some patches that were for "-rc5 and over", but I can't be bothered snagging the new kernels from the buildds to test...06:35
BenCsweet, the big three are done06:35
infinitySpecifically, stuff targetted at the new vm_insert_page() stuff.06:36
BenCanything new from nvidia for that?06:36
infinityYeah.  Which is what I'm testing. :)06:36
BenCI keep seeing WARN_ON()'s06:36
BenCah, cool06:36
infinitySometime, I need to sit down and backport some of these changes to the -legacy driver...06:38
infinityNot that -legacy doesn't work, but I suspect it's getting flakier and flakier with each kernel release.06:38
fabbioneinfinity: i assume we will have to drop it sooner or later06:39
fabbioneat a certain point it won't build anymore06:39
infinityUpstream has committed to supporting it.06:40
infinityzander keeps releasing patches for it.06:40
infinityJust not as many as he does for the new driver.06:40
infinitySo, it builds, it works, it's just not as loved.06:41
fabbioneok06:41
fabbionehmm Kamion was mentioning a udeb pkg that does the default kernel selection in d-i06:45
fabbionebut i can't remember which one it is06:45
fabbioneah there it is06:45
fabbionebase-installer06:45
infinityOkay, NVIDIA stuff (old and new) works, now to test fglrx... Kiss the laptop goodbye.06:46
infinity(fglrx will porbably still OOPS, from what I understand... ATI sucks)06:47
infinityBenC : When do you expect 2.6.15 to be final?06:47
infinityBenC : ATI "doesn't support unreleased kernels" like NVIDIA does.06:47
fabbioneinfinity: i am pretty sure .15 is not too far from now06:47
infinityGood.  Then maybe the next fglrx release will stop sucking.06:48
infinityOh well, off to test this one anyway.06:48
fabbione    Linux v2.6.15-rc506:48
fabbione06:48
fabbione    Hey, for no other reason than the fact that I'll be off-line for a06:48
fabbione    week.06:48
fabbione06:48
fabbione    Of course, I could force everybody to just use git (and when I'm emperor06:48
fabbione    of the world, don't think I won't!), but it seems some people want to06:48
fabbione    just test official releases.  Even if they are just -rc's.06:48
fabbione06:48
fabbione    By the time I'm back, Andrew will have fixed all my bugs, and I'll06:48
fabbione    release it as 2.6.15 and take all the credit.06:48
fabbione06:48
fabbione    Mwahahahaaa06:48
fabbione06:48
fabbione    Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>06:48
infinityWhat day was that?06:49
fabbioneDate:   Sat Dec 3 21:10:42 2005 -080006:49
infinityOkay, so triple his "one week" estimate, and that gives us a final release in 11 days or so.06:49
infinityNot too bad.06:49
BenCI think it will be a new years release06:50
BenCchristmas coming up, he wont be getting a lot done06:50
infinityJust cause Linux like flash and show?06:51
infinitys/Linux/Linus/06:51
=== infinity remembers the "greased turkey" release.
infinityWhich conjured up all sorts of images I didn't want.06:51
infinityTHANKS LINUS.06:51
BenCyeah, holiday releases are always good :)06:51
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fabbionenight Ben07:03
infinityBenC : Wait!07:36
infinityMeh, too late, I guess.07:36
fabbioneinfinity: anything i can do?08:00
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infinityfabbione : No, I just wanted him to put his linux-meta changes somewhere, so I could upload them when the kernels are NEWed.08:30
infinityI assume he changed stuff for the -server rename, etc, and didn't want to duplicate the effort.08:30
fabbioneinfinity: ah ok08:31
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CataEnryhi all12:46
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BenClinux-meta uploaded, for the interested01:58
BenCfabbione: ping01:59
jbaileyBenC: Hey - saw the unix.ko builtin in the changelog.  I'm curious why you built it in, we loaded it in the initramfs.01:59
fabbioneBenC: pong02:00
fabbioneBenC: Adam did upload linux-meta too02:00
BenCjbailey: Keybuk/Kamion said to build it in02:00
BenChe did?02:00
fabbioneyes02:00
BenCoh well, collision :)02:00
Kamionjbailey: everything was loading it unconditionally - good sign that it should be built-in02:00
fabbioneBenC: what can i do for you?02:01
jbaileyKamion: Except for larger kernels making building floppies and such suck a little bit more.02:01
BenCfabbione: vtun is up if you want to push a kernel build02:01
Kamionyeah, well I didn't really mind either way; I certainly see your argument02:01
fabbioneBenC: i am build gcj-4.1 now to track down the gcc (as) segfault02:01
fabbioneBenC: i noticed that the tunnel problems happen my side when the tunnel dies...02:02
KamionI didn't have any objections to building it in, but I don't think I said to build it in :)02:02
fabbioneso i could restart it easily02:02
BenCfabbione: ah, didn't notice you were on there :)02:02
fabbioneBenC: eheheh i can sneak everywhere :P02:02
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fabbionebut vtun has a bug on the server side and doesn't ifconfig down / up when the tunnel restarts.. so it hangs02:02
fabbioneif i stop the server, ifconfig down, start the server, everything is cool02:03
BenCKamion: slight exageration on my part to avoid getting blamed :)02:03
fabbioneBenC: eheh :)02:03
jbaileyKamion, BenC: It's not a big deal, since it's small.  I'm occasionally hacking on floppy support for d-i in Debian.  Having small kernels is really important. =)02:03
BenCjbailey: does d-i itself need unix.ko?02:03
fabbioneBenC: did you see the mail from Claire?02:04
BenCnot yet02:04
fabbioneBenC: ok02:04
fabbionelet me know if you want to answer or should I02:04
fabbioneboth ways work for me02:04
jbaileyBenC: Probably.  I don't think I need it for the bit where I get the user to put in a new floppy into the drive and hit enter to load stuff off of it, though.02:04
BenCfabbione: oh yeah, got that02:04
BenCwas going to email him this morning02:04
jbaileyBenC: That's Debian stuff mind you - I don't know that we care about floppy installs in Ubuntu.02:04
fabbioneBenC: ok perfect02:05
KamionBenC: yes, we need unix.ko, but having it built-in is fine too02:05
Kamioni.e. we need the feature, not necessarily the module02:05
Kamionfloppy installs in Ubuntu have never worked yet, but they'd be really nice to do at *some* point02:05
BenCwell, I _had_ to switch to ide-core being built-in, so adding unix was a small increase compared02:05
jbaileyKamion: Okay.  Honestly, I had assumed we would never care here.02:06
BenCotherwise it would have been a big todo exporting the kernel command_line out to the ide-core modules02:06
jbaileyKamion: I still maintain that as long as we include openoffice in the default install, we clearly don't care about any machine older than about 5 years. =)02:06
jbailey(And at that, they were high end machines 5 years ago)02:07
BenCI will never ever ever try to do a floppy install for as long as I live02:07
BenChow long has x86 been able to boot from floppy?02:09
BenCerr, cdrom02:09
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fabbioneat least 5 years02:09
fabbioneactually... 702:09
BenCwin95 install could be booted from cdrom, couldn't it?02:10
fabbioneyup02:10
MithrandirBenC: nt4 could boot off CD02:10
KamionI still get requests *shrug*02:10
jbaileyMithrandir: SCSI Cdrom, yes.02:10
BenCthe original nt4 installs I did couldn't02:10
jbaileyMithrandir: Not the first IDEs02:10
Kamionfrom owners of laptops that don't boot properly off CD-ROM02:10
Mithrandirjbailey: sure, but SCSI is teh way.02:11
Kamionthe laptop can run Ubuntu fine once it's installed, it's just that the BIOS is fucked02:11
fabbioneKamion: point them to netboot :)02:11
BenCI don't think I own a machine with a floppy anymore02:11
Kamionfabbione: I do, but seriously dude, that's stupid and tedious for laptops02:11
jbaileyMithrandir: SCSI is an indiciation that you came from the sabdfl "I have too much money" school of business. =)02:11
BenCexcept my i2k, but I'd rip it out if I could02:11
MithrandirI think I first booted off CDROMs back before there were IDE cdroms.02:11
Kamionor USB sticks, but they can't all boot from USB either02:11
Mithrandirjbailey: my father worked at the university and brought all the new and shiny stuff home to play with^W^Wtest.02:11
Kamionat the moment they have to use Smart Boot Manager which apparently is some kind of floppy->CD bootstrap weirdness02:12
fabbioneKamion: i install my laptops with netboot... what's wrong with it?02:12
jbaileyMithrandir: Yeah, I remember that from when my father owned the first computer store in the lowermainland02:12
Kamionfabbione: not everybody is you02:12
fabbioneKamion: i know.. and nobody will ever wish that :)02:12
jbaileyMithrandir: All sorts of crazy new shit.  Like 300 baud modems when all the cool kids had 110. =)02:12
Kamionfabbione: not everybody has a convenient TFTP/DHCP setup on another machine, for one ...02:12
jbaileyfabbione: Or like me, who does, but can't be bothered to tweak his linksys to ignore a particular host.02:13
fabbionejbailey: that's because you are lazy :)02:13
BenCmy ssh sessions on this satellite connection feel like 300 baud02:13
jbaileyfabbione: I'm not lazy enough, clearly.02:13
jbaileyfabbione: This is something I'm working on.02:13
fabbionejbailey: you should just plug 2 ethernets in one machine and use it as a gw02:13
fabbioneBenC: i feel your pain!02:14
jbaileyfabbione: Nah.  What I should do is hack the wireless box and run my tftp server on it directly.02:14
jbaileyfabbione: But since even the new linksys "L" boxes are crippled somewhat, I think I'll wait for another hobbiest hacking box.02:14
BenCI wonder if I could turn dialup back on and have the linksys route my ssh traffic over that02:14
BenCdialup was 5 times less lag than this dialup02:14
BenCjbailey: get wrt54g(s)02:16
jbaileyThey don't sell the s's anymore, apparently.02:16
BenCI have my two running dd-wrt, and 7db atennas, and they work great02:16
BenCyeah, they do actually, at walmart02:16
jbaileyEh, really?02:16
BenCjust don't get v502:16
BenCv4 is ok02:16
jbaileyBenC: I'll go look at my local store, otherwise can I get you to pick one up next time you're at walmart and I'll buy it off of you?02:17
BenCsure02:17
jbaileywalmart probably has such a long stock line that they just haven't run out yet.02:17
BenCyeah, I think that is the case02:17
jbaileyI need to head downtown today anyway at some point.  I'll check future shop.02:17
BenCg or gs, it's $50 and $8002:17
BenC?02:18
jbailey'cause yeah  The gs had 32mb of ram, IIRC?02:18
jbaileyBenC: http://www.futureshop.ca/ is a large computer chain here.02:18
BenCdon't think so02:18
BenCjust had the speed boost02:18
BenCv5 only has 4megs02:18
jbaileyMind you, I should probably go support the only union walmart in qubec. =)02:18
BenCthat's why they can't be hacked on02:18
BenClol02:18
jbaileyHmm02:21
jbaileyI forgot that it's decemeber.  Can't buy anything for myself - house rules.02:22
fabbionespeaking of which02:27
fabbionei need a Gigabit switch02:27
BenCwho is going to be required to go to the distro sprint, all of the distro team?02:31
BenCI was already planning a World Series of Power Circuit tournament that was on Feb 7 :/02:31
BenCs/Power/Poker/02:32
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zulheylo02:34
fabbioneBenC: yes.. all of the distro team02:34
fabbionethat would include you as well02:34
jbaileyNote to BenC: If you have something important to you to do.  Book it early. =)02:37
jbaileyThat way at least you can fall back on the "But I paid for this already" argument.  I don't know how well it works, mind you, but...02:37
BenCit's already booked, I have a reservation with 3 other guys who are going to 02:37
BenCtournament fee paid02:38
mjg59When/where is the distro sprint?02:41
jbaileyYeah, make sure you note these in your staffcalendar.02:41
jbaileymjg59: End of January, in the UK.02:41
jbaileymjg59: I think we didn't want you to have to leave your army or something. =)02:41
mjg59Haha02:42
mjg59Except I'm in New Zealand02:42
zulwhich tournament BenC?02:42
mjg59You guys all suck02:42
BenCzul: World Series of Poker Circuit even in Harrah's in Atlantic City02:42
zulcool...im totally in the wrong area02:43
BenCmjg59: you looked at #18164 at all?02:43
jbaileymjg59: New Zealand?  WTH are you down there?02:43
Kamionjbailey: better class of sheep02:43
jbaileymjg59: Haven't you seen from the Canonical folks what happens when you stand upside down for too long?02:43
mjg59LCA02:43
mjg59BenC: Yeah, Linux hates HPs02:44
mjg59It's worse on the nx6125 for some reason02:44
mjg59Haven't figured out if it's Linux or the BIOS02:44
mjg59I'll give it a kick at some point02:44
mjg59(Can somebody please check whether suspend is broken for them on x86 and work out why? I still don't have time, and won't until some time next year)02:45
BenCthe kernel.org bug report shows they are getting acpi thermal events from hw, just that they are getting out to userspace02:45
BenCmjg59: I did /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh last night on my P4, and it worked02:45
mjg59BenC: Hibernate is fine, it's suspend that's broken02:46
mjg59BenC: Rather, the kernel bug shows that the DSDT is being executed, but not that stuff is getting to the higher kernel levels. Sigh.02:47
mjg59That'll be fun to track down02:48
mjg59Actually, it might not be too bad02:49
mjg59Sprinkle some printks through it, see where it's dropping them02:49
BenCmjg59: how do I force suspend?02:50
mjg59BenC: /etc/acpi/sleep.sh02:51
mjg59Might need to enable it in /etc/default/acpi-support first02:51
BenChow are others seeing it fail?02:59
BenCmine didn't really do much, except corrupt my vga, and if up/down my network interface03:00
BenCmjg59: the odd thing about that bug is that if they run acpi -t, it gets events, so to me it sounds like a kernel bug03:02
mjg59BenC: Machine hangs when it should go to sleep03:03
mjg59BenC: acpi -t executes further DSDT code03:03
BenCsetting acpi sleep to ram didn't work for me it seems03:04
BenCacpi standby worked03:04
BenCneither froze the machine though03:04
BenCsuspend to mem goes down (disables everything, I can see in dmesg), but comes right back up03:07
BenChow do I enable suspend to disk?03:08
mjg59That's what hibernate does03:08
BenCok03:09
BenCwell, I didn't freeze up, -8.10-686 kernel03:09
BenCstandby fixed my vga console too03:10
mjg59Well, if it didn't actually sleep, then it's not going through the codepath that's failing03:10
BenChow can I debug why it didn't sleep?03:10
BenCmaybe I need to build a acpi debug enabled kernel03:10
mjg59dmesg ought to give a hint03:11
BenCsays nothing03:12
BenCafter the last IRQ disable, it starts enabling irqs/devices again03:12
mjg59Right03:13
mjg59What does /sys/power/state look like?03:13
BenC"standby disk", so I guess I don't have suspend to mem support03:13
BenCmy G4 does have suspend to mem03:13
BenCguess I can give it a try03:13
BenCah, but that's isn't acpi, so probably pointles03:14
infinityBenC : Sorry for the collision, I wasn't sure when you were coming back.03:19
BenCno problem03:19
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infinitymjg59 : Say, when do I get my screen-lock (screen close) button working again?03:22
mjg59infinity: Oh, soon03:24
AcidPilshi04:06
AcidPilsfinally my acx module is working, but i dont know why :o04:06
BenCdid you upgrade to -8?04:06
AcidPilsnope :o04:07
BenCheh, it may break again, but it may also work better :)04:07
BenCcan you install linux-restricted-modules and new linux-image-2.6.15-8?04:07
AcidPilsnow i just have to get a link to my ap...04:07
BenCbrand new acx module (acx, not acx_usb or acx_pci), and new firmware04:07
AcidPils*install*04:08
infinityI assume the acx module exports all the right magic for udev to handle hot/coldplugging for every known device?04:12
AcidPils<- get some beer and then reboot :o04:13
BenCit loads the filenames from acx/default/ by default04:13
BenCtries taicx1XXc%02x first (c == combined)04:14
BenCfalls back to loading tiacx1XX and tiac1XXrYY as seperate bins04:14
BenCusb is always tiacx100usb04:15
BenCby default it looks in acx/default/, but with firmware_ver module parm, it will replace default with whatever version you pass04:15
BenCI hope udev can handle relative paths names for firmware files04:16
BenCmjg59: 20894 claims suspend is working with -8.10, 04:17
mjg59BenC: That's hibernate again04:18
BenCthe report says suspend to disk and mem04:18
mjg59Hmm04:18
mjg59Maybe it's fixed, then04:18
BenCI asked for confirmation that it works for mem too04:19
AcidPilshmm.. it works, exept for the missing link, but this is pebcak i think 04:23
AcidPilsexcept04:23
BenCzul: ping04:28
BenCmissing link?04:28
AcidPilslink is ok now, but still no ip04:29
AcidPilsLink Quality=38/10004:29
BenClink speed?04:30
AcidPils54mbit04:33
AcidPilsiwconfig output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/569604:34
jbaileyBenC: BTW, I haven't been tracking carefully, but I haven't had X crashes in a few days I think.04:34
AcidPilsoh, theres a key :o04:34
jbaileyBenC: I only reliased it because of gnome-terminal breaking.  I hadn't been as careful making sure I  saved every few seconds before.04:35
BenCjbailey: ooh, nice04:35
AcidPilsok, key wasnt the problem04:35
BenCyour signal level is really low04:36
AcidPilsBenC: i know, but it worked already... two walls and a m ceiling04:37
AcidPilsi am happy that there is a link at all ;)04:37
BenCyeah, it's progress :)04:37
zulBenC: pong04:42
BenCzul: 10834, you claimed to have it fixed in your git04:43
zulis that the acpi one? i had to revert it i was going to look at it tonight..04:44
BenCok04:55
siretartAcidPils: nice essid ('default')05:00
AcidPilsi like it ;)05:01
jbaileyFar better than "linksys"05:03
jbaileyThat just conflicts with the neighbours. =05:03
jbailey)05:03
AcidPils*g*05:04
AcidPilsmy neighbours dont know what wlan is ;)05:04
zulBenC: basically its an annoying printk that i have to shutup05:08
zulbut the real fix is to get the motherboard infomration and add it to asus_acpi.c05:09
siretartAcidPils: I don't know much about acx, but line 002 from your iwconfig output looks suspicous05:18
siretartAcidPils: try it without encryption05:19
AcidPilssiretart: i did it already, nothing changes05:20
siretartAcidPils: I think that  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 should show your BSSID of your AP05:23
AcidPilssiretart: yes05:23
AcidPilsAn address equal to 00:00:00:00:00:00 means that the card failed to associate with an Access Point (most likely a configuration issue)05:24
siretartso try without encryption. one point less that can go wrong05:25
AcidPilsi have mn+05:26
AcidPilsi have no enc atm05:26
siretartyour iwconfig out shows that. hm05:26
AcidPilsthats an old one05:26
AcidPilswith encryption05:27
siretartok05:27
AcidPilshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5697 <-- without its the same05:27
AcidPilstime to get some food brb05:28
siretartEncryption key:1234-5678-91? looks weird.05:29
AcidPilssiretart: that was a test, simpel key so no typos ;)05:40
AcidPilsi set iwconfig wlan0 key off but still no ap :(05:41
BenCAcidPils: what firmware got loaded?05:54
BenCyou may need a different version05:54
BenClook in /lib/firmware/2.6.15-8-686/acx/05:54
BenCor whatever your kernel version is05:55
BenCin there is a readme that shows what firmware versions are available for your acx111 pci05:55
BenCso you can try doing "rmmod acx; modprobe acx firmware_ver=X.Y.X.B" to load different firmware05:56
AcidPils2.3.1.31 is loaded05:56
AcidPilsi try anotherone05:56
BenCok, try older ones then05:56
BenCif you find that an older one works, shoot me your lspci -vvn for the device05:57
AcidPilshmm, when i use 1.2.0.30 i get some feedback06:06
AcidPilswlan0: association FAILED: peer sent response code 10 (Cannot support all requested capabilities in Capability Information field)06:06
AcidPilswhen i make ifup wlan006:06
BenCglad to hear it's actually working...the firmware naming/ver code I added without testing :)06:08
BenCthe firmware loading that is06:08
AcidPils*g*06:08
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fabbioneBenC: ping?06:28
BenCfabbione: pong06:28
fabbione[  119.181016]  NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 state recovery d06:28
fabbioneirectory06:28
fabbione[  119.181225]  NFSD: recovery directory /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery doesn't exist06:28
fabbione[  119.181229]  NFSD: starting 90-second grace period06:28
fabbionedid we switch to nfs4 by default?06:29
fabbionei also need to figure how to get a bigger buffer for dmesg06:29
BenCpretty sure I didn't change any of that from breezy, but it's possible06:29
fabbionei can barely see 1/4 of what's in there with this box06:29
BenCkern.log06:29
fabbionei like dmesg better :)06:30
BenCnfsd is userspace nfsd, isn't it?06:30
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fabbionenope06:32
fabbionekernel-server06:32
fabbionei am pretty sure this message is new06:33
fabbionesince i switched to .15 i did check dmesg everytime06:33
fabbioneand i am fairly confident it was not there in -7-06:33
fabbionebut i can check again.. not just now06:33
mjg59BenC: Ok, suspend seems to be fixed06:35
mjg59Just had another confirmation06:35
mjg59Oh, and Alan Cox just posted another set of PATA patches for libata06:35
mjg59We need to make some sort of decision on whether to go with that or not (my suspicion is that we should wait until Dapper+1)06:36
BenCyeah, we need to come up with some sort of upgrade plan06:48
zulfabbione: dmesg -s works06:51
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zuldamn it my $40 earphones broke09:02
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CataEnryhi all09:56
zullater10:08
BenCare pctel modems supported by linux-restricted-modules?10:11
mjg59No10:19
mjg59At least, I don't think so10:19
mjg59Aren't they AC97s? Do they not work with sl-modem?10:19
BenCI'm just closing bug reports asking to support them, the driver looks too risky even for lrm10:19
BenCnah, these certain ones have to be compiled with pre-built object files of unknown origin10:21
mjg59BenC: Should work fine with the alsa driver and sl-modem-daemon10:23
mjg59Hm. There's a few chipsets that are only supported with the actual sl-modem driver, which would have to go in l-r-m10:29
mjg59Oh, gah, maybe there are some non-AC97 ones10:32
mjg59Hngh10:32
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BenCcrispin: can you try booting with disable_timer_pin_1 and see if that helps?11:33
BenCif it does, send me dmidecode, and I'll start a blacklist for systems experiencing that problem11:34
crispinI just add that to the command line ?11:34
BenCyeah11:34
crispink11:34
crispinurgh, that causes the machine not to boot11:37
crispinremoving the 'quiet splash', it gets to "Running /scripts/init-premount"11:38
crispinthen some ACPI stuff appears, then nothing11:38
crispinBenC: could the values in /etc/adjtime be causing a fast clock ?11:43
crispinI have no idea how that file is used ....11:43
BenCnot sure, I don't know how it all works together11:44
crispin1 second in 5 minutes is what my machine is gaining11:44
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