=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Firetech [n=Jocke@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptolo [n=senko@83-131-64-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A62209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@sclab-166-10933.sclab.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] have a nice sleep you all === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-073-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] hi folks [01:47] hi sistpoty === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable175.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:18] LaserJock : could you look at malone bug 3250 ? I think we should tell this guy that universe repository is not in sources.list by default, and reject the bug [02:18] Malone bug #3250: Broken Package - mozilla-mailnews In: mozilla (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/3250 [02:18] or any other helpful MOTU who wants to look at it :) [02:22] reject it [02:23] if someone enables universe, (s)he is assumed to have the good sense to enable updates,security for it, too. [02:23] I wouldn't word it thusly, but something along those lines suffices [02:25] crimsun : yeah but I don't have the rights to reject it ;) [02:26] ho wait maybe I do... sorry [02:26] update-manager won't start anymore? [02:27] ...or is it just me? :-) [02:27] it seemed to start here [02:27] err, scratch that [02:27] confusion with update-notifier [02:28] yeah, it fails here with gnome_program_init_paramv: assertion `nparams > 0' failed [02:31] indeed [02:31] can't find a pixmap or something like that :-) [02:32] crimsun : accepting a bug is just like confirming it right? [02:32] thierry: it also implies that you're actively working on it [02:32] crimsun : ho ok... === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] yay, finally got DSL back [02:47] it's annoying when it goes down for an hour or so [02:47] hehe [02:47] ...Is it bad that I though Damn Small Linux? [02:48] Kyral: yes, you're a sad geek [02:48] ajmitch: then what are you? [02:48] nobody knows ;) [02:48] I mean you are a DD ;P [02:48] a patient geek? [02:48] lol [02:48] rrze (computer centre of my university) doesn't deliver any mails atm, I feel somehow cut off from the world *g* === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo thinks it's worse when the power goes out and his laptop have to automagically reconnect using that neighboors open ap :-P [02:49] lol [02:49] I think its bad when you carry around you own 4-port hub in your laptop bag :D [02:49] sistpoty: I rely on ssh for all my work, I needed that internet connection! [02:49] bah, I have a pringles can in my bag [02:50] ajmitch: so can I :D [02:50] ajmitch: oh, then I guess I'm not hit that bad ;) [02:51] (at least I can still ssh to rrze server and less /var/mail/sistpoty) [02:51] I wish I had REAL broadband. [02:51] You know you are a geek when.... [02:51] the kind that has the same bandwidth in both directions :-P [02:52] Nafallo: the broadband you have isn't good enough for you? :P [02:52] you know you are a geek when you put the return address on envelopes as "$HOME" [02:52] ajmitch: upstream is ALWAYS swamped :-P [02:53] Nafallo: so stop file sharing [02:53] it plays havoc with tcp downloads [02:53] baah [02:53] or you know your IP Address better than your RL Address === Nafallo has only 20-30 torrents or something like that seeding :-P === ajmitch restricted his flatmate's connection to ~3 packets/sec until he got the message :) [02:54] lol [02:54] lol [02:54] hehe, I had a similar case once, but I just banned his mac ;) [02:54] now he just spends his time on world of warcraft [02:55] ouch. that's almost worse :-P === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-64-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-38-37.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === etcp_ [i=foobar@home.etcp.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.13.74] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.14.16.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] morning all :-) [03:21] hi zakame [03:22] hi sistpoty :) === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-21999.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] hi Kyral [03:30] heya Kyral , LaserJock :) === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] hi zakame [03:31] heya [03:31] sithspit its freezing out [03:32] Kyral: temp? [03:32] YAH! [03:32] waah [03:35] Kyral: seemed cold here today (high of 36F) but I can't complain too much [03:35] 14 F [03:35] tomorrow's high is 18 F with a low of -6 BEFORE wind chill [03:36] whoa [03:36] Welcome to the frozen wasteland [03:36] that's a big tunraround [03:38] Kyral: I lived in Montana until I came here for grad school. It was pretty chilly there too. I think it was -19 at my inlaws yesterday [03:38] for some reason NV doesn't seem much warmer, just a lot hotter in the summer [03:39] lol === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] gaah === sistpoty just updated the merge list: 103->107 unassigned [03:47] oooh [03:47] kernel [03:49] sistpoty: w00t [03:49] sistpoty: yay [03:49] hehe, I really used my 7 steps to update the merge list, which I sent to tiber admins... I guess I'd forgotten otherwise how to do it *g* [03:49] and about 150 assigned? [03:50] the assigned aren't touched (or shouldn't be) [03:50] LaserJock: your @ubuntu start working yet? [03:50] sistpoty: yes, but how many assigned bugs are there? [03:51] firefox just decided to go crazy here (again) [03:51] so I can't tell [03:51] ajmitch: 195 [03:51] ouch [03:51] too many === ajmitch needs to get a few uploaded [03:51] -4 real soon :-) [03:52] the ones from me are either uploaded (1) or ftbfs on ia64 (2) [03:52] mine are all sitting on my disk [03:52] zope ones shouldn't take long :) [03:52] hehe [03:53] maybe there are some already fixed on the assigned list as well... the email-parser/launchpad communication isn't the most stable yet [03:55] Kyral: not yet === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty just corrects some assigned bugs [04:00] er, k3d shouldn't be assigned to me... and its not even a merge bug :( [04:01] no complaints! work! *cracks whip* [04:03] zakame: just saw it [04:03] sistpoty: just assign them all to \sh [04:04] hm... will save him some work of filing bugs :P === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grizzli [n=Chris@thornton-ep.tip.csiro.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] ajmitch: seb128 complains bout nautilus-python (malone: #4832) [04:13] sistpoty: that was 2 weeks ago.. [04:14] well, just noted it while going through each bug [04:14] the day after I filed the merge bug, and I talked to him on irc since then :) [04:14] hehe [04:14] 0.4.x does crash [04:14] and it requires some looking at === StevenK hrms at libwnn6 in Dapper. [04:32] I'm off to bed now... gn8 everyone [04:33] cya sistpoty === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] StevenK: yeah, I hrmed at it, too, since it's preventing at least one of my packages from building [04:40] just haven't had time to drill down and fix it [04:42] I switched to libwnn-dev and that causes it now be okay about Build-Depends, but then fail to build. === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-222-183-136.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] Right. The new version of wnn6-sdk (1.0.0-13) looks to be better. [04:56] Just gotta wait for them to hit the archive. [04:59] StevenK: how much grace time should I give a debian bug submitter before I feel like going & beating them? === ajmitch calms [05:03] ajmitch: Time to skip the country? :-P === nmsa is now known as nmsa_away [05:17] probably\ === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A63960.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jah_raztah [n=jahrazta@CPE0006255ab096-CM0011e6bec6bf.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] afternoon all :) [06:46] hi === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] 12:51 am here [06:52] ooh, that reminds me... [07:05] hi [07:05] hi ajmitch , your lesson rocks! :D [07:06] hah, thanks [07:06] I hope it's coherent enough [07:07] oh great professor ajmitch! [07:08] oh shut up :P [07:09] ajmitch: what time was that for you? [07:09] 6am [07:09] that was very coherent for 6am ;-) [07:12] because he's already a well-seasoned, veteran :D [07:12] :P [07:12] I'm not the international celebrity speaker who flies all over the world to give talks [07:12] yeah that's jdu [07:13] b [07:13] :D [07:13] and now the famous jsgotangco [07:13] gyahhh [07:13] we are in the presence of greatness here! [07:14] Masters of the Universe at least ;-) [07:14] w00t [07:14] LaserJock: jsgotangco flew all the way to korea to give a talk [07:14] yeah, I heard about that [07:14] that is so cool [07:14] nobody can compete with that [07:15] maybe if mark had given a talk from space [07:15] true [07:15] mark is flying all the way to dunedin, new zealand [07:16] and is giving a keynote talk [07:16] is that cool enough/ [07:16] ? [07:16] yeah [07:16] I wish I could see him in the US. [07:16] i want to refute that statement but it'll give you another chance to say something :P [07:17] greatness indeed [07:19] jsgotangco: checked out if you can come to LCA yet? [07:20] ajmitch, i'm flying to brisbane this weekend, i'll see what i can do [07:20] ah right [07:20] I thought it was last weekend, my bad [07:23] ajmitch, going to dunedin won't be an issue, finding a place to stay would probably be === jah_raztah [n=jahrazta@CPE0006255ab096-CM0011e6bec6bf.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:24] I might have a spare room here still :) === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@dsl-146-100-81.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan [i=www-data@midnight.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] morning! [07:51] hi === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kerosin__ [n=kerosin@dslb-084-058-201-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] hi bojan === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A601F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] hi zakame! === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-137-250.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] re again ajmitch [09:12] ajmitch: are you resigning or being dismissed? (I guess it's job switching season ;-) === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] hm, it was a short/medium-term contract sort of thing [09:17] ajmitch: ah I see, you completed the project there? [09:18] yeah === desplesda [n=desplesd@58.164.219.163] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan is now known as bojan_away === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B15FC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] what's new in MOTU land? === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B1FBC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] <\sh> that i'm more sick then yesterday.....I shouldn't have gone to amu yesterday evening === zakame [n=Josh@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] \sh! [10:48] evening all :D [10:48] that doesn't sound good [10:48] too much drink? [10:48] <\sh> ajmitch: cold [10:49] ah [10:50] <\sh> sore throat, higher body temperature then yesterday, the typical things [10:51] not so fun [10:51] <\sh> actually a good sign that I'm going back to normal [10:51] <\sh> 2 years without a cold or any other illness, that's not normal [10:51] yeah [10:51] I don't often get one [10:52] <\sh> nah not often...but at least one your body should have once a year to build up your immunesystem === ajmitch gets to do the job hunt dance as well now [10:57] <\sh> oh oh linus starts a desktop war [10:58] \sh: where? [10:58] <\sh> http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html [11:02] *sigh* === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A641E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kerosin_ [n=kerosin@dslb-084-058-211-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] \sh: what can you say to that? [11:24] :-/ [11:24] <\sh> uhm? [11:24] <\sh> what shoud I say to that [11:25] sivang: \sh is a kde lover, remember ;) [11:25] <\sh> ajmitch: well...but I don't agree with linus [11:26] <\sh> but the comment in this mail, it's from a man who invented make config [11:26] heh [11:28] <\sh> but to be honest...we should have something like "beginners, semi-pros, experts, cracks" in our desktop settings...so the default is "beginner" and the others can directly go to "cracks" === zakame [n=Josh@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sid5400 [i=sid5400@069.a.001.gee.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] !list [11:53] Admin, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, DCC, Fortune, Misc, Owner, and User === sid5400 [i=sid5400@069.a.001.gee.iprimus.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:56] <\sh> hmmm..I wonder..every singe time jamesh is posting one article, planet catch my blog and goes crazy [11:57] [11:57] uu === blablablabla [n=maniac@i3ED6EB85.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-87-69-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] good morning === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mmtb [n=mmtb@dxw228.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d077023.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bojan_away is now known as bojan === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-16-20.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1FBC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] hi all === fredix [n=fredix@18.68.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A641E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@210.213.150.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] could anyone recommend a site/document regarding how to make library packages? [01:23] i tried making a libvmime package, and unfortunately the .so's and .a's aren't part of the .deb it built... [01:24] http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html [01:25] azeem, thanks! [01:25] but I've read this, and it doesn't really say much about which files to change, and what to do... [01:26] do those files get installed properly to $(DESTDIR)/usr/lib? [01:27] by the upstream Makefile, I mean [01:28] i should check... but if it means anything, the sources use a configure script to define these things... [01:29] that's good, but the Makefiles need actually use them as well [01:29] +to [01:30] ah... [01:30] is there a way to tell the cofigure script that the DEST_DIR="/usr" using the files in debian/ ? [01:31] no, configure should not be concerned with DESTDIR [01:31] DESTDIR should just be an override to the Makefile's install target [01:32] okay... but isn't there a way to tell configure that the destination directory of the makefiles generated should be "/usr" ? [01:32] something like --prefix or something like that? [01:32] yes [01:32] --prefix=/usr [01:33] so is there a way to tell the configure script that that should be the case? [01:33] using the files perhaps in debian/ ? [01:33] which files in debian/? [01:34] beats me... [01:36] how do i include the .so's and .a's in the .deb ? debuild doesn't do it... [01:36] debuild just calles debian/rules [01:36] so you need to make sure your debian/rules includes them [01:36] azeem, so how do i do that? [01:36] how many binary packages do you build? [01:37] 2, one for the lib and another for the -dev [01:37] ok. And where are the files installed for staging? [01:37] debian/tmp/ ? [01:37] yup [01:38] I see the files there, but not in the .deb it builds... [01:38] yes [01:38] because the .debs get built from debian/libfoo/ [01:38] and debian/libfoo-dev [01:38] so you need to make sure the appropriate files get moved to those dirs [01:38] so how should it get there? [01:38] which is usually done by dh_install [01:39] you can control which files end up in which package by having debian/libfoo.install and debian/libfoo-dev.install files [01:39] which tell dh_install what to do [01:39] best to check out a few other library (or even regular) packages, to see how they do it [01:40] oh, okay... [01:40] thanks. :) [01:40] that sure makes sense. :) [01:40] you're welcome [01:40] should get running now. [01:40] thanks again. :) === Gazer [n=ngazer@ADSL-200-59-79-201.capfed2.sinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@210.213.150.3] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.80.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] evening all :D [02:34] thanks! [02:35] I'm searching a litlle and easy app to package, (first package) === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] morning all [02:36] thierry: I'd take one that its already packaged, try to do it, then compare it to the one that is already done [02:36] evening Kyral :D === bojan is now known as bojan_away === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:45] YAY! nip2 built fine! \o/ === zakame now looks for new pkgs to merge [02:45] Kyral : good idea... === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] Kyral : don't wan't to stop you doing important stuff, but you could you take a look at malone bug 5288 [02:50] Malone bug #5288: orbit (Ubuntu) - [PATCH] adding a .desktop file to space-orbit In: space-orbit (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Motu Games Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/5288 === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=supermar@p50925662.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] why look at it lol === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d077023.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] lathiat: bong [03:14] tseng: bing? [03:14] lathiat: http://www.hezmatt.org/~mpalmer/planet_ror/ < planet rails unbroken [03:15] cool [03:15] what was broken about it? [03:15] planetrubyonrails.org is totally crack [03:16] its not really PLanet === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanpg [n=ryanpg@c-24-13-248-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] hi minghua [04:07] hello zakame === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A6028B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pupeno [n=pupeno@host102.201-252-3.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] Hello. [04:27] I am in need of updated packages for Haskell, I am planning to backport those on Dapper which are updated and/or update them as necesary. Should I use my own separate repository ? Is there any interest in having this on breezy-backports ? === Kyral points to the Backports Request Forum on UbuntuForums [04:30] Kyral: I am planning to do the work myself (not just request it). [04:31] Pupeno: you can build it then tell JDong that its clean, then he MIGHT put it in Breezy-Backports === ryanpg [n=ryanpg@c-24-13-248-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@24.192.2.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] so let's say I wanted to become MOTU.... what/where would I need to sign up? ;-) [04:49] hmm, lp it looks like [04:50] huh? I thought you just work like a MOTU: grab a merge, work on that, post a debdiff, and ping a MOTU... ;) [04:50] yeah, lp's ubuntu-dev [04:50] zakame: I'd like to apply for official MOTU privs, as it seems like Mez is no longer active [04:50] (and to make ogra happy) [04:51] so join the team and show up to today's TB? [04:51] ooh! [04:51] yeah ubuntu-dev is the way to go :D [04:51] alright, cool [04:51] will be back [04:51] yes, with all the standard(?) stuff, like updating your wiki page, pulling in you fan club :) [04:52] do you think I'll need a fan club? [04:52] or would the usual people who show up know me already? [04:52] hehe they would already know :) === jdong_ proceeds to update wiki page [04:53] boy it's been months since I've touched it === zakame checks the buildlogs for ion3 === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] jdong_: you don't need to be a MOTU to do motu work === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d016053.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] siretart: then would you recommend me to become MOTU? [05:05] jdong_: just look for your favorite area to work on, work with the respective MOTUs. get packages uploaded, then apply to the tb, and the motu you worked with will advocate you [05:06] jdong_: what area would you be interested in? [05:06] indeed, that's what I was trying to point out :) [05:06] we have a lot of MOTU Teams! [05:06] patching whatever Backports needs to get done [05:06] basically filling in for Mez's roles [05:06] this morning Ogra was complaning about how mez never shows up anymore === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] jdong_: he was yesterday here, he did sound that well, right [05:08] jdong_: well, atm we still have an awful lot of merges to do, there are many easy ones to get started, I think [05:09] wow we're almost back down to 100 :) [05:12] w00t! :) [05:13] if a motu has some time, I have 4 merges and a bug to review [05:13] (actually 3 syncs, 1 merge, 1 bug fix) [05:14] gn8 all! (actuall good morning ;) :D === lucas finds it hard to do MOTURuby work if nobody uploads his fixes :-) [05:15] (I've just pbuilded meld, but am unsure if a sync is ok, deal-tomorrow) [05:15] lucas: you are unfortunatly perfectly right :(, but we are working it [05:15] Now am sure :) [05:17] gn8 really! :D === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ivoks [n=ivoks@161.53.50.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p2028-ipbf1001marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p2028-ipbf1001marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:58] any one interested at looking to my revu contrib ? === iceman [n=iceman@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] hello everybody [06:01] hi iceman [06:01] I'd like to report a bug in the "mail-notification" package [06:01] which is in universe [06:01] you can do that here [06:01] but the backage doesn't seem to be in malone [06:01] on laucnhpad [06:02] no thats current [06:02] let me link you to the report page [06:02] ok, thanks [06:02] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug === Cassidy [n=gdesmott@di-pc78.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] I know this page [06:03] there you can report bugs [06:03] but I don't think I have the permissions to add a package in malone === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] that's my problem [06:03] here [06:03] an other location is bugzilla.ubuntu.com [06:03] you dont have to add packages [06:03] it's a universe bug. There isn't bugzilla entry for it [06:04] then report it to malone [06:04] that's what I'm trying to do [06:04] and that gives an error ? [06:04] lol I'm telling you I can't report it in malone because that package doesn't appear in it [06:04] iceman: it's okay to report a bug without package name [06:05] iceman: if it doesn't exist in malone, that is [06:05] ha ok [06:06] in fact, when my "search for products" tells me the product isn't registered in the launchpad, it tells me I can register it myself [06:06] but I don't really understand how to do it [06:06] that would be the proper way, I think [06:07] first register the package, then report the bug [06:07] yes i think your right [06:08] the product doesn't need to be associated with ubuntu ? [06:08] but for example the first thing I'm asked before the name of the package itself is "Project" [06:08] and I don't know what I'm supposed to answer there [06:08] "Ubuntu" ? [06:08] I can't even choose is when clicking on the link on the right of the textbox [06:09] is^it [06:10] so, does anyone know? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] yes enter ubuntu [06:12] ok, I will try that [06:21] it worked, thanks everybody [06:21] :-) [06:28] no problemo [06:29] that interesting [06:30] what is LaserJock_ ? [06:31] JohnnyMast: sorry, I need to stop commenting on things that happened hours ago :( [06:31] hehe well maybe you should but i wasnt there [06:31] JohnnyMast: I keep scrolling up to see what has happend while I'm gone and keep thinking it's the current conversation [06:32] hahaha [06:32] that happends to me as well on ocation === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@c-67-183-18-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio__ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] hi there [07:03] hi === iceman [n=iceman@physInfo-mac26.ulb.ac.be] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye!"] === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mbreit [n=mo@dslb-082-083-008-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] good evening [07:39] hi mbreit === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.13.74] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] some reviewers alive ? === herve [n=hcauweli@ubuntu/member/herve] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] hello [08:02] hey herve [08:03] Anyone here knows cdbs? Or should I ask in -school? [08:03] in school they will point you to irc logs [08:04] pick the link in the topic there and lookup the chat log of 10december and read the *-school log [08:04] you will find some intesting lines there [08:04] JohnnyMast: I can review... [08:05] well you checked out ttb before for a quick view didnt you ? [08:06] could you review this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1133 mbreit ? [08:09] JohnnyMast: I have more of a specific question. In https://wiki.duckcorp.org/DebianPackagingTutorial/CDBS it says "Then do a "debian/rules clean" run to (re)generate 'debian/control'." How do I do this? [08:09] JohnnyMast: that generated nohup.out should not go into the diff.gz... [08:10] mbreit i know i wrote that in the comment [08:10] Hieronymus i never used cdbs === Hieronymus asks in -school [08:11] JohnnyMast: and where is the ttb-0.9.4/build/scripts-2.4/ttb file from? it's also in the diff.gz... did you download that from the homepage or is that generated as well? [08:12] its from the orgional package (downloaded from the site) [08:13] hmm you are right now i see [08:13] hehe [08:14] let me see [08:14] JohnnyMast: aways look at your diff.gz if there are only your changes in it (and it's always good if there are only changes in the debian/ directory) === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] but otherwise it looks good, very clean... [08:15] i like to hear that :) [08:15] let me fix the things [08:15] mbreit can you build as well on revu ? === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@d80-170-82-213.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] JohnnyMast: I could do it... that means that I have the access to revu... but i don't know how to do it "the revu way"... [08:17] ok [08:17] and I prefer building packages on my own system, because that's amd64 [08:17] well im doing debuild on the updated package [08:18] Hi all, is there any way to 'revert' upload for package? Or have quick remedy for a bad and mistaken upload of package? [08:18] abelcheung: how can you upload a package with dpkg-buildpackage ? [08:18] mbreit: Do you have some time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1148? [08:18] yeah upload a new version if the code was wrong. it picks the newest version of the package on the revu site [08:19] (was about to mail you to ask) [08:19] lucas: I can't really be sure how I did that, basically I have not done any configuration to achieve it [08:19] lucas: try "dput" [08:19] dput *.changes [08:19] lfittl: not much time... [08:19] just a simple dpkg-buildpackage and it is uploaded [08:20] mbreit: *with dpkg-buildpackage* [08:20] (see the mail from abel on ubuntu-motu [08:20] yes brt that was with -s -sa -k [08:20] mbreit: ok no problem, I will ask some other person later ;) [08:20] created a .changes file [08:21] abelcheung: it was a revu upload ? [08:21] FYI, the affected package is scim-modules. minghua, are you here? [08:21]