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kunggn812:00
jspshbut /etc/fstab is insecure12:00
mykecan someone helo me?12:00
mykecan someone helo me?12:00
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trappistuse -o credentials to specify a file with username/password combos12:00
mykeim trying to install Gyach and i get this error     http://pastebin.com/46156312:00
jspshi have to put password=12:00
Pianomany2kwhen installing Ubuntu, what is the "factory set" Root password?12:00
trappistjspsh: use -o credentials=/some/file12:00
j2daoshi know that answer12:00
sinclairso, should i put POP in evolution setup assistant Superbob?12:00
j2daoshlol12:00
trappistPianomany2k: random.  use sudo.12:00
Dr_WillisPianomany2k,  you mean the live cd? or the installed version?12:00
SuperbobPianomany2k, there is none12:01
Pianomany2kinstalled version12:01
northieno root in ubuntu12:01
Dr_WillisPianomany2k,  congratulations you just asked FAQ #1 :P12:01
siriusnovaUbuntu is better then sex12:01
chrisx1How do i fix this Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key12:01
j2daoshlol12:01
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northiehaving a root user is a liability ;)12:01
Superbobsinclair, yes with ssl enabled, gmail actually have a very good page telling you how to set up in the settings section of the web interface12:01
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tOtayep and life is better than mounting/unmounting drives in Linux12:01
Dr_Willisnorthie,  heh - dont start up that old argument again. :P12:01
zoqaeskii've just stuffed up big time12:02
Pianomany2kDr_Willis: I'm also trying to figure out how to get my Rockwell modem to work. Autodetect in "Network Configurations" doesn't seem to find it12:02
northiesorry, Doc. sorry.12:02
intelikeymyke that's telling you that it is already installed ?12:02
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stef65siriusnova: u know what 'ejacultio praecox' means, don't you ???12:02
cafuegoSomeone make the virgins stop talking ... ;-)12:02
chrisx1How do i start openssh12:02
mykerally12:02
mykereally12:02
j2daoshlol caf... hey now... i resemble that remark12:02
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siriusnovaUbuntu is awesome because the developers seem to have a relatively sane sense of gui design, compared to Mandrake, SUSE, and Others...12:02
SuperbobtOta, you didnt get any further12:02
Dr_WillisPianomany2k,  i aint had a modem in any pc in  years. :P check the Ubuntu WIkis and forums - would be my first stop to get info on it.12:02
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techrushhow can i get ubuntu to boot faster ? it seems to take a very long time on the "configuring network cards" part of the boot process12:02
mykeintelikey   wow i feel stupid12:02
j2daoshchris... ssh user@host12:02
bulio|lapfor ubuntu installl12:02
bulio|laperase entire disk: IDE1 master (hda) -8.6GB12:02
bulio|lapor12:03
bulio|lapErase entire disk and use LVM: IDE1 master (hda) -8.6GB12:03
jspshtrappist> for the  credentials file12:03
qt2err, is devfs enabled by default in the ubuntu kernel?12:03
bulio|lapwhich one?12:03
j2daoshwoohoo i answered a question... im neat lol12:03
intelikeymyke eeek no my bad.12:03
beelzebub1987anyone here use freenx?12:03
Dr_Willistechrush,  your dhcp server isent reponding then it seems..12:03
bulio|lapanyone?12:03
zoqaeskihow do i undo accidentally renaming /var as /var2 ?12:03
_jasonchrisx1, it should start when you boot12:03
jspshtrappist> i just put username=user\npassword=pass right?12:03
beelzebub1987I'm having a bit of trouble with it12:03
Ngqt2: nope, udev is, although devfs may be compiled in12:03
sinclairum, okay.. ill put POP as answer on evolution and will later set it up at gmail.. i hope i understood well :p12:03
cafuegobulio|lap: Don't use LVM unless you 1) know what it is and 2) actually need it.12:03
bulio|lapk12:03
intelikeymyke it is an install error.   sorry i misread part of it.12:03
techrushDr_Willis is there anyway i can set it so that it doesnt check for that on boot ?12:03
chrisx1_jason i get this Cld not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key12:03
chrisx1*could12:03
tOtanop bob im think im goona quit12:03
beelzebub1987My freenx server is up and all, and I can connect to it from the same machine I'm running it on, howerver I cannot connect to it from other computers such as my windows laptop or my mac os x 10.3.9...12:04
tOtathis is becoming stupid and annoying12:04
zoqaeskican somebody help me?12:04
qt2Ng, heh, i'm trying to get oss2jack working, which requires fusd.12:04
mykeintelikey i ran the prog "gyach" in a term and i poped up12:04
ubuntu_ok i got it to play mp3's12:04
SuperbobtOta, lol ah well i tried12:04
qt2Ng, i've had really bad experinces with custom compiling kernels though.12:04
ubuntu_now what about .avi;s12:04
Dr_Willistechrush,   you connected to the network normally?   you could always set up a staiic ip. Ive noticed the delay with my laptop when i am not-networked. but never worried about it.12:04
mykeintelikey seeing if i cna log in12:04
_jasonchrisx1, you get that when? when you try to connect?12:04
chrisx1when i try start it _jason12:04
Ngqt2: I'd be really surprised if whatever those things are require devfs12:04
mykeintelikey it is working12:04
chrisx1at start _jason it fails12:04
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techrushDr_Willis its on a laptop thats only connected through wireless that is setup with a script after boot12:05
qt2Ng, FUSD is a Linux Framework for User-Space Devices12:05
intelikeymyke k  good.  the error was probably because it would not overwrite a file.12:05
H0ganI got ubuntu on, but it is saying that it failed to start the X server, and if I would like to see the server output to diagnose the problem. Will I click yes or no?12:05
qt2Ng, and lists devfs as a prereq.12:05
cafuegodevfs is deprecated, don't depend on it. ever,12:05
tOtajamie thx again12:05
_jasonchrisx1, well has to do with the ssh keys, I don't use those.  I just have it using regular passwords.  So I don't know too much about your problem12:05
mykeintelikey thanks for the help anyway12:05
intelikeynp12:05
Ngqt2: well then it must be pretty rubbish because devfs is being removed from the kernel ;)12:05
Dr_Willistechrush could be the delay is  the wireless network slowness.. check the wiki/forums perhaps. I i dont use wireless any more.12:05
chrisx1i can disable ssh keys?12:05
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techrushok thank you sir12:05
Ngqt2: I see it hasn't been updated since 2003 :/12:06
SuperbobtOta, no problem unkown12:06
_jasonchrisx1, it's more secure if you don't but yeah in /etc/ssh/ssh_config12:06
vmartinAnyone here run k3b for cd burning?12:06
Superbobvmartin, yes12:06
tOtabob :D could you send me a email with commands12:06
zoqaeskiI've accidentally re-named/moved /var to /var2 whilst trying to sort out some partition problems; now everything's stuffed up cos of this mistakes and I can't undo it.... any ideas how to fix my blunder?12:06
qt2Ng, i'm basically trying to find a way to let xmms pipe stuff through jack and into skype.12:06
intelikeyvmartin many12:06
ToR911sudo dpkg -i filename.deb gives an error (for the java package12:06
tOtaor in private just a fast type so i could save them and try later12:06
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qt2Ng, basically virtual audio patch cables.12:06
earldude1Hey everyone!  I just installed a default version of Breezy.  Is there a way modify some sort of config file or something in order to make the OS NOT automatically load gnome but rather just boot to a prompt or should I have done a server install instead?12:07
vmartinSuperbob: I am having a weird problem.  When I copy data cd's with disc to disc it works great.  But when I copy audio cd to audio cd it goes insanely slow.  Taking up to hours.  Any idea's?12:07
mykeintelikey but i just saw something in the term12:07
intelikey?12:07
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rosenI'm getting dependency errors with libxml-libxml-perl ... can anyone tell me what could cause this and how I can correct it ?12:07
bulio|lapBase system insytallation error12:07
bulio|lap<bulio|lap> the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)12:07
SuperbobtOta, i'll see you back here again, or in #fedora12:07
bulio|lapduring install12:07
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bulio|lapwhat is wrong?12:07
stef65earldude1: just make it start to runlevel 3 instaed of 5 (e.g. by boot parameters)12:08
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qt2Ng, happen to know of an alternative way?12:08
Ngqt2: 'fraid not12:08
ToR911udo dpkg -i filename.deb gives an error , when trying to install a java package, can anyone help?12:08
Superbobvmartin, do you copy on the fly/12:08
earldude1stef65:  how do I do that? or, where can I read about runlevels and how to change them12:08
vmartinSuperbob:  if memory serves me correctly I tried both ways.12:08
H0ganI got Ubuntu on, but Im working from a command line. Anyway to access the GUI? Or is there anyway to set it to reboot to back to Windows from the Command line?12:08
enokde sure sucks it back eh12:08
tOtaok12:08
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Dr_WillisH0gan,  could just type 'startx'12:09
nickrudearldude1, ubuntu boots to runlevel 2 by default, and runlevels 2-5 are essentially identical. You can disable gdm by removing /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm12:09
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stef65earldude1: complex question... 'google and read' is my suggestion12:09
Dr_WillisH0gan,  or are you saying the "gdm" service/X is not configured right?12:09
PhoulWhats a good python editer for ubuntu?12:09
rosenno idea what could cause dependency errors with libxml-libxml-perl ? ... I dont know how to go about correcting this12:09
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enoI think kde was written in qbasic.  I am doing sudo ap-get remove workspace-kubuntu12:10
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rarrris there another app for changing the resolution other than gnome-display-properties?12:10
enobut what SHOULD I be doing?12:10
ToR911can someone help me with this java package please12:10
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PhoulCan anyone tell me a good python editer?12:10
jspshis there a way to set RW permissions on mounted samba shares?12:10
earldude1nickRud: what does GDM stand for?, and, is S13gdm simply a config file or something?12:10
H0ganDr_Willis, I goT FATAL IO ERROR 10 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 remaining.12:10
HymnToLifeGDM : Gnome Desktop Manager12:11
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nickrudearldude1, gdm is the Gnome Display Manager, the screen you log in on.12:11
earldude1oh duh12:11
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intelikeyrosen trying to install "libxml-libxml-perl" ?12:11
earldude1cool.  and then so what is s13gdm?12:11
_jasonPhoul, boa construcor or vim12:11
HymnToLifewoops yes, display*12:11
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bimberiToR911: what's the error?12:11
_jasonPhoul, constructor*12:11
rosenintelikey, nah I was just trying to update Ubuntu actually, but I got the errormessage a few times before12:11
nickrudearldude1, the way ubuntu boots is, it loads the kernel, runs the scripts linked in /etc/rcS.d/, then runs the scripts linked in /etc/rc2.d12:11
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enokde runs like my dreamcast is trying to emulate a ps2... how do I remove it exactly?12:12
rosenintelikey, I dont even know what libxml-libxml-perl is ;)12:12
ToR911dpkb-deb(sub-process): short read in buffer copy (....12:12
earldude1ok so s13gdm is simply a script then12:12
nickrudearldude1, all the scripts themselves are in /etc/init.d12:12
Superbobvmartin, do you have swap space enabed?12:12
nidenWhat's the Make command on Ubuntu ??12:12
stef65... ok, just found out that the runlevel conf in ubuntu is kinda SICK!12:12
cafuegoearldude1: Indeed. To disable gdm, edit /etc/X11/default-display-maneger12:12
vmartinSuperbob: within k3b?12:12
nickrudearldude1, so, by changing links in rc2.d, you can control what's started.12:12
bimberiToR911: eww, i'd guess that's a bad download12:12
H0ganWhat do I type to reboot?12:13
Superbobvmartin, no as linux paritition12:13
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nickrudalthough, apparently there's a better way now :)12:13
enoif you want to talk about bad downloads, don't get me started about kde.12:13
intelikeyrosen a perl librarry for libxml inc.    make sure you follow the steps on the wiki to upgrade.12:13
enooh MAN!  I want to remove it so bad12:13
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earldude1thank you everyone!12:13
intelikey!upgrade to breezy12:13
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, intelikey12:13
rosenintelikey, allright I'll try that ... I didnt think I could upgrade libxml actually ;)12:13
vmartinSuperbob: yep12:13
intelikey!upgrade12:14
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:14
ToR911k , ty12:14
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H0ganhey, what do I type in command line to reboot? I tried 'reboot' but it informed me that im not a super user12:14
rem_shutdown -r now12:14
rem_H0gan12:14
rem_sudo shutdown -r now12:14
chaumurkyis there a way to have a cdrom spin speed slowed for playing cds - it's far too noisy at 40x!!12:14
bimberieno: removing libqt3-mt will remove KDE plus a lot of KDE apps12:15
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Superbobvmartin, normally works fine with me at 52x i could only think its writing to disk then cd12:15
nickrudcafuego, is default-display-manager appearing in dapper; it's not present on this breezy install12:15
enoI hate kde... thanks.  I will get right on that, Bimberi12:15
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cafuegochaumurky: Rip the songs to ogg or mp3, play them without any CD noise.12:15
chaumurkyrather a complicated way?12:15
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cafuegonickrud: it's on breezy too.12:16
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chaumurkyI like lossless anyway12:16
ubuntu_hello everyone12:16
chaumurkyso I take that as a no then?12:16
cafuegochaumurky: Rip tp flac.12:16
intelikeyrem_ i'd have said 'ctrl+alt+del'12:16
stef65Nobody in here running a laptop or Mini ITX with this &%$&-embedded VIA graphix? the xserver just won't start after the install routine, and there's so much contradicting info on the web that i just don't know where to turn next... (except maybe installing gentoo.. :-))12:17
cafuegochaumurky: Of course, you cannot distringuish between high bitrate ogg or mp3 and lossless, irrespective of whether you think you can.12:17
enooh yeah!  I am blowing KDE away!12:17
chaumurkyripping's not really a solution anyway. I don't want to do that.12:17
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chaumurkyI just want to slow down the spindle speed to 1x12:17
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chaumurkywhat about an hdparm -E1 or something?12:18
enochaumurky: maybeyou could hack the source or something?12:18
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HymnToLifestef65 > if you want to install gentoo, good luck :p12:18
cafuegochaumurky: An *audio* cd always plays at 1X anyway.12:18
chaumurkyI suppose I can only rty12:18
chaumurky*try12:18
chaumurkywell, the data does but not the spindle speed12:18
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sintaxHey guys12:18
HymnToLifeit has to be the geekiest distro ever, a true nightmare12:18
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active-matrixdr-xr-xr-x  100 root root 0 2005-12-13 00:48 /proc12:19
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active-matrixwhat does root root mean in here12:19
stef65Quote: 'Ubuntu is an ancient african word for. I'm sick of compiling gentoo :-)'12:19
iHeartKem_How do I get the windows media codecs for mplayer in ubuntu ?12:19
cafuegoactive-matrix: Means that proc is owned by user root and group root.12:19
HymnToLifeactive-matrix > owner and group12:19
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bimberiactive-matrix: owner is root and the group is root12:19
chaumurkyHymnToLife: I hear ya - all the time saved in an efficient build is lost in the build process!!12:19
active-matrixwell i do sudo to to edit proc it gets me error you dont have permisions12:19
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HymnToLifeiHeartKem > sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:20
djteenbotHey yall question about this : was wondering about when i download something off of the net..... if it the information i download will dissappear when i shut down my computer?>12:20
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iHeartKem_thanks HymnToLife12:20
enoiHeartKem_: totem is supposed to work, but I find it doesn't always12:20
cafuegoactive-matrix: You cannot edit files in /proc, they're not real files.12:20
HymnToLifeactive-matrix > because even root cannot write to it12:20
bimberiactive-matrix: why are you editing /proc, it's a directory12:20
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djteenbotHey yall question about this : was wondering about when i download something off of the net..... if it the information i download will dissappear when i shut down my computer?>12:20
active-matrixi want to change the windows scale12:20
iHeartKem_E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate12:20
cafuegoactive-matrix: You can sometimes echo data INTO those files, but don't do that if you don't know why you're doing it or what the effect will be.12:20
mykeintelikey it keeps crashing12:20
trappistdjteenbot: no12:20
_jasonubotu, tell iHeartKem about w32codecs12:20
active-matrixyes i want to use echo12:21
djteenbotwhat do ya mean?12:21
HymnToLife!tell iHeartKem about plf12:21
vmartinSuperbob: im trying clonecd method.  it seems to be going faster that way12:21
HymnToLifeubotu, you suck :/12:21
ubotuHymnToLife: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:21
cafuegoactive-matrix: "I want to change the windows scale" makes exactly no sense. What are you trying to accomplish?12:21
iHeartKem_!plf12:21
trappistdjteenbot: the browser caches it12:21
ubotuWish i knew, iHeartKem_12:21
iHeartKem_ubotu doesnt know what PLF is12:21
ubotuiHeartKem_: I don't know, could you explain it?12:21
stef65iHeartKem: U need to get this from the debian marillat repo's... but don't add them to ur sources.list...12:21
djteenbotcan we create our own chat rooms on here on linux?12:21
_jasonteach him12:21
HymnToLifeiHeartKem > google it12:21
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trappist!tell iHeartKem_ about repos12:21
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iHeartKem_hmmm12:21
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cafuego!info plf12:22
trappistiHeartKem_: iirc plf is a mandrake thing12:22
synackuatorhow come ubuntu tells me that my flash drive is read only when it's not12:22
iHeartKem_i know how to do it on other distro's12:22
cafuego!plf is <reply> #mandrake is there -->12:22
ubotuokay, cafuego12:22
synackuatori've tried chmod and chowning it12:22
djteenbotThanks yall for your help :)12:22
iHeartKem_can i extract the codecs from the mplayer website into the mplayer codecs directory on ubuntu ?12:22
iHeartKem_(if i can find it of course)12:22
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trappistiHeartKem_: yes, into /usr/lib/win3212:22
jessidhello!!!12:22
chaumurkyhm hdparm -E1 doesn't seem to make a difference. Bummer.12:22
cafuegosynackuator: chmod and chown don't have any affect on filesystems that don't support permissions (like fat32)12:22
j2daoshcan someone explain to me why i dont have permission to use my sound card?12:22
cafuego!w32codecs12:23
jessidsome of you have configured the puto wine???12:23
_jasoniHeartKem, go to the link ubotu gave you and you can install it easily from a .deb12:23
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Seveasplf is also an Ubuntu thing12:23
cafuego!tell  iHeartKem_ -about w32codecs12:23
trappistyeah?12:23
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stef65j2daosh: maybe u r not a member of group 'audio' ???12:23
synackuatorcafuego, it's mouted rw 0 0 on /media/sda1 vfat12:23
j2daoshhow do i make myself a member of that group?12:23
Seveas!no plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf12:23
ubotuokay, Seveas12:23
cafuegosynackuator: Yes, root can write to it then, users can't, by default.12:23
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nipplesrulzsup ^_^12:24
nipplesrulzok new project:12:24
synackuatorcafuego, root can't even write to it, but i can use it on windows just fine12:24
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nipplesrulzi want to access r/w my ext3 partition from windows12:24
nipplesrulzhow can i do such a think?12:24
jessidi mean, i have not been able to fix this error: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.12:24
skonAnyone know why my libqt3-mt-dev package is broken??It doesn't work12:24
nipplesrulz*thing12:24
HymnToLifenipplesrulz > you can't12:24
active-matrixhow do i su root12:24
active-matrixsu root12:24
j2daoshstef... how do i edit the group?12:24
active-matrixdoes not work12:24
Seveasnipplesrulz, google.com/search?q=explore2fs12:24
gnomefreakactive-matrix  use sudo12:24
Dr_WillisHuh? I r/w my ext3 from windows all the time.12:24
nipplesrulzHymnToLife i heard there was a driver for that.. yeah ok thanx sev12:24
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j2daoshactive... sudo12:24
bimberij2daosh: type "groups" to see it you already are, if not "sudo adduser <username> audio"12:25
nipplesrulzer Seveas :D12:25
Seveas!tell active-matrix about sudo12:25
active-matrixi dont want to use sudo12:25
dooglusHymnToLife: what do you mean, you can't?12:25
active-matrixi want to use root12:25
HymnToLifeSeveas > if I remember well, explore2fs is read-only12:25
Dr_Willisnipplesrulz,  http://www.fs-driver.org/12:25
cafuego!plf is also for filthy i386 users only12:25
ubotuokay, cafuego12:25
bimberiactive-matrix: sudo -i12:25
Seveasactive-matrix, with sudo you cab become root12:25
gnomefreakactive-matrix su isnt used by default in ubuntu12:25
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Seveas!plf =~ s/filthy //12:25
ubotuSeveas: OK12:25
active-matrixi can not edit the proc with sudo damni12:25
active-matrixdamnit12:25
cafuegoactive-matrix: DO NOT just willy-nilly mess in /proc!12:25
active-matrixi need root12:25
siriusnovalol12:25
j2daoshman12:26
Seveasactive-matrix, 'edit proc?'12:26
cafuegoactive-matrix: You obviously have no idea what you're doing there!12:26
siriusnovaediting proc :)12:26
HymnToLifeactive-matrix > why do you want to edit /proc in the first place ?12:26
siriusnovahehe12:26
cafuegoactive-matrix: WHAT are you trying to ACCOMPLISH?12:26
northieIn a freak accident, I learnt the other day what 'sudo' meant in Spanish.12:26
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stef65nipplesrulz: there's only unstable ext2-drivers for win2000 and xp.... but be aware... it's for ext2, so there's pretty of a chance to ruin ur partition if u write to them under windows....12:26
northieIt's fitting.12:26
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Seveasactive-matrix, google.com/search?q=clue12:26
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jessidnone have played with wine?12:26
Seveasnorthie, enlighten us12:26
iHeartKem_Thanks, I figured it out12:26
northieSeveas: Sudo = I sweat.12:26
cafuegoactive-matrix: Because otherwise you will BREAK your system.12:26
dooglusnipplesrulz: this will let you read and write ext3 from windows: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd12:26
HymnToLifelmao12:26
j2daoshok i got nothing with google...12:26
iHeartKem_cat /proc/cpuinfo12:26
Seveasnorthie, hehe12:27
j2daoshi cant get my sound card to work12:27
northieit's awesoe.12:27
active-matrixoh yes i want to break my system12:27
northieHey j2, join the club.12:27
j2daoshlol12:27
Seveasactive-matrix, http://www.microsoft.com/12:27
northiej2daosh, checked all the wiki thingies?12:27
bimberi!sound12:27
ubotu[sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:27
cafuegoactive-matrix: Then random 'dd' calls would be more efficient.12:27
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Superbobj2daosh, whats the problem12:27
HymnToLifeactive-matrix > get a hammer, you will save you some hassle then :p12:27
iHeartKem_he can't play mp3s I bet12:27
northieHey Superbob, help me instead.12:27
HymnToLifelmao Seveas12:27
Superbobhmmm12:28
j2daoshesd says i dont have permission...totem says i dont have the proper decoders, and xmms says something is blocking my soundcard/its not configured right/i have the wrong oputput set12:28
active-matrixhow can i get my root password12:28
cmathesonactive-matrix: maybe 'sudo passwd'?12:28
bimberiactive-matrix: "sudo -i", with your own password, will get you a root shell12:28
cafuegoactive-matrix: Can you answer my question? What are you trying to accomplish by modifyning info in /proc?12:28
stef65j2daosh: xmms needs to be told to use esd...12:28
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Kyralwhat12:28
Seveasactive-matrix, 1 tablespoon of honey, 3 cloves of garlic and a teaspoon of cinnamon12:28
j2daoshthe volume control says i dont have a soundcard12:28
Kyralmodifying info in proc12:28
j2daoshthe device manager see it12:29
Kyralwtf why?!12:29
HymnToLifecafuego > he told it, he wants to break his system12:29
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cafuegoKyral: yes, I've been trying to get him to tell me for 10 minutes.12:29
siriusnovaj2daosh - what kind of computer do you have, laptop or desktop?12:29
Superbobj2daosh, bear in mind you can normally have only one audio app running at a time12:29
northieHey j2daosh, what's your card?12:29
j2daoshdesktop12:29
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bulio|lapcan I install an older ubuntu version?12:29
j2daoshyeah i know super... but i cant get any of them to work12:29
bulio|lapI keep getting debootstrap problem12:29
Kyralj2daosh: You are nuts12:29
northieSuperbob: My Sb Live! works just fine from the Live CD, but not at all in my proper install.  I've switched cards a few times, so I suppose that'll explain it, but is there a way I can fix my sound without reinstalling Ubuntu yet again?12:29
HymnToLifebulio|lap > why not ?12:29
bulio|lapdebootstrap problem12:29
j2daoshwhy am i nuts?12:30
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Kyralj2daosh: You CANNOT modify info in /proc12:30
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j2daoshlol im not nuts... im a noob...12:30
Superbobnorthie, tyoe alsamixer make sure the channels are not muted12:30
exosystHi again, fixed wireless (for those who remember question). Is there a way to install an older version of some software as i think i broke SMEG by using a new library12:30
bimberiKyral: j2daosh isn't the one wanting to modify /proc12:30
siriusnovaj2daish - laptop or desktop?12:30
j2daoshim not trying to mod the /proc info... i dont even know what the /proc is12:30
_jasonKyral, lol wrong person12:30
j2daoshlol12:30
j2daoshdesktop12:30
iHeartKem_cat /proc/cpuinfo12:30
iHeartKem_;)12:30
northieSuperbob: haven't got alsamixer, in fact.12:30
j2daoshim not gonna mess with files i dont know anything about... im not stupid12:30
siriusnovaj2daosh - what kind of sound card is it?12:30
Superbob/proc/sleep12:30
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j2daoshits a ac 97 realtek thing from via tech12:31
cafuegoyeah, let me upgrade the CPU by setting the mhz to 3000 in /proc12:31
siriusnovadisable "Plug and Play" in the bios12:31
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Kyralj2daosh: /proc is a "mirror" of the current system processes12:31
siriusnovathat might help12:31
HymnToLifelmao cafuego12:31
Superbobnorthie, really i thought it was a default package?12:31
j2daoshkryal... then i definately aint touching that yet12:31
northieSuperbob: but anyhow, aplay -l says I haven't got a card. lspci finds it, thopugh.12:31
cafuegoHymnToLife: don't laugh, I'm leet!12:31
Kyralits quite literally generated when the system boots12:31
HymnToLifeand give it 1G ahe memory12:31
HymnToLifecache*12:31
Kyralj2daosh: I thought it was literally impossible to modify the ifo12:31
northieSuperbob, Well, hoom. All right, I have it, but it won't open.12:31
northieSuperbob: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory12:32
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cmathesonnorthie: sounds like you're sound card wasn't detected... does /dev/dsp show up?12:32
j2daoshlol i could find a way12:32
cafuegoHymnToLife: It's alrteady got 1.5GB (and I note it's swapping 13Mb too!)12:32
rounecan someone help me, just a short question?12:32
northieShoot, roune.12:32
j2daoshand it would be a complete accident12:32
j2daoshlol12:32
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HymnToLifew00t, THAT is one hell of a CPU :p12:33
Superbobnorthie, you most likely dont have the module loaded for it12:33
Dr_WillisKyral,  be sure ones not allready been done. :P12:33
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cafuegoHymnToLife:12:33
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stef65So nobody in here is having a clue about the broken via-xorg driver in breezy? just a link to a faq or something to read???12:33
HymnToLifesure :p12:33
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j2daoshnorthie im having the same problem kinda...12:33
Dr_Willisstef65,  checked the wiki and forums yet?12:33
=== cafuego wonders what's eating all that ram, coz it's not being used as cache/buffer
stef65yup!12:33
j2daoshmine says "ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0"12:33
rounei reacently installed ubuntu, and then i needed to use su, but, i didnt know the pass .. Oo12:34
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northiecmatheson: Well. Hmm. I don't think so.12:34
j2daoshALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Permission denied12:34
cmathesoncafuego: did you try running top and sorting by memory usage?12:34
Kyralubotu tell roune about RootSudo12:34
northieSuperbob, that's what, modprobe emu10k1?12:34
rouneso i types sudo su and made a new pass, is that bad?12:34
crimsunj2daosh: are you using Breezy?12:34
cafuegocmatheson: Yeah, biggest is X with about 80Mb12:34
j2daoshwhatever that means12:34
Dr_Willisroune,  Congratulations! you just asked FAQ #1.12:34
j2daoshyeah im using breezy12:34
Dr_Willis:)12:34
skonAnyone know why the libqt3-mt-dev package is broken whenever I try to use it with apt-get or synaptic?12:34
crimsunj2daosh: cat /proc/asound/cards12:34
rounelol12:34
cmathesonnorthie: ok, if you don't have /dev/dsp then you don't have the appropriate module loaded for your sound cared12:34
rounei see :D12:34
cafuegoroune: You should have used 'sudo' and your user password.12:34
Kyralroune: Checkout the link that Ubotu pmsged12:34
rounebut i dont like sudo :D12:34
northiecmatheson, fixitfixit?12:35
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j2daosh0 [V8235          ] : VIA8233 - VIA 823512:35
j2daosh                     VIA 8235 with AD1980 at 0xe000, irq 2212:35
cmathesoncafuego: crazy, and free doesn't show it being used as cache... i don't know12:35
cafuegoroune: It's exactly THE SAME as 'su'12:35
cmathesonnorthie: i don't know, what kind of sound card is it12:35
Kyralcafuego: its more like su -c12:35
j2daoshshould i edit that somhow?12:35
rounebut its 2 charachters longer :D12:35
cafuegoroune: 'sudo -s' -> shell.12:35
crimsunj2daosh: you haven't tried to compile your own ALSA drivers, have you?12:35
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kaoticorderDoes anyone have experience with GRUB and IDE-PCI cards?12:35
j2daoshlol i dont even know what compiling is lol12:35
northieWhat is /dev/dsp supposed to be, anyhow? I mean, how do I check if I have it or not?12:35
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cmathesonnorthie: ls /dev/dsp12:35
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j2daoshu do a cd /dev/dsp12:36
cmathesonnorthie: it's the sound-card's device file12:36
crimsunj2daosh: paste the output from ''lsmod'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:36
northieI have that. And a dsp1 and a dspw.12:36
crimsunnorthie: /dev/dsp is provided in Ubuntu by ALSA's OSS emulation12:36
stef65northie: a simple 'ls /dev/dsp*' will tell you....12:36
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tom__hello12:37
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j2daoshok its there...whatever all that was12:37
northieRight. And I've got stuff called /dev/dsp  /dev/dsp1  /dev/dspW12:37
tom__is this a ubuntu chat room?12:37
kaoticorderDoes anyone have experience with the GRUB CLI?12:37
northieYes, tom. Yes.12:37
trappisttom__: it's an ubuntu channel.12:37
_jasontom__, support channel12:37
crimsunj2daosh: please pass me the url next time12:37
soldieruk400tell you what iff some one wanted to compleatly fix my unbuntu in terms of stile and look id gladly let some body use remote lol12:37
tom__sweet!!!!12:37
stef65northie: so ur a nearly a recording studio owner... :-)12:37
northiestef65, har-di-fricking-har.12:37
Superbobnorthie, and lsmod shows some snd_ modules12:37
soldieruk400im scared of mucking it up :O)12:37
northiei have no soound.12:37
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j2daoshoh... im sorry12:38
crimsunnorthie: cat /proc/asound/cards12:38
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northieAnd the card's an Sb Live! 5.1, to whoever did the asking.12:38
tom__so does anyone use darkstat12:38
tom__?12:38
rounewell, can u use su insread of sudo?12:38
roune^^12:38
crimsunnorthie: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:38
rambo3same as mine cound card12:38
purpleheartusmcAny ideas of where to get a linux ready box for cheap?12:38
PhoulGah anyone know about boa contructer?12:38
Kyralpurpleheartusmc: junkyard? <Seriously>12:38
Phoulconstructer12:39
rambo3walmart12:39
PhoulAnyone know about it12:39
crimsunj2daosh: (still waiting for the url)12:39
j2daoshdid u get it?12:39
purpleheartusmcty rambo12:39
j2daoshi dont know how to use irc really12:39
northiecrimsun - no need, it's short: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory12:39
PhoulAnyone know about boa constructer?12:39
crimsunnorthie: lspci -v |grep -i audio12:39
crimsunj2daosh: just paste me the url of the paste12:39
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northiecrimsun: 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)12:39
j2daoshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/567912:39
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trappistPhoul: some python thing iirc.  an ide?12:40
bimberiroune: well yes, but it means setting up a root password, meaning another password to manage12:40
Nerenedpurpleheartusmc: mine was from the trash12:40
PhoulGah does anyone know how to USE it12:40
nipplesrulzSeveas http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html12:40
_jasonPhoul, have you visited #python yet?12:40
nipplesrulzim gonna test it with read/write12:40
crimsunj2daosh: and output from ''amixer''?12:40
nipplesrulzill write up a report in a week or two on the forums ;)_12:40
rouneokay, :D12:40
trappistPhoul: might try in #python12:40
rouneum,, did u have the link? ^^12:41
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bulio|lapI have ubuntu 4.1012:41
northieCan I unload one of the lsmod things?12:41
crimsunnorthie: I need ''lsmod'' output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org, too12:41
bulio|lapcan I upgrade to 5.10 usintg apt-get?12:41
northieIt might be my now disabled onboard blocking stuff up.12:41
crimsunbulio|lap: yes12:41
northiecrimsun, getting right on it. thanks.12:41
techrushi like ubuntu12:41
j2daoshadmin@Admin:~$ amixer12:41
j2daoshamixer: Mixer attach default error: Permission denied12:41
techrushit has the polish and everything just works like on pclinuxos12:41
techrushbut it feels faster12:41
crimsunj2daosh: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload12:42
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j2daoshdidn't work12:43
northiecrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/568012:43
j2daoshadmin@Admin:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload12:43
j2daoshUnloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device.12:43
j2daoshLoading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device.12:43
northieI wanna do that forced reload thing.12:43
northieThat looks hot.12:43
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crimsunj2daosh: and now amixer? (don't flood here)12:44
northiecrimsun, tell me to do a forced reload.12:44
j2daoshit did all that and "new devices" popped up but it said null and when i went to the sys->pref->sounds it doesn't give me an sound cards to chose12:44
crimsunnorthie: you have OSS/Free drivers loaded.12:44
crimsunnorthie: sudo modprobe -r emu10k1 ac97_codec12:44
northieWhat does the -r do?12:45
crimsunit unloads them12:45
northieOkay.12:45
j2daoshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/568112:45
northieAnd now I should do what?12:45
crimsunnorthie: then, sudo modprobe snd-emu10k112:45
northieFATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 not found.12:45
northieFATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k112:45
crimsunnorthie: did you compile your own kernel and/or ALSA drivers?12:45
northieNo.12:45
bulio|lapwill I have a better chance of no corruption by using bittorrent?12:46
Kyralbulio|lap: its more like burning it slower12:46
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crimsunnorthie: what Ubuntu install is this?12:46
crimsunj2daosh: groups|grep audio && ls -l /dev/snd/controlC012:47
northieBreezy. The thing that could've messed with it is that I've played around with a pair of different cards, including my onboard, with this install.12:47
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crimsunnorthie: meaning what version and how it was installed12:47
z0rzhmm12:47
crimsunnorthie: uname -r12:47
northie2.6.12-10-k712:47
bulio|lapor should I dl ubuntu 5.0412:48
bulio|lapand upgrade?12:48
j2daoshall it did was give me a command line?12:48
z0rzalrigh tI'm trying to install centericq in synaptic and it's wanting to Breezy Badger CD12:48
z0rzwtf12:48
bulio|lapdling with bittorrent12:48
crimsunj2daosh: aha, that's why.12:48
z0rzwhy can't it download it of the net?12:48
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j2daoshwhats why?12:48
bulio|lapwhat speed should I burn it at?12:48
crimsunj2daosh: sudo adduser $USER audio12:48
crimsunj2daosh: then log out and back into GNOME12:48
trappistz0rz: update your sources.list and take the cd sources out12:48
bulio|lapwhat burning speed should I set it?12:49
bulio|lapthis laptop burn at 8X max12:49
bulio|lapso 4X?12:49
arthurhello, can someone help me, i'm actually trying to install daimonin on my ubuntu linux12:49
z0rztrappist wher's sources.list at?12:49
trappistin /etc/apt12:49
northieYou're fretting too much, bulio. 4x sounds fine, but 8x probably would be just as.12:49
j2daoshit says im already a member of audio12:49
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j2daoshbut when i do groups it doesn't say i am?....12:49
z0rzcould I just get it with apt-get?12:49
crimsunj2daosh: then you couldn't have had just a blank line returned12:49
crimsunj2daosh: echo $USER12:50
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trappistz0rz: yes, after you fix your sources.list12:50
bulio|lapnorthie: 2 other CDs with seperate PCs and .isos failed12:50
j2daosh$user returns a blank space12:50
northiebulio|lap, Jesus.12:50
northiebulio|lap, Okay. I'll be quiet.12:50
j2daoshadmin@Admin:~$ echo $user12:50
j2daoshadmin@Admin:~$12:50
bulio|lap?12:50
bulio|lapexactly12:50
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Dr_Willis echo $USER12:50
j2daoshexcept there is a space between the 2 prompts12:50
j2daoshoh12:51
j2daoshlol12:51
Dr_Willisnot 'user' :P12:51
crimsunnorthie: sudo depmod -a && modinfo snd_emu10k1|head -112:51
bulio|lapshould I download once more, burn at 4X, and dl with bittorrent?12:51
j2daoshforgot its all case sensitve12:51
bulio|lapor get 5.04?12:51
arthuranyone to help me in compiling daimonin ?12:51
z0rzapt-get centericq?12:51
northiecrimsun, modinfo: could not find module snd_emu10k112:51
j2daoshok i did and it showed me my name12:51
j2daosh...12:51
bulio|lapanyone?12:51
arthursomenone12:51
z0rzand what do I need to change in sources.list ? I commented out the cd-rom...12:51
arthuri'm french12:51
B_166-ERwhy cant I just install the updates ?  it always says that it wasnt able to install everything12:51
arthuri dont speack english very well12:51
crimsunnorthie: are you _positive_ you haven't mucked with anything kernel-related?12:51
j2daoshok im added now12:51
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crimsunj2daosh: now, groups|grep audio12:51
j2daoshkeeps giving me a blank line12:52
j2daoshdmin@Admin:~$ groups |grep audio12:52
j2daoshadmin@Admin:~$12:52
northiecrimsun, Eh. Yeah. Yes. This has been clean since format, except hardware.12:52
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crimsunj2daosh: sudo adduser admin audio12:52
j2daoshbut im added here "admin@Admin:~$ groups admin12:53
j2daoshadmin : admin daemon bin sys adm tty disk mail audio backup crontab ssh12:53
arthurso, nobody to help me ?12:53
northiecrimsun, And possibly an attempt at alsa drivers for a bad card. can't quite recall.12:53
northiecrimsun, But went the module route with those, not the kernel one.12:53
arthur( pleaaaase )12:53
B_166-ERhow can i have unidentified packages in the updates if only universe and MAIN repos are activated ?12:53
crimsunnorthie: please reinstall the kernel image: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)12:54
northiecrimsun, One thing I did was change a module conf. somewhere or other, at the behest of someone in the channel, to include the line 'emu10k1'.12:54
Art_What is the best way to get all of the etra stuff: Java, Flash, RealPlayer, MPlayer, etc. working in kubuntu?  Is there a good HOWTO?12:54
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northiearthur, quest-que tu voulais?12:54
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crimsunnorthie: no, you must not use emu10k1.12:54
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bobbyghello12:54
arthurnorthie : je n'arrive pas  compiler daimonin12:54
Art_extra12:54
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crimsunarthur: please be patient.12:54
arthurok, i'll be patient, no problem12:54
Cokeycould someone help me?12:54
B_166-ER#ubuntu-fr pour un canal en francais12:54
bobbygis there a really good slide show app for ubuntu/12:55
crimsunj2daosh: ls -l /dev/snd/controlC012:55
northiecrimsun, okie.12:55
crimsunarthur: what's the issue?12:55
_jasonbobbyg, OOo Impress12:55
arthurthanks12:55
bobbygimpress!?12:55
Cokeyim trying to install VLC media player on this and i dont know how, could someone help?12:55
arthurwell, i have lots of errors about SDL12:55
j2daoshcrw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 0 2005-12-12 17:42 /dev/snd/controlC012:55
chrisx1how do i unpack a tar.gz12:55
arthurbut i did install SDL and it's source12:55
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arthurbut there's always the problem12:55
HymnToLifeCokey > sudo apt-get install vlc12:55
crimsunCokey: enable the universe repository and install vlc12:55
bobbygwho is this seveas guy12:55
phreqchirsx1: tar -zx <file>12:55
crimsunbobbyg: he's a Ubuntu member, why?12:55
skonNobody can help me with trying to install libqt3-mt-dev via apt-get and synaptic???12:55
chrisx1ty12:55
KyralCokey: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-alsa12:56
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phreqDe nada.12:56
Kyralbobbyg: Seveas is uber cool dude12:56
bobbygI had friends of mine who were bumped from here and I know they didn't do anything wrong12:56
HymnToLifebobbyg > yoou'd better not piss Seveas off12:56
bobbyghe bumped them12:56
phreqman gzip & man tar will be helpful.12:56
HymnToLifeor he will do you nasty things12:56
bobbygI piss off anyone that has an adult body and a childish mind12:56
crimsunj2daosh: whoami12:56
chrisx1bobbyg: they obviosly did....12:56
bobbygnot likely12:56
j2daoshadmin12:56
chrisx1Yes...12:57
Seveasbobbyg, instead of ranting, why not simply ask?12:57
northiecrimsun, it's reinstalled.12:57
KyralIndeed!12:57
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northiecrimsun, restart?12:57
bobbyghthe only possiblity is that this seveas character is an extreme immature12:57
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chrisx1Just like u at this moment in time12:57
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chrisx1:(12:57
j2daoshlol12:57
SeveasI don't need such crap12:57
HymnToLifebobbyg > yeah, coming in to complain abouh nothing without asking is s0000000000000 mature...12:57
bulio|lapanyone else have debootstrap problem?12:57
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crimsunnorthie: no, modinfo snd_emu10k1|head -112:58
chrisx1Just like u at this moment in time12:58
j2daoshwell thats what happens when u talk about a guy that hosts a repository12:58
j2daoshlol12:58
chrisx1:D12:58
bobbyghello seveas12:58
bobbygvery clever12:58
bobbygbut again childish12:58
chrisx1bobbyg: stfu u kid12:58
Kyral....this guy sounds familier12:58
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j2daoshlol sev12:58
chrisx1BAN HIM:D12:58
chrisx1lol12:58
chrisx1oo12:58
chrisx1to slow12:58
chrisx1:p12:58
afordif a .htaccess file does not point to a password file, is there a default password file anywhere that I can add one to?12:58
j2daoshjenda was right.. lol ur pretty cool12:58
Seveaschrisx1, do NOT ask for bans12:58
chrisx1o12:58
chrisx1:$12:58
SeveasI don't like banning people12:58
MickMcMackSeveas, can you add the "ask protocol" to the bot. >_>;12:58
chrisx1U know u do:D12:58
techrushhow can i make it so ubuntu does not try to syncronize the system clock with that website clock ?12:58
trappistaford: no12:58
Seveas!tell MickMcMack about add12:59
afordtrappist12:59
crimsunbanning is only used as a last resort here.12:59
afordtrappist where do I add a user then?12:59
ompaulchrisx1, you have been asked to put it all on one line that is so much noise, it is not right12:59
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Seveastechrush, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove12:59
skontechrush: Adminstration: Date and Time12:59
afordthat will work with the .htaccess file?12:59
techrushthanks to both of you12:59
MickMcMackSeveas, awesome, didn't know it was public. ^_^12:59
northiecrimsun, filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko12:59
j2daoshok damnit... this sound card thing is kicking my @ss...12:59
chrisx1ompaul: sowwy </312:59
andrew_I just added a catchall virtual user to my postfix config, and now all mail is being delivered there - even stuff that should go to real users. Is there a way to get postfix to process the real stuff first, then the catchall?01:00
j2daoshhow do i set up ssh so i can let someone in to fix it?01:00
Seveasj2daosh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:00
crimsunj2daosh: hmm, so your user is named 'admin'?01:00
j2daoshyeah01:00
crimsunj2daosh: and ''groups|grep audio'' returns nothing?01:00
skonjwda0sh: make sure you have your router forwarded to accept port 22 and forward it to your computer's IP01:00
j2daoshnope01:00
Cokeydoes anyone know how to make dc++ work with linux?01:01
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ompaulchrisx1, pm?01:01
j2daoshit only says im part of the audio if i do a groups admin01:01
crimsunj2daosh: but ''groups admin|grep audio'' does?01:01
northieCokey, use synaptic to grab valknut?01:01
j2daoshyep01:01
chrisx1ompaul: why?01:01
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czer323This channel is amazing.01:01
northieCokey, valknut's an opensource, linux-compatible dc client.01:01
czer323I love just sitting reading everything.01:01
Cokeythat will work in place of dc++01:01
j2daoshwhere is the source .list file?01:01
czer323it's like a streaming source of knowledge.01:01
j2daoshi have to rename it back to source.list01:01
crimsunj2daosh: try this: create a new user, sudo adduser test && sudo adduser test audio01:01
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Cokeythanks01:02
crimsunj2daosh: then log in as the 'test' user01:02
northieczer323, you'll go mad.01:02
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Cokeyoh and how can i see my current upload and download speeds? and how do i cap them?01:02
czer323They say that genius borders madness. ;)01:02
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crimsunnorthie: did you paste the output I requested?01:03
j2daoshhow do i log in as test without logging out of me?01:03
northieczer323, so that's why canada's where it's at..01:03
northiecrimsun, filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko01:03
phreqj2, su01:03
crimsunj2daosh: Applications> System Tools01:03
crimsunj2daosh: try the login as different/new user01:03
crimsunnorthie: good. now, sudo modprobe snd-emu10k101:04
afordif a .htaccess file does not point to a password file, is there a default password file anywhere that I can add usename and password? if so where is it? if not how do I add a new username and password that the htaccess file will recognise?01:04
northiecrimsun, Hey, stuff's going down.01:04
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northiecrimsun, things popped up in my gnome saying it'd detected stuff. So I had messed the kernel up after all?01:04
crimsunnorthie: not the kernel, just the drivers for your sound card.01:04
j2daoshwell what the hell... the test account works01:04
northiecrimsun, but still had to redownload the kernel?01:05
j2daoshok01:05
j2daoshcan i delete the admin account and rename the test account admin?01:05
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crimsunj2daosh: I recommend you create a new user and use that one instead of 'admin'01:05
j2daoshok01:05
northiecrimsun: I can choose a sound card under preferences/sound now, which is nice. Should it work right awaY?01:05
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crimsunj2daosh: then please file a bug on bugzilla with the description that a user named 'admin' doesn't have proper access to groups listed in ''groups''01:06
techrushthat is a very nice feature northie01:06
crimsunnorthie: it requires a restart of the sound apps01:06
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j2daoshlol do wha?01:07
Cokeyvalknut didnt work01:07
crimsunj2daosh: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:07
MurrlinI deleted the only 'xserver', even tho gdm starts one for me, in the config01:07
crimsunj2daosh: have you created a new user yet?01:07
northieWon't take up more of your time, crimsun. Big thanks.01:07
j2daoshyeah01:07
j2daoshcreated a "shared" account01:07
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crimsunnorthie: np, you're not taking up my time01:07
arthurhere are my errors with daimonin's "make all" : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/3345301:07
MickMcMackubotu ask is The ask protocol: FACT, asking to ask a question is the second biggest waste of bandwidth on the intarweb, (the first being this message), so please don't ask to ask, just ask away!01:07
ubotu...but ask is already something else...01:07
MickMcMack>_<01:07
MickMcMack~asl01:07
MickMcMack~ask *01:07
Cokeyhow can i open .avi's on this thing?01:07
ToR911can someone recomend me, a Light c++ editor (will be nice having debug & compile in it) its for vmware with only 192Ram so heavy editors are a problem01:07
MickMcMackLies and slander. -_-;01:07
Dr_Willisintarweb ?01:08
northieWorked anyhow, crimsun. I've got sound. Awesome. One week without it, I think I developed tics.01:08
Razor-Xnickrud: asl?!?!?!01:08
Razor-Xerrr01:08
MickMcMackDr_Acemaster, yes indeedly.01:08
SeveasToR911, vim01:08
MickMcMack* Dr_Willis01:08
Murrlinok there's the config screen01:08
Razor-XMickMcMack: asl?!?!01:08
Cokeywhat is the best dc++ for linux?01:08
Murrlinwhat do I enter?01:08
Dr_Willis;)01:08
MickMcMack!tell MickMcMack about ask01:08
SeveasRazor-X, it was a typo :)01:08
Cokeyit doesnt find valknut01:08
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Razor-XMickMcMack: 999/n/australia's down under01:08
Razor-X:P01:09
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Razor-XSeveas: I realized that, had to play on it though :P01:09
MickMcMackx)01:09
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MickMcMackubotu ask-protocol is The Ask Protocol: FACT, asking to ask a question is the second biggest waste of bandwidth on the intarweb, (the first being this message), so please don't ask to ask, just ask away!01:09
ubotuMickMcMack: okay01:09
MickMcMackWehay. ^_^01:09
Pianomany2kWhere can a find an MP3 decoder? I'm surprised it isn't standard with the installation01:09
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Seveas!tell Pianomany2k about mp301:10
soldieruk400i need one for my ipod to01:10
crimsunj2daosh: ok, what is the output from ''groups'' ?01:10
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Cokeywhich is best for .nzb files?01:12
Cokeyi have no idea how to open them01:12
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crimsunCokey: I presume you could try newsleecher in wine01:12
Razor-XCokey: I would suggest a google search :P, and maybe a bit of context on what's in the file, and where you got it from01:12
Dido-!tell Dido- about rar01:12
Dido-;))01:12
Cokeyfrom any .nzb file search01:13
Cokeynzbsrus.com01:13
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Cokeyhow do i configure wine01:13
Cokeyi tried earlier01:13
crimsunyou shouldn't need to configure it at all01:13
Dido-Cokey hard01:13
crimsunjust install it, then: wine foo.exe01:13
Cokeyhow do i install it?01:13
crimsunsudo aptitude install wine01:13
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sklavwhich version of wine is in the repo?01:14
crimsun!info wine01:14
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB01:14
Pianomany2kSeveas: I didn't catch that message about the MP3...my connection locked01:14
CokeyReading package lists... Done01:14
CokeyBuilding dependency tree01:14
CokeyInitializing package states... Done01:14
CokeyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:14
CokeyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:14
Cokeythats what it said01:14
chrisx1!tell Pianomany2k about mp301:15
sklavare u using synaptic?01:15
crimsunCokey: close synaptic or any other tools01:15
Cokeyok01:15
JaymacCokey, if synaptic and update are closed, check service monitor01:15
Cokeypastebin.com/46164101:16
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Cokeyis that correct?01:16
chrisx1np: Eminem - When I'm Gone - Dirty01:17
chrisx1:P01:17
Dido-HymnToLife are you using xmms? tell me how to get that plugin installed if you are01:17
pulverhey! i know some ppl that know some ppl that barely know howto point and click on stuff so i was thinking is there a way to add a windoze self-extracting executable to an archive like zip, tar, rar etc from within linux?01:17
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crimsunchrisx1: that's considered spam, too.01:17
chrisx1:(01:17
HymnToLifeDido- > nope, I'm using amarok01:17
Cokeywhat is service monitor?01:18
Dido-chrisx1  are you using xmms? tell me how to get that plugin installed if you are01:18
chrisx1Dido-: i got xmms01:18
Dido-;] 01:18
Dido-oh01:18
Dido-;)01:18
chrisx1xlack for xchat01:18
chrisx1nees xmms for perl01:18
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chrisx1*needs01:18
tj_hello all01:18
pulverhello01:18
tipnmohello01:18
HymnToLifehi tj_01:19
tj_any one know where to put scripts of startup01:19
tj_i thought it was /etc/init.d/rcx.d  but its not there01:19
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bimberiCokey: are running ubuntu on PowerPC?01:19
techrushmmm power pc01:20
Seveastj_, /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to enable them01:20
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Cokeyno01:20
Cokeylive cd01:20
Cokeyon mtiger01:20
tj_Seveas, do you create file?01:20
dnBcan someone tell me where the xchat folder is? on www.xchat.org it says /usr/share/xchat/ , however that folder doesnt exist01:20
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Cokeyim new, if you couldnt tell....i just got it earlier today01:20
nipplesrulzhey Seveas what was that nice thing that access linux files from windows? based on putty or the like? scm sfm stp or something?01:21
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Cokeyive never used linux and need all the help i can get01:21
HymnToLifednB > to do what ?01:21
KyraldnB: you mean personal settings?01:21
SeveasdnB, dpkg -L xchat01:21
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Cokeyi just need to know how to get dc++ and how to open .nzb files01:21
cafuegomtiger?01:21
HymnToLifeCokey > you've come to the right place then :)01:21
bimberiCokey: wine only runs on i38601:21
Cokeytiger01:21
Seveasnipplesrulz, winscp01:21
KyraldnB: Your personal settings are in ~/.xchat201:21
Cokeyoh it does/01:21
cafuegoSo on powerpc after all.01:21
Seveasor pscp from putty01:21
nipplesrulzsweet thanx Seveas!01:21
dnBKyral, im actually looking for the pngs for the 'orbs' near the userlist01:21
nipplesrulzpscp? o.O01:21
nipplesrulzwhich do you think is a little betteh?01:21
dnBwhich should be in /usr/share/xchat01:21
KyraldnB: NFI ;P01:21
dnBSeveas, thanks01:21
nipplesrulzpersonal opinion and all01:21
Cokeywell is there something else to open .nzb files in powerpc?01:21
dnBKyral, :)01:22
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cafuegoWhat is a .nzb file?01:22
cafuegoApart from BZN in reverse?01:22
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Seveasnipplesrulz, ditching windows and using Ubuntu exclusively would be better01:22
ZugwrackAnyone tell me a easy way to cat a list together of files I just installed with synaptic?01:22
Cokeyits from usenet01:23
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tipnmocould anyone help me with alittle dirver install problem (first try at linux)01:23
kemikSeveas:  everybody cant do tht :(01:23
ZugwrackOr does synaptic keep a log?01:23
Cokeydownloading programs, movies, music01:23
tipnmoi follow the directions exactly01:23
cafuegoZugwrack: synaptic keeps a log01:23
kemikfor.ex. there's no skype+wine&broodwar love in ubuntu01:23
tipnmoand i get this ian@tipnmo:~/rtl8180-0.21$ make && make install01:23
tipnmoMakefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/.config: No such file or directory01:23
tipnmomake: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/.config'.  Stop.01:23
Cokeywhen you save them off of a website their .nzb files01:23
kemik(and the ATI drivers in breezy are horrible)01:23
nipplesrulzSeveas currently with a dual boot box and a linux only box..01:23
Seveas.nzb is not usable on linux01:23
Cokeywhat?01:23
Cokeyfor real?01:23
nipplesrulztill i get better at a few things i need it >_<01:23
dnBSeveas, knzb?01:23
Zugwrackcafuego: Thanks..in /var/log? Or in the synaptic dir?01:23
Seveasnipplesrulz, I never used either one of those, so I can't say01:23
nipplesrulzbesides there is no good replacement for utorrent.com01:23
crimsuntipnmo: install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential and gcc-3.401:23
SeveasdnB, are you kidding me?01:23
Seveas!info knzb01:24
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dnB!info knzb01:24
Seveas<ubotu> Package 'knzb' does not exist.01:24
dnBwtf01:24
dnBbrb01:24
cafuegoZugwrack: Syanptic -> File-> History01:24
tipnmoi did get build ess.01:24
Cokeyno just .nzb01:24
Zugwrackcafuego: Kewl thanks!!01:24
Cokeyno knzb01:24
earldude1Why is it that apache 2 gets installed in the /etc/ directory when I read about tutorials that say the server is supposed to be installed in /usr/local/web/apache???01:24
dnBSeveas, http://dmp.org.uk/linux/knzb/01:24
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cmathesonearldude1: that would only be if you compiled it yourself01:25
dnBwoot.01:25
cafuegoNZB looks like it might be proprietary01:25
earldude1oh.01:25
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Seveasearldude1, apache does not get installed anywhere specifically01:25
Seveasearldude1, dpkg -L apache201:25
cmathesonearldude1: and it's only the config files going in /etc/, the binaries go in /usr/sbin, libs go in /usr/lib, etc.01:25
earldude1It doesn't?01:25
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Seveasearldude1, and those tutorials clearly suck01:25
Cokeygo to www.nzbsrus.com01:25
dnBcafuego, Knzb is a KDE binary newsgroup download tool. It parses and loads nzb files, such as those from Newzbin.com (An nzb file is an xml 'index' file, for news posts).01:25
earldude1yeah I can see that01:25
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CokeyRIGHT!01:26
incipienshi all01:26
cafuegoCokey: http://docs.newzbin.com/WhatIsAnNZBFile  -> Scroll down to Linux/UNIX01:26
Cokeynow how do i open those files?01:26
earldude1seveas, what is the dpkg -L apache2 command do?01:26
incipiensich kann Pan nicht aufrufen01:26
ZugwrackAnyone tell me if I have to do anything special after I mark myself away to show as being back active? X-Chat01:26
cmathesonearldude1: lists the files in the apache2 package01:26
HymnToLifeZugwrack > /back01:26
cafuegoCokey: ... then try to install any of those clients using synaptic or apt-get first.01:26
ZugwrackHymnToLife: thank you...01:26
Seveasincipiens, apt-get install pan01:26
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incipiensja das ging fehlerfrei01:26
earldude1hmm, well I guess whaT i'M REALLY trying to figure out here, is WHERE should I set up the actual web pages for apache?01:27
Cokeyjust search in synaptic?01:27
cmathesonearldude1: /var/www01:27
incipienswenn ich dan pan oder Pan aufrufe tut sich nix01:27
cafuegodnB: Yeah, looks like a joyful warez and/or pr0n distribution format ;-)01:27
cafuego!de01:27
ubotude is probably Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de01:27
HymnToLife!de01:27
tipnmocrimsun: Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:27
tipnmoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:27
tipnmois only available from another source01:27
tipnmoE: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate01:27
earldude1Ok, and WHERE is the configuration file that I use to tell apache about my different web site?01:27
cmathesonearldude1: /etc/apache201:27
dnBcafuego, it is indeed, its the only reason i still have windows boot01:27
cafuegoKnnt euch vielleicht dort aus Deutsch weiter diskutieren?01:28
Cokeywhat do i do in apt-get?01:28
Cokeytype in the program name?01:28
Seveascafuego, #ubuntu-de01:28
Seveas:p01:28
crimsuntipnmo: you don't have the main repository enabled?01:28
cafuegoSeveas: Zwei-Eins01:28
incipiensSeveas wie soll ich pan aufrufen?01:28
Seveas /kick cafuego Drei01:28
tipnmoi dont know01:28
HymnToLifecafuego > is your CPU doing well after your latest /proc upgrae ? :p01:28
cafuegoincipiens: Please join #ubuntu-de if you insist on not using english.01:28
tipnmoi dont think i have change anything01:28
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cafuegoHymnToLife: it simply _flies_01:29
incipiensok i am sorry01:29
HymnToLifethat rocks01:29
tipnmoi dont know how to re-enable the main repo.01:29
incipiensi was just asking how to start Pan after i installed it01:29
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HymnToLifeI'm gonna upgrade mine to 2,8 THz, it will kick some hard ass :p01:29
cafuegoHymnToLife: I installed a spare athlonxp as i/o controller as well... repalces teh nforce chipset, that also made is WAY faster.01:29
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tj_Seveas  i get update-rc.d not found01:30
cafuegoHymnToLife: keep in mind you can't set it to a faster speed than INT_MAX via /proc01:30
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tj_do i need to apt-get something01:30
HymnToLifetoo bad :(01:30
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tj_this is ubuntu 5.10 server01:30
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cmathesontj_: did you do it as sudo?01:30
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MMondHe, I'm trying to put Linux on my laptop.. but this comes up after I press "enter" on boot (warty disc): Loading /install/vmlinux: Disk error 20, AX = 4280, drive 82 -- any words?01:30
tj_yeah sudo01:31
B_166-ERsomeone here told me to use Serpentine to make Audio cd based on mp3 files, but serpentine doesnt seems to add them to the list..01:31
cafuegoMMond: try a different CD.01:31
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Cokeyi install nget from synaptic, now where do i find that program?01:31
Razor-XMMond: and also, don't use Warty01:31
tj_it weird, i thought that was a base command01:31
Dido-how should i reboot or turn off my pc ?01:31
cmathesonCokey: /usr/bin?01:32
ToR911where does the java package install itself?01:32
ToR911and how do u do a file search in linux?01:32
Kyrallocate01:33
cmathesonToR911: find or locate01:33
MMondAlright, just put in the newer one, wish me luck. And I might as well ask now -- I want to have Linux fill the entire drive now . . . and I know nothing of partitioning and such things -- any specific link, or source I can consult to know things of that a bit to manage that part of the installation?01:33
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Cokeyhuh?01:33
earldude1Hey Thanks cmatheson, seveas, and everyone else for your help.  This irc channel ROCKS01:33
Dido-ToR911 or by the menu bar > places> search01:33
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ToR911where does the java package install itself?01:34
Cokeywhat is that?01:34
earldude1..and so does linux, and ubuntu specifically01:34
cmathesonToR911: well, it's in a pretty funky location, but if you want to use it then run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'01:34
tipnmoso how can i enable the main repository??01:34
cmathesontipnmo: uncomment it in /etc/apt/sources.list?01:34
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MMondOkay, I have warty on  my laptop currently . . . if I do "apt-get dist-upgrade" - can I expect everything to work out alright?01:35
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cmathesonMMond: hmm, you may want to dist-upgrade to hoary, and then to breezy01:35
earldude1how do I log in as root?  ubuntu doesn't let me.  I realize you can sudo, but why can't I root as well ?01:35
cmathesonearldude1: there isn'at a root-account01:35
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sethkearldude1,you can, actually01:35
cmathesonearldude1: i just use 'sudo -s' to get a root shell, but you can run 'sudo passwd' to make a root account01:35
Dr_Willisfaq #1 :P thats 3 times tonight.01:35
MMondcmatheson: So then I should type "apt-get dist-upgrade Hoary" exactly? :s01:35
sethkand there certainly is a root account01:36
sethkthere is just not a root password set by the default install01:36
bimberiwell there is, but it's disabled01:36
factotumsure is, well on my system heh01:36
Dr_Willis'logging in directly to the root account is disabled'01:36
sethkhowever there is a root password set during the expert install01:36
Subhumanearldude1, u can do sudo -i -H to stay as root.then type "exit" when uy are doen01:36
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bimberiearldude1: sudo -i    will give you a root shell01:36
sethkbimberi, no, it is not disabled.  It just needs to have the password set01:36
ToR911cmatheson: this will set the default java to the new java i installed?01:36
cmathesonMMond: no, you're going to have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all references to 'warty' to 'hoary' and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade01:36
cmathesonToR911: yes, you can choose the new one from a list01:36
ToR911ty01:36
factotumsudo passwd root -password- something like that01:36
sethkno, just  sudo passwd01:37
Dr_Willisfactotum,  shame... :P01:37
factotumhaha01:37
factotumsorry, just got home01:37
factotumkinda out of it atm01:37
Dr_Willisheh - my house is a total mad house - with relatives in for the holidays.01:37
factotumargh, i know how that goes01:37
sethkwere there no root account, the system wouldn't even run.  Most of the early processes are owned by root01:37
earldude1I did the sudo passwd root, but then If I try to login to the gdm it tells me I can't, I don't remember the message, something about not allowing that root access there.01:37
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Dr_Willisearldude1,  gdm also has 'root' logging in disabled.01:38
earldude1but I like all of the other solutions01:38
tipnmook well i know this is a horribly dumb question.. but i dont have a clue how to login in root01:38
Dr_Willisearldude1,  thats a gdm security feature.,01:38
Cokeyyea i can find it in /usr/bin but its 47KB01:38
Cokeyi figure thats too small01:38
cmathesonearldude1: gdm doesn't allow you to by default... you'll have to edit your /etc/gdm.conf or something like that... but it's not recommended to log into X as root01:38
sethkearldude1, you want to log into X as root?  That can be done but it's a really bad idea01:38
Cokeyand nothing happens when i click it01:38
factotumI still have about a week before that sets in, thought it was bad before, then I got married! Har! sorry... off topic, I know01:38
Cokeyhow do i install it?01:38
cmatheson*/etc/gdm/gdm.conf01:38
Cokeyi d/led it from synaptic01:38
earldude1Ok, thanks everyone.  I'll take your word for it... and use the other solutions for temporarily SUDO'ing in a terminal window01:39
earldude1wow, quick answers!!!01:39
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MMondI've a ridiculously stupid question.. how do I shut down the computer in CLI? "shutdown now" doesn't entirely work01:39
sikohalt -p01:39
factotumsudo shutdown -h now ?01:39
sethkearldude1, you can do either type of root access in a terminal window01:39
Snake785sudo init 0 could work as well01:40
curtis-maci have a question about the install, this is y first go and im haveing a problem after i am asked to remove the disk and reboot, i am getting stuck at the pre-boot execution enviornment and get the disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter error01:40
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MMondAnd all of these things should be "safe" to do?01:40
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markyHi all01:40
earldude1cool01:40
mrkojeMMond,  not sure with ubuntu but fedora you could    telinit 001:40
Snake785they all shutdown the pc properly01:40
factotumMMond: yeah you'll be okay01:40
sethkMMond, you can do   shutdown -h now01:40
tipnmoanybody? how to login as root?01:40
nipplesrulzno need01:40
nipplesrulzjust use sudo01:40
mrkojetipnmo,  you don't.... you use sudo01:41
nipplesrulzif you MUST use root then " sudo passwd root "01:41
sethktipnmo, yes, I know how, but why do you want to?01:41
nipplesrulzbut you can do almost anything with sudo01:41
sethknipplesrulz, just plain sudo passwd01:41
nipplesrulzthat way you stay out of the habbit of using root01:41
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nipplesrulzsethk right.. im in the habbit of always defining the username lol01:41
tipnmoto edit sources.list01:41
sethktipnmo, using visudo, you can configure to allow your user to do anything specific that root can do01:41
sethktipnmo, so the risk of the more general su is thought to be a bad idea01:42
markyanyone know change file assosiations? so movies don't open up in totem?01:42
Cokeyit says that i d/led nget from synaptic? now where do i find it?01:42
nipplesrulzyou didnt have it just install it Cokey?01:42
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Cokeyi got it from synaptic01:42
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nipplesrulzyeah then its installed already01:43
Cokeyi found it in /usr/bin01:43
Cokeybut its 47KB01:43
nipplesrulzeh01:43
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Cokeyisnt that too small?01:43
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cpareHello all01:43
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Yurihello!01:43
nipplesrulzthats only the executable bit most likely i think01:43
Cokeywhere do i find it?01:43
fushiCan anyone help with apache? (seems #apache is a bit dead)01:43
Snake785I have a question about running KDE apps in Ubuntu.  I keep getting this error with DCOP.  I've done a lot of searching on ubutuforums.org and via google but I still can't get any kde app from running.  The details for this message is "Could not read network connection list.  Please check that the 'dcopserver' program is running"  Does anyone have any suggestions to solving this? Thanks01:43
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sethkmarky, look at preferred applications on the system menu01:43
nipplesrulzsup cpare01:43
nipplesrulzwhat exactly do you need with it Cokey?01:43
Cokeyto d/l nzb files01:43
markysnake785 are you using bluetooth?01:44
Dido-When ubuntu starts I get this massage: your $/home.dtmc (or something like that) has illegal permission this prevents you from saving the session bla bl.... how could i fix that01:44
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Razor-Xnipplesrulz: would you please change your nickname? this is a family channel01:44
YuriAny brazillian ubuntu users here? :P01:44
chrisx1How do i kill a process01:44
MMondTwo more trivial questions: What exactly does Ctrl+S and Ctrl+D do?01:44
Dido-i've never edited something like this01:44
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Snake785I dont have any bluetooth devices01:44
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markythanks sethk01:44
sethkSnake785, starting dcopserver sounds like a reasonable thing to try.01:44
Cokeywhere do i find it?01:44
markyctrl d add bookmark01:44
fushictrl+s saves I guess :o01:44
Razor-XYuri: if you need to speak another language, there are a multitude of non-English Ubuntu support channels01:44
dwhsixsethk: that only does web browser, mail reader, terminal...01:44
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chrisx1How do i kill a process01:45
MMondI know Ctrl+D logs out, but what else does it do? I'm reading a guide, this is what it does but I don't really understand: "Send [End-of-File]  to the current process."01:45
sethkdwhsix, yes, but your web browser is also your file browser01:45
cmathesonchristel: kill <pid> or killall <process_name>01:45
Razor-XMMond: depends on the app01:45
bimberiCokey: looks like nget is a command-line program (type nget in a terminal).  klibido might be a better choice01:45
Yuritks Razor, but write in english isn't a problem to me (i guess :P)01:45
cmathesonMMond: yes, so if you're using something that wants to read in til it hits EOF (like mail), you could hit ^D to simulate the EOF01:45
cparesomeone got a moment for an easy one...01:46
MMondRazor-X: Yes.. just a term window01:46
markysethk that preffered applications on the system menu only changes 3 things01:46
Snake785sethk: The output from running dcopserver is /usr/bin/iceauth: /tmp/dcopPfMg8b:1 bad "add" command line; /usr/bin/iceauth: /tmp/dcopPfMg8b:2 bad "add" command line; DCOPServer self-test failed. Any ideas?01:46
Razor-XMMond: I believe basic BASH options follow along with emacs binds01:46
MMondOr well, I'm actually on complete CLI right now, and I wish to know how things work so I make the most of it01:46
Cokeyok....01:46
markycan't change the01:46
cmathesonRazor-X: you can configure it to be like vi01:46
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markyso mpegs are in vlc etv01:46
Razor-Xcmatheson: yeah, that you can01:46
markyetc*01:46
sethkSnake785, I would probably log into KDE.  That will get all the KDE stuff up and running and configured.  After that, if you log out and log back into gnome, you should be able to start dcopserver from the command line01:46
Razor-XMMond: C-d will delete the character underneath the point01:46
dwhsixsethk: so I guess one just needs to change the file associations in firefox or whatever web browser?01:46
bimberiubotu tell marky about defaultapp01:47
Snake785I've tried that, but KDE won't start, I'll get that DCOP error and I'll get brought back to the login screen01:47
Cokeywhere do i find klibido....?01:47
bimberihm, looks like ubotu is down01:47
marky:(01:47
sethkdwhsix, typically, yes.  KDE has a separate config dialog for it, but what it controls is konqueror01:47
crimsunubotu: !test01:47
Razor-XMMond: C-b will move the point backwards one character, C-f will move the point forward one character, M-p brings up the last command in the terminal01:47
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tj_Hey guys i figured out the update-rc.d command01:47
dwhsixhmm01:47
tj_it goes like this sudo update-rc.d noip2.sh defaults 9001:47
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Razor-XMMond: if you want research into this stuff, I suggest you first decide whether you prefer vi or emacs style controls01:48
sethkRazor-X, try zsh.  It has millions of config options that you can spend a few months playing with if you are so inclined.01:48
czer323I'm trying to figure out some of the programs in the system> preferences menu.  Where are they listed?01:48
sethkRazor-X, I  much prefer zsh (to bash) for CLI01:48
Razor-Xsethk: I use zsh, actually, and I love it :)01:48
sethkRazor-X, yes, the completion is amazing.01:48
Kyralzsh hmm?01:48
Razor-Xincredible01:48
bimberimarky: do you mean file associations in nautilus?  if so, right-click on a file, select properties, then the Open With tab and change the setting01:48
crimsunhas zsh fixed/added full UTF-8 support?01:48
KyralTell more!01:48
cmathesonwhat exactly does zsh do that bash doesn't?01:48
Razor-Xand I've totally stopped using ``cd'' :)01:48
markyah....01:48
markylemme try iy01:48
Razor-X(AUTO-CD kicks arse :)01:48
KyralAuto-CD?01:48
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sethkcmatheson, bunches of small things which, aggregated, reduce the amount of typing by a huge amount01:49
KyralTELL ME MORE NOW!!01:49
dwhsixbimberi: that's it01:49
Razor-Xcmatheson: BASH's completion sucks, really, and it's not nearly as scriptable or configurable as ZSH01:49
Cokeyok i found klibido, but its .tar.gz how do i open this?01:49
Cokeyor install it?01:49
Cokeyany help?01:49
sethkKyral, autocd means that if you type a directory name, the shell (after realizing that it isn't a command or alias) assumes it is a directory name, and CDs to it01:49
cmathesonRazor-X: sethk: interesting, i'll have to check that out01:49
Yurii want to tell about performance on ubuntu01:49
Dr_WillisI tend to use that "Bash Completion" package.01:49
Razor-XKyral: auto-cd, if you enter the name of a folder, it'll go there by default, unless it conflicts with the name of a program in your path (although it's not enabled by default)01:49
Kyralsethk: jaw drop01:49
hyphenatedcmatheson: the thing that zsh does that bash doesn't is spawn zealots ;-)01:49
sethkcmatheson, some of the best features aren't on by default.  The best way to learn it is to turn on one at a time01:49
bimberiCokey: did you install it using Synaptic?01:49
markybimberi thats exactly it.......... thanks for bei ng so helpfull01:49
sethkKyral, there is also auto-pushd, which turns every CD into a pushd01:50
tj_Yuri, having performance issues?01:50
bimberimarky: np :)01:50
Kyralwtf is a pushd?01:50
sethkKyral, pushd and popd are directory stack commands.01:50
Cokeyno it doesnt find it01:50
Razor-Xcmatheson: plus, a lot of cool features from KSH and dare I say it, the *few* useful features from csh shell variants have been added here (like !!)01:50
Cokeydoes it for you?01:50
Yurii have 1Gb of memory but i'm feeling some overhead on my system01:50
shinuim getting this error while compiling k3b from source and installing using checkinstall:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la', which is also in package k3blibs01:50
shinuany idea how to come over it?01:50
sethkKyral, I frequently do this:    pushd;  whatever weird stuff I want to do;  popd01:50
Cokeyi d/led the .tar.gz from sourceforge01:50
cmathesongee that zsh sounds great01:50
sethkKyral, and I end up in the same directory that I started in01:50
Razor-Xshinu: prepend a ``sudo''01:50
Kyralsethk: I have no clue what it means01:50
Cokeyi got that now, now i dont know how to install it01:50
sethkcmatheson, zsh is really worth learning01:50
MMondRazor-X: Ahh - (missed your message, just got it) and thanks01:50
sethkKyral, the zsh docs are quite good01:50
crimsunI used zsh exclusively for many years01:51
Kyralsethk: which package01:51
czer323what's the main difference between sudo and gksudo?01:51
sethkKyral, bash also has pushd/popd, by the way01:51
tj_Yuri, i have had some issues with Video card drivers slowing me down01:51
Razor-XMMond: although, the first step for all of this, I think, is to pick your favorite terminal emulator01:51
shinuRazor-X: sudo checkinstall make install? i did that.01:51
Kyralzsh, zsh-beta, or zsh30?01:51
sethkKyral, in synaptic, there is a category of "shells"01:51
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sethkKyral, zsh01:51
crimsunsadly the utf-8 default migration killed me01:51
bimberishinu: uninstall k3blibs01:51
Kyralsethk: I use apt-get01:51
Razor-Xcrimsun: can you hop by offtopic and help me decide on a keyboard to get?01:51
Kyralyou idiot ;P01:51
Razor-Xshinu: ``sudo checkinstall'' simply01:51
KyralNO!01:51
sethkKyral, I always let everybody else find the bugs in betas for me.  :)01:51
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Yuritj_, i don't have video card... my video is onboard...01:51
shinubimberi: ok ill give that a try01:51
crimsunRazor-X: I use a standard keyboard with a dvorak keymap01:51
KyralCheckInstall evil01:51
crimsunRazor-X: but sure01:51
shinuRazor-X: ill try what bimberi said maybe01:52
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sethkKyral, I'd have to look up the package name, but I would bet that it starts with zsh  :)01:52
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Kyralsethk: I just did Apt-Cache search zsh ;P01:52
Razor-Xcrimsun: I also use Dvorak, awesome, but I have the money, and it's Christmas, and it may just be an IBM Model M :)01:52
Yuribut i'm felling my system slowing down with ubuntu...01:52
bimberiCokey: it's much better to install using synaptic01:52
tj_Have you done all ubuntu updates?01:52
MMondRazor-X: I screwed up my X sometime ago . . . and fixing this seems hopeless now, I've been at it for days, months really . . . couldn't get it. As absrud as this sounds now -- I think I'll make my way with this. Perhaps find a few IM clients that work on CLI, I already use w3m, and other similar things . . . don't know, I think I'll wrestle with the idea.01:52
sethkKyral, I think you can get the package name out of synaptic.  hold on.01:52
Kyralsethk: I'm NOT using Synaptic01:52
Razor-XYuri: odd, my system flies on Ubuntu with 256 MB RAM01:52
Yurigod...01:52
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Razor-XMMond: you sound like me, only, X never worked on my first Debian install01:52
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Yuriso, whats wrong01:52
sethkKyral, that's why I was going to get the package name for you01:52
tristanmikequick question...how do I pause the scrolling text at boot in Hoary?01:53
Razor-XMMond: lemme tell you, it's the *only* way to learn the CLI thoroughly01:53
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Razor-X:)01:53
Yurii was installed system with default option01:53
sethkKyral, if you were using synaptic, you wouldn't need the package name.01:53
KyralMMond: naim01:53
cmathesonMMond: centericq is a pretty decent cli im client01:53
Yurino boot parameters01:53
Cokeyhow do i do that?01:53
ToR911ok this is probably an extra newbie question, but why sometimes commands (IE: Main) pressing "Main" do not work, and "./Main" does  (when Main is in my Dir)01:53
MMondHehe, then I'll have fun. Kyral: Hrm?01:53
Cokeyi cant find it!01:53
cmathesontristanmike: you ccan't... but you could try 'dmesg | less' after you log in01:53
bimberitristanmike: try CTRL-S (CTRL-Q to resume) - a guess tho01:53
MMondcmatheson: Only ICQ, then?01:53
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KyralMMond: When I am forced out of X (Gotta love Dapper :D) then I use Naim for AIM01:53
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Razor-XMMond: in order to make your life easier: try out twin to get a desktop manager without X, check out centericq for a behemoth (a huge app)01:53
kakeidoes any one uses ubuntu and have try to use w32codecs or exist w64codecs?01:54
cmathesonMMond: no... it does at least icq/aol/m$n/yahoo and i thinhk jabber too01:54
tristanmikecool, I'll try both, thanx01:54
MMondKyral: On, Naim is a CLI for AIM? Cool, I'll try it . . . within the hour01:54
tj_Any ideas for Yuri guys, performance for me has been great with 512 ram and 1.8 gig pentium01:54
Razor-XMMond: if ALSA works alright for you, I suggest using cplay for music (it's a frontend for other CLI apps)01:54
coagcmatheson: yes jabber and IRC01:54
Yurion windows (urgh...) i don't feel my system slowing down...01:54
MMondcmatheson: Oh wow, that's.. a lot, surely fills my need. Thank you for the suggestion :D01:54
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cmathesoncoag: good call01:54
ToR911why sometimes commands (IE: Main) pressing "Main" do not work, and "./Main" does  (when Main is in my Dir)01:54
Kyralsethk: did you get the packagename?01:54
tj_yuri, amd or intel01:54
bimberiCokey: where can't you find it? in synaptic01:55
YuriAMD01:55
cpareCan someone explain what the sounds are I keep hearing on my Ubuntu machine - is it the wireless card?01:55
bimberi?01:55
Razor-XMMond: for video, MPlayer of course, you may also want to try out svgalib for image viewing01:55
Yuriduron applebred 1800Mhz01:55
sklavToR911, ./ says to execute it  directly01:55
tj_amd for me is even faster01:55
KyralRazor-X: I prefer VLC lol01:55
sethkKyral, I'm seeing zsh-doc and zsh so far.  But you said you didn't find either.01:55
ClayGMMond: centericq is better01:55
cpareout of nowhere "Briiip"01:55
markrianI'm having some trouble with wine. If I run winecfg and then click the audio tab, it crashes out and gives the error shown on this page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/568201:55
Razor-XMMond: and if you really want the poor-man's image, use an ASCII converter :)01:55
Kyralsethk: I found Zsh and others lol01:55
Razor-XKyral: he doesen't have X01:55
sklavbut if you copied the program to /bin which is in your path it would work without the ./01:55
sethkKyral, ok, good.01:55
cparein the other room getting a drink "Briip"01:55
bulio|lapgot a problem01:55
MMondRazor-X: My sound never worked, actually. Well really, when I first put the Linux disc in for the first time to give it a shot . . . I wasn't expecting much compatibility, since this laptop is an old and obscure one. (Although has served my 6 years of heavenly use)01:55
Cokeyi search for it01:55
bulio|lapI have 2 CD rom drives01:55
Cokeynothing comes up01:55
KyralI'm just asking the difference01:55
cpare:)01:55
sethkKyral, you need at least zsh and zsh-doc.  well, you don't need zsh-doc, but you want it.01:55
Cokeyis that not right?01:56
ClayGanyone know a way to take off "auto preview"  for when you mouse over a mp3 and it plays?01:56
ClayGit's killing me01:56
Yuriin another distros, like kurumin (a fork of knoppix), my system runs very fast01:56
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MMondBut on that, I was just wondering last thing if that was possible -- having sound work while on complete CLI -- very glad that you just told me of this01:56
sklavexample /bin/sh is not local in that directory01:56
Razor-XMMond: maybe you want to do research on that -- use links2, links, or lynx for web-surfing01:56
tj_yuri have you done all updates01:56
Yuriyes01:56
tj_there is a kernel update01:56
bimberiCokey: do you have the universe repository enabled?01:56
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Yurithey finished now01:56
ClayGnm found it01:56
Razor-XMMond: (or firefox with SVGAlib) and you should get comfy with a text editor, quickly01:56
sklavbut your script needs /bin/sh to execute the commands01:56
Razor-XMMond: a robust one, preferable, if you have no X01:56
tj_kde or gnome?01:56
sklav./says relative to /01:56
MMondnight* lynx for web browsing, yes, used that -- although I prefer w3m, perhaps it may be because that's the only thing I've used so far thoroughly01:56
Razor-XMMond: and also get very comfy with screen01:56
ClayGI love screen01:56
Razor-XMMond: *whap* and w3m, of course :)01:57
B_166-ERi have this error when i try to install a package -that should- normally install... (its in french, but ubuntu-fr cannot help me) 'dpkg: Les fichiers de dtournements a une ligne trop longue ou EOF (ii)       '01:57
sklavor something like that its been a while since it was explained to me01:57
ToR911sklav: but the file is in MY directory, why won't executing its name work?01:57
Razor-XMMond: but, actually, if you use twin, you won't need screen :)01:57
bulio|lapis there a command to make Ubuntu ignore my CD burner during install?01:57
Kyralsethk: I can still run my bash scripts by specifying #!/bin/bash, right?01:57
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cmathesonbulio|lap: why would you want t o?01:57
sklavToR911, because unless you have a bin/bash or bin sh path within your directory it wont01:57
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sethkKyral, yes, of course.  assuming there is a program /bin/bash  :)01:57
sklavas i mentionned ./ means relative to /01:57
sklavexample cd /01:57
sklavcd bin/sh01:57
Razor-XClayG: it's used for a bit different purpose, but if you like the way it works, it's incredible, and without X, it's a godsend :)01:57
sklavoops01:58
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sklavcd /bin01:58
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cmathesonClayG: you could also try 'apt-cache show twin'... it appears to be a windowing system for console apps01:58
sklavexecute sh01:58
sklavand so on01:58
sklavin your home01:58
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bulio|lapis there a command to make Ubuntu ignore my CD burner during install?01:58
sklavthere is no cd bin01:58
Cokeyyea...01:58
Cokeyjust did it01:58
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Yurianyone knows a channel specialized on ubuntu performance?01:58
ClayGshow? nice  - adds to collection01:58
Cokeystill doesnt find it01:58
sethkbulio|lap, you've been answered already more than once01:58
Dr_WillisClayG,  'twin' is VERY interesting. but in some ways very annoying. :P01:58
Razor-XYuri: scour the wiki, you'll find something there for sure01:58
ClayGhmm01:58
Yuritks razor01:58
sklavbrb01:58
Yurii'll take a look01:58
Kyralwtf01:58
sklavim hungry01:58
KyralI cannot backspace in ZSH01:59
bulio|lapno cd bin?01:59
Razor-XKyral: you're going to have to configure lots of stuff, at first01:59
bulio|lapI type that at install boot?01:59
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Kyralwell its good that Bash is still default01:59
bimberiCokey: did you update repositories after the change (Reload button in synaptic)?01:59
Cokeyyea its enabled01:59
Razor-XKyral: so, backspace is ^H on your box, I imagine?01:59
Cokeystill doesnt find it01:59
ClayGKyral: get ready for fun with lynx and mplayer01:59
MMond <Razor-X> MMond: for video, MPlayer of course, you may also want to try out svgalib for image viewing <- Eh? And I am forcing myself to use vim instead of nano or other text editors . . . right now I'm seeing less use of it, but many programmars told me otherwise, so I just am01:59
KyralRazor-X: I dunno01:59
Vespoli;)(01:59
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CokeyYEA02:00
Razor-XMMond: I suggest you investigate the emacs/vim fork in the road now02:00
CokeyNOTHING!02:00
ClayGMMond why is vim better than nano?02:00
CokeyTHIS IS ANNOYING!02:00
cmathesonMMond: you will bless the day you switched to vim forever02:00
Razor-XMMond: it depends on your own style, really02:00
CokeyWTF!02:00
cparesounds like "Yeow"02:00
Vespoli=P02:00
Razor-XMMond: but I can't find anything of compare to the two02:00
MMondOf your comment, I quickly thought you meant a video player for GUI . . . after some lines, I saw  you saying something like "He has CLI" -- I can view images on CLI?02:00
JonasNormanis vi like vim?02:00
Razor-XMMond: also, you want to try out mc if you want to manage files02:00
JonasNormani got a book from the library for vi today02:00
Dido-reboot is for restarting, what's for turning off ?02:00
Razor-XJonasNorman: it's like vim, only horrible-er02:00
VespoliCokey, STOP TYPING IN CAPS02:00
cmathesonJonasNorman: vim is vi improved02:00
bulio|lapI just want to disable the CD burner02:00
sklavshutdown02:00
Vespoli=)02:00
JonasNormanoh darn02:00
funkyHatJonasNorman, vim is based on vi02:01
bulio|lapnot my main CD02:01
Vespoliok, doesn't matter. nano suits basic needs in my opinion.02:01
sklav Dido- try shutdown -h now02:01
JonasNormanRazor-x: horrible-er lol02:01
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Vespolijinx02:01
Cokeyooooooooooooook02:01
Vespoli:io02:01
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Vespoli* :O02:01
Cokeywhy doesnt this work/02:01
Razor-XJonasNorman: a history lesson in a nutshell: there were, at one time, two popular UNIX editors, a small, fast one called ed, and an infinitely customizable one called TECO02:01
Vespoliubotu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!102:01
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Cokeywhen i do the repositories to universal it doesnt stay that way02:02
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bimberiCokey: ok, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:02
KyralMeh where are the configfiles for zsh?02:02
Dido-sklav right, thanks, let me try ;)02:02
Razor-XJonasNorman: TECO was originally closed source, a programmable set of macros and commands was originall created for it called TECO emacs, and was a very powerful subset of TECO, somewhere along the line, emacs split off from TECO and formed its own. It later had other forks like the emacs and XEmacs fork02:02
Dido-sklav doesnt work02:02
Cokeypermission denied?02:03
FlashmattLinux Wireless Experts: Even though my WEP encryption is ON, Linux does not recognize that my BEFw11s4 has WEP on, does anyone know what settings I should change on the router to fix this???02:03
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Razor-XJonasNorman: ed eventually upgraded into ex, which then upgraded to vi. vi forked into nvi, which was popular for a long time, until a more ``purist'' fork was devised called ``vim'', the current, popular, ed distillation02:03
Vespoli!help02:03
Vespoli:-/02:03
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yuri_fglrx question: I am installing using the ati-installer and on the wiki It says I should choose "specific Distribution" and select Ubuntu. The driver I got is slightly newer than the one on the wiki, and "ubuntu" is not one of the options. There are a bunch of debian option however02:03
cmathesonFlashmatt: you should be able to turn WEP on w/ iwconfig02:03
sorush20guys is there a calculator program that allows you to write like you would with a pen so that you would not use * ^ ?02:04
Flashmattcmatheson: I did, but when I do a "iwlist scan" I can see other routers with their setting "Encryption: on", but mine continues to say "off"02:04
Dr_Willissorush20,  thats how i write with a pen. :P02:04
sethkYuri, try the closest, hopefully for the same kernel version02:04
cmathesonFlashmatt: weird02:04
sorush20really02:04
Cokeyok bimberi02:04
Cokeyi did it02:04
Cokeypasted it02:04
cmathesonsorush20: yeah what exactly did you have in mind?02:05
B_166-ERwhen i try to install a package i have this error : diversions file has too-long line or EOF02:05
JonasNormanRazor-X: Is emacs for the terminal02:05
Flashmattcmatheson: tell me about it, I've been working on this for days; when I turn WEP off, it still says encryption off, but I can connect now, but I don't want to leave WEP off, you know?02:05
cmathesonJonasNorman: it can be yeah02:05
cmathesonFlashmatt: yeah... i always keep mine open so i'm not too clear on WEP issues02:06
sorush20so that the expressions would be written like you would right on paper , X instead of * then root sign instead of root02:06
sorush20etc02:06
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Rage__Why does xv not work on ny system: Radeon 9600 with fglrx (xorg-driver-fglrx) it doesnt work in the multimedia selector or with mplayer?02:06
Razor-XJonasNorman: yep, it is02:06
JonasNormanRazor-X:  an that was a descendent of TECO, the more customizeable approach., while vim is from ed the small and fast.02:06
yuri_sethk: the options under debian are : deb/sarge, deb/3.0 , deb/testing, deb/unstable , deb/stable, and about 5 others02:06
Razor-XJonasNorman: install ``emacs-nox''02:06
Razor-XJonasNorman: exactly02:06
cmathesonsorush20: well i don't think there is a square root sign on the keyboard... i haven't heard of such a program though, sorry02:06
bimberiCokey: aha, no klibido in hoary :( - apologies for leading you up _that_ garden path02:07
Razor-Xand that still remains the big debate, which side of the alley you want02:07
JonasNormanRazor-X: at this point, which would you consider more customizeable and efficient for someone willing to take the high learning curver02:07
Cokeyok....02:07
Razor-Xplus, the movement keys are pretty different, but they both support arrow-key movement02:07
Cokeynow what do i do?02:07
Rage__fglrx works on my debian system on my laptop with xv...?02:07
cmathesonRazor-X: they're both pretty close now... emacs is probably still probably a little bit more customizeable w/ elisp though (but really vim is narrowing the gap everyday)02:07
Flashmattcmatheson: thanks anyways02:07
Razor-XJonasNorman: I would say emacs, it's much more customizable, and eventually, you'll be able to do anything in it (terminals, go on IRC (like I am now), IM with people, play nethack, etc.)02:07
bimberiCokey: back to nget i guess.  I don't know that program at all.  Others might.  Perhaps try typing nget in a terminal...02:08
siriusnovanedit > *02:08
FlashmattAnyone else know how to setup their "router" for WEP?  I'm running a BEFW11S402:08
Razor-Xcmatheson: so I've heard, especially with the new vim irc client I've heard about :)02:08
MMond<Razor-X> MMond: also, you want to try out mc if you want to manage files <- Manage files? I can't imagine what else I could potentially do, other than what the basic commands already do (i.e., ls, cd, etc.)02:08
siriusnovaNedit > vim & emacs02:08
siriusnova:)02:08
Cokeyi did member, and it didnt do anything02:08
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sethkcmatheson, vim macros are really rather primitive.  but there are a number of things that gvim does better than emacs.  So I use both.02:08
Cokeynget.cc:1104:caught exception nget.cc:1015:ConfigExFatal: neither /home/ubuntu/.nget5/ nor /home/ubuntu/_nget5/ exist02:08
Cokey(see man nget for configuration info)02:08
CokeyERRORS: 1 fatal02:08
Razor-XMMond: you may also want to check out joe, which is another quaint editor02:08
Cokeythats what it says02:08
cmathesonRazor-X: hehe, yeah.  although i tend to just use my editor for editing mostly (i use screen if i want to have lots of stuff in the same console)02:08
JonasNormanRazor-X: thanks. thanks for the history too02:08
B_166-ERis there a way to do a fsck  , on ubuntu, but whitout having it mounted ?02:09
sethkMMond, there are literally dozens of editors you can play with02:09
Razor-XMMond: there's lots you can't do without cp, cd, mv, and rm, trust me :)02:09
bimberiCokey: mkdir ~/.nget502:09
bimberiCokey: then retry02:09
Cokeytype that in?02:09
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bimberiCokey: yep02:09
Razor-XJonasNorman: no problem, it was for a project (self-project, that is) where I compiled all the popular command-line text editors02:09
yuri_can someone tell me what version of debian uses the same kernel as ubuntu?02:09
cmathesonsethk:yeah, there's nothing wrong w/ using both for sure.  i used to be a fairly devout emacs user but i didn't find myself using the super-rad functionality of emacs very often, and i was much more efficient w/ vim02:09
MMondWell I'm confounded . . . I don't feel very limited, I don't know what lies beyond! I'll be back in a few -- and I'll google the rest while02:09
Razor-XMMond: good luck02:10
cmathesonyuri_: none of them afaik02:10
Razor-XJonasNorman: compiled a list, of course :)02:10
sethkcmatheson, these days I do use vim much more often.  But if you want your macro to branch based on a condition, or anything similar, it's back to emacs for me.02:10
B_166-ERis there a way to do a fsck  , on ubuntu, but whitout having it mounted ?02:10
JonasNormanRazor-X: lol02:10
bulio|lapanother borked CD02:10
sethkcmatheson, regular expression search and replace is at least 10 X faster with vim than with emacs02:10
bulio|lapI'm going to 4.1002:10
bulio|lapIll apt-get02:10
cmathesonB_166-ER: you could run 'mount -o remount,ro / && fsck -f /dev/blah'02:10
Razor-Xand also, joe is a deviant from wordstar, and nano is a deviant from pico, and you have other little emacs/vi clones that have slipped the cracks, like elVis (for Windows, I believe) and jemacs, joe equipped with emacs keybinds02:10
yuri_cmatheson: im trying to install ati drivers and the wiki said to choose "ubuntu." in this driver ubuntu is not an option... its slightly newer02:10
SuperSoxhave I just walked in on an editor war? :)02:11
Cokeyyea that works02:11
cmathesonsethk: oh man i sure like that regexp search02:11
Cokeybut thats f#cked!02:11
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Cokeyi have no idea how to use that?02:11
Razor-XSuperSox: nope, I was just explaining the different editors, their advantages, and disadvantages :)02:11
B_166-ERhm02:11
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cmathesonyuri_: hmm, not sure... i don't have an ati card... but i would say the chances aren't good unless you can compile it yourself02:11
cafuegoSeveas: Still awake?02:11
Cokeyand how come wine doesnt work with powerpc?02:11
sethkcmatheson, emacs has it, but it is very very slow.  I haven't bothered to figure out why.02:11
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bimberiCokey: yeah, i guessed so, that's why i suggested klibido :P02:11
Razor-XCokey: it probably relies on x86-specific code02:11
SuperSoxRazor-X: hehe :)02:11
cmathesonsethk: that's wild.  i didn't know my regular expressions back in my emacs days02:11
Razor-Xemacs regexps are truly horrible :)02:12
yuri_cmatheson: damn. ive been trying to set up my card for months02:12
Cokeyshitty02:12
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Razor-XI use sed for my regexps, plain and simple02:12
Razor-Xbut, emacs macros make up for that02:12
cmathesonyuri_: why not just use the ubuntu-packges?02:12
Cokeythere are no progs that use GUI for .nzb d.ling?02:12
yuri_cmatheson: they dont work02:12
bimberiCokey: a breezy upgrade will mean that klibido can be installed - it's GUI02:12
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cmathesonyuri_: hmm, that is trouble02:12
Cokeyhuh?02:13
Cokeywhat does that mean?02:13
bimberiCokey: hoary and breezy are releases of ubuntu (April '05 and October '05 respectively)02:13
Cokeyi see02:13
Cokeyim using a live c02:13
Cokeyd02:13
Cokeyso how does that work02:13
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Cokeymake a new cd?02:14
cpareCan someone explain the sounds my Ubuntu is making?02:14
Kyralwhat are they02:14
Razor-XCokey: you want an install CD02:14
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Cokeybut i run mac tiger02:14
Razor-XCokey: it'll work on PPC also02:14
Cokeyi dont really know how to make a partition for mac.....and im kinda scared02:14
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Cokeywhat will?02:14
Razor-XCokey: ah, yeah, I was the first time too02:14
cafuegoCokey: The installer can resize your HFS+ partition.02:14
Cokeyto what i want it to?02:15
Razor-XCokey: of course, I gained my courage formatting an older machine about 9 times :)02:15
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Razor-XCokey: the installer should partition everything up for you02:15
Cokeyusing diskutility?02:15
Cokeyo02:15
cafuegoCokey: That said, you should still back up all your data before starting.02:15
Razor-XCokey: it only gets finicky with NTFS, which is a Windows FS02:15
yuri_does anyone have this instal file "ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run" from the ati website? there is a new version on the site and i need this one02:15
Cokeybut when you partition, it also formats the disk doesnt it02:15
Razor-Xyeah, listen to cafuego :)02:15
cafuegoCokey: no, disk utility can't do that without destroying stuff.02:15
cafuegoCokey: The 'parted' utility on the Linux install CD can do it.02:15
Razor-XCokey: no, most utilities don't format when repartitioning, they can resize partitions02:15
Cokeywhich means it earases everything02:16
Cokeyno?02:16
Cokeyi thought it did02:16
sorush20guys qcalc does a  good job it type the root sign etc.02:16
cafuegoCokey: disk utility? yes.02:16
Cokeyyea02:16
Cokeyyou can make a partition that way?02:16
Razor-XCokey: nope, it takes the free space, and allocates it to another parition, but listen to cafuego when he says that disk utility formats everything02:16
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cafuegoCokey: yes, but not whilst keeping your data, it will wipe EVERYTHING.02:16
Cokeyi see02:16
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Razor-XCokey: you're going to want to use a utility from either the Live CD, or simply use the included partitioner on the installer, do NOT use disk utility02:17
Cokeywell i can back up everything to my external correct02:17
Razor-XCokey: of course02:17
cafuegoCokey: There is a payware tool (iPartition) that will resize and save data...02:17
Cokeyhow many cd's is ubuntu?02:17
Kyral102:17
Razor-XCokey: 1 :)02:17
Cokeyand does it come with its own boot strap?02:17
Cokeyreally?02:17
cafuegoCokey: if you're happy to backup and reinstall OSX plus all your apps, you can use disk util, yes.02:17
Cokeyinstall also?02:17
Razor-XCokey: yeah, it does02:17
Razor-XCokey: yeah02:17
Cokeynasty02:17
KyralCokey: well, no02:17
cafuegoCokey: ubuntu comes on  one CD, but...02:17
cafuego!dstats breezy02:17
cpareCokey: Just one02:17
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KyralCokey: Live and Install are two CDs02:18
KyralBut we are working on it for Dapper02:18
Razor-XKyral: hmmm... really?02:18
siriusnovathere needs to be an Ubuntu DVD02:18
cafuegod'oh!02:18
siriusnovawith everything possible on it02:18
KyralRazor-X: Really02:18
Cokeyso when i first start up my mac a box will come up to boot into linux or osx tiger?02:18
Razor-XI'm going to have to disagree on that point then02:18
Kyralsiriusnova: not everyone has a DVD Burner02:18
Razor-XI think that a dedicated Ubuntu CD is best02:18
siriusnovatrue Kyral02:18
cafuegoCokey: ... there is a LOT more stuff available online, you cna get up to a few tens of GB if you really want *everything*02:18
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Razor-Xsiriusnova: plus, a theory of mine is that, we've exceeded that ``golden ratio''02:18
Cokeywhat do you mean "everything"?02:19
KyralRazor-X: huh?02:19
KyralCokey: Debian is on 30 CDs02:19
Cokeyi just want to make a 4GB partition and run both on my mac02:19
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KyralTHink about it ;P02:19
Razor-Xsiriusnova: the point at which the time it takes to distribute meaningful software programs over average bandwidth becomes short02:19
cafuegoCokey: Yes, it will give you a bootloader that allows you to choose between 'x' and 'l'. if you choose 'l', it will allow you to pick a Linux kernel, then boots.02:19
Cokeynice, and x is tiger?02:19
Razor-Xsiriusnova: with the advent of DVDs, we've again lost our Golden Ratio, it'll have to wait again for the bandwidth catches up02:19
cafuegoindeed02:19
Razor-XCokey: X is your GUI system02:19
cafuegoCokey: and 'c' is boot from cd.02:19
Kyrallol02:19
sproingie30 cd's ... for those people who just don't like that whole "internet" thing02:19
Cokeyword02:19
cafuegoRazor-X: shut up02:20
KyralCD-Rs are becoming like Floppies of old :D02:20
Razor-Xcafuego: .... ok02:20
Cokeyso i should d/l the install disk then?02:20
Cokeyand run the disk and it'll partition for me02:20
cpareUbuntu Sounds - Can anyone answer a question?02:20
Kyralcpare: what sounds lol02:20
cafuegoCokey: No, you should install Tiger first.02:20
Razor-XKyral: yeah, but it takes two days on average bandwidth to downlad a DVD02:20
Flashmatthas anyone here gotten their WEP working?02:20
Flashmattand is there an alternative?02:20
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KyralRazor-X: Thats why I said its on CD02:20
HymnToLifeanyone knows where gaim' smileys image files are stored ?02:20
Cokeyi already have it installed02:20
siriusnovawep works fine for me Flashmatt02:20
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KyralRazor-X: the combined disc will be a CD02:20
Razor-XKyral: I know, I meant that for siriusnova02:20
cafuegoCokey: Well, fetch and burn the Ubuntu install CD, then boot the Tiger DVD and install.02:20
Flashmattsiriusnova: did you do anything special to get it working?02:21
cpareKryal: My Ubuntu laptop makes random noises sometimes02:21
Cokeyinstall tiger?02:21
siriusnovawhats the problem Flashmatt - are you on a laptop?02:21
MasterTsunamimine bites me sometimes :/02:21
Flashmattsiriusnova: currently, yes, but the PC is running ubuntu02:21
Cokeyagain?02:21
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Kyralcpare: so does mine lol, its like the CD Drive02:21
cafuegoCokey: yes, i understand, but you can't repartition without wiping, unless you use the Linux tools (and though they work, I can't guarantee 100% they won't mess up tiger anyway)02:21
bimbericafuego: but if Cokey already has tiger he can resize during the ubuntu install?02:21
cpareKryal: like perhaps the wireless card is on02:21
HymnToLifemine is REALY nasty02:21
HymnToLifesometimes it boots Windows02:21
cpareKryal: or perhaps someone has connected02:21
bimbericafuego: nvm :)02:21
Cokeyright02:22
cpareKryal: not a hardware sound02:22
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Cokeythats what im asking02:22
siriusnovai disabled acpi and pnpbios with acpi=off and pnpbios=off because I have a Thinkpad 600E whose ACPI is badly broken, without acpi and pnpbios off I couldnt get a dhcp lease from the dhcp server02:22
cpareKryal: :)02:22
Cokeyif i just run the install CD02:22
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cafuegoCokey: So either way, start by backup up EVERYTHING :-)02:22
visitaai blz galera02:22
Kyralcpare: without hearing the sound its hard to diagnose lol02:22
Cokeyobviously02:22
Cokeythen put in the install cd for ubuntu02:22
Cokey?02:22
cpareKryal: or perhaps the wireless card is finding a base station02:22
siriusnovai also disabled plug and play in the bios02:22
Flashmattsiriusnova: when you do an *iwlist scan* does your router show that the encryption is on or off?02:22
cafuegoCokey: Then with aprted, in the install, just resize the Tiger partition and leave a few GB of free space.02:23
cpareI checked the sounds, but none mapped are the sound I am getting02:23
Fujoorgkk02:23
visitaola02:23
cpare"Briiip"02:23
Fujoorgood evening02:23
cafuegoCokey: Then you cna tell the installer to use that free space to auto-partition for Linux02:23
Cokeyaprted?02:23
visitaalguem abras espanhol?02:23
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siriusnovaFlashmatt - it says Encryption Key: on02:23
cpareKryal: "Vriiip"02:23
cparelol02:23
Flashmattsiriusnova: mine says off even though it's on02:23
Kyralvisita: #ubuntu-es02:24
Flashmattsiriusnova: I think my router is the problematic one02:24
siriusnovaFlashmatt - then its the router02:24
siriusnovabecause iwlist scan reports what the router is putting out02:24
visitatd biem?02:24
Flashmattsiriusnova: someone recommended to change the WEP setting to "open" on the router, but to no avail :(02:24
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Flashmattany other ideas, (hopefully)!!!02:24
siriusnovaFlashmatt - what kind of router is it?02:24
Flashmatt?02:24
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Cokeyok im d/ling the install cd now02:24
Kyralvisita: Yo no hablo espanol bien :P02:24
FlashmattBEFW11S402:24
pluffsyhello02:24
FujoorI have a lil question, really whats the difference between all the available terminals? aterm, eterm, xterm etc ...? is it just the looks?02:24
Flashmattlinksys02:24
Milk_good afternoon02:25
Cokeyis there anywhere faster i can get it from then the website?02:25
Milk_eer evening02:25
KyralFujoor: some options02:25
Fujoorkyral: for example?02:25
KyralFujoor: Like most of everything in Linux, a matter of option02:25
shinuanyone any idea if xorg is getting updated to 6.9 anytime soon?02:25
Milk_does anyone have a recomendation other than chkrootkit or panda antivirus to check for nasties on my ubuntu box?  Its behaving strangly02:25
visitasoi de Brasil02:25
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Fujoorkyral: can all of them for example run in transparent mode?02:25
pluffsyare there any terminal application one can use that lets you input a date and outputs a timestamp? I keep writing simple php-scripts to get timestamps, and it isn't very effective.02:25
KyralFujoor: "True" transparency cannnot be done without Compositing02:26
Fujoorno, but the fake one then?02:26
KyralFujoor: Yes, all support them02:26
tritium!pt02:26
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Fujooroh, neat, so its really a matter of which one you prefer, neither of them is worse or better?02:26
KyralFujoor: Its like the different WMs, all do basically the same thing but different02:26
KyralFujoor: Bingo!02:26
Cokeyis there anywhere i can get an install guide and print out before i try this?02:26
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KyralCokey: Actually thats my job for Dapper....lol02:27
Milk_ok.. more specific... neither the update or firestarter tray icons are working02:27
siriusnovaFlashmatt - i bet its the router02:27
visitavc es h ou m?02:27
siriusnovaread the manual02:27
siriusnovait might help02:27
Cokeyhuh?02:27
Kyral!es02:27
siriusnovaftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/manuals/befw11s4ug.pdf02:27
Kyraldamn where is the bot02:27
Cokeykyral, you do what/02:28
visitakyral  es h ou m?02:28
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Cokeywhat is a good dc++ for ubuntu?02:28
tritiumvisita, #ubuntu-pt02:28
lisa_Hey all02:28
Kyralwhat is pt?02:28
Flashmattsiriusnova: I'll keep digging...02:28
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Flashmattsiriusnova: thanks though...02:28
cmathesonCokey: g++?02:28
Milk_any ideas?02:28
Cokeydc++02:28
Cokeydirect connect02:28
KyralDirect Connect02:29
Cokeysomething with a k....02:29
cafuegoKyral: The bots host's international link died 15 minutes ago02:29
Cokeyi think02:29
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robotgeekCokey: dcgui02:29
lisa_I have a quick question (I'm new to Linux)02:29
Kyrallisa_: this is what all use Gurus are here for02:30
KyralKeep in mind we are very opinionated Gurus ;P02:30
lisa_when I installed today it didn't ask me for a super user account02:30
cmathesonlisa_: sudo02:30
Kyralubotu tell.....damnit02:30
robotgeekdammit!02:30
Milk_correct lisa_02:30
Milk_thats the ubuntu way02:31
cafuegoOh deary deary me02:31
cmathesonhave we not documented sudo or something?02:31
Flashmattsiriusnova: do you recommend me doing a mac filter instead?02:31
Kyralcmatheson: we have02:31
robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:31
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cafuegonow their subnet with dns servers has done poo as well02:31
lisa_yes, then it asks for my pass which when I type in my user pass it doesn't like it02:31
bimberiCokey: valknut ?02:31
Kyrallisa_: wiki.ubuntu.com:RootSudo02:31
maxkelleycan someone help me setup apache2 and php5? for some reason, I cannot get it to work. I have tried, but to no avail.02:31
tritiumpoor ubotu...please resurrect him, cafuego02:31
Kyralcafuego: yes!02:32
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Cokeyahhh yea02:32
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Cokeythats the one02:32
lisa_cool, thanks Kyral02:32
Cokeyany one that will really work tho02:32
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Kyralcafuego: you should mirror Ubotu :P02:32
Cokeydoesnt matter to me02:32
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Cokeyand where do i find the prog after its install from synaptic?02:32
bimbericafuego: probably related but ubuntu.cc.com.au not working either :|02:32
Milk_does nautilus run in the background normally?02:32
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maxkelleyanyone done it?02:33
cafuegobimberi: same box02:33
bimbericafuego: oops, nvm, working now :)02:33
maxkelleyI really can't get php5 and apache2 to work together02:33
cafuegobimberi: Well, it works for *me*02:33
maggardnewb here.  Any idea why ubuntu install freezes on the 'starting the partitioner' phase?02:33
pc22any netscape for ubuntu?02:33
tritiumpc22, firefox02:33
KyralNETSCAPE?! Now thats a name I haven't heard in LONG time02:33
tritiumObi Wan?  Now thats a name...02:33
Kyrallol02:34
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maxkelleywhenever I try and go to a php file, it prompts me to *download* it instead of actually running it on the server. please, please, help me.02:34
pc22tritium, some sites wont allow me view without IE or netscape02:34
pc22hows that?02:34
cafuegopc22: Idiot web developers.02:34
cafuegopc22: But firefox should still work just fine.02:34
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maxkelleypc22: well, that's the downside of linux.02:34
bimbericafuego: i did have problems earlier, honest02:34
cmathesonmaxkelley: go look at the php documentation, you haven't set it up yet02:34
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B_166-ER-X!repaircd02:35
cafuegobimberi: it should now have stopped working again, too.02:35
Kyralmaxkelley: no, its WebDevs being complete idiots02:35
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maxkelleycmatheson: I have apache2, php5, libapache2-mod-php5 all installed02:35
bimbericafuego: yeah i noticed, but wasn't going to mention it again :P02:35
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cmathesonmaxkelley: k, but that doesn't mean you've set it up02:35
B_166-ER-Xcan someone point me where to get a 'repair' or 'boot' cd to FSCK a linux install ?02:35
NeverDreamI installed Kubuntu with apt, but I've decided I don't like it, is there a way i can remove it all without manually selecing each package?02:35
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: the live cd, or knoppix02:35
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KyralB_166-ER-X: You can use the Install CD02:35
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Milk_has anyone ever had a problem with the firestarter tray icon?02:35
B_166-ER-Xi have the live, and install, but..how ?02:36
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: just boot off it and then run 'fsck /dev/foobar'02:36
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B_166-ER-Xthere is a Memtest on the live but i didnt see fsck02:36
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: boot off of it, and then open up a command-line02:36
KyralB_166-ER-X: boot with "rescue"02:36
Milk_hrm.. none of my tray icons are working02:36
tritiumlivecd can fsck for sure, B_166-ER-X (I've had to use it)02:36
Kyralinstead of hitting enter02:37
maxkelleycmatheson: where is the documentation for php? on the ubuntu site or php.net ?02:37
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Chris_Tuckeri just apt-got mercury, its installed, appearantly, but when i look for a menu addition, theres none, and typeing mercury or man mercury at the terminal does nothing... how do i launch mercury?02:37
XenguyM_Cheevy: /b02:37
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varsendaggerwhat is mercury?02:37
cmathesonmaxkelley: /usr/share/doc/<packagename> always has documentation, or you could look at the documentation on php's site, or search the wiki02:37
NeverDreamHow do I remove Kubuntu from apt?!02:37
Chris_Tuckera messenger client for MSN02:37
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rabidsnailI'm trying to install a Linksys WUSB11 with ndiswrapper, and after I ndiswrapper -i all of the inf files, and ndiswrapper -l says drivers installed, hardware present, when I open network settings it can't find the adapter02:37
cafuegovarsendagger: yet another version control system02:37
KyralNeverDream: Remove?02:37
NeverDreamyeah02:37
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Chris_Tuckerits supposed to be just as good as msn 7.0 in windows02:37
Kyralrabidsnail: sudo ndiswrapper -m :P02:37
B_166-ER-XI jsut dont see what you mean...when i boot with the Live cd, for instance, i gives me a Boot:     (enter for live system)02:38
rabidsnaildid that02:38
NeverDreamI did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but I don't want it02:38
B_166-ER-Xits there i should write rescue ?02:38
phyburnwhat would be a good program to run .exe ?02:38
Kyralrabidsnail: then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:38
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: maybe you should hit enter then02:38
cafuegoChris_Tucker: So it runs when you don't want it to and gets you spammed?02:38
Kyralphyburn: Wine02:38
rabidsnaildid that too02:38
HobbseeNeverDream: aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop02:38
Kyralrabidsnail: iwconfig?02:38
phyburnKyral it wont let me download it off apt-get02:38
rabidsnailcomes up with nothing02:38
Kyral....02:38
B_166-ER-Xcmatheson,  and once in live systeme...whats the use ?02:38
robotgeekmy wireless card is dropping connection at will. What is weird is it doesn't disconnect. if a connection is persistent, it stays "on". it drops the inactive ones. any clues?02:38
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Chris_Tuckercafuego, dont know, i havent had that prob with msn 7.0 and havent gotten mercury to run yet :S02:38
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: you can run fsck from the command-line02:38
rabidsnail"no wireless extensions"02:38
B_166-ER-Xcmatheson,  i tried02:38
B_166-ER-Xit just gived me a number version02:39
phyburnKyral its giving me a referred to error02:39
B_166-ER-X1.38 or something02:39
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: man fsck02:39
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Kyralphyburn: why would you need Apt for .exe02:39
markyhey all i'm back02:39
robotgeekphyburn: msttcorefonts?02:39
NeverDreamit only removed the meta-package02:39
Wei_Lihow do I install video codecs for ubuntu live?02:39
markyjust ironing out my install on a d60002:39
B_166-ER-Xarrr02:39
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Chris_Tuckerhow would i launch mercury?02:39
B_166-ER-Xi dont see at all ...  :\02:39
markywei_li in usr/lib02:39
B_166-ER-XKyral,   what do you mean 'boot with 'rescue' ?02:40
phyburnKyral no im trying to `apt-get install wine` but it wont let me02:40
cmathesonChris_Tucker: if no one is answering it may be because no one knows02:40
markyusr/lib/win3202:40
Wei_Limarky: usr/lib?02:40
optishwhat's the trick to getting firestarter working dnsmasq?02:40
Wei_Limarky: oh ok... thanks02:40
marky:) glad to be of help02:40
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Chris_Tuckercmatheson, or no one sees it that knows, which is more likely. i have used irc for many years, i know in a room such as this it is easy to miss any thing02:40
markyi only learnt that the other day in here02:40
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bimberiphyburn: what type of processor (wine only runs on i386)?02:41
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KyralB_166-ER-X: Yanno when you load it it stops and you have to hit enter to continue?02:41
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B_166-ER-Xyep..02:41
B_166-ER-XBoot:     (enter for live system)02:41
Kyralnow type "rescue"02:41
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Kyraland hit enter02:41
B_166-ER-Xhm02:42
B_166-ER-Xokay02:42
B_166-ER-Xi'll try02:42
Kyralw/o the ":02:42
Kyralerr02:42
optishi have manage to get dhcp3-server working with firestarter and connection sharing but i am unable to get dnsmasq to work with firestarter02:42
Kyralw/o the ""02:42
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B_166-ER-Xyeah :P02:42
B_166-ER-Xthx02:42
phyburnbimberi yup it is02:42
SoBeAChey anyone know how to set a screen resolution that isn't listed on the screen resolution program?02:42
lisa_Kyral I have another question if you have time02:43
cmathesonSoBeAC: sounds like X is configured wrong02:43
phyburnbimberi: `Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:43
phyburnThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:43
phyburnis only available from another source02:43
phyburn`02:43
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Kyrallisa_: not really but shoot02:43
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phyburnBimberi its just that standard message02:43
markyanybody know how to get 3gp video files from nokia phones to run on ubuntu? i got the video but no sound in vlc and in xine02:43
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mettallicathow i say to ppp not start with ubunto and start adsl-init ( i have this adsl-init in /etc/init.d/ )02:44
optishSoBeAC, what do you mean by "Screen resolution program"?02:44
bimberiphyburn: you need the universe repository enabled02:44
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bimberiphyburn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:44
SoBeACsorry, haven't used irc in years, forget how to send private messages...the screen resolution program under the system menu02:45
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cmathesonSoBeAC: you're going to have to reconfigure X02:45
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lisa_I have a cisco VPN client I have to install to connect to my office02:45
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Kyrallisa_: I know nothing about VPN02:46
phyburnBimeri ok thanks02:46
mettallicatacn u help me with init scrips02:46
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lisa_ok, it's cool, thanks02:47
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!christel:*! Hi all! Interested in the discussion and support of copylefts? We all are, and we are familiar with (but not limited to) CC, GPL, LGPL, Apache and BSD style licenses! Why not join us in ##copyleft ? 02:47
SoBeACok I'll give it a shot, thanks02:47
bimberiphyburn: np :)02:47
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markyis there anyway of seeing all the services running and stiopping the un necisary ones?02:47
cmathesonmarky: top02:47
markysorry  , still not used to laptop keyboards and its dark in here02:48
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Wei_Lihow do I install video codecs for ubuntu live i have no idea what is ment by usr/lib/win3202:48
Wei_LiD:02:48
ptlohow do i change the language for my session in gnome/ubuntu?02:48
cmathesonmarky: (or ps if you're looking for something less interactive)02:48
livindedi'm having some problems connecting to my wireless access point using a server install and xubuntu, it doesn't seem to see it though i can see it with kismet02:48
cmathesonptlo: you can choose it from a menu in gdm iirc02:48
mettallicatWei_Li, u need to add a extra repository02:48
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marky?02:48
Wei_Limettallicat: how do i do that?02:48
ptlocmatheson: oh, ok; is there a way to apply the change without restarting the session?02:48
mettallicatWei_Li, w8 a sec02:48
Wei_Limettallicat: ok02:48
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Killer_Smurflivinded is it the ath card?02:48
bimberimarky: System -> Administration -> Services02:49
livindedatheros D-link DWL-G650002:49
Killer_Smurf650 or 650002:49
seifeHow do i install an IRC client in SuSE? It doesnt come with one.02:49
cmathesonptlo: not that i know of... however you may be able to start apps in a different language from the command line (e.g 'LANG=zh_TW LC_ALL=zh_TW LOCALE=... some_program')02:49
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livindedoh sorry, 65002:49
cmathesonseife: wrong channel02:49
markybimberi is that all of the services running?02:49
Kyralseife: Wrong Channel indeed02:49
seifesorry02:49
Kyralseife: But I would look in Yast02:50
ptlocmatheson: that's what i'm looking for, thannks02:50
livindedi'm not sure if i'm using the commands wrong or why its not working02:50
Killer_Smurfok iwlist ath0 scan02:50
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Killer_Smurflet me know on the other channel02:50
mettallicatWei_Li, just add to your sources.list02:50
livindedinterface doesn't support scanning02:50
Killer_Smurfor pm me02:50
constantine-xviseife: either use gaim or google "xchat rpm suse"02:50
mettallicatdeb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free02:50
mettallicatdeb-src ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free02:50
bimberimarky: no, just the main ones. Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor gives a complete list02:51
Killer_SmurfI have the same card try sudo iwlist ath0 sacn02:51
livindedKiller_Smurf, i'm in sudo su right now02:51
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seifeconstantine-xvi thx.02:51
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markybimberi thanks02:52
bimberimarky: np :)02:52
mettallicatWei_Li, then make apt-get update and apt-get install w32codecs02:52
constantine-xviseife: youre welcome02:52
robotgeekmy wireless card is dropping connection at will. What is weird is it doesn't disconnect. if a connection is persistent, it stays "on". it drops the inactive ones. any clues?02:52
Wei_Liok i'll try that out thanks mettallicat02:53
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techrushfor a p4 w/ hyper threading should i use the 686-smp kernel ?02:53
markybimberi do you know anything about the network configuration in ubuntu? i can sometimes surf my windows network, but it wants me to join a domain instead of a workgroup , any ideas?02:53
optishanyone using dnsmasq here?02:53
robotgeekthe browser doesn't connect, though the irc goes thru. it's not an issue with the router, because my other machine is able to connect02:54
B1zzhello hello02:54
B_166-ER-XIs there a SIMPLE way to FSCK a system without it being mounted ?02:54
KyralB_166-ER-X: fsck <device>02:54
constantine-xvimarky: just put in workgroup name and use a user/pass on the target02:54
KyralB_166-ER-X: You HAVE to fsck when its unmounted02:54
B_166-ER-XKyral,  i tried the 'rescue' logging in the live cd...  but then it ask me on what partition i want to log02:54
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B_166-ER-XI can i know this.02:54
B_166-ER-Xarr02:55
markyon the tar?02:55
KyralB_166-ER-X: whichever is normally mounted as /02:55
B_166-ER-XKyral,  i'm on the system i want to check, and it IS mounted.02:55
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: well you're going to have to know which partition if you plan on fsck'ing it02:55
B_166-ER-Xbut was not.02:55
B_166-ER-Xi had 4 ou 5 choices02:55
constantine-xvimarky: yeah02:55
KyralB_166-ER-X: uhh....then try a LiveCD02:55
B_166-ER-Xthat was with live cd.02:55
constantine-xvimarky: target == destination02:55
Paradossohi02:56
ParadossoI've got this very problem02:56
Paradossohttp://fetchmail.berlios.de/fetchmail-FAQ.html#R902:56
Paradossoany solution for ubuntu breezy?02:56
markythis happends when i got to Places/network servers02:56
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tritiumParadosso, no need to use the enter key as punctuation02:56
constantine-xviyeah02:56
DeMoNSeEdhello02:56
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Paradossosorry tritium02:57
cmathesonParadosso: sounds like a problem w/ your network, not  breezy02:57
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tritiumno worries, Paradosso02:57
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Paradossomy network connection works like a charm02:57
cmathesonParadosso: my fetchmail works like a charm02:57
constantine-xvimarky: just use "guest" and "<blank>", and domain==workgroup, that should do it02:57
AtlantisXHello everybody. I see you're quite busy, but I need some information concerning Ubuntu install. Does anyone have the time to help me? ^^02:57
Chris_Tuckerhow does one launch mercury after apt-get installing mercury?02:57
Paradossoso does mine until the MAIL FROM line :)02:57
cmathesonAtlantisX: just ask your questions02:58
sethknever ceases to amaze me that people say "my network has a problem" and then say "no, my network works perfectly"02:58
constantine-xviAtlantisX: ill take care of you02:58
cmathesonChris_Tucker: stop asking the same question over and over.  mercury is not an instant messenger if you apt-get installed it02:58
czer323What's the best way to have commands run at startup?  I tried adding something to the session startup, but it ended up preventing me from logging in.02:58
AtlantisXProblem is the following: I want to install Ubuntu but I heave no drives for anything, only LAN... -.-02:58
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AtlantisX*have02:58
DeMoNSeEdi have someone who thinking of trying ubuntu, but  he has dual heads and  dual cards, 1 nvidia and the other radeon, will this be possible to run dual heads on ubuntu02:58
markyi havn't got a domain  , i use a workgroup instead  ,but i can't find where to congue it02:58
cmathesonAtlantisX: you could try the livecd?02:58
constantine-xviAtlantisX: as in only a net card, no cd or anything?02:59
cmathesonDeMoNSeEd: yes02:59
constantine-xviAtlantisX: not even a floppy?02:59
Paradossocmatheson and sethk, I can fetch mail with thunderbird, so I don't think it is a network issue. Besides, the faw itself says it is a sendmail problem02:59
AtlantisXcmatheson: No, I don't have any drives at all... xD02:59
siriusnovaPop Tarts = AWesome02:59
DeMoNSeEdanythingspecial he'll have to do, so i can tell him in advance, he's burning the iso as we speak02:59
constantine-xviAtlantisX: that could be a problem02:59
sethkParadosso, the URL you posted for problem #9 says that it is a network problem02:59
sethkParadosso, did you mispost?02:59
cmathesonAtlantisX: yeowza, check out the edubuntu project maybe... that's dealing w/ the linux-terminal-server-project which sounds like just the thing for you02:59
AtlantisXThat is the problem, I wasn wondering if there was a USB stick instal or something.02:59
rafxParadosso: look into mtu size03:00
constantine-xviAtlantisX: i dont think ubuntu is net-boot03:00
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sethkParadosso, the word "sendmail" doesn't occur03:00
KyralChris_Tucker: AtlantisX Edubuntu comes with it I THINK03:00
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cmathesonAtlantisX: hmm, search digg.com or something... i think i saw an article like that recently03:00
sethkParadosso, if you don't mean R9, what do you mean?03:00
constantine-xviAtlantisX: can you steal the cd drive out of another machine?03:00
Paradossohttp://fetchmail.berlios.de/fetchmail-FAQ.html#H203:00
Paradossosorry03:00
AtlantisXcmatheson: I have an Ubuntu PC in the LAN, could that help?03:00
KyralAtlantisX: You may wanna try #edubuntu03:00
constantine-xviAtlantisX: or do you not have a HD?03:01
cmathesonAtlantisX: yes, i would check out edubuntu and/or ltsp03:01
AtlantisXconstantine-xvi: It's no lack of drives, my damn old notebook just doesn't have any slots... xD03:01
constantine-xviah03:01
DeMoNSeEdcmatheson, is there anything special he needs to install right off for the dual head dual card03:01
markyhow do i configure it to a workgroup not a domain? anyone?03:01
sethkParadosso, ok, that's a different problem, but I still see nothing there about sendmail03:01
cmathesonDeMoNSeEd: no, you'll just have to configure X... google for linux dual-head it's pretty easy03:01
AtlantisXAnd only 10gigs HD but that should do for the basic stuff... -.-03:02
cmathesonParadosso: sounds like your MTA is configured wrong... which one are you using?03:02
DeMoNSeEdk thank you....add another 1 to the world of ubuntu03:02
constantine-xviAtlantisX: net connection?03:02
AtlantisXI'll check edubuntu...03:02
AtlantisXconstantine-xvi: 6mbit DSL03:02
bimberiAtlantisX: there might be a method here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation03:02
constantine-xviAtlantisX: as in ethernet03:02
markyyup03:02
Paradossocmatheson, I use procmail03:02
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Paradossoand sendmail03:03
cmathesonParadosso: that's not your mta03:03
AtlantisXconstantine-xvi: 100mbit LAN, why?03:03
constantine-xvigood03:03
cmathesonParadosso: it's going to be exim, or sendmail, or postfix, or something like that03:03
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techrushis gnome-look.org down forever ?03:03
constantine-xviAtlantisX: not ubuntu, but some other net-bootable distro03:03
sethkcmatheson, he said sendmail, just on a different line  :)03:03
ParadossoI configured /etc/postfix/main.cf03:03
cmathesontechrush: i think the new site may be art.gnome.org03:03
cmathesonsethk: oh woops03:03
sethkParadosso, now you've said you use sendmail, but that you use postfix03:04
sethkParadosso, pick one, only one03:04
techrushhmm ok03:04
ParadossoI thought it was the same!03:04
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sethkParadosso, they are two different programs03:04
cmathesonParadosso: they are both mta's but they're very far from being the same03:04
Paradossoso how do I decide which one to use?03:04
nekostarer03:04
sethkParadosso, you may be confused by the fact that many MTAs including postfix and qmail have a program _called_ sendmail03:04
Paradossomail configuration is hell for a newbie :(03:05
cmathesonParadosso: just pick one and go w/ it... you could just stick w/ the default of exim03:05
sethkParadosso, to preserve compatibility with brain dead apps that assume sendmail is the only MTA In the universe03:05
cmathesonParadosso: they come /w pretty sensible defaults03:05
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=== AtlantisX checks the ideas so far... >-< Gimme a few minutes.
constantine-xviAtlantisX: gentoo has a netboot install, but gentoo is also a very involved and hard to install distro from what ive heard.  you might be up to the challenge03:05
nekostarso my cd rom is complaining it wont mount as user so its borked??03:05
nekostarhow can i tell it to chill the fark out03:05
sethkParadosso, you started off saying you have a problem with fetchmail.  That likely has nothing whatsoever to do with MTA03:05
Paradossocmatheson, sethk : the thing is I don't know how to let my machine know which one I want to use03:05
B1zzhi all. I just installed the ATI drivers for my ATI 9550 card but when i run tuxracer its still laggy(no 3d acceleration) any idea what to do next?03:05
cmathesonParadosso: sudo aptitude install some_mail_transfer_agent03:06
AtlantisXconstantine-xvi: That's why I usually prefer Ubuntu. xD03:06
ParadossoI have both sendmail and postfix installed03:06
cmathesonParadosso: how did you manage that?03:06
sethkParadosso, yes, I understand that both are installed.03:06
constantine-xviB1zz: go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change xserver from ati to fglrx03:06
nekostar!_!03:06
Paradossoit was by default on ubuntu breezy03:06
sethkParadosso, but your fetchmail problem has nothing to do with MTA configuration03:06
tritiumB1zz, you installed the fglrx ubuntu packages?03:06
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Paradossosethk, the faq says: "The hang is actually occuring when sendmail looks up a sender's address in DNS. The problem isn't in fetchmail but in the configuration of sendmail."03:07
Paradossoso I assume it is actually a sendmail problem03:07
synackuatordoes anyone know a fix for broken automounting of usb devices?03:07
B1zzno sir i did not03:07
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cmathesonsynackuator: how is it broken?03:07
B1zzi got the drivers from the ATI site03:07
robotgeekanyone willing to help me with procmail+fetchmail? will mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %s" in .fetchmailrc do the trick?03:07
nekostaroik03:07
tritiumB1zz, you should use the ubuntu packages03:07
sethkParadosso, no, that makes no sense at all03:07
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synackuatorcmatheson, i can plug in usb devices all day and it won't automount them.  i have to mount them manually03:08
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tritiumB1zz, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:08
robotgeeksynackuator: try typing gnome-volume-manager in a terminal03:08
Paradossosethk, it's just what the faq says, I am completely confused by now03:08
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B1zzwill do chief03:08
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cmathesonsynackuator: hmm, i don't know... it always worked for me when i used gnome... now i don't run gnome so i do it manually too (that is the way i prefer)03:08
B1zzgonna try that right now03:08
Ne0phyt3hey, i was wondering if someone could help me out, i installed kubuntu or ubuntu 2.6.12-90-386, and by accident through adept i selected to remove gcc 4.01 (i think that was the package name) and it started uninstalling programs like adept, acpi, etc..03:08
robotgeeksethk: u a fetchmail/procmail guru?03:08
Ne0phyt3 i closed it because i realized what was going on, is there any way to get these back without reinstalling?03:08
sethkParadosso, fetchmail talks to POP and IMAP servers.  MTAs implement SMTP.  One is a mail client protocol, the other is a mail server protocol03:08
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tritiumgood luck, B1zz03:08
sethkrobotgeek, I'm good with email in general.  I've used fetchmail, but I don't know everything in the world about it.03:09
ParadossoI see sethk03:09
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robotgeeksethk: do you have filtering with procmail? do i make sense at all?03:09
Paradossowhen I run fetchmail -v, the hang arises after the SMTP MAIL FROM line03:09
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sethkParadosso, what I would do in your situation is to use strace to find out exactly why fetchmail fails.  But the output of strace can be difficult to interpret.03:09
cmathesonsethk: might fetchmail be using the mta to deliver mail locally?03:09
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bimberitritium: good to see some people know authority when they read it :)03:09
Ne0phyt3anyone have any ideas?03:09
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synackuatorrobotgeek, already running03:09
sethkrobotgeek, yes, you make sense.  I usually use maildrop, which is like procmail but not quite as complex.03:09
B-166_ER-X: always trying to run a FSCK,    i'm on another Pc now  \ on four, there was only one partition i was able to log on, and when trying to fsck, it says that it IS mounted and dangerous ect..03:09
buliodo I run apt-get update or apt-get dist-update first?03:09
sethkrobotgeek, but the concept of filtering is perfectly clear03:09
B-166_ER-Xwasnt that Supposed to PREVENT that ?03:10
tritiumbimberi, heh ;)03:10
buliowhen upgrading to ubuntu 5.10 from 4.10?03:10
linkdbulio: update first03:10
sethkrobotgeek, what I don't see (at least immediately) is how this might involve fetchmail.03:10
cmathesonB_166-ER-X: why don't you just mount it read-only? mount -o remount,ro /03:10
linkdbulio: and its dist-upgrade not dist-update03:10
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sethkrobotgeek, let's back up.  tell us what you are trying to do and what isn't working for you.03:10
Paradossosethk, I don't have a clue what strace is03:10
robotgeeksethk: yes, i tried my filters out and they work. how do i get procmail to filter the mail retrieved by fetchmail?03:10
bulioso apt-get update?03:10
linkdbulio: so apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade03:10
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B-166_ER-Xcmatheson,  just how am i supposed to mount my main partition read only ???03:11
buliojust type it like that?03:11
BlueDevilsynackuator: is ivman running?03:11
cmathesonrobotgeek: i think you need to edit your .forward... i don't know the exact line to add though... google03:11
cmathesonB-166_ER-X: i just gave you the freaking command03:11
B-166_ER-Xeven more being in a live rescure session<03:11
Paradossoand cmatheson, I'd like to use mutt as a MUA and it depends on postfix I think03:11
Ne0phyt3can anyone even see this? (don't mean to be impatient just wanna make sure)03:11
linkdbulio: u can do it u want to do both, one after the other yes, but u might need to prefix "sudo" to the front of both commands first :)03:11
synackuatorBlueDevil, no03:11
sethkrobotgeek, in general, have fetchmail resend the mail to the mail server running on your machine (that is, the machine that is running procmail).  Have fetchmail send the mail instead of having fetchmail write the mail directly into the client mailbox03:11
cmathesonParadosso: it doesn't depend on postfix, any will do03:11
bimberiNe0phyt3: no :P03:11
sethkrobotgeek, the reason is that procmail is part of the delivery process03:11
Ne0phyt3bim: thx03:11
buliolinkdd: dist-upgrade first I guess03:11
bulioI'm coming from 4.1003:11
sethkrobotgeek, but if fetchmail writes to the mailbox file, the delivery process doesn't happen03:12
robotgeekcmatheson: i tht i did not need the .forward if i had mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %s"03:12
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sethkrobotgeek, I'm not sure that's a clear explanation.03:12
linkdbulio: no no, apt-get update first, to update ur repo list, THEN apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade ur distribution03:12
Paradossocmatheson, if I apt-get remove postfix, mutt is removed as well03:12
robotgeeksethk: yes, i get you.03:12
Ne0phyt3lol if i have tyo reinstall again its gonna be the 5th time today :(03:12
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B-166_ER-Xcmatheson,  read only, but if the fsck have to modify things .. ?03:12
sethkNe0phyt3, then it will very probably be the 5th unnecessary time03:12
cmathesonrobotgeek: have you checked your mail logs to see if it's running everything through procmail?03:12
Ne0phyt3seth: help me out lol03:12
cmathesonParadosso: well you will need some sort of mta... be it postfix, exim, sendmail, etc.  it really doesn't matter03:12
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bulioReading Package Lists... Done03:13
bulioBuilding Dependency Tree... Done03:13
bulioCalculating Upgrade... Done03:13
bulio0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded03:13
cmathesonB-166_ER-X: just try it03:13
tritiumbulio, don't paste03:13
linkdbulio: make sure uve edited your sources.list first tho to make sure it knows to upgrade03:13
buliothat can't be right...03:13
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buliohow do I do that?03:13
robotgeekcmatheson: checking, one sec03:13
bimberiNe0phyt3: try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (i'm guessing it's kubuntu because you mentioned adept)03:13
Paradossocmatheson, let's say I want postfix03:13
B-166_ER-Xcmatheson,  from the live cd rescue, command line ?03:13
linkdbulio: ok ok, ill walk you through it03:13
buliolinkd: may I PM?03:13
linkdbulio: sure why not03:13
Paradossohow do I solve the MAIL FROM fetchmail hang?03:13
bimberiNe0phyt3: um,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:13
Ne0phyt3apt-get command not found03:13
Ne0phyt3ah03:13
sethkParadosso, I told you, it has nothing to do with MTA03:13
cmathesonB-166_ER-X: it really doesn't matter at all.  if it's mounted either unmount it, or mount it read-only03:13
sethkParadosso, so if you look at MTA configuration, you'll never solve it.03:14
Ne0phyt3damn03:14
Ne0phyt3sudo: apt-get: command not found03:14
cmathesonParadosso: ok let's say you do.  run dpkg-reconfigure postfix and configure it correctly this time03:14
bimberiNe0phyt3: hm, that's not good03:14
Paradossosethk, so what should I do?03:14
hyphenatedthat's very very bad03:14
Ne0phyt3it got through like 10-15 packages b4 i closed the window and realized what was going on03:14
Paradossosethk and cmatheson, it seems to me you are suggesting completely different things03:14
robotgeekcmatheson: i don't think fetchmail is respecting the mda.03:14
buliolinkd: read PM03:14
bimberiNe0phyt3: looks like apt was one of the packages :|03:15
cmathesonParadosso: try what sethk is saying first03:15
BlueDevilsynackuator: check if you have ivman installed03:15
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: hope like h that you still have dpkg installed03:15
Ne0phyt3i do03:15
sethkParadosso, you have valid MTA questions, they just don't relate to your fetchmail question03:15
cmathesonrobotgeek: hmm, i would add a .forward file then... it sounds like fetchmail isn't going through your mta03:15
Ne0phyt3im reading the manual right now03:15
Ne0phyt3i saw in adept in the console it would write out dpkg complete03:15
Ne0phyt3so i figure thats the background to the gui03:15
robotgeekcmatheson: even though i explicitly tell it to.03:15
sethkParadosso, run fetchmail with strace.  man strace will tell you how, at least a bit.  then post the output on a pastebot and we'll look at it.03:15
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: and just for a laugh, try going into /var/cache/apt/archives and seeing if there's some .deb fies03:16
sethkParadosso, I'll probably ask you to rerun it with different options, but you have to start somewhere.03:16
maxkelleylisten, I really really really need help installing php5 and apache203:16
cmathesonrobotgeek: where exactly are you telling it to? in your main.cf or something?03:16
Ne0phyt3some.. A LOT03:16
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sethkrobotgeek, your life would be a lot simpler if what you do is to put a .forward file (or equivalent) on the machine that fetchmail is getting mail _from_03:16
robotgeekcmatheson: why would it be main.cf, that's postfix.03:16
Ne0phyt3starts at alien and goes to wbritish03:17
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: yay. is apt one of them?03:17
sethkrobotgeek, that way the mail gets sent to the machine where procmail will process it.03:17
maxkelleyevery time I try and access a .php file, the browser offers it to download, which is wrong. please, can someone help me configure the two CORRECTLY.03:17
robotgeeksethk: gmail :)03:17
constantine-xvidoes anyone know how to enable the debian/gentoo style framebuffer console?03:17
cmathesonrobotgeek: sorry i don't understand where you are telling it your mda, i thought that's what you were talking about03:17
Ne0phyt3nope :(03:17
Ne0phyt3alien , apache, aspell, avm, bazaar03:17
sethkrobotgeek, if you can forward the mail on the remote mail servers, then you bypass fetchmail.  Otherwise you'll have to figure out why fetchmail isn't sending the mail as you expect it to.03:17
Ne0phyt3looks like packages i might not have installed03:17
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: you'll have to download it manually.03:17
sethkrobotgeek, you could post your fetchmailrc file on a post bot and we can look at it, if you like.03:18
robotgeekcmatheson: i put it in fetchmailrc , i'm going to try googling some more03:18
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: it's a cache. they might have been installed recently, or just downloaded, in preparation for installing03:18
BlueDevilmaxkelley: you need to add a handler to apache to run php scripts not serve them to the browser; you can find install docs on php site03:18
Ne0phyt3ok but once i get apt, will ineed to get online?03:18
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robotgeeksethk: okay, let me get rid of the passwords and stuff :)03:18
cmathesonrobotgeek: ok... i've never tried adding that line to my fetchmailrc.  .forward has always worked wonderfully for me however03:18
PhoulIs gnome-look/org down?03:18
Phoulgnome-look.org*03:18
Ne0phyt3ive been transferring all the files w/ my ipod03:18
robotgeekcmatheson: hmm, i'll try that first03:18
_jasonPhoul, yes03:18
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: it'll help, but try and get it off the install CD or somesuch03:18
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Ne0phyt3thats the whole thing i been trying to get online through teh wifi (only connection avaiable)03:18
Ne0phyt3oh ok03:18
Phoul_jason, still!03:18
Ne0phyt3i have that..03:18
PhoulGah!03:18
Ne0phyt3so i can download apt from sourceforge or a ubuntu site?03:18
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Paradossosethk, how do I run fetchmail with strace?03:19
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Killer3kif you are running ubuntu then you will already have apt03:19
Ne0phyt3apt-get.org?03:19
cmathesonParadosso: strace fetchmail03:19
bimberiNe0phyt3: via http://packages.ubuntu.com (assuming you have a working browser)03:19
fushiYou should have it03:19
Ne0phyt3yeah03:19
Ne0phyt3im on my desktop right now03:20
Ne0phyt3installed ubuntu to the laptop03:20
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sethkParadosso, in general, to run the command foo with strace, you would do:    strace foo > output.file03:20
hyphenatedNe0phyt3: http://packages.ubuntu.com/03:20
Ne0phyt3everything went well, it even tried to install the wireless card but that didn't fly03:20
hyphenatedah, bimberi already said it :-)03:20
sethkParadosso, or, better,  strace -o output-file-name foo03:20
sethkParadosso, if fetchmail spawns child processes we'll have to get fancier, but try that first03:20
DloaHow can i get a eggdrop on ubunti03:20
bimberihyphenated: one of my very rare wins :P03:20
cmathesonDloa: ?03:20
Dloaa eggdrop on ubuntu03:20
Killer3kanyone know how to set up a hauppage nova-t usb TV card in Ubuntu?03:21
Dloalike the command m03:21
Dloamake03:21
BlueDevilsynackuator: still there?03:21
Dloatcl03:21
constantine-xvidoes anyone know how to enable the debian/gentoo style framebuffer console?03:21
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Paradossoshould I stop fetchmail as it hangs sethk?03:21
bob832i'm setting up a static ip for my system - for gateway address, would that be the ip address of my router?  the same one i use to access the config page?03:21
cmathesonbob832: yes03:22
bob832cool, thanks03:22
Killer3kbob832: yes it would be the ip of your router03:22
sethkParadosso, yes, let it go for maybe 30 seconds, then kill it.03:22
bimberiDloa: eggdrob is in the universe repository03:22
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Paradossodone03:22
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Paradossowhere do i paste the output?03:22
sethkParadosso, there is a pastebot URL in the topic03:22
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Kuyaedzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:22
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sethkParadosso, robotgeek, I have to fix something for a paying customer.  I'll be back shortly, hopefully.03:23
Dloabimberi, ok, how do i access it?03:23
AtlantisXOkay, I had an idea... What if I copy the minimal files on my HD (NTFS, fucking windows) and try to install it from there somehow?03:23
bimberiDloa: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:23
Ne0phyt3figures my ipod doesnt get picked up when i dock it now03:23
Ne0phyt3on the desktop i mean03:23
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czer323sadfo03:24
Ne0phyt3gotta go through usb instead of firewire03:24
visitaai blz03:24
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visitaalguem sbe portugues aki03:25
_jason!br03:25
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visitasim03:25
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bimberiAtlantisX: sounds a bit like - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows03:25
Paradossosethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/568503:25
_jasonvisita, /j #ubuntu-br03:25
optishgah....i'm going mad....firestarter doesnt want to seem to work with dnsmasq...someone help!03:25
visitasim03:25
visitaeu  a primeira vez que uso o mirc03:26
frogzoo!es03:26
visitato meio perdido03:26
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_jasonvisita, escreve isto: /j #ubuntu-br03:26
robotgeeksethk,cmatheson_ it worked with the .forward file03:26
robotgeeknow, i am going to try it without :)03:26
visitavalew03:26
AtlantisXbimberi: Nice find, that looks helpful. Thanks.03:27
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frogzoowhat, no ubotu?03:27
Dloaok03:27
Dloahow do i get the command make03:27
bimberiAtlantisX: np :)03:27
_jasonvisita, tambem podes ir a #ubuntu-pt da mesma maneira, mas normalmente no chat br ha mais pessoas03:27
frogzoo-> #ubuntu-es03:27
visitaok03:27
bimberifrogzoo: not currently no :(03:28
visitavlw msm amigo03:28
frogzooseems a common problem lately...03:28
_jasonfrogzoo, portuguese not spanish :)03:28
Ne0phyt3"dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"03:28
DloaHow do i set my printer on ubuntu03:28
bimberiDloa: you can sudo apt-get install make, but you'll probably be better off installing build-essential03:28
intelikeyDloa sudo apt-get install build-essential03:28
frogzooDloa: tried -> admin -> printers?03:29
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Dido-Anyone here managed to setup lan network between Xp and Ubuntu??03:29
frogzoointelikey: build-essential is not required to install a printer03:29
Toma-also, get checkinstall while youre at it. much better than using "make install"03:29
varsendaggerdido use samba03:29
varsendaggerDido-,03:29
intelikeyfrogzoo scroll up03:29
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varsendagger!samba03:30
stefcan some here help me pls03:30
robotgeeksethk,cmatheson_ it does not work without the .forward. it works great with it. thanks for your help!03:30
frogzoointelikey: ah, k03:30
Toma-stef: ask away03:30
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varsendaggerstef waht up?03:30
_jasonstef, aska a question and we can try :)03:30
Hobbsee!tell stef about ask03:30
stefhow do i use voice chat on knoppix03:30
intelikeyfrogzoo sorry i lag.03:30
varsendagger??03:30
Dido-varsendagger, what's samba, i guess it's not included in ubuntu..03:30
bimberistef: #knoppix03:30
Toma-stef: youre in the wrong channel. ask in knoppix03:31
Ne0phyt3ok i killed the previously running dpkg03:31
frogzooDido-: samba is a network file system for talking to windows servers via the SMB or CIFS protocols03:31
stefwere is it firdt time using this03:31
intelikeyDido- samba is very much included in ub.03:31
bimberiDido-: the samba client is (smbclient) - allows connection to windows file and printer shares03:31
Ne0phyt3"cannot access archive: No such file or directory"03:31
bimberiDido-: samba (server) is available in ubuntu repositories03:31
Ne0phyt3anyone?03:31
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intelikeyNe0phyt3 from what command do you get that E;03:32
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Ne0phyt3dpkg -i apt_0.6....03:32
Dido-thanks guys, i'm installing it now03:33
frogzooNe0phyt3: mebbe an old lock file left about?03:33
Ne0phyt3?03:33
Ne0phyt3i downloaded the apt.deb file, copied it to home dir03:33
Ne0phyt3did a ps aux03:33
Ne0phyt3saw /usr/bin/dpkg already running03:33
Ne0phyt3so i killed that03:33
intelikeyNe0phyt3 then is apt_0.6.... in the $PWD ?03:33
bimberiNe0phyt3: are you running the command in the correct dir?03:33
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shakuhashihi03:33
Ne0phyt3what dir do i have to run it in?03:33
Ne0phyt3im in home/myaccount03:34
shakuhashiwhich is the name of the ubuntu distro for old machines?03:34
shakuhashithe one we start installing as a server..03:34
bimberiNe0phyt3: the same as the file (unless you specify the whole path)03:34
Ne0phyt3im in that dir03:34
frogzooNe0phyt3: dpkg uses apt-get - if you were installing a new version, & killed the process ....03:34
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WeiLion ubuntu live I'm unable to make changes because apparently i'm not the root, how would I get "root" status?03:34
intelikeythe one it is in.   if 'ls ' shows the .deb run it in that dir else cd to where ever it is and run dpkg -i blah there.03:34
linkdWeiLi: sudo03:34
bimberiNe0phyt3: typo then?03:34
Toma-WeiLi: use "sudo""03:35
vladuz976i am building a kernel, for usb digi camera supports, what drives should i enable in the kernel?03:35
Ne0phyt3ok i dont have apt-get03:35
bimberishakuhashi: xubuntu?03:35
Ne0phyt3thats what im tyring to install03:35
WeiLiuse sudo in the terminal?03:35
MMondNe0phyt3: Why don't you have that?03:35
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intelikeyfrogzoo "dpkg uses apt-get"  error.   backwards my friend.03:35
linkdWeiLi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo would be useful for you to read :)03:36
WeiLiok thanks03:36
Dido-what's should i type to run samba in graphical mode03:36
frogzoointelikey: ah, the expert i c - thx03:36
Ne0phyt3because in adept i accidentally select gcc 4.01 or wahtever to be uninstalled03:36
bimberiDido-: what are you trying to do?03:36
Ne0phyt3then it started uninstalling a bunch of other projects03:36
shakuhashibimberi: this is a good choice but there is another one03:36
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shakuhashibimberi: i'm trying to remember the name03:36
optishwhat's the trick to getting firestarter to recognize dnsmasq with connection sharing...i can get dhcp request to work if i turn off firestarter and leave dnsmasq running03:37
MMondWell, you are in GUI mode, right Ne0phyt3?03:37
Ne0phyt3no03:37
Ne0phyt3yeah03:37
Ne0phyt3i mean im in xwindows03:37
bimberiDido-: Places -> Connect to Server (if you're connecting to a windows share)03:37
Dido-bimberi, i'm going to (try to) setup a lan network03:37
Ne0phyt3but tyring to install this through Konsole03:37
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intelikeyfrogzoo you can dpkg -r apt* and still use dpkg.  you can not apt-get remove dpkg  and still use apt....   check the deps.03:37
Ne0phyt3i just dont want to reinstall all of ubuntu if i can get these 10 or 20 packages back03:37
MMondWhat window manager are you using, by the way?03:37
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z0rzWow that was weird03:38
bimberishakuhashi: i don't think there's another *ubuntu flavour per se, but there is fluxbox03:38
Ne0phyt3should i just reinstall?03:38
intelikeyNe0phyt3 is synaptic installed ?03:38
alekzanyone has a ipod running with ubuntu ?03:38
Ne0phyt3whats synaptic?03:38
Ne0phyt3the only package manager ive ever used is adept03:39
Ne0phyt3i only installed today so i dont really know what im doing03:39
z0rzI couldn't ping any connection on my network and I had my default gateway/subnetmask/ip set up right .. the ethernet status light was normal and everything sound have been working03:39
bimberiDido-: ok, do you want ubuntu to run as a file (or print) server?03:39
z0rzI simply unplugged the net cable and plugged it back in and it fixed it... Anyone know why (using static ip)?03:39
bimberiDido-: or just for it to be able to access other servers?03:39
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Ne0phyt3ah03:39
Dido-bimberi, just to be able to transfer files with the xp pc03:39
Ne0phyt3for some reason03:40
WeiLion ubuntu live i typed in sudo apt-get install w32codecs but it says that it can't find package w32codecs how do i get by this?03:40
Ne0phyt3i couldnt isntall as root03:40
intelikeyNe0phyt3 in a terminal (konsole) type 'sudo synaptic '   if it is there you can install what you need there.03:40
Ne0phyt3i got apt installed as a regular user03:40
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AtlantisXapt as regular user won't help you much03:40
bimberiDido-: ok, share the folder on XP and then connect to it via Places -> Connect to Server...03:40
Ne0phyt3awesome03:40
frogzooz0rz: I get the same problem occassionally & nothing helps but disconnect/reconnect03:40
Ne0phyt3now im reinstalling adept03:40
Ne0phyt3which is what i used to uninstall stuff before03:41
z0rzweird03:41
Ne0phyt3and can probably use to reinstall now03:41
Ne0phyt3:-D03:41
Dido-bimberi, the problem is that xp pc doesn't see mine03:41
intelikeysynaptic = GUI frontend for dpkg.03:41
Ne0phyt3gotcha03:41
AtlantisXNe0phyt3: What exactly did you uninstall? Adept or apt-get?03:41
Ne0phyt3is adept just like a branch off of dpkg? cuz it deals with packages and dependencies as well03:41
Ne0phyt3both03:41
Ne0phyt3i just had dpkg03:41
z0rzfrogzoo kinda makes a remote system w/o kvm a bitch03:41
Ne0phyt3i downloaded apt from the net and put it on my ipod then onto laptop /home dir03:42
AtlantisXlol03:42
bimberiDido-: ok, if you want to serve from ubuntu, then System -> Administration -> Shared Folders03:42
Ne0phyt3wouldnt install w/ dpkg as root for some reason, so i did an "exit" and as my normal user i was able to install it03:42
intelikeyNe0phyt3 no it is a frontend for dpkg03:42
Ne0phyt3then with apt i did apt install adept03:42
Ne0phyt3now in adept reinstalling what was uninstalled before03:42
bimberiDido-: more here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28settingupsamba%2903:42
AtlantisXNe0phyt3: You can actually do that as normal user without sudo?03:42
bimberiheh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba    (a bit tidier)03:43
Ne0phyt3yeah03:43
frogzooz0rz: it looks like an autonegotiation problem - but Im not sure when end is the problem - the nic or my (wireless) modem03:43
Ne0phyt3it woudlnt work as root03:43
Ne0phyt3but worked as reguler user03:43
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Ne0phyt3how weird is that03:43
KissMyAssDblHashUdontKnow, quit it ass03:43
z0rzwell I have the realktek 8139c chipset on my nic and a linksys wrt54g wrouter03:43
z0rzrouter*03:43
Ne0phyt3now if someone could help me with my original problem my life would be complete lol03:44
AtlantisXNe0phyt3: That should not be possible without su or sudo >_>03:44
Ne0phyt3:-/ it happened03:44
Dido-bimberi, thanks03:44
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bimberiDido-: yw :)03:44
intelikeyAtlantisX local install03:44
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Ne0phyt3the original problem was getting my wpc54g v2 linksys wifi card to work03:44
Ne0phyt3ubuntu tries to use texas instruments acx 100/111 driver to install it based on chipset, but it doesn't work at all03:45
Ne0phyt3and all the forums ive read have just recomended ndiswrapper and newest drivers from linksys03:45
Ne0phyt3which also isnt working..03:45
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Ne0phyt3oh yeah, is there a way to install the remaining 300 packages?03:46
Ne0phyt3i have 935 installed it says there are like 1100 or 1200 total, can i just install them all to avoid dependency issues?03:46
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AtlantisXNe0phyt3: You removed them by uninstalling what? gcc, right? Just reinstall gcc. ;p03:46
Ne0phyt3yeah i just did :-D03:47
Ne0phyt3thanks03:47
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intelikeyNe0phyt3 search wikis for repos03:47
frogzooz0rz: you running pppoe over that link?03:47
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intelikeyNe0phyt3 there are near 16000 packages03:47
Ne0phyt3well with this cd there are about 120003:48
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intelikeyyes that is why you need to look up repos on the wiki Ne0phyt303:48
intelikey!repos03:48
intelikeybut the bot is not here right now.03:48
z0rzyeah frogzoo03:49
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Mrai blz03:49
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z0rzbut what's weird is the ubuntu box is on the local network.. and when it happends.. I can't ping anything (not even the router)03:49
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Mr#ubuntu br03:49
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frogzooz0rz: I think there's a problem when pppoe kicks off before the nics up - I disabled the auto start for pppoe - & bring it up by hand - now works every time03:50
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bondoDoes Anybody use Cedega\UBuntu64bitBreezy?03:50
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optishcan some tell me what's the trick to getting firestarter to recognize dnsmasq with connection sharing...i can get dhcp request to work if i turn off firestarter and leave dnsmasq running03:51
Mrcle/0,aid,120763,pg,12,00.asp | No pea por ajuda, diga logo sua dvida!03:51
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Razor-X!es03:51
z0rzEnglish please03:51
Razor-XUbotu?!03:51
SuentisHow can I get my soundblaster sound card to work?03:51
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Razor-Xnoooo!!!03:51
ilba7rhow can i make a package list of the packages I have on one pc inorder to install them on another pc03:51
intelikeyRazor-X ubotu is AWOL again03:52
Razor-XMr: #ubuntu-es03:52
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doofy`how do I enable DMA on a SATA drive?03:52
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Kuyaedzilba7r: dpkg -l I believe..03:52
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mephis1987i curently run with dual boot03:52
ilba7rthanx Kuaedz03:52
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frogzoomr -> #ubuntu-es per favor03:52
mephis1987but i want to dual run03:52
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jackmacokchas anyone ever configured CGIIRC?03:52
Kuyaedzilba7r: going to list quite a bit.  Might want to dpkg -l > list.txt03:52
Razor-Xfrogzoo: I think it was ``por favor'' :)03:52
mephis1987i mean i want to run windows and linux at the same time03:52
frogzoothx ;)03:53
mephis1987can i do that?03:53
z0rzwow they even have a spanish tech support03:53
Dido-My processor constantly uses 100% ... wtf?!03:53
intelikeyilba7r man apt-cache03:53
Razor-Xmephis1987: dual boot is the term you're looking for03:53
z0rznow that's one popular distro03:53
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Kuyaedzyes mephis198703:53
doofy`when i  try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda it says  setting using_dma to 1 (on)03:53
doofy` HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device03:53
ilba7rthanx Kuaedz i was going to pipe them to text file03:53
Razor-Xz0rz: of course, there should be help for human beings of all languages03:53
jackmacokcmephis1987: with vmware you can03:53
Razor-X....even though I see no Ubuntu Bengali help03:53
frogzooz0rz: ubuntu is big in Columbia & Brazil03:53
ilba7rwill try it intelikey though i only use aptitude will see if it make a diff03:53
eggieanyone give me a hand with live cd?03:53
mephis1987i mean i want to run both Linux and Windows OS03:53
Razor-Xoh well, can't have everything now, can we?03:53
intelikeyilba7r man dpkg     either can do that.03:53
z0rzwow .. that's cool03:53
z0rzHow do you say Ubuntu in English?03:53
Razor-Xmephis1987: what Windows flavor do you run?03:53
z0rzYou-Bun-Two03:54
z0rz?03:54
Razor-Xz0rz: I always wondered about that03:54
Kuyaedzmephis1987: yes you can dual-boot if thats what you're looking for--have the option of either OS at bootup03:54
mephis1987and i can swicth to each other if i want03:54
Brunellusz0rz:  I say Uh-boon-two.03:54
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Razor-Xz0rz: I say it the TLLTS way, ``Uh-buhn-too''03:54
_jasonz0rz, ooboontoo I believe03:54
mephis1987windows XP03:54
intelikeyoo-Bun-too03:54
z0rzI have some black friends that say You Bewn Two03:54
jackmacokcmephis1987: you can run linux in windows or windows in linux03:54
=== frogzoo a bun too
Razor-Xalthough I used to say ``oo-Boon-Too''03:54
Ne0phyt3no chacne anyone in here knows how to get a linksys wireless g pcmcia network card (WPC54G v2.0) working ?03:54
AtlantisXRazor-X: Report that and someone might make a bengali support site xD03:54
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eggieumm is the cdrom on a stock imac /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc?03:54
jackmacokc"eww-buhn-too" is how i say it03:55
_jasonhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation :)03:55
KuyaedzNe0phyt3: I checked the wiki and that doesn't have much help.  I have worked a lot with wireless & ndiswrapper.  Best thing is to find the right driver03:55
mephis1987i dont mean dual boot , i prefer dual run03:55
Kuyaedzthanks _jason03:55
Dido-My processor constantly uses 100% ... The problem is in firefox-bin, everything went normal when I stopped the proccess, any solutions?03:55
frogzoolol _jason - someone had to know03:55
z0rzlook slike the majority so eww-buhn-too03:55
robotgeekI have 2 machines connecting to the internet through a wireless router. One is connected through the ethernet cable, and the other using a wireless card. i ran a traceroute, and the computer with the wireless interface is lossing somewhere outside my router. i have no clue why this is happening. anyone?03:55
mephis1987the term dual run is better03:55
factotumi call it henry03:55
z0rzI say You-buhn-too03:55
Razor-Xfor that matter, how do you pronounce SABDFL? I say (Sa-hb dee-eff-ell) but others can say (ess aay dee eff ell) or (sa-hb d-uh-fuhl)03:55
intelikeyjackmacokc eww     :)03:55
eggieoops did i fail to say hello from japan?03:55
mephis1987is there any software that can run both of them as the same time ?03:55
Razor-Xmephis1987: as long as you have free space, and you have defragmented your NTFS partition, it should be good to go03:55
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Razor-Xeggie: you're from Japan? awesomeness03:56
jcsmithi say oo-boon-to03:56
eggiewell i guess lol03:56
Razor-Xmephis1987: but I *STRONGLY* suggest getting Partition Magic03:56
mephis1987uhm03:56
mephis1987I have been using PM8.003:56
AtlantisXeggie: How do you pronounce it there?03:56
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Razor-Xeggie: I'm learning your language :P03:56
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nueefhSollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE03:56
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poiuerhfSollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE03:56
eggiegood for you  pronounce what?03:56
nueefhSollog predicted: Version 2, June 199103:56
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lllsuehrfSollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE03:56
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muuuuwwncSollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE03:56
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mephis1987but PM only provides dual boot03:56
muuuuwwncSollog predicted: Version 2, June 199103:56
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nueefhSollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA03:57
robotgeek!ops03:57
lllluwuwucvSollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.03:57
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poiuerhfSollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.03:57
uuuenvbvbSollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.03:57
nueefhSollog predicted: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies03:57
mmmmmwerSollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.03:57
lllluwuwucvSollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA03:57
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lllsuehrfSollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc.03:57
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nueefhSollog predicted: of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.03:57
lllluwuwucvSollog predicted: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies03:57
lllsuehrfSollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA03:57
poiuerhfSollog predicted: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies03:57
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liloscuse me03:57
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lilohey nalioth03:57
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lilo(sorry about reaching in and grabbing)03:57
naliothHiddenFly: lilo03:57
naliothHiddenFly: lilo03:57
naliothbah03:57
christelhrm03:58
naliothnp lilo03:58
christelseems you two reacted quicker than i :)03:58
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UdontKnownalioth: can -m now I think03:58
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nueefhSollog predicted: rights.03:58
nueefhSollog predicted:03:58
alekzanyone has a ipod running with ubuntu ?03:58
bobx86k-lines are good.03:58
nueefhSollog predicted: We protect your rights with two steps: (1) copyright the software, and03:58
robotgeekughh03:58
nueefhSollog predicted: (2) offer you this license which gives you legal permission to copy,03:58
AtlantisXUbuntu seems to be wide-spread already...03:58
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nueefhSollog predicted: distribute and/or modify the software.03:58
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bobx86g-lines are fun.03:58
mephis1987any solution ?03:58
lilothere we go03:58
eggiei just want to know if i can hdparm my cd drive with a live cd?03:58
mephis1987pls03:58
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frogzoo:D03:58
Dido-My processor constantly uses 100% ... The problem is in firefox-bin, everything went normal when I stopped the proccess, any solutions?03:59
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bobx86get some operators :-)03:59
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Paradossosethk, are you still there?03:59
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lilowhat was that about, hmmm03:59
skiddlaptopwhat's going on?03:59
russell_need some help I have installed mplayer using easy breezy and when I go to open mplayer it does nothing.03:59
jackmacokcanyone ever try to setup CGI:IRC in ubuntu?03:59
eggiebah useless forum03:59
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AtlantisXDido-: Firefox has some leaks or something, same thing happens to me on Win Firefox sometimes.03:59
naliothlilo: i hope we won't have to go +m in here03:59
_jasonDido-, that happens to me if I run a lot of flash/java, was that true in your case as well?03:59
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lilonalioth: nah, shoudln't have to04:00
Dido-_jason, no, i had opened just 1 page04:00
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factotumwhat is +m?04:00
jackmacokcregistered mode04:00
_jasonDido-, strange, any extensions?04:00
linkdfactotum: moderated04:00
mephis1987can i run both linux and windows at the same time?04:00
AtlantisX_jason: Java here. Not with flash, though.04:00
factotumah04:00
linkdfactotum: means normal users cannot send to the channel04:00
mephis1987i mean dual run04:00
AcidicMephis1987, on seperate pc's i think :P04:00
frogzoomephis1987: -> vmware :D04:00
Kuyaedzmephis1987: no, not on the same PC04:00
Hobbseewouldnt that kinda defy the point of the channel?04:00
mephis1987uhm04:00
jackmacokcmephis1987: how many times are you going to ask04:00
mephis1987vmware is not free04:01
jackmacokcit is in linux04:01
Razor-Xmephis1987: you can try QEmu or Bochs, or the non-free VMWare solution04:01
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Dido-_jason, didn't understand you, but  i was reading only https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba04:01
mephis1987wow04:01
Razor-Xmephis1987: but they won't give you the True Experience04:01
Razor-X(TM)04:01
naliothlilo: christel: ty04:01
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mephis1987that s it04:01
lilomight have to +i off and on, and I guess you would want to forward to an alternate channel04:01
mephis1987thanks all04:02
mephis1987:D04:02
Razor-Xand they'll probably come with more problems than help04:02
AtlantisXAnyone here familiar with reactOS?04:02
russell_mplayer is installed but when I click to open mplayer nothing happens any suggestions?04:02
_jasonDido-, do you use any extensions for firefox?04:02
Razor-XAtlantisX: somewhat04:02
AcidicQuestion: I may not be looking in the right spot in the ubuntu documentation. But can anyone explain how to add resolutions to the system that i didnt during installation?04:02
AtlantisXRazor-X: Is it in a useful state already?04:02
Razor-Xrussell_: go into a terminal and type in ``mplayer foo'' where foo is the media file you want04:02
Razor-XAtlantisX: last time I checked (which wasn't too recently), no :(04:02
Dido-_jason, i don't know about extensions, so i guess not04:03
Mrow04:03
Dido-;)04:03
russell_thks will try that04:03
AtlantisXAcidic: I think you can run xconfig for that.04:03
_jasonDido-, can you repeat the experience or did it go away when you restarted firefox?04:03
Acidicill, give that a go04:03
intelikeyAcidic you can 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg '04:03
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Razor-XAtlantisX: my god, it's usable04:03
AtlantisXintelikey: Sounds better than my idea... xDD04:03
jackmacokcacidic, what intelikey said04:03
AtlantisXRazor-X: Hmm...04:04
Razor-XAtlantisX: wow... thanks for reminding me....04:04
Dido-_jason, the process is still stopped, i'll check again, but before that (i've rebooted several times) it was the same04:04
russell_nope not working. I really dont like Totem04:04
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AtlantisXRazor-X: Maybe the question was wrong since we are talking about a reimplementation of an OS which is unuseable itseld... xD04:04
AtlantisX*itself04:04
frogzoojackmacokc: u sure vmwares free for Linux? this says $189 -  http://www.vmware.com/request_processor?nextPage=/vmwarestore/newstore/category.jsp&action=CATALOG.GETGROUPS&application=store&ProductGroupCodes=EXT-STORE-WKST-WIN,EXT-STORE-WKST-LX04:04
Dido-_jason, yep, at the moment i start firefox it goes to 100% and it doesn't move04:04
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_jasonDido-, was this always the case or did it just start happening?04:05
sethkfrogzoo, it's free if you have a gun and a ski mask04:05
russell_well guess I will google some more04:05
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AtlantisXDido-: Sounds like an extension that eats your memory. Which autostarting extensions do you have?04:05
Dido-_jason, just started, don't know exactly when04:05
Razor-XAtlantisX: :P, even still, the images boggle my mind04:05
_jasonDido-, run 'firefox -safe-mode' and see if it still does it (close all firefox instances beforehand)04:05
intelikeysethk or live in middle east04:06
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frogzooseth_k: cool, Im in business :)04:06
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jackmacokcfrogzoo: as long as you use the vmware viewer it is04:06
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sethkseth_k must think I'm here to confuse people, only I registered this nick two years ago.  :)04:07
Acidicintelikey, it tells me that xserver.xorg is not installed04:07
intelikeymaybe -04:07
Razor-Xsethk: more than confusing, you're making me go the extra mile in tab-complete04:07
AtlantisXAcidic: o.O Then you use X11, I guess.04:07
Acidicgnome?04:07
Razor-Xsethk: you're making me type more, dern you04:07
intelikeyxserver-xorg ?04:07
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robotgeekany network gurus around?04:08
Acidicintelikey, that works04:08
MMMondRazor-X: mc is.. well, very novel, to say the least. Any more suggestions? :)04:08
intelikeyif i used ub or xorg i'd check it for you....oh  ok04:08
Razor-XMMMond: have you tried out twin?04:08
MMMondNope, what is it, if I may ask?04:08
Razor-XMMMond: it's a desktop environment for the CLI, using ncurses04:08
Paradossopostfix hangs while reading e-mail fetched by fetchmail: any hints?04:08
Razor-XMMMond: awesome stuff04:08
Dido-_jason, now it seems to be normal. it says: *** loading the extensions datasource so i guess use them04:08
MMMondGetting it right now then04:09
seth_ksethk, roger that ;) funny that we should both end up in #ubuntu, even04:09
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seth_ksethk, but I got seth@ubuntu.com, so I win :P04:09
_jasonDido-, ok start up firefox normally and go to tools -> extensions, let me know what is there04:09
intelikeytwin  hmmmm.04:09
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robotgeekseth_k & sethk this is the first time i've seen you both04:09
Dido-_jason, umm actually i think all started when i installed some "plugin" for playing videos online but im not sure04:10
seth_krobotgeek, I notice us in here together a lot, mostly b/c people ping me instead of him :D04:10
Razor-Xseth_k and sethk back to back!04:10
seth_krobotgeek, good thing I do most of my support in #kubuntu04:10
sethkmy Marvell gigabit card hangs periodically with 2.6.1204:10
_jasonDido-, quite possibly, what plugin is this?04:10
robotgeekseth_k: lol04:10
frogzoojackmacokc: ah - the "vmware player" - i c, thx04:10
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Dido-_jason, yep that mediaplayer connectivity is there04:10
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Padrehow do i get boinc to run as a daemon process?04:10
jackmacokcfrogzoo: no prob..lemme know if you need any help..i've got it setup on this box04:10
Acidicintelikey, thanks for the help :)04:10
sethkI think I was almost 20 before I met someone with the same first name.  But that was a _long_ time ago.  It's getting common these days.  :)04:10
robotgeekI have 2 machines connecting to the internet through a wireless router. One is connected through the ethernet cable, and the other using a wireless card. i ran a traceroute, and the computer with the wireless interface is lossing connection somewhere outside my router. i have no clue why this is happening. anyone?04:10
intelikeynp04:10
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AtlantisXMe wants to get rid of Windows on me comp. >-<04:11
_jasonDido-, ok well you can remove it and see if it was causing the problems (you can always put it back later if it turns out it wasnt)04:11
seth_ksethk, yup, my mum named me b/c it was a rare name back in the day04:11
MMMondok, not having the best of things: "twin: ALL DISPLAY DRIVERS FAILED. QUITTING."04:11
Acidicintelikey, another problem has arisen, I added 1280x1024 to the resolution table, and now 1024x768 is still the highest available... Do i need a system restart?04:11
GoldfishI want to configure my wireless laptop with two profiles: one being to connect to my home wireless LAN, the other to switch to connecting to any open AP. Any links to ubuntu forums detailing this?04:11
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AtlantisXAcidic: Probably have to restart the x server.04:12
jackmacokcacidic, yes, you do have to restart04:12
aramhi people04:12
Acidicalright04:12
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intelikeyAtlantisX to rid your slef of the M$ problem, 'sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '  and go to work  :)04:12
jackmacokcit has to reload certain modules to update that info04:12
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AtlantisXintelikey: That would require me install some *nix first, which I am trying right now. xD04:13
arami wanted to ask you,if anybody know a prog lik DC++ doing the same job04:13
intelikeyAcidic x restart.    ctrl+alt+backspace.04:13
jackmacokcintelikly, acidic -x restart is not enough04:13
AtlantisXaram: There is a linux version of DC++ but it was hard to get. >_>04:13
intelikeyan AtlantisX just use the partitioner in the ub install    (assumes ubuntu)04:14
jackmacokcor so i read04:14
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dave_everyonewhohelped, thanks04:14
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aramhm....04:14
aramhard to get???04:14
sethkdamn, the kernel bz2 from kernel.org is up to 37 meg04:14
intelikeyjackmacokc what you talking about ?04:14
Razor-Xaram: there are other clients, though04:14
aramlike?04:15
AtlantisXintelikey: =_= Gotta get to that point first which is fucking complicated w/o any drives. xDD04:15
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Razor-Xaram: just run a package search in apt/aptitude/synaptic for dc04:15
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jackmacokcintelikey: acidic's resolution problem with xserver?04:15
intelikeyah AtlantisX i see.04:15
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AtlantisXRazor-X: I had to alien it. But that was couple of months before.04:15
Dido-_jason, yeh it's ok now, thank you very much, i was near to be disapointed from ubuntu actually lol04:15
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intelikeyjackmacokc sense when is restarting the xserver not enough to read in new rez ?04:16
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_jasonDido-, that's strange, I haven't used that extension but I've seen a lot of people recommend it.  What version of firefox are you using?  and did you install it form the mozilla site or somewhere else04:16
jackmacokcintelikey, i've never seen it work04:16
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aramok thanks ....04:16
intelikeyjackmacokc he's not implimenting new drivers.04:16
Dido-_jason, 1.0.7, it's included in ubuntu04:17
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jackmacokcintelikey: i read that doesn't matter..but i could've been misinformed.04:17
intelikeywell i confess xorg iliteracy, and concent to jackmacokc's supremicy.04:17
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jackmacokclol, i know nothing :)04:17
_jasonDido-, well for viewing media in firefox you can try mplayerplug-in.  Works well for me04:17
B1zzsweet!04:18
B1zzit works!04:18
jackmacokcjust trying to regergitate what i've read04:18
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_jasonDido-, I assu,e the totem plug-in wasn't doing it for you?04:18
Karling76anybody here tried installing asterisk04:18
Karling76using ubuntu04:18
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Karling76i need some help04:18
intelikeyi only know i see a lot  (A FREAKING LOT) of un-nessary reboots in here.   linux is not 'micro-reboot'  :)04:19
AtlantisXHmmm.... Okay.... question for the real geeks here... Does anyone know the neomagic ZX card? If so, does it support GL under Ubuntu? xD04:19
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Dido-_jason, actually i dont need viewing media.. just once, never needed to before04:19
_jasonDido-, ok, enjoy ubuntu then :)04:19
Razor-XAtlantisX: google it up :P04:19
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GoldfishAny of you have runtime experience with network-manager?04:19
alekzanyone has a ipod running with ubuntu ?04:19
Karling76hello04:19
AtlantisXRazor-X: Later... xD Just wanted to see if the close range sources may know it... xD04:19
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Razor-XKarling76: Asterisk.... never attempted it, felt too much a hastle, sorry04:20
Karling76hi alekz.. my ipod is working properly with ubuntu04:20
alekzKarling76, wich gen is ur ipod ?04:20
Dido-_jason, thank you ;) still configurating it but enjoying for sure, i'm about to forget windows04:20
Dido-;] 04:20
Karling764th gen 20G04:20
GoldfishOne person in mlinux.org (Melbourne Linux Users Group) has demonstrated asterisk, and has an IP phone. Kind of neat.04:20
_jasonDido-, windows, what's that? ;)04:20
AtlantisXDido-: Windows will soon have less functions than Linux, especially with wine... *-*04:21
Dido-can't tell exactly.. some call it os04:21
alekzKarling76,  u just use it on linux or first time on windows/mac ?04:21
Dido-;)004:21
KyralWindows has no use to me! Give yourself over to GNU!04:21
Dido-AtlantisX, i think it already has less functions then linux04:21
mrkoje_jason,  Asterisk is awsome!04:21
sophie_AtlantisX: I dont think we need wine to get a fully functional linux distro04:21
mrkoje_jason,  I have been using it for 3 months now.04:22
Razor-XMMMond: perchance, would you like to browse images?04:22
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Karling76actually i tried it on all of the 304:22
AtlantisXWhat I would like to see now is a Kwine or something that clings to the KDE interface, so you can seemlessly open win files from the KDE.04:22
GoldfishI played enough with wine. Used it to keep Quicken running. Then they announced no more support for that version, so I moved to moneydance. Works great.04:22
_jasonmrkoje, ok, you can tell me about it in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like04:22
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mrkoje_jason,  sorry.... wrong person.. I was after Goldfish04:22
alekzKarling76, look i have a 5th gen ipod i've just bought it 2 hours ago, i cant add files using gtkpod should i use it first on win/mac ?04:22
_jasonmrkoje, lol i figured as much :)04:23
Dido-I managed to install wine today, but it doesn't seems to do good... but i didn't test it well already04:23
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_linuxn00bhey everyone04:23
Goldfishmrkoje: Ehh? Come again.04:23
Karling76alekz, i think it's safer to use it first using the bundled softwares in windows or mac04:23
AtlantisXDido-: The standard wine that comes with the distro or a fresh build?04:24
alekzKarling76, i tought that :P i'll try that and then on linux again04:24
Paradossohi everybody04:24
_linuxn00bi was hoping someone could help me fix my mbr so that i can re-install xp04:24
mrkojeGoldfish,  talking about Asterisk04:24
_linuxn00bgrub seems to have screwed me over04:24
mrkojeGoldfish,  its cool.... use it everyday04:24
Karling76ok alekz... goodluck04:24
Karling76nice gadget you got there04:24
Paradossomy porblem is: when I retrieve mail using fetchmail + postfix, it hangs just after the MAIL FROM line04:24
alekzthanks :)04:24
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ParadossoI really cant' figure why04:24
Paradossoany hints, please?04:25
Dido-AtlantisX, i didn't got it included in ubuntu, "fresh" install with much much struggling04:25
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AtlantisXDido-: No apt-get --build wine or whatever it was?04:25
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AtlantisXDido-: On my other comp I just added some repos, then compiled my own wine... Hrhr... deadly mix... xD04:26
_linuxn00bcan someone help me with a boot problem? ;)04:26
Toma-_linuxn00b: you want the windows xp boot loader?04:26
_linuxn00bcan i pm you toma?04:26
Toma-no04:26
_linuxn00bok04:26
AtlantisXlol04:26
intelikey_linuxn00b describe your problem and the desired end and we can help.04:27
Dido-AtlantisX, when i start winetools it says i'm using other version of wine so im using it on my own04:27
Dido-may be there's the prob04:27
AtlantisXPMing with problems is inefficient... o.O04:27
Toma-and annoying04:27
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cameronis anyone in here a kernel compiling pro?04:27
_linuxn00bi had ubuntu installed as dual boot but i need software that only xp can run (easily) so unfortunately i need to move back to xp04:27
Toma-cameron: i know enough..04:27
AtlantisXDido-: I'd config it by hand, may take longer but also makes it faster.04:27
Goldfishmrkoje: You reading me? I was just installing network-manager and got bumped off the internet in the process.04:27
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_linuxn00bwhen i try to install xp it won't boot into the second part of the xp installation04:28
Toma-_linuxn00b: cant you boot winxp thru grub?04:28
Dido-AtlantisX, could I use your version?04:28
_linuxn00bno... it says error loading operating system04:28
cameronToma-: i have a pentium D which i want to compile a kernel for, it is EMT6404:28
_linuxn00bi tried fixmbr fixboot etc... and nothing04:28
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AtlantisXDido-: Lost it, sorry... But since I will have to redo it anyway, I'll send it to you then.04:28
cameronToma-:  should i compile amd64-generic?04:28
Toma-hmmmmmmmm04:28
cameronToma-:  the installer picked amd64-xeon for me04:28
tritiumcameron, I wouldn't bother to compile a custom kernel04:28
Toma-there was a thread on emt64 on the ubuntu site04:28
_linuxn00bi can get into the xp setup but when it reboots to complete the setup it just starts over... if that makes sense04:29
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cameronToma-:  i just searched and couldnt find anything04:29
cameronbut ill look again04:29
Goldfishmrkkoje: They used asterisk to setup a service after hurricane Katrina. You dialed into a 1-800 number, entered someone's phone number, and you could leave a message or play one. It helped people contact relatives.04:29
Toma-_linuxn00b: so.. you install it, then you try running the 2nd part from the harddrive?04:29
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Dido-AtlantisX, right thanks ;]  any advices to install a good (tested) version before that04:30
jackmacokcanybody know where i can find the cgi-bin directory?04:30
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_linuxn00byeah but all i get is "press any key to load from cd..." and if don't press a key it says 'error loading operating system' if i do press a key it goes through the first part of the setup again04:30
mrkojeGoldfish,  oh thats cool... good use of the technology04:30
Toma-cameron: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84747.html04:30
Viking667got a really quick cloop question. What -t do I need for mount to mount an Ubuntu's filesystem.cloop? I've already got the cloop module loaded, all I need is what to tell "mount"04:30
intelikey_linuxn00b you trying to get away from linux altogather ?    or just trying to duel boot linux/winxp ?04:30
Goldfishmrkoje: I always like seeing Linux being used in the real world. Tells you it is more than a "geek fad" but instead reality.04:30
Toma-_linuxn00b: and the "error laoding operating system" is coming after grub?04:30
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_linuxn00bToma-: i beleive so... although it's not really saying anything about grub anymore04:31
cameronToma-:  i was hopinh to run an EMT64-SMP kernel but the one in the repo is out of date04:31
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_linuxn00bintelikey: yes i am trying to go back to xp entirely04:31
AtlantisXDido-: Not sure but...04:31
mrkojeGoldfish,  true04:31
AtlantisXDido-: You can always compile one yourself.04:31
aparrahi04:31
siriusnovahey anyone here use audacity?04:31
_linuxn00balthough i wouldnt mind a dualboot i can't get a single boot figured out so i thought i'd better keep it simple04:31
Dido-AtlantisX, lol no i can't ;))04:31
Toma-siriusnova: i do04:31
aparrawho know how see the proyects in a cvs server?04:32
AtlantisXDido-: apt-get build wine should do04:32
AtlantisXDido-: Or just do sudo apt-get upgrade, that may help as well.04:32
siriusnovaToma - stupid question, but when you have a sound file loaded, how do you jump do a spot within the sound file?04:32
GoldfishI just installed network-manager, and launched it by typing sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &. How can I get my system to run this everything I login? I was GNOME/ubuntu had something slicker than editing a .login file.04:32
siriusnovalike say I want to use my mouse to jump to 5 seconds04:32
siriusnovaafter the song starts04:33
GoldfishErr...run this thing.04:33
_linuxn00bok... without a disk in the drive i all i get is "error loading operating system" nothing else04:33
intelikey_linuxn00b duel boot might be easier for you.    grub should be able to chainload  xp  but Toma-  may have a link for you or something.04:33
aparrawho know how see the proyects in a cvs server? ?04:33
Dido-AtlantisX, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded" on apt-get upgrade ;[04:33
AtlantisXMy PC has a dir named minidump... o.O I just hope this means a memory dump, not that my comp shit itself... >_>04:33
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AtlantisXDido-: And sudo apt-get update?04:34
bimberiGoldfish: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, Startup Programs tab04:34
Toma-siriusnova: Edit > Snap-to > On, then click on 5 sec mark04:34
_linuxn00bintelikey: thanks. ;)  i wish i had left it as dualboot, that's when my problems started happening...04:34
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Toma-_linuxn00b: you should have asked when you tried dual booting04:34
Toma-you might need a chainloader04:34
siriusnovaToma- got it thanks :), i was trying to click on the graph04:34
Dido-AtlantisX, :)Fetched 39.6kB in 8s (4871B/s)04:34
Razor-XGRUB has to use a chainloader04:35
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_linuxn00bToma-: yeah... i'm an idiot... :(  all i want is my computer back!!! any suggestions on what to do from here?04:35
siriusnovaaudacity is really cool04:35
Razor-Xto boot Windows partitions, anyways04:35
siriusnovai must say04:35
intelikey_linuxn00b there is a wiki about howto setup duel winxp/ubuntu boot04:35
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Goldfishbimberi: Got it. Okay, I had to run that with & (in background). Do I need to include that with the command here?04:35
siriusnovaany other cool apps I dont know about?04:35
jackmacokcanybody ever install cgi:irc?04:35
Dido-AtlantisX, two wine packs, i'll try it now ;)04:35
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Toma-siriusnova: it really is. :) its even pretty good on windows :O04:35
_linuxn00bok... i'm going to go read the wiki04:35
aparrawho know how see the proyects in a cvs server?04:35
AtlantisXDido-: Hope they are better... xD04:35
Toma-siriusnova: hydrogen!04:35
bimberiGoldfish: not sure, i'd add the &04:35
Jairunwhat is the command to set the CC environment varible?04:35
siriusnovawhat is hydrogen?04:35
_linuxn00blast question... can i install ubuntu before xp?04:35
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_linuxn00band still have a dual boot?04:36
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Razor-Xsiriusnova: why, the best app in the world has to be cowsay04:36
siriusnovaRazor-X - good god I hate cowsay04:36
JairunLinuxn00b yes, but I've found it easier to install XP first04:36
siriusnova:P04:36
GoldfishI'll be back. Gonna log out and back in to test this.04:36
intelikey_linuxn00b yes  but you need to go to ubuntu.com and search the wiki for the howto04:36
Toma-_linuxn00b: its pretty tricky. you need to use the windows boot laoder or use the ubuntu disk rescue mode04:36
Razor-Xsiriusnova: what?!04:36
siriusnovatoo many apps, we need a coolubuntuapps.com or something04:36
frogzoo_linuxn00b: xp will clobber your MBR - you will need to reinstall grub afterwards04:36
siriusnovaTrying to find a cool app in synaptic is painful04:36
AtlantisXsiriusnova: Just make one... ;p04:37
Toma-siriusnova: its a drum loop creator04:37
siriusnovai should04:37
Viking667siriusnova: I have no problem.04:37
Toma-siriusnova: what kinda app u after?04:37
siriusnovai should start up a CoolUbuntuApps.com04:37
frogzoosiriusnova: either browse categories or search04:37
_linuxn00bfrogzoo: how do i install xp??? it won't complete the the install when i try to do it...04:37
JairunCan someone tell me the command to set the CC variable, I need to compile new video drivers, but the default compiler is 4.0, I'm needing 3.404:37
siriusnovawith interesting apps and reviews and a rating system04:37
siriusnovascreenshots too04:37
AtlantisXsiriusnova: If you do, it will certainly be integrated in the community...04:37
_linuxn00bhaha i'm sooo frustrated!!!04:37
siriusnovahmmm04:37
Toma-siriusnova: like icewalkers?04:37
siriusnovawhat is icewalkers?04:37
frogzoosiriusnova: b sure 2 include nethack-qt04:38
siriusnovai was thinking more along the lines of kde-apps.org04:38
Toma-google.04:38
bimberiGoldfish: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager  no & required :)04:38
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frogzoosiriusnova: do it as a wiki - mebbe plone?04:38
=== intelikey finds it easiest to use multipul disks hda hdc ..... no trubble at all to do it that way.
siriusnovafrogzoo - yeah04:38
siriusnovatoo much work though :p04:38
AtlantisXfrogzoo: You mean nethack-qt as in apt-get nethack-qt? -.-04:38
frogzooAtlantisX: u got it :)04:38
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AtlantisXfrogzoo: Just think the packets that are already registered don't have to be on a special site.04:39
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Toma-_linuxn00b: can i ask what app you need to run for all this trouble?04:39
Razor-Xsiriusnova: how about.... emacs? :P04:39
GoldfishIt works. Network Manager is pretty cool. I will have to take a little road trip sometime to Pinera to test this further.04:39
siriusnovai hate emacs with a passion04:39
_linuxn00bmy windows versions of the macromedia suite and photoshop04:39
siriusnovalol04:39
Dido-AtlantisX, ba:( the same, take look on what i mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i568604:39
siriusnovaemacs is more like its own operating system04:40
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frogzooAtlantisX: I have no trubs with the repo setup - but there needs to be a better way to browse the available pkgs for whats available04:40
_linuxn00band i had a lot of trouble getting apps to work in ubuntu in general04:40
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Toma-_linuxn00b: have you tried installing windows completely over everything else?04:40
Razor-Xsiriusnova: well, if an OS can fit in a filesize smaller than the average terminal emulator and remain flexible and customizable... hell, I'm sold :)04:40
AtlantisXfrogzoo: I'm fine with synaptic. o.O04:41
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frogzoo_linuxn00b: depends which apps - the core apps are pretty straight forward - but theres the learning curve of a new OS to consider04:41
Razor-Xsiriusnova: and is overall functional04:41
siriusnovaheh04:41
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_linuxn00byeah... i have deleted all my partitions, and re-formatted them all and then tried a fresh xp install... and nothing.04:41
Toma-frogzoo: you know synaptic can be browsed by category right?04:41
frogzooAtlantisX: synaptic doesnt give you screenshots04:41
tgahey.. my Gnome suddenly won't start, even in Failsafe mode.. what should I look at?04:41
_linuxn00byeah... that's where i got stuck04:41
Toma-_linuxn00b: then its not a linux/grub problem...04:41
_linuxn00bToma-: what could it be?04:42
tga..for any user04:42
Toma-if the windows install is saying it cant find itself, then its either a faulty install or faulty install cd :(04:42
tgaor a faulty operating system04:42
AtlantisXsiriusnova: I think under linux it would be appropriate to have those "you might also like" links... KDE, you might also like GNOME, iceWM etc... Get what I mean?04:42
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_linuxn00bhmmm04:42
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_linuxn00bok... i'm going to install ubuntu again as the primary os04:42
Razor-XAtlantisX: ... I wonder what'ld happen to ratpoison04:42
frogzooAtlantisX: like sourceforge does04:42
Razor-Xmaybe it'ld be listed under screen04:43
Toma-_linuxn00b: have you heard of crossover office?04:43
GoldfishThis is fun. I really GNOME. I have been using KDE on my two other Debian machines, but the windows management on GNOME is cool.04:43
_linuxn00bthen i'll ask questions on how to get programs to work instead of how to get xp to work. ;)04:43
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_linuxn00byeah04:43
martinwhere do I need to go to get help for codec on 64 system?04:43
AtlantisXRazor-X: Hm? Ratpoison? The poor rats. T_T04:43
_linuxn00bi'm trying not to buy anymore software... thats why i wanted to switch to linux. ;)04:43
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_linuxn00bbut i thought wine would be enough... only i couldn't get it to install. ;)04:43
Toma-ahh i see :)04:43
_linuxn00b<--n00b04:43
_linuxn00b;)04:43
MMMondAny idea what "twin: ALL DISPLAY DRIVERS FAILED. QUITTING" might mean? I don't really understand.. drivers?04:43
AtlantisXmartin: Kaffeine gives good instructions for getting codecs.04:43
martinthank you04:44
_linuxn00bwell, thank you guys for all your help!04:44
Toma-_linuxn00b: have you tried gimp? instead of photoshop... its not quite the same but its pretty powerful still04:44
_linuxn00bwhat a great community!04:44
intelikey_linuxn00b you could boot the live ub-cd and do a 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=20 bs=512        that will blank the mbr and partition tables  then try installing xp afresh.04:44
frogzoo_linuxn00b: sudo apt-get install wine & youe done? running apps under wine though, can be troublesome04:44
Goldfishlinuxn00b: It has been my experiment that leaving Windows requires a little dose of reality. You have to start learning stuff for yourself, not being dependent on M$ "helping you" anymore. But with that comes some remarkable feeling of liberation. My $0.02.04:44
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Goldfishs/experiment/experience04:44
steven__hello everyone....  Does anyone have experience trying to setup jboss??04:45
_linuxn00bgoldfish: i agree... i just don't know if i have the patience and the time to for the learning curve. ;)04:45
martinkaffeine is for kde?04:45
martinand not a codec but  a player04:45
AtlantisXGoldfish: Maybe, but the atmosphere here is way better than in MS support areas. You actually have fun hanging around here.04:45
_linuxn00bintelikey: thanks! let me try that!04:45
intelikey_linuxn00b my sujestion ^ assumes loosing all data on hda is acceptable.04:45
techrushMS support areas ???04:45
frogzooubotu > dancing paperclip04:45
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techrushi never knew such a thing existed :)04:45
Dido-AtlantisX, is it possible wine to change to xp appereance or only 9804:46
AtlantisXtechrush: They do, it's where all your personal info goes when you're not looking. xD04:46
techrushlol04:46
_linuxn00bintelikey: i lost it long ago (i've probably reformatted my drives 5 times by now) ;)04:46
Goldfishlinuxn00b: That is why I kept dual boot on my machine for so long, and also was tinkering with wine. My finally task will be to use turbotax.com this year, so that I don't need to buy a windows-based tax software package.04:46
_linuxn00bhaha04:46
intelikey_linuxn00b k  that's worth a try then.04:46
AtlantisXDido-: Not directly, but you can change appearance to WM skin and then set your WM skin to wimp.04:46
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Should that prove successful, I will have eliminated the last reason to keep my dual boot partition around, and time to free up some wanting disk space.04:46
_linuxn00bintelikey: i'm doing it now...04:46
vladuz976why does ubuntu come with gnome? many ppl don't wnat something that heavy04:47
_linuxn00bGoldfish: awesome!  good luck with that!04:47
alekzvladuz976, that's why kubuntu was realeased04:47
_linuxn00bGoldfish: someday i'll be able to do that...04:47
siriusnovaheavy?04:47
martinanyone able to play avi files on ubuntu 64 version?04:47
vladuz976alekz: kubuntu is the same, too much04:47
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martinreally would like some help on this :(04:47
siriusnovaLOL im running Ubuntu on a 400mhz PII dont tell me about heavy :P04:47
alekzvladuz976, xubuntu will be released :)04:47
vladuz976alekz: what's that/04:48
vladuz976?04:48
siriusnovaits actually a lot faster then other distros04:48
techrushyes it is04:48
intelikeymartin i just wish i could afford a k704:48
GoldfishMy experience has been that KNOPPIX live CD on this laptop was much lighter weight than ubuntu breezy live CD. Can that be laid at the feet of GNOME? I like to keep KNOPPIX around as a rescue CD.04:48
siriusnovatry running SUSE or Mandrake on the same laptop04:48
AtlantisXI have a temp dir of 0bytes... on windows... isn't that suspicious? I bet it's scheming something.04:48
_linuxn00bbrb... i'm going to try the live cd idea04:48
martinintelikey lol :)04:48
Goldfishsiriusnova: My laptop is 433 celeryonion processor. I know what you mean.04:48
alekzvladuz976, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu04:48
teenbothey can i download like msn messenger on here like onto the program for the time being ?04:48
martinwhats the use if you can't get anything to work on it... :)04:48
Dido-AtlantisX, humm.. sounds hard to me ;0 i guess i'll just wait you to make your new version04:49
Dido-;)04:49
Toma-teenbot: you want an msn client?04:49
siriusnovaactually Ubuntu on my laptop isnt that bad, its a bit slow when you start opening up multiple firefoxes buts definetly not so slow that it becomes a pain04:49
GoldfishFace it...he want's the butterfly!04:49
AtlantisXsiriusnova: I use kubuntu with iceWM, works well even on lowmem PCs.04:49
martinnew to linux... but this is driving me nuts :) you can't play 32bit codec on 64bit system I read, and there are no 64bit codec - then what hell do you do :)04:49
teenbotyeah i was just wondering if there was anyway to download msn messenger and then so i can use it04:49
siriusnovacool AtlantisX - im happy with Ubuntu :)04:49
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DRAGON_Ultralol goldfish04:49
intelikeysiriusnova i totally disagree with the 'faster than' statement.   it is all in the setup.04:50
Dr_Willismartin,  wonder how windows does it.. and why we need soo many closed-source codecs...04:50
Goldfishmartin: You may have to run a 32-boot chroot. chroot is where you convert some subdirectory into the root directory.04:50
jackmacokcanybody ever install cgi-irc?04:50
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teenbotwhats that04:50
_linuxn00bintelikey: all i got was 'dd: opening 'dev/hda': No such file or directory'04:50
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AtlantisXsiriusnova: Both gnome and kde take about 30 seconds to start up and swap all the time on my pc... While iceWM doesn't even have perceivable loading time and is hell fast.04:50
Hobbseeteenbot: try amsn or gaim04:51
martingoldfish hmm.... guessing you don't have such a system...04:51
Toma-teenbot: not really. there are alternatives, like gaim and kopete, i prefer amsn tho :)04:51
GoldfishThe 64-bit architectures are really exposing what is open source and what has bits of closed stuff in them. The open source stuff is the stuff that was relatively easy to migrate.04:51
Dido-AtlantisX, can i set some different icon on all exes by default, not one by one?04:51
techrushinteresting04:51
intelikey_linuxn00b look for /dev/ide/*   it maybe long addressed.04:51
Goldfishmartin: My mythtv box is AMD64, and I have debian 64 on it. However, I don't use to go for flashplayer type stuff. It was useless for about 4-months due to a 64-bit glibc error.04:51
siriusnovaAtlantis it helps if you have more then 128mb of ram, i have 300mb on this laptop so its not bad04:51
AtlantisXDido-: No idea, sry. >_>04:51
intelikey_linuxn00b or even /.dev/hda04:51
_linuxn00b<---super linux n00b04:51
teenbothey toma is there anyway you can pm me really quick or does this program do that?04:51
siriusnovaAtlantisX - well yeah icewm is pretty fast but i like Gnome :D04:52
_linuxn00bintelikey: how do i look for it?04:52
AtlantisXsiriusnova: Just you wait, rich boy... xD04:52
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techrushgnome on ubuntu is much faster then KDE on mandrake04:52
vladuz976alekz: yeah that sounds much better, only thing, they should also take gdm out04:52
intelikeyls /.dev<tabkey>04:52
Toma-teenbot: i dont like private messages04:52
Toma-makes me nervous04:52
teenbotoo ok04:52
alekzvladuz976, tell them xD04:52
AtlantisX*will get his new comp in a few days* xD04:52
Goldfishsiriusnova: This thing suffered when it was 128M. I ordered 512M to ugprade it to the max. Certainly helps out a lot. Now I have ripped CD playing the background as I yak on this IRC channel via wireless.04:52
siriusnovai need a new laptop, they are cheap but im poor :P04:52
vladuz976alekz: wehre?04:52
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alekzvladuz976, dunno :P04:52
intelikey_linuxn00b tab-completion works wonders.04:52
siriusnovayeah 128mb is pretty barebones considering X takes up what like 64mb ?04:52
martingoldfish so you can play movies etc.?04:53
intelikeysiriusnova are you smoking crack ?04:53
teenbotbut like i just wanna run msn messenger while im running this program04:53
Viking667I love tab-completion. I miss it every time I have to go back to Windows04:53
martingoldfish sorry if I sound a little retarded :) but this is all new to me :P04:53
intelikeyi run x on 64m with no swap all the time.04:53
B1zzyou can try gaim04:53
siriusnovai can play movies on my 400mhz PII, high rez xvids in VLC run fine04:53
siriusnovawell i meant gnome + x04:53
alekzViking667, i think IE 7 has tabs :P04:53
siriusnova:P04:53
intelikeykde   :)04:53
Viking667alekz: so I hear.04:53
_linuxn00bintelikey: no go... i'm not sure what i'm doing. ;)04:54
Goldfishmartin: I don't actually have a DVD/CD player on that machine. It records TV shows. It is pretty good at converting the stuff to MPEG4 on the CPU.04:54
_linuxn00bi'm going to go back and read up on it04:54
AtlantisXmartin: Don't worry, microsoft wants everyone to think Linux is still all text'n'type.04:54
Viking667I'm not bothered though, firefox is better.04:54
_linuxn00bthanks for all the help guys. ;)04:54
intelikeyk04:54
Toma-teenbot: download amsn and install it. then u can do whatever u want04:54
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_linuxn00bi'll stop wasting your guys' time. ;)04:54
intelikeygood luck with it _linuxn00b04:54
alekzViking667, yeap have u tried firefox 1.5 ?04:54
Toma-never a waste of time _linuxn00b04:54
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doofy`when i insert a DVD movie, it mounts, but there seems to be no content on it (at least from what nautilus shows)... it brings up the burn CD window04:54
_linuxn00bthank you all!  especially Toma-, intlikey and Goldfish! take care!04:54
reihelp! i am new with this linux...and ubuntu...04:54
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Goldfishmartin: I'll admit I'm bragging a little. Check it out---> http://www.mindspring.com/~gregturn/right_turn/id9.html04:55
alekzrei, ask pls04:55
siriusnovaAtlantisX - im actually a FreeBSD guy so I know my unix, but Ubuntu i really really nice, setting it up was simple and everything is well thought out, GUI tools are sane and well planned.04:55
AtlantisXdoofy`: Totem? Or wine WMP. xDD04:55
reihow can i install mplayer?04:55
teenbottama:  but will it erase off of my computer when i take out this linux program ?04:55
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siriusnovaits not like Mandrake where every GUI tool looks different04:55
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siriusnovaSUSE + Ubuntu are the best distros when it comes to Usability IMHO04:55
alekzrei, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer04:55
Toma-teenbot: no04:55
doofy`well, AtlantisX it doesn't really matter what. browsing it with nautilus displays no content also04:56
AtlantisXsiriusnova: Yeh, thought the same. I was redhat fan before, but now I <3 Ubuntu xD04:56
siriusnovaUbuntu is "macos x ish :D)04:56
DRAGON_Ultrasuse was good untill I found this ubuntu04:56
teenbotyeah well i already have it downloaded on my windows though04:56
reialekz, where do i type that?04:56
alekzrei, on a terminal04:56
Goldfishmartin: I have tried playing DVDs on this laptop, mainly because this is my first DVD drive. Could have used a little more horsepower. Turned on DMA, and it was able to play okay. Stuttered occasionally.04:56
concept10Anyone using Firefox 1.5 have a bug that causes 100% CPU usage when trying to save a picture using the right click menu?04:56
_jasonrei, are you looking for mplayer or mplayerplug-in with mplayer?04:56
AtlantisXsiriusnova: The MacosX feel comes from gnomes taskbar... xDD04:56
techrushand the use of sudo04:56
reii think its an mplayer only...04:56
_jasonrei, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto04:56
techrushos x uses sudo in a similar way04:56
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reii just downloaded it...and some plug ins i think04:57
Goldfish!wiki MPlayerInstallHowto04:57
siriusnovaAtlantisX - true, Gnome is turning into Mac OS X lite lol04:57
tgahey.. my Gnome suddenly won't start, even in Failsafe mode.. what should I look at?04:57
martingoldfish looks awesome :)04:57
GoldfishWhere is ubotu!04:57
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AtlantisXI find sudo a reasonable thing, you can't accidentally do a root-and-HD-goes-bang command.04:57
Toma-:(04:57
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techrushit took me a day or 2 to get used to it04:57
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techrushbut now im fine with it04:58
siriusnovasudo is a good idea, running as root is a BAD idea04:58
xkahnwhat source for apt holds all the java packages for ubuntu again?04:58
AtlantisXNot like could happen to you before... "rm -rf /" Oh shit, I though I was still logged on as normal user and wanted to joke around... xD04:58
siriusnovaMacOS X has a similar set up04:58
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reialekz, it says it couldnt find the package mozilla-mplayer04:58
teenbotwould i be able to leave this running all night like i would windows?04:59
AtlantisXrei: mozdev.org was the site, I think.04:59
intelikeysudo is super-user do (run as root)  btw04:59
drewanyone have experience with twinview?04:59
GoldfishI admit I was apprehensive when I heard sudo was ubuntu's default setup. But I have gotten used to it, and like having the auth.log audit trail. Makes command distinctly feel user or admin oriented.04:59
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vr^238is it safe to remove xterm if i'm not using it?04:59
tritiumdrew, yes04:59
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tritiumdrew, did you read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README ?04:59
techrushvr^238 i wouldnt04:59
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vr^238techrush: why not05:00
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doofy`AtlantisX, any ideas?05:00
vladuz976does anybody know what the font is called that is used on checks on the bottom, it's sort of a monospace to not confuse numbers, i want that font for my terminal05:00
drewyes i have05:00
JairunCalothwhat is the name of the X configuration tool?05:00
AtlantisXintelikey: Yeh... Didn't understand the word the first few days, just used it... Then it came to me... "su... do..." As SU do! Aha! xD05:00
Sneaky_BastardMICR05:00
techrushwell for one thing why would you want to remove it ?05:00
techrushits not large05:00
Sneaky_BastardMagnetic Ink Character Recognition font05:00
techrushfor another thing i just easily recovered my install that i broke with it05:00
drew..and looked through many articles05:00
GoldfishUnfortunately this laptop doesn't have an nvidia card. Instead it has ATI Rage mobility. I can use every piece of hardware acceleration possible to squeeze the limits out of this old laptop.05:00
techrushso id keep it around05:00
vr^238techrush: i installed aterm, and i also use gnome-terminal05:00
vr^238techrush: alright, thanks05:00
Sneaky_Bastardladuz: that is not just a font05:00
AtlantisXdoofy`: Sry, what was your last line? Can't find it. xD05:01
drewmy second monitor stays scrambled05:01
Sneaky_Bastardit's a specification05:01
teenbot(im kinda new at this) i was wondering like what exactly the terminal is ? i cant seem to figuere it out05:01
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doofy`AtlantisX, when I explore the dvd with nautilus it doesn't even show any content05:01
Sneaky_Bastardteenbot: are you using GUI ?05:01
AtlantisXHrhr, okay, let the everlasting discussion begin: What is your favorite terminal?05:01
techrushvr^238 the GDM login option "terminal mode" or some such launches x-term and you never know yu just may need that mode sometime.....i know i just did and it saved my @$$05:01
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Goldfishterminal is an application that mimics what were once dumb terminals hooked up to servers, offering only command line interfaces.05:01
Sneaky_Bastardxterm is a program that pretends to be an old dumb serial terminal05:01
techrushaterm!!!!!!!!05:01
teenbotim using ubuntu linux05:01
AtlantisXdoofy`: Not sure, maybe you really didn't burn it right?05:02
vr^238techrush: good to know, thanks :)05:02
Sneaky_Bastardand then you can type commands in with it05:02
Goldfishteenbot: You don't say!05:02
MrDeldoofy what are you using to burn your dvd?05:02
AtlantisXAnd when we are done with that... What is your favorite editor/word processor? xD05:02
doofy`its not burned, theyre commercial05:02
drewcan anyone help with my twinview woes?05:02
teenbotwhy is that goldfish lol05:02
intelikeyhehhe i always uninstall base-system and other meda-packages that get in the way of my freely adminning my system.... but that is not a sujestion to the newbee05:02
AtlantisXdoofy`: Country code problem?05:03
doofy`hm would that do it?05:03
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MrDelapt-get regionset05:03
teenbotwhy is this a pretty old program ?05:03
reihow come nothing works?05:03
intelikeyrei can you narrow that quarry just a little ?05:03
tritiumteenbot, which?05:03
tritiumrei, things work.  What are you talking about?05:04
MMMondand another small question: how can I save the mere things gone by in the terminal.. being that it would be something like: <command> > text.txt --or something05:04
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_linuxn00bis apt-get update and apt-get upgrade recommended after a fresh ubuntu install?05:05
miteywhy does my laptop mouse (touchpad+clit) stop working with ubuntu at random05:05
AtlantisXMMMond: <command> | destination if I remember right05:05
GoldfishMMMond: You mean how to make every command dump a copy of its results into a raw text file without you expressly typing that append operation?05:05
AtlantisXMMMond: But maybe that was DOS, not sure.05:05
doofy`Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab05:05
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miteyive never had that issue with any other distro05:05
doofy`thats from Totem05:05
teenbottritus: what do ya mean/05:05
drewI need help setting up my 2nd monitor with twinview05:05
Goldfishmitey: I had touch mousepads. First thing I ordered for this laptop was a USB mouse +hub. Ahh.05:05
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Goldfishs/had/hate05:06
AtlantisXdoofy`: I wouldn't use Totem, it is stupid. xD But that is not your problem I guess.05:06
tritiumteenbot, which are you calling an old program?05:06
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miteyGoldfish, i wont hook a mouse up to this. the clit is perfect.05:06
miteyi want a reason not a rhyme :P05:06
_linuxn00bis apt-get upgrade and apt-get update general commands to update/upgrade all packages?05:06
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arod--java-package_0.26_all.deb05:06
teenbotwell see i dont really know much about this yet im trying to learn more about it05:06
Goldfishmitey: The clit?05:06
intelikeyMMMond bash has command history already?    if you want to save the output of commands you could redirrect them >file  but if you do that with interactive commands (like rm -i * )  you wont see the questions they ask.   also you may be thinking of redirecting stderr    2> errors.txt05:06
MMMondGoldfish: yes, I think yes, what you said05:06
fushi_linuxn00b: No05:06
teenbotim using ubunu linux05:06
miteyyes, the mouse clit05:07
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_smd_mwhahaha05:07
vr^bwahah05:07
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_linuxn00bfushi: so you have to specify what package to update then?05:07
miteyif you dont know what im talking about, then stfu ;)05:07
MMMondintelikey: I don't think I'm going for command history.. being that would be the things I type? I want the entire thing gone by.. if you know what I mean. Sorry for my ignorant terminology05:07
tritiumokay, you've had your fun with that05:07
fushi_linuxn00b: update juts updated the source.list05:07
GoldfishMMMond: Not sure. Just trying to get my arms around what you were asking. Not sure....05:07
arod--how can i install 'debhelper'05:07
GoldfishAtlantisX: lol    Yeah...I was double checking what he wrote there....05:07
Toma-whats all this about the clit?05:07
intelikeyMMMond read the rest of my post i covered that05:08
jbroomethis is probably the wrong channel to find out about that05:08
MMMondGoldfish: I think what you said first is what I want . . . dumping it on to a file, that seems right in a familiar way05:08
tgahmm my Gnome won't start whatever I do05:08
tritiumarod--, sudo apt-get install debhelper05:08
miteyToma-, i have a touch pad and a clit mouse on my laptop05:08
doofy`AtlantisX, how can I figure out which drive my DVD drive is?05:08
MMMondintelikey: alright, I'll reread :)05:08
tgaI only have ICE stuff in my .xsession-errors05:08
AtlantisXGoldfish: I got mental autohighlighting for words like that... xD05:08
arod--tritium i did that, failed to install05:08
tritiumenough, please, mitey05:08
Toma-interesting... is it pink :D~05:08
miteyand running ubuntu... my mouse will suddenly stop taking input from both05:08
_linuxn00bfushi: i just need a standard library with basic apps05:08
_smd_hehe me a girl and laughedat clit!05:08
tritiumarod--, what happened when you tried?05:08
tgaany idea what IceTrans is?05:08
miteytherefore my 'mouse' is rendered useless05:08
_linuxn00bfushi: i folowed this guide here: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu.html05:08
siriusnovahey how do i search for an app using apt-get05:08
_linuxn00bfushi: but i coudn't get anything to work after that05:09
tgasiriusnova: apt-cache search app05:09
siriusnovak thanks05:09
arod--ah i think i got it05:09
AtlantisXsudo apt-get install clit05:09
coagsiriusnova: apt-cache... nevermind!05:09
coag:P05:09
Goldfishmitey: Okay....I get it. I don't have one of those. I hate those more than touch pad mice.05:09
miteyGoldfish,  you should read lool05:09
siriusnovawhat should i install for wardriving, kismet?05:09
miteyi have a touch pad AND clit mouse. i have said that 3 times :P05:09
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MMMondintelikey: won't see the questions they ask? sorry, I don't understand.05:10
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fushi_linuxn00b: Sorry, I don't have the time to really help you at the moment, i'm off to bed, sorry.05:10
AtlantisXmitey: Touching is good...05:10
tritiummitey, please move that talk to #ubuntu-offtopic05:10
_linuxn00bfushi: ok, thanks! ;)05:10
fushi_linuxn00b: I'm sure someone else though with more experience will though :D05:10
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_linuxn00bfushi: sleep good!05:10
GoldfishMMMond: Not sure I can see how to do that. Each command spawns a new subprocess. I was thinking something like "csh | tee output.txt" might dump each command in that subshell...05:10
fushiThanks XD05:10
doofy`AtlantisX, when I insert a DVD movie I should at least be able to explore it and see the .vob's, etc correct?05:10
fushiG'nite everyone05:10
Toma-doofy`: yes05:10
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AtlantisXdoofy`: No, your system can't mount it you just said.05:11
miteyyou people are retarded05:11
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_linuxn00beveryone: i have a fresh ubuntu install... first step to get basic apps?05:11
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doofy`AtlantisX, it mounts and shows up on the desktop, theres just nothing in the mounted folder05:11
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AtlantisXdoofy`: >_> That is ebil.05:11
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intelikeyto redirect stdout use > standard_output.txt      to redirect stderr use 2> standard_error.txt    to pipe to another app use stdout |app   or  stderr 2|app     respectivly.             mmmond it means when you redirect output it doesn't copy the output it litterally puts it some place besides the screen.    it all you want is to copy the output use the mouse.05:11
FushizZz_linuxn00b: What apps do you want05:12
Goldfishlinuxn00b: When I did a ubuntu install, it came with basic apps. Are you hinting at getting some more basic apps?05:12
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doofy`AtlantisX, any ideas? I know the DVDs work and have stuff on them05:12
MMMondWhen I said "history," I didn't mean command history.. history being the text passed up .. whatever it is, suppose I just want the current session that I see now in a file, and want to dump that into a file . . . how would I go about do this?05:12
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B1zzany good game channels that might point me in the right direction of a good linux game?05:12
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doofy`AtlantisX, when I insert the DVD and it automounts the burn CD wizard pops up.05:12
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FushizZz_linuxn00b: synaptic is a good place to search for w/e you want :D05:12
AtlantisXdoofy`: Nope, no idea right now. >_>05:12
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_linuxn00bGoldfish: haha... yeah i need a bittorrent client, and some way to listen to aac's?05:12
doofy`Toma-, any ideas?05:12
AtlantisX_linuxn00b: bittornado.com05:13
tgadoes anyone know what IceTrans is? as in ICEauthority?05:13
_linuxn00bFushi: i had bad luck with synaptic... kept getting error messages...05:13
Toma-doofy`: is it multisession?05:13
AtlantisX_linuxn00b: That's my fav client, python based.05:13
_linuxn00bit's updating right now... i'll have specifics sooon05:13
MMMondAlso, to "dump" a file . . . I assume that is the correct terminology for this? And I saw two signs you guys used: | and > . . . I thought myself it would be <command> > something.txt -- any hints on that?05:13
siriusnovathere is a plugin for beep media player (bmp) that plays aacs05:13
FushizZzOh, :x05:13
_linuxn00bthanks AtlantisX05:13
doofy`Toma-, no they're commercial05:13
_linuxn00bi'll get it05:13
FushizZzWell go with what AtlantisX said :)05:13
Toma-wow... weird05:13
GoldfishMMMond: Try this, I just did it... "bash | tee output.txt"05:13
FushizZzok ok, sleep >_>05:13
intelikeyMMMond in a terminal do this    'ls > list '      and then do 'less list '   maybe that will help you see what is happening.05:13
_linuxn00bcya fushi05:14
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Toma-doofy`: its probably using the wrong format eg, udf and so on05:14
_linuxn00b<--brb05:14
intelikeyor even 'cat list'05:14
doofy`Toma-, what kind of fix is there for that?05:14
GoldfishMMMond: That will dump all the results of your commands in the new subshell to both the screen and the flat file. I did that, and typed "ls" and "ps -ef". After exiting the sub bash shell, I had some raw results in output.txt.05:14
Toma-doofy`: no idea05:14
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_smd_and he came over, and actually moved desks to sit with us #1, #2 AND #3 and we were like we were in grade5 GIRLS trying to talk to this guy.  wish i spoke Russian and oh wow, I know i could make  things go like fireworks. but NOOOO it was time for me to go home which i ended up staying at hsc and st.b for the night........ but tomorrow will be a hell of alot better!05:15
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Goldfishtee is a command to route the output to two places, one to the screen, the other to a flat file.05:15
_smd_holy crap oops05:15
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Fisherjgrieves05:15
intelikeyGoldfish yes i hesitated to move on to forking until redirecting was grasped.05:15
Fishergoldfish yes - 54%05:15
jgrievesFisher yes?05:15
Fisherfisher05:15
GoldfishFisher: Ehh?05:15
Fisherfisher: ehh?05:15
jgrievesanyone have a really good recommendation for a python book?05:16
Fisherreisio doesn't use python bindings for running periodic jobs05:16
sethkintelikey, hey, this is a clean channel here   :)05:16
Fisherthat capital 'f' makes all the funny thing is some time with too lazy to clean out the x86 one which i havent done05:16
jackmacokcnobody ever install cgi:irc?05:16
Fishernobody has the sis 730/63005:16
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tritiumjgrieves, dive into python, freely available as an ubuntu package05:16
Fisherit was available ?05:16
_jasonjgrieves, did you do 'dive into python' yet?05:16
Fisherdidnt really try that that's always comes up on the external hist against my desktop properties i cant choose in my kernel yet?05:16
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Goldfishjgrieves: Yeah, this one is online. http://diveintopython.org. The guy breaks up useful problems line by line.05:16
Fisherexit my wm it can't see some changes that breaks this time ;)05:16
intelikeysethk ?05:16
Fisherpersonally, i'd call old messed up the startup scripts re-vitalized ?05:16
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coaganyone know where i can locate eggdrop.conf?05:16
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tritiumGoldfish, also installed on your machine ;)05:16
sethkintelikey, no forking allowed05:16
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Goldfishtritium: Really? Cool!05:17
jgrievesthanks guys, im a book kind of guy though05:17
jgrievesthough i am getting that now :)05:17
Goldfishjgrieves: You can also buy it.05:17
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thezankeis it possible to set up a proxy on this ubuntu machine that i can use at other places (like the ones that you find a www.proxz.com)05:17
tritiumGoldfish, yep...diveintopyton is the package name05:17
sethkintelikey, h  e   y      s  t    o   p     t   h  a   t05:17
Goldfish"I feel the need...the need for speed."05:17
Darkhack any know if Dapper will fix the boot bug with some mobo's.  I happen to have a system where Breezy freezes at the "Detecting CDROM" stage.05:17
intelikey:)05:17
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bimbericoag: "locate eggdrop.conf", if no results, try updating the locate database with "sudo updatedb" and retry05:18
jgrievespython novice to professional05:18
jgrieveslooks like the same book05:18
jgrievesdifferent subject matter?05:18
coagbimberi: ahh i forgot about updatedb05:18
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jgrievesGoldfish does it go into syntax or just examples?05:19
jgrievesGoldfish i'm a C++ programmer05:19
jgrievesGoldfish i understadn the metanlity is a bit different05:19
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jgrievesand i dont change quickly :)05:19
coagjgrieves: python is really quite simple05:19
tritiumjgrieves, please don't use the enter key as punctuation.  Use complete sentences05:19
coagi learned it before i went on to C++05:19
jgrievestritium ....wow...ok05:20
intelikeyis that how all C++ programmers spell ?????   no wonder apps are buggy.05:20
jgrievesintelikey sorry i am legallly blind hard for me to see the text right now05:20
jgrievesintelikey don't use this machine much :)05:20
intelikeyah enough said05:21
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jgrievesphew there we go, hey i didn't type THAT bad :)05:21
butcherbirdanyone recommend a good cpu temp monitoring app w/gui ? biostar mb amd sempron05:21
Goldfishjgrieves: This thing has simple, understandable examples used for real world situations. The guys pulls these simple examples apart line-by-line. I loved it. P.S. I just book-marked file:///usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/index.html in Firefox. :)05:21
coagbimberi: how long should updatedb take?05:21
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jgrievesGoldfish thanks05:21
bimbericoag: it can be quite a while :)05:22
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sethkcoag, depends on the drive size, machine speed.  Probably 5 to 15 minutes05:22
coagbimberi: woo05:22
logical_markHey, can someone reccomend a visual FTP client that dosn't suck?05:22
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MMMondI think I got it now, thanks Goldfish  and intelikey05:22
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coagsethk: 12 gig 1.305:22
tritiumjgrieves, no worries :)05:22
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butcherbirdlogical_mark,  midnight commander? :)05:22
AtlantisXI hate it when apps autoadapt to your system language... >_> It's english here but with german menus... Confusing... xD05:22
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_linuxn00bdo i have to be running root to install apps?05:22
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Goldfishjgrieves: I've done C++, Java, you name it. Anybody every heard of Forte 4GL? I studied Python so I could utilize pywikipediabot to manage a wiki site. A real cool package from sourceforge.net.05:23
logical_markbutcherbird: Is it in the SPM?05:23
intelikeysudo05:23
intelikeyyesudo05:23
intelikey:)05:23
sethkcoag, closer to 5 than 1505:23
bimberilol @ intelikey05:23
coagwould i get flamed if i said i enabled root in debian?05:23
logical_markbutcherbird: nevermind I looked05:23
coagerr05:23
mike01?05:23
coagin ubuntu rather05:23
coagahh! finished05:23
AtlantisXintelikey: yesudo? Is that when your comp refuses to do something even as sudo? xD05:23
Hobbseecoag, no, but you would be laughed at if you managed to screw your system by accident with it05:24
coagHobbsee: :)05:24
jgrievesGoldfish cool, i'm afraid it takes me quite a while to feel really comfortable with a language, as i am not a programming prodigy :)05:24
intelikeyAtlantisX that was the answer to "<_linuxn00b> do i have to be running root to install apps?"05:24
Goldfishjgrieves: Is it a hobby, or are you a professional software engineer?05:24
Hobbseecoag: i've enabled root a couple of times - when i've screwed it up so badly...but i didnt like running as root!05:24
coagi dont run as root05:24
coagi jstu don't liek to sudo every command05:24
mike01have a simple question any help?05:24
coagso one terminal is open as root05:25
jgrievesGoldfish yes :)05:25
AtlantisXintelikey: next step would then be "yesudo or i will become nice -20" xD05:25
coagand it's on my fourth desktop05:25
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CuriousCathello!05:25
Goldfishjgrieves: Yes to which?05:25
CuriousCatCould anyone tell me how to run a .sh file? I seem to have forgotten how to do so. :">05:25
jgrievesyes to both :) im still in school, doing a co-op right now though, and some of the stuff is python05:25
bimberiCuriousCat: sh blah.sh05:25
Goldfishjgrieves: Of course, I didn't say I was really comfortable with Python. I just like the concepts. I still go back to that web page while trying to write a python app. Still an experiment for me. Haven't embraced python GUIs yet.05:25
_linuxn00bhow do i install bittornado from terminal?05:25
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_linuxn00bor synaptic05:26
CuriousCatbimberi: thanks05:26
intelikeycoag if you type 'sudo <blah> '   you   SuperUser DO <blah>   or  run blah as root.05:26
bimberiCuriousCat: np :)05:26
AtlantisX_linuxn00b: Which format is it?05:26
coagintelikey: i know that05:26
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Goldfishjgrieves: Languages never really become real until you have a real problem you are trying to solve, and you use a new language to do it. That is when the rubber hits the road.05:26
_linuxn00bAtlantisX: what do you mean? linux or the program?05:26
mike01can any1 tell me a cd burner file ?05:26
coagintelikey: it's just less typing if i'm alread su'd in05:26
techrushi think what coag is saying is typing sudo is annoying05:26
naliothCuriousCat: you hit the wrong room today?  :)05:26
coagtechrush: yup you have it05:26
AtlantisX_linuxn00b: What is the file extension of the file you downloaded?05:26
jgrievesGoldfish yep, seems like python is becoming really popular though05:27
Razor-Xcoag: ``sudo -s'' does the trick05:27
bimberimike01: don't understand "cd burner file"?05:27
coagRazor-X: hey do I know you?05:27
_linuxn00bi haven't yet... but it will be .zip or .tar.gz05:27
AtlantisXRazor-X: Also, after 2 or 3 sudos it keeps sudo status.05:27
intelikeycoag yeah even on systems like ub i always set the root passwd and uninstall sudo.05:27
GoldfishPHP is also becoming popular. I can only bite off one cool language at a time, so I picked Python. I have tried eyeballing other places to use it.05:27
Razor-Xcoag: maybe05:27
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coaghmm05:27
Razor-Xcoag: I dunno, depends where you've seen me, if you've seen me :)05:27
AtlantisX_linuxn00b: -.-05:27
CuriousCatnalioth: naah. :D just forgot to logon to offtopic05:28
mike01want to burn cds using ubuntu bager05:28
coagRazor-X: you have probably helped me in here before05:28
Razor-XAtlantisX: actually, just one sudo does the trick05:28
Razor-Xcoag: oh yeah, that could be too05:28
GoldfishSomebody built an expect-like module for python, and definitely caught my attention. When I saw they had HTTP libraries, CORBA stuff, and an Oracle package, then I saw definite potential.05:28
UrthmoverI have a question realated to video streaming05:28
Urthmoveranyone every configured a player to do NSV format?05:28
AtlantisXRazor-X: lol right. I tend to close terminals after I don't need 'em anymore, though.05:28
mike01again new here05:28
Urthmoverthat's the winamp video internet tv one05:28
Razor-XAtlantisX: I'm in a terminal right now :)05:28
bimberimike01: Nautilus can burn data cd's (Go -> CD/DVD Creator), otherwise there's Gnomebaker, Graveman, k3b ...05:28
AtlantisXRazor-X: irssi?05:28
UrthmoverI've read a few docs on it...but still can't get it to stream05:29
intelikeyGoldfish yeah,  a lot like perl05:29
jgrievesGoldfish thanks and others who recommended, will be goofing off with that package for a while :)05:29
techrushUrthmover it is possible on linux ive heard but i could never get it working05:29
techrushmplayer is your best bet05:29
_linuxn00bAtlantisX: so which should i download?05:29
Razor-XAtlantisX: emacs using erc :)05:29
ernestoAnybody is connected to msn messenger using gaim?05:29
Urthmoveryeah it's a bummer cause I want my misty05:29
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AtlantisX_linuxn00b: the tar.gz one05:29
Urthmover:-(  boo05:29
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jgrievesernesto yep05:29
mike01thank you will look and again thank you...05:29
AtlantisXRazor-X: Oh no, an emacsanatic. >_>05:29
GoldfishI know PERL has lots of these same modules, and in fact had them first. But I lost some of my taste for PERL's syntax.05:29
bimberimike01: yw :)05:29
ernestojgrieves: I cannot connect05:29
Razor-XAtlantisX: no, I just find it more convenient to use an app that has emacs movement control 's all05:30
Razor-XAtlantisX: plus, thanks to MULE I can say stuff like ``Sony Libri''05:30
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_linuxn00bAtlantisX: ok... do just search for it in synaptic?05:30
GoldfishWhat I use a lot is tclsh/expect, because I need to automate other command line tools that are poorly lacking in script power.05:30
Razor-X:)05:30
tritiumthere he goes again... ;)05:30
Razor-Xtritium: :P05:30
AtlantisX_linuxn00b: No, now unpack it. ^^05:30
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_linuxn00bdone... ;)05:30
_linuxn00bsorry i'm such a n00b05:30
AtlantisXRazor-X: -.-05:30
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jgrievesernesto what is error?05:31
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ernestojgrieves: it never connect05:31
Razor-XAtlantisX: meh05:31
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Just think, you have probably forgotten more new linux commands than many Windows users ever learned in the first place!05:31
ernestomay be it is a wrong configuration of the net05:31
AtlantisXRazor-X: Hehehe. ;p05:31
ernestoany tip?05:31
jgrievesernesto just tested again yep05:31
Razor-XAtlantisX: I'm successful with neither men nor women (in any sense of the phrase you want to imagine, if you want to twist it, be my guest :)05:31
jgrievesis your nic working?05:32
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jgrievescan u connec to the internet05:32
ernestojgrieves: thank you05:32
_linuxn00bGoldfish: haha05:32
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AtlantisXRazor-X: Well, the dependancies are more complex than any apt you will ever encounter... xD05:32
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Razor-XAtlantisX: meh05:32
_linuxn00bGoldfish: can you help me? i've got the package unpacked...05:32
intelikey_linuxn00b would you stop aplogizing for being green every two minutes.   every one of us had our first day in the linux corts,  we all understand.   if we didn't we wouldn't be trying to help.     k  :)05:32
Razor-XAtlantisX: humans are... complicated, I find compiling my own kernel *much* simpler05:32
Razor-X:)05:32
jgrievesjgrieves  System > Administratrion > Network05:33
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czer323Is there an easy way to reset the sound system?05:33
_linuxn00bintelikey: won't say it again... thanks05:33
jgrievesernesto  System > Administratrion > Network05:33
AtlantisXRazor-X: So masturbation it is, okay... xD05:33
intelikeywelcome.05:33
jgrievesif your network card isn't working that's a whole nother story05:33
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Razor-XAtlantisX: eh! my secret exposed?! :P05:33
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Okay, you were installing bittornado?05:33
Razor-XAtlantisX: anyways, let's keep it family appropriate again05:33
Razor-Xunless you want to come into offtopic05:34
AtlantisXRazor-X: xDD05:34
B1zzhehe05:34
_linuxn00bGoldfish: yes... it's downloaded and unpacked in /home05:34
Goldfishczer323: ctrl-alt-del? Heheheh05:34
AtlantisXRazor-X: Sorry, reading bash QDB too much. >_>05:34
czer323haha, actually I think that's what got me in trouble the first time. ;)05:34
Dido-i want to set up a lan network to share my internet connection with a xp, should i use samba05:34
Razor-XAtlantisX: I can guess :P05:34
czer323I had to alt-ctrl-del because my gnome crashed while I was messing with drop shadows.05:34
Goldfishlinuxn00b: BRB05:34
tritiumDido-, no05:35
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factotumhmmm...I have my system all configured the way I want it, never got to this point before....now what the heck do I do? heh05:35
_smd_Why would beep control my sound?  even ifi have my sound up in every program i have?05:35
doofy`AtlantisX, I was able to get the DVD to be readable (mounted it at /media/dvd) now I am getting this output from vlc when I try to play /media/dvd http://pastebin.com/46181705:35
rabeldableczer323: why ctrl-alt-del ?05:35
mrkojeDido-,  samba has nothing to do with an internet connection05:35
intelikey_linuxn00b i haven't been keeping up with exactly what you are doing but i did catch a  .tar.gz    if you are going to compile from source, do your self a favour and look in the sub-dir it unpacked to for any files with cap NAMES and read them.05:35
AtlantisXHmm.. Okay, wondering about the reaction... I am german! Yes! Me! xD05:35
GoldfishDido: Yeah. It may be handy to find a windows version of putty for your windows workstation. Let's you ssh to your linux server.05:35
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PedrolitoIs downloading the dvd instead of the iso worth it?05:35
rabeldableczer323: why not ctrl-alt-bkspc05:35
czer323rabeldable> Cause my x interface was frozen.   ahh, yeah.  That's what I did. ;)  bkspace is different from delete.05:35
Razor-XAtlantisX: I know another German who said something really really similar05:35
Razor-XAtlantisX: :P05:36
_linuxn00bintlikey: i'm trying to install bittornado05:36
Mr_MilenkoIM ALIVE!!!05:36
Mr_Milenkolol05:36
_linuxn00bi have unpacked the tar.gz file05:36
robotgeekdoofy`: is this backports?05:36
chaumurkydoes ctrl-alt-bkspc exit gracefully? or is it a panic option?05:36
Dido-Please give me solutions guys ;) I'm a pure newbie05:36
factotumone thing I dont get though, when i right click something in firefox and try to save-as, firfox closes. Doesnt freeze or crash, just closes... any ideas?05:36
AtlantisXRazor-X: Always waiting for Nazi talk. At a certain point you feel unwelcome without someone saying Heil Heitler. xD05:36
doofy`robotgeek, assuming i dont know what that is. no.05:36
czer323rabeldable> but now my sound isn't working with xmms and other audio codecs.  I tested the  multimiedia systems selector and the audio worked with the beep.05:36
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AtlantisXI am no Nazi, though. Just to stress that. xD05:37
Razor-XAtlantisX: If Hitler has a place for one non-white Aryan in his heart, I'm his05:37
Goldfishlinuxn00b: I just installed bittornado on my machine, and it doesn't list anything in the "home" partition. How did you get this, using synaptic?05:37
robotgeekdoofy`: dapper?05:37
Razor-XAtlantisX: :P (I mean, I am *technically* part Aryan)05:37
doofy`breezy05:37
Mr_Presidenthi all05:37
chaumurkycan we stay on topic please?05:37
tritiumplease don't discuss nazi stuff here05:37
Razor-XAtlantisX: yeah, let's go into offtopic05:37
robotgeekdoofy`: you arent using standar breezy? or did you do anything funky with your system?05:37
Dido-mrkoje, Goldfish, tritium  Please give me solutions guys ;) I'm a pure newbie05:37
rabeldableczer323: it sounds like you might have a messed up xmms library...05:37
Razor-XAtlantisX: we're having an.... engaging... discussion there05:37
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intelikey_linuxn00b read any README  or   INSTALL  or other CAP_NAME files in the dir it unpacked to.  that is where the packager puts installation instructions.05:37
doofy`robotgeek, nothing that funky I know of05:38
Goldfishlinuxb00b: I used synaptic, and if you right-click an installed package, and pick the Installed Files, it will list every file it installed on your system.05:38
Mr_PresidentDoes anyone know how to change double-click speeds for gtk apps?05:38
Goldfishlinuxn00b: You then look for the /usr/bin/ stuff, indicating the runnables.05:38
czer323rabeldable> totem had the same problem.  Error: uh wtf... Now its' working. nm.05:38
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bimberiMr_President: System -> Preferences -> Mouse05:38
cafuegowow05:38
chaumurky god has joined chat #ubuntu.05:38
GoldfishI think linuxn00b downloaded some source package instead of installing the runnable package from synaptic. Sounds a little complicated to me.05:38
godgod actually needs help, though. With JRE.05:38
Dido-bimberi, how to change cursors?05:39
cafuegomy shipit box arrived, after 2 weeks05:39
chaumurkyI'm gonna be the first to talk to god - hello god05:39
rabeldablemy sound sometimes is being used by something else.. then when I try t open the app that failed again the sound is available05:39
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robotgeekdoofy`: i would recommend that you file a bug. Do u have the libdvdcss stuff?05:39
czer323I thought god was all knowing?05:39
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godczer323:  IT's all lites.05:39
cafuego!test05:39
godlies*05:39
doofy`robotgeek, yes05:39
intelikeyGoldfish compiling from source is not for the faint of heart, no.05:39
_jasongod, resurrect ubotu so that he may tell you where the javadebs are05:39
nightelfHmm Im new to Linux and I love Ubuntu05:39
chaumurkyfailes cafuego05:39
robotgeekczer323: that's God. This is god05:39
bimberiDido-: same place, but i don't know how to install new ones05:39
GoldfishI'm trying to install bittornado myself to check it out...05:39
godI need to install JRE into mozilla plugins but it won't work05:39
factotumbah, compiling from source isnt so bad, just read the README files after you tar05:40
martinanyone log on who has a solution to playing avi files in ubuntu 64 version?05:40
Mr_PresidentI don't think that works for apps like xmms05:40
_jasongod, what have you tried/ how have you tried isntalling java so far?05:40
cafuegogrr05:40
bimberiMr_President: k :/05:40
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Goldfishlinuxn00b: Okay, I went to Applications -> Add Applications, and then expanded Internet -> More. There was bittornado client listed. Click on it, and then hit okay at the bottom. That should also create a shortcuts on GNOME.05:40
_smd_Has anyone experienced beep media player controlling all sound on their computer?05:40
intelikeycafuego still borkedd05:40
god_jason:  I installed it how it said and then I made the ln -s link to the libjavaplugin_oji.so like it said05:40
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_jasongod, it?05:41
Mr_Presidentbimberi any other ideas?05:41
czer323I thought most sound programs took over the sound system until it's released.05:41
god_jason:  JRE1-5.0.105:41
bimberiMr_President: sorry no :|05:41
god_jason:  JRE1-5.005:41
_jason_smd_, no but I've expereienced BMP deciding to neglect it's volume setting and try to make me deaf05:41
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_jasongod, where are you getting the jre from, sun?05:42
munzirHi Sirs, I just installed ubuntu and had a kubuntu around me. Some one told me I can install merge it with ubuntu how?05:42
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Are ya with me?05:42
god_jason:  Yeah05:42
_smd_ _jason: lol, well i have exprience ear straining. not deafness05:42
_jasongod, what does java -version return?05:43
bimberimunzir: installing the kubuntu-desktop will allow you to choose between them at login05:43
god_jason:  1.4.205:43
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thundrmunzir, you can have kubuntu and xubuntu as well as ubuntu running on the same system if you'd like05:43
god_jason:  I think I ran the bin in the wrong place...one minute05:43
bimberi*kubuntu-desktop package05:43
vskye800GT radeon - does it work fine with Breezy?05:44
_jasongod, try: sudo update-alternatives --config java05:44
thundrmunzir, like bimberi said, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and/or xubuntu-desktop and you're done.  Just select it by clicking on "Profile" at login.05:44
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bimberiSession?05:44
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thundruh, yeah, session05:44
bimberi:)05:45
thundr:)05:45
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munzirthundr, bimberi: I have a kubuntu CD I don't want to install from the net05:45
thezankehow do i kill a process i see in ps ax?05:45
binarydigitkill -905:45
binarydigitthe the pid05:45
thundrbimberi, can he add it as an apt source?05:45
GoldfishDon't know what happened to linuxn00b. Thought we were on the verge of helping him get something accomplished. Oh well.05:45
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_jasonthezanke, try just kill before resorting to -905:45
bimberithundr: yep05:45
_smd_so no ideas why this happens?05:46
intelikeythezanke 'sudo killall <name> '  will get any subproccesses it may have started too05:46
thundrthere you go then, munzir.  Just add it as a repository in apt or synaptic or whatever you use.05:46
bimberimunzir: Edit -> Add CD-ROM in Synaptic05:46
_linuxn00bGoldfish:05:46
_linuxn00bmy wife needed me. ;)05:46
_linuxn00bsorry!05:46
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Just don't give me any details, okay?05:46
intelikey:)05:47
god_jason:  so...I ran the .bin in my /usr/java and nothing changed.05:47
_jasongod, try: sudo update-alternatives --config java05:47
_linuxn00bGoldfish: haha... i won't... but it was nothing. ;)05:47
god_jason:  I did.05:47
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intelikeylol05:47
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Did you catch my tip about Applications -> Add Program -> Internet -> More Programs -> Bittornado client?05:47
_jasongod, where is the libjavaplugin_oji.so link pointing to exactly05:47
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intelikeykill05:47
cafuegoit connect to the server, but then hangs :-(05:47
ce_smarthhhaaaai05:47
_linuxn00bGoldfish: no... let me try05:47
intelikeykill the ghost of ubotu05:48
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Goldfishintelikey: So, are going to see the Gost of Ubotu Past, Present, and Future? I would call it the Ubuntu Story.05:48
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_linuxn00bGoldfish: where is add program?05:48
god_jason:  into where I extracted it first.05:48
GoldfishOkay...Add Applications05:49
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_smd_Goldfish:  horrible joke :p05:49
HericusWelcome.05:49
Hericus:)05:49
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Wraith>:)05:49
Wraith:>05:49
bimberis/i//05:49
GoldfishThat is why I only tell jokes as a hobby. I don't think I could make any money at that.05:49
intelikeywraith lol05:49
_linuxn00b...can't seem to find it...05:49
munzirthundr, bimberi: thanks a lot. and then choose kde, right?05:49
_smd_lol gold fish05:49
_jasongod, /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so ?05:49
iHeartKemanyone have any idea why a(n) SMC Elite Connect 802.11b pcmcia card wouldn't work in ubuntu ? i used it in whax/auditor etc05:49
WraithHmm?05:49
ce_smarttdhy05:49
god_jason:  nope.05:49
bimberimunzir: you got it :)05:50
thundrmunzir, yes05:50
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Top left corner of GNOME, click on Applications, then at the bottom is Add Applications.05:50
thundrmunzir, glad we could help05:50
god_jason:  I don't even have such a directory.05:50
thezankeis it possible to set up a proxy on this ubuntu machine that i can use at other places (like the ones that you find a www.proxz.com)05:50
god_jason:  I have the libjavaplugin_oji.so copied in to the plugins folder, though.05:50
_jasongod, that's the install directory for the javadebs05:50
Hericusthezanke, I'd get tor if I were you. http://tor.eff.org I think it is.05:50
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intelikeyGoldfish that assumes default menu placement and default launcher....05:50
god_jason:  how do I install it through apt-get?05:50
_jasongod, you can't copy it directly, firefox will crash or so I have read.  needs to be a symlink05:51
soldieruk400any one got kubuntu?05:51
_linuxn00bGoldfish: got applications, these are my options: 'accessories, games, graphics, internet, multimedia, office, systemtools, help, about ubuntu..., run application...'05:51
Goldfishintelikey: For crying out loud, I'm using a default install. I didn't expect linuxn00b to have changed all that!05:51
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_jasongod, one sec let me see if I can find it since ubotu is not with us05:51
_linuxn00bGoldfish: am i missing it?05:51
god_jason:  Alright05:51
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Goldfishlinuxn00b: Expand Internet, and you will see More Programs. Expand that, and you will see bittornado client listed.05:51
_jasongod, http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/05:51
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iHeartKemKubuntu is just with KDE and Ubuntu is Gnome ?05:52
intelikeyGoldfish some people the first thing they play with is the pannels and desktop settings.....   you never know.05:52
bimberilol - missed that05:52
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Wait a sec, are you saying you don't see Add Applications?05:52
Hericussoldieruk400, I'm not into KDE. :/05:52
HericusI prefer fvwm2 =D05:52
HericusI never got it running though, I'm on gnome..05:52
_linuxn00bGoldfish: no...05:52
Goldfishlinuxn00b: check System -> Administration -> Add Applications.05:52
soldieruk400so there is no diferance then realy05:52
naliothcafuego: ubotflu  ?05:52
kakeiany have wine for amd64?!05:53
thezankeanyone know how to run xproxy in the background?05:53
Toma-errr gnome comes with its own bittorrent client under Apps > Internet > Bittorrent05:53
_smd_ kakei: white z.... but drank it05:53
_jasongod, what version of firefox are you running?   default in gnome?05:53
soldieruk400im on gnome myself i think05:53
kakei_smd_ white z?05:53
Dido-Are there any alternatives to wine?05:53
_linuxn00bGoldfish: damn... nothing... i wonder if i'm using an old version of ubuntu05:54
WraithUmm... beer >:)05:54
_smd_zinfandel.....05:54
iHeartKemhaha05:54
Goldfishlinuxn00b: What release? I have 5.10 breezy badget.05:54
naliothDido-: vmware (free to use, but not free software), qemu, bochs05:54
Wraith:P05:54
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soldieruk400same as me05:54
_smd_gahh kids...05:54
HericusIs dapper stable yet?05:54
intelikey_linuxn00b you can check version   'uname -a '05:54
munzirthundr, bimberi: but there is no package called kubuntu-desktop!!05:54
cafuegoheeeeeeeeeeeeeeere botty botty!05:54
soldieruk400i only downloaded it 3 days ago lol05:54
Dido-nalioth, what means that it's free to use but not free software?05:54
_linuxn00bGoldfish: is there an easy way to check version? i think it's 2.4 but i'm not sure...?05:55
HericusNobody runs dapper.. :/05:55
cafuegoheeeeeeeeeeeeeeere botty botty botty!05:55
Toma-Hericus: when its released, it will (hopefully) be stable :)05:55
thundrmunzir, you have to enable universe (iirc)05:55
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Goldfishuname -a will tell you the kernel you are running, not the distro though.05:55
cafuego!test05:55
ubotfluFailed.05:55
naliothDido-: free to use costs you no money, 'free software' comes with source code that you can use to your hearts content05:55
_linuxn00b2.6.8.1-2-28605:55
HericusToma-,  thats next year! I can't wait until then.. thats april or something isn't it.05:55
_jason_linuxn00b, try lsb_release -r05:55
cafuegoThere's a good temporary bot.05:55
GoldfishI have 2.6.12-9-386. System tried to bump me up to 2.6.12-10-386, but that broke my wireless so I reverted.05:55
Toma-Hericus: dapper is for bug testers, developers and conributors... are you one of those?05:55
Dido-nalioth, is it downloadable?05:55
intelikeythat's   5.0405:55
HericusI hardly have the time.05:56
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intelikeyno that maybe 4.1005:56
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naliothDido-: there is a free version available, but you have to do it yourself05:56
HericusIt is downloadable to anyone who cares for it however.05:56
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Toma-well why bother running a system thats going to break probably ever 2 weks05:56
thezankeanyone know how to run xproxy in the background?05:56
HericusIt'll be like gentoo =D.05:56
_jasonToma-, ask a windows user05:56
Toma-just a week or 2 ago it didnt even boot05:56
HericusToma- that sucks.05:57
_linuxn00bGoldfish: so is my version too old then? ;)05:57
HericusI know of random ubuntu users that run it.05:57
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Toma-yeh. stick with breezy at least till it becomes an rc :D05:57
intelikey_linuxn00b yep you are running a year old release.  to versions out of date now.    if you have fast inet dl the latest.05:57
HericusMeh05:57
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GoldfishI can't imagine such a profound change from 5.04 to 5.10 in the GNOME versions.05:57
HericusThats many moons away.05:57
intelikeyerr two even05:57
Dido-nalioth, sound too complicated ;) so i guess qemu is ok/05:57
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GoldfishDoes he have to adjust his /etc/apt/sources.list and do a dist-upgrade to catch up?05:57
thezankewait...how do i check waht version i have?05:58
Toma-Hericus: well install it and report ever bug you come across05:58
Toma-*every05:58
_linuxn00bintelikey: any way to do that w/o burning a disk? i don't have my burner in my box right now05:58
HericusToma- I report all my bugs..05:58
HericusI'm not a n00b05:58
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Toma-also, make sure you dual boot it, coz it probably wont work05:58
HericusI'll wait till April.05:58
Toma-good werk :D05:58
HericusYou got dapper?05:58
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GoldfishI started at 5.10, so I don't know what differences happened in the past year. Is there a more graphics oriented way for him to upgrade? I am used to command line stuff, so I have no problem editing sources.list.05:58
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mrkoje!dapper05:59
ubotfluThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake05:59
munzirthundr: but I want to install from the CD not the net. Still I believe it's enabled05:59
Toma-Goldfish: you open up synaptic and click Settings or whatever and edit the repos via the gui05:59
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Toma-Hericus: nope. i dont have the time to run it05:59
KyralCommand line is nicee. :D05:59
intelikeywell.... yeah but i kinda hate to try to get a newbe to run an installer from console....  but yes you can killall gdm, mount the iso, and run the installer.05:59
_linuxn00bintelikey: is there some way to updated it within the shell?05:59
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intelikey_linuxn00b ^05:59
Toma-and i dont know C so i cant write any patches :(06:00
thezankegoldfish: i am running 2.6.10-5-386, how out of date am i??06:00
thundrmunzir, that's right.  It should be on the cd.  I've never actually tried it-I've done everything from the net.  Anyone else have any suggestions?06:00
GoldfishI am still getting used to this nice GUI front end. My brain keeps shifting into command line mode.06:00
Kyralthezanke: very06:00
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KyralGoldfish: You use what you like lol06:00
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Goldfishthezanke: I have no idea. Like I said, I started ubuntu on breezy badget with 5.10.06:00
KyralGoldfish: I hate Synaptic :D06:00
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Dido-Can I pause a apt-get?06:00
KyralDido-: You can background it with CTRL+Z06:00
GoldfishKyral: Nothing quite beats sudo apt-get install whatever-the-heck-want06:00
choudeshhello all.06:01
intelikey_linuxn00b if someone here that knows how to will walk you through it, it's not that hard but i'm only going to be here for about 3 more minutes.06:01
choudeshquick questions, how to I change my color in bash?06:01
GoldfishKyral: compared to memories of slackware 5 years ago.....06:01
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_jasonchoudesh, edit -> profile06:01
Toma-choudesh: edit bashrc06:01
KyralGoldfish: Espcicially combined with a big .bash_aliases file06:01
_linuxn00banyone want to/have the time to walk me throug upgrading ubuntu? ;)06:01
fnbluooJust Test06:01
sethkchoudesh, you don't.  the color is a function of the terminal program, not the shell program06:01
Dido-Kyral, so i'm gonna pause it and i can resume it later?06:01
GoldfishKyral: I have a saying. "Have .cshrc, will travel."06:01
sethkchoudesh, if you are using gnome terminal, it is on the settings menu06:01
KyralDido-: as long as you don't kill the term06:01
choudeshseth_k, No it isn't.06:02
KyralDido-: You'd recover it by using fg06:02
sethkchoudesh, sorry06:02
sethkchoudesh, that's konsole.  for gnome terminal you want the profiles, I believe on the edit menu06:02
thezankegoldfish, happen to know how to run something like xproxy as a daemon or in the background so when i close the terminal it wont exit?06:02
Dido-Kyral, ctrl+z and when i want to resume it i type fg?06:02
sethkchoudesh, right, I checked.  edit/profiles06:02
fnbluooI use Ubuntu first time06:02
KyralDido-: yah06:02
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sethkfnbluoo, what do you use the second time?06:03
DShepherdhey06:03
Dido-Kyral, 10x06:03
Goldfishthezanke: nohup yourcommand [args]  &06:03
iHeartKemwould it be hard to install the linux-wlan-ng software into ubuntu ? so i can get my SMC wifi card working06:03
fnbluooFreeBsd06:03
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intelikeygnight to one and all06:03
Goldfishthezanke: Check man nohup for more details.06:04
munzirthundr: thanks for your try. now it worked by readding it manually to synaptic. the auto adding seems to be buggy06:04
_linuxn00bcafuego: can you help me with upgrading ubuntu?06:04
thundrmunzir, that's good.  Did you find your package?06:04
Goldfishthezanke: I am a little unclear about which commands get killed when you close your terminal session.06:04
_linuxn00bis it wise to just run apt-get dist-upgrade??06:04
soldieruk400you know when this new version comes in do we have to burn another disk or will it just update its self06:05
DShepherdanybody start playing with dapper yet?06:05
_linuxn00bor apt-get -d dist-upgrade06:05
DShepherdsoldieruk400: you can can burn the iso if you want06:05
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soldieruk400cool06:06
DShepherdsoldieruk400: or do a dist-upgrade06:06
GoldfishThe idea of apt-get dist-upgrade is that you first upgrade which repository you are using, and then run it. That saves you from using any CD process, which might accidentally try to re-install your system.06:06
sethk_linuxn00b, I personally don't think so, but it really depends somewhat on the situation.06:06
jah_raztahis there a way to install a .deb using synaptic so that all the un matched dependencies can me automatically selected?06:06
soldieruk400but for now im happy with unbuntu just working the thing out at the moment06:06
sethk_linuxn00b, if you can tolerate a small but non-zero chance of ending up with a problem, then dist upgrade is fine.06:06
_linuxn00bsethk: i'm running a year old copy of ubuntu... thought i might need to upgrade, can you suggest a way to do that w/o a disk?06:06
DShepherdjah_raztah: i dont know. but dpkg -i package.deb works fine06:06
GoldfishMy battery power is waning, which means it is time to go to bed.06:07
jah_raztahyes i kno about that06:07
Goldfishlinuxn00b: Good luck.06:07
jah_raztahbut it doesn't select dependencies06:07
sethk_linuxn00b, you can do the upgrade on-line.  The question is, do you do it piece by piece, or rely on the package manager to get everything right in one operation.06:07
_linuxn00bGoldfish: thank you! good night!06:07
soldieruk400ask for a copy off someone06:07
sethk_linuxn00b, my problem with that is, I've had a number of cases recently where some downloads didn't complete due to timeouts.06:07
jah_raztahmissing dependencies06:07
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_linuxn00bsethk: yeah... well, its a fresh install (the disk was old) so i don't have anything to lose06:07
sethk_linuxn00b, then you get a partial install of the update, which could leave you temporarily in a bad state.06:07
siriusnovahey anyone got Real Player 10 to work within firefox?06:07
sethk_linuxn00b, in that case, sure, go for it.06:07
siriusnovalike as an embedded player?06:08
sethk_linuxn00b, worst thing that happens, you have to install again.06:08
_linuxn00bsethk: would you recommend doing the apt-get -d dist-upgrade?06:08
soldieruk400not me06:08
iHeartKemI wonder if KDE or GNOME would be easier for a female linux-newb to use06:08
sethk_linuxn00b, yes, in your situation.06:08
soldieruk400i tried but not working06:08
siriusnovasoldieruk400 - talking to me?06:08
_linuxn00bsethk: once i have it downloaded... what?06:08
DShepherddoes anyone know how to set the calendar in ubuntu to start on sunday or whatever day one chooses?06:08
cafuegoiHeartKem: Much of a muchness. They can both be configured to look and feel like what $USER is used to.06:08
sethk_linuxn00b, it doesn't just download, it installs06:08
siriusnovaanyone ?06:08
soldieruk400sorry sirius06:09
sethk_linuxn00b, some programs will prompt you for information, most will just upgrade silently06:09
iHeartKemhmm... which would run better on a system with 120mb ram ?06:09
iHeartKemgnome or kde06:09
soldieruk400i was06:09
_linuxn00bsethk: all i get is 0 everything...06:09
sethkiHeartKem, they are about the same w.r.t. memory usage.  Whichever one you prefer06:09
_linuxn00bsethk: i'm not running root... does that matter?06:09
jah_raztahhow do i automatically select the missing depencies needed to install a .deb06:09
sethk_linuxn00b, yes, it does.06:09
siriusnovano one has real player 10 installed?06:09
sethk_linuxn00b, you have to sudo, or be root06:09
_linuxn00bthis is what i typed: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:10
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soldieruk400sirius i have but it dont work06:10
_linuxn00bsethk: same thing... 0 everything06:10
iHeartKemlmao, the Edubuntu wallpaper makes me laugh06:10
sethk_linuxn00b, try the GUI tool, instead of the CLI, if you can.06:10
George_boyhi, i am getting an irq conflict when i try to connect my lucent modem with ltmodem modules installed06:10
sethk_linuxn00b, the easy thing is to download the ISO and either mount it, or burn and use it.06:10
George_boyany suggestions to get rid of the problem?06:10
sethk_linuxn00b, I don't know why you are getting that result, though.06:11
sethk_linuxn00b, do you have X running?  If so, do you have an update icon on your toolbar?06:11
_linuxn00bsethk: ok... i'll try to burn a disk at work06:11
cdubyasiriusnova, I had tried RP10 with FF on another distro but I never got it to work06:11
_linuxn00bsethk: x??06:11
sethk_linuxn00b, if you can, it's the sensible thing to do.06:11
siriusnovacdubya - ok so its not just me06:11
George_boyhello? :) can anyone please help me with the prob?06:11
sethk_linuxn00b, x windows.  gnome, kde, one of the desktops06:11
thundriHeartKem, you may also want to try xubuntu - it's based on xfce4, which will run faster on a slower system.06:11
Dido-how to extract qemu-0.7.2-i386.tar.gz in /06:12
vskyeGeorge_boy, bios setting to assign a irq?06:12
sethkGeorge_boy, what modem is it, exactly?06:12
cdubyasiriusnova, I'm using RP9 plugins and all the mplayer plugins....works fine06:12
_linuxn00bsethk: i'm running gnome06:12
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siriusnovacdubya - even works with yahoo movies?06:12
iHeartKemthanks thundr, i love xfce ;)06:12
munzirthundr: yes and now everything is ok. thanks a lot06:12
thundriHeartKem, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and you've got it :)06:12
George_boyseth_k- its an agere system modem- formerly lucent technologies06:12
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sethk_linuxn00b, with the current distro, there is a red update icon next to the network icon on the right side of the toolbar.  Not sure if that was true with the earlier version.06:12
cdubyasiriusnova, I don't do a lot of the movies....so I can't say whether it does or not....got one for me to try? :)06:12
sethkGeorge_boy, is it very old?06:12
thundrglad I could help, munzir06:12
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iHeartKemwhen i load up ubuntu can i choose gnome/xfce06:12
_linuxn00bsethk: nope... got nothing... but i'd better head to bed06:13
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_linuxn00bsethk: thanks for trying to help though!  take care!06:13
thundriHeartKem, yes, or kde if you've got that installed as well06:13
_linuxn00btake care everyone! thanks all for the help!06:13
sethk_linuxn00b, burn the cd, it's the easy thing to do.06:13
George_boysethk- needless to say, a soft modem- not too old....it works fine on windows- and is supposedly the most favourble choice for a soft modem on linux in terms of compatibility06:13
thundriHeartKem, just click on "session"06:13
_linuxn00bsethk: that's my task for tomorrow! ;) thanks!06:13
iHeartKemoh wow the xubuntu Usplash looks neat, is that easily change-able?06:13
sethkGeorge_boy, it's very unusual to get an IRQ problem with a PCI device.06:13
sethkiHeartKem, not terribly difficult06:14
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thundriHeartKem, yes, I figured it out in a couple minutes.06:14
George_boyi just dont know how to get rid of the irq conflict problem...and then there's this util called setserial...lord only knows what i am suposed to do with that.06:14
jah_raztahsiriusnova, i have real player 10 running, are you trying to have it integrate into mozilla firefox so that you can view you .rm/.ra streams within firefox?06:14
iHeartKemis there a util or a dir to put the logo into06:15
sethkGeorge_boy, you shouldn't need to use that with a PCI device.06:15
thundriHeartKem, it's under Settings > Splash Screen06:15
sethkGeorge_boy, I would rebuild the kernel, with the modem support compiled in instead of a module.06:15
iHeartKemsweet ;)06:15
thundriHeartKem, you may want to join #xubuntu as well.  It's not as busy as this, but they might be able to help you if you can't get help here.06:15
vskyeGeorge_boy, try shutting off something in the bios you don't need, to free up a irq. (com1,2)06:15
George_boysethk- thanks. will try that now. :)06:16
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soldieruk400im downloading kubuntu what do you think of it i heartkem?06:16
munzirSirs! Now I tried to install 3dchess and it said a dependency is not installable. Shouldn't all dependecies be on the CD06:16
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sethkmunzir, no06:17
sethkmunzir, silly question, since you just told us the answer yourself.  :)06:17
munzirsethk: !!06:17
iHeartKemWow... Edubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, how many are there lol06:17
munzirsethk: what's the logic behind not having a dependency on the CD?06:18
sethkmunzir, not using more than one CD06:18
soldieruk400god knows lol06:18
thundriHeartKem, that's all I know about, but I'm sure that'll change in the future :)06:18
sethkmunzir, the other distros have anywhere from 2 to 4 CDs06:18
sethkmunzir, suse has even more.06:18
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thundrmunzir, you can only compress data so much to fit one cd.06:18
sethkmunzir, if you are connected to the 'net and have your repositories configured, it will install from the CD and fetch the missing dependencies for you automatically06:19
vskyesethk, debian has more06:19
munzirsethk: yes but it's much better IMHO if they include packages with full depndencies until the CD is full and then leave more packages on the net06:19
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vskye;)06:19
sethkvskye, ok, I hadn't checked debian's count recently.06:19
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sethkmunzir, I don't necessarily disagree, but you can see the logic behind putting them on the CD06:19
sethkmunzir, that way they show up in the list of installable programs06:19
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cafuegomunzir: it probably slipped through the cracks, file a bug report06:19
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jdmpikeI have a question for everyone06:20
Ep|phabyi just reformated my laptop with ubuntu but now when i try to control the volume an error box opens saying Registry is not present or it is corrupted. Please update it by running gst-register. how do i run gst-register?06:20
vskyeanyone - 800GT AGP video card - how they work?06:20
dr_willisfirst thing I do is remove the cd line from the apt sources...06:20
jdmpikehere is the problem, I have two users on my laptop. Me and my finace.06:20
jdmpikewe both take lots of digital photos and we want them to go to a shared location06:20
cafuegovskye: it's ATI, so probably badly.06:20
munzirsethk: ok now I feel the universe repo is enable already, at least it show up in synaptic what do I need to do to make it work?06:20
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vskyeahh, looking to upgrade ... have a G450 Matrox now.06:21
jdmpikewe are putting them in the same place, but everytime we copy them over, we have to change the permissinos06:21
thundrmunzir, I assume you have that computer conected to the net?06:21
jdmpikehow can I not have to do this anymore?06:21
cafuegojdmpike: make a few directory /home/shared, make it owned by the GROUP users... and add both accounts to that group.06:21
DRAGON_UltraATI video card works great here06:21
jdmpikeI have done that06:21
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cafuegojdmpike: set the permissions on that directory to 277506:21
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munzirthundr: sure it's06:21
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Ep|phabyanyone got suggestions for me?06:21
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cafuegojdmpike: (setgid)06:21
vskyeDRAGON_Ultra, cool.  Looks like the new ATI drivers are working good.06:22
simonvalloredoes anyone know why when i try to get into my ftp it says 530 authentication failed sorry and the accounts are set up already through pure ftp admin06:22
ubuntu_Hi  :)06:22
cafuegojdmpike: That will make sure the files you place there will inherit the correct perms.06:22
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DRAGON_UltraATI has always work with my linux os06:22
munzirthundr: if setting -> repo shows the universe repo is this means it's added and tha's all? still it complains of missing depends06:22
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iHeartKemhow exactly do you pronounce Ubuntu06:22
cafuegoDRAGON_Ultra: You're obviously not trying to use fglrx on a non-i386 machine.06:22
jdmpikecafuego: what is setgid?06:22
Aviatrixieohhboontoo06:23
iHeartKemmaybe you-buntu ? or ooh-buntu06:23
iHeartKemlol06:23
cafuegoiHeartKem: Depends on the language you're using.06:23
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chaumurkyI say ooh-buntu06:23
_jasonhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation06:23
_jasonlol we jsut did this06:23
DShepherdsay brrooowwwn sugar06:23
Ep|phabyanyone know how to run gst-register06:23
cafuegojdmpike: See the comments in 'man chmod'.06:23
iHeartKemit sounded like an african word!06:23
iHeartKemand it damn sure is06:23
vskyeDRAGON_Ultra, good to know.  Dual monitor support is a must06:23
sethkmunzir, the default settings should show you a dialog for you to confirm that because of dependencies more stuff will be installed (more than you requested)06:24
cafuegoMy name is larry wall and I pronounce Ubuntu as 'G' 'e' 'n' 't' 'o' 'o'06:24
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jdmpikecafuego: I am familiar with chmod, chusr, and chgrp. I just don't know what setgid is06:24
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AviatrixieHi from a total oooohbuntu user. I'm doing the live cd for the first time tonight.06:24
DShepherdcafuego: are you on crack or you just skipped all your english class06:24
cafuegojdmpike: yes, hence my comment06:24
iHeartKemlmao06:24
thundrHow do you like it, Aviatrixie?06:24
cafuegoDShepherd: Dude06:25
Aviatrixieso far so good, thundr06:25
cafuegoDShepherd: it's my third language, give me a break ;-)06:25
iHeartKemfunny that the Xubuntu release's login screen still says Ubuntu06:25
Aviatrixieit found my all in one printer and scanner, my pda, and sound works fine06:25
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AviatrixieI had high hopes for mepis, but it locked up on boot06:26
Hericusmepis..06:26
_freelovemepis is outdated;)06:26
HericusI always assumed mepis to be like SuSE.06:26
Elemen1hello everybody.06:26
DRAGON_Ultramepis is ok but not for me06:26
fredforfaen!mp306:26
ubotflump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:26
Hericus!idiot06:26
ubotfluI don't know, Hericus06:26
Hericuslol06:27
munzirsethk: when I choose "mark for installation" it tell me you have unresolvable deps and the deps are not installable and I only have a close button!!06:27
AviatrixieWell... I wanted easy cross-over... linspire didn't attract me06:27
thundrAviatrixie, this is the only one I've been able to stick with.06:27
HericusAviatrixie, ubuntu. :)06:27
HericusOr gentoo.06:27
jdmpikecafeugo: Set Group ID06:27
DRAGON_Ultralook at pclinux06:27
HericusOr slackware.06:27
jdmpikecafeugo: thanks06:27
sethkmunzir, then you need more repositories.  make sure that for each repository, you have one instance for binary and another for source06:27
Aviatrixiebesides, I used to live in WV... I'm only 77 miles from Warren now.06:27
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munzirsethk: ah! I don't know about this source, any doc to explain how to do this? any help:06:28
munzir?06:28
_freelovewhats wrong with gnome-look.org?06:28
fredforfaen!repos06:28
ubotflurepos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource06:28
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AviatrixieI'm really impressed with Ubuntu so far. The only other distro that has worked this well so far on my pc is dsl06:28
thezankewhy when i am trying to use the proxy i made with xproxy in internet explorer it is asking me to download things like www.google.com06:29
sethkmunzir, bring up the preferences dialog, repositories.  For each repository you see, click settings, and change it from binary to source.  Then click the add button and add the binary repository back to the list06:30
thundrAviatrixie, the community's definitely the friendliest of all the distros I've tried.06:30
_freelovei have avidemux2 .deb............anyone wants it??06:30
sethkmunzir, sorry, click edit, not settings06:30
thundrAviatrixie: plus, they give you completely free cds (though it takes a while to ship)06:31
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AviatrixieI've made a few friends on dsl's irc... but the distro won't be more than a toy for me. Nice for surfing, but not much more. It does do streaming well though.06:32
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azzzhey guys, is there a way of updating or searching online for packages to install with yast?06:33
simonvalloredoes anyone know why when i try to get into my ftp it says 530 authentication failed sorry and the accounts are set up already through pure ftp admin06:33
AviatrixieI d/led the live 5.10 today, thundr... did the full install a few days ago.06:34
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techrushonly other distro ive used is pclinuxos06:34
techrushwhich is also quite nice06:34
techrushalthough its KDE06:34
techrushwith very crappy gnome support06:34
thundrIt gets better with every release, Aviatrixie.06:34
_freelovekde is better than gnome;)06:34
DRAGON_Ultrabull06:34
sethksimonvallore, authentication failed.  If you check the logs or strace the server you can discover why.06:34
AviatrixieI've become a distro whore recently. I'm sooooooo fed up with MS06:35
_freeloveit does not...........0.92 is worse & slower than preview 9.106:35
iHeartKemI like fluxbox/enlightenment/windowmaker and xfce06:35
techrushi think i like gnome more.....i hated KDE so bad i ended up using fluxbox on pclinuxos06:35
DRAGON_Ultralol06:35
sethk_freelove, better is a meaningless term.  perhaps better suited for your uses.  I use KDE also06:35
iHeartKemyou can always try http://www.xpde.com/ Window manager06:35
sethk_freelove, but it is neither better nor worse06:36
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bimberiazzz: yast?  anyway http://packages.ubuntu.com06:36
AviatrixieI like BeatrIX... it's a nice really stable mini Ubuntu derivative06:36
thundryes, it's a matter of preference, _freelove06:36
siriusnovahey anyone here use the mplayer + greasemonkey extension in firefox?06:36
thundrAviatrixie, I'll have to try that out.06:36
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_freelovehmmm...;).i was just teasing;)06:37
Aviatrixiedo that, thundr... it's only 180mb... works well06:37
sethkBRB. hopefully06:37
LoneWolf071is ther eany way i can block or stop peoplefrom Brute-force SSHing me?06:37
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vskyeunplug from the inet? ha!06:38
iHeartKemput ssh on another port ?06:38
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simontamhello?06:38
alpLoneWolf071: use ssh key authentication only06:38
techrushwelcome simontam06:38
thundrhi simontam06:38
LoneWolf071alp, ?06:38
_jasonLoneWolf071, allow only certain ip's to connect to your computer or use ssh keys06:38
sethkLoneWolf071, I disable passwords entirely and use only public/private key authorization06:38
simontamI would like to ask someone06:38
techrushplz dont ask to ask simontam06:38
techrushjust ask06:38
alpthat was productive.06:38
sethklonewolf2, then, anybody tries a password login, tarpit 'em06:39
simontamI am using Ubuntu at the moment, and i want to ask how i can un install ubuntu06:39
azzzbimberi: thx06:39
simonvalloresethk, how do i find the pureftpd logs06:39
bimberiazzz: np :)06:39
thundrsimontam, you've found some problems with it?06:39
sethksimontam, not sure, as I don't use it, but somewhere in the /var/log or a /var/log subdirectory06:39
simontamdo ni just insert the win xp cd06:39
simontamdo i have to configure my settings so that it botos from cd?06:40
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Aviatrixieso... I'm about to take the big plunge. I have a 40 mb partition free on my hd. How much should I give to Ubuntu? And any gotchas?06:40
techrushyes simontam06:40
simonvalloreSIMONTAM06:40
techrushjust put the evil cd in06:40
dr_willissimontam,  fdisk and delete the partitions, have xp boot to rescue mode and use 'fixmbr' to remove the boot loader.06:40
simontamdo you know how?06:40
techrushif thats what you really want06:40
simonvalloreopen consol type sudo su06:40
simonvallorethen do command rm -rf06:40
techrushsimontam it depends on your system06:40
dr_willissimontam,  then boot to XP and refdisk/format the drives.06:40
simonvallorethen do command rm -rf /06:40
LeeJunFanone has to wonder on an ubuntu system what they would brute force anyway, since root is diabled they would have to guess a username too.06:40
jrattner1 Is there any way to make evolution to show a POP UP or something if new mail arrives?06:40
sethkAviatrixie, depends on how much junk you want to install.  If you install absolutely everything you'll use about 10 gig.  1 gig is more than enough for the install files of a normal system.06:40
jrattner1?06:40
thundrAviatrixie, you may want to give Ubuntu more than 40 megs :)06:40
simontamok thanks you guys06:41
simontamThanks very much:D06:41
simontamIll see you later06:41
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Aviatrixieerrr... did I say megs? I mean gigs!   LOL06:41
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Aviatrixie<--- scolling back06:41
techrush:)06:41
_jasoncan someone explain to me the difference between auth.log and auth.log.0 please?06:42
thundrjrattner1, there's a panel applet that you could use.06:42
DRAGON_Ultralater all06:42
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Aviatrixieyup... I said megs... sawwy  :::blush:::06:42
vr^mmmmmmmchhhhhyeah06:42
vskyeAviatrixie, depends.  Just use the whole partition.06:42
azzzbimberi: can yast be configured to look at that?06:43
thundrAviatrixie, no problem.  I've got 8 gigs for ubuntu and it's comfortable for me.06:43
siriusnovahow do I disable the totem plugin in firefox and allow the mplayer plugin instead?06:43
siriusnovaanyone?06:43
weiersI have a very strange problem with firefox (ver 1.0.7) on ubuntu breezy. I'm trying to access a password protected website, but it does not display the website. Attempts to contact the website just times out (http://dink.co.za/cpanel). I don't have the problem on my windows box, also running firefox, but even my Mozilla Browser does not allow me access to the site.06:43
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_jasonubotflu, tell siriusnova about replacetotem06:43
siriusnovathx06:43
thundrjrattner1, I could be wrong, but I don't think it's based on evolution.  It will tell you when you ahve new mail, though.06:44
vskyebrb06:44
vr^weiers: do you have adblock installed?06:44
vr^weiers: maybe that's causing the problem06:44
weiersvr^ how will I know?06:44
razboiniki just installed ubuntu in a toshiba laptop, but the touchpad mouse is annoying, if i move the mouse it clicks, etc, any fix for this? i tried slowing down the sensitivity for the mouse but nothing06:44
simonvallorewhat can i do to extract rar files ?06:44
sethkjrattner1, there is, in the config somewhere you can run a program to announce new mail.  There are also panel applets that will do it.06:44
oxezsimonvallore: sudo apt-get install unrar (or rar), and then: unrar x 'file.rar'06:45
_jasonsimonvallore, install unrar-nonfree, it is in multiverse06:45
vr^weiers: Firefox > Tools > EXtensions    but i doubt you have it, since you don't recall installing it06:45
oxezsimonvallore: I guess that's what's __jason said, unrar-nonfree06:45
weiersvr^ I see I only have the GB language pack installed06:45
vr^weiers: that comes standard with ff06:45
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bimberiazzz: ubuntu uses apt tools (such as apt-get and synaptic) rather than yast.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:46
vr^weiers: i'm not sure what the problem could be ;\06:46
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thundrAviatrixie, you may already know this, but you might want to put /home as a seperate partition and give it a couple gigs. Then, you can resize your partition as needed if you start running out of room.06:46
weiersIs there a way to install Firefox 1.5 via synaptic or apt-get?06:46
jrattner1seth_k, ok06:46
_jasonweiers, no06:46
AviatrixieI tried to do an install of BeatrIX. Everything went fine until the very end... then it stopped. I think it may have something to do with the fact my ex husband built this thing for me, and I do know my hd is st up as slave on ide 1. the cdrom is master. it must be a windows thing, but try as i might i could not get the program to install.06:46
bimberiazzz: and yes, they download and install automatically from repositories06:46
seth_kjrattner1, sethk, not me :P06:47
vr^thundr: isn't that dangerous? resizing partitions afterwards?06:47
inv_arphmm... with breezy 2.6.12-8  how do ya get kern source?  not in apt-cache search list06:47
sethkvr^, yes, somewhat06:47
sethkvr^, back up first.06:47
thundrvr^, it depends how you do it.06:47
vr^mmhmm06:47
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razboinikdid anyone read my post?06:47
thundrvr^, and of course it's alwasy good to backup.06:47
vr^what's the "right way" to do it, thundr06:47
B166ERX!multiverse06:47
ubotflufrom memory, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list06:47
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B166ERX!sources06:47
vr^i don't have anywhere to backup to06:47
ubotfluA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:47
techrushwhat would you guys recommend to learn 1st if i want to start programming....i already know some (x)html css and minimal php/asp06:47
vr^^_^06:47
sethkrazboinik, if it isn't already there, put the touchpad driver into the xorg.conf file06:48
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sethktechrush, python is good.06:48
bimberitechrush: python06:48
techrushok06:48
vr^techrush: i guess it depends on where you wanna be06:48
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inv_arpbah got disc06:48
techrushi dont have anywhere i wanna be06:48
inv_arp.. with breezy 2.6.12-8  how do ya get kern source?  not in apt-cache search list06:48
techrushjust a hobby06:49
techrushhowever nerdy a hobby it may be :)06:49
thundrvr^, I'm not well-versed in fdisk and all those programs.  I've just used the ubuntu install partitioner and gtparted.06:49
tryagainyou guys probably hear this a billion times.  How do install software on linux.  Exes do nothing06:49
vr^techrush: whatever floats your boat then, y'know? :)06:49
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sethktechrush, python is good because you don't have to compile it, so you get to the point of running your first program more quickly.06:49
thundrtryagain, :) that's because exes are windows files.06:49
techrushcool06:49
inv_arptryagain, apt-get install software06:49
TrilomHey everyone, still working on getting good with ubuntu, but i need more help, I am in need of help to get Rythem Box to play MP3's, and when i try it says "This File is not an Audio Stream" Help please?06:49
techrushthat sounds good06:49
sethktechrush, everything you learn for python will be applicable to other languages, also.06:49
_freeloveanyone tried wolvix? its very interesting.......live cd+install.........lets u play dvds & restricted formats out of box!06:49
dabaR_tryagain: visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html06:49
techrushgreat im convinced06:49
tryagainok06:50
tryagainthanks mang06:50
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tryagaini have system shock06:50
dabaR_Trilom: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:50
Aviatrixiewolvix just did a stable game distro06:50
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razboinikthere are two in there. configured mouse and synaptics touchpad06:50
tryagainalso. sinec im running from a cd...how od i get it to save everything when i shut down or restart?06:50
AviatrixieI saw it on distrowatch today   :D06:50
razboiniksethk: there are two in there. configured mouse and synaptics touchpad06:50
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sethkrazboinik, synaptics touchpad should help.  check the xorg log and make sure the server is using the touchpad driver.  You might want to comment out the other, although you may not be able to (depends on how the config was written)06:51
inv_arp.. with breezy 2.6.12-8  how do ya get kern source?  not in apt-cache search list06:51
B166ERXI juste finished reinstalling ubuntu breezy, but my Windows HD  is now represented by a HDA1 icon, and ...is unnacesible06:51
dabaR_inv_arp: apt-cache search kernel-source06:52
thundrtryagain, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-installing-applications     check that link as well06:52
inv_arpdabaR: i know 2.6.12-8 doesnt come up06:52
razboinikok thanks let me check06:52
TrilomdabaR_ : Thanks :)06:52
techrushB166ERX you need to access it as root for some reason......so try this in a console "sudo nautilus"06:52
z0rzHow can I run vncserver for a user that's not root?06:52
techrushthen browse to hda106:52
_smd_Why would beep control my sound?  even if have my sound up in every program i have?06:53
AviatrixieB166ERX... I've heard a lot of that sort of thing happening with Ubuntu. I'm wondering if I should do my first install on a seperate hd06:53
B166ERXtechrush its the first time i have to acess my other HD by root only... there must be a way to change it06:53
z0rzanyone?06:53
dabaR_B166ERX: open a terminal, and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" then press enter, and post the contents of the file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, Ill tell you hwo to change it to make the drive readable.06:53
sethkAviatrixie, doesn't prevent the thing you are worried about.  Just don't install the boot loader and boot from CD until you are comfortable with writing the MBR06:53
techrushyes im going through the same issue B166ERX i have not found a work around other then accessing it with sudo06:54
dabaR__smd_: what, you change sound level in beep, and it changes in other programs? I have same thing, it is hard to change.06:54
frogzooz0rz: the usual approach is either suid or a config option06:54
bimberiz0rz: what happens when you try?06:54
tryagainthis sounds funny.  could you use linux to install windows?06:54
dabaR_techrush: you post your /etc/fstab to pastebin too then.06:54
dabaR_tryagain: sure.06:55
z0rzpermission denied06:55
_smd_dabaR_: well that is an answer but an annoyance.06:55
B166ERXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5687 dabar_06:55
techrushno can do atm dabaR_ im away from my ubuntu install06:55
dabaR__smd_: is that what happens?06:55
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z0rzbimberi: permissoind enied06:55
bimberiz0rz: yeah, saw it, strange - it just works (tm) for me (i installed from the ubuntu repos)06:56
thundrAviatrixie, I was just looking at distrowatch and the wolfix site, I was curious why they didn't include any wine support in the games edition.06:56
tryagainthis package manager.  Is it bascially pulling things from the cd or online that i want?06:56
z0rzso did I .. apt-get install vncserver06:56
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inv_arpin breezy 2.6.12-8  how do ya get kern source?  2.6.12-8 does not show up in apt-cache search list06:56
thundrtryagain, that's right.  Online's the best (since it's usually the most recent) but it can also take packages from the cd as well.06:57
bimberiz0rz: hm06:57
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bimberiinv_arp: install linux-tree06:57
B166ERXdabar_ any idea ?06:57
dabaR_inv_arp: are you sure you have stock 2.6.12? Cause I dont have that option.06:57
tryagainahhh06:57
_smd_ie: i am listening to a radio stream, phone rings  i turn it down go away for bit, then come back to alot of msg i missed in my chat programs.  Never heard them as I turned the sound down in bmp, or i am watching  to a movie in say xine and i start to listen to a song, i turn the movie down so i can hear the song but then after the song i close bmp and the movie and turn the movie up  I cannot hear anything06:57
dabaR_B166ERX: reload the page, and on the list on the left you will see my correction. Try putting that in your file instead of what you have, and save, close, and then "sudo mount -a"06:57
tryagaini kinda get it06:57
tryagainit comes super barebones06:57
tryagaincuz i couldnt even get flash pages to display06:58
B166ERXhm ok06:58
tryagainor mp3s to work06:58
Aviatrixiethundr... no clue... I'm not a gamer... but my kids are. I just thought it neat that someone made a game distro. In fact, I started to D/L for them, but the server was way slow. I aborted a couple minutes into the D/L.06:58
z0rzhttp://z0rz.pastebin.com/461875 is what it says06:58
inv_arpdabaR: uname -a  Linux linus 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linu06:58
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dabaR__smd_: ya, they are connected for some reason, I never fixed it myself.06:58
thundrAviatrixie, I don't know if it's still updated, but Games Knoppix has a couple releases as well.06:58
dabaR_inv_arp: ya, but how did you install that kernel06:58
_smd_dabaR_ that is my frustration06:58
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z0rzand when I try to vnc to 19206:58
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inv_arpdabaR: default with install06:59
z0rzto myip:1 it says failed to connect06:59
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inv_arphavent chged a thing06:59
dabaR_inv_arp: ya, I have that one too. sec.06:59
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thundrtryagain, not as barebones as it could be, but there are a few non-open-source packages that are not included in the standard install.06:59
bimberiz0rz: sudo chown -r z0rz:z0rz /home/z0rz  (assuming z0rz is your username)  then retry07:00
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AviatrixieI'm liking Ubuntu bunches. But goddess... I guess I'm going to have to learn cli if I install.07:00
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B166ERXDabar_ still not working ? :\ weird07:00
techrushAviatrixie you dont HAVE to learn the command line....and the helpful stuff you can learn bit by bit07:01
z0rzAlright what ftp server do ya'll suggest?07:01
z0rzProFTPd?07:01
tryagainhmmm relative to other things :)07:01
dabaR_B166ERX: try the new one.07:01
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bimberiz0rz: any change?07:02
dabaR_z0rz: use sftpd. vsftpd. ftp sends your password in plain text.07:02
lucisI'm wondering how to tell which version of ubuntu i have installe07:02
lucisd07:02
bimberilucis: lsb_release -a07:02
lucisthanks07:02
B166ERXdabar_ i'm wondering if i saved the good fstab, cause still unnacessible, even from /media/hda107:02
z0rzso sftpd?07:02
dabaR_vsftpd07:02
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tryagainDoes autocad work on linux?07:03
dabaR_tryagain07:03
thundrAviatrixie, it really hasn't taken that long for me.  The Starter Guide really helped me out a lot when I was starting.  I've been using Ubuntu since about Feb. and I still need instructions for many things CL (through man pages or whatnot), but I'm getting better.  For most things you're set if all you know is sudo apt-get install and how to occassionally edit and copy/paste stuff into a config file.07:03
dabaR_tryagain: you can maybe go about some way of runing it. I dont think anyone here knows.07:03
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tryagainHmmm.07:04
thundrtryagain, it may be able to be emulated, though there is a free cad program - QCAD that may work.07:04
techrushim not sure if autocad runs in wine but im geussing not....07:04
tryagainI have an autocad project due soon07:04
techrushtheir are CAD programs for linux though07:04
AviatrixieFunny thing... I was an early adaptor. 1982... bought a TI/99. Went through a ton of over priced toys... c-64, amiga, apple... loved apple os 7. Finally settled into windows 3.1. geez... I'm old!!!07:04
B166ERXdabar_   still not :\ arrr07:04
tryagainand i know trial copies are avaible from autodesk07:04
Hericusnight all07:04
dabaR_B166ERX: you run sudo mount -a after making a change?07:04
tryagaini like open office07:04
B166ERXyes07:04
techrushAviatrixie i used to use windows 3.11 dont feel bad07:05
techrushand os7 did rock :)07:05
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dabaR_B166ERX: try that one..07:05
AviatrixieMy son has infected his AND my PC's with CWS highjacks. I'm ready to divorce Mr. Gates.07:05
IzzyCCanyone here familiar with ISPConfig?07:05
thundrtryagain: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html - there may be more cad programs as well, I haven't really looked into it.07:06
MadpilotAviatrixie: CWS? wazzat?07:06
techrush college world series07:06
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z0rzdoes vsftpd support fxp sessions07:06
B166ERXdabar_ looking bad, still not07:06
thundrAviatrixie, I know the feeling.  It's really nice to not have to run anti-virus or spyware tools.07:06
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dabaR_B166ERX: your file looks exactly like the pastebin?07:07
tryagainam i out of luck when it comes to games? such as fear?07:07
thundrtryagain, there are many games that are suported by a progam called cedega.07:07
B166ERXyes...cut and paste07:07
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Madpilottryagain: no idea about FEAR, but Quake has a Linux-native version07:07
AviatrixieCSW is coolwebsearch07:07
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thundrtryagain, some windows games work under wine and xwine07:08
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tryagaini know tribes 2 does too07:08
dabaR_tryagain: try transgaming.org if you want.07:08
tryagainthat qcad looks nice form the screens07:08
AviatrixieIf you haven't used windows in a couple years you wouldn't know about it07:08
Aviatrixieit's nasty07:08
thundrtryagain: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/07:08
navaronecsw is some kind of spyware thing...like comet cursor07:09
varsendaggertryagain, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/CAD/index.shtml07:09
thundrAviatrixie, oh, yes.  The computers at school are constantly being bogged down by crap like that.07:09
simonvalloreomg cool web search i had it one time it was so nice im gld who ever installed it did07:09
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Aviatrixieno... cws is a trojan that takes your os hostage07:09
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thundrsimonvallore, I hope you're kidding.07:09
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yosefCan someone help me filename encoding?07:10
MadpilotAviatrixie: I used Windows until May of this year, but I've always had a healthy distrust of most of those "free" "helpful" addons... :P07:10
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yosefI've got a few network directories in hebrew, that appear as gibberish in ubuntu07:10
thundrMadpilot, especially the ones with 40 page EULAs and privacy policies.07:11
simonvallorethundr, you dont like it ?07:11
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Aviatrixieit hijacks your browser, disables your av and firewall, makes your homepage some bizarre porn site...07:11
simonvalloreit was great very helpfull they should be taken off the spyware list07:11
navaroneMadpilot...I find people just click on these web sites banners without thinking...that happened alot at work...people losing their desktops when payload hits...that sorta thing07:11
Aviatrixiethe only way to fix it is to reformat your drive and do a clean install07:11
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thundrsimonvallore, no.  What exactly was it helpful at?  Displaying popups?  What can it do that something like google can't?07:12
techrushive gotten rid of it before07:12
techrushits hard though07:12
yosefanyone know how to get proper encoding in the filesystem?07:12
navaroneeven google has a search bar...why use anything else really?07:12
thundryosef, sounds like you might need to install the correct language package.07:12
simonvallorethundr, the popups were helpfull i also hd another one that informed me of spy where its amazing how often it was cathing it07:12
simonvallorei bought 7 or 8 spyware programs it suggested07:13
Madpilotsimonvallore: I do hope you're joking... :P07:13
AviatrixieI got rid of an earlier cws hijack... but tooncomics was too much. the core changes it's name with each reboot07:13
yosefthundr I have the right languages installed07:13
ilba7rhow to set natlius to open a specific extension (.lyx in my case) with a specific application (lyx in my case). PS right click then setting open with in properties is not working and i do not know why so am seeking other solutions?07:13
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tryagainis there a way to have linux and windows or sometoher os on the same hd?07:13
tryagainwithout partitions?07:13
Wei_Lilol spy where07:13
simonvalloreMadpilot, of course i am lol07:13
siriusnovaheh firefox crashes way too much07:13
siriusnovawhats the newest 1.0 something?07:13
siriusnovaim on 1.0.707:14
navarone1.507:14
navaroneoops07:14
frogzoonavarone: you wont find gullible in the dictionary07:14
siriusnovanavarone - not updated for ubuntu yet :/07:14
yosefthundr do you experiance with this?07:14
navarone1.5 for windows released07:14
Madpilotsirexas: 1.5 is out; I gather it crashes at least as often as any other version of FF does...07:14
ilba7rsiriusnova try opera much more stable07:14
bimberifrogzoo: :)07:14
siriusnovailba7r - yeah except opera wont play movies and trailers :/07:14
thundrI'm sorry.  I don't, yosef.07:14
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navaronefrogzoo...it is right next to cliche07:14
ilba7rsiriusnva you can set it up do play them07:14
siriusnovahmm k07:15
frogzoolol07:15
yosefAnyone have experiance with wrong char encoding in the filesystem?07:15
thundrMadpilot, but it's not out for breezy backports, officially AFAIK.07:15
navaroneyosef...i once set terminal font to wingdings...j/k07:15
ilba7rsiriusnova tools>pref>advanced07:15
Aviatrixiethundr... are you a mod here?07:16
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yosefnavarone thnx, but I am in need of help, here...07:16
thundrAviatrixie, no, I'm not.  I'm curious, though.  Why do you ask?07:16
dabaR_B166ERX: make it how it was with the umask, as in the NextTry post. Then unmount the drive using "sudo umount /dev/hda1", then sudo mount -a07:16
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varsendaggerno way thunder doesn't glow of golden sunshine07:16
navaroneyosef what encoding you need enabled?07:16
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tryagainto play dvds07:17
tryagainit says go to a terminal07:17
tryagainwhat is a terminal07:17
thundrnavarone, he needs hebrew07:17
yosefnavarone I'm not sure, I think hebrew windows 125507:17
tryagainand type in something07:17
AviatrixieJust curious... I used to mod a forum. You seemed like a mod. ;)07:17
navaroneyosef...is hebrew characters in character map?07:17
yosefnavarone meaning?07:17
navaronethundr more new wave than mod...;)07:18
yosefnavarone yes07:18
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thundrAviatrixie, thanks.  I don't think I've ever been called that before.07:18
dabaR_tryagain: The terminal is in your applications menu.07:18
benplautis it possible and/or difficult to set up remote desktop between two ubuntu computers, so one can do remote administration on one machine from the other?07:18
benplautsetting my NYC grandmother up with linux07:18
AviatrixieI think Ubuntu is a very good thing. I hope Mr. Gates is making a mess in his pants over it. ;)07:18
tryagainfound07:19
siriusnovaUbuntu people really need to swap out Totem + Firefox Plugin with Mozilla Mplayer plugin and mplayer07:19
siriusnovait really makes a 100% difference07:19
B166ERXdabar_ its working :)    hm, if i want to change 'hda1' name to 'windows' where should i change it ?07:19
thundrbenplaut, yes, it's possible.07:19
varsendaggersiriusnova, yeah buddy07:19
AviatrixieI need to find good info on cli stuff07:19
benplautthundr: through the gnome app for enabling, then using tsclient?07:19
Aviatrixienone geek stuff07:20
varsendaggerAviatrixie, what do you want to do?07:20
tryagainaww cool07:20
tryagainsomething happen07:20
thundrbenplaut, however, I don't know how to do it.  I really have no experience in that kind of thing.07:20
tryagaini just dont know what07:20
jasonjdpanybody ever get onboard audio working on an ASUS mobo? just curious07:20
benplautk07:20
siriusnovavarsendagger - with mplayer and mplayer mozilla plugin and disabling the totem plugin for firefox i can watch apple trailers, yahoo movie trailers, you name it. With Totem all I get is an error message lol07:20
Aviatrixieeverything, varsendagger07:20
benplauti'll try to do it from a live system into my computer, see if it works07:20
yosefnavarone got anything for me?07:20
AviatrixieI'm a rank newbie. BUT... I'm an intelligent woman that wants to learn how.07:21
Madpilotjasonjdp: I've got an Asus mobo, and the onboard sound has always worked perfectly in Ubuntu07:21
jitsumiHello! I can not get Blender to start. When I try to start it from terminal it says: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Help anyone?07:21
dabaR_!cli07:21
ubotfluit has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org07:21
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varsendaggersiriusnova, i tried to get mplayer working on debian and could'n t do it but then i fired up ubuntu and in three minutes i was watching movies in firefox07:22
jasonjdphmm, odd... ive got a A7V333 and it didnt set it up ;-(07:22
AviatrixieMadpilot... you fly?07:22
dabaR_Aviatrixie: there. read if you want.^07:22
tryagainlinux makes me think07:22
MadpilotAviatrixie: I do - you?07:23
varsendagger--- i watched streaming malcom in inth middle lastnight, and i can ususally get daria or P&T BS07:23
AviatrixiedabaR_... I got no link07:23
siriusnovavarsendagger - ya no kidding, mplayer is so much nicer07:23
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varsendaggertryagain, what about07:23
tryagainabout little things07:23
AviatrixieYes... I do, Mad07:23
navaroneyosef...can't see anyhting in config editor...a lot about fonts but mostly global options not for directories only07:23
tryagainjust installing things07:23
Madpilot!tell Aviatrixie about cli07:23
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benplautanyone here know anything about VNC servers?07:23
nemikhow can i see what kind of memory i have? pc2100 or pc270007:24
tryagain error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):07:24
tryagain package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)07:24
tryagainErrors were encountered while processing:07:24
tryagain w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb07:24
dabaR_tryagain: visit gnu.org/philosophy/why-gnu-linux.html to learn about the name.07:24
tryagainthat means its not working?07:24
sethknemik, screwdriver and flashlight07:24
dabaR_tryagain: check out paste.ubuntulinux.nl to learn about how to paste.07:24
nemiksethk, i need to apt-get both? ;) seriously though is there a way?07:24
Dido-anyone know how to install cdrdao-1.2.1.tar.gz ?07:24
varsendaggertryagain, like what goes on behind the windows is loading screen07:24
sethknemik, yes, in the /sys and /proc directories you'll find the info.07:25
navaronenemik somet9mes it says memory type as you boot up07:25
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tryagaini guess.07:25
tryagaindriving an auto vs a manual07:25
tryagainyou gotta get used to it07:25
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nemiknavarone, rather not restart now... just wanted to see some software solution to this07:25
thundrnemik, you may be able to find it in your bios setup07:25
varsendagger--- C:/wheres/the/beer... oh crap i have to runn some programs that my owner didn't install just to burn memory07:25
varsendaggerthat memory isn't goinig to use itself07:26
Aviatrixiemadpilot... jets or recips?07:26
dabaRDido-: why not use the version that ubuntu has?07:27
tryagainhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-gnu-linux.html shows as NOT FOUND07:27
tryagain404 message07:28
MadpilotAviatrixie: recip - I've just got my Private, still working toward IFR/Comm07:28
Aviatrixieok :)07:28
varsendagger    We're sorry...07:28
varsendagger    ... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected.07:28
varsendagger    We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses and other spurious software.07:28
varsendagger    We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google.07:28
varsendaggerwhat the heck?07:29
dabaRgnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html actually. and visit gnu.org/philosophy it is a good read.07:29
AviatrixieI got those almost 40 years ago07:29
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tryagainok07:29
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dabaRso. Good night to all.07:31
MadpilotAviatrixie: you've been flying just a bit longer than I have, then :)07:31
gnu2it2what is needed to play a dvd? totem complains. could not play DVD07:31
Madpilot!dvd07:32
ubotfluextra, extra, read all about it, dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"07:32
tryagainthats a big read07:32
tryagaini get free software07:32
tryagain!libdvdcss207:32
ubotflutryagain: What?07:32
AviatrixieI've been doing it for a living... prolly longer tha any sane person should.07:32
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ldyjoin #debian-zh07:32
Madpilot!libdvdcss207:32
tryagainhmmm.07:33
z0rzI installed mysql and php5 sepeartely07:33
z0rzI need to link them in php.ini right?07:33
ldyHi all. Is there someone who use ubuntu on IBM-T42?07:33
ilba7rhi ldy07:33
Aviatrixiebut I'm not here to teach aviation... I'm here to learn linux07:33
ilba7rwhat do you need07:33
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MadpilotAviatrixie: I planning on flying for a living - and as for sanity, holding a PL & being sane seem to be mutually exclusive07:34
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ldyilba7r, Hello, I can not find eth1 after modprobe ipw210007:34
ilba7rldy i have here ipw220007:34
ldyilba7r, After modprobe ipw2100, iwconfig can not find eth107:34
ilba7rand it worked out of the box07:34
ldyilba7r, How did you do that?07:35
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ldyIlta, only modprobe ipw2200?07:35
dabaRhehe07:35
z0rzdebar .. I have everything installed I just want to link mysql to php07:35
z0rzthen I'm done07:35
jasonjdpis installing the nvida drivers for my gf4 gonna be easy? ive installed quite a few things in ubuntu already... now im looking into messing with my display drivers07:35
ilba7rldy it worked out of the box for me on breezy07:35
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ilba7rldy give me a min will give you alink07:35
ldyilba7r, ok,thanks07:36
thundrjasonjdp, it's not that hard.07:36
thundrjasonjdp, let me see if I can get you some instructions07:36
jasonjdp<3 thundr!07:36
ilba7rldy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM07:37
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ilba7rldy so do you have ipw2100?07:37
thundrjasonjdp, try here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-hardware07:37
ilba7rldy or did you install it for i know it is also automatically installed by breezy07:38
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thundrI hope that's not too hard, jasonjdp07:38
Aviatrixiemadpilot... good luck... flying has been the most joyous experience of my life. BUT... I've seen my pay cut more than in half, my benefits DRASTICALY reduced, and my wonderful pension TAKEN AWAY from me... all in the name of bankruptcy. Meanwhile, the idiots and a**holes in upper management walk away with parachutes, bennys, and pensions intact.07:38
nemiki just got dvdshrink working! and so much better than in windows even though it is running under wine! this is awesome! i no longer need windows. feels so good :)07:38
jasonjdpthnx bro!07:38
ldyilba7r, Yes07:39
Nerenedyay! reinstalling xubuntu again07:39
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thundrAviatrixie, oh, you work for "that" airline.07:39
ldyilba7r, lspci result: 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)07:39
boxdudeHey, could somebody help me get 3d acceleration working with an nvidia card?07:39
thundrboxdude, yes07:39
Aviatrixieerr... yes?07:39
tryagainhow do i get the cd player to play ym cd?07:39
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boxdudethundr, ok, how do i start?07:40
ilba7rldy ok you have the atheros then ok give me a min07:40
thundrboxdude, try here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver07:40
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tryagainnevermind. it was reading of fthe wrong drive07:40
ldyilba7r, I can modprobe both ipw2100 and ipw2200.07:40
ilba7rldy look at the ibmthinkpad t42p07:40
tryagainsystem is getting very laggy07:40
ilba7rldy did you check the /etc/network/interfaces file07:41
thundrboxdude, it'll probably be easier to copy and paste the code from the page than here.  But feel free to ask if you run into any problems.07:41
ldyilba7r, I have edit /etc/network/interfaces.07:41
ilba7rok i remember now sometimes the network is not recognized if you turend it off by Fn F5 try to turn it on first07:41
benplautanyone here know anything about vnc servers, or remote desktop ubuntu>ubuntu in general?07:42
ldyilba7r, I add "auto eth1" and "iface eth1 inet dhcp"07:42
ldyilba7r, Is that right?07:42
ilba7ryah and it works fine here07:43
boxdudethundr, alright thanks07:43
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_jasonbenplaut, I know freenx works great for me07:43
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benplaut_jason: using freenx on the server side, an ubuntu machine?07:43
_jasonbenplaut, yes07:44
thundrboxdude, no problem07:44
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tryagainok thanks guys07:44
cchello there..07:44
tryagainim gonna go to bed for now07:44
ldyilba7r, which kernel does you use?07:44
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Dido-dabaR, beacause when i ran k3b it said that i dont have cdrdao and i need to install it so i downloaded it07:46
sethkDido-, should install as a dependency07:46
hmpedersenI have a small question about installing..07:47
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Dido-sethk, sorry i didnt understand?07:47
benplaut8kb/s repos = not good07:48
sethkDido-, if you don't have cdrdao, synaptic should install it for you as a dependency.  you shouldn't have to manually download it.07:48
ccwould anyone here like to chat?07:48
thundrDido-, also you have to run k3b as sudo07:48
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PedrolitoHi, I just installed ubuntu, and I would like to update it, but it's asking for a root password and I was never asked to set any during the installation. What's going on?07:49
hmpedersenMy pc has an amd athlon 64.. Will i be able to install the i386 on the computer?07:49
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hmpedersenPedro, there is no root password.. Use your user password..07:49
sattleriumhello all07:49
thundrcc, not to be rude, but you may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic since this channel is pretty busy.07:49
Madpilotthundr: you shouldn't have to - I don't07:49
Dido-sethk, so how to install it as dependancy07:49
ccthis is my first time here...sorry i'm a windows user normally...07:49
Madpilot!tell Pedrolito about root07:49
cck thundr...how do i do that?07:50
Pedrolitothanks Madpilot07:50
thundrcc, just /join #ubuntu-offtopic07:50
hmpedersencc, /j #ubuntu-offtopic07:50
sattleriummy first time here too - is there a place for new mac people_07:50
hmpedersenbbl07:51
eobanbsattlerium, i'm a mac / ubuntu user, if you have any specific questions07:51
Madpilotsattlerium: Ubuntu on Mac? right here...07:51
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sattleriumcool - you two mac people07:51
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benplaut_jason: once it's installed, is there a guide i can follow to set it up?07:52
ccwell my computer crashed...so i just put this on here..lol..sorry its my boyfriends and i have no clue what i'm doing...but would like to learn07:52
yiso, anyone know what the hold up on xorg 7.0RC3 is?07:52
_jasonbenplaut, did you have ssh up and running before you installed?07:52
thundrMadpilot, "It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to increase the overall stability of the burning process."07:52
Madpilotsattlerium: I'm not, actually. x86 myself - but there are Ubuntu PPC users here too07:52
benplaut_jason: going by the fact that i don't know, probably not07:52
sattleriumThing is this. I hav a iMacG4 with an external FW drive and the bootloader did not want to install...07:52
thundrcc, that's okay, we're always helping new users here.07:52
benplautthis is a completely new topic to me07:53
ajmitchyi: hold up?07:53
eobanbcc, if you have any specific questions, just ask07:53
Pedrolitothere's no way to enable the root account?07:53
yiajmitch: in dapper07:53
ccwell thank goodness..lol...i07:53
AviatrixieI should go. sweet dreams linux people!  ;)07:53
eobanbPedrolito, you can, but i would recommend against it07:53
ccm not sure how i even made it here...lol..07:53
sattleriumcool, guys07:53
thundrAviatrixie, good night!07:53
_jasonbenplaut, okay, well you should start by setting up ssh (search the wiki, it's easy to do) and then read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX (also easy to do)07:53
benplautthanks07:53
Pedrolitoeobanb, why?07:53
ajmitchyi: why do you say it's 'held up'?07:53
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eobanbPedrolito, security reasons07:53
ccwhere can i go to just chat with ppl about "stuff in general"07:53
eobanbstuff in general about ubuntu?07:54
yiajmitch: because no binaries have been uploaded for it and from rc1/rc2 the updates were rather quick07:54
cc...cuz ya'll are losing me..lol07:54
eobanbhere, or perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic07:54
oemgHi everybody. I just installed dosbox via repository. However, the whole directory it's in is owned by root, meaning that I can't create my own config files. How do I make myself the owner?07:54
eobanbPedrolito, if you need to perform an operation as root, use sudo07:54
yiajmitch: it includes some pretty important fixes07:54
Dido-sethk, i enabled synapic to consider recommendet packs as dependencies but when when i refreshed didnt download... any other help?07:54
ajmitchyi: maybe it's because the maintainer was on holiday? and this is dapper :)07:54
eobanbcc, join #ubuntu-offtopic, it's a bit quieter.07:54
thundrcc, I don't get all the stuff everyone's talking about in here.07:54
thundrcc, so you're not alone. :)07:54
yiajmitch: maintainers on holiday? how ridiculous! ;)07:55
sethkDido-, try to update your dependencies07:55
cclol...nice to know...07:55
sethkDido-, your repositories, sorry07:55
_jasoncc, type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic07:55
yiajmitch: i was just curious if there were any outstanding issues that kept it from getting commited07:55
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ccokay...really...can someone tell me how to get to the offtopic thing..07:55
eobanbcc, type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic07:56
_jasoncc, i just told you07:56
ajmitchyi: no, since it was being uploaded a few minutes before you asked07:56
Madpilotcc: type that in the same place you're typing to chat to us07:56
cci realize u might have jason...but u dont understand how lost i am here..lol07:56
ajmitchor at least ready for upload07:56
ccthank you mad...lol07:56
Dido-sethk, this is what i did exactly but it didn't work ;[ cant u help me out to install the one i've downloaded07:56
_jasoncc, lol it's ok :)07:56
sethkDido-, sorry, I have to go for a while.  I'll be back.  Mine installs so we can see what's different about my install and yours.07:57
sethkDido-, wish I dind't have to go for a bit, but unavoidable.07:57
benplautSeveas: your FreeNX repo is no longer active?07:58
oemgI was wondering, I can't edit anything inside a certain program's directory (dosbox), meaning that I can't create config files. This is because root owns the directory. How can I make myself the owner (or edit root's files?)07:59
yiajmitch: neat07:59
z0rzIs it wise to chown -R z0rz /var/www ?07:59
eobanboemg, use sudo07:59
eobanbsudo gedit /path/to/file07:59
eobanb^--example07:59
_jasonbenplaut, I think he put a mirror up07:59
oemgah, ok07:59
z0rzor should I just leave /var/www owned by root and when I want to edit something in /var/www just sudo vi it?07:59
StarKruzrhi guys.  can someone tell me what the correct procedure is to use a custom kernel?  make-kpkg and all that?08:00
rabeldable!perms08:00
ubotflupermissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.08:00
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benplaut_jason: that's not working, either08:00
benplaut40408:00
omegThanks ubotflu08:00
Madpilotz0rz: I left /var/www owned by root, but all the sub-directories in it - that actually have stuff in them - are owned by my user - but this is NOT a live server, just a dev/testing install...08:00
mkyb14oh bitchX owns08:00
sattleriumuhm, I was wondering, do you know if it is possible to install the PPC version on  FW drive_, eobanb08:01
z0rzso what would be the best bet for a live server?08:01
jrattner1is mpdvdkit2 or libdvdcss in the repositories?08:01
z0rzI want to ftp to it and edit files and stuff without doing domain.name/~username08:01
_jasonbenplaut, strange,  jsut downlaoded the package manually08:01
benplautrgr08:02
rabeldablebest for a live server is to leave whats in /var/www alone and make sure o has read and execute perms08:02
z0rzwho's o?08:02
_jasonbenplaut, but I think your right, it's not setup right (although I don't know too much about it).  Might want to wait for seveas to show up08:02
rabeldableother08:02
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benplautyeah08:02
Dido-_jason,  can u help me out to install cdrdao-1.2.1.tar.gz ?08:03
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_jasonDido-, I have no idea what that is, I would if I could08:03
rabeldablez0rz: change your document root to somewhere else... leave the /var/www/ files alone they are usually for icons and error pages anyways08:03
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_jasonbenplaut, see: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx//pool/freenx/ hrmmmmmmmm08:03
z0rzwhat about phpmyadmin?08:04
z0rzjust mv the files?08:04
rabeldableDido-: tar -xzf cdrdao-1.2.1.tar.gz08:04
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benplaut_jason: i'm downloading them all manually, dpkg -i *.deb08:04
rabeldableDido-: then look for a readme or install file inside of the new directory08:04
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_jasonbenplaut, don't do that08:04
benplaut?08:04
benplautwhy not?08:04
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_jasonbenplaut, iirc there were a few dependencies I needed and dpkjg won't get them for you08:04
StarKruzr!kernel08:05
iKernelBoo! :P08:05
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rabeldablez0rz: move everything that you would put in /var/www/htdocs somewhere else08:05
StarKruzrhm.  guess not.08:05
thundrI'm running k3bsetup and I'm trying to get myself into a "burning" group so I have privleges to cdrecord and can do all that stuff.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?  I've already created a group but I don't know what to do with the group id.08:05
benplaut_jason: install the synaptic version, then uninstall :)08:05
iKernelWhat's ubuntu like?08:05
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rabeldablelike /usr/local/web-files or some other large partition08:05
iKernelWhat's ubuntu like?08:05
iKernelWhat's ubuntu like?08:05
iKernelWhat's ubuntu like?08:05
ajmitchiKernel: stop that now08:05
StarKruzrah, /ignore.08:05
Dido-redeeman, i unpacked and read the readme and install but nothing usefull there.. the install says to type "make" next "make install" but bash: make: command not found08:05
benplauterr, universe version08:06
StarKruzr'tis a beautiful thing.08:06
iKernelajmitch: I already have.08:06
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thundrbut to answer your question, iKernel, it's nice.08:06
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_jasonbenplaut, what errors were you getting exactly?08:06
iKernelUh oh.08:06
Mr_Milenkosomeoens boutta get hit with a banhammer08:06
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benplaut_jason: can't find  fonts08:06
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ajmitchMr_Milenko: shush :P08:06
iKernel:(08:06
Mr_Milenkolol08:06
_jasonbenplaut, I meant using the repo08:06
benplaut40408:06
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benplauton both08:07
rabeldableDido-: you need to install make08:07
CaptainMorganafter upgrading to breezy, i rebooted and now I have gui login or any gui whatsoever... help?08:07
_jasonbenplaut, i'm gonna try them08:07
CaptainMorganand now i have NO gui login or anything..08:07
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: are you on ubuntu now?08:08
CaptainMorganno08:08
CaptainMorganWin08:08
ChousukeYou should be on ubuntu.08:08
ash_CaptainMorgan: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?08:08
_jasonbenplaut, working ok for me, did you add the gpg keys?08:08
Chousukeyou can irc from the console so we can help you.08:08
rabeldableCaptainMorgan: login and run: more /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:09
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CaptainMorganuhm.. I would, but I can't run xchat from the command line.08:09
Chousukeuse irssi08:09
Razor-XCaptainMorgan: but you can run irssi08:09
benplaut_jason: yup08:09
benplautbrb, i need to test a few things08:09
Chousukeyou can /connect to servers with irssi :)08:09
ash_CaptainMorgan: the same thing happened to me when I upgraded to breezy... turned out kdm had been removed completely. simple apt-get install kdm did the trick... but that was kubuntu08:09
CaptainMorganthat allI need is the command <irssi> ?08:09
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Chousukeand then you need to connect to freenode.08:10
eobanbsattlerium, i'm not sure08:10
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eobanbi think so, i'd check though08:10
benplaut_jason: ok, working now08:10
benplautthe gpg key failed the first time, i think08:10
_jasonbenplaut, okay, you got ssh up and runnning already?08:10
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benplaut_jason: not yet, going by the wiki08:11
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: in irssi just type /connect irc.freenode.org and after connected, /join #ubuntu :)08:11
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_jasonbenplaut, okay, I guess it may just pull in ssh with it.  I had it setup beforehand08:11
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: but if you're running kubuntu, try sudo apt-get install kdm first08:12
Dido-irc.freenode.net ?08:12
ash_Chousuke: is irssi a standard install in ubuntu? I'm pretty sure I had to apt-get it...08:12
Chousukeis it .net?08:12
Chousukeash_: right.08:12
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Chousukewell, sudo apt-get install irssi-text08:12
benplaut_jason: i'm out for a few mins, but the repo still isn't working... i'll figure out why in a few minutes08:12
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Chousukeand: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start will start KDM if it's not installed after all.08:13
Chousukeafter installing it of course08:13
ash_Chousuke: I was scratching my head over that one for a while. Still not sure why it removed kdm when upgrading. Of course, some would argue that removing a gui login *is* an upgrade... ;)08:14
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Chousukeash_: meh.08:14
CaptainMorganaiet... wrote down most of the commands.. Ill give it shot.. thanks08:14
Chousukegood luck08:14
CaptainMorganash - Im more of 50/50 guy08:14
Chousukeheh08:14
Chousukexdm ftw.08:14
_jasonbenplaut, k, good luck08:14
CaptainMorgantoo much of one can be not good :/08:14
CaptainMorganalright, brb08:15
thundrafter I added myself to a  "burning" group and changed everything in k3bsetup with no errors, I started k3b again as myself and it says it can't find cdrecord or cdrdao.  Any ideas?08:15
Seveasbenplaut, it should be - what's the error?08:15
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z0rzWhere's DocumentRoot in apache2?08:18
DShepherdhey08:18
thundrhey08:18
Seveasz0rz, wherever you want (/var/www by default)08:19
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z0rzno I mean.. where do I specify it?08:19
PedrolitoHow do I add the dapper repo?08:19
eobanbin your httpd.conf08:19
eobanbi think it's in /etc/08:19
frogzooz0rz: /var/www08:19
z0rzI want to specify a new DocumentRoot08:19
frogzooz0rz: but there also a per user default08:19
z0rzHow can I do so in apache208:20
z0rzI don't want a per user I don't htink08:20
frogzooz0rz: locate httpd.conf08:20
Seveasz0rz, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/08:20
Seveasfrogzoo, that's deprecated08:20
z0rzyeah frogzoo that's 1.308:20
frogzooSeveas: uh oh - showing my age08:20
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benplautSeveas: it's 404ing on me08:21
mkyb14exit08:21
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z0rzSeveas what do I type in that?08:21
mkyb14quit08:21
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mkyb14ah08:21
z0rzIt doesn't have any examples08:21
z0rznm I figured it out08:21
Seveasbenplaut, hmm08:22
benplautFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/binary-i 386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found08:22
Seveasah right08:22
DShepherdfor some games the sound just doesnt work. How can I fix this08:22
DShepherd!sound08:22
ubotfluhmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:22
benplautSeveas: i did the pgp key08:22
Seveass/breezy/ubuntu/08:22
benplauterr08:22
benplautgpg08:22
Seveasbenplaut, retry please08:22
benplautk08:22
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DShepherdfor some games the sound just doesnt work. How can I fix this?08:23
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thundrafter I added myself to a  "burning" group and changed everything in k3bsetup with no errors, I started k3b again as myself and it says it can't find cdrecord or cdrdao.  Any ideas?08:24
benplautSeveas: btw, gpg only works as su/sudo... is that normal?08:24
Seveasbenplaut, only if you used sudo the first time you used gpg08:24
benplautSeveas: no clue... does it make any difference?08:25
Seveasbenplaut, to remedy this: sudo rm ~/.gnupg/ and don't do sudo gpg anymore :)08:25
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benplautk08:25
Seveasbenplaut, I'm afk again for probably a long time, feel free to /msg me when you still have problems08:27
benplautok, all working :D08:27
gnu2it2what is th APT LINE to add a custom repository so i can install libdvdcss and win32codecs to breezy with synaptic?08:28
benplaut!w32codecs08:28
ubotflu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install08:28
eobanbgnu2it2, it's in the faq08:28
thundrthat's a nice memorable link.08:28
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thundrokay, if no one can help me with that...is there a way to find the keymap for "shift+tab" and remap the insert key as that?08:29
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benplaut_jason: ok, everything *should* be configured, and the client works... how do i turn on the server?08:31
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_jasonbenplaut, should be on08:31
_jasonbenplaut, install the client and try to login to it08:32
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benplaut_jason: so it is always on, as a background process?08:32
_jasonbenplaut, yep08:33
londonboi2k3Hi guys, what is the packege name for emacs? not the gui one but the one I can use in the shell?08:33
benplaut_jason: what would the hostname be? an IP adress?08:33
_jasonbenplaut, yeah08:33
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benplaut_jason: and do i have to use the nxclient to connect, or would another client work?08:34
_jasonbenplaut, nomachine.org  I think there is a way to set it up to work as a webpage but I'm not sure and haven't looked into it08:35
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benplautk08:35
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ra21vihi, i m using Ubuntu 5.10 and I want to get developemtn libs for programming08:37
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erik__hello how can i change DHCP3 from eth0 to eth3 ?08:37
ra21vii got anjuta/gcc4/glade208:37
ra21vibut I am having problem with making project08:37
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ra21viany c/c++ developer here, please its urgent08:38
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benplautwell //that's// not going to work :P08:39
thundrra21vi, you may also want to try #debian or #debian_08:39
erik__change your sources.list do an apt-get update and look for the right programs ra21vi08:40
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benplaut_jason: the way it //should work is i install identical setups on each machine, then tell my grandmother to email me her ip, from whatsmyip.com, for example, then put that into the config?08:41
ra21vithundr: ok :)08:41
thundrI don't know how friendly the #debian folks will be, though :)08:42
erik__hello how can i change DHCP3 from eth0 to eth3 ?08:42
_jasonbenplaut, you would want tour grandmother's computer to have the server installed.  Then once you get the ip, you can use the client on your machine.08:42
ra21vithundr: but i remember the aggressive talk of debian sitters last time... they arent polite...08:42
erik__anybody ?08:42
StarKruzrBueller?08:42
thundrra21vi, yeah, I had the same experience.  I was just trying to get you the quickest answer without knowing anything myself.08:43
xspadeserik__  tried replacing to eth3 in /etc/network/interfaces?08:43
benplaut_jason: and it makes sense that trying to go into my own machine wouldn't work? i'm trying to test this, but it may not be working because of that08:43
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ra21vithundr: they fire at getting reference to UBUNTU... they say Ubuntu isn't Debian08:44
_jasonbenplaut, it should work, I did it myself to test it.  You should make sure you can ssh into it first.  Do you have a firewall blocking port 22?08:44
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benplaut_jason: i'm using port 8888, i'll check that it's open08:45
thundrra21vi, yes, you may want not to mention Ubuntu there.  Just say it's debian.08:45
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erik__xspades, i'll look for it08:48
xspadesit should be the last line or so08:49
Razor-XI'm going to have to ask again how using a larger WM is more productive, but, eh08:49
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Razor-X:P08:49
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erik__found it .................   editttt08:50
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Toma-Razor-X: youre a resource junky?08:50
Toma-:D08:50
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Razor-Xerrr08:51
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Razor-Xgod, wrong channel08:51
Razor-X:P08:51
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CaptainMorganlost my gui after upgrading to Breezy... any suggestions ?08:52
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benplaut!xserver08:52
ubotfluparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, benplaut08:52
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CaptainMorgan!xserver ?08:52
ubotfluCaptainMorgan: Syntax error in line 108:52
benplaut!reconfigure-xserver08:52
ubotflubenplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:52
benplautdamn you, ubotu08:52
xspadesbenplaut what are you trying to do?08:52
CaptainMorganubotflu syntax error ?08:52
ubotfluCaptainMorgan: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:52
Razor-XCaptainMorgan: you can try to ``sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg'' if a reconfigure doesen't work08:52
benplautCaptainMorgan: try typing this into the terminal: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:53
benplautCaptainMorgan: ubotu is the bot that lets me not type stuff like that^^ :P08:53
benplaut_jason: the error log:NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 863008:53
benplautNX> 285 Enabling check on switch command08:53
benplautNX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files08:53
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benplautmake any sense?08:53
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erik__Xspades   it's not there in interfaces08:54
CaptainMorganben I couldn't get irssi to work, so I don't have to run back forth between linux/win08:54
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cafuegoAIYEE!08:55
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cafuegoWhich Gnome component is directly responsible for loading and displaying theme images?08:55
benplautCaptainMorgan: in english? your sentence conflicts with itselg...08:55
CaptainMorgan?08:55
benplautcafuego: i'm guessing it's with gkt08:55
CaptainMorganirssi - chat  so  I don' thave to run back and forth to win08:55
CaptainMorganIM in win right now08:56
cafuegobenplaut: Yeh, but which bit...08:56
xspadeserik__ if your eth3 is configured, put 'iface eth3 inet dhcp' into the /etc/network/interfaces file and comment out the old line08:56
benplautCaptainMorgan: so irssi //is// working08:56
CaptainMorganhuh?08:56
CaptainMorganno it' snot08:56
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benplautcafuego: let's say that #gtk+ is a junk channel08:56
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CaptainMorganor maybe it does.. but ic an't connect to freenode08:56
benplautCaptainMorgan: so you //are// haveing to switch back and forth to linux and windows08:56
CaptainMorganyes08:57
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cafuegostuff it, I'll just re-reinstall08:57
CaptainMorganill try those commmands.. but it's a pain to run there and have them ont work..08:57
CaptainMorgannot08:57
erik__hello how can i change DHCP3 from eth0 to eth3 ?08:57
erik__anybody ?08:57
CaptainMorganand then run back08:57
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thundrra21vi, you've tried "sudo apt-get install anjuta gcc4 kdevelop qt-designer"08:58
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CaptainMorganhelp ?08:59
CaptainMorganthis is trouble... I primarily work in linux, but now Im screwed08:59
thundrlet me read it, just a second09:00
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benplautCaptainMorgan: try the command above^^09:00
eobanbwhats the problem?09:00
benplautsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:00
CaptainMorganwill ben.. but wouldn't mind a few more commands to try... PIA to run back and forht09:00
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benplautCaptainMorgan: if that one doesn't work, then it's probably more trouble to fix the xserver than to reinstall... but that one fixes a broken xserver 99.9% of the time09:01
PedrolitoMaybe it's not really an ubuntu question, but I installed ubuntu on a new partition, and I would like to get back to fedora. I kept all my fedora partitions, including the boot partition. Ubuntu set up my computer to boot on its partition. How do I get back to booting from my old boot partition?09:01
Razor-XCaptainMorgan: try a reconfigure: ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg''09:02
CaptainMorganalright, Ill try it.. you gonna be here for a bit?09:02
Razor-XCaptainMorgan: if I'm not here, others should be able to help just as well :)09:02
CaptainMorganhow do I back up on Linux to cd if I have to reinstall ?09:02
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Razor-X(like benplaut)09:02
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ChousukeCaptainMorgan: no need for re-installs09:03
Chousukehow did irssi fail?09:03
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CaptainMorganwouldn't connect to freenode09:03
benplautRazor-X: the extent of my knowledge on xserver is that command :P09:03
Chousukemaybe the address was wrong09:03
CaptainMorganirc.freenode.net ?09:03
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CaptainMorgannope.. that's the one09:03
eobanbdoes the machine have an internet connection?09:03
Chousukewhat did it say?09:03
Razor-Xbenplaut: every faithful Ubuntian (Ubuntite, whatever) knows that like a mnemonic :)09:03
eobanbe.g. can you ping google.com?09:03
CaptainMorganyes eo09:03
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Chousuke irc.eu.freenode.net <- that's one09:04
CaptainMorganerror - connection <blah blah... wouldn't connect or soemthing >09:04
juchipiloI don't like to use sudo... how would i find out the root password in my ubuntu system09:04
Chousukeapparently there is no irc.freenode.org :/09:04
CaptainMorganirc.eu* ?09:04
Razor-Xjuchipilo: there is none09:04
eobanbjuchipilo, there isnt one09:04
xspadessudo passwd set one, then su or sudo -s09:04
CaptainMorganwill try to ping google eo09:04
juchipilook..thanks09:04
benplautRazor-X: aye09:04
CaptainMorganalright... brb :)09:05
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Chousukehope he also tries to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net :P09:05
thundrra21vi, check in #debian_ as well.  It's small, but they're friendly there.09:06
juchipiloxspades: it doesn't seem to work..09:07
xspadeswhat are you trying to do with root?09:08
xspadeslike login to gdm with it?09:08
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juchipilonothing right now.. i just hate having to use sudo. I'm used to become root and do what i need to do and then exit09:09
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xspadessudo -s will get you root in a shell09:09
juchipiloi know.. but it's just the fact that i don't like sudo09:10
xspadeswell one sudo wont kill you09:10
xspadesi open one up, sudo -s and leave it open for when needed09:10
juchipiloi just hate that.09:10
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juchipiloit looks 'dirty' to my eyes09:11
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juchipilohaving to type sudo on every command i need to run doesn't seem right to me09:11
Chousukebut you don't have to. :P09:12
eobanbthats the price of security.09:12
xspadesjuchipilo edit your shortcut for terminal to run sudo -s on startup so you are greeted with root right away09:12
juchipiloso that's why I want to know how to be able to become root09:12
Chousukesudo -i09:12
Chousukeyou're root09:12
eobanbsudo bash....you're root also09:12
eobanbhow is this a big deal in any way09:12
ChousukeI think -i is better.09:12
Chousukeit loads root's evironment and all. or was that -s?09:13
benplaut_jason: you there?09:13
juchipilosudo -i asks me for the password09:13
eobanbwell duh...09:13
Chousukeof course it does09:13
_jasonbenplaut, yep09:13
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xspadesif you hate entering the pass, edit suderos to stop asking you for it09:13
juchipiloif i knew the password then i wouldn't have the problem09:13
Chousukeit's yours09:13
Chousukeyour normal user's pass.09:13
benplaut_jason: it's timeing out and the log isn't reporting anything wrong... any ideas?09:13
Chousukeyour normal user is the admin09:13
_jasonbenplaut, are you sure the port is open?09:14
juchipilooh. ok. i see09:14
juchipilonow i'm root09:14
ChousukeHe's the superuser, but you elevate your rights only  when necessary09:14
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juchipiloand now I can edit the root password09:14
benplaut_jason: i haven't installed a firewall on the computer, and the router has it open09:14
ChousukeI don't recommend that though. :/09:14
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juchipilowhy not09:14
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eobanbi dont know, i feel like if you have to ask how to enable a root password, you have no business doing it in the first place09:15
hajikiIs there a program to do batch conversion from SVG to PNG?09:15
Chousukebesides remembering two passwords isn't good at all09:15
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Chousukeor rather, it's just bothersome ;p09:15
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juchipiloeobanb. this isssue is not present in other distros... that's why i had to ask09:16
_jasonbenplaut, try to ssh into your machine and see if it works: ssh benplaut@my.ip09:16
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benplaut_jason: just hangs there...09:17
Chousukejuchipilo: It's not an "issue"09:17
benplauti'm out for the night, i'll mess with this more in the morning09:17
Chousukein the negative sense at least :/09:17
hajikiIs there a program to do batch conversion from SVG to PNG?09:17
juchipiloyes.. to me it is09:17
ChousukeIt's a Ubuntu design decision09:17
Chousukeand I think it's correct.09:17
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ChousukeI moved to sudo in Debian right after discovering it... it's just so much more conveninet to me than a root account :)09:18
Chousukeespecially with a few select commands defined with NOPASSWD:09:18
juchipiloit should be the user's decision09:18
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Chousukejuchipilo: no.09:18
lexhiderI know that if you play with dapper, expect to get burned. When I upgrade everything works except internet access, is this to be expected???09:19
Chousukegeneric users have no clue about it09:19
_jasonbenplaut, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97277&highlight=freenx+setup might help you.  Also, I have my ssh setup to accept passwords and not require ssh keys so I don't know if that is part of the problem.09:19
juchipiloand in my case i decide that i become root to do my admin tasks and then exit09:19
eobanbthats what sudo is for......09:19
Chousukeyes.09:19
Chousukeyou use sudo to become root instead of logging in as root.09:19
Chousukeit's the same thing, just a different method.09:19
juchipiloi know that i sound stubborn. but that's how i prefer to do things09:20
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juchipiloi've done it in other distros and never had a problem09:20
Chousukewell, no-one's stopping you.09:20
eobanbwelcome back cc..09:20
ccty09:20
Chousukeit takes one command to enable rot.09:20
Chousukeroot*09:20
juchipiloyeah. and thanks for helpping me09:20
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cci would just love to know how to change file systems so i can reinstall windows09:22
eobanbyou mean re-partition?09:22
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eobanbyou should be able to allot space for windows with gparted09:23
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ompaul!tell juchipilo about rootsudo09:24
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ompauljuchipilo, you can see all sorts of stuff on that link the bot sent you09:24
vbgunzI have an interesting question. On Windows, when I had a folder I felt was top priority, I would prefix it with a !. When I did this, those folders would always sort to the top in alphabetical order... How do I do this on Ubuntu?09:25
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eobanbvbgunz, i suppose you could basically do the same thing on ubuntu.09:26
xspadesput a 0 at the beginning?09:26
eobanbyeah, something like that.09:26
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eobanbjust dont mess with important directories.09:27
vbgunzeobanb: unfortunately I cannot... I can prefix a folder with ! or @ but when folders are sorted in alphabetical order, those prefixes are ignored :(09:27
_jasonvbgunz, how about aaaaaa09:27
eobanblol09:27
vbgunz_jason: yeah, am doing that now, but don't like it... Maybe there is something else I can use?09:28
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CaptainMorganthat didn't work09:28
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CaptainMorgansudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:29
CaptainMorgangot to about the sync test... then it kicked me back to the command line09:29
_jasonvbgunz, how about the 0 that xspades suggested?09:29
CaptainMorganI rebooted and nothing09:29
CaptainMorganirssi says ( connection timed out )09:29
CaptainMorgantried irc.eu.freenode.net09:29
vbgunz_jason: numbers and letters work... was just trying to use a symbol instead... It's a quirk I have :P09:30
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_jasonvbgunz, ah09:30
redguy|workvbgunz: how about _ ?09:30
CaptainMorganwhat a freakin pain in the ass for this shit09:30
xspadeswell i think linux ignores symbol, like .icons will be same order as regular icons09:30
vbgunzredguy|work: I think I tried that...09:30
xspadesjust hidden09:30
eobanbCaptainMorgan's xorg is broken?09:30
CaptainMorganwhy would it be/09:30
CaptainMorgan?09:30
CaptainMorganI just upgraded to breezy..09:30
CaptainMorganwhat the hell is cauzing the the bproblem?09:31
eobanboh, uh.....you just said something about 'got to the sync test then it kicked me back to the command line'?09:31
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CaptainMorganany way I can revert back to hoary09:31
CaptainMorgan?09:31
eobanbi thought you meant that xorg wasnt working.09:31
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: what video board do you have?09:31
vbgunzits' cool... no biggie, I'll just use  @0_ or something09:31
insomndhi. is there a way to set a desktop background left (instead of centred) in gnome?09:31
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CaptainMorganwell I got to, I forget, a list of numbers. 1 throuh 24... so much shit I forget what it was exactly, pic a sync or something.. I did and it kicked me09:32
haag_wOw09:32
haag_:D09:32
CaptainMorganvideo board? uhmm.. ati- something something09:32
eobanbCaptainMorgan, dont do advanced, do medium09:32
CaptainMorganI did simple09:33
munzirhi sirs! I want to use adept so I logged as root and launched it. It said it would open as read only and I have to be root. On the terminal I see the message: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed09:33
munzirkapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem()09:33
CaptainMorgani first tried advanced, then I did simple09:33
eobanboh, 1-24, that would be colour depth then09:33
munzirwhat's wrong please?09:33
eobanbadept?09:33
CaptainMorganadept?09:33
eobanbdoes he mean apt-get09:33
redguy|workmunzir: you didn't have to log in as root.09:34
CaptainMorganright, color depth sounds right.. I picked 24 and it kicked me09:34
CaptainMorganI tried again, and it kicked me a gain09:34
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redguy|workeobanb: adept is a apt front-end forKDE09:34
eobanboh, good to know.09:34
eobanbi dont use kde at all.09:34
eobanbmunzir, does kynaptic work?09:35
CaptainMorganomg.. what do I do about the gui???09:35
eobanbwell what does /var/log/xorg.0.log say09:35
eobanber, Xorg.0.log09:35
CaptainMorganhow do I know? I can't just cut and paste it to you09:35
redguy|workmunzir: whaqt's wrong with running adept with your regular user?09:35
redguy|work!tell CaptainMorgan about pastebin09:36
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CaptainMorganpastebiN???09:36
CaptainMorganon the command line?09:36
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redguy|workhuh? ubotu changed nick?09:36
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redguy|workCaptainMorgan: hmmm, you could try it in lynx...09:37
eobanbno, CaptainMorgan, pastebin is how users paste large chunks of text that would flood the channel09:37
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CaptainMorganomg, I know what pastebin is.. I can't use it at the command line if I can't open a browser!09:37
bimberi!pastebin cli09:37
CaptainMorganomg09:37
eobanbcalm down..09:37
CaptainMorgansorry, but I do 90 % of my work in Linux and now I can't access any of it..09:37
eobanbcat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less09:38
CaptainMorganbecause of a freakin upgrade!? no loess09:38
eobanband look for lines that start with EE09:38
eobanbCaptainMorgan, do you understand?09:38
CaptainMorgannno09:38
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shivyhya09:38
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CaptainMorganwhat do I do when I find them ?09:38
eobanbtell me what they say?09:38
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CaptainMorganare you serious? how?09:39
CaptainMorganIm in Win09:39
CaptainMorganright now09:39
eobanboh, you're dual-booting?09:39
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CaptainMorganye09:39
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: look what grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log says09:39
CaptainMorganredguy - read above09:39
eobanbokay, calm down please, i don't know what your setup is09:39
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: I see09:39
eobanbdo you have a second computer?09:39
CaptainMorganyes. but that's a PIA...09:40
CaptainMorgani guess it's my only choice ?09:40
eobanblisten, if you can get onto IRC with another computer, then we can start fixing the problem09:40
xspadesit would be easyer than reboot into windows all the time09:40
eobanbuntil then, if you're going to refuse to boot into ubuntu then i cant do anything09:40
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eobanbif you dont have another computer, you can always write down what the log says and boot back into windows and type it09:40
eobanbor you can try to get irssi to work09:41
CaptainMorganbooting into ubuntu isn't the problem.. it's getting there.. .then the commands I recieve from helpful folks putting in an effort don't work and then it's only more time wasted...09:41
insomndis there somewhere i can get a collection of high quality ICONS?09:41
CaptainMorganirssi won't wonnet09:41
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: not really you, can try irssi or bitchx09:41
thundreobanb, could he use links or something similar to put the log up?09:41
eobanbwell can anything else connect to the internet, CaptainMorgan09:41
shivyIm having some problems with my SCREEM, i cant save directly in /var/www .. could i make a link from my home dir to my var www . So That everythin I edit in for exmple /home/index.htm becomes directly seeable in /var/www ??  ???09:41
eobanb!ln09:42
ubotfluln is a link. For a symbolic link, do: ln -s <target> <link_name>09:42
CaptainMorganim in the process of getting the other comp up an running... brb09:43
shivyubotflu..so i need to do ' ln -s /home/user/index.htm /var/www   ?09:43
insomnd!ubotflu09:43
ubotfluinsomnd: I haven't a clue09:43
quackerCaptainMorgan, you need to calm down and focus or walk away and focus later.  Please, eobanb if being very patients and IF YOU COOPERATE can probably do sereral things to help.  The calmer and more focused on actual problem -soving that you are...  <wink>09:43
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shivyfrom which side should i do that09:44
shivyor would either side work ?09:44
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CaptainMorganalready moved on quack, but thanks.. please read above09:44
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munzirredguy|work, with normal user the same error message09:45
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munzireobanb, I don't about kynaptic,,,,,,, let me check ...09:45
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[1] Captaink.. in from the other comp... not bad as I thought... had to do some quick installs... main computer is rebooting to linux now...09:47
quackerTis sounds good09:48
quackererr 'this...'09:49
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munzirredguy|work, eobanb: kynaptic still says I had to be root!09:49
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thundrmunzir, yes, you have to use sudo09:51
[1] Captaink..09:51
xfree[4295248.920000]  You need some storage available to be able to suspend.09:51
xfree ,how can i fix this ?09:51
[1] Captainim in09:51
ale3hshello, when I try to do MMS streaming with xmms, I get this -->Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libsmooth.so", Message: device: default09:51
ale3hs: and I cannot open mms links with xmms.. I checked in some forums but I could find a solution.. can anyone help?09:51
NerenedWill someone here share in my joy?09:51
[1] Captainnow... what was that file you want to see ?09:51
thundrxfree, it sounds like you're running low on space.09:51
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NerenedE16 running on Xubuntu! Finally!09:52
munzirthundr, it says: Error: "/tmp/ksocket-munzir" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.09:52
xfreethundr, how can i know how mutch this 'suspend' need of space ?09:52
thundrhow much space do you have on your drive?09:53
[1] Captainuh... Xorg.0.log is pretty large.. what do you want to know09:53
[1] Captain?09:53
munzirthundr, /dev/hda7             5.5G  2.2G  3.1G  42% /09:53
bolrodXorg takes up at least 1cm2 I guess09:53
munzirthundr, iceauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/munzir/.ICEauthority09:53
munzirkdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting.09:53
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[1] Captain1cm2 ?09:54
[1] Captainwhat's that?09:54
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thundrsorry munzir , that was directed at xfree09:55
[1] Captainnothing with (EE)09:55
[1] Captainmostly (WW) or (II)09:55
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munzirthundr, ok I will try to figure it out then !09:56
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thundrmunzir, I'm sorry, it's too late and I can't even read the screen anymore.  Try #kubuntu or #debian_ if there's no one here09:57
munzirthundr, thanks a lot for your nice help09:58
thundrmunzir, sorry I couldn't help more.09:58
thundrmunzir, but you're welcome09:58
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[1] Captainafter running xserver- reconfig.. why at PLease select your desired default color depth in bits selction. I choose 24 and then it kicks me to the command line... why ?09:59
[1] Captainsayz xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file... backup in .....10:00
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[1] Captaingray!10:02
[1] CaptainI neeed help amigo!10:02
[1] Captain:)10:02
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cafuego!test10:03
ubotfluPassed.10:03
[1] Captain617 users.. anyone here ?10:03
ardchoilleis there a wish list for Ubuntu 5.10?10:03
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spaceyardchoille, 5.10 is already released/10:03
cafuegoardchoille: it has been released, a wishlist would be useless.10:03
ardchoillewell, yeah.. what was I thinking10:03
cafuegoardchoille: You cna file wishlist bugs against any package at any time.10:04
ardchoilleI guess I was thinking of a list of apps that people want to see in the next version10:04
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spaceyardchoille, you can find it in the wiki10:04
GTroy_how do I edit my /etc/fstab to mount my 2nd ext3 hard drive? anyone...anyone?10:04
cafuegoardchoille: That's handled via 'popularity-contest'10:04
spaceyuniversecandidates10:05
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spaceyfor example10:05
ardchoillespacey, cafuego: thank10:05
ardchoilles10:05
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[1] Captainhello ?10:06
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UniXoiDehi all10:06
phil_mogus up late o what10:06
phil_rappin the nine count on tookie williams10:07
shivyok I made an index.html .. I put it in /var/www .. and still it doesnt show10:07
phil_merderous10:07
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shivyKeeps on saying that I have no permission10:07
cafuegoshivy: Well then10:08
rob_pGTroy_:  Do, "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_bak" and then, "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and it'll open up in a text editor for you to edit.10:08
UniXoiDeI want install edubuntu in primery scool, but I have a broblem with goverment, how/where can I obtain licence of EDUBUNTU ?10:08
cafuegoUniXoiDe: Edubuntu is FREE.10:08
cafuegoUniXoiDe: no licenses are required.10:08
phil_license is FSF isn't it?10:08
UniXoiDeyep10:09
cafuegoOh, you want a copy for the accountants to look at? ;-)10:09
UniXoiDecertificate to indicate that is free software10:09
UniXoiDeGNU/GPL10:09
phil_FSF means your students already have a license and you don't have to pay anyone at all ... the people who wrote it, wrote it for your students, no exceptions.10:10
cafuegoUniXoiDe: There is no such certificate; the boot screen states as muich, though.10:10
UniXoiDethe goverment impose some papers to process with that distro10:10
cafuegoUniXoiDe: And a copy of the GPL will be on the cd.10:10
cafuegoUniXoiDe: just download the GPL, print it...10:10
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UniXoiDehmm10:11
UniXoiDeI c10:11
phil_what's this government shite?10:11
phil_I mean rigamarolle?10:11
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UniXoiDei dont understand10:11
UniXoiDecan u explain to me plz10:12
phil_who's telling you that you can't run UBUNTU10:12
phil_???10:12
UniXoiDeah, they impose that all products are on licence or certificate10:13
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cafuegoUniXoiDe: Print this: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html10:13
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cafuegoUniXoiDe: make a pretty certificate for it if you want to ;-)10:13
_Gray_UniXoiDe: just give them a paper with the ubuntu website and tell em to look it up lol10:13
phil_There _IS_ a license ... it's the GPL or general public license, whic hI believe passes very strict legal standards and will easily satisfy your stooges needs.10:13
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UniXoiDeI know, but hopes that the goverment understand that10:14
rob_pshivy:  Is your index.html document readable by the user under which apache runs?  If not, do, "sudo chmod 644 /var/www/index.html" to make it so.10:14
CaptainMorganim in linux.. and on a second a computer...10:14
UniXoiDewe are still suffring with ms10:14
CaptainMorganany suggestions ?10:14
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CaptainMorganXorg is huge10:14
CaptainMorganwhat is it you need ?10:14
phil_CaptainMorgan you mean Xorg is ENgorged?10:14
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CaptainMorgan?10:15
CaptainMorganengorged?'10:15
phil_bad rum drinking bar joke, inappropriate, sorry.10:16
vbgunzI think the samba howto on the wiki is old... Seriously. I am trying to shares a directory with a Windows PC and am in trouble... Windows doesn't see it :( The part on the wiki I am stuck at is it is telling me to *tick enable Windows networking*... That option is not in the networking > general tab :(10:16
CaptainMorganI tried to reconfigure xserver ad it kicked me10:16
phil_How active is UBUNTU development?  Is it just a consumer version of DEBIAN???10:17
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lllmanulllphil_: nope, Ubuntu development is very active indeed10:18
CaptainMorganhelp!?10:18
phil_CaptainMorgan are you drowning?10:18
lllmanulllAnd lots of greate stuff are forwarded upstream to Debian10:18
phil_lllmanulll what do you mean by forwarded upstream?10:18
CaptainMorganyes10:19
CaptainMorganI am10:19
CaptainMorganI can't get linux's gui back10:19
CaptainMorganafter upgrading to breezy10:19
phil_please, never get out of the boat.10:19
CaptainMorganwtf10:19
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phil_run some SARGE release, quite a stable linux.10:19
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CaptainMorganwtf10:20
CaptainMorgancan't I revert back to hoary ???10:20
lllmanulllphil_: Well Debian --> Ubuntu is some kind of stream, isn't it ? :)10:20
phil_World Tranny Federation10:20
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phil_Yeah, but usually the splinters don't give much back to the original distro, huh?10:21
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redguy|workphil_: that is not quite true for ubuntu10:21
CaptainMorganhow do I get x or gui back ?10:22
phil_redguy|work ... for example?  Willing to listen, but?10:22
ullehow do I change from root to non-root user?10:22
lllmanulllphil_: numerous example :)10:22
phil_CaptainMorgan, what's your hardware, weird or pretty serious?10:22
redguy|workphil_: lots of examples, google to find them :-)10:23
phil_ulle use exit in your console/shell/bash10:23
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phil_so debian is better because of ubuntu?10:23
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lllmanulllphil_: We could say that, yeah :)10:24
shivyFInally I did it ... to own and make /var/www writable, ' chmod 775 www' and 'chown root.user www'10:24
redguy|workphil_: not sure that debian people agree in general10:24
lllmanulllBut of course a lot of work is done by Debian developers themselves, needless to say10:24
phil_I like ubuntu.  I roll with it--I recommend it.  But Debian, Debian is tip top.10:24
shivy:)10:24
bimberiubotflu tell phil_ about relationship10:24
phil_So is there some overlap of debian ubuntu development10:24
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: what were the EE messages in Xorg.0.log again ?10:24
rob_pshivy:  Did it work?10:25
phil_bimberi, am I not being cordial?10:25
redguy|workphil_: sure Debian is tip-top, but would you recommend it as a desktop system for people unfamilliar with linux?10:25
CaptainMorganred - there are no EE messages10:25
shivyyes10:25
shivyits writable from user now and seeable directly on the web10:25
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shivy:)10:26
rob_pshivy:  Cool!  Glad to hear it.10:26
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: so what is the last message? no screens found ?10:26
bimberiphil_: ha, you're fine, just pointing you to some info on the ubuntu/debian relationship :)10:26
phil_well, I often think I can recommend it, and get about halfway there and realize, no ... I can't get my retirementage parent up on debian, no way.10:26
redguy|work!tell CaptainMorgan about nicktab10:26
phil_what's nicktab?  Is that like trucker speed?10:27
CaptainMorganwhat's the purpose of nicktab ?10:27
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: so i'll know when you're writing to me10:27
redguy|work!tell phil_ about nicktab10:28
redguy|work:-)10:28
phil_uh, noob here, how does nicktab owrk?10:28
bimberiCaptainMorgan: type redg<tab> in your IRC client and see what happens10:28
bimberiphil_: ^^^10:28
phil_bimberi, are you tring to  ^ control me?10:29
CaptainMorganlast message? last screen says - Fatal server error ..... commands to run... consult the X.org foundatoin.....10:29
CaptainMorganetc10:29
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CaptainMorganredg10:29
CaptainMorganRedGhost,10:29
bimberiphil_: that was my crappy way of saying that my last post could be of interest to you too :)10:29
CaptainMorganredgost??10:29
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phil_sorry for noobescence, I'm very nooboliscious, just learning.10:30
MadpilotCaptainMorgan: if you keep hitting TAB, you should cycle thru all the nicks that start with the letters you've already typed10:30
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redguy|workCaptainMorgan: try redgu<tab> :-)10:30
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phil_CaptainMorgan,  Sheex that works,10:30
bimberiphil_: it's fine10:30
CaptainMorganredgu10:30
CaptainMorganwhat??10:30
CaptainMorganredguy|work,10:31
phil_naw CaptainMorgan  tyupe tab button after a few letters.10:31
MadpilotCaptainMorgan: which IRC app are you using?10:31
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: hooray!10:31
CaptainMorganredgu [MUPPETS] Gonzo10:31
phil_This X-Chat client kicks.10:31
CaptainMorganim in win10:31
redguy|workMadpilot: 'CaptainMorgan: HydraIRC v0.3.151'10:31
redguy|work:/10:31
CaptainMorganhydra10:31
redguy|workat leas it's not mirc10:31
CaptainMorganin linux I use xchat.. but, I CAN'T USE LINUX10:32
phil_CaptainMorgan,  ubuntu will load pretty nicely off a CDR.10:32
CaptainMorganyea, and erase all my work10:32
ulleok so how I get the root user status back on+10:33
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: now that's an idea: boot of a ubuntu live cd10:33
phil_Chief, get one of those free hard disk utilities, and make a 4 gig partition, you'll be up and running.10:33
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CaptainMorganwhat will that accomplish redguy ?10:33
CaptainMorganill lose my work10:33
phil_redguy|work, it's not live it's an installer.10:33
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: and then you can access your logfiles and use pastebin10:33
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redguy|workphil_: there's a live cd as well10:33
Jaymacyou can use the live cd to try out ubuntu apps before installing10:34
phil_redguy|work, sounds like a nice way to go, and no disk erasure/10:34
CaptainMorganwtf!10:34
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: I don't mean installing ubuntu10:34
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CaptainMorganI don't want to TRY THEM OUT10:34
Jaymacno disk erasure10:34
CaptainMorganI want my gui back10:34
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: just boot from a live cd, any will do10:34
CaptainMorganwhy?10:34
phil_CaptainMorgan, this stuff works, I recommend it, I used the suse over two years agao and I never lost anything.10:34
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ajmitchCaptainMorgan: people are trying to help you - the suggestion was to use the live cd to look at the log files10:35
Jaymacalways handy to have aKNOPPIX cd lying around10:35
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: to paste your Xorg.0.log so that we can see what is wrong with your xserver10:35
phil_CaptainMorgan,  I think there is someone here who can solve your problems.10:35
CaptainMorganalright, ill try the live cd...10:35
ulleok so how I get the root user status back on?10:35
CaptainMorgani lose any work, Im dead...10:35
Jaymacwhy do you want to?10:36
Madpilotulle: use sudo10:36
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Jaymaccap a live CD doesn't install anything, so your hard drive is safe10:36
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phil_CaptainMorgan, can you power down and put another hard drive in the machine to futz around with?10:36
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Jaymaccan you not backup your data from a terminal?10:36
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redguy|workCaptainMorgan: *don't install anything*, be sure to use the live cd not the install cd10:37
JaymacI haven't read enough of this conv10:37
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phil_live cd is an OS on a disk, won't scrap with you Hard disks10:37
redguy|workJaymac: he upgraded to breezy and got his xorg borked10:37
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: before you leave, can you tell us how did you upgrade to breezy?10:38
Jaymachappened to me.. was an fglrx issue with my X800XL10:38
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CaptainMorganredguy... apt-get distr-upgrade10:38
phil_Jaymac, is there a developer IRC that CaptainMorgan can get on to get some serious throw down?10:38
redguy|workJaymac: yay!, he's got an ati10:38
JaymacCAptainMorgan.. what's your card?10:38
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CaptainMorganati10:39
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CaptainMorgank, Live is running10:39
CaptainMorganor starting up10:39
vbgunzcan anybody here connect to the following site with Firefox 1.0.7 on Breezy? http://gnome-look.org10:39
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: uhm, and before that? what did you put in your sources.list ?10:39
phil_CaptainMorgan, your Darned FASt.10:39
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phil_Gooden nockt/10:39
GTroyok I need to edit /etc/fstab to auto mount my 2nd hard drive..10:40
vbgunzis http://gnome-look.org down?10:40
JaymacI doubt his issue is the same as mine.. unless he gets this output:10:40
Jaymac""Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem? Yes No""10:40
fh_hi10:40
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CaptainMorgannot sure red... i put something there, then another Guru told me to # it out...my main goal was to get wifi working... I figured what the hell and wanted to upgrade to 5.10 because it has the latest wifi drier which i needed10:40
phil_vbgunz, looks like it is.10:41
vbgunzphil_: it is down?10:41
ullewhat command activates a jar file10:41
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vbgunzphil_: :(10:41
vbgunzI love that site...10:41
bimberivbgunz: can't access from here either10:41
phil_vbgunz, can't get into it ..l otherwise no systems expertise to tell you honestly.10:41
fh_where10:41
fh_what is it10:42
fh_where i am10:42
vbgunzphil_: thats cool... I thought firefox was acting up on me... I had a similar problem with another site just a few minutes ago... maybe the Internet is crashing :P10:42
vbgunzbimberi: thanks for confirming that :)10:42
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: ok, can you paste your sources.list and Xorg.0.log to pastebin now please ?10:42
phil_Uh, I'm on firefox too, so maybe so cyber collision of time continuum.10:42
CaptainMorganworking on it...10:42
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bimberivbgunz: np :)10:43
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GTroycan anyone help me with /etc/fstab10:43
vbgunzbimberi: :)10:43
JaymacCan try10:43
Jaymacwhat's the craic?10:43
Jaymactrying to mount windows hd or what?10:43
redguy|workGTroy: no, at lest not untill you will ask your question10:43
GTroyhehe10:43
GTroysorry10:43
dakeeper56Hi I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 on Asus W3H00A and when i enter the graphics mode i just get like a bunch of vertical stripes can any one help me?10:44
GTroyuhm ext310:44
GTroyno home folder10:44
redguy|workdakeeper56: why not 5.10 ?10:44
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GTroyno partitions on it10:44
dakeeper56dont have it at moment10:44
pldnhmm... does ubuntu have a facility for setting default ls options?10:44
ajmitchGTroy: can you ask it as a question, in a sentence please? it's hard to read otherwise10:44
GTroyhow do I set /etc/fstab to auto mount my 2nd hard drive10:44
JaymacOK10:45
Jaymaccreate a new folder10:45
redguy|workpldn: how about editing ~/.basrc and/or ~/.bash_profile ?10:45
GTroydone10:45
Jaymacin /media, or /mnt10:45
Jaymacor whereever10:45
GTroyit's in /mnt10:45
CaptainMorgani can't get online with the live cd...10:45
Jaymacok10:45
Jaymacext3..10:45
Jaymac2 secs10:45
CaptainMorganhuh ?10:45
pldnredguy|work: hrmm, i think i should rephrase. It seems that on a default ubuntu install, the default ordering in an ls doesnt sort by directories, which is driving me nuts :)10:45
bimberipldn: look for the 'alias ls' in ~/.bashrc10:46
pldnbimberi: im using tcsh, and there are no aliases ;)10:46
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GTroy:D10:46
pldni was just wondering if ubuntu had a control file buried in /etc/ somewhere that had settings for that10:46
Jaymac/dev/hd1 (or whatever) /mnt/mountfolder ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 110:46
bimberipldn: well that's me stymied then :)10:46
Jaymacthat is my output10:47
GTroyok cool10:47
redguy|workpldn: hmmmm, not sure that this can be done without aliases... and yes, I don't know anything about ycsh10:47
CaptainMorgannothing looks at like my setup10:47
Jaymacjust change the hd to point to the right drive, and same for /mnt/folder10:47
CaptainMorganredguy|work how would the Xorg file be same under the live cd as it was with my previous state ?10:47
pldnredguy: well, ls on every other *nix ive used for the last 10 years (including stock debian) always sorts by directories first... this is quite odd10:47
ajmitchJaymac: you really don't need all those mount options10:47
CaptainMorganredguy I can't get online either10:47
JaymacI know.. that was the default.. didnt think i needed to cull them10:47
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: did yo10:48
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: darn did you10:48
redguy|workfriggin mac keyboard!10:48
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JaymacGTroy, you can do it from terminal too... something like: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/newdrive/10:49
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redguy|workCaptainMorgan: what I meant you to do is to boot the live cd on the box you have problems with. then you could access the hard drive and the log files10:49
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redguy|workCaptainMorgan: and paste them to pastebin10:50
ajmitchbimberi: haha10:50
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tuskerninihi there all10:50
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bimberiajmitch: 3am here :(10:50
CaptainMorganredguy, Im not an idiot.. I did boot the live cd on the problem computer.. I can't access any files.. nor can I get online10:50
tuskerninihope you are having a better morning than i am10:50
GTroyjaymac: i know I've done that10:50
ajmitchbimberi: sorry I couldn't do it at a better time10:50
GTroyjust wanted it to be automatic10:50
tuskerninianyone a apache2 guru?10:50
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pldnwhats up tusker?10:51
GTroyhey lilo!10:51
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bimberiajmitch: no apology please - i reckon you maximised your audience :)10:51
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Jaymacso, got it working GTroy?10:51
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Jaymacgood man10:51
GTroyhold on I'll find out10:51
egytracki have something wrong when i try to delete cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder. that folder is trash i try empty trash10:51
tiglionabbitI must use SDL.  What should I #include?10:51
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egytrackcould not empty trash don't know why10:52
CaptainMorganhow do i back up my files... to a cd.. at the commmand line... fuck this, Im going to reinstall hoary this is way too much freakin work for a freakin upgrad10:52
seanDoes anyone have experience installing firefox in ubuntu?10:52
tuskerninipldn, i set u a server and everything worked well until i installed ubuntu un my second hd aswell... now i can not get into my /var/www dir from a browser using my ip adress?10:52
GTroyjaymac: mount point 1 does not exist10:52
tiglionabbitsean: firefox should be on there already, or easily apt-gettable.  Do you mean compiling it?10:52
bimberisean: FF1.5?10:52
sean1.510:52
Jaymacyou've definitely got the locaton of your hard drive right?10:52
bimberi!firefox1510:52
ubotflusomebody said firefox15 was see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org10:52
GTroyI thought....10:53
pldntusker: sounds like a pathing problem... just make sure that apache is still looking in the right place10:53
seanI tried it, and now firefox won't work at all10:53
CaptainMorganhow do I backup my files to cd ?10:53
tuskerniniyou mean port 80?10:53
tuskerninior at 127.0.0.110:53
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pldntusker: no i mean on your filesystem10:53
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pldnmake sure that the files still exist in /var/www or whever your DocumentRoot is10:54
GTroyjaymac: it worked despite the error message10:54
Jaymacyeah.. good stuff10:54
GTroyvery cool many thanks10:54
pldn(please dont privmesg me)10:54
JaymacI get an error like that whenever I put a dvd in10:54
GTroyok cool10:54
Jaymacmount point /media/hdc does not exist10:54
CaptainMorganredguy!?10:54
Jaymacbut the dvd still plays10:54
GTroyyep10:54
Jaymachaven't figured that one out yet ;010:54
Jaymac:)*10:54
GTroycan read all my files10:54
pldnalso, make sure that your apache service is still running10:54
tuskerninipldn, ok... the files do exsist... if i type localhost in the browser bar.. it works10:54
JaymacGreat10:54
ol1I extracted the kubuntu iso image and copied it to an ext3 partition. how can I install from that without burning the cd?10:55
GTroythanks!10:55
pldntusker: okay... whats the problem then?10:55
JaymacNo problem10:55
tuskerniniit is still running... checked10:55
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tuskerninilocalhost... workes...but if i type the IP address.. it does not work...10:55
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seanI have a question.... my ntfs drives read fine, but in boot, it says that mounting local drives failed.... is there any real problem there?10:56
tuskernini80.219.156.216 is my ip...10:56
tuskerninifor now... its not static10:56
cafuego!test10:56
ubotfluFailed.10:56
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tuskerninibut i use no-ip to reroot it10:56
pldntusker: issue `netstat -nl | grep 80`10:56
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pldnis it listening on 0.0.0.0:* ?10:57
egytrackhow i can delete file without send it to trash10:57
pldnerr sorry :8010:57
Jaymacrm -r10:57
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Jaymacsudo rm filename10:57
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cafuegoegytrack: Right click the file, select 'Delete'.10:57
Jaymacor sudo rm -r folder10:57
pldnegytrack: delete anything from the console using rm, or configure gnome to accept a delete that bypasses the trash10:57
tuskerninitcp6 0 0 :::80   :::*   LISTEN10:58
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tuskerniniand lots of unix 2 acc stream listening10:58
egytrackcafuego , right click there is no delete10:58
pldntusker: okay issue `ifconfig -a | grep inet`10:58
CaptainMorganhow do I burn to cd from the command line ??10:58
pldnis the ip you are trying to hit listed in there?10:58
tuskerniniinet addr:192.168.1.4  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.010:59
tuskernini          inet6 addr: fe80::250:daff:fee0:6e0d/64 Scope:Link10:59
tuskernini          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.010:59
tuskernini          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host10:59
alan_?10:59
ajmitchtuskernini: please, don't paste it in here10:59
ol1sean: do you mean from a server install?10:59
tuskerniniok sorry10:59
pldntheres your problem10:59
tuskerniniok im istning?10:59
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pldnnope10:59
egytrackpldn , could not delete with this way11:00
egytracki need to delete folder11:00
Jaymacsudo rm -r folder11:00
pldnrm -rf my/silly/folder11:00
CaptainMorganhow do I burn to cd from the command line ??11:00
CaptainMorganhow do I burn to cd from the command line ??11:00
tuskerninipldn, so how do i fix it?11:00
pldntusker: if that ip you are trying to hit is bound to a router, make sure you have a passthru setup to the box you are trying to serve from11:01
egytrackyes done11:01
egytrackthanks :)11:01
Jaymac:)11:01
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pldntusker: well, bind that ip to an inet4 interface11:01
tuskerninii have a router...11:01
pldnokay11:01
pldnyou need to configure your router to passthru traffic on port 80 (tcp) to your box11:01
tuskerniniok.. i rememer i did it once... but what could have changed it?11:02
pldnbut unless you are running an ipv6 network, you need to get an inet4 address assigned to one of your ethernet devices11:02
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seliniumCaptainMorgan, cdrecord11:02
pldntusker: you probably dont have a ip address on that box... that output you pasted at least suggested that11:02
CaptainMorganhelp11:02
CaptainMorganthat's it?11:02
pldnCaptainMorgan: google is your friend.... use it11:02
CaptainMorgancdrecord ?11:02
VindevogelHi, I have a remote server at an ISP, default with a minimum of packages.  I want to install OpenOffice on it to run some macros (conversions).  OOo needs a display, so I installed Xorg, but I still can't connect to it.11:03
VindevogelWhat packages do I need to install to run an X11 session ?11:03
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CaptainMorgangoogle is not my friend right now11:03
thefishVindevogel: how are you connecting?11:03
seliniumCaptainMorgan, it is the command line for burning CD's. tkae a look at     cdrecord --help     and      man cdrecord11:03
Vindevogelthefish: ssh11:03
thefishVindevogel: use ssh -X11:04
DuoMaxwellHello, anyone here versed in Ubuntu for PPC?11:04
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thefishVindevogel: or you could use sshfs, then do the conversion locally11:04
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ol1CaptainMorgan: cdrecord11:05
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Vindevogelthefish: ssh -X -l root .... does not make a difference, still in shell mode11:05
Vindevogelwhen I'm at the machine, i can't do a "startx"11:05
Vindevogelthe command does not exist11:06
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triple5CaptainMorgan $ > info cdrecord11:06
thefishVindevogel: dont use that! hehe11:06
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egytrackcan i delete all files on tmp folder ?11:06
thefishVindevogel: just start writer11:06
Vindevogelthefish: i cant: "can't connect to display ...."11:06
egytrackall files and folders in tmp folder11:06
DuoMaxwellCan someone please tell me how I can get my iBook late 2001 to see any ubuntu install CD?11:06
thefishand you used ssh -X user@host to connect?11:06
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triple5hase anyone install the systemcall.pl for Xchat?11:07
DuoMaxwellI can mount them on th desktop, but I can't get the damn thing to see it as a boot device11:07
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triple5have a problem which says about xmms: Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC11:08
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JaymacDuoMaxwell: You haven't done what I once did and copied the iso to the disc rather than burned it?  That one made me go a bit red :O11:08
ol1CaptainMorgan: apt-get install cdrecord11:09
JaymacI have no experience with PPC so no clue11:09
Vindevogelthefish: yes, with the -X option11:09
DuoMaxwellI've tried an official CD from ShipIt of 5.04 and the new version I just DLed11:09
ol1how do I move files without copying and deleting?11:09
Jaymacah11:09
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Jaymacright11:09
triple5ol1 use mv11:09
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DuoMaxwellJaymac: Not that new lol11:09
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egytrackis it ok to delete files and folders in /tmp/ folder ???11:10
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triple5any idea about that xmms perl module?11:10
JaymacDuo: I have been using Linux for 4/5 years, and I managed to do that once recently :D11:10
Vindevogelthefish: how do i start an x11 session in the background to connect to ?  maybe connect through vnc ?11:10
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Jaymactriple5, i thought you said it was an xchat module?11:10
DuoMaxwellJaymac: I tried the startup disk prefs, the holding of command C on boot and holding alt on boot to bring up the list of bootable devices11:10
Jaymacwhich is it?11:10
ol1really - can anyone help me with a harddrive install? I used lilo as per instructions in the manual, booted just fine but then the installer still wanted to copy files from the CDROM -- no chance to copy from a location11:10
Jaymactried a live CD?11:11
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DuoMaxwellJaymac, I always use toast11:11
Jaymacto see if it'll pick that up?11:11
triple5yeah it is the xchat module for systemcall but it needs some kind of xmms module in perl...11:11
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DuoMaxwellJaymac: yes, the 5.04 live CD, but it ceased every time halfway through boot11:11
triple5Jaymac...11:11
thefishVindevogel: what runlevel is the remote running in?11:12
thefishi guess its 311:12
thefishmay want to change to 5, but im not sure if that will help11:12
JaymacDuo, has google returned anything interesting?11:13
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Elektrochelovek;] 11:13
DuoMaxwellJaymac: I've tested a few linuxs in the last few months, but I still know nothing of it, but I have managed to boot Linspire 5-0 live CD in VirtualPC11:13
Elektrochelovektake drugs;] 11:13
VindevogelI think 3, which is the default for servers, i guess.  I don't want to change it to 5 because I'm not sure yet if my X starts11:13
DuoMaxwellJaymac: nothing I can make out. I get lost fast in the command line since I haven't used one in like 6+ years11:14
DuoMaxwellJaymac: and that was DOS11:14
Jaymacheh11:14
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freenikis here a (service) bot?11:14
Jaymactoo much cider last night ;)11:15
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JaymacDuo, sorry, I've not had a mac since 1990..11:15
triple5DuoMaxwell: learn the commandline is powerful... use info etc.11:15
CaptainMorgancdrecord wht?11:15
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triple5hi melonipoika, did you get to your problem?11:15
melonipoikahi triple511:15
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bunglehi11:15
melonipoikayes, reinstallin :D i was bored yesterday and i had security copy of my data, so i went ahead :D11:16
triple5...11:16
triple5has anyone got the systemcall.pl module for Xchat working?11:16
melonipoikaby the way, i wanted to ask how can i do a security copy of my configuration before doing any change with synaptic?11:16
DuoMaxwellI know the only way I'ma learn anything is if it's the only way to do it, and while theres the Darwin BSD command line in OS X it's not gonna help me learn anything with all of my OS X apps11:17
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triple5!backup11:17
ubotflutriple5: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:17
CaptainMorganhow do i use cdrecord ?11:17
Jaymacman cdrecord11:17
triple5sorry ubotu...11:17
CaptainMorgancdrecod <what>11:17
CaptainMorgan? man sux11:18
triple5!security11:18
ubotflutriple5: I give up, what is it?11:18
CaptainMorgani can't make sense of the man11:18
Jaymaccdrecord --help11:18
CaptainMorganrightnow11:18
Jaymaci'd imagine it's cdrecord -filename/foldername?11:18
CaptainMorgantried that11:18
melonipoikaisn't it any "restore system" option?11:18
CaptainMorganmelon I wish11:18
CaptainMorganso I tried cdrecord filename but nothing11:19
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CaptainMorganwtf11:19
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CaptainMorganfor two days straight... all this freakin trouble for a freakin upgrade... screw that11:19
ol1Vindevogel: check out  ubuntu lite11:19
melonipoikaso, my problem... i want to update to firefox 1.5. I have done before that changing "breezy" by "dapper" in source.list, i can update it. But the last time i did i had a problem with synaptic after that. So is better not to use this "way" of doing things?11:20
Vindevogelol1: what is ubuntu lite ?11:20
Jaymaci think he means ubuntu live11:20
Jaymac?11:20
Jaymacoh no he doesnt11:21
triple5melonipoika, you don't need to update by synaptic, just use the firefox update11:21
Jaymacholy new website batman11:21
Jaymachttp://www.ubuntulite.org/11:21
DuoMaxwellinteresting11:21
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melonipoikatriple5, how?11:21
JaymacDuo, might be worth a shot11:21
Jaymacwhat are the specs of your imac?11:22
triple5melonipoika go to getfirefox.com11:22
lavender_girlhaiiiiiiiiiii11:22
triple5hi girl11:22
melonipoikathanks11:22
lavender_girl^^11:22
DuoMaxwellJaymac: exactly what I was thinking lol11:22
Vindevogelol1: how will ubuntulite help me with the problem ?11:22
CaptainMorganhow do I find out the scsibus, target and lun of my cddrive ?11:22
triple5melonipoika it isn't that difficult, there is a firefox installer that does all that you need...11:22
DuoMaxwellA girl in a geeky thing like IRC?11:22
JaymacFirefox 1.5: http://www.ubuntulite.org/11:22
Jaymacoops11:22
DuoMaxwellyou're pullin' me11:23
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lavender_girlehmm...actually i'm new here11:23
Jaymacmelonipoika.... http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/11:23
lavender_girlheiii11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
lavender_girlis there anyone who wants 2 chat with me?11:23
melonipoikaok, i'm downloading a ta.bz file now11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
DuoMaxwelllavender girl: a joke11:23
CaptainMorganhelp11:23
JaymacCap'n.. don't flood11:24
melonipoikaJaymac, thanks11:24
Jaymacnp11:24
Jaymacworked like a charm for me11:24
DuoMaxwellCapin' quit drinkin'11:24
CaptainMorganwell, Im drowning11:24
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CaptainMorgani have a dead machine here11:24
lavender_girlheiiiiiiiiiiiiiii11:24
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triple5CaptainMorgan11:25
lavender_girlcan u hear meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee11:25
JaymacCApn11:25
lavender_girlcawawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa11:25
DuoMaxwellDammit, this lite version is for x8611:25
lavender_girlwawawawa11:25
lavender_girlasdjaskd11:25
lavender_girlsadkas11:25
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Jaymachere's a solution11:25
lavender_girlfkasdkf11:25
lavender_girlkdsa11:25
bimberi!ops11:25
ubotfluHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth11:25
lavender_girlfks11:25
Jaymachow much data you got?11:25
lavender_girlakdf11:25
lavender_girlaskdf11:25
Jaymacthat you need to save?11:25
lavender_girlaskdf11:25
triple5lavender_girl, get off it11:25
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Jaymaclavendergirl HUSH11:26
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triple5you will just get a ban...11:26
lavender_girlsdkfdask11:26
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lavender_girl[pksadf[ask11:26
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Mazokulavender_girl please don't flood11:26
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lavender_girlhehe....11:26
triple5get the (_)*&N lavender_girl out of here11:26
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Jaymacthere we go11:26
triple5thanks fabbione11:26
Jaymaccheers11:26
DuoMaxwellperfect11:26
fabbioneno problem11:27
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JaymacDuoMax.. try YDL11:27
JaymacIt's ppc linux11:27
DuoMaxwellJaymac, I thought you had to pay for that one11:27
Jaymaci was pretty sure there was a dl11:27
Jaymachang on11:27
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triple5anyone with the systemcall.pl or a similar script that is working?11:28
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CaptainMorgantriple5 ?11:28
DuoMaxwellJaymac, I know theres quite a few PPC linuxs now, I saw a list not to long ago11:28
LegoManiacHello Ubuntus11:28
triple5ye11:28
JaymacAh crap, it would seem you do have to11:28
triple5Captn11:28
JaymacUbuntu *should* work11:28
Jaymacwhat is your spec?11:29
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LegoManiacanyone here have experience doing a no-media drive (network based) install?11:29
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DuoMaxwelliBook late 2001, the snow model http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=ibook_late_2001&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC11:30
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LegoManiacnet install seems to set the wrong DNS in resolv.conf, where does it pull this from during install?  I dont see a prompt11:31
DuoMaxwellJayman: with a few replacement parts, new HD and the burner of the opaqe iBooks where used via warranty repair11:31
triple5LegoManiac, what is the wrong DNS?11:32
ol1Vindevogel: can you use aptitude?11:32
CaptainMorganhow do i cdrecord directories? it's give me :Is a directory, read error on input file11:32
CaptainMorganand kicks back to %11:32
Jaymaci don't see why it wont work11:32
DuoMaxwellJayman: it may not be stock but it's not non apple, it's got 640Mb ram 30Gb internal and a 250Gb fiwire external11:32
Jaymacthere should be enough juice there11:32
LegoManiacIt sets it to 68.x.x.x, not anywhere near my netblock....not sure where it's getting this IP from11:33
triple5CaptainMorgan: maybe try -r flag to recurse into dir?11:33
Jaymaccapn morgan try cdrcord directory/*11:33
DuoMaxwellJayman, yeah, it's on par with like a P4 1.2ish system with the same everything else11:33
LegoManiacthis causing it to fail package installation (stage 2), since it can't find apt sources11:33
thefishVindevogel: how many files do you want to convert, and what is the conversion from/to??11:34
CaptainMorganno11:34
CaptainMorganwont' work11:34
Jaymacwhich one?11:34
CaptainMorgan"/* and -r"11:34
Jaymacoutput?11:35
Jaymacsame?11:35
CaptainMorganbad option -r11:35
triple5CaptainMorgan: is there a config file for cdrecord I get output from --usage that says: cdrecord file1...filen11:35
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JaymacDuo.. I really dont know what the problem is11:35
CaptainMorgan"/* attempts to write.... but then stops...11:35
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CaptainMorganwith /* it's error is "is a directory, read error on input file11:36
Jaymactry dir/*.11:36
ol1Vindevogel: if you read abuot it, you might get some tips about how to install packages the hard way to get your xserver running11:36
Jaymacsorry11:36
Jaymacdir*.*11:36
Jaymacin case its trying to write directories inside that one?11:37
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Jaymacdirectory/*.*11:37
Jaymacbah kb playing up11:37
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CaptainMorganhm... dir/*.* seems to be working... I think it's checking tracks right now...11:38
DuoMaxwellJaymac: no prob man, I'll try some other stuff, maybe that homwbre of slackware for Macs Slackintosh will boot this thing11:38
CaptainMorganthanks Jaymac11:38
Jaymacnp11:38
ol1Vindevogel: you'll need xserver-xorg, xserver-common, etc. etc.11:38
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Jaymacposiby11:38
Jaymacif you find a distro that works. drop in and let me know :)11:38
Jaymacor ifyou figure it out i'd love to know too11:38
DuoMaxwellHeh, I will try and keep you posted11:39
JaymacCApn.. for future reference for myself... what was the exact command you typed in?11:39
Jaymaccdrecord -directory/*.*11:39
ol1lavender_girl: have you tried the voodoo lounge????11:39
DuoMaxwellif all else fails I am saving up for a new powermac, maybe I'll orderone with YDL preinstalled11:39
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JaymacDuo, ubuntu will run on one do not fear11:40
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CaptainMorganI checked the cd.. nothing was written to it11:40
Jaymac:)11:40
CaptainMorgandir/*.* only checked tracks..11:40
Jaymacoh11:40
CaptainMorgan"cdrecord dir/*.*"11:40
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Jaymacmaybe11:41
Jaymacis there a write flag?11:41
Jaymaclike cdrecord -w dir/*.*11:41
ol1CaptainMorgan: what your looking for is called a "front end" for cdrecord - to get off the command line. if you have gnome you can try gnomebaker11:41
Jaymacor something?11:41
Jaymacoli, he has no X11:41
Jaymacol1*11:41
DuoMaxwellJaymac: I haven't tried Kubuntu, I wonder if it may work, but I think I heard that KDE doesn't handle older systems to good11:42
triple5I read: Mkisofs turns a directory structure on your filesystem into the ISO9660 filesystem for CDs.11:42
Jaymacif ubuntu doesnt work i would fall off my stool if kubuntu does11:42
ol1Jaymac: i had to do that because I couldn't stat any packages from the internet repositories.11:42
DuoMaxwellJayman: and an ATI Rage 8Mb is pretty damn weak in the graphics department11:42
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DuoMaxwellhaha11:43
ol1DuoMaxwell: are you using gnome?11:43
CaptainMorganomg11:43
Jaymacwork?11:43
CaptainMorganI am so screwed11:43
Jaymacwhy11:43
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ilba7rduomaxwell have you tried openbox or fluxbox11:43
DuoMaxwelloll, I'm on a Mac, so no, I'm using aqua11:43
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CaptainMorganuhm.. because I ahve so much on there that i can't access...?11:43
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CaptainMorgancan't get X back, can't burn to cd11:43
andy108hi all11:43
ilba7rduomaxwell also for old sys with limited resources daminsmalllinux is good choice too11:44
CaptainMorganwtf am I to do?11:44
Jaymacstick a hard drive in, mount it, copy everything across11:44
CaptainMorganbeside a clean install11:44
CaptainMorgan?11:44
CaptainMorgannot that easy11:44
wildmanhello *11:44
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Jaymacwhat is the problem with X anyway, I came in too late11:44
CaptainMorganI upgrade to breezy... since, X won't work11:44
Jaymacyeah11:44
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Jaymacdo you get any output from X?11:44
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Jaymacor do you just get dumped at the terminal11:45
DuoMaxwellilba7r: yes, I know all about DSL, I tried it on an old 486, but thats x8, I'm trying to use PPC here11:45
CaptainMorganno.... just command line11:45
CaptainMorganyes - terminal11:45
andy108want to know how to keep wireless icon from dissappering from network panel, everytime I log in must do modprobe and enable wireless properties11:45
Jaymacok, and if you type startx.. what happens11:45
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camerlingis anybody use asterisk pbx under ubuntu ?11:45
ilba7rok11:45
CaptainMorganfatal IO error 10411:45
CaptainMorganconnection reset by peer11:45
CaptainMorganon X server11:45
CaptainMorgan0.011:45
Jaymacok11:46
triple5finally: CaptainMorgan:   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-2.html found this11:46
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JaymacI got a similar error11:46
LegoManiacis "Add Applications" util just synaptic renamed?11:46
senectuswhere does evolution keep all it's profile settings and mail.box ??11:46
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triple5no lego11:46
Jaymacit's simplified synaptic pretty much lego.. but it isnt synaptic11:46
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LegoManiac"Add Applications" then is some sort of package bundle manager?11:47
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JaymacCaptainMorgan, I have something you could try11:48
CaptainMorganall ears11:48
Jaymacit's a graphics thing11:48
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Jaymacdo you have the fglrx driver for your ati?11:48
samu2where do you change the sensible-browser ?11:48
asoltenWhat is the correct way to install emacs under ubuntu ?? I Can't find it in Synaptic.11:48
redguy|worksamu2: update-alternatives perhaps ?11:49
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CaptainMorganno11:49
Jaymacok11:49
Jaymacsudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx11:49
odathi everyone11:49
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LegoManiacsorry for the newbie questions, first look at ubuntu here11:49
odathas anyone gotten gstreamer and totem to play windows streaming media?11:50
ilba7rduomaxwell just curious you have mac right so why switch to linux11:50
LegoManiacodat: use vlc-mozilla11:50
pc22cant find w32codec11:50
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odatLegoManiac, won't vlc overide gstreamer?11:50
Jaymacpc22.. check the ubuntu forums11:50
pc22i did wiki11:51
DuoMaxwellilba7r: nothing else better to do for one and 2, I kinda blew up the P411:51
Jaymacyou can get it from ubuntu plf11:51
LegoManiacodat: ya, i think it uses xine11:51
pc22but its not work11:51
Jaymacrepositories11:51
odatpc22,  go to apt-get.org and do a search for w32 and add the repository to synaptic11:51
barosldoes QT use embolden?11:51
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pc22thanks11:51
odatLegoManiac, i am trying to keep gstreamer since everything points to gstreamer becoming the standard11:52
CaptainMorgansame friggin output - "This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the J2sdk doc. You will need to go the download onr of the archives at <address> choose verison, Please visit <address> now and download copy to /tmp. press return to try again. "no" an return to abort11:52
ilba7rduomaxwell ok for my next question for i am still weighing the cons and pros of pc with linux on it or a mac. how do you compare both.11:52
CaptainMorganI try return and it does nothing.11:52
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CaptainMorganI can't visit the sites well, because I can't access a browser11:52
ol1odat:  I used mplayer11:52
LegoManiacodat: i had problems viewing gamespot's site, had to install totem-xine and vlc-mozilla, after taht all the web stuff worked flawless11:52
asoltenHi all... What is the correct way to install emacs under ubuntu ?? I Can't find it in Synaptic.11:53
DuoMaxwellilba7r: 3rd would be that I can't always switch ppl to Macs, so I figured learn linux, Ubuntu and Linspire whenever I get the PC going again so I can support their switching11:53
thefishVindevogel: if you are just converting docs, I would not recommend installing OOo, just a script, there are many available11:53
senectuswhere does evolution keep all it's profile settings and mail.box ??11:53
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Jaymacsudo apt-get install emacs2111:53
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wildmanquestion: I've added 'keychain' to my ~/.bash_profile to have it ask me for my ssh/gpg passphrases the 1st time I open a terminal window, so I can forget about them later.... but it isn't asking me for my passphrases and each time I try to use ssh I get prompted for it, this wasn't happening in Mandriva2006, any ideas?11:54
CaptainMorganJaymac, driver didn't install...11:54
CaptainMorganI guess11:54
Jaymacok11:54
odatLegoManiac, hmmm it just seems since gstreamer became the standard for ubuntu that its what is going to be supported the most11:54
redguy|workasolten: how about emacs21 ?11:54
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wildmansenectus: ~/.evolution/ IIRC11:54
burepe2I have a network problem. I cannot detect my ubuntu comp with my windows comp. Any suggestions?11:54
DuoMaxwellilba7r: comparing the same os on 2 arcatectures? I'm pretty sre it'd be trasnparent to the user like the difference between IDE and SATA, Intel vs AMD and ATI vs nVidia11:54
wildmanburepe2: can u ping it at least? (ping IP_Ubuntu_computer from windows)11:55
asoltenWhere do I get emacs21??11:55
Jaymaccaptainmorgan.. echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules11:55
Jaymacjust to see if it is there or not11:55
pc22what about java on website? they wont play. what package do i download? its differnet in breezy11:55
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LegoManiacodat: totem plugin for mozilla isn't up to par yet, imo11:56
CaptainMorganJaymac, yep.. it returns with "fglrx"11:56
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ilba7rduomaxwell for me i have to do the comparision for the cost. I know apple is much more stable but i am mainly worried about its running cost and its upgrade11:56
Jaymachttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 CaptainMorgan.. try this11:56
Jaymacoh it does? great11:56
Jaymacignore that url for a sec11:56
redguy|workasolten: it should be in your synaptics11:56
pc22odat11:56
asfrahi, i'm still runnig hoary here, and my machine won't hibernate, will it work when i install breezy?? thanks :)11:56
redguy|workasolten: what does sudo apt-get install emacs21 say?11:56
john_351burepe2, try typing in terminal 'sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc11:57
john_351'11:57
Jaymacsudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf CaptainMorgain... enter that11:57
DuoMaxwellilba7r: while there may be some difference to the trained geek, I doubt that joe 6 pack will care much so long as he has email and ready access to his free p0rn pix11:57
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asoltenIt could'nt find the package.11:57
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odatpc22,  yea11:57
Jaymacok asolten...11:57
asoltenand I can't find it in synaptic11:57
Jaymachave you enabled all the repositories?11:57
pc22what about java on website? they wont play. what package do i download? its differnet in breezy11:57
redguy|work!tell asolten about nicktab11:57
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redguy|workJaymac: emacs is in the main repo11:58
Jaymacthats what i thought yeah11:58
CaptainMorganjaymac: returns sudo only one of the options may be used11:58
Jaymacso why doesnt synaptic pick it up11:58
Jaymacthen captain11:58
redguy|workasolten: hmm, then try sudo apt-get update11:58
Jaymacjust go11:58
CaptainMorganwait.. I forget sed11:58
ilba7rduomaxwell lol. For me i just need stable system that will support my programming. I do a lot of numerical analysis and simulation. I got the impression that mac is best suited for multimedia which is not my concern at all11:58
Jaymacsudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:58
Jaymacscroll down to11:58
redguy|workasolten: and then sudo apt-get install emacs2111:58
CaptainMorganok.. after sudo sed ..... it returns11:58
CaptainMorganwith nothing11:59
odatpc22, do you have all your possible repositories open?11:59
redguy|work!tell pc22 about java11:59
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DuoMaxwellilba7r: TCO? you gotta add the microsoft tax on any store bought PC, that and the tons of useless software they come with, the cost of time securing and teaching joe sixpac about windows security and why he shouldn't open those attachments11:59
pc22yes i did11:59
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asoltenredguy|work, thaks and sorry ... i'm qiute the newbee...11:59
CaptainMorgan[06:01]  <Jaymac> sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf CaptainMorgain... enter that << return nothing11:59
JaymacCAptain... edit your xorg.conf with whatever11:59
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Sleepwalkerhi11:59
CaptainMorganwhatever ?11:59
ilba7rduomaxwell lol.11:59
dragoonanything12:00
redguy|workasolten: no problem this is the right place to ask newbie questions12:00
Jaymaccaptain it shouldnt bring back anything12:00
dragoonnano or something12:00
Jaymacuse nano12:00
odatpc22, do you have all the multiverse repositories open too?12:00
asoltenredguy|work, and orvious not very good at spelling... ;)12:00
Sleepwalkerim searching for a good prog. where i can open .bin files12:00
pc22yes12:00
Jaymacsudo nano -w /ec/11/xorg..conf12:00
dragoonsudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:00
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asfrashould hibernate work by default in breezy? (yes or no is adequate:)12:00
Jaymacya.. sorry for my lame typing :)12:00
dragoonheh12:00
CaptainMorganalright, Im in nano12:00
redguy|workasolten: huh? you misspelled emacs21 ?12:00
JaymacCap, scroll down to the following section12:00
ilba7rasfra depend on your hardware12:01
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ilba7rasfra do you have a notebook or a laptop12:01
JaymacSection "Device"12:01
Jaymac        Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X800 XL (R430 UM)"12:01
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Jaymacthen CaptainMorgan, below that check the driver..12:01
Jaymacit should say fglrx12:01
DuoMaxwellilba7r: while I'm no programmer I've heard from those who are that MAcs are pretty bad ass when it come to crunching numbers, on a forum like Broadband reports the guys running Macs on that distributed computing app are creaming the guys running anything else12:01
ilba7rasfra do you have a notebook or a pc12:01
CaptainMorganJaymac it does12:01
Jaymacok12:01
Jaymacexit12:01
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JaymacCtrl + X12:02
asfrailba7r, i have a 'laptop' with p4 processor12:02
Jaymactry and startx12:02
asfrailba7r, what hardware does it depend on?12:02
ilba7rasfra ok give me a min12:02
CaptainMorganJaymac.. my screen went blank.......................12:02
ufkhiya, i compiled kernel 2.6.14.3 from sources, rebooted and i get lots of errors that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6.14.3/modules.dep, but the file is there. any ideas?12:02
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Jaymacas in sort of whitegrey12:03
senectusfor some reason i have no sound in Gnome but I have sound in GDM... any idea's why?12:03
Jaymacthat is progress12:03
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ilba7rasfra ok look at this link and see what is the support status of your notebook https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops12:03
CaptainMorganat first - for like a split second... its now stark black and is staying that way12:03
Jaymachmm12:03
odatpc22, then do a search in synaptic for java find the one that says j2re1.4 mozilla plugin and install it and all its dependces12:03
Jaymacreboot the machine12:03
asfrailba7r, thanks alot!!12:03
Jaymacdont worry nothing we're doing is putting your files at further risk12:03
ilba7rasfra you are welcomed12:03
burepe2wildman: I can ping the ip address but not the comps name12:04
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wildmanburepe2: then u have DNS bad setup on the network, a quick solution is to add the machine to windows hosts file12:04
ilba7rduomaxwell how about the running cost of mac. Frankly i went to a mac store to buy one and the guys there did not even know abc how to run even pages12:04
wildmanburepe2: find 'hosts' on windows, open it with notepad and add a line stating the IP and the hostname for the ubuntu machine, save it and try to ping again12:05
ilba7rduomaxwell i was so frustrated they all have window lol so how come they are sales representatives?12:05
burepe2How do I do that?12:05
wildmanburepe2: read what I've just wrote12:05
burepe2oh12:06
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burepe2If I do that and dhcp changes the ip it will be messed right?12:06
Jaymacyup12:06
redguy|workburepe2: yup12:06
wildmanyes12:06
redguy|workhah12:06
Jaymac:)12:06
wildmanthat fix only works for fixed IPs ;)12:07
asoltenredguy|work, I tried "sudo-apt get update"... and install still failed...12:07
wildmanburepe2: ask ur network admin to fix DNS then (if it's u, u'll have to do some reading, I'm no DNS expert either ;))12:07
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M4r1u5hello12:08
ol1Jaymac: any hints on how to install from an iso image without burning the CD?12:08
DuoMaxwellilba7r, I wouldn't exspect the store clearks to know anything in the same way I wouldn't trust the car dealer to know one engine from another12:08
wildmanburepe2: BTW, dhcp allows you to set it up in a way that it always assigns the same IP to a machine (based on the machine's NIC MAC address)12:08
burepe2I want a static ip, but when I tried to do it the static ip the net and the network got all messed12:08
Jaymacol1.. excuse me?12:08
wildmanburepe2: read me above again ;)12:08
M4r1u5anyone know how to make my gnome like macOS12:08
redguy|workwildman: if you're the network admin consider using dnsmasq, i'ts pretty easy to configure12:08
CaptainMorganJaymac... Im completely screwed now... I reboot and it does it's thing.. when done.. Im in complete darkness... no terminall. nothing12:09
M4r1u5including that mac bottom bar and themes12:09
Jaymacctrl alt backspace12:09
wildmananyone remembers my keychain question?12:09
Jaymacno12:09
wildmanI'll ask it again12:09
DuoMaxwellilba7r: best thing to do is experiment, the apple store is very liberal in what you do, when the G5 came out they let me install every application I had to test them out on it12:09
wildmanquestion: I've added 'keychain' to my ~/.bash_profile to have it ask me for my ssh/gpg passphrases the 1st time I open a terminal window, so I can forget about them later.... but it isn't asking me for my passphrases and each time I try to use ssh I get prompted for it, this wasn't happening in Mandriva2006, any ideas?12:09
wildmanthere12:09
ilba7rduomaxwell the other thing make me wonder is why someone with tiger osx would like to run linux lol. I seen a lot here12:09
CaptainMorganctrl atl backspace does nothing12:10
Jaymaccan you not boot ubuntu in recovery mode?12:10
CaptainMorgancomps running.... no screet12:10
piyosanhay algun espaol?12:10
CaptainMorganok... I CAN get to Grub12:10
CaptainMorganwant me to do that ?12:11
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Jaymacya12:11
asoltenWhat programsources should I have under Synaptic... I only seem to have "CD Ubuntu 5.10" Should'nt there be an url?12:11
Jaymacasolten12:11
Jaymacthere should be several urls12:11
DuoMaxwellilba7r, I'm not running tiger, only at 10.2.8. I'm a bit of an electronics handyman and thus asked to fix wintels, I've switched a few to Macs, but not all want to buy a new machine. So I figure my best bet is to learn linux so I can teach them12:11
Jaymac:)12:11
ilba7rYah they did not object when i was playing around with the software. But at least i was expecting better support from them. Window I do not use anymore so i really do not care if a pc run window or not. But running cot performance and stability is number one12:11
liableerr, does ubuntu do apt-setup??12:11
Jaymacsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:11
Jaymacthen uncomment all the urls12:11
Sleepwalkerneed a prog to open .bin files12:12
Jaymacthen save and sudo apt-get update12:12
Sleepwalkeranny help ??12:12
CaptainMorganJay you talking to me ?12:12
Jaymacsleepwalker.. why not ./file.bin12:12
asoltenJaymac, now were getting somwwhere ;)12:12
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ilba7rduomaxwell thanx for all your help and information12:12
Jaymacsorry that was to asolten CaptainMorgan12:12
CaptainMorganwhich kernel for recovery ? 6 or 5 ?12:12
redguy|workSleepwalker: what kind of .bin files?12:12
Jaymacshouldnt matter12:12
netventureasolten:12:12
ilba7rduomaxwell by the way did you know that IBM guys prefer mac lol. I was just reading an article on that12:12
netventureyou can check out Settings -> Repositories in Synaptic12:13
netventurethere is an option to add the universe and multiverse sections12:13
DuoMaxwellilba7r: if you wanna try you're had at the comand line in OS X just open terminal under utilities in the applications folder or you can do it hardcore in single user mode by restarting the Mac and holding command s I think12:13
Jaymactrue.. but the command line is more fun :D12:13
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CaptainMorgannot to mention efficient... but some clients want visuals12:14
netventurejaymac: true12:14
Jaymacplus it's always handy to do things in the commandline, that way you know what is where and how they are actually working12:14
ol1Sleepwalker: unzip12:14
CaptainMorganwhy is always hanging at the Starting NIS servics: ypbind Binding to YP server... ?12:15
DuoMaxwellilba7r that will boot you to just the darwin BSD terminal with no OS X ontop. IBM should be using Macs, they make the G5 chips lol, it's based off their Power4(?) server chips12:15
JaymacDuo12:15
Jaymacthey dont make chips for apple any more12:15
Sleepwalkerthat easy oli ?12:15
Sleepwalkeraem ol112:16
Sleepwalker:)12:16
ol1Sleepwalker: yupers.12:16
Sleepwalkercan you zip it back to a bin ??12:16
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DuoMaxwellJaymac: Since when? How much did I miss since I've been working this job where I have no time?12:16
Sleepwalkerwanna change files inside a bin12:16
Jaymacapple announced the switch months ago12:16
YukiIkyutaDuoMaxwell, it's true; the Apple chips are discontinued.12:16
ilba7rduomaxwell some argued that mac is dieing architect as they will switch to pentium based processors if i remember correctly12:17
DuoMaxwellJaymac: What? the switch to intel?12:17
DuoMaxwellJayman: those things are still in development, I know a guy running a dev box12:17
Jaymachttp://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html12:17
ol1Sleepwalker: bins are usually called "self-extracting archives"when I've seen them to download. so just extract it with unzip and then do whatever you want, but use a more creative utility to repack, like bzip or whatever12:17
CaptainMorganJaymac Recovery goes to a blank screen too12:18
ol1Sleepwalker: you could even use midnight commander if you can figure it out12:18
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Jaymacol1, can't you just go ./<filename>.bin12:18
Sleepwalkerk thx 4 da help :)12:18
Jaymacto unpack ti12:18
tuskerninihi there all, what is wrong if i can not telnet my apache2 server ip port 80 from my command prompt?12:18
asoltenJaymac, thanks ! now I can find all the packages !12:18
melonipoikahi all12:18
melonipoikai have a small problem with my wireless card12:19
Jaymacasolten, go to the ubuntu forums and search for backports12:19
ol1Jaymac: I've tried that but it doesn't always work12:19
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Jaymacso you can get packages not supported by the ubuntu team12:19
JaymacCaptain.. erm12:19
melonipoikai need to activate it each time i reboot12:19
ilba7rmelonipoika what kind of trouble12:19
Jaymacyou need a live cd12:19
ol1Jaymac: have you had any success with mc on kernel 2.6?12:19
melonipoikai have installed it with ndiswrapper, and it is working fine12:19
CaptainMorganJaymac, got one12:19
ilba7rmelonipoika you can open the file /etc/network/interfaces12:20
Jaymacknoppix12:20
Jaymacis the best12:20
melonipoikathen i used kwifimanager to configure it12:20
melonipoikaok, moment12:20
CaptainMorganbut I tried Ubuntus Live CD... but i couldn't access any of my folder or files12:20
rosenI have spent a really long time trying to fix my libxml-lixml-perl .. I was told yesterday that there was a guide on the wiki about how I upgrade (or reinstall) it ... but I cannot seem to find it .. any advice or can anyone point me in the right direction ?12:20
ilba7rmelonipoika sudo kwrite /etc/network/interfaces if you have kde12:20
Jaymactry knoppix12:20
CaptainMorganme?12:21
Jaymacya12:21
DuoMaxwellJayman and YkiIkyuta: like I said, the current chips are still IMB, OSX86-64 is still months off at best, the stuff thats been seen it about as stable as win98 and I'm not talkin' SE12:21
melonipoikai have gnome, but i isntalled kubuntu-desktop as well, jsut to try12:21
melonipoikaok, i'm there12:21
asoltenJaymac, where, what ?? sorry...12:21
Jaymachang on asolten12:21
melonipoikaat the end i have auto wlan012:21
ilba7rmelonipoika ok you should have one and only one auto wlan012:21
rosennoone have any idea how I can upgrade or reinstall libxml ?12:21
CaptainMorganlink ?12:22
lockheadwhat's the default username /passwd for webmin?12:22
melonipoikai have only one auto wlan0, but i also have auto eth0...12:22
ilba7rmelonipoika if you have a line auto eth0 delete or comment it for it is the causing the trouble12:22
melonipoikaah, ok12:22
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ol1Jaymac: can you install Knoppix from a harddrive?12:22
ilba7rand leave the lo12:22
CaptainMorganHow do i know what's live? http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html12:23
Mr_MilenkoLast time i used knoppix you could install it12:23
Mr_Milenkoyes12:23
dooglusrosen: what's up?12:23
melonipoikaand how do i configure the wireless with gnome? i had to use kwifimanager to set ad-hoc12:23
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rosenoh hey dooglus ... I'm having problem with libxml-libxml-perl errormessages12:23
melonipoikai didn't find that option in system, network...12:23
Jaymacasolten p,12:23
ol1Jaymac: howbout openBSD?12:23
Jaymacpm*12:23
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munzirHi sirs, in synaptic there are many disabled repo. would enabling all of them cause some conflicts?12:23
Jaymacnever used bsd12:23
ilba7rmelonipokia there is one for the network12:24
rosendooglus, and then yesterday some fellow advised me to upgrade my libxml using a guide on wiki ... so I searched .. and searched .. and....12:24
dooglusrosen: what are the messages?12:24
CaptainMorgannevermind.. they're all live12:24
ilba7rgive me amin to load the gnome-panel12:24
rosendooglus, sec I'll find them again12:24
asoltenJaymac, p ? I'm a little clueless... hehe12:24
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DuoMaxwellJayman and YkiIkyuta: Also you guys did know that Intel already has made chips for Apple,l they allong with IBM made G3 chips for things like my current iBook12:24
Jaymacprivate ,essahe12:24
ilba7rmelonipokia system>administration>networking and you might run configure12:25
Jaymacyeah intel have been making apple chips since like 2002 right?12:25
Mr_MilenkoI like tacos12:25
Mr_Milenko:)12:25
Jaymacor even before?12:25
Jaymacasolten, check your private message..12:25
DuoMaxwellJayman and YkiIkyuta: I think that was announced in MW '9912:25
Jaymacah12:25
melonipoikayes, it is asking for the essid, wep, and all that... but not for ad-hoc, or managed...12:25
CaptainMorganJaymac which do I download: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/knoppix/ ?12:25
rosendooglus, after I use sudo apt-get upgrade for example I get this return12:25
rosenlibxml-sax-perl12:25
rosen libxml-libxml-perl12:25
rosen libxml-simple-perl12:25
rosenE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:25
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asoltenJaymac, have not gotten one ??12:26
rosenwell and alot of other things :O12:26
ilba7rmelonipokia you have to write managed by hand you are right12:26
melonipoikashould i write that also in interfaces?12:26
dooglusrosen: are you registered with nickserv?12:26
Mr_MilenkoCaptain: Download Knoppix (the distro itself is the live cd) and depending on your computers architecture12:26
melonipoikaok, so what should i write for ad-hoc?12:26
Mr_MilenkoId say go with x86 if its listed?12:26
ilba7rmelonipoka but wep key is already there12:26
Jaymacdownload the english version of course :)12:26
melonipoikayes, it is12:26
Mr_Milenkothat too12:26
rosendooglus, I'll do that ... now whee did I (mis)place my password12:27
ilba7rmelonipoka am not familiar with adhoc?12:27
Mr_MilenkoKnoppix is awesome CaptainMorgan12:27
Jaymacasolten.. ok12:27
dooglusrosen: alternatively, could you put the whole thing on pastebin12:27
Jaymachow do you use pastebin?12:27
dooglus!paste12:27
melonipoikaah, ok12:27
ubotfluit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:27
Mr_Milenkofirst live debian based disr besides debian itself that i ever used.. nicely configured too :)12:27
CaptainMorganftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/knoppix/12:27
CaptainMorganwhich one?12:27
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rosen!paste12:27
CaptainMorganthere's MaNY12:27
melonipoikathanks, i will see if i find where to set up ad-hoc by default12:27
redguy|workMr_Milenko: there is a debian live cd?12:27
dooglusrosen: that is a way of asking the bot to tell you the pastebin URL12:27
DuoMaxwellJaymac: whats baffeled me is that I remember seeing that Apple and IBM worked with AMD on the Athlon64 and I wouldn't mind seeing a dual core Optron running OS X, hell even Sun is using them12:28
CaptainMorganen.iso or en.iso.m5, or ?12:28
Mr_Milenkonot to my knowledge12:28
rosendooglus, ah allright I'll try12:28
Mr_Milenkoi ment Knoppix was the first deb based distro i used12:28
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: what knoppix would do you most propably can do with ubuntu live cd12:28
rosen!paste12:28
ubotflupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:28
Mr_Milenkobesides debian itself12:28
Mr_Milenkoredguy: wrong.12:28
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Mr_MilenkoKnoppix comes pre-loaded with wine, extra tools for system repair, couple games12:29
CaptainMorganI tried Ubuntu LIve - I can't access any of my files12:29
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CaptainMorganor the net12:29
Mr_Milenkoand a bunch of other stuff12:29
Mr_Milenkoalso knoppix auto-mounts harddrives12:29
Mr_Milenko:D12:29
Mr_Milenkogood system restore cd12:29
redguy|workMr_Milenko: oh.. didn't use the ubuntu live cd...12:29
Jaymacasolten check pastebin12:29
Mr_Milenkoyeah.. ubuntu live is just the basic ubuntu install on a cd12:29
Mr_Milenko:(12:29
redguy|workMr_Milenko: thought that ubuntu would auto mount harddrives too12:29
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rosendooglus, I pasted it all in #flood12:30
Mr_Milenkodidnt for me i might be wrong12:30
rosendooglus, I think this   Can't locate object method "save_parsers_debian" via package "XML::SAX" at /usr/bin/update-perl-sax-parsers line 90.    is the first error12:30
dooglusrosen: that's no good if I'm not there at the time, like I wasn't...12:30
ilba7rcaptainMorgan i am not sure if your filesystem is mounted when you use livecd12:30
bigfoot1guys, how can i view windows media movie files and apple quicktime movie files within firefox 1.5?12:30
rosendooglus, heheh12:30
JaymacI have to run... need food12:30
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dooglusI'm there now though.  could you paste againn?12:30
CaptainMorganomg... 2hour download!? WTF12:30
Jaymacbigfoot.. .mov and linux dont play well12:30
Mr_MilenkoKnoppix auto mounts file systems12:30
ilba7rcaptainMorgan and if you are using a wireless than most probably you need a ndiswrapper12:31
Mr_Milenkoit scans on boot for harddrives12:31
bigfoot1Jaymac, i can play .mov files if i download them first12:31
Jaymacgotta riun, good luc Catai Morgan12:31
Jaymaci can play them in xine12:31
Jaymacbut not in browser12:31
asoltenJaymac, I'm really sorry but im quite a newbie... I don't know what you mean : pastebin or backports?12:31
Jaymac!paste12:31
ubotfluit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:31
ilba7rcaptainMorgan or a softmodem so you will need special driver which is not included in the base installation12:31
Jaymacgo to that url asolten12:31
Jaymacand search for my name12:31
dooglusrosen: I'm wondering if this is because you installed some of the Perl modules manually.12:31
CaptainMorganndiswrapper/???? will you people please make up your mind? was I needed madwifi for my atheros12:31
ilba7rcaptainMorgan sorry did not know you have atheros12:32
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Mr_Milenkothis channel gets confusing... just reading stuff in here makes me pop a couple tylenol lol12:32
CaptainMorganMr_Milenko!h ahaah!12:32
CaptainMorganOn my fourth valium12:32
CaptainMorganalready12:32
Mr_Milenkorofl12:32
rosendooglus, I dont think I did.. I only used synaptic, automatix and the mail-script to install anything12:32
Mr_Milenkoi slipped on some ice the other day... broke my ass (litterally)12:33
Mr_Milenko:-/12:33
Mr_Milenkodoc gave me some vics12:33
Mr_Milenkomuahaha12:33
Mr_Milenkoanyone.. back on topic12:33
rosenbut I got the same error when I installed checkgmail12:33
Mr_Milenkoanyway*12:33
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dooglusrosen: you told me before that you started working through the first post at the ubuntuforums site, running stuff like "libxml-libxml-perl"12:33
dooglusum.12:33
dooglusstuff like "sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'"12:33
Jaymacone thing before i go12:33
Jaymaccaptain, got any other computers running linux?12:33
CaptainMorganno12:33
Jaymacforget that idea then12:34
CaptainMorganlinux comp is my main comp12:34
Jaymaci'll be back in a while.. hope you get it sorted12:34
_nullHow do I build debian packages?12:34
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rosendooglus, no, I tried to find a guide on wiki but I could only find short posts about xml that I didnt understand at all12:34
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rhubearAnyone running Ubuntu successfully on SMP (OPteron)??12:35
CaptainMorgangoing on three days.... almost straight... all i wanted to do was fix the wifi.... but noooooooo. I completely fook up my whole system rendering it inoperable...12:35
rosendooglus, the only thing I could have done to screw anything up I think is playing with the repositories and I got the error before that aswell12:35
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bimberiubotflu tell _null about packaging12:36
dooglusrosen: did you not say: 02:25 < rosen> this is the command that's giving me issues 02:25 < rosen> sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'12:36
ilba7rcaptinmorgan i do not know your hardware but had similar problem can you connect to the net through a wired interface eth12:36
asoltenJaymac, I finaly found it thanks!12:36
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CaptainMorganliba - no12:37
rosendooglus, ooh but thats a line from the checkgmail script isnt it ?12:37
CaptainMorganI can't even can a screen - it's black12:37
CaptainMorgancant' even get a screen...12:37
DuoMaxwellWhats the difference between the Gentoo Universal install CD and the package CD? The package CD just apps?12:37
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rosendooglus, I havent really done anything but copy/pasting at this time ... since I have no idea what I'm doing :P12:37
ilba7rcaptinmorgan did you play with the kernel modules>12:38
dooglusrosen: that's a line from the forum about how to install checkgmail - but it's stupid.  you should use apt-get to install stuff, not "sudo perl -MCPAN".  That's what I tried to point out in my followup post.12:38
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CaptainMorganliba.. not that I recall... I only wanted to upgrade to breezy12:38
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rosenooh12:39
CaptainMorganso what can I do with the live cd - ubuntus.... I can't access any files... nor can I get net access like I could before12:39
ilba7rcaptinmorgan so you have an installation cd or just the live one12:39
aftertafcheck out the gfx driver too.....12:39
aftertafif x is all black.12:39
rosendooglus, so I could use sudo apt-get 'install XML: :Simple' .... or something ?12:40
aftertafanyone know why my icons are rendered horrible and not drawn right in dapper, nameny synaptic, maybe in other gtk apps too.12:40
dooglusrosen: I'm not entirely sure what those "sudo perl -MCPAN" lines have done, and how to undo them.12:40
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munzirSirs, where can I find an explanation of what each repository means?12:40
rosendooglus, that sounds ... bad :D12:40
dooglusrosen: and I don't know Dutch, so I'm finding it hard to read your #paste messages12:40
CaptainMorganso what can I do with the live cd - ubuntus.... I can't access any files... nor can I get net access like I could before12:41
ilba7rcaptinmorgan if i am in your place i will just reinstall12:41
CaptainMorgantrying to... but I need to access the dat12:41
CaptainMorganto backup12:41
rosendooglus, yeah I should have installed with english it would make the guides much easier aswell12:41
CaptainMorganfirst12:41
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  what is your gfx card?12:41
hmpedersenHow do i set, which program handles which files?12:41
rosendooglus, oh and it's danish ;)12:41
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CaptainMorganI tried cdrecord when wasn't black..12:41
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wildmankeychain, here we go again12:41
CaptainMorganwhen X wasn't black12:41
wildmanwhy doesn't keychain ask me for passphrases?????12:41
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: how about running dpkg-reconfigure -p medium xserver-xorg ?12:41
CaptainMorganbut cdrecord did shit12:41
wildmanthis is plain wrong...12:41
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dooglusrosen: what does "sudo apt-get -f install" tell you?12:42
CaptainMorganred i can't accessa  terminal12:42
wildmanI've deleted ~/.keychain, and running keychain again tells me initializing blablabla... but NEVER asks me for passphrases12:42
wildmanany ideas?12:42
CaptainMorganthe screens black12:42
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  can you press Alt+F? or ctl+alt+F ?12:42
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rosendooglus, exactly the same message12:42
ilba7r_captinmorgan you have an installtion cd sorry i was dc12:42
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: even when you hit what aftertaf said?12:42
ilba7r_if you have one just either reinstall or try typing rescue at the boot line12:43
CaptainMorgan... well. now Im doing the live again.. see what happens12:43
aftertafilba7r_:  a live cd it seems.12:43
ilba7r_will give you a rescue mode12:43
dragoonwhats your problem CaptainMorgan ?12:43
CaptainMorganwill I lose data ?12:43
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  when it boots and then goes black, try swapping consoles with ctl+alt+F112:43
ilba7r_ubuntu should be able to install from livecd like mepis12:43
CaptainMorganhow come I can't access my data using a live cd ?12:44
ilba7r_captinmorgan do not format anything and you will not loose anything12:44
rosendooglus, I have been pondering to reinstall my box though, and NOT use automatix and all the other scripts to install my programs... since I really dont learn much from pasting scripts and such12:44
CaptainMorganlib, not planning on it ;)12:44
dragoonCaptainMorgan: whats your problem ?12:44
ilba7r_captainmorgan the live cd do not mount your harddisk.12:44
redguy|workilba7r_: well it can, there's the ubuntu live + install dvd12:44
CaptainMorganlib, how do I moutn it12:45
CaptainMorgansorry. dragoon... what isn't my problem?12:45
dragoonCaptainMorgan: whats your problem ?12:45
dragoonheh12:45
dragoonwhats broken - everything ?12:45
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CaptainMorganX won't start, I can't get a command line12:45
ilba7r_depend on your configuration do you remember how did you partition your harddisk12:45
dragoonoh great12:45
dragoonwhy not boot from a ubuntu live cd12:45
dragoonmount your stuff12:45
dragoonand copy what you need to another partition12:46
dragoonthen reinstall ?12:46
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CaptainMorganIm on  alive cd now... how do I mount?12:46
dragoonopen a terminal12:46
CaptainMorgangot one12:46
dragoonsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda112:46
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dragoonmkdir /media/hda1 1st12:46
dragoonwel.. what ever the drive is that your mounting12:46
senectusESD has shagged itself on my PC because I swapped my mainboard and yanked the old SBLive! I had, is there some way to completly reconfigure ESD?12:47
dooglusrosen: that's a good idea.12:47
vbgunzAnybody know why Samba continues to ask for a password for a Windows share that does not require one? Also, why does Samba ask for a password when I go to > Places > Network Servers? I do not need passwords for these and Samba is spamming me... Why?12:47
aftertafdpkg-reconfigure? senectus12:47
dooglusrosen: I've seen lots of people suggest NOT using automatix12:47
CaptainMorganmoutn point media doens' exit12:47
CaptainMorganexist12:47
dragoonmkdir /media/12:47
dragoonmkdir /media/hda112:47
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ElitePetecan anyone help me my .wma files show up as asf video?12:47
dooglusrosen: I just read that there's no way of uninstalling packages installed using CPAN ( http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/077623.html )12:47
rosendooglus, that's what I'm thinking.. It's all those little tasks it performs I should have learned from doing12:48
CaptainMorganpermission denied12:48
dragoonsudo before it12:48
firesideits tanya how does this thing work someone tell me12:48
wildmansudo mkdir /media/hda{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}12:48
dooglusrosen: I'm not sure about it - a lot of the tasks are stupid little things you only need to do once anyway.12:48
wildmanfor example ;)12:48
CaptainMorganfilesytem type ?12:48
wildmanwill cover the 1st 10 partitions for hda :P12:49
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dooglusrosen: they would be included in the default install if it wasn't for legal reasons12:49
dragoonCaptainMorgan: whats your / partition drive ?12:49
dragoonwell partition12:49
CaptainMorganuh.... Win for 50gigs... Linux takes the rest for 2512:49
dragoonso linux would be /dev/hda2 ?12:49
senectusESD has shagged itself on my PC because I swapped my mainboard and yanked the old SBLive! I had, is there some way to completly reconfigure ESD?12:49
rosendooglus, oh it's just because I find it hard to 'get a foot in the door' ... And now I've tried running linux so there is really no turning back to windows... I wanna learn :O12:50
CaptainMorganisn't there a command to list the partitions ?12:50
YukiIkyutaCaptainMorgan, mount12:50
dragoonfdisk -l12:50
firesideare yous safe lets do a bit ov chattin now lads12:50
aftertafsenectus:  try using dpkg-reconfigure12:50
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DuoMaxwellUbuntu don't work so what one should I try next as a linux newb? http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php?pick=Linux_PPC&showonly=All&sort=&sm=112:51
YukiIkyutaDuoMaxwell, how doesn't Ubuntu work?12:51
CaptainMorganmount's no help..12:51
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dragoonCaptainMorgan: fdisk -l12:51
dragoonsudo fdisk -l12:51
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senectusaftertaf, aparently dpkg-reconfigure doesn't see "esd" as an app it can reconfigure12:51
DuoMaxwellcan't get my iBook te see it as a bootable volume12:51
rosenDuoMaxwell, I've tried most of the distros out there, but I gotta say ... Ubuntu is the only one that have lasted more than a few days ;)12:52
aftertafwhat is the package name?12:52
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senectusaftertaf, esd12:52
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firesidewhat the hell u lot chattin on about12:52
aftertafgstreamer0.8-esd , libesd-alsa012:52
YukiIkyutafireside, Ubuntu, would you believe.12:52
aftertafsenectus:  try dpkg -l | grep esd12:53
ElitePetecan anyone help me my .wma files show up as asf video?12:53
DuoMaxwellRosen: Project one for me is to get any non apple OS to boot on this thing outside of emulation, then try and install12:53
YukiIkyutaElitePete, wma files are audio only.12:53
ElitePeteyes i know yuki.12:53
hmpedersenCan ne1 help me get my music to open in xmms by default?12:53
AstxistElitePete, probably are asf then12:53
YukiIkyutaSo how an ASF video ..?12:53
ElitePetebut they wont play in xmms and they have the asf icon.12:53
ElitePeteast, they are WMA.12:53
YukiIkyutaOh.12:53
CaptainMorgansupposedly I mounted it.. .but I can't access it's media directory/12:53
YukiIkyutaOH*.12:53
senectusaftertaf, that gave me several lines of stuff.. what's it mean?12:53
YukiIkyuta-ahem-12:53
YukiIkyutaSorry.12:53
CaptainMorganpermission denide12:53
CaptainMorganeven after sudo12:53
firesidewhos yukiikyuta its tanya from fireside12:53
rosenDuoMaxwell, aaaah ... I really dont know nothing about apple computers ... just like most of the talk inhere is jibberish to me ;)12:54
aftertafsenectus:  dpkg -l lists the packages installed, the grp bit filters to show only those with esd in the name.12:54
Fujitsufireside, this is the Ubuntu Linux support channel.12:54
YukiIkyutafireside, I don't know who or what that is.12:54
ElitePetei can play them in totem movie player. but they are audio only obviously, how do i play them in xmms ?12:54
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AstxistElitePete, k can't say I have any wma audio files to test it for you12:54
CaptainMorgank wiat...12:54
CaptainMorganI mounted the wrong partition12:54
rosenhehehe12:54
DuoMaxwellrosen: I know how you fell, I'm seeing that now12:54
ElitePetei will figure it out after school today i guess then12:54
CaptainMorganin media/sda2 is windows12:54
senectusaftertaf, ok.. so dpkg-reconfigure all those and that might help?12:55
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rosenDuoMaxwell, but really ... this is the best place to get help... and Ubuntu is (in general) MUCH easier to comprehend than the other distros I've tried12:55
aftertafsenectus:  try the one that most seems like the actual package and not a plugin....12:55
firesidefireside is a place where we just sign on and chat what the hell is a support channel what do you lot do12:55
AstxistElitePete, tried using open with?12:55
aftertafsenectus:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure ;)12:55
YukiIkyutafireside, this is a channel (place where people talk) to help people if they're having problems using Ubuntu.12:56
aftertaffireside:  you are in an official support channel for ubuntu, this is not a chat room12:56
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CaptainMorgano... I successfully mounted that bad ass mofo linux partition.. I can access files...12:56
CaptainMorgannow what?12:56
ElitePeteastxist yes12:56
senectusaftertaf, thanks, need to reboot I think12:56
firesidei know that now and im laughing my face off sorry but i still dont get what ubuntu is someone tell me12:57
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YukiIkyutafireside, http://www.ubuntulinux.org12:57
Hobbsee!ubuntu12:57
ubotfluit has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards12:57
dragoonCaptainMorgan: capy them where u want12:57
ElitePete!awards12:57
ubotflumethinks awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks12:57
bigfoot1guys, how can i view windows media movie files and apple quicktime movie files within firefox 1.5?12:57
Jaymaccaptain morgan.. YAY12:57
CaptainMorganubuntu is a secret African tribe that bites the heads off of people who ask what is it12:57
senectusCaptainMorgan, dork :-)12:58
CaptainMorgancopy them where I want?12:58
YukiIkyuta:)12:58
Hobbseehaha12:58
CaptainMorganim in the live cd12:58
DuoMaxwellrosen: I've tried a few live CDs on x86, Mandrake move, Damn Small, Helix and Linspire 5-0 Live, Linspire I actually liked12:58
rosen...I'm going to do it ! ... start from scratch with a clean slate ! ... be back a little later ... probably crying about how everything is too confusing and nothing works :D12:58
alexandreHear Ye, good people! Can anyone help me with a screen resolution problem? I just installed Ubuntu on my work computer and resolution is 800x600 60Hz and can't be set higher once I'm logged in. Where can I possibly set this all up?12:58
ilba7r_bgfoot1 install mozilla-mplyaer plugin12:58
AstxistElitePete, ok I'm looking into it12:58
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ElitePeteDuoMaxwell i used to like linspire12:58
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rosenDuoMaxwell, I've only messed with debian, redhat, mandrake and SuSe12:58
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  then reboot to linux and see if you can get to console with terminal swapping.... alternatively, try  pressing alt+f1 on boot, when it gets to starting gdm....12:58
firesidecaptain morgan your lyeing its not a tribe that bites the heads off people and its tanya that as asked12:59
harahello. any packagebuilder experts around/alive here?12:59
KaobearI feel retarded, I have been trying to get sound to work on my computer for three days and don't have anymore done than when i started12:59
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ElitePeteive tried almost every linux distro, ubuntu is like the only one i will install12:59
dooglusaftertaf: control-alt-f1 I think you mean12:59
aftertafalexandre:  edit your xorg.conf12:59
CaptainMorganaftertaf you mean like replace every file in live with the partitions files... then reboot?12:59
rosenAnyways, I'll reinstall my my box ... and pray for the best12:59
ElitePeteKaobear in terminal, type alsamixer12:59
aftertafdooglus:  yeah, depends if x has blocked at that point or not.12:59
DuoMaxwellrosen: from what I gather you can't get the Linspire live CD anymore as it was a promo for them, but if you'd like it I can send you the .iso12:59
firesidemorgan did u jus get my last message01:00
CaptainMorgannah01:00
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  no!!!!01:00
rosenDuoMaxwell, nah I'm ok with Ubuntu .. now I just have to learn how to use it :) thanks for the offer though01:00
CaptainMorgan?01:00
CaptainMorganplease clarify aftertaf01:00
alexandreaftertaf: Thanks, I'm having a peek in there right now. Let's see what I can get out of this file... ;-)01:00
AstxistElitePete, here you go http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms01:00
firesidei said it was tanya that was askin and its not a tribe that bites the heads off people seriously what is it01:00
ElitePetety astxist01:01
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  2 things being advised:  1) how to access some files to make a backup  ,  2) how to get around the black screen on boot01:01
CaptainMorganfireside, you must really want your head to disappear01:01
CaptainMorganah....01:01
Jaymaccaptain, how's it going?01:01
aftertaffireside:  quit wasting time01:01
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CaptainMorgannow I see ya aftertaf01:01
CaptainMorganyooou01:01
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  :] 01:01
CaptainMorganyou...01:01
firesidewell iof it makes u feel better take my head01:01
ElitePeteastxist unfortunatly none of that information applies to me....01:02
CaptainMorganin the words of robert Deniro:... you.... you... yo're god01:02
YukiIkyutafireside, Ubuntu is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/01:02
CaptainMorgangood01:02
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  the mount thing you did gives you access to your hard drive, if you want to copy some files to another partition now is the time.01:02
Jaymacwho is god?01:02
YukiIkyutafireside, see the next message from ubotflu, too.01:02
YukiIkyuta!ubuntu01:02
ubotflurumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards01:02
Jaymacknoppix work?01:02
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Kaobearnothing, no sound at all01:02
ElitePeteKaobear have you done alsamixer in terminal yet?01:02
Kaobearyes I did, jacked all the volumes up and got squat01:03
CaptainMorganaftertaf, why not make backup of the files.. and reinstall? or can I send the data on the linux partion to Win ?01:03
KaobearI have an onboard Realtek ALC 880 chipset if that makes a different01:03
firesideubotflu u not speaking no sense to me01:03
ubotfluWish i knew, fireside01:03
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firesidestop calling me fireside its tanya01:03
ElitePetekaobear i have that same chip.01:03
alexandreaftertaf: Apparently, my screen is detected as "generic monitor" and a list of resolutions only shows 800x600. Is there a tool I can use to have my screen detected? Or something else I should do?01:03
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  send to win, you can, you'll need to mount the win partition too. but on the black screen thing, have you tried to swap to another terminal at any point?01:03
ElitePetedo you see the volume icon toolbar?01:03
YukiIkyutafireside, your nickname is set to fireside, therefore that's what we're going to call you.01:03
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firesideu lot are mad01:04
aftertafalexandre:  add "1024x768" as an option in xorg.conf. for the screen, it doesnt actually matter iirc01:04
ElitePetefireside if you are going to insult us please go jump off a cliff01:04
Hobbseefireside: i dont think this channel was the one you were looking for01:04
CaptainMorgannah.. right now.. Ill Win won't mind that I temporarily store Lin there ?01:04
CaptainMorganPete, Fireside( tanya) wants to give me head01:04
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aftertaf!op01:05
ubotfluparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, aftertaf01:05
firesideyer u right there but now im on this channel i want to know what yous lot do01:05
aftertaf!ops01:05
ubotfluHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth01:05
AstxistElitePete, I installed the package and wma plays fine in XMMS now01:05
CaptainMorganbase jumping - not yet01:05
ElitePeteast it doesn't for me :\01:05
KaobearThe only sound I get is the system beep01:05
CaptainMorgan!ops01:05
ubotfluHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth01:05
CaptainMorgan!ops01:05
Hobbseeof course, the ops are probably all asleep lol01:05
YukiIkyutaCaptainMorgan, once should be enough. :)01:05
ElitePetewell i gotta go to school01:05
Kaobearthe volume is all the way up01:05
firesidegive your self head morgan01:06
CaptainMorganshut up ubotflu01:06
AstxistElitePete, don't know then maybe you have something else wrong with xmms01:06
CaptainMorganfireside, wouldn't be here if I could!01:06
AstxistElitePete, I'm guessing it plays other audio files fine?01:06
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YukiIkyutafireside, we are a support channel for Ubuntu Linux. End of story. If you want to find out more, and not insult us, go here: http://ubuntulinux.org/ Otherwise, you won't find anything of interest.01:06
ElitePeteyes01:06
CaptainMorganaftertaf where'd ya go?01:06
ElitePeteastxist i really must leave but thx for the help01:06
AstxistElitePete, k01:07
firesideoh so what is it exactly what u do morgan01:07
DuoMaxwellAny recomendations?01:07
DuoMaxwellhttp://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php?pick=Linux_PPC&showonly=All&sort=&sm=101:07
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  id suggest you try booting again first... normally no need to reinstall, so no need to abckup.01:07
MrBluntshello everyone01:07
aftertaffireside:  will you PACK IT IN?01:07
firesidepack what in01:07
CaptainMorganaftertaf - Ill pack IT in her01:07
YukiIkyutaTanya, if you watch what most of us doing right now, you can see.01:08
firesidemorgan u bad01:08
CaptainMorganaftertaf.. so what was the point of mounting then?01:08
CaptainMorganjust to see if I can access the files ?01:08
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  for the backups......01:08
CaptainMorganso now ou want me to reboot?01:08
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  i'd like to try a reboot first to see if you can get around the X problem..... but first....01:09
CaptainMorganbut you said no need for the backup01:09
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  can you edit your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 ?01:09
firesidebut what does it mean what you lot are writing down01:09
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  i wasnt the one who told you to backup and reinstall.01:09
YukiIkyutaTanya, some people are having some issues with using Ubuntu, and they ask for help here. Most of the time, they get it from other people, also here.01:09
MrBluntsquite helpful channel actually01:09
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CaptainMorganhey aftertaf..01:10
CaptainMorganuhm..01:10
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: I really wonder what's wrong with your machine :/01:10
Chousukecan you ping stuff while in console?01:10
firesideoh so ubuntu means there having trouble wiv there computer01:10
CaptainMorganthis is probably bad...you think? - I went to the X11 dir... there is no xorg.conf file01:10
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  i think you can reboot and solve the problem. after an upgrade to breezy and X wont start you need to reconfigure xorg01:10
Chousukefireside: that's not english01:10
CaptainMorganusllay there's more in X11... but Im missing like half of my files01:11
firesidewhat do u mean its not english01:11
YukiIkyutaTanya, no, not at all. If you please look here: http://ubuntulinux.org/ , you can see what Ubuntu is - a free Operating System, like Windows.01:11
YukiIkyuta(like Windows, except that it's free, and better!)01:11
Chousukefireside: I meant it made no sense ;P01:11
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CaptainMorgantanya, take my hand - ill show you the way01:11
aftertaffireside:  You are not in the least amusing, just pointless01:11
firesideoh so its not an african tribe then01:11
YukiIkyutaNo.01:11
CaptainMorganthis is probably bad...you think? - I went to the X11 dir... there is no xorg.conf file01:11
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CaptainMorganusllay there's more in X11... but Im missing like half of my files01:12
DuoMaxwellThat and you have to pay for windows, weither you want it or not from a store machine lol01:12
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  ok so you need to get the install finished in console.01:12
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: when you installed ubuntu, did you partition separate space for Ubuntu and your files?01:12
YukiIkyutaThough it may be in the future... (if I have anything to do with it()01:12
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  did you upgtrade from hoary, or from warty...?01:12
CaptainMorganhoary01:12
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MrBluntsby people for people in figurative terms01:12
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: are you on ubuntu right now? no?01:12
CaptainMorganpartition spearate space AND files ?01:12
CaptainMorganyes01:12
CaptainMorganlive cd01:12
firesideok  just one last thing i think u lot are good on computers to understand all them numbers and lines and that01:12
Chousukeoh. hmm01:12
CaptainMorganmounted harddrive01:12
KaobearAccording to what I have read, I have to uddate my ALSA drivers, I think01:12
KaobearAny idea on how to do this?01:13
CaptainMorganaftef installl finsihed ?01:13
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: I mean, are your files on a separate partition than Ubuntu?01:13
YukiIkyutaKaobear, ALSA is typically in the kernel.01:13
CaptainMorgancan't I copy the livecd xorg.conf to the mounted X11 dir?01:13
KaobearEww?01:13
CaptainMorganno chousuke01:13
YukiIkyutaYep. Where have you read that, though?01:13
Chousuketoo bad :/01:13
CaptainMorganthey're in ubuntu01:13
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  can you try to boot and use the console swapping to get a console login? if so you can try a couple of commands.01:13
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firesideyukiIkyuta are u cinese01:13
ChousukeCaptainMorgan: if you had a separate partition for the files, you could just wipe your system without touching your files01:14
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  you'll need to write them down if you cant access the net in console, or irc01:14
YukiIkyutaTanya, no. YukiIkyuta is a Japanese name, however.01:14
Kaobearjust a sec, i'll get you the page01:14
aftertaffireside:  how old are you?01:14
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YukiIkyutaTanya, I have no doubts some people here are in fact Chinese.01:14
CaptainMorganwait.. please clarify01:14
CaptainMorganwhat should I do?01:14
firesidesame en it can u get into trouble for chattin top me01:14
YukiIkyutaHobbsee, only problem with /ignoring is that it gets confusing when others start replying to no-one. o_O01:14
DuoMaxwellI can't find the damn thing, I wanna try this Gentoo PPC LiveCD but I can't find it anywhere on their site for download, theres mention of it but no .iso01:14
CaptainMorganfirst, reboot and try console swapping?01:14
HobbseeYukiIkyuta: hehe, that is true01:14
YukiIkyutaTanya, this isn't true; a Chinese person outside of China could do so. I'm not sure about inside China.01:15
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  yes... you should try that.... but first note down how to, if you dont know how....01:15
CaptainMorganno worries01:15
CaptainMorganIMon a second comp01:15
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  and note the commands to try... can you get on the net or not in console?01:15
ilba7r_duomaxwell i won't recommend gentoo as first linux distribution. It will take you days to get running system. Its harder then debian01:15
firesideu did not answer my question could u get into trouble chattin to me01:15
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  hehe ojk ;=)01:15
CaptainMorganmy main machine is the one havin gproblems01:15
CaptainMorgan..so Ill reboot now01:15
YukiIkyutaThat was a question?01:15
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YukiIkyutaWhy would I get in trouble, though?01:16
firesideyer01:16
KaobearYukiIkyuta, i think http://www.alsa-project.org/documentation.php is where I got it01:16
DuoMaxwellwanna grab a bunch of liveCDs for PPC while I sleep to see if any of them will boot this damn thing01:16
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firesidei dont know aint u in some sort ov office i mean your friends are moaning ent they01:16
YukiIkyutaKaobear, okay, but which reason in particular?01:16
YukiIkyutaTanya, .. what? I'm at home.01:17
CaptainMorganwhat's the command for console swapping? alt-f1...01:17
DuoMaxwellilba7r, its past my bedtime, I'm getting to impatient for doing, well anything lol01:17
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  yes01:17
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firesidewell thats what i mean yuki i dont understand about this thing01:17
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harahow can i change the target host type when building a package? i'm on athlonxp1800 and dpkg-buildpackage wants to build for i48601:18
KaobearI have no sound whatsoever except the system beep and that is all that is from keeping me from using Ubuntu as my main OS01:18
ilba7r_duomaxwell look at this forum specially for mac http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=9501:18
ChousukeKaobear: which soundcard do you have?01:18
YukiIkyutaTanya, this is just a channel, an online chat room, but this has been designed for use as a support channel where people can come to get help. People all over the world are here, some from home, some from work, wherever!01:18
CaptainMorganubuntu is mean... it's an old Native American Indian tale of a giant bear.. one bigger than a Grizzly01:18
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KaobearChousuke an onboard Realtek ALC 880 chipset01:18
ChousukeHmm :/01:19
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ChousukeI have no experience of that.01:19
firesideyuki your cute01:19
ilba7r_duomaxwell and this to see how well ppc is supported01:19
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  yes. try also CTl+ALT+F1,   and if you have the splash screen, try also alt+F8... just avoid alt+f7 cos it's the console where X runs.01:19
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redguy|work!ops fireside won't stop being stupid01:19
ubotfluredguy|work: Bugger all, i dunno01:19
redguy|workhrm01:20
ilba7r_duomaxwell if you have airport extreme forget the wireless. I remember there was a thread to install x on mac. Then you can access all linux packages  without installation01:20
firesideyuki01:20
YukiIkyutaTanya?01:20
DuoMaxwellilba7r I tried there months ago when I 1st recived an official ShipIt copy of 5.04, noone could figure out why my particular iBook wouldn't see the Ubuntu install CD as a boot volume or why the Live CD would crash halfway into the boot01:20
aftertaffireside:  WILL YOU PACK IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND GO AWAY!01:20
YukiIkyutarofl01:20
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firesidedid u see what i wrote01:20
DuoMaxwellilba7r I don't have any wireless gear01:20
YukiIkyutaYes, I saw. Thank you.01:20
Hobbseeat least the channel is logged, so fireside will soon be banned01:21
aftertaffor good.01:21
CaptainMorganNo you packe it in! ( Wedding Crashers ) ;)01:21
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aftertaflook, go to ubuntu-offtopic for non help-related things.01:21
Hobbseeexactly, aftertaf :P01:21
YukiIkyutaCaptainMorgan, rofl, that was a slightly amusing movie.01:21
ilba7r_duomaxwell i do not think apple hardware is well supported on linux01:21
CaptainMorgank... ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work.....01:21
mitch_hey ... can someone tell me how to use or install gstreamer?01:21
Quizzerhow do you change the root password, so i can use the update manager program01:21
firesideyuki whos aftertaf01:21
Quizzerthe one i set at install doesnt work01:21
YukiIkyutaTanya, someone else here!01:22
ChousukeQuizzer: You shouldn't have set a password at install01:22
firesidewell his mean en he01:22
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ChousukeQuizzer: by default, ubuntu uses sudo01:22
mitch_its probably not the password you are trying01:22
ChousukeQuizzer: input your own password01:22
CaptainMorganalt-f8 doesn't work either01:22
Quizzeri just set the password on the user account it created01:22
Chousukeif  you forgot your own password, then... eh.01:22
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  and with ctl too? not working?01:22
DuoMaxwellilba7r OS X is BSD based and theres atleast 25-30 projects that do PPC Linux, Yellow Dog being PPC only01:22
mitch_Can someone tell me how to use gstreamer?01:22
Chousukecheck if you accidentally typed it with caps-lock on01:22
CaptainMorgannone aftertaf01:22
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Quizzerthat was it .. stupid caps lock01:23
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: try booting in the rescue mode then01:23
Chousukeheehe01:23
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  ok.... reboot it again and try to do it just at the moment where the console goes away and x starts loading.....01:23
CaptainMorganredguy - at boot: <rescue> ?01:23
firesideaftertaf what is me chattin on here bothering u01:23
mitch_Can someone tell me if there is a Windows Manager other then gnome of xfce?01:23
Chousukefireside: You could at least speak proper English01:23
mitch_or01:23
Hobbseemitch_: plenty, kde for one01:23
Hobbseeicewm is another01:24
firesidei dont uinderstand what u mean proper english01:24
ilba7r_mitch try the forums desktop support01:24
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: don't you have a menu?01:24
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CaptainMorgannah01:24
mitch_let me revise my question,    a Windows Manager that is less ram intensive then xfce or gnome,   i know xfce is faster then gnome (for me personaly)  but is there one faster then xfce??01:24
CaptainMorganfor the live cd I did01:25
aftertafyou apparently not giving half a flying shit that this is a support channel and despite the fact that many of us have asked you to either stop being offtopic, leave, and stop asking stupid non related questions IS bothering me, YES! plus the fact that if there had been an OP here you would have been kicked and banned after 3 posts01:25
firesidechou so what do u mean proper english01:25
DuoMaxwellilba7r, ok, I'm out. too tired to google for anything else for now01:25
YukiIkyutaTanya, I believe he means with full words (`you', not `u'), punctuation, etc.01:25
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milksteakmitch_, fvwm's a pretty nice WM01:25
ChousukeYes.01:25
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firesideyuki u back startin to miss ya01:25
milksteakif you don't mind spending forever configuring it :)01:25
ilba7r_mitch openbox and fluxbox and enlightenment01:25
YukiIkyutaTanya, I'm always here/01:25
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ilba7r_duomaxwell bye man01:25
firesidealways thats some long hours01:25
mitch_can i install those thru the package manager or is that a independent download?01:26
ilba7r_mitch they are all in ubuntu repos01:26
YukiIkyutaWell, not always, but I've not gone away.01:26
mitch_thanks everybody01:26
firesidewhats hydraIRC01:26
YukiIkyutamitch_, hmm.01:26
YukiIkyutamitch_, try looking up ion3.01:26
mitch_ill be online thruout the install, if i have questions..01:26
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YukiIkyutaTanya, good question. Sounds like an IRC client01:26
CaptainMorgank , gonna try ctrl --alt f1 soon..01:27
mitch_I have only 64mb ram on this puter.. so im looking for something that dosent putter01:27
ilba7r_mitch the lightest is openbox. But need a lot of tweeking01:27
firesidewhats an IRC01:27
aftertaffireside:  this is not a social chat channel this is a support channel, people here ask help and others try to reply, but when people take up space by chatting, despite the fact they have been asked not to, is very irrespectful and will earn you a ban as soon as an op gets online. i can guarantee this to you; so you could as well say goodbye now.01:27
YukiIkyutaCaptainMorgan, to recover, ctrl-alt-f7 should get you back to X.01:27
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Hoxzersomebody here has got Gmailfs work?01:27
YukiIkyutailba7r_, lighter than ion3?01:27
aftertaffireside:  like i said you can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and there is NO problem, the fact you refuse to is point enough.01:27
ilba7r_yukikyuta i never tried ion301:27
YukiIkyutaTanya, this is IRC here, how we're all talking; Internet Relay Chat. People aren't appreciating that you talk here when others are giving support, however.01:27
YukiIkyutailba7r_, it's ridiculously light.01:28
aftertaffireside: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic and do the support channel a favour01:28
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mitch_IT allways seemed for me when people were neglegent to hear what i had to say (offtopic) or not it just made me want to stay and bother everybody more,     But like aftertaf and others said about fireside.   this is a support channel theres other places to get better attention then in here01:29
CaptainMorgank, nothing worked...01:29
ilba7r_mitch you will need to look at this forum for openbox01:29
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ilba7r_yukiyuta might give it a try01:29
CaptainMorganctraltf1..ctraltf7 nore alt's01:29
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  did you hammer on CTL9+ALT+F1 just at the moment when the console bit disappeared?01:30
CaptainMorganindeedd01:30
mitch_wheres the forum?01:30
aftertaf(less the 9)01:30
CaptainMorganpressed it very often01:30
YukiIkyutailba7r_, I'm pretty happy. ion is pretty `esoteric', in that there aren't windows, but everything occupies an entire screen.01:30
YukiIkyutaMost of the time.01:30
CaptainMorganfast01:30
firesideyuki u a sweet person the others however need some manners well im having a little chat and they dont like it whats wrong wiv em anyway nice chattin to ya yuki its a shame i cant see ya u are really sweet01:30
aftertaffireside. were you born completely stupid?01:30
YukiIkyutaTanya, as before, it's not a matter of manners, it's just that this is a channel for *support*, not for *chat*.01:31
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mitch_ion dosent seem like a good choice,   i want something usable but not so ram intensive like gnome?       would gnome be not working well because i have a celeron?01:31
YukiIkyutaThere are alternate channels for chatting.01:31
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firesideaftertaf wiv a name like that u were born completly stupid01:31
YukiIkyutamitch_, why doesn't ion seem like a good choice? o_O01:31
aftertafmitch_:  what processor wpeed? and how much ram?01:31
CaptainMorgank, why not use live... back up themounted harddrive... ... or what next ?01:31
aftertaffireside:  how kindergarten01:31
firesideyuki i did not catch what u wrote01:31
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ilba7r_mitch it is not only a window manager you need also a light file manager nautilus is heavy too01:32
ilba7r_mitch so perhaps you need rox-filer too its light01:32
CaptainMorganmitch = upgrade :/01:32
CaptainMorganlike a big 2GIG of ram baby - you can do it01:33
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  ok, so what do you want to backup?01:33
firesidecome on yuki tell me what u wrote  ive gotta go01:33
YukiIkyutaTanya, scroll up; this channel isn't for chatting, in short. That's why people are being rude; they're trying to answer or give support requests, but chat-traffic bogs it down. You can either type `/join #ubuntu-offtopic' to reach a channel to `chat', or you can leave. End of story...01:33
mitch_YukiIkyuta.    because i want soemthing that my mom would know how to use to put it bluntly.    .       Im running 800mhz,   celeron,     64mb sd 100,    .            without spending moeny i think software would do the trick not some hardware01:33
aftertaf!topic01:33
ilba7r_yukiyuta am not using any light windowmanager anymore my hardware is pretty fast that i do not need too anymore01:33
Hobbseeof course, you can type " /quit #ubuntu " if you wish...01:33
Hobbseefireside: of course, you can type " /quit #ubuntu " if you wish...01:33
CaptainMorgandunno... aftertaf.. nothing we try is working.. I do have my data... I back it up... get a copy of breezy... install it and bam..01:33
CaptainMorganwhatcha think ?01:33
YukiIkyutamitch_, okay, that's a very good point! Is xfce really too much? I find that it's rather light.01:33
alexandreGeez, I go away for 5 minutes, peeking and poking with my configuration and when I come back people get stupid... -> fire...01:33
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  ok, do it....01:33
YukiIkyutamitch_, the problem is that most of the easier-to-use window managers (ideal for people like your mom ^^) *are* bigger.01:34
ilba7r_mitch have you considered daminsmalllinux. The os is only 54 MB01:34
egytrackhow i can cancel screensaver ?01:34
YukiIkyutaBut XFCE should do well on an 800mhz system..01:34
firesidelads enjoy ur sciencetific crap01:34
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HiddenFlyIs it normal that Kaffeine uses ~10% of cpu power all the time while I listen to a webradio? I have Athlon 2800+.01:35
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aftertaffireside:  assuming you are 1) able to read more than 3 words that arent in l33t sp3ak shordh4nd, 2) are capable of actually clicking a link and using a web browser.... read this. https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0 applies here01:35
ilba7r_mitch the problem that firefox for example is resource intensive, openoffice too. so you need a whole light package01:35
aftertafdamn!01:35
HiddenFlyAtleast I wouldn't think that it is.01:35
CaptainMorganaftertaf, and to others thank you for the patience, assistance and support... may not have got far but i feel like I we did do some good investigation... oh well, time to cut your losses01:35
YukiIkyutaHahahaha..01:35
YukiIkyutaaftertaf, seemed to miss the hundred or so links to ubunutlinux.org I gave him/her.01:35
aftertafmitch_:  gnome is slow when your pc doesnt have a lot of resources.... i use E17 on this one, a P3 500 with 256 ram.01:35
ChousukeI think she shoud spend some time enjoying "sciencetific crap".01:35
mitch_well  its not to much,  but as a computer advociate im allways on the search for more speed.      xfce seems to run alot better than gnome,  just wanted to know if something would run better then xfce,  althouh xfce i dont have much complaints ...   Yess i realize firefox takes forever to start,   is that maybe because its made for gnome in my ubuntu package..01:36
Chousukemainly papers on English grammar and spellinh01:36
Chousukespelling* ;P01:36
lockheadhow do i change mysql passwd?01:36
alexandreI changed my xorg.conf file and restarted the x-server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace). Apparently, I did something wrong because this crashed the X-server. Now it says I need to restart it GDM when I'm done with configuration. Does anybody know how I can restart GDM? I mean, the right way to do it? Ctrl-Alt-BS doesn't work anymore...01:36
YukiIkyutaChousuke :)!!01:36
aftertafmitch_:  i do like e17, even if its not 'finished', nothing rarely Is, and it is very slick and useable.01:36
aftertafalexandre:  in console, type sudo /etc/init.d.gdm restart01:37
ilba7r_mitch that is why i said daminsmalllinux it has the whole package. all are light weight you will feal the deifference and its decent for its speed01:37
YukiIkyuta/etc/init.d/gdm *01:37
aftertafthx YukiIkyuta :] 01:37
mitch_like i said,  if i had my choice i could run my programs out of a console,   but my puter needs to be used by the internet by my mom and bro that arnt to computer savy.   they need those big (CLICK HERE FOR INTERNET)  type things to do any task.   HAHA01:37
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alexandreaftertaf: All right! X is back.01:37
CaptainMorgandappper drake sounds interesting...01:38
aftertafAlex:  hehe; and in 1024*768?01:38
mitch_ilba7r_   is that a package that my mom would be able to use,   or me to set it up that way?01:38
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  loooool01:38
aftertafdapper aint stable,01:38
CaptainMorganwhy is breezy experimental and they're releasing a dapper in april ?01:38
tibihi! I've just updated my ubuntu (dapper) and now X won't start, something about glib01:38
aftertaf4 days without X01:38
alexandreaftertaf: nope.01:38
CaptainMorganis breezy stable?01:38
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  breezy aint experimental, its allegedly stable. dapper is the unstable one01:38
ilba7r_mitch it is a whole distribution that aquire only 54 MB. and it includes anything you might need01:38
CaptainMorganah...01:38
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aftertafalexandre:  and the resolution changer wont let you change to it?01:39
CaptainMorganbut hoary and hedgehog are he confirmed stable.... ?01:39
Chousukemitch_: enable X autologin and put something this in .xinitrc: fluxbox & firefox &  ;)01:39
netventure"allegedly stable" lol01:39
alexandreaftertaf: I just restored the backup I had made of xorg.conf before x crashed.01:39
Chousukeor well01:39
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  hoary Is hedgehog.01:39
ilba7r_a webbrowser, wm (fluxbox in this case) a wordprocessor and even ftp server01:39
tibiI'd like to try a different driver instead of nvidia, how can I configure X from command line?01:39
aftertafAlex:  ok...01:39
Chousukethat doesn't work if she closes firefox.01:39
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alexandreaftertaf: When it crashed it said I used "subsection" in a place I wasn't supposed to. So I'll start over.01:39
netventurea little off topic, but are there any X.org 7.0 RC dep packages available01:39
aftertaftibi:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you change the driver line01:39
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YukiIkyutaaftertaf, what's wrong with no X? ^^;01:40
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aftertafnetventure:  dapper is in xorg7 i believe01:40
aftertafYukiIkyuta:  for me, not much, i can get by in cli01:40
YukiIkyutaExactly!01:40
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aftertafalexandre:    ok.....01:40
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netventureaftertaf: I updated my sources.lst and pointed to dapper, but it semed to pick up the 6.8.2:77 packages for updates01:40
mitch_if i do a search in synaptic for "Window Manager"  will i get others beside gnome or xfce,  with universe enabled ?01:41
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ilba7r_enlightenment openbox blackbox are some of the few you will pick up01:41
ilba7r_mitch there are too many of them lol01:41
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CaptainMorgandoes anyone have a fool proof.. and/or working madwifi step by step instruction set..? I tried to follow the newmadwifi instructions, but it said If I don' tave the latest kernel... well basically I was SOL, that's what tempted me to go for the breeze01:42
btdownGot a question on how to update the SunJRE..I have update 5 installed but see there's a update 6 out (on seveas). When i try to update from Seveas, it 403 Forbiddens. Could I just update from Sun, would it screw anytihng up?01:42
aftertafnetventure:  checkong...01:42
chaumurkydamn www.debian-administration.org is still down01:42
netventurebtdown: the last I checked, you needed to make the deb package for Java01:42
mitch_what im gonna do is install a few and see which ones are the best for the tasks i do,    (internet browse, chat, stupid programs)       one more question,   ONce i find the window manager i like will uninstalling packages like gnome or xfce affect my windowmanger that i chose?01:43
ilba7r_btdown i installed from sun but it needs some tweeking01:43
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YukiIkyutamitch_, I reccomend blackbox.01:43
btdownAh ok. I'll wait then...Im lacking in the tweaking dept. ;)01:43
netventurebtdown: needs youto download the JDK/JRE separately and alao get some apps from synaptic/debian repos01:43
aftertafnetventure:  ok.... yeah it is. want to tarball it ? :] 01:44
ilba7r_mitch uninstalling xfce is not a problem. I do not know about gnome for it is in ubuntu-desktop and might affect your updates01:44
btdownThanks. I'll have to find another repo that has it. I think you need an account on seveas to dl it.01:44
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aftertafalexandre:  on the line  Modes           "800x600", add "1024x768" before the 800*600 bit.01:45
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netventureaftertaf: er.. did'nt really get you? did you mean getting the .deb's?01:45
aftertafalexandre:  look which mode is the default one and add this to that mode subsection01:45
ilba7r_btdown all you need is some symbolick links look at the forums for it01:45
aftertafnetventure:  nah, the .tar.gz ;)      it isnt yet 7.0, i just thought it was...01:45
btdownilba7r: Ok thanks. Im off to check ;)01:45
mitch_thanks ilba7r  i mean i have a good amount of hd space   (30gb)  so i dont mind having to leave gnome in there sitting arround i just dont want to run into probelms ive only been running linux for a week ,   (im and ax Microsoftie)01:46
netventureatf: I have the 7.0 RC3 tarballs, thanks though01:46
ilba7r_good luck than mitch_01:46
aftertafmitch_:  what is your pc specs?01:46
YukiIkyutaaftertaf, 800mhz.01:46
YukiIkyuta64MiB RMA.01:46
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YukiIkyutaRAM*01:46
aftertafok, and 64m ram? ouch01:46
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ubuntu__hojohojo01:47
YukiIkyutaSD 100 RAM at that.01:47
YukiIkyutaubuntu__, johojojo?01:47
aftertafwith e17 itll be fast, until you try to load any application ... :/01:47
ubuntu__linux rules01:47
YukiIkyutaubuntu__, we all agree.01:47
alexandreaftertaf: I just did. I actually did it too all the lines (replaced "800x600" with "1024x768" "800x600" to avoid typos). It doesn't change anything. In the resolution applet, I only get 800x600 and 640x480...01:47
mitch_aftertaf ,   im running  800mhz celeron, 64mb ram, 30gb harddrive,  Blazzing fast cable connection.01:47
netventureaft: ran into compilation issues with X7.0 RC3, not able to figure out, so was looking for the .deb's01:48
aftertafalexandre:  you'll need tor estart x again...01:48
aftertafnetventure:  what was the error?01:48
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netventureaftertaf: I was building with the script from the X.org site01:49
alexandreaftertaf: I already did "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (twice even)01:49
netventureafttertaf: encparse.c:52: error: parse error before "FontFilePtr"01:49
mitch_I was running 64+32 mb ram but the 32mb chip died on me thats why i been running into these ram hog program problems01:49
aftertafalexandre:  weird......01:49
netventureaftertaf: occurrend when compiling libfontenc01:49
aftertafnetventure:  anyone in #xorg ?01:49
aftertafmitch_:  www.ebay.com01:50
aftertaf:] 01:50
mitch_haha01:50
netventureaftertaf: did'nt check, will headthere01:50
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ilba7r_mitch_ have a look at this http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/01:50
mitch_I switched to linux because it was free,  went with ubuntu because it was free,   im not gonna put anymoney into this old computer.  theres no need,   theres ways around my problem without hardware01:50
mitch_thanks for the link ilba7r_  checking it out now01:51
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CaptainMorgani mounted my linux partion to /media/lda2 in Live... it's a lot of data.. alot that I don't have enough dvd's for.. how can I temporarily store in Win and reaccess it later?01:51
alexandreaftertaf: thanks for your help and patience so far. I'll keep trying.01:51
CaptainMorgansudo mount /media/lda2 /dev/(Win)/tempstorage/ ?01:52
ilba7r_captainmorgan i guess your win is ntfs right01:52
CaptainMorganyep01:52
ilba7r_captainmorgan if so you might run to some prob01:52
Knight_Lordmitch_ windowmaker works quite well for low memory01:52
mitch_Knight_Lord thanks01:52
ilba7r_captainmorgan i would never recommend writing to ntfs01:53
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aftertafalexandre:  you could also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specify 1024*768 ;)01:53
ilba7r_if you have another partition than write to it01:53
CaptainMorgank01:53
aftertaf!cigarette01:54
ubotfluIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)01:54
CaptainMorgancommand for checking the amount of data the mounted partition?01:54
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  df -h01:54
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: if it's just the data you're after you can backup the /home directory only01:54
rosenaaah ... back with a clean install :)01:54
CaptainMorganredguy. well I wanted some user settings too.. in xorg, etc, var/ urs01:55
CaptainMorganetc01:55
egytrackWhat Is Ubuntu DVD , i mean what's on it did someone try it ?01:55
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CaptainMorganhow do I check the amount of the /home directory ?01:55
BockBilbohey01:55
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alexandreaftertaf: that sounds interesting. I'm trying right now.01:56
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: sudo du -sh /home01:56
BockBilboi think there is a problem with the vesafb kernel module and reiserfs01:56
egytrackdose anyone have the Ubuntu DVD ?01:56
BockBilboanyone knows something about that?01:56
tibiafter updating my dapper, I get a bunch of ugly errors from perl/debconf/gtk, so I can't reconfigure my X, or start it01:56
BockBilbotibi, why are you using dapper?01:57
BockBilboit is unstable01:57
CaptainMorgancuz dapper sounds cool01:57
redguy|workegytrack: I always thought that the DVD is the live CD and install CD combined together01:57
tibiBockBilbo: for fun and profit :)01:57
BockBilbotooo unstable01:57
BockBilbooh... so whatever01:57
BockBilboxD01:57
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CaptainMorganredguy - that command produced an inaccurate result... no way that's right01:57
tibiBockBilbo: so I should go back to breezy?01:57
BockBilbotibi, i would01:58
egytrackredguy|work , so what's on the DVD ?01:58
tibiI like being on bleeding edge (when it works)01:58
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BockBilboi usually switch to the unstable version one month before the final release01:58
CaptainMorganwhy ?01:58
BockBilboby that time the stability is much higher01:58
tibiwhen's dapper to be released?01:58
CaptainMorganapril 0601:58
BockBilboapril 200601:58
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: huh? how do you know that's not right?01:58
tibino fun till then? :(01:59
BockBilbowell01:59
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egytrackredguy|work , what you found on the DVD ?01:59
BockBilboi bet youll have much fun if you install it now01:59
BockBilboxD01:59
CaptainMorgan212k in home.. I know I have more than that in home01:59
BockBilbolol01:59
CaptainMorganfor sure01:59
redguy|workegytrack: I didn't use it. I don't have it.01:59
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: you are on the live cd, right?02:00
CaptainMorganmore like 14 gigs in home alone02:00
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egytrackyou told me that you " thought that the DVD is the live CD and install CD combined together "02:00
CaptainMorganyep02:00
looksausis there a suggested way to sync Evolution calendar, tasks and mail for a really small office with basicly 1 laptop and 1 desktop to sync?02:00
tibiBockBilbo: I've upgraded from breezy, it's my main working station02:00
CaptainMorganbut im in the /home mounted dir02:00
redguy|workCaptainMorgan: sudo du -sh <path to your home dir on the mounted drive>02:00
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egytrackGuys what's on the DVD Then .. there is no info about that ?!02:00
BockBilbotibi bad idea02:00
CaptainMorgand'oh02:00
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alexandreaftertaf: We've made progress there!! I got it to 1024x768@60Hz...02:00
BockBilboif you want to try out dapper, you should use a secondary computer02:01
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dooglusBockBilbo: or a chroot would do02:01
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redguy|workegytrack: yes, that's what I told you. Does that imply that I *know* what is on the DVD?02:01
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sauron_the_madhello ppl! how do i make vcl the standardplayer?02:02
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egytrackredguy|work , nvm02:02
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egytrackwhy no body answer me then ... and tell me what's on the dvd no body try it ?02:03
egytrackor no body have it ?02:03
tibiBockBilbo: I've changed in source.list from dapper to breezy, ran apt-get update, but apt-get dist-upgrade says there are no packages to install. What should I do?02:03
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blizzkidAnyone knows if something like BluePhoneElite exists for linux?02:03
ejofeehow do i query an installed deb for wherever its files are?02:03
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dooglusejofee: dpkg -L02:04
weissiejofee;: dpkg -L <pkg>02:04
ejofeedooglus: thank you02:04
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egytrackwhy keep ignore me guys ?!!02:05
ejofeedooglus, weissi: what if i am not so sure about the exact name of the package, either? it seems dpkg doesn't support regexp or *02:05
dooglusegytrack: if anyone knows, they'll answer02:05
dooglusejofee: dpkg -l will list installed packages02:05
ejofeeegytrack: what was the asnwer?02:06
ejofeeegytrack: what was your question?02:06
ejofeedooglus: thank you02:06
rosenegytrack, I have downloaded and burned the DVD, and it seemed to me to be the exact same thing as the liveCD .. but then I'm a noob (wich is why I didnt answer)02:06
PsyberOnetibi if I remember correctly, synaptic/apt upgrades based on actual package version thus breezy packages will have lower versions than dapper so nothing will be marked to update02:06
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soudkwhere french ubuntu irc ???02:06
PsyberOneone of the weakness' of apt is rollbacks are fairly difficult02:07
dooglusejofee: this will give a better list of packages installed:  COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}'02:07
BdGrauehello, any german here? or a german ubuntu-channel available?02:07
BockBilbotibi, thats obvious02:07
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bulio|lapanyone know of a fast mirror for ubuntu 5.04?02:07
weissiejofee: try e.g. `dpkg -l mozilla-fi\* | grep "^ii"`02:07
BockBilboi think you cannot downgrade to hoary from breezy02:08
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bulio|lapI'm not02:08
bulio|lap I burned 3 CDs of 5.1002:08
bulio|lap<bulio|lap> all gave me debootstrap errors02:08
BockBilbomaybe someone here knows how to do it, but i think it is impossible02:08
BockBilboyou should reinstall hoary from the begining02:08
PsyberOnefrom what I've read to get back to breezy outside of a very painstaking dpkg -i --force-all <select all breezy versions>02:08
bulio|lapI want to re-install02:08
tibiBockBilbo: I've burned a cd, I'll need to mount the cdrom in this comp02:08
PsyberOnere-install is the best way to go02:08
bulio|lapits unsualble the system atm02:08
BdGrauekann hier jemand deutsch?02:09
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rosenwhat does the command CP do ?02:09
bulio|lapbut where can I get hoary?02:09
bulio|lapI tried upgrading from 4.1002:09
bulio|lapscrewed my system up02:09
bulio|lapnow I wanna try 5.x02:09
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BdGraueich htte gerne mal die info, wie ich meine systeminfo unter ubuntu und xchat aufrufen kann, von live-cd, ich kenne das mit /exec -o infobash -v3, aber das klappt nicht02:10
bulio|lapso where can I get a version older than 5.102:10
bulio|laplike 5.04 or something02:10
rosenon second thought ... is there somewhere I can find a list of terminal commands ? .. I will try to update my box manually and would like to know eactly what it is I am doing02:10
aftertafbulio|lap:  you can get the iso from the website, that way no upgrading02:10
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_jason!de02:10
aftertafrosen , !cli02:10
ubotflumethinks de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de02:10
BockBilbobulio|lap, there arent such versions02:10
aftertafand man apt02:11
bulio|lapI burnt 3CDs of breezy02:11
rosen!cli02:11
ubotfluextra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org02:11
bulio|lapall gave me problems02:11
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BdGrauethx02:11
BockBilboubuntus version are made by the year and the month of the release02:11
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bulio|lapcan you link me to another version02:11
rosenaftertaf thanks !02:11
dooglusrosen: open a terminal, hit tab, wait a few seconds, and say 'y' when it asks.  that'll list all the commands.02:11
bulio|lapnot breezy02:11
BockBilbo5.10 means october 200502:11
bulio|laplike a later version of hoary02:11
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BockBilbox example02:11
gand__How can I open port 21 to allow FTP service?02:11
BockBilbo*for02:11
bulio|laplook02:11
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bulio|lap5.10 is giving me problems02:11
bulio|lapI just want an older version02:11
rosendooglus, yeah but it was so that I could have it on th side while copy/pasting ;)02:11
bulio|lapwhich will be better than my 4.10 CD02:11
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Tomcat_bulio|lap: Like... 5.04? :)02:12
ejofeedooglus, weissi: thank you02:12
BockBilbo4.10 is warty, isnt it?02:12
Tomcat_BockBilbo: Correct.02:12
BockBilbowow02:12
BockBilbotry hoary , search for it on the ubuntu site02:12
ejofeeit seems ubuntu doesn't have the fonts on the expected path02:12
BockBilbothough breezy should be fine02:12
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ejofeesome apps don't detect them (apps from ubuntu repos)02:13
bulio|lapI get this02:13
bulio|lapon 3 Cds02:13
clint_d02:13
bulio|laphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7631602:13
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bulio|lap3 Cds caused that02:13
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ejofeeanybody here use vncserver / vncviewer?02:14
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soundrayejofee, yes02:15
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dooglusejofee: ubuntu has 'remote desktop' which is compatible with vncviewer02:15
bulio|lapso where can I get hoary hedgehog?02:15
tibiI should be able to install breezy from a iso image mounted from my drive, right?02:15
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soundraytibi, no02:15
tibisoundray: hmm. Why?02:16
soundraytibi, if you can manage to *boot* your ISO image, then you can install.02:16
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minimecHi. Sorry to disturb you with this silly problem. Since the first day with 'breezy' I had quiet a lot of problems with the totem-mozilla-plugin. the totem-gstreamer never worked (I always have this "can't play //fd0:" error), while the totem-xine package gave me a black screen but nothing else. Now I hear, that some people succeeded with this fu..ing plugin. How can I get this plugin to work?02:16
jim3hello everyone!02:16
rosenI just pasted two(!) lines of commands and understood what I was doing !02:16
rosen....and there was much rejoice02:17
donza:)02:17
doogluswell done rosen!02:17
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aftertafrosen:  yay02:17
rosenanyone need some help ?02:17
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alexandreaftertaf: If you're still watching, I found the cause of my screen resolution problem.02:19
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alexandreaftertaf: I've got a NVIDIA board.02:19
odathi everyone02:19
alexandreaftertaf: /var/log/Xorg.0.log told me 1024x768 wasn't a valid mode for the frequency I had chosen.02:19
odati have now gotten all steaming media to work (including wmv) under gstreamer and totem  :)02:20
aftertafreally?02:20
aftertafokkkkkk02:20
alexandreaftertaf: So I'm tweaking around with different frequencies. Until now, I get it to work @ 60Hz with HorizSync 28-49 and VertRefresh 43-72...02:20
aftertafhehe did you get it with dpkg-reconf?02:20
minimecodat: how did you do that?02:21
ejofeedooglus: i want it accessed from other distros02:21
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alexandreaftertaf: dpkg-reconfigure got me on the way. I compared the xorg.conf it gave me with my original. The only noticeable difference was in the refresh rates.02:21
ejofeesoundray, dooglus: realvnc or tightvnc?02:21
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alexandreaftertaf: (and in the fact that i had already filled in 1024x768)02:22
odatminimec, a little extension for firefox it also allows you to download the streaming media if you want to :) And i was finally able to get rid of that stupid pitdll gstreamer plugin that never works02:22
aftertafcooool02:22
aftertaf:)02:22
minimecodat: what's the name of the extension?02:22
alexandreaftertaf: So thanks a lot for the hinting. I'm still tweaking to get it at least at 75 Hz, which is what I had with Windows.02:23
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aftertafarmagetron rox :=)02:23
snpzalexandre, write down in xorg.conf VSync un H-Sync corrent frequencies02:23
snpzcorrect02:23
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odatminimec, mediaplayerconnectivity  you have to change some of the settings a little but its not hard at all  its all through a gui02:23
soundrayejofee, I use both with varying results. tightvnc often has the edge.02:23
alexandresnpz: How do I know the correct frequencies? Can I just write 75 Hz?02:24
odatminimec, if you get it and you want some help with the settings let me know02:24
snpzalexandre, no no no02:24
ejofeesoundray, dooglus: don't you experience some problems with fonts?02:24
snpzlook up in google02:24
odatlololol hahahaha fuck you microsoft lol02:24
minimecodat: found the extension. THX I gonna try that now :-)02:24
snpzhSync un vSync for your monitor02:24
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odatminimec, cool it really made my day02:25
soundrayejofee, no.02:25
alexandresnpz: All right, I'll try that. Otherwise, can't I write down the frequencies the screen tells me (front button) when I am in a working mode in another OS?02:25
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soundrayejofee, have you looked at /etc/vnc.conf?02:26
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rosen#flood02:28
Jaymacwow.. lot of updates today02:28
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snpzalexandre, u have to set those frequencies. After Ctrl+Alt+Backspace u will be able to change resolution in GUI mode02:30
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siriusnovahola02:30
rosen!clist02:30
ubotflurosen: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:30
rosenno habla ?02:31
ejofeesoundray: yes, i have. it shows the default vnc font paths are not adapted to the ubuntu default font paths, which is incredible, seeing that both kubuntu and tightvnc belong to the same ubuntu... project or whatever02:31
alexandresnpz, aftertaf: All right!! Even got me up to 85 Hz! Thank you guys!02:31
siriusnovahey guys I hav a stupid question but how do I get the Mail Notification App in the System Preferences menu to use SSL with my university imap server? the in-band SS/TLS and SSL/TLS boxes are greyed out :(02:31
soundrayI am planning to set up a kiosk-like system (limited access to programs, fixed configuration) with Ubuntu. I'm looking for hints, pointers and experiences.02:31
varsendaggerwhat is the deal with ubotu  does he have the flu?02:31
siriusnovaI dont want to use plaintext02:31
snpzalexandre, have fun02:31
snpz:)02:31
ananth126snpz: ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt +/- ?02:32
aftertafbksp02:32
snpzananth126, for xserver restart i use Ctrl+Alt+backspace02:32
snpz;)02:32
ananth126ok :)02:32
minimecodat: Oh Lord, it's a miracle!02:32
soundrayejofee, yeah, an incredible failure. Have you considered filing a bug?02:32
varsendaggersoundray,  should be pretty easy, what programs are you setting02:32
odatminimec, pretty cool huh02:32
siriusnovaanyone got any ideas?02:33
ananth126any idea why +/- wont change the screen resolution in xorg ?02:33
soundrayvarsendagger, firefox and a basic word processor, possibly AbiWord.02:33
odatminimec, i tweaked the setting quite a bit there is one in there that say display direct url that one allows you to right click on it and save it to your harddrive :) lololol yea02:33
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minimecodat: Yeah, I think, this is it.02:34
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minimecodat: I gonna check the settings soon. But now I just wanna play around a bit :-)02:34
odatminimec, now i uninstalled the gstreamer plugin pitdll because it sucks and i didn't want it to get in the way of this new firefox miracle02:34
afd_BockBilbo, I'm in X. I don't know what I did, but now X seems to be working again, complete with gnome :)02:34
rosen!list02:35
ubotflurumour has it, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:35
alexandreI've got to say, this channel is great! Especially the people in it (I'm thinking about aftertaf who seems to be everywhere helping everybody, and the rest of you of course)! It's sometimes a bit hard to follow with all the different conversations going on at the same time. But it's nice to know you can count on a real community. I'll come back from time to time and try to help people as well... THANK YOU SO MUCH!!02:35
varsendaggeryou could do a server install and then apt-get a small windows manager (fluxbox openbox even afterstep )  and then02:35
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BockBilboafd_, :)02:36
BockBilbogotta go02:36
BockBilbobye02:36
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aftertaflol alexandre im a half-newb who has picked a thing or two up, thats all. but thx :)02:36
rosen!listvals02:36
aftertafps right now i'm playing games :)02:37
snpzalexandre, that's the reason i'm here02:37
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rosen!listvals commands02:37
ubotfluFactoid search of 'commands' by value (12 shown): alias ;; msg the bot ;; cli ;; ask ;; wajig ;; msgthebot ;; ask #DEL# ;; commands ;; shell ;; cli #DEL# ;; bash ;; man.02:37
rosenaaah there we go !02:37
rosen!cli02:37
ubotfluI guess cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org02:37
varsendaggersoundray, that was for you02:37
siriusnovawhat apps do you guys use for mail notification?02:37
siriusnovaor applet02:37
soundrayvarsendagger, that would be a good way to do it.02:38
varsendaggerup there ^02:38
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varsendaggerand then you could add you new users CLI02:38
soundrayvarsendagger, I was wondering though whether anyone had gone the other way, stripping down Gnome or KDE.02:38
shanonxhow do I uninstall Gaim?02:38
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varsendaggerpretty easy setting permissions if you read the user man02:39
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varsendaggeryou could try to install the server then apt-get gnome02:39
rosenCan someone break this line up into smaller 'understandable' bits ? ... I'm trying to figure out the context in linux commands and this one is a little hard02:40
rosensudo tar zcvf apt.tgz /etc/apt/ /var/lib/apt/ /var/cache/apt/02:40
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soundrayvarsendagger, there's plenty of RAM and bogomips, but I want to reduce the risk of users messing with the configuration.02:40
varsendaggersoundray, or look aoround and find a slim version gnome in the debian sources02:40
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soundraySo there isn't anything like a Kiosk project that you know of?02:41
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rosenI figured out 'auth as root' - 'pack it as a *.tar' - 'use the file apt.tgz' ... but then there is 3 locations and I have no idea why they are there02:41
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ananth126rosen: it extracts just those directories in the tar file iirc02:43
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varsendaggersoundray, ther eprobably is i'd look into Ubuntu.org or freshmeat.net02:44
Jaymacubuntu.org is not ubuntu02:44
rosenananth126, aah so it's because it needs all three directories to make a backup of my new repositories !02:44
varsendaggersoundray, also http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php02:45
CaptainMorganhow can you send whole folders across web? any hosts? or?02:45
varsendagger* may or maynot work02:45
CaptainMorgansingle files sux02:45
ananth126rosen: /etc for the config files, /var/lib and /var/cache for the .deb and extracted files02:45
CaptainMorganI mean I can't burn anything to cd cuz Im in LIVE02:45
soundrayvarsendagger, thanks for your input. Sorry, I didn't mean to make you search the web for me. I was looking for someone who maybe had "been there, done that".02:46
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  tar02:46
CaptainMorgantar ?02:46
CaptainMorganwhat's that?02:46
soundrayvarsendagger, ...and bought the T-shirt :)02:46
ananth126tar = tape archive :)02:46
CaptainMorganomg02:46
aftertafCaptainMorgan:  type man tar, for command syntax02:47
aftertaf!tar02:47
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aftertafCaptainMorgan:  or fileroller.02:47
ananth126well, originally..... but it is used to club files together... along with a (de)compression tool like gzip/bzip202:47
rosenananth126, ah lovely ... I'm starting to understand a wee bit now :D02:47
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kwtmCaptainMorgan: tar will let you put a whole bunch of files into a single file.  It's not compressed, so you might want to "tar" a whole bunch of files, and then use "bzip2" or "gzip" to compress it02:47
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shanonxanyone know how to remove Gaim if .... "sudo apt-get remove Gaim" isnt working...?02:48
deltronshanonx: use lowercase02:48
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aftertafdeltron:    ;)02:48
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looksausis there a suggested way to sync Evolution calendar, tasks and mail for a really small office with basicly 1 laptop and 1 desktop to sync (eventually one or two more)?02:50
janne_Newbiehi fellows....i have some trouple with my kingston traveller....02:50
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janne_Newbiewhy doesnt my ubuntu see usb memory pen...02:50
aftertafjanne_Newbie:  check in /media for it02:50
janne_Newbiei got infos by using lsusb...02:51
janne_Newbiei just checked....there isnt usb dir....02:51
Jaymacmine is mounted in media/02:51
janne_Newbieyes ihave it too before i putted newest ubuntu...02:52
Jaymacwant to have a go at mounting it manually?02:52
varsendaggersoundray, no prob02:52
janne_Newbiehow to mount manually?02:52
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Jaymac2 secs02:52
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varsendaggerthose are just two great linux resources and kiosk is a project that really interest me02:52
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JaymacRight janne..02:53
Jaymacfirst off02:53
janne_Newbieyes...?02:53
Jaymaccreate a folder in /media02:53
janne_Newbieyes...?02:53
Jaymacsudo mkdir /media/usbkey or whatever02:53
Jaymacthen open up a text editor02:53
Jaymacsudo gedit /etc/fstab02:53
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Jaymacthe problem with this is that it will try to mount it every time you switch on the computer02:54
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janne_Newbieyes...?02:54
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Jaymachang on.. there's a better weay02:54
Jaymacway*02:54
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wssyxwhat is the Root PWD 02:55
rosenwhen I have switched /charset in Xchat, will it remember it after a reboot ?02:55
wssyxlist02:55
janne_Newbieok...whats better....thing to do it...(i dont have dir: etc/fstab)02:55
Jaymac/etc/fstab is a file not a directory02:56
janne_Newbieoh...sorry02:56
Jaymacand if you dont have it you don't have any mounted hard drives :)02:56
janne_Newbie=(02:56
varsendaggersoundray, hey i found a project called mozilla-kiosk that might be of relavance02:56
Jaymacmine is plug and play..02:56
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Jaymaci have a 512MB disgo usb key02:57
Jaymaci'm experimenting02:57
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janne_Newbiei have kingston traveller elite 1g....and before it worked fine (out of the box)02:57
aftertafJaymac:  it should automount02:57
ilba7r_hanne_Newbie it should work automatically when you plug the jumpdrive02:57
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janne_Newbie?02:58
janne_Newbiewhat jumpdrive?02:58
Jaymacnow what happens when you plug it in?02:58
janne_Newbienothing....comp seems to keep busy little time...02:58
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shanonxdeltron: Package gaim is not installed, so not removed02:58
shanonx0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.02:58
janne_Newbiebut nothing pops on screen02:58
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rosenhow can J2SE Runtime Environment for firefox be 60Mb worh of data :O ... that makes no sense at all02:59
Ngrosen: it's probably not ;)02:59
rosenThe following NEW packages will be installed:03:00
rosen  j2re1.403:00
rosen0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:00
rosenNeed to get 22.5MB of archives.03:00
rosenAfter unpacking 60.3MB of additional disk space will be used.03:00
Ngthat's a full java runtime, it's more than just a browser plugin03:00
Ngalso, that one is rubbish03:00
aeon17xrosen: Get the one from Sun.03:00
rosenoh goodiee :O03:00
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xychixxscan.c: In function open_window:03:00
xychixxscan.c:143: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit03:00
Ngit's blackdown and doesn't work very well, Sun's is far better. See the RestrictedFormats wiki page :)03:00
rosenthat's a little late now ;)03:00
xychixxscan.c: In function getaddresses:03:00
xychixxscan.c:152: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function malloc03:00
xychixxscan.c: In function main:03:00
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xychixxscan.c:213: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit03:00
xychixbugware03:01
aeon17xxychix: do not post it all here, use the pastebin.03:01
rosenI'm allready installing the other one ! bleh03:01
soundraycome on people, this place isn't for pasting03:01
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aeon17xrosen: it's up to you.03:01
Ngrosen: if it's just downloading it and hasn't started unpacking/setting up you can just ctrl-c it03:01
rosenoooh nice one Ng03:01
rosenthanks03:01
janne_Newbieanother guestion....what happent if i put my linux harddrive to other machine...and then i put it back to orginal machine...?03:01
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janne_Newbiedoes linux keep up changes?03:02
aftertafjanne_Newbie:  you'll break your ide cable ;)03:02
redguy|workjanne_Newbie: it will burn both computers, but not the harddrive03:02
soundrayvarsendagger, that's nice03:02
aftertafjanne_Newbie:  depends on hardware in both, but it "should" work (tm)03:02
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janne_Newbieso ubuntu "reads" ur hardware at start...?03:03
Ngsome of it, yes03:03
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redguy|workjanne_Newbie: made a stupid joke, sorry03:03
VVChi!03:03
janne_Newbieyes...i saw...=)03:03
redvelvethello all03:03
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aftertafjanne_Newbie:  that is the goal of the new version of ubuntu : dapper, with udev03:03
dxdemetriouhi03:04
janne_Newbiei just thinked this bec i did it....and maybe thats why my kingston doesnt work...03:04
redguy|workhi to all people who have said 'hi' or 'hello'03:04
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aftertafjanne_Newbie:  but it may do it now already, to a certain extent03:04
VVCany idea how do i use certain softwares (accounting pakage) in Ubuntu? I am currently using it in xp03:04
soundray!hi03:04
ubotfluhi!03:04
redvelvetI just installed ubuntu, and have been using fedora rarely in the past.  so i have some experiance03:04
redguy|workhi03:04
janne_Newbieudev?03:05
redvelvetbut when installing... it says I need a c compiler03:05
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aftertaf!tell redvelvet about be03:05
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VVCany expert here on ubuntu?03:05
aftertaf!build-essential03:05
ubotfluI haven't a clue, aftertaf03:05
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soundray!anyone03:06
ubotfluprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:06
ilba7r_!info build-essential03:06
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NgVVC: some windows software works in WINE, some doesn't03:06
ubotflubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB03:06
aftertafVVC:  what is the software, you have WINE which could work, or you can use a virtual machine if need be03:06
redvelvetdo i just put that command into the terminal?03:06
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dxdemetriouI want me too to work some programs in ubuntu 2.10, but some says that works on xp or 2000. I change the settings in winetools, but the setup says that is not ok the o.s. Any ideas?03:06
aftertafredvelvet:  yep. close synaptic first and install that, it will install things to make software03:06
Ngredvelvet: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:06
VVChow can i install virtual machine?03:07
VVCI have my accounting pakage which is windows based.03:07
redvelvetthanks man, you're a great help03:07
aftertafVVC:  qemu can install windows without it being on the pc for real. but wine would be a better first bet03:07
redvelvet(i dont think i have synaptic)03:07
aftertafredvelvet:   ;)03:07
VVCwere do i get wine.. ?03:08
redvelvethehehe 20,000 people log onto my computer03:08
aftertafVVC:  does it have any special dependendies? does it install a borland DBE or sth nasty like that?03:08
aftertaf!wine03:08
VVCno idea!03:08
NgVVC: what is it called?03:08
VVCTally03:08
Ngthere are wine compatibility lists on the web03:08
aftertaf!tell VVC about wine03:08
VVCusing ubuntu for the first time!03:09
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janne_Newbieu can get wine via synaptic...03:10
Ngwinehq.com suggests that tally won't work very well in wine03:10
Nghttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=32803:10
janne_Newbieand xwine to put it work in gui...03:10
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redvelvetaftertaf, i ran into a problem.  could not get lock /var/lib/dbkg/lock03:11
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soundrayVVC, switching to Ubuntu is an opportunity to get rid of programs that limit your freedom. Why not try to find original Linux software that suits your needs?03:11
redvelvetaftertaf, another process is using it03:11
aftertafhttp://itekinfomatic.com/ for tally... i doubt it would work in wine. maybe a vpc.03:11
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janne_Newbietested games....creatures 3 and Shadow Watch...03:12
soundrayVVC, admittedly in the case of accounting s/w, that can be difficult...03:12
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aftertafredvelvet:  ps -A | more and look for apt, dpkg, synaptic03:12
redguy||workshoot, disconnected in the middle of writing :/03:12
redvelvetokay, thanks.  didnt know I had it03:12
VVCdo u have any good software in could sitch too?03:12
soundrayVVC, check out http://lwn.net/Articles/149383/03:12
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VVCalso can u help me find site were i could try softwares available for ubuntu?03:13
gnomefreakhow hard is it to take a source code for a linux app and make it run on windows?03:13
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redguy||workgnomefreak: this depends on the app I think03:14
VVCis there a way i can use Google talk in ubuntu?03:14
gnomefreakok ty redguy|work03:14
janne_NewbieAnd anyway....but ur linux box to game machine...with these games...Enemy Territory, ET-F(fortress), True Combat Elite(ET mod)....Vendetta(space simulator)...03:14
soundrayVVC, the package manager lets you install everything on a 'trial basis'. I.e. if you don't like an app, you can remove it without a trace and not endanger your system stability.03:14
Nggnomefreak: depends on the application, but it generally won't be easy03:14
gnomefreakdamnit03:14
Nggnomefreak: it may have been ported already though03:14
rosenwget is the command for retrieving things from an URL right ?03:15
Ngquite a few things have been03:15
gnomefreakok ill look for one for her for windows than ty03:15
Nggnomefreak: what are you looking for?03:15
soundrayVVC, I know that Skype works in Ubuntu - not sure about Google Talk.03:15
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aftertafnot yet03:15
aftertafgaim will.03:15
VVCok..03:15
VVCgaim does not include google talk!03:15
ejofeesynaptic says "Preconfiguring packages ..." and it stops here. ("failed to apply all changes! scroll in the terminal buffer to see what went wrong.")03:15
redguy||workdoesn't google talk use jabber anyway?03:15
gnomefreakgperiodic its a wonderful app and me and a  freind are both taking same classes in jan and it would be really helpful to her also03:16
redvelvetyay its working03:16
Jaymacthe IM protocol with google talk works.. not sure about voip03:16
gnomefreakRedGhost, yes im pretty sure it does03:16
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Nggnomefreak: probably a bit specialised to havev been ported03:16
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redvelvetwhat do you guys suggest for an itunes like program on linux03:17
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Jaymacredvelvet i havent found anything decent yet03:17
ananth126redvelvet: amarok03:17
Jaymaci use mms03:17
Jaymacxmms03:17
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redguy||workgnomefreak: you might have luck with running it with cygwin...03:17
ananth126its not as good as itunes but at least the interface is quite similar03:17
redvelvetis rythmbox worth keeping03:17
janne_Newbiei use only rythm...=)03:18
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soundrayredvelvet, there was a review on LWN: http://lwn.net/Articles/160704/03:18
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redvelveti am going to try installing the other codecs... and see if I like it03:18
VVCcan i import my mails/addressbook from outlook to ubunti - evolution?03:18
soundrayI think the Grumpy Editor series is great...03:18
gnomefreakredguy|work,  it runs fine on linux i need it to run on windows and if im not mistaken cygwin makes windows games/apps run on linux03:18
ananth126rythmbox didnt recognize most of my mp3 files - not a valid audio stream :(03:18
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jimygchi03:19
Jaymacdoes amarok play m4a ok?03:19
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soundraygnomefreak, gperiodic depends on glib, gtk and other graphics libraries, which makes it difficult to port, even with Cygwin.03:19
redguy||workgnomefreak: nope, that is what wine does.03:20
gnomefreakcygwin doesnt allow you to play win games/apps on linux????????03:20
redguy||worksoundray: correct me if i'm wrong: running software with cywin requires recompiling, right?03:20
Ngsoundray: glib and gtk are already ported03:20
tucozwhat happened to ubotu?03:20
Ngsoundray: evolution/xchat/gaim all use them03:20
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gnomefreak!botsnack03:21
ubotfluthanks gnomefreak :)03:21
redguy||workgnomefreak: you are mistaking it with cedega perhaps03:21
gnomefreakubotfly yw :)03:21
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gnomefreakyes maybe sorry about that03:21
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soundrayredguy|work, unless it's already in the Cygwin repo's03:21
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Ngcygwin doesn't tend to be very graphical, does it?03:22
dxdemetriouhi. My messages are seen by others?03:22
Ngthings like gaim/xchat/evolution that have been ported are usually done as standalone ports03:22
soundrayNg, it'll still be a fair amount of work, not least because of the lib dependencies.03:22
Ngdxdemetriou: yes03:22
dooglusNg: cygwin includes x.org03:22
Ngdooglus: that's irrelevant, we're talking about ports here03:23
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dooglusNg: ports of what?03:23
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Ngsoundray: and as I said just now, most of the libraries are ported03:23
redvelvetinstalling plugins told me i need a gstreamer03:23
Ngdooglus: you don't run the windows port of gaim in an X server, it runs as a native window03:23
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Ngsoundray: in fact all of the libraries it depends on have been ported03:23
soundrayNg, I know what you said. gnomefreak will still have to do a fair amount of work if he wants to port gperiodic to Cygwin.03:23
dooglusNg: I was arguing with your "cygwin isn't graphical" statement/question03:24
the_REAL_SLIM_SHHi guys/gals?03:24
Ngsoundray: correct, although I still contend cygwin wouldnt be the correct approach03:24
Ngdooglus: ok03:24
redguy||workNg: yup, but it doesn't depend on cygwin03:24
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Ngexactly!03:24
the_REAL_SLIM_SHI am wondering if I can run PearPC on ubuntu 5.10? or if a .deb is available for it?03:24
dooglusNg: cygwin may look like it's just a terminal app at first glance, but it includes an X server and X apps, so yes, it's graphical too...03:24
redguy||workthe_REAL_SLIM_SH: ask uncle google03:24
Ngdooglus: ok, well we're talkig about native ports, so cygwin is still irrelevant03:24
redvelvetanyone know everything i need to install to get my rythmbox to play mp3's03:25
Ngredvelvet: you probably need the gstreamer0.8-mad package from universe03:25
the_REAL_SLIM_SHlol... good answer, I have and surprisingly, I don't see anything about ubuntu on the official PearPC site also03:25
dxdemetriouIs there another program like winetools that can try to install any program and not only from the list? If I try to install a program for 2000 or xp it says that the operating system is not ok, and it doesn't give the reason03:25
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redvelvetwill the debian version work?03:26
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soundraythe_REAL_SLIM_SH, search for a debian package.03:26
the_REAL_SLIM_SHthanks soundray!03:26
Ngredvelvet: it's in ubuntu's repositories. Have a look at the RestrictedFormats page in the ubuntu wiki03:26
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redvelvetthanks03:27
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teroedni:D03:28
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drcodehi all03:28
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drcodehow can I install in breezy xfce ver 4.2.3.203:28
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drcodethe apt-get say 4.2.2 is the last ver03:28
samuel_How can I run cgi scripts locally?03:29
redvelveti looked at the wiki, it said the file was in the repository.03:29
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redguy||workdrcode: any particular reason why you want 4.2.3 ?03:29
rosento refresh my gnome I use the killall command ? ... or will that just shut everything down and not reload it ?03:29
Jaymacanyone got amarok working with m4a?03:29
redvelvetim confused at what that is..03:29
drcodethe 4.2.2 get hung when I try to quit03:29
Ron_odrcode: you can install anything just like in gnome03:29
gjk?03:29
redguy||work!03:30
ubotfluSyntax error in line 1, redguy||work03:30
drcodek03:30
Ron_odrcode: look in settings > synaptic package manager...03:30
shinuanyone here compiled the newest k3b under breezy?03:30
Ron_oor use apt-get in a terminal window03:31
drcodethanx03:31
ejofeewhat is this error? "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file"03:31
ejofeeit broke my dpkg!03:31
aftertafejofee:  what were you installing?03:31
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ejofeeaftertaf: fuse / sshfs stuff03:32
aftertafshinu:  no, used the package03:32
ejofeeaftertaf: now it is uninstalled03:32
shinuim often getting : "growisofs did not exit cleanly" errors trying to burn dvdrws. but the files seem to be alright, just that it doesnt do the md5 check on the files :/03:32
aftertafejofee:  it needs a 'fuse' group03:32
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen to refresh my gnome I use the killall command ? ... or will that just shut everything down and not reload it ? --> Just press CTRL+ALT+BKSPC, it will restart gnome for you03:32
shinuaftertaf: i need a feature in the newest k3b... thats why i compiled03:32
ejofeeaftertaf: would you advise me to create that group?03:32
dooglusaftertaf: but it should have made one automatically03:32
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aftertafejofee:  ok. seems it has removed the group but the postremoval file mentions it.03:32
ejofeeit, who? dpkg?!03:32
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rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, hehe allright, I allready did the command though ;>03:33
aftertafdooglus:  yeah but on removal, maybe it removed it too fast03:33
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, living on the edge... or something03:33
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dooglussounds like a bug that needs reporting03:33
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: and what happens?03:33
aftertafyep03:33
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ejofeeaftertaf: why (on earth!) should dpkg now *always* need a group created by an app which i have uninstalled in the meantime anyway?!03:33
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rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, it reloaded gnome, just as I had hoped03:33
ejofeeaftertaf: now dpkg won't do anything at all!03:33
aftertafejofee:  what is the current state? it was being removed and it crashes, ?03:34
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: lol and thats what you wanted? right?03:34
dooglusejofee: i think dpkg knows that it hasn't completely nremoved fuse, and keeps trying to03:34
ejofeeaftertaf: adept, synaptic fail to work and install any further package03:34
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, yep .. all is fine and dandy .. now all I need to do is figure out how to install the sun java bit ... then my firefox should be all up to date03:34
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ejofeedooglus: is it a known issue for dpkg to be that insistent (in such a way that it will fail doing anything else)?03:35
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aftertafejofee:  in that case, go to   /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and edit the .postinst file for that package.....03:35
dxdemetriouCan I configure my mouse manually in ubuntu 2.10 in Gnome?03:35
aftertaffuse.postrm  i mean.....   ejofee03:35
ejofeeaftertaf: "that package" WHAT package? dpgk doesn't work with ANY package anymore.03:35
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: open your synaptic, goto Settings -> repos03:35
aftertafejofee:  the package that caused the problem is 'fuse', yes or no?03:36
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: then click on add and add the multiverse and universe, if you havent already done that03:36
ejofeeaftertaf: yes, but again... is it a known issue for dpkg to be that insistent (in such a way that it will fail doing anything else)?03:36
ejofeeaftertaf: i also want to understand the situation03:36
ejofeeaftertaf: (even if it's easy to quick fix it)03:36
aftertafejofee:  edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse.postrm   and remove any references to removing a group called fuse, then try again, with sudo apt-get -f install.03:37
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gnomefreakwhats the easiest way to move files from desktop to home folder?03:37
doogluscommunication breakdown?03:37
ejofeeaftertaf: ok, thank you03:37
aftertafejofee:  dpkg needs things to be completely ok on install:removal, otherwise it will fail03:37
aftertafejofee:  not ideal, i admit ;)03:37
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, I think I did that allready .. allthough i did it manually (to learn ;P )03:37
the_REAL_SLIM_SHthen do this in shell: sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package03:37
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ejofeeaftertaf: so it's specially designed to either force perfect functionality or fail to work?03:38
aftertafgnomefreak:  mv ~/desktop/file ~/03:38
ejofeeaftertaf: ok, got it. not ideal, indeed, as long as not (quite) practical.03:38
aftertafejofee:  could well be......03:38
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: you also need to download a file from sun's website, let me get the URL03:38
gnomefreakaftertaf, just change word file to filename?03:38
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aftertafejofee:  there are command options you can use to force it to process despite the error,    see dpkg -force -help03:39
dooglusgnomefreak: and s/d/D/03:39
aftertafgnomefreak:  yep03:39
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: go here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp and download the package you need (make sure you download the .bin file)03:39
redvelvetHAHASHDOAIFH im playing mp3's!!!03:39
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, was I supposed to run the fakeroot command aswell ?03:39
aftertaf*  dpkg --force-help even03:40
ejofeeaftertaf: then again, why should *that* operation take a higher priority? what if the very thing i am doing would be to simply uninstall that app, which would solve the problem at a lower level? it's silly it doesn't allow me to do *anything* else.03:40
dxdemetriouAm I doing something wrong and no one talks to me?03:40
Quizzerare thier any tutorials for newbies in setting up a domain name with linux etc..03:40
redvelvetthanks for all your help03:40
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: yes you need to run the command like I gave you... if you get any errors, that means you dont have universe and multiverse03:40
aftertafdooglus:  thx, i didnt notice the d/D thing, i did press shift, honest ;)03:40
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osfamerondxdemetriou: it's pretty busy here, try asking again03:40
gnomefreakit tells me no suck file/directory and i even tried it both as cd'ed in desktop and no cd at all03:40
soundrayejofee: are you looking for help or for an opportunity to moan about software that has been given to you for free?03:40
Ngfreudian slip? ;)03:40
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rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, hmm .. allright then I guess I havent done it correctly 'cause I get this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:41
rosenE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:41
rosen .. and I'm only running terminal, firefox and xchat03:41
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dxdemetriouok. I thought that is not ok to ask the same think again :)03:41
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: this happens when you have more than one instance of apt-get running (perhaps, you have synaptic running, make sure you quit synaptic before you run apt-get)03:41
aftertafejofee:  cos dpkg maintains a state, and removing a file is also to have the postrm script run to cleanly remove it. if this script is buggy, there will be problems. this is a bug, and a problem with the package, not with dpkg exactly. any other way of working would leave things in a non stable state.03:41
Ngrosen: are you using sudo?03:41
dxdemetriouhow can i configure the mouse manual in gnome?03:42
aftertafejofee:  but it is frustrating to not understand this and have error messages all over when you install sth else03:42
rosenNg, yeah03:42
gnomefreakdooglus,  what is s/d/D?03:42
redguy||workdxdemetriou: explain "configure the mouse manual"03:42
dooglusgnomefreak: shorthand for "replace 'd' with 'D'"03:42
dooglusgnomefreak: it's "Desktop", not "desktop" y'see?03:43
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ejofeesoundray: your comment is not fair. the way you put it is simply mean. all i want to do is learn and i simply want to make sure i am not insane. or i want to find answers to some questions which make us human. like "why".03:43
gnomefreakoh ok ty03:43
aftertafgnomefreak:  my error on typology03:43
markyHey all03:43
aftertafhey yourself03:43
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dxdemetriouI have mouse with roll in kvm, and if I start the gnome some times works and some times no03:43
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, my bad ... synaptic was running aswell without me noticing it03:43
dooglusgnomefreak: you should be able to "cd ~/Desktop" and then "mv <filename> .." to move things up a level03:43
aftertaf!tell gnomefreak about cli03:44
soundrayejofee, okay, I understand that. It just seems to me that you aren't giving the system and the people who try to help you enough a) patience, and b) credit.03:44
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: no worries, just close synaptic and then run this command again: sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package03:44
gnomefreakty i got it once i changed the d to a D03:44
gnomefreakty03:44
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH,  yep it's done with no errors this time ;) ... and I'm downloading jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin right now03:44
aftertafejofee:  any way, that is why dpkg will spit errors, if a package has a bad install/remove script03:45
dxdemetriouI want to setup the drivers for the mouse to not be pnp03:45
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ejofeesoundray: maybe it's just a matter of style. sometimes i may be somewhat complaining and alarmist. but these attitudes actually hide my desire to understand.03:45
aftertafejofee:  you could also try sudo addgroup fuse then sudo apt-get -f install03:45
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redguy||workdxdemetriou: sorry, don't know how to help you out03:45
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: perfect, once the download is complete, then cd into the directory where you have downloaded the .bin file03:45
soundrayejofee, for example, dpkg is a very mature and stable system. It makes sense for it to flag a failure if the consistency of its database is under threat, though. I think that this is a Good Thing(tm)...03:45
dooglusejofee: do you remember the name of the package which caused this mess in the first place?03:46
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, allright, it's a big file though ... god bless my 10MB connection03:46
aftertafsoundray:  me too, but when you dont understand how/why it is frustrating and you have the impression the whole thing will burst into flames ;)03:46
aftertafdooglus:  fuse03:46
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ejofeeaftertaf: one more question, then (as i just took a look at the folder with postinstall scripts etc.): how long are they kept there and who deals with regularly cleaning that folder? i have many scripts belonging to packages which have already been uninstalled03:46
dooglusaftertaf: I don't think there's a package called 'fuse'03:46
aftertaffuse-source / fuse-utils03:47
netventuredooglus: there is a fuse library, FYI03:47
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aftertafthx netventure  ;)03:47
aftertaf:P03:47
dooglusnetventure: I know.  there are several fuse-related packages.  I'm asking which one fails to uninstall.03:48
redguy|workyay! got my nick back!03:48
soundrayejofee, I hope you get it sorted. But with aftertaf helping, the chances are excellent :)03:48
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: after cd'ing into the .bin directory, type this: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, this will create a .deb file for you in the same directory03:48
aftertafsoundray:  i wish....... :] 03:48
dxdemetriouIs there program to works with wine for xp programs?03:48
ejofeesoundray: i agree. and this is what i was trying to make sure the explanation was. (however, the error could have been better expressed, so that a newbye could understand it... i am a newbye to anything debian)03:48
gnomefreakok next question :( is there a way to test to see if make is working right? its installed i checked that but when i go to compile links2 make doesnt do anything03:48
gnomefreakit tells me no target03:48
aftertafgnomefreak:  do you have build-essential installed?03:48
ejofeesoundray: thank you (yes, (s)he's been of help)03:48
gnomefreakaftertaf, yes03:49
aftertafgnomefreak:  try ./configure first03:49
gnomefreakaftertaf, been there done that03:49
aftertafor ./autogen.sh03:49
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dooglusI notice that /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse-utils.postrm, line 18, uses "is_true" which isn't defined to anything.  could that be the problem?03:49
redguy|workgnomefreak: did you read the INSTALL file (or README) in the source tarball ?03:49
silfarBoa tarde pessoal03:49
gnomefreakok what is ./autogen.sh?03:49
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aftertafredguy|work:  that was my next sugegstion ;)03:49
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rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, righto .. 90% done03:49
netventuredooblus: did'nt meant to be as smart ass03:49
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gnomefreakredguy|work,  yes and this is my third time compiling it worked first 2 times not working this time03:50
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aftertafgnomefreak:  autogen is a script to do good things before making03:50
redguy|workgnomefreak: and you followed the instructions in that file, right?03:50
Amaranth`23meg: I don't know what I did. *shrug*03:50
ejofeeaftertaf, soundray: one more question (as i just took a look at the folder with postinstall scripts etc.): how long are they kept there and who deals with regularly cleaning that folder? i have many scripts belonging to packages which have already been uninstalled03:50
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the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: once you have created the .deb file, all you have to do is install the debian pkg. type: sudo dpkg -i new_package_of_jdk.deb03:50
`23meglol03:50
akurashy--- Amaranth sets exempt on `23meg!*@unaffiliated/23meg/x-00000000103:50
Nggnomefreak: there's a links2 package in ubuntu - that no good?03:50
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akurashythat03:50
kakeiany one knows if exist a wine for ubuntu 64 bits version?03:51
Amaranthakurashy: oh03:51
gnomefreakredguy|work, yes and on the site and had johndarkhorse i think is his name help me03:51
`23megcool, thanks03:51
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Amaranthakurashy: i guess i found the right button03:51
akurashy:)03:51
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: this will install java for you, restart the Firefox and you should be good to go! :)03:51
aftertafejofee:  not sure....... sudo apt-get clean will purge it all, maybe that folder too.03:51
redguy|workNg: that was my next suggestion :] 03:51
gnomefreakng not really more options when compile from source03:51
Nggnomefreak: recompiling the ubuntu package would be easier than building from source03:51
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Ngit's just a text browser though, how many options can there be?! ;)03:52
redguy|workkakei: AFAIK there's no wine 64 bit version at all03:52
aftertafgnomefreak:  tried make uninstall?  have you got too many versions of automake installed? you can iirc remove all up to 1.703:52
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soundrayejofee, when you uninstall something, do you use the --purge flag?03:52
gnomefreakNg,  theres a graphical links2 browser03:52
dxdemetriouIs there program like winetools to works with wine for xp programs in synaptic?03:52
dooglusejofee: I don't know if that folder is ever cleaned out03:52
markylater chaps03:52
redguy|works/wine 64 bit version/64 bit version of wine/03:52
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gnomefreakok i will try that ty aftertaf03:52
mjrredguy|work, you're right, there isn't03:53
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Nggnomefreak: the ubuntu links2 package depends on libx11, so I'd say it includes some graphical stuff03:53
ejofeesoundray: well, i am still synaptic--level03:53
soundrayejofee, dooglus, in any case, I wouldn't expect a problem even if they were never cleaned out.03:53
ejofeeaftertaf, soundray: what is statoverride? it seems the error is actually located here!03:53
aftertafejofee:  its good to know some apt / dpkg commands too.... helps in those oh so wonderful 'sticky' moments.03:53
aftertafejofee:  i have no idea.... :/03:54
ejofeeaftertaf: i will learn some, certainly03:54
djib> would you advice installing the 686 version of the kernel if I have a pentium 403:54
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soundrayejofee, in synaptic, the difference is between "Remove" and "Completely remove"03:54
dooglusejofee: I just got the same error I think : "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file", right?03:54
aftertafdjib:  yes03:54
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redguy|workdjib: most certainly03:54
aftertafdooglus:  100% right03:54
oxezcan I keep a trace of all apps installed by 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' so I can remove everything installed at that time?03:54
aftertafadding fuse group can help?03:54
gnomefreakNg,  i dont remember being able to run links2 in graphical mode from ubuntus package03:54
Nggood god that's a horrible browser ;)03:54
Nggnomefreak: links2 -h03:54
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Ngerr -g03:54
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ejofeesoundray: oh, i didn't know "completely remove" meant that... i was just thinking it would also delete the package from the cache :)03:55
the_REAL_SLIM_SHlynx rocks!03:55
aftertafoxez:  you can choose to add it then save the selection for later consumption.03:55
gnomefreakits not links2 -g?03:55
dooglussoundray: on my system I have over 6000 files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/, taking 40Mb of disk space.03:55
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, ehm ok ... it's working hard in terminal at the moment .. heh, I got a few error messages but I think it corrected it by itself by falling back to default03:55
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redguy|workgnomefreak: yes it is, Ng made a typo03:55
ale3hsupdate in ubuntu comes to slow03:55
dooglussoundray: that's 40Mb I could do without being used in the / partition.03:55
ejofeedooglus: you wanted to use fuse, or just wanted to test it?03:55
dooglusejofee: I already use it.  I uninstalled it, then tried to reinstall it, and got that error.03:55
ejofeedooglus: (right, that is the very same error i am also getting)03:55
oxezaftertaf: in synaptic you mean?03:55
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: it might do that, but as long as you get a .deb file in the end, you should be fine03:56
aftertafoxez:  yep.03:56
dooglusejofee: I'll report it as a bug.03:56
kakeihow can i solve this kakei@kakei:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i cedega_4.4-2_i386.deb03:56
kakeidpkg: error al procesar cedega_4.4-2_i386.deb (--install):03:56
kakei la arquitectura del paquete (i386) no corresponde con la del sistema (amd64)03:56
kakeiSe encontraron errores al procesar:03:56
kakei cedega_4.4-2_i386.deb03:56
soundraydooglus, same here.03:56
dooglusejofee: once I've worked out what the problem is exactly.03:56
redguy|work!tell kakei about pastebin03:56
dooglussoundray: what?03:56
aftertafkakei:  1) dont paste, 2)03:56
ale3hsis it okay to install gkt-gnutella 0.96 deb by dpkg -i gnutella.deb command??03:56
Ngkakei: --ignore-arch and please don't paste errors in here03:56
aftertaf!es03:56
ubotfluHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:56
redguy|workkakei: don't paste in here03:56
oxezaftertaf: nice idea :) thanks03:56
ejofeedooglus: now i don't even know how safe it is to edit the statoverride...03:56
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, yeah got that now03:56
soundraydooglus, sorry03:57
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aftertafale3hs:  if its an ubuntu package, and not available in apt, then yes, if dependencies are met03:57
redguy|workale3hs: isn't gnutella in the repositories?03:57
the_REAL_SLIM_SHnow just do: sudo dpkg -i new_package_jdk.deb, restart firefox and you should be fine03:57
redguy|work!info gtk-gnutella03:57
ubotflugtk-gnutella: (shares files in a peer to peer network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.95.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1582 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB03:57
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, running  sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb now03:57
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ejofeedooglus: thank you (for the initiative to report it as a bug)03:57
aftertaf0.95 vs 0.9603:57
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redguy|worki see03:57
dooglusejofee: wait a while & I'll find a safe way to fix this03:57
rosenthe_REAL_SLIM_SH, nice .. no errors, thanks alot !03:57
dooglusejofee: don't delete anything just yet :)03:57
aftertafnice one dooglus :] 03:58
ejofeedooglus: i wonder why the maintainer doesn't see it, though. i guess this bug is quite visible...03:58
ale3hsredguy|work, nop, but I have installed many packages from dep, but I hav to find the libs they need as well.. it is some annoying that ubuntu does not update some major releases03:58
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ejofeedooglus: ok, thanks. i will be waiting for some advice from you (right?)03:58
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tech9inermisfit_toy moin matey!! ;] ] 03:59
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tech9inerstill snoozn eh misfit_toy .. molata palomine.. Ciao 4 now ;]  [of course So Sorry ya missed me! ;] ] 04:00
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gib8hi i tried seahorse and sign a file of my own04:00
gib8when i open the file i will see tha signature04:01
gib8but how can i view the file?04:01
dooglusejofee: all you need to do is "sudo addgroup fuse" then install anything you like, then "sudo delgroup fuse"04:01
gib8becouse now its an: data.pdf.sig04:01
dooglusejofee: that will let dpkg carry out the action it's trying to do, and then it will forget about it.04:01
ejofeedooglus: oh... so it's trying to remove a group which doesn't exist (anymore)?04:02
dooglusejofee: sorry, I'm not right there...  I just tried it, and it seemed to work, but after deleting the group the problem came back again!04:02
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dooglusejofee: what I don't understand is why it is still trying to run the fuse-utils.postrm script04:03
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mmolinaholas04:04
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Ngdooglus: if the postrm script fails it will be run again next time because the package is in a state where it wants to be removed, but isn't04:05
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Ngso apt will have another go04:05
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Ngwhen you dpkg -l, the first two characters indicate the current state and the desired state04:05
mmolinaholas04:05
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mmolinahay alguien que quiera hablar un rato04:06
dooglusNg: right.  but it's succeeding I think04:06
robotgeek!es04:06
ubotfluHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:06
ejofeedooglus: i erased some of those scripts04:06
ejofeedooglus: before doing what you told me04:06
ejofeedooglus: and now it seems to work04:06
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dooglusejofee: just erasing the fuse-utils.postrm script would probably have fixed it.04:07
dooglusejofee: don't forget to remove the fuse group if you created it04:07
Ngdooglus: I'd guess otherwise - perhaps it's succeeding, but not returning zero04:07
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gnomefreakok its telling me cant find makeinfo and ./configure is not the only one that cant find it im looking in synaptic anything i should look for wording wise?04:07
Ngwhich apt would see as a failure04:07
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mmolinaalguien de chile04:07
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Nggnomefreak: are you searching names and descriptions in synaptic?04:07
gnomefreaknames04:08
Nggnomefreak: texi2html looks like it have makeinfo04:08
redguy|workgnomefreak: please read the INSTALL file04:08
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gnomefreakty Ng04:08
djibhello04:08
Nggnomefreak: ah, no, I'm wrong, it doesn't04:08
djibI'm trying to follow this tutoriel04:08
djibhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=383244&postcount=2104:08
Nggnomefreak: it just mentions it in the description04:08
djibbut CC=gcc-3.4 return an error04:08
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djibsudo: CC=gcc-3.4: command not found04:08
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djibwhat shall I do ?04:09
the_REAL_SLIM_SHrosen: no problem ;)04:09
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dooglusNg: if that was the case wouldn't dpkg complain?04:09
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dooglusNg: apt-get isn't seeing a failure if I create the fuse group04:09
Ngdooglus: I would expect so, but I haven't seen whatever errors you guys are getting04:09
redguy|workdjib: you are not following that guide04:09
platostry sudo su first04:10
platosand then type CC=gcc-3.404:10
djibredguy|work: what do you mean ?04:10
djiboh ok04:10
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ejofeedooglus: OOPS, now i am getting the same error again04:11
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ejofeedooglus: i guess it fell in love with the fuse group and now there should be some eternal marriage between dpkg and fuse... :)04:11
ejofeedooglus: any solution to this?04:11
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dooglusejofee: right.  I think the problem isn't with any particular postrm script, but with the fact that the dpkg database has references to the fuse group in it after the fuse group has gone.04:11
Paradossohow do you get the "you have new mail" message in an ubuntu term?04:12
Chousukeif someone sends you mail inside the system04:12
gnomefreakredguy|work,  i did read it you know what its no help but ty for all your help04:12
dr_willisParadosso,  thats a feature of bash - that can be set or disabled.. but i forget how. :P04:12
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dooglusejofee: the fix is to:    sudo bash -c 'addgroup fuse; dpkg-statoverride --remove /usr/bin/fusermount; delgroup fuse'04:12
Paradossothanks anyway dr_willis04:12
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Paradossoand thanks dooglus04:13
gnomefreakhere is the install file http://links.twibright.com/download.php04:13
dr_willisParadosso,  it checks the mbox or somthing each time you get a prompt.  - i saw it in the "Bash" book by Oreialy. :P but i skimmed that chapter.04:13
Nggnomefreak: are you still really sure you don't want to rebuild the ubuntu package? ;)04:13
bretzelHi there, it seems to be very hard for me to enable TV out from my nvidia 6200 in post ubuntu installation...04:13
trappistParadosso: see the MAILPATH and MAILCHECK environment variables in the bash man page04:13
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gnomefreakNg,  if i have to use make its not gonna matter make isnt working right04:13
Nggnomefreak: except that apt can install dependencies required to rebuild one of its packages04:14
the_REAL_SLIM_SHGuys/Gals: I want my ubuntu machine to login people that have accounts created on our Win2k3 domain controller. I am sure that I have to use Samba somehow, but not exactly sure what I should look for and where?04:14
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gnomefreakng you mean apt-get build-dep?04:14
redguy|workgnomefreak: ok, what does happen in step 5 ?04:14
Ngyes04:14
ejofeedooglus: what is statoverride?04:14
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freemanenis there any god screen recording program for ubuntu?04:15
gnomefreakstep 5 i get the first few things are goo but makeinfo it cant find04:15
dooglusejofee: when fuse-utils gets installed, it makes dpkg fall in love with the fuse group.  and when fuse-utils gets uninstalled, it tries to break up the marriage.  but by then the fuse group may have vanished.  and so it's unable to get the divorce to go though.04:15
gnomefreakand the last thing is openssl fails04:15
dooglusejofee: `stat overrides' are  a way to tell dpkg  to use a different owner or mode for a file when a package is installed.04:15
platosthe_REAL_SLIM_SH: this might help you : http://www.wyckedone.net/index.php?cat=1204:15
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the_REAL_SLIM_SHplatos: Thanks man!04:15
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platoshehe google is your friend :)04:16
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redguy|workgnomefreak: ok, then. lets's see wha package brings makeinfo in. apt-file search makeinfo04:16
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the_REAL_SLIM_SHplatos: I did try google, but maybe I wasnt searching the *right* keywords!04:16
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gnomefreakinvalade search04:16
ejofeefolks, i have a question: they say enabling root and running ubuntu admin utilities from root could break them. what if i disable root and then "sudo xterm" and run any admin tool from that xterm session -- would that be the same as though running them from (enabled) root?04:17
redguy|workgnomefreak: hrmmmmmm, no makeinfo here...04:17
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gnomefreakcant install it either :(04:17
dooglusejofee: pretty much04:17
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gnomefreakthats why i asked what im looking for04:17
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bamboozlehi04:17
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dooglusejofee: but anyway, most admin utilities are supposed to be run as root.  it's things like IRC, web, email, etc that shouldn't be run as root.04:18
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redguy|workgnomefreak: hmm04:18
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ejofeedooglus: what if i use sudo from root?!04:18
xkahnejofee: I would be surprised if "running ubuntu admin utilities from root" could cause any harm.04:19
ejofeexkahn: well, that's what they say!04:19
xkahnejofee: If you are really concerned, you should be able to figure out the differences.04:19
xkahnejofee: try this:04:19
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xkahnejofee: sudo set04:19
redguy|workejofee: scary things will happen when you go to sleep04:19
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ejofeeredguy|work: why...?04:19
ejofeeredguy|work :)04:20
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xkahnejofee: His point is that these are tales to scare you into doing something the correct way.04:20
ejofeexkahn: thank you for the suggestion04:20
dooglusejofee: there's no need to use sudo from root - sudo makes you root, and root is already root.  it has no effect.04:20
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dooglusxkahn: most admin utilities can cause harm in one form or another.  that's why only the admin is allowed to run them.04:20
xkahnejofee: Of course, ubuntu has very strict rules about X permissions.04:21
xkahnejofee: So maybe that was what "they" meant.04:21
xkahnIt's easy to lose X perms.04:21
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ejofeexkahn, redguy|work: i thought so! i thought it was just some sorta scarry tale. (i have recently come from a distro which doesn't disable root by default)04:21
xkahndooglus: My point is that there are environment variables that are different depending on how you become root.04:21
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kakeihow can i run 32bits aplications (including i386) on ubuntu6404:22
Ngkakei: install ia32-libs04:22
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xkahndooglus: it's possible that a tool only works one way, by depending on those values.04:22
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ejofeexkahn: "sudo xterm" exports the display just fine04:22
xkahnIt's just very unlikely.04:22
xkahnejofee: yes.04:22
ejofeexkahn: it's su that doesn't04:23
gnomefreakyou know i was thinking last few times i did this i had installed links2 from apt im wondering if the makeinfo and openssl is in there and they dont come seprate? but you would think if compiling from source code you wouldnt need to install ubuntu package of it04:23
redguy|workgnomefreak: makeinfo is in texinfo04:24
xkahnejofee: Notice that with sudo, the HOME environment variable isn't effected?04:24
xkahnwith su it is.04:24
egytrackhow can i change screen resolution to something not shown in there [ System > Preference  > screen resolution ]  Only 2 Shown04:24
xkahnwell, with su - anyway.04:24
Kyralxkahn: sudo -i04:24
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ejofeexkahn: so maybe sudo does what su -m does.04:24
redguy|workgnomefreak: you need makeinfo to build it, not to run it04:24
gnomefreakyes i know that04:24
egytracklittle help in screen resolution plz04:25
PupenoHello.04:25
gnomefreakbut thats the only thing im doing different04:25
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Paradossotrappist, I saw the MAILPATH and MAILCHECK variables, it seems I should already have the standard notification in a term, which I have not04:25
Paradossoany hints?04:25
redguy|workejofee: sorry, was going to make up a scary story, but it would take too long04:25
redguy|workgnomefreak: you got texinfo yet?04:25
egytracki only have 800X600 and 640X480 how i can add more ?04:25
gnomefreakim doing that now04:26
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Kyralegytrack: is your monitor capable of more?04:26
MaFiaBoY!tell egytrack about fixres04:26
kakeiNg i have all the ia32-libs but i keep not able to 'dpkg -i something_i386.deb04:26
fredl_hi everybody. I seem to have lost my trashbin on my desktop. Any way to get it back there?04:26
PupenoI am in need of updated packages for Haskell, I am planning to backport those on Dapper which are updated and/or update them as necesary. Should I use my own separate repository ? Is there any interest in having this on breezy-backports ?04:26
ejofeeredguy|work: please make a shorter version of it. i am interested :)04:26
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egytrackKyral , Yes04:26
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bozelhello04:27
Ngkakei: even with --ignore-arch?04:27
bozeli ve a problem04:27
MaFiaBoYkakei > try with sudo...04:27
bozeli cant install ubuntu on my notebook04:27
gnomefreakthis time found makeinfo04:27
bozelDell Latitude D61004:27
bozelcan anybody help me?04:27
MaFiaBoYbozel > what exactly is the problem ?04:27
minimeconfire_nux:04:27
kakeisudo dpkg -i --ignore-arch something.deb?04:27
Ngkakei: or maybe I mean --force-arch, I forget which option it is04:28
gnomefreakstill errors on OpenSSL04:28
bozelafter i install the kernel04:28
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fredl_hi everybody. I seem to have lost my trashbin on my desktop. Any way to get it back there?04:28
bozelit stops at 36% or so04:28
bozeland says cant install package "Linux i368"04:28
kakeiNg 'arch' is a unknow function04:28
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Ngkakei: try --force-architecture, or see dpkg's man page for the exact option04:29
redguy|workgnomefreak: got openssl and libssl-dev ?04:30
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fredl_I've set up autofs so I can cd into /net/<systemname>/share....04:30
fredl_but on startup, obviously nothing can be seen in /net04:30
fredl_is there a way that file browser *can* see what's there?04:31
MaFiaBoYbozel > certainly a bad CD04:31
gnomefreaki had the dev but i didnt have openssl and when i apt-get install it it doesnt find it but i found it in synaptic04:31
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redguy|workfredl_: you might want to create symlinks somewhere, that's the only way I can think of to make it work as you want it04:32
fredl_hmm that's an idea....04:32
roycewhen I try to resize the partition on my hard drive to install ubuntu the system freezes, the hard disk is formated ntfs and has a mjority of it empty04:32
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fredl_pretty decent idea actually. as long as you know what systems will export filesystems, just make symlinks for those. tnx redguy.04:33
redguy|workgnomefreak: you sure that you didn't misspell openssl ?04:33
gnomefreaki used caps for the ossl :(04:33
redguy|workfredl_: np04:33
gnomefreaklike they say it in ./configure04:33
gnomefreakstill not found :(04:33
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redguy|workfredl_: you might make a different dir configured with autofs, and put symlinks in your /net dir04:34
kakeiNg ermm didnt04:34
kakeiwork04:34
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fredl_the whole removable devices stuff is also set up quite nicely in Ubuntu BTW04:34
fredl_well it's actually GNOME ofcourse, but I never used to run GNOME on my debian box04:35
redguy|workgnomefreak: hrm, libssl-dev is installed?04:35
gnomefreakyes04:35
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redguy|workfredl_: what kind of shares you want to access? NFS stuff?04:36
gnomefreak0.9.7 version of libssl04:36
gnomefreak-dev04:36
fredl_redguy - yeah.04:36
redguy|workgnomefreak: libssl-*dev* ?04:36
gnomefreakyes in synaptic they are one under the other both installed looking at both04:36
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redguy|workfredl_: maybe there is another, nicer way to do it with gnome's virtual filesystem04:37
gnomefreaki just marked libopenssl-ruby1.9 but not really sre if thats gonna help04:37
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fredl_well I'll have to figure that out later redguy, gotta dash now04:37
redguy|workgnomefreak: tha most propably won't help04:38
redguy|works/tha/that/04:38
gnomefreaki kind of figured that but i have everything else it depends on04:39
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redguy|workgnomefreak: you might look into configure.sh and see what it is looking for when checking for openssl and then look up the package with these files with apt-file search04:40
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gnomefreakok ty redguy|work04:40
egytrackhow to solve the proplem with taskbar , i have long Xchat down in task bar04:40
redguy|workgnomefreak: can't figure of anything more, sorry04:41
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egytracki mean Xchat Square too long04:41
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egytrackin taskbar .. anyone understand me ?04:42
egytrackyou know what i mean , why it's too tall04:42
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MaFiaBoYroyce > NTFS resizing is a complicated matter, the best tool for it imo is DiskDrake (it is Mandrake/Mandriva's intallation program's partitioning tool)04:42
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derfis there a known issue with ubuntu's NFS implementation that causes it to take >2 minutes to mount a filesystem over NFS?   I've tried mounting filesystems from ubuntu off of redhat, suse and ubuntu NFS servers, and all of them are consistently slow. redhat clients can mount the same nfs exports nearly instantly. dmesg on the ubuntu client complains "portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out", but I don't know why the system is even looking at l04:44
marino_hello from italy04:44
AlexNoobHola04:44
roycethanks MaFiaBoY , have u ever used qtparted, it's on linux resue cd i'm d/l now, to get the other one, will i need to aqire the madrive install iso's?04:44
Kyralroyce: the Parted family should be able to take care of it04:44
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tRSSKyral: when I run parted, all the partitions are locked. is it because Parted is not being run as root?04:45
KyraltRSS: Bingo04:45
royceKyral: does that set of tools have a bppt loader program, i just really don't wish to loose my current system04:45
Kyraland you need to umount the drive04:45
MaFiaBoYroyce > yes I have. I haven't been able to resie anything with it :/04:45
royce*boot04:46
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KuyaedzYou can't resize/edit a partition that is currently mounted.  You'll need to unmount &/or run from a live CD04:46
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Oli4hi all04:46
royceMaFiaBoY: can u point me in the direction of the tool u use?04:46
MaFiaBoYroyce > it's the one I told you04:47
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Oli4is it a known problem that a breezy netinstall has a package conflict between lubesd0 and libesd-alsa0 ?04:47
MaFiaBoYI've downloaded Mandriva"s isos just or this :p04:47
MaFiaBoYfor*04:47
Oli4it's impossible to do the netinstall, because baseconfig fails...04:47
rosenit seems I cannot apt-get libdivx4linux ... any other divx plugins out there ?04:48
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valentijnHi, did anyone here succeed in a Ubuntu 5.10 netinstall?04:50
Oli4lib-esd0 and libesd-also0 I meant04:51
valentijnFor 5.4, we had no problems, but 5.10 fails because base-config new bails out, telling me ...04:51
valentijn... it's trying to install both libesd0 and libesd-alsa004:51
valentijn(which it can't, for obvious reasons)04:51
twixmrhi.i have a problem with the nvidia-driver. if i install it, i don't get a signal after the boot is done. can someone help me?04:52
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Kuyaedzvalentijn: what error are you getting? package not found?04:52
valentijnNope, it bails out with a package conflict04:52
valentijnWait, I'll reproduce, just a second04:53
tRSSKyral: how can I start Parted with root powers from shell?04:53
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valentijn... choosing language, now it's "preparing for installation", after which...04:53
minimecvalentijn: are you doing a clean installation?04:53
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valentijn... "Er was een probleem bij het installeren van de gekozen programma's"04:53
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valentijnYep, doing a clean netinstall on a crips, clean harddrive.04:54
royceMaFiaBoY: would the free mini cd still have the tools I need, that would be really great if it does04:54
valentijnHistory: had a fine X40 IBM with 5.4 (netinstalled without problem)04:54
valentijnUpgraded to 5.10 without problem.04:54
soundrayOli4, valentijn, you both seem to have the same problem. Is it a coincidence that you are both in .nl?04:55
valentijnHarddisk broke down last week, got new one, tried netinstall04:55
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minimecvalentijn: ok. so I can't help you :-( I had a problem once with a debian netinstall that failed, because I used an old /var partition. The NetInstaller does not love that...04:55
valentijnWell, no, Oli4 is fixing the same problem04:55
valentijnon same laptop04:55
MaFiaBoYroyce > dunno04:56
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soundrayvalentijn, okay...04:56
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MaFiaBoYI use old Mandrake 10.0 CDs I downloaded hen Mandrake was still free04:56
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valentijnwhere do the package selections come from04:57
ThanatermesisMicrosoft Windows loves Ubuntu ? or bill gates is trying to confuse to the ppl about the UBUNTU Logo for continue their monopol ? (oh, ubuntu is from windows :))04:57
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twixmri don`t get a signal on my tft after i have installed the nvidia-driver.04:58
soundrayvalentijn, perhaps you want to try a server install, and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or whatever you need.04:59
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Thanatermesishttp://spaces.msn.com/editorial/ES-ES/images/logo.html/Spaces_icon1.gif <---------04:59
Thanatermesiswhat is this ? :)04:59
valentijnsoundray: that sounds like a good workaround for now05:00
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DonC_82hi leutz05:00
trappistThanatermesis: wow05:00
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valentijnHowever, where should the dependency problem come from?05:00
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Thanatermesistrappist yeah... wow, its MICROSOFT !!! ----> http://spaces.msn.com/?mkt=es-es05:00
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soundrayvalentijn, if a package depends on two packages that conflict with one another, that would be a bug. Please report!05:01
Oli4I wonder if the dependency conflict during a netinstall happens during *every* netinstall05:01
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redguy|workThanatermesis: hrmmm, worth mentioning to canonical05:02
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soundrayOli4, can you point me to the instructions you are following?05:02
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DonC_82hi guys. i use the mail-program evolution. can anyone tell me how i can export the contacts?05:02
bozelwhen i start ubuntu, the desktop is black05:02
valentijnsoundray: yes, but now how do I find out what's the conflict here?05:02
bozelwhat should i do?05:02
soundrayDonC_82, save them in vcard format. Most other programs can import vcards.05:02
valentijnI only know that base-config new stops, but I don't know where it selects the package list from05:02
twixmri have the same prob as bozel05:03
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tobi-wan[away] bozel: do you see gdm, where you can log in?05:03
DonC_82soundray: and can i import the vcards in evolution a later time?05:03
soundrayDonC_82, yes.05:03
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valentijnsoundray: I'll try an English install.05:04
DonC_82soundray: nice, thank you. and is a export of the emails possible to?05:04
Thanatermesisredguy|work the question is "why?", power of marketing or total desesperation ? or "MS don't have creativity" ? with money.. you have any creativity of the world...05:04
soldieruk400hi all05:04
_jasonhi can anyone explain to me what the following (the mapping part) means in my auth.log: Dec 12 20:43:15 localhost sshd[12745] : Address 209.126.160.243 maps to 4h169248.aspadmin.net, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT!05:04
valentijnMaybe there's a conflict in some of the NL language packages05:04
tobi-wan[away] bozel: phrased differently, what's the last thing you see _before_ the screen goes black?05:04
soundrayvalentijn, it's difficult to work out before you have installed a system. Not sure if switching to English will help.05:05
redguy|workThanatermesis: or maybe this a preliminary action to sue canonical for ubuntu logo05:05
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redguy|workThanatermesis: you can expect anything from these people05:05
Thanatermesisyeah, i vote about is a preliminary action... what next ?:)05:05
KuyaedzMS is a bunch of hacks05:05
Oli4soundray: well, valentyn is actually installing the machine, I'm brainstorming what could cause a package conflict during a netinstall05:06
soundrayDonC_82, I think Evolution stores mail in standard mbox format, with extensions in separate files. You can open mboxs with, e.g. mutt -f05:06
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_jasonThanatermesis, that's been on the forums and there is (german I think?) company that had a similar logo even before ubuntu05:06
twixmrtobi-wan[away] : the last screen i see is the boot-screen. i can't see the screen where i log in.05:06
redguy|workThanatermesis: or maybe msn spaces is crappy and they want people to assiociate crappiness with the logo representing three people holding hand in a circle05:06
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tobi-wan[away] twixmr: so, you do see the gdm login screen and can login, right?05:07
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soundrayOli4, you could find out the reverse-depends for both packages and look for common lines.05:07
soundrayOli4, I'll have a go...05:07
Oli4soundray: ok, thanks05:07
Kuyaedzsounds like as soon as GDM loads the new driver it goes black.  Did you make a backup of your conf?05:07
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redguy|workThanatermesis: but I'm hopefuly being paranoid :-)05:07
DonC_82soundray: i'm only a linux-beginner. i've never heard of mbox before. does it mean, the mails are stored on a central place? independent from the mail-program?05:08
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twixmrtobi-wan[away] : no i can't see the screen05:08
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Oli4DonC_82: mbox is a mailbox format05:08
gnomefreakssl is just for like paypal and crap right?05:08
twixmrtobi-wan[away] : but if i press (ctrl+alt+f1) i can see something05:09
tobi-wan[away] twixmr: ok..... when you press ctrl+mod+f1, do you see a console?05:09
twixmror f305:09
Oli4DonC_82: often mail is stored in ~/Mail/somefile and somefile is then in mbox format05:09
odatJust thought I would let anyone that wants to know how to get all streaming media (including wmv) to work with gstreamer and totem I stumbled upon a solution today if ya wanna know05:09
tobi-wan[away] twixmr: fine, then log in there05:09
ananth126DonC_82: mbox is the mail format used by older txt based mail programs... other ones like kmail/evolution have their own files but can read mbox files too05:09
Kuyaedzssl is used for a lot of things.  I use it on my server for secure email, secure admin pages, etc..05:09
valentijnsoundray, oli4: I'm currently installing the US version, netinstall as well. If that works then...05:09
twixmrtobi-wan[away] : how?05:09
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valentijn... we know that it's a NL language dependency that's wrong.05:09
tobi-wan[away] twixmr: there's a login console, right? it asks for your username05:09
trappistKuyaedz: ssl is for any network traffic you don't want everybody to read05:09
bozeltobi-wan[away] : i cant see it05:09
egytrackcould anyone know how to fix this ?05:09
soundrayDonC_82, the mbox-formatted mail file is in some folder (directory) that evolution accesses.05:09
egytrackhttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/848/taskbar0yv.jpg05:09
bozelits too fast05:09
gnomefreakKuyaedz,  so if i dont need the security for this browser than i dont need it for this one right?05:09
twixmrtobi-wan[away] : ok. i know. and then?05:10
bozel[ok] 05:10
soundrayDonC_82, you can copy it elsewhere and access.05:10
tobi-wan[away] twixmr: open /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for an error-message at the bottom05:10
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soundrayDonC_82, tied up right now, but I'll have a look later.05:10
tobi-wan[away] bozel: what is too fast?05:10
DonC_82soundray: ok, but how can i find out where this directory is?05:10
Kuyaedzgnomefreak: well the ssl is run on the server-end so unless you're putting together secure-http on a server...05:10
tobi-wan[away] bozel: when the screen goes blank, press ctrl-mod-f105:10
gnomefreakKuyaedz,  no im compiling links2 web browser05:11
bozelthe text05:11
Oli4DonC_82: if you know a certain phrase that is in your emails, try 'grep -r phrase .* *'05:11
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Oli4that searches through all files for 'phrase'05:11
bozelthere stands /dev/hda No such file or directory05:11
tRSSis there way to findout which packages were installed today?05:11
twixmrtobi-wan[away] : ok. i'll try. cu later05:11
Kuyaedzgnomefreak: I'm not familiar with links2 but you could try and skip it, yeah05:11
egytrackXchat Square too long check this picture i don't mean xchat if i open any program alone just see05:11
egytrackhttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/848/taskbar0yv.jpg05:11
egytrackthe picture05:11
DonC_82Oli4: right. ok. i'll try it :-)   thank you all05:12
gnomefreakok ty05:12
egytracku will know what i mean .. plz help05:12
tobi-wan[away] twixmr: eh.... ok :-D05:12
Kuyaedzgnomefreak: UNLESS, with that program, it uses it on your end as well to communicate with the ssl server side05:12
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gnomefreakthat i dont know but gives me a choice weather to enable ssl05:12
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gnomefreakit still gave me the error :(05:13
Kuyaedzgnomefreak: try including it then?05:13
gnomefreakKuyaedz,  i was05:13
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redguy|workgood lord! if I understand correctly the terms of use of the MSN spaces, you grant all rights to the material stored there to M$! This company is pure evil indeed05:13
bozeltobi-wan[away] : /dev/hda/ No such file or Directory05:13
gnomefreakive installed everything i can think of with openssl05:13
bozelthe last line05:13
Thanatermesisredguy|work welcome to the real world :)05:14
Kuyaedzredguy|work: send a link to those terms?05:14
Raskall-mobbozel: remove the final /05:14
Thanatermesisthe shepherds will be brutal while the ewes are stupid05:14
minimecodat: wb ... Well I played around with the plugin. I'm quiet satisfied with it. Can you tell me what 'check for embed media now' means?05:14
tobi-wan[away] bozel: !? where did you get that error message from?05:14
bozelStrg + Alt + F105:14
joachim-nwhoa. ..... GTFP just quit on me!05:15
valentijnsoundray, oli4: first stage install done, system is restarting...05:15
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bozelthere stands:05:15
valentijnAha, aha. Problem comes up again!05:15
redguy|workKuyaedz: http://privacy2.msn.com/tou/en-us/default.aspx05:16
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soundrayOli4, I can't track the conflict on my system. I suggest you file a bug against the installer.05:16
bozelStarting laptop_mode05:16
tobi-wan[away] bozel: did you do anything to the computer or was it a clean install? /dev/hda normally is your harddisk (without the trailing slash, was that a typo from your side?)05:16
soundrayDonC_82, still here?05:16
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DonC_82yes :-)05:16
bozel/dev/hda: No such file or directory05:16
_GNAM_what about torvalds position about gnome? http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2005121301326OSDTGN05:16
bozelclean install05:16
tobi-wan[away] bozel: well..... can you log in?05:16
bozelyes05:16
Kuyaedz_GNAM: I read that on slashdot.  I still don't agree.  Gnome is cleaner & simpler05:16
Raskall-mobbozel: do you have ide disk or sata/scsi disk? try /dev/sda05:16
bozeli think my hard disk is sda05:16
valentijnIt seems that the netinstall is broken in some way.05:16
KuyaedzKDE seems bloated05:16
Oli4_GNAM_: that's just thorvalds his meaning, we have free speech here05:17
odatminimec, i'm guessing that is an option if you have the automatic checking turned off and you know your on a page with embedded media you can do it manually05:17
Juhaztroll is a troll, doesn't matter if it's Linus that's trolling05:17
tobi-wan[away] *g*05:17
Oli4valentijn: same problem?05:17
redguy|workKuyaedz: under 605:17
bozelno05:17
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valentijnsame problem.05:17
bozelthere isnt any /dev/sda05:17
tobi-wan[away] there are both fast window managers and candy ones, we are free to choose05:17
Kuyaedzredguy|work: what site are you reading the terms?05:17
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tobi-wan[away] bozel: /dev/sda normally is a harddisk, tooo05:17
tobi-wan[away] bozel: where did you install ubuntu to?05:17
Kuyaedzredguy|wpork: sorry, missed it above05:17
Oli4valentijn: weird, you would expect that more people do a netinstall.....05:17
bozelon my hd05:18
minimecodat: Could be that. Let's try it :-) ...05:18
soundrayDonC_82, it seems that evolution stores its mail in /home/(yourname)/.evolution/mail/local -- check it out.05:18
bozelthird partition05:18
bozelext305:18
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DonC_82soundray: ok. thx !05:18
tobi-wan[away] bozel: fine.... what does ctrl-mod-f2 give you?05:18
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tobi-wan[away] bozel: we need a login :-D05:18
soundrayvalentijn, it may be a new problem, with libesd's version having changed recently.05:18
valentijnI have the following stuff running now (approx): /usr/sbin/base-config -i, which runs menu/pkgsel new, then ehr... well, I think the pkgsel gives the error05:18
bozelubuntu login:05:19
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KuyaedzMicrosoft may monitor your e-mail, or other electronic communications... (included in same terms)05:19
bozelshould i login?05:19
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refnumzxhaving problems with ssh pub/priv keys generate key pairs on server i want to ssh from put pub key on server i want to ssh too, and it still prompts me for password..ideas? chmod 700 on dirs and 600 on files.05:19
bozeli m logged in in F105:19
tobi-wan[away] bozel: yes, please05:19
bozelok05:19
bozelnow?05:19
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valentijnyep, pstree shows termwrap -- script -- script -- base-config -- pkgsel -- frontend -- pkgsel&whiptail05:19
Oli4so the list that pkgsel uses in netinstall has a conflict05:19
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hmpedersenright.. they gave me a new router..05:19
tobi-wan[away] bozel: open /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for an error around the end05:20
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hmpedersenand now.. my wlan card refuses to try and connect!05:20
DonC_82soundray: if i open my filemanager, i can't see a directory named "evolution" in my /home/(myname)-directory05:20
tobi-wan[away] bozel: and while you are at it, do the same for dmesg (dmesg | tail)05:20
Oli4DonC_82: .evolution (see the dot)05:20
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Oli4DonC_82: that thus is a hidden directory05:21
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bozel???05:21
soundrayDonC_82, you have to tell the file manager to show hidden files, and look for .evolution05:21
bozelwhat is dmesg/05:21
bozel?05:21
inxguys.....i'm da lamer in Linux...how to install programs in that..i mean i know about /.configure make make install...but that doesnt work (from tgz) and how about *.deb?05:21
DonC_82soundray: ok, i'm using nautilus. how can i tell it?05:21
bozelhow can i see an error05:21
Kuyaedzinx: you should try apt-get or Synaptic for ease of install05:22
bozelthe text has 2285 lines05:22
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inxand how to lad packages there?05:22
DonC_82soundray: ah, i get it05:22
inxand...can u expalin me coulpe consloe commands...please05:22
redguy|workbozel: dmesg | less05:22
tobi-wan[away] bozel: go to the end of the file05:22
tobi-wan[away] bozel: rather dmesg | tail , for starters05:23
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Kuyaedzinx: ok. what are you trying to install?05:23
tobi-wan[away] the same for the Xorg.0.log05:23
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valentijnoli4, soundray: I'm trying to find out what pkgsel does...05:23
tristan_anyone manage to access to gnome-llok.org or is it temporary down?05:23
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redguy|workbozel: erm, didn't read what you wrote eralier, look ahet tobi-wan[away]  said05:23
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tristan_gnome-look.org sorry05:23
inxat first OPERA :) I dont like firefox...05:23
bozelthere are some warnings05:23
Kuyaedztristan_: not loading for me..05:23
tristan_ok05:23
Kuyaedztristan_: connection refused05:24
tobi-wan[away] tristan_: offline since some time, for me, too05:24
juliuxhi i have a hp nx6110 with a intel i810 graficcard, if i try to turn on the vga out i only get this error message:  video bus notify   any idea what i can do?05:24
minimecodat: I am not sure if that function has any effect on a linux system. In my case it does not.05:24
inxin da read they sam /.configure make make istall...05:24
redguy|worktristan_: some people earlier today couldn't connect to it which most propably means that it's down05:24
bozelhow can i locate an error?05:24
inxin da readme they sad /.configure make make install05:25
bozelstands there "ERROR", or something like that?05:25
tobi-wan[away] bozel: it says [EE]  or something in the Xorg.0.log05:25
redguy|workbozel: errors begin with EE05:25
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bozelah ok05:25
odatminimec, could be although i'm extremely happy with this solution05:25
minimecodat: So am I. THX again05:25
egytrackis there something to play Quciktime movies ?05:26
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bozelthere are some05:26
siriusnovahi guys05:26
odatminimec, no prob i'm sorta promoting this cool extension since it made my day lolol05:26
juliuxhas nobody an idea?05:26
siriusnovaanyone awake?05:26
egytrackQuicktime in Ubuntu [ How to play Mov files ? ] 05:26
soundrayOn the Torvalds - Gnome statement: I know exactly what he means. I have Gnome running, because it's the Ubuntu default, and Ubuntu has done a great job of the system tools. Whenever I encounter raw Gnome myself, it makes me shudder...05:26
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bozel(EE)Synaptics Touchpad no synatics touchpad detected and no repeater device05:26
inxr u still here?05:26
siriusnovaim thinking of starting up an UbuntuApps.org website, kind of like KDE-Apps.org, it will have reviews and screenshots and a comments section for submitted apps, what do you guys think?05:26
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Kuyaedzinx: one second05:27
minimecodat: So I was lucky to be in the right #channel today :-)05:27
inxKuyaedz, r u still here?05:27
inxok:)05:27
tobi-wan[away] siriusnova: nice idea, but there are no ubuntuapps, as far as i can tell :-)05:27
odatminimec, lol05:27
lee__anyone familiar with installing libwx_gtk2* on breezy ?05:27
soundraysiriusnova, I would read that.05:27
lee__i need it for my WASTE client05:27
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lee__..i cant find it in Synaptix05:28
siriusnovatobi-wan[away]  - true but I was thinking of making it more like a site so that we can filter out and find apps that are interesting, weird etc.. Apps that are kind of hard to pick out using just Synaptic05:28
lee__Synaptic05:28
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bozel(tobi-wan[away]  && redguy|work: (EE)Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.05:28
siriusnovalike we could have a "Cool App of the Day", "Games, Multimedia, Themes" etc..05:28
tobi-wan[away] siriusnova: it sure sounds like a fun idea05:28
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tobi-wan[away] bozel: anything else? this just says your touchpad won't work :-)05:29
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siriusnovaBasically make life easier compared to searching through synaptic heh05:29
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dr_willisi tend to just use freshmeat.net05:29
bozel(tobi-wan[away]  && redguy|work: (EE)PreInnit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad"05:29
dr_willisactually - isent theres some apt database of all the apps and stuff?05:29
dr_willisi seem to recall using such a web site once.05:30
tobi-wan[away] siriusnova: yes, i see that. it would cut away all those libs....05:30
siriusnovadr_willis - but a lot of freshmeat stuff isnt in Ubuntu, and it would be nice to have an Ubuntu specific website so if people have problems etc..05:30
Kyraldr_willis: packages.ubuntu.com05:30
siriusnovahmm05:30
aTypicalHello all.  I'm interested in testing Flight-1.  Does Ubuntu make all the extras, like mp3 support and dvd support, available for the test releases?05:30
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tobi-wan[away] bozel: anything else? concerning this message, you should open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and delete all synaptics entries05:30
L33HambleyAnyone know how/where to install libwx on Breezy5.1005:30
KyralaTypical: you install them the same way you do on Breezy05:30
joachim-nmy gnome menu is frozen -- how do I restart that or the panel?05:30
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KyralL33Hambley: which one05:31
tRSSjoachim-n: press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE05:31
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tRSSjoachim-n: this will restart your gnome05:31
aTypicalKyral,  I'm pretty new so I apologize for stupid questions, but is that under the Universe repo?05:31
L33HambleyKyral - any05:31
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KyralaTypical: MP3 and DVD support is not out of the box, for legal issues05:32
L33Hambleyi'm getting qierd behaviour from Synaptic05:32
L33Hambleyunable to resolve dependancies05:32
L33Hambley...of packages that are listed right there on my search05:32
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tobi-wansorry, bozel, did i miss anything?05:32
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KyralLeeJunFan: I see libwxgtk2.6-005:32
aTypicalKyral, right, I'm okay with that.  Thanks for your help.  I think I'll just give it a shot and see what it does. :-)05:32
L33Hambleylibwxgtk2.4-1:05:32
L33Hambley Depends: libglib1.2 (>=1.2.0) but it is not installable05:32
L33Hambley Depends: libgtk1.2 (>=1.2.10-4) but it is not installable05:32
bozelno05:32
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bozeli m searching05:32
bozelin Xorg.conf05:33
tobi-wanbozel: what's the last error in Xorg.0.log?05:33
egytrackwhen i try to set wallpaper from image in firefox it's hangup ,, is it me or it's dosn't set wallpapers !05:33
tucozhmm, has ubotu been removed?05:33
L33HambleyKyral, thanks05:33
bozel(EE)PreInnit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad"05:33
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bozelshould i reboot now?05:33
tobi-wanbozel: there is a ServerLayout Section, where you just have to comment the line for synaptics05:33
soundraytucoz, try ubotflu05:34
tucozsoundray, thanks05:34
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L33Hambleylee@wr0kstation:~/Desktop$ ./waste05:34
L33Hambley./waste: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.5.so.3: cannot05:34
L33Hambleyand i cant seem o find that in Synaptic either05:34
L33Hambleyto find*05:34
soundraytucoz, it seems to have caught some infection :)05:34
tucozsoundray, that didn't work. It is /msg ubotfly <query> right?05:34
tucozI see, probably something wrong.05:35
jbroometucoz: ubotflu not ubotflu05:35
soundraytucoz, ubotflu05:35
tucozoh05:35
jbroomeerr, not ubotfly05:35
jbroometab-complete is your friend05:35
tucozah, that worked.05:35
twixmrtobi-wan: i've found some warnings. (Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority0) the same is also with .pcf.Z .pcf.gz and some more05:35
tucozjbroome, that is true. Forgot about it.05:36
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tRSSmy wmvs are working. someone recommended mplayer, but that also crashes when I play wmvs. Any idea how to play wmvs through vlc or totem05:36
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soundray!you05:36
ubotfluNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, soundray05:36
bozeltobi-wan: rebooting now05:36
tRSSsorry, i meant my wmvs aren't working!05:36
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tobi-wantwixmr: hmm..... no errors? at least one of the last lines should be [EE]  followed by a message05:37
tobi-wantwixmr: what about dmesg, any errors there?05:37
twixmrtobi-wan: i also can see "Bad V_BIOS checksum"05:37
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ryan__u cant bookmark in xmms like in winamp can you?05:37
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twixmrtobi-wan: i have the problem only if i install the nvidia-driver. where can i find dmesg?05:38
Dido-Anyone could help me out setting up a network between me and Xp to share my internet connection?05:38
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zool2005can I make xmms open by default when I click on an MP3?05:38
bozeltobi-wan: isnt working05:38
bozelits black05:39
tobi-wantwixmr: it's a command05:39
ryan__zool yea05:39
tobi-wanbozel: well.... then, once more, you should check the error logs05:39
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zool2005ryan_: how?05:39
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tobi-wantwixmr: then there should be some bad message about the nvidia drivers in the log-file05:39
bozeli checked them05:39
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tobi-wanbozel: and?05:39
bozelthere isnt any error05:39
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bozelhow can i locate an error in dmsg05:39
bozel?05:39
ryan__do you have the codec05:40
ryan__right05:40
tobi-wandmsg | tail05:40
bozelin xorg.0.log isnt any error05:40
zool2005?05:40
twixmrtobi-wan: you mean dmesg and then the Xorg.0.log instead of nano?05:40
tobi-wanok, probably the lines are a bit complicated :-)05:40
soundraytobi-wan, dm*e*sg05:40
tobi-wantwixmr: no, dmesg | tail05:40
Lispsterhi, i just turned on my ubuntu laptop this morning; it boots into X-windows and i log in as usual, but then it just has a brown screen and doesn't show my desktop... any ideas how to fix this?05:40
tobi-wansoundray: uups, thank you05:40
bozeldmsg: command not found05:40
ryan__zool just right click the mp3 then go to open with xmms05:40
tobi-wantwixmr: but if the error occurs because of the nvidia-driver, chances are that the error is in the Xorg.0.log file05:41
tobi-wanbozel: dmesg, my fault05:41
zool2005ryan_: I can but I'd like to click and play05:41
soundrayLispster, are you chatting from another machine?05:41
eruinie cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE05:41
Lispstersoundray,  yes05:41
bozelerrors with (EE) too?05:41
soundrayLispster, can you still log in on a text console?05:41
ryan__ok05:41
ryan__i got you05:41
tobi-wanbozel: no, these are in xorg.0.log05:41
ryan__go to open with other application and the click xmms05:42
bozeland in dmesg?05:42
Lispstersoundray,  yes, if i use the ctrl-alt-F<n> i can switch to consoles05:42
redguy|workeruin: you could simply grep EE /var/log/Xorg0.log05:42
zool2005can I stop Totem opening by default?05:42
ryan__yea05:42
eruinredguy|work, I like typing ;p05:42
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soundrayLispster, first thing to check is if any of your partitions are full.05:42
ryan__choose other application then find xmms in there and then it should open any mp3 with one click on xmms05:42
soundrayLispster, with df05:43
zool2005I tried but I still wants Totem !05:43
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Lispstersoundray, 13 gb available on /, 237m on /dev/shm whatever that is, and 224m on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile05:43
redguy|workeruin: hah, you want your fingers to be in good , right?05:43
ryan__mmm05:43
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zool2005I could uninstall totem !05:43
bozeltobi-wan: how to find errors in dmesg?05:43
deltron!totem05:44
ubotfludeltron: I give up, what is it?05:44
deltrondoh05:44
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redguy|workeruin: erm, good shape05:44
soundrayLispster, so that's one diagnosis excluded. Next, check your $HOME/.xsession-errors for any hints.05:44
twixmrtobi-wan: i installed ubuntu and everything workes fine. till i had these grafic-problems. someone told me to install the nvidia-driver. but when i do this, i don`t get a signal after the booting. can you help me?05:44
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zool2005does anyone else have choppy playback and alsa errors with mplayer?05:44
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klobberguys does ubuntu have an identd ?05:45
redguy|workklobber: sure it does05:45
siriusnovabtw guys if you want to play apple quicktime trailers and yahoo movie trailers etc..05:45
mustard5twixmr, what method did you use to install nvidia drivers?05:45
Lispstersoundray,  oh i see something that might be wrong05:45
L33HambleyWhy Wont wxWidgets work on Ubuntu ?05:45
klobberredguy|work where ?05:45
siriusnovainstall mozilla player plugin, mplayer and w32codecs05:45
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L33Hambley./waste: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.5.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:45
siriusnovaand remove the libtotem files05:45
siriusnovain the mozilla-firefox plugin directory05:46
tobi-wantwixmr: i do not know the nvidia driver to well, i'd guess it's incompatible with your video-card05:46
citydogsiriusnova: does this work with the new HD trailer format?05:46
Lispstersoundray,  found it!  thanks!05:46
siriusnovacitydog - I dunno, I havent tried. Lemme see if it works05:46
redguy|workklobber: erm, was thinking about inetd..05:46
soundrayLispster, what was it?05:46
tobi-wanbozel: well...... is there anything related to graphics there?05:46
redguy|work!search identd05:46
ubotfluredguy|work: Are you on ritalin?05:46
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twixmrtobi-wan: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:46
redguy|workerm05:46
Lispstersoundray,  i had messed with my hosts file because diablo2 didn't work with 127.0.0.105:46
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Lispstersoundray, i had to put in 192.168.0.102 as my ip, so x was confused about where localhost was or something05:47
Lispstersoundray,  so i just changed it back and its fine now05:47
klobberi acnt change the name in front of the @ sign in bitchx and its driving me crazy !, anyone know how ?05:47
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citydogsiriusnova: try the x-men trailer05:47
twixmrtobi-wan: geforce 6600 gt05:47
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redguy|workklobber: try apt-cache search identd05:48
soundrayLispster, I don't know what diablo2 is, but it sure sounds like it needs fixing...05:48
mustard5twixmr, when you say no signal do you mean no signal at bootup or does it fail with an error during bootup?05:48
siriusnovacitydog - it might work, i cant get it to play though05:48
eruinredguy|work, well, ever since I spilled first coffee then beer on my laptop keyboard, and made it work again by way of shower and hang-to-dry, I've come to treasure being able to type alot ;)05:48
L33Hambleysoundray, a game, very old05:48
siriusnovabut all other trailers work fine citydog05:48
siriusnovaUbuntu needs to update Firefox to 1.5 :/05:49
soundrayThx L33Hambley05:49
redguy|workL33Hambley: very old?05:49
minimecsoundray: /gone fishing05:49
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klobberjeez redguy|work theres loads of 'em05:49
twixmrtobi-wan: at the bootup everthings works fine. when i get to the "login-screen" i don`t get a signal anymore05:49
klobbercan i found out which one bitchx reads ?05:49
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Kyle_SLo05:50
L33Hambleyredguy|work, taling like 7-8 years are we not ?05:50
mustard5tobi-wan, what kernel are you running?05:50
L33Hambley.,..because it looks that old05:50
mustard5twixmr, what kernel are you running?05:50
mustard5tobi-wan, sorry about that :)05:50
citydogtesting citydog05:50
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bozeltobi-wan: graphics?05:51
twixmrtobi-wan: i don`t know. i always install the updates.05:51
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redguy|workL33Hambley: 7-8 years? maybe... if that is so time does fly fast indeed. There is a lot of older games that I would consider 'very old'05:52
Kyle_SIf in install ubuntu on a machine with (for example) a matrox video card & an intel etherpro ethernet card, then yank the drive and put it into a machine with an ATI video card and a realtek ethernet card, will the system automatically update/configure itself to use those new devices instead of the old ones?05:52
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redguy|workKyle_S: though it's not guaranteed, it sould do so05:52
L33Hambleyredguy|work, Total Annihilation is my vice, 9 years old this month, and still as fresh as the day it was released - i never did get the diablo game thing, played them both - not my thing05:52
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Kyle_Sredguy|work: does it use fbdev for X or a real acellerated X driver by default?05:53
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kafeineKyle_S, you'll have issues with ati, but it won't be hard to fix with a little cutting in xorg.conf05:53
redguy|workKyle_S: would't count on that05:53
twixmrmustard5: i don`t know what kernel i am running. i always make updates. at startup i see 2 different kernels05:53
mustard5twixmr, type uname -r in a terminal05:54
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mustard5twixmr, that will tell you your kernel version.05:54
Kyle_Skafeine: What about with older ati cards (radeon 200 and below are natively supported in XFree and XOrg without needing ati's driver)05:54
twixmrmustard5: 2.6.12-10-38605:54
_yoshi_where can i go to look up songs and cds?05:54
trappistif anyone has Eterm, could you open it and run 'pstree' in it and tell me if it looks like trash?05:54
redguy|workKyle_S: on second thought I think that you would have to reconfigure your xorg anyway...05:54
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soundraymustard5: uname is /bin/uname ; bash: type: -r: not found  :)05:55
tobi-wanbozel: you need to identify the error....05:55
tobi-wantrappist: yes, it does :-)05:55
tobi-wantrappist: funny05:55
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_yoshi_132105:55
kafeineKyle_S, newer cards are also supported without needing ati's driver05:55
bipolarSeveas, ping05:55
kafeinebut it won't have any 3d05:55
trappisttobi-wan: just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me05:55
mustard5twixmr, hmm .ok... *thinging05:55
bozelbut i cant identify any error05:55
kafeinethey'll use xorg's05:55
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bozeli can see anything in the logfiles05:55
bozelit is like chinese05:55
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tobi-wanbozel: ok, then back to Xorg.0.log.... *any* error?05:55
kafeine'ati' driver which uses software vesa for 3d05:55
Kyle_Skafeine: Heh.  The last time I bought a new ati card was quite some time ago, and there was no acellerated 2d driver for Xorg/XFree at that time. Didn't realize they all got better.05:55
Kyle_Skafeine: not software vesa, software mesa.05:56
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mustard5twixmr, you could uninstall the drivers if you want or reset your xorg.conf to use vesa drivers05:56
kafeinevesa it is05:56
kafeinei sure remember it well:D05:56
kafeinewhen i couldn't configure my 3d05:56
e_surferhy everybody05:56
mustard5twixmr, at least then you can have a  working computer until you find the problem05:56
e_surfergood afternoom05:56
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e_surferplease can anyone explain how to make boot floopies for the ubuntu SO >?05:57
tRSSalright guys, I have a dell inspiron 8100 (40GB HDD, 256 MB RAM, 32 MB nVidia GeForce2, Pentium III 1.2 GHz), but my ubuntu hangs sometimes for upto 2 secs. Mouse and keyboard become unresponsive and if xmms is running, the song becomes jerky05:57
e_surfermy cdrom doens boot05:57
redguy|worktoo.. much... irc...05:57
Kyle_Skafeine: No.  Mesa.  I've had to build it for dozens of bizzare systems in the past ;) before there was DRI support in X.  Vesa is for high res high bitdepth 2d on almost any card.  But its not acellerated and has NOTHING to do with 3d.05:57
tRSSanyone knows what the problem might be?05:57
twixmrmustard5: the computer works with the standart-driver. but i often have graphic-problems05:57
Kyle_SAnyway.  How well does Ubuntu automagically configure and setup the graphics sound and ethernet cards?05:57
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kafeinewell enough, for the sound and ethernet part05:57
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kafeineunless there's something really bizarre05:58
soundraye_surfer, do you want to try fixing CD booting first or do you want to go straight to the floppy solution?05:58
tRSSKyle_S: my experience has been really good. Ubuntu detected everything on its own. I just had to download the nvidia driver05:58
mustard5twixmr, you used the pastebin before?05:58
bozelno05:58
e_surferto the floopy bro05:58
e_surferthanks05:58
bozelthere isnt any error05:58
e_surfermy cd isnt booting05:58
persiaCould someone recommend where I could file a bug against a source only in dapper?  A control file change is required with a recent update, and I'd like to log it somewhere.05:58
mustard5ubotu: tell twixmr about pastebin05:58
kafeinethe graphics always require user interaction to start working right, tho05:58
twixmrmustard5: now i use the standart-driver. here you can see my problem at the bottom. http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?t=1820405:59
mustard5twixmr, k05:59
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Kyle_StRSS: Hummm OK.05:59
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Kyle_S(dumb q) does it come with an easy to use ppp setup?06:00
Kyle_SAnd 2nd (dumb q) OpenOffice 2.0?06:00
tRSS alright guys, I have a dell inspiron 8100 (40GB HDD, 256 MB RAM, 32 MB nVidia GeForce2, Pentium III 1.2 GHz), but my ubuntu hangs sometimes for upto 2 secs. Mouse and keyboard become unresponsive and if xmms is running, the song becomes jerky. any ideas?06:00
bozeltobi-wan: there arent any errors06:00
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soundraye_surfer, what are you using at the moment?06:00
tRSSKyle_S: it comes with openoffice 2.006:00
mustard5twixmr, well I can't read german so its going to be hard for me to use that as a guide06:01
bozel:( why i cant see the gnome desktop?06:01
kafeineKyle_S, openoffice2, yes. and you can apt-get gnome-ppp for the modem part06:01
twixmrmustard5: just look at the screenshots06:01
mustard5twixmr, can you use the pastebin?  If so paste you xorg.conf in the pastebin and show me the URL06:01
e_surferNO SO at the moment06:01
tRSSbozel: what do you see?06:01
e_surferi am using web on iother masschine06:01
Kyle_SGroovy.06:01
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e_surferother machine06:01
Kyle_SHumm.  Need to apt-get the ppp dialer?06:01
kafeineyup06:02
tobi-wanbozel: sorry, i have to give up, then06:02
kafeinewell06:02
kafeinethe gtk one, at least06:02
kafeineit comes with pppconfig installed:)06:02
mustard5twixmr, k..I'm loading them now..but I'm on dialup so it will be slow06:02
bozelblack monitor06:02
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tRSSbozel: is this a laptop? or a desktop LCD/CRT?06:02
bozellaptop06:03
tRSSbozel: press CTRL+ALT+F106:03
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Dasnipa`wow @ torvolds ripping of gnome developers a new one06:03
bozelyes?06:03
bozelthen?06:04
bozellogin?06:04
tRSSbozel: now login06:04
Kyle_Skafeine: is pppconfig graphical or command line?  Its been about...ohhh 8 years since I've needed to use a ppp connection, so I've no idea what the current state of them are :)06:04
bozeli did06:04
Subhumanisnt it CTRL ALT F7 for a graphical login06:04
tRSSbozel: just a sec, let me check something real quick06:04
Subhumanand and GNOM E06:04
bozelok06:04
mustard5twixmr, are you going to paste your xorg.conf in the pastebin?06:04
Subhumanbozel, you seeig like aterminal screen?06:04
twixmrmustard5: but now i`m not running the nvidia-driver. does this take effect to the xorg.conf? i can`t paste my xorg.conf when i'm running the nvidia-driver.06:04
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bulio|lapI'm using ubuntu 4.1006:04
Subhumanbozel, if u want to go to a GUI, itz CTRL ALT F706:04
bulio|laphow can I install all of its updates?06:05
kafeineKyle_S, it's like the debian installer, the blue background and everything, and it's step based06:05
bulio|lapbut not go to 5.1006:05
kafeinei mean, step by step. duuh06:05
bozelno06:05
bulio|lapanyone?06:05
bozelthere it is all black06:05
Kyle_Skafeine: is it appropriate for a complete newb/non linux user (who won't have access to the internet to get help until they are through with the configuration)06:05
_jasonbulio|lap, I think 5.10 is basically all the updates06:05
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bulio|lapit screwed my 4.10 up last time06:05
twixmrmustard5: you know what i mean?06:05
bulio|lapwith apt-get06:05
mustard5twixmr, heh...good point..sorry06:06
bulio|lapand I burnt 6 5.10 CDs06:06
mustard5twixmr, yep :)06:06
tRSSbozel: type: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:06
bulio|lapall had debootstrap problems06:06
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kafeineKyle_S: i'd reccomend gnome-ppp instead, it has got a nice & a lot simpler gui06:06
_jasonbulio|lap, does the livecd work okay?  you can try upgrading to 5.04 first and then to 5.1006:06
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tRSSbozel: be right back... something urgent has come up... till then somebody else can help you. I should be back in 5 mins06:07
bulio|lapI don't have the live CD06:07
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soundraye_surfer, I don't think there is a way to boot the installer from a floppy.06:07
bozelok thx06:07
bulio|lapI'm installing 4.10 now06:07
kafeineKyle_S: http://www.gnome-ppp.org/screenshots.php06:07
mustard5twixmr, have you looked through your logs for errors?   /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:07
bulio|lapcan I just update hoary?06:07
_jasonbulio|lap, can you burn it?  I think it would just be a way to see if your computer works well with 5.10 or not and if the problem was just with the upgrade process06:07
soundraye_surfer, are you sure you can't convince the machine to boot the CD via the BIOS setup?06:08
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_jasonbulio|lap, I believe so, just follow the wiki isntructions for a hoary upgrade06:08
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_jasonbulio|lap, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes06:08
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twixmrmustard5: yes. but i haven't found anything.06:09
kafeineKyle_S: pppconfig also has a lot of helpful text for every step, but i don't know if it'd be appropriate for complete newbies06:09
mrkrishiya. i installed ubuntu-server on a server and have a question. it by default comes with alsa drivers (so i can listen to mp3s while i server webpages?) along with wireless-tools and stuff. if i remove it, it removes ubuntu-minimal -- how do i JUST remove the wireless-tools + alsa stuff?06:09
zandaahey all, where can I find the postfix installation folder?06:09
e_surferthewre is no option06:09
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soundraymrikris, let it remove ubuntu-minimal, then you can remove any component that it depends on.06:09
e_surfersoundray: I foumnd a file named sbm.bin and I am trying to use dd to boot06:10
Kuyaedzsomeone give me tips on this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/570206:10
e_surferits on doc stuff06:10
e_surferthanks manh06:10
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e_surferman06:10
mrkrissoundray, what is the point of ubuntu-minimal06:10
kafeinemrkris, don' worry about ubuntu-minimal, it's just a meta-package06:10
_jasonmrkris, read the desciption of ubuntu-minimal06:10
zandaahey all, where can I find the postfix installation folder?06:10
e_surferthe BIOS option only has A,C on boot option06:10
e_surfer\:(06:10
kakeihow can i see the temp of my system in ubuntu06:10
_jasonmrkris, and read the descRiption too :)06:10
mrkris_jason, i did, but it says it is needed to upgrade some packages if i remember correctly06:10
kafeineit's there so you can apt-get just one package instead of thousands06:10
e_surfersoundray: -->06:10
e_surferWhat is SBM ?06:10
e_surfer  Smart Boot Manager or briefly SmartBtmgr (SBM),06:10
e_surferthanks man06:10
rosenOk ... so now I've installed mostly everything I need and wants to see if I can get planeshift up and running ... but first I guess I need to install some nvidia drivers ... but using synaptic there is like 30 different to choose from >.<06:11
zandaakakei, only thing I now of is monitoring using hardware (like a fan controller or whateva)06:11
mrkrisahh ok thanks :)06:11
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twixmrmustard5: when i install the driver and then look the Xorg.0.log. how can i save this file, that i can open it again when i have disabled this damn-nvidia-driver?06:11
kakeizandaa yes i want something like that06:11
zandaakakei, I ment using something like a temp probe and a LCD06:11
twixmrmustard5: i tried it with nano06:11
soundraye_surfer, so you're managing now?06:11
KuyaedzI seem to have a broken package that I'm not sure how to fix..06:11
e_surferya , I got it06:12
e_surferThamnks bro :)06:12
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zandaagotta go, cya'll <_<06:12
mustard5twixmr, you could use a cp command and send a copy to your desktop06:12
kakeizandaa . oh.06:12
soundraye_surfer, well I wasn't much of a help. Good luck with your install!06:12
mustard5twixmr, something like sudo cp Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop/errorlog06:13
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twixmrmustard5: ok. i'll try06:13
sinizzlwhy does a user need to boot with a livd cd to set a root password in ubuntu? this is freakin' weird.06:13
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mustard5twixmr, or just this actually sudo cp Xorg.0.log ~/Desktop/06:14
theineWhen will superkaramba make it into Dapper main, now that it is officially included in kde 3.5?06:14
tommi^Hi. Has  anybody really managed to get the Oracle 10g working? What's the easiest way? I have the same problem that some people at the forum "TNS: Lost Contact during the install." and there's no answer for it. Also I think that the wiki entry https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oracle10g lacks something.06:14
soundraysinizzl, what makes you think that?06:14
sinizzlsoundray, a friend of mine who is a total computer illiterate has ubuntu now06:14
soundraysinizzl, booting from CD helps you *re*set a root pass if you've forgotten it.06:14
sinizzlthe first i thing i needed to do was tu remove him from the sudoers list so he can't screw anything up06:14
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mustard5twixmr, or even this     cat Xorg.0.log>~/Desktop/errorlog06:15
sinizzlsoundray, i know that. but why doesn't ubuntu ask for a new root passwort by default ?06:15
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soundraysinizzl, for security.06:15
twixmrmustard5: but i have to enable the nvidia-driver first, don`t i?06:15
sinizzlit would be more secure in my opinion if the standard user wasn't in the sudoers list06:15
soundraysinizzl, remote attacks are harder that way.06:15
sinizzland would log in as root by su - isntead06:15
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sinizzlsoundray, yes, that's true06:16
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u|qoshey guys ...06:16
mustard5twixmr, well yes..but I'm not sure how much longer I can stay online :)06:16
u|qoshow can i generally manage the bandwidth in ubuntu?06:16
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mustard5twixmr, so it might be something that is not worth doing right at this moment :)06:16
soundraysinizzl, it makes sense to me that the first user should be an admin by default.06:16
twixmrmustard5: ok. thx.06:16
soundraysinizzl, low-priority users like your friend should then be created from that first account.06:16
sinizzlsoundray, not if the first and only user is a complete retard as long as computers are concerned06:17
mustard5twixmr, I wonder if it still contains the messages from previous errors in some of the other logs06:17
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TubakHi everbody06:17
soundraysinizzl, if you are setting the computer up for him, then you should make yourself the first user.06:17
sinizzlsoundray, that's what im about to do right now06:18
soundraysinizzl, never set up a "retard" as the "first and only user"06:18
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sinizzlyes, that's quite a good idea06:18
twixmrmustard5: ill try it sometime. see you06:18
mustard5twixmr, I've been googling some answers and I see quite a few issues with your card06:18
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mustard5twixmr, it might be a driver version problem06:19
bulio|laplast night, when I used apt-get to download breezy, and upgrade to 5.10 from 4.10, I rebooted and got this:06:19
mustard5twixmr, you can download more upto date drivers from the nvidia site06:19
twixmrmustard5: oh. thats interesting.06:19
bulio|lap/etc/X11/X is not executable06:19
bulio|lapand X server wouldn't run06:19
mustard5twixmr, I've been reading that it might be a problem with the 7667 drivers06:19
Kuyaedzbulio|lap: does apt-get update/upgrade have anything additional after a reboot?06:20
bulio|lapno06:20
mustard5twixmr, so maybe you should visit the nvidia site...there are some HOW TOs on the forum..let me find the link06:20
Kuyaedzbulio|lap: ..and are you using apt-get dist-upgrade?06:20
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bulio|lapyes06:20
tRSSbozel: sorry for keeping you waiting. now scroll down, and look for Section "Device" or Section "Monitor" or Section "Screen" and tell me what it says.06:20
icuIf I download the amd64 dvd image will I also be able to install ubuntu using that onto i386 machines?06:21
Kuyaedzbulio|lap: ...haven't heard that issue before unfortunately.  Uhm, so you did a dist-upgrade and now X just wont start?06:21
Kuyaedzicu: I would guess no06:21
bulio|lapYep, it won't06:21
bulio|lapI'm re-installing 4.10 now06:22
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icuKuyaedz: is there anyway then to upgrade an i386 install to an amd64 install?06:22
Kuyaedza fresh install with 5.10 .iso is the best way I've found06:22
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Kuyaedzicu: I would assume that you need the .iso for i386 & 64.  The architectures are too different to be interchangeable06:22
twixmrmustard5: thanks a lot! i just found something about this problem in a german-forum06:23
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mrkrishow come ubuntu won't let me remove nvidia-kernel-common without removing my kernel modules/image ?06:23
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bozeltRSS: ok wait a second06:23
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JairunCalothhow do I uninstall a kernel?06:23
spiekeyhello!06:23
twixmrmustard5: i`ll try to fix it. thx.06:23
mustard5twixmr, ah ok...well you are on your way to a solution then :)06:23
icuKuyaedz: thanks, though it's sort of a pain to have to download both.06:23
bulio|lapI have 5 CDs06:23
bulio|lapall 5.1006:23
bulio|lapnone work06:23
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bulio|lapdebootstrap error06:23
spiekeydoes anyone know what boot options i need to install ubuntu server with a adaptec 2400 raid5 ?06:23
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Kuyaedzicu: it is.. shouldn't take too long using .torrents though :)06:24
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spiekeyif i just do the normal "server" or "linux" install i get a kernel panic06:24
mustard5twixmr, you are going to need to totally remove the nvidia drivers you installed via synaptic though06:24
tRSSbozel: ready when you are.06:24
bozeltRSS: which section "Device"?06:24
asoltenHi all...Anybody know about a good ssh filetransfer program ? I know scp but it is quite tiresome...06:24
linkdasolten: whats tiresome about it?06:24
bulio|lapany other suggestions?06:24
bozelIdentifier "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"06:24
bozelDriver "i810"06:24
Kuyaedzspiekey: I had a kernel panik on installing 'server'.  Have you tried memtest86, also included on the install CD?06:25
bozelBusID "PCI:0:2:0"06:25
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tRSSbozel: thats what we are looking for06:25
Kuyaedzasolten: gFTP can transfer via FTP, HTTP, and SSH.  Could try that06:25
spiekeyKuyaedz: no, not yet06:25
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tRSSbozel: is it showing the correct device and driver06:25
bozelBIdentifier "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"\nDriver "i810"usID "\nPCI:0:2:0"06:25
mustard5twixmr, some instructions for removing the nvidia-glx drivers are included in this HOW TO http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+drivers06:25
asoltenlinkd, you have to know the exact name and location06:25
Kuyaedzspiekey: I'd suggest trying that.. could be a memory issue.  Thats what mine turned out to be06:25
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spiekeyKuyaedz: that server has been running for week without problems, i hope is not a memory issuse06:26
bozeldont know06:26
twixmrmustard5: thanks man! thats nice!06:26
bozelhow can i check that?06:26
monadhi.--- i just popped in an install cd into a quite old machine and got a kernel panic right away... wtf?06:26
mustard5twixmr, ok..I'm off to bed...good luck :)06:26
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Kuyaedzspiekey: my machine had been running for a year under '98 with no noticeable problems.  I guess that shows how thourough MS is06:26
tRSSbozel: you will have to check the hardware documentation in order to find out the correct hardware06:27
Kuyaedzspiekey: won't hurt to run memtest86.. if you don't find anything at least we know its not that & we can go forward.06:27
spiekeyKuyaedz: it properly never used so much memory (if your weird part was in a high sector :P)06:27
bulio|laphow do I upgrade 4.10 to it's latest versions?06:27
bulio|lap<bulio|lap> like program updates, gnome update etc.06:27
bulio|lap<bulio|lap> I don't want to move to breezy, it has lots of problems for me06:27
bozelthe name is correct06:27
bozelbut how can i check the driver?06:27
tRSSbozel: let me check the repos if the driver is available for intel06:28
spiekeyKuyaedz: ok. i will do a memtest over night, thx06:28
monadcan it be it has something to do with SCSI?06:28
tRSSbozel: i do believe it is available,but let me double check06:28
Kuyaedzspiekey: let me know tomorrow what you find.. we can go from there06:28
asoltenKuyaedz, its seems to be just it... Thanks.06:28
Kuyaedzasolten: no problem. enjoy :)06:28
spiekeyKuyaedz: well, it will be next week. but i will pop in, thanks ;)06:29
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spiekeycu06:30
bozel???06:30
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[yoshi] ok so how do i get yahoo messinger on my ubuntu06:31
Jaymacwhy do you want to?06:31
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[yoshi] messenger*06:31
Jaymacgaim...06:31
Kuyaedzyoshi: try GAIM06:31
L33HambleyGAIM06:31
Kuyaedzlol06:31
Jaymacsudo apt-get install gaim06:31
[yoshi] what?06:31
Jaymacgaim is a multi protocol messenger06:31
[yoshi] whats that?06:32
[yoshi] oh ok06:32
Jaymacworks with aim, icq, msn, yahoo, irc06:32
Kuyaedzif you dont see it in Applications > Internet > GAIM use apt-get install GAIM06:32
Jaymacetc06:32
[yoshi] thanks dude06:32
Jaymacright i'm off06:32
[yoshi] peace06:32
Kuyaedzworks with everything06:32
tRSSbozel: i am right here... just checking something real quick06:32
e1tiger4lidt"foxtricks" plugin for firefox can work with ubuntu06:32
linkdi dont think the Gaim crew like you calling it GAIM. thats how flamestuff starts06:32
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Kuyaedznoted06:33
sethkoh, boy, let's have a flame war about GAIM vs gaim06:33
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sethkthat would be soooo exciting06:34
tRSSbozel: ok, it seems that your card is not supported (I can be wrong and I would love to be proved otherwise), but there is a workaround06:34
linkdno06:34
linkdlets not06:34
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[yoshi] ok im back06:34
bozelok?06:34
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bozelwhat to do?06:34
tRSSbozel: you can use another driver (with limited capabilities) and it should do the job for you. do you wanna do that?06:34
L33Hambleyanyoen use a graphica tablet ?06:35
[yoshi] how do i switch from aim to yahoo buddylist with gaim?06:35
bozelyes06:35
L33Hambleyi'm struggling with my Trust 400 v206:35
bozelnp06:35
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L33Hambleymy screen runs at 1280x800 - and my tablet just gives me a 10" square i can use in the middle!06:35
[yoshi] how do i switch from aim to yahoo buddylist with gaim?06:35
sethk[yoshi] , when you connect to yahoo chat, the buddy list window comes up06:35
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spdl[yoshi] , go into the accounts area06:35
tRSSbozel: get out of vi (press ESC, type :q, hit enter) and then type this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org06:35
spdluncheck aol and check yahoo06:36
sethk[yoshi] , gaim is somewhat smart about which service you are connected to06:36
Kuyaedzyoshi: dropdown should allow for any protocol.  All buddy lists are connected in your end Buddy List06:36
[yoshi] yea im on both06:36
spdlI love gaim06:36
[yoshi] i was on aim first so aim is showing06:36
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[yoshi] i cant be on both and switch b/l06:36
[yoshi] ?06:36
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Kuyaedzit connects to any/all at the same time.  I'm currently on aim, msn, yahoo & irc.  all listed on one buddy list06:37
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bozeldoesnt work06:37
[yoshi] so i guess i dont have a buddylist?06:37
tRSSbozel: what do you get?06:37
bozelxserver-org isnt installed06:38
Kuyaedzyoshi: you have to edit your account in the Accounts section & it'll import your current lists06:38
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tRSSbozel: ahh, alright.. just sit tight for a sec06:38
[yoshi] cool thanks06:38
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sethk[yoshi] , you do, you just don't see it at the moment.  it's there06:38
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spdlIs wnck_applet a part of Wine?06:38
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Ngno06:39
Ngit's one of the gnome panel applets06:39
spdlThanks Ng06:39
_sebastianMaybe someone can help me here?  step by step.  go alon with me.  I am trying to get Apache and PHP5 to work on Ubuntu.  I have Apache installed and PHP5, but when I try to load the  PHPP file i it won't.  browser will just ask me where to save it.06:39
spdlcool :)06:39
tRSSbozel: type this: sudo apt-get install xserver-org-driver-i81006:39
L33Hambley_sebastian, look in your apache conf06:39
L33Hambleyit's not bound proeprly..06:39
L33Hambleyor reboot06:39
L33Hambleythat did it for me06:39
_sebastianI have and it's empty06:39
L33Hambleyyeah06:40
L33Hambleybeccauuse it doesnt use httpd.conf06:40
L33Hambleyit uses apache2.conf06:40
L33Hambleysomewhere06:40
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L33Hambleyi'd tell you, cept i'm on a fresh install and i don't recall06:40
_sebastianI had 1.3 first.  tryed with that, but that woudn't work.  and I been trying with apache2.conf.  Apache206:40
siriusnovaUbuntu is better then sex06:40
sethk_sebastian, make sure you've configured apache to tell it that php files are executable06:40
_sebastianand it won't work just like 1.306:40
L33Hambleyit's in the apache dir somewhere06:40
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rosenis there any (working) scripts for installing Planeshift ? It looks a little too complicated on the webpage, and the scripts there is for other distros than Ubuntu06:40
_sebastianI need to some how tell.  Apache to use the PHP module so it will work, but I don't know how to do that06:40
L33Hambley_sebastian, it doesnt use httpd.conf - there is a seperate file for it06:40
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L33Hambleyit's called like apache2.conf or something06:41
siriusnovaokay btw when I installed opera I dont see it pop up on the applications menu, is there any way I can add it manually?06:41
L33Hambleyand it is just httpd.conf with a different name06:41
bozelcant find xserver-org-driver-i81006:41
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_sebastianapache2.conf was empty06:41
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Ng_sebastian: apache2 modules are controlled via /etc/apache2/mods-available and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/06:41
L33Hambley_sebastian, it's there somewhere06:41
L33Hambleylike NG says06:41
Ng_sebastian: basically you should check if mods-enabled has any php entries, if not symlink the .conf and .load files from mods-available06:41
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sethk_sebastian, there are two things you have to do.  You have to tell apache that a .php file is executable (there is a list of executable suffixes in the config file) and make sure the directory where the .php files live is in the list of directories that may contain executable files06:41
L33Hambleyand theres a sites-avalible ad sites-enabled for other conf06:41
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Kuyaedzsiriusnova: did you apt-get opera or manually add it?06:41
Ngit's a bit weird and very modular, but if you have loads of modules it makes a lot of sense06:41
sethk_sebastian, in addition to the php config other people are saying which is also important (obviously)06:42
siriusnovaKuyaedz - apt-get06:42
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bozelcant find xserver-org-driver-i81006:42
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lfopanyone tried SUSE? If so, you like it?06:42
tRSSbozel: not our day, perhaps ;(. alright, type: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list06:42
Kuyaedzsiriusnova: you can try killall gnome-panel to refresh your panel06:42
L33Hambleylfop, yes - annndd no06:42
lfopL33Hambley, ok. why?06:42
siriusnovaKuyadez - i did that prior to a reboot so my gnome-panel is up to date06:42
bozelthen?06:43
_sebastianthanks I'll try that stuff.  I am getting help from a friend who helped me set up Apahce before on XP ages ago before I formatated.  and knows a lot about this stuff06:43
L33Hambleylfop, just didnt like the feel of it, i prefer something less marketed06:43
Kuyaedzsiriusnova: hmm.. apt-get'd opera and not in panel.  I JUST did the same thing & it showed up immediately.06:43
lfopokay.06:43
_sebastian,but he dosan't use Ubuntu so he didn't know my system.  Slackware and Apple Mac for him06:43
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L33Hambley_sebastian, apache2 has COMPLETELY different configs on XP and linux06:43
bozelmaybe i should uncomment the lines?06:43
siriusnovaKuyaedz - weird, maybe its a bug?06:43
L33Hambleysame directives and things06:43
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L33Hambleyin different files & directories though06:43
_sebastianyes I know it's differnet06:43
spdlCrossOver Office is awesome.06:43
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Kuyaedzsiriusnova: Uhm, are you able to run it from the terminal?  I wonder if it completely installed..06:44
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tRSSbozel: in sources.list you define your repositories. You don't have the universe and multiverse setting. You need to enable them. Just make sure you have these entries: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe06:44
siriusnovaKuyaedz - oh its installed all right, its just not in my Applications Menu06:44
tRSSbozel: you might already have it but it is probably commented out. Just uncomment the line by removing the # symbol06:44
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_sebastianthanks for the help guys.  I think I got enough info now for my friend to help me with the rest :) ,but if not i'll be back here asking06:45
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tuskerninihi there all...06:45
spdlMicrosoft TrueType Font Arial EULA? hahah06:45
filleokusCant get Oscommernce working, any other systems you know about? (open source e shopping)06:45
tuskerninii still neet someone who knows something about apache2...06:45
tuskerninineed...06:45
tRSSbozel: after you have added/edited the line, press ESC, type :wq, hit enter. this will save the file06:45
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bozelthen?06:46
webwolf_27tuskernini, what exactly do you need06:46
spdlHow was fishing minimec?06:46
tRSSbozel: then try this again: sudo apt-get install xserver-org-driver-i81006:46
bozelbut i ve hoary06:46
Sonderbladewhat package should you install if you want kde alongside gnome?06:46
minimecquiet interesting :-)06:46
tRSSbozel: ooh, i thought you had breezy! alright, let me rethink06:46
tuskerniniwebwolf, i need to know how to see my server from another pc... i can see my files if i type localhost in the address bar.. but not if i use my ip....06:47
Kuyaedzsounds like someone read Linus' topic this morning..06:47
bulio|laphow can I upgrade hoary, without going to breezy?06:47
HymnToLife!kde06:47
ubotflukde is, like, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/06:47
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bulio|lapanyone?06:47
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bozeltRSS: in recovery mode i can call: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org06:47
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Ngbulio|lap: upgrade to what?06:47
webwolf_27tuskernini, is apache open to the outside world06:47
bulio|lapthe newest apps and security updates of hoary06:47
Ngbulio|lap: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal will bring a hoary box up to date06:47
Kuyaedzbulio|lap: without upgrading to Breezy I would think just apt-get upgrade/update is as much as you'll get..06:48
bulio|lapk06:48
tuskerninithat is the question... it was until i removed my printer form the router i have...06:48
bulio|lapbecause I am getting a problem when I go to breezy06:48
Kuyaedzbulio|lap: but that isn't going to give you the latest Breezy updates, etc.. limited to Hoary updates.06:48
tuskerninii might have done something really dumb though..06:48
bulio|lapI know06:48
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sethkcan't we get the ', like,' out of ubotflu?  someone might think we were serious06:48
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bulio|lapwhen I apt-getted for breezy, /etc/X11/X became non executable06:49
bulio|lapXserver wouldn't work06:49
bulio|lapso I'll wait till its more stable06:49
bozeltRSS: in recovery mode i can call: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org06:49
Ngsethk: I couldn't agree more, the bot makes itself sound like a dumb californian far too often ;)06:49
Ngit should answer in one clear, polite manner06:49
tRSSbozel: you should be able to call dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org06:49
sub_popso does 5.10's installation not work with USB keyboards?06:49
bozelyes06:49
bozelbut only in recovery mode06:49
sethkNg, yeah, like, you know, it should06:49
tRSSbozel: can you tell me the exact error msg when you do dpkg-reconfigure06:49
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Ngsethk: totally! ;)06:49
sub_popi'm sitting here at the syslinux boot prompt and its a no go06:49
L33HambleyGraphics tablet support anyone ?06:50
bozelbut it is in german06:50
Ngsub_pop: can you get into the bios with your usb keyboard?06:50
sub_popNg: yes06:50
sub_popo_O06:50
filleokusCant get Oscommernce working, any other systems you know about? (open source e shopping)06:50
sub_popand my existing Grub doesn't take keyboard input either06:50
Ngsub_pop: weird, at that point (syslinux) it shoul dbe using the keyboard the bios uses06:51
sub_popyea06:51
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tRSSbozel: i have to jet, but I think this website should be able to help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79804.html06:51
bozelPaket "xserver-config" ist nicht installiert und keine Info ist vorhanden.06:51
ZugwrackI need to force dpkg to remove a package...is the syntax dpkg --force --remove <package name>?06:51
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tRSSbozel: sorry man. I don't know german! :(06:51
Zugwrack!de06:51
sub_pop--force-all i think06:51
ubotflude is, like, totally, Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de06:51
tuskerniniwebwolf, where do i make apache visible to the outside world?06:51
phil_it says i don't have permissions to access my hard drive06:52
bozelok06:52
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Zugwracksub_pop:K thanks...I still need the --remove  as well no?06:52
webwolf_27tuskernini, allow port 80 in both iptables and your router06:52
sub_popZugwrack: yea06:52
Kuyaedztuskernini: apache should load when the IP is called.  To the outside world you most likely need to forward it to your machine via your router06:52
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ZugwrackOk then06:52
bozelwhich driver i should choose?06:52
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tRSSAlright gentelman (and ladies, if there are any). It was nice meeting you all and I should be back soon! :)06:52
webwolf_27bozel, I speak german what do you need06:52
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tRSSbozel: vesa driver should work for you06:53
bozelok06:53
rosenis there a 'taskmanager' in Ubuntu so I can see what processes are running ?06:53
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tuskerniniwebwolf, there are two iptalbes? sorry... refresh me.. i am a read an do idiot06:53
Kuyaedzrosen: Applications > System Tools > System monitor06:53
sub_popfunk. :( i thought i had it figured out06:53
bozelwebwolf_27: my desktop is black, wehn i boot ubuntu06:53
rosenKuyaedz, thanks06:53
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bulio|lapbrb, changing to ubuntu06:53
PupenoLHello.06:54
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Kuyaedzrosen: that can also be added to your gnome-panel with a right-click.  Thats where I've shortcutted mine06:54
webwolf_27bozel, black as in a terminal or black as in absolutly nothing06:54
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bozelin absolutly nothing06:54
PupenoLI have created a kernel module package with module-assistant (zaptel-module), my problem is that it ends on /lib/modules/2.6.12 instead of /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/, any ideas ?06:55
superbeefHey guys, I've got a widescreen laptop, and I've noticed that Ubuntu's gnome screen resolution utility is ignoring the X.org config file where I have more accurate settings... How do I get it to override06:55
webwolf_27bozel, if you press ctrl, alt F1 you should get a terminal06:55
sinclairto dl the vlc precompiled binaries, for which os should i dl the binaries.. Debian GNU/Linux? or familiar linux06:56
bozelyes06:56
webwolf_27bozel, check your x configuration file06:56
bozelwhat should i check in there?06:56
bozelaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa06:57
bozelits working06:57
bozeltRSS: thx06:57
bozeltRSS: thx06:57
bozeltRSS: thx06:57
bozeltRSS: thx06:57
bozeltRSS: thx06:57
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Dido-does anyone know that /etc/rc.d/rc.local which is there on slackwhere, what's the name and where it is on ubuntu?06:57
bozelthe problem was the driver06:57
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rosenKuyaedz, I just needed to check if I really did start up a program and it was just slow to respond ... I didnt though ;)06:57
bozelwith the vesa-driver it works06:57
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webwolf_27bozel, ok06:58
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bozelthx webwolf06:58
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_Audrius_hello, i have a problem... when ubuntu loads eth1 is always inactive... I have manually activate it in case i want to connect over pppoe to internet... what can possibly be wrong?06:58
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sinclairwhen i want to dl a program, and there isnt precombined binaries for ubuntu, should i choose debian or familiar linux?06:59
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Kuyaedzsinclair: if you can find a .deb package use that & install with dpkg -i <packagename>.deb06:59
Ngsinclair: not familiar06:59
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Ngfamiliar is for PDAs ;)06:59
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sinclairoh, okay.. so ill choose debian GNU/linux.. is it ok?07:00
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Kuyaedzyes07:00
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buliohow do I upgr5ade to the latest version of 4.10 warty?07:01
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Kuyaedzbulio: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:02
buliosources.list07:02
buliowhat should be in there?07:02
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bulioI just uncomment the lines07:02
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Kuyaedzbulio: uncomment the deb / deb-src lines07:02
bulioI'm getting the warty upgrades now07:02
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andybrucenetwhere do i ask newbie questions?07:03
rambo3you can do it with synap too07:03
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iHeartKemare there any pre-setup lightweight WM's for ubuntu incase i wanna put it on my lappy with 32mb ram / 200MHz07:03
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_jasonandybrucenet, right here :)07:03
andybrucenetthx! where's root???07:03
iHeartKemxfce is light compared to kde/gnome07:03
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andybrucenetjust installed ubuntu 507:03
_jasonubotflu, tell andybrucenet about root07:03
_Audrius_when ubuntu starts up eth1 device is always inactive... I have manually activate it in case i want to connect over pppoe to internet... what can possibly be wrong?07:03
lfopiHeartKem, icewm07:03
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lfopfast WM.07:03
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iHeartKemi can get icewm for ubuntu ? will it be setup like gnome/kde are07:04
iHeartKemmenu-wise07:04
iHeartKemi want like icewm or fluxbox07:04
lfopyep. pretty much. maybe some config has to be done07:04
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rambo3fluxbox is faster07:04
iHeartKemcool ill try it out07:04
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lfopsudo apt-get install icewm07:04
lfopi think.07:04
iHeartKemwoot, ill check it out in a bit07:04
andybrucenetthx _jason07:04
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buliois warty still supported?07:05
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_jasonandybrucenet, yep, #1 question07:05
Kuyaedzbulio: should be07:05
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sub_popNg: i found it. my BIOSs version of the "Legacy USB support" (talked about here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362638&highlight=grub+usb+keyboard+bios ) was enabled. when i disabled it, all worked fine07:05
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crypticreignIs there a PHP plugin for Eclipse in the apt. repos?07:05
ejofeeshfsmount: shfs filesystem not supported by the kernel07:05
ejofeeanybody can help me?07:05
initcan anyone help me mount my usb hard drive?07:05
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Kuyaedzejofee: what do you need?07:05
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ejofeedooglus: still there?07:06
ejofeeKuyaedz: i don't know what i should do now...07:06
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ejofeeKuyaedz: i don't know how i can insmod... that07:06
Ngsub_pop: excellent :)07:06
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Ngsub_pop: I have a great bug in my bios where if I tell it to support a usb keyboard it disables my hard disk ;)07:06
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sub_poprofl!07:06
iHeartKemWow... copying files over wifi at 5Mbps, never seen it go that fast (1.4gb in 10mins)07:06
sub_popthat sounds like fun07:06
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ejofeeKuyaedz: i tried installation of fuse, sshfs, and stuff... no use... there seems to be something left to do kernel-level07:07
Ngsub_pop: it's really not ;)07:07
Kuyaedzejofee: sorry, got me on that..07:07
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bulioquestion07:08
iHeartKemLinux is getting too easy to use now :-( (with ubuntu) but that's good for noobies, maybe ubuntu will be the OS to take over the desktop world instead of windows but theres still some ways to go07:08
bulioI am upgrading warty right now, with all its latest updates07:08
tuskerniniKuyaedz, my router is allows port 80 on my ip... well thats how it was when it worked before... how do i see what my iptables look like and what is allowed?07:08
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buliothis means I will have newest firefox etc.07:08
bulioor no?07:08
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Kuyaedzbulio: if you update/upgraded then you should have the latest stable version available in ubuntu repositories07:08
bulioI upgraded warty07:09
bulionot to breezy07:09
iHeartKemQuick Poll: Opera of Firefox ftw ?07:09
iHeartKemor**07:09
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Kuyaedzbulio: right.  you should have the latest version (stable, public)07:09
rem_iptables -L i think ..tusk07:09
_jasoniHeartKem, just try both and use what you prefer07:09
bulioexcellent07:09
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iHeartKemI know, just seeing others07:09
iHeartKemopinions07:09
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indrohi07:10
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iHeartKemwondering why firefox is so damn popular when opera seems so superiour ;)07:10
indrohow i can change the default charset of ubuntu?07:10
tuskerninirem_ thanx but it does not show me something that makes sense...07:10
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_jasoniHeartKem, extensions ?07:10
iHeartKemnothing special07:10
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iHeartKemits still slow07:10
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_jasoniHeartKem, sure they are and firefox was free first so it gained a fan-base early on07:11
ejofeeiHeartKem: i prefer opera because of its ability to automatically save session. this way i don't care how many times it crashes. ;)07:11
nuewohi i need only one help when i find icq fo ubuntu07:11
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iHeartKemtuskernini there are some gui frontends for iptables you can find07:11
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iHeartKemejofee true ;)07:11
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Kuyaedznuewo: you're trying to chat via ICQ in ubuntu? is that your question?07:11
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UbuntuUser7362hi, just upgraded to breezy badger, now im getting to the desktop screen but absolutely no menus but mouse seems to be functioning, what could be wrong?07:12
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indroanyone can help?07:12
tuskerniniiHeart... thanx...07:12
nuewoyes07:12
munzirhi sirs, when I enable all the repositories in the synaptic, would the installer try find the package in the CD first and then shift to the net if not available?07:12
Kuyaedznuewo: use gaim Applications > Internet > Gaim (it supports icq, aim, msn, yahoo, irc, etc, etc.)07:12
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_Audrius_when ubuntu starts up eth1 device is always inactive... I have manually activate it in case i want to connect over pppoe to internet... what can possibly be wrong?07:12
Kuyaedzmunzir: I believe it checks the CD first if that line is not #'d in the sources.list07:12
andybrucenetthis is pretty cool--just spent two days going thru gentoo install, portage is soooo slooow07:13
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iHeartKemhttp://vuurmuur.sourceforge.net/ tuskernini looks cool07:13
indroits possible to change the default charset of ubuntu to ISO-8859-15?07:13
L33Hambleyandybrucenet, what stage, 1, 2 or 3 ?07:13
rosenhmm during my installation of Planeshift (running the script from the HP) I get an error saying that I dont have .cvspass in my home/rosendahl/ folder (wich I dont) but how/what/why am I supposed to do ?07:13
andybrucenetonly 3 supported now07:13
munzirandybrucenet, anyway I can tell whether the package is on the CD or not in advance?07:13
L33Hambley:(07:13
indronuewo: ?07:13
rosenI've installed all the dependencies (including CVS) but ... gah I'm lost here07:13
indroanyone know that?07:13
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munzirKuyaedz,  anyway I can tell whether the package is on the CD or not in advance?07:14
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nuewoi try to connect thank for help :o)07:14
munzirandybrucenet, sorry I used the wrong nick ;)07:14
andybrucenetcompletely failed at installing gentoo on next box, ubuntu did everything in 25 minutes07:14
rosenanyone ? ... please ? :P07:14
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Kuyaedzandybrucenet: pretty smooth eh07:14
andybrucenetit is, now for apache2 and cvs...07:14
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Kuyaedzmunzir: ....not sure, never tried.  is there something you're looking for specifically?07:15
indrohello?07:15
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Jaymacandybrucenet.. gentoo is awesome07:15
Jaymacbut needs tweaking07:15
Jaymac:)07:15
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Kuyaedzindro: I'm not sure of an option for that.  Have you checked out System > Pref > keyboards?  might be something in there someplace?07:15
andybrucenetjaymac, i built it on ancient 450mhz box and it rocks, no argument there07:16
buliodo I upgrade just the apps, or the whole linux kernel when I did apt-get upgrade07:16
indroKuyaedz: im using kde07:16
andybrucenetbut so slow to set up and so many things to mistype07:16
Jaymachehe07:16
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JaymacFirst time I installed it, it took me 4 restarts i think07:16
Kuyaedzbulio: you updated apps, and backend libs most likely.. not sure which packages installed, but you should have the latest & greatest available now07:16
Jaymaci messed it up quite a few times07:16
UbuntuUser7362anyone know what's the application name that starts the Gnome panel or the Gnome menu?07:16
L33HambleyGraphics tablet Support Anyone 5.10 ?07:16
qt2my uname -r shows 2.6.15-7-686 even though installed from 2.6.12 sources + ubuntu patches... any idea what the hell is up with it?07:16
andybrucenetyou beat me :)07:16
Kuyaedzindro: sorry, don't use KDE.  not sure where to find it there07:16
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_jasonUbuntuUser7362, gnome-panel for the panel07:17
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munzirKuyaedz, no I am new and can't yet understand all this universe, multiverse, restricted stuff! Now when I see: Base System, Base System (universe), Base System (restricted) what does this mean?07:17
andybrucenetwhere can i find info on setting up common tools (cvs, apache2, etc.)07:17
andybrucenetno "emerge" i guess07:17
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_jasonandybrucenet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/07:17
UbuntuUser7362ty _jason07:17
andybrucenetthx!07:17
Kuyaedzmunzir: those are the repositories (or databases) where you have programs available to you07:17
indroKuyaedz: is /charset the same as keyboard charset?07:17
_jasonandybrucenet, you can check out the forums too: http://ubuntuforums.org/, but I'd check the wiki first07:18
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Kuyaedzindro: sorry, don't know.07:18
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buliohow do I update to newest warty kernel?07:19
munzirKuyaedz, ok but what's the difference and why I have three base systems?07:19
Kuyaedzbulio: if you've update/upgrade you HAVE the latest warty kernel07:19
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bulioso if I've run apt-get upgrade07:19
UbuntuUser7362brb07:19
bulioI'm good?07:19
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Kuyaedzbulio: you're good07:20
hackersito69hola07:20
bulioexscellent07:20
bulioI'm not going to install breezy07:20
buliohad too much trouble with it07:20
bulioI'll wait for next big release07:20
Kuyaedzmunzir: they each hold different files.. just organization07:20
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Kuyaedzmunzir: there is one for security updates, one for base files, etc..07:21
u|qoshow to manage the bandwidth generally in ubuntu?07:21
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Kuyaedzu|quos: what do you mean, manage bandwidth?07:21
hackersito69speachk spanish07:21
munzirKuyaedz, Umm! so now if I want to install things like flash or play DVD what do I need to add?07:21
u|qosKuyaedz: allow max/min amount of data send each second ...07:22
Kuyaedzmunzir: you'll probably want the universe repository & backports07:22
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Slarti2anyone ever had a problem with the sound of static from their soundcard (sb1024)?07:22
munzirKuyaedz, backports means what? I thought it has something to do with old packages, no?07:22
La_PaRCaok, here is a quesiton... I just freed some space in my hard drive, but it is not contiguous to the partition I use as /home, how can I make that space part of that partition?07:23
oli_my pc, under ubuntu breezy. totally freeze from time to time, mostly randomly,  and i have to reboot... i dont have any idea whats causing this...07:23
Kuyaedzmunzir: backports is more not-officially supported packages, but some very useful07:23
rosendoes anyone here have experience in installing planeshift on an Ubuntu box ?07:23
hackersito69hello07:23
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Kuyaedzmunzir: if you're in synaptic check Settings > Repositories > Add & make sure everything is checked07:24
Kuyaedzmunzir: that'll give you access to the widest range of supported programs for installation07:24
Jaymacheh.. Linus has got involved in the Gnome vs KDE dispute07:24
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qt2my uname -r shows 2.6.15-7-686 even though installed from 2.6.12 sources + ubuntu patches... any idea what the hell is up with it?07:25
bulioonce I get another ethernet cable, I'll be plugging in my wireless rour07:25
bulio*router07:25
buliohow will I adjust pppoeconf?07:26
bulio<bulio> <bulio> as the router will handle the auth07:26
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bulioI plug it in, then what?07:26
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gentixcan anyone tell me how I can configure xorg in ubuntu 5.1007:27
munzirKuyaedz, thanks a lot for this tip of enabling the backports. It worked07:28
gentixI can't run xorgconfig07:28
Kuyaedzmunzir: no problem07:28
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L33Hambleygentix - use /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:29
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siriusnovahaha07:29
L33Hambleyand vi, or nano, or gedit07:29
siriusnovaI didn't know playboy had a Linux mirror :D07:29
Kuyaedzlol07:30
siriusnovahttp://mirrors.playboy.com07:30
siriusnovalmao07:30
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gentixL33Hambley: won't do. I need a configuration tool for this07:30
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gentixL33Hambley: won't do. I need a configuration tool for this I dunno all the specs07:30
L33Hambleygentix - why?07:30
siriusnovathats kinda cool, now I can tell friends to go to Playboy and download linux from there :P07:30
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buliohow do I change root password?07:31
bulioright now it is the same as user password07:31
L33Hambleysudo passwd07:31
L33Hambleyand enter the old one, then 2 new ones i believe07:31
bulioand how do I use 12-hour time?07:31
bulioIts using 24 atm07:31
korhalfwhats a good drawing utility for linux?07:31
encompasswhen trying sudo apt-get install realplayer I get this...07:31
encompassE: Package realplayer has no installation candidate07:32
korhalfto design brochures and ads i mean07:32
gentixL33Hambley: on 5.0X i had the xorgconfig tool. With wich I could select the right stuff07:32
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gentixNow I can't run xorgconfig07:32
Kuyaedzbulio: you can change that in your clock preferences in your panel07:32
bulioanyone?07:32
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buliothanks07:32
siriusnovawe need Ubuntu Girls07:32
L33Hambleygentix - what are you trying to configure about it ?07:32
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encompasswe need ubuntu not_so_newbee07:32
gentixL33Hambley: the hertz of the monitor07:32
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Kuyaedzecompass: I don't know that realplayer is available thru apt-get.  Have you activated backports & universe repositories?07:33
sinizzli need drugs07:33
L33Hambleygoogle for a modeline generator then07:33
sinizzlhaschisch07:33
gentixI'm at 60 htz and well.. I have troubled eyes07:33
korhalfanyone know?07:33
siriusnovaJaymac - will you pose in sexy poses wearing a shirt with Ubuntu on it?07:33
siriusnovalol07:33
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encompassyes07:33
encompassI have07:33
matidRunning some funny project afaig ;)07:33
encompasshttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/ nhas the instructions07:33
matids/afaig/again07:33
gentixThis is one pain in the @#$@#$ you don't even wanna know07:33
navaroneafternoon folks07:33
korhalfDoes anyone know what program i can use to create brochures and ads in linux?07:33
Kuyaedzencompass: are you using breezy or hoary?07:33
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encompassnewest07:33
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Kuyaedzencompass: then the instructions on ubuntuguide.org are going to be a little off.. make sure they are active in System > Admin > Synaptic > Tools > Repositories > Add07:34
korhalfDoes anyone know what program i can use to create brochures and ads in linux?07:34
jrrkorhalf: have you tried oo.org's offerings?07:34
Chamwork-inkscape maybe07:34
matidkorhalf: Iskcape07:34
korhalfThanks :D07:34
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Chamwork-Inkscape is nice :)07:35
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navaronekorhalf, if you mean in a desktop publishing type manner you can probably use OpenOffice but I am sure there are more suitable programs designed specifically for that type of thing07:35
jrrinkscape isn't a desktop publishing program; it's vector graphics drawing07:35
Chamwork-it's like Publisher07:35
chasmarangwhen I do a command line su root it ask for a password *I don't even know07:35
Kuyaedzencompass: also, check out Applications > Add Applicatoins & search for realplayer.  That should help you get it installed07:35
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Chamwork-chasmarang, use yours07:35
tuskerniniok, me again... HOW do i open apache to the outside world?07:35
jrrchasmarang: the root count isn't useable by default07:35
navaronechasmarang...you use sudo and the pass is your current users password07:36
jrryou can passwd root if you *really* want to use it07:36
jrror you can just sudo07:36
jrrsudo bash if you need to do multiple things07:36
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korhalfjrr, sudo -i does the same thing07:36
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chasmarangthanks people07:36
encompassthanks, got it now07:37
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chasmarangjolly holiday07:37
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kakeiwho can help me configuring a chroot? http://www.seanius.net/geek/amd64/cedega-hl2-amd64.html07:38
Kuyaedztuskernini: probably need to port forward 80 on your router07:38
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navaronekorhalf...take a look at Scribus in repo...google it first to see it it meets your needs07:38
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tuskerninikuyaedz, i am almost certain that it is activated... my router has virtual host section ... and i opened it on port 80...07:39
navaronekorhalp...www.scribus.net07:39
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Kuyaedztuskernini: did you port forward 80 to your LAN IP?07:39
tuskerniniKuyaedz, the same ip as my router, the end is just one more...07:40
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tuskernini192.168.1.2 where my router is 192.168.1.107:40
Kuyaedztuskernini: right, probably 192.168.1.2 (or something).  I'm assuming your router has a port forwarding section, add it to point to your IP there07:40
carlohi all07:40
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carloa little question about gnome..07:41
Mabus06How do you edit the artist and track name of a .mp3 file?07:41
carlohow can i change the default character encondig in gnome?07:41
Kuyaedztuskernini: your router is the initial contact to the outside world.  If it isn't told to point to your PC it'll never get thru07:41
tuskerniniKuyaedz, thats it.. it is done... so the problem must be somewhere else?07:41
Kuyaedztuskernini: do you have any firewall installed on your system? ie; firestarter?07:42
tuskerniniKuyaedz, so there is something else i also have to change... no firewall07:42
navaronetuskernini, are you using a kernel w/out iptables?07:42
k31th_you guys use imap at all ?07:43
tuskerniniNavarone, i dont know.. i set up the server with help from the forums07:43
tuskerninidont think so07:43
k31th_?07:43
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carlowho can help me?07:43
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carlohow can i change the default character encondig in gnome?07:44
EscapeFXhey guys, how can I check to see that both of my CPUs are working?07:44
navaronetuskernini, go to terminal and type locate iptables...if you get a lot of hits it is installed. If so, install firestarter and you should be able to reconfigure ports07:44
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jrrso i'm installing breezy on an imac 266 right now.. this will be interesting.07:45
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prakityI have a sony vaio portable running 5.10 -- I want to turn off tapping on the trackpad07:45
prakityany idea how -- I tried MaxTimeOut 0 and Button0 007:46
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rosenis there a known reason why in Ubuntu I cannot run to sound outputs at the same time .. like running skype + music or whatever ?07:47
gentixI can't run xorfconfig on 5.10 how come??07:47
rosenis there a known reason why in Ubuntu I cannot run TWO sound outputs at the same time .. like running skype + music or whatever ?07:48
rosenthat's how it was supposed to sound07:48
jrrrosen: has to do with your sound driver.. what kind of card you have?07:48
jrralso an ALSA vs OSS thing, but i'd think just about any card would be supported by alsa by now07:48
tuskernininavarone, i got lots of hits... but i did not do it that way the last time...07:49
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rosena onboard SiS soundcard07:49
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EscapeFXAny way I can tell if both of my CPUs are wokring?07:49
rosenjrr, but it's seems to work in all other aspects07:49
jrrcat /proc/cpuinfo?07:49
goosehi i have a fairly stupid n00b question. how does automatic updates with ubuntu-calendar work?07:50
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EscapeFXjrr processor: 0    means single?07:50
goosei.e. how do i enable it?07:50
EscapeFX1 would be dual?07:50
jrrEscapeFX: on our server there are two entries, proc 0 and 107:50
jrrEscapeFX: one for each chip07:50
EscapeFXmine only shows one... crap07:51
EscapeFXi know the hardware physically works07:51
EscapeFXany suggestions of where i go from here?07:51
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navaroneEscapeFX, are you using the appropriate kernel?07:51
jrrEscapeFX: i'd expect the stock ubuntu kernels to support SMP07:51
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jrrbut if not, maybe there's specia lones07:51
jrr*special ones07:51
jrror else you could roll your own07:52
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navaronethere ar ekernels marked as smp07:52
EscapeFXim in a tad over my head i think07:52
EscapeFXi just about could handle the install that i did07:52
EscapeFXheh07:52
navaroneEscapeFX, are you using the stock kernel from cd install?07:52
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jrrrosen: i've had that happen before, and i believe i fixed it by using a different sound driver. maybe ubuntu picked one that doesn't permit multiple simultaneous sounds or maybe there *isn't* one that allows them07:52
jrr!smp07:53
ubotfluextra, extra, read all about it, smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.07:53
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rosenjrr, but.. any suggestions on how to fix it ? .. I'm only a 48hour old linux user so I'm kind of lost here07:54
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paxmasterHello I am problem I am doing  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)07:54
paxmasterPackage `linux-image-2.6.12-paxmaster' is not installed and no info is available07:54
paguxi just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-( ....on kubuntu07:55
dooglusrosen: you again?07:55
paguxafter logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have kill X07:55
dooglusrosen: what is it this time?  :)07:55
rosendooglus, sorrryyyy07:55
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paxmasterdo you have gdm install ?07:56
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Astxisthow do I unmount a usbfs?07:56
AstxistI tried using unmount volume from the right click menu but no go07:56
paguxi am using kdm07:56
dooglusAstxist: "sudo umount /path/to/mount/point"07:56
rosendooglus, my soundcard can only handle one source at a time .. wich is bad since I'm on skype allmost constantly and would like to run some sounds aswell07:56
jrrpaxmaster: i think you messed up uname07:56
Astxistand umount says something like Cannot create link /etc/mtab~07:56
AstxistPerhaps there is a stale lock file?07:56
munzirSirs! how can I play DVD's in ubuntu? I just insterted one and totem said there were no decoders07:56
dooglusrosen: if you stop using skype, can it handle more than one at a time?07:56
paguxis possible 2 use both kde and gnome on ubuntu ?07:57
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paguxmunzir r u grom india?07:57
jrrpagux: yes.07:57
paguxi just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-( ....on kubuntu07:57
rosendooglus, nah it's the same07:57
munzirpagux, no why?07:57
jrrpagux: try checking the multiverse/universe/whatever other apt repositories and see if KDE is in there somewhere07:57
dooglusrosen: oh.  I only ask because that's what happens for me.  I can runs lots of sounds at once, but skype doesn't play nicely with anything else.07:57
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paxmasteruname -a07:58
paxmasterLinux linuxbox 2.6.12-paxmaster #1 Wed Dec 7 16:10:10 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:58
Strikepagux: He's from Saudi Arabia.07:58
jrrpagux: although it goes against my religion to help you use kde =D07:58
rakeshhi friends07:58
paguxafter logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have 2 kill X gnome each time as nothing comes up07:58
rakeshwere to code the cgi programming in the file system07:58
dooglusAstxist: what does umount say?07:58
rosendooglus, ah ok I'll try testing it again.. 2 mins07:58
paxmasterit know my kernal07:58
munzirStrike, why should this matter!07:58
dooglusrosen: I had assumed the problem was that skype is a KDE app, and everything else I run is GNOME.07:59
Strikemunzir, it doesn't07:59
jrrpaxmaster: so you're trying to reconfigure your customized kernel?07:59
Strikehe simply asked if you were from India - and you're not, so I told him where you were from :-p07:59
paguxjrr: i have kubuntu destop ...i want 2 install gnome07:59
paxmasterwell I want  to change my usplash screen to blue07:59
munzirStrike, thanks for the info then ;)07:59
Astxistdooglus, Cannot create link /etc/mtab~ Perhaps there is a stale lock file?07:59
Strike?07:59
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Strikebut okeh :-)07:59
EscapeFXjrr ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso is what i picked08:00
rosendooglus, seems you are right again ... it's sort of getting old ya know ? :D08:00
jrrpagux: whew much better08:00
mysterydragonhello everybody, i'm experiencing problems with the live boot cd of ubuntu08:00
paguxi just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-( ....on kubuntu08:00
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paguxafter logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have 2 kill X gnome each time as nothing comes up08:00
munzirStrike, so if you don't want me to make a law case against you for revealing sensitive info, can you tell me why totem don't want to play my DVD? wha'ts missing?08:00
rakeshwere is cgi-bin file system08:00
soundraypagux, can you login on the text console?08:00
paguxyup ...08:00
rosendooglus, guess I'll try to find a replacement for skype that'll run on windows aswell ... googletalk or something08:01
paguxand into kde but not gnome :-(08:01
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dracflamlochello08:01
dracflamlochow can i disable gdm?08:01
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dooglusrosen: I was kind of meaning to get around to looking into what the problem is with skype and sound, but I don't really use it enough.  It's always running, but I don't make a lot of calls08:02
dr_willisdracflamloc,  you wanting to boot straight to the console?08:02
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soundraypagux, are you short of diskspace? (df)08:02
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Strike12.13[14:00:34]  <munzir> Strike, so if you don't want me to make a law case against you for revealing sensitive info, can you tell me why totem don't want to play my DVD? wha'ts missing? <-- There's no need to be an idiot, its not sensitive info as you're publicly broadcasting it.08:02
paguxno08:02
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StrikeAnd there is no law against me revealing information that you publicly broadcast.08:02
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dracflamlocdr_willis, i was to use fvwm-themes-start to start my x session but it doesnt show in the session list in gdm, so i either want to add it or just boot to terminal so i can start it08:02
soundraypagux, look at your $HOME/.xsession-errors to see if there is a clue08:02
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StrikeDon't pick legal battles when you have no clue what you're talking about.08:03
fredlhow can you tell totem to use esd?08:03
dr_willisdracflamloc,  its fairly easy to add new sessions to the gdm  list.08:03
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dracflamlocwhat file do i look in08:03
StrikeIt'll get others irritated and you in trouble for frivilous lawsuits08:03
ElsanWhat tool should I use to convert my mp3 collection to OGG Vorbis?08:03
dr_willisdracflamloc,  theres some dir that has a  '*.desktop' entry for every item in the gdm list..08:03
dr_willisdracflamloc,  i just can never remember where it is :P08:03
rakeshany body there who knows cgi prog08:03
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benji_i have a bit of a silly question about repositories... can anyone help?08:03
jrrEscapeFX: any luck?  what you need to do is find a kernel package that supports SMP.08:04
rosendooglus, ah ok I use it constantly with a buddy of mine, so it's sort of essential. But I'm sure there must be some alternatives out there... I just gotta find them ;)08:04
fredlcgi proc??08:04
dooglusrakesh: there's nothing much to know about cgi programming08:04
soundrayElsan, have you looked at the information about transcoding on xiph.org?08:04
jrrEscapeFX: you can probably do that with the graphical package thing, but i'm a bit unfamiliar with it.08:04
fredlrakesh: preferably you want to forget about CGI.08:04
HappyFoolbenji_: what's the question?08:04
dr_willisdracflamloc,    /usr/share/xsessions/*.desltop08:04
dr_willisdracflamloc,    /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop files :P08:04
paguxnothing all kde related errors08:04
rakeshdooglus can u tell were to put the cgi code08:04
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soundrayElsan, essentially the creators of Ogg Vorbis warn you that it is a Bad Idea(tm).08:05
dooglusrakesh: that depends on your web server configuration08:05
Elsansoundray: How come? I just  want to use something without licensing fees..08:05
munzirStrike, I am just kidding08:05
dracflamlocdr_willis, thanks08:05
paguxi am using kdm ......is that can be aproblem ?08:05
munzirStrike, bu08:06
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rakeshdooglus, in fedora there is file called cgi-bin for code but here ?08:06
munzirStrike, by the way may be I need to tell you there is no law even if you hacked my PC here so don't worry ;)08:06
soundrayElsan, the reason is one of audio quality. Compression artefacts from MP3 encoding and Ogg encoding add up, making the result sound worse than a direct encode from WAV or CDR.08:06
Elsansoundray: So... I'd be better off just ripping my CDs again?08:07
Strikeheh - not familiar with Saudi Arabian law but I may go into information & privacy appelate law in the US08:07
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soundrayElsan, it depends on whether you can live with the quality loss.08:07
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Elsansoundray: Then I'll forget about it... a lot of my music comes from my friends' CDs...08:07
Strikeif I can deal with the conceited morons in the legal field08:08
JemtGreetings. Is it safe to 'apt-get remove firefox' ?08:08
tobi-wan[away] Jemt: sure, if you do not want to use firefox08:08
benji_happyfool the question is i used the ubuntuguide.org repositories to install a few apps on my ubuntu when i had 5.04 installed but now i have 5.10 can I use the same repositories08:08
JemtI'm affraid that it might remove important dependencies08:08
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Jemttobi-wan[away] : Ok, great :)08:08
fredltotem appears to be a rather disappointing application....08:08
JemtThanks08:08
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lfopis there any disk-defrag tool for ubuntu?08:08
tobi-wan[away] Jemt: apt takes care of the dependencies, nothing will get broken, i think08:08
HappyFoolbenji_: i believe ubuntuguide.org is a bit out-of-date08:08
soundrayElsan, really what you need to do is transcode a few MP3s to Ogg and listen for artifacts and whether they bother you.08:08
fredlor is that just me??08:08
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HappyFoolbenji_: have you looked at help.ubuntu.com ? or system -> help -> starter guide ?08:09
Elsansoundray: Ok. What too should I use to transcode then?08:09
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soundrayElsan, the way to work this is to go via uncompressed audio, i.e. MP3 -> WAV -> Ogg Vorbis.08:09
benji_happyfool I realised that also... heh is there any other quick quide or site where I can find repositories for common apps?08:09
Jemttobi-wan[away] : Well, it says it will remove 'gnome-app-install' and 'ubuntu-desktop'08:09
spdlbbiab08:09
benji_I'm quite new to linux and ubuntu08:09
Jemttobi-wan[away] : To mention a few..08:09
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lfopis there any disk-defrag tool for ubuntu??08:10
HappyFoolbenji_: seveas has written a neat web-page to generate a sources.list, but i don't know the url08:10
soundrayubotflu: tell benji_ about easysource08:10
Jemtlfop: I don't think you need one. Linux is not as crazy as Windows :)08:10
HappyFoolchanged his name, has he?08:10
tobi-wan[away] Jemt: yeah, because firefox is one of the basic components of ubuntu's desktop (the default browser)08:10
lfopJemt. ok =)08:10
Jemtlfop: Well, depends on your filesystem of cause :)08:10
tobi-wan[away] Jemt: but ubuntu-desktop, for instance, is only a meta-package08:11
paguxi just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-( ....on kubuntu08:11
JemtYou are probably running EXT2/308:11
paguxafter logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have 2 kill X gnome each time as nothing comes up08:11
lfopyeah08:11
Jemttobi-wan[away] : What about 'gnome-app-installer' ?08:11
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Jemttobi-wan[away] : 'gnome-app-install' even08:11
tobi-wan[away] Jemt: and even if it breaks things, you can easily re-install the stuff, so why not give it a try?08:11
tobi-wan[away] Jemt: hmm.... i'm not sure about that, i have to admit08:11
Jemttobi-wan[away] : Ok, thanks.08:11
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benji_seveas what is the url of your site?08:11
Jemttobi-wan[away] : Okay :)08:12
benji_thanks soundray and ubotflu08:12
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mOrPHL1n9hi, any1 know how can i get my spanish keyboard running with all keys on ubuntu?08:12
fredlis there, like, a package that I can install that will give totem all the normal video and audio plugins at the same time?!?!08:12
rounedoes anywone know if fluxbox works with AMD 64,os ubuntu?08:12
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Deterministhow do i place the trash icon on my desktop?08:13
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paxmasterOh yeah i was installing ubuntu on the laptop with 17 " monitor because the lcd is not working, when the x window start it fail to start08:13
Deterministroune, should work just fine, i suppose08:13
kafeineroune: shouldn't be any problems08:13
paxmastergdm08:13
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paguxi just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-( ....on kubuntu08:14
rouneokay, coz i found a deb pack or something(i dont know anything about linux^^) so i tried to install it, but didnt work, coz it was for 32, it saod08:14
paguxafter logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have 2 kill X gnome each time as nothing comes up08:14
paxmasterI also did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it not working08:14
rounesaid*08:14
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soundraypagux, have you looked at .xsession-errors like I asked you to?08:14
paguxnothing all kde related errors08:14
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benji_thanx all of you08:14
benji_:P08:14
MezHmm08:14
Mezwhat program with ubuntu lets me get into Windows machines through RDP - not VNC08:15
paguxsoundray: nothing all kde related errors08:15
soundrayElsan, was I making sense?08:15
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ExxcaliberMez, there's one build in08:15
ExxcaliberMez, the terminal server client08:15
paguxpagux@pagux-amy:~$ cat .xsession-errors  | grep gtk  turned up nothing08:15
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sethkMez, there is terminal server support in the kernel, which needs to be enabled before you can do anything else in this area.  I would have to check on the linux side userland tools.08:16
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soundraypagux, that is not the way to trace the error you're seeing.08:16
sethkMez, what Exxcaliber said, the terminal server client.  :)08:16
EscapeFXdoes anyone have any experience switching to a smp kernel and can help me out?08:16
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buliohow can I tell what apt-get upgraded?08:16
soundraypagux: restart gdm, run a tail on .xsession-errors in the text console, then switch to gdm and login. When it hangs, look at the tail of .xsession-errors.08:17
Elsansoundray: Yes, you were :p. What tool should I use to transcode then? It seems Kaudiocreator would do the job...08:17
jrrbulio: you can start by checking the cache in /var/apt/cache/08:17
jrrer, /var/cache/apt08:17
soundrayElsan, whatever takes your fancy.08:17
dooglusrosen: did you see this? http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html08:17
paguxsoundray: I am using kdm not gdm08:17
jrrEscapeFX: open up your packages browser and see if there's smp kernels in there08:17
fredlwow, lots of questions here tonight :)08:17
jrrEscapeFX: if not, you'll need to compile your own, which is difficult but documented08:17
Elsansoundray: I'm not much of a sound fanatic. Never really had the musical ear. So I don't really even see the difference besides stereo/mono sound.08:17
buliook08:17
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gib8hi08:17
buliowhat file do I view?08:18
soundraypagux, but you're trying to start Gnome? Same procedure then.08:18
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jrrbulio: when new packages are downloaded, they are copied into that directory08:18
sethkEscapeFX, there isn't much to it.  Just kernel options08:18
gib8can someone please help me to ajust the monitor-picture (sice of the screen but not the resolution)?08:18
jrrbulio: i'm sure there's a much better and correct way to check08:18
bulioin archives?08:18
jrrsome log somewhere08:18
jrrtry /var/log08:18
jrryes08:18
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EscapeFXseth_k, is it literally just an apt-get linux-686-smp  and viola?08:18
paguxsoundray: shoudi remove My esiting x sessio errors file then08:19
ZugwrackAnd if you are using synaptic to install packages you can select file/history08:19
soundrayElsan, use any MP3 decoder, and use oggenc (or some frontend) to create Ogg Vorbis.08:19
buliowhich file?08:19
fredlviola?08:19
buliojrr: what file in there?08:19
soundraypagux, no, unnecessary. In the text console, run 'tail -f $HOME/.xsession-errors'08:19
EscapeFX"just apt-get linux-686-smp and its all done" ?08:19
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bulio?08:20
bulioanoyne?08:20
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jrri don't know. look around. look for "apt"08:20
bulioalso, how do I do a software upgrade08:20
bulioaptitude?08:20
jrror dpkg08:20
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paguxsoundray: I will be back ;-)08:20
Zugwrackbulio: It will automatically tell you when updates are available08:20
soundraygib8, that's usually done in the monitor settings08:20
gormhi my al-gr isn't working. when i start X, I get "error activating KXB configuration"08:20
gormXKB08:21
soundraypagux, good luck.08:21
fredlso what's the diff between totem-gstreamer and totem-xine, apart from that one works and the other one doesn't?08:21
buliowhat will?08:21
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buliowhat will tell me I need to update?08:21
fredland which totem is preferable?08:21
gib8soundray, where can i find these monitor settings?08:21
fredlbulio - a little icon on the top right of your screen will.08:21
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Zugwrackbulio: It is magic..when there are updates a window will pop up and tell you there are updates available08:22
soundraygib8, on the monitor.08:22
buliothat my apps need updating?08:22
bulioeven in 4.10 warty?08:22
gib8soundray, no my monitor doesnt have this things :-(08:22
buliothats what I have08:22
Zugwrackbulio: Nope08:22
bulioI'm not upgradingto breezy08:22
dooglusrakesh: in breezy, cgi scripts go in /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ by default, but you can configure apache to use any directory you like08:22
soundraygib8, what kind of monitor is it and how old?08:22
gib8soundray, philips brilliance 10708:22
gib8soundray, old ;)08:22
rosendooglus, nah I didnt .. I am now though ;)08:22
ZugwrackOk so then use synaptic to check for available updates/mark them and install them then08:23
soundraygib8, I mean is it a CRT or LCD?08:23
buliook08:23
buliohow do I use synaptic?08:23
gib8soundray, i remember an old tool for suse with which this was possible, a crt monitor08:23
gib8soundray, it called sax i mean08:23
dooglusbulio: run "pgrep -l update" - you'll see the name of the process which is watching for updates for you08:23
soundraygib8, okay, you're looking for a modeline generator.08:23
Zugwrackdooglus: He is version 4.10 Ubuntu08:23
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dooglusZugwrack: did 4.10 not have the update-notifiedr?08:24
soundraygib8, try xvidtune08:24
gib8soundray, could be, i dont know for what i am looking ;)#08:24
fredlwhy would anybody want to be running 4.10?08:24
gib8soundray, okay thx :-)08:24
ZugwrackI don't believe it did no....at least on the PPC version it didn't08:24
bulioI don't see anyhting08:24
dooglusZugwrack: kubuntu still doesn't have it - in 5.1008:24
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buliobulio@emachine:~ $ sudo pgrep -l update08:24
buliobulio@emachine:~ $08:24
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Zugwrackdooglus: Ok well I was assuming bulio was talking ubuntu/gnome08:25
bulioubuntu gnome 4.10 warty08:25
soundraygib8, apt-cache search modeline throws up videogen, which seems to be more recent. But I don't know it.08:25
dooglusZugwrack: I think he was...08:25
dooglusZugwrack: since there was no kubuntu 4.1008:25
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bulioI did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade before08:25
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gib8soundray, i found something about xvidtunes, i will try this first :-)08:26
HappyFoolfredl: trying to piece your ubuntu back together? ;)08:26
ZugwrackOk so the information about Kubuntu not having the update notifier is related to his question how?08:26
Elsansoundray: Thanks.08:26
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jonohey all08:26
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fredlHappyFool - well everything's working quite alright. I just got a lot of applications I never bothered to use, all the fancy multimedia shit, so now I'm trying out things :)08:27
fredlHappyFool: and as always, experimenting goes easier with some loud rocktunes on the background :P08:27
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fredlalthough, hmm, maybe some more Tiesto or Paul Oakenfold maybe...08:28
jrrafterhoursdj.org08:28
jrrthey've got a 192kbit stream, which is unheard of for internet radio08:29
fredlI always am torn between loud rockmusic or clean trance music. Never know which makes me work more comfortably.08:29
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buliofirefox 1.0.708:29
fredljrr - I often listen to di.fm08:29
soundrayfredl, stop it - my boy's just playing finger exercises on the piano :(08:29
buliois that latest ubuntu version?08:29
soundray:)08:29
EscapeFXthanks guys08:30
fredldi.fm rockz. It was my lifeline to European trance when I lived in the US :)08:30
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fredlHrmm, anybody here that uses Kino?08:30
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buliofirefox 1.0.708:31
buliois that latest ubuntu version?08:31
buliobecause thats what synaptic says08:31
fredlbulio....08:31
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fredlyou're strange man...08:31
marcin_hi does somebody use a evolution in ubuntu 5.1008:31
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buliofredl: why?08:31
HappyFoolbulio: looks like 1.0.7 is the latest version for 5.1008:32
buliogreat08:32
bulioso synaptic is working08:32
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bulioall the apps got updated08:32
fredlThe latest ubuntu version is 5.10.08:32
bulioI'm using 4.1008:32
bulioI'm not going to 5.1008:32
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fredlyes.08:32
fredloh wait...08:32
buliobreezy was giving me problems08:32
UnL0cKgnome or kde?08:32
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HappyFoolbulio: not a clue about 4.10 -- take a look on packages.ubuntu.com08:32
fredlnever mind me bulio.08:32
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JemtGreetings. I have just installed build-essential and CheckInstall in order to make it easier to compile programs. But I'm not sure how to use checkinstall. Should I still execute 'make' before 'checkinstall packagename' ?08:33
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fredlbrb08:33
Kyral.....checkinstall is evil08:33
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linx_is there a place where i can get a good source.list so i don't have to add all of them in?08:35
Kyrallinx_: its not like its hard...08:35
HappyFoolJemt: maybe read 'man checkinstall' ? (no-one here seems to be answering)08:35
linx_kyral true but it gets old08:35
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Kyrallinx_: how often do you do it lol08:35
JemtHappyFool: Thanks08:35
HappyFool!tell linx_ about sources08:35
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linx_kyral i had to format 3 times this week08:36
Kyrallinx_: ouch08:36
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linx_kyral ya08:36
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linx_kyral so source.list is last thing i want to do08:36
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Kyralwhy did you have to reformat08:36
fredlHrmm can this gnome window manager autoraise windows and focus follows mouse?08:36
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linx_kyral various stuff08:36
fredlI hate that point to click shit08:37
ntldrHi08:37
HappyFoolfredl: system -> preferences -> windows08:37
Kyralfredl yes I thinnk08:37
Adam_Hi guys. I'm doing a survey for my final year project and I would very much appreciate it if you could submit a number of website addresses you use on a regular basis. Please check http://adamgp.cjb.cc Thanks!08:37
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linx_kyral like vmware killed my ubuntu o.O08:37
fredlah :) thanks HappyFool, thought I'd ask a simple one to get an answer *evilgrin*08:37
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HappyFoolheh ;)08:37
ntldrI have a display problem with Midnight Commander in full screen text mode08:37
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aircooledmadness snoop.burghcom.com08:38
rosendooglus, it seems my setting were allready like they suggested on the webpage.. But browsing through the forums I found rumors about a skype2 that should be comming soon... one can hope :)08:38
sethklinx_, vmware does have a tendency to be lethal.  However, it really shouldn't kill ubuntu.  what do you see?08:38
fredlMidnight Commander, oh what a wonderfull application :)08:38
fredlhehe my name is in the Authors list :)08:38
paguxi am getting this error in .xsession_errors when i try to login via gnome08:38
pagux_IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp08:38
pagux_IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.08:38
pagux_IceTransmkdir: ERROR: Cannot create /dev/X08:38
pagux_IceTransPTSOpenServer: mkdir(/dev/X) failed, errno = 1308:38
linx_sethk after i installed it... when id go to do anything pretty much that took a lil bit of ram itd freeze even when vm wasn't runing08:38
Kyralno paste in here08:38
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pagux_IceTransOpen: transport open failed for pts/pagux-amy:08:38
ntldrfredl, yeah, I want to use it, but it displays all things overlapped08:38
pagux_IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for pts08:38
pagux_IceTransISCOpenServer: Protocol is not supported by a ISC connection08:38
pagux_IceTransOpen: transport open failed for isc/pagux-amy:08:39
pagux_IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for isc08:39
pagux_IceTransSCOOpenServer: Protocol is not supported by a SCO connection08:39
pagux_IceTransOpen: transport open failed for sco/pagux-amy:08:39
pagux_IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for sco08:39
Kyral!tell pagux about pastebin08:39
linx_sethk it was like it was always in the background08:39
fredlntldr - well my contribution to mc was YEARS ago when it still could not move/copy etc. directories08:39
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fredlntldr - so I really don't know too much about it =)08:39
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ntldrwhere can I paste a picture of it?08:39
ntldrupload08:39
Seveasntldr, pastebin :)08:39
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ntldrSeveas, what's the address?08:40
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Seveashttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:40
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ntldrthanks08:40
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gormError activating XKB configuration.08:40
gormIt can happen under various circumstances:08:40
gorm- a bug in libxklavier library08:40
gorm- a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)08:40
gorm- X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation08:40
gormX server version data:08:40
gormThe X.Org Foundation08:40
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Kyral.....08:40
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paguxhi folks08:40
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DjLinXdoes vmware have better graphix then cedega tho?08:40
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Kyral....08:41
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SeveasKyral, you're losing breadcrumbs :)08:41
buliowhere would xchat be installed to?08:41
Seveasbulio, /usr/bin/xchat08:41
fredlso will gstreamer replace xine?08:41
KyralSeveas: its called having two exams back to back08:41
SeveasKyral, ouch08:42
paguxi am trying 2 run gnome in kubuntu08:42
Seveaswhen was that/will that be?08:42
Kyral..pagux you can08:42
fredlbulio - dpkg -L xchat08:42
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Seveaspagux, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:42
KyralWe should really start calling this project MetaBuntu08:42
scenestarmeh08:42
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paguxi have just installed  ubuntu-desktop pakage08:42
scenestar'lo room08:42
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Seveaspagux, then logout, select gnome, login08:42
scenestari just installed ubuntu 5.4 on my laptop08:42
PupenoLI am using apt-ftparchive to make a repository, I configured it like: BinDirectory "ubuntu/breezy/rs/" { Packages "ubuntu/breezy/rs/Packages"; } and I get the error "E: Could not open file ./ubuntu/breezy/rs/binary-i386/Packages.gz.new - open (2 No such file or directory)". Why is it tring to access binary-i386 ? my packages are not there. Or how can I tell dpkg-buildpackage to store them there ?08:42
zerberus_hi all!08:42
scenestarbut i heard bad ship about the acpi08:42
Seveasscenestar, why the older version when it's a new install?08:43
scenestarcan someone put my mind at rest08:43
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scenestarand tell me it wont catch fire08:43
bulioall that it in /bulio is desktop08:43
paguxbut i am not able to login .....nothing happens when i select gnome08:43
DeloMorteError activating XKB configuration.08:43
DeloMorteIt can happen under various circumstances:08:43
DeloMorte- a bug in libxklavier library08:43
DeloMorte- a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)08:43
DeloMorte- X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation08:43
DeloMorteX server version data:08:43
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DeloMorteThe X.Org Foundation08:43
DeloMorte6080200008:43
DeloMorteIf you report this situation as a bug, please include:08:43
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Seveasjees08:43
scenestarSeveas: because that was the only disk i had kying around08:43
paguxi have 2 kill X server08:43
scenestarbesides, i had been using debian untill now08:43
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zerberus_anyone can help me with screen resolution? I allready read the HowTo and changed my xorg.conf but still I can't switch to 1280x1024. And thats the only res I have left in xorg.conf08:43
scenestari didnt know there was anew vbersion out08:43
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scenestarzerberus_: check that shit for syntax errors08:44
paguxbut i am not able to login .....nothing happens when i select gnome ... i have 2 kill xserver :-(08:44
scenestaryou probably fuicked up08:44
fredlzerberus - check the DefaultDepth I believe08:44
scenestaranwyays08:44
scenestaron the 64 bit AMD turions08:44
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fredlzerberus - in the Section "Screen" your xorg.conf will have a DefaultDepth <something>08:45
scenestarwhats the deal with the acpi08:45
zerberus_DefaultDepth is 24 and there is only 1280x1024 there, and no syntax errors08:45
scenestarwill my machine catch fire or not?08:45
ntldrHere is my MC problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/571108:45
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zerberus_in the system tool for res chang I can select a load of different modes but not 1280x102408:45
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paolohello08:45
holycowfor some reason ubuntu thinks text files are executables ... anyone know how to fix this?08:45
scenestarntldr: looks like you jsut misconfigured X08:45
paoloi need information08:46
Seveasntldr, export TERM=vt10008:46
Seveasand then retry mc08:46
scenestarholycow: thats becausde theyre scripts08:46
paoloi would like to buy a digital camera08:46
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holycowscenestar, no, plain ascii text files associated with gedit08:46
holycownot scripts08:46
fredlzerberus - did you check the logfile?08:46
paolobut i do not know what is better supported from gnu/linux08:46
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paolocan you help me ?08:46
KyralI shall take my leave for now08:46
jrri'm glad ttf-bengali-fonts install by default.  they're important.08:46
holycowthey never used to be recognized as executable08:46
JemtHm, I'm trying to compile Bluefish by executing './configure' - but it states that i'm missing a C compiler. What package(s) do I need to install ?08:46
Seveaspaolo, any camera that adheres to the usb removable drive standard is perfectly supported08:46
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fredlzerberus - it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:46
KyralJemt: sudo apt-get install bluefish08:46
paguxhere is xsession_errors -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/571208:46
Seveaspaolo, and most cameras do adhere to it08:46
zerberus_fredl: nope, where is it? Sorry just installed Ubuntu08:47
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JemtKyral: I want to compile it myself08:47
jrrJemt: gcc08:47
paguxi have just installed  ubuntu-desktop pakage08:47
paguxbut i am not able to login .....nothing happens when i select gnome ... i have 2 kill xserver :-(08:47
KyralJemt: Why...08:47
paguxhere is xsession_errors -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/571208:47
Jemtjrr: gxx is already installed08:47
paolodo you know any gopod type ?08:47
KyralJemt: then you need build-essiential08:47
JemtKyral: Take a wild guess08:47
JemtKyral: Newest version08:47
jrrJemt: howbout make and automake08:47
KyralJemt: because you are bored?08:47
Seveaspaolo, my pentax workd08:47
JemtKyral: Also installed :)08:47
fredlzerberus - there will be a ton of info in it. glance over it to see if you see anything recognizable08:47
Rokker_Stuim having some problems with playin some mp3s in ubuntu, it says, "totem could not play file bla bla bla.... there were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins" and thats all08:47
paxmasterHello I am having problem I am doing  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)08:47
SeveasJemt, apt-get build-dep bluefish (installs all buil dependencies)08:47
paolopentax model08:47
paxmasterPackage `linux-image-2.6.12-paxmaster' is not installed and no info is available08:47
scenestarRokker_Stu: read the forums08:47
Kyraljeez, I never seem to uderstand this obession with "The Latest Version"08:48
scenestarmp3s arent played out of the box08:48
Seveaspaolo, an old one :)08:48
Kyralif it ain't broke don't fix it08:48
Seveasbut afaik all pentaxes work08:48
scenestartheres some shellscripts that fix it fo you08:48
paguxpl pl someone tell whts wrong ...why cant i logg into gnome08:48
Jemtjrr: Can't execute make and make install before I have done 'configure'08:48
Rokker_Stuand what about vlc then?08:48
paoloand which formats are supported ?08:48
JemtSeveas: Already done that08:48
scenestarRokker_Stu: read the forums08:48
Seveaspaolo, formats?08:48
scenestarRTFM08:48
fredl(**) fglrx(0): *Mode "1600x1200": 229.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 106.2 kHz, 85.0 Hz08:48
Kyralscenestar: BAD!08:48
Seveasscenestar, RTFM is not a word we use in here08:48
KyralNo RTFM!08:48
scenestarD:08:48
paolo*jpg, bmp, gif etc....08:48
Rokker_Stuwhat forum?08:48
Seveaspaolo, all of them :)08:48
Kyralwww.ubuntuforums.org08:48
paolopng08:48
fredlsee LCD screens SO suck. LCD screen, eat THAT resolution and refresh rate :)08:48
jrr=D08:49
paolonot all08:49
Rokker_Stuno, not that, but which subforum?08:49
fredlSeveas - is FGI allowed?08:49
jrrmany lcd's can do that.08:49
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KyralRokker_Stu: search...08:49
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HappyFoolpagux: try logging in and removing the ~/.ICEauthority file08:49
jrrthe refresh rate doesn't much matter on lcd's as you can't see the flicker08:49
scenestarRokker_Stu: theres this awesoem search function08:49
scenestartry it08:49
Seveasfredl, no :)08:49
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KyralYah I'm gonna leave before I go to BOFH mode08:49
scenestarsame08:49
SeveasKyral, :)08:49
HappyFoolpagux: that's a guess - you mentioned problems with ICE earlier, and it sometimes fixes things to rm that file08:49
scenestarim not a people person08:49
fredlseveas - oh... ok... well I stick to the rulez although FGI is my favorite.08:49
paolothanks of all08:49
KyralI'll be back when I get done with all my work08:49
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Seveasfredl, I'm also tempted a lot to use it :)08:50
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fredlSeveas - you know there's an actual website for that right?08:50
Seveasyeah08:50
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Seveas(just)fuckinggoogleit.com08:50
fredlI thought that website was just friggen brilliant when I first saw it.08:50
veroniqueveronique08:50
Seveasit's brilliant for support people in BOFH mode :)08:51
fredlmwuhaha yeah08:51
jendaveronique: hello08:51
veroniquehello08:51
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Seveasfredl, I suppose you do know the real BOFH?08:51
scenestarmeh08:51
veroniquebonjour08:51
paguxHappyFool: What the heck is ICE ? I trying to login via newly installed Gnome (on kubuntu)08:52
fredlSeveas - I know the original stories if that's what you mean.08:52
scenestarparlais anglais kthnx08:52
Seveasfredl, yeah08:52
fredlI dunno if there ever was a REAL BOFH :)08:52
veroniquehello08:52
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scenestarhi08:52
fredlcoz that'd be bad.08:52
scenestarcan i help you?08:52
Seveaskinda08:52
fredlbut funny as shit :)08:52
paguxXauthority08:52
paguxXauthority08:52
paolobonjour a va veronique ?08:52
jendaveronique: Avec quoi as tu besoin d'aide?08:52
Seveaspaolo, we speak english in here08:52
scenestarguess not08:52
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Seveas!tell pagux about xhangs08:53
paolook08:53
paguxHappyFool: there is no ~/.ICEauthority file08:53
fredl"oh you need extra disk space then? *clickety click* rm -rf ~luser, well you just have 8Mb added to your uhh quota08:53
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jendaSeveas: I was gonna ask what she needed and see if I could help her in PMs08:53
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Seveaspagux, try ~/.Xauthority and /tmp/*08:53
HappyFoolpagux: apologies. i guessed wrong08:53
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ntldrSeveas: export TERM=vt100 <--- is that a command?08:54
Seveasntldr, yeah08:55
paguxHappyFool: is there any way I can start a gnome session whithout logging out of my current session08:55
Seveasyou might need to set a different vga mode when booting though08:55
Seveaspagux, gdmflexiserver08:55
HappyFoolpagux: tried applications -> system tools -> new login? (or listen to seveas ;)08:55
ntldreww08:56
paguxHappyFool: yeah nothing happens08:56
ntldrnow i got it black/white08:56
ntldr:)08:56
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korhalfanyone got some good advertisement layouts.08:56
korhalfmine sux0rz08:56
Seveasntldr lol, different vga parameter it is then :)08:56
korhalfjust like, templates08:56
Seveaskorhalf, -ETOPIC08:56
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korhalfwell someone recommended inkscape, cuz i was asking earlier whats a good ad designing program for linux08:57
korhalfbut it doesnt even support a color palette08:57
u|qoshow to manage the bandwidth generally in ubuntu?08:57
paguxok guys i will be back (after login)08:57
korhalfi have to use the dropper08:57
HappyFoolpagux: you can put your .xsession-errors up on the pastebin for us to look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:57
paguxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/571208:58
ElsanShould I just rerip my entire CD collection to Ogg Vorbis or convert it from MP3?08:58
korhalfconvert from mp3.08:58
korhalfprobably faster.08:58
Seveasconversion will lose qualoty08:58
Seveasquality even08:58
Seveasbut why not just keep it as mp3?08:58
korhalfit isnt -that- noticeable.08:58
Kuyaedzuse sound converter, available in Add Applications08:58
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scenestaranyways08:59
scenestardoes anyone know a nice package for gnome08:59
scenestarthat can monitor my cpu temp?08:59
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Mazokuscenestar ls-sensors+gkrellm?09:00
korhalfew gkrellm09:00
scenestarthank you09:00
korhalfyou sure there isnt something he can add to the panel?09:00
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paguxnothing happed :-(09:01
scenestarmeh09:01
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scenestarall im worried about09:01
scenestaris my machine overheating09:01
scenestarbecause that would suck09:01
rosen!checkgmail09:01
ubotflurosen: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:01
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Mazokukorhalf yea he can use hardware sensors monitor but i don't like09:01
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rosenubotflu I would kick your arse if you were real !09:01
ubotfluBugger all, i dunno, rosen09:01
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rosenyeah well you'll learn !09:02
scenestaruhuh09:02
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scenestarand in reall life i would bully you and steal your lunch money09:02
scenestarbut since we are on teh intarweb09:02
scenestarwell just have to live with it09:02
scenestarnow play nice kthnx09:02
lucasvowhat means: E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room09:02
lucasvoI get this error when I update my packages lists in apt09:02
jendalucasvo: How much RAM do you have?09:03
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lucasvojenda: 512MB09:03
villerhi09:03
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jendalucasvo: OK, I don't know :)09:03
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paguxi have two opened seesion how do i kill one of them ?09:03
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Seveaslucasvo, how much swap? Put your sources.list on the pastebin09:03
sethklucasvo, add some temporary swap09:03
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villerall the crappy tutorials on the internet are teaching how to install apps, but how to remove them if I didn't install them through synaptic?09:03
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pepperpotIs ubuntu's gaim working for anyone here? Is it just my install that's borked?09:04
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lucasvoSeveas: 500MB09:04
korhalfviller, learn how to use apt-get from the terminal09:04
paguxHappyFool: I tried again nothing happened09:04
Seveaslucasvo, then it's probably your sources.list :)09:04
scenestarpepperpot: its you09:04
villerkorhalf: from where? and does it work with apps i installed without apt-get?09:04
HappyFoolpagux: sorry, missed that URL09:04
korhalfviller, synaptic is just a frontend for apt-get09:04
HappyFoolpagux: just a sec while i read it09:04
lucasvohttp://pastebin.com/462706 < sources.list09:04
korhalfviller, sudo apt-get remove program09:04
villerkorhalf: i can't install ALL the apps through synaptic or apt-get09:04
pepperpotscenestar, thanks. You're using the one from the breezy apt source?09:04
paguxpl pl pl some one help me in logging into gnome09:04
rosenis there no guides how to install planeshift on an ubuntubox ?09:04
korhalfviller, yes you can..09:05
korhalfviller, all that are available in your sources' repository that is09:05
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villerkorhalf: i said ALL, i meant all the apps that are possible to install on Ubuntu09:05
korhalfviller, "all" is a lot of apps.09:05
korhalfviller, and i bet you won't use 90 percent of them09:05
villerkorhalf :D09:05
Dido-Anyone knows where should I add this lines to enable the pc in my network use my internet connection and if it needs any editing because this is tested on slack only? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/571409:05
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villerkorhalf: i won't09:06
HappyFoolpagux: hmm09:06
villerkorhalf: there's just one app i installed with make and now i don't know how to remove it09:06
korhalfwith make..09:06
villerhow to remove an app i have installed with make09:06
SeveasDido-, the ip_forward in /etc/sysctl.conf in the right format09:06
korhalfwell if that app used autotools, go to the dir of the source and do "make uninstall"09:06
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Seveasthe others in a separate initscript09:06
korhalfviller, never compile things, that's a last resort09:06
korhalfviller, use gentoo if you're going to compile09:06
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HappyFoolpagux: i have those too but my X is OK09:07
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HappyFoolpagux: standby. i'm going to logout and restart X09:07
Dido-Seveas, so what I need is just to add this and it09:07
squequohi!!!!09:07
villerkorhalf: i don't even know what's autotools09:07
Dido-Seveas, so what I need is just to add this and it's ready?09:07
FireCrackerHi guys, im looking for a vmware type program to try out BSD, on my linux system? Any suggestions?09:07
korhalfviller, if you don't, then don't compile09:07
Dido-Seveas, doesn't need any edit09:07
LadyNikonhey09:07
villerkorhalf: but i had to compile to use this app!09:07
korhalfviller, if you must, go and delete the idrectory where the binary and all that is, or go where the sources are(where configure and make is) then use make uninstall09:07
korhalfviller, what app is it?09:07
SeveasDido-, yeah09:08
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LadyNikonto add someone to wheel is it /etc/group?09:08
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korhalfviller, ?09:08
villerkorhalf: it's nut, not the nut dealing with that network stuff, it's the nut dealing with food or something09:08
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korhalfviller, what...09:08
FireCrackerAny siggestions?09:08
ubuntu_noobhi all09:08
korhalfnut - The core system of the nut - Network UPS Tools09:09
korhalf?09:09
villerkorhalf: nvm it's not important09:09
korhalfviller, if it's not important, don't ask.09:09
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villerkorhalf make uninstall didn't help09:09
HappyFoolpagux: i get all those ICE errors on login too09:09
SeveasHappyFool, get a new fridge then :)09:09
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Dido-Seveas, can u tell me how just to reload those files to avoid rebooting09:09
HappyFool:P09:09
villerkorhalf what the app does is not important, how to install it is inportant09:10
HappyFoolpagux: your problem is (i would guess) elsewhere09:10
korhalfviller, i need to know what app it is first.09:10
korhalfviller, in order to help you.09:10
SeveasDido-, make it executable and execute it09:10
ubuntu_noobi'm trying to install libstdc++.so.5, anyone know what command i gotta use so apt will do it right?09:10
SirGirIs there any neat app for "recording" desktop?09:10
paguxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/571509:10
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korhalfSirGir, you mean video capturing?09:10
villerkorhalf: http://directory.fsf.org/nut.html09:10
korhalfSirGir, im looking for one myself :) msg me if you find one09:10
SirGirkorhalf, Yes09:10
SirGirok09:10
Rokker_Stui still cant play my music09:10
Seveas!libstdc++.so.509:10
ubotfluhmm... libstdc++.so.5 is you can get the missing libstdc++.so.5 file by installing the 'libstdc++5' package.09:10
HappyFoolpagux: looks similar to mine09:11
paguxHappyFool: i made a new user i and tried again but same errors09:11
Rokker_Stuwell dont bother but, how do i while ive started up ubuntu live, copy what ive done so far?09:11
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Mazokuubuntu_noob sudo apt-get install libstdc++509:11
chasmaranghow can I find out where a certain IP address is by the numbers right?09:11
HymnToLifeRokker_Stu > what's the problem ?09:11
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paguxDoes this means on kubuutu one cant run GNOME ??09:11
HappyFoolpagux: please describe what happens when you try to login09:11
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HappyFoolpagux: it should work09:12
korhalfchasmarang, you can whois the ip09:12
paguxnothing zero zilth ....all i can see is my mouse cursor09:12
korhalfviller, i have no clue09:12
Rokker_StuI want to know how I copy my progress that ive done on Ubuntu live to my harddrive so i can continue later09:12
villerkorhalf :D09:12
pbransfordI want to set up an ad-hoc wireless network. I have a working ndiswrapper install, it connects fine to APs.09:12
korhalfviller, if you want to delete, delte the directory its in09:12
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pbransforddo i just need to change the mode from managed to something else09:12
HappyFoolpagux: and kde used to work?09:12
chasmarangyeah whois doesn't know I ran a full check09:13
pbransforddhcp won't be needed09:13
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PhoulHEllo09:13
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PhoulAntone know how to run counterstrike on ubuntu?09:13
Phoulanyone*09:13
korhalfwine09:13
korhalfbeware its slow09:13
PhoulI tried WINE09:13
AnarKisTicok this should be a really easy question for anyone who knows anything about ubuntu. i cannot access hda1 without using root. how can I set it up so that I can access hda1 from any user account?09:13
korhalfsome dude by the name of oliver is writing a d3d9 patch to make it faster.09:13
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pbransfordPhoul, play, or use the dedicated server09:13
wrtechnologyspanish09:13
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korhalfAnarKisTic, edit your /etc/fstab09:13
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paguxHappyFool: always and now too09:13
korhalfAnarKisTic, add your standard user in the group thats allowed access to that partition09:13
chasmarangis there a way to tell what city state or country by the numbers09:13
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Phoulplay09:14
korhalfchasmarang, no, do a whois lookup09:14
korhalfchasmarang, whois ip09:14
chasmarangwhois doesn't know09:14
AnarKisTickorhalf: I have already done that, makes no difference.09:14
pbransfordchasmarang, not really. they could be anything. But you can usually tell there ISP if you have a good list09:14
korhalfAnarKisTic, what do you mean makes no difference?09:14
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PhoulLike how do i run steam and stuff for ubuntu09:15
chasmarangI can ping and trace route but that's it no lookups09:15
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paguxwhat the heck is this ice stuff ;-) ?09:15
korhalfPhoul, wine!09:15
HappyFoolpagux: can you run     dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop|tail -1    in a terminal and tell me what it says ? (should be only 1 line)09:15
pbransfordPhoul, wine, or pay for cedega09:15
UziMonkeyanyone know if the Ruby in Ubuntu is the actual 1.8.3 release, or is it still a beta version?  The date --version gives is wrong.09:15
flodineguys what happen to gnome-look site09:15
korhalfdont pay for cedega09:15
pbransfordPhoul, cedega would be the best bet. at least for now.09:15
korhalfcompile it yourself, they have automated scripts for that09:15
bozelcan anybody tell me how to install the java ".bin"?09:15
AnarKisTickorhalf: the main group for my standard user is set to root. and it still says I do not have permission to access hda109:15
korhalfbozel, why not just get it with apt-get?09:15
chasmarangpbransford:  what do you mean good list09:15
bozelit s not java 509:15
bozeli need java 509:15
korhalfbozel, you can chmod a+x it and then ./java-xx-xx.bin09:15
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Seveas!tell bozel about javadeb09:16
pbransfordchasmarang, it involves probing websites for DNS->IP maps and such09:16
Seveaskorhalf, eeek09:16
korhalfSeveas, ?09:16
korhalfokay, chomd +x it.09:16
Seveaskorhalf, never do that directly, it installs crap all over the place09:16
pbransfordchasmarang, like if i know these 30 websites get there internet access through company X, i can look at their IPs and figure out what IP space X uses.09:16
Seveasrather use make-jpkg to turn it into a deb09:16
korhalfnever heard of that09:16
Phoulcedega aient in the repo09:16
pbransfordThen I can look up company X, do a little bit of deduction from the websites, etc. and figure out where they are09:17
pbransfordPhoul, cedega is pay software!09:17
pbransfordPhoul, you cant distribute it09:17
Phoulhow much09:17
paguxdpkg -l ubuntu-desktop|tail -109:17
Phouland where09:17
paguxii  ubuntu-desktop 0.80           The Ubuntu desktop system09:17
pbransfordhold on09:17
korhalfyou can download cedega source for free09:17
korhalfquit being idiots, dont pay for that crap09:17
SirGirkorhalf, http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=31109:17
pbransfordkorhalf, minus lots of important stuff!09:17
pagux:Happyfool i  ubuntu-desktop 0.80           The Ubuntu desktop system09:17
korhalfSirGir, thanks man ill check it out09:17
pbransfordPhoul, ignore korhalf about downloading cedega source09:17
bozelno09:17
SirGirkorhalf, np ;)09:17
korhalfyou know that wine works fine09:17
SirGirMe too09:17
korhalfi can run cs on wine perfectly09:17
paguxHappyFool: i  ubuntu-desktop 0.80           The Ubuntu desktop system09:17
HappyFoolpagux: that means it probably installed OK09:17
bozeli want to know, how to extract bin to deb09:17
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bozeli forgot the pages name09:18
bozelwhere it stands09:18
HappyFoolpagux: i'm running out of ideas09:18
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pbransfordSo if i set iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc09:18
thundrPhoul, $5 /month, but like korhalf says, you can install it from source (though it is very difficult)09:18
pbransfordand then manually set IPs and iwconfig essid them, i can easily talk between to radio cards right?09:18
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hippolaNeed help with nForce2 audio drivers! Any gurus here who can?09:18
pbransfordthundr, he left :/09:18
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thundr...oh.09:18
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pbransfordlol09:18
hippolaoh, darn09:19
korhalfthundr, there are automated scripts to aid in the process09:19
korhalfif you're a nub, use one of the scripts on linux-gamers.net09:19
paguxHappyFool: what 2 do now ?09:19
pbransfordtheres also a nifty invention called p2p :P (being sarcastic)09:19
korhalfand yes it lacks some features, but theres no such thing as a free lunch09:19
flodineguys what happen to gnome-look site is it gone09:19
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hippolascript for nforce2 audio?09:19
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thundrkorhalf, I tried those back on warty, what a mess. I'll try it out later this week, maybe you can help me set it up.09:19
pbransfordflodine, nobody likes to look at lawn-gnomes anymroe :(09:19
HappyFoolpagux: have you tried the mailing list or ubuntuforums.org ?09:19
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pbransfordwell, thanks for the help guys.09:20
korhalfthundr, don't even bother, most games work with wine just normally09:20
royjanhoLa09:20
chasmarangpbransford: http://www.nwtools.com  comes up with ziltch09:20
thrice`anyboyd have a solution for streaming video in firefox NOT using mplayer ?09:20
korhalfthundr, cedega is just wine with some extra hacks, its nothing to be paying money for09:20
royjanalgunas nias por alli09:20
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korhalfthrice`, you can stream it with a player like xine or osmething..whats wrong with mplayer anyway?09:20
thundrkorhalf, maybe you can help me with wine as well, then :)09:20
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pbransfordchasmarang, er, you would need to do it all yourself. Talk to people even. Not something quick n easy09:20
korhalfthundr, no problem :)09:20
hardybmHi !09:20
thrice`korhalf: it's compiled with poor deps09:20
korhalfthrice`, you compiled mplayer?09:21
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thrice`korhalf: but I can't get it to open an embedded stream in firefox09:21
thrice`totem that is09:21
korhalfthrice`, i think all you really need is mplayer and the w32codecs, you can add the marillat reps in your sources list09:21
korhalfthrice`, i dont use totem, cant help ya sorry09:21
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thrice`or totem-xine09:21
thrice`i wish there was a better integration then mplayerplug-in09:21
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thundrI use totem-xine, and that works (except in firefox, but I probably have it configured wrong)09:22
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chasmaranghttp://www.nwtools.com is an IP lookup and it doesnt find any records on 63.210.234.6909:22
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korhalfchasmarang, you know that you can use your linux machine and forget about those sites09:22
Rokker_StuHow do I make a backup of what ive done on my Ubuntu Live cd on my harddrive?09:22
korhalfjust type host ip, and it should find it09:22
korhalfchasmarang, and if you cant find that ip, chances are the host is down or has a dynamic ip or something.09:22
pbransfordchasmarang, "ping www.somewhere.com" does a nifty job of giving you their IP address09:22
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korhalfhost does an even better job.09:22
thrice`nobody has a better solution to streaming vid in firefox?09:23
korhalfthrice`, it works for me man, i dont know whats wrong with mplayer09:23
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pbransfordvid + browser = evil09:23
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pbransfordnever should have happened09:23
korhalfits probably cuz you compiled it.09:23
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hardybmI'm using Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger". Yesterday I have removed Arabic, Indic, Korean font pakages (I only need spanish). But now when I try to use apt-get to install other packages I get the message You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these which tries to install the mention packages. How to can avoid this ? I don't need such font pakages09:23
chasmarangk09:23
Rokker_StuMan, doesnt anyone know how to install ur copy of Ubuntu live, while ur running it on your harddrive?!09:23
korhalfim telling you, everything works except for some of those new wmv files, which give me processoutput errors and garbled view.09:23
korhalfRokker_Stu, install the real ubuntu.09:23
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korhalfRokker_Stu, i believe everything you do in Live is done in virtual memory09:24
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paguxHappyFool: I am logged into gnome09:24
HappyFoolpagux: well done. what was wrong?09:24
korhalfhardybm, dependancy issues, you should probably just leave it alone, though you CAN force it, i wouldnt advise it09:24
Rokker_Stukorhalf, ive done like 4 hrs hrs configurating it.... well well, can i install the real ubuntu on my second harddrive or is it automatic to do it on your first harddrive?09:24
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paguxHappyFool: it took half an hour to logg in09:24
HappyFoolpagux: ah09:25
korhalfRokker_Stu, heres what you do09:25
korhalfformat and install ubuntu 5.1009:25
thrice`no, i was using the repos mplayer09:25
thrice`but I can't stand mplayerplug-in09:25
thrice`the reason I was looking for another method09:25
korhalfRokker_Stu, use the other hdd as storage or put windows on it.09:25
hardybmkorhalf: How can I force it ? (Something such as ignore pakges list I hope...)09:25
korhalfhardybm, you can purge im guessing09:25
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Rokker_Stukorhalf, ive got windows on my first harddrive, but i aint got any os on the other, the slave09:26
korhalfhardybm, sudo apt-get --purge remove package09:26
korhalfRokker_Stu, then format the slave, and install ubuntu 5.10 the actual one, not the live version or whatever y9ou're trying to do09:26
chasmarangWe are in process of developing a new website for domain sales and hosting. Please check back.09:26
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darker-ghostwhat is my nick here?09:26
darker-ghostok09:26
korhalflive is for testing and messing around, it isnt a real OS to be installed09:26
HappyFoolpagux: i'm afraid i don't know what the problem is. i can only suggest again the mailing list or ubuntuforums09:26
namei did .sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/qwe. , cant access it says permission denied what to do ?09:26
darker-ghosti have a problem09:26
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darker-ghostwith the root password09:26
Rokker_Stukorhalf, does the installer do that automaticly?09:26
korhalfRokker_Stu, no, you have to know what you're doing09:27
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korhalfRokker_Stu, by default the isntaller tries to erase everything09:27
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korhalfRokker_Stu, if you're master is hda, im guessing your slave is hdb09:27
_jasondarker-ghost, what would that problem be?09:27
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RQhey09:27
darker-ghosti tried edit the file "xorg.conf"09:27
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korhalfRokker_Stu, check what the installer will do before writing any changes, make sure it's installing to /dev/hdb and doesnt try to use /dev/hda as swap or something stupid.09:27
RQanyone dealing with bad view in Dapper?09:27
thrice`darker-ghost: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:27
_jasondarker-ghost, yes? try not to use enter as punctuation, your responses will be hard to follow otherwise09:28
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korhalfif you guys are having display issues, and have an ATI or NVIDIA card, i recommend EasyUbuntu installer09:28
Rokker_Stukorhalf, ill just get a old harddrive and install it on that, or maybe buy a new 250gb for 9009:28
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korhalfit helped me, now i have 3d accel on my ati radeon chip09:28
korhalfRokker_Stu, do whatever you want, as long as you know what changes you're making to the partition tables09:28
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darker-ghost<thrice`> darker-ghost: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:28
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Mazokukorhalf and you can use fullscreen opengl programms without freez?09:28
hardybmkorhalf: dpkg -l package. Shows me pn status (Purge, Not )09:28
{alejandro}uh, I am having a few probs with sound09:29
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ElsanIs there any way to know how much space an installed packge from Synaptic takes. It seems my home folder only takes 27/60 on my hard drvie and I only have 9 GB left...09:29
HappyFool!tell name about windowsdrives09:29
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Kuyaedzsomeone tell me gui editing command comporable to gedit using KDE?09:29
RQkate09:29
Seveaskate09:29
korhalfKuyaedz, knote?09:29
korhalfoh sorry09:29
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RQor kwrite09:29
darker-ghostthis code line give me level administrator?09:29
korhalfRQ, thats what i meant09:29
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_jasonubotflu, tell darker-ghost about sudo09:29
HappyFoolElsan: the installed size is listed in the package properties09:29
vpdhi, i'm trying to send mail from command-line, i've installed mailx to have "mail" command, and it seems that it doesn't send e-mails, do i need some kind of smtp server working on the machine or something different to make it works?09:30
HappyFoolElsan: right click the package and choose 'Properties'09:30
korhalfvpd, i have a feeling mailx is for local mail sending.09:30
ElsanHappyFool: Is there any way to list them by size? I really need to do some cleaning. At least it takes less space than Windows...09:31
vpdis there some tool that work "globally"?09:31
korhalfvpd, i recommend Elmo09:31
HappyFoolElsan: perhaps using dpkg09:31
korhalfit's what i use09:31
{alejandro}I can't get any of the sound drivers to work09:31
vpdthx, i'll check that09:31
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{alejandro}alsa  kind of works09:31
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{alejandro}it gives me a second of sound than stops09:31
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{alejandro}but everything else doesn't work09:31
{alejandro}I have been using XMMS to test09:32
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ElsanHappyFool: Does it install apps in /usr ?09:32
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HappyFoolElsan: apps can have files all over the place09:32
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HappyFoolElsan: though typically stuff will be in /usr09:32
{alejandro}some in the home dir09:32
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HappyFoolElsan: dpkg doesn't appear to listed installed size (odd)09:33
ElsanWhat would be the most accurate to check the total of all my apps?09:33
buliodoes apt-get update && apt-get upgrade update the kernel too?09:33
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HappyFoolElsan: ah-ha -- aptitude can list according to installsize09:34
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jendabulio: yes09:34
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indoI got some lines which I need to be executed every time when Ubtuntu starts, where should I add those lines?09:34
{alejandro}anyone here know how to troublehsoot sound?09:34
korhalfindo, gnomerc?09:34
{alejandro}darrrgh this is frustrating09:34
ElsanHappyFool: what is the exact command please?09:35
korhalfah wait, there is no gnome rc09:35
buliodoes apt-get update && apt-get upgrade update the kernel too?09:35
{alejandro}upgrade changes package sources09:35
HappyFoolElsan: err. trying to figure it out09:35
{alejandro}I think09:35
{alejandro}wait, that's reverse09:35
indokorhalf, yea... i just tried09:35
HappyFoolbulio: i think the latest kernel update requires a dist-upgrade09:35
{alejandro}and you shouldn't do that right off the bat09:36
{alejandro}I tried that and it fucked some things up09:36
korhalfwhat, dist-upgrade?09:36
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to close a frozen window?09:36
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{alejandro}xkill09:36
korhalfElitePete, xkill09:36
korhalfdammit09:36
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Moe|Joehey people09:36
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{alejandro}and I still need help with my sound woes09:36
RQso09:36
ElitePetety09:37
Moe|Joehow do i get ubuntu to load on my IBM Thinkpad 600x09:37
RQhow about my broken view issues?09:37
Moe|Joeafter i log in....nothing happens09:37
RQanyone but me having them on Dapper?09:37
paoloto the next09:37
paolothanks of all09:37
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{alejandro}I stopped using dapper because it fucked up my 3d09:37
korhalfRQ, Dapper is extremely unstable for a reason.09:37
RQMoe|Joe, what time does it display on login prompt?09:37
RQkorhalf, i know ;)09:37
RQi'm not saying "linux sucks" :)09:37
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RQi'm asking for a solution or sth ;)09:38
Moe|Joewhy u need to know the time?09:38
grogoreohi09:38
korhalfRQ, well, you can't expect people herre to support dapper09:38
{alejandro}not until march or so, anyway09:38
RQMoe|Joe, if i remember correctly, there are/were some issues with gnome disliking bad times (befor Unix era, or sth)09:38
ElsanHappyFool: Thanks. Space is becoming critical now. My 60GB ipod(my backup solution) is nearly full and my hard drive is slowly getting full...09:38
RQ(time means DATE and time)09:38
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HappyFoolElsan: standby ..09:39
RQkorhalf, well if we have any dapper users here, why not? ;)09:39
{alejandro}haha09:39
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{alejandro}please guys09:39
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{alejandro}anyone know stuff about sound09:39
{alejandro}because I could use a hand in troubleshooting09:39
korhalfElsan, dude, how much pr0n are you actually downloading?09:39
bulioshould I upgrade warty to it's latest kernel?09:39
Moe|Joewhts a nice commandline text editor?09:39
bulioI'm doing apt-get dist-upgrade09:39
_nullMoe|Joe, vim09:39
_jasonMoe|Joe, vim09:40
{alejandro}upgrade to breezy09:40
thrice`bulio: you should upgrade warty period09:40
korhalf{alejandro}, did you try restarting alsa?09:40
indoI got some lines about networking which I need to be executed every time when Ubtuntu starts, where should I add those lines?09:40
gverig{alejandro}: try to ask a question or describe your problem09:40
bulioBreezy gives me problems09:40
raphaelElsan: check out 'dpigs' from the debian-goodies package09:40
korhalfi wonder if apt-get dist-upgrade will fux0r the system.09:40
{alejandro}ok, well, alsa only works for a second09:40
bulioUpgrading the kernel now09:40
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korhalfi wanna try it, even though im at breezy already, i dont think itll do anything09:40
{alejandro}and then stops making noise09:40
{alejandro}how do I go about fixing this09:40
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Elsankorhalf: I don't have a whole lot :p I don't download any at all. I jsut got ots of games I try out with Cedega09:40
RQMoe|Joe, or nano09:40
lewixhi09:41
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buliook09:41
bulioso I upgraded software09:41
RQMoe|Joe, you'll probably like it more, if you're a newbie09:41
bulioand now kernel09:41
lewixdo you know a way to be able to write in his windows partition ?09:41
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RQkorhalf, why would it?09:41
{alejandro}like if I use xmms with just the alsa driver09:41
{alejandro}i get a second of sound09:41
{alejandro}and it stopp09:41
RQbreezy is stable enough, and dist-upgrades don't break it09:41
{alejandro}stops09:41
RQla Digis09:41
{alejandro}nothing else works09:41
bulioI burned 5 Breezy cds09:42
{alejandro}(oss etc)09:42
Moe|JoeRQ: im kinda a newbie09:42
bulioall debootstrap errors09:42
korhalfwow09:42
RQMoe|Joe, apt-get install nano09:42
bulio5 different isos, 3 different machines, 3 different burners on each machine09:42
gverigAnybody is using Ubuntu with KDE? How is it? Can you remove all the Gnome apps from the KDE menus?09:42
korhalfdidnt you realize it's not working after the second cd?09:42
lewixarf09:42
buliook09:42
RQMoe|Joe, nano is more like "edit" in MS-DOS ;)))09:42
buliokernel is done09:42
DigisRQ hello09:42
Elsanraphael: I'm not sure I understand...09:42
RQunlike vim09:42
bulionow do I reboot or no?09:42
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Moe|Joei need tht ones already installed on ubuntu09:42
korhalfbulio, yes09:42
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korhalfbulio, only time you have to reboot is if you update the kernel i believe09:43
buliok09:43
korhalfno other reason elsewhise09:43
korhalfelsewhise..wtf09:43
ardchoillebiab09:43
RQMoe|Joe, try na<TAB>09:43
raphaelElsan: from the package description: "dpigs - Show which installed packages occupy the most space"09:43
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korhalfgverig, you can use kubuntu..09:43
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HappyFoolElsan: got a solution? i am greatly struggling to figure out aptitude search patterns09:44
gverigkorhalf: Is this like a branch distro or is this just an apt package?09:44
benplaut_jason: well, i figured out how to do it with plain VNC, so i'm happy :)09:44
omoiosi just passed from 5.04 to 5.10 ... i need to fix repositories for synaptic, is the same way with 5.04?09:44
indoHymnToLife, i've done it ;) some 5-6 need to be executed on the ubuntu and xp needs the same dns's as ubuntu's congiurated and it works ;)09:44
_jasonbenplaut, oh I see, are you just using the default menu application in ubuntu?09:44
korhalfgverig, its just ubuntu but with kde as the default WM instead of gnome09:44
indosome 5-6 lines*09:44
{alejandro}omoios, ues09:44
{alejandro}yes09:44
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ElsanHappyFool: I,ll just clean. Don't push yourself too much.09:45
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ElsanHappyFool: If not, I can ask on the forums.09:45
ElsanHappyFool: Thank you!09:45
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vbgunzDoes anyone know how to print to a searchable PDF type file? I am currently trying to print a document to a PDF *but* it is not searchable... Any help is appreciated!09:45
gverigkorhalf: Right, but I can install kubuntu-desktop from my distro. Or is this a branch of ubuntu that I would need to install separately?09:45
HappyFoolElsan: almost there...09:45
thrice`so noone with good streaming experience not using mplayer in firefox (pref. with apple / wmv's)09:45
Quizzeris the firewall enabled in a default ubuntu installation09:45
{alejandro}gverig: do kubuntu-desktop09:45
benplaut_jason: yeah, and a bit of messing with the router09:46
navaronequizzer..yes09:46
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benplautno clue why freenx isn't working09:46
Quizzerok ..09:46
gverig{alejandro}: Will I get all the gnome applications in KDE menus with those weird default icons09:46
Quizzerso how would go about allowing 113 to work ..09:46
_jasonbenplaut, ah ok, cool.  freenx is nice if you need to go over dial-up, it compresses the info better09:46
{alejandro}gverig: unfortunately, yes09:46
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Quizzerfor the ident server or is thier a tutorial in setting up an ident server in ubuntu09:46
{alejandro}but I ain't picky09:46
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{alejandro}so I use xfce09:47
ElitePetehi i am attempting to install opera for ubuntu but i get this error.09:47
benplaut_jason: i'm still working on it, but it just keeps timing out, on three connections i've tried09:47
ElitePeteErrors were encountered while processing:09:47
ElitePete opera09:47
navaronequizzer...install firestarter and it should allow you to configure firewall in gui09:47
ElitePetedpkg: error processing opera (--install):09:47
ElitePete dependency problems - leaving unconfigured09:47
ElsanHappyFool: I'm checking out "dpigs" form the debian-goodies package.09:47
Quizzerok .. firestarter k.. will google that09:47
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{alejandro}gverig: if you have the space, install it anyway09:47
navaronequizzer is in repo09:47
Quizzeroh ok ..09:47
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Quizzeras you can tell i am a newbie when it comes to this09:47
defiance`ElitePete, please, paste those things into pastebin or something, and give us the url instead of spamming it out in the channel. :P09:47
navaronequizzer...use synaptic to search for it...you may have to enable repo it is in if the search shows nada09:48
defiance`ElitePete, quite difficult to really understand what you want help with if the lines are mixed with others talking.09:48
gverig{alejandro}: I am not picky. I just want a light weight easy to use WM. I wanted to try something other then KDE. Tried enlightenment but can't get it set up properly and the forum is not overly helpful. Seems like it is half-dead. Pity, it was a nice WM, promising09:48
defiance`:-)09:48
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ElitePetei want help installing opera09:48
{alejandro}gverig: do you have universe and multiverse installed?09:48
HappyFoolElsan: aptitude search '~i' -O '~installsize' -F '%p %I'|head09:48
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korhalfgverig, use fluxbox09:48
pulverhey! is firewall automatically activated in a normal ubuntu install and how do u turn it off?09:48
gverig{alejandro}: multiverse09:48
Quizzerhow do you search the repo .. i cant find anywhere to type09:48
HappyFoolElsan: aptitude search '~i' -O '~installsize' -F '%p %I'|less     for a complete list09:48
dieselElitePete: what dependencies do you lack?09:48
{alejandro}gverig: install xfce-desktop09:49
ElitePetediesel it doesn't say09:49
mwecan someone confirm if kde-look.org is down?09:49
gverigkorhalf: Maybe I misconfigured it but it was soooo slooooow09:49
ElitePetemy bad. it does.09:49
{alejandro}gverig: and anything that has to do with xfce09:49
gverig{alejandro}: k, I will try09:49
ElitePetePackage xlib6g is not installed.09:49
ElitePete  Package xlibs is not installed09:49
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korhalfgverig, fluxbox...slow!?09:49
ElsanHappyFool: THANK YOU! gonna try it out!09:49
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korhalfgverig, i was running a 64mb ram 300 mhz machine before at home, and it was running fast.09:49
dieselElitePete: sudo apt-get install xlibs, then try09:49
{alejandro}gverig: that compat with gnome and kde and freedesktop09:49
dieselElitePete: installing opera09:49
ElsanHappyFool: It's better than dpigs! Thanks!09:49
SpLaTtis this the support channel?????09:49
gverigkorhalf: As I said, I just installed it from package manager...09:49
{alejandro}gverig: I use it and it is fine09:50
ElsanspLaTt: Yes, it has this use from time to time. ;)09:50
gverigkorhalf: lost sound and it was barely moving09:50
gverig{alejandro}: thanks, I will try it09:50
vbgunzanybody know how to print a search friendly postscript file?09:50
HappyFoolElsan: cool. aptitude looks even more useful than i thought09:50
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korhalffvwm is good09:50
{alejandro}in 199509:50
korhalfi dont know, im happy with gnome09:50
ElitePetegot it thanks diesel,09:51
korhalfand i have such a good machine i dont even care about it being bloated09:51
{alejandro}gnome doesn't work for me09:51
{alejandro}its weird09:51
dieselmwe: yep...down it is09:51
ElitePetedo i need to do anything to make it the default broser for my comptuer diesel, ?09:51
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buliocan I upgrade from warty to hoary?09:51
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mwediesel: thanks. damn.09:51
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{alejandro}yeah09:51
Moe|Joeanyone got a ndiswrapper guide?09:51
{alejandro}then do to breezy09:51
dieselbulio: sure09:51
buliobreezy gave me problems09:52
buliodebootstrap09:52
{alejandro}ah09:52
navaronequizzer...I think edit menu in synaptic...09:52
{alejandro}smeg09:52
bulio5 CDs wasted09:52
korhalfbulio, lol09:52
{alejandro}smeg is your freind09:52
bulio5.04 gave me some too09:52
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dieselbulio: what was the problem09:52
{alejandro}apt-get install smeg for menu editing09:52
bulioI tried apt-get breezy09:52
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korhalfapt-get breezy?09:52
bulioscrewed up x-server09:52
korhalfwow09:52
{alejandro}apt-get dist-upgrade breezy09:52
ptitomanybody to help a newbie installing a built-in sound card ?09:52
bulioapt-get upgrade09:52
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gverig{alejandro}: it seems that it is replaced with "xfce4" package09:52
{alejandro}ah09:52
{alejandro}that's right09:52
{alejandro}same thing09:52
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buliohow can I upgrade to 5.0409:52
CarstenPmy compact flash usb card reader only mounts read-only. how can i change that?09:52
gverig{alejandro}: Or I do not have multiverse :)09:52
buliowhat goes in my conf?09:53
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{alejandro}gverig: that's the right one09:53
dieselbulio: update your sources.list file to point to breezy, then apt-get dist-upgrade09:53
gverig{alejandro}: OK, getting it now.09:53
bulioI don't want breezy09:53
SirGirkorhalf, apt-get install istanbul09:53
bulio5.04 is breezy?09:53
SirGir=)09:53
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{alejandro}no, that's hoary09:53
ElitePete5.04 is hoary09:53
korhalfSirGir, lol09:53
Quizzerok ..i installed firestarter09:53
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Quizzerbut where do i find the icon to run it09:53
{alejandro}upgrade to hoary then breezy09:53
gverig{alejandro}: it better be something nice ;)09:53
korhalfQuizzer, why?09:53
korhalfQuizzer, use iptables09:53
{alejandro}it might be easier09:53
buliowhat goes in conf file?09:53
_jasonQuizzer, system tools09:53
Quizzerto edit my firewall settings09:53
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navaroneQuizzer...system/administration/Synaptic09:54
Quizzergot it09:54
SirKillalothow do I set the text of a textview in gtk?09:54
Quizzerthanks09:54
korhalfthe first thing a n00b does on a linux machine, is try to install a firewall09:54
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korhalfit's secure enough as it is.09:54
navaroneQuizzer...firestarter is in Application/System Tools09:54
{alejandro}gverig: try it out. if it sucks, remove it09:54
korhalfwhat are you guys worried about?09:54
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{alejandro}gverig: it just works for me09:54
purplefeltangelwhat does middle-clicking on a page in firefox do?09:54
korhalfpurplefeltangel, paste?09:55
anticstry it09:55
gverig{alejandro}: :) it was an attempt to make a joke09:55
_jasonpurplefeltangel, depends on the context i believe09:55
navaronekorhalf...firestarter is just frontend to configure iptables09:55
gverigbbiab09:55
anticsit pastes in a textbox, and may open a link in a new tab, depending how you have things configured09:55
_jasonpurplefeltangel, should be simpole enough to find out though :)09:55
korhalfnavarone, is it really?09:55
purplefeltangel_jason: when i do it it loads some random page09:55
sethkpurplefeltangel, makes the machine explode and leaves radioactive waste09:55
bulioI can go from warty to hoary no probs?09:55
{alejandro}heh09:55
purplefeltangel_jason: so i want to know what's making it load that page09:55
navaroneyes korhalf09:55
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jendapurplefeltangel: It can open a link in a new tab or do a paste09:55
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djk_bulio: read your query..09:55
_jasonpurplefeltangel, look at 'middlemouse.contentLoadURL' in about:config... I think it pastes a url and goes to it by default09:56
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jendapurplefeltangel: You're middle-clicking a link and that is prolly opened as a new tab...09:56
VincentMXhi09:56
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purplefeltangeljenda: im not middle clicking a link and its not opening in a new tab09:56
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jendapurplefeltangel: OK, then check about::config09:56
DjLinXanyone know how to fix the slow upload speed of gaim?09:56
purplefeltangel_jason: but i havent copied any URLs; it went to some site with tech support jokes09:56
jendapurplefeltangel: In firefox - type that in the address bar09:56
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SirKillalothow do I set the text of a textview object in GTK with C?09:57
korhalfDjLinX, the problem is, gaim doesn't support UPNP09:57
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korhalfyou're going to get slow speeds no matter what09:57
St-hello09:57
_jasonpurplefeltangel, copy a url and click on the tab, see if it goes to the url you copied09:57
purplefeltangelok09:57
DjLinXkorhalf is there a msn program that i can use that will increase my speeds?09:57
korhalfDjLinX, if you mean msn09:57
korhalfah you do09:57
VincentMXhow do i connect to a samba server in my local network?09:57
purplefeltangel_jason: it doesnt do anything09:57
St-xchat 2.6 has a bug ? menu commands users...09:57
anticsthere's only one colon. about:config09:57
DjLinXkorhalf yes09:57
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korhalfDjLinX, no09:57
buliocan someone give me a link to a sources.config file I can edit?09:57
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_jasonpurplefeltangel, click on the actual tab handle up top09:58
DjLinXkorhalf alright thx09:58
korhalfDjLinX, if you want to send files, itd be easier to start up apache,a nd move the files u want to send to /var/www09:58
korhalfitd go faster for the both of you09:58
DjLinXkorhalf :D alright09:58
purplefeltangel_jason but that wasn't what i was clicking on before. and it also does nothing.09:58
korhalfand you can get them, if they're on windows, to ftp the programs to you or something, so start up proftpd too09:58
anticspurplefeltangel: ot09:58
indoI got some lines about networking which I need to be executed every time when Ubtuntu loads, where should I add those lines?09:58
DjLinXkorhalf i have experiance on apache thru windows09:58
edinoe hello with all. I am beginner and I made several sites and I do not have still to find the solution for my card (is  a creative sound blaster platinium.)... can you help me?09:58
anticspurplefeltangel: it's "about:config"09:58
anticsone colon09:58
korhalfDjLinX, there ya go09:58
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_jasonpurplefeltangel, don;t know then, haven't experienced that09:58
purplefeltangelantics: yeah, i figured that.09:58
purplefeltangelweird09:59
anticsthat does nothing?09:59
DjLinXkorhalf is xampp for linux 2?09:59
theD3viLIs that line okey to use? /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,utf8     0       009:59
purplefeltangelabout:config doesn't do nothing09:59
purplefeltangelthe middle click thing does nothing09:59
anticsthen you're not using firefox09:59
purplefeltangelits no big deal; i was ust curious09:59
korhalfDjLinX, xampp? never heard of it09:59
purplefeltangeluh, yeah i am using firefox. about:config is working; it's the middle click that wasn't09:59
purplefeltangeli'm not an idiot09:59
anticsokay, you just express yourself poorly. noted.09:59
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to add the opera shortcut to the internet folder, i can't find it09:59
kakeiwww.apachefriends.org i think that's xampp09:59
DjLinXkorhalf it sets up apache and acaphes ftp for u10:00
DjLinXkorhalf ya kakei is right10:00
korhalfwell thats no fun10:00
kakeibut is easier sudo apt-get install apache2 sudo apt-get install [what u need]  :)10:00
DjLinXkakei is it for linux?10:00
_jasonpurplefeltangel, change that setting and see if it goes away if you wish, middlemouse.contentLoadURL FALSE10:00
purplefeltangelantics: the guy said "copy a url and click on the tab." i said, "it doesn't do anything." what's expressing myself poorly in that? maybe you just don't know how to read.10:00
kakeiDjLinX10:00
kakeiyes10:00
kakeijust go there10:00
kakeidownload xampp10:00
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anticspurplefeltangel: maybe so10:00
kakeiand read the HowTo10:00
purplefeltangel_jason: nah i dont really care i was just curious why it was doing that10:00
St-xchat 2.6 has a bug ? menu commands users...10:00
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DjLinXkakei i already set it up on windows thats y i was asking about linux :D10:00
navaronebulio http://pastebin.com/46278110:01
kakeiinstall it on linux is easier10:01
doogluspurplefeltangel: you said it didn't no nothing10:01
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kakeibeliave me10:01
edinoeis it possible to configure creative sound blaster platinium?10:01
doogluspurplefeltangel: you didn't say what it did no10:01
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purplefeltangeldooglus, what?10:01
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korhalfwow that helps set up a LAMP pretty quickly10:01
korhalfive been doing it the hard way10:01
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doogluspurplefeltangel: replace 'no' with 'do' in my previous 2 sentences and they might make sense.10:02
dooglus"21:59 < purplefeltangel> about:config doesn't do nothing"10:02
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vbgunzanyone know why I cannot search a postscript file I just printed from off the web... it really sucks if I cannot search the document! Anybody have any ideas how to print a search friendly postscript file?10:02
Quizzerhow do i add a new rule to open 113 in firestarter10:02
purplefeltangeldooglus: oh o_O maybe i typed about:config in the wrong window10:02
theD3viLIs that line okey to use? /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,utf8     0       010:02
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anticsmhmm10:02
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doogluspurplefeltangel: type control-l then type about:config and hit return10:03
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purplefeltangeldooglus: i did that! jesus. about:config is working.10:03
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to set opera as my default browser, and add a link for it in my internet area.10:03
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purplefeltangelapparently the first time i typed it it was in this window by mistake.10:03
doogluspurplefeltangel: so what's the problem?10:04
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gverigHmm... I just installed xfce and I lost sound. What sound server does it use by default and where can I set that?10:04
purplefeltangeldooglus: there was none.10:04
DjLinXargh its in tar10:04
ompaulpurplefeltangel, chill, take a step back and redefine what is actually still an issue, if nothing then brilliant, if there is something tell us :-)10:04
doogluspurplefeltangel: glad to hear it.  next?10:04
korhalfDjLinX, this is why id recommend just installing apache yourself10:04
korhalfDjLinX, sudo apt-get install apache2 proftpd10:04
korhalfdone.10:04
KnowerrorsAnybody know a good video program that will join wmv files and produce an mpeg from them?10:05
korhalfKnowerrors, you can cat wmv files together10:05
DjLinXkorhalf is it easy to kill the services when not needed?10:05
korhalfand i guess you can find a wmv to mpg converter.10:05
korhalfDjLinX, of course :)10:05
jendaKnowerrors: Did you try kino?10:05
korhalf/etc/init.d/service stop10:05
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navaronequizzer try adding this as as policy/rule iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT <-- change the number 22 to reflect port you want open. You can delete this policy if you want to close port again10:05
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Knowerrorsjenda: kino wouldn't open the wmv files10:05
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DjLinXkorhalf kill apache2?10:05
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Knowerrorskorhalf: what is "cat"?10:06
Subhuman!cat10:06
ubotfluSubhuman: Wish i knew10:06
_jason!man cat10:06
ubotflu_jason: Are you on ritalin?10:06
_jasonaww10:06
ompaulDjLinX, you would do >>/etc/init.d/apache2 stop<< killing is so crude10:06
SubhumanKnowerrors, cat is a program10:06
korhalfDjLinX, you can do /etc/init.d/apache2 stop or apache2ctl stop10:06
korhalfas root10:06
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mrkoje!bot snack10:06
ubotfluthanks mrkoje :)10:06
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ompaul!cat10:06
SubhumanKnowerrors, which will output a files contents onto the screen10:06
ompaul!info cat10:06
DjLinXalright10:07
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korhalfwell, you can cat files together like so10:07
Subhumanso cat file will output all of the text in "file"10:07
korhalfcat file1.wmv file2.wmv > newfile.wmv10:07
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theblueHi all.10:07
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korhalfi think appending will work too10:07
korhalfso if you want to add a new wmv to the original10:07
DjLinXkorhalf i want the standalone or inetd?10:07
edinoebye and thank you !!!!10:07
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korhalfcat filenew.wmv >> original.wmv10:07
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KnowerrorsSubhuman: don't see cat in the repositories10:08
ompaul!cat10:08
ubotflucat is, like, totally, concatenate files and print on the standard output10:08
korhalf^^ wow10:08
korhalfthats a bash quote right there.10:08
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to set opera as my default browser, and add a link for it in my internet area.10:08
indolol trappist what a host10:08
Dido-win-clone;] 10:08
theblueCan I change the tty1-6 style in Breezy to how it was in Hoary?10:08
theblueAnd if so, how?10:08
SubhumanKnowerrors, you will have cat, itz part of the core system10:08
korhalfhopefully.10:08
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SubhumanKnowerrors, every linux machine will have cat.10:08
korhalf/bin/cat10:08
Knowerrorsok10:08
jbroomei have cat, and it pees on my counter10:08
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Subhumani eat cat.10:09
Subhuman:P10:09
buliogoing from warty to hoary10:09
bulio<bulio> will it give me trouble like when I tried warty to breey?10:09
ompauljbroome, far too much info10:09
korhalfoh you too Subhuman ?10:09
theblue!vim10:09
ubotflutheblue: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:09
bulio*breezy10:09
theblue!breezy10:09
ubotfluThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:09
theblue!consolemode10:09
ubotflutheblue: Are you smoking crack?10:09
Subhumankorhalf, for sure .10:09
KnowerrorsSubhuman: will cat work for more than two files, like 21 of em?10:09
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Subhumanyes.10:09
korhalfKnowerrors, of course.10:09
korhalfi'd recommend doing a script10:10
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Subhumanit will jus output one after another10:10
DjLinXkorhalf i get and error do u mind if i pm u and paste it?10:10
sethkKnowerrors, that is what cat is for10:10
sethkKnowerrors, cat means concatenate10:10
zdziczekCan someone help my understand why my parallel printer Brother HL-1450 won't work?  I have a broken /dev/lp0 device (blacked out in cli), so is that the problem?10:10
theD3viLwhat i must install for ati drivers? xorg-ati-drivers and anything else ?10:10
sethkKnowerrors, and you have to have more than one thing in order to concatenate10:10
bulioI want a guide to go to 5.04 not 5.110:10
korhalfput them all in a dir like files and do: for x in `cat files` do; cat $x >> newfile.wmv; done10:10
bulio!hoary10:10
ubotfluhmm... hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet10:10
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djk_bulio: can you read?10:11
Knowerrorskorhalf: thx, will try10:11
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korhalfas long as there are no other files but .wmv files in there, that line should work10:12
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buliodjk: he gave me a link for breezy10:12
jendazdziczek: This could help: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-145010:12
djk_bulio: he == ubotu?  read the link!10:12
ompaulbulio, please do this  >> /msg obotflu <keyword>  <<<10:12
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djk_ompaul: if he wasn't such a troll, he'd already have the info...10:13
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korhalflol10:14
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Jaredi can't get WMA audio files from my mp3 to play10:14
Jaredor m4p files to play10:14
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korhalfJared, use mplayer10:14
korhalfmplayer plays everything.10:15
buliook10:15
Jaredwhere do i get it?10:15
bulioI configured sources.list10:15
_jasonubotflu, tell Jared about mplayer10:15
buliodoing apt-get dist-upgrade now10:15
korhalf!tell Jared about mplayer10:15
LjL... ubotflu?10:15
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to set opera as my default browser, and add a link for it in my internet area.10:15
jendabulio: it's "/msg ubotflu"10:15
_jasonLjL, yeah ubotu is sick10:15
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ompaul!ubotflu10:16
ubotfluompaul: I haven't a clue10:16
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_jasonheh poor bot doesn't even know his own name10:16
ompaul!!10:16
ubotflu! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me10:16
benplaut!sick10:16
ubotflubenplaut: I haven't a clue10:16
benplaut!flu10:16
ubotflubenplaut: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:16
cdubyaElitePete, System > Preferred Applications10:16
benplauthe doesn't even know he's sick10:16
LjL_jason: or *her* own name, as he/she presents him/herself as female when talking portuguese :)10:16
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navaroneits the fever10:17
bulioI tried clean install10:17
buliogot debootstrap error10:17
benplautcafuego: why's the bot sick?10:17
pestilenceso do you think it is possible to run hoary's Xorg in breezy?10:17
_jasonLjL, true :)10:17
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Jaredmy synaptic can't find it10:17
buliowill it work with apt-get dist-upgrade?10:17
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ompaulpestilence, it would be best not to10:17
bulioI'm going from warty to hoary10:17
pestilenceompaul, reason?10:18
bulionot warty to breezy10:18
LjLbenplaut: well would you not be if you had to answer some hundreds of basic linux questions every day?10:18
ompaulpestilence, xorg is not x11 and it has moved on10:18
bulioso can I do it?10:18
benplautLjL: not if they gave me...10:18
ompaulbulio, you should be able to10:18
benplaut!botsnack10:18
ubotflu:)10:18
pestilenceompaul, i don't get it, both breezy and hoary use xorg, no?10:18
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ElitePetecdubya, how do i set opera to that, just put /usr/bin/opera in there?10:18
LjL;)10:18
buliook10:18
bulioupdating from warty to hoary10:19
ompaulpestilence, I thought the change was after hoary hey I could be wrong :-)10:19
Nghow does one go about putting a package on hold?10:19
pestilencemy problem is that the xorg that ships with breezy has a bug that doesn't let my crt out on my laptop work10:19
bulioneeds 245 MB additional disk space10:19
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ElitePetewww.google.co10:19
pestilencec.f. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2024010:19
buliohitting yes10:19
darwinhow can i attrib a PID to a one command ?10:19
LjLdarwin: i don't think you can10:19
pestilenceompaul, no, they both use xorg.10:19
hyphenateddark: ps -fp thepid10:19
buliodownloading now10:19
buliowill it update from X11 to Xorg?10:20
zdziczekdarwin, doesnt the OS do that for you?10:20
zdziczekdarwin, unless you hack something10:20
jendabulio - not helpful. and the link tell you all you need10:20
Jaredmy synaptic can't find mplayer10:20
bulioIt is updating now10:20
buliofrom warty to hoary10:20
zdziczekJared, gmplayer with extras10:20
netmonkCan anyone please, tell me what must I write in a script to have it automaticly make Ctrl+Alt+F710:20
djk_jenda: see what i meant now?10:20
bulioI did apt-get dist-upgrade after editing my sources.list to download hoary10:21
bulioso I should be good, right?10:21
korhalfnetmonk, make ctrl+alt+f7?10:21
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pestilencei'm just curious if  anybody knows what kind of dependency hell i will get into if i try downgrading *just* xorg to the hoary version (keeping everything else breezy)10:21
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to get a link to opera in internet?10:21
korhalfJared, you need to add it the marillat repository to your sources.list10:21
buliowhen I tried going from warty to breezy10:21
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bulioI had problems10:21
LjLnetmonk: "chvt" might be what you're looking for10:21
Jareddo you know the repository10:21
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korhalfJared, you can google it.10:21
bulioI'll need to reboot, right?10:21
bulioafter it installs10:21
Jarednever mind.....10:22
jendabulio: Expectable - you should NEVER skip a version...10:22
active-matrixhi now i am in another computer, when i run sudo pppoeconf it shows looking for concetrator on eth1 it shows a red line it fills the line with 100% then it hangs there ?10:22
_jasonJared, the wiki link tells you exactly what to add10:22
buliook, well this will work then10:22
netmonkkorhalf, LjL, before I updated to Breezy my laptop would come from suspend to ram just fine. now I have to pres Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get to gnome desktop10:22
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buliowarty--->Hoary10:22
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bulioin apt-get10:22
cdubyaElitePete, sorry, what is it your asking? how to set your default page to a particular site?10:22
Jaredokay10:22
LjLnetmonk: i see. well i'm sure the command you're asking for is chvt, but i'm not so sure it works very well with an X session10:23
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ompaulpestilence, I would not like to think of what kind of hell it would be I would just move back and use backports of OOo that should keep it all pretty sane I think - unless you have mad requirements10:23
buliodo I need to uninstall portmap?10:23
ElitePetecdubya, i want to make it so all links open in opera, and i want to be able to open opera from a panel?10:23
ElitePeteplease help ;-910:23
NCLife im trying to install sun java to my system..10:23
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NCLifebut it says Make the downloaded file executable. At the command line, change to the directory where you downloaded the file, and type...10:23
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netmonkthank LjL, i'll try to google chvt ;)10:23
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PokerFacePenguinnetmonk: try checking out http://www.jimprice.com/jim-asc.htm10:23
buliodo I need to uninstall or do anyhting?10:23
NCLifehow can i make it executable?10:23
Seveas!tell NCLife about javadebs10:23
bulioor will it be taken care of10:23
pestilenceompaul, i'm just looking for the easiest solution...and i don't consider a complete reinstall to be the easiest at this point.10:23
netmonkthanks PokerFacePenguin10:24
pestilencealthough i am considering that.10:24
ompaulpestilence, I would, but that is just me10:24
LjLnetmonk: just type "man chvt", no need to google it i think ;)10:24
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relativestateheh...  kind of making me scared to go from debian woody -> breezy.10:24
korhalfpestilence, whats the problem with a fresh install10:24
ompaulpestilence, is it anythingmore than a desktop?10:24
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korhalfive learned to keep my home directory on a seperate partition10:24
korhalfbecause i switch systems a lot10:24
netmonkLjL, lol. ok10:24
korhalfi keep all my configs and everything10:24
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bulioso I leave it, and I wont have problems going from warty to hoary?10:25
cdubyaElitePete, set the custom command in System > Preferred Applications > Web Browser to /usr/bin/opera  -  then right-click on your panel, select Add to Panel, then Custom Application Launcher.....in the command text field, type /usr/bin/opera ..... click on no icon and give it one if you want, then close10:25
Seveas!pppo10:25
ubotfluSeveas: Syntax error in line 110:25
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Seveas!pppoe10:25
ubotfluit has been said that pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE10:25
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bulioso I leave it, and I wont have problems going from warty to hoary?10:25
relativestate(that box probably needs a reinstall anyway..  it's almost certainly been rooted by now :/)10:26
Dido-win-cloneSeveas can i create live cd from my current installation?10:26
ompaulbulio, well there is a true thing, as long as you change back the debs10:26
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djk_the pppoe wiki is great...oh yeah, if you don't have pppoeconf and thus can't configure your connection and go online just apt-get it.. interesting logic..10:26
SeveasDido-win-clone, not easily10:26
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pestilencekorhalf, i don't know.  i guess nothing.  it's just a hassle to have to install everything again (the packages i have installed that are not in the default set)10:27
ElitePetety cdubya10:27
ElitePete:-)10:27
korhalflike what though?10:27
korhalfnot everything is needed10:27
korhalfa couple of themes and a few proggies10:27
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Dido-win-cloneSeveas hmm.. could i create just .iso from my current installation easily ;)10:27
markl_is it easy to use a USB bluetooth dongle w/ ubuntu?10:27
vbgunzcdubya: hey, still wish to thank you for ln command... it worked out sweet!10:27
pestilenceompaul, it's my laptop.  i have much more installed than the default installation, but nothing that can't be reinstalled.10:27
cdubyaElitePete, np.....10:28
ompaulkorhalf, any chance you could put all your thoughts on one line, makes it easier to follow and reduces the s2n ratio10:28
cdubyahey vbgunz, np10:28
NCLifeum Seveas,  "open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to" how can i open a terminal and what does cd means? o.O10:28
cdubyavbgunz, still bangin away, huh?10:28
SeveasNCLife, cd is a command10:28
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cafuego!test10:28
ubotfluStop poking me!10:28
vbgunzyeah... now my problem is printing a search friendly postscript file... It seems impossible...10:28
ompaulpestilence, I imagine the pain would be high, think about what you would need to pin ahh its just too much10:28
pestilencekorhalf, you ever heard the expression "one size fits all"?  well that doesn't work in real life ;)10:29
cdubyavbgunz, howso?10:29
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slewhi, how do i get thunderbird to be the client that opens when i click on an email addy? evolution keeps coming up, even though i have thunderbird as the default mail client.10:29
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NCLifeSeveas, ah ok.. and which of those package should i dl? there are 4 sun java packages10:29
ompaulcafuego, have a guinness (quick before Seveas swipes it :-))10:29
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vbgunzcdubya I am trying to print this page: http://www.apcmag.com/apc/v3.nsf/print/AE8FD7D31465A68BCA256EF5001D16CC into a post script. It comes out great *but* it isn't searchable :(10:29
pestilenceompaul, i suppose.  i'm mainly wondering if program settings (e.g. evolution) will be messed up by a downgrade10:29
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Stormx2Hi10:30
cafuegovbgunz: that's what PDF is for.10:30
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justelisdoes ubuntu support ntfs mounting>?10:30
greenpenguin13anyone know how to solve this problem w/ nvidia-glx:10:30
pestilencejustelis, yes.10:30
Pygijustelis: yes10:30
greenpenguin13(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range)10:30
cafuegoJuYes, but read-only.10:30
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vbgunzcafuego: how in the world do I print it to PDF?10:30
ElitePetecdubya i had to move from firefox, i hate it.10:30
justelislive cd also?10:30
greenpenguin13in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:30
Stormx2Is there a .deb of gaim-vv?10:30
Pygipenguin: what's your xorg.conf?10:30
greenpenguin13pages of it10:30
cafuegovbgunz: ps2pdf10:30
vbgunzcafuego: should I try it with Open Office?10:30
Pygipenguin: can you say what it says under "EE" in xorg.0.log?10:31
korhalfthe reason i type multiple lines is because i think of new ideas AFTER i press enter10:31
greenpenguin13sure...10:31
korhalfi cant help it10:31
vbgunzcafuego: thanks! will that make the PDF searchable?10:31
ompaulpestilence, well was there more than a point difference, if not at least hold the old archives (to today) in a different directory as a copy in case of problems you will be able to do grep for foo in it10:31
greenpenguin13default resolution is 1280x102410:31
justelispigy: live cd also support ntfs  mount?10:31
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greenpenguin13looks like 800x600 at the moment10:31
Stormx2Ubotu still gone?10:31
Stormx2I hope he's feeling better for christmas10:32
faiperWhat is a command to configure xorg ?10:32
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cafuegoNo, ubotu is fine. The router between ubotu and irc.freenode.net has been ddosed to death, though :-(10:32
SoulPropagationfaiper: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:32
pestilenceompaul, yea.  i have backups.  it's just a hassle either way.  the ideal thing would be for the bug in Xorg to be resolved.  but i'm not holding my breath.10:32
faiperthanks10:32
greenpenguin13(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0)10:32
justelispygi: live cd also support ntfs  mount?10:32
ompaulsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:32
SoulPropagationanyone know why i can't install the IKXmms2 control for gDesklets?10:32
greenpenguin13this is on dapper btw10:33
vbgunzcafuego: ps2pdf sounds great but synaptic couldn't find it :(10:33
pestilenceis there a "backports" for breezy?10:33
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pestilenceperhaps i could try a new version of xorg.10:33
greenpenguin13yep10:33
ompaulpestilence, I could be a smart alec and say you have the source, but I will not be that cruel I will only think it [DOH]  :-)10:33
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albinorhinohi every one. i'm looking for some one whos willing to help me with an install problem.10:34
cafuego!find pstopdf10:34
trappistvbgunz: gs-common10:34
greenpenguin13sure10:34
ElitePetewow opera, is very nice :-)10:34
ompaulpestilence, is it a huge issue for you?10:34
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NCLifeseveas? :o which of the four packages should i dl?10:34
greenpenguin13whats up?10:34
pestilenceompaul, sure.  if it is hinging on my fixing it it will definitely never get fixed.10:34
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bulio%64 done open office10:34
pestilenceompaul, well, it means i have to reboot into windows when i want to make a presentation.  and i very much like using dual heads.  so it's not mission-critical most of the time, but it would be nice....10:34
albinorhinois there a way to open a private chat?10:34
vbgunztrappist: thanks, I guess I already have it installed :)10:35
greenpenguin13stick it on public10:35
markl_ok i plugged in my USB bluetooth adapter and the kernel sees it (as does the ubuntu device manager).  now what?10:35
markl_which application(s) should i install?10:35
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greenpenguin13(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0)10:36
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greenpenguin13anyone?10:36
ElitePetequick! somone tell me a cool website.10:36
buliodo I need to disable X11 because hoary uses Xorg?10:36
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tkupI'm trying to install mozilla-firefox using synaptic but I get this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/83LMNH78.html10:36
pestilencehaha, there are 2 (two) backports for breezy?10:36
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markl_ElitePete: cannabisnews.com10:36
hyphenatedbulio: X11 is a specification, Xorg is an implementation of that spec10:36
buliodo I need to disable X11 because hoary uses Xorg?10:36
greenpenguin13were when i used breezy10:36
ElitePetethx markl10:36
buliowhoops10:36
ompaulpestilence, well it will not be fixed in breezy unless it is a sec issue as breezy made it to release - however you could track the live CD on dapper but then the questions arrise can you afford to, if not at least try the live cd for dapper and see if it still exists10:36
buliosorry10:36
pestilenceElitePete, http://www.ice.com10:36
zandaadid anyone here set up a mailserver according to Flurdy's tutorial?10:36
albinorhinook, after installing it i wont boot and i get an errormessage like "cant mount device, filesystem unknown"10:36
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HymnToLifeElitePete > www.getalife.com10:36
Dido-win-cloneCould i create .iso from my current installation easily ?;)10:36
mario_sorry for dc10:36
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mario_penguin: you installed openGL?10:37
ElitePeteanyone here use opera and can help me with a small problem10:37
mario_elitepete: shoot out10:37
bulio8 minutes left until its done downloading....10:37
greenpenguin13havent installed anything extra10:37
Jaredwhen i looked for the package in synaptic it said i couldn't get it10:37
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HymnToLifetkup > that's because you ALREADY have FF installed10:37
ElitePetehow do i make it so when i start a download it doesn't stop when i move away from the page? it seems to cancel downloads if i hit back or something10:37
Jaredi added the repository10:37
greenpenguin13worked fine until the kernel today10:37
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mario_green: install OpenGL packages10:37
greenpenguin132.6.15-8-38610:38
greenpenguin13will do10:38
sethkgreenpenguin13, reconfiguring X caused your problem10:38
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tkupHymnToLife, thanks for the ip10:38
tkupHymnToLife, tip10:38
Jaredthis error showed up W: GPG error: http://honk.sigxcpu.org mplayer/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BDCE3370C88CEDF610:39
JaredW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90710:39
JaredW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90710:39
Jaredkrap .....sorry10:39
cafuego!paste10:39
ubotflumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:39
kakeihey guys i have a big trouble i can't navigate i neither ping look kakei@kakei:~$ ping google.com10:39
kakeiping: unknown host google.com10:39
Jaredforgot10:39
greenpenguin13i havent reconfigured x10:39
bulioafter apt-get finishes getting hoary, what do I do?10:39
mario_Jared: NO FLOOD ;)10:39
HymnToLife!tell Jared about pastebin10:39
Jaredsorry forgot10:39
ElitePetemario_ do you know the answer to my question?10:39
mario_!pastebin10:39
ubotfluI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:39
ElitePeteand i'm new to linux can somone tell me what a backport is?10:39
zandaadid anyone here set up a mailserver according to Flurdy's tutorial?10:39
albinorhinodid anyone install ubuntu on the first partition of a second hard drive?10:39
pestilencekakei, do you have an ip address?10:39
mario_ElitePete, just a moment pls10:40
ElitePetek.10:40
kakeipestilence yes10:40
pestilencekakei, can you ping the gateway?10:40
Dido-albinorhino, yeh me10:40
pestilencekakei, can you ping the nameservers?10:40
HymnToLife!backports10:40
ubotfluextra, extra, read all about it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:40
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tkupHymnToLife, if I wanted libjavaplugin installed properly from jre1.5.0_01, should I ln -s jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin...?10:40
oxezWhen I try to apply the CK patch to the 2.6.14.3 kernel I get this: patching file include/linux/sysctl.h10:40
oxezReversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] . Is there anything wrong?10:40
greenpenguin13ive got lots of opengl libs installed: an particular package?10:40
mwealbinorhino: no, but that should be easy10:40
HymnToLifetkup > maybe :/ I don't know :p10:41
kakeii can't ping anywhere : pestilence10:41
Pygipenguin: the core one should be enough10:41
Stormx2Anyone got Gaim-VV working in ubuntu?10:41
bulioweird10:41
buliokeeps jumping from 4 to 8 mins10:41
bulioand so on10:41
pestilencekakei, you tried the gateway and the nameservers?10:41
albinorhinoDIDO- Did u have any problems?10:41
mwealbinorhino: I did it a few years ago with slackware10:41
defiance`Stormx2, if you mean Gaim2 CVS then no..10:41
defiance`Stormx2, bitches about deps which can't be installed through apt.10:41
Dido-albinorhino, none10:41
Stormx2defiance`: Where would I find the gaim2 CVS?10:41
ElitePeteStormx2 what is gaim-vv, opposed to Gaim /10:41
ElitePete* ?10:41
Stormx2defiance`: its not in my repos10:41
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kakeipestilence is a lil bit weird because i have internet on my client PC and i can Navigate how can i try the gateway and the nameservers?10:42
Stormx2defiance`: Not stupid >.<10:42
albinorhinoman i'm stuck here10:42
Stormx2ElitePete: GAIM + Webcam10:42
defiance`Stormx2, it isn't. :P10:42
ElitePeteohh ok.10:42
ElitePetecan anyone tell me what a 'backport' is ?10:42
ptlois there a package for ubuntu (breezy) which includes the kernel debugger?10:42
pestilencekakei, route -n to find your gateway10:42
albinorhinoDIDO- where did u install GRUB?10:42
defiance`Stormx2, anyway, check gaim's website, then go to CVS10:42
Stormx2defiance`: Oh. misread that as "Bitching about debs which can be installed through apt"10:42
defiance`lmao10:42
pestilencekakei, cat /etc/resolv.conf to find your nameservers10:42
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Dido-albinorhino, don't know.. i guess same place as i don't have 1st hdd ;)10:43
kakeipestilence can i pm u to send the output of route -n?10:43
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defiance`Stormx2, if you try and compile with audio/video support, it farks itself. P:10:43
roughtraderi'm having trouble getting apt-get to install mplayer on breezy10:43
defiance`:P10:43
roughtraderit seems to get stuck while downloading10:43
roughtraderany way around this?10:43
PygiPete, I can't reproduce the "error"10:43
pestilencekakei, i suppose....it's better to use pastebin10:43
Pygihave you changed any setting or anything?10:43
pestilence!pastebin10:43
ubotfluI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:43
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ompaulElitePete,  http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212    <<---- read that #10:43
kakeipestilence remember i cant navigate10:43
ElitePetethanks paul10:43
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pestilencekakei, how are you connected here?10:44
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mwewhat the heck happened to ubotu?10:44
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buliook, its done downloading hoary10:44
buliowhat now?10:44
kakeipestilence i neither know hah!10:44
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pestilencekakei, ping 201.243.40.110:44
insomndhi. what does the "validity" field of gpg keys mean? and why does my key say "unknown validity"?10:44
zandaamwe, what do you mean?10:44
tkuppleas help! I have jre1.5.0_01 unpacked in a dir and putting a symbolic link of i386/ns7/libjavapluging_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ but the applet doesn't display10:44
bulioanyone?10:44
mwezandaa: I mean why is he not around, and now this ubotflu is here instead10:44
kakeipestilence is pinging10:44
pestilencekakei, as in, it works?10:44
zandaamwe, he was here just a sec ago10:45
ElitePeteso backporting is making a new program work with an old operating system10:45
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Jaredhow do i unpack tar.bz2 files?10:45
kakeipestilence yes but only seens to work with that IP10:45
pestilencekakei, try 72.14.203.9910:45
tkupJared, tar -jxvf10:45
kakeipestilence is pinging10:45
pestilencekakei, then you have a nameserver problem.10:45
bulioits exytracting10:45
mwezandaa: well he's been on and off lately10:45
insomndJared, or bzip2 -d <file>, then tar -xvf <file>10:45
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pestilencekakei, cat /etc/resolv.conf10:45
kakeihow can i solve it? pestilence10:45
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ompaulbulio, can you (A) give people a chance to answer you (B) put all your thoughts on the one line reduces signal to noise ratio - the answer to your question is if you have run "apt-get dist-upgrade" then reboot10:46
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greenpenguin13could someone tell me whether the server octopus8.net works for them?10:46
pestilencekakei, find out what your nameservers are supposed to be, and put them in /etc/resolv.conf10:46
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kakeipestilence : that file doesnt exist10:46
buliook, thank10:46
pestilencekakei, there's your problem ;)10:46
bulio*thanks10:46
buliosorry, I'm just nervous10:46
ElitePeteWelcome to Octopus8.net!10:46
ElitePeteworks for me.10:46
kakeipestilence i have to make it ? or what10:47
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pestilencekakei, yes.  how do you get your IP?  dhcp?10:47
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bulioI wait until it finishes with the packages, then reboot, right?10:47
kakeipestilence yes10:47
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pestilencekakei, then the dhcp server should have filled in /etc/resolv.conf10:48
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skierkegaardwhat program can i use to rip a cd to mp3 format?  or convert .ogg to .mp3?10:48
pestilenceskierkegaard, i like abcde10:48
skierkegaardis it default, or on synaptic?10:48
greenpenguin13thanks10:48
pestilenceskierkegaard, in synaptic, for sure.  don't think in default set10:49
Stormx2skierkegaard: Sound Jucier10:49
relativestateskierkegaard: sound-juicer10:49
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skierkegaardjuicer goes to ogg10:49
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kakeipestilence but no =(10:49
skierkegaardcan that be changed?10:49
jgrieveshi any developers in here, having trouble with a Makefile10:49
HymnToLifeskierkegaard > juicer stinks10:49
Stormx2skierkegaard: Check the wiki for RestrictedFormats10:49
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relativestateskierkegaard: with a lot of work, yes.10:49
jgrievesI am trying ot set X CFLAGS and X_LIBS in configure.in10:49
skierkegaardok, thanks all10:49
HymnToLifeget abcde instead10:49
Stormx2skierkegaard: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats I think10:49
ompaulbulio, yes, go for a walk or something and come back in 20 minutes, if you have broad band10:50
jgrievesAC_PATH_XTRA is supposed to set both of those10:50
quilonI am automating a package build process and I end up with this error: "changelog-should-mention-nmu" I think it is got to do with the users who edited the changelog and the user who uploaded the package are not the same. I have googled and couldn't find the right answer on how to fix the problem.10:50
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rosenis there some way to upgrade the portlist in firestarter so that it will recognize all ports being used ? .. I dont like those connections that I have no idea what is about ;)10:50
jgrievesbut it only sets X_CLIBS10:50
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jgrievesbut it only sets X_LIBS10:50
tkupRe: please help! I have jre1.5.0_01 unpacked in a dir and putting a symbolic link of i386/ns7/libjavapluging_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ but the applet doesn't display10:50
greenpenguin13all core opengl libs installed10:50
greenpenguin13no change10:50
buliohow long does the unpacking take?10:51
Pygipenguin: restarted x?10:51
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greenpenguin13yep10:51
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alvinhi10:52
alvincan i ask a question?10:52
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greenpenguin13sure10:52
ElitePetehow do i make it so when i start a download it doesn't stop when i move away from the page? it seems to cancel downloads if i hit back or something10:52
ElitePeteopera that is.10:52
ompaulbulio, you will see - differs machine to machine I can't remember, just sit back and enjoy it, we don't really need a commentary :-) back up your home directory if you want something to do10:52
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greenpenguin13USE FIREFOX10:52
alvini'm a newbie in this newos10:52
greenpenguin13:-p10:52
ElitePetefirefox sucks.10:52
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alvinOs i mean10:52
greenpenguin13someone wants to start a flame war10:53
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ompaul!start a browser war10:53
ubotfluw3m is way better than  firefox !10:53
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alvini like to ask if ubuntu can be used as server10:53
greenpenguin13:D10:53
ompaulgreenpenguin13, ElitePete stop it - the bot is right10:53
greenpenguin13yea10:53
puppsterhi guys, i seem to have a serious problem... i screwed up my hosts file and now i can't "sudo" to change it and apparently my password is not the root password so recovery mode won't let me in10:53
alvinlike dns , ftp or web server10:53
occybawhahaha10:53
occyok10:53
greenpenguin13eyah10:53
occyI just installed web dev plugin for firefox10:53
ompaulalvin, not only can it be but it is10:53
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greenpenguin13install w/ synaptic10:53
occyand music died10:54
occyI've been working without it for 2 weeks now10:54
alvinin if this ubuntu is same as linux 9.010:54
buliough, its taking awhile10:54
greenpenguin13:p10:54
occyand no crash of tunes10:54
pestilencepuppster, recovery mode doesn't require a password does it?10:54
greenpenguin13ive got web dev installed10:54
occythe second I install it back... it dies10:54
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nassopuppster, the sudo password is the users own password10:54
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occygreenpenguin13, you play mp3's?10:54
greenpenguin13yeah10:54
alvini mean if all command in linux 9.0 cab\n be used in ubuntu10:54
occygreenpenguin13, with what?10:54
ompaulalvin, linux 9.0 means nothing10:54
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tkupDid anyone get my question. I've asked it twice so far :/10:54
greenpenguin13rhythmbox not fussy10:54
greenpenguin13linux 9.0??10:55
ElitePeteanyone here use opera and can answer a question?10:55
alvinso it mean that you can install named in ubuntu10:55
puppsterpestilence, it seems to ask me to give root password for maintenance, or press ctrl+d to continue10:55
nassorecovery mode doesnt require password for logging in? :P10:55
ompaulalvin, some other frame of reference that could be mandrake suse slackware or any other distro10:55
occygreenpenguin13, I'm using RB myself... :/10:55
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puppsterpestilence, and it won't take my user's password10:55
alvinand the configuration is same10:55
occy*sigh*10:55
puppsterpestilence, i guess maybe i have never set up a root pwd becuase i always just used sudo10:55
pestilencepuppster, interesting.10:55
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greenpenguin13tkup: use automatix (on ubuntuforums)10:55
my-stylespeak everyone german10:55
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ElitePeteanyone here use opera and can answer a question?10:55
bulioyes?10:55
pestilencepuppster, the real "root password" is a un-guessable random password10:55
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puppsterbut now i can't use sudo because when i try, e.g., sudo vim /etc/hosts, it tells me,, sudo: unable to lookup Foo by gethostbyname()10:56
puppster:(10:56
gnomefreakElitePete,  go ahead and ask some of us have or do use opera10:56
ompaulElitePete, you asked that less than a minute ago, you should wait 20 minutes before asking again10:56
greenpenguin13then why can i get root acces by appending single in grub?10:56
ElitePetewhy should i wait 20 minutes?10:56
bulioI own't lost things when I upgrade to hoar, will I?10:56
pestilencepuppster, do as greenpenguin13 says10:56
Pygi!traffic10:56
ubotfluPygi: Are you on ritalin?10:56
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puppsterok trying10:56
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greenpenguin13ive been a hoar :-p10:56
Pygihehe ;)10:56
buliolol10:56
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ElitePeteanyway, my problem is when i start a download and navigate away from the page i got it from, the download stops, i want it to continue like it would in firefox.10:57
ompaulElitePete, because this is irc and that is the way things are done I will get you a url that explains it a bit better10:57
ompaul!tell ElitePete about ask10:57
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greenpenguin13what did i tell him to do anyway?10:57
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pestilenceElitePete, seems like you should be going to #opera10:57
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ElitePetepestilence no one is in #opera10:57
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enoswhats the 'normal' way to switch between tvout and dualscreen? i have both working but have to reboot with tvout cord unplugged to get back to dualscreen :(10:57
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pestilenceElitePete, guess you're out of luck then ;)10:57
greenpenguin13see? noone  uses opera10:57
ElitePeteand i think waiting 20 minutes to ask a question in a chat room is not very neccessary.10:58
SaveMeJEBUShey everyone do you know if you can get drivers for a dell 1300 Wireless card?10:58
zdennisgreenpenguin13, i dont use opera10:58
pestilenceSaveMeJEBUS, there is a list someplace.10:58
Pygipenguin: some people DO use Opera, believe it or not....so don't start flaming10:58
MickMcMackElitePete, does it look like people are paid to answer your questions?10:58
jdongSaveMeJEBUS: is that the broadcom based one or the agere/orinoco?10:58
greenpenguin13lol10:58
Pygi!flame10:58
ubotfluPygi: I haven't a clue10:58
Pygihehe, again ;)10:58
greenpenguin13ive got internet explorer on linux that must be a crime :p10:58
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jdonggreenpenguin13: EULA violator :)10:59
SaveMeJEBUSso does someone know where the list of compatible drivers for a dell 1300 wireless lan card?10:59
ElitePetei didn't say anyone was payed to answer my questions i asked if anyone could help me out.10:59
zdennisi am getting nasty samba issues. If I have a share mounted from another machine, and say that machiens goes down for whatever reason. I cannot unmount the share10:59
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ElitePeteno need to be so anal.10:59
pestilenceSaveMeJEBUS, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List10:59
zdennisI get "device is busy"10:59
ClayGwhere can i get a dictionary file from?10:59
buliohow long does package upgrading take in hoary?10:59
PygiI didn't even knew IE can be on Linux, or that there is Linux version :/10:59
zdennisanyone have these issues before?10:59
bulioI gotta leave in 10 minutes10:59
greenpenguin13am i?10:59
bulioits been running for 1510:59
pestilenceClayG, try aspell?10:59
sethkzdennis, yes, if you can't talk to the machine where the files live, you can't umount10:59
JormundgandWas there some problem with security.ubuntu.com earlier?10:59
ClayGdo they have them in like one text file with all the words?10:59
sethkzdennis, but this isn't really a problem10:59
pestilenceClayG, oh. sorry.  not a dictionary.  doh!10:59
ClayGouch10:59
ClayGI need one textfile, a dictionary file10:59
greenpenguin13#firefox is quiet11:00
greenpenguin13!flame11:00
ubotflugreenpenguin13: I haven't a clue11:00
zdennissethk, it is because the machine is back up and i want to remount the share, but i can't do that either11:00
sethkClayG, look at ispell and aspell11:00
ompaulElitePete, read the message from ubotflu it will explain it to you why you should wait11:00
ClayGok11:00
sethkzdennis, that I haven't seen.  I can remount when things come back up.11:00
greenpenguin13ugh i always get confused on irc :-p11:00
NgClayG: wbritish/wamerican contain wordfiles11:00
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greenpenguin13 /make sense11:00
greenpenguin13 /simplify11:01
zandaadoes anyone know if I can setup Wine on a 64-bit Ubuntu?11:01
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relativestatemake: *** No rule to make target `sense'.  Stop.11:01
SaveMeJEBUShey for the dell wireless card's drivers, how do I go about adding a new network connection in ubuntu?11:01
Nggreenpenguin13: did you ask a question?11:01
bimberizandaa: only in a 32bit chroot (afaik)11:01
bimberi!chroot11:01
ubotfluhmm... chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457511:01
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greenpenguin13yes11:01
tkupgreenpenguin13, automatix doesn't work on hoary11:02
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greenpenguin13can u get an old version?11:02
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pestilence!ndiswrapper11:02
ubotfluit has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper11:02
greenpenguin13brb11:02
enosa way to switch between tvout and dualscreen anyone?11:02
PpPpHi Seveas -- you don't sleep11:02
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ompaulSaveMeJEBUS, that link about ndiswrapper is for you11:02
SeveasPpPp, sleep? What's that?11:02
zandaabimberi, is there no other way??? (for 32-bit firefox there's the Linux32 package)11:02
tkupgreenpenguin13, there is no version for hoary11:03
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ompaulPpPp, he does it is just for a microsecond every millennium, and that is for repairs11:03
tkupRe: please help! I have jre1.5.0_01 unpacked in a dir and putting a symbolic link of i386/ns7/libjavapluging_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ but the applet doesn't display11:04
Seveastkup, automatix doesn't work at all11:04
ompaulPpPp, but we don't talk about that11:04
Seveasit's a piece of <censored>11:04
puppsterhow do you tell grub to boot in single?  i tried adding "single" and "1" and neither seems right11:04
Ngpuppster: did you add it to the line that starts "kernel"?11:04
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ompaulpuppster, it should have "recovery" as an option that is single11:04
tkupSeveas, I'm desperate and had to give it a try...11:04
dr_willisat the end of the kernel= option line i put in 'single'11:04
bimberizandaa: someone might have tried compiling it - but there's no ubuntu package11:04
Seveasdr_willis, bad line11:04
ClayGNg very good, this is exactly what I was after11:04
zandaabimberi, so how would I got about it with the chroot thing?11:05
zdennissethk, what happens is that my "/mnt/share_dir" directory doesn't seem to respond. Tab completion doesn't work and I can't cd to the directory, and when I try to remount it, after 30 seconds of hanging it says "could not resolve mount piont /mnt/share_dir"11:05
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NgClayG: there are also -large packages if you want a *huge* list ;)11:05
cremateompaul,  need tro set classpath11:05
ClayGI do11:05
NgClayG: I use wbritish-large when I'm really really stuck on a crossword ;)11:05
ClayGYou know about the free .be domain names?11:05
zdennissethk, although an 'ls' shows me that the directory exists11:05
dr_williskernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single11:05
puppsterok i booted using the recovery mode which has kernel=... single in the command line, but now it says again Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue)11:05
Seveasthat is a good line11:05
sethkzdennis, if you see the file list with ls, then it is obviously mounted11:05
ClayGI'm going to issue a command to locate words in it that end in be , so i can think of good domain names11:05
ompaulcremate, you talkin to me (said in  my best al pacino accent)11:05
bimberizandaa: set up the chroot (links above) then install it within the chroot env.11:05
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pestilencepuppster, what happens if you hit "enter"?11:05
sethkzdennis, so we have to look elsewhere for the problem, not only at mount11:05
puppsterit tells me login incorrect11:06
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zandaaso bimberi, chroot is a 32-bit emulator thne?11:06
tkuphow did all get libjavaplugin_oji.so plugin work with firefox on Linux?11:06
Ngpuppster: did you set a root password?11:06
puppstersimilarly for my user password11:06
zdennissethk...but when i run "mount" it thiks that "/mnt/share_dir" is mounted to my remote host's share11:06
puppsteri sure don't think i woudl have11:06
cmatheson_tkup: you need to symlink it11:06
Seveastkup, by installing java from a .deb package11:06
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Seveasno need to symlink at all11:06
cmatheson_Ng: sudo passwd11:06
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Ngcmatheson_: ?11:06
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puppsteroh -- one of my other passwords works11:07
tkupSeveas, what's the name of the package or is it installable via apt-get?11:07
puppsteryey!11:07
puppstersorry for being so stupid :)11:07
gnomefreak!javadebs11:07
Ngpuppster: guess that's your root password then ;)11:07
ubotflujavadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"11:07
tkupcmatheson_, tried all permutations of symlink that I can think of11:07
ClayGNg do you have any experience setting up a domain at home? Like in other words if I bought clayg.com and I want that to resolve to my house, but also to the point where i can get on irc and it will be from clayg.com?11:07
Ngthose giannaros.org debs are out of date11:07
Seveastkup, sun_j2re_something11:07
Seveastkup, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:07
Ngas I said they would be, despite whoever it is that owns that site insisting he'd keep them up to date ;(11:07
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zdennissethk, I think that is why that it is hanging, because it thinks its mounted...and it tries to resolve the mountpoint,but it can't because it's not really mounted11:08
clustyhey11:08
NgClayG: yeah, you want a static IP or a small block of IPs, otherwise it's too painful to bother imo11:08
cmatheson_tkup it should be something like 'ln -sf /path/to/java/jre/plugin/liboji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins' ... but it's easier to just use 'java-package' and install java the right way(tm)11:08
clustyi need some help installing ubuntu on some damn machines11:08
clustythey wont boot off a CDROM (some bug)11:08
ClayGI have a static, and I followed the howtoforge guide to setup an ISP with ubuntu11:08
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ClayGbut it looks like you need nameservrs that resolve to your IP11:08
NgClayG: the key is the reverse IP, that's what appears as your hostname in things like IRC11:08
SaveMeJEBUSwhere can I pick up: ndiswrapper-utils11:08
sethkzdennis, I thought you said that ls works11:08
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bimberizandaa: not really an "emulator" - but i'm struggling to find the right term for it.11:08
clustywhat would be easiest method? take HDD out and install on some machine or I can use some tftp?11:09
ClayG c-66-177-234-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net?11:09
Dido-win-cloneCould i create .iso from my current installation easily ?;)11:09
ClayGthat one?11:09
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NgClayG: yes, if you want appear on IRC as @clayg.com you need to have your ISP change the reverse lookup for your IP11:09
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zdennissethk, it does if i ls the parent direction (/mnt)11:09
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dr_willisDido-win-clone,  Mondo/Mindi is a backup program taht can make a bootable set of recovery cd/images11:09
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sethkzdennis, oh, that's meaningless11:09
ClayGSomeone told me to call comcast and tell them to point their nameservers to my ip11:09
ClayGthey had no idea what i was tlaking about11:09
sethkzdennis, it times out on a umount?11:10
ClayGNg any idea how to approach this11:10
ClayG?11:10
sethkzdennis, after the other machine is up and the share is available again?11:10
SeveasClayG, no provider I know of does such rdns changing11:10
Dido-win-clonedr_willis 10x11:10
bimberizandaa: "environment" perhaps :)11:10
Dido-win-clone!google mondo/mindi11:10
ubotfluDido-win-clone: Are you on ritalin?11:10
Dido-win-cloneubotflu should have that tcl11:10
ubotfluDido-win-clone: I give up, what is it?11:10
NgSeveas: decent ones do :)11:10
tkupSeveas, "java package is already the newest version"11:10
SeveasNg, comcast -ne decent :p11:10
zdennissethk, on umount it says "device is busy"11:10
ClayGthere is no way to rig it?11:10
iustinDoes anyone have any idea about how can i merge 2 ext3 partitions?11:10
zdennissethk, even after the remote machine is up11:10
ClayGlike point my domain name to comcast's DNS serves11:11
ClayG?11:11
zdennissethk, it times out if i try to remound the share to the same mountpoint.11:11
sethkzdennis, is it possible that a process has a file open in the share?11:11
zdennissethk, good thinking, i didn't look at that11:11
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ClayGmaybe point them to  NS1.c-66-177-234-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net11:11
yurioi11:11
ClayGlol11:11
Seveastkup, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (jre) or http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (sdk)11:11
NgClayG: you can register clayg.com and have it or foo.clayg.com point to your IP, but the only way to get the IP to resolve back to that is on their DNS servers11:11
zandaabimberi, the wiki is kinda confusing me... you ever done this before?11:11
ClayGyeah11:11
yurihi everybody11:11
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iustinDoes anyone have any idea about how can i merge 2 ext3 partitions?11:11
SeveasClayG, can you please take this horribly off-topic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic11:12
yurii don't know use the ubuntu11:12
jvaicomcast sukz.. but it's the fastest thing we got on the east coast...11:12
ClayGNo I'm through, thanks for allowing it as long as you did.11:12
SaveMeJEBUShey does ndiswrapper-utils come in Ubuntu live?11:12
bimberizandaa: no sorry11:12
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zandaacan anyone help me setup a chroot?11:12
cmatheson_zandaa: i'm no expert... but generally it's just 'chroot /path'11:13
SeveasSaveMeJEBUS, no11:13
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Ngcmatheson_: that's how you enter a chroot, not set one up11:13
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Ngzandaa: which part is confusing you? (and which page are you looking at?)11:13
zandaacmatheson, I ment setting up a 32-bit chroot on 64-bit system11:13
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TokenBadI have ubuntu install and I installed my printer..it detected the printer and used the driver...11:13
iustinI need a little hint for merging two   ext3  partions , please !11:14
TokenBadbut when I try to print it just sits there11:14
zandaaNg, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot < the part after editing /etc/dchroot.conf11:14
Dido-;] 11:14
TokenBadhas new color and black carts in it11:14
cafuegoA far easier thing is to just use a 32bit system.11:14
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TokenBadany one know what could be the problem?11:14
cafuegoit appears to be faster as well.11:14
cmatheson_iustin: does gparted do the trick?11:14
iustinno11:14
iustinit doesn`t11:14
SaveMeJEBUSso i need to install the full edition in order to get access to ndiswrapper?11:14
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zandaacafuego, the 32-bit version of Ubuntu doesn't wanna install on my computer <_<11:14
heliocofhelp! xdmcp      no          no        no            Using: none! How do?11:14
Seveascafuego, didn't you give ubotflu a flu shot?11:14
cafuegozandaa: Why noy?11:15
Ngzandaa: so the part where you actually run debootstrap?11:15
zdennissethk, lol... my problem keeps compounding... "sudo fuser -km /mnt/share_dir"  -> "/mnt/share_dir: Input/output error"11:15
zandaacafuego, I don't knoiw11:15
cafuegoSeveas: ubotus datacenter is being ddos'd11:15
zandaaNg, yeh11:15
Seveasheliocof, whoah - don't drown us with info......11:15
Seveascafuego, :|11:15
heliocofLTSP 4.1 Ubuntu 5.10. help! xdmcp      no          no        no            Using: none! How do?11:15
erUSULiustin, try with gparted (umounted partitions use a livecd) but messing with partitions is risky business backup first11:15
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cafuegoSeveas: I cna get at him, but he can't reach any non-australian site.11:15
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sethkzandaa, once it gets this messed up it won't fix.  but you still need to find the root cause11:15
iustinerUSUL, i know but i am out of space !11:15
zandaasethk, hm?11:15
Ngzandaa:  sudo debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/11:15
Ngzandaa: assuming you want it in /var/chroot11:16
Seveascafuego, secret attempt to kill off .au?11:16
zdennissethk, you the man! after running fuser i was able to umount it, thx11:16
sethkzandaa, sorry, wrong z11:16
erUSULiustin, move the home to the new partition11:16
sethkzdennis, good.11:16
cafuegoSeveas: Wouldn't surprise me.11:16
iustinerUSUL, i will try with a live cd with gparrted11:16
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zandaaNg, it's in /var/chroot11:16
iustinok11:16
iustinhow?11:16
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zandaaNg, so that's it??? (I've got AMD64 cpu, and 64-bit breezy)11:16
greenpenguin13athlon 64 drool...11:16
Ngzandaa: well obviously you need to continue with the instructions after that11:17
iustinerUSUL, i have a 5 Giga partition and it is full with applications that i need it11:17
cafuegozandaa: 32bit breezy should work just fine (does here)11:17
zandaaNg, so the sudo cp etc?11:17
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zandaacafuego, for some reason it says everytime it can't find my HDD11:17
Ngzandaa: yes, that is replicating important system files into the 32bit version of the system11:17
zandaaNg, ok thanks11:17
JemtGreetings. Has Mplayer been removed from repositories ?11:17
Dido-win-clonedr_willis mondo or mindi should use for ubuntu11:17
Jemt!tell Jemt about Mplayer11:17
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greenpenguin13athlon 64X2 alienware pc...11:17
dr_willisDido-win-clone,  huh?11:18
u|qosis someone familiar with traffic shaping`?11:18
erUSULiustin, if you have a new ext3 partition move all files of home to it then add a line to fstab to mount the new part in /home at boot time11:18
iustinerUSUL, if i change home to new partition ... application will still install into my 5 giga partition11:18
erUSULiustin, yes11:18
Seveasu|qos, wondershaper is a decent simple solution11:18
Rage__Why is xv not working with fglrx? Do i have to install some other libs?11:18
SeveasRage__, fglrx kills xv only after hibernate11:18
coldanyone knows the package name for the documents for libc functions?11:18
erUSULiustin, but i was under the impresion that the bigger files where in home11:18
Seveascold, manpages-dev11:18
TokenBadanyone?11:18
Rage__Seveas: I haven't used hibernate.11:19
Dido-win-clonedr_willis Debian users - click to download Mondo and Mindi... and mindi-kernel if your kernel blows... that's what i'm asking, which to select11:19
iustinerUSUL, no ... i don`t have big files in home11:19
u|qos@Seveas, wondershaper? do u know tc?11:19
NgTokenBad: have you tried a test page in the printer admin?11:19
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TokenBadyes11:19
Seveasu|qos, that's what wondershaper uses :)11:19
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erUSULiustin, ops11:19
iustinerUSUL, and neither partion magic don`t merge ext2/311:19
NgTokenBad: ...and? ;)11:19
TokenBadjust sits11:19
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coldhey guys, during my installation I forgot to add a swap partition,is there someway I can configure ubuntu to use space from the partition its installed on?11:20
Rage__u|qos: I have some scripts if you want them?11:20
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u|qosRage__: yes that would be great11:20
NgTokenBad: is it usb or parallel?11:20
erUSULiustin, then try gparted with all the warnings. i do not make any warranty11:20
dr_willisDido-win-clone,  no clue.  ive only used the midi-kernel.11:20
TokenBadusb11:20
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u|qos@Seveas, so ... how to start? is it there an package?11:21
Rage__u|qos: http://wrathnet.homeip.net/~rage/projects/server/11:21
iustinerUSUL, gparted won`t merge my partiotions because one is mounted !!!11:21
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dr_willisiustin,  live cd's are handy to do that task.11:21
cmatheson_iustin: maybe you should boot off of a livecd or something11:21
Polandso someone confirm this, there is no way to make the mac airport extreme card work with ubuntu?11:22
erUSULiustin, i told you to do it from a livecd (knoppix comes with qparted)11:22
iustini will try damn small linux!!11:22
Rage__u|qos: My scripts use tc, you will have to install that.11:22
Rage__u|qos: My scripts use tc, you will have to install that.11:22
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erUSULiustin, backup important data11:22
iustinok... in pursuit!11:22
Rage__sry11:22
TokenBadNg, its weird...11:22
iustinerUSUL, thanks!11:22
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zandaaNg, I copied the vital files, and run the chroot command, now I should be able to install 32-bit packages right?11:23
NgTokenBad: I was about to start checking my configs, but the two USB printers are in my old flat, sorry ;)11:23
Ngzandaa: yup11:23
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zandaaNg, :D11:24
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Seveasu|qos, yes, called wondershaper :)11:24
u|qosRage__: thx for the scripts ... is there an package availible?11:24
Rage__u|qos: What for?11:24
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Rage__u|qos: tc? - yes.11:25
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cafuegoSeveas: Wanna know a nice php bug?11:25
Seveascafuego, do I :)11:25
Polandhello?11:25
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Rage__u|qos: call iptables-firewall at the end of /etc//init.d/bootmisc11:25
u|qosRage__: as @Seveas said Wondershaper?11:25
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cafuegoSeveas: When PHP's error log is 2GB in size, the session handler stops working if it can't log.11:25
Seveascafuego, icky11:26
zandaaNg, what about setting up the locales thing??? there're like 3 options for the dutch language11:26
Polandcould someone help me?11:26
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rambo3ask germany11:26
Rage__u|qos: You have no control using wondershaper, with those scripts you should be able to sedit them for your needs.11:26
Ngzandaa: tbh that won't really matter too much - if there's one that says utf-8 pick that one11:26
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Rage__u|qos: NOTE: eth1 is internal eth0 is internet.11:27
mwegermany for dutch? I thought that was the netherlands :)11:27
zandaaNg, ok set it up correctly:)11:27
derrick81787he was talking to poland i think11:27
zandaamwe, dutch = netherlands11:27
r2whatever happened to the cdrdao frontend GCDMASTER ?11:27
cafuegozandaa: You'll want nl-NL utf8@euro11:27
u|qosmy pc only has one network card.11:27
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cafuegoVoor meer info, probeer #ubuntu-nl11:27
u|qosRage__: my pc only has one network card.11:28
active-matrixhi i use pppoeconf for internet connection when i run sudo pppoeconf it shows a red linje findin eth1 concetrator then it fills up to 100% then nothing more it hangs there ?11:28
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zandaacafuego, I set it up :)11:28
Rage__you should be able to fiddle it.11:28
Rage__u|qos: It may well still work but give you errors.11:28
redvelvetdoes anyone here know how to get wireless to work on a netgear card?11:28
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cafuego!ndiswrapper11:28
ubotflusomebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper11:28
r2linuxloader11:28
zandaaNg, there's something wrong with the repositories in the chroot11:28
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Ngzandaa: how so?11:29
TokenBadNg, I don't know whats going on with it11:30
zandaaNg, the AMD64 thing is coming up each time11:30
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Ngzandaa: sorry, what amd64 thing?11:30
u|qosRage__: how does wondershaper work?11:30
zandaaNg, I'll put on pastebin11:30
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active-matrixhi i use pppoeconf for internet connection when i run sudo pppoeconf it shows a red linje findin eth1 concetrator then it fills up to 100% then nothing more it hangs there ?11:31
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jemt!tell Jemt about w32codecs11:31
Rage__u|qos: I think it is like my scripts.11:31
zandaahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5718 < ng11:31
LadyNikonhey11:31
LadyNikoni am trying to install a package.. but its the older version not the newest one11:31
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mwejemt: /msg the bot to keep it out of the room11:31
LadyNikonwell my co worker is11:31
Rage__u|qos: there are several ques of diff priorities, if there is something in a higer prio que it is sent first.11:31
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Ngzandaa: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file in the chroot and comment out the cdrom line11:32
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LadyNikoni know that in gentoo you have to update your portage.. do you have to do anything similar to that with ubuntu?11:32
mweLadyNikon: apt-get update11:32
mweLadyNikon: or use on of the front ends11:32
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LadyNikonmwe: we downloaded the package we want11:33
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LadyNikoncan you tell apt get to install that package?11:33
LadyNikons/we/you11:33
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mweLadyNikon: yeah. sudo dpkg -i fobar.deb11:33
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soldieruk400hi all11:33
u|qosRage__: but how does it prevent other applications from sending? how does it control them? i only want to understand to principle. understand how to use it ...11:33
zandaaLadyNikon, could you tell me what exactly you did?11:33
mmolinaholsasssssssss11:34
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hunt0rhi all11:34
Rage__u|qos: It is a kernel level configuration, all data is sent via the kernel for the network, it always is.11:34
Rage__u|qos:11:34
Rage__u|qos: It does it on a per packet basis.11:34
hunt0rwith wich kernal parameter can I disable pcmcia?11:34
zandaaNg, what text editor can I use in CHROOT mode?11:34
hunt0r*kernel11:34
TokenBadanyone else have any idea what is going on with my printer?11:35
sethkhunt0r, you mean during kernel compile, or a boot time option?11:35
mmolinahello11:35
Ngzandaa: you can edit the file from outside the chroot, sudo nano /var/chroot/etc/apt/sources.list11:35
hunt0rsethk: boot time11:35
zandaaNg, ah <_< I'm so totally clueless when it comes to linux11:35
Ngzandaa: then just do an apt-get update inside the chroot11:35
u|qosRage__: so wondershaper is just a kernel configurator?11:35
doogluszandaa: or you can install an editor inside the chroot11:35
Rage__u|qos: yes.11:35
Ngzandaa: hey no probs, a chroot is a fantastically confusing thing to have :)11:35
Dido-win-cloneAnyone could recommend me some nice firewall?11:35
zandaadooglus, I tried installing gedit, but it can't load11:35
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doogluszandaa: gedit has a lot of dependancies.  try something easier like nvi perhaps?11:36
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pnoobNow I'm Pnoob11:36
zandaadooglus, k will try11:36
paulproteus|lapt!ndiswrapper11:37
ubotfluit has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper11:37
u|qosRage__: hmm great ... :) it there somewhere the easiest example u could imagine?11:37
pnoobanyone out there run GEDA or PCB tools on UBUNTU?11:37
Rage__u|qos: looking....11:37
sethkhunt0r, I don't know of one.  There may be for modprobe, if pcmcia is a module11:37
zandaadooglus, how do I close nvi?11:37
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Rage__u|qos: http://news-reader.org/article.php?group=alt.comp.linux.isp&post_nr=483611:37
doogluszandaa: :q!11:38
hedonickpnoob: geda is in the universe repos11:38
hunt0rsethk: well the problem is I can not boot into my system becouse it crashes when it is trying to load pcmcia11:38
Rage__u|qos: think thats what i worked off...11:38
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rounehey, i tried 2 install blackbox with something like apt-get blackbox, and now i wonder how to switch to blackbox from the gnome thing ^^11:38
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sethkhunt0r, rebuild the kernel with pcmcia disabled11:38
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Rage__u|qos: My shaper script is about as simple as it gets, look at that.11:38
dooglusroune: it should be in a menu on the gdm login screen11:38
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u|qosRage__: thx .. i will take a look :)11:39
dooglusif "ls -l" shows   a -> b   , that's a soft link, right?11:39
Rage__u|qos: CEIL=240 is 75% of your upstream.11:39
rounegdm login screen...? :D11:39
mwedooglus: yeah11:39
mwedooglus: alias symlink11:39
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zandaaroune, press ctrl+alt+backspace to return there11:39
kameronhow can i mask my ip? i've never done that before.11:39
dooglusis it a link "from a to b" or "from b to a"?11:39
mwedooglus: a is the link. b is the actual file11:40
sethkln [-s]  filename linkname11:40
dooglusmwe: but what is the link a link *to*?11:40
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rouneaha okay, tanks you :D11:40
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mwedooglus: a is a link to b11:40
zandaaNg, <_< once I install wine in the chroot thing it can't run11:40
jvaii found two ORINOCO silver wifi cards on ebay.. for $50.bucks... & the drivers r in the linux kernel from jump.. the cards even work in feather linux.. which has the 2.4 kernel11:41
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dooglusmwe: that's what I thought.  but apparently we're both wrong... http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1910811:41
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cyphasewhich language has the "do nothing" statement?11:41
jvaii gave up w/ ndiswrapper11:41
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cyphasei can't remember :)11:41
dooglusmwe: I reported a bug in ubuntu, where they get that backwards, but I'm told I'm wrong.11:41
olipaulhi all. there's a couple of things stopping me from using ubuntu at the moment, and i'm wondering if there's any fixes so i can go back to it11:41
u|qosthere was a console based bandwidth screen, but i forgot the name ... can somebody help me?11:41
zandaacyphase, I believe it's Visual Basic, not really sure though11:42
cyphasehmm, i've never coded Visual Basic..11:42
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zdenniscyphase, heh11:42
bekirLIST11:42
zandaacyphase, ok11:42
cyphasei don't think that's it..11:42
cyphaseoh well11:42
fushi:\11:42
mwedooglus: um. I'd say that bug has the symantics wrong.11:42
lancer285hey guys, how much hard drive space does GRUB or Lilo need to install? I'm having problems getting the ubuntu installation to work on a friends compture11:42
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kentolipaul, what was the problem?11:43
zandaalancer285, I believe GRUB doesn't need that many space11:43
Pygigrub and lilo take minimal space11:43
dooglusmwe: do you mean it really is a bug, or that the bug report is wrong?11:43
jvai<--  unbuntu install on a 11G hd11:43
dr_willislancer285,  you mean space for the Master boot record? or the actal binaries/confgs?  less then a mb or 2 is my guess.11:43
lancer285I keep getting error messages when its installing11:43
jvaiw/ 8.3 free space11:43
korhalfDjLinX, yo u there?11:43
erUSULlancer285, lilo 512 bytes (boot sector) grub 512 bytes plus du -h /boot/grub11:43
jvaiubuntu's luly11:44
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lancer285dr_willis, for the mbr. I allocated 100mb, at hda1 but its not installing. It drops out and says there's an error11:44
olipaulwell,  1 - my ipod doesn't unmount, nor usb pens - i just get a popup telling me there's an error. 2 - when i shutdown, it doesn't poweroff, just sits there saying "power down" after the init process is finished11:44
lancer285so apparently its not a space issue11:44
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dr_willislancer285,  the 'mbr' is just a few k at the start of the drive.. perhaps even 1 k.. its not mich..11:44
kentolipaul, have you filed a bugreport about it?11:44
pnoobhedonick, I know, I love that schnazz.11:44
mwedooglus: it's confusing. initrd.img -> initrd.img-xya is the right link though11:45
zandaacan't get Wine to work in my chroot, how do I define what program to start??? (can it be on NTFS drive?)11:45
erUSULlancer285, 100 mb for root? or for /boot?11:45
olipaulkent, yeah, was encouraged to try dapper - which i dont really want to do11:45
dr_williszandaa,  'wine /path/to/whatever.exe'11:45
lancer285erUSUL, for /boot11:45
dooglusmwe: the link we're talking about is a link in / that points into /boot/11:45
zandaadr_willis, can that be on my NTFS drive?? (mounted as /dev/sda1)11:45
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erUSULlancer285, i have 67 MB for boot here no problems whatsover11:46
kentolipaul, oh, sounds like its not fixed then. If they ask you to install Dapper then its probably fixed there - and will take to much effort (just guessing though) to backport to ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy).  So if you dont want to try dapper - which i understand, i guess you will have to wait for Dapper..11:46
dr_williszandaa,  Could be.. but that dricve is mounted read only and wine normally makes a 'fake' windows partition in your home dir. Best to reinstall the app with wine to your home.11:46
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lancer285erUSUL, okay. So it's not a size problem. I'm gonna do some checking and see what's up.11:46
kentolipaul, to check if a bug is fixed  - browse the buzille.  The bugs will be marked as fixed when they are..  i think11:47
zandaadr_willis, so I gotta install the software on my linux partition???11:47
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dr_williszandaa,  if you want them to work properly - yes.. its adviseable.11:47
olipaulso how does everyone else cope with unmounting their ipods? i cant be the only one with an ipod? :)11:47
mwedooglus: well I don't have those files. I'd expect /boot/initrd.img -> /boot/initrd.img-xyz and /initrd.img > /boot/initrd.img from what I read11:47
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zandaadr_willis, this whole wine thing is too confusing for me... thanks though11:48
dooglusmwe: comment #1 claims that "/initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686" is a link from /boot/initrd to /initrd.  comment #3 claims something similar.  I think they've both got it backwards, but I don't know how to convince them.  I quoted the man page of "ln" in comment #2 but that didn't work.  Any ideas how to get through to them?11:48
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rouneu just gotta ask, when you start a program from the term, say xchat, and then close the term, xchat will also close. how do i prevent that? :D11:48
erUSULmwe, what would those links be for?11:48
rounei*11:48
rosendooglus !11:49
kentolipaul, I dont have one so I dont know. There are diffrent versions of the Ipod (generations.) which probably behaves a bit diffrent. You can try to google about it. It should not be a problem. (If you know your way in the terminal you should be able to force an umount..)11:49
dooglusrosen !11:49
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kameronroune: run it in the background11:49
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dooglusrosen: any luck with skype taking over the sound card?11:49
mrkojeroune,  you need to set it into the background11:49
rounewith & command?11:49
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mrkojectrl z11:49
rounei ment11:49
kameronroune: you got it11:49
mrkojeroune,  I think?11:49
kentroune, i would try that yes..11:49
rosendooglus, nah not yet ... I just told my friends to stop calling me :P11:49
mweerUSUL: I don't know about /initrd.img, but the other on I would expect is for not having to change menu.lst after an upgrade11:49
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rouneokay tanks :D i will try it :D11:49
u|qoshow do i SEARCH packages via console not via adept...11:49
mrkojeroune,  ctrl z11:49
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kentu|qos, apt-cache search11:50
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dooglusmrkoje: control-z will stop it.  you then need to use "bg" to start it running in the background.11:50
rounethe & think worked, thank you :D11:50
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u|qoskent: thx :) are there useful parameters?11:50
dooglusmrkoje: it's easier to use "&" really11:50
rosendooglus, I was pondering something else though .. tommorow a friend of mine will come by with a program one of his mates made that should make it possible for a linuxbox to distribute traffic evenly on two gateways ... but there should allready be programs like that outthere right ?11:50
mwedooglus: I don't know. I'd say /boot/initrd.img pointing to /boot/initrd-xyz should be sufficient11:50
dooglusrosen: I don't know11:50
mrkojedooglus, thanks...11:50
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kentu|qos, yes. But you should read about them in the manual (man apt-cache)11:51
mwedooglus: which ever one you call the link11:51
dooglusmwe: I think that grub's menu.lst expects to find links in the / directory.11:51
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rosendooglus, I found something you dont know ! muaha ... well I'll make sure to upload it somewhere if t works what he have then11:51
rouneum..11:52
kameronhas anyone recieved breezy badger cds in the mail yet? i ordered a few weeks ago. i know it'll take longer, just wondering if anyone has got theirs?11:52
mwedooglus: from man ln. " Create  a  link  to  the  specified  TARGET  with  optional  LINK_NAME."11:52
dooglusrosen: I don't know everything :)  I don't even claim to!11:52
rounewell, it doesnt seem it works Oo11:52
rounei will look at it again Oo11:52
lancer285does /boot need to be a certain file system type? Ubuntu default was ext311:52
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kameronlancer285: i don't think it matters11:52
dooglusmwe: yes.  I pasted pretty much exactly that in comment 2 of that bug.  but it wasn't enough to get through to Ben11:52
cremateext 3 is good11:52
lancer285kameron, hhmmm, any ideas on why the bootloader install is failing??11:53
rosendooglus, well for a moment I though you were an oracle-bot or something ... !dooglus kind of thing11:53
rouneshould it be like gimp&11:53
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mwedooglus: that means a -> b makes a the link as ln -s b a makes the link a -> b. confusing, yes but so it is11:53
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kameronlancer285: i'm not really sure. i always had bootloader problems with ubuntu, so i installed Lilo from a different distro, and it works great. i just didn't feel like figuring it out.11:53
dooglusroune: "nohup gimp 2>&1 > /dev/null &" is better - then it will keep running after the terminal closes, and will throw its output away11:53
initcan someone help me take ownership of my external hard drive? "you are not the owner, you cannot change permissions"11:53
lancer285kameron, what cpu do you have?11:53
erUSULlancer285, well grub only supports 'ls /boot/grub/*stage1_511:54
erUSUL'11:54
dr_willisinit,  whatys its filesystem?11:54
kamerondooglus: yes, it's backwards. it is a bit confusing, but the people at unix like it that way. be sure to make symbolic links with the -s option, or else you can mess things up.11:54
dooglusmwe: right.  and "a->b" is a link TO b, right?11:54
kentinit, you want me to take ownership of your drive? Sure, send it to me! :)11:54
rounelol,  how the ## can u know thos sercret commands :D11:54
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initdr_willis, hfs+11:54
mwedooglus: right, according to the man page11:54
lancer285erUSUL, what does that mean??11:54
kameronlancer285: AMD64 3200+ Venice overclocked11:54
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dr_willisinit, HFS? its a mac drive?11:54
doogluskameron: I was looking for opinions as to a bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1910811:54
doogluskameron: who's right?11:54
mwedooglus: but the command to make it is ln -s b a :)11:54
initdr_willis, was....11:54
dooglusmwe: yes, I know :)11:55
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dr_willisinit,  you going to refdisk the drive and make it ext3?11:55
dooglusmwe: ln's arguments are in the same order as cp's.  you put the thing that exists first, and the thing you're creating 2nd11:55
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erUSULlancer285, run the command and see. there are support for vfat, reiser, xfs, ext2,...11:55
kamerondooglus: ill check it out11:55
lancer285erUSUL, okay thanks,.11:55
initdr_willis, they told me before i installed ubuntu that linux could r/w to hfs filesystems11:55
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initdr_willis, i would rather leave it the way it is so i can still use it on the mac11:56
mwedooglus: right11:56
dr_willisinit,  time to check the mount man pages. and see what fstab poptions you may need to use.11:56
jcolehow can i install ubuntu via floppy? i have an old laptop that has no cdrom drive in it... i did an "apt-get source debian-installer" on another machine and trying to figure out how to build a floppy image, lol... can someone please point me to a doc?11:56
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fluvvellI hardly ever use ftp, but have to now.  I installed proftp, but having trouble making it go.  /etc/init.d/proftp reports that it must be started from inetd or xinetd.  Have made the appropriate file in xinet.d but its not going yet, what now?11:56
kamerondooglus: i'm not sure, i'm not on my ubuntu box right now, i'll check it out later11:56
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dr_willisinit,  ive never done anything with a hfs drive :P11:56
doogluskameron: the dispute is over whether "a -> b" is a link to 'a' or to 'b'11:56
erUSULinit, the default ubuntu kernel does not suppot it afaik but you can compile a custom kernel11:57
kameroninit, i have hfs experience11:57
Rage__OK! glx dri, all good, what is wrong with xv?11:57
initdr_willis, ok, can you tell me an easy to use ftp server that has a gui front end?11:57
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initkameron, nice, is it possible?11:57
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kamerondooglus: ln a b would make b a link to a, it is backwards11:57
kamerondooglus: but i don't know what it is in the man page.11:57
kameroninit: yes, quite.11:57
kameroninit: or wait. is what possible?11:57
theD3viLwhat happend if i run apt-get remove supertux* ?11:57
skismdanis it possible for me to download music o11:57
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doogluskameron: and "ls -l" would show it as "b -> a"11:58
initkameron, it mounted the drive. i just can't read/write.11:58
kamerondooglus: correct, but i'm going from memory11:58
initkameron, getting this hfs drive to r/w in ubuntu11:58
kameroninit: oh. fstab, it's alway fstab!11:58
mwekameron: link from to seems logical to me11:58
pnoobHi, I'm trying to build up some sources, fontconfig for one, and when I ./configure I get cpp fails sanity check.  HELP!11:58
dr_willisinit,  i cant think of any 'ftp' servers that have a gui front end that comes with them.. there may be somne extra front ends for the various servers.. (or try webmin) I dont even use ftp servers any more.. ssh is the answer! :P11:58
doogluskameron: the man page says: ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME]  : Create a link to the specified TARGET with optional LINK_NAME.11:58
mwekameron: then ls -l showing the link as link to also makes sense to me11:59
kameroninit: i thought you mean installing to an hfs or sometihng, that's nuts. but on my yellowdog installation i can mount hfs no problem, just some fstab config. shouldn't be much different in ubuntu. you're running ubuntu ppc right?11:59
zdennisis there any way to clean up swap space?11:59
kamerondooglus: it appears the man is incorrect.11:59
dieseljcole: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge/talkback/111358784311:59
doogluszdennis: "wipe" will wipe it, I think11:59
doogluskameron: really?11:59
erUSULpnoob, why are you compiling from sources just apt-get it11:59
chrisx1how do i fix this ,with out rebooting eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument11:59
kamerondooglus: i think so. ah, let me read over it again. this is one of the most baffling parts of unix though.12:00

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