[12:00] gn8 [12:00] but /etc/fstab is insecure [12:00] can someone helo me? [12:00] can someone helo me? === ruspu [n=henri@a80-186-193-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:00] use -o credentials to specify a file with username/password combos [12:00] im trying to install Gyach and i get this error http://pastebin.com/461563 [12:00] i have to put password= [12:00] when installing Ubuntu, what is the "factory set" Root password? [12:00] jspsh: use -o credentials=/some/file [12:00] i know that answer [12:00] so, should i put POP in evolution setup assistant Superbob? [12:00] lol [12:00] Pianomany2k: random. use sudo. [12:00] Pianomany2k, you mean the live cd? or the installed version? [12:01] Pianomany2k, there is none [12:01] installed version [12:01] no root in ubuntu [12:01] Pianomany2k, congratulations you just asked FAQ #1 :P [12:01] Ubuntu is better then sex [12:01] How do i fix this Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key [12:01] lol === zoqaeski [n=zoqaeski@203-166-250-28.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] having a root user is a liability ;) [12:01] sinclair, yes with ssl enabled, gmail actually have a very good page telling you how to set up in the settings section of the web interface === xxxx [n=ubuntu@cpc4-galw1-5-0-cust206.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] yep and life is better than mounting/unmounting drives in Linux [12:01] northie, heh - dont start up that old argument again. :P [12:02] i've just stuffed up big time [12:02] Dr_Willis: I'm also trying to figure out how to get my Rockwell modem to work. Autodetect in "Network Configurations" doesn't seem to find it [12:02] sorry, Doc. sorry. [12:02] myke that's telling you that it is already installed ? === zoqaeski bangs head agains wall [12:02] siriusnova: u know what 'ejacultio praecox' means, don't you ??? [12:02] Someone make the virgins stop talking ... ;-) [12:02] How do i start openssh [12:02] rally [12:02] really [12:02] lol caf... hey now... i resemble that remark === qt2 [n=qt2@pool-68-238-50-83.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] Ubuntu is awesome because the developers seem to have a relatively sane sense of gui design, compared to Mandrake, SUSE, and Others... [12:02] tOta, you didnt get any further [12:02] Pianomany2k, i aint had a modem in any pc in years. :P check the Ubuntu WIkis and forums - would be my first stop to get info on it. === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has joined #ubuntu === nitestarr [n=knightst@cpe-24-33-15-250.midsouth.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] how can i get ubuntu to boot faster ? it seems to take a very long time on the "configuring network cards" part of the boot process [12:02] intelikey wow i feel stupid [12:02] chris... ssh user@host [12:02] for ubuntu installl [12:02] erase entire disk: IDE1 master (hda) -8.6GB [12:03] or [12:03] Erase entire disk and use LVM: IDE1 master (hda) -8.6GB [12:03] trappist> for the credentials file [12:03] err, is devfs enabled by default in the ubuntu kernel? [12:03] which one? [12:03] woohoo i answered a question... im neat lol [12:03] myke eeek no my bad. [12:03] anyone here use freenx? [12:03] techrush, your dhcp server isent reponding then it seems.. [12:03] anyone? [12:03] how do i undo accidentally renaming /var as /var2 ? [12:03] <_jason> chrisx1, it should start when you boot [12:03] trappist> i just put username=user\npassword=pass right? [12:03] I'm having a bit of trouble with it [12:03] qt2: nope, udev is, although devfs may be compiled in [12:03] um, okay.. ill put POP as answer on evolution and will later set it up at gmail.. i hope i understood well :p [12:03] bulio|lap: Don't use LVM unless you 1) know what it is and 2) actually need it. [12:03] k [12:03] myke it is an install error. sorry i misread part of it. [12:03] Dr_Willis is there anyway i can set it so that it doesnt check for that on boot ? [12:03] _jason i get this Cld not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key [12:03] *could [12:03] nop bob im think im goona quit [12:04] My freenx server is up and all, and I can connect to it from the same machine I'm running it on, howerver I cannot connect to it from other computers such as my windows laptop or my mac os x 10.3.9... [12:04] this is becoming stupid and annoying [12:04] can somebody help me? [12:04] Ng, heh, i'm trying to get oss2jack working, which requires fusd. [12:04] intelikey i ran the prog "gyach" in a term and i poped up [12:04] ok i got it to play mp3's [12:04] tOta, lol ah well i tried [12:04] Ng, i've had really bad experinces with custom compiling kernels though. [12:04] now what about .avi;s [12:04] techrush, you connected to the network normally? you could always set up a staiic ip. Ive noticed the delay with my laptop when i am not-networked. but never worried about it. [12:04] intelikey seeing if i cna log in [12:04] <_jason> chrisx1, you get that when? when you try to connect? [12:04] when i try start it _jason [12:04] qt2: I'd be really surprised if whatever those things are require devfs [12:04] intelikey it is working [12:04] at start _jason it fails === Firetech [n=Jocke@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] Dr_Willis its on a laptop thats only connected through wireless that is setup with a script after boot [12:05] Ng, FUSD is a Linux Framework for User-Space Devices [12:05] myke k good. the error was probably because it would not overwrite a file. [12:05] I got ubuntu on, but it is saying that it failed to start the X server, and if I would like to see the server output to diagnose the problem. Will I click yes or no? [12:05] Ng, and lists devfs as a prereq. [12:05] devfs is deprecated, don't depend on it. ever, [12:05] jamie thx again [12:05] <_jason> chrisx1, well has to do with the ssh keys, I don't use those. I just have it using regular passwords. So I don't know too much about your problem [12:05] intelikey thanks for the help anyway [12:05] np [12:05] qt2: well then it must be pretty rubbish because devfs is being removed from the kernel ;) [12:05] techrush could be the delay is the wireless network slowness.. check the wiki/forums perhaps. I i dont use wireless any more. [12:05] i can disable ssh keys? === vmartin [n=vmartin@ip220.176.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] ok thank you sir [12:06] qt2: I see it hasn't been updated since 2003 :/ [12:06] tOta, no problem unkown [12:06] <_jason> chrisx1, it's more secure if you don't but yeah in /etc/ssh/ssh_config [12:06] Anyone here run k3b for cd burning? [12:06] vmartin, yes [12:06] bob :D could you send me a email with commands [12:06] I've accidentally re-named/moved /var to /var2 whilst trying to sort out some partition problems; now everything's stuffed up cos of this mistakes and I can't undo it.... any ideas how to fix my blunder? [12:06] Ng, i'm basically trying to find a way to let xmms pipe stuff through jack and into skype. [12:06] vmartin many [12:06] sudo dpkg -i filename.deb gives an error (for the java package [12:06] or in private just a fast type so i could save them and try later === m2o3 [n=bernard@ip-80-236-196-21.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] Ng, basically virtual audio patch cables. [12:07] Hey everyone! I just installed a default version of Breezy. Is there a way modify some sort of config file or something in order to make the OS NOT automatically load gnome but rather just boot to a prompt or should I have done a server install instead? [12:07] Superbob: I am having a weird problem. When I copy data cd's with disc to disc it works great. But when I copy audio cd to audio cd it goes insanely slow. Taking up to hours. Any idea's? [12:07] intelikey but i just saw something in the term [12:07] ? === rarrr [n=chris@213-228-241-254.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] I'm getting dependency errors with libxml-libxml-perl ... can anyone tell me what could cause this and how I can correct it ? [12:07] Base system insytallation error [12:07] the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) [12:07] tOta, i'll see you back here again, or in #fedora [12:07] during install === ptolo [n=senko@83-131-64-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu === marfis|mobile [n=marfis@i3ED6E2BE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] what is wrong? [12:08] earldude1: just make it start to runlevel 3 instaed of 5 (e.g. by boot parameters) === eno [n=eno@HSE-Toronto-ppp303285.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === ssk8err is now known as surfdue [12:08] Ng, happen to know of an alternative way? [12:08] qt2: 'fraid not [12:08] udo dpkg -i filename.deb gives an error , when trying to install a java package, can anyone help? [12:08] vmartin, do you copy on the fly/ [12:08] stef65: how do I do that? or, where can I read about runlevels and how to change them [12:08] Superbob: if memory serves me correctly I tried both ways. [12:08] I got Ubuntu on, but Im working from a command line. Anyway to access the GUI? Or is there anyway to set it to reboot to back to Windows from the Command line? [12:08] kde sure sucks it back eh [12:08] ok === shutdownrunner is now known as Nowy_pseudonim === cvt [n=cvt@pcp08899240pcs.hcksrd01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] H0gan, could just type 'startx' [12:09] earldude1, ubuntu boots to runlevel 2 by default, and runlevels 2-5 are essentially identical. You can disable gdm by removing /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm === Phoul [n=death@S0106004005b748fa.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] earldude1: complex question... 'google and read' is my suggestion [12:09] H0gan, or are you saying the "gdm" service/X is not configured right? [12:09] Whats a good python editer for ubuntu? [12:09] no idea what could cause dependency errors with libxml-libxml-perl ? ... I dont know how to go about correcting this === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] I think kde was written in qbasic. I am doing sudo ap-get remove workspace-kubuntu === Nowy_pseudonim is now known as Husio [12:10] is there another app for changing the resolution other than gnome-display-properties? [12:10] but what SHOULD I be doing? [12:10] can someone help me with this java package please === Art_ [n=Art@netblock-72-25-121-95.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] Can anyone tell me a good python editer? [12:10] is there a way to set RW permissions on mounted samba shares? [12:10] nickRud: what does GDM stand for?, and, is S13gdm simply a config file or something? [12:10] Dr_Willis, I goT FATAL IO ERROR 10 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 remaining. [12:11] GDM : Gnome Desktop Manager === skon [n=skon@24-151-131-165.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] earldude1, gdm is the Gnome Display Manager, the screen you log in on. [12:11] oh duh === triple5 [n=Daniel@p54A7FFB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] rosen trying to install "libxml-libxml-perl" ? [12:11] cool. and then so what is s13gdm? [12:11] <_jason> Phoul, boa construcor or vim [12:11] woops yes, display* === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has left #ubuntu [] [12:11] ToR911: what's the error? [12:11] <_jason> Phoul, constructor* [12:11] intelikey, nah I was just trying to update Ubuntu actually, but I got the errormessage a few times before [12:11] earldude1, the way ubuntu boots is, it loads the kernel, runs the scripts linked in /etc/rcS.d/, then runs the scripts linked in /etc/rc2.d === niden [n=niden@c-643ce055.146-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === Husio is now known as Gustaw === Gustaw is now known as Gustaw_Holoubek === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Success"] === rarrr [n=chris@213-228-241-254.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:12] kde runs like my dreamcast is trying to emulate a ps2... how do I remove it exactly? [12:12] intelikey, I dont even know what libxml-libxml-perl is ;) [12:12] dpkb-deb(sub-process): short read in buffer copy (.... [12:12] ok so s13gdm is simply a script then [12:12] earldude1, all the scripts themselves are in /etc/init.d [12:12] vmartin, do you have swap space enabed? [12:12] What's the Make command on Ubuntu ?? [12:12] ... ok, just found out that the runlevel conf in ubuntu is kinda SICK! [12:12] earldude1: Indeed. To disable gdm, edit /etc/X11/default-display-maneger [12:12] Superbob: within k3b? [12:12] earldude1, so, by changing links in rc2.d, you can control what's started. [12:12] ToR911: eww, i'd guess that's a bad download [12:13] What do I type to reboot? [12:13] vmartin, no as linux paritition === ekdoreus [n=a@ppp77.dial-up.uoc.gr] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] although, apparently there's a better way now :) [12:13] if you want to talk about bad downloads, don't get me started about kde. [12:13] rosen a perl librarry for libxml inc. make sure you follow the steps on the wiki to upgrade. [12:13] oh MAN! I want to remove it so bad === mitey [n=ubuntu@ip24-255-220-238.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] thank you everyone! [12:13] !upgrade to breezy [12:13] Syntax error in line 1, intelikey [12:13] intelikey, allright I'll try that ... I didnt think I could upgrade libxml actually ;) [12:13] Superbob: yep [12:14] !upgrade [12:14] The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade [12:14] k , ty === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] hey, what do I type in command line to reboot? I tried 'reboot' but it informed me that im not a super user [12:14] shutdown -r now [12:14] H0gan [12:14] sudo shutdown -r now [12:14] is there a way to have a cdrom spin speed slowed for playing cds - it's far too noisy at 40x!! [12:15] eno: removing libqt3-mt will remove KDE plus a lot of KDE apps === kahraman [n=kahraman@AMarseille-152-1-68-122.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === ptolo is now known as ptlo [12:15] vmartin, normally works fine with me at 52x i could only think its writing to disk then cd [12:15] cafuego, is default-display-manager appearing in dapper; it's not present on this breezy install [12:15] I hate kde... thanks. I will get right on that, Bimberi === kahraman [n=kahraman@AMarseille-152-1-68-122.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Quitte"] [12:15] chaumurky: Rip the songs to ogg or mp3, play them without any CD noise. [12:15] rather a complicated way? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@dD5E0794B.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] nickrud: it's on breezy too. === Gustaw_Holoubek is now known as shutdownrunner [12:16] I like lossless anyway [12:16] hello everyone [12:16] so I take that as a no then? [12:16] chaumurky: Rip tp flac. [12:16] rem_ i'd have said 'ctrl+alt+del' [12:17] Nobody in here running a laptop or Mini ITX with this &%$&-embedded VIA graphix? the xserver just won't start after the install routine, and there's so much contradicting info on the web that i just don't know where to turn next... (except maybe installing gentoo.. :-)) [12:17] chaumurky: Of course, you cannot distringuish between high bitrate ogg or mp3 and lossless, irrespective of whether you think you can. [12:17] oh yeah! I am blowing KDE away! [12:17] ripping's not really a solution anyway. I don't want to do that. === marfis|mobile [n=marfis@i3ED6E2BE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] I just want to slow down the spindle speed to 1x === sintax [n=sintax@66.240.74.194] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] what about an hdparm -E1 or something? [12:18] chaumurky: maybeyou could hack the source or something? === xim [n=xim@132.208.20.8] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] stef65 > if you want to install gentoo, good luck :p [12:18] chaumurky: An *audio* cd always plays at 1X anyway. [12:18] I suppose I can only rty [12:18] *try [12:18] well, the data does but not the spindle speed === djteenbot [n=djteenbo@host-69-145-181-134.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] Hey guys [12:18] it has to be the geekiest distro ever, a true nightmare === topyli [n=juha@dsl-hkigw3-fe23de00-139.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [12:19] dr-xr-xr-x 100 root root 0 2005-12-13 00:48 /proc === sintax is now known as iHeartKem_ [12:19] what does root root mean in here [12:19] Quote: 'Ubuntu is an ancient african word for. I'm sick of compiling gentoo :-)' [12:19] How do I get the windows media codecs for mplayer in ubuntu ? [12:19] active-matrix: Means that proc is owned by user root and group root. [12:19] active-matrix > owner and group === paulproteus|lapt [n=paulprot@zog.acm.jhu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] active-matrix: owner is root and the group is root [12:19] HymnToLife: I hear ya - all the time saved in an efficient build is lost in the build process!! [12:19] well i do sudo to to edit proc it gets me error you dont have permisions === shutdownrunner is now known as Ciekawe_jak_dlug [12:20] iHeartKem > sudo apt-get install w32codecs [12:20] Hey yall question about this : was wondering about when i download something off of the net..... if it the information i download will dissappear when i shut down my computer?> === Ciekawe_jak_dlug [n=shutdown@nazgul2.kosson.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:20] thanks HymnToLife [12:20] iHeartKem_: totem is supposed to work, but I find it doesn't always [12:20] active-matrix: You cannot edit files in /proc, they're not real files. [12:20] active-matrix > because even root cannot write to it [12:20] active-matrix: why are you editing /proc, it's a directory === myke [n=myke@213.31.44.66] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] Hey yall question about this : was wondering about when i download something off of the net..... if it the information i download will dissappear when i shut down my computer?> [12:20] i want to change the windows scale [12:20] E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate [12:20] active-matrix: You can sometimes echo data INTO those files, but don't do that if you don't know why you're doing it or what the effect will be. [12:20] intelikey it keeps crashing [12:20] djteenbot: no [12:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell iHeartKem about w32codecs [12:21] yes i want to use echo [12:21] what do ya mean? [12:21] !tell iHeartKem about plf [12:21] Superbob: im trying clonecd method. it seems to be going faster that way [12:21] ubotu, you suck :/ [12:21] HymnToLife: Did you get hit by a windmill? [12:21] active-matrix: "I want to change the windows scale" makes exactly no sense. What are you trying to accomplish? [12:21] !plf [12:21] djteenbot: the browser caches it [12:21] Wish i knew, iHeartKem_ [12:21] ubotu doesnt know what PLF is [12:21] iHeartKem_: I don't know, could you explain it? [12:21] iHeartKem: U need to get this from the debian marillat repo's... but don't add them to ur sources.list... [12:21] can we create our own chat rooms on here on linux? [12:21] <_jason> teach him [12:21] iHeartKem > google it === Nerened [n=Nerened@c-24-21-184-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === MickMcMack is now known as MickMcAway [12:21] !tell iHeartKem_ about repos === jessid [n=jessid@cable200-116-215-170.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] hmmm === synackuator [n=drsynack@70-33-63-97.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] !info plf [12:22] iHeartKem_: iirc plf is a mandrake thing [12:22] how come ubuntu tells me that my flash drive is read only when it's not [12:22] i know how to do it on other distro's [12:22] !plf is #mandrake is there --> [12:22] okay, cafuego [12:22] i've tried chmod and chowning it [12:22] Thanks yall for your help :) [12:22] can i extract the codecs from the mplayer website into the mplayer codecs directory on ubuntu ? [12:22] (if i can find it of course) === MickMcAway is now known as MickMcMack === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-169.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] iHeartKem_: yes, into /usr/lib/win32 [12:22] hello!!! [12:22] hm hdparm -E1 doesn't seem to make a difference. Bummer. [12:22] synackuator: chmod and chown don't have any affect on filesystems that don't support permissions (like fat32) [12:22] can someone explain to me why i dont have permission to use my sound card? [12:23] !w32codecs [12:23] some of you have configured the puto wine??? [12:23] <_jason> iHeartKem, go to the link ubotu gave you and you can install it easily from a .deb === Paradosso [n=Paradoss@host35-52.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] plf is also an Ubuntu thing [12:23] !tell iHeartKem_ -about w32codecs [12:23] yeah? === MickMcMack is now known as MickMcAway === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Success"] [12:23] j2daosh: maybe u r not a member of group 'audio' ??? [12:23] cafuego, it's mouted rw 0 0 on /media/sda1 vfat [12:23] how do i make myself a member of that group? [12:23] !no plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf [12:23] okay, Seveas [12:23] synackuator: Yes, root can write to it then, users can't, by default. === nipplesrulz [n=WinNT@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] sup ^_^ [12:24] ok new project: [12:24] cafuego, root can't even write to it, but i can use it on windows just fine === kaoticorder [n=kaoticor@cpe-024-211-148-182.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] i want to access r/w my ext3 partition from windows [12:24] how can i do such a think? [12:24] i mean, i have not been able to fix this error: Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible. [12:24] Anyone know why my libqt3-mt-dev package is broken??It doesn't work [12:24] *thing [12:24] nipplesrulz > you can't [12:24] how do i su root [12:24] su root [12:24] stef... how do i edit the group? [12:24] does not work [12:24] nipplesrulz, google.com/search?q=explore2fs [12:24] active-matrix use sudo [12:24] Huh? I r/w my ext3 from windows all the time. [12:24] HymnToLife i heard there was a driver for that.. yeah ok thanx sev === MickMcAway is now known as MickMcMack [12:24] active... sudo [12:25] j2daosh: type "groups" to see it you already are, if not "sudo adduser audio" [12:25] er Seveas :D [12:25] !tell active-matrix about sudo [12:25] i dont want to use sudo [12:25] HymnToLife: what do you mean, you can't? [12:25] i want to use root [12:25] Seveas > if I remember well, explore2fs is read-only [12:25] nipplesrulz, http://www.fs-driver.org/ [12:25] !plf is also for filthy i386 users only [12:25] okay, cafuego [12:25] active-matrix: sudo -i [12:25] active-matrix, with sudo you cab become root [12:25] active-matrix su isnt used by default in ubuntu === nomed [n=daniele@host240-61.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] !plf =~ s/filthy // [12:25] Seveas: OK [12:25] i can not edit the proc with sudo damni [12:25] damnit [12:25] active-matrix: DO NOT just willy-nilly mess in /proc! [12:25] i need root [12:25] lol [12:26] man [12:26] active-matrix, 'edit proc?' [12:26] active-matrix: You obviously have no idea what you're doing there! [12:26] editing proc :) [12:26] active-matrix > why do you want to edit /proc in the first place ? [12:26] hehe [12:26] active-matrix: WHAT are you trying to ACCOMPLISH? [12:26] In a freak accident, I learnt the other day what 'sudo' meant in Spanish. === Dr_Willis wonders what needs edited in proc. [12:26] nipplesrulz: there's only unstable ext2-drivers for win2000 and xp.... but be aware... it's for ext2, so there's pretty of a chance to ruin ur partition if u write to them under windows.... [12:26] It's fitting. === gnomefreak never heard of proc and im thinking thats agood thing [12:26] active-matrix, google.com/search?q=clue === Kyral [n=kyral@sclab-166-10933.sclab.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] none have played with wine? [12:26] northie, enlighten us [12:26] Thanks, I figured it out [12:26] Seveas: Sudo = I sweat. [12:26] active-matrix: Because otherwise you will BREAK your system. [12:26] nipplesrulz: this will let you read and write ext3 from windows: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd [12:26] lmao [12:26] ok i got nothing with google... [12:26] cat /proc/cpuinfo [12:27] northie, hehe [12:27] i cant get my sound card to work [12:27] it's awesoe. [12:27] oh yes i want to break my system [12:27] Hey j2, join the club. [12:27] lol [12:27] active-matrix, http://www.microsoft.com/ [12:27] j2daosh, checked all the wiki thingies? [12:27] !sound [12:27] [sound] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary [12:27] active-matrix: Then random 'dd' calls would be more efficient. === Venson [n=Venson@user-0cdf65u.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] j2daosh, whats the problem [12:27] active-matrix > get a hammer, you will save you some hassle then :p [12:27] he can't play mp3s I bet [12:27] Hey Superbob, help me instead. [12:27] lmao Seveas [12:28] hmmm [12:28] esd says i dont have permission...totem says i dont have the proper decoders, and xmms says something is blocking my soundcard/its not configured right/i have the wrong oputput set [12:28] how can i get my root password [12:28] active-matrix: maybe 'sudo passwd'? [12:28] active-matrix: "sudo -i", with your own password, will get you a root shell [12:28] active-matrix: Can you answer my question? What are you trying to accomplish by modifyning info in /proc? [12:28] j2daosh: xmms needs to be told to use esd... === gremid [n=gremid@p54BDD34C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] what [12:28] active-matrix, 1 tablespoon of honey, 3 cloves of garlic and a teaspoon of cinnamon [12:28] the volume control says i dont have a soundcard [12:28] modifying info in proc [12:29] the device manager see it [12:29] wtf why?! [12:29] cafuego > he told it, he wants to break his system === exosyst [n=exosyst@cpc3-shep4-5-0-cust101.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] Kyral: yes, I've been trying to get him to tell me for 10 minutes. [12:29] j2daosh - what kind of computer do you have, laptop or desktop? [12:29] j2daosh, bear in mind you can normally have only one audio app running at a time [12:29] Hey j2daosh, what's your card? [12:29] desktop === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] can I install an older ubuntu version? [12:29] yeah i know super... but i cant get any of them to work [12:29] I keep getting debootstrap problem [12:29] j2daosh: You are nuts [12:29] Superbob: My Sb Live! works just fine from the Live CD, but not at all in my proper install. I've switched cards a few times, so I suppose that'll explain it, but is there a way I can fix my sound without reinstalling Ubuntu yet again? [12:29] bulio|lap > why not ? [12:29] debootstrap problem [12:30] why am i nuts? === jovino [n=ubuntu@host245-115.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] j2daosh: You CANNOT modify info in /proc === gremid [n=gremid@p54BDD34C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:30] lol im not nuts... im a noob... [12:30] northie, tyoe alsamixer make sure the channels are not muted [12:30] Hi again, fixed wireless (for those who remember question). Is there a way to install an older version of some software as i think i broke SMEG by using a new library [12:30] Kyral: j2daosh isn't the one wanting to modify /proc [12:30] j2daish - laptop or desktop? [12:30] im not trying to mod the /proc info... i dont even know what the /proc is [12:30] <_jason> Kyral, lol wrong person [12:30] lol [12:30] desktop [12:30] cat /proc/cpuinfo [12:30] ;) [12:30] Superbob: haven't got alsamixer, in fact. [12:30] im not gonna mess with files i dont know anything about... im not stupid [12:30] j2daosh - what kind of sound card is it? [12:30] /proc/sleep === soldieruk400 [n=peter@host86-141-151-39.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === ash_ [n=ash@tardis.mub.unimelb.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] its a ac 97 realtek thing from via tech [12:31] yeah, let me upgrade the CPU by setting the mhz to 3000 in /proc [12:31] disable "Plug and Play" in the bios === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has left #ubuntu [] [12:31] j2daosh: /proc is a "mirror" of the current system processes [12:31] that might help [12:31] lmao cafuego [12:31] northie, really i thought it was a default package? [12:31] kryal... then i definately aint touching that yet [12:31] Superbob: but anyhow, aplay -l says I haven't got a card. lspci finds it, thopugh. [12:31] HymnToLife: don't laugh, I'm leet! [12:31] its quite literally generated when the system boots [12:31] and give it 1G ahe memory [12:31] cache* [12:31] j2daosh: I thought it was literally impossible to modify the ifo [12:31] Superbob, Well, hoom. All right, I have it, but it won't open. [12:32] Superbob: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory === Knorrie [n=knorrie@confide.csrdelft.nl] has joined #ubuntu === exosyst [n=exosyst@cpc3-shep4-5-0-cust101.leic.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:32] northie: sounds like you're sound card wasn't detected... does /dev/dsp show up? [12:32] lol i could find a way [12:32] HymnToLife: It's alrteady got 1.5GB (and I note it's swapping 13Mb too!) [12:32] can someone help me, just a short question? [12:32] Shoot, roune. [12:32] and it would be a complete accident [12:32] lol === Kyral thinks he should write a WikiPage explaining the Linux Filesystem [12:33] w00t, THAT is one hell of a CPU :p [12:33] northie, you most likely dont have the module loaded for it [12:33] Kyral, be sure ones not allready been done. :P === B_166-ER-X [n=oli@c66.110.148-62.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu === BockBilbo [n=Bock@eu85-84-43-70.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] HymnToLife: === Silencer [n=Silencer@82.208.215.2] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] So nobody in here is having a clue about the broken via-xorg driver in breezy? just a link to a faq or something to read??? [12:33] sure :p === peterson_ [n=peterson@200-207-141-59.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] northie im having the same problem kinda... [12:33] stef65, checked the wiki and forums yet? === cafuego wonders what's eating all that ram, coz it's not being used as cache/buffer [12:33] yup! [12:33] mine says "ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0" [12:34] i reacently installed ubuntu, and then i needed to use su, but, i didnt know the pass .. Oo === Ron_o [n=Ron@12-226-8-144.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] cmatheson: Well. Hmm. I don't think so. [12:34] ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Permission denied [12:34] cafuego: did you try running top and sorting by memory usage? [12:34] ubotu tell roune about RootSudo [12:34] Superbob, that's what, modprobe emu10k1? [12:34] so i types sudo su and made a new pass, is that bad? [12:34] j2daosh: are you using Breezy? [12:34] cmatheson: Yeah, biggest is X with about 80Mb [12:34] whatever that means [12:34] roune, Congratulations! you just asked FAQ #1. [12:34] yeah im using breezy [12:34] :) [12:34] Anyone know why the libqt3-mt-dev package is broken whenever I try to use it with apt-get or synaptic? [12:34] j2daosh: cat /proc/asound/cards [12:34] lol [12:34] northie: ok, if you don't have /dev/dsp then you don't have the appropriate module loaded for your sound cared [12:34] i see :D [12:34] roune: You should have used 'sudo' and your user password. [12:34] roune: Checkout the link that Ubotu pmsged [12:34] but i dont like sudo :D [12:35] cmatheson, fixitfixit? === Kyral falls down [12:35] 0 [V8235 ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235 [12:35] VIA 8235 with AD1980 at 0xe000, irq 22 [12:35] cafuego: crazy, and free doesn't show it being used as cache... i don't know [12:35] roune: It's exactly THE SAME as 'su' [12:35] northie: i don't know, what kind of sound card is it [12:35] cafuego: its more like su -c [12:35] should i edit that somhow? [12:35] but its 2 charachters longer :D [12:35] roune: 'sudo -s' -> shell. [12:35] j2daosh: you haven't tried to compile your own ALSA drivers, have you? === agd [n=agd@226.red-62-57-25.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] Does anyone have experience with GRUB and IDE-PCI cards? [12:35] lol i dont even know what compiling is lol [12:35] What is /dev/dsp supposed to be, anyhow? I mean, how do I check if I have it or not? === locomorto [n=loco@unaffiliated/locomorto] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] northie: ls /dev/dsp === winterborne dies === cafuego goes to lie down under his desk and does poo [12:36] u do a cd /dev/dsp [12:36] northie: it's the sound-card's device file [12:36] j2daosh: paste the output from ''lsmod'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl [12:36] I have that. And a dsp1 and a dspw. [12:36] northie: /dev/dsp is provided in Ubuntu by ALSA's OSS emulation [12:36] northie: a simple 'ls /dev/dsp*' will tell you.... === tom__ [n=tom@213-156-52-112.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] hello === vostock [n=vostock@pcp968045pcs.lwrnce01.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] ok its there...whatever all that was [12:37] Right. And I've got stuff called /dev/dsp /dev/dsp1 /dev/dspW [12:37] is this a ubuntu chat room? [12:37] Does anyone have experience with the GRUB CLI? [12:37] Yes, tom. Yes. [12:37] tom__: it's an ubuntu channel. [12:37] <_jason> tom__, support channel [12:37] j2daosh: please pass me the url next time [12:37] tell you what iff some one wanted to compleatly fix my unbuntu in terms of stile and look id gladly let some body use remote lol [12:37] sweet!!!! [12:37] northie: so ur a nearly a recording studio owner... :-) [12:37] stef65, har-di-fricking-har. [12:37] northie, and lsmod shows some snd_ modules [12:37] im scared of mucking it up :O) [12:37] i have no soound. === peterson_ [n=peterson@200-207-141-59.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] oh... im sorry [12:38] northie: cat /proc/asound/cards === purpleheartusmc [i=purplehe@c-24-17-120-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] And the card's an Sb Live! 5.1, to whoever did the asking. [12:38] so does anyone use darkstat [12:38] ? [12:38] well, can u use su insread of sudo? [12:38] ^^ [12:38] northie: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org [12:38] same as mine cound card [12:38] Any ideas of where to get a linux ready box for cheap? [12:38] Gah anyone know about boa contructer? [12:38] purpleheartusmc: junkyard? [12:39] constructer [12:39] walmart [12:39] Anyone know about it [12:39] j2daosh: (still waiting for the url) [12:39] did u get it? [12:39] ty rambo [12:39] i dont know how to use irc really [12:39] crimsun - no need, it's short: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory [12:39] Anyone know about boa constructer? [12:39] northie: lspci -v |grep -i audio [12:39] j2daosh: just paste me the url of the paste === CarlF1 is now known as CarlFK [12:39] crimsun: 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) [12:39] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5679 === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@22-2-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] Phoul: some python thing iirc. an ide? [12:40] roune: well yes, but it means setting up a root password, meaning another password to manage [12:40] purpleheartusmc: mine was from the trash [12:40] Gah does anyone know how to USE it [12:40] Seveas http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html [12:40] <_jason> Phoul, have you visited #python yet? [12:40] im gonna test it with read/write [12:40] j2daosh: and output from ''amixer''? [12:40] ill write up a report in a week or two on the forums ;)_ [12:40] okay, :D [12:40] Phoul: might try in #python [12:41] um,, did u have the link? ^^ === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] I have ubuntu 4.10 [12:41] Can I unload one of the lsmod things? [12:41] northie: I need ''lsmod'' output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org, too [12:41] can I upgrade to 5.10 usintg apt-get? [12:41] It might be my now disabled onboard blocking stuff up. [12:41] bulio|lap: yes [12:41] crimsun, getting right on it. thanks. [12:41] i like ubuntu [12:41] admin@Admin:~$ amixer [12:41] amixer: Mixer attach default error: Permission denied [12:41] it has the polish and everything just works like on pclinuxos [12:41] but it feels faster [12:42] j2daosh: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] didn't work [12:43] crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5680 [12:43] admin@Admin:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload [12:43] Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device. [12:43] Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device. [12:43] I wanna do that forced reload thing. [12:43] That looks hot. === ermo [n=ermo@563402D4.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:44] j2daosh: and now amixer? (don't flood here) [12:44] crimsun, tell me to do a forced reload. [12:44] it did all that and "new devices" popped up but it said null and when i went to the sys->pref->sounds it doesn't give me an sound cards to chose [12:44] northie: you have OSS/Free drivers loaded. [12:44] northie: sudo modprobe -r emu10k1 ac97_codec [12:45] What does the -r do? [12:45] it unloads them [12:45] Okay. [12:45] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5681 [12:45] And now I should do what? [12:45] northie: then, sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 [12:45] FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 not found. [12:45] FATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k1 [12:45] northie: did you compile your own kernel and/or ALSA drivers? [12:45] No. [12:46] will I have a better chance of no corruption by using bittorrent? [12:46] bulio|lap: its more like burning it slower === tomodachi [n=comradev@69.177.143.195] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] northie: what Ubuntu install is this? [12:47] j2daosh: groups|grep audio && ls -l /dev/snd/controlC0 [12:47] Breezy. The thing that could've messed with it is that I've played around with a pair of different cards, including my onboard, with this install. === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] northie: meaning what version and how it was installed [12:47] hmm [12:47] northie: uname -r [12:47] 2.6.12-10-k7 [12:48] or should I dl ubuntu 5.04 [12:48] and upgrade? [12:48] all it did was give me a command line? [12:48] alrigh tI'm trying to install centericq in synaptic and it's wanting to Breezy Badger CD [12:48] wtf [12:48] dling with bittorrent [12:48] j2daosh: aha, that's why. [12:48] why can't it download it of the net? === arthur [n=aaaaaaaa@237-228.244.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] whats why? [12:48] what speed should I burn it at? [12:48] j2daosh: sudo adduser $USER audio [12:48] j2daosh: then log out and back into GNOME [12:48] z0rz: update your sources.list and take the cd sources out [12:49] what burning speed should I set it? [12:49] this laptop burn at 8X max [12:49] so 4X? [12:49] hello, can someone help me, i'm actually trying to install daimonin on my ubuntu linux [12:49] trappist wher's sources.list at? [12:49] in /etc/apt [12:49] You're fretting too much, bulio. 4x sounds fine, but 8x probably would be just as. [12:49] it says im already a member of audio === B_166-ER [n=oli@c207.134.134-180.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] but when i do groups it doesn't say i am?.... [12:49] could I just get it with apt-get? [12:49] j2daosh: then you couldn't have had just a blank line returned [12:50] j2daosh: echo $USER === czer323 [n=czer323@cpe-71-66-243-195.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] z0rz: yes, after you fix your sources.list [12:50] northie: 2 other CDs with seperate PCs and .isos failed [12:50] $user returns a blank space [12:50] bulio|lap, Jesus. [12:50] bulio|lap, Okay. I'll be quiet. [12:50] admin@Admin:~$ echo $user [12:50] admin@Admin:~$ [12:50] ? [12:50] exactly === Razor-X [n=user@user-11fb5lv.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] echo $USER [12:50] except there is a space between the 2 prompts [12:51] oh [12:51] lol [12:51] not 'user' :P [12:51] northie: sudo depmod -a && modinfo snd_emu10k1|head -1 [12:51] should I download once more, burn at 4X, and dl with bittorrent? [12:51] forgot its all case sensitve [12:51] or get 5.04? [12:51] anyone to help me in compiling daimonin ? [12:51] apt-get centericq? [12:51] crimsun, modinfo: could not find module snd_emu10k1 [12:51] ok i did and it showed me my name [12:51] ... [12:51] anyone? [12:51] somenone [12:51] and what do I need to change in sources.list ? I commented out the cd-rom... [12:51] i'm french [12:51] why cant I just install the updates ? it always says that it wasnt able to install everything [12:51] i dont speack english very well [12:51] northie: are you _positive_ you haven't mucked with anything kernel-related? [12:51] ok im added now === coz [n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] j2daosh: now, groups|grep audio [12:52] keeps giving me a blank line [12:52] dmin@Admin:~$ groups |grep audio [12:52] admin@Admin:~$ [12:52] crimsun, Eh. Yeah. Yes. This has been clean since format, except hardware. === BigKahuna [n=ian@cm147.sigma200.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] j2daosh: sudo adduser admin audio [12:53] but im added here "admin@Admin:~$ groups admin [12:53] admin : admin daemon bin sys adm tty disk mail audio backup crontab ssh [12:53] so, nobody to help me ? [12:53] crimsun, And possibly an attempt at alsa drivers for a bad card. can't quite recall. [12:53] crimsun, But went the module route with those, not the kernel one. [12:53] ( pleaaaase ) [12:53] how can i have unidentified packages in the updates if only universe and MAIN repos are activated ? [12:54] northie: please reinstall the kernel image: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r) [12:54] crimsun, One thing I did was change a module conf. somewhere or other, at the behest of someone in the channel, to include the line 'emu10k1'. [12:54] What is the best way to get all of the etra stuff: Java, Flash, RealPlayer, MPlayer, etc. working in kubuntu? Is there a good HOWTO? === noirequus is now known as nalioth [12:54] arthur, quest-que tu voulais? === phreq [n=phreq@davl-216-12-37-122.access.ntelos.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] northie: no, you must not use emu10k1. === bobbyg [n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] hello [12:54] northie : je n'arrive pas compiler daimonin [12:54] extra === Cokey [n=ubuntu@gatekeeper.dwc.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] arthur: please be patient. [12:54] ok, i'll be patient, no problem [12:54] could someone help me? [12:54] #ubuntu-fr pour un canal en francais [12:55] is there a really good slide show app for ubuntu/ [12:55] j2daosh: ls -l /dev/snd/controlC0 [12:55] crimsun, okie. [12:55] arthur: what's the issue? [12:55] <_jason> bobbyg, OOo Impress [12:55] thanks [12:55] impress!? [12:55] im trying to install VLC media player on this and i dont know how, could someone help? [12:55] well, i have lots of errors about SDL [12:55] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 0 2005-12-12 17:42 /dev/snd/controlC0 [12:55] how do i unpack a tar.gz [12:55] but i did install SDL and it's source === Deserir [i=greeny@226gis182.gulftel.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] but there's always the problem [12:55] Cokey > sudo apt-get install vlc [12:55] Cokey: enable the universe repository and install vlc [12:55] who is this seveas guy [12:55] chirsx1: tar -zx [12:55] bobbyg: he's a Ubuntu member, why? [12:55] Nobody can help me with trying to install libqt3-mt-dev via apt-get and synaptic??? [12:55] ty [12:56] Cokey: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-alsa === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@94-3-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] De nada. [12:56] bobbyg: Seveas is uber cool dude [12:56] I had friends of mine who were bumped from here and I know they didn't do anything wrong [12:56] bobbyg > yoou'd better not piss Seveas off [12:56] he bumped them [12:56] man gzip & man tar will be helpful. [12:56] or he will do you nasty things [12:56] I piss off anyone that has an adult body and a childish mind [12:56] j2daosh: whoami [12:56] bobbyg: they obviosly did.... [12:56] not likely [12:56] admin [12:57] Yes... [12:57] bobbyg, instead of ranting, why not simply ask? [12:57] crimsun, it's reinstalled. [12:57] Indeed! === MrNaught [n=mrnaught@S0106001125372935.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] crimsun, restart? [12:57] hthe only possiblity is that this seveas character is an extreme immature === bobbyg [n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #Ubuntu [requested] [12:57] Just like u at this moment in time === mrkoje [n=mrkoje@cpe-24-242-43-177.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] :( [12:57] lol [12:57] I don't need such crap [12:57] bobbyg > yeah, coming in to complain abouh nothing without asking is s0000000000000 mature... [12:57] anyone else have debootstrap problem? === bobbyg [n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] northie: no, modinfo snd_emu10k1|head -1 [12:58] Just like u at this moment in time [12:58] well thats what happens when u talk about a guy that hosts a repository [12:58] lol [12:58] :D [12:58] hello seveas [12:58] very clever [12:58] but again childish [12:58] bobbyg: stfu u kid [12:58] ....this guy sounds familier === aford [n=aford@dsl-140.117.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === bobbyg [n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #Ubuntu [requested] === mode/#ubuntu [+b bobbyg!*@*] by Seveas [12:58] lol sev [12:58] BAN HIM:D [12:58] lol [12:58] oo [12:58] to slow [12:58] :p [12:58] if a .htaccess file does not point to a password file, is there a default password file anywhere that I can add one to? [12:58] jenda was right.. lol ur pretty cool [12:58] chrisx1, do NOT ask for bans [12:58] o [12:58] :$ [12:58] I don't like banning people [12:58] Seveas, can you add the "ask protocol" to the bot. >_>; [12:58] U know u do:D [12:58] how can i make it so ubuntu does not try to syncronize the system clock with that website clock ? [12:58] aford: no [12:59] !tell MickMcMack about add [12:59] trappist [12:59] banning is only used as a last resort here. [12:59] trappist where do I add a user then? [12:59] chrisx1, you have been asked to put it all on one line that is so much noise, it is not right === barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.234] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] techrush, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove [12:59] techrush: Adminstration: Date and Time [12:59] that will work with the .htaccess file? [12:59] thanks to both of you [12:59] Seveas, awesome, didn't know it was public. ^_^ [12:59] crimsun, filename: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko [12:59] ok damnit... this sound card thing is kicking my @ss... [12:59] ompaul: sowwy I just added a catchall virtual user to my postfix config, and now all mail is being delivered there - even stuff that should go to real users. Is there a way to get postfix to process the real stuff first, then the catchall? [01:00] how do i set up ssh so i can let someone in to fix it? [01:00] j2daosh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server [01:00] j2daosh: hmm, so your user is named 'admin'? [01:00] yeah [01:00] j2daosh: and ''groups|grep audio'' returns nothing? [01:00] jwda0sh: make sure you have your router forwarded to accept port 22 and forward it to your computer's IP [01:00] nope [01:01] does anyone know how to make dc++ work with linux? === buzzc1 [n=buzzetti@ool-4577218b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] chrisx1, pm? [01:01] it only says im part of the audio if i do a groups admin [01:01] j2daosh: but ''groups admin|grep audio'' does? [01:01] Cokey, use synaptic to grab valknut? [01:01] yep [01:01] ompaul: why? === kurros [n=wade@74.250.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] This channel is amazing. [01:01] Cokey, valknut's an opensource, linux-compatible dc client. [01:01] I love just sitting reading everything. [01:01] that will work in place of dc++ [01:01] where is the source .list file? [01:01] it's like a streaming source of knowledge. [01:01] i have to rename it back to source.list [01:01] j2daosh: try this: create a new user, sudo adduser test && sudo adduser test audio === andersen [n=anders@cpe.atm2-0-1291055.0x50a0f2c2.arcnxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] thanks [01:02] j2daosh: then log in as the 'test' user [01:02] czer323, you'll go mad. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu === andersen [n=anders@cpe.atm2-0-1291055.0x50a0f2c2.arcnxx10.customer.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:02] oh and how can i see my current upload and download speeds? and how do i cap them? [01:02] They say that genius borders madness. ;) === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] northie: did you paste the output I requested? [01:03] how do i log in as test without logging out of me? [01:03] czer323, so that's why canada's where it's at.. [01:03] crimsun, filename: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko [01:03] j2, su [01:03] j2daosh: Applications> System Tools [01:03] j2daosh: try the login as different/new user [01:04] northie: good. now, sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 [01:04] if a .htaccess file does not point to a password file, is there a default password file anywhere that I can add usename and password? if so where is it? if not how do I add a new username and password that the htaccess file will recognise? [01:04] crimsun, Hey, stuff's going down. === sklav [n=sklav@64.235.218.42] has joined #ubuntu === Murrlin [n=murrlin@dsl093-026-225.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] crimsun, things popped up in my gnome saying it'd detected stuff. So I had messed the kernel up after all? [01:04] northie: not the kernel, just the drivers for your sound card. [01:04] well what the hell... the test account works [01:05] crimsun, but still had to redownload the kernel? [01:05] ok [01:05] can i delete the admin account and rename the test account admin? === xman_ [n=xma@68.42.204.159] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] j2daosh: I recommend you create a new user and use that one instead of 'admin' [01:05] ok [01:05] crimsun: I can choose a sound card under preferences/sound now, which is nice. Should it work right awaY? === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] === epardom [n=epardom@187.Red-81-34-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] j2daosh: then please file a bug on bugzilla with the description that a user named 'admin' doesn't have proper access to groups listed in ''groups'' [01:06] that is a very nice feature northie [01:06] northie: it requires a restart of the sound apps === epardom [n=epardom@187.Red-81-34-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:07] lol do wha? [01:07] valknut didnt work [01:07] j2daosh: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com [01:07] I deleted the only 'xserver', even tho gdm starts one for me, in the config [01:07] j2daosh: have you created a new user yet? [01:07] Won't take up more of your time, crimsun. Big thanks. [01:07] yeah [01:07] created a "shared" account === Murrlin scrambling to get to the specific window [01:07] northie: np, you're not taking up my time [01:07] here are my errors with daimonin's "make all" : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.ca/33453 [01:07] ubotu ask is The ask protocol: FACT, asking to ask a question is the second biggest waste of bandwidth on the intarweb, (the first being this message), so please don't ask to ask, just ask away! [01:07] ...but ask is already something else... [01:07] >_< [01:07] ~asl [01:07] ~ask * [01:07] how can i open .avi's on this thing? [01:07] can someone recomend me, a Light c++ editor (will be nice having debug & compile in it) its for vmware with only 192Ram so heavy editors are a problem [01:07] Lies and slander. -_-; [01:08] intarweb ? [01:08] Worked anyhow, crimsun. I've got sound. Awesome. One week without it, I think I developed tics. [01:08] nickrud: asl?!?!?! [01:08] errr [01:08] Dr_Acemaster, yes indeedly. [01:08] ToR911, vim [01:08] * Dr_Willis [01:08] ok there's the config screen [01:08] MickMcMack: asl?!?! [01:08] what is the best dc++ for linux? [01:08] what do I enter? [01:08] ;) [01:08] !tell MickMcMack about ask [01:08] Razor-X, it was a typo :) [01:08] it doesnt find valknut === mwe [n=mwe@port462.ds1-ynoe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] MickMcMack: 999/n/australia's down under [01:09] :P === Siph0n-Lab [n=siph0n@gateway1.ycp.edu] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] Seveas: I realized that, had to play on it though :P [01:09] x) === soldieruk400 [n=peter@host86-141-151-39.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] ubotu ask-protocol is The Ask Protocol: FACT, asking to ask a question is the second biggest waste of bandwidth on the intarweb, (the first being this message), so please don't ask to ask, just ask away! [01:09] MickMcMack: okay [01:09] Wehay. ^_^ [01:09] Where can a find an MP3 decoder? I'm surprised it isn't standard with the installation === vexen [n=wow@keiyaku.teteny.elte.hu] has joined #ubuntu === Kingbahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] !tell Pianomany2k about mp3 [01:10] i need one for my ipod to [01:10] j2daosh: ok, what is the output from ''groups'' ? === vexen [n=wow@keiyaku.teteny.elte.hu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === curtis-mac [n=curtishu@c-67-170-91-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has left #ubuntu [] [01:12] which is best for .nzb files? [01:12] i have no idea how to open them === tipnmo [n=ian@c-67-171-159-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Dethread [n=Dethread@198.69.27.10] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] Cokey: I presume you could try newsleecher in wine [01:12] Cokey: I would suggest a google search :P, and maybe a bit of context on what's in the file, and where you got it from [01:12] !tell Dido- about rar [01:12] ;)) [01:13] from any .nzb file search [01:13] nzbsrus.com === Pianomany2k [n=Pianoman@3639239789.mi.dial.123.net] has joined #ubuntu === Silencer [n=Silencer@212.200.27.38] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] how do i configure wine [01:13] i tried earlier [01:13] you shouldn't need to configure it at all [01:13] Cokey hard [01:13] just install it, then: wine foo.exe [01:13] how do i install it? [01:13] sudo aptitude install wine === northie [n=northie@832232684-FASTBIT1-SE.host.songnetworks.se] has joined #ubuntu === ol_bob [n=bobhemus@hc-max4048-159.sisqtel.net] has joined #ubuntu === angel12 [n=fallingu@71-32-100-56.albq.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu === pulver [n=jonas@c-451e70d5.019-10-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === Kuyaedz [n=Crister@65.106.115.194.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu === angel12 [n=fallingu@71-32-100-56.albq.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:14] which version of wine is in the repo? [01:14] !info wine [01:14] wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB [01:14] Seveas: I didn't catch that message about the MP3...my connection locked [01:14] Reading package lists... Done [01:14] Building dependency tree [01:14] Initializing package states... Done [01:14] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [01:14] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [01:14] thats what it said [01:15] !tell Pianomany2k about mp3 [01:15] are u using synaptic? [01:15] Cokey: close synaptic or any other tools [01:15] ok [01:15] Cokey, if synaptic and update are closed, check service monitor [01:16] pastebin.com/461641 === HymnToLife is listening to Let Me Hear You Call My Name by Charles, Ray === siko [n=huha@60.48.75.221] has joined #ubuntu [01:16] is that correct? [01:17] np: Eminem - When I'm Gone - Dirty [01:17] :P [01:17] HymnToLife are you using xmms? tell me how to get that plugin installed if you are [01:17] hey! i know some ppl that know some ppl that barely know howto point and click on stuff so i was thinking is there a way to add a windoze self-extracting executable to an archive like zip, tar, rar etc from within linux? === lonewolf2 [n=lonewolf@host86-128-0-23.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] chrisx1: that's considered spam, too. [01:17] :( [01:17] Dido- > nope, I'm using amarok [01:18] what is service monitor? [01:18] chrisx1 are you using xmms? tell me how to get that plugin installed if you are [01:18] Dido-: i got xmms [01:18] ;] [01:18] oh [01:18] ;) [01:18] xlack for xchat [01:18] nees xmms for perl === tj_ [n=tj@adsl-158-133-44.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] *needs [01:18] hello all [01:18] hello [01:18] hello [01:19] hi tj_ [01:19] any one know where to put scripts of startup [01:19] i thought it was /etc/init.d/rcx.d but its not there === Azad [n=kahraman@AMarseille-152-1-77-201.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Azad [n=kahraman@AMarseille-152-1-77-201.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Quitte"] === Killer_Smurf [n=Killer_S@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] Cokey: are running ubuntu on PowerPC? [01:20] mmm power pc [01:20] tj_, /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to enable them === dnB [n=dnB@24-205-181-251.dhcp.wsco.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] no [01:20] live cd [01:20] on mtiger [01:20] Seveas, do you create file? [01:20] can someone tell me where the xchat folder is? on www.xchat.org it says /usr/share/xchat/ , however that folder doesnt exist === lukins [n=lukins@dialup-4.131.2.73.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] im new, if you couldnt tell....i just got it earlier today [01:21] hey Seveas what was that nice thing that access linux files from windows? based on putty or the like? scm sfm stp or something? === jimjawn_ [n=jimjawn@tupouhs.fwc.edu.to] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] ive never used linux and need all the help i can get [01:21] dnB > to do what ? [01:21] dnB: you mean personal settings? [01:21] dnB, dpkg -L xchat === Zugwrack [n=zugwrack@cpe-70-120-176-147.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] i just need to know how to get dc++ and how to open .nzb files [01:21] mtiger? [01:21] Cokey > you've come to the right place then :) [01:21] Cokey: wine only runs on i386 [01:21] tiger [01:21] nipplesrulz, winscp [01:21] dnB: Your personal settings are in ~/.xchat2 [01:21] oh it does/ [01:21] So on powerpc after all. [01:21] or pscp from putty [01:21] sweet thanx Seveas! [01:21] Kyral, im actually looking for the pngs for the 'orbs' near the userlist [01:21] pscp? o.O [01:21] which do you think is a little betteh? [01:21] which should be in /usr/share/xchat [01:21] dnB: NFI ;P [01:21] Seveas, thanks [01:21] personal opinion and all [01:21] well is there something else to open .nzb files in powerpc? [01:22] Kyral, :) === Murrlin [n=murrlin@dsl093-026-225.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu ["Hiding] [01:22] What is a .nzb file? [01:22] Apart from BZN in reverse? === cafuego frightens Seveas [01:22] nipplesrulz, ditching windows and using Ubuntu exclusively would be better [01:22] Anyone tell me a easy way to cat a list together of files I just installed with synaptic? [01:23] its from usenet === ChairmanMeow [n=Chairman@c-67-161-254-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] could anyone help me with alittle dirver install problem (first try at linux) [01:23] Seveas: everybody cant do tht :( [01:23] Or does synaptic keep a log? [01:23] downloading programs, movies, music [01:23] i follow the directions exactly [01:23] Zugwrack: synaptic keeps a log [01:23] for.ex. there's no skype+wine&broodwar love in ubuntu [01:23] and i get this ian@tipnmo:~/rtl8180-0.21$ make && make install [01:23] Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/.config: No such file or directory [01:23] make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/.config'. Stop. [01:23] when you save them off of a website their .nzb files [01:23] (and the ATI drivers in breezy are horrible) [01:23] Seveas currently with a dual boot box and a linux only box.. [01:23] .nzb is not usable on linux [01:23] what? [01:23] for real? [01:23] till i get better at a few things i need it >_< [01:23] Seveas, knzb? [01:23] cafuego: Thanks..in /var/log? Or in the synaptic dir? [01:23] nipplesrulz, I never used either one of those, so I can't say [01:23] besides there is no good replacement for utorrent.com [01:23] tipnmo: install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential and gcc-3.4 [01:23] dnB, are you kidding me? [01:24] !info knzb === WildPenguin [n=chris@250.160.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] !info knzb [01:24] Package 'knzb' does not exist. [01:24] wtf [01:24] brb [01:24] Zugwrack: Syanptic -> File-> History [01:24] i did get build ess. [01:24] no just .nzb [01:24] cafuego: Kewl thanks!! [01:24] no knzb [01:24] Why is it that apache 2 gets installed in the /etc/ directory when I read about tutorials that say the server is supposed to be installed in /usr/local/web/apache??? [01:24] Seveas, http://dmp.org.uk/linux/knzb/ === lukins [n=lukins@dialup-4.131.2.73.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] earldude1: that would only be if you compiled it yourself [01:25] woot. [01:25] NZB looks like it might be proprietary [01:25] oh. === bimberi googles nzb and gets "New Zealand Bloodstock Ltd" [01:25] earldude1, apache does not get installed anywhere specifically [01:25] earldude1, dpkg -L apache2 [01:25] earldude1: and it's only the config files going in /etc/, the binaries go in /usr/sbin, libs go in /usr/lib, etc. [01:25] It doesn't? === Zugwrack loves Ubuntu PPC.... [01:25] earldude1, and those tutorials clearly suck [01:25] go to www.nzbsrus.com [01:25] cafuego, Knzb is a KDE binary newsgroup download tool. It parses and loads nzb files, such as those from Newzbin.com (An nzb file is an xml 'index' file, for news posts). [01:25] yeah I can see that === incipiens [n=centron@p54BE3CB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] RIGHT! [01:26] hi all [01:26] Cokey: http://docs.newzbin.com/WhatIsAnNZBFile -> Scroll down to Linux/UNIX [01:26] now how do i open those files? [01:26] seveas, what is the dpkg -L apache2 command do? [01:26] ich kann Pan nicht aufrufen [01:26] Anyone tell me if I have to do anything special after I mark myself away to show as being back active? X-Chat [01:26] earldude1: lists the files in the apache2 package [01:26] Zugwrack > /back [01:26] Cokey: ... then try to install any of those clients using synaptic or apt-get first. [01:26] HymnToLife: thank you... [01:26] incipiens, apt-get install pan === rel_ish [n=REL@216.184.23.102.unused.swcp.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] ja das ging fehlerfrei [01:27] hmm, well I guess whaT i'M REALLY trying to figure out here, is WHERE should I set up the actual web pages for apache? [01:27] just search in synaptic? [01:27] earldude1: /var/www [01:27] wenn ich dan pan oder Pan aufrufe tut sich nix [01:27] dnB: Yeah, looks like a joyful warez and/or pr0n distribution format ;-) [01:27] !de [01:27] de is probably Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de [01:27] !de [01:27] crimsun: Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package. [01:27] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [01:27] is only available from another source [01:27] E: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate [01:27] Ok, and WHERE is the configuration file that I use to tell apache about my different web site? [01:27] earldude1: /etc/apache2 [01:27] cafuego, it is indeed, its the only reason i still have windows boot [01:28] Knnt euch vielleicht dort aus Deutsch weiter diskutieren? [01:28] what do i do in apt-get? [01:28] type in the program name? [01:28] cafuego, #ubuntu-de [01:28] :p [01:28] tipnmo: you don't have the main repository enabled? [01:28] Seveas: Zwei-Eins [01:28] Seveas wie soll ich pan aufrufen? [01:28] /kick cafuego Drei [01:28] i dont know [01:28] cafuego > is your CPU doing well after your latest /proc upgrae ? :p [01:28] incipiens: Please join #ubuntu-de if you insist on not using english. [01:28] i dont think i have change anything === Sneaky_Bastard [n=Sneakste@209.151.242.178] has joined #ubuntu === xvlun [n=Jan@dslc-213-023-136-053.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] HymnToLife: it simply _flies_ [01:29] ok i am sorry [01:29] that rocks [01:29] i dont know how to re-enable the main repo. [01:29] i was just asking how to start Pan after i installed it === MMond [n=cl0necor@adsl-69-210-75-73.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] I'm gonna upgrade mine to 2,8 THz, it will kick some hard ass :p [01:29] HymnToLife: I installed a spare athlonxp as i/o controller as well... repalces teh nforce chipset, that also made is WAY faster. === Wonkey_Donkey [n=wonkey_d@82-38-184-69.cable.ubr03.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] Seveas i get update-rc.d not found [01:30] HymnToLife: keep in mind you can't set it to a faster speed than INT_MAX via /proc === [XPD8] -ReDDoG- [n=reddog@global100.symvionics.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] do i need to apt-get something [01:30] too bad :( === Wonkey_Donkey [n=wonkey_d@82-38-184-69.cable.ubr03.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] this is ubuntu 5.10 server === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-170-53.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] tj_: did you do it as sudo? === Wonkey_Donkey [n=wonkey_d@82-38-184-69.cable.ubr03.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [01:30] He, I'm trying to put Linux on my laptop.. but this comes up after I press "enter" on boot (warty disc): Loading /install/vmlinux: Disk error 20, AX = 4280, drive 82 -- any words? [01:31] yeah sudo [01:31] someone here told me to use Serpentine to make Audio cd based on mp3 files, but serpentine doesnt seems to add them to the list.. [01:31] MMond: try a different CD. === bob832 [n=bob832@68-233-112-23.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] i install nget from synaptic, now where do i find that program? [01:31] MMond: and also, don't use Warty [01:31] it weird, i thought that was a base command [01:31] how should i reboot or turn off my pc ? [01:32] Cokey: /usr/bin? [01:32] where does the java package install itself? [01:32] and how do u do a file search in linux? [01:33] locate [01:33] ToR911: find or locate [01:33] Alright, just put in the newer one, wish me luck. And I might as well ask now -- I want to have Linux fill the entire drive now . . . and I know nothing of partitioning and such things -- any specific link, or source I can consult to know things of that a bit to manage that part of the installation? === [XPD8] -ReDDoG- is now known as redtech [01:33] huh? [01:33] Hey Thanks cmatheson, seveas, and everyone else for your help. This irc channel ROCKS [01:33] ToR911 or by the menu bar > places> search === funkyHat_ [n=matt@cpc3-nthc3-3-1-cust65.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] where does the java package install itself? [01:34] what is that? [01:34] ..and so does linux, and ubuntu specifically [01:34] ToR911: well, it's in a pretty funky location, but if you want to use it then run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' [01:34] so how can i enable the main repository?? [01:34] tipnmo: uncomment it in /etc/apt/sources.list? === jimjawn_ [n=jimjawn@tupouhs.fwc.edu.to] has left #Ubuntu [] [01:35] Okay, I have warty on my laptop currently . . . if I do "apt-get dist-upgrade" - can I expect everything to work out alright? === tomodachi [n=comradev@69.177.143.195] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] MMond: hmm, you may want to dist-upgrade to hoary, and then to breezy [01:35] how do I log in as root? ubuntu doesn't let me. I realize you can sudo, but why can't I root as well ? [01:35] earldude1: there isn'at a root-account === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat [01:35] earldude1,you can, actually [01:35] earldude1: i just use 'sudo -s' to get a root shell, but you can run 'sudo passwd' to make a root account [01:35] faq #1 :P thats 3 times tonight. [01:35] cmatheson: So then I should type "apt-get dist-upgrade Hoary" exactly? :s [01:36] and there certainly is a root account [01:36] there is just not a root password set by the default install [01:36] well there is, but it's disabled [01:36] sure is, well on my system heh [01:36] 'logging in directly to the root account is disabled' [01:36] however there is a root password set during the expert install [01:36] earldude1, u can do sudo -i -H to stay as root.then type "exit" when uy are doen === andi- [n=no@81.166.44.235] has joined #ubuntu === billtheguy [n=dfdsf@12-210-129-151.client.insightBB.com] has joined #Ubuntu [01:36] earldude1: sudo -i will give you a root shell [01:36] bimberi, no, it is not disabled. It just needs to have the password set [01:36] cmatheson: this will set the default java to the new java i installed? [01:36] MMond: no, you're going to have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all references to 'warty' to 'hoary' and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [01:36] ToR911: yes, you can choose the new one from a list [01:36] ty [01:36] sudo passwd root -password- something like that [01:37] no, just sudo passwd [01:37] factotum, shame... :P [01:37] haha [01:37] sorry, just got home [01:37] kinda out of it atm [01:37] heh - my house is a total mad house - with relatives in for the holidays. [01:37] argh, i know how that goes [01:37] were there no root account, the system wouldn't even run. Most of the early processes are owned by root [01:37] I did the sudo passwd root, but then If I try to login to the gdm it tells me I can't, I don't remember the message, something about not allowing that root access there. === Snake785 [i=Snake785@CPE000c765554fe-CM0f0079804818.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] earldude1, gdm also has 'root' logging in disabled. [01:38] but I like all of the other solutions [01:38] ok well i know this is a horribly dumb question.. but i dont have a clue how to login in root [01:38] earldude1, thats a gdm security feature., [01:38] yea i can find it in /usr/bin but its 47KB [01:38] i figure thats too small [01:38] earldude1: gdm doesn't allow you to by default... you'll have to edit your /etc/gdm.conf or something like that... but it's not recommended to log into X as root [01:38] earldude1, you want to log into X as root? That can be done but it's a really bad idea [01:38] and nothing happens when i click it [01:38] I still have about a week before that sets in, thought it was bad before, then I got married! Har! sorry... off topic, I know [01:38] how do i install it? [01:38] */etc/gdm/gdm.conf [01:38] i d/led it from synaptic [01:39] Ok, thanks everyone. I'll take your word for it... and use the other solutions for temporarily SUDO'ing in a terminal window [01:39] wow, quick answers!!! === fushi [n=fushi@68-168-218-86.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] I've a ridiculously stupid question.. how do I shut down the computer in CLI? "shutdown now" doesn't entirely work [01:39] halt -p [01:39] sudo shutdown -h now ? [01:39] earldude1, you can do either type of root access in a terminal window [01:40] sudo init 0 could work as well [01:40] i have a question about the install, this is y first go and im haveing a problem after i am asked to remove the disk and reboot, i am getting stuck at the pre-boot execution enviornment and get the disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter error === marky [n=marky@84.12.195.57] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] And all of these things should be "safe" to do? === jahshua [i=pi@72.20.3.78] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] Hi all [01:40] cool [01:40] MMond, not sure with ubuntu but fedora you could telinit 0 [01:40] they all shutdown the pc properly [01:40] MMond: yeah you'll be okay [01:40] MMond, you can do shutdown -h now [01:40] anybody? how to login as root? [01:40] no need [01:40] just use sudo [01:41] tipnmo, you don't.... you use sudo [01:41] if you MUST use root then " sudo passwd root " [01:41] tipnmo, yes, I know how, but why do you want to? [01:41] but you can do almost anything with sudo [01:41] nipplesrulz, just plain sudo passwd [01:41] that way you stay out of the habbit of using root === tOta [n=tota@80.71.149.39] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:41] sethk right.. im in the habbit of always defining the username lol [01:41] to edit sources.list [01:41] tipnmo, using visudo, you can configure to allow your user to do anything specific that root can do [01:42] tipnmo, so the risk of the more general su is thought to be a bad idea [01:42] anyone know change file assosiations? so movies don't open up in totem? [01:42] it says that i d/led nget from synaptic? now where do i find it? [01:42] you didnt have it just install it Cokey? === eimi [n=eimi@67-42-141-36.albq.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] i got it from synaptic === brasi [n=brasi@adsl-ull-184-155.46-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu === Dido- [n=9@193.68.201.169] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] yeah then its installed already [01:43] i found it in /usr/bin [01:43] but its 47KB [01:43] eh === cpare [n=chris@188.108.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] isnt that too small? === cedric [n=cedric@modemcable123.18-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === Yuri [n=yuri@201-42-129-177.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] Hello all === [A] ndy80 [n=wettreyw@host215-170.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] hello! [01:43] thats only the executable bit most likely i think [01:43] where do i find it? [01:43] Can anyone help with apache? (seems #apache is a bit dead) [01:43] I have a question about running KDE apps in Ubuntu. I keep getting this error with DCOP. I've done a lot of searching on ubutuforums.org and via google but I still can't get any kde app from running. The details for this message is "Could not read network connection list. Please check that the 'dcopserver' program is running" Does anyone have any suggestions to solving this? Thanks === mrkoje is now known as mrkoje_away [01:43] marky, look at preferred applications on the system menu [01:43] sup cpare [01:43] what exactly do you need with it Cokey? [01:43] to d/l nzb files [01:44] snake785 are you using bluetooth? [01:44] When ubuntu starts I get this massage: your $/home.dtmc (or something like that) has illegal permission this prevents you from saving the session bla bl.... how could i fix that === MasterTsunami [n=MasterTs@unaffiliated/mastertsunami] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] nipplesrulz: would you please change your nickname? this is a family channel [01:44] Any brazillian ubuntu users here? :P [01:44] How do i kill a process [01:44] Two more trivial questions: What exactly does Ctrl+S and Ctrl+D do? [01:44] i've never edited something like this === gnunja [n=gnunja@jau31-2-82-230-109-252.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] I dont have any bluetooth devices === Davey [n=Davey@unaffiliated/davey] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] thanks sethk [01:44] Snake785, starting dcopserver sounds like a reasonable thing to try. [01:44] where do i find it? [01:44] ctrl d add bookmark [01:44] ctrl+s saves I guess :o [01:44] Yuri: if you need to speak another language, there are a multitude of non-English Ubuntu support channels [01:44] sethk: that only does web browser, mail reader, terminal... === idiot [n=idiot@c-24-128-54-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] How do i kill a process [01:45] I know Ctrl+D logs out, but what else does it do? I'm reading a guide, this is what it does but I don't really understand: "Send [End-of-File] to the current process." [01:45] dwhsix, yes, but your web browser is also your file browser [01:45] christel: kill or killall [01:45] MMond: depends on the app [01:45] Cokey: looks like nget is a command-line program (type nget in a terminal). klibido might be a better choice [01:45] tks Razor, but write in english isn't a problem to me (i guess :P) [01:45] MMond: yes, so if you're using something that wants to read in til it hits EOF (like mail), you could hit ^D to simulate the EOF [01:46] someone got a moment for an easy one... [01:46] Razor-X: Yes.. just a term window [01:46] sethk that preffered applications on the system menu only changes 3 things [01:46] sethk: The output from running dcopserver is /usr/bin/iceauth: /tmp/dcopPfMg8b:1 bad "add" command line; /usr/bin/iceauth: /tmp/dcopPfMg8b:2 bad "add" command line; DCOPServer self-test failed. Any ideas? [01:46] MMond: I believe basic BASH options follow along with emacs binds [01:46] Or well, I'm actually on complete CLI right now, and I wish to know how things work so I make the most of it [01:46] ok.... [01:46] can't change the [01:46] Razor-X: you can configure it to be like vi === cedric [n=cedric@modemcable123.18-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Quitte"] [01:46] so mpegs are in vlc etv [01:46] cmatheson: yeah, that you can [01:46] etc* [01:46] Snake785, I would probably log into KDE. That will get all the KDE stuff up and running and configured. After that, if you log out and log back into gnome, you should be able to start dcopserver from the command line [01:46] MMond: C-d will delete the character underneath the point [01:46] sethk: so I guess one just needs to change the file associations in firefox or whatever web browser? [01:47] ubotu tell marky about defaultapp [01:47] I've tried that, but KDE won't start, I'll get that DCOP error and I'll get brought back to the login screen [01:47] where do i find klibido....? [01:47] hm, looks like ubotu is down [01:47] :( [01:47] dwhsix, typically, yes. KDE has a separate config dialog for it, but what it controls is konqueror [01:47] ubotu: !test [01:47] MMond: C-b will move the point backwards one character, C-f will move the point forward one character, M-p brings up the last command in the terminal === earldude1 [n=rickbman@c-67-177-47-57.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:47] Hey guys i figured out the update-rc.d command [01:47] hmm [01:47] it goes like this sudo update-rc.d noip2.sh defaults 90 === tristanmike [n=tristan@blk-224-251-101.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] MMond: if you want research into this stuff, I suggest you first decide whether you prefer vi or emacs style controls [01:48] Razor-X, try zsh. It has millions of config options that you can spend a few months playing with if you are so inclined. [01:48] I'm trying to figure out some of the programs in the system> preferences menu. Where are they listed? [01:48] Razor-X, I much prefer zsh (to bash) for CLI [01:48] sethk: I use zsh, actually, and I love it :) [01:48] Razor-X, yes, the completion is amazing. [01:48] zsh hmm? [01:48] incredible [01:48] marky: do you mean file associations in nautilus? if so, right-click on a file, select properties, then the Open With tab and change the setting [01:48] has zsh fixed/added full UTF-8 support? [01:48] Tell more! [01:48] what exactly does zsh do that bash doesn't? [01:48] and I've totally stopped using ``cd'' :) [01:48] ah.... [01:48] lemme try iy [01:48] (AUTO-CD kicks arse :) [01:48] Auto-CD? === Sneaky_Bastard [n=Sneakste@209.151.242.178] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] cmatheson, bunches of small things which, aggregated, reduce the amount of typing by a huge amount [01:49] TELL ME MORE NOW!! [01:49] bimberi: that's it [01:49] cmatheson: BASH's completion sucks, really, and it's not nearly as scriptable or configurable as ZSH [01:49] ok i found klibido, but its .tar.gz how do i open this? [01:49] or install it? [01:49] any help? [01:49] Kyral, autocd means that if you type a directory name, the shell (after realizing that it isn't a command or alias) assumes it is a directory name, and CDs to it [01:49] Razor-X: sethk: interesting, i'll have to check that out [01:49] i want to tell about performance on ubuntu [01:49] I tend to use that "Bash Completion" package. [01:49] Kyral: auto-cd, if you enter the name of a folder, it'll go there by default, unless it conflicts with the name of a program in your path (although it's not enabled by default) [01:49] sethk: jaw drop [01:49] cmatheson: the thing that zsh does that bash doesn't is spawn zealots ;-) [01:49] cmatheson, some of the best features aren't on by default. The best way to learn it is to turn on one at a time [01:49] Cokey: did you install it using Synaptic? [01:49] bimberi thats exactly it.......... thanks for bei ng so helpfull [01:50] Kyral, there is also auto-pushd, which turns every CD into a pushd [01:50] Yuri, having performance issues? [01:50] marky: np :) [01:50] wtf is a pushd? [01:50] Kyral, pushd and popd are directory stack commands. [01:50] no it doesnt find it [01:50] cmatheson: plus, a lot of cool features from KSH and dare I say it, the *few* useful features from csh shell variants have been added here (like !!) [01:50] does it for you? [01:50] i have 1Gb of memory but i'm feeling some overhead on my system [01:50] im getting this error while compiling k3b from source and installing using checkinstall: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la', which is also in package k3blibs [01:50] any idea how to come over it? [01:50] Kyral, I frequently do this: pushd; whatever weird stuff I want to do; popd [01:50] i d/led the .tar.gz from sourceforge [01:50] gee that zsh sounds great [01:50] Kyral, and I end up in the same directory that I started in [01:50] shinu: prepend a ``sudo'' [01:50] sethk: I have no clue what it means [01:50] i got that now, now i dont know how to install it [01:50] cmatheson, zsh is really worth learning [01:50] Razor-X: Ahh - (missed your message, just got it) and thanks [01:50] Kyral, the zsh docs are quite good [01:51] I used zsh exclusively for many years [01:51] sethk: which package [01:51] what's the main difference between sudo and gksudo? [01:51] Kyral, bash also has pushd/popd, by the way [01:51] Yuri, i have had some issues with Video card drivers slowing me down [01:51] MMond: although, the first step for all of this, I think, is to pick your favorite terminal emulator [01:51] Razor-X: sudo checkinstall make install? i did that. [01:51] zsh, zsh-beta, or zsh30? [01:51] Kyral, in synaptic, there is a category of "shells" === cmatheson is reading up on zsh.sf.net... [01:51] Kyral, zsh [01:51] sadly the utf-8 default migration killed me [01:51] shinu: uninstall k3blibs [01:51] sethk: I use apt-get [01:51] crimsun: can you hop by offtopic and help me decide on a keyboard to get? [01:51] you idiot ;P [01:51] shinu: ``sudo checkinstall'' simply [01:51] NO! [01:51] Kyral, I always let everybody else find the bugs in betas for me. :) === Kyral stabbity Razor-X === indo [n=9@193.68.201.169] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] tj_, i don't have video card... my video is onboard... [01:51] bimberi: ok ill give that a try [01:51] Razor-X: I use a standard keyboard with a dvorak keymap [01:51] CheckInstall evil [01:51] Razor-X: but sure [01:52] Razor-X: ill try what bimberi said maybe === proxykillah [n=me@82-40-11-224.cable.ubr02.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] Kyral, I'd have to look up the package name, but I would bet that it starts with zsh :) === Kuyaedz [n=Crister@65.106.115.194.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu [] === xfree [n=nayif@84.235.6.126] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] sethk: I just did Apt-Cache search zsh ;P [01:52] crimsun: I also use Dvorak, awesome, but I have the money, and it's Christmas, and it may just be an IBM Model M :) [01:52] but i'm felling my system slowing down with ubuntu... [01:52] Cokey: it's much better to install using synaptic [01:52] Have you done all ubuntu updates? [01:52] Razor-X: I screwed up my X sometime ago . . . and fixing this seems hopeless now, I've been at it for days, months really . . . couldn't get it. As absrud as this sounds now -- I think I'll make my way with this. Perhaps find a few IM clients that work on CLI, I already use w3m, and other similar things . . . don't know, I think I'll wrestle with the idea. [01:52] Kyral, I think you can get the package name out of synaptic. hold on. [01:52] sethk: I'm NOT using Synaptic [01:52] Yuri: odd, my system flies on Ubuntu with 256 MB RAM [01:52] god... === markrian [n=Markrian@cpc1-cmbg2-5-1-cust216.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] MMond: you sound like me, only, X never worked on my first Debian install === ClayG [n=scdsc@c-66-177-234-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] so, whats wrong [01:52] Kyral, that's why I was going to get the package name for you [01:53] quick question...how do I pause the scrolling text at boot in Hoary? [01:53] MMond: lemme tell you, it's the *only* way to learn the CLI thoroughly === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] :) [01:53] i was installed system with default option [01:53] Kyral, if you were using synaptic, you wouldn't need the package name. [01:53] MMond: naim [01:53] MMond: centericq is a pretty decent cli im client [01:53] no boot parameters [01:53] how do i do that? [01:53] ok this is probably an extra newbie question, but why sometimes commands (IE: Main) pressing "Main" do not work, and "./Main" does (when Main is in my Dir) [01:53] Hehe, then I'll have fun. Kyral: Hrm? [01:53] i cant find it! [01:53] tristanmike: you ccan't... but you could try 'dmesg | less' after you log in [01:53] tristanmike: try CTRL-S (CTRL-Q to resume) - a guess tho [01:53] cmatheson: Only ICQ, then? === jimjawn [n=jimjawn@tupouhs.fwc.edu.to] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] MMond: When I am forced out of X (Gotta love Dapper :D) then I use Naim for AIM === jimjawn [n=jimjawn@tupouhs.fwc.edu.to] has left #ubuntu [] [01:53] MMond: in order to make your life easier: try out twin to get a desktop manager without X, check out centericq for a behemoth (a huge app) [01:54] does any one uses ubuntu and have try to use w32codecs or exist w64codecs? [01:54] MMond: no... it does at least icq/aol/m$n/yahoo and i thinhk jabber too [01:54] cool, I'll try both, thanx [01:54] Kyral: On, Naim is a CLI for AIM? Cool, I'll try it . . . within the hour [01:54] Any ideas for Yuri guys, performance for me has been great with 512 ram and 1.8 gig pentium [01:54] MMond: if ALSA works alright for you, I suggest using cplay for music (it's a frontend for other CLI apps) [01:54] cmatheson: yes jabber and IRC [01:54] on windows (urgh...) i don't feel my system slowing down... [01:54] cmatheson: Oh wow, that's.. a lot, surely fills my need. Thank you for the suggestion :D === JonasNorman [n=JonasNor@65-78-84-33.c5-0.atw-ubr1.atw.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu === xspades [n=Lenny@69.9.185.116] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] coag: good call [01:54] why sometimes commands (IE: Main) pressing "Main" do not work, and "./Main" does (when Main is in my Dir) [01:54] sethk: did you get the packagename? [01:54] yuri, amd or intel [01:55] Cokey: where can't you find it? in synaptic [01:55] AMD [01:55] Can someone explain what the sounds are I keep hearing on my Ubuntu machine - is it the wireless card? [01:55] ? [01:55] MMond: for video, MPlayer of course, you may also want to try out svgalib for image viewing [01:55] duron applebred 1800Mhz [01:55] ToR911, ./ says to execute it directly [01:55] amd for me is even faster [01:55] Razor-X: I prefer VLC lol [01:55] Kyral, I'm seeing zsh-doc and zsh so far. But you said you didn't find either. [01:55] MMond: centericq is better [01:55] out of nowhere "Briiip" [01:55] I'm having some trouble with wine. If I run winecfg and then click the audio tab, it crashes out and gives the error shown on this page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5682 [01:55] MMond: and if you really want the poor-man's image, use an ASCII converter :) [01:55] sethk: I found Zsh and others lol [01:55] Kyral: he doesen't have X [01:55] but if you copied the program to /bin which is in your path it would work without the ./ [01:55] Kyral, ok, good. [01:55] in the other room getting a drink "Briip" [01:55] got a problem [01:55] Razor-X: My sound never worked, actually. Well really, when I first put the Linux disc in for the first time to give it a shot . . . I wasn't expecting much compatibility, since this laptop is an old and obscure one. (Although has served my 6 years of heavenly use) [01:55] i search for it [01:55] I have 2 CD rom drives [01:55] nothing comes up [01:55] I'm just asking the difference [01:55] :) [01:55] Kyral, you need at least zsh and zsh-doc. well, you don't need zsh-doc, but you want it. [01:56] is that not right? [01:56] anyone know a way to take off "auto preview" for when you mouse over a mp3 and it plays? [01:56] it's killing me [01:56] in another distros, like kurumin (a fork of knoppix), my system runs very fast === mettallicat [n=ricardo@bl7-193-55.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable175.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] But on that, I was just wondering last thing if that was possible -- having sound work while on complete CLI -- very glad that you just told me of this [01:56] example /bin/sh is not local in that directory [01:56] MMond: maybe you want to do research on that -- use links2, links, or lynx for web-surfing [01:56] yuri have you done all updates [01:56] yes [01:56] there is a kernel update [01:56] Cokey: do you have the universe repository enabled? === Knowerrors [n=stormsur@Node10-175-53-66.1dial.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] they finished now [01:56] nm found it [01:56] MMond: (or firefox with SVGAlib) and you should get comfy with a text editor, quickly [01:56] but your script needs /bin/sh to execute the commands [01:56] MMond: a robust one, preferable, if you have no X [01:56] kde or gnome? [01:56] ./says relative to / [01:56] night* lynx for web browsing, yes, used that -- although I prefer w3m, perhaps it may be because that's the only thing I've used so far thoroughly [01:56] MMond: and also get very comfy with screen [01:56] I love screen [01:57] MMond: *whap* and w3m, of course :) [01:57] i have this error when i try to install a package -that should- normally install... (its in french, but ubuntu-fr cannot help me) 'dpkg: Les fichiers de dtournements a une ligne trop longue ou EOF (ii) ' [01:57] or something like that its been a while since it was explained to me [01:57] sklav: but the file is in MY directory, why won't executing its name work? [01:57] MMond: but, actually, if you use twin, you won't need screen :) [01:57] is there a command to make Ubuntu ignore my CD burner during install? [01:57] sethk: I can still run my bash scripts by specifying #!/bin/bash, right? === ClayG googles twin quickly (if it's better than screen im there!)_ [01:57] bulio|lap: why would you want t o? [01:57] ToR911, because unless you have a bin/bash or bin sh path within your directory it wont === t1n_m4n [n=lotus@cpe-24-194-132-157.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] Kyral, yes, of course. assuming there is a program /bin/bash :) [01:57] as i mentionned ./ means relative to / [01:57] example cd / [01:57] cd bin/sh [01:57] ClayG: it's used for a bit different purpose, but if you like the way it works, it's incredible, and without X, it's a godsend :) [01:58] oops === indo [n=9@193.68.201.169] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] cd /bin === janopotter [n=janopott@pc-52-116-241-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] ClayG: you could also try 'apt-cache show twin'... it appears to be a windowing system for console apps [01:58] execute sh [01:58] and so on [01:58] in your home === gpierce [n=gpierce@d149-67-175-87.clv.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] is there a command to make Ubuntu ignore my CD burner during install? [01:58] there is no cd bin [01:58] yea... [01:58] just did it === indo is now known as Dido- [01:58] anyone knows a channel specialized on ubuntu performance? [01:58] show? nice - adds to collection [01:58] still doesnt find it [01:58] bulio|lap, you've been answered already more than once [01:58] ClayG, 'twin' is VERY interesting. but in some ways very annoying. :P [01:58] Yuri: scour the wiki, you'll find something there for sure [01:58] hmm [01:58] tks razor [01:58] brb [01:58] i'll take a look [01:58] wtf [01:58] im hungry [01:59] I cannot backspace in ZSH [01:59] no cd bin? [01:59] Kyral: you're going to have to configure lots of stuff, at first [01:59] I type that at install boot? === Vespoli [n=adam@pool-71-246-226-147.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] well its good that Bash is still default [01:59] Cokey: did you update repositories after the change (Reload button in synaptic)? [01:59] yea its enabled [01:59] Kyral: so, backspace is ^H on your box, I imagine? [01:59] still doesnt find it [01:59] Kyral: get ready for fun with lynx and mplayer [01:59] MMond: for video, MPlayer of course, you may also want to try out svgalib for image viewing <- Eh? And I am forcing myself to use vim instead of nano or other text editors . . . right now I'm seeing less use of it, but many programmars told me otherwise, so I just am [01:59] Razor-X: I dunno [01:59] ;)( === daveb [n=daveb@ool-457001d3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] YEA [02:00] MMond: I suggest you investigate the emacs/vim fork in the road now [02:00] NOTHING! [02:00] MMond why is vim better than nano? [02:00] THIS IS ANNOYING! [02:00] MMond: you will bless the day you switched to vim forever [02:00] MMond: it depends on your own style, really [02:00] WTF! [02:00] sounds like "Yeow" [02:00] =P [02:00] MMond: but I can't find anything of compare to the two [02:00] Of your comment, I quickly thought you meant a video player for GUI . . . after some lines, I saw you saying something like "He has CLI" -- I can view images on CLI? [02:00] is vi like vim? [02:00] MMond: also, you want to try out mc if you want to manage files [02:00] i got a book from the library for vi today [02:00] reboot is for restarting, what's for turning off ? [02:00] JonasNorman: it's like vim, only horrible-er [02:00] Cokey, STOP TYPING IN CAPS [02:00] JonasNorman: vim is vi improved [02:00] I just want to disable the CD burner [02:00] shutdown [02:00] =) [02:00] oh darn [02:01] JonasNorman, vim is based on vi [02:01] not my main CD [02:01] ok, doesn't matter. nano suits basic needs in my opinion. [02:01] Dido- try shutdown -h now [02:01] Razor-x: horrible-er lol === Kib [n=boo@dslb-084-063-006-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === Flashmatt [n=matt@ip68-100-66-98.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] jinx [02:01] ooooooooooooook [02:01] :io === [1] Mr [i=HydraIRC@b-209-217.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #Ubuntu [02:01] * :O [02:01] why doesnt this work/ [02:01] JonasNorman: a history lesson in a nutshell: there were, at one time, two popular UNIX editors, a small, fast one called ed, and an infinitely customizable one called TECO [02:01] ubotu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 === Kib is now known as Kibou === Hobbsee is now known as Hobbsee_away [02:02] when i do the repositories to universal it doesnt stay that way === yuri_ [n=yuri@CPE00119552786e-CM014270032311.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] Cokey: ok, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [02:02] Meh where are the configfiles for zsh? [02:02] sklav right, thanks, let me try ;) [02:02] JonasNorman: TECO was originally closed source, a programmable set of macros and commands was originall created for it called TECO emacs, and was a very powerful subset of TECO, somewhere along the line, emacs split off from TECO and formed its own. It later had other forks like the emacs and XEmacs fork [02:02] sklav doesnt work [02:03] permission denied? [02:03] Linux Wireless Experts: Even though my WEP encryption is ON, Linux does not recognize that my BEFw11s4 has WEP on, does anyone know what settings I should change on the router to fix this??? === sorush20 [n=sorush3@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] JonasNorman: ed eventually upgraded into ex, which then upgraded to vi. vi forked into nvi, which was popular for a long time, until a more ``purist'' fork was devised called ``vim'', the current, popular, ed distillation [02:03] !help [02:03] :-/ === mikelds [n=miguel@201.144.88.154] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] :-\ === Vespoli needs ubotu :'( [02:03] fglrx question: I am installing using the ati-installer and on the wiki It says I should choose "specific Distribution" and select Ubuntu. The driver I got is slightly newer than the one on the wiki, and "ubuntu" is not one of the options. There are a bunch of debian option however [02:03] Flashmatt: you should be able to turn WEP on w/ iwconfig [02:04] guys is there a calculator program that allows you to write like you would with a pen so that you would not use * ^ ? [02:04] cmatheson: I did, but when I do a "iwlist scan" I can see other routers with their setting "Encryption: on", but mine continues to say "off" [02:04] sorush20, thats how i write with a pen. :P [02:04] Yuri, try the closest, hopefully for the same kernel version [02:04] Flashmatt: weird [02:04] really [02:04] ok bimberi [02:04] i did it [02:04] pasted it [02:05] sorush20: yeah what exactly did you have in mind? [02:05] when i try to install a package i have this error : diversions file has too-long line or EOF [02:05] Razor-X: Is emacs for the terminal [02:05] cmatheson: tell me about it, I've been working on this for days; when I turn WEP off, it still says encryption off, but I can connect now, but I don't want to leave WEP off, you know? [02:05] JonasNorman: it can be yeah [02:06] Flashmatt: yeah... i always keep mine open so i'm not too clear on WEP issues [02:06] so that the expressions would be written like you would right on paper , X instead of * then root sign instead of root [02:06] etc === Yuri [n=yuri@201-42-129-177.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] [02:06] Why does xv not work on ny system: Radeon 9600 with fglrx (xorg-driver-fglrx) it doesnt work in the multimedia selector or with mplayer? [02:06] JonasNorman: yep, it is [02:06] Razor-X: an that was a descendent of TECO, the more customizeable approach., while vim is from ed the small and fast. [02:06] sethk: the options under debian are : deb/sarge, deb/3.0 , deb/testing, deb/unstable , deb/stable, and about 5 others [02:06] JonasNorman: install ``emacs-nox'' [02:06] JonasNorman: exactly [02:06] sorush20: well i don't think there is a square root sign on the keyboard... i haven't heard of such a program though, sorry [02:07] Cokey: aha, no klibido in hoary :( - apologies for leading you up _that_ garden path [02:07] and that still remains the big debate, which side of the alley you want [02:07] Razor-X: at this point, which would you consider more customizeable and efficient for someone willing to take the high learning curver [02:07] ok.... [02:07] plus, the movement keys are pretty different, but they both support arrow-key movement [02:07] now what do i do? [02:07] fglrx works on my debian system on my laptop with xv...? [02:07] Razor-X: they're both pretty close now... emacs is probably still probably a little bit more customizeable w/ elisp though (but really vim is narrowing the gap everyday) [02:07] cmatheson: thanks anyways [02:07] JonasNorman: I would say emacs, it's much more customizable, and eventually, you'll be able to do anything in it (terminals, go on IRC (like I am now), IM with people, play nethack, etc.) [02:08] Cokey: back to nget i guess. I don't know that program at all. Others might. Perhaps try typing nget in a terminal... [02:08] nedit > * [02:08] Anyone else know how to setup their "router" for WEP? I'm running a BEFW11S4 [02:08] cmatheson: so I've heard, especially with the new vim irc client I've heard about :) [02:08] MMond: also, you want to try out mc if you want to manage files <- Manage files? I can't imagine what else I could potentially do, other than what the basic commands already do (i.e., ls, cd, etc.) [02:08] Nedit > vim & emacs [02:08] :) [02:08] i did member, and it didnt do anything === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.223.221] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] cmatheson, vim macros are really rather primitive. but there are a number of things that gvim does better than emacs. So I use both. [02:08] nget.cc:1104:caught exception nget.cc:1015:ConfigExFatal: neither /home/ubuntu/.nget5/ nor /home/ubuntu/_nget5/ exist [02:08] (see man nget for configuration info) [02:08] ERRORS: 1 fatal [02:08] MMond: you may also want to check out joe, which is another quaint editor [02:08] thats what it says [02:08] Razor-X: hehe, yeah. although i tend to just use my editor for editing mostly (i use screen if i want to have lots of stuff in the same console) [02:08] Razor-X: thanks. thanks for the history too [02:09] is there a way to do a fsck , on ubuntu, but whitout having it mounted ? [02:09] MMond, there are literally dozens of editors you can play with [02:09] MMond: there's lots you can't do without cp, cd, mv, and rm, trust me :) [02:09] Cokey: mkdir ~/.nget5 [02:09] Cokey: then retry [02:09] type that in? === Bachus9000 [n=Bachus90@pcp01053787pcs.muncie01.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] Cokey: yep [02:09] JonasNorman: no problem, it was for a project (self-project, that is) where I compiled all the popular command-line text editors [02:09] can someone tell me what version of debian uses the same kernel as ubuntu? [02:09] sethk:yeah, there's nothing wrong w/ using both for sure. i used to be a fairly devout emacs user but i didn't find myself using the super-rad functionality of emacs very often, and i was much more efficient w/ vim [02:09] Well I'm confounded . . . I don't feel very limited, I don't know what lies beyond! I'll be back in a few -- and I'll google the rest while [02:10] MMond: good luck [02:10] yuri_: none of them afaik [02:10] JonasNorman: compiled a list, of course :) [02:10] cmatheson, these days I do use vim much more often. But if you want your macro to branch based on a condition, or anything similar, it's back to emacs for me. [02:10] is there a way to do a fsck , on ubuntu, but whitout having it mounted ? [02:10] Razor-X: lol [02:10] another borked CD [02:10] cmatheson, regular expression search and replace is at least 10 X faster with vim than with emacs [02:10] I'm going to 4.10 [02:10] Ill apt-get [02:10] B_166-ER: you could run 'mount -o remount,ro / && fsck -f /dev/blah' [02:10] and also, joe is a deviant from wordstar, and nano is a deviant from pico, and you have other little emacs/vi clones that have slipped the cracks, like elVis (for Windows, I believe) and jemacs, joe equipped with emacs keybinds [02:10] cmatheson: im trying to install ati drivers and the wiki said to choose "ubuntu." in this driver ubuntu is not an option... its slightly newer [02:11] have I just walked in on an editor war? :) [02:11] yea that works [02:11] sethk: oh man i sure like that regexp search [02:11] but thats f#cked! === cafuego [n=cafuego@ppp83-238.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] i have no idea how to use that? [02:11] SuperSox: nope, I was just explaining the different editors, their advantages, and disadvantages :) [02:11] hm === Rubin is now known as Rubin[work] [02:11] yuri_: hmm, not sure... i don't have an ati card... but i would say the chances aren't good unless you can compile it yourself [02:11] Seveas: Still awake? [02:11] and how come wine doesnt work with powerpc? [02:11] cmatheson, emacs has it, but it is very very slow. I haven't bothered to figure out why. === wildman [n=fabman@54-200-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu === korhalf [n=chris@d150-171-64.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] Cokey: yeah, i guessed so, that's why i suggested klibido :P [02:11] Cokey: it probably relies on x86-specific code [02:11] Razor-X: hehe :) [02:11] sethk: that's wild. i didn't know my regular expressions back in my emacs days [02:12] emacs regexps are truly horrible :) [02:12] cmatheson: damn. ive been trying to set up my card for months [02:12] shitty === mahangu [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] I use sed for my regexps, plain and simple [02:12] but, emacs macros make up for that [02:12] yuri_: why not just use the ubuntu-packges? [02:12] there are no progs that use GUI for .nzb d.ling? [02:12] cmatheson: they dont work [02:12] Cokey: a breezy upgrade will mean that klibido can be installed - it's GUI === Trash[impersonat is now known as Trashcan [02:12] yuri_: hmm, that is trouble [02:13] huh? [02:13] what does that mean? [02:13] Cokey: hoary and breezy are releases of ubuntu (April '05 and October '05 respectively) [02:13] i see [02:13] im using a live c [02:13] d [02:13] so how does that work === [1] Mr [n=mephis19@b-209-217.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #Ubuntu [02:14] make a new cd? [02:14] Can someone explain the sounds my Ubuntu is making? [02:14] what are they [02:14] Cokey: you want an install CD === Dido- [n=9@193.68.201.169] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] but i run mac tiger [02:14] Cokey: it'll work on PPC also [02:14] i dont really know how to make a partition for mac.....and im kinda scared === qhoore [n=qhoore@222.124.77.12] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] what will? [02:14] Cokey: ah, yeah, I was the first time too [02:14] Cokey: The installer can resize your HFS+ partition. [02:15] to what i want it to? [02:15] Cokey: of course, I gained my courage formatting an older machine about 9 times :) === svu [n=svu@host-194-46-238-28.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] Cokey: the installer should partition everything up for you [02:15] using diskutility? [02:15] o [02:15] Cokey: That said, you should still back up all your data before starting. [02:15] Cokey: it only gets finicky with NTFS, which is a Windows FS [02:15] does anyone have this instal file "ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run" from the ati website? there is a new version on the site and i need this one [02:15] but when you partition, it also formats the disk doesnt it [02:15] yeah, listen to cafuego :) [02:15] Cokey: no, disk utility can't do that without destroying stuff. [02:15] Cokey: The 'parted' utility on the Linux install CD can do it. [02:15] Cokey: no, most utilities don't format when repartitioning, they can resize partitions [02:16] which means it earases everything [02:16] no? [02:16] i thought it did [02:16] guys qcalc does a good job it type the root sign etc. [02:16] Cokey: disk utility? yes. [02:16] yea [02:16] you can make a partition that way? [02:16] Cokey: nope, it takes the free space, and allocates it to another parition, but listen to cafuego when he says that disk utility formats everything === ooev_away [i=ooev@pcp08604437pcs.cnclrk01.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:16] Cokey: yes, but not whilst keeping your data, it will wipe EVERYTHING. [02:16] i see === ooev [i=ooev@pcp08604437pcs.cnclrk01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] Cokey: you're going to want to use a utility from either the Live CD, or simply use the included partitioner on the installer, do NOT use disk utility [02:17] well i can back up everything to my external correct [02:17] Cokey: of course [02:17] Cokey: There is a payware tool (iPartition) that will resize and save data... [02:17] how many cd's is ubuntu? [02:17] 1 [02:17] Cokey: 1 :) [02:17] and does it come with its own boot strap? [02:17] really? [02:17] Cokey: if you're happy to backup and reinstall OSX plus all your apps, you can use disk util, yes. [02:17] install also? [02:17] Cokey: yeah, it does [02:17] Cokey: yeah [02:17] nasty [02:17] Cokey: well, no [02:17] Cokey: ubuntu comes on one CD, but... [02:17] !dstats breezy [02:17] Cokey: Just one === liquidboy [n=liquidbo@210-55-81-34.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] Cokey: Live and Install are two CDs [02:18] But we are working on it for Dapper [02:18] Kyral: hmmm... really? [02:18] there needs to be an Ubuntu DVD [02:18] d'oh! [02:18] with everything possible on it [02:18] Razor-X: Really [02:18] so when i first start up my mac a box will come up to boot into linux or osx tiger? [02:18] I'm going to have to disagree on that point then [02:18] siriusnova: not everyone has a DVD Burner [02:18] I think that a dedicated Ubuntu CD is best [02:18] true Kyral [02:18] Cokey: ... there is a LOT more stuff available online, you cna get up to a few tens of GB if you really want *everything* === Fujoor [n=di1fata@shell.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] siriusnova: plus, a theory of mine is that, we've exceeded that ``golden ratio'' [02:19] what do you mean "everything"? [02:19] Razor-X: huh? [02:19] Cokey: Debian is on 30 CDs [02:19] i just want to make a 4GB partition and run both on my mac === [1] Mr [n=mephis19@b-209-217.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #Ubuntu [02:19] THink about it ;P [02:19] siriusnova: the point at which the time it takes to distribute meaningful software programs over average bandwidth becomes short [02:19] Cokey: Yes, it will give you a bootloader that allows you to choose between 'x' and 'l'. if you choose 'l', it will allow you to pick a Linux kernel, then boots. [02:19] nice, and x is tiger? [02:19] siriusnova: with the advent of DVDs, we've again lost our Golden Ratio, it'll have to wait again for the bandwidth catches up [02:19] indeed [02:19] Cokey: X is your GUI system [02:19] Cokey: and 'c' is boot from cd. [02:19] lol [02:19] 30 cd's ... for those people who just don't like that whole "internet" thing [02:19] word [02:20] Razor-X: shut up [02:20] CD-Rs are becoming like Floppies of old :D [02:20] cafuego: .... ok [02:20] so i should d/l the install disk then? [02:20] and run the disk and it'll partition for me [02:20] Ubuntu Sounds - Can anyone answer a question? [02:20] cpare: what sounds lol [02:20] Cokey: No, you should install Tiger first. [02:20] Kyral: yeah, but it takes two days on average bandwidth to downlad a DVD [02:20] has anyone here gotten their WEP working? [02:20] and is there an alternative? === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has left #ubuntu [] [02:20] Razor-X: Thats why I said its on CD [02:20] anyone knows where gaim' smileys image files are stored ? [02:20] i already have it installed [02:20] wep works fine for me Flashmatt === currios84 [n=me@d054158.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] Razor-X: the combined disc will be a CD [02:20] Kyral: I know, I meant that for siriusnova [02:20] Cokey: Well, fetch and burn the Ubuntu install CD, then boot the Tiger DVD and install. [02:21] siriusnova: did you do anything special to get it working? [02:21] Kryal: My Ubuntu laptop makes random noises sometimes [02:21] install tiger? [02:21] whats the problem Flashmatt - are you on a laptop? [02:21] mine bites me sometimes :/ [02:21] siriusnova: currently, yes, but the PC is running ubuntu [02:21] again? === avb [n=avb@81.25.36.240] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] cpare: so does mine lol, its like the CD Drive [02:21] Cokey: yes, i understand, but you can't repartition without wiping, unless you use the Linux tools (and though they work, I can't guarantee 100% they won't mess up tiger anyway) [02:21] cafuego: but if Cokey already has tiger he can resize during the ubuntu install? [02:21] Kryal: like perhaps the wireless card is on [02:21] mine is REALY nasty [02:21] sometimes it boots Windows [02:21] Kryal: or perhaps someone has connected [02:21] cafuego: nvm :) [02:22] right [02:22] Kryal: not a hardware sound === visita [n=visita@201-27-48-62.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] thats what im asking [02:22] i disabled acpi and pnpbios with acpi=off and pnpbios=off because I have a Thinkpad 600E whose ACPI is badly broken, without acpi and pnpbios off I couldnt get a dhcp lease from the dhcp server [02:22] Kryal: :) [02:22] if i just run the install CD === ClayG [n=scdsc@c-66-177-234-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] Cokey: So either way, start by backup up EVERYTHING :-) [02:22] ai blz galera [02:22] cpare: without hearing the sound its hard to diagnose lol [02:22] obviously [02:22] then put in the install cd for ubuntu [02:22] ? [02:22] Kryal: or perhaps the wireless card is finding a base station [02:22] i also disabled plug and play in the bios [02:22] siriusnova: when you do an *iwlist scan* does your router show that the encryption is on or off? [02:23] Cokey: Then with aprted, in the install, just resize the Tiger partition and leave a few GB of free space. [02:23] I checked the sounds, but none mapped are the sound I am getting [02:23] gkk [02:23] ola [02:23] "Briiip" [02:23] good evening [02:23] Cokey: Then you cna tell the installer to use that free space to auto-partition for Linux [02:23] aprted? [02:23] alguem abras espanhol? === qhoore is now known as XNewbie [02:23] Flashmatt - it says Encryption Key: on [02:23] Kryal: "Vriiip" [02:23] lol [02:23] siriusnova: mine says off even though it's on [02:24] visita: #ubuntu-es [02:24] siriusnova: I think my router is the problematic one [02:24] Flashmatt - then its the router [02:24] because iwlist scan reports what the router is putting out [02:24] td biem? [02:24] siriusnova: someone recommended to change the WEP setting to "open" on the router, but to no avail :( === g47o [n=g47o@pc-145-4-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu === g47o [n=g47o@pc-145-4-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === brdweb [n=mitch@dsl092-173-023.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] any other ideas, (hopefully)!!! [02:24] Flashmatt - what kind of router is it? [02:24] ? === pluffsy [n=emil@h42n2fls34o1118.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu === Milk_ [n=amshake@12-221-188-111.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] ok im d/ling the install cd now [02:24] visita: Yo no hablo espanol bien :P [02:24] BEFW11S4 [02:24] hello [02:24] I have a lil question, really whats the difference between all the available terminals? aterm, eterm, xterm etc ...? is it just the looks? [02:24] linksys [02:25] good afternoon [02:25] is there anywhere faster i can get it from then the website? [02:25] eer evening [02:25] Fujoor: some options [02:25] kyral: for example? [02:25] Fujoor: Like most of everything in Linux, a matter of option [02:25] anyone any idea if xorg is getting updated to 6.9 anytime soon? [02:25] does anyone have a recomendation other than chkrootkit or panda antivirus to check for nasties on my ubuntu box? Its behaving strangly [02:25] soi de Brasil === sexcopter8000m [n=james@dslb-082-083-192-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] kyral: can all of them for example run in transparent mode? [02:25] are there any terminal application one can use that lets you input a date and outputs a timestamp? I keep writing simple php-scripts to get timestamps, and it isn't very effective. [02:26] Fujoor: "True" transparency cannnot be done without Compositing [02:26] no, but the fake one then? [02:26] Fujoor: Yes, all support them [02:26] !pt === MHobbit [n=MHobbit@phpbb/modifications/MHobbit] has left #ubuntu ["Bye."] [02:26] oh, neat, so its really a matter of which one you prefer, neither of them is worse or better? [02:26] Fujoor: Its like the different WMs, all do basically the same thing but different [02:26] Fujoor: Bingo! [02:26] is there anywhere i can get an install guide and print out before i try this? === maggard [n=icechat5@host-67-131-49-232.fewpb.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] Cokey: Actually thats my job for Dapper....lol [02:27] ok.. more specific... neither the update or firestarter tray icons are working [02:27] Flashmatt - i bet its the router [02:27] vc es h ou m? [02:27] read the manual [02:27] it might help [02:27] huh? [02:27] !es [02:27] ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/manuals/befw11s4ug.pdf [02:27] damn where is the bot [02:28] kyral, you do what/ [02:28] kyral es h ou m? === lisa_ [n=lisa@adsl-68-95-148-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] what is a good dc++ for ubuntu? [02:28] visita, #ubuntu-pt [02:28] Hey all [02:28] what is pt? [02:28] siriusnova: I'll keep digging... === funkyHat [n=matt@cpc3-nthc3-3-1-cust65.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] siriusnova: thanks though... [02:28] Cokey: g++? [02:28] any ideas? [02:28] dc++ [02:28] direct connect [02:29] Direct Connect [02:29] something with a k.... [02:29] Kyral: The bots host's international link died 15 minutes ago [02:29] i think === benplaut [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush3@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [02:29] Cokey: dcgui [02:29] I have a quick question (I'm new to Linux) [02:30] lisa_: this is what all use Gurus are here for [02:30] Keep in mind we are very opinionated Gurus ;P [02:30] when I installed today it didn't ask me for a super user account [02:30] lisa_: sudo [02:30] ubotu tell.....damnit [02:30] dammit! [02:30] correct lisa_ [02:31] thats the ubuntu way [02:31] Oh deary deary me [02:31] have we not documented sudo or something? [02:31] siriusnova: do you recommend me doing a mac filter instead? [02:31] cmatheson: we have [02:31] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] now their subnet with dns servers has done poo as well [02:31] yes, then it asks for my pass which when I type in my user pass it doesn't like it [02:31] Cokey: valknut ? [02:31] lisa_: wiki.ubuntu.com:RootSudo [02:31] can someone help me setup apache2 and php5? for some reason, I cannot get it to work. I have tried, but to no avail. [02:31] poor ubotu...please resurrect him, cafuego [02:32] cafuego: yes! === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #ubuntu === cafuego can't; must wait for the datacenter monkeys [02:32] ahhh yea === B_166-ER-X [n=oli@c207.134.134-180.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] thats the one [02:32] cool, thanks Kyral [02:32] any one that will really work tho === tristanmike [n=tristan@blk-224-251-101.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] cafuego: you should mirror Ubotu :P [02:32] doesnt matter to me === tritium feeds the datacenter monkeys bananas... [02:32] and where do i find the prog after its install from synaptic? [02:32] cafuego: probably related but ubuntu.cc.com.au not working either :| [02:32] does nautilus run in the background normally? === t1n_m4n [n=lotus@cpe-24-194-132-157.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] anyone done it? [02:33] bimberi: same box [02:33] cafuego: oops, nvm, working now :) [02:33] I really can't get php5 and apache2 to work together [02:33] bimberi: Well, it works for *me* [02:33] newb here. Any idea why ubuntu install freezes on the 'starting the partitioner' phase? [02:33] any netscape for ubuntu? [02:33] pc22, firefox [02:33] NETSCAPE?! Now thats a name I haven't heard in LONG time [02:33] Obi Wan? Now thats a name... [02:34] lol === ChUckev [n=riise@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] whenever I try and go to a php file, it prompts me to *download* it instead of actually running it on the server. please, please, help me. [02:34] tritium, some sites wont allow me view without IE or netscape [02:34] hows that? [02:34] pc22: Idiot web developers. [02:34] pc22: But firefox should still work just fine. === NeverDream [n=neva@cpe-071-068-072-046.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] pc22: well, that's the downside of linux. [02:34] cafuego: i did have problems earlier, honest [02:34] maxkelley: go look at the php documentation, you haven't set it up yet === Mabus06 [n=Nick@hlfxns0149w-142177159200.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] !repaircd [02:35] bimberi: it should now have stopped working again, too. [02:35] maxkelley: no, its WebDevs being complete idiots === rabidsnail [n=macos@pool-151-197-230-51.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] cmatheson: I have apache2, php5, libapache2-mod-php5 all installed [02:35] cafuego: yeah i noticed, but wasn't going to mention it again :P === ChUckev is now known as Jansen [02:35] maxkelley: k, but that doesn't mean you've set it up [02:35] can someone point me where to get a 'repair' or 'boot' cd to FSCK a linux install ? [02:35] I installed Kubuntu with apt, but I've decided I don't like it, is there a way i can remove it all without manually selecing each package? [02:35] B_166-ER-X: the live cd, or knoppix === Jansen is now known as jansen === cold [n=cold@ool-182d3912.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] B_166-ER-X: You can use the Install CD === cafuego is just glad none of his clients have started calling in yet [02:35] has anyone ever had a problem with the firestarter tray icon? [02:36] i have the live, and install, but..how ? [02:36] B_166-ER-X: just boot off it and then run 'fsck /dev/foobar' === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031219.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === korhalf is now known as eternalist [02:36] there is a Memtest on the live but i didnt see fsck [02:36] B_166-ER-X: boot off of it, and then open up a command-line [02:36] B_166-ER-X: boot with "rescue" [02:36] hrm.. none of my tray icons are working [02:36] livecd can fsck for sure, B_166-ER-X (I've had to use it) [02:37] instead of hitting enter [02:37] cmatheson: where is the documentation for php? on the ubuntu site or php.net ? === tipnmo [n=ian@c-67-171-159-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] i just apt-got mercury, its installed, appearantly, but when i look for a menu addition, theres none, and typeing mercury or man mercury at the terminal does nothing... how do i launch mercury? [02:37] M_Cheevy: /b === Paradosso [n=Paradoss@host200-68.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] what is mercury? [02:37] maxkelley: /usr/share/doc/ always has documentation, or you could look at the documentation on php's site, or search the wiki [02:37] How do I remove Kubuntu from apt?! [02:37] a messenger client for MSN === rich_ [n=JonasNor@65-78-84-33.c5-0.atw-ubr1.atw.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] I'm trying to install a Linksys WUSB11 with ndiswrapper, and after I ndiswrapper -i all of the inf files, and ndiswrapper -l says drivers installed, hardware present, when I open network settings it can't find the adapter [02:37] varsendagger: yet another version control system [02:37] NeverDream: Remove? [02:37] yeah === phyburn [n=phyburn@pool-71-105-28-228.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] its supposed to be just as good as msn 7.0 in windows [02:37] rabidsnail: sudo ndiswrapper -m :P [02:38] I jsut dont see what you mean...when i boot with the Live cd, for instance, i gives me a Boot: (enter for live system) [02:38] did that [02:38] I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but I don't want it [02:38] its there i should write rescue ? [02:38] what would be a good program to run .exe ? [02:38] rabidsnail: then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper [02:38] B_166-ER-X: maybe you should hit enter then [02:38] Chris_Tucker: So it runs when you don't want it to and gets you spammed? [02:38] phyburn: Wine [02:38] did that too [02:38] NeverDream: aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop [02:38] rabidsnail: iwconfig? [02:38] Kyral it wont let me download it off apt-get [02:38] comes up with nothing [02:38] .... [02:38] cmatheson, and once in live systeme...whats the use ? [02:38] my wireless card is dropping connection at will. What is weird is it doesn't disconnect. if a connection is persistent, it stays "on". it drops the inactive ones. any clues? === optish [n=optish@d57-250-26.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] cafuego, dont know, i havent had that prob with msn 7.0 and havent gotten mercury to run yet :S [02:38] B_166-ER-X: you can run fsck from the command-line [02:38] "no wireless extensions" [02:38] cmatheson, i tried [02:39] it just gived me a number version [02:39] Kyral its giving me a referred to error [02:39] 1.38 or something [02:39] B_166-ER-X: man fsck === marky [n=marky@84.12.195.57] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] phyburn: why would you need Apt for .exe [02:39] hey all i'm back [02:39] phyburn: msttcorefonts? [02:39] it only removed the meta-package [02:39] how do I install video codecs for ubuntu live? [02:39] just ironing out my install on a d600 [02:39] arrr === yi [i=yi@rollright.bmsc.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] how would i launch mercury? [02:39] i dont see at all ... :\ [02:39] wei_li in usr/lib [02:40] Kyral, what do you mean 'boot with 'rescue' ? [02:40] Kyral no im trying to `apt-get install wine` but it wont let me [02:40] Chris_Tucker: if no one is answering it may be because no one knows [02:40] usr/lib/win32 [02:40] marky: usr/lib? [02:40] what's the trick to getting firestarter working dnsmasq? [02:40] marky: oh ok... thanks [02:40] :) glad to be of help === felipe__ [n=felipe@201.246.249.116] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] cmatheson, or no one sees it that knows, which is more likely. i have used irc for many years, i know in a room such as this it is easy to miss any thing [02:40] i only learnt that the other day in here === maggard [n=icechat5@host-67-131-49-232.fewpb.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:41] phyburn: what type of processor (wine only runs on i386)? === treefrog [n=treefrog@62.231.60.201] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] B_166-ER-X: Yanno when you load it it stops and you have to hit enter to continue? === regetz [n=regetz@chewbacca.nceas.ucsb.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] yep.. [02:41] Boot: (enter for live system) [02:41] now type "rescue" === Dmon [n=dmon@81-234-129-72-o824.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] and hit enter [02:42] hm [02:42] okay [02:42] i'll try [02:42] w/o the ": [02:42] err [02:42] i have manage to get dhcp3-server working with firestarter and connection sharing but i am unable to get dnsmasq to work with firestarter [02:42] w/o the "" === jansen [n=riise@202.95.133.10] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === SoBeAC [n=andrew@chtrmb-174-220.the-beach.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] yeah :P [02:42] thx [02:42] bimberi yup it is [02:42] hey anyone know how to set a screen resolution that isn't listed on the screen resolution program? [02:43] Kyral I have another question if you have time [02:43] SoBeAC: sounds like X is configured wrong [02:43] bimberi: `Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. [02:43] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [02:43] is only available from another source [02:43] ` === Kuyaedz [n=Crister@65.106.115.194.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] lisa_: not really but shoot === Killer_Smurf [n=Killer_S@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] Bimberi its just that standard message [02:43] anybody know how to get 3gp video files from nokia phones to run on ubuntu? i got the video but no sound in vlc and in xine === liquidboy [n=liquidbo@210-55-81-37.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] how i say to ppp not start with ubunto and start adsl-init ( i have this adsl-init in /etc/init.d/ ) [02:44] SoBeAC, what do you mean by "Screen resolution program"? [02:44] phyburn: you need the universe repository enabled === ChUckev [n=riise@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] phyburn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [02:45] sorry, haven't used irc in years, forget how to send private messages...the screen resolution program under the system menu === will_ [n=will@c-67-175-136-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] SoBeAC: you're going to have to reconfigure X === hondje [n=hondje@c-67-164-180-126.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] I have a cisco VPN client I have to install to connect to my office === mcjerry [n=mcjerry@ip68-99-175-230.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] lisa_: I know nothing about VPN [02:46] Bimeri ok thanks [02:46] acn u help me with init scrips === will_ is now known as copilot [02:47] ok, it's cool, thanks === constantine-xvi [n=andrew@12-208-79-240.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] !christel:*! Hi all! Interested in the discussion and support of copylefts? We all are, and we are familiar with (but not limited to) CC, GPL, LGPL, Apache and BSD style licenses! Why not join us in ##copyleft ? [02:47] ok I'll give it a shot, thanks [02:47] phyburn: np :) === livinded [n=livinded@cpe-66-75-91-108.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] is there anyway of seeing all the services running and stiopping the un necisary ones? [02:47] marky: top [02:48] sorry , still not used to laptop keyboards and its dark in here === copilot [n=will@c-67-175-136-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] how do I install video codecs for ubuntu live i have no idea what is ment by usr/lib/win32 [02:48] D: [02:48] how do i change the language for my session in gnome/ubuntu? [02:48] marky: (or ps if you're looking for something less interactive) [02:48] i'm having some problems connecting to my wireless access point using a server install and xubuntu, it doesn't seem to see it though i can see it with kismet [02:48] ptlo: you can choose it from a menu in gdm iirc [02:48] Wei_Li, u need to add a extra repository === david [n=david@foran-304b.rutgers.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] ? [02:48] mettallicat: how do i do that? [02:48] cmatheson: oh, ok; is there a way to apply the change without restarting the session? [02:48] Wei_Li, w8 a sec [02:48] mettallicat: ok === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] livinded is it the ath card? [02:49] marky: System -> Administration -> Services [02:49] atheros D-link DWL-G6500 [02:49] 650 or 6500 [02:49] How do i install an IRC client in SuSE? It doesnt come with one. [02:49] ptlo: not that i know of... however you may be able to start apps in a different language from the command line (e.g 'LANG=zh_TW LC_ALL=zh_TW LOCALE=... some_program') === shaolin [n=Rufino@c-67-161-180-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] oh sorry, 650 [02:49] seife: wrong channel [02:49] bimberi is that all of the services running? [02:49] seife: Wrong Channel indeed [02:49] sorry [02:50] seife: But I would look in Yast [02:50] cmatheson: that's what i'm looking for, thannks [02:50] i'm not sure if i'm using the commands wrong or why its not working [02:50] ok iwlist ath0 scan === rafx [n=rafx@adsl-64-108-215-162.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === mr_lampe [n=la@dslb-084-056-134-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] let me know on the other channel [02:50] Wei_Li, just add to your sources.list [02:50] interface doesn't support scanning [02:50] or pm me [02:50] seife: either use gaim or google "xchat rpm suse" [02:50] deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free [02:50] deb-src ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free [02:51] marky: no, just the main ones. Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor gives a complete list [02:51] I have the same card try sudo iwlist ath0 sacn [02:51] Killer_Smurf, i'm in sudo su right now === B_166-ER-X [n=oli@c66.110.148-62.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] constantine-xvi thx. === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] bimberi thanks [02:52] marky: np :) [02:52] Wei_Li, then make apt-get update and apt-get install w32codecs [02:52] seife: youre welcome [02:52] my wireless card is dropping connection at will. What is weird is it doesn't disconnect. if a connection is persistent, it stays "on". it drops the inactive ones. any clues? [02:53] ok i'll try that out thanks mettallicat === B1zz [n=cgomez@69-169-94-167.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:53] for a p4 w/ hyper threading should i use the 686-smp kernel ? [02:53] bimberi do you know anything about the network configuration in ubuntu? i can sometimes surf my windows network, but it wants me to join a domain instead of a workgroup , any ideas? [02:53] anyone using dnsmasq here? [02:54] the browser doesn't connect, though the irc goes thru. it's not an issue with the router, because my other machine is able to connect [02:54] hello hello [02:54] Is there a SIMPLE way to FSCK a system without it being mounted ? [02:54] B_166-ER-X: fsck [02:54] marky: just put in workgroup name and use a user/pass on the target [02:54] B_166-ER-X: You HAVE to fsck when its unmounted [02:54] Kyral, i tried the 'rescue' logging in the live cd... but then it ask me on what partition i want to log === AtlantisX [n=Test@dslb-084-061-116-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] I can i know this. [02:55] arr [02:55] on the tar? [02:55] B_166-ER-X: whichever is normally mounted as / [02:55] Kyral, i'm on the system i want to check, and it IS mounted. [02:55] B_166-ER-X: well you're going to have to know which partition if you plan on fsck'ing it [02:55] but was not. [02:55] i had 4 ou 5 choices [02:55] marky: yeah [02:55] B_166-ER-X: uhh....then try a LiveCD [02:55] that was with live cd. [02:55] marky: target == destination [02:56] hi [02:56] I've got this very problem [02:56] http://fetchmail.berlios.de/fetchmail-FAQ.html#R9 [02:56] any solution for ubuntu breezy? [02:56] this happends when i got to Places/network servers === DeMoNSeEd [n=DeMoN@toronto-HSE-ppp4001011.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] Paradosso, no need to use the enter key as punctuation [02:56] yeah [02:56] hello === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-64-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] sorry tritium [02:57] Paradosso: sounds like a problem w/ your network, not breezy === sled [n=sled@adsl-84-226-59-182.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] no worries, Paradosso === avb [n=avb@81.25.36.240] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:57] my network connection works like a charm [02:57] Paradosso: my fetchmail works like a charm [02:57] marky: just use "guest" and "", and domain==workgroup, that should do it [02:57] Hello everybody. I see you're quite busy, but I need some information concerning Ubuntu install. Does anyone have the time to help me? ^^ [02:57] how does one launch mercury after apt-get installing mercury? [02:57] so does mine until the MAIL FROM line :) [02:58] AtlantisX: just ask your questions [02:58] never ceases to amaze me that people say "my network has a problem" and then say "no, my network works perfectly" [02:58] AtlantisX: ill take care of you [02:58] Chris_Tucker: stop asking the same question over and over. mercury is not an instant messenger if you apt-get installed it [02:58] What's the best way to have commands run at startup? I tried adding something to the session startup, but it ended up preventing me from logging in. [02:58] Problem is the following: I want to install Ubuntu but I heave no drives for anything, only LAN... -.- === livinded [n=livinded@cpe-66-75-91-108.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === mitey [n=ubuntu@ip24-255-220-238.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] *have [02:58] i have someone who thinking of trying ubuntu, but he has dual heads and dual cards, 1 nvidia and the other radeon, will this be possible to run dual heads on ubuntu [02:58] i havn't got a domain , i use a workgroup instead ,but i can't find where to congue it [02:58] AtlantisX: you could try the livecd? [02:59] AtlantisX: as in only a net card, no cd or anything? [02:59] DeMoNSeEd: yes [02:59] AtlantisX: not even a floppy? [02:59] cmatheson and sethk, I can fetch mail with thunderbird, so I don't think it is a network issue. Besides, the faw itself says it is a sendmail problem [02:59] cmatheson: No, I don't have any drives at all... xD [02:59] Pop Tarts = AWesome [02:59] anythingspecial he'll have to do, so i can tell him in advance, he's burning the iso as we speak [02:59] AtlantisX: that could be a problem [02:59] Paradosso, the URL you posted for problem #9 says that it is a network problem [02:59] Paradosso, did you mispost? [02:59] AtlantisX: yeowza, check out the edubuntu project maybe... that's dealing w/ the linux-terminal-server-project which sounds like just the thing for you [02:59] That is the problem, I wasn wondering if there was a USB stick instal or something. [03:00] Paradosso: look into mtu size [03:00] AtlantisX: i dont think ubuntu is net-boot === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] Paradosso, the word "sendmail" doesn't occur [03:00] Chris_Tucker: AtlantisX Edubuntu comes with it I THINK === oscar_ [n=oscar@200-153-135-155.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] AtlantisX: hmm, search digg.com or something... i think i saw an article like that recently [03:00] Paradosso, if you don't mean R9, what do you mean? [03:00] AtlantisX: can you steal the cd drive out of another machine? [03:00] http://fetchmail.berlios.de/fetchmail-FAQ.html#H2 [03:00] sorry [03:00] cmatheson: I have an Ubuntu PC in the LAN, could that help? [03:00] AtlantisX: You may wanna try #edubuntu [03:01] AtlantisX: or do you not have a HD? [03:01] AtlantisX: yes, i would check out edubuntu and/or ltsp [03:01] constantine-xvi: It's no lack of drives, my damn old notebook just doesn't have any slots... xD [03:01] ah [03:01] cmatheson, is there anything special he needs to install right off for the dual head dual card [03:01] how do i configure it to a workgroup not a domain? anyone? [03:01] Paradosso, ok, that's a different problem, but I still see nothing there about sendmail [03:01] DeMoNSeEd: no, you'll just have to configure X... google for linux dual-head it's pretty easy [03:02] And only 10gigs HD but that should do for the basic stuff... -.- [03:02] Paradosso: sounds like your MTA is configured wrong... which one are you using? [03:02] k thank you....add another 1 to the world of ubuntu [03:02] AtlantisX: net connection? [03:02] I'll check edubuntu... [03:02] constantine-xvi: 6mbit DSL [03:02] AtlantisX: there might be a method here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation [03:02] AtlantisX: as in ethernet [03:02] yup [03:02] cmatheson, I use procmail === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] and sendmail [03:03] Paradosso: that's not your mta [03:03] constantine-xvi: 100mbit LAN, why? [03:03] good [03:03] Paradosso: it's going to be exim, or sendmail, or postfix, or something like that === antix [i=antix@ip70-177-80-4.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] is gnome-look.org down forever ? [03:03] AtlantisX: not ubuntu, but some other net-bootable distro [03:03] cmatheson, he said sendmail, just on a different line :) [03:03] I configured /etc/postfix/main.cf [03:03] techrush: i think the new site may be art.gnome.org [03:03] sethk: oh woops [03:04] Paradosso, now you've said you use sendmail, but that you use postfix [03:04] Paradosso, pick one, only one [03:04] hmm ok [03:04] I thought it was the same! === nekostar [n=starz@cpe-24-24-137-48.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] Paradosso, they are two different programs [03:04] Paradosso: they are both mta's but they're very far from being the same [03:04] so how do I decide which one to use? [03:04] er [03:04] Paradosso, you may be confused by the fact that many MTAs including postfix and qmail have a program _called_ sendmail [03:05] mail configuration is hell for a newbie :( [03:05] Paradosso: just pick one and go w/ it... you could just stick w/ the default of exim [03:05] Paradosso, to preserve compatibility with brain dead apps that assume sendmail is the only MTA In the universe [03:05] Paradosso: they come /w pretty sensible defaults === antix [i=antix@ip70-177-80-4.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] === AtlantisX checks the ideas so far... >-< Gimme a few minutes. [03:05] AtlantisX: gentoo has a netboot install, but gentoo is also a very involved and hard to install distro from what ive heard. you might be up to the challenge [03:05] so my cd rom is complaining it wont mount as user so its borked?? [03:05] how can i tell it to chill the fark out [03:05] Paradosso, you started off saying you have a problem with fetchmail. That likely has nothing whatsoever to do with MTA [03:05] cmatheson, sethk : the thing is I don't know how to let my machine know which one I want to use [03:05] hi all. I just installed the ATI drivers for my ATI 9550 card but when i run tuxracer its still laggy(no 3d acceleration) any idea what to do next? [03:06] Paradosso: sudo aptitude install some_mail_transfer_agent [03:06] constantine-xvi: That's why I usually prefer Ubuntu. xD [03:06] I have both sendmail and postfix installed [03:06] Paradosso: how did you manage that? [03:06] Paradosso, yes, I understand that both are installed. [03:06] B1zz: go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change xserver from ati to fglrx [03:06] !_! [03:06] it was by default on ubuntu breezy [03:06] Paradosso, but your fetchmail problem has nothing to do with MTA configuration [03:06] B1zz, you installed the fglrx ubuntu packages? === fushi [n=fushi@68-168-218-86.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] sethk, the faq says: "The hang is actually occuring when sendmail looks up a sender's address in DNS. The problem isn't in fetchmail but in the configuration of sendmail." [03:07] so I assume it is actually a sendmail problem [03:07] does anyone know a fix for broken automounting of usb devices? [03:07] no sir i did not === roughtrader [n=roughtra@ip-64-32-191-88.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] synackuator: how is it broken? [03:07] i got the drivers from the ATI site [03:07] anyone willing to help me with procmail+fetchmail? will mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %s" in .fetchmailrc do the trick? [03:07] oik [03:07] B1zz, you should use the ubuntu packages [03:07] Paradosso, no, that makes no sense at all === mettallicat is away: sleeping ZZZzzZZZ [03:08] cmatheson, i can plug in usb devices all day and it won't automount them. i have to mount them manually === goose [n=goose@unaffiliated/goose] has joined #ubuntu === B-166_ER-X [n=oli@c66.110.147-28.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] B1zz, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto [03:08] synackuator: try typing gnome-volume-manager in a terminal [03:08] sethk, it's just what the faq says, I am completely confused by now === aaron [n=aaron@pool-71-96-12-84.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] will do chief === Ne0phyt3 [n=johndoe@nat01-hardenburgh-ext.Rutgers.EDU] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] synackuator: hmm, i don't know... it always worked for me when i used gnome... now i don't run gnome so i do it manually too (that is the way i prefer) [03:08] gonna try that right now [03:08] hey, i was wondering if someone could help me out, i installed kubuntu or ubuntu 2.6.12-90-386, and by accident through adept i selected to remove gcc 4.01 (i think that was the package name) and it started uninstalling programs like adept, acpi, etc.. [03:08] sethk: u a fetchmail/procmail guru? [03:08] i closed it because i realized what was going on, is there any way to get these back without reinstalling? [03:08] Paradosso, fetchmail talks to POP and IMAP servers. MTAs implement SMTP. One is a mail client protocol, the other is a mail server protocol === Dido- [n=9@193.68.201.169] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] good luck, B1zz [03:09] robotgeek, I'm good with email in general. I've used fetchmail, but I don't know everything in the world about it. [03:09] I see sethk === WebMaven [n=webmaven@ip68-104-53-190.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] sethk: do you have filtering with procmail? do i make sense at all? [03:09] when I run fetchmail -v, the hang arises after the SMTP MAIL FROM line === slashx1896 [n=slashx@pcp03325591pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] Paradosso, what I would do in your situation is to use strace to find out exactly why fetchmail fails. But the output of strace can be difficult to interpret. [03:09] sethk: might fetchmail be using the mta to deliver mail locally? === KissMyAssDblHash [n=LiloSuks@c-67-174-209-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] tritium: good to see some people know authority when they read it :) [03:09] anyone have any ideas? === bulio [n=bulio@unaffiliated/bulio] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] robotgeek, already running [03:09] robotgeek, yes, you make sense. I usually use maildrop, which is like procmail but not quite as complex. [03:09] : always trying to run a FSCK, i'm on another Pc now \ on four, there was only one partition i was able to log on, and when trying to fsck, it says that it IS mounted and dangerous ect.. [03:09] do I run apt-get update or apt-get dist-update first? [03:09] robotgeek, but the concept of filtering is perfectly clear [03:10] wasnt that Supposed to PREVENT that ? [03:10] bimberi, heh ;) [03:10] when upgrading to ubuntu 5.10 from 4.10? [03:10] bulio: update first [03:10] robotgeek, what I don't see (at least immediately) is how this might involve fetchmail. [03:10] B_166-ER-X: why don't you just mount it read-only? mount -o remount,ro / [03:10] bulio: and its dist-upgrade not dist-update === Suentis [n=alan@pcp04368155pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:10] robotgeek, let's back up. tell us what you are trying to do and what isn't working for you. [03:10] sethk, I don't have a clue what strace is [03:10] sethk: yes, i tried my filters out and they work. how do i get procmail to filter the mail retrieved by fetchmail? [03:10] so apt-get update? [03:10] bulio: so apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade === seth_k|away is now known as seth_k [03:11] cmatheson, just how am i supposed to mount my main partition read only ??? [03:11] just type it like that? [03:11] synackuator: is ivman running? [03:11] robotgeek: i think you need to edit your .forward... i don't know the exact line to add though... google [03:11] B-166_ER-X: i just gave you the freaking command [03:11] even more being in a live rescure session< [03:11] and cmatheson, I'd like to use mutt as a MUA and it depends on postfix I think [03:11] can anyone even see this? (don't mean to be impatient just wanna make sure) [03:11] bulio: u can do it u want to do both, one after the other yes, but u might need to prefix "sudo" to the front of both commands first :) [03:11] BlueDevil, no [03:11] robotgeek, in general, have fetchmail resend the mail to the mail server running on your machine (that is, the machine that is running procmail). Have fetchmail send the mail instead of having fetchmail write the mail directly into the client mailbox [03:11] Paradosso: it doesn't depend on postfix, any will do [03:11] Ne0phyt3: no :P [03:11] robotgeek, the reason is that procmail is part of the delivery process [03:11] bim: thx [03:11] linkdd: dist-upgrade first I guess [03:11] I'm coming from 4.10 [03:12] robotgeek, but if fetchmail writes to the mailbox file, the delivery process doesn't happen [03:12] cmatheson: i tht i did not need the .forward if i had mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %s" === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.13.74] has joined #ubuntu === UdontKnow [i=udontkno@freenode/staff/udontknow] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] robotgeek, I'm not sure that's a clear explanation. [03:12] bulio: no no, apt-get update first, to update ur repo list, THEN apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade ur distribution [03:12] cmatheson, if I apt-get remove postfix, mutt is removed as well [03:12] sethk: yes, i get you. [03:12] lol if i have tyo reinstall again its gonna be the 5th time today :( === eobanb [n=eoban@iub-vpn-73-118.noc.indiana.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] cmatheson, read only, but if the fsck have to modify things .. ? [03:12] Ne0phyt3, then it will very probably be the 5th unnecessary time [03:12] robotgeek: have you checked your mail logs to see if it's running everything through procmail? [03:12] seth: help me out lol [03:12] Paradosso: well you will need some sort of mta... be it postfix, exim, sendmail, etc. it really doesn't matter === concept10 [n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] Reading Package Lists... Done [03:13] Building Dependency Tree... Done [03:13] Calculating Upgrade... Done [03:13] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded [03:13] B-166_ER-X: just try it [03:13] bulio, don't paste [03:13] bulio: make sure uve edited your sources.list first tho to make sure it knows to upgrade [03:13] that can't be right... === constantine-xvi [n=andrew@12-208-79-240.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] how do I do that? [03:13] cmatheson: checking, one sec [03:13] Ne0phyt3: try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (i'm guessing it's kubuntu because you mentioned adept) [03:13] cmatheson, let's say I want postfix [03:13] cmatheson, from the live cd rescue, command line ? [03:13] bulio: ok ok, ill walk you through it [03:13] linkd: may I PM? [03:13] bulio: sure why not [03:13] how do I solve the MAIL FROM fetchmail hang? [03:13] Ne0phyt3: um, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [03:13] apt-get command not found [03:13] ah [03:13] Paradosso, I told you, it has nothing to do with MTA [03:13] B-166_ER-X: it really doesn't matter at all. if it's mounted either unmount it, or mount it read-only [03:14] Paradosso, so if you look at MTA configuration, you'll never solve it. [03:14] damn [03:14] sudo: apt-get: command not found [03:14] Paradosso: ok let's say you do. run dpkg-reconfigure postfix and configure it correctly this time [03:14] Ne0phyt3: hm, that's not good [03:14] sethk, so what should I do? [03:14] that's very very bad [03:14] it got through like 10-15 packages b4 i closed the window and realized what was going on [03:14] sethk and cmatheson, it seems to me you are suggesting completely different things [03:14] cmatheson: i don't think fetchmail is respecting the mda. [03:14] linkd: read PM [03:15] Ne0phyt3: looks like apt was one of the packages :| [03:15] Paradosso: try what sethk is saying first [03:15] synackuator: check if you have ivman installed [03:15] Ne0phyt3: hope like h that you still have dpkg installed [03:15] i do [03:15] Paradosso, you have valid MTA questions, they just don't relate to your fetchmail question [03:15] robotgeek: hmm, i would add a .forward file then... it sounds like fetchmail isn't going through your mta [03:15] im reading the manual right now [03:15] i saw in adept in the console it would write out dpkg complete [03:15] so i figure thats the background to the gui [03:15] cmatheson: even though i explicitly tell it to. [03:15] Paradosso, run fetchmail with strace. man strace will tell you how, at least a bit. then post the output on a pastebot and we'll look at it. [03:16] Ne0phyt3: and just for a laugh, try going into /var/cache/apt/archives and seeing if there's some .deb fies [03:16] Paradosso, I'll probably ask you to rerun it with different options, but you have to start somewhere. [03:16] listen, I really really really need help installing php5 and apache2 [03:16] robotgeek: where exactly are you telling it to? in your main.cf or something? [03:16] some.. A LOT === regetz [n=regetz@chewbacca.nceas.ucsb.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:16] robotgeek, your life would be a lot simpler if what you do is to put a .forward file (or equivalent) on the machine that fetchmail is getting mail _from_ [03:16] cmatheson: why would it be main.cf, that's postfix. [03:17] starts at alien and goes to wbritish [03:17] Ne0phyt3: yay. is apt one of them? [03:17] robotgeek, that way the mail gets sent to the machine where procmail will process it. [03:17] every time I try and access a .php file, the browser offers it to download, which is wrong. please, can someone help me configure the two CORRECTLY. [03:17] sethk: gmail :) [03:17] does anyone know how to enable the debian/gentoo style framebuffer console? [03:17] robotgeek: sorry i don't understand where you are telling it your mda, i thought that's what you were talking about [03:17] nope :( [03:17] alien , apache, aspell, avm, bazaar [03:17] robotgeek, if you can forward the mail on the remote mail servers, then you bypass fetchmail. Otherwise you'll have to figure out why fetchmail isn't sending the mail as you expect it to. [03:17] looks like packages i might not have installed [03:17] Ne0phyt3: you'll have to download it manually. [03:18] robotgeek, you could post your fetchmailrc file on a post bot and we can look at it, if you like. [03:18] cmatheson: i put it in fetchmailrc , i'm going to try googling some more [03:18] Ne0phyt3: it's a cache. they might have been installed recently, or just downloaded, in preparation for installing [03:18] maxkelley: you need to add a handler to apache to run php scripts not serve them to the browser; you can find install docs on php site [03:18] ok but once i get apt, will ineed to get online? === Phoul [n=death@S0106004005b748fa.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] sethk: okay, let me get rid of the passwords and stuff :) [03:18] robotgeek: ok... i've never tried adding that line to my fetchmailrc. .forward has always worked wonderfully for me however [03:18] Is gnome-look/org down? [03:18] gnome-look.org* [03:18] ive been transferring all the files w/ my ipod [03:18] cmatheson: hmm, i'll try that first [03:18] <_jason> Phoul, yes [03:18] Ne0phyt3: it'll help, but try and get it off the install CD or somesuch === Killer3k [n=Phonics3@82-71-29-232.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] thats the whole thing i been trying to get online through teh wifi (only connection avaiable) [03:18] oh ok [03:18] _jason, still! [03:18] i have that.. [03:18] Gah! [03:18] so i can download apt from sourceforge or a ubuntu site? === xfelon [n=felon@24-119-13-77.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:19] sethk, how do I run fetchmail with strace? === steve_ [n=steve@195-74-118-35.adsl.entanet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] if you are running ubuntu then you will already have apt [03:19] apt-get.org? [03:19] Paradosso: strace fetchmail [03:19] Ne0phyt3: via http://packages.ubuntu.com (assuming you have a working browser) [03:19] You should have it [03:19] yeah [03:20] im on my desktop right now [03:20] installed ubuntu to the laptop === Dloa [n=Dloa@HSE-Montreal-ppp3467525.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] Paradosso, in general, to run the command foo with strace, you would do: strace foo > output.file [03:20] Ne0phyt3: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [03:20] everything went well, it even tried to install the wireless card but that didn't fly [03:20] ah, bimberi already said it :-) [03:20] Paradosso, or, better, strace -o output-file-name foo [03:20] Paradosso, if fetchmail spawns child processes we'll have to get fancier, but try that first [03:20] How can i get a eggdrop on ubunti [03:20] hyphenated: one of my very rare wins :P [03:20] Dloa: ? [03:20] a eggdrop on ubuntu [03:21] anyone know how to set up a hauppage nova-t usb TV card in Ubuntu? [03:21] like the command m [03:21] make [03:21] synackuator: still there? [03:21] tcl [03:21] does anyone know how to enable the debian/gentoo style framebuffer console? === mahangu [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu === mephis1987 [n=mephis19@b-199-234.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] should I stop fetchmail as it hangs sethk? [03:21] i'm setting up a static ip for my system - for gateway address, would that be the ip address of my router? the same one i use to access the config page? [03:22] bob832: yes [03:22] cool, thanks [03:22] bob832: yes it would be the ip of your router [03:22] Paradosso, yes, let it go for maybe 30 seconds, then kill it. [03:22] Dloa: eggdrob is in the universe repository === goose [n=goose@unaffiliated/goose] has left #ubuntu [] [03:22] done === Kuyaedz [n=Kuyaedz@c-24-2-76-178.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] where do i paste the output? [03:22] Paradosso, there is a pastebot URL in the topic === frogzoo [n=PW103792@203.9.151.90] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org === Paradosso [n=Paradoss@host200-68.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] === Paradosso [n=Paradoss@host200-68.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === bobx86 [n=bob@216-43-79-170.dsl.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu === cmatheson is now known as cmatheson_ [03:23] Paradosso, robotgeek, I have to fix something for a paying customer. I'll be back shortly, hopefully. [03:23] bimberi, ok, how do i access it? [03:23] Okay, I had an idea... What if I copy the minimal files on my HD (NTFS, fucking windows) and try to install it from there somehow? [03:23] Dloa: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [03:23] figures my ipod doesnt get picked up when i dock it now [03:23] on the desktop i mean === The_Baker [n=The@pool-71-112-129-39.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] sadfo [03:24] gotta go through usb instead of firewire [03:24] ai blz === jcsmith [n=jcsmith@68-233-80-11.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] alguem sbe portugues aki [03:25] <_jason> !br === guenter [n=guenter@p54A07D67.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] sim === roughtrader [n=roughtra@ip-64-32-191-88.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #ubuntu === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-182-214.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] AtlantisX: sounds a bit like - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows [03:25] sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5685 [03:25] <_jason> visita, /j #ubuntu-br [03:25] gah....i'm going mad....firestarter doesnt want to seem to work with dnsmasq...someone help! [03:25] sim [03:26] eu a primeira vez que uso o mirc [03:26] !es [03:26] to meio perdido === intelikey [n=root@0-1pool91-230.nas23.houston4.tx.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] <_jason> visita, escreve isto: /j #ubuntu-br [03:26] sethk,cmatheson_ it worked with the .forward file [03:26] now, i am going to try it without :) [03:26] valew [03:27] bimberi: Nice find, that looks helpful. Thanks. === Chronos [n=_Whyte_H@c-24-9-140-175.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] what, no ubotu? [03:27] ok [03:27] how do i get the command make [03:27] AtlantisX: np :) [03:27] <_jason> visita, tambem podes ir a #ubuntu-pt da mesma maneira, mas normalmente no chat br ha mais pessoas [03:27] -> #ubuntu-es [03:27] ok [03:28] frogzoo: not currently no :( [03:28] vlw msm amigo [03:28] seems a common problem lately... [03:28] <_jason> frogzoo, portuguese not spanish :) [03:28] "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process" [03:28] How do i set my printer on ubuntu [03:28] Dloa: you can sudo apt-get install make, but you'll probably be better off installing build-essential [03:28] Dloa sudo apt-get install build-essential [03:29] Dloa: tried -> admin -> printers? === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-21999.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] Anyone here managed to setup lan network between Xp and Ubuntu?? [03:29] intelikey: build-essential is not required to install a printer [03:29] also, get checkinstall while youre at it. much better than using "make install" [03:29] dido use samba [03:29] Dido-, [03:29] frogzoo scroll up === stef [n=celtic4i@cpc4-john1-5-1-cust194.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #Ubuntu [03:30] !samba [03:30] can some here help me pls [03:30] sethk,cmatheson_ it does not work without the .forward. it works great with it. thanks for your help! [03:30] intelikey: ah, k [03:30] stef: ask away === WeiLi [n=Weili@d205-250-191-100.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] stef waht up? [03:30] <_jason> stef, aska a question and we can try :) [03:30] !tell stef about ask [03:30] how do i use voice chat on knoppix [03:30] frogzoo sorry i lag. [03:30] ?? [03:30] varsendagger, what's samba, i guess it's not included in ubuntu.. [03:30] stef: #knoppix [03:31] stef: youre in the wrong channel. ask in knoppix [03:31] ok i killed the previously running dpkg [03:31] Dido-: samba is a network file system for talking to windows servers via the SMB or CIFS protocols [03:31] were is it firdt time using this [03:31] Dido- samba is very much included in ub. [03:31] Dido-: the samba client is (smbclient) - allows connection to windows file and printer shares [03:31] "cannot access archive: No such file or directory" [03:31] Dido-: samba (server) is available in ubuntu repositories [03:31] anyone? === redir [n=Reed@208-58-195-117.c3-0.grg-ubr2.lnh-grg.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu === roughtrader [n=roughtra@ip-64-32-191-88.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #ubuntu === heatxsink [n=jmioph@153.18.19.251] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] Ne0phyt3 from what command do you get that E; === B_166-ER-X [n=oli@c66.110.148-62.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] dpkg -i apt_0.6.... [03:33] thanks guys, i'm installing it now [03:33] Ne0phyt3: mebbe an old lock file left about? [03:33] ? [03:33] i downloaded the apt.deb file, copied it to home dir [03:33] did a ps aux [03:33] saw /usr/bin/dpkg already running [03:33] so i killed that [03:33] Ne0phyt3 then is apt_0.6.... in the $PWD ? [03:33] Ne0phyt3: are you running the command in the correct dir? === stef [n=celtic4i@cpc4-john1-5-1-cust194.renf.cable.ntl.com] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"] === shakuhashi [n=libre@200.163.7.109] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] hi [03:33] what dir do i have to run it in? [03:34] im in home/myaccount [03:34] which is the name of the ubuntu distro for old machines? [03:34] the one we start installing as a server.. [03:34] Ne0phyt3: the same as the file (unless you specify the whole path) [03:34] im in that dir [03:34] Ne0phyt3: dpkg uses apt-get - if you were installing a new version, & killed the process .... === vladuz976 [n=vladuz97@pool-71-106-208-30.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] on ubuntu live I'm unable to make changes because apparently i'm not the root, how would I get "root" status? [03:34] the one it is in. if 'ls ' shows the .deb run it in that dir else cd to where ever it is and run dpkg -i blah there. [03:34] WeiLi: sudo [03:34] Ne0phyt3: typo then? [03:35] WeiLi: use "sudo"" [03:35] i am building a kernel, for usb digi camera supports, what drives should i enable in the kernel? [03:35] ok i dont have apt-get [03:35] shakuhashi: xubuntu? [03:35] thats what im tyring to install [03:35] use sudo in the terminal? [03:35] Ne0phyt3: Why don't you have that? === gpierce [n=gpierce@d149-67-175-87.clv.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] frogzoo "dpkg uses apt-get" error. backwards my friend. [03:36] WeiLi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo would be useful for you to read :) [03:36] ok thanks [03:36] what's should i type to run samba in graphical mode [03:36] intelikey: ah, the expert i c - thx [03:36] because in adept i accidentally select gcc 4.01 or wahtever to be uninstalled [03:36] Dido-: what are you trying to do? [03:36] then it started uninstalling a bunch of other projects [03:36] bimberi: this is a good choice but there is another one === radiodog [n=ivar@65-100-2-113.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] bimberi: i'm trying to remember the name [03:37] what's the trick to getting firestarter to recognize dnsmasq with connection sharing...i can get dhcp request to work if i turn off firestarter and leave dnsmasq running [03:37] Well, you are in GUI mode, right Ne0phyt3? [03:37] no [03:37] yeah [03:37] i mean im in xwindows [03:37] Dido-: Places -> Connect to Server (if you're connecting to a windows share) [03:37] bimberi, i'm going to (try to) setup a lan network [03:37] but tyring to install this through Konsole === amorph [n=amorph@p54B0B3F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === Reinald0 [n=reinaldo@201.236.25.234] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] frogzoo you can dpkg -r apt* and still use dpkg. you can not apt-get remove dpkg and still use apt.... check the deps. [03:37] i just dont want to reinstall all of ubuntu if i can get these 10 or 20 packages back [03:37] What window manager are you using, by the way? === alekz [n=alekz@200.38.225.239] has joined #ubuntu === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] Wow that was weird [03:38] shakuhashi: i don't think there's another *ubuntu flavour per se, but there is fluxbox [03:38] should i just reinstall? [03:38] Ne0phyt3 is synaptic installed ? [03:38] anyone has a ipod running with ubuntu ? [03:38] whats synaptic? [03:39] the only package manager ive ever used is adept [03:39] i only installed today so i dont really know what im doing [03:39] I couldn't ping any connection on my network and I had my default gateway/subnetmask/ip set up right .. the ethernet status light was normal and everything sound have been working [03:39] Dido-: ok, do you want ubuntu to run as a file (or print) server? [03:39] I simply unplugged the net cable and plugged it back in and it fixed it... Anyone know why (using static ip)? [03:39] Dido-: or just for it to be able to access other servers? === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:39] ah [03:39] bimberi, just to be able to transfer files with the xp pc [03:40] for some reason [03:40] on ubuntu live i typed in sudo apt-get install w32codecs but it says that it can't find package w32codecs how do i get by this? [03:40] i couldnt isntall as root [03:40] Ne0phyt3 in a terminal (konsole) type 'sudo synaptic ' if it is there you can install what you need there. [03:40] i got apt installed as a regular user === majyk [n=majyk@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] apt as regular user won't help you much [03:40] Dido-: ok, share the folder on XP and then connect to it via Places -> Connect to Server... [03:40] awesome [03:40] z0rz: I get the same problem occassionally & nothing helps but disconnect/reconnect [03:40] now im reinstalling adept [03:41] which is what i used to uninstall stuff before [03:41] weird [03:41] and can probably use to reinstall now [03:41] :-D [03:41] bimberi, the problem is that xp pc doesn't see mine [03:41] synaptic = GUI frontend for dpkg. [03:41] gotcha [03:41] Ne0phyt3: What exactly did you uninstall? Adept or apt-get? [03:41] is adept just like a branch off of dpkg? cuz it deals with packages and dependencies as well [03:41] both [03:41] i just had dpkg [03:41] frogzoo kinda makes a remote system w/o kvm a bitch [03:42] i downloaded apt from the net and put it on my ipod then onto laptop /home dir [03:42] lol [03:42] Dido-: ok, if you want to serve from ubuntu, then System -> Administration -> Shared Folders [03:42] wouldnt install w/ dpkg as root for some reason, so i did an "exit" and as my normal user i was able to install it [03:42] Ne0phyt3 no it is a frontend for dpkg [03:42] then with apt i did apt install adept [03:42] now in adept reinstalling what was uninstalled before [03:42] Dido-: more here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28settingupsamba%29 [03:42] Ne0phyt3: You can actually do that as normal user without sudo? [03:43] heh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba (a bit tidier) [03:43] yeah [03:43] z0rz: it looks like an autonegotiation problem - but Im not sure when end is the problem - the nic or my (wireless) modem [03:43] it woudlnt work as root [03:43] but worked as reguler user === jimjawn_ [n=jimjawn@tupouhs.fwc.edu.to] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] how weird is that [03:43] UdontKnow, quit it ass [03:43] well I have the realktek 8139c chipset on my nic and a linksys wrt54g wrouter [03:43] router* [03:44] now if someone could help me with my original problem my life would be complete lol [03:44] Ne0phyt3: That should not be possible without su or sudo >_> [03:44] :-/ it happened [03:44] bimberi, thanks === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.34] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] Dido-: yw :) [03:44] AtlantisX local install === majyk [n=majyk@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:44] the original problem was getting my wpc54g v2 linksys wifi card to work [03:45] ubuntu tries to use texas instruments acx 100/111 driver to install it based on chipset, but it doesn't work at all [03:45] and all the forums ive read have just recomended ndiswrapper and newest drivers from linksys [03:45] which also isnt working.. === Phoul [n=death@S0106004005b748fa.wp.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Bad] [03:46] oh yeah, is there a way to install the remaining 300 packages? [03:46] i have 935 installed it says there are like 1100 or 1200 total, can i just install them all to avoid dependency issues? === bulio [n=bulio@unaffiliated/bulio] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:46] Ne0phyt3: You removed them by uninstalling what? gcc, right? Just reinstall gcc. ;p [03:47] yeah i just did :-D [03:47] thanks === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] Ne0phyt3 search wikis for repos [03:47] z0rz: you running pppoe over that link? === Mr [n=visita@201-27-48-62.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] Ne0phyt3 there are near 16000 packages [03:48] well with this cd there are about 1200 === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu [03:48] yes that is why you need to look up repos on the wiki Ne0phyt3 [03:48] !repos [03:48] but the bot is not here right now. [03:49] yeah frogzoo === moono [n=booya@203.161.103.135.dyn.amnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] ai blz === jimjawn_ [n=jimjawn@tupouhs.fwc.edu.to] has left #Ubuntu [] === bondo [n=bondo@ip68-224-70-106.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] but what's weird is the ubuntu box is on the local network.. and when it happends.. I can't ping anything (not even the router) === doofy` [n=doofy@c-67-177-240-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] #ubuntu br === Mr [n=visita@201-27-48-62.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu [] === Mr [n=visita@201-27-48-62.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu === wheatie [i=alex@unaffiliated/wheatie] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] z0rz: I think there's a problem when pppoe kicks off before the nics up - I disabled the auto start for pppoe - & bring it up by hand - now works every time === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] Does Anybody use Cedega\UBuntu64bitBreezy? === Mr [n=visita@201-27-48-62.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu [] === Mr [n=visita@201-27-48-62.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] can some tell me what's the trick to getting firestarter to recognize dnsmasq with connection sharing...i can get dhcp request to work if i turn off firestarter and leave dnsmasq running [03:51] cle/0,aid,120763,pg,12,00.asp | No pea por ajuda, diga logo sua dvida! === moono [n=Datska@203.161.103.135.dyn.amnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] !es [03:51] English please [03:51] Ubotu?! [03:51] How can I get my soundblaster sound card to work? === reshxed [i=lol@217-163-238.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] noooo!!! [03:51] how can i make a package list of the packages I have on one pc inorder to install them on another pc [03:52] Razor-X ubotu is AWOL again [03:52] Mr: #ubuntu-es === no_gatez_fan [n=patrick@cpe-069-132-000-216.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] how do I enable DMA on a SATA drive? === mephis1987 [n=mephis19@b-199-234.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] ilba7r: dpkg -l I believe.. === jackmacokc [n=jack@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] i curently run with dual boot [03:52] thanx Kuaedz === ChUckev [n=riise@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] mr -> #ubuntu-es per favor [03:52] but i want to dual run === tehdely [n=delysiid@home.teambarry.org] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] has anyone ever configured CGIIRC? [03:52] ilba7r: going to list quite a bit. Might want to dpkg -l > list.txt [03:52] frogzoo: I think it was ``por favor'' :) [03:52] i mean i want to run windows and linux at the same time [03:53] thx ;) [03:53] can i do that? [03:53] wow they even have a spanish tech support [03:53] My processor constantly uses 100% ... wtf?! [03:53] ilba7r man apt-cache [03:53] mephis1987: dual boot is the term you're looking for [03:53] now that's one popular distro === eggie [n=ubuntu@p6078-ipad08motosinmat.mie.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu === ilya [n=ilya@CPE0080c6e9d3c4-CM001225701432.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] yes mephis1987 [03:53] when i try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda it says setting using_dma to 1 (on) [03:53] HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device [03:53] thanx Kuaedz i was going to pipe them to text file [03:53] z0rz: of course, there should be help for human beings of all languages [03:53] mephis1987: with vmware you can [03:53] ....even though I see no Ubuntu Bengali help [03:53] z0rz: ubuntu is big in Columbia & Brazil [03:53] will try it intelikey though i only use aptitude will see if it make a diff [03:53] anyone give me a hand with live cd? [03:53] i mean i want to run both Linux and Windows OS [03:53] oh well, can't have everything now, can we? [03:53] ilba7r man dpkg either can do that. [03:53] wow .. that's cool [03:53] How do you say Ubuntu in English? [03:53] mephis1987: what Windows flavor do you run? [03:54] You-Bun-Two [03:54] ? [03:54] z0rz: I always wondered about that [03:54] mephis1987: yes you can dual-boot if thats what you're looking for--have the option of either OS at bootup [03:54] and i can swicth to each other if i want [03:54] z0rz: I say Uh-boon-two. === tomodachi [n=comradev@69.177.143.195] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] z0rz: I say it the TLLTS way, ``Uh-buhn-too'' [03:54] <_jason> z0rz, ooboontoo I believe [03:54] windows XP [03:54] oo-Bun-too [03:54] I have some black friends that say You Bewn Two [03:54] mephis1987: you can run linux in windows or windows in linux === frogzoo a bun too [03:54] although I used to say ``oo-Boon-Too'' [03:54] no chacne anyone in here knows how to get a linksys wireless g pcmcia network card (WPC54G v2.0) working ? [03:54] Razor-X: Report that and someone might make a bengali support site xD === pra5ad [n=pra5ad@pool-70-17-195-44.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] umm is the cdrom on a stock imac /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc? [03:55] "eww-buhn-too" is how i say it [03:55] <_jason> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation :) [03:55] Ne0phyt3: I checked the wiki and that doesn't have much help. I have worked a lot with wireless & ndiswrapper. Best thing is to find the right driver [03:55] i dont mean dual boot , i prefer dual run [03:55] thanks _jason [03:55] My processor constantly uses 100% ... The problem is in firefox-bin, everything went normal when I stopped the proccess, any solutions? [03:55] lol _jason - someone had to know [03:55] look slike the majority so eww-buhn-too [03:55] I have 2 machines connecting to the internet through a wireless router. One is connected through the ethernet cable, and the other using a wireless card. i ran a traceroute, and the computer with the wireless interface is lossing somewhere outside my router. i have no clue why this is happening. anyone? [03:55] the term dual run is better [03:55] i call it henry [03:55] I say You-buhn-too [03:55] for that matter, how do you pronounce SABDFL? I say (Sa-hb dee-eff-ell) but others can say (ess aay dee eff ell) or (sa-hb d-uh-fuhl) [03:55] jackmacokc eww :) [03:55] oops did i fail to say hello from japan? [03:55] is there any software that can run both of them as the same time ? [03:55] mephis1987: as long as you have free space, and you have defragmented your NTFS partition, it should be good to go === pietro_spina [n=pietro@pool-68-163-212-176.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === surfdue_ [i=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] eggie: you're from Japan? awesomeness [03:56] i say oo-boon-to [03:56] well i guess lol [03:56] mephis1987: but I *STRONGLY* suggest getting Partition Magic [03:56] uhm [03:56] I have been using PM8.0 [03:56] eggie: How do you pronounce it there? === NADLA [n=DOWNLOVE@adsl-68-90-232-26.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] eggie: I'm learning your language :P === nueefh [n=nnnnvvhd@oberon.reed.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] Sollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE === lllluwuwucv [n=nnnncuc@montalban.reed.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] Sollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE === poiuerhf [n=nncuehd@openwire.metawire.org] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] Sollog predicted: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE [03:56] good for you pronounce what? 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[03:56] Sollog predicted: [03:56] Sollog predicted: Version 2, June 1991 [03:56] Sollog predicted: [03:56] but PM only provides dual boot [03:56] Sollog predicted: Version 2, June 1991 [03:57] Sollog predicted: [03:57] Sollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA [03:57] !ops [03:57] Sollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [03:57] Sollog predicted: [03:57] Sollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [03:57] Sollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [03:57] Sollog predicted: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies [03:57] Sollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [03:57] Sollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA [03:57] Sollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA [03:57] Sollog predicted: Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [03:57] Sollog predicted: [03:57] Sollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA [03:57] Sollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA [03:57] Sollog predicted: of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. [03:57] Sollog predicted: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies [03:57] Sollog predicted: 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA [03:57] Sollog predicted: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies === mode/#ubuntu [+m] by lilo [03:57] scuse me === Paradosso [n=Paradoss@host200-68.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o nalioth] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu [+m] by nalioth === surfdue__ [n=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === we0 [n=weo@p5499DC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] hey nalioth === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] (sorry about reaching in and grabbing) [03:57] HiddenFly: lilo [03:57] HiddenFly: lilo [03:57] bah [03:58] hrm [03:58] np lilo [03:58] seems you two reacted quicker than i :) === nalioth finds his keyboard keys [03:58] nalioth: can -m now I think === mode/#ubuntu [-m] by nalioth === skiddlaptop [n=skiddiel@cpe-67-11-197-158.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === dave_ [n=dave@CPE000f3d9e7ceb-CM000f9f7817e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] Sollog predicted: rights. [03:58] Sollog predicted: [03:58] anyone has a ipod running with ubuntu ? [03:58] k-lines are good. [03:58] Sollog predicted: We protect your rights with two steps: (1) copyright the software, and [03:58] ughh [03:58] Sollog predicted: (2) offer you this license which gives you legal permission to copy, [03:58] Ubuntu seems to be wide-spread already... === kestas [n=kestas@ppp169-240.lns1.per1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] Sollog predicted: distribute and/or modify the software. === Goldfish [n=gregturn@user-0calf26.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] Sollog predicted: [03:58] g-lines are fun. [03:58] any solution ? [03:58] there we go [03:58] i just want to know if i can hdparm my cd drive with a live cd? [03:58] pls === mode/#ubuntu [+b %nulltank_!*@*] by nalioth === russell_ [n=russell@71-9-148-127.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] :D [03:59] My processor constantly uses 100% ... The problem is in firefox-bin, everything went normal when I stopped the proccess, any solutions? === linkd cheers for lilo === eternalist is now known as korhalf [03:59] get some operators :-) === bobx86 [n=bob@216-43-79-170.dsl.mcleodusa.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:59] sethk, are you still there? === mode/#ubuntu [-b %nulltank_!*@*] by nalioth [03:59] what was that about, hmmm [03:59] what's going on? [03:59] need some help I have installed mplayer using easy breezy and when I go to open mplayer it does nothing. [03:59] anyone ever try to setup CGI:IRC in ubuntu? [03:59] bah useless forum === parabolize [n=paraboli@68-69-136-167.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] Dido-: Firefox has some leaks or something, same thing happens to me on Win Firefox sometimes. [03:59] lilo: i hope we won't have to go +m in here [03:59] <_jason> Dido-, that happens to me if I run a lot of flash/java, was that true in your case as well? === dave_ is now known as Acidic [04:00] nalioth: nah, shoudln't have to [04:00] _jason, no, i had opened just 1 page === tehdely [n=delysiid@home.teambarry.org] has left #ubuntu [] [04:00] what is +m? [04:00] registered mode [04:00] <_jason> Dido-, strange, any extensions? [04:00] factotum: moderated [04:00] can i run both linux and windows at the same time? [04:00] _jason: Java here. Not with flash, though. [04:00] ah [04:00] factotum: means normal users cannot send to the channel [04:00] i mean dual run [04:00] Mephis1987, on seperate pc's i think :P [04:00] mephis1987: -> vmware :D [04:00] mephis1987: no, not on the same PC [04:00] wouldnt that kinda defy the point of the channel? [04:00] uhm [04:00] mephis1987: how many times are you going to ask [04:01] vmware is not free [04:01] it is in linux [04:01] mephis1987: you can try QEmu or Bochs, or the non-free VMWare solution === skiddlaptop [n=skiddiel@cpe-67-11-197-158.satx.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [":("] [04:01] _jason, didn't understand you, but i was reading only https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba [04:01] wow [04:01] mephis1987: but they won't give you the True Experience [04:01] (TM) [04:01] lilo: christel: ty === mode/#ubuntu [-o nalioth] by ChanServ [04:01] that s it [04:01] might have to +i off and on, and I guess you would want to forward to an alternate channel [04:02] thanks all [04:02] :D [04:02] and they'll probably come with more problems than help [04:02] Anyone here familiar with reactOS? [04:02] mplayer is installed but when I click to open mplayer nothing happens any suggestions? [04:02] <_jason> Dido-, do you use any extensions for firefox? [04:02] AtlantisX: somewhat [04:02] Question: I may not be looking in the right spot in the ubuntu documentation. But can anyone explain how to add resolutions to the system that i didnt during installation? [04:02] Razor-X: Is it in a useful state already? [04:02] russell_: go into a terminal and type in ``mplayer foo'' where foo is the media file you want [04:02] AtlantisX: last time I checked (which wasn't too recently), no :( [04:03] _jason, i don't know about extensions, so i guess not [04:03] ow [04:03] ;) [04:03] thks will try that [04:03] Acidic: I think you can run xconfig for that. [04:03] <_jason> Dido-, can you repeat the experience or did it go away when you restarted firefox? [04:03] ill, give that a go [04:03] Acidic you can 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg ' === ivan [n=ivan@194.84.5.222] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] AtlantisX: my god, it's usable [04:03] intelikey: Sounds better than my idea... xDD [04:03] acidic, what intelikey said [04:04] Razor-X: Hmm... [04:04] AtlantisX: wow... thanks for reminding me.... [04:04] _jason, the process is still stopped, i'll check again, but before that (i've rebooted several times) it was the same [04:04] nope not working. I really dont like Totem === Hentai^XP [n=Justin@202.131.162.37.cmts2.guam.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] Razor-X: Maybe the question was wrong since we are talking about a reimplementation of an OS which is unuseable itseld... xD [04:04] *itself [04:04] jackmacokc: u sure vmwares free for Linux? this says $189 - http://www.vmware.com/request_processor?nextPage=/vmwarestore/newstore/category.jsp&action=CATALOG.GETGROUPS&application=store&ProductGroupCodes=EXT-STORE-WKST-WIN,EXT-STORE-WKST-LX [04:04] _jason, yep, at the moment i start firefox it goes to 100% and it doesn't move === heatxsink [n=jmioph@153.18.19.251] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] <_jason> Dido-, was this always the case or did it just start happening? [04:05] frogzoo, it's free if you have a gun and a ski mask [04:05] well guess I will google some more === Padre [n=godsong@S010600142265dec5.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] Dido-: Sounds like an extension that eats your memory. Which autostarting extensions do you have? [04:05] _jason, just started, don't know exactly when [04:05] AtlantisX: :P, even still, the images boggle my mind [04:05] <_jason> Dido-, run 'firefox -safe-mode' and see if it still does it (close all firefox instances beforehand) [04:06] sethk or live in middle east === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] seth_k: cool, Im in business :) === reshxed [i=lol@217-163-238.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has left #ubuntu [] [04:06] frogzoo: as long as you use the vmware viewer it is === NanoBCN28 [n=NanoBCN2@62-14-79-179.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu === ivan [n=ivan@194.84.5.222] has left #ubuntu [] [04:07] seth_k must think I'm here to confuse people, only I registered this nick two years ago. :) [04:07] intelikey, it tells me that xserver.xorg is not installed [04:07] maybe - [04:07] sethk: more than confusing, you're making me go the extra mile in tab-complete [04:07] Acidic: o.O Then you use X11, I guess. [04:07] gnome? [04:07] sethk: you're making me type more, dern you [04:07] xserver-xorg ? === MMMond [n=Bukkake@adsl-69-210-75-73.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] any network gurus around? [04:08] intelikey, that works [04:08] Razor-X: mc is.. well, very novel, to say the least. Any more suggestions? :) [04:08] if i used ub or xorg i'd check it for you....oh ok [04:08] MMMond: have you tried out twin? [04:08] Nope, what is it, if I may ask? [04:08] MMMond: it's a desktop environment for the CLI, using ncurses [04:08] postfix hangs while reading e-mail fetched by fetchmail: any hints? [04:08] MMMond: awesome stuff [04:08] _jason, now it seems to be normal. it says: *** loading the extensions datasource so i guess use them [04:09] Getting it right now then [04:09] sethk, roger that ;) funny that we should both end up in #ubuntu, even === ChUckev [n=sherlock@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [04:09] sethk, but I got seth@ubuntu.com, so I win :P [04:09] <_jason> Dido-, ok start up firefox normally and go to tools -> extensions, let me know what is there [04:09] twin hmmmm. === intelikey makes a note. [04:09] seth_k & sethk this is the first time i've seen you both [04:10] _jason, umm actually i think all started when i installed some "plugin" for playing videos online but im not sure [04:10] robotgeek, I notice us in here together a lot, mostly b/c people ping me instead of him :D [04:10] seth_k and sethk back to back! [04:10] robotgeek, good thing I do most of my support in #kubuntu [04:10] my Marvell gigabit card hangs periodically with 2.6.12 [04:10] <_jason> Dido-, quite possibly, what plugin is this? [04:10] seth_k: lol [04:10] jackmacokc: ah - the "vmware player" - i c, thx === nyel [n=asd@200216024005.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #Ubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu [04:10] _jason, yep that mediaplayer connectivity is there === mrkoje [n=mrkoje@cpe-24-242-43-177.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:10] how do i get boinc to run as a daemon process? [04:10] frogzoo: no prob..lemme know if you need any help..i've got it setup on this box [04:10] intelikey, thanks for the help :) [04:10] I think I was almost 20 before I met someone with the same first name. But that was a _long_ time ago. It's getting common these days. :) [04:10] I have 2 machines connecting to the internet through a wireless router. One is connected through the ethernet cable, and the other using a wireless card. i ran a traceroute, and the computer with the wireless interface is lossing connection somewhere outside my router. i have no clue why this is happening. anyone? [04:10] np === sirkism [n=sirkism@pool-71-241-11-160.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu === Lenny [n=Lenny@wap1.lga2.us.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] Me wants to get rid of Windows on me comp. >-< [04:11] <_jason> Dido-, ok well you can remove it and see if it was causing the problems (you can always put it back later if it turns out it wasnt) [04:11] sethk, yup, my mum named me b/c it was a rare name back in the day [04:11] ok, not having the best of things: "twin: ALL DISPLAY DRIVERS FAILED. QUITTING." [04:11] intelikey, another problem has arisen, I added 1280x1024 to the resolution table, and now 1024x768 is still the highest available... Do i need a system restart? [04:11] I want to configure my wireless laptop with two profiles: one being to connect to my home wireless LAN, the other to switch to connecting to any open AP. Any links to ubuntu forums detailing this? === aram [i=arram@gw11.wh-stuttgart.de] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] Acidic: Probably have to restart the x server. [04:12] acidic, yes, you do have to restart [04:12] hi people [04:12] alright === btiffin [i=blue@ppp197.zeuter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] AtlantisX to rid your slef of the M$ problem, 'sudo cfdisk /dev/hda ' and go to work :) [04:12] it has to reload certain modules to update that info === dlfg [n=dlfg@c-71-193-53-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] intelikey: That would require me install some *nix first, which I am trying right now. xD [04:13] i wanted to ask you,if anybody know a prog lik DC++ doing the same job [04:13] Acidic x restart. ctrl+alt+backspace. [04:13] intelikly, acidic -x restart is not enough [04:13] aram: There is a linux version of DC++ but it was hard to get. >_> [04:14] an AtlantisX just use the partitioner in the ub install (assumes ubuntu) [04:14] or so i read === dave_ [n=dave@CPE000f3d9e7ceb-CM000f9f7817e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] everyonewhohelped, thanks === Mabus06 [n=Nick@hlfxns0149w-142177137023.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] hm.... [04:14] hard to get??? [04:14] damn, the kernel bz2 from kernel.org is up to 37 meg [04:14] jackmacokc what you talking about ? [04:14] aram: there are other clients, though [04:15] like? [04:15] intelikey: =_= Gotta get to that point first which is fucking complicated w/o any drives. xDD === pepsi [n=pepsi@pdpc/supporter/student/pepsi] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] aram: just run a package search in apt/aptitude/synaptic for dc === btiffin [i=blue@ppp197.zeuter.com] has left #ubuntu [] [04:15] intelikey: acidic's resolution problem with xserver? [04:15] ah AtlantisX i see. === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu === DRAGON_Ultra [n=DRAGON_U@adsl-70-232-60-5.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] Razor-X: I had to alien it. But that was couple of months before. [04:15] _jason, yeh it's ok now, thank you very much, i was near to be disapointed from ubuntu actually lol === robotgeek is now known as robotgeek_away [04:16] jackmacokc sense when is restarting the xserver not enough to read in new rez ? === pietro_spina [n=pietro@pool-68-163-212-176.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === MMond [n=Bukkake@adsl-69-210-75-73.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] <_jason> Dido-, that's strange, I haven't used that extension but I've seen a lot of people recommend it. What version of firefox are you using? and did you install it form the mozilla site or somewhere else [04:16] intelikey, i've never seen it work === spockaway is now known as spockboy === mahangu [n=mahangu@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] ok thanks .... [04:16] jackmacokc he's not implimenting new drivers. [04:17] _jason, 1.0.7, it's included in ubuntu === K_Dallas [n=Korben@i216-58-91-210.cybersurf.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] intelikey: i read that doesn't matter..but i could've been misinformed. [04:17] well i confess xorg iliteracy, and concent to jackmacokc's supremicy. === K_Dallas [n=Korben@i216-58-91-210.cybersurf.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === B1zz [n=cgomez@69-169-94-167.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === darknature [n=darknatu@ip68-226-219-225.lf.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === Karling76 [n=Karling7@203.131.177.74] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] lol, i know nothing :) [04:17] <_jason> Dido-, well for viewing media in firefox you can try mplayerplug-in. Works well for me [04:18] sweet! [04:18] it works! [04:18] just trying to regergitate what i've read === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has left #ubuntu [] [04:18] <_jason> Dido-, I assu,e the totem plug-in wasn't doing it for you? [04:18] anybody here tried installing asterisk [04:18] using ubuntu === ChUckev [n=sherlock@202.95.133.10] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:18] i need some help [04:19] i only know i see a lot (A FREAKING LOT) of un-nessary reboots in here. linux is not 'micro-reboot' :) [04:19] Hmmm.... Okay.... question for the real geeks here... Does anyone know the neomagic ZX card? If so, does it support GL under Ubuntu? xD === singachea [n=singache@155.69.167.133] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] _jason, actually i dont need viewing media.. just once, never needed to before [04:19] <_jason> Dido-, ok, enjoy ubuntu then :) [04:19] AtlantisX: google it up :P === NADLA [n=DOWNLOVE@adsl-68-90-232-26.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:19] Any of you have runtime experience with network-manager? [04:19] anyone has a ipod running with ubuntu ? [04:19] hello [04:19] Razor-X: Later... xD Just wanted to see if the close range sources may know it... xD === JairunCaloth [n=trumpetp@71-14-42-161.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] Karling76: Asterisk.... never attempted it, felt too much a hastle, sorry [04:20] hi alekz.. my ipod is working properly with ubuntu [04:20] Karling76, wich gen is ur ipod ? [04:20] _jason, thank you ;) still configurating it but enjoying for sure, i'm about to forget windows [04:20] ;] [04:20] 4th gen 20G [04:20] One person in mlinux.org (Melbourne Linux Users Group) has demonstrated asterisk, and has an IP phone. Kind of neat. [04:20] <_jason> Dido-, windows, what's that? ;) [04:21] Dido-: Windows will soon have less functions than Linux, especially with wine... *-* [04:21] can't tell exactly.. some call it os [04:21] Karling76, u just use it on linux or first time on windows/mac ? [04:21] ;)0 [04:21] Windows has no use to me! Give yourself over to GNU! [04:21] AtlantisX, i think it already has less functions then linux [04:21] _jason, Asterisk is awsome! [04:21] AtlantisX: I dont think we need wine to get a fully functional linux distro [04:22] _jason, I have been using it for 3 months now. [04:22] MMMond: perchance, would you like to browse images? === siriusnova [n=siriusno@64-251-145-86-cablemodem-roll.fidnet.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:22] actually i tried it on all of the 3 [04:22] What I would like to see now is a Kwine or something that clings to the KDE interface, so you can seemlessly open win files from the KDE. [04:22] I played enough with wine. Used it to keep Quicken running. Then they announced no more support for that version, so I moved to moneydance. Works great. [04:22] <_jason> mrkoje, ok, you can tell me about it in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like === intelikey tips hat to GNU-zeolots every where / {:-) [04:22] _jason, sorry.... wrong person.. I was after Goldfish [04:22] Karling76, look i have a 5th gen ipod i've just bought it 2 hours ago, i cant add files using gtkpod should i use it first on win/mac ? [04:23] <_jason> mrkoje, lol i figured as much :) [04:23] I managed to install wine today, but it doesn't seems to do good... but i didn't test it well already === _linuxn00b [n=b@69-162-143-96.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] <_linuxn00b> hey everyone [04:23] mrkoje: Ehh? Come again. [04:23] alekz, i think it's safer to use it first using the bundled softwares in windows or mac [04:24] Dido-: The standard wine that comes with the distro or a fresh build? [04:24] Karling76, i tought that :P i'll try that and then on linux again [04:24] hi everybody [04:24] <_linuxn00b> i was hoping someone could help me fix my mbr so that i can re-install xp [04:24] Goldfish, talking about Asterisk [04:24] <_linuxn00b> grub seems to have screwed me over [04:24] Goldfish, its cool.... use it everyday [04:24] ok alekz... goodluck [04:24] nice gadget you got there [04:24] my porblem is: when I retrieve mail using fetchmail + postfix, it hangs just after the MAIL FROM line [04:24] thanks :) === RiX [n=blah@65.116.58.92] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] I really cant' figure why [04:25] any hints, please? [04:25] AtlantisX, i didn't got it included in ubuntu, "fresh" install with much much struggling === daveb_ [n=daveb@ool-457001d3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === titanium [n=titanium@blk-222-158-20.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] Dido-: No apt-get --build wine or whatever it was? === TecnoVM64 [n=tecnovm@201.243.233.40] has joined #ubuntu === P8ntKid [n=jon@pcp0011206865pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] Dido-: On my other comp I just added some repos, then compiled my own wine... Hrhr... deadly mix... xD [04:26] <_linuxn00b> can someone help me with a boot problem? ;) [04:26] _linuxn00b: you want the windows xp boot loader? [04:26] <_linuxn00b> can i pm you toma? [04:26] no [04:26] <_linuxn00b> ok [04:26] lol [04:27] _linuxn00b describe your problem and the desired end and we can help. [04:27] AtlantisX, when i start winetools it says i'm using other version of wine so im using it on my own [04:27] may be there's the prob [04:27] PMing with problems is inefficient... o.O [04:27] and annoying === cameron [n=cameron@c-24-22-122-59.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] is anyone in here a kernel compiling pro? [04:27] <_linuxn00b> i had ubuntu installed as dual boot but i need software that only xp can run (easily) so unfortunately i need to move back to xp [04:27] cameron: i know enough.. [04:27] Dido-: I'd config it by hand, may take longer but also makes it faster. [04:27] mrkoje: You reading me? I was just installing network-manager and got bumped off the internet in the process. === Watje [n=watje@82-171-201-50.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu === bimberi wants !anyone back [04:28] <_linuxn00b> when i try to install xp it won't boot into the second part of the xp installation [04:28] _linuxn00b: cant you boot winxp thru grub? [04:28] AtlantisX, could I use your version? [04:28] <_linuxn00b> no... it says error loading operating system [04:28] Toma-: i have a pentium D which i want to compile a kernel for, it is EMT64 [04:28] <_linuxn00b> i tried fixmbr fixboot etc... and nothing === TecnoVM64 [n=tecnovm@201.243.233.40] has joined #ubuntu [04:28] Dido-: Lost it, sorry... But since I will have to redo it anyway, I'll send it to you then. [04:28] Toma-: should i compile amd64-generic? [04:28] hmmmmmmmm [04:28] Toma-: the installer picked amd64-xeon for me [04:28] cameron, I wouldn't bother to compile a custom kernel [04:28] there was a thread on emt64 on the ubuntu site [04:29] <_linuxn00b> i can get into the xp setup but when it reboots to complete the setup it just starts over... if that makes sense === mcjerry [n=mcjerry@ip68-99-175-230.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] Toma-: i just searched and couldnt find anything [04:29] but ill look again [04:29] mrkkoje: They used asterisk to setup a service after hurricane Katrina. You dialed into a 1-800 number, entered someone's phone number, and you could leave a message or play one. It helped people contact relatives. [04:29] _linuxn00b: so.. you install it, then you try running the 2nd part from the harddrive? === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu === Hericus [n=Hericus@212.247.71.254] has joined #ubuntu [04:30] AtlantisX, right thanks ;] any advices to install a good (tested) version before that [04:30] anybody know where i can find the cgi-bin directory? === Viking667 [i=viking@203.184.23.208] has joined #ubuntu [04:30] <_linuxn00b> yeah but all i get is "press any key to load from cd..." and if don't press a key it says 'error loading operating system' if i do press a key it goes through the first part of the setup again [04:30] Goldfish, oh thats cool... good use of the technology [04:30] cameron: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84747.html [04:30] got a really quick cloop question. What -t do I need for mount to mount an Ubuntu's filesystem.cloop? I've already got the cloop module loaded, all I need is what to tell "mount" [04:30] _linuxn00b you trying to get away from linux altogather ? or just trying to duel boot linux/winxp ? [04:30] mrkoje: I always like seeing Linux being used in the real world. Tells you it is more than a "geek fad" but instead reality. [04:30] _linuxn00b: and the "error laoding operating system" is coming after grub? === arcanus [n=magusna@r253097100.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] <_linuxn00b> Toma-: i beleive so... although it's not really saying anything about grub anymore [04:31] Toma-: i was hopinh to run an EMT64-SMP kernel but the one in the repo is out of date === aparra [n=ogan@113-110-99.adsl.cust.tie.cl] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: yes i am trying to go back to xp entirely [04:31] Dido-: Not sure but... [04:31] Goldfish, true [04:31] Dido-: You can always compile one yourself. [04:31] hi [04:31] hey anyone here use audacity? [04:31] <_linuxn00b> although i wouldnt mind a dualboot i can't get a single boot figured out so i thought i'd better keep it simple [04:31] AtlantisX, lol no i can't ;)) [04:31] siriusnova: i do [04:32] who know how see the proyects in a cvs server? [04:32] Dido-: apt-get build wine should do [04:32] Dido-: Or just do sudo apt-get upgrade, that may help as well. [04:32] Toma - stupid question, but when you have a sound file loaded, how do you jump do a spot within the sound file? [04:32] I just installed network-manager, and launched it by typing sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &. How can I get my system to run this everything I login? I was GNOME/ubuntu had something slicker than editing a .login file. [04:32] like say I want to use my mouse to jump to 5 seconds [04:33] after the song starts [04:33] Err...run this thing. [04:33] <_linuxn00b> ok... without a disk in the drive i all i get is "error loading operating system" nothing else [04:33] _linuxn00b duel boot might be easier for you. grub should be able to chainload xp but Toma- may have a link for you or something. [04:33] who know how see the proyects in a cvs server? ? [04:33] AtlantisX, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded" on apt-get upgrade ;[ [04:33] My PC has a dir named minidump... o.O I just hope this means a memory dump, not that my comp shit itself... >_> === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:34] Dido-: And sudo apt-get update? [04:34] Goldfish: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, Startup Programs tab [04:34] siriusnova: Edit > Snap-to > On, then click on 5 sec mark [04:34] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: thanks. ;) i wish i had left it as dualboot, that's when my problems started happening... === cstudent [n=cstudent@67.129.197.188] has joined #ubuntu [04:34] _linuxn00b: you should have asked when you tried dual booting [04:34] you might need a chainloader [04:34] Toma- got it thanks :), i was trying to click on the graph [04:34] AtlantisX, :)Fetched 39.6kB in 8s (4871B/s) [04:35] GRUB has to use a chainloader === rabeldable [n=rabeldab@adsl-69-109-118-28.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] <_linuxn00b> Toma-: yeah... i'm an idiot... :( all i want is my computer back!!! any suggestions on what to do from here? [04:35] audacity is really cool [04:35] to boot Windows partitions, anyways [04:35] i must say [04:35] _linuxn00b there is a wiki about howto setup duel winxp/ubuntu boot === root____1 [n=root@71-14-42-161.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] bimberi: Got it. Okay, I had to run that with & (in background). Do I need to include that with the command here? [04:35] any other cool apps I dont know about? [04:35] anybody ever install cgi:irc? [04:35] AtlantisX, two wine packs, i'll try it now ;) === root____1 is now known as Jairun === daveb_ [n=daveb@ool-457001d3.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:35] siriusnova: it really is. :) its even pretty good on windows :O [04:35] <_linuxn00b> ok... i'm going to go read the wiki [04:35] who know how see the proyects in a cvs server? [04:35] Dido-: Hope they are better... xD [04:35] siriusnova: hydrogen! [04:35] Goldfish: not sure, i'd add the & [04:35] what is the command to set the CC environment varible? [04:35] what is hydrogen? [04:35] <_linuxn00b> last question... can i install ubuntu before xp? === Trash[imposter] [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] <_linuxn00b> and still have a dual boot? === Trash[imposter] is now known as Trashcan === B_166-ER-X [n=oli@c207.134.134-180.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] siriusnova: why, the best app in the world has to be cowsay [04:36] Razor-X - good god I hate cowsay [04:36] Linuxn00b yes, but I've found it easier to install XP first [04:36] :P [04:36] I'll be back. Gonna log out and back in to test this. [04:36] _linuxn00b yes but you need to go to ubuntu.com and search the wiki for the howto [04:36] _linuxn00b: its pretty tricky. you need to use the windows boot laoder or use the ubuntu disk rescue mode [04:36] siriusnova: what?! [04:36] too many apps, we need a coolubuntuapps.com or something [04:36] _linuxn00b: xp will clobber your MBR - you will need to reinstall grub afterwards [04:36] Trying to find a cool app in synaptic is painful [04:37] siriusnova: Just make one... ;p [04:37] siriusnova: its a drum loop creator [04:37] i should [04:37] siriusnova: I have no problem. [04:37] siriusnova: what kinda app u after? [04:37] i should start up a CoolUbuntuApps.com [04:37] siriusnova: either browse categories or search [04:37] <_linuxn00b> frogzoo: how do i install xp??? it won't complete the the install when i try to do it... [04:37] Can someone tell me the command to set the CC variable, I need to compile new video drivers, but the default compiler is 4.0, I'm needing 3.4 [04:37] with interesting apps and reviews and a rating system [04:37] screenshots too [04:37] siriusnova: If you do, it will certainly be integrated in the community... [04:37] <_linuxn00b> haha i'm sooo frustrated!!! [04:37] hmmm [04:37] siriusnova: like icewalkers? [04:37] what is icewalkers? [04:38] siriusnova: b sure 2 include nethack-qt [04:38] i was thinking more along the lines of kde-apps.org [04:38] google. [04:38] Goldfish: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager no & required :) === panzer [n=panzer@215-11-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] siriusnova: do it as a wiki - mebbe plone? === intelikey finds it easiest to use multipul disks hda hdc ..... no trubble at all to do it that way. [04:38] frogzoo - yeah [04:38] too much work though :p [04:38] frogzoo: You mean nethack-qt as in apt-get nethack-qt? -.- [04:38] AtlantisX: u got it :) === sherlock [n=sherlock@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu === Goldfish [n=gregturn@user-0calf26.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] frogzoo: Just think the packets that are already registered don't have to be on a special site. === Mabus06 [n=Nick@hlfxns0149w-142177139001.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] _linuxn00b: can i ask what app you need to run for all this trouble? [04:39] siriusnova: how about.... emacs? :P [04:39] It works. Network Manager is pretty cool. I will have to take a little road trip sometime to Pinera to test this further. [04:39] i hate emacs with a passion [04:39] <_linuxn00b> my windows versions of the macromedia suite and photoshop [04:39] lol [04:39] AtlantisX, ba:( the same, take look on what i mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i5686 [04:40] emacs is more like its own operating system === intelikey bets it's .... hehhe too late :) === MotoHoss [i=abel@h141.223.102.166.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] AtlantisX: I have no trubs with the repo setup - but there needs to be a better way to browse the available pkgs for whats available [04:40] <_linuxn00b> and i had a lot of trouble getting apps to work in ubuntu in general === Nerened [n=Nerened@c-24-21-184-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === mitey [n=ubuntu@ip24-255-220-238.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] _linuxn00b: have you tried installing windows completely over everything else? [04:40] siriusnova: well, if an OS can fit in a filesize smaller than the average terminal emulator and remain flexible and customizable... hell, I'm sold :) [04:41] frogzoo: I'm fine with synaptic. o.O === MasterTsunami [n=MasterTs@unaffiliated/mastertsunami] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] _linuxn00b: depends which apps - the core apps are pretty straight forward - but theres the learning curve of a new OS to consider [04:41] siriusnova: and is overall functional [04:41] heh === tga [n=tga@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] <_linuxn00b> yeah... i have deleted all my partitions, and re-formatted them all and then tried a fresh xp install... and nothing. [04:41] frogzoo: you know synaptic can be browsed by category right? [04:41] AtlantisX: synaptic doesnt give you screenshots [04:41] hey.. my Gnome suddenly won't start, even in Failsafe mode.. what should I look at? [04:41] <_linuxn00b> yeah... that's where i got stuck [04:41] _linuxn00b: then its not a linux/grub problem... [04:42] <_linuxn00b> Toma-: what could it be? [04:42] ..for any user [04:42] if the windows install is saying it cant find itself, then its either a faulty install or faulty install cd :( [04:42] or a faulty operating system [04:42] siriusnova: I think under linux it would be appropriate to have those "you might also like" links... KDE, you might also like GNOME, iceWM etc... Get what I mean? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] <_linuxn00b> hmmm === martin [n=martin@83.72.97.61.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] <_linuxn00b> ok... i'm going to install ubuntu again as the primary os [04:42] AtlantisX: ... I wonder what'ld happen to ratpoison [04:42] AtlantisX: like sourceforge does [04:43] maybe it'ld be listed under screen [04:43] _linuxn00b: have you heard of crossover office? [04:43] This is fun. I really GNOME. I have been using KDE on my two other Debian machines, but the windows management on GNOME is cool. [04:43] <_linuxn00b> then i'll ask questions on how to get programs to work instead of how to get xp to work. ;) === MMMond [n=Bukkake@adsl-69-210-75-73.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] <_linuxn00b> yeah [04:43] where do I need to go to get help for codec on 64 system? [04:43] Razor-X: Hm? Ratpoison? The poor rats. T_T [04:43] <_linuxn00b> i'm trying not to buy anymore software... thats why i wanted to switch to linux. ;) === sherlock is now known as ^^rea^^ === Kindred [i=brandify@17.243.132.203.in-addr.wholesaledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] <_linuxn00b> but i thought wine would be enough... only i couldn't get it to install. ;) [04:43] ahh i see :) [04:43] <_linuxn00b> <--n00b [04:43] <_linuxn00b> ;) [04:43] Any idea what "twin: ALL DISPLAY DRIVERS FAILED. QUITTING" might mean? I don't really understand.. drivers? [04:43] martin: Kaffeine gives good instructions for getting codecs. [04:44] thank you [04:44] <_linuxn00b> well, thank you guys for all your help! [04:44] _linuxn00b: have you tried gimp? instead of photoshop... its not quite the same but its pretty powerful still [04:44] <_linuxn00b> what a great community! [04:44] _linuxn00b you could boot the live ub-cd and do a 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=20 bs=512 that will blank the mbr and partition tables then try installing xp afresh. [04:44] _linuxn00b: sudo apt-get install wine & youe done? running apps under wine though, can be troublesome [04:44] linuxn00b: It has been my experiment that leaving Windows requires a little dose of reality. You have to start learning stuff for yourself, not being dependent on M$ "helping you" anymore. But with that comes some remarkable feeling of liberation. My $0.02. === steven__ [n=steven@cpe-67-11-147-200.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] s/experiment/experience [04:45] hello everyone.... Does anyone have experience trying to setup jboss?? [04:45] <_linuxn00b> goldfish: i agree... i just don't know if i have the patience and the time to for the learning curve. ;) [04:45] kaffeine is for kde? [04:45] and not a codec but a player [04:45] Goldfish: Maybe, but the atmosphere here is way better than in MS support areas. You actually have fun hanging around here. [04:45] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: thanks! let me try that! [04:45] _linuxn00b my sujestion ^ assumes loosing all data on hda is acceptable. [04:45] MS support areas ??? [04:45] ubotu > dancing paperclip === kayatika [n=kayatika@c-24-0-39-51.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] i never knew such a thing existed :) [04:46] AtlantisX, is it possible wine to change to xp appereance or only 98 [04:46] techrush: They do, it's where all your personal info goes when you're not looking. xD [04:46] lol [04:46] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: i lost it long ago (i've probably reformatted my drives 5 times by now) ;) [04:46] linuxn00b: That is why I kept dual boot on my machine for so long, and also was tinkering with wine. My finally task will be to use turbotax.com this year, so that I don't need to buy a windows-based tax software package. [04:46] <_linuxn00b> haha [04:46] _linuxn00b k that's worth a try then. [04:46] Dido-: Not directly, but you can change appearance to WM skin and then set your WM skin to wimp. [04:46] linuxn00b: Should that prove successful, I will have eliminated the last reason to keep my dual boot partition around, and time to free up some wanting disk space. [04:46] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: i'm doing it now... [04:47] why does ubuntu come with gnome? many ppl don't wnat something that heavy [04:47] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: awesome! good luck with that! [04:47] vladuz976, that's why kubuntu was realeased [04:47] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: someday i'll be able to do that... [04:47] heavy? [04:47] anyone able to play avi files on ubuntu 64 version? [04:47] alekz: kubuntu is the same, too much === teenbot [n=ubuntu@host-69-145-181-134.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:47] really would like some help on this :( [04:47] LOL im running Ubuntu on a 400mhz PII dont tell me about heavy :P [04:47] vladuz976, xubuntu will be released :) [04:48] alekz: what's that/ [04:48] ? [04:48] its actually a lot faster then other distros [04:48] yes it is [04:48] martin i just wish i could afford a k7 [04:48] My experience has been that KNOPPIX live CD on this laptop was much lighter weight than ubuntu breezy live CD. Can that be laid at the feet of GNOME? I like to keep KNOPPIX around as a rescue CD. [04:48] try running SUSE or Mandrake on the same laptop [04:48] I have a temp dir of 0bytes... on windows... isn't that suspicious? I bet it's scheming something. [04:48] <_linuxn00b> brb... i'm going to try the live cd idea [04:48] intelikey lol :) [04:48] siriusnova: My laptop is 433 celeryonion processor. I know what you mean. [04:48] vladuz976, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu [04:48] hey can i download like msn messenger on here like onto the program for the time being ? [04:48] whats the use if you can't get anything to work on it... :) [04:49] AtlantisX, humm.. sounds hard to me ;0 i guess i'll just wait you to make your new version [04:49] ;) [04:49] teenbot: you want an msn client? [04:49] actually Ubuntu on my laptop isnt that bad, its a bit slow when you start opening up multiple firefoxes buts definetly not so slow that it becomes a pain [04:49] Face it...he want's the butterfly! [04:49] siriusnova: I use kubuntu with iceWM, works well even on lowmem PCs. [04:49] new to linux... but this is driving me nuts :) you can't play 32bit codec on 64bit system I read, and there are no 64bit codec - then what hell do you do :) [04:49] yeah i was just wondering if there was anyway to download msn messenger and then so i can use it [04:49] cool AtlantisX - im happy with Ubuntu :) === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu [04:49] lol goldfish [04:50] siriusnova i totally disagree with the 'faster than' statement. it is all in the setup. [04:50] martin, wonder how windows does it.. and why we need soo many closed-source codecs... [04:50] martin: You may have to run a 32-boot chroot. chroot is where you convert some subdirectory into the root directory. [04:50] anybody ever install cgi-irc? === robotgeek_away is now known as robotgeek [04:50] whats that [04:50] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: all i got was 'dd: opening 'dev/hda': No such file or directory' === no_gatez_fan [n=patrick@cpe-069-132-000-216.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] siriusnova: Both gnome and kde take about 30 seconds to start up and swap all the time on my pc... While iceWM doesn't even have perceivable loading time and is hell fast. [04:51] teenbot: try amsn or gaim [04:51] goldfish hmm.... guessing you don't have such a system... [04:51] teenbot: not really. there are alternatives, like gaim and kopete, i prefer amsn tho :) [04:51] The 64-bit architectures are really exposing what is open source and what has bits of closed stuff in them. The open source stuff is the stuff that was relatively easy to migrate. [04:51] AtlantisX, can i set some different icon on all exes by default, not one by one? [04:51] interesting [04:51] _linuxn00b look for /dev/ide/* it maybe long addressed. [04:51] martin: My mythtv box is AMD64, and I have debian 64 on it. However, I don't use to go for flashplayer type stuff. It was useless for about 4-months due to a 64-bit glibc error. [04:51] Atlantis it helps if you have more then 128mb of ram, i have 300mb on this laptop so its not bad [04:51] Dido-: No idea, sry. >_> [04:51] _linuxn00b or even /.dev/hda [04:51] <_linuxn00b> <---super linux n00b [04:51] hey toma is there anyway you can pm me really quick or does this program do that? [04:52] AtlantisX - well yeah icewm is pretty fast but i like Gnome :D [04:52] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: how do i look for it? [04:52] siriusnova: Just you wait, rich boy... xD === ColonelKernel [i=ponnet@12-218-155-108.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] gnome on ubuntu is much faster then KDE on mandrake [04:52] alekz: yeah that sounds much better, only thing, they should also take gdm out [04:52] ls /.dev [04:52] teenbot: i dont like private messages [04:52] makes me nervous [04:52] oo ok [04:52] vladuz976, tell them xD [04:52] *will get his new comp in a few days* xD [04:52] siriusnova: This thing suffered when it was 128M. I ordered 512M to ugprade it to the max. Certainly helps out a lot. Now I have ripped CD playing the background as I yak on this IRC channel via wireless. [04:52] i need a new laptop, they are cheap but im poor :P [04:52] alekz: wehre? === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-222-183-136.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === doofy` [n=doofy@c-67-177-240-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] vladuz976, dunno :P [04:52] _linuxn00b tab-completion works wonders. [04:52] yeah 128mb is pretty barebones considering X takes up what like 64mb ? [04:53] goldfish so you can play movies etc.? [04:53] siriusnova are you smoking crack ? [04:53] but like i just wanna run msn messenger while im running this program [04:53] I love tab-completion. I miss it every time I have to go back to Windows [04:53] goldfish sorry if I sound a little retarded :) but this is all new to me :P [04:53] i run x on 64m with no swap all the time. [04:53] you can try gaim [04:53] i can play movies on my 400mhz PII, high rez xvids in VLC run fine [04:53] well i meant gnome + x [04:53] Viking667, i think IE 7 has tabs :P [04:53] :P [04:53] kde :) [04:53] alekz: so I hear. [04:54] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: no go... i'm not sure what i'm doing. ;) [04:54] martin: I don't actually have a DVD/CD player on that machine. It records TV shows. It is pretty good at converting the stuff to MPEG4 on the CPU. [04:54] <_linuxn00b> i'm going to go back and read up on it [04:54] martin: Don't worry, microsoft wants everyone to think Linux is still all text'n'type. [04:54] I'm not bothered though, firefox is better. [04:54] <_linuxn00b> thanks for all the help guys. ;) [04:54] k [04:54] teenbot: download amsn and install it. then u can do whatever u want === rei [n=rei@61.9.68.244] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] <_linuxn00b> i'll stop wasting your guys' time. ;) [04:54] good luck with it _linuxn00b [04:54] Viking667, yeap have u tried firefox 1.5 ? [04:54] never a waste of time _linuxn00b === bimberi [n=bimberi@CWPP-p-203-54-191-207.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === wizatcomp [i=wizatcom@pool-162-83-75-214.fred.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] when i insert a DVD movie, it mounts, but there seems to be no content on it (at least from what nautilus shows)... it brings up the burn CD window [04:54] <_linuxn00b> thank you all! especially Toma-, intlikey and Goldfish! take care! [04:54] help! i am new with this linux...and ubuntu... === janopotter [n=janopott@pc-52-116-241-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] martin: I'll admit I'm bragging a little. Check it out---> http://www.mindspring.com/~gregturn/right_turn/id9.html [04:55] rei, ask pls [04:55] AtlantisX - im actually a FreeBSD guy so I know my unix, but Ubuntu i really really nice, setting it up was simple and everything is well thought out, GUI tools are sane and well planned. [04:55] doofy`: Totem? Or wine WMP. xDD [04:55] how can i install mplayer? [04:55] tama: but will it erase off of my computer when i take out this linux program ? === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] its not like Mandrake where every GUI tool looks different === _linuxn00b [n=b@69-162-143-96.clspco.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:55] SUSE + Ubuntu are the best distros when it comes to Usability IMHO [04:55] rei, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer [04:55] teenbot: no [04:56] well, AtlantisX it doesn't really matter what. browsing it with nautilus displays no content also [04:56] siriusnova: Yeh, thought the same. I was redhat fan before, but now I <3 Ubuntu xD [04:56] Ubuntu is "macos x ish :D) [04:56] suse was good untill I found this ubuntu [04:56] yeah well i already have it downloaded on my windows though [04:56] alekz, where do i type that? [04:56] rei, on a terminal [04:56] martin: I have tried playing DVDs on this laptop, mainly because this is my first DVD drive. Could have used a little more horsepower. Turned on DMA, and it was able to play okay. Stuttered occasionally. [04:56] Anyone using Firefox 1.5 have a bug that causes 100% CPU usage when trying to save a picture using the right click menu? [04:56] <_jason> rei, are you looking for mplayer or mplayerplug-in with mplayer? [04:56] siriusnova: The MacosX feel comes from gnomes taskbar... xDD [04:56] and the use of sudo [04:56] i think its an mplayer only... [04:56] <_jason> rei, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto [04:56] os x uses sudo in a similar way === Hericus [n=Hericus@212.247.71.254] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] i just downloaded it...and some plug ins i think [04:57] !wiki MPlayerInstallHowto [04:57] AtlantisX - true, Gnome is turning into Mac OS X lite lol [04:57] hey.. my Gnome suddenly won't start, even in Failsafe mode.. what should I look at? [04:57] goldfish looks awesome :) [04:57] Where is ubotu! === Goldfish is crying.... [04:57] !hello [04:57] I find sudo a reasonable thing, you can't accidentally do a root-and-HD-goes-bang command. [04:57] :( === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] it took me a day or 2 to get used to it === _smd_ [n=shea@wnpgmb09dc1-91-86.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] but now im fine with it [04:58] sudo is a good idea, running as root is a BAD idea [04:58] what source for apt holds all the java packages for ubuntu again? [04:58] Not like could happen to you before... "rm -rf /" Oh shit, I though I was still logged on as normal user and wanted to joke around... xD [04:58] MacOS X has a similar set up === drew [n=drew@12-215-76-143.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] alekz, it says it couldnt find the package mozilla-mplayer [04:59] would i be able to leave this running all night like i would windows? [04:59] rei: mozdev.org was the site, I think. [04:59] sudo is super-user do (run as root) btw [04:59] anyone have experience with twinview? [04:59] I admit I was apprehensive when I heard sudo was ubuntu's default setup. But I have gotten used to it, and like having the auth.log audit trail. Makes command distinctly feel user or admin oriented. === mitey [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/mite] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] is it safe to remove xterm if i'm not using it? [04:59] drew, yes === darknature_ [n=darknatu@ip68-226-219-225.lf.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] drew, did you read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README ? [04:59] vr^238 i wouldnt === JairunCaloth [n=daniel@71-14-42-161.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] techrush: why not === gnu2it2 [n=kgrimm@cpe-069-134-161-191.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === _linuxn00b [n=b@69-162-143-96.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] AtlantisX, any ideas? [05:00] does anybody know what the font is called that is used on checks on the bottom, it's sort of a monospace to not confuse numbers, i want that font for my terminal [05:00] yes i have [05:00] what is the name of the X configuration tool? [05:00] intelikey: Yeh... Didn't understand the word the first few days, just used it... Then it came to me... "su... do..." As SU do! Aha! xD [05:00] MICR [05:00] well for one thing why would you want to remove it ? [05:00] its not large [05:00] Magnetic Ink Character Recognition font [05:00] for another thing i just easily recovered my install that i broke with it [05:00] ..and looked through many articles [05:00] Unfortunately this laptop doesn't have an nvidia card. Instead it has ATI Rage mobility. I can use every piece of hardware acceleration possible to squeeze the limits out of this old laptop. [05:00] so id keep it around [05:00] techrush: i installed aterm, and i also use gnome-terminal [05:00] techrush: alright, thanks [05:00] laduz: that is not just a font [05:01] doofy`: Sry, what was your last line? Can't find it. xD [05:01] my second monitor stays scrambled [05:01] it's a specification [05:01] (im kinda new at this) i was wondering like what exactly the terminal is ? i cant seem to figuere it out === MrDel [n=MrDel@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] AtlantisX, when I explore the dvd with nautilus it doesn't even show any content [05:01] teenbot: are you using GUI ? [05:01] Hrhr, okay, let the everlasting discussion begin: What is your favorite terminal? [05:01] vr^238 the GDM login option "terminal mode" or some such launches x-term and you never know yu just may need that mode sometime.....i know i just did and it saved my @$$ === mfuentes [n=mario@200.54.6.220] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] terminal is an application that mimics what were once dumb terminals hooked up to servers, offering only command line interfaces. [05:01] xterm is a program that pretends to be an old dumb serial terminal [05:01] aterm!!!!!!!! [05:01] im using ubuntu linux [05:02] doofy`: Not sure, maybe you really didn't burn it right? [05:02] techrush: good to know, thanks :) [05:02] and then you can type commands in with it [05:02] teenbot: You don't say! [05:02] doofy what are you using to burn your dvd? [05:02] And when we are done with that... What is your favorite editor/word processor? xD [05:02] its not burned, theyre commercial [05:02] can anyone help with my twinview woes? [05:02] why is that goldfish lol [05:02] hehhe i always uninstall base-system and other meda-packages that get in the way of my freely adminning my system.... but that is not a sujestion to the newbee [05:03] doofy`: Country code problem? [05:03] hm would that do it? === mattsm [n=mattsm@cpe-70-112-34-78.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] apt-get regionset [05:03] why is this a pretty old program ? [05:03] how come nothing works? [05:03] rei can you narrow that quarry just a little ? [05:03] teenbot, which? [05:04] rei, things work. What are you talking about? [05:04] and another small question: how can I save the mere things gone by in the terminal.. being that it would be something like: > text.txt --or something === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] <_linuxn00b> is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade recommended after a fresh ubuntu install? [05:05] why does my laptop mouse (touchpad+clit) stop working with ubuntu at random [05:05] MMMond: | destination if I remember right [05:05] MMMond: You mean how to make every command dump a copy of its results into a raw text file without you expressly typing that append operation? [05:05] MMMond: But maybe that was DOS, not sure. [05:05] Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab === maud__dib [n=ben@0-1pool49-134.nas1.madisonville1.ky.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] ive never had that issue with any other distro [05:05] thats from Totem [05:05] tritus: what do ya mean/ [05:05] I need help setting up my 2nd monitor with twinview [05:05] mitey: I had touch mousepads. First thing I ordered for this laptop was a USB mouse +hub. Ahh. === JRlinux [n=JRlinux@gw02.applegatebroadband.net] has joined #ubuntu === arod-- [n=n3lly@ool-435154a6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === GhostXz [n=wookie@Quebec-HSE-ppp3613994.sympatico.ca] has joined #Ubuntu [05:06] s/had/hate [05:06] doofy`: I wouldn't use Totem, it is stupid. xD But that is not your problem I guess. [05:06] teenbot, which are you calling an old program? === curtis--mac [n=curtishu@c-67-170-91-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] Goldfish, i wont hook a mouse up to this. the clit is perfect. [05:06] i want a reason not a rhyme :P [05:06] <_linuxn00b> is apt-get upgrade and apt-get update general commands to update/upgrade all packages? === vr^238 is now known as vr^ [05:06] java-package_0.26_all.deb [05:06] well see i dont really know much about this yet im trying to learn more about it [05:06] mitey: The clit? [05:06] MMMond bash has command history already? if you want to save the output of commands you could redirrect them >file but if you do that with interactive commands (like rm -i * ) you wont see the questions they ask. also you may be thinking of redirecting stderr 2> errors.txt [05:06] Goldfish: yes, I think yes, what you said [05:06] _linuxn00b: No [05:06] im using ubunu linux [05:07] yes, the mouse clit === phil_ [n=phil@dsl017-073-218.chi4.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] <_smd_> mwhahaha [05:07] bwahah === AtlantisX read "clit" and became interested. [05:07] <_linuxn00b> fushi: so you have to specify what package to update then? [05:07] if you dont know what im talking about, then stfu ;) [05:07] intelikey: I don't think I'm going for command history.. being that would be the things I type? I want the entire thing gone by.. if you know what I mean. Sorry for my ignorant terminology [05:07] okay, you've had your fun with that [05:07] _linuxn00b: update juts updated the source.list [05:07] MMMond: Not sure. Just trying to get my arms around what you were asking. Not sure.... [05:07] how can i install 'debhelper' [05:07] AtlantisX: lol Yeah...I was double checking what he wrote there.... [05:07] whats all this about the clit? [05:08] MMMond read the rest of my post i covered that [05:08] this is probably the wrong channel to find out about that [05:08] Goldfish: I think what you said first is what I want . . . dumping it on to a file, that seems right in a familiar way [05:08] hmm my Gnome won't start whatever I do [05:08] arod--, sudo apt-get install debhelper [05:08] Toma-, i have a touch pad and a clit mouse on my laptop [05:08] AtlantisX, how can I figure out which drive my DVD drive is? [05:08] intelikey: alright, I'll reread :) [05:08] I only have ICE stuff in my .xsession-errors [05:08] Goldfish: I got mental autohighlighting for words like that... xD [05:08] tritium i did that, failed to install [05:08] enough, please, mitey [05:08] interesting... is it pink :D~ [05:08] and running ubuntu... my mouse will suddenly stop taking input from both [05:08] <_linuxn00b> fushi: i just need a standard library with basic apps [05:08] <_smd_> hehe me a girl and laughedat clit! [05:08] arod--, what happened when you tried? [05:08] any idea what IceTrans is? [05:08] therefore my 'mouse' is rendered useless [05:08] <_linuxn00b> fushi: i folowed this guide here: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu.html [05:08] hey how do i search for an app using apt-get [05:09] <_linuxn00b> fushi: but i coudn't get anything to work after that [05:09] siriusnova: apt-cache search app [05:09] k thanks [05:09] ah i think i got it [05:09] sudo apt-get install clit [05:09] siriusnova: apt-cache... nevermind! [05:09] :P [05:09] mitey: Okay....I get it. I don't have one of those. I hate those more than touch pad mice. [05:09] Goldfish, you should read lool [05:09] what should i install for wardriving, kismet? [05:09] i have a touch pad AND clit mouse. i have said that 3 times :P === techrush [n=techrush@ip68-104-90-114.lv.lv.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:10] intelikey: won't see the questions they ask? sorry, I don't understand. === techrush [n=techrush@ip68-104-90-114.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:10] _linuxn00b: Sorry, I don't have the time to really help you at the moment, i'm off to bed, sorry. [05:10] mitey: Touching is good... [05:10] mitey, please move that talk to #ubuntu-offtopic [05:10] <_linuxn00b> fushi: ok, thanks! ;) [05:10] _linuxn00b: I'm sure someone else though with more experience will though :D === B1zz [n=cgomez@69-169-94-167.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:10] <_linuxn00b> fushi: sleep good! [05:10] MMMond: Not sure I can see how to do that. Each command spawns a new subprocess. I was thinking something like "csh | tee output.txt" might dump each command in that subshell... [05:10] Thanks XD [05:10] AtlantisX, when I insert a DVD movie I should at least be able to explore it and see the .vob's, etc correct? [05:10] G'nite everyone [05:10] doofy`: yes === fushi is now known as FushizZz === darknature [n=darknatu@ip68-226-219-225.lf.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] doofy`: No, your system can't mount it you just said. [05:11] you people are retarded === mitey [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/mite] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:11] <_linuxn00b> everyone: i have a fresh ubuntu install... first step to get basic apps? === Goldfish tucks fushi in, and reads him a bedtime story. [05:11] AtlantisX, it mounts and shows up on the desktop, theres just nothing in the mounted folder === Bronx_Kev [i=Bronx_Ke@cpe-065-184-031-185.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu === ogami1972 [n=michael@24-155-228-125.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] doofy`: >_> That is ebil. === B1zz [n=cgomez@69-169-94-167.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] to redirect stdout use > standard_output.txt to redirect stderr use 2> standard_error.txt to pipe to another app use stdout |app or stderr 2|app respectivly. mmmond it means when you redirect output it doesn't copy the output it litterally puts it some place besides the screen. it all you want is to copy the output use the mouse. [05:12] _linuxn00b: What apps do you want [05:12] linuxn00b: When I did a ubuntu install, it came with basic apps. Are you hinting at getting some more basic apps? === vendetta [n=vendetta@nat01-hardenburgh-ext.Rutgers.EDU] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o tritium] by ChanServ [05:12] AtlantisX, any ideas? I know the DVDs work and have stuff on them [05:12] When I said "history," I didn't mean command history.. history being the text passed up .. whatever it is, suppose I just want the current session that I see now in a file, and want to dump that into a file . . . how would I go about do this? === Wookie [n=Wookie@Quebec-HSE-ppp3613994.sympatico.ca] has left #Ubuntu [] === techrush [n=techrush@ip68-104-90-114.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] any good game channels that might point me in the right direction of a good linux game? === mode/#ubuntu [+b %mitey!*@*] by tritium [05:12] AtlantisX, when I insert the DVD and it automounts the burn CD wizard pops up. === Wookie [n=Wookie@Quebec-HSE-ppp3613994.sympatico.ca] has joined #Ubuntu [05:12] _linuxn00b: synaptic is a good place to search for w/e you want :D [05:12] doofy`: Nope, no idea right now. >_> === mode/#ubuntu [-o tritium] by tritium [05:12] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: haha... yeah i need a bittorrent client, and some way to listen to aac's? [05:12] Toma-, any ideas? [05:13] _linuxn00b: bittornado.com [05:13] does anyone know what IceTrans is? as in ICEauthority? [05:13] <_linuxn00b> Fushi: i had bad luck with synaptic... kept getting error messages... [05:13] doofy`: is it multisession? [05:13] _linuxn00b: That's my fav client, python based. [05:13] <_linuxn00b> it's updating right now... i'll have specifics sooon [05:13] Also, to "dump" a file . . . I assume that is the correct terminology for this? And I saw two signs you guys used: | and > . . . I thought myself it would be > something.txt -- any hints on that? [05:13] there is a plugin for beep media player (bmp) that plays aacs [05:13] Oh, :x [05:13] <_linuxn00b> thanks AtlantisX [05:13] Toma-, no they're commercial [05:13] <_linuxn00b> i'll get it [05:13] Well go with what AtlantisX said :) [05:13] wow... weird [05:13] MMMond: Try this, I just did it... "bash | tee output.txt" [05:13] ok ok, sleep >_> [05:13] MMMond in a terminal do this 'ls > list ' and then do 'less list ' maybe that will help you see what is happening. [05:14] <_linuxn00b> cya fushi === guru54 [n=guru@dialup-4.244.36.2.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] doofy`: its probably using the wrong format eg, udf and so on [05:14] <_linuxn00b> <--brb [05:14] or even 'cat list' [05:14] Toma-, what kind of fix is there for that? [05:14] MMMond: That will dump all the results of your commands in the new subshell to both the screen and the flat file. I did that, and typed "ls" and "ps -ef". After exiting the sub bash shell, I had some raw results in output.txt. [05:14] doofy`: no idea === marfis [n=marfis@i3ED6E2D3.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] <_smd_> and he came over, and actually moved desks to sit with us #1, #2 AND #3 and we were like we were in grade5 GIRLS trying to talk to this guy. wish i spoke Russian and oh wow, I know i could make things go like fireworks. but NOOOO it was time for me to go home which i ended up staying at hsc and st.b for the night........ but tomorrow will be a hell of alot better! === Fisher [i=Bronx_Ke@cpe-065-184-031-185.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] tee is a command to route the output to two places, one to the screen, the other to a flat file. [05:15] <_smd_> holy crap oops === jgrieves [n=jgrieves@cpe-66-25-129-237.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] jgrieves [05:15] Goldfish yes i hesitated to move on to forking until redirecting was grasped. [05:15] goldfish yes - 54% [05:15] Fisher yes? [05:15] fisher [05:15] Fisher: Ehh? [05:15] fisher: ehh? [05:16] anyone have a really good recommendation for a python book? [05:16] reisio doesn't use python bindings for running periodic jobs [05:16] intelikey, hey, this is a clean channel here :) [05:16] that capital 'f' makes all the funny thing is some time with too lazy to clean out the x86 one which i havent done [05:16] nobody ever install cgi:irc? [05:16] nobody has the sis 730/630 === mode/#ubuntu [+o crimsun] by ChanServ === jgrieves kicks Fisher [05:16] jgrieves, dive into python, freely available as an ubuntu package [05:16] it was available ? [05:16] <_jason> jgrieves, did you do 'dive into python' yet? [05:16] didnt really try that that's always comes up on the external hist against my desktop properties i cant choose in my kernel yet? === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] jgrieves: Yeah, this one is online. http://diveintopython.org. The guy breaks up useful problems line by line. [05:16] exit my wm it can't see some changes that breaks this time ;) [05:16] sethk ? [05:16] personally, i'd call old messed up the startup scripts re-vitalized ? === mode/#ubuntu [+b %*!*@cpe-065-184-031-185.carolina.res.rr.com] by crimsun [05:16] anyone know where i can locate eggdrop.conf? === thezanke [n=thezanke@12-222-4-40.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] Goldfish, also installed on your machine ;) [05:16] intelikey, no forking allowed === Goldfish does a high five with _jason. === maud__dib [n=ben@0-1pool49-134.nas1.madisonville1.ky.us.da.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:17] tritium: Really? Cool! [05:17] thanks guys, im a book kind of guy though [05:17] though i am getting that now :) [05:17] jgrieves: You can also buy it. === _jason high fives Goldfish back === intelikey renices sethk's xserver === Darkhack [n=Darkhack@64-126-93-142-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net] has joined #ubuntu === vr^ [i=vr@130-105.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] is it possible to set up a proxy on this ubuntu machine that i can use at other places (like the ones that you find a www.proxz.com) [05:17] Goldfish, yep...diveintopyton is the package name [05:17] intelikey, h e y s t o p t h a t [05:17] "I feel the need...the need for speed." [05:17] any know if Dapper will fix the boot bug with some mobo's. I happen to have a system where Breezy freezes at the "Detecting CDROM" stage. [05:17] :) === cowbud [i=flairs@pool-71-97-246-120.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === GhostXz [n=wookie@Quebec-HSE-ppp3613994.sympatico.ca] has left #Ubuntu [] [05:18] coag: "locate eggdrop.conf", if no results, try updating the locate database with "sudo updatedb" and retry [05:18] python novice to professional [05:18] looks like the same book [05:18] different subject matter? [05:18] bimberi: ahh i forgot about updatedb === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu === vskye [n=vskye@24-72-196-108.cm-dynip.usadig.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] Goldfish does it go into syntax or just examples? [05:19] Goldfish i'm a C++ programmer [05:19] Goldfish i understadn the metanlity is a bit different === butcherbird [n=butcherb@12-222-233-82.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] and i dont change quickly :) [05:19] jgrieves: python is really quite simple [05:19] jgrieves, please don't use the enter key as punctuation. Use complete sentences [05:19] i learned it before i went on to C++ [05:20] tritium ....wow...ok [05:20] is that how all C++ programmers spell ????? no wonder apps are buggy. [05:20] intelikey sorry i am legallly blind hard for me to see the text right now [05:20] intelikey don't use this machine much :) [05:21] ah enough said === walkingice [n=walkingi@220-132-63-117.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] phew there we go, hey i didn't type THAT bad :) [05:21] anyone recommend a good cpu temp monitoring app w/gui ? biostar mb amd sempron [05:21] jgrieves: This thing has simple, understandable examples used for real world situations. The guys pulls these simple examples apart line-by-line. I loved it. P.S. I just book-marked file:///usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/index.html in Firefox. :) [05:21] bimberi: how long should updatedb take? === Knorrie [n=knorrie@2002:915e:9ab4:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu === logical_mark [n=mark@adsl-212-213-78.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] Goldfish thanks [05:22] coag: it can be quite a while :) === Knorrie [n=knorrie@2002:915e:9ab4:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu [05:22] coag, depends on the drive size, machine speed. Probably 5 to 15 minutes [05:22] bimberi: woo [05:22] Hey, can someone reccomend a visual FTP client that dosn't suck? === janopotter [n=janopott@pc-52-116-241-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:22] I think I got it now, thanks Goldfish and intelikey === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:22] sethk: 12 gig 1.3 [05:22] jgrieves, no worries :) === seth_k [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu [05:22] logical_mark, midnight commander? :) [05:22] I hate it when apps autoadapt to your system language... >_> It's english here but with german menus... Confusing... xD === vladuz976 [n=vladuz97@pool-71-106-208-30.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:22] <_linuxn00b> do i have to be running root to install apps? === mike01 [n=mike01@d47-69-131-239.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] jgrieves: I've done C++, Java, you name it. Anybody every heard of Forte 4GL? I studied Python so I could utilize pywikipediabot to manage a wiki site. A real cool package from sourceforge.net. [05:23] butcherbird: Is it in the SPM? [05:23] sudo [05:23] yesudo [05:23] :) [05:23] coag, closer to 5 than 15 [05:23] lol @ intelikey [05:23] would i get flamed if i said i enabled root in debian? [05:23] butcherbird: nevermind I looked [05:23] err [05:23] ? [05:23] in ubuntu rather [05:23] ahh! finished [05:23] intelikey: yesudo? Is that when your comp refuses to do something even as sudo? xD [05:24] coag, no, but you would be laughed at if you managed to screw your system by accident with it [05:24] Hobbsee: :) [05:24] Goldfish cool, i'm afraid it takes me quite a while to feel really comfortable with a language, as i am not a programming prodigy :) [05:24] AtlantisX that was the answer to "<_linuxn00b> do i have to be running root to install apps?" [05:24] jgrieves: Is it a hobby, or are you a professional software engineer? [05:24] coag: i've enabled root a couple of times - when i've screwed it up so badly...but i didnt like running as root! [05:24] i dont run as root [05:24] i jstu don't liek to sudo every command [05:24] have a simple question any help? [05:25] so one terminal is open as root [05:25] Goldfish yes :) [05:25] intelikey: next step would then be "yesudo or i will become nice -20" xD [05:25] and it's on my fourth desktop === CuriousCat [n=CuriousC@203.177.88.26] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] hello! [05:25] jgrieves: Yes to which? [05:25] Could anyone tell me how to run a .sh file? I seem to have forgotten how to do so. :"> [05:25] yes to both :) im still in school, doing a co-op right now though, and some of the stuff is python [05:25] CuriousCat: sh blah.sh [05:25] jgrieves: Of course, I didn't say I was really comfortable with Python. I just like the concepts. I still go back to that web page while trying to write a python app. Still an experiment for me. Haven't embraced python GUIs yet. [05:25] <_linuxn00b> how do i install bittornado from terminal? === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-179-152.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-179-152.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] <_linuxn00b> or synaptic [05:26] bimberi: thanks [05:26] coag if you type 'sudo ' you SuperUser DO or run blah as root. [05:26] CuriousCat: np :) [05:26] _linuxn00b: Which format is it? [05:26] intelikey: i know that === Urthmover [n=Urthmove@207.14.24.2] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] jgrieves: Languages never really become real until you have a real problem you are trying to solve, and you use a new language to do it. That is when the rubber hits the road. [05:26] <_linuxn00b> AtlantisX: what do you mean? linux or the program? [05:26] can any1 tell me a cd burner file ? [05:26] intelikey: it's just less typing if i'm alread su'd in [05:26] i think what coag is saying is typing sudo is annoying [05:26] CuriousCat: you hit the wrong room today? :) [05:26] techrush: yup you have it [05:26] _linuxn00b: What is the file extension of the file you downloaded? [05:27] Goldfish yep, seems like python is becoming really popular though [05:27] coag: ``sudo -s'' does the trick [05:27] mike01: don't understand "cd burner file"? [05:27] Razor-X: hey do I know you? [05:27] <_linuxn00b> i haven't yet... but it will be .zip or .tar.gz [05:27] Razor-X: Also, after 2 or 3 sudos it keeps sudo status. [05:27] coag yeah even on systems like ub i always set the root passwd and uninstall sudo. [05:27] PHP is also becoming popular. I can only bite off one cool language at a time, so I picked Python. I have tried eyeballing other places to use it. [05:27] coag: maybe === jackmacokc [n=7f000001@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === ernesto [n=ernesto@201.216.205.161] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] hmm [05:27] coag: I dunno, depends where you've seen me, if you've seen me :) [05:27] _linuxn00b: -.- [05:28] nalioth: naah. :D just forgot to logon to offtopic [05:28] want to burn cds using ubuntu bager [05:28] Razor-X: you have probably helped me in here before [05:28] AtlantisX: actually, just one sudo does the trick [05:28] coag: oh yeah, that could be too [05:28] Somebody built an expect-like module for python, and definitely caught my attention. When I saw they had HTTP libraries, CORBA stuff, and an Oracle package, then I saw definite potential. [05:28] I have a question realated to video streaming [05:28] anyone every configured a player to do NSV format? [05:28] Razor-X: lol right. I tend to close terminals after I don't need 'em anymore, though. [05:28] again new here [05:28] that's the winamp video internet tv one [05:28] AtlantisX: I'm in a terminal right now :) [05:28] mike01: Nautilus can burn data cd's (Go -> CD/DVD Creator), otherwise there's Gnomebaker, Graveman, k3b ... [05:28] Razor-X: irssi? [05:29] I've read a few docs on it...but still can't get it to stream [05:29] Goldfish yeah, a lot like perl [05:29] Goldfish thanks and others who recommended, will be goofing off with that package for a while :) [05:29] Urthmover it is possible on linux ive heard but i could never get it working [05:29] mplayer is your best bet [05:29] <_linuxn00b> AtlantisX: so which should i download? [05:29] AtlantisX: emacs using erc :) [05:29] Anybody is connected to msn messenger using gaim? [05:29] yeah it's a bummer cause I want my misty === Xenguy [n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] _linuxn00b: the tar.gz one [05:29] :-( boo === czer323 [n=czer323@cpe-71-66-243-195.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] ernesto yep [05:29] thank you will look and again thank you... [05:29] Razor-X: Oh no, an emacsanatic. >_> [05:29] I know PERL has lots of these same modules, and in fact had them first. But I lost some of my taste for PERL's syntax. [05:29] mike01: yw :) [05:29] jgrieves: I cannot connect [05:30] AtlantisX: no, I just find it more convenient to use an app that has emacs movement control 's all [05:30] AtlantisX: plus, thanks to MULE I can say stuff like ``Sony Libri'' === jackmacokc [n=7f000001@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] <_linuxn00b> AtlantisX: ok... do just search for it in synaptic? [05:30] What I use a lot is tclsh/expect, because I need to automate other command line tools that are poorly lacking in script power. [05:30] :) [05:30] there he goes again... ;) [05:30] tritium: :P [05:30] _linuxn00b: No, now unpack it. ^^ === jackmacokc [n=7f000001@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] <_linuxn00b> done... ;) [05:30] <_linuxn00b> sorry i'm such a n00b [05:30] Razor-X: -.- === jackmacokc [n=7f000001@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:31] ernesto what is error? === AtlantisX is successful with women and therefore can't be a geek. >_< [05:31] jgrieves: it never connect [05:31] AtlantisX: meh [05:31] linuxn00b: Just think, you have probably forgotten more new linux commands than many Windows users ever learned in the first place! [05:31] may be it is a wrong configuration of the net [05:31] Razor-X: Hehehe. ;p [05:31] any tip? [05:31] ernesto just tested again yep [05:31] AtlantisX: I'm successful with neither men nor women (in any sense of the phrase you want to imagine, if you want to twist it, be my guest :) [05:32] is your nic working? === Goldfish wonders what the heck AtlantisX is doing in an IRC chat channel, then. [05:32] can u connec to the internet [05:32] jgrieves: thank you [05:32] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: haha === Penguin [i=penguin@penguin.thezooclan.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] Razor-X: Well, the dependancies are more complex than any apt you will ever encounter... xD === dr_willis [n=willis@12-222-81-183.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === agtnz [n=agt1@222-153-80-218.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] AtlantisX: meh [05:32] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: can you help me? i've got the package unpacked... [05:32] _linuxn00b would you stop aplogizing for being green every two minutes. every one of us had our first day in the linux corts, we all understand. if we didn't we wouldn't be trying to help. k :) [05:32] AtlantisX: humans are... complicated, I find compiling my own kernel *much* simpler [05:32] :) [05:33] jgrieves System > Administratrion > Network === agtnz [n=agt1@222-153-80-218.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] Is there an easy way to reset the sound system? [05:33] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: won't say it again... thanks [05:33] ernesto System > Administratrion > Network [05:33] Razor-X: So masturbation it is, okay... xD [05:33] welcome. [05:33] if your network card isn't working that's a whole nother story === TecnoVM64 [n=tecnovm@201.243.233.40] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] AtlantisX: eh! my secret exposed?! :P [05:33] linuxn00b: Okay, you were installing bittornado? [05:33] AtlantisX: anyways, let's keep it family appropriate again [05:34] unless you want to come into offtopic [05:34] Razor-X: xDD [05:34] hehe [05:34] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: yes... it's downloaded and unpacked in /home [05:34] czer323: ctrl-alt-del? Heheheh [05:34] Razor-X: Sorry, reading bash QDB too much. >_> [05:34] haha, actually I think that's what got me in trouble the first time. ;) [05:34] i want to set up a lan network to share my internet connection with a xp, should i use samba [05:34] AtlantisX: I can guess :P [05:34] I had to alt-ctrl-del because my gnome crashed while I was messing with drop shadows. [05:34] linuxn00b: BRB [05:35] Dido-, no === Knorrie [n=knorrie@2002:915e:9ab4:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu === Pedrolito [n=Pedrolit@HSE-Toronto-ppp169995.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] hmmm...I have my system all configured the way I want it, never got to this point before....now what the heck do I do? heh [05:35] <_smd_> Why would beep control my sound? even ifi have my sound up in every program i have? [05:35] AtlantisX, I was able to get the DVD to be readable (mounted it at /media/dvd) now I am getting this output from vlc when I try to play /media/dvd http://pastebin.com/461817 [05:35] czer323: why ctrl-alt-del ? [05:35] Dido-, samba has nothing to do with an internet connection [05:35] _linuxn00b i haven't been keeping up with exactly what you are doing but i did catch a .tar.gz if you are going to compile from source, do your self a favour and look in the sub-dir it unpacked to for any files with cap NAMES and read them. [05:35] Hmm.. Okay, wondering about the reaction... I am german! Yes! Me! xD [05:35] Dido: Yeah. It may be handy to find a windows version of putty for your windows workstation. Let's you ssh to your linux server. === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] Is downloading the dvd instead of the iso worth it? [05:35] czer323: why not ctrl-alt-bkspc [05:35] rabeldable> Cause my x interface was frozen. ahh, yeah. That's what I did. ;) bkspace is different from delete. [05:35] AtlantisX: I know another German who said something really really similar [05:36] AtlantisX: :P [05:36] <_linuxn00b> intlikey: i'm trying to install bittornado [05:36] IM ALIVE!!! [05:36] lol [05:36] <_linuxn00b> i have unpacked the tar.gz file [05:36] doofy`: is this backports? [05:36] does ctrl-alt-bkspc exit gracefully? or is it a panic option? [05:36] Please give me solutions guys ;) I'm a pure newbie [05:36] one thing I dont get though, when i right click something in firefox and try to save-as, firfox closes. Doesnt freeze or crash, just closes... any ideas? [05:36] Razor-X: Always waiting for Nazi talk. At a certain point you feel unwelcome without someone saying Heil Heitler. xD [05:36] robotgeek, assuming i dont know what that is. no. [05:36] rabeldable> but now my sound isn't working with xmms and other audio codecs. I tested the multimiedia systems selector and the audio worked with the beep. === Mr_President [i=icechat5@210-246-17-178.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:37] I am no Nazi, though. Just to stress that. xD [05:37] AtlantisX: If Hitler has a place for one non-white Aryan in his heart, I'm his [05:37] linuxn00b: I just installed bittornado on my machine, and it doesn't list anything in the "home" partition. How did you get this, using synaptic? [05:37] doofy`: dapper? [05:37] AtlantisX: :P (I mean, I am *technically* part Aryan) [05:37] breezy [05:37] hi all [05:37] can we stay on topic please? [05:37] please don't discuss nazi stuff here [05:37] AtlantisX: yeah, let's go into offtopic [05:37] doofy`: you arent using standar breezy? or did you do anything funky with your system? [05:37] mrkoje, Goldfish, tritium Please give me solutions guys ;) I'm a pure newbie [05:37] czer323: it sounds like you might have a messed up xmms library... [05:37] AtlantisX: we're having an.... engaging... discussion there === nightelf [n=nightelf@12-210-19-114.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:37] _linuxn00b read any README or INSTALL or other CAP_NAME files in the dir it unpacked to. that is where the packager puts installation instructions. [05:38] robotgeek, nothing that funky I know of [05:38] linuxb00b: I used synaptic, and if you right-click an installed package, and pick the Installed Files, it will list every file it installed on your system. [05:38] Does anyone know how to change double-click speeds for gtk apps? [05:38] linuxn00b: You then look for the /usr/bin/ stuff, indicating the runnables. [05:38] rabeldable> totem had the same problem. Error: uh wtf... Now its' working. nm. === god [n=god@65-100-250-22.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] Mr_President: System -> Preferences -> Mouse [05:38] wow [05:38] god has joined chat #ubuntu. [05:38] I think linuxn00b downloaded some source package instead of installing the runnable package from synaptic. Sounds a little complicated to me. [05:38] god actually needs help, though. With JRE. [05:39] bimberi, how to change cursors? [05:39] my shipit box arrived, after 2 weeks [05:39] I'm gonna be the first to talk to god - hello god [05:39] my sound sometimes is being used by something else.. then when I try t open the app that failed again the sound is available === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] doofy`: i would recommend that you file a bug. Do u have the libdvdcss stuff? [05:39] I thought god was all knowing? === thundr [n=thundr@66-168-50-185.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] czer323: IT's all lites. [05:39] !test [05:39] lies* [05:39] robotgeek, yes [05:39] Goldfish compiling from source is not for the faint of heart, no. [05:39] <_jason> god, resurrect ubotu so that he may tell you where the javadebs are [05:39] Hmm Im new to Linux and I love Ubuntu [05:39] failes cafuego [05:39] czer323: that's God. This is god [05:39] Dido-: same place, but i don't know how to install new ones [05:39] I'm trying to install bittornado myself to check it out... [05:39] I need to install JRE into mozilla plugins but it won't work [05:40] bah, compiling from source isnt so bad, just read the README files after you tar [05:40] anyone log on who has a solution to playing avi files in ubuntu 64 version? [05:40] I don't think that works for apps like xmms [05:40] <_jason> god, what have you tried/ how have you tried isntalling java so far? [05:40] grr [05:40] Mr_President: k :/ === krak [n=krak@ip70-191-112-189.cl.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] linuxn00b: Okay, I went to Applications -> Add Applications, and then expanded Internet -> More. There was bittornado client listed. Click on it, and then hit okay at the bottom. That should also create a shortcuts on GNOME. [05:40] <_smd_> Has anyone experienced beep media player controlling all sound on their computer? [05:40] cafuego still borkedd [05:40] _jason: I installed it how it said and then I made the ln -s link to the libjavaplugin_oji.so like it said === DoonzHotel [i=doonz@edtntnt1-port-118.dial.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] <_jason> god, it? [05:41] bimberi any other ideas? [05:41] I thought most sound programs took over the sound system until it's released. [05:41] _jason: JRE1-5.0.1 [05:41] Mr_President: sorry no :| [05:41] _jason: JRE1-5.0 [05:41] <_jason> _smd_, no but I've expereienced BMP deciding to neglect it's volume setting and try to make me deaf === munzir [n=munzir@85.129.187.38] has joined #ubuntu === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] <_jason> god, where are you getting the jre from, sun? [05:42] Hi Sirs, I just installed ubuntu and had a kubuntu around me. Some one told me I can install merge it with ubuntu how? [05:42] linuxn00b: Are ya with me? [05:42] _jason: Yeah [05:42] <_smd_> _jason: lol, well i have exprience ear straining. not deafness [05:43] <_jason> god, what does java -version return? [05:43] munzir: installing the kubuntu-desktop will allow you to choose between them at login [05:43] _jason: 1.4.2 === Versed [i=abc@69.253.173.154] has joined #ubuntu [05:43] munzir, you can have kubuntu and xubuntu as well as ubuntu running on the same system if you'd like [05:43] _jason: I think I ran the bin in the wrong place...one minute [05:43] *kubuntu-desktop package [05:44] 800GT radeon - does it work fine with Breezy? [05:44] <_jason> god, try: sudo update-alternatives --config java [05:44] munzir, like bimberi said, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and/or xubuntu-desktop and you're done. Just select it by clicking on "Profile" at login. === fluvvell [n=barryc@222-152-167-7.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] Session? === Darth_Greig [n=Darth_Gr@rrcs-67-53-76-85.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] uh, yeah, session [05:45] :) [05:45] :) === guru54_ [n=guru@dialup-4.244.36.149.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu === jackmacokc [n=jackmaco@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === Dido- [n=9@193.68.201.169] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] thundr, bimberi: I have a kubuntu CD I don't want to install from the net [05:45] how do i kill a process i see in ps ax? [05:45] kill -9 [05:45] the the pid [05:45] bimberi, can he add it as an apt source? [05:45] Don't know what happened to linuxn00b. Thought we were on the verge of helping him get something accomplished. Oh well. === jackmacokc [n=jackmaco@ip68-12-180-150.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:45] <_jason> thezanke, try just kill before resorting to -9 [05:45] thundr: yep [05:46] <_smd_> so no ideas why this happens? [05:46] thezanke 'sudo killall ' will get any subproccesses it may have started too [05:46] there you go then, munzir. Just add it as a repository in apt or synaptic or whatever you use. [05:46] munzir: Edit -> Add CD-ROM in Synaptic [05:46] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: [05:46] <_linuxn00b> my wife needed me. ;) [05:46] <_linuxn00b> sorry! [05:46] linuxn00b: Just don't give me any details, okay? [05:47] :) [05:47] _jason: so...I ran the .bin in my /usr/java and nothing changed. [05:47] <_jason> god, try: sudo update-alternatives --config java [05:47] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: haha... i won't... but it was nothing. ;) [05:47] _jason: I did. === cafuego yells loudly at the ghost of ubotu [05:47] lol [05:47] linuxn00b: Did you catch my tip about Applications -> Add Program -> Internet -> More Programs -> Bittornado client? [05:47] <_jason> god, where is the libjavaplugin_oji.so link pointing to exactly === ce_smart [n=ce_smart@ws1.go.melsa.net.id] has joined #ubuntu [05:47] kill [05:47] it connect to the server, but then hangs :-( [05:47] hhhaaaai [05:47] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: no... let me try [05:48] kill the ghost of ubotu === cafuego will just have to run the sucker differently === JairunCaloth [n=trumpetp@71-14-42-161.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] intelikey: So, are going to see the Gost of Ubotu Past, Present, and Future? I would call it the Ubuntu Story. === ushooz [n=ushooz@adsl-66-140-58-22.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: where is add program? [05:48] _jason: into where I extracted it first. [05:49] Okay...Add Applications === Wraith [i=user@tc-171.eugene.epud.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] <_smd_> Goldfish: horrible joke :p [05:49] Welcome. [05:49] :) === x_madbot [n=marcelo@200191022176-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] >:) [05:49] :> [05:49] s/i// [05:49] That is why I only tell jokes as a hobby. I don't think I could make any money at that. [05:49] wraith lol [05:49] <_linuxn00b> ...can't seem to find it... [05:49] thundr, bimberi: thanks a lot. and then choose kde, right? [05:49] <_smd_> lol gold fish [05:49] <_jason> god, /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so ? [05:49] anyone have any idea why a(n) SMC Elite Connect 802.11b pcmcia card wouldn't work in ubuntu ? i used it in whax/auditor etc [05:49] Hmm? [05:49] tdhy [05:49] _jason: nope. [05:50] munzir: you got it :) [05:50] munzir, yes [05:50] linuxn00b: Top left corner of GNOME, click on Applications, then at the bottom is Add Applications. [05:50] munzir, glad we could help [05:50] _jason: I don't even have such a directory. [05:50] is it possible to set up a proxy on this ubuntu machine that i can use at other places (like the ones that you find a www.proxz.com) [05:50] _jason: I have the libjavaplugin_oji.so copied in to the plugins folder, though. [05:50] <_jason> god, that's the install directory for the javadebs [05:50] thezanke, I'd get tor if I were you. http://tor.eff.org I think it is. === soldieruk400 [n=peter@host86-141-151-39.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] Goldfish that assumes default menu placement and default launcher.... [05:50] _jason: how do I install it through apt-get? [05:51] <_jason> god, you can't copy it directly, firefox will crash or so I have read. needs to be a symlink [05:51] any one got kubuntu? [05:51] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: got applications, these are my options: 'accessories, games, graphics, internet, multimedia, office, systemtools, help, about ubuntu..., run application...' [05:51] intelikey: For crying out loud, I'm using a default install. I didn't expect linuxn00b to have changed all that! === steve_laptop [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] <_jason> god, one sec let me see if I can find it since ubotu is not with us [05:51] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: am i missing it? [05:51] _jason: Alright === cafuego is now known as ubotflu [05:51] linuxn00b: Expand Internet, and you will see More Programs. Expand that, and you will see bittornado client listed. [05:51] <_jason> god, http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ === ubotflu is now known as cafuego [05:52] Kubuntu is just with KDE and Ubuntu is Gnome ? [05:52] Goldfish some people the first thing they play with is the pannels and desktop settings..... you never know. [05:52] lol - missed that [05:52] linuxn00b: Wait a sec, are you saying you don't see Add Applications? [05:52] soldieruk400, I'm not into KDE. :/ [05:52] I prefer fvwm2 =D [05:52] I never got it running though, I'm on gnome.. [05:52] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: no... [05:52] linuxn00b: check System -> Administration -> Add Applications. [05:52] so there is no diferance then realy [05:52] cafuego: ubotflu ? [05:53] any have wine for amd64?! [05:53] anyone know how to run xproxy in the background? [05:53] errr gnome comes with its own bittorrent client under Apps > Internet > Bittorrent [05:53] <_smd_> kakei: white z.... but drank it [05:53] <_jason> god, what version of firefox are you running? default in gnome? [05:53] im on gnome myself i think [05:53] _smd_ white z? [05:53] Are there any alternatives to wine? [05:54] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: damn... nothing... i wonder if i'm using an old version of ubuntu [05:54] Umm... beer >:) [05:54] <_smd_> zinfandel..... [05:54] haha [05:54] linuxn00b: What release? I have 5.10 breezy badget. [05:54] Dido-: vmware (free to use, but not free software), qemu, bochs [05:54] :P === steven__ [n=steven@c-24-118-44-83.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] same as me [05:54] <_smd_> gahh kids... [05:54] Is dapper stable yet? [05:54] _linuxn00b you can check version 'uname -a ' [05:54] thundr, bimberi: but there is no package called kubuntu-desktop!! [05:54] heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere botty botty! [05:54] i only downloaded it 3 days ago lol [05:54] nalioth, what means that it's free to use but not free software? [05:55] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: is there an easy way to check version? i think it's 2.4 but i'm not sure...? [05:55] Nobody runs dapper.. :/ [05:55] heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere botty botty botty! [05:55] Hericus: when its released, it will (hopefully) be stable :) [05:55] munzir, you have to enable universe (iirc) === ubotflu [n=blootbot@ppp83-238.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] uname -a will tell you the kernel you are running, not the distro though. [05:55] !test [05:55] Failed. [05:55] Dido-: free to use costs you no money, 'free software' comes with source code that you can use to your hearts content [05:55] <_linuxn00b> 2.6.8.1-2-286 [05:55] Toma-, thats next year! I can't wait until then.. thats april or something isn't it. [05:55] <_jason> _linuxn00b, try lsb_release -r [05:55] There's a good temporary bot. [05:55] I have 2.6.12-9-386. System tried to bump me up to 2.6.12-10-386, but that broke my wireless so I reverted. [05:55] Hericus: dapper is for bug testers, developers and conributors... are you one of those? [05:55] nalioth, is it downloadable? [05:55] that's 5.04 [05:56] I hardly have the time. === carthik [n=carthik@user-0cej70p.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] no that maybe 4.10 === element__ [n=element@219.144.248.117] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] Dido-: there is a free version available, but you have to do it yourself [05:56] It is downloadable to anyone who cares for it however. === cdubya [n=chris@ppp-69-148-166-160.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] well why bother running a system thats going to break probably ever 2 weks [05:56] anyone know how to run xproxy in the background? [05:56] It'll be like gentoo =D. [05:56] <_jason> Toma-, ask a windows user [05:56] just a week or 2 ago it didnt even boot [05:57] Toma- that sucks. [05:57] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: so is my version too old then? ;) [05:57] I know of random ubuntu users that run it. === aatim [n=aatim@202.69.188.123] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] yeh. stick with breezy at least till it becomes an rc :D [05:57] _linuxn00b yep you are running a year old release. to versions out of date now. if you have fast inet dl the latest. [05:57] Meh [05:57] join #debian [05:57] I can't imagine such a profound change from 5.04 to 5.10 in the GNOME versions. [05:57] Thats many moons away. [05:57] err two even [05:57] nalioth, sound too complicated ;) so i guess qemu is ok/ === ogami1972 [n=michael@24-155-228-125.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] Does he have to adjust his /etc/apt/sources.list and do a dist-upgrade to catch up? [05:58] wait...how do i check waht version i have? [05:58] Hericus: well install it and report ever bug you come across [05:58] *every [05:58] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: any way to do that w/o burning a disk? i don't have my burner in my box right now [05:58] Toma- I report all my bugs.. [05:58] I'm not a n00b === Hericus looks aghast. [05:58] also, make sure you dual boot it, coz it probably wont work [05:58] I'll wait till April. [05:58] good werk :D [05:58] You got dapper? === Wraith [i=user@tc-171.eugene.epud.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:58] I started at 5.10, so I don't know what differences happened in the past year. Is there a more graphics oriented way for him to upgrade? I am used to command line stuff, so I have no problem editing sources.list. === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.198.97] has joined #ubuntu === vskye [n=vskye@24-72-196-108.cm-dynip.usadig.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] !dapper [05:59] The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake [05:59] thundr: but I want to install from the CD not the net. Still I believe it's enabled [05:59] Goldfish: you open up synaptic and click Settings or whatever and edit the repos via the gui === element__ [n=element@219.144.248.117] has left #ubuntu [""] [05:59] Hericus: nope. i dont have the time to run it [05:59] Command line is nicee. :D [05:59] well.... yeah but i kinda hate to try to get a newbe to run an installer from console.... but yes you can killall gdm, mount the iso, and run the installer. [05:59] <_linuxn00b> intelikey: is there some way to updated it within the shell? === nalioth is now known as nalioth_zZz [05:59] _linuxn00b ^ [06:00] and i dont know C so i cant write any patches :( [06:00] goldfish: i am running 2.6.10-5-386, how out of date am i?? [06:00] munzir, that's right. It should be on the cd. I've never actually tried it-I've done everything from the net. Anyone else have any suggestions? [06:00] I am still getting used to this nice GUI front end. My brain keeps shifting into command line mode. [06:00] thezanke: very === mode/#ubuntu [-o crimsun] by crimsun [06:00] Goldfish: You use what you like lol === fnbluoo [n=fnbluoo@210.22.130.52] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] thezanke: I have no idea. Like I said, I started ubuntu on breezy badget with 5.10. [06:00] Goldfish: I hate Synaptic :D === choudesh [n=choudesh@151.161.173.30] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] Can I pause a apt-get? [06:00] Dido-: You can background it with CTRL+Z [06:00] Kyral: Nothing quite beats sudo apt-get install whatever-the-heck-want [06:01] hello all. [06:01] _linuxn00b if someone here that knows how to will walk you through it, it's not that hard but i'm only going to be here for about 3 more minutes. [06:01] quick questions, how to I change my color in bash? [06:01] Kyral: compared to memories of slackware 5 years ago..... === |Element| [n=element@219.144.248.117] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] <_jason> choudesh, edit -> profile [06:01] choudesh: edit bashrc [06:01] Goldfish: Espcicially combined with a big .bash_aliases file [06:01] <_linuxn00b> anyone want to/have the time to walk me throug upgrading ubuntu? ;) [06:01] Just Test [06:01] choudesh, you don't. the color is a function of the terminal program, not the shell program [06:01] Kyral, so i'm gonna pause it and i can resume it later? [06:01] Kyral: I have a saying. "Have .cshrc, will travel." [06:01] choudesh, if you are using gnome terminal, it is on the settings menu [06:01] Dido-: as long as you don't kill the term [06:02] seth_k, No it isn't. [06:02] Dido-: You'd recover it by using fg [06:02] choudesh, sorry [06:02] choudesh, that's konsole. for gnome terminal you want the profiles, I believe on the edit menu [06:02] goldfish, happen to know how to run something like xproxy as a daemon or in the background so when i close the terminal it wont exit? [06:02] Kyral, ctrl+z and when i want to resume it i type fg? [06:02] choudesh, right, I checked. edit/profiles [06:02] I use Ubuntu first time [06:02] Dido-: yah === DShepherd [n=DShepher@port0228-aby-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] fnbluoo, what do you use the second time? [06:03] hey [06:03] Kyral, 10x [06:03] thezanke: nohup yourcommand [args] & [06:03] would it be hard to install the linux-wlan-ng software into ubuntu ? so i can get my SMC wifi card working [06:03] FreeBsd === ViViD [n=ViViD@c-67-160-125-239.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] gnight to one and all [06:04] thezanke: Check man nohup for more details. [06:04] thundr: thanks for your try. now it worked by readding it manually to synaptic. the auto adding seems to be buggy [06:04] <_linuxn00b> cafuego: can you help me with upgrading ubuntu? [06:04] munzir, that's good. Did you find your package? [06:04] thezanke: I am a little unclear about which commands get killed when you close your terminal session. [06:04] <_linuxn00b> is it wise to just run apt-get dist-upgrade?? [06:05] you know when this new version comes in do we have to burn another disk or will it just update its self [06:05] anybody start playing with dapper yet? [06:05] <_linuxn00b> or apt-get -d dist-upgrade [06:05] soldieruk400: you can can burn the iso if you want === jah_raztah [n=jahrazta@CPE0006255ab096-CM0011e6bec6bf.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] cool [06:06] soldieruk400: or do a dist-upgrade [06:06] The idea of apt-get dist-upgrade is that you first upgrade which repository you are using, and then run it. That saves you from using any CD process, which might accidentally try to re-install your system. [06:06] _linuxn00b, I personally don't think so, but it really depends somewhat on the situation. [06:06] is there a way to install a .deb using synaptic so that all the un matched dependencies can me automatically selected? [06:06] but for now im happy with unbuntu just working the thing out at the moment [06:06] _linuxn00b, if you can tolerate a small but non-zero chance of ending up with a problem, then dist upgrade is fine. [06:06] <_linuxn00b> sethk: i'm running a year old copy of ubuntu... thought i might need to upgrade, can you suggest a way to do that w/o a disk? [06:06] jah_raztah: i dont know. but dpkg -i package.deb works fine [06:07] My battery power is waning, which means it is time to go to bed. [06:07] yes i kno about that [06:07] linuxn00b: Good luck. [06:07] but it doesn't select dependencies [06:07] _linuxn00b, you can do the upgrade on-line. The question is, do you do it piece by piece, or rely on the package manager to get everything right in one operation. [06:07] <_linuxn00b> Goldfish: thank you! good night! [06:07] ask for a copy off someone [06:07] _linuxn00b, my problem with that is, I've had a number of cases recently where some downloads didn't complete due to timeouts. [06:07] missing dependencies === czr [n=czr@cs183171.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu === siriusnova [n=siriusno@64-251-145-86-cablemodem-roll.fidnet.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] <_linuxn00b> sethk: yeah... well, its a fresh install (the disk was old) so i don't have anything to lose [06:07] _linuxn00b, then you get a partial install of the update, which could leave you temporarily in a bad state. [06:07] hey anyone got Real Player 10 to work within firefox? [06:07] _linuxn00b, in that case, sure, go for it. [06:08] like as an embedded player? [06:08] _linuxn00b, worst thing that happens, you have to install again. [06:08] <_linuxn00b> sethk: would you recommend doing the apt-get -d dist-upgrade? [06:08] not me [06:08] I wonder if KDE or GNOME would be easier for a female linux-newb to use [06:08] _linuxn00b, yes, in your situation. [06:08] i tried but not working [06:08] soldieruk400 - talking to me? [06:08] <_linuxn00b> sethk: once i have it downloaded... what? [06:08] does anyone know how to set the calendar in ubuntu to start on sunday or whatever day one chooses? [06:08] iHeartKem: Much of a muchness. They can both be configured to look and feel like what $USER is used to. [06:08] _linuxn00b, it doesn't just download, it installs [06:08] anyone ? [06:09] sorry sirius [06:09] _linuxn00b, some programs will prompt you for information, most will just upgrade silently [06:09] hmm... which would run better on a system with 120mb ram ? [06:09] gnome or kde [06:09] i was [06:09] <_linuxn00b> sethk: all i get is 0 everything... [06:09] iHeartKem, they are about the same w.r.t. memory usage. Whichever one you prefer [06:09] <_linuxn00b> sethk: i'm not running root... does that matter? [06:09] how do i automatically select the missing depencies needed to install a .deb [06:09] _linuxn00b, yes, it does. [06:09] no one has real player 10 installed? [06:09] _linuxn00b, you have to sudo, or be root [06:10] <_linuxn00b> this is what i typed: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade === George_boy [i=j33r@202.1.194.246] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] sirius i have but it dont work [06:10] <_linuxn00b> sethk: same thing... 0 everything [06:10] lmao, the Edubuntu wallpaper makes me laugh [06:10] _linuxn00b, try the GUI tool, instead of the CLI, if you can. [06:10] hi, i am getting an irq conflict when i try to connect my lucent modem with ltmodem modules installed [06:10] _linuxn00b, the easy thing is to download the ISO and either mount it, or burn and use it. [06:10] any suggestions to get rid of the problem? [06:11] _linuxn00b, I don't know why you are getting that result, though. [06:11] _linuxn00b, do you have X running? If so, do you have an update icon on your toolbar? [06:11] <_linuxn00b> sethk: ok... i'll try to burn a disk at work [06:11] siriusnova, I had tried RP10 with FF on another distro but I never got it to work [06:11] <_linuxn00b> sethk: x?? [06:11] _linuxn00b, if you can, it's the sensible thing to do. [06:11] cdubya - ok so its not just me [06:11] hello? :) can anyone please help me with the prob? [06:11] _linuxn00b, x windows. gnome, kde, one of the desktops [06:11] iHeartKem, you may also want to try xubuntu - it's based on xfce4, which will run faster on a slower system. [06:12] how to extract qemu-0.7.2-i386.tar.gz in / [06:12] George_boy, bios setting to assign a irq? [06:12] George_boy, what modem is it, exactly? [06:12] siriusnova, I'm using RP9 plugins and all the mplayer plugins....works fine [06:12] <_linuxn00b> sethk: i'm running gnome === Knorrie__ [n=knorrie@od11.fttd-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] cdubya - even works with yahoo movies? [06:12] thanks thundr, i love xfce ;) [06:12] thundr: yes and now everything is ok. thanks a lot [06:12] iHeartKem, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and you've got it :) [06:12] seth_k- its an agere system modem- formerly lucent technologies === DRAGON_Ultra [n=DRAGON_U@adsl-70-232-60-5.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] _linuxn00b, with the current distro, there is a red update icon next to the network icon on the right side of the toolbar. Not sure if that was true with the earlier version. [06:12] siriusnova, I don't do a lot of the movies....so I can't say whether it does or not....got one for me to try? :) [06:12] George_boy, is it very old? [06:12] glad I could help, munzir === Esers [i=sdf@87.110.79.55] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] when i load up ubuntu can i choose gnome/xfce [06:13] <_linuxn00b> sethk: nope... got nothing... but i'd better head to bed === kumakun [n=justin@66-168-77-144.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:13] <_linuxn00b> sethk: thanks for trying to help though! take care! [06:13] iHeartKem, yes, or kde if you've got that installed as well [06:13] <_linuxn00b> take care everyone! thanks all for the help! [06:13] _linuxn00b, burn the cd, it's the easy thing to do. [06:13] sethk- needless to say, a soft modem- not too old....it works fine on windows- and is supposedly the most favourble choice for a soft modem on linux in terms of compatibility [06:13] iHeartKem, just click on "session" [06:13] <_linuxn00b> sethk: that's my task for tomorrow! ;) thanks! [06:13] oh wow the xubuntu Usplash looks neat, is that easily change-able? [06:13] George_boy, it's very unusual to get an IRQ problem with a PCI device. [06:14] iHeartKem, not terribly difficult === blanky [n=blanky@pool-71-104-140-211.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] iHeartKem, yes, I figured it out in a couple minutes. [06:14] i just dont know how to get rid of the irq conflict problem...and then there's this util called setserial...lord only knows what i am suposed to do with that. [06:14] siriusnova, i have real player 10 running, are you trying to have it integrate into mozilla firefox so that you can view you .rm/.ra streams within firefox? [06:15] is there a util or a dir to put the logo into [06:15] George_boy, you shouldn't need to use that with a PCI device. [06:15] iHeartKem, it's under Settings > Splash Screen [06:15] George_boy, I would rebuild the kernel, with the modem support compiled in instead of a module. [06:15] sweet ;) [06:15] iHeartKem, you may want to join #xubuntu as well. It's not as busy as this, but they might be able to help you if you can't get help here. [06:15] George_boy, try shutting off something in the bios you don't need, to free up a irq. (com1,2) [06:16] sethk- thanks. will try that now. :) === leandro [n=leandro@200.68.215.120] has joined #ubuntu === leandro [n=leandro@200.68.215.120] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [06:16] im downloading kubuntu what do you think of it i heartkem? [06:16] Sirs! Now I tried to install 3dchess and it said a dependency is not installable. Shouldn't all dependecies be on the CD === Shachaf [n=Shachaf@c66-235-25-227.sea2.cablespeed.com] has joined #ubuntu === simonvallore [n=simonval@adsl-68-91-4-219.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:17] munzir, no [06:17] munzir, silly question, since you just told us the answer yourself. :) [06:17] sethk: !! [06:17] Wow... Edubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, how many are there lol [06:18] sethk: what's the logic behind not having a dependency on the CD? [06:18] munzir, not using more than one CD [06:18] god knows lol [06:18] iHeartKem, that's all I know about, but I'm sure that'll change in the future :) [06:18] munzir, the other distros have anywhere from 2 to 4 CDs [06:18] munzir, suse has even more. === AtlantisX [n=Test@dslb-084-061-116-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:18] munzir, you can only compress data so much to fit one cd. [06:19] munzir, if you are connected to the 'net and have your repositories configured, it will install from the CD and fetch the missing dependencies for you automatically [06:19] sethk, debian has more [06:19] sethk: yes but it's much better IMHO if they include packages with full depndencies until the CD is full and then leave more packages on the net === Ep|phaby [n=rambo@70.74.31.123] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] ;) [06:19] vskye, ok, I hadn't checked debian's count recently. === pinclicker [i=savirc@12.183.168.48] has joined #Ubuntu [06:19] munzir, I don't necessarily disagree, but you can see the logic behind putting them on the CD [06:19] munzir, that way they show up in the list of installable programs === jdmpike [n=jordan@CPE-72-128-40-156.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] munzir: it probably slipped through the cracks, file a bug report === pinclicker [i=savirc@12.183.168.48] has left #ubuntu ["bye!"] [06:20] I have a question for everyone [06:20] i just reformated my laptop with ubuntu but now when i try to control the volume an error box opens saying Registry is not present or it is corrupted. Please update it by running gst-register. how do i run gst-register? [06:20] anyone - 800GT AGP video card - how they work? [06:20] first thing I do is remove the cd line from the apt sources... [06:20] here is the problem, I have two users on my laptop. Me and my finace. [06:20] we both take lots of digital photos and we want them to go to a shared location [06:20] vskye: it's ATI, so probably badly. [06:20] sethk: ok now I feel the universe repo is enable already, at least it show up in synaptic what do I need to do to make it work? === The_Baker [n=The@pool-71-112-129-39.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] ahh, looking to upgrade ... have a G450 Matrox now. [06:21] we are putting them in the same place, but everytime we copy them over, we have to change the permissinos [06:21] munzir, I assume you have that computer conected to the net? [06:21] how can I not have to do this anymore? [06:21] jdmpike: make a few directory /home/shared, make it owned by the GROUP users... and add both accounts to that group. [06:21] ATI video card works great here [06:21] I have done that === jrattner1 [n=jrattner@uhartford216124.hartford.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] jdmpike: set the permissions on that directory to 2775 === oxez [n=oxez@unaffiliated/oxez] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] thundr: sure it's === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] anyone got suggestions for me? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@pool-71-240-33-39.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] jdmpike: (setgid) [06:22] DRAGON_Ultra, cool. Looks like the new ATI drivers are working good. [06:22] does anyone know why when i try to get into my ftp it says 530 authentication failed sorry and the accounts are set up already through pure ftp admin [06:22] Hi :) [06:22] jdmpike: That will make sure the files you place there will inherit the correct perms. === ubuntu_ is now known as Aviatrixie === ushooz [n=ushooz@adsl-66-140-58-22.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:22] ATI has always work with my linux os [06:22] thundr: if setting -> repo shows the universe repo is this means it's added and tha's all? still it complains of missing depends === cdubya [n=chris@ppp-69-148-166-160.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:22] how exactly do you pronounce Ubuntu [06:22] DRAGON_Ultra: You're obviously not trying to use fglrx on a non-i386 machine. [06:22] cafuego: what is setgid? [06:23] ohhboontoo [06:23] maybe you-buntu ? or ooh-buntu [06:23] lol [06:23] iHeartKem: Depends on the language you're using. === _freelove [n=yasser@59.93.194.89] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] I say ooh-buntu [06:23] <_jason> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation [06:23] <_jason> lol we jsut did this [06:23] say brrooowwwn sugar [06:23] anyone know how to run gst-register [06:23] jdmpike: See the comments in 'man chmod'. [06:23] it sounded like an african word! [06:23] and it damn sure is [06:23] DRAGON_Ultra, good to know. Dual monitor support is a must [06:24] munzir, the default settings should show you a dialog for you to confirm that because of dependencies more stuff will be installed (more than you requested) [06:24] My name is larry wall and I pronounce Ubuntu as 'G' 'e' 'n' 't' 'o' 'o' === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] cafuego: I am familiar with chmod, chusr, and chgrp. I just don't know what setgid is === Elemen1 [n=element@219.144.248.117] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] Hi from a total oooohbuntu user. I'm doing the live cd for the first time tonight. [06:24] cafuego: are you on crack or you just skipped all your english class [06:24] jdmpike: yes, hence my comment [06:24] lmao [06:24] How do you like it, Aviatrixie? [06:25] DShepherd: Dude [06:25] so far so good, thundr [06:25] DShepherd: it's my third language, give me a break ;-) [06:25] funny that the Xubuntu release's login screen still says Ubuntu [06:25] it found my all in one printer and scanner, my pda, and sound works fine === DShepherd cafuego a break === cafuego would like to buy a VERB [06:26] I had high hopes for mepis, but it locked up on boot [06:26] mepis.. [06:26] <_freelove> mepis is outdated;) [06:26] I always assumed mepis to be like SuSE. [06:26] hello everybody. [06:26] mepis is ok but not for me [06:26] !mp3 [06:26] mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [06:26] !idiot [06:26] I don't know, Hericus [06:27] lol [06:27] sethk: when I choose "mark for installation" it tell me you have unresolvable deps and the deps are not installable and I only have a close button!! [06:27] Well... I wanted easy cross-over... linspire didn't attract me [06:27] Aviatrixie, this is the only one I've been able to stick with. [06:27] Aviatrixie, ubuntu. :) [06:27] Or gentoo. [06:27] cafeugo: Set Group ID [06:27] look at pclinux [06:27] Or slackware. [06:27] cafeugo: thanks [06:27] munzir, then you need more repositories. make sure that for each repository, you have one instance for binary and another for source [06:27] besides, I used to live in WV... I'm only 77 miles from Warren now. === somnivm_ [i=somnivm@ALyon-151-1-74-118.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Elemen1 [n=element@219.144.248.117] has left #ubuntu [] [06:28] sethk: ah! I don't know about this source, any doc to explain how to do this? any help: [06:28] ? [06:28] <_freelove> whats wrong with gnome-look.org? [06:28] !repos [06:28] repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource === Watje [n=watje@82-171-201-50.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] I'm really impressed with Ubuntu so far. The only other distro that has worked this well so far on my pc is dsl [06:29] why when i am trying to use the proxy i made with xproxy in internet explorer it is asking me to download things like www.google.com [06:30] munzir, bring up the preferences dialog, repositories. For each repository you see, click settings, and change it from binary to source. Then click the add button and add the binary repository back to the list [06:30] Aviatrixie, the community's definitely the friendliest of all the distros I've tried. [06:30] <_freelove> i have avidemux2 .deb............anyone wants it?? [06:30] munzir, sorry, click edit, not settings [06:31] Aviatrixie: plus, they give you completely free cds (though it takes a while to ship) === |Element| [n=element@219.144.248.117] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] I've made a few friends on dsl's irc... but the distro won't be more than a toy for me. Nice for surfing, but not much more. It does do streaming well though. === robotgeek is now known as robotgeek_away === robotgeek_away is now known as robotgeek_zzz === azzz [n=noemail@203.19.141.34] has joined #ubuntu [06:33] hey guys, is there a way of updating or searching online for packages to install with yast? [06:33] does anyone know why when i try to get into my ftp it says 530 authentication failed sorry and the accounts are set up already through pure ftp admin [06:34] I d/led the live 5.10 today, thundr... did the full install a few days ago. === mhoss [i=mhoss@h141.223.102.166.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:34] only other distro ive used is pclinuxos [06:34] which is also quite nice [06:34] although its KDE [06:34] with very crappy gnome support [06:34] It gets better with every release, Aviatrixie. [06:34] <_freelove> kde is better than gnome;) [06:34] bull [06:34] simonvallore, authentication failed. If you check the logs or strace the server you can discover why. [06:35] I've become a distro whore recently. I'm sooooooo fed up with MS [06:35] <_freelove> it does not...........0.92 is worse & slower than preview 9.1 [06:35] I like fluxbox/enlightenment/windowmaker and xfce [06:35] i think i like gnome more.....i hated KDE so bad i ended up using fluxbox on pclinuxos [06:35] lol [06:35] _freelove, better is a meaningless term. perhaps better suited for your uses. I use KDE also [06:35] you can always try http://www.xpde.com/ Window manager [06:36] _freelove, but it is neither better nor worse === leandro [n=leandro@200.68.215.120] has joined #ubuntu === aru [n=aru@67-41-87-99.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu === leandro [n=leandro@200.68.215.120] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [06:36] azzz: yast? anyway http://packages.ubuntu.com [06:36] I like BeatrIX... it's a nice really stable mini Ubuntu derivative [06:36] yes, it's a matter of preference, _freelove [06:36] hey anyone here use the mplayer + greasemonkey extension in firefox? [06:36] Aviatrixie, I'll have to try that out. === LoneWolf071 [n=root@c-24-1-134-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] <_freelove> hmmm...;).i was just teasing;) [06:37] do that, thundr... it's only 180mb... works well [06:37] BRB. hopefully [06:37] is ther eany way i can block or stop peoplefrom Brute-force SSHing me? === rob_p [n=rob@freenode/supporter/active/RobertPectol] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] unplug from the inet? ha! [06:38] put ssh on another port ? === simontam [n=simontam@CPE-144-137-67-114.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] hello? [06:38] LoneWolf071: use ssh key authentication only [06:38] welcome simontam [06:38] hi simontam [06:38] alp, ? [06:38] <_jason> LoneWolf071, allow only certain ip's to connect to your computer or use ssh keys [06:38] LoneWolf071, I disable passwords entirely and use only public/private key authorization [06:38] I would like to ask someone [06:38] plz dont ask to ask simontam [06:38] just ask [06:38] that was productive. [06:39] lonewolf2, then, anybody tries a password login, tarpit 'em [06:39] I am using Ubuntu at the moment, and i want to ask how i can un install ubuntu [06:39] bimberi: thx [06:39] sethk, how do i find the pureftpd logs [06:39] azzz: np :) [06:39] simontam, you've found some problems with it? [06:39] simontam, not sure, as I don't use it, but somewhere in the /var/log or a /var/log subdirectory [06:39] do ni just insert the win xp cd [06:40] do i have to configure my settings so that it botos from cd? === mcjerry [n=mcjerry@ip68-99-175-230.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] so... I'm about to take the big plunge. I have a 40 mb partition free on my hd. How much should I give to Ubuntu? And any gotchas? [06:40] yes simontam [06:40] SIMONTAM [06:40] just put the evil cd in [06:40] simontam, fdisk and delete the partitions, have xp boot to rescue mode and use 'fixmbr' to remove the boot loader. [06:40] do you know how? [06:40] if thats what you really want [06:40] open consol type sudo su [06:40] then do command rm -rf [06:40] simontam it depends on your system [06:40] simontam, then boot to XP and refdisk/format the drives. [06:40] then do command rm -rf / [06:40] one has to wonder on an ubuntu system what they would brute force anyway, since root is diabled they would have to guess a username too. [06:40] Is there any way to make evolution to show a POP UP or something if new mail arrives? [06:40] Aviatrixie, depends on how much junk you want to install. If you install absolutely everything you'll use about 10 gig. 1 gig is more than enough for the install files of a normal system. [06:40] ? [06:40] Aviatrixie, you may want to give Ubuntu more than 40 megs :) [06:41] ok thanks you guys [06:41] Thanks very much:D [06:41] Ill see you later === weiers [i=[U2FsdGV@platform.adept.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] errr... did I say megs? I mean gigs! LOL === razboinik [n=razboini@fl-southhub-u1-c5-0a-104.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] <--- scolling back [06:41] :) [06:42] <_jason> can someone explain to me the difference between auth.log and auth.log.0 please? [06:42] jrattner1, there's a panel applet that you could use. [06:42] later all === DRAGON_Ultra [n=DRAGON_U@adsl-70-232-60-5.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu ["Linux] [06:42] yup... I said megs... sawwy :::blush::: [06:42] mmmmmmmchhhhhyeah [06:42] Aviatrixie, depends. Just use the whole partition. [06:43] bimberi: can yast be configured to look at that? [06:43] Aviatrixie, no problem. I've got 8 gigs for ubuntu and it's comfortable for me. [06:43] how do I disable the totem plugin in firefox and allow the mplayer plugin instead? [06:43] anyone? [06:43] I have a very strange problem with firefox (ver 1.0.7) on ubuntu breezy. I'm trying to access a password protected website, but it does not display the website. Attempts to contact the website just times out (http://dink.co.za/cpanel). I don't have the problem on my windows box, also running firefox, but even my Mozilla Browser does not allow me access to the site. === sexcopter8000m [n=james@dslb-082-083-208-201.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] <_jason> ubotflu, tell siriusnova about replacetotem [06:43] thx [06:44] jrattner1, I could be wrong, but I don't think it's based on evolution. It will tell you when you ahve new mail, though. [06:44] brb [06:44] weiers: do you have adblock installed? [06:44] weiers: maybe that's causing the problem [06:44] vr^ how will I know? [06:44] i just installed ubuntu in a toshiba laptop, but the touchpad mouse is annoying, if i move the mouse it clicks, etc, any fix for this? i tried slowing down the sensitivity for the mouse but nothing [06:44] what can i do to extract rar files ? [06:44] jrattner1, there is, in the config somewhere you can run a program to announce new mail. There are also panel applets that will do it. [06:45] simonvallore: sudo apt-get install unrar (or rar), and then: unrar x 'file.rar' [06:45] <_jason> simonvallore, install unrar-nonfree, it is in multiverse [06:45] weiers: Firefox > Tools > EXtensions but i doubt you have it, since you don't recall installing it [06:45] simonvallore: I guess that's what's __jason said, unrar-nonfree [06:45] vr^ I see I only have the GB language pack installed [06:45] weiers: that comes standard with ff === B166ERX [n=oli@c66.110.148-62.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] azzz: ubuntu uses apt tools (such as apt-get and synaptic) rather than yast. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto [06:46] weiers: i'm not sure what the problem could be ;\ === inv_arp [n=junya@c-66-176-211-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === B166ERX [n=oli@c66.110.148-62.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] Aviatrixie, you may already know this, but you might want to put /home as a seperate partition and give it a couple gigs. Then, you can resize your partition as needed if you start running out of room. [06:46] Is there a way to install Firefox 1.5 via synaptic or apt-get? [06:46] seth_k, ok [06:46] <_jason> weiers, no [06:46] I tried to do an install of BeatrIX. Everything went fine until the very end... then it stopped. I think it may have something to do with the fact my ex husband built this thing for me, and I do know my hd is st up as slave on ide 1. the cdrom is master. it must be a windows thing, but try as i might i could not get the program to install. [06:46] azzz: and yes, they download and install automatically from repositories [06:47] jrattner1, sethk, not me :P [06:47] thundr: isn't that dangerous? resizing partitions afterwards? [06:47] hmm... with breezy 2.6.12-8 how do ya get kern source? not in apt-cache search list [06:47] vr^, yes, somewhat [06:47] vr^, back up first. [06:47] vr^, it depends how you do it. [06:47] mmhmm === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] did anyone read my post? [06:47] vr^, and of course it's alwasy good to backup. [06:47] what's the "right way" to do it, thundr [06:47] !multiverse [06:47] from memory, repositories is How to add repositories: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list === Trilom [n=Trilom@pool-70-109-21-225.atl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] !sources [06:47] i don't have anywhere to backup to [06:47] A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [06:47] what would you guys recommend to learn 1st if i want to start programming....i already know some (x)html css and minimal php/asp [06:47] ^_^ [06:48] razboinik, if it isn't already there, put the touchpad driver into the xorg.conf file === tryagain [n=ubuntu@astound-64-85-255-23.ca.astound.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] techrush, python is good. [06:48] techrush: python [06:48] ok [06:48] techrush: i guess it depends on where you wanna be === inv_arp [n=junya@c-66-176-211-109.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] bah got disc [06:48] i dont have anywhere i wanna be [06:48] .. with breezy 2.6.12-8 how do ya get kern source? not in apt-cache search list [06:49] just a hobby [06:49] however nerdy a hobby it may be :) [06:49] vr^, I'm not well-versed in fdisk and all those programs. I've just used the ubuntu install partitioner and gtparted. [06:49] you guys probably hear this a billion times. How do install software on linux. Exes do nothing [06:49] techrush: whatever floats your boat then, y'know? :) === dabaR_ thinks it is a hobby that you picked up in the lobby [06:49] techrush, python is good because you don't have to compile it, so you get to the point of running your first program more quickly. [06:49] tryagain, :) that's because exes are windows files. [06:49] cool [06:49] tryagain, apt-get install software [06:49] Hey everyone, still working on getting good with ubuntu, but i need more help, I am in need of help to get Rythem Box to play MP3's, and when i try it says "This File is not an Audio Stream" Help please? [06:49] that sounds good [06:49] techrush, everything you learn for python will be applicable to other languages, also. [06:49] <_freelove> anyone tried wolvix? its very interesting.......live cd+install.........lets u play dvds & restricted formats out of box! [06:49] tryagain: visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html [06:49] great im convinced [06:50] ok [06:50] thanks mang === weiers [i=[U2FsdGV@platform.adept.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:50] i have system shock [06:50] Trilom: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [06:50] wolvix just did a stable game distro === Astxist [n=komugiub@ppp2EB6.dyn.pacific.net.au] has joined #Ubuntu [06:50] there are two in there. configured mouse and synaptics touchpad [06:50] also. sinec im running from a cd...how od i get it to save everything when i shut down or restart? [06:50] I saw it on distrowatch today :D [06:50] sethk: there are two in there. configured mouse and synaptics touchpad === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === dabaR_ razboiniks razboinik === jah_raztah [n=jahrazta@CPE0006255ab096-CM0011e6bec6bf.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has joined #ubuntu [06:51] razboinik, synaptics touchpad should help. check the xorg log and make sure the server is using the touchpad driver. You might want to comment out the other, although you may not be able to (depends on how the config was written) [06:51] .. with breezy 2.6.12-8 how do ya get kern source? not in apt-cache search list [06:51] I juste finished reinstalling ubuntu breezy, but my Windows HD is now represented by a HDA1 icon, and ...is unnacesible [06:52] inv_arp: apt-cache search kernel-source [06:52] tryagain, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-installing-applications check that link as well [06:52] dabaR: i know 2.6.12-8 doesnt come up [06:52] ok thanks let me check [06:52] dabaR_ : Thanks :) [06:52] B166ERX you need to access it as root for some reason......so try this in a console "sudo nautilus" [06:52] How can I run vncserver for a user that's not root? [06:52] then browse to hda1 [06:53] <_smd_> Why would beep control my sound? even if have my sound up in every program i have? [06:53] B166ERX... I've heard a lot of that sort of thing happening with Ubuntu. I'm wondering if I should do my first install on a seperate hd [06:53] techrush its the first time i have to acess my other HD by root only... there must be a way to change it [06:53] anyone? [06:53] B166ERX: open a terminal, and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" then press enter, and post the contents of the file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, Ill tell you hwo to change it to make the drive readable. [06:53] Aviatrixie, doesn't prevent the thing you are worried about. Just don't install the boot loader and boot from CD until you are comfortable with writing the MBR [06:54] yes im going through the same issue B166ERX i have not found a work around other then accessing it with sudo [06:54] _smd_: what, you change sound level in beep, and it changes in other programs? I have same thing, it is hard to change. [06:54] z0rz: the usual approach is either suid or a config option [06:54] z0rz: what happens when you try? [06:54] this sounds funny. could you use linux to install windows? [06:54] techrush: you post your /etc/fstab to pastebin too then. [06:55] tryagain: sure. [06:55] permission denied [06:55] <_smd_> dabaR_: well that is an answer but an annoyance. [06:55] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5687 dabar_ [06:55] no can do atm dabaR_ im away from my ubuntu install [06:55] _smd_: is that what happens? === dr_willis [n=willis@12-222-81-183.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:55] bimberi: permissoind enied [06:56] z0rz: yeah, saw it, strange - it just works (tm) for me (i installed from the ubuntu repos) [06:56] Aviatrixie, I was just looking at distrowatch and the wolfix site, I was curious why they didn't include any wine support in the games edition. [06:56] this package manager. Is it bascially pulling things from the cd or online that i want? [06:56] so did I .. apt-get install vncserver === DShepherd [n=DShepher@port0228-aby-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has left #ubuntu [] [06:56] in breezy 2.6.12-8 how do ya get kern source? 2.6.12-8 does not show up in apt-cache search list [06:57] tryagain, that's right. Online's the best (since it's usually the most recent) but it can also take packages from the cd as well. [06:57] z0rz: hm === oxez [n=oxez@unaffiliated/oxez] has left #ubuntu ["Quitte"] [06:57] inv_arp: install linux-tree [06:57] dabar_ any idea ? [06:57] inv_arp: are you sure you have stock 2.6.12? Cause I dont have that option. [06:57] ahhh [06:57] <_smd_> ie: i am listening to a radio stream, phone rings i turn it down go away for bit, then come back to alot of msg i missed in my chat programs. Never heard them as I turned the sound down in bmp, or i am watching to a movie in say xine and i start to listen to a song, i turn the movie down so i can hear the song but then after the song i close bmp and the movie and turn the movie up I cannot hear anything [06:57] B166ERX: reload the page, and on the list on the left you will see my correction. Try putting that in your file instead of what you have, and save, close, and then "sudo mount -a" [06:57] i kinda get it [06:57] it comes super barebones [06:58] cuz i couldnt even get flash pages to display [06:58] hm ok [06:58] or mp3s to work [06:58] thundr... no clue... I'm not a gamer... but my kids are. I just thought it neat that someone made a game distro. In fact, I started to D/L for them, but the server was way slow. I aborted a couple minutes into the D/L. [06:58] http://z0rz.pastebin.com/461875 is what it says [06:58] dabaR: uname -a Linux linus 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linu === patton [n=patton@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] _smd_: ya, they are connected for some reason, I never fixed it myself. [06:58] Aviatrixie, I don't know if it's still updated, but Games Knoppix has a couple releases as well. [06:58] inv_arp: ya, but how did you install that kernel [06:58] <_smd_> dabaR_ that is my frustration === patton [n=patton@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] and when I try to vnc to 192 === patton [n=patton@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] dabaR: default with install [06:59] to myip:1 it says failed to connect === patton [n=patton@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] havent chged a thing [06:59] inv_arp: ya, I have that one too. sec. === dexcel [n=dexcel@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] tryagain, not as barebones as it could be, but there are a few non-open-source packages that are not included in the standard install. [07:00] z0rz: sudo chown -r z0rz:z0rz /home/z0rz (assuming z0rz is your username) then retry === lavacoil [n=pavan@pcp06756440pcs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] I'm liking Ubuntu bunches. But goddess... I guess I'm going to have to learn cli if I install. === dexcel [n=dexcel@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu === sabmann [n=sabmann@dsl123-8.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu === dexcel [n=dexcel@pc-123-178-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] Dabar_ still not working ? :\ weird [07:01] Aviatrixie you dont HAVE to learn the command line....and the helpful stuff you can learn bit by bit [07:01] Alright what ftp server do ya'll suggest? [07:01] ProFTPd? [07:01] hmmm relative to other things :) [07:01] B166ERX: try the new one. === lucis [n=sam@adsl-70-232-80-225.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] z0rz: any change? [07:02] z0rz: use sftpd. vsftpd. ftp sends your password in plain text. [07:02] I'm wondering how to tell which version of ubuntu i have installe [07:02] d [07:02] lucis: lsb_release -a [07:02] thanks [07:02] dabar_ i'm wondering if i saved the good fstab, cause still unnacessible, even from /media/hda1 [07:02] so sftpd? [07:02] vsftpd === lucis [n=sam@adsl-70-232-80-225.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu [] === lavacoil [n=pavan@pcp06756440pcs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:03] Does autocad work on linux? [07:03] tryagain [07:03] Aviatrixie, it really hasn't taken that long for me. The Starter Guide really helped me out a lot when I was starting. I've been using Ubuntu since about Feb. and I still need instructions for many things CL (through man pages or whatnot), but I'm getting better. For most things you're set if all you know is sudo apt-get install and how to occassionally edit and copy/paste stuff into a config file. [07:03] tryagain: you can maybe go about some way of runing it. I dont think anyone here knows. === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has left #ubuntu [] [07:04] Hmmm. [07:04] tryagain, it may be able to be emulated, though there is a free cad program - QCAD that may work. [07:04] im not sure if autocad runs in wine but im geussing not.... [07:04] I have an autocad project due soon [07:04] their are CAD programs for linux though [07:04] Funny thing... I was an early adaptor. 1982... bought a TI/99. Went through a ton of over priced toys... c-64, amiga, apple... loved apple os 7. Finally settled into windows 3.1. geez... I'm old!!! [07:04] dabar_ still not :\ arrr [07:04] and i know trial copies are avaible from autodesk [07:04] night all [07:04] B166ERX: you run sudo mount -a after making a change? [07:04] i like open office [07:04] yes [07:05] Aviatrixie i used to use windows 3.11 dont feel bad [07:05] and os7 did rock :) === Tartaros [n=icechat5@r4al191.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu [07:05] B166ERX: try that one.. [07:05] My son has infected his AND my PC's with CWS highjacks. I'm ready to divorce Mr. Gates. [07:05] anyone here familiar with ISPConfig? [07:06] tryagain: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html - there may be more cad programs as well, I haven't really looked into it. [07:06] Aviatrixie: CWS? wazzat? [07:06] college world series === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has joined #ubuntu [07:06] does vsftpd support fxp sessions [07:06] dabar_ looking bad, still not [07:06] Aviatrixie, I know the feeling. It's really nice to not have to run anti-virus or spyware tools. === navarone [n=me_again@ip-21.49.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:07] B166ERX: your file looks exactly like the pastebin? [07:07] am i out of luck when it comes to games? such as fear? [07:07] tryagain, there are many games that are suported by a progam called cedega. [07:07] yes...cut and paste === goo_ is now known as goo [07:07] tryagain: no idea about FEAR, but Quake has a Linux-native version [07:07] CSW is coolwebsearch === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has left #ubuntu [] [07:08] tryagain, some windows games work under wine and xwine === sorush20 [n=sorush3@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [07:08] i know tribes 2 does too [07:08] tryagain: try transgaming.org if you want. [07:08] that qcad looks nice form the screens [07:08] If you haven't used windows in a couple years you wouldn't know about it [07:08] it's nasty [07:08] tryagain: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/ [07:09] csw is some kind of spyware thing...like comet cursor [07:09] tryagain, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/CAD/index.shtml [07:09] Aviatrixie, oh, yes. The computers at school are constantly being bogged down by crap like that. [07:09] omg cool web search i had it one time it was so nice im gld who ever installed it did === wizatcom [i=wizatcom@pool-162-83-75-214.fred.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] no... cws is a trojan that takes your os hostage === azzz [n=noemail@203.19.141.34] has left #ubuntu [] [07:09] simonvallore, I hope you're kidding. === yosef [n=yosef@85-65-30-41.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] Can someone help me filename encoding? [07:10] Aviatrixie: I used Windows until May of this year, but I've always had a healthy distrust of most of those "free" "helpful" addons... :P === benplaut [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === MarkShark [n=mk@64-30-195-34.dsl.linkline.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] I've got a few network directories in hebrew, that appear as gibberish in ubuntu [07:11] Madpilot, especially the ones with 40 page EULAs and privacy policies. [07:11] thundr, you dont like it ? === sirexas [n=mantas@office.idamas.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] it hijacks your browser, disables your av and firewall, makes your homepage some bizarre porn site... [07:11] it was great very helpfull they should be taken off the spyware list [07:11] Madpilot...I find people just click on these web sites banners without thinking...that happened alot at work...people losing their desktops when payload hits...that sorta thing [07:11] the only way to fix it is to reformat your drive and do a clean install === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:12] simonvallore, no. What exactly was it helpful at? Displaying popups? What can it do that something like google can't? [07:12] ive gotten rid of it before [07:12] its hard though [07:12] anyone know how to get proper encoding in the filesystem? [07:12] even google has a search bar...why use anything else really? [07:12] yosef, sounds like you might need to install the correct language package. [07:12] thundr, the popups were helpfull i also hd another one that informed me of spy where its amazing how often it was cathing it [07:13] i bought 7 or 8 spyware programs it suggested [07:13] simonvallore: I do hope you're joking... :P [07:13] I got rid of an earlier cws hijack... but tooncomics was too much. the core changes it's name with each reboot [07:13] thundr I have the right languages installed [07:13] how to set natlius to open a specific extension (.lyx in my case) with a specific application (lyx in my case). PS right click then setting open with in properties is not working and i do not know why so am seeking other solutions? === navarone looks up gullible in dict [07:13] is there a way to have linux and windows or sometoher os on the same hd? [07:13] without partitions? [07:13] lol spy where [07:13] Madpilot, of course i am lol [07:13] heh firefox crashes way too much [07:13] whats the newest 1.0 something? [07:14] im on 1.0.7 [07:14] 1.5 [07:14] oops [07:14] navarone: you wont find gullible in the dictionary [07:14] navarone - not updated for ubuntu yet :/ [07:14] thundr do you experiance with this? [07:14] 1.5 for windows released [07:14] sirexas: 1.5 is out; I gather it crashes at least as often as any other version of FF does... [07:14] siriusnova try opera much more stable [07:14] frogzoo: :) [07:14] ilba7r - yeah except opera wont play movies and trailers :/ [07:14] I'm sorry. I don't, yosef. === Ribs [n=ribs@riblet.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] frogzoo...it is right next to cliche [07:14] siriusnva you can set it up do play them [07:15] hmm k [07:15] lol [07:15] Anyone have experiance with wrong char encoding in the filesystem? [07:15] Madpilot, but it's not out for breezy backports, officially AFAIK. [07:15] yosef...i once set terminal font to wingdings...j/k [07:15] siriusnova tools>pref>advanced [07:16] thundr... are you a mod here? === Quequeg [i=nbdy@ool-4352ea29.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] navarone thnx, but I am in need of help, here... [07:16] Aviatrixie, no, I'm not. I'm curious, though. Why do you ask? [07:16] B166ERX: make it how it was with the umask, as in the NextTry post. Then unmount the drive using "sudo umount /dev/hda1", then sudo mount -a === seth_k is now known as seth_k|away [07:16] no way thunder doesn't glow of golden sunshine [07:16] yosef what encoding you need enabled? === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] to play dvds [07:17] it says go to a terminal [07:17] what is a terminal [07:17] navarone, he needs hebrew [07:17] navarone I'm not sure, I think hebrew windows 1255 [07:17] and type in something [07:17] Just curious... I used to mod a forum. You seemed like a mod. ;) [07:17] yosef...is hebrew characters in character map? [07:17] navarone meaning? [07:18] thundr more new wave than mod...;) [07:18] navarone yes === jasonjdp [n=jasonjdp@ppp-71-139-83-159.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] Aviatrixie, thanks. I don't think I've ever been called that before. [07:18] tryagain: The terminal is in your applications menu. [07:18] is it possible and/or difficult to set up remote desktop between two ubuntu computers, so one can do remote administration on one machine from the other? [07:18] setting my NYC grandmother up with linux [07:18] I think Ubuntu is a very good thing. I hope Mr. Gates is making a mess in his pants over it. ;) [07:19] found [07:19] Ubuntu people really need to swap out Totem + Firefox Plugin with Mozilla Mplayer plugin and mplayer [07:19] it really makes a 100% difference [07:19] dabar_ its working :) hm, if i want to change 'hda1' name to 'windows' where should i change it ? [07:19] benplaut, yes, it's possible. [07:19] siriusnova, yeah buddy [07:19] I need to find good info on cli stuff [07:19] thundr: through the gnome app for enabling, then using tsclient? [07:20] none geek stuff [07:20] Aviatrixie, what do you want to do? [07:20] aww cool [07:20] something happen [07:20] benplaut, however, I don't know how to do it. I really have no experience in that kind of thing. [07:20] i just dont know what [07:20] anybody ever get onboard audio working on an ASUS mobo? just curious [07:20] k [07:20] varsendagger - with mplayer and mplayer mozilla plugin and disabling the totem plugin for firefox i can watch apple trailers, yahoo movie trailers, you name it. With Totem all I get is an error message lol [07:20] everything, varsendagger [07:20] i'll try to do it from a live system into my computer, see if it works [07:20] navarone got anything for me? [07:21] I'm a rank newbie. BUT... I'm an intelligent woman that wants to learn how. [07:21] jasonjdp: I've got an Asus mobo, and the onboard sound has always worked perfectly in Ubuntu [07:21] Hello! I can not get Blender to start. When I try to start it from terminal it says: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Help anyone? [07:21] !cli [07:21] it has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org === curtis--mac [n=curtishu@c-67-170-91-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] siriusnova, i tried to get mplayer working on debian and could'n t do it but then i fired up ubuntu and in three minutes i was watching movies in firefox [07:22] hmm, odd... ive got a A7V333 and it didnt set it up ;-( [07:22] Madpilot... you fly? [07:22] Aviatrixie: there. read if you want.^ [07:22] linux makes me think [07:23] Aviatrixie: I do - you? [07:23] --- i watched streaming malcom in inth middle lastnight, and i can ususally get daria or P&T BS [07:23] dabaR_... I got no link [07:23] varsendagger - ya no kidding, mplayer is so much nicer === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:23] tryagain, what about [07:23] about little things [07:23] Yes... I do, Mad [07:23] yosef...can't see anyhting in config editor...a lot about fonts but mostly global options not for directories only [07:23] just installing things [07:23] !tell Aviatrixie about cli === nemik [i=nemik@c-67-162-61-199.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:23] anyone here know anything about VNC servers? [07:24] how can i see what kind of memory i have? pc2100 or pc2700 [07:24] error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install): [07:24] package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) [07:24] Errors were encountered while processing: [07:24] w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb [07:24] tryagain: visit gnu.org/philosophy/why-gnu-linux.html to learn about the name. [07:24] that means its not working? [07:24] nemik, screwdriver and flashlight [07:24] tryagain: check out paste.ubuntulinux.nl to learn about how to paste. [07:24] sethk, i need to apt-get both? ;) seriously though is there a way? [07:24] anyone know how to install cdrdao-1.2.1.tar.gz ? [07:24] tryagain, like what goes on behind the windows is loading screen [07:25] nemik, yes, in the /sys and /proc directories you'll find the info. [07:25] nemik somet9mes it says memory type as you boot up === dabaR__ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-179-152.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu === dabaR_ is now known as dabaR [07:25] i guess. [07:25] driving an auto vs a manual [07:25] you gotta get used to it === citydog [n=kcheung@69.156.20.149] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] navarone, rather not restart now... just wanted to see some software solution to this [07:25] nemik, you may be able to find it in your bios setup [07:25] --- C:/wheres/the/beer... oh crap i have to runn some programs that my owner didn't install just to burn memory [07:26] that memory isn't goinig to use itself [07:26] madpilot... jets or recips? [07:27] Dido-: why not use the version that ubuntu has? [07:27] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-gnu-linux.html shows as NOT FOUND [07:28] 404 message [07:28] Aviatrixie: recip - I've just got my Private, still working toward IFR/Comm [07:28] ok :) [07:28] We're sorry... [07:28] ... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected. [07:28] We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses and other spurious software. [07:28] We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google. [07:29] what the heck? [07:29] gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html actually. and visit gnu.org/philosophy it is a good read. [07:29] I got those almost 40 years ago === RedGhost [n=bp2626@S0106000c6e212de6.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:29] ok === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === snpz [n=buuu@159.148.143.5] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] so. Good night to all. [07:31] Aviatrixie: you've been flying just a bit longer than I have, then :) [07:31] what is needed to play a dvd? totem complains. could not play DVD [07:32] !dvd [07:32] extra, extra, read all about it, dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl See also !libdvdcss2" [07:32] thats a big read [07:32] i get free software [07:32] !libdvdcss2 [07:32] tryagain: What? [07:32] I've been doing it for a living... prolly longer tha any sane person should. === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu === ldy [n=ldy@202.108.130.138] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] join #debian-zh [07:32] !libdvdcss2 [07:33] hmmm. [07:33] I installed mysql and php5 sepeartely [07:33] I need to link them in php.ini right? [07:33] Hi all. Is there someone who use ubuntu on IBM-T42? [07:33] hi ldy [07:33] but I'm not here to teach aviation... I'm here to learn linux [07:33] what do you need === boxdude [n=jselb@pcp0011072774pcs.kilng01.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] Aviatrixie: I planning on flying for a living - and as for sanity, holding a PL & being sane seem to be mutually exclusive === yosef [n=yosef@85-65-30-41.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] ilba7r, Hello, I can not find eth1 after modprobe ipw2100 [07:34] ldy i have here ipw2200 [07:34] ilba7r, After modprobe ipw2100, iwconfig can not find eth1 [07:34] and it worked out of the box [07:35] ilba7r, How did you do that? === [Zeno_17] [n=[Zeno_17@202.123.234.144] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] Ilta, only modprobe ipw2200? [07:35] hehe [07:35] debar .. I have everything installed I just want to link mysql to php [07:35] then I'm done [07:35] is installing the nvida drivers for my gf4 gonna be easy? ive installed quite a few things in ubuntu already... now im looking into messing with my display drivers [07:35] ldy it worked out of the box for me on breezy === [Zeno_17] [n=[Zeno_17@202.123.234.144] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:35] ldy give me a min will give you alink [07:36] ilba7r, ok,thanks [07:36] jasonjdp, it's not that hard. [07:36] jasonjdp, let me see if I can get you some instructions [07:36] <3 thundr! [07:37] ldy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM === Knorrie [n=knorrie@2002:915e:9ab4:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu [07:37] ldy so do you have ipw2100? [07:37] jasonjdp, try here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-hardware [07:38] ldy or did you install it for i know it is also automatically installed by breezy === phillyb [n=pzubik@bgp998264bgs.nanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:38] I hope that's not too hard, jasonjdp [07:38] madpilot... good luck... flying has been the most joyous experience of my life. BUT... I've seen my pay cut more than in half, my benefits DRASTICALY reduced, and my wonderful pension TAKEN AWAY from me... all in the name of bankruptcy. Meanwhile, the idiots and a**holes in upper management walk away with parachutes, bennys, and pensions intact. [07:38] i just got dvdshrink working! and so much better than in windows even though it is running under wine! this is awesome! i no longer need windows. feels so good :) [07:38] thnx bro! [07:39] ilba7r, Yes [07:39] yay! reinstalling xubuntu again === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:39] Aviatrixie, oh, you work for "that" airline. [07:39] ilba7r, lspci result: 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) [07:39] Hey, could somebody help me get 3d acceleration working with an nvidia card? [07:39] boxdude, yes [07:39] err... yes? [07:39] how do i get the cd player to play ym cd? === adnans [n=adnans@linuxgoeroe.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] thundr, ok, how do i start? [07:40] ldy ok you have the atheros then ok give me a min [07:40] boxdude, try here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver === viviersf [n=cain@dsl-146-100-81.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] nevermind. it was reading of fthe wrong drive [07:40] ilba7r, I can modprobe both ipw2100 and ipw2200. [07:40] ldy look at the ibmthinkpad t42p [07:40] system is getting very laggy [07:41] ldy did you check the /etc/network/interfaces file [07:41] boxdude, it'll probably be easier to copy and paste the code from the page than here. But feel free to ask if you run into any problems. [07:41] ilba7r, I have edit /etc/network/interfaces. [07:41] ok i remember now sometimes the network is not recognized if you turend it off by Fn F5 try to turn it on first [07:42] anyone here know anything about vnc servers, or remote desktop ubuntu>ubuntu in general? [07:42] ilba7r, I add "auto eth1" and "iface eth1 inet dhcp" [07:42] ilba7r, Is that right? [07:43] yah and it works fine here [07:43] thundr, alright thanks === parabolize [n=paraboli@68-69-136-167.clspco.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:43] <_jason> benplaut, I know freenx works great for me === cc [n=dougpete@24-182-153-9.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:43] _jason: using freenx on the server side, an ubuntu machine? [07:44] <_jason> benplaut, yes [07:44] boxdude, no problem === stephans [n=stephans@mail.farorbit.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:44] ok thanks guys [07:44] hello there.. [07:44] im gonna go to bed for now [07:44] ilba7r, which kernel does you use? === tryagain [n=ubuntu@astound-64-85-255-23.ca.astound.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === hmpedersen [n=MrPeders@0x535ea629.hsnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] dabaR, beacause when i ran k3b it said that i dont have cdrdao and i need to install it so i downloaded it [07:46] Dido-, should install as a dependency [07:47] I have a small question about installing.. === Pedrolito [n=Pedrolit@toronto-HSE-ppp4294008.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [07:47] sethk, sorry i didnt understand? [07:48] 8kb/s repos = not good [07:48] Dido-, if you don't have cdrdao, synaptic should install it for you as a dependency. you shouldn't have to manually download it. [07:48] would anyone here like to chat? [07:48] Dido-, also you have to run k3b as sudo === brainball [n=haico@pdpc/supporter/active/brainball] has joined #ubuntu === Digis [n=digis@85.206.228.197] has joined #ubuntu === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] Hi, I just installed ubuntu, and I would like to update it, but it's asking for a root password and I was never asked to set any during the installation. What's going on? [07:49] My pc has an amd athlon 64.. Will i be able to install the i386 on the computer? === sattlerium [n=ubuntu@S01060014bf4321a9.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === zoyd [n=vinay@220.225.32.98] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] Pedro, there is no root password.. Use your user password.. [07:49] hello all [07:49] cc, not to be rude, but you may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic since this channel is pretty busy. [07:49] thundr: you shouldn't have to - I don't [07:49] sethk, so how to install it as dependancy [07:49] this is my first time here...sorry i'm a windows user normally... [07:49] !tell Pedrolito about root [07:50] k thundr...how do i do that? [07:50] thanks Madpilot [07:50] cc, just /join #ubuntu-offtopic [07:50] cc, /j #ubuntu-offtopic [07:50] my first time here too - is there a place for new mac people_ [07:51] bbl [07:51] sattlerium, i'm a mac / ubuntu user, if you have any specific questions [07:51] sattlerium: Ubuntu on Mac? right here... === omeg [n=omega@e93034.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] cool - you two mac people === No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] _jason: once it's installed, is there a guide i can follow to set it up? [07:52] well my computer crashed...so i just put this on here..lol..sorry its my boyfriends and i have no clue what i'm doing...but would like to learn [07:52] so, anyone know what the hold up on xorg 7.0RC3 is? [07:52] <_jason> benplaut, did you have ssh up and running before you installed? [07:52] Madpilot, "It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to increase the overall stability of the burning process." [07:52] sattlerium: I'm not, actually. x86 myself - but there are Ubuntu PPC users here too [07:52] _jason: going by the fact that i don't know, probably not [07:52] Thing is this. I hav a iMacG4 with an external FW drive and the bootloader did not want to install... [07:52] cc, that's okay, we're always helping new users here. [07:53] this is a completely new topic to me [07:53] yi: hold up? [07:53] cc, if you have any specific questions, just ask [07:53] there's no way to enable the root account? [07:53] ajmitch: in dapper [07:53] well thank goodness..lol...i [07:53] I should go. sweet dreams linux people! ;) [07:53] Pedrolito, you can, but i would recommend against it [07:53] m not sure how i even made it here...lol.. [07:53] cool, guys [07:53] Aviatrixie, good night! [07:53] <_jason> benplaut, okay, well you should start by setting up ssh (search the wiki, it's easy to do) and then read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX (also easy to do) [07:53] thanks [07:53] eobanb, why? [07:53] yi: why do you say it's 'held up'? === oemg [n=omega@h8441190238.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] Pedrolito, security reasons [07:53] where can i go to just chat with ppl about "stuff in general" [07:54] stuff in general about ubuntu? [07:54] ajmitch: because no binaries have been uploaded for it and from rc1/rc2 the updates were rather quick [07:54] ...cuz ya'll are losing me..lol [07:54] here, or perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic [07:54] Hi everybody. I just installed dosbox via repository. However, the whole directory it's in is owned by root, meaning that I can't create my own config files. How do I make myself the owner? [07:54] Pedrolito, if you need to perform an operation as root, use sudo [07:54] ajmitch: it includes some pretty important fixes [07:54] sethk, i enabled synapic to consider recommendet packs as dependencies but when when i refreshed didnt download... any other help? [07:54] yi: maybe it's because the maintainer was on holiday? and this is dapper :) [07:54] cc, join #ubuntu-offtopic, it's a bit quieter. [07:54] cc, I don't get all the stuff everyone's talking about in here. [07:54] cc, so you're not alone. :) [07:55] ajmitch: maintainers on holiday? how ridiculous! ;) [07:55] Dido-, try to update your dependencies [07:55] lol...nice to know... [07:55] Dido-, your repositories, sorry [07:55] <_jason> cc, type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic [07:55] ajmitch: i was just curious if there were any outstanding issues that kept it from getting commited === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] okay...really...can someone tell me how to get to the offtopic thing.. [07:56] cc, type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic [07:56] <_jason> cc, i just told you [07:56] yi: no, since it was being uploaded a few minutes before you asked [07:56] cc: type that in the same place you're typing to chat to us [07:56] i realize u might have jason...but u dont understand how lost i am here..lol [07:56] or at least ready for upload [07:56] thank you mad...lol [07:56] sethk, this is what i did exactly but it didn't work ;[ cant u help me out to install the one i've downloaded [07:56] <_jason> cc, lol it's ok :) [07:57] Dido-, sorry, I have to go for a while. I'll be back. Mine installs so we can see what's different about my install and yours. [07:57] Dido-, wish I dind't have to go for a bit, but unavoidable. [07:58] Seveas: your FreeNX repo is no longer active? [07:59] I was wondering, I can't edit anything inside a certain program's directory (dosbox), meaning that I can't create config files. This is because root owns the directory. How can I make myself the owner (or edit root's files?) [07:59] ajmitch: neat [07:59] Is it wise to chown -R z0rz /var/www ? [07:59] oemg, use sudo [07:59] sudo gedit /path/to/file [07:59] ^--example [07:59] <_jason> benplaut, I think he put a mirror up [07:59] ah, ok [07:59] or should I just leave /var/www owned by root and when I want to edit something in /var/www just sudo vi it? [08:00] hi guys. can someone tell me what the correct procedure is to use a custom kernel? make-kpkg and all that? [08:00] !perms [08:00] permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename. Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console. === oemg is now known as omeg === techrush [n=techrush@ip68-104-90-114.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === croppa [i=user199@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === mkyb14 [n=mkyb14@carlsbad-cuda-6-69-162-83-77.crlsca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] _jason: that's not working, either [08:00] 404 [08:00] Thanks ubotflu [08:00] z0rz: I left /var/www owned by root, but all the sub-directories in it - that actually have stuff in them - are owned by my user - but this is NOT a live server, just a dev/testing install... [08:00] oh bitchX owns [08:01] uhm, I was wondering, do you know if it is possible to install the PPC version on FW drive_, eobanb [08:01] so what would be the best bet for a live server? [08:01] is mpdvdkit2 or libdvdcss in the repositories? [08:01] I want to ftp to it and edit files and stuff without doing domain.name/~username [08:01] <_jason> benplaut, strange, jsut downlaoded the package manually [08:02] rgr [08:02] best for a live server is to leave whats in /var/www alone and make sure o has read and execute perms [08:02] who's o? [08:02] <_jason> benplaut, but I think your right, it's not setup right (although I don't know too much about it). Might want to wait for seveas to show up [08:02] other === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu [08:02] yeah [08:03] _jason, can u help me out to install cdrdao-1.2.1.tar.gz ? === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] <_jason> Dido-, I have no idea what that is, I would if I could [08:03] z0rz: change your document root to somewhere else... leave the /var/www/ files alone they are usually for icons and error pages anyways === Dmon [n=dmon@81-234-129-72-o824.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] <_jason> benplaut, see: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx//pool/freenx/ hrmmmmmmmm [08:04] what about phpmyadmin? [08:04] just mv the files? [08:04] Dido-: tar -xzf cdrdao-1.2.1.tar.gz === skobel [n=skobel@fl-boca-cuda1-c1a-155.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === BigIsle [n=secret@big.uhh.hawaii.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:04] _jason: i'm downloading them all manually, dpkg -i *.deb [08:04] Dido-: then look for a readme or install file inside of the new directory === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1A98F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [08:04] <_jason> benplaut, don't do that [08:04] ? [08:04] why not? === iKernel [n=chatzill@CPE-144-137-6-197.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === MM2 [n=moversti@www.edu.haapavesi.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:04] <_jason> benplaut, iirc there were a few dependencies I needed and dpkjg won't get them for you [08:05] !kernel [08:05] Boo! :P === loorn1 [i=kumiseta@addr-82-128-200-119.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] z0rz: move everything that you would put in /var/www/htdocs somewhere else [08:05] hm. guess not. [08:05] I'm running k3bsetup and I'm trying to get myself into a "burning" group so I have privleges to cdrecord and can do all that stuff. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I've already created a group but I don't know what to do with the group id. [08:05] _jason: install the synaptic version, then uninstall :) [08:05] What's ubuntu like? === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] like /usr/local/web-files or some other large partition [08:05] What's ubuntu like? [08:05] What's ubuntu like? [08:05] What's ubuntu like? [08:05] iKernel: stop that now [08:05] ah, /ignore. [08:05] redeeman, i unpacked and read the readme and install but nothing usefull there.. the install says to type "make" next "make install" but bash: make: command not found [08:06] err, universe version [08:06] 'tis a beautiful thing. [08:06] ajmitch: I already have. === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] but to answer your question, iKernel, it's nice. === mode/#ubuntu [+o ajmitch] by ChanServ [08:06] <_jason> benplaut, what errors were you getting exactly? [08:06] Uh oh. [08:06] someoens boutta get hit with a banhammer === Mr_Milenko points and laughs [08:06] _jason: can't find fonts === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-214.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] Mr_Milenko: shush :P [08:06] :( [08:06] lol [08:06] <_jason> benplaut, I meant using the repo [08:06] 404 === iKernel is now known as Leenuks [08:07] on both [08:07] Dido-: you need to install make [08:07] after upgrading to breezy, i rebooted and now I have gui login or any gui whatsoever... help? [08:07] <_jason> benplaut, i'm gonna try them [08:07] and now i have NO gui login or anything.. [08:08] CaptainMorgan: are you on ubuntu now? [08:08] no [08:08] Win [08:08] You should be on ubuntu. [08:08] CaptainMorgan: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu? [08:08] <_jason> benplaut, working ok for me, did you add the gpg keys? [08:08] you can irc from the console so we can help you. [08:09] CaptainMorgan: login and run: more /var/log/Xorg.0.log === dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] uhm.. I would, but I can't run xchat from the command line. [08:09] use irssi [08:09] CaptainMorgan: but you can run irssi [08:09] _jason: yup [08:09] brb, i need to test a few things [08:09] you can /connect to servers with irssi :) [08:09] CaptainMorgan: the same thing happened to me when I upgraded to breezy... turned out kdm had been removed completely. simple apt-get install kdm did the trick... but that was kubuntu [08:09] that allI need is the command ? === sorush20 [n=sorush3@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [08:10] and then you need to connect to freenode. [08:10] sattlerium, i'm not sure === muep [n=joonas@roi-ff33c000-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] i think so, i'd check though [08:10] _jason: ok, working now [08:10] the gpg key failed the first time, i think [08:10] <_jason> benplaut, okay, you got ssh up and runnning already? === shriver [n=shriver@65-100-208-141.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] _jason: not yet, going by the wiki [08:11] CaptainMorgan: in irssi just type /connect irc.freenode.org and after connected, /join #ubuntu :) === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] <_jason> benplaut, okay, I guess it may just pull in ssh with it. I had it setup beforehand [08:12] CaptainMorgan: but if you're running kubuntu, try sudo apt-get install kdm first [08:12] irc.freenode.net ? [08:12] Chousuke: is irssi a standard install in ubuntu? I'm pretty sure I had to apt-get it... [08:12] is it .net? [08:12] ash_: right. === jmibanez [n=client@203.160.171.169] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] well, sudo apt-get install irssi-text [08:12] _jason: i'm out for a few mins, but the repo still isn't working... i'll figure out why in a few minutes === brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:13] and: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start will start KDM if it's not installed after all. [08:13] after installing it of course [08:14] Chousuke: I was scratching my head over that one for a while. Still not sure why it removed kdm when upgrading. Of course, some would argue that removing a gui login *is* an upgrade... ;) === fanny [n=fan@202.159.68.106] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] ash_: meh. [08:14] aiet... wrote down most of the commands.. Ill give it shot.. thanks [08:14] good luck [08:14] ash - Im more of 50/50 guy [08:14] heh [08:14] xdm ftw. [08:14] <_jason> benplaut, k, good luck [08:14] too much of one can be not good :/ [08:15] alright, brb [08:15] after I added myself to a "burning" group and changed everything in k3bsetup with no errors, I started k3b again as myself and it says it can't find cdrecord or cdrdao. Any ideas? [08:15] benplaut, it should be - what's the error? === miwer [n=miwer@1-1-11-37a.mfb.mlm.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === DShepherd [n=dwight@port0228-aby-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] Where's DocumentRoot in apache2? [08:18] hey [08:18] hey [08:19] z0rz, wherever you want (/var/www by default) === lavacoil [n=pavan@pcp06756440pcs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Pedrolito [n=Pedrolit@toronto-HSE-ppp4294008.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] no I mean.. where do I specify it? [08:19] How do I add the dapper repo? [08:19] in your httpd.conf [08:19] i think it's in /etc/ [08:19] z0rz: /var/www [08:19] I want to specify a new DocumentRoot [08:19] z0rz: but there also a per user default [08:20] How can I do so in apache2 [08:20] I don't want a per user I don't htink [08:20] z0rz: locate httpd.conf [08:20] z0rz, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ [08:20] frogzoo, that's deprecated [08:20] yeah frogzoo that's 1.3 [08:20] Seveas: uh oh - showing my age === bazka16 [n=bazka16@190-102-28.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] Seveas: it's 404ing on me [08:21] exit === bazka16 [n=bazka16@190-102-28.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [08:21] Seveas what do I type in that? [08:21] quit === AMethyst [n=ame@sw-dsl-79-166.whidbey.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] ah [08:21] It doesn't have any examples [08:21] nm I figured it out [08:22] benplaut, hmm [08:22] Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/binary-i 386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [08:22] ah right [08:22] for some games the sound just doesnt work. How can I fix this [08:22] !sound [08:22] hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary [08:22] Seveas: i did the pgp key [08:22] s/breezy/ubuntu/ [08:22] err [08:22] gpg [08:22] benplaut, retry please [08:22] k === B166ERX [n=oli@c207.134.134-180.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu === cvt [n=cvt@pcp08899240pcs.hcksrd01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:23] for some games the sound just doesnt work. How can I fix this? === gnu2it2 [n=kgrimm@cpe-069-134-161-191.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] after I added myself to a "burning" group and changed everything in k3bsetup with no errors, I started k3b again as myself and it says it can't find cdrecord or cdrdao. Any ideas? [08:24] Seveas: btw, gpg only works as su/sudo... is that normal? [08:24] benplaut, only if you used sudo the first time you used gpg [08:25] Seveas: no clue... does it make any difference? [08:25] benplaut, to remedy this: sudo rm ~/.gnupg/ and don't do sudo gpg anymore :) === Leenuks [n=chatzill@CPE-144-137-6-197.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [08:25] k [08:27] benplaut, I'm afk again for probably a long time, feel free to /msg me when you still have problems [08:27] ok, all working :D [08:28] what is th APT LINE to add a custom repository so i can install libdvdcss and win32codecs to breezy with synaptic? [08:28] !w32codecs [08:28] [w32codecs] a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install [08:28] gnu2it2, it's in the faq [08:28] that's a nice memorable link. === bach_skol [i=hidden-u@nat.ksk.sala.se] has joined #ubuntu === dupont_ [n=dupont@euville.loria.fr] has joined #ubuntu === z0rz [i=z0rz@wrong.domain.name] has left #ubuntu [] [08:29] okay, if no one can help me with that...is there a way to find the keymap for "shift+tab" and remap the insert key as that? === Inzion [n=Inzion@213.144.129.158] has joined #ubuntu === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === spockboy [i=fc9bf6d4@homenet.spockboy.com] has left #ubuntu [] [08:31] _jason: ok, everything *should* be configured, and the client works... how do i turn on the server? === Kwitschibo [n=Kwitschi@p5480493F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === adam_ [n=adam@219.144.97.3] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] <_jason> benplaut, should be on [08:32] <_jason> benplaut, install the client and try to login to it === kerosin__ [n=kerosin@dslb-084-058-201-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === londonboi2k3 [n=kileya@82-69-165-102.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [08:32] _jason: so it is always on, as a background process? [08:33] <_jason> benplaut, yep [08:33] Hi guys, what is the packege name for emacs? not the gui one but the one I can use in the shell? [08:33] _jason: what would the hostname be? an IP adress? [08:33] <_jason> benplaut, yeah === londonboi2k3 [n=kileya@82-69-165-102.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [08:34] _jason: and do i have to use the nxclient to connect, or would another client work? [08:35] <_jason> benplaut, nomachine.org I think there is a way to set it up to work as a webpage but I'm not sure and haven't looked into it === shriver [n=shriver@65-100-208-141.slkc.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:35] k === ra21vi [n=ravi@203.196.175.122] has joined #ubuntu === erik__ [n=erik@ip34-107-172-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] hi, i m using Ubuntu 5.10 and I want to get developemtn libs for programming === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-182-214.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === carlos [n=carlos@71.Red-83-53-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] hello how can i change DHCP3 from eth0 to eth3 ? [08:37] i got anjuta/gcc4/glade2 [08:37] but I am having problem with making project === benplaut remote-desktop's into his own IP [08:38] any c/c++ developer here, please its urgent === DShepherd [n=dwight@port0228-aby-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has left #ubuntu [] === pavel_ [n=pavel@pool-71-112-131-31.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [08:39] well //that's// not going to work :P [08:39] ra21vi, you may also want to try #debian or #debian_ [08:40] change your sources.list do an apt-get update and look for the right programs ra21vi === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [08:41] _jason: the way it //should work is i install identical setups on each machine, then tell my grandmother to email me her ip, from whatsmyip.com, for example, then put that into the config? [08:41] thundr: ok :) [08:42] I don't know how friendly the #debian folks will be, though :) [08:42] hello how can i change DHCP3 from eth0 to eth3 ? [08:42] <_jason> benplaut, you would want tour grandmother's computer to have the server installed. Then once you get the ip, you can use the client on your machine. [08:42] thundr: but i remember the aggressive talk of debian sitters last time... they arent polite... [08:42] anybody ? [08:42] Bueller? [08:43] ra21vi, yeah, I had the same experience. I was just trying to get you the quickest answer without knowing anything myself. [08:43] erik__ tried replacing to eth3 in /etc/network/interfaces? [08:43] _jason: and it makes sense that trying to go into my own machine wouldn't work? i'm trying to test this, but it may not be working because of that === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-214.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:44] thundr: they fire at getting reference to UBUNTU... they say Ubuntu isn't Debian [08:44] <_jason> benplaut, it should work, I did it myself to test it. You should make sure you can ssh into it first. Do you have a firewall blocking port 22? === Yuri [n=yuri@201-42-129-177.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [08:45] _jason: i'm using port 8888, i'll check that it's open [08:45] ra21vi, yes, you may want not to mention Ubuntu there. Just say it's debian. === Yuri [n=yuri@201-42-129-177.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] === StarKruzr [n=jtd@adsl-70-224-39-162.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === Razor-X [n=user@user-11fb5lv.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.239.45] has joined #ubuntu === dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.tvnetwork.hu] has left #ubuntu [] [08:48] xspades, i'll look for it [08:49] it should be the last line or so [08:49] I'm going to have to ask again how using a larger WM is more productive, but, eh === Pedrolito [n=Pedrolit@toronto-HSE-ppp4293806.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] :P === lavacoil [n=pavan@pcp06756440pcs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.183.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] found it ................. editttt === Weiss_ [i=taw27@student.cusu.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] Razor-X: youre a resource junky? [08:50] :D === Centaur5 [n=fishman@68-187-79-131.dhcp.stgr.ut.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-137-250.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:51] errr === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-214.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:51] god, wrong channel [08:51] :P === rea [n=tret@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [08:52] lost my gui after upgrading to Breezy... any suggestions ? === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:52] !xserver [08:52] parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, benplaut === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu [08:52] !xserver ? [08:52] CaptainMorgan: Syntax error in line 1 [08:52] !reconfigure-xserver [08:52] benplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [08:52] damn you, ubotu [08:52] benplaut what are you trying to do? [08:52] ubotflu syntax error ? [08:52] CaptainMorgan: Did you get hit by a windmill? [08:52] CaptainMorgan: you can try to ``sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg'' if a reconfigure doesen't work [08:53] CaptainMorgan: try typing this into the terminal: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [08:53] CaptainMorgan: ubotu is the bot that lets me not type stuff like that^^ :P [08:53] _jason: the error log:NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 8630 [08:53] NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command [08:53] NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files === hyosuka [n=tret@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [08:53] make any sense? === GTroy [n=galen@70-57-162-112.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:54] Xspades it's not there in interfaces [08:54] ben I couldn't get irssi to work, so I don't have to run back forth between linux/win === quacker [n=w00t@S01060030ab077a70.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === cafuego [n=cafuego@ppp83-238.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:55] AIYEE! === cc [n=mohio@24-182-153-9.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:55] Which Gnome component is directly responsible for loading and displaying theme images? [08:55] CaptainMorgan: in english? your sentence conflicts with itselg... [08:55] ? [08:55] cafuego: i'm guessing it's with gkt [08:55] irssi - chat so I don' thave to run back and forth to win [08:56] IM in win right now [08:56] benplaut: Yeh, but which bit... [08:56] erik__ if your eth3 is configured, put 'iface eth3 inet dhcp' into the /etc/network/interfaces file and comment out the old line [08:56] CaptainMorgan: so irssi //is// working [08:56] huh? [08:56] no it' snot === cafuego just did an install, but filled up / - after reboot, Gnome (and gdm) can't load PNG or XPM images... [08:56] cafuego: let's say that #gtk+ is a junk channel === CuriousCat is now known as CuriousCat_doppl [08:56] or maybe it does.. but ic an't connect to freenode [08:56] CaptainMorgan: so you //are// haveing to switch back and forth to linux and windows [08:57] yes === CuriousCat_doppl is now known as CuriousCat === hyosuka [n=tret@202.95.133.10] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:57] stuff it, I'll just re-reinstall [08:57] ill try those commmands.. but it's a pain to run there and have them ont work.. [08:57] not [08:57] hello how can i change DHCP3 from eth0 to eth3 ? [08:57] anybody ? [08:57] and then run back === kevin [n=kevin@202.159.68.106] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] ra21vi, you've tried "sudo apt-get install anjuta gcc4 kdevelop qt-designer" === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === triple5 [n=Daniel@p54A7DD0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:59] help ? [08:59] this is trouble... I primarily work in linux, but now Im screwed [09:00] let me read it, just a second === topyli [n=juha@dsl-hkigw3-fe23de00-139.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:00] CaptainMorgan: try the command above^^ [09:00] whats the problem? [09:00] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [09:00] will ben.. but wouldn't mind a few more commands to try... PIA to run back and forht === winXperts [n=santos@ip70-171-16-129.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] CaptainMorgan: if that one doesn't work, then it's probably more trouble to fix the xserver than to reinstall... but that one fixes a broken xserver 99.9% of the time [09:01] Maybe it's not really an ubuntu question, but I installed ubuntu on a new partition, and I would like to get back to fedora. I kept all my fedora partitions, including the boot partition. Ubuntu set up my computer to boot on its partition. How do I get back to booting from my old boot partition? [09:02] CaptainMorgan: try a reconfigure: ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' [09:02] alright, Ill try it.. you gonna be here for a bit? [09:02] CaptainMorgan: if I'm not here, others should be able to help just as well :) [09:02] how do I back up on Linux to cd if I have to reinstall ? === juchipilo [n=juchipil@c-24-130-91-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:02] (like benplaut) === cc [n=mohio@24-182-153-9.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] CaptainMorgan: no need for re-installs [09:03] how did irssi fail? === sattlerium [n=ubuntu@S01060014bf4321a9.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] wouldn't connect to freenode [09:03] Razor-X: the extent of my knowledge on xserver is that command :P [09:03] maybe the address was wrong [09:03] irc.freenode.net ? === fluvvell [n=barryc@222-152-167-7.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] nope.. that's the one [09:03] does the machine have an internet connection? [09:03] what did it say? [09:03] benplaut: every faithful Ubuntian (Ubuntite, whatever) knows that like a mnemonic :) [09:03] e.g. can you ping google.com? [09:03] yes eo === Exxcaliber [n=exxcalib@0x50c4a570.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has joined #Ubuntu [09:04] irc.eu.freenode.net <- that's one [09:04] error - connection [09:04] I don't like to use sudo... how would i find out the root password in my ubuntu system [09:04] apparently there is no irc.freenode.org :/ [09:04] irc.eu* ? [09:04] juchipilo: there is none [09:04] juchipilo, there isnt one [09:04] sudo passwd set one, then su or sudo -s [09:04] will try to ping google eo [09:04] ok..thanks [09:04] Razor-X: aye [09:05] alright... brb :) === nekostar [n=starz@cpe-24-24-137-48.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] hope he also tries to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net :P [09:06] ra21vi, check in #debian_ as well. It's small, but they're friendly there. [09:07] xspades: it doesn't seem to work.. [09:08] what are you trying to do with root? [09:08] like login to gdm with it? === B166ERX [n=oli@c66.110.148-62.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu === hyosuka [n=tret@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [09:09] nothing right now.. i just hate having to use sudo. I'm used to become root and do what i need to do and then exit === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu === lexhider [n=lexhider@ppp76-185.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:09] sudo -s will get you root in a shell [09:10] i know.. but it's just the fact that i don't like sudo [09:10] well one sudo wont kill you [09:10] i open one up, sudo -s and leave it open for when needed [09:10] i just hate that. === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-115-140.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] it looks 'dirty' to my eyes === Chousuke is all for sudo [09:11] having to type sudo on every command i need to run doesn't seem right to me [09:12] but you don't have to. :P [09:12] thats the price of security. [09:12] juchipilo edit your shortcut for terminal to run sudo -s on startup so you are greeted with root right away [09:12] so that's why I want to know how to be able to become root [09:12] sudo -i [09:12] you're root [09:12] sudo bash....you're root also [09:12] how is this a big deal in any way [09:12] I think -i is better. [09:13] it loads root's evironment and all. or was that -s? [09:13] _jason: you there? [09:13] sudo -i asks me for the password [09:13] well duh... [09:13] of course it does [09:13] <_jason> benplaut, yep === kalim [n=kalim@217.167.255.237] has joined #ubuntu [09:13] if you hate entering the pass, edit suderos to stop asking you for it [09:13] if i knew the password then i wouldn't have the problem [09:13] it's yours [09:13] your normal user's pass. [09:13] _jason: it's timeing out and the log isn't reporting anything wrong... any ideas? [09:13] your normal user is the admin [09:14] <_jason> benplaut, are you sure the port is open? [09:14] oh. ok. i see [09:14] now i'm root [09:14] He's the superuser, but you elevate your rights only when necessary === hajiki [n=me@cpe-72-129-76-33.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] and now I can edit the root password [09:14] _jason: i haven't installed a firewall on the computer, and the router has it open [09:14] I don't recommend that though. :/ === ldy [n=ldy@202.108.130.138] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] why not === kalim [n=kalim@217.167.255.237] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === dima2001 [n=dima2001@sky105.wolke7.fh-mannheim.de] has joined #ubuntu === dima2001 is now known as damg [09:15] i dont know, i feel like if you have to ask how to enable a root password, you have no business doing it in the first place [09:15] Is there a program to do batch conversion from SVG to PNG? [09:15] besides remembering two passwords isn't good at all === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:15] or rather, it's just bothersome ;p === cc [n=mohio@24-182-153-9.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:16] eobanb. this isssue is not present in other distros... that's why i had to ask [09:16] <_jason> benplaut, try to ssh into your machine and see if it works: ssh benplaut@my.ip === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === NaAani` [n=josef@unaffiliated/NaAani] has joined #ubuntu [09:17] _jason: just hangs there... [09:17] juchipilo: It's not an "issue" [09:17] i'm out for the night, i'll mess with this more in the morning [09:17] in the negative sense at least :/ [09:17] Is there a program to do batch conversion from SVG to PNG? [09:17] yes.. to me it is [09:17] It's a Ubuntu design decision [09:17] and I think it's correct. === titanium [n=titanium@blk-222-158-20.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] I moved to sudo in Debian right after discovering it... it's just so much more conveninet to me than a root account :) [09:18] especially with a few select commands defined with NOPASSWD: [09:18] it should be the user's decision === eliphas_ [n=eliphas_@host-84-9-255-148.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] juchipilo: no. [09:19] I know that if you play with dapper, expect to get burned. When I upgrade everything works except internet access, is this to be expected??? [09:19] generic users have no clue about it [09:19] <_jason> benplaut, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97277&highlight=freenx+setup might help you. Also, I have my ssh setup to accept passwords and not require ssh keys so I don't know if that is part of the problem. [09:19] and in my case i decide that i become root to do my admin tasks and then exit [09:19] thats what sudo is for...... [09:19] yes. [09:19] you use sudo to become root instead of logging in as root. [09:19] it's the same thing, just a different method. [09:20] i know that i sound stubborn. but that's how i prefer to do things === cc [n=mohio@24-182-153-9.dhcp.sllv.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:20] i've done it in other distros and never had a problem [09:20] well, no-one's stopping you. [09:20] welcome back cc.. [09:20] ty [09:20] it takes one command to enable rot. [09:20] root* [09:20] yeah. and thanks for helpping me === StarKruzr [n=jtd@adsl-70-224-39-162.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:22] i would just love to know how to change file systems so i can reinstall windows [09:22] you mean re-partition? === ets [n=ets@car75-5-82-234-129-54.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Ubuntu === Mitja [n=Mitja@cpe2-25-116.cable.triera.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:23] you should be able to allot space for windows with gparted === desplesda [n=desplesd@58.164.219.163] has joined #ubuntu [09:24] !tell juchipilo about rootsudo === vbgunz [n=vbgunz@uslec-66-255-127-2.cust.uslec.net] has joined #ubuntu === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-52-188.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:24] juchipilo, you can see all sorts of stuff on that link the bot sent you [09:25] I have an interesting question. On Windows, when I had a folder I felt was top priority, I would prefix it with a !. When I did this, those folders would always sort to the top in alphabetical order... How do I do this on Ubuntu? === redguy|work [n=matik@acr94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu === torn33 [n=torn33@c-24-15-211-39.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] vbgunz, i suppose you could basically do the same thing on ubuntu. [09:26] put a 0 at the beginning? [09:26] yeah, something like that. === ets [n=ets@car75-5-82-234-129-54.fbx.proxad.net] has left #Ubuntu [] [09:27] just dont mess with important directories. [09:27] eobanb: unfortunately I cannot... I can prefix a folder with ! or @ but when folders are sorted in alphabetical order, those prefixes are ignored :( [09:27] <_jason> vbgunz, how about aaaaaa [09:27] lol [09:28] _jason: yeah, am doing that now, but don't like it... Maybe there is something else I can use? === Rawplayer [n=kevin@oom-killer.org] has joined #ubuntu === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-214.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:28] that didn't work === rakesh [n=rakesh@59.145.106.4] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [09:29] got to about the sync test... then it kicked me back to the command line [09:29] <_jason> vbgunz, how about the 0 that xspades suggested? [09:29] I rebooted and nothing [09:29] irssi says ( connection timed out ) [09:29] tried irc.eu.freenode.net [09:30] _jason: numbers and letters work... was just trying to use a symbol instead... It's a quirk I have :P === munzir [n=munzir@85.129.187.38] has joined #ubuntu [09:30] <_jason> vbgunz, ah [09:30] vbgunz: how about _ ? [09:30] what a freakin pain in the ass for this shit [09:30] well i think linux ignores symbol, like .icons will be same order as regular icons [09:30] redguy|work: I think I tried that... [09:30] just hidden [09:30] CaptainMorgan's xorg is broken? [09:30] why would it be/ [09:30] ? [09:30] I just upgraded to breezy.. [09:31] what the hell is cauzing the the bproblem? [09:31] oh, uh.....you just said something about 'got to the sync test then it kicked me back to the command line'? === insomnd [n=insomnd@CPE00055df621f8-CM000e5cdd83d2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] any way I can revert back to hoary [09:31] ? [09:31] i thought you meant that xorg wasnt working. [09:31] CaptainMorgan: what video board do you have? [09:31] its' cool... no biggie, I'll just use @0_ or something [09:31] hi. is there a way to set a desktop background left (instead of centred) in gnome? === haag_ [n=haag@190.48.43.31] has joined #ubuntu [09:32] well I got to, I forget, a list of numbers. 1 throuh 24... so much shit I forget what it was exactly, pic a sync or something.. I did and it kicked me [09:32] wOw [09:32] :D [09:32] video board? uhmm.. ati- something something [09:32] CaptainMorgan, dont do advanced, do medium [09:33] I did simple [09:33] hi sirs! I want to use adept so I logged as root and launched it. It said it would open as read only and I have to be root. On the terminal I see the message: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed [09:33] kapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem() [09:33] i first tried advanced, then I did simple [09:33] oh, 1-24, that would be colour depth then [09:33] what's wrong please? [09:33] adept? [09:33] adept? [09:33] does he mean apt-get [09:34] munzir: you didn't have to log in as root. [09:34] right, color depth sounds right.. I picked 24 and it kicked me [09:34] I tried again, and it kicked me a gain === ChairmanMeow [n=Chairman@c-67-161-254-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] eobanb: adept is a apt front-end forKDE [09:34] oh, good to know. [09:34] i dont use kde at all. [09:35] munzir, does kynaptic work? [09:35] omg.. what do I do about the gui??? [09:35] well what does /var/log/xorg.0.log say [09:35] er, Xorg.0.log [09:35] how do I know? I can't just cut and paste it to you [09:35] munzir: whaqt's wrong with running adept with your regular user? [09:36] !tell CaptainMorgan about pastebin === leagris [n=leagris_@meumeu.noiraude.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] pastebiN??? [09:36] on the command line? === howard [n=howard@ip68-105-129-165.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] huh? ubotu changed nick? === eso4 [n=eso4@39.Red-81-36-145.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-46-134.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] CaptainMorgan: hmmm, you could try it in lynx... [09:37] no, CaptainMorgan, pastebin is how users paste large chunks of text that would flood the channel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-179-31.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] omg, I know what pastebin is.. I can't use it at the command line if I can't open a browser! [09:37] !pastebin cli [09:37] omg [09:37] calm down.. [09:37] sorry, but I do 90 % of my work in Linux and now I can't access any of it.. [09:38] cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less [09:38] because of a freakin upgrade!? no loess [09:38] and look for lines that start with EE [09:38] CaptainMorgan, do you understand? [09:38] nno === shivy [n=shivy@5355C6E6.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] hya === takehiro [n=Takehiro@pool-71-104-102-147.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] what do I do when I find them ? [09:38] tell me what they say? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@68-118-56-21.dhcp.gnps.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:39] are you serious? how? [09:39] Im in Win [09:39] right now [09:39] oh, you're dual-booting? === ubuntu_ is now known as junka [09:39] ye [09:39] CaptainMorgan: look what grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log says [09:39] redguy - read above [09:39] okay, calm down please, i don't know what your setup is [09:39] CaptainMorgan: I see [09:39] do you have a second computer? [09:40] yes. but that's a PIA... [09:40] i guess it's my only choice ? [09:40] listen, if you can get onto IRC with another computer, then we can start fixing the problem [09:40] it would be easyer than reboot into windows all the time [09:40] until then, if you're going to refuse to boot into ubuntu then i cant do anything === xfree [n=nayif@84.22.224.12] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] if you dont have another computer, you can always write down what the log says and boot back into windows and type it [09:41] or you can try to get irssi to work [09:41] booting into ubuntu isn't the problem.. it's getting there.. .then the commands I recieve from helpful folks putting in an effort don't work and then it's only more time wasted... [09:41] is there somewhere i can get a collection of high quality ICONS? [09:41] irssi won't wonnet [09:41] CaptainMorgan: not really you, can try irssi or bitchx [09:41] eobanb, could he use links or something similar to put the log up? [09:41] well can anything else connect to the internet, CaptainMorgan [09:41] Im having some problems with my SCREEM, i cant save directly in /var/www .. could i make a link from my home dir to my var www . So That everythin I edit in for exmple /home/index.htm becomes directly seeable in /var/www ?? ??? [09:42] !ln [09:42] ln is a link. For a symbolic link, do: ln -s [09:43] im in the process of getting the other comp up an running... brb [09:43] ubotflu..so i need to do ' ln -s /home/user/index.htm /var/www ? [09:43] !ubotflu [09:43] insomnd: I haven't a clue [09:43] CaptainMorgan, you need to calm down and focus or walk away and focus later. Please, eobanb if being very patients and IF YOU COOPERATE can probably do sereral things to help. The calmer and more focused on actual problem -soving that you are... === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-115-140.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] from which side should i do that [09:44] or would either side work ? === dpro\\ [n=dpro@193.162.238.5] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] already moved on quack, but thanks.. please read above === quacker shuts up again === bach1 [n=bach1@39.Red-81-36-145.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:45] redguy|work, with normal user the same error message === ktogias [n=ktogias@athedsl-27007.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu [09:45] eobanb, I don't about kynaptic,,,,,,, let me check ... === Whity_ [n=whity@60-234-132-74.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === Talisker [n=shai@IGLD-84-228-79-127.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === [1] Captain [n=Captain@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-214.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:47] <[1] Captain> k.. in from the other comp... not bad as I thought... had to do some quick installs... main computer is rebooting to linux now... [09:48] Tis sounds good [09:49] err 'this...' === XandriX [n=Bleeding@unaffiliated/xandrix] has joined #ubuntu === ale3hs [n=ale3hs@cpc1-port4-5-0-cust38.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:49] redguy|work, eobanb: kynaptic still says I had to be root! === aya_ [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:51] munzir, yes, you have to use sudo [09:51] <[1] Captain> k.. [09:51] [4295248.920000] You need some storage available to be able to suspend. [09:51] ,how can i fix this ? [09:51] <[1] Captain> im in [09:51] hello, when I try to do MMS streaming with xmms, I get this -->Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libsmooth.so", Message: device: default [09:51] : and I cannot open mms links with xmms.. I checked in some forums but I could find a solution.. can anyone help? [09:51] Will someone here share in my joy? [09:51] <[1] Captain> now... what was that file you want to see ? [09:51] xfree, it sounds like you're running low on space. === Sonderblade [n=muh@213.131.147.169] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] E16 running on Xubuntu! Finally! [09:52] thundr, it says: Error: "/tmp/ksocket-munzir" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. [09:52] thundr, how can i know how mutch this 'suspend' need of space ? [09:53] how much space do you have on your drive? [09:53] <[1] Captain> uh... Xorg.0.log is pretty large.. what do you want to know [09:53] <[1] Captain> ? [09:53] thundr, /dev/hda7 5.5G 2.2G 3.1G 42% / [09:53] Xorg takes up at least 1cm2 I guess [09:53] thundr, iceauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/munzir/.ICEauthority [09:53] kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. === Jaymac [n=Jaymac@resnet-147853.resnet.bris.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:54] <[1] Captain> 1cm2 ? [09:54] <[1] Captain> what's that? === topyli [n=juha@dsl-hkigw3-fe23de00-139.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [09:55] sorry munzir , that was directed at xfree [09:55] <[1] Captain> nothing with (EE) [09:55] <[1] Captain> mostly (WW) or (II) === BlueDevil [n=mircea@81.196.151.21] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] thundr, ok I will try to figure it out then ! === rraajj [n=Schildkr@210.213.71.236] has joined #ubuntu [09:57] munzir, I'm sorry, it's too late and I can't even read the screen anymore. Try #kubuntu or #debian_ if there's no one here [09:58] thundr, thanks a lot for your nice help [09:58] munzir, sorry I couldn't help more. [09:58] munzir, but you're welcome === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D889.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:59] <[1] Captain> after running xserver- reconfig.. why at PLease select your desired default color depth in bits selction. I choose 24 and then it kicks me to the command line... why ? [10:00] <[1] Captain> sayz xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file... backup in ..... === peter_ [n=peter@220-253-102-90.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === [Sir_Garion] [i=carlos@porthos.dif.um.es] has joined #ubuntu === xspades [n=Lenny@69.9.185.116] has joined #ubuntu === freenik [n=nik@port-212-202-36-70.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu === _Gray_ [n=_Gray_@CPE-60-225-57-237.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] <[1] Captain> gray! [10:02] <[1] Captain> I neeed help amigo! [10:02] <[1] Captain> :) === cafuego [n=cafuego@ppp83-238.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu === lilo [i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] !test [10:03] Passed. [10:03] <[1] Captain> 617 users.. anyone here ? [10:03] is there a wish list for Ubuntu 5.10? === _Rappy_ [n=hunt-pre@dsl-253-122.monet.no] has joined #ubuntu === GTroy_ [n=galen@70-57-162-112.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] ardchoille, 5.10 is already released/ [10:03] ardchoille: it has been released, a wishlist would be useless. [10:03] well, yeah.. what was I thinking [10:04] ardchoille: You cna file wishlist bugs against any package at any time. [10:04] I guess I was thinking of a list of apps that people want to see in the next version === lucychili [n=jhawtin@202-136-105-152.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:04] ardchoille, you can find it in the wiki [10:04] how do I edit my /etc/fstab to mount my 2nd ext3 hard drive? anyone...anyone? [10:04] ardchoille: That's handled via 'popularity-contest' [10:05] universecandidates === weo1 [n=weo@p5499F142.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] for example [10:05] spacey, cafuego: thank [10:05] s === milksteak [n=milkstea@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === ardchoille thinks he should maybe be looking for a typing tutor === DelPede [n=peter@port22.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [10:06] <[1] Captain> hello ? === cafuego finishes downgrading to ubuntu i386 === UniXoiDe [n=cz@196.203.53.74] has joined #ubuntu [10:06] hi all [10:06] mogus up late o what [10:07] rappin the nine count on tookie williams [10:07] ok I made an index.html .. I put it in /var/www .. and still it doesnt show [10:07] merderous === etech [n=etech@213-140-19-127.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu === Digis [n=digis@193.219.137.203] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] Keeps on saying that I have no permission [10:08] shivy: Well then [10:08] GTroy_: Do, "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_bak" and then, "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and it'll open up in a text editor for you to edit. [10:08] I want install edubuntu in primery scool, but I have a broblem with goverment, how/where can I obtain licence of EDUBUNTU ? [10:08] UniXoiDe: Edubuntu is FREE. [10:08] UniXoiDe: no licenses are required. [10:08] license is FSF isn't it? [10:09] yep [10:09] Oh, you want a copy for the accountants to look at? ;-) [10:09] certificate to indicate that is free software [10:09] GNU/GPL [10:10] FSF means your students already have a license and you don't have to pay anyone at all ... the people who wrote it, wrote it for your students, no exceptions. [10:10] UniXoiDe: There is no such certificate; the boot screen states as muich, though. [10:10] the goverment impose some papers to process with that distro [10:10] UniXoiDe: And a copy of the GPL will be on the cd. [10:10] UniXoiDe: just download the GPL, print it... === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] hmm [10:11] I c [10:11] what's this government shite? [10:11] I mean rigamarolle? === Tallia1Kubuntu [n=andrea@cust-65-110-27-27.sfu-reznet.connectwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] i dont understand [10:12] can u explain to me plz [10:12] who's telling you that you can't run UBUNTU [10:12] ??? [10:13] ah, they impose that all products are on licence or certificate === rraajj [n=Schildkr@210.213.71.236] has left #ubuntu ["http://ardzeii.tripod.com"] [10:13] UniXoiDe: Print this: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html === Daedric [n=noneof@194.65.210.31] has joined #ubuntu [10:13] UniXoiDe: make a pretty certificate for it if you want to ;-) [10:13] <_Gray_> UniXoiDe: just give them a paper with the ubuntu website and tell em to look it up lol [10:13] There _IS_ a license ... it's the GPL or general public license, whic hI believe passes very strict legal standards and will easily satisfy your stooges needs. === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-214.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] I know, but hopes that the goverment understand that [10:14] shivy: Is your index.html document readable by the user under which apache runs? If not, do, "sudo chmod 644 /var/www/index.html" to make it so. [10:14] im in linux.. and on a second a computer... [10:14] we are still suffring with ms [10:14] any suggestions ? === mitey [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/mite] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] Xorg is huge [10:14] what is it you need ? [10:14] CaptainMorgan you mean Xorg is ENgorged? === vegiVamp [n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] ? [10:15] engorged?' [10:16] bad rum drinking bar joke, inappropriate, sorry. [10:16] I think the samba howto on the wiki is old... Seriously. I am trying to shares a directory with a Windows PC and am in trouble... Windows doesn't see it :( The part on the wiki I am stuck at is it is telling me to *tick enable Windows networking*... That option is not in the networking > general tab :( [10:16] I tried to reconfigure xserver ad it kicked me [10:17] How active is UBUNTU development? Is it just a consumer version of DEBIAN??? === Zdra [n=zdra@71-216.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] phil_: nope, Ubuntu development is very active indeed [10:18] help!? [10:18] CaptainMorgan are you drowning? [10:18] And lots of greate stuff are forwarded upstream to Debian [10:18] lllmanulll what do you mean by forwarded upstream? [10:19] yes [10:19] I am [10:19] I can't get linux's gui back [10:19] after upgrading to breezy [10:19] please, never get out of the boat. [10:19] wtf === mumbles [n=admin@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:19] run some SARGE release, quite a stable linux. === Mitja [n=Raw_Eate@cpe2-25-116.cable.triera.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] wtf [10:20] can't I revert back to hoary ??? [10:20] phil_: Well Debian --> Ubuntu is some kind of stream, isn't it ? :) [10:20] World Tranny Federation === ulle [n=ulle@dsl-hkigw7-fe10f900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] Yeah, but usually the splinters don't give much back to the original distro, huh? === mz2 [i=mz2@ZYYYMMDCCLXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] phil_: that is not quite true for ubuntu [10:22] how do I get x or gui back ? [10:22] redguy|work ... for example? Willing to listen, but? [10:22] how do I change from root to non-root user? [10:22] phil_: numerous example :) [10:22] CaptainMorgan, what's your hardware, weird or pretty serious? [10:23] phil_: lots of examples, google to find them :-) [10:23] ulle use exit in your console/shell/bash === CaptainMorgan orders phil to walk to walk the plank [10:23] so debian is better because of ubuntu? === dbzdeath [n=dbzdeath@203-166-234-160.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:24] phil_: We could say that, yeah :) [10:24] FInally I did it ... to own and make /var/www writable, ' chmod 775 www' and 'chown root.user www' [10:24] phil_: not sure that debian people agree in general [10:24] But of course a lot of work is done by Debian developers themselves, needless to say [10:24] I like ubuntu. I roll with it--I recommend it. But Debian, Debian is tip top. [10:24] :) [10:24] ubotflu tell phil_ about relationship [10:24] So is there some overlap of debian ubuntu development [10:24] CaptainMorgan: what were the EE messages in Xorg.0.log again ? [10:25] shivy: Did it work? [10:25] bimberi, am I not being cordial? [10:25] phil_: sure Debian is tip-top, but would you recommend it as a desktop system for people unfamilliar with linux? [10:25] red - there are no EE messages [10:25] yes [10:25] its writable from user now and seeable directly on the web === erik__ [n=erik@ip34-107-172-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] :) [10:26] shivy: Cool! Glad to hear it. [10:26] CaptainMorgan: so what is the last message? no screens found ? [10:26] phil_: ha, you're fine, just pointing you to some info on the ubuntu/debian relationship :) [10:26] well, I often think I can recommend it, and get about halfway there and realize, no ... I can't get my retirementage parent up on debian, no way. [10:26] !tell CaptainMorgan about nicktab [10:27] what's nicktab? Is that like trucker speed? [10:27] what's the purpose of nicktab ? [10:27] CaptainMorgan: so i'll know when you're writing to me [10:28] !tell phil_ about nicktab [10:28] :-) [10:28] uh, noob here, how does nicktab owrk? [10:28] CaptainMorgan: type redg in your IRC client and see what happens [10:28] phil_: ^^^ [10:29] bimberi, are you tring to ^ control me? [10:29] last message? last screen says - Fatal server error ..... commands to run... consult the X.org foundatoin..... [10:29] etc === angel2 [n=ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-1-240.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:29] redg [10:29] RedGhost, [10:29] phil_: that was my crappy way of saying that my last post could be of interest to you too :) [10:29] redgost?? === mirak [n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-68-243.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:30] sorry for noobescence, I'm very nooboliscious, just learning. [10:30] CaptainMorgan: if you keep hitting TAB, you should cycle thru all the nicks that start with the letters you've already typed === SOMNIVM [i=somnivm@ALyon-151-1-77-102.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:30] CaptainMorgan: try redgu :-) === agtnz [n=agt1@222-153-80-218.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [10:30] CaptainMorgan, Sheex that works, [10:30] phil_: it's fine [10:30] redgu [10:30] what?? [10:31] redguy|work, [10:31] naw CaptainMorgan tyupe tab button after a few letters. [10:31] CaptainMorgan: which IRC app are you using? [10:31] CaptainMorgan: hooray! [10:31] redgu [MUPPETS] Gonzo [10:31] This X-Chat client kicks. [10:31] im in win [10:31] Madpilot: 'CaptainMorgan: HydraIRC v0.3.151' [10:31] :/ [10:31] hydra [10:31] at leas it's not mirc [10:32] in linux I use xchat.. but, I CAN'T USE LINUX [10:32] CaptainMorgan, ubuntu will load pretty nicely off a CDR. [10:32] yea, and erase all my work [10:33] ok so how I get the root user status back on+ [10:33] CaptainMorgan: now that's an idea: boot of a ubuntu live cd [10:33] Chief, get one of those free hard disk utilities, and make a 4 gig partition, you'll be up and running. === thefish [n=thefish@unaffiliated/thefish] has joined #ubuntu === Nerened [n=Nerened@c-24-21-184-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Jaymac hates Logitech [10:33] what will that accomplish redguy ? [10:33] ill lose my work [10:33] redguy|work, it's not live it's an installer. [10:33] CaptainMorgan: and then you can access your logfiles and use pastebin === agtnz [n=agt1@222-153-80-218.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [10:33] phil_: there's a live cd as well [10:34] you can use the live cd to try out ubuntu apps before installing [10:34] redguy|work, sounds like a nice way to go, and no disk erasure/ [10:34] wtf! [10:34] CaptainMorgan: I don't mean installing ubuntu === zh [n=zh@218.247.206.229] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] I don't want to TRY THEM OUT [10:34] no disk erasure [10:34] I want my gui back [10:34] CaptainMorgan: just boot from a live cd, any will do [10:34] why? [10:34] CaptainMorgan, this stuff works, I recommend it, I used the suse over two years agao and I never lost anything. === sh4d0w [n=fog@ppp37-adsl-62.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] CaptainMorgan: people are trying to help you - the suggestion was to use the live cd to look at the log files [10:35] always handy to have aKNOPPIX cd lying around [10:35] CaptainMorgan: to paste your Xorg.0.log so that we can see what is wrong with your xserver [10:35] CaptainMorgan, I think there is someone here who can solve your problems. [10:35] alright, ill try the live cd... [10:35] ok so how I get the root user status back on? [10:35] i lose any work, Im dead... [10:36] why do you want to? [10:36] ulle: use sudo === tOta [n=tota@80.71.149.39] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] cap a live CD doesn't install anything, so your hard drive is safe === CuriousCat [n=CuriousC@203.177.88.26] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:36] CaptainMorgan, can you power down and put another hard drive in the machine to futz around with? === mattsm [n=mattsm@cpe-70-112-34-78.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] can you not backup your data from a terminal? === fh_ [n=fh@221.11.5.187] has joined #ubuntu [10:37] CaptainMorgan: *don't install anything*, be sure to use the live cd not the install cd [10:37] I haven't read enough of this conv === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [10:37] live cd is an OS on a disk, won't scrap with you Hard disks [10:37] Jaymac: he upgraded to breezy and got his xorg borked [10:38] CaptainMorgan: before you leave, can you tell us how did you upgrade to breezy? [10:38] happened to me.. was an fglrx issue with my X800XL === vbgunz [n=vbgunz@uslec-66-255-127-2.cust.uslec.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:38] redguy... apt-get distr-upgrade [10:38] Jaymac, is there a developer IRC that CaptainMorgan can get on to get some serious throw down? [10:38] Jaymac: yay!, he's got an ati [10:38] CAptainMorgan.. what's your card? === GTroy [n=galen@70-57-162-112.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] ati === entius [n=entius@240.Red-80-25-99.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] k, Live is running [10:39] or starting up [10:39] can anybody here connect to the following site with Firefox 1.0.7 on Breezy? http://gnome-look.org [10:39] CaptainMorgan: uhm, and before that? what did you put in your sources.list ? [10:39] CaptainMorgan, your Darned FASt. === dakeeper56 [n=chatzill@219.89.212.163] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] Gooden nockt/ [10:40] ok I need to edit /etc/fstab to auto mount my 2nd hard drive.. [10:40] is http://gnome-look.org down? [10:40] I doubt his issue is the same as mine.. unless he gets this output: [10:40] ""Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem? Yes No"" [10:40] hi === heatxsink [n=jmioph@c-24-7-127-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:40] not sure red... i put something there, then another Guru told me to # it out...my main goal was to get wifi working... I figured what the hell and wanted to upgrade to 5.10 because it has the latest wifi drier which i needed [10:41] vbgunz, looks like it is. [10:41] phil_: it is down? [10:41] what command activates a jar file === olicat [n=phendric@host81-138-210-156.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] phil_: :( [10:41] I love that site... [10:41] vbgunz: can't access from here either [10:41] vbgunz, can't get into it ..l otherwise no systems expertise to tell you honestly. [10:41] where [10:42] what is it [10:42] where i am [10:42] phil_: thats cool... I thought firefox was acting up on me... I had a similar problem with another site just a few minutes ago... maybe the Internet is crashing :P [10:42] bimberi: thanks for confirming that :) [10:42] CaptainMorgan: ok, can you paste your sources.list and Xorg.0.log to pastebin now please ? [10:42] Uh, I'm on firefox too, so maybe so cyber collision of time continuum. [10:42] working on it... === Tartaros [n=icechat5@r4al191.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu === Zdra [n=zdra@71-216.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:43] vbgunz: np :) === void^ [i=void@p549E01F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:43] can anyone help me with /etc/fstab [10:43] bimberi: :) [10:43] Can try [10:43] what's the craic? [10:43] trying to mount windows hd or what? [10:43] GTroy: no, at lest not untill you will ask your question [10:43] hehe [10:43] sorry [10:44] Hi I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 on Asus W3H00A and when i enter the graphics mode i just get like a bunch of vertical stripes can any one help me? [10:44] uhm ext3 [10:44] no home folder [10:44] dakeeper56: why not 5.10 ? === pldn [n=pldn@ppp-70-246-211-159.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:44] no partitions on it [10:44] dont have it at moment [10:44] hmm... does ubuntu have a facility for setting default ls options? [10:44] GTroy: can you ask it as a question, in a sentence please? it's hard to read otherwise [10:44] how do I set /etc/fstab to auto mount my 2nd hard drive [10:45] OK [10:45] create a new folder [10:45] pldn: how about editing ~/.basrc and/or ~/.bash_profile ? [10:45] done [10:45] in /media, or /mnt [10:45] or whereever [10:45] it's in /mnt [10:45] i can't get online with the live cd... [10:45] ok [10:45] ext3.. [10:45] 2 secs [10:45] huh ? [10:45] redguy|work: hrmm, i think i should rephrase. It seems that on a default ubuntu install, the default ordering in an ls doesnt sort by directories, which is driving me nuts :) [10:46] pldn: look for the 'alias ls' in ~/.bashrc [10:46] bimberi: im using tcsh, and there are no aliases ;) === GTroy lilo works on freenode :D [10:46] :D [10:46] i was just wondering if ubuntu had a control file buried in /etc/ somewhere that had settings for that [10:46] /dev/hd1 (or whatever) /mnt/mountfolder ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0 1 [10:46] pldn: well that's me stymied then :) [10:47] that is my output [10:47] ok cool [10:47] pldn: hmmmm, not sure that this can be done without aliases... and yes, I don't know anything about ycsh [10:47] nothing looks at like my setup [10:47] just change the hd to point to the right drive, and same for /mnt/folder [10:47] redguy|work how would the Xorg file be same under the live cd as it was with my previous state ? [10:47] redguy: well, ls on every other *nix ive used for the last 10 years (including stock debian) always sorts by directories first... this is quite odd [10:47] Jaymac: you really don't need all those mount options [10:47] redguy I can't get online either [10:47] I know.. that was the default.. didnt think i needed to cull them [10:48] CaptainMorgan: did yo [10:48] CaptainMorgan: darn did you [10:48] friggin mac keyboard! === we0 [n=weo@p5499F8DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] GTroy, you can do it from terminal too... something like: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/newdrive/ === tuskernini [n=chris@80-219-156-216.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] CaptainMorgan: what I meant you to do is to boot the live cd on the box you have problems with. then you could access the hard drive and the log files === bimberi salutes ajmitch for a fantastic effort the other day and wonders how many lectures have ever been delivered at 6am on a Sunday :P [10:50] CaptainMorgan: and paste them to pastebin [10:50] bimberi: haha === fh_ [n=fh@221.11.5.187] has joined #ubuntu === egytrack [n=egytrack@196.204.154.16] has joined #ubuntu [10:50] hi there all === sean [n=sean@c-24-21-241-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:50] ajmitch: 3am here :( [10:50] redguy, Im not an idiot.. I did boot the live cd on the problem computer.. I can't access any files.. nor can I get online [10:50] hope you are having a better morning than i am [10:50] jaymac: i know I've done that [10:50] bimberi: sorry I couldn't do it at a better time [10:50] just wanted it to be automatic [10:50] anyone a apache2 guru? === lilo [i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] whats up tusker? [10:51] hey lilo! === ol1 [n=liloi@S01060004e2599947.pk.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] ajmitch: no apology please - i reckon you maximised your audience :) === heatxsink_ [n=jmioph@c-24-7-127-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] so, got it working GTroy? === GTroy is off to reboot [10:51] good man [10:51] hold on I'll find out [10:51] i have something wrong when i try to delete cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder. that folder is trash i try empty trash [10:51] I must use SDL. What should I #include? === sean [n=sean@c-24-21-241-156.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:52] could not empty trash don't know why [10:52] how do i back up my files... to a cd.. at the commmand line... fuck this, Im going to reinstall hoary this is way too much freakin work for a freakin upgrad [10:52] Does anyone have experience installing firefox in ubuntu? [10:52] pldn, i set u a server and everything worked well until i installed ubuntu un my second hd aswell... now i can not get into my /var/www dir from a browser using my ip adress? [10:52] jaymac: mount point 1 does not exist [10:52] sean: firefox should be on there already, or easily apt-gettable. Do you mean compiling it? [10:52] sean: FF1.5? [10:52] 1.5 [10:52] you've definitely got the locaton of your hard drive right? [10:52] !firefox15 [10:52] somebody said firefox15 was see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org [10:53] I thought.... [10:53] tusker: sounds like a pathing problem... just make sure that apache is still looking in the right place [10:53] I tried it, and now firefox won't work at all [10:53] how do I backup my files to cd ? [10:53] you mean port 80? [10:53] or at 127.0.0.1 === BeTa [n=beta@e-glop.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:53] tusker: no i mean on your filesystem === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu [10:54] make sure that the files still exist in /var/www or whever your DocumentRoot is [10:54] jaymac: it worked despite the error message [10:54] yeah.. good stuff [10:54] very cool many thanks [10:54] (please dont privmesg me) [10:54] I get an error like that whenever I put a dvd in [10:54] ok cool [10:54] mount point /media/hdc does not exist [10:54] redguy!? [10:54] but the dvd still plays [10:54] yep [10:54] haven't figured that one out yet ;0 [10:54] :)* [10:54] can read all my files [10:54] also, make sure that your apache service is still running [10:54] pldn, ok... the files do exsist... if i type localhost in the browser bar.. it works [10:54] Great [10:55] I extracted the kubuntu iso image and copied it to an ext3 partition. how can I install from that without burning the cd? [10:55] thanks! [10:55] tusker: okay... whats the problem then? [10:55] No problem [10:55] it is still running... checked === cafuego [n=cafuego_@ppp83-238.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:55] localhost... workes...but if i type the IP address.. it does not work... === stephank [n=stephank@ip503dc86f.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush3@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] I have a question.... my ntfs drives read fine, but in boot, it says that mounting local drives failed.... is there any real problem there? [10:56] 80.219.156.216 is my ip... [10:56] for now... its not static [10:56] !test [10:56] Failed. === alan_ [n=alan@211.151.95.157] has joined #ubuntu === volle [n=volle@p5481F3EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === Zdra [n=zdra@71-216.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] but i use no-ip to reroot it [10:56] tusker: issue `netstat -nl | grep 80` === _-elektron_libre [n=_-22H31@147.127.160.10] has joined #ubuntu [10:57] is it listening on 0.0.0.0:* ? [10:57] how i can delete file without send it to trash [10:57] err sorry :80 [10:57] rm -r === eduard [n=eduard@86.125.51.113] has joined #ubuntu === volle [n=volle@p5481F3EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu ["...] [10:57] sudo rm filename === alan_ [n=alan@211.151.95.157] has joined #ubuntu [10:57] egytrack: Right click the file, select 'Delete'. [10:57] or sudo rm -r folder [10:57] egytrack: delete anything from the console using rm, or configure gnome to accept a delete that bypasses the trash [10:58] tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN === xfree [n=nayif@86.60.29.48] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] and lots of unix 2 acc stream listening [10:58] cafuego , right click there is no delete [10:58] tusker: okay issue `ifconfig -a | grep inet` [10:58] how do I burn to cd from the command line ?? [10:58] is the ip you are trying to hit listed in there? [10:59] inet addr:192.168.1.4 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [10:59] inet6 addr: fe80::250:daff:fee0:6e0d/64 Scope:Link [10:59] inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 [10:59] inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host [10:59] ? [10:59] tuskernini: please, don't paste it in here [10:59] sean: do you mean from a server install? [10:59] ok sorry [10:59] theres your problem [10:59] ok im istning? === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D2F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:59] nope [11:00] pldn , could not delete with this way [11:00] i need to delete folder [11:00] sudo rm -r folder [11:00] rm -rf my/silly/folder [11:00] how do I burn to cd from the command line ?? [11:00] how do I burn to cd from the command line ?? [11:00] pldn, so how do i fix it? [11:01] tusker: if that ip you are trying to hit is bound to a router, make sure you have a passthru setup to the box you are trying to serve from [11:01] yes done [11:01] thanks :) [11:01] :) === namola [n=namola@58.142.100.13] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] tusker: well, bind that ip to an inet4 interface [11:01] i have a router... [11:01] okay [11:01] you need to configure your router to passthru traffic on port 80 (tcp) to your box [11:02] ok.. i rememer i did it once... but what could have changed it? [11:02] but unless you are running an ipv6 network, you need to get an inet4 address assigned to one of your ethernet devices === Vindevogel [n=ubuntu@d5152B3BA.access.telenet.be] has joined #Ubuntu [11:02] CaptainMorgan, cdrecord [11:02] tusker: you probably dont have a ip address on that box... that output you pasted at least suggested that [11:02] help [11:02] that's it? [11:02] CaptainMorgan: google is your friend.... use it [11:02] cdrecord ? [11:03] Hi, I have a remote server at an ISP, default with a minimum of packages. I want to install OpenOffice on it to run some macros (conversions). OOo needs a display, so I installed Xorg, but I still can't connect to it. [11:03] What packages do I need to install to run an X11 session ? === DuoMaxwell [n=DuoMaxwe@nwblwi2-l10-811.nwblwi.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:03] google is not my friend right now [11:03] Vindevogel: how are you connecting? [11:03] CaptainMorgan, it is the command line for burning CD's. tkae a look at cdrecord --help and man cdrecord [11:03] thefish: ssh [11:04] Vindevogel: use ssh -X [11:04] Hello, anyone here versed in Ubuntu for PPC? === Astxist [n=komugiub@ppp2C9A.dyn.pacific.net.au] has joined #Ubuntu [11:04] Vindevogel: or you could use sshfs, then do the conversion locally === Ryle [n=Ryle@idefix.univ-lemans.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] CaptainMorgan: cdrecord === Eghie_Work [n=Eghie@ip51cffcc4.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] thefish: ssh -X -l root .... does not make a difference, still in shell mode [11:05] when I'm at the machine, i can't do a "startx" [11:06] the command does not exist === ColonelKernel [i=ponnet@12-218-155-108.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:06] CaptainMorgan $ > info cdrecord [11:06] Vindevogel: dont use that! hehe === namola [n=namola@58.142.100.13] has joined #ubuntu [11:06] can i delete all files on tmp folder ? [11:06] Vindevogel: just start writer [11:06] thefish: i cant: "can't connect to display ...." [11:06] all files and folders in tmp folder [11:06] Can someone please tell me how I can get my iBook late 2001 to see any ubuntu install CD? [11:06] and you used ssh -X user@host to connect? === TiffOn [i=TiffOn@218.Red-217-126-197.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:07] hase anyone install the systemcall.pl for Xchat? [11:07] I can mount them on th desktop, but I can't get the damn thing to see it as a boot device === jorge__ [n=jorge@201-27-200-252.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [11:08] have a problem which says about xmms: Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC === kerosin_ [n=kerosin@dslb-084-058-211-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:08] DuoMaxwell: You haven't done what I once did and copied the iso to the disc rather than burned it? That one made me go a bit red :O [11:09] CaptainMorgan: apt-get install cdrecord [11:09] I have no experience with PPC so no clue [11:09] thefish: yes, with the -X option [11:09] I've tried an official CD from ShipIt of 5.04 and the new version I just DLed [11:09] how do I move files without copying and deleting? [11:09] ah === mode/#ubuntu [-o ajmitch] by ajmitch [11:09] right [11:09] ol1 use mv === topyli [n=juha@ktlpc219.edu.helsinki.fi] has joined #ubuntu [11:09] Jaymac: Not that new lol === hyphenated [n=caleb@210-86-92-65.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] is it ok to delete files and folders in /tmp/ folder ??? === samu2 [n=sam@svamppi.sby.abo.fi] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] any idea about that xmms perl module? [11:10] Duo: I have been using Linux for 4/5 years, and I managed to do that once recently :D [11:10] thefish: how do i start an x11 session in the background to connect to ? maybe connect through vnc ? === defiance1 [n=jtang@adsl-ornas-249.bitnet.nu] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] triple5, i thought you said it was an xchat module? [11:10] Jaymac: I tried the startup disk prefs, the holding of command C on boot and holding alt on boot to bring up the list of bootable devices [11:10] which is it? [11:10] really - can anyone help me with a harddrive install? I used lilo as per instructions in the manual, booted just fine but then the installer still wanted to copy files from the CDROM -- no chance to copy from a location [11:11] tried a live CD? === roberto [n=roberto@monrsr03.monrdc.broadband.hu] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] Jaymac, I always use toast [11:11] to see if it'll pick that up? [11:11] yeah it is the xchat module for systemcall but it needs some kind of xmms module in perl... === osfamero1 is now known as osfameron === tOta [n=tota@80.71.149.39] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:11] Jaymac: yes, the 5.04 live CD, but it ceased every time halfway through boot [11:11] Jaymac... [11:12] Vindevogel: what runlevel is the remote running in? [11:12] i guess its 3 [11:12] may want to change to 5, but im not sure if that will help [11:13] Duo, has google returned anything interesting? === Sonderblade [n=muh@213.131.147.169] has joined #ubuntu [11:13] ;] [11:13] Jaymac: I've tested a few linuxs in the last few months, but I still know nothing of it, but I have managed to boot Linspire 5-0 live CD in VirtualPC [11:13] take drugs;] [11:13] I think 3, which is the default for servers, i guess. I don't want to change it to 5 because I'm not sure yet if my X starts [11:14] Jaymac: nothing I can make out. I get lost fast in the command line since I haven't used one in like 6+ years [11:14] Jaymac: and that was DOS [11:14] heh === Jaymac vomits [11:14] is here a (service) bot? [11:15] too much cider last night ;) === melonipoika [n=jose@dsl-lhtgw1-fe7adf00-124.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] Duo, sorry, I've not had a mac since 1990.. [11:15] DuoMaxwell: learn the commandline is powerful... use info etc. [11:15] cdrecord wht? === bubuntu [n=ganja@85.59.74.205] has joined #ubuntu === bubuntu [n=ganja@85.59.74.205] has left #ubuntu ["progreso] === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] hi melonipoika, did you get to your problem? [11:15] hi triple5 === Mazoku [n=Mazoku@212.46.20.17] has joined #ubuntu === bungle [n=bungle@user-1025.lns1-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] hi [11:16] yes, reinstallin :D i was bored yesterday and i had security copy of my data, so i went ahead :D [11:16] ... [11:16] has anyone got the systemcall.pl module for Xchat working? [11:16] by the way, i wanted to ask how can i do a security copy of my configuration before doing any change with synaptic? [11:17] I know the only way I'ma learn anything is if it's the only way to do it, and while theres the Darwin BSD command line in OS X it's not gonna help me learn anything with all of my OS X apps === einPaule [n=paul@dslb-084-061-051-141.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] !backup [11:17] triple5: Did you get hit by a windmill? [11:17] how do i use cdrecord ? [11:17] man cdrecord [11:17] sorry ubotu... [11:17] cdrecod [11:18] ? man sux [11:18] !security [11:18] triple5: I give up, what is it? [11:18] i can't make sense of the man [11:18] cdrecord --help [11:18] rightnow [11:18] i'd imagine it's cdrecord -filename/foldername? [11:18] tried that [11:18] isn't it any "restore system" option? [11:18] melon I wish [11:19] so I tried cdrecord filename but nothing === jeromenz [n=jerome@219-89-128-115.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [11:19] wtf === flohwer [n=flohwer@dslb-084-057-065-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:19] for two days straight... all this freakin trouble for a freakin upgrade... screw that [11:19] Vindevogel: check out ubuntu lite [11:20] so, my problem... i want to update to firefox 1.5. I have done before that changing "breezy" by "dapper" in source.list, i can update it. But the last time i did i had a problem with synaptic after that. So is better not to use this "way" of doing things? [11:20] ol1: what is ubuntu lite ? [11:20] i think he means ubuntu live [11:20] ? [11:21] oh no he doesnt [11:21] melonipoika, you don't need to update by synaptic, just use the firefox update [11:21] holy new website batman [11:21] http://www.ubuntulite.org/ [11:21] interesting === lavender_girl [n=LaVenDer@202.150.36.28] has joined #ubuntu [11:21] triple5, how? [11:21] Duo, might be worth a shot [11:22] what are the specs of your imac? [11:22] melonipoika go to getfirefox.com [11:22] haiiiiiiiiiii [11:22] hi girl [11:22] thanks [11:22] ^^ [11:22] Jaymac: exactly what I was thinking lol [11:22] ol1: how will ubuntulite help me with the problem ? [11:22] how do I find out the scsibus, target and lun of my cddrive ? [11:22] melonipoika it isn't that difficult, there is a firefox installer that does all that you need... [11:22] A girl in a geeky thing like IRC? [11:22] Firefox 1.5: http://www.ubuntulite.org/ [11:22] oops [11:23] you're pullin' me === rabidsnail [n=macos@pool-151-197-230-51.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:23] ehmm...actually i'm new here [11:23] melonipoika.... http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/ [11:23] heiii [11:23] help [11:23] is there anyone who wants 2 chat with me? [11:23] ok, i'm downloading a ta.bz file now [11:23] help [11:23] help [11:23] help [11:23] help [11:23] help [11:23] lavender girl: a joke [11:23] help [11:24] Cap'n.. don't flood [11:24] Jaymac, thanks [11:24] np [11:24] worked like a charm for me [11:24] Capin' quit drinkin' [11:24] well, Im drowning === nerdy2 [n=jeff@adsl-68-22-193-155.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] i have a dead machine here [11:24] heiiiiiiiiiiiiiii === _TomB [n=ownthebo@ACD84FCE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:25] CaptainMorgan [11:25] can u hear meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [11:25] CApn [11:25] cawawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [11:25] Dammit, this lite version is for x86 [11:25] wawawawa [11:25] asdjaskd [11:25] sadkas [11:25] dfkasd [11:25] fkas [11:25] dfkasd [11:25] here's a solution [11:25] fkasdkf [11:25] kdsa [11:25] !ops [11:25] Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth [11:25] fks [11:25] how much data you got? [11:25] akdf [11:25] askdf [11:25] that you need to save? [11:25] askdf [11:25] lavender_girl, get off it [11:25] aksf [11:25] kasddfkas [11:26] fkas [11:26] dkfd [11:26] lavendergirl HUSH [11:26] askfa [11:26] you will just get a ban... [11:26] sdkfdask [11:26] fksdfkas[kf[pdskf[sadkf [11:26] [pksadf[ask [11:26] fdpkas [11:26] [fdkas [11:26] dfks [11:26] af[ [11:26] lavender_girl please don't flood [11:26] sa === mode/#ubuntu [+o fabbione] by ChanServ [11:26] hehe.... [11:26] get the (_)*&N lavender_girl out of here === mode/#ubuntu [+b *!n=LaVenDer@202.150.36.28] by fabbione === lavender_girl was kicked off #ubuntu by fabbione (fabbione) [11:26] there we go [11:26] thanks fabbione [11:26] cheers [11:26] perfect [11:27] no problem === mode/#ubuntu [-o fabbione] by fabbione [11:27] DuoMax.. try YDL [11:27] It's ppc linux [11:27] Jaymac, I thought you had to pay for that one [11:27] i was pretty sure there was a dl [11:27] hang on === linuxaddicts [n=linuxadd@59.92.150.125] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] anyone with the systemcall.pl or a similar script that is working? === LegoManiac [n=lego@c-71-198-44-81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] triple5 ? [11:28] Jaymac, I know theres quite a few PPC linuxs now, I saw a list not to long ago [11:28] Hello Ubuntus [11:28] ye [11:28] Ah crap, it would seem you do have to [11:28] Captn [11:28] Ubuntu *should* work [11:29] what is your spec? === ldy [n=ldy@202.108.130.138] has joined #ubuntu [11:29] anyone here have experience doing a no-media drive (network based) install? === triple5 thinks CaiptainMorgan was talking with him === CaptainMorgan jumps ship.. leaves it to drown [11:30] iBook late 2001, the snow model http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=ibook_late_2001&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC === cge [n=cge@DHCP-6-114.caltech.edu] has joined #ubuntu === linuxaddicts [n=linuxadd@59.92.150.125] has left #ubuntu [] === L|nu}{ [n=linux@studpc32.thndorm.htu.se] has joined #ubuntu === triple5 prays for CaptainMorgan: hope you find a peace of wood to hold on to... [11:31] net install seems to set the wrong DNS in resolv.conf, where does it pull this from during install? I dont see a prompt [11:31] Jayman: with a few replacement parts, new HD and the burner of the opaqe iBooks where used via warranty repair [11:32] LegoManiac, what is the wrong DNS? [11:32] Vindevogel: can you use aptitude? [11:32] how do i cdrecord directories? it's give me :Is a directory, read error on input file [11:32] and kicks back to % [11:32] i don't see why it wont work [11:32] Jayman: it may not be stock but it's not non apple, it's got 640Mb ram 30Gb internal and a 250Gb fiwire external [11:32] there should be enough juice there [11:33] It sets it to 68.x.x.x, not anywhere near my netblock....not sure where it's getting this IP from [11:33] CaptainMorgan: maybe try -r flag to recurse into dir? [11:33] capn morgan try cdrcord directory/* [11:33] Jayman, yeah, it's on par with like a P4 1.2ish system with the same everything else [11:33] this causing it to fail package installation (stage 2), since it can't find apt sources [11:34] Vindevogel: how many files do you want to convert, and what is the conversion from/to?? [11:34] no [11:34] wont' work [11:34] which one? [11:34] "/* and -r" [11:35] output? [11:35] same? [11:35] bad option -r [11:35] CaptainMorgan: is there a config file for cdrecord I get output from --usage that says: cdrecord file1...filen === LegoManiac wishes Ubuntu used anaconda-kickstart [11:35] Duo.. I really dont know what the problem is [11:35] "/* attempts to write.... but then stops... === etech [n=etech@213-140-19-127.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu === |mp| [n=mp@82.153.240.58] has joined #ubuntu [11:36] with /* it's error is "is a directory, read error on input file [11:36] try dir/*. [11:36] Vindevogel: if you read abuot it, you might get some tips about how to install packages the hard way to get your xserver running [11:36] sorry [11:36] dir*.* [11:37] in case its trying to write directories inside that one? === ktogias [n=ktogias@athedsl-25074.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu [11:37] directory/*.* [11:37] bah kb playing up === contradictoryben [n=contradi@82.153.190.153] has joined #ubuntu === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu === mirak [n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-60-195.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] hm... dir/*.* seems to be working... I think it's checking tracks right now... [11:38] Jaymac: no prob man, I'll try some other stuff, maybe that homwbre of slackware for Macs Slackintosh will boot this thing [11:38] thanks Jaymac [11:38] np [11:38] Vindevogel: you'll need xserver-xorg, xserver-common, etc. etc. === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-179-31.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] posiby [11:38] if you find a distro that works. drop in and let me know :) [11:38] or ifyou figure it out i'd love to know too [11:39] Heh, I will try and keep you posted [11:39] CApn.. for future reference for myself... what was the exact command you typed in? [11:39] cdrecord -directory/*.* [11:39] lavender_girl: have you tried the voodoo lounge???? [11:39] if all else fails I am saving up for a new powermac, maybe I'll orderone with YDL preinstalled === john_351 [n=john@dialup-87.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:40] Duo, ubuntu will run on one do not fear === [caminante] [n=caminant@VA1-1D-u-0566.mc.onolab.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:40] I checked the cd.. nothing was written to it [11:40] :) [11:40] dir/*.* only checked tracks.. [11:40] oh [11:40] "cdrecord dir/*.*" === Yvonne [n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] maybe [11:41] is there a write flag? [11:41] like cdrecord -w dir/*.* [11:41] CaptainMorgan: what your looking for is called a "front end" for cdrecord - to get off the command line. if you have gnome you can try gnomebaker [11:41] or something? [11:41] oli, he has no X [11:41] ol1* [11:42] Jaymac: I haven't tried Kubuntu, I wonder if it may work, but I think I heard that KDE doesn't handle older systems to good [11:42] I read: Mkisofs turns a directory structure on your filesystem into the ISO9660 filesystem for CDs. [11:42] if ubuntu doesnt work i would fall off my stool if kubuntu does [11:42] Jaymac: i had to do that because I couldn't stat any packages from the internet repositories. [11:42] Jayman: and an ATI Rage 8Mb is pretty damn weak in the graphics department === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084FC3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:43] haha [11:43] DuoMaxwell: are you using gnome? [11:43] omg [11:43] work? [11:43] I am so screwed [11:43] why === andy108 [n=andy108@82-44-98-94.cable.ubr04.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:43] duomaxwell have you tried openbox or fluxbox [11:43] oll, I'm on a Mac, so no, I'm using aqua === netventure [n=netventu@202.153.42.172] has joined #ubuntu [11:43] uhm.. because I ahve so much on there that i can't access...? === wildman [n=fabman@54-200-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu [11:43] can't get X back, can't burn to cd [11:43] hi all [11:44] duomaxwell also for old sys with limited resources daminsmalllinux is good choice too [11:44] wtf am I to do? [11:44] stick a hard drive in, mount it, copy everything across [11:44] beside a clean install [11:44] ? [11:44] not that easy [11:44] hello * === camerling [n=camerlin@ANantes-256-1-19-21.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:44] what is the problem with X anyway, I came in too late [11:44] I upgrade to breezy... since, X won't work [11:44] yeah === asolten [n=asolten@shop3.diku.dk] has joined #ubuntu [11:44] do you get any output from X? === senectus [n=senectus@203.161.68.42] has joined #ubuntu [11:45] or do you just get dumped at the terminal [11:45] ilba7r: yes, I know all about DSL, I tried it on an old 486, but thats x8, I'm trying to use PPC here [11:45] no.... just command line [11:45] yes - terminal [11:45] want to know how to keep wireless icon from dissappering from network panel, everytime I log in must do modprobe and enable wireless properties [11:45] ok, and if you type startx.. what happens === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu [11:45] is anybody use asterisk pbx under ubuntu ? [11:45] ok [11:45] fatal IO error 104 [11:45] connection reset by peer [11:45] on X server [11:45] 0.0 [11:46] ok [11:46] finally: CaptainMorgan: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-2.html found this === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [11:46] I got a similar error [11:46] is "Add Applications" util just synaptic renamed? [11:46] where does evolution keep all it's profile settings and mail.box ?? === mumbles is now known as mumbles-work [11:46] no lego [11:46] it's simplified synaptic pretty much lego.. but it isnt synaptic === liable [n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable] has joined #ubuntu [11:47] "Add Applications" then is some sort of package bundle manager? === donza [n=donza@62.231.57.251] has joined #ubuntu === vegiVamp [n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu === wolverian [n=wolv@feather.perl6.nl] has left #ubuntu [] [11:48] CaptainMorgan, I have something you could try [11:48] all ears [11:48] it's a graphics thing === odat [n=systemax@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:48] do you have the fglrx driver for your ati? [11:48] where do you change the sensible-browser ? [11:48] What is the correct way to install emacs under ubuntu ?? I Can't find it in Synaptic. [11:49] samu2: update-alternatives perhaps ? === jmspeex [n=jmspeex@142.163.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:49] no [11:49] ok [11:49] sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx [11:49] hi everyone === pc22 [n=buknoy@58.69.7.29] has joined #ubuntu [11:49] sorry for the newbie questions, first look at ubuntu here [11:50] has anyone gotten gstreamer and totem to play windows streaming media? [11:50] duomaxwell just curious you have mac right so why switch to linux [11:50] odat: use vlc-mozilla [11:50] cant find w32codec === Brendon [n=Brendon@c-66-176-112-43.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:50] LegoManiac, won't vlc overide gstreamer? [11:50] pc22.. check the ubuntu forums [11:51] i did wiki [11:51] ilba7r: nothing else better to do for one and 2, I kinda blew up the P4 [11:51] you can get it from ubuntu plf [11:51] odat: ya, i think it uses xine [11:51] but its not work [11:51] repositories [11:51] pc22, go to apt-get.org and do a search for w32 and add the repository to synaptic [11:51] does QT use embolden? === alindeman [i=adml@freenode/staff/gallery.alindeman] has joined #ubuntu [11:51] thanks [11:52] LegoManiac, i am trying to keep gstreamer since everything points to gstreamer becoming the standard [11:52] same friggin output - "This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the J2sdk doc. You will need to go the download onr of the archives at
choose verison, Please visit
now and download copy to /tmp. press return to try again. "no" an return to abort [11:52] duomaxwell ok for my next question for i am still weighing the cons and pros of pc with linux on it or a mac. how do you compare both. [11:52] I try return and it does nothing. === telemaco [n=telemaco@84.77.33.31] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] I can't visit the sites well, because I can't access a browser [11:52] odat: I used mplayer [11:52] odat: i had problems viewing gamespot's site, had to install totem-xine and vlc-mozilla, after taht all the web stuff worked flawless [11:53] Hi all... What is the correct way to install emacs under ubuntu ?? I Can't find it in Synaptic. [11:53] ilba7r: 3rd would be that I can't always switch ppl to Macs, so I figured learn linux, Ubuntu and Linspire whenever I get the PC going again so I can support their switching [11:53] Vindevogel: if you are just converting docs, I would not recommend installing OOo, just a script, there are many available [11:53] where does evolution keep all it's profile settings and mail.box ?? === burepe2 [n=bdmp@softbank220040076012.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:53] sudo apt-get install emacs21 === YukiIkyuta [n=celtic@c211-28-183-78.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:54] question: I've added 'keychain' to my ~/.bash_profile to have it ask me for my ssh/gpg passphrases the 1st time I open a terminal window, so I can forget about them later.... but it isn't asking me for my passphrases and each time I try to use ssh I get prompted for it, this wasn't happening in Mandriva2006, any ideas? [11:54] Jaymac, driver didn't install... [11:54] I guess [11:54] ok [11:54] LegoManiac, hmmm it just seems since gstreamer became the standard for ubuntu that its what is going to be supported the most [11:54] asolten: how about emacs21 ? === asfra [n=jan@p54996052.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:54] senectus: ~/.evolution/ IIRC [11:54] I have a network problem. I cannot detect my ubuntu comp with my windows comp. Any suggestions? [11:54] ilba7r: comparing the same os on 2 arcatectures? I'm pretty sre it'd be trasnparent to the user like the difference between IDE and SATA, Intel vs AMD and ATI vs nVidia [11:55] burepe2: can u ping it at least? (ping IP_Ubuntu_computer from windows) [11:55] Where do I get emacs21?? [11:55] captainmorgan.. echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules [11:55] just to see if it is there or not [11:55] what about java on website? they wont play. what package do i download? its differnet in breezy === bogdan_ [n=bogdan@81.196.152.164] has joined #ubuntu [11:56] odat: totem plugin for mozilla isn't up to par yet, imo [11:56] Jaymac, yep.. it returns with "fglrx" === YukiIkyuta [n=celtic@c211-28-183-78.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:56] duomaxwell for me i have to do the comparision for the cost. I know apple is much more stable but i am mainly worried about its running cost and its upgrade [11:56] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 CaptainMorgan.. try this [11:56] oh it does? great [11:56] ignore that url for a sec [11:56] asolten: it should be in your synaptics [11:56] odat [11:56] hi, i'm still runnig hoary here, and my machine won't hibernate, will it work when i install breezy?? thanks :) [11:56] asolten: what does sudo apt-get install emacs21 say? [11:57] burepe2, try typing in terminal 'sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc [11:57] ' [11:57] sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf CaptainMorgain... enter that [11:57] ilba7r: while there may be some difference to the trained geek, I doubt that joe 6 pack will care much so long as he has email and ready access to his free p0rn pix === blablablabla [n=maniac@i3ED6EB85.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:57] It could'nt find the package. === Zugwrack [n=zugwrack@cpe-70-120-176-147.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:57] pc22, yea [11:57] ok asolten... [11:57] and I can't find it in synaptic [11:57] have you enabled all the repositories? [11:57] what about java on website? they wont play. what package do i download? its differnet in breezy [11:57] !tell asolten about nicktab === marcus_ [n=marcus@p50901E81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] Jaymac: emacs is in the main repo [11:58] thats what i thought yeah [11:58] jaymac: returns sudo only one of the options may be used [11:58] so why doesnt synaptic pick it up [11:58] then captain [11:58] asolten: hmm, then try sudo apt-get update [11:58] just go [11:58] wait.. I forget sed [11:58] duomaxwell lol. For me i just need stable system that will support my programming. I do a lot of numerical analysis and simulation. I got the impression that mac is best suited for multimedia which is not my concern at all [11:58] sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:58] scroll down to [11:58] asolten: and then sudo apt-get install emacs21 [11:58] ok.. after sudo sed ..... it returns [11:59] with nothing [11:59] pc22, do you have all your possible repositories open? [11:59] !tell pc22 about java === UniXoiDe [n=cz@196.203.53.74] has left #ubuntu [] [11:59] ilba7r: TCO? you gotta add the microsoft tax on any store bought PC, that and the tons of useless software they come with, the cost of time securing and teaching joe sixpac about windows security and why he shouldn't open those attachments [11:59] yes i did === Sleepwalker [n=Deltaesk@p54A5E686.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] redguy|work, thaks and sorry ... i'm qiute the newbee... [11:59] [06:01] sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf CaptainMorgain... enter that << return nothing [11:59] CAptain... edit your xorg.conf with whatever === yota [n=seb@home.nmeos.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] hi [11:59] whatever ? [11:59] duomaxwell lol. [12:00] anything [12:00] asolten: no problem this is the right place to ask newbie questions [12:00] captain it shouldnt bring back anything [12:00] nano or something [12:00] use nano [12:00] pc22, do you have all the multiverse repositories open too? [12:00] redguy|work, and orvious not very good at spelling... ;) [12:00] im searching for a good prog. where i can open .bin files [12:00] yes [12:00] sudo nano -w /ec/11/xorg..conf [12:00] sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf === iueeiPFde [n=oyfojra@82.79.255.52] has joined #ubuntu === iueeiPFde [n=oyfojra@82.79.255.52] has left #ubuntu [] [12:00] should hibernate work by default in breezy? (yes or no is adequate:) [12:00] ya.. sorry for my lame typing :) [12:00] heh [12:00] alright, Im in nano [12:00] asolten: huh? you misspelled emacs21 ? [12:00] Cap, scroll down to the following section [12:01] asfra depend on your hardware === heatxsink__ [n=jmioph@c-24-7-127-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === ufk [n=ufk@212.150.180.182] has joined #ubuntu === uuuaici [n=oyfojra@82.79.255.52] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] asfra do you have a notebook or a laptop [12:01] Section "Device" [12:01] Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X800 XL (R430 UM)" === uuuaici [n=oyfojra@82.79.255.52] has left #ubuntu [] [12:01] then CaptainMorgan, below that check the driver.. [12:01] it should say fglrx [12:01] ilba7r: while I'm no programmer I've heard from those who are that MAcs are pretty bad ass when it come to crunching numbers, on a forum like Broadband reports the guys running Macs on that distributed computing app are creaming the guys running anything else [12:01] asfra do you have a notebook or a pc [12:01] Jaymac it does [12:01] ok [12:01] exit === Gokee2_ is now known as Gokee2 [12:02] Ctrl + X [12:02] ilba7r, i have a 'laptop' with p4 processor [12:02] try and startx [12:02] ilba7r, what hardware does it depend on? [12:02] asfra ok give me a min [12:02] Jaymac.. my screen went blank....................... [12:02] hiya, i compiled kernel 2.6.14.3 from sources, rebooted and i get lots of errors that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6.14.3/modules.dep, but the file is there. any ideas? === uuuaici [n=oyfojra@82.79.255.52] has joined #ubuntu === uuuaici is now known as Cnoip [12:03] as in sort of whitegrey [12:03] for some reason i have no sound in Gnome but I have sound in GDM... any idea's why? [12:03] that is progress === Cnoip [n=oyfojra@82.79.255.52] has left #ubuntu [] [12:03] asfra ok look at this link and see what is the support status of your notebook https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops [12:03] at first - for like a split second... its now stark black and is staying that way [12:03] hmm [12:03] pc22, then do a search in synaptic for java find the one that says j2re1.4 mozilla plugin and install it and all its dependces [12:03] reboot the machine [12:03] ilba7r, thanks alot!! [12:03] dont worry nothing we're doing is putting your files at further risk [12:03] asfra you are welcomed [12:04] wildman: I can ping the ip address but not the comps name === asolten [n=asolten@shop3.diku.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] burepe2: then u have DNS bad setup on the network, a quick solution is to add the machine to windows hosts file [12:04] duomaxwell how about the running cost of mac. Frankly i went to a mac store to buy one and the guys there did not even know abc how to run even pages [12:05] burepe2: find 'hosts' on windows, open it with notepad and add a line stating the IP and the hostname for the ubuntu machine, save it and try to ping again [12:05] duomaxwell i was so frustrated they all have window lol so how come they are sales representatives? [12:05] How do I do that? [12:05] burepe2: read what I've just wrote [12:06] oh === piyosan [n=piyosan@84-120-112-82.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] If I do that and dhcp changes the ip it will be messed right? [12:06] yup [12:06] burepe2: yup [12:06] yes [12:06] hah [12:06] :) [12:07] that fix only works for fixed IPs ;) [12:07] redguy|work, I tried "sudo-apt get update"... and install still failed... [12:07] burepe2: ask ur network admin to fix DNS then (if it's u, u'll have to do some reading, I'm no DNS expert either ;)) === M4r1u5 [n=boo@121-155-126-86.ftth.rdspt.ro] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] hello [12:08] Jaymac: any hints on how to install from an iso image without burning the CD? [12:08] ilba7r, I wouldn't exspect the store clearks to know anything in the same way I wouldn't trust the car dealer to know one engine from another [12:08] burepe2: BTW, dhcp allows you to set it up in a way that it always assigns the same IP to a machine (based on the machine's NIC MAC address) [12:08] I want a static ip, but when I tried to do it the static ip the net and the network got all messed [12:08] ol1.. excuse me? [12:08] burepe2: read me above again ;) [12:08] anyone know how to make my gnome like macOS [12:08] wildman: if you're the network admin consider using dnsmasq, i'ts pretty easy to configure [12:09] Jaymac... Im completely screwed now... I reboot and it does it's thing.. when done.. Im in complete darkness... no terminall. nothing [12:09] including that mac bottom bar and themes [12:09] ctrl alt backspace [12:09] anyone remembers my keychain question? [12:09] no [12:09] I'll ask it again [12:09] ilba7r: best thing to do is experiment, the apple store is very liberal in what you do, when the G5 came out they let me install every application I had to test them out on it [12:09] question: I've added 'keychain' to my ~/.bash_profile to have it ask me for my ssh/gpg passphrases the 1st time I open a terminal window, so I can forget about them later.... but it isn't asking me for my passphrases and each time I try to use ssh I get prompted for it, this wasn't happening in Mandriva2006, any ideas? [12:09] there [12:09] duomaxwell the other thing make me wonder is why someone with tiger osx would like to run linux lol. I seen a lot here [12:10] ctrl atl backspace does nothing [12:10] can you not boot ubuntu in recovery mode? [12:10] comps running.... no screet [12:10] hay algun espaol? [12:10] ok... I CAN get to Grub [12:11] want me to do that ? === LegoManiac [n=lego@c-71-198-44-81.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:11] ya [12:11] What programsources should I have under Synaptic... I only seem to have "CD Ubuntu 5.10" Should'nt there be an url? [12:11] asolten [12:11] there should be several urls [12:11] ilba7r, I'm not running tiger, only at 10.2.8. I'm a bit of an electronics handyman and thus asked to fix wintels, I've switched a few to Macs, but not all want to buy a new machine. So I figure my best bet is to learn linux so I can teach them [12:11] :) [12:11] Yah they did not object when i was playing around with the software. But at least i was expecting better support from them. Window I do not use anymore so i really do not care if a pc run window or not. But running cot performance and stability is number one [12:11] err, does ubuntu do apt-setup?? [12:11] sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [12:11] then uncomment all the urls [12:12] need a prog to open .bin files [12:12] then save and sudo apt-get update [12:12] anny help ?? [12:12] Jay you talking to me ? [12:12] sleepwalker.. why not ./file.bin [12:12] Jaymac, now were getting somwwhere ;) === piyosan [n=piyosan@84-120-112-82.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [12:12] duomaxwell thanx for all your help and information [12:12] sorry that was to asolten CaptainMorgan [12:12] which kernel for recovery ? 6 or 5 ? [12:12] Sleepwalker: what kind of .bin files? [12:12] shouldnt matter [12:12] asolten: [12:12] duomaxwell by the way did you know that IBM guys prefer mac lol. I was just reading an article on that [12:13] you can check out Settings -> Repositories in Synaptic [12:13] there is an option to add the universe and multiverse sections [12:13] ilba7r: if you wanna try you're had at the comand line in OS X just open terminal under utilities in the applications folder or you can do it hardcore in single user mode by restarting the Mac and holding command s I think [12:13] true.. but the command line is more fun :D === Juhaz [i=voas0113@koopa.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu === Glutinous [n=steven@ppp170-109.lns1.per1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] not to mention efficient... but some clients want visuals [12:14] jaymac: true [12:14] plus it's always handy to do things in the commandline, that way you know what is where and how they are actually working [12:14] Sleepwalker: unzip [12:15] why is always hanging at the Starting NIS servics: ypbind Binding to YP server... ? [12:15] ilba7r that will boot you to just the darwin BSD terminal with no OS X ontop. IBM should be using Macs, they make the G5 chips lol, it's based off their Power4(?) server chips [12:15] Duo [12:15] they dont make chips for apple any more [12:15] that easy oli ? [12:16] aem ol1 [12:16] :) [12:16] Sleepwalker: yupers. [12:16] can you zip it back to a bin ?? === Jaymac should get out of bed [12:16] Jaymac: Since when? How much did I miss since I've been working this job where I have no time? [12:16] wanna change files inside a bin [12:16] apple announced the switch months ago [12:16] DuoMaxwell, it's true; the Apple chips are discontinued. [12:17] duomaxwell some argued that mac is dieing architect as they will switch to pentium based processors if i remember correctly [12:17] Jaymac: What? the switch to intel? [12:17] Jayman: those things are still in development, I know a guy running a dev box [12:17] http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html [12:17] Sleepwalker: bins are usually called "self-extracting archives"when I've seen them to download. so just extract it with unzip and then do whatever you want, but use a more creative utility to repack, like bzip or whatever [12:18] Jaymac Recovery goes to a blank screen too [12:18] Sleepwalker: you could even use midnight commander if you can figure it out === melonipoika [n=jose@dsl-lhtgw1-fe7adf00-124.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] ol1, can't you just go ./.bin [12:18] k thx 4 da help :) [12:18] to unpack ti [12:18] hi there all, what is wrong if i can not telnet my apache2 server ip port 80 from my command prompt? [12:18] Jaymac, thanks ! now I can find all the packages ! [12:18] hi all [12:19] i have a small problem with my wireless card [12:19] asolten, go to the ubuntu forums and search for backports [12:19] Jaymac: I've tried that but it doesn't always work === _eins is now known as _null [12:19] so you can get packages not supported by the ubuntu team [12:19] Captain.. erm [12:19] i need to activate it each time i reboot [12:19] melonipoika what kind of trouble [12:19] you need a live cd [12:19] Jaymac: have you had any success with mc on kernel 2.6? [12:19] i have installed it with ndiswrapper, and it is working fine [12:19] Jaymac, got one [12:20] melonipoika you can open the file /etc/network/interfaces [12:20] knoppix [12:20] is the best [12:20] then i used kwifimanager to configure it [12:20] ok, moment [12:20] but I tried Ubuntus Live CD... but i couldn't access any of my folder or files [12:20] I have spent a really long time trying to fix my libxml-lixml-perl .. I was told yesterday that there was a guide on the wiki about how I upgrade (or reinstall) it ... but I cannot seem to find it .. any advice or can anyone point me in the right direction ? [12:20] melonipoika sudo kwrite /etc/network/interfaces if you have kde [12:20] try knoppix [12:21] me? [12:21] ya [12:21] Jayman and YkiIkyuta: like I said, the current chips are still IMB, OSX86-64 is still months off at best, the stuff thats been seen it about as stable as win98 and I'm not talkin' SE [12:21] i have gnome, but i isntalled kubuntu-desktop as well, jsut to try [12:21] ok, i'm there [12:21] Jaymac, where, what ?? sorry... [12:21] hang on asolten [12:21] at the end i have auto wlan0 [12:21] melonipoika ok you should have one and only one auto wlan0 [12:21] noone have any idea how I can upgrade or reinstall libxml ? [12:22] link ? [12:22] what's the default username /passwd for webmin? [12:22] i have only one auto wlan0, but i also have auto eth0... [12:22] melonipoika if you have a line auto eth0 delete or comment it for it is the causing the trouble [12:22] ah, ok === munzir [n=munzir@85.129.181.125] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] Jaymac: can you install Knoppix from a harddrive? [12:22] and leave the lo [12:23] How do i know what's live? http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html [12:23] Last time i used knoppix you could install it [12:23] yes [12:23] rosen: what's up? [12:23] and how do i configure the wireless with gnome? i had to use kwifimanager to set ad-hoc === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu === anatole [n=ZOMG@dsl5400A0AA.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] oh hey dooglus ... I'm having problem with libxml-libxml-perl errormessages [12:23] i didn't find that option in system, network... [12:23] asolten p, [12:23] Jaymac: howbout openBSD? [12:23] pm* === kofj [i=kofj@221.239.223.185] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] Hi sirs, in synaptic there are many disabled repo. would enabling all of them cause some conflicts? [12:23] never used bsd [12:24] melonipokia there is one for the network [12:24] dooglus, and then yesterday some fellow advised me to upgrade my libxml using a guide on wiki ... so I searched .. and searched .. and.... [12:24] rosen: what are the messages? [12:24] nevermind.. they're all live [12:24] give me amin to load the gnome-panel [12:24] dooglus, sec I'll find them again [12:24] Jaymac, p ? I'm a little clueless... hehe === Xenguy [n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] Jayman and YkiIkyuta: Also you guys did know that Intel already has made chips for Apple,l they allong with IBM made G3 chips for things like my current iBook [12:24] private ,essahe [12:25] melonipokia system>administration>networking and you might run configure [12:25] yeah intel have been making apple chips since like 2002 right? [12:25] I like tacos [12:25] :) [12:25] or even before? [12:25] asolten, check your private message.. [12:25] Jayman and YkiIkyuta: I think that was announced in MW '99 [12:25] ah [12:25] yes, it is asking for the essid, wep, and all that... but not for ad-hoc, or managed... [12:25] Jaymac which do I download: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/knoppix/ ? [12:25] dooglus, after I use sudo apt-get upgrade for example I get this return [12:25] libxml-sax-perl [12:25] libxml-libxml-perl [12:25] libxml-simple-perl [12:25] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) === ol1 [n=liloi@S01060004e2599947.pk.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:26] Jaymac, have not gotten one ?? [12:26] well and alot of other things :O [12:26] melonipokia you have to write managed by hand you are right [12:26] should i write that also in interfaces? [12:26] rosen: are you registered with nickserv? [12:26] Captain: Download Knoppix (the distro itself is the live cd) and depending on your computers architecture [12:26] ok, so what should i write for ad-hoc? [12:26] Id say go with x86 if its listed? [12:26] melonipoka but wep key is already there [12:26] download the english version of course :) [12:26] yes, it is [12:26] that too [12:27] dooglus, I'll do that ... now whee did I (mis)place my password [12:27] melonipoka am not familiar with adhoc? [12:27] Knoppix is awesome CaptainMorgan [12:27] asolten.. ok [12:27] rosen: alternatively, could you put the whole thing on pastebin [12:27] how do you use pastebin? [12:27] !paste [12:27] ah, ok [12:27] it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text [12:27] first live debian based disr besides debian itself that i ever used.. nicely configured too :) [12:27] ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/knoppix/ [12:27] which one? === egytrack [n=egytrack@196.204.157.179] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] !paste [12:27] there's MaNY [12:27] thanks, i will see if i find where to set up ad-hoc by default [12:27] Mr_Milenko: there is a debian live cd? [12:27] rosen: that is a way of asking the bot to tell you the pastebin URL [12:28] Jaymac: whats baffeled me is that I remember seeing that Apple and IBM worked with AMD on the Athlon64 and I wouldn't mind seeing a dual core Optron running OS X, hell even Sun is using them [12:28] en.iso or en.iso.m5, or ? [12:28] not to my knowledge [12:28] dooglus, ah allright I'll try [12:28] i ment Knoppix was the first deb based distro i used [12:28] CaptainMorgan: what knoppix would do you most propably can do with ubuntu live cd [12:28] !paste [12:28] paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text [12:28] besides debian itself [12:28] redguy: wrong. === FatDarel [n=FatDarre@mailout1.vmware.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] Knoppix comes pre-loaded with wine, extra tools for system repair, couple games [12:29] I tried Ubuntu LIve - I can't access any of my files === namola_ [n=namola@58.142.100.16] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] or the net [12:29] and a bunch of other stuff [12:29] also knoppix auto-mounts harddrives [12:29] :D [12:29] good system restore cd [12:29] Mr_Milenko: oh.. didn't use the ubuntu live cd... [12:29] asolten check pastebin [12:29] yeah.. ubuntu live is just the basic ubuntu install on a cd [12:29] :( [12:29] Mr_Milenko: thought that ubuntu would auto mount harddrives too === Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === bigfoot1 [n=hideseek@FLH1Abr094.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] dooglus, I pasted it all in #flood [12:30] didnt for me i might be wrong [12:30] dooglus, I think this Can't locate object method "save_parsers_debian" via package "XML::SAX" at /usr/bin/update-perl-sax-parsers line 90. is the first error [12:30] rosen: that's no good if I'm not there at the time, like I wasn't... [12:30] captainMorgan i am not sure if your filesystem is mounted when you use livecd [12:30] guys, how can i view windows media movie files and apple quicktime movie files within firefox 1.5? [12:30] dooglus, heheh [12:30] I have to run... need food === rhubear [n=rhubear@217.24.128.152] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] I'm there now though. could you paste againn? [12:30] omg... 2hour download!? WTF [12:30] bigfoot.. .mov and linux dont play well [12:30] Knoppix auto mounts file systems [12:31] captainMorgan and if you are using a wireless than most probably you need a ndiswrapper [12:31] it scans on boot for harddrives [12:31] Jaymac, i can play .mov files if i download them first [12:31] gotta riun, good luc Catai Morgan [12:31] i can play them in xine [12:31] but not in browser [12:31] Jaymac, I'm really sorry but im quite a newbie... I don't know what you mean : pastebin or backports? [12:31] !paste [12:31] it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text [12:31] captainMorgan or a softmodem so you will need special driver which is not included in the base installation [12:31] go to that url asolten [12:31] and search for my name [12:31] rosen: I'm wondering if this is because you installed some of the Perl modules manually. [12:31] ndiswrapper/???? will you people please make up your mind? was I needed madwifi for my atheros [12:32] captainMorgan sorry did not know you have atheros === lockhead [n=lockhead@elev-gw.fredly.fhs.no] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:32] this channel gets confusing... just reading stuff in here makes me pop a couple tylenol lol [12:32] Mr_Milenko!h ahaah! [12:32] On my fourth valium [12:32] already [12:32] rofl [12:32] dooglus, I dont think I did.. I only used synaptic, automatix and the mail-script to install anything [12:33] i slipped on some ice the other day... broke my ass (litterally) [12:33] :-/ [12:33] doc gave me some vics [12:33] muahaha [12:33] anyone.. back on topic [12:33] but I got the same error when I installed checkgmail [12:33] anyway* === BockBilbo [n=Bock@eu85-84-43-70.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] rosen: you told me before that you started working through the first post at the ubuntuforums site, running stuff like "libxml-libxml-perl" [12:33] um. [12:33] stuff like "sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'" [12:33] one thing before i go [12:33] captain, got any other computers running linux? [12:33] no [12:34] forget that idea then [12:34] linux comp is my main comp [12:34] i'll be back in a while.. hope you get it sorted [12:34] <_null> How do I build debian packages? === jeantodt [n=jeantodt@85-18-136-77.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] dooglus, no, I tried to find a guide on wiki but I could only find short posts about xml that I didnt understand at all === ananth126 [n=Ananth@203.200.202.132] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] Anyone running Ubuntu successfully on SMP (OPteron)?? [12:35] going on three days.... almost straight... all i wanted to do was fix the wifi.... but noooooooo. I completely fook up my whole system rendering it inoperable... [12:35] dooglus, the only thing I could have done to screw anything up I think is playing with the repositories and I got the error before that aswell === K_Dallas [i=Korben@i216-58-91-210.cybersurf.com] has joined #ubuntu === redmonkey [n=redmonke@85.180.50.238] has joined #ubuntu === K_Dallas [i=Korben@i216-58-91-210.cybersurf.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === CaptainMorgan reaches for yet another valium [12:36] ubotflu tell _null about packaging [12:36] rosen: did you not say: 02:25 < rosen> this is the command that's giving me issues 02:25 < rosen> sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple' [12:36] captinmorgan i do not know your hardware but had similar problem can you connect to the net through a wired interface eth [12:36] Jaymac, I finaly found it thanks! === djib [n=djib@brusa.chu.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] liba - no [12:37] dooglus, ooh but thats a line from the checkgmail script isnt it ? [12:37] I can't even can a screen - it's black [12:37] cant' even get a screen... [12:37] Whats the difference between the Gentoo Universal install CD and the package CD? The package CD just apps? === neuro|laptop [n=neuro@neuro.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] dooglus, I havent really done anything but copy/pasting at this time ... since I have no idea what I'm doing :P [12:38] captinmorgan did you play with the kernel modules> [12:38] rosen: that's a line from the forum about how to install checkgmail - but it's stupid. you should use apt-get to install stuff, not "sudo perl -MCPAN". That's what I tried to point out in my followup post. === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-179-31.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] liba.. not that I recall... I only wanted to upgrade to breezy === rhubear [n=rhubear@217.24.128.152] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === lockhead [n=lockhead@elev-gw.fredly.fhs.no] has joined #ubuntu === Fujitsu_ is now known as Fujitsu [12:39] ooh [12:39] so what can I do with the live cd - ubuntus.... I can't access any files... nor can I get net access like I could before [12:39] captinmorgan so you have an installation cd or just the live one [12:39] check out the gfx driver too..... [12:39] if x is all black. [12:40] dooglus, so I could use sudo apt-get 'install XML: :Simple' .... or something ? [12:40] anyone know why my icons are rendered horrible and not drawn right in dapper, nameny synaptic, maybe in other gtk apps too. [12:40] rosen: I'm not entirely sure what those "sudo perl -MCPAN" lines have done, and how to undo them. === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] Sirs, where can I find an explanation of what each repository means? [12:40] dooglus, that sounds ... bad :D [12:40] rosen: and I don't know Dutch, so I'm finding it hard to read your #paste messages [12:41] so what can I do with the live cd - ubuntus.... I can't access any files... nor can I get net access like I could before [12:41] captinmorgan if i am in your place i will just reinstall [12:41] trying to... but I need to access the dat [12:41] to backup [12:41] dooglus, yeah I should have installed with english it would make the guides much easier aswell [12:41] first [12:41] CaptainMorgan: what is your gfx card? [12:41] How do i set, which program handles which files? [12:41] dooglus, oh and it's danish ;) === ilba7r_ [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] I tried cdrecord when wasn't black.. === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:41] keychain, here we go again [12:41] when X wasn't black [12:41] why doesn't keychain ask me for passphrases????? [12:41] CaptainMorgan: how about running dpkg-reconfigure -p medium xserver-xorg ? [12:41] but cdrecord did shit [12:41] this is plain wrong... === MotoHoss [i=abel@h141.223.102.166.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] rosen: what does "sudo apt-get -f install" tell you? [12:42] red i can't accessa terminal [12:42] I've deleted ~/.keychain, and running keychain again tells me initializing blablabla... but NEVER asks me for passphrases [12:42] any ideas? [12:42] the screens black [12:42] CaptainMorgan: can you press Alt+F? or ctl+alt+F ? === fireside [n=fireside@84.12.173.231] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] dooglus, exactly the same message [12:42] captinmorgan you have an installtion cd sorry i was dc [12:42] CaptainMorgan: even when you hit what aftertaf said? [12:43] if you have one just either reinstall or try typing rescue at the boot line [12:43] ... well. now Im doing the live again.. see what happens [12:43] ilba7r_: a live cd it seems. [12:43] will give you a rescue mode [12:43] whats your problem CaptainMorgan ? [12:43] will I lose data ? [12:43] CaptainMorgan: when it boots and then goes black, try swapping consoles with ctl+alt+F1 [12:43] ubuntu should be able to install from livecd like mepis [12:44] how come I can't access my data using a live cd ? [12:44] captinmorgan do not format anything and you will not loose anything [12:44] dooglus, I have been pondering to reinstall my box though, and NOT use automatix and all the other scripts to install my programs... since I really dont learn much from pasting scripts and such [12:44] lib, not planning on it ;) [12:44] CaptainMorgan: whats your problem ? [12:44] captainmorgan the live cd do not mount your harddisk. [12:44] ilba7r_: well it can, there's the ubuntu live + install dvd [12:45] lib, how do I moutn it [12:45] sorry. dragoon... what isn't my problem? [12:45] CaptainMorgan: whats your problem ? [12:45] heh [12:45] whats broken - everything ? === senectus [n=senectus@203.161.68.42] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] X won't start, I can't get a command line [12:45] depend on your configuration do you remember how did you partition your harddisk [12:45] oh great [12:45] why not boot from a ubuntu live cd [12:45] mount your stuff [12:46] and copy what you need to another partition [12:46] then reinstall ? === tristan_ [n=tristan@140.77.101.21] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] Im on alive cd now... how do I mount? [12:46] open a terminal [12:46] got one [12:46] sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 === ElitePete [n=pete@c-24-131-71-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] mkdir /media/hda1 1st [12:46] wel.. what ever the drive is that your mounting [12:47] ESD has shagged itself on my PC because I swapped my mainboard and yanked the old SBLive! I had, is there some way to completly reconfigure ESD? [12:47] rosen: that's a good idea. [12:47] Anybody know why Samba continues to ask for a password for a Windows share that does not require one? Also, why does Samba ask for a password when I go to > Places > Network Servers? I do not need passwords for these and Samba is spamming me... Why? [12:47] dpkg-reconfigure? senectus [12:47] rosen: I've seen lots of people suggest NOT using automatix [12:47] moutn point media doens' exit [12:47] exist [12:47] mkdir /media/ [12:47] mkdir /media/hda1 === john_351 [n=john@dialup-87.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] can anyone help me my .wma files show up as asf video? [12:47] rosen: I just read that there's no way of uninstalling packages installed using CPAN ( http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/077623.html ) [12:48] dooglus, that's what I'm thinking.. It's all those little tasks it performs I should have learned from doing [12:48] permission denied [12:48] sudo before it [12:48] its tanya how does this thing work someone tell me [12:48] sudo mkdir /media/hda{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10} [12:48] rosen: I'm not sure about it - a lot of the tasks are stupid little things you only need to do once anyway. [12:48] for example ;) [12:48] filesytem type ? [12:49] will cover the 1st 10 partitions for hda :P === _null is now known as _eins [12:49] rosen: they would be included in the default install if it wasn't for legal reasons [12:49] CaptainMorgan: whats your / partition drive ? [12:49] well partition [12:49] uh.... Win for 50gigs... Linux takes the rest for 25 [12:49] so linux would be /dev/hda2 ? [12:49] ESD has shagged itself on my PC because I swapped my mainboard and yanked the old SBLive! I had, is there some way to completly reconfigure ESD? [12:50] dooglus, oh it's just because I find it hard to 'get a foot in the door' ... And now I've tried running linux so there is really no turning back to windows... I wanna learn :O [12:50] isn't there a command to list the partitions ? [12:50] CaptainMorgan, mount [12:50] fdisk -l [12:50] are yous safe lets do a bit ov chattin now lads [12:50] senectus: try using dpkg-reconfigure === alexandre [n=alexandr@213-193-180-142.adsl.easynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] Ubuntu don't work so what one should I try next as a linux newb? http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php?pick=Linux_PPC&showonly=All&sort=&sm=1 [12:51] DuoMaxwell, how doesn't Ubuntu work? [12:51] mount's no help.. === Kwitschibo [n=Kwitschi@p5480493F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] CaptainMorgan: fdisk -l [12:51] sudo fdisk -l === darknature [n=darknatu@ip68-226-219-225.lf.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] aftertaf, aparently dpkg-reconfigure doesn't see "esd" as an app it can reconfigure [12:51] can't get my iBook te see it as a bootable volume [12:52] DuoMaxwell, I've tried most of the distros out there, but I gotta say ... Ubuntu is the only one that have lasted more than a few days ;) [12:52] what is the package name? === squire [n=squire@213-162-107-186.squire570.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] aftertaf, esd === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] what the hell u lot chattin on about [12:52] gstreamer0.8-esd , libesd-alsa0 [12:52] fireside, Ubuntu, would you believe. [12:53] senectus: try dpkg -l | grep esd [12:53] can anyone help me my .wma files show up as asf video? [12:53] Rosen: Project one for me is to get any non apple OS to boot on this thing outside of emulation, then try and install [12:53] ElitePete, wma files are audio only. [12:53] yes i know yuki. [12:53] Can ne1 help me get my music to open in xmms by default? [12:53] ElitePete, probably are asf then [12:53] So how an ASF video ..? [12:53] but they wont play in xmms and they have the asf icon. [12:53] ast, they are WMA. [12:53] Oh. [12:53] supposedly I mounted it.. .but I can't access it's media directory/ [12:53] OH*. [12:53] aftertaf, that gave me several lines of stuff.. what's it mean? [12:53] -ahem- [12:53] Sorry. [12:53] permission denide [12:53] even after sudo [12:53] whos yukiikyuta its tanya from fireside [12:54] DuoMaxwell, aaaah ... I really dont know nothing about apple computers ... just like most of the talk inhere is jibberish to me ;) [12:54] senectus: dpkg -l lists the packages installed, the grp bit filters to show only those with esd in the name. [12:54] fireside, this is the Ubuntu Linux support channel. [12:54] fireside, I don't know who or what that is. [12:54] i can play them in totem movie player. but they are audio only obviously, how do i play them in xmms ? === asi1 [n=asi1@237.Red-217-126-203.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] ElitePete, k can't say I have any wma audio files to test it for you [12:54] k wiat... [12:54] I mounted the wrong partition [12:54] hehehe [12:54] rosen: I know how you fell, I'm seeing that now [12:54] i will figure it out after school today i guess then [12:54] in media/sda2 is windows [12:55] aftertaf, ok.. so dpkg-reconfigure all those and that might help? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@host22-83.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === Nikusan [n=Nikusan@hamax3-015.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] DuoMaxwell, but really ... this is the best place to get help... and Ubuntu is (in general) MUCH easier to comprehend than the other distros I've tried [12:55] senectus: try the one that most seems like the actual package and not a plugin.... [12:55] fireside is a place where we just sign on and chat what the hell is a support channel what do you lot do [12:55] ElitePete, tried using open with? [12:55] senectus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ;) [12:56] fireside, this is a channel (place where people talk) to help people if they're having problems using Ubuntu. [12:56] fireside: you are in an official support channel for ubuntu, this is not a chat room === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-16-20.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu === kao [n=kao@modemcable023.136-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === kao is now known as Kaobear [12:56] o... I successfully mounted that bad ass mofo linux partition.. I can access files... [12:56] now what? [12:56] astxist yes [12:56] aftertaf, thanks, need to reboot I think [12:57] i know that now and im laughing my face off sorry but i still dont get what ubuntu is someone tell me === surfdue [n=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] fireside, http://www.ubuntulinux.org [12:57] !ubuntu [12:57] it has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian. http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards [12:57] CaptainMorgan: capy them where u want [12:57] !awards [12:57] methinks awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks [12:57] guys, how can i view windows media movie files and apple quicktime movie files within firefox 1.5? [12:57] captain morgan.. YAY [12:57] ubuntu is a secret African tribe that bites the heads off of people who ask what is it [12:58] CaptainMorgan, dork :-) [12:58] copy them where I want? [12:58] :) [12:58] haha [12:58] im in the live cd [12:58] rosen: I've tried a few live CDs on x86, Mandrake move, Damn Small, Helix and Linspire 5-0 Live, Linspire I actually liked [12:58] ...I'm going to do it ! ... start from scratch with a clean slate ! ... be back a little later ... probably crying about how everything is too confusing and nothing works :D [12:58] Hear Ye, good people! Can anyone help me with a screen resolution problem? I just installed Ubuntu on my work computer and resolution is 800x600 60Hz and can't be set higher once I'm logged in. Where can I possibly set this all up? [12:58] bgfoot1 install mozilla-mplyaer plugin [12:58] ElitePete, ok I'm looking into it === surfdue [n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:58] DuoMaxwell i used to like linspire === aeon17x [n=knoppix@210.5.112.19] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] DuoMaxwell, I've only messed with debian, redhat, mandrake and SuSe === hara [n=hara@dsl-prvgw1-fe39df00-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] CaptainMorgan: then reboot to linux and see if you can get to console with terminal swapping.... alternatively, try pressing alt+f1 on boot, when it gets to starting gdm.... [12:59] captain morgan your lyeing its not a tribe that bites the heads off people and its tanya that as asked [12:59] hello. any packagebuilder experts around/alive here? [12:59] I feel retarded, I have been trying to get sound to work on my computer for three days and don't have anymore done than when i started === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] ive tried almost every linux distro, ubuntu is like the only one i will install [12:59] aftertaf: control-alt-f1 I think you mean [12:59] alexandre: edit your xorg.conf [12:59] aftertaf you mean like replace every file in live with the partitions files... then reboot? [12:59] Anyways, I'll reinstall my my box ... and pray for the best [12:59] Kaobear in terminal, type alsamixer [12:59] dooglus: yeah, depends if x has blocked at that point or not. [12:59] rosen: from what I gather you can't get the Linspire live CD anymore as it was a promo for them, but if you'd like it I can send you the .iso [01:00] morgan did u jus get my last message [01:00] nah === ogra_ is now known as ogra [01:00] CaptainMorgan: no!!!! [01:00] DuoMaxwell, nah I'm ok with Ubuntu .. now I just have to learn how to use it :) thanks for the offer though [01:00] ? [01:00] please clarify aftertaf [01:00] aftertaf: Thanks, I'm having a peek in there right now. Let's see what I can get out of this file... ;-) [01:00] ElitePete, here you go http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms [01:00] i said it was tanya that was askin and its not a tribe that bites the heads off people seriously what is it [01:01] ty astxist [01:01] CaptainMorgan: 2 things being advised: 1) how to access some files to make a backup , 2) how to get around the black screen on boot [01:01] fireside, you must really want your head to disappear [01:01] ah.... [01:01] captain, how's it going? [01:01] fireside: quit wasting time === drcode [n=user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] now I see ya aftertaf [01:01] yooou [01:01] CaptainMorgan: :] [01:01] you... [01:01] well iof it makes u feel better take my head [01:02] astxist unfortunatly none of that information applies to me.... [01:02] in the words of robert Deniro:... you.... you... yo're god [01:02] fireside, Ubuntu is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ [01:02] good [01:02] CaptainMorgan: the mount thing you did gives you access to your hard drive, if you want to copy some files to another partition now is the time. [01:02] who is god? [01:02] fireside, see the next message from ubotflu, too. [01:02] !ubuntu [01:02] rumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian. http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards [01:02] knoppix work? === shrikant [n=shrikant@220.225.32.98] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] nothing, no sound at all [01:02] Kaobear have you done alsamixer in terminal yet? [01:03] yes I did, jacked all the volumes up and got squat [01:03] aftertaf, why not make backup of the files.. and reinstall? or can I send the data on the linux partion to Win ? [01:03] I have an onboard Realtek ALC 880 chipset if that makes a different [01:03] ubotflu u not speaking no sense to me [01:03] Wish i knew, fireside === dragoon [n=sam@dsl-203-113-237-51.SA.netspace.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [01:03] stop calling me fireside its tanya [01:03] kaobear i have that same chip. [01:03] aftertaf: Apparently, my screen is detected as "generic monitor" and a list of resolutions only shows 800x600. Is there a tool I can use to have my screen detected? Or something else I should do? [01:03] CaptainMorgan: send to win, you can, you'll need to mount the win partition too. but on the black screen thing, have you tried to swap to another terminal at any point? [01:03] do you see the volume icon toolbar? [01:03] fireside, your nickname is set to fireside, therefore that's what we're going to call you. === marcin_ [n=marcin@dsm76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] u lot are mad [01:04] alexandre: add "1024x768" as an option in xorg.conf. for the screen, it doesnt actually matter iirc [01:04] fireside if you are going to insult us please go jump off a cliff [01:04] fireside: i dont think this channel was the one you were looking for [01:04] nah.. right now.. Ill Win won't mind that I temporarily store Lin there ? [01:04] Pete, Fireside( tanya) wants to give me head === bungle [n=bungle@user-1025.lns1-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:05] !op [01:05] parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, aftertaf [01:05] yer u right there but now im on this channel i want to know what yous lot do [01:05] !ops [01:05] Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth [01:05] ElitePete, I installed the package and wma plays fine in XMMS now [01:05] base jumping - not yet [01:05] ast it doesn't for me :\ [01:05] The only sound I get is the system beep [01:05] !ops [01:05] Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth [01:05] !ops [01:05] of course, the ops are probably all asleep lol [01:05] CaptainMorgan, once should be enough. :) [01:05] well i gotta go to school [01:05] the volume is all the way up [01:06] give your self head morgan [01:06] shut up ubotflu [01:06] ElitePete, don't know then maybe you have something else wrong with xmms [01:06] fireside, wouldn't be here if I could! [01:06] ElitePete, I'm guessing it plays other audio files fine? === MrBlunts [n=Big@pool-141-153-54-199.char.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] fireside, we are a support channel for Ubuntu Linux. End of story. If you want to find out more, and not insult us, go here: http://ubuntulinux.org/ Otherwise, you won't find anything of interest. [01:06] yes [01:06] aftertaf where'd ya go? [01:06] astxist i really must leave but thx for the help [01:07] ElitePete, k [01:07] oh so what is it exactly what u do morgan [01:07] Any recomendations? [01:07] http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php?pick=Linux_PPC&showonly=All&sort=&sm=1 [01:07] CaptainMorgan: id suggest you try booting again first... normally no need to reinstall, so no need to abckup. [01:07] hello everyone [01:07] fireside: will you PACK IT IN? [01:07] pack what in [01:07] aftertaf - Ill pack IT in her [01:08] Tanya, if you watch what most of us doing right now, you can see. [01:08] morgan u bad [01:08] aftertaf.. so what was the point of mounting then? [01:08] just to see if I can access the files ? [01:08] CaptainMorgan: for the backups...... [01:08] so now ou want me to reboot? [01:09] CaptainMorgan: i'd like to try a reboot first to see if you can get around the X problem..... but first.... [01:09] but you said no need for the backup === unistd [n=unistd@unaffiliated/unistd] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] CaptainMorgan: can you edit your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 ? [01:09] but what does it mean what you lot are writing down === djib [n=djib@brusa.chu.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] CaptainMorgan: i wasnt the one who told you to backup and reinstall. [01:09] Tanya, some people are having some issues with using Ubuntu, and they ask for help here. Most of the time, they get it from other people, also here. [01:09] quite helpful channel actually === Hoxzer [n=niko@dsl-hkigw2-fe10de00-26.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer_ [n=niko@dsl-hkigw2-fe10de00-26.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] hey aftertaf.. [01:10] uhm.. [01:10] CaptainMorgan: I really wonder what's wrong with your machine :/ [01:10] can you ping stuff while in console? [01:10] oh so ubuntu means there having trouble wiv there computer [01:10] this is probably bad...you think? - I went to the X11 dir... there is no xorg.conf file [01:10] CaptainMorgan: i think you can reboot and solve the problem. after an upgrade to breezy and X wont start you need to reconfigure xorg [01:10] fireside: that's not english [01:11] usllay there's more in X11... but Im missing like half of my files [01:11] what do u mean its not english [01:11] Tanya, no, not at all. If you please look here: http://ubuntulinux.org/ , you can see what Ubuntu is - a free Operating System, like Windows. [01:11] (like Windows, except that it's free, and better!) [01:11] fireside: I meant it made no sense ;P === john_351 [n=john@dialup-87.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] tanya, take my hand - ill show you the way [01:11] fireside: You are not in the least amusing, just pointless [01:11] oh so its not an african tribe then [01:11] No. [01:11] this is probably bad...you think? - I went to the X11 dir... there is no xorg.conf file === kao [n=kao@modemcable023.136-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] usllay there's more in X11... but Im missing like half of my files [01:12] That and you have to pay for windows, weither you want it or not from a store machine lol [01:12] CaptainMorgan: ok so you need to get the install finished in console. [01:12] CaptainMorgan: when you installed ubuntu, did you partition separate space for Ubuntu and your files? [01:12] Though it may be in the future... (if I have anything to do with it() [01:12] CaptainMorgan: did you upgtrade from hoary, or from warty...? [01:12] hoary === kao is now known as Kaobear [01:12] by people for people in figurative terms [01:12] CaptainMorgan: are you on ubuntu right now? no? [01:12] partition spearate space AND files ? [01:12] yes [01:12] live cd [01:12] ok just one last thing i think u lot are good on computers to understand all them numbers and lines and that [01:12] oh. hmm [01:12] mounted harddrive [01:12] According to what I have read, I have to uddate my ALSA drivers, I think [01:13] Any idea on how to do this? [01:13] aftef installl finsihed ? [01:13] CaptainMorgan: I mean, are your files on a separate partition than Ubuntu? [01:13] Kaobear, ALSA is typically in the kernel. [01:13] can't I copy the livecd xorg.conf to the mounted X11 dir? [01:13] Eww? [01:13] no chousuke [01:13] Yep. Where have you read that, though? [01:13] too bad :/ [01:13] they're in ubuntu [01:13] CaptainMorgan: can you try to boot and use the console swapping to get a console login? if so you can try a couple of commands. === KeroppiX [i=tconlgv@203.130.247.151] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] yukiIkyuta are u cinese [01:14] CaptainMorgan: if you had a separate partition for the files, you could just wipe your system without touching your files [01:14] CaptainMorgan: you'll need to write them down if you cant access the net in console, or irc [01:14] Tanya, no. YukiIkyuta is a Japanese name, however. [01:14] just a sec, i'll get you the page [01:14] fireside: how old are you? === Hobbsee uses /ignore fireside [01:14] Tanya, I have no doubts some people here are in fact Chinese. [01:14] wait.. please clarify [01:14] what should I do? [01:14] same en it can u get into trouble for chattin top me [01:14] Hobbsee, only problem with /ignoring is that it gets confusing when others start replying to no-one. o_O [01:14] I can't find the damn thing, I wanna try this Gentoo PPC LiveCD but I can't find it anywhere on their site for download, theres mention of it but no .iso [01:14] first, reboot and try console swapping? [01:14] YukiIkyuta: hehe, that is true [01:15] Tanya, this isn't true; a Chinese person outside of China could do so. I'm not sure about inside China. [01:15] CaptainMorgan: yes... you should try that.... but first note down how to, if you dont know how.... [01:15] no worries [01:15] IMon a second comp [01:15] CaptainMorgan: and note the commands to try... can you get on the net or not in console? [01:15] duomaxwell i won't recommend gentoo as first linux distribution. It will take you days to get running system. Its harder then debian [01:15] u did not answer my question could u get into trouble chattin to me [01:15] CaptainMorgan: hehe ojk ;=) [01:15] my main machine is the one havin gproblems [01:15] ..so Ill reboot now [01:15] That was a question? === [A] ndy80 [n=wettreyw@host215-170.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:16] Why would I get in trouble, though? [01:16] yer [01:16] YukiIkyuta, i think http://www.alsa-project.org/documentation.php is where I got it [01:16] wanna grab a bunch of liveCDs for PPC while I sleep to see if any of them will boot this damn thing === john_351 [n=john@dialup-87.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:16] i dont know aint u in some sort ov office i mean your friends are moaning ent they [01:16] Kaobear, okay, but which reason in particular? [01:17] Tanya, .. what? I'm at home. [01:17] what's the command for console swapping? alt-f1... [01:17] ilba7r, its past my bedtime, I'm getting to impatient for doing, well anything lol === aftertaf recommends /ignore fireside ALL [01:17] CaptainMorgan: yes === Beleys [i=sauget@tolkien.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] well thats what i mean yuki i dont understand about this thing === HymnToLife [n=_mfb@dyn-213-36-162-201.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] how can i change the target host type when building a package? i'm on athlonxp1800 and dpkg-buildpackage wants to build for i486 [01:18] I have no sound whatsoever except the system beep and that is all that is from keeping me from using Ubuntu as my main OS [01:18] duomaxwell look at this forum specially for mac http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=95 [01:18] Kaobear: which soundcard do you have? [01:18] Tanya, this is just a channel, an online chat room, but this has been designed for use as a support channel where people can come to get help. People all over the world are here, some from home, some from work, wherever! [01:18] ubuntu is mean... it's an old Native American Indian tale of a giant bear.. one bigger than a Grizzly === heatxsink__ [n=jmioph@c-24-7-127-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] Chousuke an onboard Realtek ALC 880 chipset [01:19] Hmm :/ === JzE [n=jze@a84-231-30-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] I have no experience of that. [01:19] yuki your cute [01:19] duomaxwell and this to see how well ppc is supported === [R] itchie|home is now known as [R] itchie [01:19] CaptainMorgan: yes. try also CTl+ALT+F1, and if you have the splash screen, try also alt+F8... just avoid alt+f7 cos it's the console where X runs. === CaptainMorgan decides to rewatch Batman Begins.. while the process of restoring his beloved Linux with the support of fine folks is taking place.... [01:19] !ops fireside won't stop being stupid [01:19] redguy|work: Bugger all, i dunno [01:20] hrm [01:20] duomaxwell if you have airport extreme forget the wireless. I remember there was a thread to install x on mac. Then you can access all linux packages without installation [01:20] yuki [01:20] Tanya? [01:20] ilba7r I tried there months ago when I 1st recived an official ShipIt copy of 5.04, noone could figure out why my particular iBook wouldn't see the Ubuntu install CD as a boot volume or why the Live CD would crash halfway into the boot [01:20] fireside: WILL YOU PACK IT IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND GO AWAY! [01:20] rofl === Quizzer [n=addict@Toronto-HSE-ppp3906134.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] did u see what i wrote [01:20] ilba7r I don't have any wireless gear [01:20] Yes, I saw. Thank you. [01:21] at least the channel is logged, so fireside will soon be banned [01:21] for good. [01:21] No you packe it in! ( Wedding Crashers ) ;) === mitch_ [n=mitch@ool-45743d7c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === Sonderblade [n=muh@213.131.147.169] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] look, go to ubuntu-offtopic for non help-related things. [01:21] exactly, aftertaf :P [01:21] CaptainMorgan, rofl, that was a slightly amusing movie. [01:21] duomaxwell i do not think apple hardware is well supported on linux [01:21] k... ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work..... [01:21] hey ... can someone tell me how to use or install gstreamer? [01:21] how do you change the root password, so i can use the update manager program [01:21] yuki whos aftertaf [01:21] the one i set at install doesnt work [01:22] Tanya, someone else here! [01:22] Quizzer: You shouldn't have set a password at install [01:22] well his mean en he === mikhail^ [n=dean@210.213.150.3] has joined #ubuntu === falaris [n=falaris@210.106.25.68] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] Quizzer: by default, ubuntu uses sudo [01:22] its probably not the password you are trying [01:22] Quizzer: input your own password [01:22] alt-f8 doesn't work either [01:22] i just set the password on the user account it created [01:22] if you forgot your own password, then... eh. === nase [n=nase@F21c9.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] CaptainMorgan: and with ctl too? not working? [01:22] ilba7r OS X is BSD based and theres atleast 25-30 projects that do PPC Linux, Yellow Dog being PPC only [01:22] Can someone tell me how to use gstreamer? [01:22] check if you accidentally typed it with caps-lock on [01:22] none aftertaf === kanapeace [n=kanapeac@88.137.64.237] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] that was it .. stupid caps lock [01:23] CaptainMorgan: try booting in the rescue mode then [01:23] heehe [01:23] CaptainMorgan: ok.... reboot it again and try to do it just at the moment where the console goes away and x starts loading..... [01:23] redguy - at boot: ? [01:23] aftertaf what is me chattin on here bothering u [01:23] Can someone tell me if there is a Windows Manager other then gnome of xfce? [01:23] fireside: You could at least speak proper English [01:23] or [01:23] mitch_: plenty, kde for one [01:24] icewm is another [01:24] i dont uinderstand what u mean proper english [01:24] mitch try the forums desktop support [01:24] CaptainMorgan: don't you have a menu? === blaaman1 [n=rune@144.84-48-18.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] nah [01:24] let me revise my question, a Windows Manager that is less ram intensive then xfce or gnome, i know xfce is faster then gnome (for me personaly) but is there one faster then xfce?? [01:25] for the live cd I did [01:25] you apparently not giving half a flying shit that this is a support channel and despite the fact that many of us have asked you to either stop being offtopic, leave, and stop asking stupid non related questions IS bothering me, YES! plus the fact that if there had been an OP here you would have been kicked and banned after 3 posts [01:25] chou so what do u mean proper english [01:25] ilba7r, ok, I'm out. too tired to google for anything else for now [01:25] Tanya, I believe he means with full words (`you', not `u'), punctuation, etc. === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@58.69.27.135] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] mitch_, fvwm's a pretty nice WM [01:25] Yes. === Arnald [n=Arnald@81-86-116-102.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] yuki u back startin to miss ya [01:25] if you don't mind spending forever configuring it :) [01:25] mitch openbox and fluxbox and enlightenment [01:25] Tanya, I'm always here/ === CaptainMorgan gives fireside a clout round the head with a fresh copy of HydraIRC [01:25] duomaxwell bye man [01:25] always thats some long hours [01:26] can i install those thru the package manager or is that a independent download? [01:26] mitch they are all in ubuntu repos [01:26] Well, not always, but I've not gone away. [01:26] thanks everybody [01:26] whats hydraIRC [01:26] mitch_, hmm. [01:26] mitch_, try looking up ion3. [01:26] ill be online thruout the install, if i have questions.. === otep [n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] Tanya, good question. Sounds like an IRC client [01:27] k , gonna try ctrl --alt f1 soon.. [01:27] I have only 64mb ram on this puter.. so im looking for something that dosent putter [01:27] mitch the lightest is openbox. But need a lot of tweeking [01:27] whats an IRC [01:27] fireside: this is not a social chat channel this is a support channel, people here ask help and others try to reply, but when people take up space by chatting, despite the fact they have been asked not to, is very irrespectful and will earn you a ban as soon as an op gets online. i can guarantee this to you; so you could as well say goodbye now. [01:27] CaptainMorgan, to recover, ctrl-alt-f7 should get you back to X. === ubotflu pours hot grits down the front of fireside's pants, courtesy of hobbsee [01:27] somebody here has got Gmailfs work? [01:27] ilba7r_, lighter than ion3? [01:27] fireside: like i said you can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and there is NO problem, the fact you refuse to is point enough. [01:27] yukikyuta i never tried ion3 [01:27] Tanya, this is IRC here, how we're all talking; Internet Relay Chat. People aren't appreciating that you talk here when others are giving support, however. [01:28] ilba7r_, it's ridiculously light. [01:28] fireside: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic and do the support channel a favour === teasxc [n=teasxc@par69-4-82-226-64-86.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] IT allways seemed for me when people were neglegent to hear what i had to say (offtopic) or not it just made me want to stay and bother everybody more, But like aftertaf and others said about fireside. this is a support channel theres other places to get better attention then in here [01:29] k, nothing worked... [01:29] mitch you will need to look at this forum for openbox === teasxc [n=teasxc@par69-4-82-226-64-86.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:29] yukiyuta might give it a try [01:29] ctraltf1..ctraltf7 nore alt's [01:30] CaptainMorgan: did you hammer on CTL9+ALT+F1 just at the moment when the console bit disappeared? [01:30] indeedd [01:30] wheres the forum? [01:30] (less the 9) [01:30] pressed it very often [01:30] ilba7r_, I'm pretty happy. ion is pretty `esoteric', in that there aren't windows, but everything occupies an entire screen. [01:30] Most of the time. [01:30] fast [01:30] yuki u a sweet person the others however need some manners well im having a little chat and they dont like it whats wrong wiv em anyway nice chattin to ya yuki its a shame i cant see ya u are really sweet [01:30] fireside. were you born completely stupid? [01:31] Tanya, as before, it's not a matter of manners, it's just that this is a channel for *support*, not for *chat*. === mwe [n=mwe@port462.ds1-ynoe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === CaptainMorgan know fireside is some middle aged man with stains on his shirt yelling to ma to get him his meatloaf... [01:31] ion dosent seem like a good choice, i want something usable but not so ram intensive like gnome? would gnome be not working well because i have a celeron? [01:31] There are alternate channels for chatting. === mirak [n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-60-195.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] aftertaf wiv a name like that u were born completly stupid [01:31] mitch_, why doesn't ion seem like a good choice? o_O [01:31] mitch_: what processor wpeed? and how much ram? [01:31] k, why not use live... back up themounted harddrive... ... or what next ? [01:31] fireside: how kindergarten [01:31] yuki i did not catch what u wrote === aftertaf rests my case. [01:32] mitch it is not only a window manager you need also a light file manager nautilus is heavy too [01:32] mitch so perhaps you need rox-filer too its light [01:32] mitch = upgrade :/ [01:33] like a big 2GIG of ram baby - you can do it [01:33] CaptainMorgan: ok, so what do you want to backup? [01:33] come on yuki tell me what u wrote ive gotta go [01:33] Tanya, scroll up; this channel isn't for chatting, in short. That's why people are being rude; they're trying to answer or give support requests, but chat-traffic bogs it down. You can either type `/join #ubuntu-offtopic' to reach a channel to `chat', or you can leave. End of story... [01:33] YukiIkyuta. because i want soemthing that my mom would know how to use to put it bluntly. . Im running 800mhz, celeron, 64mb sd 100, . without spending moeny i think software would do the trick not some hardware [01:33] !topic [01:33] yukiyuta am not using any light windowmanager anymore my hardware is pretty fast that i do not need too anymore [01:33] of course, you can type " /quit #ubuntu " if you wish... [01:33] fireside: of course, you can type " /quit #ubuntu " if you wish... [01:33] dunno... aftertaf.. nothing we try is working.. I do have my data... I back it up... get a copy of breezy... install it and bam.. [01:33] whatcha think ? [01:33] mitch_, okay, that's a very good point! Is xfce really too much? I find that it's rather light. [01:33] Geez, I go away for 5 minutes, peeking and poking with my configuration and when I come back people get stupid... -> fire... [01:33] CaptainMorgan: ok, do it.... [01:34] mitch_, the problem is that most of the easier-to-use window managers (ideal for people like your mom ^^) *are* bigger. [01:34] mitch have you considered daminsmalllinux. The os is only 54 MB [01:34] how i can cancel screensaver ? [01:34] But XFCE should do well on an 800mhz system.. [01:34] lads enjoy ur sciencetific crap === moon [n=moon@113-61.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu === fluvvell [n=barryc@222-152-167-7.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] Is it normal that Kaffeine uses ~10% of cpu power all the time while I listen to a webradio? I have Athlon 2800+. === fireside [n=fireside@84.12.173.231] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Hobbsee sighs in relief - finally! [01:35] fireside: assuming you are 1) able to read more than 3 words that arent in l33t sp3ak shordh4nd, 2) are capable of actually clicking a link and using a web browser.... read this. https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0 applies here [01:35] mitch the problem that firefox for example is resource intensive, openoffice too. so you need a whole light package [01:35] damn! [01:35] Atleast I wouldn't think that it is. [01:35] aftertaf, and to others thank you for the patience, assistance and support... may not have got far but i feel like I we did do some good investigation... oh well, time to cut your losses [01:35] Hahahaha.. [01:35] aftertaf, seemed to miss the hundred or so links to ubunutlinux.org I gave him/her. [01:35] mitch_: gnome is slow when your pc doesnt have a lot of resources.... i use E17 on this one, a P3 500 with 256 ram. [01:35] I think she shoud spend some time enjoying "sciencetific crap". [01:36] well its not to much, but as a computer advociate im allways on the search for more speed. xfce seems to run alot better than gnome, just wanted to know if something would run better then xfce, althouh xfce i dont have much complaints ... Yess i realize firefox takes forever to start, is that maybe because its made for gnome in my ubuntu package.. [01:36] mainly papers on English grammar and spellinh [01:36] spelling* ;P [01:36] how do i change mysql passwd? [01:36] I changed my xorg.conf file and restarted the x-server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace). Apparently, I did something wrong because this crashed the X-server. Now it says I need to restart it GDM when I'm done with configuration. Does anybody know how I can restart GDM? I mean, the right way to do it? Ctrl-Alt-BS doesn't work anymore... [01:36] Chousuke :)!! [01:36] mitch_: i do like e17, even if its not 'finished', nothing rarely Is, and it is very slick and useable. [01:37] alexandre: in console, type sudo /etc/init.d.gdm restart [01:37] mitch that is why i said daminsmalllinux it has the whole package. all are light weight you will feal the deifference and its decent for its speed [01:37] /etc/init.d/gdm * [01:37] thx YukiIkyuta :] [01:37] like i said, if i had my choice i could run my programs out of a console, but my puter needs to be used by the internet by my mom and bro that arnt to computer savy. they need those big (CLICK HERE FOR INTERNET) type things to do any task. HAHA === tibi [n=tibi@86.34.7.219] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] aftertaf: All right! X is back. [01:38] dappper drake sounds interesting... [01:38] Alex: hehe; and in 1024*768? [01:38] ilba7r_ is that a package that my mom would be able to use, or me to set it up that way? [01:38] CaptainMorgan: loooool [01:38] dapper aint stable, [01:38] why is breezy experimental and they're releasing a dapper in april ? [01:38] hi! I've just updated my ubuntu (dapper) and now X won't start, something about glib [01:38] 4 days without X [01:38] aftertaf: nope. [01:38] is breezy stable? [01:38] CaptainMorgan: breezy aint experimental, its allegedly stable. dapper is the unstable one [01:38] mitch it is a whole distribution that aquire only 54 MB. and it includes anything you might need [01:38] ah... === rizla [n=rizla@adsl-ull-123-229.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] alexandre: and the resolution changer wont let you change to it? [01:39] but hoary and hedgehog are he confirmed stable.... ? [01:39] mitch_: enable X autologin and put something this in .xinitrc: fluxbox & firefox & ;) [01:39] "allegedly stable" lol [01:39] aftertaf: I just restored the backup I had made of xorg.conf before x crashed. [01:39] or well [01:39] CaptainMorgan: hoary Is hedgehog. [01:39] a webbrowser, wm (fluxbox in this case) a wordprocessor and even ftp server [01:39] I'd like to try a different driver instead of nvidia, how can I configure X from command line? [01:39] Alex: ok... [01:39] that doesn't work if she closes firefox. === avb [n=avb@81.25.40.45] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] aftertaf: When it crashed it said I used "subsection" in a place I wasn't supposed to. So I'll start over. [01:39] a little off topic, but are there any X.org 7.0 RC dep packages available [01:39] tibi: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you change the driver line === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] aftertaf, what's wrong with no X? ^^; === rizla [n=rizla@adsl-ull-123-229.41-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu [] [01:40] netventure: dapper is in xorg7 i believe [01:40] YukiIkyuta: for me, not much, i can get by in cli [01:40] Exactly! === MickMcMack [n=mick@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/MickMcMack] has joined #ubuntu === btdown [n=btdown@66.89.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === moon [n=moon@113-61.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu ["Quitte"] [01:40] alexandre: ok..... === chaumurky [n=mainacco@203-214-141-96.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] aftertaf: I updated my sources.lst and pointed to dapper, but it semed to pick up the 6.8.2:77 packages for updates [01:41] if i do a search in synaptic for "Window Manager" will i get others beside gnome or xfce, with universe enabled ? === albacker [n=eni@customer-side2-telecomalbania.atnet.com.al] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] enlightenment openbox blackbox are some of the few you will pick up [01:41] mitch there are too many of them lol === mikhail^ [n=dean@210.213.150.3] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:42] does anyone have a fool proof.. and/or working madwifi step by step instruction set..? I tried to follow the newmadwifi instructions, but it said If I don' tave the latest kernel... well basically I was SOL, that's what tempted me to go for the breeze [01:42] Got a question on how to update the SunJRE..I have update 5 installed but see there's a update 6 out (on seveas). When i try to update from Seveas, it 403 Forbiddens. Could I just update from Sun, would it screw anytihng up? [01:42] netventure: checkong... [01:42] damn www.debian-administration.org is still down [01:42] btdown: the last I checked, you needed to make the deb package for Java [01:43] what im gonna do is install a few and see which ones are the best for the tasks i do, (internet browse, chat, stupid programs) one more question, ONce i find the window manager i like will uninstalling packages like gnome or xfce affect my windowmanger that i chose? [01:43] btdown i installed from sun but it needs some tweeking === chaumurky checks google cache... [01:43] mitch_, I reccomend blackbox. [01:43] Ah ok. I'll wait then...Im lacking in the tweaking dept. ;) [01:43] btdown: needs youto download the JDK/JRE separately and alao get some apps from synaptic/debian repos [01:44] netventure: ok.... yeah it is. want to tarball it ? :] [01:44] mitch uninstalling xfce is not a problem. I do not know about gnome for it is in ubuntu-desktop and might affect your updates [01:44] Thanks. I'll have to find another repo that has it. I think you need an account on seveas to dl it. === longe [n=longe@softbank219002068076.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] alexandre: on the line Modes "800x600", add "1024x768" before the 800*600 bit. === MaFiaBoY [n=_mfb@dyn-213-36-161-181.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] aftertaf: er.. did'nt really get you? did you mean getting the .deb's? [01:45] alexandre: look which mode is the default one and add this to that mode subsection [01:45] btdown all you need is some symbolick links look at the forums for it [01:45] netventure: nah, the .tar.gz ;) it isnt yet 7.0, i just thought it was... [01:45] ilba7r: Ok thanks. Im off to check ;) [01:46] thanks ilba7r i mean i have a good amount of hd space (30gb) so i dont mind having to leave gnome in there sitting arround i just dont want to run into probelms ive only been running linux for a week , (im and ax Microsoftie) [01:46] atf: I have the 7.0 RC3 tarballs, thanks though [01:46] good luck than mitch_ [01:46] mitch_: what is your pc specs? [01:46] aftertaf, 800mhz. [01:46] 64MiB RMA. === olicat [n=phendric@host81-138-210-156.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu === ardchoille [n=ardchoil@unaffiliated/ardchoille] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] RAM* [01:46] ok, and 64m ram? ouch === ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@addr-193-167-148-174.dyn.oamk.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] hojohojo [01:47] SD 100 RAM at that. [01:47] ubuntu__, johojojo? [01:47] with e17 itll be fast, until you try to load any application ... :/ [01:47] linux rules [01:47] ubuntu__, we all agree. [01:47] aftertaf: I just did. I actually did it too all the lines (replaced "800x600" with "1024x768" "800x600" to avoid typos). It doesn't change anything. In the resolution applet, I only get 800x600 and 640x480... [01:47] aftertaf , im running 800mhz celeron, 64mb ram, 30gb harddrive, Blazzing fast cable connection. [01:48] aft: ran into compilation issues with X7.0 RC3, not able to figure out, so was looking for the .deb's [01:48] alexandre: you'll need tor estart x again... [01:48] netventure: what was the error? === Sonderblade [n=muh@213.131.147.169] has joined #ubuntu === mz2_ [i=mz2@ZYYYMMDCCLXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu === zoyd [n=vinay@220.225.32.98] has left #ubuntu ["http://vinaypawar.com/blog/"] [01:49] aftertaf: I was building with the script from the X.org site [01:49] aftertaf: I already did "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (twice even) [01:49] afttertaf: encparse.c:52: error: parse error before "FontFilePtr" [01:49] I was running 64+32 mb ram but the 32mb chip died on me thats why i been running into these ram hog program problems [01:49] alexandre: weird...... [01:49] aftertaf: occurrend when compiling libfontenc [01:49] netventure: anyone in #xorg ? [01:50] mitch_: www.ebay.com [01:50] :] [01:50] haha [01:50] aftertaf: did'nt check, will headthere === ldy [n=ldy@221.218.139.204] has joined #ubuntu === allorder [n=kwad@67.71.171.144] has joined #ubuntu === tino [n=tino@a140174.upc-a.chello.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:50] mitch_ have a look at this http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ [01:50] I switched to linux because it was free, went with ubuntu because it was free, im not gonna put anymoney into this old computer. theres no need, theres ways around my problem without hardware [01:51] thanks for the link ilba7r_ checking it out now === thisfred [n=thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Madeye [n=Jad@86.108.20.122] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] i mounted my linux partion to /media/lda2 in Live... it's a lot of data.. alot that I don't have enough dvd's for.. how can I temporarily store in Win and reaccess it later? [01:51] aftertaf: thanks for your help and patience so far. I'll keep trying. [01:52] sudo mount /media/lda2 /dev/(Win)/tempstorage/ ? [01:52] captainmorgan i guess your win is ntfs right [01:52] yep [01:52] captainmorgan if so you might run to some prob [01:52] mitch_ windowmaker works quite well for low memory [01:52] Knight_Lord thanks [01:53] captainmorgan i would never recommend writing to ntfs === anatole [n=ZOMG@dsl5400A06B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] alexandre: you could also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specify 1024*768 ;) [01:53] if you have another partition than write to it [01:53] k [01:54] !cigarette [01:54] It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same... Here dude, have a light :) [01:54] command for checking the amount of data the mounted partition? === rosen [n=rosendah@cpe.atm2-0-5532.0x50a08dca.arcnxx17.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] CaptainMorgan: df -h [01:54] CaptainMorgan: if it's just the data you're after you can backup the /home directory only [01:54] aaah ... back with a clean install :) [01:55] redguy. well I wanted some user settings too.. in xorg, etc, var/ urs [01:55] etc [01:55] What Is Ubuntu DVD , i mean what's on it did someone try it ? === BockBilbo [n=Bock@eu85-84-43-70.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] how do I check the amount of the /home directory ? [01:55] hey === thomas [n=thomas@port-212-202-201-191.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] aftertaf: that sounds interesting. I'm trying right now. [01:56] CaptainMorgan: sudo du -sh /home [01:56] i think there is a problem with the vesafb kernel module and reiserfs [01:56] dose anyone have the Ubuntu DVD ? [01:56] anyone knows something about that? [01:56] after updating my dapper, I get a bunch of ugly errors from perl/debconf/gtk, so I can't reconfigure my X, or start it [01:57] tibi, why are you using dapper? [01:57] it is unstable [01:57] cuz dapper sounds cool [01:57] egytrack: I always thought that the DVD is the live CD and install CD combined together [01:57] BockBilbo: for fun and profit :) [01:57] tooo unstable [01:57] oh... so whatever [01:57] xD === DRAGON_Ultra [n=DRAGON_U@adsl-70-232-60-5.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu === einPaule [n=paul@dslb-084-061-036-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] redguy - that command produced an inaccurate result... no way that's right [01:57] BockBilbo: so I should go back to breezy? [01:58] tibi, i would [01:58] redguy|work , so what's on the DVD ? [01:58] I like being on bleeding edge (when it works) === weissi [n=yc@p549FFD28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] i usually switch to the unstable version one month before the final release [01:58] why ? [01:58] by that time the stability is much higher [01:58] when's dapper to be released? [01:58] april 06 [01:58] april 2006 [01:58] CaptainMorgan: huh? how do you know that's not right? [01:59] no fun till then? :( [01:59] well === looksaus [n=mark@233.246-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] redguy|work , what you found on the DVD ? [01:59] i bet youll have much fun if you install it now [01:59] xD [01:59] 212k in home.. I know I have more than that in home [01:59] lol [01:59] for sure [01:59] egytrack: I didn't use it. I don't have it. [02:00] CaptainMorgan: you are on the live cd, right? [02:00] more like 14 gigs in home alone === Tuntis [n=Tuntis@adsl-85-217-17-47.kotinet.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] you told me that you " thought that the DVD is the live CD and install CD combined together " [02:00] yep [02:00] is there a suggested way to sync Evolution calendar, tasks and mail for a really small office with basicly 1 laptop and 1 desktop to sync? [02:00] BockBilbo: I've upgraded from breezy, it's my main working station [02:00] but im in the /home mounted dir [02:00] CaptainMorgan: sudo du -sh === soudk [n=soudk@naax.erasme.org] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] Guys what's on the DVD Then .. there is no info about that ?! [02:00] tibi bad idea [02:00] d'oh === sauron_the_mad [i=daemon@81-223-23-116.goesting.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C18307.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] aftertaf: We've made progress there!! I got it to 1024x768@60Hz... [02:01] if you want to try out dapper, you should use a secondary computer === PsyberOne [n=psyber@c-24-14-165-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === walkingice [n=walkingi@220-132-63-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] BockBilbo: or a chroot would do === shaa-gi [n=shaggy@cpe-66-68-32-156.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] egytrack: yes, that's what I told you. Does that imply that I *know* what is on the DVD? === ardzeii [n=Schildkr@210.213.78.94] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] hello ppl! how do i make vcl the standardplayer? === blizzkid [n=blizzkid@dD5E0C219.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] redguy|work , nvm === ardzeii is now known as rraajj === Syrus [n=syrus@ip-193-153.net-193.dhcp.soton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu === linuxgeek79 [n=linuxgee@59.92.137.89] has joined #ubuntu === Zdra [n=zdra@70-188.247.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] why no body answer me then ... and tell me what's on the dvd no body try it ? [02:03] or no body have it ? [02:03] BockBilbo: I've changed in source.list from dapper to breezy, ran apt-get update, but apt-get dist-upgrade says there are no packages to install. What should I do? === ejofee [n=ejofee@195-245-89-185.dtcom.ro] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] Anyone knows if something like BluePhoneElite exists for linux? [02:03] how do i query an installed deb for wherever its files are? === gandalf [n=gandalf@5.Red-213-96-254.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] ejofee: dpkg -L [02:04] ejofee;: dpkg -L [02:04] dooglus: thank you === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1A98F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === aufsaufbremse [n=christia@p508F31CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] why keep ignore me guys ?!! [02:05] dooglus, weissi: what if i am not so sure about the exact name of the package, either? it seems dpkg doesn't support regexp or * [02:05] egytrack: if anyone knows, they'll answer [02:05] ejofee: dpkg -l will list installed packages [02:06] egytrack: what was the asnwer? [02:06] egytrack: what was your question? [02:06] dooglus: thank you [02:06] egytrack, I have downloaded and burned the DVD, and it seemed to me to be the exact same thing as the liveCD .. but then I'm a noob (wich is why I didnt answer) [02:06] tibi if I remember correctly, synaptic/apt upgrades based on actual package version thus breezy packages will have lower versions than dapper so nothing will be marked to update === BdGraue [n=bdgraue@85.16.83.123] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] where french ubuntu irc ??? [02:07] one of the weakness' of apt is rollbacks are fairly difficult [02:07] ejofee: this will give a better list of packages installed: COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' [02:07] hello, any german here? or a german ubuntu-channel available? [02:07] tibi, thats obvious === bulio|lap [n=bulio|la@unaffiliated/bulio] has joined #ubuntu [02:07] anyone know of a fast mirror for ubuntu 5.04? [02:07] ejofee: try e.g. `dpkg -l mozilla-fi\* | grep "^ii"` [02:08] i think you cannot downgrade to hoary from breezy === _smd_ [n=shea@wnpgmb09dc1-91-86.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:08] I'm not [02:08] I burned 3 CDs of 5.10 [02:08] all gave me debootstrap errors [02:08] maybe someone here knows how to do it, but i think it is impossible [02:08] you should reinstall hoary from the begining [02:08] from what I've read to get back to breezy outside of a very painstaking dpkg -i --force-all