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BenCany chance of there being enough time for a -X.11 kernel upload before flight 2 cd's are ready?03:05
jbaileyBenC: You might want to try a nick highlight for him.03:07
jbaileyUnless you're trying to hide to avoid him killing you for the thought. =)03:07
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BenCKamion: ping03:08
KamionBenC: hey - what's the issue? I was about to build images like *right now*03:09
Kamionif it's not world-shattering-kills-babies I'd prefer not03:09
BenCnah, go ahead03:10
BenCI didn't want to stall the build, but if it was going to be > 24 hours, I was going to try to get another kernel out03:10
Kamionah, no, I want to do the builds now and if possible test a few before crashing, then release in the morning03:13
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Kamionjust waiting for this cron.daily to finish so that I have an xserver-xorg-driver-via that works on my i386 test laptop, and then I'll start03:13
BenCok03:18
BenCwill there be some place I can download these from before morning?03:18
BenCand is ppc expected to work?03:18
Kamionhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/03:19
Kamionpowerpc should work, modulo any screwups in the fixes lamont and I hacked together earlier03:19
KamionI'll try to check powerpc before crashing03:20
Kamionnote that the new live CD is very light on feedback as it's booting, for the moment03:21
Kamionit'll eventually use usplash but at the moment there's a long period of no output03:21
Kamionand then some fun slews of kernel traces :)03:22
BenCis there a faster place to get it from? :)03:25
BenCI'm only get like 5-8k/sec from there03:26
BenCkernel traces are from unionfs?03:26
Kamionthink so, and no, no faster place03:27
Kamionif you keep up to date fairly regularly then you can rsync03:27
Kamioncdimage.ubuntu.com::cdimage/daily-live/current/dapper-live-powerpc.iso etc.03:27
Kamionboth the install and live CDs are fairly well rsyncable03:28
Kamionwell, actually, you could try some of the ones on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive03:29
Kamionnot many people mirror all of cdimage though03:29
Kamionmostly those are just releases.u.c mirrors03:30
fabbioneKamion: i just tested rescue with the latest installer.. i still can't get to it. It appears something broke it08:13
fabbioneand yes, rescue/enable is set to true08:14
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fabbioneKamion: never mind.. it still misses the rescue udeb08:29
fabbione(in the build)08:30
fabbionebut i didn't bother to check it, because iirc you said that it was on the list of fixed stuff... i might be 100% wrong tho :)08:31
KamionCD install?09:31
infinity'Morning, Kamion.09:33
infinityHow did your battles go last night?09:33
KamionGAH THREE HOURS SLEEP09:33
infinityDude.09:33
infinityBack.  To.  Bed.09:33
Kamioncan't, wife needs me to drive her and child to school09:34
Mithrandiryeah, get back to bed.09:34
Kamion(grr)09:34
Mithrandirdrive, then bed.09:34
infinityGive keys to wife.09:34
infinityBed.09:34
Kamionwill be awake by then, no point09:34
Mithrandiror taxi.09:34
Kamionshe can't drive yet09:34
Kamionimage candidates are up, please test them :)09:34
fabbioneKamion: nah never mind me please.. it is still the monolith build.. it doesn't pull in the rescue-mode udeb and i forgot to add it manually.09:34
infinityNo time for testing right now, I'm pitti's bitch today.09:34
fabbioneKamion: it also asks for casper-checks (that i had to remove from the list)09:34
infinityWhen he's done with me, you can have me back, though.09:34
Kamioncasper-check will disappear soon09:35
fabbioneKamion: downloading images as we speak09:35
MithrandirKamion: just the daily-live/current, right?09:35
fabbioneKamion: yup.. no problem.. i just killed it.. i don't need it at all for rescue testing09:35
KamionMithrandir: yes09:35
infinityKamion : Are you expecting to want buildd response time and CPU power over the next day?09:41
infinityKamion : I assumed yes, hence I've been holding off on doing anything like mass-give-backs.09:41
MithrandirKamion: /scripts/casper is not in the initramfs, at least for amd64.09:52
Mithrandirso, "completely broken"09:52
infinityMy fault, or yours?09:54
Mithrandiryours, most likely.09:56
infinityLIES.09:56
Mithrandirroot@xoog:/$ dpkg -l casper09:57
MithrandirNo packages found matching casper.09:57
Mithrandircasper is not installed in the image at all09:57
infinityOh, then that livecd was built using an old livefs cloop.09:57
Mithrandirquite conceivably.09:57
infinityLet me just check recent logs and make sure casper's definitely in there now.09:58
infinityErr, oh.09:59
Mithrandirplease do.09:59
Mithrandircan you kick off live cd builds too?09:59
infinityYeah, but.  No one re-uploaded *-meta after Colin seeded casper, I bet.09:59
infinityAnd the build process uses the metapackages, not the seeds directly.09:59
Mithrandirok, he should be back in a bit anyway.10:00
Mithrandirwell, off to work.10:00
MithrandirKamion: shouldn't the disc label include something like "prerelease" and not just be "Ubuntu 6.04"?10:05
Kamioninfinity: I thought casper had been added in manually10:12
KamionMithrandir: yes10:13
KamionI thought it said "Alpha" somewhere10:13
Kamioninfinity: -live isn't sufficient because that doesn't affect the base livefs10:13
infinityKamion : Looks like lamont added it to "base" (the one place where seeds can't help, cause there's no "base-live" metapackage), but not to the other builds.10:13
Kamionoh, sigh, do I really have to upload ubuntu-meta?10:14
infinityOf course, ubuntu-live-base (which all live images could include) would work... Or I can just put it in manually.  I don't care.10:14
Kamionif you could grit your teeth and hardcode it just for today I'd really appreciate it10:14
infinityOh, I'll just hardcode it for now.10:14
Kamionthanks10:14
infinityNo big deal.10:14
infinityJust thinking out loud about the most "elegant" solution for later.10:14
infinityI'll hardcode it and kick off builds momentarily.10:14
infinityIf "ubuntu-base-live" would be nothing but casper, may as well unseed it from all the live seeds, and I'll just leave it hardcoded.10:18
infinityOh baz, why do you hate me so?10:21
infinityKamion : New builds kicked off.10:24
Kamionthanks10:30
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Kamioninfinity: livefses seem to have built - all ok?11:30
infinityNo... I'll need to re-do a few. :/11:31
Kamionoh, which broke?11:32
infinityOh, feh.  lamont's hack to copy multiple nitrds out for architectures with more than one broke.11:33
infinitySo powerpc is broken.11:33
infinityWell, the extracted initrd is "broken", the cloop is fine.11:33
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Kamionthat was my hack ...11:35
Kamionwhat's wrong with the initrds? they looked OK last night11:35
infinityOh, the nyour hack was wrong. :)11:35
Kamiondoesn't surprise me11:36
infinityUgh.  Bear with me.  Wireless is acting up.11:38
infinityln: creating symbolic link `livecd.kubuntu.initrd' to `livecd.kubuntu.initrd-powerpc\n2.6.15-8-powerpc64-smp': File exists11:38
infinityOh, that's proabbly harmelss.11:38
infinityharmless too.11:38
infinityAssuming the two got copied out, the link logic is just broken.11:38
infinityOf ocurse, it trips the set -e11:39
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infinityDo you care about base images?11:39
infinityi386/base failed cause it ran during cron.daily.11:40
infinitySame with i386/edubuntu.11:40
infinityI'll re-run both of those.11:40
infinityAnd fix up powerpc and re-run it.11:40
Kamion    if [ "${KVERS% *}" = "$KVERS" ] ; then11:41
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Kamionbase> no11:41
Kamionedubuntu> yes11:41
infinityYou were too late.  Ran both.11:41
infinityBase is fast anyway.11:41
Kamionah, I see, not a space, a newline11:42
infinity<nod>11:42
infinityHow do you split on newline in shell?11:42
infinity\n?11:43
KamionNUMKVERS="$(set -- $KVERS; echo $#)"11:43
Kamionif [ "$NUMKVERS" = 1 ] ; then11:43
Kamioneasiest to just let the shell do it like that11:43
Kamion(tested better this time)11:44
infinityOkay, powerpc running gain.11:49
infinityagain, too.11:49
infinitySo, right now, ubuntu and kubuntu should be a go on i386/amd6411:54
infinityWaiting on edubuntu for i386/amd64, and all 3 for powerpc.11:54
Kamion*/amd64 has to wait for my new gfxboot-theme-ubuntu to hit the archive, otherwise rescue mode is broken11:55
infinityI really wish these machines had faster disks...12:07
Mithrandiror just a huge ramdisk.12:13
MithrandirAWTY?  As in, any images I can test, yet?12:13
Kamionhmm, I can probably build a subset and build amd64 later12:15
Kamionexcept even Ubuntu/powerpc isn't done yet12:16
infinityIt's clooping it right now.12:16
infinity(powerpc/ubuntu, that is)12:16
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HiddenWolfinfinity, there is a solution where you put an extention card on your ide controller and fill the card with ram. PC will then see the ram as a harddisk,12:18
HiddenWolfinfinity, perhaps worth consideration.12:18
infinity...12:18
MithrandirHiddenWolf: it's slow-ish, though.12:18
infinityThat's way too much effort. :)12:18
HiddenWolfMithrandir, slower than flash, faster than hdd's12:19
infinityRAM disks would be best, except we don't have enough RAM in these boxes to shuffle around 2 gig images.12:19
Kamioninfinity: whoa, why is it publishing livecd.* (base, edubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu) under /LiveCD/dapper/ubuntu/?12:19
infinity...12:20
Kamionhttp://royal.buildd/~buildd/LiveCD/dapper/ubuntu/20051214.3/12:20
infinityBecause something, or someone, is special.12:21
Kamionanyway, i386/powerpc building12:21
MithrandirHiddenWolf: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/07/can_gigabyte/12:21
infinityOr, specifically, royal is special?12:22
Mithrandirthey only get 100MB/sec or so out of it, which is silly12:22
=== infinity scratches his head.
Mithrandirthe latency is excellent, though12:22
infinityKamion : Oh, wait.  I know.  That's the script not cleaning up after itself, cause it SO doesn't expect to fail where we had it failing.12:24
infinityKamion : So, on the next run, when it blindly does "mv livecd.*", it got all the old images from the previous runs.  I'll just delete them.12:24
Kamionhah, ok12:25
Kamionta12:25
infinityThere.  Like it never happened.12:25
infinityI guess that script needs a trap and a cleanup. :)12:26
infinityYup, definitely need some cleanup there.12:30
infinityOr to never, ever fail in that spot, ever again.12:31
KamionMithrandir: try i386 or powerpc now12:32
MithrandirENPOWERPC, but I'm pulling the i386 image now.12:32
Mithrandirwill take a while, though, as I don't have a fresh one around12:33
Kamioninfinity: how're the other builds going?01:31
infinityIt's all done, except for powerpc/base.01:31
infinitySo, if you're not building base images, you're good to go.01:31
infinitypowerpc/base will be done shortly anyway.01:32
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BenCKamion: flight2 ppc64 booted fine on my G510:38
Kamiongreat, thanks10:39
BenCI did have one oops from the vfs (guess it was unionfs related)10:39
BenCand on shutdown/reboot it oopses again on unmount, and locks up10:39
Kamionmm I noticed that too10:43
BenCdoesn't do that on i386?10:53
Mithrandirit oopses a bit, but copes.10:53
BenCsounds the same as my boot on ppc6410:53
MithrandirBenC: look at it as motivation to fix the bugs.10:53
Mithrandir:-)10:53
BenCif only it looked easily traceable :)10:54
BenCthe oops is in the vfs, so I have to trace it into unionfs10:54
Mithrandirit's easily reproducable, at least.10:54
BenCgot a repo case I can do on an existing install?10:54
BenCrepro10:54
Mithrandirno, I haven't had the time to track it down, I just see it happens on each and every live cd boot10:55
BenCnew version of unionfs, I'll try that first :)10:59
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NafalloKeybuk: hey! will we see streamlined boot soon or do you need someone to test it first? :-)11:57
Keybukyes, was waiting for Flight 211:57
Keybuknow I can do it while Colin sleeps for the rest of the week <g>11:57
Nafallohehe, nice :-)11:58
Nafallowill be in queue though :-P11:59
=== Nafallo bets daniels xorg still builds on all arches ;-)
Keybukqueue?11:59
Nafallobuildqueue :-)11:59
Keybuksure, but that don't take long11:59
Nafalloif you say so :-)12:00

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