[12:03] ? [12:03] jcole: we've never supported Ubuntu floppy installs because we've never managed to make them fit [12:03] jcole: I believe some people have got them to work using Smart Boot Manager [12:04] (and chaining to a CD install, though - dunno if it's possible with no CD-ROM at all, whether you can e.g. boot from a netboot image somewhere) [12:05] Kamion: oh ok... it doesn't have to fit on just one floppy... it could be 10 floppies, lol... as long as i can get ubuntu on it through the floppy drive (and ethernet connection) [12:06] yeah, I know, but when the kernel doesn't fit on a floppy it just gets tedious [12:07] ah, it does actually fit, it was probably another problem [12:07] at any rate I could not make even the boot floppy fit [12:07] Kamion: ah, ic... how does redhat/fedora do it? [12:08] are there any easy way to remove a lot of duplicate files in a directory? [12:08] Kamion: i've got fedora on it right now [12:08] Simira, #ubuntu might know [12:08] elmo: please sync php4-mcrypt php4-ps from debian unstable (ubuntu override okey), thanks :-) === daniels [n=daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] Simira: Mithrandir might know :-) [12:10] (or should) ;-) === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] Nafallo : he's out beering with a friend. I am all alone tonight. [12:11] Simira: hehe, call him then? don't take his word on rm -f * though :-P [12:12] :p [12:12] Kamion: i created a "Kickstart" floppy with their gui software === storm [i=joel@201.21.208.17] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:12] good night everybody [12:12] Nafallo : he won't be any good now, anyway. I just did it manually. For some reason, my mail setup failed to sort out my mail, and downloaded everything from one of my accounts [12:12] and I just realized I probably got all the lists as well... #%!#&" [12:13] Simira: oh, sounds like joy :-) [12:13] dholbach: gnight :-) [12:14] <\sh> jcole: doesn't download the kickstart floppy all stuff from the net? [12:15] jcole: I thought their floppy install used a rather older kernel === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:15] like, 2.4 only or something [12:16] I'm familiar with kickstart (implemented it for our installer) but that's somewhat orthogonal [12:16] \sh Kamion: i used this ---> http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/redhat-config-kickstart.html [12:16] yes, I'm familiar with it, it's irrelevant to floppy support [12:17] I'll give floppy d-i builds another go at some point, see if I can make them work [12:17] you could do a netboot install [12:18] Fedora use a totally different installer so techniques tend not to be easily portable === ozamosi [n=nnnnnnnn@h235n2c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] (with a PXE etherboot floppy from rom-o-matic.net if your NIC doesnt support netbooting) [12:18] Kamion: is there still some GNOME issue for the CD? [12:18] that tactic can work too if you have a handy server you can make be a TFTP/DHCP server [12:19] ogra: that's an idea [12:19] seb128: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/dapper_probs.html still lists brokenness [12:20] Kamion: evolution has built, evolution-exchange needs a retry when it's available, nautilus-cd-burner Depends on cdrdao which has been accepted for promotion according to pitti's comment on the wiki page I guess somebody should promote it, nautilus-sendto ditto with gnome-bluetooth [12:20] seb128: I've just given-back evolution-exchange, which should help a bit [12:20] ok, I'll have a look through the promotion queue, thanks [12:21] np [12:21] Mithrandir: here? [12:23] Mithrandir: your casper upload was rejected due to distribution=unstable [12:25] Kamion : he's out beering [12:27] Simira: hopefully he won't mind if I fix it and upload for him, then [12:27] Kamion : I guess not === Kamion fishes it out of queue/reject/ [12:29] Kamion ogra: thanks, i'm going to attempt the PXE boot solution... have a good day [12:30] jcole, good luck :) === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] somebody familiar with libapt-pkg ? [12:37] my problem: does it allow to select which "cache" an application wants to use ? [12:37] I'd like to do what apt-rdepends do one a Packages file I just download manually, for example Debian's one. [12:37] s/one a Packages file/on a Packages file/ === lucas would prefer to avoid having to understand the whole apt source code ;) [12:39] elmo: please sync linuxdcpp from debian unstable (ubuntu override okey), thanks :-) === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] lucas: apt supports various configuration options to change where it gets files, including that sort of thing (you'd have to construct a temporary sources.list, point it at that with a temporary cache, and update); see apt.conf(5) [12:46] yup, that's what I was reading [12:46] what's your opinion about python-apt ? [12:46] does it include everything apt supports ? === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-072-116.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] or should I go directly with C++ ? [12:47] I don't have an "opinion" about it; I use it from time to time, seems fine [12:47] ok [12:47] it's probably a hell of a lot easier than using C++ [12:47] the apt_pkg module is closer to the C++ interface, but less pythonic [12:47] there's a new apt module in recent python-apt which I'm told is more pythonic, but I've never used that [12:48] the apt module seems very far from being complete [12:48] lucas, but what you try to do sounds a bit like what gdebi does already ... [12:48] ogra: mmh, not sure [12:49] probably wotrh a look at its source ... [12:49] ogra: can you explain ? [12:49] its the one click deb installer from mvo ... [12:50] ah, it uses python-apt [12:50] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/bzr/gdebi--main/ [12:51] there are a lot of examples provided with python-apt, but none of them covers changing the configuration to download the pkg lists elsewhere, etc [12:52] infinity, lamont-away: please requeue gjdoc (on all archs) === McFergus [n=frg@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-137-250.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Go] === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] ah ah, very cool [01:07] using the -o option of apt-*, it's very easy to fetch & debian's apt files on ubuntu [01:14] infinity, lamont-away: please give-back evolution-sharp, thanks :) === MacFergus [n=frg@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johnl [n=johnl@cpc2-leds4-5-1-cust127.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:25] hey, I tested the new 2.6.15 kernel on my breezy box [01:26] opened a pandoras box of shit [01:28] it's not so much the kernel, which worked on one box, it's more about trying to go back to the old breezy kernel [01:29] jdub, what is the status with planet ubuntu and synching? [01:29] johnl: old kernel should work as long as you don't update the old initrd with new udev [01:29] firmware won't load now for my ipw2200, /dev/input missing, synaptics driver not working [01:29] well, then there's that too [01:29] yeah, there's not much for partial upgrades at this point [01:29] you go, or you don't, there's no middle :) [01:30] GO! [01:30] doh. [01:30] dude, you're testing dapper: this is no holding back time [01:30] new udev, minus hotplug, just isn't breezy friendly [01:30] thing is, now I've completely moved back to breezy, downgraded back to breezy packages and it's still dead [01:30] reinstall hotplug (I noticed the new udev is doing that now) [01:30] install hotplug [01:31] I mean, I have done :) [01:31] sorry, we don't support downgrading :) [01:31] and dpkg-reconfigure'd the kernel image [01:31] ok, fair enough [01:31] oh, that was a bad idea [01:32] tbh, I've got a pretty good handle on how all this usually works, but I'm stumped on this [01:32] just wonder if I've run into other, as yet undiscovered problems [01:32] I know this isn't #ubuntu :) [01:32] sorry [01:32] johnl, i guess #ubuntu, forums or a reinstall are the best options [01:33] infinity, lamont-away: ping [01:33] ok, thanks anyway guys :( [01:33] installing with dpkg --force-confmiss might help, there's a lot of stuff in /etc [01:33] yeah, especially hotplug [01:34] Kamion: ah yeah, that might explain the missing hotplug init scripts :) === McFergus [n=frg@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:34] cool, I'll give that a go on them all [01:34] nice one [01:34] anywhere I can see if a package is in p-a-s? [01:35] on hotplug I used dpkg --unpack, and manually mv'ed the initscripts back into place, hehe [01:35] argh [01:35] don't do that [01:35] at least use dpkg --configure afterwards if you do [01:35] didn't know about force-confmiss [01:35] ah, I just apt-get install --reinstalled after :) [01:36] ok, I'm on it now. ta [01:37] infinity, lamont-away: unping === mjr_ [i=mjr@aulis.sange.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:47] ok, {ubuntu,edubuntu}-desktop should be installable again in about half an hour [01:53] yay [01:58] Kamion: anything I can do to be useful today? === johnl [n=johnl@cpc2-leds4-5-1-cust127.leed.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === johnl [n=johnl@cpc2-leds4-5-1-cust127.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] daniels, fix the trident driver ? [02:01] daniels, btw,nv works fine for thin clients, it seems to be driver specific [02:02] daniels: rebuild openal to get rid of libsmpeg0c2? ;-) [02:02] daniels: xserver-xorg-driver-via FTBFS which I suspect is what's breaking my test laptop (#20191) [02:03] daniels: I'll fix that one if you like since I've got the hardware here [02:03] daniels, aother thing i (and mdz as well) would really apreciate (not today though) would be if you could take a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/fixes/debian/ltsp-client.ltsp-client-setup.init and tell us what can and wat cant work at all from the debconf preseeding we do for xorg ... [02:04] seems the majority of options is ignored ... :/ [02:06] daniels: GL/glxint.h includes GL/gl.h; would the best way to fix the via FTBFS be to make x11proto-gl-dev depend on mesa-common-dev? [02:06] hm, or possibly mesa-common-dev | libgl1-dev [02:06] ogra: what's wrong with trident, again? [02:07] daniels, i filed you a bug some days ago ... [02:07] Kamion: needs a dep on libgl1-mesa-dev | libgl1-dev [02:07] havent gotten around to debug more yet ... [02:07] Kamion: m-c-d isn't a libgl1-dev alternative [02:07] ok - it's what provides GL/gl.h which is why I mentioned it [02:07] its not important for life, Kamion has priority in any case here [02:08] Kamion: want me to do that now? [02:08] Kamion: (or you can if you like) [02:08] daniels: yeah, if you would [02:08] Kamion: coming right up [02:09] uploaded === stub [i=stub@sweep.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] Kamion: anything else? :) [02:13] daniels: oh, why in via rather than in the package containing the include file? === robertj [n=som@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] that's all I have for now since my test laptop works once I build that package for it [02:13] ogra: 20563> without a backtrace, there's really nothing at all I can do [02:13] Kamion: mumble build loops mumble depends wrong way up the chain mumble handave mumble [02:14] heh [02:14] 'handwave', even [02:14] oh, right, forgot that mesa build-depended on x11proto-gl-dev [02:14] lucky I didn't try to fix it :) [02:14] heh [02:18] daniels: anastacia wants to demote xdmx-tools and xserver-xorg-input-magictouch; should they be seeded or demoted? [02:18] Kamion: demote and seed respectively === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:18] actually probably seed both [02:19] I just demoted xdmx-tools after noting that xdmx was in universe [02:19] I can put it back [02:19] oh [02:19] if xdmx is in universe, then -tools should be too [02:19] well, it's in universe because it isn't seeded :) [02:20] I personally don't care either way [02:20] hmm, none of the other xserver-xorg-* are seeded [02:20] demote it for now, I'll deal with it later [02:20] perhaps this one should be added as a dependency somewhere [02:20] demote> done [02:21] hm, if anastacia wants to kick it out, then I'd imagine it needs to be a dependency of xserer-xorg [02:21] i'll fix that when I get around to making the first xorg upload for dapper [02:21] that would do, thanks [02:21] no rush [02:22] daniels: didn't you upload that first thing when dapper was opened? ;-) [02:22] Nafallo: the 'xorg' source package has never been uploaded to dapper [02:22] right now, it still wants to build the entire monolith [02:22] Kamion: ta [02:22] daniels: ah, oki :-) === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] luckily either our configuration infrastructure isn't screwed, or people aren't complaining about it being screwed [02:25] hehe [02:35] gah, fixed it. after all that, it was just symlinks missing in /etc/udev/rules.d [02:36] no amount of reinstalling udev or hotplug packages caused those to be recreated. strangely [02:36] not even udev.rules was symlinked. [02:41] nnight folks. thanks again === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C18307.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] elmo: please sync php4-interbase from debian unstable (ubuntu override okey), thanks :-) === ikuyaLoqu [n=ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F56C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ispiked [n=ispiked@unaffiliated/ispiked] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === [g2] [n=Tom@nslu2-linux/g2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:35] Kamion: ? [03:36] elmo: yo [03:37] Kamion: I realise you probably care about most anything else right now, but fyi little hit red line on disk space. however, don't delete stuff you don't want to, put it (or a list of it) somewhere for m e and I'll rsync it to the storage array of death [03:38] (s/don't/when you do get round to fixing it - no rush -, \&/) - typing while swapping sucks [03:41] elmo: ~cjwatson/old-images would be perfect to archive off any time you're ready [03:41] 86296548 old-images/ [03:41] \sh_away: the problem with istanbul is that the orig.tar.gz's in debian and ubuntu don't match [03:42] I've been keeping stuff there for a while [03:43] ok, syncing [03:43] anyone using 2.6.15 kernel from dapper and ata_piix module? [03:43] kamion: er, tho that'll do amusing things to little's IO - lemme know if that is/becomes a problem [03:44] elmo: hmm, ok, probably all right for now [03:45] BenC: lsmod seems to say that here [03:45] BenC: (presuming you mean 2.6.15-8.10) [03:45] yeah [03:45] it's working for you with drives then? [03:45] BenC: yep [03:46] any messages in kern.log? [03:46] anything in particular I should grep for? [03:47] if it's not full of ataX messages, then it's good :) [03:47] BenC : I am, but I haven't upgraded the laptop to -8.10 yet. Let me do that now. [03:47] BenC: only the one (for this x41-2527) on boot for "ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100" === ozamosi [n=nnnnnnnn@h235n2c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] elmo: little's mirror-updating ssh to mirnyy hangs === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:50] magellanic doesn't seem startlingly fast to respond either [03:51] although gets there in the end, sometimes [03:51] elmo: thanks for processing my sync requests from the other night, but i think you might have missed bayonne [03:51] elmo: taking mirnyy out of the list for now, unless you shout and tell me it's vital [03:51] iirc it's just releases which isn't getting modified at the moment === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:06] Kamion: mirnyy's out of rotation anyways - knock yourself out [04:06] is flight-2 due to be released tonight? [04:07] if so, oh dear, our ISP are going to cry === ssam [n=ssam@88-104-132-192.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:08] elmo: probably tomorrow morning rather than me actually killing myself. What's wrong with our ISP? [04:08] http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ [04:08] bayonne | 1.2.15-1 | dapper/universe | source, i386, powerpc, sparc [04:08] that's mirrored daily, only release-like directories though [04:08] btw, what kernel is flight-2 based on? [04:09] maswan: if I can get a special trigger at a time roughly of my choosing tomorrow, I can link to that from the announcement [04:09] maswan: 2.6.15-8.10 [04:09] Kamion: sure, at least if I'm awake. :) [04:10] Kamion: awesome, then I'll have to try an install. I have hardware that doesn't find the sata on <2.6.15 [04:10] maswan: ta [04:10] elmo: oops, sorry...I must have missed the ACCEPTED email [04:14] infinity/lamont: ? [04:15] elmo : Yes? [04:16] elmo : king drive space? [04:16] (and weddell, looks like) [04:16] I'll tidy. [04:17] infinity: cute [04:21] elmo : What's your yellow/redline on the livefs hosts? (king, weddell, royal, terranova) [04:22] infinity: /etc/nagios/nrpe.cfg [04:22] they haven't been well customized, some of them, esp. on non .5Tb hosts may not be especially suitable [04:24] Yeah. Only terranova is .5TB. [04:24] Would have been nice if the other three were too, but oh well. [04:24] Alternately, perhaps I should archive all livefs images to terranova, or something equally silly. [04:24] most of them could have more if they need it, tho king would need a better machine to fit more disk [04:26] launchpad will be going down in 10 mins, which will also put the wiki's into read only mode. Estimated down time is 45 mins. === MacFergus [n=frg@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] hm, where's seb128 when you need him [04:38] my panel just hung [05:01] please test http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and report any failures to me, either here, in /msg, or by e-mail (cjwatson@ubuntu.com) [05:02] bonus points for causing safe, correct, and obvious fixes for said failures to be uploaded [05:02] now you're just being greedy [05:03] powerpc live isn't there yet, but will be in under half an hour (it was bitten by a stupid build failure, rebuilding) [05:03] already downloaded, burning cd now... :) [05:04] huh, no, don't bother with live I think I broke it; fixing [05:05] i only grabbed the installer cd anyway [05:05] that should be fine === tritium [n=mfrimbe@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] ok, better, try live CDs in about half an hour from now [05:12] I'm going to crash 'cos 18-hour days suck === stub [i=stub@sweep.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc_ [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] morning [06:16] shouldn't file roller appear in alacarte to be able to be reenabled? [06:18] its not showing up for me, but nautilus does, not sure why though [06:18] i mean nautilus shows in alacarte with the check box empty allowing you to enable it if you want it back === dream [n=wanglei1@159.226.21.127] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] hi , anyone ? [06:24] anyone here? [06:25] anyone can help me ? : ( . [06:25] ? [06:26] hi desrt [06:26] hello dream [06:26] i have a question, would like to help me ? : ) / [06:26] do you have a question? [06:26] yes [06:27] have you read the topic? [06:27] topic? [06:27] what topic? [06:27] the channel topic. what is your question? [06:28] oh [06:28] i wanna know in ubuntu installation CD, which script can detect my scsi device [06:28] and modprobe it ? . [06:28] you're better off asking in #ubuntu [06:28] it's more active with people who can help you [06:28] jdub: liked your take on the interesting thread today :) [06:29] jdub: at least in what you said in your reply to dave on the blog [06:29] oh , but someone suggest me ask question here : ( . [06:30] i wanna know in ubuntu installation CD, which script can detect my scsi device and modprobe it , where is the script in initrd of ubuntu installation CD? : ) . [06:30] dream: look at it? [06:30] can you help me ? desrt [06:30] its fairly trivial to load a correct module for a pci device [06:31] i used to have one line of bash that did it [06:31] what modules should I see for a BCM4318 (AirForce One 54G) wirless card? [06:32] calc_ but i wanna to develop a linux installation CD , so i wanna know [06:32] elmo: there are new open source drivers for them [06:32] dream: you have been answered already 2 times. [06:32] elmo: otherwise you need to use the ndiswrapper stuff [06:32] so i wanna know where is the script in initrd of ubuntu installation CD? : ) . [06:32] dream: please stop spamming this channel [06:32] calc: ok, thanks [06:32] fabbione sorry : ) . [06:32] elmo: aiui 2.6.15 may already have the broadcom driver [06:33] bugger - I wonder if I even have a cat 5 anymore [06:33] elmo: we already have it in dapper, but i didn't get it to work on ppc yet. [06:33] i yanked mine during the non supported time and installed an intel 2915abg :) [06:33] fabbione: hmm, this is on an x86 laptop [06:33] actually it's an amd64 laptop but I downloaded the wrong CD [06:33] <-- winn0r [06:33] elmo: oh ok.. than it should do [06:33] elmo: same here [06:33] fabbione: yeah, but not in the installer right? I mean I don't have the windows drivers :) [06:34] i need to put my old nic back in and see how it works soon [06:34] no, it's not in the installer [06:34] elmo: and it's not the windrv [06:34] fabbione: .. for ndis? [06:34] oh, you mean the new one [06:34] i am talking about the free driver [06:34] don't mind me, it's late here [06:34] i don't.. it's damn early here [06:35] if it is for your use only, you need dapper... [06:35] and be aware that's not exactly stable [06:35] fabbione: this is dapper, pre-test of flight-2 [06:35] so should be latest kernel [06:36] ok [06:36] bcm43xx.ko <- the winner [06:37] it will mostlikely ask for the firmware [06:37] hmm, "module bcm43xx not found" === fabbione scratches his head [06:37] lib/modules/2.6.15-8-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx$ [06:37] ok, so the 14.1 iso still does not detect the hard drives on my laptop [06:38] fabbione: that mini iso was able but this flight 2 candidate does not === mojo [n=mojo@220-244-248-54.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:38] mgalvin: meh... sorry i can't remember the details.. [06:39] elmo: if you have the normal kernel, it's there... [06:39] qosmio g25 laptop w/ sata raid, hard drives do not get detected [06:39] ok, how did we solve it? [06:39] you had send me a link to a mini.iso that was able to detect them [06:40] s/send/sent/ [06:40] that was the netinstall from archive [06:40] wasn't it? [06:40] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [06:40] yes [06:40] can you try that one again? [06:40] it has been updated [06:40] so don't trash the old one [06:41] daniels: when can we get to play with xorg 7.0 rc3? :) [06:41] ok, give me a sec to try it again, gotta run in a few min though [06:41] daniels: ya, I am looking forward to it 2 [06:44] ubuntu documentation team forgot to put in details on 'About this Document' for About Ubuntu entry again === jlj [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:48] it doesn't make much sense to have Epiphany relies on Firefox. Can't we come up with better package solution? === dream [n=wanglei1@159.226.21.127] has left #ubuntu-devel [""] [06:52] fabbione: that new mino iso DOES find them [06:52] sorry gotta run for now, later === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_ === zakame [n=zak@210.213.79.102] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:24] fabbione: fyi, I get "Invalid PHY Revision 7" trying the modprobe from the installed system [07:26] that's normal [07:26] ignore it [07:26] actually.. mjg59 gave me a hint to make that thing working. let me find it somewhere [07:27] elmo: Dec 06 17:56:09 mjg59 iwconfig foo essid bar; iwconfig foo channel baz; ifconfig foo up; iwlist scan; iwconfig foo essid bang [07:27] you might need to tickle the driver that way to make it working [07:27] also.. force it to 11Mb [07:28] ah, ok, will play later, thanks - atm, still trying to get X :) [07:28] iwconfig foo rate 11M [07:28] no problem === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-165-24.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.17.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@dsl-146-100-81.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-52-188.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:59] haha heavy metal for human beings === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:09] Quick Q, is Dapper still using 2.6.15.7? I had to revert to 2.6.15.6 after some rather funky HDD errors (I thought my laptops hdd was getting shonky). [08:10] 2.6.15-8 now. === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1FBC.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:22] good morning developers === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] infinity: Righto, thanks for that. I would check myself, but apt-get is held at the moment. [08:25] dholbach : New gnome-terminal loves me. [08:25] ROCK! [08:25] dholbach : Thanks, dude. === dholbach hugs infinity [08:25] Good morning [08:25] pitti: you happy too with gnome-terminal? :) [08:25] and then i only need to ask jbailey, if he's happy [08:26] You might want to phrase it differently, or you're likely to get a sarcastic response like "I've never been happy..." [08:26] Well, you would have if you'd asked ME that. :) [08:26] infinity: i'm to optimistic for that :) [08:26] s/to/too [08:27] I've noticed. [08:27] haha :) === infinity runs out to get some lemon-flavoured rocket fuel to power him through the evening. === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [08:27] dholbach: yes, it works again, thanks! === pitti hugs dholbach [08:27] infinity: Does said rocket fuel have a name? [08:27] StevenK : SOLO! [08:28] Oh, evil. [08:28] the funny thing about the fix is: the guy whose patch i reverted complained, that suddenly ubuntu's gnome-terminal had gone weird ;) [08:28] infinity: You're better off shooting up with sugar. [08:28] Sucks to be him. [08:29] Who says I'm not? [08:30] infinity: But ... Solo tastes like, well, crap. === rob1 [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Traxer|on is now known as Traxer|off === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-248-17.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] yi: it's broken as shit [08:57] yi: server appears to be totally dead [08:57] yi: but definitely not until after flight 2 [09:00] daniels: did you hear anything weird about xdamage/xfixes in the last time? [09:02] daniels: i tried to build gnome-mag with xfixes/xdamage support. on breezy it worked nicely and on dapper it painted the whole part of the "magnified screen" grey :) === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] dholbach: cool :) could be the fbCompositeGeneral breakage, since that seems to be pretty world-ending for most things really [09:05] oh i see. will you give the signal, when i should try it again? :) [09:06] yeah, will do [09:06] merci beaucoup [09:08] np === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-248-17.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:23] Kamion: thanks for the analysis of the gfxboot issue === daniels [n=daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === stub [i=stub@sweep.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:53] Kamion: when you arrive, can we have a quick discussion about that cupsys-driver-gimpprint failure? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:53] pitti: Kamion went to bed at like 3 or 4 am, I doubt he'll be up anytime soon [09:54] uh, ok; thanks === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:58] elmo: he was active on -boot 30 minutes ago. Have to drive Kirsten etc, but he'll be back afterwards. [09:58] he might be mostly interested in getting flight out today, though. [09:59] right, and that cupsys issue breaks livecd builds [09:59] that's why I want to solve it today [10:03] pitti : No, it doesn't break the builds. I did a few uploads to fix that... [10:03] But it doesn't make cupsys any less broken. [10:03] infinity: fix the -driver-gimpprint issue? [10:04] infinity: I just saw that you use invoke-rc.d now [10:04] but does that make a difference? [10:04] Yes. It was breaking livefs builds, so I uploaded fixes for both gimp-print and cupsys, IIRC. [10:04] (different fixes) [10:04] Oh, right, the cupsys fix was just a linking issue, so gimp-print could build. [10:05] Anyhow, invoke-rc.d fixes the livefs build, because we divert invoke-rc.d during the build (and invoke-rc.d is just The Right Thing To Do anyway) [10:05]