[12:10] <zul> heylo
[02:00] <zul> grrr...
[02:00] <zul> Missing /home/chuck/kernel/builds/kotd/build/ubuntu-2.6/debian/abi/2.6.15-8.10/i386/dbg file
[02:02] <zul> how do you disable the abi check?
[02:03] <zul> nevermind
[03:08] <BenC> debian/rules skip_abi=true build
[03:09] <BenC> gonna need something better than dbg though
[03:09] <BenC> it shouldn't be a new config target
[03:10] <BenC> it should be created out of the already done builds
[03:10] <BenC> using debian/post-install you should be able to grab the appropriate parts and create a .deb, just like linux-headers-* gets made
[03:13] <jbailey> BenC: Remember that whole "doesn't seem to be crashing on me" thing?
[03:13] <jbailey> *sigh*
[03:17] <BenC> lol
[03:35] <mgalvin> would there happen to be a short list of some new supported hardware, or should I just scrounge the package logs?
[03:37] <mgalvin> just wondering b/c i am working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight2
[03:37] <Kamion> glad you told me before I sent out the release announcement ;-)
[03:38] <mgalvin> :)
[03:38] <mgalvin> its not all done yet, but almost
[03:39] <Kamion> my announcements generally just list changes affecting the installer and the live CD boot process, since those are things people can't easily pick up just by following upgrades on a normal system
[03:39] <Kamion> i.e. "why should you download this CD image rather than use your last one and upgrade" kind of things"
[03:39] <Kamion> of course a page like yours is definitely worthwhile for other reasons - glad, if surprised, to see it :)
[03:41] <mjg59> Kamion: You really should be in bed
[03:42] <Kamion> so should you
[03:42] <mgalvin> glad to write it, i thought it would be nice to provide a higher level overview of new features so people can see all the great progress being made more easily
[03:43] <Kamion> is your intent to provide a delta from Flight 1, or from Breezy?
[03:43] <Kamion> (just checking - I think the former's more valuable at the moment)
[03:43] <mjg59> Kamion: But I've just got back from a crap club, so I've got an excuse
[03:43] <mjg59> (Not drunk at all, honest)
[03:43] <mgalvin> flight 1-2 delta
[03:44] <Kamion> right
[03:44] <mgalvin> agreed
[03:47] <BenC> mgalivn: s/lowend//  s/highend/bigiron/ for server kernels
[03:47] <BenC> server and server-bigiron, but same description
[03:52] <mgalvin> BenC: done!
[04:46] <infinity> BenC : Alive, still?
[04:47] <infinity> [17179886.376000]  ata2: command error, drv_stat 0x51 host_stat 0x0
[04:47] <infinity> [17179886.380000]  ata2: command error, drv_stat 0x51 host_stat 0x0
[04:47] <infinity> [17179886.384000]  sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: <6>Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 00
[04:47] <infinity> [17179886.384000]  sr: Current: sense key: Hardware Error
[04:47] <infinity> [17179886.384000]      Additional sense: Focus servo failure
[04:47] <infinity> Over and over and over again.
[04:47] <infinity> (ata_piix, -8.10)
[04:48] <infinity> BenC : The disk driver seems fine, but atapi (the CD/DVD drive) is doing that as nauseum.
[04:48] <infinity> s/as/ad/
[07:15] <fabbione> BenC: 
[07:15] <fabbione> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources                              
[07:15] <fabbione>   Connection failed [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[07:15] <fabbione> Err http://ports.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[07:15] <fabbione>   Connection failed
[07:16] <fabbione> are you having net access problem?
[07:16] <fabbione> i can't update the chroots on zachery
[01:16] <BenC> infinity: you are getting the 0x51 too
[01:16] <BenC> guess I need to disable ATAPI on that driver.
[01:17] <infinity> ... But wasn't I using ATAPI on it with -7.9?
[01:18] <infinity> (In fact, wasn't the LACK of ATAPI on that driver what led to me having no CD/DVD drive at all, then enabling it gave me a CD...)
[01:19] <infinity> Which worked fine, until the latest kernel upgrade.
[01:20] <fabbione> good morning Ban
[01:20] <fabbione> as soon as you show up the e3k disappear :)
[01:21] <fabbione> BenC: did it die completely or is it just the vtun?
[02:12] <BenC> died
[02:13] <BenC> infinity: I had a guy had that same error with -7.9, and upgrading to -8.10 broke it
[02:13] <BenC> fabbione: and it's below zero outside, so it will be a few minutes before I go reboot it :)
[02:13] <BenC> infinity: err, upgrading to -8.10 didn't fix it
[02:14] <BenC> infinity: are you using 2.6.15-8-686?
[02:14] <infinity> BenC : Hrm.  Well, I was fine with -7.9, only -8.10 throws the error...
[02:14] <infinity> BenC : yes, -686 in both cases.
[02:15] <BenC> infinity: if so, can you try this replacement module: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=5314
[02:15] <fabbione> BenC: eheh ok.. it was building the kernel tho :/
[02:15] <fabbione> almost at the end
[02:15] <BenC> the bu submitter tried it, but I'm not entirely certain he booted correctly with it
[02:16] <BenC> fabbione: lol, ok
[02:19] <BenC> sarcastic and belittling remarks toward me in a bug report
[02:41] <infinity> BenC : Can you bug me about testing that tomorrow?... I'm in no position to reboot anything right now, and it's bedtime to boot.
[02:42] <BenC> ok
[03:38] <zul> heylo
[03:39] <jbailey> Zooool
[03:57] <mgalvin> morning all
[03:58] <Kamion> hmm, prism54 firmware upload doesn't seem to be working
[04:01] <BenC> not working as in it says it fails, or as in it uploads, but prism54 driver doesn't work afterwords?
[04:04] <jbailey> Kamion: IIRC, Scott moved the firmware directory.
[04:04] <Kamion> prism54: request_firmware() failed for 'isl3890'
[04:04] <Kamion> the firmware's in /lib/firmware/isl3890 so I wonder if the driver's looking in the wrong place
[04:05] <Kamion> or maybe if there's no firmware handling in udev-udeb ...
[04:05] <jbailey> The firmware mechanism always confuses me, but I think it sends a udev event asking for it to be stuffed into the right file in /sys
[04:05] <jbailey> I can fire up my laptop and upgrade it if you want me to check.
[04:05] <Kamion> ah, I think it's the latter
[04:06] <Kamion> no 80-programs.rules, and no firmware_helper
[04:06] <Kamion> ok, errata
[05:16] <fabbione> can somebody kindly tell Ben that i am abusing his sparc?..
[05:16] <fabbione> thanks :)
[05:16] <fabbione> later
[05:16] <zul> child abuser
[05:41] <mgalvin> i added a few things to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight2 and it is i think mostly all set, if anyone could review it one last time that would be great, thnx
[05:44] <Kamion> just in time, too, I'm publishing the images
[05:46] <mgalvin> :)
[05:47] <mgalvin> i am also, hopefully soon, move the images from my server to doc.ubuntu.com server
[05:47] <Kamion> Perhaps it should link to ubuntu-devel-announce rather than ubuntu-announce, since the former's where the announcement is going?
[05:48] <mgalvin> thats fine
[05:48] <mgalvin> i just copied that bit from DapperReleaseNotes
[05:53] <mgalvin> so do we have support for the broadcom wifi chips?
[05:53] <Kamion> a prerelease of the driver is in but the firmware isn't
[05:54] <Kamion> I don't think it's really right to say we support it until we've come to some kind of arrangement to be able to distribute firmware
[05:54] <mgalvin> ok, just wondering, i received a few suggestions and that was one of them
[05:59] <mgalvin> Kamion: also just added a small Note (warning)
[05:59] <mgalvin> at the top
[06:12] <BenC> fabbione: your kernel build appears done
[07:47] <CataEnry> hi all
[07:55] <fabbione> BenC: yes i saw thanks.. i will wait tomorrow to upload otherwise i will kill your bw.
[07:55] <fabbione> bbl
[07:56] <BenC> you can start the upload at the meeting tonight if you want
[07:56] <BenC> that is in about 13 hours, right?
[08:05] <jbailey> Ugh.  It's the middle of the night meeting tonight, isn't it.
[08:13] <BenC> yep
[08:13] <BenC> 3am for me and you Jeff
[08:14] <zul> heh...i probably wont be there then
[08:14] <zul> unless i cant sleep
[08:15] <doko> mgalvin, Kamion: OOo2 is not 2.0.0 final, but 2.0.1 rc2
[08:16] <mgalvin> doko: ah, good catch, fixing now
[08:17] <doko> already fixed :)
[08:18] <mgalvin> :) k, cool
[08:27] <slushpupie> so are the timestamps in the kernel messages (dmesg, et. al) from a ubuntu specific patch, or where did those come from?
[08:27] <dilinger> what is this (in breezy), anyways?
[08:28] <dilinger> tmpfs                 506M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686-smp/volatile
[08:28] <dilinger> i assumed it was an initramfs thing, but grepping for volatile in /usr/share/initramfs-tools brings up nothing
[08:37] <BenC> jbailey: is therm_pm72 working for your G5?
[08:37] <BenC> I've loaded it on mine, and the fan is still blowing like a wind tunnel
[08:38] <BenC> dilinger: linux-restricted-modules, IIRC
[08:38] <jbailey> BenC: It's fine here.
[08:38] <BenC> dilinger: I think it has to do with boot-time linking for some GPL violating modules
[08:38] <BenC> jbailey: was there something else you had to do besides loaidng therm_72pm?
[08:38] <BenC> pm72 I mean
[08:38] <BenC> does it show anything in dmesg?
[08:39] <jbailey> Nope.
[08:39] <jbailey> I'm on the phone, lagging.
[08:41] <BenC> np
[08:41] <BenC> sucks, just booted flight2 live on my G5, and it's steady fan
[08:41] <jbailey> jbailey@starshine:~$ dmesg |grep pm72
[08:41] <jbailey> jbailey@starshine:~$
[08:41] <BenC> maybe therm_pm72 was just xserve
[08:41] <dilinger> BenC: ah
[08:42] <dilinger> thanks
[08:44] <BenC> I think I found mine
[08:44] <BenC> windfarm_pm81 or windfarm_pm91, not sure which
[08:44] <BenC> it shows therm control now in dmesg, and shows all my fans, but hasn't slowed them down any
[08:45] <BenC> windfarm, that's definitely what this sounds like in here
[08:51] <BenC> windfarm_pm91, for G5 Desktop, 81 is for iMac G5
[08:52] <BenC> so this should be working
[08:57] <BenC> jbailey: can you cat /proc/cpu and tell me what your cpu is (PowerMacX,Y string)?
[08:57] <BenC> /proc/cpuinfo
[08:57] <jbailey> motherboard     : PowerMac7,3 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
[08:58] <BenC> yeah, mines 7,2, so you and I both use therm_pm72
[08:58] <BenC> 8,1 and 9,1 are much newer I guess
[09:00] <fabbione> BenC: i won't be at the meeting.. i will be flying to another city to give a talk at that time :)
[09:00] <zul> hey fabbione 
[09:00] <fabbione> hi zul
[09:00] <BenC> fabbione: how much longer till you leave?
[09:00] <fabbione> i will leave in 11 hours
[09:00] <fabbione> + or -
[09:00] <BenC> ok, start the upload when you leave, and it should be good
[09:01] <fabbione> sure.. no problem..
[09:06] <fabbione> BenC: let's do it even simpler.. all the kernel is in /org/chroots/uploadqueue/
[09:06] <fabbione> before you go to sleep just scp it to chinstrap in your home
[09:07] <fabbione> i will sign the changes and upload to jackass when i wake up
[09:07] <fabbione> so it won't bother anybody at all
[09:19] <juliux> hi all
[09:20] <juliux> i have a hp nx6110, with the live cd i can use the vga out, but if i try to use it with my installed breezy i get this kernel error: localhost kernel: [4297060.659000]  video bus notify
[09:20] <juliux> what can i do?
[09:21] <zul> check google or check in #ubuntu
[09:22] <juliux> zul, in #ubuntu nobody knows and google hits are all on kernel packages
[09:22] <juliux> so i ask here
[09:25] <BenC> fabbione: ok
[09:31] <BenC> mjg59: ping
[09:35] <BenC> juliux: the "video bus notify" comes from acpi, try disabling acpi (noacpi or acpi=off, can't remember)
[09:35] <juliux> BenC, ok thanks
[09:35] <juliux> i will test it
[09:40] <zul> BenC: can you do a pull from me later tonight i have one of two patches in my stable queue for you
[09:40] <BenC> ok, thanks
[09:41] <zul> i just have have to update the changelog
[09:47] <juliux> BenC, with acpi=off it works but then supsend don't work, is this a kernel bug or acpi bug?
[09:47] <BenC> probably hw bug
[09:47] <juliux> shit
[09:48] <BenC> check for newer BIOS, or for an alternate DSDT
[09:48] <juliux> i think that a hp nx6110 works perfect
[09:48] <juliux> but no i have allready trouble
[09:48] <juliux> ok thank you for your help
[09:48] <BenC> sure thing
[10:44] <fs> I get an error updating my ubuntu-2.6 git
[10:44] <fs> rsync: link_stat "/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git/refs/heads/upstream" (in pub) failed: No such file or directory (2)
[10:45] <fabbione> fs: sucks to be you :P
[10:45] <fs> heh
[10:46] <fs> well, I am not really used at using git
[10:46] <fs> I run git pull on my tree
[10:46] <fabbione> there is a git version around that's borked heavly
[10:46] <fabbione> try a full clone of death
[10:46] <fabbione> or upgrade git
[10:47] <fs> latest debian sid version
[10:47] <fabbione> would that be j or l?
[10:47] <fs>  0.99.9k
[10:47] <fs> hehe
[10:47] <fabbione> it's the broken one
[10:48] <fs> wonderful
[10:48] <fabbione> fs: suggestion... grab git from kernel.org :)
[10:48] <fabbione> and use that one
[10:48] <fs> well
[10:48] <fs> I guess I'll do that
[10:49] <fs> thanks anyway =)
[10:49] <fabbione> no problem
[10:50] <fs> btw, remember the never ending story I had at work with GFS and the borked storages?
[10:51] <fs> looks like the suppplier finally managed to get them configured correctly, they don't reset on too much io-wait anymore now
[10:51] <fs> this has been an issue since april
[10:52] <fabbione> ah
[10:52] <fabbione> so it was hw
[10:52] <fabbione> nice to know
[10:53] <fabbione> i am off to bed
[10:53] <fabbione> cya tomorrow or friday
[10:55] <jbailey> fabbione: Not at the meeting tonight?
[10:55] <fabbione> jbailey: it's tomorrow morning for me
[10:55] <jbailey> Bastard. =)
[10:55] <fabbione> and no i won't be there
[10:55] <fabbione> it was 3am last time for me :)
[10:55] <fs> n8 fabbione
[10:55] <fabbione> jbailey: i am going to give an Ubuntu talk tomorrow on the other side of DK
[10:55] <fabbione> i will miss the meeting by 20 minutes or so
[10:56] <jbailey> Excuses, excuses.
[10:56] <fabbione> eh no
[10:56] <fabbione> i have been telling since 2 weeks ago :)
[10:56] <fabbione> jbailey: and it's at 9am for me :)
[10:56] <fabbione> i already gave blood at 3am last time
[11:02] <AcidPils> hi
[11:02] <AcidPils> stupid acx :(
[11:03] <AcidPils> association FAILED: peer sent response code 10 (Cannot support all requested capabilities in Capability Information field) <-- any ideas?
[11:36] <mjg59> BenC: Hi