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^rob^hi12:04
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^rob^does anyone know how many files can be saved on a DVD data? - is there a max nr of files/12:04
^rob^??12:05
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_lisaanybody know about the module "tun"12:08
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nalioth^rob^: there is not an amount12:14
nalioth^rob^: but i wouldn't put more than a 100 in the root of the dvd-r, cuz your machine has to index it when you insert it into the drive.12:15
^rob^so if i have lots of 4 K images - and i make an iso - to back it up - (not compressing them) ...12:15
nalioth^rob^: i've had the machine stop functioning when i stuck a cd-r in, that had over 3000 files in the root12:15
naliothput all your files in folders12:15
^rob^i want to save automatically after i have 4Gb ...12:15
^rob^i have them in folders12:15
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naliothsounds like a scripting issue, to me12:16
^rob^but i have in 1 folder around 400 files12:16
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^rob^i have them in folders - np... - but 400 files - do you think will crash the machine on iso make?12:16
nalioth^rob^: nope.12:16
^rob^400 / 1 dir12:16
^rob^and i have 30 dirs12:16
nalioththe only thing i've found that caused a mishap was illegal characters in the file names12:17
^rob^ok ty12:17
^rob^i've made an application in flash to see the files - (images) so Win$$ owners with autorun to be able to see what's on that dvd12:17
^rob^:)12:17
^rob^flash+xml12:18
nalioth^rob^: you da man! (windows lover!)12:18
^rob^i know flas does not know tar or gz - that's why i ask this :012:18
^rob^nalioth: i'm not - my customers are12:18
^rob^i use wine for flash12:18
^rob^nalioth: ok - ty for your help12:19
naliothany time12:19
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^rob^nalioth: how do i make a dvd iso - does mkisofs cover dvd too?12:19
^rob^nalioth: or there's a dvd tool to make iso for it!12:20
nalioth^rob^: you'll need to visit a ftp dir that has cdrecord and read the readme for cdrecord-prodvd12:21
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nalioth^rob^: you'll then need to grab the version of cdrecord-prodvd for your system and put it in /usr/local/bin, and symlink it into the same dir with that name12:21
^rob^i've found a package on apt called dvdrtools - that's not enough?12:21
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naliothi'm old skool, ^rob^, i like having multiple tools for the job12:22
^rob^nalioth: description of dvdrtools sound good12:23
^rob^i'll try it12:23
nalioth^rob^: keep cdrecord-prodvd in mind12:23
^rob^i will12:23
nalioth^rob^: come back and i'll explain it further (it's non-free)12:23
^rob^ok - i'll keep that in my mind. - nalioth + cdrecort-prodvd :)12:24
^rob^and a cold beer12:24
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^rob^nalioth: dvd is udf format?12:31
troyusually12:31
nalioth^rob^: idk the fancy words12:33
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bubblenutHey how do I install c++ support for gcc?12:37
bubblenutI'm getting the following error when trying to compile the latest inkscape from source12:37
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bubblenutconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check12:38
naliothbubblenut: did you install "build-essential" ?12:38
chaoticgeeksudo apt-get install build-essential or essentials12:39
chaoticgeeknever mind you were not asking how12:39
bubblenutI can't find it with Adept12:39
bubblenutIs there another repository I need to add for it, I'm using Breezy12:39
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naliothbubblenut: if you can't find it, something is very wrong.12:40
naliothbubblenut: open a konsole please and type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"12:40
bubblenutYea, that's running fine, downloading it now12:41
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bubblenutAny ideas why it wasn't appearing in Adept?12:41
naliothbubblenut: i have no clue, i use synaptic12:41
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sqrekhi12:42
djk_probably a typo..or wrong filter setting12:42
Hobbseehi sqrek12:42
sqrekenyone have got problem with installing skype ?12:42
Hobbseeit's in my synaptic...12:42
Hobbsee!skype12:42
ubotusomebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:42
Hobbseei mean, it's in my adept...12:43
bubblenutThanks guys :)12:43
sqrekyes it is but it makes some errors and dont want to install12:43
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bubblenut:( anyone managed to compile Inkskape 0.43 on breezy?12:55
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Hobbseebubblenut: havent tried, 0.42 is in repositories though.  what errors are you getting for it?12:57
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bubblenutOooh, didn;t have libgtkmm dev package, making progress now ... still on the slow road of ./configure - resolve - ./configure - resolve though :/01:00
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Hobbseebubblenut: lol...make sure you use checkinstall as well - it's quite useful01:01
Hobbsee!checkinstall01:01
uboturumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall01:01
bubblenutYAY! It's configured, let's see if it's make :)01:01
Hobbsee:)01:02
bubblenutWow, that looks like a very cool package, bleeding edge software managed by the package manager, thanks :)01:03
Hobbseebubblenut: well, of course it doesnt get you the newest versions automatically, but it makes it a lot easier to add/remove!01:04
Hobbseeand of course, you can always back up the deb so you dont have to compile it again if you reinstall your system01:05
naliothbubblenut: have you heard of "autoapt" or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoDeb   ?01:05
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naliothbubblenut: the autodeb is experimental but may work for you (it uses autoapt and checkinstall functionality)01:05
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ClayGxnalioth have you used twin before?01:06
ClayGxsomeone was saying it was similar to screen but had some more functionality01:06
ClayGxI grabbed it but didnt get a chance to see it in action01:06
ClayGxI figured a command line guru such as yourself must have encountered it before or if not would love to mess around with it01:07
naliothClayGx: twin as in a console proggy? no.01:07
Hobbsee!info twin01:07
bubblenutagain, wow, there's really no reason not to go and get the latest sources of those interesting new apps now, thanks guys, this shit's awesome :)01:07
ubotutwin: (a Text mode WINdow environment), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 223 kB, Installed size: 672 kB01:07
naliothi've encountered it, but don't see the point, personally. you may like it, tho01:07
Hobbseehmmm...ok then...01:07
ClayGxwhich is that? the one you said no? or the one that bubblenut is speaking ovf?01:08
naliothbubblenut: language please01:08
ClayGxWell I dont know if I may like it or not, I haven't looked at it , just wondering if you know what were the advantages of it over screen01:08
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ClayGxoh yeah if anyone wants to pick up a ruth crhis steat card for half price lemme know it is going to expire a the beginning of jan but it's a good deal, half price ofr  a150 dollar card01:09
bubblenutsorry, a little excited ;)01:09
ClayGxahhhh there should be a script in ubotu to correct spelling01:09
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ClayGxlike !correctme and it searches for the last "post" you sent and fixes it, for those times you say "I need to get a new comuter" and some wise guy goes01:10
ClayGxcomuter? what is that01:10
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_kay!correctme01:10
ubotu_kay: Are you smoking crack?01:10
_kayhehe01:10
ClayGxahhhh01:10
ClayGxWorht a try right?01:11
_kaySo, that's jus unkind01:11
_kay!correctme01:11
ubotu_kay: Not a clue01:11
ClayGxOh no, not this again01:11
naliothClayGx: <ahem>01:11
_kayIt doesn't work at al01:11
_kay!correctme01:11
ClayGxyes, agreed01:11
ClayGx3rd time probally wont either01:11
ClayGxyes nalioth?01:11
_kayBut it should :)01:12
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ClayGxYes , but we need to be careful otherwise someone will create the function and then "test" it for two days01:12
ClayGxwhich basically like what you did but 10 times with the same command, and 4-5 diff people01:12
naliothClayGx: ruth chris can speak for herself in here01:13
ClayGxOk01:13
ClayGxsorry01:13
ClayGxoh man, REALLY sorry i didnt see this wasn't offtopic01:14
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Hobbseehehe01:14
ClayGxthose/you guys go crazy ifq questions are asked that are anything without the word ubuntu in it01:14
Hobbseeyeah, it isnt offtopic...01:15
ClayGxlol01:15
ClayGxsorry i thought i was in the reg(offtopic) one, im at the school and in irssi, been using xchat to much01:15
bubblenutBring it on!! I have Inkscape 0.43 and my package manager knows it :D Thanks a million01:18
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sqrekenyone can help with skype instalation on kubuntu ?01:19
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Voodoo_Vibewhen i try installing windows apps with wine i get only funny looking fonts??01:19
sqrekin adept when i click install i have still not installed message... apt-get install dont work. waths goin on01:20
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sqrek...01:21
Voodoo_Vibesqrek: maybe some servers are down01:22
naliothClayGx: be careful you don't end up talking to yourself, lol01:22
GeKsqrek use this rep. to install skype deb http://archive.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/ breezy main restricted universe multiversess01:23
sqrekoki i will try GeK01:23
GeKadd this to your source list01:23
GeKi have installed it for 10 min. it works01:24
DJ_Mer_ 17:22:07 up 15:20,  1 user,  load average: 3.36, 2.39, 1.82 << LMAO i am getting schooled01:24
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sqrekErr http://archive.ubuntu.org.cn breezy/multiversess Packages01:25
sqrek  404 Not Found01:25
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GeKdeb http://archive.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/ breezy main restricted universe multiversess01:26
sqreki know i wrote it in source list then make apt-get update01:26
sqrekand i got this01:26
fdelacruzgudmorning guys01:26
sqrekaat the end01:26
GeK"deb http://archive.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/ breezy main restricted universe multiversess" u should add this to /etc/apt/sources01:26
sqrekwoo its downloading ;] 01:27
Tm_Tss ?01:27
GeKgood01:27
naliothsqrek: spell multiverse correctly and it'll work01:28
naliothsqrek: and remember to comment it out when you've got what you are after01:28
sqreki see :) thx01:29
sqreki have only 1kB/s01:29
sqrekis this server so slow ?01:30
GeKyes01:30
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GeKhow can i register my nickname here01:32
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Nachouse /nickserv01:32
Hobbsee!register01:32
seth_k|lappyGeK, /msg nickserv register <password>01:32
ubotuhmm... register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))01:32
seth_k|lappythat works too :P01:32
Hobbseehehe01:32
GeK:)) thanks01:33
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GeKhmm already registered (((01:36
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HobbseeGeK: did you register it?01:38
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MachineScrewi just got an error when draging a folder to the trash01:39
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MachineScrew'Creating Folders isn't supported by the trash:/ protocall'01:40
Hobbseeweird....01:40
ZL0Hobbsee no now i have another nickname)))01:40
MachineScrewtell me about it01:40
HobbseeMachineScrew: why not just hit the delete key, instead of click and drag?01:41
HobbseeZL0: yay :)01:41
MachineScrewI had mulipule folders and files01:41
Hobbseeshift key to select them all, then the delete key...01:41
MachineScrewand thats what i was used to01:41
Hobbseeah ok01:41
MachineScrewya i did the ctrl  only some but i just right clicked and said move to trash an d that worked01:42
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Hobbseeyep01:43
MachineScrewI learnd computers on a mac01:43
MachineScrewyuck01:43
MachineScrewthen I went to pcs01:43
MachineScrewDOS/Win 3.101:43
MachineScrewthen OS/201:44
MachineScrewthen Win9501:44
_jonasHow do I upgrade to Firefox 1,5 in Kubuntu? I've downloaded the file, but then what?01:44
MachineScrew_jonas: ther is a wiki on ubuntu about it01:44
Voodoo_Vibe_jonas: cantt u just write sudo apt-get install firefox??01:44
MachineScrewno not for 1.5 you can't01:45
Voodoo_Vibeok, my bad01:45
MachineScrewno prob01:45
MachineScrew_jonas: let me find it01:45
_jonasWhats a wiki? Thanks for the help01:46
MachineScrewhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:46
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Voodoo_Vibeanyone know a guitar program like Guitar Pro for windows??01:46
MachineScrew_jonas: just a type of web tech01:46
nalioth_jonas: help.ubuntu.com leads to wiki.ubuntu.com01:47
MachineScrewVoodoo_Vibe: I have heard of them did you check kde-apps.org01:47
_jonasMAchineScrew: There is a problem w/ the link. A certificate was not accepted01:47
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Voodoo_VibeMachineScrew: no, Didnt know of that site... im new! Thanx will check it out01:48
nalioth_jonas: that's ok. you can surf there anywah01:48
MachineScrew_jonas: you need to accept the thing01:48
MachineScrewoh01:49
_jonasMachineScrew: IC, testing!01:49
MachineScrewnalioth: ya isn't that to edit the site any way or what01:49
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naliothMachineScrew: no, the ssl certificate is not properly set or something01:51
Voodoo_Vibewhere can i get automake 1.6.1 or newer??01:53
Voodoo_Vibei wrote apt-get install automake but i got an old version01:53
MachineScrewoh01:53
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: use apt-cache search automake01:53
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: type "apt-cache search automake" and choose your version01:54
Voodoo_VibeOk, Thanx!!01:55
Voodoo_Vibe*** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.9.5.01:56
Voodoo_Vibe*** KDE requires automake 1.6.1 or newer01:56
Voodoo_Vibecouldnt find just automake1.6.101:56
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: sudo apt-get install automake1.901:56
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: thats what i typed01:57
Hobbseeyou sure that's what you typed?  and it couldnt find it?01:57
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sqrekis it safe to install KDE 3.5 ?01:58
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: no, i can find that one but then i get this:01:58
Voodoo_Vibe*** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.9.5.01:58
Voodoo_Vibe*** KDE requires automake 1.6.1 or newer01:58
Hobbseesqrek: yes01:58
sqrekNice :] 01:58
Hobbseesqrek: well, plenty of people have been installing it01:58
Voodoo_Vibesqrek: i run KDE3.5 works fine01:59
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sqrekany trason i sgould change from 3.4 ?01:59
sqrekreasons'01:59
Hobbseeyou might want to try automake1.8 or automake1.701:59
DelvienAnyone have an idea why Kmix's channel resets to 3d everytime i shutdown / reboot my computer????01:59
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: ok, will try that01:59
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: please don't paste in here.02:00
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: it wont hurt to have ALL the automakes installed02:00
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: im sorry but i thought it was ok since it wasnt much02:00
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: if everyone in #ubuntu thought that, there'd be an implosion02:01
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: ive installed automake1.7 that worked good! THANX!!02:01
Hobbseeoh good!02:01
Hobbseeyes, but this is #kubuntu, and is quieter at the moment02:01
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: yeah. sorry, now i know02:02
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DelvienAnyone have an idea why Kmix's channel resets to 3d everytime i shutdown / reboot my computer????02:02
Delvieni guess not...02:07
mornfallJudax: ping02:09
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AoPHello02:30
sqrekAoP: Hi02:31
AoPFor some reason it says my root user/pass is invalid, I don't know if I've just completely forgotten what it is or wha, but is there anyway to change it or anything with out being on the root account?02:32
naliothubotu: tell AoP about root02:33
naliothAoP: check your PM, you are seeing things02:33
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Delvienhow do i add kmenu to a new panel?\02:33
AoPThank you=)02:33
DelvienNM i got it02:33
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Nytryxha it is a room03:05
Nytryxwhat are some tweaks to speed up kubuntu?\03:05
Nytryxhow do i change the time from 24hr clock to the 12 hr one?03:06
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snowgenWill the dapper CD try to repartition the HD and thus wipe my ~/, or can I safely do an upgrade from it?03:13
coolio10hi03:13
naliothsnowgen: it will upgrade03:16
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naliothsnowgen: then your comfortable existence with breezy will end03:16
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snowgenthanks nalioth.  Any special tricks I need to do for that, or will it autodetect the exisiting installation?03:16
naliothif you put the dapper install into an existing breezy, it should automajically ask you want to do03:17
snowgenlol--my breezy existaence is sadly not comfortable.  Random lockups from time to time.03:17
snowgenwell, time to burn the CD--wish me luck!  take care all03:21
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medgnodoes anyone have video thumbnailing working for them under kde 3.5?03:21
snowgenthanks again nalioth03:22
naliothsnowgen: any time03:22
medgnoor is video previewing a known problem in 3.5?03:24
medgnocan somebody please help me? This is the only thing keeping my from switching to kde03:27
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Delvienwhat is the chat room for XFCE?03:30
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naliothDelvien: try #xfce or #xfce4 or #xubuntu03:33
medgnocan someone please tell me if video thumbnailing exists in kde3.5?03:34
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coolio10hi03:41
coolio10i need help with grub03:41
coolio10it keeps making 2 kubuntu kernels on the list03:42
coolio10i edit the menu.lst but it keeps making it again03:42
medgnoby default, it lists all the kernels you have installed03:42
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coolio10i need help with grub03:43
coolio10yes but i only have 1 kbuuntu03:44
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coolio10and 1 windows03:45
medgnobut you have multiple linux kernels that can be used to run the kubuntu system03:45
coolio10?03:45
coolio10wait a sec ill show you a pastebin03:45
medgnook03:45
coolio10oh........ i see the porlbem!03:46
coolio10there is /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-k7 and /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-k703:46
coolio10but i dont know why i have 203:46
coolio10why is there 9 and 1003:47
medgno10 is a higher revision, meaning that bugs were fixed in that release over the 903:47
coolio10is there a way to remove 9?03:48
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coolio10because everytime i get releases ill get a bigger menu!03:48
Hobbseecoolio10: you can happily ignore it03:49
coronamanveru: hey i got some problem with kde3.503:49
Hobbseecoolio10: should i pastebin my latest menu lol?03:49
Hobbseecorona: what problem?03:49
manverucorona: welcome in the club :)03:49
medgnoif you're talking about the video thumbnailing, that was me asking03:49
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coolio10yea show me yours03:49
medgnoor nevermind.03:49
coronamanveru: hehe03:49
Hobbseecoolio10: getting it...03:50
coronaHobbsee: i am trying to post it03:50
coronaon pastebin03:50
Hobbseecoolio10: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46471003:50
coolio10i just updated to 3.5 today03:50
coronabut i guess the messages log is too big for the bin!!03:50
medgnocoolio10, do you have thumbnails for your video files?03:51
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medgnojust asking since I'm going crazy trying to get them to work03:51
coolio10havent got any03:52
coolio10lol03:52
coolio10give me one to download03:52
medgnoheh03:52
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coolio10Hobbsee i get the point now!03:52
Hobbseecorona: it shouldnt be too big for pastebin03:52
Hobbseecoolio10: hehehehehe...03:52
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Hobbsee17 items...nice!03:52
coolio10i only have 1 problem with my kubuntu but there is a workaround03:53
Hobbseecoolio10: each time there's a kernel update, i just go and move all the bits around again, so i get the most used ones at the top03:53
coolio10oh03:53
coolio10isnt the latest ones moved to the top automatically?03:53
Hobbseewell yeah, but grub is updated when dapper is, and it keeps booting to dapper as default if i dont change it.03:54
coronaHobbsee: manveru here http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46471403:54
coolio10if i do hiddenmenu how would i use kubuntu still because i set windows as default03:55
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coronaHobbsee: manveru its my kicker that disappears03:55
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: yooo03:55
Hobbseecoolio10: i wouldnt, i'd just use a divider, and it seems to hide all the other kernels, unless i use the arrow to scroll down03:55
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Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd?03:57
coolio10is there anything like garageband for kbuuntu so i can make audio from loops?03:57
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: its DJ03:57
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: on my iboche03:57
Insomniac-i thought you broke your ibook?03:58
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T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: nooo never... i love my ibook03:58
coolio10also my only problem with kubuntu is that everytime i go to Storage Media nothing is there so i just have to access the hda2 frm my desktop03:58
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: its my top priority.. which looks a little like this. 1. Work, 2. Bills, 3. iBook, 4. Girlfriend.03:58
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leichmanevening03:59
Insomniac-;)03:59
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: yup the ibook before the Gf... its actually dependable and fun to use lol03:59
Hobbseecoolio10: use /media/ instead of media:// <-- it's a known bug03:59
Insomniac-i'm out of cigarettes and everything is closed04:00
Insomniac-:/04:00
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: well good for one night your lungs will be happy04:00
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Insomniac-3 hours to go without crawling up the walls04:02
Hobbseehehe04:02
Hobbseepoor Insomniac-04:02
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Insomniac-that's what i get for being up at 4am04:03
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Insomniac-if i had my drivers license i'd be driving on the highway looking for some 24/7 gas station right now04:04
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Hobbseehehe04:05
Hobbseehow old are you?04:05
Insomniac-2304:05
Insomniac-24 in feb.04:05
Hobbseeand you dont have your licence?  why not?04:05
Insomniac-well here in .nl driving licenses can be acquired at 1804:06
T3hWiz0rd3 reasons come to mind. He didn't get it, expired, suspended04:06
Insomniac-but then i was moving out to study04:06
Insomniac-and my city lost the permits to do driving exams04:06
Hobbseeah ok04:06
Insomniac-stuff like that04:06
Insomniac-never really bothered, because i didn't need one04:07
T3hWiz0rddriving at 18... the one thing america can't seem to catch on to.04:07
T3hWiz0rdteenagers alone don't belong behind the wheels.. especially AMERICAN teenagers lol04:07
Hobbseei drive at 17..04:07
Insomniac-there is 1 thing i think is way better in .nl than in the usa04:07
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T3hWiz0rdeh i guess that was bias.... but..... around here the kids drive horribly.04:07
Insomniac-that's drinking at 16 and driving at 1804:08
Insomniac-not the other way around04:08
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: get the drunkness out before you learn to drive, good concept too04:08
Insomniac-yeah04:08
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: cos here they STILL get drunk at 16... but they can drive too lol04:08
Hobbseedrinking at 18 and driving solo at 17 here...04:08
Insomniac-learn what alcohol does first, *then* learn to drive04:08
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=== Hobbsee prefers coke
coronamanveru: did you look at the pastebin? kde crashed and i had to restart04:08
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: alcohol can be messy here in the US... nothing but teens drinking illegally then getting in cars and driving04:09
Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd: yeah very dangerous behaviour04:09
manverucorona: sorry, but i don't use kde...04:09
Insomniac-i'm glad the legal driving age is 18 here04:09
coronamanveru: oh :( thanks anyways04:09
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: when i was 17 i went to one party with some friends.. i was disgusted at how the girls acted how the guys were and how they did stuff afterward.04:10
=== Hobbsee knows lots of people who drink underage here anyway - doesnt seem to stop anyone
Insomniac-people will drink anyway, prohibition has shown to fail miserably04:10
Insomniac-but i firmly believe in learning about alcohol first before you start driving04:11
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: i don' think drinking as bad... as long as you first have control of yourself and safe surroundings04:11
Insomniac-nothing wrong with alcohol as long as you use it responsibly04:11
T3hWiz0rdrespoonsibly.. heh... a concept long since lost in the supposedly greatest place on earth04:11
T3hWiz0rdits so great i look forward to moving to europe changing my name and never going back04:12
Insomniac-every country has it's pros and cons04:12
Insomniac-maybe more important is the culture04:13
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: the way this country is run though disgusts me... i mean, i look at parents... they want to protect their kids but not raise them... Mommy thinks little susey is out studying on saturday night when in reality shes getting passed around like a peace pipe04:13
Insomniac-'feeling at home'04:13
naliothi suspect we all need to be in #kubuntu-offtopic04:13
T3hWiz0rdnalioth: but this doesn't seem important to you?04:14
naliothT3hWiz0rd: yes, but careening way off into offtopic land04:15
Insomniac-man has a point04:15
T3hWiz0rdnalioth: heh... well no ones popped up any kubuntu stuff in the past 3 hours so... me and Insomniac- are going at the cultural divide.04:15
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Hobbseelol04:18
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coronahas anyone managed to get tango icon set to work in kubuntu?04:33
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DJ_Mer_ Insomniac- you still floating around here?04:55
Insomniac-yah04:56
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: i hate woman... I really do.04:56
Insomniac-2 hours till i can smoke again and counting04:56
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: i know its off topic but... jesus...04:56
Insomniac-you'd rather be gay?04:56
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DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: sometimes lmao04:57
=== DJ_Mer_ dual-boots sexual prefs.
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Insomniac-bisexuality.. best of both worlds04:57
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: lol04:57
AyidenWhen you install kubuntu breezy it seems to be a default setting that when a usb or cd etc.. is mounted a window pops up with the files in the drive etc... How do you disable this?04:58
Insomniac-Ayiden: i don't know but if you find out, tell me :)04:58
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AyidenDJ_Mer_: girls can be fine.. just find a tomboy04:58
AyidenInsomniac-: *(lol)04:59
dfcWhy can't I get kdevelop3 to install on dapper?04:59
DJ_Mer_Ayiden: lol im not like that... gotta have a nice girl with long wavy blonde hair and a perfect perky personality04:59
DJ_Mer_Ayiden: that which i have... but the moodswings are unreal.04:59
AyidenI uograded to kde 3.5 so a NEW window comes up asking me if I would like to open a window or play music etc... Also annoying but at least I get a freakin choise!!!04:59
Insomniac-i hate that kind of autoplay functionality05:00
MrCleverdfc: do you get an error?05:00
dfcit says it needs kdelibs4c2 but that is obsolete and replaced by kdelibs4c2a but I have 42ca installed and it is the latest version. I read a bug about the c++ abi transition but I was a little confused05:00
AyidenDJ_Mer_: Im not like that eithor but im partial to brunetts05:00
DJ_Mer_Ayiden: blondes have all the fun05:00
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MrCleverdfc: sounds like a borked package - maybe there's a new one in the pipeline so give it a day or two and try an "apt-get update" then install05:01
AyidenDJ_Mer_: ha ha I highly doubt that.. its over rated... brunnetts can be MUCH more wild... trust me05:01
MrCleverdfc: if it's still borked, raise a bug against the package05:01
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DJ_Mer_Ayiden: lol i know... i didn't chose a blonde, just what i wound up with and thus changed my prefs.05:01
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Delvienanyone know a good finance manager in KDE, kmymoney2is very confusing.05:02
bogaI need development packages for KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu, How do I get these?05:02
dfcthere is no easy way to figure out if it is in the pipeline?05:02
Voodoo_Vibeis kde-apps down??05:02
Hobbseeboga: sudo apt-get install kde-devel05:02
AyidenDJ_Mer_: if your happy then thats the whole point we ALL have our flaws if the girl has mood shifts the guy will have something else to annoy the girl ha ha equals out05:02
sahooehi I'm having a problem with fstab file, configuring a partition. Can someone help me plz?05:03
AyidenLove and endure05:03
Ayidenha ha05:03
Hobbseesahooe: what type of partition?05:03
DJ_Mer_Ayiden: sometimes i do piss her off.... but its usually something dumb like burping or farting.05:03
Ayidensahooe: whats the problem05:03
bogaHobbsee: This is what I get...05:03
bogaHobbsee: "kde-devel: Depends: kde-core but it is not installable" and there are other dependencies!05:03
Hobbseeboga: is this on dapper or breezy?05:04
Delvienanyone know a good finance manager in KDE, kmymoney2is very confusing.05:04
bogaHobbsee: breezy05:04
sahooeAyiden: The partition is recognized and I can write and read, but the disk is 120GB and only the 20 GB for / are available05:04
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: for some reason the playlist seems to not give much veriety between artists.05:04
AyidenDJ_Mer_: yeah I dont have that kind of problem mine is being on the computer my gf seems to think of it as an advisary....05:04
Hobbseeboga: sudo apt-get install kde-core?05:04
Hobbseepaste the output to pastebin05:05
sahooei was having some help from the forums but they can't fix the problem05:05
Hobbseei thought this bug got fixed on breezy...05:05
bogaOK05:05
Ayidensahooe: sounds like you have unformatted space05:05
DJ_Mer_Ayiden: depending on how long you use it, it very well might be.05:05
Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: find a bigger hammer to hit it with05:05
sahooeI think it is formatted, I can write in the partition05:06
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: it seems to only wanna play Daft Punk, greenday, counting crows, bob marley, and crossfade.05:06
bogaHobbsee: Was that #pastebin? there is no one there!05:06
Hobbsee!pastebin05:06
Hentai^XP!pastebin05:06
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:06
Hobbseei'm in #pastebin now as well though - stick it there...05:06
Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: could be worse, it could refuse to play anything but britney spears05:07
sahooeI have all the information in one of the forums, I don't know if someone could give the thread a look05:07
Ayidensahooe: yes that partition is formatted what I am saying is that you have ONE partition of 20gb on a 120gb disk which means you have room for a 100gb partition or to earace the 20gb and make one big 120 partition.. your partition is too small05:08
Ayidenhave you ever used QTparted?05:08
sahooenope05:08
Ayidenpartition magic?05:09
sahooeI used the kubuntu installation disk05:09
Ayiden*(lol)05:09
Ayidenokay well I think you might not of formatted the hard drive properly05:09
sahooemaybe, what can I use?05:09
sahooeI don't want to lose my data05:10
sahooeI already formatted my disk like 3 times the last month05:10
Ayidenif you dont want to lose your data than you may want to "enlarge" the partition.. you can do this with QTparted05:11
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: i am looking at the server config... to run the script i have to type ./ before it, forget what you call that. But anyway, how do I send it signals?05:11
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Ayidenit would still be "safer" to back up any data that you need to a disk or dvd etc..05:11
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kalenedraelDamn it.05:11
sahooeok I'm downloading QTparted now05:12
kalenedraelOpenOffice still won't work; it's complaining that I'm missing some files which it should have installed as part of the package.05:12
sahooeIt's already installed05:12
musashidenhey, iam having a little error when doing ./configure to compile something05:12
Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: man kill05:12
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Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: signals listed within05:12
musashidenchecking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!05:12
Hobbseemusashiden: sudo apt-get install kde-devel05:13
Ayidenokay you can use that enlarge your partition its simple but I have a feeling you would feel safer with a walk through05:13
musashidenthanks hobbsee05:13
kalenedraelsudo apt-get install kde-devel05:13
kalenedraelbah, beaten05:13
Hobbseelol05:13
musashidenlol, thank you too kalenedrael :)05:13
sahooeyeah i think05:13
musashidenE: Couldn't find package kde-devel05:13
Ayidensahooe: what kind of partition is it?05:13
musashiden:/05:14
naliothmusashiden: try kdebase-dev05:14
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: it gives me commands to skipt to the next song wand whatnot.05:14
naliothmusashiden: also install these:05:14
nalioth!xincludes05:14
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev05:14
musashidenBroken packages05:14
sahooeit's a 120GB disk with 2 partitions: 1 of 20Gb for /, 1 of 100GB for files like music and videos05:14
naliothmusashiden: have you been using non ubuntu repos  or packages?05:14
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musashidennope, exept the amarok one05:15
sahooeqparted is only reading one disk, another dis of 6GB i have there plugged05:15
Ayidenokay is that what you have right now?05:15
kalenedraelmusashiden, you probably need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to include more parts of apt...05:15
kalenedraelEr, more parts of the apt repos.05:16
musashidenwhich ones?05:16
sahooeright now I have only a 20GB available, and it's full now05:16
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Voodoo_Vibedoes anyone know a good site to download plugins for gimp??05:16
Ayidenokay05:16
ejofeeis there any way i could switch to dapper drake as an upgrade (that is, without reformatting partition)?05:16
Hobbseemusashiden: nalioth...i'm seriously wondering about this - the packages are not being found, yet i've already installed them ages ago...05:17
Hobbseeejofee: yes05:17
Hobbsee!upgrade2dapper05:17
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Hobbsee05:17
Hobbsee!upgrade2breezy05:17
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:18
naliothHobbsee: strange repos can do it (including the 3.5 tree on breezy)05:18
Hobbseechange all the instances of breezy in your sources list to dapper05:18
ejofeeHobbsee: thank you05:18
sahooeHow can I enlarge the partition with qparted? There's only one disk there, another, no the main one05:18
musashidenHobbsee: say what? o.o05:18
Hobbseenalioth: that would be what i'm running, and i'm not finding it in the actual indexes of kubuntu site05:19
Ayidensahooe: the 20gb partition what is it formated as? reiser?05:19
ejofeeHobbsee: do you think it's safe for a newbye (like me) to upgrade to a drake like dapper?05:19
ejofee( :) )05:19
sahooeExt 3, both of them05:19
nalioth!info kde-devel05:19
Hobbseemusashiden: sorry, i meant, they were there, because i installed them weeks ago, but i cant find them there now...05:19
ubotukde-devel: (the K Desktop Environment development files and modules), section universe/kde, is extra. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB05:19
Ayidenso the 100gb partition IS ext 3?05:19
Ayidenmaybe its simply not mounted05:19
sahooeyes05:19
Hobbseeejofee: at flight 2?  nah, dont think so, unless you can navigate by console05:19
musashidenHobbsee: then what can i do?05:19
sahooeI think it is not mounted right05:19
naliothmusashiden: you got universe enabled?05:19
sahooeI think it's only a fstab problem05:20
Ayidenif you did'nt put a mount flag on it when you installed kubuntu you have to mount it manually05:20
ejofeeHobbsee: how many... flights are there until we reach dapper drake final05:20
ejofee?05:20
Ayidensahooe: yes now that you have clarified that it seems that it just may be05:20
Ayidenalright goto etc/fstab05:20
musashidennalioth: erm, no?05:20
sahooehere is my fstab line: /dev/hda3       /lucas          ext3    rw,user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000  0       205:20
sahooeit's the hda3 partition, called /lucas05:21
musashidenlet me try with universe enabled05:21
sahooeand it's mounted there, but not the full space05:21
Hobbseeejofee: um....how many colonies were there for breezy?  5?05:21
Voodoo_Vibeim looking for a wallpaper, maybe someone would know where to find it? it says something like "In a world without walls or fences, who needs gates or windows" ??05:21
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: i'd google it05:22
naliothubotu: tell musashiden about repos05:22
naliothmusashiden: enable universe and multiverse repos, please05:22
sahooeand when I type "dmesg", there is the message error:05:22
sahooe [4429772.811000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value05:22
ejofeeHobbsee: in fact, about when (which month) is dapper drake supposed to be released?05:22
naliothmusashiden: see your PM from ubotu05:22
Ayidenalright I wonder if we can do this with gui05:22
Ayidenbrb05:22
Hobbseeejofee: 6.04?  that'd be april 200605:22
ejofeeHobbsee: oh, right. the 04 comes from month.05:22
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: ive done that and got alot of hits going trought them now. Just wondering if anyone had a direct link or knew specific page05:22
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Hobbseeah ok05:23
sahooewhat's that?05:23
ejofeefolks, how *on earth* can i uninstall konqueror?!05:23
Ayidengui is what ever program that has an interface is called05:24
Ayidenthats not command line05:24
ejofeeis it like internet explorer?!05:24
Ayidenyour irc is gui05:24
sahooeok05:24
Ayidensahooe: goto system settings05:24
sahooeok05:24
Ayidenclick on disks and filesystems05:24
Ayidencheck to see if your 100gb partition is "enabled"05:25
Ayidenit must be run as root so click on administrator05:25
sahooeoops it says disabled05:25
Ayidenand enter your password05:25
Ayidenenable it05:25
sahooeok then05:25
Ayidenand click accept05:26
Ayidenwell apply05:26
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sahooethere's an error05:26
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: having a look...05:26
Ayidenthat should "suto" mount it05:26
Ayidenan error? what is the error?05:26
Ayidenauto**05:26
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: Thanx05:26
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Ayidensahooe: what does the erro say?05:26
sahooewhen I try to enable it, it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda305:26
Ayidenah05:27
Ayidenit IS formatted as ext 305:27
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: how do i get a list of my running processes in terminal?05:27
sahooeI think so, I'm almost sure05:28
Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: ps aux05:28
sahooesorry but the kubuntu instalation was a little pain and I don't remember for sure05:28
sahooeso what can I do?05:28
Ayidenum try thi goto etc/ftab and change part of the line to defaults,uid=0,gid=100,auto,rw,nouser05:29
sahooeok, i'm writing05:29
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: not found it yet, but found some funny quotes...05:29
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: Yeah.. lol alot of that!05:30
sahooedone05:30
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: http://www.samsimpson.com/quotes/msquotes.php in particular05:30
Ayideneverything after ext3   and before   0       205:30
sahooeshould I remount it or reboot?05:30
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: i love the one:  "Just don't create a file called -rf. :-)"05:30
Ayidentry and remount first05:30
Ayidenim hoping that that freaky bad supper blkock wrong fs trype is now for real05:31
Voodoo_VibeJOBBSEE: lol YEAH!05:31
Ayidensuper*05:31
AyidenI hate when that kind of thing happens05:31
sahooedo I mount with "sudo mount -a" right?05:31
Ayidenyes05:31
Ayidenalsa try with the a05:31
AyidenI never use the a05:32
Ayiden*(Lol)05:32
HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: or "The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s."05:32
Ayideni use sudo mount /bla...05:32
sahooeok there is a error the same: defaults,uid=0,gid=100,auto,rw,nouser05:32
sahooesorry that not05:32
sahooebut this: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda305:32
musashideniam still getting the same error05:32
Ayidencrap05:33
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: lol... true05:33
Ayidenhmm05:33
musashidenhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46480405:33
Ayidenwe need someone here that knows more than I do05:33
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sahooeI know man, it's been like one week with this problem05:34
musashidenanyone knows whats going on with these packages that are broken?05:34
swimhey folks, are there packages for alphacube theme... and/or milkesque-for-baghira theme?05:34
sahooeFinally I dump the forums to instant action in the Xchat05:34
Ayidensahooe: I know i have heard of that error before05:34
sahooeok05:34
Ayidensahooe: well this forum has never let me down before I have used #kubuntu and #mepis05:34
Ayidenmepis are pretty good at this sort of thing05:35
Ayidenyou will find your answer in IRC though05:35
sahooeok then05:35
AyidenMUCH faster than forums05:35
sahooeyea05:35
ejofeewhen i want to uninstall konqueror, it also wants to uninstall kcontrol? why does kubuntu package them like that? kcontrol should be separated from konqueror05:35
Ayidenstay in here05:35
Ayidentoo05:35
sahooeok05:35
MrCleversahooe: in fstab, the "defaults" refers to the following options - rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.05:36
MrCleversahooe: don't set options twice.05:37
Ayidenyeah05:37
sahooewhat should be the line then?05:37
Ayidenit works fine on mine those are my default values05:37
MrCleverWhat file system are you trying to mount?05:37
sahooeit's like this now: /dev/hda3       /lucas          ext3    defaults,uid=0,gid=100,auto,rw,nouser        0       205:38
sahooeext305:38
MrCleverwhy specify a uid and gid for a native file system?05:38
sahooedon't know05:38
AyidenMrClever: I didnt link it was native05:38
Ayidenthink*05:38
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MrCleverJust mount it and "chown -R user:group /mount/point" after mounting it with defaults :)05:38
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Ayidenif its native you can those off05:39
MrCleverext3 == linux native file system,05:39
sahooeso I mount it again?05:39
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swimi just did a "Full Upgrade" in Adept... (right after first install of kubuntu 5.10 ... is that a good idea? (never used Adept before)05:40
Ayidenswim: normally full upgraded are bad but its normally alright in kubuntu because of the way they set their dpkg's up05:41
MrCleversahooe: depends - if you don't mount it you can always just guess how it might turn out :P05:41
swimAyiden: ... hmm so should I cancel it or just let it go?05:41
Ayidenswim: make sure its not updating your running kerenl or video drivers05:42
sahooei'm triyng to do the chown thing now05:42
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Ayidenit DOES give you an extra kernel image in case somthing gos wrong which is nice05:42
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: found it! http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2642605:42
MrCleversahooe: so the file system is mounted then?05:43
swimAyiden, I actually havent installed a different kernel from the original on install, or video drivers yet... I was going to install the i686 kernel, and nvidia drivers after this upgrade though...05:43
sahooeI did the chown now05:43
AyidenMrClever: if you can get that partition working thanks alot Im not that good with ftab and mtab troubles05:43
sahooeI think it's mounted because I can read the files and everything05:43
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HobbseeVoodoo_Vibe: yay!05:44
sahooebut when the system is booting, there's an error mounting the fs system05:44
Ayidensahooe: it mounts?05:44
MrCleverAyiden: ext3 doesn't support the gid/uid options ;)05:44
Voodoo_VibeHobbsee: thanx for the help looking05:44
sahooeyes, but the partition is 100GB and I can only use 20GB05:44
Hobbseeno problems05:44
AyidenMrClever: thank you I just noticed I copied that from a fat32 section im sorry about that sahooe05:45
sahooeMrClever: how should be my mount line for the fstab file then?05:45
Ayidensahooe: do you have 2 seperate partitions? or are you saying that you can only get 20gb on the whole 120 partition?05:45
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arcanistheroguehey, when i install baghira from the repositories, where is the baghira folder located05:46
MrCleversahooe: the only way a 100GB whould be limited to 20GB would be if you are using LVM or the partition isn't actually 100GB.05:46
sahooeyes, it is 1 disk of 120GB with 2 partitions: hda1 with 20GB, hda3 with 100GB05:46
arcanistheroguei want to install this baghira milky theme but i cant find the right folde05:46
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MrCleverThe DRIVE might be 100GB, and you are trying to mount a 20GB partition maybe?05:46
swim to replace kdeprint 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu (using .../kdeprint_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...05:46
swimUnpacking replacement kdeprint ...05:46
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swimAyiden: for example:05:46
Ayidenokay so hda1 is fine its hda3 thats giving the erroe correct05:46
swimthat up there is one of the things its doing... does that look ok?05:46
sahooeduring the kubuntu installation, I think LVM was used, I don't know what it is though :(05:47
Ayidenyes thats fine05:47
Ayidenswim: yes thats alright05:47
sahooeyes, correct, hda3 is the problem05:47
MrCleversahooe: to mount a ext3 partition try this:  /dev/hd[a-d] [0-9]   /lucas ext3 defaults  1   205:47
Ayidenyou should restart kde when you finished tho05:47
swimok thanks05:47
MrCleverreplace [a-d] [0-9]  with whatever your drive and partition correxpond to05:47
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sahooeok, that's in the fstab file right?05:48
merlinoInsomniac-: i had 200 instances of the server config file running: that is why it wouldn't update hte list.05:48
Ayidenswim: if it asks you to replace a configuration file you might not want to do that if you find that the program thats using it is working fine okay05:48
sahooeok here is the line again: /dev/hda3  /lucas ext3 defaults  1   205:49
Slyder0244i'm having a problem installing a couple apps i keep getting an error that says it can't find x includes05:49
Slyder0244anyone have any ideas why05:49
sahooenow what should I do?05:49
MrCleversahooe: yes.  To mount from the command line: sudo mount /dev/hd?? /lucas05:49
Hobbsee!xincludes05:50
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev05:50
MrCleversahooe: mount should be smart enough to detect its an ext3 partition :)05:50
Hobbsee!tell Slyder0244 about xincludes05:50
Slyder0244many thanx ubotu05:50
Slyder0244or hobbsee i should say05:50
Slyder0244no reason to thank the bot05:50
Hobbsee:)05:50
Hobbseehehe05:50
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bimberiSlyder0244: you can always say "ubotu: thanks" :)05:51
sahooeMrClever: ok, now what?05:51
Ayidenbimberi: will it answer?05:52
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Ayidenubotu: thanks05:52
ubotupas de quoi, Ayiden05:52
Ayidenha ha05:52
bimberiAyiden: there you go :)05:52
Ayidennice05:52
sahooeok great, in the System Settings, the partition is now enabled!! xD05:53
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merlinoInsomniac-: if you wanna listen to soviet radio, my entire library is up and working now05:53
sahooebut now there's no files in the mount point!!05:54
ilba7rsahoee what you mean by no files in mount point. What did you try to mount and how you mounted it05:55
sahooehelp plz my files are gone05:56
sahooei did the sudo mount thing05:56
Voodoo_Vibehehe... im playing music in xmms then i tested tuxpaint the music stopped and the paint programs sound replaced it.. when i closed it xmms continued.....the price for a onboard soundcard!05:56
ilba7rsahooe the files are still there if you did not delete them intentionally05:57
ilba7rok are you mounting a partition05:57
MrCleversahooe: is the file system mounted?05:57
ilba7rwindow, jump drive, linux05:57
sahooeit's mounted now but no files!05:57
sahooeonly the lost+found directory05:58
MrCleverin that case - it's empty :)05:58
MrCleverdid you reformat this partition?05:58
sahooei think the files are somewhere because the first partition is still full, but where?05:59
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MrCleversahooe: how many partitions are there on the drive?  try unmounting the partition and mount a different one.05:59
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ilba7rsaho type cat /etc/mstab in a terminal and see if your partition is correct there06:00
swimis it not a good idea to use debian packages in kubuntu?06:00
ilba7rsorry cat /etc/mtab06:00
sahooeyeah, there are the partitions06:01
bimberiswim: no, is there one in particular you're after?06:01
swimbimberi: oh yes, something called: YaKuake ... http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2915306:02
ilba7rdid you put the right flag what type of file system it is06:02
sahooesorry, which flag?06:03
ilba7rwhat type of partition you want to mount06:03
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sahooeExt3, it's mounted now, but the files that used to be there are gone06:03
bimberiswim: you could try installing it. Just make sure that any dependencies come from the ubuntu repositories (if possible)06:04
ilba7rswim it is generally not a good idea06:05
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swimbimberi: ok, does that go for most debian packages ?  Or should I look into creating my own packages? (I used to run archlinux, where building packages was a sinch)06:05
sahooeMrClever: how can i recovery my files?06:05
KnowerrorsHey all, trying to get ntpdate to work, tried sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com 14 Dec 21:02:28 ntpdate[4260] : no server suitable for synchronization found06:05
HobbseeKnowerrors: how do you make ntpupdate work anyway?06:06
KnowerrorsI have it execute after my modem connects to internet06:07
Hobbseeooh, i see...06:07
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bimberiswim: generally it's ok for applications that don't have dependant packages (or groups of packages in their own dependant set).  The big NoNo is adding debian repositories.  I real recipe for diaster :)06:07
bimberiswim: hopefully that makes sense :)06:07
sahooesomeone please where is my data now???06:07
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swimtotally does bimberi thx06:08
bimberis/I/A/06:08
ilba7rswim check out the checkinstall package it will create a deb binary for you from source06:08
HobbseeKnowerrors:06:09
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com06:09
Hobbsee15 Dec 16:08:30 ntpdate[15341] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset -0.129795 sec06:09
Hobbseeseems to be working06:09
swimok will do ilba7r06:10
sahooewill someone help me please to recovery my files?06:10
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KnowerrorsHobbsee: are you in KDE now? do you have time set to update auto?06:11
HobbseeKnowerrors: in kde3.5, breezy06:11
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sahooeat least to unmount the partition to see my files like before??06:11
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Hobbseei havent changed the defaults - i know it checks with the ntp server on boot06:11
ilba7rsahooe to unmount just type sudo umount /dev/your partition name06:11
ilba7rex sudo umount /dev/hda206:12
ilba7rsahoee could you use the paste on the pastebin the output of cat /etc/mtab for me06:13
sahooeilba7r: ok, i unmounted and the files are back there06:13
sahooehere is the content of /etc/mtab:06:14
sahooe/dev/hda1 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 006:14
sahooeproc /proc proc rw 0 006:14
sahooesysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 006:14
sahooedevpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 006:14
sahooetmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 006:15
ilba7ri assume that you did not mount two partitons to the same directory06:15
ilba7rsahooe use the pastebin06:15
ilba7rlook at the top of the channel06:15
sahooesorry mand06:15
ilba7rno prob :)06:15
MrCleversahooe: if you deleted them they're effectively gone unless you want to send it to a data recovery specialist.  It's not like FAT where you can simply "undelete"/06:16
sahooeno, I unmounted the drive and the files are again there06:16
ilba7rok where did you want to mount it sahooe06:16
sahooeI'll only set another mountpoint06:16
ilba7rcan you type the command you used06:16
MrCleversahooe: ah - then mount the drive somewhere else, and copy the files over.06:17
Ayidensahooe: see how much mor help you get faster in an IRC06:17
sahooeYeah, MrClever. I was getting hysterical jeje06:17
Ayidenokay well gtg later every06:17
Ayidenbody06:17
Ayidenha ha06:17
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ilba7rMrClever i suspect he mounted both partitions to the same place06:17
sahooeyes, that was the mistake06:18
ilba7rok take care than06:18
MrCleversahooe: you're mounting in /lucas right?  So do this: "sudo mkdir /mnt/temp ; sudo mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/temp ; cd /mnt/tmp ; sudo cp -a /lucas ./" without the ""06:18
sahooethanks man06:18
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sahooeok, I'm doing the directory now06:18
MrCleversahooe: "cp -a" will preserve owner/group and mode, recurse and preserve atime.  It's a short-hand for "archive" :)06:19
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sahooebut I have to change the /etc/fstab right?06:19
ilba7rright if you want to permenantly mount it06:20
MrClevernup - if you give mount all the details it needs, it wont try and "fill in the blanks" from fstab06:20
swimi forget whats the package with needed applications for building from source? build-essentials?06:20
_cedrichi! i know there is a wiki page to have ubuntu running on xfce, without gnome or kde... is there any page to get enlightment06:20
_cedric?06:21
ilba7r_cedric enlightenment is a window manager gnome kde are desktop environments06:21
ilba7rthere is a huge diff06:21
_cedricho i c so xfce is a window manager too?06:21
MrCleversahooe: Once you've verified the files are on the other drive, "cd /lucas ; sudo rm -rf ./"06:21
swimi thought e17 was a full on desktop enviro06:22
_cedrici thought too06:22
ilba7ryah but the project have collected some other packages for it too like rox file manager06:22
sahooeMrClever: ok, man, thanks for the help. I'm copying now the files xD06:22
MrClevere17 is still in beta right?06:22
ilba7rright06:22
swimyes I believe so...06:22
MrCleversahooe: sweet.  Glad I could help out.06:22
_cedricho ok06:22
MrClevergotta fly - trains don't wait....l8r peeps06:24
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Knowerrorsanybody know how to edit iptables to allow the port ntpdate uses?06:27
ilba7rknowerrors how about downloading a firewall. It is basically a frontend for editing iptables06:29
ilba7ri use firestarter but for kde people recommend guarddog06:29
sahooeilba7r: thanks for everything man. my pc is steaming now xD06:29
KnowerrorsI tried firestarter, locked me down completely, no net access and couldn't change things06:29
ilba7rsahooe take care my friend you are welcomed :)06:30
ilba7rthat is strange for i prefer it for its easy06:30
ilba7rthis might be your prob that firestarter locked something for you06:30
sahooeseeya all KUBUNTU rules!!!!06:30
ilba7rrun the startup script again from firestarter06:31
KnowerrorsI uninstalled firestarter (purged) and iptables, then reinstalled iptables06:31
ilba7rmake sure to select the correct network device06:31
ilba7rbye sahooe06:31
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swimdoes anyone have Milkesque for baghira installed?06:34
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: you there?06:36
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Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd: yah06:38
T3hWiz0rdi found out what was wrong06:38
T3hWiz0rdi had over 200 instances of the config file running in the process list06:38
T3hWiz0rdthat was one hecka mess to clean up lol06:38
Insomniac-heh06:38
T3hWiz0rdbut now its got a nice 2000 song mix of music going06:38
Insomniac-i found out what was rolling inside of my dvd player when i moved the case06:39
T3hWiz0rdwhat?06:39
Insomniac-some piece of plastic06:39
T3hWiz0rdlol06:39
T3hWiz0rdi broke a microwave at work, i think im gonna get ripped a new one for that06:39
Insomniac-looks like it was designed to keep some cable or piece of hardware in place06:39
Insomniac-but it doesn't fit anywhere06:39
Insomniac-how did you manage that?06:40
T3hWiz0rdi bent down to get something out from a shelf wand hwen i went back up one of hte door hooks caught onmy shirt and broke06:40
Insomniac-that sucks06:41
T3hWiz0rd...for them06:41
T3hWiz0rdi didn't say anything lol06:41
T3hWiz0rdenogh people use it that no one can really get blamed06:41
Insomniac-that doesn't make it the right thing to do ;)06:42
Insomniac-17 minutes until i can finally get some cigarettes :)06:44
Insomniac-all the excitement of newyear without people to share it with06:45
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T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: this america no one does the right thing anymore06:46
T3hWiz0rd:-P06:46
T3hWiz0rdits not hip anymore06:46
bogaI need to have kDE header files installed but the system tells me they are not installable. ANy help?06:46
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Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd: morality has become a fashion victim?06:48
T3hWiz0rdmichael jackson did, didn't he?06:48
swimanyone know what the package with kde header files is called?06:49
Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd: michael did what? become a fashion victim?06:50
T3hWiz0rdyup06:50
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swimanyone?06:54
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Voodoo_VibeThe sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found. could someone tell me what i need?? cant find any sdl-config06:57
Knowerrorsanybody here use Kmyfirewall?06:58
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T3hWiz0rd:-D06:59
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Voodoo_VibeThe sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found. could someone tell me what i need?? cant find any sdl-config06:59
kalenedraelsudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev07:00
Voodoo_Vibekalenedrael: Thanx!07:00
kalenedraelNo problem.07:00
T3hWiz0rdcan someone tell me of a pocket pc program to access the terminal? ssh in to my computers at home?07:00
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kalenedraelAlso, just because your question isn't answered within three minutes doesn't mean you should repeat it :P07:01
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benplautdoes kubuntu use .xinitrc, or .xsession, or what for startup programs?07:01
Voodoo_Vibekalenedrael: yeah i know didnt mean too.. accidentally pressed up arrow07:02
kalenedrael:P07:02
kalenedraelHeh.07:02
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T3hWiz0rdbenplaut: i like that quit message07:03
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benplautT3hWiz0rd: i have no clue what it is :/07:04
T3hWiz0rdbenplaut: 23:02 (*) benplaut [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com]  has quit ["in Soviet Russa, beta breaks YOU!"] 07:04
benplautoh07:04
benplautthat one :)07:04
benplautit was dapper breaks you, but i'm in alot of non-ubuntu channels :)07:04
T3hWiz0rdlol07:04
benplautalthough, it was much better in the hoary days, breezy breaks you07:05
Voodoo_VibeWarning: No beer found in fridge!   WTF! i was trying to compile Scorched3d!07:06
Voodoo_Vibeand i got beer in the fridge!07:06
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benplautnow, lets see if Linus was right07:10
Voodoo_VibeThe openal-config script installed by OpenAL could not be found. could someone tell me what i need? ive installed libopenal-dev07:11
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Voodoo_Vibedid anyone answer when i before i logged out?07:18
benplautVoodoo_Vibe: nope07:19
Voodoo_Vibehmmm... too bad07:19
benplautis there any way to set so that when scrolling on the pager applet, it doesn't go past desktop 4, back to 1?07:20
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_gryphonhello!07:23
_gryphoni was wondering...07:23
_gryphonhow can i set up things to autostart.. edit the sessions perse07:24
_gryphonand how can i change that annoying click from single to double >?>07:24
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ilba7ropen the kde control center07:25
ilba7rand setup the click there07:25
Voodoo_VibeThe openal-config script installed by OpenAL could not be found. could someone tell me what i need? ive installed libopenal-dev07:25
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_gryphonwhere do i find the control center ?07:26
Voodoo_Vibetype kcontrol in konsole07:26
ilba7rvoodo check using kynaptic if there is an openAL dev lib or package that you need to install07:27
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ilba7rlibopenal-dev07:27
_gryphonnot installed Voodoo_Vibe hehe what package should i grab for that>??07:27
ilba7rsudo apt-get install kcontrol07:28
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ilba7rvoodo for any missing lib you should look for the -dev package of that lib07:29
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: i have installed libopenal-dev and everything i got when i searched for openal in adept... but no luck07:29
ilba7rvodoo what are you trying to install07:29
CryptoQuickHello; I'm having a bit of difficulty using amaroK and Kaffeine to stream music from the internet.07:29
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r:Scorched3d07:30
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: www.scorched3d.co.uk07:30
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ilba7rthere are other libopneal-dev available07:31
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benplaut./configure07:31
benplautwoops07:31
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benplautin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.07:32
ilba7rall i can say just look into the site which one yo need07:32
benplaut...which dev files are needed to compile a kicker applet?07:32
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: ok. Thanx!07:32
ilba7rsorry man wanted to be of more help07:32
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: no worries. im glad u pointed me in some direction!07:33
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: but i got more problem maybe u could help me with :)07:34
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CryptoQuickSo, um, how can I play streamed music on Kubuntu?07:34
T3hWiz0rdCryptoQuick: amarok?07:34
CryptoQuickI've tried both amaroK and Kaffeine.07:35
T3hWiz0rdwhat type of steaming file?07:35
T3hWiz0rd.pls, .ogg?07:35
CryptoQuickThis: http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/102407:35
hussamsomething is wrong with my system since I last rebooted. the booting is way too slow and it switches to verbose mode automatically at half the boot process.07:35
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r:everytime i start KDE i have to set my screen to 60Hz, and when i restart its back at 75Hz. where can i change that so it starts with 60Hz??07:35
hussamanybody has an idea?07:35
T3hWiz0rdICY 404 Resource Not Found07:35
T3hWiz0rdicy-notice1:SHOUTcast Distributed Network Audio Server/posix v1.8.1<BR>07:35
CryptoQuickLet me look at that again.07:36
ilba7rhussam the system check the file system integrety every 30 boots07:36
ilba7rvoodoo i can only think of kcontrol center07:36
ilba7rdo not know why it keep changing though07:37
CryptoQuickKaffeine tells me that there's no URI handler to open an HTTP stream.07:37
ilba7rby the way i stopped using kde and now on enlightenment07:37
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: yeah me too. But thats where i have to change it everytime07:37
CryptoQuickOr something like that.07:37
hussamilba7r: yeah but that's not it.  I rebooted twice and it keeps happening without doing the fscheck07:37
T3hWiz0rdCryptoQuick: it seems like the site is down right now07:37
T3hWiz0rdCryptoQuick: which would make it out of your control.07:38
hussamilba7r: also S98usplash is still running even after I logged in to kde07:38
CryptoQuickT3hWiz0rd: Let me get a second opinion from my powerbook.07:39
T3hWiz0rdCryptoQuick: roger.07:39
ilba7ri am trying to locate the right file to look into hussam07:39
ilba7rall logs are in the dir /va/log07:40
ilba7rso try to look into syslog file will give you an idea what might be wrong07:41
CryptoQuickT3hWiz0rd: It works fine in Mac OS X.07:41
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T3hWiz0rdCryptoQuick: the link you gave me doesn't work for me07:41
fatejudgerwhat the hell is up with the latest apt-get upgrade?07:41
T3hWiz0rdCryptoQuick: and im on my mac07:41
hussamilba7r: I checked the syslog, nothing wrong withy it07:42
fatejudgermy text in compete is all blurry, and anti-alaisy07:42
fatejudger*kopete07:42
fatejudgershit I'm tired07:42
CryptoQuickT3hWiz0rd: Try this- http://www.di.fm/mp3/eurodance.pls07:43
T3hWiz0rdworkin for me :-D07:43
T3hWiz0rdlet me try on my kubuntu box07:43
merlino CryptoQuick works on my kubuntu box07:44
merlinoCryptoQuick: so you might simply be missing the file.07:44
CryptoQuickWhich file? The .pls file?07:45
merlinoCryptoQuick: yeah./07:45
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CryptoQuickmerlino: It connects to the stream, but the music doesn't play, since it's buffering. Once the buffering gets to 100%, it starts over again.07:46
adaptanyone booted the flight 2 live cd on ppc?07:47
merlinoCryptoQuick: do you have file support for it?07:47
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CryptoQuickIt's a streaming mp3. Don't tell me that Ubuntu can't play mp3s.07:47
merlinoCryptoQuick: well, not be default anyway.07:48
merlinoCryptoQuick: easy fix... sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins07:48
CryptoQuickGotcha.07:49
_gryphonarg07:51
_gryphonthis is really frustrating sorry...07:51
_gryphoni just cant find the setting to make things double click instead of single click in teh systemsettingss07:51
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ilba7r_-gry i think it is under window behaviour or mouse in kcontrol07:52
CryptoQuickmerlino: I have most of the gstreamer and libraries installed. I can't find the exact one you pointed me to, but I have the plugin-apps one.07:52
ilba7r_and lol op to you it took me time to set it to single click rather than double one :)07:53
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_gryphonaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh07:55
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_gryphonty!!!!!!07:55
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ilba7r_lol ok though i do not know what huggle mean but you are welcomed :)07:56
_gryphonhehe like a hug but warmer07:56
_gryphon:)07:56
ilba7r_cool07:56
ilba7r_:)07:56
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ilba7r_cryptoquick no harm07:58
ilba7r_which do you prefer gnome or kde07:58
CryptoQuickKDE, that's why I'm in this channel.07:58
_gryphoni prefer to do server install then gui install myself...07:58
_gryphonsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:58
merlinoCryptoQuick: just apt-get install xmms07:58
_gryphon:)07:58
merlinoCryptoQuick: that usually resolves mp3 support for me lol07:58
_gryphonlol merlino07:58
ilba7r_ok07:58
merlino_gryphon: it worked for me once :-P07:58
ilba7r_type in a channel07:58
_gryphonsudo apt-get install xmms-alarm !!!107:58
CryptoQuickThanks, you two. I'm just going to install from CD again.07:59
ilba7r_sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:59
_gryphonCryptoQuick: thats crazy talk07:59
ilba7r_will insstall everything you need07:59
_gryphonyes that metapackage is kde ;)07:59
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merlinoCryptoQuick: reinstalling will NOT resolve the mp3 support.07:59
_gryphonsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  <<<------ !!!!!!!07:59
CryptoQuickNo! I mean!07:59
merlinoCryptoQuick: be patient, i have documents on it.07:59
CryptoQuickI'm installing Kubuntu on an old x86 computer with 128 megs of RAM *while* I'm troubleshooting my PPC Mac mini's sound issues.08:00
_gryphonlol08:00
CryptoQuickSo, um, sorry to be confusing. :)08:00
_gryphonok so we got kde fixxored :D08:00
_gryphonnow for mp308:00
_gryphonno sound at all?08:00
_gryphonor just no mp308:01
CryptoQuickNo MP3. I get error zots all the time.08:01
_gryphonwhat errors?08:01
ilba7r_try doccumentation on ubuntu web page08:01
CryptoQuickYou know, when you try to delete too far in the command line, or do something stupid, you know.08:01
_gryphonnot really :P08:01
_gryphonbut ok :D08:02
_gryphonwhat do they say?08:02
CryptoQuick;)08:02
CryptoQuickBeep, beep, beep?08:02
_gryphon[im just guessing you mean popup] 08:02
_gryphonno mssg?08:02
CryptoQuickNo, um... Beeps.08:02
_gryphondid you check systemlog?08:02
_gryphonand were u ever able to play mp3's08:02
CryptoQuickIt's not an issue! I'm getting sound, it's just not playing streaming audio!08:02
_gryphonah08:02
CryptoQuickI've not downloaded an mp3 yet.08:03
_gryphonSTREAMING audio08:03
merlinoCryptoQuick: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad08:03
ilba7r_crypto what type of codec you used08:03
ilba7r_you can have wincodec or gstreamer08:03
CryptoQuickSomething like... salsa.08:03
merlinoCryptoQuick: if it doesn't download make sure your universe repository is open in your sources.list08:03
ilba7r_i prefer wincodec08:03
merlinoCryptoQuick: but that will add mp3 support08:03
_gryphonive a 3.9mb mp3 if ya wanna test lol08:03
_gryphon!sources08:04
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:04
_gryphonthats standard one... i use different one from automatix... let me paste it08:04
CryptoQuickI wouldn't know how to get it from you, gryph. Merlin, let me check my package.08:04
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CryptoQuickALSA. not salsa.08:04
CryptoQuick(my bad)08:05
ilba7r_have a look at that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:05
Insomniac-salsa would make a much better name08:05
_gryphoneh thats part of it yes ilba7r_08:05
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CryptoQuickMerlin, it's telling me that *mad has no installation candidate.08:06
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CryptoQuick(Bunnymon's Level3 server is owned by a company 'round here in Denver. :)08:07
Insomniac-bunnymon: there are torrents iirc08:07
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bunnymonInsomniac, I've never used torrent and I have to download in WinXP.08:08
_gryphonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/577508:08
_gryphontry that CryptoQuick08:08
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=== CryptoQuick doesn't know what he's looking at.
Insomniac-bunnymon: torrent is a p2p downloading mechanism with hash checking, it's a reliable and scalable way to download08:08
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_gryphon /etc/apt/sources.list08:09
_gryphonthats what your packages look in and grab from ;)08:09
_gryphonso in terminal: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:09
CryptoQuickOh! Right! I remember that much.08:09
_gryphontoss that in08:09
_gryphonclose and save08:09
_franknot sudo kate08:09
_gryphonsudo apt-get update08:10
bunnymonInsomniac: I am downloading Bitterrent for windows.08:10
_frankkdesu kate08:10
_gryphoner ok or that?08:10
Insomniac-bunnymon: installing a bittorrent client is no more difficult than setting up a download manager08:10
_gryphoni dont even use kde that much sorry ....08:10
_franksudo kate crashes kate08:10
_gryphonanyway so toss those in that file and update08:10
bunnymonInsomniac: Ok.08:10
_gryphoni wonder why _frank08:10
_frank_gryphon: not too sure...08:11
CryptoQuickMaybe kate doesn't like you?08:11
bunnymonInsomniac: What is the best Torrent downloader for windows?08:11
_gryphon_frank: any way to tell gdesklets to start on kde start?08:11
CryptoQuickAzureus, I would have to say.08:11
Insomniac-bunnymon: depends on what you prefer, i used azureus08:11
CryptoQuick:D08:11
_gryphoni know there was something in gnome to do stuff like that.. but i didnt see in kde :D08:11
_frankbunnymon: I use azureus but if you don't have java already maybe just the the original bittorrent08:12
_gryphonNOOOOOOOOOO do NOT use that original client unless its an emergency08:12
Insomniac-bunnymon: if you're just interested in one torrent the client doesn't really matter08:12
_gryphonthat thing is horrid... and banned on a lot of trackers... the only thing its got going is the dht08:12
_gryphonbittornado // azureus are the only way to go08:13
CryptoQuickJust get Java. If you don't have it already, you'd need it anyway. It's useful.08:13
bunnymonOk thanx yall.08:13
_gryphonya08:13
_gryphonyall should check out that automatix on the forums08:13
_gryphonvery nice bash ;)08:13
CryptoQuickLink?08:13
_gryphonubuntuforums.net08:13
_gryphoner08:13
_gryphonubuntuforums.org08:14
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CryptoQuickAutomatix?08:14
_gryphonsorry different user on new install dont have the link on this one08:14
_gryphonyeah08:14
bunnymonI have Java, can't live without it. :)08:14
_gryphonor search for easy linux :P08:14
Tm_Toh no...08:14
_gryphonbunnymon: then you must use azureus08:14
_gryphonnothing else will do if you have teh linux08:14
_gryphon:D08:14
_gryphoner08:14
Tm_Tmy advice: stay away from automatix etc08:14
_gryphonjava08:14
bunnymonWill do. :)08:14
_gryphonTm_T: any particular reason there?08:15
bunnymonNeed another cup. lol08:15
Tm_T_gryphon: many, first of all, when you use those to install stuff, you don't learn about your system at all08:15
_gryphonlol08:16
Insomniac-Tm_T: that's not necessarily a bad thing08:16
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_gryphonit depends on the user08:16
Tm_TInsomniac-: in most times it's very bad08:16
_gryphonand frankly for kde its a tester experience08:16
Insomniac-Tm_T: agreed, but it's interesting for easy corporate deployment08:16
_gryphonpersonally i liked it08:16
_gryphonbut i run gnome and kde08:16
CryptoQuickOkay, this is driving me nuts. amaroK is streaming the mp3 just fine, but the audio isn't coming through.08:16
_gryphonlol08:16
_gryphonlessee...08:17
CryptoQuickThe titles are even coming up on my screen every now and then.08:17
_gryphonis it going to a null something or other?08:17
CryptoQuickWhere?08:17
_gryphonforgot the term08:17
_gryphonwhen its confused it goes to a null outlet08:17
_gryphonhummm08:17
_gryphondl a mp3 and make sure you can play in the first place man08:18
_gryphon!w32codecs08:18
bunnymonOk, what's the fasted download site for the ISO?08:18
CryptoQuickSure... Where would I find a good mp3?08:18
Tm_TInsomniac-: first of all, those are only tools to install stuff, when you like/have to remove something, you have to use some apt frontend... wait a second, install can be done with apt frontends too :o08:18
Tm_Tand it's not that hard ;)08:18
Insomniac-Tm_T: i thought automatix was a system for compressed program images? removal would be as simple as deleting the image?08:19
Tm_Tsecond thing, I always hate those --force switches in scripts08:19
Tm_TInsomniac-: nope08:19
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Insomniac-oh nevermind what i said in that case, must have mixed it up with something else08:19
Tm_Theh08:19
starscallingdo te do te dummm08:20
starscallingthats one08:20
starscallingor you can go to archive.org08:20
CryptoQuickOh, god...08:20
CryptoQuickMy father loves this song. :)08:20
starscallinghaha08:20
Tm_TInsomniac-: you mean Klik ?08:20
starscallingi put it on disk one of all road trip compilations08:20
Insomniac-any torrent clients that can download from http as well for maximum transfer but still having the hash checking?08:20
Insomniac-Tm_T: yeah that's the one08:21
starscallingusually 4-12 disks worth :D08:21
Insomniac-Tm_T: i've been reading too much about new software the last few days08:21
Tm_Theh08:21
starscallingInsomniac-: dl from http?08:21
starscallingso can you play mp3's CryptoQuick08:22
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starscallingbunnymon: not on this chan you dont08:23
Insomniac-bunnymon: torrents form their own p2p network, there is no best site08:23
starscalling#kubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic you can :D08:23
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bunnymonOk, thanx.08:23
starscallingInsomniac-: and thats not even close to true08:23
CryptoQuickstarscalling: Okay, um, it's telling me that the media is unplayable.08:23
starscallingok then!08:23
Insomniac-starscalling: oh?08:24
merlinowhere is nano?08:24
starscallinggo to restricted formats page they listed earlier and do it08:24
starscallingInsomniac-: there are definately better sites than others08:24
Insomniac-starscalling: that's a different issue08:24
starscallingnot at all08:24
starscalling<Insomniac-> bunnymon: torrents form their own p2p network, there is no best site  <<----08:24
Insomniac-starscalling: he was asking about the kubuntu torrent08:24
starscallingfair enough :D08:24
Insomniac-not about illegal warez08:25
starscallingoh my08:25
starscallingsee guys?08:25
starscallingyou talk about torrents and automagically its illegal?08:25
starscallingyou might think someone didnt even know how to think08:25
starscallingor read08:25
starscallinglol08:25
Insomniac-where did i say torrents are illegal?08:25
CryptoQuickWarez? You must mean Juarez... I've never heard of these "warez."08:25
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starscallingyou immediately went to warez08:25
starscallingsure there are those08:26
starscallingand there are many legit only sites08:26
Insomniac-most torrent sites *are* warez sites08:26
starscallingsure08:26
starscallingmost http sites are the same08:26
CryptoQuickIs downloading subbed anime illegal?08:26
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starscallingCryptoQuick: we dont wanna do that one08:26
Insomniac-CryptoQuick: sketchy at best08:26
starscallingshort answer yes08:26
CryptoQuickGAH!08:26
starscallingdo i care?08:26
starscallingfuck no08:26
starscallingive a couple TB08:27
CryptoQuick...08:27
CryptoQuick:)08:27
starscallingbut thats an entirely different issue08:27
CryptoQuickOK.08:27
starscallinganyway08:27
starscallingso get that stuff in teh system08:27
starscallingdid you update that sources list?08:27
bunnymonNice discussion.08:27
Insomniac-CryptoQuick: some people claim it's legal if there is no legal alternative08:27
starscallingjust installing xmms might help lol08:27
Insomniac-CryptoQuick: it's still copyrighted material however08:27
starscallingInsomniac-: im certainly not one of em08:27
starscallingand i dont download where its actually held under copywrite08:27
burepe2I am going to take out my cdrom and put in a dvd rw/cd rw. Will kubuntu recognize it right away and mount it or do I have to do something to make it work?08:28
CryptoQuickInsomniac: It's distributed freely on the airwaves. Why should it not be free on the internet?08:28
starscallingthough i might have a hand here and there in translation08:28
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starscallingCryptoQuick: b/c of how its liscensed08:28
Insomniac-CryptoQuick: that's the way copyright works08:28
starscallingeven the translation of the work is technically illegal08:28
CryptoQuickInsomniac: What about time shifting and all that?08:28
bunnymonI know nuthin', just creating more Java.08:28
starscallingthough most of the companies dont care till its liscensed in the usa08:28
starscallingthen they come down a bit08:28
Insomniac-CryptoQuick: that could fall under fair use08:28
Insomniac-depending on where in the world you are08:29
starscallingtime shifting?08:29
starscallingwhats that before i crash out for the nite08:29
starscallingInsomniac-: ? CryptoQuick ??08:29
Insomniac-CryptoQuick: if you're interested in copyright law i suggest you read up on the law in your country08:29
CryptoQuickTime shifting is where you record video and...08:29
CryptoQuick...play it back later.08:30
starscallingah08:30
starscallingsee if its on your airwaves it should be legal08:30
CryptoQuickIndeed!08:30
starscallingbut if you didnt do the recording then its not08:30
starscalling[for sure] 08:30
starscalling[in the usa] 08:30
starscalling:D08:30
CryptoQuick:(08:30
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starscallinglets not talk about TB08:30
starscallingi need to sleep08:30
CryptoQuickGoodnight.08:30
starscallinglater skater :D08:31
starscallingo wait08:31
starscallingdo you know how i can tell gdesklets to start up every time kde does?08:31
starscallingthe session manager didnt catch it08:31
bunnymonHow do you get smartlink modem to work in kubuntu?08:31
kalenedraelPut it in the .kde/Autostart dir or something...08:31
Insomniac-bunnymon: is that a 'winmodem' ?08:32
bunnymonYes.08:32
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bunnymonI know not good to use. but I need a digital modem.  :(08:32
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Insomniac-bunnymon: google for linux and the modem name, see what turns up08:33
Insomniac-winmodems are not very well supported as far as i know08:33
bunnymonI've tried all that and still nothing.08:33
CryptoQuickDon't they have to be reverse-engineered or something?08:34
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CryptoQuickThe corporations don't want you to know how their software works, so they don't tell you how to use it with anything but the way they want you to.08:34
bunnymonUbuntu installs the modem but don't recognise it.  It ride on Alsa and the sound card.08:34
Insomniac-bunnymon: the problem is winmodems are mostly software and the manufacturers don't provide linux drivers or the specs so it's very hard to support them (and all that to save a few bucks on each modem :/)08:34
CryptoQuick(it's an anti-consumer conspiracy that will destroy the free world as we know it)08:35
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ilba7r_bunnymon did you use the scanmodem utility08:35
bunnymonInsomniac: Do you know a good Digital modem, i can't use a anolog.08:36
bunnymonI have a compatable serial but it's anolog.  :(08:36
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Insomniac-bunnymon: no you'd have to search for a hardware one.. or you could use an external one08:36
Insomniac-those are all hardware as far as i know08:36
ilba7r_you can also check they normally have it as a selling tag linux compatible08:37
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Insomniac-and what do you mean by digital modem? a MODEM (MOdulator DEModulater) is a device usually used to transmit digital information over analog networks08:38
CryptoQuickTrue, that's a bit confusing...08:38
merlinowhat is the best p2p solution for kubuntu?08:38
bunnymonThe problem is it has to work on an internal phone system that's digital.  I cannot find a compatable modem that is digital.08:38
CryptoQuickHow do your other computers use the internet?08:39
Insomniac-bunnymon: what kind of phone system? ISDN?08:39
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bunnymonInsomniac, I have to dial 9 for an outside line.08:40
merlinoanyone?08:40
Insomniac-bunnymon: that doesn't mean anything08:40
Hobbsee!azereus08:40
ubotuHobbsee: Are you smoking crack?08:40
Voodoo_VibeIm buying a new soundcard since mine is onboard VIA. is this supported on Linux?? Creative SB Audigy 4 PCI, 7.1,EAX4.0,Dolby Digital EX08:40
Insomniac-merlino: try mldonkey it does mostly any p2p network08:40
Insomniac-merlino: amule is nice for edonkey08:41
CryptoQuickSoundcards are unnecessary, imho...08:41
bunnymonInsomniac: The building has an internal phone system run by a computer network.  I am not on an anolog line.08:41
merlinoInsomniac-: i might just stick with bittorrent lol08:41
Insomniac-bunnymon: what kind of network? ISDN? VOIP?08:41
Voodoo_VibeCryptoQuick: not if u wanna play Americas Army08:41
CryptoQuickVoodoo_Vibe: Don't give into that fascist BS.08:42
bunnymonInsomniac: I'm not sure, I just rent one of the rooms.08:42
Voodoo_VibeCryptoQuick: LOL!! Yes i am an facist pig!08:42
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Insomniac-bunnymon: ask the person/organisation you're renting from how they provide internet access possibilities08:43
bunnymonInsomniac: I've asked and no luck.08:44
Insomniac-i can't help you if i don't know what kind of system you're trying to interface with08:44
CryptoQuick:) Anyway, why does your game need a soundcard?08:44
CryptoQuickCrap, he left.08:44
Insomniac-bunnymon: how are you connected to the internet now?08:45
bunnymonInsomniac: It's a residential hotel, if that helps.08:46
Insomniac-not really08:48
kalenedraelFree wifi?08:48
kalenedrael(Non-free wifi?)08:48
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Insomniac-bunnymon: according to your hostname you're using some kind of dialup service08:49
bunnymonInsomniac: It's probably standard system becouse of the cost to stay here.08:49
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bunnymonInsomniac: It is dial up.08:49
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Insomniac-bunnymon: is it a modem or isdn adapter?08:50
bunnymonInsomniac: It's a 56k modem.08:51
Insomniac-ah08:51
bunnymonInsomniac: If I could get my Diamond Supra to pick up the dial tone, it's compatable.08:52
Slyder0244i'm getting a make error when trying to compile this app anyone think they can help08:52
Insomniac-that's a hardware modem?08:52
CryptoQuickYou've got a supra? Those are so popular amongst the import crowd...08:52
bunnymonYes, I do and it cannot pick up the digital dial tone.  :(08:53
Insomniac-bunnymon: you just need it to dial the 9 first probably08:53
bunnymonInsomniac: I've tried, it don't work.08:54
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Insomniac-any error messages?08:54
bunnymonInsomniac: I've tried to have it not detect the dial tone and it still dont work.08:55
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bunnymonInsomniac: It's the internal phone system.08:55
Insomniac-bunnymon: i don't know what's wrong08:56
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bunnymonInsomniac: I've talked to others in the area and they all say it's the internal phone system all hotels use in the area.08:57
Insomniac-bunnymon: talk to the hotel08:57
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CryptoQuickYou know, those EDGE and UMTS cards seem to be useful, bunnymon. If you have the money...08:58
bunnymonInsomniac: The best modems is for laptops, I can't afford the pci to pcmcia adapter.08:58
bunnymonInsomniac: They use both digital and anolog phone systems.08:59
Insomniac-bunnymon: in any case they aren't providing a service you're expecting... talk to them and see if it can be worked out somehow08:59
bunnymonInsomniac: I've talked to them they aren't computer savy, they hire someone.09:00
CryptoQuickMake a scene?09:00
Insomniac-just make it their problem too and they'll call someone to fix it09:00
CryptoQuick:)09:01
burepe2is there a way to tell if someone on my network is using a certain ip address?09:01
Hobbseeburepe2: ping it?09:01
bunnymonInsomniac: You want me to get kicked out?09:01
CryptoQuickThat would be netstat, right?09:01
Insomniac-bunnymon: i didn't imply being impolite09:01
burepe2netstat?09:02
CryptoQuickYeah, go into your network utility... What's it called...09:02
Insomniac-bunnymon: just make sure they know the service is important to you, the customer09:02
burepe2there are 5 comps in my house now and 2 are on right now. I pinged 5 addresses and got all the same responses09:02
bunnymonInsomniac: In a residential hotel, you do not want to push the issue even when your nice.09:03
burepe2if the comp is off then i shouldn't beable to ping it right?09:03
CryptoQuickShoot, where's the network utility for KDE?09:03
Insomniac-bunnymon: so they have a take it or leave it policy? doesn't sound like a nice hotel to be09:03
burepe2kdesu kcontrol?09:03
bunnymonInsomniac: It's easier to get a modem that works.  This smartlink is the only one I've found to work for Towers.09:04
CryptoQuickburepe2: I couldn't tell ya, but figure out how to netstat and that will help you out.09:05
bunnymonInsomniac: In a few months I will move to an executive suites residential place.  It will be much better then.09:06
bunnymonbrb, have to install files.09:06
Insomniac-bunnymon: still the wrong way around... you're paying for a service but are not allowed to ask for any actual service09:06
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CryptoQuickWow. It's 1 AM where I live. I really should be going.09:10
CryptoQuickBye, y'all.09:10
merlinoman09:11
merlinosoviet radio is doing so much better on linux lol... its not playing only crappy music anymore.09:11
Insomniac-hehe09:11
Insomniac-why soviet radio? playing hidden messages?09:11
merlinoit attracts attention :-P09:12
Tm_Tcccp!09:12
merlinoa catchy rebelious name for a copyright-rebelious station09:12
Tm_Truski petruski09:12
Insomniac-soviet anarchy 24/709:12
merlinolol09:13
merlinothe iraa tries to charge people 2000 dollars per illegal song they have....09:15
Insomniac-ira or riaa? ;)09:15
merlinothat would put me at... about 4 million dollars09:15
merlinoriaa*09:15
merlino4 million bucks, i'd love for them to sue me for it... I'd just go to iraq and join the insurgency lol09:16
Insomniac-wouldn't change anything though09:16
merlinoit'd be hilarious in its own though.09:16
Insomniac-better to raise awareness and get politicians to change the copyright laws to include fair use and all that09:16
merlino"former american outraged by copyright laws joins terrorist insurgency in iraq"09:17
merlinoInsomniac-: im telling you man... the soviet union never collapsed, they just went into hiding and found a new way to attack americans.They called it Mc Donalds.09:17
Insomniac-now there's a conspiracy theory i haven't heard before09:18
merlinoInsomniac-: funny isn't it?09:18
merlinoInsomniac-: being fat will be the leading cause of death in like 30 years here in the FSA09:18
Insomniac-that's a culture problem, not a capitalism vs communism thing09:19
Insomniac-s/culture/cultural/09:19
merlinoInsomniac-: i know, but i just made a snicker about it... they found an easy way to kill us, make us eat.09:19
merlinoInsomniac-: its bad here man... I heard that a group of obese people planned to sue ford for making the seatbelts too small to fit around their massive guts.09:20
Insomniac-sounds like a film script for a movia troma could make09:20
Insomniac-hahaha09:21
merlinoi doubt ford expected them to be as big as the damn car they were driving though.09:21
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Insomniac-"i can't fit into a normal seat on an airplane and they want to charge me extra, i'm sueing!"09:21
DJ_Mer_lmao... thats classic.09:21
Insomniac-the whole claim culture is weird09:22
Insomniac-you can't keep blaming other people for your problems09:22
DJ_Mer_its disgsuting... because along with the obesity comes the people who pretend they aren't... specifically some of the morbitly large woman.09:22
DJ_Mer_and its disgusting when a woman that could barely fit in a parachute shows too much skin09:22
DJ_Mer_they are making cloths that once only girls who were fit to wear them could fit in.09:22
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DJ_Mer_the other day I was at a mall and this woman who was easily 300 pounds was wearing short shorts and a halter-top... i almost barfed breakfast back up.09:23
Insomniac-lol09:23
DJ_Mer_i mean that is the ultimate level of denial... trying to live like its not a problem.09:24
Insomniac-it's not that bad over here09:24
Insomniac-though still a problem09:24
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DJ_Mer_well because europeans can moderate their diets better...09:24
DJ_Mer_your large drinks and fry's at mc donalds are the american small...09:24
Insomniac-that and making more sensible choices09:24
Insomniac-i haven't walked into a mcdonalds or the like in over 2 years09:25
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DJ_Mer_im working on it, i went on a bindge when i moved to arizona and put on more weight than i ever imagined... but its coming off now... Haven't touched mc donalds in five months or any other fast food.09:25
DJ_Mer_but its not hard to make better choices... these people who eat constently always say they are always hungry... if they simply drank plenty of water they wouldn't be hungry all through the night.09:26
bunnymon_nhbOk I have Azureus, how do I connect to download kubuntu?09:26
Insomniac-bunnymon: download the torrent file09:26
Insomniac-looks like there's no torrent for the cd versions09:27
bunnymon_nhbInsomniac: Is there a server to connect or a search in the program?09:27
Insomniac-bunnymon_nhb: you can download the torrent file for the dvd version on kubuntu.org09:27
bunnymon_nhbI don't have a dvd burner, just a cd version.09:28
DJ_Mer_mm elvis09:28
Insomniac-there doesn't seem to be a cd torrent09:28
Insomniac-you can find ftp/http downloads on http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php09:29
bunnymon_nhbgreat.  My ISP likes to diconnect everyso often and I have to restart downloads from beginning.09:29
Insomniac-oh09:29
Insomniac-there are torrent files on the http/ftp sites09:29
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burepe1? Can someone walk me through setting up a static ip? I have done it before but last time i did it I messed up my system, so I just want to do it tandem this time09:30
Insomniac-check the mirrors09:30
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: man this apple is great09:31
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: i bought it in mexico... everything but the economy is better in mexico lol09:31
Insomniac-hong kong is nice for electronics09:31
Insomniac-they have a lot of stuff not available here09:31
Insomniac-blu ray players, dvd mp3 portable players09:32
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: mexico for food drinks woman cars and TV's09:32
bunnymon_nhbI found a torrent file, why is it 25k?09:32
Insomniac-bunnymon_nhb: it's merely a description of the file and where to find it09:33
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: I WANTED TO TELL HIM THAT09:33
Insomniac-bunnymon_nhb: open the torrent in azureus09:33
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: frickin euro's always one step ahead09:33
Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: ;)09:33
Insomniac-you help him, i'll order my new pc :)09:33
bunnymon_nhbHow do I open it up, from a web browser?09:34
KubuntuPotgood morning all09:34
DJ_Mer_lmao Insomniac- i got somethinfg funny for you to read.09:34
DJ_Mer_(01:34:22) T3h Wiz0rd: amarok is the best media manager i've ever used09:35
DJ_Mer_(01:34:33) T3h Wiz0rd: its like itunes on steroids and angry over its tax return09:35
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burepe1what is the remove directory command09:37
burepe1] ?09:37
DJ_Mer_rm -B isn't it?09:37
aftertafrm -rf09:37
DJ_Mer_meh i suck09:37
bunnymon_nhbInsomniac: I just did it.  I'm getting the CD installer ISO.09:38
Insomniac-bunnymon_nhb :)09:38
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: you look like you need some soviet radio :-D09:39
bunnymon_nhbInsomniac: Does Azureus auto restart if I have to reconnect?09:39
Insomniac-yes if you leave it running09:39
burepe1I mounted a harddrive but it is not showing up in media:/09:40
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Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: i've got a problem with my speakers atm09:40
DJ_Mer_bummer its a radio head songs09:40
burepe1will that not show up until I edit fstab?09:40
bunnymon_nhbInsomniac: Thanx.09:40
bunnymon_nhblater yall, need sleep.09:41
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burepe1When you umount a device does it always reply "umount: /dev/hdb1: not mounted"?09:45
DJ_Mer_:-(09:45
DJ_Mer_I can't get irssi to install to kubuntu09:46
burepe1it seems to mount and umount fine but I thought  it was telling me, "can't umount because it's not mounted"  am i wrong?09:46
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DJ_Mer_how do i get irssi working on kubuntu?09:50
Insomniac-install it?09:51
Insomniac-using irssi right now09:51
Insomniac-burepe1: check your fstab09:51
DJ_Mer_its not working for me09:51
Insomniac-enabled universe and multiverse?09:52
DJ_Mer_yup09:52
DJ_Mer_  irssi: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8a-1) but it is not installable09:52
DJ_Mer_         Depends: perl (>= 5.8.7-8) but 5.8.7-5ubuntu1.2 is to be installed09:52
DJ_Mer_those are my errors09:52
Insomniac-weird09:52
Insomniac-i had no problems installing.. well anything so far09:53
DJ_Mer_iunno what could be causing that.09:53
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burepe1Insomniac-: I didn't add anything to the fstab yet. What am I checking for?09:55
Insomniac-the media mountpoint09:55
Insomniac-see if the line is correct and the mountpoint exists09:55
burepe1there is no line09:57
burepe1if i do sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/120baby should that make a line in fstab?09:58
Insomniac-no that'll just mount it10:00
burepe1yeah10:00
Insomniac-fstab lists what you want the system to mount at boot time10:01
burepe1thats what I was trying to explain10:01
Insomniac-and other stuff like what users can mount10:01
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burepe1(17:40:09) burepe1: I mounted a harddrive but it is not showing up in media:/10:06
burepe1(17:40:50) burepe1: will that not show up until I edit fstab?(17:45:03) burepe1: When you umount a device does it always reply "umount: /dev/hdb1: not mounted"?(17:46:08) burepe1: it seems to mount and umount fine but I thought  it was telling me, "can't umount because it's not mounted"  am i wrong?10:06
burepe1That"s what I was trying to ask10:06
burepe1I haven't edited fstab yet10:06
burepe1I wanna make sure this is not a problem10:07
Insomniac-brb i need to make a phone call10:09
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burepe1Can someone walk me through setting up a static ip? I have done it before but last time i did it I messed up my system, so I just want to do it tandem this time10:09
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DJ_Mer_http://www.pittsburghlive.com/photos/1112bish-a.jpg << lol10:11
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burepe1i have the repositories set up but what are the packages i need to view windows video and audio?10:18
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DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: ISN'T ALIVE10:26
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dushkinHello.10:26
dushkinI'm trying to compile something here10:27
DJ_Mer_dushkin: hows that coming along?10:28
dushkinVery very bad.10:28
DJ_Mer_dushkin: sounds like my marriage10:28
dushkinWell, it's probably close10:28
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dushkinI need the Xorg SDK10:29
dushkinBut I have no idea which package it's in.10:29
DJ_Mer_me either.10:29
dushkinAny ideas about where I should start my search?10:29
DJ_Mer_google10:29
dushkinTried that, it's mainly crap. Doesn't apt-get have a good search engine?10:30
DJ_Mer_yes sir.. Apt-cache search10:30
dushkinIt's quite a puzzle.10:32
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Insomniac-doesn't seem to be a package10:36
Insomniac-see if debian has one and borrow that one10:36
Insomniac-or see if the xorg site has .deb's for the sdk10:37
Insomniac-my imapd broke at a bad time :/10:37
Insomniac-that's what i get for using alpha software10:38
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dushkinInsomniac-: Are you sure we don't have it? Seems quite stupid to me10:39
Insomniac-no i'm just sure i can't find it10:39
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dushkinMaybe under another name.10:41
DJ_Mer_amarok keeps crashing when i load mp3 files10:42
DJ_Mer_or certain ones10:42
dushkin"Unable to compile wacdump without ncurses environment"10:42
dushkin*yawn* But I'm quite sure I have the ncurses environment..10:42
Insomniac-configure --use-ncurses= ?10:43
dushkinInsomniac-: It refuses to believe me10:44
Insomniac-when brute force doesn't solve your problem you're not using enough10:45
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dushkinKubuntu is driving me crazy.10:45
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dushkinHow does one find which package a specific file belongs to?10:53
kkathmandushkin:  like what?10:54
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burepe1how can i tell if my comp is 386, 586 or 686?10:55
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izakiburepe1: Do you know wich processor does it have?10:56
izakiburepe1: Brand or anything?10:56
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kkathmanburepe1: do you know what processor it has?10:59
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burepe1it is  old japanese sony viao pcv-j11v511:00
izakiHow old?11:00
izaki4/5 years?11:00
izaki68611:00
burepe1no idea11:01
burepe1it had win98 on it11:01
burepe1it is 686?11:01
izakiMmmm...11:02
izakiWhy do you need to know?11:02
izakiProbably it is...11:02
burepe1install mplayer. there are 3 versions11:02
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: !!!!!!11:02
izaki386 will work with anything... But if you want some extra performance, try 686...11:03
izakiIf it doesn't work, 586 ;)11:03
izakiIt won't hurt.11:03
burepe1cool'11:03
burepe1thanks11:03
Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd?11:03
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T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: i think the cast just croaked lol11:04
Insomniac-what cast?11:05
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burepe1Can someone walk me through setting up a static ip? I have done it before but last time i did it I messed up my system, so I just want to do it tandem this time11:05
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hugelmopfdushkin: are you still there? you will need development packages of specific packages that you want to compile against (e.g. libncurses5-dev)11:37
dushkinhugelmopf: I know that, the ncurses problem was a piece of cake.11:37
dushkinhugelmopf: The X.org SDK is what's bothering me now.11:37
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hugelmopfdushkin: i am not exactly sure what the "x.org sdk" is11:39
dushkinMy guess: headers + possibly other dev stuff.11:39
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dushkinhugelmopf: I've been looking around and seems like nobody really has it.11:39
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monadhi... tried to install breezy on a machien with scsi disk and an old board, got kernel panics all over, was told to try hoary, now it won'T boot off the cd and when i force it, it says: unable to mount root via nfs11:59
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Hazelwhat is the password for root in kubuntu live-cd??12:00
monadHazel: there is none12:01
Hazelbut it ask me for a password12:01
monadHazel: try sudo passwd root12:01
monadand set one12:01
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Hazelyes, it works...12:02
monadok12:02
burepe1What are the minimun specs to watch a dvd?12:03
monadso... can anyone tell me why this machine tries to boot via nfs when there'S a cd in the drive?12:03
monadburepel: what specs, graphics?12:03
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burepe1I got an old vaio and the guys at the store said it would be fine to watch a dvd if i had the max memory. the comp is really old. I got it for 50 bucks it is a vaio PVC-J11v5 with celeron 600MHz and 256 sdram12:06
burepe1but I am watching a dvd and it is so choppy12:07
hugelmopfburepe1: you have to turn on dma for the dvd drive12:07
burepe1what is dma?12:07
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hugelmopfburepe1: i am looking for the correct wiki page right now12:08
burepe1I found it12:09
burepe1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA12:09
burepe1thanks12:09
hugelmopfyes, that is what you need.12:10
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_jonasAnyone familiar with Ktorrent?12:11
hugelmopf_jonas: yes.12:12
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_jonashugelmopf: What do I do when the tracker is inactivated, and cant download?12:12
hugelmopf_jonas: as far as i know, there is nothing you can do about that. wait til the tracker is back up?12:14
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salvahi everybody!12:16
_jonashugelmopf: I've had problems with all the files ever since I formatted the HD two weeks ago. Could this be normal?12:16
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hugelmopf_jonas: sounds strange indeed. try for example the knoppix one, it is a good test case.12:17
_jonashugelmopf: Will do, thanks!12:18
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T3hWiz0rdis Insomniac- alive?12:19
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monadhi... can someone help me with the manual partitioning on the breezy cd? i'm used to fdisk and don't know how to do this12:20
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Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd: barely12:20
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: getting tired?12:20
Insomniac-yah12:20
T3hWiz0rdi just got oreos w00t12:20
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Insomniac-just transferred the money for my new system12:21
monadhello... please... partitioning help someone?12:21
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T3hWiz0rdand might add.... these oreos are a-frickin-mazing12:22
Insomniac-monad: just create the partitions you need?12:22
monadInsomniac-: i don't know how to use this awful interface, i normally use fdisk, make a small boot partition, some swap and / for the rest12:23
Insomniac-monad: i didn't either but i figured it out in a few minutes12:23
monadInsomniac-: you seem to be a very smart person12:24
Insomniac-i'd prefer the install cd had several tty's12:24
Insomniac-so oh well12:24
monadso... should i "configure the LVM"?12:24
Insomniac-not unless you want to use lvm12:24
hugelmopfmonad: not for a normal setup12:25
monadi don'T12:25
Insomniac-s/so/but/12:25
monadbut when i choose to manually insert a partitioning scheme, it just jumps back to the menu12:25
hugelmopfthere should a point like "manual configuration of partitions", where you can create/delete/... partitions and specify which filesystem you want on them and where you want to mount them12:26
hugelmopfmonad: that's strange12:26
monadhugelmopf: yes, but as i wrote, nothing happens when i choose this12:26
Insomniac-monad: sounds like your cd is broken, did you check the md5sum?12:26
monadInsomniac-: i don't think so... worked fine on another machine12:27
DJ_Mer_dunnanananana!12:27
DJ_Mer_soomoene switched names again12:27
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hugelmopfmonad: is it possible that the bottom line is missing and you are accidently hitting cancel or something like this?12:27
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: "i wanna be on you" - what movie is this from?12:27
Insomniac-DJ_Mer_: doesn't ring a bell12:28
DJ_Mer_:-O!12:28
DJ_Mer_anchorman12:28
monadhugelmopf: don't think so... wait a sec, i'll try a hoary cd12:28
Insomniac-hugelmopf: error between the keyboard and the chair? ;)12:28
monadharhar12:29
DJ_Mer_:-)12:29
monadstrange.... won't recognize the hoary cd12:30
Insomniac-maybe the cdrom drive is broken12:30
DJ_Mer_lmao12:31
DJ_Mer_mybe he plugged the floppy IDE cable into it12:31
monadInsomniac-: i hope not, i just exchanged the disk because it produced nothing but I/O errors12:31
DJ_Mer_ohh man, that was the most embarrassing screw up i ever did.12:31
Insomniac-lol12:31
monadInsomniac-: but then it wouldn't read the breezy cd, which it does12:31
DJ_Mer_i finally took a realllll good look and was like "whoa! how the hell did i do that"12:31
Insomniac-monad: i've experienced problems like this with flaky ide cables/broken cdrom drives12:31
DJ_Mer_and by plugging in the floppy IDE12:32
hugelmopfmonad: these problems are not very easy to solve on IRC, because it takes a bit of trial and error12:32
monadInsomniac-: this is a brand new machine12:33
Insomniac-monad: that doesn't mean anything12:33
monadi just built in a new harddrive ten minutes ago, the cables seem ok12:33
Insomniac-if anything it means it's not tested yet12:33
hugelmopfInsomniac-: if parts of the installer work, the CD seems to be alright?12:34
DJ_Mer_hugelmopf: not awlays... could be corrupted or missing data12:34
Insomniac-hugelmopf: not always12:34
Insomniac-and if the cd is alright, it could be a hardware issue12:34
DJ_Mer_and if its neither, its you12:34
monadit really seems the disk is not recognized. i don'T get any error msgs though12:35
Insomniac-first thing i do with new machines is test everything12:35
monadjust when i choose to manually partition, there is no disk to choose12:35
DJ_Mer_WAEFKI12:35
DJ_Mer_thats the best solution12:35
monadInsomniac-: and how do you test?12:35
DJ_Mer_WAEFKI12:35
hugelmopfhave fun trying12:35
Insomniac-monad: run cpu/ram/disk i/o test12:35
Insomniac-s12:35
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monadwhere from :-P12:36
DJ_Mer_monad: WAEFKI12:36
monadDJ_Mer_: what's that12:36
Insomniac-monad: memtest86 and the like12:36
DJ_Mer_monad: WHEN ALL ELSE FALES KICK IT12:36
DJ_Mer_fails*12:36
monadDJ_Mer_: oh... already did that12:36
Insomniac-monad: google for "ultimate boot cd"12:36
monador return to gentoo12:36
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Insomniac-it has alot of testing/configging tools12:36
DJ_Mer_and while you are googling that... get "richard simmons roast beef" i need the recepie12:37
Insomniac-monad: if you're convinced the cds are fine (check the md5sums) it could very well be a hardware issue12:38
Insomniac-that or the error between the keyboard and the chair mentioned above12:38
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monad...12:39
monadthe cd is should be ok, as i said, i installed on another machine12:40
monadthe hd was broken, i just built in a new one12:40
monadand for between chair an monitor... you could be right12:40
monadbut i don'T have testing tools for that12:40
DJ_Mer_i am really getting tired12:41
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monadok... magic magic... the disk is there... not how to create boot, swap and /?12:50
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monadboot and root work fine, but where can i choose to have some 600MB of swap?12:52
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monadwtf... everything worked fine, now i got and I/O error and a msg that creating the swap partition failed12:54
Insomniac-hardware test you must12:55
monadhardware kick i must12:56
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monadwhat are the odds of two hds failing in a row12:57
Insomniac-it could be something else12:57
monadso is there anything i can do at the moment?12:58
monaddoes the BIOS have any useful info?12:58
Insomniac-i'm not going to repeat myself again ;)12:58
monadyes father12:58
monadsorry father12:58
ilba7rmonad what is your problem12:59
monadpartitioning the disk fails, I/O error, cannot write the swap partition12:59
ilba7rso you are still in the installation or do you have a working sys01:00
monadinstallation01:02
monadcould it be the guys at the store jumpered the devices wrong?01:03
ilba7rmonad do you see both harddisks in the bios?01:03
ilba7rit might not be the installer at all as you pointed01:04
monadbios says: primary ide master not detected, primary slave hard disk, secondary master atapi cd rom01:04
ilba7rif you are familiar with hardware than you should check the connections01:04
ilba7rsometimes a loose cable but most of the time as you said a roung jumper01:05
monadilba7r: the connections are ok, i just plugged a new disk today. but the primary master not detected thing confuses me. shouldn't that be the disk?01:05
ilba7ri had a problem like that when you have a master and slave01:06
monadinstead of being primary slave01:06
ilba7rboth were not detected due to jumper prob01:06
monadilba7r: it says "primary slave hard disk"01:07
LeeJunFanmonad: how many HD's do you have?01:07
monadonly one01:07
ilba7rmonad so what is it about the jumpers you were talking about01:08
LeeJunFanmonad: then your jumpers are wrong, it should be detected as your primary master, not your primary slave. Are you familiar with jumpers on a hd?01:08
ilba7rdid you plud a hard disk and unplugged it again01:08
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monadyes01:08
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ilba7rthan ya most probably the jumpers of the harddisk is set to be slave01:08
monadLeeJunFan: did it once, years ago, now it looks like :|::01:09
ilba7ryou need to take the harddisk and look at the proper jumper connection. Normally illustrated with diagrams on the harddisk01:09
monadilba7r: already looked, no pictures :-)01:09
Insomniac-still it should make no difference if it's the only device on the cable01:10
ilba7rdid you take the harddisk completely out01:10
LeeJunFanmonad: right, on top of your HD should be illustrations of how to set the jumpers, unfortunately you need to take it all the way out to see them, unless you know exactly what model/brand you have you can probably get that info online.01:10
monadof course, i just put it on two hours ago, fresh from the plastic01:10
ilba7rnot if he specified it as slave. The default will work or specify as master01:10
LeeJunFanchances are you should either have the jumper closest to the power supply or take it off to set master.01:10
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monadech, i hate trying to get those plastic thingies out...01:14
arafathow can i check with dpkg which dependencies a .deb file has? found nothing usefull in the man pages...01:14
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LeeJunFanarafat: use apt-cache show [package] 01:16
LeeJunFanarafat: of course that will only show the first layer of deps, for each package listed in the deps for the package you check may have deps of it's own.01:17
arafatLeeJunFan: the package i want to check is not in the kubuntu repositories!01:17
arafatit's skype:-)01:17
arafatany idea?01:18
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LeeJunFanarafat: sorry, dunno.01:18
ilba7rlooking at dpkg manual now there is a depend option01:18
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arafatilba7r: really? how is this option called?01:21
ULI666hi all01:21
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arafatah! ok, found it myself...:-)01:22
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ilba7rit will just give you warning about dependencies01:23
ilba7ri guess a dirty way to do it is dpkg -i dpended -fakeroot01:23
ilba7rwill simulate installtion at least you do not give it root privlages do not know if it will work though01:24
ilba7rarafat i think skype is in the repos01:25
ilba7rwhy you need to install from binary?01:25
ilba7ryes it si in the repositories01:26
arafatreally? in which one?01:26
ilba7r!repositories01:27
uboturepositories is, like, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list01:27
ilba7rjust add the extra ones01:27
ilba7ri will check though in which one it is01:27
arafatwell... i have them added...01:27
ilba7rah sorry i have it from another repso01:28
mweI don't believe skype is in the official repos01:28
arafatcan you tell me whioch one it is?01:28
mwe!skype01:29
ubotuskype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:29
ilba7ri did not install it arafat so do not know if it might bread some dependencies01:29
arafati'll try it out and tell you:.-) thanks!01:29
ilba7rqnext is better01:29
ilba7rthats the one i use and do not need installation arafat01:29
ilba7rits java application01:29
arafatbut it is not compatible with skype, isnt it?01:30
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ilba7raha your friends use skype than ok no it is not compatable01:30
arafatright:-)01:30
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nachohy01:42
nachoi have a problem trying to install any package01:42
nachoit says i have dependences corrupt o wrong01:42
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ilba7rnacho are you installing from the official repositories01:43
nacholibvarconf-1.0c2  says error01:43
nachowant to see me source.list?i will paste it01:43
ilba7rno need i just asked if you are installing from official or not01:44
ilba7rbut if you want to paste use the pastebin do not paste here01:44
nachook01:45
nachohttp://pastebin.com/465146 here it is01:45
ilba7rok seem ok though i did not see the multiverse01:47
ilba7rdo you use synaptic or apt-get01:47
ilba7ror kynaptic01:47
nachosynaptic01:48
nachoi used it yesterday01:48
ilba7rok try reload first01:48
ilba7rthan retry mark all upgrades01:49
ilba7rand install again01:49
ilba7rmaybe a server was down and you did not have a complete download01:49
nachowhen i am entering synaptics01:49
nachoit says i have a package broken01:50
nacho1 package01:50
ilba7rok select edit01:50
ilba7rthan fix broken package01:50
nachoit is libvarconf-1.0c201:50
ilba7rfrom the menu select edit>fix broken packages01:51
ilba7rthis will fix it for you01:51
nachoi have an error trying to fix it01:51
nachoE: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvarconf-1.0c2_0.6.2-2ubuntu3_i386.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/usr/lib/libvarconf-1.0.so.2.0.0'01:51
nachoit says it can t overwrite01:52
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claushow do i load a saved profile in konqueror?01:52
clausthere's only a save option01:53
ilba7rdo you have any forced versions nacho01:53
nachohow i can know it?01:54
ilba7rdid you install anypackage that is not in the official repos01:54
nachoi dont know01:54
ilba7rif you installed it by downloading it as .deb file and used dpkg -i01:54
ilba7r!repositories01:54
ubotuI heard repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list01:54
ilba7rnacho i know that you do not have the multiverse in your repos follow this link to add it than use reload from synaptic01:55
clauswhat do i need to install to play mp3 files?01:55
ilba7rand try the fix procedure again01:55
ilba7r!mp301:55
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:55
clausthanks!01:55
ilba7rur welcomed :)01:56
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hugelmopfnacho: you can do a "dpkg -S /usr/lib/libvarconf-1.0.so.2.0.0" to find out, which package owns that file, which it wants to overwrite.02:15
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fabsofthi02:16
fabsoftanyone using kde 3.5 ?02:16
hugelmopffabsoft: yes.02:16
fabsoftkpdf always crashes02:16
hugelmopffabsoft: it is a known bug in the latest update to kubuntus kde 3.5 packages02:17
fabsoftah, i hope their fix it almoast possible02:17
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fabsofthehe02:18
hugelmopfthere have been lots of people asking this question ;-)02:18
fabsofti ave kde from kubuntu rep of kde only02:18
fabsoftin breezy too02:18
hugelmopfoh... i just see that there is an update to kpdf, let's see if that fixes it.02:19
fabsoftok, i trying just now02:19
hugelmopfyes, it is fixed!02:20
fabsoftall kdegraphics seem to be upgradeable02:21
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fabsoftPreconfiguring packages ...02:21
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hugelmopfyes, same here.02:21
fabsoftyeah, now it works fine02:23
fabsoftmanteiners faster that feebacks eheh02:24
fabsoftthan02:24
claushow do i load a saved profile in konqueror?02:25
clausthere's only a save option for profiles02:25
hugelmopffabsoft: seems like the fix is very new: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2093002:26
hugelmopfclaus: in the settings menu you don't have something like "load profiles ->"?02:27
hugelmopf-s02:27
claushugelmopf: no, thats why i'm asking02:27
fabsoft--profile <profile>       Profile to open02:28
fabsoftkonqueror --profile02:28
hugelmopfwell, but that is a bit awkward. claus: is this kde-3.5 or 3.4?02:28
claushugelmopf: i dont really know. its the version that came with the official kubuntu 5.10 installation cd02:29
BlueEaglehugelmopf: Not really. You can create different launchers depending on wich profile you want to use.02:30
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hugelmopfok, then it is 3.4. i believe that under kubuntu with kde-3.4 i also did not have that option, but i have no idea, why they removed it. in 3.5 it is there.02:30
clausso i need to upgrade it02:32
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clausbut i dont know how :)02:33
clausi'm a complete (k)ubuntu newbie02:34
hugelmopfclaus: as complete newbie you might want to stay with the officially released packages and find out how to load profiles ;-)02:34
hugelmopfclaus: otherwise you have to add this line: "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to /etc/apt/sources.list and update.02:35
claushmmm, then i rather stay with the official released packages :)02:36
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fabsoftin kde 3.5 kate also changed, now always open multiple istances02:39
ilba7rhugelmopf why isn't kde35 in the regular repos?02:39
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ilba7ris it because between releases ubuntu freezes its packages and only update security issues?02:40
PhillemannA friend of mine wants to install kubuntu but he has a rather annoying raid controller. Can kubuntu handle raid controllers during install?02:40
fabsoftobviusly02:42
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clausPhillemann: just give it a try and you'll see if it works or not :)02:43
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Klouseis there a tool that checks a pop3 server every 5 minutes if there a new mails available?02:55
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thoreauputicfetchmail -c02:57
thoreauputicyou can use it withthe gkrellm monitor app for instance (I do that)02:58
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Klousei usually fetch my emails with thunderbird.. is it difficult to set-up fetchmail?02:59
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RiddellKlouse: kmail03:01
KlouseRiddell: err, actually i dont want to change my mail client03:02
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thoreauputicKlouse: fetchmail is installed by default afaik - but it's CLI of course: as Riddell says, you can usually configure your mail client to check for you at intervals03:03
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Klousethoreauputic: thats true. but thunderbird has no option for close it into the systray.. so i have to let it open all the time :(03:04
thoreauputichmmm - sorry I don't know thunderbird - I use Sylpheed mostly03:06
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thoreauputicKlouse: there are certainly little utilities that pop up mail notifications - the really old one is called "biff" ;)03:07
thoreauputicKlouse: apt-cache search mail | grep  notification03:08
thoreauputickbiff - KDE mail notification utility03:09
Klouselet me test it :)03:10
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thoreauputicapt-cache show kbiff  <-- it docks in the panel apparently03:10
thoreauputicobviously I haven't tried it ;-)03:10
Klouseyes, i think thats what i'm looking for :)03:12
Klousethanks03:12
thoreauputic:)03:12
thoreauputicapt-cache search is your friend!03:13
Klouseahh it needs an email client to check for new mails03:15
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saifhola03:45
saifalguien me envia un privado porfa03:45
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BlueGhosthello03:48
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BlueGhostAnyone know how I can tell kubuntu what type of monitor I have.  Currently I can only get 60hz, and that strains my eyes.03:50
BlueGhostI know I need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I don't know what to put there.03:51
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hussamHi, I need help with printing. Using CUPS, I can print from firefox and other programs but not from any kde program.03:51
hussamwhen I try to print from a kde program, I get this error: "Error while reading filter description for true. Empty command line received"03:52
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BlueGhostHussam: Somehow I don't think there are many people here other than newbies like us03:52
thoreauputicBlueDevil: a better way is to run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:52
hussamstill printing from non kde programs works03:52
hussamBlueGhost: oh03:52
BlueGhostI may be wrong.03:53
thoreauputicBlueDevil: you can choose your vert and horiz refresh rates etc  - do you have the monitor manual?03:53
BlueGhostI think you may be talking to me...I have the monitor problem.03:54
thoreauputicBlueDevil: erm - yes that's why your name appears on eacch line :)03:55
thoreauputicBlueDevil:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:56
thoreauputichah sorry03:56
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thoreauputicBlueGhost: bad tab completion :/03:56
BlueGhostI of course don't have the manual, but I know it can do better than 60hz.  I am looking on Samsung's site now but they don't have much.  I'll google it.03:57
thoreauputicBlueGhost: the command I gave you should give you options for reconfiguring it03:57
BlueGhostthanks.  I'll give it a try.  First let me see if I can find out which frequencies this thing supports.03:58
BlueGhostI love google!  Drag, best it can do at 1600x1200 is 68.  Guess I am stuck with 1200x1024.  Good thing I have 4 desktops :)04:00
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BlueGhostGot bounced.  thoreauputic, when I run the command, I get 'xserver.xorg is not installed and no info is available.04:06
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thoreauputicBlueDevil: are you running breezy? ( 5.10)04:07
BlueGhostYes.  Ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop package.04:07
thoreauputicBlueDevil: ah a typo I think :  xserver-xorg ,, not xserver.xorg04:08
thoreauputicdash not dot :)04:08
BlueGhostoops. Duh.04:08
thoreauputiccomputers are pedantic ;)04:08
BlueGhostthat's better.04:08
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BlueGhostdamn, math.  128MB in K...hmm calculator time.04:09
thoreauputic! 128 * 102404:10
ubotu13107204:10
BlueGhosti get 154112...04:11
BlueGhostmy bad.04:11
BlueGhosttoo late now.  Guess I get to to the command over.04:11
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BlueGhostok, done.  Can I restart X without having to reboot, or better just to reboot?04:19
thoreauputicrestart X04:19
BlueGhosthow?04:19
thoreauputicno need to reboot04:19
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thoreauputicctrl-alt-backspace04:20
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thoreauputicBlueGhost: any better ?04:25
BlueGhostthereauputic, thanks.  this is much better.  (Didn't know restarting X would kill all my programs.  Should have thought so though)  At least I am learning.04:26
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thoreauputicBlueDevil: heh - I should have warned you but you were too quick :)04:26
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BlueGhostNow all I need is a good program for leeching from the usenet (don't say pan) and I can dump Windows.04:26
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_ganymedhallo04:27
shmoolikhelllo04:27
_ganymedi have a problem with impress in kubuntu 5.10. it's damn slow...04:27
shmoolikhow can i add my mount hdd to Storage Media ?04:28
_ganymedi wanna watch a ppt, which is quiet demanding...04:28
_ganymedquite04:28
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BlueGhostThanks.  I now have to figure out if I can handle 1600x1200 at 65hz or stick with 1280x1024 at 75.  I think I will choose the latter (for now).  The text is small enough as it is.04:29
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DeepBlueGhostAh ha, a nick not already owned!04:31
thoreauputicDeepBlueGhost: register your nick then04:32
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thoreauputic  /msg nickserv register04:32
DeepBlueGhostthanks.  was about to ask04:32
thoreauputicyou need a password too04:33
thoreauputic /msg nickserv register <your password>04:33
DeepBlueGhostregistered.04:34
thoreauputic:)04:34
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DeepBlueGhostI think I need to read a bit more about IRC and of course about Unix... Been using linux now for a whole week.  Had distroitis until I found kubuntu.04:35
thoreauputica whole week ? You only have like 10 years of learning ahead of you then ;-)04:36
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DeepBlueGhostwell, it keeps my mind healthy.  At keast it gives me something to do, and more importantly, get away from a monopoly.04:38
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shmoolikhello04:38
shmooliksomeone here?04:38
thoreauputicDeepBlueGhost: of course - actually it seems the more I learn the more I realise how much I don't know about *nix04:39
thoreauputicshmoolik: no, you're all alone :)04:39
shmoolik:)04:39
DeepBlueGhostI feel the same with Dutch.  I'm an American stuck in Holland.04:40
thoreauputicDeepBlueGhost: ah - I hear Dutch is a tricky language :)04:40
shmoolikdoes any one here knows how can i add my mount HDD to media storage ?04:40
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thoreauputicshmoolik: I don't quite follow the question04:41
DeepBlueGhostSometimes.  It's not too bad.  Hey, I can answer that one.  shmook edit fstab.04:41
thoreauputicshmoolik: do you mean how to mount a hard drive?04:41
samu2isn't KDE's start menu supposed to have some function where it lists the most used programs?04:41
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DeepBlueGhosthdd is USUALLY a CDROM, but can be a hard drive.. (1,1)04:42
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thoreauputicDeepBlueGhost: yes, but HDD is also an abbreviation for hard disk drive...04:42
thoreauputichence confusion..04:43
shmoolikthoreauputic: no i have mounted them04:43
shmoolikthoreauputic:  i have add them to mnt folder :)04:43
thoreauputicshmoolik: so what are you trying to achieve exactly?04:43
shmoolikbut now i want to add them to system:/media path04:43
shmoolik<system:/media>04:44
DeepBlueGhostdouble mount?04:44
thoreauputicshmoolik: I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry04:44
DeepBlueGhostI think he wants another mount point for the drive.04:44
shmoolikopen konqer and put in adders <system:/media>04:44
shmoolikKonqueror*04:45
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shmoolikwait  i will send a SS04:46
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DeepBlueGhostis taking a coffee break04:47
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shmoolikhttp://img492.imageshack.us/img492/8271/snapshot25te.jpg04:47
shmoolikhere i want to see my mount points here :)04:48
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_ganymedcu later04:52
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DeepBlueGhostsmoolik: cool desktop.  Where are you?  17:46?04:54
shmoolikthank04:55
shmoolikBUT i still don't find how to add my mout poits to MEDIA STPRAGE FOLDER :S04:55
DeepBlueGhostdo you want it to automount?04:56
shmoolikwhat do umean by automount ?04:56
DeepBlueGhostI mean that it's there when you boot up (all the time)04:57
shmoolikmy hdd r automounted on bootup ....04:57
DeepBlueGhostSo what's the problem?04:57
DeepBlueGhostSorry, 5:00, gotta go...04:58
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shmooliki want to c them on Media Storage04:58
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monadhi... how can i switch off kdm permanently? is there something like rc-update?05:05
Riddellmonad: sudo apt-get remove kdm05:05
monadriddell: really? i remember sth different05:06
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bipolarnow that I've installed kubuntu-desktop, is there an easy way to remove all teh gnome stuff?05:10
Riddellbipolar: sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-005:11
bipolarRiddell: ahh... I didn't think of that. Thanks!05:11
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JabberWokkyI just got a new laptop - is there a way to dump the list of packages installed on my old system such that I can apt-get install `cat list` them?05:20
Riddelldpkg --get-selections05:21
Riddelland --set-selections05:21
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JabberWokkyWhy, oh, why do I always forget about dpkg?  Thanks.05:22
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thoreauputicmonad: IRC ing as root isn't very clever, you know05:23
monadhi... something strange with adept, even when i login as root and start it, it tells me i haveto be root and it runs in read only mode05:23
monadthoreau: i know, don't ask, my professor'S machine, he works exclusively as root05:23
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thoreauputicmonad: then your professor isn't very clever either ;)05:24
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monadwell...05:24
thoreauputicnever mind05:24
monadthanks anyway05:25
monadso, why do i get this strange message from adept... i tried an update now, and it works, even though it told me it won't05:25
thoreauputictry kdesu adept05:26
thoreauputicbut if you are already root, seems a bit pointless...05:26
djibis there a program to open and modify sqlite databases ?05:27
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monadmy prof has a lot of c programs which depend on huge shellscripts that reference gcc - how do i symlink that to point to gcc-4.0?05:29
Chousukehm05:30
harahttp://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/Jingle_Bells_Reversed.swf05:30
ChousukeI think you can use update-alternatives05:30
harathat's a good site to test flashplayer05:30
sambagirli set my desktop display resolution to 800x600 everyday. why i cannot just set 1 time and make this my new default?05:30
Chousukehara: :|||05:31
haralol05:31
Chousukebastard.05:31
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haramy 2year old daughter freaked out after seeing that05:31
sambagirlflash does not work for kubuntu, true?05:31
harait does, very well05:32
Chousukenot veey well ;P05:32
Chousukevery*05:32
sambagirlno for me05:32
harascaringly well atleast05:32
Chousukethe flash player is a piece of crap05:32
sambagirlblah05:32
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haraeh, i meant the flash plugin for mozilla05:34
sambagirlwhere can i get a flash player for kubuntu?05:34
sambagirlthe one i have not working.05:34
sambagirlmozilla? not firefox?05:34
harafirefox05:35
haramozilla firefox05:35
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hara1.0.7 version05:36
_ganymedhallo05:36
sambagirlso what is so spooky about this? http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/Jingle_Bells_Reversed.swf05:36
haralo05:36
sambagirli dont understand?05:36
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haralisten to the words when it's played in reverse05:36
sambagirllol05:36
sambagirllol05:36
harayou got it?05:36
sambagirlhow i can do that?05:37
_ganymeddoes anybody know which webhoster is "good"... i am surching for webspace and i have sth. - but it seems to be too good to be true05:37
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harasambagirl: do what?05:37
sambagirlnevermind i see now05:38
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harammkay05:38
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sambagirlmozilla crashed05:39
sambagirlmy stars05:39
darkheartThat was scary.05:40
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darkheartI didn't hear the message, but I'm too scared to listen to it again.05:40
ideafixin tha hooods05:40
ideafixlets shooot some hoops m8s ?05:40
haradarkheart: put speakers on loud and play it again05:41
sambagirltv is fake.05:41
sambagirli watching the district, it is a big lie. i lived in DC.05:41
ideafixany one has access to shipits DB ?05:41
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darkhearthara: Hehe, I can't, I'm at work.05:41
ideafixroflol05:41
ideafixi cant gota iron my tux05:42
ideafixhi there asiego05:43
ideafixi see ego ?05:43
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ideafix_xiglet: is a roedent05:44
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xiglethsay what ideafix ?05:45
ideafixxigleth: say chees05:45
thoreauputicideafix: you are going the same way you went in #ubuntu - watch it05:45
ideafixim shaling05:45
ideafixshaking05:45
ideafixomg noo nooo not the B word05:46
thoreauputicstop trolling or you're out of here05:46
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darkheartI guess I was just never bored enough to run around IRC channels and try to get banned from them.05:46
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ideafixdefine trooling05:46
ideafixthats why your heart is in the dark05:47
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ideafixany one in here into psytrance ?05:47
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ideafixok gents nothing too see here move along05:50
ideafixthoreauputic: do you use thor ?05:50
harawhat is this dapper flight?05:51
monadwhere do i find the serverlist again?05:51
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darkheartmonad: Sources?05:51
ideafixhave you seen that dude in slashdot saying that pricacy is a luxurie ?05:52
monaddarkheart: the file that says where apt-get looks05:52
darkheartSlashdot sucks.05:52
ideafixwhy ?05:52
darkheart!tell monad about sources05:52
knubbeis there a gui for creating symlinks?05:52
ideafixwhy ? dose slashdot sucks ?05:52
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darkheartCause they are a bunch of idiots that just post crap and start flame wars..gets old. But that is neither here nor there.05:53
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monaddarkheart: so? not my machine and my first kubuntu install... someone told me there'S a config file somewhere, where it says which are restricted etc...05:53
darkheartmonad: Did you get the message ubotu sent you? The file is in /etc/apt/05:53
ideafixdarkheart yes we dont want to bring up that kind of stuff05:54
ideafixits best to keep folks in the dark05:54
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ideafixwhat you cant see cant warm you :-905:54
ideafixim feeeling so much cool just being in here hehe05:55
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ideafixdo you think that this latelly explosions at refineries are torror atacks05:56
darkheartNo, I think it's Portuguese people trying to scam money.05:57
thoreauputicideafix: if you can't be on topic, please leave05:57
ideafixare you portugues ?05:57
ideafixdarkheart: you gota love this new privacy laws dont yha ?05:59
ideafixso you can profile every body and put them in your little boxes06:00
ideafixyour very owne terror network06:01
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ideafixit must be as funn as playing nmorph06:01
ideafixshape up their minds06:01
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Zv_oDDOk i'm a new user; why does kubuntu not set up the root password during intall, and how am i ment configure my computer now?06:14
thoreauputic!root06:15
uboturoot is probably rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:15
Zv_oDDSo in the the programs which ask for root password, i should just not enter anything?06:15
thoreauputicenter your user password06:16
Zv_oDDooo06:16
thoreauputicthe first user has sudo rights06:16
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Zv_oDDok06:17
bipolarZv_oDD: read up on that wiki page. it will explain it06:17
thoreauputicit's the  same setup as mac OS-X basically06:17
Zv_oDDhmm06:17
Zv_oDDsoo i click on the login manager and i entered my user password, and it didn't work06:18
Zv_oDDwhy is this06:18
bipolarZv_oDD: did you read the wiki page?06:18
Zv_oDDsigh06:18
Zv_oDDno but i did google my question06:19
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bipolarZv_oDD: the wiki page tells you all about it.06:19
thoreauputichttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:19
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Zv_oDDi think they should have the information on the desktop by defualt, for new users06:20
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bipolarZv_oDD: what asks for root password?06:22
bipolarZv_oDD: nothing should be asking for root password, it should be asking for *your* password06:22
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sebastianWell I tryed in #Apache and #ubuntu.  now i'll do this here to:06:25
sebastianWhen I run Apache and put in my external IP address  I get a blank page.   I think the reason for this is, because I get my IP address from DHCP.  and that I need to set up a static ip address  for Ubuntu,  ,but   I am not sure how to do that.   I was told also that my multi boot with XP can still use DHCP.  and all other computers on the network can use DHCP.  and Ubuntu can use the static06:25
bipolarsebastian: DHCP should not be a problem at all06:26
sebastianyes, but I need to change from DHCP to static06:26
sebastianand I am not sure how to do that06:26
sebastianor I need to some how get  my external IP address.  to work with DHCP and Apache.  and I did the routher eariler06:26
thoreauputicsebastian: you don't need to - you can use dyndns.org to point at your IP06:26
sebastianrouter06:26
bipolarsebastian: you are on an internal network, right?06:27
thoreauputicsebastian: are you sure your ISP doesn't block port 8006:27
bipolarsebastian: at home or at work?06:27
sebastianat home06:27
sebastianI don't think my ISP blocks port 8006:27
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bipolarsebastian: you want to run a public  website from home?06:27
thoreauputicsebastian: is the server machine behind a router ?06:28
sebastianI want to be able to run stuff from my Apache server running on Ubuntu when I want to.  and give people my extenral ip address or whatever.  so they can connect to it06:28
sebastiansome times06:28
sebastianyes I am behind a router06:28
sebastianrouter06:28
thoreauputicsebastian: then you'll need to forward port 8006:28
sebastianyes06:28
thoreauputicto the server06:28
sebastianwell I did this thing in router config earlier06:28
sebastian,but it also says in the tutorial and what not for that router.  that I need to set a static ip address, but not sure how to do that06:29
sebastianwhere's the program for changing DHCP to Static or whatever06:29
sebastianand really this is the wrong channel for all this, but no help in Apache or Ubuntu.  and I am using Gnome at the moment.   haven't instaleld Kbuntu and other GUI's yet.  on to this new Ubuntu.  I got rid of and formatted my old one about a week ago06:30
darkheartsebastian: That's a setting on your router.06:30
darkheartsebastian: But you really shouldn't have to set a static IP to forward a port.06:30
sebastianwhat's a setting on my router?06:30
darkheartsebastian: DHCP or static IPs are something you set on your router.06:31
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sebastianwell I don't want to mess around with the other computers.06:32
sebastiansince my Dad set all that up and well06:32
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darkheartLike I said, though, you shouldn't have to set a static IP to forward ports.06:32
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darkheartBut you will have to tell your router that you want to forward port 80 to your computer's IP.06:32
haffeCould somebody tell me if kompmgr works adequately on a radeon 9200se 128 mb ram, xp2000+ 512 mb ram.06:32
sebastianI have done stuff with the router config06:38
sebastian,but nope no luck06:38
sebastianreally06:38
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liviohi at all06:41
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liviowhere i can find a graphical interfare for pppoe06:42
paguxkppoe ?06:45
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djibhey, I'm looking for an application that displays all running applications at the same time, just like on mac OSX06:59
djibI forgot the name06:59
djibany idea ?06:59
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ninHerhi all07:02
haradon't know about mac, but how about top?07:02
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ismailhi07:02
haraor ksysguard07:02
haralo07:02
ismaili wanna setup php5 to my kubuntu07:03
ismail:(07:03
ismaili download with adept07:03
ismailbut it doesnt work07:03
JabberWokkyI found a novel way to mess up your system -- I'm copying laptop a to laptop b, copied /etc/hosts, and now sudo won't work (can't see laptop b's hostname).  Whups.  init 1, or can anybody see another way of sudo'ing or changing /etc/hosts?07:04
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JabberWokky(Rebooting isn't a problem, I'm just curious if anybody has a nifty solution)07:04
djibhara : no I'm not talking about top, but more of a graphical interface that shows thubnails all running applications when I launch it07:05
Zv_oDDubuntu would be that much better with root, seriosly linux is ment to have a root user07:06
JabberWokkydjib: Control ESC?07:06
JabberWokkyKDE's Process Table?07:06
ismaili think rebooting is a problem for a server07:06
ismailis there anybody can help me about php07:07
ismailabout installing php07:07
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Zv_oDDi would like to know aswell07:07
JabberWokkyismail: Yes, that's actually what prompted the question.  Right now this is a desktop.  Next time it could be a server... although I'll likely create root on a server for this reason now.07:07
djibJabberWokky: control esc doen't work on my pc07:07
haradjib: it launches ksysguard which won't work if you don't have kde07:08
djiboh no sorry it did work07:08
djibit was just very slow07:08
djibok but there is no thumbnails07:08
harahold alt+tab07:08
djibthis program made all the applications kinda "zoom out" and so you could see them all07:09
djibhara: not this either07:09
djibit was not included in kde07:09
djibI had to install it07:09
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djibbut I don't remember the name07:09
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haradjib: http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/osxbar/main.php  ?07:10
djiboh this sounds good07:11
ismailctrl esc is working in mine07:11
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_ismail_please help me07:13
_ismail_if you dont help07:13
_ismail_i must open windows07:13
_ismail_:(07:13
_ismail_i dont want07:13
_ismail_but i need a working apache server07:13
sambagirlhow we can help you _ismail_07:14
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djibThere is skippy...07:19
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djibwhich is more like what I am looking for07:20
djibapparently the program is called 'expose' under mac OSX07:20
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ClayGhehe I found apache easier to set up on nix than windows, but I'm ssbackwards from most07:48
ClayGAoP looks like you got everything squared away07:49
AoPMm07:49
AoPSorta07:49
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ninHerhi all07:53
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theocan anyone tell me how to install flash?07:54
darkheart!tell theo about flash07:54
AoP!tell AoP about java07:55
AoPskill =o07:55
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hara!tell hara about java07:58
haranice07:58
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liviowhere i can find a graphical interface for pppoe08:00
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theodarkheart: thanx! ;)08:03
mornfallwhat the... http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/by_maint/me%40mornfall.net/large/libapt-front/08:10
mornfallerr, wrong chan :p08:10
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darkheartmornfall: Good, cause I checked the link and I was like 'what the...' too hehe.08:12
liviowhere i can find a graphical interface for pppoe08:13
darkheartlivio: I thought someone recommended kpppoe? I dunno though, don't use pppoe08:13
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_danielHi. I just tried to install Amarok SVN, and I get an error about '/lib/libacl.la'. I have asked on #amarok, and they said try here08:21
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kameshHi all08:32
kameshanyone out there08:32
kamesh?????08:33
darkheartSometimes08:33
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kameshI have a small problem..08:34
kameshI have updated my ubuntu to kubuntu and kde 3.508:34
kameshand my computer has become really slow08:34
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darkheartkamesh: Sorry, I haven't upgraded to 3.5 yet =\08:36
hussamWhen I try to print from a kde program, I get this error: "Error while reading filter description for true. Empty command line received". Is this a kde 3.4.3 bug?08:36
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kameshOh.. ok Thanks any way darkheart08:37
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mzelemanyone know where to go to determine the compatibility of hardware in kubuntu before you buy it?08:37
kameshI have another problem as well. I have debian as well as kubuntu installed in 2 seperate partitions. How can I access my debian partion in kubuntu and viceversa08:40
darkheartmzelem: I didn't think you had to buy Kubuntu.08:41
manveruhey, i've got a problem... someone sent me a virus but wine cannot execute it... :(08:42
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wheeltpotare there plans to add a panel item for updates soon ? ;-))08:43
darkheartkamesh: Sorry, I can't help w/ that either ; ; but I'm sure there are some guides on the net if you google for that.08:43
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naliothmzelem: help.ubuntu.com or www.kubuntu.org08:43
kameshI will check that out with google. and come back again if I have any problems.. Thanks once again darkheart,08:45
kamesh:-)08:45
darkheart=)08:46
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Chairman_Wowgrep: /lib/libacl.la: No such file or directory08:49
Chairman_Wow/bin/sed: can't read /lib/libacl.la: No such file or directory08:49
Chairman_Wowlibtool: link: `/lib/libacl.la' is not a valid libtool archive08:49
Chairman_WowError creating ./amarok/src/libamarok.la. Exit status 1.08:49
Chairman_WowRiddell: I got sent over from #amarok to ask you this. My latest compilation of amarok-svn failed.08:49
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RiddellChairman_Wow: install libacl1-dev?08:51
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djk_i'm trying to compile something and it requires Qt >=3, so what do i have to apt-get?08:52
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darkheartRiddell: In regards to the question just asked, what command would I use to search libapt for a package that contains <filename>?08:52
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T3hWiz0rddarkheart: apt-cache search08:53
naliothdjk_: libqt*-dev08:53
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T3hWiz0rdjust kidding iunno what im doing08:54
darkheartT3hWiz0rd: That only searches for words in the names and descriptions of packages. I'm talking about finding the name of a file that's contained in a package.08:54
T3hWiz0rdhmm08:54
naliothdarkheart: install apt-file08:54
T3hWiz0rdapt-cache search grep?08:54
darkheartnalioth: Cool, thanks.08:54
darkheartT3hWiz0rd: Hehe, that will still only give me what's inside the name and description fields ;)08:55
T3hWiz0rdlol i know... i usck at life08:55
naliothdarkheart: you'll need to "sudo apt-file update" first, and on occasion afterwards08:55
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darkheartnalioth: Okay, so apt-file doesn't use the same db as apt-get?08:56
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darkheartT3hWiz0rd: Hehe, lucky you cause it's not whether you suck or not, just whether you try or not.08:57
Xemanthis there ubuntu package for putty?08:57
naliothyes, it does, but it searches inside for "tcl.h" or sdl.o etc08:57
darkheartXemanth: putty is windows only..don't need it on linux.08:57
T3hWiz0rddarkheart: lol....08:57
T3hWiz0rddarkheart: that sounds like something you'd tell someone with a disability...08:57
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hussamcan somebody help me get printing to work in kde programs. It only works in non-kde programs08:57
Xemanthdarkheart: dude its not windows only08:57
T3hWiz0rddarkheart: "its not that you can't walk but that you dream to walk"08:57
darkheartnalioth: Okay.08:57
T3hWiz0rdhats off to putty for making a Pocket PC version08:58
darkheartT3hWiz0rd: Hehe, well, sometimes those disabled people teach us who are not disabled valuable lessons ;)08:58
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Xemanthdarkheart: i have had it on debian08:58
T3hWiz0rddarkheart: this is true... like the lady with no arms on rippleys !08:58
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darkheartXemanth: You are right08:59
jencohello08:59
Riddelldarkheart: you'd use packages.ubuntu.com or packages.debian.org08:59
Viilishi08:59
Xemanthdarkheart: :)08:59
darkheartXemanth: But you should also realize that a simple google: putty will find your answer.08:59
darkhearthttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html08:59
Riddelldarkheart: or if you have it installed use dpkg -S filename08:59
Chairman_WowRiddell: That's sorted it, also had to install libattr-dev.08:59
Viiliscan u tell me why i cant install nvidia geforce 7800 driver on my kubuntu?08:59
Viilisit just gets error u dont have ld08:59
Viiliswhat is that?08:59
djk_nalioth: thanks08:59
jencoi have a problem with my ati readeon 9250 pci card on my compaq : / my system won't start up with it installed kernel panics any ideas?09:00
darkheartRiddell: Thank you09:00
Viilisjenco ati is shit on linux..09:00
darkheartXemanth: Can I ask why you want putty? Just curious what it offers on a Linux box.09:00
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jenco:/ but it is with any of the video cards i have ~ nvidia or ati09:01
Xemanthdarkheart: at least i can compile it from source :) hmm i want it to linux because at least i know that its good and reliable client which i know... i know that i can do "ssh blabla.com" but it ain't familiar09:01
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XamDMXemanth: there is a ubuntu package for putty, i just installed it via apt09:03
darkheartXemanth: I see09:05
wheeltpotare there any plans to add the panel applet notifier at some point ?09:05
XemanthXamDM: did you add any repositories? because at least its not only "putty"09:05
XamDMXemanth: wait a second ore two ;-)09:06
XemanthXamDM: :)09:06
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XamDMXemanth: do you use Breezy ore hoary ??09:06
Xemanthbreezy09:07
XamDMXemanth: i only activated universe and multiverse09:08
Xemanthi have uncommented everything too09:08
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XamDMXemanth: did you do a apt-get update after that ??, i386 ore any other type of system ??09:08
Xemanthx6409:09
Xemanthof course i did apt update ;)09:10
XamDMXemanth: i hav i386, but i i used x64 either and i had putty to09:10
Xemanthhmm09:10
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sobersabrehi09:11
sobersabrei have got the 3.5 debs, and installed them. i have an oddity now.09:11
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sobersabrethe GL screensavers display their screens on the upper half of the display.09:11
XamDMdeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse09:11
XamDM deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse09:11
XamDMXemanth: do you have these two ??09:11
campuhola09:11
Xemanthhmm gonna try that after Sg09:12
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sobersabream i the only user of breezy+kde3.5 ?!?!?!09:18
naliothsobersabre: you are not09:18
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sobersabreso ... i am the only one with strange things with GL screensavers...09:18
XamDMsobersabre: sry, whats jour problem ??09:19
XamDMsobersabre: i don#t have those problems ;-)09:20
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sobersabresome of the screensavers are showing as if the display is 1/2 higher09:21
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sobersabrelike they are aiming 1/2 dispay upwards09:21
XamDMsobersabre: what kind of graka ?? nvidia ati ??09:22
sobersabregraka :)  intel 855GM09:22
sobersabrelaptop09:22
sobersabreLCD09:22
sobersabre64MB shared mem09:23
XamDMsobersabre: hm, and it worked in 3.4 ??09:23
sobersabreyep09:23
sobersabreit works here too, but ... misses the center... :)09:23
sobersabrei can only see the legs09:23
XamDMsobersabre: any other updates ??, ore only adet the kde3.5 repo ??09:25
zynsobersabre: i've reported that bug as well... doesn't seem to have been fixed yet, and it's still present in kde3.509:25
sobersabrezyn let's open a supporting therapy  group :)09:26
XamDMzyn: same graka as sobersabre ??09:26
sobersabreseriously, i've no idea how this happens.09:26
XamDMdo other 3d apps work correct ??09:27
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sobersabreXamDM even some GL savers work ok.09:27
sobersabreand the ones i like to use - don't :)09:27
zynXamDM: yes, they do... xscreensavers-gl work just fine in fullscreen mode09:27
zynlots of real GL apps work just fine as well09:27
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zynit's only the GL KDE screensavers :/09:27
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XamDMzyn: strange09:28
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sobersabreoh... nice now we have agreement :)09:28
zynhttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765409:28
zyn(other people have also confirmed the bug)09:28
sobersabreXamDM do you have any idea how the KDE savers are developed ?09:28
XamDMno, i   don't09:29
sobersabrei mean which libs are they linked to...09:29
sobersabreexcept the glx09:29
sobersabrelet's see..09:29
zynthe strange thing is that it's only the KDE GL screensavers on newer intel chips09:29
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JakubS_sobersabre: i have something similar - GL screensaver use only upper half of the screen09:31
JakubS_on i91509:31
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sobersabreJakubS_ yup09:33
sobersabreok09:34
sobersabregtg09:34
sobersabrebye all09:34
JakubS_well, this is exactly as said in this bugreport, too bad there are no suggestions/workarounds/pointers what to debug09:34
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starscallingeh sup09:52
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starscallingim running kubuntu-desktop [kde]  and using gdesklets on this xp atholon 2000+ with gig ram and only onboard vid card.. but its llllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggging ;p is there a way to make this thing more efficiant or another app like gdesklets for kde?09:53
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Tm_Tstarscalling: like superkaramba? or torsmo? or <add your favourite here>09:55
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naliothTm_T: torsmo is dead. long live conky09:56
vicksis superkaramba in dapper flight-2? (live cd)09:59
starscallingah10:00
=== starscalling sighs ok ill check it out then
starscallingi think i might reformat my system again...10:00
starscallingthough i must not be using adept right b/c it doesnt seem to me to have the same options // same kind of options as synaptic ;p10:01
starscallingis k3b working for dapper yet?10:01
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Anakasharis there a way to find the /dev/ port of a USB device?10:07
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JormundgandWhen I connect to a server using Konversation and join a channel I get the text from the previous connection already in the tab. How can I prevent this?10:09
seth_kJormundgand, you would have to disable Logging in Preferences10:11
JormundgandThat's slightly annoying, but not enormously so. Thanks.10:14
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starscallinglol i consider that one of the better options :D10:16
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permanewbkpackage doesn't accept my password,. I can use kdesu /usr/bin/kpackage, but it annoys me a microscopic amount that the window decorations are different when I run it from kdesu. Do you also find that kpackage doesn't accept your root password?10:21
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gaboo-muadibpermanewb: use synaptic or better if you're using breezy : adept10:25
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LOS_Redon2_hi10:27
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LOS_Redon2_can anyone ask me a question ??10:28
T3hWiz0rdwhen will the world end?10:28
LOS_Redon2_hahahaha10:28
LOS_Redon2_sorry, my english y very bad10:28
LOS_Redon2_can I ask a question ??10:30
T3hWiz0rdohh you ment can someone answer you10:30
LOS_Redon2_yeahh10:30
T3hWiz0rdi can try10:30
T3hWiz0rdbut i suck at life.10:30
LOS_Redon2_in breezy badger... what version of KDE comes with ?10:30
LOS_Redon2_exactly10:30
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LOS_Redon2_I have to download some files... and I need the exact version10:30
LOS_Redon2_3.5 ?10:30
RiddellLOS_Redon2_: 3.4.310:31
RiddellLOS_Redon2_: packages for 3.5 are available10:31
LOS_Redon2_by default I mean...10:31
LOS_Redon2_ok10:31
LOS_Redon2_thanks10:31
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LOS_Redon2_but...10:31
LOS_Redon2_can I download an application of 3.5 and run it under 3.4.3 ?10:32
LOS_Redon2_no...10:32
LOS_Redon2_I need the kdelibs ?10:32
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blahblahum.. what packages do i need to install to start programming in C?10:33
RiddellLOS_Redon2_: generally it will need kdelibs 3.510:33
Riddellaplg: new nick?10:33
LOS_Redon2_ok10:33
LOS_Redon2_thank you riddel10:34
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blahblah i installed gcc (4.0) and for some reason tha standard libs headers dont exist10:34
DaSkreechIf I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should  get KDE 3.510:34
aplgRiddell: nope, that's my 2nd10:36
aplgwhen apachelogger is ghosted ;-)10:36
manverutoday someone was so nice and sent me a virus... somehow that crappy wine didn't run it... :(10:39
permanewbgaboo-muadib adept doesn't show me package dependencies as far as I can tell. maybe I'll use synaptic or just use kdesu kpackage. it would be nice if the password problem didn't happen though.10:39
LOS_Redon2_riddel10:40
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marthi11:00
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martanyone have any luck with powernowd on an Athlon64?11:01
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yo2luxhi11:03
yo2luxwhat need to do to restart the dns server in linux?11:04
yo2luxi add an ip /etc/resolv.conf but no effect11:04
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yo2luxi don't want a computer restart11:04
_osh_Anyone tried to build crypto++ with gcc4 under kubuntu? I get annoying errors.11:05
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yo2luxi have kubuntu live cd and internet not work because kubuntu not apply my dns ip in /etc/resolv.conf11:07
yo2luxwhat need to do to restart /etc/resolv.conf?11:07
_osh_yo2lux: nothing11:08
yo2luxstrange but internet not work11:08
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yo2luxi add my ip, gateway and dns11:08
yo2luxbut nothing11:08
_osh_yo2lux: in resolv.conf? why?11:08
_osh_yo2lux: you added the ip/gw with ifconfig or something similar?11:09
_osh_yo2lux: and put your dns in resolv.conf I hope.11:10
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hunikahello people11:17
hunikawhere can i get the win32 codecs11:17
nalioth!w32codecs11:17
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba to install11:17
hunikathanks11:18
Blissexyo2lux: 'resolv.conf' is read by each program when it starts. Restart the programs that don't seem working.11:19
Blissexyo2lux: also, network config in Kubuntu is done in '/etc/network/interfaces', not '/etc/resolv.conf', where only the address of the DNS server should go.11:20
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Zugoti upgraded to 3.5 and the new amarok and my sound stopped working11:21
Zugoti sure do hate when that happens11:21
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Frymasterhi, can anyone help me with a strange problem installing kubuntu?11:27
LOS_Redon2_Which packages have I got to download to make work kaffeine and amarok in breezy release ???11:28
FrymasterI can't get past the "set up user account" series of prompts, they keep cycling through the same questions11:28
LOS_Redon2_dd11:28
Frymasterreal name / user name / password / password verification11:28
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LOS_Redon2_s11:30
LOS_Redon2_which packages have I got to get to make work kaffeine and amarok in breezy release ?11:30
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_osh_Apparently there's a problem with gcc4 and cryptopp. Seems to be a bug. Time for me to give up and go to sleep.11:33
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Frymaster...ah well, and here I thought kubuntu/ubunt were supposed to be the EASY installs... for a channel listed on the website as a support channel you ain't very supportive :)11:39
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BlissexFrymaster: patience...11:40
BlissexFrymaster: and more details...11:41
Flying_Eaglepay me the flight and 20$/hour and ill come over and help you...11:41
Frymasterlol11:41
Frymasterif someone would initiate a convo with me I might provide more details... tho tbh I don't have many more11:41
Flying_Eagleis the password long enough, what username do you use?11:42
BlissexFrymaster: just type publicly.11:42
Frymasterusername pgc11:42
Frymasterpassword 7 letters11:42
BlissexFrymaster: try something obvious, and then fix it later.11:42
Frymasterchanging password / username / user real name apperas to have no effect11:42
Frymasterwhen I forced install to proceed, (it ejected cd / let me reboot etc.) it naturally prompted me for pw again11:43
Flying_Eagleis there some switch like "do you want to create another user" that you accidently hit?11:43
Frymastergot errors along the lines of "user pgc does not exist" and "group pgc does not exist"11:43
Flying_EagleFrymaster, which ubuntu-version/architecture do you use?11:43
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Frymasterbut not 100% sure as they didn't stay up, was very brief non-ncurses error before the prompts cycled again11:43
Frymasterkubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso was the iso I burned11:44
martFrymaster: perhaps using Alt-F2 or Alt-F3 will show the errors11:45
Flying_Eagleyou took the word of my tongue, mart :D11:45
Frymasternot on initial setup screen it doesn't ( i restarted install on the off-chance)11:46
Flying_Eaglehm?11:46
Flying_Eagledont understand what you mean with " initial setup screen"... alt+Fx should change the screen11:47
Frymasteraye,11:47
martFrymaster: I mean, when it asks you for the user details for the second time, there might be some errors on the other terminals11:47
Frymasterthere isn't any11:47
Frymasterdetails*11:47
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darkheartFrymaster: You check the MD5sum before burning?11:49
darkheartor even after burning11:49
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Frymasterhmm gd point, how would I check the md5sum of a burned disk from xp? (not sommat that's come up before)11:51
BlissexFrymaster: I suppose you have to rip the data again back and then check the ripped ISO.11:52
BlissexFrymaster: but I think you can check the CD _from the CD_ itself.11:52
BlissexFrymaster: if anything just switch to a console, e.g. CTRL-ALT-F2 and then run 'md5sum /dev/hdc' (or whatever)./11:53
martI guess they don't build realplayer for 64bit?11:54
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Blissexmart: a bit out of luck there I think. One could use MPlayer/VLC with the ripped MS Windows DLLs, in 32 bit mode.11:56
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apacheloggerkood nikht11:56
martBlissex: um, 32 bit mode?  I've used linux32 before, is that what you mean?11:57
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Blissexmart: yes, something like that.11:57
Coolio10hi11:57
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Coolio10everytime i start an irc app it says cant find hostname?11:57
Coolio10i messed with my system a bit11:57
andreas__is it possible to change fonts on the fly in kde, from the command line?11:58
Blissexmart: but yes, basically try MPLayer with the MS Win libs. MPLayer may be able to use WIN 32 DLLs even if compiled in 64 bit mode.11:58
BlissexCoolio10: '/etc/hostname'11:58
Coolio10what about that?11:58
BlissexCoolio10: and then 'hostname $(< /etc/hostname)'.11:58
BlissexCoolio10: look inside it.11:58
martBlissex: sounds like a long shot :)  I'll see ...11:58
Coolio10also everytime i logoff it says cant talk to klauncher and brings up error window11:59
Coolio10should i reinstall it?11:59
BlissexCoolio10: that happens to me too sometimes... I haven't figure out why yet.11:59
BlissexCoolio10: if most stuff works, it should be OK.12:00
Coolio10oh12:00
Coolio10how do i access startup apps and services because my Storage Media is not showing up because the startup item is off12:00
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Frymasterblissex, turns out during install at least I don't have a /dev/hdANYTHING but trying that on another box gave input/putput error after 5 minutes of CD activity12:01
andreas__is it possible to change kde _theme_ with a shortcut key?12:01
andreas__or somehow make it possible12:01
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FrymasterI can't check the original iso as it's on the computer I'm trying to install kubuntu to, which currently doesn't have a working bootloader12:01
Blissexandreas__: look at 'dcop'/'kdcop'12:02
BlissexFrymaster: that CD does not sound that good,.12:02
andreas__Blissex, yeah sure, but where can I find some docs on it?12:02
andreas__not on dcop12:02
andreas__but on how to manipulate kde with it12:02
martdpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install): package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)12:03
martoh well ....12:03
Blissexandreas__: well, try 'kdcop' which is sort of self-explanatory.12:03
Blissexmart: try to force it, what you got to lose?12:03

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