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NafalloKeybuk: oh! will we have NetworkManager btw? :-)12:08
Keybukprobably not12:08
Keybukbecause it sucks12:09
Nafalloit does? wfm :-)12:09
Keybukit only works properly on IPW* cards12:09
Keybukcompletely fucks up on Atheros12:09
Nafalloadd ralink to where it works :-)12:09
Keybuk"ralink" ?12:10
Nafalloyea, we have the drivers in our default kernel :-)12:10
Nafallort2400/rt2500/rt257012:10
Keybukwhat are those?12:10
Keybukoh, wifi drivers12:10
Keybukit's a bit moot, because I have an Atheros ;)12:10
Keybukso it's a bit hard to test it and certify it for readyness <g>12:10
Nafallowell, if that's where it needs work... ;-)12:11
Nafalloit's probably not ready in that case. but we might want to put the stuff from bootlab in universe for dapper then? :-)12:12
Nafallohe has a patch for bind9 to use dbus and stuff :-P12:12
Keybukwe don't want bind9 in main12:12
Keybukuh, sorry12:12
Keybukwe don't want bind9 in desktop12:12
Keybuk*ahem*12:12
Nafalloagreed12:12
Keybukwe spent long enough getting rid of the default mta12:12
Keybukpatching glibc to allow resolv.conf changing is a much better idea12:13
Nafalloseems it doesn't even use it for me atm :-P12:13
jbaileyKeybuk: Right.12:13
jbaileyKeybuk: Got that patch for me? =)12:13
Nafallonafallo@darkelf:~/devel/nm $ cat /etc/resolv.conf12:13
Nafallo# generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!12:13
Nafallosearch magicalforest.se12:13
Nafallonameserver 192.168.0.112:13
Nafallonameserver 192.168.0.112:13
Nafallothat doesn't use 127.0.0.1, so why the dep on bind9? :-)12:14
Keybukjbailey: it's linked in the spec12:14
jbaileyNetworkMagic?12:14
NafalloKeybuk: anyway, if you don't work on it I'm free to play with it in universe? :-)12:14
Keybukhttp://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-09/msg00130.html12:14
jbailey'kay.  Maybe I'll drop that in tonight.12:21
=== Nafallo build a new NetworkManager with dropped dep on bind9 :-)
jbaileyDoes this mean we might actually get NM for dapper?12:29
=== jbailey does a hopeful dance.
NafalloI've been using it the whole dapper cycle atleast ;-)12:32
Nafalloand it's been behaving aswell :-)12:32
Nafalloany reason not to have dchroot in main? :-)12:33
jbaileyNafallo: If you use dchroot, you might be interested in http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/bzrtree/dchrootmgr/12:37
NafalloI don't yet. but it would be a nice thing to have :-).12:37
jbaileyNafallo: I'm just starting it whenever I have time, but the README should be an adequate explanation, as well as the code should be decently commented.12:37
Nafallo"dhcrootmgr is a collection of scripts designed to keep me from wiping out12:37
Nafallomy homedir by accident.  again."12:37
Nafalloyay, exactly the reason I don't use it :-P12:38
Nafallohmm, looks nice from the README atleast :-)12:41
jbaileyRight.  All it does so far is run debootstrap for you.12:43
jbaileyI should put more effort into it.12:43
jbaileyBut if you feel like flushiing out the README with more requirements, or feel like writing parts of it, lemme know.12:43
Nafallobzr pull http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/bzrtree/dchrootmgr/12:43
Nafallobzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /12:43
Nafallooh12:43
Nafallomy bad :-P12:43
jbaileyErr...12:44
=== Nafallo branches instead ;-)
jbaileyRight. =)12:44
Nafallo* Make --without-named work (j@bootlab.org)12:54
NafalloNetworkManager 0.5.012:54
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NafalloKeybuk: what NetworkManager is it that does not work for you ooi? :-)01:27
Keybukfrom a few weeks back01:29
KeybukI don't expect them to have fixed it yet, last time I looked the n-m authors were asserting it was a driver problem01:29
Keybukand were doing the "well, if you will own a card with non-free drivers" sulk01:29
Keybukunless there's a ChangeLog entry along the lines of "don't actively scan for new networks" then it's still broken01:30
Nafallo2005-10-19  Robert Love  <rml@novell.com>01:31
Nafallolast stable update ^ :-P01:31
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