[12:08] Keybuk: oh! will we have NetworkManager btw? :-) [12:08] probably not [12:09] because it sucks [12:09] it does? wfm :-) [12:09] it only works properly on IPW* cards [12:09] completely fucks up on Atheros [12:09] add ralink to where it works :-) [12:10] "ralink" ? [12:10] yea, we have the drivers in our default kernel :-) [12:10] rt2400/rt2500/rt2570 [12:10] what are those? [12:10] oh, wifi drivers [12:10] it's a bit moot, because I have an Atheros ;) [12:10] so it's a bit hard to test it and certify it for readyness [12:11] well, if that's where it needs work... ;-) [12:12] it's probably not ready in that case. but we might want to put the stuff from bootlab in universe for dapper then? :-) [12:12] he has a patch for bind9 to use dbus and stuff :-P [12:12] we don't want bind9 in main [12:12] uh, sorry [12:12] we don't want bind9 in desktop [12:12] *ahem* [12:12] agreed [12:12] we spent long enough getting rid of the default mta [12:13] patching glibc to allow resolv.conf changing is a much better idea [12:13] seems it doesn't even use it for me atm :-P [12:13] Keybuk: Right. [12:13] Keybuk: Got that patch for me? =) [12:13] nafallo@darkelf:~/devel/nm $ cat /etc/resolv.conf [12:13] # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! [12:13] search magicalforest.se [12:13] nameserver 192.168.0.1 [12:13] nameserver 192.168.0.1 [12:14] that doesn't use 127.0.0.1, so why the dep on bind9? :-) [12:14] jbailey: it's linked in the spec [12:14] NetworkMagic? [12:14] Keybuk: anyway, if you don't work on it I'm free to play with it in universe? :-) [12:14] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-09/msg00130.html [12:21] 'kay. Maybe I'll drop that in tonight. === Nafallo build a new NetworkManager with dropped dep on bind9 :-) [12:29] Does this mean we might actually get NM for dapper? === jbailey does a hopeful dance. [12:32] I've been using it the whole dapper cycle atleast ;-) [12:32] and it's been behaving aswell :-) [12:33] any reason not to have dchroot in main? :-) [12:37] Nafallo: If you use dchroot, you might be interested in http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/bzrtree/dchrootmgr/ [12:37] I don't yet. but it would be a nice thing to have :-). [12:37] Nafallo: I'm just starting it whenever I have time, but the README should be an adequate explanation, as well as the code should be decently commented. [12:37] "dhcrootmgr is a collection of scripts designed to keep me from wiping out [12:37] my homedir by accident. again." [12:38] yay, exactly the reason I don't use it :-P [12:41] hmm, looks nice from the README atleast :-) [12:43] Right. All it does so far is run debootstrap for you. [12:43] I should put more effort into it. [12:43] But if you feel like flushiing out the README with more requirements, or feel like writing parts of it, lemme know. [12:43] bzr pull http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/bzrtree/dchrootmgr/ [12:43] bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: / [12:43] oh [12:43] my bad :-P [12:44] Err... === Nafallo branches instead ;-) [12:44] Right. =) [12:54] * Make --without-named work (j@bootlab.org) [12:54] NetworkManager 0.5.0 === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-boot [01:27] Keybuk: what NetworkManager is it that does not work for you ooi? :-) [01:29] from a few weeks back [01:29] I don't expect them to have fixed it yet, last time I looked the n-m authors were asserting it was a driver problem [01:29] and were doing the "well, if you will own a card with non-free drivers" sulk [01:30] unless there's a ChangeLog entry along the lines of "don't actively scan for new networks" then it's still broken [01:31] 2005-10-19 Robert Love [01:31] last stable update ^ :-P === maks_ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-boot === maks__ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-boot === maks_ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-boot === maks_ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-boot === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.17.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-boot === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-boot === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has left #ubuntu-boot [] === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-boot === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-boot === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-boot === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-boot === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-boot === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-boot === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.17.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-boot === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-boot === maks_ is now known as makx === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-boot