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mdkemgalvin, images are up12:50
mgalvinmdke: sorry, where exactly are they12:56
mdkehttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/images/C/12:57
mgalvinthnx12:57
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Burgworksalut rob1 01:14
mdkehi rob1 01:14
mgalvinok the images are now getting pulled from d.u.c01:16
mgalvinthnx mdke01:16
mdkecool01:16
mdkethey are taking ages to load ;)01:17
mdkethat stupid server responds slowly01:18
mgalvinyea i see01:18
mgalvinmaybe i should just use my server for now, it looks bad to have it take this long01:18
mdkethe page has been open 3 mins or so, still no images01:19
mgalvinbeen 30 seconds now :-/, i am going to roll it back to use my server for the time being01:19
mgalvink reverted for now01:21
mgalvinoh well01:21
mdkesorry bout that01:21
mgalvinno prob, not your fault01:21
mgalvinas long as I don't go over i think 20GB transfer/m i don't mind01:21
mdkethat damn doc server is just not responding at all right now01:21
mgalvindoes it look ok for you know that i reverted it?01:22
mdkeyeah01:22
mgalvink, cool01:23
mdkeare the thumbnails on the wiki?01:23
mgalvinyea, and they link to the full images01:23
mdkeeh?01:23
mdkelooks to me like the thumbnails are on your server too01:23
mdkemight be an idea to have them hosted on the wiki, to save space, if poss01:23
mgalvinoh, sorry, yes all the images are on my sever01:24
mdkeit might save you bandwidth to have the thumbs on the wiki01:24
mgalvinno worries for now, got plenty to spare for the time being01:24
mdkenot everyone will click :)01:24
mgalvintrue, but was that whole problem with not being able to use the attachments in a link01:25
mdke-> bed01:25
mgalvinnight01:25
mdkemgalvin, you should be able to do [http://yoursite/bigimage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/whatevertheaddressis.png] 01:26
mdkenight01:26
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jsgotangcojdub, yo!03:55
jdubyo!03:57
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LaserJockis there a reason to have "<!ENTITY ubuntu '<phrase>Ubuntu</phrase>'>04:34
LaserJockother than not having to capitalize?04:34
jdubLaserJock: branding05:06
LaserJockjdub: how so?05:08
jdubif someone creates a derivative called "Shockmaster 3000", they can replace all the ubuntu bits with Shockmaster 300005:08
LaserJockahh, ok05:10
LaserJockso it's easier for them to use our stuff ;-)05:10
jdubindeed05:11
LaserJockok, well as long as I know it is there for a reason05:13
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LaserJockhi theCore 06:07
theCoreLaserJock, hello06:17
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jsgotangcowow guys the docs in flight 2 are awesome10:30
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jsgotangcohey all04:00
jjessehiya jsgotangco04:00
jsgotangcohey jjesse 04:01
jsgotangcowhat's up?04:01
jjessenot much, just installed flight2 of kubuntu04:01
jsgotangcohow did it go?04:03
jjessesmooth04:03
jsgotangcomine was pretty bad04:04
jsgotangcofor this laptop04:04
jsgotangcogot no sound04:04
jjessereally? this is an old dell desktop that i use for testing, worked fine04:04
jsgotangcoi did an oem and its currently broken04:04
jsgotangcowould it be a good time to update the quickguide?04:05
jjesseyeah i think it would be04:05
jjessequickguide and release notes04:05
jsgotangcook04:05
jsgotangcoi should get flight 2 of kubuntu later then04:06
jjessei haven't had much time to work on docs also do to some things been working on windows partition all week04:06
jsgotangcohmm it would be nice if we could do something like what matt galvin did on the wiki04:06
jjessestarted on KubuntuDapperFlight2 but then didn't get a chance to finish04:07
jjessei didn't know that dapper flight2 was so readay to be releasedd04:07
jjessemaybe i'm not subscribing to the right mailing lists or something04:08
jjessebut i found out whne mgalvin started working on it04:08
jjesseor posted about it04:08
jsgotangcoits ok no rush i guess we 2 are the kubuntu doc people still04:08
jjessei got another user who wants to work on the desktop guide for kubuntu docs,  i gotta email him again04:08
jjesseso what mailing list would i need to subscribe to know when the next flight is comming out so i can work up a KubuntuFlight3 or whatever wiki page beofre the announcment??04:39
mgalvinubuntu-devel-announce@lists.ubuntu.com04:41
mgalvinbut it was also sent to -users04:41
mgalvinits called Flight CD 204:41
mgalvinfrom colin04:41
jjesseubuntu-users?04:41
mgalvinyea04:41
mgalvinthe email header said it was cc'd to -users04:42
jjessehow did you know about it before it was released so you could have it done before the announcement?04:42
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mgalvinjjesse: i hang around on #ubuntu-devel -kernel -boot and had been working on a problem with colin and fabio 04:55
jjessehmm i didn't see much on #kubuntu-devel on flight2 being ready, i guess i must have missed it someplace04:56
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LaserJockhi theCore 09:19
theCoreLaserJock, hello09:19
theCoreLaserJock, are you working on the PG ?09:21
LaserJocklittle bit09:21
theCorecool09:21
LaserJockI think I got the intro done for now and am starting on Getting Started09:21
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LaserJocktheCore: have you done anything more on the PG?09:38
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LaserJocktheCore: wb10:18
theCoreLaserJock, yes ?10:20
LaserJockhave you done any more work on the PG?10:20
theCoreLaserJock, i'm working on some examples10:22
theCorenothing fancy, however...10:22
LaserJockusing what?10:22
theCoredebhelper10:23
LaserJockk10:23
theCoreit's just a matter to getting the proper commands, and put some explainations around them 10:24
theCorehow should we make the reader get the hello pkg ?10:31
theCore`apt-get source hello' or from a tarball from the web ?10:31
LaserJockapt-get source I think10:32
LaserJockit is the easiest10:33
theCorehowever, it doesn't represent the reality of a maintainer ...10:35
LaserJockwell, for the most part it actually does10:35
LaserJockthere really aren10:35
LaserJockthat many new packages10:35
LaserJockit is usually merges and bugfixes that are done10:35
theCorethen, we should put the two examples: one with apt-get, and another with wget10:36
LaserJockI think it can be all in one example10:37
theCorehmm, how we would do that ?10:37
LaserJockI mean you basically go through what all the elements of the /debian directory are10:37
LaserJockI mean when you do apt-get source you get the tarball so there really isn't a difference10:38
theCorethat right, and with the package from scratch example, spliting the example shouldn't be necessary10:40
theCorewe use `hello-debhelper', right ?10:42
LaserJockI think it is easier to explain the /debian directory than have the reader make it. maybe we can have a little box with some of the "from scratch" stuff10:42
LaserJocktheCore: I think so, I haven't taken a look at it yet10:43
LaserJockI just used hello10:43
LaserJockbut I think hello-debhelper should be good too10:43
LaserJockI think we might have to create a hello-cdbs ourselves10:44
theCorethere is `hello-dbs' is it for cdbs ?10:44
LaserJockno it is for dbs, which is different10:45
LaserJockit is crazy how many different systems there are for packaging10:45
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