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raphinkanyone could review knmap please ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=116712:25
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raphinkhmm12:44
raphinkI'm reviewing tex4ht12:44
raphinkit uses 20051130-1ubuntu1 as the version12:44
raphinkthe maintainer is the official debian maintainer, and this package was built over 20050402.1817-112:45
raphinkbut  20051130-1 doesn't exist in debian sid12:45
raphinkso shouldn't it be 200051130-0ubuntu1 ?12:45
raphinkajmitch: any idea?12:45
raphinkslomo: ?12:46
minghuaraphink: I _think_ it was in NEW but now seems to be rejected12:46
minghualet me check12:47
raphinkah ok12:47
raphinkwhere do you see that minghua ?12:48
minghuaraphink: I remembered correctly: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2005/12/msg00115.html12:49
raphinkoh it's on the lists12:49
raphinkthere's no web interface?12:49
minghuaraphink: no idea where it is now though, not in the NEW queue for sure12:50
raphinkok thanks12:50
minghuaraphink: oh you don't know the web interace for NEW queue?  http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html12:50
raphinkthanks12:50
minghuaraphink: I've seen tex4ht there a few days ago12:50
raphinkok12:51
raphinkgood12:51
minghuaraphink: and if you follow that thread, you'll the package has a few problems, and the maintainer is improving it12:51
raphinkok12:52
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_sergiohello01:15
_sergioanyone know about faad, or gstreamer0.8-faad plugin support in ubuntu?01:15
crimsunwhat about it?01:16
crimsun500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages01:16
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LaserJock\sh: feeling any better?01:43
\shna i just woke up again...01:43
ajmitchcan't sleep now?01:44
\shajmitch: I slept the whole day every once and a while...01:44
ajmitchhm01:44
\shI tried to watch some movies today....just felt asleep in the middle of them...and woke up right after the end...well...I should go to a doctor01:46
ajmitchyeah, I think it's a good idea01:46
ajmitchyou've been well for too long, and now you're sicker than you should be01:47
\shoh..and btw..whenever you have the chance to watch harry potter and the goblet of fire...please watch it..one of the best01:47
LaserJock\sh: I haven't seen any of them. I should do that some time.01:51
\shoh...the european parlament just agreed, that all phone, fax, sms, email etc. traffic must be stored for more the a reasonable time...means...we have to send now only emails gpg encrypted..so they have garbage01:52
\shLaserJock: read the books first..much better, more fun :)01:52
LaserJock\sh: really, cool.01:52
LaserJock\sh: how long do they want to store them?01:53
ajmitchyears?01:53
\shmore then min. 18 months01:53
ajmitchcrazy01:54
LaserJockseems like there wouldn't be enough space for all that, phones especially01:54
ajmitchsince obviously all citizens are potential terrorists..01:54
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\shLaserJock: oh the goverment only needs to grab the data...the companies have to save them in a secure place..that again is a really big problem01:55
\shgood morning ogra01:55
ajmitchso all companies need to save phone calls, emails, etc for all employees?01:55
\shajmitch: for all customers01:55
ajmitchhm01:56
\shajmitch: for most of the companies which are using exchange, saving mails is default01:56
ajmitchs/saving/anything with/01:56
\shajmitch: my former companie is doing that a long time...and lawful interception is now going to be crazy01:56
raphinkthanks for reviewing grub-splashimages Riddell :)01:57
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freeflyingraphink: hi02:07
raphinkhi freeflying02:08
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Kyralsomeone tell me when is the worse time for a crash when using ext3?02:20
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Kyralbecause I think it just happened to one of my friends02:21
ajmitchKyral: when the hard drive goes down in flames?02:21
KyralI meant for the Journel...02:21
ajmitchsame answer :)02:22
ajmitchit's generally fairly robust02:22
KyralBasically he pulled the power in the middle of an Apt install and when it came up (after 4 tries) it wouldn't let him sudo saying something in Var is RO02:22
Kyraland he can't use his file manager02:23
ajmitchright02:23
ajmitchthat was a fairly stupid thing to do then02:23
KyralI think he pulled the power in the worst moment lol02:23
KyralI told him to go to recovery mode and set the mount count on the drive to 10002:24
Kyralto force a check :D02:24
ajmitchor he could use fsck, which does the same thing..02:26
Kyralhe only has one partition (aside from swap) and no LiveCDs02:26
ajmitchclever02:26
KyralHe's not one of us who carries a LiveCD wherever they go02:27
Kyral;P02:27
ajmitchthe ones in my bag are dead :)02:27
Kyrallol02:27
ajmitcha patch on the reflective layer is damaged02:27
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raphinkgn guys :)02:56
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lifelesshelp!03:50
lifelessI need a motu with ~ 10 minutes of spare cycle03:50
lifelesss03:50
lifelesswe've got a problem we're tracking down with the launchpad code base on amd64, and we'd like a patch to libgpgme11 1.0.2-1build1 to build a -dbg package03:50
lifelessI'm insanely busy today, so I'm hoping one of you kind folk has the time to do this [minor]  tweak03:51
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lifelessNafallo: thanks!04:04
lifelessNafallo: its really easy:04:04
lifeless1) check debian/compat == 504:04
lifeless2) add a control rule for libgpgme11-dbg with appropriate description etc04:04
lifelessset the dependencies to libgpgme11 (= ${Source-Version}) (check that for typos ;))04:05
lifeless3) when dh_strip is called, add --dbg-package=libgpgme11-dbg04:05
lifelesstest ;)04:05
Nafalloyea, I've given it to pbuilder. why compat 5?04:05
lifelesscompat 4 has different behaviour04:05
lifelessman dh_strip for the details04:06
Nafallohmm, it was using 3 ;-)04:07
lifeless:)04:07
lifelessoh, and build-dep on binutils, my bad ;)04:08
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Nafalloit was for amd64, right? :-)04:24
lifelessdont need binaries04:25
lifelessin the DC everything is rebuilt anyway04:25
Nafallooh nm, it was :-)04:25
lifelessjust an interdiff against the prior .diff.gz will be great, because I can feed that to Znarl04:25
Nafallodooh04:26
Nafallohttp://www.magicalforest.se/~nafallo/repo/foo/04:26
Nafallohttp://www.magicalforest.se/~nafallo/gpgme1.0_1.0.2-1ubuntu1.debdiff04:27
lifelessAccess forbidden!04:27
Nafallooh?04:28
lifelesstry it ;)04:28
Nafallodooh04:28
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Nafallodone now04:29
lifelessnice. A small bit of feedback ..04:30
lifeless+ This package contains the debug version of the library found in libgpgme11.04:30
lifeless+04:30
lifelessmore accurate would be:04:30
lifelessThis package contains debug symbols for the library found in libgpgme11.04:30
lifeless(its not a full library in there)04:30
lifelessthanks heaps.04:30
Nafallotrue :-). I stole the desc from libdmx-dbg ;-)04:30
Nafalloso I totally blame daniels ;-)04:31
lifelesswell hes on crack, so whaddya expect ;)04:31
Nafallohehe04:31
jsgotangcook waiting for flight 2 download to finish04:36
jsgotangco2 hours argh!04:36
NafalloI did that before the announcement today and then just kept seeding ;-)04:37
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YagisanG'day all07:24
YagisanI've found a w32codecs package in an unofficial debian repo that is an installer like msttcorefonts, can we include it in ubuntu ?07:26
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jsgotangcoi believe those are reverse engineered codecs from the original ms codecs07:27
Yagisanjsgotangco: It's just an installer, it wgets the codecs from the web07:28
jsgotangcoah it grabs the codecs from MS? neat07:28
Yagisanjsgotangco: actually, from an mplayer mirror07:29
Yagisanno objections ?07:34
jsgotangcoi still find it dodgy though07:37
minghuanot sure.  the ms core fonts have a license that allows redistribution, what about the codecs?07:39
Yagisanminghua: I'll see if I can check the codecs, but they are mirrored over the web, and end up on magazine cd's every month or so07:41
YagisanI thought it might be useful, since ubuntu isn't actually distributing the codecs, it just distributes an installer, like with flash, and other non-free apps07:43
minghuaYagisan: that would be good.  if it has a redistributable license I don't see any reason to object such an installer package07:43
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LaserJock_hi dholbach08:03
dholbachgood morning motus08:03
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LaserJock_dholbach: how's it going?08:05
dholbachnicely... just need to wake up :)08:07
dholbachsome coffee will do and get me through the status update meeting08:07
LaserJock_hmm, I need to get to bed08:07
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LaserJock_just working on the Packaging Guide a bit before I do08:08
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siretartmorning08:13
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bojanmorning!08:26
YagisanG'day siretart08:35
YagisanI'll be starting work on the backport package a bit latter tonight, mind if I ask you some questions about it later ?08:36
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zakamehello from manila! :D08:37
dholbachhello zakame08:39
dholbachhow are you? how's life over there?08:39
zakamehi dholbach ! :D08:39
Yagisanslomo: can we add x264 support to mplayer ? It would need the x264 package from here http://apt.cerkinfo.be/pool/main/x264/ and to add libx264-dev as a build-dep08:39
zakamejust arrived in Manila from Daet, after a rather uneventful 7-hour busride :)08:40
slomoYagisan: that's only an encoder, right? but sure, i have it already an my todo list... if it's important enough for you just package x264 :) i'll get to this or next weekend otherwise08:41
slomoYagisan: oh, no need to... marillat already has a package for it... let's see if we can take it...08:42
Yagisanslomo: I found the cerkinfo package :) and yes it is an encoder08:43
slomoso only relevant for mencoder... ok08:43
slomooh no... another static-only lib :(08:43
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Yagisanslomo: It lets me encode mpeg4 part 10 streams , instead of mpeg4 part 208:44
zakameyay! gtklp fanmail! :D08:44
Yagisanslomo: the cerkinfo one doesn't look static08:44
slomoYagisan: yes, h264... btw, does decoding it work for you with current mplayer?08:44
Yagisanslomo: decode "should" work with your new mplayer, but not encode08:45
slomoYagisan: but it _should_ be... upstream doesn't build shared libs by default and they seem to have fun with breaking API/ABI08:45
slomoYagisan: yes, it should ;) but i have nothing to test it :(08:45
Yagisanslomo: the cerkinfo guy split out ffmpeg for his mplayer08:45
Yagisanslomo: I do :)08:45
slomoYagisan: what is cerkinfo btw?08:46
siretartslomo: I've seen that marillat has a new dvd copying software called k9copy now08:46
Yagisanslomo: http://apt.cerkinfo.be/08:47
siretartslomo: it builds in dapper, but thats all what I tried. I intend to upload it the next days. Just wanted to ask if you have heared about it08:47
slomosiretart: ok, let's get it if they're not insane (i.e. ship css ;) )08:47
slomosiretart: no, never heard of it... can you get x264 in while you're at it? ;)08:47
siretartslomo: if I understood it correctly it is a kde frontend to dvdauthor (which we already have)08:47
siretartI haven't even heard about x26408:48
sivangmorning all08:48
zakamehi sivang ! :)08:48
Yagisanslomo: breezys mplayer can decode x264 streams easily08:49
slomosiretart: it's just a h264 encoding library... which definitly needs to go to multiverse08:49
slomoYagisan: yes but i ask for the dapper one ;P08:49
Yagisansiretart: mpeg4 part 10 - think high-qulaity xvid08:49
zakamedholbach: w00t! :D08:49
siretartYagisan: I assume it is highly patent encumbered08:50
Yagisanslomo: dapper has a more compatible h264 decoding libary, I doubt there is a regression08:50
Yagisansiretart: so is jpeg08:50
slomosiretart: sure... what do you expect? it's mpeg :P08:50
Yagisansiretart: it is also an iso standard08:50
siretartYagisan: iso allows patented algorithm to be standardised :( (is this spelled correctly?)08:52
zakamesiretart: yup :D08:53
zakamethough standardized is also ok08:53
Yagisansiretart: yep, ignore the overuse of the letter zed08:53
siretartYagisan: you want to join MOTUMedia, btw?08:53
zakamehehe08:54
Yagisansiretart: I lack programming skills for that, but I can help test if you like ?08:54
slomosiretart: they allow everything, as long as it can be licensed under non-discriminatory terms08:55
Yagisansiretart: I took an interest in this when my daughter started using my dvds for teething08:55
siretartYagisan: you could try to package x264 and upload it to revu, using our MOTUMedia list as maintainer :)08:55
Yagisansiretart: sure08:55
siretartI'm at work, and will be able to work on packages not before this late afternoon08:55
slomosiretart: x264 is already packaged by marillat... another static-only library to make us happy08:56
siretartah, sounds easy then08:56
Yagisanslomo: I have a non-static libary08:56
Yagisanslomo: It also produces the x264 stand alone encoder08:56
slomoYagisan: which is most probably hacked in... at least their svn versions don't build a shared library08:57
Yagisanslomo: I'll take another look at the package then08:57
slomoYagisan: thanks :)08:58
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jsgotangcohey dholbach08:59
Yagisanslomo: I can't find anything hackish to make a static lib here, anyway I've tossed it into pbuilder, lets see what pops out08:59
dholbachre :)08:59
zakamewb dholbach09:00
slomoYagisan: --enable-shared to configure?09:00
Yagisanslomo: no, want me to send you the package ? ~300K09:02
Yagisanslomo: dappers mplayer plays back x264 files fine with the h264 decoder :)09:03
slomoYagisan: no, not needed... anyway, we only have a libx264-dev package... so there's no normal package for the shared library... seems to be a mistake by the packager that it's included09:03
Yagisanslomo: x264 does have a standalone encoder09:04
Yagisanslomo: mainly used by m$ windows users x264.exe09:04
slomoYagisan: i know :)09:05
Yagisanargh, I forgot to backport yasm to build it09:05
Yagisanslomo: I'll fix the deps and send you a link when x264 is in revu09:07
slomoYagisan: thanks09:07
Yagisanslomo: Who should I add for the uploader field ? I'm not a motu, so I can't upload09:09
slomoYagisan: for x264? well, if the marillat package is fine just upload it without changing :)09:10
slomoYagisan: leave uploader/maintainer as it is09:11
Yagisanslomo: It's not a marrilat package - but I'll leave maintainer intact09:11
slomoYagisan: the one by noel?09:11
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Yagisanslomo: yep09:13
slomoYagisan: it's almost the same except marillat's packaging looked a bit cleaner at the first look ;)09:13
Yagisanslomo: I didn't see it in marillat's repo, I'll look again09:14
slomoit's in x/x26409:15
Yagisanslomo: It seems marrilat has a slightly newer version. /me downloads09:17
slomoYagisan: ok :)09:17
Yagisanslomo: I heard you you upload rights to main a while ago ?09:19
Yagisans/you you/you got09:19
slomoyes09:20
Yagisanslomo: congratulations09:22
slomothanks :)09:22
Yagisanslomo: Finally agreed on a name for my son yesterday, only took almost 4 weeks09:23
ajmitchhi09:25
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YagisanG'day ajmitch, how are things in kiwi land ?09:26
zakamehi ajmitch :D09:26
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ajmitchgreat, how's things going over your side?09:26
ajmitchhow's the family?09:26
siretartmorning ajmitch :)09:27
slomohi ajmitch :)09:27
ajmitchhey siretart09:27
ajmitchsiretart: revu-build question - when I run it, I don't have permission to write out the filelists, postinsts, etc09:27
ajmitchcan we make the directories owned by a group so we can all write there?09:28
siretartajmitch: it should call pbuilder with root09:28
ajmitchpbuilder is called with root09:28
siretarti.e. with sudo09:28
ajmitchbut the other files generated are done as the user09:29
ajmitchsince revu-build calls dpkg-deb09:29
siretartah, but it cannot write the output files, damn09:29
ajmitchif /var/revu/revu1-incoming is group-writeable & sticky, it should be fine09:29
siretartajmitch: add yourself to the group 'revu'09:29
ajmitchactually all the dirs are owned by revu..09:29
ajmitchhm09:30
siretartajmitch: the incoming directories should be group writeable09:30
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Yagisanajmitch: family is ok, named my son at last, and I now need to arm myself to go to the shops because of the rioting fucktards09:30
ajmitchYagisan: that crazy there?09:30
siretartajmitch: if they aren't, then sudo chown/chmod it, they should be, if not, there is somewhere a bug then09:30
ajmitchsiretart: yeah they are09:30
ajmitchsiretart: with revu2, do you think email notification of comments will be useful?09:31
Yagisanajmitch: we'll the lebs have pssed off every single other ethnic group, and were attacking children, and burning churches near my house09:31
Yagisanajmitch: so yes, that crazy09:31
ajmitchYagisan: that's insane09:31
siretartajmitch: very useful!09:31
Yagisanajmitch: they opened fire on a christian primary school!!!09:31
ajmitchsiretart: I notice that we can have a month or two go by without a comment, and then someone adds one09:31
zakameYagisan: whoa09:32
ajmitchYagisan: the lebanese people?09:32
ajmitchor others?09:32
Yagisanajmitch: yes, the lebanese people09:32
siretartajmitch: /me too, we need to fix that with revu209:32
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ajmitchI thought lebanon was still majority Christian anyway09:33
Yagisanajmitch: they did. The school is a 20 minute walk from my house09:33
Yagisanajmitch: it is actually the muslim lebanese that are causing the trouble09:33
ajmitcha shame09:34
Yagisanajmitch: the burnt down a church belonging to pacific islanders near auburn hospital09:34
ajmitchI can understand why people are getting very mad over it09:34
Yagisanajmitch: It's a religious problem09:35
zakameajmitch: if you have time, could you check my libmemcache http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=929 ? :)09:35
ajmitchreligious & ethnic09:35
ajmitchand just general stupidity09:35
Yagisanajmitch: yep - and all I see on OS media is "white supremacists" attacked blah blah blah09:36
ajmitchzakame: 420KB diff?09:36
ajmitchof course09:36
ajmitchin wellington there were posters put up calling for 'white power' to rise up.. etc09:36
ajmitchmore crap but it never goes anywhere here09:36
zakameajmitch: yep, autotools update09:37
Yagisanajmitch: yep, but I saw the crowds, it was whites, blacks, asians, and pacific islanders taking revenge on anyone that looked like a leb09:37
zakamethough I suspect I could drop that09:37
ajmitchzakame: it's an awful lot for me to scroll through09:38
zakamewaah09:38
jsgotangcobut its nothing for the dark motu lord ajmitch09:38
ajmitchjsgotangco: I hope you come to dunedin just so I can dunk you in the harbour :)09:40
zakamehaha09:41
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Yagisanslomo: x264 has been sent to revu. Should appear in 10 minutes09:47
slomoYagisan: thanks... any changes from marillat?09:47
Yagisanslomo: just s/unstable/dapper and adding multiverse to control. probally should have made the -dev an all instead of any09:49
slomoYagisan: no... any is needed09:50
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Yagisanslomo: oh ? I'd have though headers should be arch all. Nice to know I didn't stuff up then.09:51
slomoYagisan: it's not only headers but the static library and in this case also the shared one which shouldn't be in the -dev package ;)09:52
Yagisanslomo: you are quite right. That is a stuff up09:53
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zakamethanks ajmitch :D09:55
zakamebbl09:55
lucashi all09:55
jsgotangcohaha09:59
jsgotangcoajmitch, have you seen AsiaBusinessTour?09:59
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slomobbl10:00
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Yagisansiretart: not wanting to sound dumb, but was my upload rejected from revu ?10:03
lucasYagisan: if it's not in the list, it was rejected10:03
lucasthe most common error (everybody does it once) is that REVU uploads have to be source-only10:04
Yagisanlucas: I see, I did source + binary. /me adjusts the pbuilder config10:04
lucasor dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -I.bzr10:06
siretartYagisan: jepp, it was rejected. revu only reacts to *_source.changes files for now10:07
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siretartYagisan: shall I remove your upload?10:07
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Yagisansiretart, lucas: thanks. It's been a while since I used revu. siretart please remove, an new source only upload is on its way10:07
siretartYagisan: done, you may reupload now10:08
Yagisansiretart: thanks10:08
Yagisanx264 correctly uploaded now10:09
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Yagisanslomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=117810:12
Yagisanbbl10:13
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ajmitchjsgotangco: interesting :)10:16
ajmitchjsgotangco: I see of course there's an NZ entry, for LCA10:17
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jsgotangcowell yeah i guess its logical to stay for a day or 2 for business10:18
ajmitchsure10:19
ajmitchdunno who they're going to meet & talk to :)10:20
jsgotangcoit'll probably be different generally in asia10:22
ajmitchcertainly10:23
ajmitchdunedin is a slightly smaller place, there might be interested businesses here & a local LUG10:23
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ajmitchI should either file a bug on this or just fixup the merge10:37
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raphinkhow do we deal with NMU in Ubuntu?12:47
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ograraphink, how would you do an NMU with non personalized packages ?12:49
ograthere are no NMUs12:50
raphinkok12:50
raphinkso we just ignore NMU warnings in lintian12:50
ograits nice to talk to the guy who touched the package last though12:50
ograyes12:50
raphinkok12:50
raphink:)12:50
StevenKWell, there are sorta no MU's in universe, either. :-)12:54
raphink:)12:55
raphinkogra: do you have some time to review packages?01:22
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raphinksiretart: are you there?01:54
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siretartraphink: yepp02:57
raphinkhi siretart02:57
raphinkI requested membership for the reviewers team on LP02:58
raphinkdo you think I could apply?02:58
siretartraphink: when I'm home, (in a few hours), okay?03:02
raphinkok :)03:02
siretartbah, svenl is accusing me being too harsh and aggressive..03:03
siretartI think I did it :/03:03
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zakameevening all04:00
lucashi zakame04:01
zakamehey lucas :) how's ruby?04:02
lucasprobably good, since RubyOnRails 1.0 is out and ruby must be all over the news04:03
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zakameyeah, i read that on planet debian as well :)04:05
\sh*cough* moins04:18
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imnesI've downloaded some package sources with apt-get source gnome-panel and made some code changes, what commands do I need to build / install to test it out?05:14
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Amaranthimnes: cd into the gnome-panel-2.12.whatever dir and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc05:14
imnesAfter making changes should I bump the verison number on the directory or does it not matter?05:15
Amaranthyou'd edit the debian/changelog file but it doesn't matter if you're doing local patching05:15
Amaranthif you're patching breezy it'll more or less be a patch for you only, breezy is frozen05:16
imnesYeah I'd like to do an official patch for the dev releases if it hasn't already been implemented, basically I'd like to add a gconf key to toggle drawing the arrow on a panel menu button.  Right now (in breezy anyway) it's hardcoded to always draw.05:17
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pescoGreetings, MOTU. Is this also the right channel for packages in the multiverse?05:21
\shdholbach: ping05:21
\shdholbach: if you could have a look on istanbul...same problem as the last time..different file sizes of orig.tar.gz and seb128 touched it the last time...05:25
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thierryis it possible to package something from scratch with cdbs??05:28
Amaranthyes05:29
imnesAmaranth: works great, thanks for the help.05:33
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thierryok but is there any howto on how to package something from scrach with cdbs... all I get is howto about how to switch a package to cdbs...05:43
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JohnnyMasthellow05:44
thierryhi05:44
JohnnyMasteverything alright ?05:47
thierryJohnnyMast : what do you mean?05:48
JohnnyMastif ur fine05:48
thierryyes yes05:49
thierryI just don't know if there is any howto on how to package something from scrach with cdbs... all I get is howto about how to switch a package to cdbs...05:49
JohnnyMastyou should look on debian i think05:51
JohnnyMastOR05:51
azeemthierry: you just drop the three or four well known include /usr/share/cdbs/1/foo/bar.mk lines into debian/rules and fix up anything which breaks05:51
JohnnyMastcheck the chatlogs from #ubuntu-motu-school with ajmitch giving a lecruee05:51
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thierryazeem : seriously? wow! so I make the debian/rules and the control and changelog file and that's it? I try building it?05:53
azeemthierry: well, the difference between cdbs and non-cdbs is only in debian/rules05:53
azeemand a Build-Depends on cdbs, of course05:53
jamessanyes, but it'd be good if you understood how things work without cdbs.05:54
azeemso just make the package like you would otherwise, and write a debian/rules for cdbs, which is trivial for easy projects05:54
thierryjamessan : yeah... but I got a easy project to try and it just looks so longggg without cdbs...05:54
JohnnyMastthierry welcome to packaging  :)05:54
thierry:)05:55
jamessanthierry: it is a bit longer, but then you understand how things truly work behind the curtains05:55
thierrythe long stuff doesn't bother me... it just the long AND hard to understand that bother me05:55
azeemyou should really try to understand them05:56
thierryI've learn a lot with the last course on motu-school about package without cdbs or debhelper but some stuff just looks impossible to understand...05:57
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dholbach\sh: dunno what debian did on that project *shrug*05:58
JohnnyMastwhen is/was the meeting ?05:59
\shdholbach: they brought in 0.1.1-1 ,)05:59
\shdholbach: and I wonder why the don't use our orig.tar.gz but a different one....or we used a different one...05:59
dholbach\sh: i used upstream's one05:59
dholbachoh well05:59
\shdholbach: seriously...how can we avoid this..it makes life not much easier for us :)06:00
thierryJohnyMast : the 10 december06:00
dholbach\sh: we can't06:00
JohnnyMastthierry no not that one06:01
JohnnyMastthe motu meeting now the motu-school06:01
JohnnyMasti wrote a plan op dholbach`s Open day06:01
JohnnyMast*on06:01
ogra\sh, life ? easy ?06:01
ograhahahaha06:01
\shogra: i'm refering to virtual life...this should be easier then real life :)06:02
\shbut I CAN BE WRONG (tm)06:02
ogra:)06:02
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\shoh damn....not again...fever starts again...this morning it just dropped below 38 deg C...and now...oh wow06:02
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JohnnyMastthierry : http://www.rosiello.net/ubuntu/06:03
\shogra: how is suse doing? getting better?06:06
thierryJohnnyMast : wow... great Idea...06:06
thierryJohnnyMast : I think I'll post my questions there next time06:07
JohnnyMastwell it still has to be discussed during the MOTU meeting wich i queryed for earlyr06:07
thierryk, but I really think it's a great idea06:08
ogra\sh, got a tooth pulled today ...06:08
ograhopefully that helps ....06:09
JohnnyMast:) you can also msn me or email me if you cant find some one to help or ppl are bussy06:09
\shogra: ugh...thank god I'm avoiding the dentist ,)06:09
JohnnyMastaah its the next hour06:12
thierryJohnnyMast : what's your msn?06:12
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JohnnyMastravecoolr@hotmail.com06:12
pefhello06:12
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JohnnyMasthello pef06:12
thierryJohnnyMast : just added you to my list06:13
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thierryJohnnyMast : How can I create a new changelog with dch?06:22
azeemdch -n06:23
Hieronymusthierry: http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/freenode/2005/12/09/%23ubuntu-motu-school.log06:24
Hieronymusthierry: bookmark that06:24
thierryHieronymus : k but I know what is a changelog, I just don't know how to create one with dch06:26
thierryazeem : do I have the create a empty changelog file before?06:26
azeemoh, that06:26
azeemI thought you meant a new changelog entry06:26
azeemdunno about that, sorry06:26
thesaltydogthierry.. dch is quite useless. Just edit the changelog06:28
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JohnnyMastthierry ok added06:31
jamessanthesaltydog: what's wrong with dch?06:31
thesaltydognothing...06:31
thesaltydogI said it is just easier to edit the ChangeLog06:31
jamessandch auto-updates the timestamp for you, and builds any necessary template you may need.  I don't see how that's useless.  *shrug*06:32
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thesaltydogok, sorry. I just prefer to do it myself.06:33
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JohnnyMastthierry whats you msn name ? i dont see you06:41
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dholbachcrimsun, slomo_, siretart, anybodyinterestedinmediastuff: meeting now?07:01
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siretartdholbach: yepp07:02
siretartdholbach: err07:03
siretartdholbach: didn't we say 1900 UTC?07:03
dholbachutc, ok ok:)07:03
siretartuuuh, MOTU Meeting today, too?07:04
siretartI must have missed the announcement :)07:04
dholbachi didnt schedule it :)07:04
LaserJockok, so is there a MOTU Meeting today or not?07:06
dholbachyes07:06
LaserJock19:00 UTC?07:06
dholbach2007:06
ograsiretart, you announced a MOTUMeeting07:06
dholbachogra: no, he announced a media meeting07:06
LaserJockhmm, fridge says 19:00 UTC07:06
ograin your subject line;)07:06
ogradholbach, yes in his text ...07:07
dholbach"Our next MOTU Meeting is scheduled for Saturday, 05. November, 21:40 UTC."07:07
dholbachROCK07:07
dholbachcome again next year07:07
ograheh07:07
siretartogra: did I had a typo? I only wanted to announce the MOTUMedia meeting07:07
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ograi think the subject said MOTUMeeting07:08
siretartoh darn, I wrote MOTUMeeting in the subject line07:08
ograand the content MEDIAMeeting :)07:08
ograor similar07:08
dholbachso let's agree on a NEW date and time for the motumeeting07:08
siretartwell, all members of MOTUMedia are MOTUs, so it isn't that much of difference, isn't it? ;)07:08
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting is open for new points07:08
ogradholbach, NEW ?07:08
ogradholbach, so we need elmo approval ?07:08
dholbachogra: there was no time fixed officially07:09
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ograkidding here ... ignore me :)07:09
siretartogra: well, sorry for the confusing subject. I should have made a note07:09
ogrammmm, passion .... fruit07:09
siretartdholbach: do we have open points for a MOTU Meeting?07:10
dholbachnot really07:10
dholbachi just blanked the agenda07:10
siretartI mean, we can discuss general motu stuff afterwards07:10
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siretarthehe07:10
dholbachwe should have a proper motu meeting07:10
dholbachannounce it 2 weeks before on our mailing list07:10
dholbachinvite people to add stuff on the agenda, ...07:11
ograas always07:11
siretarthehe07:11
ogra:)07:11
dholbachyeah, but funkier and bigger this time07:11
dholbachgreater, bigger and better07:11
dholbachyou know... :)07:11
ograas always07:11
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ograas always07:12
ogra:)07:12
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dholbachGRRRRRRRR07:12
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ograevil :)07:12
LaserJockok, so we are not going to have a formal MOTU meeting today?07:13
ogranope07:13
dholbachogra: don't ridicule the motu flash factor, i mean it :)07:13
ogradholbach, be careful, i have pics of you .... dancing ....07:14
ogra;)07:14
dholbachpost them online ;)07:14
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LaserJockhmm, that would be a good fridge.u.c07:14
dholbachogra: if you take pictures from weird angles, i will always look stupid/weird :)07:14
ograhehe07:15
LaserJockhmm, if you take pictures of me from any angle I will look stupid/weird ;-)07:15
siretartdoes anyone use 2.6.15 with madwifi?07:15
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ogra;)07:16
LaserJocklol07:16
ograi just smell weird07:16
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\shogra: you don't have a abdominal influenza...so you can't smell weired07:20
ogra\sh, you smoke way to much to judge about that :)07:21
LaserJock\sh: still sick ay?07:21
\shsiretart: will test it with flight-2 on sunday07:21
siretart\sh: aaah good idea07:21
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\shLaserJock: yeah..well..fever goes up and down...and now it looks like something is really wrong with my stomach...07:22
LaserJock\sh: man, that is terrible. I usually get sick around Christmas, last year really bad. It always makes the holiday season nice :(07:23
\shLaserJock: after this..I think i'm "ticking" normal again....this illness was somehow overdue07:24
LaserJockI get to see my family 1 time a year and I end up throwing up the whole time07:24
LaserJock\sh: yeah, I seem to do that to. I will go for a couple years without having to much and BAM!, it hits me07:25
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kos_tomhi07:31
kos_tomsiretart: hi07:32
kos_tomsiretart: i'm currently uploading gcompris 7.2 to revu.07:32
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siretartkos_tom: cool!07:33
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sistpotyhi folks07:57
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raphinkhi sistpoty08:04
sistpotyhi raphink08:04
raphink:)08:04
raphinkwould you have time to review some package of mine?08:04
sistpotyraphink: not right now, as there is motumediameeting in ubuntu-meeting... maybe later08:05
raphinkyes I just saw that08:05
sistpotyhehe08:05
ajmitchmorning all, what's up in MOTU land?08:12
ajmitchsince we don't have a MOTU meeting  or anything ;)08:13
sistpotyhehe08:13
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LaserJockajmitch: Linus's opinion of Gnome?08:28
kos_tomlucas: hi.08:29
lucashi all & kos_tom08:31
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JohnnyMastsup hackers08:32
ajmitchLaserJock: yeah, pointless to try & stir that up again08:33
LaserJockajmitch: I agree, kinda weird.08:35
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hervehello08:37
ajmitchhey herve08:42
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JohnnyMasthi Jimbob_ welcome08:52
Jimbob_Hi JohnnyMast08:52
Jimbob_I'm actually jcape, just had a power hiccup08:52
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JohnnyMasti know you are08:54
JohnnyMast* Jimbob_ (i=jcape@ <--08:54
jcapeOk08:55
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dholbachwe're having a QUICK motu meeting atm09:10
dholbachcurrent topic: REVU09:10
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ajmitchdholbach: sigh09:10
dholbachajmitch: *sigh back*09:11
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crimsunLaserJock: bookmarked, will look tonight.09:29
LaserJockthanks09:29
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ajmitchhey magnon_ :)09:32
magnon_I feel so... free, but at the same time naked09:33
magnon_hey :)09:33
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\shgood night..but I think I'm coming back later this night09:40
JohnnyMastowwkey ??09:50
ajmitchbzr is great..09:50
JohnnyMastwhy am i unsubscibed from the reviewers mailing ?09:50
ajmitchupdating to 0.1.5, bzr branch ../f-spot-0.1.4/debian/09:50
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JohnnyMast:/09:53
ajmitchusually it's because of bouncing mail09:53
Tonio_hi all09:54
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ajmitchJohnnyMast: don't worry...09:55
ajmitchFrom: motu-reviewers-bounces@tauware.de09:55
ajmitchTo: universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com09:55
ajmitchit's the bug list being unsubscribed09:55
siretartdholbach: I just unsubscribed universe-bugs@ from motu-reviewers@tauware.de09:57
dholbachok09:58
siretartdholbach: you shouldn't get annoying mails anymore09:58
dholbachsuper09:58
lucasI have a few merges waiting related to ruby packages10:06
lucascould somebody take a look at them ? I'd like to do others, but don't want to start working on them before I'm sure I'm doing everything right10:06
dholbachslomo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Media10:06
slomo_dholbach: thanks :) but i'll go to bed now...10:08
slomo_gn8 everybody :)10:08
crimsun'night10:08
dholbachslomo_: righto, good night :)10:09
sistpotygn8 slomo_:10:10
ajmitchlucas: email \sh about them10:12
ajmitchhe's offered to handle a bit of reviewing for the next week or so10:13
lucasok I will10:13
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LaserJockajmitch: is there a place to look at the revu2 code?10:18
sistpotyLaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi10:20
sistpoty(hopefully there is a link to public svn in there)10:20
LaserJocksistpoty: thanks10:20
sistpotyLaserJock: svn is here: http://tiber.tauware.de/svn/revu2/10:21
hervegood night10:21
LaserJocksistpoty: thanks again10:22
sistpotynp10:22
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LaserJockhi Kyral10:26
kos_tomsiretart: I thought that I was supposed to receive an e-mail with my password on Revu after my first upload. I still didn't receive an e-mail, while my upload is available on the Revu website. Is it the expected behaviour ?10:28
lucaskos_tom: try to log in10:30
lucaswith a random pw10:30
LaserJockkos_tom: I think you need to do the password recovery on the revu site10:30
lucasthen ask for a lost password10:30
siretartkos_tom: yes. revu currently doesn't send any emails at all10:30
siretartkos_tom: use the recover link to learn your password. use as login the email adress you put in the changes file10:30
kos_tomok, works10:31
kos_tomthanks !10:31
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raphinkdholbach: would you have some time to approve a small diff on a package you already advocated ?10:33
dholbachthe link is?10:33
raphinkhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=110210:33
raphinkhopefully the file will appear in a very short time10:34
raphinkgree10:34
raphinkgrr slow system ;)10:34
dholbachsure, you don'T have to ask for a new "ack"10:34
dholbachit's ok :)10:34
raphinkreally?10:34
raphinkI thought so10:34
dholbachyeah10:34
raphinkyou mean if it's been aproved twice it works, even if not the same version?10:35
raphinksounds strange to me10:35
raphinkok it's up : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=110210:35
raphinkjust moved bash executables from /usr/bin to /usr/sbin where they should be ;)10:36
LaserJockThe advocate counter get's reset at each upload10:36
raphinkyes10:36
siretartcould anyone please have a short look at my summary to the media team meeting?10:36
siretarthttp://paste.debian.net/323610:36
raphinkso it has to be advocated agagin10:36
raphinkagain10:36
dholbachit's just, if A gives you a vote, B gives you a vote on another upload and the diff is tiny, then you don't need to run around for weeks to find another motu give an ok :)10:36
siretartif I havn't missed an important point, i'd like to send it as is10:37
raphinkoh ok dholbach :)10:37
raphinktaht's why I ask10:37
sistpotydholbach: did you upload it already?10:37
raphinksiretart: could you have a look at it, too?10:37
dholbachwe're maybe picky and anal, but we're not stupid :)10:37
raphinkI know that dholbach, of course ;)10:38
siretartraphink: later, I'll have to write the minutes of the motu meeting now10:38
siretartsorry10:38
raphinkdholbach: why would I want to become a MOTU, if I thought they were stupid people ? ;)10:38
raphinksiretart: np10:38
dholbachsiretart: looks great10:38
dholbachsistpoty: you had a look too? :)10:38
siretartdholbach: shall I include ubuntu-devel-announce, too?10:39
sistpotydholbach: not yet... but in case you uploaded it, I would have said that it would have been kind to leave a comment10:39
dholbachraphink: i added a smiley ;)10:39
dholbachsiretart: sure10:40
siretartok10:40
sistpotynext sentence will be with future perfect *g*10:40
raphinkdholbach: ?10:40
sistpotysiretart: looks good10:41
dholbachsistpoty: didn't upload yet10:41
raphinkdholbach: ok my changes are wrong10:41
raphinkdholbach: I'll change again10:41
raphinkLOL10:41
sistpotyraphink: ok, then I'll wait for your next upload ;)10:42
raphinkok won't be long sistpoty :)10:42
raphinksistpoty: if you want to review my package, I have about 10 waiting on REVU10:42
sistpotys/wait/work on revu mails/10:42
sistpotyraphink: I'll really want to have revu1 send mails as top prio atm... but once this is done, I guess I'll test that feature10:43
raphinkok10:43
raphinkhaha10:44
raphinkdholbach: you'll have to advoated again10:44
raphink /usr/sbin doesn't look good actually ;)10:44
JohnnyMastdholbach available to review the changes i made in my revu after you comemnted my ttb package ?10:45
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dholbachJohnnyMast: i'll gladly do so, which one is it?10:45
dholbachhey de10:45
dholbachhey desrt10:45
desrthello. :)10:45
JohnnyMastlet me link you10:45
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desrtdholbach; do you know who handles ghc for ubuntu?10:45
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JohnnyMasthttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=118210:46
magnondesrt!10:46
dholbachdesrt: did you read the ubuntu desktop news?!10:46
desrtmagnon; 'sup?10:46
desrtdholbach; i did.10:46
magnondesrt: I cut my hair10:46
desrtmagnon; uh oh.10:46
dholbachdesrt: ghc - sistpoty?10:46
desrtmagnon; got pics?10:46
JohnnyMastit includes a patch now witch you talked about10:46
sistpotydesrt: ghc as in ghc6?10:46
desrtsistpoty; yes.10:46
sistpotydesrt: I did some work on it, why?10:46
desrtsistpoty; do you know why it builds with gcc-3.3?10:46
desrtmagnon; interesting cuty10:47
desrt*cut10:47
desrtwhy did you do it?10:47
sistpotydesrt: it shouldn't... actually the one in dapper should build with gcc410:47
raphinksistpoty, dholbach : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=118410:47
desrtweird.10:47
desrtbrb.10:47
sistpotydesrt: do you mean haskell stuff built with ghc6 or buildlogs of ghc6?10:47
ajmitchhey desrt10:48
dholbachJohnnyMast: python-dev (>=2.2) is not needed in the depends - did you have a look at the package's dependencies, after it was built? ${python:Depends} will have been substituted by the appropriate python version10:49
dholbachJohnnyMast: i doubt you need debian/control.save in the debian/ dir ;-)10:49
desrtajmitch; hello.10:49
JohnnyMastlol yeah10:49
desrtsistpoty; i mean if i look at the source package for ghc6 (in breezy, admittedly) it builds with gcc-3.310:50
dholbachJohnnyMast: why the patch to setup.py? is it wrong the way it is?10:50
desrtmagnon; so make with the info.  why did you do it? :)10:50
dholbachJohnnyMast: i didnt see the obvious breakage10:50
magnondesrt: six years since last it was short10:50
sistpotydesrt: the breezy package didn't work with gcc-4 yet... only a quite unstable cvs-version did, and so decision was made to go with gcc-3.310:50
desrtahh.  right10:51
desrt6.4.1 wasn't out yet10:51
desrti remember now :)10:51
magnonfeels kinda good10:51
desrthmm10:51
Tonio_hi10:51
JohnnyMasthow do you mean breakage ?10:51
Tonio_little question10:51
dholbachyou tried to fix something with the patch, no?10:51
dholbachi mean, what was broken before?10:51
Tonio_if you had to rename a file in the tarball, how would you proceed ?10:51
desrtsistpoty; just building 641 here and was wondering if there was something i should know about :)10:51
Tonio_a patch ?10:51
dholbachraphink: now i understand, when i clicked on "debdiff" it just had the debhelper change, which was obviously fine with me :)10:51
magnonanyway, beer awaits10:51
dholbachTonio_: use a debdiff10:52
magnonbye!10:52
desrtmagnon; cheers10:52
JohnnyMastdholbach yes10:52
Tonio_dholbach: okay ;)10:52
JohnnyMaston python-glade210:52
dholbachTonio_: you could move it in debian/rules too10:52
raphinkdholbach: ;)10:52
dholbachTonio_: depends how long lasting this change will be10:52
dholbachJohnnyMast: the patch is a bit longer, no?10:53
dholbachJohnnyMast: on setup.py?10:53
dholbachraphink: are you happy with the current version? i'll give it another quick glance now10:53
JohnnyMastyes i cut out everything that was not needed10:53
raphinkyes I'm happy with it dholbach10:53
JohnnyMasteverything was in control10:53
raphinkdholbach: sorry for the sbin stuff10:53
JohnnyMastso i did remove the checks10:53
sistpotydesrt: have fun... will take quite some time to build it... (~6 hours on my slow system)10:53
desrtsistpoty; i know.  i'm ghc upstream :p10:54
sistpotydesrt: ah, good to know... then I can bug you with problems :)10:54
desrtsistpoty; ya.  definitely.10:54
desrtsistpoty; i only maintain powerpc/linux port but any questions with that are more than welcome10:55
Tonio_dholbach: a few kB only ;)10:55
dholbachTonio_: how long it will last and everything :)10:55
dholbachif the file differs with the next upstream release, you will have to work on the patch again :)10:55
Tonio_dholbach: depends if the upstream will accept the change or not ;)10:55
Tonio_in fact there is a .sh file in /usr/bin10:56
dholbachyeah :)10:56
Tonio_I've been told by siretart that it was crappy10:56
dholbachah10:56
dholbachmaybe move it10:56
JohnnyMastdholbach enlighten me when you find more. i fixed those two things you stated10:56
Tonio_and that causes a bug in lintian, who is unable to find the man10:56
JohnnyMastready for source build but if you find more10:56
Tonio_so I'm patching the complete source and renaming the file, then package and send the patch to upstream authors10:57
Tonio_and make a pray for the patch to be added to the next version ^^10:57
dholbachraphink: an upload with orig.tar.gz please? :)11:00
raphinkhow come there's no orig.tar.gz ?11:01
raphinkit's there in my folder though11:01
dholbachdebuild -S ... dput ? :)11:01
dholbachinstead of deuibld -S -sa?11:01
raphinkhmm11:01
raphinkhehe11:01
raphinklearning a lot today ;)11:02
raphinkuploaded again11:02
raphinkwaiting for it to appear11:02
LaserJockraphink: did you use dput -f ?11:03
LaserJockI always forget that11:03
raphinkI had not used -sa in debuild11:03
raphinkand I never use dput -f11:03
thierryif I'm packaging a librairing named fox, should I call the package libfox or fox?11:03
raphinkwhat does it do?11:03
thierrylibrairy*11:03
LaserJockit forces dput to reupload11:04
raphinkLaserJock: I remove the .upload usually11:04
raphinkI guess -f is easier11:04
LaserJockeither way ;-)11:04
raphinkorig uploaded dholbach  :)11:06
dholbachrock11:06
raphinkhaha11:06
raphinksorry for all this11:07
raphinkI hesitate asking you to review another package now ;)11:07
raphinkhehe11:07
Tonio_raphink: have you been able to test briquolo ?11:07
raphinkhmm not yet Tonio_11:08
Tonio_okay ;)11:08
raphinkI'll try it now11:08
Tonio_thanks ;)11:08
thierryand how can I find a package for this error : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext11:09
crimsunlibxext-dev11:09
tsengsounds like libx11ext11:09
tsengor that11:09
JohnnyMastdholbach changes uploaded11:09
raphinkdholbach: fine to you?11:12
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dholbachboth packages are not updated on the package yet, are they?11:12
raphinkthey are dholbach11:13
raphinkmine is11:13
dholbachJohnnyMast: i don't see the sense in most changes in the patch11:14
ajmitchI feel like uploading a new f-spot11:15
JohnnyMastdholbach, the problem was. The package depends on python-glade211:15
ajmitchbut I haven't tested it at all11:15
JohnnyMastso its nicely added to the package11:15
dholbachyeah and that's fine, but you change a lot of other stuff11:16
JohnnyMastyes correct11:16
raphinkdholbach: you don't see it uploaded ?11:16
dholbachand it's better to change one obvious thing per patch :)11:16
dholbachraphink: now i see it, thanks11:16
raphinkok :)11:16
JohnnyMastthere was no need for the checks since the control manages that now and upstream is aware of getting rid of unused resources11:16
JohnnyMastor un needed11:16
dholbachi'm not talking about the checks11:16
dholbachbut about comments and ordering of imports11:17
dholbachsorry to be so picky :)11:17
dholbachthe patch is not really clear about what it does11:17
JohnnyMastwell whats the problem in that ? since the patch is a recode of what was there11:17
dholbachyou name a patch like    debian/patches/01_change_glade_tests.patch11:18
dholbachand then you do exactly this in the patch11:18
dholbachso everybody has a full understanding of what goes on11:18
JohnnyMastwell dholbach the reason why it fails in debuild / pbuilder is also vague :/11:18
JohnnyMastok11:18
JohnnyMastlet me do that11:18
JohnnyMastmore points ?11:18
dholbachwhat happens, if upstream changes stuff in the next upstream release11:18
dholbachdo you want to have to change each of the tiny bits or just the relevant stuff each time? :)11:19
JohnnyMastthat doesnt change anything11:19
JohnnyMastonly maybe the deps11:19
JohnnyMastand ofcource the code11:19
JohnnyMastif you study the new setup.py it only installs nothing more11:19
JohnnyMastand yes if there are big changes that have to be done to the setup as well. i have to patch it again11:20
dholbachlet somebody else review the patch, maybe i just don't get it11:20
siretartsistpoty: I see you just commited r109, is this all and can I apply to /srv/revu1?11:20
dholbachbut changing comments and ordering of module imports are not necessary11:20
dholbachkeep the diff small11:20
sistpotyerm.. not all yet siretart11:20
dholbachapart from that it looks good11:20
sistpoty-> query11:21
dholbachraphink: i'll upload it :)11:21
raphinkthanks dholbach11:21
JohnnyMastthanks, so you want me to change the name of the patch and also the content to litle changes ?11:21
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dholbachJohnnyMast: maybe you want to get other opinions on that, if you think you're right11:21
desrtsistpoty; do you do issue tracking for ubuntu's ghc6?11:21
JohnnyMastany reviewers want to review ttb on revu for a quick bit ?11:22
raphinkdholbach: coudl you have a look at knmap (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1171) or kyamo (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1105) too ?11:22
raphinkI can do that JohnnyMast11:22
sistpotydesrt: what do you mean with issue tracking?11:22
dholbachraphink: not tonight, sorry - please send me a mail and i'll have a look tomorrow11:22
desrtsistpoty; bug reports11:22
raphinkdholbach: sure11:22
dholbachcool11:23
sistpotydesrt: once we get some... but currently I haven't heard of a bug report yet11:23
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desrtit's going into upstream and will be in 6.4.2... but it should go in ubuntu too if 6.4.2 isn't released (which it probably won't be)11:23
sistpotydesrt: that's good... you could either throw it to malone, or what would be even cooler is to get this to debian BTS (since it's basically the debian/unstable package, with a one line change)11:24
desrtcool.  i know igloo.  he's a cool guy :)11:24
desrtigloo?  cool?  he he he11:24
sistpotyhehe11:24
sistpotyanybody wanting to add comments to revu... be aware that it might break :)11:25
raphinksistpoty: what do you mean?11:26
raphinkit's reaching the maximum comments limit ?11:26
raphink;)11:27
raphinkJohnnyMast: can you give me the link pls?11:27
sistpotyraphink: as in "first commit that enables mail on comments (which is totally untested)11:27
JohnnyMasthttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=118911:27
raphinkoh great sistpoty :)11:27
raphinklooking forward to this11:27
raphinkooo11:28
raphinkpython11:28
ajmitchsistpoty: you have it mailing out yet?11:29
sistpotyajmitch: it should, I'll test now11:29
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raphinkwhat do I do if the .changes of a package doesn't exist on the server ? ;)11:29
raphinkhehe11:29
sistpotywell, it doesn't exactly mail yet. but gives funny messages11:29
raphinkon REVU I mean11:29
raphink;)11:30
raphinkit'll be hard to review11:30
sistpotyraphink: the .changes are for uploading only11:30
raphinksistpoty: I use it with dpkg-source -x11:30
sistpotyraphink: a sourcepackage consists of dsc, which defines what other files belong to it11:30
raphinkunless I don't need it11:30
raphinkoh no I need diff actually11:31
raphinkbut it's not there11:31
sistpotyraphink: dpkg-source -x foobar.dsc will work as well11:31
raphinkno it's missing orig11:31
raphinkthat's why11:31
raphinkhehe11:31
raphinkI'm a bit tired and used to getting the 3 first files in the list11:31
raphinklol11:31
raphinkJohnnyMast: you miss the orig.tar.gz11:31
raphinkJohnnyMast: did you run debuild -S -sa  ?11:31
JohnnyMastraphink ?? kidding ?11:32
raphinknope I'm not kidding11:32
JohnnyMasthold on11:32
JohnnyMastholy cow11:32
JohnnyMastno11:33
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raphinklol11:33
JohnnyMastdpkg -buildpackage -S -sa -k<key>11:33
raphinkmhm11:33
sistpotyok, revu comments are fixed11:35
JohnnyMastraphink fix uploaded11:35
raphinkok11:35
raphinklet's wait11:35
raphink;)11:35
JohnnyMastyep11:37
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raphinkthank you JohnnyMast11:37
JohnnyMast:)11:37
ajmitchsistpoty:11:39
ajmitchTo: motu-reviewers@tauware.de11:39
ajmitchFrom: www-data <www-data@tiber.tauware.de>11:39
ajmitchplease change the from address ;)11:39
siretartah. hm11:39
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siretartajmitch: we are using /usr/bin/mail for sending emails11:39
ajmitchsiretart: yep11:39
sistpotyajmitch: I need to change some details first... seems like I got sql wrong11:39
ajmitchand I don't know why you are doing so11:40
ajmitchwhen python has some nice simple smtplib11:40
JohnnyMastraphink http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=119011:40
raphinkyeah saw it11:40
sistpotyajmitch: because it's a nasty little hack ;)11:41
JohnnyMasti kept on pressing F5 :p11:41
raphinkhehe11:41
ajmitchI guessed that :)11:41
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raphinkbefore I review it JohnnyMast you'll have to explain me why you switched from 0ubuntu1 to 1ubuntu1 ?11:42
raphink;)11:42
JohnnyMastbecause i was stupid and uploaded 1ubuntu111:43
JohnnyMastgrr11:43
JohnnyMasthehe11:43
raphinkok I'll review it this way11:43
JohnnyMastno11:43
JohnnyMastits no update11:43
raphinkplease revert to 0ubuntu1  and I'll check the diff11:43
JohnnyMastmore a downgrade11:43
raphinkhuh?11:43
JohnnyMast1ubuntu1  is verry old beside the versoning is wrong11:44
raphinkvery old ??11:44
JohnnyMastbut i still had that changes file until ajmitch told to change to 0ubuntu111:44
JohnnyMast^^11:44
raphinkyou mean you just sent an old version of the package ? ;)11:44
raphinkoh ic11:44
JohnnyMastyes11:44
raphinkwell I'll wait again then11:44
JohnnyMastsorry11:45
raphinkcd ttb && rm -rf ./*11:45
raphinkwhile{no new version of ttb on REVU} do wait; done11:45
raphink;)11:45
raphinkis it me or LP changed ?11:46
JohnnyMastLP ?11:47
raphinklaunchpad11:47
JohnnyMastmine ?11:47
JohnnyMastwhy ?11:47
JohnnyMastew misread11:47
raphinkno I said that LP has changed11:47
raphinkit doesn't look the same11:47
raphinknm11:47
JohnnyMastyeah its changed11:48
JohnnyMastsince a few days this is the new look11:48
JohnnyMastthe boxes you mean ?11:48
raphinkyes11:48
JohnnyMastuhu11:49
JohnnyMasti dont get what changed11:49
JohnnyMastthen new upload11:49
JohnnyMasthas also no orig.tar.gz11:49
raphinkhuhu11:49
raphink:)11:50
JohnnyMasti dont see why11:52
JohnnyMastrave@ubuntu:~/ttb-0.9.4/ttb-0.9.4$ sudo dpkg-buildpackage -S -as -k84A62F8D11:52
raphinksa11:53
JohnnyMastin the end11:53
JohnnyMastdpkg-buildpackage: source only, diff-only upload (original source NOT included11:53
siretartajmitch: I think I got it now11:53
raphinknot as11:53
JohnnyMastoooh11:53
raphink-sa11:53
siretartajmitch: I added the -f option to the sendmail call11:53
ajmitchsiretart: great11:53
ajmitchnow I have to tweak procmail11:53
JohnnyMastbingo !11:53
JohnnyMastdpkg-buildpackage: source only upload (original source is included)11:53
siretartajmitch: which email should I set?11:53
raphinkheh ;)11:53
siretartI don't feel comfortable in putting my own email there ;)11:54
JohnnyMastuploaded ...11:54
ajmitchsiretart: an alias on tiber, maybe revu@11:54
ajmitchor just the motu-reviewers list11:54
siretartajmitch: I hope that won't confuse mailman, but I'll try11:55
ajmitchit shouldn't11:55
sistpotyraphink: just ignore my comment on konq-kim11:55
raphinksistpoty: what do you mean?11:55
sistpotyraphink: I just test-commented once more11:55
raphinkyes probably spam11:56
raphinkgot it11:56
JohnnyMastits complete now raphink11:56
raphinktoo bad, I would ahve liked it if you had advocated though sistpoty ;)11:56
raphinkJohnnyMast: ok I'll have a look11:56
raphinkcomplete and up-to-date ? ;)11:56
sistpotyraphink: I'll test advocate later ;)11:56
raphinkhehe ok11:56
siretartajmitch: http://tauware.de/pipermail/motu-reviewers/2005-December/000098.html this one looks even nicer :)11:56
ajmitchsiretart: looks good11:57
JohnnyMastraphink yes11:57
raphinksistpoty: when emails are sent, there could be nice messages when packages are approved11:57
raphinklike11:57
raphink`Congratulations, your package was approved! Thanks for your contribution'11:57
raphinkthat'll boost packagers ;)11:58
raphinkhehe11:58
JohnnyMastyes it will, good idea raphink11:58
siretartsistpoty: are you still editing scripts/Comments.py?11:58
sistpotyhm... maybe for revu2 ;)11:58
siretartor can I commit?11:58
sistpotysiretart: no11:58
sistpotysiretart: it looks good now... you can commit11:58
ajmitchsiretart: they appear to come from your address now, or did you change it since?11:59
siretartajmitch: http://tauware.de/pipermail/motu-reviewers/2005-December/000098.html11:59
sistpotyhm... I could take a look at smtplib. if it's easy I'll change it11:59
siretartthat mail seems to come from the mailing list itself. the 2 former tests looked like they came from me12:00
ajmitchyep12:00
ajmitchok, I'll bbl12:00
siretartajmitch: if you want to hack, have a look at /src/revu1/scripts/Comments.py12:00
siretart;)12:00
ajmitchgood work on revu :)12:00
ajmitchsiretart: maybe later, I  have to head out now12:00
siretartajmitch: have fun!12:00
siretartand good work to sistpoty!12:00
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sistpotythx12:01
siretarthad actually to adapt the exim config to make www-data 'trusted'.. oh well12:01
sistpotysiretart: smtplib is too easy...12:01
siretartyeah?12:01
sistpotysiretart: yes... I'll do a quick fix12:02
siretartsiretart: does it allow to set the -f flag to sendmail and specify the envelope from?12:02

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