| troy | gustavor: literally, the only difference is which apps are on the install disk -- once it's installed, it's a normal ubuntu system | 12:40 |
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| uid | hello | 12:51 |
| uid | anyone here? | 12:51 |
| troy | I'm here | 01:35 |
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| Kuyaedz | can someone point me to some docs/wiki on using a ubuntu-server as the central machine for a windows home LAN? | 02:27 |
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| Nafallo | troy: agreed | 02:38 |
| Nafallo | but then, that depends what the central server should have done :-P | 02:38 |
| troy | probably file and print, I'm assuming | 02:38 |
| Nafallo | could aswell have been routing involved aswell :-) | 02:39 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 02:39 |
| Nafallo | scratch one "aswell" ;-) | 02:39 |
| troy | :) | 02:39 |
| troy | I hate doing routing on multi-nic machines - maybe it's better in modern kernels, but it used to stink | 02:41 |
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| Nafallo | I do that. 2 nics :-). | 02:43 |
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| shtylman | can anyone here give any advice on how to set up a homeserver...I have ubuntu on the server already and am looking to buy two more harddrives and put them in raid 1 | 04:02 |
| shtylman | then question is what should I do with the hd that I have in the server right now? | 04:02 |
| shtylman | can I just run the server from that hd and create symbolic links to the raid storage drives | 04:02 |
| shtylman | would that be a viable alternative | 04:02 |
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| nictuku | hi. Official support of DB2 was a great step. any other big RDBMS support coming? =] | 04:05 |
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| fabbione | hi everybody | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | hi fabbione | 06:02 |
| fabbione | hmm lot LP requests.. | 06:06 |
| fabbione | will process them this evening or tomorrow | 06:06 |
| fabbione | i am out for a talk all day | 06:06 |
| polvi | hey, i heard rumors that ubuntu was working on a rhn equivent product... anyone heard of this? | 06:07 |
| fabbione | polvi: i think you heard wrong | 06:07 |
| polvi | equivalent* | 06:07 |
| polvi | fabbione: ah ok | 06:08 |
| polvi | thats too bad - there really is no good host management app | 06:10 |
| fabbione | polvi: hold on.. by RHN i understood the pay service they offer for security | 06:10 |
| fabbione | and upgrades | 06:10 |
| fabbione | if you mean just the "applet" to do upgrades | 06:10 |
| fabbione | there is already | 06:11 |
| polvi | yeah, upgrades and security... but they also do stuff like deploying configs | 06:11 |
| polvi | and a place to add information about the hosts | 06:11 |
| fabbione | we have all of that already | 06:11 |
| fabbione | info on the host is hwdb.ubuntu.com | 06:11 |
| fabbione | updates and security is there | 06:11 |
| fabbione | if you need to clone machines there is the equivalent of their kickstart for Ubuntu | 06:12 |
| polvi | hmm, like, a place where I can look at my entire infrastructure from the web, see which ones are not updated -- what updates are needed -- deploy updates if need be | 06:13 |
| fabbione | not at that level.. no | 06:13 |
| fabbione | it's a good suggestion but not just -server related | 06:13 |
| fabbione | that's more global ubuntu | 06:13 |
| polvi | hmm | 06:13 |
| fabbione | you should consider posting the idea to ubuntu-devel mailing list | 06:13 |
| polvi | i would imagine this as an app someone would install within their infrastructure | 06:14 |
| fabbione | write down these ideas on the wiki | 06:14 |
| polvi | which? | 06:14 |
| fabbione | and add them as specs in launchpad | 06:14 |
| fabbione | wiki.ubuntu.com | 06:14 |
| fabbione | create a brand new spec | 06:14 |
| fabbione | post the link to ubuntu-devel | 06:15 |
| polvi | ok | 06:15 |
| fabbione | and seek for consensum | 06:15 |
| fabbione | that's the best way to get involved and push your ideas | 06:15 |
| polvi | consensum, should I use that word :P | 06:15 |
| polvi | ? | 06:15 |
| fabbione | it might work, it might not | 06:15 |
| fabbione | sure, if you want | 06:15 |
| polvi | heh | 06:15 |
| polvi | thanks for the pointer | 06:15 |
| polvi | fabbione: do you work for ubuntu? | 06:15 |
| fabbione | no problem | 06:15 |
| fabbione | yes | 06:15 |
| polvi | how many -server folks are there? | 06:15 |
| fabbione | me and another guy | 06:16 |
| polvi | sweet | 06:16 |
| fabbione | plus other random people that do other bits | 06:16 |
| fabbione | like the kernel and so on | 06:16 |
| polvi | do you physically work together? or is it all remote? | 06:16 |
| fabbione | all remote | 06:16 |
| polvi | cool | 06:17 |
| polvi | i think this -server stuff is great | 06:17 |
| polvi | i really hope it is all successful | 06:17 |
| polvi | by register a new spec, does that mean create a new project? | 06:19 |
| fabbione | no | 06:19 |
| fabbione | it means creating a new spec :) | 06:19 |
| polvi | ah, finally found the line! | 06:22 |
| polvi | had to go ubuntu -> spec | 06:22 |
| polvi | any particular place in the wiki? | 06:24 |
| fabbione | polvi: not really.. just give it a sensible name :) | 06:24 |
| polvi | wiki.u.c/Blah ? | 06:24 |
| fabbione | yeah | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | and you can probably use SpecTemplate when creating the page | 06:25 |
| polvi | you guys are good | 06:28 |
| polvi | like a tag team | 06:28 |
| polvi | :D | 06:28 |
| polvi | ok, i will do this once i get back to the hotel | 06:31 |
| polvi | thanks for holding my hand finding the pages | 06:31 |
| polvi | :P | 06:31 |
| fabbione | no problem :) | 06:33 |
| fabbione | you are welcome | 06:33 |
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| polvi | fabbione: still there? | 08:16 |
| fabbione | yes | 08:16 |
| polvi | i would like a little feedback before i ship this off to ubuntu-devel: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/serverland | 08:17 |
| polvi | (if you have time) | 08:17 |
| fabbione | i don't now.. i will look at them tomorrow | 08:17 |
| polvi | ok | 08:17 |
| fabbione | i am flying out to another city in 20 minutes or so | 08:17 |
| polvi | no problem | 08:17 |
| fabbione | you can still ask feedback on -devel | 08:18 |
| fabbione | don't be afraid of that | 08:18 |
| polvi | ah ok | 08:18 |
| === polvi tough'ns up | ||
| fabbione | remember that you might not be the only one with these requests | 08:20 |
| fabbione | and asking more people for review will improve the use cases and details on the implementation | 08:20 |
| fabbione | you might have missed a detail or a corner case and so on | 08:20 |
| polvi | yeah | 08:20 |
| polvi | i hope so | 08:20 |
| fabbione | when we write specs, it's always a bunch of people that discuss and write | 08:21 |
| fabbione | never one alone.. | 08:21 |
| fabbione | also-- you might want to start CC ubuntu-server mailing list | 08:22 |
| fabbione | since we have one :) | 08:22 |
| polvi | start CC? | 08:22 |
| polvi | CC it when I send the email to -devel? | 08:23 |
| fabbione | CC = CarbonCopy :) | 08:23 |
| fabbione | yeps | 08:23 |
| fabbione | it will drag attention to the new mailing list | 08:23 |
| polvi | yeah, i know CC, just thought you meant subscribe to it or something | 08:23 |
| fabbione | and we will move there afterall since the spec is -server related | 08:23 |
| fabbione | well you need to be subscribed to post | 08:24 |
| fabbione | or wait for me to approve the message | 08:24 |
| polvi | fine fine | 08:24 |
| polvi | i will subscribe | 08:24 |
| polvi | :D | 08:24 |
| fabbione | both ways work for me :) | 08:24 |
| fabbione | it will just take longer | 08:24 |
| polvi | ok, subscribed to both | 08:25 |
| polvi | lets see how this goes... | 08:25 |
| fabbione | ok.. i am taking off | 08:25 |
| fabbione | later | 08:25 |
| polvi | bye, have a safe flight | 08:25 |
| fabbione | thanks, but i will have to rely on $cheapcompany pilots :) | 08:25 |
| polvi | heh | 08:25 |
| fabbione | my flight licence is expired :/ | 08:26 |
| polvi | bust | 08:26 |
| polvi | sounds like you need to get away from the computer more :) | 08:26 |
| fabbione | i have a wife out of this room.. it doesn't help .. really | 08:26 |
| fabbione | ;) | 08:26 |
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| Pygi | hi hi | 09:34 |
| Pygi | hehe, vijest je stavljena | 09:35 |
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| Pygi | ah, we got a new member? | 10:20 |
| ajmitch | hm? | 10:22 |
| ajmitch | ah, I was added | 10:23 |
| Pygi | new member in ubuntu server, team :) | 10:23 |
| Pygi | welcome to the team :) | 10:23 |
| ajmitch | probably because they know me :) | 10:23 |
| Pygi | hehe | 10:23 |
| Pygi | there are a lot people on the waiting list :P | 10:24 |
| ajmitch | yes, but I went to some of the server BOFs at UBZ | 10:24 |
| Pygi | hehe, I didn't say nothing because you were accepted into team ;) I am glad you are ;) | 10:25 |
| Pygi | just saying a lot of people wanna join us ;) | 10:25 |
| ajmitch | which is good | 10:26 |
| Pygi | yup | 10:26 |
| Pygi | now all we need to do is make the ubuntu server the best server platform ever ;) | 10:27 |
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| Zambba | I've installed the minimal install of Ubuntu. Now I've heard about the Ubuntu Server which has "server-orientated kernel". | 04:51 |
| Zambba | How can I install that kernel-image to my home server and what benefit do I get if i do so? | 04:51 |
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| spike | Zambba: I dont see any benefit atm | 05:17 |
| spike | Zambba: the real benefits will come once dapper (the next ubuntu version) is out | 05:19 |
| spike | Zambba: see the specs on the link in topic | 05:19 |
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| gentoome | I'm tryin to inst buntu on an old laptop but I only got 32mb ram | 07:33 |
| Nafallo | good luck, since it needs at least 64MB for the server :-P. | 07:35 |
| Nafallo | 128MB for the desktop. | 07:35 |
| gentoome | oh | 07:35 |
| Nafallo | atleast my official cd-covers says so :-) | 07:35 |
| gentoome | theres no boot parameter i can use? | 07:36 |
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| Nafallo | server, needs 64MB | 07:36 |
| gentoome | damn | 07:36 |
| gentoome | i need a small OS that uses gnome | 07:43 |
| gentoome | any suggestions? | 07:43 |
| Nafallo | well, since server needs 64, and the diffrence between server and desktop is gnome, I'm lead to belive there is a reason you need atleast 128MB named gnome :-P. | 07:45 |
| Nafallo | you might want to try xubuntu with XFCE4. and the correct channel for those questions are probably #ubuntu :-). | 07:46 |
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| gentoome | ok thanks | 07:47 |
| Nafallo | np | 07:47 |
| Pygi | please tell me what kernel is ;) | 07:48 |
| Pygi | or what is Linux? | 07:48 |
| Pygi | thank you ;) | 07:48 |
| Pygi | hehe ;) | 07:48 |
| Nafallo | ? | 07:48 |
| Pygi | hehe, why the question mark? | 07:49 |
| Nafallo | cause I don't understand what you mean ;-) | 07:49 |
| Pygi | ah, I asked you to explain me what is "Kernel" and what is "Linux" ;) | 07:50 |
| gentoome | ouch | 07:51 |
| Nafallo | maybe you should try #ubuntu with that question? | 07:52 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 07:52 |
| gentoome | lol ouch again | 07:52 |
| gentoome | google might help more | 07:52 |
| Pygi | hehe, I was just joking ;) | 07:53 |
| gentoome | oh ok | 07:53 |
| gentoome | scary | 07:53 |
| Pygi | hehe ;) | 07:53 |
| Nafallo | I know :-) | 07:53 |
| Pygi | Nafallo: I know you know :P | 07:53 |
| Nafallo | ah, I think we got a loop on our hands :-P | 07:54 |
| Pygi | heh | 07:54 |
| Pygi | what kind of loop? ;) | 07:54 |
| Nafallo | ehm, a knew-loop? :-) | 07:55 |
| Pygi | heh | 07:55 |
| Pygi | will do :) | 07:55 |
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| Pygi | welcome henrique | 07:55 |
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| Zambba | spike: OK thanks | 08:16 |
| spike | btw, what about the current devel version? | 08:16 |
| spike | devel link in topic doest work | 08:16 |
| spike | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/ correctly serves dapper alpha2, tho | 08:17 |
| ajmitch | morning | 08:24 |
| ajmitch | spike: try cdimage rather than cdimages | 08:25 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-server:ajmitch] : ubuntu-server discussions and support | for general support see #ubuntu | Ubuntu Server (stable) at http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/5.10/ | Ubuntu Server (Devel) at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ | Ubuntu Server dapper specs: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-server/+specs | Ubuntu Server forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=45 | ubuntu-server@lists.u.c is up and running | ||
| spike | ahahah | 08:26 |
| spike | too lame :) | 08:26 |
| spike | tnx | 08:26 |
| spike | I didnt really notice it, and I also got dapper flight-2 ... | 08:27 |
| spike | bah | 08:27 |
| Pygi | hello ajmitch | 08:28 |
| fabbione | hi guys | 08:29 |
| fabbione | ajmitch: topic diff? | 08:30 |
| Pygi | hi fabbione | 08:30 |
| fabbione | shawarma: i managed to get the beer on board.. thanks :) | 08:30 |
| ajmitch | fabbione: cdimages->cdimage | 08:32 |
| fabbione | oh right | 08:32 |
| fabbione | thanks | 08:33 |
| Pygi | hehe etcp ;) | 08:55 |
| shtylman | would it be safe to use dapper drake flight 2 as a server os | 08:57 |
| shtylman | for the house? | 08:57 |
| shtylman | temporarily | 08:57 |
| shtylman | or should I stick with 5.10 | 08:57 |
| Pygi | for house? | 08:57 |
| Pygi | yup | 08:57 |
| Pygi | but not for any system-critical jobs | 08:57 |
| shtylman | yea..I just want to set up a raided server at my house | 08:57 |
| shtylman | for like some backups | 08:57 |
| shtylman | and test base for websites | 08:57 |
| Pygi | heh, important backups? | 08:58 |
| fabbione | hmm no | 08:58 |
| fabbione | i wouldn't do that | 08:58 |
| fabbione | dapper is truely unstable | 08:58 |
| shtylman | i c | 08:58 |
| shtylman | well thats solves it | 08:58 |
| shtylman | ill stick to 5.10 | 08:58 |
| Pygi | he,look, fabbione awakened ;) | 08:58 |
| fabbione | i am not awake :) | 08:59 |
| Pygi | really? O, sorry then, I am halucinating ; | 08:59 |
| Pygi | ;) | 08:59 |
| fabbione | Pygi: it's 9pm here :) | 09:00 |
| Pygi | fabbione: same here :) | 09:00 |
| shawarma | fabbione: Excellent! | 09:03 |
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