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mlehreri found a web page that said to ask the #ubuntu bot about w32 codecs.  i found the package but am not sure how to get vlc or any other media player to recognize them12:00
rounei tried enable universe, it said : not a shell builtin12:00
k31th_sweet12:00
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/avidemux' returned no results.12:00
k31th_yh12:00
k31th_thanks12:00
KhisanthJared: and does about:plugins show the Java plugin?12:00
cafuegok31th_: I believer courier can do it all, but I prefer postfix for smtp12:00
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/avidemux' returned no results.12:00
k31th_cafuego: why?12:00
picassoeruin: pleasant, but doesn't work if there's a - in the song title?12:00
Jaredwhat do yo9u mean about:plugins12:01
rouneroune: .12:01
cafuegok31th_: I'm used to it, it's widely documented, and it works great. See rule #1. :-)12:01
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fluvvellAnybody familiar with Evolution mail know how to change the print out font size (print to paper)12:01
KhisanthJared: type about:plugins in the location bar and hit enter12:01
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eruinpicasso, that could be true ;/... there's always easytag if you need something with more power, but that's not quite as straightforward UI-wise12:02
Jarednope dosen't show it12:02
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rifficanyways i'm getting alsactl restore errors with dapper is this something that is expected?12:02
VictorIthere is no kdevelop in ubuntu?12:02
BenUrbanthere is12:02
cafuegoriffic: In somuch as dapper isn't stable and you should expect stuff to be broken, yes.12:02
picassoi need power!!12:02
rounehow do u type to someone? lol :D12:02
VictorIBenUrban: not in the repo12:03
rifficwell i was going to file a bug report12:03
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mjrVictorI, in universe12:03
picassoso easytag.. i'll try that also. but this is definitely better than manually id3v2 ...12:03
rifficbut I'm not sure if its been reported or now12:03
VictorImjr: its broken12:03
rifficnot12:03
Jaredit dosen't show up ...where can i get it12:03
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mjrVictorI, then don't say there isn't, say it's broken :] 12:03
cafuegoriffic: Look it up in launchpad12:03
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VictorI  kdevelop3: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installable12:03
cafuegoor bugzilla12:03
rifficokay.12:03
BenUrbanVictorI: you have to enable universe12:03
cafuegoVictorI: You using dapper or breezy?12:03
VictorIdapper12:04
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cafuegoyeah, dapper breaks. Wait until it's fixed, then try again.12:04
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cafuegoOr use breezy, if you need a stable, useable system.12:04
rhoffaaif someone could help me with this ftp problem im having it would really help, my xbox is useless unless i can get rid of this error on gftp12:04
rifficAdditional Comment #4 From Scott James Remnant  2005-12-05 15:28 UTC  [reply]  -------12:04
rifficLikely due to ALSA not being updated to new-world-order yet12:04
freakazoid3333im using brezzy and successfullyloaded kdvelop3 yesterday12:04
cafuegoYes, breezy works fine.12:05
rifficcafuego: you know anything about that?12:05
VictorIpossible to downgrade?12:05
Seveasriffic, that means: be patient, someone's working on it12:05
cafuegoMr Watson has no businmess egging users on to try dapper when they have no idea how to fix problems. *sigh*12:05
JaredRunescape wont work at all....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr12:05
rifficwhat is the new world order?12:05
rifficplease let me in on this12:05
Seveasriffic, the new device handling thing for Dapper12:05
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ompaulriffic, dapper complient12:06
cafuegoriffic: It's when Bush is put against the wall and gets shot.12:06
rifficoic12:06
riffichehe sounds like fun12:06
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VictorIbah well I am just going back to freebsd, seems more better suited for my needs.12:06
_RocHo/12:06
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freakazoid3333can i watch cafuego?12:06
roughtraderi have made and mounted an iso image of breezy dvd12:06
ompaulcafuego, no it is when he puts up other people against the wall and has the shot12:06
cafuegoVictorI: Like I said, use a STABLE release if you need stability.12:06
ompaulbut stop it already :-)12:06
KhisanthJared: which Java package did you install?12:06
rifficwhen i am king you will be first against the wall12:06
digitsHey guys, how do I configure the BitTorrent thingie? The port it's using is blocked by the tracker I use12:06
Jaredjdk12:06
cafuegoVictorI: Don't blame Ubuntu if YOU made a bad decision.12:07
roughtraderhow do I change the repository information to look for content in the mounted image rather than the DVD?12:07
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VictorII tend to like the newest packages, but have a stable base userland, with freebsd I am able to do that.12:07
cafuegodigits: In the prefs, change the port numebsr you want it to use12:07
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cafuegoVictorI: Newest and stable do not mix. Ever.12:07
aguazer0is vlc gtk2 issue fixed?12:07
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Nytryxmhz!12:07
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aguazer0or is there any "unofficial" package for ubuntu?12:08
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BenUrbanvlc can use gtk2?12:08
VictorIBenUrban: I have better things to do than compiling packages from scratch12:08
Nytryxok heres a question doe ubuntu open an ssh client by default12:08
BenUrbanVictorI: heh, true enough12:08
aguazer0BenUrban, in fact it must do it12:08
digitscafuego: umm, i'm using the one that comes with gnome, and i can't find a menu entry for it... and no menu when running it.12:08
BenUrbanNytryx: client? i think you mean server...12:08
Nytryxwhoops yeah server12:08
BenUrbanand the answer is no12:09
bnDcan anyone help me out? ive downloaded something from usenet, its split into 25 parts, is there an app or a method to rejoin these files other than join file1 file2 file3 file4 etc?12:09
BenUrbanor at least it should be12:09
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BenUrbanbnD: man cat12:09
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bnDBenUrban, k brb12:09
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Nytryxok so why when i installed edubuntu on my sons ibook i could ssh into it with out starting the server?12:09
rounehow do i get the universe thing?12:09
ompaulbnD, cat is the command you want12:09
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_RocHwhat cheatcode forces 5.10 for self MD5 test ?12:09
bnDah, and i thought it just printed contents to screen12:09
bnD:)12:09
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BenUrbanbnD: if you like that, you'll love dog12:10
BenUrban:P12:10
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bnDBenUrban, heh12:10
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ompaul!tell roune about repos12:10
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KhisanthJared: then you should have /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so12:10
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ompaulroughtrader, see the message from ubotu12:10
Nytryxround int the terminal type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:10
bnDBenUrban, im still going to have to specify all 25 files?12:10
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BenUrbanbnD: you can use a wildcard...12:10
Nytryxroune int the terminal type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:11
bnDand it will get them in the correct order?12:11
roughtraderi figured it out12:11
bnDits an mpeg :)12:11
BenUrbanbnD: probably not lol12:11
bnDhehe12:11
lammahhm vb cineva romaneste ?12:11
roughtraderfile:///media/yourisoimage.iso12:11
rounedone :D12:11
lisa_anybody know about the module "tun"12:11
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Nytryxok uncomment the lines that say "universe" at the end12:11
_RocHwhat cheatcode forces 5.10 for self MD5 test ?12:12
Nytryxuncomment = remover the #12:12
mlehrerok, the bottom line is: totem-xine > totem-gstreamer12:12
_RocHMD5sum12:12
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mlehrerwhy does gstreamer even exist, are 3 media players not enough, heh12:12
markriangstreamer is the most excellent in terms of architecture - it's used in the Nokia 770!12:13
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markrianAlong with GTK and other free software12:13
Kzar_frHi12:13
picassoeruin: still here?12:13
picassoeruin: you use easytag at all? heh, i know you said it was more complicated, and now i have a question.. :)12:13
_RocHxine is fastest , old crap compatible ..12:13
Kzar_frIs there any CAD software user here ?12:13
bnDBenUrban, gfslicer :)12:13
Nytryxlike autoCAD12:13
BenUrbanbnD: huh?12:14
Kzar_frNytryx, well, like an CAD software that could be used to map my future house :)12:14
Nytryxnope sorry12:14
markrianxine is the best media backend for linux at the moment, I agree12:14
cyphasei have the gaim-evolution plugin installed. why do some of my contacts in evolution have their gaim icon as their pic, but others don't?12:14
bnDBenUrban, made specifically for large file splitting ;)12:15
BenUrbanbnD: ah12:15
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Kzar_frmarkrian, does xine has support for QUicktime movies ?12:16
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_RocHhttp://xinehq.de/12:17
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Nytryxok question why when i did an installation of ubuntu onto my sons laptop can i ssh into it but i did an install of ubuntu on my desktop and i cant12:17
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redguynooen praising mplayer?12:17
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Nytryxoh and my sons laptop is an ibook running edubuntu12:17
dooglusNytryx: you installed the ssh server on both?12:17
bla|patrickneed a howto make flash working12:17
redguyso mplayer is crappy now?12:17
corresponderi praise mplayer!12:17
Snoopinatorhi all12:17
bla|patrick:(12:17
redguy!flash12:18
bla|patrickhi, i am back... full of problems12:18
markrianKzar_fr: yes, I believe it plays very old Quicktime files by itself, but it can load Windows dll files which allows it to play the most recent ones too12:18
BenUrbanNytryx: maybe edubuntu sets up an ssh server by default12:18
Nytryxdooglus i did'nt  do anything different12:18
bla|patrickfirst i thought it was an issue of that gpl project and now i installed the unfree macromedia player12:18
dooglusNytryx: if you didn't install openssh-server then you should12:18
Snoopinatorhas anyone tested pptpclient to mount vpn connection ?12:18
Nytryxok so install an ssh server12:18
bla|patrickbut still there is neither flash nor anything related to it12:18
bla|patrick:/12:18
Nytryxok thanks12:18
cyphaseI have the Gaim-Evolution plugin installed. Why do some of my contacts in Evolution have their IM icon as their picture, but others don't?12:18
Kzar_frmarkrian, oh thank's, and any .Deb with most recents dll's for xine ?12:18
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thegladiatorhi12:19
corresponderho12:19
dooglusNytryx: check on your son's machine - perhaps edubuntu installs sshd by default for admin purposes or some such12:19
thegladiatori cant see colors in my vi12:19
redguy!test12:19
thegladiatorwhy cud this be and what shud i do ?12:19
dooglusthegladiator: vi doesn't do colours.  get vim if you want colours12:19
BenUrbanthegladiator: maybe you're colorblind12:19
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats12:19
thegladiatori have vim12:19
ubotuPassed.12:19
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bla|patrick my flash plugin /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/libflashplayer.so <-- belongs this to macromedia flashplayer?12:20
Snoopinatorno idea for pptpclient ?12:20
thegladiatordooglus, i open it with vi and still no color12:20
thegladiatorvim*12:20
BenUrbanthegladiator: try vim12:20
BenUrbanah12:20
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thegladiatorstill nope12:20
fluvvellAnyone who might be real familiar with Evolution Mail on ubuntu know how to shrink the font size in the printing by paper output of emails?12:20
thegladiatorit used to work well in fc412:20
monkeymulletDoes Bluetooth work?12:21
thegladiatorit should work12:21
Snoopinatorit does with my phone12:21
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thegladiatorbluetooth i mean12:21
monkeymulletusing evolution?12:21
thegladiatorany vi experts around ?12:21
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Snoopinatori'm not using evolution12:22
thegladiatori cant do no coding !12:22
jdierI am just a desktop hack, Have a friend asking me about how apache runs on ubuntu?  Any thoughts, guidelines or suggestions?12:22
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markrianKzar_fr: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:22
Squee-DHow it runs?12:22
rounei edited the sorucelist, and did a apt-get update... but i still dont got the enable universe thing Oo12:22
monkeymulletwhat do you use your phone with?12:22
Snoopinatorwell the default bluetooth software given with the distro12:23
markrianKzar_fr: though be careful, that's for 5.04, hoary. If you have 5.10 breezy you need to make sure the configs say the right names12:23
fluvvellthegladiator, what happens if you load a file into gedit?  php source code comes up in colour on mine....12:23
Kzar_frmarkrian, thank's again12:23
markriannp12:23
Snoopinatorkbtobexclient12:23
thegladiatorlet me check12:23
Kzar_frmarkrian, configs ?12:23
monkeymulletthanks12:23
Kzar_frmarkrian, I'll check12:23
Snoopinator:)12:23
bshumatethegladiator: something be wrong with yer ~/.vimrc12:24
Squee-Dwhy would the 'starting up the partitioner' in ubuntu install be so incredibly slow?12:24
rounehey, how do u type to someone? :D i dont want to use the /msg thing12:24
Squee-DIs it because i have a Highpoint raid?12:24
rounewrite Oo12:24
thegladiatori see12:24
thegladiatorfluvvell, it works well with gedit though12:24
thegladiatornot vi12:24
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thegladiatorvim neither12:24
Snoopinatorcya all bye12:25
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markrianKzar_fr: basically in the section Adding Extra Repositories, where it says hoary, replace that with breezy (if you do indeed have breezy installed)12:25
bla|patrickweired...12:25
andy_hey every one12:25
bla|patrickin firefox flash works12:25
bla|patrickbut opera doesnt find it :(12:25
andy_what did you do...download the flash up date?12:26
Kzar_frmarkrian, Oh ok :)12:26
cowbudroune: you can use /query then whatever you type will go to them..12:26
andy_lol whatever ttyl ppl12:26
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bshumatethegladiator: save this as ~/.vimrc : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5767  and your vim will have colored syntax-highlighting, etc...12:27
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Squee-Dmy install keeps freezing at the partman stage12:28
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monkeymulletIs the next version going to have install /home to a seperate partition working?12:29
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Squee-Di get blank blue screen after the bar hits 100%12:29
cafuegomonkeymullet: That works fine now as well.12:29
monkeymulletnice one12:30
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cafuegomonkeymullet: I did an install yesterday whilst making it keep my exising /home12:30
cafuegoworks dandy12:30
cafuegoJust....12:30
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cafuegoget a haircut! ;-)12:30
monkeymullet:o12:30
BenUrbanand my home is shared with gentoo12:30
BenUrban:)12:31
cafuegoBenUrban: Go wash your mouth12:31
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PhoulExcuse me12:31
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PhoulIs there nextstep for linux12:31
cafuegoPhoul: Not quite, there's openstep though.12:31
mjrPhoul, what you might want is http://www.gnustep.org12:31
gnomefreakPhoul,  you mean nextstep window manager?12:31
Phoulyeah12:31
cafuegoPhoul: Actual nextstep is closed and copyrighted.12:32
Phoulwell whats close?12:32
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mjrPhoul, see above12:32
PhoulLike my friend just sent me this pic of his windows system12:32
cafuegognustep, probably.12:32
BenUrban*gnustep12:32
WebMavenPhoul: gnustep.12:32
PhoulAnd it looks12:32
Phoul*nice*12:32
PhoulIf i showed somone a screenshot would you be able to tell me what can do that?12:32
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bnDBenUrban, apparently you were right, that slicer program didnt work however if the split files are in order (.001, .002..) then cat blah.mpg.* > blah.mpg works fine ;) thanks12:33
cafuegoPhoul: probably12:33
mjrmmh, it's not about the look, really12:33
bla|patrickhuhu :(12:33
DjLinXdoes anyone know alot about proftpd?12:33
BenUrbanheh, lucky you12:33
bla|patrickopera + flash = confused12:33
cafuegoPhoul: Thing is, you cna make Linux look like *anything*12:33
mjrthough there is the distinct nextstep look, of course12:33
bla|patricksomeone here who had luck with this?12:33
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PhoulOkay heres the first link12:33
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Phoulhttp://coldhak.byethost2.com/tasks_noir.JPG12:33
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Phouloops12:33
BenUrbanas a desktop picture :P12:33
Phoulhttp://coldhak.byethost3.com/tasks_noir.JPG12:34
Phouland theres one more12:34
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SeveasBenUrban, PM12:34
BenUrbank12:34
Phoulhttp://coldhak.byethost3.com/Noir_setup.JPG12:34
mjrPhoul, that's most definitely not classic nextstep :)12:35
PhoulWell what will do that12:35
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korhalfwhere do i put things that i want to start up on bootup12:35
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korhalf/etc/rc2.d?12:35
Phoulanyone know a wm that could do that12:35
Phoulwithout a shitload or work?12:35
cafuegoPhoul: I'm tempted to say any wm, with enough tweaking ;-)12:36
bshumatekorhalf: in /etc/init.d actually, then use update-rc.d12:36
PhoulGad dammit12:36
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PhoulIs there anything that comes with it like that12:36
=== gnomefreak sys nope not me nope not a clue sticking with gnome less confusing
PhoulOr like close12:36
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nytryx_ok question12:36
korhalfbshumate, uhh, i dont know how to use update-rc.d12:36
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Phoulgnomefreak my friend why?12:37
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gnomefreakis that his desktop?12:37
nytryx_whats a way to speed up ubuntu on a system running 550mhz and 128 mb of ram w/out buying more ram?12:37
Phoulyeah his windows desktop12:37
PhoulIts amazing12:37
KyralPhoul: it prolly took a crapload of work to get XP to look like that12:37
bshumatekorhalf: use update-rc.d to select the runlevel(s) you need the script run at.... man update-rc.d if you don't know how to use it12:37
Kyralnytryx_: Fluxbox?12:37
PhoulLol no it didnt Kyral he downloaded it12:38
gnomefreakPhoul,  tell him ull install fluxbox is he can make it look like that :) lol12:38
nytryx_ok the same system ran extremely smooth running Suse 10 KDE 3.512:38
Phoulgnomefreak thats his windows12:38
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nytryx_where can i get KDE 3.5 fo ubuntu?12:38
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gnomefreakPhoul,  windows is hackable but linux is even more so ;)12:38
Phoulgnomefreak thats windows XP12:38
Hobbsee!tell nytryx_ about kde3.512:38
cafuegoNytryx: it's in dapper, currently NOT stable.12:38
PhoulHe downloaded the script thing12:38
Hobbseecafuego: there's a breezy version for it...12:39
cafuegoPhoul: Thing is, SOMEONE did  aLOT of work to create the theme.12:39
Phoulwell uhh12:39
Phoul:\12:39
nytryx_meaning i have to download it from there?12:39
PhoulI dont know how to do anything12:39
Phoulso im no use12:39
Phoul:(12:39
PhoulI just really like that12:39
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dderrhello everyone12:39
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rounehey, i edited the sources.list file, and did a apt-get update,,, i still cant enable universe ...12:40
JemtGreetings. What changes do I haft to make in fstab in order to give myself write access to my shared FAT32 partition ?12:40
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gnomefreakroune,  please use pastebin and paste your sources list12:40
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nytryx_and how do i access the file shares on a windows box inside my network?12:41
allorderhi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch it and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?12:41
gnomefreakroune,  come to think of it the errors would come in handy too12:41
charleshello everybody, i have a rather newb question about ubuntu regarding sharing files between XP and Ubuntu on a FAT32 hard drive, can anyone give me a hand?12:41
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charleswarning, i'm pretty new at this stuff so i understand if i oughta look elsewhere.12:41
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bshumate Jemt: in the fourth column of the fstab for the line pertaining to your fat32 volume, change "ro" to be "rw"12:41
Jemtcharles: Ask your question12:41
charlesok12:42
rounewell, when when i just type "enable" i get a list with alot of stuff, but universe isnt there12:42
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Jemtbshumate: It only contains 'defaults'12:42
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charlesi have three hard disks, one #))gb, one 120GB and one 80GB.  I want to put XP on the 80, Ubuntu on the 120, and use the 300 as FAT32 storage for both12:42
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charlesi.e. so I can get to my mp3s and whatnot from both XP and Ubuntu12:42
charlesis this possible>?12:42
MirithHey, I know this isnt the Laptop channel, but I have a question that I was hoping someone knew something about... Anyone know if there is a way to disbale the touch pad on the laptops that have both the eraser nub and the touchpad12:42
allorderhi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch it and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?12:42
Jemtcharles: Yep12:42
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McJerrywhat would be the command to type to see all running processes on a remote machine if i am vt in?12:43
charlesis it particularly difficult?12:43
j2daosh!ubotu tell me about x server12:43
dderrheh, aptitude was broken, just figured out what the problem was, I did an ifdown....lol12:43
cafuegooooher.12:43
nytryx_charles yeah you just mount the fat32 drive in ubuntu if it does'nt auto mount it12:43
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Jemtcharles: Install Windows first12:43
nytryx_its not hard12:43
cafuego$1700 for a shiny new 2x320GB Athlon64 X2 server12:43
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nytryx_cafuego you selling it lol12:44
j2daoshok... anyone got a few minutes to do nothing but answerr a dumb noobs questions?12:44
gnomefreakroune, i dont understand did you add the universe repo to your sources list?12:44
bshumatejemt: rw,user,noauto instead of defaults should be sufficient12:44
dderrjust ask you noob12:44
bla|patricklinux + opera + flash = confused12:44
bla|patricksomeone here who had luck with this?12:44
bla|patrick:/12:44
cafuegoNytryx: no, just checking component pricing12:44
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charlesso if i install Windows on the 80GB and then Ubuntu on the 120GB, and use Ubuntu to format the 300GB to fat32, they should both see it?12:45
Jemtbshumate: Ok, trying that12:45
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Squee-DI didnt think flash worked with opera on linux12:45
seppehi all12:45
redguycharles: yuppers12:45
Jemtcharles: Correct12:45
nytryx_cafuego i might have been able to get you the parts ceaper i have a whole sale license12:45
cafuegoCan fat32 even handle 300GB?12:45
charlesok great12:45
j2daoshok... i cant port my ssh screen... i set up openssh on here and i can connect but i cant port using no machine12:45
bshumatejemt: then again, "defaults" is supposed to include rw already...12:45
j2daoshhow do i actually install the the files i download off synapsis?12:46
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redguycharles: hrm, cafeugo has a good point12:46
bshumatecafuego: not as one partition12:46
j2daoshhow do i add those programs to my program list?12:46
cafuegonytryx_: That's not going to be at all useful.12:46
seppesomeon who speak italian??12:46
fluvvellchales, fat32 will really suck on 300GTb12:46
charlesis there any other file system besides FAT32 that both XP and Ubuntu can see?12:46
fluvvellsry Gb12:46
cafuegofat32 will really suck regardless12:46
j2daoshis there a way to stop ubntu from asking me for my password every 2 seconds?12:46
fluvvellcafuego, lol but true12:46
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allorderhi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?12:47
dderri'm not sure what you are doing, but consider setting up passwordless ssh12:47
bla|patrickhello :(12:47
bla|patrickhelp?!?12:47
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nytryx_ok wahts a key board short cut to the terminal12:47
dderrj2daosh : but i didn't actually understand what you are doing12:47
fluvvellCharles, if I wanted both linux and windows to see 300Gb, I would put it on a Samba share12:47
charleshmm12:48
jedacan anyone point me in the direction to change my reposits so I can apt-get more?12:48
cafuegocharles: with ext2fsd.sourceforge.net, WinXP can see, read and write ext2 and ext3 just fine.12:48
j2daoshno the password thing aint bothering me on the ssh... does it once when im signing in... im talking about installing apps, adding anything to the customization of the gui... running certain programs that think they should be run by root...12:48
bla|patrickwell.. nobody here who has some time :(12:48
cafuegocharles: I don't know that you'd get great performance, though.12:48
Squee-Dfluvvell that calls for 2 machines tho, im guessing he has one12:48
fluvvellcharles, then you dont need it to be fat32, and all that it needs is an old box of say 500Mz or so12:48
charleswould Samba offer good performance, and is it difficult to get up and running for a relative newb?12:49
naliothubotu: tell jeda about repos12:49
cafuegocharles: What will you use the 300GB for?12:49
fluvvellcafuego, true but its a big partition.12:49
charlesoh, so wo computers12:49
j2daosh!ubotu tell jeda about repositories12:49
charlestwo*12:49
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charlesmostly storage12:49
charlesmp3 files, video files12:49
j2daoshu get that jeda?12:49
dderrj2daosh : i can't help you, good luck though12:49
jedaj2daosh, yes thanks12:49
charlesi do a lot of recording in Windows but I want to be able to acces my .mp3 and .wav mixdowns in Ubuntu12:49
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cafuegocharles: ALternatively, captive NTFS.12:50
nytryx_ok i cant find the terminal12:50
cafuegocharles: Not great, but probably a good compromise.12:50
j2daoshdderr. have you xforwarded your display through ssh?12:50
bla|patrickcafuego: that ruined my linux once12:50
Kzar_frcafuego, or Samba12:50
dderryeah12:50
fluvvellId go Samba12:50
cafuegoKzar_fr: Samba is not useful on a SINGLE MACHINE12:50
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charlesyeah, i'm workin with one machine12:50
Kzar_frcafuego, oh sorry, I've missed somethnig :)12:50
kt0xdcan i install php-nuke i have all configurate12:51
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rounegnomefreak, i uncommented the lines, (universe lines), and then i ran apt-get update, and then i did apt-get upgrade, then i tried enable universe, but it doesnt exists?12:51
redguyVMware+samba perhaps?12:51
fluvvellcharles, if you're spending money on a drive, whats a little pc box gonna hurt?12:51
Kzar_frcharles, ok, so NTFS reading from Linux.12:51
charlesi already have the drives :P12:51
nytryx_ok someone anyone help i cant find the terminal is ther a keyboard short cut for it?12:51
estupendoceroI know this is a really general question, but my machine suddenly started going really slow, and the problem persists after reboots. Any ideas on possible troubleshooting tactics?12:51
j2daoshok, what did u use to do it?12:51
JemtCan anyone help me get write access to my FAT32 drive? I can only read from it12:51
fluvvellit doesn't need graphics or keyboard or anything else other than a network card12:51
jairohello . how can i call totem from the terminal?12:51
cafuegocharles: You can certainly read ntfs from within Linux. There's a not-completely-stable ntfs write wrapper for Linux, too.12:51
gnomefreakroune,  you have to add the repo for universe in your sources list there isnt one there by default that i know of12:51
dderrj2daosh : i'm checking hold on12:51
Kzar_frcharles, that's better to have a FAT32 file system to share files between Win and Linux12:52
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gnomefreakubotu tell roune about sources12:52
Squee-Dwow ubunto cd does not appear to come with hpt370 drivers. Is there any way to get the module and insert at install time?12:52
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charlesso i should be able to mount my NTFS drive in Ubuntu?12:52
gnomefreakthat pm you just got from ubotu will give you examples of sources to use12:52
cafuegoSquee-D: Don't use the on-chip raid.12:52
j2daoshjemt... cant you sudo chmod 777 the drive?12:52
cafuegocharles: Yes, you will be able to mount it fine, for READING.12:52
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Jemtj2daosh: Don't what to change file privileges12:53
charlesok, how do I do that?12:53
Squee-Dcafuego im not :) sadly, the only way this machine supports ata100 is through the hpt370 chipset12:53
JemtIt should be done within fstab12:53
bimbericharles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:53
cafuegocharles: If you install WIndows first, Ubuntu will detect and mount for you.12:53
Squee-DI dont have it set up as raid, its a single drive.12:53
charleshmm12:53
cafuegoSquee-D: yuck ;-)12:53
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charlesi tried that, and maybe i'm not looking in the right place, but I can't see the 120 or the 300 drives12:54
j2daoshcafe... yeah it will mount but you wont have access to it if it is a ntfs partition12:54
fluvvellcharles, ntfs for reading is fine,12:54
cafuegoSquee-D: I thought it was supposed to support it in ata mode...12:54
Squee-Dheh yeah, but you know, it would still make sense to have the hpt module on here, plenty of people dual boot anyway12:54
estupendoceroSo no ideas on how to track down an unidentified general slowdown in Breezy?12:54
j2daoshi mean bimberi12:54
bla|patrickcan someone explain me, why ubuntu i sblocking ddc transfers per default12:54
cafuegoj2daosh: With extremely minot tweaking (cross hurdle when get there) he can.12:54
charleshow do i gain access to read the files, then?12:54
bla|patrickand why bittorrent isnt working12:54
bla|patrickx)12:54
beelzebub1987open your torrent port12:54
Squee-Dcafuego maybe it does and my problem is different to what i think it is, but the partman is dying when discovering the drive, and fdisk is being a freak12:54
bla|patricki havent modified the iptables12:54
beelzebub1987if you have a router12:54
j2daoshcharles... what format u have?12:54
charlesthe 120 and the 300 are NTFS12:55
cafuegocharles: After booting Ubuntu, you make a one-line tweak to the fstab file, that ensure the NTFS partition is mounted as YOUR user id, you you have proper read access.12:55
charlesi am not sure what this one is12:55
j2daoshok lemme see if i can remember what that other person told me...12:55
estupendocerooh well, thanks anyway12:55
j2daoshgimme a sec12:55
bla|patrick!iptables12:55
charlessilly question, but how do i tweak the fstab file?12:55
cafuegoSquee-D: what does 'dmesg' say about it?12:55
j2daoshahh thats it12:55
bla|patrickdoes the bot respond?12:55
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bla|patrick:(12:55
bla|patrickno12:55
j2daoshthe fstab12:55
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j2daoshhold on12:55
dderrj2daosh : i think it is: ssh -X machineName12:55
bla|patrick!iptables12:55
cafuegocharles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions  explains.12:56
Squee-Dcafuego does dmesg just tail /var/messages?12:56
korhalfdont bother with x forwarding12:56
korhalfit doesnt work well12:56
cafuegoSquee-D: No, it dumps the kernel log buffer12:56
Squee-Dor is it the boot messages?12:56
dderrj2daosh : i lost my notes though12:56
cafuegokorhalf: it works 100% fine.12:56
Squee-Dahh k i'll check it after this reboot12:56
j2daoshfrom a windows box to my linux box?12:56
korhalfcafuego, its too slow, no point12:56
nytryx_ok kubuntu downloading12:56
cafuego j2daosh: if windows is running an X server, sure.12:56
charlesthanks guys12:57
Squee-Dsorry been a few years since i've installed or done any sysadmin on a linux box.. don't mean to be dense :P12:57
korhalfj2daosh, yeah meaning you have to download cygwin12:57
cafuegoj2daosh: Your network must be broken, I have no problems with it.12:57
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j2daoshok12:57
j2daoshgot it12:57
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korhalfcafuego, you mean MY network must be broken.12:57
cafuegoeh, korhalf12:57
kt0xdwhe i unzip php-nukexxx for this work???12:57
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Squee-Dcyg? nah pay a fortune for exceed. you know you want to :P12:57
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYhi, anybody here knows how to display Total CPU usage in % for mrtg (dont use snmp)12:57
j2daoshhere is what you will do for your ntfs drive12:57
kt0xdi have all confugurate12:57
bla|patrickwell if the bot doesnt, could someone else give me a hand12:57
Kzar_frj2daosh, have a look at FreeNX project: that's great and speed of light over Internet12:57
j2daoshcan u "sudo"12:57
bla|patricki need help with iptables i guess12:57
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BFA|WoRsTeNBoYj2daosh to me?12:58
j2daoshwhere did that ntfs guy go??12:58
allorderhi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?12:58
cafuegokorhalf: You might also need to check which algorishm ssh uses. An old box might have trouble with the datatstream. I ise 'ssh -C -X user@host' and it all works fine. (few GHz machines though)12:58
j2daoshbfa... huh?12:58
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JemtGRRR, this is really driving me crazy! Why don't I have write permission to my FAT32 partition ??12:58
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Kzar_frj2daosh, FreeNX is a graphical way to connect a distant Linux box from Windows or Linux12:58
Kzar_frtested and approved12:59
varsendaggerJemt, how did you mount it?12:59
Kzar_frFreeNX is over SSH, so it's secure12:59
cafuegoJemt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:59
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varsendaggerand have you tried sudo12:59
varsendagger?12:59
nytryx_freeNX?12:59
BFA|WoRsTeNBoYanybody about that cpu usage ?12:59
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j2daoshnever heard of it but i will look it up12:59
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bimberij2daosh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX12:59
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Jemtvarsendagger: As root12:59
Kzar_frnytryx_, yep. have a look at nomachine.com for a demo12:59
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nytryx_ok does that work like remote desktop kicking the logged in user off when i login remotly?12:59
Jemtvarsendagger: mount /media/hda401:00
tonyyarussoJemt: You'll need to set a umount in /etc/fstab.  (I had the same problem.)01:00
Seveasnytryx_, no, it creates a new login01:00
cafuegoNytryx: No, it was designed properly and not hacked in :-)01:00
Jemttonyyarusso: How ?01:00
kimbja98hey all, I have a slight install problem01:00
Kzar_frj2daosh, do you know VNC? So FreeNX is far speeder than VNC01:00
j2daoshok01:00
j2daoshim looking into it now01:00
Squee-DKzar_fr is itr still a screen scrap technology?01:00
cafuegoNytryx; linux boxes have no issues hosting simplulaneous remote desktop loging for even up to hundreds of users, subject to disk/ram/bandwidth.01:00
cafuegosimultaneous01:00
nytryx_humm im going to go check it out do i need a client on the other end or just the server on my end?01:00
nytryx_wait i said tat backwards01:00
kimbja98when I use the install CD, it freezes upon detecting my USB devices...01:01
tonyyarussoJemt: sudo pico /etc/fstab (or your choice of editor).01:01
Jemttonyyarusso: What is a umount? I know what the command does and how it is used. But how do I combine it with fstab ?01:01
j2daoshu need a server on both ends01:01
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sethkUnless you are controlling a windows machine from your linux box, none of these desktop things like vnc are necessary.01:01
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Seveasj2daosh, no01:01
tonyyarussoJemt: Ignore that bit actually, I meant umask.01:01
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whiskyhow can i play .mpg with totem?01:01
tonyyarussoJemt: Sorry.01:01
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j2daoshreally seveas?01:01
Jemttonyyarusso: Oooh :)01:01
nytryx_ok it would be a windows box being controled from a linux box01:01
bimberij2daosh: no, server on the machine you want to log into01:01
tonyyarussoJemt: Does that make more sense?01:01
Jemttonyyarusso: That sounds right01:01
sethkTo view the linux desktop on either another linux desktop or windows requires only things built into X and freely available.01:01
nytryx_so just install the server on thewindows box?01:01
Seveasonly the server needs the freenx server, the client needs the Nomachine NX client01:01
j2daoshhmmm01:01
Kzar_frJemt, make a backup of your /etc/sftab first...01:02
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cafuegoNytryx; Then yes, it will log you out from Windows.01:02
Jemttonyyarusso: Think I have used that ealier01:02
tonyyarussoJemt: Just add something like umask=000 to the options part of fstab then.01:02
j2daoshcrap01:02
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Seveasnytryx_, no, for that you need vnc/windows rdp01:02
Squee-Dseth Cyg X doesnt bring the effect of having a WM along with it tho.01:02
bla|patrickcrap, its like if i am ignoerd :(01:02
bla|patrickgood night guy01:02
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bla|patrickthis isnt helping me01:02
j2daoshso ur telling me the nomachine "server" i have been using to try and conect at work is only the client?01:02
nytryx_ok so i dont need to put anything on my linux desktop to use FreeNX on the windows box?01:02
Seveasbut connecting a client to a linux server is possible01:02
Jemttonyyarusso: And what does it do?01:02
cafuegoNytryx: Default Gnome has Application -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client, which does windows remote desktop.01:02
whiskyhow can i play .mpg? totem doesnt seem to do it01:02
varsendaggerwhisky, mplayer should01:03
Jemttonyyarusso: Still no write permission01:03
nytryx_but it kicks the currently loged in user off when i login remotely01:03
tonyyarussoJemt: It's basically the opposite of permissions, setting what is hidden (masked).01:03
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cafuegoNytryx: if you want to use vnc or freenx, you'll need to install those on both linux and Windows.01:03
whiskyvarsendagger, apt-get install mplayer ?01:03
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sethkNytryx, I don't know about that, but all you need to put your linux desktop onto your windows box is X, and cygwin includes a free precompiled X server for windows01:03
tonyyarussoJemt: You have to umount and mount again before a new fstab entry takes effect.01:03
Kzar_frNytryx, FreeNX ? no it doesn"t01:03
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Jemttonyyarusso: Ok, IC. Under <option> I now have this : defaults,umask=00001:03
whisky!mplayer01:03
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ubotu[mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106101:03
Jemttonyyarusso: I know :)01:03
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sethkNytryx, nothing needs to be installed on the linux side.  The capability is built into X.01:03
olipaulhi all. i'm trying to get my two machines to talk via their wireless nics.01:03
j2daoshwhen i try a ssh i get the server was explicitly killed01:03
tonyyarussoJemt: And make sure it was the options line fore the Fat32 drive or partition, of course.01:03
n0dlhow do i take a screenshot in terminal?01:03
j2daoshi can only putty to my box01:03
varsendaggeryeah it works really well01:03
olipauli can see the server's essid on the client, but not sure how to get an ip on the client side01:04
Jemttonyyarusso: Of cause :)01:04
tonyyarussoJemt: Can I get the whole line?01:04
Jemttonyyarusso: Dosn't work01:04
Jemttonyyarusso: Sure, sec01:04
Kzar_frj2daosh, putty IS an ssh client for WIndows01:04
M_Cheevyheay folks... managed after much blood sweat and tears to get debian installed on a sata raid0 array.  Yesterday my disks for ubuntu arrived.  thinking of making the swap, can anyone give me an honest appraisal of the short comings / benefits of making the swap over?01:04
nytryx_ok so install FreeNX on the windows box is all i need to do?01:04
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olipaulanyone have an idea?01:04
sethkNytryx, why do you want to install freenx on the windows box?01:04
Jemt/dev/hda4   /media/hda4   vfat   defaults,umask=000   0   001:04
Jemttonyyarusso: /dev/hda4   /media/hda4   vfat   defaults,umask=000   0   001:04
Kzar_frnytryx_, no, you need Terminal Server under Windows01:04
morale_im having trouble getting my ati m7 card working in ubuntu, anyone have a dell inspiron laptop and got acceleration going?01:04
j2daoshwell with putty i can ssh in... do any command line work but it wont forward the gui... and when i use nomachine i get an error about no server on this side01:04
Kzar_frand Nomachine client under Linux01:04
nytryx_i want to be able to do ipconfig and what not remotely when my wife calls me and says "the internet is down"01:05
olipaulanybody?01:05
j2daoshlol ny01:05
sethkNytryx, for that I just run sshd on windows01:05
Kzar_frnytryx_, if Internet is down, you wil not be abble to connect in your wife comp's !01:05
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j2daoshyeah you dont need to prt the gui to do that01:05
Kyralsethk: which is usesless with the Net down01:05
nytryx_so i need openssh on windows?01:05
j2daoshits all command based anyway01:05
sethkNytryx, install the cygwin package.  It has the ssh, sshd, all the cli stuff you need for windows.01:05
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nytryx_lol on the net work i will be01:06
sethkKyral, every remote software is useless with the net down.01:06
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sethkKyral, one is hardly any more useless than another01:06
varsendaggerdebian is great, ubuntus community is really the heart of the what i think makes ubuntu better than debian, and the fact that there is a new release every six months01:06
tonyyarussoJemt: And even after saving that and using sudo to remount it still doesn't cooperate?01:06
varsendaggerM_Cheevy,01:06
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Jemttonyyarusso: Correct01:06
tonyyarussoJemt: That line is identical to mine, other than the device and mount point.01:07
Kzar_frvarsendagger, no troll please, it's late here in France.01:07
BenUrbanSeveas: problem solved, thanks a lot01:07
nytryx_Kzar_fr we have a home network lol and she always looses her connection  and i always have to run ipconfig for her because she does'nt know or like doing it01:07
n0dldoes anyone know how to take a screenshot in term?01:07
Jemttonyyarusso: Hmm, wierd01:07
M_Cheevyvarsendagger: it also appears as if the initramfs tools are a little more mature, or is that just my lack of knowledge about initramfs?01:07
sethkM_Cheevy, more mature than what?01:07
varsendaggerM_Cheevy, i really don't know01:07
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tonyyarussoJemt: This is just a local drive, right?  I don't know what would happen if it was some network thing.01:07
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M_Cheevyvarsendagger: than the similiar tools in debian.. maybe mature isn't the word, but definately appears more user-friendly01:08
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varsendaggercould be01:08
Squee-Dcafuego: dmesg seems to find the drive well enough. running fdisk on it works well (/dev/hde) but the 'partman' portion of the install is very slow, and after the bar reaches 100% the screen blanks blue with the one whit eline at the end and thats where it stays01:08
nytryx_brb01:08
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Kzar_frUbuntu is desktop "out of the box" oriented01:08
Kzar_frthat's all01:08
M_Cheevyvarsendagger: as for the community, I have to agree, if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have gotten anywhere with debian...01:08
sethkM_Cheevy, they are identical01:08
Squee-Dthe partition obviously need to be removed as it has a single ntfs on there at the moment, but i thought i would get an interface to do so01:08
Jemttonyyarusso: It's a local drive01:08
M_Cheevysethk: I thought the repositories only got sync'd every six months so the packages do diverge quite a bit?01:09
tonyyarussoJemt:  Hmm...curious.01:09
sethkM_Cheevy, initramfs & co is kernel stuff, the same on all distros for a given kernel version01:09
varsendaggerM_Cheevy, i really cant't really think of anything that is a blaring issue, you may have to deal with using sudo rather than su01:09
cmathesonM_Cheevy: most packages probably don't diverge much (if at all)... some OTOH will change a lot01:09
Jemttonyyarusso: Hmm, I actually got write access in a terminal01:09
JemtIt might be Gnome File Browser that is not working01:09
Kzar_frQ: is there a way to join 2 partition? I mean join /dev/hda1 (mounted on / ) and /dev/hda2 (monted on /home ) ?01:10
M_Cheevysethk: okay... just checking... the whole bootstrap issue is a bit more complicated than when I first started with linux back in the 0.99 kernel days01:10
cmathesonKzar_fr: check out parted01:10
sethkKzar_fr, LVM does something similar01:10
tonyyarussoJemt: Interesting.  Had you closed and restarted the file browser in between these steps?01:10
cmathesonKzar_fr: but you'll need to boot off the livecd or something because you can't have the drive mounted01:10
sethkKzar_fr, and you can use links to get a similar effect as well.01:10
Jemttonyyarusso: I have now - still dosn't work01:10
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Kzar_frsethk, ok, I'm a bit lack of free disk space.01:10
M_Cheevyvarsendagger: a couple of command name changes don't phase me, over the yrs I've swap distros a few times01:10
Kzar_frcmatheson, for sure01:10
sethkKzar_fr, LVM separates your physical disks/partitions from your logical space01:10
tonyyarussoJemt: I wonder if logging out and back in would help, if you can get it in a terminal.01:11
Kzar_frsethk, yep01:11
sethkKzar_fr, but sometimes a few symbolic links can accomplish something similar with much less work.01:11
olipaulhave i got this setup right. server has two nics. one wired to the router (.11) and the wireless nic is up, with an ip of .13, and gateway .11 - my client can see the essid, but selecting static ip and gateway of .13 gives me nothing.01:11
varsendaggerM_Cheevy, what do you like about debian01:11
cmathesonsethk: hey i've been meaning to play around w/ LVM, but i always wonder if there is some sort of performance hit involved01:11
varsendaggeri really like the apt-get feature01:11
Jemttonyyarusso: Giving it a try :)01:11
Kzar_frsethk, that will not be usefull for me :)01:11
sethkcmatheson, well, of course there is always an impact, but it is very minor.01:11
M_Cheevyvarsendagger: not sworn to it, tried it out as it was one of the ones mentioned in the first article I read about sata "fake"raid on linux...01:12
cmathesonsethk: hmm, i'll have to try it on one of my servers one of these days01:12
Jemttonyyarusso: BRB01:12
mz2oh wow, this VMWare Player rocks01:12
tonyyarussoJemt: okay.01:12
Kzar_frLVM works over any filesystem my current kernel is supporting, right ?01:12
techrushso ive got ubuntu all set up but now i dont know what to do with it01:13
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techrushwhat should i do01:13
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mz2works perfectly in Dapper at least just when you download the tar and run the installation with default settings. am ircing from FC5T1 now01:13
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Kzar_frtechrush, give your comp to someone in need of it ?01:13
varsendaggertechrush, what do you normally run01:13
cmathesontechrush: umm... use it?01:13
mz2works surprisingly quickly as well. you hardly notice the difference01:13
techrushi normally use ableton live and cool edit pro01:14
varsendaggerinstall dgen and zsnes and find some sega and SNES roms01:14
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M_Cheevytechrush: and those programmes allow you to do exactly what? (image edit, video edit, make web pages, what?)01:14
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varsendaggerWe have audacity that is like cool edit pro01:14
jemtTony_Sidaway: Thanks for your help. Restarting helped :)01:14
jemtLater :)01:14
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techrushsequence music01:15
n0dldoes anyone know how to use imagemagick?01:15
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varsendaggerrosegarden is like cubase01:15
M_Cheevythere is also a good midi sequencer in the packages for download01:15
M_Cheevyrose garden, that's it01:15
Seveasn0cturnal_, look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/, they are wonderful01:15
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Seveasn0dl*01:15
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n0dlyes Seveas?01:16
varsendaggeris there anything like frutyloops for linux?01:16
mz2techrush: you won't find anything like ableton in linux, i'm afraid. rosegarden and ardour are the best audio enthusiast/pro level software really01:16
MasterTsunamiyou can make webpages with screem :/01:16
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M_Cheevytechrush: take a look through the Multimedia section of Synaptic (Package Manager) and also the menu item by the same name.01:16
n0dli just played with it01:16
n0dl15:57 < sapo> but i use just gedit for php01:16
n0dl15:57 <@bored2k> i'm using jed (txt based.. rox) and anjuta atm01:16
n0dl15:57 < sapo> i dont need more than code highlighting01:16
techrushok01:16
techrushnothing like ableton in linux :(01:16
monkeymulletOh man01:16
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monkeymulletI installled xubuntu and now I cant get into KDE or GNOME, complains about ~/.DOCPserver_Computername_001:16
mz2muse's pretty good as well in features, but it's very much unfinished and useless in usability01:16
techrushi geuss ubuntu will just be my porn os01:16
techrushlol01:16
troutHi guys... I have a backuppc problem01:16
M_Cheevytechrish: what is ableton?01:16
Squee-Dtechrush also, freshmeat.net and sourceforge.net and search for the kind of things that interest you01:16
n0dlSeveas: yeh?01:17
troutI installed it and unfortunately did not pay attention to the web interface to config it.01:17
Seveasn0dl, look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/, they are wonderful01:17
troutI can't find it anywhere... any ideas01:17
Toma-monkeymullet": ive got the same problem i think...01:17
varsendaggerhow do you change the default user info for firefox01:17
M_Cheevytrout: fail to pay attention in linux at your own risk...01:17
n0dlSeveas: alright i will tahnk you01:17
trouti am learning that quickly01:17
mz2techrush: although the whole jackd based architechture in the proper linux audio apps is pretty nice. extremely low latencies and free routing of inputs and outputs, a bit like what you get done between different proprietary applications in mac and windows as well01:17
Seveasnot trying to RTFM you here, but these docs are good01:17
M_Cheevytrout: try dpkg -L <package name> it will list the locations of the files.01:17
monkeymulletToma-, u getting anywere?01:17
scottMy dvd does not work in Ubuntu! how do i get it working anyone???01:18
Toma-is there a way to get some debugging output from the gnome startup? does it log somewhere?01:18
mz2only that they only need to support jackd, not a zillion different of these proprietary routing standards :)01:18
Toma-monkeymullet: nope01:18
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troutyes I have done that, but where from there?01:18
cmathesonscott: you should be more specific01:18
varsendaggerwhat does RTFM mean?01:18
cmathesonvarsendagger: read the freakin' manual01:18
SeveasRead the F* manual01:18
seth_k|lappyread the "fine" manual01:18
Squee-Dtechrush and if what you want doesnt exist, start a project and learn to code :)01:18
varsendaggerak01:18
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M_Cheevyscott: dvd's don't play or you can't even see the drive?01:18
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techrushlol @ me learning to code01:18
MasterTsunamidoesn't audacity do me music01:18
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techrush:)01:18
MasterTsunamiand some other stuf f:/01:18
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redguyisn't it Read the Friendly Manual?01:18
M_Cheevytech: who said you needed to learn how to code?01:19
cmathesonredguy: haha, all of the above01:19
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Squee-Dim pretty sure its read the far king manual01:19
Squee-Dtho i guess thats rtfkm01:19
techrushSquee-D did01:19
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Anon1690Hey guys, I did some searching around and couldn't find how to fix the * cannot execute "sbin/getty" error, help?01:19
MasterTsunamiand ardour does music? :|01:19
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M_Cheevyredguy: I've also seen it as "fine" manual.. it's like snafu... Situation Normal all Fouled/F*cked up.. depends on the audience which you use.01:19
techrushi looked at ardour but it only records01:19
techrushno sequencer01:19
MasterTsunamitechrush, http://lalists.stanford.edu/lau/2005/04/0534.html01:19
MasterTsunami:/01:20
techrush(not yet)01:20
Toma-my gnome session isnt starting right. gets past the splash then starts making error sounds at me with no dialogs. i try loading xfce and i get no panels either. havent tried kde, but im in centericq now thru irc :( is there anyway to get some feedback from the gnome startup????01:20
mz2techrush: yes, no midi sequencing01:20
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mz2techrush: although it does support automation through midi, even control surfaces01:20
cmathesonToma-: check your ~/.xsession-errors01:20
Toma-ok!01:20
M_Cheevytechrush: there is a sequencing program, just look through the multimedia section of the packages on packages.ubuntu.net01:20
scottDvd player shows up but when you try to play one it does not work?01:20
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techrushok01:20
techrushthanks guys01:20
SanuskaAnyone have any ideas?01:20
mz2techrush: rosegarden is a reasonably good sequencer01:20
M_Cheevyscott: okay... it's probably the old css issue...01:20
apollo2011When I create a new login from Applications->System Tools->New Login, how do I switch between the first login and the new one?01:21
Squee-D"can help me find the uptodate driver for win xp-sp2?"  found on the ubuntu forums in a topic regarding the HPT370 module01:21
mz2very easy to use, although doesn't come anywhere near to ableton in features :)01:21
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scottWhat is CSS/01:21
corresponderyummi01:21
SanuskaSytle Sheets?01:21
redguytechrush: sequencer is the same thing that tracker is?01:21
correspondergood night01:21
aTypicalCascading Style Sheets01:21
M_Cheevyscott: the encryption of dvd's to prevent copying or is it CCS01:21
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troutok, so I have dbkg and found usr/share/doc/backup.html. WHen I go there in nautilus the directory is empty?01:22
varsendaggeris there anything like frutyloops?01:22
SeveasM_Cheevy, n, that's alsco CSS01:22
monkeymulletToma-, xICE has n00bed my ubuntu01:22
MasterTsunamii think wired will work like ableton soon :/01:22
abaquerigday01:22
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MasterTsunamihttp://bloodshed.net/wired01:22
MasterTsunami:/01:22
bimberiapollo2011: Applications -> System Tools -> New Login01:22
redguytechrush: there's an impulse tracker clone for linux. a friend of mine says that it superseeds the original in some aspects01:22
MasterTsunamianyway, http://www.linux-sound.org/01:22
SanuskaAnyone know how to fix "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" All there was on the forums was a topic about it and no fix.01:22
MasterTsunamigo get over informed01:22
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apollo2011bimberi: yeah, but is there a way to switch between the two once I have created a second?01:22
abaquerianyone knows how I can convert Mpeg to DVD?01:22
Squee-Dtechrush basically, if something you want does not exist, the most expedient thing is to help projects that are heading in the right direction01:22
M_Cheevy!marillat01:22
ubotuIf you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed.01:22
bimberiapollo2011: then ctrl-alt-f7 will be the first login and ctrl-alt-f8 will be the second01:22
scottIs there a way around it?01:23
apollo2011bimberi: oh ok thx01:23
monkeymulletwhat happens if i uninstall ICE when im running ICE?01:23
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redguytechrush: it's called chesetracker01:23
techrushok01:23
Squee-Dand ya can help with testing, coding, documentation, samples, donation etc..01:23
M_Cheevyscott: you can get what you need from the nearest marillat repository.. some one here should be able to give you an url to it01:23
bimberiapollo2011: oops, misread your question.  But got there anyway :)01:23
Squee-Di was just being a little facetious with the 'learn to code' thing :)01:23
MasterTsunamitechrush, www.linux-sound.org01:23
MasterTsunami:/01:23
techrushcool thanks everyone01:24
techrushdinner time bbl01:24
M_Cheevyscott: this article talks about it, just above the "swatting bugs" section: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-ubuntu01:24
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whitesoftHi!01:24
Toma-my .xsession-errors looks like an xice error factory01:24
ajmitchSquee-D: you're encouraging people to help out on ubuntu? great :)01:24
JemtI have a wierd problem with my shared FAT32 partition (shared ressource for Win XP and Ubuntu). All folders containing danish characters (,  and ) is being displayed with a '?' instead of the danish character and with the following text in the folder name : (invalid encoding). How can I fix this? I want Windows and Linux to be 100% compatable - I can't afford data lose01:24
scottthanks i will check it out!!01:24
sulan_hello .. howe do i get acces to ubuntu from windows ?? i have installed the smb server.. i see it but i cant get acces to it .. plz help01:24
Squee-Dajmitch - on any foss project01:25
Squee-Dajmitch and hiya :)01:25
M_Cheevyscott: de nada01:25
ajmitchSquee-D: get them working on ubuntu, we need willing vic^Wvolunteers01:25
M_CheevyJemt: not clear, which OS is messing up the characters?01:25
Sanuska"* cannot execute "sbin/getty" Can someone please help? I've been getting this error for about a half an hour now on my linux back..01:25
Sanuskabox*01:25
Squee-Daj what project i know you from? one of the wiki/groupware tools right?01:26
ajmitchSquee-D: probably01:26
JemtM_Cheevy: Ubuntu is01:26
ajmitchSquee-D: phpgroupware, I bet01:26
Squee-Dyeah that sounds bout right01:26
JemtM_Cheevy: Don't think Windows would act like this :)01:26
ajmitchSquee-D: but I tend to spend a lot more time on ubuntu :)01:26
Squee-DIm so annoyed by groupware tools01:26
Squee-Dnothing ever fits01:26
ptlois it safe to install linux-image-2.6.15 package from ubuntu archives, on breezy? i guess it's for dapper, but i need the bleeding edge version of kernel, and i'd like to avoid manual recompiling if i can01:27
M_CheevyJemt: sounds like you might need to run dpkg-reconfigure locations and select the ones that correspond to your language, you can select more than one.01:27
ajmitchSquee-D: we should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic01:27
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M_CheevyJemt: that's 'dpkg-reconfigure locations'01:27
JemtM_Cheevy: Ok, I'll try that01:27
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Toma-im also getting a "Hostname lookup failure on localhost" from gnome. i havent changed my hostname at all....01:28
SanuskaThe forum post says "Solved!" But the person never posted a fix...01:28
JemtM_Cheevy: 'locations' is not installed01:28
M_CheevyToma: do you have a localhost entry in your /etc/hosts file?01:28
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bimberiToma-: check that /etc/hosts has localhost for 127.0.0.101:28
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M_CheevyJemt: that might be it... I take it you're having langauge characters problems elsewhere (other than just 'ls') too?01:29
x_orI've got a broken gnucash install.  I've tried running sudo apt-get -f install, but I keep getting this error:  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_1%3a0.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl', which is also in package libofx0c102 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)01:29
x_orErrors were encountered while processing:01:29
Toma-ok01:29
x_orCan anyone tell me what I can do to repair this?01:29
JemtM_Cheevy: Don't think so..01:29
Toma-didnt do any good :(01:30
mkyb14awstats.. how to you start it or use it after installing the apt-get version01:30
JemtM_Cheevy: No problems in irssi (IRC) and my text editors01:30
Seveasx_or, that's icky, a missing Replaces: / Conflicts: pait01:30
JemtM_Cheevy: nor in a console/terminal01:30
Seveasx_or, please report yhis on bugzilla01:30
SanuskaCould someone please help me with "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" they said they fixed it but no fix was posted01:31
mcphailToma-: try editing /etc/fstab01:31
Seveasx_or, you can solve it with dpkg --purge --force-depends remove libofx0c102 && apt-get -f install01:31
M_CheevyJemt: hmm, okay, it might be called something other than locations in this distro.....01:31
ajmitchSeveas: oh that one is well known, and it's in universe01:31
Toma-mcphail what will that accomplish?01:31
mcphailToma-: you could add an iocharset option to the vfat options01:31
Toma-im not using vfat01:31
Seveasajmitch, ah ok, fix it then, you're the motu :p01:32
ajmitchSeveas: it's a dependency of gnucash, that we almost got fixed properly before release :)01:32
mcphailToma-: iocharset=utf-8 (i'm not certain of the syntax)01:32
mjr"iocharset=utf8"01:32
M_CheevyToma: didn't you say you were??? on xp?01:32
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mjrthe kernel doesn't want dashes01:32
ajmitchSeveas: yes, well.. breezy has been released :P01:32
Seveasb-updates :)01:32
Toma-haha no way. im in centreicq. a cli client01:32
SanuskaI'm guessing I should just try reinstalling?01:32
ajmitchSeveas: not sure why it didn't go in there01:33
mcphailToma-: thanks mjr. Then umount and mount the partition01:33
M_CheevyToma: whoops, my bad, that was Jemt01:33
monkeymullethow do u uninstall xfce. doing apt-get uninstall xubuntu-desktop doesnt work01:33
Seveasmonkeymullet, use debfoster to prune xubuntu-desktop01:33
Toma-mcphail: why would i wanna do that?01:33
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x_orSeveas:  Where should I report this?01:33
mikehey all01:33
mcphailToma-: hmm. am i mixing you up with Jemt as well?01:33
mcphailToma-: sorry01:34
Seveasx_or, nowhere, ajmitch just told me it is already known01:34
JemtI have a wierd problem with my shared FAT32 partition (shared ressource for Win XP and Ubuntu). All folders containing danish characters (,  and ) is being displayed with a '?' instead of the danish character and with the following text in the folder name : (invalid encoding). How can I fix this?01:34
M_Cheevymcphail: I thnk you are.. Jemt is the one with the character set issues in vfat01:34
x_orSeveas:  Ok, thanks!  Your suggestion worked, thank you very much01:34
mikequick question for anyone who's at all knowlegable about Ubuntu01:34
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M_Cheevymchpail: and I might have started it ;)01:34
Hobbsee!tell mike about anyone01:34
SeveasJemt, set an iocharset in /etc/fstab01:34
JemtM_Cheevy: Yes01:34
mcphailJemt: try what i mistakenly said to Toma- above!01:34
SanuskaCould someone please assist me? * cannot execute "sbin/getty", I think i'm just gonna try reinstalling or something01:35
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Jemtmcphail: Ok :)01:35
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M_Cheevymcphail: in debian it would be handled by reconfiguring "locations" what's that package named in this distro?01:35
monkeymulletwhat is debfoster?01:35
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mcphailM_Cheevy: would that also change the iocharset is fstab?01:36
M_Cheevyit's an aussie beer drinking debutante?01:36
mikeHow do I install gftp? I've tried sudo apt-get install gftp, but i get a quick package and dependency finish and then a Couldn't find package gftp01:36
Toma-how does this debfoster work? sudo debfoster -p xubuntu-desktop?01:36
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tonyyarussoJemt: Did you succeed?01:36
JemtHow should this iocharset look like ?01:36
M_Cheevymcphail: that hanles the drive's file system, but the language setting is more global than that01:36
Toma-monkeymullet: you need to apt-get install it01:37
JemtAnd where should I specify it?01:37
Sanuska* cannot execute "sbin/getty", help?01:37
dooglusToma-: what are you wanting to do with debfoster?01:37
mcphailM_Cheevy: i'm not sure changing locales would alter options in /etc/fstab. I think mount likes to receive specific options.01:38
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Toma-dooglus: trying to remove xubuntu-desktop and all its deps01:38
Jemttonyyarusso: Yep, I now have write permission :)01:38
Jemttonyyarusso: It was just the File Browser that gave me problems01:38
mikeAny idea why apt-get install gftp would say it couldnt find package gftp? I was under the impression it would download and install gftp, otherwise, what must I do first before the install01:38
tonyyarussoJemt: All right.  Glad it's figured out.01:39
Jemttonyyarusso: Me too :)01:39
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Toma-mike: you need to enable universe and multiverse first01:39
Hobbsee!info gftp01:39
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ubotugftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB01:39
Hobbseeit's in universe01:39
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SWATI wish to re-encode an MP3 file, how can I do this?01:39
Toma-as you can see01:39
monkeymulletdooglus, because xubuntu has caused KDE and gNOME not to load01:39
JemtSeveas: How do I set an iocharset in my fstab ?01:39
brian_hay01:39
mikeis that in the synaptic package mgr?01:39
monkeymulletdooglus, just blank screen then back to session login01:39
SanuskaDoes anyone know how to fix * cannot execute "sbin/getty"? At least say no so I know your getting my messages :/01:39
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HobbseeSanuska: we're getting your messages - i have no clue, sorry01:40
korhalfSWAT: what do you mean re-encode?01:40
korhalfSWAT: use sound Converter01:40
tonyyarussoIs it possible/advisable to have two separate installations a Firefox, one with all sorts of extensions, and one to use when you need something light and fast?01:40
korhalfSWAT: under apps you can do it.01:40
mcphailJemt: change the 4th column in the line with "windows" to read "iocharset=utf8"01:40
korhalftonyyarusso: if you want something light and fast, use dillo01:40
SWATkorhalf, re-encode 192 to 12801:40
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SWATfor MP3 player usage01:41
korhalfSWAT: yeah either that or use lame and reencode with that..01:41
SWATkorhalf, thanks I'll look into it :)01:41
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Ophiocusdarn i have like the weirdest bug with my networking01:41
korhalfSWAT: lame -b 128 file output01:41
Ophiocusanyone wanna hear it?01:41
fggcan i use the internet using usb on ubuntu01:41
Jemtmcphail: Like this: defaults,umask=000,iocharset=utf8   ?01:41
korhalfSWAT: actually default is 128 bitrate anyway..01:41
mikehow do I enable universe?01:41
fggusing a d-link DSL302-G01:41
dooglusToma-: so you just run "debfoster" without arguments, say "y" to ubuntu-desktop and "p" to xubuntu-desktop.01:42
mcphailJemt: that'll probably do the job01:42
mikeand multiverse for that matter01:42
westymattis ubuntu 5.1 supposed to have gcc and glibc install by default?01:42
Jemtmike: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list01:42
SWATkorhalf, thanks :) How can I do this with all files in a dir? :D01:42
mikethank you01:42
mjrwestymatt, gcc not, install the build-essential package01:42
dooglusToma-: use your judgement for the other questions - if unsure, you can 's' to skip the question or '?' to see a description of the package01:42
korhalfSWAT: write a script like this01:42
westymattwhere can i find that at?01:42
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westymattthank you for your help01:42
Jemtmcphail: Ok, cool. But I'm not sure it is a good idea to use UTF8. I think Windows is using ISO-8859-1(5)01:42
Jemtmcphail: Might be wrong though01:42
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mcphailJemt: then use that instead01:42
korhalfSWAT: for x in `cat dir`; do; lame $x $x; done;01:42
dooglustonyyarusso: you don't need 2 installations, just 2 profiles.  run "firefox -P" (or was it '-p'?) to see the profile dialog01:42
mjrJemt, Windows actually natively uses utf-16 in its filesystems01:42
korhalfSWAT: i think i put too many semicolons but its something like that.01:43
Toma-debfoster anyone?01:43
borkorhalf: cat on dir won't work01:43
Jemtmjr: Ok, great. Thanks :)01:43
tonyyarussodooglus: Good point.01:43
korhalfSWAT: that should basically iterate through the directory full of mp3s, and then encode them with the same name but at 12801:43
mjrbut that's irrelevant, it should be converted to utf-8 at the filesystem driver layer01:43
korhalfbor: it wont?01:43
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korhalfin that case use ls.01:43
korhalfSWAT: for x in `ls dir`; do; lame $x $x; done;01:43
mjr(or some other charset, but utf-8 is the sanest choice)01:43
dooglusSWAT: for i in *; do lame "$i" "$i"; done01:43
SanuskaWill someone PLEASE help me? I keep getting "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" then something like "ID "X" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes"01:43
SWAThehehe, thanks korhalf and dooglus01:43
JemtBRB - needs to restart X01:43
SanuskaX being whatever number01:43
borSWAT: for f in /path/to/dir/*.mp3; do lame -b 192 $x $x.player; done01:43
korhalfdooglus: okay there, you got it down lol01:43
doogluskorhalf: it's best not to `ls` - that will break if files have spaces in their names01:44
SWATand bor thanks :)01:44
korhalfbor: he wants 12801:44
korhalfdooglus: i dont do much bash scripting myself, but ill remember that, thanks :)01:44
sethkSWAT, dooglus lame should take a list of files.  So the loop is not necessary01:44
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Blejdfiztubotu: tell Blejdfizt about w32codecs01:44
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borsethk: no, lame takes an input and an output file01:44
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korhalfexactly, i think you HAVE to iterate through the items.01:45
varsendaggerok this is weired i have firefox right and it opend up a really old user profile and i try to open my regular one and it sais it is in use, does anyone know what is going on?01:45
korhalfvarsendagger: yes, it's in use.01:45
westymatthey mjr01:45
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westymattcan i apt-get gcc?01:45
korhalfwestymatt: Uh, i think you have gcc by default.01:46
varsendaggerhow do i make it not inuse and then open it up again01:46
westymattnew debian user sorry for dumb question01:46
korhalfwestymatt: and why are you compiling things anyway? unless of course, you're a programmer01:46
westymattits not in the $PATH01:46
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JemtThanks for all your help. Changing iocharset in fstab really helped. I now have support for danish characters :D01:46
korhalfvarsendagger: killall instances of firefox and restart.01:46
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JemtUbuntu rules :)01:46
mcphailwestymatt: apt-get build-essential01:46
sethkvarsendagger, do ps aux | grep firefox.    there is probably an old instance running01:46
korhalfmcphail: damn, said it before i could01:46
westymattyeah i just did that01:46
westymattwall all is in it?01:46
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westymattgcc and glibc?01:46
varsendaggerkorhalf, yeahh i tried that01:46
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mcphailkorhalf: ;)01:46
lewwyhi guys01:46
sethkvarsendagger, there may be a leftover lock file01:47
mcphailJemt: enjoy01:47
westymattwhat all in the build essential package ?01:47
westymattboth gcc and glibc?01:47
SanuskaGuys/Girls I nreally need help with this "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" error01:47
korhalfvarsendagger: id advise just rebooting, it'd probably be faster to do that then to find the offending process.01:47
SWATbor, he's whining about not finding .player :-/01:47
mcphailwestymatt: yes01:47
westymattthanks appreciated01:47
sethkSanuska, you get that message doing what?01:47
Jemtmcphail: :)01:47
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SanuskaI installed Ub, rebooted01:48
SanuskaIt went through installing and extracting some more files01:48
SanuskaThen got that01:48
SanuskaAnd ti's been on it even since01:48
westymattthank you guys very much got my stuff01:48
SanuskaJust trying to exec that01:48
varsendaggerwestymatt, stick to .deb packages for a bit and then come back, what are you trying to install01:48
korhalfwestymatt: no problem01:48
korhalfvarsendagger: yeah i recommended that too, theres no need to compile when you have apt :)01:48
dooglusSanuska: does it say /sbin/getty?  or sbin/getty?01:48
SanuskaUh..lemme go check01:48
Toma-so no-one can gimme help with debfoster? EVEN those that suggested using it in the first place?01:49
korhalfunless of course you're going after some obscure packages that arent in the repository01:49
sethkSanuska, what is trying to exec?  Do you get text on the screen during boot, and the last line says something about getty?01:49
dooglusToma-: what's up?01:49
varsendaggertrue story01:49
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dooglusToma-: did you see the 2 lines I wrote to you 7 minutes ago?01:49
Toma-cant get it to remove a specific package, eg.. xubuntu-desktop. it just starts going thru my whole system of debs01:49
SanuskaSethk: Yes, after booting "* cannot execute "/sbin/getty""01:49
mcphailOn the subject of compiling, has anyone been able to build Cinelerra under amd64?01:49
Toma-dooglus: possibly not, im in a term window and using centreicq :(01:50
sethkSanuska, sounds like the install didn't complete, and libraries are missing01:50
Toma-cli irc sux.01:50
dooglusToma-: it needs to know which ones you want to keep and which ones you don't.  if you don't tell it that, how can it know which packages should be removed?01:50
korhalfToma-: i use centericq for msn and what not, but NOT irc01:50
korhalfToma-: thats for irssi01:50
dooglusToma-: so you just run "debfoster" without arguments, say "y" to ubuntu-desktop and "p" to xubuntu-desktop.01:50
dooglusToma-: use your judgement for the other questions - if unsure, you can 's' to skip the question or '?' to see a description of the package01:50
SanuskaSethk: Just try reinstalling?01:50
sethkSanuska, you can boot a rescue cd or a live cd and investigate, or reinstall01:50
monkeymullethmm, not sure about debfoster, cos when i install xubuntu it said extra 100MB now purging it is 360MB01:50
Toma-ok01:50
sethkSanuska, you might get the same result, but sure, try the reinstall before we do the hard things01:50
SanuskaSethk: I'll try reinstalling, thanks01:50
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dooglusToma-: it's worth going through the list and answering the questions.  you only have to answer each question once - debfoster will remember what you tell it.01:51
lewwydoes libgtk-2.0 have reverse compatibility with libgtk-1.2?01:51
Toma-ok then. :( ive only get... 1200 packages or something01:51
Seveaslewwy, no01:51
Toma-:P :(01:51
monkeymulletdoes ubuntu need acpi-support?01:51
dooglusToma-: then next time you run it, after a week or so, it will ask you about the stuff you've installed since the last time.  stuff you probably installed, played with and forgot about.01:51
Seveasmonkeymullet, yes01:51
lewwydamn!01:51
mcphaillewwy: not much01:51
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monkeymulletdebfoster wants to purge it01:52
Seveasmonkeymullet, when debfoster is done, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:52
dooglusToma-: if you say 'y' to ubuntu-desktop that will stop it asking about any of the packages which are installed by default.01:52
lewwySeveas, mcphail , I was trying to install cedega time demo, and it doesnt work01:52
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dooglusToma-: it only asks about packages which nothing depends upon.01:52
lewwycuz it needs libgtk-1.201:52
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Seveaslewwy, then install it :)01:52
lewwyand libgtk 1.2 isnt on the repositry :(01:52
Toma-ahh k. is there a way to skip to ubuntu-desktop first?01:52
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dooglusToma-: also, instead of saying 'n', always say 'p' - that removes the package AND anything which is only kept because that package requires it.01:52
Seveas!info libgtk1.201:52
westymattjust a quick question01:52
ubotulibgtk1.2: (The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-17build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 817 kB, Installed size: 1768 kB01:52
Seveasthere it is :)01:53
westymatti tried to login to superuser01:53
lewwylol01:53
mikewhy, when I sudo gedut sources.list, do i get a gtk-warning, cannor open display?01:53
Toma-dooglus yeh i got that much01:53
dooglusToma-: it will ask about ubuntu-desktop before it asks about anything which is required by ubuntu-desktop01:53
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mikeedi*01:53
westymatti can't failed login01:53
lewwywell then again, it cant find kubuntu-desktop01:53
Toma-dooglus, btw, thanks a bunch :D01:53
korhalf!tell westymatt about root01:53
frogzoo!tell westymatt about sudo01:53
lewwyits a tad suss01:53
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westymattbut when gnome asks for a root password it takes it01:53
Seveasmike, run that as normal user, not as root01:53
korhalffrogzoo: dammmit :P01:53
westymatti just used sudo and that worked fine01:53
dooglusToma-: only if you say 'n' to ubuntu-desktop will it start asking about the dependancies of ubuntu-desktop.01:53
korhalfwestymatt: you can use sudo -i to get a shell, or sudo bash01:53
SeveasNOT sudo bash01:53
dooglus(and if you say 'p' to ubuntu-desktop, you'll end up with a very empty, unbootable system!01:53
dooglus)01:53
Seveasthat is dangerous01:53
korhalfSeveas: nah :)01:54
mikeSeveas, no luck01:54
korhalfSeveas: then passwd01:54
dooglusToma-: I'll shut up now.01:54
monkeymulletwouldnt it leave a server install01:54
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westymattthanks guys you have been most helpful01:54
korhalfSeveas: so i've used easyubuntu and sudo bash, my system should be broken by now lol01:54
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Seveasmonkeymullet, it would, except if you say 'p' to ubuntu-base too :)01:54
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dooglusmonkeymullet: I guess it would ask about ubuntu-base next - I'm not sure though, 'cos doesn't ubuntu-desktop depend on ubuntu-base?01:54
Seveaskorhalf, I wouldn't be surprised01:54
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Seveasdooglus, no01:55
sethkFor something to be inadvisable, it doesn't have to break something each and every time you do it.01:55
monkeymulletit asked xubuntu, then ubuntu then kubuntu01:55
varsendaggerwhat is ubuntu base?01:55
monkeymulletthe base packages of ubuntu01:55
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bob_if (grub bootloader defaults to ubuntu) then (how do I change the default to load windoze)?  i.e. can you edit grub defaults?01:55
lewwywhy do i have only one repo in synaptic...01:55
frogzoovarsendagger: it a meta package - and its used to track distro upgrades, for instance01:56
monkeymulletthanks for all ur help. Going to purge everthing now and hope apt-get sorts it all out01:56
frogzoobob_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst & then run 'sudo grub-install /dev/hdx'01:56
bob_tks much frog01:56
jax0mhttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7571/dscf07275js.jpg | http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/3506/dscf07284ex.jpg | http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3392/dscf07298uz.jpg01:57
jax0mis she a hottie?01:57
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mikewhat group should I make myself so I can edit sources.list in gedit without it being read only?01:57
frogzoojax0m: -> #ubuntu-offtopic :p01:58
raphinkuse sudo mike01:58
korhalfmike: it'smeant to only be written to by root.01:58
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frogzooSeveas beat me to it...01:58
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fr500mike gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list01:59
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Toma-yay :D had to completely remove xfce and kde to get my gnome back working! horray for untested/conflicting deb!02:00
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frogzoomike: ls -l /etc/sources.list02:00
aTypicalHey, all.  Is there a place where I can download a user guide in .pdf or .odt format?02:01
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Toma-woot :D i win!02:02
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M_Cheevygetting ready to install onto a sata raid0 array made up of a pair of seagate 80gb 7200 hds.. I've set up a 10gb partition for linux which will be used mostly for net'ing and music/video editing ... trying to decide best fs for this... should I go jfs, xfs or reiserfs? (cpu 2x2000+ amd athlons, 1gb pc2100 reg ecc, sil_3114 sata raid)02:02
mustard5aTypical, not that I know of02:02
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stef65M_Cheevy: Complex question, I'd use reiser on a soft raid-0 for performance...02:03
dooglusToba: I've installed both kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop and my GNOME still works.  I wonder what your problem was?02:04
M_Cheevystef: I rarely throw out easy questions ;)02:04
Tobauhwhat?02:04
Tobaheh02:04
M_Cheevystef: is reiserfs still experimental?02:04
Tobatab mistake I see :P02:04
sethkM_Cheevy, I strongly recommend against reiser for stability reasons02:04
fr500!xubuntu02:04
ubotuxubuntu is, like, totally, Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu02:04
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M_Cheevysethk: so it is still experimental02:04
sethkM_Cheevy, I've seen several lost reiser partitions in the last couple of weeks.02:04
Steven__hello all02:04
dooglusM_Cheevy: I keep hearing that reiserfs is flaky, but I use it exclusively and have never had a problem with it.02:04
sethkM_Cheevy, depends on whom you ask02:04
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M_Cheevysethl: thanks for the heads up.. experience counts02:05
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aTypicalThanks,  mustard5.02:05
dooglusM_Cheevy: I wouldn't recomment reiser4 - that's still experimental, but reiserfs itself seems fine to me02:05
M_Cheevydooglus: bugger.. okay... one for, one against... ;)02:05
mcphailsethk: if you're using RAID0, i assume the data isn't critical anyway?02:05
mcphailsorry M_Cheevy02:05
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M_Cheevydooglus: that's for the clarification...02:05
dooglusM_Cheevy: ext3 apparently has better journaling.  if you're not too worried about speed and space efficiency, go for ext302:05
Steven__Can someone tell me how to repair the boot loader? from the cd 5.1002:06
mustard5aTypical, I can only find web pages..I've just browsed over the online help and I can't find any download options in those formats02:06
M_Cheevymcphail: have my archives backed up to an old PATA hd... I sync it about every month02:06
sethkmcphail, no, hardware RAID just promises that what you told it to store is stored.  If reiser tells it to store the wrong thing, then it very reliably stores the wrong thing02:06
stef65M_Cheevy: just google for it, there's lots of benchmarking and comparisons out there...02:06
aTypicalmustard5, I didn't see any either so I figured I'd see if anyone had created something.  Thank you for looking, though.02:06
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sethkmcphail, so RAID doesn't insulate you against file system instability02:06
mustard5aTypical, np02:06
M_Cheevystef: that's what got me down to the three I asked about ;)02:06
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mcphailsethk: yes, but is reiser more of a risk than RAID0?02:07
M_Cheevysethk: RAID0 doesn't02:07
stef65sethk: raid-0 even worsens it... never go raid 0 w/o backups02:07
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dooglusM_Cheevy: the thing with ext3 is that it uses exactly the same filesystem structures as ext2, which is old and rock solid.  It just adds a journal.02:07
sethkstef65, true02:07
M_Cheevystef: that's why god made Ghost ;)02:07
sethkmcphail, different types of risk.  I really don't have enough data to quantify the risk02:07
sethkM_Cheevy, with linux you don't need ghost.  you have an operating system.02:07
M_Cheevydooglus: yes, but it's a dog performance wise...02:07
sethkM_Cheevy, dd will make image backups for you.02:07
M_Cheevysethk: I always image my drives... especially the winblows ones.. saves a hell of a lot of time02:08
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sethkM_Cheevy, I do as well.02:08
stef65M_Cheevy: no, u misunderstood something there.... this was just the yellow danger...02:08
sethkmcphail, rsync is also a good tool02:08
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M_Cheevysethk: I like the one-stop-shop nature of ghost02:08
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sethkM_Cheevy, I backup all partition types from linux.  it makes absolutely no difference what format the data happens to be in.02:09
Steven__Can someone tell me how to repair the boot loader? from the cd 5.1002:09
sethkM_Cheevy, so dd here is much more general than ghost02:09
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sethkSteven__, you can run the grub utility, if your config file is correct02:09
sethkSteven__, what happened?02:09
M_Cheevysethk: I know, I've been playing with linux for over 10yrs, but I have my reasons for liking ghost.. mostly the one floppy solution and the portability02:10
mcphaildd backups can take a long time02:10
stef65Steven__: get a console with 'gksu gnome-terminal' and issue 'grub' ...02:10
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sethkM_Cheevy, the point is, you have a bootable cd (or floppy if you prefer), so ghost is in no way more portable.  It is less portable.02:10
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M_Cheevysethk: granted with usb drives that's less of an issue but... I'm an old dog and have my favourite bowl and blanket as it were ;)02:10
sethkM_Cheevy, that's fine, but it isn't more portable.02:10
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Steven__stef65, I daul boot this laptop and had to reload windows fin bill G02:11
bob_/boot/grub/menu.lst    file lines preceeded with either # or ##     is ## a comment and # an executable line?02:11
M_Cheevyseth: I was just admitting my argument was a bit spurious02:11
sethkbob_, no, anything with # at the beginning is a comment02:11
sethkbob_, doesn't matter how many #02:11
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bob_what lang is that?   perl?02:11
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stef65Steven__: Then U need a boot-disk / CD with grub on it and boot from there02:11
sethkbob_, no, grub has its own configuration syntax02:11
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aaron_hi everyone02:12
bob_sounds like a grubby solution    lol02:12
M_Cheevyso reiserfs is okay, reiser4 is not as okay?02:12
sethkSteven__, boot a rescue cd or the first install cd, get a shell, run the grub utility02:12
KyralReiserFS is good02:12
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aaron_does any one know how to log onto the schooltool thing?02:12
sethkM_Cheevy, at this point I would wait until the latest reiser problems shake out.02:12
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Mabus06Can someone reccomend to me a card I could get for about 200 bucks that would work well with linux?02:12
aaron_I tried the default log in n ame02:12
sethkM_Cheevy, reiser 4 was supposed to be the fix.02:12
aaron_but it wouldn't work02:12
zenwhenI use reiserFS and have never had issues with it02:12
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Mabus06Video card that is of ocurse02:12
sethkM_Cheevy, and it is apparently better, but there are still problems.02:12
aaron_eh?02:13
Steven__ok off the cd what or how do I get to the grub utility?02:13
M_Cheevysethk: okay, that narrows it down to jfs and xfs... and that appears to be an issue of average file sizes...02:13
aaron_the grub comes with the installation cd02:13
sethkSteven__, once you get a shell, it is usually in /sbin.  but just typing grub, it should be in the path and come up02:13
M_Cheevyaaron: too bad dmraid don't ;)02:13
C_J_Pronon-debian question (only place I can get decent support on GNOME):02:13
Steven__ok02:13
C_J_Prohttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/02:13
C_J_Proerm02:13
C_J_Prowait02:13
aaron_but does any one know how to get the log in for schooltool02:13
sethkSteven__, once you get the grub prompt, you need to enter a couple of commands.  You need to know your partition layout.02:13
aaron_?02:13
C_J_Prowrong thing02:13
C_J_ProWhen I run # gnome-session, both nautilus and gnome-panel crash when gnome loads.  Gnome-panel then keeps reloading and crashing02:13
C_J_Prothere02:14
aaron_any one?02:14
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aaron_does any one know?02:14
Steven__shit I will just re-install it that only takes 20min02:14
aaron_eh?02:14
mcphailC_J_Pro: i think it is because your 'enter' key is jammed down ;p02:14
aaron_no?02:14
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Steven__thanks everyone02:15
stef65Steven__: better invest this twenty minutes in reading the grub-docs02:15
aaron_does any one know?02:15
aaron_?02:15
aaron_?02:15
aaron_?02:15
trappistaaron_: if anyone does know, he has probably decided to forget since you started spamming the channel02:15
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M_Cheevywell, off I go to blow away the two weeks work it took to get debian installed.... here we go for ubuntu... shouldn't take as long (better online docs --hooray for wiki!)02:15
frogzooaaron_: C_J_Pro please don't spam - people have to share this channel02:16
aaron_alright02:16
aaron_well02:16
aaron_no one knows02:16
aaron_thanks anyways02:16
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nickrude!enter02:16
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!02:16
sethkM_Cheevy, I find ubuntu much more manageable for most situations.  Only on developer machines do I sometimes use debian itself.02:16
trappistI don't suppose anyone HAPPENS to know whether ubuntu's install kernel has "boot offboard chipsets first" support02:16
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aaron_o02:16
aaron_k02:16
aaron_haha02:16
nickrude;)02:16
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sethktrappist, I believe it does.  let me check.02:16
buliowww.audioscrobbler.com02:17
buliohow do I install XMMS plugin for it?02:17
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M_Cheevysethk: that's what I've been gathering... since I get paid to do my developing in winblows.. I'm happy to use linux as a hobby OS02:17
trappistsethk: I ask because when install kernels do that I have to boot with ide=reverse or I have a bad day02:17
DPadclearAnyone know how to set GNOME so that new windows don't appear over the current one?02:17
frogzooM_Cheevy: u need vmware :)02:17
sethktrappist, asus mobo?02:17
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trappistsethk: no, soyo02:18
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buliowww.audioscrobbler.com02:18
buliohow do I install XMMS plugin for it?02:18
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M_Cheevyfrogzoo: nah, prefer them to run native mode... vm's are still virtual... and not 100% native.. would you try to tweak the nv server for X in a VM??02:18
nickrudebulio, according to apt-cache search, it's in xmms-scrobbler02:19
bulioso apt-get install xmms-scrobbler?02:19
[yoshi] what prog plays dvd?02:19
nickrudebulio, yes02:19
buliohow do I search for these?02:19
sethktrappist, IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE is set to n, which I believe means that the secondary ide will not be used.  But I'll have to double check that I have the correct config parameter02:19
DPadclear[yoshi] : vlc, totem, mplayer, xine...02:19
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nickrude[yoshi] , mplayer, xine-ui, totem-xine and vlc ...02:19
Mabus06Can anyone please reccomend to me a really good gaming video card that uses PCI and not PCI-E or AGP?02:19
[yoshi] ok cool.02:20
[yoshi] thnx02:20
mikemike@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ sudo gedit sources.list02:20
mike(gedit:8270): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:02:20
mikewhy?02:20
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nickrude[yoshi] , the first three need the w32codecs, take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for getting them02:20
M_Cheevyfrogzoo: when all is said and done I'll have a quad boot... win2k adv srv for most of my work, win2k3 SBS to mirror my job environment, xp for games, and ubuntu because I just can't get off the linux jones...02:20
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buliohow do I change xmms skin?02:20
nickrudebulio, apt-cache search scrobbler is what I used02:20
DPadclearbulio: ALT-S.02:20
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sethktrappist, no, it is BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD, and it is disabled in the install kernel02:21
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trappistsethk: thanks, I can't seem to identify the parameter02:21
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[yoshi] thnx02:21
trappisterr02:21
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trappistsethk: thanks!02:21
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M_Cheevywell... byebye debian, hello ubuntu02:21
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bulioI have no skins02:21
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sethktrappist, I have trouble remembering that one, which is strange.  OFFBOARD shouldn't be hard to remember.  :)02:22
everton137Hi, did someone use gnokii here for mobiles? Im using it, I configured but device /dev/ttyUSB002:22
everton137 wasn't created. Any tips?02:22
DPadclearbulio: Install the skins in ~/.xmms/Skins02:22
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nickrudehttp://www.xmms.org/skins.php <-- bulio02:22
buliok02:22
mikemike@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ sudo gedit sources.list02:22
mike(gedit:8270): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:02:22
borSWAT: oops, got it working (I used 'f' for holding the filename, but used 'x' as the variable in the iteration)?  if not, it may be reasonable to place the encoded mp3s for the player into a separate directory:  mkdir /path/to/new_dir ; cd /path/to/dir-with-mp3s ; for f in *.mp3; do lame -b 192 "$f" "/path/to/new_dir/$f"; done02:22
mikesorry to seem spammy, but why?02:22
buliothanks guys02:22
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nickrudemike, it still ran gedit, right?02:23
mikenope02:23
sethkmike, X not running?  running gedit as a user other than the user that started X?02:23
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mcphailmike: try sudo gedit sources.list --display=:002:23
BieZtk mensen ^^ de ubern44b is terug ;)02:23
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BieZteen vraag over live bookmarks van firefox :02:24
borSWAT: and sorry, you should use -b 128 of course :)02:24
BieZtkan iedere rss feed daardoor gezien worden ?02:24
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sethkmike, DISPLAY not set ... just so mcphail thinking the same thing02:24
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sethks/so/saw/   uggg02:24
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fr500mcphail, press alt f2, that'll give you a run dialog, then type gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list02:24
BieZten hoe add ik de rss-feed van de comments van mijn wordpress blog ? http://biezt.orions-stuff.com ?02:24
mikeawesome, thanks guys02:24
TheAttacksit's obvious ubuntu is popular when there are so many people in the IRC haha02:24
nickrude!nl02:24
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.02:24
fr500mcphail, that does it in one whole step02:24
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nickrudeI think :)02:25
BieZtoops wrong chan ... supposed to be in -nl :(02:25
[yoshi] anyone know anything about acidrip?02:25
calcTheAttacks: maybe the only people who use ubuntu are also in this channel? ;)02:25
[yoshi] like how to use it02:25
TheAttacksyeah, i know02:26
[yoshi] i load then what?02:26
[yoshi] whats a good width and height02:26
[yoshi] ?02:26
sethk[yoshi] , 9 feet by 12 feet02:27
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[yoshi] lol yea sure thing02:27
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sethk[yoshi] , 2 miles by 4 miles?02:27
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[yoshi] yo the attacks can you give me some pointerS?02:28
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sethk[yoshi] , I guess nobody here knows at the moment.02:29
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Nytryxok how do i acces a shared file on a windows box from ubuntu?02:29
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Phoenix1701Hey folks!02:29
sethkNytryx, step one if you haven't already is to install samba and co02:29
viscountcan anyone help, im trying to touch a file for a backup script `touch backup_$(date +%D)` but it fails with "touch: cannot touch `backup_12/14/05': No such file or directory"02:29
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[yoshi] great he left02:29
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Nytryxsamba yes co no02:29
sethkviscount, you can't use slashes in filenames02:29
Nytryxco?02:29
Nytryxsethk02:29
sethkNytryx, smbfs, associated utilities.02:29
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sethkNytryx, probably installed as a dependency02:29
viscountsethk, omg, i knew that!02:29
viscountsethk, thx man :)02:30
Phoenix1701I'm in the process of downloading Kubuntu, because I find KDE's GUI to be somewhat superior to Gnome's.  However, there are programs that I want to run that require GTK2+; am I in trouble here, or does Kubuntu come with GTK?02:30
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Nytryxok so if i installed samba than i got it02:30
Nytryxno?02:30
Squee-Dmy format during install is taking forever. parted server is still running and when i tail /var/log/partman i see OUT: 23 writing per-group metadata02:30
sethkNytryx, should be, yes02:30
KyralPhoenix1701: if it's needed it will be installed02:30
sethkNytryx, I do it from the command line with mount -t smbfs02:30
sethkNytryx, there are GUI tools also, I believe.02:30
Phoenix1701Kyral: Ah, okay.  So first time I try to install a Gnomish package, I'll get...  just GTK, or the entirety of Gnome?02:30
KyralPhoenix1701: just what it needed02:31
sethkPhoenix1701, as much as is necessary for what you are installing02:31
Nytryxok what are the gui tools02:31
Squee-Dwhy would creating an ext3 FS take so long?02:31
viscountsethk, touch backup_$(date +%F) now that works, cool02:31
Phoenix1701Awesome.  :)  This is raising my expectations, you know...  Ubuntu is beginning to look like Linux that actually works.02:31
deluxe___anybody tried ubuntu a voodoo envy a:53802:31
sethkNytryx, there is shared folders on the system/administration menu02:31
Phoenix1701I've never seen the word "aesthetics" on a Linux news page before.02:32
KuyaedzSquee-D: I've had installations kinda 'freeze' during that part of the installation.  Have you tried again after a rebot?02:32
Nytryxthank you02:32
natexSquee-D, is it checking for bad blocks?02:32
frogzooSquee-D: how long is too long? 10mins for 200gb is not unheard of02:32
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Squee-Dfrogzoo 40 minutes for <80 ?02:32
frogzooSquee-D: k, mebbe you have a problem - check cables for starters02:33
Kuyaedzcan someone point me to some reading for setting up ubuntu-server as a central box for a windows Lan?02:33
Squee-DKuyaedz im one of those reboot as a last option people02:33
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Squee-Dnatex how can one tell if its scanning while mk'in ?02:33
KuyaedzSquee-D: of course, I agree.02:33
frogzooKuyaedz: -> samba.org02:33
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Squee-Dfrogzoo yeah im concerned that its an issue with the hpt chip (as mentioned earlier, im not using raid, just standard ide channel)02:34
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natexSquee-D, not sure. but you could make the fs before the installer tries.02:35
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Squee-Dnatex i may do that02:35
Nytryxok so thats not it it lets me share my files not view shared ones on the other computer02:35
natexSquee-D, then during install, don't have the install program format the drive02:35
Nytryxhow do i get to the shares on another system02:35
Squee-Dyeah not a bad plan02:35
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natexSquee-D, you know how to use mkfs.ext3 to make the fs?02:36
Squee-Dyah02:36
Squee-Di've done LFS and Gentoo several times02:37
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Squee-Dmost things im pretty adept at rtfm or use-your-brain02:37
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natexgreat. Ubuntu is much less hassle :)02:37
logical_markHey I need a filesystem to use that will give me the ability to read/write from linux and windows as well as store files larger than 4 gb02:38
Squee-DI need a million dollars.02:38
tonyyarussological_mark: Does Fat32 have a file size limit?02:38
Squee-D:)02:38
natexlogical_mark, vfat?02:38
Kzar_frSquee-D, do you deserve it ?02:39
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Squee-DKzar_fr oh absolutely02:39
GodRight.02:39
logical_marktonyyarusso: yeah it is 4gb02:39
Squee-Djust on sheer sexyness alone.02:39
logical_marknatex: I dont know what vfat is02:39
viscountHow do you wrap a line in bash, \ doesnt seem to work02:39
natexHey God, how about a new lappy for christmas?02:39
stef65logical_mark: no easy way... ntfs with captive, or ext2 withe windows ext2-fsd...02:39
Godnatex, hey, what Christmas has to do with me ?02:40
natexlogical_mark, vfat is fat32, sorry.02:40
viscountGod, indeed02:40
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natexGod, I thought you were Jesus's dad.02:40
logical_marknatex: I thought vfat had a filesize limit of 4 gb02:40
Godvfat is too fat for an healty hard drive02:40
natexlogical_mark, you are right.02:41
stef65vfat has indeed the 4GB limit02:41
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Godnatex, wtf ? I have no son. As long as Mary still virgin.02:41
logical_marknatex: well, I hate to have to install something on either machine. I would like for them to read nativly,02:41
natexlogical_mark, too bad windows can't play nice with others.02:42
Squee-D2 machines?02:42
Squee-Duse samba02:42
frogzoological_mark: send Bill a letter, asking him to kindly release the spec for NTFS02:42
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natexGod, reminds me of an Eddie Izzard bit.02:42
logical_markfrogzoo: I wanted to but am afraid that after buying windows pro I can't afford the stamp. And an email is in unprofessional for such a request :-(02:43
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Hentai^XPex2FS02:43
Hentai^XPor ex3fs02:44
Hentai^XPget the ifs driver for windows02:44
viscountI cant seem to find any line continuation marker for sh, i have a really long command and I'd rather be able to read it in a glance02:44
Squee-Dso why not reiser for / in ubuntu?02:44
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sethkviscount, backslash?02:44
Hentai^XPlogical_mark: got that?02:44
viscountsethk, it didnt seem to be working02:44
sethkviscount, works here.  how are you using it?02:44
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viscountsethk, hmm.. let me try some more02:45
surfdueis there a good iso burning software?02:45
surfduegui :)02:45
sethkviscount, I always put a space before the backslash02:45
[helpok in the terminal how do i navigate to something02:45
viscountsurfdue, k3b is pretty nice02:45
logical_markHentai^xp: Sorry I jsut saw it. I rely to much on nick highliting02:45
surfduek02:45
Hentai^XPhttp://www.fs-driver.org/02:45
surfduethanks02:45
sethksurfdue, k3b02:45
Hentai^XPlogical_mark: http://www.fs-driver.org/02:46
Hentai^XPthere02:46
Nytryxok why do i have to transfer file from one computer to another to use them via the network?02:46
Hentai^XPuse extfs02:46
logical_markHentai^xp: So I create a partition, ext3, and then windows will req it with that driver?02:46
Hentai^XPuse ext3fs02:46
natexsurfdue, graveman is a good one for gnome.02:46
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Hentai^XPlogical_mark: than you can mount it in windows with that driver and have read\write abilites02:46
Hentai^XPlogical_mark: and have files over 4gigs02:46
logical_markHentai^xp: what is the limit with ext3fs?02:47
sethkNytryx, for simple transfers I install cygwin in windows and use sftp02:47
[helpi am here  A directory called install_flash_player_7_linux is created. Navigate to this directory.02:47
aTypicalIs there a bot in this channel?  If so, what kind?02:47
[helphow do i navigate?02:47
surfduehey i am running a game in wine, except some of the games dll have caps in them, and the game calls them with no caps02:47
sethkNytryx, it's CLI, but works straight out of the box02:47
Hentai^XPlogical_mark: no idea02:47
surfduehow can i make caps not count on start of the game in wine?02:47
logical_markHentai^xp: thanks for the help02:47
Nytryxno not a transfer i want to use the file localy via the network02:47
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Squee-DNytryx i notice that sometimes with files launched from a samba share02:48
aTypical[help, either open a terminal window or open your home and then double click the flash folder.02:48
_jasonsurfdue, if you can't get an answer I would just rename all of your dll's to lowercase02:48
Squee-Donly in the case of a windows executable tho02:48
surfduek02:48
[helpcan some one help me?02:48
[help A directory called install_flash_player_7_linux is created. Navigate to this directory.02:48
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Hentai^XPlogical_mark: either that or use NTFS and only get read support in linux based OSes\well limited write support02:48
[helphow do i nav there02:48
aTypical[help, I just did02:48
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[helpoh02:48
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[helpoh i mean in the terminal02:49
aTypical[help, to where did you extract the flash folder?02:49
[helphomw02:49
[helphome02:49
aTypical[help, do you have a terminal window open?02:49
[helpyea02:49
JoeyDay|wguWill Ubuntu boot up without a keyboard, mouse, and monitor?02:49
[helpyes joey02:49
natexJoeyDay|wgu, of course.02:49
sethkNytryx, you can run NFS on the windows box, or samba on the linux box.  those are the two practical and free options02:50
aTypical[help, if you type ls it will show the contents of your current directory.  Do you see the flash folder?02:50
sethkNytryx, samba is a PITA but it is usually the best available option02:50
[helpyea02:50
[helpand other folders02:50
JoeyDay|wgunatex: Hm...02:50
[helpbut i need to be in that one right?02:50
aTypicaltype cd <the name of your flash directory>02:50
[helpah02:50
aTypical[help, not really.  I think you can run the file from outside.02:51
JoeyDay|wgunatex: Would it have a problem booting under different network conditions than where it was installed?02:51
Squee-Dsamba rocks imho. the only problem with samba is it has to emulate netbios :P02:51
[helpforgot the one02:51
[helpcd ls02:51
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JoeyDay|wguI guess I should quit asking questions and explain the situation.02:51
[helpim on a roll02:51
[help<,,-noob02:51
aTypical[help, so were we all at one point. :-)02:51
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JoeyDay|wguI installed Ubuntu on a computer while I was at work last night. I work in an IT Helpdesk and we have stations set up with monitor, keyboard and mouse and it makes it real easy to just hook up a tower and go to work.02:52
[helpERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the02:52
[help       Macromedia Flash Player installer.02:52
[help:(02:52
Squee-Di was born with a silver cpu in my mouth02:52
D1!java02:52
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:52
JoeyDay|wguAnyway, I got everything working so I could ssh into the box and then I shut it down and brought it home.02:52
D1!javadebs02:52
ubotuI guess javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"02:52
aTypical[help, bummer.  Still I'll bet someone has created a 64bit version of the flash player.  I'd suggest googling for it.02:52
[helpwhat do i do now?02:52
[helproger02:52
[helpbbl02:52
JoeyDay|wguI don't have a monitor, keyboard, or mouse at home (I just use my laptop here), but I figured it should work to just plug it in and then ssh into it.02:52
Squee-DaTypical i doubt it, it is closed source and its MM proprietry.02:52
JoeyDay|wguBut it won't accept the connection now.02:53
logical_markHey has anyone in here a suggestion for an FTP Client with a nice frontend02:53
silvertonwhere can I get w32codecs?02:53
Squee-Dif MM dont have a 64bit version you're prolly screwed :/02:53
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natexJoeyDay|wgu, the network is not configured properly02:53
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aTypical[help, with what Squee-D said I think you're out of luck. :-)02:53
ElitePetesilverton, sudo apt-get install w32codecs ?02:53
JoeyDay|wguAnd when I hit the power button it just shuts straight down. Before, from within Ubuntu, it was doing a graceful shut down (>30 seconds) when I hit the power button.02:53
mustard5!w32codecs02:53
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JoeyDay|wguSo because it's powering down so quickly I'm assuming it's not getting past a certain point in the bootup.02:54
aTypicalmustard5, you don't like the w32codecs?02:54
[helpDue to this, there is an ever expanding population of people, who instead of seeing Macromedia customer's content, are seeing nothing but broken plugin boxes.02:54
silvertonElitePete, maybe?  I did a search for w32, but it didn't return it02:54
[helplol02:54
mustard5ubotu: tell silverton about w32codecs02:54
Squee-D[help doesnt matter now, its all Adobe anyway02:54
Squee-DThey can rot in hell :(02:54
mustard5aTypical, no..I was getting a PM from ubotu :)02:54
[helpoh02:54
aTypicaloh.02:54
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rustyBOFHhi folks02:54
JoeyDay|wgunatex: So how do I fix how the network is set up? Will I need to hook up a monitor here to troubleshoot this, or is it something I can troubleshoot back at work?02:54
cyphasedoes anyone know the best 3D card for linux?02:54
aTypicalSquee-D, that just takes too much darn time to do.02:55
viscountcyphase, you mean specific card, or brand of cards02:55
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cyphasewith a decent price (not $1,000)02:55
cyphaseviscount, either02:55
mustard5silverton, did you get a PM from ubotu?02:55
silvertonmustard5, eys02:56
The_BakerJoeyDAy|wqu: does it beep on boot?  some computers require a keyboard to be attached to POST.02:56
silvertoner, yes02:56
mustard5silverton, k02:56
aTypicalmustard5, what kind of bot is ubotu?02:56
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JoeyDay|wguThe_Baker: That's exactly what I thought. I brought a keyboard and mouse home from work to try that, and it's still not working.02:56
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viscountcyphase, nvidia works very well for a brand, for a specific card i use a FX5500 and it works well enough for me02:56
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to set it so opera doesn't cancel my downloads when i navigate away from the page02:56
cyphaseoh..02:56
sethkJoeyDay|wgu, in the same direction, newer machines have a BIOS option saying whether to halt on error02:56
cyphasei know nVidia..02:56
cyphasei thought you meant a brand of nVidia card02:56
JoeyDay|wguI guess I should've brought a monitor. That would've been the smart thing to do.02:56
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sethkJoeyDay|wgu, some have stop, stop except keyboard, and ignore all02:56
mustard5aTypical, a blootbot I think he is called02:56
The_BakerJoeyDay:wgu:  i also had an old nvidia card that required a monitor to be attached to boot.  firmware upgrade fixed that.02:57
aTypicalElitePete, I've never heard of opera doing that.02:57
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cyphaseviscount, and 3D works well?02:57
aTypicalmustard5, thanks.02:57
ElitePeteatypical it does..02:57
JoeyDay|wguThe_Baker: I've got an nvidia card too. Riva TNT.02:57
viscountcyphase, yep, nvidia cards work well for 3d02:57
JoeyDay|wguThe_Baker: I wonder if that's the problem.02:57
cyphasenot all of them02:57
cyphasemine for instance02:58
The_BakerJoeyDay:wgu:  it was either that or a TNT.  i forget.02:58
The_Bakerdoh!02:58
cyphase0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)02:58
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cyphasemine works at first..02:58
cyphaseprefectly..02:58
Nytryxwhats the key to force quit a program02:59
cyphaseviscount, but about 15-25 minutes after boot, it freezes02:59
viscountNytryx, ctrl-c02:59
The_BakerJoeyDay|wgu:  think it was the TNT.  you have another card laying around?  maybe onboard video?02:59
Nytryxnot working!02:59
Nytryxahhh reset button!02:59
_jasonNytryx, ?03:00
freakazoid3333cyphase have u checked to make sure the heat and fan are secure03:00
freakazoid3333heatsink03:00
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viscountNytryx, or if you are trying to kill a gui, go ctrl-F2 then type 'xkill' then click the gui to kill it03:00
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Oberanyway to get amorak to play mp3s? i installed the one from the universal repot but still has no player for it. and forums did not help much03:00
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JoeyDay|wguAha, I hadn't plugged the keyboard into the right port...03:00
JoeyDay|wguI had plugged it in without looking at the back.03:01
JoeyDay|wguI guess that's what I get...03:01
The_Bakerjoeyday:wgu:  that could to it too :)03:01
JoeyDay|wguTrying to boot again, we'll see if it works this time.03:01
sethkJoeyDay|wgu, dumb machine.  it should have known what you meant.03:01
JoeyDay|wguIt still beeped.03:01
[help:'(03:01
JoeyDay|wguDoes it always beep, or does that indicate an error?03:01
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freakazoid3333single beep is normal03:02
n0dldoes anyone here know a good samba tutorial?03:02
sethkJoeyDay|wgu, depends on the BIOS, most have a single beep03:02
The_Bakerjoeyday:wgu:  one beep is generally good.  might depend on your motherboard tho.03:02
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n0dlim looking to start a samba printer server for my school's computer club03:02
JoeyDay|wguThat's what I thought.03:02
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freakazoid3333its when u hear a series of beepa you've got problems03:02
Nytryxok whats the fastest OS I can put on a system with 224mhz?03:03
natexn0dl, if you're willing to pay about 20 bucks. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/03:03
freakazoid3333beeps03:03
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ElitePeteNyryx maybe dsl?03:03
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can-o-wormsdoes anyone know anything about udev? i need to add permissions for directfb's fusion devices but the file's format seems completely different from the line in the fusion README03:03
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freakazoid3333damn small linux?03:03
ElitePeteyes03:03
n0dlnatrex: thanks ill keep that book in mind03:03
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[helpc ya03:03
natexn0dl, actually you can read alot of it for free at the link I gave you03:04
Nytryxi liked that come to think about it freakazoid333303:04
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gpmhi. i need to reinstall a kernel (because of a yaird bug) and i can't really boot into my system until i do. however, if i try running a livecd and chrooting and installing the kernel that way, it won't let me. anyone have a clue as to what i might do?03:04
natexgpm, what do you mean "it won't let me"?03:04
linkdcd /home/linkd03:04
Nytryxok kubuntu up and running on the 500mhz how do i get the kubunut boot screen?03:05
linkdoops03:05
linkdtoo many windows03:05
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The_Bakerjoeyday:wgu:  are you familiar with ethereal?  if it is booting, you might be able to capture some network traffic as the card initializes.  that could help give an idea how far it is booting up.03:05
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gpmnatex, yaird complains it can't open /proc/bus/input/devices03:06
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gpmnatex, therefore, no initrd...no go03:06
JoeyDay|wguI'm in.03:06
JoeyDay|wguHm...03:06
The_Bakercool.03:06
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JoeyDay|wguI had to ssh in using the local network IP address.03:07
JoeyDay|wguThat's not what I wanted.03:07
JoeyDay|wguI set this thing up with a dyndns address.03:07
JoeyDay|wguSo I could shell into it from anywhere using the address, not the local IP.03:07
JoeyDay|wguSo it's not updating for some reason,03:07
JoeyDay|wguOh well, I'm in now so I can troubleshoot that.03:07
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mike_I'm a rookie and would like to upgrade firefox to 1.5.03:08
Nytryxwhen upgrading to kde 3.5 i get a depenice error that one of the packages could not be installed why?03:08
nickrude!firefox1.503:08
ubotunickrude: Are you smoking crack?03:08
natexgpm, you need to mount (to /mnt)the partition to be chrooted, 'mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc03:08
mike_yes, nick03:08
JoeyDay|wguCan anyone recommend a good dyndns updater client?03:08
tonyyarussonickrude: Try !firefox1503:08
benplautflight 2!03:08
benplautw00t!03:08
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mike_it doesn't seem to be on the ubuntu servers03:08
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nickrude!firefox1503:08
ubotufirefox15 is, like, see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org03:08
JoeyDay|wguApparently the one I have is either not configured properly or simply doesn't work.03:08
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sethkNytryx, a depenice error?  hey, this is a family channel.  :)03:09
JoeyDay|wguWill that give me the actuall Firefox logo?03:09
nickrudeI wish those factoids were a little more stable03:09
Nytryxwhat lol03:09
sethkNytryx, which package?03:09
JoeyDay|wguI'm assuming Ubuntu has to use the generic looking globe thing because it's a custom build?03:09
Nytryxhang on ill tell you03:09
sethkNytryx, there are some old packages that conflict with the current ones03:09
nickrudeJoeyDay|wgu, yes, and yes03:09
sethkNytryx, so you just deselect the obsolete package and that should go away03:09
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natexgpm, also, before mounting proc, mount devfs 'mount -t devfs devfs /mnt/dev03:09
Nytryxhumm so deselect to one thats giving me the error03:09
Nytryxok ill try that03:10
Schuylerhey folks, has anyone tried using SSH port forwarding (ssh -L) with Breezy?03:10
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slyjabwhen i try to update breezy i get the following error: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:10
slyjabE: Unable to lock the download directory03:10
slyjabcan anyone help03:10
Schuylerit seems to be broken in a way I've never seen on any other Linux.03:10
naliothslyjab: use sudo or close all running instances of apt03:10
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ardchoilleIs there a site that has a huge list of rss feeds? I need more feeds :)03:10
sethkNytryx, turn off the obsolete one.  if the obsolete one appears first in the window, then the correct one will trigger the error03:10
ardchoilleNeed Ubuntu rss feeds too03:10
Nytryxso do what?03:11
gpmnatex, now it complains about /sys/block03:11
slyjabnalioth ...sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?03:11
natexgpm, which distro?03:11
sethkNytryx, usually it will be obvious.  you'll have   xyz   and xyz.1.2303:11
sethkNytryx, something of that sort03:11
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sethkNytryx, usually the one with the version number is older.03:12
buliohow do I install adblock?03:12
gpmnatex, pure debian. but #debian isn't helping03:12
buliowhats it called03:12
gpm:-(03:12
Nytryxhumm ok trying03:12
sethkNytryx, but that's not a rule so use a bit of intelligence03:12
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VictorIhow do you get grub to relist the grub.conf file and set it into the mbr block?03:12
bulioguys?03:12
JoeyDay|wguI'm a total linux n00b. What can I use to edit a file from the command line?03:12
gpmJoeyDay|wgu, nano03:12
VictorIvi03:12
buliosudo gedit03:12
gpmJoeyDay|wgu, (or anything)03:12
JoeyDay|wgugedit works from a command line?03:12
Nytryxjoeyday|wgu nano03:12
nickrudebulio, use the one under tools ->extensions->get more extensions from inside firefox03:12
natexgpm, instead of mounting devfs, try 'mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev'03:12
buliok03:12
sethkgpm, #debian is so much fun. :)  unfortunately for repository/package specific stuff, they are quite different (ubuntu & debian)03:12
VictorIvi works great and every unix flavor has it03:13
TraceGreenhello, who know how to forbid mouse and keyboard event in linux? that's say, forbid user using mouse and keyboard.03:13
VictorIso how can I relist grub to set a new config into the mbr block?03:13
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netcrusher88how is hfs+ support under ubuntu?03:13
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VictorInetcrusher88: like any other linux kernel..the same03:13
frogzooJoeyDay|wgu: emacs is also good03:13
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slyjabnalioth: sudo gives me the same error.... how do i close any running instances of apt03:14
netcrusher88wow, that helps, like, r/w? better than ntfs?03:14
johnnybezakhey guys is there a /proc entry that will tell me what motherboard i have03:14
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gpmnatex, ok...now what?03:14
Nytryxok i get could not mark all packages for insatllation or upgrade kdesdk is not going to be installed03:14
nickrudeVictorI, if you're satisfied thay your  menu.lst is good, sudo grub-install writes the mbr03:14
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Phoenix1701slyjab: sudp killall apt* ought to do it...03:14
natexgpm, 'mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc'03:14
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Phoenix1701s/sudp/sudo/03:14
coldCan limewire be apt-get?03:15
sethkVictorI, back up your /boot directory first03:15
natexgpm, chroot /mnt /bin/bash03:15
nickrudecold, no, it's not in the repositories03:15
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coldk03:15
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Schuyleranyone got SSH port forwarding working in Ubuntu?03:15
naliothslyjab: look at all your windows and close any apt-get, synaptic, kynaptic, adept, etc03:15
JoeyDay|wguYou guys have been great help!03:15
JoeyDay|wguThanks.03:15
coldnickrude, are there any p2p programs in the repository?03:15
nickrudecold, gtk-gnutella is a decent replacement for limewire, I hear03:16
frogzoo!tell cold about azureus03:16
JoeyDay|wgunano worked to edit my file. There was a problem in the config file for my dyndns update client.03:16
JoeyDay|wguIt's working now.03:16
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slyjabnalioth: there is nothing open and  sudo killall apt* say no processes killed03:16
coldahh thanks03:16
chombeeHey - I'm having some trouble configuring OpenBox03:16
naliothslyjab: in a terminal "ps aux|grep dpkg"03:17
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Nytryxhow do i remove all of the old kde03:17
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nickrudeNytryx, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt will get nearly all of it03:18
redvelvetcan someone suggest a bit torrent application?03:18
chombeeMy first problem is: I put a bunch of entries in my .xsession file but none of them run when I run openbox, I have set openbox as the default in gdm03:18
slyjabnalioth:  root      9512  0.0  0.1   2936   744 pts/0    R+   21:17   0:00 grep dpkg, that was the return03:18
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Nytryxall that just to get kde 3.5 and make it look like gnome03:18
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Nytryxnsh im sticking wit gnome03:19
netcrusher88is hfs+ well-supported?03:19
nickrudeNytryx, a very good choice, imo :)03:19
skierkegaardwhat is a good mp3 encoder?03:19
redvelvetis there anything like bitcomet for linux?03:19
naliothslyjab: in a terminal "ps aux|grep apt"03:20
netcrusher88skierkegaard: mpg123, at least for commandline03:20
nickrudeskierkegaard, you can use soundjuicer, but you'll need to do the steps at the end of the preferences section of soundjuicers' help03:20
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naliothnetcrusher88: it is, but i wouldn't recommend constant use of a hfs+ partition03:20
skierkegaardi was trying to use abcde, and it was not liking mp303:20
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naliothskierkegaard: use grip and lame03:21
natexskierkegaard, yes lame.03:21
netcrusher88nalioth: thanks03:21
skierkegaardim not familiar with grip and lame03:21
slyjabnalioth:  are these the instances of apt i have running?03:21
skierkegaardhow do they work?03:21
sethkNytryx, I like kde, but if you run kde, then run kde, don't make it look like gnome.  :)03:21
naliothslyjab: if you find any, yes.03:21
nickrudeskierkegaard, you may need to install lame for abcde to do mp3's03:21
skierkegaardill look it up03:21
redvelvetdoes amorak rip to mp3's?03:21
dooglusredvelvet: not really.  azureus is about the closest03:22
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Nytryxi like things from both sethk so i mix what i like and dont to get it right for me03:22
redvelvetthanks dooglus03:22
chombeeAnyone here use OpenBox in Breezy ??03:22
cyphaseviscount, you said you have the FX 5500, right?03:22
sethkNytryx, that's fine, I just mean that to make kde look exactly like gnome is chasing your tail03:22
doogluschombee: I've used fluxbox in the past.  I hear its similar03:22
viscountcyphase, yes03:22
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cyphaseviscount, and it works with 3D?03:22
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cyphase(just making sure :) )03:22
Nytryxmy cat says hi BTW03:22
chombeedooglus - did you make use of the .xsession file?03:22
viscountcyphase, yep03:23
redvelvetdooglus, is azureus something i can find in the refinery?03:23
doogluschombee: I don't recall.03:23
skierkegaardis lame in synaptic?03:23
Nytryxhe hears the beep from the IRC notifications lol03:23
cyphaseviscount, and all you had to do was install the 3D driver?03:23
viscountcyphase, you need to install the nvidia drivers03:23
slyjabnalioth:  so what do i do with what i see in terminal now?03:23
dooglusredvelvet: it's not in the repository.  you can get it from its homepage.  you'll need to install a java vm - package 'blackdown' is what I use03:23
dooglus!azureus03:23
ubotuI heard azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo03:23
ElitePetei heard nvidia's drivers for linux are better then the windows ones?03:23
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naliothslyjab: anything that had grep in the line, disregard. if it has apt in the line, kill that process03:23
redvelvetthanks again dooglus03:23
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viscountcyphase, you need to install the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel, then nvidia-glx, then run nvidia-glx-config with sudo, then restart xorg03:24
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redvelvetdooglus, where can i get this blackdown package?03:24
dooglusredvelvet: that's in the repositories03:25
viscountredvelvet, apt has it03:25
cyphaseviscount, yea..03:25
cyphasethanx03:25
skierkegaardis glame, what you all meant when you said i needed lame?03:25
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cyphasei think my card has a hardware problem..03:25
cyphasebut anyway, thanx03:25
enoare the apt servers down?03:25
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benplautanyone here on dapper w/ gnome?03:25
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nickrudeskierkegaard, no, apt-get install lame ; if it that doesn't work, check out wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:25
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dooglusredvelvet: my bad.  the package is called "j2re1.4"03:26
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onefingertoomanyhi. ok i have a question, (if anyone can help me that is....) so.  i just got a kensington webcam. and i'm a totally such a newbie when it comes to ubuntu (and linux in general)  so can anyone help me find the drivers or be so kind as to walk me through what i need to do.  googling for me didn't help03:26
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redvelvetoh, thanks03:26
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skierkegaardresource temporarily unavailable03:26
enoonefingertoomany: cool nickname, man03:26
ngmlinux_I'm having some permissions issues, anyone familiar with Ubuntu?03:27
enoyeah the apt-get servers aren't working!03:27
onefingertoomanyeno, woman. not man :P03:27
doogluseno: archive.ubuntu.com is up03:27
rootpuppethi. i have a question. which irc server i can install on ubuntu version 5.10?03:27
enooh god!03:27
ngmlinux_I can't apply patches03:27
tiglionabbithello.  I have installed several -dev packages (SDL, tcl), but gcc is unable to find tcl.h or SDL.h, even though they're right there in /usr/include/tcl8.4 and /usr/include/SDL ...   Is there anything extra I should be doing?03:27
naliothtiglionabbit: add more -dev pkgs03:27
chombeeI want to launch docker and pypanel automatically when I login to openbox, I put pypanel & and docker & in my .xsession but it didn't do anything. What do I need to do?03:27
tiglionabbitnalioth: which ones dude03:27
tiglionabbitthe files I'm including exist, but gcc says it can't find them03:27
tiglionabbitit finds all the other headers though, for most other things I've installed03:28
naliothtiglionabbit: the ones you are missing (i search for '-dev' in synaptic and look for a likely culprit)03:28
ngmlinux_username@localhost:/usr/src/arm/linux$ sudo zcat ../diff-2.6.12.2-armcore|patch -p103:28
ngmlinux_patching file arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-xscale.S03:28
ngmlinux_patch: **** Can't rename file /tmp/pos1TWoj to arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-xscale.S : Permission denied03:28
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redvelvetdooglus, i got an openoffice.org2 package?03:28
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ngmlinux_anybody?03:28
naliothngmlinux_: please read the /topic and dont paste in here03:28
dooglusredvelvet: don't we all!03:29
ngmlinux_i was told you can paste up to 3 lines03:29
ngmlinux_sorry03:29
slyjabnalioth: the only apt process i have running is ron.daily/apt... when i try to kill it it says:bash: kill: signal: arguments must be process or job IDs03:29
slyjabbash: kill: pid: arguments must be process or job IDs03:29
slyjabbash: kill: ron.daily/apt: arguments must be process or job IDs03:29
ngmlinux_I didn't know03:29
tiglionabbitnalioth: what could it possibly be?  I'm including tcl.h and it's right there in /usr/include/tcl8.4/tcl.h03:29
ngmlinux_nalioth, can you help with this issue?03:29
redvelvetdooglus, sorry, i mean that is what poped up when i searched the repositories03:29
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naliothtiglionabbit: i have no idea what you are compiling or anything else03:29
dooglusredvelvet: did you see ubotu's message?03:29
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naliothngmlinux_: use sudo03:29
dooglus!azureus03:29
mitch__howdy peeps..03:29
ubotuhmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo03:29
dooglusredvelvet: that one03:29
redvelvetguess not, oops03:29
redvelvetoh, thanks sorry03:30
dooglusi'm off for a bit.  good luck.03:30
Phoenix1701slyjab: The reason for that error is because you need to kill a process using its process ID, not its name.03:30
redvelvetthanks for the help03:30
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mitch__im about to install debian,  will i be able to chose which window manager it installs during setup?03:30
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Phoenix1701To find the process ID for a running process, run "ps auxc" and look for the number to the left of the name.03:30
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Phoenix1701Then pass that to kill instead.03:30
mr-russanybody have a solution for a computer that when your reboot with ubuntu, it hangs, and doesn't reboot?03:30
Ophiocuswere can i learn irc scripting for the x-chat client?03:30
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ngmlinux_nalioth i did sudo http://pastebin.com/46469103:30
naliothOphiocus: try the xchat homepage03:30
slyjabPhoenix1701: tried that got the same return03:31
ngmlinux_nalioth, i guess you need to use a super sudo in ubuntu?03:31
Phoenix1701Exact same?03:31
Ophiocushmm. so simple its shameful03:31
slyjabyep03:31
Ophiocus:)03:31
mitch__How do i burn an iso image to cd?03:31
tiglionabbitnalioth: it doesn't matter what I'm compiling.  It matters that I have #include <tcl.h> at the top of my file and gcc doesn't find it.  It finds it fine if I say #include "the whole path to tcl.h", but that's not very portable03:31
Phoenix1701Including the "kill: ron.daily/apt: arguments must be process or job IDs" part?03:31
n0dlim looking to change my kernel03:31
n0dli have a PIII03:31
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naliothngmlinux_: then i have no clue.03:31
n0dldo i get i686 or 686smp?03:32
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Ophiocusn0dl, 386 is fine for that03:32
westymattanyone into kernel dev?03:32
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naliothtiglionabbit: then your tcl hasnt been installed properly, i suspect03:32
ngmlinux_nalioth, must be another ubuntu bug?03:32
slyjabno that line wasn't included sorry03:32
naliothn0dl: smp is for dual cores or more03:32
ngmlinux_nalioth, can't wait until ubuntu becomes "stable"03:32
westymatt<socket.h>03:32
n0dli c03:32
Phoenix1701Okay, I was about to say.  :)  But it said something about not being able to find that process?03:32
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slyjabyeah03:32
_bradley1is there a plugin for firefox - totem?03:33
Phoenix1701Try using killall instead of kill.  You can pass a name to killall and it will look up the PID itself.03:33
nickrudengmlinux_, it's the pipe into patch; try | sudo tee patch, etch03:33
mustard5_bradley1, mozplugger?03:33
nickrude*etc03:33
_bradley1mozplugger?03:33
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_bradley1thanks03:33
mustard5_bradley1, search in synaptic for it :)03:33
_bradley1ok thank you brb03:34
nickrude_bradley1, mozilla-mplayer is nice03:34
slyjabPhoenix1701: no process killed03:34
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tiglionabbitnalioth: are you familiar with compiling stuff with tcl or SDL on ubuntu?  What more could I possibly need than the actual libraries, if it compiles perfectly given an absolute path to the header?03:34
mustard5_bradley1, apt-cache show mozplugger should give you some feedback too03:34
_bradley1nickrude: i can't get mplayer to work...03:34
nickrude_bradley1, by 'work' , you mean ..03:35
tiglionabbitnalioth: is there some way I should be updating my includes path?03:35
ElitePetei love ubuntu >;-)03:35
nickrude_bradley1, install, play certain movies, etc?03:36
naliothtiglionabbit: i've not had any trouble compiling tcl or sdl things, but there is always one -dev you are missing03:36
_bradley1nickrude: install03:36
_bradley1in add programs its says it's not supported...03:36
ElitePetecan anyone do me a favor, and tell me if torrentspy.com is screwed up for them also?03:36
bpuccioubotu: repositories03:36
uboturepositories is probably How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list03:36
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nickrude_bradley you probably need to do ^^^03:36
bpuccio!sources03:36
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:36
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dderri am getting the following error while trying to install my nvidia driver03:37
_bradley1gotcha thanks03:37
_bradley1brb03:37
nickrude_bradley1, I like the source-o-matic myself03:37
ElitePetecan anyone do me a favor, and tell me if torrentspy.com is screwed up for them also?03:37
dderrgcc-version-check failed03:37
dderrany suggestions03:37
mustard5dderr, which version of gcc does it want?03:37
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dderrit isn't saying03:38
dderri added 3.403:38
mustard5dderr, install another version would be the answer03:38
naliothElitePete: ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic please03:38
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dderrand set the CC env variable03:38
ElitePetek nalioth03:38
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mustard5dderr, ah ok03:38
dderrbut I don't know what it is looking for03:38
ElitePeteno one home nalioth.03:38
mustard5dderr, maybe its looking for the latest one03:38
naliothElitePete: i'm sorry, but i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic and there are dozens of people in there03:39
ElitePete* Now talking on #unbutu-offtopic03:39
ElitePetei see no one?03:39
ElitePetehaha03:39
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mustard5dderr, have you consulted any guides for installing nvidia drivers?03:39
ElitePetespelling error :-)03:39
naliothElitePete: you can't spell correctly, you dont find the right place03:39
ElitePetegood point03:39
dderrmustard5 : lol, guides who needs guides03:39
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mustard5dderr, is there any reason you are not installing the nvidia drivers available in the repositories?03:40
paxmasterhello i am installing ubuntu for my friend but her laptop is dell 2600 and when I boot the vedio flicker03:40
dderrmustard5 : i don't even know what you mean by that03:40
sethkpaxmaster, when you boot the install cd?  or after you install it?03:40
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dderri need twin view03:40
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mustard5dderr, well there is a nvidia-glx package in the repositories that installs the 7667 version of the nvidia drivers03:40
tiglionabbitnalioth: hm, perhaps you're right.  So then, what packages do I need for it to find tcl.h?  (and why does this sound really silly to me..)  I have tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev tcl8.4-doc.  Should I get the 8.0 ones or something?  My application requires 8.403:41
mustard5dderr, you install them using synaptic package manager03:41
mustard5ubotu: tell dderr about nvidia03:41
paxmasterI have search on google and I found a same problem but he slove it by add the line append="video=vga16:off" in his lilo03:41
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tiglionabbitor tclx03:41
naliothtiglionabbit: all i can say is: you appear to be missing some -dev pkgs03:41
mustard5dderr, check PM from ubotu03:41
paxmasterhow would I do that in grub03:41
sethkpaxmaster, you are using grub, so you don't use append=,  you add  it to the end of the kernel line03:41
mustard5dderr, what type of nvidia card do you have?03:41
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tiglionabbitnalioth: should I `source` something after installing new libraries?03:42
sethkpaxmaster, so you'll have   kernel ...........   root=/dev/whatever ro video=vga16:off03:42
naliothtiglionabbit: not necessary03:42
sethkpaxmaster, assuming that video=vga16:off is correct, which I would have to check.03:42
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naliothtiglionabbit: join #ubuntu-offtopic please03:42
tiglionabbitnalioth: this isn't off topic03:42
paxmastersethk: thx03:42
sethkpaxmaster, use vga=ask03:42
dderrmustard5 : NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] 03:42
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paxmasterthx sethk03:43
naliothtiglionabbit: humor me03:43
tiglionabbitk03:43
mustard5dderr, k well it sound like a pretty recent nvidia card, so the nvidia-glx drivers should be fine03:43
stef65paxmaster: I had similar probs on a nforce2-box with embedded graphics... bios update solved it03:43
mustard5dderr, did you find the guides that ubotu sent you?03:43
misfit_toydderr, that's what this laptop has, they work fine03:43
chombeeOkay I'm running OpenBox, I got my .xsession file working, but if I launch docker in .xsession it doesn't catch any of the dockable apps. If I launch it from a terminal *after* logging in it works. Do you think pypanel is stealing the apps from docker?03:43
dderrit works03:44
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dderri guess i figured i need a new driver for twin view03:44
dderrmaybe i'm just being stupid03:44
paxmasterI will look further in to it03:44
mustard5dderr, there are some guides for twinview somewhere...*thinking*03:44
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misfit_toymustard5, you were using "tovid" right? and replaced that file in /usr/bin...didn't we talk about this days ago? anyway, I still get that "audio not detected in file, using silence for audio"...sorry if it wasn't you...03:45
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mustard5misfit_toy, it doesnt sound familiar03:45
misfit_toydderr, are you trying to get tv-out working?03:46
mustard5dderr, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=twinview03:46
misfit_toymustard5, k03:46
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sethkBRB03:46
s0n1cm0nk3yI know is this is probably the wrong place, but where should i go for help with ubuntu and xfce4?03:46
dderrno just dual monitors03:46
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misfit_toydderr, ah I see03:46
ngmlinux_nikerude, ahh let me try that03:46
ngmlinux_nickrude, ahh let me try that03:46
ngmlinux_could you explain that a little better nickrude?03:47
misfit_toydderr, even though this is my xorg.conf with tvout, it might help you by looking at it: http://fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=15703:48
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misfit_toydderr, yes it's posted at a fedora site (mine) but it's on a breezy box.03:48
_jasons0n1cm0nk3y, you can try #xubuntu or ask here and see if someone knows03:48
dderri managed to install the newest nvidia driver the other night, and saved my xorg.conf03:49
nickrudengmlinux_, to be honest, I'm not real clear on the theory behind that. I got it from this channel a while ago for piping into files that need sudo privileges03:49
dderrbut today i can't seem to get the nvidia driver to take03:49
s0n1cm0nk3ywell during me trying to config it, I lost the ability to put up a wall paper, and I lost the rightclick xfce menu03:49
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s0n1cm0nk3ytrying to get that back03:49
nickrudengmlinux_, it worked, so I use it :)03:49
dderri'm reading through the guides, thanks for all the help03:49
ngmlinux_nickrude, I'm not terrible concerned with how it works, I'm just unsure of exactly what to type03:49
mustard5dderr, did you do a sudo nvidia-glx-config enable command?03:50
nickrudengmlinux_, what was the line again?03:50
vaderI have some files and I wanr ro make them into a .iso file...ho wwould i do that?03:50
dderrmustard5 : nop03:50
ngmlinux_one sec, nickrude03:50
Toma-vader: put them all in a folder then use mkisofs03:50
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mustard5dderr, k..well that is part of the guide for installing nvidia-glx   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:50
ChadzaIs there a way for me to take my winxp fonts and add them into ubuntu?03:50
vaderk03:50
redvelvetgrrr i cant find j2re1.4 in the repositories03:50
redvelvetand i have it set right.03:51
dderrmustard5 : cool thx03:51
s0n1cm0nk3yall: I tried reinstalling xfce, but it didnt work03:51
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Toma-Chadza: copy them all to /usr/share/fonts i think...03:51
ChadzaIndeed.03:51
mustard5dderr, you should see a white nvidia logo come up when you restart X03:51
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sethkChadza, there is, but it is (no!) not legal03:51
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sethkChadza, do a google for freetype03:51
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ngmlinux_nickrude, http://pastebin.com/46471203:51
ScreaminIk1moral question...03:51
tiglionabbitredvelvet: you'll probably have to get it from sun's website.  Instructions are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java I believe03:51
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Toma-sethk: its perfectly legal if hes got a legit copy of xp03:51
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redvelvetthanks man03:52
ScreaminIk1anyone?03:52
sethkToma-, is it?  ok, didn't know that03:52
Toma-;)03:52
mustard5redvelvet, you don't want jre1.5?03:52
Toma-ScreaminIk1: just ask dang it.03:52
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redvelvetmustard.03:52
redvelveti dont know03:52
sethkToma-, I remember reading that they used to be on M$'s web site, and were taken down03:52
mustard5redvelvet thats the latest one03:52
ScreaminIk1is it ok to vnc remotely TO MY COMPUTER... and watch my roomie's conversations?03:52
stef65s0n1cm0nk3y: your saved xfce-session is still in place, so everything is as u left it...03:52
ChadzaToma, you are my hero.03:52
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redvelvetmaybe thats why i cant find it, the wiki is just not up to date.03:53
mustard5ubotu: tell redvelvet about javadeb03:53
mustard5ubotu: tell redvelvet about java03:53
coagwhat is a command to see hwo much space on a mouted path?03:53
hyphenatedScreaminIk1: it's probably do-able, but whether it's ok is more of a moral question03:53
_jasoncoag, df ?03:53
Toma-sethk: thats becdause they couldnt check if all the downloads were from legit users...03:53
mustard5redvelvet, check for PMs from ubotu03:53
mustard5redvelvet, javadeb is the easiest way to install03:53
Toma-ScreaminIk1: no03:53
nickrudengmlinux_, I think http://pastebin.com/464713 would work03:53
will00i need to access the data on the windows partition via the live CD. does anyone know how???03:53
s0n1cm0nk3yum ok03:53
redvelveti am wanting to install azureus, will this work?03:53
mustard5redvelvet, look for the jre1.5+updates deb package at the download link03:54
wildhamsteris it?03:54
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s0n1cm0nk3ystef65: so is there someway to get it back to default?03:54
mustard5redvelvet, yes..this is the jave you need for that irrc03:54
coag2593134803:54
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_jasonubotu, tell will00 about mountwindows03:54
soldieruk400hello all03:54
coag_jason: is the output in bytes?03:54
redvelvetmustard5, you're a great help03:54
mustard5redvelvet, np03:54
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_jasoncoag, yes, iirc03:55
n0dlI have a friend who isnt really a big computer person. The most he really uses the computer for is simple web browsing, email, word processing, and listening to cds and stuff.03:55
_jasonwill00, read ubotu's second link on mounting a window's drive03:55
n0dlhe wants to try linux out and i mentioned ubuntu03:55
stef65s0n1cm0nk3y: maybe delete ur ~/.xfce[4]  folder ?03:55
ScreaminIk1i know you can03:55
ScreaminIk1i'm doing it03:55
will00where?03:55
ScreaminIk1i'm asking if it's ok03:55
Loonixive tryed to enter the ubuntu page but it tryed to install something on my computer03:55
n0dlim going to move him tommorow... Should give him ubuntu or kubuntu?03:55
mustard5n0dl, ubuntu is not too bad...Mepis is more like 'windows' I believe03:55
ScreaminIk1it's my pc03:55
ScreaminIk1and my roomie knows i could03:55
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Toma-n0dl: give him kubuntu and/or ubuntu live cds :)03:56
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nickrudeNoUse, give him both03:56
_jasonwill00, ubotu sent you a private emssage03:56
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_jasonwill00, message too03:56
Loonixive tryed to enter the ubuntu page but it tryed to install something on my computer ! so i declined03:56
nickrudeLoonix, ?03:56
will00thanks!03:56
ramblingturtleafter installing updates today my sound does not work. anybody else have the same problem03:56
mustard5n0dl, it all depends on how much mucking around he wants to do to configure his computer...if you configure it all for him that would be easier03:56
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s0n1cm0nk3ystef65: is that in the home directory or the root, kind of a linux n00b here03:56
n0dlmustard5: which i will03:56
Loonixthey called it certificate03:57
n0dlmustard5: hes afraid of CLI03:57
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mustard5n0dl, well that will make life easier then :)  I've seen people scared away from linux because of the command line03:57
nickrudeLoonix, that's a security certificate, that's pretty common.03:57
mustard5n0dl, yep :D03:57
Loonixno its not03:57
Toma-n0dl: use the live cds first. see if he likes the feel. its also detects alot more on boot03:57
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ajuliushi03:57
n0dlToma- i c03:57
stef65s0n1cm0nk3y:  in the home-dir (~ is a short form for the actual users home)03:57
_jasonI reformatted a fat32 partition to ext3 using gparted and it is working fine.  However, when I do 'fdisk -l', it says 'W95 FAT32' under the System colum.  Why is this?03:57
Loonixits the 1st site in month trying to do that03:57
ScreaminIk1...03:57
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n0dlhmm the only problem is i dont have a live kubuntu cd03:57
mustard5n0dl, consider Mepis too..it might be more 'friendly'03:58
ajuliusUbuntu works like a charm :)03:58
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coaghow can i mount ntfs as rw?03:58
ScreaminIk1install ubuntu... open up synaptic... install kubuntu03:58
silverton_jason, have you rebooted?03:58
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ScreaminIk1ntfs insn't rw03:58
mustard5coag, well you can't write to ntfs03:58
Loonixsome evil ppl in here03:58
ScreaminIk1only r03:58
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ericmoritz\0has anyone played with bluetooth in ubuntu?03:58
_jasonsilverton, I don't think so.  I should try that03:58
silverton_jason, yes you should03:58
_jasonsilverton, :)03:58
s0n1cm0nk3ystef65: um... I ls -al03:59
stef65yup03:59
s0n1cm0nk3ystef65: I ls -al 'd my home directory, and I cant find my xfce folder03:59
mustard5coag, you can write to vfat though...and windows can read vfat03:59
bimberiajulius: good to hear :)03:59
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coagmustard5: darn03:59
n0dl mustard5 I will keep Mepis in mind03:59
coagmy partition on windows with alot of space left on it is ntfs03:59
Toma-coag: you cxan write to ntfs, but its very experimental04:00
mustard5coag, you could convert it to vfat04:00
coagi don't want to corrupt the partition04:00
n0dlbrb04:00
coagand i don't want to lose the data04:00
mustard5coag, k04:00
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sethkcoag, _very_ experimental.  I wouldn't risk it.04:00
ramblingturtlegreetings, everyone04:00
coagim not going to04:00
coagthanks04:00
mustard5coag, well writing to ntfs might well be just as risky :)04:00
pantzanyone know how to get kde as an option with gdm?04:00
mustard5coag, k04:00
ramblingturtlei have a soundblaster soundcard that worked earlyer today and it is not working. nothing is muted anywhere as far as I can tell anybody willing to help04:01
mustard5pantz, install kubuntu-desktop will install KDE04:01
bimberipantz: install kubuntu-desktop04:01
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s0n1cm0nk3ystef65: and it also appears that the find it program thats with xfce, and my file manager wont work : /04:01
ajuliushave any of you heard of a computer where you disconnect the ide cable and you get a memory error in diagnostic led but the memory isnt faulty, it just works when u reset the memory?04:01
pantzmustard5, bimberi thanks04:01
s0n1cm0nk3ybrb04:01
xangel36can some one help me install a aplication?04:01
ngmlinux_I'll give it a try nickrude04:01
ajuliusis the memory bus and ide bus interconnected?04:01
ajuliusis that dma related?04:01
mustard5xangel36, what is the application?04:01
mike_*04:01
ajuliuscomputer geeks :P04:02
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xangel36openlaszlo_3.0-unix-2_all.deb and has a lock on it04:02
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mustard5xangel36, use the chown command to changeownership?04:03
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flodinelittle help after installing artwiz font they only work on gnome but not in aterm or eterm why?04:03
mustard5xangel36, is it ownership or permissions that are locked?04:03
xangel36im kind okf new so i dont understand can u make it more simple?04:03
n0dlsince i dont have a live kubuntu disc04:03
carl_coag, for when you boot into win, you can read/write to your ext3 partition: http://www.fs-driver.org04:03
xangel36well i got it from a magazine04:03
n0dlcan i just install kubuntu first04:03
mustard5xangel36, right click on the file and go to properties and see who is the owner and what permissions are on the file04:03
n0dlthen run the live ubuntu disc?04:03
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coagcarl_: yeah i have that setup already, thanks though04:04
flodineanyone have artwiz fonts installed that can help me?04:04
xangel36it says file owner root04:04
_jasonsilverton, nope, still says the ext3 drive is 'W95 FAT32', gparted reports it correctly as ext304:04
mustard5xangel36, it may just be showing as read only if you got if from a CD as the medium you took it from is read only04:04
ngmlinux_no luck nickrude, http://pastebin.com/46472504:05
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xangel36and can read write and execute04:05
mustard5xangel36, so what is your username on this computer?04:05
NameeaterI've just upgraded to breezy and it seems nautalus (sp) has lost the "URL" box, how can i get it back?04:05
carl_coag, also, this claims to be a safe way to write: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS04:05
xangel36xangel36 im on terminal as root04:05
mustard5xangel36, chown username.username filename04:05
carl_I tried once, but it couldn't find the right ntfs.sys file or something04:06
xangel36but the alien -i does not worl04:06
ajuliushow do i scan my ports in linux?04:06
n0dlmustard5 out of curiosity how exactly is mepis more different than ubuntu?04:06
mustard5xangel36, your in root?04:06
xangel36yes04:06
nickrudengmlinux_, possibilities are endless, a sec04:06
ajuliusto see whos using my active ports04:06
xangel36whit sudo -s -H command04:06
sethkajulius, netstat -a04:07
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ajuliussethk thanks, also how do i get firewall ips? i assume ubuntu has a firewall active?04:07
ngmlinux_sure nickrude04:07
coagcarl_: thanks ill looks more into it04:07
mustard5n0dl, I have not used it myself, but you can visit www.distrowatch.com and read about it04:07
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ajuliussethk or does ubuntu come with firewall off by default?04:07
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sethkajulius, I'm not sure, I don't use fake firewalls.04:07
ajuliuswhos using a fake firewall04:08
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sethkajulius, iptables -l will show you what filtering is enabled04:08
ajuliuswhatever comes in ubuntu i mean04:08
mustard5xangel36, being in root you shouldnt need to change the owner since root owns it already   actually :)04:08
sethkajulius, anyone who thinks a firewall is software configuration rather than a separate machine.  :)04:08
xangel36so what do i do to install it?04:08
sethkajulius, IP filtering is not a firewall.  But the abuse of the language has, alas, become pervasive04:08
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_jasonajulius, capital L: iptables -L04:09
stef65... or a separate virtual machine (user mode linux e.g.)04:09
mustard5xangel36, but to change the permissions, you could do a chmod +x filename04:09
mustard5xangel36, that will give it executable permission04:09
sethkajulius, which is not to say that ip filtering isn't a good thing.  and iptables is an excellent ip filter.  iptables running on a separate machine, with some proxies, makes an excellent firewall04:09
mustard5xangel36, then you would install using a dpkg -i filename.deb command04:10
ajuliusneeded to use sudo04:10
xangel36done now what do i do?04:10
ajuliusfor iptables04:10
mustard5xangel36, then you would install using a dpkg -i filename.deb command04:10
ajuliusbut it says nothing04:10
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nickrudengmlinux_, a simple solution, because I'm not really free to think at the moment: sudo -i, then run the line , then exit04:10
ajuliushmm04:10
ajuliusso ubuntu doesnt have a firewall on by default?04:10
ngmlinux_i'll try that we'll see04:10
_jasonajulius, you don't need anything with a default install, ubuntu has no services running to make you vulnerable04:10
mustard5xangel36, I don't know what effect it is going to have installing it as root though04:10
ngmlinux_run it the orignal way nickrude?04:10
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s0n1cm0nk3yback04:11
carl_http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/en/?page=news says  " It is now mandatory to use this beta version as the 0.95.x series is about to expire on November 26th."  Snaptic currently installs .95.4...04:11
nickrudengmlinux_, zcat ../diff-2.6.12.2-armcore | patch -p104:11
sethkajulius, I believe you have to install and configure it04:11
mustard5xangel36, I'm pretty used to installing stuff using sudo, but I guess its all the same thing04:11
s0n1cm0nk3ystef56: ok xfce is acting really weird, I can switch users, then log in anyways with the same account and i get everything back04:11
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nickrudengmlinux_, the sudo -i will give you a root terminal temporarily. Useful for not thinking about sudo in complicated commands :)04:12
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ajuliussethk yeah firestarter04:12
ngmlinux_sweeeeeet04:12
ngmlinux_thanks nickrude04:12
carl_sf.net has a v96.deb - how do I use that to update what synaptic installed ?04:12
ngmlinux_i guess it's just a fault of ubuntu04:12
xangel36so i puu dpkg -i openlaszlo_3.0-unix-2_all.deb?04:12
ajuliussethk so with linux its fine to have no firewall?04:12
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xangel36only that?04:12
nickrudengmlinux_, I should have mentioned it a half hour ago, sorry :)04:12
ngmlinux_that the other distros don't have04:12
ngmlinux_haha04:12
mustard5xangel36, correct04:12
ajuliussethk:  See with windows its a necessity to have a firewall04:12
ngmlinux_worked great though nickrude04:12
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ngmlinux_thanks04:12
xangel36lets try it04:12
ajuliusbut i guess windows has all the ports open by default?04:12
nickrudengmlinux_, no, it's a 'feature' of sudo :)04:12
bimberiajulius: no "firewall by default", on install it isn't listening externally on any ports, use netstat to check what it is listening (eg. sudo netstat -plunt)04:12
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bimberi*"firewall" by default04:13
stef65ajulius: u read too much symantec promotion....04:13
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JoeyDayHey, is the /etc/motd file locked somehow in Ubuntu?04:13
ajuliusstef65:  No, with windows if you dont enable the free firewall your ports are open and someone can get in04:13
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carl_firewall peeps: imagine a house with no doors or windows.  do you need a lock?04:13
_jasonubotu, tell JoeyDay about sudo04:13
ajuliuscarl so ubuntu has no doors or windows right?04:13
ngmlinux_nickrude, oh how I love time saving (or wasting) features lol04:13
stef65ajulius: win32sec is a good antidot to paranoia04:14
JoeyDay_jason: I appreciate the help, but I already know about sudo.04:14
ajuliussee windows has open doors and windows04:14
Krhishehehe... nice way of putting it, carl_04:14
drewcan anyone help me with setting up my video card (intel 915)?04:14
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ngmlinux_thanks again, you've made my day nickrude04:14
nickrudengmlinux_, sudo is useful for remembering to be cautious; I disable the password part04:14
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JoeyDayI'm trying to do this: 'sudo cat /dev/null > /etc/motd'04:14
xangel36it say reading database ....unpaking and now setting uo openlaslo04:14
carl_right.  by default nothing can connect to it04:14
_jasonJoeyDay, you should be able to edit motd with sudo, are you getting an error?04:14
JoeyDayAnd it says Permission denied.04:14
mustard5xangel36, thats sounds promising04:14
dderrmustard5 : i figured out my problem truly bone headed, i was trying to install the nforce driver instead of the gforce driver..opps04:14
s0n1cm0nk3ystef56:any ideas?04:14
mustard5dderr, :)04:14
cvthas anyone gotten any graphics intensive games for ubuntu?04:14
xangel36yeah o know but now i can type again so i dont think it work04:15
djtanseyhello all. i am trying to rotate my screen. i have figured that part out. but now my mouse continues to move as if the screen hadn't been rotate. can you rotate the direction of your mouse?04:15
KrhisQuake 4. ^^04:15
mustard5dderr, we all do stuff like that ;)04:15
JoeyDayWell, I'm just editing the file in nano now. Seems to have worked.04:15
JoeyDayIt must've just not liked what I was trying to do.04:15
ScreaminIk1armagetron...04:15
ScreaminIk1slune04:15
NameeaterUbuntu has mountd my XP ntfs partition but I can't access it with the command line or gnome, what do i need to do to make it work?04:15
cafuegocvt: Yep.04:15
mustard5xangel36, is it finished installing?04:15
xangel36i suppose04:15
dderrmustard5 : glad to know it isn't just me04:15
cafuegoppracer, flighgear04:15
mustard5xangel36, well what instructions did they give you on running it?04:15
xangel36none04:16
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mustard5xangel36, try typeing man openlaszlo04:16
cvtcafuego, cool.04:16
mustard5xangel36, or just openlaszlo04:16
cafuegocvt: Lots of stuff to make your gfx card do poo.04:16
xangel36none of the work04:17
cafuegocvt: If all else fails, blender.04:17
nickrud!tell Nameeater about ntfs04:17
mustard5xangel36, what is it supposed to do?04:17
stef65Does somebody happen to have a kernel-image with this $%&-via dri module enabled? Just fsck'd up the third compile this evening....04:17
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nickrudNameeater, the msg you just got should help with reading your ntfs partition04:17
Nameeaterchur04:18
cvtwhen i get my pc to 32 bit instead of the current 64 bit for amd 64 i can install ubuntu and get those games.04:18
Nameeaterany idea where the "url" bar in the file browser has gone? :/04:18
carl_how do I install using a .deb?04:18
_jason!deb04:18
ubotumethinks deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb04:18
xangel36is a flash Gui-Building enviornent04:18
carl_thanks04:18
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cafuegocvt: Yes, and they'll run fine (as opposed to in 64bit mode)04:19
mustard5xangel36, I would open synaptic..look in the STATUS tab section for the local and obselete section and find the information on what files where installed and where..then see if it installed a manual somewhere04:19
cafuegocvt: that's what I did 2 days ago.04:19
nickrudNameeater, try hitting clt-l04:19
xangel36ok04:19
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cvtcafuego, how did u change to 32 bit?04:19
Nameeaterbrilliant, thanks :) couldn't find it in the menu's04:20
KrhisSame here, I have a AMD64 3200+ and no problem with games.04:20
cafuegocvt: Wipe, reinstall.04:20
bimberiJoeyDay: "cat /dev/null | sudo tee /etc/motd" would work (the issue is that the > redirection runs as your normal user)04:20
cvtcafuego, ok cool04:20
cafuegoAs added bonus, in 32bit xvid files play just fine, DVDs work, flash works, java works..04:20
JoeyDayRight.04:20
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mustard5xangel36, if its a manual stored in a .gz file you can use zcat to open it04:20
xangel36coul i type apt-get install openlaszlo?04:20
JoeyDayI found you can also just enclose the > part in quotes.04:20
mustard5xangel36, no04:21
cafuegocvt: I have /home on a separate partition, so it was all quite easy... all my data & settings were saved.04:21
JoeyDaysudo 'cat /dev/null > /etc/motd'04:21
mustard5xangel36, that installs from the online repostiry04:21
mustard5xangel36, you are installing locally..so you used the dpkg command04:21
cvtcafuego, how many gB's did u partition for settings?04:21
mustard5xangel36, synaptic will have it in the local and obselete section now04:21
nickrudJoeyDay, I could kiss you :)04:21
mustard5xangel36, as you installed it 'local'04:22
cafuegocvt: My /home is 48GB04:22
JoeyDaynickrud: ??04:22
xangel36if i do the apt-get it says openlaszlo is already the newst version but i cant see it in the aplications directory04:22
mustard5xangel36, there are options in the synaptic menu to display the information and where the file installed stuff and what files were installed04:22
mustard5xangel36, it would only know about the applications menu if it was a package made for ubuntu04:23
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bimberiJoeyDay: i get "sudo: cat /dev/null > /etc/motd: command not found" ??04:23
xangel36ohh04:23
mustard5xangel36, this is just a random package for general use04:23
nickrudJoeyDay, I've a few lines in some scripts I would like to set up that that will work extremely well on. Thank you.04:23
xangel36ok04:23
mustard5xangel36, ideally they would have included instructions :)04:23
ryani'm a little confused about burning dvds here, my initial reaction was to place the VIDEO_TS folder in nautilus cd/dvd creation window and burn it, which worked fine. of course (and as i expected) it didn't play in my home burner or even in totem/mplayer. after researching the actual way to do it i see there is a cdrecord-ProDVD version, but i'm rather perplexed because it seems to need a license, also seems to only cut 1gb of data, yet it also se04:23
mustard5xangel36, but since they haven't then you need to study up how to run it04:24
s0n1cm0nk3ystef56: ok, I booted into gnome to make things easier (I hope at least) what should I do?04:24
xangel36thats kind of hard sience im new to linux04:24
ryanjust fine. the cdrecord-ProDVD binaries all seem to be quite old, too. I'm wondering if it has been superceded now?04:24
mustard5xangel36, you could try typeing in the first part of the name and then hitting TAB twice and see what options there are to choose from that look like that might start it up04:24
naliothryan: it is free for personal use, but k3b makes dvds just fine04:24
mustard5xangel36, or you could even try hitting alt+f2 typing in a few letters and see if it autocompletes the command to start it04:24
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xangel36what good books could i buy to lear linux and how to install aplicatios on terminal?04:25
ryannalioth; so cdrecord on its own (while it did burn the complete dvd with the data accessable to me) can't do it, even if i use mkisofs -dvd-video, but k3b can?04:25
naliothubotu: tell xangel36 about cli04:25
mustard5xangel36, there are a number of online resources04:25
mustard5ubotu, has sent you some links to try04:25
ubotuWish i knew, mustard504:25
naliothxangel36: check your PM, no $ necessary04:25
naliothryan: i use k3b all the time to do dvd04:26
xangel36ok04:26
mustard5xangel36, if you hang out in here you will soon start picking up some things too ;)04:26
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mustard5xangel36, it all becomes second nature after a while04:27
xangel36thats what im planing to do when my clases ends tomorrow04:27
mustard5xangel36, I've only been on linux myself since June...04:27
bshumatebimberi / JoeyDay : using sudo with a subshell allows redirection to work, e.g. :  sudo sh -c "echo foo > /etc/motd"04:27
bshumateman sudo ;-)04:27
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dderrmustard5 : yeah twin view is working04:27
Squee-Dis there a resource dedicated to setting up ubuntu as a media center pc?04:27
ngmlinux_nickrude, you still there?04:27
mustard5dderr, well done04:27
ngmlinux_nickrude I have one more question if you have a sec04:28
dderrit only took me about 2 days04:28
xangel36i like this stuff sience im always been a mac user04:28
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s0n1cm0nk3yanyone else here know something about xfce?04:28
mustard5dderr, I'm sure you learnt a lot in that time :)04:28
coagmustard5: i seem to have you by a couple years04:28
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mustard5coag, hehe yeah04:28
coagbiut i can't seem to get rid of windows all the way04:28
Hobbsees0n1cm0nk3y: in #xfce ?04:28
coagthat will change when i get my new computer this christmas04:28
coagthis will be my ubuntu server machine04:28
ngmlinux_I'm getting a /bin/sh: gcc: command not found -> http://pastebin.com/46474204:28
s0n1cm0nk3yhobbsee, is that on freenode?04:28
dderrrecap ctrl-alt-backspace, /etc/inid.d/gdm restart04:29
Hobbsees0n1cm0nk3y: yep04:29
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mustard5coag, I was on windows98se so the change was not that hard to make...win98 was driving me batty04:29
coagO.O04:29
s0n1cm0nk3yhobbsee: thanks I'll check it out04:29
coag98?04:29
mustard5coag, yeah 98se04:29
coaggosh, it's been a few eyars since i used 9804:29
coagyears04:29
Hentai^XPget rid of 98!04:29
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dderrand i hosed my system so many times w/ dselect that i learned about aptitude04:29
mustard5coag, XP was too costly for me04:29
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Hentai^XPto teh death of 98!04:29
coagmustard5: i see how the change was easy :P04:29
ferHi There04:29
xangel36well mustard5 thanks a lit for your help and time take care good bye04:29
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coagmustard5: i get windows software free :) msdn04:30
mustard5xangel36, ok  have fun!04:30
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dderrmsdn sellout --> as i sip a cup of starbucks coffee04:30
naliothcoag: i can get dog poop for free.04:30
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coagdderr: haha04:30
coagnalioth: so we are on the same ground i see!04:30
mustard5dderr, yeah I became quite proficient at reinstalling myself when I first started04:30
Squee-DMy Suburban Dog Network04:31
Squee-D?04:31
ngmlinux_anybody ever get a /bin/sh: gcc: command not found error before?04:31
BlueEaglemustard5: Did you reinstall yourself? o.O04:31
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Hentai^XPcoag: how you get MSDN?04:31
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Squee-Dngmlinux_ yes when i didnt have gcc installed04:31
ngmlinux_you'd think the ubuntu people could at least get that right04:31
Hentai^XPuni ?04:31
mustard5BlueDevil, :)04:31
Kyralngmlinux_: sudo apt-get install build-essiential04:31
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coagHentai^XP: my mom teaches at a tech school and doesnt use her account04:31
ngmlinux_thanks Kyral04:31
mustard5ngmlinux_, without the typo ;)04:31
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Kyralngmlinux_: but spell it right04:31
BlueEaglemustard5: No, that's my evil twin. :p04:31
ngmlinux_Kyral stuff keeps uninstalling everytime i update04:31
dderri need to replace the HD and reinstall osx next04:31
Squee-Dyou dont need gcc on a base install04:31
ngmlinux_essential04:32
Squee-Das FREAKY as that sounds :P04:32
Hentai^XPcoag: get me server 2000!04:32
coagHentai^XP: that would be illegal!04:32
mustard5BlueEagle, doh04:32
dderrthat kind of scares me04:32
songyihello04:32
BlueEaglemustard5: ;D04:32
coagHentai^XP: why would you want to use windows for a server anyways04:32
coagHentai^XP: that is just plain foolishness04:32
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ngmlinux_"couldn't stat this and that"04:32
Hentai^XPcoag: come into #kubuntu-offtopic04:32
ngmlinux_Kyral04:32
mustard5ngmlinux_, there was a typo in the command...04:33
dderrhears the deal, i you are a developer and you want to use open source tools, windows truly suck04:33
mustard5ngmlinux_, its build-essential04:33
_jasonI reformatted my fat32 partition (hda5) to ext3 using gparted.  Upon reboot gparted correctly displays hda5 as ext3, however 'fdisk -l' lists hda5 as 'W95 FAT32' under the 'Systems' column.  Why would this be?04:33
dderrand will make your life difficult04:33
ngmlinux_yeah that's what i did04:33
Squee-Ddderr thats a little overstated04:33
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Kyral_jason: its okay04:33
mustard5ngmlinux_, paste exactly the command you typed in in here04:33
ngmlinux_sudo apt-get update04:33
ngmlinux_then i'll try again mustard504:33
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mustard5ngmlinux_, ah ok04:33
Kyralngmlinux_: are you using any "odd" repos?04:34
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_jasonKyral, lol if you say so, can you give me a term I can google or something?  I'd like to understand why and I've been searching but with no luck04:34
Kyral_jason: I have no idea, but it happened to me and ran fine :D04:34
dderrSquee-D : depends what you are doing, but gnu type tools + plus windows usually means pain04:34
_jasonKyral, ah okay :)  It's now my home directory so I hope it runs fine!04:35
Kyral_jason: I think its just whatever identifier that the partitioner put there04:35
intelikeyanyone have da'as where the config file is that controls where apt searches for a cdrom ?04:36
_jasonKyral, alright thanks, I feel a little more comfortable about it now04:36
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Squee-Ddderr well you qualified your statement a lot better that time. I stll have little trouble using cyg and dev-cpp. but it really does depend on what your building, who for, etc.04:36
ngmlinux_odd repos?04:36
ngmlinux_I hope not04:36
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mustard5intelikey, you can add a cdrom via synaptic04:36
ngmlinux_you never know ubuntu is very high maintenance04:36
dderrSquee-D : I battled the java + cygwin canundrum enough that I prefer osX or linux04:37
Squee-Di dont have any great love of Windows but i take no shame in using it daily to develop software and as my usual desktop environment04:37
Kyralngmlinux_: PLF?04:37
mustard5ngmlinux_, it is at the start ...but I hardly do anything to it now04:37
intelikeymustard5 i have added via apt-cdrom using the -d /mount/point  but it is still looking for it on /cdrom04:37
nickrudngmlinux_, not really that high maintenance, it's just not what you're used to04:37
ngmlinux_i've only been using linux for 5 years04:38
ngmlinux_windows and mac os for like 2004:38
nickrudngmlinux_, debian?04:38
KyralI consider XP high maintenance ;P04:38
Squee-Dhehehe. ngmlinux_ try Gentoo. thats high maint04:38
ngmlinux_debain for maybe 7 months04:38
dderrSquee-D : I just ordered visual studio pro today for windows mobile development, but I still love the the *nix philosophy04:38
ngmlinux_i used a stripped down gentoo on an embedded system04:38
nickrudngmlinux_, about the same, and it took about 2 hours to set this up04:38
ngmlinux_MUCH harder than regular gentoo04:38
ngmlinux_no package management04:38
mustard5intelikey, hmmm...not sure..never used apt-cdrom myself04:39
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Squee-Dwell gentoo minus package management == LFS04:39
ngmlinux_linux had it's day04:39
intelikeyso does anyone have knowledge of where the config file is that controls where apt searches for a cdrom ?04:39
ngmlinux_well04:39
ngmlinux_linux based stuff04:39
ThePredatoreverything I try to compile says cpp is not sane when I run ./configure04:39
ngmlinux_benifits a lot from the work of linux04:39
nickrudngmlinux_, no package management?04:39
ThePredatorgcc is current04:39
mustard5intelikey, is the mount point in fstab and mounted properly?04:39
ngmlinux_nope stripped down gentoo to run on 128MB of flash04:39
dderretc / apt / sources.list04:40
Squee-Dngmlinux_ sounds like fun none the less04:40
intelikeymustard5 yes and yes.   in fact it umounts it and then looks for it in /cdrom04:40
ngmlinux_pain in the ass04:40
nickrudsorry, read out of context04:40
ThePredatoranybody know what could be the problem?04:40
Squee-Dngmlinux_ what processor?04:40
ngmlinux_sorry idk if i'm alowed to say that04:40
ngmlinux_elan on that machine04:40
mustard5intelikey, hmmm...frustrating :)04:40
ngmlinux_no wait04:40
ngmlinux_ivc304:40
intelikeysomewhat04:40
Squee-Divc3, they use that in the new squeezebox yeah?04:40
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mustard5could you edit the sources.list entry by hand?04:41
ThePredatorso nobody knows what could be wrong wiht my cpp?04:41
ngmlinux_ok it looks like apt-get build-essentials is working now04:41
Kyralmustard5: yes you can lol04:41
Adyethsanyone know how to get an old zip drive to work in ubuntu?04:41
intelikeymustard5 who ?04:41
sethkngmlinux_, there is an acronym for that (PITA)04:41
mustard5intelikey, that was for you04:41
sethkAdyeths, parallel port or SCSI?04:41
Adyethsits an internal zip drive.04:41
mustard5intelikey, I take it you are not on gnome?04:42
intelikeyhehhe that info is not in /etc/apt/sources.list   if i knew where it was i would surely edit it.04:42
Adyethsit SORTOF works. but I can't seem to get the disks to mount.04:42
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Adyethsand I really need to get some info off this one zip disk I have. :/04:42
sethkAdyeths, internal is probably IDE04:42
intelikeymustard5 no i need to get apt working before that is even possable.04:42
Adyethsyes. I believe its ide.04:43
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mustard5intelikey, ok..well what if I add a cdrom to my sources.list via synaptic and show you the entry from my sources.list?04:43
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dderrits the first line of sources.list04:43
intelikeymustard5 it will look just like mine.04:43
mustard5intelikey, well what are you on?04:43
AdyethsI know its /dev/hdb4 .... and I can read directly from it... but I can't seem to get it to mount.04:43
intelikeythe mount point for the cdrom is not     i repete  NOT in sources.list mustard504:44
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mustard5intelikey, I understand that..but isnt the aim to get a CD entry in your sources.list?04:44
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ngmlinux_"E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel" when I tried to apt-get install ncurses-devel04:45
intelikeymustard5 no.  i have that   no problemo04:45
ngmlinux_anybody on that one?04:45
mustard5intelikey, k04:45
mustard5intelikey, I'm missing the point of the exercise I guess04:45
Squee-Doooh looky, my first ever ubuntu login screen :)04:46
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intelikeymustard5 yes i think so.04:46
mustard5Squee-D, now the fun begins :)04:46
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Squee-Dno mouse == the biggest fun04:47
nickrudngmlinux_, try libncurses5-dev04:47
dderrThanks for the help everyone04:47
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Adyethsso... anyone know how I can get these zip disks to mount?04:47
ngmlinux_http://pastebin.com/46476504:47
_jasonupdate-notifier is hogging my cpu, can I tell it to stop and come back later?04:47
ngmlinux_ok, thanks nickru, i'll give that a shot04:47
Squee-Dactually the biggest fun is going to be getting my hpt 370 chip behaving and to move the drive to a different node in /dev/04:47
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nickrudintelikey, I've just been watching, but apt-cdrom man page mentions that the mount point needs to be defined in fstab. If you know that already, sorry04:48
mustard5nickrud, I brought that up earlier :)04:49
intelikeynickrud yeah i got that,  thanks tho04:49
nickrudmustard5, heh, well, I tried04:49
mustard5intelikey, so what is the mount point you are trying to get to?04:50
intelikeymustard5 /home/<user>/disk04:50
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ngmlinux_nickrud, I don't know where people learn this stuff but that worked!04:50
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nickrudngmlinux_, aptitude search ncurses04:51
nickrudngmlinux_, and, about 5 years of debian/ubuntu :)04:51
intelikeymustard5 i could ln -s /home/<name>/disk /cdrom  but that would kinda defete part of the purpose.04:51
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intelikeyit looks like i'll have to just to install synaptic and try from there.04:53
mustard5intelikey, yeah..I havent had much luck finding anything in the manuals04:53
ChadzaHey, anyone know what I need to install to watch .wmv's?04:53
_jasonubotu, tell Chadza about w32codecs04:54
ChadzaI already have w32codecs installed.04:54
mustard5intelikey, what about the -m option ?04:54
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_jasonChadza, what player are you using04:54
ChadzaTotem dies on them and .movs and vlc plays the audio, but no video.04:55
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mustard5intelikey, in the apt-cdrom manual there is a -m option that seems vaguely relevant04:55
_jasonChadza, try totem-xine or mplayer04:55
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intelikeyi have removed the cdrom entry from sources.list and apt-get update'd  then apt-cdrom add -m(and-d) /mount/point  and apt-get update. but it still don't find  it.04:55
ChadzaOkay, lemme play.04:55
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mustard5intelikey, hmmm bummer04:55
encompassGood Morning everyone04:55
_jasonChadza, for totem-xine, just isntall the totem-xine package in synaptic (will replace totem-gstreamer).  For mpalyer, ubotu will send you a link04:55
_jasonubotu, tell Chadza about mplayer04:55
mkyb14anyone ever get awstats to work?04:56
Chadza_jason, You are my hero of the day.04:56
encompassI am trying to setup my firewall, is there a way to open ports up without showing they are open... in otherwords I want to open some ports but want themn to remain stealthed.  is that possible?04:57
_jasonChadza, great!04:57
nickrudencompass, I'm not an iptables guru, but I think you can do that only by specifying particular hosts you'd allow to connect04:57
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encompasshmm04:58
encompassyeah04:58
encompassdang, my hosts change04:58
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Chadza_jason, w00t, I can play a vid in totem now that crashed iTunes and Quicktime.04:59
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nickrudencompass, look into dyndns.org, you can get some dns stuff set up there, and name the hosts04:59
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encompasson yet another note.05:00
intelikeywell i've got this install so casterated that it may have something to do with there being no locales installed05:00
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ngmlinux_thanks everybody for the help05:00
ngmlinux_thanks nickrud05:00
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ngmlinux_I'm heading out05:00
encompassdoes anyone know of a company that sells prebuilt ubuntu computers?05:00
nickrudbye ngmlinux_05:00
ngmlinux_getting a bunch of warnings compiling my kernel but no errors yet, fingers crossed05:00
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ngmlinux_later05:00
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intelikeynickrud yeah......05:02
encompasshaha05:02
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encompasscause you can05:02
encompasshaha05:02
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Chadzaencompass, HP was talking about putting it on their laptops, but I haven't checked into it since I heard that this past summer.05:02
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PoWI recently installed the gstreamer xvid codecs, but it seems my audio is way out of sync. Anyone have a clue on how to fix this?05:03
NameeaterI'm trying to install Opera browser, but it complains that it can't get libqt3c102-mt, which it cant because it is now just libqt305:03
Nameeaterwhat can i do to make it install opera anyway?05:03
intelikeyis there a way to remove a vertual package ?05:04
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mustard5Nameeater, I would think there would be ways of installing opera without that lib05:04
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mustard5Nameeater, I've never tried though05:04
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nickrud!opera05:04
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ubotuOpera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser05:04
konfuzedalvyn: hello05:04
mustard5Nameeater, try going over the guide that ubotu showed above05:04
alvynhello evryone05:05
Nameeateri have05:05
Nameeaterit doesn't help me with this package :/05:05
PoWWhat's the command to install .deb files?05:05
PoWpackages*05:05
konfuzedalvyn: even though you may see my name listed on the left05:05
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konfuzedit does not nescesarily mean that I am physically whatching the screen05:05
encompassI want to setup my computer for remote administration threw a graphical and ssh client.  How do I setup gnome to recieve new account logins over the net.  and How do I let the proper ports threw for both ssh and xvnc05:05
intelikeyPoW dpkg -i05:05
intelikeyPoW man dpkg05:05
MoonRangeris their guide or walkthrough for upgrading Firefox in ubuntu to 1.505:05
PoWoh ya05:06
PoWthanks05:06
nickrudNameeater, check to be sure you got the right deb from opera05:06
mustard5Nameeater, it mentions in the guide about the 'qt shared' version ..ist there another version?05:06
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nickrudfirefox1505:06
encompassMoonRanger: shouldn't it do it after a while?05:06
sklavHi guys05:06
encompasshi05:06
nickrud!firefox1505:06
ubotufirefox15 is, like, totally, see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org05:06
NameeaterI tried the repo way so i didn't have to set up all that stuff, but it hasn't worked so i will download the opera.com version now05:06
nickrudMoonRanger, ^^^05:06
mustard5Nameeater, the qt shared version will give you a missing file problem05:06
sklavi think there is an issue with firefox 1.505:07
MoonRangerok05:07
sklavcheck the website before running to install05:07
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sklavi think something about a buffer overflow05:07
mustard5sklav, I have heard some problems about it freezing05:07
sklavmaybe it was that05:07
sklavi read to much security stuff to begin with i might have crossed my wires05:08
mustard5sklav, yeah.. I read a security flaw was discovered or something05:08
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mustard5sklav, and that the flaw caused the freezing05:08
sklavwere :o hehe05:08
sklavafter a while of procrastinating i figured my new project is a to compete with linuxtoda.com05:09
sklavhehe05:09
sklavsee how long before i realize it a dead end attempt05:09
sklavoops linuxtoday.com05:09
sklavis what i meant05:09
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intelikeyhmmm apt-get install language-pack-en-base  wants to install 21.4M of files    lol talk about bloat.05:10
nickrudNameeater, I did aptitutde install libqt3-mt xlibs , and opera*shared*etch installed fine05:10
sklavbetter than all languague packs05:10
sklav;)05:10
GoldfischI was investigating loading airsnort on my ubuntu laptop to play with my wireless madwifi card. Do you guys recommend that or another tool.05:10
intelikeysklav that's just 62m05:11
sklavgo for it all you might pick up a new language05:11
sklav;)05:11
konfuzedhey05:11
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Nameeaternickrud: wierd, i haev both those packages and it still died :)05:11
intelikeydaus to kahn not05:12
sklavi must say my ubuntu servers rocks05:12
techrushi wasnt able to do much with airsnort05:12
Nameeaterdoes the breezy apt source.list have all the extra repo's in it? (multiverse etc)05:12
sklavyes Nameeater05:12
nickrudNameeater, and opera sure looks different to me now :)05:12
nickrudNameeater, not by default, no05:12
mustard5Nameeater, you may need to enable them05:12
sklavyou need to uncomment them05:12
wuminghow can I set the DNS server ?05:12
Nameeateri've uncommented all the lines05:12
intelikey!repos05:12
ubotusomebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource05:12
Nameeaterbut i only see multiverse on the back-ports one05:13
DrBairGoldfisch:  aircrack is much better05:13
Goldfischtechrush: I'm led to believe it uses linux-wlan-ng, which is NOT what I have on my laptop.05:13
nickrudNameeater, add multiverse to every line that has universe in it05:13
GoldfischDrBair: I will check that out.05:13
wuming!dns05:13
ubotuwuming: Do they come in packets of five?05:13
sklavtime to play some socom 305:13
sklavi see you guys later on05:13
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mustard5wuming, you on gnome?05:14
encompassbye05:14
sklavi switched after torvalds said it sucked hehe05:14
wumingmustard5:yes05:14
sklavnot05:14
mustard5wuming, have you tried system>>administration>>networking?05:14
nickrudNameeater, the package I got for ubuntu was opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb05:14
sklavor just edit the /etc/resolv.conf to add dns entries05:15
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Nameeaterfrom the opera repo or their website?05:15
ElitePetei seem to have lost my volume icon can somone help me find it :-)05:15
nickrudNameeater, off the website (I hit the green button)05:15
mustard5ElitePete, add a panel05:15
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ejofeeis there any way i could switch to dapper drake as an upgrade (that is, without reformatting partition)?05:15
wumingmustard5: there is nothing I can do about DNS there~,in the networking tools05:15
Nameeaternod, i tried the repo before, i am downloading from the website now, wanted to save having to fix up the config stuff that isn't added by using the repo x)05:16
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ElitePetemustard5 i did05:16
ElitePetedoesn't show up.05:16
mustard5ElitePete, the volume applet is in Add to panel option05:16
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emanuelHello, is gmake equals to make in ubuntu?05:16
mustard5ElitePete, ah ok05:16
ptloemanuel: gmake == make on all linux distributions05:16
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nickrudI almost never use an outside repo, I'd rather get the strange deb and resolve dependencies myself05:16
ElitePetei hit addd05:16
ElitePeteand it doesn't show up..05:17
mustard5wuming, you don't have a TAB with DNS on it in networking?05:17
emanuelAh... so, I just can add a symlink to make, right?05:17
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mustard5wuming, try editing your etc/resolv.conf file05:17
wumingmustard5:sorry, found it just now05:17
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ElitePetemustard5 i hit add ant it doesn't show up05:17
mustard5ElitePete, maybe its hidden or something05:18
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ElitePetewell, how do i un hide that mofo.05:18
abdulanyone know how to get .wmv files to work on firefox?05:18
mustard5ElitePete, hehehe..I'm not sure..just trying to think of a solution :)05:18
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nickrudabdul, aptitude install totem-xine , and read the following link:05:19
wumingmustard5: I add another dns server, close the program, start the program again, check the dns setting, the one I add isnot there05:19
nickrud!w32codecs05:19
nickrud!tell abdul about 32codecs05:19
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nickrud!tell abdul about w32codecs05:20
nickrudduh05:20
quackerhmmm, anyone here use the ghnuchess or phalanx with the new knghts (kde front end)?05:20
Phoenix1701Hey all...  trying to boot Ubuntu off CD for the first time, and not having a very good time of it.  It doesn't seem to recognize either my Logitech or Kensington keyboard, either plugged into a USB or PS2 port.  Any tips on how to get it to recognize one or the other?05:20
ElitePetecan anyone help me my volume icon has been stolen!05:20
quackerIt just thinks forever -- on the FIRST move.05:20
nickrudElitePete, right click the panel, add->volume control or such05:21
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ElitePetei did, it doesn't show up05:21
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Phoenix1701Anyone have any thoughts on my keyboard issue?05:21
nickrudElitePete, does your sound work?05:22
ElitePeteworks fine05:22
nickrudstrange05:22
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abdulnickrud, im getting an error05:22
ElitePetealsamixer comes up no problem in terminal05:22
ElitePetejust my icon has been stolen05:22
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nickrudElitePete, try switching to another theme, then back05:22
ElitePeteAight05:22
abdulnickrud, please keep in mind im still on hoary hedgehog, i hope you know how to do it on hoary hedgehog05:22
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ubuntu_newbiecan anyone help - trying to upgrade freepops - only .deb available for ubuntu05:23
nickrudabdul, yeah, so, some different advice :005:23
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ElitePetenickrud, no l0ve05:23
Phoenix1701Ookay, I'm going to take everyone's silence as a request for more information, so here goes: the keyboard works fine in the BIOS, but when it gets to the Ubuntu boot prompt the caps lock key no longer causes a light on the keyboard.05:24
Phoenix1701It seems, for all intents and purposes, dead, even though the BIOS liked it just fine.05:24
ce_14thn_jomblohai!05:24
ElitePetePhoenix Breezy or hoary?05:24
nickrudabdul, install mplayer (wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto) then install mozilla-mplayer, and then the w32codecs.05:24
abdul??05:24
Phoenix1701ElitePete: Breezy, just downloaded tonight.05:24
ElitePetehm05:24
Phoenix1701It's Kubuntu, to be precise.05:24
ce_14thn_jombloabdul05:24
abdulyes05:25
Phoenix1701Would a Mac keyboard suffice?  I have a couple of those...05:25
nickrudabdul, that's what I used for media on hoary05:25
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ElitePeteit's usb phoenix?05:25
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ce_14thn_jomblochat sama i yuuu05:25
Phoenix1701Yeah.  Both of 'em are USB...  but I have a USB/PS2 adapter I tried too, no joy.05:25
ElitePetehm.05:25
bz0bhello all05:25
ElitePetei dunno man, tried another usb port?05:25
bz0bhow is everyone tonight?05:25
jordo23_What's the default location for wallpapers in Ubuntu?05:26
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nickrudElitePete, I'm not sure about what you got wrong :) Try creating a new panel, and add it there, for kicks05:26
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bz0bDoes anyone have any ideas on what I should do for a brand new install of ubuntu 5.10 other than an apt-get dist-upgrade?05:26
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Phoenix1701I'm going to try the keyboard on this Mac...  so forgive my silence for a bit.05:27
nickrudbz0b, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:27
ElitePetenope nick05:27
ElitePeteeverything else adds fine05:27
wuminghow to setup a local dns server?05:27
ubuntu_hi all05:27
tipnmoi downloaded the trial of cross over office.. but i dont know how to install it.. i tried follow some directions i found on the ubuntu forums.. but thye didnt work05:27
tipnmoi typed sh install install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh05:28
DrBairtipnmo:  did you chmod +x the file?05:28
nickrudElitePete, at this point, I have no clue. I'd drop out of x, move .gconf out of the way, and try again.05:28
tipnmodrbair: i didnt not... i dont know what chmod is05:28
jessemanstipnmo: just try "sh install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh"05:28
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jordo23_Does anyone know the default wallpaper location for Ubuntu's Gnome?05:29
DrBairtipnmo:  do a man chmod for more info on it.  basically it changes permissions of stuff05:29
jessemanstipnmo: no "install" qualifier05:29
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tipnmoinstall is part of the file name05:29
jessemanstipnmo: you have install in there twice05:29
ardchoillejordo23_: /usr/share/backgrounds ?05:29
tipnmodrbair: ok i am going to try sh install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh05:29
tipnmodrbair: and it worked05:30
tipnmothanks05:30
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jessemanstipnmo: ownage05:30
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jessemanstipnmo: any time you want to run a *.sh, all it needs is a sh in front ... usually05:30
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Squee-DI set up my network card in /etc/network/interfaces and im sure that the right module is loaded (8139too) and the interface shows as up.. yet i cant ping any other machines.05:31
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abduldoes xmms play wmv?05:31
ce_14thn_jomblo??????????????????????///////////05:31
Squee-Dshort of a suddenly dead network cable, is there somthething i can check ?05:31
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ElitePetece* stop spamming05:32
Krhisce_14thn_jomblo, yes, we can see your text. It's working.05:32
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KrhisThank you.05:32
ElitePeteindeed.05:32
abdulnickrud, does XMMS play .wmv?05:32
ElitePeteabdul, i believe xms plays everything with the right codec05:33
nickrudabdul, I'm not sure but I think so. I don't have any .wmv's05:33
nickrud!freeformats05:33
ubotufreeformats is, like, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats05:33
abduli need a codec i quess because its not playing05:34
abdulhow do i install a codec?05:34
ElitePetesudo apt-get install w32 codecs05:34
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nickrud!w32codecs05:34
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Phoenix1701Looks like one keyboard in particular, plugged into the PS2 adapter, actually works.05:34
ubuntu_newbiehow do i install .deb packages?05:34
Phoenix1701So yay.05:34
nickrudabdul, those are for mplayer, which does play wmv's05:34
bimberiubuntu_newbie: sudo dpkg -i file.deb05:35
ElitePete^ what he said05:35
Phoenix1701bimberi: Can't you also do that through the GUI?05:35
ubuntu_newbiethanx05:35
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gp_aaronanyone know if the iRiver PMC120 works with ubuntu?05:35
nickrudPhoenix1701, not yet, but dapper will have an app that can05:35
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Phoenix1701Oh?  Hm.  I thought Aptitude could.05:35
bimberiPhoenix1701: not that i know of05:35
Phoenix1701Curious.  May need to reread the docs.05:36
nickrudPhoenix1701, not a stray deb like that, only ones that exist in a repo05:36
Hentai^XPanyone know a good networking diagram tool for free?05:36
nalioth_jason: may i help you?05:36
abdulit wont let me install them05:36
bimberialt-f2 (run in terminal) perhaps05:36
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nickrudabdul, what won't let you install what?05:37
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abdulterminal, im trying that stuff the link you gave me told me to do05:39
abdulit says : no such file or directory05:39
intelikeyE PPP daemon has died (exit code = 4)     code 4 is ppp not supported by the kernel ?  what am i missing here?05:39
Phoenix1701Hentai^XP: How about Dia?05:39
Hentai^XPDIA?05:39
Hentai^XPhave a url for it?05:39
Phoenix1701Yup.  http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/ <-- Dia.05:39
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rhoffaawhats good for burning .iso images with linux05:40
ryanrhoffaa: using gnome?05:40
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rhoffaaye05:41
ardchoillerhoffaa: you can use graveman or k3b05:41
intelikeyanyone else on dialup ?    could you do a 'lsmod | grep ppp '  for me and tell me the name of the modules loaded for ppp  ?05:41
bimberirhoffaa: nautilus (right-click, write-to cd/dvd)05:41
ryanright click on the iso file,and select "write to disc"05:41
Hentai^XPok Phoenix1701  that will do  seeing it has a win bin05:41
ryanbimberi's quicker ;)05:41
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Phoenix1701Er, you're on Windows?05:41
Hentai^XPPhoenix1701: yes05:41
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rhoffaais nautilus already on gnome?05:41
bimberibut ryan is more correct i think (disc not cd/dvd) :)05:41
rhoffaaubuntu05:41
ryanrhoffaa its the filemanager05:41
Phoenix1701So...  dare I ask, why ask in #ubuntu?  :)05:41
ryanjust go to your homefolder or wherever your iso is05:42
Hentai^XPPhoenix1701: hang out place05:42
Phoenix1701Fair enough.  :)05:42
ryani just finished successfully burning a dvd movie with nautilus, after i made the iso with mkisofs -dvd-video :)05:42
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ryanplays on my home player and everything :D05:43
Phoenix1701Now, if you were using Mac, I'd recommend OmniGraffle instead.05:43
Phoenix1701But I don't know of anything for Windows that approaches that.05:43
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bimberiryan: did you have to shrink it?05:43
intelikeytesting brb05:43
Hentai^XPPhoenix1701:  also collect info05:43
Phoenix1701Ah?  For what?05:43
ryanbimberi: nope05:44
HowiWhat's so good about KDE?  Should I switch to it?  Torvalds says we should here- http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/13/1340215&from=rss05:44
ryanthe movie was only 4.4g as is05:44
Hentai^XPPhoenix1701:  anything05:44
bimberiryan: k :)05:44
nickrudabdul, sorry I was gone for a bit. Which file?05:44
Hentai^XPPhoenix1701:  anything that I come across that might be useful to me05:44
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Phoenix1701Howi: KDE and Gnome are just two different answers to the same question.  I kind of prefer KDE, but a lot of people like Gnome better.05:44
Phoenix1701Short answer, try both and see which you prefer.05:45
Khisanthneither!05:45
ryanbimberi: haven't tried dual layer discs if thats what you mean05:45
n0dluse openbox!05:45
nickrudHowi, there are some interesting comments on http://planet.gnome.org05:45
HowiAh05:45
HowiThanks nickrud05:45
abdulw32codecs or w/e05:46
bimberiryan: no, i've um ripped a DVD and found it to be much bigger than 4.5G, hence the need to shrink to back it up05:46
nickrudabdul, did you download the file to your desktop?05:46
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ryanbimberi: tried dual layer?05:47
abdulwhich file?05:47
ryan        wireless-essid slipgate05:47
ryan        wireless-key 34ef2348f8234fa987ed987af905:47
bimberiryan: no, not yet05:47
ryanignore :)05:47
nickrudabdul, w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb05:47
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ryanbimberi: hehe05:47
abdulfrom?05:47
ryani don't think anyone around here even knows what wifi is ;)05:48
ryanand if they do, woops better change the mostly-useless key :p05:48
bimberi:)05:48
nickrudabdul, there's a link on the page wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, with some very terse instructions05:48
bur[n] eranyone knwo where to get flash8?05:49
nickrudbur[n] er, on windows I believe05:49
bur[n] ernickrud: harhar05:49
Squee-Dryan yeah im thinking limiting connection by MAC is more effective on its own than a WEP key05:49
Squee-Dbur[n] er hes not jokin05:49
nickrudbur[n] er, seriously, is there supposed to be a beta out there (I'd be suprised)05:50
Squee-Dflash 7 player is the highest still for linux afaik05:50
bur[n] eroh... i see, i just checked out macromedia05:50
bur[n] ersad, there's a lil flash game that requires 8 i wanna play ;)05:50
abdulhmm05:50
bur[n] ersilly adobe05:50
Squee-Dadobemedia05:50
Squee-Dor macrobe05:50
bur[n] eri think it's just adobe ;)05:51
Squee-Dyeah i know, but i hate this merger05:51
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bur[n] ery?05:51
jessemansmacrobe! rofl!05:52
jessemanssounds like microbe </end offtopic>05:52
Squee-Dbecause adobe don't know web. And already theyre suggesting a combined pdf-reader/flash-player05:52
Squee-Dooh ditto05:52
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Krhis^^ No flash for me then?05:53
akpcan use flash 8 in ubuntu with ie : http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/05:53
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Squee-Dthat supports activex?05:53
akpi think so05:54
Squee-Did be suprised05:54
akpwhat is the link to the game, I'll test it05:54
Squee-Di'd think you would have better luck with wine05:54
akpits an ie on wine installer, Its recommended by winehq05:55
nickrudKrhis, take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, there's some info on flash on 64bits there, but it's iffy.05:55
KrhisYes, I'm aware of it... but thank you nickrud.05:56
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Squee-Doh i see05:56
Squee-Dwell yeah may have some luck :)05:56
KrhisFlash for me is just another rant. ^^05:56
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nickrudKrhis, then, why did you ask ... oh, I see, I have my own rants05:56
KrhisI try to help here in #ubuntu.05:56
KrhisI also dual boot with Gentoo, 'nuff said.05:57
newbci am looking for a all around great book for linux for christmas and recomended "The Linux Administration Handbook", would you guys agree or should i wait until the 2nd ed comes out, or maybe some other reference05:57
Squee-Dim having a hell time with my network config.05:57
nickrudwell gee, I used to quad boot different lfs versions, but I got wiser :)05:57
Squee-DI cannot ping the router or any other machines on my network05:58
KrhisXD05:58
ejofeewhat's wrong with timidity in ubuntu?05:58
newbcanyone?05:58
Squee-Deth0 is up, and configured correctly as best i can tell05:58
varsendaggerejofee, what do you mean?05:58
bimberinewbc: is that an O'Reilly title.  They're usually very good.  Linux in a Nutshell is another05:58
bimberi?05:59
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nickrudnewbc, I'd suggest the linux cookbook, it's not really a guide but it has a *lot* of great tidbits05:59
ilba7rsquee-d do you have a firewall05:59
newbcno its not an oreilly title05:59
newbcits by evi nemeth05:59
bimberinewbc: k, i don't know it05:59
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jrattner1Is the new firefox in the repositories?06:00
mrkojejrattner1,  no06:00
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Squee-Dlib no - iptables is empty with ACCEPT for each default06:00
Krhis"Linux Desktop Hacks" another good O'Reilly book IMO.06:00
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bimberi!firefox1506:01
uboturumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org06:01
newbci was hoping to get more of an "All-In-ONe" title06:01
KrhisI see what you mean.06:01
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ilba7rbimberi just downlad it from  mozilla it will be up and running no installation needed06:01
newbcand not like a "heres red hat and this is how you install it, oh and some commands over here" kind of book06:02
newbclol ya know06:02
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KrhisI figured a christmas present, so somthing focused towards the Desktop user.06:02
KrhisI see what you mean now.06:02
ilba7rsquee-d did you put your router address in the DNS server list?06:03
bob_4_a_daywell i got the blamed thang on line.... hmmm now what06:03
newbcno but, to develop and exstensive knowledge of the kernel06:03
KrhisCan't give many suggestions then... I live off of man pages. XD06:03
newbci dunno ahah maybe this book i am speaking of does not exist06:03
nickrudnewbc, have you cruised the orielly site? There's a kernel book they have, but I think it's a bit old06:04
bob_4_a_dayanyone know how to remove the timestamp and change the nick colour in irssi ?06:04
KrhisI did see a book the otherday in the store. Had every line of the kernel printed out and comments/suggestions to it.06:04
bimberiilba7r: thanks. (although i did raise the factoid for jrattner1) :)06:05
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ilba7rbimberi just copy the plugins from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to the folder you will use for firefox5 this way everything will work fine06:06
KnowerrorsHey all, trying to get ntpdate to work, tried sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com 14 Dec 21:02:28 ntpdate[4260] : no server suitable for synchronization found, any ideas to fix?06:06
Aviatrixiehi all06:06
KrhisHello, Aviatrixie.06:06
nickrudKnowerrors, i think it's ntp.ubuntulinux.org you want to try06:06
bob_4_a_dayKrhis: "every line of the kernel printed out"  297kg of paper ?06:06
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AviatrixieWell... I took the plunge tonight... stuck a spare 20g hg in my pc. I must say... Ubuntu is well done.  :)06:07
ilba7roh sorry bimberi did not see that take care friend :)06:07
tritiumwoohoo, we're getting a spaceport!06:07
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: pool.ntp.org06:08
Aviatrixiefor the moment my only os is ubuntu06:08
bimberiilba7r: no problem whatsoever :)06:08
KrhisYes, in font size 4 too.06:08
naliothtritium: you DO have lots of space out there, lol06:08
nickrudbob_4_a_day, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576104699/102-6188714-6766525?v=glance&n=28315506:08
Krhis... I'm joking.06:08
bimberitritium: Virgin Galactic?06:08
tritiumnalioth: that's true ;)06:08
tritiumbimberi: yes06:08
KrhisYep, that's it.06:08
Squee-Dilba7r yes i did06:08
Squee-Dbut i cant even ping the router06:08
Knowerrorsnickrud: bob_4_a_day , both of those say no sutiable server for sync found06:08
nickrudKnowerrors, I don't know the problem, but that's what my ntpdate is using06:09
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: then the error is on your box.06:09
ejofeemy home folder is a symlink to my older home folder (from another partition). bash seems to detect this and expands the symlink into the physical path, which i hate. why does it behave like this in ubuntu and how can i change this?06:09
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ilba7rsquee-d than i have no idea except the regular check for ifconfig to see if your configuration is correct06:09
bimberitritium: ah, that spaceport. :)06:09
_jasonejofee, why not just mount your old home folder as /home?06:10
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Squee-Dilba7r yeah it looks perfect. blowing my mind06:10
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ejofee_jason: how can i mount... a dir?!06:10
tritiumbimberi: :)06:10
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ejofee_jason: it is not a whole partition, it is just a dir!06:10
_jasonejofee, ah sorry thought you had a similar setup to mine06:10
Knowerrorsbob_4_a_day: so "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org" should work from command line?06:10
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: yessir06:10
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Knowerrorsarrgh06:10
kevinixhi, i have an unusual problem. xine and totem-xine only run if i am online. it just segfaults otherwise.06:10
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ejofee_jason: yes, i myself am considering using a whole partition as a home partition06:11
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: firewall ?06:11
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Knowerrorsjust the one that comes with breezy bob_4_a_day06:11
kevinixwhen i start xine while online, i'm given the err, "there is no MRL", indicating that xine is looking for an MRL by default. anyway to turn this off?06:11
TraceGreenHello, does anyone  know how to disable mouse and keyboard except pull out the plug?06:12
mrkojeTraceGreen,  what do you mean by "except pull out the plug"?06:13
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TraceGreenmrkoje, well, when i pull out the plug of mouse, of course mouse is useless.06:14
Squee-Dhe means 'in software'06:14
varsendaggerAviatrixie, what all do you like?06:14
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: if you have activated iptables via firestarter you may have the ntp port blocked.  i just snyced my clock with 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc '   it works  and using the "pool." you always hit a server.06:14
TraceGreenSquee-D, yeah.06:15
mrkojeTraceGreen,  You want, of course, to enable it and disable it through software06:15
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TraceGreenyeah, mrkoje :-)06:15
Aviatrixievarsendagger... in ubuntu? I like that it found everything in my system.06:16
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Knowerrorsbob_4_a_day: you know how to unblock that port?06:16
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AviatrixieWell... except I don't think it knows what the USB to my UPS is for.  ;)06:16
mrkojeTraceGreen,  Hmm...  I don't really know06:16
ejofeew3m is cool. hadn't heard of it before ubuntu.06:17
KrhisMotherboard option perhaps?06:17
mrkojeTraceGreen,  You could probably stop the kernal from loading the mouse driver...06:17
TraceGreenmrkoje, well, i once try to unload modules of them, but i can't unload usbcore.06:17
mrkojeTraceGreen,  so its a usb mouse... hmm06:17
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: i don't even know for sure what port it uses.  i thought it was 25 but that doesn't seem to be it.....  sorry no.06:17
TraceGreenmrkoje, yeah06:17
MikeI've got a quick question for whoever has time to help out. I have a laptop with wireless, and I can't get internet to work wirelessly, I am currrently running in windows to be online now. would anyone know how to get my wireless card to work?06:17
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mrkojeTraceGreen,  well your not going to want to stop usb anyway... maybe search for some 3rd party software...06:18
kevinixejofee, apt-get install w3m-img to be able to view web images in the shell. nice ;)06:18
TraceGreenmrkoje, do you mean i can't unload usb mouse driver?06:18
alambamike: whats the laptop model?06:18
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ejofeekevinix: wow!! thanks!06:19
rohanhi all06:19
bob_4_a_dayKnowerrors: you could drop the firewall and sync your clock  'sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop ' maybe.06:19
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_RocHit takes forever to install on celeron 377 / 64MB..06:19
MikeCompaq HP Presario V400006:19
mrkojeTraceGreen,  You probably could probably stop the mouse from loading by passing somthing into the boot argument06:19
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Knowerrorsbob_4_a_day: thx, will try06:19
mrkojeTraceGreen,  I just don't know enough about what you want to pass as an argument to stop the mouse from loading06:19
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rohanwhen will the ubuntu dapper preview be out ? is there some kind of a roadmap out there ?06:19
ejofeekevinix: it seems it's w3m-img is not in any repo :(06:19
kevinixejofee, hmm, shame06:20
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alambamike: do you have a button that says wireless or on top or has the wireless symbol...06:20
naliothrohan: there is a dapper build available now (flight-1)06:20
rohannalioth: flight-2 is out :)06:20
mrkoje!wifi06:20
ubotuwell, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:20
Amaranthflight 2 is out, actually06:20
polpaknalioth, actually flight2 is out06:20
warrenganybody know where i could get an animated GIF of the default ubuntu "waiting" cursor? or how to convert the xcursor /usr/share/icons/Human/cursors/watch to an animated gif?06:20
TraceGreenmrkoje, thanks.06:20
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mrkojeubotu tell Mike about !wifi06:20
rohannalioth: bu i am kinda waiting for something more reliable, like a preview release ...06:20
rohan*but06:20
naliothrohan: see? you are more up to date than i am.06:20
Amaranthmrkoje: no !06:20
Mikeyes, that and volume control; the buttons do not appear to work06:20
rohannalioth: lol.06:20
Mikeand I have tried pushing that, but there was no effect06:21
polpakrohan, you'll have to wait a bit longer then06:21
mrkojeAmaranth, ?06:21
phosphoricxhey guys, quick question, how can I setup LD_LIBRARY_PATH to be set on startup?06:21
bob_4_a_daywhats the url to the hoary multiverse ?06:21
polpakrohan, ubuntu is on a 6 month release cycle06:21
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alambaok...here's your solution...boot into ubuntu...click on system>admin>networking06:21
largosdoes anyone know what package I can find all the gcc man pages in? (eg: man malloc)06:21
mrkojeAmaranth, I'm not sure....06:21
Amaranthmrkoje: 'ubuntu tell Mike about !wifi' shouldn't have that !06:21
polpakphosphoricx,  why would you want to? (just curious)06:21
alambaclick on the wireless link and click activate...then press that button...twice...the wireless light will come on and the link will get activated06:21
BenClargos: they are libc manpages, not gcc, and it's manpages-dev06:22
alambaassuming you have DHCP u will also get ip now06:22
rohanpolpak: right. but what i am really looking for is a roadmap06:22
ejofeekevinix: in fact, it is :)) (took a better look)06:22
largosBenC: ah, thanks06:22
naliothlargos: manpages-dev  ?06:22
mrkojeAmaranth,  no !?06:22
mrkojeubotu tell Mike about wifi06:22
Mikethank you alamba06:22
alambai have an HP laptop too and this seems to be a problem06:22
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mrkojeAmaranth,06:22
alambau're welcome06:22
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Mikeoh, I see06:22
Amaranthmrkoje: should have worked that time06:23
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swimhey folks I forgot what package has all the apps for building apps from source?06:23
Aviatrixieso... I've commited to Ubuntu. Geez... sounds like I'm getting married! Anyway... I'm fed up with M$... put my big hd aside and dedicated a whole drive to Ubuntu.Googled it to death and now have it configured. Now the fun begins... I have to learn how to apt-get!!! Or... at least how to Synaptic?06:23
mrkojeAmaranth,  ya... I haven't used the ubotu as much as i should be06:23
mrkoje!beer06:23
polpakswim, build-essential06:23
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swimthx polpak06:23
ilba7rswim build-sessentials06:23
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mrkojelol06:23
swimcheers :)06:23
polpakAviatrixie, welcome in =)06:23
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bob_4_a_dayilba7r: no s06:24
polpakAviatrixie, I gave up on MS 4 months ago. Haven't looked back06:24
Aviatrixiedanke polpak06:24
_cedrici i have a kubuntu cd... but i prefere gnome i dont want to download a whole ubuntu cd again... is there a way to make a server installation then add gnome... a little bit the kind of process we need to go trough to get xubuntu06:24
Amaranthhrm, i thought it hugged back06:24
ilba7rtoo sleepy sorry bob_4_a_day :)06:24
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Amaranth_cedric: sure, boot the CD with the server option06:24
bob_4_a_dayoh crap.   i'm lagging 20 seconds..... never mind me.06:24
Mikeok, thank you to alamba, ubotu, and mrkoje06:24
nalioth_cedric: yes, server + "ubuntu-desktop" will do it06:24
AviatrixieI've delved deep into linux in the last few months.... like it bunches06:24
Amaranth_cedric: You'll have to download a bunch of stuff still06:24
_cedricnp06:24
mrkojeMike, have fun.... especially if you have wpa!06:25
AviatrixieLinus seems to like KDE over Gnome.... any opinions?06:25
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bob_4_a_daybe back later.06:25
polpakAviatrixie, anyway, apt-get and/or synaptic is easy06:25
mrkojeMike,  thats what I am working on now... the wpasupplicant06:25
_cedricsame process as xubuntu-desktop but with ubuntu-desktop if i correctly understand06:25
polpakAviatrixie, it's really personal taste.06:25
naliothAviatrixie: in #ubuntu-offtopic with your opinions query, please06:25
polpakAviatrixie, the whole "Linus prefers KDE" thing is way overblown06:25
mrkoje!wpa06:25
ubotufrom memory, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"06:25
Aviatrixiepolpak... I'm sure they are. But I'm a total newbie.06:25
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polpakAviatrixie, I'd just stick with Gnome for now. It'll be most familiar to you coming from a windows environment06:26
polpakbut that's just my opinion06:26
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alambawhats the wpasupplicant?06:26
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Aviatrixiepolpak... I think you're right. I like keeping it simple for now.06:27
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polpakAviatrixie, you can always switch later if you want. That's the great thing about linux06:27
polpakYou have choices06:27
_cedrichey! i heard a new development release is up...06:27
_cedricfinal release should be out on april?06:27
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polpak_cedric, that sounds about right06:28
cafuegomrkoje: Simply install wpasupplicant, run wpa_passwd and save the output to the cfg file.06:28
nalioth_cedric: there'll be a final release every 6 months06:28
sethkAviatrixie, I'm addicted to the alt-right button mouse command in KDE06:28
sethkAviatrixie, although there may be a way to get that behavior from gnome06:28
cafuego_cedric: Yes. That prerelease fails to boot on my iBook.06:28
_cedrichow cool is that06:28
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_cedricnyway out for installation!06:28
sethkAviatrixie, I don't feel that gnome is better (nor worse) for a newbie than kde06:28
mrkojecafuego,  I don't have the laptop up and running at the moment... I will do it later. i do remember doing that once.. from the "howto" however it didn't like my psk06:28
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mrkojecafuego,  oh well... will give it another go around06:29
mrkojecafuego,  in the future06:29
phosphoricxany ideas on the environmental variable on startup?06:29
mrkoje!acpi06:29
ubotumrkoje: Do they come in packets of five?06:29
sethkphosphoricx, I didn't hear the question, what was it?06:29
nickrudphosphoricx, I have some ideas about some of them, which one are you thinking of?06:30
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phosphoricxI want to add an environment variable to my startup06:30
phosphoricxit's LD_LIBRARY_PATH06:30
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phosphoricxjust wondering which file06:30
phosphoricxto put it in06:30
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nickrudphosphoricx, .bash_profile or /etc/profile06:30
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phosphoricxwhen does that get called?06:30
dashoffenHi, Just wondering Has anyone been able to get hardware acceleration to work with a Radeon 9800 and Ubunu 5.10?06:31
polpakphosphoricx, when you log in.. But why did you want it set?06:31
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polpakdashoffen, yes06:31
Mikeok, thanks to everyone again for the help, I gotta get going. see ya later06:31
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polpakdashoffen, did you follow the ATI portion of the getting started wiki?06:32
AviatrixieSeth... sorry... was afk... at this point I have no opinions about kde or gnome.... tho I do like fluxbox. Understand... I'm a total newbie... but I'm also a fast study.06:32
aztekhow do i go about booting the stock kernel for ubuntu06:32
dashoffen? no06:32
nickrudaztek, just boot, the stock kernel is the default boot06:32
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Squee-D2he means 'in software'06:32
Squee-D2err apologies - two keyboards on the desk06:32
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Kyral#ubuntu never sleeps lol06:33
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polpakdashoffen, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver06:33
phosphoricxpolpak, because I'm using amd64 and I need to pull some libs out of chroot to run it06:33
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azteknickrud: i installed the newest ati drivers and the instructions i followed said it would create changes to the kernel. is there a way to tell whether or not i'm running a stock one?06:34
dashoffenpolpak, thank you06:34
etybolikquick question. Is it possible to get sound in flash (or google video to be specific)06:34
etybolik?06:34
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polpakaztek, why not just use the ati driver wiki instructions in the getting started guide?06:35
polpakdashoffen, np06:35
nickrud!ati06:35
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:35
haffeHello. Does anyone here now how to setup dri support for the mach64?06:35
swimcould anyone tell me the name of the package for x includes?06:36
nickrudaztek, I don't use ati, but I've heard reliable sources say you should use the new ati ones, if you have a laptop (if I recall correctly)06:36
Amaranthhaffe: err, i don't think you can06:36
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tritiumswim: xlibs-dev06:36
Amaranthhaffe: I've never even heard of that arch :P06:36
swimthx tritium06:36
nalioth!xincludes06:37
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev06:37
azteki downloaded the fresh ones from ati it didn't seem to work. x doesn't start so i redid my xorg.conf to boot the "ati" driver now i seem to have performance problems where none existed prior to trying to install the drivers. i guess i'm trying to just start over. wow that's long.06:37
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techrushati 3d acceleration is such a pain to get working in linux :(06:37
TheOmnipotentWanHey...I accidentally removed my system tray from a panel...Can anyone tell me how to put it back?  I went through the 'Add to Panel" menu and didn't see anything that looked right.06:37
aztekso i'm discoverin06:37
aztekg06:37
polpaktechrush, I haven't found that to be true06:37
tritiumubotu's xincludes info is odd, since xlibs-dev already depends on xlibs-static-dev06:38
polpaktechrush, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver pretty much worked right out of the box for my ATI Radeon 980006:38
techrushpolpak you havent had the joy of tryign to get my 3d crd working then :P06:38
AviatrixieFunny... my ATI was set up without any probs in ubuntu06:38
azteki guess you're just smarter than us06:38
techrushmine hasnt worked right in 3 diff distros06:39
sethkphosphoricx, add the definition to $HOME/.bashrc06:39
sethkphosphoricx, if you use bash as your shell06:39
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sethkphosphoricx, if you want to add it for multiple users, you can set it an initialization file in /etc06:39
nickrudand xlibs-dev is just a subset of x-window-system-dev06:39
polpakAviatrixie, did you follow the wicki? or do you not have DRI enabled?06:39
nderjmHas anyone gotten the Canon i250 to work in Breezy?06:40
phosphoricxsethk, that sounds good06:40
nderjmI guess thats a no06:41
nderjmThe forums were of no help06:41
nderjmdead threads06:41
lackingWhen I try to play Totem I get Video codec 'MS WMV 8 (win32)' is not handled. What does this mean?06:41
polpak!restricted06:41
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:41
ElitePetelacking have you installed all the video codecs?06:41
polpaklacking, read the wiki ubotu mentioned06:41
AviatrixieNo... I'm not smarter than you. I'm here because this distro works on my PC. Mepis didn't. Mandrake didn't. Linspire didn't. DSL did (sorta) and Beatrix did well (it's an Ubuntu offshoot) but it wouldn't install. Ubuntu worked perfectly from the start.06:42
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sethknderjm, what are you working on?06:42
nickrudlacking, you're using the gstreamer version of totem; install totem-xine and do that restricted page06:42
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polpakAviatrixie, you should install your drivers if you intend on playing any games06:42
lackingYeh I followed the faqs music and movies section ElitePete.06:42
nderjmsethk: Im trying to get a Canon i250 printer working on Breezy06:42
sethknderjm, usb?06:42
ElitePetelacking, weird..06:42
nderjmsethk: yes06:43
sethknderjm, what problem are you seeing?06:43
Aviatrixiepolpak... I don't play games. Well... occasionally solitaire.06:43
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nderjmsethk: after the drivers install and the printer is detected and setup it does not print.  The most I have gotten is a blink.06:43
nickrudlacking, that section of the faq is not exactly prime, but I think it has been fixed for dapper06:43
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polpakAviatrixie, well no time like the present to start ;)06:44
gnudeTrying to apt-get a new package (deb) on ubuntu.  How do I specify a particular package?06:44
sethknderjm, when you install the printer, does it show a line in the usb ports list with the name of the printer in it?06:44
Aviatrixielol06:44
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lackingnickrud, dapper?06:44
sethknderjm, in the part of the config where you choose the printer connection?06:44
nickrudgnude, sudo apt-get install <package name>06:44
nickrudlacking, the next release06:44
newbcwhen people get binary source code, what do they actually do with it?06:44
nderjmsethk: Yes.  Canon i250 and Canon i250 with feedback06:44
lackingah ok.06:44
gnudenickrud,  where do I put the package I want to inst.06:44
gnudedoes it matter06:45
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polpaknewbc, binary source code?06:45
nickrudlacking, sudo apt-get install totem-xine , then do the w32codecs on the restricted page.06:45
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sethknderjm, will it print on the same machine running windows?06:45
polpaknewbc, a contradiction in terms06:45
newbcsorry, just i dont understand what it means to release a binary of something06:45
TheOmnipotentWanI accidentally removed the system tray from a panel.  I went through the add to panel window but didn't see anything.  Anyone know how I can get it back?06:45
nickrudgnude, the package already knows where it will be installed06:45
newbchow can a human make use of that06:45
tritiumgnude: you know that we don't allow gnudity here, right?06:45
Aviatrixiepolpak... I came mostly to lurk. I'm extremely happy with 5.10 so far. It's a really well done os.06:45
gnudenewbc, you get the source to compile the binary.  It works great and gives you a chance to modify the source code to fit your needs.06:45
nderjmsethk: Dont have windows on it.  But it works with the TurboPrint drivers.  but those are not free.  the demo version prints a huge watermark in the middle of the page06:45
polpaknewbc, a binary is program which has been compiled from source to run on a particular archetecture06:45
aztekgnude, are you trying to install a package you have as a file on your machine?06:46
tonyyarussoHow can I make Firefox start up to a particular profile if none is specified, rather than the last one used?06:46
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sethknderjm, ok, that proves out the hardware and USB compatibility06:46
nderjmsethk: yup06:46
gnudeaztek,  yeah, it's newer than repository for synaptic, and i downloaded it.06:46
gnudeaztek,  yeah it's on my box06:46
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nickrudtonyyarusso, firefox -P profile06:47
gnudetritium,  I am totally decent06:47
sethknderjm, what I would do, although it takes a while to do it, is to sniff the USB bus while it is printing with the turboprint drivers.  Then sniff when printing with the cups driver (free), and compare the streams.06:47
newbck makes sense, so the source to (for example a c++ program) can be written and compiled into machine code, is there a backwards compatability to binary?06:47
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DShepherdhey06:47
DShepherdsup?06:47
newbcin that, can i take a binary and make it a readable language06:47
tonyyarussonickrud: So do I need to change the launchers to include the switch?06:47
tritiumgnude: :)06:47
gnudenewbc,  no binaries, which is all apps except scripts are human readible unless your a psycho brain.06:47
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nderjmsethk: How would I do that?06:48
aztekgnude, then you want to use dpkg if that's the case06:48
polpaknewbc, C and C++ source code is compiled into machine language. It's compatable so long as the machine language remains compatible06:48
gnudeaztek,  just a dpkg -i pkgname?06:48
sethknderjm, I'm looking back through my notes.  I was about a year ago that I set up USB bus sniffing.06:48
nickrudtonyyarusso, yes, I would think so. firefox --help will tell you some other stuff you might want to know06:48
aztekgnude, yeah if you have the .deb file on your pc. apt-get is only going to scan the online repositories06:48
tonyyarussonickrud: Okay, thanks.06:48
newbcare there people who can legitimatly read binary06:48
sethknderjm, one time I talked a USB bus analyzer vendor into leaving me a hardware sniffer for a few days to evaluate.  :)06:48
polpaknewbc, but it is very difficult to make changes to in binary form06:49
newbcnot just like the simple number structures06:49
sethknewbc  11  000  101   01010  001   11110106:49
gnudeaztek,  is there a basic way to over-ride the locations of dependencies that the package will need, since I have some CVS stuff I'm running too.06:49
phosphoricxsethk, how can I setup an initialization file in /etc ?06:49
gnudeaztek,  thanks for the clar. vis apt-get06:49
nderjmsethk: ok.  i noticed one difference between the turbo print and the regular driver.  Turns out the TP driver is printing to ipp://usb://Canon/i25006:49
tritiumnewbc: as they say, there are only 10 kinds of people06:49
gnudesethk,  you are cussing again in binary you dirty.06:49
nderjmsethk: but the free driver still doesnt work when i set it to use that06:50
tonyyarussonickrud: What do the % things mean?  (As in, firefox %u, what my launcher says now.)  Those aren't in the help.06:50
aztekgnude, uh i dunno :) i just started using Ubuntu on my laptop since FreeBSD isn't as user friendly on the go :)06:50
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sethknderjm, that uri doesn't really make sense to me.  I doubt that's relevant.06:50
nderjmsethk: that uri is for network printing06:50
sethktonyyarusso, that's a substitution06:50
nderjmsethk: seems to work over usb06:50
tonyyarussosethk: For?06:50
gnudeaztek, I'll try thanks let you know.06:50
DShepherdhey nderjm!06:50
sethktonyyarusso, in that case, I believe %u is replaced with the user name06:50
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aztekgnude, man dpkg :)06:51
sethknderjm, ok, but as you said it doesn't change the behavior.  I said it didn't make sense to _me_, not that it doesn't make sense at all.06:51
tonyyarussosethk: Ah.  Do you know what %s is, or where I could find a list of these?06:51
derekSif evolution-data-server crashed, how i start it back up again?06:51
sethktonyyarusso, let me see if I can put my fingers on a list.  It's burried in the docs somewhere.06:51
gnude=|06:51
AviatrixieWell... I guess I should go. Polpak... are you an op here?06:52
polpakAviatrixie, nope06:52
DShepherdnderjm: you presenting any topic tomorrow?06:52
polpakAviatrixie, but I'm around a bit06:52
sethktonyyarusso, one trick you might do is to create a dummy app that does nothing but print its own command line.  Then you can start it with %s, and see what %s is translated to.06:52
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Aviatrixieok... you seemed friendly... like an op.06:52
nderjmDShepherd: not that I know of06:52
AviatrixieI used to op a board.06:52
tonyyarussosethk: I have no idea how to do such a thing.06:53
newbcis a hard drive divided into bytes, or groups of 8 bits, and are the locations of each byte as specific to the bit06:53
KazidheaHey guys  :)  tryed to install Dapper but ran into some problems ( but dunno where to report this ). When I installed Breezy, my Intel Minipci 2200bg was detected and i could select it as my default NIC   but in dapper it refuse to give me the choice between my 2 cards   any ideas?06:53
polpakAviatrixie, nope, just a friendly guy.06:53
Aviatrixieniters.  :)06:53
DShepherdnderjm: I would like to see that script that you wrote with the calendar thingy..06:53
polpakAviatrixie, bye06:53
newbcor does it depend on the formating06:53
nderjmDShepherd: sure06:53
DShepherdnderjm: and more on your policy.. I mean alteroo's policy06:53
polpaknewbc, depends on the fs06:53
AviatrixieI'm totally green to Linux... think I'll go google apt-get06:53
AviatrixieLOL06:53
sethktonyyarusso, the first part is easy.  You just create a shortcut to your (to be written) program.  in C or python it would be a three or four line program.06:53
nderjmDShepherd: Oh yeah, I have a draft06:53
AviatrixieIt's all gnu to me06:54
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polpakAviatrixie, you should start w/ synaptic06:54
polpakAviatrixie, it's pretty easy to use and find what you're looking for06:54
DShepherdnderjm: kool you can update us on that then06:54
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polpakAviatrixie, it's under your System menu under Administration06:54
tonyyarussosethk: Just how much C or python would this involve learning, as I've never ventured near either.06:54
Aviatrixiepolpak: I'll look into it.06:54
Aviatrixiepolpak: I promise  ;)06:55
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muszekhi06:55
sethktonyyarusso, I have to check, but I believe the entire python program would consist of     print $ARGV06:55
arrikdoes anyone know how to get network-manager set up?06:55
muszekare there any native English speaker here?06:55
DShepherdnderjm: dont see you here often. problems?06:55
muszekspeakers06:55
sethktonyyarusso, let me play with it a bit.06:55
polpaksethk, that's perl. python doesn't use $06:55
newbcyeah native english here <=06:55
nderjmsethk: yup.  trying to setup a canon printer on a friends box that i just out ubuntu on06:55
nderjmsethk: sorry, wrong person06:56
DShepherdnderjm: ok06:56
sethkpolpak, that's true, although $ARGV (for me) isn't perl.  It's ruby.  :)06:56
nderjmDShepherd: yup.  trying to setup a canon printer on a friends box that i just out ubuntu on06:56
mrkojemuszek,  seriously?06:56
sethkpolpak, but you are correct, no $ in python06:56
polpakmuszek, many of us are native english speakers. (or near enough)06:56
nderjmDShepherd: Imagine, got the WINMODEM working!  Only to die with the printer :(06:56
DShepherdnderjm: lol06:56
sethktonyyarusso, I'll play with this a bit.06:56
DShepherdnderjm: life is soo fun sometimes06:56
newbcwhat is ruby on rails, actually in laymans terms what does it do06:57
tonyyarussosethk: All right, let me know what happens.06:57
muszekI need another nicer word for "characteristic"... "every player has *** named "aggression", which tells you if he likes to play tough"06:57
muszekwhat word would you use?06:57
newbca quality06:57
polpaknewbc, ruby is a scripting language like python, lua, perl, etc06:58
newbcohh, i see06:58
qt2err, are ctorrent or rtorrent available in the repos? i dont see them anywhere, but they used to be there.06:58
newbcand the rails program is like an ide for it06:58
newbc?06:58
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polpaknewbc, a scripting language is one which does not need to be compiled. It is instead run through an interpreter which then performs the instructions in the script06:58
mrkojenewbc,  http://www.rubyonrails.org06:58
aztekwell this stinks06:58
newbck06:58
muszekhmmm... wouldn't "quality" imply whether it's good to have high/low aggression?06:58
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azteki run the wiki instructions for the ati drivers, i get a dialog box to pick my version of ubuntu but it doesn't fit on my screen. i don't know how to continue06:59
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newbcyeah it would06:59
DShepherdnderjm: you know I havent really tried ubuntu with a printer yet06:59
muszekhow about something neutral?06:59
mrkojenewbc,  or you can goto the ruby irc  at  #ruby  or  #rubyonrails06:59
muszek"every building has a *** named <<height>>"06:59
newbchmm07:00
newbcattribute07:00
polpakmuszek, attribute?07:00
newbclol07:00
muszekthank you :D07:00
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muszeklol07:00
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newbcproperty would work too prob07:01
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muszekthanks and have a nice $your_time_of_day guys... bye07:02
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swimhow can I extract a deb?07:02
arrikanyone know how to set up Network-Manager?07:02
cafuegoswim: dpkg -x07:02
swimthx cafuego07:02
aztekis there a way to make my desktop "larger than my screen"? so that when i mouse to the edge my desktop moves07:03
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intelikeythis looks more to my like'ing   ;)07:03
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cafuegoswim: it's highly likely not what you want, though.,07:03
intelikeyswim  man dpkg07:04
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swimcafuego: Im trying to replace some files in baghira with moded ones... and then to make a deb again... im having trouble building baghira from source (at least with the moded files in it)07:04
nickrudswim, if you just want to see what's inside, double click it; it'll open in archive manager07:04
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sethkaztek, make the virtual desktop size larger than the physical desktop size in xorg.conf07:05
cafuegoswim: How is it failing when you add modded files?07:05
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Krassyhi07:06
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intelikeyhmmm is there a facelity for spliting and rejoining a file that is too large for a floppy that i need to transfer via floppy   or do i need to dd and cat >>  the thing?07:06
KrassyMy ISP do not have DNS what i have to do ?07:06
cafuegoKrassy: Add 202.125.40.14307:06
swimcafuego: like this: http://pastebin.ca/3374507:07
cafuegoKrassy: ... in resolv.conf07:07
KrassyThanx07:07
benplautwhat's the header for a bash script?07:07
benplauti forgot :/07:07
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sethkintelikey, you can use the --multi-volume feature of tar07:07
polpak#!/bin/bash07:07
nickrud#! /bin/bash07:07
shad0w1eHi. I'm running a custom-compiled kernel with no USB support and now I want to add USB as a kernel module. How can I approach that?07:07
benplautthanks07:07
benplautcouldn't remember is it was was ! or a $07:07
intelikeysethk hmmm ok.07:08
cafuegoKrassy: Actually, the DNS servers for your ISP are: 212.72.202.2 and 212.72.202.807:08
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cafuegoswim: Looks like your mods broke the code.07:09
arrikhttp://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=files&show_dlfile=313     anyone know why firefox keep strying to open the download in the webbrowser?07:09
swimcafuego: oh hmm07:09
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polpakarrik, because of the content type being returned from the server07:09
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regeyawhee07:10
arrikso how do i download it as a file?07:10
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cafuegoarrik: right-click, save link as...07:11
polpakarrik, wget <url>07:11
polpakarrik, or if it's a link you can right click/save as like cafuego says07:11
Krassydo Ubunto have iptraf or something ?07:11
tonyyarussoarrik: I think there's also a Firefox extension that lets you put a URL in a box and do a direct download.07:11
cafuego!info iptraf07:11
ubotuiptraf: (Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor), section net, is optional. Version: 2.7.0-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 155 kB, Installed size: 728 kB07:11
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cafuegoYes, it does.07:11
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arriktonyyarusso where do i get that?07:12
Krassyhow can i start iptraf ?07:12
tonyyarussoarrik: Let me look for a minute.07:12
arrikIt keeps wanting to save "modules.php"07:12
cafuegoKrassy: Install it, cehck the documentation.07:12
arrikwhen i'm trying to download the .run file07:12
cafuegoHaha, phpnuke is broken07:12
sethkarrik, right click on the link, select save-as07:12
arriksethk i did that, it's not saving the correct file07:13
sethkarrik, then the web site has a coding error.07:13
arrikthat's wierd, i can download the windows .exe version fine07:14
sethkarrik, so?07:14
intelikeynothing wierd about that07:14
arriksethk so how do you screw up the linux version and not the windows version?07:15
tonyyarussoarrik: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Download%20Tools&numpg=10&id=43507:15
tonyyarussoarrik: It hasn't been modified for FF1.5 yet though, if that's an issue.07:15
sethkarrik, you make a typo on the link line.  it's just a path; any path can have a typo in it.07:15
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intelikeyarrik "screw up" is your perspective of what is taking place there.07:15
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dragoonwhat would cause ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted07:15
dragoonas a normal user07:16
PoWAnyone play WoW on ubuntu?07:16
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polpakPoW, Ibelieve there are ppl who do yes07:16
KrassyHow i can start console window ?07:17
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shad0w1eKrassy: run Konsole or xterm07:17
polpakKrassy, konsole, gterm or xterm, or just ctl-alt-f107:17
intelikeyKrassy for a console press  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]     but you probably dont want a console you probably want a terminal.07:18
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dragoonwhat could cause ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted07:21
dragoonas a normal user07:21
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intelikeyinsuffecent permissions maybe07:22
dragoonto what07:22
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intelikeyidk07:22
dragoonhas been working fine07:22
dragoonidk /07:22
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chamilton_hello07:23
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ElitePetehi07:23
Overclocked_486Hey, I'm using the Korn shell and I'm having trouble with my environment variables such as $MAIL. They keep getting purged when I close Xterm. Is there a way I can make them stick around?07:23
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Overclocked_486any takers?07:25
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Phoenix1701Hey guys, I just got Ubuntu up and running (w00!) but I'm noticing it's not running an SSH server by default...  should I get openssh, or is there something already built in, and in either case how do I make it launch at startup?  I'm also noticing it has no dev tools or anything of the like, so I'm installing gcc and make and gdb manually...  is there a shortcut for installing all the common dev tools automatically?07:25
Methynutnuthoooooooly moly I love breezy, thank you thank you thank you for off-the-bat audigy ls support! hahaha07:25
Phoenix1701Overclocked_486: Unfortunately I'm not familiar with ksh...07:25
Squee-D2phoenix build-esssentials07:25
sethkPhoenix1701, get openssh07:25
Phoenix1701Usually what you need in that case is a setenv or an export or something like that.07:25
Overclocked_486Phoenix1701: openSSH is listed in Synaptic. Installing's a snap.07:25
intelikeyOverclocked_486 you asking about an rc file to load your vars or what ?      you don't want your $MAIL in system area07:25
sethkOverclocked_486, add them to $HOME/.bashrc07:26
Phoenix1701Okay, cool.  So how do I get OpenSSH to run at startup automatically?07:26
sethkPhoenix1701, the install does that for you07:26
Phoenix1701And Squee-D2: build-essentials gives you gcc and whatnot?07:26
Phoenix1701sethk: Awesome, should have known it'd be easy.  This distro rocks.07:26
intelikeysethk bashrc for kcsh ?07:26
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sethkintelikey, ksh is usually a link to .bashrc07:27
Overclocked_486intelikey: If I say "MAIL=~/Mail", then "echo $MAIL", it echoes "/home/overclocked/Mail". Then if I close the terminal emulator, open a new one and "echo $MAIL" I get an empty line.07:27
mrkojesethk,  is that the korn shell07:27
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Overclocked_486yes, ksh == Korn shell07:27
sethkmrkoje, usually, although sometimes ksh is a link to bash, or to zsh07:28
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mrkojesethk,  oh ok07:28
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Squee-D2Im completely owned, i cannot get networking running under ubuntu07:28
skiingseanhello i am by far a native ubuntu user, but what would root pw be on a live cd07:28
sethkmrkoje, and bash is supposedly ksh compatible.  zsh really is ksh compatible07:28
sethkskiingsean, empty07:28
Overclocked_486sethk: is there a specific place I should put that?07:28
sethkOverclocked_486, anywhere in .bashrc (or .kshrc, whichever is correct),   export MAIL=/var/spool/mail07:29
sethkOverclocked_486, I made up the value of MAIL, but you know what I mean07:29
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skiingseansethk, su -   empty password fails07:29
sethkskiingsean, without the -?07:29
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intelikeyOverclocked_486 mmm export the line you use  MAIL=/MAIL   or what ever it is.07:29
skiingseanfailed07:29
Overclocked_486sethk: so if I want fetchmail to send the stuff to ~/Mail, then let procmail sort it, $MAIL should still be ~/Mail?07:29
Overclocked_486intelikey: I did. That's the rub.07:30
sethkOverclocked_486, I would have to check the fetchmail docs, but most likely.07:30
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skiingseansethk, still fails07:30
sethkOverclocked_486, you can specify a mailbox explicitly with fetchmail, which is a better option07:30
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Krassywhat is root password on first start for ubuntu live DVD ?07:30
sethkskiingsean, let me see if I can reboot a machinee with the live cd07:30
Overclocked_486sethk: in my .fetchmailrc?07:30
skiingseansethk,  :) thanks much I appreciate it07:31
intelikeyKrassy there isn't one.07:31
sethkOverclocked_486, for delivery location?  yes, in the rc file07:31
sethkskiingsean, do this:    sudo passwd07:31
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sethkskiingsean, then enter a password at the prompt07:31
sethkskiingsean, then that password should subsequently work with su07:31
aztekalright so i'm stumped. i am using the wiki instructions to install the ATI drivers on my laptop. the dialog to pick Ubuntu 5.10 to do a custom distro install stretches beyond my screen and i can't click on continue. :(07:32
skiingseansethk, hey thanks!07:32
skiingseansethk, it works07:32
sethkskiingsean, good.  :)07:32
skiingsean:)07:32
Krassyi can`t log as root in terminal window07:32
Overclocked_486sethk: I guess I was doing it the lazy way...07:32
techrushaztek i ran into that problem once before...07:33
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techrushnever figured it out :/07:33
Phoenix1701What do you guys think the chances are of this hosing my system?  I have had bad experiences with dpkg in the past...07:33
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intelikeyaztek ever think of  holding down left alt and  left mouse button to move the whole screen ?07:33
sethkOverclocked_486, nothing wrong with the lazy way in this case.  I just prefer setting it explicitly.  nothing to remember.07:33
aztekholy cow07:33
aztekno i didn't07:34
aztek<- noob07:34
aztek:D07:34
aztekthanks07:34
intelikey:)07:34
sethkaztek, or use the keyboard shortcut to resize07:34
sethkaztek, or the upper left corner icon, right click to get menu07:34
aztekyeah the ATI window won't let me resize it07:34
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brenner Phoenix1701 how are you doing it? my guess is if you use the right repos, you should be right07:34
Overclocked_486sethk: Where exactly should that go? I have the "poll server" line, setting the protocol, giving the username and passwd, a line for decoding MIME, and a line to tell fetchmail where procmail is.07:34
Phoenix1701I haven't even enabled Universe yet.07:34
Phoenix1701This is all straight from Ubuntu.07:35
sethkOverclocked_486, that's all you need, then.  if $MAIL is used, procmail will be using it.07:35
Overclocked_486sethk: But $MAIL is busted.07:35
sethkOverclocked_486, didn't realize you were using procmail.  You do already have an explicit destination, albeit a logical one07:35
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sethkOverclocked_486, then you have to look at its interaction with procmail, not fetchmail07:35
sethkOverclocked_486, assuming that procmail does receive the message.07:35
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Overclocked_486man, mutt is a pain to configure.07:36
intelikeypass ty07:36
Krassythanks07:36
sethkOverclocked_486, might want to set up webadmin07:36
Overclocked_486sethk: webadmin?07:37
dragoonwebmin07:37
brennerPhoenix1701: so main only?  then like i said, you should be fine.  although i don't really see the need to install every package avail. :P07:37
intelikeyaztek i remember finding that little jewl several years ago.    you'll never forget it now :)07:38
aztekindeed i won't07:38
aztekunfortunately i think my ati install has poopedout. or it just takes a long long time07:39
aztekoh07:39
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Overclocked_486sethk: w00t. I just sent an email to myself via webmail, then called fetchmail, and it ended up in the folder I wanted it to.07:40
gnudeanyone here run gentoo linux??07:40
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Overclocked_486sethK: Is it possible to poll more than 1 pop server per .fetchmailrc?07:40
intelikeygnude i've used gentoo on mdk before    :)07:41
DeMoNSeEdhello07:41
royceI have a laptop with a broadcom woreless adapter, I have it setup with ndiswrapper, it works fine, I'm using it now, but the ubuntu always has it listed as disconnected, any ideas?07:41
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DeMoNSeEdanybody know where i could find the bmp-extra-plugins package for breezy07:41
royce*wireless07:41
mitch__#ubuntu-meeting07:41
intelikey!info gentoo07:41
ubotugentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 728 kB, Installed size: 2336 kB07:42
gnudeintelikey,  yo, was that a nice linux , I mean now that you're on ubuntu, like me ... why not keep using gentto??07:42
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intelikeyoh nice small feet, think i'll install it.07:42
Overclocked_486royce: Do you know what the chipset is? I had a helluva time getting my atheros card to work.07:42
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gnudeubotu,  so you're pretty into gentoo?  do you run ubuntu?07:43
ubotugnude: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:43
royceOverclocked_486:  i'm not sure, ndiswrapper seemed to pick it right up, and the connection works, just is reported incorrectly, lemme try and find out07:43
intelikeygnude you missed what i was saying.   not gentoo the distro  but gentoo the file manager.   ^07:43
Overclocked_486royce: That's bizarre.07:44
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techrushleft alt and left mouse button ?07:44
techrushlets you do what exactly ?07:44
aztekdrag the window around07:44
Methynutnuthmm could anyone please point me to any client-side quality-of-service thing so I don't have this 9-second lag in IRC when I'm downloading a file in firefox?07:44
techrushits not doing anything for me07:44
azteklike clicking on the border but you can click on the middle of the window07:44
aztekworks for me07:44
techrushic07:44
techrushok07:44
gnudeyou toughies win.  just asked.07:45
royceOverclocked_486: yeah, it's connected not but it is listed as disconnected, no data in or out, is there a command that will do an ip refresh?07:45
techrushim about to try to install the newest ati driver from the site07:45
techrushsee if this works07:45
brennerDeMoNSeEd: what plugin are you after exactly?07:45
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aztektiz what i'm trying but it seems to hang07:45
aztek:(07:45
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Methynutnuttechrush, let me know how it goes, I'm doing the same in half an hour ;)07:46
techrushyah np07:46
DeMoNSeEdit a plugin package that goes with beep-media-player, it's called bmp-extra-plugins, it includes stuff like a status docklet07:47
intelikeygnude as for the question about switching distros, i haven't.    i added ubuntu to the list of os's on this box for a very specific reason.07:47
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DeMoNSeEdit's the status docklet that i'm really after07:47
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DeMoNSeEdi prefer beep to xmms07:47
brennerlike a panel applet?07:48
DeMoNSeEdyup07:48
intelikey!start a desktop war07:48
ubotue17 is much better than gnome!07:48
brennerDeMoNSeEd: gxmms maybe?07:48
royceOverclocked_486: i just realized that the connection listed as my network connection is eth0, not wlan0, can I change that07:48
ilba7r_i always have firmware error that result in frequent disconnection of my ipw2200 wirless card. is there a solution for that07:48
techrushhere it goes :)07:48
DeMoNSeEdk i'll try...thanks07:48
royceOverclocked_486: nm07:48
Siph0nneone else have a prob with beep media player? where if u open the mp3 file, from the file manager, it says it cant play.... but if u open beep media player first, then choose the mp3 from beep media player it works?07:49
roycen00b07:49
DeMoNSeEdnope07:49
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SyntuxWhy I have to remove ubuntu-desktop if I want to remove gaim ?07:49
DeMoNSeEdalthough, i've must admit, i've never tried that while running beep with ubuntu07:50
ejofee"W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"07:50
ejofeewhy?07:50
ilba7r_syntux ubuntu-desktop is a meta package used for update purpose07:50
DeMoNSeEdbrb07:50
intelikeySyntux cause ubdesktop is a meta pack that requires all the default install files07:50
Syntuxilba7r, so removing it means losing the update?07:50
brennerSiph0n: did you associate bmp with your mp3 files?07:50
Siph0nbrenner, yea pretty sure, i go chk07:51
ilba7r_syntux not basically the updates but most probably the upgrade from one release to the other07:51
fluvvellbrenner: i was wondering if it needed switches set for opening mp3's07:51
techrushthe driver from ati doesnt work here07:51
techrushFYI07:51
Methynutnutejofee, I have no security.ubuntu.com repositories in my sources.list :/07:51
Syntuxilba7r, ah ok thanks07:51
techrusherror generating package it says07:51
ilba7r_ur welcomed syntux07:51
Methynutnuttechrush, really? darn07:51
brennerfluvvell: what would?07:51
ejofeeMethynutnut: and does this mean i shouldn't have them either? (i am a newbye)07:52
Siph0nwhere do i check to see if bmp is associated with mp3 files?07:52
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fluvvellbrenner, bmp-media-player - just a thought07:52
royceI am using ubuntu as a dual boot machine, I would like to mount the other partition of this drive, how would I do that?07:52
brennerSiph0n: right click an mp3 > properties > open with07:52
Methynutnutejofee, well I installed breezy an hour ago, and my file doesn't have that repository. you can probably take it out without hurting anything07:52
Siph0nk yea07:53
intelikeyroyce what are they ?07:53
Methynutnutejofee, as it is, it's a warning, so you can safely ignore it07:53
ejofeeMethynutnut: i took it from the "source-o-matic"07:53
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Methynutnutnever heard of that07:53
techrushMethynutnut: im now trying this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358407:53
royceintelikey: the other partition is ntfs, wixh i understood the ?07:53
Siph0ni open it with beep media player, and it says i dont have the correct plugin07:53
brennerfluvvell: you could be right.  some people have trouble with the default output plugin...07:53
Siph0nor another sound device is already active07:53
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techrushseems to do things a bit differently07:53
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brennerSiph0n: open up bmp07:54
brennerand then go to preferences07:54
brennerctrl+p07:54
fluvvellbrenner, its just that so much of ubuntu sound stuff is linked with the free codecs like ogg and flac and stuff.07:54
Syntuxilba7r, Ok, I removed gaim, and installed gaim 2.0CVS, now when I do apt-get update it request to replace gaim 2.0 with 1.5, how to stop this07:54
fluvvellbrenner, due to the licencing requirements of mp307:54
Siph0nbrenner, k there07:54
brennerfluvvell: ah, now i get what you mean.  no, bmp comes with mp3 support ootb iirc07:55
brennerSiph0n: go to plugins07:55
ilba7r_syntux because the updater will always prefer a regular release over a cvs one07:55
brennerSiph0n: click on the output tab and change it to esound07:55
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ilba7r_syntux you can use synaptic and use force version option07:55
fluvvellbrenner, ah. I should look at it I guess :-)07:55
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Siph0nbrenner, awesome thanx :)07:56
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brennerSiph0n: works now?07:56
Siph0nso what was the prob, why does the07:56
Siph0nOSS not work?07:56
Adrosswhat is the run command for the window list panel of xfce?07:56
Siph0nworks :)07:56
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Syntuxilba7r,  hmm the 2.0CVS isn't listed in synaptic.07:56
brennerSiph0n: *nod* a lot of people seem to have problems with it, me included.07:56
ilba7r_it has to be look under version07:56
arrikanyone know how to get 3d games going?  i got this ouput when i tried to run Enemy territory07:56
arrik You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!07:56
arrik Driver DLL used: libGL.so.107:56
Siph0nbrenner, well thanx :)07:57
KrassyI have first started ubuntu from liveDVD what is root passord i can log as root in terminal window ?07:57
intelikey "window list panel of xfce"   never heard of that.07:57
Adrossintelikey: the top panel07:57
intelikeynever seen one Adross07:57
Adrossthat functions as the windows list applet for the gnome-panel07:58
Adrosshmm, weird, its in the default install07:58
KrassyI have first started ubuntu from liveDVD what is root passord i can`t log as root in terminal window ?07:58
royceintelikey: I tried th method in that wiki, it says No usable windows/mac partitions found, I think the drive is already listed "hda1", but I do not have the permission to access it07:58
intelikeyAdross in xfce ?07:58
brennerarrik: probably need to install your video drivers07:58
Adrossintelikey: yes07:58
Methynutnuttechrush, I had problems with it when I tried to install it in hoary. I basically did the same thing... messily. I jumped into the kernel modules directory and pulled out fglrx.ko ;)07:58
ilba7r_krassy use sudo and type your passwd07:58
arrikbrenner how do i go about doing that without breaking things?07:58
brennerarrik: what card do you have?07:58
intelikeyAdross is there such a thing or are you high ?07:58
arrikati x600 on a laptop07:59
Adrossintelikey: there is07:59
Overclocked_486anybody familiar enough with Mutt to help me figure out why it's saying that ~/Mail isn't a mailbox?07:59
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aztekwell techrush, cross ur fingers. i'm rebooting. everything seemed to install ok. hopefully it works :D07:59
arrikbrenner i downloaded the drivers, but upon installing them it started asked a bunch of questions i wasn't sure about, so i stopped07:59
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kargath64heya07:59
intelikeyroyce i heard you have to remove any mention of them in /etc/fstab first. then run the script07:59
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kargath64i have a question on modems07:59
kargath64and connections etx08:00
kargath64*etc08:00
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ejofee"W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: [etc.] "08:00
brennerarrik: try the driver in the ubuntu repo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:00
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ejofeewhat does this mean? (from apt-get update)08:00
intelikeyAdross that was news to me.... i've used xfce some but never saw a pannel...  learn something every day.08:00
kargath64ubuntu doesn't seem to want to recognise I have a modem installed08:00
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aztekrats08:01
Adrosshttp://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_VI.jpg08:01
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kargath64i mean, it's in the Device Manager list08:01
Adrosssee the panel at the top there?08:01
brennerarrik: if that doesn't work, it may be that your card isn't supported by it (it's too new).  in that case you'd need to use the ati.com driver.  i'm sure someone can help you out08:01
intelikeynope no gui installed yet.08:01
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intelikeythat means no pictures here boss08:01
kargath64it's listed as "Agere Systems AC'97 Modem"08:02
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royceintelikey: I have no /etc/fstab, sorry not too well versed yet08:02
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kargath64can anyone help?08:02
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intelikeyroyce if you are using linux you do08:02
brennerkargath64: is that an internal 56k?08:02
kargath64yah08:03
kargath64i'm on an Acer desknote08:03
M_Cheevyhaving a bit of a problem here... I had to do a debootstrap install (as described in the wiki fakeraid-howto article), I'm up and running in X but when I click on Synaptic to get loading other goodies, I get prompted for my password and then nothing happens.  subsequent clicks does not reprompt for pw..  any ideas?08:03
kargath64when I tried to set up my connection, autodetect the device didn't work08:03
brennerkargath64: ever heard of winmodems?08:03
intelikeykargath64 run wvdialconf modem08:03
kargath64intelikey: what's that?08:04
royceintelikey: i have a /etc, but there is no file or directory by that name, or not that I can find with a ls -la f*08:04
aztekwhat do i have to modify to apt-get update a system that has ubuntu 5.04 on it?08:04
techrushgod this is driving me crazy08:04
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techrushthe tutorial to get my ATI working broke my wireless08:05
aztekme too, tech. mine didn't work on the laptop. "cannot start x"08:05
intelikeyroyce if there is not a /etc/fstab on your linux system  don't reboot................08:05
aztekheh08:05
techrusheven though i did what it said to avoid breaking my wireless08:05
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royceintelikey: i think the drives are mounted in /media/08:06
KrassyI want to setup my own root password to work as root in terminal and save my setting before shutdown computer how i can do this ?08:06
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M_Cheevykrassy:  sudo passwd root08:06
techrushi quit i dont use 3d much anyways08:06
techrushwill stick with the generic ati driver i geuss08:06
ilba7r_ubotu tell krassy about sudo08:06
intelikeyKrassy sudo passwd    and enter your user passwd when asked then set the root password.08:07
techrushit just bugs the hell out of me that something isnt working08:07
azteki know08:07
kargath64/dev/modem doesn't exist on my system08:07
kargath64it's weird08:07
aztekif i could get the ati drivers to work and my Linksys PC card with ndis i'd be square08:07
shad0w1eln -s /dev/input/mice /dev/modem08:07
shad0w1e: )08:07
Squee-D2hoooly crap. So my all day fight with networking has something to do with acpi08:07
intelikeykargath64 it will be /dev/ttyS1  or something like that.08:07
Squee-D2truning it off sorts me out08:08
Squee-D2turning*08:08
kargath64i checked all of those too08:08
ejofeewhat does this mean? (from apt-get update) "W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: [etc.] "08:08
kargath64or at least all the ones in the default config dropdown in the connection setup08:08
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intelikeykargath64 did you run wvdialconf ?08:09
kargath64i'm on windows right now08:09
intelikeyif it's not a winmodem that will find it for you.08:09
kargath64can't do the fixes you suggest without rebooting08:09
Overclocked_486okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?08:09
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brennerubotu: tell ejofee about gpgerr08:10
kargath64also, how do i actually command ubuntu to dial08:10
Overclocked_486okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?08:10
royceintelikey: after I edit te fstab, di I need to restart?08:11
intelikeyno08:11
Squee-D2ethmadwifi08:11
Squee-D2ick08:11
kargath64!modem08:11
ubotuI don't know, kargath6408:11
Squee-D2too many k/bs08:11
Overclocked_486okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?08:11
intelikeyjust run the script again royce08:11
kargath64!connection08:11
ubotukargath64: I don't know, could you explain it?08:11
Adrossintelikey: xftaskbar408:12
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Adrossintelikey: if you're interested08:12
kargath64!winmodem08:12
ubotuI heard winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/08:12
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brennerkargath64: i suggest you reboot and try intelikey's commands.  if that doesn't work.  you probably have a winmodem (which is bad)08:12
intelikeyAdross yes thank you.  and that looks like it is xfce4 specific.08:12
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intelikeyyep08:13
kargath64and if I have a winmodem, is there hope?08:13
kargath64because i REALLY need gcc08:13
brennerkargath64: depends.  iirc, there are some drivers out there08:14
intelikeylook at the link ubotu posted08:14
brennerkargath64: oh.  i think you can install build-essential off the CD08:14
brennerthat includes gcc and whatnot08:14
Krassyhow i can install  rpm package on ubuntu ?\08:14
kargath64oooooooh08:14
Overclocked_486okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?08:14
kargath64!alien08:14
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/08:14
Overclocked_486seriously, please?08:14
ilba7r_i always have firmware error that result in frequent disconnection of my ipw2200 wirless card. is there a solution for that08:15
brennerKrassy: what package?  like ubotu says, you should really stick with ubuntu debs08:16
AMDXPanyone tried running php on breezy08:16
LoppApanAMDXP: yup08:16
intelikeyKrassy with alian  or some such  but dont  enable all the repos and use apt to install what ever it is08:16
AMDXPLoppApan you have any problems?08:16
LoppApanAMDXP: nope08:17
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kargath64so how do I install build-essential?  is it in synaptic?08:17
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AMDXPdo i have to have the php files in the /var/www folder to run?08:17
intelikeyyep kargath6408:17
vr^238kargath64: try sudo apt-get install build-essentials08:17
brennerOverclocked_486: not mutt gurus active atm it seems.  read the doc/man?08:17
brenners/not/no08:17
ilba7r_krassy you will probably find a deb bin for it. if you can not find one better use the source code and compile. Use checkinstall in compilation08:17
LoppApanAMDXP: no, don't remember doing that08:17
Overclocked_486brenner: I have, for the past month. I've torn out most of my hair.08:17
vr^238kargath64: it could be without the "s" at the end, though08:17
LoppApanAMDXP: just install the right packages08:17
Overclocked_486!mutt08:17
ubotuOverclocked_486: Are you smoking crack?08:17
AMDXPLoppApan i installed apache2 and php408:18
intelikeywhy does my apt prefer inet main over cdrom main ????08:18
brennerOverclocked_486: try #linux maybe08:18
Overclocked_486maybe.08:18
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brennerseeing as it's a generic question08:18
AMDXPit keeps trying to open the php page with a text editor in firefox08:18
intelikeyis it order specific in the sources.list ?08:18
kargath64cool08:18
Overclocked_486I tried the mutt chan, and nobody said anything for a full hour.08:18
LoppApanAMDXP: libapache2-mod-php408:18
kargath64wish me luck08:18
brennergood luck08:18
intelikeyOverclocked_486 #linuxhelp is good08:19
AMDXPsudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php408:19
AMDXPis that what i need to do?08:19
LoppApanAMDXP: php is also a scriptlanguage, you installed that. Not the apachemodule08:19
LoppApanAMDXP: exactly08:19
abarbaccia_hey all - is there any command to just bring to the front an instance of a running program08:19
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muaniezhi08:19
muaniezhi08:19
AMDXPthen just restart apache right?08:20
LoppApanAMDXP: yup08:20
intelikeyabarbaccia yes  [alt] +[tab] 08:20
kargath64i'll be back here if something goes horribly wrone08:20
AMDXPLoppApan thanks you are a life saver08:20
kargath64*wrong08:20
LoppApanAMDXP: np08:20
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intelikeythat assumes gui    for console it is  'fg '08:20
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roycewhats the wiki for setting up mp308:21
lordluclessAnyone here use gaim to talk over the ICQ network?08:22
royceplayback08:22
intelikey!mp308:22
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:22
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royceJust want to shout out a big Thank You, learning is much easier with this resource08:24
AMDXPnope its still trying to open it as a text file in firefox08:24
AMDXPLoppApan should i remove and try reinstalling all the packages08:24
ejofeehey, source-o-matic seems to be outdated... how do i find a better (more current) list of sources?08:25
LoppApanAMDXP: I guess that's a quick fix. But strange it is.08:25
Madpilot!repos08:25
uboturepos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:25
AMDXPyes it is because it just wont open the php files08:25
Madpilotejofee: see ubotu.08:25
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LoppApanAMDXP: gonna check a server out with breezy and php. Try removing and reinstall in the meantime08:26
intelikeyAMDXP so let it.  that will put a copy in your home/.moz*  any when it is finished click the file>saveas and put it where ever you want as what ever name you like.08:26
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intelikeyAMDXP ooops thought you were someone else. sorry08:27
AMDXPintelikey: i want to do a mambo install and i need the php to open to a webpage so it can do the install08:27
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AMDXPotherwise i am screwed08:27
LoppApanAMDXP: no worry, this is solutionable :)08:27
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AMDXPLoppApan: i surfed the forums and a lot of people have been having the same issues no one has a real clear cut solution08:28
intelikeyyeah i caught up to that, but my post was on the line of another guy that couldn't dl a file, said ff was opening it rather than dl'ing it.08:28
LoppApanAMDXP: strange, I installed a number of servers, I always find breezy to be the fastest to set apache php mysql up on08:29
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AMDXPthis is my first time trying on ubuntu period i never had a issue with suse boxes i ran08:29
arrikbrenner, ok, followed all that stuff, but the game is still telling me i don't have hardware accel08:30
LoppApanAMDXP: ok, well, it IS going to work :)08:30
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ejofeedon't i lose anything if i erase those files? what are they for, anyway? ("brenner wants you to know: [...]  gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal")08:30
LoppApanAMDXP: you tried removing apache php libapache2-mod-php4? stopped the services, then install it all over again?08:30
windowmakeris anybody here able to tell me a command to change the perms of a folder and all files/folders inside it to 777 with one command?08:31
brennerarrik: glxinfo | grep rendering08:31
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intelikeyevery thing i install ends with "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"08:31
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intelikeywindowmaker why do you want all files world write/executable ?08:32
pixelmonkeyanyone know a good tool for doing video session recording?  Istanbul doesn't work for me, xvidcap works but produces a bunch of frames--I'd like to know how to encode those frames into video file.  So, alternatively, does anyone know how to turn a bunch of pngs/jpgs into an mpeg?08:32
intelikeywindowmaker chmod -R 777 blah08:32
arrikbrenner direct rendering:no08:32
windowmakerintelikey: thankyou! <308:32
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brennerejofee: iirc, it's apt's cache08:32
Squee-Dcan linux-distributed-modules be installed with apt-get?08:32
windowmakerintelikey: that -R was the thing i was looking for ^___________^08:32
intelikeywindowmaker remember the man command ?    man chmod  would have told you.08:33
windowmakerintelikey: oh, sorry =(08:33
brennerarrik: that confirms it...ok, looks like the driver in the repo is too old for your card and you'll need to use the latest ones off ati.com.  search the forum for ati driver topics.  iirc, there's a topic on the latest driver: 8.18.8 or some such.  follow that08:34
AMDXPdoing that now LoppApan08:34
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LoppApanAMDXP: good. I'm looking through some conf-files so we can compare later08:34
arrikok08:35
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intelikeyarrik you did restart it after installing the driver....  of course.08:35
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brennerarrik: the topic title should have HOWTO.  check the ati.com site first to see which version their linux driver is, then use the HOWTO that has that version08:36
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LoppApanAMDXP: I'm off to a meeting, be back in a few hours, hope you solve it. You could pm me about it. Good luck!08:38
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ejofeebrenner: meaning it's not vital?08:39
ejofee!sources08:39
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:39
brennerejofee: *nod* it will probably be regenrated next time you update08:40
ejofee!silc08:40
ubotuNot a clue, ejofee08:40
daakui'm setting up a new system, and i wanna make sure i get right options for ext3 (btree hashes and all) - anyone got any tips?08:40
sioraiBreezy does not come with a firewall preinstalled correct?08:40
intelikeyhmmm ok i have an xserver working now.    what is a good ultra-light de ?08:40
ejofeeubotu: tell ejofee about silc08:40
ejofeeubotu: tell ejofee about gaim-silc08:41
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AMDXPok LoppApan08:41
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arrikbrenner what was the site you sent me before?08:41
intelikeysiorai hmm preinstalled but not active might be more like it.  iptables is the firewall08:41
sioraihm08:42
brennerubotu: tell siorai about firewall08:42
intelikeysiorai firestarter is the config app for iptables methinks08:42
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Squee-Dhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 can i use apt-get to get this package somehow?08:43
Squee-Dbetter yet. wheres a good intro to apt-get08:43
brennerintelikey: xfce is popular08:43
intelikeyit's not very light anymore though.08:43
Hobbsee!apt-get08:43
ubotufrom memory, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/08:43
sioraihmm08:44
polpakSquee-D, you can just type sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules08:44
Squee-Dpolpak yeah it wasnt finding it08:44
Squee-Dsoe i was confused08:44
polpakSquee-D, or you can just use synaptic08:44
intelikeyi might as well use kde if i go that heavy brenner08:44
brennerintelikey: what about blackbox/fluxbox, icewm08:44
Squee-Dis synaptic a gui?08:44
siorai!firestarter08:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic08:44
polpakSquee-D, you may need to configure your repositories to include universe and multiverse08:44
polpakSquee-D, yes08:44
polpakSquee-D, synaptic is a gui for apt-get08:44
Squee-Dahhh i see08:44
fredforfaenbrenner try openbox with pypanel or fbpanel...works for me...very low ram usage08:45
Squee-Dwell i dont but i assume they are outside of 'breezy'08:45
intelikeyyeah flux is good.   icewm might be ok.......     ah twm may be what i'm looking for.08:45
polpakSquee-D, linux-restricted-modules are in breezy. just not that version probably08:45
polpakSquee-D, did you put a version number when you used apt-get?08:45
firebird619Could someone please tell me what repositories I should have on Ubuntu 5.10 or where on the Internet I can find a list of which ones I should have. Ever since I installed 5.10 I get a warning message that says The following problems were found on your system and then it lists almost all of the repositories I do have. When I first installed 5.10 I changed everything that said hoary to say breezy, but that didn't help at all.08:46
polpak!linux-restricted-modules08:46
ubotupolpak: What?08:46
Squee-Di may have retrying now08:46
Madpilot!tell firebird619 about repos08:46
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intelikeyhehhe installing twm requires 625k dl   that i can handle08:46
Squee-Dstill cant find it without the version08:46
polpakSquee-D, one sec08:46
intelikeysorry 652k08:47
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sioraiSee, the problem fellas is, no ports are open, period, I've forwarded them in my router, but still, nothing, and it's getting very frustrating08:48
polpakSquee-D, well I have them in my apt list. Are you sure you have the universe & multiverse repos on?08:48
sioraisome guys on the forums have been having similiar problems, with no workign solution08:48
tonyyarussofirebird619: Did you do a dist-upgrade with apt, or install from something separate?08:49
Squee-Dpolpak not at all sure, i have breezy at the top of sources.list and it shows 'restricted' at the end08:49
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polpaksiorai, what's the issue?08:49
tonyyarussofirebird619: I have main, universe, multiverse, restricted.08:49
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sioraiaMule polpak, I can't get it off lowID, I've ran port scanning stuff, and nothing gets through08:49
firebird619I installed from the Ubuntu 5.10 CD08:49
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TikakanMorning people08:50
Squee-Dits called linux-restricted-modules in synaptic08:50
Madpilotsiorai: have you used Firestarter to explictly open whatever ports aMule uses? I had to do that with BitTorrent08:50
polpakSquee-D, yep. linux-restriced-modules-2.6.12-1008:50
sioraiNo, I didn't, and I have no idea how to do that either08:50
polpaksiorai, is aMule a server?08:51
Squee-Ddunno why apt-get did not see it08:51
Squee-Dalready installed it seems08:51
sioraiNo polpak, it's a client08:51
intelikeysiorai if iptables is the reason    'iptables -L '  should show it methinks08:51
polpakintelikey, yeah, but Breezy doesn't have a firewall by default08:51
tonyyarussoIs mencoder cross-platform?08:51
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siorai!pastebin08:52
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:52
polpaksiorai,  when the client is running can you do netstat -an | grep LISTEN and see the port that it uses LISTENING?08:52
Madpilotsiorai: you'll need to check Google or somewhere to find out which ports aMule uses, then install Firestarter - it's got a lot of pre-defined stuff, so aMule settings might already be in there (BitTorrent settings were)08:52
sioraiWell, I just installed it...08:53
polpakMadpilot, it's not needed to install a firewall to ALLOW access. Only to block it. Since no firewall rules are on by default in Ubuntu08:53
sioraiapperently the default port for ED2K is 4662...08:53
Madpilotpolpak: I thought so too, but the fact remains that I had to open BitTorrent's ports to get it to work here...08:53
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sioraiBuuut.... I can't access ANY ports, after I ran scans for the first 30,000 I stopped and gave up : /08:53
ofirhello all - good morning :)08:54
polpakMadpilot, I don't have firestarter installed, and use Bittorrent just fine08:54
ofircant install skype , can someone help me ?08:54
polpaksiorai, the reason ubuntu doesn't have a firewall by default is because all the listening processes are configured to not listen on external interfaces08:54
Madpilotpolpak: I did have - I have Apache installed too - and it blocks BT by default08:55
polpaksiorai, do a netstat -an | grep LISTEN and post the contents to pastebin08:55
brennerubotu: tell ofir about skype08:55
polpaksiorai, when you have the client running08:55
Squee-DHow does a network interface know which module to use?08:56
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sioraihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/577608:56
Syntuxwhich is better SDram or DD ?08:57
sioraiDDR?08:57
polpaksiorai, do you know what port it is supposed to use?08:57
siorai2560008:57
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sioraiwell, supposed to use 466208:57
sioraiBut a lot of ISP's have it banned, heh08:57
polpakyou sure it's not supposed to use 4660 ?08:57
sioraiSo I made the switch to 25600...08:57
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SyntuxSionide,  yes DDR or SD ram ?08:58
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polpakcause it looks like that's the only thing listening to the outside world08:58
sioraiDDR ram of cuorse Syntux08:58
intelikeyoh my this is really messed up.  cant reach a console from X    eeek !08:58
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sioraiUgh...08:58
polpaksiorai, are you on DSL or cable modem?08:59
sioraiDSL modem, BEFW11S408:59
sioraiWell, wireless router to be specific08:59
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polpaksiorai, did you set your computer to be DMZ host, or forward the port?08:59
sioraiMy router is set to forward the port to my ip...09:00
polpaksiorai, which port?09:00
polpaksiorai, or ports09:00
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Hobbsee!wireless09:00
sioraianything from 4000-5000 and 20000 to 30000 just to be on the sure side (not exactly safe I know)09:00
polpaksiorai, it's fine so long as you aren't running any servers listening to the outside09:01
polpaksiorai, so here's my assessment09:01
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polpaksiorai, oh, is firestarter still installed?09:01
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sioraiYeah09:02
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polpaksiorai, either remove it or set it to open for now09:02
roycehow do you make a program start with x?09:02
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sioraiHow do I set it to open?09:02
polpakroyce, system->preferences->session09:02
polpaksiorai, launch the firestarter program and you should have an option for 'off' or open09:03
intelikeyroyce alt+f209:03
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intelikeydepends on what you are asking09:03
inxcan somebody give me the sorces.list for da Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)?09:04
sioraiit's 'off'09:04
intelikey!repos09:04
polpaksiorai, ok, now with firestarter off you still are unable to get the connection working?09:04
siorai*nods*09:04
Squee-Dhallelujah! I got my wireless card working09:05
ofirhow to install deb files ? in kubuntu i right cliked the deb and pushed intall in ubuntu it dosent work09:05
polpaksiorai, ok, well the client is clearly listening to port 466009:05
inxIs here somebody RUSSIAN?09:05
intelikey<ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at09:05
intelikey          http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or09:05
intelikey          http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own09:05
kurrosofir: i'm not sure on a GUI, i have always done dpkg --install .deb from gnome-terminal09:05
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polpaksiorai, the only reason I can come up with for connectivity problems is a) your router isn't correctly forwarding the port or b) your ISP is blocking traffic on that port09:06
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polpaksiorai, because as far as your system is concerned port 4660 is open for business09:06
sioraithis crap is starting to get to me : /09:06
inxCAN SOMEBODY give me the sorces.list for da Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary)09:06
sioraiThank ou very much for everything thuogh polpak09:07
Nameeater!apt09:07
polpaksiorai, if you suspect it's your ISP you can try changing the port number09:07
sioraiI have ; /09:07
sioraiseveral times09:07
polpaksiorai, and confirm that the client is listening on the new port you specified with netstat -an09:07
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Madpilot!tell inx about repos09:07
polpaksiorai, does your router have an option for DMZ host?09:08
inxok..09:08
inxthats da support chanel..09:08
Madpilotinx: if ubotu didn't reach you, here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary)09:08
sioraipolpak yes, what exactly IS DMZ host?09:08
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polpaksiorai, it basically means the router will forward all inbound connection attempts to your computer09:08
polpaksiorai, as if you said to forward all ports09:09
polpaksiorai, you can remove the port forwarding you set up before and just set yourself as the DMZ host09:09
sioraiGot it!09:09
kurrosunless your roommate makes a UPnP request, grrr.09:09
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sioraiOkay, but I'm not the only one on this network09:10
polpaksiorai, that's ok09:10
inxMadpilot, thank you...09:10
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polpaksiorai, is anyone else needing to accept incomming connections?09:10
sioraiI have no idea09:10
sioraiMy buddy plays Diablo 2, and surfs, that's about it, heh09:11
polpaksiorai, are you currently forwarding any ports to any other computers?09:11
sioraiNope09:11
sioraiI'll keep it up like this for a while09:11
sioraithank you thank you thank yuo!09:11
polpaksiorai, then you're ok to set yourself as DMZ09:11
sioraiI've already told several dozen people about Ubuntu, hehe09:12
polpaksiorai, cause all it means is "forward all ports to this ip"09:12
sioraiI _adore_ this community that I'm now a part of :)09:12
siorai*nods* that's what i gathered when I read the site09:12
polpaksiorai, and if nobody else needed ports forwarded to them before then they won't need them now either09:12
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sioraiGood point09:12
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gvoltioshi09:12
gvoltioshelp09:12
sioraiMy torrent shuold probably run more smoothly now huh?09:12
polpaksiorai, yep09:12
gvoltiostengo un error en ubuntu09:12
gvoltiosme sale el siguiente mensaje09:13
gvoltiosthe application cannot be started an internal error occurred09:13
polpaksiorai, you can uninstall firestarter now if you want09:13
polpaksiorai, it's not really nessicary09:13
gvoltiosal ejecutar openoffice09:13
sioraiAh09:13
sioraiWell, thank yuo very much09:13
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polpaksiorai, no problem09:13
sioraiI'm most definately pleased09:13
roycewhat's an easy way to find where a program is installed to, in order to reference it later?09:13
polpaksiorai, glad I could help09:13
polpakroyce, a program, or just any file?09:13
ofir kurros - ubuntu suppose to be easy there is no gui installer for deb files (kubuntu and suse has)09:13
roycepolpak: a program, i'm trying to make gaim start w/ x09:14
polpakin a console type 'which gaim'09:14
polpakroyce, it will tell you where it is09:14
roycethanx09:15
awb4422i'm trying to mount an ext3 partition so all users can write to it.. in /etc/fstab the only options i have listed is 'defaults' .... I've tried explicitly setting rw as an option, but I still cant write to the drive.. anything i'm missing?09:15
polpakroyce, are you using 'system->preferences->sessions' ?09:15
roycepolpak: yes09:15
polpakroyce, ah, ok09:16
roycepolpak: what does the which command do?09:16
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polpakawb4422, if you want all users to write to it, you need to set the permissions on it properly09:16
royceit worked great09:16
brennerman which09:16
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polpakroyce, tells you what program will be run if you type a command09:16
awb4422polpak: i thought w/ ext3 you could do that with fstab... and that only xfs you had to do that..guess not09:17
intelikeyroyce any command you want to know what does before you run it, try  'man <command> '09:17
polpakawb4422, take a look at the permissions for /tmp09:17
Milenko_The_Snowi hate man pages09:17
Milenko_The_Snowgimme a classic README and im fine09:17
Milenko_The_Snow:P09:17
intelikeyroyce example 'man man '09:17
polpakawb4422, it's a directory that anyone can write to09:17
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awb4422yeah no i know how to change them.. i didnt know you had to do it that way09:17
awb4422thx tho09:17
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polpaknoooo09:18
polpaknot ubotu09:18
melalcooliquehi !09:18
polpak=(09:18
DanielHolthAnyone having trouble with ntpd and ubuntu 5.10?09:18
intelikeyMilenko_The_Snow you probably hate the less filter also.....09:18
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intelikeyDanielHolth you setting up a time server ?09:19
Mabus06someone have a simple gif making program to reccomend?09:19
Mabus06animated I should specify09:19
DanielHolthI have wacky ntp sych problems09:19
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MadpilotMabus06: I think there's an amination plugin for the GIMP09:19
ofirbuntu suppose to be easy there is no gui installer for deb files (kubuntu and suse has)  ???09:20
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polpakofir, yes there is09:20
polpakofir, synaptic09:20
brennerhehe09:21
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Mabus06Madpilot, GIMP confuses me, I'd rather something closer to MS paint in terms of drawing.09:21
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polpakMabus06, there's OpenOffice Draw09:21
Mabus06I'll check it out, polpak09:21
Mabus06thanks09:21
polpakMabus06, I don't know if it does animation though09:22
leevihas someone installed cedega CVS?09:22
intelikeyMabus06 kpaint09:22
polpakleevi, nah,  I use wine09:22
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Mabus06intelikey, that sounds simpler. :)09:23
dcjhi... can someone point me to the wiki site that tells how to install multimedia codecs and java?09:23
intelikeyi have me doubts that it does animi tho09:23
Mabus06oh..09:23
dcji cannot seem to find it... i'm running ubuntu  5.0409:23
ofirthe synaptic doesnt have opera and skype in it kynaptic has but is not working in ubunto09:24
leeviI'm just asking 'cos I installed it with a script and I don't know where it put some of the files09:24
intelikeyMabus06 you can try it.....  cause idk09:24
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Methynutnutpolpak, is wine actually available using synaptic? Or hidden as part of some other package?09:24
UbuntuRobdcj, do a search in the ubuntu forums for "win32 codecs" and Java you can install with the ADD APPLICATION feature under the APPLICATIONS menu. make sure to add all repositories!!09:25
tonyyarussodcj: You can get Java with apt.09:25
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Mabus06ubotu, tell Methynutnut about wine09:25
Mabus06I had to use CVS, Methynutnut09:25
polpakMethynutnut, it's available in universe or multiverse09:25
Mabus06as per ubotu's instructions09:25
Methynutnutow ok09:25
Methynutnutpolpak, I have both those repos, but there's no wine package. just xwine, and a "dummy" libwine09:26
polpakMethynutnut, or you can use the latest release from winehq by adding their ubuntu repo09:26
Methynutnutah ok09:26
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intelikeyMabus06 is the bot working for you ?09:26
Mabus06intelikey, bot?09:26
dcjin 5.04? i do not see the ADD APPLICATION?09:26
intelikeyyes bot.09:26
Mabus06intelikey, you mean you remember when I was trying to get the blootbots to work? nope. didn't work09:26
polpakintelikey, the bot got disconnected09:26
polpakMethynutnut, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb09:27
intelikeyas in u-bot-u09:27
UbuntuRobok, i haven't used 5.04, i'm using Breezy09:27
polpakintelikey, it got disconnected09:27
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Mabus06Oh, you mean ubotu.09:27
Mabus06Yeah he's not there, didn't notice.09:27
dcjhmm.. ya i have an hp laptop....09:28
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intelikeypolpak yea and i was trying to point that out in a nice way......09:28
polpakintelikey, oh lol09:28
polpakintelikey, too subtle for me09:28
UbuntuRobdcj, search in synaptic for "Blackdown Java" (add all repositories!)09:28
Methynutnutpolpak, found it, thanks09:28
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Methynutnutaargh apt-get update keeps ignoring the wine repos for some reason09:31
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polpakMethynutnut, really?09:32
polpakMethynutnut, works fine for me09:32
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MethynutnutIgn http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Release.gpg09:33
roycemay not be the place to ask, is there a recognized best ftp client?09:33
intelikeynot really royce09:33
Madpilotroyce: gFTP seems to be the only GUI FTP client going - too bad it's awful :(09:33
inxIs here somebody who speak russian?09:34
polpakroyce, FTP is a terrible protocol anyway ;p09:34
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Jowigoodmorning all09:34
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MadpilotNautilus does some basic FTP stuff quite well, actually09:34
polpakMadpilot, agreed. If you must use FTP you may as well just set it up in the file manager09:35
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muepisn't ftp quite useful for some simple, lightweight tasks?09:35
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rambo3it s just a protocol09:35
polpakmuep, no more so than SFTP, and SFTP is secure and doesn't require the stupid passive/nonpassive option09:35
MadpilotFilezilla is finally working on a Linux port, that'll be nice - funny, that's one of the few Windows apps I actually miss!09:36
polpakMethynutnut, any luck?09:36
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roycepolpak: is there a quality sftp client?09:37
rambo3gftp09:37
aztekis there a reason why my res is stuck @ 640x480 even after i edited the xorg.conf?? heh09:37
polpakroyce, what are you trying to do?09:37
Jowihow can i make ytalk accept connections in an xterm? example: user1 logged in via ssh, user2 logged in in X with an xterm open. user1 request talk with user2 but get "user1 refusing..." even when "mesg y" is set in the xterm.09:37
rambo3that is ssh2 on port 2209:37
polpakroyce, most stuff can just be done with nautilus if you need a gui09:37
intelikeyhmmm there seem to be a lot of ftp clients   'apt-cache search ftp | less'09:37
roycepolpak: i have an ftp server on my home machine, i'm remote, I do regular tasks like updating my website, and general file movement09:38
polpakroyce, click places->connect to server09:38
Jowiaztek: might be driver or the monitor/resolution setup. post your xorg.conf in the pastebin. also LCD or CRT?09:38
aztekCRT09:38
polpakroyce, select SSH or FTP as the protocol and put in the info09:38
muepaztek: are your refresh rate settings correct?09:38
intelikeykbear any good ?09:39
polpakroyce, it will make a directory on the virtual FS you can use like it was part of your filesystem09:39
roycepolpak: sweet, thanx09:39
Jowiaztek: also, have you checked the resolution wiki?09:39
Jowi!resolution09:39
polpakubotu is MIA09:40
Jowiah09:40
royceany word on how to install firefox 1.5 while avoiding serious hassle?09:40
Jowihmmm09:40
Madpilotwe're botless! :(09:40
polpakroyce, wait for dapper =p09:40
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Jowihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:41
mikey_drat09:41
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tonyyarussoroyce: !firefox1509:41
Jowiaztek: check that link ^^^09:41
polpaklol09:41
polpaktonyyarusso, he's gone man. just gone.09:41
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Jowianyone got a solution for my ytalk prob? btw, ytalking between consoles work fine.09:42
tonyyarussoOh, right.09:43
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rambo3random unknown app to me09:44
Methynutnutnote to self, just get i386 because no one writes software for amd64 yet >.<09:44
teroedniMethynunut?09:45
teroedniwhats wrong09:45
teroednii find 64 bit to be nice:D09:45
theCoreMethynutnut, ubuntu x86-64 ?09:45
Methynutnutyeah09:45
polpakMethynutnut, you working with the wine repo still?09:46
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MethynutnutI'm just whining because I'm notoriously bad at getting wine to install from source09:46
polpakMethynutnut, you can use the source repo09:46
Methynutnutpolpak, well it wouldn't, so I went in and downloaded the .deb manually, which won't install because it's the wrong arch lol09:46
Methynutnutoh, so I do that weird build-dep & build from source thing?09:46
polpakMethynutnut, which is probably why the binary repo didn't work either =o09:46
Jowiit's hard even to get wine working even after installing it with binaries ;)09:46
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polpakJowi, the latest version have been fairly straightforward09:47
Methynutnutyeah probably lol09:47
Methynutnutah well, I'll look at it later. can't be bothered downloading 77MB of build tools right now09:47
Jowipolpak: yeah, fairly. i had it working great. then one day it just refuses to run any .exe files and without any errors. just let it go from there since i don't really need it anyway :)09:48
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leevihow can I create a virtual dvd drive?09:48
ofirthe synaptic doesnt have opera and skype in it kynaptic has but is not working in ubunto09:48
Jowileevi: what do you mean?09:48
ofiri was able to intsll the skype  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SkypeHowto/09:49
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Madpilotofir: Opera is easy to install - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser09:49
ofir:)09:49
rambo3non-free09:49
leevijowi, I need to instal a game from .bin file...09:49
ofiropera in non free ?09:49
Madpilotofir: it's "free as in beer", but not open-source...09:50
theCorerambo3, opera is open source09:50
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MadpilottheCore: no it's not, actually... but it's still better than that well-known open-source browser ;)09:50
rambo3where do i download opera source09:51
intelikeyany one know a way to kill an app from twm when it doesn't have a kill option in the menu ?    is there a hot key ?09:51
theCore!opera09:51
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MadpilottheCore: we're botless again....09:51
leeviJowi: I need to install a game from .bin file...09:51
theCoregosh ...09:51
xirtushey first time using linux, first time using ubuntu, how do i get wine or free crossover, because niether of which are working for me/09:52
intelikeycafuego where's the bot ?09:52
rambo3!opera wont give me opera source anyway09:52
polpakxirtus, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb09:52
xirtusyeah i bin there09:52
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xirtusdidnt work09:52
polpakxirtus, are you using 32 bit arch?09:52
xirtus64bit amd09:52
theCoreintelikey, he is dead again ..09:52
polpakxirtus, ah.. then you have to get source apparently. I don't see any binaries for 64bit yet09:53
Chousukehoh09:53
xirtusah09:53
polpakxirtus, so install the source repo09:53
xirtusi am fortunes fool09:53
polpakxirtus, and build from there09:53
Jowileevi: sorry, got a call. no idea about .bin files but it is possible to mount an .iso with the loopback interface09:53
xirtusi'll do my best, thanks polpak09:53
polpakxirtus, but you'll need build-essential09:53
theCoreJowi, yes09:53
polpakxirtus, don't give up on ubuntu though. It's great09:54
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xirtus-ignorance) whats build essential09:54
polpakxirtus, sudo apt-get install build-essential09:54
ChousukeSomeone here in this lecture hall just booted Breezy live CD on his laptop.09:54
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intelikeyJowi .bin is usually exec *.bin09:54
ChousukeI must encourage him to install it too09:54
polpakxirtus, it's a package that allows you to build packages from source09:54
xirtusdo i get it somewhere?''09:54
polpakxirtus, yes, either use synaptic or apt-get09:55
theCorexirtus, type 'sudo aptitude install build-essential' into the terminal09:55
ofirwhat is the cd of the desktop ?09:55
leeviJowi: ok. maybe i just need to burn the game on cd...09:55
intelikeyxirtus same place you should get most if not all software you install on ub  for the repos.09:55
ggohello! i'm looking for something like isobuster, in order to acces to multicession cd roms any id? please.09:55
Jowiintelikey: okay. never created a virtual dvd from a bin so i have noidea :)09:56
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intelikeyJowi ah dvd, i have the same lack of experance then....09:56
intelikeyggo xcdroast ?09:58
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theCoreggo, or gnome baker ?09:58
Jowileevi, i think it goes something like this: losetup /dev/loop quake3.iso (new line) mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop /quakecd (new line) cd /quakecd09:58
intelikeyggo k3b ?09:58
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ggointelikey: doest it allow reading multicessions ?09:58
intelikeyyes09:59
ggook, il'l try thanks09:59
intelikeyggo allows read or write multi-session10:00
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leeviJowi: just started to burn the .bin isos to a proper cd. taugth that it's the easy way10:00
intelikeyif read it all you want maybe just mount it.10:00
ggointelikey: is that xcdroast?10:00
intelikeyboth10:00
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intelikeyk3b is probably more what you are after ggo10:01
Jowileevi: yeah, it is the easiest way. but in case you need it in the future at least you know it is possible :)10:01
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leevijowi: thanks :)10:01
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ggointelikey : ,ok, what about the way gnome- unbuntu are mounting cdroms?10:02
intelikeywhat about ?10:02
Jowileevi: it is very useful for when you have an .iso but want to add a few files to it before burning it.10:02
Jowileevi: np10:02
xirtushey if i build from the source a 64bit wine will it only be able to run 64 bit programs?10:03
leevijowi: huh?10:03
ggointelikey: got some music cd's that nautilus found full of win-exe and sound juicer sometime found music10:03
rodentfiftysixhey, does anyone know a way to play dvds on ubuntu? i just installed it today and i am trying to get it configured10:03
theCoreggo, under /media/cdrom10:03
Jowileevi: np = no problem10:03
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rodentfiftysixtotem can't play the dvd for some reason10:03
Jowirodentfiftysix: you need libdvdcss210:04
theCorerodentfiftysix, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:04
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rodentfiftysixok, i'll try that10:04
intelikeyggo ah you don't mount cda  try something like bmp or totem and access cda that way.10:04
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feugan3333Hi all. Does anyone know how to check the link speed of an ethernet network interface?10:05
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theCorefeugan3333, run 'ifconfig'10:05
intelikeyfeugan3333 or test with ping.10:06
ggointelikey: the core : thanks got things to try now ...!10:06
joedjwhat do y'all recommend for watching TV? i've been using xawtv for ages, but would like something nicer10:06
theCoreggo, np10:06
feugan3333theCore: It's not under ifconfig, at least on my system.10:06
joedji haven't been able to figure out how to make xine do it, though it has some configuration dialogs etc that suggest it's possible10:06
Jowijoedj: Sony 32" widescreens are nice ;)10:07
Squee-Dfeugan3333 ethtool10:07
xirtushey i'm switching over from apple, is there anything quite like dashboard, itunes, or any of it?10:07
Squee-D'ethtool eth0' for example10:07
intelikeyjoedj i recomend not watching tv.10:07
Jowijoedj: maybe you should try freevo10:07
Jowior mythtv10:07
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Jowijoedj: that will add some nice recording capabilities and scheduling10:08
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ofircant write to sources.list10:08
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theCoreofir, sudo10:08
Jowiofir: "sudo gedit sources.list"10:09
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ofirthanks10:09
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Jowineed to restart x. brb10:10
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Jowiwierd. ytalk accepts connections from xterm -> console, but not console -> xterm10:11
ofirhow do i get to directory ect/apt ?10:11
Jowiofir: cd /etc/apt10:12
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ofirthanks10:13
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Jowiofir: you should have a look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandlineHowto10:14
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Jowiofir: you need the info in those pages10:14
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ejofeeis there any way to display images in a non-x11 terminal?10:15
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rambo3ascii images10:16
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Jowiejofee: yes. but i haven't done that in a few years so i forgot which app. you also need a graphic card that support natively wierd resolutions probably.10:17
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intelikey10:17
burepe1i have the repositories set up but what are the packages i need to view windows video and audio?10:17
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windowmakeroh gosh10:18
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M_Cheevyburepe1: are you in Synaptic?  you might want to try the search utility.. change it to search descriptions too10:18
ofirthanks10:18
Jowiburepe1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:18
burepe1adept10:18
burepe1there are a lot of codecs10:19
windowmakeroh gosh, i tried to install "LILO" and then it asked if i wanted to write over my old bootloader (i used grub) and then when i finished it said that it failed and i may not be able to boot up linux, whole output is here www.pastebin.com/46497410:19
burepe1aren't there10:19
burepe1thanks jowi10:19
M_Cheevywindowmaker: have you tried 'dpkg-reconfigure grub'?10:19
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ejofeeJowi: would nvidia typically be ok?10:19
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windowmakerM_Cheevy: nope, thanks, i'll try that, and tell you what happens10:19
windowmakerM_Cheevy: no output, is that supposed to happen?10:20
Jowiejofee: no idea. back in the days i had a Cirrus Logic card.10:20
M_CheevyI'll be here, the ubuntu is downloading the kde stuff (kubuntu?)10:20
ejofeeJowi: i see10:20
ejofeeJowi: thank you10:20
M_Cheevywindowmaker: it doesn't have to be too interactive... now I think the command is 'grub-install'?10:20
windowmakerM_Cheevy: okay10:21
sethkM_Cheevy, you can use grub-install, or you can run the grub shell and enter commands10:21
M_Cheevysorry, I'm on sata raid so i have to use the shell10:21
Jowiejofee: i might have found something10:21
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windowmakerM_Cheevy: i don't understand grub-install, are there any parameters to be used?10:21
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rambo3hda or hd010:21
rambo3grub-install (where)10:22
M_Cheevywindowmaker: I use the shell, sethk might be able to tell you about the grub-install10:22
ejofeeJowi: where / what?10:22
Jowihttp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/svga/10:22
M_Cheevyrambo: wouldn't that be /dev/hd0 or /dev/hda3 or where-ever10:22
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rambo3yeah probobly ,10:23
M_Cheevyrambo3: just asking so I know for future advice10:23
Jowiejofee: sorry, should be here (look for grav) http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/Viewers/index.shtml10:23
Jaymacbah...10:23
Jaymacit's 9.23..  I have a lecture in half an hour, and I'm still absolutely wasted10:24
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Jowiejofee: zgv should also do it10:24
theCoreM_Cheevy, no grub doesn't use the /dev/ notation10:24
Jowiejofee: http://www.svgalib.org/rus/zgv/10:24
M_CheevytheCore: wasn't sure, I know the shell uses the (hd0,3) thang10:24
intelikeyha mkfs.vfat  E; command not found.   bah10:25
xirtushey did you guys know they have xdvdshrink for linux at sourceforge? (thats fucking awesome)10:25
ejofeeJowi: thank you. (i am trying to get images viewable in w3m-img...)10:25
ejofeeJowi: btw, are you familiar with w3m-img?10:25
rambo3m_Cheevy http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub-install.html10:25
Jowiejofee: nope10:25
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M_Cheevyxirtus: is there a dvdDecrypter clone as well?10:25
rambo3it does use /dev/hda10:25
theCorerambo3, really ?10:26
Frostywussup all10:26
ejofeeJowi: it's a console browser. i've just discovered it and is much better than either lynx or links (imo)10:26
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Squee-Dis there a way fo finding out what parms were passed to the kernel?10:26
Jowiejofee: cool. will check it out right now i think :)10:26
ejofeeJowi: in fact, the browser is w3m10:26
ejofeeJowi: w3m-img is the plugin for showing images in the console (!)10:27
FrostyI'm a linux newbie10:27
M_CheevySquee-D: you mean what options where used to make the kernel?10:27
M_Cheevywelcome frosty10:27
ejofeeJowi: it seems to work in xterm, but not in a non-x11, non-virtual terminal10:27
ejofeeFrosty: do you need help?10:27
FrostyTonight, me take wood and make FIRE!! (got limewire working and upgraded java)10:27
Jowiejofee: did you install the w3mmee-img package?10:28
M_CheevyFrosty: congrats!   the feelings of accomplishment! welcome to linux!10:28
FrostyNo, just checking stuff out, I like this X-chat ... it looks better hten Mirc10:28
Squee-DM_Cheevy nah the ones used in the boot loader10:28
M_CheevySquee-D: using grub?10:28
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FrostyI did have problems during install if anything would like to hear about it10:29
Squee-DM_Cheevy yeah i am.. but i wanna be sure the default menu item i set is the one that got called10:29
Frostyprobably a known issue10:29
theCoreejofee, it's work, lol now, i see images in my term10:29
ejofeeJowi: no! i thought w3m-img was the only one needed!10:29
Squee-Dim having a nightmare with apm and acpi10:29
M_CheevySquee-D: /boot/grub/menu.lst10:29
ejofeetheCore: what do you think about w3m? ain't it just COOL?10:29
Squee-Domg10:30
M_CheevyFrosty: I just finished a software sata raid 0 install, don't tell me about install issues ;)10:30
Squee-Dyou didnt read what i said10:30
Squee-Di tried to beat you to actually suggesting i looked there :P10:30
theCoreejofee, i'm a w3m user10:30
FrostyIt actualy wasn't anyhting major10:30
Jowiejofee: actually, i think you're right10:30
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FrostyI am having issues with DVD codecs and Windows media player codecs for totem10:31
theCoreejofee, so w3m having image in my term is kinda cool but wierd10:31
Frostybut I have pretty much given up10:31
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M_CheevySquee-D: ah... I think I see what you mean... let me think on this..if you were using a different kernel version it would be one thing....10:31
JowiFrosty: all is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:31
Squee-DM_Cheevy yah i just thought maybe it showed up in /proc somewhere?10:31
windowmakerM_Cheevy: i rebooted, grub worked okay, and then when X started i went to do liloconfig again, bceause i knwe if anything stuffed up i could use a livecd to fix it.... but when i rebooted again grub was still active, it didn't have lilo!10:32
M_CheevySquee-D: you could see if certain modules were loaded, but not sure about those params...10:32
Frostythankyou very much Frosty, I will go through that tomorrow10:32
Squee-Dim trying to disable acpi and apm10:32
M_CheevySquee-D: have you googled on '<parameter> +verifying +kernel'?10:33
FrostyI downloaded codecs and put them where they were suppose to be, Mplayer even found them, but still would not get me do it10:33
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Squee-Dthey cause all manner of strife in the latest kernels with my mobo10:33
ejofeeJowi: and does it work?10:33
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ejofeetheCore: ohh, i thought you were a newbye to it (then how come you didn't know it supported images?!) :)10:33
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FrostyI find now the only thing that keeps me keeping microsoft is World of Warcraft10:34
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Squee-DNo.. but now i have, not helping me :)10:34
inakihello10:34
inakiaborts10:34
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ejofeeinaki: hello10:34
FrostyHi Amaki10:34
Jowiejofee: got the same prob as you. images in xterm but not in console. think it must be because the console is not in svga. got a built in video chip so i doubt i can set a good videomode for the console.10:34
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FrostyHi inaki I mean lol10:34
theCoreFrosty, cedega it's a game emulator for linux and you will be able to play w3 in linux10:34
CaptainMorganstupid question, but does IE run in ubuntu? I want to test a site under development... but not in only one browser...10:35
FrostyI hate the idea of paying 5 dollars a month on top of the game subscription10:35
sethkCaptainMorgan, only with an emulator10:35
inxHi guys..do somebody know where i can get good mpeg (*.mpeg, *.mpg) player for Hungehog?10:35
CaptainMorgansethk , wine?10:35
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FrostyI have looked at Cedega10:36
ejofeeJowi: would you please let me know when/if it works?10:36
Jowiejofee: think that you must specify a display mode in grub for the consoles10:36
Jowiejofee: sure10:36
M_CheevyFrosty: sorry, dude, coming up empty10:36
ejofeeJowi: i use lilo :(10:36
Frostylol10:36
sethkCaptainMorgan, I haven't tested it myself.  some people say wine manages with it, others say it's too unstable.  I haven't tested cedega10:36
Jowiejofee: lilo should be able as well10:36
ofirthanks the opera beavies like a fire fox , i need somethink which will behave as ie what to do10:36
inxHi guys..do somebody know where i can get good mpeg (*.mpeg, *.mpg) player for Hungehog?10:36
Frostythere is another piece of software, it is still in development though10:36
ofirmy mother want her bank acount to work10:37
M_Cheevybbl10:37
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ejofeeJowi: however, which one is responsible for showing pictures, w3m-img, or w3mmee-img?10:37
FrostyWell, I promised the wife I would be in bed by 3, it's 4 now, so I gotta go lol10:37
Frostythanks for the quick chat and help guys10:37
theCoreejofee,  w3m-img10:37
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Jowiejofee: w3m-img it seems10:38
inxguuuys....can somebody give me an ADVICE?... what player play mpeg (*.mpg, *.mpeg) under Linux?10:38
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Jowiejofee: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html10:39
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theCoreinx https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:39
Jowiinx: all of them basicly. if you follow the link theCore provided10:41
inxthanx guys...10:41
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gabrielhello10:42
xspadesmorning10:42
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gabrielhey can I get some help?10:43
Jowigabriel: ask and you may be lucky. be specific :)10:43
gabrielwell10:43
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gabrielI tried to install dapper10:43
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gabrielthe second10:44
FrostyGuys, is their software for flash development?10:44
FrostyFlash, such as macromedia?10:44
gabrielbut i had problem with my onboard network card10:44
stewskiare their any figures for the number of users running ubuntu?10:44
stewskithere even10:44
gabrielmarvell network card10:44
gabrielI opened a shell10:44
rambo3stewski check distwatch10:45
chaumurkypossibly iso D/L's10:45
gabriela load the sk98lin module10:45
stewskicheers rambo10:45
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gabrielbut it didnt work10:45
gabrielany ideas?10:45
ejofeeJowi: does it already work for you in a tty?10:45
gabrieli chek10:46
gabrieland the module was there10:46
sanjayanyone know how to install drivers for the Linksys Wireless Card model WPC54G or a good site to search? turned up zilch on the web so far ..10:46
stewskiyou got a url for distwatch rambo310:46
gabrielI didnt get any errors10:46
Squee-Dsanjay dya know who makes the chipset for it?10:46
rambo3i guess its distrowatch.com10:46
Jowiejofee: i have not enabled framebuffer for the console, so it won't work. the link i gave show how to set up framebuffer (640x480 256 colours for example) with lilo :)10:47
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sanjaySquee - mm.. it says Linksys a Division of Cisco systems - i guess Cisco ...10:47
Jowigabriel: the nic is wireless or cable?10:47
gabrielis cable10:47
sanjaySquee - the Linksys site has all the drivers for Windows ... nothing at all for linuxers ..10:47
Jowigabriel: model number?10:48
Squee-Dbroadcomm10:48
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stewski"A Linux distribution is like a religion." from distro wtach made me laff10:49
Squee-Dsanjay you might have to try the ndis wrapper10:49
Jowistewski: but there's only one TRUE distro. everyone knows that ;)10:49
stewskilmao Jowi10:49
sanjaySquee: aye - thats what something told me - have no idea what ndis wrapper is -- is it to import Windows driver files to the Linux OS ?10:49
MyrttiJowi: pfft. What ever gets you high is good.10:49
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stewskiis that "brian"?10:50
gabrielthis the module with my ubuntu Breezy10:50
sanjaysanjay: and do i need to download a package for ndis wrapper ?10:50
gabrielsk98lin               183844  110:50
gabrielgabriel@otilia:~$ uname -a10:50
gabrielLinux otilia 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:13:36 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:50
Myrttibut that's offtopic anyway10:50
JowiMyrtti: hehe10:50
Myrtti--> #ubuntu-offtopic10:50
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Zambbabtw, is there any way to play copy-protected cd:s in Ubuntu? :/10:50
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Squee-Dsanjay yes thats what its for10:51
MyrttiZambba: but that's illegal soon, you know... :-/10:51
stewskimost copy protection CDs can be beaten with physical means Zambba10:51
Squee-Dsanjay: but im reading around, some people say the atherton stuff works for it10:51
ZambbaMyrtti: I do know10:51
Squee-Di dont think you looked to hard on google mind you10:51
Jowigabriel: no, what model is the Marvell nic? and do you get errors when modprobing the sk98lin? if not, what does "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" do?10:51
joedjintelikey: family guy and futurama are on tv.10:51
Myrtti******** Karpela10:52
EvilOnyXdoes anyone know how 2 allow apache and php write accews 2 home directories10:52
stewskiusualy a black felt on the outer rim removes the false session that locks up the drive10:52
gabrielJowi10:52
gabrielI and running Breezy10:52
burepe1how can i tell if my comp is 386, 586 or 686?10:52
gabrieland the card is working10:52
Myrttiby the processor purchase date10:52
EvilOnyXi need 2 access a webpage and then delete files that r listed in my home dir10:52
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gabrielI tried intall dapper10:52
Zambba&whois Myrtti10:52
Myrttithe original purchase date10:52
sanjaySquee-D: can i download the ndis wrapper package or is it default installed? (i got some instructions on using ndis wrapper - i'll try that and then move on to Atherton if u can send me a link..)10:52
gabrielAnd It didnt work10:53
sorsisburepe: look number on chip or you can use your operating system to tell it.10:53
Squee-Dsanjay i suggest you start with atherton10:53
burepe1I bought it used10:53
gabrielI loaded the module without any errors10:53
Squee-Dits called madwifi and its in the linux-restricted-modules package10:53
Jowigabriel: ah, ok. at least you know that sk98lin is the correct driver and that it is functional. no idea about dapper probs10:53
gabrielbut it didnt work10:53
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sanjaySquee: cool... thanks.. can u give me a link if u have handy?10:53
Myrttiburepe1: what did you buy then10:53
burepe1how do i "use operating system to tell it"?10:53
Jowigabriel: what does ifconfig tell you about eth0?10:53
Squee-Dsanjay grab the package with apt-get, then modprobe pci_ath10:54
gabrielYou Know propietary drivers never is good10:54
gabrielit couldnt find any network card10:54
Squee-Dsanjay sorry, ath_pci10:54
inxguys..do u know where i can download pretty good action 3d/2 games for Linux?10:55
sorsisburepe: it should allso tell that when you start the computer10:55
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mahanguinx, most good games are sadly not free10:55
xirtusokay, i dont have any experience with linux, how do i install programs?10:55
mahanguinx, tried penguinracer?10:55
burepe1is there a command I can do?10:55
sanjaySquee: cool.. thanks a mil.. having some problems with my repositories actually, but ill fix that and do this -- will probably be back in a bit to follow-up.. but thanks again Squee.10:55
Jowiinx: http://www.happypenguin.org/10:55
gabrielI going to try update from Breezy10:55
mahanguxirtus, System -> Admin -> Synaptic Package manager10:55
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gabrielThanks for your time10:56
mahangugabriel, to dapper?10:56
VIPER^|^hello ther e10:56
gabrielyes10:56
sorsisburepe1: cpuid or something10:56
Squee-Dsanjay cannot promise its gunna work, but i see two posts that say the madwifi works with it10:56
VIPER^|^anybody knows wat is the channel of the sks project10:56
mahangugabriel, take that talk to #ubuntu-offtopic10:56
mahanguwe can talk more there10:56
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burepe1command not found10:56
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sorsisburepe1: use tab to find similar commands or locate function10:57
sorsisburepe1: locate cpu10:57
VIPER^|^anybody knows wat is the channel of the sks project10:57
Squee-Dmy machine is turning off all on its own10:58
Squee-Dits terrifying10:58
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JowiSquee-D: loose cable somewhere?10:58
Squee-Dnever did anything like this until i installed ubuntu10:58
Squee-Djowi nope. and its in a stable position, and it has ups power10:59
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Myrttirun memtest11:00
JowiSquee-D: try turning off acpi in grub: kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro pci=noacpi quiet splash11:00
Squee-Dacpi and apm are both off11:00
Squee-Dthey were stopping my ethernet card from working11:00
JowiSquee-D: that is wierd11:00
Squee-Dooh wait11:00
Squee-Di think i might have made a typo on the boot line11:01
Squee-Dis acpi needed for sensors?11:01
Jowino idea11:01
Jowiprobably11:01
rambo3i dont think so11:01
Jowiacpi monitors my fan and cpu at least11:02
mahangui have the cedega 5 debs11:02
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mahanguanyone instaleld them before?11:02
Squee-Di did make a typo11:02
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joedjhow do i allow access to my X server from another (local) user?11:05
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fastlywhat is the quickest way to install apache2, php5, mysql5 on 5.10?11:05
fastlysorry, i'm new to ubuntu11:05
rambo3there is wiki fastly11:06
Seveasfastly, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server11:06
Seveas(and that's mysql 4.1 - 5 is not available yet)11:06
Jowimahangu: yep, when i still subscribed. worked fine.11:06
fastlyalso, is there a default root password because i can't wheel to root...11:06
Squee-DSeveas.. that names familiar :)11:06
fastlysu -11:06
rambo3no11:06
fastlythen i type my password and it says auth failure11:07
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SeveasSquee-D, ?11:07
rambo3its you user password11:07
Jowifastly: sudo su11:07
Seveas!tell fastly about root11:07
SeveasJowi, sudo su has some inherent usafeness11:07
Seveassudo -i is better11:07
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JowiSeveas: ah, thanks for letting me know11:07
fastlycool... that works ;-)11:07
fastlynever used sudo before11:07
Squee-DSeveas i just added a package url with your name it in11:08
Seveasubuntu uses sudo all over the place11:08
Squee-Din it *11:08
fastlythanks guys11:08
SeveasSquee-D, that's not completely unlikely :)11:08
Squee-D;)11:08
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wildmanhello *11:09
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fastlyin gentoo i there are USE flags which allow me to change the compile settings... i.e. include soap extensions in php... how would i go about doing this in ubuntu?11:09
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Squee-DSeveas: for Freenz11:09
Squee-Dfreeenx *11:09
aztekhuzzah11:09
Seveasfreenx is cool11:09
fastlyi know not everything is compiled though...11:09
Seveasthere might be an update pretty soon11:10
aztekit only took 4 hours but i finally have accelerated video through my ATI card11:10
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Jowifastly: only if you .configure/make the sources11:11
joedjspecifically, i want to be able to do something like   sudo -u mythtv mythtv-setup11:11
Squee-Dim trying to set up my older machine as a media center for the living room.11:11
xubz"/dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" has someone some news about this issue on vmware/dapper ?11:11
Squee-Dis there a howto on that kind of thing :)11:11
fastlyok... does apt put make things such as apache start during boot by default?11:11
mahanguhttp://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/ <-- there are files there with the .run extension11:11
mahanguwhat are they?11:12
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Squee-Dfastly you ascing about /etc/rc#.d maybe?11:12
Squee-Dwhere you symlink the files from /etc/init.d/11:12
Jowifastly: yeah most of the time, but some packages will ask you if you want it added at boot11:13
fastlymaybe... basically the process of making services start automatically11:13
fastlyon gentoo i did: rc-update add samba boot11:13
Squee-Dfastly well thats how i would do it.. but i will guess theres a UI tool too11:13
Squee-Drc-update did much the same thing11:14
Squee-Dadd a symlink in rc#.d to the init.d script for that service11:14
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Squee-D# is the runlevel11:14
Jowifastly: that will still work in ubuntu but the command is "update-rc.d"11:14
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Squee-Dhah cool :)11:14
Squee-Di should try to be less helpful as i know nothing about this distro.. yet11:15
Seveasgnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa stupid fools here at work that cut the power.....11:15
bimberifastly: yes (to "does apt put make things such as apache start during boot by default?")11:15
bimberi:)11:16
Jowiwb Seveas11:16
Squee-DSeveas :(11:16
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fastlyok.. cool!!11:16
Squee-DIs there a howto for getting ubuntu to run SMP? Im grabbing the SMP kernel now.. and im guessing i need to make a grub entry for that kernel?11:17
JowiSquee-D: when grabbing the kernel from apt/synaptic it should automaticly add it to grum menu11:17
Jowibrum=grub11:17
bimberiSquee-D: it'll set that up automagically, just reboot after the install11:17
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JowiDangermouse: damn, i loved that cartoon!11:18
Squee-Dgool11:18
Squee-Derr11:18
Squee-Dcool11:18
JowiDangermouse: sorry for the outburst11:18
Jowi:)11:18
Dangermouseheh11:19
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Jowianyone know why ytalk from xterm -> console work but not console -> xterm?11:20
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Squee-DJowi on that topic, is there a better way to edit grub? i see a update-grub there..11:20
Squee-DAnd Duckula - same makers as dangermouse11:20
JowiSquee-D: running custom kernel and other entrys that i don't want messed up so i only do it by hand.11:21
JowiSquee-D: man update-grub11:21
henk can someone tell me how to get iptables to redirect all connections to localhost:25 to external_ip:25 ? My smtp is listening on one of the external ips and i want local connections to port 25 to be routed there11:21
Squee-Djowi sorry i should have tried that first11:22
spaceyhenk, i think smtp also can listen on localhost ;)11:22
spaceyi think it does normally actually11:22
CaptainMorganwhat are some good emulators besides wine ?11:22
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Seveashenk, iptables -t nat -A prerouting -p tcp --dest 127.0.0.1 --to-port 25 -j DNAT --destination external_ip_here11:23
Seveas(iirc)11:23
JowiCaptainMorgan: mame/xmame, zsnes, VisualBoyAdvance.11:23
JowiCaptainMorgan: since you weren't that specific about it :)11:24
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Seveashenk, iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --destination 127.0.0.1 --to-port 25 -j DNAT --to external_ip_here11:24
Seveasthat's better11:24
spaceyoh yeah11:25
spaceyread error11:25
spaceyalthough i think its better to configure postfix as a sattelite system11:26
henkspacey, I can configure my smtp to either listen on all interfaces or on only one. I want it to listen to 127.0.0.1 and just one of the external ip's so i need that portforward.11:26
henkSeveas, hmm --to-port is not valid it seems..11:26
fastlyusing the "add applications" gui i selected realplayer and in the configure realplayer windows it is asking for the location where it was downloaded and currently says "/root", which is apparently incorrect11:26
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fastlyanyone here know it would have been downloaded by default?11:27
henkSeveas, if i use --dport and try to connect it says connection refused. so it seems not working ...11:28
fastlywhere are install files downloaded to by default please?11:29
fastlyi.e. on gentoo it is /usr/portage/distfiles ...11:29
henkSeveas, i think the problem is that it may not even go through the prerouting chain?11:30
Seveasfastly, /var/cache/apt11:30
fastlythanks Seveas11:30
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fastlyhmm... doesn't appear to be there...11:31
Seveashenk, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward11:31
Seveasfastly, /var/cache/apt/archives/ actually11:31
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henkSeveas, already did tat11:33
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Squee-Dguys software update is unable to get a lock. Thinks another apt app is open.. This im sure is because my machine keeps freaking shutting off11:36
talaverahiii11:36
Squee-DWhere is the lock stored? Cannot see it in /var/lock/11:36
k31th_yo11:36
k31th_morning guys11:36
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talaverahello11:37
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talaveragood morning11:37
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broar94hello . I want a RASPPoe dialer for ubuntu , where can I find it ?11:37
thegladiatorbroar94, what are u looking for ?11:38
broar94RASPPOE*11:38
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broar94haha!!11:38
broar94my god lol !11:38
thegladiatorcan someone help him out ?11:38
thegladiatorhehe11:38
broar94I need some help guys :)11:38
paulfoxhi all. i've got an ubuntu box with 1 serial port. what hardware do i need so i can connect more than one serial device to it?11:38
broar94that was fast as well , mister :D11:38
thegladiatorheh e11:39
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thegladiatordiesel, are u there ?11:39
Squee-Dpaul its possible you have a header for a second serial port inside11:39
broar94i didnt know this channel was the official ubuntu support channel11:39
Squee-Dif not, you need an extension card11:39
thegladiatormy friend wants to set up his internet connection in ubuntu11:39
ktogiaspaulfox, a pci to serial ports card?11:39
k31thHow do i isntall MySQL headers ?? im installing trhis package and its hanging on PHP511:39
thegladiatorthis is one of the ubuntu channels11:40
Squee-Dor a usb serial device11:40
broar94RASPPPoe , anyone ?11:40
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talaverado u know how to download some ubuntu programs11:40
talaveratell me s web please11:41
paulfoxktogias, thinking something external11:41
thegladiatortalavera, some ubuntu programs?11:41
Ngpaulfox: you can get USB serial ports11:41
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paulfoxNg, but will they work with linux, out of the box?11:41
talaverayes, as messenger11:41
Jowibroar94: "sudo pppoeconf" should do, no?11:41
broar94I want a client software like this one www.raspppoe.com11:41
talaverayes for linux11:41
thegladiatorhttp://www.raspppoe.com11:41
broar94i have tried before Jowi it didnt work11:42
thegladiatoris the site11:42
talaverathanks i'll try11:42
thegladiatortalavera, there is gaim inbuilt for that11:42
paulfoxNg, ktogias, i was thinking something like an expansion, plugging into the serial port, with 4 ports on the end of it?11:42
thegladiatortalavera, ttha was not for you sorry11:42
broar94it says unsupported command or something like that when i tried it in terminal11:42
thegladiatortalavera, ubuntu has inbuilt11:42
DelPedewhen a some users tries to login to gnome, on 5.10, Gnome-panel crashes, and says that a panel is allready running. .xsession-errors says, that the user does not exist. They are all NIS users, and ypcat passwd tells me the indeed do exist. The same users can login on 5.04 machines though11:42
Squee-Dpaulfox nice idea, unlikely :P11:42
thegladiatorbroar94, did u try that as root ?11:42
ktogiaspaulfox, I do not know if such a device exists....11:42
paulfoxsqudamn11:42
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Squee-Dpaulfox while entirely doable, it would need software support.11:43
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thegladiatorbroar94, it must have sudo prefixed to it11:43
Jowibroar94: it should. RASPPPOE: This is a PPP over Ethernet (short: PPPoE) implementation for Windows 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT 4.0, 2000, XP, .NET. PPPoE as a method for establishing PPP connections through Ethernet adapters is described in RFC 2516 and is used by many broadband service providers to allow authentication and maintain the familiar "dial-up experience" when connecting to the Internet through a broadband modem.11:43
broar94so Jowi , i want a linux supported dialer for that11:43
Ngpaulfox: not gonna happen ;)11:43
thegladiatorthats what ...broar...11:43
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paulfoxi basically need to connect 3 or four barcode scanners to the box. im worried that it wont work out of the box if i get usb11:44
broar94it didnt it told me unsupported command11:44
thegladiatortry sudo pppoeconf11:44
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Squee-Dpaulfox a multiplexer for a rs232 serial port would be considerably LESS likely to work11:44
broar94yes i have tried sudo pppoeconf11:44
Squee-D(out of the box)11:45
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Jowibroar94: if pppoeconf is not found, then install it from the cd with "sudo apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf"11:45
Ngpaulfox: a pci serial card is probably the best solution, usb serial ports have a nasty habit of changing order11:45
Ngyou can work around that with udev, most of the time11:45
thegladiatorJowi, he doesnt have net connection as such11:45
Jowithegladiator: from the cd. not net11:45
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paulfoxNg, i see11:46
broar94wow great idea Jowi . I have live cd . so do i insert install cd for this ?11:46
Squee-Dyeah a pci card will be the most solid solution11:46
Cryptidis there a  Linux version of americas Army?????11:46
paulfoxhmm, i'll have to think about this one.11:46
Hentai^XPCryptid: yes11:46
broar94yes there is crypt11:46
Jowibroar94: no idea about the live-cd. only know it is included in the install cd11:46
CryptidHentai^XP,11:46
Hentai^XP?11:46
CryptidHentai^XP, where do i get it from11:46
Hentai^XPcheck thier site11:46
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Cryptidi am planning to buy a PCI e XFX 6600 graphic card does it have any issues with Ubuntu?????11:47
Hentai^XPCryptid: www.3dgamers.com will also have it11:47
mahanguhow can i add something to my path?11:48
xirtusyeah there is americas army for linux11:48
xirtuswhats a good dvdshrink alternative -i d11:48
paulfoxNg, you think this is what i'm after? http://www.perle.com/products/product.asp?pid=04001870&cat=C00411:48
xirtusso... -anyone know of a good dvdshrink alternative?11:49
CryptidHentai^XP, what are minimum requirments for AA ???11:50
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ejofeewhat made ubuntu so popular?11:50
xirtusfree disks in the mail i'd say11:50
Squee-Dholy crap. Freenx is very very nice11:50
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Ngpaulfox: yeah, that looks about right, anything based on a standard UART should work fine11:50
Ngejofee: it rocks!11:50
ejofeeits evolution is very strange, it reached the top almost from the very beginning. why?!11:50
Hentai^XPCryptid: no idea sorry11:50
ejofeeNg: it rocks why?11:51
Cryptidok thanx11:51
paulfoxNg, excellent. thanks for the i/o ;)11:51
Jowiejofee: for me it was that it didn't frustrate me as much as other distros.11:51
Hentai^XPCryptid: I know it can run on atleast a 1GHZ AMD athlon, 512MB ram, and a FX 5600xt11:51
Ngejofee: I'd say it's because it's Debian, but useful for a desktop11:51
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ejofeeJowi: right... for me too. which were some of your frustrations?11:51
mahangumy hda1 NTFS drive wont mount anymore11:52
mahanguwierd11:52
ejofeeNg: right. this is, indeed, what attracts me MOST. and this is why i am upset there's no binary compatibility between the two (plus i don't understand why)11:52
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Jowiejofee: rpm dependencies and wierd config file placements and flakey hardware drivers11:52
thegladiatorJowi, does live cd have ppp configuration facilities ?11:53
Jowithegladiator: i do not know11:53
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talaverawhere can i download a messenger for ubuntu??11:53
ejofeeJowi: you could use mandriva's urpmi which does just what apt-get does11:53
mahangusudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o rw,users11:53
mahanguthat didn't work for me11:53
mahanguany ideas?11:53
ejofeetalavera: d4x, it's in the universe11:53
Jowiejofee: i did but it didn't "do it" for me :)11:53
xirtusso dvdsrhink. nothin? really? linux is that lame? see five years back, i had a choice, convert to osx or convert to linux, i chose apple because its fascist nature seems more practical than a socialist operating system,,, -i was kinda' hoping i was wrong...11:53
ejofeeJowi: what was it missing?11:53
talaverawhat is universe ejofee11:54
ejofeetalavera: d4x is absolutely cool11:54
Jowiejofee: dependencies most of the time, even though it is supposed to solve them11:54
ejofeetalavera: can you "sudo apt-get install d4x"?11:54
talaverain a terminal?11:55
ejofeeJowi: i see11:55
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Jowiejofee: apt-cache search --names-only d4x11:55
ejofeetalavera: sure11:55
ejofeetalavera: better do as Jowi says: "sudo apt-cache search --names-only d4x" in a terminal11:55
ejofeetalavera: no quotation marks, obviously! :)11:55
driesa little question: can anyone tell me how to get java 1.5 up and running on ubuntu breezy ?11:56
ejofeedries: a little answer: yes, of course.11:56
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driesI mean, changing the sources.list and using apt11:56
Jowitalavera: apt-cache search is very useful11:56
ejofeedries: (that is, most of us can)11:56
ejofeedries :D11:56
driesso, tell me :-)11:56
fooooobarwhere do i find a new zealand mirror for ubuntu repositories. it's really slooow from here.11:56
Squee-Dejofee, i think he wants one of us to actually do it11:57
ejofeedries: ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:57
Squee-Dfoooooobar funny i think mine defaulted to nz11:57
ejofeeSquee-D: well... :P11:57
Jowidries: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:57
fooooobarSquee-D, hehe can you past what you're using now?11:57
Ngejofee: binary compatibility is not necessarily a good thing11:57
fooooobars/spast/paste11:57
driesok, I'll take a look11:57
ejofeeJowi: i guess in debian/ubuntu apt-get is always the best answer :)11:57
driesthx ejofee11:57
ejofeeNg: why not?11:58
ejofeedries: anytime11:58
fooooobarSquee-D, can you paste a rep URL?11:58
Squee-Dfooooobar i may be able to iff freenx supports copy and paste11:58
fooooobarSquee-D, try... thx11:58
mahanguanybody know how I can mount my ntfs drive?11:58
thegladiatormahangu, hey11:58
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thegladiatormahangu, did u specify the filesystem ?11:59
thegladiatorwhile mounting ?11:59
Jowiejofee: ...until we find something better haha11:59
Squee-Dnz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is what i got, which i see does not point here11:59
ejofeeNg: i don't mean to bring it to the extreme, but i would say "binary compatibility as much as possible" would be a very good approach. am i wrong (and if so, why)?11:59
mahanguthegladiator, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o rw,users mahangu@arwen:~$11:59
fooooobarSquee-D, thanks a ton11:59
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mahangusorry11:59
Squee-Dhowever i was getting 70kps11:59
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mahangutake off everything after users11:59
mahangu:)11:59
ejofeeJowi :)11:59
mahangubad copy11:59
Ngejofee: it would mean the two were forced to stay effectively the same12:00
Jowimahangu: rw? anyone know if the ntfs driver support full write support now?12:00
Ngejofee: which would limit ubuntu to working at the pace debian works, which is bloody slow ;)12:00
talaveraejofee: it said that the command "sudo apt" is not correct12:00
mahanguJowi, sorry that was habit, ill take it out and try12:00
thegladiatormahangu, whats the error u get ?12:00
ejofeeNg: really? would it limit ubuntu that way?12:00
mahanguthegladiator, bash: cd: /media/hda1: Permission denied12:01
talaverayes12:01
mahangunautilus tells me i dont have the correct permissions12:01
mahanguit mounts fine, i just cant access it12:01
Ngejofee: yes, they would have to match debian's libc and gcc versions at least, then if you wanted compatibility for gnome type apps you'd need to match their gnome version, etc.12:01
talaverawhat is "sudo"12:01
thegladiatorsudo = change to root12:01
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thegladiatorswitch user12:02
ejofeetalavera: it gives you access to tasks otherwise performable only as root12:02
ejofeetalavera: do you have the root account enabled?12:02
Jowitalavera: sudo is a security measure. lets a user run as superuser12:02
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thegladiatormahangu, i guess then Jowi was correct12:02
ejofeetalavera: are you a newbye to gnu/linux?12:02
thegladiatorperhaps it could be only read only ?12:02
Squee-Dfooooobar now im getting 170kBps - cant complain about that12:02
talaveraejofee: no, i think that is not enable12:02
Jowitalavera: root is disabled as default. read more here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:02
talaverathanks12:03
mahanguthegladiator, Jowi, i mounted - sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o users,ro12:03
ejofeeNg: i see, now it's all clear... then it's a good thing to recompile them all. however, can i be sure that the two distros will maintain source compatibility?12:03
mahangustill wont work12:03
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ejofeetalavera: then you *have* to use sudo12:03
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ejofeetalavera: are you sure you wrote "sudo apt-get install d4x"?12:03
linxwat is a good multiple dns update client with a gui interface?12:04
ejofeetalavera: are you sure you used the dash and no space?12:04
talaveraejofee: YES12:04
Ngejofee: I wouldn't guarantee it, but it's much harder to be source incompatible and at least the packaging used by both is the same, so rebuilding or patching them is very easy12:04
cyphaseHow long before we can put "Don't Panic!" on the front page of Wikipedia?12:04
thegladiatorpermission denied error still ?12:04
fooooobarSquee-D, slow from here.. sheeet12:04
Squee-Dfooooobar its your route then12:04
ejofeetalavera: then, for some weird reasons, you seem not to have apt-get installed. are you using... ubuntu?!12:04
Squee-Dfooooobar: which carrier and whereabouts?12:04
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fooooobarSquee-D, i think so.... we're out in the country here12:05
mahanguthegladiator, yes12:05
Jowimahangu: sorry, was not paying attention. should be "user" not "users"12:05
fooooobarSquee-D, clear.net.nz... what are you on?12:05
Squee-Dheh rural NZ eh? so you got a horse running the packets back n forth?12:05
thegladiatormahangu, try without any options ?12:05
Squee-Dorcon, in devenport/auckland12:05
mahanguthegladiator,  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o user,ro12:05
mahangusame problem12:05
mahanguJowi, sorry that was for you12:05
thegladiatorlike sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda112:05
pparkerhi, i want to download but torrent tracker is down12:06
Jowimahangu: got it :)12:06
fooooobarSquee-D, we produce TCP/IP packets with sticks, glued together with horse saliva. and you?12:06
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talaveraejofee: yes i'm using ubuntu, is the only thing that i'm sure12:06
mahanguwierd12:06
mahangui can get in as root12:06
mahangusudo -s12:06
mahanguand then it works fine12:06
Squee-Dfooooobar im in upmarket auckland mate, we give the sticks a condescending stare if they dare part!12:06
pparkeranyones got an url for DapperFlight2 ?12:06
Squee-Dno need for glue12:06
thegladiatoryeah sometimes it does12:06
ejofeetalavera :))12:07
Jowimahangu: try to add umask=00012:07
thegladiatormahangu, it cud be because of issue with oath variables12:07
linxwat is a good multiple dns update client with a gui interface?12:07
thegladiatormahange edit ur fstav12:07
thegladiatorfstab and add as jowi said12:07
ejofeetalavera: did you install it?12:07
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Squee-Dlinx its rare you need to repeat yourself that close together12:07
ejofeetalavera: it MATTERS which user you are currently logged in as12:07
fooooobarSquee-D, may the goats smile on you12:07
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talaveraejofee: "E: Couldn't find package d4x"12:07
thegladiatormahangu, something like /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    umask=0000        0       012:08
ejofeetalavera: oh, now it's much better12:08
ejofeeok12:08
ejofeetalavera: here's what you do12:08
Squee-Dfooooobar may the sheep be gentle :P12:08
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mahanguYES12:08
mahanguUMASK12:08
ejofeetalavera: sudo synaptic12:08
mahanguwoo12:08
Jowithegladiator, mahangu: only 3 zeros in umask btw12:08
thegladiatorand try booting , see if its available to all users12:08
mahanguthanks Jowi thegladiator12:08
thegladiatoroh sorry12:08
Squee-Ddid you all know that we found a new use for sheep in new zealand?12:08
mahangui put 4 worked fine :)12:08
Jowinp mahangu12:08
ejofeetalavera: hope it works from the first attempt :)12:09
Squee-Dwool.12:09
fooooobarSquee-D, it is too late. their horns we have beared the brunt of12:09
thegladiatori use 4 zeroes actually12:09
talaveraejofee: yes12:09
thegladiatorbut have seen 3 used many places mostly12:09
ejofeetalavera: is synaptic on?12:09
Jowithegladiator: wierd. didn't do it for me with 4 zeros. haha12:09
talaveraejofee: i have synaptic package manager12:09
pparkerwhy trackers are down ?12:09
thegladiator:D lucky me12:09
talaveraejofee: yes, correct12:10
ejofeetalavera: settings/repositories12:10
ejofeetalavera: and check every box in front of each url12:10
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Jowitalavera: see here for how to add repositories (with screenshots) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:11
ejofeetalavera: tha way you will have access to many more software, which will be downloaded automatically from the web. (boy, ain't that COOL?!)12:11
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kovajagnu ko12:12
talaveraejofee: ok12:12
ejofeetalavera: now close this repositories window and then press the "reload" button12:12
kovajagledus12:12
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JemtGreetings. I think my fstab have changed since I turned off my laptop last night. A 'errors=remount-ro' line has been added to <options> for my root partition - and the CD-ROM drive has been added to the fstab file too. Is this normal? And does my fstab look right to your guys: http://powerzone.dk/fstab  ?12:12
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Jemthas*12:12
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ejofeetalavera: that's all: now you have access to pretty much everything you might ever need. all you have to do is to search throught the list on the right...12:13
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ejofeetalavera: you can quick search by typing the name12:13
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ejofeetalavera: ... and it downloads everything automatically... no need for you to try to find it on the web anymore12:13
ejofeetalavera: when you find your pack, all you have to do is to right-click on it and choose whatever you want to do with it12:14
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SeveasJemt, the installer adds these things, so it would be weird if it weren't there before12:14
ejofeetalavera: say yes if it asks you if it is ok to also install some "dependencies"12:14
ejofeetalavera: ok?12:14
ejofeetalavera: you'll surely love it!12:14
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JemtSeveas: Hm, I might be wrong. I was pretty tired last night :)12:14
Squee-Dooooh my smp kernel appears to be working.. bring on the multiprocessing!12:15
SeveasJemt, hehe12:15
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ejofeetalavera: still there? does it work?12:15
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rob1yay wireless networking is so fun to set up.. not12:15
Squee-DSeveas freenx is the bomb12:16
SeveasSquee-D, I know :)12:16
salvahi!12:16
Squee-Di fired it up when i finally worked out why machine kept booting12:16
JemtSeveas: But how does my fstab look? Is it alright? I'm using hda4 for both Windows and Linux (thats why I have added umask and iocharset as we talked about last night). I'm also using my USB key for both Linux and Windows - but that is not listed in fstab which I find strange12:16
salvai ve a problem12:16
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Jowirob1: pure joy in any system :)12:16
salvasomeone can help me ??12:16
Seveaswireless is cool :)12:16
Seveas!tell salva about someone12:16
ejofeesalva: i have no idea which problem that is12:16
ejofeesalva: so... just ask12:16
Blue-Steelwhat password does ubuntu uses for root ? i mean .. during install it didnt even asked me  for a root pass12:16
Jemtsalva: Ask your question12:16
rob1Jowi, oh, I've got a netgear wireless router that wants to do its own thing12:16
Seveas!tell Blue-Steel about root12:16
JowiSeveas: uboto is dead12:16
salvai ve kubuntu12:16
Seveas!+test12:17
ubotuStop poking me!12:17
tRSSHey Guys/Gals. I am trying install real player 10 on my breezy. I have downloaded a .bin file from real's website, but I am not sure how to convert it into a debian package12:17
JemtBlue-Steel: It's the same password as yours12:17
rob1losts of fun12:17
salvaand i want to use ivman12:17
Seveasno it's not :)12:17
rob1umm12:17
salvabut it doesnt work12:17
JemtBlue-Steel: Use the password you specified for your user account12:17
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ejofeesalva: well, having kubuntu is not really a problem12:17
talaveraejofee: i don't really know what i have to do in synaptic12:17
salvai plug a usb pen12:17
Seveasejofee, that's a tough discussion point :)12:17
Squee-Dhahah12:17
ejofeeSeveas :D12:17
Jowirob1: "its own thing"? haha, cool12:17
Blue-SteelJemt  not working . i can login with my user . but not with root :S12:18
JemtBlue-Steel: Oh, you are trying to 'su'12:18
ejofeetalavera: did you press the "reload" button?12:18
Blue-Steelyes su12:18
tRSSBlue-Steel: U need to enable root login12:18
irvinBlue-Steel, root login is disabled12:18
JemtBlue-Steel: Use 'sudo <command-to-execute>'12:18
Blue-Steelok and where ?12:18
SeveasBlue-Steel, sudo -i12:18
Seveasthat gives you a root shell12:18
talaveraejofee: now yes12:18
Seveasenabling rout is not advised12:18
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JemtBlue-Steel: If you want to enable the root account type : sudo su <enter> - then change your password with 'passwd'12:18
ejofeetalavera: has it finished doing... sfuff?12:18
Blue-Steelewww... sudo ..12:19
talaverayes12:19
Jowitalavera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:19
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Blue-Steel im sorry guys  i like debian but not having root ...12:19
Blue-Steel:S12:19
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ejofeetalavera: do you now see a list beginning with "3dchess", "3ddesktop" etc.?12:19
SeveasBlue-Steel, sudo passwd root12:19
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JemtBlue-Steel: You might prefer Seveas way of duing it. That dosn't enable the root account which is probably more secure12:19
tRSSBlue-Steel: try this: Security Tab -> Options -> Allow root to login with GDM (Checked)12:19
cyphaseLinux for flexibility, Mac for ease of use, and Windows for what not to do12:19
Seveaswith that you enable the root password12:19
cyphaselol12:19
tRSSBlue-steel: sudo is more secure12:19
Blue-SteelJemt  well not really .12:20
tRSShow to convert a .bin file to a debian package?12:20
Squee-Dwho has a p4 3.? ghz? I'd like to know what linux says the bogomips are :)12:20
SeveastRSS, magic smoke12:20
JemtBlue-Steel: Ok :)12:20
Blue-Steelits secure is well configured12:20
ejofeetalavera: click somewhere in the list and them write the name of the software you need (for instance, type "d4...") and it should find "d4x" (the downloader)12:20
tRSSSeveas: ?12:20
Blue-Steelbut not more. but i understand the thing12:20
talaveraejofee: with acpi12:20
ejofeetalavera: however, you won't need d4x for installing software, you can use... synaptic12:20
tenshiKurhey all, wondering if anyone has any definitive setup info for a linksys wpc54g wifi card, on a dell latitude laptop, i've read, done all the basics, plus advanced stuff, but no go12:20
ejofeetalavera: oh, ok12:20
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Blue-SteeltRSS  i instaled as server12:21
ejofeetalavera: how many thousands of packages does it say it has? (on the status bar)12:21
tenshiKuri'm using an airport extreme and airport express, wondering if that might be the prob12:21
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talaveraejofee: no it doesn't find d4x12:21
ejofeetalavera: how many packages?12:21
Squee-DtenshiKur0 you tried the madwifi module then?12:22
Ngtalavera: if you can't see d4x you probably need to enable the universe repository12:22
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Blue-Steelso .. how many users can run sudo ? only 1 or all after the install if they are added ?12:22
seifuSquee-D: (ok, no not all... then), no haven't tried that one12:22
tRSSBlue-Steel: why do you need root access? elaborate a little more12:23
NgBlue-Steel: only those in the "admin" group12:23
JowiBlue-Steel: all users that is listed in /etc/sudoers12:23
ejofeeNg: this is just what i told talavera...12:23
Blue-SteeltRSS  i instaled as server . no gui there :)12:23
seifudid some reading on it, but was basically just using wpa_supplicant and the win drivers that are available for my card...12:23
JowiBlue-Steel: and that is in "admin" group as Ng said12:23
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fojtr1amhi12:23
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ndlovuhi all. any idea how I might browse windows machines from the terminal? I want to find out if one computer specifically is broadcasting its name with netbios.12:23
talaveraejofee: i don't know where can i see the number of packages12:23
Blue-Steeli ve used debian months ago . i just want to check ubuntu12:23
seifuchecking out madwifi/now/again12:24
JemtBRB12:24
ndlovushould ping work?12:24
seifuthanks, will try that and see...12:24
jdubndlovu: check out smbclient12:24
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Seveasseifu, hint: use the madwifi drivers from my repo12:24
Squee-Dseifu grab linux-restricted-modules and then modprobe ath_pci12:24
Seveasthey actually work with wpa_supplicant12:24
ejofee"<ejofee> talavera: how many thousands of packages does it say it has? (on the status bar)"12:24
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fojtr1amHi, is there any way, how to change debian to ubuntu?12:24
ejofeetalavera: do you know what a status bar is?12:24
ndlovujdub: in what way?12:24
seifuk... will do, thanks, again12:24
Seveasthe restricted-modules madwifi drivers are ick12:24
fojtr1amsome sources change or something?12:24
jdubndlovu: as in, have a look at it, it will help you do what you want to do12:24
talaveraejofee: no12:24
Squee-DSeveas they work tho12:24
jdubfojtr1am: yeah, but not recommended12:25
senectusDoes anyone know how to reconfigure EDS ? mine keeps locking up my gnome sessions because I swapped sound cards out12:25
SeveasSquee-D, not for me12:25
Squee-Dalthough it all fell apart when i updated to 686-smp on me12:25
irvinwould it be better to edit the admin entry of /etc/group?12:25
fojtr1amIsn't it safe?12:25
ejofeetalavera: the status bar is the bottom of a window.12:25
Squee-Dnow they just dissapeared12:25
ndlovujdub: right. see what you mean :)12:25
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jdubfojtr1am: it's just not guaranteed to work very well12:25
Squee-Dsev what do you use?12:25
ejofeetalavera: it should say how many packages12:25
Seveaswpasupplicant + madwifi + restricted modules + 802.1x == no go12:25
talaveraejofee: ok, sorry12:25
ejofeeare available12:25
ejofeetalavera: np12:25
talaveraejofee: 1488 packages12:25
ejofeetalavera: we all learn.12:25
Squee-Di just used madwifi (which is in restricted modules)12:25
Squee-Doh right wpa12:25
ejofeetalavera: did you check everything i told you?12:26
Blue-Steelwhats the difference from lpadmin and admin12:26
seifubrb12:26
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Squee-Di am doing the unfortunate and using wep and mac filtering12:26
jdubBlue-Steel: lp means printer12:26
Blue-Steelok :)12:26
talaveraejofee: 1033 installed12:26
senectusDoes anyone know how to reconfigure EDS ? mine keeps locking up my gnome sessions because I swapped sound cards out12:26
jdubBlue-Steel: just special permission groups12:26
ejofeetalavera: on the left, did you click on "all"?12:26
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talaveraejofee: yes12:26
talaveraejofee: yes i have 1488 packages listed12:27
ejofeetalavera: then maybe you didn't do what i told you12:27
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ejofeetalavera: in the menu, go to settings/repositories12:27
ejofeetalavera: is everything checked in there?12:27
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ejofeetalavera: (you may need to scroll down!)12:27
talaveraejofee: what u mean with checked12:28
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ejofeetalavera: you are not an english-as-a-first-language speaker, are you?12:28
talaveraejofee: i have a window called "software preferences"12:28
odati have a machine with ubuntu that won't boot anymore since the xserver won't start i tried to reconfigure it but it doesn't do anything i still get the same answer     any suggestions?12:28
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talaveraejofee: no i'm spanish12:29
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Blue-Steeli need a tip reminding me here do set the mirrors to update the distro12:29
ejofeetalavera: click on the tiny square in front of each url (web address), so that you may get a tiny black sign in it.12:29
Blue-Steeli need to conf apt-get12:29
Jowiodat: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if the svga driver work for you.12:29
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odatJowi, any idea why it would just stop working like that?12:30
senectusDoes anyone know how to reconfigure ESD ? mine keeps locking up my gnome sessions because I swapped sound cards out12:30
ejofeetalavera: do this in setting / repositories! (not in settings / preferences!)12:30
Jowiodat: impossible to know. check exactly which error you got12:30
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odatk12:30
ejofeetalavera: have you enabled everything in settings / repositories12:30
ejofeetalavera: ?12:31
talaveraejofee: no, is repositories, but i only have cd ubuntu 5.1012:31
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jonohi all12:31
jonowe record the LUGRadio chrismas show tonight, so go and leave a short happy chrismas message saying who you are by calling 0870 931 1730 (+44 870 931 1730 for international callers) - remember to keep it short as we want to stick quite a few on :)12:31
talaveraejofee: i don't know exactly what i have to do12:31
ejofeetalavera: nothing else that you could enable?12:31
talaveraejofee: no more12:31
Ngjono: cool :)12:32
ejofeetalavera: wait then12:32
fastlymy laptop has an ati radeon and i am working off a default install... the screen resolution and 2D graphics are fine, but i don't know if the official drivers are installed... any ideas how i can check if they are installed and if not how to install them please?12:32
jonoNg, :)12:32
ejofeetalavera: i will help you12:32
talaveraejofee: it let me: add, remove and edit12:32
ejofeetalavera: leave that window. you don't need it anymore.12:32
Jowi!ati12:32
ubotusomebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:32
ejofeetalavera: in fact, just close synaptic.12:32
talaveraejofee: ok12:32
Jowifastly: check the ubotu link12:32
talaveraejofee: ok12:32
Squee-D!nvidia12:33
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:33
ejofeenow, in a console, run: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"12:34
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ejofeetalavera: NO, I CORRECT IT: run: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"12:34
ubu_on_epiahi all12:34
Mabus06ubotu, hi12:35
ubotuhey12:35
ejofeetalavera: did you run the correct one?12:35
Mabus06oh you're back, sweet12:35
Squee-Dnano is sexier :P12:35
tRSShow can I install a debian package? what is the command? dpkg -i ?12:35
ejofeeSquee-D: sexier than what?12:35
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irvintRSS, yes12:35
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Squee-Dgedit12:35
ejofeeSquee-D: maybe... :)12:35
Squee-Di am being silly of course, just an amazing comfort level i've built up with nano over the years12:36
tRSSirvin: but it won't install the real player package, which I just alien'ated12:36
tRSSirvin: actually it does, but I dont see real player12:36
talaveraejofee: perfect12:36
ejofeetalavera: now you see a text file12:36
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ejofeetalavera: don't change anything in it for now!12:36
ejofeetalavera: ok?12:36
talaveraejofee: yes12:37
irvintRSS, from what package did you convert it from?12:37
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tRSSan rpm package I downloaded from the real site12:37
ejofeetalavera: wait...12:37
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ubu_on_epiaAnybody with experience on running breezy on a Via Epia-Board in here?12:38
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ejofeetalavera: now you *have* to close synaptic12:39
ubu_on_epia!epia12:39
ubotuubu_on_epia: Do they come in packets of five?12:39
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ejofeetalavera: have you already closed it?12:39
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Squee-Dhaha12:39
Squee-Dthey could, nice small boards12:39
tRSSirvin: i converted it from an rpm package by: sudo alien package_name.rpm12:39
ubu_on_epia!via dri12:39
ubotuI haven't a clue, ubu_on_epia12:39
fastlywhat is the best wifi connection software for gnome?12:40
ejofeetalavera: hello?12:40
JowitRSS: why not download the installer from real?12:40
Jowiubu_on_epia: you're in luck my friend!12:40
irvintRSS, i never used real player before... have you checked out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?12:40
tRSSJowi: i will try that.. thanks for the advice12:40
Jowiubu_on_epia: i just finished a wiki on that topic12:41
ubu_on_epiaSquee-D, Yes, neat little thingy.... unfortunately I just went through the Epia-Howto from the wiki but can't get the video working with the 'via'-xmodule :-(12:41
Jowihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViaEpiaDriHowto12:41
irvintRSS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b12:41
ubu_on_epia^^^^ That's the prob ^^^12:41
ubu_on_epiaDoesn't work as promised for me12:41
Jowiubu_on_epia: so where did you fail?12:42
Squee-Dheheheh nice one Jowi..12:42
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ubu_on_epiaJust did the Kernel recompile, but if I try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to the via modules, X crashes... (running the vesa now, works fine sofar)12:43
talaveraejofee: hi12:43
Jowiubu_on_epia: maybe you need to install the restricted-modules...12:43
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Mabus06Can someone give me some help with samba? When I go to networking, it prompts for login info. I fill it in, and it asks for it again. Repeat.12:44
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ejofeetalavera: what happened?12:44
Mabus06Computer is on, everything has the right uppercase/lowecae and all that n00b junk...12:44
ubu_on_epianaaah... there's dedicated via xmodules in brrezy (not restricted) but i just can't get them to work12:44
talaveraejofee: i'm to do with the web12:45
ejofeetalavera: have you closed synaptic?12:45
ejofeetalavera: you have problems with your net connection?12:45
talaveraejofee: no12:45
ejofeetalavera: close it now12:45
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talaveraejofee: i think i had12:45
ejofeetalavera: i am sorry, you have to close it ;)12:45
Jowiubu_on_epia: i use the normal via driver provided by default in xorg. can you post your xorg.conf in the pastebin?12:45
ubu_on_epiaMom12:45
ejofeetalavera: have you closed it?12:45
talaveraejofee: ok12:46
Blue-Steelwhere do i set the mirrors to be able to apt-get the OS ? i did server install. but nlike debian it did not ask me for the list or repositories12:46
ejofeetalavera: have you? you just say when12:46
irvinBlue-Steel, it's on /etc/apt/sources.list12:46
talaveraejofee: yes12:46
ejofeetalavera: do you still have that file open?12:46
talaveraejofee: no12:47
ejofeetalavera: the text file12:47
ejofeetalavera: what happened?12:47
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Blue-Steelirvin thank u12:47
ejofeetalavera: you accidentally closed it?12:47
talaveraejofee: yes12:47
ejofeetalavera: ok, then run again: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"12:47
talaveraejofee: that's right12:47
ejofeetalavera: you have to edit something in it, are you ready?12:47
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talaveraejofee: yes12:48
Mabus06Can someone give me some help with samba? When I go to networking, it prompts for login info. I fill it in, and it asks for it again. Repeat.12:48
Jowiubu_on_epia: which epia board hav eyou got?12:48
ejofeetalavera: ok. now visit this link and do exactly what it says (i wrote it): http://pastebin.com/46508912:48
ejofeetalavera: tell me when you're finished, ok?12:48
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irvinBlue-Steel, np12:49
ubu_on_epiaOk, here' my xorg-conf  and lspci:12:50
ubu_on_epiahttp://pastebin.com/46509612:50
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Jaredhow do i add fonts to ubuntu12:50
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ejofeeJared: i guess you could do it from kcontrol (search through the menu)12:51
talaveraejofee: all right12:51
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talaveraejofee: i've finish12:52
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ejofeetalavera: have you saved it?12:52
talaveraejofee: yes12:52
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ejofeetalavera: have you closed it?12:52
talaveraejofee: yes12:52
wouterrrguys.... hello! i've installed ubuntu for a guy on school, he was interesed in Linux. Everything all right, for one thing. I edited menu.lst in /boot/grub for the Windows Parition. Now, i've configured grub over a thousand times, but it won't boot and says: error 1212:52
tRSSmy breezy says "setting up realplayer (10.0....)" but I cant find it anywhere? I did a sudo dpkg -i realplayer_package.deb12:52
fastlyi notice that 5.10 actually comes with openoffice 1.9.129, not the final release of 2...12:53
ejofeetalavera: ok, now go to a console and run "sudo apt-get update" (without the quotation marks, of course)12:53
odatJowi, still here?12:53
wouterrrI've got this annoying problem with Ubuntu 5.1012:53
irvintRSS, try whereis realplayer12:53
Jowiubu_on_epia: try to remove fbdev in xorg.conf and add  BusID and change driver to "via" again and add "PCI:1:0:0"  to the Section "Device"12:53
tRSSirvin: no result12:53
Jaredejofee: i use gnome12:53
Squee-Dis there a grub syntax checker?12:54
Jowiubu_on_epia: that is, remove the whole line with the fbdev, or comment it out.12:54
irvintRSS, did you follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?12:54
fastlyanyone here know how to get openoffice 2 final release?12:54
ejofeeJared: oops...12:54
ubu_on_epiaTried that before.... have 3 different xorg.conf's to fiddle around with....12:54
Jowiubu_on_epia: whooops. should say: add BusID "PCI:1:0:0"12:54
talaveraejofee: ok12:54
talaveraejofee: next12:54
tRSSirvin: let me check there first, i havent checked this website yet12:54
ejofeetalavera: finished?12:54
odatJowi, i just check the xserver log and it said  "can not read /etc/X11/X  symbolic link invalid argument12:55
talaveraejofee: next12:55
ubu_on_epiaCan anyone positively acknowledge, that the stock via xmodules in Breezy work??12:55
ejofeetalavera: ok. now "sudo synaptic"12:55
Jowiodat: you uninstalled X!?12:55
ejofeetalavera: how many packages now?12:55
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tRSSirvin: i am going to download the package and try again.. thanks for the URL12:56
odatJowi, no i never uninstalled it12:56
thegladiatorcan someone help me in making a deb from RealPlayer10GOLD.bin12:56
thegladiator  ?12:56
Jowiubu_on_epia: i can. they work. i use them now. only need to activate drm/dri + chipset in kernel.12:56
irvintRSS, no prob12:56
talaveraejofee: ok12:56
ejofeetalavera: how many?12:56
talaveraejofee: 1792712:56
ubu_on_epiaJowi, can u show ur xorg.conf in pastebin, plz?12:56
talaveraejofee: listed12:56
ejofeetalavera: cool12:56
irvinthegladiator, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has nice instructions on how to get Real Player working12:56
talaveraejofee: now i have d4x12:57
ejofeetalavera: now what do you want to install?12:57
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u|qoshow can i see via console a list of all packages which are installed?12:57
ejofeetalavera: of course you have it... together with lots of other apps12:57
thegladiatorirvin, i checked that one , it says to download deb package while i have a bin with me12:57
talaveraejofee: which are my possibilities12:57
thegladiatori thought i would try compiling a making a deb out of it12:57
ejofeetalavera: it depends on what you want12:57
ejofeetalavera: ... or need12:57
talaveraejofee: i don't know, a messenger12:57
ejofeetalavera: gaim12:58
tRSSthegladiator: bin file won't help you.. get the deb file12:58
talaveraejofee: some things but only as a user12:58
irvinthegladiator, try running it instead ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin12:58
thegladiatorlet me try that...12:58
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thegladiatortRSS, why do u say that >?12:58
odatany suggestions?12:58
ejofeetalavera: install everything that includes gaim12:58
yshsu168Does anybody use gaim-cvs???12:59
ejofeetalavera: (for example: "gaim-encryption", "gaim-irchelper", "gaim-guifications", etc.)12:59
irvinthegladiator, tRSS has the same problem12:59
Mabus06everything that includes gaim, ejofee? is that wise?12:59
Mabus06oh, everything with the gaim- prefix yes12:59
thegladiatori see tRSS did u try that one and u didnt get any result ?12:59
thegladiatordid u unstall the lib needed ?12:59
ejofeeMabus06: well, i want talavera to see what gaim can do (together with its plugins)12:59
Mabus06Not every result that pops up for gaim in a synaptic search01:00
fastlyis the final version of openoffice 2 available on any of the package management systems?01:00
ejofeeMabus06: i don't think any plugin poses any serious security threat, am i wrong?01:00
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Mabus06You can install things really not related to gaim at all.01:00
Jowiubu_on_epia: here's yours modified: http://pastebin.com/465107, here's mine http://pastebin.com/465108 (remember that i have LCD screen so it will be a bit different)01:00
Mabus06That might pop up in the search because they're 'compatible with gaim' or somesuch.01:00
talaveraejofee: so i have to install everything that include gaim01:00
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thegladiatorsudo always asks me for a password ...when is that set  ?01:00
ejofeeMabus06: ohh, no, i guess talavera will only look at packages beginning with "gaim" (which i am sure are only gaim related)01:01
Ngthegladiator: the password for your user01:01
Mabus06talavera, everything with the gaim- prefix..  gaim-irchelper, etc01:01
irvinthegladiator, use your user password01:01
thegladiatorthanks01:01
Ngthegladiator: you would have set it during the install01:01
thegladiatoryep i got it01:01
ubu_on_epiaJowi, thx, hold on a sec.. :-)01:01
tRSSthegladiator: actually i am trying the deb package myself right now. I am downloading it right now and I will provide feedback about it soon01:01
odatJowi,  any idea?01:01
ejofeetalavera: everything that begins with "gaim-", including gaim itself01:01
yshsu168fastly: When installed breezy, it is already OOO2.01:01
thegladiatorthank you , tRSS did u ionstall the lobs needed before trying out with bin ?01:01
Jowiodat: not really. no idea why X would have dissapeared.01:01
talaveraejofee: u know if i can use the same mail (hotmail i mean)01:01
ejofeeMabus06: i didn't teach talavera how to use search... it's all about the quick search01:02
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tRSSthegladiator: yes, i did try it with the libs01:02
ejofeetalavera: yes, you can. also, yahoo, aol, etc.01:02
ejofeetalavera: gaim is multiprotocol01:02
thegladiatortRSS, ok01:02
Mabus06ejofee, teach? are you dealin with a virgin here? :D01:02
Jowiubu_on_epia: i also did not specify any video ram in my file.01:03
ejofeeMabus06: he's quite much of a newbye01:03
ejofeeMabus06: so... yes01:03
ejofeeMabus06 :)01:03
Mabus06ubuntu is easy for newbies, talavera. Trust me, I am one.01:03
talaveraejofee: it aks me for the CD01:03
talaveraejofee: it's normal01:04
irvintalavera, yes if you still have it enabled01:04
ejofeeMabus06: it all depends on which kind of expectancies newbyes have, too01:04
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ejofeetalavera: it shouldn't... you don't have the cd, i suppose; right?01:05
thegladiatortRSS, its working fine with me01:05
linxwats the command to completely remove apache01:05
thegladiatortRSS, i installed from bin file01:05
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ejofeeMabus06: many newbyes don't even know anything like apt-get actually is possible or feasible01:06
ubu_on_epiaJowi, i'll simply try ur xorg.conf (for a dumb run)... U did recompile ur Kernel from the plain vanilla 2.6.12 sources with the epia-patch applied?01:06
tRSSthegladiator: thanks for the input! much appreciated :)01:06
talaveraejofee: no i have it, don't worry01:06
thegladiatortRSS, welcome but i cant see the video though , hear sound only :)01:06
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thegladiatortRSS, working on it01:06
ejofeetalavera: have what?01:07
tRSSthegladiator: keep us updated if you make any progress!01:07
Jowiubu_on_epia: i use lcd monitor. use your own monitor section. it will fail otherwise probably. and yes, i wrote the wiki, so i recompiled with the patch from the vanilla.01:07
thegladiatoryep01:07
ubu_on_epiaOh, i see01:07
Jowiubu_on_epia: which epia board you got?01:07
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albackerthegladiator, hows ubuntu ? better than fc ? right ?!01:07
ubu_on_epiaM10k01:08
thegladiatordoes nyone know ehy the real player doesnt show the screen , yet play the audio01:08
thegladiatorexactly01:08
Jowiubu_on_epia: me too01:08
ejofeetalavera: (was focusing on something else, i got it you were talking about the cd)01:08
thegladiatormuch better albacker , simpler easier01:08
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thegladiatorthanks actually :D01:08
albacker:) im glad you like uit.01:08
albackerit *01:08
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talaveraejofee: yes01:08
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Jowiubu_on_epia: did x start before with the via driver?01:08
ejofeetalavera: from synaptic... you can install whatever you want...01:09
ubu_on_epiaOk, I'll be back in a minute.... trying ur xorg.conf (monitor section doesn#t matter, is a CRT anyway which does 60Hz :-))01:09
ejofeetalavera: synaptic is somthing like "add / remove programs" from windows, only much more advanced01:09
Jowiubu_on_epia: but lcd does not need horizsync. your monitor do.01:10
talaveraejofee: that's really good01:10
ejofeetalavera: what is your favourite browser01:10
talaveraejofee: i want to ask u sth01:10
talaveraejofee: are u a user of linux or sth else?01:10
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ejofeetalavera: yes, it's very good... what were you thinking?: microsoft actually has reasons to fear gnu/linux :)01:11
ubu_on_epiaJowi, thx for the hint, I'll edit that01:11
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ejofeetalavera: yes, i "use" gnu/linux... why?01:11
albackertalavera, if he is in ubuntu hes a linux user ? right..01:11
tRSSthegladiator: I got realplayer10 working by using the deb file... checking video and audio now01:11
talaveraejofee: i don't know, i think u know too much about it01:12
albackerthegladiator, dont you have realplayer in apt-get ? why are you trying to get .bins and .debs ?01:12
ejofeetalavera: that's nothing :)01:13
ejofeetalavera: (i mean it... you'll soon understand why i say this)01:13
elvisdhi is possible to disable power saving features on a laptop? I.ex. running always with processor at best speed and maybe disable the disk saving feat...01:13
thegladiatoralbacker, i have many bins with me01:14
thegladiatoractually , i didnt want to download over and over01:14
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thegladiatortRSS, please give me the feed back01:14
thegladiatorif ir works i guess the bin installation has some problem01:14
irvinalbacker, realplayer8 is in multiverse, they want realplayer1001:14
albackerthegladiator, downloadin some megabytes is nothing, unless you use dialup [just like me :( ] 01:14
Blue-Steelno fluxbox when apt-cache search fluxbox ?01:15
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albackerirvin, aha ok..01:15
thegladiatoralbacker, mine is limited data download as well01:15
talaveraejofee: are u working now?01:15
albackerBlue-Steel, get the .deb from fluxbox webpage.01:15
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Blue-Steelhumm.. and whats the package to install kde ?01:15
ejofeetalavera: not really, no. you need some more help?01:15
thegladiatoranyways once i installed real player altthough the video display doesnt work the codecs are exported to other players as well01:16
ejofeetalavera: i can work in parallel, anyway01:16
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albackerBlue-Steel, are you trying to install fluxnox or kde ?01:16
Blue-Steeli was going for flux01:16
Blue-Steelbut i want both01:16
Blue-Steelor at least kde01:16
irvinBlue-Steel, sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop01:17
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albackerBlue-Steel,  : kdesktop - miscellaneous binaries and files for the KDE desktop01:17
Blue-Steelkdesktop or kunbuntu ?01:18
albackerBlue-Steel, id suggest keeping gnome, since im a gnome fan.01:18
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albackerkubuntu-desktop or kdesktop01:18
irvinBlue-Steel, fluxbox is also in universe, sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:18
Blue-Steelwhich one is the full package ? kdesktop or kubuntu01:18
talaveraejofee: yes u know other programs01:19
albackerFilename: pool/universe/f/fluxbox/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb01:19
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ejofeetalavera: depends on what you want to do01:19
albackertheres the 0.9.13 or 14 out.. so go to fluxbox.org01:19
talaveraejofee: as PPP programs01:19
irvinBlue-Steel, its kubuntu-desktop01:19
talaveraejofee: as edonkey in windows01:19
ejofeetalavera: amule01:20
JowiBlue-Steel: i think kubuntu-desktop installs kde + all ubuntu related settings and kde progs. kde should only install the wm.01:20
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ejofeeJowi: btw, do you know anything better than amule for gnu/linux?01:21
Jowiejofee: i don't use any mule progs at all01:22
Jowino time :)01:22
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albackeromg, amsn freezed !01:22
ejofeetalavera: do you like winamp?01:23
Jowialbacker: that's disaster! ;)01:23
talaveraejofee: i have to do the same thing as for gaim01:23
ejofeetalavera: it's equivalent here is xmms01:23
irvinejofee, you have xmms for that01:23
ejofeetalavera: no, you install only amule01:23
elvisdhas some experience with laptop power saving feats?01:23
albackerJowi, ill have to use gaim than :)01:23
ejofeeirvin: i know, i was telling this to talavera (thanks anyway) :)01:23
irvini see01:24
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albackeri like beep-media-player too, its very similar to xmms, bu i like it most :D01:25
ejofeetalavera: installing everything that was beginning with gaim was an *exception*. usually you need to install only one (if it needs anything else, it installs it automatically anyway)01:25
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mfinchI have recently added another Linux distro to a different partition.  Ubuntu will find "other" distros on install.  How/what commands do I need to get grub to scan for other distros after bootin into Ubuntu?  Should update-grub take care of this for me?01:25
albackerif you boot into ubuntu you dont have to use grub, so you edit /etc/mtab !01:26
xirtushey, ogle is really not working for me, anyone know of a good dvd player that support menus?01:26
talaveraejofee: so what i did with gaim, it was an exception01:26
albackermfinch,01:26
albackermfinch, and fstab01:26
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ejofeetalavera: yes, absolutely01:26
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elvisdHow to disable/personalize power saving features on Laptops?01:27
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ubu_on_epiare01:27
ejofeetalavera: usually you just install one application (with it's automatically-selected dependencies, if there is any)01:27
Jowiubu_on_epia: worked?01:28
mfinchalbacker: so if my other partitons are not configured in /etc/fstab they will be ignored01:28
ubu_on_epia.... hmmm... no...01:28
talaveraejofee: u will stay here much more time01:28
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talaveraejofee: because maybe i 'll have more problems latter01:28
Jowiubu_on_epia: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:28
ejofeetalavera: with interruptions, yes01:28
ubu_on_epiaso X does not crash, it just delivers no video.... i can hear the login-sound, but the screen stays dark01:28
ubu_on_epiagot a log for U01:29
irvinmfinch, you want grub to boot another distro?01:29
Jowiubu_on_epia: brilliant01:29
ejofeetalavera: however, many people here are nice and willing to help :)01:29
talaveraejofee: so i could ask u for your msn and we can talk by messenger?01:29
ejofeetalavera: we also help each other01:29
albackermfinch, your partition should be something like /dev/hdaX [where X is a number] , you mount the partition to some directory; as root => mkdir /mnt/partition; mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/partition [change X to the partition number] ; you can use this comand in fstab !! so its don automatically when ubuntu boots.01:29
ejofeetalavera: why not. however, i strongly prefer yahoo.01:29
talaveraejofee: maybe at the moment my help isn't so needed01:30
ejofeetalavera: it sends offline messages (plus other features)01:30
ejofeetalavera: maybe not. but soon it will be.01:30
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ejofeetalavera :)01:30
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lfopHi, is there any guide how to compile, build and install from source? / From .gz, bz2. Thanks.01:31
talaveraejofee: anyway i can give mine: talaverant22@hotmail.com01:31
ejofeelfop: usually, most packages come with a specific howto. i don't think you need a general how to on this issue, really.01:31
ubu_on_epiaJowi, here's the X-log:01:31
albackermfinch, si first you should know whats your partitions name in /dev directory, and than mount it.. or just add the automountin-line into fstab. that should be all..01:31
ubu_on_epiahttp://pastebin.com/46513401:31
ejofeetalavera: ok, thanks01:32
irvinlfop, there's usually an INSTALL or README instruction included in a source package01:32
lfopok01:32
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albackerlfop, most of the times its ./configure; make; as root : make install, and thats done.. but it depends. So reading the README is the best chooice.01:33
mfinchirvin, albacker: I am explaining something wrong.  During Ubuntu install grub "probed" for other Linux distros (/dev/hda1).  Just added another distro to /dev/hda6 and want grub to "probe" again.  Thoughts?01:33
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lfopthanks guys.01:34
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irvinmfinch, try running update-grub again...01:34
albackermfinch, you want to see in grub menu ;; the other distro ? right ?01:34
albackerif you want to edit grub-boot-menu than you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ! hope ive understood you now.01:35
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Jowiubu_on_epia: first things first: drm not found. hang on, will check my kernel for that option. 2nd: your monitor values are off (vrefresh and hsync are wrong). will check drm first though.01:36
ubu_on_epiathx, will hang on01:36
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rockzi have a little problem... i compile my program and when i run (f3) my program it dont run... a message appear: anyone runable for this file (translate portuguese to english)01:40
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Jowiubu_on_epia: DRM is here (seems like you forgot that vital part. make gconfig in the linux-source-epia dir) Character devices -> Direct Rendering Manager -> Via unichrome video cards DRM_VIA01:41
ubu_on_epiaJowi, let me check that (doing menuconfig, btw)01:42
Jowiubu_on_epia: also be sure you have /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) AGP -> VIA chipset support AGP_VIA01:42
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Jowiubu_on_epia: alright, also make sure it is not a module. should be compiled into the kernel itself01:42
xirtusok so i have the 64bit build of ubuntu and i need a compatible dvd player. any suggestions?01:42
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raidhi all, could some1 help me with permissions problem. I'm having troubles with my usb flash disks, very time i try to change or to modify a file it stops me because ubuntu mounts it as "read-only". I need to change permanently my permissions to "/media" as to be able to use and modify all files taht are mounted in it... same is for my home dir where some files dont have permissions (i can modify them with left click in home... but its ann01:43
raidoying)... any1???01:43
irvinraid does your usb disk have a write-protect switch?01:44
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raidirvin, no... :P not that noob :P:P01:45
raidirvin, having the same trouble with usb external HD01:45
Mabus06rule of troubleshooting: easiest solutions first01:45
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irvinhmm01:45
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raidany ideas?01:48
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learnfromscratchi had installed lftp ... but when i connect it says Login failed: 550 SSL/TLS required on the control channel ...01:48
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raidi cant write on my external HD or flashdisk, so i was wondering if i could just change permanently permissions to /media01:48
rockzi have a little problem... i compile my program and when i run (f3) my program dont run... a message appear: anyone runable for this file (translate portuguese to english)01:48
ubu_on_epiaJowi, so agppart, direct rendering manager, and via unichrome are compiled in... 8no module)01:49
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debussy?01:50
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irvinraid, what's the current permission of /media?01:50
Jowiubu_on_epia: yep, that's it.01:50
Knight_Lordrockz what?01:51
debussywhat?01:51
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Jowiubu_on_epia: and in agpgart there is a "Via chipset support" as well01:51
rockzmy C program dont run01:51
ubu_on_epiaI'm pretty sure i double checked the kernel config.... it takes ages to compile :-001:51
rockzi compile the program... ok01:51
Knight_Lordrockz can you paste the original message01:51
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Knight_Lordrockz (even if it's in portuguese)01:52
Jowiubu_on_epia: will be quicker this time to compile. depends on how many modules you have. the more modules, the longer time it will take01:52
ubu_on_epiaJowi, via-agp support is compiled in01:52
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rockzin portuguese: Nenhum executvel para este arquivo.01:52
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Knight_Lordrockz open a shell and check the permissions of the file01:52
rockzok01:52
ubu_on_epiarockz, try chmod +x on that file01:53
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Knight_Lordrockz you can also check with "file <filaname>" to see what kind of file it is01:53
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Jowiubu_on_epia: very good. then you MUST check your monitor ranges. they are way off, probably that's why you don't get a picture but hear a sound. fix that before you compile.01:53
Blue-Steelhow do i add  the kdm scritp to boot ? or once we install  kde its auto-done ?01:53
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raidirvin, its 75501:54
Jowiubu_on_epia: "sudo ddcprobe" should give you plenty of info01:54
ubu_on_epiaJowi, I think my kernel is fine so far... will do another dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with conservative settings. be back in a minute01:54
raidirvin, i dont have write permissions on group and others01:54
rockzif i create a new program it dont run too01:55
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irvinraid, that's the same as mine01:56
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irvinraid, if you know the device name of the external disks you can try hardcoding it to /etc/fstab and mount it on your home folder01:57
irvinlike /home/raid/external01:57
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raidirvin, i tried to format also my external disks with gparted, but i dont have permissions...01:57
raidirvin, ok... but i'm gonna have to do it every time for every external disk i mount?01:57
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irvinumm.. automounting of usb disks should work in breezy01:58
albackeryes you have to do it, unless you edit fstab01:58
albacker/etc/fstab01:58
irvinand mount -a later01:59
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raidalbacker, i'm too noob to do that yet01:59
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raidalbacker, dont know how, i'm still learning how to mount with terminal... :((02:00
irvinraid, can you do a test for us?02:00
raidirvin, of course02:00
irvinraid, can you insert your usb disk and try pasting what mount says02:00
raidok02:00
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raidwai, i'll get it02:01
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albackerraid, mount /dev/devicename mountpoint     where mountpoint is a dir02:01
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TroggehA quick question for safety: Does the ubuntu installer check an existing boot-partition I previously declared to be /boot for an existing grub before overwriting and killing my existing grub-config ?02:02
talaverai have download a file and i don't know where is the file?02:02
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irvintalavera, maybe on your desktop02:02
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albackertalavera, what did you downloaded it with ?02:03
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albackerdesktop, homedir or /temp02:03
talaveraamule02:03
albackerit might be on /temp my firefox downloads files there :)02:03
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albackerthere should be something like ~/.amule02:03
mumujust installed. having major problems...02:03
albacker /home/talavera/.amule02:03
albackertry that, and see if theres any download directory.02:04
ejofeewhat i love about ubuntu is that it doesn't have anything like a comercial version, with us using a shitty "community version" (like some bunch of... testers, as mandriva, redhat, suse, etc. make their community members feel like), while it still compares to them in quality. i simply feel respected in this community.02:04
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raidirvin, devicename is what i see in "computer"02:04
raidirvin, ???02:04
mumudoes anyone know why sudo wouldn't work? no error message. sudo just doesn't work.02:04
irvinraid, can you open a Terminal for us?02:04
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Jowimumu: exactly what do you type?02:05
Knight_Lordmumu it there's not error message, then it works ;-)02:05
raidirvin, did so... how do i see my devicename?02:05
irvinApplications -> Accessories -> Terminal02:05
mumusay, sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:05
mumunothing happens.02:05
odati know this is ubuntu which i use daily and i'm using right now but can anyone give me an honest opinion of which is faster gnome or kde02:05
albackerraid, device name is something like hda1, hda2, hda3 or sda1, sda2, sda3...02:05
irvinraid, what does mount say?02:05
ejofee... if you feel what i mean :)02:05
Knight_Lordmumu what about sudo ls?02:05
TroggehI'm terribly scared of grub-installation messing up my existing bootloader.config02:05
raid/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)02:06
raidproc on /proc type proc (rw)02:06
raidsysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)02:06
raiddevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)02:06
raidtmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)02:06
raidusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)02:06
raidtmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)02:06
raidtmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)02:06
raidnone on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)02:06
mumusudo ls negative. sudo su negative. sudo anything negative.02:06
Mabus06no pastes02:06
alambahi all...anyone here tried out LTSP on ubuntu?02:06
Mabus06!paste02:06
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:06
raidmabus06, sorry02:06
talaverai haven't such file02:06
irvinyes raid, please use the pastebin02:06
Mabus06raid, just telling you before some grumpy oldbie yells02:06
mustard5:)02:06
mumui just created this user doing `adduser mumu`. maybe that doesn't work?02:06
Mabus06oh, hey there mustard502:06
mustard5hey Mabus06 :)02:06
Jowimumu: you must add the "admin" group to the user02:07
raidwill keep in mind, nobody told me so far :P02:07
mumujowi: tks02:07
irvinraid, i should have sorry02:07
raidirvin, np... "ignorantia lex non excusat" :D02:07
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raidirvin, my bad... anyway... going back to my prob... what should i do now ?02:08
irvinraid, is the device present in /media ?02:08
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albackerCYA ALL02:09
Jowicu albacker02:09
irvinbye albacker02:09
raidno, i unmounted it02:09
irvin:-(02:10
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raidremounting, sorry02:10
mustard5hehe02:10
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irvinit appears that the device is automounted with rw access, there should be an icon on the desktop02:11
raidok, should i repaste you mount output?02:11
raidirvin, there is02:11
knubbeanyone who can help me to enable gd in php on ubuntu?02:11
irvinraid, can you double-click on it any try creating a folder?02:12
LeeJunFanis the gcc in ubuntu multiarch? ie, there isn't a special one to install for compiling 386 binaries on a x86_64 system?02:12
raidirvin, thats not my problm... i can use my flash disks02:12
raidirvin, i cant for xample format them with gparted or so02:13
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raidirvin, and having problems with my external hd, it all seems ok when i write and all but afetr i unmount and when i try to use it with other pc i find nothign in it... as if it hadnt writtn everything...02:13
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Jowiraid: if the disk/partition is locked in gparted you have to unmount it first. if it is not locked and nothing seem to happen after you apply the changes, try to reboot the pc (the partition table might have been changed)02:15
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raidirvin, if i unmount it it disappears from gparted list of devices02:16
irvinraid, of course it should02:16
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Jowiraid: then you should add it to fstab, but add the option "noauto"02:16
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Jowiraid, example: /dev/hda1      /media/windows  vfat    defaults,user,noauto,umask=000  0       002:17
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bradley_any tips on getting java to work with firefox?02:18
Jowi!java02:18
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:18
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raidirvin, ok, so what i'm i doing... i'm disabling the automatic mounting of that volume?02:18
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Jowithere you go bradley_ , the restrictedformats page got the plugin covered as well02:18
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_sebastianHi I need help.  I have set up Apache,  PHP, and MySQL to wrok on my Ubuntu.  and now I am trying to make it so people can put in my ip address in there browser and connect to my web server.   I have tryed to  open up the ports on my router.  and stuff.    ,but nope when I put my own ip address in.  I ccannot connect to it02:19
korhalfapache isnt up.02:20
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ubu_on_epiare02:20
_sebastianwhat?02:20
bradley_thanks!02:20
Jowiubu_on_epia: update please02:20
korhalf_sebastian, try typing localhost in the address bar, if that doesnt work, restart apache with sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart02:20
ubu_on_epiatried another monitor (better one)02:20
ubu_on_epiaso it's not a sync prob02:20
_sebastianyes Apache is running02:20
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korhalfremember to open port 8002:20
_sebastiani'll try that korhalf and I tryed to open port 8002:21
korhalfand it maybe possible that your isp doesnt allow you to use port 80 or something02:21
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ubu_on_epiathe monitor would tell me, if the video is out of sync. But there's just no video output with the via xmodule02:21
lfopis firefox released under some kind of free software license?02:21
mjrlfop, yes, it is02:21
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lfophow come there is no source to download02:22
_sebastianyes localhost works02:22
mjryes, there is02:22
lfopoh02:22
lfopk02:22
ubu_on_epiadri and stuff is loaded and seems to work, according to the logs....02:22
ubu_on_epia.... hmmm... so why is there no (/&$-ing video :-(02:23
_sebastianwell I opended up a port in my routher configuration page.  a efw weeks or more ago.  so I could host my game.  I just put the port in the special application stuff.  and it worked.  I treyd the same thing with 80  for APpache, but nnoope that won't do it02:23
lfopubu_on_epia, what is your problem?02:23
Jowiubu_on_epia: i tell you. the monitor values are whack. what is your monitor model and number?02:23
Jowilfop: customer epia kernel with dri.02:24
_sebastianI was reading some webpages.  and something about how Apache can be set up to use a virtual server or something?02:24
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Jowicustomer = custom02:24
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redguy||work_sebastian: the best advice you can get is to read more of these webpages you were talking about02:25
Jowiubu_on_epia: paste me your new xorg.conf02:25
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ubu_on_epiaOne is an el cheapo (Scott 14-inch TE518B) which i just use for setting up the boxes, and i tried my big Fujitsu-Siemens M2102 21 inch lately02:26
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Jowiubu_on_epia: which one you want to use?02:26
_sebastianor have I opended up port 80 wrong in my routher configuration?  Trigger Port 80  Public Port 80  Public Type TCP Enabled Tick.  and that's a SMC Networks router by the way02:26
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ubu_on_epiaNone of them.... it's going to be a 15 inch TFT, but it's not here at the moment02:27
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jonty34 Hello im new to linux, I have a network setup with a windows pc and a linux pc. How would i run a windows program from the windows machine on my linux pc using Wine over the network? Is there any other programs i could use?02:28
ejofeeis it feasible to port yast to ubuntu?02:28
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guest_hi02:28
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guest_how do i shut off autocompletion in openoffice2?02:28
Goshawki've problem play a dvd... this is the error reported by totem: Could not read title information for DVD.02:29
Jowiubu_on_epia: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. when selecting the monitor untick all values except 1024x768 (just to make sure). select the via driver and dri. after your done, give me the xorg.conf and i check it out.02:29
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redguy||workejofee: i've heard that some people are trying to port yast to debian02:30
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ubu_on_epiaHere's my current xorg.conf (except that I changed the driver back to vesa...)02:30
ubu_on_epiahttp://pastebin.com/46518602:30
ejofeeguest_: tools (menu entry) / autocorrect (menu entry) / word completion (tab)02:30
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ejofeeguest_: is this what you were looking for?02:31
ejofeeredguy||work: is it serious a project?02:31
guest_oh, of couse ejofee02:31
guest_thank you a lot man : )02:31
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ejofeeguest_: anytime! :)02:31
guest_See you around :) )02:31
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redguy||workejofee: http://yast4debian.alioth.debian.org/02:32
ejofeeredguy||work: thank you02:32
Jowiubu_on_epia: the horiz values are definetley wrong.02:32
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gnomefreakit should be safe to go into grub/menu.lst and just change the name of one of the operating systems right?02:32
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ejofeehey, anybody have any idea what happened to #gentoo? why has it disappeared from freenode just like that?02:32
Jowiubu_on_epia: sudo ddcprobe to check02:32
ejofee(and then reappeared)02:33
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ubu_on_epiaJowi, yes, I'll paste the output of ddcprobe into the xorg.conf...02:34
Jowiubu_on_epia: k02:34
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ubu_on_epiahttp://pastebin.com/465189 is the ddc-probe-output for the currently connected el-cheapo02:35
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Goshawkwhat about this error reading a dvd? libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.02:37
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Jowiubu_on_epia: looks ok. did you run the via driver successfully before doing the wiki?02:39
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stef_ubu_epiaJowi: it's me, ubu_on_epia, from my big box...02:41
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Jowistef_ubu_epia: k. did you get my last message?02:42
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stef_ubu_epiaNo, was fumbling on the xorg.conf02:42
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linuX|BowlingXhi02:42
geloeschthow can i check, which version of ndiswrapper is included in ubuntu 5.10?02:43
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stef_ubu_epiaOk, where do you think is the problem: 1.) kernel miscompiled 2.) xorg.conf 3.) drivers buggy?02:43
Jowistef_ubu_epia: ddcprobe look good. did the via driver work before you compiled the epia kernel from the wiki?02:43
linuX|BowlingXiam new @ubuntu and i have a small question :D, whats about the root account? I never give a password, how can i join my root Account after a fresh installation?02:43
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gnomefreakpackages.ubuntu.com has a list of all packages for all distros of ubuntu02:43
Amaranth!tell linuX|BowlingX about sudo02:44
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stef_ubu_epiaJowi: no, never... the only time the via driver was working was with an old Knoppix CD with Xfree 4.3... never got it to work with xorg02:44
stef_ubu_epiabut the via driver on xfree did only 640x48002:45
Jowistef_ubu_epia: are you using a standard breezy install?02:45
gnomefreaksafe to change name of os in grub but keep boot options and parameters the same?02:45
linuX|BowlingXk, thanks ;)02:45
stef_ubu_epiayup, freshly installed and untweaked (except dist-upgrade)02:45
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DeathWatchwenas02:47
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DeathWatchalguien vivo por ahi?02:47
Jowistef_ubu_epia: hmmm. my via driver worked fine in 2d on a fresh install.02:47
stef_ubu_epiaMaybe i should try the binary drivers from viaarena (as told in epiawiki.org)02:47
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stef_ubu_epiaJowi, is there a way u could send me your kernel image? Would a test help at all?02:48
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Jowistef_ubu_epia: try to install one of the linux-restricted-modules as well. i will put up all the files on my webserver. hang02:49
lahDdahhi all.. newbie ubuntu user.. it rocks02:50
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linkdyay02:51
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u|qoswhy can't i use log_progress_msg? always "command not found" ... i included ". /lib/lsb/init-functions" ... does somebody know?02:52
Jowistef_ubu_epia: not sure the image will do you much good since I probably have other modules. but take it if you wish. i also put my kernel .config file. cp it to your sourcedir and make it, and don't forget to install the modules.02:52
Jowistef_ubu_epia: http://underlig.homelinux.org02:52
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k31thwatsup02:53
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jonois there a way to turn off usplash on boot?02:54
stef_ubu_epiaJowi: thx so far... for diagnostic purposes they will help me, even if they don't work as a working kernel02:54
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Jowistef_ubu_epia: wierd. maybe it's worth installing fresh and see if via driver work in xorg for you in pure 2d.02:54
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Jowistef_ubu_epia: we have the same board (haven't we? running the Nehemia cpu?)02:55
stef_ubu_epiajang on, got to switch over to the epia-box02:55
seliniumhi all, i am doing a remote upgrade on a PC, it appaers to have locked up on a fontconfig question.  What is my best option now?02:55
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seliniumhi thoreauputic :)02:56
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thoreauputichi selinium :)02:56
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drcodehi all02:57
drcodehow I can setupup socks 5 in linux?02:57
drcodeany idea?02:57
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esjare there any good instructions on how to take an existing debian package and convert it to ubuntu?02:58
indypendesomeone know something like kuake for GNOME?02:58
jdubindypende: describe it02:58
esjdrcode: first, use the basic install process even to you by the .deb package from the ubuntu repository02:58
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drcodeI know02:59
esjthen look look for general socks5 instructions and use that to modify the baseline configuration02:59
drcodebut socks 5 , any one know good server on l inux02:59
indypendejdub, kuake.. pressing F12 on the desltop a terminal descend from the top of the screen...02:59
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Jowi!info kuake02:59
DuXiahi02:59
ubotukuake: (Console which looks like Quake game console), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.3-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 248 kB02:59
esjI wish I could give you more specifics, but it's been almost a decade since I've seen any call for that particular package02:59
DuXiaanyone's free? i need some help02:59
Jowihehe, cool03:00
redguy||work!ask03:00
jdubindypende: ah, that's right - not that i know of, though you could hook it kuake up in gnome, i'm sure03:00
esjdon't we all (need some help)03:00
gnomefreakDuXia, ask in the room if someone knows they will answer03:00
redguy||workdarn03:00
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DuXiahow do i install a mail server?03:00
jdubindypende: wouldn't be a tough hack to do the same thing with gnome/vte03:00
DuXiai tried postfix + courier but failed03:00
esjDuXia03:00
DuXianow i am trying hula project03:01
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indypendejdub, i will try find it on google03:01
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DuXiabut cannot seem to send mail to outside world03:01
esjDuXia: is not a the project but I think you want with the wrong components03:01
indypendejdub, my question it's only for a fast and sure reply!03:01
esjpostfix is fine but courier is way too complicated for most people03:01
indypendethanks03:01
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ubu_on_epiaJowi, thx, got the config and image. /lib/modules folder 2.6.12.3-epia is correct?03:01
esjI would recommend postfix and dovecot03:01
DuXiawhen i install postfix, i can send email thru php mail function03:01
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DuXiabut i cannot test the connection using telnet03:02
DuXiaany idea why? i got stuck at the mail from: command03:02
esjthe port 25 connection?03:02
DuXiayup.. telnet localhost 2503:02
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DuXiathen when i type mail from:, the entire screen froze03:02
DuXiacannot even exit03:02
Jowiubu_on_epia: huh? /lib/modules what?03:03
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esjI don't think the screen froze.  I think what happened was the system was probably waiting for DNS resolution03:03
DuXiaoh.. so how shld i resolve it?03:03
Jowiubu_on_epia: yes, correct03:03
esjif you had typed the telnet escape sequence, you would have returned back to the command prompt03:03
esjfirst test would be to make sure DNS is working properly both internally and externally03:04
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DuXiawhat is the escape sequence for telnet?03:04
esjhost is the first level command03:04
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thegladiatorhi03:04
ubu_on_epiaThe modules-folder which goes with this bzImage .. mine is 2.6.12.3-epia... I can#t boot ur image if I don't have the proper modules-folder installed, of course03:04
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DuXiaand how to test my DNS?03:04
esjyou are told the escape sequence when you first type telnet commands03:04
redguy|workDuXia: AFAIR ctrl-[03:04
thegladiatori am getting a error03:04
thegladiatori cant mount cd rooms03:04
thegladiatorError: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)03:04
DuXiaoh ok.. i didnt notice it03:04
thegladiatori could mount it a while back03:05
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Jowiubu_on_epia: the bzImage is your /vmlinuz file03:05
DuXiaso how do i test my DNS?03:05
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esjtesting DNS host, dig are good options03:05
ubu_on_epiai know,03:05
redguy|worka cd room?03:05
esjtest addresses both internal and external03:05
thegladiatoryes cd rom03:05
thegladiatorsorry03:05
ubu_on_epiaok, let me put it in place and have a test drive...03:05
DuXiawat is the command to use?03:05
esjhost or dig03:05
esjas in host Google.com03:06
thegladiatorthe cd used to work when i installed the machine03:06
DuXiau mean both are valid tools?03:06
esjor dig yahoo.com03:06
thegladiatorthe error now i get is Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)03:06
Jowiubu_on_epia: the .config goes to your source dir. if you followed the wiki it should be in /home/user/linux-2.6.12-epia/linux-2.6.1203:06
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esjyes, both are valid tools.  host is simple, dig is complicated03:06
K-RichCan anyone tell me the kernel version on a fresh breezy install?03:06
gnomefreak2.6.9 i think03:06
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DuXiaso that means if i can resolve using host, then my DNS is working?03:07
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drazqhi all! :)03:07
thegladiatorcan someone help me with mounting a cd rom ?03:07
jdubK-Rich: 2.6.1203:07
thegladiatorits not mounting03:07
gnomefreakjdub,  no it isnt03:07
thegladiatorError: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)03:07
K-Richcan't be 2.6.903:07
momohello again friendly helper guys03:07
Jowiubu_on_epia: or actually /home/user/epia-kernel/linux-2.6.1203:07
gnomefreak2.6.10 is the upgraded kernel version for breezy03:07
jdubgnomefreak: that's hoary03:07
esjyes, if you can resolve using host, your DNS is working03:07
DuXiaif cannot, wat is the problem?03:08
nickrudgnomefreak, 2.6.12-10 you mean03:08
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DuXiais it becoz my DNS servers are not configured properly?03:08
thegladiatorny experts in cd rom mounting ?03:08
thegladiatorwhat is the cause of this error ?03:08
momoi need help changing my screen resolution. the gui applet only offers 680x480@60hz. I've browsed by xorg.conf file but haven't found a problem.03:08
esjnot sure.  I would first start by testing from end to addresses on the machine03:08
thegladiatorError: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null) ?03:08
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Jowi!tell momo about fixresolution03:08
gnomefreakok sorry kernel version for breezy freash is 2.6.12-903:08
esjthen I would start testing from addresses on the machine to addresses external to the machine03:08
thegladiatormomo > try gnome-display-properties03:08
williihi all03:08
Jowi!tell momo about resolution03:09
Jowiah03:09
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K-Richthanks03:09
thegladiatorJowi, do you know why cd rom is not mounting?03:09
augustinhello03:09
esjthat's about where I would go at this point03:09
williiI have lokking for a ssh-server howto for unbuntu -breezy badger03:09
DuXiaso if i cannot resolve, then how do i remedy the problem?03:09
Jowithegladiator: what error you get?03:09
momoi'm afraid the applet only offers 640x480. this must be  amistake03:09
thegladiatorJowi, Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)03:09
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esjif you cannot get to resolve, I would look at the settings in /etc/resolv.conf03:09
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thegladiatorJowi, my wild is guess is it has to do with HAL03:09
augustinanyone knows how i can force a Java program to use a character set different from the default system one ? i want it to launch using the Western one instead of UTF-803:09
esjmake sure they point to valid name servers.03:09
Jowithegladiator: hal error?03:09
stef_ubu_epiaJowi: Ok, I've set up ur kernel, and changed the xmodule back to via... x-ing fingers for a reboot03:09
thegladiatorJowi, when i sometimes log in as root i get some hal error03:10
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esjIf you are using DHCP, you are probably getting valid name servers but you never can tell03:10
Jowithegladiator: no idea03:10
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thegladiatorJowi, not sure Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)03:10
ThePyromaniachey, how do you do remote desktoping? the link it gives just says localhost and stuff03:10
esjby the way, people may tell you to use a static IP address for servers but if you use DHCP with allocations bound to your Mac address, it's just as good and many times better03:11
DuXiamy first dns server is the ip address of my router.. is it correct? or shld i use the dns server provided by my isp?03:11
Jowistef_ubu_epia: if i were you, you should copy the .config, make, sudo make modules_install and sudo cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /vmlinuz03:11
esjunless your router is also a DNS proxy (such as ipcop), that's a problem03:11
redguy||workDuXia: that depends if you have a DNS server in your router03:12
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drazqWireless problem: I've installed ndiswrapper and the winxp drivers for my usb wireless dongle (sys & inf). but when I do an "iwconfig" I don't see wlan0 there .. just eth0 etc. with "no wireless extensions." .. anyone know what the problem might be?03:12
esjwhat type of router do you have?03:12
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DuXiaspeedtouch03:12
DuXiamodel i think is 57003:12
esjisn't that a usb adsl router?03:13
redguy||worksin't that an adsl modem?03:13
hmpedersenWindows just killed itself on my computer..03:13
webwolf_27hmpedersen, good riddens03:13
DuXiathat's an adsl modem.. but i am connected to it using ethernet cable03:14
mustard5hmpedersen, maybe it was lonely :)03:14
hmpedersenKept changing all my default settings.. So now, it made the decissions for me..03:14
hmpedersendecission*03:14
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DuXiai test the host command03:14
hmpedersenIts going out.. And ubuntu is going in!03:14
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DuXiait can resolve external address03:14
esjI found a web page http://www.speedtouch.com/pdf%5Cdatasheet570.pdf03:14
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mustard5drazq, not sure what the problem might be..but the work usb wireless dongle makes me wonder what the support for that hardware is like03:14
mustard5*words03:14
webwolf_27hmpedersen, thats typical m$, assume the user is an idiot03:14
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hmpedersenwebwolf, yeah..03:15
bushblowzwould anyone want to help me out03:15
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esjyes,.  It does do DHCP and DNS proxy03:15
hmpedersenHey.. Did anyone follow the latest discussion Linus joined in on?03:15
hmpedersenkde vs. gnome..03:15
bushblowzi dont like gnome03:15
deltronxfce :)03:15
deltron4 that is03:15
DuXiaok. so what may be the reason the mail from: froze?03:15
bushblowzwhy does my ubuntu 5.10 live cd not let me connect to the internet03:16
esjhow long did you give it?03:16
bushblowzbut it is recognizing my etho03:16
DuXiaard 1 min or so03:16
DuXiamaybe i try again now03:16
esjIf it's on the order of two minutes or less, wait a bit longer and see what message you get.03:16
DuXiaok!03:16
Seveashmpedersen, -EOLDNEWS03:16
stef_ubu_epiaJowi: Ok, ur bzImage won't boot on my box (probably no reiserfs-support compiled in).... but remarkably the framebuffer doesn't work (have to say vga=0)03:16
DuXiado u know abt hula project?03:16
esjalso, you may want to look at the mail error logs03:17
esjand see what the system complains about.03:17
hmpedersenSeveas, just made it to newz.dk 2 days ago..03:17
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esjwhat's the hula project?03:17
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stef_ubu_epiaJowi: Did u update the bios on ur box (I didi not, so far)03:17
drazqmustard5: it's an ASUS wireless thing .. apparently it should work on linux (according to the company). They even have drivers source code for linux .. but I did the ndiswrapper thing cause it seemed simpler..03:17
Jowistef_ubu_epia: yeah, i don't use framebuffer at all. no, no bios update.03:17
Jowistef_ubu_epia: and no reiser since i never use it03:18
esjis that the mail server from Novell?03:18
DuXiaanother mail server by novell03:18
DuXiayup03:18
DuXiai managed to install it03:18
DuXiabut i dunno how to send external mail from it03:18
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DuXiavery hard to configure03:18
esjI should probably check in with them because I have a very nice antispam system of developed and it needs more public exposure03:18
Jowistef_ubu_epia: make gconfig (or menuconfig) and add the stuff you need. maybe it's the framebuffer that make xorg fail!03:18
mustard5drazq, hmmm..might be better to try the drivers for linux03:18
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mustard5drazq, I'm going to have a look on the wiki and see what i can find there03:19
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stef_ubu_epia.... hmmm... ok, i'll investigate that further after a meal :-()  Many thanks up to here , we'll have a good addendum to the howto when i figured this one out03:19
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hmpedersenhmm.. i -am- going to miss photoshop, though..03:19
drazqmustard5: allright, thanks:)03:19
esjI should figure out how to organize it better so that it's easier to package03:19
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Jowistef_ubu_epia: yep, i bet. almost feel like installing breezy fresh and follow my own guide again. but i'm lazy now that it works for me03:20
DuXiahmm..03:20
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hmpedersenjowi, ur guide?03:20
tRSShey guys, can I export my pst to evolution?03:20
Jowihmpedersen: yeah03:20
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mustard5drazq, would that come under the category of wireless usb adaptor?03:20
hmpedersenjowi, link?03:21
DuXiaesj, if i wanna test telnet to port 25, wat host to use?03:21
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Jowihmpedersen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViaEpiaDriHowto03:21
stef_ubu_epiaJowi: that's basically what i did... an u did ur share of work in writing the howto, so it#s fair that someone else is debugging it03:21
hawariti installed postgresql with : apt-get install postgresql-8.0; after this psql -d template1 works, but psql -h localhost -d tempalte1 fails (psql: FATAL:  could not open file "/usr/local/pgsql/data/global/1262": No such file or directory)03:21
esjDuXia: you need to have your local host recognizable to DNS.  You can do this usually through your hosts file03:21
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tRSSguys can I export my exchange pst to evolution?03:21
hawarithow do i let it look at the correct data directory?03:21
esjanother alternative would be to define your internal network as a valid source for relaying e-mail03:22
drazqmustard5: I guess so :)03:22
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mustard5drazq, I've looked over this link...it has wireless usb adapters at the bottom, but I dont see your hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%2903:22
esjthen you can try sending mail externally.03:22
Jowistef_ubu_epia: tell you what, i have some free space on the disk. while you eat i will have a go to see. i still wont enable framebuffer though :)03:22
esjBut I seriously think you want to go internal host to an internal host for source and destination addresses.03:22
mustard5drazq, that doesnt mean its not supported..just not documented as supported :)03:22
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stef_ubu_epiaJowi: I will compile a new kernel with ur config (adapted to my needs) and have lunch then03:22
esjSo tasked to make sure that host can find you then try the mail path03:23
stef_ubu_epia...while gcc is having code-lunch03:23
DuXiaerr..03:23
mustard5drazq, perhaps if you get it going you might be inclined to document your journey in the wiki ;)03:23
Jowistef_ubu_epia: ok, logging off and trying to find my breezy disk. c u in an hour or two03:23
stef_ubu_epiaCu then :-)03:23
Jowibbl guys03:23
DuXiai have updated my hosts file03:23
DuXiaso which host to ehlo to?03:23
DuXiawhen i telnet?03:23
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esjwhat is the domain name of that host?03:24
mustard5drazq, there are a number of links on that page too, that might be useful to you.03:24
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esj(two-minute warning, I need to go fix breakfast and leave for an appointment)03:24
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drazqmustard5: Ok, I'll keep trying .. and I'll be sure to add info to the wiki if I get it working :)03:24
DuXiai am telneting myself03:24
DuXiatelnet localhost 2503:24
esjno.  That machine must have a domain name is associated with03:25
DuXiathen what do i put it the ehlo command?03:25
mustard5drazq, k :)03:25
esjso that it can know what address it sends out e-mail as03:25
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DuXiaya. my domain name is 3sedan.com03:25
esjfor example, my host is  mail.harvee.org03:25
DuXiaso i telnet 3sedan.com?03:25
esjtype this03:25
esjtelnet localhost 2503:26
esjehlo junk03:26
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DuXiathen?03:26
tRSShelllooooooo? can I import my exchange (outlook) pst to evolution?03:26
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redvelveti am using ubuntu on a laptop.  after the screensaver is on for awhile, the screen turns white.  Is there a way to get it to turn off?03:26
esjmail from: duxia@3sedan.com03:26
DuXiaoh it works!03:26
mustard5redvelvet, system>>preferences>>screensaver?03:27
esjrcpt to: someonelse@3sedan.com03:27
DuXiawat is junk?03:27
mustard5redvelvet, I'm assuming you mean turn the screensaver off03:27
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esjin the real world, junk is the domain name of the host contacting your mail server03:27
redvelvetmustard5, yes I wenr there, the settings appear to be correct.03:27
esjbut quite frankly, it doesn't matter.  The text is just junk03:28
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esjwhich is why I use junk03:28
redvelveti want the screen to turn off after like 20 minutes of screensaver03:28
redvelvetinstead it goes white, very bright03:28
esjanyway, my time is up.  But I need to leave but I think you are heading in the right direction03:28
DuXiaquit03:29
DuXiaoops.. wrong msg03:29
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hmpedersenwell.. Only a few more folders to backup, and windows goes poff.03:30
hmpedersenpoof*03:30
mustard5redvelvet, hmmmm k..not sure about how to do that03:30
redvelvetmustard5, I have the prefrenses set to blank after 20 minutes, but going blank doesnt really go blank... its strange if I go to file, go blank it workss03:30
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mustard5redvelvet, do laptops have any bios settings that control power to the screen?03:31
redvelvethmm, not really sure.  i just got this for the purpose of seeing how fun it would be to have linux on a laptop. haha03:31
hmpedersenMost laptops do..03:31
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redvelvetthanks guys, i  will check that out03:32
hmpedersenI disabled all the power management stuff.. Both in bios and in ubuntu..03:32
mustard5redvelvet, I dont have much idea myself..but I wondering whether that would create a clash of some kind03:32
k31thanyone use ispconfig ?03:32
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k31thwats better RSA or DSA ?03:33
redvelvetyeah, idk.  I think the bios controls are something like, if the power is unplugged (battery) then go to these settings03:33
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suerrahotelhello03:33
mustard5welcome suerrahotel03:33
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redvelvetwonder where the controls are for a laptop... say if I close the laptop, it hibernates... i dont want it to do that.03:34
suerrahotela/s/l03:34
LeeJunFanyay! almost have my mini ubuntu ready to put on compact flash for my WRAP board based access points!03:34
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mustard5suerrahotel, this is a technical support channel ;)03:34
redvelvethehe03:34
suerrahotelok03:34
suerrahotelwhy is that when you play xbox 360 it freez03:35
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soundraysuerrahotel, because it's not running ubuntu.03:35
suerrahotelok03:35
hmpedersensuerrahotel, i dont think thats the correct technical problems :)03:35
redvelvethahah03:35
LeeJunFanthat's a feature all microsoft products have.03:35
suerrahotelwell im a ps2 guy03:35
redvelvetits to give the users a break03:35
suerrahotelwell xbox 360 sucks03:36
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hmpedersensuerrahotel, M$ have identified the problem, and have offered to give all users with defect x360 a new console...03:36
mustard5suerrahotel, this is a support channel for linux..ubuntu linux in particular03:36
redvelveti dont think it will suck once the new HD DVD comes out in them03:36
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LeeJunFanredvelvet: no, it still will.03:37
redvelveti hope that this blue-ray hits it big03:37
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DuXiahi.. anyone knows whether dovecot can support virtual users?03:37
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redvelvetleejunfan, it might, I have never played one.  I just like racing games.03:37
hmpedersenredvelvet, i hope they make a light-version that doesnt draw the power of 5 computers and 2 flatscreen tv's at the same time..03:37
redvelvetHAHAHHA03:38
hmpedersenOnly then will i consider gettin one..03:38
redvelvetI have to iron my clothes and go to work, later fellas03:38
hmpedersenat the moment, my old xbox does what i need it to.. functioning as a good mediabox for tv, playin any video/music i need it to..03:39
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hmpedersenoh..03:39
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hmpedersenright.. done with the backup.. and have been so busy, ive forgotten to write breezy to a disc!03:39
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momothanks to the guy who sent me a link on the screen res problem. its fixed now!03:41
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mustard5momo well done :)03:42
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bazxhow do i make mplayer-plugin the default for embedded wmv's ?, totem tries to play them but fails ?03:46
funkyHatbazx, right click on one, go to properties, and click on the open with tab at the top03:46
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bazxfunkyHat, thanks, but is there a way i can do this from the desktop, ?03:47
funkyHatselect which program you want to open that file type with03:47
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Raskall-mobI am going to install my new server tonight. :) I wonder if all config files from my old hoary server will work in my new breezy server. Only time will tell. :)03:48
funkyHatI don't think so bazx (the way I described does do the  file TYPE not just that particular file btw)03:48
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soundrayThere are four different network environments where I use my laptop. What's the best way to autodetect and autoconfigure the settings according to the environment?03:49
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rudizwhat is the  right name for chapter FormatsRgistered in wiki03:49
rudiz?03:49
pappy-congratulations, you retarded fuckups managed to fuck up my laptop with a fucking ignorant warty->hoary->breezy update.  Back to Debian where the shit is called shit at least.03:49
Raskall-mobsoundray: install networkmanager03:49
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trappistwhat a nice fella.03:50
gnomefreaklol03:50
soundraypappy-, you're welcome.03:50
Raskall-mobsoundray: are all four environments wireless?03:50
mustard5hehehe03:50
soundrayRaskall, no, only one of them.03:50
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Raskall-mobsoundray: ok. so why do you need different setup for the three cabled locations?03:51
Raskall-mobsoundray: plug in, get dhcp-lease, start working.03:51
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mustard5rudiz, I'm not sure what you are after03:52
soundrayRaskall-mob, one is static IP (work), one DHCP (home) and one is no-net (on the train).03:52
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soundrayRaskall-mob, the fourth is wireless DHCP.03:52
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Raskall-mobsoundray: take a look at network manager (sudo apt-cache show network-manager). If that's the same as NetworkManager in Fedora, it's just what you're looking for I think03:53
Raskall-mobsoundray: it's in Universe, btw03:54
soundrayRaskall-mob, thanks, I just installed it.03:54
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Raskall-mobsoundray: the network setup tool in breezy actually has "locations" functionality, but I have no idea how to set it up03:55
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rudizimustard5, i need the wiki instructions for installing some apps03:55
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Raskall-mobI juste have different setups in /etc/network/interfaces that I comment/uncomment as needed and then does ifdown/ifup on the interface03:56
rudizmustard5, wiki.ubuntu.com/Formats....03:56
mochabyteis it possible to install a gtk theme engine without root acess?03:56
blitznlI want to build some app but get a "X11/extensions/Print.h : No such file or dir.." any idea which package provides this?03:56
trappistRaskall-mob: check out the 'whereami' package.03:56
mustard5rudiz, like restrictedformats?03:57
rudizy03:57
rudizthnx03:57
soundrayRaskall-mob, I've tried locations, it never seems to do what I expect. Also, it's not automatic.03:57
trappist*cough* whereami03:57
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soundraytrappist, thanks, I'll look at that too.03:58
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Raskall-mobsoundray: automatic is difficult to do, I think. Unless you can do something you can configure with grub. But then you'd have to boot every time you change locations03:58
shanonxhow do you force a program to quit? .. like if it is freezing up03:58
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blitznlsorry found it, libxp-dev03:59
mochabyteanyone know if its possible to install a gtk-engine w/o root?03:59
thoreauputicshanonx: open a terminal and type  killall <programname>03:59
linkdi dont think so04:00
linkdits a system change :/04:00
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mochabytedoh04:00
linkdshanonx: kill -9 PID04:00
shanonxthanks Thoreauputic04:00
Raskall-mobwhereami looks cool04:00
thoreauputicshanonx: no worries :)04:00
shanonxwhats that kill -9 do?04:00
linkdblah i didnt see thoreauputic's reply04:01
linkdit kills it properly04:01
thoreauputicshanonx: kill -9 is a "no second chance" kill ;)04:01
linkdsorta04:01
Raskall-mobsoundray: but why is the train no-net? ;) I am online 3 hours on the train every day04:01
linkdwhat he said ^04:01
thoreauputiclinkd: actually kill -9 is a last resort04:01
soundrayRaskall-mob, whenever I boot in a new location, I have trouble with gnome-session. So I login on a text console, run a script to exchange /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf... annoying.04:01
linkdthoreauputic: yes i know how signals work04:01
thoreauputiclinkd: OK :)04:01
jonoanyone know if there will be a 2.6.12 release for breezy?04:02
soundrayRaskall-mob, on-train-line?04:02
Raskall-mobsoundray: enter your hostname as an alias to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts04:02
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Raskall-mobsoundray: then your hostname is always resolvable04:02
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Ngjono: it's running 2.6.12 already04:03
=== xester good day
soundrayRaskall-mob, I just assumed that it was...04:03
Raskall-mobsoundray: and gnome-session will not have problems. I alternate between work (cabled), train (gprs/edge) and home (wlan) without any trouble with gnome-session04:03
jonoNg, oh shit, so it is04:03
Ngjono: slick ;)04:03
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jonoNg, trying to get a dvb card working, y'see04:03
soundrayRaskall-mob, how do you connect to GPRS, via a phone or PCMCIA card?04:04
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hmpedersenright.. ununtu is installing on my pc now :)04:04
hmpedersenFinally04:04
Raskall-mobsoundray: phone. bluetooth. So I just keep my phone in my pocket and dial.04:04
thoreauputicjono: loved your Jeff Waugh vid, mate ;)04:04
Ngjono: cool, which one?04:04
Raskall-mobsoundray: use the gnome-ppp for dialing.04:04
hmpedersenno more Bills on that computer :D04:04
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Ngjono: I just set up a hauppauge nova-t a couple of weeks ago, it rocks :)04:04
jonoNg, is that the connexant chip one?04:05
Ngjono: yes04:05
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jonoNg, woo! what did you do to get it working04:05
modkak ?04:06
modhow are you ?04:06
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modslt !04:06
soundrayRaskall-mob, back in a few minutes...04:07
Ngjono: well the kernel as-is seemed to include enough drivers to get it going, so I rebuilt vdr and xine packages from http://www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk/progs.sid.html04:07
abarbaccia_hey is there any command to execute from the command line that just maximizes a window - like if i have an instance of xchat running and i click the icon it just maximizes the window04:07
Ngjono: although you may be going for mythtv or something04:07
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Ngjono: snag the dvb-utils package, you can use the scan and dvbstream tools in that to get a channel list and try and grab an mpeg stream04:07
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jonoNg, I am using mythtv - how do I use scan to search for my signal?04:09
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chasnamhello, cout somebody help me with the following eclipse problem : I just installed ubuntu en the eclipse platform, and when I go to my Java preferences and I click on Compilers I get the following error....Plug-in org.eclipse.jdt.ui was unable to load class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.preferences.CompliancePreferencePage.04:09
chasnam... And I'm also unable to start a new Java Project.. Java version is now 1.4.2.. I just installed ubuntu today.. Any idea's ? Thanks in Advance04:09
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Ngjono: /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/README.scan04:10
Ng;)04:10
Ngbasically you just give it the file for the transmitter you're using and away it goes04:10
hmpedersenmythtv?04:10
stef_ubu_epia04:11
jonoNg, I get main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 19 No such device04:11
Ngjono: is there anything in /dev/dvb?04:11
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Ngmaybe you have a slightly different hardware version and do need a newer kernel or something04:12
jonoyep adapter0 through 304:12
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j2daoshwhats up people?04:12
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e-headwhaz up sucker ?04:13
stef_ubu_epiajono: does ur card need firmware at boottime and is the proper firmware file in place (usr/lib/hotplug/firmware)04:13
j2daosh!ubotu tell me about installing a webcam04:13
e-head:)04:13
j2daoshnot a whole lot04:13
j2daoshjust trying to figure this o/s out04:13
jonostef_ubu_epia, havent done anything with firmware04:13
e-headwhat's your question ?04:13
e-headinstalling a webcam ?04:13
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j2daoshlol04:13
fmasiHI can some one tel me the name of a god grafic FPT client becouse gftp is alwas crashing04:13
j2daoshyeah basically04:13
tRSSGuys, i need help badly. I have configured my evolution for our win2k3 exchange server. everything is working like a charm, except for the fact that it won't load the address book from excahgne server?!04:13
tRSSany help would be appreciated!04:13
j2daosham i supposed to mount it?04:13
e-headj2daosh: I've never done that.04:13
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j2daoshlol why cant it just detect plug and play and set it up lol04:14
e-headIt is probably some sort of kernel module driver or something.04:14
e-headj2daosh: ha !  not on linux.  everything is a little bit painful, but good for you.04:14
j2daoshlol good for me? lol not yet... but im trying04:14
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e-headHey people, I have a question.04:15
jonohmmm04:15
e-headWhen I do a "apt-get update", or try to install via an "apt-get install", it complains about a GPG key.04:15
e-headI get this message:04:15
j2daoshi managed to get the sound working... my ntfs drives are read and write now... and i can play mp3's... i just need to get ssh working, webcam installed, and more decoders for movie files... oh and get firefox off my box and just use mozilla04:15
e-headW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>04:15
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jonoNg, the perms on /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 is crw-rw---- - is that right?04:16
e-headj2daosh: you're doing pretty good then.04:16
e-headj2daosh: are you using that captive ntfs driver ?04:16
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j2daoshwell ive only had this os for about 6 days now...04:16
hmpedersenahh.. ubuntu booting on pc for the first time :)04:16
e-headeven my ntfs drives are only read.04:16
hmpedersenBeautiful sight :D04:16
Ngjono: depends which user you ran scan as I guess04:16
j2daoshreally?04:16
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Ngjono: just use sudo for now04:16
j2daoshdont know why i can do it then...04:16
e-headAnybody got any clues to why my package/apt keys from some sources are screwed up ?04:16
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Amaranth!gpg04:17
soundrayRaskall, still here?04:17
ubotu[gpg]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/874604:17
hmpedersennow if it wasnt so slow.. (due to the motherboard/hdd incompatibility issues...)04:17
Amaranthbah04:17
Amaranth!gpgerr04:17
ubotusomebody said gpgerr was a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal04:17
redguy|workwhich one is better: to have a dvd recorder as "slave" with a hdd on ide0 with a 80 wire cable, or as "master" on ide1 with a 40 wire cable and no hard disk?04:17
n9uibany video card guru's here ?04:17
e-headthanks ubotu.04:17
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j2daoshredguy... no hard drive on opitcal cable04:17
jonoNg, no luck as sudo04:18
n9uibgot a borked system and dont know how to fix it04:18
j2daoshand that doesn't matter what o/s ur using04:18
Ngjono: hrm, offhand I'm not sure, I'm sort of at work at the moment, so I don't have my notes to hand of what I did04:18
redguy|workj2daosh: you sure? notice the difference in cables as well04:18
e-headubotu: I take it that is the location of the master package lists on the computer ?  Just delete them all and let apt-get update download new ones ?04:18
ubotue-head: I think you lost me on that one04:18
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jonoNg, /var/log/messages seems to suggest cx88xx: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog04:19
Amaranthe-head: ubotu is a bot :)04:19
Amaranthe-head: but yeah04:19
e-headohh !  ha !04:19
e-headthanks Amaranth.04:19
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Ngjono: erk04:19
xoredJA ICH CHEATE UND ?04:19
redguy|work!de04:19
ubotuit has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de04:19
redguy|work?04:19
j2daoshits just a rule of thumb red04:19
j2daoshsomething to do with the mobo04:20
e-head2.6.11 is the most recent kernel ?04:20
n9uibanyone ????04:20
soundray!anyone04:20
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>04:20
soundrayn9uib, what's the problem?04:21
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llamuhAnyone feel like helping a somewhat noob get his Orinoco Gold wifi card working on breezy? ;)04:22
n9uibwell, i installed a geforce fx5500 in my dell 2350... and not when i try boot ubuntu, i get a kernal panic04:22
n9uibnot syncing- killing init...... and it stalls at hotplug at that point04:22
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soundrayn9uib, can you boot the rescue kernel?04:23
n9uibi had the system working with the intergrated card04:23
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n9uibummmmmm.....   recovery mode ????04:23
soundrayn9uib, ummmm, yes.04:23
superneodoes ubuntu have the proper drivers for my audigy soundcard ??04:23
n9uibstill does the same thing04:23
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soundrayn9uib, can you enter the BIOS setup?04:24
sethkn9uib, try adding vga=ask to the kernel boot line04:24
Ngjono: I think http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html is the guide I used to get a channel list04:24
n9uibyeah, i can get inot the bois04:24
n9uibwell, i am in winders now04:24
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trappistsuperneo: yes04:24
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eksajmwhy wont adept accept my root password?04:25
soundrayn9uib, note sethk's advice. Also check the BIOS to see if you can switch the video default between integrated and add-on card.04:25
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superneois there a way to use the creative proggys on ubuntu then trappist ?04:25
eksajmdo i have to be in certain group?04:25
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superneocreative playcentre04:26
n9uibwell, i can use the intregated card... this is a add on that i ust installed about 1 1/2 weeks ago04:26
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trappistsuperneo: they might work in wine, but the drivers are not creative drivers.04:26
sethkn9uib, it's possible you have to replace the video driver in the initrd file04:26
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soundrayn9uib, did Ubuntu ever boot with the add-on in place?04:27
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llamuhi tried loading the XP drivers that i obtained from Agere for the orinoco gold using ndiswrapper but it claims 'No Vendor' for the INF.  should i just try to find some other windows driver elsewhere or what?  also, would a 2K driver work?  i have no experience with ndiswrapper.04:27
n9uibso, i need to  switch back over to the intragated card and do this and then see if it will boot04:27
n9uibno, it would never boot with the new add on04:28
n9uibsee, how weird this is04:28
n9uibbee driving me batty04:29
eksajmwhen i use adept, does the user have to be in a certain group? cause when i try to do it with my user, adept wont accept the password?04:29
Haroldo16#ubuntu-pt04:29
windmillhi, encrypted dvds won't play back on my laptop but unencrypted ones will, what do I need to install?04:29
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windmillI have got libdvdcss installed04:30
trappisthow did you install it04:30
hmpedersenright.. now i see a grey screen with alot of text.. starting with call trace..04:30
eksajmwhen i use adept, does the user have to be in a certain group? cause when i try to do it with my user, adept wont accept the password!04:30
windmillapt-get intall libdvdcss204:30
trappistwindmill: try sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh04:30
hmpedersenoh..04:30
llamuhguess my question is too noobish.. or everyone is too busy heh04:31
hmpedersenwill the i386 install if i have an amd 64 cpu?04:31
soundrayn9uib, you may have to play with the settings in the BIOS, and possibly reset the configuration to exclude any conflicts.04:31
soundrayhmpedersen, yes.04:31
trappistllamuh: sorry, I've never used ndiswrapper.  have you tried the linux native orinoco drivers?04:31
hmpedersensoundray, then this doesnt make any sence..  It installed fine.. No errors..04:32
hmpedersenBut now it wont finish booting..04:32
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n9uibsound:  thanks for the push in the right direction.... i have never had a kernal panic problem before.... this is all pretty new...lol04:32
eksajmanyone uses the adept package to install thigns?04:32
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hmpedersenno.. it didnt finish installing..04:32
windmilltrappist that downgraded it04:32
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hmpedersenhmm.. configuring cupsys.. that didnt take more than a second on the laptop..04:33
llamuhtrappist: no i havent because on the forums people acted like it was no problem to use the windows drivers for this card.  i have downloaded the linux drivers from agere but they dont seem to like the pcmcia "drivers" (for lack of a better word) that come with ubuntu.  i guess ill try the linux ones again and tell you the exact error04:33
llamuhthanks anyways..04:33
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norskfjordhello04:35
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norskfjordmy apt-get is broken04:35
norskfjordYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:04:35
norskfjordThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:35
cgnethello04:35
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eksajmanyone uses the adept package to install thigns? i have a problem cause it wont accept the root passowrd eventhough it is correct04:35
cgnetmay I ask you something?04:35
norskfjordwhen I do 'apt-get -f install' it still does not resolve the issue.04:35
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{anthrax}anyone using fluxbox?04:35
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norskfjordyes04:35
cgnethow can I increase the speed of my browser?04:35
norskfjord{anthrax}04:36
{anthrax}worth trying?04:36
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norskfjordyes, it's excellent04:36
norskfjordand blackbox04:36
norskfjordI actually run blackbox04:36
norskfjordbut it04:36
{anthrax}installation simple?04:36
norskfjordbut it's very simaly04:36
{anthrax}ok04:36
norskfjordeasy04:36
{anthrax}:D we like easy lol04:36
norskfjordsudo apt-get install blackbox04:36
norskfjorddone04:36
norskfjordthen look in the menu for blackbox04:36
norskfjordand it will start that wm04:37
{anthrax}k04:37
eksajmnorskfjord, hwo do you choose which to run if you have fluxbox and balckbox installd?04:37
MrFartsanyone here know about envision monitors ?04:37
eksajmoh ;)04:37
eksajmsrty ;)04:37
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norskfjordwhat wm are you using now?04:37
norskfjordshould be under window managers04:37
{anthrax}brb04:37
eksajmi have kde, but i was just wondering. pure intrest ;)04:38
cgnethow can I increase the speed of my browser?04:38
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_jasoncgnet, which browser would that be04:38
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cgnetfirefox 1.0.704:39
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DJ_Necrogamihow do i find out what is running on port 80 because something is blocking my Web Server from starting04:39
_jasoncgnet, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id252339704:39
trappistDJ_Necrogami: it's almost certainly your webserver04:40
KianHm. I chose to format my whole disk, and it set-up ekt3, but i got no question of making av swap-disk... Does it make swap itself?04:40
DJ_Necrogamitrappist, its not runing04:40
iGenDJ_Necrogami: nmap yourself or check you're firewall04:40
cgnetI will check it now _jason04:40
trappistDJ_Necrogami: netstat -ntlp04:40
DJ_Necrogamips aux | grep lighttpd shows nothing04:40
soundraynorskfjord, I found an article that may have the answer to your apt problem.04:41
soundraynorskfjord, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/195221704:41
DJ_Necrogaminothing on 8004:41
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trappistDJ_Necrogami: what error is lighttpd giving you04:41
DJ_Necrogaminecrogami@serv1:~$ lighttpd -f /etc/lighttpd.conf04:41
DJ_Necrogami2005-12-15 10:41:41: (network.c.265) can't bind to port 80 Permission denied04:41
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linuX|BowlingXhi@all, i have 3 windows (ntfs) partitions and iam unable to mount them, even as I add the options "ro,user,auto" to fstab, any suggestions?04:42
DJ_Necrogamioh duh04:42
DJ_Necrogamiretard me forgot i need root to run that04:42
trappistDJ_Necrogami: permission denied is a little weird.  if it's taken usually it'd say socket in use.  does fuser -v -n tcp 80 say anything?04:42
rosendoes anyone know what port 137 is used for ?04:42
DJ_Necrogamii was running it as a user not root04:42
trappistoh wait I forgot that too :)04:42
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trappistrosen: grep 137 /etc/services04:43
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gunduhi04:43
linuX|BowlingXhi04:43
nox_ghostI wrote a script that compiles the newest 2.6.14.4 kernel. Someone wants to give it a try? http://ilunix.org/scripts/CompileKernel26144.sh04:44
gunduhow can I find out what for a desktop-resolution my laptop supports ?04:44
linuX|BowlingXmanual04:44
rosentrappist, huh ?04:44
gunduhavent :(04:44
gundulost it04:44
gundu:/04:44
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soundraygundu, 1024x76804:44
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Rickerhello04:44
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trappistrosen: /etc/services is a fairly comprehensive list of what services run on what ports.  type 'grep 137 /etc/services' in a console to see what it says.04:44
DJ_Necrogamigundu, google!04:45
soundraygundu, it's a guess, but very likely.04:45
gunduhm ok04:45
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rosentrappist, I get this return - bash: greb: command not found04:45
DJ_Necrogamigundu, http://linux-laptops.net04:45
soundraygundu, is this for setting up X?04:45
trappistrosen: grep.04:45
rosenlol04:45
rosensorrrry04:45
DJ_Necrogamigundu, http://www.linux-laptop.net/ -s04:46
DJ_Necrogamii added a s in the last url04:46
gundusoundray yes, want to set my desktop resolution higher04:46
soundray!fixres04:46
ubotusomebody said fixres was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:46
trappistgundu: shoot for 1280x1024.  if that doesn't work, it's probably 1024x76804:46
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Rickerwhen I create an appache website folder in my /var/www/ folder, do I need to set certain permissions in order for the users to execute scripts correctly?  I am trying to install wordpress and I have the wordpress folder in my /var/www/ folder and it's not working correctly.04:47
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ZambbaI've installed the minimal install of Ubuntu. Now I've heard about the Ubuntu Server which has "server-orientated kernel". How can I install that kernel-image to my home server and what benefit do I get if i do so?04:47
soundraygundu, do you have the diagonal size in inches?04:47
gundutrappist, DJ_Necrogami, soundray thats mine: http://rcswww.urz.tu-dresden.de/~s2890409/linux_maxdata_eco4500a.html04:47
gundu15' ?04:47
trappistRicker: what kind of scripts?  is it perl or what?04:47
eksajmhow do i add support for synaptic in sudo?04:48
trappisteksajm: I don't understand your question.04:48
Rickertrappist, hmm I'm not sure what wordpress is written in to be honest.04:48
_jasoneksajm, what do you mean04:48
DJ_Necrogami gundu, i'd go with 1024x76804:48
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gunduyes i already have this04:48
RickerI'm thinking it's php04:48
_jasongundu, how old is the laptop04:48
eksajmtrappist, well when i try to start synaptic it wont accept the correct rpot password. just says it is wrong04:48
eksajmbut its not04:48
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gundubut for me the resolution is too small :/04:49
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trappistRicker: unless it's php it's probably a cgi, in which case you need to put it in /usr/lib/cgi-bin04:49
gundu_jason, about half a year04:49
_jasoneksajm, are you using your root password?04:49
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DJ_Necrogami_jason, Processor:  AMD Turion64 3000 (1.6 GHz, ML30, 35W)04:49
eksajm_jason, yeah? should i not?04:49
_jasoneksajm, arg, i meant 'user' apssword04:49
trappisteksajm: you're giving it the root password, or your password?04:49
bipolareksajm: it's not asking for a root password. it's asking for yours04:49
DRAGON_Ultrais your cap lock on?04:49
eksajmrioot password04:49
DJ_Necrogami_jason, his laptop isnt old at all04:49
linuX|BowlingXno one knows how to access a ntfs partition as a user?04:49
eksajmoh!04:49
_jasonDJ_Necrogami, indeed04:49
pescoWaah, there is no uqm-0.4.0 in multiverse! This is horrible! ;-)04:49
eksajmwtf? can i use synaptic on my own account?04:49
iGenno good :(04:50
Rickertrappist, ok so then I'll need to edit an apache config file to point to that folder in my /usr/lib/cgi-bin dir?04:50
bipolareksajm: ubuntu has no root password by default.04:50
soundraygundu, what resolution are you using now?04:50
eksajmwhy is it then asking for a password?04:50
linuX|BowlingXstill studied the wiki :D04:50
_jasonubotu, tell eksajm about sudo04:50
bipolareksajm: look at the man page for sudo04:50
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trappistlinuX|BowlingX: add 'umask=000' and/or 'uid=1000' to the /etc/fstab line with your ntfs partition04:50
eksajmbipolar, yeah okeyt thanks..04:50
trappistRicker: I haven't looked but I'm pretty sure it's already there as a ScriptAlias.  may just need to comment it out.04:50
eksajmbe back later with more questions then ;)04:50
windmillmy totem-xine doesn't want to use libdvdcss :((04:51
gundusoundray, 1024x78604:51
gundusorry had givven you the wrong link, right is http://www.komputilo.org/~joostje/linux/maxdata/04:51
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iGeneksajm, the sudo password is you're user password04:51
linuX|BowlingXok, thanks04:51
_jasongundu, can't you just call your manufacture and find out the resolution?  Otherwise, just try the most common and see which one looks the best, that will be your native resolution :)04:51
soundraygundu, according to http://www.maxdata.de/news_press/Presseberichte/2005/03/21_notebook.html, that's all you will get from this laptop.04:51
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ofircan rpm files can be opend in ubuntu ?04:51
trappistofir: they can be converted to .debs with alien04:52
iGengundu, should say on the back of the monitor04:52
_jasonofir, yes, but it is preferrable that you find an ubuntu package04:52
Rickertrappist.  ok cool.  the thing that i"m still frustrated with on linux is I NEVER know where to put what files.  Is there a quick & dirty white paper explaining where to put things in linux, and why?04:52
_jasonubotu, tell ofir about alien04:52
anthraxcan anyone help with gdesklets?04:52
ofirok04:52
soundrayiGen, you clearly haven't followed the conversation.04:52
SanderDHow dangerous is it to try out Dapper? Do I help the developers if I do that (and report bugs etc.)?04:53
trappistRicker: there might be, but mostly it's something you just get a feel for.  the cgi-bin being in /usr/lib is a little new to me, but it's always outside the web tree.04:53
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Rickertrappist:  I was afraid you were going to say that.  ;)04:53
ofircan wine work with ubutu ?04:53
anthraxyes04:53
trappistSanderD: it would help you be helpful, but if you don't feel very confident about being able to restore a busted system, don't do it.  it's unsupported and unstable.04:53
trappistofir: yes04:53
nox_ghostSanderD, yeah, you can help the developers by reporting bugs. You can encouter problems that in order fix them you have to rewrite part of the code and recompile it to get it work.04:54
gundumaybe i should try it ..04:54
pescoSeriously though, I have no knowledge about the debian package system, but if it's not too complicated I want to help by turning an existing Debian deb into one for multiverse. What do I do?04:54
gunduwhats the next resolution after 1024x78604:54
jbroome1280.102404:54
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jbroomeand it's 76804:54
nox_ghostguerby, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. you don't have to write the resolutions yourself.04:54
ofirthanks04:54
SanderDtrappist: do you mean the OS can get busted, or can it break my computer (when I'm using wrong drivers or something like that)?04:55
SanderDnox_ghost: and if I can't really write code?04:55
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soundraygundu, you will never go above the native resolution of your laptop, unless you want to use panning.04:55
anthraxi get this error when running ./configure on gdesklets.... checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool04:55
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nox_ghostSanderD, So you will be stuck with a system that can't boot, for example.04:55
balorAre the special function keys on my laptop (for screen selection etc..) handled by the kernel or xorg?04:55
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pescobalor: most probably neither.04:55
ZoohouseWhy is it that when I want to uninstall programs like gnome-games that uninstalling those packages will also uninstall gonome-desktop ?????04:55
SanderDnox_ghost: okay, but then I could always reinstall ubuntu...04:56
nox_ghostanthrax, You don't have a perl module needed for this operation. Why don't you install gdesklets from the repos ?04:56
windmilloh no hang on it is trying to use libdvdread but it's failing saying :   libdvdread Invalid main menu IFO (VIDEO_TS.IFO).  why it that???#04:56
anthraxk04:56
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nox_ghostSanderD, If you have the time and patience, do it.04:56
tty54can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US04:56
Rickertrapper: where do I look for the ScriptAlias reference that you mentioned?04:56
soundrayZoohouse, yes, but don't worry -- these are metapackages. If you remove gnome-desktop, you won't actually be removing software.04:56
nox_ghostanthrax, try this sources.list file: http://ilunix.org/scripts/related-files/sources.list04:56
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nox_ghostanthrax, it has gdesklets and much more on it.04:57
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Zoohousesoundray, I did not understand04:57
soundrayZoohouse, gnome-desktop is a package that contains no software of its own.04:57
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ofiris there a linux that open both rpm and deb ?04:57
imnesIn 5.10, if I create a gnome main menu (not menu bar) and set a custom icon for it, it displays a black arrow Y pixels from the left side of the image.  Any way to disable drawing that?04:58
linkdnot that i know of04:58
trappistSanderD: it's not likely to damage your hardware.  it's really not very likely to be unbootable, but it's fairly likely, for example, that X will fail to start.04:58
Amaranthofir: nope04:58
Amaranthofir: they use incompatible backends04:58
Rickertrappist: where do I look for the ScriptAlias that you mentioned?04:58
Zoohouseso if I remove kbluetooth it says it will untinsall kubuntu-desktop but my kde desktop will stay put?04:58
anthraxill try it04:58
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bipolarI just switched to kubuntu using apt, its there a way I can remove the gnome stuff without apt-get removing package by package?04:58
soundrayZoohouse, it just depends on other packages, meaning that if you install it, you will have all the luxuries of a desktop system, including somewhat silly games.04:58
SanderDtrappist: okay, I've already had many problems of that kind, so I think I can handle that :-)04:58
tty54can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US04:58
trappistSanderD: awesome, go for it :)04:59
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tty54can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US04:59
Zoohousesoundray, i want KDE but not all the stuff that it comes with. Is that another package other then kubuntu?04:59
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trappisttty54: quit repeating yourself.  there are many kinds of proxies.  try being more specific.04:59
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tty54can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US, all i need is to get to sourceforge, anything will work05:00
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aTypicalMorning05:00
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_jasontty54, if you googled for a proxy in the US you'd probably have your answer by now05:00
Amaranthtty54: most open proxies are banned from sites like that05:00
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soundrayZoohouse, check out 'apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop'. From that list, install what you need.05:01
bipolartty54: why do you need a proxy to get to sf?05:01
imnestty54: http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html05:01
imnesaccoding to google05:01
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tty54bipolar: the site is blocked05:01
tty54ALL SITES ARE BLOCKED AT MY SCHOOL THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PROXIES05:01
DjLinXHello i was wondering if USB loads b4 or after networking when u first start up ur comp05:01
hmpedersenNo.. Ubuntu will -not. install on my computer..05:01
_jasontty54, use google's translate feature, it will act as a proxy05:02
bipolartty54: where are you that it's being blocked? A school in the US?05:02
Zoohousesoundray, but I still want to run KDE as my desktop05:02
ofiri tried slick the freesusse and it was very cool - very simple to use05:02
Zoohouseim not following along here...05:02
Amaranthtty54: Please don't yell.05:02
hmpedersenIve removed everything thats not essential for installing..05:02
soundrayZoohouse, advice is the same.05:02
imnes68.121.109.118   66.162.34.505:02
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dionHi all05:02
imnesI dunno if those work they're just on the list05:02
Amaranthajmitch: Do you know who removed my +J?05:03
dionIt's seems i can't open alot of programs?!05:03
tty54imnes: port numbers?05:03
eksajm_jason, "the conversation with su failed"05:03
Zoohousekinda sucks not being able to just uninstall things without getting rid of kde...05:03
_jasontty54, try: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sourceforge.net&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools05:03
dionIs that a common bug?05:03
KianHm. Is it possible to get APT to search other places on the net? If i do apt-get install apache it does not find it.05:03
Zoohouseor gnome for that matter05:03
imnes8080 on the first, 80 on the second05:03
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Amaranthdion: nope05:03
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Amaranthdion: can you open a terminal?05:03
trappistZoohouse: you can uninstall stuff without getting rid of kde.05:03
dionYeah05:03
soundrayZoohouse, you still haven't followed what I explained.05:03
dionI can open a termenal and run apt-get05:03
Yogarinehowdy05:04
Zoohousesoundray, i don't understand.05:04
_jasoneksajm, what were you trying to do?05:04
nickrudZoohouse, if kubuntu-desktop gets removed, that will not remove the rest of kde05:04
dionbut updating wont work via synatep05:04
Zoohouseoh ok05:04
Zoohouseah ok :)05:04
Amaranthdion: synaptic won't start?05:04
eksajmadept and synaptic05:04
dionNope05:04
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imnesDoes anybody know which source package contains the code for drawing the gnome panel menus?05:04
Amaranthdion: open a terminal and run 'gksudo synaptic'05:04
eksajmfound out that sudo password is not root pass but it still doesnt worl _jason05:04
dionK05:04
thoreauputicZoohouse: the package is actually just a list of dependencies, basically05:04
Amaranthdion: i want to see what the output is if it fails again05:04
Yogarinecould someone tell me what is the best way to upgrade my Breezy to the Drake WIP?05:04
_jasoneksajm, is this a regular install?05:05
dionNothing05:05
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Zoohousebrb05:05
eksajmkubunto?05:05
tty54gentoo is the shit05:05
trappistYogarine: put drake sources in sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade.05:05
eksajmcan it be different?05:05
tty54whats better, gentoo or ubuntu05:05
dionJust Nothing happes its ask a password I enter it And then Nothing happens05:05
AmaranthYogarine: You want an expensive doorstop?05:05
AmaranthYogarine: dapper is not very usable right now05:05
trappisttty54: you're asking in the wrong place.05:05
Yogarinetrappist: that all? cool :P05:05
soundraytty54, the question is pointless.05:05
Yogarineamaranth: is that so?05:05
tty54why is it pointless05:05
DjLinXHello i was wondering if i could get my wireless usb device to boot b4 my network05:05
soundraytty54, because it depends on what you need.05:06
trappisttty54: it's a matter of preference, and most people here probably prefer ubuntu.05:06
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_jasoneksajm, have you ever successfully sudo'd before?05:06
eksajmno05:06
Amaranthtty54: People are here because they like ubuntu, what do you think they will answer? :)05:06
iGentty54: netbsd05:06
tty54yeah, uh, west side05:06
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tty54fuck biggie05:06
eksajmjust changed to ubuntu from gentoo05:06
eksajm_jason, ^05:06
_jasoneksajm, is your current user, the first user you created?05:06
Amaranthhi thoreauputic :)05:06
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tty54west side till we die!05:06
tty54bitches05:06
eksajm_jason,  yes05:06
trappistfreak.05:06
dionDarn05:06
Amaranthtty54: Please don't swear.05:06
thoreauputictty54: all off-topic discussion -->> #ubuntu-offtopic please05:06
tty54first off, fuck yo bitch in the click u clan05:06
tty54west side05:06
tty54wen we die05:06
tty54niggas get we can05:06
thoreauputicAmaranth: hi :)05:06
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trappistthanks Amaranth05:07
dion:d05:07
ofiri have download xwine what do i do next ?05:07
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dionStill my alot of the programs dont work :P :(05:07
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_jasoneksajm, he should have sudo priveleges, try 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal.  Use your user password.  And see if it says hi.05:07
tty54WHATS BETTER GENTOO OR UBUNTU05:07
ofircan i download ie and run it ?05:07
_jasontty54, go away05:07
soundraytty54 grow up, then ask again.05:07
tty54ANY NIGGAS IN THE HOUSE05:07
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dionhaha such a stupid kid05:08
ofirfreesusse "slicks" is very cool05:08
trappistI hate people who suck.05:08
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gundu_sorry was disconnected05:08
amparo_pzzihow can i install vmware-tools05:08
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mahanguwierd man05:08
AmaranthGuys, be nice.05:08
mahanguAmaranth, :)05:08
saik0how would I prepend zeros to a sting in bash until it's a certain length?05:08
gundu_is there andy way to test how high i can go with my resolution ?05:08
eksajm_jason,  no it doesnt. its just blank05:08
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ardchoilleAmaranth: hehe, I just kick/banned him from ##gnome too05:08
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dionAmarath Do you know what it is? Just some programs in Gnome wont load05:09
_jasoneksajm, just blank?  it didn't say incorrect password?05:09
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ermowas it a bot?05:09
Amaranthdion: what was the error?05:09
nickrudgundu, if you look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there's a list of resolutions that your system supports, along with a bunch it doesen't05:09
dionNone05:09
stef_ubu_epia!bot05:09
eksajm_jason, no just didnt say anything05:09
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.05:09
superneoi have ubuntu on a p3 450 with 384Mb of ram ...are there any proggys to tweak or accelerate the performance ?05:09
gundu_does anyone knows an alternative for "gedit" ? because he brakes every line when it had reached the end and thats not very clear05:09
amparo_pzzisomeone???????????05:09
eksajm_jason, the password was correct05:09
Amaranthsuperneo: Not really, but you might like xubuntu better.05:09
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eksajmDec 15 17:08:04 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=pts/1 ruser= rhost=  user=simon05:10
eksajm_jason, ^05:10
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Amaranthgundu_: Disable line wrapping in the gedit preferences05:10
eksajmthats tha auth.log05:10
gundu_have not found it, already searched..05:10
oudeishi, where do i change input language in ububtu?05:10
superneoxubuntu ?05:10
Amaranthdion: gksudo synaptic didn't output anything at all?05:10
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dionI get a error05:10
Amaranthdion: that's what i wanted to see05:10
dionAmaranth: I typed it wrong (Shame me)05:10
gundu_ah05:10
dionOk the error is05:10
gundu_sorry05:10
_jasoneksajm, groups | grep admin, return anything?05:10
dion(synaptic:9841): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed05:10
dion(synaptic:9841): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed05:10
gundu_have found it now, thx05:10
Amarantheek05:11
amparo_pzziwzsaq05:11
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dionIt will load know but only when i start it manually in the terminal05:11
Amaranthdion: that's odd..05:11
imnesIs there a developers channel for ubuntu?05:11
dionIf I try to open updates It wont open05:11
eksajm_jason, yeah05:11
shadewind|laptopanyone who knows why the ubuntu installation fails when installing the linux-386 package?05:11
eksajm_jason, simon and some more05:11
Amaranthdion: you're starting it from the terminal the exact same same it starts from the menu05:11
mahangushadewind|laptop, i had some problems with the servers on that package05:11
Amaranthimnes: What do you need?05:12
dionOh weird05:12
mahangushadewind|laptop, are you using net install?05:12
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shadewind|laptopmahangu: nope, Ubuntu Server 5.10 install CD05:12
eksajm_jason,  now it doesnt even ask for a password when i try sudo echo..05:12
imnesAmaranth: working on a patch I'm not sure how to use the debian packaging tools to build / install the modified sources05:12
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oudeiscan someone help? i cant' find how to switch input languages05:12
mahangushadewind|laptop, have you checked the md5sum of the CD05:12
ofirhow to run wine/xwine ?05:12
mahangucould be a bad burn05:12
imnesAmaranth: used apt-get source gnome-panel, changed some code, now I want to build and test it.05:12
Amaranthimnes: that's probably a question for #ubuntu-motu05:13
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ofirjust downloading an exe file ?05:13
imnesOkay, thanks05:13
stef_ubu_epiaofir: just start w(h)ining ;-D05:13
_jasoneksajm, you type 'sudo echo hi' and nothing happens at all?  The only way it won't ask for a password is if you entered it correctly, it saves it for some time (I think this is the only way)05:13
eksajm_jason, okey but why doesnt it echo hi?05:13
eksajmnothing apperas05:13
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ofirdidnt understand05:14
shadewind|laptopmahangu: the md5 sum is fine05:15
_jasoneksajm, I don't know... that's strange05:15
dionWell i must go and buy some fish05:15
stef_ubu_epiaofir: forget ist, it doesn't have any benefit for you... if u still want to waste time you have to apt-get install wine first05:15
_jasoneksajm, sudo synaptic, does that run?05:15
mahangushadewind|laptop, then i dunno, sorry05:16
dionMany people have problem with synaptic i see05:16
dionwow05:16
eksajm_jason,  no nothing happands05:16
ofiri have installed xwine - what do i do next05:16
_jasoneksajm, sudo -K, and try again05:16
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shadewind|laptopanyone else who knows why ubuntu server install fails on package linux-386? seems to be a common problem05:16
stef_ubu_epiaget a terminal an type wine or xwine05:16
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ofirmy mother dont like the linux since she cant see her bank acount in firefox and opera05:17
eksajm_jason,  simon is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.05:17
eksajmnever got that before05:17
eksajmfirst time05:17
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_jasoneksajm, sudo cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin05:17
LaptopZZhey, I upgraded my kernel and I get a vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)05:17
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LaptopZZI booted from a CD, ran chroot05:17
LaptopZZand installed the old kernel that worked from apt repo05:17
LaptopZZstill same problem05:17
eksajm_jason, it dosnt work since the user is not in sudores05:18
AmaranthLaptopZZ: dapper?05:18
LaptopZZI think my initrd or vmlinuz got trashed05:18
LaptopZZAmaranth: yah05:18
_jasoneksajm, lol right05:18
eksajm_jason, as root it gives nothing05:18
AmaranthLaptopZZ: dapper is very broken right now05:18
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AmaranthLaptopZZ: new kernel needs a new userland, old kernel doesn't work well with new userland05:18
_jasoneksajm, get rid of the grep and see who is getting sudo priveleges05:18
AmaranthLaptopZZ: but it sounds like your partition got trashed05:18
LaptopZZAmaranth: its not, I mounted ir from another hd05:19
eksajmDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn05:19
eksajm# User privilege specification05:19
eksajmroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL05:19
eksajmthats all05:19
eksajmand a lots of comment05:19
eksajms05:19
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LaptopZZAmaranth: I think I Just need to get my initrd back or something05:19
LaptopZZit worked fine till I removed my old kernels05:19
LaptopZZand installed only linux-image-k7-smp05:19
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LaptopZZit previously had -k7 and -38605:20
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_jasoneksajm, okay, add the following tow lines to the end:05:20
AmaranthLaptopZZ: that looks like a grub error05:20
hmpedersenI'm gonna give install 20 more minutes before i kill it.. this time it stopped at libsdl1,2debian-oss05:20
_jasoneksajm, # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges05:20
LaptopZZAmaranth: will a reinstall of grub get me running?05:20
_jasoneksajm, %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL05:20
LaptopZZAmaranth: how can I tell grub to reinstate everything05:20
_jasoneksajm, wait!05:20
eksajm_jason,05:20
eksajmwhat?05:20
_jasoneksajm, use visudo to edit it05:20
eksajmi dont have sudo priveleges ;D05:21
_jasoneksajm, just run visudo as root05:21
eksajmnano -w is that good enough05:21
eksajmkk05:21
trappistLaptopZZ: that sounds exactly right.  your initrd has your filesystem drivers and without it your kernel won't be able to mount your filesystems.05:21
eksajm_jason, in gentoo we have a group called wheel. which is the group that can su to root05:21
eksajmnothing like that in ubuntu?05:21
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DRK13a05:21
_jasoneksajm, not that I've seen, just admin to get sudo priveleges05:22
LaptopZZtrappist: yea makes sense, how can I get that back? I thought that would be included in the linux-image-xxxx05:22
eksajm_jason, okey05:22
eksajmwell lets try it05:22
DjLinXwats the command to change permissions05:22
eksajmsudo echo hi?05:22
trappistLaptopZZ: I dunno, I wrestled with the same thing for some time before giving up.  I couldn't even get an initrd building the kernel myself.  you might try apt-get install --reinstall.05:22
_jasoneksajm, sure05:22
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NgDjLinX: chmod05:23
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eksajm_jason,  it doens show anything05:23
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_jasoneksajm, sudo -K and try again05:23
eksajmmm did ;/05:23
eksajmsudo synaptic didnt work either ;/05:23
djibis there a program to open sqlite databases ?05:23
LaptopZZtrappist: I'll give it a shot05:23
hmpedersendoes ubuntu have problems with fx5200 chipset and sb live?05:23
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trappisthmpedersen: never heard of fx5200 but sblive is supported.05:24
AmaranthLaptopZZ: dpkg-reconfigure the kernel package05:24
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KianHow do I change so I can se chars like    ?05:24
AmaranthLaptopZZ: it'll remake the initramfs05:24
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AmaranthKian: you should be able to already05:24
dpuppis /etc/apt/preferences suposed to be a blank file? im wanting to make sure i install the wineHQ version... and its telling me to add those lines...05:24
hmpedersentrappist, nvidia chipset for graphic cards..05:24
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jowihello all05:24
LaptopZZAmaranth: k I will do that05:24
Amaranthdpupp: it starts blank, yes05:24
stef_ubu_epiawb jowi05:24
dpuppThanks Amaranth05:25
KianAmaranth: I am not... I can write it in bash, but not in irssi.05:25
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nickrudhmpedersen, I use the fx5200, the stuff from ubuntu works just fine05:25
_jasoneksajm, hrmm your user is in the admin group, you can pastebin your sudoers file to make sure it looks like mine if you'd like.  maybe something needs to be refreshed, you can try to reboot if the syntax of sudoers checks out05:25
AmaranthKian: gnome-terminal?05:25
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jowistef_ubu_epia: cheers. breezy installed, compiling the kernel now05:25
KianAmaranth: no, ssh-connection05:25
hmpedersennickrud, its just interesting.. Ive installed twice now.. It either freezes at trying to setup graphics or sound..05:25
AmaranthKian: what terminal are you using?05:25
stef_ubu_epiajowi: same here (gcc going along)05:25
AmaranthKian: konsole, gnome-terminal, putty, etc05:25
KianAmaranth: Hm, you mean putty?05:25
Kianputty05:25
jowistef_ubu_epia: via driver works out-of-the-box with breezy btw. so you should not have any use for the vesa driver05:25
trappistis everyone's dmesg polluted with messages like atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed... ?05:26
AmaranthKian: ok then, i have no idea05:26
AmaranthKian: i blame putty :P05:26
Kianok.. :-P05:26
KianWell, it works on another server.. so i guess its not putty05:26
Kianhehe05:26
Amaranthtrappist: mine was05:26
eksajm_jason, you think a reboot might work?05:26
Amaranthtrappist: or is, i dunno05:26
trappistoh, putty.  I couldn't even enter my password in putty.05:26
robotgeekKian: putty might have some encoding.05:26
LaptopZZAmaranth: do u know how to stop messages from going to the console?05:26
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nickrudhmpedersen, do you have onboard, sound & video, and if yes, did you disable in bios (I didn't need to but...)05:26
jowistef_ubu_epia: had to disable framebuffer because my lcd errored to "out-of-range"05:26
KianHm..05:26
LaptopZZAmaranth: this old sata_nv driver streams this annoying stuff non stop05:26
hmpedersennickrud, allways disable that sort of stuff.. it never works05:26
trappist!tell Amaranth about e02a05:27
Amaranthtrappist: err05:27
_jasoneksajm, I think it should be working now, since your setup is the same as mine now.  I think rebooting is worth a shot05:27
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Amaranthtrappist: was on a desktop05:27
trappistneed to turn that into a bug report I guess.  thought it was just here and there, but I have it on all my boxes.05:27
eksajmkk lets try it then.05:27
stef_ubu_epiajowi: Naaahhhh, not with me! After the install routine i had the same prob... black screen but hearing the drumroll, until i manually changed the driver to vesa05:27
Amaranthtrappist: well, actually a vmware image05:27
eksajmbe back ;)05:27
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trappistAmaranth: me too, I think it's there for laptops and it's busted.05:27
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KianWell there is something starnge with putty i guess. It works on the server..05:27
k_why doesnt my sound work in vlc?  system sounds work, but not vlc.05:28
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mahanguhow can i unrar a file?05:28
jowistef_ubu_epia: after a fresh breezy install!? that is bad bad bad.05:28
trappistmahangu: unrar x file.rar05:28
mindframewhy doesnt my sound work in vlc?  system sounds work, but not vlc.05:28
stef_ubu_epiajowi: but true05:28
DRK13anyone get conky working in ubuntu> ?  I tryed to compile from source, but no workie. I ran a 686 version with my 686 kernel. and it says that I need the 686 version of conky, I did use the 686 version!  WTF?05:28
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nickrudhmpedersen, all I can say is that http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia worked like a charm05:29
tiriscould someone direct me to the correct documentation...I am having trouble finding out how to do something?05:29
llamuhtrappist:  its me again with the proxim orinoco gold card problems.  from what i can gather from netstumbler forums and such, the card i have is not a classic gold card and thus does not have the hermes chipset.  i believe it is the 11b card they made which should have the Atheros chipset that they used in the b/g cards.  now what i dont get is this is a very common card and i dont see how it isnt already supported in ubuntu.  ive read on some forums that peo05:29
mahangutrappist, oh the package wasnt installed. thanks05:29
jowistef_ubu_epia: maybe you should run the memtest in the grubmenu...?05:29
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robotgeekDRK13: conky is in the repositories05:29
dgbhow can I logon with root in ubuntu?05:29
jowistef_ubu_epia: what are your bios settings for the agp? do you have another video card plugged in?05:29
trappistllamuh: if it has an atheros chipset it should work fantastically with the madwifi drivers05:29
robotgeekDRK13: enable universe05:30
DRK13conky dosent install correctly from the repos.05:30
DRK13I tryed it05:30
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DRK13its a bad version for something, I read about it on the forums05:30
trappist!tell dgb about root05:30
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stef_ubu_epiajowi: No other video, video-ram in bios set to 32M05:30
LaptopZZllamuh: the madwifi-ng is aewsome05:30
llamuhyeah i saw someone mention madwifi on a forum.  where can i get info on madwifi?05:30
llamuhjust google it? ;)05:30
LaptopZZllamuh: google for madwifi-ng, and follow the noobie guuide05:30
llamuhim being such a noob, i know05:30
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trappistllamuh: that's always a good start05:30
LaptopZZllamuh: walks you right through it05:30
stef_ubu_epiaOk, kernel compile just finished05:30
llamuhthanks05:31
trappistdoesn't ubuntu ship with the madwifi drivers?05:31
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DRK13maybe05:31
robotgeekDRK13: try compiling from source, it is pretty easy. apt-get build-dep conky first05:31
LaptopZZtrappist: even dappers doesn't have new enough ones05:31
khermansHOw can I install Bitpim?05:31
trappistoh05:31
LaptopZZtrappist: my p7010d is a year old and dappers doesn't even support my atheros, only the latest svn does05:31
hmpedersennickrud, well.. it might work for me aswell.. if i could do it while installing ubuntu05:31
jowistef_ubu_epia: maybe you should disable framebuffer in ubuntu install and not use it in your custom kernel either05:31
jowistef_ubu_epia: you can also try in the installer pci=noacpi05:31
stef_ubu_epiajowi: compiled it as module, so i can turn it off05:32
nickrudhmpedersen, install problems are mostly over my head, I don't know enough about the internals of that05:32
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jowistef_ubu_epia: brilliant05:32
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DRK13ok will trywill try05:32
stef_ubu_epiaOK, just let me set up the new kernel and see05:32
robotgeekDRK13: while you are at it, file a bug too :)05:32
nickrudhmpedersen, didn't realize it was during the install :)05:33
DRK13Ok05:33
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mindframeanyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the card to work :(05:35
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trappistI just got an email about how dapper is gonna have 'less' bugs (should be 'fewer') than any release ever.  seems like a premature announcement given the current extreme brokenness of dapper.05:35
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DjLinXhow do u chown a whole dir with sub dirs and other files05:36
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_jasonDjLinX, chown -R05:36
trappistDjLinX: chown -R05:36
DjLinXthx05:36
LaptopZZtrappist: yeah I wish I had stayed with breezy05:36
jowistef_ubu_epia: i forgot to put in pci=noacpi in the installer so i got some funny errors during "installing packages" process. very interesting error indeed: "apm: overridden by acpi" "apm: disabled on user request". I hope this won't affect anything i'm doing now though...05:36
trappistDjLinX: also feel free to 'man chown'05:36
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DjLinXwats the man do05:36
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LaptopZZtrappist: I have it going up till it tries to mount the rootfs05:37
DRK13I am still using horry untill Dapper is final05:37
_jasonDjLinX, man man05:37
stef_ubu_epiaok, x-ing fingers...05:37
_jasonDjLinX, manual files05:37
hmpedersengonna try some other params when starting install this time..05:37
DjLinXo05:37
DRK13k05:37
DjLinXi was on ubuntu guide05:37
eksajm_jason, it works05:37
Joemama_hello, quick question, is there something i need in order to see an ntfs file system over the network, i got a samba share on this puter, but cant seem to write to it, so i shared the other computers drive, and this computer cant seem to see the files and folders in the share05:37
LaptopZZtrappist: dies there saying it can't open /dev/sda2 :-(05:37
SanderDtrappist, LaptopZZ: what kind of problems do you have with Dapper?05:37
eksajmthanks!!05:37
hmpedersenThis computer is going to run ubuntu!05:37
_jasoneksajm, great05:37
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eksajm_jason, dont know why it didnt work before reboot05:37
DjLinXbut all it did was the basic chown05:37
eksajmthans mate..05:37
trappistLaptopZZ: it's a scsi drive?05:37
LaptopZZSanderD: at the moment the new kernel blew up my grub/initrd, I can't boot05:37
_jasoneksajm, np05:37
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LaptopZZtrappist: sata, I have satanv and SiI05:37
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trappistSanderD: I'm going on hearsay, but I'm about to do a vmware install.05:37
LaptopZZtrappist: tried with both it's like the driver is gone05:38
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trappistLaptopZZ: can't help you there.  I've never used a sata drive.05:38
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LaptopZZtrappist: generally its pretty straightforward..05:38
LaptopZZtrappist: this setup as worked for the past 6 mos05:38
stef_ubu_epiashi.....05:38
freddiemy flash player wored dont show up can someone help me05:38
Joemama_is there something i need to see an ntfs file share on windows xp computer?05:38
stef_ubu_epiai had that before05:38
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hmpedersenright.. never seen this before..05:39
ideafixhello unters05:39
LaptopZZJoemama_: no such thing as ntfs etc over smb05:39
LaptopZZJoemama_: it's all smbfs or cifs05:39
Joemama_hrmm05:39
Joemama_cifs ?05:39
Joemama_what is cifs?05:39
stef_ubu_epiax seems to be at the edge of initializing..... 5 sec... and then the monitor switches to black05:39
ideafixmany shipits to you05:39
SanderDLaptopZZ: how long does it take until such problems are fixed? or should you reinstall then?05:39
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NgJoemama_: an enhanced and standardised version of smb, ish05:39
Joemama_well, when i log into the share, it tells me that some of the files are not able to be displayed05:39
LaptopZZSanderD: what do you mean?05:39
stef_ubu_epiano fb, booted with vga=005:39
LaptopZZSanderD: I don't maintain the ubu kernel05:39
Joemama_which happens to be all the files05:39
ideafixany niggaz in here ?05:39
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LaptopZZSanderD: I might get the live cd out to have it load the stock breezy kernel05:40
jowiJoemama_: smbclient should be able to write to it if the kernel's got ntfs write support enabhled. i don't know if the stock kernel has. maybe someone else knows. Something else: XP firewalls are a bitch. if you're natted, disable it for testing.05:40
freddiemy flash player words dont show up can some one help me05:40
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SanderDLaptopZZ: was your problem fixed? I heard many packages are being updated every day or something like that, so I guess those problem might be fixed quickly05:40
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SanderDah, ok05:40
stef_ubu_epiajowi: So i took ur config as a starting point just added reiserfs-support and framebuffer as a module05:40
LaptopZZSanderD: I don't see how I'm going to resolve any problems if I can't even uncompress the kernel from grub05:40
TasmanianDevili have installed ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop05:40
hmpederseni wonder how long he's gonna keep that up.. and how many names he'll be using..05:40
freddiefreddie my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me05:40
Joemama_hrmm05:40
jowistef_ubu_epia: is there an option for framebuffer in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?05:41
TasmanianDevili don't have mp3 support on it05:41
mindframeanyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the wifi to work :(05:41
TasmanianDevilwhat can i do about it05:41
adrochelo all05:41
_jasonubotu, tell TasmanianDevil about mp305:41
freddiefreddie my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me05:41
stef_ubu_epiajowi: mom, let me try something05:41
jowistef_ubu_epia: i followed my own wiki to see if i have everything, so i went with a new config. we'll see in  a while05:41
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freddiemy flash player wored dont show up can someone help me05:41
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freddiemy flash player wored dont show up can someone help me05:42
hmpedersenWell.. I'm going to have to temporarily install wi.. BAQH!05:42
adrocdoes anyone in here use airodump?05:42
_jasonfreddie, what is 'wored'05:42
hmpedersenbah*05:42
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SanderDis it possible to use one /home partition with two linux versions?05:42
muepSanderD: yes05:42
freddie_jasonthe wordes and the nubers just dounr show up05:43
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hmpedersenhmm.. i have xandros somewhere on the desk..05:43
freddiedount*05:43
D1anyone tried clearlooks-cario yet? on breezy or dapper?05:43
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Joemama_Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: minint-bhi9gl".05:43
Joemama_that is the error05:43
bliplsjfocan anyone give me some grub advice?  i have it set to timeout 0 and it's crashing without giving me a chance to repair it.05:43
Joemama_that i am getting05:43
D1I wanna know if its too slow to use.05:43
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D1since it wsa put on dapper05:43
stef_ubu_epiaIntresting things happen here...05:43
Joemama_and i dont see any files listed05:43
SanderDmuep: so I could leave breezy on one partition, install dapper on another and share my /home partition?05:43
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jowiJoemama_: never seen before i'm afraid05:44
Joemama_hrmm05:44
jowistef_ubu_epia: tell me then :)05:44
hmpedersenI dont like the idea of installing xandros.. worst purchase i ever made :(05:44
muepSanderD: yes, it would probably work05:44
Joemama_lemme go see if i can indeed access it from another windows computer05:44
Joemama_brb05:44
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_jasonfreddie, I don't know if this will work for you, but google says: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/17/flash-text-fix/05:44
muepSanderD: newer versions of software might have different conf files but most of the stuff should work ok05:44
jowiJoemama_: check the software firewall while you're at it :)05:44
seliniumhow do you shut down via the commandline?05:45
Ngshutdown -h now05:45
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SanderDmuep: okay, thanks, I think I'll try that (I could always remove the conf files and reconfigure things)05:45
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seliniumNg, Cheers05:45
depx_hi05:45
stef_ubu_epiaI got a strange looking colorful x-desktop on console 1 (!), x-server screwed up, and just a blue empty screen on all other consoles05:45
muepSanderD: no prob, at least it won't mess up your system, the worst damage possible should be some distorted user configs05:45
_jasonfreddie, you may want to try just 'sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11' first and then msttcorefonts afterwards if that doesn't work alone05:46
jowistef_ubu_epia: don't like the sound of that. what did you do to make it ...ehhh... wierd?05:46
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D1nobody with clearlooks-cario? ;[05:46
jowistef_ubu_epia: how much ram have you got on that board?05:46
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stef_ubu_epiajowi: just booting the new kernel with vga=791 and havving the driver set to via05:47
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depx_i'm trying to boot a diskless worstation with pxe + nfs05:47
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mebsdwhat's the difference between debian and ubuntu05:47
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Hericusmebsd, do you run either?05:48
stef_ubu_epiaI think there's something really screwed up in terms of hardware board revisions, and the via concept of preferring the frambuffer as a graphical output05:48
ofirhow to use wine ?05:48
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mebsddeb05:48
stef_ubu_epiajowi: got 512mb05:48
LaptopZZmebsd: if you're a noob, you might want to run ubu05:49
adrochow do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?05:49
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depx_the boot process fail after the kernel : /dev/nfs does not exist. Dropping to a shell!05:49
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ofirinstalled it but dont know tp use05:49
HericusLaptopZZ, define a noob.05:49
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jowistef_ubu_epia: me too, using 64mb for the agp. have you disabled plug-and-play in bios?05:49
adrochow do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?05:49
LaptopZZHericus: someone who doesn't know how to setup X on his own using the config file05:49
hmpedersenhmm.. never got this far in install before.. But im gonna wait and see if it works.. Im sure it wont beat ubuntu, though..05:49
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gypsymaurohello05:49
stef_ubu_epiajowi: i'll try that05:49
adrochow do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?05:49
hmpedersenhmm.. my pizza must be gettin cold..05:50
HericusLaptopZZ, hm.. thats a nice one. I'll save it for christmas eve.05:50
mebsdi  run netbsd and windows xp.. am i newbie?05:50
LaptopZZHericus: hm?05:50
gypsymauroplease tell me the application of ubuntu that's not in the official DB and that you download when installa new one ubuntu:)05:50
Hericus"do you know how to setup x on your own"05:50
Hericushah05:50
LaptopZZHericus: I ran slack in the 3.x days05:50
HericusAdmirable..05:50
HericusAnd now..05:50
LaptopZZI am in school and don't have time to screw with it so I went from deb to ubu05:51
LaptopZZvery nice overall05:51
HericusYes..05:51
Hericus:)05:51
ofirneed help how to run ie under xwine05:51
HericusUbuntu is satisfactory.05:51
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trappistofir: might not work at all.  but wine IEXPLORE.EXE should do the trick if it's going to work at all.05:51
LaptopZZHericus: they follow their 'linux for human beings' to a t, it really is useable more or less by non nerds05:51
LaptopZZHericus: but at the same time offers a fair amount of flexibility05:52
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ofirthanks , also xwine ieexplore.exe ?05:52
hmpedersenofir, ie6 wont install05:52
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LaptopZZofir: crossover office05:52
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HericusYes, yes..05:52
adrochow do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?05:52
LaptopZZofir: its your only option05:52
hmpedersencrossover might work...05:52
tirisanyone know how to run files from a remote server (I am trying to play music located on my server harddrive but the player on my local machine is not seeing the files. The remote machine is a Linux BOX)?05:52
HericusBrb. Something is wrong.05:52
LaptopZZadios05:53
mebsdwhy not just run windows instead of wine05:53
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iG3ncan someone please help, I get this error when I try to install ANY package, it happened after I install webcamd... http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste05:53
trappistadroc: ifconfig <device> promisc05:53
freddie_jason were will i find that05:53
stef_ubu_epiaOH NOO!!!! Never ever let me setup a computer!! STUPID ME!!05:53
_oPhello all, was wondering if there would be a possibility to have something simular ro the ubuntu live for games, so u can boot a complete os from cd and play enjoy the game with linux?05:53
_jasonfreddie, find what?05:53
LaptopZZiG3n: paste didn't work, try apt-get -f install05:53
stef_ubu_epiaOutput device in BIOS was set to TV!05:53
adrocthx05:53
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iG3ndoesn't work05:54
stef_ubu_epiaGot it running05:54
ofircost 65 dollars ...05:54
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freddie_jason this sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x1105:54
LaptopZZiG3n: well until we have a good paste, hard to say05:54
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ofircrossover office cost 65 dollars ...05:54
LaptopZZofir: its very good05:54
_jasonfreddie, you type that in a terminal, apt-get is like synaptic on the command line05:54
trappistofir: best $65 you'll ever spend on software.  it's awesome.05:54
iG3nhttp://channels.debian.net/paste/129405:54
_jason!info gsfonts-x1105:54
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LaptopZZofir: crossover office runs a lot of programs very well05:54
dePOLLHi. I'm looking for some tool to easily convert a xcursor file to an animated gif or to create an animated gif out of a series of single pngs. i feel like gimp is a bit of an overkill for that task :)05:54
ubotugsfonts-x11: (Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.17ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 116 kB05:54
iG3nLaptopZZ: ttp://channels.debian.net/paste/129405:54
freddie_jason weres the termnal05:55
trappistdePOLL: try imagemagick05:55
_jasonfreddie, app menu -> accessories05:55
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mebsdis ubuntu better than debian??05:55
LaptopZZiG3n: hm you broke it bad05:55
trappistmebsd: of course.05:55
LaptopZZiG3n: apt-get update; apt-get -f install05:55
iG3ndoesn't fix it05:56
_jasonmebsd, for some people, what really amtters is if it's better for you :)05:56
ofirthe only money i spent on software yet was win95 at 9t cosy me 120 $05:56
ofir")05:56
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LaptopZZiG3n: apt-get install --reinstall05:56
ofirat 9805:56
occySo I guess I'm the only person having problems with Ubuntu breezy.  Gnome barfing here and there, Firefox dies... bmp dies, rhytembox dies on me... xchat will go poof too.05:56
_oP@mebsd it has more implemented, like samba, also it is a little more easy to find support for newbies05:56
HericusBack.05:56
dePOLLtrappist: mh.. that means crawling through hundreds of command line options.. but i'll take a look, thx.05:56
HericusThe question isn't how.05:56
trappistofir: apparently ye olde wine isn't yet up to the task of running ie.  but cxoffice is pretty awesome.05:56
HericusOr is it..05:56
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iG3nnot good05:56
Hericus:-/05:56
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freddie_jason it sayes E: Unable to lock the list directory05:56
freddiefreddie@68-187-221-198:~$ apt-get install gsfonts-x1105:56
freddieE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:56
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LaptopZZiG3n: are you running hoary or what?05:56
stef_ubu_epiajowi: OK, addendum to the wiki: Make sure, the video out in the bios is set to CRT only, if CRT and TV is set, the monitor isn't detectet05:57
trappistfreddie: sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x1105:57
_jasonfreddie, you forgot the 'sudo' aprt in the beginning05:57
iG3nsays E:Unmet dependencies. Try using -f05:57
Neihi my ubuntu wine doesn't give access to my cdwriter to nero, how can I fix it?05:57
Neithe error message says05:57
_jasonubotu, tell freddie about sudo05:57
Neierr:aspi:SCSI_GetDeviceName Could not open HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi\Scsi Port 0\Scsi Bus 0\Target Id 1\Logical Unit Id 005:57
ofiri think i will go back to xp - that will end my suffers05:57
LaptopZZiG3n: hoary or breezy05:57
pipelineNei: I wouldn't expect that to work.05:57
trappistNei: probably need to tweak your wine config05:57
Neipipeline, it works fine on debian05:57
trappistpipeline: I've run nero in wine05:57
pipelineNei: Use the Nero ISO writer and burn the ISO with linux software.05:57
trappistbut05:57
jowistef_ubu_epia: that's it? that was what was wrong all along?05:57
hmpedersenNow.. I do hope Cedega runs in xandr..05:57
trappistnero makes a linux version too05:57
freddie_jason it say the same thing05:58
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iG3nYESSSSS05:58
LaptopZZtrappist: since when?05:58
Neipipeline, the nero image writer only produces proprietary images05:58
iG3nI fixed it!05:58
LaptopZZiG3n: what did u do?05:58
pipelineNei: That is not true.05:58
_jasonfreddie, close synaptic or any other installing program before running that command05:58
pipelineNei: And even if it were, they're easily converted.05:58
iG3napt-get -f --reinstall fixed it :)05:58
trappistLaptopZZ: http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html05:58
stef_ubu_epiaI think yes.... so i'll test my previously built kernel again with the via drivers05:58
LaptopZZiG3n: congrats05:58
Neipipeline, how do I convert a nrg to iso?05:58
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pipelineNei: It is true that by default, it produces the nero format, but it is indeed possible on the "full" version of nero to burn regular isos.05:58
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pipelineNei: nrg2iso05:59
_oP@ofir what seems to be the trouble05:59
nlindbladSeveas, are you with us?05:59
Seveasnlindblad, half05:59
LaptopZZtrappist: hmm $20, not bad, gnomebaker seems to work reasonably well for me though05:59
nlindbladSeveas, update on my rootish-problems05:59
stef_ubu_epiajowi: so the via drivers are buggy insofar, that the detection of the correct output device fails if not set to CRT only05:59
trappistLaptopZZ: it's all about the k3b05:59
freddie_jason im not installing any thing05:59
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nlindbladSeveas, I remember now, that I was prompted to set a root-password during the install05:59
ofirmy mother can not enter her bank acount with firefox06:00
LaptopZZtrappist: heh whatever floats your boar06:00
LaptopZZboat06:00
_jasonfreddie, why not?06:00
xirtusanyone here know a good 64bit compatible dvd shrink program for linux?06:00
Seveasnlindblad, server install i guess06:00
nlindbladSeveas, I thought it was weird back then but I didn't think that much about it06:00
Neipipeline, thanks I'll try that, but still it should work :/06:00
nlindbladSeveas, no, a regular installation06:00
trappistLaptopZZ: yeah right.  everyone knows it's the best.  just like kde is the best desktop environment.06:00
jowistef_ubu_epia: just booted fresh. for me the wiki works flawless. perfect dri rendering. with all correct options. seems like there is a bug in the via driver for sure. I've CRT+TV, PAL, AGP as primary device.06:00
freddie_jason i mean im not trying to install any thing06:00
LaptopZZtrappist: hah, I'm fine with gnome06:00
Seveasnlindblad, regular ubuntu install has never asked for a root pw06:00
pipelineNei: Well, you could write the ISO Directly >:(06:00
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pipelineNei: Also, there's a variety of decent native software06:00
Neinero should be able to find my cd writer06:00
nlindbladSeveas, might I've invoked a function?06:00
iG3nis it easy to get bootsplash to work on ubuntu?06:01
ofiri am spending hours in installig software06:01
ofirnot everything is working06:01
LaptopZZiG3n: it takes effort to get rid of it06:01
Neiwhich native software supports nrg natively?06:01
_jasonfreddie, to get flash to display properly, I thnik you will need that package.  I have tha package installed myself, it is from main.  It's perfectly fine.06:01
Seveasnlindblad, can't imagine which if you didn't do a server install06:01
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ubu_on_epiajowi, that's how it looks here06:01
iG3nthats alright06:01
nlindbladSeveas, I did the regular one06:01
SeveasiG3n, ubuntu uses usplash06:01
antgelwhen i do /etc/init.d/networking restart, it hangs. is this supported?  i don't want to have to use the gnome gui to do this06:01
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ubu_on_epia:~$ glxinfo | grep rendering06:01
ubu_on_epia__driCreateNewScreen_20050727 - succeeded06:01
ubu_on_epiadirect rendering: Yes06:01
nlindbladSeveas, I'm sure06:01
iG3nI really want it06:01
LaptopZZupgrade to breezy06:01
jowiubu_on_epia: perfect06:01
LaptopZZyou can have it06:01
Neianyway although some software like k3b is close, nero is still better06:01
trappistNei: nerolinux06:01
SeveasiG3n, get the ubuntu kernel source, patch it, compile06:02
iG3nit's not working06:02
iG3ndo I have to apt-get it06:02
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ubu_on_epiaThanks for all the fish .;-D06:02
Seveasyes, and manually patch and compile06:02
iG3ncan you give me though it?06:02
Neitrappist, are you sure? anyway nerolinux sucks06:02
freddie_jason i cant read it cause the wordes dont show up06:02
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SeveasiG3n, no06:02
zauberHi.. having trouble with iptables on my ubuntu server. I have a client whose firewall won't allow him to use port 22 (don't ask why - I don't get the answer...). Anyhow, I thought I could use iptables on the server to route all requests on port 2222 to 22 (say that ten times:) ) I tried a one liner but it doesn't seem to be working. May I paste it?06:02
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jowiubu_on_epia: you're welcome man. nice to know that the wiki was ok.06:02
_oP@ofir try to switch pipelining off type in adress bar about:config and scroll down to network.http.pipelining and deactivate it06:02
ubu_on_epiabut at least the howto is now perfectly proven06:02
Seveaszauber, sure06:02
nlindbladSeveas, will recovery be a pain in the ass?06:02
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zaubersudo /sbin/iptables -t=nat -p tcp --dport 2222  -j DNAT --to 213.136.36.202:2206:02
jowiubu_on_epia: will add the crt+tv issue in the troubleshooting section06:02
Seveasnlindblad, boot from a live cd, reset the root password06:03
_oPmaybe it will help06:03
nlindbladSeveas, considering root isn't permitted to log in and no user is in the admin-group06:03
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_jasonfreddie, I've told you, to fix that problem I think you will need to install gsfonts-x11.  If you don't want to do that then I don't what else to suggest.06:03
zauberwoops.. wrong one (btw - the ipadress is not to my server - so dont try)06:03
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nlindbladSeveas, boot: recovery ?06:03
Seveasnlindblad, livecd is a different environment06:03
Seveasnot recovery mode, you need a live cd06:03
nlindbladoh06:03
Hoxzercan I somehow see from open office how many words I have into my text?06:03
zauber$ sudo /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2222  -j DNAT --to 213.136.36.202:2206:03
nlindbladSeveas, you mean chroot?06:03
Seveasyup06:03
zauberthats the one I thought would work...06:03
nlindbladSeveas, okey06:04
freddie_ i want to install it but i dont no how06:04
iG3nhow do I capture images off a usb webcam?06:04
trappistzauber: you want -j REDIRECT --to-ports 2206:04
iG3nov511 driver06:04
freddie_jason i want to install it but i dont no how06:04
Seveaszauber, echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward06:04
zaubertrappist: great! I'll try that06:04
_jasonfreddie, okay, can you use the search function in synaptic?  Search for 'gsfonts-x11' and install it.06:04
Seveas-j DNAT is good06:04
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khermansHOw can I add /usr/local/lib to my library path?06:05
trappistzauber: I'm assuming you're doing this on the same box he wants to ssh to06:05
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ofir:) i am too tired of trying things , thanks for the help06:05
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khermansI have a program that is not finding libtiff3, that i installed manually06:05
zaubertrappist: yes06:05
trappistkhermans: add it to /etc/ld.so.conf06:05
_oP:)06:05
steve_hey can someone explain how to access apt-get?06:05
zauberseveas, do you mean echo 1> /proc...06:05
Seveaskhermans, echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.so.conf && sudo ldconfig06:05
steve_where do I need to go inorder to input commands?06:06
Seveaszauber, ehm, yeah06:06
trappistkhermans: what Seveas said06:06
khermansSeveas, thanks!06:06
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_oP@steve_ u mean use it? try apt-cache search + what u are looking for then apt-get install + what u need ...06:06
ofireven the bitorrent does not working06:06
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zauberSeveas... I get permission denied when doing that. even when sudoing. do you need to be real root for that?06:07
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_oP@ofir do u use a firewall ? like firestarter ? or router?06:07
LaptopZZtrappist: k3b has gotten a lot better06:07
LaptopZZtrappist: very nice06:07
freddie_jason thx 1 owe u 106:07
trappistzauber: are you sure you got the file right?06:07
_jasonfreddie, np06:07
trappistLaptopZZ: I like it better than anything on win3206:07
LaptopZZtrappist: gnomebaker kept crashing on load, it looks really nice06:07
tirisAnyone know how network drives are mounted in this distro I don't see anything in the /mnt/ dir?06:07
zauberSeveas: yes, I can paste two lines if its ok (command and result)06:08
LaptopZZtrappist: yeah I'll stick with this06:08
trappisttiris: try /media06:08
ubu_on_epiajowi, just booted my previous kernel again (with fb-support compiled in) and it works as well06:08
ofiri have conection my problem is installing stuff and not seeing sites corectly with fire fox06:08
mindframeanyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the wifi to work :(06:08
tech9inermisfit_toy you up chum?06:08
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jowiubu_on_epia, stef_ubu_epia: gonna shutdown this comp and login on my real one. brb. ahh, that is great news06:08
misfit_toyhey tech9iner , just sat down06:08
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Seveaszauber, echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/.....06:08
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steve_like how do you get to it?06:08
ofiralso the bitorrent asking me to find a meta file06:09
jordo23What's the command to tell if you are connected to a domain?06:09
steve_OP: how do you get to the apt-get input?06:09
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ubu_on_epiajowi, thanks again, and #we had a lot of fun' hadn't we ?06:09
steve_OP: I cant seem to find it06:09
tiriscdrom and floppy are there. but not the network drives. I gained access to the network drives using Places>Connect to server  if that helps.06:09
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deflux-Is there any decent howto's for wine on ubuntu?06:09
jowiubu_on_epia: it was interesting. best thing is that you now have a proper system! btw, did your boot-time improve?06:09
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tech9inertiming is EVerythang eh misfit_toy ;] 06:10
D1YAY!!!!!06:10
steve_OP: Like where do I input apt-get MPlayer06:10
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D1FILEZILLA RUNS ON UBUNTU!06:10
steve_or something like that06:10
D1the linux version that is....06:10
android_what version of macromedia dreamweaver works on crossover office?06:10
jowiubu_on_epia: my boot time went from 65 to 35 seconds.06:10
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stef_ubu_epiajowi: of course.... got rid of evms and lvm as well :-D06:10
misfit_toytech9iner, heh, so you have come over to the dark side have you?06:10
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_oP@steve_ what are u searching for? trying to install, have u tryed --> System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager its very easy prog to search and instal stuff06:10
Neihow hard is it to get scsi emulation work on ubuntu? according to winehq I need that06:10
zauberSeveas that seems to have done the trick - still, the server is not responding on port 222206:10
zaubereven after rerunning the iptables command06:11
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trappistzauber: if you're not flushing your rules, you need to use -I instead of -A to put the new rule at the beginning of the chain06:11
Seveaszauber, did you install the ssh server?06:11
jowistef_ubu_epia: i think that you can leave crt+tv if you start breezy installer with "linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false pci=noacpi" actually. but then framebuffer will be off. it was a hit and miss really. very good troubleshooting stef06:12
zaubertrappist: thats probably it06:12
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zauberSeveas: yes, ssh works fine on port 22 as it should06:12
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stef_ubu_epiajowi: very good help on ur side as well...06:12
Seveaszauber, iptables -t NAT -L -v06:12
Seveasoutput -> pastebin06:13
trappist-t nat06:13
krikeyhow can I reconfigure the resolution in Ubuntu?06:13
steve_oP: well I would like to install MPlayer although it isnt shown in the Add/Remove programs06:13
zauberSeveas: what does that do?06:13
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jowistef_ubu_epia: you're the first person to try the wiki as far as i know. it's only been up for a week :)06:13
Seveaszauber, it lists the rules in the nat table06:13
zauber(the L and v)06:13
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Seveasdon't forget to take trappist's suggestion06:13
trappistL for list, v for verbose06:13
krikeyive tried the system/preferences/screen res but this only gives me 620x48006:13
krikeyalso I have a dual monitor setup06:14
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frafrahi all06:14
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jowibrb06:14
stef_ubu_epiac u06:14
ubuntu_Hi06:14
fraframy friend have sent me an email, cripted with gpg06:14
dmitriy-Xhow to install the cd driver ?06:15
frafraI've imported the key, but I don't know how decrypt it06:15
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krikeywhats the default root password?06:15
krikeyafter install06:15
ubuntu_Does any one no where I could download free MP306:15
Seveas!tell krikey about root06:15
Seveasubuntu_, google for 'creative commons music'06:15
nadia007can you have a win xp box authenticate users on a ubuntu server?06:15
tech9ineryepper.. i can recall all the numerous friges with had inside and out in barn n garages and henhouse n such on ks farm when a kid.. nuttin stopped them for decades..06:15
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dmitriy-Xhow to play file .mp3 while using ubuntu linux OS ?06:16
Seveasnadia007, with samba06:16
kane__hey How are you?06:16
Seveas!tell dmitriy-X about mp306:16
DRK13nuttin but a g-thing/06:16
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albackerdmitriy-X, use xmms or beep-media-player06:16
krikeyso how do I reconfigure ubuntu with the right monitor types and resolutions?06:16
DRK13I like beep06:16
Seveas!tell krikey about fixres06:16
DRK13beep beep!06:16
DRK13you can use winamp skins for beep06:17
frafrathe mail starts with --BEGIN PGP MESSAGE--06:17
frafraI don't know how decrypt it06:17
albackeryes thats true,06:17
frafrawho can help me?06:17
nadia007seveas, I'm trying to setup an ubuntu box as server in a win environment.  Ubuntu would be the only server.  Know of any resources that can help?06:17
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trappistfrafra: what email client06:17
albackerbut i like the default skin, and i like more something functional than something good-looking.06:17
Seveasfrafra, save it to file and run gpg --decrypt < filename06:17
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Seveasnadia007, the samba docs & website :)06:18
steve_can anyone inform me as to how to get MPlayer installed on ubuntu?06:18
frafraI've download the mail with a mail client, I'm on the web interface of google06:18
zauberSeveas. & trappist. thanks for the tips! but It still doesn't quite seem to be doing it right, looking in the list of rules I now have target "REDIRECT", prot "tcp", "any" on in and out, "anywhere" for source and dest, plus the info: "tcp dpt:2222 redir ports 22"06:18
trappistfrafra: paste it into a text file and decrypt it per Seveas's suggestion06:18
nadia007seveas, I thought samba was just for file sharing?06:18
Jowiubu_on_epia: updating the wiki now. if you wish me to add anything in particular feel free to tell me.06:19
kane__!tell steve_ try using synaptic package manager06:19
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zauberSeveas & trappist: and its not responding to ssh requests on 2222, but it is responding on 2206:19
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_oPyum just eating scampis and ships, carbohydrates and proteins good brain food yum yum06:19
trappistzauber: toes it timeout, or do you get connection refused, or what?06:19
zauber(ie I can log in when using the regular port)06:19
Seveaszauber, -j REDIRECT won't work, you need -j DNAT06:19
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zaubertrappist: timeout06:19
zauberSeveas, ok06:19
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trappist-j REDIRECT was invented just for this06:19
Seveasnadia007, samba can also be the domain server06:19
steve_kane: how? what do you have to do, I search for Mplayer although it doesnt come up with any results06:19
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albackersteve_, apt-get install mplayer-..  try doing unaame-a and se ethe number there. it should be 686, 386, 586, k7..06:20
frafrano openpgp data found, it says06:20
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nadia007seveas, thanks... I'll do some reading.06:20
blaaman1steve_: Perhaps you need to add an repository ?06:20
dmitriy-Xi want play need for speed most wanted using ubuntu linux Os, but i dont know how to install it. Can Someone help me ?06:20
_oP@blaaman1 true06:20
frafrahow to decrypt it?06:21
kane__does anyone know how to make linux read my NTFS hdd?? Is there a way?06:21
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Kazidheasteve_: if you understand french here is a very good howto http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1708706:21
albackerdmitriy-X, you can play TUX-racer that is as COOL as need for speed underground.. but tuxracer has a great graphic. and its free !06:21
Seveaskane__, system -> admin -> disks06:21
alexissofthi06:21
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Zoohousewhats the name of a kde app that changes the screen resolution?06:22
Riddellkrandr06:22
Riddellkrandrtray06:22
_oP@kane__ firs u have to find out ur connected hdds with sudo fdisk -l06:22
SeveasRiddell, do you have a trigger on kde? :)06:22
kane__Seveas, Ialready tried it, mounted the disk to /media/hda1/ but there is nothing inside...06:22
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GameCathi06:22
Seveaskane__, what does ls /media/hda1 say?06:22
_oPthen mount /dev/hd* + 123445 -t ntfs /path like /media/windows, but u have to create the directory first06:23
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kane__Seveas, nothing it's empty06:23
GameCatcan anyone tell me if Zend Studio Professional will run on (k)ubuntu? it requires glibc 2.1 apparently, and I'm unsure if I have that or not :)06:23
Seveasno error?06:23
sebastianWhen I run Apache and put in my external IP address  I get a blank page.   I think the reason for this is, because I get my IP address from DHCP.  and that I need to set up a static ip address  for Ubuntu,  ,but   I am not sure how to do that.   I was told also that my multi boot with XP can still use DHCP.  and all other computers on the network can use DHCP.  and Ubuntu can use the static06:23
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Seveaskane__, put the output of the command 'mount' on the pastebin06:23
pipelineGameCat: It should work.06:24
GameCatpipeline: lovely, thnaks06:24
_oP@kane_ http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs and http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs06:24
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frafraIt doesn't decrypt the txt file that I've created pasting the text of the mail. Who can help me?06:24
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_jasonfrafra, if you use thunderbird there is an extension that will make gpg easy... you just click and it does what you want06:25
thoreauputic!ubuntuguide06:25
ubotuubuntuguide is probably an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.06:25
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thegladiatorhi06:25
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thegladiatori installed mozilla internet application suite06:25
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thegladiatorwhere can i find it ?06:25
_jasonthegladiator, is it under the internet menu?06:25
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thegladiator_jason, no i can nly see firefox there06:26
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blaamannthegladiator: Maybe you need to restart Gnome06:26
sktrdiehow do I take away06:26
_jasonthegladiator, did you refresh the panel? (killall gnome-panel)06:26
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thegladiatorok i will try that06:26
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sktrdieGDM starts everytime automatically... I don't want that06:26
sktrdie!06:26
ubotusktrdie: Do they come in packets of five?06:26
sktrdiehow do I take it off?06:26
zauberSeveas & Trappist: using DNAT or REDIRECT gives same problem... I wonder .. there should be some iptables command to log an attempted connection right? You know what that would look like? seems like I'll need to do some dbugging...06:26
markivei can't get airsnort to work :(#06:26
bshumatezauber: if you're going to be connecting to your sshd on the non-standard port of 2222 anyway, why not simply edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config, change the 'Port' directive to 2222 and restart sshd with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart, and be done with it?06:27
trappistzauber: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2222 -j LOG --log-prefix "ssh attempt: "06:27
Hericusmarkive, you can however tell us what error message you get.06:27
kane__Seveas, there is no output... how do I do it...06:27
zauberbshumate: yea.. thought of that first... but, I want ssh to answer on 22 _also_ this "2222" business is mostly a hack for just one guy on an annoying firewall.06:28
xirtuslinux ist gay//] 06:28
trappistzauber: oh, also: iptables -I FORWARD -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT06:28
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trappistzauber: are you sure this guy can get out on 2222?06:28
iG3nhow can I make it so when someone logs into my system before you can type anything you have to type y/n after the motd?06:29
markiveHericus, i don't get an error message  , it just doesn't start scanning06:29
mindframeanyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the wifi to work :(06:29
iG3nlike to agree to my rules06:29
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zaubertrappist: yes, I have it from him that all ports above 1024 'can' be opened by his network administrator06:29
thegladiatorthe mozilla suite still doesnt exist06:29
bshumatezauber: ahhh...sounds like your chap cannot create outgoing traffic on 2222 then maybe?06:29
Seveasmindframe, cisco's create 2 interfaces, one with a good mac and one with a wrong mac06:29
kane__there is one more thing... Is there any way to somehow set up my other disk (fat32) because I have to use terminal and sudo command to copy/delete/move stuff...06:30
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_oPopen up terminal --> applications --> System Tools --> terminal and type in sudo fdisk -l then u will get a list of all hds connected, find out wich one is the ntfs and remember the hd* discription in front , then follow the instructions fiven06:30
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zaubertrappist : that first FORWARD thing I have not used. looks important - will try06:30
zauberbshumate: well no, not yet, but I'm testing from my own box...06:30
mindframeSeveas, so iwconfig shows eth1 and eth2, how do i delete one? (ifconfig only shows eth1)06:30
kane___oP, OK what now?06:31
iG3nhow can I make it so when someone logs into my system before you can type anything you have to type y/n after the motd?06:31
iG3nlike to agree to my rules06:31
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albackerthegladiator, add them manually,06:31
samletuneshello06:31
samletunese06:31
thegladiatoralbacker, from the add applications menu ?06:31
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albackerthegladiator, edit your menu, with smeg or add icons to your gnome panel !06:31
anthraxhey guys06:31
markivewifi radar works , b ut airsnort doesn't06:31
iG3nsomething to do with .login I think06:32
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anthraxanyone play css on linux?06:32
thegladiatoralbacker, i did this > i clicked on add remove applications and there i saw this mozilla and i clicked there to install06:32
trappistiG3n: first thing that comes to mind is to write a script that displays the motd, reads an acceptance then conditionally starts /bin/bash, and make that script the user's shell in /etc/passwd.06:32
HericusI don't.06:32
thegladiatorand it is there now06:32
thegladiatorwhy didnt it come after i ran synaptic?06:32
HericusYou do realise that there are a list of games that are availiable on linux.06:32
_oP@kane_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/06:32
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anthraxyes hericus06:32
albackerthegladiator, open smeg and theres the "new menu" button, click it, and youll see how easy it is.06:33
anthraxi was just interested to see if anyone played css :)06:33
iG3ntrappist: how do I do that?06:33
iG3ncan you help me please06:33
thegladiatoryep06:33
_oP@kane_ and search for fat06:33
_oP@kane_ or ntfs06:33
kane__anthrax, you mean cascade style sheet, yes I play that :D06:33
hmpedersenRight.. On 1 computer, kopete works fine.. On the other, it keeps saying password is incorrect..06:33
hmpedersennot that it matters, as i use gaim..06:34
thegladiatoralbacker, so each time after ysing synpaptic , shud i do that ? or will the menu get auto edited ? yum used to edit menu auto after a package was installed....what about synaptic ?06:34
hmpedersenjust interesting..06:34
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anthrax;p;06:34
anthraxlol even*06:34
DjLinXi have a wireless usb card and i was wondering if i could change the boot loader so that it would load it b4 it loaded network so that it would auto start when i log into linux... is this possible?06:34
albackerthegladiator, i dont have to edit my menu, but you might want to restart gnome-panel or wait a bit.. i dont use synaptic but i think the procedure is the same.06:35
thegladiatoralbacker, ok thanks06:35
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markiveAnyone know about airsnort? wifi radar works the card but airsnort does d jackshet06:35
zaubertrappist: nope... that did not do it either.... I wonder if iptables are doing anything at all, as I cant even get the logs to show up... *grrr*06:35
markivebe back in a  bit chaps06:35
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_oP@kane__ http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html06:36
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markivepm if you know about airsnort and i'll get back to you. thanks.06:36
trappistzauber: that makes me think it's not on your end... or, did you add the log rule with -I?  if you used -A it's probably getting eaten by existing rules.06:36
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_oP@kane__ Chapter 5. Windows Partitions06:36
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thoreauputic.opme06:37
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GameCatpipeline: Zend does indeed work - thanks for the reassurance :)06:37
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kane___oP, thx a lot...06:37
norskfjordhow can I capture images off a usb webcam with console?06:37
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albacker.opme2 :P06:38
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_oP@kane__ np have fun learining :)06:38
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ebucisthnx06:38
kane___oP sure I will...06:38
kane___oP there06:39
defiance`Hmm.06:39
norskfjordI want to capture an image every 30 seconds and save it in /var/www06:39
defiance`this is really nice, three monitors on one computer. :-)06:39
kane___oP there's lot to learn (for me)06:39
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_oP@kane__ same here, just started06:39
zaubertrappist: I used -I... you may be right... I've had similar problems getting the server to serve mysql. Tried mucking about with iptables then too, to no avail.. the server _is_ hosted by a server-provider company (I'm working with some other people setting it up for production use) but they promise that their firewalls are not in the way. I think I'll give up for now and have the manager growl at them a bit instead. thanks all the same for the help!06:39
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kane___oP But from what I see now I like it better than WinXP06:40
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DjLinXi have a wireless usb card and i was wondering if i could change the boot loader so that it would load it b4 it loaded network so that it would auto start when i log into linux... is this possible?06:40
juliuxis there any mirror for the dapperflight2 iso?06:40
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_oP@kane__ that is the right spirit !06:41
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zauberfinal question, can sshd per chance be told to listen to both 22 and 2222 in the config file?06:41
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zauber...or why dont I just try and see..;)06:41
zaubersorry for all the Q06:41
Jowiubu_on_epia: wanna try something?06:42
HericusLter.06:42
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trappistzauber: you could run two instances of it06:42
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kyncanizauber: what about using iptables to redirect port 2222 to port 22 ?06:42
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trappistkyncani: hehe we just went through that06:42
bshumatezauber: Port may be used multiple times, yes06:42
zauberkyncani: did you miss the discussion ;)06:42
rosenCan anyone tell me why my downloads halts at 100% when downloading from a windows-box on the network ?06:42
_oP@kane__ also i must confess that i am using dual boot windows and ubuntu, only reason i need windows is for games, also there are emulator for playing games on linux it is never the same like on windows *newer games06:43
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trappistrosen: sounds like a good place to halt06:43
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steve_ok how do you setup XPlay in ubuntu?06:43
steve_or Mplayer rather06:43
steve_do i need to setup a depository or something?06:43
steve_and if so how?06:43
rosentrappist, it would be if it would complete it .. but as it is now it just starts to idle06:43
kyncanizauber: he ;) sorry :)06:43
Seveas!tell steve_ about mplayer06:43
_oP@steve_ i use vlc it can play everthing06:43
trappistrosen: sounds like a windows problem06:43
soundrayrosen, a write problem at the destination, e.g. disk full06:43
kane___oP well I'm on dualboot as well because there aren't any tools for video editing (Adobe Premiere)06:43
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rosensoundray, I have plenty of room06:44
soundrayrosen, have you got write permission in the target dir?06:44
saik0how would I extract a bunch of zip files from the CLI?06:44
_oP@kane__ dunno maybe u can do this with crossover office but i am not into video editing06:44
steve_is there a way to sync with your ipod?06:44
rosensoundray, yeah I even tried doing it as root06:44
trappistrosen: how long have you given it?  windows likes to put large downloads in a temp directory and then move them to the destination06:44
trappistwait, as root on a windows box?06:44
saik0would I have to script it?06:45
cowbudsteve_: banshee or rhythmbox at the very least..06:45
rosentrappist, no ... I'm downloading FROM a windowsbox TO my linuxbox06:45
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trappisteh.06:45
trappistrosen: using what protocol06:45
rosentrappist, I have no idea ... cp I guess ;)06:45
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trappistrosen: I'll rephrase - how are you downloading it.06:45
bshumatesaik0:  for i in 1ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done06:45
bshumatesaik0: err s/l|s/ls06:46
rosentrappist, I connect to his machine by simply typing in his computername (we're on a lan) and then just cope paste06:46
Logannhttp://www.logann34.ht.cx <--- GET TO !!!06:46
rosencopy*06:46
Logannhttp://www.logann34.ht.cx <--- GET TO !!!06:46
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yatesyLogann: bugger off06:46
yatesydamn :/06:46
ClayGI had spammers06:46
ClayGand hate them06:46
bshumatesaik0: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done06:46
trappistnever had a spammer myself.  you can keep em.06:47
Tikakanjust curious, is anyone online who implanted a new HD into a 1G iPod?06:47
rosenplaces --> connect to server06:47
bshumatefrozen fingers type poorly! ;-)06:47
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kane___oP Hey it works... I see my HDD :DD06:47
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kane___oP THX06:47
saik0bshumate works =)06:47
zauberheh... flushed the firewalls, set ssh to listen to both 22 and 2222, restarted, checked with netstat that its listening... and STILL only answers on 22 and not 2222. something is definitely wrong with the provider...06:47
zauberthanks all for the help. its been educational!06:48
zaubergotta go.06:48
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TikakanI would love to get some help too ;)06:48
trappistTikakan: have you asked an on-topic question?06:48
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bshumateTikakan: sounds like you need a channel devoted to iPods for that Q06:49
Tikakanah06:49
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TikakanI thought its ubuntu related, because I tried to partition the hd under ubuntu-live on a powerbook06:49
JemtGreetings. I want to install Java for Firefox - but I can't find 'sun-j2re1.5' anymore. Only ver. 1.4 - how come ?06:50
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_oP@kane__ cheers06:50
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korhalf|workbah, i forgot im logged in at home06:50
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NgJemt: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page06:51
korhalf|workthere06:51
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JemtNg: Ok06:51
JemtNg > It also says ver. 1.4.. Odd06:52
GhisdavQuelqu'un peut-il m'aider  configurer grub sous ubuntu ?06:52
korhalfGhisdav, si peut etre dans ton interesse de joine #ubuntu-fr06:52
korhalfc'est*06:52
korhalfta*06:52
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korhalfk je sais pas la langue francaise, mais va au #ubuntu-fr06:53
trappisthaha06:53
trappistsure you don't06:53
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korhalflol06:53
korhalfGhisdav, que-est ce que vous voulez faire?06:53
soundraykorhalf, see, you scared him away :)06:54
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korhalfyeh, i think i said the wrong things lol06:54
nlindbladSeveas, greetings from the LiveCD06:54
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nlindbladI've changed the password by chrooting into my old system06:55
nlindbladI'm just wondering what the sudoers should be in for a group06:55
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nlindbladsince I guess Ubuntu doesn't use a wheel-group06:55
idefixis it possible to add programs to "Applications/Places/System" ?06:56
sambagirlwhat is a wheel-group?06:56
trappistnlindblad: %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL  <-- should already be in your sudoers file06:56
trappistsambagirl: some distros call the administrative group 'wheel'06:57
DjLinXHow can i get my wireless usb card to start up activated...06:57
sambagirlahh06:57
paguxhello ubuntoers06:57
sambagirlok06:57
bur[n] eranyone know if there's a way to get update-manager to show you the old version of the package it's upgrading?06:57
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paguxsambagirl: hi06:57
sambagirldoes anyone know what TwistOS is?06:57
pagux:-)06:57
sambagirlchao pagux06:57
nlindbladtrappist, it is not06:57
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nlindbladtrappist, what about the group?06:58
paguxi rare 2 find girls using linux :-)06:58
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nlindbladtrappist, 'admin' ?06:58
ClayGanyone have anything for modding phones? like pktools pkman etc for linux?06:58
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trappistnlindblad: well that's part of why I pasted it... now you can add it :)  just add an admin group (if it doesn't exist) and add whatever users to that group.06:58
xirtushey, does anyone know a good place to find 64 bit programs?06:58
xirtusat least compatible06:58
paguxhow do i change bootsplash of ubuntu ?06:58
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nlindbladtrappist, yepp, but what about the name, should it be 'admin' and does it need a specific UID?06:58
nlindbladGID06:59
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trappistnlindblad: just 'admin' - you're not specifying a gid in sudoers06:59
sambagirlisnt it called wiki.org?06:59
nlindbladtrappist, okey then, thanks alot06:59
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trappistsambagirl: maybe you're looking for wiki.ubuntu.com?06:59
sambagirl no06:59
sambagirli want information on TwistOS06:59
TuntisWikipedia.org?06:59
sambagirlahh ok thank you07:00
idefixis it possible?07:00
paguxhow do i change bootsplash of ubuntu ?07:00
sambagirlwikipedia.org is not a rightwing trick is it?07:00
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Ngno it's just rubbish ;)07:00
trappistit is an agent of the bush administration07:00
ClayGahh, isn't everything07:00
paguxits rare 2 find girls using linux :-)07:00
sambagirlthat is my fear07:00
trappistsambagirl: don't worry.  that was a joke.07:01
korhalfpagux, i said that too at one point07:01
ClayGYeah until going to Efnet?07:01
soundrayNg, wanna pick a flamewar over my favourite encyclopedia?07:01
sambagirlok07:01
soundray:)07:01
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idefixwho is a girl here then?07:01
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ClayGer . I mean, there are loads of girls using Nix, beleive me07:01
bshumatesambagirl: it is a tool of the forthcoming ministry of information, designed to welcome humans into the new world order, and control by big brother. ;-)07:01
ClayGheheh07:01
Ngsoundray: nope :)07:01
Red-Soxsnorks?07:01
ClayG;)07:01
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sambagirlbtb07:01
sambagirlbrb07:01
trappistbshumate: I think the preferred nomenclature is 'ministry of reeducation'07:01
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soundrayidefix, not me, but there's one on my lap.07:02
ClayGSup Red-Sox07:02
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Red-SoxClayG: hi07:02
bshumatetrappist: per 1984? not sure about that...07:02
idefixis it possible to add programs to "applications/places/system"?07:02
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Red-SoxClayG: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for a sec07:02
soundrayidefix, I'm sure it's possible07:02
Red-Sox:)07:02
idefixsoundray: you've been watching too much "Reservoir Dogs"07:02
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ClayGim there cuzin07:02
Jowiubu_on_epia, wiki updated. added some more "troubleshooting" and a line or to in the "requirements" secion. hope that will help someone. my email is at the end of the wiki if you feel the need to add/change something.07:02
soundrayidefix, no, I've missed that one so far.07:02
DjLinXHow can i get my wireless usb card to start up activated...07:03
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soundrayidefix, and I was telling the truth.07:03
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soundrayidefix, my daughter is fascinated by Ubuntu.07:03
_jasonidefix, for app menu: use system tools -> menu editor, for palces menu: add a bookmark in nautilus07:03
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soundrayidefix, she's waiting her turn to play gcompris :)07:03
paguxhow do i change boot splash of ubuntu ?07:03
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nlindbladecho "admin:x:1004:nlindblad07:03
nlindblad" >> /etc/groups07:03
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JemtGreetz. I have downloaded and extracted Firefox 1.5 myself - and I have now installed Java from repositories - but Firefox still dosn't support Java. How can I make my Firefox use the Java packages from repositories ?07:03
_jasonJemt, make a symbolic link in the plugins directory07:04
AnswerHow can I turn up the logging of file changes system-wide ?07:04
soundraypagux, you can install xubuntu. The boot screen is nice and blue after that...07:04
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Jemt_jason: How is that done ?07:04
hmpedersenI cant say im impressed over Xandros.. Especially not their regional settings... (only possible languages being english and american)07:04
JemtPlease don't let me reboot into Windows - Please! :)07:04
xirtusso no one knows anywhere to get 64bit programs07:04
xirtus?07:04
soundrayxirtus, have you installed Ubuntu-amd64?07:05
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soundrayxirtus, it is chock full of 64 bit programs.07:05
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idefixsoundray: what is gcompris? is it a fun game?07:05
_jasonJemt, never :)  do you know where libjavaplugin.so is right now?07:05
soundrayidefix, for children, yes.07:06
Jemt_jason: Nope :/07:06
hmpedersenSoundray, you think it would make a difference if i tried downloading the amd64 disc? you did say the normal would install..07:06
DjLinXCan i change the way the modules are loaded on start up07:06
trappistI can't believe that after 30 years of life and 12 years of geekhood I'm just now discovering coffee07:06
_jasonJemt, okay, which java package did you install?07:06
idefixwhat games are good for us 29-year-old grandpa's?07:06
Jemt_jason: 'sun-re1.4' from repositories :)07:06
trappistidefix: quake4 and ut200407:06
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soundrayhmpedersen, remind me what the trouble was with your install.07:06
Jemtidefix: Tuxracer and Chromium! :)07:07
_oP@idefix only game i can suggest is world of warcraft !07:07
idefixdo they run under linux?07:07
soundrayidefix: typespeed. Educational! :)07:07
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_jasonJemt, okay that's blackdown's java right?  I don't know where that one installs to... but let's see if it made a symlink for firefox1.07.  Do you still have firefox1.07?07:07
paguxsoundray: no thanks i like gnome07:07
Jemt_jason: Blackdown, yes :)07:07
trappistidefix: yes07:07
paguxhi just install sun jre07:07
Oblivion^hello, when i try to play a song with mpd - or any music player for that matter - it gives me nothing but static noise. how can i fix that?07:07
Jemt_jason: Nope, I removed Firefox 1.0.207:07
_oP@idefix but u will need cedega for running that under linux07:07
Jemt_jason: Ubuntu 5.10 ships with 1.0.2 as fare as I remember07:08
idefixare the games expensive?07:08
paguxand make symlink to firefox plugin folder07:08
trappistidefix: quake4 sure is.  probably ut2004 too.07:08
Jemtpagux: I'm trying to figure out how :)07:08
hmpedersensoundtay, it freezes giving some extremely cryptic error messages, that doesnt really say error on a grey screen.. (in a lil darker grey text)07:08
soundrayidefix, free as in speech and beer.07:08
Jemtpagux: I don't know anything about these symbolic links :)07:08
_jasonJemt, heh ok, umm let me look some stuff up... it's easier with sun's java07:09
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kevinIs there anyone that can help me with:  I want place a data file on the Ubuntu computer and access it from two Windows 2000 compters.  I can't seem to logon to the Ubuntu computer from Win2k even though it can see it.  it asks for username/password.  even though i have set up users on the Ubuntu, it doesn't accept any log in?07:09
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soundrayhmpedersen, yeah, I remember reading this from you earlier.07:09
Jemt_jason: Ok :)07:09
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Jemt_jason: Thanks :)07:09
soundrayhmpedersen, a "call trace" isn't it?07:09
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ClayGkevin: samba sounds like what you need07:09
soundrayhmpedersen, I don't know what to say to that.07:09
hmpedersenyeah07:09
trappistkevin: you need to use smbpasswd to add samba users07:09
ClayGbut there is also another program called explore2fs07:09
diesel!mplayer07:09
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106107:09
_jasonJemt, while I do that, run: sudo updatedb (this will let us search for it)07:09
_oP@idefix 17.99 plus monthly about 6  07:09
ClayGI dont know how this works over networks07:09
Jemt_jason: Ok, great :)07:10
soundrayhmpedersen, but I suspect that amd64 isn't going to solve your problem.07:10
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hmpedersensoundray, well.. i had to install xandros.. Im running out of time.. have a guild meeting in swg in 2 hours, and itll take that long to update the game..07:10
soundrayhmpedersen, what triggers this?07:10
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_jasonJemt, let me know when that finishes07:10
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Jemt_jason: Ok :)07:10
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hmpedersensoundray, well.. its triggered either by sound or graphic during setup..07:10
soundrayhmpedersen, okay, so you've found a workaround.07:10
_oPbut it's damn really worth it!07:10
d03boyafter "upgrading" ubuntu I have two kernels on grub. The new one is 386 and the old is 586. Did I do something wrong?07:10
Tikakanbye07:10
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DjLinXHow can i change the way the modules are loaded on start up07:11
kevinwhere can i find smbpasswd?07:11
Jemt_jason: Done updating slocate database :)07:11
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_oPbut be careful, it seems to be addictive07:11
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hmpedersensoundray, yeah.. a workaround involving another system, that i really dont like.. Even though i payed $29 for it..07:11
_jasonJemt, locate javaplugin_oji.so07:11
soundrayhmpedersen, so you want to go back to Ubuntu when you have time?07:12
d03boyafter "upgrading" ubuntu I have two kernels on grub. The new one is 386 and the old is 586. Did I do something wrong?07:12
hmpedersenxandros looks nice.. but.. well.. looks can be deceiving..07:12
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xirtus hey spaced out, yeah i did, and there is, but i need more, like 64bit dvd ripper, ogle or at least menus, gltron or at least some 3d games, i mean honestly, i get get down for this whole socialized software thing, but i need more than just open office and solitare...07:12
Jemt_jason: I got several lines07:12
soundrayhmpedersen, they trick you into some sort of upgrade contract, don't they?07:12
Jemt_jason: Query ?07:12
hmpedersensoundray, im going to have the entire weekend to myself :) Plenty of time to mess around and ruin everything :D07:12
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_jasonJemt, okay, mind pastebinning them?07:12
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Jemt_jason: What is paste binning ?07:12
_jason!pastebin07:12
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:12
kyncanid03boy: if you don't want old packages to stay around, use debfoster. If you want a kernel optimized for your arch, use either linux-586, linux-686, ...07:12
Jemt!pastebin07:13
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hmpedersensoundray, well.. only way to get xandros is to buy it.. updates are free..07:13
JemtThanks :)07:13
nlindbladwee07:13
nlindbladsudo works again07:13
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soundrayhmpedersen, I assume your machine is unusable when it shows the call trace. Perhaps you should be ready to take a screenshot (with a proper camera) and pastebin it when you try the install again.07:13
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hmpedersenyeah07:14
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d03boykyncani, ok, I have the 386 installed, but lets say I want to install mplayer. Do I get the 386 one or the 586 one or the 686 one?07:14
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d03boybasically, does the program depend on the kerenl arch or not?07:14
idefixwhatever happened to cool games like flashback on the CAmiga?07:14
kyncanid03boy: 386 is generic, 586 is optimized for pentium, 686 for pentium-4 and above i think07:14
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hmpedersenheh.. reminds me of the tech that asked the user to take a screenshot of his desktop.. An hour later the user faxed a picture of his desktop with computer on it to the tech..07:14
Jemt_jason: Hmm, how do I copy from a terminal ?07:15
Jemt_jason: xterm og Eterm07:15
kevinCan anyone tell me where/how to invoke smbpasswd?07:15
d03boykyncani, but if my kernel isnt optimized, will the program itself still be optimized? how does that work?07:15
mebsdsmbpasswd07:15
_jasonJemt, try highlighting and then middle clicking to paste07:15
mebsddo you ever read manual? kevin07:15
Jemtmebsd: That dosn't enable the user - only assignes a password - try man07:15
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kyncanid03boy: don't worry, it works :)07:15
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_oPhave a question what is best for athlon 3000+ 200 fsb, i have a kernel for 386 what is the difference to 586?07:15
soundrayhmpedersen, "What's on your monitor right now?" "A pot of flowers"...07:15
kevinwhere is the manual?07:15
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mebsdman smbpasswd07:16
Jemt_jason: Dosn't work - probably because it's a scroll-button07:16
d03boykyncani, ok, one more thing. Thanks.07:16
kevinthanks07:16
Jemt_jason: Never mind - typing them myself :)07:16
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hmpedersensoundray heh07:16
Oblivion^how come i get nothing but white noise when i try to play an mp3 file ?07:16
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LoPMXhmm, is there any way to increase the speed of ajax requests? i mean, it's blazingly fast on let's say google, and on my page it works pretty slow, my boss gets nervous about this07:16
_jasonJemt, try middle clicking in gedit07:16
JemtOk07:16
trappist_oP: i586 has a bigger instruction set, and you'll see a little performance increase in apps compiled for i586.  especially graphics stuff.07:16
_jasonJemt, or 'cd ~/Desktop' and then: 'locate javaplugin_oji.so > results.txt'07:17
_oP@trappist cool thanks good to know07:17
paguxany hot babes here using linux ;-)07:17
hmpedersensoundray, wonder how long itll be before a fossil like me is not considered fit to use a computer anymore :P07:17
LoPMXehhh not here07:17
trappist_oP: you could do even better compiling for athlon07:17
Jemt_jason: Oh yea, better :)07:17
d03boyis it easy to config my kernel to be optimized for i586?07:17
hmpedersencant even remember what i did to make xandr install this time..07:17
diesel!w32codecs07:17
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Jemt_jason: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/578507:18
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kyncanid03boy: well, as easy as installing linux-586 :)07:18
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kyncanid03boy: nothing to configure :)07:18
soundraypagux, wasn't there once a Linux distro for girls? With a fortune db displaying beauty tips on login?07:18
_oPcheers need some more booz07:18
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d03boykyncani, well, I used apt-get dist-upgrade and it installed a 386 kernel when I have a P407:19
mmarle#edubuntu07:19
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soundrayd03boy, apt-get install linux-68607:19
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mebsdcompile your own kernel07:20
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foxpaulhi all. i've posted a thread in ubuntu forums, but still struggling. can anyone take a look at it and maybe comment? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=576844&posted=1#post57684407:20
kyncanid03boy: to use a 586 linux kernel, first install linux-586, then boot it, then remove linux-386 (and use debfoster to clean old kernel)07:20
d03boymebsd, i'm too scared07:20
_jasonJemt, strange, I see no blackdown... um do 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so'07:20
cowbudmebsd meh why?07:20
mebsddon't be scare07:20
Jemt_jason: Ok07:20
mebsdscared of what07:20
_oP@mebsd risky risky07:20
mebsdlinux is about that big kernel07:20
d03boyscared that I will break it, then not have time to fix it before class07:20
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SanderDI've got 4 primary partitions now, but I want a fifth partition. can I remove one, change that into an extended partition and insert two logical partitions in it?07:21
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idefixare sh-files like exe-files in windows/dos?07:21
_jasonJemt, you can paste that here, it should only be one line07:21
cowbudidefix more like .bat files07:21
idefixic07:21
trappistfoxpaul: need more information than that.  for example, are these boxes on the same network? how are you trying to connect? etc.07:21
mebsdsh-file is more like bat-like07:21
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kyncanid03boy: it won't break, but if now is not a good time, "upgrade" later07:21
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d03boyok07:21
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Jemt_jason: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/578707:22
Oblivion^what stuff do i need to play mp3 files in bash?07:22
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wijkyncani                          can i use 686 on a sempron socket A model 8 ?07:22
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_jasonJemt, do you *want* to use blackdown?  because I don't see it, but you have sun's java there07:22
cowbudOblivion^ play filename.mp307:22
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d03boywij, what the hell is a sempron?07:23
Jemt_jason: I just want the Java that is installed :)07:23
trappistwij: I believe 686 is intel-specific07:23
cowbudOblivion^ although I don't know if that is installed by default give it a go..07:23
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Jemt_jason: .. from repositories :)07:23
wijSempron is AMD07:23
_jasonJemt, ok, where did you put firefox?07:23
Oblivion^cowbud: i want to run mpd, and when i play an mp3 file with mpg321 or mpd it gives me nothing but white noise07:23
soundraywij, you want to optimize for k707:23
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Jemt_jason: /programs/firefox/07:23
trappist!tell Oblivion^ about mp307:23
RickerI'm trying to connect to my ubuntu box after setting up a home folder with read/write permission as per the ubuntu instructions.  I editing the smb.conf file, I can see the server in my XP box, but when I try to login with the same account that I use when I login to the ubuntu box, XP just keeps bringing the authentication/password box back up as if I'm not getting the password right.  any ideas?07:24
Jemt_jason: Yes, I know it is an odd place :)07:24
trappistRicker: you need to use smbpasswd to set up samba users07:24
Oblivion^trappist: isn't that only for X?07:24
trappistno07:24
_jasonJemt, ln -s /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so /programs/firefox/plugins/07:24
Rickertrappist. oh ok...I never did that... I wish that was in the ubuntu userguide07:24
_jasonJemt, close firefox07:25
Oblivion^trappist: because i've tried that and it wanted to install about 100 packages extra with a total of 108 mb, so i thought it was some x thing07:25
Jemt_jason: Ok, trying that :)07:25
trappistOblivion^: yeah there are a lot of dependencies07:25
Oblivion^trappist: ah, ok, i'll hit yes then07:25
Jemt_jason: Done - testing firefox now..07:26
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Oblivion^trappist: oh now i see, most of it is perl. but it wants gtk too07:26
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Jemt_jason: Wohoo, It works. Great ! You are 'l33t' :)07:26
_jasonJemt, ha ok07:26
canindyaanybody developing struts application in eclipse on ubuntu?07:27
Jemt_jason: Thank you SO much for using this much time on me :)07:27
Rickertrappist: I issued sudo smbpasswd, it asked me for the password twice which I entered.  It accepted it and put me back to the prompt.  I still get the same problem when I try to login.  to I need to restart the samba server?07:27
_jasonJemt, np07:27
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_oPa noob question what would i have to learn if i wanted to create a cd like the ubuntu live cd so i can play my favorite games on ms stations without having to install something?07:27
trappistRicker: I assume you're trying to connect with your own username and the password you just entered?07:27
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cowbud_op google knoppix customization there are lots of pages out htere on how to do it..07:28
soundray_oP, you should look at the dfsbuild package07:28
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trappistRicker: oh! if you just do sudo smbpasswd you'll be running it as root and adding a root entry.  sudo smbpasswd -a <username>07:28
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Rickertrappist: right on ok I'll try that07:28
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Oblivion^trappist: it s x, it's installing x-common, x11 and gnome aswell07:29
_oPyeah  ,thanks07:30
kane__http://home.erin.utoronto.ca/~jbonham/linuxwarez.html for anyone who's bored just like me... It's log of irc session how one guy tries to get a warez site where he can download FULL version of Debian (he doesn't want free one :D)07:30
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einPauleHello, I need some assistance. I have installed my printer(ip4000) a couple of times, it works after installing, but on restart it wont react to my printing07:30
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u|qoswhats the ubuntu livecd default admin pw?07:30
DjLinXI need help with usb networking... does anyone know about this07:30
einPauleive tried setting the printers.conf URI to lp0, the only usb device detected07:30
d03boylmfao @ usbnetworking07:30
freeniku|qos: forget root, if you need root right, use sudo <command> ...07:31
bshumateu|qos: i think you use sudo w/o a passwd on the livecd07:31
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trappistOblivion^: was this a server install or something?07:31
u|qosthx, to u both07:31
Oblivion^trappist: yes07:32
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idefixa jar-file is like a zip-file?07:32
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trappistoh, well I don't guess it surprises me that it wants some gtk stuff, which would want gnome stuff, which would want X stuff07:32
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bshumateidefix: yes07:32
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Rickertrappist: set the samba password for the user and WOOHOO!!!!  it's works!!!!  proud moment to be able to see a linux box from a windows pc!!!!  (I know, I should be using linux all around the board, but give me time)07:32
trappistOblivion^: that's probably a minor flaw in that documentation.  obviously mp3 codecs by themselves shouldn't have dependencies like that, but I don't know which packages contain just the codecs07:33
trappistRicker: awesome :)07:33
dieselRicker: cool!07:33
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cowbudmpg123 should be able to play mp3s without shit like gstreamer.07:33
idefixcongrats07:33
Oblivion^trappist: that's an 108 mb flaw then :P07:33
trappistcowbud: pretty much07:33
malcolmkhello got here looking for info/advice?07:33
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trappistOblivion^: that's nothing.  I grabbed over a gig with apt-get in one command last night :)07:33
cowbudtrappist: it doesn't even link to gstreamer07:34
cowbudit uses libmad..07:34
soundraymalcolmk, just ask07:34
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Rickerlinux makes computers fun again07:34
Oblivion^trappist: it's something if your hd is only 2.6 gigs :)07:34
malcolmkgot no sound and looking at forums it seems I need to upgrade the kernal from the 386 to 1.6.10.12 or something?07:34
malcolmkcan I download a kernel upgrade?07:34
Oblivion^trappist: guess i'll just have to be patient 'till my real server finally arrives..07:34
trappistcowbud: reminds me of my mandrake days when I'd try to install nmap on a server and it would pull down a whole desktop07:34
e-headHey guys, I'm having VNC issues. I have set the variable $vncStartup = /home/e-head/.xinitrc; in my .vncrc file, yet my window manager doesn't seem to get started up.07:34
soundraymalcolmk, is this ubuntu?07:34
malcolmkyes07:34
cowbudtrappist yah well that is mandrake probably packaging xnmap also..07:34
trappistcowbud: nmapfe, yea07:35
trappisth07:35
soundraymalcolmk, what do you get when you enter 'uname -a' in a command line?07:35
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ancajoin #<alej>07:35
malcolmkdont know anything , just downloaded ubuntu installed to try07:35
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malcolmkis that in the terminal app?07:36
soundraymalcolmk, yes07:36
malcolmkwill do it now07:36
gentoomeHELLO ALL :)  I'm tryin to inst ubuntu on an old laptop but I only got 32mb ram07:36
trappistouch07:36
mebsdinstall netbsd07:36
malcolmksoundray I get Linux malcolmklinux 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:37
foxpaultrappist, they're on the same network yes07:37
gentoomeanyone use Gnoppix?07:37
soundraymalcolmk, your kernel is fine. You don't need to upgrade.07:37
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kane__how do I install rpm package?07:37
soundraymalcolmk, what kind of sound are you trying to play?07:38
trappistkane__: use alien to convert it to a .deb, if you must install an rpm07:38
foxpaultrappist, the wlan on the server is a different subnet from the eth0, and the wlan on the client is on the same subnet as the wlan on server07:38
malcolmkthe speaker icon at top right does not even open, and in sound no default card is shown?07:38
malcolmkhave soundblaster, any sound will do  cant even see card!07:38
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kane__trappist what is the command options to convert?07:38
soundraymalcolmk, okay, so your sound card is not detected. Is it an ISA card?07:38
malcolmkpci07:39
trappistkane__: man alien07:39
soundraymalcolmk, have you activated it in the BIOS?07:39
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kane__trappist sorry I'm asking too much questions... (but I'm a n00b) :D07:39
h2g2Hi.i want to change the login screen that comes with gdm from the current brown looking one. where do i get new ones and how to install them?07:39
dieselsshfs is the best thing since sliced bread07:39
malcolmkplays fine on xp, got a duel boot system and fine always in windows xp07:39
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trappistkane__: it's ok :)  I just figured I don't use alien, so I'd have to refer to the man page, and you can do that just as easily07:40
MikeGIs there a firefox 1.5 upgrade available? If not, when?07:40
einPauleCan anyone tell me why the System/Administration/printer Dialog shows me two Printers (allthough I only have one there) and dev/usb shows none?07:40
soundraymalcolmk, okay.07:40
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soundraymalcolmk, in the command line, can you enter 'lsmod | grep snd' and tell me how many lines of output (if any)?07:40
malcolmkdo i need to edit a config file somewhere?07:40
hmpedersenRight.. I do a google for xandros language packs.. And get kubuntu 5.10!07:41
soundraymalcolmk, no, let's try and find out why it's not autodetected first.07:41
malcolmk13 lines07:42
malcolmkyou want me to cut and paste it?07:43
soundraymalcolmk, enter 'dmesg' and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please07:43
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e-headanybody here ?07:44
SpikeyLozengeHello07:44
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e-headHey, my client was acting wacky.  :)07:44
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SpikeyLozengeAnybody mind answering a Support Question Relating to OSS?07:45
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RickerIs there something I need to do in order for me to see my default website in apache?  I've got Phpinfo.php script working from my /var/www/ folder, but I created a file called index.html in the same folder and when I try to view it from a remote machine I am told that "you are not authorized to view this page" from IE in windoze.  The index.html file just contains: <html><head><title>Title of page</title></head><body>(Down today for07:46
Rickersystem maintenance.  Thank you for your patience.)</body></html>07:46
soundraySpikeyLozenge, just ask, then we'll see if anybody minds.07:46
SpikeyLozenge^_^07:46
trappistRicker: chmod a+r index.html07:47
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trappistRicker: or chown -R www-data /var/www07:47
Rickertrappist: wow, way over my head.  what does chown do?07:47
SpikeyLozengeWhen Selecting OSS From the Multimedia Systems Selector and testing, I get an error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'" Any Ideas?07:47
trappistRicker: changes the owner of a file/directory07:47
anatole_when configuring a kernel, if i set something's support as a module, will it run without doing anything else? (of course compiling the kernel and etc)07:48
semoxricker: change the files owner07:48
soundraymalcolmk, the 13 lines of output from above -- do they relate to bttv?07:48
trappistRicker: www-data is the user apache runs as, so you want those files to be owned by him07:48
malcolmkpasted07:48
Rickertrappist ahhhhh ok07:48
malcolmkwhats bttv?07:48
trappistanatole_: some modules will get loaded automatically.  others need to be loaded manually or added to /etc/modules07:48
soundraymalcolmk, your TV card.07:48
trappistmalcolmk: driver for tv tuner cards07:48
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malcolmkdo have a tv card in there, pinnacle07:49
soundraymalcolmk, 'lsmod | grep snd'07:49
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NeiI am currently using windows but I'd like to check out ubuntu; however I am using a special input device that appears as a joystick. I didn't have any luck getting X to accept it, would maybe someone know a solution?07:49
soundraymalcolmk, lots of 'bttv' strings in there?07:49
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trappistor lspci07:49
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anatole_trappist: and if i set it to include it in the kernel, will it run with no problem?07:49
anatole_or what is the usually preferred way?07:49
sambagirli have a question is off topic but i just reading about US Cybersecurity Czar post created. Why is there Czars in democracy? They have Czar of homland security too i think. Just curious. sorry.07:49
anatole_(btw its the support of my raid chipset)07:49
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malcolmkwant me to paste that output ?07:50
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foxpauli'm trying to setup my network in ad-hoc mode, but is there a way to set it up with the server wlan card being an AP?07:50
Rickertrappist: out of curiosity, who is the default owner of /var/www/ before I ussue the chown command?  root?07:50
soundrayThanks trappist07:50
trappistanatole_: there are a FEW modules that really want to be modules, but mostly yeah, you can say y.  'preferred' is subjective.  if you include it, your kernel will be bigger, you may lose some flexibility etc., but if it's a module it may require extra effort to make it work.07:50
trappistRicker: probably07:50
soundraymalcolmk, no, paste the output of lspci, that'll be more useful.07:50
sambagirlis there a channel i can talk about this stuff anyone know?07:50
anatole_trappist: thank you07:51
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trappistsambagirl: #ubuntu-offtopic07:51
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sambagirlthanks07:51
mcphailRicker: www-data is the default owner, but your index.html was probably created as root07:52
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malcolmkok pasted that07:52
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malcolmkshows my nvidia graphic card07:52
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Rickermcphail: so by issuing command chown -R www-data /var/www07:53
Ricker, will that set the permissions for index.html then?07:53
Rickeroops...hit enter by accident in the middle of that last message07:53
amz0rthat will set read permission on everything in /var/www07:53
malcolmkthe soundblaster shows as ensonique 5880 pci07:54
Rickeramz0r: ok cool07:54
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tirisdoes anyone know if there is support for the sony minidisc products in this distro?07:54
tirisor in linux at all?07:54
amz0rg2g, later07:54
SpikeyLozengeLater07:54
mcphailRicker: the -R tells it to recurse through the directories07:54
soundraymalcolmk, let's see if the relevant module is loaded. The name is snd-ens137107:54
soundraymalcolmk, so do a 'lsmod | grep 1371' and see if you get any output.07:55
Rickermcphail: wow so much to learn.  Thanks!07:55
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malcolmkyep07:56
malcolmkpaste it?07:56
soundraymalcolmk, no, if it's there, it's there.07:56
purplefeltangelcan someone tell me which Solitaire game in FrecellSolitaire is the same as the Microsoft one, if any?07:56
Neurosiswhats a good place for free ftp space?07:56
malcolmkfirst line does contain a zero in one field? is ok ?07:57
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soundraymalcolmk, is the loaded module called ens1371 or snd-ens1371?07:58
SpikeyLozengeI hate to ask again, but I'll post it one more time... When Selecting OSS From the Multimedia Systems Selector and Testing, I get an error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'  Any Ideas? Sorry to Pest...07:59
malcolmksnd_ens137107:59
chombeeHello - I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to use GNOME panel applets such as the weather applet or trash applet in OpenBox, say with PyPanel?07:59
pipelineSpikeyLozenge: What that most likely means is that your sound card is simply not working out with linux.  Have you tried selecting Alsa?07:59
foxpauldoes anyone know how i configure hostap to use my wlan card as an access point?08:00
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soundraymalcolmk, please paste the output of lsmod (the whole lot) as before.08:00
mcphailSpikeyLozenge: it's usually a bonus when OSS doesn't work08:00
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malcolmkpasted ok08:01
SpikeyLozengeI have, and it works great.  QuakeIII However uses OSS Correct?  The Real Question is why i have no sound in Quake3, but I was trying not to be such a noob.  ^_^08:01
seliniumWhat is the command line for changing FLAC files to WAVs? I only need the app08:01
kevinHelp?  I can access the Ubuntu computer with the Win2K computer via Samba but can't copy any data files there...no access rights.  Where do I set those?  I have gone to the folder in the Ubuntu computer and set the rights via "properties" but that doesn't do it...??08:01
Neurosiswhats a good ftp server i can use on my ubuntu?08:01
stozkakevin, maybe share on win2k is read only08:02
stozkathen you have nothing to set on your site08:02
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mcphailSpikeyLozenge: does aoss work?08:02
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stozkaups, it's vice versa08:03
techrushhi guys08:03
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mitch_How Do i watch mpg wmv and avi movies?   I cant get them to work,  i instaleld the gstreamer package but how do i find it?  theres nothing in multimedia folder ?08:03
SpikeyLozenge I don't have that option.08:03
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trappist!tell mitch about w32codecs08:04
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SpikeyLozengeI have ALSA, Artsd, ESD, and OSS08:04
mcphailSpikeyLozenge: aoss quake308:04
mitch_w32codecs ?   what are those?08:04
trappistmitch_: codecs from windows for playing various kinds of media08:04
mcphailaoss = alsa wrapper for oss08:04
SpikeyLozengeI'll try it08:04
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pipelineSpikeyLozenge: There's also a kernel driver that emulates OSS using Alsa08:05
mitch_trappist : what program are the codecs for?08:05
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pipelineSpikeyLozenge: try loading snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss08:05
soundraymalcolmk, can you do a ls -l /dev/dsp and paste the output here please08:06
SpikeyLozengeI tried the command 'aoss quake3' and I get the 'command: aoos not found'08:06
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trappistmitch_: whatever can use them.  like xine and mplayer.08:06
mitch_totem?08:06
kevinstozka:  the win2k system is accessing the file on the Ubuntu computer.  the rights on the Ubuntu is what is not set?08:06
SpikeyLozengei'll try those, thanks!08:06
trappistmitch_: not sure.  I don't use totem.08:06
malcolmkls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory08:06
SpikeyLozengeI'm off to Eat Chinese.  ROCK!08:06
mitch_can i load mplayer from symantic?08:07
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_jasonubotu, tell mitch_ about mplayer08:07
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trappistmitch_: if you mean synaptic, yes08:07
soundraymalcolmk, interesting. How about ls -l /dev/audio?08:07
malcolmksame no such file or directory08:08
trappistsounds like no sound drivers.  or the wrong ones.08:08
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korhalfdoes anyone know why ssh -X host still doesn't do x11 forwarding?08:08
soundraytrappist, drivers are loaded automatically and match the card...08:08
Neimaybe the server doesn\t allow forwarding08:09
trappistkorhalf: I wish I did.08:09
korhalfi mean, i try to open something like xine and its telling me can't open display, what gives?08:09
korhalfNei: well it's my box at home, so how would i enable it?08:09
trappistkorhalf: ssh-forwarded xine would be a nightmare anyway08:09
soundraytrappist, do you think it's any use to create the devices with mknod?08:09
korhalftrappist: no i know, but just as a test :P08:09
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korhalftrappist: i couldnt think of any other graphical apps to run08:09
trappistsoundray: they should be created automatically if the right driver is loaded.  I haven't been paying attention, what sound card is this?08:09
Neikorhalf, probably in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or whereever your distribution chose to put the ssh config file :)?08:10
korhalfim using ubuntu like 90 percent of the people here are anyway :P08:10
soundraytrappist, Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI08:10
malcolmkcard is soundblaster08:10
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trappistmalcolmk: what kind of soundblaster08:10
malcolmk12808:10
soundraytrappist, Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI08:10
trappisteh08:11
soundraytrappist, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/578908:11
trappistwhich one is it!08:11
korhalfNei: x11 forwarding is set to yes.08:11
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e-headAnybody here use truecrypt ?08:11
cristianesta papa mario?????08:11
soundraytrappist, don't listen to malcolmk, he doesn't know what his problem is :)08:11
trappistyep sure looks like the ensoniq :)08:11
korhalfcristian: parles espagnol? joines #ubuntu-sp08:11
malcolmki know what my soundcard is its stamped all over the driver disk08:11
_jason!es08:12
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:12
cristiany que???08:12
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korhalfoh its es.08:12
Neikorhalf, are you sure you have the necessary programs installed?08:12
esjI'm getting a series of errors that follow the pattern:  /etc/resolvconf/update-libc.d/postfix exited with return code 108:12
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soundraymalcolmk, never mind what it's been sold to you as.08:12
korhalfNei: okay, i have ubuntu at home, and ubuntu here08:12
esjany ideas on what could be causing it?08:12
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korhalfNei: i have an x server here, forwarding SHOULD work08:12
picassocan anyone recommend a decent html editor (or general purpose editor) for someone used to like TextPad ?08:12
soundraymalcolmk, we have to make it work as what it really is :)08:12
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trappistsoundray: do you happen to know what driver supports that card?08:12
korhalfpicasso: gedit, or vim if you want to feel like a hacker08:12
soundraytrappist, the one that's loaded - snd_ens137108:13
Neikorhalf, you also need to have xauth08:13
picassokorhalf: i am uber leet vim haxor already, this is for friend :)08:13
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soundraytrappist, lsmod is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/579008:13
korhalfpicasso: heh, alright :D08:13
korhalfNei: on which machine? both?08:13
picassoreally, gedit is best?08:13
picassoit dont got much for features08:13
korhalfpicasso: what do you mean,  you can sete it to highlight html keywords.08:13
korhalfpicasso: what mor edo you need?08:14
picassoyea i spose08:14
cristianesta papa mario????????????????????????????????08:14
picassosearch/replace not that powerful08:14
korhalfcristian: #ubuntu-es08:14
picassoi dono08:14
trappistsoundray: you're sure that's the right driver?08:14
korhalfpicasso: then vim is good08:14
korhalfpicasso: or emacs08:14
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picassoyeah, i guess there's not much there for the power-gui-editor user :)08:14
korhalfNei: i have xauth on both machines.08:14
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soundraytrappist, no, but the kernel thinks so.08:14
trappistsoundray: do we have dmesg output from when he loaded the driver?08:14
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korhalfpicasso: you either have gui or power, and i guess gvim is a suitable replacement then.08:15
Neikorhalf, it sounds like it should work ;) dunno sorry08:15
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korhalfpicasso: you're friend should become accustomed to the shell though, its what makes linux, linux08:15
picassoyeah08:15
korhalfpicasso: your*08:15
arrikwhat's the command to allow access to my windows partitions? right now only root can view it08:15
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korhalfNei: thanks anyway man, i appreciate it08:15
soundraytrappist, full dmesg on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5788 , but nothing I can see relates to the driver loading.08:15
korhalfarrik: you have to put your user group in /etc/fstab08:15
arrikkorhalf how do i do thta?08:15
trappistsoundray: was the driver loaded manually or at boot?08:16
soundraytrappist, malcolmk, ahh, now I see it.08:16
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soundrayENS1371: probe of 0000:00:0a.0 failed with error -1608:16
malcolmksee what ?08:17
korhalfarrik: edit your /etc/fstab.08:17
soundraymalcolmk, in your dmesg output, an error message relating to your sound driver.08:17
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korhalfarrik: /dev/hdd1 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdd1) ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 008:18
korhalfarrik: thats what i have in my /etc/fstab, you can change where its being mounted and also, what partition your mounting08:18
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soundraymalcolmk, I suggest you remove the camera. I think it conflicts with the sound card.08:18
korhalfarrik: create a directory called windows in /media, then just put that in your fstab and it should work08:18
soundraymalcolmk, sounds weird, but other people have had this kind of trouble: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg06916.html08:19
korhalfarrik: /dev/partition /media/windows ...etc08:19
korhalf!mount08:19
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f08:19
varsendaggerwhat is the difference between x11 and xorg?08:19
korhalf!windowsdrives08:19
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f08:19
malcolmkok will remove it, should i need to reboot then ?08:19
soundraymalcolmk, reboot the machine without the camera, yes.08:19
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arrikkorhalf  hda1 (my windows partition) is already at /media/hda1   but only root can read it08:19
malcolmkok back in a mo08:20
mcphailvarsendagger: xorg is an implementation of x1108:20
korhalfarrik: look at what i put, i put user, so that user can access.08:20
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korhalfarrik: im telling you, put what i put, and itll mount every time and give it user access.08:20
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arrikk08:22
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NCLifeseveas, sorry could you give me your page again? i cant remember it :(08:22
rockin_stanNCLife, google?08:23
NCLifeyes, i guess ill have to08:23
NCLifelol08:23
Stormx2is ubotu still ill?08:24
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jgrievesubotu tell jgrieves about ubotu08:24
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Albe-TType /server irc.Undermex.org 6667  and join to #Cservice08:24
soundrayStormx2, looks like he's his normal self again.08:24
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jgrieves!FF1508:24
ubotujgrieves: I don't know, could you explain it?08:24
malcolmksoundray : still no card shown in preferences /sound08:24
jgrieveshe seems ok08:24
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korhalfyes 2 1/2 feet of snow up here!08:25
korhalfontario, canada, god bless, hopefully a snow day08:25
bolrod:)08:25
Stormx2!botsnack08:25
ubotu:)08:25
pipelinegoddamn I hate snow08:25
Stormx2:D08:25
fastlyhey i managed to get wifi working on my ipw2200, however it didn't work with the WEP key switched on08:25
bolrodwe only have rain08:25
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pipelinesnow is proof that there cannot possibly be an omnibenevolent creator08:25
pipelinea loving god would not curse us so08:25
soundraymalcolmk, 'dmesg | grep 1371' ?08:25
bolrod1808:25
fastlyi would quite like to use WEP to stop my neighbours from rootin through my network08:25
StuttergartDoes anyone know what software is being used to run wiki.ubuntu.com?08:25
fastlyanyone here got it working?08:25
StuttergartIs the ubuntu site still Plone based?08:26
malcolmkfailed with error 1608:26
NCLifeoh, now i remeber, the mirror was not working, seveas! i need your page :P08:26
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NCLifewell, if your there of course08:26
malcolmkmalcolmk@malcolmklinux:~$ dmesg | grep 137108:26
malcolmk[4294709.778000]  ENS1371: probe of 0000:00:0a.0 failed with error -1608:26
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bshumateStuttergart: i think the Wiki is MoinMoin, but not 100% sure08:26
soundraymalcolmk, I think you still have a device conflict.08:26
soundraymalcolmk, would it be difficult to boot without the TV card?08:27
varsendaggermcphail, thacks08:27
malcolmkyes have to take it out08:27
varsendaggerthanks08:27
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malcolmkcan i disable tvcard from device manager?08:27
trappistmalcolmk: not the same thing.  if it's an irq conflict it's a hardware problem.08:28
Stuttergartbshumate: I see. MoinMoin isn't a Plone product though, correct?08:28
soundraymalcolmk, no, that won't solve it. Give me another minute to stfw please.08:28
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StuttergartIt looks like PHP or something.08:28
picattahow do i install the shockwaves player from macromedia?08:28
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trappistpicatta: you'll need something like crossover office for that08:29
NCLife!tell NCLife csi08:29
NCLifeO.O08:29
korhalfif i dont have access to gui, is it still possible to make ssh start on bootup?08:29
picattatrappist, and that means?08:29
NCLife!tell csi08:29
trappistpicatta: it means there's no linux version, so you need windows virtualization08:29
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pipelinekorhalf: sure08:29
picattaokey :)08:29
NCLife!tell sci08:30
pipelinepicatta: shockwave, as a browser plugin, works fine in wine08:30
bimberiNCLife: /msg ubotu csi08:30
_jasonkorhalf, it always starts on boot08:30
khermansCan someone tell me how to make it so that my networking utility does not change my /etc/resolv.conf?  I want it to always be the same nameservers08:30
NCLifethanks :P08:30
_jasonkorhalf, by default anyway08:30
varsendaggerhey how do i get two programs to play sound at the same time?  i remember seeing a esd fix but i don't remember08:30
bimberiNCLife: np :)08:30
vince__ /join #wifi08:30
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_jasonvarsendagger, if they're both using esd, it should work... works over here anyway08:31
bshumateStuttergart: the wiki is definitely Python / MoinMoin : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/credits?highlight=%28moinmoin%2908:31
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varsendagger_jason, i use alsa how do i tell the programs to use esd?08:31
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pipelinevarsendagger: instead of esd, you can enable dmix08:31
soundraymalcolmk, could you paste the output of 'cat /proc/interrupts' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/08:31
_jasonpipeline, how would one do that?  I would like to rid myself of esd08:32
varsendaggerpipeline, do i just run it in the term or what?08:32
pipeline_jason, varsendagger : google for a canned configuration08:32
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zandaahow I burn a VCD in linux?08:33
Stormx2zandaa: gnome-baker might do it08:34
Stormx2zandaa: let me see.08:34
zandaaStormx2, it can only burn data and audo08:34
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malcolmksent it08:34
Stormx2Ah bummer08:34
Stormx2Not sure then.08:34
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DRK13orly08:36
bimberikhermans: try adding a line like " dns-nameservers x.x.x.x y.y.y.y" to your iface clause(s) in /etc/network/interfaces08:36
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Stormx2Hmm. How do I find out what apps are using internet?08:36
soundraymalcolmk, there seems to be no easier way -- boot without the TV card and see if the sound works.08:36
bimberis/" /"/08:36
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soundraymalcolmk, if it does, that proves that there is a resource conflict.08:37
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sewoylhi! one quick question to answer a friend ... when doing the partition resizing on install, is the percentage you have to type in the space to allocate to ubuntu or the space to leave to windows ?(i don't know because I always repartition my disk myself)08:37
soundraymalcolmk, sometimes you have to do some black magic -- put the TV card in another slot08:37
VIPER^|^hello there08:37
soundraymalcolmk, or play with the BIOS PCI resource settings...08:37
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malcolmkgot to dismantle so may have to wait untill tomorrow, will try it and see, thanks for the help and the time you spent with me08:38
VIPER^|^nybody has an idea about sks errors of  compilation08:38
malcolmkwho knows may be back 2morrow, think I will let you know the outcome anyway.08:38
malcolmkcheers08:38
soundraymalcolmk, hope you can fix it.08:38
sewoylplease, does anybody know????08:38
mzelemanyone know where to go to determine the compatibility of hardware in ubuntu before you buy it?08:38
VIPER^|^anybody has an idea about sks errors of  compilation08:39
Stormx2!hardware08:39
ubotu[hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:39
mzelemk, thanks....08:39
VIPER^|^does any1 know08:39
sewoylanybody?? this is urgent08:39
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bshumateStormx2: man lsof, particularly the -i option08:40
Stormx2sewoyl: How much disk space does windows say he has left?08:40
varsendaggerhey pipeline where do i get dmix is it a package or is an alsa configuration?08:40
fastlyanyone here know of a gnome app for sniffing out wifi signals?08:40
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pipelinevarsendagger: It's a configuration issue.08:41
sewoylStormx2, I have no idea but this is a 80G hard drive with a fresh windows install on it08:41
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sewoylStormx2,  73,6 GB08:42
sewoylout of 8008:42
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varsendaggerpipeline, thanks08:42
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khermansbimberi, thx -- might work08:42
sewoylcan can my friend figure out if the percentage he has to type in is the space to leave to windows or the percentage to give ubuntu ?08:42
sewoylhow can*08:43
kevinCan anyone tell me where to set the access rights on a folder on the Ubuntu computer for access by a win2K through Samba????08:43
jpanegaIm trying to setup RT3.4 on a powermacG4, ubuntu 5.10. I use apt get to install apache2 and mysql and rt. im stuck at getting mysql up and running. i get this error error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket'/var/run/mysqld/ mysqld.sock' (2)'08:43
jpanegaCheck that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!08:43
Stormx2sewoyl: Use up 20gb or so08:43
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Stormx2sewoyl: Depends if he wants to just mess around on it or use it as a full-time OS08:43
jpanegawhere is the default for mysqld.sock?08:43
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_jasonsewoyl, best option would be 0% windows 100% ubuntu, but you can read this too: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-20.492130665808:43
mcphailjpanega: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start08:44
keIs it possible to update breezer to dapper?08:44
jpanegathanks08:44
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varsendaggerwhere is the .asoundrc file?08:44
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sewoylStormx2, let's say he wants to use 2G for ubuntu ... does he have to type in 25% or 75% (in other words, again, does he have to type in the disk size for ubuntu or windows? the installer is _completely_ unclear about what it is asking)08:45
naliothke: it is possible, but not recommended at this time08:45
sewoyli meant 20G08:45
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jpanegamcphail I get this  Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.08:45
jpanega        Please take a look at the syslog.08:45
jpanega/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed08:45
jpanegaerror: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'08:45
Stormx2sewoyl: It doesn't work of percentages....08:45
jpanegaCheck that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!08:45
Sannejpanega: I just started mysql, and the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock indeed exists.08:45
naliothsewoyl: you can type 2gb or use your calculator and put a percentage of disk to use, it's choice08:45
kevinCan anyone help on a Samba rights issue???08:45
CaptainMorganno08:45
sewoylnalioth, thanks you've been the only to understand what I meant08:46
kevinCan you tell me where I can find out about this?08:46
mcphailjpanega: did you look at the syslog?08:46
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bshumatekevin: rather than asking if people can help, assume many here are here for the purpose of helping, and just ask your specific question...08:46
jpanegamcphail no, im doing it now08:46
CaptainMorganno08:46
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jpanegawheres syslog at?08:47
CaptainMorganno08:47
bshumatejpanega : /var/log/syslog08:47
kevinbshumate, how do I set the rights on a folder so that I can copy/paste a data file from Win2K system into it with read/write access?08:48
korhalfwhat can i edit thru terminal to change the hostname of my machine?08:48
naliothCaptainMorgan: please be civil.08:48
korhalfi think i need something a little more descriptive then user@linuxbox$08:48
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jpanegaDec 15 13:44:50 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[9120] :08:48
jpanegaDec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld_safe[9193] : started08:48
jpanegaDec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: No valid checkpoint found.08:49
jpanegaDec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: If this error appears when you are creating an InnoDB database,08:49
jpanegaDec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: the problem may be that during an earlier attempt you managed08:49
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jpanegaDec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: to create the InnoDB data files, but log file creation failed.08:49
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jpanegaDec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: If that is the case, please refer to08:49
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Stormx2Please don't paste here...08:49
Stormx2Oh he left08:49
Stormx2;D08:49
MoonRangeris thier a quick and easy way to get rid of the localhost.localdomain08:49
MoonRangerin ubuntu ..08:49
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korhalfdoes anyone know where in ubuntu i can edit to change the hostname08:49
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naliothjpanega: pleaes read the /topic and don't paste in here08:49
korhalfi know there has to be some /etc/hostname or something08:49
sewoylkorhalf, there is the hostname command08:50
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unimatrixhi there08:50
korhalfsewoyl, there is?08:50
jpanegasorry08:50
djm62korhalf: /etc/hostname08:50
naliothkorhalf: man hostname08:50
unimatrixany one here has zope?08:50
unimatrixand knows how to start it on ubuntu?08:50
levanderI can umount and mount a filesystem with two steps to remount a filesystem, but is there a way to remount it just by typing one command?08:50
unimatrixjust installed it but fails to start zope08:50
djm62levander: with the mount command, include -o remount08:50
ajmitchunimatrix: you've setup a zope instance?08:50
korhalfnalioth, okay, the changes didnt take effect, do i have to restart?08:50
levanderunimatrix: maybe try #python?08:50
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unimatrixhow do i do that?08:51
naliothkorhalf: you shouldn't08:51
unimatrixthe instance...08:51
djm62levander: along with your new mount options08:51
ndlovuany ideas why my samba is failing?08:51
_jasonkorhalf, you can change it easily in the gui: system -> administration -> networking --> general08:51
ndlovu/etc/init.d/samba: line 24:  7600 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D08:51
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unimatrixgot console ope@08:51
ajmitchunimatrix: something like  dzhandle -z 2.7 make-instance  <instance> --addon-mode all08:51
korhalf_jason, i don thave a gui08:52
ajmitchwhere you replace <instance> with the name you want08:52
jpanegaheres what I get in the syslog  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/579208:52
_jasonkorhalf, never mind then :)08:52
korhalfnalioth, i shouldnt? then what do i do..08:52
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ajmitchunimatrix: see /usr/share/doc/zope-common/README.Ubuntu.gz08:52
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trappistwow.  conky is hella cool.08:52
levanderdjm62: does that do a umount first?  I'm looking for a one-step replacement for when I reboot my XP box, and have to remount all the smbfs shares.  Currently, I'm doing 1.) 'sudo umount -l -t -a smbfs' 2.) 'sudo mount -t smbfs -a'08:52
shanonxstupid question but where can I get new themes?08:53
naliothkorhalf: see what _jason told you above08:53
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FrostyHi all08:53
korhalfnalioth, i dont have a gui.08:53
kevinndlovu, can you tell me where to set the rights so i can copy a data file from Win2K to Ubuntu folder for Samba access???08:53
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levandershanonx: art.gnome.org has some08:53
GURTsomething?08:53
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naliothkorhalf: then in a terminal type "man hostname" once you change it, log out08:53
FrostyI am popping up all kinds of errors while trying to install gftp08:53
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levanderdjm62: i tried 'mount -o remount -l -t smbfs -a' to replace those two commands, didn't work08:53
unimatrixthanx for the help, thats great!08:53
_jasonubotu, tell shanonx about themes08:53
Frostyanyone know how to mkae this?08:53
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jpanegamcphail: you get my syslog?08:53
Frostymake*08:53
naliothFrosty: gftp is in the repos08:54
Frostyof damn, is it?08:54
shanonxthanks jason08:54
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shanonxand levander.08:54
Frostynalioth: thanks08:54
mcphailjpanega: no. join #flood08:54
CaptainMorganwow, peeps gotta lighten up08:54
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FrostyI musta overlooked it08:54
jpanegamcphail: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57908:55
MoonRangeranyone have any tutorials on setting your linux box up with a spare domain name i have ..08:55
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djm62levander: I think the -o remount should come after the other options... it might not be honoured by smbfs, but it's all I can suggest08:55
FrostyNalioth: I get that through Synaptic?08:55
ndlovukevin, there may be others here who can be of more help, but I can try to help!08:55
naliothFrosty: yes you do08:55
CaptainMorganhow come amarok is saying, "some urls were not suitable for the playlist" ? when trying to add media?08:55
florgcan anyone tell me how to use the nbd-client?08:55
anatolewhat should i do to apply the changes of /etc/fstab ?08:56
CaptainMorganwtf does that mean?08:56
Frostynalioth: thanks again08:56
kevinndlovu, are you getting my invite to chat?08:56
ndlovukevin - you have an ubuntu machine and a win2k machine, is that right?08:56
florgi connected to my server but how can i access the exported file?08:56
kevinright08:56
djm62anatole: remount08:56
MrFartsis there really any difference in picture quality between dvi video cards08:56
MrFartsthat makes no sense to me08:56
naliothubotu: tell kevin about register08:56
CaptainMorganit's not a url...08:56
_jasonanatole, sudo mount -a08:56
ndlovukevin: can you access the win2k machine at all from ubuntu08:56
mcphailjpanega: i'd do what it says, or remove and reinstall mysql08:57
kevinlet me try..one moment please08:57
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CaptainMorganoh wait.. how you set up so that amarok can play mp3's ?08:57
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naliothubotu: tell CaptainMorgan about mp308:57
CaptainMorganmay be the problem..08:57
jpanegamcphail: i have done that08:57
holycowif your looking at a mounted linux drive, what is the easiest way to clue into what version of linux was running on it?  chances are this is debian  ....08:57
korhalfdamn i cant think of a better hostname than "linuxbox"08:57
korhalfany ideas?08:58
varsendaggerkorhalf, george08:58
korhalfvarsendagger, george?08:58
naliothkorhalf: my hostnames all reflect the hardware they name08:58
_jasonkorhalf, snow08:58
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holycowkorhalf, use cities, countries, mythology08:58
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mcphailjpanega: followed the instructions on http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Error_creating_InnoDB.html ?08:58
_jasonkorhalf, weather :)08:58
varsendaggeryeah if it was good enough for a kennedy it should be good enough for you08:58
holycowsome rough ways to start thinking in related naming terminology :)08:58
ElitePetekorhalf, thats my hostname LMFAO08:58
korhalfholycow, mythology, thats good08:58
korhalfElitePete, what, linuxbox? lol08:59
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ElitePeteyea i swear it is08:59
mitch_How come when i try and burn an iso,  it says enter an empty disk,  i do and it seems that it dosent reconize it,   when i put it in a cd pops up on the desktop thou...   ??08:59
korhalfElitePete, its just so descriptive, and it isnt anything gay like "sentinal" or something08:59
ElitePetei couldn't think of anything either08:59
holycowElitePete, love the nick :)08:59
holycowhehe08:59
Neurosiswhats a good ftp server i can set up on ubuntu08:59
varsendaggerso that is a no on george08:59
ElitePetethx holy.08:59
kevinndlovu, by the way, I am trying to access the Ubuntu machine from the W2K machine, not the other way around.  The W2K machine accesses the Ub fine, just doesn't seem to have any rights to xfera file.08:59
rockin_stancu, gn808:59
holycowneural, proftpd is the standr most use, lots of other options too08:59
NCLifeseveas or someone, after i dl the sun java package, wich was the command i had to type to install it?09:00
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mitch_How do I burn an iso to an empty cdr?09:00
djm62feynman...if I can ever afford another computer, bohr09:00
naliothubotu: tell NCLife about deb09:00
ElitePeteMitch_ write click it >write to cd09:00
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ElitePeteright*09:00
NCLifethx nalioth09:01
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mitch_ElitePete : I do that but it says please enter a rewriteable or blank disk? ???09:02
korhalfso many hostnames to choose from09:02
korhalfdamn09:02
ElitePetehmm..09:02
ElitePetekorhalf, weird we'd have the same one :-P09:02
ndlovukevin, okay, have you gone through the information on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?09:02
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korhalfElitePete, i think theres more than just us09:02
CaptainMorganhttp://pastebin.com/465663 what does that mean? I have the repo's listed and checked...09:02
kevinndlovu, no09:02
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korhalfElitePete, its just for the installation, you dont care so you call it linux or linux box or something09:03
ElitePete:-) yea09:03
ElitePetei didn't know it stuck around09:03
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korhalfElitePete, then over time you customize everything, and i cant think of a good hostname09:03
kevinndlovu, I will go there, thanks.09:03
ElitePetei started out just using my Ip address though....09:03
mcphailkorhalf: what about korhalflinuxbox? That would be unique.09:03
korhalfElitePete, wow09:03
korhalfmcphail, korhalf is unique eh09:03
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korhalfright now its chris@linuxbox:09:03
korhalfkorhalflinuxbox is too long09:03
ElitePetelol mine is pete@LinuxBox09:03
ElitePete;-p09:03
ndlovukevin: you probably need to edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf file and set writable = yes for your shares09:04
chorsekorhalf: strip the vowels.09:04
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korhalfkrhlflnxbx09:04
korhalfwow09:04
korhalfchris@lnxbx09:04
mcphailkorhalf: then rot1309:04
korhalfahah09:04
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sobersabrehi09:05
CaptainMorganhttp://pastebin.com/465663 what does that mean? I have the repo's listed and checked... << anyone seen this before ?09:05
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mitch_Cansomeone help me with burning an ISO to a cd when the blank cd is not reconized?09:05
sobersabrehas anybody got KDE3.5 on breezy  in here ?09:05
ndlovucan anyone tell me what a semicolon (;) at the start of a line in smb.conf signifies?09:05
_jasonCaptainMorgan, I think mirrormax no longer exists09:05
trappistndlovu: comment09:06
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mcphailmitch_: tried another CD?09:06
korhalfim gonna look at some linux screenshots and steal someone elses09:06
korhalf:)09:06
mitch_will do mcphai09:06
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chorsendlovu: a comment line09:06
ndlovutrappist: so the same as # ?09:06
ElitePetehaha!09:06
sobersabrendlovu try using vim it colors comments for smb.conf/09:06
trappistndlovu: yeah09:06
trappistkorhalf: I'm trappist@grasshopper.linuxkungfu.org :)09:06
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ndlovuthanks09:06
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korhalftrappist, dont you hate how its that long though?09:06
korhalftrappist, i dont want it to take half my shell realistate09:07
trappistkorhalf: well in my shell it just says grasshopper09:07
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sobersabrei repeat: is anybody using KDE3.5 on breezy here ?09:07
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mitch_tryd another disk,   there brand new out of the cd-r package.   The blank disks seems to show up on my desktop..09:07
korhalfxorn? who the hell thought of that one, bad screenie too09:07
trappistsobersabre: will it help if somebody says no?09:07
CaptainMorganjason , mirrormax ?09:07
ElitePetecan somone tell me what the, cmd to save current soundcard config is?09:07
sobersabretrappist i expect another answer09:07
mcphailkorhalf: you don't need to show your hostname at all at the shell prompt09:08
djm62sobersabre: no09:08
trappistsobersabre: I expect if somebody who saw you ask is running 3.5 on breezy, you'd have gotten something09:08
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djm62sobersabre: it may take some time for everyone to say no, some people are probably idling09:08
techrushmmm garlic hot wings09:08
trappistsobersabre: I for one wouldn't know how to get 3.5 on breezy09:08
_jasonCaptainMorgan, the repositories that are failing in your pastebin, they're the mirrormax ones.09:08
ndlovusobersabre: I do use vim but it doesn't use colours. I can remember somewhere there's a setting for that, do you perhaps know where it is (I'm using gnome terminal)?09:08
omegHi everybody. I want to change a directory's files (and the directory itself) ownership. It's currently owned by root, and I want to make it the usergroup "michiel", which is my user's group.09:08
omegIs there a terminal way to do it?09:08
trappistlol@djm6209:08
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ElitePetecan somone tell me what the, cmd to save current soundcard config is?09:09
CaptainMorganjason, sorry I have no idea what you're talking about..09:09
trappistomeg: sudo chown -R michiel /path/to/dir09:09
mitch_how do i unmount my cdr?09:09
omegThanks09:09
vince__hi09:09
sobersabredjm62 i'll wait until everyone says their no09:09
_jasonubotu, are you using hoary or breezy?09:09
ubotu_jason: Syntax error in line 109:09
_jasonffs09:09
trappistElitePete: please give it a few minutes before repeating yourself09:09
ElitePetek.09:09
korhalfhttp://r-tist.no-ip.org/secondscreen.png09:09
_jasonCaptainMorgan, are you using hoary or breezy?09:09
CaptainMorgannalioth gave me the ubotu info.. I followed that and tried the sudo command they're for enabling mp3's09:09
korhalfthats my desktop right there09:10
korhalfi dont know how other people have such cool themes09:10
CaptainMorganjason hoary09:10
korhalfand i have that piece of crap09:10
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_jasonCaptainMorgan, are comfortable editing your sources.list?09:10
ElitePetehttp://demonlegion.net/private/Mace/linux.png is my desktop09:10
_jasonCaptainMorgan, are you that is09:10
djm62korhalf: have you had a look at themes.freshmeat.net and art.gnome.org?09:10
trappistkorhalf: http://linuxkungfu.org/images/shots/adesktop.png09:10
CaptainMorganjason if I know what exactly to do with it... what to edit etc.09:10
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NCLifenalioth, the package name is sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb, should i put all that on the command?09:11
ElitePeteyes nc09:11
NCLifeoks :)09:11
naliothNCLife: yes09:11
korhalftrappist, and thats ubuntu?09:11
korhalftrappist, is that even gnome?09:11
jpanegamcphail: i delete the files and I get the same error09:11
_jasonCaptainMorgan, okay, first do you want the hoary backports?  and pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list please09:11
ElitePetedpkg -l filename.deb09:11
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omeghmmm09:11
ElitePetecan somone tell me what the, cmd to save current soundcard config is?09:11
trappistkorhalf: actually no and no, but my ubuntu boxes look the same09:11
ndlovusobersabre: nevermind, I found it in /etc/vim/vimrc. much better now :)09:11
korhalftrappist, thatd be cool to have a theme like that, id feel like a hacker lol09:12
sobersabrendlovu way to go :)09:12
sobersabrea :syn on09:12
sobersabrewould be enough...09:12
trappistndlovu: it's better to make a .vimrc in your home dir than to edit that09:12
mcphailjpanega: it's all very odd. Have you done apt-get remove --purge mysqld? Then reinstall?09:12
korhalfElitePete, thats mac osx theme isnt it?09:13
trappistkorhalf: http://linuxkungfu.org/images/wallpaper/puterguts.jpg09:13
korhalfElitePete, cypress hill is the shiznit btw09:13
sobersabretrappist do you know how to setup in the editted .c file misc vim settings ?09:13
ndlovutrappist: thanks for the advice, I'll do it that way then09:13
Answerquit09:13
Stormx2I don't understand the concept of "backports". Is that like, breezy packages for hoary users, or the other way around?09:13
Answer:qtui09:13
CaptainMorganjason Hoary would be fine, right? I have no intentions of upgrading to breezy right now... http://pastebin.com/46567809:13
Answer:quit09:13
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ElitePetekorhalf yea iti s.09:13
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ElitePetekorhalf, i don't know09:13
omegSetting up mysql and php is so difficult09:13
naliothStormx2: backports are programs for the next release of ubuntu available for the current release09:13
Stormx2omeg: No it isn't09:13
CaptainMorganomeg it's easy09:13
ElitePetearg, yes cypress hill owns, but i dunno what theam it is09:13
Stormx2omeg: You can do it in one command09:13
Stormx2!lamp09:13
ubotusomebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:13
ndlovutrappist: um, would it basically be a copy of the same file, just with user-specific changes?09:13
trappistsobersabre: I'm not sure what you're asking09:13
ElitePeteStormx2 can you tell me the cmd to save current soundcard config?09:13
Stormx2ElitePete: Nope, sorry09:14
jpanegamcphail: --purge mysql?09:14
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omegI've got all the packages from synaptic, and it seems mysql is set up correctly, as is php, but now I need to make a database. I tried to do it, but I have no access to use CREATE.09:14
trappistndlovu: if you only have one change to make, it just needs one line.  it takes precedence over the system vimrc.09:14
klaymhei people, what's the best cd copying program for ubuntu?09:14
sobersabretrappist, if you wish to have one .c file tabs of 4 and another of 8... can you do this ?09:14
omegI logged into phpmyadmin with "admin" and "".09:14
naliothklaym: k3b09:14
omegI guessed them and they seemed to be the default values09:14
klaymnalioth: k09:14
korhalfso back to hostnames lol09:14
_jasonCaptainMorgan, that's fine, here is what you have to do: in lines 31 and 33 (refer to your pastebin) replace http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu09:14
trappistsobersabre: yes, by putting vim commands in a comment in the c files09:14
mcphailjpanega: mysqld. It will delete the mysql server and all the config files. Give you a clean slate to restart.09:14
kevinI am the only user on my Ubuntu system and need to edit a file.  I get the message that I am not the owner of the file and therefore can't edit it.  how do I become the "owner" or establish the rights to edit the file???09:14
CaptainMorganomeg I've got all the packages from synaptic,  << would your comp slow down if you actually had every package?09:15
sobersabre;-) just checking :)09:15
ElitePetekevin use sudo09:15
korhalfkevin, theres two users, root and your user.09:15
ElitePetesudo gedit file name09:15
korhalfsobersabre, think of a linux hostname GOOG09:15
korhalfsobersabre, quick09:15
trappistsobersabre: like this: # vi: et sw=2 ts=209:15
ElitePetewhats a good gnome theme website?09:15
djm62kevin: use sudo gedit... it's a safety feature, so you can't accidentally mess something09:15
jpanegamcphail: i get a couldnt find package mysqld09:15
kevinHow do I log in as "root"?  I thought Ubuntu did not use root?09:15
sobersabretrappist this won't work... s/et/set/09:15
korhalfElitePete, gnome-look.org09:15
_jasonubotu, tell ElitePete about themes09:15
korhalfkevin, it doiesnt, use sudo09:15
djm62ElitePete: art.gnome.org, themes.freshmeat.net (freshmeat used to be good, anyway)09:15
trappistsobersabre: it works here09:15
korhalfkevin, if you want a prompt, sudo -i09:16
ElitePetespank ya09:16
ElitePete:-009:16
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sobersabrekool :)09:16
mcphailjpanega: sorry, mysql-server09:16
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trappistsobersabre: I mean et works here.  I dunno if I understood your question correctly.09:16
ndlovutrappist: thanks, working09:16
sobersabretrappist you understood correctly.09:16
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_jasonCaptainMorgan, if you are in the us you can even put http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu09:16
Madeyeguys, where is the firefox cache folder?09:17
korhalfwow, we actually have some users on mirc09:17
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sobersabreMadeye it is defined in Firefox settings.09:17
ElitePetehm09:17
djm62korhalf: ubuntu is meant to be friendly for windows refugees ;)09:17
korhalfdjm62, ahha, refugees.09:17
CaptainMorganjason.. are you meaning I paste the actual link you're pasting above in place of where the links are in lines 31 and 33 ? I was going to those link thinking what the hells this ?09:17
naliothkorhalf: please dont do that again09:17
jpanegamcphail: same thing...reformat?09:17
omegHmm09:18
omegOkay, so MySQL and PHP are up and running09:18
Madeyesobersabre, it's not09:18
_jasonMadeye, default is in .mozilla/firefox/*.default/cache09:18
korhalfnalioth, give me a good hostname09:18
_jasonmaddler, and that's in your home directory09:18
ElitePetehalfkor ;-)09:18
omegI made Apache point to /home/michiel/Server/ instead of /var/www/ because I don't have write permissions there and thus can't make files09:18
mcphailjpanega: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server09:18
naliothkorhalf: open a dictionary randomly and drop your finger09:18
omegBut it seems this causes problems09:18
omegOr maybe it's still something else..09:18
korhalfhm maybe i can write a script, to grab a random string from the dictionary on the computer09:18
NCLifenalioth, when i put in that command it says: "dpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):" "cannot access archive: No such file or directory09:18
_jasonkorhalf, I use brands of portuguese water, you can have one, try: caramulo09:18
korhalf_jason, woah09:19
CaptainMorganjason?09:19
hmpedersenJust started downloadin the amd64 iso..09:19
omegI guess this is what happens if someone who's not experienced messes around to try and get it to work :P09:19
korhalf_jason, thats unique man09:19
djm62korhalf: choose a theme... bands, artists, composers, rappers, planets, stars, sports teams, booze types, wines?09:19
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naliothNCLife: you'll need to be in the same directory as the file when you issue the command09:19
ElitePetekorhalf, check this out http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32551&PHPSESSID=0b40a6707c4e7fd3981ac7a247d2cf8709:19
korhalfi want a nice smooth name09:19
jpanegamcphail: same09:19
korhalfnot one thatshard to pronounce09:19
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NCLifenalioth, i dl the file on my desktop, what must i do?09:19
djm62korhalf: korhalf@gewurztraminer ;)09:20
korhalfhah09:20
_jasonCaptainMorgan, sorry, please prefix my name with a _ so that I can see the highlight.  Yes actually replace the text in the file09:20
ElitePetekorhalf, what did you think of that theme09:20
naliothNCLife: in your terminal, type "cd Desktop" and then run the dpkg command09:20
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NCLifeoh, okayz09:20
mcphailjpanega: well, i'm not sure. You could try asking on the forums or #mysql09:20
_jasonCaptainMorgan, when you are done, you can pastebin it again so we can make sure it is okay09:21
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jpanegamcphail: thanks for your help!09:21
NCLifenalioth, it says "bash: cd: No such file or directory09:21
mcphailjpanega: well, it didn't help much...09:21
korhalfElitePete, i think thats dope, its nice09:21
korhalfElitePete, ive wanted a darker theme too, easier on the eyes09:21
ElitePetehmm, how i install it?09:21
ElitePetei'm new to ubuntu ;-)09:21
korhalfElitePete, just go to themes under preferences, and navigate to the .tar.gz09:21
ElitePetekk09:22
naliothNCLife: join #ubuntu-offtopic please09:22
NCLifeyep09:22
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ElitePetewow this theme is sexay09:22
xkahnAlright.  This is probably a FAQ somewhere, but it's driving me crazy.09:22
xkahnWhy is ubuntu so slow?09:22
CaptainMorgan_jason http://pastebin.com/46569709:22
korhalfElitePete, are the buttons easy to read and stuff09:22
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xkahnMy screen redraws are glacial.09:23
korhalfElitePete, because ive had problems with other themes.09:23
Amaranththe live cd is slow, i've never had problems with the installed version09:23
CaptainMorgan_jason but Im still getting 'some urls were not suitable...." from amarok..09:23
xkahngnome-terminal is so slow, I shouldn't be using it.09:23
ElitePetenope09:23
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ElitePetethe buttons arent even showing up.09:23
ElitePete...09:23
xkahnBUT!  I appear to be correctly using the NVIDIA graphics drivers.09:23
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djm62dra: what's the m-variant?09:23
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djm62I used to use rxvt09:24
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korhalftrappist, you own linuxkungfu.org or?09:24
trappistyeah09:24
mcphailxkahn: is there something using up your memory/cpu on "top"?09:24
dradjm62: I don't know... ;)09:24
xkahndjm62: I'd probably switch to xterm or something like it, but I kinda like the tabs.09:24
CaptainMorgan_jason .... oh maybe I need to fun apt-get update ?09:24
xkahnmcphail: no.09:24
dradjm62: it supports unicode, truetype and font AA, maybe that's it09:24
xkahnmcphail: well, I have a lot of RAM in use, but I'm not swapping much.09:24
CaptainMorganhahah... thinks it's working now..09:24
_jasonCaptainMorgan, yes, but actually I am not sure if hoary extras exists there or not.  Try apt-get update and see09:24
korhalfhold on, trappist did you design ipkungfu?09:24
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trappistkorhalf: yeah09:25
korhalftrappist, i used to use that on my old debian system, come to thikn of it,i dont even use firewalls anymore09:25
draxkahn: mrxvt has tabs ;)09:25
djm62xkahn: if you're on limited hardware...fluxbox: now everything is tabbed! ;)09:25
mcphailxkahn: yes, but is any one process hogging ram?09:25
trappistkorhalf: cool :)09:25
korhalftrappist, props man seriously, its a nice script09:25
trappistthanks :)09:25
an_drewamarok crashes on me constantly. I've tried different engines but it still crashes. I've tried some things suggested in the forums but no luck. Any ideas?09:25
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CaptainMorgan_jason maybe the first link without the us. ?09:25
xkahnmcphail: Well, firefox is using 12% of my RAM.09:25
xkahnmcphail: Nothing shocking there.09:25
CaptainMorganstill receiving errors'09:25
rateroHello Ubuntu users!09:26
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mcphailxkahn: gdesklets / 3ddesktop?09:26
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xkahnmcphail: ha!  no.09:26
thrice`is there a site that displays security updates ?  a sort of changelog?09:26
xkahnseriously, I'm not doing anything too special.09:26
xkahnswitching desktops takes about a second too.09:26
_jasonCaptainMorgan, I'm sorry, we shouldn't have replaced that last line with the extras... you can change it back09:26
xkahnit seems like the video driver is slow.09:26
mcphailxkahn: anything sending tons of errors to syslog or the like?09:27
_jasonCaptainMorgan, http://pastebin.com/465678 use line 33 from there09:27
xkahnlesse...09:27
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_jeffhey guys09:27
CaptainMorgan_jason change them back to to backports ?09:27
SamuelClydeCan anyone tell me if its possible to reconfigure my network settings though SSH on my server box to i can plug it into my Hub and not my Router?09:27
ElitePetehey korhalf,09:27
_jeffcan anyone explain to me why i would want to recompile a kernel?09:27
ElitePetei found a black one that actually works. hold on i'll link ya.09:27
_jasonCaptainMorgan, yes only line 33, line 31 keep it as archive.ubuntu...09:27
naliothubotu: tell CaptainMorgan about backports09:27
ElitePetehttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2581509:27
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korhalfElitePete, hmm09:28
djm62_jeff: if you wanted features not in the ubuntu kernel, or if you wanted features removed (for reasons of space, security, or memory)09:28
ElitePetebuttons show up fine.09:28
korhalfElitePete, im just seeing if i like it ornot09:28
korhalfElitePete, im really picky heh09:28
nickrud_jeff, in general, if the default kernel does not support your hardware, and there's some experimental stuff that was left out that might support it. Or for fun.09:28
_jasonnalioth, he's on hoary, do the extras still exist on mirrormax?09:28
xkahnmcphail: nope.  Doesn't look like it.09:28
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xkahnWell, maybe I can run a more intelligent way to check that...09:29
korhalfthat guys got the best mplayer skin ive seen in mylife09:29
djm62_jeff: also, because you might be a CS student or curious person who wants to see how it works, and maybe modify it on your own...you probably don't want to, but you have every right to ;)09:29
nalioth_jason: mirrormax is gone for good, use official backports09:29
xkahnmcphail: Actually, I'm seeing a number of these:09:29
ElitePetehttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13339 that looks good also korhalf,09:29
xkahnmcphail: Dec 15 15:28:15 zoned kernel: [7143480.449000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).$09:29
_jeffdjm62, nickrud: i see, thanks guys09:29
nickrudmebsd, I quit playing with the kernel when they stopped releasing stable versions :)09:29
_jasonnalioth, is there a mirror for hoary-extras?09:29
nickrudsorry mebsd , tab completion brainlock09:30
CaptainMorganE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? << I have no idea...09:30
korhalfElitePete, oh i tried that one, buttons dont show up09:30
_jasonCaptainMorgan, do you have synaptic open or something similar?09:30
ElitePetethe darknight one?09:30
ElitePetethanks for the heads up :-)09:30
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mcphailxkahn: hmm - odd. Tried googling that?09:30
sam_hey09:30
CaptainMorganthat's it..09:30
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xkahn(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized09:31
xkahn(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture09:31
xkahn(**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled09:31
xkahn(==) RandR enabled09:31
xkahn(II) Initializing extension GLX09:31
korhalfElitePete, well maybe it was my brightness, but it just looked bad, like the default skin for xmms, i hate that09:31
xkahnSo that looks good...09:31
sam_better still hello all09:31
korhalf!paste09:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text09:31
naliothxkahn: no more pasting please, see the /topic09:31
sam_I am looking to buy a wireless card today any suggestins09:31
naliothubotu: tell sam_ about wireless09:31
ElitePetekorhalf, the dark sigel with cherry soda icons and a black and red background looks great, i'll give you a link of mine one minute.09:31
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trappistsam_: anything with an atheros chipset09:31
lordluclessMy cron isnt running its jobs when its supposed to - jobs scheduled for 3:25 in the morning are running run at 7:35. "date" returns the correct time and /etc/timezone is set to the right zone09:31
nickrudxkahn, I get those on my multimedia keys that aren't defined, there's a method where you use setkeycodes to turn those into known keys09:31
lordluclessAnyone know anything else that could cause cron to misfire?09:31
korhalfElitePete, lol dont bother sending me all these links, im at my co op placement (16 years old doing network installations lol), when i get home ill come back, hopefully  youll be here09:31
sam_anything09:32
xkahnnickrud: This is a true blue IBM AT keyboard.09:32
naliothsam_: ubotu is sending you some info on wireless products that work with ubuntu09:32
xkahnnickrud: multimedia wasn't even invented yet when this keyboard was released.09:32
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xkahn:)09:32
naliothsam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards09:32
[paZx] Hi to all. I'd like to use gnucash on ubuntu ppc, but when i launch gnucash i have a xorg crash. this is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5794 . Any help?09:32
ElitePetelol korhalf09:32
AcuumHello, can somone tell me how to pronouse ubuntu?09:32
CaptainMorgan_jason apt-get update went successfuly but not the retrieval of gstreamers... http://pastebin.com/46571609:32
sam_thanks09:32
nickrudxkahn, the one with the lovely click? I wish I still had mine09:32
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_jasonAcuum, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation09:33
xkahnnickrud: Well, other people have had different discriptions for the click.09:33
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djm62Acuum: oobOOntoo09:33
Acuumgenius Thanks _jason.09:33
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xkahnnickrud: my college roommate hated it...09:33
nickrudxkahn, don't listen to them, let them listen to you :)09:33
xkahnBut yes.  That's why I have it.  :)09:33
Acuumeven better djm6209:33
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CaptainMorganthis sux.. I had amarok working before the reinstallation of ubuntu.. now I can't get it work09:34
gmoneyHello.  How is everybody doing today?09:34
korhalfi dont like that long pronounciation, ooboontoo is too long09:34
Madeyeanyone using toshiba  tecra s2?09:34
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xkahnah.  known problem with ubuntu's "hotkey-setup" application.09:34
_jasonCaptainMorgan, what exactly are you typign to install gstreamer?09:34
_nullShould I download dapper-install.iso or can i upgrade from a breezy installation without problems?09:34
korhalfi still say you-bun-too, and and gnome, instead of Guh-nome09:35
mrtwisterhello, hcidump do not provide me hci0... all drivers ok, lsmod, dmesg, /var/log/messages ok, all drivers found, no error... what shall i do?09:35
korhalfdamn still cant think of a hostname09:35
CaptainMorganwhat nioliath and ubotflu says: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg09:35
mcphailxkahn: does it explain the lag?09:35
gmoneyI was wondering if anyone could help me out.  I am having a difficulty adding applications on Ubuntu breezy09:35
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nalioth_null: you can update online09:35
xkahnmcphail: sadly, no.09:35
xkahnmcphail: but now my logs will be much cleaner!09:35
Hentai^XPsup nalioth09:35
djm62btw, latest issue of http://www.developments.org.uk/ magazine had ubuntu...people are noticing09:35
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mcphailxkahn: does the age of your processor match the vintage of your keyboard?09:35
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xkahnmcphail: haha.  You mean a 286?  Does ubuntu even run on 286s with 1Meg soldered in RAM?09:36
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naliothxkahn: not many linux distros run on 286 boxes at all09:36
AcuumPeople are noticing, article in PCworld this month, thats how im here!09:36
ndlovugmoney: what applications are you wanting to add?09:36
mcphailxkahn: wow - who could ever use a _full_ meg of ram???09:36
xkahnmcphail: No.  The machine is somewhat nice, and should probably be running pretty well.09:37
_jasonCaptainMorgan, I don't think that package is in the hoary repos09:37
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xkahnmcphail: Well, sure.  That's a lot of bits in there.09:37
CaptainMorgan_jason any idea as to what I should do get amarok to play ?09:37
cyphaseif i have a seperate hard drive as my home directory, and i install dapper (when it's finished), will it upgrade smoothly?09:37
sam_thanks to all for the advice. I am off to go shopping09:37
sam_later09:37
cyphaseor will there be errors?09:37
CaptainMorganhad it working before09:37
djm62Acuum: how are you finding it?09:37
xkahnAre there any graphics speed tests easily available?09:37
Acuumarticle in a magasine.09:38
mcphailxkahn: is it just gnome-terminal that lags?09:38
djm62xkahn: glxgears, if you have acceleration09:38
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xkahnmcphail: Well, gnome-terminal is so slow it's slowing down compiles.  switching virtual desktops takes around a second.09:38
gmoneyndlovu:  anything really.  when i attempt to add an application i get a parse error in the terminal after the files are finished downloading.09:38
djm62Acuum: I mean, how are you enjoying it, adjusting to differences, all that stuff.  how you doing? ;)09:38
vicksxkahn: i'm a total noob so i should probably stay out of this, but i experienced poor performance on an ati card with ati drivers (notorious i know), but switching to vesa took care of it09:38
PoWHow would I find the drivers for my HP printer to allow it to work with my ubuntu setup?09:39
whaley_workspeaking of screensavers: is it me or is fireworkz(sp?) really really slow compared to other gl screen savers09:39
naliothcyphase: the upgrade should be fine, however dapper is still in developement which means it can and will break before april09:39
CaptainMorgan!mp309:39
shanonxhow do I change my sound and mouse themes?09:39
xkahndjm62: glxgears isn't printing out any speed numbers.09:39
xkahndjm62: but it runs fairly smoothly.09:39
djm62PoW: have you tried seeing if it is already supported?09:39
whaley_workxkahn: change the glxgears settings to show fps09:39
Acuumim not there yet, downloading a live disk at the moment, 5 mins left. dont have a spare hdd to put it on at the moment09:39
djm62PoW: a lot of HP printers are09:39
Acuumill let you latter.09:39
_jasonCaptainMorgan, you can try installing the ones listed here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs (except for w32codecs)09:39
ndlovugmoney: what are you using when you try to install? synaptic, add applications, apt-get?09:39
cyphasenalioth, i know it is, but when it's done..09:39
PoWhmm09:39
PoWWell how would I check?09:40
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cyphasefor example, will the new gconf be able to read my gconf settings?09:40
gmoneyshanonx:  click on system, then click preferences, and then click either sound or themes09:40
cyphasefrom the breezy install09:40
Acuum"how are yo finding it..." and i just understood what you meant, its late here, and ihave a glass of wine09:40
djm62PoW: System->Administration->Printing09:40
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mcphailxkahn: if you launch gnome-terminal from the command line, does it give you any unusual errors?09:40
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_jasonubotu, tell me hello09:40
djm62PoW: plug in the printer first, I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised09:40
pbransfordanyone have any good links for configuing wine?09:41
naliothCaptainMorgan: stay away from ubuntuguide, please09:41
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gmoneyndlovu:  i've tried to add via synaptic and ad application...i have also tried to do an update on the terminal, and it did update the package lists, but i just cant get it to install.09:41
xkahnwhaley_work: djm62: 1716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 343.086 FPS09:41
gmoneyshanonx:  did that work?09:41
xkahnso that's pretty good, I guess.09:41
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ilPxsalve09:41
CaptainMorgannalioth - it was your ubotflu page09:41
xkahnvicks: It's possible that the driver is bad, true.09:41
_jasonnalioth, is gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse in hoary multiverse?09:42
ilPxci siete09:42
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xkahnmcphail: Hmm...  That might be tough to try...09:42
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ndlovugmoney: what error does it give you?09:42
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shanonxgmoney: when i go into sounds... i dont guess there is like an install theme type button you have to enter all the filenames manually?09:42
gmoneyndlovu:  hang on i'll type the whole thing for you09:42
ilPx????09:42
ilPxhallo09:43
PoWIt is plugged in and turned on. Nothing is detected.09:43
trappist!it09:43
gmoneyshanonx: i am not sure...sorry.09:43
trappistdid we lose the bot again?09:43
djm62PoW: and when you go to System->Administration->Printing can you find the make and model?09:43
_jasontrappist, seems so, he hasn't been responding09:43
shanonxgmoney: ok thanks09:43
xkahnmcphail: it says: (gnome-terminal:10508): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed09:44
trappistwho runs the bot?09:44
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xkahnmcphail: but that seems okay.09:44
trappistilPx: try #ubuntu-it09:44
mcphailxkahn: that sounds like the usual09:44
PoWNo09:44
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nickrudtrappist, cafuego I believe09:44
xkahnWell, I guess this isn't a faq then.09:44
xkahn:)09:44
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gmoneyndlovu: preconfiguring packages ...      dpkg:  parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 17516 package 'libopencdk8':       empty file details field 'Size'09:44
nalioth_jason: no, but gstreamer0.8-mad is available (and the others), just not the -plugins metapkg09:44
mcphailxkahn: runs sweet as a nut here.09:44
trappistubotu's the best infobot I've ever seen... when he's here09:45
Stormx2hmm09:45
gmoneyshanonx:  yeah i wish i could help you more.  i am new to ubuntu myself.09:45
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shanonxgmoney: know much about chaning the mouse pointers?09:46
gmoneyndlovu:  does that make any sense to you?  i can tell that there's a problem with the libopencdk8 (a library file??), but its kind of greek to me.09:46
lordluclessMy cron isnt running its jobs when its supposed to - jobs scheduled for 3:25 in the morning are running run at 7:35. "date" returns the correct time and /etc/timezone is set to the right zone. Anyone know what could cause this?09:46
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gmoneyshononx:  not really, but hang on i will see if i can change my pointer.09:46
jgrievesshanonx sudo apt-get install xcursor-themes09:47
ndlovugmoney: can't say I know the solution, but google is turning up a couple of things...09:47
jgrievesshanonx i think09:47
djm62PoW: what make and model is it?09:47
jgrievesshould bring up some new ones for you09:47
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_jasonnalioth, oh ok thanks, I didn't realize it was just pulling things in so I figured the list at ubuntuguide would do09:48
gmoneyndlovu:  i googled "libopencdk8" adn it did return a few pages, but none seemed to help09:48
_nekostareh sup all09:48
ndlovugmoney: check this page, maybe it'll help you: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/08/msg01475.html09:48
thegladiatordo you ugys have any problem with firefox ? i find ff close automatically sometimes09:48
djm62hmm, the kink community comes to #ubuntu09:48
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_jasonCaptainMorgan, if you are still missing codecs, you can install everything marked with a red circle at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse09:48
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starscallingso im currently running kde and gdesklets09:48
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starscallingand the desklets laaaaaaaaaaag.. is there a way to fix this?09:49
nickrudlordlucless, anacron is running those tasks for you; change the scheduled time in /etc/cron.d/anacron09:49
xkahnmcphail: that's pretty frustrating.  Are you using NVIDIA?09:49
starscallingi have no vid card on this system atm09:49
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mcphailxkahn: yes09:49
gmoneyshanonx:  no i am not sure how to change the pointers...i think you need to find a new cursor theme.  my ubuntu only has one cursor theme listed under "system, prefs, mouse": the "human" theme09:49
lordluclessnickrud, ahh, yes, it is09:49
Stormx2Seveas, you about?09:49
mcphailxkahn: but Putty to CLI at the moment09:49
PoWdjm62, It's actually connected via a PCI usb 2.0 card. I'm thinking I need the drivers for that card first.09:49
xkahnmcphail: ah.  Well, text works great.  :)09:50
mcphailxkahn: screen is the best!09:50
shanonxgmoney: yea if you type "sudo apt-get intstall xcursor-themes" it will add a few more for you09:50
ndlovugmoney: I'd try dpkg --clear-avail09:50
ndlovu, but I'm a user myself so could be giving you some dangerous advice!09:50
gmoneyndlovu:  thank you very much.  i am going to read that page, and i may ask another question or two if i need it. lol.09:50
djm62PoW: have you any other usb device to test with the card?09:50
xkahnmcphail: I'd be curious if your X.log.0 file show NV-GLX and NV-CONTROL being loaded.09:50
gmoneybrb09:50
mcphailxkahn: one moment09:50
PoWno09:51
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CaptainMorgangoddamit this is frustrating09:51
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k31thyo09:52
nickrudCaptainMorgan, you could try aptitude search ^gstreamer , and install anything not installed09:52
naliothCaptainMorgan: install using synaptic "gstreamer0.8-mad" for mp3 playback capabilities09:52
gmoneyndlovu:  so i should just type "dpkg --clear-avail" into the terminal in order to clear that file that is returning a parse error?09:52
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ndlovugmoney - as far as I can tell, yes09:52
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gmoneyndlovu:  ok. i will try it.09:52
djm62PoW: can you get to the bit where you select manufacturer and model (with non-autodetected printer)09:53
mcphailxkahn: seem to be09:53
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xkahnmcphail: huh.  The odd thing is that glxgears appears to be CPU limited, not GPU limited.09:53
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gmoneyndlovu:  i tried it and it said "dpkg: bulk available update requires write access to dpkg status area09:53
gmoney"09:53
xkahnmcphail: I get an okay frame rate (300s) but my CPU is pegged, and top shows glxgears using 90% of it.09:54
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mcphailxkahn: i'd have thought you would get more than 300fps09:54
ndlovugmoney: if you try 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail'?09:54
djm62xkahn: are you low on memory09:54
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gmoneyndlovu:  so i typed 'sudo' before the command, and it asked me for my password, and then did absolutely nothing.... it just gives me another command prompt09:54
xkahndjm62: not particularly.  I'm not swapping much.09:54
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PoWYeah09:54
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gmoneyndlovu:  do u think it did anything?09:54
alanbcohenhello09:55
ndlovugmoney - sounds like it! try installing again and see what happens.09:55
xkahnokay.  So then it must be a driver.09:55
gmoneyndlovu: sweet.09:55
gmoneybrb09:55
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mcphailxkahn: did you follow the instructions in the wiki?09:56
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xkahnmcphail: probably not.  I'm looking now.09:56
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malloxhi all i have problems with sound cards..can somebody help me? thanx09:56
alanbcohenQuestion on changing network workgroup and machine names.  Where?09:56
naliothmallox: ask a specific question please09:57
ndlovugmoney: is it installing?09:57
alanbcohenI'm fairly new to ubuntu after running Mandrake for a while09:57
gmoneyndlovu:  YES!!! woo-hoo09:57
Stormx2heres one for you, any Gameboy emulators for linux?09:57
gmoneyndlovu: i cannot thank you enough.09:57
cmathesonStormx2: google09:57
mwethere are09:58
ndlovugmoney: glad it worked! :)09:58
malloxmalioth: i have realtek sound card, i instaled some codecs form realtek.com and after it cant find device..09:58
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Stormx2cmatheson: I know what google is, just wondering if anyone knew any off hand09:58
nickrudStormx2, apt-cache search gameboy came back with gngb and a couple of others09:58
Stormx2Yeah09:58
gmoneyndlovu:  me 2.  i am glad you helped me. i have been using ubuntu (and linux) for about a month, and that was honestly my only complaint.09:59
Stormx2I just ran a search on synaptic. it turned up nothing, but then I realised I was searching in name only09:59
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naliothmallox: i'm not too helpful with sound issues. but i dont think extra codecs are necessary09:59
foampeacehi09:59
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crimsunmallox: lspci -v |grep -i audio09:59
ndlovugmoney: it is nice I have to agree! glad you find it so usable so quickly.09:59
gmoneyndlovu:  it was a simple fix, and now i think i will ditch windows once i get some more experience under linux.09:59
crimsunmallox: what did you install?09:59
xkahnmcphail: Okay.  Let's see if that works now.09:59
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malloxnalioth: now i think too, but i dont know how unistall :(10:00
foampeacehow do you add irc:// as a registered protocol to firefox?10:00
gmoneyndlovu:  cool.  well thanks again for making my day.  good luck, and have a good holiday.10:00
gmoneybye10:00
ndlovugmoney - likewise. bye10:00
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naliothmallox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems10:00
corresponderhi10:00
jendaCan anyone tell me how to install a HP LJ 1020 Printer?10:00
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jenda!print10:01
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pipelinejenda: I think the LJ 1000s are a little more complicated than normal10:01
pipelinejenda: Because the printer has no firmware10:01
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pipelinejenda: or rather, no ROM10:01
pipelinejenda: You have to upload the printer's firmware to it every time it turns on10:01
malloxwiki ubuntu doesnt help..10:01
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jendapipeline: Ouch...10:02
Combat_Wombathi everyone10:02
crimsunmallox: see my statement above.10:02
alanbcohensmb4k comes up showing my machine is 'yam' on 'MSHOME'.  I never set anything to 'MSHOME'.  Need to change it to 'WORKGROUP' like the rest of my network.  Suggestions please.10:02
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DjLinXhow u remove a dir with sub dirs and files10:02
crimsunrm -rf10:02
ndlovujenda: I installed a LJ 1010 without any problems. not sure if 1020 is much different...10:02
jendapipeline: Actually - I leave it all on most of the time, so that's not really a prob, but where to look?10:02
pipelinejenda: Try linuxprinting.org ?10:02
jendandlovu: But how? It's not in the lists10:02
Combat_Wombatalanbcohen: I am having a similar problem10:02
malloxI installed codecs from http://www.realtek.com.tw/10:02
AcuumSorry new to this, using the live disk, can anyone tell me without me having to trawl through the FAQs if i can use WPA for my wifi connection or just WEP?10:02
foampeaceanyone know how to register irc as a protocol in firefox10:03
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jendapipeline: The first place I looked10:03
foampeaceirc://10:03
crimsunmallox: why did you do that?10:03
pipelinejenda: Also, install the foomatic-filters-ppds package.  Lots, lots, lots more printer definition files.10:03
xkahnmcphail: nope.  same.  And, just to annoy me, the configuration files look the same.10:03
xkahn:)10:03
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mcphailxkahn: :(10:03
jendapipeline: installed already10:03
mcphailxkahn: is it a reasonable graphics card?10:04
malloxcrimsun : 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)10:04
malloxwhat does it mean? im beginner..thanx10:04
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crimsunmallox: please paste the full output of ''lspci -vv'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:04
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Madeyeguys, How to change the default search engine in Firefox from google to a9.com ?10:04
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trappistMadeye: that's crazy talk10:05
starscallingeh10:05
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xkahnmcphail: Well, it's not the latest...10:05
xkahnmcphail: It's a GeForce210:05
Madeyetrappist, why10:05
starscallinggo to preferences its in there10:05
malloxcrimsun: i do that because i want to upgrade my drivers :/10:05
mcphailxkahn: ?? they need a different driver10:05
xkahnmcphail: GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR with AGP to be exact.10:06
xkahnmcphail: they need a different driver...  which one?10:06
crimsunmallox: why? Didn't the drivers work before?10:06
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Madeyestarscalling, I'm not talking about the default home page, or add engine, I'm talking about this 'when you select a text and then right click, you get "search web for "..." " that what i'm trying to change10:07
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malloxcrimsun : because it doesnt work with more streams..10:07
mcphailxkahn: give me a minute till i check something...10:07
xkahnokay.  Thanks.  I appreciate it.10:07
Acuum2djm62 well im on.10:08
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ndlovujenda - check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5777310:08
korhalfshit i rebooted my machine remotely, and i forgot that sshd doesnt run by default on startup10:08
korhalfim screwed10:08
crimsunmallox: but sound worked, no?10:08
malloxcrimsun: I pasted lscpi results on paste.ubuntu.. there are a lot of numbers..I dont know what to do..10:08
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mcphailxkahn: nvidia-glx-legacy10:09
XiCillinwhere are they kernel source files? i'm trying to patch my kernel10:09
malloxcrimsun: yes, worked, but just one stream..10:09
xkahn...yes...  I just saw that.10:09
mcphailxkahn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:09
crimsunmallox: please don't try to fix what isn't clearly documented :)10:10
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crimsunmallox: url?10:10
malloxcrimsun: now I know it..but what now?10:11
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XiCillincan anybody tell me where the kernel files are? google is no help at all10:11
korhalfkernel files?10:11
DRK13C10:11
shawarmaXiCillin: which files? The drivers or the image?10:11
Stormx2XiCillin:10:11
Stormx2XiCillin: apt-get linux-tree linux-headers10:11
korhalfor the sources/headers even10:11
Stormx2XiCillin: Or it might be kernel-headers, not sure10:11
shawarmaXiCillin: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1210:11
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XiCillini donwloaded the kernel 2.6.14.410:11
ndlovujenda - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=483600 seems to be more related to gnome10:12
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XiCillini run patch -p1 <patch> and it asks for a file to patch. i'm assuming its the kernel files10:12
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XiCillini thought it was /usr/src/linux10:12
XiCillinbut it doens' like that10:12
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crimsunmallox: give me the url to the paste, please10:12
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malloxsorry..but which url?10:13
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mweXiCillin: you're supposed to cd /usr/src/linux. then patch -p1 -i /path/to/patch to path the kernel sources10:14
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boodleanyone truly fix gnome-panels in dapper? (forum suggestions not work for me)10:14
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XiCillinmwe, i am in /usr/src10:14
XiCillinwhere i am running the commands10:14
crimsunmallox: the one you pasted the output of ''lspci -vv''10:14
XiCillini can't cd /usr/src/linux because it isn't a directory10:14
lucisWhy am I getting audio but no video from gstreamer?10:14
XiCillinlucis, codecs probably10:15
mweXiCillin: cd linux and try again if you wanna patch the kernel. and use the -i option patch before the path to the patch10:15
lucisxi, i've got the codecs i think, it won't play any video, no matter what the format10:15
jendaOK, I got it done thanks to the forum (the HPLJ1020 printer)10:15
llamuhspeaking of kernel sources, how do i get them?  my /usr/src/linux is empty when i try to apt-get the source it tells me "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"10:15
XiCillinroot@serenity01:/usr/src# cd linux10:15
XiCillinbash: cd: linux: Not a directory10:15
korhalfserenity is a good hostname10:15
mweXiCillin: you're also supposed to make a symlink from the current kernel source to linux10:15
korhalfmine ended up being "veela" easy to pronounce, not complex, rolls off the tongue10:16
XiCillini option? like: patch -i -p1 < 'patch'?10:16
mweXiCillin: ln -fns /usr/src/linux-xyz /usr/src/linux10:16
mweXiCillin: no10:16
lucisIs there a way to set reset gsteamer defaults?10:16
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mweXiCillin: either use < or -i, not both. same result10:16
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XiCillinok i'll try it with the i, mew10:16
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CaptainMorgank... got Totem to play mp3's.. but now I can't get Totem to play .wma's.. any suggestions ?10:17
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mweXiCillin: you should still make the symlink10:17
XiCillinmwe, same thing, its asking for the file to patch. or the kernel to patch10:17
LjLCaptainMorgan: try mplayer, they say it's better with that kind of formats10:17
shanonxDoes anyone know how to change your Mouse Pointer themes?10:17
_jasonCaptainMorgan, you need w32codecs10:17
malloxcrimsun: http://kup.me.cz/sound.txt10:17
pipelineCaptainMorgan: Install w32codecs.10:17
malloxcrimsun: thanx10:17
DaSkreechI heard that you can install something that allows you to mouse over a audio file and it will begin playing10:17
pipelineCaptainMorgan: It's a package.10:17
XiCillinmwe: should linux-xyz be the name of my patch?10:17
mweXiCillin: no10:17
XiCillinseems weird10:18
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pipelineDaSkreech: It's a nautilus plugin, it doesn't work well, and it's extremely annoying.10:18
CaptainMorganthought I already installed the codecs... any links ?10:18
LjLDaSkreech: that feature's there by default in KDE, not sure about gnome10:18
DaSkreechOk10:18
XiCillinthere is only 'linux' in that directory and nothing else (besides my kernel patch)10:18
LjLCaptainMorgan: try typing "apt-cache policy w32codecs" to be sure they're installed10:18
DaSkreechpipeline: Whats it called in case it gets better10:18
mweXiCillin: xyz is the kernel version. like ln -fns /usr/src/linux-2.6.14.4 /usr/src/linux or whatever your kernel source version is10:18
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pipelineDaSkreech: It won't.10:19
_jasonCaptainMorgan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba10:19
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CaptainMorgannone10:19
mweXiCillin: then cd to /usr/src/linux before trying to apply the patch10:19
DaSkreechpipeline: Confident eh?10:19
XiCillinthats not a directory10:19
XiCillini cna't cd to linux10:20
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mweXiCillin: is "linux" a link or what? ls -l linux10:20
crimsunmallox: looking.10:20
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mweXiCillin: I'm not sure what your project is10:20
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malloxcrimsun: :)10:20
crimsunmallox: ok, now I need the output from ''lsmod ; cat /proc/asound/cards''10:20
CaptainMorganerrors : http://pastebin.com/46579110:21
XiCillinmwe, i'm just trying to patch my kernel10:21
Stormx2Oh boy.10:21
_jasoncaplink811_log, where did you download the file to?10:21
Stormx2I'm down to emulating emulators10:21
XiCillinbut i can't cd to linux because /usr/src/linux isn't a directory10:21
_jasonCaptainMorgan, ^10:21
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XiCillinso when i try to patch it, the patch can't find the kernel10:21
XiCillini just need to know where the ubuntu linux kernel is so i can tell it what kernel to patch10:22
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mweXiCillin: then you need the source of your kernel and then recompile it and install the image. that's a lot to explain in irc. you should find a howto10:22
CaptainMorgan_jason ?10:22
XiCillinmwe, if i just want to install a patch i have to recompile the whole kernel?10:22
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malloxcrimsun: kup.me.cz/sound2.txt10:22
_jasonCaptainMorgan, did you read what it told you to do?  "download the file w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb to your Desktop"10:22
mweXiCillin: yes if it's a patch to the kernel10:23
DA_MELKMANhi... could somebody help me out with this problem: I just installed ubuntu and i can't change my screen resolution.. it's 640*480 now.. I have a voodoo3 card, which seems to be correctly detected..10:23
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DA_MELKMANI'm new with linux and a complete noob, sorry :)10:23
trappistXiCillin: kernel patches patch source code.  so you patch, rebuild, install.10:23
jendaDA_MELKMAN: you prolly need the proprietary driver [/guess] 10:23
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DA_MELKMANthx jenda, do you know where i can download it?10:23
crimsunmallox: how did you install the realtek drivers?10:24
DA_MELKMANand how to install it?10:24
korhalfDA_MELKMAN, why not just go to system > preferences and change the resolution ?10:24
XiCillintrappist, yea. i'm tryin to patch right now10:24
DA_MELKMANi can't..10:24
pigohi10:24
XiCillinbut its asking where the kernel files are or 'file to patch"10:24
DA_MELKMANit only says 640*480, can't change it10:24
jendaDA_MELKMAN: Sorry, I don't. But you can search the forums.10:24
DA_MELKMANok thx10:24
pigoi have 1 problem whit mount dvd10:24
trappistXiCillin: you need to install linux-source10:24
korhalfDA_MELKMAN, edit the xorg.conf10:24
XiCillintrappist, ok thanks10:24
korhalfDA_MELKMAN, change the modeline10:24
mwetrappist: he hasn't got the source or a clue how to configure/compile the kernel as far as I can tell10:24
DA_MELKMANok..10:24
llamuhwhen i try to apt-get the linux source i get "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"  can someone explain?10:24
DA_MELKMANi'll try it, brb10:24
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trappistmwe: yeah that seems to be the case10:24
CaptainMorganlooks like totem will be my new player.... so long amarok.. ;(10:25
pigoi am italian10:25
malloxcrimsun: downladed package, used tar -i..etc..why?10:25
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korhalfCaptainMorgan, mplayer for video, quodlibet for audio10:25
korhalfQuod Libet is the simply the best mp3 player ive ever come across10:25
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korhalfuh, no the before "simply"10:25
ndlovuDA_MELKMAN, check this also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d10:25
korhalfcoded in python, and supports gtk perfeclty :) goes perfectly, no need to download a theme for the audio player too10:26
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korhalfi used to use beep-media-player10:26
pigoHI I HAVE 1 PROBLEM WHIT DVD MOUNT!!! I AM ITALIAN10:26
CaptainMorgankorhalf - you spelling that correctly?10:26
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korhalfQuod Libet10:26
CaptainMorgancan't locate it10:26
mwepigo: cut the caps dude10:26
korhalfthats because the package name is10:27
korhalfquodlibet10:27
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korhalfif you arent sure, do 'apt-cache search Quod Libet' and you'll get hits10:27
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DA_MELKMANthx all10:27
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korhalfbtw, if any of you are concerned about screen realestate, Quodlibet has a little tray icon10:28
korhalfso you can close it and it still goes :)10:28
pigomwe: help me ....what I must make10:28
korhalfpigo, perhaps join the #ubuntu italian room10:28
korhalf!italian10:28
apollo2011how do I switch the default desktop manager? I have done this before but I can't remember the dpkg-reconfigure command10:28
pipelineapollo2011: reconfiguring any dm package will prompt you.10:29
pipelineapollo2011: e.g. xdm10:29
pipelinekorhalf: quodlibet is written in python, very painful.10:29
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korhalfapollo2011, you can do it in gdm, if you're running that10:30
_jasonpigo, /j #ubuntu-it10:30
mwepigo: put in the dvd and mount /media/cdrom probably10:30
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franfarHello10:30
germancitohi10:30
apollo2011korhalf: ok, how do I do it in there then?10:30
trappistman if quodlibet wasn't ugly I'd probably switch10:30
korhalfpigo, sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media10:30
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franfarCan somebody help me with bluetooth?10:30
korhalfapollo2011, easy, log out of this session10:30
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llamuhright so im still trying to get my proxim wifi card working and think it may be a atheros chipset so i went to 'make' the madwifi and found out that ubuntu doesnt install build-essential package so i installed it but when i go to make it says kernelpath not found so i check the path /usr/src/linux and there is nothing there so i attempt to apt-get linux-source and get "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list  .. any help?10:30
cyphasewhere is the apt lock file?10:30
thrice`what is the best way to stream video in firefox?10:30
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apollo2011korhalf: no the default10:30
korhalfapollo2011, then click on session before logging in and change it from "last" to the neew WM10:30
pigoI know that it must put of the parameters... which?10:30
korhalfapollo2011, yes, im telling you how10:30
malloxcrimsun: ??10:30
korhalfpipeline, why, whats wrong with python?10:30
cyphasei killed apt-get and *then* remembered i shouldn't :)10:30
markiveWhat about Bluetooth?10:30
thrice`streaming video in firefox anyone?10:30
crimsunmallox: I'm waiting for your answer to my question.10:31
pipelinekorhalf: You would get a much shorter answer by asking what's NOT wrong with python.10:31
korhalfthrice`, mplayer plugin for firefox10:31
cyphaseWhere is the apt-get lock file?10:31
thrice`is that the only way?10:31
korhalfpipeline, are you kidding? python is one of the best languages around10:31
malloxcrimsun: sorry which question?10:31
korhalfpipeline, i love python/ruby10:31
pipelinekorhalf: I have no civil reply to that.  Please do not continue.10:31
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franfarmarkive - I'm new to linux but I'm trying to make bluetooth to work in this laptop10:31
crimsunmallox: how you installed it. Your previous response does not give a complete sequence.10:31
korhalfpipeline, well name a few things wrong with it though, even though you claim the list is so long10:31
trappistI'm with pipeline on this.  wtf is a whitespace error?10:31
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korhalftrappist, the indentation helps eliminate the need for braces10:32
franfarthe thing is that I've achieved to send and receibe from laptop and cellphote10:32
korhalftrappist, plus it makes code readable so people dont obfuscate their shit unneedlessly10:32
pipelinekorhalf: Non-functional garbage collection.  Dreadful performance.  Ambiguous syntaxes.  Inconsistent whitespace significance.  Awful, horrible extension API.  Need I continue?10:32
trappistkorhalf: ruby gets along nicely without braces or whitespace nazism.  long live ruby.10:32
inxguys.....can somebody help me.....i got Totem + gstreamer to play mpeg.....and installed couple other player....when i'm trying to play wideo in other player i get video without da sound.....when i'm trying to get video in totem i get video & audio BUT video is not catching up with da audio...what to do?10:32
pipelinekorhalf: The indentation would be fine if actually worked.  As the interpreter will allow you to use spaces instead of tabs, or worse, mix tabs and spaces, very weird things can happen.10:33
mcphailThe forced indentation is the worst thing10:33
franfarbut ubuntu Updates keep making the sendto app to not allow me to send10:33
djm62korhalf: the indentation is arguably invisible unmatched braces, but I do like python10:33
malloxcrimsun: downloaded realtek..xxxx.tar.bz2 ... console tar xjvf realtek.tar.bz2..its all10:33
crimsunpipeline: / korhalf: this is -offtopic material.10:33
korhalftrappist, yes and for that you have to put "end"10:33
cyphaseWhere is the apt-get lock file?10:33
pipelinekorhalf: Of course, the little things like horrible performance don't bother me that much.  It's the absolutely, positively, totally broken garbage collection I find most deeply offensive.10:33
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inxguys.....can somebody help me.....i got Totem + gstreamer to play mpeg.....and installed couple other player....when i'm trying to play wideo in other player i get video without da sound.....when i'm trying to get video in totem i get video & audio BUT video is not catching up with da audio...what to do?10:34
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korhalfpipeline, i really enjoy not managing my own memory, tryout quod libet regardless, its great, and thats python :P10:34
pipelinekorhalf: Garbage collection was a Solved Problem before I was born, before Python was a twinkle in a moron's eye.  And yet Guido thought he was just smarter than fifty years of research and went on to implement a totally broken garbage collection scheme.10:34
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ndlovucyphase: this may give you some answers: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9404510:34
mwecyphase: removing it is not a good idea, probably10:34
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pipelinekorhalf: Heh, I have a very weird rhythmbox fork from before they switched to CVS that is very, very nice.  I do not think I will be abandoning it :P10:34
cyphasemwe, why?10:34
crimsunmallox: and where did you install it?10:34
crimsunmallox: I need the precise sequence of steps you took10:35
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mwecyphase: because it's there because something is using apt and needs the lock10:35
korhalfpipeline, oh i see10:35
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franfarWhy is Ubuntu keeping backwards the sendto app???10:35
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cyphasemwe, that's just it..10:35
cyphasei was running apt-get..10:35
cyphaseand i killed it10:35
CaptainMorganstill won't play .wma's..10:35
CaptainMorganafter running that command10:35
cyphaseso it couldn't free up the lock10:35
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malloxcrimsun: I put package at desktop and UNtar it..10:35
DA_MELKMANkorhalf, I ran a script that autodetected my voodoo3 card, but now it asks for the video card's bus identifier.. the strange thing is that it says PCI:0:0:1, but it's an AGP card...10:36
inxguys....10:36
CaptainMorganI downloaded it to my dekstop an ran the next command..10:36
CaptainMorgannothing10:36
mwecyphase: well in that case look in /var/lock10:36
inxguys.....can somebody help me.....i got Totem + gstreamer to play mpeg.....and installed couple other player....when i'm trying to play wideo in other player i get video without da sound.....when i'm trying to get video in totem i get video & audio BUT video is not catching up with da audio...what to do?10:36
DA_MELKMANcan i change PCI into AGP?10:36
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cyphasemwe, i did10:36
pipelinekorhalf: To add insult to injury, after it was discovered that the reference count gc didn't work (surprise, surprise), they didn't remove it because they didn't want to limit backwards compatibility with existing C modules.  Keep in mind that this decision was made when python had like, five users.10:36
cyphaseit's fixed now anyway10:36
CaptainMorganmplayer has completely lightened the songs... most of them.. whereas totem will play most everything but wmas10:36
PoWHow could I enable the buttons on the side of my mouse?10:36
PoWMouse_4 I believe10:36
crimsunmallox: and then?10:36
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pipelinekorhalf: So, as a result, today, we have a language which will, no matter what, leak memory.  If you use *any* external module in your python script, even some of the ones that come with the base python distribution, your python program will leak.  This is a pisser because it didn't have to be this way.10:37
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stimpieI have a scroll wheel on my keyboard, does someone know how to get that working?10:37
pipelinestimpie: If it was possible to make it work, it should already be working. :|10:37
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djm62PoW: did you get the printer working? I had to go (family now fed) earlier10:37
pipelineCaptainMorgan: Did you install the w32codecs package?10:38
malloxcrimsun: then ints end..I listened songs..after restart -> device not found..10:38
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DA_MELKMANndlovu, I ran a script that autodetected my voodoo3 card, but now it asks for the video card's bus identifier.. the strange thing is that it says PCI:0:0:1, but it's an AGP card...10:38
DA_MELKMANcan i change PCI into AGP?10:38
llamuhright so im still trying to get my proxim wifi card working and think it may be a atheros chipset so i went to 'make' the madwifi and found out that ubuntu doesnt install build-essential package so i installed it but when i go to make it says kernelpath not found so i check the path /usr/src/linux and there is nothing there so i attempt to apt-get linux-source and get "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list  .. any help?10:38
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pipelineDA_MELKMAN: Just leave it alone.10:38
DA_MELKMANpipeline: OK10:38
pipelineDA_MELKMAN: From the software's perspective, AGP devices are PCI bus devices.10:38
stimpiepipeline, well it has never worked under linux.10:38
DA_MELKMANi see, thx10:38
korhalfEw AGP?10:38
pipelinestimpie: Well, there you have it, then.10:38
korhalfsomeone still uses that?10:38
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korhalfPCI Express pal10:38
pipelinekorhalf: People will continue to use AGP for quite a few years yet, bud.10:38
pipelinekorhalf: PCI-E doesn't provide enough juice10:39
stimpiepipeline, cant I solve it by adding an 2e mouse to x.conf?10:39
pipelinekorhalf: And OEMs don't like filthy hacks.10:39
M_Cheevyheya folks... gotta few problems here and rather than ask y'all to debug them I figured I'd just to a reinstall.  Big concern is the 300+ meg I had to d/l to get to this point.  If I have a sarge install cd, can I use that as the source for .deb without breaking anything?10:39
korhalfpipeline, I'm certain AGP was just temporary10:39
crimsunmallox: uname -r10:39
korhalfpipeline, I used to run my Radeon chip on AGP till i realized i didnt want 20 FPS whilst playing CS:S10:39
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mweplease cut the off topic crap10:39
pipelinekorhalf: Well, as long as you have to plug cables from the power supply into the graphics card to make it work, there will continue to be a market for AGP cards.10:39
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crimsunI've already warned you guys to move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.10:40
mallox2.6.12-10-68610:40
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llamuhheh now i remember why i only run linux for a month out of every year for the past 7 years..   pretty sad when it cant detect one of the most popular wifi cards ever10:40
crimsunmallox: sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)10:40
stimpiellamuh, ask the manufacturer to create a driver10:41
M_Cheevystimpie: thankfully gone10:41
blahblahwhat packages do i need to install to start programming in C?10:41
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crimsunblahblah: build-essential10:41
djm62stimpie: too late...he'll use it (and break it) when it comes preinstalled10:41
Jaymacbuild essential10:41
Jaymacgcc10:41
gooniehow do I install mplayer? I get a message saying "mplayer-custom:10:41
goonie Depends: libavcodec2  but it is not installable"10:41
mcphailblahblah: vim10:41
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_jasongoonie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto10:42
blahblahk thanks...10:42
djm62aetheros works perfectly here, incidentally (although I didn't install through it)10:42
jendaI need help changing paper size in Ubuntu using foomatic. And changing it in the printer setup utility doesn't help10:42
M_Cheevyquick question, when ubuntu puts out a release, how synchronised are the .deb files with debian's sarge distro?10:42
goonie_jason~ thx10:42
malloxcrimsun: moment..modprobe alsa -> FATAL: Module alsa not found. can it do this shits?10:42
pipelineM_Cheevy: Not at all.10:42
pipelineM_Cheevy: Ubuntu forks from Unstable.  And it doesn't sync very well to that.10:42
mwegoonie: mplayer-custom. what the heck is that? mine is mplayer-38610:42
crimsunmallox: there's no module named alsa. Do what I told you, please.10:42
M_Cheevypipeline: bugger!  so a reinstall is not very desireable10:42
malloxok..10:43
pipelineM_Cheevy: I don't understand.10:43
pipelinejenda: Is the "printer setup utility" in question gnome-cups-manager? It may be that this issue is a limitation of the driver :|10:43
gooniemwe~ not sure really, says "this version is for your own machine" or something like that10:43
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M_Cheevypipeline: I've got a number of problems here. but don't want to re-d/l the 400+ megs it to get to this point.... I was thinking re-install using my sarge disk but....10:43
crimsunM_Cheevy: we do a massive sync with Sid at the beginning of each devel cycle, and periodically an autosync runs for Sid packages that are unmodified in the devel branch. If we make any changes specific to Ubuntu, then we hand-merge them.10:44
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malloxcrimsun: source busy10:44
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pipelinejenda: The LJ1k series have weird drivers, as I mentioned earlier, as they're not /really/ PS or PCL10:44
crimsunmallox: "source"?10:44
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pipelineM_Cheevy: It's distantly possible that you could upgrade *from* sarge to ubuntu, but I wouldn't want to try it.  Besides, what's wrong with sarge?10:44
mwegoonie: well I'd try mplayer-38610:44
M_Cheevyhmmm, maybe burning what I have down to a cd-rw...10:44
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kane__has anyone tried to run som Adobe porgrams under Ubuntu? (wine or cross. office) I mean like Photoshop CS, Premiere PRO, After effects...10:45
pipelineM_Cheevy: Let's put it this way: upgrading from sarge to ubuntu, you would end up replacing every single package on the system.10:45
malloxcrimsun: sorry..rm: cannot remove directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686//volatile': Device or resource busy10:45
kane__sorry for the spelling10:45
pipelineM_Cheevy: You wouldn't save any downloading.10:45
M_Cheevypipeline: nothing, but in my case, with dmraid, the installation under ubuntu was a hell of a lot easier and more "by the book" than with sarge10:45
XiCillinmwe, solved the problem, i'm just going to donwload the full source of the kernel instead of the patch its easier that way ithink10:45
crimsunmallox: are you using any binary-only modules (nvidia, ati hardware)?10:45
pipelineM_Cheevy: That's exceedingly odd, as one of the very few things that ubuntu shares with sarge is the installer.10:45
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mcphailkane__: i think that some of the older versions of photoshop run under crossover10:46
jendapipeline: The utility I mean is right clicking the printer in administration>printing. I know that people have managed to convince the computer that they're using a4, but I don't know how. This way it prints fuzzy (very).10:46
mweXiCillin: what patch is it?10:46
malloxcrimsun: nvidia grafiq card10:46
M_Cheevypipeline: wasn't thinking of upgrading from sarge to ubuntu, was just going to use the sarge dvd as ubuntu's source10:46
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DA_MELKMANallright, I'm sorry for being such a noob, but eh, how to start gnome from command line (somebody has to start learning somewhere eh :))10:46
XiCillin2.6.14.410:46
pipelineM_Cheevy: Err, well, that might work, sort of, but you'll end up with sarge installed.10:46
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M_Cheevypipeline: the issue isn't with the installer, the issue is with the quality wiki article that's very ubuntu specific... plus the kernel installed, is newer10:46
crimsunmallox: ok, find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko'|wc -l10:46
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stimpieDA_MELKMAN, sudo /etc/ini.d/gdm start10:47
M_Cheevypipeline: that's what I gathered from what you said and so I've dismissed it as an option10:47
mweXiCillin: yeah. configuring and compiling/installing it is quite a mouthful if you haven't tried it before though10:47
jroemlingjoin10:47
DA_MELKMANstimpie k thx10:47
stimpieiniT.d10:47
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M_Cheevypipeline: yes, surprising isn't it, someone who asks for advice and then listens to it and acts on it ;)10:47
kane__mcphail, is there something like trial of crossover? I'd like to try it (as it is comercial product)...10:47
crimsunM_Cheevy: cross-grades from Sarge are possible with Breezy.10:47
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XiCillinmwe, i've done it.10:48
steve_is anyone using MPlayer on Ubuntu? If so, how do you install codecs?10:48
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mcphailkane__: there used to be. Check their website10:48
crimsunM_Cheevy: not officially supported, of course, but they're possible.10:48
cafuego!test10:48
ubotfluStop poking me!10:48
M_Cheevycrimsun: sounds like it would be wiser not to go that route though....10:48
dooglusDA_MELKMAN: better is "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"10:48
CaptainMorganyes, pipeline, I installed the package..10:48
ndlovujenda: check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78272&highlight=paper+size10:48
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CaptainMorganaccording to that link..10:48
mweXiCillin: you already configured the kernel and compiled and installed it, then make grub use the new kernel and reboot?10:48
DA_MELKMANthx dooglus10:48
crimsunM_Cheevy: of course not, it's not an officially sanctioned path.10:48
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M_Cheevycrimsun: at this point I'll just check my usage stats and if I can just do it over from start...10:48
mweXiCillin: that must be a time record10:48
jendandlovu: thx... read through that at least five times already :(10:49
malloxcrimsun: nothitn done..10:49
lightbrightM_Cheevy: hi Mt Chase10:49
steve_anyone . . installing codecs for mplayer . .10:49
fojtr1amhello, can anybody explain the function of yaird command?10:49
M_Cheevywish I knew what screwed things up thoug so I could avoid it10:49
whaley_worksteve_ there is a package you can install.. i would normally refer to ubotu but he isn't here right now10:49
lightbrightsteve_: yes thats easy10:49
CaptainMorganmaybe I need to restart X10:49
M_Cheevylightbright: er, hello... what's Mt Chase?10:49
whaley_workand i don't have the info bookmarked on my windows machine :(10:49
crimsunmallox: "nothing done"? It's supposed to give you a number10:49
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cafuegowhaley_work: ubotflu is here, ubotus clone.10:49
lightbrightM_Cheevy: I meant Mr Chase, as in Chevy Chase10:50
whaley_worklol10:50
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malloxcrimsun: zero ..10:50
whaley_workgood enough10:50
_ToNhO_ do anybodyt have an ebook manual for gambas10:50
naliothcafuego: thank you.10:50
XiCillinmwe, haha no, i've done it *before*. but once i get my amd athlon64 X2 4800+ it'll take bou tthat long :-D10:50
stimpiesteve_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto10:50
M_CheevyLightbright: nope, not where the nick comes from... do a google on "Miniver Cheevy"10:50
fARbROr^KaLL3hmm.. any skandinavians here? :P10:50
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crimsunmallox: excellent :) Now, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)10:50
stimpiesteve_, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb10:50
cafuegoseeing as I can't get at them10:50
cafuegoand they're not answering the phone10:50
mweXiCillin: I see10:50
steve_whaley: I have already downloaded the different codecs, but dont know where to extract the codecs10:50
steve_lightbright: how is it easy? - Teach me :p10:51
gooniehow do I downgrade my ipw2200 module to 1.0.0 ?10:51
fARbROr^KaLL3 <-- does those work? :D10:51
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CaptainMorganstimpie, that's the one10:51
lightbrightsteve_: its very easy, believe me10:51
malloxcrimsun: downloading..10:51
mwegoonie: why would you want that?10:51
djm62fARbROr^KaLL3: assuming you want to sound like a norwegian in pain, yes10:51
fARbROr^KaLL3:D10:51
whaley_worksteve_, try: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:51
lightbrightsteve_: what is your objective?10:51
fARbROr^KaLL3damn.. why all the people whine about my charset :|10:51
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mwegoonie: it lacks features like proper dhcp support and stuff10:51
steve_stimpie: where do I input that line of commands?10:52
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malloxcrimsun: after restart gnome?10:52
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stimpieon console10:52
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steve_Lightbright: I would like to get wmv files to play10:52
lightbrightsteve_: use the shell10:52
crimsunmallox: no, reboot.10:52
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malloxcrimsun: or do you want see results?10:52
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lightbrightsteve_: wheres a website with  wmv ?10:53
stimpiesteve_, read whaley's link first10:53
gooniemwe~ because my wireless is fubar since I upgraded to breezy... I connect and everything looks fine but I don't get an IP.. static or DHCP.. This machine worked great with warty (ndiswrapper), worse with hoary (shaky ipw2200 module) and not at all now on breezy10:53
mwesteve_: look at the url whaley_work suggested10:53
butcherbirdany recommendations for sound mixer app? just simple stuff10:53
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cyphasedoes anyone know why network-manager requires bind9?10:53
gooniemwe~ I've read that ppl in my shoes have gotten results with 1.0.010:53
guerbyhi, should I use nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server on unbutu 5.10?10:54
cafuegoguerby: yes10:54
crimsunmallox: just reboot and ping me when you're back in GNOME.10:54
mwegoonie: I see. well get the source and firmware from ipw2200.sf.net and read "INSTALL" inside the tarball10:54
stimpieguerby, user is more secure/stable, kernel is faster10:54
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malloxcrimsun: ok..thanx..10:54
gooniemwe~ thx again10:54
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mwegoonie: iirc it tells you how to get rid of the old modules and install the new - or rather old one10:55
guerbystimpie, ok, I'll go for faster :)10:55
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ndlovujenda, try looking in /etc/cups/ppd/. I have to say I'm no expert on the subject, but the files there seem to be configuration files for the printers. You may have some luck editing them, or you may break your system :)10:55
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jendandlovu: thanks :)10:56
action09hi all, i know it's possible on Debian is it possible on Ubuntu to subscribe by mail to infos/version of a package (e.g. nvidia-glx) to know when next version will come..etc10:56
DA_MELKMANargh, is there some sort of safe mode to start gnome in (640*480 res)? Looks like i screwed up something, my monitor says "can't display this mode" :S10:56
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crimsunaction09: we have dapper-changes.10:56
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steve_stimpie: i inputed the command line, then they prompt me for a password10:57
stimpiethat is the password of the user with administrator rights10:58
stimpiebecarefully if he asks for that10:58
Squee-DWhat app can i use to profile my wireless cards throughput?10:58
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AudioMoveif you install ubuntu and install KDE later, how do i remove Gnome, apt-get remove gnome doesnt work, i says gnome is not installed.10:58
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LjLAudioMove: it's not very easy at all10:59
action09crimsun i'm searching only on Hoary10:59
HighHopesHello! I wish I could install xorg from scratch in my ubuntu breezy 5.10 that I've installed as server (to have a very clean installation) .. What apt-get package might I download? Thank you!10:59
LjLAudioMove: anyway, the package you're really looking for is "gnome-desktop", but that won't remove it either anyway10:59
LjLAudioMove: your best bet is probably to remove some low level packages that are required by most gnome programs, such as libgnome10:59
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AudioMoveso if i even try ill risk fucking up my system?11:00
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naliothHighHopes: xserver-xorg11:00
stimpieDA_MELKMAN,  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " to reconfigure11:00
LjLAudioMove: you will only risk if you remove packages that are not actually gnome packages, otherwise no11:00
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dell500does anyone know why  my screen might be going dull then bright, then dull again?11:00
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naliothdell500: old age?11:01
lightbrightsteve_: you really need to firstly learn basics of linux before attempting to install media support etc11:01
LjLdell500: sounds like a broken monitor11:01
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lightbrightsteve_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands11:01
AudioMoveLjL: cheers, ill give it a whirl, see what happens11:01
butcherbirddell500, my old monitor used to go dull and orange until i smacked it a few times :)11:01
jendandlovu: Yo! Found it, done it got it! Thanks a bunch.11:01
action09http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky.png wao :)11:02
malloxcrimsun: yuuuupi...thanx very very much:))11:02
lightbrightdell500: mine does that for about 6months now11:02
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DA_MELKMANstimpie, thx, but how do i omit the boot to gnome? to access command line?11:02
malloxcrimsun: Im indebted to you..how can I say thankyou?! :)))11:02
steve_actually I found out how to do it, but thanks for the link to the basic commands11:02
lightbrightLjL: no, its not a broken monitor for a broken monitor doesnt even work11:02
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naliothubotflu: tell DA_MELKMAN about bum11:03
Squee-Dlightbright not working to spec is 'broken'11:03
mwebutcherbird: then it broke completely? :)11:03
Xappedell500: first thing I do when the monitor behaves strange is to check the vga connector for bent pins11:03
lightbrightSquee-D: define broken11:03
naliothlightbright: if the monitor is going bad, it will exhibit those traits11:03
Squee-Di just did11:03
Squee-Dnot working to spec11:03
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Squee-D"outside of normal operating paramaeters"11:03
lightbrightnalioth: my monitor works and its been displaying those traits for 6moinths, doesnt mean its broken11:04
naliothlightbright: there are many levels of "broken"11:04
Kuyaedzsounds like the same issue I have when routing DVDs thru my VHS.  Maybe its copy protection, for your eyes lol11:04
lightbrightSquee-D: who created that defination of broken?  and who supports that defination?  canthat defination be found in any IT professional literary?11:04
lightbrightnalioth: according to whom?11:05
naliothlightbright: let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please11:05
Squee-Dlightbright im not sure, are you sure you have a more accurate description?11:05
Squee-DI only work on experience, as a repairman for several years, we'd call it broke if it didnt do what we want.11:05
naliothSquee-D: #ubuntu-offtopic please with this discussion11:05
lightbrightSquee-D: im asking you where you got that defination from?  from a well respected IT professional literay or source?  Or is that your "own" defination?11:05
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Squee-Dnal id agree but i dont think i'll give it more wind11:06
lightbrightnalioth: ok11:06
DA_MELKMANnalioth, thanks, but the problem is that I can't install bum because I can't reach command line or graphical interface.. is there not a button to goto command line interface automatically when booting?11:06
lightbrightSquee-D: lets keep the body air out of this ;) heh11:06
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crimsunmallox: np11:06
naliothDA_MELKMAN: i'm not sure how to do that11:06
hyperactivecrond!ntfs11:06
ubotfluextra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:06
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hyperactivecrondwhat's with the flu?11:07
crimsunaction09: nothing new goes into Hoary except for security fixes11:07
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cafuegohyperactivecrond: Backup bot11:07
action09crimsun hmm yes  even nvidia drivers ?11:07
crimsunthanks, cafuego11:07
crimsunaction09: nothing new.11:07
DA_MELKMANlike, windows has F6 button to boot to safe mode when you set a resolotion your monitor can't display or something like that... is there nothing like that for linux? else I'll have to re-install :(11:07
action09crimsun  ok thx :)11:07
lightbrightSquee-D Yes the more accurate definatio of 'broken' found in many IT professional literary and documentation is meaning it doesnt work as a whole!  Because the MAIN objective with a monitor is to DISPLAY, and if its still displaying its NOT broken11:08
lightbrightoops sorry that was provate11:08
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lightbrightprivate11:08
lightbrightcafuego: wb :)11:08
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jbroomeDA_MELKMAN: F8 for safe mode. :)11:08
DA_MELKMANjbroome, thx!11:08
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naliothlightbright: Squee-D #ubuntu-offtopic please.11:09
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malloxcrimsun: in spite of thank you very much ;-)11:09
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mweDA_MELKMAN: hey that was just a correction. wont work for ubuntu11:09
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thegladiatormy evince doesnt work11:09
lightbrightnalioth: ok11:09
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thegladiatorit was working but suddenly stopped working11:09
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thegladiatori am trying a complete removal of evince and reinstallation11:11
thegladiatorcan someone help me ?11:11
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thegladiatorevince is not working11:12
Kuyaedzthegladiator: do you need help with uninstallation & re-installation?11:12
thegladiatornope i did that11:12
thegladiatorreinstalled as well . thanks11:12
thegladiatorbut still not working11:12
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lillpellemaybe your .gnome2/evince directory is messed up11:12
Kuyaedzthegladiator: what is 'not working'? just doesn't start, doesn't open files correctly?11:12
lillpelledid evince work before?11:12
buliois Ubuntu quite secure for a home user?11:12
thegladiatordoesnt start11:12
thegladiatoryeah evince was working fine11:13
bulioor is security recommened11:13
thegladiatorsuddenly it started to say some error11:13
Kuyaedzbulio: it should be secure by default11:13
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Kuyaedzbulio: ...compared to the alternatives much more secure11:13
bulioso I don't need any other stuff11:13
thegladiatorThe Application "evince" has quit unexpectedly.11:13
thegladiatorYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.11:13
Kuyaedzbulio: you dont need spyware protection or antivirus, no11:13
thegladiatorand when i click restart it doesnt11:13
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bulioI come from unsecure windows ME hehe11:13
bulioworst hting on the planet11:13
bulioI know, no spyware11:13
Kuyaedzbulio: ME was the worst OS ever--worse than DOS :)11:13
buliovisited some shady sites to laugh ;)11:13
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bulioI know11:14
lillpellethegladiator: Try to remove the .gnome2/evince catalog11:14
malloxhave a nice time to all ubuntu peoples.. ;-)11:14
bulioI finally got a PC that runs linux11:14
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Kuyaedzbulio: you should be fine w/o any additional programs11:14
buliothe one upstairs has ME on it11:14
thegladiatorlemme try thar11:14
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bulioill never use it again heh11:14
Kuyaedzbulio: if you really want, however, you can install firestarter for firewall protection.11:14
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fweihdo you know any gui software in linux like flashget, getzilla, free download manger or any file download manger?11:14
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Ophiocusin x-chat client, is there anyway to actually edit manually which individual servers form a given network i can connect to? my client currently waists more than a minute trying to connect to an unexisting ip before trying another one11:14
bulioI have a router11:14
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buliosafe enough?11:14
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Kuyaedzbulio: safe enough11:15
buliok11:15
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mwebulio: I have a dedicated gaming pc with only windows xp as os on it. but I tend to use my ubuntu laptop much more11:15
thegladiatorlillpelle,  is it this folder? /home/thegladiator/.gnome2/evince ?11:16
thegladiatorit has a XML file in it11:16
thegladiatorand nothing else11:16
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lillpellethegladiator: yes that is the folder I meant... try to rename it to something and then try to start evince11:16
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dooglusOphiocus: you can, yes11:16
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Ophiocusneat, i wouldnt mind some spoon feeding11:17
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thegladiatorlillpelle, no luck it still remains11:17
lillpelleok :(11:17
ELpH95ohellooo11:17
thegladiatorThe Application "evince" has quit unexpectedly.11:17
thegladiatorYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.11:17
Kuyaedzthegladiator: kinda basic question, but have you rebooted?11:17
thegladiatori need evince badly11:17
ELpH95oi'm a ubuntu newb it's not a bad os11:17
thegladiatornope11:18
lillpellethegladiator: you try with different docs?11:18
thegladiatori logged out11:18
ELpH95oit's like debian with suse mixed up11:18
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thegladiatorof X and came back in11:18
Kuyaedzthegladiator: try a reboot & also try different docs. let us know11:18
thegladiatoryeah with different docs11:18
ELpH95oyup11:18
thegladiatoryes brb11:18
Ophiocusgreat, i ll find out then, thanks11:18
ELpH95oget this..debian is supposedly not easy but fedora wouldnt detect my es137111:18
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dooglusOphiocus: select 'server list' from the xchat menu, click the network name, then 'edit' and remove the rogue host11:19
ELpH95oubuntu automaticallly di11:19
DRK13unf unf11:19
ELpH95owith no work11:19
ELpH95othere are bugs though but that wil get fixed soon11:19
rosendooglus !11:19
Ophiocusthats not what i wanted11:19
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dooglusOphiocus: please excuse my slowness.  i'm typing one-handed11:19
dooglusrosen! :)11:19
Ophiocusi ll come back here when i find what i want11:19
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rosendooglus, I'll look you up a little later... you may need two hands for the problem I'm having ;) The ones I've tried to get to help me have given up :O11:20
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dooglusOphiocus: it may be that your client only knows 'irc.freenode.net', and that has multiple real addresses.  you can remove irc.freenode.net and add real addresses11:21
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Ophiocussee that panel only shows network dns s , am talking about actual ips11:21
Ophiocusbingo11:21
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ELpH95oI'm going to join the Ubuntu commjunity and contribute some of my time towards it11:21
KuyaedzELpH95o: great :)11:21
dooglusrosen: what's up?  the other hand can be retrieved with a little effort11:21
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Ophiocusthen again, the network am joining must have some kind of address list, i will try to find that and how to evade x-chats automated server selection11:22
thegladiatorlillpelle, Kuyaedz , yes it does work after restart11:22
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lillpellegreat11:22
thegladiatorthnkas for the help11:22
Kuyaedzthegladiator: perfect.  Not sure what would cause it but my system will act funny sometimes too.  reboots help (??)11:22
dooglusOphiocus: when you connect, it11:23
thegladiatorah ok . reboot helps11:23
dooglusOphiocus: will tell you the real host name, like kornbluth.freenode.net for instance11:23
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jroeshiya guys, it's unclear where I need to go to upgrade after searching Ubuntulinux.org, can anyone point me in the right direction?11:23
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dooglusOphiocus: the list is held server-side11:23
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Kuyaedzjroes: upgrade to?11:24
yo2luxhi11:24
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rosendooglus, when I try to download files from another computer on our LAN network most of the times it will stop when it reaches 100% and never actually 'complete' the download11:24
Ophiocusam more into finding a way to automate the /server [ip] [port]  call at startup so i can choose which actual machine i use11:24
jroesto the latest, from the previous version11:24
jroesI don't remember the names, they all sound so similar :)11:24
Ophiocusi supose i can script it11:24
dooglusrosen: what are you using?11:24
Ophiocusthank11:24
yo2luxi have a question11:24
bimberi!breezy11:24
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:24
Ophiocusbtw why one handed, you nursing while working like me?11:24
Ophiocus:D11:24
jroesthankyou very much11:24
Kuyaedzjroes: yeah, what ubotu said :)11:24
bimberijroes: ^^^11:24
yo2luxUbuntu go to commercial way in future?11:25
rosendooglus, I mounted his shared folder and I tried drag-drop and copy-paste .. I'm not sure how to do anything else to be honest11:25
dooglusOphiocus: do like I said.  edit the host in the network definition in xchat11:25
cafuegoyo2lux: No, never.11:25
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yo2luxCanonical not want to build an enterprise OS?11:25
Ophiocusso deleting the actual network name allows me to replace it with my server of choice?11:25
dooglusrosen: I've never seen that.  it's a windows share?11:25
cafuegoyo2lux: That's what Debian is for :-)11:26
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cafuegoyo2lux: I quote: Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition".11:26
thegladiatorwhats the worldwide estimate of ubuntu users ?11:26
dooglusOphiocus: no, edit the network, then edit the hostname11:26
dooglusthegladiator: 31.511:26
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yo2luxok guys thanks!11:26
thegladiator31.5 million ?11:26
rosendooglus, yeah I found his folder using his hostname (or IP) and the windows share protocol11:26
dooglusno, 31.511:26
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BenUrbanhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html11:27
BenUrbanany ideas?11:27
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ELpH95odamn 31.5. million including developers?11:27
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ELpH95ois ubuntu good for development?11:27
thegladiator3 million users ?11:27
thegladiatoryeah ubuntu is as good as any other lin for development11:27
ELpH95oI want to join the ubuntu project11:27
Ophiocusi ll do that will report on findings11:27
BenUrbanthegladiator: as good as gentoo?11:27
ELpH95obvy contributing art and music11:27
ELpH95oi say we could include some demoscene like tracker music on installation11:28
cmathesonBenUrban: why would gentoo be any better for development?11:28
BenUrbancmatheson: it's a source based distro11:28
thegladiatorBenUrban, gentoo is good for new linux users i wud say11:28
BenUrban...11:28
dooglusit depends what you're developing.  it's not the best os for developing windows games for instance11:28
cmathesonBenUrban: i'm aware of that... i still don't see how that's going to help me develop stuff11:28
thegladiatorbest distro for newbies as far as i know is xandros11:28
jroesBenUrban, ELpH95o: those are very generic and subjective questions.  get specific.  are you looking for a tool that's available on one and not the other?11:28
thegladiatorxandros does have gcc etc though11:28
ELpH95omostly just assemblers11:28
ELpH95omy needs are simple lol11:29
doogluseverything has gcc11:29
cafuegoELpH95o: Why not sound themes and gui themes? :-)11:29
thegladiatorbut a very good alternative for windows suers to make a switch to  linux11:29
ELpH95oi have the perfect linux hardware box11:29
BenUrbanevery linux distro worth the download has gcc11:29
ELpH95oa friend built it for me.the only thing it sucks is i hate acpi/apm technology11:29
thegladiatorxandros doesnt have gcc11:29
ELpH95oxandros doesnt have gcc11:29
dooglusthegladiator: sure it does11:29
BenUrbanthen xandros isn't worth the download11:29
ELpH95obut it's available right?11:29
cafuegoNormal end users don't NEED a compiler.11:29
ELpH95oi dont use C11:29
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thegladiatordoes it ? the oe i had didnt11:29
ELpH95oi use alot ofcompilers11:29
thegladiatorone*11:29
jroesELpH95o: you can disable ACPI/APM from most modern BIOS configuration utilities11:29
Kuyaedzcan anyone point me to a non-gui torrent client?11:30
BenUrbanElBarono: gcc is for *any* compilation11:30
ELpH95omy bios is old p4 bios11:30
cafuegoUbuntu also doesn't install a compiler by default.11:30
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yatesybittorrent? :P11:30
LefungusKuyaedz, rtorrent11:30
thegladiatoror perhaps i might have made a miostake11:30
dooglus'bittorrent', Kuyaedz11:30
jroesELpH95o: pretty much the same development tools are going to be available on every Linux distribution11:30
ELpH95oits a intel d850 board..(friend built it for me so i cant complain)11:30
ELpH95othat's good to know..brb.i instaled a new kernel hehe11:30
Kuyaedzbittorrent or rtorrent will run on a server install?11:30
jroesELpH95o: you can always compile the tools from source if there aren't any packages11:30
ELpH95othat's true11:30
BenUrbanno it's not11:30
BenUrbanlol11:30
BenUrbanhow do you compile a compiler without a compiler?11:31
dooglusKuyaedz: bittorrent will.  never heard of rtorrent so can't say11:31
ELpH95oi did a server install11:31
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Kuyaedzdooglus: thanks11:31
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gimmulf_best torrent gui client?11:31
[klined] what are some good wireless utilties that have win32 ports as well?11:31
gimmulf_!torrent11:31
dooglusgimmulf_: bitcomet is best i've found.  windows only though :(11:31
ubotugimmulf_: Are you smoking crack?11:31
jroesBenUrban: show me a distribution that doesn't have a package for *cc or doesn't come with it already installed.11:31
gimmulf_!bittorrent11:31
uboturumour has it, bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html11:31
thegladiatori like azureues bit torrent client Kuyaedz11:31
Squee-Dgimmulf_ azureus11:31
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mwewhat the heck kinda crappy distro is xandros to not provide gcc anyway?11:32
BenUrbanjroes: damn small linux, i think11:32
yatesyi think you just answered that one mwe :)11:32
dooglusazureus is what i use in ubuntu, but it's too memory hungry11:32
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thegladiatorits java based program , but azureus is pretty easy and powerful11:32
yatesyits java of course its memory hungry11:32
rosenKuyaedz, I'm fairly sure that bittornado is a terminal only program untill you add the UI from synaptic (or apt-get or whatever)11:32
LazyAce`in command prompt, how do i get it to read files off of the desktop?11:32
jroesBenUrban: Damn Small Linux has tcc11:32
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thegladiatorKuyaedz, try out azureues11:32
dooglusLazyAce`: what 'it'?11:33
jroeshttp://www.damnsmalllinux.org/notes.html -- see notes "Corrected bug with tcc."11:33
BenUrbanjroes: heh, i wouldn't know11:33
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jroesBenUrban: you're fighting an uphill battle :)11:33
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BenUrbanjroes: but that's beside the point11:33
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jroesno, you were already beside the point, that's the point.11:33
LazyAce`dooglus, right now my prompt is derek@Stewie:~$ how do i get it to desktop ?11:33
BenUrbanjroes: my point was that if there were any, it wouldn't be worth the download11:33
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dooglusLazyAce`: cd Desktop11:33
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cafuegoGogo Gadget Nalioth!11:34
BenUrbanhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html <-- any ideas?11:34
LazyAce`dooglus: says no such file or directory11:34
gnomefreaklazy use a cap D11:34
dooglusLazyAce`: capital D?11:34
butcherbirdLazyAce`, the ls command should show a Desktop directoy type cd Desktop to change dir to it it is case sensitive11:34
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LazyAce`thank you gnomefreak11:34
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LazyAce`no, i just didn't know =\11:35
LazyAce`new to this11:35
cafuegoBenUrban: With a CamelCase nick? Not likely.11:35
dooglusor even copy and paste!11:35
BenUrbanheh11:35
gnomefreakyw but dooglus typed it how it should have beeen typed :)11:35
yatesyLazyAce`: rubbish, they told you Desktop :P11:35
LazyAce`haha, my bad11:35
LazyAce`i forgot about cap sensitive :(11:35
cafuegosorry, camel_case :-P11:35
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thegladiatori wud like to install a IDE which one do you recommend ?11:35
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thegladiatoranjuta/kde/other ?11:36
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gnomefreakyou dont find alot of things in terminal that are case sesnitive but cd'ing to a dir is11:36
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doogluswindows trains people to ignore case I think11:36
gnomefreakanjuta11:36
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StR34kHas anyone done any work with mpi here?11:36
cafuegonalioth: Can ya ban 195.242.245.192 too? (spambots)11:36
LazyAce`yes it does :(11:36
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dooglusgnomefreak: everything in Linus is, isn't it?11:36
StR34kwell mpi_ch11:36
LazyAce`i hate windows, so im trying to move onto something better11:36
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BenUrbangnomefreak: nearly everything in any linux terminal is case sensitive11:36
yatesynot just linux, UNIX in general11:36
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dooglusgnomefreak: try running LS for instance...11:37
BenUrbanyatesy: osx11:37
gnomefreakdooglus not really that i have seen but ive never used caps in terminal other than to cd11:37
BenUrbanactually it depends on the filesystem11:37
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cafuegonalioth: cheers11:37
yatesyosx what?11:37
naliothcafuego: now how long is that gonna last, eh?11:37
BenUrbanhfs/hfs+ are case insensitive11:37
thegladiatorcan someone advice a IDE ?11:37
gnomefreakok dooglus good point :(11:37
cafuegonalioth: At least 20minutes of non-join-quit goodness.11:37
butcherbirdthegladiator, what for?11:37
dooglusgnomefreak: that's because most commands, flags and filenames are lower-case.  doesn't mean they're case-insensitive though11:38
gnomefreakthegladiator, anjuta but that should really be taken off-topic for it may cause a flame :(11:38
BenUrbangnomefreak: iNt mAiN(vOiD) { ...11:38
yatesyBenUrban: thats dodgy :/11:38
BenUrban:P11:38
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thegladiatormostly python/perl/c++ programming11:38
BenUrbanthegladiator: gedit :D11:38
gnomefreakBenUrban,  that looks more like a start to a C code11:39
BenUrbangnomefreak: it looks like something that won't compile11:39
thegladiatorjust wanna try a IDE11:39
BenUrbanbecause it's got the wrong case11:39
BenUrbanthegladiator: anjuta doesn't do python or perl11:39
anatoleany tips on why i get a kernel panic when booting from ubuntu installer cd with "boot: linux root=/dev/hdb2"? (hdb2 is my root partition)11:39
BenUrbankdevelop probably does though11:39
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Hentai^XPgnomefreak: you crazy unix setup is case sentsive, drives me nuts11:39
gnomefreakBenUrban,  but that wont compile cause in C you cant type it that way so more than liikely it will give you all kinds of errror11:39
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BenUrbangnomefreak: my point is that C is case sensitive too11:40
BenUrbanand so is c11:40
BenUrban:P11:40
thegladiatori see anjuta is for c++11:40
yatesyhaha11:40
thegladiatorok11:40
yatesyHentai^XP: go back to windows then :P11:40
BenUrbanyatesy: he is on windows11:40
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gnomefreakthegladiator, anjuta does about 6 languages same with kdevelop kdevelop maybe a few more i havent looked at in in a while11:41
yatesyhe could have a unix server for all i know :)11:41
thegladiatoranjuta supports pyhton and perl ?11:41
BenUrbangnomefreak: i thought anjuta was the one that only did c, c++, and java11:41
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gnomefreakno BenUrban11:41
markiveanyone have no sound in planetpenguin racer? i got sound everywhere else. :(11:41
gnomefreakhold on let me open it11:41
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dooglusBenUrban: you do realise that's valid C code, don't you?11:42
Hentai^XPyatesy: I live windows here11:42
BenUrbandooglus: it's valid but it won't compile as-is11:42
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thegladiatorHentai^XP, good11:42
dooglusBenUrban: you have to define the iNt type, but other than that it's OK.11:42
KuyaedzI've got bittorrent installed (via apt) but it running 'bittorrent' replies command not found.  suggestions?11:42
BenUrbandooglus: that's my point11:42
dooglusBenUrban: like this, for instance: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/579811:42
BenUrbanlol11:42
BenUrbani know11:42
Hentai^XPthegladiator ?11:42
thegladiatorgnomefreak, it works ?11:42
gnomefreakanjuta does C/C++ C# perl python java shell and header files and theses another one it says other11:43
QMarioHello Seveas!!! :)11:43
thegladiatornice11:43
thegladiatorlemme install11:43
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thegladiatorHentai^XP, why dont u change to linux ?11:43
QMarioGnomefreak, C#. Hee he hee!!! ;)11:43
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dooglusrosen: I've got my other hand back now.  But I'm still unable to help you, I think.11:43
gnomefreaki use pythoncard for python but its not installed at this moment11:43
dooglusrosen: I've never see windows share mounts now work properly.11:43
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gnomefreak:)11:44
dooglusrosen: sometimes there's a problem if the files are bigger than 2Gb in size.  could that be it?11:44
markiveanyone? i got no sound in planet penguin racer, any know anything about it?11:44
mp3guymy DVD drive has been acting really bent lately, it won't burn dvds, and has trouble reading some cds/dvds. Also, i might be watching a DVD, and it would randomly just bomb out, or won't let me skip to a certain part of the disc, any ideas?11:44
Hentai^XPthegladiator: there is no reason to mainly11:44
cafuegodooglus: Should only be on fat3211:44
thegladiatorHentai^XP, home user ?11:44
gnomefreakthats one language i havent tried cause people say its nothing like C/C++11:44
Hentai^XPthegladiator: ?11:44
doogluscafuego: no, it happens with any 'smbfs' share11:44
thegladiatorHentai^XP, if you are home user without much developing works...then stick on to windows xp11:44
doogluscafuego: if you want bigger than 2Gb you have to use CIFS11:44
cafuegodooglus: Oh that way around...11:44
rosendooglus, nah the one I ened the most is just a 400mb *.iso11:44
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cafuegodooglus: I have no issues accessing/moving huge files from Linux samba -> windows client11:45
Hentai^XPthegladiator: um yeah11:45
cafuego(tested up to 13GB)11:45
doogluscafuego: I guess you're using CIFS then, not SMB11:45
BenUrbanHentai^XP: come back when you get sick of windows11:45
mp3guyany ideas?11:45
BenUrban;)11:45
cafuegodooglus: No, that was using smb, about  ayear ago.11:45
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BenUrbanhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html <-- any ideas?11:46
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thegladiatori wonder if the installation deb packages can be stored somewhere in case the system crashes or something11:46
rosenI didnt have before but all of a sudden out of nowhere it came ... and having installed this whole box in two days (and being a complete newb) I have no idea where to start... It's not my firewall that's for sure11:46
Hentai^XPBenUrban: I haven't got sick of windows for a while like in 2k2-3 tried some mandrake and others but meh11:46
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ubunt-newbie-shi i just install ubuntu how do i install perl or gcc and other unix buildigs11:46
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thegladiatorso that one could avoid the routine installation for the re-install11:46
BenUrbanHentai^XP: you will, eventually :P11:46
thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, its there11:46
Hentai^XPBenUrban: and whys that?11:46
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thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, go to shell and hit perl11:46
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thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, or type gcc11:47
gnomefreaki want a perl button :( lol11:47
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ubunt-newbie-sso i dont need to install antying11:47
thegladiatorhe he11:47
doogluscafuego: I just tried googling for it.  didn't find it yet, but did find a page claiming that ext3 file systems have a maximum file size of 2Gb.  is that true?11:47
thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, exactly11:47
ubunt-newbie-s gcc11:47
ubunt-newbie-sbash: gcc: command not found11:47
ubunt-newbie-s?11:47
jroesif they aren't installed, you can try "apt-get install perl" or "apt-get install gcc"11:47
dsasubunt-newbie-s, install build-essential to get development tools, such as c compiler11:47
IcemanV9i'm getting a free webcam (logitech quickcam pro 4000) from a friend; i wonder if it does work with ubuntu 5.10?? anyone?11:47
cafuegoubunt-newbie-s: You will need 'build-essential'11:47
bimberiubunt-newbie-s: perl is installed by default, gcc isn't - install build-essential for that11:47
BenUrbanubunt-newbie-s: i think the package is called build-required or soemthing like that11:47
BenUrbanah11:47
BenUrbanbuild-essential;11:47
gnomefreakubunt-newbie-s, yes you need to install them if they dont run on command11:47
gnomefreakbuild-essential11:48
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ELpH95oback11:48
thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, normally it exists in most of the systems ; default installation11:48
rosen!uptime11:48
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thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, giev a try as root11:48
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BenUrbanthegladiator: gcc is not installed in the default ubuntu install11:48
ELpH95oi've not had any trouble with ubuntu..just different "feel" to it11:48
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cafuegoIcemanV9: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=logitech+quickcam+pro+4000+++Linux11:48
BenUrbanhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html <-- any ideas?11:48
thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, i see . i didint do nothing while installing but had gcc11:48
Peakeranyone else experiences firefox 1.0.7 as very unstable?  Crash every 15-20 minutes or worse?11:48
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gnomefreakBenUrban,  doesnt gcc4.0 come as default in ubuntu?11:49
ELpH95oinstalling Kubuntu now11:49
ELpH95owel kde11:49
ELpH95o:D11:49
jroesPeaker: you know 1.5 is out, right?11:49
mwePeaker: no11:49
Hentai^XPBenUrban:  sorry but windows throws more interesting stuff at me to mess with11:49
BenUrbanPeaker: look into the Session Saver extension11:49
Peakerjroe: apt-get didn't get it..11:49
ubunt-newbie-sok how do i make my ubuntu uptdated11:49
jroesoh, maybe it's not in ubuntu11:49
PeakerBenUrban: I just got it - appearantly it wants me to explicitly save :-(11:49
cafuegoPeaker: Works OK here. Does yours crash when you access flash websites?11:49
PeakerBenUrban: I kill -9'd to check and it didn't restore.. or does it use signal handlers to save?11:49
ubunt-newbie-safter installin ubuntu what do i need to setup a firewall or antivirus11:49
IcemanV9cafuego: ha. i used "ubuntu" instead of "linux"; got a very few results .. thanks. i'll check with "linux"11:49
BenUrbanPeaker: it auto-saves i thin11:49
BenUrbank11:49
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thrice`!firewall11:49
ubotuwell, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter11:49
Peakercafuego: Not sure, maybe that's the trigger, but I think some flashes at least don't crash11:50
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mwePeaker: ff 1.5 not in the repos. and it wont be in breezy11:50
jroes!firestarter11:50
ubotufrom memory, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic11:50
cafuegoPeaker: I have this lovely "flash blocker' extension.. :-)11:50
StR34khas anyone here used ubuntu in clusters?11:50
Peakermwe: Ah..11:50
ubunt-newbie-swhat do i need to keep my system uptdated downloaed new kernel or11:50
Peakercafuego: Too bad it lets plugin code crash it ... :-(11:50
rosenAny suggestions to an uptime counter I can put on my desktop ?11:50
BenUrbanrosen: watch is your friend11:50
thegladiator!update11:50
ubotuthegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?11:50
BenUrbanif you wanna use a terminal11:50
thegladiator!synaptic11:51
ubotumethinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto11:51
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mwerosen: gkrelm if you want eye candy11:51
thegladiatorubunt-newbie-s, check that synaptic link11:51
cafuegoPeaker: yeah, too bad people thinks flash is useful in any way...11:51
rosenBenUrban, I dont ;)11:51
thegladiatorit tells you about updating11:51
rosenmwe, I do !! :D11:51
thegladiator!application11:51
ubotuthegladiator: I don't know11:51
Peakercafuego: well it does "work" well in its domain..11:51
thegladiator!apt-get11:51
uboturumour has it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/11:51
ubunt-newbie-syes i see that11:51
BenUrban!thegladiator11:51
ubotuI haven't a clue, BenUrban11:51
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Peakercafuego: better movie quality/compression ratio11:51
ubunt-newbie-si want to updtated my system11:51
thegladiatorsee apt-get as well11:51
Peakercafuego: for some types of movies, ofcourse11:51
BenUrban!thegladiator likes to bug ubotu11:52
ubotuBenUrban: What?11:52
gnomefreaksudo apt-get upgrade updates it oh and dont forget that lil red dot in upper right hand corner of screen :( you cant miss it11:52
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thegladiatorthose are the utlities that we use in ubuntu to update systems11:52
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Peakermwe, cafuego : Any idea if firefox has regression tests, or only manual tests?11:52
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lightbrighthttp://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html11:52
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thegladiatorits not correct BenUrban ?11:52
thegladiatori am new out here11:52
gabrielhola11:52
BenUrbanthegladiator: heh, i was trying to subtly hint that you were bugging ubotu an awful lot11:53
thegladiatornyways i am out11:53
thegladiatoroh ok np11:53
gnomefreak!botsnack11:53
ubotuthanks gnomefreak :)11:53
gnomefreakubotu your welcome11:53
ubotugnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?11:53
korhalf!botsmack11:53
ubotukorhalf: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!11:53
thegladiatorlol gnomefreak he he11:53
BenUrbanlmao11:53
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mweheh11:54
gnomefreakdont smack the bot :(11:54
korhalfhe doesn't speak english, so it's okay11:54
BenUrban!korhalfsmack11:54
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, BenUrban11:54
BenUrbanlmao11:54
korhalflol11:54
gnomefreakwe finally have him back :)11:54
korhalf!ubotu11:54
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.11:54
korhalfahah11:55
StR34klol11:55
ELpH95oi also use freebsd btw11:55
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cafuegoUbotu is nederlands, doe er een beetje voorzichtig mee.11:55
ubotucafuego: I don't know11:55
mwegnomefreak: he seems to come and go all the time at the time lately11:55
cafuego!lart ubotu11:56
gnomefreakmy first month into linux i made mistake of installing freebsd and couldnt figure out how to get gui so same night uninstalled it :(11:56
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BenUrbanlol11:56
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ELpH95owhat part of the universe you guys in?11:56
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ELpH95oI'm on Earth ..to be specific. usa11:57
StR34kI'm in Canada :>11:57
bimberididn't Douglas Adams call it the "unfashionable corner"?11:57
ELpH95oawesome11:57
korhalfELpH95o: Canada :)11:57
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ELpH95o:)11:57
BenUrbanlol11:57
BenUrbanyes he did11:57
ELpH95omy friendes :)11:57
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ELpH95oi love canada too11:57
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StR34kNice :>11:57
StR34khehe11:57
korhalfwho said i loved canada11:57
korhalfi live here, but i dont love it11:57
korhalfVote Harper !11:57
ELpH95olol11:57
StR34kI love canada11:57
BenUrbanlmao11:57
StR34kit's beautiful11:57
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ELpH95ousa has beautiful parts11:57
Kuyaedzisntalled bittorrent on my server install but it seems to be a service for hosting .torrents.  Is there a client version for non-gui?11:58
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ELpH95othe beuatiful parts are too strict11:58
ELpH95outah11:58
xkahnPeaker: apparently, there are people who think Linus's opinion on desktops is important, and those who don't.11:58
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xkahnPeaker: but he pointed out some interesting points.11:58
yatesywierd11:58
jroeshmm, here's an interesting question.  is it possible to get Multi-User X set up?11:58
KuyaedzELpH95o: i'm in utah & its not so bad :)11:58
BenUrbanjroes: possible?11:58
BenUrbanyou mean already done11:58
Peakerxkahn: His mail was a few sentences long, wasn't it?11:58
xkahnPeaker: and showed the GNOME developers that outside impressions matter at least a little.11:58
jroeswell, yeah, 'm sure it's possible :)11:58
jroesjust don't know if it goes by a particular name, or what11:59
hyphenatedgnomefreak: when i move in with my girlfriend, I'll want it to be a 3-bdrm house. master bedroom, and a kinda 'personal space' room each11:59
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ELpH95oyou know that coffee-howto?11:59
Peakerxkahn: Yeah.. The weird thing is all the responses about how "KDE looks so ugly by default" and gnome doesn't puzzle me, as I find the default looks exactly the other way around. I think its a European vs. USA thing11:59
ELpH95oi want to see if linux can make lsd11:59
ELpH95olol'11:59
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jroesI would be very surprised if it's not some quick switch to flip, but I have no idea what it would be called11:59
jroesor where to look11:59
zandaacan anyone help me with my TV Tuner?11:59
korhalfELpH95o: theres a coffee howto?11:59
gnomefreakhyphenated,  good idea but ive lived alone so long its just really hard to even think about having a rooommate12:00
BenUrbanjroes: it's already enabled12:00

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