[12:00] <mlehrer> i found a web page that said to ask the #ubuntu bot about w32 codecs.  i found the package but am not sure how to get vlc or any other media player to recognize them
[12:00] <roune> i tried enable universe, it said : not a shell builtin
[12:00] <k31th_> sweet
[12:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/avidemux' returned no results.
[12:00] <k31th_> yh
[12:00] <k31th_> thanks
[12:00] <Khisanth> Jared: and does about:plugins show the Java plugin?
[12:00] <cafuego> k31th_: I believer courier can do it all, but I prefer postfix for smtp
[12:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/avidemux' returned no results.
[12:00] <k31th_> cafuego: why?
[12:00] <picasso> eruin: pleasant, but doesn't work if there's a - in the song title?
[12:01] <Jared> what do yo9u mean about:plugins
[12:01] <roune> roune: .
[12:01] <cafuego> k31th_: I'm used to it, it's widely documented, and it works great. See rule #1. :-)
[12:01] <fluvvell> Anybody familiar with Evolution mail know how to change the print out font size (print to paper)
[12:01] <Khisanth> Jared: type about:plugins in the location bar and hit enter
[12:02] <eruin> picasso, that could be true ;/... there's always easytag if you need something with more power, but that's not quite as straightforward UI-wise
[12:02] <Jared> nope dosen't show it
[12:02] <riffic> anyways i'm getting alsactl restore errors with dapper is this something that is expected?
[12:02] <VictorI> there is no kdevelop in ubuntu?
[12:02] <BenUrban> there is
[12:02] <cafuego> riffic: In somuch as dapper isn't stable and you should expect stuff to be broken, yes.
[12:02] <picasso> i need power!!
[12:02] <roune> how do u type to someone? lol :D
[12:03] <VictorI> BenUrban: not in the repo
[12:03] <riffic> well i was going to file a bug report
[12:03] <mjr> VictorI, in universe
[12:03] <picasso> so easytag.. i'll try that also. but this is definitely better than manually id3v2 ...
[12:03] <riffic> but I'm not sure if its been reported or now
[12:03] <VictorI> mjr: its broken
[12:03] <riffic> not
[12:03] <Jared> it dosen't show up ...where can i get it
[12:03] <mjr> VictorI, then don't say there isn't, say it's broken :] 
[12:03] <cafuego> riffic: Look it up in launchpad
[12:03] <VictorI>   kdevelop3: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installable
[12:03] <cafuego> or bugzilla
[12:03] <riffic> okay.
[12:03] <BenUrban> VictorI: you have to enable universe
[12:03] <cafuego> VictorI: You using dapper or breezy?
[12:04] <VictorI> dapper
[12:04] <cafuego> yeah, dapper breaks. Wait until it's fixed, then try again.
[12:04] <cafuego> Or use breezy, if you need a stable, useable system.
[12:04] <rhoffaa> if someone could help me with this ftp problem im having it would really help, my xbox is useless unless i can get rid of this error on gftp
[12:04] <riffic> Additional Comment #4 From Scott James Remnant  2005-12-05 15:28 UTC  [reply]  -------
[12:04] <riffic> Likely due to ALSA not being updated to new-world-order yet
[12:04] <freakazoid3333> im using brezzy and successfullyloaded kdvelop3 yesterday
[12:05] <cafuego> Yes, breezy works fine.
[12:05] <riffic> cafuego: you know anything about that?
[12:05] <VictorI> possible to downgrade?
[12:05] <Seveas> riffic, that means: be patient, someone's working on it
[12:05] <cafuego> Mr Watson has no businmess egging users on to try dapper when they have no idea how to fix problems. *sigh*
[12:05] <Jared> Runescape wont work at all....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:05] <riffic> what is the new world order?
[12:05] <riffic> please let me in on this
[12:05] <Seveas> riffic, the new device handling thing for Dapper
[12:06] <ompaul> riffic, dapper complient
[12:06] <cafuego> riffic: It's when Bush is put against the wall and gets shot.
[12:06] <riffic> oic
[12:06] <riffic> hehe sounds like fun
[12:06] <VictorI> bah well I am just going back to freebsd, seems more better suited for my needs.
[12:06] <_RocH> o/
[12:06] <freakazoid3333> can i watch cafuego?
[12:06] <roughtrader> i have made and mounted an iso image of breezy dvd
[12:06] <ompaul> cafuego, no it is when he puts up other people against the wall and has the shot
[12:06] <cafuego> VictorI: Like I said, use a STABLE release if you need stability.
[12:06] <ompaul> but stop it already :-)
[12:06] <Khisanth> Jared: which Java package did you install?
[12:06] <riffic> when i am king you will be first against the wall
[12:06] <digits> Hey guys, how do I configure the BitTorrent thingie? The port it's using is blocked by the tracker I use
[12:06] <Jared> jdk
[12:07] <cafuego> VictorI: Don't blame Ubuntu if YOU made a bad decision.
[12:07] <roughtrader> how do I change the repository information to look for content in the mounted image rather than the DVD?
[12:07] <VictorI> I tend to like the newest packages, but have a stable base userland, with freebsd I am able to do that.
[12:07] <cafuego> digits: In the prefs, change the port numebsr you want it to use
[12:07] <cafuego> VictorI: Newest and stable do not mix. Ever.
[12:07] <aguazer0> is vlc gtk2 issue fixed?
[12:07] <Nytryx> mhz!
[12:08] <aguazer0> or is there any "unofficial" package for ubuntu?
[12:08] <BenUrban> vlc can use gtk2?
[12:08] <VictorI> BenUrban: I have better things to do than compiling packages from scratch
[12:08] <Nytryx> ok heres a question doe ubuntu open an ssh client by default
[12:08] <BenUrban> VictorI: heh, true enough
[12:08] <aguazer0> BenUrban, in fact it must do it
[12:08] <digits> cafuego: umm, i'm using the one that comes with gnome, and i can't find a menu entry for it... and no menu when running it.
[12:08] <BenUrban> Nytryx: client? i think you mean server...
[12:08] <Nytryx> whoops yeah server
[12:09] <BenUrban> and the answer is no
[12:09] <bnD> can anyone help me out? ive downloaded something from usenet, its split into 25 parts, is there an app or a method to rejoin these files other than join file1 file2 file3 file4 etc?
[12:09] <BenUrban> or at least it should be
[12:09] <BenUrban> bnD: man cat
[12:09] <bnD> BenUrban, k brb
[12:09] <Nytryx> ok so why when i installed edubuntu on my sons ibook i could ssh into it with out starting the server?
[12:09] <roune> how do i get the universe thing?
[12:09] <ompaul> bnD, cat is the command you want
[12:09] <_RocH> what cheatcode forces 5.10 for self MD5 test ?
[12:09] <bnD> ah, and i thought it just printed contents to screen
[12:09] <bnD> :)
[12:10] <BenUrban> bnD: if you like that, you'll love dog
[12:10] <BenUrban> :P
[12:10] <bnD> BenUrban, heh
[12:10] <ompaul> !tell roune about repos
[12:10] <Khisanth> Jared: then you should have /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:10] <ompaul> roughtrader, see the message from ubotu
[12:10] <Nytryx> round int the terminal type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:10] <bnD> BenUrban, im still going to have to specify all 25 files?
[12:10] <BenUrban> bnD: you can use a wildcard...
[12:11] <Nytryx> roune int the terminal type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:11] <bnD> and it will get them in the correct order?
[12:11] <roughtrader> i figured it out
[12:11] <bnD> its an mpeg :)
[12:11] <BenUrban> bnD: probably not lol
[12:11] <bnD> hehe
[12:11] <lammah> hm vb cineva romaneste ?
[12:11] <roughtrader> file:///media/yourisoimage.iso
[12:11] <roune> done :D
[12:11] <lisa_> anybody know about the module "tun"
[12:11] <Nytryx> ok uncomment the lines that say "universe" at the end
[12:12] <_RocH> what cheatcode forces 5.10 for self MD5 test ?
[12:12] <Nytryx> uncomment = remover the #
[12:12] <mlehrer> ok, the bottom line is: totem-xine > totem-gstreamer
[12:12] <_RocH> MD5sum
[12:12] <mlehrer> why does gstreamer even exist, are 3 media players not enough, heh
[12:13] <markrian> gstreamer is the most excellent in terms of architecture - it's used in the Nokia 770!
[12:13] <markrian> Along with GTK and other free software
[12:13] <Kzar_fr> Hi
[12:13] <picasso> eruin: still here?
[12:13] <picasso> eruin: you use easytag at all? heh, i know you said it was more complicated, and now i have a question.. :)
[12:13] <_RocH> xine is fastest , old crap compatible ..
[12:13] <Kzar_fr> Is there any CAD software user here ?
[12:13] <bnD> BenUrban, gfslicer :)
[12:13] <Nytryx> like autoCAD
[12:14] <BenUrban> bnD: huh?
[12:14] <Kzar_fr> Nytryx, well, like an CAD software that could be used to map my future house :)
[12:14] <Nytryx> nope sorry
[12:14] <markrian> xine is the best media backend for linux at the moment, I agree
[12:14] <cyphase> i have the gaim-evolution plugin installed. why do some of my contacts in evolution have their gaim icon as their pic, but others don't?
[12:15] <bnD> BenUrban, made specifically for large file splitting ;)
[12:15] <BenUrban> bnD: ah
[12:16] <Kzar_fr> markrian, does xine has support for QUicktime movies ?
[12:17] <_RocH> http://xinehq.de/
[12:17] <Nytryx> ok question why when i did an installation of ubuntu onto my sons laptop can i ssh into it but i did an install of ubuntu on my desktop and i cant
[12:17] <redguy> nooen praising mplayer?
[12:17] <Nytryx> oh and my sons laptop is an ibook running edubuntu
[12:17] <dooglus> Nytryx: you installed the ssh server on both?
[12:17] <bla|patrick> need a howto make flash working
[12:17] <redguy> so mplayer is crappy now?
[12:17] <corresponder> i praise mplayer!
[12:17] <Snoopinator> hi all
[12:17] <bla|patrick> :(
[12:18] <redguy> !flash
[12:18] <bla|patrick> hi, i am back... full of problems
[12:18] <markrian> Kzar_fr: yes, I believe it plays very old Quicktime files by itself, but it can load Windows dll files which allows it to play the most recent ones too
[12:18] <BenUrban> Nytryx: maybe edubuntu sets up an ssh server by default
[12:18] <Nytryx> dooglus i did'nt  do anything different
[12:18] <bla|patrick> first i thought it was an issue of that gpl project and now i installed the unfree macromedia player
[12:18] <dooglus> Nytryx: if you didn't install openssh-server then you should
[12:18] <Snoopinator> has anyone tested pptpclient to mount vpn connection ?
[12:18] <Nytryx> ok so install an ssh server
[12:18] <bla|patrick> but still there is neither flash nor anything related to it
[12:18] <bla|patrick> :/
[12:18] <Nytryx> ok thanks
[12:18] <cyphase> I have the Gaim-Evolution plugin installed. Why do some of my contacts in Evolution have their IM icon as their picture, but others don't?
[12:18] <Kzar_fr> markrian, oh thank's, and any .Deb with most recents dll's for xine ?
[12:19] <thegladiator> hi
[12:19] <corresponder> ho
[12:19] <dooglus> Nytryx: check on your son's machine - perhaps edubuntu installs sshd by default for admin purposes or some such
[12:19] <thegladiator> i cant see colors in my vi
[12:19] <redguy> !test
[12:19] <thegladiator> why cud this be and what shud i do ?
[12:19] <dooglus> thegladiator: vi doesn't do colours.  get vim if you want colours
[12:19] <BenUrban> thegladiator: maybe you're colorblind
[12:19] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:19] <thegladiator> i have vim
[12:19] <ubotu> Passed.
[12:20] <bla|patrick>  my flash plugin /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/libflashplayer.so <-- belongs this to macromedia flashplayer?
[12:20] <Snoopinator> no idea for pptpclient ?
[12:20] <thegladiator> dooglus, i open it with vi and still no color
[12:20] <thegladiator> vim*
[12:20] <BenUrban> thegladiator: try vim
[12:20] <BenUrban> ah
[12:20] <thegladiator> still nope
[12:20] <fluvvell> Anyone who might be real familiar with Evolution Mail on ubuntu know how to shrink the font size in the printing by paper output of emails?
[12:20] <thegladiator> it used to work well in fc4
[12:21] <monkeymullet> Does Bluetooth work?
[12:21] <thegladiator> it should work
[12:21] <Snoopinator> it does with my phone
[12:21] <thegladiator> bluetooth i mean
[12:21] <monkeymullet> using evolution?
[12:21] <thegladiator> any vi experts around ?
[12:22] <Snoopinator> i'm not using evolution
[12:22] <thegladiator> i cant do no coding !
[12:22] <jdier> I am just a desktop hack, Have a friend asking me about how apache runs on ubuntu?  Any thoughts, guidelines or suggestions?
[12:22] <markrian> Kzar_fr: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:22] <Squee-D> How it runs?
[12:22] <roune> i edited the sorucelist, and did a apt-get update... but i still dont got the enable universe thing Oo
[12:22] <monkeymullet> what do you use your phone with?
[12:23] <Snoopinator> well the default bluetooth software given with the distro
[12:23] <markrian> Kzar_fr: though be careful, that's for 5.04, hoary. If you have 5.10 breezy you need to make sure the configs say the right names
[12:23] <fluvvell> thegladiator, what happens if you load a file into gedit?  php source code comes up in colour on mine....
[12:23] <Kzar_fr> markrian, thank's again
[12:23] <markrian> np
[12:23] <Snoopinator> kbtobexclient
[12:23] <thegladiator> let me check
[12:23] <Kzar_fr> markrian, configs ?
[12:23] <monkeymullet> thanks
[12:23] <Kzar_fr> markrian, I'll check
[12:23] <Snoopinator> :)
[12:24] <bshumate> thegladiator: something be wrong with yer ~/.vimrc
[12:24] <Squee-D> why would the 'starting up the partitioner' in ubuntu install be so incredibly slow?
[12:24] <roune> hey, how do u type to someone? :D i dont want to use the /msg thing
[12:24] <Squee-D> Is it because i have a Highpoint raid?
[12:24] <roune> write Oo
[12:24] <thegladiator> i see
[12:24] <thegladiator> fluvvell, it works well with gedit though
[12:24] <thegladiator> not vi
[12:24] <thegladiator> vim neither
[12:25] <Snoopinator> cya all bye
[12:25] <markrian> Kzar_fr: basically in the section Adding Extra Repositories, where it says hoary, replace that with breezy (if you do indeed have breezy installed)
[12:25] <bla|patrick> weired...
[12:25] <andy_> hey every one
[12:25] <bla|patrick> in firefox flash works
[12:25] <bla|patrick> but opera doesnt find it :(
[12:26] <andy_> what did you do...download the flash up date?
[12:26] <Kzar_fr> markrian, Oh ok :)
[12:26] <cowbud> roune: you can use /query then whatever you type will go to them..
[12:26] <andy_> lol whatever ttyl ppl
[12:27] <bshumate> thegladiator: save this as ~/.vimrc : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5767  and your vim will have colored syntax-highlighting, etc...
[12:28] <Squee-D> my install keeps freezing at the partman stage
[12:29] <monkeymullet> Is the next version going to have install /home to a seperate partition working?
[12:29] <Squee-D> i get blank blue screen after the bar hits 100%
[12:29] <cafuego> monkeymullet: That works fine now as well.
[12:30] <monkeymullet> nice one
[12:30] <cafuego> monkeymullet: I did an install yesterday whilst making it keep my exising /home
[12:30] <cafuego> works dandy
[12:30] <cafuego> Just....
[12:30] <cafuego> get a haircut! ;-)
[12:30] <monkeymullet> :o
[12:30] <BenUrban> and my home is shared with gentoo
[12:31] <BenUrban> :)
[12:31] <cafuego> BenUrban: Go wash your mouth
[12:31] <Phoul> Excuse me
[12:31] <Phoul> Is there nextstep for linux
[12:31] <cafuego> Phoul: Not quite, there's openstep though.
[12:31] <mjr> Phoul, what you might want is http://www.gnustep.org
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Phoul,  you mean nextstep window manager?
[12:31] <Phoul> yeah
[12:32] <cafuego> Phoul: Actual nextstep is closed and copyrighted.
[12:32] <Phoul> well whats close?
[12:32] <mjr> Phoul, see above
[12:32] <Phoul> Like my friend just sent me this pic of his windows system
[12:32] <cafuego> gnustep, probably.
[12:32] <BenUrban> *gnustep
[12:32] <WebMaven> Phoul: gnustep.
[12:32] <Phoul> And it looks
[12:32] <Phoul> *nice*
[12:32] <Phoul> If i showed somone a screenshot would you be able to tell me what can do that?
[12:33] <bnD> BenUrban, apparently you were right, that slicer program didnt work however if the split files are in order (.001, .002..) then cat blah.mpg.* > blah.mpg works fine ;) thanks
[12:33] <cafuego> Phoul: probably
[12:33] <mjr> mmh, it's not about the look, really
[12:33] <bla|patrick> huhu :(
[12:33] <DjLinX> does anyone know alot about proftpd?
[12:33] <BenUrban> heh, lucky you
[12:33] <bla|patrick> opera + flash = confused
[12:33] <cafuego> Phoul: Thing is, you cna make Linux look like *anything*
[12:33] <mjr> though there is the distinct nextstep look, of course
[12:33] <bla|patrick> someone here who had luck with this?
[12:33] <Phoul> Okay heres the first link
[12:33] <Phoul> http://coldhak.byethost2.com/tasks_noir.JPG
[12:33] <Phoul> oops
[12:33] <BenUrban> as a desktop picture :P
[12:34] <Phoul> http://coldhak.byethost3.com/tasks_noir.JPG
[12:34] <Phoul> and theres one more
[12:34] <Seveas> BenUrban, PM
[12:34] <BenUrban> k
[12:34] <Phoul> http://coldhak.byethost3.com/Noir_setup.JPG
[12:35] <mjr> Phoul, that's most definitely not classic nextstep :)
[12:35] <Phoul> Well what will do that
[12:35] <korhalf> where do i put things that i want to start up on bootup
[12:35] <korhalf> /etc/rc2.d?
[12:35] <Phoul> anyone know a wm that could do that
[12:35] <Phoul> without a shitload or work?
[12:36] <cafuego> Phoul: I'm tempted to say any wm, with enough tweaking ;-)
[12:36] <bshumate> korhalf: in /etc/init.d actually, then use update-rc.d
[12:36] <Phoul> Gad dammit
[12:36] <Phoul> Is there anything that comes with it like that
[12:36] <Phoul> Or like close
[12:36] <nytryx_> ok question
[12:36] <korhalf> bshumate, uhh, i dont know how to use update-rc.d
[12:37] <Phoul> gnomefreak my friend why?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> is that his desktop?
[12:37] <nytryx_> whats a way to speed up ubuntu on a system running 550mhz and 128 mb of ram w/out buying more ram?
[12:37] <Phoul> yeah his windows desktop
[12:37] <Phoul> Its amazing
[12:37] <Kyral> Phoul: it prolly took a crapload of work to get XP to look like that
[12:37] <bshumate> korhalf: use update-rc.d to select the runlevel(s) you need the script run at.... man update-rc.d if you don't know how to use it
[12:37] <Kyral> nytryx_: Fluxbox?
[12:38] <Phoul> Lol no it didnt Kyral he downloaded it
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Phoul,  tell him ull install fluxbox is he can make it look like that :) lol
[12:38] <nytryx_> ok the same system ran extremely smooth running Suse 10 KDE 3.5
[12:38] <Phoul> gnomefreak thats his windows
[12:38] <nytryx_> where can i get KDE 3.5 fo ubuntu?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Phoul,  windows is hackable but linux is even more so ;)
[12:38] <Phoul> gnomefreak thats windows XP
[12:38] <Hobbsee> !tell nytryx_ about kde3.5
[12:38] <cafuego> Nytryx: it's in dapper, currently NOT stable.
[12:38] <Phoul> He downloaded the script thing
[12:39] <Hobbsee> cafuego: there's a breezy version for it...
[12:39] <cafuego> Phoul: Thing is, SOMEONE did  aLOT of work to create the theme.
[12:39] <Phoul> well uhh
[12:39] <Phoul> :\
[12:39] <nytryx_> meaning i have to download it from there?
[12:39] <Phoul> I dont know how to do anything
[12:39] <Phoul> so im no use
[12:39] <Phoul> :(
[12:39] <Phoul> I just really like that
[12:39] <dderr> hello everyone
[12:40] <roune> hey, i edited the sources.list file, and did a apt-get update,,, i still cant enable universe ...
[12:40] <Jemt> Greetings. What changes do I haft to make in fstab in order to give myself write access to my shared FAT32 partition ?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> roune,  please use pastebin and paste your sources list
[12:41] <nytryx_> and how do i access the file shares on a windows box inside my network?
[12:41] <allorder> hi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch it and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> roune,  come to think of it the errors would come in handy too
[12:41] <charles> hello everybody, i have a rather newb question about ubuntu regarding sharing files between XP and Ubuntu on a FAT32 hard drive, can anyone give me a hand?
[12:41] <charles> warning, i'm pretty new at this stuff so i understand if i oughta look elsewhere.
[12:41] <bshumate>  Jemt: in the fourth column of the fstab for the line pertaining to your fat32 volume, change "ro" to be "rw"
[12:41] <Jemt> charles: Ask your question
[12:42] <charles> ok
[12:42] <roune> well, when when i just type "enable" i get a list with alot of stuff, but universe isnt there
[12:42] <Jemt> bshumate: It only contains 'defaults'
[12:42] <charles> i have three hard disks, one #))gb, one 120GB and one 80GB.  I want to put XP on the 80, Ubuntu on the 120, and use the 300 as FAT32 storage for both
[12:42] <charles> i.e. so I can get to my mp3s and whatnot from both XP and Ubuntu
[12:42] <charles> is this possible>?
[12:42] <Mirith> Hey, I know this isnt the Laptop channel, but I have a question that I was hoping someone knew something about... Anyone know if there is a way to disbale the touch pad on the laptops that have both the eraser nub and the touchpad
[12:42] <allorder> hi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch it and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?
[12:42] <Jemt> charles: Yep
[12:43] <McJerry> what would be the command to type to see all running processes on a remote machine if i am vt in?
[12:43] <charles> is it particularly difficult?
[12:43] <j2daosh> !ubotu tell me about x server
[12:43] <dderr> heh, aptitude was broken, just figured out what the problem was, I did an ifdown....lol
[12:43] <cafuego> oooher.
[12:43] <nytryx_> charles yeah you just mount the fat32 drive in ubuntu if it does'nt auto mount it
[12:43] <Jemt> charles: Install Windows first
[12:43] <nytryx_> its not hard
[12:43] <cafuego> $1700 for a shiny new 2x320GB Athlon64 X2 server
[12:44] <nytryx_> cafuego you selling it lol
[12:44] <j2daosh> ok... anyone got a few minutes to do nothing but answerr a dumb noobs questions?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> roune, i dont understand did you add the universe repo to your sources list?
[12:44] <bshumate> jemt: rw,user,noauto instead of defaults should be sufficient
[12:44] <dderr> just ask you noob
[12:44] <bla|patrick> linux + opera + flash = confused
[12:44] <bla|patrick> someone here who had luck with this?
[12:44] <bla|patrick> :/
[12:44] <cafuego> Nytryx: no, just checking component pricing
[12:45] <charles> so if i install Windows on the 80GB and then Ubuntu on the 120GB, and use Ubuntu to format the 300GB to fat32, they should both see it?
[12:45] <Jemt> bshumate: Ok, trying that
[12:45] <Squee-D> I didnt think flash worked with opera on linux
[12:45] <seppe> hi all
[12:45] <redguy> charles: yuppers
[12:45] <Jemt> charles: Correct
[12:45] <nytryx_> cafuego i might have been able to get you the parts ceaper i have a whole sale license
[12:45] <cafuego> Can fat32 even handle 300GB?
[12:45] <charles> ok great
[12:45] <j2daosh> ok... i cant port my ssh screen... i set up openssh on here and i can connect but i cant port using no machine
[12:45] <bshumate> jemt: then again, "defaults" is supposed to include rw already...
[12:46] <j2daosh> how do i actually install the the files i download off synapsis?
[12:46] <redguy> charles: hrm, cafeugo has a good point
[12:46] <bshumate> cafuego: not as one partition
[12:46] <j2daosh> how do i add those programs to my program list?
[12:46] <cafuego> nytryx_: That's not going to be at all useful.
[12:46] <seppe> someon who speak italian??
[12:46] <fluvvell> chales, fat32 will really suck on 300GTb
[12:46] <charles> is there any other file system besides FAT32 that both XP and Ubuntu can see?
[12:46] <fluvvell> sry Gb
[12:46] <cafuego> fat32 will really suck regardless
[12:46] <j2daosh> is there a way to stop ubntu from asking me for my password every 2 seconds?
[12:46] <fluvvell> cafuego, lol but true
[12:47] <allorder> hi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?
[12:47] <dderr> i'm not sure what you are doing, but consider setting up passwordless ssh
[12:47] <bla|patrick> hello :(
[12:47] <bla|patrick> help?!?
[12:47] <nytryx_> ok wahts a key board short cut to the terminal
[12:47] <dderr> j2daosh : but i didn't actually understand what you are doing
[12:47] <fluvvell> Charles, if I wanted both linux and windows to see 300Gb, I would put it on a Samba share
[12:48] <charles> hmm
[12:48] <jeda> can anyone point me in the direction to change my reposits so I can apt-get more?
[12:48] <cafuego> charles: with ext2fsd.sourceforge.net, WinXP can see, read and write ext2 and ext3 just fine.
[12:48] <j2daosh> no the password thing aint bothering me on the ssh... does it once when im signing in... im talking about installing apps, adding anything to the customization of the gui... running certain programs that think they should be run by root...
[12:48] <bla|patrick> well.. nobody here who has some time :(
[12:48] <cafuego> charles: I don't know that you'd get great performance, though.
[12:48] <Squee-D> fluvvell that calls for 2 machines tho, im guessing he has one
[12:48] <fluvvell> charles, then you dont need it to be fat32, and all that it needs is an old box of say 500Mz or so
[12:49] <charles> would Samba offer good performance, and is it difficult to get up and running for a relative newb?
[12:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jeda about repos
[12:49] <cafuego> charles: What will you use the 300GB for?
[12:49] <fluvvell> cafuego, true but its a big partition.
[12:49] <charles> oh, so wo computers
[12:49] <j2daosh> !ubotu tell jeda about repositories
[12:49] <charles> two*
[12:49] <charles> mostly storage
[12:49] <charles> mp3 files, video files
[12:49] <j2daosh> u get that jeda?
[12:49] <dderr> j2daosh : i can't help you, good luck though
[12:49] <jeda> j2daosh, yes thanks
[12:49] <charles> i do a lot of recording in Windows but I want to be able to acces my .mp3 and .wav mixdowns in Ubuntu
[12:50] <cafuego> charles: ALternatively, captive NTFS.
[12:50] <nytryx_> ok i cant find the terminal
[12:50] <cafuego> charles: Not great, but probably a good compromise.
[12:50] <j2daosh> dderr. have you xforwarded your display through ssh?
[12:50] <bla|patrick> cafuego: that ruined my linux once
[12:50] <Kzar_fr> cafuego, or Samba
[12:50] <dderr> yeah
[12:50] <fluvvell> Id go Samba
[12:50] <cafuego> Kzar_fr: Samba is not useful on a SINGLE MACHINE
[12:50] <charles> yeah, i'm workin with one machine
[12:50] <Kzar_fr> cafuego, oh sorry, I've missed somethnig :)
[12:51] <kt0xd> can i install php-nuke i have all configurate
[12:51] <roune> gnomefreak, i uncommented the lines, (universe lines), and then i ran apt-get update, and then i did apt-get upgrade, then i tried enable universe, but it doesnt exists?
[12:51] <redguy> VMware+samba perhaps?
[12:51] <fluvvell> charles, if you're spending money on a drive, whats a little pc box gonna hurt?
[12:51] <Kzar_fr> charles, ok, so NTFS reading from Linux.
[12:51] <charles> i already have the drives :P
[12:51] <nytryx_> ok someone anyone help i cant find the terminal is ther a keyboard short cut for it?
[12:51] <estupendocero> I know this is a really general question, but my machine suddenly started going really slow, and the problem persists after reboots. Any ideas on possible troubleshooting tactics?
[12:51] <j2daosh> ok, what did u use to do it?
[12:51] <Jemt> Can anyone help me get write access to my FAT32 drive? I can only read from it
[12:51] <fluvvell> it doesn't need graphics or keyboard or anything else other than a network card
[12:51] <jairo> hello . how can i call totem from the terminal?
[12:51] <cafuego> charles: You can certainly read ntfs from within Linux. There's a not-completely-stable ntfs write wrapper for Linux, too.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> roune,  you have to add the repo for universe in your sources list there isnt one there by default that i know of
[12:51] <dderr> j2daosh : i'm checking hold on
[12:52] <Kzar_fr> charles, that's better to have a FAT32 file system to share files between Win and Linux
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell roune about sources
[12:52] <Squee-D> wow ubunto cd does not appear to come with hpt370 drivers. Is there any way to get the module and insert at install time?
[12:52] <charles> so i should be able to mount my NTFS drive in Ubuntu?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> that pm you just got from ubotu will give you examples of sources to use
[12:52] <cafuego> Squee-D: Don't use the on-chip raid.
[12:52] <j2daosh> jemt... cant you sudo chmod 777 the drive?
[12:52] <cafuego> charles: Yes, you will be able to mount it fine, for READING.
[12:53] <Jemt> j2daosh: Don't what to change file privileges
[12:53] <charles> ok, how do I do that?
[12:53] <Squee-D> cafuego im not :) sadly, the only way this machine supports ata100 is through the hpt370 chipset
[12:53] <Jemt> It should be done within fstab
[12:53] <bimberi> charles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:53] <cafuego> charles: If you install WIndows first, Ubuntu will detect and mount for you.
[12:53] <Squee-D> I dont have it set up as raid, its a single drive.
[12:53] <charles> hmm
[12:53] <cafuego> Squee-D: yuck ;-)
[12:54] <charles> i tried that, and maybe i'm not looking in the right place, but I can't see the 120 or the 300 drives
[12:54] <j2daosh> cafe... yeah it will mount but you wont have access to it if it is a ntfs partition
[12:54] <fluvvell> charles, ntfs for reading is fine,
[12:54] <cafuego> Squee-D: I thought it was supposed to support it in ata mode...
[12:54] <Squee-D> heh yeah, but you know, it would still make sense to have the hpt module on here, plenty of people dual boot anyway
[12:54] <estupendocero> So no ideas on how to track down an unidentified general slowdown in Breezy?
[12:54] <j2daosh> i mean bimberi
[12:54] <bla|patrick> can someone explain me, why ubuntu i sblocking ddc transfers per default
[12:54] <cafuego> j2daosh: With extremely minot tweaking (cross hurdle when get there) he can.
[12:54] <charles> how do i gain access to read the files, then?
[12:54] <bla|patrick> and why bittorrent isnt working
[12:54] <bla|patrick> x)
[12:54] <beelzebub1987> open your torrent port
[12:54] <Squee-D> cafuego maybe it does and my problem is different to what i think it is, but the partman is dying when discovering the drive, and fdisk is being a freak
[12:54] <bla|patrick> i havent modified the iptables
[12:54] <beelzebub1987> if you have a router
[12:54] <j2daosh> charles... what format u have?
[12:55] <charles> the 120 and the 300 are NTFS
[12:55] <cafuego> charles: After booting Ubuntu, you make a one-line tweak to the fstab file, that ensure the NTFS partition is mounted as YOUR user id, you you have proper read access.
[12:55] <charles> i am not sure what this one is
[12:55] <j2daosh> ok lemme see if i can remember what that other person told me...
[12:55] <estupendocero> oh well, thanks anyway
[12:55] <j2daosh> gimme a sec
[12:55] <bla|patrick> !iptables
[12:55] <charles> silly question, but how do i tweak the fstab file?
[12:55] <cafuego> Squee-D: what does 'dmesg' say about it?
[12:55] <j2daosh> ahh thats it
[12:55] <bla|patrick> does the bot respond?
[12:55] <bla|patrick> :(
[12:55] <bla|patrick> no
[12:55] <j2daosh> the fstab
[12:55] <j2daosh> hold on
[12:55] <dderr> j2daosh : i think it is: ssh -X machineName
[12:55] <bla|patrick> !iptables
[12:56] <cafuego> charles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions  explains.
[12:56] <Squee-D> cafuego does dmesg just tail /var/messages?
[12:56] <korhalf> dont bother with x forwarding
[12:56] <korhalf> it doesnt work well
[12:56] <cafuego> Squee-D: No, it dumps the kernel log buffer
[12:56] <Squee-D> or is it the boot messages?
[12:56] <dderr> j2daosh : i lost my notes though
[12:56] <cafuego> korhalf: it works 100% fine.
[12:56] <Squee-D> ahh k i'll check it after this reboot
[12:56] <j2daosh> from a windows box to my linux box?
[12:56] <korhalf> cafuego, its too slow, no point
[12:56] <nytryx_> ok kubuntu downloading
[12:56] <cafuego>  j2daosh: if windows is running an X server, sure.
[12:57] <charles> thanks guys
[12:57] <Squee-D> sorry been a few years since i've installed or done any sysadmin on a linux box.. don't mean to be dense :P
[12:57] <korhalf> j2daosh, yeah meaning you have to download cygwin
[12:57] <cafuego> j2daosh: Your network must be broken, I have no problems with it.
[12:57] <j2daosh> ok
[12:57] <j2daosh> got it
[12:57] <korhalf> cafuego, you mean MY network must be broken.
[12:57] <cafuego> eh, korhalf
[12:57] <kt0xd> whe i unzip php-nukexxx for this work???
[12:57] <Squee-D> cyg? nah pay a fortune for exceed. you know you want to :P
[12:57] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> hi, anybody here knows how to display Total CPU usage in % for mrtg (dont use snmp)
[12:57] <j2daosh> here is what you will do for your ntfs drive
[12:57] <kt0xd> i have all confugurate
[12:57] <bla|patrick> well if the bot doesnt, could someone else give me a hand
[12:57] <Kzar_fr> j2daosh, have a look at FreeNX project: that's great and speed of light over Internet
[12:57] <j2daosh> can u "sudo"
[12:57] <bla|patrick> i need help with iptables i guess
[12:58] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> j2daosh to me?
[12:58] <j2daosh> where did that ntfs guy go??
[12:58] <allorder> hi everyone, I installed the game attal with apt-get now i try to launch and i got this error : ./attal-client: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libAttalClient.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZTI13QWindowsStyle   someone have any idea ?
[12:58] <cafuego> korhalf: You might also need to check which algorishm ssh uses. An old box might have trouble with the datatstream. I ise 'ssh -C -X user@host' and it all works fine. (few GHz machines though)
[12:58] <j2daosh> bfa... huh?
[12:58] <Jemt> GRRR, this is really driving me crazy! Why don't I have write permission to my FAT32 partition ??
[12:58] <Kzar_fr> j2daosh, FreeNX is a graphical way to connect a distant Linux box from Windows or Linux
[12:59] <Kzar_fr> tested and approved
[12:59] <varsendagger> Jemt, how did you mount it?
[12:59] <Kzar_fr> FreeNX is over SSH, so it's secure
[12:59] <cafuego> Jemt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:59] <varsendagger> and have you tried sudo
[12:59] <varsendagger> ?
[12:59] <nytryx_> freeNX?
[12:59] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> anybody about that cpu usage ?
[12:59] <j2daosh> never heard of it but i will look it up
[12:59] <bimberi> j2daosh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[12:59] <Jemt> varsendagger: As root
[12:59] <Kzar_fr> nytryx_, yep. have a look at nomachine.com for a demo
[12:59] <nytryx_> ok does that work like remote desktop kicking the logged in user off when i login remotly?
[01:00] <Jemt> varsendagger: mount /media/hda4
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: You'll need to set a umount in /etc/fstab.  (I had the same problem.)
[01:00] <Seveas> nytryx_, no, it creates a new login
[01:00] <cafuego> Nytryx: No, it was designed properly and not hacked in :-)
[01:00] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: How ?
[01:00] <kimbja98> hey all, I have a slight install problem
[01:00] <Kzar_fr> j2daosh, do you know VNC? So FreeNX is far speeder than VNC
[01:00] <j2daosh> ok
[01:00] <j2daosh> im looking into it now
[01:00] <Squee-D> Kzar_fr is itr still a screen scrap technology?
[01:00] <cafuego> Nytryx; linux boxes have no issues hosting simplulaneous remote desktop loging for even up to hundreds of users, subject to disk/ram/bandwidth.
[01:00] <cafuego> simultaneous
[01:00] <nytryx_> humm im going to go check it out do i need a client on the other end or just the server on my end?
[01:00] <nytryx_> wait i said tat backwards
[01:01] <kimbja98> when I use the install CD, it freezes upon detecting my USB devices...
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: sudo pico /etc/fstab (or your choice of editor).
[01:01] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: What is a umount? I know what the command does and how it is used. But how do I combine it with fstab ?
[01:01] <j2daosh> u need a server on both ends
[01:01] <sethk> Unless you are controlling a windows machine from your linux box, none of these desktop things like vnc are necessary.
[01:01] <Seveas> j2daosh, no
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Ignore that bit actually, I meant umask.
[01:01] <whisky> how can i play .mpg with totem?
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Sorry.
[01:01] <j2daosh> really seveas?
[01:01] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Oooh :)
[01:01] <nytryx_> ok it would be a windows box being controled from a linux box
[01:01] <bimberi> j2daosh: no, server on the machine you want to log into
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Does that make more sense?
[01:01] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: That sounds right
[01:01] <sethk> To view the linux desktop on either another linux desktop or windows requires only things built into X and freely available.
[01:01] <nytryx_> so just install the server on thewindows box?
[01:01] <Seveas> only the server needs the freenx server, the client needs the Nomachine NX client
[01:01] <j2daosh> hmmm
[01:02] <Kzar_fr> Jemt, make a backup of your /etc/sftab first...
[01:02] <cafuego> Nytryx; Then yes, it will log you out from Windows.
[01:02] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Think I have used that ealier
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Just add something like umask=000 to the options part of fstab then.
[01:02] <j2daosh> crap
[01:02] <Seveas> nytryx_, no, for that you need vnc/windows rdp
[01:02] <Squee-D> seth Cyg X doesnt bring the effect of having a WM along with it tho.
[01:02] <bla|patrick> crap, its like if i am ignoerd :(
[01:02] <bla|patrick> good night guy
[01:02] <bla|patrick> this isnt helping me
[01:02] <j2daosh> so ur telling me the nomachine "server" i have been using to try and conect at work is only the client?
[01:02] <nytryx_> ok so i dont need to put anything on my linux desktop to use FreeNX on the windows box?
[01:02] <Seveas> but connecting a client to a linux server is possible
[01:02] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: And what does it do?
[01:02] <cafuego> Nytryx: Default Gnome has Application -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client, which does windows remote desktop.
[01:02] <whisky> how can i play .mpg? totem doesnt seem to do it
[01:03] <varsendagger> whisky, mplayer should
[01:03] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Still no write permission
[01:03] <nytryx_> but it kicks the currently loged in user off when i login remotely
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: It's basically the opposite of permissions, setting what is hidden (masked).
[01:03] <cafuego> Nytryx: if you want to use vnc or freenx, you'll need to install those on both linux and Windows.
[01:03] <whisky> varsendagger, apt-get install mplayer ?
[01:03] <sethk> Nytryx, I don't know about that, but all you need to put your linux desktop onto your windows box is X, and cygwin includes a free precompiled X server for windows
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: You have to umount and mount again before a new fstab entry takes effect.
[01:03] <Kzar_fr> Nytryx, FreeNX ? no it doesn"t
[01:03] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Ok, IC. Under <option> I now have this : defaults,umask=000
[01:03] <whisky> !mplayer
[01:03] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:03] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: I know :)
[01:03] <sethk> Nytryx, nothing needs to be installed on the linux side.  The capability is built into X.
[01:03] <olipaul> hi all. i'm trying to get my two machines to talk via their wireless nics.
[01:03] <j2daosh> when i try a ssh i get the server was explicitly killed
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: And make sure it was the options line fore the Fat32 drive or partition, of course.
[01:03] <n0dl> how do i take a screenshot in terminal?
[01:03] <j2daosh> i can only putty to my box
[01:03] <varsendagger> yeah it works really well
[01:04] <olipaul> i can see the server's essid on the client, but not sure how to get an ip on the client side
[01:04] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Of cause :)
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Can I get the whole line?
[01:04] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Dosn't work
[01:04] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Sure, sec
[01:04] <Kzar_fr> j2daosh, putty IS an ssh client for WIndows
[01:04] <M_Cheevy> heay folks... managed after much blood sweat and tears to get debian installed on a sata raid0 array.  Yesterday my disks for ubuntu arrived.  thinking of making the swap, can anyone give me an honest appraisal of the short comings / benefits of making the swap over?
[01:04] <nytryx_> ok so install FreeNX on the windows box is all i need to do?
[01:04] <olipaul> anyone have an idea?
[01:04] <sethk> Nytryx, why do you want to install freenx on the windows box?
[01:04] <Jemt> /dev/hda4   /media/hda4   vfat   defaults,umask=000   0   0
[01:04] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: /dev/hda4   /media/hda4   vfat   defaults,umask=000   0   0
[01:04] <Kzar_fr> nytryx_, no, you need Terminal Server under Windows
[01:04] <morale_> im having trouble getting my ati m7 card working in ubuntu, anyone have a dell inspiron laptop and got acceleration going?
[01:04] <j2daosh> well with putty i can ssh in... do any command line work but it wont forward the gui... and when i use nomachine i get an error about no server on this side
[01:04] <Kzar_fr> and Nomachine client under Linux
[01:05] <nytryx_> i want to be able to do ipconfig and what not remotely when my wife calls me and says "the internet is down"
[01:05] <olipaul> anybody?
[01:05] <j2daosh> lol ny
[01:05] <sethk> Nytryx, for that I just run sshd on windows
[01:05] <Kzar_fr> nytryx_, if Internet is down, you wil not be abble to connect in your wife comp's !
[01:05] <j2daosh> yeah you dont need to prt the gui to do that
[01:05] <Kyral> sethk: which is usesless with the Net down
[01:05] <nytryx_> so i need openssh on windows?
[01:05] <j2daosh> its all command based anyway
[01:05] <sethk> Nytryx, install the cygwin package.  It has the ssh, sshd, all the cli stuff you need for windows.
[01:06] <nytryx_> lol on the net work i will be
[01:06] <sethk> Kyral, every remote software is useless with the net down.
[01:06] <sethk> Kyral, one is hardly any more useless than another
[01:06] <varsendagger> debian is great, ubuntus community is really the heart of the what i think makes ubuntu better than debian, and the fact that there is a new release every six months
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: And even after saving that and using sudo to remount it still doesn't cooperate?
[01:06] <varsendagger> M_Cheevy,
[01:06] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Correct
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: That line is identical to mine, other than the device and mount point.
[01:07] <Kzar_fr> varsendagger, no troll please, it's late here in France.
[01:07] <BenUrban> Seveas: problem solved, thanks a lot
[01:07] <nytryx_> Kzar_fr we have a home network lol and she always looses her connection  and i always have to run ipconfig for her because she does'nt know or like doing it
[01:07] <n0dl> does anyone know how to take a screenshot in term?
[01:07] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Hmm, wierd
[01:07] <M_Cheevy> varsendagger: it also appears as if the initramfs tools are a little more mature, or is that just my lack of knowledge about initramfs?
[01:07] <sethk> M_Cheevy, more mature than what?
[01:07] <varsendagger> M_Cheevy, i really don't know
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: This is just a local drive, right?  I don't know what would happen if it was some network thing.
[01:08] <M_Cheevy> varsendagger: than the similiar tools in debian.. maybe mature isn't the word, but definately appears more user-friendly
[01:08] <nytryx_> brn
[01:08] <varsendagger> could be
[01:08] <Squee-D> cafuego: dmesg seems to find the drive well enough. running fdisk on it works well (/dev/hde) but the 'partman' portion of the install is very slow, and after the bar reaches 100% the screen blanks blue with the one whit eline at the end and thats where it stays
[01:08] <nytryx_> brb
[01:08] <Kzar_fr> Ubuntu is desktop "out of the box" oriented
[01:08] <Kzar_fr> that's all
[01:08] <M_Cheevy> varsendagger: as for the community, I have to agree, if it wasn't for the wiki I wouldn't have gotten anywhere with debian...
[01:08] <sethk> M_Cheevy, they are identical
[01:08] <Squee-D> the partition obviously need to be removed as it has a single ntfs on there at the moment, but i thought i would get an interface to do so
[01:08] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: It's a local drive
[01:09] <M_Cheevy> sethk: I thought the repositories only got sync'd every six months so the packages do diverge quite a bit?
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> Jemt:  Hmm...curious.
[01:09] <sethk> M_Cheevy, initramfs & co is kernel stuff, the same on all distros for a given kernel version
[01:09] <varsendagger> M_Cheevy, i really cant't really think of anything that is a blaring issue, you may have to deal with using sudo rather than su
[01:09] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: most packages probably don't diverge much (if at all)... some OTOH will change a lot
[01:09] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Hmm, I actually got write access in a terminal
[01:09] <Jemt> It might be Gnome File Browser that is not working
[01:10] <Kzar_fr> Q: is there a way to join 2 partition? I mean join /dev/hda1 (mounted on / ) and /dev/hda2 (monted on /home ) ?
[01:10] <M_Cheevy> sethk: okay... just checking... the whole bootstrap issue is a bit more complicated than when I first started with linux back in the 0.99 kernel days
[01:10] <cmatheson> Kzar_fr: check out parted
[01:10] <sethk> Kzar_fr, LVM does something similar
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Interesting.  Had you closed and restarted the file browser in between these steps?
[01:10] <cmatheson> Kzar_fr: but you'll need to boot off the livecd or something because you can't have the drive mounted
[01:10] <sethk> Kzar_fr, and you can use links to get a similar effect as well.
[01:10] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: I have now - still dosn't work
[01:10] <Kzar_fr> sethk, ok, I'm a bit lack of free disk space.
[01:10] <M_Cheevy> varsendagger: a couple of command name changes don't phase me, over the yrs I've swap distros a few times
[01:10] <Kzar_fr> cmatheson, for sure
[01:10] <sethk> Kzar_fr, LVM separates your physical disks/partitions from your logical space
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: I wonder if logging out and back in would help, if you can get it in a terminal.
[01:11] <Kzar_fr> sethk, yep
[01:11] <sethk> Kzar_fr, but sometimes a few symbolic links can accomplish something similar with much less work.
[01:11] <olipaul> have i got this setup right. server has two nics. one wired to the router (.11) and the wireless nic is up, with an ip of .13, and gateway .11 - my client can see the essid, but selecting static ip and gateway of .13 gives me nothing.
[01:11] <varsendagger> M_Cheevy, what do you like about debian
[01:11] <cmatheson> sethk: hey i've been meaning to play around w/ LVM, but i always wonder if there is some sort of performance hit involved
[01:11] <varsendagger> i really like the apt-get feature
[01:11] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Giving it a try :)
[01:11] <Kzar_fr> sethk, that will not be usefull for me :)
[01:11] <sethk> cmatheson, well, of course there is always an impact, but it is very minor.
[01:12] <M_Cheevy> varsendagger: not sworn to it, tried it out as it was one of the ones mentioned in the first article I read about sata "fake"raid on linux...
[01:12] <cmatheson> sethk: hmm, i'll have to try it on one of my servers one of these days
[01:12] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: BRB
[01:12] <mz2> oh wow, this VMWare Player rocks
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: okay.
[01:12] <Kzar_fr> LVM works over any filesystem my current kernel is supporting, right ?
[01:13] <techrush> so ive got ubuntu all set up but now i dont know what to do with it
[01:13] <techrush> what should i do
[01:13] <mz2> works perfectly in Dapper at least just when you download the tar and run the installation with default settings. am ircing from FC5T1 now
[01:13] <Kzar_fr> techrush, give your comp to someone in need of it ?
[01:13] <varsendagger> techrush, what do you normally run
[01:13] <cmatheson> techrush: umm... use it?
[01:13] <mz2> works surprisingly quickly as well. you hardly notice the difference
[01:14] <techrush> i normally use ableton live and cool edit pro
[01:14] <varsendagger> install dgen and zsnes and find some sega and SNES roms
[01:14] <M_Cheevy> techrush: and those programmes allow you to do exactly what? (image edit, video edit, make web pages, what?)
[01:14] <varsendagger> We have audacity that is like cool edit pro
[01:14] <jemt> Tony_Sidaway: Thanks for your help. Restarting helped :)
[01:14] <jemt> Later :)
[01:15] <techrush> sequence music
[01:15] <n0dl> does anyone know how to use imagemagick?
[01:15] <varsendagger> rosegarden is like cubase
[01:15] <M_Cheevy> there is also a good midi sequencer in the packages for download
[01:15] <M_Cheevy> rose garden, that's it
[01:15] <Seveas> n0cturnal_, look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/, they are wonderful
[01:15] <Seveas> n0dl*
[01:16] <n0dl> yes Seveas?
[01:16] <varsendagger> is there anything like frutyloops for linux?
[01:16] <mz2> techrush: you won't find anything like ableton in linux, i'm afraid. rosegarden and ardour are the best audio enthusiast/pro level software really
[01:16] <MasterTsunami> you can make webpages with screem :/
[01:16] <M_Cheevy> techrush: take a look through the Multimedia section of Synaptic (Package Manager) and also the menu item by the same name.
[01:16] <n0dl> i just played with it
[01:16] <n0dl> 15:57 < sapo> but i use just gedit for php
[01:16] <n0dl> 15:57 <@bored2k> i'm using jed (txt based.. rox) and anjuta atm
[01:16] <n0dl> 15:57 < sapo> i dont need more than code highlighting
[01:16] <techrush> ok
[01:16] <techrush> nothing like ableton in linux :(
[01:16] <monkeymullet> Oh man
[01:16] <monkeymullet> I installled xubuntu and now I cant get into KDE or GNOME, complains about ~/.DOCPserver_Computername_0
[01:16] <mz2> muse's pretty good as well in features, but it's very much unfinished and useless in usability
[01:16] <techrush> i geuss ubuntu will just be my porn os
[01:16] <techrush> lol
[01:16] <trout> Hi guys... I have a backuppc problem
[01:16] <M_Cheevy> techrish: what is ableton?
[01:16] <Squee-D> techrush also, freshmeat.net and sourceforge.net and search for the kind of things that interest you
[01:17] <n0dl> Seveas: yeh?
[01:17] <trout> I installed it and unfortunately did not pay attention to the web interface to config it.
[01:17] <Seveas> n0dl, look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/, they are wonderful
[01:17] <trout> I can't find it anywhere... any ideas
[01:17] <Toma-> monkeymullet": ive got the same problem i think...
[01:17] <varsendagger> how do you change the default user info for firefox
[01:17] <M_Cheevy> trout: fail to pay attention in linux at your own risk...
[01:17] <n0dl> Seveas: alright i will tahnk you
[01:17] <trout> i am learning that quickly
[01:17] <mz2> techrush: although the whole jackd based architechture in the proper linux audio apps is pretty nice. extremely low latencies and free routing of inputs and outputs, a bit like what you get done between different proprietary applications in mac and windows as well
[01:17] <Seveas> not trying to RTFM you here, but these docs are good
[01:17] <M_Cheevy> trout: try dpkg -L <package name> it will list the locations of the files.
[01:17] <monkeymullet> Toma-, u getting anywere?
[01:18] <scott> My dvd does not work in Ubuntu! how do i get it working anyone???
[01:18] <Toma-> is there a way to get some debugging output from the gnome startup? does it log somewhere?
[01:18] <mz2> only that they only need to support jackd, not a zillion different of these proprietary routing standards :)
[01:18] <Toma-> monkeymullet: nope
[01:18] <trout> yes I have done that, but where from there?
[01:18] <cmatheson> scott: you should be more specific
[01:18] <varsendagger> what does RTFM mean?
[01:18] <cmatheson> varsendagger: read the freakin' manual
[01:18] <Seveas> Read the F* manual
[01:18] <seth_k|lappy> read the "fine" manual
[01:18] <Squee-D> techrush and if what you want doesnt exist, start a project and learn to code :)
[01:18] <varsendagger> ak
[01:18] <M_Cheevy> scott: dvd's don't play or you can't even see the drive?
[01:18] <techrush> lol @ me learning to code
[01:18] <MasterTsunami> doesn't audacity do me music
[01:18] <techrush> :)
[01:18] <MasterTsunami> and some other stuf f:/
[01:18] <redguy> isn't it Read the Friendly Manual?
[01:19] <M_Cheevy> tech: who said you needed to learn how to code?
[01:19] <cmatheson> redguy: haha, all of the above
[01:19] <Squee-D> im pretty sure its read the far king manual
[01:19] <Squee-D> tho i guess thats rtfkm
[01:19] <techrush> Squee-D did
[01:19] <Anon1690> Hey guys, I did some searching around and couldn't find how to fix the * cannot execute "sbin/getty" error, help?
[01:19] <MasterTsunami> and ardour does music? :|
[01:19] <M_Cheevy> redguy: I've also seen it as "fine" manual.. it's like snafu... Situation Normal all Fouled/F*cked up.. depends on the audience which you use.
[01:19] <techrush> i looked at ardour but it only records
[01:19] <techrush> no sequencer
[01:19] <MasterTsunami> techrush, http://lalists.stanford.edu/lau/2005/04/0534.html
[01:20] <MasterTsunami> :/
[01:20] <techrush> (not yet)
[01:20] <Toma-> my gnome session isnt starting right. gets past the splash then starts making error sounds at me with no dialogs. i try loading xfce and i get no panels either. havent tried kde, but im in centericq now thru irc :( is there anyway to get some feedback from the gnome startup????
[01:20] <mz2> techrush: yes, no midi sequencing
[01:20] <mz2> techrush: although it does support automation through midi, even control surfaces
[01:20] <cmatheson> Toma-: check your ~/.xsession-errors
[01:20] <Toma-> ok!
[01:20] <M_Cheevy> techrush: there is a sequencing program, just look through the multimedia section of the packages on packages.ubuntu.net
[01:20] <scott> Dvd player shows up but when you try to play one it does not work?
[01:20] <techrush> ok
[01:20] <techrush> thanks guys
[01:20] <Sanuska> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:20] <mz2> techrush: rosegarden is a reasonably good sequencer
[01:20] <M_Cheevy> scott: okay... it's probably the old css issue...
[01:21] <apollo2011> When I create a new login from Applications->System Tools->New Login, how do I switch between the first login and the new one?
[01:21] <Squee-D> "can help me find the uptodate driver for win xp-sp2?"  found on the ubuntu forums in a topic regarding the HPT370 module
[01:21] <mz2> very easy to use, although doesn't come anywhere near to ableton in features :)
[01:21] <scott> What is CSS/
[01:21] <corresponder> yummi
[01:21] <Sanuska> Sytle Sheets?
[01:21] <redguy> techrush: sequencer is the same thing that tracker is?
[01:21] <corresponder> good night
[01:21] <aTypical> Cascading Style Sheets
[01:21] <M_Cheevy> scott: the encryption of dvd's to prevent copying or is it CCS
[01:22] <trout> ok, so I have dbkg and found usr/share/doc/backup.html. WHen I go there in nautilus the directory is empty?
[01:22] <varsendagger> is there anything like frutyloops?
[01:22] <Seveas> M_Cheevy, n, that's alsco CSS
[01:22] <monkeymullet> Toma-, xICE has n00bed my ubuntu
[01:22] <MasterTsunami> i think wired will work like ableton soon :/
[01:22] <abaqueri> gday
[01:22] <MasterTsunami> http://bloodshed.net/wired
[01:22] <MasterTsunami> :/
[01:22] <bimberi> apollo2011: Applications -> System Tools -> New Login
[01:22] <redguy> techrush: there's an impulse tracker clone for linux. a friend of mine says that it superseeds the original in some aspects
[01:22] <MasterTsunami> anyway, http://www.linux-sound.org/
[01:22] <Sanuska> Anyone know how to fix "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" All there was on the forums was a topic about it and no fix.
[01:22] <MasterTsunami> go get over informed
[01:22] <apollo2011> bimberi: yeah, but is there a way to switch between the two once I have created a second?
[01:22] <abaqueri> anyone knows how I can convert Mpeg to DVD?
[01:22] <Squee-D> techrush basically, if something you want does not exist, the most expedient thing is to help projects that are heading in the right direction
[01:22] <M_Cheevy> !marillat
[01:22] <ubotu> If you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed.
[01:22] <bimberi> apollo2011: then ctrl-alt-f7 will be the first login and ctrl-alt-f8 will be the second
[01:23] <scott> Is there a way around it?
[01:23] <apollo2011> bimberi: oh ok thx
[01:23] <monkeymullet> what happens if i uninstall ICE when im running ICE?
[01:23] <redguy> techrush: it's called chesetracker
[01:23] <techrush> ok
[01:23] <Squee-D> and ya can help with testing, coding, documentation, samples, donation etc..
[01:23] <M_Cheevy> scott: you can get what you need from the nearest marillat repository.. some one here should be able to give you an url to it
[01:23] <bimberi> apollo2011: oops, misread your question.  But got there anyway :)
[01:23] <Squee-D> i was just being a little facetious with the 'learn to code' thing :)
[01:23] <MasterTsunami> techrush, www.linux-sound.org
[01:23] <MasterTsunami> :/
[01:24] <techrush> cool thanks everyone
[01:24] <techrush> dinner time bbl
[01:24] <M_Cheevy> scott: this article talks about it, just above the "swatting bugs" section: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-ubuntu
[01:24] <whitesoft> Hi!
[01:24] <Toma-> my .xsession-errors looks like an xice error factory
[01:24] <ajmitch> Squee-D: you're encouraging people to help out on ubuntu? great :)
[01:24] <Jemt> I have a wierd problem with my shared FAT32 partition (shared ressource for Win XP and Ubuntu). All folders containing danish characters (,  and ) is being displayed with a '?' instead of the danish character and with the following text in the folder name : (invalid encoding). How can I fix this? I want Windows and Linux to be 100% compatable - I can't afford data lose
[01:24] <scott> thanks i will check it out!!
[01:24] <sulan_> hello .. howe do i get acces to ubuntu from windows ?? i have installed the smb server.. i see it but i cant get acces to it .. plz help
[01:25] <Squee-D> ajmitch - on any foss project
[01:25] <Squee-D> ajmitch and hiya :)
[01:25] <M_Cheevy> scott: de nada
[01:25] <ajmitch> Squee-D: get them working on ubuntu, we need willing vic^Wvolunteers
[01:25] <M_Cheevy> Jemt: not clear, which OS is messing up the characters?
[01:25] <Sanuska> "* cannot execute "sbin/getty" Can someone please help? I've been getting this error for about a half an hour now on my linux back..
[01:25] <Sanuska> box*
[01:26] <Squee-D> aj what project i know you from? one of the wiki/groupware tools right?
[01:26] <ajmitch> Squee-D: probably
[01:26] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: Ubuntu is
[01:26] <ajmitch> Squee-D: phpgroupware, I bet
[01:26] <Squee-D> yeah that sounds bout right
[01:26] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: Don't think Windows would act like this :)
[01:26] <ajmitch> Squee-D: but I tend to spend a lot more time on ubuntu :)
[01:26] <Squee-D> Im so annoyed by groupware tools
[01:26] <Squee-D> nothing ever fits
[01:27] <ptlo> is it safe to install linux-image-2.6.15 package from ubuntu archives, on breezy? i guess it's for dapper, but i need the bleeding edge version of kernel, and i'd like to avoid manual recompiling if i can
[01:27] <M_Cheevy> Jemt: sounds like you might need to run dpkg-reconfigure locations and select the ones that correspond to your language, you can select more than one.
[01:27] <ajmitch> Squee-D: we should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:27] <M_Cheevy> Jemt: that's 'dpkg-reconfigure locations'
[01:27] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: Ok, I'll try that
[01:28] <Toma-> im also getting a "Hostname lookup failure on localhost" from gnome. i havent changed my hostname at all....
[01:28] <Sanuska> The forum post says "Solved!" But the person never posted a fix...
[01:28] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: 'locations' is not installed
[01:28] <M_Cheevy> Toma: do you have a localhost entry in your /etc/hosts file?
[01:28] <bimberi> Toma-: check that /etc/hosts has localhost for 127.0.0.1
[01:29] <M_Cheevy> Jemt: that might be it... I take it you're having langauge characters problems elsewhere (other than just 'ls') too?
[01:29] <x_or> I've got a broken gnucash install.  I've tried running sudo apt-get -f install, but I keep getting this error:  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libofx2_1%3a0.8.0-3ubuntu8_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl', which is also in package libofx0c102 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[01:29] <x_or> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:29] <Toma-> ok
[01:29] <x_or> Can anyone tell me what I can do to repair this?
[01:29] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: Don't think so..
[01:30] <Toma-> didnt do any good :(
[01:30] <mkyb14> awstats.. how to you start it or use it after installing the apt-get version
[01:30] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: No problems in irssi (IRC) and my text editors
[01:30] <Seveas> x_or, that's icky, a missing Replaces: / Conflicts: pait
[01:30] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: nor in a console/terminal
[01:30] <Seveas> x_or, please report yhis on bugzilla
[01:31] <Sanuska> Could someone please help me with "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" they said they fixed it but no fix was posted
[01:31] <mcphail> Toma-: try editing /etc/fstab
[01:31] <Seveas> x_or, you can solve it with dpkg --purge --force-depends remove libofx0c102 && apt-get -f install
[01:31] <M_Cheevy> Jemt: hmm, okay, it might be called something other than locations in this distro.....
[01:31] <ajmitch> Seveas: oh that one is well known, and it's in universe
[01:31] <Toma-> mcphail what will that accomplish?
[01:31] <mcphail> Toma-: you could add an iocharset option to the vfat options
[01:31] <Toma-> im not using vfat
[01:32] <Seveas> ajmitch, ah ok, fix it then, you're the motu :p
[01:32] <ajmitch> Seveas: it's a dependency of gnucash, that we almost got fixed properly before release :)
[01:32] <mcphail> Toma-: iocharset=utf-8 (i'm not certain of the syntax)
[01:32] <mjr> "iocharset=utf8"
[01:32] <M_Cheevy> Toma: didn't you say you were??? on xp?
[01:32] <mjr> the kernel doesn't want dashes
[01:32] <ajmitch> Seveas: yes, well.. breezy has been released :P
[01:32] <Seveas> b-updates :)
[01:32] <Toma-> haha no way. im in centreicq. a cli client
[01:32] <Sanuska> I'm guessing I should just try reinstalling?
[01:33] <ajmitch> Seveas: not sure why it didn't go in there
[01:33] <mcphail> Toma-: thanks mjr. Then umount and mount the partition
[01:33] <M_Cheevy> Toma: whoops, my bad, that was Jemt
[01:33] <monkeymullet> how do u uninstall xfce. doing apt-get uninstall xubuntu-desktop doesnt work
[01:33] <Seveas> monkeymullet, use debfoster to prune xubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <Toma-> mcphail: why would i wanna do that?
[01:33] <x_or> Seveas:  Where should I report this?
[01:33] <mike> hey all
[01:33] <mcphail> Toma-: hmm. am i mixing you up with Jemt as well?
[01:34] <mcphail> Toma-: sorry
[01:34] <Seveas> x_or, nowhere, ajmitch just told me it is already known
[01:34] <Jemt> I have a wierd problem with my shared FAT32 partition (shared ressource for Win XP and Ubuntu). All folders containing danish characters (,  and ) is being displayed with a '?' instead of the danish character and with the following text in the folder name : (invalid encoding). How can I fix this?
[01:34] <M_Cheevy> mcphail: I thnk you are.. Jemt is the one with the character set issues in vfat
[01:34] <x_or> Seveas:  Ok, thanks!  Your suggestion worked, thank you very much
[01:34] <mike> quick question for anyone who's at all knowlegable about Ubuntu
[01:34] <M_Cheevy> mchpail: and I might have started it ;)
[01:34] <Hobbsee> !tell mike about anyone
[01:34] <Seveas> Jemt, set an iocharset in /etc/fstab
[01:34] <Jemt> M_Cheevy: Yes
[01:34] <mcphail> Jemt: try what i mistakenly said to Toma- above!
[01:35] <Sanuska> Could someone please assist me? * cannot execute "sbin/getty", I think i'm just gonna try reinstalling or something
[01:35] <Jemt> mcphail: Ok :)
[01:35] <M_Cheevy> mcphail: in debian it would be handled by reconfiguring "locations" what's that package named in this distro?
[01:35] <monkeymullet> what is debfoster?
[01:36] <mcphail> M_Cheevy: would that also change the iocharset is fstab?
[01:36] <M_Cheevy> it's an aussie beer drinking debutante?
[01:36] <mike> How do I install gftp? I've tried sudo apt-get install gftp, but i get a quick package and dependency finish and then a Couldn't find package gftp
[01:36] <Toma-> how does this debfoster work? sudo debfoster -p xubuntu-desktop?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: Did you succeed?
[01:36] <Jemt> How should this iocharset look like ?
[01:36] <M_Cheevy> mcphail: that hanles the drive's file system, but the language setting is more global than that
[01:37] <Toma-> monkeymullet: you need to apt-get install it
[01:37] <Jemt> And where should I specify it?
[01:37] <Sanuska> * cannot execute "sbin/getty", help?
[01:37] <dooglus> Toma-: what are you wanting to do with debfoster?
[01:38] <mcphail> M_Cheevy: i'm not sure changing locales would alter options in /etc/fstab. I think mount likes to receive specific options.
[01:38] <Toma-> dooglus: trying to remove xubuntu-desktop and all its deps
[01:38] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Yep, I now have write permission :)
[01:38] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: It was just the File Browser that gave me problems
[01:38] <mike> Any idea why apt-get install gftp would say it couldnt find package gftp? I was under the impression it would download and install gftp, otherwise, what must I do first before the install
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> Jemt: All right.  Glad it's figured out.
[01:39] <Jemt> tonyyarusso: Me too :)
[01:39] <Toma-> mike: you need to enable universe and multiverse first
[01:39] <Hobbsee> !info gftp
[01:39] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[01:39] <Hobbsee> it's in universe
[01:39] <SWAT> I wish to re-encode an MP3 file, how can I do this?
[01:39] <Toma-> as you can see
[01:39] <monkeymullet> dooglus, because xubuntu has caused KDE and gNOME not to load
[01:39] <Jemt> Seveas: How do I set an iocharset in my fstab ?
[01:39] <brian_> hay
[01:39] <mike> is that in the synaptic package mgr?
[01:39] <monkeymullet> dooglus, just blank screen then back to session login
[01:39] <Sanuska> Does anyone know how to fix * cannot execute "sbin/getty"? At least say no so I know your getting my messages :/
[01:40] <Hobbsee> Sanuska: we're getting your messages - i have no clue, sorry
[01:40] <korhalf> SWAT: what do you mean re-encode?
[01:40] <korhalf> SWAT: use sound Converter
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible/advisable to have two separate installations a Firefox, one with all sorts of extensions, and one to use when you need something light and fast?
[01:40] <korhalf> SWAT: under apps you can do it.
[01:40] <mcphail> Jemt: change the 4th column in the line with "windows" to read "iocharset=utf8"
[01:40] <korhalf> tonyyarusso: if you want something light and fast, use dillo
[01:40] <SWAT> korhalf, re-encode 192 to 128
[01:41] <SWAT> for MP3 player usage
[01:41] <korhalf> SWAT: yeah either that or use lame and reencode with that..
[01:41] <SWAT> korhalf, thanks I'll look into it :)
[01:41] <Ophiocus> darn i have like the weirdest bug with my networking
[01:41] <korhalf> SWAT: lame -b 128 file output
[01:41] <Ophiocus> anyone wanna hear it?
[01:41] <fgg> can i use the internet using usb on ubuntu
[01:41] <Jemt> mcphail: Like this: defaults,umask=000,iocharset=utf8   ?
[01:41] <korhalf> SWAT: actually default is 128 bitrate anyway..
[01:41] <mike> how do I enable universe?
[01:41] <fgg> using a d-link DSL302-G
[01:42] <dooglus> Toma-: so you just run "debfoster" without arguments, say "y" to ubuntu-desktop and "p" to xubuntu-desktop.
[01:42] <mcphail> Jemt: that'll probably do the job
[01:42] <mike> and multiverse for that matter
[01:42] <westymatt> is ubuntu 5.1 supposed to have gcc and glibc install by default?
[01:42] <Jemt> mike: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <SWAT> korhalf, thanks :) How can I do this with all files in a dir? :D
[01:42] <mike> thank you
[01:42] <mjr> westymatt, gcc not, install the build-essential package
[01:42] <dooglus> Toma-: use your judgement for the other questions - if unsure, you can 's' to skip the question or '?' to see a description of the package
[01:42] <korhalf> SWAT: write a script like this
[01:42] <westymatt> where can i find that at?
[01:42] <westymatt> thank you for your help
[01:42] <Jemt> mcphail: Ok, cool. But I'm not sure it is a good idea to use UTF8. I think Windows is using ISO-8859-1(5)
[01:42] <Jemt> mcphail: Might be wrong though
[01:42] <mcphail> Jemt: then use that instead
[01:42] <korhalf> SWAT: for x in `cat dir`; do; lame $x $x; done;
[01:42] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you don't need 2 installations, just 2 profiles.  run "firefox -P" (or was it '-p'?) to see the profile dialog
[01:42] <mjr> Jemt, Windows actually natively uses utf-16 in its filesystems
[01:43] <korhalf> SWAT: i think i put too many semicolons but its something like that.
[01:43] <Toma-> debfoster anyone?
[01:43] <bor> korhalf: cat on dir won't work
[01:43] <Jemt> mjr: Ok, great. Thanks :)
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Good point.
[01:43] <korhalf> SWAT: that should basically iterate through the directory full of mp3s, and then encode them with the same name but at 128
[01:43] <mjr> but that's irrelevant, it should be converted to utf-8 at the filesystem driver layer
[01:43] <korhalf> bor: it wont?
[01:43] <korhalf> in that case use ls.
[01:43] <korhalf> SWAT: for x in `ls dir`; do; lame $x $x; done;
[01:43] <mjr> (or some other charset, but utf-8 is the sanest choice)
[01:43] <dooglus> SWAT: for i in *; do lame "$i" "$i"; done
[01:43] <Sanuska> Will someone PLEASE help me? I keep getting "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" then something like "ID "X" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes"
[01:43] <SWAT> hehehe, thanks korhalf and dooglus
[01:43] <Jemt> BRB - needs to restart X
[01:43] <Sanuska> X being whatever number
[01:43] <bor> SWAT: for f in /path/to/dir/*.mp3; do lame -b 192 $x $x.player; done
[01:43] <korhalf> dooglus: okay there, you got it down lol
[01:44] <dooglus> korhalf: it's best not to `ls` - that will break if files have spaces in their names
[01:44] <SWAT> and bor thanks :)
[01:44] <korhalf> bor: he wants 128
[01:44] <korhalf> dooglus: i dont do much bash scripting myself, but ill remember that, thanks :)
[01:44] <sethk> SWAT, dooglus lame should take a list of files.  So the loop is not necessary
[01:44] <Blejdfizt> ubotu: tell Blejdfizt about w32codecs
[01:44] <bor> sethk: no, lame takes an input and an output file
[01:45] <korhalf> exactly, i think you HAVE to iterate through the items.
[01:45] <varsendagger> ok this is weired i have firefox right and it opend up a really old user profile and i try to open my regular one and it sais it is in use, does anyone know what is going on?
[01:45] <korhalf> varsendagger: yes, it's in use.
[01:45] <westymatt> hey mjr
[01:45] <westymatt> can i apt-get gcc?
[01:46] <korhalf> westymatt: Uh, i think you have gcc by default.
[01:46] <varsendagger> how do i make it not inuse and then open it up again
[01:46] <westymatt> new debian user sorry for dumb question
[01:46] <korhalf> westymatt: and why are you compiling things anyway? unless of course, you're a programmer
[01:46] <westymatt> its not in the $PATH
[01:46] <Jemt> Thanks for all your help. Changing iocharset in fstab really helped. I now have support for danish characters :D
[01:46] <korhalf> varsendagger: killall instances of firefox and restart.
[01:46] <Jemt> Ubuntu rules :)
[01:46] <mcphail> westymatt: apt-get build-essential
[01:46] <sethk> varsendagger, do ps aux | grep firefox.    there is probably an old instance running
[01:46] <korhalf> mcphail: damn, said it before i could
[01:46] <westymatt> yeah i just did that
[01:46] <westymatt> wall all is in it?
[01:46] <westymatt> gcc and glibc?
[01:46] <varsendagger> korhalf, yeahh i tried that
[01:46] <mcphail> korhalf: ;)
[01:46] <lewwy> hi guys
[01:47] <sethk> varsendagger, there may be a leftover lock file
[01:47] <mcphail> Jemt: enjoy
[01:47] <westymatt> what all in the build essential package ?
[01:47] <westymatt> both gcc and glibc?
[01:47] <Sanuska> Guys/Girls I nreally need help with this "* cannot execute "sbin/getty"" error
[01:47] <korhalf> varsendagger: id advise just rebooting, it'd probably be faster to do that then to find the offending process.
[01:47] <SWAT> bor, he's whining about not finding .player :-/
[01:47] <mcphail> westymatt: yes
[01:47] <westymatt> thanks appreciated
[01:47] <sethk> Sanuska, you get that message doing what?
[01:47] <Jemt> mcphail: :)
[01:48] <Sanuska> I installed Ub, rebooted
[01:48] <Sanuska> It went through installing and extracting some more files
[01:48] <Sanuska> Then got that
[01:48] <Sanuska> And ti's been on it even since
[01:48] <westymatt> thank you guys very much got my stuff
[01:48] <Sanuska> Just trying to exec that
[01:48] <varsendagger> westymatt, stick to .deb packages for a bit and then come back, what are you trying to install
[01:48] <korhalf> westymatt: no problem
[01:48] <korhalf> varsendagger: yeah i recommended that too, theres no need to compile when you have apt :)
[01:48] <dooglus> Sanuska: does it say /sbin/getty?  or sbin/getty?
[01:48] <Sanuska> Uh..lemme go check
[01:49] <Toma-> so no-one can gimme help with debfoster? EVEN those that suggested using it in the first place?
[01:49] <korhalf> unless of course you're going after some obscure packages that arent in the repository
[01:49] <sethk> Sanuska, what is trying to exec?  Do you get text on the screen during boot, and the last line says something about getty?
[01:49] <dooglus> Toma-: what's up?
[01:49] <varsendagger> true story
[01:49] <dooglus> Toma-: did you see the 2 lines I wrote to you 7 minutes ago?
[01:49] <Toma-> cant get it to remove a specific package, eg.. xubuntu-desktop. it just starts going thru my whole system of debs
[01:49] <Sanuska> Sethk: Yes, after booting "* cannot execute "/sbin/getty""
[01:49] <mcphail> On the subject of compiling, has anyone been able to build Cinelerra under amd64?
[01:50] <Toma-> dooglus: possibly not, im in a term window and using centreicq :(
[01:50] <sethk> Sanuska, sounds like the install didn't complete, and libraries are missing
[01:50] <Toma-> cli irc sux.
[01:50] <dooglus> Toma-: it needs to know which ones you want to keep and which ones you don't.  if you don't tell it that, how can it know which packages should be removed?
[01:50] <korhalf> Toma-: i use centericq for msn and what not, but NOT irc
[01:50] <korhalf> Toma-: thats for irssi
[01:50] <dooglus> Toma-: so you just run "debfoster" without arguments, say "y" to ubuntu-desktop and "p" to xubuntu-desktop.
[01:50] <dooglus> Toma-: use your judgement for the other questions - if unsure, you can 's' to skip the question or '?' to see a description of the package
[01:50] <Sanuska> Sethk: Just try reinstalling?
[01:50] <sethk> Sanuska, you can boot a rescue cd or a live cd and investigate, or reinstall
[01:50] <monkeymullet> hmm, not sure about debfoster, cos when i install xubuntu it said extra 100MB now purging it is 360MB
[01:50] <Toma-> ok
[01:50] <sethk> Sanuska, you might get the same result, but sure, try the reinstall before we do the hard things
[01:50] <Sanuska> Sethk: I'll try reinstalling, thanks
[01:51] <dooglus> Toma-: it's worth going through the list and answering the questions.  you only have to answer each question once - debfoster will remember what you tell it.
[01:51] <lewwy> does libgtk-2.0 have reverse compatibility with libgtk-1.2?
[01:51] <Toma-> ok then. :( ive only get... 1200 packages or something
[01:51] <Seveas> lewwy, no
[01:51] <Toma-> :P :(
[01:51] <monkeymullet> does ubuntu need acpi-support?
[01:51] <dooglus> Toma-: then next time you run it, after a week or so, it will ask you about the stuff you've installed since the last time.  stuff you probably installed, played with and forgot about.
[01:51] <Seveas> monkeymullet, yes
[01:51] <lewwy> damn!
[01:51] <mcphail> lewwy: not much
[01:52] <monkeymullet> debfoster wants to purge it
[01:52] <Seveas> monkeymullet, when debfoster is done, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <dooglus> Toma-: if you say 'y' to ubuntu-desktop that will stop it asking about any of the packages which are installed by default.
[01:52] <lewwy> Seveas, mcphail , I was trying to install cedega time demo, and it doesnt work
[01:52] <dooglus> Toma-: it only asks about packages which nothing depends upon.
[01:52] <lewwy> cuz it needs libgtk-1.2
[01:52] <Seveas> lewwy, then install it :)
[01:52] <lewwy> and libgtk 1.2 isnt on the repositry :(
[01:52] <Toma-> ahh k. is there a way to skip to ubuntu-desktop first?
[01:52] <dooglus> Toma-: also, instead of saying 'n', always say 'p' - that removes the package AND anything which is only kept because that package requires it.
[01:52] <Seveas> !info libgtk1.2
[01:52] <westymatt> just a quick question
[01:52] <ubotu> libgtk1.2: (The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-17build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 817 kB, Installed size: 1768 kB
[01:53] <Seveas> there it is :)
[01:53] <westymatt> i tried to login to superuser
[01:53] <lewwy> lol
[01:53] <mike> why, when I sudo gedut sources.list, do i get a gtk-warning, cannor open display?
[01:53] <Toma-> dooglus yeh i got that much
[01:53] <dooglus> Toma-: it will ask about ubuntu-desktop before it asks about anything which is required by ubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <mike> edi*
[01:53] <westymatt> i can't failed login
[01:53] <lewwy> well then again, it cant find kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <Toma-> dooglus, btw, thanks a bunch :D
[01:53] <korhalf> !tell westymatt about root
[01:53] <frogzoo> !tell westymatt about sudo
[01:53] <lewwy> its a tad suss
[01:53] <westymatt> but when gnome asks for a root password it takes it
[01:53] <Seveas> mike, run that as normal user, not as root
[01:53] <korhalf> frogzoo: dammmit :P
[01:53] <westymatt> i just used sudo and that worked fine
[01:53] <dooglus> Toma-: only if you say 'n' to ubuntu-desktop will it start asking about the dependancies of ubuntu-desktop.
[01:53] <korhalf> westymatt: you can use sudo -i to get a shell, or sudo bash
[01:53] <Seveas> NOT sudo bash
[01:53] <dooglus> (and if you say 'p' to ubuntu-desktop, you'll end up with a very empty, unbootable system!
[01:53] <dooglus> )
[01:53] <Seveas> that is dangerous
[01:54] <korhalf> Seveas: nah :)
[01:54] <mike> Seveas, no luck
[01:54] <korhalf> Seveas: then passwd
[01:54] <dooglus> Toma-: I'll shut up now.
[01:54] <monkeymullet> wouldnt it leave a server install
[01:54] <westymatt> thanks guys you have been most helpful
[01:54] <korhalf> Seveas: so i've used easyubuntu and sudo bash, my system should be broken by now lol
[01:54] <Seveas> monkeymullet, it would, except if you say 'p' to ubuntu-base too :)
[01:54] <dooglus> monkeymullet: I guess it would ask about ubuntu-base next - I'm not sure though, 'cos doesn't ubuntu-desktop depend on ubuntu-base?
[01:54] <Seveas> korhalf, I wouldn't be surprised
[01:55] <Seveas> dooglus, no
[01:55] <sethk> For something to be inadvisable, it doesn't have to break something each and every time you do it.
[01:55] <monkeymullet> it asked xubuntu, then ubuntu then kubuntu
[01:55] <varsendagger> what is ubuntu base?
[01:55] <monkeymullet> the base packages of ubuntu
[01:55] <bob_> if (grub bootloader defaults to ubuntu) then (how do I change the default to load windoze)?  i.e. can you edit grub defaults?
[01:55] <lewwy> why do i have only one repo in synaptic...
[01:56] <frogzoo> varsendagger: it a meta package - and its used to track distro upgrades, for instance
[01:56] <monkeymullet> thanks for all ur help. Going to purge everthing now and hope apt-get sorts it all out
[01:56] <frogzoo> bob_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst & then run 'sudo grub-install /dev/hdx'
[01:56] <bob_> tks much frog
[01:57] <jax0m> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7571/dscf07275js.jpg | http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/3506/dscf07284ex.jpg | http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3392/dscf07298uz.jpg
[01:57] <jax0m> is she a hottie?
[01:57] <mike> what group should I make myself so I can edit sources.list in gedit without it being read only?
[01:58] <frogzoo> jax0m: -> #ubuntu-offtopic :p
[01:58] <raphink> use sudo mike
[01:58] <korhalf> mike: it'smeant to only be written to by root.
[01:58] <frogzoo> Seveas beat me to it...
[01:59] <fr500> mike gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[02:00] <Toma-> yay :D had to completely remove xfce and kde to get my gnome back working! horray for untested/conflicting deb!
[02:00] <frogzoo> mike: ls -l /etc/sources.list
[02:01] <aTypical> Hey, all.  Is there a place where I can download a user guide in .pdf or .odt format?
[02:02] <Toma-> woot :D i win!
[02:02] <M_Cheevy> getting ready to install onto a sata raid0 array made up of a pair of seagate 80gb 7200 hds.. I've set up a 10gb partition for linux which will be used mostly for net'ing and music/video editing ... trying to decide best fs for this... should I go jfs, xfs or reiserfs? (cpu 2x2000+ amd athlons, 1gb pc2100 reg ecc, sil_3114 sata raid)
[02:02] <mustard5> aTypical, not that I know of
[02:03] <stef65> M_Cheevy: Complex question, I'd use reiser on a soft raid-0 for performance...
[02:04] <dooglus> Toba: I've installed both kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop and my GNOME still works.  I wonder what your problem was?
[02:04] <M_Cheevy> stef: I rarely throw out easy questions ;)
[02:04] <Toba> uhwhat?
[02:04] <Toba> heh
[02:04] <M_Cheevy> stef: is reiserfs still experimental?
[02:04] <Toba> tab mistake I see :P
[02:04] <sethk> M_Cheevy, I strongly recommend against reiser for stability reasons
[02:04] <fr500> !xubuntu
[02:04] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, totally, Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[02:04] <M_Cheevy> sethk: so it is still experimental
[02:04] <sethk> M_Cheevy, I've seen several lost reiser partitions in the last couple of weeks.
[02:04] <Steven__> hello all
[02:04] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: I keep hearing that reiserfs is flaky, but I use it exclusively and have never had a problem with it.
[02:04] <sethk> M_Cheevy, depends on whom you ask
[02:05] <M_Cheevy> sethl: thanks for the heads up.. experience counts
[02:05] <aTypical> Thanks,  mustard5.
[02:05] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: I wouldn't recomment reiser4 - that's still experimental, but reiserfs itself seems fine to me
[02:05] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: bugger.. okay... one for, one against... ;)
[02:05] <mcphail> sethk: if you're using RAID0, i assume the data isn't critical anyway?
[02:05] <mcphail> sorry M_Cheevy
[02:05] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: that's for the clarification...
[02:05] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: ext3 apparently has better journaling.  if you're not too worried about speed and space efficiency, go for ext3
[02:06] <Steven__> Can someone tell me how to repair the boot loader? from the cd 5.10
[02:06] <mustard5> aTypical, I can only find web pages..I've just browsed over the online help and I can't find any download options in those formats
[02:06] <M_Cheevy> mcphail: have my archives backed up to an old PATA hd... I sync it about every month
[02:06] <sethk> mcphail, no, hardware RAID just promises that what you told it to store is stored.  If reiser tells it to store the wrong thing, then it very reliably stores the wrong thing
[02:06] <stef65> M_Cheevy: just google for it, there's lots of benchmarking and comparisons out there...
[02:06] <aTypical> mustard5, I didn't see any either so I figured I'd see if anyone had created something.  Thank you for looking, though.
[02:06] <sethk> mcphail, so RAID doesn't insulate you against file system instability
[02:06] <mustard5> aTypical, np
[02:06] <M_Cheevy> stef: that's what got me down to the three I asked about ;)
[02:07] <mcphail> sethk: yes, but is reiser more of a risk than RAID0?
[02:07] <M_Cheevy> sethk: RAID0 doesn't
[02:07] <stef65> sethk: raid-0 even worsens it... never go raid 0 w/o backups
[02:07] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: the thing with ext3 is that it uses exactly the same filesystem structures as ext2, which is old and rock solid.  It just adds a journal.
[02:07] <sethk> stef65, true
[02:07] <M_Cheevy> stef: that's why god made Ghost ;)
[02:07] <sethk> mcphail, different types of risk.  I really don't have enough data to quantify the risk
[02:07] <sethk> M_Cheevy, with linux you don't need ghost.  you have an operating system.
[02:07] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: yes, but it's a dog performance wise...
[02:07] <sethk> M_Cheevy, dd will make image backups for you.
[02:08] <M_Cheevy> sethk: I always image my drives... especially the winblows ones.. saves a hell of a lot of time
[02:08] <sethk> M_Cheevy, I do as well.
[02:08] <stef65> M_Cheevy: no, u misunderstood something there.... this was just the yellow danger...
[02:08] <sethk> mcphail, rsync is also a good tool
[02:08] <M_Cheevy> sethk: I like the one-stop-shop nature of ghost
[02:09] <sethk> M_Cheevy, I backup all partition types from linux.  it makes absolutely no difference what format the data happens to be in.
[02:09] <Steven__> Can someone tell me how to repair the boot loader? from the cd 5.10
[02:09] <sethk> M_Cheevy, so dd here is much more general than ghost
[02:09] <sethk> Steven__, you can run the grub utility, if your config file is correct
[02:09] <sethk> Steven__, what happened?
[02:10] <M_Cheevy> sethk: I know, I've been playing with linux for over 10yrs, but I have my reasons for liking ghost.. mostly the one floppy solution and the portability
[02:10] <mcphail> dd backups can take a long time
[02:10] <stef65> Steven__: get a console with 'gksu gnome-terminal' and issue 'grub' ...
[02:10] <sethk> M_Cheevy, the point is, you have a bootable cd (or floppy if you prefer), so ghost is in no way more portable.  It is less portable.
[02:10] <M_Cheevy> sethk: granted with usb drives that's less of an issue but... I'm an old dog and have my favourite bowl and blanket as it were ;)
[02:10] <sethk> M_Cheevy, that's fine, but it isn't more portable.
[02:11] <Steven__> stef65, I daul boot this laptop and had to reload windows fin bill G
[02:11] <bob_> /boot/grub/menu.lst    file lines preceeded with either # or ##     is ## a comment and # an executable line?
[02:11] <M_Cheevy> seth: I was just admitting my argument was a bit spurious
[02:11] <sethk> bob_, no, anything with # at the beginning is a comment
[02:11] <sethk> bob_, doesn't matter how many #
[02:11] <bob_> what lang is that?   perl?
[02:11] <stef65> Steven__: Then U need a boot-disk / CD with grub on it and boot from there
[02:11] <sethk> bob_, no, grub has its own configuration syntax
[02:12] <aaron_> hi everyone
[02:12] <bob_> sounds like a grubby solution    lol
[02:12] <M_Cheevy> so reiserfs is okay, reiser4 is not as okay?
[02:12] <sethk> Steven__, boot a rescue cd or the first install cd, get a shell, run the grub utility
[02:12] <Kyral> ReiserFS is good
[02:12] <aaron_> does any one know how to log onto the schooltool thing?
[02:12] <sethk> M_Cheevy, at this point I would wait until the latest reiser problems shake out.
[02:12] <Mabus06> Can someone reccomend to me a card I could get for about 200 bucks that would work well with linux?
[02:12] <aaron_> I tried the default log in n ame
[02:12] <sethk> M_Cheevy, reiser 4 was supposed to be the fix.
[02:12] <aaron_> but it wouldn't work
[02:12] <zenwhen> I use reiserFS and have never had issues with it
[02:12] <Mabus06> Video card that is of ocurse
[02:12] <sethk> M_Cheevy, and it is apparently better, but there are still problems.
[02:13] <aaron_> eh?
[02:13] <Steven__> ok off the cd what or how do I get to the grub utility?
[02:13] <M_Cheevy> sethk: okay, that narrows it down to jfs and xfs... and that appears to be an issue of average file sizes...
[02:13] <aaron_> the grub comes with the installation cd
[02:13] <sethk> Steven__, once you get a shell, it is usually in /sbin.  but just typing grub, it should be in the path and come up
[02:13] <M_Cheevy> aaron: too bad dmraid don't ;)
[02:13] <C_J_Pro> non-debian question (only place I can get decent support on GNOME):
[02:13] <Steven__> ok
[02:13] <C_J_Pro> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
[02:13] <C_J_Pro> erm
[02:13] <C_J_Pro> wait
[02:13] <aaron_> but does any one know how to get the log in for schooltool
[02:13] <sethk> Steven__, once you get the grub prompt, you need to enter a couple of commands.  You need to know your partition layout.
[02:13] <aaron_> ?
[02:13] <C_J_Pro> wrong thing
[02:13] <C_J_Pro> When I run # gnome-session, both nautilus and gnome-panel crash when gnome loads.  Gnome-panel then keeps reloading and crashing
[02:14] <C_J_Pro> there
[02:14] <aaron_> any one?
[02:14] <aaron_> does any one know?
[02:14] <Steven__> shit I will just re-install it that only takes 20min
[02:14] <aaron_> eh?
[02:14] <mcphail> C_J_Pro: i think it is because your 'enter' key is jammed down ;p
[02:14] <aaron_> no?
[02:15] <Steven__> thanks everyone
[02:15] <stef65> Steven__: better invest this twenty minutes in reading the grub-docs
[02:15] <aaron_> does any one know?
[02:15] <aaron_> ?
[02:15] <aaron_> ?
[02:15] <aaron_> ?
[02:15] <trappist> aaron_: if anyone does know, he has probably decided to forget since you started spamming the channel
[02:15] <M_Cheevy> well, off I go to blow away the two weeks work it took to get debian installed.... here we go for ubuntu... shouldn't take as long (better online docs --hooray for wiki!)
[02:16] <frogzoo> aaron_: C_J_Pro please don't spam - people have to share this channel
[02:16] <aaron_> alright
[02:16] <aaron_> well
[02:16] <aaron_> no one knows
[02:16] <aaron_> thanks anyways
[02:16] <nickrude> !enter
[02:16] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:16] <sethk> M_Cheevy, I find ubuntu much more manageable for most situations.  Only on developer machines do I sometimes use debian itself.
[02:16] <trappist> I don't suppose anyone HAPPENS to know whether ubuntu's install kernel has "boot offboard chipsets first" support
[02:16] <aaron_> o
[02:16] <aaron_> k
[02:16] <aaron_> haha
[02:16] <nickrude> ;)
[02:16] <sethk> trappist, I believe it does.  let me check.
[02:17] <bulio> www.audioscrobbler.com
[02:17] <bulio> how do I install XMMS plugin for it?
[02:17] <M_Cheevy> sethk: that's what I've been gathering... since I get paid to do my developing in winblows.. I'm happy to use linux as a hobby OS
[02:17] <trappist> sethk: I ask because when install kernels do that I have to boot with ide=reverse or I have a bad day
[02:17] <DPadclear> Anyone know how to set GNOME so that new windows don't appear over the current one?
[02:17] <frogzoo> M_Cheevy: u need vmware :)
[02:17] <sethk> trappist, asus mobo?
[02:18] <trappist> sethk: no, soyo
[02:18] <bulio> www.audioscrobbler.com
[02:18] <bulio> how do I install XMMS plugin for it?
[02:18] <M_Cheevy> frogzoo: nah, prefer them to run native mode... vm's are still virtual... and not 100% native.. would you try to tweak the nv server for X in a VM??
[02:19] <nickrude> bulio, according to apt-cache search, it's in xmms-scrobbler
[02:19] <bulio> so apt-get install xmms-scrobbler?
[02:19] <[yoshi] > what prog plays dvd?
[02:19] <nickrude> bulio, yes
[02:19] <bulio> how do I search for these?
[02:19] <sethk> trappist, IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE is set to n, which I believe means that the secondary ide will not be used.  But I'll have to double check that I have the correct config parameter
[02:19] <DPadclear> [yoshi] : vlc, totem, mplayer, xine...
[02:19] <nickrude> [yoshi] , mplayer, xine-ui, totem-xine and vlc ...
[02:19] <Mabus06> Can anyone please reccomend to me a really good gaming video card that uses PCI and not PCI-E or AGP?
[02:20] <[yoshi] > ok cool.
[02:20] <[yoshi] > thnx
[02:20] <mike> mike@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ sudo gedit sources.list
[02:20] <mike> (gedit:8270): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:20] <mike> why?
[02:20] <nickrude> [yoshi] , the first three need the w32codecs, take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for getting them
[02:20] <M_Cheevy> frogzoo: when all is said and done I'll have a quad boot... win2k adv srv for most of my work, win2k3 SBS to mirror my job environment, xp for games, and ubuntu because I just can't get off the linux jones...
[02:20] <bulio> how do I change xmms skin?
[02:20] <nickrude> bulio, apt-cache search scrobbler is what I used
[02:20] <DPadclear> bulio: ALT-S.
[02:21] <sethk> trappist, no, it is BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD, and it is disabled in the install kernel
[02:21] <trappist> sethk: thanks, I can't seem to identify the parameter
[02:21] <[yoshi] > thnx
[02:21] <trappist> err
[02:21] <trappist> sethk: thanks!
[02:21] <M_Cheevy> well... byebye debian, hello ubuntu
[02:21] <bulio> I have no skins
[02:22] <sethk> trappist, I have trouble remembering that one, which is strange.  OFFBOARD shouldn't be hard to remember.  :)
[02:22] <everton137> Hi, did someone use gnokii here for mobiles? Im using it, I configured but device /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:22] <everton137>  wasn't created. Any tips?
[02:22] <DPadclear> bulio: Install the skins in ~/.xmms/Skins
[02:22] <nickrude> http://www.xmms.org/skins.php <-- bulio
[02:22] <bulio> k
[02:22] <mike> mike@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ sudo gedit sources.list
[02:22] <mike> (gedit:8270): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:22] <bor> SWAT: oops, got it working (I used 'f' for holding the filename, but used 'x' as the variable in the iteration)?  if not, it may be reasonable to place the encoded mp3s for the player into a separate directory:  mkdir /path/to/new_dir ; cd /path/to/dir-with-mp3s ; for f in *.mp3; do lame -b 192 "$f" "/path/to/new_dir/$f"; done
[02:22] <mike> sorry to seem spammy, but why?
[02:22] <bulio> thanks guys
[02:23] <nickrude> mike, it still ran gedit, right?
[02:23] <mike> nope
[02:23] <sethk> mike, X not running?  running gedit as a user other than the user that started X?
[02:23] <mcphail> mike: try sudo gedit sources.list --display=:0
[02:23] <BieZt> k mensen ^^ de ubern44b is terug ;)
[02:24] <BieZt> een vraag over live bookmarks van firefox :
[02:24] <bor> SWAT: and sorry, you should use -b 128 of course :)
[02:24] <BieZt> kan iedere rss feed daardoor gezien worden ?
[02:24] <sethk> mike, DISPLAY not set ... just so mcphail thinking the same thing
[02:24] <sethk> s/so/saw/   uggg
[02:24] <fr500> mcphail, press alt f2, that'll give you a run dialog, then type gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[02:24] <BieZt> en hoe add ik de rss-feed van de comments van mijn wordpress blog ? http://biezt.orions-stuff.com ?
[02:24] <mike> awesome, thanks guys
[02:24] <TheAttacks> it's obvious ubuntu is popular when there are so many people in the IRC haha
[02:24] <nickrude> !nl
[02:24] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:24] <fr500> mcphail, that does it in one whole step
[02:25] <nickrude> I think :)
[02:25] <BieZt> oops wrong chan ... supposed to be in -nl :(
[02:25] <[yoshi] > anyone know anything about acidrip?
[02:25] <calc> TheAttacks: maybe the only people who use ubuntu are also in this channel? ;)
[02:25] <[yoshi] > like how to use it
[02:26] <TheAttacks> yeah, i know
[02:26] <[yoshi] > i load then what?
[02:26] <[yoshi] > whats a good width and height
[02:26] <[yoshi] > ?
[02:27] <sethk> [yoshi] , 9 feet by 12 feet
[02:27] <[yoshi] > lol yea sure thing
[02:27] <sethk> [yoshi] , 2 miles by 4 miles?
[02:28] <[yoshi] > yo the attacks can you give me some pointerS?
[02:29] <sethk> [yoshi] , I guess nobody here knows at the moment.
[02:29] <Nytryx> ok how do i acces a shared file on a windows box from ubuntu?
[02:29] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks!
[02:29] <sethk> Nytryx, step one if you haven't already is to install samba and co
[02:29] <viscount> can anyone help, im trying to touch a file for a backup script `touch backup_$(date +%D)` but it fails with "touch: cannot touch `backup_12/14/05': No such file or directory"
[02:29] <[yoshi] > great he left
[02:29] <Nytryx> samba yes co no
[02:29] <sethk> viscount, you can't use slashes in filenames
[02:29] <Nytryx> co?
[02:29] <Nytryx> sethk
[02:29] <sethk> Nytryx, smbfs, associated utilities.
[02:29] <sethk> Nytryx, probably installed as a dependency
[02:29] <viscount> sethk, omg, i knew that!
[02:30] <viscount> sethk, thx man :)
[02:30] <Phoenix1701> I'm in the process of downloading Kubuntu, because I find KDE's GUI to be somewhat superior to Gnome's.  However, there are programs that I want to run that require GTK2+; am I in trouble here, or does Kubuntu come with GTK?
[02:30] <Nytryx> ok so if i installed samba than i got it
[02:30] <Nytryx> no?
[02:30] <Squee-D> my format during install is taking forever. parted server is still running and when i tail /var/log/partman i see OUT: 23 writing per-group metadata
[02:30] <sethk> Nytryx, should be, yes
[02:30] <Kyral> Phoenix1701: if it's needed it will be installed
[02:30] <sethk> Nytryx, I do it from the command line with mount -t smbfs
[02:30] <sethk> Nytryx, there are GUI tools also, I believe.
[02:30] <Phoenix1701> Kyral: Ah, okay.  So first time I try to install a Gnomish package, I'll get...  just GTK, or the entirety of Gnome?
[02:31] <Kyral> Phoenix1701: just what it needed
[02:31] <sethk> Phoenix1701, as much as is necessary for what you are installing
[02:31] <Nytryx> ok what are the gui tools
[02:31] <Squee-D> why would creating an ext3 FS take so long?
[02:31] <viscount> sethk, touch backup_$(date +%F) now that works, cool
[02:31] <Phoenix1701> Awesome.  :)  This is raising my expectations, you know...  Ubuntu is beginning to look like Linux that actually works.
[02:31] <deluxe___> anybody tried ubuntu a voodoo envy a:538
[02:31] <sethk> Nytryx, there is shared folders on the system/administration menu
[02:32] <Phoenix1701> I've never seen the word "aesthetics" on a Linux news page before.
[02:32] <Kuyaedz> Squee-D: I've had installations kinda 'freeze' during that part of the installation.  Have you tried again after a rebot?
[02:32] <Nytryx> thank you
[02:32] <natex> Squee-D, is it checking for bad blocks?
[02:32] <frogzoo> Squee-D: how long is too long? 10mins for 200gb is not unheard of
[02:32] <Squee-D> frogzoo 40 minutes for <80 ?
[02:33] <frogzoo> Squee-D: k, mebbe you have a problem - check cables for starters
[02:33] <Kuyaedz> can someone point me to some reading for setting up ubuntu-server as a central box for a windows Lan?
[02:33] <Squee-D> Kuyaedz im one of those reboot as a last option people
[02:33] <Squee-D> natex how can one tell if its scanning while mk'in ?
[02:33] <Kuyaedz> Squee-D: of course, I agree.
[02:33] <frogzoo> Kuyaedz: -> samba.org
[02:34] <Squee-D> frogzoo yeah im concerned that its an issue with the hpt chip (as mentioned earlier, im not using raid, just standard ide channel)
[02:35] <natex> Squee-D, not sure. but you could make the fs before the installer tries.
[02:35] <Squee-D> natex i may do that
[02:35] <Nytryx> ok so thats not it it lets me share my files not view shared ones on the other computer
[02:35] <natex> Squee-D, then during install, don't have the install program format the drive
[02:35] <Nytryx> how do i get to the shares on another system
[02:35] <Squee-D> yeah not a bad plan
[02:36] <natex> Squee-D, you know how to use mkfs.ext3 to make the fs?
[02:36] <Squee-D> yah
[02:37] <Squee-D> i've done LFS and Gentoo several times
[02:37] <Squee-D> most things im pretty adept at rtfm or use-your-brain
[02:37] <natex> great. Ubuntu is much less hassle :)
[02:38] <logical_mark> Hey I need a filesystem to use that will give me the ability to read/write from linux and windows as well as store files larger than 4 gb
[02:38] <Squee-D> I need a million dollars.
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> logical_mark: Does Fat32 have a file size limit?
[02:38] <Squee-D> :)
[02:38] <natex> logical_mark, vfat?
[02:39] <Kzar_fr> Squee-D, do you deserve it ?
[02:39] <Squee-D> Kzar_fr oh absolutely
[02:39] <God> Right.
[02:39] <logical_mark> tonyyarusso: yeah it is 4gb
[02:39] <Squee-D> just on sheer sexyness alone.
[02:39] <logical_mark> natex: I dont know what vfat is
[02:39] <viscount> How do you wrap a line in bash, \ doesnt seem to work
[02:39] <natex> Hey God, how about a new lappy for christmas?
[02:39] <stef65> logical_mark: no easy way... ntfs with captive, or ext2 withe windows ext2-fsd...
[02:40] <God> natex, hey, what Christmas has to do with me ?
[02:40] <natex> logical_mark, vfat is fat32, sorry.
[02:40] <viscount> God, indeed
[02:40] <natex> God, I thought you were Jesus's dad.
[02:40] <logical_mark> natex: I thought vfat had a filesize limit of 4 gb
[02:40] <God> vfat is too fat for an healty hard drive
[02:41] <natex> logical_mark, you are right.
[02:41] <stef65> vfat has indeed the 4GB limit
[02:41] <God> natex, wtf ? I have no son. As long as Mary still virgin.
[02:41] <logical_mark> natex: well, I hate to have to install something on either machine. I would like for them to read nativly,
[02:42] <natex> logical_mark, too bad windows can't play nice with others.
[02:42] <Squee-D> 2 machines?
[02:42] <Squee-D> use samba
[02:42] <frogzoo> logical_mark: send Bill a letter, asking him to kindly release the spec for NTFS
[02:42] <natex> God, reminds me of an Eddie Izzard bit.
[02:43] <logical_mark> frogzoo: I wanted to but am afraid that after buying windows pro I can't afford the stamp. And an email is in unprofessional for such a request :-(
[02:43] <Hentai^XP> ex2FS
[02:44] <Hentai^XP> or ex3fs
[02:44] <Hentai^XP> get the ifs driver for windows
[02:44] <viscount> I cant seem to find any line continuation marker for sh, i have a really long command and I'd rather be able to read it in a glance
[02:44] <Squee-D> so why not reiser for / in ubuntu?
[02:44] <sethk> viscount, backslash?
[02:44] <Hentai^XP> logical_mark: got that?
[02:44] <viscount> sethk, it didnt seem to be working
[02:44] <sethk> viscount, works here.  how are you using it?
[02:45] <viscount> sethk, hmm.. let me try some more
[02:45] <surfdue> is there a good iso burning software?
[02:45] <surfdue> gui :)
[02:45] <sethk> viscount, I always put a space before the backslash
[02:45] <[help> ok in the terminal how do i navigate to something
[02:45] <viscount> surfdue, k3b is pretty nice
[02:45] <logical_mark> Hentai^xp: Sorry I jsut saw it. I rely to much on nick highliting
[02:45] <surfdue> k
[02:45] <Hentai^XP> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:45] <surfdue> thanks
[02:45] <sethk> surfdue, k3b
[02:46] <Hentai^XP> logical_mark: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:46] <Hentai^XP> there
[02:46] <Nytryx> ok why do i have to transfer file from one computer to another to use them via the network?
[02:46] <Hentai^XP> use extfs
[02:46] <logical_mark> Hentai^xp: So I create a partition, ext3, and then windows will req it with that driver?
[02:46] <Hentai^XP> use ext3fs
[02:46] <natex> surfdue, graveman is a good one for gnome.
[02:46] <Hentai^XP> logical_mark: than you can mount it in windows with that driver and have read\write abilites
[02:46] <Hentai^XP> logical_mark: and have files over 4gigs
[02:47] <logical_mark> Hentai^xp: what is the limit with ext3fs?
[02:47] <sethk> Nytryx, for simple transfers I install cygwin in windows and use sftp
[02:47] <[help> i am here  A directory called install_flash_player_7_linux is created. Navigate to this directory.
[02:47] <aTypical> Is there a bot in this channel?  If so, what kind?
[02:47] <[help> how do i navigate?
[02:47] <surfdue> hey i am running a game in wine, except some of the games dll have caps in them, and the game calls them with no caps
[02:47] <sethk> Nytryx, it's CLI, but works straight out of the box
[02:47] <Hentai^XP> logical_mark: no idea
[02:47] <surfdue> how can i make caps not count on start of the game in wine?
[02:47] <logical_mark> Hentai^xp: thanks for the help
[02:47] <Nytryx> no not a transfer i want to use the file localy via the network
[02:48] <Squee-D> Nytryx i notice that sometimes with files launched from a samba share
[02:48] <aTypical> [help, either open a terminal window or open your home and then double click the flash folder.
[02:48] <_jason> surfdue, if you can't get an answer I would just rename all of your dll's to lowercase
[02:48] <Squee-D> only in the case of a windows executable tho
[02:48] <surfdue> k
[02:48] <[help> can some one help me?
[02:48] <[help>  A directory called install_flash_player_7_linux is created. Navigate to this directory.
[02:48] <Hentai^XP> logical_mark: either that or use NTFS and only get read support in linux based OSes\well limited write support
[02:48] <[help> how do i nav there
[02:48] <aTypical> [help, I just did
[02:48] <[help> oh
[02:49] <[help> oh i mean in the terminal
[02:49] <aTypical> [help, to where did you extract the flash folder?
[02:49] <[help> homw
[02:49] <[help> home
[02:49] <aTypical> [help, do you have a terminal window open?
[02:49] <[help> yea
[02:49] <JoeyDay|wgu> Will Ubuntu boot up without a keyboard, mouse, and monitor?
[02:49] <[help> yes joey
[02:49] <natex> JoeyDay|wgu, of course.
[02:50] <sethk> Nytryx, you can run NFS on the windows box, or samba on the linux box.  those are the two practical and free options
[02:50] <aTypical> [help, if you type ls it will show the contents of your current directory.  Do you see the flash folder?
[02:50] <sethk> Nytryx, samba is a PITA but it is usually the best available option
[02:50] <[help> yea
[02:50] <[help> and other folders
[02:50] <JoeyDay|wgu> natex: Hm...
[02:50] <[help> but i need to be in that one right?
[02:50] <aTypical> type cd <the name of your flash directory>
[02:50] <[help> ah
[02:51] <aTypical> [help, not really.  I think you can run the file from outside.
[02:51] <JoeyDay|wgu> natex: Would it have a problem booting under different network conditions than where it was installed?
[02:51] <Squee-D> samba rocks imho. the only problem with samba is it has to emulate netbios :P
[02:51] <[help> forgot the one
[02:51] <[help> cd ls
[02:51] <JoeyDay|wgu> I guess I should quit asking questions and explain the situation.
[02:51] <[help> im on a roll
[02:51] <[help> <,,-noob
[02:51] <aTypical> [help, so were we all at one point. :-)
[02:52] <JoeyDay|wgu> I installed Ubuntu on a computer while I was at work last night. I work in an IT Helpdesk and we have stations set up with monitor, keyboard and mouse and it makes it real easy to just hook up a tower and go to work.
[02:52] <[help> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[02:52] <[help>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[02:52] <[help> :(
[02:52] <Squee-D> i was born with a silver cpu in my mouth
[02:52] <D1> !java
[02:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:52] <JoeyDay|wgu> Anyway, I got everything working so I could ssh into the box and then I shut it down and brought it home.
[02:52] <D1> !javadebs
[02:52] <ubotu> I guess javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[02:52] <aTypical> [help, bummer.  Still I'll bet someone has created a 64bit version of the flash player.  I'd suggest googling for it.
[02:52] <[help> what do i do now?
[02:52] <[help> roger
[02:52] <[help> bbl
[02:52] <JoeyDay|wgu> I don't have a monitor, keyboard, or mouse at home (I just use my laptop here), but I figured it should work to just plug it in and then ssh into it.
[02:52] <Squee-D> aTypical i doubt it, it is closed source and its MM proprietry.
[02:53] <JoeyDay|wgu> But it won't accept the connection now.
[02:53] <logical_mark> Hey has anyone in here a suggestion for an FTP Client with a nice frontend
[02:53] <silverton> where can I get w32codecs?
[02:53] <Squee-D> if MM dont have a 64bit version you're prolly screwed :/
[02:53] <natex> JoeyDay|wgu, the network is not configured properly
[02:53] <aTypical> [help, with what Squee-D said I think you're out of luck. :-)
[02:53] <ElitePete> silverton, sudo apt-get install w32codecs ?
[02:53] <JoeyDay|wgu> And when I hit the power button it just shuts straight down. Before, from within Ubuntu, it was doing a graceful shut down (>30 seconds) when I hit the power button.
[02:53] <mustard5> !w32codecs
[02:54] <JoeyDay|wgu> So because it's powering down so quickly I'm assuming it's not getting past a certain point in the bootup.
[02:54] <aTypical> mustard5, you don't like the w32codecs?
[02:54] <[help> Due to this, there is an ever expanding population of people, who instead of seeing Macromedia customer's content, are seeing nothing but broken plugin boxes.
[02:54] <silverton> ElitePete, maybe?  I did a search for w32, but it didn't return it
[02:54] <[help> lol
[02:54] <mustard5> ubotu: tell silverton about w32codecs
[02:54] <Squee-D> [help doesnt matter now, its all Adobe anyway
[02:54] <Squee-D> They can rot in hell :(
[02:54] <mustard5> aTypical, no..I was getting a PM from ubotu :)
[02:54] <[help> oh
[02:54] <aTypical> oh.
[02:54] <rustyBOFH> hi folks
[02:54] <JoeyDay|wgu> natex: So how do I fix how the network is set up? Will I need to hook up a monitor here to troubleshoot this, or is it something I can troubleshoot back at work?
[02:54] <cyphase> does anyone know the best 3D card for linux?
[02:55] <aTypical> Squee-D, that just takes too much darn time to do.
[02:55] <viscount> cyphase, you mean specific card, or brand of cards
[02:55] <cyphase> with a decent price (not $1,000)
[02:55] <cyphase> viscount, either
[02:55] <mustard5> silverton, did you get a PM from ubotu?
[02:56] <silverton> mustard5, eys
[02:56] <The_Baker> JoeyDAy|wqu: does it beep on boot?  some computers require a keyboard to be attached to POST.
[02:56] <silverton> er, yes
[02:56] <mustard5> silverton, k
[02:56] <aTypical> mustard5, what kind of bot is ubotu?
[02:56] <JoeyDay|wgu> The_Baker: That's exactly what I thought. I brought a keyboard and mouse home from work to try that, and it's still not working.
[02:56] <viscount> cyphase, nvidia works very well for a brand, for a specific card i use a FX5500 and it works well enough for me
[02:56] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me how to set it so opera doesn't cancel my downloads when i navigate away from the page
[02:56] <cyphase> oh..
[02:56] <sethk> JoeyDay|wgu, in the same direction, newer machines have a BIOS option saying whether to halt on error
[02:56] <cyphase> i know nVidia..
[02:56] <cyphase> i thought you meant a brand of nVidia card
[02:56] <JoeyDay|wgu> I guess I should've brought a monitor. That would've been the smart thing to do.
[02:56] <sethk> JoeyDay|wgu, some have stop, stop except keyboard, and ignore all
[02:56] <mustard5> aTypical, a blootbot I think he is called
[02:57] <The_Baker> JoeyDay:wgu:  i also had an old nvidia card that required a monitor to be attached to boot.  firmware upgrade fixed that.
[02:57] <aTypical> ElitePete, I've never heard of opera doing that.
[02:57] <cyphase> viscount, and 3D works well?
[02:57] <aTypical> mustard5, thanks.
[02:57] <ElitePete> atypical it does..
[02:57] <JoeyDay|wgu> The_Baker: I've got an nvidia card too. Riva TNT.
[02:57] <viscount> cyphase, yep, nvidia cards work well for 3d
[02:57] <JoeyDay|wgu> The_Baker: I wonder if that's the problem.
[02:57] <cyphase> not all of them
[02:58] <cyphase> mine for instance
[02:58] <The_Baker> JoeyDay:wgu:  it was either that or a TNT.  i forget.
[02:58] <The_Baker> doh!
[02:58] <cyphase> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[02:58] <cyphase> mine works at first..
[02:58] <cyphase> prefectly..
[02:59] <Nytryx> whats the key to force quit a program
[02:59] <cyphase> viscount, but about 15-25 minutes after boot, it freezes
[02:59] <viscount> Nytryx, ctrl-c
[02:59] <The_Baker> JoeyDay|wgu:  think it was the TNT.  you have another card laying around?  maybe onboard video?
[02:59] <Nytryx> not working!
[02:59] <Nytryx> ahhh reset button!
[03:00] <_jason> Nytryx, ?
[03:00] <freakazoid3333> cyphase have u checked to make sure the heat and fan are secure
[03:00] <freakazoid3333> heatsink
[03:00] <viscount> Nytryx, or if you are trying to kill a gui, go ctrl-F2 then type 'xkill' then click the gui to kill it
[03:00] <Ober> anyway to get amorak to play mp3s? i installed the one from the universal repot but still has no player for it. and forums did not help much
[03:00] <JoeyDay|wgu> Aha, I hadn't plugged the keyboard into the right port...
[03:01] <JoeyDay|wgu> I had plugged it in without looking at the back.
[03:01] <JoeyDay|wgu> I guess that's what I get...
[03:01] <The_Baker> joeyday:wgu:  that could to it too :)
[03:01] <JoeyDay|wgu> Trying to boot again, we'll see if it works this time.
[03:01] <sethk> JoeyDay|wgu, dumb machine.  it should have known what you meant.
[03:01] <JoeyDay|wgu> It still beeped.
[03:01] <[help> :'(
[03:01] <JoeyDay|wgu> Does it always beep, or does that indicate an error?
[03:02] <freakazoid3333> single beep is normal
[03:02] <n0dl> does anyone here know a good samba tutorial?
[03:02] <sethk> JoeyDay|wgu, depends on the BIOS, most have a single beep
[03:02] <The_Baker> joeyday:wgu:  one beep is generally good.  might depend on your motherboard tho.
[03:02] <n0dl> im looking to start a samba printer server for my school's computer club
[03:02] <JoeyDay|wgu> That's what I thought.
[03:02] <freakazoid3333> its when u hear a series of beepa you've got problems
[03:03] <Nytryx> ok whats the fastest OS I can put on a system with 224mhz?
[03:03] <natex> n0dl, if you're willing to pay about 20 bucks. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/
[03:03] <freakazoid3333> beeps
[03:03] <ElitePete> Nyryx maybe dsl?
[03:03] <can-o-worms> does anyone know anything about udev? i need to add permissions for directfb's fusion devices but the file's format seems completely different from the line in the fusion README
[03:03] <freakazoid3333> damn small linux?
[03:03] <ElitePete> yes
[03:03] <n0dl> natrex: thanks ill keep that book in mind
[03:03] <[help> c ya
[03:04] <natex> n0dl, actually you can read alot of it for free at the link I gave you
[03:04] <Nytryx> i liked that come to think about it freakazoid3333
[03:04] <gpm> hi. i need to reinstall a kernel (because of a yaird bug) and i can't really boot into my system until i do. however, if i try running a livecd and chrooting and installing the kernel that way, it won't let me. anyone have a clue as to what i might do?
[03:04] <natex> gpm, what do you mean "it won't let me"?
[03:04] <linkd> cd /home/linkd
[03:05] <Nytryx> ok kubuntu up and running on the 500mhz how do i get the kubunut boot screen?
[03:05] <linkd> oops
[03:05] <linkd> too many windows
[03:05] <The_Baker> joeyday:wgu:  are you familiar with ethereal?  if it is booting, you might be able to capture some network traffic as the card initializes.  that could help give an idea how far it is booting up.
[03:06] <gpm> natex, yaird complains it can't open /proc/bus/input/devices
[03:06] <gpm> natex, therefore, no initrd...no go
[03:06] <JoeyDay|wgu> I'm in.
[03:06] <JoeyDay|wgu> Hm...
[03:06] <The_Baker> cool.
[03:07] <JoeyDay|wgu> I had to ssh in using the local network IP address.
[03:07] <JoeyDay|wgu> That's not what I wanted.
[03:07] <JoeyDay|wgu> I set this thing up with a dyndns address.
[03:07] <JoeyDay|wgu> So I could shell into it from anywhere using the address, not the local IP.
[03:07] <JoeyDay|wgu> So it's not updating for some reason,
[03:07] <JoeyDay|wgu> Oh well, I'm in now so I can troubleshoot that.
[03:08] <mike_> I'm a rookie and would like to upgrade firefox to 1.5.
[03:08] <Nytryx> when upgrading to kde 3.5 i get a depenice error that one of the packages could not be installed why?
[03:08] <nickrude> !firefox1.5
[03:08] <ubotu> nickrude: Are you smoking crack?
[03:08] <natex> gpm, you need to mount (to /mnt)the partition to be chrooted, 'mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[03:08] <mike_> yes, nick
[03:08] <JoeyDay|wgu> Can anyone recommend a good dyndns updater client?
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> nickrude: Try !firefox15
[03:08] <benplaut> flight 2!
[03:08] <benplaut> w00t!
[03:08] <mike_> it doesn't seem to be on the ubuntu servers
[03:08] <nickrude> !firefox15
[03:08] <ubotu> firefox15 is, like, see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[03:08] <JoeyDay|wgu> Apparently the one I have is either not configured properly or simply doesn't work.
[03:09] <sethk> Nytryx, a depenice error?  hey, this is a family channel.  :)
[03:09] <JoeyDay|wgu> Will that give me the actuall Firefox logo?
[03:09] <nickrude> I wish those factoids were a little more stable
[03:09] <Nytryx> what lol
[03:09] <sethk> Nytryx, which package?
[03:09] <JoeyDay|wgu> I'm assuming Ubuntu has to use the generic looking globe thing because it's a custom build?
[03:09] <Nytryx> hang on ill tell you
[03:09] <sethk> Nytryx, there are some old packages that conflict with the current ones
[03:09] <nickrude> JoeyDay|wgu, yes, and yes
[03:09] <sethk> Nytryx, so you just deselect the obsolete package and that should go away
[03:09] <natex> gpm, also, before mounting proc, mount devfs 'mount -t devfs devfs /mnt/dev
[03:09] <Nytryx> humm so deselect to one thats giving me the error
[03:10] <Nytryx> ok ill try that
[03:10] <Schuyler> hey folks, has anyone tried using SSH port forwarding (ssh -L) with Breezy?
[03:10] <slyjab> when i try to update breezy i get the following error: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:10] <slyjab> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[03:10] <slyjab> can anyone help
[03:10] <Schuyler> it seems to be broken in a way I've never seen on any other Linux.
[03:10] <nalioth> slyjab: use sudo or close all running instances of apt
[03:10] <ardchoille> Is there a site that has a huge list of rss feeds? I need more feeds :)
[03:10] <sethk> Nytryx, turn off the obsolete one.  if the obsolete one appears first in the window, then the correct one will trigger the error
[03:10] <ardchoille> Need Ubuntu rss feeds too
[03:11] <Nytryx> so do what?
[03:11] <gpm> natex, now it complains about /sys/block
[03:11] <slyjab> nalioth ...sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:11] <natex> gpm, which distro?
[03:11] <sethk> Nytryx, usually it will be obvious.  you'll have   xyz   and xyz.1.23
[03:11] <sethk> Nytryx, something of that sort
[03:12] <sethk> Nytryx, usually the one with the version number is older.
[03:12] <bulio> how do I install adblock?
[03:12] <gpm> natex, pure debian. but #debian isn't helping
[03:12] <bulio> whats it called
[03:12] <gpm> :-(
[03:12] <Nytryx> humm ok trying
[03:12] <sethk> Nytryx, but that's not a rule so use a bit of intelligence
[03:12] <VictorI> how do you get grub to relist the grub.conf file and set it into the mbr block?
[03:12] <bulio> guys?
[03:12] <JoeyDay|wgu> I'm a total linux n00b. What can I use to edit a file from the command line?
[03:12] <gpm> JoeyDay|wgu, nano
[03:12] <VictorI> vi
[03:12] <bulio> sudo gedit
[03:12] <gpm> JoeyDay|wgu, (or anything)
[03:12] <JoeyDay|wgu> gedit works from a command line?
[03:12] <Nytryx> joeyday|wgu nano
[03:12] <nickrude> bulio, use the one under tools ->extensions->get more extensions from inside firefox
[03:12] <natex> gpm, instead of mounting devfs, try 'mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev'
[03:12] <bulio> k
[03:12] <sethk> gpm, #debian is so much fun. :)  unfortunately for repository/package specific stuff, they are quite different (ubuntu & debian)
[03:13] <VictorI> vi works great and every unix flavor has it
[03:13] <TraceGreen> hello, who know how to forbid mouse and keyboard event in linux? that's say, forbid user using mouse and keyboard.
[03:13] <VictorI> so how can I relist grub to set a new config into the mbr block?
[03:13] <netcrusher88> how is hfs+ support under ubuntu?
[03:13] <VictorI> netcrusher88: like any other linux kernel..the same
[03:13] <frogzoo> JoeyDay|wgu: emacs is also good
[03:14] <slyjab> nalioth: sudo gives me the same error.... how do i close any running instances of apt
[03:14] <netcrusher88> wow, that helps, like, r/w? better than ntfs?
[03:14] <johnnybezak> hey guys is there a /proc entry that will tell me what motherboard i have
[03:14] <gpm> natex, ok...now what?
[03:14] <Nytryx> ok i get could not mark all packages for insatllation or upgrade kdesdk is not going to be installed
[03:14] <nickrude> VictorI, if you're satisfied thay your  menu.lst is good, sudo grub-install writes the mbr
[03:14] <Phoenix1701> slyjab: sudp killall apt* ought to do it...
[03:14] <natex> gpm, 'mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc'
[03:14] <Phoenix1701> s/sudp/sudo/
[03:15] <cold> Can limewire be apt-get?
[03:15] <sethk> VictorI, back up your /boot directory first
[03:15] <natex> gpm, chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[03:15] <nickrude> cold, no, it's not in the repositories
[03:15] <cold> k
[03:15] <Schuyler> anyone got SSH port forwarding working in Ubuntu?
[03:15] <nalioth> slyjab: look at all your windows and close any apt-get, synaptic, kynaptic, adept, etc
[03:15] <JoeyDay|wgu> You guys have been great help!
[03:15] <JoeyDay|wgu> Thanks.
[03:15] <cold> nickrude, are there any p2p programs in the repository?
[03:16] <nickrude> cold, gtk-gnutella is a decent replacement for limewire, I hear
[03:16] <frogzoo> !tell cold about azureus
[03:16] <JoeyDay|wgu> nano worked to edit my file. There was a problem in the config file for my dyndns update client.
[03:16] <JoeyDay|wgu> It's working now.
[03:16] <slyjab> nalioth: there is nothing open and  sudo killall apt* say no processes killed
[03:16] <cold> ahh thanks
[03:16] <chombee> Hey - I'm having some trouble configuring OpenBox
[03:17] <nalioth> slyjab: in a terminal "ps aux|grep dpkg"
[03:17] <Nytryx> how do i remove all of the old kde
[03:18] <nickrude> Nytryx, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt will get nearly all of it
[03:18] <redvelvet> can someone suggest a bit torrent application?
[03:18] <chombee> My first problem is: I put a bunch of entries in my .xsession file but none of them run when I run openbox, I have set openbox as the default in gdm
[03:18] <slyjab> nalioth:  root      9512  0.0  0.1   2936   744 pts/0    R+   21:17   0:00 grep dpkg, that was the return
[03:18] <Nytryx> all that just to get kde 3.5 and make it look like gnome
[03:19] <Nytryx> nsh im sticking wit gnome
[03:19] <netcrusher88> is hfs+ well-supported?
[03:19] <nickrude> Nytryx, a very good choice, imo :)
[03:19] <skierkegaard> what is a good mp3 encoder?
[03:19] <redvelvet> is there anything like bitcomet for linux?
[03:20] <nalioth> slyjab: in a terminal "ps aux|grep apt"
[03:20] <netcrusher88> skierkegaard: mpg123, at least for commandline
[03:20] <nickrude> skierkegaard, you can use soundjuicer, but you'll need to do the steps at the end of the preferences section of soundjuicers' help
[03:20] <nalioth> netcrusher88: it is, but i wouldn't recommend constant use of a hfs+ partition
[03:20] <skierkegaard> i was trying to use abcde, and it was not liking mp3
[03:21] <nalioth> skierkegaard: use grip and lame
[03:21] <natex> skierkegaard, yes lame.
[03:21] <netcrusher88> nalioth: thanks
[03:21] <skierkegaard> im not familiar with grip and lame
[03:21] <slyjab> nalioth:  are these the instances of apt i have running?
[03:21] <skierkegaard> how do they work?
[03:21] <sethk> Nytryx, I like kde, but if you run kde, then run kde, don't make it look like gnome.  :)
[03:21] <nalioth> slyjab: if you find any, yes.
[03:21] <nickrude> skierkegaard, you may need to install lame for abcde to do mp3's
[03:21] <skierkegaard> ill look it up
[03:21] <redvelvet> does amorak rip to mp3's?
[03:22] <dooglus> redvelvet: not really.  azureus is about the closest
[03:22] <Nytryx> i like things from both sethk so i mix what i like and dont to get it right for me
[03:22] <redvelvet> thanks dooglus
[03:22] <chombee> Anyone here use OpenBox in Breezy ??
[03:22] <cyphase> viscount, you said you have the FX 5500, right?
[03:22] <sethk> Nytryx, that's fine, I just mean that to make kde look exactly like gnome is chasing your tail
[03:22] <dooglus> chombee: I've used fluxbox in the past.  I hear its similar
[03:22] <viscount> cyphase, yes
[03:22] <cyphase> viscount, and it works with 3D?
[03:22] <cyphase> (just making sure :) )
[03:22] <Nytryx> my cat says hi BTW
[03:22] <chombee> dooglus - did you make use of the .xsession file?
[03:23] <viscount> cyphase, yep
[03:23] <redvelvet> dooglus, is azureus something i can find in the refinery?
[03:23] <dooglus> chombee: I don't recall.
[03:23] <skierkegaard> is lame in synaptic?
[03:23] <Nytryx> he hears the beep from the IRC notifications lol
[03:23] <cyphase> viscount, and all you had to do was install the 3D driver?
[03:23] <viscount> cyphase, you need to install the nvidia drivers
[03:23] <slyjab> nalioth:  so what do i do with what i see in terminal now?
[03:23] <dooglus> redvelvet: it's not in the repository.  you can get it from its homepage.  you'll need to install a java vm - package 'blackdown' is what I use
[03:23] <dooglus> !azureus
[03:23] <ubotu> I heard azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:23] <ElitePete> i heard nvidia's drivers for linux are better then the windows ones?
[03:23] <nalioth> slyjab: anything that had grep in the line, disregard. if it has apt in the line, kill that process
[03:23] <redvelvet> thanks again dooglus
[03:24] <viscount> cyphase, you need to install the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel, then nvidia-glx, then run nvidia-glx-config with sudo, then restart xorg
[03:24] <redvelvet> dooglus, where can i get this blackdown package?
[03:25] <dooglus> redvelvet: that's in the repositories
[03:25] <viscount> redvelvet, apt has it
[03:25] <cyphase> viscount, yea..
[03:25] <cyphase> thanx
[03:25] <skierkegaard> is glame, what you all meant when you said i needed lame?
[03:25] <cyphase> i think my card has a hardware problem..
[03:25] <cyphase> but anyway, thanx
[03:25] <eno> are the apt servers down?
[03:25] <benplaut> anyone here on dapper w/ gnome?
[03:25] <nickrude> skierkegaard, no, apt-get install lame ; if it that doesn't work, check out wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:26] <dooglus> redvelvet: my bad.  the package is called "j2re1.4"
[03:26] <onefingertoomany> hi. ok i have a question, (if anyone can help me that is....) so.  i just got a kensington webcam. and i'm a totally such a newbie when it comes to ubuntu (and linux in general)  so can anyone help me find the drivers or be so kind as to walk me through what i need to do.  googling for me didn't help
[03:26] <redvelvet> oh, thanks
[03:26] <skierkegaard> resource temporarily unavailable
[03:26] <eno> onefingertoomany: cool nickname, man
[03:27] <ngmlinux_> I'm having some permissions issues, anyone familiar with Ubuntu?
[03:27] <eno> yeah the apt-get servers aren't working!
[03:27] <onefingertoomany> eno, woman. not man :P
[03:27] <dooglus> eno: archive.ubuntu.com is up
[03:27] <rootpuppet> hi. i have a question. which irc server i can install on ubuntu version 5.10?
[03:27] <eno> oh god!
[03:27] <ngmlinux_> I can't apply patches
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> hello.  I have installed several -dev packages (SDL, tcl), but gcc is unable to find tcl.h or SDL.h, even though they're right there in /usr/include/tcl8.4 and /usr/include/SDL ...   Is there anything extra I should be doing?
[03:27] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: add more -dev pkgs
[03:27] <chombee> I want to launch docker and pypanel automatically when I login to openbox, I put pypanel & and docker & in my .xsession but it didn't do anything. What do I need to do?
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: which ones dude
[03:27] <tiglionabbit> the files I'm including exist, but gcc says it can't find them
[03:28] <tiglionabbit> it finds all the other headers though, for most other things I've installed
[03:28] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: the ones you are missing (i search for '-dev' in synaptic and look for a likely culprit)
[03:28] <ngmlinux_> username@localhost:/usr/src/arm/linux$ sudo zcat ../diff-2.6.12.2-armcore|patch -p1
[03:28] <ngmlinux_> patching file arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-xscale.S
[03:28] <ngmlinux_> patch: **** Can't rename file /tmp/pos1TWoj to arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-xscale.S : Permission denied
[03:28] <redvelvet> dooglus, i got an openoffice.org2 package?
[03:28] <ngmlinux_> anybody?
[03:28] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: please read the /topic and dont paste in here
[03:29] <dooglus> redvelvet: don't we all!
[03:29] <ngmlinux_> i was told you can paste up to 3 lines
[03:29] <ngmlinux_> sorry
[03:29] <slyjab> nalioth: the only apt process i have running is ron.daily/apt... when i try to kill it it says:bash: kill: signal: arguments must be process or job IDs
[03:29] <slyjab> bash: kill: pid: arguments must be process or job IDs
[03:29] <slyjab> bash: kill: ron.daily/apt: arguments must be process or job IDs
[03:29] <ngmlinux_> I didn't know
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: what could it possibly be?  I'm including tcl.h and it's right there in /usr/include/tcl8.4/tcl.h
[03:29] <ngmlinux_> nalioth, can you help with this issue?
[03:29] <redvelvet> dooglus, sorry, i mean that is what poped up when i searched the repositories
[03:29] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i have no idea what you are compiling or anything else
[03:29] <dooglus> redvelvet: did you see ubotu's message?
[03:29] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: use sudo
[03:29] <dooglus> !azureus
[03:29] <mitch__> howdy peeps..
[03:29] <ubotu> hmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:29] <dooglus> redvelvet: that one
[03:29] <redvelvet> guess not, oops
[03:30] <redvelvet> oh, thanks sorry
[03:30] <dooglus> i'm off for a bit.  good luck.
[03:30] <Phoenix1701> slyjab: The reason for that error is because you need to kill a process using its process ID, not its name.
[03:30] <redvelvet> thanks for the help
[03:30] <mitch__> im about to install debian,  will i be able to chose which window manager it installs during setup?
[03:30] <Phoenix1701> To find the process ID for a running process, run "ps auxc" and look for the number to the left of the name.
[03:30] <Phoenix1701> Then pass that to kill instead.
[03:30] <mr-russ> anybody have a solution for a computer that when your reboot with ubuntu, it hangs, and doesn't reboot?
[03:30] <Ophiocus> were can i learn irc scripting for the x-chat client?
[03:30] <ngmlinux_> nalioth i did sudo http://pastebin.com/464691
[03:30] <nalioth> Ophiocus: try the xchat homepage
[03:31] <slyjab> Phoenix1701: tried that got the same return
[03:31] <ngmlinux_> nalioth, i guess you need to use a super sudo in ubuntu?
[03:31] <Phoenix1701> Exact same?
[03:31] <Ophiocus> hmm. so simple its shameful
[03:31] <slyjab> yep
[03:31] <Ophiocus> :)
[03:31] <mitch__> How do i burn an iso image to cd?
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: it doesn't matter what I'm compiling.  It matters that I have #include <tcl.h> at the top of my file and gcc doesn't find it.  It finds it fine if I say #include "the whole path to tcl.h", but that's not very portable
[03:31] <Phoenix1701> Including the "kill: ron.daily/apt: arguments must be process or job IDs" part?
[03:31] <n0dl> im looking to change my kernel
[03:31] <n0dl> i have a PIII
[03:31] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: then i have no clue.
[03:32] <n0dl> do i get i686 or 686smp?
[03:32] <Ophiocus> n0dl, 386 is fine for that
[03:32] <westymatt> anyone into kernel dev?
[03:32] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: then your tcl hasnt been installed properly, i suspect
[03:32] <ngmlinux_> nalioth, must be another ubuntu bug?
[03:32] <slyjab> no that line wasn't included sorry
[03:32] <nalioth> n0dl: smp is for dual cores or more
[03:32] <ngmlinux_> nalioth, can't wait until ubuntu becomes "stable"
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[03:32] <n0dl> i c
[03:32] <Phoenix1701> Okay, I was about to say.  :)  But it said something about not being able to find that process?
[03:32] <slyjab> yeah
[03:33] <_bradley1> is there a plugin for firefox - totem?
[03:33] <Phoenix1701> Try using killall instead of kill.  You can pass a name to killall and it will look up the PID itself.
[03:33] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, it's the pipe into patch; try | sudo tee patch, etch
[03:33] <mustard5> _bradley1, mozplugger?
[03:33] <nickrude> *etc
[03:33] <_bradley1> mozplugger?
[03:33] <_bradley1> thanks
[03:33] <mustard5> _bradley1, search in synaptic for it :)
[03:34] <_bradley1> ok thank you brb
[03:34] <nickrude> _bradley1, mozilla-mplayer is nice
[03:34] <slyjab> Phoenix1701: no process killed
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: are you familiar with compiling stuff with tcl or SDL on ubuntu?  What more could I possibly need than the actual libraries, if it compiles perfectly given an absolute path to the header?
[03:34] <mustard5> _bradley1, apt-cache show mozplugger should give you some feedback too
[03:34] <_bradley1> nickrude: i can't get mplayer to work...
[03:35] <nickrude> _bradley1, by 'work' , you mean ..
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: is there some way I should be updating my includes path?
[03:35] <ElitePete> i love ubuntu >;-)
[03:36] <nickrude> _bradley1, install, play certain movies, etc?
[03:36] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i've not had any trouble compiling tcl or sdl things, but there is always one -dev you are missing
[03:36] <_bradley1> nickrude: install
[03:36] <_bradley1> in add programs its says it's not supported...
[03:36] <ElitePete> can anyone do me a favor, and tell me if torrentspy.com is screwed up for them also?
[03:36] <bpuccio> ubotu: repositories
[03:36] <ubotu> repositories is probably How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:36] <nickrude> _bradley you probably need to do ^^^
[03:36] <bpuccio> !sources
[03:36] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:37] <dderr> i am getting the following error while trying to install my nvidia driver
[03:37] <_bradley1> gotcha thanks
[03:37] <_bradley1> brb
[03:37] <nickrude> _bradley1, I like the source-o-matic myself
[03:37] <ElitePete> can anyone do me a favor, and tell me if torrentspy.com is screwed up for them also?
[03:37] <dderr> gcc-version-check failed
[03:37] <dderr> any suggestions
[03:37] <mustard5> dderr, which version of gcc does it want?
[03:38] <dderr> it isn't saying
[03:38] <dderr> i added 3.4
[03:38] <mustard5> dderr, install another version would be the answer
[03:38] <nalioth> ElitePete: ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:38] <dderr> and set the CC env variable
[03:38] <ElitePete> k nalioth
[03:38] <mustard5> dderr, ah ok
[03:38] <dderr> but I don't know what it is looking for
[03:38] <ElitePete> no one home nalioth.
[03:38] <mustard5> dderr, maybe its looking for the latest one
[03:39] <nalioth> ElitePete: i'm sorry, but i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic and there are dozens of people in there
[03:39] <ElitePete> * Now talking on #unbutu-offtopic
[03:39] <ElitePete> i see no one?
[03:39] <ElitePete> haha
[03:39] <mustard5> dderr, have you consulted any guides for installing nvidia drivers?
[03:39] <ElitePete> spelling error :-)
[03:39] <nalioth> ElitePete: you can't spell correctly, you dont find the right place
[03:39] <ElitePete> good point
[03:39] <dderr> mustard5 : lol, guides who needs guides
[03:40] <mustard5> dderr, is there any reason you are not installing the nvidia drivers available in the repositories?
[03:40] <paxmaster> hello i am installing ubuntu for my friend but her laptop is dell 2600 and when I boot the vedio flicker
[03:40] <dderr> mustard5 : i don't even know what you mean by that
[03:40] <sethk> paxmaster, when you boot the install cd?  or after you install it?
[03:40] <dderr> i need twin view
[03:40] <mustard5> dderr, well there is a nvidia-glx package in the repositories that installs the 7667 version of the nvidia drivers
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: hm, perhaps you're right.  So then, what packages do I need for it to find tcl.h?  (and why does this sound really silly to me..)  I have tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev tcl8.4-doc.  Should I get the 8.0 ones or something?  My application requires 8.4
[03:41] <mustard5> dderr, you install them using synaptic package manager
[03:41] <mustard5> ubotu: tell dderr about nvidia
[03:41] <paxmaster> I have search on google and I found a same problem but he slove it by add the line append="video=vga16:off" in his lilo
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> or tclx
[03:41] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: all i can say is: you appear to be missing some -dev pkgs
[03:41] <mustard5> dderr, check PM from ubotu
[03:41] <paxmaster> how would I do that in grub
[03:41] <sethk> paxmaster, you are using grub, so you don't use append=,  you add  it to the end of the kernel line
[03:41] <mustard5> dderr, what type of nvidia card do you have?
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: should I `source` something after installing new libraries?
[03:42] <sethk> paxmaster, so you'll have   kernel ...........   root=/dev/whatever ro video=vga16:off
[03:42] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: not necessary
[03:42] <sethk> paxmaster, assuming that video=vga16:off is correct, which I would have to check.
[03:42] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: this isn't off topic
[03:42] <paxmaster> sethk: thx
[03:42] <sethk> paxmaster, use vga=ask
[03:42] <dderr> mustard5 : NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] 
[03:43] <paxmaster> thx sethk
[03:43] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: humor me
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> k
[03:43] <mustard5> dderr, k well it sound like a pretty recent nvidia card, so the nvidia-glx drivers should be fine
[03:43] <stef65> paxmaster: I had similar probs on a nforce2-box with embedded graphics... bios update solved it
[03:43] <mustard5> dderr, did you find the guides that ubotu sent you?
[03:43] <misfit_toy> dderr, that's what this laptop has, they work fine
[03:43] <chombee> Okay I'm running OpenBox, I got my .xsession file working, but if I launch docker in .xsession it doesn't catch any of the dockable apps. If I launch it from a terminal *after* logging in it works. Do you think pypanel is stealing the apps from docker?
[03:44] <dderr> it works
[03:44] <dderr> i guess i figured i need a new driver for twin view
[03:44] <dderr> maybe i'm just being stupid
[03:44] <paxmaster> I will look further in to it
[03:44] <mustard5> dderr, there are some guides for twinview somewhere...*thinking*
[03:45] <misfit_toy> mustard5, you were using "tovid" right? and replaced that file in /usr/bin...didn't we talk about this days ago? anyway, I still get that "audio not detected in file, using silence for audio"...sorry if it wasn't you...
[03:45] <mustard5> misfit_toy, it doesnt sound familiar
[03:46] <misfit_toy> dderr, are you trying to get tv-out working?
[03:46] <mustard5> dderr, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=twinview
[03:46] <misfit_toy> mustard5, k
[03:46] <sethk> BRB
[03:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y> I know is this is probably the wrong place, but where should i go for help with ubuntu and xfce4?
[03:46] <dderr> no just dual monitors
[03:46] <misfit_toy> dderr, ah I see
[03:46] <ngmlinux_> nikerude, ahh let me try that
[03:46] <ngmlinux_> nickrude, ahh let me try that
[03:47] <ngmlinux_> could you explain that a little better nickrude?
[03:48] <misfit_toy> dderr, even though this is my xorg.conf with tvout, it might help you by looking at it: http://fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=157
[03:48] <misfit_toy> dderr, yes it's posted at a fedora site (mine) but it's on a breezy box.
[03:48] <_jason> s0n1cm0nk3y, you can try #xubuntu or ask here and see if someone knows
[03:49] <dderr> i managed to install the newest nvidia driver the other night, and saved my xorg.conf
[03:49] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, to be honest, I'm not real clear on the theory behind that. I got it from this channel a while ago for piping into files that need sudo privileges
[03:49] <dderr> but today i can't seem to get the nvidia driver to take
[03:49] <s0n1cm0nk3y> well during me trying to config it, I lost the ability to put up a wall paper, and I lost the rightclick xfce menu
[03:49] <s0n1cm0nk3y> trying to get that back
[03:49] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, it worked, so I use it :)
[03:49] <dderr> i'm reading through the guides, thanks for all the help
[03:49] <ngmlinux_> nickrude, I'm not terrible concerned with how it works, I'm just unsure of exactly what to type
[03:50] <mustard5> dderr, did you do a sudo nvidia-glx-config enable command?
[03:50] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, what was the line again?
[03:50] <vader> I have some files and I wanr ro make them into a .iso file...ho wwould i do that?
[03:50] <dderr> mustard5 : nop
[03:50] <ngmlinux_> one sec, nickrude
[03:50] <Toma-> vader: put them all in a folder then use mkisofs
[03:50] <mustard5> dderr, k..well that is part of the guide for installing nvidia-glx   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:50] <Chadza> Is there a way for me to take my winxp fonts and add them into ubuntu?
[03:50] <vader> k
[03:50] <redvelvet> grrr i cant find j2re1.4 in the repositories
[03:51] <redvelvet> and i have it set right.
[03:51] <dderr> mustard5 : cool thx
[03:51] <s0n1cm0nk3y> all: I tried reinstalling xfce, but it didnt work
[03:51] <Toma-> Chadza: copy them all to /usr/share/fonts i think...
[03:51] <Chadza> Indeed.
[03:51] <mustard5> dderr, you should see a white nvidia logo come up when you restart X
[03:51] <sethk> Chadza, there is, but it is (no!) not legal
[03:51] <sethk> Chadza, do a google for freetype
[03:51] <ngmlinux_> nickrude, http://pastebin.com/464712
[03:51] <ScreaminIk1> moral question...
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> redvelvet: you'll probably have to get it from sun's website.  Instructions are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java I believe
[03:51] <Toma-> sethk: its perfectly legal if hes got a legit copy of xp
[03:52] <redvelvet> thanks man
[03:52] <ScreaminIk1> anyone?
[03:52] <sethk> Toma-, is it?  ok, didn't know that
[03:52] <Toma-> ;)
[03:52] <mustard5> redvelvet, you don't want jre1.5?
[03:52] <Toma-> ScreaminIk1: just ask dang it.
[03:52] <redvelvet> mustard.
[03:52] <redvelvet> i dont know
[03:52] <sethk> Toma-, I remember reading that they used to be on M$'s web site, and were taken down
[03:52] <mustard5> redvelvet thats the latest one
[03:52] <ScreaminIk1> is it ok to vnc remotely TO MY COMPUTER... and watch my roomie's conversations?
[03:52] <stef65> s0n1cm0nk3y: your saved xfce-session is still in place, so everything is as u left it...
[03:52] <Chadza> Toma, you are my hero.
[03:53] <redvelvet> maybe thats why i cant find it, the wiki is just not up to date.
[03:53] <mustard5> ubotu: tell redvelvet about javadeb
[03:53] <mustard5> ubotu: tell redvelvet about java
[03:53] <coag> what is a command to see hwo much space on a mouted path?
[03:53] <hyphenated> ScreaminIk1: it's probably do-able, but whether it's ok is more of a moral question
[03:53] <_jason> coag, df ?
[03:53] <Toma-> sethk: thats becdause they couldnt check if all the downloads were from legit users...
[03:53] <mustard5> redvelvet, check for PMs from ubotu
[03:53] <mustard5> redvelvet, javadeb is the easiest way to install
[03:53] <Toma-> ScreaminIk1: no
[03:53] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, I think http://pastebin.com/464713 would work
[03:53] <will00> i need to access the data on the windows partition via the live CD. does anyone know how???
[03:53] <s0n1cm0nk3y> um ok
[03:53] <redvelvet> i am wanting to install azureus, will this work?
[03:54] <mustard5> redvelvet, look for the jre1.5+updates deb package at the download link
[03:54] <wildhamster> is it?
[03:54] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef65: so is there someway to get it back to default?
[03:54] <mustard5> redvelvet, yes..this is the jave you need for that irrc
[03:54] <coag> 25931348
[03:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell will00 about mountwindows
[03:54] <soldieruk400> hello all
[03:54] <coag> _jason: is the output in bytes?
[03:54] <redvelvet> mustard5, you're a great help
[03:54] <mustard5> redvelvet, np
[03:55] <_jason> coag, yes, iirc
[03:55] <n0dl> I have a friend who isnt really a big computer person. The most he really uses the computer for is simple web browsing, email, word processing, and listening to cds and stuff.
[03:55] <_jason> will00, read ubotu's second link on mounting a window's drive
[03:55] <n0dl> he wants to try linux out and i mentioned ubuntu
[03:55] <stef65> s0n1cm0nk3y: maybe delete ur ~/.xfce[4]  folder ?
[03:55] <ScreaminIk1> i know you can
[03:55] <ScreaminIk1> i'm doing it
[03:55] <will00> where?
[03:55] <ScreaminIk1> i'm asking if it's ok
[03:55] <Loonix> ive tryed to enter the ubuntu page but it tryed to install something on my computer
[03:55] <n0dl> im going to move him tommorow... Should give him ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:55] <mustard5> n0dl, ubuntu is not too bad...Mepis is more like 'windows' I believe
[03:55] <ScreaminIk1> it's my pc
[03:55] <ScreaminIk1> and my roomie knows i could
[03:56] <Toma-> n0dl: give him kubuntu and/or ubuntu live cds :)
[03:56] <nickrude> NoUse, give him both
[03:56] <_jason> will00, ubotu sent you a private emssage
[03:56] <_jason> will00, message too
[03:56] <Loonix> ive tryed to enter the ubuntu page but it tryed to install something on my computer ! so i declined
[03:56] <nickrude> Loonix, ?
[03:56] <will00> thanks!
[03:56] <ramblingturtle> after installing updates today my sound does not work. anybody else have the same problem
[03:56] <mustard5> n0dl, it all depends on how much mucking around he wants to do to configure his computer...if you configure it all for him that would be easier
[03:56] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef65: is that in the home directory or the root, kind of a linux n00b here
[03:56] <n0dl> mustard5: which i will
[03:57] <Loonix> they called it certificate
[03:57] <n0dl> mustard5: hes afraid of CLI
[03:57] <mustard5> n0dl, well that will make life easier then :)  I've seen people scared away from linux because of the command line
[03:57] <nickrude> Loonix, that's a security certificate, that's pretty common.
[03:57] <mustard5> n0dl, yep :D
[03:57] <Loonix> no its not
[03:57] <Toma-> n0dl: use the live cds first. see if he likes the feel. its also detects alot more on boot
[03:57] <ajulius> hi
[03:57] <n0dl> Toma- i c
[03:57] <stef65> s0n1cm0nk3y:  in the home-dir (~ is a short form for the actual users home)
[03:57] <_jason> I reformatted a fat32 partition to ext3 using gparted and it is working fine.  However, when I do 'fdisk -l', it says 'W95 FAT32' under the System colum.  Why is this?
[03:57] <Loonix> its the 1st site in month trying to do that
[03:57] <ScreaminIk1> ...
[03:57] <n0dl> hmm the only problem is i dont have a live kubuntu cd
[03:58] <mustard5> n0dl, consider Mepis too..it might be more 'friendly'
[03:58] <ajulius> Ubuntu works like a charm :)
[03:58] <coag> how can i mount ntfs as rw?
[03:58] <ScreaminIk1> install ubuntu... open up synaptic... install kubuntu
[03:58] <silverton> _jason, have you rebooted?
[03:58] <ScreaminIk1> ntfs insn't rw
[03:58] <mustard5> coag, well you can't write to ntfs
[03:58] <Loonix> some evil ppl in here
[03:58] <ScreaminIk1> only r
[03:58] <ericmoritz\0> has anyone played with bluetooth in ubuntu?
[03:58] <_jason> silverton, I don't think so.  I should try that
[03:58] <silverton> _jason, yes you should
[03:58] <_jason> silverton, :)
[03:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef65: um... I ls -al
[03:59] <stef65> yup
[03:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef65: I ls -al 'd my home directory, and I cant find my xfce folder
[03:59] <mustard5> coag, you can write to vfat though...and windows can read vfat
[03:59] <bimberi> ajulius: good to hear :)
[03:59] <coag> mustard5: darn
[03:59] <n0dl>  mustard5 I will keep Mepis in mind
[03:59] <coag> my partition on windows with alot of space left on it is ntfs
[04:00] <Toma-> coag: you cxan write to ntfs, but its very experimental
[04:00] <mustard5> coag, you could convert it to vfat
[04:00] <coag> i don't want to corrupt the partition
[04:00] <n0dl> brb
[04:00] <coag> and i don't want to lose the data
[04:00] <mustard5> coag, k
[04:00] <sethk> coag, _very_ experimental.  I wouldn't risk it.
[04:00] <ramblingturtle> greetings, everyone
[04:00] <coag> im not going to
[04:00] <coag> thanks
[04:00] <mustard5> coag, well writing to ntfs might well be just as risky :)
[04:00] <pantz> anyone know how to get kde as an option with gdm?
[04:00] <mustard5> coag, k
[04:01] <ramblingturtle> i have a soundblaster soundcard that worked earlyer today and it is not working. nothing is muted anywhere as far as I can tell anybody willing to help
[04:01] <mustard5> pantz, install kubuntu-desktop will install KDE
[04:01] <bimberi> pantz: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef65: and it also appears that the find it program thats with xfce, and my file manager wont work : /
[04:01] <ajulius> have any of you heard of a computer where you disconnect the ide cable and you get a memory error in diagnostic led but the memory isnt faulty, it just works when u reset the memory?
[04:01] <pantz> mustard5, bimberi thanks
[04:01] <s0n1cm0nk3y> brb
[04:01] <xangel36> can some one help me install a aplication?
[04:01] <ngmlinux_> I'll give it a try nickrude
[04:01] <ajulius> is the memory bus and ide bus interconnected?
[04:01] <ajulius> is that dma related?
[04:01] <mustard5> xangel36, what is the application?
[04:01] <mike_> *
[04:02] <ajulius> computer geeks :P
[04:02] <xangel36> openlaszlo_3.0-unix-2_all.deb and has a lock on it
[04:03] <mustard5> xangel36, use the chown command to changeownership?
[04:03] <flodine> little help after installing artwiz font they only work on gnome but not in aterm or eterm why?
[04:03] <mustard5> xangel36, is it ownership or permissions that are locked?
[04:03] <xangel36> im kind okf new so i dont understand can u make it more simple?
[04:03] <n0dl> since i dont have a live kubuntu disc
[04:03] <carl_> coag, for when you boot into win, you can read/write to your ext3 partition: http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:03] <xangel36> well i got it from a magazine
[04:03] <n0dl> can i just install kubuntu first
[04:03] <mustard5> xangel36, right click on the file and go to properties and see who is the owner and what permissions are on the file
[04:03] <n0dl> then run the live ubuntu disc?
[04:04] <coag> carl_: yeah i have that setup already, thanks though
[04:04] <flodine> anyone have artwiz fonts installed that can help me?
[04:04] <xangel36> it says file owner root
[04:04] <_jason> silverton, nope, still says the ext3 drive is 'W95 FAT32', gparted reports it correctly as ext3
[04:04] <mustard5> xangel36, it may just be showing as read only if you got if from a CD as the medium you took it from is read only
[04:05] <ngmlinux_> no luck nickrude, http://pastebin.com/464725
[04:05] <xangel36> and can read write and execute
[04:05] <mustard5> xangel36, so what is your username on this computer?
[04:05] <Nameeater> I've just upgraded to breezy and it seems nautalus (sp) has lost the "URL" box, how can i get it back?
[04:05] <carl_> coag, also, this claims to be a safe way to write: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS
[04:05] <xangel36> xangel36 im on terminal as root
[04:05] <mustard5> xangel36, chown username.username filename
[04:06] <carl_> I tried once, but it couldn't find the right ntfs.sys file or something
[04:06] <xangel36> but the alien -i does not worl
[04:06] <ajulius> how do i scan my ports in linux?
[04:06] <n0dl> mustard5 out of curiosity how exactly is mepis more different than ubuntu?
[04:06] <mustard5> xangel36, your in root?
[04:06] <xangel36> yes
[04:06] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, possibilities are endless, a sec
[04:06] <ajulius> to see whos using my active ports
[04:06] <xangel36> whit sudo -s -H command
[04:07] <sethk> ajulius, netstat -a
[04:07] <ajulius> sethk thanks, also how do i get firewall ips? i assume ubuntu has a firewall active?
[04:07] <ngmlinux_> sure nickrude
[04:07] <coag> carl_: thanks ill looks more into it
[04:07] <mustard5> n0dl, I have not used it myself, but you can visit www.distrowatch.com and read about it
[04:07] <ajulius> sethk or does ubuntu come with firewall off by default?
[04:07] <sethk> ajulius, I'm not sure, I don't use fake firewalls.
[04:08] <ajulius> whos using a fake firewall
[04:08] <sethk> ajulius, iptables -l will show you what filtering is enabled
[04:08] <ajulius> whatever comes in ubuntu i mean
[04:08] <mustard5> xangel36, being in root you shouldnt need to change the owner since root owns it already   actually :)
[04:08] <sethk> ajulius, anyone who thinks a firewall is software configuration rather than a separate machine.  :)
[04:08] <xangel36> so what do i do to install it?
[04:08] <sethk> ajulius, IP filtering is not a firewall.  But the abuse of the language has, alas, become pervasive
[04:09] <_jason> ajulius, capital L: iptables -L
[04:09] <stef65> ... or a separate virtual machine (user mode linux e.g.)
[04:09] <mustard5> xangel36, but to change the permissions, you could do a chmod +x filename
[04:09] <mustard5> xangel36, that will give it executable permission
[04:09] <sethk> ajulius, which is not to say that ip filtering isn't a good thing.  and iptables is an excellent ip filter.  iptables running on a separate machine, with some proxies, makes an excellent firewall
[04:10] <mustard5> xangel36, then you would install using a dpkg -i filename.deb command
[04:10] <ajulius> needed to use sudo
[04:10] <xangel36> done now what do i do?
[04:10] <ajulius> for iptables
[04:10] <mustard5> xangel36, then you would install using a dpkg -i filename.deb command
[04:10] <ajulius> but it says nothing
[04:10] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, a simple solution, because I'm not really free to think at the moment: sudo -i, then run the line , then exit
[04:10] <ajulius> hmm
[04:10] <ajulius> so ubuntu doesnt have a firewall on by default?
[04:10] <ngmlinux_> i'll try that we'll see
[04:10] <_jason> ajulius, you don't need anything with a default install, ubuntu has no services running to make you vulnerable
[04:10] <mustard5> xangel36, I don't know what effect it is going to have installing it as root though
[04:10] <ngmlinux_> run it the orignal way nickrude?
[04:11] <s0n1cm0nk3y> back
[04:11] <carl_> http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/en/?page=news says  " It is now mandatory to use this beta version as the 0.95.x series is about to expire on November 26th."  Snaptic currently installs .95.4...
[04:11] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, zcat ../diff-2.6.12.2-armcore | patch -p1
[04:11] <sethk> ajulius, I believe you have to install and configure it
[04:11] <mustard5> xangel36, I'm pretty used to installing stuff using sudo, but I guess its all the same thing
[04:11] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef56: ok xfce is acting really weird, I can switch users, then log in anyways with the same account and i get everything back
[04:12] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, the sudo -i will give you a root terminal temporarily. Useful for not thinking about sudo in complicated commands :)
[04:12] <ajulius> sethk yeah firestarter
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> sweeeeeet
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> thanks nickrude
[04:12] <carl_> sf.net has a v96.deb - how do I use that to update what synaptic installed ?
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> i guess it's just a fault of ubuntu
[04:12] <xangel36> so i puu dpkg -i openlaszlo_3.0-unix-2_all.deb?
[04:12] <ajulius> sethk so with linux its fine to have no firewall?
[04:12] <xangel36> only that?
[04:12] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, I should have mentioned it a half hour ago, sorry :)
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> that the other distros don't have
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> haha
[04:12] <mustard5> xangel36, correct
[04:12] <ajulius> sethk:  See with windows its a necessity to have a firewall
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> worked great though nickrude
[04:12] <ngmlinux_> thanks
[04:12] <xangel36> lets try it
[04:12] <ajulius> but i guess windows has all the ports open by default?
[04:12] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, no, it's a 'feature' of sudo :)
[04:12] <bimberi> ajulius: no "firewall by default", on install it isn't listening externally on any ports, use netstat to check what it is listening (eg. sudo netstat -plunt)
[04:13] <bimberi> *"firewall" by default
[04:13] <stef65> ajulius: u read too much symantec promotion....
[04:13] <JoeyDay> Hey, is the /etc/motd file locked somehow in Ubuntu?
[04:13] <ajulius> stef65:  No, with windows if you dont enable the free firewall your ports are open and someone can get in
[04:13] <carl_> firewall peeps: imagine a house with no doors or windows.  do you need a lock?
[04:13] <_jason> ubotu, tell JoeyDay about sudo
[04:13] <ajulius> carl so ubuntu has no doors or windows right?
[04:13] <ngmlinux_> nickrude, oh how I love time saving (or wasting) features lol
[04:14] <stef65> ajulius: win32sec is a good antidot to paranoia
[04:14] <JoeyDay> _jason: I appreciate the help, but I already know about sudo.
[04:14] <ajulius> see windows has open doors and windows
[04:14] <Krhis> hehehe... nice way of putting it, carl_
[04:14] <drew> can anyone help me with setting up my video card (intel 915)?
[04:14] <ngmlinux_> thanks again, you've made my day nickrude
[04:14] <nickrude> ngmlinux_, sudo is useful for remembering to be cautious; I disable the password part
[04:14] <JoeyDay> I'm trying to do this: 'sudo cat /dev/null > /etc/motd'
[04:14] <xangel36> it say reading database ....unpaking and now setting uo openlaslo
[04:14] <carl_> right.  by default nothing can connect to it
[04:14] <_jason> JoeyDay, you should be able to edit motd with sudo, are you getting an error?
[04:14] <JoeyDay> And it says Permission denied.
[04:14] <mustard5> xangel36, thats sounds promising
[04:14] <dderr> mustard5 : i figured out my problem truly bone headed, i was trying to install the nforce driver instead of the gforce driver..opps
[04:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef56:any ideas?
[04:14] <mustard5> dderr, :)
[04:14] <cvt> has anyone gotten any graphics intensive games for ubuntu?
[04:15] <xangel36> yeah o know but now i can type again so i dont think it work
[04:15] <djtansey> hello all. i am trying to rotate my screen. i have figured that part out. but now my mouse continues to move as if the screen hadn't been rotate. can you rotate the direction of your mouse?
[04:15] <Krhis> Quake 4. ^^
[04:15] <mustard5> dderr, we all do stuff like that ;)
[04:15] <JoeyDay> Well, I'm just editing the file in nano now. Seems to have worked.
[04:15] <JoeyDay> It must've just not liked what I was trying to do.
[04:15] <ScreaminIk1> armagetron...
[04:15] <ScreaminIk1> slune
[04:15] <Nameeater> Ubuntu has mountd my XP ntfs partition but I can't access it with the command line or gnome, what do i need to do to make it work?
[04:15] <cafuego> cvt: Yep.
[04:15] <mustard5> xangel36, is it finished installing?
[04:15] <xangel36> i suppose
[04:15] <dderr> mustard5 : glad to know it isn't just me
[04:15] <cafuego> ppracer, flighgear
[04:15] <mustard5> xangel36, well what instructions did they give you on running it?
[04:16] <xangel36> none
[04:16] <mustard5> xangel36, try typeing man openlaszlo
[04:16] <cvt> cafuego, cool.
[04:16] <mustard5> xangel36, or just openlaszlo
[04:16] <cafuego> cvt: Lots of stuff to make your gfx card do poo.
[04:17] <xangel36> none of the work
[04:17] <cafuego> cvt: If all else fails, blender.
[04:17] <nickrud> !tell Nameeater about ntfs
[04:17] <mustard5> xangel36, what is it supposed to do?
[04:17] <stef65> Does somebody happen to have a kernel-image with this $%&-via dri module enabled? Just fsck'd up the third compile this evening....
[04:17] <nickrud> Nameeater, the msg you just got should help with reading your ntfs partition
[04:18] <Nameeater> chur
[04:18] <cvt> when i get my pc to 32 bit instead of the current 64 bit for amd 64 i can install ubuntu and get those games.
[04:18] <Nameeater> any idea where the "url" bar in the file browser has gone? :/
[04:18] <carl_> how do I install using a .deb?
[04:18] <_jason> !deb
[04:18] <ubotu> methinks deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:18] <xangel36> is a flash Gui-Building enviornent
[04:18] <carl_> thanks
[04:19] <cafuego> cvt: Yes, and they'll run fine (as opposed to in 64bit mode)
[04:19] <mustard5> xangel36, I would open synaptic..look in the STATUS tab section for the local and obselete section and find the information on what files where installed and where..then see if it installed a manual somewhere
[04:19] <cafuego> cvt: that's what I did 2 days ago.
[04:19] <nickrud> Nameeater, try hitting clt-l
[04:19] <xangel36> ok
[04:19] <cvt> cafuego, how did u change to 32 bit?
[04:20] <Nameeater> brilliant, thanks :) couldn't find it in the menu's
[04:20] <Krhis> Same here, I have a AMD64 3200+ and no problem with games.
[04:20] <cafuego> cvt: Wipe, reinstall.
[04:20] <bimberi> JoeyDay: "cat /dev/null | sudo tee /etc/motd" would work (the issue is that the > redirection runs as your normal user)
[04:20] <cvt> cafuego, ok cool
[04:20] <cafuego> As added bonus, in 32bit xvid files play just fine, DVDs work, flash works, java works..
[04:20] <JoeyDay> Right.
[04:20] <mustard5> xangel36, if its a manual stored in a .gz file you can use zcat to open it
[04:20] <xangel36> coul i type apt-get install openlaszlo?
[04:20] <JoeyDay> I found you can also just enclose the > part in quotes.
[04:21] <mustard5> xangel36, no
[04:21] <cafuego> cvt: I have /home on a separate partition, so it was all quite easy... all my data & settings were saved.
[04:21] <JoeyDay> sudo 'cat /dev/null > /etc/motd'
[04:21] <mustard5> xangel36, that installs from the online repostiry
[04:21] <mustard5> xangel36, you are installing locally..so you used the dpkg command
[04:21] <cvt> cafuego, how many gB's did u partition for settings?
[04:21] <mustard5> xangel36, synaptic will have it in the local and obselete section now
[04:21] <nickrud> JoeyDay, I could kiss you :)
[04:22] <mustard5> xangel36, as you installed it 'local'
[04:22] <cafuego> cvt: My /home is 48GB
[04:22] <JoeyDay> nickrud: ??
[04:22] <xangel36> if i do the apt-get it says openlaszlo is already the newst version but i cant see it in the aplications directory
[04:22] <mustard5> xangel36, there are options in the synaptic menu to display the information and where the file installed stuff and what files were installed
[04:23] <mustard5> xangel36, it would only know about the applications menu if it was a package made for ubuntu
[04:23] <bimberi> JoeyDay: i get "sudo: cat /dev/null > /etc/motd: command not found" ??
[04:23] <xangel36> ohh
[04:23] <mustard5> xangel36, this is just a random package for general use
[04:23] <nickrud> JoeyDay, I've a few lines in some scripts I would like to set up that that will work extremely well on. Thank you.
[04:23] <xangel36> ok
[04:23] <mustard5> xangel36, ideally they would have included instructions :)
[04:23] <ryan> i'm a little confused about burning dvds here, my initial reaction was to place the VIDEO_TS folder in nautilus cd/dvd creation window and burn it, which worked fine. of course (and as i expected) it didn't play in my home burner or even in totem/mplayer. after researching the actual way to do it i see there is a cdrecord-ProDVD version, but i'm rather perplexed because it seems to need a license, also seems to only cut 1gb of data, yet it also se
[04:24] <mustard5> xangel36, but since they haven't then you need to study up how to run it
[04:24] <s0n1cm0nk3y> stef56: ok, I booted into gnome to make things easier (I hope at least) what should I do?
[04:24] <xangel36> thats kind of hard sience im new to linux
[04:24] <ryan> just fine. the cdrecord-ProDVD binaries all seem to be quite old, too. I'm wondering if it has been superceded now?
[04:24] <mustard5> xangel36, you could try typeing in the first part of the name and then hitting TAB twice and see what options there are to choose from that look like that might start it up
[04:24] <nalioth> ryan: it is free for personal use, but k3b makes dvds just fine
[04:24] <mustard5> xangel36, or you could even try hitting alt+f2 typing in a few letters and see if it autocompletes the command to start it
[04:25] <xangel36> what good books could i buy to lear linux and how to install aplicatios on terminal?
[04:25] <ryan> nalioth; so cdrecord on its own (while it did burn the complete dvd with the data accessable to me) can't do it, even if i use mkisofs -dvd-video, but k3b can?
[04:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xangel36 about cli
[04:25] <mustard5> xangel36, there are a number of online resources
[04:25] <mustard5> ubotu, has sent you some links to try
[04:25] <ubotu> Wish i knew, mustard5
[04:25] <nalioth> xangel36: check your PM, no $ necessary
[04:26] <nalioth> ryan: i use k3b all the time to do dvd
[04:26] <xangel36> ok
[04:26] <mustard5> xangel36, if you hang out in here you will soon start picking up some things too ;)
[04:27] <mustard5> xangel36, it all becomes second nature after a while
[04:27] <xangel36> thats what im planing to do when my clases ends tomorrow
[04:27] <mustard5> xangel36, I've only been on linux myself since June...
[04:27] <bshumate> bimberi / JoeyDay : using sudo with a subshell allows redirection to work, e.g. :  sudo sh -c "echo foo > /etc/motd"
[04:27] <bshumate> man sudo ;-)
[04:27] <dderr> mustard5 : yeah twin view is working
[04:27] <Squee-D> is there a resource dedicated to setting up ubuntu as a media center pc?
[04:27] <ngmlinux_> nickrude, you still there?
[04:27] <mustard5> dderr, well done
[04:28] <ngmlinux_> nickrude I have one more question if you have a sec
[04:28] <dderr> it only took me about 2 days
[04:28] <xangel36> i like this stuff sience im always been a mac user
[04:28] <s0n1cm0nk3y> anyone else here know something about xfce?
[04:28] <mustard5> dderr, I'm sure you learnt a lot in that time :)
[04:28] <coag> mustard5: i seem to have you by a couple years
[04:28] <mustard5> coag, hehe yeah
[04:28] <coag> biut i can't seem to get rid of windows all the way
[04:28] <Hobbsee> s0n1cm0nk3y: in #xfce ?
[04:28] <coag> that will change when i get my new computer this christmas
[04:28] <coag> this will be my ubuntu server machine
[04:28] <ngmlinux_> I'm getting a /bin/sh: gcc: command not found -> http://pastebin.com/464742
[04:28] <s0n1cm0nk3y> hobbsee, is that on freenode?
[04:29] <dderr> recap ctrl-alt-backspace, /etc/inid.d/gdm restart
[04:29] <Hobbsee> s0n1cm0nk3y: yep
[04:29] <mustard5> coag, I was on windows98se so the change was not that hard to make...win98 was driving me batty
[04:29] <coag> O.O
[04:29] <s0n1cm0nk3y> hobbsee: thanks I'll check it out
[04:29] <coag> 98?
[04:29] <mustard5> coag, yeah 98se
[04:29] <coag> gosh, it's been a few eyars since i used 98
[04:29] <coag> years
[04:29] <Hentai^XP> get rid of 98!
[04:29] <dderr> and i hosed my system so many times w/ dselect that i learned about aptitude
[04:29] <mustard5> coag, XP was too costly for me
[04:29] <Hentai^XP> to teh death of 98!
[04:29] <coag> mustard5: i see how the change was easy :P
[04:29] <fer> Hi There
[04:29] <xangel36> well mustard5 thanks a lit for your help and time take care good bye
[04:30] <coag> mustard5: i get windows software free :) msdn
[04:30] <mustard5> xangel36, ok  have fun!
[04:30] <dderr> msdn sellout --> as i sip a cup of starbucks coffee
[04:30] <nalioth> coag: i can get dog poop for free.
[04:30] <coag> dderr: haha
[04:30] <coag> nalioth: so we are on the same ground i see!
[04:30] <mustard5> dderr, yeah I became quite proficient at reinstalling myself when I first started
[04:31] <Squee-D> My Suburban Dog Network
[04:31] <Squee-D> ?
[04:31] <ngmlinux_> anybody ever get a /bin/sh: gcc: command not found error before?
[04:31] <BlueEagle> mustard5: Did you reinstall yourself? o.O
[04:31] <Hentai^XP> coag: how you get MSDN?
[04:31] <Squee-D> ngmlinux_ yes when i didnt have gcc installed
[04:31] <ngmlinux_> you'd think the ubuntu people could at least get that right
[04:31] <Hentai^XP> uni ?
[04:31] <mustard5> BlueDevil, :)
[04:31] <Kyral> ngmlinux_: sudo apt-get install build-essiential
[04:31] <coag> Hentai^XP: my mom teaches at a tech school and doesnt use her account
[04:31] <ngmlinux_> thanks Kyral
[04:31] <mustard5> ngmlinux_, without the typo ;)
[04:31] <Kyral> ngmlinux_: but spell it right
[04:31] <BlueEagle> mustard5: No, that's my evil twin. :p
[04:31] <ngmlinux_> Kyral stuff keeps uninstalling everytime i update
[04:31] <dderr> i need to replace the HD and reinstall osx next
[04:31] <Squee-D> you dont need gcc on a base install
[04:32] <ngmlinux_> essential
[04:32] <Squee-D> as FREAKY as that sounds :P
[04:32] <Hentai^XP> coag: get me server 2000!
[04:32] <coag> Hentai^XP: that would be illegal!
[04:32] <mustard5> BlueEagle, doh
[04:32] <dderr> that kind of scares me
[04:32] <songyi> hello
[04:32] <BlueEagle> mustard5: ;D
[04:32] <coag> Hentai^XP: why would you want to use windows for a server anyways
[04:32] <coag> Hentai^XP: that is just plain foolishness
[04:32] <ngmlinux_> "couldn't stat this and that"
[04:32] <Hentai^XP> coag: come into #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <ngmlinux_> Kyral
[04:33] <mustard5> ngmlinux_, there was a typo in the command...
[04:33] <dderr> hears the deal, i you are a developer and you want to use open source tools, windows truly suck
[04:33] <mustard5> ngmlinux_, its build-essential
[04:33] <_jason> I reformatted my fat32 partition (hda5) to ext3 using gparted.  Upon reboot gparted correctly displays hda5 as ext3, however 'fdisk -l' lists hda5 as 'W95 FAT32' under the 'Systems' column.  Why would this be?
[04:33] <dderr> and will make your life difficult
[04:33] <ngmlinux_> yeah that's what i did
[04:33] <Squee-D> dderr thats a little overstated
[04:33] <Kyral> _jason: its okay
[04:33] <mustard5> ngmlinux_, paste exactly the command you typed in in here
[04:33] <ngmlinux_> sudo apt-get update
[04:33] <ngmlinux_> then i'll try again mustard5
[04:33] <mustard5> ngmlinux_, ah ok
[04:34] <Kyral> ngmlinux_: are you using any "odd" repos?
[04:34] <_jason> Kyral, lol if you say so, can you give me a term I can google or something?  I'd like to understand why and I've been searching but with no luck
[04:34] <Kyral> _jason: I have no idea, but it happened to me and ran fine :D
[04:34] <dderr> Squee-D : depends what you are doing, but gnu type tools + plus windows usually means pain
[04:35] <_jason> Kyral, ah okay :)  It's now my home directory so I hope it runs fine!
[04:35] <Kyral> _jason: I think its just whatever identifier that the partitioner put there
[04:36] <intelikey> anyone have da'as where the config file is that controls where apt searches for a cdrom ?
[04:36] <_jason> Kyral, alright thanks, I feel a little more comfortable about it now
[04:36] <Squee-D> dderr well you qualified your statement a lot better that time. I stll have little trouble using cyg and dev-cpp. but it really does depend on what your building, who for, etc.
[04:36] <ngmlinux_> odd repos?
[04:36] <ngmlinux_> I hope not
[04:36] <mustard5> intelikey, you can add a cdrom via synaptic
[04:36] <ngmlinux_> you never know ubuntu is very high maintenance
[04:37] <dderr> Squee-D : I battled the java + cygwin canundrum enough that I prefer osX or linux
[04:37] <Squee-D> i dont have any great love of Windows but i take no shame in using it daily to develop software and as my usual desktop environment
[04:37] <Kyral> ngmlinux_: PLF?
[04:37] <mustard5> ngmlinux_, it is at the start ...but I hardly do anything to it now
[04:37] <intelikey> mustard5 i have added via apt-cdrom using the -d /mount/point  but it is still looking for it on /cdrom
[04:37] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, not really that high maintenance, it's just not what you're used to
[04:38] <ngmlinux_> i've only been using linux for 5 years
[04:38] <ngmlinux_> windows and mac os for like 20
[04:38] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, debian?
[04:38] <Kyral> I consider XP high maintenance ;P
[04:38] <Squee-D> hehehe. ngmlinux_ try Gentoo. thats high maint
[04:38] <ngmlinux_> debain for maybe 7 months
[04:38] <dderr> Squee-D : I just ordered visual studio pro today for windows mobile development, but I still love the the *nix philosophy
[04:38] <ngmlinux_> i used a stripped down gentoo on an embedded system
[04:38] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, about the same, and it took about 2 hours to set this up
[04:38] <ngmlinux_> MUCH harder than regular gentoo
[04:38] <ngmlinux_> no package management
[04:39] <mustard5> intelikey, hmmm...not sure..never used apt-cdrom myself
[04:39] <Squee-D> well gentoo minus package management == LFS
[04:39] <ngmlinux_> linux had it's day
[04:39] <intelikey> so does anyone have knowledge of where the config file is that controls where apt searches for a cdrom ?
[04:39] <ngmlinux_> well
[04:39] <ngmlinux_> linux based stuff
[04:39] <ThePredator> everything I try to compile says cpp is not sane when I run ./configure
[04:39] <ngmlinux_> benifits a lot from the work of linux
[04:39] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, no package management?
[04:39] <ThePredator> gcc is current
[04:39] <mustard5> intelikey, is the mount point in fstab and mounted properly?
[04:39] <ngmlinux_> nope stripped down gentoo to run on 128MB of flash
[04:40] <dderr> etc / apt / sources.list
[04:40] <Squee-D> ngmlinux_ sounds like fun none the less
[04:40] <intelikey> mustard5 yes and yes.   in fact it umounts it and then looks for it in /cdrom
[04:40] <ngmlinux_> pain in the ass
[04:40] <nickrud> sorry, read out of context
[04:40] <ThePredator> anybody know what could be the problem?
[04:40] <Squee-D> ngmlinux_ what processor?
[04:40] <ngmlinux_> sorry idk if i'm alowed to say that
[04:40] <ngmlinux_> elan on that machine
[04:40] <mustard5> intelikey, hmmm...frustrating :)
[04:40] <ngmlinux_> no wait
[04:40] <ngmlinux_> ivc3
[04:40] <intelikey> somewhat
[04:40] <Squee-D> ivc3, they use that in the new squeezebox yeah?
[04:41] <mustard5> could you edit the sources.list entry by hand?
[04:41] <ThePredator> so nobody knows what could be wrong wiht my cpp?
[04:41] <ngmlinux_> ok it looks like apt-get build-essentials is working now
[04:41] <Kyral> mustard5: yes you can lol
[04:41] <Adyeths> anyone know how to get an old zip drive to work in ubuntu?
[04:41] <intelikey> mustard5 who ?
[04:41] <sethk> ngmlinux_, there is an acronym for that (PITA)
[04:41] <mustard5> intelikey, that was for you
[04:41] <sethk> Adyeths, parallel port or SCSI?
[04:41] <Adyeths> its an internal zip drive.
[04:42] <mustard5> intelikey, I take it you are not on gnome?
[04:42] <intelikey> hehhe that info is not in /etc/apt/sources.list   if i knew where it was i would surely edit it.
[04:42] <Adyeths> it SORTOF works. but I can't seem to get the disks to mount.
[04:42] <Adyeths> and I really need to get some info off this one zip disk I have. :/
[04:42] <sethk> Adyeths, internal is probably IDE
[04:42] <intelikey> mustard5 no i need to get apt working before that is even possable.
[04:43] <Adyeths> yes. I believe its ide.
[04:43] <mustard5> intelikey, ok..well what if I add a cdrom to my sources.list via synaptic and show you the entry from my sources.list?
[04:43] <dderr> its the first line of sources.list
[04:43] <intelikey> mustard5 it will look just like mine.
[04:43] <mustard5> intelikey, well what are you on?
[04:43] <Adyeths> I know its /dev/hdb4 .... and I can read directly from it... but I can't seem to get it to mount.
[04:44] <intelikey> the mount point for the cdrom is not     i repete  NOT in sources.list mustard5
[04:44] <mustard5> intelikey, I understand that..but isnt the aim to get a CD entry in your sources.list?
[04:45] <ngmlinux_> "E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel" when I tried to apt-get install ncurses-devel
[04:45] <intelikey> mustard5 no.  i have that   no problemo
[04:45] <ngmlinux_> anybody on that one?
[04:45] <mustard5> intelikey, k
[04:45] <mustard5> intelikey, I'm missing the point of the exercise I guess
[04:46] <Squee-D> oooh looky, my first ever ubuntu login screen :)
[04:46] <intelikey> mustard5 yes i think so.
[04:46] <mustard5> Squee-D, now the fun begins :)
[04:47] <Squee-D> no mouse == the biggest fun
[04:47] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, try libncurses5-dev
[04:47] <dderr> Thanks for the help everyone
[04:47] <Adyeths> so... anyone know how I can get these zip disks to mount?
[04:47] <ngmlinux_> http://pastebin.com/464765
[04:47] <_jason> update-notifier is hogging my cpu, can I tell it to stop and come back later?
[04:47] <ngmlinux_> ok, thanks nickru, i'll give that a shot
[04:47] <Squee-D> actually the biggest fun is going to be getting my hpt 370 chip behaving and to move the drive to a different node in /dev/
[04:48] <nickrud> intelikey, I've just been watching, but apt-cdrom man page mentions that the mount point needs to be defined in fstab. If you know that already, sorry
[04:49] <mustard5> nickrud, I brought that up earlier :)
[04:49] <intelikey> nickrud yeah i got that,  thanks tho
[04:49] <nickrud> mustard5, heh, well, I tried
[04:50] <mustard5> intelikey, so what is the mount point you are trying to get to?
[04:50] <intelikey> mustard5 /home/<user>/disk
[04:50] <ngmlinux_> nickrud, I don't know where people learn this stuff but that worked!
[04:51] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, aptitude search ncurses
[04:51] <nickrud> ngmlinux_, and, about 5 years of debian/ubuntu :)
[04:51] <intelikey> mustard5 i could ln -s /home/<name>/disk /cdrom  but that would kinda defete part of the purpose.
[04:53] <intelikey> it looks like i'll have to just to install synaptic and try from there.
[04:53] <mustard5> intelikey, yeah..I havent had much luck finding anything in the manuals
[04:53] <Chadza> Hey, anyone know what I need to install to watch .wmv's?
[04:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell Chadza about w32codecs
[04:54] <Chadza> I already have w32codecs installed.
[04:54] <mustard5> intelikey, what about the -m option ?
[04:54] <_jason> Chadza, what player are you using
[04:55] <Chadza> Totem dies on them and .movs and vlc plays the audio, but no video.
[04:55] <mustard5> intelikey, in the apt-cdrom manual there is a -m option that seems vaguely relevant
[04:55] <_jason> Chadza, try totem-xine or mplayer
[04:55] <intelikey> i have removed the cdrom entry from sources.list and apt-get update'd  then apt-cdrom add -m(and-d) /mount/point  and apt-get update. but it still don't find  it.
[04:55] <Chadza> Okay, lemme play.
[04:55] <mustard5> intelikey, hmmm bummer
[04:55] <encompass> Good Morning everyone
[04:55] <_jason> Chadza, for totem-xine, just isntall the totem-xine package in synaptic (will replace totem-gstreamer).  For mpalyer, ubotu will send you a link
[04:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell Chadza about mplayer
[04:56] <mkyb14> anyone ever get awstats to work?
[04:56] <Chadza> _jason, You are my hero of the day.
[04:57] <encompass> I am trying to setup my firewall, is there a way to open ports up without showing they are open... in otherwords I want to open some ports but want themn to remain stealthed.  is that possible?
[04:57] <_jason> Chadza, great!
[04:57] <nickrud> encompass, I'm not an iptables guru, but I think you can do that only by specifying particular hosts you'd allow to connect
[04:58] <encompass> hmm
[04:58] <encompass> yeah
[04:58] <encompass> dang, my hosts change
[04:59] <Chadza> _jason, w00t, I can play a vid in totem now that crashed iTunes and Quicktime.
[04:59] <nickrud> encompass, look into dyndns.org, you can get some dns stuff set up there, and name the hosts
[05:00] <encompass> on yet another note.
[05:00] <intelikey> well i've got this install so casterated that it may have something to do with there being no locales installed
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> thanks everybody for the help
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> thanks nickrud
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> I'm heading out
[05:00] <encompass> does anyone know of a company that sells prebuilt ubuntu computers?
[05:00] <nickrud> bye ngmlinux_
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> getting a bunch of warnings compiling my kernel but no errors yet, fingers crossed
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> later
[05:02] <intelikey> nickrud yeah......
[05:02] <encompass> haha
[05:02] <encompass> cause you can
[05:02] <encompass> haha
[05:02] <Chadza> encompass, HP was talking about putting it on their laptops, but I haven't checked into it since I heard that this past summer.
[05:03] <PoW> I recently installed the gstreamer xvid codecs, but it seems my audio is way out of sync. Anyone have a clue on how to fix this?
[05:03] <Nameeater> I'm trying to install Opera browser, but it complains that it can't get libqt3c102-mt, which it cant because it is now just libqt3
[05:03] <Nameeater> what can i do to make it install opera anyway?
[05:04] <intelikey> is there a way to remove a vertual package ?
[05:04] <mustard5> Nameeater, I would think there would be ways of installing opera without that lib
[05:04] <mustard5> Nameeater, I've never tried though
[05:04] <nickrud> !opera
[05:04] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:04] <konfuzed> alvyn: hello
[05:04] <mustard5> Nameeater, try going over the guide that ubotu showed above
[05:05] <alvyn> hello evryone
[05:05] <Nameeater> i have
[05:05] <Nameeater> it doesn't help me with this package :/
[05:05] <PoW> What's the command to install .deb files?
[05:05] <PoW> packages*
[05:05] <konfuzed> alvyn: even though you may see my name listed on the left
[05:05] <konfuzed> it does not nescesarily mean that I am physically whatching the screen
[05:05] <encompass> I want to setup my computer for remote administration threw a graphical and ssh client.  How do I setup gnome to recieve new account logins over the net.  and How do I let the proper ports threw for both ssh and xvnc
[05:05] <intelikey> PoW dpkg -i
[05:05] <intelikey> PoW man dpkg
[05:05] <MoonRanger> is their guide or walkthrough for upgrading Firefox in ubuntu to 1.5
[05:06] <PoW> oh ya
[05:06] <PoW> thanks
[05:06] <nickrud> Nameeater, check to be sure you got the right deb from opera
[05:06] <mustard5> Nameeater, it mentions in the guide about the 'qt shared' version ..ist there another version?
[05:06] <nickrud> firefox15
[05:06] <encompass> MoonRanger: shouldn't it do it after a while?
[05:06] <sklav> Hi guys
[05:06] <encompass> hi
[05:06] <nickrud> !firefox15
[05:06] <ubotu> firefox15 is, like, totally, see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[05:06] <Nameeater> I tried the repo way so i didn't have to set up all that stuff, but it hasn't worked so i will download the opera.com version now
[05:06] <nickrud> MoonRanger, ^^^
[05:06] <mustard5> Nameeater, the qt shared version will give you a missing file problem
[05:07] <sklav> i think there is an issue with firefox 1.5
[05:07] <MoonRanger> ok
[05:07] <sklav> check the website before running to install
[05:07] <sklav> i think something about a buffer overflow
[05:07] <mustard5> sklav, I have heard some problems about it freezing
[05:07] <sklav> maybe it was that
[05:08] <sklav> i read to much security stuff to begin with i might have crossed my wires
[05:08] <mustard5> sklav, yeah.. I read a security flaw was discovered or something
[05:08] <mustard5> sklav, and that the flaw caused the freezing
[05:08] <sklav> were :o hehe
[05:09] <sklav> after a while of procrastinating i figured my new project is a to compete with linuxtoda.com
[05:09] <sklav> hehe
[05:09] <sklav> see how long before i realize it a dead end attempt
[05:09] <sklav> oops linuxtoday.com
[05:09] <sklav> is what i meant
[05:10] <intelikey> hmmm apt-get install language-pack-en-base  wants to install 21.4M of files    lol talk about bloat.
[05:10] <nickrud> Nameeater, I did aptitutde install libqt3-mt xlibs , and opera*shared*etch installed fine
[05:10] <sklav> better than all languague packs
[05:10] <sklav> ;)
[05:10] <Goldfisch> I was investigating loading airsnort on my ubuntu laptop to play with my wireless madwifi card. Do you guys recommend that or another tool.
[05:11] <intelikey> sklav that's just 62m
[05:11] <sklav> go for it all you might pick up a new language
[05:11] <sklav> ;)
[05:11] <konfuzed> hey
[05:11] <Nameeater> nickrud: wierd, i haev both those packages and it still died :)
[05:12] <intelikey> daus to kahn not
[05:12] <sklav> i must say my ubuntu servers rocks
[05:12] <techrush> i wasnt able to do much with airsnort
[05:12] <Nameeater> does the breezy apt source.list have all the extra repo's in it? (multiverse etc)
[05:12] <sklav> yes Nameeater
[05:12] <nickrud> Nameeater, and opera sure looks different to me now :)
[05:12] <nickrud> Nameeater, not by default, no
[05:12] <mustard5> Nameeater, you may need to enable them
[05:12] <sklav> you need to uncomment them
[05:12] <wuming> how can I set the DNS server ?
[05:12] <Nameeater> i've uncommented all the lines
[05:12] <intelikey> !repos
[05:12] <ubotu> somebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:13] <Nameeater> but i only see multiverse on the back-ports one
[05:13] <DrBair> Goldfisch:  aircrack is much better
[05:13] <Goldfisch> techrush: I'm led to believe it uses linux-wlan-ng, which is NOT what I have on my laptop.
[05:13] <nickrud> Nameeater, add multiverse to every line that has universe in it
[05:13] <Goldfisch> DrBair: I will check that out.
[05:13] <wuming> !dns
[05:13] <ubotu> wuming: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:13] <sklav> time to play some socom 3
[05:13] <sklav> i see you guys later on
[05:14] <mustard5> wuming, you on gnome?
[05:14] <encompass> bye
[05:14] <sklav> i switched after torvalds said it sucked hehe
[05:14] <wuming> mustard5:yes
[05:14] <sklav> not
[05:14] <mustard5> wuming, have you tried system>>administration>>networking?
[05:14] <nickrud> Nameeater, the package I got for ubuntu was opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[05:15] <sklav> or just edit the /etc/resolv.conf to add dns entries
[05:15] <Nameeater> from the opera repo or their website?
[05:15] <ElitePete> i seem to have lost my volume icon can somone help me find it :-)
[05:15] <nickrud> Nameeater, off the website (I hit the green button)
[05:15] <mustard5> ElitePete, add a panel
[05:15] <ejofee> is there any way i could switch to dapper drake as an upgrade (that is, without reformatting partition)?
[05:15] <wuming> mustard5: there is nothing I can do about DNS there~,in the networking tools
[05:16] <Nameeater> nod, i tried the repo before, i am downloading from the website now, wanted to save having to fix up the config stuff that isn't added by using the repo x)
[05:16] <ElitePete> mustard5 i did
[05:16] <ElitePete> doesn't show up.
[05:16] <mustard5> ElitePete, the volume applet is in Add to panel option
[05:16] <emanuel> Hello, is gmake equals to make in ubuntu?
[05:16] <mustard5> ElitePete, ah ok
[05:16] <ptlo> emanuel: gmake == make on all linux distributions
[05:16] <nickrud> I almost never use an outside repo, I'd rather get the strange deb and resolve dependencies myself
[05:16] <ElitePete> i hit addd
[05:17] <ElitePete> and it doesn't show up..
[05:17] <mustard5> wuming, you don't have a TAB with DNS on it in networking?
[05:17] <emanuel> Ah... so, I just can add a symlink to make, right?
[05:17] <mustard5> wuming, try editing your etc/resolv.conf file
[05:17] <wuming> mustard5:sorry, found it just now
[05:17] <ElitePete> mustard5 i hit add ant it doesn't show up
[05:18] <mustard5> ElitePete, maybe its hidden or something
[05:18] <ElitePete> well, how do i un hide that mofo.
[05:18] <abdul> anyone know how to get .wmv files to work on firefox?
[05:18] <mustard5> ElitePete, hehehe..I'm not sure..just trying to think of a solution :)
[05:19] <nickrud> abdul, aptitude install totem-xine , and read the following link:
[05:19] <wuming> mustard5: I add another dns server, close the program, start the program again, check the dns setting, the one I add isnot there
[05:19] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[05:19] <nickrud> !tell abdul about 32codecs
[05:20] <nickrud> !tell abdul about w32codecs
[05:20] <nickrud> duh
[05:20] <quacker> hmmm, anyone here use the ghnuchess or phalanx with the new knghts (kde front end)?
[05:20] <Phoenix1701> Hey all...  trying to boot Ubuntu off CD for the first time, and not having a very good time of it.  It doesn't seem to recognize either my Logitech or Kensington keyboard, either plugged into a USB or PS2 port.  Any tips on how to get it to recognize one or the other?
[05:20] <ElitePete> can anyone help me my volume icon has been stolen!
[05:20] <quacker> It just thinks forever -- on the FIRST move.
[05:21] <nickrud> ElitePete, right click the panel, add->volume control or such
[05:21] <ElitePete> i did, it doesn't show up
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> Anyone have any thoughts on my keyboard issue?
[05:22] <nickrud> ElitePete, does your sound work?
[05:22] <ElitePete> works fine
[05:22] <nickrud> strange
[05:22] <abdul> nickrud, im getting an error
[05:22] <ElitePete> alsamixer comes up no problem in terminal
[05:22] <ElitePete> just my icon has been stolen
[05:22] <nickrud> ElitePete, try switching to another theme, then back
[05:22] <ElitePete> Aight
[05:22] <abdul> nickrud, please keep in mind im still on hoary hedgehog, i hope you know how to do it on hoary hedgehog
[05:23] <ubuntu_newbie> can anyone help - trying to upgrade freepops - only .deb available for ubuntu
[05:23] <nickrud> abdul, yeah, so, some different advice :0
[05:23] <ElitePete> nickrud, no l0ve
[05:24] <Phoenix1701> Ookay, I'm going to take everyone's silence as a request for more information, so here goes: the keyboard works fine in the BIOS, but when it gets to the Ubuntu boot prompt the caps lock key no longer causes a light on the keyboard.
[05:24] <Phoenix1701> It seems, for all intents and purposes, dead, even though the BIOS liked it just fine.
[05:24] <ce_14thn_jomblo> hai!
[05:24] <ElitePete> Phoenix Breezy or hoary?
[05:24] <nickrud> abdul, install mplayer (wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto) then install mozilla-mplayer, and then the w32codecs.
[05:24] <abdul> ??
[05:24] <Phoenix1701> ElitePete: Breezy, just downloaded tonight.
[05:24] <ElitePete> hm
[05:24] <Phoenix1701> It's Kubuntu, to be precise.
[05:24] <ce_14thn_jomblo> abdul
[05:25] <abdul> yes
[05:25] <Phoenix1701> Would a Mac keyboard suffice?  I have a couple of those...
[05:25] <nickrud> abdul, that's what I used for media on hoary
[05:25] <ElitePete> it's usb phoenix?
[05:25] <ce_14thn_jomblo> chat sama i yuuu
[05:25] <Phoenix1701> Yeah.  Both of 'em are USB...  but I have a USB/PS2 adapter I tried too, no joy.
[05:25] <ElitePete> hm.
[05:25] <bz0b> hello all
[05:25] <ElitePete> i dunno man, tried another usb port?
[05:25] <bz0b> how is everyone tonight?
[05:26] <jordo23_> What's the default location for wallpapers in Ubuntu?
[05:26] <nickrud> ElitePete, I'm not sure about what you got wrong :) Try creating a new panel, and add it there, for kicks
[05:26] <bz0b> Does anyone have any ideas on what I should do for a brand new install of ubuntu 5.10 other than an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:27] <Phoenix1701> I'm going to try the keyboard on this Mac...  so forgive my silence for a bit.
[05:27] <nickrud> bz0b, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:27] <ElitePete> nope nick
[05:27] <ElitePete> everything else adds fine
[05:27] <wuming> how to setup a local dns server?
[05:27] <ubuntu_> hi all
[05:27] <tipnmo> i downloaded the trial of cross over office.. but i dont know how to install it.. i tried follow some directions i found on the ubuntu forums.. but thye didnt work
[05:28] <tipnmo> i typed sh install install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh
[05:28] <DrBair> tipnmo:  did you chmod +x the file?
[05:28] <nickrud> ElitePete, at this point, I have no clue. I'd drop out of x, move .gconf out of the way, and try again.
[05:28] <tipnmo> drbair: i didnt not... i dont know what chmod is
[05:28] <jessemans> tipnmo: just try "sh install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh"
[05:29] <jordo23_> Does anyone know the default wallpaper location for Ubuntu's Gnome?
[05:29] <DrBair> tipnmo:  do a man chmod for more info on it.  basically it changes permissions of stuff
[05:29] <jessemans> tipnmo: no "install" qualifier
[05:29] <tipnmo> install is part of the file name
[05:29] <jessemans> tipnmo: you have install in there twice
[05:29] <ardchoille> jordo23_: /usr/share/backgrounds ?
[05:29] <tipnmo> drbair: ok i am going to try sh install-crossover-standard-demo-5.0.0.sh
[05:30] <tipnmo> drbair: and it worked
[05:30] <tipnmo> thanks
[05:30] <jessemans> tipnmo: ownage
[05:30] <jessemans> tipnmo: any time you want to run a *.sh, all it needs is a sh in front ... usually
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> kfuryedytduyoi
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> khklj
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> jihik
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> hkjjh
[05:31] <Squee-D> I set up my network card in /etc/network/interfaces and im sure that the right module is loaded (8139too) and the interface shows as up.. yet i cant ping any other machines.
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> llllllllllllllllll
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> plol
[05:31] <abdul> does xmms play wmv?
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> ??????????????????????///////////
[05:31] <Squee-D> short of a suddenly dead network cable, is there somthething i can check ?
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> kjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhiutcd56de87i
[05:31] <ce_14thn_jomblo> 11111111111111111111111
[05:31] <ElitePete> c3
[05:32] <ElitePete> ce* stop spamming
[05:32] <Krhis> ce_14thn_jomblo, yes, we can see your text. It's working.
[05:32] <Krhis> Thank you.
[05:32] <ElitePete> indeed.
[05:32] <abdul> nickrud, does XMMS play .wmv?
[05:33] <ElitePete> abdul, i believe xms plays everything with the right codec
[05:33] <nickrud> abdul, I'm not sure but I think so. I don't have any .wmv's
[05:33] <nickrud> !freeformats
[05:33] <ubotu> freeformats is, like, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:34] <abdul> i need a codec i quess because its not playing
[05:34] <abdul> how do i install a codec?
[05:34] <ElitePete> sudo apt-get install w32 codecs
[05:34] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[05:34] <Phoenix1701> Looks like one keyboard in particular, plugged into the PS2 adapter, actually works.
[05:34] <ubuntu_newbie> how do i install .deb packages?
[05:34] <Phoenix1701> So yay.
[05:34] <nickrud> abdul, those are for mplayer, which does play wmv's
[05:35] <bimberi> ubuntu_newbie: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[05:35] <ElitePete> ^ what he said
[05:35] <Phoenix1701> bimberi: Can't you also do that through the GUI?
[05:35] <ubuntu_newbie> thanx
[05:35] <gp_aaron> anyone know if the iRiver PMC120 works with ubuntu?
[05:35] <nickrud> Phoenix1701, not yet, but dapper will have an app that can
[05:35] <Phoenix1701> Oh?  Hm.  I thought Aptitude could.
[05:35] <bimberi> Phoenix1701: not that i know of
[05:36] <Phoenix1701> Curious.  May need to reread the docs.
[05:36] <nickrud> Phoenix1701, not a stray deb like that, only ones that exist in a repo
[05:36] <Hentai^XP> anyone know a good networking diagram tool for free?
[05:36] <nalioth> _jason: may i help you?
[05:36] <abdul> it wont let me install them
[05:36] <bimberi> alt-f2 (run in terminal) perhaps
[05:37] <nickrud> abdul, what won't let you install what?
[05:39] <abdul> terminal, im trying that stuff the link you gave me told me to do
[05:39] <abdul> it says : no such file or directory
[05:39] <intelikey> E PPP daemon has died (exit code = 4)     code 4 is ppp not supported by the kernel ?  what am i missing here?
[05:39] <Phoenix1701> Hentai^XP: How about Dia?
[05:39] <Hentai^XP> DIA?
[05:39] <Hentai^XP> have a url for it?
[05:39] <Phoenix1701> Yup.  http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/ <-- Dia.
[05:40] <rhoffaa> whats good for burning .iso images with linux
[05:40] <ryan> rhoffaa: using gnome?
[05:41] <rhoffaa> ye
[05:41] <ardchoille> rhoffaa: you can use graveman or k3b
[05:41] <intelikey> anyone else on dialup ?    could you do a 'lsmod | grep ppp '  for me and tell me the name of the modules loaded for ppp  ?
[05:41] <bimberi> rhoffaa: nautilus (right-click, write-to cd/dvd)
[05:41] <ryan> right click on the iso file,and select "write to disc"
[05:41] <Hentai^XP> ok Phoenix1701  that will do  seeing it has a win bin
[05:41] <ryan> bimberi's quicker ;)
[05:41] <Phoenix1701> Er, you're on Windows?
[05:41] <Hentai^XP> Phoenix1701: yes
[05:41] <rhoffaa> is nautilus already on gnome?
[05:41] <bimberi> but ryan is more correct i think (disc not cd/dvd) :)
[05:41] <rhoffaa> ubuntu
[05:41] <ryan> rhoffaa its the filemanager
[05:41] <Phoenix1701> So...  dare I ask, why ask in #ubuntu?  :)
[05:42] <ryan> just go to your homefolder or wherever your iso is
[05:42] <Hentai^XP> Phoenix1701: hang out place
[05:42] <Phoenix1701> Fair enough.  :)
[05:42] <ryan> i just finished successfully burning a dvd movie with nautilus, after i made the iso with mkisofs -dvd-video :)
[05:43] <ryan> plays on my home player and everything :D
[05:43] <Phoenix1701> Now, if you were using Mac, I'd recommend OmniGraffle instead.
[05:43] <Phoenix1701> But I don't know of anything for Windows that approaches that.
[05:43] <bimberi> ryan: did you have to shrink it?
[05:43] <intelikey> testing brb
[05:43] <Hentai^XP> Phoenix1701:  also collect info
[05:43] <Phoenix1701> Ah?  For what?
[05:44] <ryan> bimberi: nope
[05:44] <Howi> What's so good about KDE?  Should I switch to it?  Torvalds says we should here- http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/13/1340215&from=rss
[05:44] <ryan> the movie was only 4.4g as is
[05:44] <Hentai^XP> Phoenix1701:  anything
[05:44] <bimberi> ryan: k :)
[05:44] <nickrud> abdul, sorry I was gone for a bit. Which file?
[05:44] <Hentai^XP> Phoenix1701:  anything that I come across that might be useful to me
[05:44] <Phoenix1701> Howi: KDE and Gnome are just two different answers to the same question.  I kind of prefer KDE, but a lot of people like Gnome better.
[05:45] <Phoenix1701> Short answer, try both and see which you prefer.
[05:45] <Khisanth> neither!
[05:45] <ryan> bimberi: haven't tried dual layer discs if thats what you mean
[05:45] <n0dl> use openbox!
[05:45] <nickrud> Howi, there are some interesting comments on http://planet.gnome.org
[05:45] <Howi> Ah
[05:45] <Howi> Thanks nickrud
[05:46] <abdul> w32codecs or w/e
[05:46] <bimberi> ryan: no, i've um ripped a DVD and found it to be much bigger than 4.5G, hence the need to shrink to back it up
[05:46] <nickrud> abdul, did you download the file to your desktop?
[05:47] <ryan> bimberi: tried dual layer?
[05:47] <abdul> which file?
[05:47] <ryan>         wireless-essid slipgate
[05:47] <ryan>         wireless-key 34ef2348f8234fa987ed987af9
[05:47] <bimberi> ryan: no, not yet
[05:47] <ryan> ignore :)
[05:47] <nickrud> abdul, w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:47] <ryan> bimberi: hehe
[05:47] <abdul> from?
[05:48] <ryan> i don't think anyone around here even knows what wifi is ;)
[05:48] <ryan> and if they do, woops better change the mostly-useless key :p
[05:48] <bimberi> :)
[05:48] <nickrud> abdul, there's a link on the page wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, with some very terse instructions
[05:49] <bur[n] er> anyone knwo where to get flash8?
[05:49] <nickrud> bur[n] er, on windows I believe
[05:49] <bur[n] er> nickrud: harhar
[05:49] <Squee-D> ryan yeah im thinking limiting connection by MAC is more effective on its own than a WEP key
[05:49] <Squee-D> bur[n] er hes not jokin
[05:50] <nickrud> bur[n] er, seriously, is there supposed to be a beta out there (I'd be suprised)
[05:50] <Squee-D> flash 7 player is the highest still for linux afaik
[05:50] <bur[n] er> oh... i see, i just checked out macromedia
[05:50] <bur[n] er> sad, there's a lil flash game that requires 8 i wanna play ;)
[05:50] <abdul> hmm
[05:50] <bur[n] er> silly adobe
[05:50] <Squee-D> adobemedia
[05:50] <Squee-D> or macrobe
[05:51] <bur[n] er> i think it's just adobe ;)
[05:51] <Squee-D> yeah i know, but i hate this merger
[05:51] <bur[n] er> y?
[05:52] <jessemans> macrobe! rofl!
[05:52] <jessemans> sounds like microbe </end offtopic>
[05:52] <Squee-D> because adobe don't know web. And already theyre suggesting a combined pdf-reader/flash-player
[05:52] <Squee-D> ooh ditto
[05:53] <Krhis> ^^ No flash for me then?
[05:53] <akp> can use flash 8 in ubuntu with ie : http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[05:53] <Squee-D> that supports activex?
[05:54] <akp> i think so
[05:54] <Squee-D> id be suprised
[05:54] <akp> what is the link to the game, I'll test it
[05:54] <Squee-D> i'd think you would have better luck with wine
[05:55] <akp> its an ie on wine installer, Its recommended by winehq
[05:55] <nickrud> Krhis, take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, there's some info on flash on 64bits there, but it's iffy.
[05:56] <Krhis> Yes, I'm aware of it... but thank you nickrud.
[05:56] <Squee-D> oh i see
[05:56] <Squee-D> well yeah may have some luck :)
[05:56] <Krhis> Flash for me is just another rant. ^^
[05:56] <nickrud> Krhis, then, why did you ask ... oh, I see, I have my own rants
[05:56] <Krhis> I try to help here in #ubuntu.
[05:57] <Krhis> I also dual boot with Gentoo, 'nuff said.
[05:57] <newbc> i am looking for a all around great book for linux for christmas and recomended "The Linux Administration Handbook", would you guys agree or should i wait until the 2nd ed comes out, or maybe some other reference
[05:57] <Squee-D> im having a hell time with my network config.
[05:57] <nickrud> well gee, I used to quad boot different lfs versions, but I got wiser :)
[05:58] <Squee-D> I cannot ping the router or any other machines on my network
[05:58] <Krhis> XD
[05:58] <ejofee> what's wrong with timidity in ubuntu?
[05:58] <newbc> anyone?
[05:58] <Squee-D> eth0 is up, and configured correctly as best i can tell
[05:58] <varsendagger> ejofee, what do you mean?
[05:58] <bimberi> newbc: is that an O'Reilly title.  They're usually very good.  Linux in a Nutshell is another
[05:59] <bimberi> ?
[05:59] <nickrud> newbc, I'd suggest the linux cookbook, it's not really a guide but it has a *lot* of great tidbits
[05:59] <ilba7r> squee-d do you have a firewall
[05:59] <newbc> no its not an oreilly title
[05:59] <newbc> its by evi nemeth
[05:59] <bimberi> newbc: k, i don't know it
[06:00] <jrattner1> Is the new firefox in the repositories?
[06:00] <mrkoje> jrattner1,  no
[06:00] <Squee-D> lib no - iptables is empty with ACCEPT for each default
[06:00] <Krhis> "Linux Desktop Hacks" another good O'Reilly book IMO.
[06:01] <bimberi> !firefox15
[06:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[06:01] <newbc> i was hoping to get more of an "All-In-ONe" title
[06:01] <Krhis> I see what you mean.
[06:01] <ilba7r> bimberi just downlad it from  mozilla it will be up and running no installation needed
[06:02] <newbc> and not like a "heres red hat and this is how you install it, oh and some commands over here" kind of book
[06:02] <newbc> lol ya know
[06:02] <Krhis> I figured a christmas present, so somthing focused towards the Desktop user.
[06:02] <Krhis> I see what you mean now.
[06:03] <ilba7r> squee-d did you put your router address in the DNS server list?
[06:03] <bob_4_a_day> well i got the blamed thang on line.... hmmm now what
[06:03] <newbc> no but, to develop and exstensive knowledge of the kernel
[06:03] <Krhis> Can't give many suggestions then... I live off of man pages. XD
[06:03] <newbc> i dunno ahah maybe this book i am speaking of does not exist
[06:04] <nickrud> newbc, have you cruised the orielly site? There's a kernel book they have, but I think it's a bit old
[06:04] <bob_4_a_day> anyone know how to remove the timestamp and change the nick colour in irssi ?
[06:04] <Krhis> I did see a book the otherday in the store. Had every line of the kernel printed out and comments/suggestions to it.
[06:05] <bimberi> ilba7r: thanks. (although i did raise the factoid for jrattner1) :)
[06:06] <ilba7r> bimberi just copy the plugins from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins to the folder you will use for firefox5 this way everything will work fine
[06:06] <Knowerrors> Hey all, trying to get ntpdate to work, tried sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com 14 Dec 21:02:28 ntpdate[4260] : no server suitable for synchronization found, any ideas to fix?
[06:06] <Aviatrixie> hi all
[06:06] <Krhis> Hello, Aviatrixie.
[06:06] <nickrud> Knowerrors, i think it's ntp.ubuntulinux.org you want to try
[06:06] <bob_4_a_day> Krhis: "every line of the kernel printed out"  297kg of paper ?
[06:07] <Aviatrixie> Well... I took the plunge tonight... stuck a spare 20g hg in my pc. I must say... Ubuntu is well done.  :)
[06:07] <ilba7r> oh sorry bimberi did not see that take care friend :)
[06:07] <tritium> woohoo, we're getting a spaceport!
[06:08] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: pool.ntp.org
[06:08] <Aviatrixie> for the moment my only os is ubuntu
[06:08] <bimberi> ilba7r: no problem whatsoever :)
[06:08] <Krhis> Yes, in font size 4 too.
[06:08] <nalioth> tritium: you DO have lots of space out there, lol
[06:08] <nickrud> bob_4_a_day, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576104699/102-6188714-6766525?v=glance&n=283155
[06:08] <Krhis> ... I'm joking.
[06:08] <bimberi> tritium: Virgin Galactic?
[06:08] <tritium> nalioth: that's true ;)
[06:08] <tritium> bimberi: yes
[06:08] <Krhis> Yep, that's it.
[06:08] <Squee-D> ilba7r yes i did
[06:08] <Squee-D> but i cant even ping the router
[06:08] <Knowerrors> nickrud: bob_4_a_day , both of those say no sutiable server for sync found
[06:09] <nickrud> Knowerrors, I don't know the problem, but that's what my ntpdate is using
[06:09] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: then the error is on your box.
[06:09] <ejofee> my home folder is a symlink to my older home folder (from another partition). bash seems to detect this and expands the symlink into the physical path, which i hate. why does it behave like this in ubuntu and how can i change this?
[06:09] <ilba7r> squee-d than i have no idea except the regular check for ifconfig to see if your configuration is correct
[06:09] <bimberi> tritium: ah, that spaceport. :)
[06:10] <_jason> ejofee, why not just mount your old home folder as /home?
[06:10] <Squee-D> ilba7r yeah it looks perfect. blowing my mind
[06:10] <ejofee> _jason: how can i mount... a dir?!
[06:10] <tritium> bimberi: :)
[06:10] <ejofee> _jason: it is not a whole partition, it is just a dir!
[06:10] <_jason> ejofee, ah sorry thought you had a similar setup to mine
[06:10] <Knowerrors> bob_4_a_day: so "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org" should work from command line?
[06:10] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: yessir
[06:10] <Knowerrors> arrgh
[06:10] <kevinix> hi, i have an unusual problem. xine and totem-xine only run if i am online. it just segfaults otherwise.
[06:11] <ejofee> _jason: yes, i myself am considering using a whole partition as a home partition
[06:11] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: firewall ?
[06:11] <Knowerrors> just the one that comes with breezy bob_4_a_day
[06:11] <kevinix> when i start xine while online, i'm given the err, "there is no MRL", indicating that xine is looking for an MRL by default. anyway to turn this off?
[06:12] <TraceGreen> Hello, does anyone  know how to disable mouse and keyboard except pull out the plug?
[06:13] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  what do you mean by "except pull out the plug"?
[06:14] <TraceGreen> mrkoje, well, when i pull out the plug of mouse, of course mouse is useless.
[06:14] <Squee-D> he means 'in software'
[06:14] <varsendagger> Aviatrixie, what all do you like?
[06:14] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: if you have activated iptables via firestarter you may have the ntp port blocked.  i just snyced my clock with 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc '   it works  and using the "pool." you always hit a server.
[06:15] <TraceGreen> Squee-D, yeah.
[06:15] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  You want, of course, to enable it and disable it through software
[06:15] <TraceGreen> yeah, mrkoje :-)
[06:16] <Aviatrixie> varsendagger... in ubuntu? I like that it found everything in my system.
[06:16] <Knowerrors> bob_4_a_day: you know how to unblock that port?
[06:16] <Aviatrixie> Well... except I don't think it knows what the USB to my UPS is for.  ;)
[06:16] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  Hmm...  I don't really know
[06:17] <ejofee> w3m is cool. hadn't heard of it before ubuntu.
[06:17] <Krhis> Motherboard option perhaps?
[06:17] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  You could probably stop the kernal from loading the mouse driver...
[06:17] <TraceGreen> mrkoje, well, i once try to unload modules of them, but i can't unload usbcore.
[06:17] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  so its a usb mouse... hmm
[06:17] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: i don't even know for sure what port it uses.  i thought it was 25 but that doesn't seem to be it.....  sorry no.
[06:17] <TraceGreen> mrkoje, yeah
[06:17] <Mike> I've got a quick question for whoever has time to help out. I have a laptop with wireless, and I can't get internet to work wirelessly, I am currrently running in windows to be online now. would anyone know how to get my wireless card to work?
[06:18] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  well your not going to want to stop usb anyway... maybe search for some 3rd party software...
[06:18] <kevinix> ejofee, apt-get install w3m-img to be able to view web images in the shell. nice ;)
[06:18] <TraceGreen> mrkoje, do you mean i can't unload usb mouse driver?
[06:18] <alamba> mike: whats the laptop model?
[06:19] <ejofee> kevinix: wow!! thanks!
[06:19] <rohan> hi all
[06:19] <bob_4_a_day> Knowerrors: you could drop the firewall and sync your clock  'sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop ' maybe.
[06:19] <_RocH> it takes forever to install on celeron 377 / 64MB..
[06:19] <Mike> Compaq HP Presario V4000
[06:19] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  You probably could probably stop the mouse from loading by passing somthing into the boot argument
[06:19] <Knowerrors> bob_4_a_day: thx, will try
[06:19] <mrkoje> TraceGreen,  I just don't know enough about what you want to pass as an argument to stop the mouse from loading
[06:19] <rohan> when will the ubuntu dapper preview be out ? is there some kind of a roadmap out there ?
[06:19] <ejofee> kevinix: it seems it's w3m-img is not in any repo :(
[06:20] <kevinix> ejofee, hmm, shame
[06:20] <alamba> mike: do you have a button that says wireless or on top or has the wireless symbol...
[06:20] <nalioth> rohan: there is a dapper build available now (flight-1)
[06:20] <rohan> nalioth: flight-2 is out :)
[06:20] <mrkoje> !wifi
[06:20] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:20] <Amaranth> flight 2 is out, actually
[06:20] <polpak> nalioth, actually flight2 is out
[06:20] <warreng> anybody know where i could get an animated GIF of the default ubuntu "waiting" cursor? or how to convert the xcursor /usr/share/icons/Human/cursors/watch to an animated gif?
[06:20] <TraceGreen> mrkoje, thanks.
[06:20] <mrkoje> ubotu tell Mike about !wifi
[06:20] <rohan> nalioth: bu i am kinda waiting for something more reliable, like a preview release ...
[06:20] <rohan> *but
[06:20] <nalioth> rohan: see? you are more up to date than i am.
[06:20] <Amaranth> mrkoje: no !
[06:20] <Mike> yes, that and volume control; the buttons do not appear to work
[06:20] <rohan> nalioth: lol.
[06:21] <Mike> and I have tried pushing that, but there was no effect
[06:21] <polpak> rohan, you'll have to wait a bit longer then
[06:21] <mrkoje> Amaranth, ?
[06:21] <phosphoricx> hey guys, quick question, how can I setup LD_LIBRARY_PATH to be set on startup?
[06:21] <bob_4_a_day> whats the url to the hoary multiverse ?
[06:21] <polpak> rohan, ubuntu is on a 6 month release cycle
[06:21] <alamba> ok...here's your solution...boot into ubuntu...click on system>admin>networking
[06:21] <largos> does anyone know what package I can find all the gcc man pages in? (eg: man malloc)
[06:21] <mrkoje> Amaranth, I'm not sure....
[06:21] <Amaranth> mrkoje: 'ubuntu tell Mike about !wifi' shouldn't have that !
[06:21] <polpak> phosphoricx,  why would you want to? (just curious)
[06:21] <alamba> click on the wireless link and click activate...then press that button...twice...the wireless light will come on and the link will get activated
[06:22] <BenC> largos: they are libc manpages, not gcc, and it's manpages-dev
[06:22] <alamba> assuming you have DHCP u will also get ip now
[06:22] <rohan> polpak: right. but what i am really looking for is a roadmap
[06:22] <ejofee> kevinix: in fact, it is :)) (took a better look)
[06:22] <largos> BenC: ah, thanks
[06:22] <nalioth> largos: manpages-dev  ?
[06:22] <mrkoje> Amaranth,  no !?
[06:22] <mrkoje> ubotu tell Mike about wifi
[06:22] <Mike> thank you alamba
[06:22] <alamba> i have an HP laptop too and this seems to be a problem
[06:22] <mrkoje> Amaranth,
[06:22] <alamba> u're welcome
[06:22] <Mike> oh, I see
[06:23] <Amaranth> mrkoje: should have worked that time
[06:23] <swim> hey folks I forgot what package has all the apps for building apps from source?
[06:23] <Aviatrixie> so... I've commited to Ubuntu. Geez... sounds like I'm getting married! Anyway... I'm fed up with M$... put my big hd aside and dedicated a whole drive to Ubuntu.Googled it to death and now have it configured. Now the fun begins... I have to learn how to apt-get!!! Or... at least how to Synaptic?
[06:23] <mrkoje> Amaranth,  ya... I haven't used the ubotu as much as i should be
[06:23] <mrkoje> !beer
[06:23] <polpak> swim, build-essential
[06:23] <swim> thx polpak
[06:23] <ilba7r> swim build-sessentials
[06:23] <mrkoje> lol
[06:23] <swim> cheers :)
[06:23] <polpak> Aviatrixie, welcome in =)
[06:24] <bob_4_a_day> ilba7r: no s
[06:24] <polpak> Aviatrixie, I gave up on MS 4 months ago. Haven't looked back
[06:24] <Aviatrixie> danke polpak
[06:24] <_cedric> i i have a kubuntu cd... but i prefere gnome i dont want to download a whole ubuntu cd again... is there a way to make a server installation then add gnome... a little bit the kind of process we need to go trough to get xubuntu
[06:24] <Amaranth> hrm, i thought it hugged back
[06:24] <ilba7r> too sleepy sorry bob_4_a_day :)
[06:24] <Amaranth> _cedric: sure, boot the CD with the server option
[06:24] <bob_4_a_day> oh crap.   i'm lagging 20 seconds..... never mind me.
[06:24] <Mike> ok, thank you to alamba, ubotu, and mrkoje
[06:24] <nalioth> _cedric: yes, server + "ubuntu-desktop" will do it
[06:24] <Aviatrixie> I've delved deep into linux in the last few months.... like it bunches
[06:24] <Amaranth> _cedric: You'll have to download a bunch of stuff still
[06:24] <_cedric> np
[06:25] <mrkoje> Mike, have fun.... especially if you have wpa!
[06:25] <Aviatrixie> Linus seems to like KDE over Gnome.... any opinions?
[06:25] <bob_4_a_day> be back later.
[06:25] <polpak> Aviatrixie, anyway, apt-get and/or synaptic is easy
[06:25] <mrkoje> Mike,  thats what I am working on now... the wpasupplicant
[06:25] <_cedric> same process as xubuntu-desktop but with ubuntu-desktop if i correctly understand
[06:25] <polpak> Aviatrixie, it's really personal taste.
[06:25] <nalioth> Aviatrixie: in #ubuntu-offtopic with your opinions query, please
[06:25] <polpak> Aviatrixie, the whole "Linus prefers KDE" thing is way overblown
[06:25] <mrkoje> !wpa
[06:25] <ubotu> from memory, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[06:25] <Aviatrixie> polpak... I'm sure they are. But I'm a total newbie.
[06:26] <polpak> Aviatrixie, I'd just stick with Gnome for now. It'll be most familiar to you coming from a windows environment
[06:26] <polpak> but that's just my opinion
[06:26] <alamba> whats the wpasupplicant?
[06:27] <Aviatrixie> polpak... I think you're right. I like keeping it simple for now.
[06:27] <polpak> Aviatrixie, you can always switch later if you want. That's the great thing about linux
[06:27] <polpak> You have choices
[06:27] <_cedric> hey! i heard a new development release is up...
[06:27] <_cedric> final release should be out on april?
[06:28] <polpak> _cedric, that sounds about right
[06:28] <cafuego> mrkoje: Simply install wpasupplicant, run wpa_passwd and save the output to the cfg file.
[06:28] <nalioth> _cedric: there'll be a final release every 6 months
[06:28] <sethk> Aviatrixie, I'm addicted to the alt-right button mouse command in KDE
[06:28] <sethk> Aviatrixie, although there may be a way to get that behavior from gnome
[06:28] <cafuego> _cedric: Yes. That prerelease fails to boot on my iBook.
[06:28] <_cedric> how cool is that
[06:28] <_cedric> nyway out for installation!
[06:28] <sethk> Aviatrixie, I don't feel that gnome is better (nor worse) for a newbie than kde
[06:28] <mrkoje> cafuego,  I don't have the laptop up and running at the moment... I will do it later. i do remember doing that once.. from the "howto" however it didn't like my psk
[06:29] <mrkoje> cafuego,  oh well... will give it another go around
[06:29] <mrkoje> cafuego,  in the future
[06:29] <phosphoricx> any ideas on the environmental variable on startup?
[06:29] <mrkoje> !acpi
[06:29] <ubotu> mrkoje: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <sethk> phosphoricx, I didn't hear the question, what was it?
[06:30] <nickrud> phosphoricx, I have some ideas about some of them, which one are you thinking of?
[06:30] <phosphoricx> I want to add an environment variable to my startup
[06:30] <phosphoricx> it's LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[06:30] <phosphoricx> just wondering which file
[06:30] <phosphoricx> to put it in
[06:30] <nickrud> phosphoricx, .bash_profile or /etc/profile
[06:30] <phosphoricx> when does that get called?
[06:31] <dashoffen> Hi, Just wondering Has anyone been able to get hardware acceleration to work with a Radeon 9800 and Ubunu 5.10?
[06:31] <polpak> phosphoricx, when you log in.. But why did you want it set?
[06:31] <polpak> dashoffen, yes
[06:31] <Mike> ok, thanks to everyone again for the help, I gotta get going. see ya later
[06:32] <polpak> dashoffen, did you follow the ATI portion of the getting started wiki?
[06:32] <Aviatrixie> Seth... sorry... was afk... at this point I have no opinions about kde or gnome.... tho I do like fluxbox. Understand... I'm a total newbie... but I'm also a fast study.
[06:32] <aztek> how do i go about booting the stock kernel for ubuntu
[06:32] <dashoffen> ? no
[06:32] <nickrud> aztek, just boot, the stock kernel is the default boot
[06:32] <Squee-D2> he means 'in software'
[06:32] <Squee-D2> err apologies - two keyboards on the desk
[06:33] <Kyral> #ubuntu never sleeps lol
[06:33] <polpak> dashoffen, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[06:33] <phosphoricx> polpak, because I'm using amd64 and I need to pull some libs out of chroot to run it
[06:34] <aztek> nickrud: i installed the newest ati drivers and the instructions i followed said it would create changes to the kernel. is there a way to tell whether or not i'm running a stock one?
[06:34] <dashoffen> polpak, thank you
[06:34] <etybolik> quick question. Is it possible to get sound in flash (or google video to be specific)
[06:34] <etybolik> ?
[06:35] <polpak> aztek, why not just use the ati driver wiki instructions in the getting started guide?
[06:35] <polpak> dashoffen, np
[06:35] <nickrud> !ati
[06:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:35] <haffe> Hello. Does anyone here now how to setup dri support for the mach64?
[06:36] <swim> could anyone tell me the name of the package for x includes?
[06:36] <nickrud> aztek, I don't use ati, but I've heard reliable sources say you should use the new ati ones, if you have a laptop (if I recall correctly)
[06:36] <Amaranth> haffe: err, i don't think you can
[06:36] <tritium> swim: xlibs-dev
[06:36] <Amaranth> haffe: I've never even heard of that arch :P
[06:36] <swim> thx tritium
[06:37] <nalioth> !xincludes
[06:37] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[06:37] <aztek> i downloaded the fresh ones from ati it didn't seem to work. x doesn't start so i redid my xorg.conf to boot the "ati" driver now i seem to have performance problems where none existed prior to trying to install the drivers. i guess i'm trying to just start over. wow that's long.
[06:37] <techrush> ati 3d acceleration is such a pain to get working in linux :(
[06:37] <TheOmnipotentWan> Hey...I accidentally removed my system tray from a panel...Can anyone tell me how to put it back?  I went through the 'Add to Panel" menu and didn't see anything that looked right.
[06:37] <aztek> so i'm discoverin
[06:37] <aztek> g
[06:37] <polpak> techrush, I haven't found that to be true
[06:38] <tritium> ubotu's xincludes info is odd, since xlibs-dev already depends on xlibs-static-dev
[06:38] <polpak> techrush, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver pretty much worked right out of the box for my ATI Radeon 9800
[06:38] <techrush> polpak you havent had the joy of tryign to get my 3d crd working then :P
[06:38] <Aviatrixie> Funny... my ATI was set up without any probs in ubuntu
[06:38] <aztek> i guess you're just smarter than us
[06:39] <techrush> mine hasnt worked right in 3 diff distros
[06:39] <sethk> phosphoricx, add the definition to $HOME/.bashrc
[06:39] <sethk> phosphoricx, if you use bash as your shell
[06:39] <sethk> phosphoricx, if you want to add it for multiple users, you can set it an initialization file in /etc
[06:39] <nickrud> and xlibs-dev is just a subset of x-window-system-dev
[06:39] <polpak> Aviatrixie, did you follow the wicki? or do you not have DRI enabled?
[06:40] <nderjm> Has anyone gotten the Canon i250 to work in Breezy?
[06:40] <phosphoricx> sethk, that sounds good
[06:41] <nderjm> I guess thats a no
[06:41] <nderjm> The forums were of no help
[06:41] <nderjm> dead threads
[06:41] <lacking> When I try to play Totem I get Video codec 'MS WMV 8 (win32)' is not handled. What does this mean?
[06:41] <polpak> !restricted
[06:41] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:41] <ElitePete> lacking have you installed all the video codecs?
[06:41] <polpak> lacking, read the wiki ubotu mentioned
[06:42] <Aviatrixie> No... I'm not smarter than you. I'm here because this distro works on my PC. Mepis didn't. Mandrake didn't. Linspire didn't. DSL did (sorta) and Beatrix did well (it's an Ubuntu offshoot) but it wouldn't install. Ubuntu worked perfectly from the start.
[06:42] <sethk> nderjm, what are you working on?
[06:42] <nickrud> lacking, you're using the gstreamer version of totem; install totem-xine and do that restricted page
[06:42] <polpak> Aviatrixie, you should install your drivers if you intend on playing any games
[06:42] <lacking> Yeh I followed the faqs music and movies section ElitePete.
[06:42] <nderjm> sethk: Im trying to get a Canon i250 printer working on Breezy
[06:42] <sethk> nderjm, usb?
[06:42] <ElitePete> lacking, weird..
[06:43] <nderjm> sethk: yes
[06:43] <sethk> nderjm, what problem are you seeing?
[06:43] <Aviatrixie> polpak... I don't play games. Well... occasionally solitaire.
[06:43] <nderjm> sethk: after the drivers install and the printer is detected and setup it does not print.  The most I have gotten is a blink.
[06:43] <nickrud> lacking, that section of the faq is not exactly prime, but I think it has been fixed for dapper
[06:44] <polpak> Aviatrixie, well no time like the present to start ;)
[06:44] <gnude> Trying to apt-get a new package (deb) on ubuntu.  How do I specify a particular package?
[06:44] <sethk> nderjm, when you install the printer, does it show a line in the usb ports list with the name of the printer in it?
[06:44] <Aviatrixie> lol
[06:44] <lacking> nickrud, dapper?
[06:44] <sethk> nderjm, in the part of the config where you choose the printer connection?
[06:44] <nickrud> gnude, sudo apt-get install <package name>
[06:44] <nickrud> lacking, the next release
[06:44] <newbc> when people get binary source code, what do they actually do with it?
[06:44] <nderjm> sethk: Yes.  Canon i250 and Canon i250 with feedback
[06:44] <lacking> ah ok.
[06:44] <gnude> nickrud,  where do I put the package I want to inst.
[06:45] <gnude> does it matter
[06:45] <polpak> newbc, binary source code?
[06:45] <nickrud> lacking, sudo apt-get install totem-xine , then do the w32codecs on the restricted page.
[06:45] <sethk> nderjm, will it print on the same machine running windows?
[06:45] <polpak> newbc, a contradiction in terms
[06:45] <newbc> sorry, just i dont understand what it means to release a binary of something
[06:45] <TheOmnipotentWan> I accidentally removed the system tray from a panel.  I went through the add to panel window but didn't see anything.  Anyone know how I can get it back?
[06:45] <nickrud> gnude, the package already knows where it will be installed
[06:45] <newbc> how can a human make use of that
[06:45] <tritium> gnude: you know that we don't allow gnudity here, right?
[06:45] <Aviatrixie> polpak... I came mostly to lurk. I'm extremely happy with 5.10 so far. It's a really well done os.
[06:45] <gnude> newbc, you get the source to compile the binary.  It works great and gives you a chance to modify the source code to fit your needs.
[06:45] <nderjm> sethk: Dont have windows on it.  But it works with the TurboPrint drivers.  but those are not free.  the demo version prints a huge watermark in the middle of the page
[06:45] <polpak> newbc, a binary is program which has been compiled from source to run on a particular archetecture
[06:46] <aztek> gnude, are you trying to install a package you have as a file on your machine?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> How can I make Firefox start up to a particular profile if none is specified, rather than the last one used?
[06:46] <sethk> nderjm, ok, that proves out the hardware and USB compatibility
[06:46] <nderjm> sethk: yup
[06:46] <gnude> aztek,  yeah, it's newer than repository for synaptic, and i downloaded it.
[06:46] <gnude> aztek,  yeah it's on my box
[06:47] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, firefox -P profile
[06:47] <gnude> tritium,  I am totally decent
[06:47] <sethk> nderjm, what I would do, although it takes a while to do it, is to sniff the USB bus while it is printing with the turboprint drivers.  Then sniff when printing with the cups driver (free), and compare the streams.
[06:47] <newbc> k makes sense, so the source to (for example a c++ program) can be written and compiled into machine code, is there a backwards compatability to binary?
[06:47] <DShepherd> hey
[06:47] <DShepherd> sup?
[06:47] <newbc> in that, can i take a binary and make it a readable language
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: So do I need to change the launchers to include the switch?
[06:47] <tritium> gnude: :)
[06:47] <gnude> newbc,  no binaries, which is all apps except scripts are human readible unless your a psycho brain.
[06:48] <nderjm> sethk: How would I do that?
[06:48] <aztek> gnude, then you want to use dpkg if that's the case
[06:48] <polpak> newbc, C and C++ source code is compiled into machine language. It's compatable so long as the machine language remains compatible
[06:48] <gnude> aztek,  just a dpkg -i pkgname?
[06:48] <sethk> nderjm, I'm looking back through my notes.  I was about a year ago that I set up USB bus sniffing.
[06:48] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, yes, I would think so. firefox --help will tell you some other stuff you might want to know
[06:48] <aztek> gnude, yeah if you have the .deb file on your pc. apt-get is only going to scan the online repositories
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Okay, thanks.
[06:48] <newbc> are there people who can legitimatly read binary
[06:48] <sethk> nderjm, one time I talked a USB bus analyzer vendor into leaving me a hardware sniffer for a few days to evaluate.  :)
[06:49] <polpak> newbc, but it is very difficult to make changes to in binary form
[06:49] <newbc> not just like the simple number structures
[06:49] <sethk> newbc  11  000  101   01010  001   111101
[06:49] <gnude> aztek,  is there a basic way to over-ride the locations of dependencies that the package will need, since I have some CVS stuff I'm running too.
[06:49] <phosphoricx> sethk, how can I setup an initialization file in /etc ?
[06:49] <gnude> aztek,  thanks for the clar. vis apt-get
[06:49] <nderjm> sethk: ok.  i noticed one difference between the turbo print and the regular driver.  Turns out the TP driver is printing to ipp://usb://Canon/i250
[06:49] <tritium> newbc: as they say, there are only 10 kinds of people
[06:49] <gnude> sethk,  you are cussing again in binary you dirty.
[06:50] <nderjm> sethk: but the free driver still doesnt work when i set it to use that
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: What do the % things mean?  (As in, firefox %u, what my launcher says now.)  Those aren't in the help.
[06:50] <aztek> gnude, uh i dunno :) i just started using Ubuntu on my laptop since FreeBSD isn't as user friendly on the go :)
[06:50] <sethk> nderjm, that uri doesn't really make sense to me.  I doubt that's relevant.
[06:50] <nderjm> sethk: that uri is for network printing
[06:50] <sethk> tonyyarusso, that's a substitution
[06:50] <nderjm> sethk: seems to work over usb
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: For?
[06:50] <gnude> aztek, I'll try thanks let you know.
[06:50] <DShepherd> hey nderjm!
[06:50] <sethk> tonyyarusso, in that case, I believe %u is replaced with the user name
[06:51] <aztek> gnude, man dpkg :)
[06:51] <sethk> nderjm, ok, but as you said it doesn't change the behavior.  I said it didn't make sense to _me_, not that it doesn't make sense at all.
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Ah.  Do you know what %s is, or where I could find a list of these?
[06:51] <derekS> if evolution-data-server crashed, how i start it back up again?
[06:51] <sethk> tonyyarusso, let me see if I can put my fingers on a list.  It's burried in the docs somewhere.
[06:51] <gnude> =|
[06:52] <Aviatrixie> Well... I guess I should go. Polpak... are you an op here?
[06:52] <polpak> Aviatrixie, nope
[06:52] <DShepherd> nderjm: you presenting any topic tomorrow?
[06:52] <polpak> Aviatrixie, but I'm around a bit
[06:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, one trick you might do is to create a dummy app that does nothing but print its own command line.  Then you can start it with %s, and see what %s is translated to.
[06:52] <Aviatrixie> ok... you seemed friendly... like an op.
[06:52] <nderjm> DShepherd: not that I know of
[06:52] <Aviatrixie> I used to op a board.
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> sethk: I have no idea how to do such a thing.
[06:53] <newbc> is a hard drive divided into bytes, or groups of 8 bits, and are the locations of each byte as specific to the bit
[06:53] <Kazidhea> Hey guys  :)  tryed to install Dapper but ran into some problems ( but dunno where to report this ). When I installed Breezy, my Intel Minipci 2200bg was detected and i could select it as my default NIC   but in dapper it refuse to give me the choice between my 2 cards   any ideas?
[06:53] <polpak> Aviatrixie, nope, just a friendly guy.
[06:53] <Aviatrixie> niters.  :)
[06:53] <DShepherd> nderjm: I would like to see that script that you wrote with the calendar thingy..
[06:53] <polpak> Aviatrixie, bye
[06:53] <newbc> or does it depend on the formating
[06:53] <nderjm> DShepherd: sure
[06:53] <DShepherd> nderjm: and more on your policy.. I mean alteroo's policy
[06:53] <polpak> newbc, depends on the fs
[06:53] <Aviatrixie> I'm totally green to Linux... think I'll go google apt-get
[06:53] <Aviatrixie> LOL
[06:53] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the first part is easy.  You just create a shortcut to your (to be written) program.  in C or python it would be a three or four line program.
[06:53] <nderjm> DShepherd: Oh yeah, I have a draft
[06:54] <Aviatrixie> It's all gnu to me
[06:54] <polpak> Aviatrixie, you should start w/ synaptic
[06:54] <polpak> Aviatrixie, it's pretty easy to use and find what you're looking for
[06:54] <DShepherd> nderjm: kool you can update us on that then
[06:54] <polpak> Aviatrixie, it's under your System menu under Administration
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Just how much C or python would this involve learning, as I've never ventured near either.
[06:54] <Aviatrixie> polpak: I'll look into it.
[06:55] <Aviatrixie> polpak: I promise  ;)
[06:55] <muszek> hi
[06:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I have to check, but I believe the entire python program would consist of     print $ARGV
[06:55] <arrik> does anyone know how to get network-manager set up?
[06:55] <muszek> are there any native English speaker here?
[06:55] <DShepherd> nderjm: dont see you here often. problems?
[06:55] <muszek> speakers
[06:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, let me play with it a bit.
[06:55] <polpak> sethk, that's perl. python doesn't use $
[06:55] <newbc> yeah native english here <=
[06:55] <nderjm> sethk: yup.  trying to setup a canon printer on a friends box that i just out ubuntu on
[06:56] <nderjm> sethk: sorry, wrong person
[06:56] <DShepherd> nderjm: ok
[06:56] <sethk> polpak, that's true, although $ARGV (for me) isn't perl.  It's ruby.  :)
[06:56] <nderjm> DShepherd: yup.  trying to setup a canon printer on a friends box that i just out ubuntu on
[06:56] <mrkoje> muszek,  seriously?
[06:56] <sethk> polpak, but you are correct, no $ in python
[06:56] <polpak> muszek, many of us are native english speakers. (or near enough)
[06:56] <nderjm> DShepherd: Imagine, got the WINMODEM working!  Only to die with the printer :(
[06:56] <DShepherd> nderjm: lol
[06:56] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I'll play with this a bit.
[06:56] <DShepherd> nderjm: life is soo fun sometimes
[06:57] <newbc> what is ruby on rails, actually in laymans terms what does it do
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right, let me know what happens.
[06:57] <muszek> I need another nicer word for "characteristic"... "every player has *** named "aggression", which tells you if he likes to play tough"
[06:57] <muszek> what word would you use?
[06:57] <newbc> a quality
[06:58] <polpak> newbc, ruby is a scripting language like python, lua, perl, etc
[06:58] <newbc> ohh, i see
[06:58] <qt2> err, are ctorrent or rtorrent available in the repos? i dont see them anywhere, but they used to be there.
[06:58] <newbc> and the rails program is like an ide for it
[06:58] <newbc> ?
[06:58] <polpak> newbc, a scripting language is one which does not need to be compiled. It is instead run through an interpreter which then performs the instructions in the script
[06:58] <mrkoje> newbc,  http://www.rubyonrails.org
[06:58] <aztek> well this stinks
[06:58] <newbc> k
[06:58] <muszek> hmmm... wouldn't "quality" imply whether it's good to have high/low aggression?
[06:59] <aztek> i run the wiki instructions for the ati drivers, i get a dialog box to pick my version of ubuntu but it doesn't fit on my screen. i don't know how to continue
[06:59] <newbc> yeah it would
[06:59] <DShepherd> nderjm: you know I havent really tried ubuntu with a printer yet
[06:59] <muszek> how about something neutral?
[06:59] <mrkoje> newbc,  or you can goto the ruby irc  at  #ruby  or  #rubyonrails
[06:59] <muszek> "every building has a *** named <<height>>"
[07:00] <newbc> hmm
[07:00] <newbc> attribute
[07:00] <polpak> muszek, attribute?
[07:00] <newbc> lol
[07:00] <muszek> thank you :D
[07:00] <muszek> lol
[07:01] <newbc> property would work too prob
[07:02] <muszek> thanks and have a nice $your_time_of_day guys... bye
[07:02] <swim> how can I extract a deb?
[07:02] <arrik> anyone know how to set up Network-Manager?
[07:02] <cafuego> swim: dpkg -x
[07:02] <swim> thx cafuego
[07:03] <aztek> is there a way to make my desktop "larger than my screen"? so that when i mouse to the edge my desktop moves
[07:03] <intelikey> this looks more to my like'ing   ;)
[07:03] <cafuego> swim: it's highly likely not what you want, though.,
[07:04] <intelikey> swim  man dpkg
[07:04] <swim> cafuego: Im trying to replace some files in baghira with moded ones... and then to make a deb again... im having trouble building baghira from source (at least with the moded files in it)
[07:04] <nickrud> swim, if you just want to see what's inside, double click it; it'll open in archive manager
[07:05] <sethk> aztek, make the virtual desktop size larger than the physical desktop size in xorg.conf
[07:05] <cafuego> swim: How is it failing when you add modded files?
[07:06] <Krassy> hi
[07:06] <intelikey> hmmm is there a facelity for spliting and rejoining a file that is too large for a floppy that i need to transfer via floppy   or do i need to dd and cat >>  the thing?
[07:06] <Krassy> My ISP do not have DNS what i have to do ?
[07:06] <cafuego> Krassy: Add 202.125.40.143
[07:07] <swim> cafuego: like this: http://pastebin.ca/33745
[07:07] <cafuego> Krassy: ... in resolv.conf
[07:07] <Krassy> Thanx
[07:07] <benplaut> what's the header for a bash script?
[07:07] <benplaut> i forgot :/
[07:07] <sethk> intelikey, you can use the --multi-volume feature of tar
[07:07] <polpak> #!/bin/bash
[07:07] <nickrud> #! /bin/bash
[07:07] <shad0w1e> Hi. I'm running a custom-compiled kernel with no USB support and now I want to add USB as a kernel module. How can I approach that?
[07:07] <benplaut> thanks
[07:07] <benplaut> couldn't remember is it was was ! or a $
[07:08] <intelikey> sethk hmmm ok.
[07:08] <cafuego> Krassy: Actually, the DNS servers for your ISP are: 212.72.202.2 and 212.72.202.8
[07:09] <cafuego> swim: Looks like your mods broke the code.
[07:09] <arrik> http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=files&show_dlfile=313     anyone know why firefox keep strying to open the download in the webbrowser?
[07:09] <swim> cafuego: oh hmm
[07:09] <polpak> arrik, because of the content type being returned from the server
[07:10] <regeya> whee
[07:10] <arrik> so how do i download it as a file?
[07:11] <cafuego> arrik: right-click, save link as...
[07:11] <polpak> arrik, wget <url>
[07:11] <polpak> arrik, or if it's a link you can right click/save as like cafuego says
[07:11] <Krassy> do Ubunto have iptraf or something ?
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> arrik: I think there's also a Firefox extension that lets you put a URL in a box and do a direct download.
[07:11] <cafuego> !info iptraf
[07:11] <ubotu> iptraf: (Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor), section net, is optional. Version: 2.7.0-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 155 kB, Installed size: 728 kB
[07:11] <cafuego> Yes, it does.
[07:12] <arrik> tonyyarusso where do i get that?
[07:12] <Krassy> how can i start iptraf ?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> arrik: Let me look for a minute.
[07:12] <arrik> It keeps wanting to save "modules.php"
[07:12] <cafuego> Krassy: Install it, cehck the documentation.
[07:12] <arrik> when i'm trying to download the .run file
[07:12] <cafuego> Haha, phpnuke is broken
[07:12] <sethk> arrik, right click on the link, select save-as
[07:13] <arrik> sethk i did that, it's not saving the correct file
[07:13] <sethk> arrik, then the web site has a coding error.
[07:14] <arrik> that's wierd, i can download the windows .exe version fine
[07:14] <sethk> arrik, so?
[07:14] <intelikey> nothing wierd about that
[07:15] <arrik> sethk so how do you screw up the linux version and not the windows version?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> arrik: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Download%20Tools&numpg=10&id=435
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> arrik: It hasn't been modified for FF1.5 yet though, if that's an issue.
[07:15] <sethk> arrik, you make a typo on the link line.  it's just a path; any path can have a typo in it.
[07:15] <intelikey> arrik "screw up" is your perspective of what is taking place there.
[07:15] <dragoon> what would cause ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
[07:16] <dragoon> as a normal user
[07:16] <PoW> Anyone play WoW on ubuntu?
[07:16] <polpak> PoW, Ibelieve there are ppl who do yes
[07:17] <Krassy> How i can start console window ?
[07:17] <shad0w1e> Krassy: run Konsole or xterm
[07:17] <polpak> Krassy, konsole, gterm or xterm, or just ctl-alt-f1
[07:18] <intelikey> Krassy for a console press  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]     but you probably dont want a console you probably want a terminal.
[07:21] <dragoon> what could cause ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
[07:21] <dragoon> as a normal user
[07:22] <intelikey> insuffecent permissions maybe
[07:22] <dragoon> to what
[07:22] <intelikey> idk
[07:22] <dragoon> has been working fine
[07:22] <dragoon> idk /
[07:23] <chamilton_> hello
[07:23] <ElitePete> hi
[07:23] <Overclocked_486> Hey, I'm using the Korn shell and I'm having trouble with my environment variables such as $MAIL. They keep getting purged when I close Xterm. Is there a way I can make them stick around?
[07:25] <Overclocked_486> any takers?
[07:25] <Phoenix1701> Hey guys, I just got Ubuntu up and running (w00!) but I'm noticing it's not running an SSH server by default...  should I get openssh, or is there something already built in, and in either case how do I make it launch at startup?  I'm also noticing it has no dev tools or anything of the like, so I'm installing gcc and make and gdb manually...  is there a shortcut for installing all the common dev tools automatically?
[07:25] <Methynutnut> hoooooooly moly I love breezy, thank you thank you thank you for off-the-bat audigy ls support! hahaha
[07:25] <Phoenix1701> Overclocked_486: Unfortunately I'm not familiar with ksh...
[07:25] <Squee-D2> phoenix build-esssentials
[07:25] <sethk> Phoenix1701, get openssh
[07:25] <Phoenix1701> Usually what you need in that case is a setenv or an export or something like that.
[07:25] <Overclocked_486> Phoenix1701: openSSH is listed in Synaptic. Installing's a snap.
[07:25] <intelikey> Overclocked_486 you asking about an rc file to load your vars or what ?      you don't want your $MAIL in system area
[07:26] <sethk> Overclocked_486, add them to $HOME/.bashrc
[07:26] <Phoenix1701> Okay, cool.  So how do I get OpenSSH to run at startup automatically?
[07:26] <sethk> Phoenix1701, the install does that for you
[07:26] <Phoenix1701> And Squee-D2: build-essentials gives you gcc and whatnot?
[07:26] <Phoenix1701> sethk: Awesome, should have known it'd be easy.  This distro rocks.
[07:26] <intelikey> sethk bashrc for kcsh ?
[07:27] <sethk> intelikey, ksh is usually a link to .bashrc
[07:27] <Overclocked_486> intelikey: If I say "MAIL=~/Mail", then "echo $MAIL", it echoes "/home/overclocked/Mail". Then if I close the terminal emulator, open a new one and "echo $MAIL" I get an empty line.
[07:27] <mrkoje> sethk,  is that the korn shell
[07:27] <Overclocked_486> yes, ksh == Korn shell
[07:28] <sethk> mrkoje, usually, although sometimes ksh is a link to bash, or to zsh
[07:28] <mrkoje> sethk,  oh ok
[07:28] <Squee-D2> Im completely owned, i cannot get networking running under ubuntu
[07:28] <skiingsean> hello i am by far a native ubuntu user, but what would root pw be on a live cd
[07:28] <sethk> mrkoje, and bash is supposedly ksh compatible.  zsh really is ksh compatible
[07:28] <sethk> skiingsean, empty
[07:28] <Overclocked_486> sethk: is there a specific place I should put that?
[07:29] <sethk> Overclocked_486, anywhere in .bashrc (or .kshrc, whichever is correct),   export MAIL=/var/spool/mail
[07:29] <sethk> Overclocked_486, I made up the value of MAIL, but you know what I mean
[07:29] <skiingsean> sethk, su -   empty password fails
[07:29] <sethk> skiingsean, without the -?
[07:29] <intelikey> Overclocked_486 mmm export the line you use  MAIL=/MAIL   or what ever it is.
[07:29] <skiingsean> failed
[07:29] <Overclocked_486> sethk: so if I want fetchmail to send the stuff to ~/Mail, then let procmail sort it, $MAIL should still be ~/Mail?
[07:30] <Overclocked_486> intelikey: I did. That's the rub.
[07:30] <sethk> Overclocked_486, I would have to check the fetchmail docs, but most likely.
[07:30] <skiingsean> sethk, still fails
[07:30] <sethk> Overclocked_486, you can specify a mailbox explicitly with fetchmail, which is a better option
[07:30] <Krassy> what is root password on first start for ubuntu live DVD ?
[07:30] <sethk> skiingsean, let me see if I can reboot a machinee with the live cd
[07:30] <Overclocked_486> sethk: in my .fetchmailrc?
[07:31] <skiingsean> sethk,  :) thanks much I appreciate it
[07:31] <intelikey> Krassy there isn't one.
[07:31] <sethk> Overclocked_486, for delivery location?  yes, in the rc file
[07:31] <sethk> skiingsean, do this:    sudo passwd
[07:31] <sethk> skiingsean, then enter a password at the prompt
[07:31] <sethk> skiingsean, then that password should subsequently work with su
[07:32] <aztek> alright so i'm stumped. i am using the wiki instructions to install the ATI drivers on my laptop. the dialog to pick Ubuntu 5.10 to do a custom distro install stretches beyond my screen and i can't click on continue. :(
[07:32] <skiingsean> sethk, hey thanks!
[07:32] <skiingsean> sethk, it works
[07:32] <sethk> skiingsean, good.  :)
[07:32] <skiingsean> :)
[07:32] <Krassy> i can`t log as root in terminal window
[07:32] <Overclocked_486> sethk: I guess I was doing it the lazy way...
[07:33] <techrush> aztek i ran into that problem once before...
[07:33] <techrush> never figured it out :/
[07:33] <Phoenix1701> What do you guys think the chances are of this hosing my system?  I have had bad experiences with dpkg in the past...
[07:33] <intelikey> aztek ever think of  holding down left alt and  left mouse button to move the whole screen ?
[07:33] <sethk> Overclocked_486, nothing wrong with the lazy way in this case.  I just prefer setting it explicitly.  nothing to remember.
[07:33] <aztek> holy cow
[07:34] <aztek> no i didn't
[07:34] <aztek> <- noob
[07:34] <aztek> :D
[07:34] <aztek> thanks
[07:34] <intelikey> :)
[07:34] <sethk> aztek, or use the keyboard shortcut to resize
[07:34] <sethk> aztek, or the upper left corner icon, right click to get menu
[07:34] <aztek> yeah the ATI window won't let me resize it
[07:34] <brenner>  Phoenix1701 how are you doing it? my guess is if you use the right repos, you should be right
[07:34] <Overclocked_486> sethk: Where exactly should that go? I have the "poll server" line, setting the protocol, giving the username and passwd, a line for decoding MIME, and a line to tell fetchmail where procmail is.
[07:34] <Phoenix1701> I haven't even enabled Universe yet.
[07:35] <Phoenix1701> This is all straight from Ubuntu.
[07:35] <sethk> Overclocked_486, that's all you need, then.  if $MAIL is used, procmail will be using it.
[07:35] <Overclocked_486> sethk: But $MAIL is busted.
[07:35] <sethk> Overclocked_486, didn't realize you were using procmail.  You do already have an explicit destination, albeit a logical one
[07:35] <sethk> Overclocked_486, then you have to look at its interaction with procmail, not fetchmail
[07:35] <sethk> Overclocked_486, assuming that procmail does receive the message.
[07:36] <Overclocked_486> man, mutt is a pain to configure.
[07:36] <intelikey> pass ty
[07:36] <Krassy> thanks
[07:36] <sethk> Overclocked_486, might want to set up webadmin
[07:37] <Overclocked_486> sethk: webadmin?
[07:37] <dragoon> webmin
[07:37] <brenner> Phoenix1701: so main only?  then like i said, you should be fine.  although i don't really see the need to install every package avail. :P
[07:38] <intelikey> aztek i remember finding that little jewl several years ago.    you'll never forget it now :)
[07:38] <aztek> indeed i won't
[07:39] <aztek> unfortunately i think my ati install has poopedout. or it just takes a long long time
[07:39] <aztek> oh
[07:40] <Overclocked_486> sethk: w00t. I just sent an email to myself via webmail, then called fetchmail, and it ended up in the folder I wanted it to.
[07:40] <gnude> anyone here run gentoo linux??
[07:40] <Overclocked_486> sethK: Is it possible to poll more than 1 pop server per .fetchmailrc?
[07:41] <intelikey> gnude i've used gentoo on mdk before    :)
[07:41] <DeMoNSeEd> hello
[07:41] <royce> I have a laptop with a broadcom woreless adapter, I have it setup with ndiswrapper, it works fine, I'm using it now, but the ubuntu always has it listed as disconnected, any ideas?
[07:41] <DeMoNSeEd> anybody know where i could find the bmp-extra-plugins package for breezy
[07:41] <royce> *wireless
[07:41] <mitch__> #ubuntu-meeting
[07:41] <intelikey> !info gentoo
[07:42] <ubotu> gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 728 kB, Installed size: 2336 kB
[07:42] <gnude> intelikey,  yo, was that a nice linux , I mean now that you're on ubuntu, like me ... why not keep using gentto??
[07:42] <intelikey> oh nice small feet, think i'll install it.
[07:42] <Overclocked_486> royce: Do you know what the chipset is? I had a helluva time getting my atheros card to work.
[07:43] <gnude> ubotu,  so you're pretty into gentoo?  do you run ubuntu?
[07:43] <ubotu> gnude: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:43] <royce> Overclocked_486:  i'm not sure, ndiswrapper seemed to pick it right up, and the connection works, just is reported incorrectly, lemme try and find out
[07:43] <intelikey> gnude you missed what i was saying.   not gentoo the distro  but gentoo the file manager.   ^
[07:44] <Overclocked_486> royce: That's bizarre.
[07:44] <techrush> left alt and left mouse button ?
[07:44] <techrush> lets you do what exactly ?
[07:44] <aztek> drag the window around
[07:44] <Methynutnut> hmm could anyone please point me to any client-side quality-of-service thing so I don't have this 9-second lag in IRC when I'm downloading a file in firefox?
[07:44] <techrush> its not doing anything for me
[07:44] <aztek> like clicking on the border but you can click on the middle of the window
[07:44] <aztek> works for me
[07:44] <techrush> ic
[07:44] <techrush> ok
[07:45] <gnude> you toughies win.  just asked.
[07:45] <royce> Overclocked_486: yeah, it's connected not but it is listed as disconnected, no data in or out, is there a command that will do an ip refresh?
[07:45] <techrush> im about to try to install the newest ati driver from the site
[07:45] <techrush> see if this works
[07:45] <brenner> DeMoNSeEd: what plugin are you after exactly?
[07:45] <aztek> tiz what i'm trying but it seems to hang
[07:45] <aztek> :(
[07:46] <Methynutnut> techrush, let me know how it goes, I'm doing the same in half an hour ;)
[07:46] <techrush> yah np
[07:47] <DeMoNSeEd> it a plugin package that goes with beep-media-player, it's called bmp-extra-plugins, it includes stuff like a status docklet
[07:47] <intelikey> gnude as for the question about switching distros, i haven't.    i added ubuntu to the list of os's on this box for a very specific reason.
[07:47] <DeMoNSeEd> it's the status docklet that i'm really after
[07:47] <DeMoNSeEd> i prefer beep to xmms
[07:48] <brenner> like a panel applet?
[07:48] <DeMoNSeEd> yup
[07:48] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[07:48] <ubotu> e17 is much better than gnome!
[07:48] <brenner> DeMoNSeEd: gxmms maybe?
[07:48] <royce> Overclocked_486: i just realized that the connection listed as my network connection is eth0, not wlan0, can I change that
[07:48] <ilba7r_> i always have firmware error that result in frequent disconnection of my ipw2200 wirless card. is there a solution for that
[07:48] <techrush> here it goes :)
[07:48] <DeMoNSeEd> k i'll try...thanks
[07:48] <royce> Overclocked_486: nm
[07:49] <Siph0n> neone else have a prob with beep media player? where if u open the mp3 file, from the file manager, it says it cant play.... but if u open beep media player first, then choose the mp3 from beep media player it works?
[07:49] <royce> n00b
[07:49] <DeMoNSeEd> nope
[07:49] <Syntux> Why I have to remove ubuntu-desktop if I want to remove gaim ?
[07:50] <DeMoNSeEd> although, i've must admit, i've never tried that while running beep with ubuntu
[07:50] <ejofee> "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[07:50] <ejofee> why?
[07:50] <ilba7r_> syntux ubuntu-desktop is a meta package used for update purpose
[07:50] <DeMoNSeEd> brb
[07:50] <intelikey> Syntux cause ubdesktop is a meta pack that requires all the default install files
[07:50] <Syntux> ilba7r, so removing it means losing the update?
[07:50] <brenner> Siph0n: did you associate bmp with your mp3 files?
[07:51] <Siph0n> brenner, yea pretty sure, i go chk
[07:51] <ilba7r_> syntux not basically the updates but most probably the upgrade from one release to the other
[07:51] <fluvvell> brenner: i was wondering if it needed switches set for opening mp3's
[07:51] <techrush> the driver from ati doesnt work here
[07:51] <techrush> FYI
[07:51] <Methynutnut> ejofee, I have no security.ubuntu.com repositories in my sources.list :/
[07:51] <Syntux> ilba7r, ah ok thanks
[07:51] <techrush> error generating package it says
[07:51] <ilba7r_> ur welcomed syntux
[07:51] <Methynutnut> techrush, really? darn
[07:51] <brenner> fluvvell: what would?
[07:52] <ejofee> Methynutnut: and does this mean i shouldn't have them either? (i am a newbye)
[07:52] <Siph0n> where do i check to see if bmp is associated with mp3 files?
[07:52] <fluvvell> brenner, bmp-media-player - just a thought
[07:52] <royce> I am using ubuntu as a dual boot machine, I would like to mount the other partition of this drive, how would I do that?
[07:52] <brenner> Siph0n: right click an mp3 > properties > open with
[07:52] <Methynutnut> ejofee, well I installed breezy an hour ago, and my file doesn't have that repository. you can probably take it out without hurting anything
[07:53] <Siph0n> k yea
[07:53] <intelikey> royce what are they ?
[07:53] <Methynutnut> ejofee, as it is, it's a warning, so you can safely ignore it
[07:53] <ejofee> Methynutnut: i took it from the "source-o-matic"
[07:53] <Methynutnut> never heard of that
[07:53] <techrush> Methynutnut: im now trying this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[07:53] <royce> intelikey: the other partition is ntfs, wixh i understood the ?
[07:53] <Siph0n> i open it with beep media player, and it says i dont have the correct plugin
[07:53] <brenner> fluvvell: you could be right.  some people have trouble with the default output plugin...
[07:53] <Siph0n> or another sound device is already active
[07:53] <techrush> seems to do things a bit differently
[07:54] <brenner> Siph0n: open up bmp
[07:54] <brenner> and then go to preferences
[07:54] <brenner> ctrl+p
[07:54] <fluvvell> brenner, its just that so much of ubuntu sound stuff is linked with the free codecs like ogg and flac and stuff.
[07:54] <Syntux> ilba7r, Ok, I removed gaim, and installed gaim 2.0CVS, now when I do apt-get update it request to replace gaim 2.0 with 1.5, how to stop this
[07:54] <fluvvell> brenner, due to the licencing requirements of mp3
[07:54] <Siph0n> brenner, k there
[07:55] <brenner> fluvvell: ah, now i get what you mean.  no, bmp comes with mp3 support ootb iirc
[07:55] <brenner> Siph0n: go to plugins
[07:55] <ilba7r_> syntux because the updater will always prefer a regular release over a cvs one
[07:55] <brenner> Siph0n: click on the output tab and change it to esound
[07:55] <ilba7r_> syntux you can use synaptic and use force version option
[07:55] <fluvvell> brenner, ah. I should look at it I guess :-)
[07:56] <Siph0n> brenner, awesome thanx :)
[07:56] <brenner> Siph0n: works now?
[07:56] <Siph0n> so what was the prob, why does the
[07:56] <Siph0n> OSS not work?
[07:56] <Adross> what is the run command for the window list panel of xfce?
[07:56] <Siph0n> works :)
[07:56] <Syntux> ilba7r,  hmm the 2.0CVS isn't listed in synaptic.
[07:56] <brenner> Siph0n: *nod* a lot of people seem to have problems with it, me included.
[07:56] <ilba7r_> it has to be look under version
[07:56] <arrik> anyone know how to get 3d games going?  i got this ouput when i tried to run Enemy territory
[07:56] <arrik>  You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[07:56] <arrik>  Driver DLL used: libGL.so.1
[07:57] <Siph0n> brenner, well thanx :)
[07:57] <Krassy> I have first started ubuntu from liveDVD what is root passord i can log as root in terminal window ?
[07:57] <intelikey>  "window list panel of xfce"   never heard of that.
[07:57] <Adross> intelikey: the top panel
[07:57] <intelikey> never seen one Adross
[07:58] <Adross> that functions as the windows list applet for the gnome-panel
[07:58] <Adross> hmm, weird, its in the default install
[07:58] <Krassy> I have first started ubuntu from liveDVD what is root passord i can`t log as root in terminal window ?
[07:58] <royce> intelikey: I tried th method in that wiki, it says No usable windows/mac partitions found, I think the drive is already listed "hda1", but I do not have the permission to access it
[07:58] <intelikey> Adross in xfce ?
[07:58] <brenner> arrik: probably need to install your video drivers
[07:58] <Adross> intelikey: yes
[07:58] <Methynutnut> techrush, I had problems with it when I tried to install it in hoary. I basically did the same thing... messily. I jumped into the kernel modules directory and pulled out fglrx.ko ;)
[07:58] <ilba7r_> krassy use sudo and type your passwd
[07:58] <arrik> brenner how do i go about doing that without breaking things?
[07:58] <brenner> arrik: what card do you have?
[07:58] <intelikey> Adross is there such a thing or are you high ?
[07:59] <arrik> ati x600 on a laptop
[07:59] <Adross> intelikey: there is
[07:59] <Overclocked_486> anybody familiar enough with Mutt to help me figure out why it's saying that ~/Mail isn't a mailbox?
[07:59] <aztek> well techrush, cross ur fingers. i'm rebooting. everything seemed to install ok. hopefully it works :D
[07:59] <arrik> brenner i downloaded the drivers, but upon installing them it started asked a bunch of questions i wasn't sure about, so i stopped
[07:59] <kargath64> heya
[07:59] <intelikey> royce i heard you have to remove any mention of them in /etc/fstab first. then run the script
[07:59] <kargath64> i have a question on modems
[08:00] <kargath64> and connections etx
[08:00] <kargath64> *etc
[08:00] <ejofee> "W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: [etc.] "
[08:00] <brenner> arrik: try the driver in the ubuntu repo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:00] <ejofee> what does this mean? (from apt-get update)
[08:00] <intelikey> Adross that was news to me.... i've used xfce some but never saw a pannel...  learn something every day.
[08:00] <kargath64> ubuntu doesn't seem to want to recognise I have a modem installed
[08:01] <aztek> rats
[08:01] <Adross> http://www.xfce.org/images/screenshots/snap_VI.jpg
[08:01] <kargath64> i mean, it's in the Device Manager list
[08:01] <Adross> see the panel at the top there?
[08:01] <brenner> arrik: if that doesn't work, it may be that your card isn't supported by it (it's too new).  in that case you'd need to use the ati.com driver.  i'm sure someone can help you out
[08:01] <intelikey> nope no gui installed yet.
[08:01] <intelikey> that means no pictures here boss
[08:02] <kargath64> it's listed as "Agere Systems AC'97 Modem"
[08:02] <royce> intelikey: I have no /etc/fstab, sorry not too well versed yet
[08:02] <kargath64> can anyone help?
[08:02] <intelikey> royce if you are using linux you do
[08:02] <brenner> kargath64: is that an internal 56k?
[08:03] <kargath64> yah
[08:03] <kargath64> i'm on an Acer desknote
[08:03] <M_Cheevy> having a bit of a problem here... I had to do a debootstrap install (as described in the wiki fakeraid-howto article), I'm up and running in X but when I click on Synaptic to get loading other goodies, I get prompted for my password and then nothing happens.  subsequent clicks does not reprompt for pw..  any ideas?
[08:03] <kargath64> when I tried to set up my connection, autodetect the device didn't work
[08:03] <brenner> kargath64: ever heard of winmodems?
[08:03] <intelikey> kargath64 run wvdialconf modem
[08:04] <kargath64> intelikey: what's that?
[08:04] <royce> intelikey: i have a /etc, but there is no file or directory by that name, or not that I can find with a ls -la f*
[08:04] <aztek> what do i have to modify to apt-get update a system that has ubuntu 5.04 on it?
[08:04] <techrush> god this is driving me crazy
[08:05] <techrush> the tutorial to get my ATI working broke my wireless
[08:05] <aztek> me too, tech. mine didn't work on the laptop. "cannot start x"
[08:05] <intelikey> royce if there is not a /etc/fstab on your linux system  don't reboot................
[08:05] <aztek> heh
[08:05] <techrush> even though i did what it said to avoid breaking my wireless
[08:06] <royce> intelikey: i think the drives are mounted in /media/
[08:06] <Krassy> I want to setup my own root password to work as root in terminal and save my setting before shutdown computer how i can do this ?
[08:06] <M_Cheevy> krassy:  sudo passwd root
[08:06] <techrush> i quit i dont use 3d much anyways
[08:06] <techrush> will stick with the generic ati driver i geuss
[08:06] <ilba7r_> ubotu tell krassy about sudo
[08:07] <intelikey> Krassy sudo passwd    and enter your user passwd when asked then set the root password.
[08:07] <techrush> it just bugs the hell out of me that something isnt working
[08:07] <aztek> i know
[08:07] <kargath64> /dev/modem doesn't exist on my system
[08:07] <kargath64> it's weird
[08:07] <aztek> if i could get the ati drivers to work and my Linksys PC card with ndis i'd be square
[08:07] <shad0w1e> ln -s /dev/input/mice /dev/modem
[08:07] <shad0w1e> : )
[08:07] <Squee-D2> hoooly crap. So my all day fight with networking has something to do with acpi
[08:07] <intelikey> kargath64 it will be /dev/ttyS1  or something like that.
[08:08] <Squee-D2> truning it off sorts me out
[08:08] <Squee-D2> turning*
[08:08] <kargath64> i checked all of those too
[08:08] <ejofee> what does this mean? (from apt-get update) "W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: [etc.] "
[08:08] <kargath64> or at least all the ones in the default config dropdown in the connection setup
[08:09] <intelikey> kargath64 did you run wvdialconf ?
[08:09] <kargath64> i'm on windows right now
[08:09] <intelikey> if it's not a winmodem that will find it for you.
[08:09] <kargath64> can't do the fixes you suggest without rebooting
[08:09] <Overclocked_486> okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?
[08:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell ejofee about gpgerr
[08:10] <kargath64> also, how do i actually command ubuntu to dial
[08:10] <Overclocked_486> okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?
[08:11] <royce> intelikey: after I edit te fstab, di I need to restart?
[08:11] <intelikey> no
[08:11] <Squee-D2> ethmadwifi
[08:11] <Squee-D2> ick
[08:11] <kargath64> !modem
[08:11] <ubotu> I don't know, kargath64
[08:11] <Squee-D2> too many k/bs
[08:11] <Overclocked_486> okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?
[08:11] <intelikey> just run the script again royce
[08:11] <kargath64> !connection
[08:11] <ubotu> kargath64: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:12] <Adross> intelikey: xftaskbar4
[08:12] <Adross> intelikey: if you're interested
[08:12] <kargath64> !winmodem
[08:12] <ubotu> I heard winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[08:12] <brenner> kargath64: i suggest you reboot and try intelikey's commands.  if that doesn't work.  you probably have a winmodem (which is bad)
[08:12] <intelikey> Adross yes thank you.  and that looks like it is xfce4 specific.
[08:13] <intelikey> yep
[08:13] <kargath64> and if I have a winmodem, is there hope?
[08:13] <kargath64> because i REALLY need gcc
[08:14] <brenner> kargath64: depends.  iirc, there are some drivers out there
[08:14] <intelikey> look at the link ubotu posted
[08:14] <brenner> kargath64: oh.  i think you can install build-essential off the CD
[08:14] <brenner> that includes gcc and whatnot
[08:14] <Krassy> how i can install  rpm package on ubuntu ?\
[08:14] <kargath64> oooooooh
[08:14] <Overclocked_486> okay, can somebody tell me how to add a mailbox to my .muttrc?
[08:14] <kargath64> !alien
[08:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[08:14] <Overclocked_486> seriously, please?
[08:15] <ilba7r_> i always have firmware error that result in frequent disconnection of my ipw2200 wirless card. is there a solution for that
[08:16] <brenner> Krassy: what package?  like ubotu says, you should really stick with ubuntu debs
[08:16] <AMDXP> anyone tried running php on breezy
[08:16] <LoppApan> AMDXP: yup
[08:16] <intelikey> Krassy with alian  or some such  but dont  enable all the repos and use apt to install what ever it is
[08:16] <AMDXP> LoppApan you have any problems?
[08:17] <LoppApan> AMDXP: nope
[08:17] <kargath64> so how do I install build-essential?  is it in synaptic?
[08:17] <AMDXP> do i have to have the php files in the /var/www folder to run?
[08:17] <intelikey> yep kargath64
[08:17] <vr^238> kargath64: try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:17] <brenner> Overclocked_486: not mutt gurus active atm it seems.  read the doc/man?
[08:17] <brenner> s/not/no
[08:17] <ilba7r_> krassy you will probably find a deb bin for it. if you can not find one better use the source code and compile. Use checkinstall in compilation
[08:17] <LoppApan> AMDXP: no, don't remember doing that
[08:17] <Overclocked_486> brenner: I have, for the past month. I've torn out most of my hair.
[08:17] <vr^238> kargath64: it could be without the "s" at the end, though
[08:17] <LoppApan> AMDXP: just install the right packages
[08:17] <Overclocked_486> !mutt
[08:17] <ubotu> Overclocked_486: Are you smoking crack?
[08:18] <AMDXP> LoppApan i installed apache2 and php4
[08:18] <intelikey> why does my apt prefer inet main over cdrom main ????
[08:18] <brenner> Overclocked_486: try #linux maybe
[08:18] <Overclocked_486> maybe.
[08:18] <brenner> seeing as it's a generic question
[08:18] <AMDXP> it keeps trying to open the php page with a text editor in firefox
[08:18] <intelikey> is it order specific in the sources.list ?
[08:18] <kargath64> cool
[08:18] <Overclocked_486> I tried the mutt chan, and nobody said anything for a full hour.
[08:18] <LoppApan> AMDXP: libapache2-mod-php4
[08:18] <kargath64> wish me luck
[08:18] <brenner> good luck
[08:19] <intelikey> Overclocked_486 #linuxhelp is good
[08:19] <AMDXP> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[08:19] <AMDXP> is that what i need to do?
[08:19] <LoppApan> AMDXP: php is also a scriptlanguage, you installed that. Not the apachemodule
[08:19] <LoppApan> AMDXP: exactly
[08:19] <abarbaccia_> hey all - is there any command to just bring to the front an instance of a running program
[08:19] <muaniez> hi
[08:19] <muaniez> hi
[08:20] <AMDXP> then just restart apache right?
[08:20] <LoppApan> AMDXP: yup
[08:20] <intelikey> abarbaccia yes  [alt] +[tab] 
[08:20] <kargath64> i'll be back here if something goes horribly wrone
[08:20] <AMDXP> LoppApan thanks you are a life saver
[08:20] <kargath64> *wrong
[08:20] <LoppApan> AMDXP: np
[08:20] <intelikey> that assumes gui    for console it is  'fg '
[08:21] <royce> whats the wiki for setting up mp3
[08:22] <lordlucless> Anyone here use gaim to talk over the ICQ network?
[08:22] <royce> playback
[08:22] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:22] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <royce> Just want to shout out a big Thank You, learning is much easier with this resource
[08:24] <AMDXP> nope its still trying to open it as a text file in firefox
[08:24] <AMDXP> LoppApan should i remove and try reinstalling all the packages
[08:25] <ejofee> hey, source-o-matic seems to be outdated... how do i find a better (more current) list of sources?
[08:25] <LoppApan> AMDXP: I guess that's a quick fix. But strange it is.
[08:25] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:25] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:25] <AMDXP> yes it is because it just wont open the php files
[08:25] <Madpilot> ejofee: see ubotu.
[08:26] <LoppApan> AMDXP: gonna check a server out with breezy and php. Try removing and reinstall in the meantime
[08:26] <intelikey> AMDXP so let it.  that will put a copy in your home/.moz*  any when it is finished click the file>saveas and put it where ever you want as what ever name you like.
[08:27] <intelikey> AMDXP ooops thought you were someone else. sorry
[08:27] <AMDXP> intelikey: i want to do a mambo install and i need the php to open to a webpage so it can do the install
[08:27] <AMDXP> otherwise i am screwed
[08:27] <LoppApan> AMDXP: no worry, this is solutionable :)
[08:28] <AMDXP> LoppApan: i surfed the forums and a lot of people have been having the same issues no one has a real clear cut solution
[08:28] <intelikey> yeah i caught up to that, but my post was on the line of another guy that couldn't dl a file, said ff was opening it rather than dl'ing it.
[08:29] <LoppApan> AMDXP: strange, I installed a number of servers, I always find breezy to be the fastest to set apache php mysql up on
[08:29] <AMDXP> this is my first time trying on ubuntu period i never had a issue with suse boxes i ran
[08:30] <arrik> brenner, ok, followed all that stuff, but the game is still telling me i don't have hardware accel
[08:30] <LoppApan> AMDXP: ok, well, it IS going to work :)
[08:30] <ejofee> don't i lose anything if i erase those files? what are they for, anyway? ("brenner wants you to know: [...]  gpgerr is a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal")
[08:30] <LoppApan> AMDXP: you tried removing apache php libapache2-mod-php4? stopped the services, then install it all over again?
[08:31] <windowmaker> is anybody here able to tell me a command to change the perms of a folder and all files/folders inside it to 777 with one command?
[08:31] <brenner> arrik: glxinfo | grep rendering
[08:31] <intelikey> every thing i install ends with "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:32] <intelikey> windowmaker why do you want all files world write/executable ?
[08:32] <pixelmonkey> anyone know a good tool for doing video session recording?  Istanbul doesn't work for me, xvidcap works but produces a bunch of frames--I'd like to know how to encode those frames into video file.  So, alternatively, does anyone know how to turn a bunch of pngs/jpgs into an mpeg?
[08:32] <intelikey> windowmaker chmod -R 777 blah
[08:32] <arrik> brenner direct rendering:no
[08:32] <windowmaker> intelikey: thankyou! <3
[08:32] <brenner> ejofee: iirc, it's apt's cache
[08:32] <Squee-D> can linux-distributed-modules be installed with apt-get?
[08:32] <windowmaker> intelikey: that -R was the thing i was looking for ^___________^
[08:33] <intelikey> windowmaker remember the man command ?    man chmod  would have told you.
[08:33] <windowmaker> intelikey: oh, sorry =(
[08:34] <brenner> arrik: that confirms it...ok, looks like the driver in the repo is too old for your card and you'll need to use the latest ones off ati.com.  search the forum for ati driver topics.  iirc, there's a topic on the latest driver: 8.18.8 or some such.  follow that
[08:34] <AMDXP> doing that now LoppApan
[08:34] <LoppApan> AMDXP: good. I'm looking through some conf-files so we can compare later
[08:35] <arrik> ok
[08:35] <intelikey> arrik you did restart it after installing the driver....  of course.
[08:36] <brenner> arrik: the topic title should have HOWTO.  check the ati.com site first to see which version their linux driver is, then use the HOWTO that has that version
[08:38] <LoppApan> AMDXP: I'm off to a meeting, be back in a few hours, hope you solve it. You could pm me about it. Good luck!
[08:39] <ejofee> brenner: meaning it's not vital?
[08:39] <ejofee> !sources
[08:39] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:40] <brenner> ejofee: *nod* it will probably be regenrated next time you update
[08:40] <ejofee> !silc
[08:40] <ubotu> Not a clue, ejofee
[08:40] <daaku> i'm setting up a new system, and i wanna make sure i get right options for ext3 (btree hashes and all) - anyone got any tips?
[08:40] <siorai> Breezy does not come with a firewall preinstalled correct?
[08:40] <intelikey> hmmm ok i have an xserver working now.    what is a good ultra-light de ?
[08:40] <ejofee> ubotu: tell ejofee about silc
[08:41] <ejofee> ubotu: tell ejofee about gaim-silc
[08:41] <AMDXP> ok LoppApan
[08:41] <arrik> brenner what was the site you sent me before?
[08:41] <intelikey> siorai hmm preinstalled but not active might be more like it.  iptables is the firewall
[08:42] <siorai> hm
[08:42] <brenner> ubotu: tell siorai about firewall
[08:42] <intelikey> siorai firestarter is the config app for iptables methinks
[08:43] <Squee-D> http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-3-386 can i use apt-get to get this package somehow?
[08:43] <Squee-D> better yet. wheres a good intro to apt-get
[08:43] <brenner> intelikey: xfce is popular
[08:43] <intelikey> it's not very light anymore though.
[08:43] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[08:43] <ubotu> from memory, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[08:44] <siorai> hmm
[08:44] <polpak> Squee-D, you can just type sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[08:44] <Squee-D> polpak yeah it wasnt finding it
[08:44] <Squee-D> soe i was confused
[08:44] <polpak> Squee-D, or you can just use synaptic
[08:44] <intelikey> i might as well use kde if i go that heavy brenner
[08:44] <brenner> intelikey: what about blackbox/fluxbox, icewm
[08:44] <Squee-D> is synaptic a gui?
[08:44] <siorai> !firestarter
[08:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[08:44] <polpak> Squee-D, you may need to configure your repositories to include universe and multiverse
[08:44] <polpak> Squee-D, yes
[08:44] <polpak> Squee-D, synaptic is a gui for apt-get
[08:44] <Squee-D> ahhh i see
[08:45] <fredforfaen> brenner try openbox with pypanel or fbpanel...works for me...very low ram usage
[08:45] <Squee-D> well i dont but i assume they are outside of 'breezy'
[08:45] <intelikey> yeah flux is good.   icewm might be ok.......     ah twm may be what i'm looking for.
[08:45] <polpak> Squee-D, linux-restricted-modules are in breezy. just not that version probably
[08:45] <polpak> Squee-D, did you put a version number when you used apt-get?
[08:46] <firebird619> Could someone please tell me what repositories I should have on Ubuntu 5.10 or where on the Internet I can find a list of which ones I should have. Ever since I installed 5.10 I get a warning message that says The following problems were found on your system and then it lists almost all of the repositories I do have. When I first installed 5.10 I changed everything that said hoary to say breezy, but that didn't help at all.
[08:46] <polpak> !linux-restricted-modules
[08:46] <ubotu> polpak: What?
[08:46] <Squee-D> i may have retrying now
[08:46] <Madpilot> !tell firebird619 about repos
[08:46] <intelikey> hehhe installing twm requires 625k dl   that i can handle
[08:46] <Squee-D> still cant find it without the version
[08:46] <polpak> Squee-D, one sec
[08:47] <intelikey> sorry 652k
[08:48] <siorai> See, the problem fellas is, no ports are open, period, I've forwarded them in my router, but still, nothing, and it's getting very frustrating
[08:48] <polpak> Squee-D, well I have them in my apt list. Are you sure you have the universe & multiverse repos on?
[08:48] <siorai> some guys on the forums have been having similiar problems, with no workign solution
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> firebird619: Did you do a dist-upgrade with apt, or install from something separate?
[08:49] <Squee-D> polpak not at all sure, i have breezy at the top of sources.list and it shows 'restricted' at the end
[08:49] <polpak> siorai, what's the issue?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> firebird619: I have main, universe, multiverse, restricted.
[08:49] <siorai> aMule polpak, I can't get it off lowID, I've ran port scanning stuff, and nothing gets through
[08:49] <firebird619> I installed from the Ubuntu 5.10 CD
[08:50] <Tikakan> Morning people
[08:50] <Squee-D> its called linux-restricted-modules in synaptic
[08:50] <Madpilot> siorai: have you used Firestarter to explictly open whatever ports aMule uses? I had to do that with BitTorrent
[08:50] <polpak> Squee-D, yep. linux-restriced-modules-2.6.12-10
[08:50] <siorai> No, I didn't, and I have no idea how to do that either
[08:51] <polpak> siorai, is aMule a server?
[08:51] <Squee-D> dunno why apt-get did not see it
[08:51] <Squee-D> already installed it seems
[08:51] <siorai> No polpak, it's a client
[08:51] <intelikey> siorai if iptables is the reason    'iptables -L '  should show it methinks
[08:51] <polpak> intelikey, yeah, but Breezy doesn't have a firewall by default
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Is mencoder cross-platform?
[08:52] <siorai> !pastebin
[08:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:52] <polpak> siorai,  when the client is running can you do netstat -an | grep LISTEN and see the port that it uses LISTENING?
[08:52] <Madpilot> siorai: you'll need to check Google or somewhere to find out which ports aMule uses, then install Firestarter - it's got a lot of pre-defined stuff, so aMule settings might already be in there (BitTorrent settings were)
[08:53] <siorai> Well, I just installed it...
[08:53] <polpak> Madpilot, it's not needed to install a firewall to ALLOW access. Only to block it. Since no firewall rules are on by default in Ubuntu
[08:53] <siorai> apperently the default port for ED2K is 4662...
[08:53] <Madpilot> polpak: I thought so too, but the fact remains that I had to open BitTorrent's ports to get it to work here...
[08:53] <siorai> Buuut.... I can't access ANY ports, after I ran scans for the first 30,000 I stopped and gave up : /
[08:54] <ofir> hello all - good morning :)
[08:54] <polpak> Madpilot, I don't have firestarter installed, and use Bittorrent just fine
[08:54] <ofir> cant install skype , can someone help me ?
[08:54] <polpak> siorai, the reason ubuntu doesn't have a firewall by default is because all the listening processes are configured to not listen on external interfaces
[08:55] <Madpilot> polpak: I did have - I have Apache installed too - and it blocks BT by default
[08:55] <polpak> siorai, do a netstat -an | grep LISTEN and post the contents to pastebin
[08:55] <brenner> ubotu: tell ofir about skype
[08:55] <polpak> siorai, when you have the client running
[08:56] <Squee-D> How does a network interface know which module to use?
[08:56] <siorai> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5776
[08:57] <Syntux> which is better SDram or DD ?
[08:57] <siorai> DDR?
[08:57] <polpak> siorai, do you know what port it is supposed to use?
[08:57] <siorai> 25600
[08:57] <siorai> well, supposed to use 4662
[08:57] <siorai> But a lot of ISP's have it banned, heh
[08:57] <polpak> you sure it's not supposed to use 4660 ?
[08:57] <siorai> So I made the switch to 25600...
[08:58] <Syntux> Sionide,  yes DDR or SD ram ?
[08:58] <polpak> cause it looks like that's the only thing listening to the outside world
[08:58] <siorai> DDR ram of cuorse Syntux
[08:58] <intelikey> oh my this is really messed up.  cant reach a console from X    eeek !
[08:58] <siorai> Ugh...
[08:59] <polpak> siorai, are you on DSL or cable modem?
[08:59] <siorai> DSL modem, BEFW11S4
[08:59] <siorai> Well, wireless router to be specific
[08:59] <polpak> siorai, did you set your computer to be DMZ host, or forward the port?
[09:00] <siorai> My router is set to forward the port to my ip...
[09:00] <polpak> siorai, which port?
[09:00] <polpak> siorai, or ports
[09:00] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[09:00] <siorai> anything from 4000-5000 and 20000 to 30000 just to be on the sure side (not exactly safe I know)
[09:01] <polpak> siorai, it's fine so long as you aren't running any servers listening to the outside
[09:01] <polpak> siorai, so here's my assessment
[09:01] <polpak> siorai, oh, is firestarter still installed?
[09:02] <siorai> Yeah
[09:02] <polpak> siorai, either remove it or set it to open for now
[09:02] <royce> how do you make a program start with x?
[09:02] <siorai> How do I set it to open?
[09:02] <polpak> royce, system->preferences->session
[09:03] <polpak> siorai, launch the firestarter program and you should have an option for 'off' or open
[09:03] <intelikey> royce alt+f2
[09:03] <intelikey> depends on what you are asking
[09:04] <inx> can somebody give me the sorces.list for da Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)?
[09:04] <siorai> it's 'off'
[09:04] <intelikey> !repos
[09:04] <polpak> siorai, ok, now with firestarter off you still are unable to get the connection working?
[09:04] <siorai> *nods*
[09:05] <Squee-D> hallelujah! I got my wireless card working
[09:05] <ofir> how to install deb files ? in kubuntu i right cliked the deb and pushed intall in ubuntu it dosent work
[09:05] <polpak> siorai, ok, well the client is clearly listening to port 4660
[09:05] <inx> Is here somebody RUSSIAN?
 A list of official repositories can be found at
[09:05] <intelikey>           http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or
[09:05] <intelikey>           http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own
[09:05] <kurros> ofir: i'm not sure on a GUI, i have always done dpkg --install .deb from gnome-terminal
[09:06] <polpak> siorai, the only reason I can come up with for connectivity problems is a) your router isn't correctly forwarding the port or b) your ISP is blocking traffic on that port
[09:06] <polpak> siorai, because as far as your system is concerned port 4660 is open for business
[09:06] <siorai> this crap is starting to get to me : /
[09:06] <inx> CAN SOMEBODY give me the sorces.list for da Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary)
[09:07] <siorai> Thank ou very much for everything thuogh polpak
[09:07] <Nameeater> !apt
[09:07] <polpak> siorai, if you suspect it's your ISP you can try changing the port number
[09:07] <siorai> I have ; /
[09:07] <siorai> several times
[09:07] <polpak> siorai, and confirm that the client is listening on the new port you specified with netstat -an
[09:07] <Madpilot> !tell inx about repos
[09:08] <polpak> siorai, does your router have an option for DMZ host?
[09:08] <inx> ok..
[09:08] <inx> thats da support chanel..
[09:08] <Madpilot> inx: if ubotu didn't reach you, here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary)
[09:08] <siorai> polpak yes, what exactly IS DMZ host?
[09:08] <polpak> siorai, it basically means the router will forward all inbound connection attempts to your computer
[09:09] <polpak> siorai, as if you said to forward all ports
[09:09] <polpak> siorai, you can remove the port forwarding you set up before and just set yourself as the DMZ host
[09:09] <siorai> Got it!
[09:09] <kurros> unless your roommate makes a UPnP request, grrr.
[09:10] <siorai> Okay, but I'm not the only one on this network
[09:10] <polpak> siorai, that's ok
[09:10] <inx> Madpilot, thank you...
[09:10] <polpak> siorai, is anyone else needing to accept incomming connections?
[09:10] <siorai> I have no idea
[09:11] <siorai> My buddy plays Diablo 2, and surfs, that's about it, heh
[09:11] <polpak> siorai, are you currently forwarding any ports to any other computers?
[09:11] <siorai> Nope
[09:11] <siorai> I'll keep it up like this for a while
[09:11] <siorai> thank you thank you thank yuo!
[09:11] <polpak> siorai, then you're ok to set yourself as DMZ
[09:12] <siorai> I've already told several dozen people about Ubuntu, hehe
[09:12] <polpak> siorai, cause all it means is "forward all ports to this ip"
[09:12] <siorai> I _adore_ this community that I'm now a part of :)
[09:12] <siorai> *nods* that's what i gathered when I read the site
[09:12] <polpak> siorai, and if nobody else needed ports forwarded to them before then they won't need them now either
[09:12] <siorai> Good point
[09:12] <gvoltios> hi
[09:12] <gvoltios> help
[09:12] <siorai> My torrent shuold probably run more smoothly now huh?
[09:12] <polpak> siorai, yep
[09:12] <gvoltios> tengo un error en ubuntu
[09:13] <gvoltios> me sale el siguiente mensaje
[09:13] <gvoltios> the application cannot be started an internal error occurred
[09:13] <polpak> siorai, you can uninstall firestarter now if you want
[09:13] <polpak> siorai, it's not really nessicary
[09:13] <gvoltios> al ejecutar openoffice
[09:13] <siorai> Ah
[09:13] <siorai> Well, thank yuo very much
[09:13] <polpak> siorai, no problem
[09:13] <siorai> I'm most definately pleased
[09:13] <royce> what's an easy way to find where a program is installed to, in order to reference it later?
[09:13] <polpak> siorai, glad I could help
[09:13] <polpak> royce, a program, or just any file?
[09:13] <ofir>  kurros - ubuntu suppose to be easy there is no gui installer for deb files (kubuntu and suse has)
[09:14] <royce> polpak: a program, i'm trying to make gaim start w/ x
[09:14] <polpak> in a console type 'which gaim'
[09:14] <polpak> royce, it will tell you where it is
[09:15] <royce> thanx
[09:15] <awb4422> i'm trying to mount an ext3 partition so all users can write to it.. in /etc/fstab the only options i have listed is 'defaults' .... I've tried explicitly setting rw as an option, but I still cant write to the drive.. anything i'm missing?
[09:15] <polpak> royce, are you using 'system->preferences->sessions' ?
[09:15] <royce> polpak: yes
[09:16] <polpak> royce, ah, ok
[09:16] <royce> polpak: what does the which command do?
[09:16] <polpak> awb4422, if you want all users to write to it, you need to set the permissions on it properly
[09:16] <royce> it worked great
[09:16] <brenner> man which
[09:16] <polpak> royce, tells you what program will be run if you type a command
[09:17] <awb4422> polpak: i thought w/ ext3 you could do that with fstab... and that only xfs you had to do that..guess not
[09:17] <intelikey> royce any command you want to know what does before you run it, try  'man <command> '
[09:17] <polpak> awb4422, take a look at the permissions for /tmp
[09:17] <Milenko_The_Snow> i hate man pages
[09:17] <Milenko_The_Snow> gimme a classic README and im fine
[09:17] <Milenko_The_Snow> :P
[09:17] <intelikey> royce example 'man man '
[09:17] <polpak> awb4422, it's a directory that anyone can write to
[09:17] <awb4422> yeah no i know how to change them.. i didnt know you had to do it that way
[09:17] <awb4422> thx tho
[09:18] <polpak> noooo
[09:18] <polpak> not ubotu
[09:18] <melalcoolique> hi !
[09:18] <polpak> =(
[09:18] <DanielHolth> Anyone having trouble with ntpd and ubuntu 5.10?
[09:18] <intelikey> Milenko_The_Snow you probably hate the less filter also.....
[09:19] <intelikey> DanielHolth you setting up a time server ?
[09:19] <Mabus06> someone have a simple gif making program to reccomend?
[09:19] <Mabus06> animated I should specify
[09:19] <DanielHolth> I have wacky ntp sych problems
[09:19] <Madpilot> Mabus06: I think there's an amination plugin for the GIMP
[09:20] <ofir> buntu suppose to be easy there is no gui installer for deb files (kubuntu and suse has)  ???
[09:20] <polpak> ofir, yes there is
[09:20] <polpak> ofir, synaptic
[09:21] <brenner> hehe
[09:21] <Mabus06> Madpilot, GIMP confuses me, I'd rather something closer to MS paint in terms of drawing.
[09:21] <polpak> Mabus06, there's OpenOffice Draw
[09:21] <Mabus06> I'll check it out, polpak
[09:21] <Mabus06> thanks
[09:22] <polpak> Mabus06, I don't know if it does animation though
[09:22] <leevi> has someone installed cedega CVS?
[09:22] <intelikey> Mabus06 kpaint
[09:22] <polpak> leevi, nah,  I use wine
[09:23] <Mabus06> intelikey, that sounds simpler. :)
[09:23] <dcj> hi... can someone point me to the wiki site that tells how to install multimedia codecs and java?
[09:23] <intelikey> i have me doubts that it does animi tho
[09:23] <Mabus06> oh..
[09:23] <dcj> i cannot seem to find it... i'm running ubuntu  5.04
[09:24] <ofir> the synaptic doesnt have opera and skype in it kynaptic has but is not working in ubunto
[09:24] <leevi> I'm just asking 'cos I installed it with a script and I don't know where it put some of the files
[09:24] <intelikey> Mabus06 you can try it.....  cause idk
[09:24] <Methynutnut> polpak, is wine actually available using synaptic? Or hidden as part of some other package?
[09:25] <UbuntuRob> dcj, do a search in the ubuntu forums for "win32 codecs" and Java you can install with the ADD APPLICATION feature under the APPLICATIONS menu. make sure to add all repositories!!
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> dcj: You can get Java with apt.
[09:25] <Mabus06> ubotu, tell Methynutnut about wine
[09:25] <Mabus06> I had to use CVS, Methynutnut
[09:25] <polpak> Methynutnut, it's available in universe or multiverse
[09:25] <Mabus06> as per ubotu's instructions
[09:25] <Methynutnut> ow ok
[09:26] <Methynutnut> polpak, I have both those repos, but there's no wine package. just xwine, and a "dummy" libwine
[09:26] <polpak> Methynutnut, or you can use the latest release from winehq by adding their ubuntu repo
[09:26] <Methynutnut> ah ok
[09:26] <intelikey> Mabus06 is the bot working for you ?
[09:26] <Mabus06> intelikey, bot?
[09:26] <dcj> in 5.04? i do not see the ADD APPLICATION?
[09:26] <intelikey> yes bot.
[09:26] <Mabus06> intelikey, you mean you remember when I was trying to get the blootbots to work? nope. didn't work
[09:26] <polpak> intelikey, the bot got disconnected
[09:27] <polpak> Methynutnut, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[09:27] <intelikey> as in u-bot-u
[09:27] <UbuntuRob> ok, i haven't used 5.04, i'm using Breezy
[09:27] <polpak> intelikey, it got disconnected
[09:27] <Mabus06> Oh, you mean ubotu.
[09:27] <Mabus06> Yeah he's not there, didn't notice.
[09:28] <dcj> hmm.. ya i have an hp laptop....
[09:28] <intelikey> polpak yea and i was trying to point that out in a nice way......
[09:28] <polpak> intelikey, oh lol
[09:28] <polpak> intelikey, too subtle for me
[09:28] <UbuntuRob> dcj, search in synaptic for "Blackdown Java" (add all repositories!)
[09:28] <Methynutnut> polpak, found it, thanks
[09:31] <Methynutnut> aargh apt-get update keeps ignoring the wine repos for some reason
[09:32] <polpak> Methynutnut, really?
[09:32] <polpak> Methynutnut, works fine for me
[09:33] <Methynutnut> Ign http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Release.gpg
[09:33] <royce> may not be the place to ask, is there a recognized best ftp client?
[09:33] <intelikey> not really royce
[09:33] <Madpilot> royce: gFTP seems to be the only GUI FTP client going - too bad it's awful :(
[09:34] <inx> Is here somebody who speak russian?
[09:34] <polpak> royce, FTP is a terrible protocol anyway ;p
[09:34] <Jowi> goodmorning all
[09:34] <Madpilot> Nautilus does some basic FTP stuff quite well, actually
[09:35] <polpak> Madpilot, agreed. If you must use FTP you may as well just set it up in the file manager
[09:35] <muep> isn't ftp quite useful for some simple, lightweight tasks?
[09:35] <rambo3> it s just a protocol
[09:35] <polpak> muep, no more so than SFTP, and SFTP is secure and doesn't require the stupid passive/nonpassive option
[09:36] <Madpilot> Filezilla is finally working on a Linux port, that'll be nice - funny, that's one of the few Windows apps I actually miss!
[09:36] <polpak> Methynutnut, any luck?
[09:37] <royce> polpak: is there a quality sftp client?
[09:37] <rambo3> gftp
[09:37] <aztek> is there a reason why my res is stuck @ 640x480 even after i edited the xorg.conf?? heh
[09:37] <polpak> royce, what are you trying to do?
[09:37] <Jowi> how can i make ytalk accept connections in an xterm? example: user1 logged in via ssh, user2 logged in in X with an xterm open. user1 request talk with user2 but get "user1 refusing..." even when "mesg y" is set in the xterm.
[09:37] <rambo3> that is ssh2 on port 22
[09:37] <polpak> royce, most stuff can just be done with nautilus if you need a gui
[09:37] <intelikey> hmmm there seem to be a lot of ftp clients   'apt-cache search ftp | less'
[09:38] <royce> polpak: i have an ftp server on my home machine, i'm remote, I do regular tasks like updating my website, and general file movement
[09:38] <polpak> royce, click places->connect to server
[09:38] <Jowi> aztek: might be driver or the monitor/resolution setup. post your xorg.conf in the pastebin. also LCD or CRT?
[09:38] <aztek> CRT
[09:38] <polpak> royce, select SSH or FTP as the protocol and put in the info
[09:38] <muep> aztek: are your refresh rate settings correct?
[09:39] <intelikey> kbear any good ?
[09:39] <polpak> royce, it will make a directory on the virtual FS you can use like it was part of your filesystem
[09:39] <royce> polpak: sweet, thanx
[09:39] <Jowi> aztek: also, have you checked the resolution wiki?
[09:39] <Jowi> !resolution
[09:40] <polpak> ubotu is MIA
[09:40] <Jowi> ah
[09:40] <royce> any word on how to install firefox 1.5 while avoiding serious hassle?
[09:40] <Jowi> hmmm
[09:40] <Madpilot> we're botless! :(
[09:40] <polpak> royce, wait for dapper =p
[09:40] <polpak> alas, ubotu.. I knew him well
[09:41] <Jowi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:41] <mikey_> drat
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> royce: !firefox15
[09:41] <Jowi> aztek: check that link ^^^
[09:41] <polpak> lol
[09:41] <polpak> tonyyarusso, he's gone man. just gone.
[09:42] <Jowi> anyone got a solution for my ytalk prob? btw, ytalking between consoles work fine.
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Oh, right.
[09:44] <rambo3> random unknown app to me
[09:44] <Methynutnut> note to self, just get i386 because no one writes software for amd64 yet >.<
[09:45] <teroedni> Methynunut?
[09:45] <teroedni> whats wrong
[09:45] <teroedni> i find 64 bit to be nice:D
[09:45] <theCore> Methynutnut, ubuntu x86-64 ?
[09:45] <Methynutnut> yeah
[09:46] <polpak> Methynutnut, you working with the wine repo still?
[09:46] <Methynutnut> I'm just whining because I'm notoriously bad at getting wine to install from source
[09:46] <polpak> Methynutnut, you can use the source repo
[09:46] <Methynutnut> polpak, well it wouldn't, so I went in and downloaded the .deb manually, which won't install because it's the wrong arch lol
[09:46] <Methynutnut> oh, so I do that weird build-dep & build from source thing?
[09:46] <polpak> Methynutnut, which is probably why the binary repo didn't work either =o
[09:46] <Jowi> it's hard even to get wine working even after installing it with binaries ;)
[09:47] <polpak> Jowi, the latest version have been fairly straightforward
[09:47] <Methynutnut> yeah probably lol
[09:47] <Methynutnut> ah well, I'll look at it later. can't be bothered downloading 77MB of build tools right now
[09:48] <Jowi> polpak: yeah, fairly. i had it working great. then one day it just refuses to run any .exe files and without any errors. just let it go from there since i don't really need it anyway :)
[09:48] <leevi> how can I create a virtual dvd drive?
[09:48] <ofir> the synaptic doesnt have opera and skype in it kynaptic has but is not working in ubunto
[09:48] <Jowi> leevi: what do you mean?
[09:49] <ofir> i was able to intsll the skype  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SkypeHowto/
[09:49] <Madpilot> ofir: Opera is easy to install - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[09:49] <ofir> :)
[09:49] <rambo3> non-free
[09:49] <leevi> jowi, I need to instal a game from .bin file...
[09:49] <ofir> opera in non free ?
[09:50] <Madpilot> ofir: it's "free as in beer", but not open-source...
[09:50] <theCore> rambo3, opera is open source
[09:50] <Madpilot> theCore: no it's not, actually... but it's still better than that well-known open-source browser ;)
[09:51] <rambo3> where do i download opera source
[09:51] <intelikey> any one know a way to kill an app from twm when it doesn't have a kill option in the menu ?    is there a hot key ?
[09:51] <theCore> !opera
[09:51] <Madpilot> theCore: we're botless again....
[09:51] <leevi> Jowi: I need to install a game from .bin file...
[09:51] <theCore> gosh ...
[09:52] <xirtus> hey first time using linux, first time using ubuntu, how do i get wine or free crossover, because niether of which are working for me/
[09:52] <intelikey> cafuego where's the bot ?
[09:52] <rambo3> !opera wont give me opera source anyway
[09:52] <polpak> xirtus, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[09:52] <xirtus> yeah i bin there
[09:52] <xirtus> didnt work
[09:52] <polpak> xirtus, are you using 32 bit arch?
[09:52] <xirtus> 64bit amd
[09:52] <theCore> intelikey, he is dead again ..
[09:53] <polpak> xirtus, ah.. then you have to get source apparently. I don't see any binaries for 64bit yet
[09:53] <Chousuke> hoh
[09:53] <xirtus> ah
[09:53] <polpak> xirtus, so install the source repo
[09:53] <xirtus> i am fortunes fool
[09:53] <polpak> xirtus, and build from there
[09:53] <Jowi> leevi: sorry, got a call. no idea about .bin files but it is possible to mount an .iso with the loopback interface
[09:53] <xirtus> i'll do my best, thanks polpak
[09:53] <polpak> xirtus, but you'll need build-essential
[09:53] <theCore> Jowi, yes
[09:54] <polpak> xirtus, don't give up on ubuntu though. It's great
[09:54] <xirtus> -ignorance) whats build essential
[09:54] <polpak> xirtus, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:54] <Chousuke> Someone here in this lecture hall just booted Breezy live CD on his laptop.
[09:54] <intelikey> Jowi .bin is usually exec *.bin
[09:54] <Chousuke> I must encourage him to install it too
[09:54] <polpak> xirtus, it's a package that allows you to build packages from source
[09:54] <xirtus> do i get it somewhere?''
[09:55] <polpak> xirtus, yes, either use synaptic or apt-get
[09:55] <theCore> xirtus, type 'sudo aptitude install build-essential' into the terminal
[09:55] <ofir> what is the cd of the desktop ?
[09:55] <leevi> Jowi: ok. maybe i just need to burn the game on cd...
[09:55] <intelikey> xirtus same place you should get most if not all software you install on ub  for the repos.
[09:55] <ggo> hello! i'm looking for something like isobuster, in order to acces to multicession cd roms any id? please.
[09:56] <Jowi> intelikey: okay. never created a virtual dvd from a bin so i have noidea :)
[09:56] <intelikey> Jowi ah dvd, i have the same lack of experance then....
[09:58] <intelikey> ggo xcdroast ?
[09:58] <theCore> ggo, or gnome baker ?
[09:58] <Jowi> leevi, i think it goes something like this: losetup /dev/loop quake3.iso (new line) mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop /quakecd (new line) cd /quakecd
[09:58] <intelikey> ggo k3b ?
[09:58] <ggo> intelikey: doest it allow reading multicessions ?
[09:59] <intelikey> yes
[09:59] <ggo> ok, il'l try thanks
[10:00] <intelikey> ggo allows read or write multi-session
[10:00] <leevi> Jowi: just started to burn the .bin isos to a proper cd. taugth that it's the easy way
[10:00] <intelikey> if read it all you want maybe just mount it.
[10:00] <ggo> intelikey: is that xcdroast?
[10:00] <intelikey> both
[10:01] <intelikey> k3b is probably more what you are after ggo
[10:01] <Jowi> leevi: yeah, it is the easiest way. but in case you need it in the future at least you know it is possible :)
[10:01] <leevi> jowi: thanks :)
[10:02] <ggo> intelikey : ,ok, what about the way gnome- unbuntu are mounting cdroms?
[10:02] <intelikey> what about ?
[10:02] <Jowi> leevi: it is very useful for when you have an .iso but want to add a few files to it before burning it.
[10:02] <Jowi> leevi: np
[10:03] <xirtus> hey if i build from the source a 64bit wine will it only be able to run 64 bit programs?
[10:03] <leevi> jowi: huh?
[10:03] <ggo> intelikey: got some music cd's that nautilus found full of win-exe and sound juicer sometime found music
[10:03] <rodentfiftysix> hey, does anyone know a way to play dvds on ubuntu? i just installed it today and i am trying to get it configured
[10:03] <theCore> ggo, under /media/cdrom
[10:03] <Jowi> leevi: np = no problem
[10:03] <rodentfiftysix> totem can't play the dvd for some reason
[10:04] <Jowi> rodentfiftysix: you need libdvdcss2
[10:04] <theCore> rodentfiftysix, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:04] <rodentfiftysix> ok, i'll try that
[10:04] <intelikey> ggo ah you don't mount cda  try something like bmp or totem and access cda that way.
[10:05] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know how to check the link speed of an ethernet network interface?
[10:05] <theCore> feugan3333, run 'ifconfig'
[10:06] <intelikey> feugan3333 or test with ping.
[10:06] <ggo> intelikey: the core : thanks got things to try now ...!
[10:06] <joedj> what do y'all recommend for watching TV? i've been using xawtv for ages, but would like something nicer
[10:06] <theCore> ggo, np
[10:06] <feugan3333> theCore: It's not under ifconfig, at least on my system.
[10:06] <joedj> i haven't been able to figure out how to make xine do it, though it has some configuration dialogs etc that suggest it's possible
[10:07] <Jowi> joedj: Sony 32" widescreens are nice ;)
[10:07] <Squee-D> feugan3333 ethtool
[10:07] <xirtus> hey i'm switching over from apple, is there anything quite like dashboard, itunes, or any of it?
[10:07] <Squee-D> 'ethtool eth0' for example
[10:07] <intelikey> joedj i recomend not watching tv.
[10:07] <Jowi> joedj: maybe you should try freevo
[10:07] <Jowi> or mythtv
[10:08] <Jowi> joedj: that will add some nice recording capabilities and scheduling
[10:08] <ofir> cant write to sources.list
[10:08] <theCore> ofir, sudo
[10:09] <Jowi> ofir: "sudo gedit sources.list"
[10:09] <ofir> thanks
[10:10] <Jowi> need to restart x. brb
[10:11] <Jowi> wierd. ytalk accepts connections from xterm -> console, but not console -> xterm
[10:11] <ofir> how do i get to directory ect/apt ?
[10:12] <Jowi> ofir: cd /etc/apt
[10:13] <ofir> thanks
[10:14] <Jowi> ofir: you should have a look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandlineHowto
[10:14] <Jowi> ofir: you need the info in those pages
[10:15] <ejofee> is there any way to display images in a non-x11 terminal?
[10:16] <rambo3> ascii images
[10:17] <Jowi> ejofee: yes. but i haven't done that in a few years so i forgot which app. you also need a graphic card that support natively wierd resolutions probably.
[10:17] <intelikey> 
[10:17] <burepe1> i have the repositories set up but what are the packages i need to view windows video and audio?
[10:18] <windowmaker> oh gosh
[10:18] <M_Cheevy> burepe1: are you in Synaptic?  you might want to try the search utility.. change it to search descriptions too
[10:18] <ofir> thanks
[10:18] <Jowi> burepe1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:18] <burepe1> adept
[10:19] <burepe1> there are a lot of codecs
[10:19] <windowmaker> oh gosh, i tried to install "LILO" and then it asked if i wanted to write over my old bootloader (i used grub) and then when i finished it said that it failed and i may not be able to boot up linux, whole output is here www.pastebin.com/464974
[10:19] <burepe1> aren't there
[10:19] <burepe1> thanks jowi
[10:19] <M_Cheevy> windowmaker: have you tried 'dpkg-reconfigure grub'?
[10:19] <ejofee> Jowi: would nvidia typically be ok?
[10:19] <windowmaker> M_Cheevy: nope, thanks, i'll try that, and tell you what happens
[10:20] <windowmaker> M_Cheevy: no output, is that supposed to happen?
[10:20] <Jowi> ejofee: no idea. back in the days i had a Cirrus Logic card.
[10:20] <M_Cheevy> I'll be here, the ubuntu is downloading the kde stuff (kubuntu?)
[10:20] <ejofee> Jowi: i see
[10:20] <ejofee> Jowi: thank you
[10:20] <M_Cheevy> windowmaker: it doesn't have to be too interactive... now I think the command is 'grub-install'?
[10:21] <windowmaker> M_Cheevy: okay
[10:21] <sethk> M_Cheevy, you can use grub-install, or you can run the grub shell and enter commands
[10:21] <M_Cheevy> sorry, I'm on sata raid so i have to use the shell
[10:21] <Jowi> ejofee: i might have found something
[10:21] <windowmaker> M_Cheevy: i don't understand grub-install, are there any parameters to be used?
[10:21] <rambo3> hda or hd0
[10:22] <rambo3> grub-install (where)
[10:22] <M_Cheevy> windowmaker: I use the shell, sethk might be able to tell you about the grub-install
[10:22] <ejofee> Jowi: where / what?
[10:22] <Jowi> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/svga/
[10:22] <M_Cheevy> rambo: wouldn't that be /dev/hd0 or /dev/hda3 or where-ever
[10:23] <rambo3> yeah probobly ,
[10:23] <M_Cheevy> rambo3: just asking so I know for future advice
[10:23] <Jowi> ejofee: sorry, should be here (look for grav) http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Graphics/Viewers/index.shtml
[10:23] <Jaymac> bah...
[10:24] <Jaymac> it's 9.23..  I have a lecture in half an hour, and I'm still absolutely wasted
[10:24] <Jowi> ejofee: zgv should also do it
[10:24] <theCore> M_Cheevy, no grub doesn't use the /dev/ notation
[10:24] <Jowi> ejofee: http://www.svgalib.org/rus/zgv/
[10:24] <M_Cheevy> theCore: wasn't sure, I know the shell uses the (hd0,3) thang
[10:25] <intelikey> ha mkfs.vfat  E; command not found.   bah
[10:25] <xirtus> hey did you guys know they have xdvdshrink for linux at sourceforge? (thats fucking awesome)
[10:25] <ejofee> Jowi: thank you. (i am trying to get images viewable in w3m-img...)
[10:25] <ejofee> Jowi: btw, are you familiar with w3m-img?
[10:25] <rambo3> m_Cheevy http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub-install.html
[10:25] <Jowi> ejofee: nope
[10:25] <M_Cheevy> xirtus: is there a dvdDecrypter clone as well?
[10:25] <rambo3> it does use /dev/hda
[10:26] <theCore> rambo3, really ?
[10:26] <Frosty> wussup all
[10:26] <ejofee> Jowi: it's a console browser. i've just discovered it and is much better than either lynx or links (imo)
[10:26] <Squee-D> is there a way fo finding out what parms were passed to the kernel?
[10:26] <Jowi> ejofee: cool. will check it out right now i think :)
[10:26] <ejofee> Jowi: in fact, the browser is w3m
[10:27] <ejofee> Jowi: w3m-img is the plugin for showing images in the console (!)
[10:27] <Frosty> I'm a linux newbie
[10:27] <M_Cheevy> Squee-D: you mean what options where used to make the kernel?
[10:27] <M_Cheevy> welcome frosty
[10:27] <ejofee> Jowi: it seems to work in xterm, but not in a non-x11, non-virtual terminal
[10:27] <ejofee> Frosty: do you need help?
[10:27] <Frosty> Tonight, me take wood and make FIRE!! (got limewire working and upgraded java)
[10:28] <Jowi> ejofee: did you install the w3mmee-img package?
[10:28] <M_Cheevy> Frosty: congrats!   the feelings of accomplishment! welcome to linux!
[10:28] <Frosty> No, just checking stuff out, I like this X-chat ... it looks better hten Mirc
[10:28] <Squee-D> M_Cheevy nah the ones used in the boot loader
[10:28] <M_Cheevy> Squee-D: using grub?
[10:29] <Frosty> I did have problems during install if anything would like to hear about it
[10:29] <Squee-D> M_Cheevy yeah i am.. but i wanna be sure the default menu item i set is the one that got called
[10:29] <Frosty> probably a known issue
[10:29] <theCore> ejofee, it's work, lol now, i see images in my term
[10:29] <ejofee> Jowi: no! i thought w3m-img was the only one needed!
[10:29] <Squee-D> im having a nightmare with apm and acpi
[10:29] <M_Cheevy> Squee-D: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:29] <ejofee> theCore: what do you think about w3m? ain't it just COOL?
[10:30] <Squee-D> omg
[10:30] <M_Cheevy> Frosty: I just finished a software sata raid 0 install, don't tell me about install issues ;)
[10:30] <Squee-D> you didnt read what i said
[10:30] <Squee-D> i tried to beat you to actually suggesting i looked there :P
[10:30] <theCore> ejofee, i'm a w3m user
[10:30] <Frosty> It actualy wasn't anyhting major
[10:30] <Jowi> ejofee: actually, i think you're right
[10:31] <Frosty> I am having issues with DVD codecs and Windows media player codecs for totem
[10:31] <theCore> ejofee, so w3m having image in my term is kinda cool but wierd
[10:31] <Frosty> but I have pretty much given up
[10:31] <M_Cheevy> Squee-D: ah... I think I see what you mean... let me think on this..if you were using a different kernel version it would be one thing....
[10:31] <Jowi> Frosty: all is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:31] <Squee-D> M_Cheevy yah i just thought maybe it showed up in /proc somewhere?
[10:32] <windowmaker> M_Cheevy: i rebooted, grub worked okay, and then when X started i went to do liloconfig again, bceause i knwe if anything stuffed up i could use a livecd to fix it.... but when i rebooted again grub was still active, it didn't have lilo!
[10:32] <M_Cheevy> Squee-D: you could see if certain modules were loaded, but not sure about those params...
[10:32] <Frosty> thankyou very much Frosty, I will go through that tomorrow
[10:32] <Squee-D> im trying to disable acpi and apm
[10:33] <M_Cheevy> Squee-D: have you googled on '<parameter> +verifying +kernel'?
[10:33] <Frosty> I downloaded codecs and put them where they were suppose to be, Mplayer even found them, but still would not get me do it
[10:33] <Squee-D> they cause all manner of strife in the latest kernels with my mobo
[10:33] <ejofee> Jowi: and does it work?
[10:33] <ejofee> theCore: ohh, i thought you were a newbye to it (then how come you didn't know it supported images?!) :)
[10:34] <Frosty> I find now the only thing that keeps me keeping microsoft is World of Warcraft
[10:34] <Squee-D> No.. but now i have, not helping me :)
[10:34] <inaki> hello
[10:34] <inaki> aborts
[10:34] <ejofee> inaki: hello
[10:34] <Frosty> Hi Amaki
[10:34] <Jowi> ejofee: got the same prob as you. images in xterm but not in console. think it must be because the console is not in svga. got a built in video chip so i doubt i can set a good videomode for the console.
[10:34] <Frosty> Hi inaki I mean lol
[10:34] <theCore> Frosty, cedega it's a game emulator for linux and you will be able to play w3 in linux
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> stupid question, but does IE run in ubuntu? I want to test a site under development... but not in only one browser...
[10:35] <Frosty> I hate the idea of paying 5 dollars a month on top of the game subscription
[10:35] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, only with an emulator
[10:35] <inx> Hi guys..do somebody know where i can get good mpeg (*.mpeg, *.mpg) player for Hungehog?
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> sethk , wine?
[10:36] <Frosty> I have looked at Cedega
[10:36] <ejofee> Jowi: would you please let me know when/if it works?
[10:36] <Jowi> ejofee: think that you must specify a display mode in grub for the consoles
[10:36] <Jowi> ejofee: sure
[10:36] <M_Cheevy> Frosty: sorry, dude, coming up empty
[10:36] <ejofee> Jowi: i use lilo :(
[10:36] <Frosty> lol
[10:36] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, I haven't tested it myself.  some people say wine manages with it, others say it's too unstable.  I haven't tested cedega
[10:36] <Jowi> ejofee: lilo should be able as well
[10:36] <ofir> thanks the opera beavies like a fire fox , i need somethink which will behave as ie what to do
[10:36] <inx> Hi guys..do somebody know where i can get good mpeg (*.mpeg, *.mpg) player for Hungehog?
[10:36] <Frosty> there is another piece of software, it is still in development though
[10:37] <ofir> my mother want her bank acount to work
[10:37] <M_Cheevy> bbl
[10:37] <ejofee> Jowi: however, which one is responsible for showing pictures, w3m-img, or w3mmee-img?
[10:37] <Frosty> Well, I promised the wife I would be in bed by 3, it's 4 now, so I gotta go lol
[10:37] <Frosty> thanks for the quick chat and help guys
[10:37] <theCore> ejofee,  w3m-img
[10:38] <Jowi> ejofee: w3m-img it seems
[10:38] <inx> guuuys....can somebody give me an ADVICE?... what player play mpeg (*.mpg, *.mpeg) under Linux?
[10:39] <Jowi> ejofee: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
[10:39] <theCore> inx https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:41] <Jowi> inx: all of them basicly. if you follow the link theCore provided
[10:41] <inx> thanx guys...
[10:42] <gabriel> hello
[10:42] <xspades> morning
[10:43] <gabriel> hey can I get some help?
[10:43] <Jowi> gabriel: ask and you may be lucky. be specific :)
[10:43] <gabriel> well
[10:43] <gabriel> I tried to install dapper
[10:44] <gabriel> the second
[10:44] <Frosty> Guys, is their software for flash development?
[10:44] <Frosty> Flash, such as macromedia?
[10:44] <gabriel> but i had problem with my onboard network card
[10:44] <stewski> are their any figures for the number of users running ubuntu?
[10:44] <stewski> there even
[10:44] <gabriel> marvell network card
[10:44] <gabriel> I opened a shell
[10:45] <rambo3> stewski check distwatch
[10:45] <chaumurky> possibly iso D/L's
[10:45] <gabriel> a load the sk98lin module
[10:45] <stewski> cheers rambo
[10:45] <gabriel> but it didnt work
[10:45] <gabriel> any ideas?
[10:45] <ejofee> Jowi: does it already work for you in a tty?
[10:46] <gabriel> i chek
[10:46] <gabriel> and the module was there
[10:46] <sanjay> anyone know how to install drivers for the Linksys Wireless Card model WPC54G or a good site to search? turned up zilch on the web so far ..
[10:46] <stewski> you got a url for distwatch rambo3
[10:46] <gabriel> I didnt get any errors
[10:46] <Squee-D> sanjay dya know who makes the chipset for it?
[10:46] <rambo3> i guess its distrowatch.com
[10:47] <Jowi> ejofee: i have not enabled framebuffer for the console, so it won't work. the link i gave show how to set up framebuffer (640x480 256 colours for example) with lilo :)
[10:47] <sanjay> Squee - mm.. it says Linksys a Division of Cisco systems - i guess Cisco ...
[10:47] <Jowi> gabriel: the nic is wireless or cable?
[10:47] <gabriel> is cable
[10:47] <sanjay> Squee - the Linksys site has all the drivers for Windows ... nothing at all for linuxers ..
[10:48] <Jowi> gabriel: model number?
[10:48] <Squee-D> broadcomm
[10:49] <stewski> "A Linux distribution is like a religion." from distro wtach made me laff
[10:49] <Squee-D> sanjay you might have to try the ndis wrapper
[10:49] <Jowi> stewski: but there's only one TRUE distro. everyone knows that ;)
[10:49] <stewski> lmao Jowi
[10:49] <sanjay> Squee: aye - thats what something told me - have no idea what ndis wrapper is -- is it to import Windows driver files to the Linux OS ?
[10:49] <Myrtti> Jowi: pfft. What ever gets you high is good.
[10:50] <stewski> is that "brian"?
[10:50] <gabriel> this the module with my ubuntu Breezy
[10:50] <sanjay> sanjay: and do i need to download a package for ndis wrapper ?
[10:50] <gabriel> sk98lin               183844  1
[10:50] <gabriel> gabriel@otilia:~$ uname -a
[10:50] <gabriel> Linux otilia 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:13:36 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:50] <Myrtti> but that's offtopic anyway
[10:50] <Jowi> Myrtti: hehe
[10:50] <Myrtti> --> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <Zambba> btw, is there any way to play copy-protected cd:s in Ubuntu? :/
[10:51] <Squee-D> sanjay yes thats what its for
[10:51] <Myrtti> Zambba: but that's illegal soon, you know... :-/
[10:51] <stewski> most copy protection CDs can be beaten with physical means Zambba
[10:51] <Squee-D> sanjay: but im reading around, some people say the atherton stuff works for it
[10:51] <Zambba> Myrtti: I do know
[10:51] <Squee-D> i dont think you looked to hard on google mind you
[10:51] <Jowi> gabriel: no, what model is the Marvell nic? and do you get errors when modprobing the sk98lin? if not, what does "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" do?
[10:51] <joedj> intelikey: family guy and futurama are on tv.
[10:52] <Myrtti> ******** Karpela
[10:52] <EvilOnyX> does anyone know how 2 allow apache and php write accews 2 home directories
[10:52] <stewski> usualy a black felt on the outer rim removes the false session that locks up the drive
[10:52] <gabriel> Jowi
[10:52] <gabriel> I and running Breezy
[10:52] <burepe1> how can i tell if my comp is 386, 586 or 686?
[10:52] <gabriel> and the card is working
[10:52] <Myrtti> by the processor purchase date
[10:52] <EvilOnyX> i need 2 access a webpage and then delete files that r listed in my home dir
[10:52] <gabriel> I tried intall dapper
[10:52] <Zambba> &whois Myrtti
[10:52] <Myrtti> the original purchase date
[10:52] <sanjay> Squee-D: can i download the ndis wrapper package or is it default installed? (i got some instructions on using ndis wrapper - i'll try that and then move on to Atherton if u can send me a link..)
[10:53] <gabriel> And It didnt work
[10:53] <sorsis> burepe: look number on chip or you can use your operating system to tell it.
[10:53] <Squee-D> sanjay i suggest you start with atherton
[10:53] <burepe1> I bought it used
[10:53] <gabriel> I loaded the module without any errors
[10:53] <Squee-D> its called madwifi and its in the linux-restricted-modules package
[10:53] <Jowi> gabriel: ah, ok. at least you know that sk98lin is the correct driver and that it is functional. no idea about dapper probs
[10:53] <gabriel> but it didnt work
[10:53] <sanjay> Squee: cool... thanks.. can u give me a link if u have handy?
[10:53] <Myrtti> burepe1: what did you buy then
[10:53] <burepe1> how do i "use operating system to tell it"?
[10:53] <Jowi> gabriel: what does ifconfig tell you about eth0?
[10:54] <Squee-D> sanjay grab the package with apt-get, then modprobe pci_ath
[10:54] <gabriel> You Know propietary drivers never is good
[10:54] <gabriel> it couldnt find any network card
[10:54] <Squee-D> sanjay sorry, ath_pci
[10:55] <inx> guys..do u know where i can download pretty good action 3d/2 games for Linux?
[10:55] <sorsis> burepe: it should allso tell that when you start the computer
[10:55] <mahangu> inx, most good games are sadly not free
[10:55] <xirtus> okay, i dont have any experience with linux, how do i install programs?
[10:55] <mahangu> inx, tried penguinracer?
[10:55] <burepe1> is there a command I can do?
[10:55] <sanjay> Squee: cool.. thanks a mil.. having some problems with my repositories actually, but ill fix that and do this -- will probably be back in a bit to follow-up.. but thanks again Squee.
[10:55] <Jowi> inx: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[10:55] <gabriel> I going to try update from Breezy
[10:55] <mahangu> xirtus, System -> Admin -> Synaptic Package manager
[10:56] <gabriel> Thanks for your time
[10:56] <mahangu> gabriel, to dapper?
[10:56] <VIPER^|^> hello ther e
[10:56] <gabriel> yes
[10:56] <sorsis> burepe1: cpuid or something
[10:56] <Squee-D> sanjay cannot promise its gunna work, but i see two posts that say the madwifi works with it
[10:56] <VIPER^|^> anybody knows wat is the channel of the sks project
[10:56] <mahangu> gabriel, take that talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <mahangu> we can talk more there
[10:56] <burepe1> command not found
[10:57] <sorsis> burepe1: use tab to find similar commands or locate function
[10:57] <sorsis> burepe1: locate cpu
[10:57] <VIPER^|^> anybody knows wat is the channel of the sks project
[10:58] <Squee-D> my machine is turning off all on its own
[10:58] <Squee-D> its terrifying
[10:58] <Jowi> Squee-D: loose cable somewhere?
[10:58] <Squee-D> never did anything like this until i installed ubuntu
[10:59] <Squee-D> jowi nope. and its in a stable position, and it has ups power
[11:00] <Myrtti> run memtest
[11:00] <Jowi> Squee-D: try turning off acpi in grub: kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro pci=noacpi quiet splash
[11:00] <Squee-D> acpi and apm are both off
[11:00] <Squee-D> they were stopping my ethernet card from working
[11:00] <Jowi> Squee-D: that is wierd
[11:00] <Squee-D> ooh wait
[11:01] <Squee-D> i think i might have made a typo on the boot line
[11:01] <Squee-D> is acpi needed for sensors?
[11:01] <Jowi> no idea
[11:01] <Jowi> probably
[11:01] <rambo3> i dont think so
[11:02] <Jowi> acpi monitors my fan and cpu at least
[11:02] <mahangu> i have the cedega 5 debs
[11:02] <mahangu> anyone instaleld them before?
[11:02] <Squee-D> i did make a typo
[11:05] <joedj> how do i allow access to my X server from another (local) user?
[11:05] <fastly> what is the quickest way to install apache2, php5, mysql5 on 5.10?
[11:05] <fastly> sorry, i'm new to ubuntu
[11:06] <rambo3> there is wiki fastly
[11:06] <Seveas> fastly, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server
[11:06] <Seveas> (and that's mysql 4.1 - 5 is not available yet)
[11:06] <Jowi> mahangu: yep, when i still subscribed. worked fine.
[11:06] <fastly> also, is there a default root password because i can't wheel to root...
[11:06] <Squee-D> Seveas.. that names familiar :)
[11:06] <fastly> su -
[11:06] <rambo3> no
[11:07] <fastly> then i type my password and it says auth failure
[11:07] <Seveas> Squee-D, ?
[11:07] <rambo3> its you user password
[11:07] <Jowi> fastly: sudo su
[11:07] <Seveas> !tell fastly about root
[11:07] <Seveas> Jowi, sudo su has some inherent usafeness
[11:07] <Seveas> sudo -i is better
[11:07] <Jowi> Seveas: ah, thanks for letting me know
[11:07] <fastly> cool... that works ;-)
[11:07] <fastly> never used sudo before
[11:08] <Squee-D> Seveas i just added a package url with your name it in
[11:08] <Seveas> ubuntu uses sudo all over the place
[11:08] <Squee-D> in it *
[11:08] <fastly> thanks guys
[11:08] <Seveas> Squee-D, that's not completely unlikely :)
[11:08] <Squee-D> ;)
[11:09] <wildman> hello *
[11:09] <fastly> in gentoo i there are USE flags which allow me to change the compile settings... i.e. include soap extensions in php... how would i go about doing this in ubuntu?
[11:09] <Squee-D> Seveas: for Freenz
[11:09] <Squee-D> freeenx *
[11:09] <aztek> huzzah
[11:09] <Seveas> freenx is cool
[11:09] <fastly> i know not everything is compiled though...
[11:10] <Seveas> there might be an update pretty soon
[11:10] <aztek> it only took 4 hours but i finally have accelerated video through my ATI card
[11:11] <Jowi> fastly: only if you .configure/make the sources
[11:11] <joedj> specifically, i want to be able to do something like   sudo -u mythtv mythtv-setup
[11:11] <Squee-D> im trying to set up my older machine as a media center for the living room.
[11:11] <xubz> "/dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" has someone some news about this issue on vmware/dapper ?
[11:11] <Squee-D> is there a howto on that kind of thing :)
[11:11] <fastly> ok... does apt put make things such as apache start during boot by default?
[11:11] <mahangu> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/ <-- there are files there with the .run extension
[11:12] <mahangu> what are they?
[11:12] <Squee-D> fastly you ascing about /etc/rc#.d maybe?
[11:12] <Squee-D> where you symlink the files from /etc/init.d/
[11:13] <Jowi> fastly: yeah most of the time, but some packages will ask you if you want it added at boot
[11:13] <fastly> maybe... basically the process of making services start automatically
[11:13] <fastly> on gentoo i did: rc-update add samba boot
[11:13] <Squee-D> fastly well thats how i would do it.. but i will guess theres a UI tool too
[11:14] <Squee-D> rc-update did much the same thing
[11:14] <Squee-D> add a symlink in rc#.d to the init.d script for that service
[11:14] <Squee-D> # is the runlevel
[11:14] <Jowi> fastly: that will still work in ubuntu but the command is "update-rc.d"
[11:14] <Squee-D> hah cool :)
[11:15] <Squee-D> i should try to be less helpful as i know nothing about this distro.. yet
[11:15] <Seveas> gnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa stupid fools here at work that cut the power.....
[11:15] <bimberi> fastly: yes (to "does apt put make things such as apache start during boot by default?")
[11:16] <bimberi> :)
[11:16] <Jowi> wb Seveas
[11:16] <Squee-D> Seveas :(
[11:16] <fastly> ok.. cool!!
[11:17] <Squee-D> Is there a howto for getting ubuntu to run SMP? Im grabbing the SMP kernel now.. and im guessing i need to make a grub entry for that kernel?
[11:17] <Jowi> Squee-D: when grabbing the kernel from apt/synaptic it should automaticly add it to grum menu
[11:17] <Jowi> brum=grub
[11:17] <bimberi> Squee-D: it'll set that up automagically, just reboot after the install
[11:18] <Jowi> Dangermouse: damn, i loved that cartoon!
[11:18] <Squee-D> gool
[11:18] <Squee-D> err
[11:18] <Squee-D> cool
[11:18] <Jowi> Dangermouse: sorry for the outburst
[11:18] <Jowi> :)
[11:19] <Dangermouse> heh
[11:20] <Jowi> anyone know why ytalk from xterm -> console work but not console -> xterm?
[11:20] <Squee-D> Jowi on that topic, is there a better way to edit grub? i see a update-grub there..
[11:20] <Squee-D> And Duckula - same makers as dangermouse
[11:21] <Jowi> Squee-D: running custom kernel and other entrys that i don't want messed up so i only do it by hand.
[11:21] <Jowi> Squee-D: man update-grub
[11:21] <henk>  can someone tell me how to get iptables to redirect all connections to localhost:25 to external_ip:25 ? My smtp is listening on one of the external ips and i want local connections to port 25 to be routed there
[11:22] <Squee-D> jowi sorry i should have tried that first
[11:22] <spacey> henk, i think smtp also can listen on localhost ;)
[11:22] <spacey> i think it does normally actually
[11:22] <CaptainMorgan> what are some good emulators besides wine ?
[11:23] <Seveas> henk, iptables -t nat -A prerouting -p tcp --dest 127.0.0.1 --to-port 25 -j DNAT --destination external_ip_here
[11:23] <Seveas> (iirc)
[11:23] <Jowi> CaptainMorgan: mame/xmame, zsnes, VisualBoyAdvance.
[11:24] <Jowi> CaptainMorgan: since you weren't that specific about it :)
[11:24] <Seveas> henk, iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --destination 127.0.0.1 --to-port 25 -j DNAT --to external_ip_here
[11:24] <Seveas> that's better
[11:25] <spacey> oh yeah
[11:25] <spacey> read error
[11:26] <spacey> although i think its better to configure postfix as a sattelite system
[11:26] <henk> spacey, I can configure my smtp to either listen on all interfaces or on only one. I want it to listen to 127.0.0.1 and just one of the external ip's so i need that portforward.
[11:26] <henk> Seveas, hmm --to-port is not valid it seems..
[11:26] <fastly> using the "add applications" gui i selected realplayer and in the configure realplayer windows it is asking for the location where it was downloaded and currently says "/root", which is apparently incorrect
[11:27] <fastly> anyone here know it would have been downloaded by default?
[11:28] <henk> Seveas, if i use --dport and try to connect it says connection refused. so it seems not working ...
[11:29] <fastly> where are install files downloaded to by default please?
[11:29] <fastly> i.e. on gentoo it is /usr/portage/distfiles ...
[11:30] <henk> Seveas, i think the problem is that it may not even go through the prerouting chain?
[11:30] <Seveas> fastly, /var/cache/apt
[11:30] <fastly> thanks Seveas
[11:31] <fastly> hmm... doesn't appear to be there...
[11:31] <Seveas> henk, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:31] <Seveas> fastly, /var/cache/apt/archives/ actually
[11:33] <henk> Seveas, already did tat
[11:36] <Squee-D> guys software update is unable to get a lock. Thinks another apt app is open.. This im sure is because my machine keeps freaking shutting off
[11:36] <talavera> hiii
[11:36] <Squee-D> Where is the lock stored? Cannot see it in /var/lock/
[11:36] <k31th_> yo
[11:36] <k31th_> morning guys
[11:37] <talavera> hello
[11:37] <talavera> good morning
[11:37] <broar94> hello . I want a RASPPoe dialer for ubuntu , where can I find it ?
[11:38] <thegladiator> broar94, what are u looking for ?
[11:38] <broar94> RASPPOE*
[11:38] <broar94> haha!!
[11:38] <broar94> my god lol !
[11:38] <thegladiator> can someone help him out ?
[11:38] <thegladiator> hehe
[11:38] <broar94> I need some help guys :)
[11:38] <paulfox> hi all. i've got an ubuntu box with 1 serial port. what hardware do i need so i can connect more than one serial device to it?
[11:38] <broar94> that was fast as well , mister :D
[11:39] <thegladiator> heh e
[11:39] <thegladiator> diesel, are u there ?
[11:39] <Squee-D> paul its possible you have a header for a second serial port inside
[11:39] <broar94> i didnt know this channel was the official ubuntu support channel
[11:39] <Squee-D> if not, you need an extension card
[11:39] <thegladiator> my friend wants to set up his internet connection in ubuntu
[11:39] <ktogias> paulfox, a pci to serial ports card?
[11:39] <k31th> How do i isntall MySQL headers ?? im installing trhis package and its hanging on PHP5
[11:40] <thegladiator> this is one of the ubuntu channels
[11:40] <Squee-D> or a usb serial device
[11:40] <broar94> RASPPPoe , anyone ?
[11:40] <talavera> do u know how to download some ubuntu programs
[11:41] <talavera> tell me s web please
[11:41] <paulfox> ktogias, thinking something external
[11:41] <thegladiator> talavera, some ubuntu programs?
[11:41] <Ng> paulfox: you can get USB serial ports
[11:41] <paulfox> Ng, but will they work with linux, out of the box?
[11:41] <talavera> yes, as messenger
[11:41] <Jowi> broar94: "sudo pppoeconf" should do, no?
[11:41] <broar94> I want a client software like this one www.raspppoe.com
[11:41] <talavera> yes for linux
[11:41] <thegladiator> http://www.raspppoe.com
[11:42] <broar94> i have tried before Jowi it didnt work
[11:42] <thegladiator> is the site
[11:42] <talavera> thanks i'll try
[11:42] <thegladiator> talavera, there is gaim inbuilt for that
[11:42] <paulfox> Ng, ktogias, i was thinking something like an expansion, plugging into the serial port, with 4 ports on the end of it?
[11:42] <thegladiator> talavera, ttha was not for you sorry
[11:42] <broar94> it says unsupported command or something like that when i tried it in terminal
[11:42] <thegladiator> talavera, ubuntu has inbuilt
[11:42] <DelPede> when a some users tries to login to gnome, on 5.10, Gnome-panel crashes, and says that a panel is allready running. .xsession-errors says, that the user does not exist. They are all NIS users, and ypcat passwd tells me the indeed do exist. The same users can login on 5.04 machines though
[11:42] <Squee-D> paulfox nice idea, unlikely :P
[11:42] <thegladiator> broar94, did u try that as root ?
[11:42] <ktogias> paulfox, I do not know if such a device exists....
[11:42] <paulfox> squdamn
[11:43] <Squee-D> paulfox while entirely doable, it would need software support.
[11:43] <thegladiator> broar94, it must have sudo prefixed to it
[11:43] <Jowi> broar94: it should. RASPPPOE: This is a PPP over Ethernet (short: PPPoE) implementation for Windows 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT 4.0, 2000, XP, .NET. PPPoE as a method for establishing PPP connections through Ethernet adapters is described in RFC 2516 and is used by many broadband service providers to allow authentication and maintain the familiar "dial-up experience" when connecting to the Internet through a broadband modem.
[11:43] <broar94> so Jowi , i want a linux supported dialer for that
[11:43] <Ng> paulfox: not gonna happen ;)
[11:43] <thegladiator> thats what ...broar...
[11:44] <paulfox> i basically need to connect 3 or four barcode scanners to the box. im worried that it wont work out of the box if i get usb
[11:44] <broar94> it didnt it told me unsupported command
[11:44] <thegladiator> try sudo pppoeconf
[11:44] <Squee-D> paulfox a multiplexer for a rs232 serial port would be considerably LESS likely to work
[11:44] <broar94> yes i have tried sudo pppoeconf
[11:45] <Squee-D> (out of the box)
[11:45] <Jowi> broar94: if pppoeconf is not found, then install it from the cd with "sudo apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf"
[11:45] <Ng> paulfox: a pci serial card is probably the best solution, usb serial ports have a nasty habit of changing order
[11:45] <Ng> you can work around that with udev, most of the time
[11:45] <thegladiator> Jowi, he doesnt have net connection as such
[11:45] <Jowi> thegladiator: from the cd. not net
[11:46] <paulfox> Ng, i see
[11:46] <broar94> wow great idea Jowi . I have live cd . so do i insert install cd for this ?
[11:46] <Squee-D> yeah a pci card will be the most solid solution
[11:46] <Cryptid> is there a  Linux version of americas Army?????
[11:46] <paulfox> hmm, i'll have to think about this one.
[11:46] <Hentai^XP> Cryptid: yes
[11:46] <broar94> yes there is crypt
[11:46] <Jowi> broar94: no idea about the live-cd. only know it is included in the install cd
[11:46] <Cryptid> Hentai^XP,
[11:46] <Hentai^XP> ?
[11:46] <Cryptid> Hentai^XP, where do i get it from
[11:46] <Hentai^XP> check thier site
[11:47] <Cryptid> i am planning to buy a PCI e XFX 6600 graphic card does it have any issues with Ubuntu?????
[11:47] <Hentai^XP> Cryptid: www.3dgamers.com will also have it
[11:48] <mahangu> how can i add something to my path?
[11:48] <xirtus> yeah there is americas army for linux
[11:48] <xirtus> whats a good dvdshrink alternative -i d
[11:48] <paulfox> Ng, you think this is what i'm after? http://www.perle.com/products/product.asp?pid=04001870&cat=C004
[11:49] <xirtus> so... -anyone know of a good dvdshrink alternative?
[11:50] <Cryptid> Hentai^XP, what are minimum requirments for AA ???
[11:50] <ejofee> what made ubuntu so popular?
[11:50] <xirtus> free disks in the mail i'd say
[11:50] <Squee-D> holy crap. Freenx is very very nice
[11:50] <Ng> paulfox: yeah, that looks about right, anything based on a standard UART should work fine
[11:50] <Ng> ejofee: it rocks!
[11:50] <ejofee> its evolution is very strange, it reached the top almost from the very beginning. why?!
[11:50] <Hentai^XP> Cryptid: no idea sorry
[11:51] <ejofee> Ng: it rocks why?
[11:51] <Cryptid> ok thanx
[11:51] <paulfox> Ng, excellent. thanks for the i/o ;)
[11:51] <Jowi> ejofee: for me it was that it didn't frustrate me as much as other distros.
[11:51] <Hentai^XP> Cryptid: I know it can run on atleast a 1GHZ AMD athlon, 512MB ram, and a FX 5600xt
[11:51] <Ng> ejofee: I'd say it's because it's Debian, but useful for a desktop
[11:51] <ejofee> Jowi: right... for me too. which were some of your frustrations?
[11:52] <mahangu> my hda1 NTFS drive wont mount anymore
[11:52] <mahangu> wierd
[11:52] <ejofee> Ng: right. this is, indeed, what attracts me MOST. and this is why i am upset there's no binary compatibility between the two (plus i don't understand why)
[11:52] <Jowi> ejofee: rpm dependencies and wierd config file placements and flakey hardware drivers
[11:53] <thegladiator> Jowi, does live cd have ppp configuration facilities ?
[11:53] <Jowi> thegladiator: i do not know
[11:53] <talavera> where can i download a messenger for ubuntu??
[11:53] <ejofee> Jowi: you could use mandriva's urpmi which does just what apt-get does
[11:53] <mahangu> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o rw,users
[11:53] <mahangu> that didn't work for me
[11:53] <mahangu> any ideas?
[11:53] <ejofee> talavera: d4x, it's in the universe
[11:53] <Jowi> ejofee: i did but it didn't "do it" for me :)
[11:53] <xirtus> so dvdsrhink. nothin? really? linux is that lame? see five years back, i had a choice, convert to osx or convert to linux, i chose apple because its fascist nature seems more practical than a socialist operating system,,, -i was kinda' hoping i was wrong...
[11:53] <ejofee> Jowi: what was it missing?
[11:54] <talavera> what is universe ejofee
[11:54] <ejofee> talavera: d4x is absolutely cool
[11:54] <Jowi> ejofee: dependencies most of the time, even though it is supposed to solve them
[11:54] <ejofee> talavera: can you "sudo apt-get install d4x"?
[11:55] <talavera> in a terminal?
[11:55] <ejofee> Jowi: i see
[11:55] <Jowi> ejofee: apt-cache search --names-only d4x
[11:55] <ejofee> talavera: sure
[11:55] <ejofee> talavera: better do as Jowi says: "sudo apt-cache search --names-only d4x" in a terminal
[11:55] <ejofee> talavera: no quotation marks, obviously! :)
[11:56] <dries> a little question: can anyone tell me how to get java 1.5 up and running on ubuntu breezy ?
[11:56] <ejofee> dries: a little answer: yes, of course.
[11:56] <dries> I mean, changing the sources.list and using apt
[11:56] <Jowi> talavera: apt-cache search is very useful
[11:56] <ejofee> dries: (that is, most of us can)
[11:56] <ejofee> dries :D
[11:56] <dries> so, tell me :-)
[11:56] <fooooobar> where do i find a new zealand mirror for ubuntu repositories. it's really slooow from here.
[11:57] <Squee-D> ejofee, i think he wants one of us to actually do it
[11:57] <ejofee> dries: ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:57] <Squee-D> foooooobar funny i think mine defaulted to nz
[11:57] <ejofee> Squee-D: well... :P
[11:57] <Jowi> dries: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:57] <fooooobar> Squee-D, hehe can you past what you're using now?
[11:57] <Ng> ejofee: binary compatibility is not necessarily a good thing
[11:57] <fooooobar> s/spast/paste
[11:57] <dries> ok, I'll take a look
[11:57] <ejofee> Jowi: i guess in debian/ubuntu apt-get is always the best answer :)
[11:57] <dries> thx ejofee
[11:58] <ejofee> Ng: why not?
[11:58] <ejofee> dries: anytime
[11:58] <fooooobar> Squee-D, can you paste a rep URL?
[11:58] <Squee-D> fooooobar i may be able to iff freenx supports copy and paste
[11:58] <fooooobar> Squee-D, try... thx
[11:58] <mahangu> anybody know how I can mount my ntfs drive?
[11:58] <thegladiator> mahangu, hey
[11:59] <thegladiator> mahangu, did u specify the filesystem ?
[11:59] <thegladiator> while mounting ?
[11:59] <Jowi> ejofee: ...until we find something better haha
[11:59] <Squee-D> nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is what i got, which i see does not point here
[11:59] <ejofee> Ng: i don't mean to bring it to the extreme, but i would say "binary compatibility as much as possible" would be a very good approach. am i wrong (and if so, why)?
[11:59] <mahangu> thegladiator, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o rw,users mahangu@arwen:~$
[11:59] <fooooobar> Squee-D, thanks a ton
[11:59] <mahangu> sorry
[11:59] <Squee-D> however i was getting 70kps
[11:59] <mahangu> take off everything after users
[11:59] <mahangu> :)
[11:59] <ejofee> Jowi :)
[11:59] <mahangu> bad copy
[12:00] <Ng> ejofee: it would mean the two were forced to stay effectively the same
[12:00] <Jowi> mahangu: rw? anyone know if the ntfs driver support full write support now?
[12:00] <Ng> ejofee: which would limit ubuntu to working at the pace debian works, which is bloody slow ;)
[12:00] <talavera> ejofee: it said that the command "sudo apt" is not correct
[12:00] <mahangu> Jowi, sorry that was habit, ill take it out and try
[12:00] <thegladiator> mahangu, whats the error u get ?
[12:00] <ejofee> Ng: really? would it limit ubuntu that way?
[12:01] <mahangu> thegladiator, bash: cd: /media/hda1: Permission denied
[12:01] <talavera> yes
[12:01] <mahangu> nautilus tells me i dont have the correct permissions
[12:01] <mahangu> it mounts fine, i just cant access it
[12:01] <Ng> ejofee: yes, they would have to match debian's libc and gcc versions at least, then if you wanted compatibility for gnome type apps you'd need to match their gnome version, etc.
[12:01] <talavera> what is "sudo"
[12:01] <thegladiator> sudo = change to root
[12:02] <thegladiator> switch user
[12:02] <ejofee> talavera: it gives you access to tasks otherwise performable only as root
[12:02] <ejofee> talavera: do you have the root account enabled?
[12:02] <Jowi> talavera: sudo is a security measure. lets a user run as superuser
[12:02] <thegladiator> mahangu, i guess then Jowi was correct
[12:02] <ejofee> talavera: are you a newbye to gnu/linux?
[12:02] <thegladiator> perhaps it could be only read only ?
[12:02] <Squee-D> fooooobar now im getting 170kBps - cant complain about that
[12:02] <talavera> ejofee: no, i think that is not enable
[12:02] <Jowi> talavera: root is disabled as default. read more here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:03] <talavera> thanks
[12:03] <mahangu> thegladiator, Jowi, i mounted - sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o users,ro
[12:03] <ejofee> Ng: i see, now it's all clear... then it's a good thing to recompile them all. however, can i be sure that the two distros will maintain source compatibility?
[12:03] <mahangu> still wont work
[12:03] <ejofee> talavera: then you *have* to use sudo
[12:03] <ejofee> talavera: are you sure you wrote "sudo apt-get install d4x"?
[12:04] <linx> wat is a good multiple dns update client with a gui interface?
[12:04] <ejofee> talavera: are you sure you used the dash and no space?
[12:04] <talavera> ejofee: YES
[12:04] <Ng> ejofee: I wouldn't guarantee it, but it's much harder to be source incompatible and at least the packaging used by both is the same, so rebuilding or patching them is very easy
[12:04] <cyphase> How long before we can put "Don't Panic!" on the front page of Wikipedia?
[12:04] <thegladiator> permission denied error still ?
[12:04] <fooooobar> Squee-D, slow from here.. sheeet
[12:04] <Squee-D> fooooobar its your route then
[12:04] <ejofee> talavera: then, for some weird reasons, you seem not to have apt-get installed. are you using... ubuntu?!
[12:04] <Squee-D> fooooobar: which carrier and whereabouts?
[12:05] <fooooobar> Squee-D, i think so.... we're out in the country here
[12:05] <mahangu> thegladiator, yes
[12:05] <Jowi> mahangu: sorry, was not paying attention. should be "user" not "users"
[12:05] <fooooobar> Squee-D, clear.net.nz... what are you on?
[12:05] <Squee-D> heh rural NZ eh? so you got a horse running the packets back n forth?
[12:05] <thegladiator> mahangu, try without any options ?
[12:05] <Squee-D> orcon, in devenport/auckland
[12:05] <mahangu> thegladiator,  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o user,ro
[12:05] <mahangu> same problem
[12:05] <mahangu> Jowi, sorry that was for you
[12:05] <thegladiator> like sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[12:06] <pparker> hi, i want to download but torrent tracker is down
[12:06] <Jowi> mahangu: got it :)
[12:06] <fooooobar> Squee-D, we produce TCP/IP packets with sticks, glued together with horse saliva. and you?
[12:06] <talavera> ejofee: yes i'm using ubuntu, is the only thing that i'm sure
[12:06] <mahangu> wierd
[12:06] <mahangu> i can get in as root
[12:06] <mahangu> sudo -s
[12:06] <mahangu> and then it works fine
[12:06] <Squee-D> fooooobar im in upmarket auckland mate, we give the sticks a condescending stare if they dare part!
[12:06] <pparker> anyones got an url for DapperFlight2 ?
[12:06] <Squee-D> no need for glue
[12:06] <thegladiator> yeah sometimes it does
[12:07] <ejofee> talavera :))
[12:07] <Jowi> mahangu: try to add umask=000
[12:07] <thegladiator> mahangu, it cud be because of issue with oath variables
[12:07] <linx> wat is a good multiple dns update client with a gui interface?
[12:07] <thegladiator> mahange edit ur fstav
[12:07] <thegladiator> fstab and add as jowi said
[12:07] <ejofee> talavera: did you install it?
[12:07] <Squee-D> linx its rare you need to repeat yourself that close together
[12:07] <ejofee> talavera: it MATTERS which user you are currently logged in as
[12:07] <fooooobar> Squee-D, may the goats smile on you
[12:07] <talavera> ejofee: "E: Couldn't find package d4x"
[12:08] <thegladiator> mahangu, something like /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    umask=0000        0       0
[12:08] <ejofee> talavera: oh, now it's much better
[12:08] <ejofee> ok
[12:08] <ejofee> talavera: here's what you do
[12:08] <Squee-D> fooooobar may the sheep be gentle :P
[12:08] <mahangu> YES
[12:08] <mahangu> UMASK
[12:08] <ejofee> talavera: sudo synaptic
[12:08] <mahangu> woo
[12:08] <Jowi> thegladiator, mahangu: only 3 zeros in umask btw
[12:08] <thegladiator> and try booting , see if its available to all users
[12:08] <mahangu> thanks Jowi thegladiator
[12:08] <thegladiator> oh sorry
[12:08] <Squee-D> did you all know that we found a new use for sheep in new zealand?
[12:08] <mahangu> i put 4 worked fine :)
[12:08] <Jowi> np mahangu
[12:09] <ejofee> talavera: hope it works from the first attempt :)
[12:09] <Squee-D> wool.
[12:09] <fooooobar> Squee-D, it is too late. their horns we have beared the brunt of
[12:09] <thegladiator> i use 4 zeroes actually
[12:09] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:09] <thegladiator> but have seen 3 used many places mostly
[12:09] <ejofee> talavera: is synaptic on?
[12:09] <Jowi> thegladiator: wierd. didn't do it for me with 4 zeros. haha
[12:09] <talavera> ejofee: i have synaptic package manager
[12:09] <pparker> why trackers are down ?
[12:09] <thegladiator> :D lucky me
[12:10] <talavera> ejofee: yes, correct
[12:10] <ejofee> talavera: settings/repositories
[12:10] <ejofee> talavera: and check every box in front of each url
[12:11] <Jowi> talavera: see here for how to add repositories (with screenshots) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:11] <ejofee> talavera: tha way you will have access to many more software, which will be downloaded automatically from the web. (boy, ain't that COOL?!)
[12:12] <kovajag> nu ko
[12:12] <talavera> ejofee: ok
[12:12] <ejofee> talavera: now close this repositories window and then press the "reload" button
[12:12] <kovajag> ledus
[12:12] <Jemt> Greetings. I think my fstab have changed since I turned off my laptop last night. A 'errors=remount-ro' line has been added to <options> for my root partition - and the CD-ROM drive has been added to the fstab file too. Is this normal? And does my fstab look right to your guys: http://powerzone.dk/fstab  ?
[12:12] <Jemt> has*
[12:13] <ejofee> talavera: that's all: now you have access to pretty much everything you might ever need. all you have to do is to search throught the list on the right...
[12:13] <ejofee> talavera: you can quick search by typing the name
[12:13] <ejofee> talavera: ... and it downloads everything automatically... no need for you to try to find it on the web anymore
[12:14] <ejofee> talavera: when you find your pack, all you have to do is to right-click on it and choose whatever you want to do with it
[12:14] <Seveas> Jemt, the installer adds these things, so it would be weird if it weren't there before
[12:14] <ejofee> talavera: say yes if it asks you if it is ok to also install some "dependencies"
[12:14] <ejofee> talavera: ok?
[12:14] <ejofee> talavera: you'll surely love it!
[12:14] <Jemt> Seveas: Hm, I might be wrong. I was pretty tired last night :)
[12:15] <Squee-D> ooooh my smp kernel appears to be working.. bring on the multiprocessing!
[12:15] <Seveas> Jemt, hehe
[12:15] <ejofee> talavera: still there? does it work?
[12:15] <rob1> yay wireless networking is so fun to set up.. not
[12:16] <Squee-D> Seveas freenx is the bomb
[12:16] <Seveas> Squee-D, I know :)
[12:16] <salva> hi!
[12:16] <Squee-D> i fired it up when i finally worked out why machine kept booting
[12:16] <Jemt> Seveas: But how does my fstab look? Is it alright? I'm using hda4 for both Windows and Linux (thats why I have added umask and iocharset as we talked about last night). I'm also using my USB key for both Linux and Windows - but that is not listed in fstab which I find strange
[12:16] <salva> i ve a problem
[12:16] <Jowi> rob1: pure joy in any system :)
[12:16] <salva> someone can help me ??
[12:16] <Seveas> wireless is cool :)
[12:16] <Seveas> !tell salva about someone
[12:16] <ejofee> salva: i have no idea which problem that is
[12:16] <ejofee> salva: so... just ask
[12:16] <Blue-Steel> what password does ubuntu uses for root ? i mean .. during install it didnt even asked me  for a root pass
[12:16] <Jemt> salva: Ask your question
[12:16] <rob1> Jowi, oh, I've got a netgear wireless router that wants to do its own thing
[12:16] <Seveas> !tell Blue-Steel about root
[12:16] <Jowi> Seveas: uboto is dead
[12:16] <salva> i ve kubuntu
[12:17] <Seveas> !+test
[12:17] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[12:17] <tRSS> Hey Guys/Gals. I am trying install real player 10 on my breezy. I have downloaded a .bin file from real's website, but I am not sure how to convert it into a debian package
[12:17] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: It's the same password as yours
[12:17] <rob1> losts of fun
[12:17] <salva> and i want to use ivman
[12:17] <Seveas> no it's not :)
[12:17] <rob1> umm
[12:17] <salva> but it doesnt work
[12:17] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: Use the password you specified for your user account
[12:17] <ejofee> salva: well, having kubuntu is not really a problem
[12:17] <talavera> ejofee: i don't really know what i have to do in synaptic
[12:17] <salva> i plug a usb pen
[12:17] <Seveas> ejofee, that's a tough discussion point :)
[12:17] <Squee-D> hahah
[12:17] <ejofee> Seveas :D
[12:17] <Jowi> rob1: "its own thing"? haha, cool
[12:18] <Blue-Steel> Jemt  not working . i can login with my user . but not with root :S
[12:18] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: Oh, you are trying to 'su'
[12:18] <ejofee> talavera: did you press the "reload" button?
[12:18] <Blue-Steel> yes su
[12:18] <tRSS> Blue-Steel: U need to enable root login
[12:18] <irvin> Blue-Steel, root login is disabled
[12:18] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: Use 'sudo <command-to-execute>'
[12:18] <Blue-Steel> ok and where ?
[12:18] <Seveas> Blue-Steel, sudo -i
[12:18] <Seveas> that gives you a root shell
[12:18] <talavera> ejofee: now yes
[12:18] <Seveas> enabling rout is not advised
[12:18] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: If you want to enable the root account type : sudo su <enter> - then change your password with 'passwd'
[12:18] <ejofee> talavera: has it finished doing... sfuff?
[12:19] <Blue-Steel> ewww... sudo ..
[12:19] <talavera> yes
[12:19] <Jowi> talavera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:19] <Blue-Steel>  im sorry guys  i like debian but not having root ...
[12:19] <Blue-Steel> :S
[12:19] <ejofee> talavera: do you now see a list beginning with "3dchess", "3ddesktop" etc.?
[12:19] <Seveas> Blue-Steel, sudo passwd root
[12:19] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: You might prefer Seveas way of duing it. That dosn't enable the root account which is probably more secure
[12:19] <tRSS> Blue-Steel: try this: Security Tab -> Options -> Allow root to login with GDM (Checked)
[12:19] <cyphase> Linux for flexibility, Mac for ease of use, and Windows for what not to do
[12:19] <Seveas> with that you enable the root password
[12:19] <cyphase> lol
[12:19] <tRSS> Blue-steel: sudo is more secure
[12:20] <Blue-Steel> Jemt  well not really .
[12:20] <tRSS> how to convert a .bin file to a debian package?
[12:20] <Squee-D> who has a p4 3.? ghz? I'd like to know what linux says the bogomips are :)
[12:20] <Seveas> tRSS, magic smoke
[12:20] <Jemt> Blue-Steel: Ok :)
[12:20] <Blue-Steel> its secure is well configured
[12:20] <ejofee> talavera: click somewhere in the list and them write the name of the software you need (for instance, type "d4...") and it should find "d4x" (the downloader)
[12:20] <tRSS> Seveas: ?
[12:20] <Blue-Steel> but not more. but i understand the thing
[12:20] <talavera> ejofee: with acpi
[12:20] <ejofee> talavera: however, you won't need d4x for installing software, you can use... synaptic
[12:20] <tenshiKur> hey all, wondering if anyone has any definitive setup info for a linksys wpc54g wifi card, on a dell latitude laptop, i've read, done all the basics, plus advanced stuff, but no go
[12:20] <ejofee> talavera: oh, ok
[12:21] <Blue-Steel> tRSS  i instaled as server
[12:21] <ejofee> talavera: how many thousands of packages does it say it has? (on the status bar)
[12:21] <tenshiKur> i'm using an airport extreme and airport express, wondering if that might be the prob
[12:21] <talavera> ejofee: no it doesn't find d4x
[12:21] <ejofee> talavera: how many packages?
[12:22] <Squee-D> tenshiKur0 you tried the madwifi module then?
[12:22] <Ng> talavera: if you can't see d4x you probably need to enable the universe repository
[12:22] <Blue-Steel> so .. how many users can run sudo ? only 1 or all after the install if they are added ?
[12:22] <seifu> Squee-D: (ok, no not all... then), no haven't tried that one
[12:23] <tRSS> Blue-Steel: why do you need root access? elaborate a little more
[12:23] <Ng> Blue-Steel: only those in the "admin" group
[12:23] <Jowi> Blue-Steel: all users that is listed in /etc/sudoers
[12:23] <ejofee> Ng: this is just what i told talavera...
[12:23] <Blue-Steel> tRSS  i instaled as server . no gui there :)
[12:23] <seifu> did some reading on it, but was basically just using wpa_supplicant and the win drivers that are available for my card...
[12:23] <Jowi> Blue-Steel: and that is in "admin" group as Ng said
[12:23] <fojtr1am> hi
[12:23] <ndlovu> hi all. any idea how I might browse windows machines from the terminal? I want to find out if one computer specifically is broadcasting its name with netbios.
[12:23] <talavera> ejofee: i don't know where can i see the number of packages
[12:23] <Blue-Steel> i ve used debian months ago . i just want to check ubuntu
[12:24] <seifu> checking out madwifi/now/again
[12:24] <Jemt> BRB
[12:24] <ndlovu> should ping work?
[12:24] <seifu> thanks, will try that and see...
[12:24] <jdub> ndlovu: check out smbclient
[12:24] <Seveas> seifu, hint: use the madwifi drivers from my repo
[12:24] <Squee-D> seifu grab linux-restricted-modules and then modprobe ath_pci
[12:24] <Seveas> they actually work with wpa_supplicant
[12:24] <ejofee> "<ejofee> talavera: how many thousands of packages does it say it has? (on the status bar)"
[12:24] <fojtr1am> Hi, is there any way, how to change debian to ubuntu?
[12:24] <ejofee> talavera: do you know what a status bar is?
[12:24] <ndlovu> jdub: in what way?
[12:24] <seifu> k... will do, thanks, again
[12:24] <Seveas> the restricted-modules madwifi drivers are ick
[12:24] <fojtr1am> some sources change or something?
[12:24] <jdub> ndlovu: as in, have a look at it, it will help you do what you want to do
[12:24] <talavera> ejofee: no
[12:24] <Squee-D> Seveas they work tho
[12:25] <jdub> fojtr1am: yeah, but not recommended
[12:25] <senectus> Does anyone know how to reconfigure EDS ? mine keeps locking up my gnome sessions because I swapped sound cards out
[12:25] <Seveas> Squee-D, not for me
[12:25] <Squee-D> although it all fell apart when i updated to 686-smp on me
[12:25] <irvin> would it be better to edit the admin entry of /etc/group?
[12:25] <fojtr1am> Isn't it safe?
[12:25] <ejofee> talavera: the status bar is the bottom of a window.
[12:25] <Squee-D> now they just dissapeared
[12:25] <ndlovu> jdub: right. see what you mean :)
[12:25] <jdub> fojtr1am: it's just not guaranteed to work very well
[12:25] <Squee-D> sev what do you use?
[12:25] <ejofee> talavera: it should say how many packages
[12:25] <Seveas> wpasupplicant + madwifi + restricted modules + 802.1x == no go
[12:25] <talavera> ejofee: ok, sorry
[12:25] <ejofee> are available
[12:25] <ejofee> talavera: np
[12:25] <talavera> ejofee: 1488 packages
[12:25] <ejofee> talavera: we all learn.
[12:25] <Squee-D> i just used madwifi (which is in restricted modules)
[12:25] <Squee-D> oh right wpa
[12:26] <ejofee> talavera: did you check everything i told you?
[12:26] <Blue-Steel> whats the difference from lpadmin and admin
[12:26] <seifu> brb
[12:26] <Squee-D> i am doing the unfortunate and using wep and mac filtering
[12:26] <jdub> Blue-Steel: lp means printer
[12:26] <Blue-Steel> ok :)
[12:26] <talavera> ejofee: 1033 installed
[12:26] <senectus> Does anyone know how to reconfigure EDS ? mine keeps locking up my gnome sessions because I swapped sound cards out
[12:26] <jdub> Blue-Steel: just special permission groups
[12:26] <ejofee> talavera: on the left, did you click on "all"?
[12:26] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:27] <talavera> ejofee: yes i have 1488 packages listed
[12:27] <ejofee> talavera: then maybe you didn't do what i told you
[12:27] <ejofee> talavera: in the menu, go to settings/repositories
[12:27] <ejofee> talavera: is everything checked in there?
[12:27] <ejofee> talavera: (you may need to scroll down!)
[12:28] <talavera> ejofee: what u mean with checked
[12:28] <ejofee> talavera: you are not an english-as-a-first-language speaker, are you?
[12:28] <talavera> ejofee: i have a window called "software preferences"
[12:28] <odat> i have a machine with ubuntu that won't boot anymore since the xserver won't start i tried to reconfigure it but it doesn't do anything i still get the same answer     any suggestions?
[12:29] <talavera> ejofee: no i'm spanish
[12:29] <Blue-Steel> i need a tip reminding me here do set the mirrors to update the distro
[12:29] <ejofee> talavera: click on the tiny square in front of each url (web address), so that you may get a tiny black sign in it.
[12:29] <Blue-Steel> i need to conf apt-get
[12:29] <Jowi> odat: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if the svga driver work for you.
[12:30] <odat> Jowi, any idea why it would just stop working like that?
[12:30] <senectus> Does anyone know how to reconfigure ESD ? mine keeps locking up my gnome sessions because I swapped sound cards out
[12:30] <ejofee> talavera: do this in setting / repositories! (not in settings / preferences!)
[12:30] <Jowi> odat: impossible to know. check exactly which error you got
[12:30] <odat> k
[12:30] <ejofee> talavera: have you enabled everything in settings / repositories
[12:31] <ejofee> talavera: ?
[12:31] <talavera> ejofee: no, is repositories, but i only have cd ubuntu 5.10
[12:31] <jono> hi all
[12:31] <jono> we record the LUGRadio chrismas show tonight, so go and leave a short happy chrismas message saying who you are by calling 0870 931 1730 (+44 870 931 1730 for international callers) - remember to keep it short as we want to stick quite a few on :)
[12:31] <talavera> ejofee: i don't know exactly what i have to do
[12:31] <ejofee> talavera: nothing else that you could enable?
[12:31] <talavera> ejofee: no more
[12:32] <Ng> jono: cool :)
[12:32] <ejofee> talavera: wait then
[12:32] <fastly> my laptop has an ati radeon and i am working off a default install... the screen resolution and 2D graphics are fine, but i don't know if the official drivers are installed... any ideas how i can check if they are installed and if not how to install them please?
[12:32] <jono> Ng, :)
[12:32] <ejofee> talavera: i will help you
[12:32] <talavera> ejofee: it let me: add, remove and edit
[12:32] <ejofee> talavera: leave that window. you don't need it anymore.
[12:32] <Jowi> !ati
[12:32] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:32] <ejofee> talavera: in fact, just close synaptic.
[12:32] <talavera> ejofee: ok
[12:32] <Jowi> fastly: check the ubotu link
[12:32] <talavera> ejofee: ok
[12:33] <Squee-D> !nvidia
[12:33] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:34] <ejofee> now, in a console, run: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:34] <ejofee> talavera: NO, I CORRECT IT: run: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:34] <ubu_on_epia> hi all
[12:35] <Mabus06> ubotu, hi
[12:35] <ubotu> hey
[12:35] <ejofee> talavera: did you run the correct one?
[12:35] <Mabus06> oh you're back, sweet
[12:35] <Squee-D> nano is sexier :P
[12:35] <tRSS> how can I install a debian package? what is the command? dpkg -i ?
[12:35] <ejofee> Squee-D: sexier than what?
[12:35] <irvin> tRSS, yes
[12:35] <Squee-D> gedit
[12:35] <ejofee> Squee-D: maybe... :)
[12:36] <Squee-D> i am being silly of course, just an amazing comfort level i've built up with nano over the years
[12:36] <tRSS> irvin: but it won't install the real player package, which I just alien'ated
[12:36] <tRSS> irvin: actually it does, but I dont see real player
[12:36] <talavera> ejofee: perfect
[12:36] <ejofee> talavera: now you see a text file
[12:36] <ejofee> talavera: don't change anything in it for now!
[12:36] <ejofee> talavera: ok?
[12:37] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:37] <irvin> tRSS, from what package did you convert it from?
[12:37] <tRSS> an rpm package I downloaded from the real site
[12:37] <ejofee> talavera: wait...
[12:38] <ubu_on_epia> Anybody with experience on running breezy on a Via Epia-Board in here?
[12:39] <ejofee> talavera: now you *have* to close synaptic
[12:39] <ubu_on_epia> !epia
[12:39] <ubotu> ubu_on_epia: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:39] <ejofee> talavera: have you already closed it?
[12:39] <Squee-D> haha
[12:39] <Squee-D> they could, nice small boards
[12:39] <tRSS> irvin: i converted it from an rpm package by: sudo alien package_name.rpm
[12:39] <ubu_on_epia> !via dri
[12:39] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ubu_on_epia
[12:40] <fastly> what is the best wifi connection software for gnome?
[12:40] <ejofee> talavera: hello?
[12:40] <Jowi> tRSS: why not download the installer from real?
[12:40] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: you're in luck my friend!
[12:40] <irvin> tRSS, i never used real player before... have you checked out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?
[12:40] <tRSS> Jowi: i will try that.. thanks for the advice
[12:41] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: i just finished a wiki on that topic
[12:41] <ubu_on_epia> Squee-D, Yes, neat little thingy.... unfortunately I just went through the Epia-Howto from the wiki but can't get the video working with the 'via'-xmodule :-(
[12:41] <Jowi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViaEpiaDriHowto
[12:41] <irvin> tRSS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b
[12:41] <ubu_on_epia> ^^^^ That's the prob ^^^
[12:41] <ubu_on_epia> Doesn't work as promised for me
[12:42] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: so where did you fail?
[12:42] <Squee-D> heheheh nice one Jowi..
[12:43] <ubu_on_epia> Just did the Kernel recompile, but if I try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to the via modules, X crashes... (running the vesa now, works fine sofar)
[12:43] <talavera> ejofee: hi
[12:43] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: maybe you need to install the restricted-modules...
[12:44] <Mabus06> Can someone give me some help with samba? When I go to networking, it prompts for login info. I fill it in, and it asks for it again. Repeat.
[12:44] <ejofee> talavera: what happened?
[12:44] <Mabus06> Computer is on, everything has the right uppercase/lowecae and all that n00b junk...
[12:44] <ubu_on_epia> naaah... there's dedicated via xmodules in brrezy (not restricted) but i just can't get them to work
[12:45] <talavera> ejofee: i'm to do with the web
[12:45] <ejofee> talavera: have you closed synaptic?
[12:45] <ejofee> talavera: you have problems with your net connection?
[12:45] <talavera> ejofee: no
[12:45] <ejofee> talavera: close it now
[12:45] <talavera> ejofee: i think i had
[12:45] <ejofee> talavera: i am sorry, you have to close it ;)
[12:45] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: i use the normal via driver provided by default in xorg. can you post your xorg.conf in the pastebin?
[12:45] <ubu_on_epia> Mom
[12:45] <ejofee> talavera: have you closed it?
[12:46] <talavera> ejofee: ok
[12:46] <Blue-Steel> where do i set the mirrors to be able to apt-get the OS ? i did server install. but nlike debian it did not ask me for the list or repositories
[12:46] <ejofee> talavera: have you? you just say when
[12:46] <irvin> Blue-Steel, it's on /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:46] <ejofee> talavera: do you still have that file open?
[12:47] <talavera> ejofee: no
[12:47] <ejofee> talavera: the text file
[12:47] <ejofee> talavera: what happened?
[12:47] <Blue-Steel> irvin thank u
[12:47] <ejofee> talavera: you accidentally closed it?
[12:47] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:47] <ejofee> talavera: ok, then run again: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:47] <talavera> ejofee: that's right
[12:47] <ejofee> talavera: you have to edit something in it, are you ready?
[12:48] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:48] <Mabus06> Can someone give me some help with samba? When I go to networking, it prompts for login info. I fill it in, and it asks for it again. Repeat.
[12:48] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: which epia board hav eyou got?
[12:48] <ejofee> talavera: ok. now visit this link and do exactly what it says (i wrote it): http://pastebin.com/465089
[12:48] <ejofee> talavera: tell me when you're finished, ok?
[12:49] <irvin> Blue-Steel, np
[12:50] <ubu_on_epia> Ok, here' my xorg-conf  and lspci:
[12:50] <ubu_on_epia> http://pastebin.com/465096
[12:50] <Jared> how do i add fonts to ubuntu
[12:51] <ejofee> Jared: i guess you could do it from kcontrol (search through the menu)
[12:51] <talavera> ejofee: all right
[12:52] <talavera> ejofee: i've finish
[12:52] <ejofee> talavera: have you saved it?
[12:52] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:52] <ejofee> talavera: have you closed it?
[12:52] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[12:52] <wouterrr> guys.... hello! i've installed ubuntu for a guy on school, he was interesed in Linux. Everything all right, for one thing. I edited menu.lst in /boot/grub for the Windows Parition. Now, i've configured grub over a thousand times, but it won't boot and says: error 12
[12:52] <tRSS> my breezy says "setting up realplayer (10.0....)" but I cant find it anywhere? I did a sudo dpkg -i realplayer_package.deb
[12:53] <fastly> i notice that 5.10 actually comes with openoffice 1.9.129, not the final release of 2...
[12:53] <ejofee> talavera: ok, now go to a console and run "sudo apt-get update" (without the quotation marks, of course)
[12:53] <odat> Jowi, still here?
[12:53] <wouterrr> I've got this annoying problem with Ubuntu 5.10
[12:53] <irvin> tRSS, try whereis realplayer
[12:53] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: try to remove fbdev in xorg.conf and add  BusID and change driver to "via" again and add "PCI:1:0:0"  to the Section "Device"
[12:53] <tRSS> irvin: no result
[12:53] <Jared> ejofee: i use gnome
[12:54] <Squee-D> is there a grub syntax checker?
[12:54] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: that is, remove the whole line with the fbdev, or comment it out.
[12:54] <irvin> tRSS, did you follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?
[12:54] <fastly> anyone here know how to get openoffice 2 final release?
[12:54] <ejofee> Jared: oops...
[12:54] <ubu_on_epia> Tried that before.... have 3 different xorg.conf's to fiddle around with....
[12:54] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: whooops. should say: add BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[12:54] <talavera> ejofee: ok
[12:54] <talavera> ejofee: next
[12:54] <tRSS> irvin: let me check there first, i havent checked this website yet
[12:54] <ejofee> talavera: finished?
[12:55] <odat> Jowi, i just check the xserver log and it said  "can not read /etc/X11/X  symbolic link invalid argument
[12:55] <talavera> ejofee: next
[12:55] <ubu_on_epia> Can anyone positively acknowledge, that the stock via xmodules in Breezy work??
[12:55] <ejofee> talavera: ok. now "sudo synaptic"
[12:55] <Jowi> odat: you uninstalled X!?
[12:55] <ejofee> talavera: how many packages now?
[12:56] <tRSS> irvin: i am going to download the package and try again.. thanks for the URL
[12:56] <odat> Jowi, no i never uninstalled it
[12:56] <thegladiator> can someone help me in making a deb from RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[12:56] <thegladiator>   ?
[12:56] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: i can. they work. i use them now. only need to activate drm/dri + chipset in kernel.
[12:56] <irvin> tRSS, no prob
[12:56] <talavera> ejofee: ok
[12:56] <ejofee> talavera: how many?
[12:56] <talavera> ejofee: 17927
[12:56] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, can u show ur xorg.conf in pastebin, plz?
[12:56] <talavera> ejofee: listed
[12:56] <ejofee> talavera: cool
[12:56] <irvin> thegladiator, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has nice instructions on how to get Real Player working
[12:57] <talavera> ejofee: now i have d4x
[12:57] <ejofee> talavera: now what do you want to install?
[12:57] <u|qos> how can i see via console a list of all packages which are installed?
[12:57] <ejofee> talavera: of course you have it... together with lots of other apps
[12:57] <thegladiator> irvin, i checked that one , it says to download deb package while i have a bin with me
[12:57] <talavera> ejofee: which are my possibilities
[12:57] <thegladiator> i thought i would try compiling a making a deb out of it
[12:57] <ejofee> talavera: it depends on what you want
[12:57] <ejofee> talavera: ... or need
[12:57] <talavera> ejofee: i don't know, a messenger
[12:58] <ejofee> talavera: gaim
[12:58] <tRSS> thegladiator: bin file won't help you.. get the deb file
[12:58] <talavera> ejofee: some things but only as a user
[12:58] <irvin> thegladiator, try running it instead ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[12:58] <thegladiator> let me try that...
[12:58] <thegladiator> tRSS, why do u say that >?
[12:58] <odat> any suggestions?
[12:58] <ejofee> talavera: install everything that includes gaim
[12:59] <yshsu168> Does anybody use gaim-cvs???
[12:59] <ejofee> talavera: (for example: "gaim-encryption", "gaim-irchelper", "gaim-guifications", etc.)
[12:59] <irvin> thegladiator, tRSS has the same problem
[12:59] <Mabus06> everything that includes gaim, ejofee? is that wise?
[12:59] <Mabus06> oh, everything with the gaim- prefix yes
[12:59] <thegladiator> i see tRSS did u try that one and u didnt get any result ?
[12:59] <thegladiator> did u unstall the lib needed ?
[12:59] <ejofee> Mabus06: well, i want talavera to see what gaim can do (together with its plugins)
[01:00] <Mabus06> Not every result that pops up for gaim in a synaptic search
[01:00] <fastly> is the final version of openoffice 2 available on any of the package management systems?
[01:00] <ejofee> Mabus06: i don't think any plugin poses any serious security threat, am i wrong?
[01:00] <Mabus06> You can install things really not related to gaim at all.
[01:00] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: here's yours modified: http://pastebin.com/465107, here's mine http://pastebin.com/465108 (remember that i have LCD screen so it will be a bit different)
[01:00] <Mabus06> That might pop up in the search because they're 'compatible with gaim' or somesuch.
[01:00] <talavera> ejofee: so i have to install everything that include gaim
[01:00] <thegladiator> sudo always asks me for a password ...when is that set  ?
[01:01] <ejofee> Mabus06: ohh, no, i guess talavera will only look at packages beginning with "gaim" (which i am sure are only gaim related)
[01:01] <Ng> thegladiator: the password for your user
[01:01] <Mabus06> talavera, everything with the gaim- prefix..  gaim-irchelper, etc
[01:01] <irvin> thegladiator, use your user password
[01:01] <thegladiator> thanks
[01:01] <Ng> thegladiator: you would have set it during the install
[01:01] <thegladiator> yep i got it
[01:01] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, thx, hold on a sec.. :-)
[01:01] <tRSS> thegladiator: actually i am trying the deb package myself right now. I am downloading it right now and I will provide feedback about it soon
[01:01] <odat> Jowi,  any idea?
[01:01] <ejofee> talavera: everything that begins with "gaim-", including gaim itself
[01:01] <yshsu168> fastly: When installed breezy, it is already OOO2.
[01:01] <thegladiator> thank you , tRSS did u ionstall the lobs needed before trying out with bin ?
[01:01] <Jowi> odat: not really. no idea why X would have dissapeared.
[01:01] <talavera> ejofee: u know if i can use the same mail (hotmail i mean)
[01:02] <ejofee> Mabus06: i didn't teach talavera how to use search... it's all about the quick search
[01:02] <tRSS> thegladiator: yes, i did try it with the libs
[01:02] <ejofee> talavera: yes, you can. also, yahoo, aol, etc.
[01:02] <ejofee> talavera: gaim is multiprotocol
[01:02] <thegladiator> tRSS, ok
[01:02] <Mabus06> ejofee, teach? are you dealin with a virgin here? :D
[01:03] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: i also did not specify any video ram in my file.
[01:03] <ejofee> Mabus06: he's quite much of a newbye
[01:03] <ejofee> Mabus06: so... yes
[01:03] <ejofee> Mabus06 :)
[01:03] <Mabus06> ubuntu is easy for newbies, talavera. Trust me, I am one.
[01:03] <talavera> ejofee: it aks me for the CD
[01:04] <talavera> ejofee: it's normal
[01:04] <irvin> talavera, yes if you still have it enabled
[01:04] <ejofee> Mabus06: it all depends on which kind of expectancies newbyes have, too
[01:05] <ejofee> talavera: it shouldn't... you don't have the cd, i suppose; right?
[01:05] <thegladiator> tRSS, its working fine with me
[01:05] <linx> wats the command to completely remove apache
[01:05] <thegladiator> tRSS, i installed from bin file
[01:06] <ejofee> Mabus06: many newbyes don't even know anything like apt-get actually is possible or feasible
[01:06] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, i'll simply try ur xorg.conf (for a dumb run)... U did recompile ur Kernel from the plain vanilla 2.6.12 sources with the epia-patch applied?
[01:06] <tRSS> thegladiator: thanks for the input! much appreciated :)
[01:06] <talavera> ejofee: no i have it, don't worry
[01:06] <thegladiator> tRSS, welcome but i cant see the video though , hear sound only :)
[01:06] <thegladiator> tRSS, working on it
[01:07] <ejofee> talavera: have what?
[01:07] <tRSS> thegladiator: keep us updated if you make any progress!
[01:07] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: i use lcd monitor. use your own monitor section. it will fail otherwise probably. and yes, i wrote the wiki, so i recompiled with the patch from the vanilla.
[01:07] <thegladiator> yep
[01:07] <ubu_on_epia> Oh, i see
[01:07] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: which epia board you got?
[01:07] <albacker> thegladiator, hows ubuntu ? better than fc ? right ?!
[01:08] <ubu_on_epia> M10k
[01:08] <thegladiator> does nyone know ehy the real player doesnt show the screen , yet play the audio
[01:08] <thegladiator> exactly
[01:08] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: me too
[01:08] <ejofee> talavera: (was focusing on something else, i got it you were talking about the cd)
[01:08] <thegladiator> much better albacker , simpler easier
[01:08] <thegladiator> thanks actually :D
[01:08] <albacker> :) im glad you like uit.
[01:08] <albacker> it *
[01:08] <talavera> ejofee: yes
[01:08] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: did x start before with the via driver?
[01:09] <ejofee> talavera: from synaptic... you can install whatever you want...
[01:09] <ubu_on_epia> Ok, I'll be back in a minute.... trying ur xorg.conf (monitor section doesn#t matter, is a CRT anyway which does 60Hz :-))
[01:09] <ejofee> talavera: synaptic is somthing like "add / remove programs" from windows, only much more advanced
[01:10] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: but lcd does not need horizsync. your monitor do.
[01:10] <talavera> ejofee: that's really good
[01:10] <ejofee> talavera: what is your favourite browser
[01:10] <talavera> ejofee: i want to ask u sth
[01:10] <talavera> ejofee: are u a user of linux or sth else?
[01:11] <ejofee> talavera: yes, it's very good... what were you thinking?: microsoft actually has reasons to fear gnu/linux :)
[01:11] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, thx for the hint, I'll edit that
[01:11] <ejofee> talavera: yes, i "use" gnu/linux... why?
[01:11] <albacker> talavera, if he is in ubuntu hes a linux user ? right..
[01:11] <tRSS> thegladiator: I got realplayer10 working by using the deb file... checking video and audio now
[01:12] <talavera> ejofee: i don't know, i think u know too much about it
[01:12] <albacker> thegladiator, dont you have realplayer in apt-get ? why are you trying to get .bins and .debs ?
[01:13] <ejofee> talavera: that's nothing :)
[01:13] <ejofee> talavera: (i mean it... you'll soon understand why i say this)
[01:13] <elvisd> hi is possible to disable power saving features on a laptop? I.ex. running always with processor at best speed and maybe disable the disk saving feat...
[01:14] <thegladiator> albacker, i have many bins with me
[01:14] <thegladiator> actually , i didnt want to download over and over
[01:14] <thegladiator> tRSS, please give me the feed back
[01:14] <thegladiator> if ir works i guess the bin installation has some problem
[01:14] <irvin> albacker, realplayer8 is in multiverse, they want realplayer10
[01:14] <albacker> thegladiator, downloadin some megabytes is nothing, unless you use dialup [just like me :( ] 
[01:15] <Blue-Steel> no fluxbox when apt-cache search fluxbox ?
[01:15] <albacker> irvin, aha ok..
[01:15] <thegladiator> albacker, mine is limited data download as well
[01:15] <talavera> ejofee: are u working now?
[01:15] <albacker> Blue-Steel, get the .deb from fluxbox webpage.
[01:15] <Blue-Steel> humm.. and whats the package to install kde ?
[01:15] <ejofee> talavera: not really, no. you need some more help?
[01:16] <thegladiator> anyways once i installed real player altthough the video display doesnt work the codecs are exported to other players as well
[01:16] <ejofee> talavera: i can work in parallel, anyway
[01:16] <albacker> Blue-Steel, are you trying to install fluxnox or kde ?
[01:16] <Blue-Steel> i was going for flux
[01:16] <Blue-Steel> but i want both
[01:16] <Blue-Steel> or at least kde
[01:17] <irvin> Blue-Steel, sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <albacker> Blue-Steel,  : kdesktop - miscellaneous binaries and files for the KDE desktop
[01:18] <Blue-Steel> kdesktop or kunbuntu ?
[01:18] <albacker> Blue-Steel, id suggest keeping gnome, since im a gnome fan.
[01:18] <albacker> kubuntu-desktop or kdesktop
[01:18] <irvin> Blue-Steel, fluxbox is also in universe, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:18] <Blue-Steel> which one is the full package ? kdesktop or kubuntu
[01:19] <talavera> ejofee: yes u know other programs
[01:19] <albacker> Filename: pool/universe/f/fluxbox/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb
[01:19] <ejofee> talavera: depends on what you want to do
[01:19] <albacker> theres the 0.9.13 or 14 out.. so go to fluxbox.org
[01:19] <talavera> ejofee: as PPP programs
[01:19] <irvin> Blue-Steel, its kubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <talavera> ejofee: as edonkey in windows
[01:20] <ejofee> talavera: amule
[01:20] <Jowi> Blue-Steel: i think kubuntu-desktop installs kde + all ubuntu related settings and kde progs. kde should only install the wm.
[01:21] <ejofee> Jowi: btw, do you know anything better than amule for gnu/linux?
[01:22] <Jowi> ejofee: i don't use any mule progs at all
[01:22] <Jowi> no time :)
[01:22] <albacker> omg, amsn freezed !
[01:23] <ejofee> talavera: do you like winamp?
[01:23] <Jowi> albacker: that's disaster! ;)
[01:23] <talavera> ejofee: i have to do the same thing as for gaim
[01:23] <ejofee> talavera: it's equivalent here is xmms
[01:23] <irvin> ejofee, you have xmms for that
[01:23] <ejofee> talavera: no, you install only amule
[01:23] <elvisd> has some experience with laptop power saving feats?
[01:23] <albacker> Jowi, ill have to use gaim than :)
[01:23] <ejofee> irvin: i know, i was telling this to talavera (thanks anyway) :)
[01:24] <irvin> i see
[01:25] <albacker> i like beep-media-player too, its very similar to xmms, bu i like it most :D
[01:25] <ejofee> talavera: installing everything that was beginning with gaim was an *exception*. usually you need to install only one (if it needs anything else, it installs it automatically anyway)
[01:25] <mfinch> I have recently added another Linux distro to a different partition.  Ubuntu will find "other" distros on install.  How/what commands do I need to get grub to scan for other distros after bootin into Ubuntu?  Should update-grub take care of this for me?
[01:26] <albacker> if you boot into ubuntu you dont have to use grub, so you edit /etc/mtab !
[01:26] <xirtus> hey, ogle is really not working for me, anyone know of a good dvd player that support menus?
[01:26] <talavera> ejofee: so what i did with gaim, it was an exception
[01:26] <albacker> mfinch,
[01:26] <albacker> mfinch, and fstab
[01:26] <ejofee> talavera: yes, absolutely
[01:27] <elvisd> How to disable/personalize power saving features on Laptops?
[01:27] <ubu_on_epia> re
[01:27] <ejofee> talavera: usually you just install one application (with it's automatically-selected dependencies, if there is any)
[01:28] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: worked?
[01:28] <mfinch> albacker: so if my other partitons are not configured in /etc/fstab they will be ignored
[01:28] <ubu_on_epia> .... hmmm... no...
[01:28] <talavera> ejofee: u will stay here much more time
[01:28] <talavera> ejofee: because maybe i 'll have more problems latter
[01:28] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:28] <ejofee> talavera: with interruptions, yes
[01:28] <ubu_on_epia> so X does not crash, it just delivers no video.... i can hear the login-sound, but the screen stays dark
[01:29] <ubu_on_epia> got a log for U
[01:29] <irvin> mfinch, you want grub to boot another distro?
[01:29] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: brilliant
[01:29] <ejofee> talavera: however, many people here are nice and willing to help :)
[01:29] <talavera> ejofee: so i could ask u for your msn and we can talk by messenger?
[01:29] <ejofee> talavera: we also help each other
[01:29] <albacker> mfinch, your partition should be something like /dev/hdaX [where X is a number] , you mount the partition to some directory; as root => mkdir /mnt/partition; mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/partition [change X to the partition number] ; you can use this comand in fstab !! so its don automatically when ubuntu boots.
[01:29] <ejofee> talavera: why not. however, i strongly prefer yahoo.
[01:30] <talavera> ejofee: maybe at the moment my help isn't so needed
[01:30] <ejofee> talavera: it sends offline messages (plus other features)
[01:30] <ejofee> talavera: maybe not. but soon it will be.
[01:30] <ejofee> talavera :)
[01:31] <lfop> Hi, is there any guide how to compile, build and install from source? / From .gz, bz2. Thanks.
[01:31] <talavera> ejofee: anyway i can give mine: talaverant22@hotmail.com
[01:31] <ejofee> lfop: usually, most packages come with a specific howto. i don't think you need a general how to on this issue, really.
[01:31] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, here's the X-log:
[01:31] <albacker> mfinch, si first you should know whats your partitions name in /dev directory, and than mount it.. or just add the automountin-line into fstab. that should be all..
[01:31] <ubu_on_epia> http://pastebin.com/465134
[01:32] <ejofee> talavera: ok, thanks
[01:32] <irvin> lfop, there's usually an INSTALL or README instruction included in a source package
[01:32] <lfop> ok
[01:33] <albacker> lfop, most of the times its ./configure; make; as root : make install, and thats done.. but it depends. So reading the README is the best chooice.
[01:33] <mfinch> irvin, albacker: I am explaining something wrong.  During Ubuntu install grub "probed" for other Linux distros (/dev/hda1).  Just added another distro to /dev/hda6 and want grub to "probe" again.  Thoughts?
[01:34] <lfop> thanks guys.
[01:34] <irvin> mfinch, try running update-grub again...
[01:34] <albacker> mfinch, you want to see in grub menu ;; the other distro ? right ?
[01:35] <albacker> if you want to edit grub-boot-menu than you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ! hope ive understood you now.
[01:36] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: first things first: drm not found. hang on, will check my kernel for that option. 2nd: your monitor values are off (vrefresh and hsync are wrong). will check drm first though.
[01:36] <ubu_on_epia> thx, will hang on
[01:40] <rockz> i have a little problem... i compile my program and when i run (f3) my program it dont run... a message appear: anyone runable for this file (translate portuguese to english)
[01:41] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: DRM is here (seems like you forgot that vital part. make gconfig in the linux-source-epia dir) Character devices -> Direct Rendering Manager -> Via unichrome video cards DRM_VIA
[01:42] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, let me check that (doing menuconfig, btw)
[01:42] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: also be sure you have /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) AGP -> VIA chipset support AGP_VIA
[01:42] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: alright, also make sure it is not a module. should be compiled into the kernel itself
[01:42] <xirtus> ok so i have the 64bit build of ubuntu and i need a compatible dvd player. any suggestions?
[01:43] <raid> hi all, could some1 help me with permissions problem. I'm having troubles with my usb flash disks, very time i try to change or to modify a file it stops me because ubuntu mounts it as "read-only". I need to change permanently my permissions to "/media" as to be able to use and modify all files taht are mounted in it... same is for my home dir where some files dont have permissions (i can modify them with left click in home... but its ann
[01:43] <raid> oying)... any1???
[01:44] <irvin> raid does your usb disk have a write-protect switch?
[01:45] <raid> irvin, no... :P not that noob :P:P
[01:45] <raid> irvin, having the same trouble with usb external HD
[01:45] <Mabus06> rule of troubleshooting: easiest solutions first
[01:45] <irvin> hmm
[01:48] <raid> any ideas?
[01:48] <learnfromscratch> i had installed lftp ... but when i connect it says Login failed: 550 SSL/TLS required on the control channel ...
[01:48] <raid> i cant write on my external HD or flashdisk, so i was wondering if i could just change permanently permissions to /media
[01:48] <rockz> i have a little problem... i compile my program and when i run (f3) my program dont run... a message appear: anyone runable for this file (translate portuguese to english)
[01:49] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, so agppart, direct rendering manager, and via unichrome are compiled in... 8no module)
[01:50] <debussy> ?
[01:50] <irvin> raid, what's the current permission of /media?
[01:50] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: yep, that's it.
[01:51] <Knight_Lord> rockz what?
[01:51] <debussy> what?
[01:51] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: and in agpgart there is a "Via chipset support" as well
[01:51] <rockz> my C program dont run
[01:51] <ubu_on_epia> I'm pretty sure i double checked the kernel config.... it takes ages to compile :-0
[01:51] <rockz> i compile the program... ok
[01:51] <Knight_Lord> rockz can you paste the original message
[01:52] <Knight_Lord> rockz (even if it's in portuguese)
[01:52] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: will be quicker this time to compile. depends on how many modules you have. the more modules, the longer time it will take
[01:52] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, via-agp support is compiled in
[01:52] <rockz> in portuguese: Nenhum executvel para este arquivo.
[01:52] <Knight_Lord> rockz open a shell and check the permissions of the file
[01:52] <rockz> ok
[01:53] <ubu_on_epia> rockz, try chmod +x on that file
[01:53] <Knight_Lord> rockz you can also check with "file <filaname>" to see what kind of file it is
[01:53] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: very good. then you MUST check your monitor ranges. they are way off, probably that's why you don't get a picture but hear a sound. fix that before you compile.
[01:53] <Blue-Steel> how do i add  the kdm scritp to boot ? or once we install  kde its auto-done ?
[01:54] <raid> irvin, its 755
[01:54] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: "sudo ddcprobe" should give you plenty of info
[01:54] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, I think my kernel is fine so far... will do another dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with conservative settings. be back in a minute
[01:54] <raid> irvin, i dont have write permissions on group and others
[01:55] <rockz> if i create a new program it dont run too
[01:56] <irvin> raid, that's the same as mine
[01:57] <irvin> raid, if you know the device name of the external disks you can try hardcoding it to /etc/fstab and mount it on your home folder
[01:57] <irvin> like /home/raid/external
[01:57] <raid> irvin, i tried to format also my external disks with gparted, but i dont have permissions...
[01:57] <raid> irvin, ok... but i'm gonna have to do it every time for every external disk i mount?
[01:58] <irvin> umm.. automounting of usb disks should work in breezy
[01:58] <albacker> yes you have to do it, unless you edit fstab
[01:58] <albacker> /etc/fstab
[01:59] <irvin> and mount -a later
[01:59] <raid> albacker, i'm too noob to do that yet
[02:00] <raid> albacker, dont know how, i'm still learning how to mount with terminal... :((
[02:00] <irvin> raid, can you do a test for us?
[02:00] <raid> irvin, of course
[02:00] <irvin> raid, can you insert your usb disk and try pasting what mount says
[02:00] <raid> ok
[02:01] <raid> wai, i'll get it
[02:01] <albacker> raid, mount /dev/devicename mountpoint     where mountpoint is a dir
[02:02] <Troggeh> A quick question for safety: Does the ubuntu installer check an existing boot-partition I previously declared to be /boot for an existing grub before overwriting and killing my existing grub-config ?
[02:02] <talavera> i have download a file and i don't know where is the file?
[02:02] <irvin> talavera, maybe on your desktop
[02:03] <albacker> talavera, what did you downloaded it with ?
[02:03] <albacker> desktop, homedir or /temp
[02:03] <talavera> amule
[02:03] <albacker> it might be on /temp my firefox downloads files there :)
[02:03] <albacker> there should be something like ~/.amule
[02:03] <mumu> just installed. having major problems...
[02:03] <albacker>  /home/talavera/.amule
[02:04] <albacker> try that, and see if theres any download directory.
[02:04] <ejofee> what i love about ubuntu is that it doesn't have anything like a comercial version, with us using a shitty "community version" (like some bunch of... testers, as mandriva, redhat, suse, etc. make their community members feel like), while it still compares to them in quality. i simply feel respected in this community.
[02:04] <raid> irvin, devicename is what i see in "computer"
[02:04] <raid> irvin, ???
[02:04] <mumu> does anyone know why sudo wouldn't work? no error message. sudo just doesn't work.
[02:04] <irvin> raid, can you open a Terminal for us?
[02:05] <Jowi> mumu: exactly what do you type?
[02:05] <Knight_Lord> mumu it there's not error message, then it works ;-)
[02:05] <raid> irvin, did so... how do i see my devicename?
[02:05] <irvin> Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[02:05] <mumu> say, sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <mumu> nothing happens.
[02:05] <odat> i know this is ubuntu which i use daily and i'm using right now but can anyone give me an honest opinion of which is faster gnome or kde
[02:05] <albacker> raid, device name is something like hda1, hda2, hda3 or sda1, sda2, sda3...
[02:05] <irvin> raid, what does mount say?
[02:05] <ejofee> ... if you feel what i mean :)
[02:05] <Knight_Lord> mumu what about sudo ls?
[02:05] <Troggeh> I'm terribly scared of grub-installation messing up my existing bootloader.config
[02:06] <raid> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:06] <raid> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[02:06] <raid> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[02:06] <raid> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[02:06] <raid> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[02:06] <raid> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[02:06] <raid> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:06] <raid> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[02:06] <raid> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[02:06] <mumu> sudo ls negative. sudo su negative. sudo anything negative.
[02:06] <Mabus06> no pastes
[02:06] <alamba> hi all...anyone here tried out LTSP on ubuntu?
[02:06] <Mabus06> !paste
[02:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:06] <raid> mabus06, sorry
[02:06] <talavera> i haven't such file
[02:06] <irvin> yes raid, please use the pastebin
[02:06] <Mabus06> raid, just telling you before some grumpy oldbie yells
[02:06] <mustard5> :)
[02:06] <mumu> i just created this user doing `adduser mumu`. maybe that doesn't work?
[02:06] <Mabus06> oh, hey there mustard5
[02:06] <mustard5> hey Mabus06 :)
[02:07] <Jowi> mumu: you must add the "admin" group to the user
[02:07] <raid> will keep in mind, nobody told me so far :P
[02:07] <mumu> jowi: tks
[02:07] <irvin> raid, i should have sorry
[02:07] <raid> irvin, np... "ignorantia lex non excusat" :D
[02:08] <raid> irvin, my bad... anyway... going back to my prob... what should i do now ?
[02:08] <irvin> raid, is the device present in /media ?
[02:09] <albacker> CYA ALL
[02:09] <Jowi> cu albacker
[02:09] <irvin> bye albacker
[02:09] <raid> no, i unmounted it
[02:10] <irvin> :-(
[02:10] <raid> remounting, sorry
[02:10] <mustard5> hehe
[02:11] <irvin> it appears that the device is automounted with rw access, there should be an icon on the desktop
[02:11] <raid> ok, should i repaste you mount output?
[02:11] <raid> irvin, there is
[02:11] <knubbe> anyone who can help me to enable gd in php on ubuntu?
[02:12] <irvin> raid, can you double-click on it any try creating a folder?
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> is the gcc in ubuntu multiarch? ie, there isn't a special one to install for compiling 386 binaries on a x86_64 system?
[02:12] <raid> irvin, thats not my problm... i can use my flash disks
[02:13] <raid> irvin, i cant for xample format them with gparted or so
[02:13] <raid> irvin, and having problems with my external hd, it all seems ok when i write and all but afetr i unmount and when i try to use it with other pc i find nothign in it... as if it hadnt writtn everything...
[02:15] <Jowi> raid: if the disk/partition is locked in gparted you have to unmount it first. if it is not locked and nothing seem to happen after you apply the changes, try to reboot the pc (the partition table might have been changed)
[02:16] <raid> irvin, if i unmount it it disappears from gparted list of devices
[02:16] <irvin> raid, of course it should
[02:16] <Jowi> raid: then you should add it to fstab, but add the option "noauto"
[02:17] <Jowi> raid, example: /dev/hda1      /media/windows  vfat    defaults,user,noauto,umask=000  0       0
[02:18] <bradley_> any tips on getting java to work with firefox?
[02:18] <Jowi> !java
[02:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:18] <raid> irvin, ok, so what i'm i doing... i'm disabling the automatic mounting of that volume?
[02:18] <Jowi> there you go bradley_ , the restrictedformats page got the plugin covered as well
[02:19] <_sebastian> Hi I need help.  I have set up Apache,  PHP, and MySQL to wrok on my Ubuntu.  and now I am trying to make it so people can put in my ip address in there browser and connect to my web server.   I have tryed to  open up the ports on my router.  and stuff.    ,but nope when I put my own ip address in.  I ccannot connect to it
[02:20] <korhalf> apache isnt up.
[02:20] <ubu_on_epia> re
[02:20] <_sebastian> what?
[02:20] <bradley_> thanks!
[02:20] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: update please
[02:20] <korhalf> _sebastian, try typing localhost in the address bar, if that doesnt work, restart apache with sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[02:20] <ubu_on_epia> tried another monitor (better one)
[02:20] <ubu_on_epia> so it's not a sync prob
[02:20] <_sebastian> yes Apache is running
[02:20] <korhalf> remember to open port 80
[02:21] <_sebastian> i'll try that korhalf and I tryed to open port 80
[02:21] <korhalf> and it maybe possible that your isp doesnt allow you to use port 80 or something
[02:21] <ubu_on_epia> the monitor would tell me, if the video is out of sync. But there's just no video output with the via xmodule
[02:21] <lfop> is firefox released under some kind of free software license?
[02:21] <mjr> lfop, yes, it is
[02:22] <lfop> how come there is no source to download
[02:22] <_sebastian> yes localhost works
[02:22] <mjr> yes, there is
[02:22] <lfop> oh
[02:22] <lfop> k
[02:22] <ubu_on_epia> dri and stuff is loaded and seems to work, according to the logs....
[02:23] <ubu_on_epia> .... hmmm... so why is there no (/&$-ing video :-(
[02:23] <_sebastian> well I opended up a port in my routher configuration page.  a efw weeks or more ago.  so I could host my game.  I just put the port in the special application stuff.  and it worked.  I treyd the same thing with 80  for APpache, but nnoope that won't do it
[02:23] <lfop> ubu_on_epia, what is your problem?
[02:23] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: i tell you. the monitor values are whack. what is your monitor model and number?
[02:24] <Jowi> lfop: customer epia kernel with dri.
[02:24] <_sebastian> I was reading some webpages.  and something about how Apache can be set up to use a virtual server or something?
[02:24] <Jowi> customer = custom
[02:25] <redguy||work> _sebastian: the best advice you can get is to read more of these webpages you were talking about
[02:25] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: paste me your new xorg.conf
[02:26] <ubu_on_epia> One is an el cheapo (Scott 14-inch TE518B) which i just use for setting up the boxes, and i tried my big Fujitsu-Siemens M2102 21 inch lately
[02:26] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: which one you want to use?
[02:26] <_sebastian> or have I opended up port 80 wrong in my routher configuration?  Trigger Port 80  Public Port 80  Public Type TCP Enabled Tick.  and that's a SMC Networks router by the way
[02:27] <ubu_on_epia> None of them.... it's going to be a 15 inch TFT, but it's not here at the moment
[02:28] <jonty34>  Hello im new to linux, I have a network setup with a windows pc and a linux pc. How would i run a windows program from the windows machine on my linux pc using Wine over the network? Is there any other programs i could use?
[02:28] <ejofee> is it feasible to port yast to ubuntu?
[02:28] <guest_> hi
[02:28] <guest_> how do i shut off autocompletion in openoffice2?
[02:29] <Goshawk> i've problem play a dvd... this is the error reported by totem: Could not read title information for DVD.
[02:29] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. when selecting the monitor untick all values except 1024x768 (just to make sure). select the via driver and dri. after your done, give me the xorg.conf and i check it out.
[02:30] <redguy||work> ejofee: i've heard that some people are trying to port yast to debian
[02:30] <ubu_on_epia> Here's my current xorg.conf (except that I changed the driver back to vesa...)
[02:30] <ubu_on_epia> http://pastebin.com/465186
[02:30] <ejofee> guest_: tools (menu entry) / autocorrect (menu entry) / word completion (tab)
[02:31] <ejofee> guest_: is this what you were looking for?
[02:31] <ejofee> redguy||work: is it serious a project?
[02:31] <guest_> oh, of couse ejofee
[02:31] <guest_> thank you a lot man : )
[02:31] <ejofee> guest_: anytime! :)
[02:31] <guest_> See you around :) )
[02:32] <redguy||work> ejofee: http://yast4debian.alioth.debian.org/
[02:32] <ejofee> redguy||work: thank you
[02:32] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: the horiz values are definetley wrong.
[02:32] <gnomefreak> it should be safe to go into grub/menu.lst and just change the name of one of the operating systems right?
[02:32] <ejofee> hey, anybody have any idea what happened to #gentoo? why has it disappeared from freenode just like that?
[02:32] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: sudo ddcprobe to check
[02:33] <ejofee> (and then reappeared)
[02:34] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, yes, I'll paste the output of ddcprobe into the xorg.conf...
[02:34] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: k
[02:35] <ubu_on_epia> http://pastebin.com/465189 is the ddc-probe-output for the currently connected el-cheapo
[02:37] <Goshawk> what about this error reading a dvd? libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
[02:39] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: looks ok. did you run the via driver successfully before doing the wiki?
[02:41] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: it's me, ubu_on_epia, from my big box...
[02:42] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: k. did you get my last message?
[02:42] <stef_ubu_epia> No, was fumbling on the xorg.conf
[02:42] <linuX|BowlingX> hi
[02:43] <geloescht> how can i check, which version of ndiswrapper is included in ubuntu 5.10?
[02:43] <stef_ubu_epia> Ok, where do you think is the problem: 1.) kernel miscompiled 2.) xorg.conf 3.) drivers buggy?
[02:43] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: ddcprobe look good. did the via driver work before you compiled the epia kernel from the wiki?
[02:43] <linuX|BowlingX> iam new @ubuntu and i have a small question :D, whats about the root account? I never give a password, how can i join my root Account after a fresh installation?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> packages.ubuntu.com has a list of all packages for all distros of ubuntu
[02:44] <Amaranth> !tell linuX|BowlingX about sudo
[02:44] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: no, never... the only time the via driver was working was with an old Knoppix CD with Xfree 4.3... never got it to work with xorg
[02:45] <stef_ubu_epia> but the via driver on xfree did only 640x480
[02:45] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: are you using a standard breezy install?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> safe to change name of os in grub but keep boot options and parameters the same?
[02:45] <linuX|BowlingX> k, thanks ;)
[02:45] <stef_ubu_epia> yup, freshly installed and untweaked (except dist-upgrade)
[02:47] <DeathWatch> wenas
[02:47] <DeathWatch> alguien vivo por ahi?
[02:47] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: hmmm. my via driver worked fine in 2d on a fresh install.
[02:47] <stef_ubu_epia> Maybe i should try the binary drivers from viaarena (as told in epiawiki.org)
[02:48] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi, is there a way u could send me your kernel image? Would a test help at all?
[02:49] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: try to install one of the linux-restricted-modules as well. i will put up all the files on my webserver. hang
[02:50] <lahDdah> hi all.. newbie ubuntu user.. it rocks
[02:51] <linkd> yay
[02:52] <u|qos> why can't i use log_progress_msg? always "command not found" ... i included ". /lib/lsb/init-functions" ... does somebody know?
[02:52] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: not sure the image will do you much good since I probably have other modules. but take it if you wish. i also put my kernel .config file. cp it to your sourcedir and make it, and don't forget to install the modules.
[02:52] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: http://underlig.homelinux.org
[02:53] <k31th> watsup
[02:54] <jono> is there a way to turn off usplash on boot?
[02:54] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: thx so far... for diagnostic purposes they will help me, even if they don't work as a working kernel
[02:54] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: wierd. maybe it's worth installing fresh and see if via driver work in xorg for you in pure 2d.
[02:55] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: we have the same board (haven't we? running the Nehemia cpu?)
[02:55] <stef_ubu_epia> jang on, got to switch over to the epia-box
[02:55] <selinium> hi all, i am doing a remote upgrade on a PC, it appaers to have locked up on a fontconfig question.  What is my best option now?
[02:56] <selinium> hi thoreauputic :)
[02:56] <thoreauputic> hi selinium :)
[02:57] <drcode> hi all
[02:57] <drcode> how I can setupup socks 5 in linux?
[02:57] <drcode> any idea?
[02:58] <esj> are there any good instructions on how to take an existing debian package and convert it to ubuntu?
[02:58] <indypende> someone know something like kuake for GNOME?
[02:58] <jdub> indypende: describe it
[02:58] <esj> drcode: first, use the basic install process even to you by the .deb package from the ubuntu repository
[02:59] <drcode> I know
[02:59] <esj> then look look for general socks5 instructions and use that to modify the baseline configuration
[02:59] <drcode> but socks 5 , any one know good server on l inux
[02:59] <indypende> jdub, kuake.. pressing F12 on the desltop a terminal descend from the top of the screen...
[02:59] <Jowi> !info kuake
[02:59] <DuXia> hi
[02:59] <ubotu> kuake: (Console which looks like Quake game console), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.3-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 248 kB
[02:59] <esj> I wish I could give you more specifics, but it's been almost a decade since I've seen any call for that particular package
[02:59] <DuXia> anyone's free? i need some help
[03:00] <Jowi> hehe, cool
[03:00] <redguy||work> !ask
[03:00] <jdub> indypende: ah, that's right - not that i know of, though you could hook it kuake up in gnome, i'm sure
[03:00] <esj> don't we all (need some help)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> DuXia, ask in the room if someone knows they will answer
[03:00] <redguy||work> darn
[03:00] <DuXia> how do i install a mail server?
[03:00] <jdub> indypende: wouldn't be a tough hack to do the same thing with gnome/vte
[03:00] <DuXia> i tried postfix + courier but failed
[03:00] <esj> DuXia
[03:01] <DuXia> now i am trying hula project
[03:01] <indypende> jdub, i will try find it on google
[03:01] <DuXia> but cannot seem to send mail to outside world
[03:01] <esj> DuXia: is not a the project but I think you want with the wrong components
[03:01] <indypende> jdub, my question it's only for a fast and sure reply!
[03:01] <esj> postfix is fine but courier is way too complicated for most people
[03:01] <indypende> thanks
[03:01] <ubu_on_epia> Jowi, thx, got the config and image. /lib/modules folder 2.6.12.3-epia is correct?
[03:01] <esj> I would recommend postfix and dovecot
[03:01] <DuXia> when i install postfix, i can send email thru php mail function
[03:02] <DuXia> but i cannot test the connection using telnet
[03:02] <DuXia> any idea why? i got stuck at the mail from: command
[03:02] <esj> the port 25 connection?
[03:02] <DuXia> yup.. telnet localhost 25
[03:02] <DuXia> then when i type mail from:, the entire screen froze
[03:02] <DuXia> cannot even exit
[03:03] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: huh? /lib/modules what?
[03:03] <esj> I don't think the screen froze.  I think what happened was the system was probably waiting for DNS resolution
[03:03] <DuXia> oh.. so how shld i resolve it?
[03:03] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: yes, correct
[03:03] <esj> if you had typed the telnet escape sequence, you would have returned back to the command prompt
[03:04] <esj> first test would be to make sure DNS is working properly both internally and externally
[03:04] <DuXia> what is the escape sequence for telnet?
[03:04] <esj> host is the first level command
[03:04] <thegladiator> hi
[03:04] <ubu_on_epia> The modules-folder which goes with this bzImage .. mine is 2.6.12.3-epia... I can#t boot ur image if I don't have the proper modules-folder installed, of course
[03:04] <DuXia> and how to test my DNS?
[03:04] <esj> you are told the escape sequence when you first type telnet commands
[03:04] <redguy|work> DuXia: AFAIR ctrl-[
[03:04] <thegladiator> i am getting a error
[03:04] <thegladiator> i cant mount cd rooms
[03:04] <thegladiator> Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[03:04] <DuXia> oh ok.. i didnt notice it
[03:05] <thegladiator> i could mount it a while back
[03:05] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: the bzImage is your /vmlinuz file
[03:05] <DuXia> so how do i test my DNS?
[03:05] <esj> testing DNS host, dig are good options
[03:05] <ubu_on_epia> i know,
[03:05] <redguy|work> a cd room?
[03:05] <esj> test addresses both internal and external
[03:05] <thegladiator> yes cd rom
[03:05] <thegladiator> sorry
[03:05] <ubu_on_epia> ok, let me put it in place and have a test drive...
[03:05] <DuXia> wat is the command to use?
[03:05] <esj> host or dig
[03:06] <esj> as in host Google.com
[03:06] <thegladiator> the cd used to work when i installed the machine
[03:06] <DuXia> u mean both are valid tools?
[03:06] <esj> or dig yahoo.com
[03:06] <thegladiator> the error now i get is Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[03:06] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: the .config goes to your source dir. if you followed the wiki it should be in /home/user/linux-2.6.12-epia/linux-2.6.12
[03:06] <esj> yes, both are valid tools.  host is simple, dig is complicated
[03:06] <K-Rich> Can anyone tell me the kernel version on a fresh breezy install?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> 2.6.9 i think
[03:07] <DuXia> so that means if i can resolve using host, then my DNS is working?
[03:07] <drazq> hi all! :)
[03:07] <thegladiator> can someone help me with mounting a cd rom ?
[03:07] <jdub> K-Rich: 2.6.12
[03:07] <thegladiator> its not mounting
[03:07] <gnomefreak> jdub,  no it isnt
[03:07] <thegladiator> Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[03:07] <K-Rich> can't be 2.6.9
[03:07] <momo> hello again friendly helper guys
[03:07] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: or actually /home/user/epia-kernel/linux-2.6.12
[03:07] <gnomefreak> 2.6.10 is the upgraded kernel version for breezy
[03:07] <jdub> gnomefreak: that's hoary
[03:07] <esj> yes, if you can resolve using host, your DNS is working
[03:08] <DuXia> if cannot, wat is the problem?
[03:08] <nickrud> gnomefreak, 2.6.12-10 you mean
[03:08] <DuXia> is it becoz my DNS servers are not configured properly?
[03:08] <thegladiator> ny experts in cd rom mounting ?
[03:08] <thegladiator> what is the cause of this error ?
[03:08] <momo> i need help changing my screen resolution. the gui applet only offers 680x480@60hz. I've browsed by xorg.conf file but haven't found a problem.
[03:08] <esj> not sure.  I would first start by testing from end to addresses on the machine
[03:08] <thegladiator> Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null) ?
[03:08] <Jowi> !tell momo about fixresolution
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ok sorry kernel version for breezy freash is 2.6.12-9
[03:08] <esj> then I would start testing from addresses on the machine to addresses external to the machine
[03:08] <thegladiator> momo > try gnome-display-properties
[03:08] <willii> hi all
[03:09] <Jowi> !tell momo about resolution
[03:09] <Jowi> ah
[03:09] <K-Rich> thanks
[03:09] <thegladiator> Jowi, do you know why cd rom is not mounting?
[03:09] <augustin> hello
[03:09] <esj> that's about where I would go at this point
[03:09] <willii> I have lokking for a ssh-server howto for unbuntu -breezy badger
[03:09] <DuXia> so if i cannot resolve, then how do i remedy the problem?
[03:09] <Jowi> thegladiator: what error you get?
[03:09] <momo> i'm afraid the applet only offers 640x480. this must be  amistake
[03:09] <thegladiator> Jowi, Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[03:09] <esj> if you cannot get to resolve, I would look at the settings in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:09] <thegladiator> Jowi, my wild is guess is it has to do with HAL
[03:09] <augustin> anyone knows how i can force a Java program to use a character set different from the default system one ? i want it to launch using the Western one instead of UTF-8
[03:09] <esj> make sure they point to valid name servers.
[03:09] <Jowi> thegladiator: hal error?
[03:09] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: Ok, I've set up ur kernel, and changed the xmodule back to via... x-ing fingers for a reboot
[03:10] <thegladiator> Jowi, when i sometimes log in as root i get some hal error
[03:10] <esj> If you are using DHCP, you are probably getting valid name servers but you never can tell
[03:10] <Jowi> thegladiator: no idea
[03:10] <thegladiator> Jowi, not sure Error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> hey, how do you do remote desktoping? the link it gives just says localhost and stuff
[03:11] <esj> by the way, people may tell you to use a static IP address for servers but if you use DHCP with allocations bound to your Mac address, it's just as good and many times better
[03:11] <DuXia> my first dns server is the ip address of my router.. is it correct? or shld i use the dns server provided by my isp?
[03:11] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: if i were you, you should copy the .config, make, sudo make modules_install and sudo cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /vmlinuz
[03:11] <esj> unless your router is also a DNS proxy (such as ipcop), that's a problem
[03:12] <redguy||work> DuXia: that depends if you have a DNS server in your router
[03:12] <drazq> Wireless problem: I've installed ndiswrapper and the winxp drivers for my usb wireless dongle (sys & inf). but when I do an "iwconfig" I don't see wlan0 there .. just eth0 etc. with "no wireless extensions." .. anyone know what the problem might be?
[03:12] <esj> what type of router do you have?
[03:12] <DuXia> speedtouch
[03:12] <DuXia> model i think is 570
[03:13] <esj> isn't that a usb adsl router?
[03:13] <redguy||work> sin't that an adsl modem?
[03:13] <hmpedersen> Windows just killed itself on my computer..
[03:13] <webwolf_27> hmpedersen, good riddens
[03:14] <DuXia> that's an adsl modem.. but i am connected to it using ethernet cable
[03:14] <mustard5> hmpedersen, maybe it was lonely :)
[03:14] <hmpedersen> Kept changing all my default settings.. So now, it made the decissions for me..
[03:14] <hmpedersen> decission*
[03:14] <DuXia> i test the host command
[03:14] <hmpedersen> Its going out.. And ubuntu is going in!
[03:14] <DuXia> it can resolve external address
[03:14] <esj> I found a web page http://www.speedtouch.com/pdf%5Cdatasheet570.pdf
[03:14] <mustard5> drazq, not sure what the problem might be..but the work usb wireless dongle makes me wonder what the support for that hardware is like
[03:14] <mustard5> *words
[03:14] <webwolf_27> hmpedersen, thats typical m$, assume the user is an idiot
[03:15] <hmpedersen> webwolf, yeah..
[03:15] <bushblowz> would anyone want to help me out
[03:15] <esj> yes,.  It does do DHCP and DNS proxy
[03:15] <hmpedersen> Hey.. Did anyone follow the latest discussion Linus joined in on?
[03:15] <hmpedersen> kde vs. gnome..
[03:15] <bushblowz> i dont like gnome
[03:15] <deltron> xfce :)
[03:15] <deltron> 4 that is
[03:15] <DuXia> ok. so what may be the reason the mail from: froze?
[03:16] <bushblowz> why does my ubuntu 5.10 live cd not let me connect to the internet
[03:16] <esj> how long did you give it?
[03:16] <bushblowz> but it is recognizing my etho
[03:16] <DuXia> ard 1 min or so
[03:16] <DuXia> maybe i try again now
[03:16] <esj> If it's on the order of two minutes or less, wait a bit longer and see what message you get.
[03:16] <DuXia> ok!
[03:16] <Seveas> hmpedersen, -EOLDNEWS
[03:16] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: Ok, ur bzImage won't boot on my box (probably no reiserfs-support compiled in).... but remarkably the framebuffer doesn't work (have to say vga=0)
[03:16] <DuXia> do u know abt hula project?
[03:17] <esj> also, you may want to look at the mail error logs
[03:17] <esj> and see what the system complains about.
[03:17] <hmpedersen> Seveas, just made it to newz.dk 2 days ago..
[03:17] <esj> what's the hula project?
[03:17] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: Did u update the bios on ur box (I didi not, so far)
[03:17] <drazq> mustard5: it's an ASUS wireless thing .. apparently it should work on linux (according to the company). They even have drivers source code for linux .. but I did the ndiswrapper thing cause it seemed simpler..
[03:17] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: yeah, i don't use framebuffer at all. no, no bios update.
[03:18] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: and no reiser since i never use it
[03:18] <esj> is that the mail server from Novell?
[03:18] <DuXia> another mail server by novell
[03:18] <DuXia> yup
[03:18] <DuXia> i managed to install it
[03:18] <DuXia> but i dunno how to send external mail from it
[03:18] <DuXia> very hard to configure
[03:18] <esj> I should probably check in with them because I have a very nice antispam system of developed and it needs more public exposure
[03:18] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: make gconfig (or menuconfig) and add the stuff you need. maybe it's the framebuffer that make xorg fail!
[03:18] <mustard5> drazq, hmmm..might be better to try the drivers for linux
[03:19] <mustard5> drazq, I'm going to have a look on the wiki and see what i can find there
[03:19] <stef_ubu_epia> .... hmmm... ok, i'll investigate that further after a meal :-()  Many thanks up to here , we'll have a good addendum to the howto when i figured this one out
[03:19] <hmpedersen> hmm.. i -am- going to miss photoshop, though..
[03:19] <drazq> mustard5: allright, thanks:)
[03:19] <esj> I should figure out how to organize it better so that it's easier to package
[03:20] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: yep, i bet. almost feel like installing breezy fresh and follow my own guide again. but i'm lazy now that it works for me
[03:20] <DuXia> hmm..
[03:20] <hmpedersen> jowi, ur guide?
[03:20] <tRSS> hey guys, can I export my pst to evolution?
[03:20] <Jowi> hmpedersen: yeah
[03:20] <mustard5> drazq, would that come under the category of wireless usb adaptor?
[03:21] <hmpedersen> jowi, link?
[03:21] <DuXia> esj, if i wanna test telnet to port 25, wat host to use?
[03:21] <Jowi> hmpedersen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ViaEpiaDriHowto
[03:21] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: that's basically what i did... an u did ur share of work in writing the howto, so it#s fair that someone else is debugging it
[03:21] <hawarit> i installed postgresql with : apt-get install postgresql-8.0; after this psql -d template1 works, but psql -h localhost -d tempalte1 fails (psql: FATAL:  could not open file "/usr/local/pgsql/data/global/1262": No such file or directory)
[03:21] <esj> DuXia: you need to have your local host recognizable to DNS.  You can do this usually through your hosts file
[03:21] <tRSS> guys can I export my exchange pst to evolution?
[03:21] <hawarit> how do i let it look at the correct data directory?
[03:22] <esj> another alternative would be to define your internal network as a valid source for relaying e-mail
[03:22] <drazq> mustard5: I guess so :)
[03:22] <mustard5> drazq, I've looked over this link...it has wireless usb adapters at the bottom, but I dont see your hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[03:22] <esj> then you can try sending mail externally.
[03:22] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: tell you what, i have some free space on the disk. while you eat i will have a go to see. i still wont enable framebuffer though :)
[03:22] <esj> But I seriously think you want to go internal host to an internal host for source and destination addresses.
[03:22] <mustard5> drazq, that doesnt mean its not supported..just not documented as supported :)
[03:22] <stef_ubu_epia> Jowi: I will compile a new kernel with ur config (adapted to my needs) and have lunch then
[03:23] <esj> So tasked to make sure that host can find you then try the mail path
[03:23] <stef_ubu_epia> ...while gcc is having code-lunch
[03:23] <DuXia> err..
[03:23] <mustard5> drazq, perhaps if you get it going you might be inclined to document your journey in the wiki ;)
[03:23] <Jowi> stef_ubu_epia: ok, logging off and trying to find my breezy disk. c u in an hour or two
[03:23] <stef_ubu_epia> Cu then :-)
[03:23] <Jowi> bbl guys
[03:23] <DuXia> i have updated my hosts file
[03:23] <DuXia> so which host to ehlo to?
[03:23] <DuXia> when i telnet?
[03:24] <esj> what is the domain name of that host?
[03:24] <mustard5> drazq, there are a number of links on that page too, that might be useful to you.
[03:24] <esj> (two-minute warning, I need to go fix breakfast and leave for an appointment)
[03:24] <drazq> mustard5: Ok, I'll keep trying .. and I'll be sure to add info to the wiki if I get it working :)
[03:24] <DuXia> i am telneting myself
[03:24] <DuXia> telnet localhost 25
[03:25] <esj> no.  That machine must have a domain name is associated with
[03:25] <DuXia> then what do i put it the ehlo command?
[03:25] <mustard5> drazq, k :)
[03:25] <esj> so that it can know what address it sends out e-mail as
[03:25] <DuXia> ya. my domain name is 3sedan.com
[03:25] <esj> for example, my host is  mail.harvee.org
[03:25] <DuXia> so i telnet 3sedan.com?
[03:25] <esj> type this
[03:26] <esj> telnet localhost 25
[03:26] <esj> ehlo junk
[03:26] <DuXia> then?
[03:26] <tRSS> helllooooooo? can I import my exchange (outlook) pst to evolution?
[03:26] <redvelvet> i am using ubuntu on a laptop.  after the screensaver is on for awhile, the screen turns white.  Is there a way to get it to turn off?
[03:26] <esj> mail from: duxia@3sedan.com
[03:26] <DuXia> oh it works!
[03:27] <mustard5> redvelvet, system>>preferences>>screensaver?
[03:27] <esj> rcpt to: someonelse@3sedan.com
[03:27] <DuXia> wat is junk?
[03:27] <mustard5> redvelvet, I'm assuming you mean turn the screensaver off
[03:27] <esj> in the real world, junk is the domain name of the host contacting your mail server
[03:27] <redvelvet> mustard5, yes I wenr there, the settings appear to be correct.
[03:28] <esj> but quite frankly, it doesn't matter.  The text is just junk
[03:28] <esj> which is why I use junk
[03:28] <redvelvet> i want the screen to turn off after like 20 minutes of screensaver
[03:28] <redvelvet> instead it goes white, very bright
[03:28] <esj> anyway, my time is up.  But I need to leave but I think you are heading in the right direction
[03:29] <DuXia> quit
[03:29] <DuXia> oops.. wrong msg
[03:30] <hmpedersen> well.. Only a few more folders to backup, and windows goes poff.
[03:30] <hmpedersen> poof*
[03:30] <mustard5> redvelvet, hmmmm k..not sure about how to do that
[03:30] <redvelvet> mustard5, I have the prefrenses set to blank after 20 minutes, but going blank doesnt really go blank... its strange if I go to file, go blank it workss
[03:31] <mustard5> redvelvet, do laptops have any bios settings that control power to the screen?
[03:31] <redvelvet> hmm, not really sure.  i just got this for the purpose of seeing how fun it would be to have linux on a laptop. haha
[03:31] <hmpedersen> Most laptops do..
[03:32] <redvelvet> thanks guys, i  will check that out
[03:32] <hmpedersen> I disabled all the power management stuff.. Both in bios and in ubuntu..
[03:32] <mustard5> redvelvet, I dont have much idea myself..but I wondering whether that would create a clash of some kind
[03:32] <k31th> anyone use ispconfig ?
[03:33] <k31th> wats better RSA or DSA ?
[03:33] <redvelvet> yeah, idk.  I think the bios controls are something like, if the power is unplugged (battery) then go to these settings
[03:33] <suerrahotel> hello
[03:33] <mustard5> welcome suerrahotel
[03:34] <redvelvet> wonder where the controls are for a laptop... say if I close the laptop, it hibernates... i dont want it to do that.
[03:34] <suerrahotel> a/s/l
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> yay! almost have my mini ubuntu ready to put on compact flash for my WRAP board based access points!
[03:34] <mustard5> suerrahotel, this is a technical support channel ;)
[03:34] <redvelvet> hehe
[03:34] <suerrahotel> ok
[03:35] <suerrahotel> why is that when you play xbox 360 it freez
[03:35] <soundray> suerrahotel, because it's not running ubuntu.
[03:35] <suerrahotel> ok
[03:35] <hmpedersen> suerrahotel, i dont think thats the correct technical problems :)
[03:35] <redvelvet> hahah
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> that's a feature all microsoft products have.
[03:35] <suerrahotel> well im a ps2 guy
[03:35] <redvelvet> its to give the users a break
[03:36] <suerrahotel> well xbox 360 sucks
[03:36] <hmpedersen> suerrahotel, M$ have identified the problem, and have offered to give all users with defect x360 a new console...
[03:36] <mustard5> suerrahotel, this is a support channel for linux..ubuntu linux in particular
[03:36] <redvelvet> i dont think it will suck once the new HD DVD comes out in them
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> redvelvet: no, it still will.
[03:37] <redvelvet> i hope that this blue-ray hits it big
[03:37] <DuXia> hi.. anyone knows whether dovecot can support virtual users?
[03:37] <redvelvet> leejunfan, it might, I have never played one.  I just like racing games.
[03:37] <hmpedersen> redvelvet, i hope they make a light-version that doesnt draw the power of 5 computers and 2 flatscreen tv's at the same time..
[03:38] <redvelvet> HAHAHHA
[03:38] <hmpedersen> Only then will i consider gettin one..
[03:38] <redvelvet> I have to iron my clothes and go to work, later fellas
[03:39] <hmpedersen> at the moment, my old xbox does what i need it to.. functioning as a good mediabox for tv, playin any video/music i need it to..
[03:39] <hmpedersen> oh..
[03:39] <hmpedersen> right.. done with the backup.. and have been so busy, ive forgotten to write breezy to a disc!
[03:41] <momo> thanks to the guy who sent me a link on the screen res problem. its fixed now!
[03:42] <mustard5> momo well done :)
[03:46] <bazx> how do i make mplayer-plugin the default for embedded wmv's ?, totem tries to play them but fails ?
[03:46] <funkyHat> bazx, right click on one, go to properties, and click on the open with tab at the top
[03:47] <bazx> funkyHat, thanks, but is there a way i can do this from the desktop, ?
[03:47] <funkyHat> select which program you want to open that file type with
[03:48] <Raskall-mob> I am going to install my new server tonight. :) I wonder if all config files from my old hoary server will work in my new breezy server. Only time will tell. :)
[03:48] <funkyHat> I don't think so bazx (the way I described does do the  file TYPE not just that particular file btw)
[03:49] <soundray> There are four different network environments where I use my laptop. What's the best way to autodetect and autoconfigure the settings according to the environment?
[03:49] <rudiz> what is the  right name for chapter FormatsRgistered in wiki
[03:49] <rudiz> ?
[03:49] <pappy-> congratulations, you retarded fuckups managed to fuck up my laptop with a fucking ignorant warty->hoary->breezy update.  Back to Debian where the shit is called shit at least.
[03:49] <Raskall-mob> soundray: install networkmanager
[03:50] <trappist> what a nice fella.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:50] <soundray> pappy-, you're welcome.
[03:50] <Raskall-mob> soundray: are all four environments wireless?
[03:50] <mustard5> hehehe
[03:50] <soundray> Raskall, no, only one of them.
[03:51] <Raskall-mob> soundray: ok. so why do you need different setup for the three cabled locations?
[03:51] <Raskall-mob> soundray: plug in, get dhcp-lease, start working.
[03:52] <mustard5> rudiz, I'm not sure what you are after
[03:52] <soundray> Raskall-mob, one is static IP (work), one DHCP (home) and one is no-net (on the train).
[03:52] <soundray> Raskall-mob, the fourth is wireless DHCP.
[03:53] <Raskall-mob> soundray: take a look at network manager (sudo apt-cache show network-manager). If that's the same as NetworkManager in Fedora, it's just what you're looking for I think
[03:54] <Raskall-mob> soundray: it's in Universe, btw
[03:54] <soundray> Raskall-mob, thanks, I just installed it.
[03:55] <Raskall-mob> soundray: the network setup tool in breezy actually has "locations" functionality, but I have no idea how to set it up
[03:55] <rudiz> imustard5, i need the wiki instructions for installing some apps
[03:56] <Raskall-mob> I juste have different setups in /etc/network/interfaces that I comment/uncomment as needed and then does ifdown/ifup on the interface
[03:56] <rudiz> mustard5, wiki.ubuntu.com/Formats....
[03:56] <mochabyte> is it possible to install a gtk theme engine without root acess?
[03:56] <blitznl> I want to build some app but get a "X11/extensions/Print.h : No such file or dir.." any idea which package provides this?
[03:56] <trappist> Raskall-mob: check out the 'whereami' package.
[03:57] <mustard5> rudiz, like restrictedformats?
[03:57] <rudiz> y
[03:57] <rudiz> thnx
[03:57] <soundray> Raskall-mob, I've tried locations, it never seems to do what I expect. Also, it's not automatic.
[03:57] <trappist> *cough* whereami
[03:58] <soundray> trappist, thanks, I'll look at that too.
[03:58] <Raskall-mob> soundray: automatic is difficult to do, I think. Unless you can do something you can configure with grub. But then you'd have to boot every time you change locations
[03:58] <shanonx> how do you force a program to quit? .. like if it is freezing up
[03:59] <blitznl> sorry found it, libxp-dev
[03:59] <mochabyte> anyone know if its possible to install a gtk-engine w/o root?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> shanonx: open a terminal and type  killall <programname>
[04:00] <linkd> i dont think so
[04:00] <linkd> its a system change :/
[04:00] <mochabyte> doh
[04:00] <linkd> shanonx: kill -9 PID
[04:00] <shanonx> thanks Thoreauputic
[04:00] <Raskall-mob> whereami looks cool
[04:00] <thoreauputic> shanonx: no worries :)
[04:00] <shanonx> whats that kill -9 do?
[04:01] <linkd> blah i didnt see thoreauputic's reply
[04:01] <linkd> it kills it properly
[04:01] <thoreauputic> shanonx: kill -9 is a "no second chance" kill ;)
[04:01] <linkd> sorta
[04:01] <Raskall-mob> soundray: but why is the train no-net? ;) I am online 3 hours on the train every day
[04:01] <linkd> what he said ^
[04:01] <thoreauputic> linkd: actually kill -9 is a last resort
[04:01] <soundray> Raskall-mob, whenever I boot in a new location, I have trouble with gnome-session. So I login on a text console, run a script to exchange /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf... annoying.
[04:01] <linkd> thoreauputic: yes i know how signals work
[04:01] <thoreauputic> linkd: OK :)
[04:02] <jono> anyone know if there will be a 2.6.12 release for breezy?
[04:02] <soundray> Raskall-mob, on-train-line?
[04:02] <Raskall-mob> soundray: enter your hostname as an alias to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts
[04:02] <Raskall-mob> soundray: then your hostname is always resolvable
[04:03] <Ng> jono: it's running 2.6.12 already
[04:03] <soundray> Raskall-mob, I just assumed that it was...
[04:03] <Raskall-mob> soundray: and gnome-session will not have problems. I alternate between work (cabled), train (gprs/edge) and home (wlan) without any trouble with gnome-session
[04:03] <jono> Ng, oh shit, so it is
[04:03] <Ng> jono: slick ;)
[04:03] <jono> Ng, trying to get a dvb card working, y'see
[04:04] <soundray> Raskall-mob, how do you connect to GPRS, via a phone or PCMCIA card?
[04:04] <hmpedersen> right.. ununtu is installing on my pc now :)
[04:04] <hmpedersen> Finally
[04:04] <Raskall-mob> soundray: phone. bluetooth. So I just keep my phone in my pocket and dial.
[04:04] <thoreauputic> jono: loved your Jeff Waugh vid, mate ;)
[04:04] <Ng> jono: cool, which one?
[04:04] <Raskall-mob> soundray: use the gnome-ppp for dialing.
[04:04] <hmpedersen> no more Bills on that computer :D
[04:04] <Ng> jono: I just set up a hauppauge nova-t a couple of weeks ago, it rocks :)
[04:05] <jono> Ng, is that the connexant chip one?
[04:05] <Ng> jono: yes
[04:05] <jono> Ng, woo! what did you do to get it working
[04:06] <mod> kak ?
[04:06] <mod> how are you ?
[04:06] <mod> slt !
[04:07] <soundray> Raskall-mob, back in a few minutes...
[04:07] <Ng> jono: well the kernel as-is seemed to include enough drivers to get it going, so I rebuilt vdr and xine packages from http://www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk/progs.sid.html
[04:07] <abarbaccia_> hey is there any command to execute from the command line that just maximizes a window - like if i have an instance of xchat running and i click the icon it just maximizes the window
[04:07] <Ng> jono: although you may be going for mythtv or something
[04:07] <Ng> jono: snag the dvb-utils package, you can use the scan and dvbstream tools in that to get a channel list and try and grab an mpeg stream
[04:09] <jono> Ng, I am using mythtv - how do I use scan to search for my signal?
[04:09] <chasnam> hello, cout somebody help me with the following eclipse problem : I just installed ubuntu en the eclipse platform, and when I go to my Java preferences and I click on Compilers I get the following error....Plug-in org.eclipse.jdt.ui was unable to load class org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.preferences.CompliancePreferencePage.
[04:09] <chasnam> ... And I'm also unable to start a new Java Project.. Java version is now 1.4.2.. I just installed ubuntu today.. Any idea's ? Thanks in Advance
[04:10] <Ng> jono: /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/README.scan
[04:10] <Ng> ;)
[04:10] <Ng> basically you just give it the file for the transmitter you're using and away it goes
[04:10] <hmpedersen> mythtv?
[04:11] <stef_ubu_epia> 
[04:11] <jono> Ng, I get main:1882: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 19 No such device
[04:11] <Ng> jono: is there anything in /dev/dvb?
[04:12] <Ng> maybe you have a slightly different hardware version and do need a newer kernel or something
[04:12] <jono> yep adapter0 through 3
[04:12] <j2daosh> whats up people?
[04:13] <e-head> whaz up sucker ?
[04:13] <stef_ubu_epia> jono: does ur card need firmware at boottime and is the proper firmware file in place (usr/lib/hotplug/firmware)
[04:13] <j2daosh> !ubotu tell me about installing a webcam
[04:13] <e-head> :)
[04:13] <j2daosh> not a whole lot
[04:13] <j2daosh> just trying to figure this o/s out
[04:13] <jono> stef_ubu_epia, havent done anything with firmware
[04:13] <e-head> what's your question ?
[04:13] <e-head> installing a webcam ?
[04:13] <j2daosh> lol
[04:13] <fmasi> HI can some one tel me the name of a god grafic FPT client becouse gftp is alwas crashing
[04:13] <j2daosh> yeah basically
[04:13] <tRSS> Guys, i need help badly. I have configured my evolution for our win2k3 exchange server. everything is working like a charm, except for the fact that it won't load the address book from excahgne server?!
[04:13] <tRSS> any help would be appreciated!
[04:13] <j2daosh> am i supposed to mount it?
[04:13] <e-head> j2daosh: I've never done that.
[04:14] <j2daosh> lol why cant it just detect plug and play and set it up lol
[04:14] <e-head> It is probably some sort of kernel module driver or something.
[04:14] <e-head> j2daosh: ha !  not on linux.  everything is a little bit painful, but good for you.
[04:14] <j2daosh> lol good for me? lol not yet... but im trying
[04:15] <e-head> Hey people, I have a question.
[04:15] <jono> hmmm
[04:15] <e-head> When I do a "apt-get update", or try to install via an "apt-get install", it complains about a GPG key.
[04:15] <e-head> I get this message:
[04:15] <j2daosh> i managed to get the sound working... my ntfs drives are read and write now... and i can play mp3's... i just need to get ssh working, webcam installed, and more decoders for movie files... oh and get firefox off my box and just use mozilla
[04:15] <e-head> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:16] <jono> Ng, the perms on /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 is crw-rw---- - is that right?
[04:16] <e-head> j2daosh: you're doing pretty good then.
[04:16] <e-head> j2daosh: are you using that captive ntfs driver ?
[04:16] <j2daosh> well ive only had this os for about 6 days now...
[04:16] <hmpedersen> ahh.. ubuntu booting on pc for the first time :)
[04:16] <e-head> even my ntfs drives are only read.
[04:16] <hmpedersen> Beautiful sight :D
[04:16] <Ng> jono: depends which user you ran scan as I guess
[04:16] <j2daosh> really?
[04:16] <Ng> jono: just use sudo for now
[04:16] <j2daosh> dont know why i can do it then...
[04:16] <e-head> Anybody got any clues to why my package/apt keys from some sources are screwed up ?
[04:17] <Amaranth> !gpg
[04:17] <soundray> Raskall, still here?
[04:17] <ubotu> [gpg]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[04:17] <hmpedersen> now if it wasnt so slow.. (due to the motherboard/hdd incompatibility issues...)
[04:17] <Amaranth> bah
[04:17] <Amaranth> !gpgerr
[04:17] <ubotu> somebody said gpgerr was a GPG-related error that sometimes occur when accessing the Ubuntu archives; it can usually be solved by typing "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*" (without the quotes!) in a terminal
[04:17] <redguy|work> which one is better: to have a dvd recorder as "slave" with a hdd on ide0 with a 80 wire cable, or as "master" on ide1 with a 40 wire cable and no hard disk?
[04:17] <n9uib> any video card guru's here ?
[04:17] <e-head> thanks ubotu.
[04:17] <j2daosh> redguy... no hard drive on opitcal cable
[04:18] <jono> Ng, no luck as sudo
[04:18] <n9uib> got a borked system and dont know how to fix it
[04:18] <j2daosh> and that doesn't matter what o/s ur using
[04:18] <Ng> jono: hrm, offhand I'm not sure, I'm sort of at work at the moment, so I don't have my notes to hand of what I did
[04:18] <redguy|work> j2daosh: you sure? notice the difference in cables as well
[04:18] <e-head> ubotu: I take it that is the location of the master package lists on the computer ?  Just delete them all and let apt-get update download new ones ?
[04:18] <ubotu> e-head: I think you lost me on that one
[04:19] <jono> Ng, /var/log/messages seems to suggest cx88xx: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
[04:19] <Amaranth> e-head: ubotu is a bot :)
[04:19] <Amaranth> e-head: but yeah
[04:19] <e-head> ohh !  ha !
[04:19] <e-head> thanks Amaranth.
[04:19] <Ng> jono: erk
[04:19] <xored> JA ICH CHEATE UND ?
[04:19] <redguy|work> !de
[04:19] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:19] <redguy|work> ?
[04:19] <j2daosh> its just a rule of thumb red
[04:20] <j2daosh> something to do with the mobo
[04:20] <e-head> 2.6.11 is the most recent kernel ?
[04:20] <n9uib> anyone ????
[04:20] <soundray> !anyone
[04:20] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:21] <soundray> n9uib, what's the problem?
[04:22] <llamuh> Anyone feel like helping a somewhat noob get his Orinoco Gold wifi card working on breezy? ;)
[04:22] <n9uib> well, i installed a geforce fx5500 in my dell 2350... and not when i try boot ubuntu, i get a kernal panic
[04:22] <n9uib> not syncing- killing init...... and it stalls at hotplug at that point
[04:23] <soundray> n9uib, can you boot the rescue kernel?
[04:23] <n9uib> i had the system working with the intergrated card
[04:23] <n9uib> ummmmmm.....   recovery mode ????
[04:23] <soundray> n9uib, ummmm, yes.
[04:23] <superneo> does ubuntu have the proper drivers for my audigy soundcard ??
[04:23] <n9uib> still does the same thing
[04:24] <soundray> n9uib, can you enter the BIOS setup?
[04:24] <sethk> n9uib, try adding vga=ask to the kernel boot line
[04:24] <Ng> jono: I think http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html is the guide I used to get a channel list
[04:24] <n9uib> yeah, i can get inot the bois
[04:24] <n9uib> well, i am in winders now
[04:24] <trappist> superneo: yes
[04:25] <eksajm> why wont adept accept my root password?
[04:25] <soundray> n9uib, note sethk's advice. Also check the BIOS to see if you can switch the video default between integrated and add-on card.
[04:25] <superneo> is there a way to use the creative proggys on ubuntu then trappist ?
[04:25] <eksajm> do i have to be in certain group?
[04:26] <superneo> creative playcentre
[04:26] <n9uib> well, i can use the intregated card... this is a add on that i ust installed about 1 1/2 weeks ago
[04:26] <trappist> superneo: they might work in wine, but the drivers are not creative drivers.
[04:26] <sethk> n9uib, it's possible you have to replace the video driver in the initrd file
[04:27] <soundray> n9uib, did Ubuntu ever boot with the add-on in place?
[04:27] <llamuh> i tried loading the XP drivers that i obtained from Agere for the orinoco gold using ndiswrapper but it claims 'No Vendor' for the INF.  should i just try to find some other windows driver elsewhere or what?  also, would a 2K driver work?  i have no experience with ndiswrapper.
[04:27] <n9uib> so, i need to  switch back over to the intragated card and do this and then see if it will boot
[04:28] <n9uib> no, it would never boot with the new add on
[04:28] <n9uib> see, how weird this is
[04:29] <n9uib> bee driving me batty
[04:29] <eksajm> when i use adept, does the user have to be in a certain group? cause when i try to do it with my user, adept wont accept the password?
[04:29] <Haroldo16> #ubuntu-pt
[04:29] <windmill> hi, encrypted dvds won't play back on my laptop but unencrypted ones will, what do I need to install?
[04:30] <windmill> I have got libdvdcss installed
[04:30] <trappist> how did you install it
[04:30] <hmpedersen> right.. now i see a grey screen with alot of text.. starting with call trace..
[04:30] <eksajm> when i use adept, does the user have to be in a certain group? cause when i try to do it with my user, adept wont accept the password!
[04:30] <windmill> apt-get intall libdvdcss2
[04:30] <trappist> windmill: try sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[04:30] <hmpedersen> oh..
[04:31] <llamuh> guess my question is too noobish.. or everyone is too busy heh
[04:31] <hmpedersen> will the i386 install if i have an amd 64 cpu?
[04:31] <soundray> n9uib, you may have to play with the settings in the BIOS, and possibly reset the configuration to exclude any conflicts.
[04:31] <soundray> hmpedersen, yes.
[04:31] <trappist> llamuh: sorry, I've never used ndiswrapper.  have you tried the linux native orinoco drivers?
[04:32] <hmpedersen> soundray, then this doesnt make any sence..  It installed fine.. No errors..
[04:32] <hmpedersen> But now it wont finish booting..
[04:32] <n9uib> sound:  thanks for the push in the right direction.... i have never had a kernal panic problem before.... this is all pretty new...lol
[04:32] <eksajm> anyone uses the adept package to install thigns?
[04:32] <hmpedersen> no.. it didnt finish installing..
[04:32] <windmill> trappist that downgraded it
[04:33] <hmpedersen> hmm.. configuring cupsys.. that didnt take more than a second on the laptop..
[04:33] <llamuh> trappist: no i havent because on the forums people acted like it was no problem to use the windows drivers for this card.  i have downloaded the linux drivers from agere but they dont seem to like the pcmcia "drivers" (for lack of a better word) that come with ubuntu.  i guess ill try the linux ones again and tell you the exact error
[04:33] <llamuh> thanks anyways..
[04:35] <norskfjord> hello
[04:35] <norskfjord> my apt-get is broken
[04:35] <norskfjord> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[04:35] <norskfjord> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:35] <cgnet> hello
[04:35] <eksajm> anyone uses the adept package to install thigns? i have a problem cause it wont accept the root passowrd eventhough it is correct
[04:35] <cgnet> may I ask you something?
[04:35] <norskfjord> when I do 'apt-get -f install' it still does not resolve the issue.
[04:35] <{anthrax}> anyone using fluxbox?
[04:35] <norskfjord> yes
[04:35] <cgnet> how can I increase the speed of my browser?
[04:36] <norskfjord> {anthrax}
[04:36] <{anthrax}> worth trying?
[04:36] <norskfjord> yes, it's excellent
[04:36] <norskfjord> and blackbox
[04:36] <norskfjord> I actually run blackbox
[04:36] <norskfjord> but it
[04:36] <{anthrax}> installation simple?
[04:36] <norskfjord> but it's very simaly
[04:36] <{anthrax}> ok
[04:36] <norskfjord> easy
[04:36] <{anthrax}> :D we like easy lol
[04:36] <norskfjord> sudo apt-get install blackbox
[04:36] <norskfjord> done
[04:36] <norskfjord> then look in the menu for blackbox
[04:37] <norskfjord> and it will start that wm
[04:37] <{anthrax}> k
[04:37] <eksajm> norskfjord, hwo do you choose which to run if you have fluxbox and balckbox installd?
[04:37] <MrFarts> anyone here know about envision monitors ?
[04:37] <eksajm> oh ;)
[04:37] <eksajm> srty ;)
[04:37] <norskfjord> what wm are you using now?
[04:37] <norskfjord> should be under window managers
[04:37] <{anthrax}> brb
[04:38] <eksajm> i have kde, but i was just wondering. pure intrest ;)
[04:38] <cgnet> how can I increase the speed of my browser?
[04:38] <_jason> cgnet, which browser would that be
[04:39] <cgnet> firefox 1.0.7
[04:39] <DJ_Necrogami> how do i find out what is running on port 80 because something is blocking my Web Server from starting
[04:39] <_jason> cgnet, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2523397
[04:40] <trappist> DJ_Necrogami: it's almost certainly your webserver
[04:40] <Kian> Hm. I chose to format my whole disk, and it set-up ekt3, but i got no question of making av swap-disk... Does it make swap itself?
[04:40] <DJ_Necrogami> trappist, its not runing
[04:40] <iGen> DJ_Necrogami: nmap yourself or check you're firewall
[04:40] <cgnet> I will check it now _jason
[04:40] <trappist> DJ_Necrogami: netstat -ntlp
[04:40] <DJ_Necrogami> ps aux | grep lighttpd shows nothing
[04:41] <soundray> norskfjord, I found an article that may have the answer to your apt problem.
[04:41] <soundray> norskfjord, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/1952217
[04:41] <DJ_Necrogami> nothing on 80
[04:41] <trappist> DJ_Necrogami: what error is lighttpd giving you
[04:41] <DJ_Necrogami> necrogami@serv1:~$ lighttpd -f /etc/lighttpd.conf
[04:41] <DJ_Necrogami> 2005-12-15 10:41:41: (network.c.265) can't bind to port 80 Permission denied
[04:42] <linuX|BowlingX> hi@all, i have 3 windows (ntfs) partitions and iam unable to mount them, even as I add the options "ro,user,auto" to fstab, any suggestions?
[04:42] <DJ_Necrogami> oh duh
[04:42] <DJ_Necrogami> retard me forgot i need root to run that
[04:42] <trappist> DJ_Necrogami: permission denied is a little weird.  if it's taken usually it'd say socket in use.  does fuser -v -n tcp 80 say anything?
[04:42] <rosen> does anyone know what port 137 is used for ?
[04:42] <DJ_Necrogami> i was running it as a user not root
[04:42] <trappist> oh wait I forgot that too :)
[04:43] <trappist> rosen: grep 137 /etc/services
[04:43] <gundu> hi
[04:43] <linuX|BowlingX> hi
[04:44] <nox_ghost> I wrote a script that compiles the newest 2.6.14.4 kernel. Someone wants to give it a try? http://ilunix.org/scripts/CompileKernel26144.sh
[04:44] <gundu> how can I find out what for a desktop-resolution my laptop supports ?
[04:44] <linuX|BowlingX> manual
[04:44] <rosen> trappist, huh ?
[04:44] <gundu> havent :(
[04:44] <gundu> lost it
[04:44] <gundu> :/
[04:44] <soundray> gundu, 1024x768
[04:44] <Ricker> hello
[04:44] <trappist> rosen: /etc/services is a fairly comprehensive list of what services run on what ports.  type 'grep 137 /etc/services' in a console to see what it says.
[04:45] <DJ_Necrogami> gundu, google!
[04:45] <soundray> gundu, it's a guess, but very likely.
[04:45] <gundu> hm ok
[04:45] <rosen> trappist, I get this return - bash: greb: command not found
[04:45] <DJ_Necrogami> gundu, http://linux-laptops.net
[04:45] <soundray> gundu, is this for setting up X?
[04:45] <trappist> rosen: grep.
[04:45] <rosen> lol
[04:45] <rosen> sorrrry
[04:46] <DJ_Necrogami> gundu, http://www.linux-laptop.net/ -s
[04:46] <DJ_Necrogami> i added a s in the last url
[04:46] <gundu> soundray yes, want to set my desktop resolution higher
[04:46] <soundray> !fixres
[04:46] <ubotu> somebody said fixres was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:46] <trappist> gundu: shoot for 1280x1024.  if that doesn't work, it's probably 1024x768
[04:47] <Ricker> when I create an appache website folder in my /var/www/ folder, do I need to set certain permissions in order for the users to execute scripts correctly?  I am trying to install wordpress and I have the wordpress folder in my /var/www/ folder and it's not working correctly.
[04:47] <Zambba> I've installed the minimal install of Ubuntu. Now I've heard about the Ubuntu Server which has "server-orientated kernel". How can I install that kernel-image to my home server and what benefit do I get if i do so?
[04:47] <soundray> gundu, do you have the diagonal size in inches?
[04:47] <gundu> trappist, DJ_Necrogami, soundray thats mine: http://rcswww.urz.tu-dresden.de/~s2890409/linux_maxdata_eco4500a.html
[04:47] <gundu> 15' ?
[04:47] <trappist> Ricker: what kind of scripts?  is it perl or what?
[04:48] <eksajm> how do i add support for synaptic in sudo?
[04:48] <trappist> eksajm: I don't understand your question.
[04:48] <Ricker> trappist, hmm I'm not sure what wordpress is written in to be honest.
[04:48] <_jason> eksajm, what do you mean
[04:48] <DJ_Necrogami>  gundu, i'd go with 1024x768
[04:48] <gundu> yes i already have this
[04:48] <Ricker> I'm thinking it's php
[04:48] <_jason> gundu, how old is the laptop
[04:48] <eksajm> trappist, well when i try to start synaptic it wont accept the correct rpot password. just says it is wrong
[04:48] <eksajm> but its not
[04:49] <gundu> but for me the resolution is too small :/
[04:49] <trappist> Ricker: unless it's php it's probably a cgi, in which case you need to put it in /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[04:49] <gundu> _jason, about half a year
[04:49] <_jason> eksajm, are you using your root password?
[04:49] <DJ_Necrogami> _jason, Processor:  	AMD Turion64 3000 (1.6 GHz, ML30, 35W)
[04:49] <eksajm> _jason, yeah? should i not?
[04:49] <_jason> eksajm, arg, i meant 'user' apssword
[04:49] <trappist> eksajm: you're giving it the root password, or your password?
[04:49] <bipolar> eksajm: it's not asking for a root password. it's asking for yours
[04:49] <DRAGON_Ultra> is your cap lock on?
[04:49] <eksajm> rioot password
[04:49] <DJ_Necrogami> _jason, his laptop isnt old at all
[04:49] <linuX|BowlingX> no one knows how to access a ntfs partition as a user?
[04:49] <eksajm> oh!
[04:49] <_jason> DJ_Necrogami, indeed
[04:49] <pesco> Waah, there is no uqm-0.4.0 in multiverse! This is horrible! ;-)
[04:49] <eksajm> wtf? can i use synaptic on my own account?
[04:50] <iGen> no good :(
[04:50] <Ricker> trappist, ok so then I'll need to edit an apache config file to point to that folder in my /usr/lib/cgi-bin dir?
[04:50] <bipolar> eksajm: ubuntu has no root password by default.
[04:50] <soundray> gundu, what resolution are you using now?
[04:50] <eksajm> why is it then asking for a password?
[04:50] <linuX|BowlingX> still studied the wiki :D
[04:50] <_jason> ubotu, tell eksajm about sudo
[04:50] <bipolar> eksajm: look at the man page for sudo
[04:50] <trappist> linuX|BowlingX: add 'umask=000' and/or 'uid=1000' to the /etc/fstab line with your ntfs partition
[04:50] <eksajm> bipolar, yeah okeyt thanks..
[04:50] <trappist> Ricker: I haven't looked but I'm pretty sure it's already there as a ScriptAlias.  may just need to comment it out.
[04:50] <eksajm> be back later with more questions then ;)
[04:51] <windmill> my totem-xine doesn't want to use libdvdcss :((
[04:51] <gundu> soundray, 1024x786
[04:51] <gundu> sorry had givven you the wrong link, right is http://www.komputilo.org/~joostje/linux/maxdata/
[04:51] <iGen> eksajm, the sudo password is you're user password
[04:51] <linuX|BowlingX> ok, thanks
[04:51] <_jason> gundu, can't you just call your manufacture and find out the resolution?  Otherwise, just try the most common and see which one looks the best, that will be your native resolution :)
[04:51] <soundray> gundu, according to http://www.maxdata.de/news_press/Presseberichte/2005/03/21_notebook.html, that's all you will get from this laptop.
[04:51] <ofir> can rpm files can be opend in ubuntu ?
[04:52] <trappist> ofir: they can be converted to .debs with alien
[04:52] <iGen> gundu, should say on the back of the monitor
[04:52] <_jason> ofir, yes, but it is preferrable that you find an ubuntu package
[04:52] <Ricker> trappist.  ok cool.  the thing that i"m still frustrated with on linux is I NEVER know where to put what files.  Is there a quick & dirty white paper explaining where to put things in linux, and why?
[04:52] <_jason> ubotu, tell ofir about alien
[04:52] <anthrax> can anyone help with gdesklets?
[04:52] <ofir> ok
[04:52] <soundray> iGen, you clearly haven't followed the conversation.
[04:53] <SanderD> How dangerous is it to try out Dapper? Do I help the developers if I do that (and report bugs etc.)?
[04:53] <trappist> Ricker: there might be, but mostly it's something you just get a feel for.  the cgi-bin being in /usr/lib is a little new to me, but it's always outside the web tree.
[04:53] <Ricker> trappist:  I was afraid you were going to say that.  ;)
[04:53] <ofir> can wine work with ubutu ?
[04:53] <anthrax> yes
[04:53] <trappist> SanderD: it would help you be helpful, but if you don't feel very confident about being able to restore a busted system, don't do it.  it's unsupported and unstable.
[04:53] <trappist> ofir: yes
[04:54] <nox_ghost> SanderD, yeah, you can help the developers by reporting bugs. You can encouter problems that in order fix them you have to rewrite part of the code and recompile it to get it work.
[04:54] <gundu> maybe i should try it ..
[04:54] <pesco> Seriously though, I have no knowledge about the debian package system, but if it's not too complicated I want to help by turning an existing Debian deb into one for multiverse. What do I do?
[04:54] <gundu> whats the next resolution after 1024x786
[04:54] <jbroome> 1280.1024
[04:54] <jbroome> and it's 768
[04:54] <nox_ghost> guerby, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. you don't have to write the resolutions yourself.
[04:54] <ofir> thanks
[04:55] <SanderD> trappist: do you mean the OS can get busted, or can it break my computer (when I'm using wrong drivers or something like that)?
[04:55] <SanderD> nox_ghost: and if I can't really write code?
[04:55] <soundray> gundu, you will never go above the native resolution of your laptop, unless you want to use panning.
[04:55] <anthrax> i get this error when running ./configure on gdesklets.... checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[04:55] <nox_ghost> SanderD, So you will be stuck with a system that can't boot, for example.
[04:55] <balor> Are the special function keys on my laptop (for screen selection etc..) handled by the kernel or xorg?
[04:55] <pesco> balor: most probably neither.
[04:55] <Zoohouse> Why is it that when I want to uninstall programs like gnome-games that uninstalling those packages will also uninstall gonome-desktop ?????
[04:56] <SanderD> nox_ghost: okay, but then I could always reinstall ubuntu...
[04:56] <nox_ghost> anthrax, You don't have a perl module needed for this operation. Why don't you install gdesklets from the repos ?
[04:56] <windmill> oh no hang on it is trying to use libdvdread but it's failing saying :   libdvdread Invalid main menu IFO (VIDEO_TS.IFO).  why it that???#
[04:56] <anthrax> k
[04:56] <nox_ghost> SanderD, If you have the time and patience, do it.
[04:56] <tty54> can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US
[04:56] <Ricker> trapper: where do I look for the ScriptAlias reference that you mentioned?
[04:56] <soundray> Zoohouse, yes, but don't worry -- these are metapackages. If you remove gnome-desktop, you won't actually be removing software.
[04:56] <nox_ghost> anthrax, try this sources.list file: http://ilunix.org/scripts/related-files/sources.list
[04:57] <nox_ghost> anthrax, it has gdesklets and much more on it.
[04:57] <Zoohouse> soundray, I did not understand
[04:57] <soundray> Zoohouse, gnome-desktop is a package that contains no software of its own.
[04:57] <ofir> is there a linux that open both rpm and deb ?
[04:58] <imnes> In 5.10, if I create a gnome main menu (not menu bar) and set a custom icon for it, it displays a black arrow Y pixels from the left side of the image.  Any way to disable drawing that?
[04:58] <linkd> not that i know of
[04:58] <trappist> SanderD: it's not likely to damage your hardware.  it's really not very likely to be unbootable, but it's fairly likely, for example, that X will fail to start.
[04:58] <Amaranth> ofir: nope
[04:58] <Amaranth> ofir: they use incompatible backends
[04:58] <Ricker> trappist: where do I look for the ScriptAlias that you mentioned?
[04:58] <Zoohouse> so if I remove kbluetooth it says it will untinsall kubuntu-desktop but my kde desktop will stay put?
[04:58] <anthrax> ill try it
[04:58] <bipolar> I just switched to kubuntu using apt, its there a way I can remove the gnome stuff without apt-get removing package by package?
[04:58] <soundray> Zoohouse, it just depends on other packages, meaning that if you install it, you will have all the luxuries of a desktop system, including somewhat silly games.
[04:58] <SanderD> trappist: okay, I've already had many problems of that kind, so I think I can handle that :-)
[04:58] <tty54> can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US
[04:59] <trappist> SanderD: awesome, go for it :)
[04:59] <tty54> can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US
[04:59] <Zoohouse> soundray, i want KDE but not all the stuff that it comes with. Is that another package other then kubuntu?
[04:59] <trappist> tty54: quit repeating yourself.  there are many kinds of proxies.  try being more specific.
[05:00] <tty54> can someone send me the ip of a proxy in the US, all i need is to get to sourceforge, anything will work
[05:00] <aTypical> Morning
[05:00] <_jason> tty54, if you googled for a proxy in the US you'd probably have your answer by now
[05:00] <Amaranth> tty54: most open proxies are banned from sites like that
[05:01] <soundray> Zoohouse, check out 'apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop'. From that list, install what you need.
[05:01] <bipolar> tty54: why do you need a proxy to get to sf?
[05:01] <imnes> tty54: http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html
[05:01] <imnes> accoding to google
[05:01] <tty54> bipolar: the site is blocked
[05:01] <tty54> ALL SITES ARE BLOCKED AT MY SCHOOL THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PROXIES
[05:01] <DjLinX> Hello i was wondering if USB loads b4 or after networking when u first start up ur comp
[05:01] <hmpedersen> No.. Ubuntu will -not. install on my computer..
[05:02] <_jason> tty54, use google's translate feature, it will act as a proxy
[05:02] <bipolar> tty54: where are you that it's being blocked? A school in the US?
[05:02] <Zoohouse> soundray, but I still want to run KDE as my desktop
[05:02] <ofir> i tried slick the freesusse and it was very cool - very simple to use
[05:02] <Zoohouse> im not following along here...
[05:02] <Amaranth> tty54: Please don't yell.
[05:02] <hmpedersen> Ive removed everything thats not essential for installing..
[05:02] <soundray> Zoohouse, advice is the same.
[05:02] <imnes> 68.121.109.118   66.162.34.5
[05:02] <dion> Hi all
[05:02] <imnes> I dunno if those work they're just on the list
[05:03] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Do you know who removed my +J?
[05:03] <dion> It's seems i can't open alot of programs?!
[05:03] <tty54> imnes: port numbers?
[05:03] <eksajm> _jason, "the conversation with su failed"
[05:03] <Zoohouse> kinda sucks not being able to just uninstall things without getting rid of kde...
[05:03] <_jason> tty54, try: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sourceforge.net&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
[05:03] <dion> Is that a common bug?
[05:03] <Kian> Hm. Is it possible to get APT to search other places on the net? If i do apt-get install apache it does not find it.
[05:03] <Zoohouse> or gnome for that matter
[05:03] <imnes> 8080 on the first, 80 on the second
[05:03] <Amaranth> dion: nope
[05:03] <Amaranth> dion: can you open a terminal?
[05:03] <trappist> Zoohouse: you can uninstall stuff without getting rid of kde.
[05:03] <dion> Yeah
[05:03] <soundray> Zoohouse, you still haven't followed what I explained.
[05:03] <dion> I can open a termenal and run apt-get
[05:04] <Yogarine> howdy
[05:04] <Zoohouse> soundray, i don't understand.
[05:04] <_jason> eksajm, what were you trying to do?
[05:04] <nickrud> Zoohouse, if kubuntu-desktop gets removed, that will not remove the rest of kde
[05:04] <dion> but updating wont work via synatep
[05:04] <Zoohouse> oh ok
[05:04] <Zoohouse> ah ok :)
[05:04] <Amaranth> dion: synaptic won't start?
[05:04] <eksajm> adept and synaptic
[05:04] <dion> Nope
[05:04] <imnes> Does anybody know which source package contains the code for drawing the gnome panel menus?
[05:04] <Amaranth> dion: open a terminal and run 'gksudo synaptic'
[05:04] <eksajm> found out that sudo password is not root pass but it still doesnt worl _jason
[05:04] <dion> K
[05:04] <thoreauputic> Zoohouse: the package is actually just a list of dependencies, basically
[05:04] <Amaranth> dion: i want to see what the output is if it fails again
[05:04] <Yogarine> could someone tell me what is the best way to upgrade my Breezy to the Drake WIP?
[05:05] <_jason> eksajm, is this a regular install?
[05:05] <dion> Nothing
[05:05] <Zoohouse> brb
[05:05] <eksajm> kubunto?
[05:05] <tty54> gentoo is the shit
[05:05] <trappist> Yogarine: put drake sources in sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade.
[05:05] <eksajm> can it be different?
[05:05] <tty54> whats better, gentoo or ubuntu
[05:05] <dion> Just Nothing happes its ask a password I enter it And then Nothing happens
[05:05] <Amaranth> Yogarine: You want an expensive doorstop?
[05:05] <Amaranth> Yogarine: dapper is not very usable right now
[05:05] <trappist> tty54: you're asking in the wrong place.
[05:05] <Yogarine> trappist: that all? cool :P
[05:05] <soundray> tty54, the question is pointless.
[05:05] <Yogarine> amaranth: is that so?
[05:05] <tty54> why is it pointless
[05:05] <DjLinX> Hello i was wondering if i could get my wireless usb device to boot b4 my network
[05:06] <soundray> tty54, because it depends on what you need.
[05:06] <trappist> tty54: it's a matter of preference, and most people here probably prefer ubuntu.
[05:06] <_jason> eksajm, have you ever successfully sudo'd before?
[05:06] <eksajm> no
[05:06] <Amaranth> tty54: People are here because they like ubuntu, what do you think they will answer? :)
[05:06] <iGen> tty54: netbsd
[05:06] <tty54> yeah, uh, west side
[05:06] <tty54> fuck biggie
[05:06] <eksajm> just changed to ubuntu from gentoo
[05:06] <eksajm> _jason, ^
[05:06] <_jason> eksajm, is your current user, the first user you created?
[05:06] <Amaranth> hi thoreauputic :)
[05:06] <tty54> west side till we die!
[05:06] <tty54> bitches
[05:06] <eksajm> _jason,  yes
[05:06] <trappist> freak.
[05:06] <dion> Darn
[05:06] <Amaranth> tty54: Please don't swear.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> tty54: all off-topic discussion -->> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:06] <tty54> first off, fuck yo bitch in the click u clan
[05:06] <tty54> west side
[05:06] <tty54> wen we die
[05:06] <tty54> niggas get we can
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: hi :)
[05:07] <trappist> thanks Amaranth
[05:07] <dion> :d
[05:07] <ofir> i have download xwine what do i do next ?
[05:07] <dion> Still my alot of the programs dont work :P :(
[05:07] <_jason> eksajm, he should have sudo priveleges, try 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal.  Use your user password.  And see if it says hi.
[05:07] <tty54> WHATS BETTER GENTOO OR UBUNTU
[05:07] <ofir> can i download ie and run it ?
[05:07] <_jason> tty54, go away
[05:07] <soundray> tty54 grow up, then ask again.
[05:07] <tty54> ANY NIGGAS IN THE HOUSE
[05:08] <dion> haha such a stupid kid
[05:08] <ofir> freesusse "slicks" is very cool
[05:08] <trappist> I hate people who suck.
[05:08] <gundu_> sorry was disconnected
[05:08] <amparo_pzzi> how can i install vmware-tools
[05:08] <mahangu> wierd man
[05:08] <Amaranth> Guys, be nice.
[05:08] <mahangu> Amaranth, :)
[05:08] <saik0> how would I prepend zeros to a sting in bash until it's a certain length?
[05:08] <gundu_> is there andy way to test how high i can go with my resolution ?
[05:08] <eksajm> _jason,  no it doesnt. its just blank
[05:08] <ardchoille> Amaranth: hehe, I just kick/banned him from ##gnome too
[05:09] <dion> Amarath Do you know what it is? Just some programs in Gnome wont load
[05:09] <_jason> eksajm, just blank?  it didn't say incorrect password?
[05:09] <ermo> was it a bot?
[05:09] <Amaranth> dion: what was the error?
[05:09] <nickrud> gundu, if you look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there's a list of resolutions that your system supports, along with a bunch it doesen't
[05:09] <dion> None
[05:09] <stef_ubu_epia> !bot
[05:09] <eksajm> _jason, no just didnt say anything
[05:09] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[05:09] <superneo> i have ubuntu on a p3 450 with 384Mb of ram ...are there any proggys to tweak or accelerate the performance ?
[05:09] <gundu_> does anyone knows an alternative for "gedit" ? because he brakes every line when it had reached the end and thats not very clear
[05:09] <amparo_pzzi> someone???????????
[05:09] <eksajm> _jason, the password was correct
[05:09] <Amaranth> superneo: Not really, but you might like xubuntu better.
[05:10] <eksajm> Dec 15 17:08:04 localhost sudo: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=pts/1 ruser= rhost=  user=simon
[05:10] <eksajm> _jason, ^
[05:10] <Amaranth> gundu_: Disable line wrapping in the gedit preferences
[05:10] <eksajm> thats tha auth.log
[05:10] <gundu_> have not found it, already searched..
[05:10] <oudeis> hi, where do i change input language in ububtu?
[05:10] <superneo> xubuntu ?
[05:10] <Amaranth> dion: gksudo synaptic didn't output anything at all?
[05:10] <dion> I get a error
[05:10] <Amaranth> dion: that's what i wanted to see
[05:10] <dion> Amaranth: I typed it wrong (Shame me)
[05:10] <gundu_> ah
[05:10] <dion> Ok the error is
[05:10] <gundu_> sorry
[05:10] <_jason> eksajm, groups | grep admin, return anything?
[05:10] <dion> (synaptic:9841): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:10] <dion> (synaptic:9841): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:10] <gundu_> have found it now, thx
[05:11] <Amaranth> eek
[05:11] <amparo_pzzi> wzsaq
[05:11] <dion> It will load know but only when i start it manually in the terminal
[05:11] <Amaranth> dion: that's odd..
[05:11] <imnes> Is there a developers channel for ubuntu?
[05:11] <dion> If I try to open updates It wont open
[05:11] <eksajm> _jason, yeah
[05:11] <shadewind|laptop> anyone who knows why the ubuntu installation fails when installing the linux-386 package?
[05:11] <eksajm> _jason, simon and some more
[05:11] <Amaranth> dion: you're starting it from the terminal the exact same same it starts from the menu
[05:11] <mahangu> shadewind|laptop, i had some problems with the servers on that package
[05:12] <Amaranth> imnes: What do you need?
[05:12] <dion> Oh weird
[05:12] <mahangu> shadewind|laptop, are you using net install?
[05:12] <shadewind|laptop> mahangu: nope, Ubuntu Server 5.10 install CD
[05:12] <eksajm> _jason,  now it doesnt even ask for a password when i try sudo echo..
[05:12] <imnes> Amaranth: working on a patch I'm not sure how to use the debian packaging tools to build / install the modified sources
[05:12] <oudeis> can someone help? i cant' find how to switch input languages
[05:12] <mahangu> shadewind|laptop, have you checked the md5sum of the CD
[05:12] <ofir> how to run wine/xwine ?
[05:12] <mahangu> could be a bad burn
[05:12] <imnes> Amaranth: used apt-get source gnome-panel, changed some code, now I want to build and test it.
[05:13] <Amaranth> imnes: that's probably a question for #ubuntu-motu
[05:13] <ofir> just downloading an exe file ?
[05:13] <imnes> Okay, thanks
[05:13] <stef_ubu_epia> ofir: just start w(h)ining ;-D
[05:13] <_jason> eksajm, you type 'sudo echo hi' and nothing happens at all?  The only way it won't ask for a password is if you entered it correctly, it saves it for some time (I think this is the only way)
[05:13] <eksajm> _jason, okey but why doesnt it echo hi?
[05:13] <eksajm> nothing apperas
[05:14] <ofir> didnt understand
[05:15] <shadewind|laptop> mahangu: the md5 sum is fine
[05:15] <_jason> eksajm, I don't know... that's strange
[05:15] <dion> Well i must go and buy some fish
[05:15] <stef_ubu_epia> ofir: forget ist, it doesn't have any benefit for you... if u still want to waste time you have to apt-get install wine first
[05:15] <_jason> eksajm, sudo synaptic, does that run?
[05:16] <mahangu> shadewind|laptop, then i dunno, sorry
[05:16] <dion> Many people have problem with synaptic i see
[05:16] <dion> wow
[05:16] <eksajm> _jason,  no nothing happands
[05:16] <ofir> i have installed xwine - what do i do next
[05:16] <_jason> eksajm, sudo -K, and try again
[05:16] <shadewind|laptop> anyone else who knows why ubuntu server install fails on package linux-386? seems to be a common problem
[05:16] <stef_ubu_epia> get a terminal an type wine or xwine
[05:17] <ofir> my mother dont like the linux since she cant see her bank acount in firefox and opera
[05:17] <eksajm> _jason,  simon is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:17] <eksajm> never got that before
[05:17] <eksajm> first time
[05:17] <_jason> eksajm, sudo cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin
[05:17] <LaptopZZ> hey, I upgraded my kernel and I get a vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:17] <LaptopZZ> I booted from a CD, ran chroot
[05:17] <LaptopZZ> and installed the old kernel that worked from apt repo
[05:17] <LaptopZZ> still same problem
[05:18] <eksajm> _jason, it dosnt work since the user is not in sudores
[05:18] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: dapper?
[05:18] <LaptopZZ> I think my initrd or vmlinuz got trashed
[05:18] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: yah
[05:18] <_jason> eksajm, lol right
[05:18] <eksajm> _jason, as root it gives nothing
[05:18] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: dapper is very broken right now
[05:18] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: new kernel needs a new userland, old kernel doesn't work well with new userland
[05:18] <_jason> eksajm, get rid of the grep and see who is getting sudo priveleges
[05:18] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: but it sounds like your partition got trashed
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: its not, I mounted ir from another hd
[05:19] <eksajm> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[05:19] <eksajm> # User privilege specification
[05:19] <eksajm> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:19] <eksajm> thats all
[05:19] <eksajm> and a lots of comment
[05:19] <eksajm> s
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: I think I Just need to get my initrd back or something
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> it worked fine till I removed my old kernels
[05:19] <LaptopZZ> and installed only linux-image-k7-smp
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> it previously had -k7 and -386
[05:20] <_jason> eksajm, okay, add the following tow lines to the end:
[05:20] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: that looks like a grub error
[05:20] <hmpedersen> I'm gonna give install 20 more minutes before i kill it.. this time it stopped at libsdl1,2debian-oss
[05:20] <_jason> eksajm, # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: will a reinstall of grub get me running?
[05:20] <_jason> eksajm, %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:20] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: how can I tell grub to reinstate everything
[05:20] <_jason> eksajm, wait!
[05:20] <eksajm> _jason,
[05:20] <eksajm> what?
[05:20] <_jason> eksajm, use visudo to edit it
[05:21] <eksajm> i dont have sudo priveleges ;D
[05:21] <_jason> eksajm, just run visudo as root
[05:21] <eksajm> nano -w is that good enough
[05:21] <eksajm> kk
[05:21] <trappist> LaptopZZ: that sounds exactly right.  your initrd has your filesystem drivers and without it your kernel won't be able to mount your filesystems.
[05:21] <eksajm> _jason, in gentoo we have a group called wheel. which is the group that can su to root
[05:21] <eksajm> nothing like that in ubuntu?
[05:21] <DRK13> a
[05:22] <_jason> eksajm, not that I've seen, just admin to get sudo priveleges
[05:22] <LaptopZZ> trappist: yea makes sense, how can I get that back? I thought that would be included in the linux-image-xxxx
[05:22] <eksajm> _jason, okey
[05:22] <eksajm> well lets try it
[05:22] <DjLinX> wats the command to change permissions
[05:22] <eksajm> sudo echo hi?
[05:22] <trappist> LaptopZZ: I dunno, I wrestled with the same thing for some time before giving up.  I couldn't even get an initrd building the kernel myself.  you might try apt-get install --reinstall.
[05:22] <_jason> eksajm, sure
[05:23] <Ng> DjLinX: chmod
[05:23] <eksajm> _jason,  it doens show anything
[05:23] <_jason> eksajm, sudo -K and try again
[05:23] <eksajm> mm did ;/
[05:23] <eksajm> sudo synaptic didnt work either ;/
[05:23] <djib> is there a program to open sqlite databases ?
[05:23] <LaptopZZ> trappist: I'll give it a shot
[05:23] <hmpedersen> does ubuntu have problems with fx5200 chipset and sb live?
[05:24] <trappist> hmpedersen: never heard of fx5200 but sblive is supported.
[05:24] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: dpkg-reconfigure the kernel package
[05:24] <Kian> How do I change so I can se chars like    ?
[05:24] <Amaranth> LaptopZZ: it'll remake the initramfs
[05:24] <Amaranth> Kian: you should be able to already
[05:24] <dpupp> is /etc/apt/preferences suposed to be a blank file? im wanting to make sure i install the wineHQ version... and its telling me to add those lines...
[05:24] <hmpedersen> trappist, nvidia chipset for graphic cards..
[05:24] <jowi> hello all
[05:24] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: k I will do that
[05:24] <Amaranth> dpupp: it starts blank, yes
[05:24] <stef_ubu_epia> wb jowi
[05:25] <dpupp> Thanks Amaranth
[05:25] <Kian> Amaranth: I am not... I can write it in bash, but not in irssi.
[05:25] <nickrud> hmpedersen, I use the fx5200, the stuff from ubuntu works just fine
[05:25] <_jason> eksajm, hrmm your user is in the admin group, you can pastebin your sudoers file to make sure it looks like mine if you'd like.  maybe something needs to be refreshed, you can try to reboot if the syntax of sudoers checks out
[05:25] <Amaranth> Kian: gnome-terminal?
[05:25] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: cheers. breezy installed, compiling the kernel now
[05:25] <Kian> Amaranth: no, ssh-connection
[05:25] <hmpedersen> nickrud, its just interesting.. Ive installed twice now.. It either freezes at trying to setup graphics or sound..
[05:25] <Amaranth> Kian: what terminal are you using?
[05:25] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: same here (gcc going along)
[05:25] <Amaranth> Kian: konsole, gnome-terminal, putty, etc
[05:25] <Kian> Amaranth: Hm, you mean putty?
[05:25] <Kian> putty
[05:25] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: via driver works out-of-the-box with breezy btw. so you should not have any use for the vesa driver
[05:26] <trappist> is everyone's dmesg polluted with messages like atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed... ?
[05:26] <Amaranth> Kian: ok then, i have no idea
[05:26] <Amaranth> Kian: i blame putty :P
[05:26] <Kian> ok.. :-P
[05:26] <Kian> Well, it works on another server.. so i guess its not putty
[05:26] <Kian> hehe
[05:26] <Amaranth> trappist: mine was
[05:26] <eksajm> _jason, you think a reboot might work?
[05:26] <Amaranth> trappist: or is, i dunno
[05:26] <trappist> oh, putty.  I couldn't even enter my password in putty.
[05:26] <robotgeek> Kian: putty might have some encoding.
[05:26] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: do u know how to stop messages from going to the console?
[05:26] <nickrud> hmpedersen, do you have onboard, sound & video, and if yes, did you disable in bios (I didn't need to but...)
[05:26] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: had to disable framebuffer because my lcd errored to "out-of-range"
[05:26] <Kian> Hm..
[05:26] <LaptopZZ> Amaranth: this old sata_nv driver streams this annoying stuff non stop
[05:26] <hmpedersen> nickrud, allways disable that sort of stuff.. it never works
[05:27] <trappist> !tell Amaranth about e02a
[05:27] <Amaranth> trappist: err
[05:27] <_jason> eksajm, I think it should be working now, since your setup is the same as mine now.  I think rebooting is worth a shot
[05:27] <Amaranth> trappist: was on a desktop
[05:27] <trappist> need to turn that into a bug report I guess.  thought it was just here and there, but I have it on all my boxes.
[05:27] <eksajm> kk lets try it then.
[05:27] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: Naaahhhh, not with me! After the install routine i had the same prob... black screen but hearing the drumroll, until i manually changed the driver to vesa
[05:27] <Amaranth> trappist: well, actually a vmware image
[05:27] <eksajm> be back ;)
[05:27] <trappist> Amaranth: me too, I think it's there for laptops and it's busted.
[05:27] <Kian> Well there is something starnge with putty i guess. It works on the server..
[05:28] <k_> why doesnt my sound work in vlc?  system sounds work, but not vlc.
[05:28] <mahangu> how can i unrar a file?
[05:28] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: after a fresh breezy install!? that is bad bad bad.
[05:28] <trappist> mahangu: unrar x file.rar
[05:28] <mindframe> why doesnt my sound work in vlc?  system sounds work, but not vlc.
[05:28] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: but true
[05:28] <DRK13> anyone get conky working in ubuntu> ?  I tryed to compile from source, but no workie. I ran a 686 version with my 686 kernel. and it says that I need the 686 version of conky, I did use the 686 version!  WTF?
[05:29] <nickrud> hmpedersen, all I can say is that http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia worked like a charm
[05:29] <tiris> could someone direct me to the correct documentation...I am having trouble finding out how to do something?
[05:29] <llamuh> trappist:  its me again with the proxim orinoco gold card problems.  from what i can gather from netstumbler forums and such, the card i have is not a classic gold card and thus does not have the hermes chipset.  i believe it is the 11b card they made which should have the Atheros chipset that they used in the b/g cards.  now what i dont get is this is a very common card and i dont see how it isnt already supported in ubuntu.  ive read on some forums that peo
[05:29] <mahangu> trappist, oh the package wasnt installed. thanks
[05:29] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: maybe you should run the memtest in the grubmenu...?
[05:29] <robotgeek> DRK13: conky is in the repositories
[05:29] <dgb> how can I logon with root in ubuntu?
[05:29] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: what are your bios settings for the agp? do you have another video card plugged in?
[05:29] <trappist> llamuh: if it has an atheros chipset it should work fantastically with the madwifi drivers
[05:30] <robotgeek> DRK13: enable universe
[05:30] <DRK13> conky dosent install correctly from the repos.
[05:30] <DRK13> I tryed it
[05:30] <DRK13> its a bad version for something, I read about it on the forums
[05:30] <trappist> !tell dgb about root
[05:30] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: No other video, video-ram in bios set to 32M
[05:30] <LaptopZZ> llamuh: the madwifi-ng is aewsome
[05:30] <llamuh> yeah i saw someone mention madwifi on a forum.  where can i get info on madwifi?
[05:30] <llamuh> just google it? ;)
[05:30] <LaptopZZ> llamuh: google for madwifi-ng, and follow the noobie guuide
[05:30] <llamuh> im being such a noob, i know
[05:30] <trappist> llamuh: that's always a good start
[05:30] <LaptopZZ> llamuh: walks you right through it
[05:30] <stef_ubu_epia> Ok, kernel compile just finished
[05:31] <llamuh> thanks
[05:31] <trappist> doesn't ubuntu ship with the madwifi drivers?
[05:31] <DRK13> maybe
[05:31] <robotgeek> DRK13: try compiling from source, it is pretty easy. apt-get build-dep conky first
[05:31] <LaptopZZ> trappist: even dappers doesn't have new enough ones
[05:31] <khermans> HOw can I install Bitpim?
[05:31] <trappist> oh
[05:31] <LaptopZZ> trappist: my p7010d is a year old and dappers doesn't even support my atheros, only the latest svn does
[05:31] <hmpedersen> nickrud, well.. it might work for me aswell.. if i could do it while installing ubuntu
[05:31] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: maybe you should disable framebuffer in ubuntu install and not use it in your custom kernel either
[05:31] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: you can also try in the installer pci=noacpi
[05:32] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: compiled it as module, so i can turn it off
[05:32] <nickrud> hmpedersen, install problems are mostly over my head, I don't know enough about the internals of that
[05:32] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: brilliant
[05:32] <DRK13> ok will trywill try
[05:32] <stef_ubu_epia> OK, just let me set up the new kernel and see
[05:32] <robotgeek> DRK13: while you are at it, file a bug too :)
[05:33] <nickrud> hmpedersen, didn't realize it was during the install :)
[05:33] <DRK13> Ok
[05:35] <mindframe> anyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the card to work :(
[05:35] <trappist> I just got an email about how dapper is gonna have 'less' bugs (should be 'fewer') than any release ever.  seems like a premature announcement given the current extreme brokenness of dapper.
[05:36] <DjLinX> how do u chown a whole dir with sub dirs and other files
[05:36] <_jason> DjLinX, chown -R
[05:36] <trappist> DjLinX: chown -R
[05:36] <DjLinX> thx
[05:36] <LaptopZZ> trappist: yeah I wish I had stayed with breezy
[05:36] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: i forgot to put in pci=noacpi in the installer so i got some funny errors during "installing packages" process. very interesting error indeed: "apm: overridden by acpi" "apm: disabled on user request". I hope this won't affect anything i'm doing now though...
[05:36] <trappist> DjLinX: also feel free to 'man chown'
[05:36] <DjLinX> wats the man do
[05:37] <LaptopZZ> trappist: I have it going up till it tries to mount the rootfs
[05:37] <DRK13> I am still using horry untill Dapper is final
[05:37] <_jason> DjLinX, man man
[05:37] <stef_ubu_epia> ok, x-ing fingers...
[05:37] <_jason> DjLinX, manual files
[05:37] <hmpedersen> gonna try some other params when starting install this time..
[05:37] <DjLinX> o
[05:37] <DRK13> k
[05:37] <DjLinX> i was on ubuntu guide
[05:37] <eksajm> _jason, it works
[05:37] <Joemama_> hello, quick question, is there something i need in order to see an ntfs file system over the network, i got a samba share on this puter, but cant seem to write to it, so i shared the other computers drive, and this computer cant seem to see the files and folders in the share
[05:37] <LaptopZZ> trappist: dies there saying it can't open /dev/sda2 :-(
[05:37] <SanderD> trappist, LaptopZZ: what kind of problems do you have with Dapper?
[05:37] <eksajm> thanks!!
[05:37] <hmpedersen> This computer is going to run ubuntu!
[05:37] <_jason> eksajm, great
[05:37] <eksajm> _jason, dont know why it didnt work before reboot
[05:37] <DjLinX> but all it did was the basic chown
[05:37] <eksajm> thans mate..
[05:37] <trappist> LaptopZZ: it's a scsi drive?
[05:37] <LaptopZZ> SanderD: at the moment the new kernel blew up my grub/initrd, I can't boot
[05:37] <_jason> eksajm, np
[05:37] <LaptopZZ> trappist: sata, I have satanv and SiI
[05:37] <trappist> SanderD: I'm going on hearsay, but I'm about to do a vmware install.
[05:38] <LaptopZZ> trappist: tried with both it's like the driver is gone
[05:38] <trappist> LaptopZZ: can't help you there.  I've never used a sata drive.
[05:38] <LaptopZZ> trappist: generally its pretty straightforward..
[05:38] <LaptopZZ> trappist: this setup as worked for the past 6 mos
[05:38] <stef_ubu_epia> shi.....
[05:38] <freddie> my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me
[05:38] <Joemama_> is there something i need to see an ntfs file share on windows xp computer?
[05:38] <stef_ubu_epia> i had that before
[05:39] <hmpedersen> right.. never seen this before..
[05:39] <ideafix> hello unters
[05:39] <LaptopZZ> Joemama_: no such thing as ntfs etc over smb
[05:39] <LaptopZZ> Joemama_: it's all smbfs or cifs
[05:39] <Joemama_> hrmm
[05:39] <Joemama_> cifs ?
[05:39] <Joemama_> what is cifs?
[05:39] <stef_ubu_epia> x seems to be at the edge of initializing..... 5 sec... and then the monitor switches to black
[05:39] <ideafix> many shipits to you
[05:39] <SanderD> LaptopZZ: how long does it take until such problems are fixed? or should you reinstall then?
[05:39] <Ng> Joemama_: an enhanced and standardised version of smb, ish
[05:39] <Joemama_> well, when i log into the share, it tells me that some of the files are not able to be displayed
[05:39] <LaptopZZ> SanderD: what do you mean?
[05:39] <stef_ubu_epia> no fb, booted with vga=0
[05:39] <LaptopZZ> SanderD: I don't maintain the ubu kernel
[05:39] <Joemama_> which happens to be all the files
[05:39] <ideafix> any niggaz in here ?
[05:40] <LaptopZZ> SanderD: I might get the live cd out to have it load the stock breezy kernel
[05:40] <jowi> Joemama_: smbclient should be able to write to it if the kernel's got ntfs write support enabhled. i don't know if the stock kernel has. maybe someone else knows. Something else: XP firewalls are a bitch. if you're natted, disable it for testing.
[05:40] <freddie> my flash player words dont show up can some one help me
[05:40] <SanderD> LaptopZZ: was your problem fixed? I heard many packages are being updated every day or something like that, so I guess those problem might be fixed quickly
[05:40] <SanderD> ah, ok
[05:40] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: So i took ur config as a starting point just added reiserfs-support and framebuffer as a module
[05:40] <LaptopZZ> SanderD: I don't see how I'm going to resolve any problems if I can't even uncompress the kernel from grub
[05:40] <TasmanianDevil> i have installed ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop
[05:40] <hmpedersen> i wonder how long he's gonna keep that up.. and how many names he'll be using..
[05:40] <freddie> freddie my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me
[05:40] <Joemama_> hrmm
[05:41] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: is there an option for framebuffer in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:41] <TasmanianDevil> i don't have mp3 support on it
[05:41] <mindframe> anyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the wifi to work :(
[05:41] <TasmanianDevil> what can i do about it
[05:41] <adroc> helo all
[05:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell TasmanianDevil about mp3
[05:41] <freddie> freddie my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me
[05:41] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: mom, let me try something
[05:41] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: i followed my own wiki to see if i have everything, so i went with a new config. we'll see in  a while
[05:41] <freddie> my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me
[05:42] <freddie> my flash player wored dont show up can someone help me
[05:42] <hmpedersen> Well.. I'm going to have to temporarily install wi.. BAQH!
[05:42] <adroc> does anyone in here use airodump?
[05:42] <_jason> freddie, what is 'wored'
[05:42] <hmpedersen> bah*
[05:42] <SanderD> is it possible to use one /home partition with two linux versions?
[05:42] <muep> SanderD: yes
[05:43] <freddie> _jasonthe wordes and the nubers just dounr show up
[05:43] <hmpedersen> hmm.. i have xandros somewhere on the desk..
[05:43] <freddie> dount*
[05:43] <D1> anyone tried clearlooks-cario yet? on breezy or dapper?
[05:43] <Joemama_> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: minint-bhi9gl".
[05:43] <Joemama_> that is the error
[05:43] <bliplsjfo> can anyone give me some grub advice?  i have it set to timeout 0 and it's crashing without giving me a chance to repair it.
[05:43] <Joemama_> that i am getting
[05:43] <D1> I wanna know if its too slow to use.
[05:43] <D1> since it wsa put on dapper
[05:43] <stef_ubu_epia> Intresting things happen here...
[05:43] <Joemama_> and i dont see any files listed
[05:43] <SanderD> muep: so I could leave breezy on one partition, install dapper on another and share my /home partition?
[05:44] <jowi> Joemama_: never seen before i'm afraid
[05:44] <Joemama_> hrmm
[05:44] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: tell me then :)
[05:44] <hmpedersen> I dont like the idea of installing xandros.. worst purchase i ever made :(
[05:44] <muep> SanderD: yes, it would probably work
[05:44] <Joemama_> lemme go see if i can indeed access it from another windows computer
[05:44] <Joemama_> brb
[05:44] <_jason> freddie, I don't know if this will work for you, but google says: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/17/flash-text-fix/
[05:44] <muep> SanderD: newer versions of software might have different conf files but most of the stuff should work ok
[05:44] <jowi> Joemama_: check the software firewall while you're at it :)
[05:45] <selinium> how do you shut down via the commandline?
[05:45] <Ng> shutdown -h now
[05:45] <SanderD> muep: okay, thanks, I think I'll try that (I could always remove the conf files and reconfigure things)
[05:45] <selinium> Ng, Cheers
[05:45] <depx_> hi
[05:45] <stef_ubu_epia> I got a strange looking colorful x-desktop on console 1 (!), x-server screwed up, and just a blue empty screen on all other consoles
[05:45] <muep> SanderD: no prob, at least it won't mess up your system, the worst damage possible should be some distorted user configs
[05:46] <_jason> freddie, you may want to try just 'sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11' first and then msttcorefonts afterwards if that doesn't work alone
[05:46] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: don't like the sound of that. what did you do to make it ...ehhh... wierd?
[05:46] <D1> nobody with clearlooks-cario? ;[
[05:46] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: how much ram have you got on that board?
[05:47] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: just booting the new kernel with vga=791 and havving the driver set to via
[05:47] <depx_> i'm trying to boot a diskless worstation with pxe + nfs
[05:47] <mebsd> what's the difference between debian and ubuntu
[05:48] <Hericus> mebsd, do you run either?
[05:48] <stef_ubu_epia> I think there's something really screwed up in terms of hardware board revisions, and the via concept of preferring the frambuffer as a graphical output
[05:48] <ofir> how to use wine ?
[05:48] <mebsd> deb
[05:48] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: got 512mb
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> mebsd: if you're a noob, you might want to run ubu
[05:49] <adroc> how do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?
[05:49] <depx_> the boot process fail after the kernel : /dev/nfs does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[05:49] <ofir> installed it but dont know tp use
[05:49] <Hericus> LaptopZZ, define a noob.
[05:49] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: me too, using 64mb for the agp. have you disabled plug-and-play in bios?
[05:49] <adroc> how do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> Hericus: someone who doesn't know how to setup X on his own using the config file
[05:49] <hmpedersen> hmm.. never got this far in install before.. But im gonna wait and see if it works.. Im sure it wont beat ubuntu, though..
[05:49] <gypsymauro> hello
[05:49] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: i'll try that
[05:49] <adroc> how do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?
[05:50] <hmpedersen> hmm.. my pizza must be gettin cold..
[05:50] <Hericus> LaptopZZ, hm.. thats a nice one. I'll save it for christmas eve.
[05:50] <mebsd> i  run netbsd and windows xp.. am i newbie?
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> Hericus: hm?
[05:50] <gypsymauro> please tell me the application of ubuntu that's not in the official DB and that you download when installa new one ubuntu:)
[05:50] <Hericus> "do you know how to setup x on your own"
[05:50] <Hericus> hah
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> Hericus: I ran slack in the 3.x days
[05:50] <Hericus> Admirable..
[05:50] <Hericus> And now..
[05:51] <LaptopZZ> I am in school and don't have time to screw with it so I went from deb to ubu
[05:51] <LaptopZZ> very nice overall
[05:51] <Hericus> Yes..
[05:51] <Hericus> :)
[05:51] <ofir> need help how to run ie under xwine
[05:51] <Hericus> Ubuntu is satisfactory.
[05:51] <trappist> ofir: might not work at all.  but wine IEXPLORE.EXE should do the trick if it's going to work at all.
[05:51] <LaptopZZ> Hericus: they follow their 'linux for human beings' to a t, it really is useable more or less by non nerds
[05:52] <LaptopZZ> Hericus: but at the same time offers a fair amount of flexibility
[05:52] <ofir> thanks , also xwine ieexplore.exe ?
[05:52] <hmpedersen> ofir, ie6 wont install
[05:52] <LaptopZZ> ofir: crossover office
[05:52] <Hericus> Yes, yes..
[05:52] <adroc> how do u manually put your NIC into promiscuous mode?
[05:52] <LaptopZZ> ofir: its your only option
[05:52] <hmpedersen> crossover might work...
[05:52] <tiris> anyone know how to run files from a remote server (I am trying to play music located on my server harddrive but the player on my local machine is not seeing the files. The remote machine is a Linux BOX)?
[05:52] <Hericus> Brb. Something is wrong.
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> adios
[05:53] <mebsd> why not just run windows instead of wine
[05:53] <iG3n> can someone please help, I get this error when I try to install ANY package, it happened after I install webcamd... http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste
[05:53] <trappist> adroc: ifconfig <device> promisc
[05:53] <freddie> _jason were will i find that
[05:53] <stef_ubu_epia> OH NOO!!!! Never ever let me setup a computer!! STUPID ME!!
[05:53] <_oP> hello all, was wondering if there would be a possibility to have something simular ro the ubuntu live for games, so u can boot a complete os from cd and play enjoy the game with linux?
[05:53] <_jason> freddie, find what?
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: paste didn't work, try apt-get -f install
[05:53] <stef_ubu_epia> Output device in BIOS was set to TV!
[05:53] <adroc> thx
[05:54] <iG3n> doesn't work
[05:54] <stef_ubu_epia> Got it running
[05:54] <ofir> cost 65 dollars ...
[05:54] <freddie> _jason this sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: well until we have a good paste, hard to say
[05:54] <ofir> crossover office cost 65 dollars ...
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> ofir: its very good
[05:54] <_jason> freddie, you type that in a terminal, apt-get is like synaptic on the command line
[05:54] <trappist> ofir: best $65 you'll ever spend on software.  it's awesome.
[05:54] <iG3n> http://channels.debian.net/paste/1294
[05:54] <_jason> !info gsfonts-x11
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> ofir: crossover office runs a lot of programs very well
[05:54] <dePOLL> Hi. I'm looking for some tool to easily convert a xcursor file to an animated gif or to create an animated gif out of a series of single pngs. i feel like gimp is a bit of an overkill for that task :)
[05:54] <ubotu> gsfonts-x11: (Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.17ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[05:54] <iG3n> LaptopZZ: ttp://channels.debian.net/paste/1294
[05:55] <freddie> _jason weres the termnal
[05:55] <trappist> dePOLL: try imagemagick
[05:55] <_jason> freddie, app menu -> accessories
[05:55] <mebsd> is ubuntu better than debian??
[05:55] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: hm you broke it bad
[05:55] <trappist> mebsd: of course.
[05:55] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: apt-get update; apt-get -f install
[05:56] <iG3n> doesn't fix it
[05:56] <_jason> mebsd, for some people, what really amtters is if it's better for you :)
[05:56] <ofir> the only money i spent on software yet was win95 at 9t cosy me 120 $
[05:56] <ofir> ")
[05:56] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: apt-get install --reinstall
[05:56] <ofir> at 98
[05:56] <occy> So I guess I'm the only person having problems with Ubuntu breezy.  Gnome barfing here and there, Firefox dies... bmp dies, rhytembox dies on me... xchat will go poof too.
[05:56] <_oP> @mebsd it has more implemented, like samba, also it is a little more easy to find support for newbies
[05:56] <Hericus> Back.
[05:56] <dePOLL> trappist: mh.. that means crawling through hundreds of command line options.. but i'll take a look, thx.
[05:56] <Hericus> The question isn't how.
[05:56] <trappist> ofir: apparently ye olde wine isn't yet up to the task of running ie.  but cxoffice is pretty awesome.
[05:56] <Hericus> Or is it..
[05:56] <iG3n> not good
[05:56] <Hericus> :-/
[05:56] <freddie> _jason it sayes E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:56] <freddie> freddie@68-187-221-198:~$ apt-get install gsfonts-x11
[05:56] <freddie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:56] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: are you running hoary or what?
[05:57] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: OK, addendum to the wiki: Make sure, the video out in the bios is set to CRT only, if CRT and TV is set, the monitor isn't detectet
[05:57] <trappist> freddie: sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11
[05:57] <_jason> freddie, you forgot the 'sudo' aprt in the beginning
[05:57] <iG3n> says E:Unmet dependencies. Try using -f
[05:57] <Nei> hi my ubuntu wine doesn't give access to my cdwriter to nero, how can I fix it?
[05:57] <Nei> the error message says
[05:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell freddie about sudo
[05:57] <Nei> err:aspi:SCSI_GetDeviceName Could not open HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi\Scsi Port 0\Scsi Bus 0\Target Id 1\Logical Unit Id 0
[05:57] <ofir> i think i will go back to xp - that will end my suffers
[05:57] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: hoary or breezy
[05:57] <pipeline> Nei: I wouldn't expect that to work.
[05:57] <trappist> Nei: probably need to tweak your wine config
[05:57] <Nei> pipeline, it works fine on debian
[05:57] <trappist> pipeline: I've run nero in wine
[05:57] <pipeline> Nei: Use the Nero ISO writer and burn the ISO with linux software.
[05:57] <trappist> but
[05:57] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: that's it? that was what was wrong all along?
[05:57] <hmpedersen> Now.. I do hope Cedega runs in xandr..
[05:57] <trappist> nero makes a linux version too
[05:58] <freddie> _jason it say the same thing
[05:58] <iG3n> YESSSSS
[05:58] <LaptopZZ> trappist: since when?
[05:58] <Nei> pipeline, the nero image writer only produces proprietary images
[05:58] <iG3n> I fixed it!
[05:58] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: what did u do?
[05:58] <pipeline> Nei: That is not true.
[05:58] <_jason> freddie, close synaptic or any other installing program before running that command
[05:58] <pipeline> Nei: And even if it were, they're easily converted.
[05:58] <iG3n> apt-get -f --reinstall fixed it :)
[05:58] <trappist> LaptopZZ: http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
[05:58] <stef_ubu_epia> I think yes.... so i'll test my previously built kernel again with the via drivers
[05:58] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: congrats
[05:58] <Nei> pipeline, how do I convert a nrg to iso?
[05:58] <pipeline> Nei: It is true that by default, it produces the nero format, but it is indeed possible on the "full" version of nero to burn regular isos.
[05:59] <pipeline> Nei: nrg2iso
[05:59] <_oP> @ofir what seems to be the trouble
[05:59] <nlindblad> Seveas, are you with us?
[05:59] <Seveas> nlindblad, half
[05:59] <LaptopZZ> trappist: hmm $20, not bad, gnomebaker seems to work reasonably well for me though
[05:59] <nlindblad> Seveas, update on my rootish-problems
[05:59] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: so the via drivers are buggy insofar, that the detection of the correct output device fails if not set to CRT only
[05:59] <trappist> LaptopZZ: it's all about the k3b
[05:59] <freddie> _jason im not installing any thing
[05:59] <nlindblad> Seveas, I remember now, that I was prompted to set a root-password during the install
[06:00] <ofir> my mother can not enter her bank acount with firefox
[06:00] <LaptopZZ> trappist: heh whatever floats your boar
[06:00] <LaptopZZ> boat
[06:00] <_jason> freddie, why not?
[06:00] <xirtus> anyone here know a good 64bit compatible dvd shrink program for linux?
[06:00] <Seveas> nlindblad, server install i guess
[06:00] <nlindblad> Seveas, I thought it was weird back then but I didn't think that much about it
[06:00] <Nei> pipeline, thanks I'll try that, but still it should work :/
[06:00] <nlindblad> Seveas, no, a regular installation
[06:00] <trappist> LaptopZZ: yeah right.  everyone knows it's the best.  just like kde is the best desktop environment.
[06:00] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: just booted fresh. for me the wiki works flawless. perfect dri rendering. with all correct options. seems like there is a bug in the via driver for sure. I've CRT+TV, PAL, AGP as primary device.
[06:00] <freddie> _jason i mean im not trying to install any thing
[06:00] <LaptopZZ> trappist: hah, I'm fine with gnome
[06:00] <Seveas> nlindblad, regular ubuntu install has never asked for a root pw
[06:00] <pipeline> Nei: Well, you could write the ISO Directly >:(
[06:00] <pipeline> Nei: Also, there's a variety of decent native software
[06:00] <Nei> nero should be able to find my cd writer
[06:00] <nlindblad> Seveas, might I've invoked a function?
[06:01] <iG3n> is it easy to get bootsplash to work on ubuntu?
[06:01] <ofir> i am spending hours in installig software
[06:01] <ofir> not everything is working
[06:01] <LaptopZZ> iG3n: it takes effort to get rid of it
[06:01] <Nei> which native software supports nrg natively?
[06:01] <_jason> freddie, to get flash to display properly, I thnik you will need that package.  I have tha package installed myself, it is from main.  It's perfectly fine.
[06:01] <Seveas> nlindblad, can't imagine which if you didn't do a server install
[06:01] <ubu_on_epia> jowi, that's how it looks here
[06:01] <iG3n> thats alright
[06:01] <nlindblad> Seveas, I did the regular one
[06:01] <Seveas> iG3n, ubuntu uses usplash
[06:01] <antgel> when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart, it hangs. is this supported?  i don't want to have to use the gnome gui to do this
[06:01] <ubu_on_epia> :~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:01] <ubu_on_epia> __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 - succeeded
[06:01] <ubu_on_epia> direct rendering: Yes
[06:01] <nlindblad> Seveas, I'm sure
[06:01] <iG3n> I really want it
[06:01] <LaptopZZ> upgrade to breezy
[06:01] <jowi> ubu_on_epia: perfect
[06:01] <LaptopZZ> you can have it
[06:01] <Nei> anyway although some software like k3b is close, nero is still better
[06:01] <trappist> Nei: nerolinux
[06:02] <Seveas> iG3n, get the ubuntu kernel source, patch it, compile
[06:02] <iG3n> it's not working
[06:02] <iG3n> do I have to apt-get it
[06:02] <ubu_on_epia> Thanks for all the fish .;-D
[06:02] <Seveas> yes, and manually patch and compile
[06:02] <iG3n> can you give me though it?
[06:02] <Nei> trappist, are you sure? anyway nerolinux sucks
[06:02] <freddie> _jason i cant read it cause the wordes dont show up
[06:02] <Seveas> iG3n, no
[06:02] <zauber> Hi.. having trouble with iptables on my ubuntu server. I have a client whose firewall won't allow him to use port 22 (don't ask why - I don't get the answer...). Anyhow, I thought I could use iptables on the server to route all requests on port 2222 to 22 (say that ten times:) ) I tried a one liner but it doesn't seem to be working. May I paste it?
[06:02] <jowi> ubu_on_epia: you're welcome man. nice to know that the wiki was ok.
[06:02] <_oP> @ofir try to switch pipelining off type in adress bar about:config and scroll down to network.http.pipelining and deactivate it
[06:02] <ubu_on_epia> but at least the howto is now perfectly proven
[06:02] <Seveas> zauber, sure
[06:02] <nlindblad> Seveas, will recovery be a pain in the ass?
[06:02] <zauber> sudo /sbin/iptables -t=nat -p tcp --dport 2222  -j DNAT --to 213.136.36.202:22
[06:02] <jowi> ubu_on_epia: will add the crt+tv issue in the troubleshooting section
[06:03] <Seveas> nlindblad, boot from a live cd, reset the root password
[06:03] <_oP> maybe it will help
[06:03] <nlindblad> Seveas, considering root isn't permitted to log in and no user is in the admin-group
[06:03] <_jason> freddie, I've told you, to fix that problem I think you will need to install gsfonts-x11.  If you don't want to do that then I don't what else to suggest.
[06:03] <zauber> woops.. wrong one (btw - the ipadress is not to my server - so dont try)
[06:03] <nlindblad> Seveas, boot: recovery ?
[06:03] <Seveas> nlindblad, livecd is a different environment
[06:03] <Seveas> not recovery mode, you need a live cd
[06:03] <nlindblad> oh
[06:03] <Hoxzer> can I somehow see from open office how many words I have into my text?
[06:03] <zauber> $ sudo /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2222  -j DNAT --to 213.136.36.202:22
[06:03] <nlindblad> Seveas, you mean chroot?
[06:03] <Seveas> yup
[06:03] <zauber> thats the one I thought would work...
[06:04] <nlindblad> Seveas, okey
[06:04] <freddie> _ i want to install it but i dont no how
[06:04] <iG3n> how do I capture images off a usb webcam?
[06:04] <trappist> zauber: you want -j REDIRECT --to-ports 22
[06:04] <iG3n> ov511 driver
[06:04] <freddie> _jason i want to install it but i dont no how
[06:04] <Seveas> zauber, echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[06:04] <zauber> trappist: great! I'll try that
[06:04] <_jason> freddie, okay, can you use the search function in synaptic?  Search for 'gsfonts-x11' and install it.
[06:04] <Seveas> -j DNAT is good
[06:05] <khermans> HOw can I add /usr/local/lib to my library path?
[06:05] <trappist> zauber: I'm assuming you're doing this on the same box he wants to ssh to
[06:05] <ofir> :) i am too tired of trying things , thanks for the help
[06:05] <khermans> I have a program that is not finding libtiff3, that i installed manually
[06:05] <zauber> trappist: yes
[06:05] <trappist> khermans: add it to /etc/ld.so.conf
[06:05] <_oP> :)
[06:05] <steve_> hey can someone explain how to access apt-get?
[06:05] <zauber> seveas, do you mean echo 1> /proc...
[06:05] <Seveas> khermans, echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.so.conf && sudo ldconfig
[06:06] <steve_> where do I need to go inorder to input commands?
[06:06] <Seveas> zauber, ehm, yeah
[06:06] <trappist> khermans: what Seveas said
[06:06] <khermans> Seveas, thanks!
[06:06] <_oP> @steve_ u mean use it? try apt-cache search + what u are looking for then apt-get install + what u need ...
[06:06] <ofir> even the bitorrent does not working
[06:07] <zauber> Seveas... I get permission denied when doing that. even when sudoing. do you need to be real root for that?
[06:07] <_oP> @ofir do u use a firewall ? like firestarter ? or router?
[06:07] <LaptopZZ> trappist: k3b has gotten a lot better
[06:07] <LaptopZZ> trappist: very nice
[06:07] <freddie> _jason thx 1 owe u 1
[06:07] <trappist> zauber: are you sure you got the file right?
[06:07] <_jason> freddie, np
[06:07] <trappist> LaptopZZ: I like it better than anything on win32
[06:07] <LaptopZZ> trappist: gnomebaker kept crashing on load, it looks really nice
[06:07] <tiris> Anyone know how network drives are mounted in this distro I don't see anything in the /mnt/ dir?
[06:08] <zauber> Seveas: yes, I can paste two lines if its ok (command and result)
[06:08] <LaptopZZ> trappist: yeah I'll stick with this
[06:08] <trappist> tiris: try /media
[06:08] <ubu_on_epia> jowi, just booted my previous kernel again (with fb-support compiled in) and it works as well
[06:08] <ofir> i have conection my problem is installing stuff and not seeing sites corectly with fire fox
[06:08] <mindframe> anyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the wifi to work :(
[06:08] <tech9iner> misfit_toy you up chum?
[06:08] <jowi> ubu_on_epia, stef_ubu_epia: gonna shutdown this comp and login on my real one. brb. ahh, that is great news
[06:08] <misfit_toy> hey tech9iner , just sat down
[06:08] <Seveas> zauber, echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/.....
[06:08] <steve_> like how do you get to it?
[06:09] <ofir> also the bitorrent asking me to find a meta file
[06:09] <jordo23> What's the command to tell if you are connected to a domain?
[06:09] <steve_> OP: how do you get to the apt-get input?
[06:09] <ubu_on_epia> jowi, thanks again, and #we had a lot of fun' hadn't we ?
[06:09] <steve_> OP: I cant seem to find it
[06:09] <tiris> cdrom and floppy are there. but not the network drives. I gained access to the network drives using Places>Connect to server  if that helps.
[06:09] <deflux-> Is there any decent howto's for wine on ubuntu?
[06:09] <jowi> ubu_on_epia: it was interesting. best thing is that you now have a proper system! btw, did your boot-time improve?
[06:10] <tech9iner> timing is EVerythang eh misfit_toy ;] 
[06:10] <D1> YAY!!!!!
[06:10] <steve_> OP: Like where do I input apt-get MPlayer
[06:10] <D1> FILEZILLA RUNS ON UBUNTU!
[06:10] <steve_> or something like that
[06:10] <D1> the linux version that is....
[06:10] <android_> what version of macromedia dreamweaver works on crossover office?
[06:10] <jowi> ubu_on_epia: my boot time went from 65 to 35 seconds.
[06:10] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: of course.... got rid of evms and lvm as well :-D
[06:10] <misfit_toy> tech9iner, heh, so you have come over to the dark side have you?
[06:10] <_oP> @steve_ what are u searching for? trying to install, have u tryed --> System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager its very easy prog to search and instal stuff
[06:10] <Nei> how hard is it to get scsi emulation work on ubuntu? according to winehq I need that
[06:10] <zauber> Seveas that seems to have done the trick - still, the server is not responding on port 2222
[06:11] <zauber> even after rerunning the iptables command
[06:11] <trappist> zauber: if you're not flushing your rules, you need to use -I instead of -A to put the new rule at the beginning of the chain
[06:11] <Seveas> zauber, did you install the ssh server?
[06:12] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: i think that you can leave crt+tv if you start breezy installer with "linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false pci=noacpi" actually. but then framebuffer will be off. it was a hit and miss really. very good troubleshooting stef
[06:12] <zauber> trappist: thats probably it
[06:12] <zauber> Seveas: yes, ssh works fine on port 22 as it should
[06:12] <stef_ubu_epia> jowi: very good help on ur side as well...
[06:12] <Seveas> zauber, iptables -t NAT -L -v
[06:13] <Seveas> output -> pastebin
[06:13] <trappist> -t nat
[06:13] <krikey> how can I reconfigure the resolution in Ubuntu?
[06:13] <steve_> oP: well I would like to install MPlayer although it isnt shown in the Add/Remove programs
[06:13] <zauber> Seveas: what does that do?
[06:13] <jowi> stef_ubu_epia: you're the first person to try the wiki as far as i know. it's only been up for a week :)
[06:13] <Seveas> zauber, it lists the rules in the nat table
[06:13] <zauber> (the L and v)
[06:13] <Seveas> don't forget to take trappist's suggestion
[06:13] <trappist> L for list, v for verbose
[06:13] <krikey> ive tried the system/preferences/screen res but this only gives me 620x480
[06:14] <krikey> also I have a dual monitor setup
[06:14] <frafra> hi all
[06:14] <jowi> brb
[06:14] <stef_ubu_epia> c u
[06:14] <ubuntu_> Hi
[06:14] <frafra> my friend have sent me an email, cripted with gpg
[06:15] <dmitriy-X> how to install the cd driver ?
[06:15] <frafra> I've imported the key, but I don't know how decrypt it
[06:15] <krikey> whats the default root password?
[06:15] <krikey> after install
[06:15] <ubuntu_> Does any one no where I could download free MP3
[06:15] <Seveas> !tell krikey about root
[06:15] <Seveas> ubuntu_, google for 'creative commons music'
[06:15] <nadia007> can you have a win xp box authenticate users on a ubuntu server?
[06:15] <tech9iner> yepper.. i can recall all the numerous friges with had inside and out in barn n garages and henhouse n such on ks farm when a kid.. nuttin stopped them for decades..
[06:16] <dmitriy-X> how to play file .mp3 while using ubuntu linux OS ?
[06:16] <Seveas> nadia007, with samba
[06:16] <kane__> hey How are you?
[06:16] <Seveas> !tell dmitriy-X about mp3
[06:16] <DRK13> nuttin but a g-thing/
[06:16] <albacker> dmitriy-X, use xmms or beep-media-player
[06:16] <krikey> so how do I reconfigure ubuntu with the right monitor types and resolutions?
[06:16] <DRK13> I like beep
[06:16] <Seveas> !tell krikey about fixres
[06:16] <DRK13> beep beep!
[06:17] <DRK13> you can use winamp skins for beep
[06:17] <frafra> the mail starts with --BEGIN PGP MESSAGE--
[06:17] <frafra> I don't know how decrypt it
[06:17] <albacker> yes thats true,
[06:17] <frafra> who can help me?
[06:17] <nadia007> seveas, I'm trying to setup an ubuntu box as server in a win environment.  Ubuntu would be the only server.  Know of any resources that can help?
[06:17] <trappist> frafra: what email client
[06:17] <albacker> but i like the default skin, and i like more something functional than something good-looking.
[06:17] <Seveas> frafra, save it to file and run gpg --decrypt < filename
[06:18] <Seveas> nadia007, the samba docs & website :)
[06:18] <steve_> can anyone inform me as to how to get MPlayer installed on ubuntu?
[06:18] <frafra> I've download the mail with a mail client, I'm on the web interface of google
[06:18] <zauber> Seveas. & trappist. thanks for the tips! but It still doesn't quite seem to be doing it right, looking in the list of rules I now have target "REDIRECT", prot "tcp", "any" on in and out, "anywhere" for source and dest, plus the info: "tcp dpt:2222 redir ports 22"
[06:18] <trappist> frafra: paste it into a text file and decrypt it per Seveas's suggestion
[06:18] <nadia007> seveas, I thought samba was just for file sharing?
[06:19] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: updating the wiki now. if you wish me to add anything in particular feel free to tell me.
[06:19] <kane__> !tell steve_ try using synaptic package manager
[06:19] <zauber> Seveas & trappist: and its not responding to ssh requests on 2222, but it is responding on 22
[06:19] <_oP> yum just eating scampis and ships, carbohydrates and proteins good brain food yum yum
[06:19] <trappist> zauber: toes it timeout, or do you get connection refused, or what?
[06:19] <zauber> (ie I can log in when using the regular port)
[06:19] <Seveas> zauber, -j REDIRECT won't work, you need -j DNAT
[06:19] <zauber> trappist: timeout
[06:19] <zauber> Seveas, ok
[06:19] <trappist> -j REDIRECT was invented just for this
[06:19] <Seveas> nadia007, samba can also be the domain server
[06:19] <steve_> kane: how? what do you have to do, I search for Mplayer although it doesnt come up with any results
[06:20] <albacker> steve_, apt-get install mplayer-..  try doing unaame-a and se ethe number there. it should be 686, 386, 586, k7..
[06:20] <frafra> no openpgp data found, it says
[06:20] <nadia007> seveas, thanks... I'll do some reading.
[06:20] <blaaman1> steve_: Perhaps you need to add an repository ?
[06:20] <dmitriy-X> i want play need for speed most wanted using ubuntu linux Os, but i dont know how to install it. Can Someone help me ?
[06:20] <_oP> @blaaman1 true
[06:21] <frafra> how to decrypt it?
[06:21] <kane__> does anyone know how to make linux read my NTFS hdd?? Is there a way?
[06:21] <Kazidhea> steve_: if you understand french here is a very good howto http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=17087
[06:21] <albacker> dmitriy-X, you can play TUX-racer that is as COOL as need for speed underground.. but tuxracer has a great graphic. and its free !
[06:21] <Seveas> kane__, system -> admin -> disks
[06:21] <alexissoft> hi
[06:22] <Zoohouse> whats the name of a kde app that changes the screen resolution?
[06:22] <Riddell> krandr
[06:22] <Riddell> krandrtray
[06:22] <_oP> @kane__ firs u have to find out ur connected hdds with sudo fdisk -l
[06:22] <Seveas> Riddell, do you have a trigger on kde? :)
[06:22] <kane__> Seveas, Ialready tried it, mounted the disk to /media/hda1/ but there is nothing inside...
[06:22] <GameCat> hi
[06:22] <Seveas> kane__, what does ls /media/hda1 say?
[06:23] <_oP> then mount /dev/hd* + 123445 -t ntfs /path like /media/windows, but u have to create the directory first
[06:23] <kane__> Seveas, nothing it's empty
[06:23] <GameCat> can anyone tell me if Zend Studio Professional will run on (k)ubuntu? it requires glibc 2.1 apparently, and I'm unsure if I have that or not :)
[06:23] <Seveas> no error?
[06:23] <sebastian> When I run Apache and put in my external IP address  I get a blank page.   I think the reason for this is, because I get my IP address from DHCP.  and that I need to set up a static ip address  for Ubuntu,  ,but   I am not sure how to do that.   I was told also that my multi boot with XP can still use DHCP.  and all other computers on the network can use DHCP.  and Ubuntu can use the static
[06:23] <Seveas> kane__, put the output of the command 'mount' on the pastebin
[06:24] <pipeline> GameCat: It should work.
[06:24] <GameCat> pipeline: lovely, thnaks
[06:24] <_oP> @kane_ http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs and http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[06:24] <frafra> It doesn't decrypt the txt file that I've created pasting the text of the mail. Who can help me?
[06:25] <_jason> frafra, if you use thunderbird there is an extension that will make gpg easy... you just click and it does what you want
[06:25] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[06:25] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[06:25] <thegladiator> hi
[06:25] <thegladiator> i installed mozilla internet application suite
[06:25] <thegladiator> where can i find it ?
[06:25] <_jason> thegladiator, is it under the internet menu?
[06:26] <thegladiator> _jason, no i can nly see firefox there
[06:26] <blaamann> thegladiator: Maybe you need to restart Gnome
[06:26] <sktrdie> how do I take away
[06:26] <_jason> thegladiator, did you refresh the panel? (killall gnome-panel)
[06:26] <thegladiator> ok i will try that
[06:26] <sktrdie> GDM starts everytime automatically... I don't want that
[06:26] <sktrdie> !
[06:26] <ubotu> sktrdie: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:26] <sktrdie> how do I take it off?
[06:26] <zauber> Seveas & Trappist: using DNAT or REDIRECT gives same problem... I wonder .. there should be some iptables command to log an attempted connection right? You know what that would look like? seems like I'll need to do some dbugging...
[06:26] <markive> i can't get airsnort to work :(#
[06:27] <bshumate> zauber: if you're going to be connecting to your sshd on the non-standard port of 2222 anyway, why not simply edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config, change the 'Port' directive to 2222 and restart sshd with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart, and be done with it?
[06:27] <trappist> zauber: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2222 -j LOG --log-prefix "ssh attempt: "
[06:27] <Hericus> markive, you can however tell us what error message you get.
[06:27] <kane__> Seveas, there is no output... how do I do it...
[06:28] <zauber> bshumate: yea.. thought of that first... but, I want ssh to answer on 22 _also_ this "2222" business is mostly a hack for just one guy on an annoying firewall.
[06:28] <xirtus> linux ist gay//] 
[06:28] <trappist> zauber: oh, also: iptables -I FORWARD -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[06:28] <trappist> zauber: are you sure this guy can get out on 2222?
[06:29] <iG3n> how can I make it so when someone logs into my system before you can type anything you have to type y/n after the motd?
[06:29] <markive> Hericus, i don't get an error message  , it just doesn't start scanning
[06:29] <mindframe> anyone know why  ifconfig  is reading my cisco aironet 350 card's hardware address as 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 ?  im guessing thats why i cant get the wifi to work :(
[06:29] <iG3n> like to agree to my rules
[06:29] <zauber> trappist: yes, I have it from him that all ports above 1024 'can' be opened by his network administrator
[06:29] <thegladiator> the mozilla suite still doesnt exist
[06:29] <bshumate> zauber: ahhh...sounds like your chap cannot create outgoing traffic on 2222 then maybe?
[06:29] <Seveas> mindframe, cisco's create 2 interfaces, one with a good mac and one with a wrong mac
[06:30] <kane__> there is one more thing... Is there any way to somehow set up my other disk (fat32) because I have to use terminal and sudo command to copy/delete/move stuff...
[06:30] <_oP> open up terminal --> applications --> System Tools --> terminal and type in sudo fdisk -l then u will get a list of all hds connected, find out wich one is the ntfs and remember the hd* discription in front , then follow the instructions fiven
[06:30] <zauber> trappist : that first FORWARD thing I have not used. looks important - will try
[06:30] <zauber> bshumate: well no, not yet, but I'm testing from my own box...
[06:30] <mindframe> Seveas, so iwconfig shows eth1 and eth2, how do i delete one? (ifconfig only shows eth1)
[06:31] <kane__> _oP, OK what now?
[06:31] <iG3n> how can I make it so when someone logs into my system before you can type anything you have to type y/n after the motd?
[06:31] <iG3n> like to agree to my rules
[06:31] <albacker> thegladiator, add them manually,
[06:31] <samletunes> hello
[06:31] <samletunes> e
[06:31] <thegladiator> albacker, from the add applications menu ?
[06:31] <albacker> thegladiator, edit your menu, with smeg or add icons to your gnome panel !
[06:31] <anthrax> hey guys
[06:31] <markive> wifi radar works , b ut airsnort doesn't
[06:32] <iG3n> something to do with .login I think
[06:32] <anthrax> anyone play css on linux?
[06:32] <thegladiator> albacker, i did this > i clicked on add remove applications and there i saw this mozilla and i clicked there to install
[06:32] <trappist> iG3n: first thing that comes to mind is to write a script that displays the motd, reads an acceptance then conditionally starts /bin/bash, and make that script the user's shell in /etc/passwd.
[06:32] <Hericus> I don't.
[06:32] <thegladiator> and it is there now
[06:32] <thegladiator> why didnt it come after i ran synaptic?
[06:32] <Hericus> You do realise that there are a list of games that are availiable on linux.
[06:32] <_oP> @kane_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:32] <anthrax> yes hericus
[06:33] <albacker> thegladiator, open smeg and theres the "new menu" button, click it, and youll see how easy it is.
[06:33] <anthrax> i was just interested to see if anyone played css :)
[06:33] <iG3n> trappist: how do I do that?
[06:33] <iG3n> can you help me please
[06:33] <thegladiator> yep
[06:33] <_oP> @kane_ and search for fat
[06:33] <_oP> @kane_ or ntfs
[06:33] <kane__> anthrax, you mean cascade style sheet, yes I play that :D
[06:33] <hmpedersen> Right.. On 1 computer, kopete works fine.. On the other, it keeps saying password is incorrect..
[06:34] <hmpedersen> not that it matters, as i use gaim..
[06:34] <thegladiator> albacker, so each time after ysing synpaptic , shud i do that ? or will the menu get auto edited ? yum used to edit menu auto after a package was installed....what about synaptic ?
[06:34] <hmpedersen> just interesting..
[06:34] <anthrax> ;p;
[06:34] <anthrax> lol even*
[06:34] <DjLinX> i have a wireless usb card and i was wondering if i could change the boot loader so that it would load it b4 it loaded network so that it would auto start when i log into linux... is this possible?
[06:35] <albacker> thegladiator, i dont have to edit my menu, but you might want to restart gnome-panel or wait a bit.. i dont use synaptic but i think the procedure is the same.
[06:35] <thegladiator> albacker, ok thanks
[06:35] <markive> Anyone know about airsnort? wifi radar works the card but airsnort does d jackshet
[06:35] <zauber> trappist: nope... that did not do it either.... I wonder if iptables are doing anything at all, as I cant even get the logs to show up... *grrr*
[06:35] <markive> be back in a  bit chaps
[06:36] <_oP> @kane__ http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[06:36] <markive> pm if you know about airsnort and i'll get back to you. thanks.
[06:36] <trappist> zauber: that makes me think it's not on your end... or, did you add the log rule with -I?  if you used -A it's probably getting eaten by existing rules.
[06:36] <_oP> @kane__ Chapter 5. Windows Partitions
[06:37] <thoreauputic> .opme
[06:37] <GameCat> pipeline: Zend does indeed work - thanks for the reassurance :)
[06:37] <kane__> _oP, thx a lot...
[06:37] <norskfjord> how can I capture images off a usb webcam with console?
[06:38] <albacker> .opme2 :P
[06:38] <_oP> @kane__ np have fun learining :)
[06:38] <ebucis> thnx
[06:38] <kane__> _oP sure I will...
[06:39] <kane__> _oP there
[06:39] <defiance`> Hmm.
[06:39] <norskfjord> I want to capture an image every 30 seconds and save it in /var/www
[06:39] <defiance`> this is really nice, three monitors on one computer. :-)
[06:39] <kane__> _oP there's lot to learn (for me)
[06:39] <_oP> @kane__ same here, just started
[06:39] <zauber> trappist: I used -I... you may be right... I've had similar problems getting the server to serve mysql. Tried mucking about with iptables then too, to no avail.. the server _is_ hosted by a server-provider company (I'm working with some other people setting it up for production use) but they promise that their firewalls are not in the way. I think I'll give up for now and have the manager growl at them a bit instead. thanks all the same for the help!
[06:40] <kane__> _oP But from what I see now I like it better than WinXP
[06:40] <DjLinX> i have a wireless usb card and i was wondering if i could change the boot loader so that it would load it b4 it loaded network so that it would auto start when i log into linux... is this possible?
[06:40] <juliux> is there any mirror for the dapperflight2 iso?
[06:41] <_oP> @kane__ that is the right spirit !
[06:41] <zauber> final question, can sshd per chance be told to listen to both 22 and 2222 in the config file?
[06:41] <zauber> ...or why dont I just try and see..;)
[06:41] <zauber> sorry for all the Q
[06:42] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia: wanna try something?
[06:42] <Hericus> Lter.
[06:42] <trappist> zauber: you could run two instances of it
[06:42] <kyncani> zauber: what about using iptables to redirect port 2222 to port 22 ?
[06:42] <trappist> kyncani: hehe we just went through that
[06:42] <bshumate> zauber: Port may be used multiple times, yes
[06:42] <zauber> kyncani: did you miss the discussion ;)
[06:42] <rosen> Can anyone tell me why my downloads halts at 100% when downloading from a windows-box on the network ?
[06:43] <_oP> @kane__ also i must confess that i am using dual boot windows and ubuntu, only reason i need windows is for games, also there are emulator for playing games on linux it is never the same like on windows *newer games
[06:43] <trappist> rosen: sounds like a good place to halt
[06:43] <steve_> ok how do you setup XPlay in ubuntu?
[06:43] <steve_> or Mplayer rather
[06:43] <steve_> do i need to setup a depository or something?
[06:43] <steve_> and if so how?
[06:43] <rosen> trappist, it would be if it would complete it .. but as it is now it just starts to idle
[06:43] <kyncani> zauber: he ;) sorry :)
[06:43] <Seveas> !tell steve_ about mplayer
[06:43] <_oP> @steve_ i use vlc it can play everthing
[06:43] <trappist> rosen: sounds like a windows problem
[06:43] <soundray> rosen, a write problem at the destination, e.g. disk full
[06:43] <kane__> _oP well I'm on dualboot as well because there aren't any tools for video editing (Adobe Premiere)
[06:44] <rosen> soundray, I have plenty of room
[06:44] <soundray> rosen, have you got write permission in the target dir?
[06:44] <saik0> how would I extract a bunch of zip files from the CLI?
[06:44] <_oP> @kane__ dunno maybe u can do this with crossover office but i am not into video editing
[06:44] <steve_> is there a way to sync with your ipod?
[06:44] <rosen> soundray, yeah I even tried doing it as root
[06:44] <trappist> rosen: how long have you given it?  windows likes to put large downloads in a temp directory and then move them to the destination
[06:44] <trappist> wait, as root on a windows box?
[06:45] <saik0> would I have to script it?
[06:45] <cowbud> steve_: banshee or rhythmbox at the very least..
[06:45] <rosen> trappist, no ... I'm downloading FROM a windowsbox TO my linuxbox
[06:45] <trappist> eh.
[06:45] <trappist> rosen: using what protocol
[06:45] <rosen> trappist, I have no idea ... cp I guess ;)
[06:45] <trappist> rosen: I'll rephrase - how are you downloading it.
[06:45] <bshumate> saik0:  for i in 1ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done
[06:46] <bshumate> saik0: err s/l|s/ls
[06:46] <rosen> trappist, I connect to his machine by simply typing in his computername (we're on a lan) and then just cope paste
[06:46] <Logann> http://www.logann34.ht.cx <--- GET TO !!!
[06:46] <rosen> copy*
[06:46] <Logann> http://www.logann34.ht.cx <--- GET TO !!!
[06:46] <yatesy> Logann: bugger off
[06:46] <yatesy> damn :/
[06:46] <ClayG> I had spammers
[06:46] <ClayG> and hate them
[06:46] <bshumate> saik0: for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $i; done
[06:47] <trappist> never had a spammer myself.  you can keep em.
[06:47] <Tikakan> just curious, is anyone online who implanted a new HD into a 1G iPod?
[06:47] <rosen> places --> connect to server
[06:47] <bshumate> frozen fingers type poorly! ;-)
[06:47] <kane__> _oP Hey it works... I see my HDD :DD
[06:47] <kane__> _oP THX
[06:47] <saik0> bshumate works =)
[06:47] <zauber> heh... flushed the firewalls, set ssh to listen to both 22 and 2222, restarted, checked with netstat that its listening... and STILL only answers on 22 and not 2222. something is definitely wrong with the provider...
[06:48] <zauber> thanks all for the help. its been educational!
[06:48] <zauber> gotta go.
[06:48] <Tikakan> I would love to get some help too ;)
[06:48] <trappist> Tikakan: have you asked an on-topic question?
[06:49] <bshumate> Tikakan: sounds like you need a channel devoted to iPods for that Q
[06:49] <Tikakan> ah
[06:49] <Tikakan> I thought its ubuntu related, because I tried to partition the hd under ubuntu-live on a powerbook
[06:50] <Jemt> Greetings. I want to install Java for Firefox - but I can't find 'sun-j2re1.5' anymore. Only ver. 1.4 - how come ?
[06:50] <_oP> @kane__ cheers
[06:50] <korhalf|work> bah, i forgot im logged in at home
[06:51] <Ng> Jemt: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[06:51] <korhalf|work> there
[06:51] <Jemt> Ng: Ok
[06:52] <Jemt> Ng > It also says ver. 1.4.. Odd
[06:52] <Ghisdav> Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider  configurer grub sous ubuntu ?
[06:52] <korhalf> Ghisdav, si peut etre dans ton interesse de joine #ubuntu-fr
[06:52] <korhalf> c'est*
[06:52] <korhalf> ta*
[06:53] <korhalf> k je sais pas la langue francaise, mais va au #ubuntu-fr
[06:53] <trappist> haha
[06:53] <trappist> sure you don't
[06:53] <korhalf> lol
[06:53] <korhalf> Ghisdav, que-est ce que vous voulez faire?
[06:54] <soundray> korhalf, see, you scared him away :)
[06:54] <korhalf> yeh, i think i said the wrong things lol
[06:54] <nlindblad> Seveas, greetings from the LiveCD
[06:55] <nlindblad> I've changed the password by chrooting into my old system
[06:55] <nlindblad> I'm just wondering what the sudoers should be in for a group
[06:55] <nlindblad> since I guess Ubuntu doesn't use a wheel-group
[06:56] <idefix> is it possible to add programs to "Applications/Places/System" ?
[06:56] <sambagirl> what is a wheel-group?
[06:56] <trappist> nlindblad: %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL  <-- should already be in your sudoers file
[06:57] <trappist> sambagirl: some distros call the administrative group 'wheel'
[06:57] <DjLinX> How can i get my wireless usb card to start up activated...
[06:57] <sambagirl> ahh
[06:57] <pagux> hello ubuntoers
[06:57] <sambagirl> ok
[06:57] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there's a way to get update-manager to show you the old version of the package it's upgrading?
[06:57] <pagux> sambagirl: hi
[06:57] <sambagirl> does anyone know what TwistOS is?
[06:57] <pagux> :-)
[06:57] <sambagirl> chao pagux
[06:57] <nlindblad> trappist, it is not
[06:58] <nlindblad> trappist, what about the group?
[06:58] <pagux> i rare 2 find girls using linux :-)
[06:58] <nlindblad> trappist, 'admin' ?
[06:58] <ClayG> anyone have anything for modding phones? like pktools pkman etc for linux?
[06:58] <trappist> nlindblad: well that's part of why I pasted it... now you can add it :)  just add an admin group (if it doesn't exist) and add whatever users to that group.
[06:58] <xirtus> hey, does anyone know a good place to find 64 bit programs?
[06:58] <xirtus> at least compatible
[06:58] <pagux> how do i change bootsplash of ubuntu ?
[06:58] <nlindblad> trappist, yepp, but what about the name, should it be 'admin' and does it need a specific UID?
[06:59] <nlindblad> GID
[06:59] <trappist> nlindblad: just 'admin' - you're not specifying a gid in sudoers
[06:59] <sambagirl> isnt it called wiki.org?
[06:59] <nlindblad> trappist, okey then, thanks alot
[06:59] <trappist> sambagirl: maybe you're looking for wiki.ubuntu.com?
[06:59] <sambagirl>  no
[06:59] <sambagirl> i want information on TwistOS
[06:59] <Tuntis> Wikipedia.org?
[07:00] <sambagirl> ahh ok thank you
[07:00] <idefix> is it possible?
[07:00] <pagux> how do i change bootsplash of ubuntu ?
[07:00] <sambagirl> wikipedia.org is not a rightwing trick is it?
[07:00] <Ng> no it's just rubbish ;)
[07:00] <trappist> it is an agent of the bush administration
[07:00] <ClayG> ahh, isn't everything
[07:00] <pagux> its rare 2 find girls using linux :-)
[07:00] <sambagirl> that is my fear
[07:01] <trappist> sambagirl: don't worry.  that was a joke.
[07:01] <korhalf> pagux, i said that too at one point
[07:01] <ClayG> Yeah until going to Efnet?
[07:01] <soundray> Ng, wanna pick a flamewar over my favourite encyclopedia?
[07:01] <sambagirl> ok
[07:01] <soundray> :)
[07:01] <idefix> who is a girl here then?
[07:01] <ClayG> er . I mean, there are loads of girls using Nix, beleive me
[07:01] <bshumate> sambagirl: it is a tool of the forthcoming ministry of information, designed to welcome humans into the new world order, and control by big brother. ;-)
[07:01] <ClayG> heheh
[07:01] <Ng> soundray: nope :)
[07:01] <Red-Sox> snorks?
[07:01] <ClayG> ;)
[07:01] <sambagirl> btb
[07:01] <sambagirl> brb
[07:01] <trappist> bshumate: I think the preferred nomenclature is 'ministry of reeducation'
[07:02] <soundray> idefix, not me, but there's one on my lap.
[07:02] <ClayG> Sup Red-Sox
[07:02] <Red-Sox> ClayG: hi
[07:02] <bshumate> trappist: per 1984? not sure about that...
[07:02] <idefix> is it possible to add programs to "applications/places/system"?
[07:02] <Red-Sox> ClayG: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for a sec
[07:02] <soundray> idefix, I'm sure it's possible
[07:02] <Red-Sox> :)
[07:02] <idefix> soundray: you've been watching too much "Reservoir Dogs"
[07:02] <ClayG> im there cuzin
[07:02] <Jowi> ubu_on_epia, wiki updated. added some more "troubleshooting" and a line or to in the "requirements" secion. hope that will help someone. my email is at the end of the wiki if you feel the need to add/change something.
[07:02] <soundray> idefix, no, I've missed that one so far.
[07:03] <DjLinX> How can i get my wireless usb card to start up activated...
[07:03] <soundray> idefix, and I was telling the truth.
[07:03] <soundray> idefix, my daughter is fascinated by Ubuntu.
[07:03] <_jason> idefix, for app menu: use system tools -> menu editor, for palces menu: add a bookmark in nautilus
[07:03] <soundray> idefix, she's waiting her turn to play gcompris :)
[07:03] <pagux> how do i change boot splash of ubuntu ?
[07:03] <nlindblad> echo "admin:x:1004:nlindblad
[07:03] <nlindblad> " >> /etc/groups
[07:03] <Jemt> Greetz. I have downloaded and extracted Firefox 1.5 myself - and I have now installed Java from repositories - but Firefox still dosn't support Java. How can I make my Firefox use the Java packages from repositories ?
[07:04] <_jason> Jemt, make a symbolic link in the plugins directory
[07:04] <Answer> How can I turn up the logging of file changes system-wide ?
[07:04] <soundray> pagux, you can install xubuntu. The boot screen is nice and blue after that...
[07:04] <Jemt> _jason: How is that done ?
[07:04] <hmpedersen> I cant say im impressed over Xandros.. Especially not their regional settings... (only possible languages being english and american)
[07:04] <Jemt> Please don't let me reboot into Windows - Please! :)
[07:04] <xirtus> so no one knows anywhere to get 64bit programs
[07:04] <xirtus> ?
[07:05] <soundray> xirtus, have you installed Ubuntu-amd64?
[07:05] <soundray> xirtus, it is chock full of 64 bit programs.
[07:05] <idefix> soundray: what is gcompris? is it a fun game?
[07:05] <_jason> Jemt, never :)  do you know where libjavaplugin.so is right now?
[07:06] <soundray> idefix, for children, yes.
[07:06] <Jemt> _jason: Nope :/
[07:06] <hmpedersen> Soundray, you think it would make a difference if i tried downloading the amd64 disc? you did say the normal would install..
[07:06] <DjLinX> Can i change the way the modules are loaded on start up
[07:06] <trappist> I can't believe that after 30 years of life and 12 years of geekhood I'm just now discovering coffee
[07:06] <_jason> Jemt, okay, which java package did you install?
[07:06] <idefix> what games are good for us 29-year-old grandpa's?
[07:06] <Jemt> _jason: 'sun-re1.4' from repositories :)
[07:06] <trappist> idefix: quake4 and ut2004
[07:06] <soundray> hmpedersen, remind me what the trouble was with your install.
[07:07] <Jemt> idefix: Tuxracer and Chromium! :)
[07:07] <_oP> @idefix only game i can suggest is world of warcraft !
[07:07] <idefix> do they run under linux?
[07:07] <soundray> idefix: typespeed. Educational! :)
[07:07] <_jason> Jemt, okay that's blackdown's java right?  I don't know where that one installs to... but let's see if it made a symlink for firefox1.07.  Do you still have firefox1.07?
[07:07] <pagux> soundray: no thanks i like gnome
[07:07] <Jemt> _jason: Blackdown, yes :)
[07:07] <trappist> idefix: yes
[07:07] <pagux> hi just install sun jre
[07:07] <Oblivion^> hello, when i try to play a song with mpd - or any music player for that matter - it gives me nothing but static noise. how can i fix that?
[07:07] <Jemt> _jason: Nope, I removed Firefox 1.0.2
[07:07] <_oP> @idefix but u will need cedega for running that under linux
[07:08] <Jemt> _jason: Ubuntu 5.10 ships with 1.0.2 as fare as I remember
[07:08] <idefix> are the games expensive?
[07:08] <pagux> and make symlink to firefox plugin folder
[07:08] <trappist> idefix: quake4 sure is.  probably ut2004 too.
[07:08] <Jemt> pagux: I'm trying to figure out how :)
[07:08] <hmpedersen> soundtay, it freezes giving some extremely cryptic error messages, that doesnt really say error on a grey screen.. (in a lil darker grey text)
[07:08] <soundray> idefix, free as in speech and beer.
[07:08] <Jemt> pagux: I don't know anything about these symbolic links :)
[07:09] <_jason> Jemt, heh ok, umm let me look some stuff up... it's easier with sun's java
[07:09] <kevin> Is there anyone that can help me with:  I want place a data file on the Ubuntu computer and access it from two Windows 2000 compters.  I can't seem to logon to the Ubuntu computer from Win2k even though it can see it.  it asks for username/password.  even though i have set up users on the Ubuntu, it doesn't accept any log in?
[07:09] <soundray> hmpedersen, yeah, I remember reading this from you earlier.
[07:09] <Jemt> _jason: Ok :)
[07:09] <Jemt> _jason: Thanks :)
[07:09] <soundray> hmpedersen, a "call trace" isn't it?
[07:09] <ClayG> kevin: samba sounds like what you need
[07:09] <soundray> hmpedersen, I don't know what to say to that.
[07:09] <hmpedersen> yeah
[07:09] <trappist> kevin: you need to use smbpasswd to add samba users
[07:09] <ClayG> but there is also another program called explore2fs
[07:09] <diesel> !mplayer
[07:09] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:09] <_jason> Jemt, while I do that, run: sudo updatedb (this will let us search for it)
[07:09] <_oP> @idefix 17.99 plus monthly about 6  
[07:09] <ClayG> I dont know how this works over networks
[07:10] <Jemt> _jason: Ok, great :)
[07:10] <soundray> hmpedersen, but I suspect that amd64 isn't going to solve your problem.
[07:10] <hmpedersen> soundray, well.. i had to install xandros.. Im running out of time.. have a guild meeting in swg in 2 hours, and itll take that long to update the game..
[07:10] <soundray> hmpedersen, what triggers this?
[07:10] <_jason> Jemt, let me know when that finishes
[07:10] <Jemt> _jason: Ok :)
[07:10] <hmpedersen> soundray, well.. its triggered either by sound or graphic during setup..
[07:10] <soundray> hmpedersen, okay, so you've found a workaround.
[07:10] <_oP> but it's damn really worth it!
[07:10] <d03boy> after "upgrading" ubuntu I have two kernels on grub. The new one is 386 and the old is 586. Did I do something wrong?
[07:10] <Tikakan> bye
[07:11] <DjLinX> How can i change the way the modules are loaded on start up
[07:11] <kevin> where can i find smbpasswd?
[07:11] <Jemt> _jason: Done updating slocate database :)
[07:11] <_oP> but be careful, it seems to be addictive
[07:11] <hmpedersen> soundray, yeah.. a workaround involving another system, that i really dont like.. Even though i payed $29 for it..
[07:11] <_jason> Jemt, locate javaplugin_oji.so
[07:12] <soundray> hmpedersen, so you want to go back to Ubuntu when you have time?
[07:12] <d03boy> after "upgrading" ubuntu I have two kernels on grub. The new one is 386 and the old is 586. Did I do something wrong?
[07:12] <hmpedersen> xandros looks nice.. but.. well.. looks can be deceiving..
[07:12] <xirtus>  hey spaced out, yeah i did, and there is, but i need more, like 64bit dvd ripper, ogle or at least menus, gltron or at least some 3d games, i mean honestly, i get get down for this whole socialized software thing, but i need more than just open office and solitare...
[07:12] <Jemt> _jason: I got several lines
[07:12] <soundray> hmpedersen, they trick you into some sort of upgrade contract, don't they?
[07:12] <Jemt> _jason: Query ?
[07:12] <hmpedersen> soundray, im going to have the entire weekend to myself :) Plenty of time to mess around and ruin everything :D
[07:12] <_jason> Jemt, okay, mind pastebinning them?
[07:12] <Jemt> _jason: What is paste binning ?
[07:12] <_jason> !pastebin
[07:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:12] <kyncani> d03boy: if you don't want old packages to stay around, use debfoster. If you want a kernel optimized for your arch, use either linux-586, linux-686, ...
[07:13] <Jemt> !pastebin
[07:13] <hmpedersen> soundray, well.. only way to get xandros is to buy it.. updates are free..
[07:13] <Jemt> Thanks :)
[07:13] <nlindblad> wee
[07:13] <nlindblad> sudo works again
[07:13] <soundray> hmpedersen, I assume your machine is unusable when it shows the call trace. Perhaps you should be ready to take a screenshot (with a proper camera) and pastebin it when you try the install again.
[07:14] <hmpedersen> yeah
[07:14] <d03boy> kyncani, ok, I have the 386 installed, but lets say I want to install mplayer. Do I get the 386 one or the 586 one or the 686 one?
[07:14] <d03boy> basically, does the program depend on the kerenl arch or not?
[07:14] <idefix> whatever happened to cool games like flashback on the CAmiga?
[07:14] <kyncani> d03boy: 386 is generic, 586 is optimized for pentium, 686 for pentium-4 and above i think
[07:14] <hmpedersen> heh.. reminds me of the tech that asked the user to take a screenshot of his desktop.. An hour later the user faxed a picture of his desktop with computer on it to the tech..
[07:15] <Jemt> _jason: Hmm, how do I copy from a terminal ?
[07:15] <Jemt> _jason: xterm og Eterm
[07:15] <kevin> Can anyone tell me where/how to invoke smbpasswd?
[07:15] <d03boy> kyncani, but if my kernel isnt optimized, will the program itself still be optimized? how does that work?
[07:15] <mebsd> smbpasswd
[07:15] <_jason> Jemt, try highlighting and then middle clicking to paste
[07:15] <mebsd> do you ever read manual? kevin
[07:15] <Jemt> mebsd: That dosn't enable the user - only assignes a password - try man
[07:15] <kyncani> d03boy: don't worry, it works :)
[07:15] <_oP> have a question what is best for athlon 3000+ 200 fsb, i have a kernel for 386 what is the difference to 586?
[07:15] <soundray> hmpedersen, "What's on your monitor right now?" "A pot of flowers"...
[07:15] <kevin> where is the manual?
[07:16] <mebsd> man smbpasswd
[07:16] <Jemt> _jason: Dosn't work - probably because it's a scroll-button
[07:16] <d03boy> kyncani, ok, one more thing. Thanks.
[07:16] <kevin> thanks
[07:16] <Jemt> _jason: Never mind - typing them myself :)
[07:16] <hmpedersen> soundray heh
[07:16] <Oblivion^> how come i get nothing but white noise when i try to play an mp3 file ?
[07:16] <LoPMX> hmm, is there any way to increase the speed of ajax requests? i mean, it's blazingly fast on let's say google, and on my page it works pretty slow, my boss gets nervous about this
[07:16] <_jason> Jemt, try middle clicking in gedit
[07:16] <Jemt> Ok
[07:16] <trappist> _oP: i586 has a bigger instruction set, and you'll see a little performance increase in apps compiled for i586.  especially graphics stuff.
[07:17] <_jason> Jemt, or 'cd ~/Desktop' and then: 'locate javaplugin_oji.so > results.txt'
[07:17] <_oP> @trappist cool thanks good to know
[07:17] <pagux> any hot babes here using linux ;-)
[07:17] <hmpedersen> soundray, wonder how long itll be before a fossil like me is not considered fit to use a computer anymore :P
[07:17] <LoPMX> ehhh not here
[07:17] <trappist> _oP: you could do even better compiling for athlon
[07:17] <Jemt> _jason: Oh yea, better :)
[07:17] <d03boy> is it easy to config my kernel to be optimized for i586?
[07:17] <hmpedersen> cant even remember what i did to make xandr install this time..
[07:17] <diesel> !w32codecs
[07:18] <Jemt> _jason: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5785
[07:18] <kyncani> d03boy: well, as easy as installing linux-586 :)
[07:18] <kyncani> d03boy: nothing to configure :)
[07:18] <soundray> pagux, wasn't there once a Linux distro for girls? With a fortune db displaying beauty tips on login?
[07:18] <_oP> cheers need some more booz
[07:19] <d03boy> kyncani, well, I used apt-get dist-upgrade and it installed a 386 kernel when I have a P4
[07:19] <mmarle> #edubuntu
[07:19] <soundray> d03boy, apt-get install linux-686
[07:20] <mebsd> compile your own kernel
[07:20] <foxpaul> hi all. i've posted a thread in ubuntu forums, but still struggling. can anyone take a look at it and maybe comment? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=576844&posted=1#post576844
[07:20] <kyncani> d03boy: to use a 586 linux kernel, first install linux-586, then boot it, then remove linux-386 (and use debfoster to clean old kernel)
[07:20] <d03boy> mebsd, i'm too scared
[07:20] <_jason> Jemt, strange, I see no blackdown... um do 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so'
[07:20] <cowbud> mebsd meh why?
[07:20] <mebsd> don't be scare
[07:20] <Jemt> _jason: Ok
[07:20] <mebsd> scared of what
[07:20] <_oP> @mebsd risky risky
[07:20] <mebsd> linux is about that big kernel
[07:20] <d03boy> scared that I will break it, then not have time to fix it before class
[07:21] <SanderD> I've got 4 primary partitions now, but I want a fifth partition. can I remove one, change that into an extended partition and insert two logical partitions in it?
[07:21] <idefix> are sh-files like exe-files in windows/dos?
[07:21] <_jason> Jemt, you can paste that here, it should only be one line
[07:21] <cowbud> idefix more like .bat files
[07:21] <idefix> ic
[07:21] <trappist> foxpaul: need more information than that.  for example, are these boxes on the same network? how are you trying to connect? etc.
[07:21] <mebsd> sh-file is more like bat-like
[07:21] <kyncani> d03boy: it won't break, but if now is not a good time, "upgrade" later
[07:21] <d03boy> ok
[07:22] <Jemt> _jason: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5787
[07:22] <Oblivion^> what stuff do i need to play mp3 files in bash?
[07:22] <wij> kyncani                          can i use 686 on a sempron socket A model 8 ?
[07:22] <_jason> Jemt, do you *want* to use blackdown?  because I don't see it, but you have sun's java there
[07:22] <cowbud> Oblivion^ play filename.mp3
[07:23] <d03boy> wij, what the hell is a sempron?
[07:23] <Jemt> _jason: I just want the Java that is installed :)
[07:23] <trappist> wij: I believe 686 is intel-specific
[07:23] <cowbud> Oblivion^ although I don't know if that is installed by default give it a go..
[07:23] <Jemt> _jason: .. from repositories :)
[07:23] <wij> Sempron is AMD
[07:23] <_jason> Jemt, ok, where did you put firefox?
[07:23] <Oblivion^> cowbud: i want to run mpd, and when i play an mp3 file with mpg321 or mpd it gives me nothing but white noise
[07:23] <soundray> wij, you want to optimize for k7
[07:23] <Jemt> _jason: /programs/firefox/
[07:23] <trappist> !tell Oblivion^ about mp3
[07:24] <Ricker> I'm trying to connect to my ubuntu box after setting up a home folder with read/write permission as per the ubuntu instructions.  I editing the smb.conf file, I can see the server in my XP box, but when I try to login with the same account that I use when I login to the ubuntu box, XP just keeps bringing the authentication/password box back up as if I'm not getting the password right.  any ideas?
[07:24] <Jemt> _jason: Yes, I know it is an odd place :)
[07:24] <trappist> Ricker: you need to use smbpasswd to set up samba users
[07:24] <Oblivion^> trappist: isn't that only for X?
[07:24] <trappist> no
[07:24] <_jason> Jemt, ln -s /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so /programs/firefox/plugins/
[07:24] <Ricker> trappist. oh ok...I never did that... I wish that was in the ubuntu userguide
[07:25] <_jason> Jemt, close firefox
[07:25] <Oblivion^> trappist: because i've tried that and it wanted to install about 100 packages extra with a total of 108 mb, so i thought it was some x thing
[07:25] <Jemt> _jason: Ok, trying that :)
[07:25] <trappist> Oblivion^: yeah there are a lot of dependencies
[07:25] <Oblivion^> trappist: ah, ok, i'll hit yes then
[07:26] <Jemt> _jason: Done - testing firefox now..
[07:26] <Oblivion^> trappist: oh now i see, most of it is perl. but it wants gtk too
[07:26] <Jemt> _jason: Wohoo, It works. Great ! You are 'l33t' :)
[07:26] <_jason> Jemt, ha ok
[07:27] <canindya> anybody developing struts application in eclipse on ubuntu?
[07:27] <Jemt> _jason: Thank you SO much for using this much time on me :)
[07:27] <Ricker> trappist: I issued sudo smbpasswd, it asked me for the password twice which I entered.  It accepted it and put me back to the prompt.  I still get the same problem when I try to login.  to I need to restart the samba server?
[07:27] <_jason> Jemt, np
[07:27] <_oP> a noob question what would i have to learn if i wanted to create a cd like the ubuntu live cd so i can play my favorite games on ms stations without having to install something?
[07:27] <trappist> Ricker: I assume you're trying to connect with your own username and the password you just entered?
[07:28] <cowbud> _op google knoppix customization there are lots of pages out htere on how to do it..
[07:28] <soundray> _oP, you should look at the dfsbuild package
[07:28] <trappist> Ricker: oh! if you just do sudo smbpasswd you'll be running it as root and adding a root entry.  sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
[07:28] <Ricker> trappist: right on ok I'll try that
[07:29] <Oblivion^> trappist: it s x, it's installing x-common, x11 and gnome aswell
[07:30] <_oP> yeah  ,thanks
[07:30] <kane__> http://home.erin.utoronto.ca/~jbonham/linuxwarez.html for anyone who's bored just like me... It's log of irc session how one guy tries to get a warez site where he can download FULL version of Debian (he doesn't want free one :D)
[07:30] <einPaule> Hello, I need some assistance. I have installed my printer(ip4000) a couple of times, it works after installing, but on restart it wont react to my printing
[07:30] <u|qos> whats the ubuntu livecd default admin pw?
[07:30] <DjLinX> I need help with usb networking... does anyone know about this
[07:30] <einPaule> ive tried setting the printers.conf URI to lp0, the only usb device detected
[07:30] <d03boy> lmfao @ usbnetworking
[07:31] <freenik> u|qos: forget root, if you need root right, use sudo <command> ...
[07:31] <bshumate> u|qos: i think you use sudo w/o a passwd on the livecd
[07:31] <trappist> Oblivion^: was this a server install or something?
[07:31] <u|qos> thx, to u both
[07:32] <Oblivion^> trappist: yes
[07:32] <idefix> a jar-file is like a zip-file?
[07:32] <trappist> oh, well I don't guess it surprises me that it wants some gtk stuff, which would want gnome stuff, which would want X stuff
[07:32] <bshumate> idefix: yes
[07:32] <Ricker> trappist: set the samba password for the user and WOOHOO!!!!  it's works!!!!  proud moment to be able to see a linux box from a windows pc!!!!  (I know, I should be using linux all around the board, but give me time)
[07:33] <trappist> Oblivion^: that's probably a minor flaw in that documentation.  obviously mp3 codecs by themselves shouldn't have dependencies like that, but I don't know which packages contain just the codecs
[07:33] <trappist> Ricker: awesome :)
[07:33] <diesel> Ricker: cool!
[07:33] <cowbud> mpg123 should be able to play mp3s without shit like gstreamer.
[07:33] <idefix> congrats
[07:33] <Oblivion^> trappist: that's an 108 mb flaw then :P
[07:33] <trappist> cowbud: pretty much
[07:33] <malcolmk> hello got here looking for info/advice?
[07:33] <trappist> Oblivion^: that's nothing.  I grabbed over a gig with apt-get in one command last night :)
[07:34] <cowbud> trappist: it doesn't even link to gstreamer
[07:34] <cowbud> it uses libmad..
[07:34] <soundray> malcolmk, just ask
[07:34] <Ricker> linux makes computers fun again
[07:34] <Oblivion^> trappist: it's something if your hd is only 2.6 gigs :)
[07:34] <malcolmk> got no sound and looking at forums it seems I need to upgrade the kernal from the 386 to 1.6.10.12 or something?
[07:34] <malcolmk> can I download a kernel upgrade?
[07:34] <Oblivion^> trappist: guess i'll just have to be patient 'till my real server finally arrives..
[07:34] <trappist> cowbud: reminds me of my mandrake days when I'd try to install nmap on a server and it would pull down a whole desktop
[07:34] <e-head> Hey guys, I'm having VNC issues. I have set the variable $vncStartup = /home/e-head/.xinitrc; in my .vncrc file, yet my window manager doesn't seem to get started up.
[07:34] <soundray> malcolmk, is this ubuntu?
[07:34] <malcolmk> yes
[07:34] <cowbud> trappist yah well that is mandrake probably packaging xnmap also..
[07:35] <trappist> cowbud: nmapfe, yea
[07:35] <trappist> h
[07:35] <soundray> malcolmk, what do you get when you enter 'uname -a' in a command line?
[07:35] <anca> join #<alej>
[07:35] <malcolmk> dont know anything , just downloaded ubuntu installed to try
[07:36] <malcolmk> is that in the terminal app?
[07:36] <soundray> malcolmk, yes
[07:36] <malcolmk> will do it now
[07:36] <gentoome> HELLO ALL :)  I'm tryin to inst ubuntu on an old laptop but I only got 32mb ram
[07:36] <trappist> ouch
[07:36] <mebsd> install netbsd
[07:37] <malcolmk> soundray I get Linux malcolmklinux 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:37] <foxpaul> trappist, they're on the same network yes
[07:37] <gentoome> anyone use Gnoppix?
[07:37] <soundray> malcolmk, your kernel is fine. You don't need to upgrade.
[07:37] <kane__> how do I install rpm package?
[07:38] <soundray> malcolmk, what kind of sound are you trying to play?
[07:38] <trappist> kane__: use alien to convert it to a .deb, if you must install an rpm
[07:38] <foxpaul> trappist, the wlan on the server is a different subnet from the eth0, and the wlan on the client is on the same subnet as the wlan on server
[07:38] <malcolmk> the speaker icon at top right does not even open, and in sound no default card is shown?
[07:38] <malcolmk> have soundblaster, any sound will do  cant even see card!
[07:38] <kane__> trappist what is the command options to convert?
[07:38] <soundray> malcolmk, okay, so your sound card is not detected. Is it an ISA card?
[07:39] <malcolmk> pci
[07:39] <trappist> kane__: man alien
[07:39] <soundray> malcolmk, have you activated it in the BIOS?
[07:39] <kane__> trappist sorry I'm asking too much questions... (but I'm a n00b) :D
[07:39] <h2g2> Hi.i want to change the login screen that comes with gdm from the current brown looking one. where do i get new ones and how to install them?
[07:39] <diesel> sshfs is the best thing since sliced bread
[07:39] <malcolmk> plays fine on xp, got a duel boot system and fine always in windows xp
[07:40] <trappist> kane__: it's ok :)  I just figured I don't use alien, so I'd have to refer to the man page, and you can do that just as easily
[07:40] <MikeG> Is there a firefox 1.5 upgrade available? If not, when?
[07:40] <einPaule> Can anyone tell me why the System/Administration/printer Dialog shows me two Printers (allthough I only have one there) and dev/usb shows none?
[07:40] <soundray> malcolmk, okay.
[07:40] <soundray> malcolmk, in the command line, can you enter 'lsmod | grep snd' and tell me how many lines of output (if any)?
[07:40] <malcolmk> do i need to edit a config file somewhere?
[07:41] <hmpedersen> Right.. I do a google for xandros language packs.. And get kubuntu 5.10!
[07:41] <soundray> malcolmk, no, let's try and find out why it's not autodetected first.
[07:42] <malcolmk> 13 lines
[07:43] <malcolmk> you want me to cut and paste it?
[07:43] <soundray> malcolmk, enter 'dmesg' and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[07:44] <e-head> anybody here ?
[07:44] <SpikeyLozenge> Hello
[07:44] <e-head> Hey, my client was acting wacky.  :)
[07:45] <SpikeyLozenge> Anybody mind answering a Support Question Relating to OSS?
[07:46] <Ricker> Is there something I need to do in order for me to see my default website in apache?  I've got Phpinfo.php script working from my /var/www/ folder, but I created a file called index.html in the same folder and when I try to view it from a remote machine I am told that "you are not authorized to view this page" from IE in windoze.  The index.html file just contains: <html><head><title>Title of page</title></head><body>(Down today for
[07:46] <Ricker> system maintenance.  Thank you for your patience.)</body></html>
[07:46] <soundray> SpikeyLozenge, just ask, then we'll see if anybody minds.
[07:46] <SpikeyLozenge> ^_^
[07:47] <trappist> Ricker: chmod a+r index.html
[07:47] <trappist> Ricker: or chown -R www-data /var/www
[07:47] <Ricker> trappist: wow, way over my head.  what does chown do?
[07:47] <SpikeyLozenge> When Selecting OSS From the Multimedia Systems Selector and testing, I get an error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'" Any Ideas?
[07:47] <trappist> Ricker: changes the owner of a file/directory
[07:48] <anatole_> when configuring a kernel, if i set something's support as a module, will it run without doing anything else? (of course compiling the kernel and etc)
[07:48] <semox> ricker: change the files owner
[07:48] <soundray> malcolmk, the 13 lines of output from above -- do they relate to bttv?
[07:48] <trappist> Ricker: www-data is the user apache runs as, so you want those files to be owned by him
[07:48] <malcolmk> pasted
[07:48] <Ricker> trappist ahhhhh ok
[07:48] <malcolmk> whats bttv?
[07:48] <trappist> anatole_: some modules will get loaded automatically.  others need to be loaded manually or added to /etc/modules
[07:48] <soundray> malcolmk, your TV card.
[07:48] <trappist> malcolmk: driver for tv tuner cards
[07:49] <malcolmk> do have a tv card in there, pinnacle
[07:49] <soundray> malcolmk, 'lsmod | grep snd'
[07:49] <Nei> I am currently using windows but I'd like to check out ubuntu; however I am using a special input device that appears as a joystick. I didn't have any luck getting X to accept it, would maybe someone know a solution?
[07:49] <soundray> malcolmk, lots of 'bttv' strings in there?
[07:49] <trappist> or lspci
[07:49] <anatole_> trappist: and if i set it to include it in the kernel, will it run with no problem?
[07:49] <anatole_> or what is the usually preferred way?
[07:49] <sambagirl> i have a question is off topic but i just reading about US Cybersecurity Czar post created. Why is there Czars in democracy? They have Czar of homland security too i think. Just curious. sorry.
[07:49] <anatole_> (btw its the support of my raid chipset)
[07:50] <malcolmk> want me to paste that output ?
[07:50] <foxpaul> i'm trying to setup my network in ad-hoc mode, but is there a way to set it up with the server wlan card being an AP?
[07:50] <Ricker> trappist: out of curiosity, who is the default owner of /var/www/ before I ussue the chown command?  root?
[07:50] <soundray> Thanks trappist
[07:50] <trappist> anatole_: there are a FEW modules that really want to be modules, but mostly yeah, you can say y.  'preferred' is subjective.  if you include it, your kernel will be bigger, you may lose some flexibility etc., but if it's a module it may require extra effort to make it work.
[07:50] <trappist> Ricker: probably
[07:50] <soundray> malcolmk, no, paste the output of lspci, that'll be more useful.
[07:50] <sambagirl> is there a channel i can talk about this stuff anyone know?
[07:51] <anatole_> trappist: thank you
[07:51] <trappist> sambagirl: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:51] <sambagirl> thanks
[07:52] <mcphail> Ricker: www-data is the default owner, but your index.html was probably created as root
[07:52] <malcolmk> ok pasted that
[07:52] <malcolmk> shows my nvidia graphic card
[07:53] <Ricker> mcphail: so by issuing command chown -R www-data /var/www
[07:53] <Ricker> , will that set the permissions for index.html then?
[07:53] <Ricker> oops...hit enter by accident in the middle of that last message
[07:53] <amz0r> that will set read permission on everything in /var/www
[07:54] <malcolmk> the soundblaster shows as ensonique 5880 pci
[07:54] <Ricker> amz0r: ok cool
[07:54] <tiris> does anyone know if there is support for the sony minidisc products in this distro?
[07:54] <tiris> or in linux at all?
[07:54] <amz0r> g2g, later
[07:54] <SpikeyLozenge> Later
[07:54] <mcphail> Ricker: the -R tells it to recurse through the directories
[07:54] <soundray> malcolmk, let's see if the relevant module is loaded. The name is snd-ens1371
[07:55] <soundray> malcolmk, so do a 'lsmod | grep 1371' and see if you get any output.
[07:55] <Ricker> mcphail: wow so much to learn.  Thanks!
[07:56] <malcolmk> yep
[07:56] <malcolmk> paste it?
[07:56] <soundray> malcolmk, no, if it's there, it's there.
[07:56] <purplefeltangel> can someone tell me which Solitaire game in FrecellSolitaire is the same as the Microsoft one, if any?
[07:56] <Neurosis> whats a good place for free ftp space?
[07:57] <malcolmk> first line does contain a zero in one field? is ok ?
[07:58] <soundray> malcolmk, is the loaded module called ens1371 or snd-ens1371?
[07:59] <SpikeyLozenge> I hate to ask again, but I'll post it one more time... When Selecting OSS From the Multimedia Systems Selector and Testing, I get an error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'  Any Ideas? Sorry to Pest...
[07:59] <malcolmk> snd_ens1371
[07:59] <chombee> Hello - I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to use GNOME panel applets such as the weather applet or trash applet in OpenBox, say with PyPanel?
[07:59] <pipeline> SpikeyLozenge: What that most likely means is that your sound card is simply not working out with linux.  Have you tried selecting Alsa?
[08:00] <foxpaul> does anyone know how i configure hostap to use my wlan card as an access point?
[08:00] <soundray> malcolmk, please paste the output of lsmod (the whole lot) as before.
[08:00] <mcphail> SpikeyLozenge: it's usually a bonus when OSS doesn't work
[08:01] <malcolmk> pasted ok
[08:01] <SpikeyLozenge> I have, and it works great.  QuakeIII However uses OSS Correct?  The Real Question is why i have no sound in Quake3, but I was trying not to be such a noob.  ^_^
[08:01] <selinium> What is the command line for changing FLAC files to WAVs? I only need the app
[08:01] <kevin> Help?  I can access the Ubuntu computer with the Win2K computer via Samba but can't copy any data files there...no access rights.  Where do I set those?  I have gone to the folder in the Ubuntu computer and set the rights via "properties" but that doesn't do it...??
[08:01] <Neurosis> whats a good ftp server i can use on my ubuntu?
[08:02] <stozka> kevin, maybe share on win2k is read only
[08:02] <stozka> then you have nothing to set on your site
[08:02] <mcphail> SpikeyLozenge: does aoss work?
[08:03] <stozka> ups, it's vice versa
[08:03] <techrush> hi guys
[08:03] <mitch_> How Do i watch mpg wmv and avi movies?   I cant get them to work,  i instaleld the gstreamer package but how do i find it?  theres nothing in multimedia folder ?
[08:03] <SpikeyLozenge>  I don't have that option.
[08:04] <trappist> !tell mitch about w32codecs
[08:04] <SpikeyLozenge> I have ALSA, Artsd, ESD, and OSS
[08:04] <mcphail> SpikeyLozenge: aoss quake3
[08:04] <mitch_> w32codecs ?   what are those?
[08:04] <trappist> mitch_: codecs from windows for playing various kinds of media
[08:04] <mcphail> aoss = alsa wrapper for oss
[08:04] <SpikeyLozenge> I'll try it
[08:05] <pipeline> SpikeyLozenge: There's also a kernel driver that emulates OSS using Alsa
[08:05] <mitch_> trappist : what program are the codecs for?
[08:05] <pipeline> SpikeyLozenge: try loading snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss
[08:06] <soundray> malcolmk, can you do a ls -l /dev/dsp and paste the output here please
[08:06] <SpikeyLozenge> I tried the command 'aoss quake3' and I get the 'command: aoos not found'
[08:06] <trappist> mitch_: whatever can use them.  like xine and mplayer.
[08:06] <mitch_> totem?
[08:06] <kevin> stozka:  the win2k system is accessing the file on the Ubuntu computer.  the rights on the Ubuntu is what is not set?
[08:06] <SpikeyLozenge> i'll try those, thanks!
[08:06] <trappist> mitch_: not sure.  I don't use totem.
[08:06] <malcolmk> ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[08:06] <SpikeyLozenge> I'm off to Eat Chinese.  ROCK!
[08:07] <mitch_> can i load mplayer from symantic?
[08:07] <_jason> ubotu, tell mitch_ about mplayer
[08:07] <trappist> mitch_: if you mean synaptic, yes
[08:07] <soundray> malcolmk, interesting. How about ls -l /dev/audio?
[08:08] <malcolmk> same no such file or directory
[08:08] <trappist> sounds like no sound drivers.  or the wrong ones.
[08:08] <korhalf> does anyone know why ssh -X host still doesn't do x11 forwarding?
[08:08] <soundray> trappist, drivers are loaded automatically and match the card...
[08:09] <Nei> maybe the server doesn\t allow forwarding
[08:09] <trappist> korhalf: I wish I did.
[08:09] <korhalf> i mean, i try to open something like xine and its telling me can't open display, what gives?
[08:09] <korhalf> Nei: well it's my box at home, so how would i enable it?
[08:09] <trappist> korhalf: ssh-forwarded xine would be a nightmare anyway
[08:09] <soundray> trappist, do you think it's any use to create the devices with mknod?
[08:09] <korhalf> trappist: no i know, but just as a test :P
[08:09] <korhalf> trappist: i couldnt think of any other graphical apps to run
[08:09] <trappist> soundray: they should be created automatically if the right driver is loaded.  I haven't been paying attention, what sound card is this?
[08:10] <Nei> korhalf, probably in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or whereever your distribution chose to put the ssh config file :)?
[08:10] <korhalf> im using ubuntu like 90 percent of the people here are anyway :P
[08:10] <soundray> trappist, Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
[08:10] <malcolmk> card is soundblaster
[08:10] <trappist> malcolmk: what kind of soundblaster
[08:10] <malcolmk> 128
[08:10] <soundray> trappist, Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
[08:11] <trappist> eh
[08:11] <soundray> trappist, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5789
[08:11] <trappist> which one is it!
[08:11] <korhalf> Nei: x11 forwarding is set to yes.
[08:11] <e-head> Anybody here use truecrypt ?
[08:11] <cristian> esta papa mario?????
[08:11] <soundray> trappist, don't listen to malcolmk, he doesn't know what his problem is :)
[08:11] <trappist> yep sure looks like the ensoniq :)
[08:11] <korhalf> cristian: parles espagnol? joines #ubuntu-sp
[08:11] <malcolmk> i know what my soundcard is its stamped all over the driver disk
[08:12] <_jason> !es
[08:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:12] <cristian> y que???
[08:12] <korhalf> oh its es.
[08:12] <Nei> korhalf, are you sure you have the necessary programs installed?
[08:12] <esj> I'm getting a series of errors that follow the pattern:  /etc/resolvconf/update-libc.d/postfix exited with return code 1
[08:12] <soundray> malcolmk, never mind what it's been sold to you as.
[08:12] <korhalf> Nei: okay, i have ubuntu at home, and ubuntu here
[08:12] <esj> any ideas on what could be causing it?
[08:12] <korhalf> Nei: i have an x server here, forwarding SHOULD work
[08:12] <picasso> can anyone recommend a decent html editor (or general purpose editor) for someone used to like TextPad ?
[08:12] <soundray> malcolmk, we have to make it work as what it really is :)
[08:12] <trappist> soundray: do you happen to know what driver supports that card?
[08:12] <korhalf> picasso: gedit, or vim if you want to feel like a hacker
[08:13] <soundray> trappist, the one that's loaded - snd_ens1371
[08:13] <Nei> korhalf, you also need to have xauth
[08:13] <picasso> korhalf: i am uber leet vim haxor already, this is for friend :)
[08:13] <soundray> trappist, lsmod is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5790
[08:13] <korhalf> picasso: heh, alright :D
[08:13] <korhalf> Nei: on which machine? both?
[08:13] <picasso> really, gedit is best?
[08:13] <picasso> it dont got much for features
[08:13] <korhalf> picasso: what do you mean,  you can sete it to highlight html keywords.
[08:14] <korhalf> picasso: what mor edo you need?
[08:14] <picasso> yea i spose
[08:14] <cristian> esta papa mario????????????????????????????????
[08:14] <picasso> search/replace not that powerful
[08:14] <korhalf> cristian: #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <picasso> i dono
[08:14] <trappist> soundray: you're sure that's the right driver?
[08:14] <korhalf> picasso: then vim is good
[08:14] <korhalf> picasso: or emacs
[08:14] <picasso> yeah, i guess there's not much there for the power-gui-editor user :)
[08:14] <korhalf> Nei: i have xauth on both machines.
[08:14] <soundray> trappist, no, but the kernel thinks so.
[08:14] <trappist> soundray: do we have dmesg output from when he loaded the driver?
[08:15] <korhalf> picasso: you either have gui or power, and i guess gvim is a suitable replacement then.
[08:15] <Nei> korhalf, it sounds like it should work ;) dunno sorry
[08:15] <korhalf> picasso: you're friend should become accustomed to the shell though, its what makes linux, linux
[08:15] <picasso> yeah
[08:15] <korhalf> picasso: your*
[08:15] <arrik> what's the command to allow access to my windows partitions? right now only root can view it
[08:15] <korhalf> Nei: thanks anyway man, i appreciate it
[08:15] <soundray> trappist, full dmesg on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5788 , but nothing I can see relates to the driver loading.
[08:15] <korhalf> arrik: you have to put your user group in /etc/fstab
[08:15] <arrik> korhalf how do i do thta?
[08:16] <trappist> soundray: was the driver loaded manually or at boot?
[08:16] <soundray> trappist, malcolmk, ahh, now I see it.
[08:16] <soundray> ENS1371: probe of 0000:00:0a.0 failed with error -16
[08:17] <malcolmk> see what ?
[08:17] <korhalf> arrik: edit your /etc/fstab.
[08:17] <soundray> malcolmk, in your dmesg output, an error message relating to your sound driver.
[08:18] <korhalf> arrik: /dev/hdd1 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdd1) ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[08:18] <korhalf> arrik: thats what i have in my /etc/fstab, you can change where its being mounted and also, what partition your mounting
[08:18] <soundray> malcolmk, I suggest you remove the camera. I think it conflicts with the sound card.
[08:18] <korhalf> arrik: create a directory called windows in /media, then just put that in your fstab and it should work
[08:19] <soundray> malcolmk, sounds weird, but other people have had this kind of trouble: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg06916.html
[08:19] <korhalf> arrik: /dev/partition /media/windows ...etc
[08:19] <korhalf> !mount
[08:19] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:19] <varsendagger> what is the difference between x11 and xorg?
[08:19] <korhalf> !windowsdrives
[08:19] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:19] <malcolmk> ok will remove it, should i need to reboot then ?
[08:19] <soundray> malcolmk, reboot the machine without the camera, yes.
[08:19] <arrik> korhalf  hda1 (my windows partition) is already at /media/hda1   but only root can read it
[08:20] <malcolmk> ok back in a mo
[08:20] <mcphail> varsendagger: xorg is an implementation of x11
[08:20] <korhalf> arrik: look at what i put, i put user, so that user can access.
[08:20] <korhalf> arrik: im telling you, put what i put, and itll mount every time and give it user access.
[08:22] <arrik> k
[08:22] <NCLife> seveas, sorry could you give me your page again? i cant remember it :(
[08:23] <rockin_stan> NCLife, google?
[08:23] <NCLife> yes, i guess ill have to
[08:23] <NCLife> lol
[08:24] <Stormx2> is ubotu still ill?
[08:24] <jgrieves> ubotu tell jgrieves about ubotu
[08:24] <Albe-T> Type /server irc.Undermex.org 6667  and join to #Cservice
[08:24] <soundray> Stormx2, looks like he's his normal self again.
[08:24] <jgrieves> !FF15
[08:24] <ubotu> jgrieves: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:24] <malcolmk> soundray : still no card shown in preferences /sound
[08:24] <jgrieves> he seems ok
[08:25] <korhalf> yes 2 1/2 feet of snow up here!
[08:25] <korhalf> ontario, canada, god bless, hopefully a snow day
[08:25] <bolrod> :)
[08:25] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[08:25] <ubotu> :)
[08:25] <pipeline> goddamn I hate snow
[08:25] <Stormx2> :D
[08:25] <fastly> hey i managed to get wifi working on my ipw2200, however it didn't work with the WEP key switched on
[08:25] <bolrod> we only have rain
[08:25] <pipeline> snow is proof that there cannot possibly be an omnibenevolent creator
[08:25] <pipeline> a loving god would not curse us so
[08:25] <soundray> malcolmk, 'dmesg | grep 1371' ?
[08:25] <bolrod> 18
[08:25] <fastly> i would quite like to use WEP to stop my neighbours from rootin through my network
[08:25] <Stuttergart> Does anyone know what software is being used to run wiki.ubuntu.com?
[08:25] <fastly> anyone here got it working?
[08:26] <Stuttergart> Is the ubuntu site still Plone based?
[08:26] <malcolmk> failed with error 16
[08:26] <NCLife> oh, now i remeber, the mirror was not working, seveas! i need your page :P
[08:26] <NCLife> well, if your there of course
[08:26] <malcolmk> malcolmk@malcolmklinux:~$ dmesg | grep 1371
[08:26] <malcolmk> [4294709.778000]  ENS1371: probe of 0000:00:0a.0 failed with error -16
[08:26] <bshumate> Stuttergart: i think the Wiki is MoinMoin, but not 100% sure
[08:26] <soundray> malcolmk, I think you still have a device conflict.
[08:27] <soundray> malcolmk, would it be difficult to boot without the TV card?
[08:27] <varsendagger> mcphail, thacks
[08:27] <malcolmk> yes have to take it out
[08:27] <varsendagger> thanks
[08:27] <malcolmk> can i disable tvcard from device manager?
[08:28] <trappist> malcolmk: not the same thing.  if it's an irq conflict it's a hardware problem.
[08:28] <Stuttergart> bshumate: I see. MoinMoin isn't a Plone product though, correct?
[08:28] <soundray> malcolmk, no, that won't solve it. Give me another minute to stfw please.
[08:28] <Stuttergart> It looks like PHP or something.
[08:28] <picatta> how do i install the shockwaves player from macromedia?
[08:29] <trappist> picatta: you'll need something like crossover office for that
[08:29] <NCLife> !tell NCLife csi
[08:29] <NCLife> O.O
[08:29] <korhalf> if i dont have access to gui, is it still possible to make ssh start on bootup?
[08:29] <picatta> trappist, and that means?
[08:29] <NCLife> !tell csi
[08:29] <trappist> picatta: it means there's no linux version, so you need windows virtualization
[08:29] <pipeline> korhalf: sure
[08:29] <picatta> okey :)
[08:30] <NCLife> !tell sci
[08:30] <pipeline> picatta: shockwave, as a browser plugin, works fine in wine
[08:30] <bimberi> NCLife: /msg ubotu csi
[08:30] <_jason> korhalf, it always starts on boot
[08:30] <khermans> Can someone tell me how to make it so that my networking utility does not change my /etc/resolv.conf?  I want it to always be the same nameservers
[08:30] <NCLife> thanks :P
[08:30] <_jason> korhalf, by default anyway
[08:30] <varsendagger> hey how do i get two programs to play sound at the same time?  i remember seeing a esd fix but i don't remember
[08:30] <bimberi> NCLife: np :)
[08:30] <vince__>  /join #wifi
[08:31] <_jason> varsendagger, if they're both using esd, it should work... works over here anyway
[08:31] <bshumate> Stuttergart: the wiki is definitely Python / MoinMoin : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/credits?highlight=%28moinmoin%29
[08:31] <varsendagger> _jason, i use alsa how do i tell the programs to use esd?
[08:31] <pipeline> varsendagger: instead of esd, you can enable dmix
[08:31] <soundray> malcolmk, could you paste the output of 'cat /proc/interrupts' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:32] <_jason> pipeline, how would one do that?  I would like to rid myself of esd
[08:32] <varsendagger> pipeline, do i just run it in the term or what?
[08:32] <pipeline> _jason, varsendagger : google for a canned configuration
[08:33] <zandaa> how I burn a VCD in linux?
[08:34] <Stormx2> zandaa: gnome-baker might do it
[08:34] <Stormx2> zandaa: let me see.
[08:34] <zandaa> Stormx2, it can only burn data and audo
[08:34] <malcolmk> sent it
[08:34] <Stormx2> Ah bummer
[08:34] <Stormx2> Not sure then.
[08:36] <DRK13> orly
[08:36] <bimberi> khermans: try adding a line like " dns-nameservers x.x.x.x y.y.y.y" to your iface clause(s) in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:36] <Stormx2> Hmm. How do I find out what apps are using internet?
[08:36] <soundray> malcolmk, there seems to be no easier way -- boot without the TV card and see if the sound works.
[08:36] <bimberi> s/" /"/
[08:37] <soundray> malcolmk, if it does, that proves that there is a resource conflict.
[08:37] <sewoyl> hi! one quick question to answer a friend ... when doing the partition resizing on install, is the percentage you have to type in the space to allocate to ubuntu or the space to leave to windows ?(i don't know because I always repartition my disk myself)
[08:37] <soundray> malcolmk, sometimes you have to do some black magic -- put the TV card in another slot
[08:37] <VIPER^|^> hello there
[08:37] <soundray> malcolmk, or play with the BIOS PCI resource settings...
[08:38] <malcolmk> got to dismantle so may have to wait untill tomorrow, will try it and see, thanks for the help and the time you spent with me
[08:38] <VIPER^|^> nybody has an idea about sks errors of  compilation
[08:38] <malcolmk> who knows may be back 2morrow, think I will let you know the outcome anyway.
[08:38] <malcolmk> cheers
[08:38] <soundray> malcolmk, hope you can fix it.
[08:38] <sewoyl> please, does anybody know????
[08:38] <mzelem> anyone know where to go to determine the compatibility of hardware in ubuntu before you buy it?
[08:39] <VIPER^|^> anybody has an idea about sks errors of  compilation
[08:39] <Stormx2> !hardware
[08:39] <ubotu> [hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:39] <mzelem> k, thanks....
[08:39] <VIPER^|^> does any1 know
[08:39] <sewoyl> anybody?? this is urgent
[08:40] <bshumate> Stormx2: man lsof, particularly the -i option
[08:40] <Stormx2> sewoyl: How much disk space does windows say he has left?
[08:40] <varsendagger> hey pipeline where do i get dmix is it a package or is an alsa configuration?
[08:40] <fastly> anyone here know of a gnome app for sniffing out wifi signals?
[08:41] <pipeline> varsendagger: It's a configuration issue.
[08:41] <sewoyl> Stormx2, I have no idea but this is a 80G hard drive with a fresh windows install on it
[08:42] <sewoyl> Stormx2,  73,6 GB
[08:42] <sewoyl> out of 80
[08:42] <varsendagger> pipeline, thanks
[08:42] <khermans> bimberi, thx -- might work
[08:42] <sewoyl> can can my friend figure out if the percentage he has to type in is the space to leave to windows or the percentage to give ubuntu ?
[08:43] <sewoyl> how can*
[08:43] <kevin> Can anyone tell me where to set the access rights on a folder on the Ubuntu computer for access by a win2K through Samba????
[08:43] <jpanega> Im trying to setup RT3.4 on a powermacG4, ubuntu 5.10. I use apt get to install apache2 and mysql and rt. im stuck at getting mysql up and running. i get this error error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket'/var/run/mysqld/ mysqld.sock' (2)'
[08:43] <jpanega> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[08:43] <Stormx2> sewoyl: Use up 20gb or so
[08:43] <Stormx2> sewoyl: Depends if he wants to just mess around on it or use it as a full-time OS
[08:43] <jpanega> where is the default for mysqld.sock?
[08:43] <_jason> sewoyl, best option would be 0% windows 100% ubuntu, but you can read this too: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-20.4921306658
[08:44] <mcphail> jpanega: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[08:44] <ke> Is it possible to update breezer to dapper?
[08:44] <jpanega> thanks
[08:44] <varsendagger> where is the .asoundrc file?
[08:45] <sewoyl> Stormx2, let's say he wants to use 2G for ubuntu ... does he have to type in 25% or 75% (in other words, again, does he have to type in the disk size for ubuntu or windows? the installer is _completely_ unclear about what it is asking)
[08:45] <nalioth> ke: it is possible, but not recommended at this time
[08:45] <sewoyl> i meant 20G
[08:45] <jpanega> mcphail I get this  Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[08:45] <jpanega>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[08:45] <jpanega> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[08:45] <jpanega> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[08:45] <Stormx2> sewoyl: It doesn't work of percentages....
[08:45] <jpanega> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[08:45] <Sanne> jpanega: I just started mysql, and the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock indeed exists.
[08:45] <nalioth> sewoyl: you can type 2gb or use your calculator and put a percentage of disk to use, it's choice
[08:45] <kevin> Can anyone help on a Samba rights issue???
[08:45] <CaptainMorgan> no
[08:46] <sewoyl> nalioth, thanks you've been the only to understand what I meant
[08:46] <kevin> Can you tell me where I can find out about this?
[08:46] <mcphail> jpanega: did you look at the syslog?
[08:46] <bshumate> kevin: rather than asking if people can help, assume many here are here for the purpose of helping, and just ask your specific question...
[08:46] <jpanega> mcphail no, im doing it now
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan> no
[08:47] <jpanega> wheres syslog at?
[08:47] <CaptainMorgan> no
[08:47] <bshumate> jpanega : /var/log/syslog
[08:48] <kevin> bshumate, how do I set the rights on a folder so that I can copy/paste a data file from Win2K system into it with read/write access?
[08:48] <korhalf> what can i edit thru terminal to change the hostname of my machine?
[08:48] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: please be civil.
[08:48] <korhalf> i think i need something a little more descriptive then user@linuxbox$
[08:48] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:44:50 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[9120] :
[08:48] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld_safe[9193] : started
[08:49] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: No valid checkpoint found.
[08:49] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: If this error appears when you are creating an InnoDB database,
[08:49] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: the problem may be that during an earlier attempt you managed
[08:49] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: to create the InnoDB data files, but log file creation failed.
[08:49] <jpanega> Dec 15 13:46:22 localhost mysqld[9197] : InnoDB: If that is the case, please refer to
[08:49] <Stormx2> Please don't paste here...
[08:49] <Stormx2> Oh he left
[08:49] <Stormx2> ;D
[08:49] <MoonRanger> is thier a quick and easy way to get rid of the localhost.localdomain
[08:49] <MoonRanger> in ubuntu ..
[08:49] <korhalf> does anyone know where in ubuntu i can edit to change the hostname
[08:49] <nalioth> jpanega: pleaes read the /topic and don't paste in here
[08:49] <korhalf> i know there has to be some /etc/hostname or something
[08:50] <sewoyl> korhalf, there is the hostname command
[08:50] <unimatrix> hi there
[08:50] <korhalf> sewoyl, there is?
[08:50] <jpanega> sorry
[08:50] <djm62> korhalf: /etc/hostname
[08:50] <nalioth> korhalf: man hostname
[08:50] <unimatrix> any one here has zope?
[08:50] <unimatrix> and knows how to start it on ubuntu?
[08:50] <levander> I can umount and mount a filesystem with two steps to remount a filesystem, but is there a way to remount it just by typing one command?
[08:50] <unimatrix> just installed it but fails to start zope
[08:50] <djm62> levander: with the mount command, include -o remount
[08:50] <ajmitch> unimatrix: you've setup a zope instance?
[08:50] <korhalf> nalioth, okay, the changes didnt take effect, do i have to restart?
[08:50] <levander> unimatrix: maybe try #python?
[08:51] <unimatrix> how do i do that?
[08:51] <nalioth> korhalf: you shouldn't
[08:51] <unimatrix> the instance...
[08:51] <djm62> levander: along with your new mount options
[08:51] <ndlovu> any ideas why my samba is failing?
[08:51] <_jason> korhalf, you can change it easily in the gui: system -> administration -> networking --> general
[08:51] <ndlovu> /etc/init.d/samba: line 24:  7600 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D
[08:51] <unimatrix> got console ope@
[08:51] <ajmitch> unimatrix: something like  dzhandle -z 2.7 make-instance  <instance> --addon-mode all
[08:52] <korhalf> _jason, i don thave a gui
[08:52] <ajmitch> where you replace <instance> with the name you want
[08:52] <jpanega> heres what I get in the syslog  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5792
[08:52] <_jason> korhalf, never mind then :)
[08:52] <korhalf> nalioth, i shouldnt? then what do i do..
[08:52] <ajmitch> unimatrix: see /usr/share/doc/zope-common/README.Ubuntu.gz
[08:52] <trappist> wow.  conky is hella cool.
[08:52] <levander> djm62: does that do a umount first?  I'm looking for a one-step replacement for when I reboot my XP box, and have to remount all the smbfs shares.  Currently, I'm doing 1.) 'sudo umount -l -t -a smbfs' 2.) 'sudo mount -t smbfs -a'
[08:53] <shanonx> stupid question but where can I get new themes?
[08:53] <nalioth> korhalf: see what _jason told you above
[08:53] <Frosty> Hi all
[08:53] <korhalf> nalioth, i dont have a gui.
[08:53] <kevin> ndlovu, can you tell me where to set the rights so i can copy a data file from Win2K to Ubuntu folder for Samba access???
[08:53] <levander> shanonx: art.gnome.org has some
[08:53] <GURT> something?
[08:53] <nalioth> korhalf: then in a terminal type "man hostname" once you change it, log out
[08:53] <Frosty> I am popping up all kinds of errors while trying to install gftp
[08:53] <levander> djm62: i tried 'mount -o remount -l -t smbfs -a' to replace those two commands, didn't work
[08:53] <unimatrix> thanx for the help, thats great!
[08:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell shanonx about themes
[08:53] <Frosty> anyone know how to mkae this?
[08:53] <jpanega> mcphail: you get my syslog?
[08:53] <Frosty> make*
[08:54] <nalioth> Frosty: gftp is in the repos
[08:54] <Frosty> of damn, is it?
[08:54] <shanonx> thanks jason
[08:54] <shanonx> and levander.
[08:54] <Frosty> nalioth: thanks
[08:54] <mcphail> jpanega: no. join #flood
[08:54] <CaptainMorgan> wow, peeps gotta lighten up
[08:54] <Frosty> I musta overlooked it
[08:55] <jpanega> mcphail: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/579
[08:55] <MoonRanger> anyone have any tutorials on setting your linux box up with a spare domain name i have ..
[08:55] <djm62> levander: I think the -o remount should come after the other options... it might not be honoured by smbfs, but it's all I can suggest
[08:55] <Frosty> Nalioth: I get that through Synaptic?
[08:55] <ndlovu> kevin, there may be others here who can be of more help, but I can try to help!
[08:55] <nalioth> Frosty: yes you do
[08:55] <CaptainMorgan> how come amarok is saying, "some urls were not suitable for the playlist" ? when trying to add media?
[08:55] <florg> can anyone tell me how to use the nbd-client?
[08:56] <anatole> what should i do to apply the changes of /etc/fstab ?
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> wtf does that mean?
[08:56] <Frosty> nalioth: thanks again
[08:56] <kevin> ndlovu, are you getting my invite to chat?
[08:56] <ndlovu> kevin - you have an ubuntu machine and a win2k machine, is that right?
[08:56] <florg> i connected to my server but how can i access the exported file?
[08:56] <kevin> right
[08:56] <djm62> anatole: remount
[08:56] <MrFarts> is there really any difference in picture quality between dvi video cards
[08:56] <MrFarts> that makes no sense to me
[08:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kevin about register
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> it's not a url...
[08:56] <_jason> anatole, sudo mount -a
[08:56] <ndlovu> kevin: can you access the win2k machine at all from ubuntu
[08:57] <mcphail> jpanega: i'd do what it says, or remove and reinstall mysql
[08:57] <kevin> let me try..one moment please
[08:57] <CaptainMorgan> oh wait.. how you set up so that amarok can play mp3's ?
[08:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CaptainMorgan about mp3
[08:57] <CaptainMorgan> may be the problem..
[08:57] <jpanega> mcphail: i have done that
[08:57] <holycow> if your looking at a mounted linux drive, what is the easiest way to clue into what version of linux was running on it?  chances are this is debian  ....
[08:57] <korhalf> damn i cant think of a better hostname than "linuxbox"
[08:58] <korhalf> any ideas?
[08:58] <varsendagger> korhalf, george
[08:58] <korhalf> varsendagger, george?
[08:58] <nalioth> korhalf: my hostnames all reflect the hardware they name
[08:58] <_jason> korhalf, snow
[08:58] <holycow> korhalf, use cities, countries, mythology
[08:58] <mcphail> jpanega: followed the instructions on http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Error_creating_InnoDB.html ?
[08:58] <_jason> korhalf, weather :)
[08:58] <varsendagger> yeah if it was good enough for a kennedy it should be good enough for you
[08:58] <holycow> some rough ways to start thinking in related naming terminology :)
[08:58] <ElitePete> korhalf, thats my hostname LMFAO
[08:58] <korhalf> holycow, mythology, thats good
[08:59] <korhalf> ElitePete, what, linuxbox? lol
[08:59] <ElitePete> yea i swear it is
[08:59] <mitch_> How come when i try and burn an iso,  it says enter an empty disk,  i do and it seems that it dosent reconize it,   when i put it in a cd pops up on the desktop thou...   ??
[08:59] <korhalf> ElitePete, its just so descriptive, and it isnt anything gay like "sentinal" or something
[08:59] <ElitePete> i couldn't think of anything either
[08:59] <holycow> ElitePete, love the nick :)
[08:59] <holycow> hehe
[08:59] <Neurosis> whats a good ftp server i can set up on ubuntu
[08:59] <varsendagger> so that is a no on george
[08:59] <ElitePete> thx holy.
[08:59] <kevin> ndlovu, by the way, I am trying to access the Ubuntu machine from the W2K machine, not the other way around.  The W2K machine accesses the Ub fine, just doesn't seem to have any rights to xfera file.
[08:59] <rockin_stan> cu, gn8
[08:59] <holycow> neural, proftpd is the standr most use, lots of other options too
[09:00] <NCLife> seveas or someone, after i dl the sun java package, wich was the command i had to type to install it?
[09:00] <mitch_> How do I burn an iso to an empty cdr?
[09:00] <djm62> feynman...if I can ever afford another computer, bohr
[09:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NCLife about deb
[09:00] <ElitePete> Mitch_ write click it >write to cd
[09:00] <ElitePete> right*
[09:01] <NCLife> thx nalioth
[09:02] <mitch_> ElitePete : I do that but it says please enter a rewriteable or blank disk? ???
[09:02] <korhalf> so many hostnames to choose from
[09:02] <korhalf> damn
[09:02] <ElitePete> hmm..
[09:02] <ElitePete> korhalf, weird we'd have the same one :-P
[09:02] <ndlovu> kevin, okay, have you gone through the information on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?
[09:02] <korhalf> ElitePete, i think theres more than just us
[09:02] <CaptainMorgan> http://pastebin.com/465663 what does that mean? I have the repo's listed and checked...
[09:02] <kevin> ndlovu, no
[09:03] <korhalf> ElitePete, its just for the installation, you dont care so you call it linux or linux box or something
[09:03] <ElitePete> :-) yea
[09:03] <ElitePete> i didn't know it stuck around
[09:03] <korhalf> ElitePete, then over time you customize everything, and i cant think of a good hostname
[09:03] <kevin> ndlovu, I will go there, thanks.
[09:03] <ElitePete> i started out just using my Ip address though....
[09:03] <mcphail> korhalf: what about korhalflinuxbox? That would be unique.
[09:03] <korhalf> ElitePete, wow
[09:03] <korhalf> mcphail, korhalf is unique eh
[09:03] <korhalf> right now its chris@linuxbox:
[09:03] <korhalf> korhalflinuxbox is too long
[09:03] <ElitePete> lol mine is pete@LinuxBox
[09:03] <ElitePete> ;-p
[09:04] <ndlovu> kevin: you probably need to edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf file and set writable = yes for your shares
[09:04] <chorse> korhalf: strip the vowels.
[09:04] <korhalf> krhlflnxbx
[09:04] <korhalf> wow
[09:04] <korhalf> chris@lnxbx
[09:04] <mcphail> korhalf: then rot13
[09:04] <korhalf> ahah
[09:05] <sobersabre> hi
[09:05] <CaptainMorgan> http://pastebin.com/465663 what does that mean? I have the repo's listed and checked... << anyone seen this before ?
[09:05] <mitch_> Cansomeone help me with burning an ISO to a cd when the blank cd is not reconized?
[09:05] <sobersabre> has anybody got KDE3.5 on breezy  in here ?
[09:05] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me what a semicolon (;) at the start of a line in smb.conf signifies?
[09:05] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, I think mirrormax no longer exists
[09:06] <trappist> ndlovu: comment
[09:06] <mcphail> mitch_: tried another CD?
[09:06] <korhalf> im gonna look at some linux screenshots and steal someone elses
[09:06] <korhalf> :)
[09:06] <mitch_> will do mcphai
[09:06] <chorse> ndlovu: a comment line
[09:06] <ndlovu> trappist: so the same as # ?
[09:06] <ElitePete> haha!
[09:06] <sobersabre> ndlovu try using vim it colors comments for smb.conf/
[09:06] <trappist> ndlovu: yeah
[09:06] <trappist> korhalf: I'm trappist@grasshopper.linuxkungfu.org :)
[09:06] <ndlovu> thanks
[09:06] <korhalf> trappist, dont you hate how its that long though?
[09:07] <korhalf> trappist, i dont want it to take half my shell realistate
[09:07] <trappist> korhalf: well in my shell it just says grasshopper
[09:07] <sobersabre> i repeat: is anybody using KDE3.5 on breezy here ?
[09:07] <mitch_> tryd another disk,   there brand new out of the cd-r package.   The blank disks seems to show up on my desktop..
[09:07] <korhalf> xorn? who the hell thought of that one, bad screenie too
[09:07] <trappist> sobersabre: will it help if somebody says no?
[09:07] <CaptainMorgan> jason , mirrormax ?
[09:07] <ElitePete> can somone tell me what the, cmd to save current soundcard config is?
[09:07] <sobersabre> trappist i expect another answer
[09:08] <mcphail> korhalf: you don't need to show your hostname at all at the shell prompt
[09:08] <djm62> sobersabre: no
[09:08] <trappist> sobersabre: I expect if somebody who saw you ask is running 3.5 on breezy, you'd have gotten something
[09:08] <djm62> sobersabre: it may take some time for everyone to say no, some people are probably idling
[09:08] <techrush> mmm garlic hot wings
[09:08] <trappist> sobersabre: I for one wouldn't know how to get 3.5 on breezy
[09:08] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, the repositories that are failing in your pastebin, they're the mirrormax ones.
[09:08] <ndlovu> sobersabre: I do use vim but it doesn't use colours. I can remember somewhere there's a setting for that, do you perhaps know where it is (I'm using gnome terminal)?
[09:08] <omeg> Hi everybody. I want to change a directory's files (and the directory itself) ownership. It's currently owned by root, and I want to make it the usergroup "michiel", which is my user's group.
[09:08] <omeg> Is there a terminal way to do it?
[09:08] <trappist> lol@djm62
[09:09] <ElitePete> can somone tell me what the, cmd to save current soundcard config is?
[09:09] <CaptainMorgan> jason, sorry I have no idea what you're talking about..
[09:09] <trappist> omeg: sudo chown -R michiel /path/to/dir
[09:09] <mitch_> how do i unmount my cdr?
[09:09] <omeg> Thanks
[09:09] <vince__> hi
[09:09] <sobersabre> djm62 i'll wait until everyone says their no
[09:09] <_jason> ubotu, are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:09] <ubotu> _jason: Syntax error in line 1
[09:09] <_jason> ffs
[09:09] <trappist> ElitePete: please give it a few minutes before repeating yourself
[09:09] <ElitePete> k.
[09:09] <korhalf> http://r-tist.no-ip.org/secondscreen.png
[09:09] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:09] <CaptainMorgan> nalioth gave me the ubotu info.. I followed that and tried the sudo command they're for enabling mp3's
[09:10] <korhalf> thats my desktop right there
[09:10] <korhalf> i dont know how other people have such cool themes
[09:10] <CaptainMorgan> jason hoary
[09:10] <korhalf> and i have that piece of crap
[09:10] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, are comfortable editing your sources.list?
[09:10] <ElitePete> http://demonlegion.net/private/Mace/linux.png is my desktop
[09:10] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, are you that is
[09:10] <djm62> korhalf: have you had a look at themes.freshmeat.net and art.gnome.org?
[09:10] <trappist> korhalf: http://linuxkungfu.org/images/shots/adesktop.png
[09:10] <CaptainMorgan> jason if I know what exactly to do with it... what to edit etc.
[09:11] <NCLife> nalioth, the package name is sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb, should i put all that on the command?
[09:11] <ElitePete> yes nc
[09:11] <NCLife> oks :)
[09:11] <nalioth> NCLife: yes
[09:11] <korhalf> trappist, and thats ubuntu?
[09:11] <korhalf> trappist, is that even gnome?
[09:11] <jpanega> mcphail: i delete the files and I get the same error
[09:11] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, okay, first do you want the hoary backports?  and pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list please
[09:11] <ElitePete> dpkg -l filename.deb
[09:11] <omeg> hmmm
[09:11] <ElitePete> can somone tell me what the, cmd to save current soundcard config is?
[09:11] <trappist> korhalf: actually no and no, but my ubuntu boxes look the same
[09:11] <ndlovu> sobersabre: nevermind, I found it in /etc/vim/vimrc. much better now :)
[09:12] <korhalf> trappist, thatd be cool to have a theme like that, id feel like a hacker lol
[09:12] <sobersabre> ndlovu way to go :)
[09:12] <sobersabre> a :syn on
[09:12] <sobersabre> would be enough...
[09:12] <trappist> ndlovu: it's better to make a .vimrc in your home dir than to edit that
[09:12] <mcphail> jpanega: it's all very odd. Have you done apt-get remove --purge mysqld? Then reinstall?
[09:13] <korhalf> ElitePete, thats mac osx theme isnt it?
[09:13] <trappist> korhalf: http://linuxkungfu.org/images/wallpaper/puterguts.jpg
[09:13] <korhalf> ElitePete, cypress hill is the shiznit btw
[09:13] <sobersabre> trappist do you know how to setup in the editted .c file misc vim settings ?
[09:13] <ndlovu> trappist: thanks for the advice, I'll do it that way then
[09:13] <Answer> quit
[09:13] <Stormx2> I don't understand the concept of "backports". Is that like, breezy packages for hoary users, or the other way around?
[09:13] <Answer> :qtui
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> jason Hoary would be fine, right? I have no intentions of upgrading to breezy right now... http://pastebin.com/465678
[09:13] <Answer> :quit
[09:13] <ElitePete> korhalf yea iti s.
[09:13] <ElitePete> korhalf, i don't know
[09:13] <omeg> Setting up mysql and php is so difficult
[09:13] <nalioth> Stormx2: backports are programs for the next release of ubuntu available for the current release
[09:13] <Stormx2> omeg: No it isn't
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> omeg it's easy
[09:13] <ElitePete> arg, yes cypress hill owns, but i dunno what theam it is
[09:13] <Stormx2> omeg: You can do it in one command
[09:13] <Stormx2> !lamp
[09:13] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:13] <ndlovu> trappist: um, would it basically be a copy of the same file, just with user-specific changes?
[09:13] <trappist> sobersabre: I'm not sure what you're asking
[09:13] <ElitePete> Stormx2 can you tell me the cmd to save current soundcard config?
[09:14] <Stormx2> ElitePete: Nope, sorry
[09:14] <jpanega> mcphail: --purge mysql?
[09:14] <omeg> I've got all the packages from synaptic, and it seems mysql is set up correctly, as is php, but now I need to make a database. I tried to do it, but I have no access to use CREATE.
[09:14] <trappist> ndlovu: if you only have one change to make, it just needs one line.  it takes precedence over the system vimrc.
[09:14] <klaym> hei people, what's the best cd copying program for ubuntu?
[09:14] <sobersabre> trappist, if you wish to have one .c file tabs of 4 and another of 8... can you do this ?
[09:14] <omeg> I logged into phpmyadmin with "admin" and "".
[09:14] <nalioth> klaym: k3b
[09:14] <omeg> I guessed them and they seemed to be the default values
[09:14] <klaym> nalioth: k
[09:14] <korhalf> so back to hostnames lol
[09:14] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, that's fine, here is what you have to do: in lines 31 and 33 (refer to your pastebin) replace http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:14] <trappist> sobersabre: yes, by putting vim commands in a comment in the c files
[09:14] <mcphail> jpanega: mysqld. It will delete the mysql server and all the config files. Give you a clean slate to restart.
[09:14] <kevin> I am the only user on my Ubuntu system and need to edit a file.  I get the message that I am not the owner of the file and therefore can't edit it.  how do I become the "owner" or establish the rights to edit the file???
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> omeg I've got all the packages from synaptic,  << would your comp slow down if you actually had every package?
[09:15] <sobersabre> ;-) just checking :)
[09:15] <ElitePete> kevin use sudo
[09:15] <korhalf> kevin, theres two users, root and your user.
[09:15] <ElitePete> sudo gedit file name
[09:15] <korhalf> sobersabre, think of a linux hostname GOOG
[09:15] <korhalf> sobersabre, quick
[09:15] <trappist> sobersabre: like this: # vi: et sw=2 ts=2
[09:15] <ElitePete> whats a good gnome theme website?
[09:15] <djm62> kevin: use sudo gedit... it's a safety feature, so you can't accidentally mess something
[09:15] <jpanega> mcphail: i get a couldnt find package mysqld
[09:15] <kevin> How do I log in as "root"?  I thought Ubuntu did not use root?
[09:15] <sobersabre> trappist this won't work... s/et/set/
[09:15] <korhalf> ElitePete, gnome-look.org
[09:15] <_jason> ubotu, tell ElitePete about themes
[09:15] <korhalf> kevin, it doiesnt, use sudo
[09:15] <djm62> ElitePete: art.gnome.org, themes.freshmeat.net (freshmeat used to be good, anyway)
[09:15] <trappist> sobersabre: it works here
[09:16] <korhalf> kevin, if you want a prompt, sudo -i
[09:16] <ElitePete> spank ya
[09:16] <ElitePete> :-0
[09:16] <sobersabre> kool :)
[09:16] <mcphail> jpanega: sorry, mysql-server
[09:16] <trappist> sobersabre: I mean et works here.  I dunno if I understood your question correctly.
[09:16] <ndlovu> trappist: thanks, working
[09:16] <sobersabre> trappist you understood correctly.
[09:16] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, if you are in the us you can even put http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:17] <Madeye> guys, where is the firefox cache folder?
[09:17] <korhalf> wow, we actually have some users on mirc
[09:17] <sobersabre> Madeye it is defined in Firefox settings.
[09:17] <ElitePete> hm
[09:17] <djm62> korhalf: ubuntu is meant to be friendly for windows refugees ;)
[09:17] <korhalf> djm62, ahha, refugees.
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> jason.. are you meaning I paste the actual link you're pasting above in place of where the links are in lines 31 and 33 ? I was going to those link thinking what the hells this ?
[09:17] <nalioth> korhalf: please dont do that again
[09:17] <jpanega> mcphail: same thing...reformat?
[09:18] <omeg> Hmm
[09:18] <omeg> Okay, so MySQL and PHP are up and running
[09:18] <Madeye> sobersabre, it's not
[09:18] <_jason> Madeye, default is in .mozilla/firefox/*.default/cache
[09:18] <korhalf> nalioth, give me a good hostname
[09:18] <_jason> maddler, and that's in your home directory
[09:18] <ElitePete> halfkor ;-)
[09:18] <omeg> I made Apache point to /home/michiel/Server/ instead of /var/www/ because I don't have write permissions there and thus can't make files
[09:18] <mcphail> jpanega: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[09:18] <nalioth> korhalf: open a dictionary randomly and drop your finger
[09:18] <omeg> But it seems this causes problems
[09:18] <omeg> Or maybe it's still something else..
[09:18] <korhalf> hm maybe i can write a script, to grab a random string from the dictionary on the computer
[09:18] <NCLife> nalioth, when i put in that command it says: "dpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):" "cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:18] <_jason> korhalf, I use brands of portuguese water, you can have one, try: caramulo
[09:19] <korhalf> _jason, woah
[09:19] <CaptainMorgan> jason?
[09:19] <hmpedersen> Just started downloadin the amd64 iso..
[09:19] <omeg> I guess this is what happens if someone who's not experienced messes around to try and get it to work :P
[09:19] <korhalf> _jason, thats unique man
[09:19] <djm62> korhalf: choose a theme... bands, artists, composers, rappers, planets, stars, sports teams, booze types, wines?
[09:19] <nalioth> NCLife: you'll need to be in the same directory as the file when you issue the command
[09:19] <ElitePete> korhalf, check this out http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32551&PHPSESSID=0b40a6707c4e7fd3981ac7a247d2cf87
[09:19] <korhalf> i want a nice smooth name
[09:19] <jpanega> mcphail: same
[09:19] <korhalf> not one thatshard to pronounce
[09:19] <NCLife> nalioth, i dl the file on my desktop, what must i do?
[09:20] <djm62> korhalf: korhalf@gewurztraminer ;)
[09:20] <korhalf> hah
[09:20] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, sorry, please prefix my name with a _ so that I can see the highlight.  Yes actually replace the text in the file
[09:20] <ElitePete> korhalf, what did you think of that theme
[09:20] <nalioth> NCLife: in your terminal, type "cd Desktop" and then run the dpkg command
[09:20] <NCLife> oh, okayz
[09:20] <mcphail> jpanega: well, i'm not sure. You could try asking on the forums or #mysql
[09:21] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, when you are done, you can pastebin it again so we can make sure it is okay
[09:21] <jpanega> mcphail: thanks for your help!
[09:21] <NCLife> nalioth, it says "bash: cd: No such file or directory
[09:21] <mcphail> jpanega: well, it didn't help much...
[09:21] <korhalf> ElitePete, i think thats dope, its nice
[09:21] <korhalf> ElitePete, ive wanted a darker theme too, easier on the eyes
[09:21] <ElitePete> hmm, how i install it?
[09:21] <ElitePete> i'm new to ubuntu ;-)
[09:21] <korhalf> ElitePete, just go to themes under preferences, and navigate to the .tar.gz
[09:22] <ElitePete> kk
[09:22] <nalioth> NCLife: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:22] <NCLife> yep
[09:22] <ElitePete> wow this theme is sexay
[09:22] <xkahn> Alright.  This is probably a FAQ somewhere, but it's driving me crazy.
[09:22] <xkahn> Why is ubuntu so slow?
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> _jason http://pastebin.com/465697
[09:22] <korhalf> ElitePete, are the buttons easy to read and stuff
[09:23] <xkahn> My screen redraws are glacial.
[09:23] <korhalf> ElitePete, because ive had problems with other themes.
[09:23] <Amaranth> the live cd is slow, i've never had problems with the installed version
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> _jason but Im still getting 'some urls were not suitable...." from amarok..
[09:23] <xkahn> gnome-terminal is so slow, I shouldn't be using it.
[09:23] <ElitePete> nope
[09:23] <ElitePete> the buttons arent even showing up.
[09:23] <ElitePete> ...
[09:23] <xkahn> BUT!  I appear to be correctly using the NVIDIA graphics drivers.
[09:23] <djm62> dra: what's the m-variant?
[09:24] <djm62> I used to use rxvt
[09:24] <korhalf> trappist, you own linuxkungfu.org or?
[09:24] <trappist> yeah
[09:24] <mcphail> xkahn: is there something using up your memory/cpu on "top"?
[09:24] <dra> djm62: I don't know... ;)
[09:24] <xkahn> djm62: I'd probably switch to xterm or something like it, but I kinda like the tabs.
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> _jason .... oh maybe I need to fun apt-get update ?
[09:24] <xkahn> mcphail: no.
[09:24] <dra> djm62: it supports unicode, truetype and font AA, maybe that's it
[09:24] <xkahn> mcphail: well, I have a lot of RAM in use, but I'm not swapping much.
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> hahah... thinks it's working now..
[09:24] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, yes, but actually I am not sure if hoary extras exists there or not.  Try apt-get update and see
[09:24] <korhalf> hold on, trappist did you design ipkungfu?
[09:25] <trappist> korhalf: yeah
[09:25] <korhalf> trappist, i used to use that on my old debian system, come to thikn of it,i dont even use firewalls anymore
[09:25] <dra> xkahn: mrxvt has tabs ;)
[09:25] <djm62> xkahn: if you're on limited hardware...fluxbox: now everything is tabbed! ;)
[09:25] <mcphail> xkahn: yes, but is any one process hogging ram?
[09:25] <trappist> korhalf: cool :)
[09:25] <korhalf> trappist, props man seriously, its a nice script
[09:25] <trappist> thanks :)
[09:25] <an_drew> amarok crashes on me constantly. I've tried different engines but it still crashes. I've tried some things suggested in the forums but no luck. Any ideas?
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> _jason maybe the first link without the us. ?
[09:25] <xkahn> mcphail: Well, firefox is using 12% of my RAM.
[09:25] <xkahn> mcphail: Nothing shocking there.
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> still receiving errors'
[09:26] <ratero> Hello Ubuntu users!
[09:26] <mcphail> xkahn: gdesklets / 3ddesktop?
[09:26] <xkahn> mcphail: ha!  no.
[09:26] <thrice`> is there a site that displays security updates ?  a sort of changelog?
[09:26] <xkahn> seriously, I'm not doing anything too special.
[09:26] <xkahn> switching desktops takes about a second too.
[09:26] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, I'm sorry, we shouldn't have replaced that last line with the extras... you can change it back
[09:26] <xkahn> it seems like the video driver is slow.
[09:27] <mcphail> xkahn: anything sending tons of errors to syslog or the like?
[09:27] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, http://pastebin.com/465678 use line 33 from there
[09:27] <xkahn> lesse...
[09:27] <_jeff> hey guys
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> _jason change them back to to backports ?
[09:27] <SamuelClyde> Can anyone tell me if its possible to reconfigure my network settings though SSH on my server box to i can plug it into my Hub and not my Router?
[09:27] <ElitePete> hey korhalf,
[09:27] <_jeff> can anyone explain to me why i would want to recompile a kernel?
[09:27] <ElitePete> i found a black one that actually works. hold on i'll link ya.
[09:27] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, yes only line 33, line 31 keep it as archive.ubuntu...
[09:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CaptainMorgan about backports
[09:27] <ElitePete> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=25815
[09:28] <korhalf> ElitePete, hmm
[09:28] <djm62> _jeff: if you wanted features not in the ubuntu kernel, or if you wanted features removed (for reasons of space, security, or memory)
[09:28] <ElitePete> buttons show up fine.
[09:28] <korhalf> ElitePete, im just seeing if i like it ornot
[09:28] <korhalf> ElitePete, im really picky heh
[09:28] <nickrud> _jeff, in general, if the default kernel does not support your hardware, and there's some experimental stuff that was left out that might support it. Or for fun.
[09:28] <_jason> nalioth, he's on hoary, do the extras still exist on mirrormax?
[09:28] <xkahn> mcphail: nope.  Doesn't look like it.
[09:29] <xkahn> Well, maybe I can run a more intelligent way to check that...
[09:29] <korhalf> that guys got the best mplayer skin ive seen in mylife
[09:29] <djm62> _jeff: also, because you might be a CS student or curious person who wants to see how it works, and maybe modify it on your own...you probably don't want to, but you have every right to ;)
[09:29] <nalioth> _jason: mirrormax is gone for good, use official backports
[09:29] <xkahn> mcphail: Actually, I'm seeing a number of these:
[09:29] <ElitePete> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13339 that looks good also korhalf,
[09:29] <xkahn> mcphail: Dec 15 15:28:15 zoned kernel: [7143480.449000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).$
[09:29] <_jeff> djm62, nickrud: i see, thanks guys
[09:29] <nickrud> mebsd, I quit playing with the kernel when they stopped releasing stable versions :)
[09:29] <_jason> nalioth, is there a mirror for hoary-extras?
[09:30] <nickrud> sorry mebsd , tab completion brainlock
[09:30] <CaptainMorgan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? << I have no idea...
[09:30] <korhalf> ElitePete, oh i tried that one, buttons dont show up
[09:30] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, do you have synaptic open or something similar?
[09:30] <ElitePete> the darknight one?
[09:30] <ElitePete> thanks for the heads up :-)
[09:30] <mcphail> xkahn: hmm - odd. Tried googling that?
[09:30] <sam_> hey
[09:30] <CaptainMorgan> that's it..
[09:31] <xkahn> (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
[09:31] <xkahn> (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
[09:31] <xkahn> (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
[09:31] <xkahn> (==) RandR enabled
[09:31] <xkahn> (II) Initializing extension GLX
[09:31] <korhalf> ElitePete, well maybe it was my brightness, but it just looked bad, like the default skin for xmms, i hate that
[09:31] <xkahn> So that looks good...
[09:31] <sam_> better still hello all
[09:31] <korhalf> !paste
[09:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:31] <nalioth> xkahn: no more pasting please, see the /topic
[09:31] <sam_> I am looking to buy a wireless card today any suggestins
[09:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sam_ about wireless
[09:31] <ElitePete> korhalf, the dark sigel with cherry soda icons and a black and red background looks great, i'll give you a link of mine one minute.
[09:31] <trappist> sam_: anything with an atheros chipset
[09:31] <lordlucless> My cron isnt running its jobs when its supposed to - jobs scheduled for 3:25 in the morning are running run at 7:35. "date" returns the correct time and /etc/timezone is set to the right zone
[09:31] <nickrud> xkahn, I get those on my multimedia keys that aren't defined, there's a method where you use setkeycodes to turn those into known keys
[09:31] <lordlucless> Anyone know anything else that could cause cron to misfire?
[09:31] <korhalf> ElitePete, lol dont bother sending me all these links, im at my co op placement (16 years old doing network installations lol), when i get home ill come back, hopefully  youll be here
[09:32] <sam_> anything
[09:32] <xkahn> nickrud: This is a true blue IBM AT keyboard.
[09:32] <nalioth> sam_: ubotu is sending you some info on wireless products that work with ubuntu
[09:32] <xkahn> nickrud: multimedia wasn't even invented yet when this keyboard was released.
[09:32] <xkahn> :)
[09:32] <nalioth> sam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:32] <[paZx] > Hi to all. I'd like to use gnucash on ubuntu ppc, but when i launch gnucash i have a xorg crash. this is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5794 . Any help?
[09:32] <ElitePete> lol korhalf
[09:32] <Acuum> Hello, can somone tell me how to pronouse ubuntu?
[09:32] <CaptainMorgan> _jason apt-get update went successfuly but not the retrieval of gstreamers... http://pastebin.com/465716
[09:32] <sam_> thanks
[09:32] <nickrud> xkahn, the one with the lovely click? I wish I still had mine
[09:33] <_jason> Acuum, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation
[09:33] <xkahn> nickrud: Well, other people have had different discriptions for the click.
[09:33] <djm62> Acuum: oobOOntoo
[09:33] <Acuum> genius Thanks _jason.
[09:33] <xkahn> nickrud: my college roommate hated it...
[09:33] <nickrud> xkahn, don't listen to them, let them listen to you :)
[09:33] <xkahn> But yes.  That's why I have it.  :)
[09:33] <Acuum> even better djm62
[09:34] <CaptainMorgan> this sux.. I had amarok working before the reinstallation of ubuntu.. now I can't get it work
[09:34] <gmoney> Hello.  How is everybody doing today?
[09:34] <korhalf> i dont like that long pronounciation, ooboontoo is too long
[09:34] <Madeye> anyone using toshiba  tecra s2?
[09:34] <xkahn> ah.  known problem with ubuntu's "hotkey-setup" application.
[09:34] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, what exactly are you typign to install gstreamer?
[09:34] <_null> Should I download dapper-install.iso or can i upgrade from a breezy installation without problems?
[09:35] <korhalf> i still say you-bun-too, and and gnome, instead of Guh-nome
[09:35] <mrtwister> hello, hcidump do not provide me hci0... all drivers ok, lsmod, dmesg, /var/log/messages ok, all drivers found, no error... what shall i do?
[09:35] <korhalf> damn still cant think of a hostname
[09:35] <CaptainMorgan> what nioliath and ubotflu says: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[09:35] <mcphail> xkahn: does it explain the lag?
[09:35] <gmoney> I was wondering if anyone could help me out.  I am having a difficulty adding applications on Ubuntu breezy
[09:35] <nalioth> _null: you can update online
[09:35] <xkahn> mcphail: sadly, no.
[09:35] <xkahn> mcphail: but now my logs will be much cleaner!
[09:35] <Hentai^XP> sup nalioth
[09:35] <djm62> btw, latest issue of http://www.developments.org.uk/ magazine had ubuntu...people are noticing
[09:35] <mcphail> xkahn: does the age of your processor match the vintage of your keyboard?
[09:36] <xkahn> mcphail: haha.  You mean a 286?  Does ubuntu even run on 286s with 1Meg soldered in RAM?
[09:36] <nalioth> xkahn: not many linux distros run on 286 boxes at all
[09:36] <Acuum> People are noticing, article in PCworld this month, thats how im here!
[09:36] <ndlovu> gmoney: what applications are you wanting to add?
[09:36] <mcphail> xkahn: wow - who could ever use a _full_ meg of ram???
[09:37] <xkahn> mcphail: No.  The machine is somewhat nice, and should probably be running pretty well.
[09:37] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, I don't think that package is in the hoary repos
[09:37] <xkahn> mcphail: Well, sure.  That's a lot of bits in there.
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> _jason any idea as to what I should do get amarok to play ?
[09:37] <cyphase> if i have a seperate hard drive as my home directory, and i install dapper (when it's finished), will it upgrade smoothly?
[09:37] <sam_> thanks to all for the advice. I am off to go shopping
[09:37] <sam_> later
[09:37] <cyphase> or will there be errors?
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> had it working before
[09:37] <djm62> Acuum: how are you finding it?
[09:37] <xkahn> Are there any graphics speed tests easily available?
[09:38] <Acuum> article in a magasine.
[09:38] <mcphail> xkahn: is it just gnome-terminal that lags?
[09:38] <djm62> xkahn: glxgears, if you have acceleration
[09:38] <xkahn> mcphail: Well, gnome-terminal is so slow it's slowing down compiles.  switching virtual desktops takes around a second.
[09:38] <gmoney> ndlovu:  anything really.  when i attempt to add an application i get a parse error in the terminal after the files are finished downloading.
[09:38] <djm62> Acuum: I mean, how are you enjoying it, adjusting to differences, all that stuff.  how you doing? ;)
[09:38] <vicks> xkahn: i'm a total noob so i should probably stay out of this, but i experienced poor performance on an ati card with ati drivers (notorious i know), but switching to vesa took care of it
[09:39] <PoW> How would I find the drivers for my HP printer to allow it to work with my ubuntu setup?
[09:39] <whaley_work> speaking of screensavers: is it me or is fireworkz(sp?) really really slow compared to other gl screen savers
[09:39] <nalioth> cyphase: the upgrade should be fine, however dapper is still in developement which means it can and will break before april
[09:39] <CaptainMorgan> !mp3
[09:39] <shanonx> how do I change my sound and mouse themes?
[09:39] <xkahn> djm62: glxgears isn't printing out any speed numbers.
[09:39] <xkahn> djm62: but it runs fairly smoothly.
[09:39] <djm62> PoW: have you tried seeing if it is already supported?
[09:39] <whaley_work> xkahn: change the glxgears settings to show fps
[09:39] <Acuum> im not there yet, downloading a live disk at the moment, 5 mins left. dont have a spare hdd to put it on at the moment
[09:39] <djm62> PoW: a lot of HP printers are
[09:39] <Acuum> ill let you latter.
[09:39] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, you can try installing the ones listed here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs (except for w32codecs)
[09:39] <ndlovu> gmoney: what are you using when you try to install? synaptic, add applications, apt-get?
[09:39] <cyphase> nalioth, i know it is, but when it's done..
[09:39] <PoW> hmm
[09:40] <PoW> Well how would I check?
[09:40] <cyphase> for example, will the new gconf be able to read my gconf settings?
[09:40] <gmoney> shanonx:  click on system, then click preferences, and then click either sound or themes
[09:40] <cyphase> from the breezy install
[09:40] <Acuum> "how are yo finding it..." and i just understood what you meant, its late here, and ihave a glass of wine
[09:40] <djm62> PoW: System->Administration->Printing
[09:40] <mcphail> xkahn: if you launch gnome-terminal from the command line, does it give you any unusual errors?
[09:40] <_jason> ubotu, tell me hello
[09:40] <djm62> PoW: plug in the printer first, I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised
[09:41] <pbransford> anyone have any good links for configuing wine?
[09:41] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: stay away from ubuntuguide, please
[09:41] <gmoney> ndlovu:  i've tried to add via synaptic and ad application...i have also tried to do an update on the terminal, and it did update the package lists, but i just cant get it to install.
[09:41] <xkahn> whaley_work: djm62: 1716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 343.086 FPS
[09:41] <gmoney> shanonx:  did that work?
[09:41] <xkahn> so that's pretty good, I guess.
[09:41] <ilPx> salve
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> nalioth - it was your ubotflu page
[09:41] <xkahn> vicks: It's possible that the driver is bad, true.
[09:42] <_jason> nalioth, is gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse in hoary multiverse?
[09:42] <ilPx> ci siete
[09:42] <xkahn> mcphail: Hmm...  That might be tough to try...
[09:42] <ndlovu> gmoney: what error does it give you?
[09:42] <shanonx> gmoney: when i go into sounds... i dont guess there is like an install theme type button you have to enter all the filenames manually?
[09:42] <gmoney> ndlovu:  hang on i'll type the whole thing for you
[09:42] <ilPx> ????
[09:43] <ilPx> hallo
[09:43] <PoW> It is plugged in and turned on. Nothing is detected.
[09:43] <trappist> !it
[09:43] <gmoney> shanonx: i am not sure...sorry.
[09:43] <trappist> did we lose the bot again?
[09:43] <djm62> PoW: and when you go to System->Administration->Printing can you find the make and model?
[09:43] <_jason> trappist, seems so, he hasn't been responding
[09:43] <shanonx> gmoney: ok thanks
[09:44] <xkahn> mcphail: it says: (gnome-terminal:10508): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[09:44] <trappist> who runs the bot?
[09:44] <xkahn> mcphail: but that seems okay.
[09:44] <trappist> ilPx: try #ubuntu-it
[09:44] <mcphail> xkahn: that sounds like the usual
[09:44] <PoW> No
[09:44] <nickrud> trappist, cafuego I believe
[09:44] <xkahn> Well, I guess this isn't a faq then.
[09:44] <xkahn> :)
[09:44] <gmoney> ndlovu: preconfiguring packages ...      dpkg:  parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 17516 package 'libopencdk8':       empty file details field 'Size'
[09:44] <nalioth> _jason: no, but gstreamer0.8-mad is available (and the others), just not the -plugins metapkg
[09:44] <mcphail> xkahn: runs sweet as a nut here.
[09:45] <trappist> ubotu's the best infobot I've ever seen... when he's here
[09:45] <Stormx2> hmm
[09:45] <gmoney> shanonx:  yeah i wish i could help you more.  i am new to ubuntu myself.
[09:46] <shanonx> gmoney: know much about chaning the mouse pointers?
[09:46] <gmoney> ndlovu:  does that make any sense to you?  i can tell that there's a problem with the libopencdk8 (a library file??), but its kind of greek to me.
[09:46] <lordlucless> My cron isnt running its jobs when its supposed to - jobs scheduled for 3:25 in the morning are running run at 7:35. "date" returns the correct time and /etc/timezone is set to the right zone. Anyone know what could cause this?
[09:46] <gmoney> shononx:  not really, but hang on i will see if i can change my pointer.
[09:47] <jgrieves> shanonx sudo apt-get install xcursor-themes
[09:47] <ndlovu> gmoney: can't say I know the solution, but google is turning up a couple of things...
[09:47] <jgrieves> shanonx i think
[09:47] <djm62> PoW: what make and model is it?
[09:47] <jgrieves> should bring up some new ones for you
[09:48] <_jason> nalioth, oh ok thanks, I didn't realize it was just pulling things in so I figured the list at ubuntuguide would do
[09:48] <gmoney> ndlovu:  i googled "libopencdk8" adn it did return a few pages, but none seemed to help
[09:48] <_nekostar> eh sup all
[09:48] <ndlovu> gmoney: check this page, maybe it'll help you: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/08/msg01475.html
[09:48] <thegladiator> do you ugys have any problem with firefox ? i find ff close automatically sometimes
[09:48] <djm62> hmm, the kink community comes to #ubuntu
[09:48] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, if you are still missing codecs, you can install everything marked with a red circle at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:48] <starscalling> so im currently running kde and gdesklets
[09:49] <starscalling> and the desklets laaaaaaaaaaag.. is there a way to fix this?
[09:49] <nickrud> lordlucless, anacron is running those tasks for you; change the scheduled time in /etc/cron.d/anacron
[09:49] <xkahn> mcphail: that's pretty frustrating.  Are you using NVIDIA?
[09:49] <starscalling> i have no vid card on this system atm
[09:49] <mcphail> xkahn: yes
[09:49] <gmoney> shanonx:  no i am not sure how to change the pointers...i think you need to find a new cursor theme.  my ubuntu only has one cursor theme listed under "system, prefs, mouse": the "human" theme
[09:49] <lordlucless> nickrud, ahh, yes, it is
[09:49] <Stormx2> Seveas, you about?
[09:49] <mcphail> xkahn: but Putty to CLI at the moment
[09:49] <PoW> djm62, It's actually connected via a PCI usb 2.0 card. I'm thinking I need the drivers for that card first.
[09:50] <xkahn> mcphail: ah.  Well, text works great.  :)
[09:50] <mcphail> xkahn: screen is the best!
[09:50] <shanonx> gmoney: yea if you type "sudo apt-get intstall xcursor-themes" it will add a few more for you
[09:50] <ndlovu> gmoney: I'd try dpkg --clear-avail
[09:50] <ndlovu> , but I'm a user myself so could be giving you some dangerous advice!
[09:50] <gmoney> ndlovu:  thank you very much.  i am going to read that page, and i may ask another question or two if i need it. lol.
[09:50] <djm62> PoW: have you any other usb device to test with the card?
[09:50] <xkahn> mcphail: I'd be curious if your X.log.0 file show NV-GLX and NV-CONTROL being loaded.
[09:50] <gmoney> brb
[09:50] <mcphail> xkahn: one moment
[09:51] <PoW> no
[09:51] <CaptainMorgan> goddamit this is frustrating
[09:52] <k31th> yo
[09:52] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, you could try aptitude search ^gstreamer , and install anything not installed
[09:52] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: install using synaptic "gstreamer0.8-mad" for mp3 playback capabilities
[09:52] <gmoney> ndlovu:  so i should just type "dpkg --clear-avail" into the terminal in order to clear that file that is returning a parse error?
[09:52] <ndlovu> gmoney - as far as I can tell, yes
[09:52] <gmoney> ndlovu:  ok. i will try it.
[09:53] <djm62> PoW: can you get to the bit where you select manufacturer and model (with non-autodetected printer)
[09:53] <mcphail> xkahn: seem to be
[09:53] <xkahn> mcphail: huh.  The odd thing is that glxgears appears to be CPU limited, not GPU limited.
[09:53] <gmoney> ndlovu:  i tried it and it said "dpkg: bulk available update requires write access to dpkg status area
[09:53] <gmoney> "
[09:54] <xkahn> mcphail: I get an okay frame rate (300s) but my CPU is pegged, and top shows glxgears using 90% of it.
[09:54] <mcphail> xkahn: i'd have thought you would get more than 300fps
[09:54] <ndlovu> gmoney: if you try 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail'?
[09:54] <djm62> xkahn: are you low on memory
[09:54] <NanoBCN28> join #mldonkey
[09:54] <gmoney> ndlovu:  so i typed 'sudo' before the command, and it asked me for my password, and then did absolutely nothing.... it just gives me another command prompt
[09:54] <xkahn> djm62: not particularly.  I'm not swapping much.
[09:54] <PoW> Yeah
[09:54] <gmoney> ndlovu:  do u think it did anything?
[09:55] <alanbcohen> hello
[09:55] <ndlovu> gmoney - sounds like it! try installing again and see what happens.
[09:55] <xkahn> okay.  So then it must be a driver.
[09:55] <gmoney> ndlovu: sweet.
[09:55] <gmoney> brb
[09:56] <mcphail> xkahn: did you follow the instructions in the wiki?
[09:56] <xkahn> mcphail: probably not.  I'm looking now.
[09:56] <mallox> hi all i have problems with sound cards..can somebody help me? thanx
[09:56] <alanbcohen> Question on changing network workgroup and machine names.  Where?
[09:57] <nalioth> mallox: ask a specific question please
[09:57] <ndlovu> gmoney: is it installing?
[09:57] <alanbcohen> I'm fairly new to ubuntu after running Mandrake for a while
[09:57] <gmoney> ndlovu:  YES!!! woo-hoo
[09:57] <Stormx2> heres one for you, any Gameboy emulators for linux?
[09:57] <gmoney> ndlovu: i cannot thank you enough.
[09:57] <cmatheson> Stormx2: google
[09:58] <mwe> there are
[09:58] <ndlovu> gmoney: glad it worked! :)
[09:58] <mallox> malioth: i have realtek sound card, i instaled some codecs form realtek.com and after it cant find device..
[09:58] <Stormx2> cmatheson: I know what google is, just wondering if anyone knew any off hand
[09:58] <nickrud> Stormx2, apt-cache search gameboy came back with gngb and a couple of others
[09:58] <Stormx2> Yeah
[09:59] <gmoney> ndlovu:  me 2.  i am glad you helped me. i have been using ubuntu (and linux) for about a month, and that was honestly my only complaint.
[09:59] <Stormx2> I just ran a search on synaptic. it turned up nothing, but then I realised I was searching in name only
[09:59] <nalioth> mallox: i'm not too helpful with sound issues. but i dont think extra codecs are necessary
[09:59] <foampeace> hi
[09:59] <crimsun> mallox: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[09:59] <ndlovu> gmoney: it is nice I have to agree! glad you find it so usable so quickly.
[09:59] <gmoney> ndlovu:  it was a simple fix, and now i think i will ditch windows once i get some more experience under linux.
[09:59] <crimsun> mallox: what did you install?
[09:59] <xkahn> mcphail: Okay.  Let's see if that works now.
[10:00] <mallox> nalioth: now i think too, but i dont know how unistall :(
[10:00] <foampeace> how do you add irc:// as a registered protocol to firefox?
[10:00] <gmoney> ndlovu:  cool.  well thanks again for making my day.  good luck, and have a good holiday.
[10:00] <gmoney> bye
[10:00] <ndlovu> gmoney - likewise. bye
[10:00] <nalioth> mallox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:00] <corresponder> hi
[10:00] <jenda> Can anyone tell me how to install a HP LJ 1020 Printer?
[10:01] <jenda> !print
[10:01] <pipeline> jenda: I think the LJ 1000s are a little more complicated than normal
[10:01] <pipeline> jenda: Because the printer has no firmware
[10:01] <pipeline> jenda: or rather, no ROM
[10:01] <pipeline> jenda: You have to upload the printer's firmware to it every time it turns on
[10:01] <mallox> wiki ubuntu doesnt help..
[10:02] <jenda> pipeline: Ouch...
[10:02] <Combat_Wombat> hi everyone
[10:02] <crimsun> mallox: see my statement above.
[10:02] <alanbcohen> smb4k comes up showing my machine is 'yam' on 'MSHOME'.  I never set anything to 'MSHOME'.  Need to change it to 'WORKGROUP' like the rest of my network.  Suggestions please.
[10:02] <DjLinX> how u remove a dir with sub dirs and files
[10:02] <crimsun> rm -rf
[10:02] <ndlovu> jenda: I installed a LJ 1010 without any problems. not sure if 1020 is much different...
[10:02] <jenda> pipeline: Actually - I leave it all on most of the time, so that's not really a prob, but where to look?
[10:02] <pipeline> jenda: Try linuxprinting.org ?
[10:02] <jenda> ndlovu: But how? It's not in the lists
[10:02] <Combat_Wombat> alanbcohen: I am having a similar problem
[10:02] <mallox> I installed codecs from http://www.realtek.com.tw/
[10:02] <Acuum> Sorry new to this, using the live disk, can anyone tell me without me having to trawl through the FAQs if i can use WPA for my wifi connection or just WEP?
[10:03] <foampeace> anyone know how to register irc as a protocol in firefox
[10:03] <jenda> pipeline: The first place I looked
[10:03] <foampeace> irc://
[10:03] <crimsun> mallox: why did you do that?
[10:03] <pipeline> jenda: Also, install the foomatic-filters-ppds package.  Lots, lots, lots more printer definition files.
[10:03] <xkahn> mcphail: nope.  same.  And, just to annoy me, the configuration files look the same.
[10:03] <xkahn> :)
[10:03] <mcphail> xkahn: :(
[10:03] <jenda> pipeline: installed already
[10:04] <mcphail> xkahn: is it a reasonable graphics card?
[10:04] <mallox> crimsun : 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[10:04] <mallox> what does it mean? im beginner..thanx
[10:04] <crimsun> mallox: please paste the full output of ''lspci -vv'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:04] <Madeye> guys, How to change the default search engine in Firefox from google to a9.com ?
[10:05] <trappist> Madeye: that's crazy talk
[10:05] <starscalling> eh
[10:05] <xkahn> mcphail: Well, it's not the latest...
[10:05] <xkahn> mcphail: It's a GeForce2
[10:05] <Madeye> trappist, why
[10:05] <starscalling> go to preferences its in there
[10:05] <mallox> crimsun: i do that because i want to upgrade my drivers :/
[10:05] <mcphail> xkahn: ?? they need a different driver
[10:06] <xkahn> mcphail: GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR with AGP to be exact.
[10:06] <xkahn> mcphail: they need a different driver...  which one?
[10:06] <crimsun> mallox: why? Didn't the drivers work before?
[10:07] <Madeye> starscalling, I'm not talking about the default home page, or add engine, I'm talking about this 'when you select a text and then right click, you get "search web for "..." " that what i'm trying to change
[10:07] <mallox> crimsun : because it doesnt work with more streams..
[10:07] <mcphail> xkahn: give me a minute till i check something...
[10:07] <xkahn> okay.  Thanks.  I appreciate it.
[10:08] <Acuum2> djm62 well im on.
[10:08] <ndlovu> jenda - check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57773
[10:08] <korhalf> shit i rebooted my machine remotely, and i forgot that sshd doesnt run by default on startup
[10:08] <korhalf> im screwed
[10:08] <crimsun> mallox: but sound worked, no?
[10:08] <mallox> crimsun: I pasted lscpi results on paste.ubuntu.. there are a lot of numbers..I dont know what to do..
[10:09] <mcphail> xkahn: nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:09] <XiCillin> where are they kernel source files? i'm trying to patch my kernel
[10:09] <mallox> crimsun: yes, worked, but just one stream..
[10:09] <xkahn> ...yes...  I just saw that.
[10:09] <mcphail> xkahn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:10] <crimsun> mallox: please don't try to fix what isn't clearly documented :)
[10:10] <crimsun> mallox: url?
[10:11] <mallox> crimsun: now I know it..but what now?
[10:11] <XiCillin> can anybody tell me where the kernel files are? google is no help at all
[10:11] <korhalf> kernel files?
[10:11] <DRK13> C
[10:11] <shawarma> XiCillin: which files? The drivers or the image?
[10:11] <Stormx2> XiCillin:
[10:11] <Stormx2> XiCillin: apt-get linux-tree linux-headers
[10:11] <korhalf> or the sources/headers even
[10:11] <Stormx2> XiCillin: Or it might be kernel-headers, not sure
[10:11] <shawarma> XiCillin: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[10:11] <XiCillin> i donwloaded the kernel 2.6.14.4
[10:12] <ndlovu> jenda - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=483600 seems to be more related to gnome
[10:12] <XiCillin> i run patch -p1 <patch> and it asks for a file to patch. i'm assuming its the kernel files
[10:12] <XiCillin> i thought it was /usr/src/linux
[10:12] <XiCillin> but it doens' like that
[10:12] <crimsun> mallox: give me the url to the paste, please
[10:13] <mallox> sorry..but which url?
[10:14] <mwe> XiCillin: you're supposed to cd /usr/src/linux. then patch -p1 -i /path/to/patch to path the kernel sources
[10:14] <boodle> anyone truly fix gnome-panels in dapper? (forum suggestions not work for me)
[10:14] <XiCillin> mwe, i am in /usr/src
[10:14] <XiCillin> where i am running the commands
[10:14] <crimsun> mallox: the one you pasted the output of ''lspci -vv''
[10:14] <XiCillin> i can't cd /usr/src/linux because it isn't a directory
[10:14] <lucis> Why am I getting audio but no video from gstreamer?
[10:15] <XiCillin> lucis, codecs probably
[10:15] <mwe> XiCillin: cd linux and try again if you wanna patch the kernel. and use the -i option patch before the path to the patch
[10:15] <lucis> xi, i've got the codecs i think, it won't play any video, no matter what the format
[10:15] <jenda> OK, I got it done thanks to the forum (the HPLJ1020 printer)
[10:15] <llamuh> speaking of kernel sources, how do i get them?  my /usr/src/linux is empty when i try to apt-get the source it tells me "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
[10:15] <XiCillin> root@serenity01:/usr/src# cd linux
[10:15] <XiCillin> bash: cd: linux: Not a directory
[10:15] <korhalf> serenity is a good hostname
[10:15] <mwe> XiCillin: you're also supposed to make a symlink from the current kernel source to linux
[10:16] <korhalf> mine ended up being "veela" easy to pronounce, not complex, rolls off the tongue
[10:16] <XiCillin> i option? like: patch -i -p1 < 'patch'?
[10:16] <mwe> XiCillin: ln -fns /usr/src/linux-xyz /usr/src/linux
[10:16] <mwe> XiCillin: no
[10:16] <lucis> Is there a way to set reset gsteamer defaults?
[10:16] <mwe> XiCillin: either use < or -i, not both. same result
[10:16] <XiCillin> ok i'll try it with the i, mew
[10:17] <CaptainMorgan> k... got Totem to play mp3's.. but now I can't get Totem to play .wma's.. any suggestions ?
[10:17] <mwe> XiCillin: you should still make the symlink
[10:17] <XiCillin> mwe, same thing, its asking for the file to patch. or the kernel to patch
[10:17] <LjL> CaptainMorgan: try mplayer, they say it's better with that kind of formats
[10:17] <shanonx> Does anyone know how to change your Mouse Pointer themes?
[10:17] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, you need w32codecs
[10:17] <mallox> crimsun: http://kup.me.cz/sound.txt
[10:17] <pipeline> CaptainMorgan: Install w32codecs.
[10:17] <mallox> crimsun: thanx
[10:17] <DaSkreech> I heard that you can install something that allows you to mouse over a audio file and it will begin playing
[10:17] <pipeline> CaptainMorgan: It's a package.
[10:17] <XiCillin> mwe: should linux-xyz be the name of my patch?
[10:17] <mwe> XiCillin: no
[10:18] <XiCillin> seems weird
[10:18] <pipeline> DaSkreech: It's a nautilus plugin, it doesn't work well, and it's extremely annoying.
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> thought I already installed the codecs... any links ?
[10:18] <LjL> DaSkreech: that feature's there by default in KDE, not sure about gnome
[10:18] <DaSkreech> Ok
[10:18] <XiCillin> there is only 'linux' in that directory and nothing else (besides my kernel patch)
[10:18] <LjL> CaptainMorgan: try typing "apt-cache policy w32codecs" to be sure they're installed
[10:18] <DaSkreech> pipeline: Whats it called in case it gets better
[10:18] <mwe> XiCillin: xyz is the kernel version. like ln -fns /usr/src/linux-2.6.14.4 /usr/src/linux or whatever your kernel source version is
[10:19] <pipeline> DaSkreech: It won't.
[10:19] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[10:19] <CaptainMorgan> none
[10:19] <mwe> XiCillin: then cd to /usr/src/linux before trying to apply the patch
[10:19] <DaSkreech> pipeline: Confident eh?
[10:19] <XiCillin> thats not a directory
[10:20] <XiCillin> i cna't cd to linux
[10:20] <mwe> XiCillin: is "linux" a link or what? ls -l linux
[10:20] <crimsun> mallox: looking.
[10:20] <mwe> XiCillin: I'm not sure what your project is
[10:20] <mallox> crimsun: :)
[10:20] <crimsun> mallox: ok, now I need the output from ''lsmod ; cat /proc/asound/cards''
[10:21] <CaptainMorgan> errors : http://pastebin.com/465791
[10:21] <XiCillin> mwe, i'm just trying to patch my kernel
[10:21] <Stormx2> Oh boy.
[10:21] <_jason> caplink811_log, where did you download the file to?
[10:21] <Stormx2> I'm down to emulating emulators
[10:21] <XiCillin> but i can't cd to linux because /usr/src/linux isn't a directory
[10:21] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, ^
[10:21] <XiCillin> so when i try to patch it, the patch can't find the kernel
[10:22] <XiCillin> i just need to know where the ubuntu linux kernel is so i can tell it what kernel to patch
[10:22] <mwe> XiCillin: then you need the source of your kernel and then recompile it and install the image. that's a lot to explain in irc. you should find a howto
[10:22] <CaptainMorgan> _jason ?
[10:22] <XiCillin> mwe, if i just want to install a patch i have to recompile the whole kernel?
[10:22] <mallox> crimsun: kup.me.cz/sound2.txt
[10:22] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, did you read what it told you to do?  "download the file w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb to your Desktop"
[10:23] <mwe> XiCillin: yes if it's a patch to the kernel
[10:23] <DA_MELKMAN> hi... could somebody help me out with this problem: I just installed ubuntu and i can't change my screen resolution.. it's 640*480 now.. I have a voodoo3 card, which seems to be correctly detected..
[10:23] <DA_MELKMAN> I'm new with linux and a complete noob, sorry :)
[10:23] <trappist> XiCillin: kernel patches patch source code.  so you patch, rebuild, install.
[10:23] <jenda> DA_MELKMAN: you prolly need the proprietary driver [/guess] 
[10:23] <DA_MELKMAN> thx jenda, do you know where i can download it?
[10:24] <crimsun> mallox: how did you install the realtek drivers?
[10:24] <DA_MELKMAN> and how to install it?
[10:24] <korhalf> DA_MELKMAN, why not just go to system > preferences and change the resolution ?
[10:24] <XiCillin> trappist, yea. i'm tryin to patch right now
[10:24] <DA_MELKMAN> i can't..
[10:24] <pigo> hi
[10:24] <XiCillin> but its asking where the kernel files are or 'file to patch"
[10:24] <DA_MELKMAN> it only says 640*480, can't change it
[10:24] <jenda> DA_MELKMAN: Sorry, I don't. But you can search the forums.
[10:24] <DA_MELKMAN> ok thx
[10:24] <pigo> i have 1 problem whit mount dvd
[10:24] <trappist> XiCillin: you need to install linux-source
[10:24] <korhalf> DA_MELKMAN, edit the xorg.conf
[10:24] <XiCillin> trappist, ok thanks
[10:24] <korhalf> DA_MELKMAN, change the modeline
[10:24] <mwe> trappist: he hasn't got the source or a clue how to configure/compile the kernel as far as I can tell
[10:24] <DA_MELKMAN> ok..
[10:24] <llamuh> when i try to apt-get the linux source i get "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"  can someone explain?
[10:24] <DA_MELKMAN> i'll try it, brb
[10:24] <trappist> mwe: yeah that seems to be the case
[10:25] <CaptainMorgan> looks like totem will be my new player.... so long amarok.. ;(
[10:25] <pigo> i am italian
[10:25] <mallox> crimsun: downladed package, used tar -i..etc..why?
[10:25] <korhalf> CaptainMorgan, mplayer for video, quodlibet for audio
[10:25] <korhalf> Quod Libet is the simply the best mp3 player ive ever come across
[10:25] <korhalf> uh, no the before "simply"
[10:25] <ndlovu> DA_MELKMAN, check this also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d
[10:26] <korhalf> coded in python, and supports gtk perfeclty :) goes perfectly, no need to download a theme for the audio player too
[10:26] <korhalf> i used to use beep-media-player
[10:26] <pigo> HI I HAVE 1 PROBLEM WHIT DVD MOUNT!!! I AM ITALIAN
[10:26] <CaptainMorgan> korhalf - you spelling that correctly?
[10:26] <korhalf> Quod Libet
[10:26] <CaptainMorgan> can't locate it
[10:26] <mwe> pigo: cut the caps dude
[10:27] <korhalf> thats because the package name is
[10:27] <korhalf> quodlibet
[10:27] <korhalf> if you arent sure, do 'apt-cache search Quod Libet' and you'll get hits
[10:27] <DA_MELKMAN> thx all
[10:28] <korhalf> btw, if any of you are concerned about screen realestate, Quodlibet has a little tray icon
[10:28] <korhalf> so you can close it and it still goes :)
[10:28] <pigo> mwe: help me ....what I must make
[10:28] <korhalf> pigo, perhaps join the #ubuntu italian room
[10:28] <korhalf> !italian
[10:28] <apollo2011> how do I switch the default desktop manager? I have done this before but I can't remember the dpkg-reconfigure command
[10:29] <pipeline> apollo2011: reconfiguring any dm package will prompt you.
[10:29] <pipeline> apollo2011: e.g. xdm
[10:29] <pipeline> korhalf: quodlibet is written in python, very painful.
[10:30] <korhalf> apollo2011, you can do it in gdm, if you're running that
[10:30] <_jason> pigo, /j #ubuntu-it
[10:30] <mwe> pigo: put in the dvd and mount /media/cdrom probably
[10:30] <franfar> Hello
[10:30] <germancito> hi
[10:30] <apollo2011> korhalf: ok, how do I do it in there then?
[10:30] <trappist> man if quodlibet wasn't ugly I'd probably switch
[10:30] <korhalf> pigo, sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media
[10:30] <franfar> Can somebody help me with bluetooth?
[10:30] <korhalf> apollo2011, easy, log out of this session
[10:30] <llamuh> right so im still trying to get my proxim wifi card working and think it may be a atheros chipset so i went to 'make' the madwifi and found out that ubuntu doesnt install build-essential package so i installed it but when i go to make it says kernelpath not found so i check the path /usr/src/linux and there is nothing there so i attempt to apt-get linux-source and get "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list  .. any help?
[10:30] <cyphase> where is the apt lock file?
[10:30] <thrice`> what is the best way to stream video in firefox?
[10:30] <apollo2011> korhalf: no the default
[10:30] <korhalf> apollo2011, then click on session before logging in and change it from "last" to the neew WM
[10:30] <pigo> I know that it must put of the parameters... which?
[10:30] <korhalf> apollo2011, yes, im telling you how
[10:30] <mallox> crimsun: ??
[10:30] <korhalf> pipeline, why, whats wrong with python?
[10:30] <cyphase> i killed apt-get and *then* remembered i shouldn't :)
[10:30] <markive> What about Bluetooth?
[10:30] <thrice`> streaming video in firefox anyone?
[10:31] <crimsun> mallox: I'm waiting for your answer to my question.
[10:31] <pipeline> korhalf: You would get a much shorter answer by asking what's NOT wrong with python.
[10:31] <korhalf> thrice`, mplayer plugin for firefox
[10:31] <cyphase> Where is the apt-get lock file?
[10:31] <thrice`> is that the only way?
[10:31] <korhalf> pipeline, are you kidding? python is one of the best languages around
[10:31] <mallox> crimsun: sorry which question?
[10:31] <korhalf> pipeline, i love python/ruby
[10:31] <pipeline> korhalf: I have no civil reply to that.  Please do not continue.
[10:31] <franfar> markive - I'm new to linux but I'm trying to make bluetooth to work in this laptop
[10:31] <crimsun> mallox: how you installed it. Your previous response does not give a complete sequence.
[10:31] <korhalf> pipeline, well name a few things wrong with it though, even though you claim the list is so long
[10:31] <trappist> I'm with pipeline on this.  wtf is a whitespace error?
[10:32] <korhalf> trappist, the indentation helps eliminate the need for braces
[10:32] <franfar> the thing is that I've achieved to send and receibe from laptop and cellphote
[10:32] <korhalf> trappist, plus it makes code readable so people dont obfuscate their shit unneedlessly
[10:32] <pipeline> korhalf: Non-functional garbage collection.  Dreadful performance.  Ambiguous syntaxes.  Inconsistent whitespace significance.  Awful, horrible extension API.  Need I continue?
[10:32] <trappist> korhalf: ruby gets along nicely without braces or whitespace nazism.  long live ruby.
[10:32] <inx> guys.....can somebody help me.....i got Totem + gstreamer to play mpeg.....and installed couple other player....when i'm trying to play wideo in other player i get video without da sound.....when i'm trying to get video in totem i get video & audio BUT video is not catching up with da audio...what to do?
[10:33] <pipeline> korhalf: The indentation would be fine if actually worked.  As the interpreter will allow you to use spaces instead of tabs, or worse, mix tabs and spaces, very weird things can happen.
[10:33] <mcphail> The forced indentation is the worst thing
[10:33] <franfar> but ubuntu Updates keep making the sendto app to not allow me to send
[10:33] <djm62> korhalf: the indentation is arguably invisible unmatched braces, but I do like python
[10:33] <mallox> crimsun: downloaded realtek..xxxx.tar.bz2 ... console tar xjvf realtek.tar.bz2..its all
[10:33] <crimsun> pipeline: / korhalf: this is -offtopic material.
[10:33] <korhalf> trappist, yes and for that you have to put "end"
[10:33] <cyphase> Where is the apt-get lock file?
[10:33] <pipeline> korhalf: Of course, the little things like horrible performance don't bother me that much.  It's the absolutely, positively, totally broken garbage collection I find most deeply offensive.
[10:34] <inx> guys.....can somebody help me.....i got Totem + gstreamer to play mpeg.....and installed couple other player....when i'm trying to play wideo in other player i get video without da sound.....when i'm trying to get video in totem i get video & audio BUT video is not catching up with da audio...what to do?
[10:34] <korhalf> pipeline, i really enjoy not managing my own memory, tryout quod libet regardless, its great, and thats python :P
[10:34] <pipeline> korhalf: Garbage collection was a Solved Problem before I was born, before Python was a twinkle in a moron's eye.  And yet Guido thought he was just smarter than fifty years of research and went on to implement a totally broken garbage collection scheme.
[10:34] <ndlovu> cyphase: this may give you some answers: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94045
[10:34] <mwe> cyphase: removing it is not a good idea, probably
[10:34] <pipeline> korhalf: Heh, I have a very weird rhythmbox fork from before they switched to CVS that is very, very nice.  I do not think I will be abandoning it :P
[10:34] <cyphase> mwe, why?
[10:34] <crimsun> mallox: and where did you install it?
[10:35] <crimsun> mallox: I need the precise sequence of steps you took
[10:35] <mwe> cyphase: because it's there because something is using apt and needs the lock
[10:35] <korhalf> pipeline, oh i see
[10:35] <franfar> Why is Ubuntu keeping backwards the sendto app???
[10:35] <cyphase> mwe, that's just it..
[10:35] <cyphase> i was running apt-get..
[10:35] <cyphase> and i killed it
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> still won't play .wma's..
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> after running that command
[10:35] <cyphase> so it couldn't free up the lock
[10:35] <mallox> crimsun: I put package at desktop and UNtar it..
[10:36] <DA_MELKMAN> korhalf, I ran a script that autodetected my voodoo3 card, but now it asks for the video card's bus identifier.. the strange thing is that it says PCI:0:0:1, but it's an AGP card...
[10:36] <inx> guys....
[10:36] <CaptainMorgan> I downloaded it to my dekstop an ran the next command..
[10:36] <CaptainMorgan> nothing
[10:36] <mwe> cyphase: well in that case look in /var/lock
[10:36] <inx> guys.....can somebody help me.....i got Totem + gstreamer to play mpeg.....and installed couple other player....when i'm trying to play wideo in other player i get video without da sound.....when i'm trying to get video in totem i get video & audio BUT video is not catching up with da audio...what to do?
[10:36] <DA_MELKMAN> can i change PCI into AGP?
[10:36] <cyphase> mwe, i did
[10:36] <pipeline> korhalf: To add insult to injury, after it was discovered that the reference count gc didn't work (surprise, surprise), they didn't remove it because they didn't want to limit backwards compatibility with existing C modules.  Keep in mind that this decision was made when python had like, five users.
[10:36] <cyphase> it's fixed now anyway
[10:36] <CaptainMorgan> mplayer has completely lightened the songs... most of them.. whereas totem will play most everything but wmas
[10:36] <PoW> How could I enable the buttons on the side of my mouse?
[10:36] <PoW> Mouse_4 I believe
[10:36] <crimsun> mallox: and then?
[10:37] <pipeline> korhalf: So, as a result, today, we have a language which will, no matter what, leak memory.  If you use *any* external module in your python script, even some of the ones that come with the base python distribution, your python program will leak.  This is a pisser because it didn't have to be this way.
[10:37] <stimpie> I have a scroll wheel on my keyboard, does someone know how to get that working?
[10:37] <pipeline> stimpie: If it was possible to make it work, it should already be working. :|
[10:37] <djm62> PoW: did you get the printer working? I had to go (family now fed) earlier
[10:38] <pipeline> CaptainMorgan: Did you install the w32codecs package?
[10:38] <mallox> crimsun: then ints end..I listened songs..after restart -> device not found..
[10:38] <DA_MELKMAN> ndlovu, I ran a script that autodetected my voodoo3 card, but now it asks for the video card's bus identifier.. the strange thing is that it says PCI:0:0:1, but it's an AGP card...
[10:38] <DA_MELKMAN> can i change PCI into AGP?
[10:38] <llamuh> right so im still trying to get my proxim wifi card working and think it may be a atheros chipset so i went to 'make' the madwifi and found out that ubuntu doesnt install build-essential package so i installed it but when i go to make it says kernelpath not found so i check the path /usr/src/linux and there is nothing there so i attempt to apt-get linux-source and get "you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list  .. any help?
[10:38] <pipeline> DA_MELKMAN: Just leave it alone.
[10:38] <DA_MELKMAN> pipeline: OK
[10:38] <pipeline> DA_MELKMAN: From the software's perspective, AGP devices are PCI bus devices.
[10:38] <stimpie> pipeline, well it has never worked under linux.
[10:38] <DA_MELKMAN> i see, thx
[10:38] <korhalf> Ew AGP?
[10:38] <pipeline> stimpie: Well, there you have it, then.
[10:38] <korhalf> someone still uses that?
[10:38] <korhalf> PCI Express pal
[10:38] <pipeline> korhalf: People will continue to use AGP for quite a few years yet, bud.
[10:39] <pipeline> korhalf: PCI-E doesn't provide enough juice
[10:39] <stimpie> pipeline, cant I solve it by adding an 2e mouse to x.conf?
[10:39] <pipeline> korhalf: And OEMs don't like filthy hacks.
[10:39] <M_Cheevy> heya folks... gotta few problems here and rather than ask y'all to debug them I figured I'd just to a reinstall.  Big concern is the 300+ meg I had to d/l to get to this point.  If I have a sarge install cd, can I use that as the source for .deb without breaking anything?
[10:39] <korhalf> pipeline, I'm certain AGP was just temporary
[10:39] <crimsun> mallox: uname -r
[10:39] <korhalf> pipeline, I used to run my Radeon chip on AGP till i realized i didnt want 20 FPS whilst playing CS:S
[10:39] <mwe> please cut the off topic crap
[10:39] <pipeline> korhalf: Well, as long as you have to plug cables from the power supply into the graphics card to make it work, there will continue to be a market for AGP cards.
[10:40] <crimsun> I've already warned you guys to move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:40] <mallox> 2.6.12-10-686
[10:40] <llamuh> heh now i remember why i only run linux for a month out of every year for the past 7 years..   pretty sad when it cant detect one of the most popular wifi cards ever
[10:40] <crimsun> mallox: sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ && sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:41] <stimpie> llamuh, ask the manufacturer to create a driver
[10:41] <M_Cheevy> stimpie: thankfully gone
[10:41] <blahblah> what packages do i need to install to start programming in C?
[10:41] <crimsun> blahblah: build-essential
[10:41] <djm62> stimpie: too late...he'll use it (and break it) when it comes preinstalled
[10:41] <Jaymac> build essential
[10:41] <Jaymac> gcc
[10:41] <goonie> how do I install mplayer? I get a message saying "mplayer-custom:
[10:41] <goonie>  Depends: libavcodec2  but it is not installable"
[10:41] <mcphail> blahblah: vim
[10:42] <_jason> goonie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:42] <blahblah> k thanks...
[10:42] <djm62> aetheros works perfectly here, incidentally (although I didn't install through it)
[10:42] <jenda> I need help changing paper size in Ubuntu using foomatic. And changing it in the printer setup utility doesn't help
[10:42] <M_Cheevy> quick question, when ubuntu puts out a release, how synchronised are the .deb files with debian's sarge distro?
[10:42] <goonie> _jason~ thx
[10:42] <mallox> crimsun: moment..modprobe alsa -> FATAL: Module alsa not found. can it do this shits?
[10:42] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: Not at all.
[10:42] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: Ubuntu forks from Unstable.  And it doesn't sync very well to that.
[10:42] <mwe> goonie: mplayer-custom. what the heck is that? mine is mplayer-386
[10:42] <crimsun> mallox: there's no module named alsa. Do what I told you, please.
[10:42] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: bugger!  so a reinstall is not very desireable
[10:43] <mallox> ok..
[10:43] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: I don't understand.
[10:43] <pipeline> jenda: Is the "printer setup utility" in question gnome-cups-manager? It may be that this issue is a limitation of the driver :|
[10:43] <goonie> mwe~ not sure really, says "this version is for your own machine" or something like that
[10:43] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: I've got a number of problems here. but don't want to re-d/l the 400+ megs it to get to this point.... I was thinking re-install using my sarge disk but....
[10:44] <crimsun> M_Cheevy: we do a massive sync with Sid at the beginning of each devel cycle, and periodically an autosync runs for Sid packages that are unmodified in the devel branch. If we make any changes specific to Ubuntu, then we hand-merge them.
[10:44] <mallox> crimsun: source busy
[10:44] <pipeline> jenda: The LJ1k series have weird drivers, as I mentioned earlier, as they're not /really/ PS or PCL
[10:44] <crimsun> mallox: "source"?
[10:44] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: It's distantly possible that you could upgrade *from* sarge to ubuntu, but I wouldn't want to try it.  Besides, what's wrong with sarge?
[10:44] <mwe> goonie: well I'd try mplayer-386
[10:44] <M_Cheevy> hmmm, maybe burning what I have down to a cd-rw...
[10:45] <kane__> has anyone tried to run som Adobe porgrams under Ubuntu? (wine or cross. office) I mean like Photoshop CS, Premiere PRO, After effects...
[10:45] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: Let's put it this way: upgrading from sarge to ubuntu, you would end up replacing every single package on the system.
[10:45] <mallox> crimsun: sorry..rm: cannot remove directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686//volatile': Device or resource busy
[10:45] <kane__> sorry for the spelling
[10:45] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: You wouldn't save any downloading.
[10:45] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: nothing, but in my case, with dmraid, the installation under ubuntu was a hell of a lot easier and more "by the book" than with sarge
[10:45] <XiCillin> mwe, solved the problem, i'm just going to donwload the full source of the kernel instead of the patch its easier that way ithink
[10:45] <crimsun> mallox: are you using any binary-only modules (nvidia, ati hardware)?
[10:45] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: That's exceedingly odd, as one of the very few things that ubuntu shares with sarge is the installer.
[10:46] <mcphail> kane__: i think that some of the older versions of photoshop run under crossover
[10:46] <jenda> pipeline: The utility I mean is right clicking the printer in administration>printing. I know that people have managed to convince the computer that they're using a4, but I don't know how. This way it prints fuzzy (very).
[10:46] <mwe> XiCillin: what patch is it?
[10:46] <mallox> crimsun: nvidia grafiq card
[10:46] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: wasn't thinking of upgrading from sarge to ubuntu, was just going to use the sarge dvd as ubuntu's source
[10:46] <DA_MELKMAN> allright, I'm sorry for being such a noob, but eh, how to start gnome from command line (somebody has to start learning somewhere eh :))
[10:46] <XiCillin> 2.6.14.4
[10:46] <pipeline> M_Cheevy: Err, well, that might work, sort of, but you'll end up with sarge installed.
[10:46] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: the issue isn't with the installer, the issue is with the quality wiki article that's very ubuntu specific... plus the kernel installed, is newer
[10:46] <crimsun> mallox: ok, find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko'|wc -l
[10:47] <stimpie> DA_MELKMAN, sudo /etc/ini.d/gdm start
[10:47] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: that's what I gathered from what you said and so I've dismissed it as an option
[10:47] <mwe> XiCillin: yeah. configuring and compiling/installing it is quite a mouthful if you haven't tried it before though
[10:47] <jroemling> join
[10:47] <DA_MELKMAN> stimpie k thx
[10:47] <stimpie> iniT.d
[10:47] <M_Cheevy> pipeline: yes, surprising isn't it, someone who asks for advice and then listens to it and acts on it ;)
[10:47] <kane__> mcphail, is there something like trial of crossover? I'd like to try it (as it is comercial product)...
[10:47] <crimsun> M_Cheevy: cross-grades from Sarge are possible with Breezy.
[10:48] <XiCillin> mwe, i've done it.
[10:48] <steve_> is anyone using MPlayer on Ubuntu? If so, how do you install codecs?
[10:48] <mcphail> kane__: there used to be. Check their website
[10:48] <crimsun> M_Cheevy: not officially supported, of course, but they're possible.
[10:48] <cafuego> !test
[10:48] <ubotflu> Stop poking me!
[10:48] <M_Cheevy> crimsun: sounds like it would be wiser not to go that route though....
[10:48] <dooglus> DA_MELKMAN: better is "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"
[10:48] <CaptainMorgan> yes, pipeline, I installed the package..
[10:48] <ndlovu> jenda: check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78272&highlight=paper+size
[10:48] <CaptainMorgan> according to that link..
[10:48] <mwe> XiCillin: you already configured the kernel and compiled and installed it, then make grub use the new kernel and reboot?
[10:48] <DA_MELKMAN> thx dooglus
[10:48] <crimsun> M_Cheevy: of course not, it's not an officially sanctioned path.
[10:48] <M_Cheevy> crimsun: at this point I'll just check my usage stats and if I can just do it over from start...
[10:48] <mwe> XiCillin: that must be a time record
[10:49] <jenda> ndlovu: thx... read through that at least five times already :(
[10:49] <mallox> crimsun: nothitn done..
[10:49] <lightbright> M_Cheevy: hi Mt Chase
[10:49] <steve_> anyone . . installing codecs for mplayer . .
[10:49] <fojtr1am> hello, can anybody explain the function of yaird command?
[10:49] <M_Cheevy> wish I knew what screwed things up thoug so I could avoid it
[10:49] <whaley_work> steve_ there is a package you can install.. i would normally refer to ubotu but he isn't here right now
[10:49] <lightbright> steve_: yes thats easy
[10:49] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I need to restart X
[10:49] <M_Cheevy> lightbright: er, hello... what's Mt Chase?
[10:49] <whaley_work> and i don't have the info bookmarked on my windows machine :(
[10:49] <crimsun> mallox: "nothing done"? It's supposed to give you a number
[10:49] <cafuego> whaley_work: ubotflu is here, ubotus clone.
[10:50] <lightbright> M_Cheevy: I meant Mr Chase, as in Chevy Chase
[10:50] <whaley_work> lol
[10:50] <mallox> crimsun: zero ..
[10:50] <whaley_work> good enough
[10:50] <_ToNhO_>  do anybodyt have an ebook manual for gambas
[10:50] <nalioth> cafuego: thank you.
[10:50] <XiCillin> mwe, haha no, i've done it *before*. but once i get my amd athlon64 X2 4800+ it'll take bou tthat long :-D
[10:50] <stimpie> steve_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:50] <M_Cheevy> Lightbright: nope, not where the nick comes from... do a google on "Miniver Cheevy"
[10:50] <fARbROr^KaLL3> hmm.. any skandinavians here? :P
[10:50] <crimsun> mallox: excellent :) Now, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:50] <stimpie> steve_, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:50] <cafuego> seeing as I can't get at them
[10:50] <cafuego> and they're not answering the phone
[10:50] <mwe> XiCillin: I see
[10:50] <steve_> whaley: I have already downloaded the different codecs, but dont know where to extract the codecs
[10:51] <steve_> lightbright: how is it easy? - Teach me :p
[10:51] <goonie> how do I downgrade my ipw2200 module to 1.0.0 ?
[10:51] <fARbROr^KaLL3>  <-- does those work? :D
[10:51] <CaptainMorgan> stimpie, that's the one
[10:51] <lightbright> steve_: its very easy, believe me
[10:51] <mallox> crimsun: downloading..
[10:51] <mwe> goonie: why would you want that?
[10:51] <djm62> fARbROr^KaLL3: assuming you want to sound like a norwegian in pain, yes
[10:51] <fARbROr^KaLL3> :D
[10:51] <whaley_work> steve_, try: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:51] <lightbright> steve_: what is your objective?
[10:51] <fARbROr^KaLL3> damn.. why all the people whine about my charset :|
[10:51] <mwe> goonie: it lacks features like proper dhcp support and stuff
[10:52] <steve_> stimpie: where do I input that line of commands?
[10:52] <mallox> crimsun: after restart gnome?
[10:52] <stimpie> on console
[10:52] <steve_> Lightbright: I would like to get wmv files to play
[10:52] <lightbright> steve_: use the shell
[10:52] <crimsun> mallox: no, reboot.
[10:52] <mallox> crimsun: or do you want see results?
[10:53] <lightbright> steve_: wheres a website with  wmv ?
[10:53] <stimpie> steve_, read whaley's link first
[10:53] <goonie> mwe~ because my wireless is fubar since I upgraded to breezy... I connect and everything looks fine but I don't get an IP.. static or DHCP.. This machine worked great with warty (ndiswrapper), worse with hoary (shaky ipw2200 module) and not at all now on breezy
[10:53] <mwe> steve_: look at the url whaley_work suggested
[10:53] <butcherbird> any recommendations for sound mixer app? just simple stuff
[10:53] <cyphase> does anyone know why network-manager requires bind9?
[10:53] <goonie> mwe~ I've read that ppl in my shoes have gotten results with 1.0.0
[10:54] <guerby> hi, should I use nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server on unbutu 5.10?
[10:54] <cafuego> guerby: yes
[10:54] <crimsun> mallox: just reboot and ping me when you're back in GNOME.
[10:54] <mwe> goonie: I see. well get the source and firmware from ipw2200.sf.net and read "INSTALL" inside the tarball
[10:54] <stimpie> guerby, user is more secure/stable, kernel is faster
[10:54] <mallox> crimsun: ok..thanx..
[10:54] <goonie> mwe~ thx again
[10:55] <mwe> goonie: iirc it tells you how to get rid of the old modules and install the new - or rather old one
[10:55] <guerby> stimpie, ok, I'll go for faster :)
[10:55] <ndlovu> jenda, try looking in /etc/cups/ppd/. I have to say I'm no expert on the subject, but the files there seem to be configuration files for the printers. You may have some luck editing them, or you may break your system :)
[10:56] <jenda> ndlovu: thanks :)
[10:56] <action09> hi all, i know it's possible on Debian is it possible on Ubuntu to subscribe by mail to infos/version of a package (e.g. nvidia-glx) to know when next version will come..etc
[10:56] <DA_MELKMAN> argh, is there some sort of safe mode to start gnome in (640*480 res)? Looks like i screwed up something, my monitor says "can't display this mode" :S
[10:56] <crimsun> action09: we have dapper-changes.
[10:57] <steve_> stimpie: i inputed the command line, then they prompt me for a password
[10:58] <stimpie> that is the password of the user with administrator rights
[10:58] <stimpie> becarefully if he asks for that
[10:58] <Squee-D> What app can i use to profile my wireless cards throughput?
[10:58] <AudioMove> if you install ubuntu and install KDE later, how do i remove Gnome, apt-get remove gnome doesnt work, i says gnome is not installed.
[10:59] <LjL> AudioMove: it's not very easy at all
[10:59] <action09> crimsun i'm searching only on Hoary
[10:59] <HighHopes> Hello! I wish I could install xorg from scratch in my ubuntu breezy 5.10 that I've installed as server (to have a very clean installation) .. What apt-get package might I download? Thank you!
[10:59] <LjL> AudioMove: anyway, the package you're really looking for is "gnome-desktop", but that won't remove it either anyway
[10:59] <LjL> AudioMove: your best bet is probably to remove some low level packages that are required by most gnome programs, such as libgnome
[11:00] <AudioMove> so if i even try ill risk fucking up my system?
[11:00] <nalioth> HighHopes: xserver-xorg
[11:00] <stimpie> DA_MELKMAN,  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " to reconfigure
[11:00] <LjL> AudioMove: you will only risk if you remove packages that are not actually gnome packages, otherwise no
[11:00] <dell500> does anyone know why  my screen might be going dull then bright, then dull again?
[11:01] <nalioth> dell500: old age?
[11:01] <lightbright> steve_: you really need to firstly learn basics of linux before attempting to install media support etc
[11:01] <LjL> dell500: sounds like a broken monitor
[11:01] <lightbright> steve_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:01] <AudioMove> LjL: cheers, ill give it a whirl, see what happens
[11:01] <butcherbird> dell500, my old monitor used to go dull and orange until i smacked it a few times :)
[11:01] <jenda> ndlovu: Yo! Found it, done it got it! Thanks a bunch.
[11:02] <action09> http://conky.sourceforge.net/conky.png wao :)
[11:02] <mallox> crimsun: yuuuupi...thanx very very much:))
[11:02] <lightbright> dell500: mine does that for about 6months now
[11:02] <DA_MELKMAN> stimpie, thx, but how do i omit the boot to gnome? to access command line?
[11:02] <mallox> crimsun: Im indebted to you..how can I say thankyou?! :)))
[11:02] <steve_> actually I found out how to do it, but thanks for the link to the basic commands
[11:02] <lightbright> LjL: no, its not a broken monitor for a broken monitor doesnt even work
[11:03] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell DA_MELKMAN about bum
[11:03] <Squee-D> lightbright not working to spec is 'broken'
[11:03] <mwe> butcherbird: then it broke completely? :)
[11:03] <Xappe> dell500: first thing I do when the monitor behaves strange is to check the vga connector for bent pins
[11:03] <lightbright> Squee-D: define broken
[11:03] <nalioth> lightbright: if the monitor is going bad, it will exhibit those traits
[11:03] <Squee-D> i just did
[11:03] <Squee-D> not working to spec
[11:03] <Squee-D> "outside of normal operating paramaeters"
[11:04] <lightbright> nalioth: my monitor works and its been displaying those traits for 6moinths, doesnt mean its broken
[11:04] <nalioth> lightbright: there are many levels of "broken"
[11:04] <Kuyaedz> sounds like the same issue I have when routing DVDs thru my VHS.  Maybe its copy protection, for your eyes lol
[11:04] <lightbright> Squee-D: who created that defination of broken?  and who supports that defination?  canthat defination be found in any IT professional literary?
[11:05] <lightbright> nalioth: according to whom?
[11:05] <nalioth> lightbright: let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:05] <Squee-D> lightbright im not sure, are you sure you have a more accurate description?
[11:05] <Squee-D> I only work on experience, as a repairman for several years, we'd call it broke if it didnt do what we want.
[11:05] <nalioth> Squee-D: #ubuntu-offtopic please with this discussion
[11:05] <lightbright> Squee-D: im asking you where you got that defination from?  from a well respected IT professional literay or source?  Or is that your "own" defination?
[11:06] <Squee-D> nal id agree but i dont think i'll give it more wind
[11:06] <lightbright> nalioth: ok
[11:06] <DA_MELKMAN> nalioth, thanks, but the problem is that I can't install bum because I can't reach command line or graphical interface.. is there not a button to goto command line interface automatically when booting?
[11:06] <lightbright> Squee-D: lets keep the body air out of this ;) heh
[11:06] <crimsun> mallox: np
[11:06] <nalioth> DA_MELKMAN: i'm not sure how to do that
[11:06] <hyperactivecrond> !ntfs
[11:06] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:07] <hyperactivecrond> what's with the flu?
[11:07] <crimsun> action09: nothing new goes into Hoary except for security fixes
[11:07] <cafuego> hyperactivecrond: Backup bot
[11:07] <action09> crimsun hmm yes  even nvidia drivers ?
[11:07] <crimsun> thanks, cafuego
[11:07] <crimsun> action09: nothing new.
[11:07] <DA_MELKMAN> like, windows has F6 button to boot to safe mode when you set a resolotion your monitor can't display or something like that... is there nothing like that for linux? else I'll have to re-install :(
[11:07] <action09> crimsun  ok thx :)
[11:08] <lightbright> Squee-D Yes the more accurate definatio of 'broken' found in many IT professional literary and documentation is meaning it doesnt work as a whole!  Because the MAIN objective with a monitor is to DISPLAY, and if its still displaying its NOT broken
[11:08] <lightbright> oops sorry that was provate
[11:08] <lightbright> private
[11:08] <lightbright> cafuego: wb :)
[11:08] <jbroome> DA_MELKMAN: F8 for safe mode. :)
[11:08] <DA_MELKMAN> jbroome, thx!
[11:09] <nalioth> lightbright: Squee-D #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[11:09] <mallox> crimsun: in spite of thank you very much ;-)
[11:09] <mwe> DA_MELKMAN: hey that was just a correction. wont work for ubuntu
[11:09] <thegladiator> my evince doesnt work
[11:09] <lightbright> nalioth: ok
[11:09] <thegladiator> it was working but suddenly stopped working
[11:11] <thegladiator> i am trying a complete removal of evince and reinstallation
[11:11] <thegladiator> can someone help me ?
[11:12] <thegladiator> evince is not working
[11:12] <Kuyaedz> thegladiator: do you need help with uninstallation & re-installation?
[11:12] <thegladiator> nope i did that
[11:12] <thegladiator> reinstalled as well . thanks
[11:12] <thegladiator> but still not working
[11:12] <lillpelle> maybe your .gnome2/evince directory is messed up
[11:12] <Kuyaedz> thegladiator: what is 'not working'? just doesn't start, doesn't open files correctly?
[11:12] <lillpelle> did evince work before?
[11:12] <bulio> is Ubuntu quite secure for a home user?
[11:12] <thegladiator> doesnt start
[11:13] <thegladiator> yeah evince was working fine
[11:13] <bulio> or is security recommened
[11:13] <thegladiator> suddenly it started to say some error
[11:13] <Kuyaedz> bulio: it should be secure by default
[11:13] <Kuyaedz> bulio: ...compared to the alternatives much more secure
[11:13] <bulio> so I don't need any other stuff
[11:13] <thegladiator> The Application "evince" has quit unexpectedly.
[11:13] <thegladiator> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[11:13] <Kuyaedz> bulio: you dont need spyware protection or antivirus, no
[11:13] <thegladiator> and when i click restart it doesnt
[11:13] <bulio> I come from unsecure windows ME hehe
[11:13] <bulio> worst hting on the planet
[11:13] <bulio> I know, no spyware
[11:13] <Kuyaedz> bulio: ME was the worst OS ever--worse than DOS :)
[11:13] <bulio> visited some shady sites to laugh ;)
[11:14] <bulio> I know
[11:14] <lillpelle> thegladiator: Try to remove the .gnome2/evince catalog
[11:14] <mallox> have a nice time to all ubuntu peoples.. ;-)
[11:14] <bulio> I finally got a PC that runs linux
[11:14] <Kuyaedz> bulio: you should be fine w/o any additional programs
[11:14] <bulio> the one upstairs has ME on it
[11:14] <thegladiator> lemme try thar
[11:14] <bulio> ill never use it again heh
[11:14] <Kuyaedz> bulio: if you really want, however, you can install firestarter for firewall protection.
[11:14] <fweih> do you know any gui software in linux like flashget, getzilla, free download manger or any file download manger?
[11:14] <Ophiocus> in x-chat client, is there anyway to actually edit manually which individual servers form a given network i can connect to? my client currently waists more than a minute trying to connect to an unexisting ip before trying another one
[11:14] <bulio> I have a router
[11:14] <bulio> safe enough?
[11:15] <Kuyaedz> bulio: safe enough
[11:15] <bulio> k
[11:15] <mwe> bulio: I have a dedicated gaming pc with only windows xp as os on it. but I tend to use my ubuntu laptop much more
[11:16] <thegladiator> lillpelle,  is it this folder? /home/thegladiator/.gnome2/evince ?
[11:16] <thegladiator> it has a XML file in it
[11:16] <thegladiator> and nothing else
[11:16] <lillpelle> thegladiator: yes that is the folder I meant... try to rename it to something and then try to start evince
[11:16] <dooglus> Ophiocus: you can, yes
[11:17] <Ophiocus> neat, i wouldnt mind some spoon feeding
[11:17] <thegladiator> lillpelle, no luck it still remains
[11:17] <lillpelle> ok :(
[11:17] <ELpH95o> hellooo
[11:17] <thegladiator> The Application "evince" has quit unexpectedly.
[11:17] <thegladiator> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[11:17] <Kuyaedz> thegladiator: kinda basic question, but have you rebooted?
[11:17] <thegladiator> i need evince badly
[11:17] <ELpH95o> i'm a ubuntu newb it's not a bad os
[11:18] <thegladiator> nope
[11:18] <lillpelle> thegladiator: you try with different docs?
[11:18] <thegladiator> i logged out
[11:18] <ELpH95o> it's like debian with suse mixed up
[11:18] <thegladiator> of X and came back in
[11:18] <Kuyaedz> thegladiator: try a reboot & also try different docs. let us know
[11:18] <thegladiator> yeah with different docs
[11:18] <ELpH95o> yup
[11:18] <thegladiator> yes brb
[11:18] <Ophiocus> great, i ll find out then, thanks
[11:18] <ELpH95o> get this..debian is supposedly not easy but fedora wouldnt detect my es1371
[11:19] <dooglus> Ophiocus: select 'server list' from the xchat menu, click the network name, then 'edit' and remove the rogue host
[11:19] <ELpH95o> ubuntu automaticallly di
[11:19] <DRK13> unf unf
[11:19] <ELpH95o> with no work
[11:19] <ELpH95o> there are bugs though but that wil get fixed soon
[11:19] <rosen> dooglus !
[11:19] <Ophiocus> thats not what i wanted
[11:19] <dooglus> Ophiocus: please excuse my slowness.  i'm typing one-handed
[11:19] <dooglus> rosen! :)
[11:19] <Ophiocus> i ll come back here when i find what i want
[11:20] <rosen> dooglus, I'll look you up a little later... you may need two hands for the problem I'm having ;) The ones I've tried to get to help me have given up :O
[11:21] <dooglus> Ophiocus: it may be that your client only knows 'irc.freenode.net', and that has multiple real addresses.  you can remove irc.freenode.net and add real addresses
[11:21] <Ophiocus> see that panel only shows network dns s , am talking about actual ips
[11:21] <Ophiocus> bingo
[11:21] <ELpH95o> I'm going to join the Ubuntu commjunity and contribute some of my time towards it
[11:21] <Kuyaedz> ELpH95o: great :)
[11:21] <dooglus> rosen: what's up?  the other hand can be retrieved with a little effort
[11:22] <Ophiocus> then again, the network am joining must have some kind of address list, i will try to find that and how to evade x-chats automated server selection
[11:22] <thegladiator> lillpelle, Kuyaedz , yes it does work after restart
[11:22] <lillpelle> great
[11:22] <thegladiator> thnkas for the help
[11:22] <Kuyaedz> thegladiator: perfect.  Not sure what would cause it but my system will act funny sometimes too.  reboots help (??)
[11:23] <dooglus> Ophiocus: when you connect, it
[11:23] <thegladiator> ah ok . reboot helps
[11:23] <dooglus> Ophiocus: will tell you the real host name, like kornbluth.freenode.net for instance
[11:23] <jroes> hiya guys, it's unclear where I need to go to upgrade after searching Ubuntulinux.org, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:23] <dooglus> Ophiocus: the list is held server-side
[11:24] <Kuyaedz> jroes: upgrade to?
[11:24] <yo2lux> hi
[11:24] <rosen> dooglus, when I try to download files from another computer on our LAN network most of the times it will stop when it reaches 100% and never actually 'complete' the download
[11:24] <Ophiocus> am more into finding a way to automate the /server [ip] [port]  call at startup so i can choose which actual machine i use
[11:24] <jroes> to the latest, from the previous version
[11:24] <jroes> I don't remember the names, they all sound so similar :)
[11:24] <Ophiocus> i supose i can script it
[11:24] <dooglus> rosen: what are you using?
[11:24] <Ophiocus> thank
[11:24] <yo2lux> i have a question
[11:24] <bimberi> !breezy
[11:24] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:24] <Ophiocus> btw why one handed, you nursing while working like me?
[11:24] <Ophiocus> :D
[11:24] <jroes> thankyou very much
[11:24] <Kuyaedz> jroes: yeah, what ubotu said :)
[11:24] <bimberi> jroes: ^^^
[11:25] <yo2lux> Ubuntu go to commercial way in future?
[11:25] <rosen> dooglus, I mounted his shared folder and I tried drag-drop and copy-paste .. I'm not sure how to do anything else to be honest
[11:25] <dooglus> Ophiocus: do like I said.  edit the host in the network definition in xchat
[11:25] <cafuego> yo2lux: No, never.
[11:25] <yo2lux> Canonical not want to build an enterprise OS?
[11:25] <Ophiocus> so deleting the actual network name allows me to replace it with my server of choice?
[11:25] <dooglus> rosen: I've never seen that.  it's a windows share?
[11:26] <cafuego> yo2lux: That's what Debian is for :-)
[11:26] <cafuego> yo2lux: I quote: Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition".
[11:26] <thegladiator> whats the worldwide estimate of ubuntu users ?
[11:26] <dooglus> Ophiocus: no, edit the network, then edit the hostname
[11:26] <dooglus> thegladiator: 31.5
[11:26] <yo2lux> ok guys thanks!
[11:26] <thegladiator> 31.5 million ?
[11:26] <rosen> dooglus, yeah I found his folder using his hostname (or IP) and the windows share protocol
[11:26] <dooglus> no, 31.5
[11:27] <BenUrban> http://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html
[11:27] <BenUrban> any ideas?
[11:27] <ELpH95o> damn 31.5. million including developers?
[11:27] <ELpH95o> is ubuntu good for development?
[11:27] <thegladiator> 3 million users ?
[11:27] <thegladiator> yeah ubuntu is as good as any other lin for development
[11:27] <ELpH95o> I want to join the ubuntu project
[11:27] <Ophiocus> i ll do that will report on findings
[11:27] <BenUrban> thegladiator: as good as gentoo?
[11:27] <ELpH95o> bvy contributing art and music
[11:28] <ELpH95o> i say we could include some demoscene like tracker music on installation
[11:28] <cmatheson> BenUrban: why would gentoo be any better for development?
[11:28] <BenUrban> cmatheson: it's a source based distro
[11:28] <thegladiator> BenUrban, gentoo is good for new linux users i wud say
[11:28] <BenUrban> ...
[11:28] <dooglus> it depends what you're developing.  it's not the best os for developing windows games for instance
[11:28] <cmatheson> BenUrban: i'm aware of that... i still don't see how that's going to help me develop stuff
[11:28] <thegladiator> best distro for newbies as far as i know is xandros
[11:28] <jroes> BenUrban, ELpH95o: those are very generic and subjective questions.  get specific.  are you looking for a tool that's available on one and not the other?
[11:28] <thegladiator> xandros does have gcc etc though
[11:28] <ELpH95o> mostly just assemblers
[11:29] <ELpH95o> my needs are simple lol
[11:29] <dooglus> everything has gcc
[11:29] <cafuego> ELpH95o: Why not sound themes and gui themes? :-)
[11:29] <thegladiator> but a very good alternative for windows suers to make a switch to  linux
[11:29] <ELpH95o> i have the perfect linux hardware box
[11:29] <BenUrban> every linux distro worth the download has gcc
[11:29] <ELpH95o> a friend built it for me.the only thing it sucks is i hate acpi/apm technology
[11:29] <thegladiator> xandros doesnt have gcc
[11:29] <ELpH95o> xandros doesnt have gcc
[11:29] <dooglus> thegladiator: sure it does
[11:29] <BenUrban> then xandros isn't worth the download
[11:29] <ELpH95o> but it's available right?
[11:29] <cafuego> Normal end users don't NEED a compiler.
[11:29] <ELpH95o> i dont use C
[11:29] <thegladiator> does it ? the oe i had didnt
[11:29] <ELpH95o> i use alot ofcompilers
[11:29] <thegladiator> one*
[11:29] <jroes> ELpH95o: you can disable ACPI/APM from most modern BIOS configuration utilities
[11:30] <Kuyaedz> can anyone point me to a non-gui torrent client?
[11:30] <BenUrban> ElBarono: gcc is for *any* compilation
[11:30] <ELpH95o> my bios is old p4 bios
[11:30] <cafuego> Ubuntu also doesn't install a compiler by default.
[11:30] <yatesy> bittorrent? :P
[11:30] <Lefungus> Kuyaedz, rtorrent
[11:30] <thegladiator> or perhaps i might have made a miostake
[11:30] <dooglus> 'bittorrent', Kuyaedz
[11:30] <jroes> ELpH95o: pretty much the same development tools are going to be available on every Linux distribution
[11:30] <ELpH95o> its a intel d850 board..(friend built it for me so i cant complain)
[11:30] <ELpH95o> that's good to know..brb.i instaled a new kernel hehe
[11:30] <Kuyaedz> bittorrent or rtorrent will run on a server install?
[11:30] <jroes> ELpH95o: you can always compile the tools from source if there aren't any packages
[11:30] <ELpH95o> that's true
[11:30] <BenUrban> no it's not
[11:30] <BenUrban> lol
[11:31] <BenUrban> how do you compile a compiler without a compiler?
[11:31] <dooglus> Kuyaedz: bittorrent will.  never heard of rtorrent so can't say
[11:31] <ELpH95o> i did a server install
[11:31] <Kuyaedz> dooglus: thanks
[11:31] <gimmulf_> best torrent gui client?
[11:31] <[klined] > what are some good wireless utilties that have win32 ports as well?
[11:31] <gimmulf_> !torrent
[11:31] <dooglus> gimmulf_: bitcomet is best i've found.  windows only though :(
[11:31] <ubotu> gimmulf_: Are you smoking crack?
[11:31] <jroes> BenUrban: show me a distribution that doesn't have a package for *cc or doesn't come with it already installed.
[11:31] <gimmulf_> !bittorrent
[11:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[11:31] <thegladiator> i like azureues bit torrent client Kuyaedz
[11:31] <Squee-D> gimmulf_ azureus
[11:32] <mwe> what the heck kinda crappy distro is xandros to not provide gcc anyway?
[11:32] <BenUrban> jroes: damn small linux, i think
[11:32] <yatesy> i think you just answered that one mwe :)
[11:32] <dooglus> azureus is what i use in ubuntu, but it's too memory hungry
[11:32] <thegladiator> its java based program , but azureus is pretty easy and powerful
[11:32] <yatesy> its java of course its memory hungry
[11:32] <rosen> Kuyaedz, I'm fairly sure that bittornado is a terminal only program untill you add the UI from synaptic (or apt-get or whatever)
[11:32] <LazyAce`> in command prompt, how do i get it to read files off of the desktop?
[11:32] <jroes> BenUrban: Damn Small Linux has tcc
[11:32] <thegladiator> Kuyaedz, try out azureues
[11:33] <dooglus> LazyAce`: what 'it'?
[11:33] <jroes> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/notes.html -- see notes "Corrected bug with tcc."
[11:33] <BenUrban> jroes: heh, i wouldn't know
[11:33] <jroes> BenUrban: you're fighting an uphill battle :)
[11:33] <BenUrban> jroes: but that's beside the point
[11:33] <jroes> no, you were already beside the point, that's the point.
[11:33] <LazyAce`> dooglus, right now my prompt is derek@Stewie:~$ how do i get it to desktop ?
[11:33] <BenUrban> jroes: my point was that if there were any, it wouldn't be worth the download
[11:33] <dooglus> LazyAce`: cd Desktop
[11:34] <cafuego> Gogo Gadget Nalioth!
[11:34] <BenUrban> http://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html <-- any ideas?
[11:34] <LazyAce`> dooglus: says no such file or directory
[11:34] <gnomefreak> lazy use a cap D
[11:34] <dooglus> LazyAce`: capital D?
[11:34] <butcherbird> LazyAce`, the ls command should show a Desktop directoy type cd Desktop to change dir to it it is case sensitive
[11:34] <LazyAce`> thank you gnomefreak
[11:35] <LazyAce`> no, i just didn't know =\
[11:35] <LazyAce`> new to this
[11:35] <cafuego> BenUrban: With a CamelCase nick? Not likely.
[11:35] <dooglus> or even copy and paste!
[11:35] <BenUrban> heh
[11:35] <gnomefreak> yw but dooglus typed it how it should have beeen typed :)
[11:35] <yatesy> LazyAce`: rubbish, they told you Desktop :P
[11:35] <LazyAce`> haha, my bad
[11:35] <LazyAce`> i forgot about cap sensitive :(
[11:35] <cafuego> sorry, camel_case :-P
[11:35] <thegladiator> i wud like to install a IDE which one do you recommend ?
[11:36] <thegladiator> anjuta/kde/other ?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> you dont find alot of things in terminal that are case sesnitive but cd'ing to a dir is
[11:36] <dooglus> windows trains people to ignore case I think
[11:36] <gnomefreak> anjuta
[11:36] <StR34k> Has anyone done any work with mpi here?
[11:36] <cafuego> nalioth: Can ya ban 195.242.245.192 too? (spambots)
[11:36] <LazyAce`> yes it does :(
[11:36] <dooglus> gnomefreak: everything in Linus is, isn't it?
[11:36] <StR34k> well mpi_ch
[11:36] <LazyAce`> i hate windows, so im trying to move onto something better
[11:36] <BenUrban> gnomefreak: nearly everything in any linux terminal is case sensitive
[11:36] <yatesy> not just linux, UNIX in general
[11:37] <dooglus> gnomefreak: try running LS for instance...
[11:37] <BenUrban> yatesy: osx
[11:37] <gnomefreak> dooglus not really that i have seen but ive never used caps in terminal other than to cd
[11:37] <BenUrban> actually it depends on the filesystem
[11:37] <cafuego> nalioth: cheers
[11:37] <yatesy> osx what?
[11:37] <nalioth> cafuego: now how long is that gonna last, eh?
[11:37] <BenUrban> hfs/hfs+ are case insensitive
[11:37] <thegladiator> can someone advice a IDE ?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ok dooglus good point :(
[11:37] <cafuego> nalioth: At least 20minutes of non-join-quit goodness.
[11:37] <butcherbird> thegladiator, what for?
[11:38] <dooglus> gnomefreak: that's because most commands, flags and filenames are lower-case.  doesn't mean they're case-insensitive though
[11:38] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, anjuta but that should really be taken off-topic for it may cause a flame :(
[11:38] <BenUrban> gnomefreak: iNt mAiN(vOiD) { ...
[11:38] <yatesy> BenUrban: thats dodgy :/
[11:38] <BenUrban> :P
[11:38] <thegladiator> mostly python/perl/c++ programming
[11:38] <BenUrban> thegladiator: gedit :D
[11:39] <gnomefreak> BenUrban,  that looks more like a start to a C code
[11:39] <BenUrban> gnomefreak: it looks like something that won't compile
[11:39] <thegladiator> just wanna try a IDE
[11:39] <BenUrban> because it's got the wrong case
[11:39] <BenUrban> thegladiator: anjuta doesn't do python or perl
[11:39] <anatole> any tips on why i get a kernel panic when booting from ubuntu installer cd with "boot: linux root=/dev/hdb2"? (hdb2 is my root partition)
[11:39] <BenUrban> kdevelop probably does though
[11:39] <Hentai^XP> gnomefreak: you crazy unix setup is case sentsive, drives me nuts
[11:39] <gnomefreak> BenUrban,  but that wont compile cause in C you cant type it that way so more than liikely it will give you all kinds of errror
[11:40] <BenUrban> gnomefreak: my point is that C is case sensitive too
[11:40] <BenUrban> and so is c
[11:40] <BenUrban> :P
[11:40] <thegladiator> i see anjuta is for c++
[11:40] <yatesy> haha
[11:40] <thegladiator> ok
[11:40] <yatesy> Hentai^XP: go back to windows then :P
[11:40] <BenUrban> yatesy: he is on windows
[11:41] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, anjuta does about 6 languages same with kdevelop kdevelop maybe a few more i havent looked at in in a while
[11:41] <yatesy> he could have a unix server for all i know :)
[11:41] <thegladiator> anjuta supports pyhton and perl ?
[11:41] <BenUrban> gnomefreak: i thought anjuta was the one that only did c, c++, and java
[11:41] <gnomefreak> no BenUrban
[11:41] <markive> anyone have no sound in planetpenguin racer? i got sound everywhere else. :(
[11:41] <gnomefreak> hold on let me open it
[11:42] <dooglus> BenUrban: you do realise that's valid C code, don't you?
[11:42] <Hentai^XP> yatesy: I live windows here
[11:42] <BenUrban> dooglus: it's valid but it won't compile as-is
[11:42] <thegladiator> Hentai^XP, good
[11:42] <dooglus> BenUrban: you have to define the iNt type, but other than that it's OK.
[11:42] <Kuyaedz> I've got bittorrent installed (via apt) but it running 'bittorrent' replies command not found.  suggestions?
[11:42] <BenUrban> dooglus: that's my point
[11:42] <dooglus> BenUrban: like this, for instance: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5798
[11:42] <BenUrban> lol
[11:42] <BenUrban> i know
[11:42] <Hentai^XP> thegladiator ?
[11:42] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, it works ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> anjuta does C/C++ C# perl python java shell and header files and theses another one it says other
[11:43] <QMario> Hello Seveas!!! :)
[11:43] <thegladiator> nice
[11:43] <thegladiator> lemme install
[11:43] <thegladiator> Hentai^XP, why dont u change to linux ?
[11:43] <QMario> Gnomefreak, C#. Hee he hee!!! ;)
[11:43] <dooglus> rosen: I've got my other hand back now.  But I'm still unable to help you, I think.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> i use pythoncard for python but its not installed at this moment
[11:43] <dooglus> rosen: I've never see windows share mounts now work properly.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:44] <dooglus> rosen: sometimes there's a problem if the files are bigger than 2Gb in size.  could that be it?
[11:44] <markive> anyone? i got no sound in planet penguin racer, any know anything about it?
[11:44] <mp3guy> my DVD drive has been acting really bent lately, it won't burn dvds, and has trouble reading some cds/dvds. Also, i might be watching a DVD, and it would randomly just bomb out, or won't let me skip to a certain part of the disc, any ideas?
[11:44] <Hentai^XP> thegladiator: there is no reason to mainly
[11:44] <cafuego> dooglus: Should only be on fat32
[11:44] <thegladiator> Hentai^XP, home user ?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> thats one language i havent tried cause people say its nothing like C/C++
[11:44] <Hentai^XP> thegladiator: ?
[11:44] <dooglus> cafuego: no, it happens with any 'smbfs' share
[11:44] <thegladiator> Hentai^XP, if you are home user without much developing works...then stick on to windows xp
[11:44] <dooglus> cafuego: if you want bigger than 2Gb you have to use CIFS
[11:44] <cafuego> dooglus: Oh that way around...
[11:44] <rosen> dooglus, nah the one I ened the most is just a 400mb *.iso
[11:45] <cafuego> dooglus: I have no issues accessing/moving huge files from Linux samba -> windows client
[11:45] <Hentai^XP> thegladiator: um yeah
[11:45] <cafuego> (tested up to 13GB)
[11:45] <dooglus> cafuego: I guess you're using CIFS then, not SMB
[11:45] <BenUrban> Hentai^XP: come back when you get sick of windows
[11:45] <mp3guy> any ideas?
[11:45] <BenUrban> ;)
[11:45] <cafuego> dooglus: No, that was using smb, about  ayear ago.
[11:46] <BenUrban> http://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html <-- any ideas?
[11:46] <thegladiator> i wonder if the installation deb packages can be stored somewhere in case the system crashes or something
[11:46] <rosen> I didnt have before but all of a sudden out of nowhere it came ... and having installed this whole box in two days (and being a complete newb) I have no idea where to start... It's not my firewall that's for sure
[11:46] <Hentai^XP> BenUrban: I haven't got sick of windows for a while like in 2k2-3 tried some mandrake and others but meh
[11:46] <ubunt-newbie-s> hi i just install ubuntu how do i install perl or gcc and other unix buildigs
[11:46] <thegladiator> so that one could avoid the routine installation for the re-install
[11:46] <BenUrban> Hentai^XP: you will, eventually :P
[11:46] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, its there
[11:46] <Hentai^XP> BenUrban: and whys that?
[11:46] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, go to shell and hit perl
[11:47] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, or type gcc
[11:47] <gnomefreak> i want a perl button :( lol
[11:47] <ubunt-newbie-s> so i dont need to install antying
[11:47] <thegladiator> he he
[11:47] <dooglus> cafuego: I just tried googling for it.  didn't find it yet, but did find a page claiming that ext3 file systems have a maximum file size of 2Gb.  is that true?
[11:47] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, exactly
[11:47] <ubunt-newbie-s>  gcc
[11:47] <ubunt-newbie-s> bash: gcc: command not found
[11:47] <ubunt-newbie-s> ?
[11:47] <jroes> if they aren't installed, you can try "apt-get install perl" or "apt-get install gcc"
[11:47] <dsas> ubunt-newbie-s, install build-essential to get development tools, such as c compiler
[11:47] <IcemanV9> i'm getting a free webcam (logitech quickcam pro 4000) from a friend; i wonder if it does work with ubuntu 5.10?? anyone?
[11:47] <cafuego> ubunt-newbie-s: You will need 'build-essential'
[11:47] <bimberi> ubunt-newbie-s: perl is installed by default, gcc isn't - install build-essential for that
[11:47] <BenUrban> ubunt-newbie-s: i think the package is called build-required or soemthing like that
[11:47] <BenUrban> ah
[11:47] <BenUrban> build-essential;
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ubunt-newbie-s, yes you need to install them if they dont run on command
[11:48] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[11:48] <ELpH95o> back
[11:48] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, normally it exists in most of the systems ; default installation
[11:48] <rosen> !uptime
[11:48] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, giev a try as root
[11:48] <BenUrban> thegladiator: gcc is not installed in the default ubuntu install
[11:48] <ELpH95o> i've not had any trouble with ubuntu..just different "feel" to it
[11:48] <cafuego> IcemanV9: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=logitech+quickcam+pro+4000+++Linux
[11:48] <BenUrban> http://rafb.net/paste/results/13rRn726.html <-- any ideas?
[11:48] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, i see . i didint do nothing while installing but had gcc
[11:48] <Peaker> anyone else experiences firefox 1.0.7 as very unstable?  Crash every 15-20 minutes or worse?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> BenUrban,  doesnt gcc4.0 come as default in ubuntu?
[11:49] <ELpH95o> installing Kubuntu now
[11:49] <ELpH95o> wel kde
[11:49] <ELpH95o> :D
[11:49] <jroes> Peaker: you know 1.5 is out, right?
[11:49] <mwe> Peaker: no
[11:49] <Hentai^XP> BenUrban:  sorry but windows throws more interesting stuff at me to mess with
[11:49] <BenUrban> Peaker: look into the Session Saver extension
[11:49] <Peaker> jroe: apt-get didn't get it..
[11:49] <ubunt-newbie-s> ok how do i make my ubuntu uptdated
[11:49] <jroes> oh, maybe it's not in ubuntu
[11:49] <Peaker> BenUrban: I just got it - appearantly it wants me to explicitly save :-(
[11:49] <cafuego> Peaker: Works OK here. Does yours crash when you access flash websites?
[11:49] <Peaker> BenUrban: I kill -9'd to check and it didn't restore.. or does it use signal handlers to save?
[11:49] <ubunt-newbie-s> after installin ubuntu what do i need to setup a firewall or antivirus
[11:49] <IcemanV9> cafuego: ha. i used "ubuntu" instead of "linux"; got a very few results .. thanks. i'll check with "linux"
[11:49] <BenUrban> Peaker: it auto-saves i thin
[11:49] <BenUrban> k
[11:49] <thrice`> !firewall
[11:49] <ubotu> well, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[11:50] <Peaker> cafuego: Not sure, maybe that's the trigger, but I think some flashes at least don't crash
[11:50] <mwe> Peaker: ff 1.5 not in the repos. and it wont be in breezy
[11:50] <jroes> !firestarter
[11:50] <ubotu> from memory, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[11:50] <cafuego> Peaker: I have this lovely "flash blocker' extension.. :-)
[11:50] <StR34k> has anyone here used ubuntu in clusters?
[11:50] <Peaker> mwe: Ah..
[11:50] <ubunt-newbie-s> what do i need to keep my system uptdated downloaed new kernel or
[11:50] <Peaker> cafuego: Too bad it lets plugin code crash it ... :-(
[11:50] <rosen> Any suggestions to an uptime counter I can put on my desktop ?
[11:50] <BenUrban> rosen: watch is your friend
[11:50] <thegladiator> !update
[11:50] <ubotu> thegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:50] <BenUrban> if you wanna use a terminal
[11:51] <thegladiator> !synaptic
[11:51] <ubotu> methinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:51] <mwe> rosen: gkrelm if you want eye candy
[11:51] <thegladiator> ubunt-newbie-s, check that synaptic link
[11:51] <cafuego> Peaker: yeah, too bad people thinks flash is useful in any way...
[11:51] <rosen> BenUrban, I dont ;)
[11:51] <thegladiator> it tells you about updating
[11:51] <rosen> mwe, I do !! :D
[11:51] <thegladiator> !application
[11:51] <ubotu> thegladiator: I don't know
[11:51] <Peaker> cafuego: well it does "work" well in its domain..
[11:51] <thegladiator> !apt-get
[11:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[11:51] <ubunt-newbie-s> yes i see that
[11:51] <BenUrban> !thegladiator
[11:51] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, BenUrban
[11:51] <Peaker> cafuego: better movie quality/compression ratio
[11:51] <ubunt-newbie-s> i want to updtated my system
[11:51] <thegladiator> see apt-get as well
[11:51] <Peaker> cafuego: for some types of movies, ofcourse
[11:52] <BenUrban> !thegladiator likes to bug ubotu
[11:52] <ubotu> BenUrban: What?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get upgrade updates it oh and dont forget that lil red dot in upper right hand corner of screen :( you cant miss it
[11:52] <thegladiator> those are the utlities that we use in ubuntu to update systems
[11:52] <Peaker> mwe, cafuego : Any idea if firefox has regression tests, or only manual tests?
[11:52] <lightbright> http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[11:52] <thegladiator> its not correct BenUrban ?
[11:52] <thegladiator> i am new out here
[11:52] <gabriel> hola
[11:53] <BenUrban> thegladiator: heh, i was trying to subtly hint that you were bugging ubotu an awful lot
[11:53] <thegladiator> nyways i am out
[11:53] <thegladiator> oh ok np
[11:53] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[11:53] <ubotu> thanks gnomefreak :)
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu your welcome
[11:53] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:53] <korhalf> !botsmack
[11:53] <ubotu> korhalf: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:53] <thegladiator> lol gnomefreak he he
[11:53] <BenUrban> lmao
[11:54] <mwe> heh
[11:54] <gnomefreak> dont smack the bot :(
[11:54] <korhalf> he doesn't speak english, so it's okay
[11:54] <BenUrban> !korhalfsmack
[11:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, BenUrban
[11:54] <BenUrban> lmao
[11:54] <korhalf> lol
[11:54] <gnomefreak> we finally have him back :)
[11:54] <korhalf> !ubotu
[11:54] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:55] <korhalf> ahah
[11:55] <StR34k> lol
[11:55] <ELpH95o> i also use freebsd btw
[11:55] <cafuego> Ubotu is nederlands, doe er een beetje voorzichtig mee.
[11:55] <ubotu> cafuego: I don't know
[11:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: he seems to come and go all the time at the time lately
[11:56] <cafuego> !lart ubotu
[11:56] <gnomefreak> my first month into linux i made mistake of installing freebsd and couldnt figure out how to get gui so same night uninstalled it :(
[11:56] <BenUrban> lol
[11:56] <ELpH95o> what part of the universe you guys in?
[11:57] <ELpH95o> I'm on Earth ..to be specific. usa
[11:57] <StR34k> I'm in Canada :>
[11:57] <bimberi> didn't Douglas Adams call it the "unfashionable corner"?
[11:57] <ELpH95o> awesome
[11:57] <korhalf> ELpH95o: Canada :)
[11:57] <ELpH95o> :)
[11:57] <BenUrban> lol
[11:57] <BenUrban> yes he did
[11:57] <ELpH95o> my friendes :)
[11:57] <ELpH95o> i love canada too
[11:57] <StR34k> Nice :>
[11:57] <StR34k> hehe
[11:57] <korhalf> who said i loved canada
[11:57] <korhalf> i live here, but i dont love it
[11:57] <korhalf> Vote Harper !
[11:57] <ELpH95o> lol
[11:57] <StR34k> I love canada
[11:57] <BenUrban> lmao
[11:57] <StR34k> it's beautiful
[11:57] <ELpH95o> usa has beautiful parts
[11:58] <Kuyaedz> isntalled bittorrent on my server install but it seems to be a service for hosting .torrents.  Is there a client version for non-gui?
[11:58] <ELpH95o> the beuatiful parts are too strict
[11:58] <ELpH95o> utah
[11:58] <xkahn> Peaker: apparently, there are people who think Linus's opinion on desktops is important, and those who don't.
[11:58] <xkahn> Peaker: but he pointed out some interesting points.
[11:58] <yatesy> wierd
[11:58] <jroes> hmm, here's an interesting question.  is it possible to get Multi-User X set up?
[11:58] <Kuyaedz> ELpH95o: i'm in utah & its not so bad :)
[11:58] <BenUrban> jroes: possible?
[11:58] <BenUrban> you mean already done
[11:58] <Peaker> xkahn: His mail was a few sentences long, wasn't it?
[11:58] <xkahn> Peaker: and showed the GNOME developers that outside impressions matter at least a little.
[11:58] <jroes> well, yeah, 'm sure it's possible :)
[11:59] <jroes> just don't know if it goes by a particular name, or what
[11:59] <hyphenated> gnomefreak: when i move in with my girlfriend, I'll want it to be a 3-bdrm house. master bedroom, and a kinda 'personal space' room each
[11:59] <ELpH95o> you know that coffee-howto?
[11:59] <Peaker> xkahn: Yeah.. The weird thing is all the responses about how "KDE looks so ugly by default" and gnome doesn't puzzle me, as I find the default looks exactly the other way around. I think its a European vs. USA thing
[11:59] <ELpH95o> i want to see if linux can make lsd
[11:59] <ELpH95o> lol'
[11:59] <jroes> I would be very surprised if it's not some quick switch to flip, but I have no idea what it would be called
[11:59] <jroes> or where to look
[11:59] <zandaa> can anyone help me with my TV Tuner?
[11:59] <korhalf> ELpH95o: theres a coffee howto?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> hyphenated,  good idea but ive lived alone so long its just really hard to even think about having a rooommate
[12:00] <BenUrban> jroes: it's already enabled