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Riddellhi Hobbsee, fancy packaging the new KMyMoney2?01:15
HobbseeRiddell: ah, if i'm told how to do it, or given a link...01:16
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RiddellHobbsee: apt-get source kmymoney or whatever it's called.  get the new version from their website.  make a .orig with their tar file, copy the debian directory over, run dch -i to increment the changelog and debuild to build it01:17
Riddellred?01:17
Hobbseewhen the nick is mentioned01:17
RiddellHobbsee, Hobbsee, Hobbsee 01:18
Hobbseeyeah, that's it01:18
Hobbseei'll give it a shot - got no idea how successful i'll be01:19
HobbseeRiddell: make an .orig with their tar file?  how do i do that?01:21
Riddellmake sure it's called <packagename>_<upstream.version>.orig.tar.gz01:22
Riddelland contains a directory  <packagename>-<upstream.version>01:22
Hobbseeright, done that01:23
Hobbseecopy the debian directory from...0.8.1 to 0.8.0 source, i presume?01:23
Riddellother way around01:23
Hobbseepresumably i have to untar both directories first?01:25
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Riddellto get the old one do  apt-get source kmymoney201:25
Riddelland it'll download and extract the old package01:25
Riddellwell, current package01:25
Riddellwhich is just the source directory plus a debian/ directory01:26
Riddellcopy accross that debian/ directory01:26
Hobbseeooh, didnt see that folder!01:26
Hobbseeright, now to copy to 0.8.1, i'll need to extract 0.8.1.orig.tar.gz, i presume?01:27
Riddellyes01:27
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RiddellHobbsee: I have to go to bed now, ask freeflying for help or in #ubuntu-motu maybe01:29
Hobbseei'm at the dch -i bit...01:29
Hobbseesays command not found01:29
Riddellapt-get install devscripts fakeroot01:29
Riddellif it build successfully with debuild  do a debuild -S  to make the sources and upload the *orig.tar.gz, *dsc, *diff.gz to a web server and I'll take a look at it01:30
Riddellnight all01:30
Hobbseeah ha!01:30
Hobbseebummer01:33
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=== Hobbsee will be fiddling around with this all day lol
neoncodeHobbsee: Fiddling around with what?01:37
Hobbseekmymoney2, dont worry01:38
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neoncodeHobbsee: How's kmymoney2 comeing along?03:07
Hobbseeneoncode: i need a darned gpg signature for it, which i now have, but is unsigned.  and seeing as i live in australia, it's pretty difficult to get it signed03:08
neoncodeHobbsee: How do you get a GPG signature signed anyway>?03:09
Hobbseesmoke and mirrors lol - take id, get someone in person to verify that you are you, then they can sign your key03:09
neoncodeWait, some persion IRL or online?03:11
Hobbseein real life, which is the problem03:11
neoncodeAhhh...03:11
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Hobbseeit seems even harder to get a gpg sig than to get a drivers licence, which then acts as an identifier...weird03:26
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raphinkI see ktranslator in the list of wanted apps for kubuntu04:36
raphinkI've looked at this app04:36
raphinkand for a multi-lingual dictionary, this is one of the apps with the worst english sentences I've ever seen04:36
raphinkdoesn't feel like trusting it for translation ;)04:36
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seth_k|awayRiddell, ipodslave was uninstallable due to kdelibs4c2 -> kdelibs4c2a, so instead of just rebuilding I yoinked the new upstream verison 0.7.1: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=119909:05
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jjessethe boot screen for kubuntu is great, i love it (dapper flight 2(02:36
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pefhello06:21
Riddellhi pef06:21
Riddellfancy porting kaffeine to gstreamer 0.10?06:21
pefhello Jonathan :)06:21
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Riddellmornfall: you'll be pleased to know that adept works perfectly on powerpc07:25
mornfallRiddell: wow07:25
mornfallRiddell: interesting :)07:25
mornfallit's completely beyond me why though07:25
Riddellmornfall: although I did get a bit confused by the lack of an error message when it didn't have a network connection07:25
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mornfallRiddell: still around?10:53
Riddellmornfall: yes10:56
mornfallRiddell: what do you think of the following idea10:56
mornfallRiddell: to represent package relations in the "browser" as a lister widget (the one which is used to list all packages by default)10:57
mornfallRiddell: but using a tree, with type of relation at top level (depends, recommends, conflicts, ...)10:57
mornfallRiddell: the actualy dependency element on the 2nd level, and the actual packages on 3rd10:58
mornfall(all that could satisfy the relation)10:58
Riddellcould get quite cluttered10:59
Riddella tree-list within a list10:59
mornfallit's more like a tree-list with extendable leaves10:59
mornfalli will try to figure a way to make the recommends/suggests/etc distinct from normal tree items tho11:00
mornfallso it would be11:00
mornfallRecommends11:00
mornfall[+]  mail-transport-agent11:00
mornfall(no [-]  on Recommends, and that one being rendered differently)11:01
mornfallfirst, i want to avoid multiple scrollable areas... that'd plain suck11:01
Riddellwhat's the advantage of that over just listing the packages  Recommends: mail-transport-agent, foo, bar11:01
mornfallRiddell: if you just list them, you can't get at them11:02
Riddellyeah11:02
mornfallRiddell: mail-transport-agent is (on purpose) a virtual package11:02
mornfallRiddell: so you would have to go back to search and search for it11:02
mornfallRiddell: this way, you will expand it and see the packages11:02
mornfallsort of what aptitude does11:02
mornfallRiddell: the other possibility is a plain listview, where the individual packages are clickable11:03
Riddellit sounds a good enough idea, just dangerous in filling up the interface too much11:03
mornfallRiddell: OH11:04
mornfallRiddell: okey, i know what you mean11:04
mornfallRiddell: this data is *not* part of the main list11:04
Riddellwhere is it?11:04
mornfallRiddell: you get a "details" butotn there, which expands the package to full window11:04
Riddellaah, sounds nice then11:04
mornfallRiddell: and depends etc appear there11:04
jpatrickThat does sound nice11:05
mornfallthe lister is going to stay as it is, only one button added11:05
mornfall(so it's "install/remove" and "details")11:05
mornfalli'm just not sure if i want the packages extendable the same way in the relation view11:06
RiddellI'd say yes, but the headers (Depends, Recommends etc) need to be quite distinct so they don't get lost, large bold text11:07
mornfalllistening to The Modern End on World Of Glass by Tristania (2:20/4:45)11:11
mornfallnow if i was actaually at least a *bit* motivated to do anything :'/11:24
mornfalleven the computer is acting stupid11:25
mornfalleven the cursor is jaggy11:27
mornfallload avg 3.5, 2.5, 2.1 and it's *not doing anything*11:27
mornfallFFS11:28
Riddellgamin has been doing things like that recently but you probably aren't running kubuntu flight11:30
Riddellwould "thousands of KDE users are depending on you" motivate at all?11:31
mornfalldunnow11:31
mornfallit's not konqueror, it's not fam, it's not amarok11:31
mornfall(causing the jagginess of everyting)11:31
mornfalleverything11:31
mornfallit's irritating to no end :'(11:33
mornfallAAARGH11:40
mornfallit *was* konqueror11:40
mornfallon the other hand, this *should not happen*11:42
mornfallneed coffee... brb11:50

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