[12:03] <Blissex> mart: it is just a directory with a bunch of DLLs in it.
[12:03] <mart> Blissex: already did :)
[12:04] <Blissex> mart: ahh, or get the original '.tar.gz' from the MPLayer site.
[12:05] <thesamet> any one knows if there is any problem related to libdrm1 in dapper? it says it can not be installed.
[12:17] <fyrmedic> how do I download amarok 1.3.7 and get it installed? It is not in adept
[12:18] <Hobbsee> fyrmedic: go to kubuntu site, get the debs there, and then use the instructions for !deb
[12:18] <keimo> fyrmedic: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[12:18] <fyrmedic> How do I download the debs?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> oh, well there you go
[12:19] <Hobbsee> read the announcement
[12:19] <Hobbsee> it's an extra repository
[12:19] <Hobbsee> i'd forgotten that 1.3.5 was the version where you downloaded the debs off the site
[12:19] <fyrmedic> I will try that thanks
[12:27] <corvax> anyone know of a  a package that can record any sound going through my audio card
[12:28] <mart> corvax: vsound ?
[12:28] <corvax> kind of like wiretap in osx or total recorder in wondows
[12:28] <corvax> yeah i saw vsound
[12:28] <corvax> im ok with it being cli only but not sure what syntax to use to record what i want
[12:29] <mart> um
[12:29] <Voodoo_Vibe> How dan i change what Grub boots as standard??
[12:29] <Voodoo_Vibe> can*
[12:29] <corvax> i want to record the audio coming from a stream  from rhapsody.com
[12:30] <corvax> ya cant plug those streams into stream ripper or xmms etc
[12:30] <mart> sure you can :)
[12:30] <corvax> it plays through a firefox plugin
[12:30] <corvax> *extension
[12:31] <corvax> i have a piad subscritption
[12:31] <mart> corvax: I used to use something like vsound -s realplay <url>
[12:32] <corvax> but the url's arent reall valid url's i think
[12:32] <mart> I guess if you pkill firefox-bin, then start it firefox using vsound -d -s firefox, it might work
[12:32] <mart> corvax: you mean they point to text files?
[12:33] <corvax> lemme go look
[12:33] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: rearrange your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:33] <Voodoo_Vibe> Hobbsee: to the rescue once again!! Thanx! :)
[12:34] <Hobbsee> :) no problems
[12:35] <Voodoo_Vibe> Hobbsee: should i put that i want as standard on the top of the list??
[12:37] <manveru> !sources
[12:37] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:37] <corvax> http://www.rhapsody.com/player?type=track&id=3052241&title=Hurt&remote=false&page=null&pageregion=null&guid=null&from=guide&afftr_src=&afftr_opage=&afftr_ocode=&afftr_pcode=&afftr_rsrc=&afftr_cpath=#
[12:37] <corvax> ugh i shoulda paste binned
[12:38] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: yes
[12:38] <corvax> but thats what they are
[12:38] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: after all the examples and all that
[12:38] <bimberi> Voodoo_Vibe: you can also just chance the number next to default
[12:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> Hobbsee: Ok, Thanx
[12:40] <dmlinux> anyone have any suggestions on how to improve on battery life inside of Kubuntu ?
[12:42] <dmlinux> anyone ?
[12:42] <Frymaster2> roight,
[12:43] <Frymaster2> managed to boot back into windows and check the iso, md5 checks out
[12:43] <Frymaster2> CD was verified when burned
[12:44] <Frymaster2> to recap, when installing kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso some kind of error occurs while creating the 1st user, such that the prompt screens endlessly cycle
[12:44] <Frymaster2> if you force the install, the computer will eventually reboot and then complain about empty password
[12:45] <dmlinux> Frymaster2 are you trying to install Kubuntu from the iso cd?
[12:45] <Frymaster2> briefly errors like "user pgc does not exist" and "group pgc does not exist" flash up (pgc being my chosen username) before the system asking me for password again
[12:45] <Frymaster2> aye
[12:46] <dmlinux> Frymaster2 i couldnt install kubuntu from the iso with 5 different downloads. and all md checksums were fine
[12:46] <Voodoo_Vibe> I only get funny fonts in Wine, like rectangels! What can that be??
[12:46] <Frymaster2> sounds like some kind of font problem Voodoo_Vibe but I know sod all about wine I'm afraid :)
[12:47] <dmlinux> msstcorefons Coodoo_vibe
[12:47] <dmlinux> msstcorefonts Coodoo_vibe
[12:47] <dmlinux> msstcorefonts Voodoo_vibe sorry somehow i forgot how to spell
[12:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: thanx will check it out
[12:47] <Frymaster2> dmlinux, any pattern to the not-installingness, or was it quite random?
[12:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: happens to everyone! :)
[12:47] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe in adept look for Mss should come up as that
[12:48] <dmlinux> Frymaster2 i got the red screen of install death, every install, and 2 of them had different errors.
[12:48] <Frymaster2> heh
[12:48] <Frymaster2> at least I didn't get that
[12:49] <dmlinux> Frymaster2 i think its a big bug with hardware, i would suggest you install Ubuntu and upgrade to KDE, getting rid of gnome if you dont like it
[12:49] <Frymaster2> tho if I forced away from the recurring prompts, I somehow got out of the kubuntu install and into standard debian install, gave it a root password and everything :)
[12:49] <Frymaster2> still couldn't set up a user tho
[12:50] <dmlinux> hmm
[12:50] <dmlinux> did you try Ubuntu ( gnome install ) iso ? and install it that way?
[12:50] <Frymaster2> no,
[12:50] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: cant find anything like that
[12:50] <dmlinux> try it,
[12:51] <Frymaster2> spent the last hour forcing this injured install along so it would install a bootloader & I could get my winxp partition back :)
[12:51] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe ok lemme look it up
[12:51] <Frymaster2> kind of defeats the point of having a kubuntu disto / website if it don't work tbh :D
[12:51] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: Ok
[12:52] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe msttcorefonts thats the name sorry
[12:52] <Frymaster2> there's no indication anywhere on the kubuntu website of any kind of serious problems with the install... especially since my problems occurred WELL before anything to do with KDE or X
[12:53] <dmlinux> Frymaster2 couldnt tell you but every Ubuntu install was flawless and ever KUBUNTU install was like drilling spikes under my nails
[12:53] <mart> Frymaster2, doesn't the installer keep a log?
[12:53] <dmlinux> aye
[12:53] <Frymaster2> very possibly, feel free to tell me where :)
[12:53] <mart> in something like /target/var/log/debian-installer
[12:53] <dmlinux> it should say the log file with the error
[12:54] <Frymaster2> tho I'd have to reboot to see it
[12:54] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: cant find that either. tried sudo apt-caches search mst too, but nothing
[12:54] <Voodoo_Vibe> cache*
[12:54] <dmlinux> yu in adept?
[12:55] <Zugot> why is it going to take 8 hours to do a full backup on my laptop?
[12:55] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: Yepp
[12:55] <Zugot> this sucks
[12:55] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: what were you looking for?
[12:55] <Zugot> i want linux on there now
[12:55] <Hobbsee> !msttcorefonts
[12:55] <ubotu> well, msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[12:55] <dmlinux> Voodoo_Vibe http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_1.2_all.deb
[12:55] <Voodoo_Vibe> Hobbsee: i get rectangels instead of letters in wine
[12:56] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: Thanx
[12:56] <dmlinux> np know how to dpkg -i things?
[12:56] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: dpkg??  :)
[12:57] <dmlinux> its how you install .DEB  files
[12:57] <Hobbsee> !deb
[12:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:57] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: no just installed src
[12:57] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe ok download the file i linked you
[12:57] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: get the msttcorefonts, from where the factoid says above
[12:58] <dmlinux> Hobbsee it wouldnt hurt for him to learn the way im tellinghim too do it
[12:58] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:58] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: yepp downloaded and in dir
[12:58] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe
[12:58] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe ok now navigate to where you downloaded it to with konqueror
[12:59] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: yepp
[12:59] <igorayeb> What i do with this problem: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:59] <dmlinux> ok now copy the adress ( in the address bar)
[12:59] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe now open up a terminal VIA konsole
[12:59] <dmlinux> got it?
[01:00] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe
[01:00] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: yepp in dir in konsole
[01:00] <dmlinux> ok now type cd (dont hit enter yet) , then paste the address of the folder that you downloaded the file to
[01:01] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: yes done that
[01:01] <igorayeb> What i do with this problem: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:01] <dmlinux> it should look something like this: cd /home/USERNAME
[01:01] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe now type in sudo dpkg -i msttcorefonts_1.2_all.deb
[01:01] <Hobbsee> dmlinux: dont forget about the "sudo apt-get install cabextract" too...
[01:03] <dmlinux> i never had to do that
[01:04] <dmlinux> Voodoo_Vibe it workin?
[01:04] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: dont work. and ive done apt-get install cabextract
[01:04] <dmlinux> what does it say
[01:05] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/466015
[01:05] <dmlinux> umm
[01:05] <dmlinux> is that your language?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: what language is that in, for a start?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:05] <dmlinux> lol
[01:06] <Voodoo_Vibe> LOL!! sorry!
[01:06] <Voodoo_Vibe> well, all in all it says the file doesnt exist
[01:06] <MrClever> igorayeb: install "build-essential" package: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:07] <Hobbsee> Voodoo_Vibe: ah, i see - so where did you stick the file?
[01:07] <dmlinux> oh ok , go to the file , right click it , hit properties, and when the props come up select all the text in the name, and rewrite the sudo dpkg -i with new name
[01:07] <T3hWiz0rd> Insomniac-:
[01:07] <dmlinux> make sure it highlights the .deb when you do it , it defaults as only selecting the name
[01:07] <Frymaster2> cheers for your help every1, will just install ubuntu tomoz instead :(
[01:07] <dmlinux> k later Frymaster2
[01:10] <dmlinux> get it Voodoo?
[01:10] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: im trying but just get the same thing
[01:10] <dmlinux> okie..
[01:11] <dmlinux> !msttcorefonts
[01:11] <ubotu> msttcorefonts is, like, totally, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[01:11] <dmlinux> im not there so i cant tell exactly what is happening, whether its not in the folder you are in or what
[01:12] <dmlinux> Hobbsee what is the REpo that he needs
[01:12] <Hobbsee> multiverse...
[01:12] <Hobbsee> says in the factoid lol
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !info msttcorefonts
[01:12] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:12] <dmlinux> ah kk all you need to do than Voodoo_vibe is go to a konsole and type sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <dmlinux> hobbsee i wasnt sure if the multiverse was in the base install of kubuntu
[01:13] <Hobbsee> it's not, you have to add it
[01:13] <Hobbsee> !repos
[01:13] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to send automatically the identify message using konverstation?
[01:14] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe you bring up /etc/apt/sources.list with kedit yet?
[01:14] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: yepp
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !repos
[01:14] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:14] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe replace everything in that file with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2325
[01:15] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: um, you mean the one that shows in the whois?
[01:15] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: everything!!??
[01:15] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe only what is displayed in the brown box in the middle
[01:15] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe aye should be  about 23 lines, in the brown box
[01:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the following: /msg NickServ IDENTIFY PASSWORD
[01:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to automatize it?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: yes
[01:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> finding that, lol...
[01:17] <Hobbsee> server list, freenode, edit, click on the server, edit, password, ok, ok
[01:17] <dmlinux> Voodoo_vibe after you have done that , save it and exit out of that . Now go back to konsole and type sudo apt-get update
[01:17] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: got it updating now
[01:18] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux: yepp and ive did sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts  Worked perfect!! Thanx!!
[01:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nx
[01:19] <dmlinux555> sorry got dissconnected Voodoo_vibe
[01:19] <dmlinux555> Voodoo_vibe what point are you at
[01:19] <Voodoo_Vibe> dmlinux555: im done it worked perfect!! Thanx alot!!
[01:20] <dmlinux555> np bro
[01:35] <simplex> tralalala jemand da? ^^
[01:39] <_frank> !de
[01:39] <ubotu> methinks de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:43] <_nano_> how does one find out if 3d is enabled or not ?
[01:43] <Insomniac-> type glxinfo in a konsole
[01:44] <Insomniac-> glxinfo|grep render
[01:44] <_nano_> Insomniac-, thanks , lemme check that out
[01:46] <_nano_> Insomniac-, sizeof(RADEONDRIRec) == 100, devPrivSize 100
[01:46] <_nano_> direct rendering: Yes
[01:46] <_nano_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20050528 AGP 4x TCL
[01:47] <_nano_> Insomniac-, does that mean 3d is working?
[01:47] <Insomniac-> think so
[01:47] <MrClever> _nano_: it appears to be.
[01:47] <Insomniac-> try some opengl program and see
[01:47] <Insomniac-> i can recommend supertux :)
[01:47] <_nano_> Insomniac-, ok trying :P
[01:52] <_nano_> Insomniac-, wow nice game :D , but is it 3D?
[01:53] <Insomniac-> it is when you start it with --opengl
[01:53] <_nano_> Insomniac-, oops, lemme try again
[01:55] <_nano_> Insomniac-, it's working
[01:55] <_nano_> Insomniac-, nice game tho :D, just like mario
[01:57] <_nano_> Insomniac-, there's one more issue, my window behavior is sluggish....in the sense scrolling, dragging etc....what seems to be the problem?
[01:57] <Insomniac-> too much eyecandy features probably
[01:57] <Insomniac-> s/much/many/
[01:57] <_nano_> Insomniac-, i mean it's for any app, especially firefox
[01:58] <_nano_> Insomniac-, I'm using xfce4 now because of that, but still
[01:58] <Insomniac-> i'm still looking for the option to turn off the transparant box kde draws when selecting multiple files
[01:58] <Insomniac-> slows my pc down to a crawl
[01:58] <_nano_> Insomniac-, whats your config?
[01:59] <Insomniac-> athlon 1200/512mb
[01:59] <_nano_> processor speed?
[01:59] <_nano_> graphics card?
[01:59] <Insomniac-> nvidia geforce2 gts and a matrox g200
[02:00] <_nano_> oh i'm stuck with old ati 7500 which doesn't seem to be supported by radeo ppl
[02:00] <Insomniac-> ordered my new system yesterday
[02:00] <Insomniac-> \o/
[02:00] <_nano_> what's that gonna be ? :P
[02:00] <Insomniac-> asus A8N-VM-CSM mainboard with 2GB ram and a athlon64 3200+
[02:01] <_nano_> wow!
[02:01] <Insomniac-> that's a microatx board
[02:01] <Insomniac-> nvidia video on board
[02:01] <Insomniac-> sata, gbit lan, the works
[02:02] <Insomniac-> putting it into a aopen h360b microatx case that'll fit into my backpack
[02:02] <Insomniac-> semi portable computing :)
[02:02] <Insomniac-> instead of a external hd i just bring the entire thing
[02:02] <hackter> hello !
[02:03] <hackter> on the website of kubuntu, I can download Breezy and Dapper ISO. What is Dapper ? the unstable branch ???
[02:03] <_nano_> Insomniac-, haha :P
[02:04] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[02:04] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[02:05] <sbms> hello
[02:05] <hackter> Hobbsee: oh really kind this command :) thank you Hobbsee
[02:06] <Hobbsee> no problems hackter - if you want a stable system, you  might want to get breezy lol
[02:06] <Insomniac-> why 6.04 and not 6.0 or similar?
[02:07] <Insomniac-> 6.04 stands for the 4th month of 2006?
[02:07] <crimsun> yes.
[02:07] <crimsun> just as 5.10 is October 2005
[02:07] <neoncode> THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM!!!
[02:07] <neoncode> Finaly I know...
[02:09] <hackter> Hobbsee: oky
[02:09] <sbms> do anyone inhere know anything about c++ ?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> hehe neoncode
[02:09] <_nano_> sbms, it's a programming language :D
[02:10] <sbms> ha ha
[02:11] <Insomniac-> crimsun: will it include april fools jokes? ;)
[02:19] <T3hWiz0rd> Insomniac-: :-DD
[02:19] <Insomniac-> T3hWiz0rd :)
[02:20] <T3hWiz0rd> Insomniac-: sup guy?
[02:20] <Insomniac-> nm just woke up
[02:20] <Insomniac-> trying to get that dusty old amd400 working
[02:20] <Insomniac-> not having much luck
[02:21] <Insomniac-> if a different power supply won't work i'm screwed
[02:21] <Insomniac-> i think the mainboard is definately broken
[02:22] <T3hWiz0rd> Insomniac-: tragic
[02:22] <Insomniac-> oh well i don't have a use for it anyway
[02:23] <Insomniac-> i'll put it on ebay or the like either way to save some closet space
[02:25] <Insomniac-> maybe i'll sell my current system as well after the new one arrives
[02:27] <T3hWiz0rd> or give it to me
[02:27] <T3hWiz0rd> i'll turn it into a rack server lmao
[02:27] <Insomniac-> maybe i'll sell my 2x 17" CRT as well and buy 2x 19" TFT
[02:33] <_nano_> has anyone tried out composite? does it hog a lot of resources?
[02:34] <_nano_> Insomniac-, 19'' :O you a gamer or something? :P
[02:34] <Insomniac-> not really
[02:35] <_nano_> Insomniac-, lookin at 19" would involve moving one's head a lot ;)
[02:35] <Insomniac-> but i multitask alot so i like a large screen area to work with
[02:35] <Insomniac-> it's ideal to have documenation open on one screen and trying to do something on the other
[02:36] <_nano_> Insomniac-, true
[02:37] <Insomniac-> only game i still play once in a while is tfc
[02:37] <Insomniac-> been playing that one since the day it was released
[02:37] <Insomniac-> can't seem to get steam to work with wine though
[02:38] <_nano_> Insomniac-, oh i used to play counterstrike, but only on windows
[02:40] <Insomniac-> haven't played cs since the betas
[02:41] <Insomniac-> where you could change your model to a hostage, hide with the hostages, and ambush people ;)
[02:41] <lars> hi
[02:41] <_nano_> Insomniac-, played AA ?
[02:41] <Insomniac-> no
[02:42] <_nano_> Insomniac-, couldn't get it running on ubuntu, I just see lines and cones :(
[02:42] <lars> com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath.
[02:42] <lars> Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK
[02:42] <lars> i have a problem while do a "make" with kubuntu 5.10. the error is: ^^
[02:42] <lars> can anybody help me n00b?
[02:43] <_nano_> lars, probably you've to include the path in your environment variables?
[02:43] <_nano_> lars, in your bashrc file?
[02:44] <lars> nano, where can i find them?
[02:46] <_nano_> lars, in your home directory
[02:46] <_nano_> lars, .bashrc
[02:46] <ClayG> anyone here use ISPconfig?
[02:48] <lars> nano, i am working as root but i can`t find in /root/ the directory .bashrc
[02:49] <_nano_> lars, do an ls -al
[02:49] <lars> nano, i found it
[02:49] <_nano_> lars, ok :)
[02:50] <lars> nano, there is no JAVA_HOME. can i write this into the file without trouble?
[02:52] <_nano_> lars, i'm sure java's online documentation would have a section on adding path variables
[02:53] <lars> ok, thx :)
[02:56] <_nano_> !java
[02:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:56] <_nano_> !3d
[02:56] <ubotu> _nano_: I haven't a clue
[02:56] <_nano_> !dri
[02:56] <ubotu> Not a clue, _nano_
[02:56] <_nano_> !ati
[02:56] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:57] <_nano_> !composite
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks composite is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.
[02:57] <jilocasin> I think KDE is pooched
[02:57] <_nano_> jilocasin, lilke how?
[02:57] <_nano_> *like
[02:58] <jilocasin> _nano_ like every control panel app, bubble help, konqueor opens WAY WAY too big.
[02:59] <jilocasin> _nano_: I've got a 19" monitor at 1280x1024, I've tweeked all the settings I can find so that the window titles, etc are appropriate, but nothing seems to fix kde itself
[03:00] <jilocasin> _nano_: It's like konqueor is set to take up 2/3 of your screen when opening, fine if you've got a 15"  mon, rediculous at 19"
[03:01] <jilocasin> _nano_: is there a way to resize konqueor so that it doesn't open up to 2/3 of my screen?
[03:01] <_nano_> jilocasin, if you resize the browser and close it, it opens with the last resized size i guess -- that's if its not maximized
[03:01] <jilocasin> _nano_ that's what you might think. Not what happens
[03:01] <_nano_> jilocasin, i use firefox and it works that way for me
[03:02] <jilocasin> _nano_: Firefox remembers it's size, Konqueror doesn't.
[03:03] <jilocasin> _nano_ :I've just opened both.  FF remembers, Konq loads a "Conquer your Desktop" page (can't reset the start page) at 2/3's my monitor
[03:03] <_nano_> jilocasin, aah i see
[03:03] <jilocasin> _nano_: It's like that with all of the "KDE" things.
[03:04] <jilocasin> _nano_: KInfo center
[03:06] <_nano_> jilocasin,http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=13570
[03:06] <jilocasin> _nano_: system setings, Network settings opens to over a quarter of my screen, and it's too small to display the  buttons across the bottom
[03:06] <_nano_> jilocasin, try the above thread -- see if that helps
[03:08] <jilocasin> _nano_: Read it, doesn't seem to apply to all of the other KDE siz eproblems
[03:09] <jilocasin> _nano_: Feels like KDE is set to open as a fixed percentage of screen.  Might work great when you rev up the resolution on a 14" or 15" monitor, blows chunks on a big screen.
[03:11] <_nano_> jilocasin, sorry i don't have much idea, you might wanna try #kde channel
[03:11] <_nano_> !kde
[03:11] <ubotu> hmm... kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:12] <jilocasin> _nano_: example.  Window 320x240 at 640x480 = 1/2 screen.  at 1280x960 should be 1/4 screen.  KDE seems to make it 640x480, keeping it at half my screen.
[03:12] <jilocasin> _nano_: as I rev up the resolution, I want the ballons, windows, icons, to scrink proportionally
[03:13] <jilocasin> I'll try kde
[03:13] <_nano_> jilocasin, yeah i think kde channel would be the best place to get these answers
[03:16] <_nano_> !gaim
[03:16] <ubotu> I guess gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[03:18] <wezlo> evening all
[03:24] <Slyder0244> i'm having a problem with make can anyone help me out http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/466149
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Slyder0244: try sudo apt-get install libimlib2-dev
[03:32] <Slyder0244> hobbsee to the rescue again
[03:33] <zaphar_ps> are the ubuntu repositories down?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> i wouldnt bet on it being *right*, but i hope that will fix it
[03:33] <Slyder0244> nope didn't fix it
[03:33] <zaphar_ps> I can't update or install packages
[03:36] <vladimir> hi1
[03:36] <vladimir> hi!
[03:36] <vladimir> somebody knows the server where emuleplus connect?
[03:37] <vladimir> alguien habla ac?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> cna You apt install bahira?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> cna You apt install baghira?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !info kwin-baghira
[04:12] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: (KDE theme for Apple junkies :)), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.7a-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 693 kB, Installed size: 2036 kB
[04:12] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: use apt-cache search :P
[04:22] <Salvo> anyone knows how to setup a printer that working on lan with win98?
[04:23] <MrClever> Anyone know common reasons why Amarok would not fetch lyrics in the side-bar thing, but hitting the "Open in External Browser" button pulls up the lyrics?
[05:08] <_nano_> is there any temperature monitoring applet for kde?
[05:08] <Insomniac-> maybe superkaramba
[05:08] <Insomniac-> or gkrellm
[05:08] <Hobbsee> ksensors
[05:09] <_nano_> thanks guys :)
[05:20] <_nano_> Insomniac-, Hobbsee, is there any that sit on the system tray? just like klaptop?
[05:21] <Insomniac-> dunno i don't use one myself
[05:21] <Hobbsee> _nano_: ksensors does
[05:21] <_nano_> Hobbsee, thanks
[05:21] <Hobbsee> no problems
[05:23] <Slyder0244> i've having some problems compiling from source, anyone think they can help http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/466149
[05:33] <_nano_> Hobbsee, so how do I get it running? i just did an apt-get install
[05:33] <Hobbsee> alt+f2, ksensors?  something like that, i recall
[05:43] <_nano_> Could anyone suggest a good blogging client for kde?
[05:47] <manveru> _nano_: the only one i can think of is blogtk...
[05:47] <manveru> but that's not really kde :(
[05:48] <_nano_> manveru, oh ok :( blogtk has problems with blogger.com :(
[05:49] <manveru> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29552
[05:50] <_nano_> kde-apps site is working for you?
[05:50] <manveru> no :|
[05:51] <manveru> thought it would work for you
[05:51] <_nano_> its not :(
[05:51] <_nano_> how did you get that link then?
[05:51] <manveru> http://philwilson.org/blog/2005/11/kde-blog-posting-client-needed.html
[05:51] <_nano_> hehe
[05:51] <_nano_> ok :P
[05:51] <_nano_> thanks anyways :)
[05:51] <manveru> np
[05:51] <manveru> searched one for a while as well... but never found one
[05:55] <_nano_> manveru, hey did you take the linux distro test that's mentioned in one of the comments?
[05:55] <_nano_> manveru, http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
[05:55] <manveru> if it's the one i think of, yeah
[05:55] <Tm_T> nalioth: torsmo works here very well
[05:55] <Tm_T> last exams ->
[05:57] <_nano_> manveru, i got ubuntu followed by kubuntu :D
[05:59] <manveru> hmm
[05:59] <manveru> i get kubuntu followed by MEPIS and Xandros...
[05:59] <manveru> odd... very odd...
[06:01] <manveru> and the description of Kubuntu is the one for Ubuntu
[06:01] <manveru> since i doubt that kubuntu comes with Gnome 2.10 :)
[06:01] <_nano_> yeah that's the strange part , i guess those guys didn't do their homework :P
[06:05] <manveru> hmm
[06:07] <ilba7r> kubuntu is ubontu with kde as desktop env so what is the odd that they both have same goals
[06:07] <ilba7r> ubuntu is the same packages with gnome as desktop manager
[06:07] <manveru> what do you mean with 'goals'?
[06:07] <ilba7r> download either and you can later make the switch to kde or gnome or any other wm of your whim
[06:08] <ilba7r> they have basically the same packages and are the same company
[06:08] <ilba7r> as i am sure you can also download gnome for mepis and xandros
[06:08] <manveru> you know - there are people who cannot download so much - some even have no internet :)
[06:09] <manveru> and of course you can install the DE you like best everywhere
[06:09] <ilba7r> manveru the beauty of ubuntu is they are willing to send their cds to your home free of charge
[06:09] <ilba7r> check up the webpage i did not heare any other distro do that
[06:09] <manveru> ilba7r: i know about that
[06:10] <ilba7r> :)
[06:10] <manveru> with dapper there will be free cds for kubuntu as well ^^
[06:11] <manveru> but i'm really tempted to try slackware sometime
[06:12] <ilba7r> i was tempted to try gentoo, and freebsd
[06:12] <ilba7r> lol freebsd did not even support my harddisk
[06:12] <ilba7r> and gentoo was a pain
[06:12] <manveru> hehe
[06:12] <manveru> well, i was on gentoo for a year
[06:12] <manveru> but i think i spent half a year on compiling stuff
[06:13] <ilba7r> lol
[06:13] <manveru> it was not that bad... but it was _very_ annoying after a while to care about all your configuration and stuff
[06:13] <ilba7r> i am just going to stick with what i know best now spend my time elsewhere
[06:14] <ilba7r> manveru is it true you had to configure each new package you install
[06:14] <manveru> almost
[06:15] <ilba7r> so every package you need to do your home work lol
[06:15] <manveru> you had to be aware of the whole system-configuration :)
[06:15] <manveru> this is why i came back to debian (or in this case - kubuntu)
[06:15] <ilba7r> so i made the right choice for my self then lol
[06:15] <manveru> and since three days i'm on xubuntu now
[06:15] <DShepherd> kde 3.5 is in the packages for breezy?
[06:16] <manveru> !sources
[06:16] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:16] <manveru> !kde3.5
[06:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:16] <DShepherd> thanks manveru
[06:16] <ilba7r> i really had high hopes for freebsd and was little disappointed. I have high hopes for opensolaris
[06:16] <manveru> opensolaris? :)
[06:17] <manveru> i thought that is only for sun-workstations or something
[06:17] <ilba7r> ya they have opened there source Solaris 10
[06:17] <ilba7r> there is an alpha distro affiliated with ubuntu and trying to be  part of debian using solaris kernel
[06:19] <manveru> hmm, i never had one of these boxes
[06:19] <ilba7r> http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Nexenta_OS
[06:19] <ilba7r> it works on x86
[06:19] <ilba7r> solaris now work on nearly every processor
[06:19] <manveru> what is the advantage?
[06:20] <ilba7r> stability and little bit of speed
[06:20] <ilba7r> if you do a lot of scientific stuff
[06:20] <ilba7r> there are review articles on it at distrowatch
[06:20] <ilba7r> the opensolaris project
[06:21] <manveru> i don't do lots of scientific stuff... i'm only a ruby-ninja :)
[06:21] <ilba7r> lol
[06:22] <DaSkreech> ruby ninja?
[06:22] <manveru> #=> "guy who codes ruby all day"
[06:28] <DaSkreech> :-D
[06:30] <bob_marley> how to install divx in kubuntu
[06:32] <Slyder0244> i've having some problems compiling from source, anyone think they can help http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/466149
[06:41] <manveru> !divx
[06:41] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:42] <manveru> Slyder0244: what's kompose ?
[06:42] <manveru> !info kompose
[06:42] <ubotu> kompose: (full screen task manager for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 356 kB
[06:42] <manveru> Slyder0244: why do you want to compile it?
[06:46] <Slyder0244> so i can install it but beyond that i can't compile anything i always get a make error so i was just using that as an example
[06:46] <manveru> have you got build-essentials?
[06:47] <Slyder0244> sure do
[06:47] <manveru> !file imlib2-config
[06:48] <nalioth> Tm_T: what crack are you smoking? i commented on torsmo HOURS ago.. .. ..
[06:49] <manveru> !xincludes
[06:49] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[06:49] <manveru> Slyder0244: ok, maybe you should try a simple 'apt-cache search imlib' :)
[06:51] <manveru> oO
[06:51] <Slyder0244> yea i have imlib2 and imlib2-dev
[06:53] <manveru> well, in every case this cannot be a common problem for other compilations
[06:54] <manveru> normally ./configure should have barked on that
[06:54] <Slyder0244> well all i know is everything goes well till it gets to make and then i always get an error
[06:54] <Slyder0244> yea on ./configure everything comes up fine and then when i move on to make i get an error
[06:54] <manveru> btw, do you know checkinstall?
[06:55] <Slyder0244> no i don't
[06:55] <manveru> !checkinstall
[06:55] <ubotu> somebody said checkinstall was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[06:56] <ilba7r> slyder0244 i know it might be just a simple but did you check if the make want to write to a dir that you do not have write access too
[06:56] <Slyder0244> well i did a sudo make so it should have access everywhere shouldn't it
[06:57] <ilba7r> manveru are there other alternatives to checkinstall to generate a deb bin
[06:57] <ilba7r> yah it should
[06:57] <manveru> ilba7r: it generates .debs
[06:57] <manveru> you only have to use it with the -D flag
[06:57] <ilba7r> manveru i know i use it all the time it just monitor whaterver files are installed where
[06:58] <ilba7r> but was curious if there are other alt
[06:58] <manveru> oh... i think so
[06:58] <manveru> but i used it for years now without problems :)
[06:59] <ilba7r> yah i think as i said before i should just stick with what i know lol
[06:59] <Tm_T> nalioth: I was sleeping, night time you know?
[06:59] <Tm_T> ;-P
[07:00] <nalioth> sleeping?
[07:00] <kakada> Hello all,
[07:00] <Slyder0244> with this checkinstall though i just use it in place of make install right?
[07:01] <Slyder0244> because i'm having a problem with just doing make not make install
[07:01] <kakada> hey, how many of you interested in Kubuntu installer localization?
[07:01] <nalioth> Slyder0244: correct
[07:01] <manveru> you use it after ./configure
[07:01] <nalioth> manveru: and after "make"
[07:01] <ilba7r> slyder0244 i know that ubuntu rules are diff than debian rules this might cause the prob
[07:01] <manveru> nalioth: it does make on its own
[07:02] <ilba7r> this might be part of the prob for i heard a complain also about skype
[07:02] <Tm_T> nalioth: even I sleep sometimes, so I know what to avoid =)
[07:02] <ilba7r> but you are installing from source rigght
[07:02] <Slyder0244> yea from source
[07:02] <ilba7r> than sorry i have no idea
[07:03] <manveru> kakada: wb
[07:03] <fdelacruz> guys how to install java and macromedia
[07:03] <manveru> !java
[07:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:03] <manveru> (there is flash as well)
[07:03] <kakada> wb?
[07:03] <fdelacruz> ubotu thanks
[07:03] <ubotu> sure thing, fdelacruz
[07:03] <manveru> welcome back :)
[07:04] <kakada> :)
[07:04] <manveru> what do you mean with installer localization?
[07:04] <nalioth> manveru: really?
[07:04] <manveru> nalioth: really.
[07:05] <Slyder0244> still not working manveru http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/466312
[07:05] <kakada> I mean during installing
[07:05] <manveru> Slyder0244: did you try a make clean before?
[07:05] <kakada> we can use ourown language.
[07:05] <Slyder0244> no i went right from ./configure to a checkinstall
[07:06] <manveru> kakada: well, i would like to participate... only thought that was done already
[07:06] <kakada> my language is Khmer
[07:06] <manveru> kakada: sorry, never heard that :)
[07:07] <kakada> ok, that's alright
[07:07] <manveru> kakada: i'm not speaking any rare languages, only german and english
[07:09] <manveru> nalioth_zZz: good night
[07:09] <ilba7r> Slyder i do not know if this is the case but i had problems compiling some code because it was looking for the old c compiler gcc 3.3
[07:09] <nalioth_zZz> manveru: guten nacht
[07:09] <nalioth_zZz> ilba7r: install gcc-3.3
[07:10] <ilba7r> i guess you have to check the dependencies and do not know how if it i not included in the configure file
[07:10] <ilba7r> i knew that later nalioth lol
[07:10] <Tm_T> two exams at the same time and two later today ->
[07:11] <Slyder0244> yea i know i have gcc 3.4 installed but i guess that could be a problem if it's lookin for the 3.3 files
[07:12] <Slyder0244> well just looked i have gcc-3.3 base installed
[07:14] <ilba7r> slyder0244 and you have kde-devel and kde-devel-extras packages installed right
[07:15] <Slyder0244> it doesn't show i do in adept
[07:15] <Slyder0244> so i guess i'll install them
[07:16] <ilba7r> if you do lot of developing install kdevelop it will install all development packages and lib that are necessary
[07:17] <Slyder0244> well it's not like i do alot of developing i'm brand new to linux but hell if it'll help i'll install it heh
[07:33] <rohan> hey, theres a bug in kubuntu 6.04 splash
[07:33] <rohan> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=525&slide=24
[07:33] <rohan> look at the side image in the k menu
[07:41] <jobezone> can't the KPDF problem be backported to KDE 3.4 from breezy? There isn't a portuguese mirror for kde 3.5 kubuntu packages, and we pay by the nose here for international downloads...
[07:42] <Insomniac-> why would you want to backport a problem?
[07:42] <jobezone> among the breezy-updates, I mean.
[07:42] <jobezone> because the solution sucks. Kidding, I originally meant backport the solution.
[07:43] <T3hWiz0r1> Insomniac-: b000zzze
[07:44] <Insomniac-> jobezone: you should ask the developers/maintainers
[07:44] <Insomniac-> T3hWiz0r1: in my coffee!
[07:44] <jobezone> yep, guess you're right, Thanks.
[07:48] <Insomniac-> T3hWiz0r1: my amd 400 system is definately broken
[07:49] <T3hWiz0r1> Insomniac-: thats a huge bummer
[07:49] <Insomniac-> meh
[07:49] <Insomniac-> haven't used it in years
[07:50] <Insomniac-> after running all kinds of numbers of computers doing all kinds of useless things, i finally went back to just using 1
[07:52] <Insomniac-> it still has my very first sound card in it
[07:52] <Insomniac-> probably still works too
[07:59] <gverig1> I am pretty new to KDE (have not used it in a while). I have few probably stupid questions...
[08:00] <gverig1> Does kopette support in any way disabling "so and so is now Away" messages?
[08:00] <gverig1> Does kopette support tabbed browsing, like gaim?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> gverig1: i dont think so, and the latest version does (somehow), yes
[08:02] <gverig1> I have whatever came with kubuntu 5.10
[08:02] <gverig1> Hobbsee: Would this be the latest version?
[08:03] <Hobbsee> gverig1: one down from it - it may still support tabs
[08:03] <Hobbsee> you can still use gnome apps in kde though
[08:03] <_nano_> Hobbsee, is there a way to just see kde related apps in my menu? they are now spammed with apps from gnome and xfce as well :(
[08:04] <Hobbsee> _nano_: only awy i know how to is to go and manually delete the ones you dont want
[08:04] <gverig1> _nano_: This is the reason I got the kubuntu DVD instead of just upgraiding Ubuntu
[08:04] <_nano_> Hobbsee, if I delete them from menu, would that affect my xfce or gnome menu as well?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> _nano_: not sure on that one
[08:05] <_nano_> Hobbsee, :-s
[08:05] <_nano_> Hobbsee, where is the location of kdm setup?
[08:06] <Hobbsee> somewhere in ~/.kde
[08:06] <Hobbsee> locate kdm
[08:07] <_nano_> Hobbsee, i meant in the menu
[08:07] <_nano_> :P
[08:07] <Hobbsee> as in, to edit the kdm from the menu?
[08:07] <_nano_> Hobbsee, yeah to change the themes etc.
[08:08] <Hobbsee> there's a kdm editor, but it's not terribly stable, otherwise you do it by replacing the files
[08:08] <_nano_> Hobbsee, you mean for configuring kdm?
[08:09] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:11] <_nano_> Hobbsee, i remember there was some graphical kdm config tool in my earlier linux distro :(
[08:11] <Hobbsee> _nano_: this one?  http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120
[08:12] <_nano_> Hobbsee, yes!!
[08:12] <Hobbsee> havent tried it in a while, i might try it now though
[08:13] <Hobbsee> !checkinstall
[08:13] <ubotu> checkinstall is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[08:15] <Hobbsee> _nano_: nice and easy compile!
[08:15] <Hobbsee> quick too
[08:15] <_nano_> Hobbsee, great! me trying it as well :)
[08:16] <fatejudger> are there any changes in Flight 2 for KDE?
[08:16] <fatejudger> well, Kubuntu in general
[08:18] <Hobbsee> shoot
[08:19] <Hobbsee> that was just a little stupid...
[08:19] <Hobbsee> deleted the directory, before taking the file i wanted out of it...
[08:21] <simplex> morghn ^^
[08:21] <Hobbsee> there we go!
[08:22] <_nano_> Hobsee, checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (header                  s and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:22] <_nano_> For more details about this problem, look at the end of con
[08:22] <Hobbsee> _nano_: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[08:22] <Hobbsee> _nano_: i can send you the deb of it, if you like...
[08:23] <_nano_> Hobbsee, oh that'd be great!
[08:23] <_nano_> Hobbsee, thanks :)
[08:23] <Hobbsee> there you go...
[08:23] <_nano_> darn its stuck at 0%
[08:24] <_nano_> hey is it the same as given in the site?
[08:24] <Hobbsee> i'll upload it
[08:24] <Hobbsee> no, i compiled 0.9.1
[08:24] <_nano_> oh cool
[08:25] <Hobbsee> _nano_: http://h1.ripway.com/hobbsee/kdmtheme_0.9.1-1_i386.deb
[08:26] <_nano_> great! thanks a lot
[08:26] <fatejudger> what the heck is "kdm theme" anyway?
[08:27] <_nano_> fatejudger, it allows u to configure the look of your login screen
[08:27] <_nano_> fatejudger, if you're using KDM that is
[08:27] <fatejudger> _nano_: you can't do that natively in KDE?
[08:27] <_nano_> fatejudger, natively from?
[08:27] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: z0rz
[08:27] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_, howdy!
[08:28] <fatejudger> _nano_: KDE
[08:28] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: no, you cnat
[08:28] <DJ_Mer_> http://68.225.55.28:8001/ :-D
[08:28] <fatejudger> well that's silly
[08:28] <fatejudger> I would have thought you could
[08:28] <fatejudger> since you can change the boot screen
[08:28] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_, 0 listeners!
[08:28] <fatejudger> I wanted to change my  login screen to match the moodin' boot screen
[08:29] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: fix it lol
[08:29] <Hobbsee> pretty!
[08:30] <fatejudger> DJ_Mer_: can you run that in KDE?
[08:30] <DJ_Mer_> fatejudger: what do you mean?
[08:30] <fatejudger> DJ_Mer_: shoutcast
[08:30] <_nano_> fatejudger, it doesn't matter if it's kde or gnome, it's a server
[08:30] <fatejudger> I meant the client
[08:31] <fatejudger> it wants me to download some playlist file
[08:31] <fatejudger> .pls
[08:31] <_nano_> fatejudger, yeah download it and open it in xmms or amarok
[08:31] <fatejudger> I had no idea Amarok played them
[08:31] <fatejudger> that's weird
[08:32] <fatejudger> soviet radio?
[08:32] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_, i think crossfade is not there in gnump3d
[08:32] <fatejudger> wtf is this?
[08:32] <fatejudger> this is crappy music
[08:32] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_, so shoutcast wins this way :D
[08:32] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: what do you mean?
[08:32] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: oh hahaa :-P
[08:32] <_nano_> fatejudger, you have the power to switch it off
[08:32] <Hobbsee> _nano_: did you get it to work?
[08:33] <fatejudger> _nano_: way ahead of you
[08:33] <_nano_> Hobbsee, where did you access the app from? from console?
[08:34] <Hobbsee> _nano_: kdesu kcontrol, the last option, kdm theme manager
[08:34] <DJ_Mer_> fatejudger: its a very large mix of music, nothing can be perfect
[08:34] <DJ_Mer_> omg! _nano_ best song ever :-D
[08:34] <_nano_> Hobbsee, that's the problem, my menu is flooded , could you tell me the section in which it falls in the menu?
[08:35] <_nano_> Hobbsee, sorry for sounding so stupid ..but :P
[08:35] <Hobbsee> _nano_: alt+f2, kdesu kcontrol, the last option, kdm theme manager
[08:35] <Hobbsee> how's that
[08:35] <Hobbsee> and to clean up your menu, right click on the menu, menu editor, and have fun with your delete key - then remember to hit save
[08:35] <DJ_Mer_> four listeners....
[08:35] <DJ_Mer_> god help my poor little cabel connection.. lol
[08:35] <jobezone> nice music
[08:35] <jobezone> :)
[08:36] <jobezone> coming out fine.. a few hickups now and then
[08:36] <_nano_> Hobbsee, works !!
[08:36] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: orbital - funny break (weekend reavers mix)
[08:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:36] <Hobbsee> i should hope so lol!
[08:36] <_nano_> Hobbsee, why isn't Kcontrol in my menu tho
[08:37] <Hobbsee> because they took it out - they've got system settigns there instead, but i'm not sure if the theme manager works in that
[08:37] <_nano_> Hobbsee, system settings seems to be only for a user, i mean no root stuff
[08:38] <jobezone> setings->system administration
[08:38] <Hobbsee> _nano_: well, you can use kcontrol without root too, but for some reason, you need to use the kdm theme manager as root, otherwise it wont let you do anything...
[08:38] <jobezone> at least in mine,
[08:38] <_nano_> Hobbsee, oh yeah thats true
[08:38] <Hobbsee> jobezone: would you be in gnome or kde?  :P
[08:38] <jobezone> kde :)
[08:38] <_nano_> :P
[08:38] <_nano_> brb
[08:38] <Hobbsee> _nano_: i tried first with normal kcontrol - didnt work though
[08:38] <jobezone> System:/
[08:39] <jobezone> settings:/
[08:39] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: are you still listening?
[08:39] <Insomniac-> Hobbsee: that's because kdm settings are system wide settings
[08:39] <jobezone> meant settings
[08:39] <Hobbsee> Insomniac-: good point
[08:39] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: no :) I have to contain myself with international downloads this month, I'm almost reaching the limit where I pay a lot each MB.
[08:39] <Hobbsee> jobezone: point taken,  i'd forgotten about that
[08:40] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: bummers
[08:40] <jobezone> but I can listen a bit wee more, wooohooh Party in the house!
[08:40] <DJ_Mer_> lmfao
[08:41] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: ~SR~ trivia: what video game did this song become known in? hint: it was on the playstation 2.
[08:41] <jobezone> hmm
[08:41] <_nano_> back
[08:41] <jobezone> rez?
[08:42] <DJ_Mer_> nope, Frequency! the games concept was to play the beats of the song to keep it going. You scored points for completing tracks. This song was the final stage, it was nearly unbeatable.
[08:42] <Hobbsee> _nano_: me too :)  work?
[08:43] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: Cool, but using that with the gamepad must make your fingers sore.
[08:43] <_nano_> Hobbsee, nah just winding up some stuff :P
[08:43] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: lets just say i am the fastest text messager alive these days.
[08:43] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: :))))
[08:43] <Hobbsee> _nano_: ah ok
[08:44] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: i still play it and the sequel "Amplitude"
[08:44] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_, good song ! (whatever happened to the radiohead request)
[08:44] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: you missed it earlier, they were on
[08:44] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: karma plice
[08:44] <DJ_Mer_> Police*
[08:44] <jobezone> Rez was pretty entrancing.
[08:44] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_, aah  :(
[08:44] <DJ_Mer_> pick up frequency, you'll love it.
[08:45] <DJ_Mer_> the colours and beats will make you feel like your on acid!
[08:45] <Insomniac-> yeah people really love rez: http://www.gamegirladvance.com/archives/2002/10/26/sex_in_games_rezvibrator.html
[08:45] <jobezone> I'll look that game. For now, I've ordered Psychonauts, and Farhenheit
[08:46] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: its listed as a "rare" title
[08:46] <DJ_Mer_> very few copies were made and it was a rare trade in
[08:46] <jobezone> ahh, so, hard to find.
[08:46] <DJ_Mer_> you can buy a few new copies...but prepare to pay about 50 USD
[08:46] <jobezone> and the sequel is called?
[08:47] <DJ_Mer_> Amplitude
[08:47] <DJ_Mer_> they changed the look of the "Vortex" but its still acid-trancing.
[08:47] <jobezone> I'll try searching that one instead, it's probably more available.
[08:48] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: they are both about the same on findability
[08:48] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: get frequency first... its so worth the money.
[08:48] <Insomniac-> DJ_Mer_: ever read that article?
[08:49] <DJ_Mer_> Insomniac-: no
[08:49] <Insomniac-> go read it's funny
[08:49] <jobezone> http://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/frequency/cover-art/gameCoverId,31283/ Never saw the title. If I get it, it may be from "other" channels.
[08:49] <DJ_Mer_> the one where guys can use a gamepad vibrator on a woman
[08:49] <DJ_Mer_> lol
[08:50] <_nano_> Insomniac-: lol
[08:50] <DJ_Mer_> yup thats it jobezone
[08:50] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: you'll be addicted for about two months
[08:50] <jobezone> I was looking at scummvm webpage today, and downloaed Full Throttle's demo, and played it in dosbox. Man, I had forgotten how good it was.
[08:50] <Insomniac-> jobezone: don't forget Day of the Tentacle :)
[08:50] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: and after you beat it the songs will be some of your all-time favorites
[08:51] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: this one's my fav song!
[08:51] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: Really? I hardly get additect with games anymore, they're boring, but if that one is diferent...
[08:51] <angasule> jobezone: nethack!
[08:51] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: its not another shoot them up.. its just acidic colors, good techno tunes, and plenty of complicated combo's
[08:51] <jobezone> Insomniac-: Yeah, that one!...That was one of the few adventure games I really tried to end.
[08:52] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: pink floyd is something amazing.
[08:52] <jobezone> nethack, or falcons eye ? :)
[08:52] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: yeah !
[08:52] <Insomniac-> jobezone: Sam & Max Freelance Police was another one of my favorites
[08:52] <Insomniac-> i love those wacky adventure games
[08:52] <jobezone> I love this music, but never now what it's called
[08:52] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: what music?
[08:52] <jobezone> the one playing in Soviet Radio :)
[08:53] <DJ_Mer_> cos this is Pink Floyd - Higher Hopes
[08:53] <DJ_Mer_> pink floyd - High Hopes*
[08:53] <jobezone> right!
[08:53] <_nano_> jobezone: pink floyd anytime :D
[08:53] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: my floyd collection WILL make your knees week
[08:53] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: nineteen full CD's
[08:53] <jobezone> Sam n Max was cool too!
[08:53] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: isn't there a way not to randomize and just play what's requested :(
[08:54] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: because of the way its set up... no
[08:54] <jobezone> I played it in a 386, and it crawled a bit when max was on top of Sam, maskaraded
[08:54] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: sometime i'll give you a custom show on my *private* soviet radio
[08:54] <DJ_Mer_> SRp ;-)
[08:54] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: lol
[08:54] <DJ_Mer_> but jobezone is enjoying too... so it wouldn't be fair to cut him off too heh
[08:55] <jobezone> what can I say
[08:56] <jobezone> you got me the minute you had Soviet Radio on-line
[08:56] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: lmao
[08:56] <jobezone> btw, the reason I'm getting Psychonauts,
[08:56] <DJ_Mer_> tell you what
[08:56] <jobezone> it's because it's main designer was the one who made
[08:56] <jobezone> Full Throttle
[08:56] <DJ_Mer_> i'll give you guys a private "request" airing
[08:56] <DJ_Mer_> i'll message you two with the hyperlinks to the files
[08:57] <jobezone> among other Lucasart games.
[08:57] <DJ_Mer_> manditory SR is being turned off during this cast: the music will pause after this song
[08:57] <jobezone> sure
[08:58] <DJ_Mer_> okay you guys, messaging you the private links
[08:58] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: :)
[08:58] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: the stream didn't pause tho
[08:59] <jobezone> mmm, I don't know if I can be messaged, since I haven't registered my nick
[08:59] <_nano_> jobezone: you could do it now :)
[08:59] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: you can still recieve it
[08:59] <_ubuntu> hi..i have downloaded the kubuntu dvd..do u know how i install it?
[08:59] <jobezone> :))
[09:00] <jobezone> ok, wait a minute then
[09:00] <DJ_Mer_> okay nano....
[09:00] <DJ_Mer_> what do ya want foo
[09:01] <DJ_Mer_> waiting for a request, radiohead?
[09:01] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: yeah! :D
[09:03] <angasule> hmm, I installed tor, but I don't see how to get it working, I guess do it the hard way, as if installed from source?
[09:03] <jobezone> I'm musically incult, so I leave the requests to nano
[09:04] <jobezone> unless I remember something.
[09:04] <DJ_Mer_> first you gotta stay tuned jobezone lol
[09:04] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: how bout a litle pink floyd after this?
[09:05] <jobezone> xmms keeps stopping,
[09:05] <jobezone> the other stream was much more fluid.
[09:05] <DJ_Mer_> ^,-
[09:05] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: they are the same... just on a different host
[09:05] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: great stuff! :D you da man !
[09:05] <jobezone> in the classroom!
[09:05] <DJ_Mer_> same quality and everything.
[09:06] <jobezone> that host must be in a remote island in the Pacific, or something :) (Or I am ...)
[09:06] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: so what are you exactly doing here?
[09:06] <T3hWiz0rd> iTunes: Pink Floyd - 04 - Another Brick In The Wall (Part2) @ 192kbps [Time: 1.04//4:01] 
[09:06] <DJ_Mer_> in kubuntu?
[09:06] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: i mean you can change the playlist realtime?
[09:06] <DJ_Mer_> well
[09:06] <DJ_Mer_> this is itunes controlled via an ibook :-P
[09:06] <DJ_Mer_> and being nicecasted.
[09:07] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: aah :)
[09:07] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: the problem is it takes a very large hit on my poor lil ibook
[09:07] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: plus the script i use for SR is very good at choosing the right blend of music.
[09:07] <jobezone> you have the soundtrack for the Fly(movie)?
[09:08] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: what artist?
[09:08] <jobezone> angasule: I don't know about tor, but you could try installing a more recent .deb from debian.
[09:08] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: I'll check, wait a minute.
[09:09] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: where's the shoutcast server hosted?
[09:09] <DJ_Mer_> right next to the ibook :-P
[09:09] <DJ_Mer_> its my spaceheater
[09:09] <_nano_> 8000 is ibook, 8001 kubuntu :D
[09:09] <DJ_Mer_> ;-)
[09:09] <DJ_Mer_> shhh, don't tell people
[09:10] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: haha
[09:10] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: Howard Shore is the artist, Didn't even know it was him, but I should have guessed.
[09:10] <DJ_Mer_> its okay, the ibook disables itself.
[09:10] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: sorry, don't have
[09:10] <jobezone> ahh
[09:10] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: disables itself as in?
[09:10] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: easy fix... close the program and os x terminates the port opening
[09:10] <jobezone> DJ_Mer: you should get some of his soundtracks, they're really good. For example, "Willow" soundtrack has some beautifull musics.
[09:11] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: im writing it down now
[09:11] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: should we jump to some techno?
[09:11] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: "creep - radiohead" by anychance?
[09:11] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: got it
[09:12] <DJ_Mer_> woops
[09:12] <pyrohotdog> can anyone help me install GCC?
[09:12] <DJ_Mer_> lmao that stared at the wrong time
[09:12] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: nice
[09:12] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: good stuff ! :D
[09:12] <jobezone> pyrohotdog: I think you just have to install build-essentials ? Using adept.
[09:12] <DJ_Mer_> "you're just like an angel... your skin makes me cry."
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> iTunes: Radiohead - Creep @ 202kbps [Time: 0.44//3:55] 
[09:13] <jobezone> sad that it skips a lot for me :(
[09:13] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: where you live?
[09:13] <_nano_> jobezone: works fine here, what connection do you jave?
[09:13] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: oh....thank you....I'll try it
[09:13] <_nano_> *have
[09:13] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: i think hes out of the us....
[09:13] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_:
[09:14] <jobezone> ++p
[09:14] <jobezone> ups
[09:14] <jobezone> got sauce on my keyboard key
[09:14] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: where you at?
[09:14] <_nano_> lol
[09:14] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: in Portugal
[09:14] <DJ_Mer_> yeah, that'll do it lmao
[09:14] <_nano_> jobezone: what's your connection speed?
[09:15] <jobezone> cable, 512 kb I think.
[09:15] <_nano_> jobezone: how's the weather there? ;)
[09:15] <jobezone> _nano_: :) Clear skies, but coldish
[09:15] <DJ_Mer_> i've got my AC going here
[09:16] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: just for your computer ;)
[09:16] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: LOL
[09:16] <jobezone> And the CIA have been landing planes filled with "terrorist" prisioners in here, in their route to eastern europe torture prisons.
[09:16] <DJ_Mer_> next request nano?
[09:17] <pyrohotdog> wow that's exciting.
[09:17] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: your call :D
[09:17] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: ... hmmm... lets bust out some british music
[09:17] <T3hWiz0rd> iTunes: Oasis - Stand By Me @ 320kbps [Time: 0.09//5:56] 
[09:18] <jobezone> pyrohotdog: yep, the media has been in a bit of a frenzy over that.
[09:19] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: how does the T3hWiz0rd thingy work?
[09:19] <DJ_Mer_> scripted irc client
[09:19] <T3hWiz0rd> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[09:19] <T3hWiz0rd> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `uptime ;-)'
[09:19] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: lol
[09:19] <DJ_Mer_> gah, POS!
[09:20] <jobezone> and they say machines are smart
[09:20] <pyrohotdog> haha
[09:21] <pyrohotdog> as smart as their operator.
[09:21] <T3hWiz0rd>  1:21  up 4 days,  3:05, 2 users, load averages: 0.26 0.31 0.29
[09:21] <DJ_Mer_> up, hes all good
[09:21] <DJ_Mer_> man my ibooks uptime is pwning my kubuntu box
[09:21] <DJ_Mer_> Uptime: 4 hours and 35 minutes
[09:21] <jobezone> T3hWiz0rd: doesn't he report to the Matrix union, or something? :)
[09:22] <T3hWiz0rd> HOT DOGS!!?!@#@!##!$
[09:22] <DJ_Mer_> :-P
[09:22] <jobezone> he seems pissed of...:)
[09:22] <DJ_Mer_> i would be too if my logo was a smiling face.
[09:23] <T3hWiz0rd> iTunes: Orbital - Chime @ 256kbps [Time: 0.04//8:03] 
[09:24] <pyrohotdog> Okay...so I've got one harddrive, and it's partitioned for windows and linux...I don't suppose I could reformat the windows half without killing my linux half could I....?
[09:24] <DJ_Mer_> this song is mad cool.
[09:24] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: you still with us?
[09:25] <jobezone> pyrohotdog: Yes, you can
[09:25] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: yup : )
[09:25] <pyrohotdog> Really? :)
[09:25] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: liking the song?
[09:25] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: ahh, amarok is playing the stream better than xmms
[09:25] <jobezone> Nice
[09:25] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: nice stuff!
[09:26] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: ...how? sorry, I'm sort of a Linux noob.
[09:26] <jobezone> ups, not really. It's a bit better.
[09:26] <jobezone> pyrohotdog: you're thinking of doing it in linux or windows?
[09:27] <pyrohotdog> Linux, 'cause window's won't boot for me anymore, so I'm just going to get rid of it and use the storage space.
[09:27] <DJ_Mer_> pyrohotdog: don't apologize for newbiquette... todays newbs are tomorrows 1337
[09:27] <jobezone> People, what is the prefered kde app for formating partitions? Qtparted?
[09:28] <_nano_> jobezone: I guess
[09:28] <pyrohotdog> DJ_Mer_: hehe, very true.
[09:28] <jobezone> pyrohotdog: install qtparted, then through its interface, format the windows partition to the filesystem you want (ext3 most probably).
[09:29] <DJ_Mer_> pyrohotdog: thats why i only refer to noob in a bad sense directed toward hot-headed windows loyalists
[09:29] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: thanks a lot!
[09:29] <pyrohotdog> DJ_Mer_: good point...
[09:30] <DJ_Mer_> today... windows noob... tomorrow 1337 virus transmitter and script-kiddie lmao
[09:30] <jobezone> actually, On the other end, even elite hacker are/must be noobs.
[09:30] <pyrohotdog> everyone has to start somewhere.
[09:31] <_nano_> pyrohotdog: very true
[09:31] <DJ_Mer_> somep eople just like to pretend they didn't ever "start"
[09:31] <DJ_Mer_> they were born with 1337 s1llz
[09:31] <DJ_Mer_> sk1llz*
[09:31] <T3hWiz0rd> iTunes: Chromeo - Rage! @ 192kbps [Time: 0.04//4:34] 
[09:32] <_nano_> anyone knows of good blogging clients for kde?
[09:32] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: peppy!
[09:32] <DJ_Mer_> blog... disgusting
[09:32] <DJ_Mer_> clogs...
[09:32] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: lol why?
[09:33] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: look at my space... if i gave half a sh*t aobut those peoples days or lives maybe i'd stop throwing used condoms at them long enough to ask.
[09:33] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: but it may not be necessarily be about your life and stuff, there are a great deal of "niche" blogs as well
[09:33] <jobezone> If not, if they knew everything about everything, or thought they do, what's the incentive to learn new stuff?
[09:33] <jobezone> So, in that sense, and while I'm still a newbie, even if I'm using linux for some years, I hope to allways be a newbie, to be fascinated by new and obscure things
[09:33] <jobezone> and learn them, of course.
[09:34] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: like www.dumbass.nssclan.com?
[09:35] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: lol yours???
[09:35] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: maybe, you like it?
[09:35] <jobezone> back
[09:35] <jobezone> I wonder if you all received my speech...
[09:35] <pyrohotdog> It says it's status is "Active" and the option to format is grayed out...?
[09:36] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: chat logs are cool! :P
[09:36] <jobezone> pyrohotdog: you must unmout that partition first.
[09:36] <DJ_Mer_> usually
[09:36] <jobezone> unmount.
[09:36] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: oooh...ha...silly me....thank you!
[09:36] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: i seem to attract extremely stupid people on my AIM account.
[09:37] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: so i've made a sucessful site out of them lol
[09:37] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: what site is that?
[09:37] <_nano_> brb
[09:37] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone: my log of idiotic people who bother me while i am enjoying my life.
[09:37] <carthik> How do I change the behaviour by which, when I click once things open - i want the double click to open behaviour
[09:38] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: so what client do you use?
[09:39] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: for wha?
[09:39] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: my clog?
[09:39] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: yea clog .. lol
[09:39] <Hobbsee> _nano_: there's /version - to answer your question, konversation
[09:39] <DJ_Mer_> wordpress
[09:39] <Hobbsee> oops...nvm
[09:39] <jobezone> DJ_Mer_: I once saw a site simillar to that, where the guy impersonated being visited by aliens.
[09:39] <jobezone> Is that your site?
[09:39] <jobezone> On the other "line", was a kid, all worried, calling the police, reporting an abduction.
[09:40] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: that's the blog software not the client I guess
[09:40] <pyrohotdog> aaron@dhcppc2:~$ umount /dev/hda2
[09:40] <pyrohotdog> umount: /dev/hda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[09:40] <pyrohotdog> it still says it's active?
[09:40] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: what are you hunting for
[09:40] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: I once saw a site simillar to that, where the guy impersonated being visited by aliens.
[09:40] <_nano_> !nvm
[09:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, _nano_
[09:40] <jobezone0>  Is that your site?
[09:41] <mth`MAW> Hi
[09:41] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: clients as in something that rests on your desktop and you could update your site thru that
[09:41] <_nano_> Hobbsee: nvm?
[09:41] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: yes its mine :-)
[09:41] <Hobbsee> nevermind
[09:41] <_nano_> Hobbsee: lol, i thot it's some software :))
[09:41] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:41] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: Cool! I laughed so hard reading your site! Give me the link, please, I lost it since!
[09:41] <_nano_> Hobbsee: need some coffee
[09:42] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: http://68.225.55.28:8000/playlist.pls
[09:42] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: woops
[09:42] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: not that
[09:42] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: lol
[09:42] <DJ_Mer_> http://dumbass.nssclan.com/
[09:42] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: Are you sure it's unmounted, or that you're looking at the right partition? Also, maybe you have to refresh qtparted?
[09:42] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: poor ibook :P
[09:42] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: not a big deal, if anyone gets on it i can ban em
[09:42] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: type mount on a terminal, to see all mounted filesystems
[09:43] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: thanks for the link! I found it really funny when I first discovered it! I was sad when I finished reading it all.
[09:43] <jobezone0> that's me
[09:43] <pyrohotdog> the partition in question isn't showing..
[09:44] <waspius> hi..does anyone know if there is a program like msn for linux in which u can use a web cam and a mic?
[09:44] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: when you type "mount"? Then it's unmounted. You can do it from the command line, anyway.
[09:44] <Hobbsee> waspius: kopete, probably amsn as well
[09:44] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: love this song
[09:44] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: valued lesson behind its catchy lyrics
[09:44] <Hobbsee> waspius: gaim probably lets you too
[09:44] <waspius> thanx Hobbsee
[09:45] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: it's appearing to be unmounted, but qtparted is still saying it's status is Active.
[09:46] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: use the cfdisk program in a terminal
[09:46] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: this is my all time favorite winding down son
[09:46] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: cfdisk /dev/hda (or something)
[09:47] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: take care not to mess with your other partitions! Take a good look at the result of mount, and /etc/fstab, so you know what partition you will "format".
[09:47] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[09:48] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: nevermind, you have to do "sudo cfdisk"
[09:48] <carthik> would someone know hoe to remove the underline for icons on the desktop and in konqueror?
[09:48] <pyrohotdog> oooh....lol
[09:48] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: only, no need to put /dev/hda
[09:48] <DJ_Mer_> i think we lost _nano_
[09:49] <jobezone0> I got disconnected twice in the last half hour. Maybe that happened with him as well.
[09:49] <pyrohotdog> Do I want a primary or logical partition....?
[09:50] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: I sure loved when you had the stream on the "real" (kubuntu) server :)
[09:50] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: im switching it back in a few minutes
[09:51] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: hmm.. I'm allways at a loss when I have to choose that, as well. But I guess primary is fine (that's what I allways choose). I think you only need to start thinking about logical partitions when you're going to have lots and lots of them
[09:51] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: but then it will go in random mode?
[09:51] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: alright, thank you.:)
[09:51] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: yes
[09:52] <DJ_Mer_> here goes the switch
[09:52] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: can you give the other link again?
[09:52] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: you're welcome!
[09:54] <jobezone0> thanks
[09:55] <jobezone0> your site has all kinds of feeds!
[09:55] <pyrohotdog> ugh, now I don't have permission to access it! lol
[09:56] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: you'll have to change /etc/fstab
[09:57] <jobezone0> pyrohotdog: change it to use ext3, and under the options column, have defaults. Also, you'll probably want to name the mount point directory other than windows:) You'll have to create the newly named directory if you do change it.
[09:58] <pyrohotdog> jobezone: thanks, you're a big help!:)
[09:59] <_nano_> back
[09:59] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: stopped? :(
[09:59] <Hamster> How do I get the konsole plugin working in konqueror in KDE35? I have the package containing libkonsolepart but I can't work out how to enable it in konqueror
[10:00] <jobezone0> _nano_: no, he just switched back to the other server
[10:00] <jobezone0> Hamster: yakuake is all I need :)
[10:00] <jobezone0> Hamster: what plugin is that?
[10:00] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: i returned it to regular SR
[10:00] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: im preparing for my venture to dreamland
[10:01] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: oh
[10:01] <Hamster> jobezone0: it puts a konsole window in konqueror (file browser). I have it setup to work at home. but I can't get it working here at work. I'm stumped :-)
[10:01] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: I wonder why if both servers are located on the same place, the other one was skipping so much with me?
[10:01] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: yup they are both here... one is wireless though
[10:02] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: which can cause some problems
[10:04] <jobezone0> Hamster: Ah, I don't know about that... But isn't it as easy as Configuring konqueror's toolbar, then add a button for terminal in it? Then clicking the terminal, opens it up in the bottom?
[10:04] <waspius> anyone know a chatting software that supports web cam and mic???
[10:05] <Hamster> jobezone0: I shall try... I'm sure that the icon has just always been there and I have no idea why it hasn't appeared on this install :)
[10:05] <jobezone0> waspius: I don't know... I've only heard about skype.
[10:06] <waspius> that only supports mic
[10:06] <jobezone0> ahh..
[10:06] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: you compiling something ? :)
[10:06] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: no whats up?
[10:07] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: it's skipping a lot.
[10:07] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: it shouldn't be, maybe you have a lot of connection resources in use?
[10:08] <Insomniac-> argh my ears! this ancient hd has such an annoying high pitched whine it makes me want to pull out my hair
[10:08] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: Not me, but maybe my ISP.
[10:08] <_nano_> jobezone0: try pinging his server see the time it takes for a packet to comeback
[10:09] <DJ_Mer_> ohh man....
[10:09] <DJ_Mer_> OHH MAN
[10:09] <jobezone0> hasn't ponged yet.
[10:09] <DJ_Mer_> walmart is now in japan...
[10:09] <DJ_Mer_> this is bad, someone BLOW that corporation up
[10:09] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: it's gonna be everywhere,  you know any two countries that have walmart never go to war ...so it's good for the world :P
[10:10] <DJ_Mer_> walmart is secretly the nazi party... whilest fast food chains are the soviet union plotting american genocide via food
[10:10] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: lol
[10:10] <jobezone0> Well, I shouldn't probably stop listening, as I'm near my monthly limits, and there's lots of days still till the end of it.
[10:10] <_nano_> jobezone0: monthly limits?
[10:10] <_nano_> jobezone0: how much do you pay for your connection?
[10:10] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: im telling you man the soviet union never crashed... they just changed their name to mc donalds.
[10:11] <jobezone0> _nano_: yep. Here in Portugal we have a nice system which some ISP tried to implement in the UK last year as well, but had to go back.
[10:11] <carthik> Can someone help me with  a kmail problem?
[10:12] <jobezone0> _nano_: yep. 20 something 
[10:12] <carthik> I have been using mutt to read mail so far. So my mail is in ~/Mail/  -- now is there a way to make kmail read this mail without copying it to ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/inbox ?
[10:12] <jobezone0> _nano_: this gives me 2 GB internation downloads, 20 GB national.
[10:13] <jobezone0> _nano_: the unlimited internet rates are so expensive, that only corporations usually use it.
[10:13] <_nano_> jobezone0: thats 20 in what currency?
[10:13] <jobezone0> all the ISP's do it.
[10:13] <jobezone0> euros
[10:13] <_nano_> jobezone0: what's the speed?
[10:14] <jobezone0> 512 kbits
[10:14] <jobezone0> there are higher connections, with higher limits (like 10 GB international)
[10:14] <waspius> how can i change the privileges on a file
[10:14] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: i've never heard of international limits before.
[10:14] <DJ_Mer_> sounds like a desperate control attempt.
[10:15] <waspius> my windows partition is mounted but i cant access it
[10:15] <_nano_> jobezone0: i pay around 50 bucks for 5mbps (DJ_Mer_ its 5mbps right? cox?)
[10:15] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: something like that...
[10:16] <Hobbsee_away> waspius: man chmod
[10:16] <_nano_> jobezone0: but the download limit thing is weird...I would have to say good bye to online radio then :(
[10:16] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: I don't even think we have 5mbps yet. The highest connection speed oriented to home users I've seen is around 2mbps.
[10:16] <Hobbsee_away> oh, for windows partitions...in the fstab, make sure it says ro,users,umask=000
[10:17] <waspius> thanx...but isnt there something more simlpe?
[10:17] <jobezone0> _nano_: that's one reason I don't listen to online streams that much.
[10:17] <_nano_> waspius: ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[10:17] <Hobbsee_away> waspius: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,users,umask=000 0       0 <--modify that to be where your windows drive is mounted, in your fstab file
[10:17] <jobezone0> _nano_: unless I'm still far away to reaching the limit.
[10:17] <Hobbsee_away> !mount
[10:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:18] <waspius> thanx
[10:18] <jobezone0> _nano_: In here, everybody makes use of the IP filters in amule:) To only download nationally.
[10:18] <_nano_> jobezone0: how's the broadband penetration in portugal?
[10:18] <_nano_> jobezone0: i guess more competition would bring the prices down
[10:19] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: iraq is getting some good Broadband
[10:19] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: :P
[10:19] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: sometime soo
[10:20] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: sometime soon*
[10:20] <jobezone0> _nano_: pretty big, but with cable there is little competition. One big cable company with a legal monopoly over the capital, and a few other big cities. ADSL is where there are lots of them.
[10:20] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: may be walmart would soon follow
[10:20] <_nano_> jobezone0: the future lies in wimax :D
[10:20] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_: i don't like walmart, i want that comany to be gone
[10:20] <jobezone0> what's that?
[10:21] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: It hasn't reached here yet :)
[10:21] <_nano_> jobezone0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax
[10:21] <DJ_Mer_> jobezone0: count your blessings
[10:21] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: nice song
[10:21] <DJ_Mer_> what is it? lol
[10:21] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: ticket to heaven
[10:22] <jobezone0> Oh men, soon I'll be bombarded with the next generation internet again.
[10:22] <Insomniac-> will a kernel compiled for k7 boot on a athlon64 system?
[10:22] <jobezone0> First it was GPRS, then WIFI, the 3G...
[10:22] <jobezone0> sick and tired of it all.
[10:23] <_nano_> jobezone0: lol
[10:24] <jobezone0> there's an interesting statistic about portugal. It had the biggest growth in cellphone sales since 2000 in europe.
[10:24] <Insomniac-> that'll even out pretty quickly
[10:24] <_nano_> yeah
[10:25] <Insomniac-> nearly everyone has one.. it has become a maintenance and upgrade market
[10:25] <jobezone0> Now, every bloody company is trying to gain that nirvana heaven again, and so we get bombarded all the time about the next generation piece of crap.
[10:25] <Insomniac-> sell your tv
[10:25] <_nano_> jobezone0: well you can choose to not use any
[10:25] <jobezone0> But I really mean BIGGEST growth, It's even studied overseas, and all.
[10:26] <DJ_Mer_> allright men
[10:26] <jobezone0> _nano_: sure, but until they make glasses wich block out those ads from the street, I still have to see them.
[10:26] <Insomniac-> jobezone0: that won't last for more than a few years
[10:26] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: g'night
[10:26] <DJ_Mer_> peace guys, pump it hard
[10:27] <Insomniac-> keep soviet radio alive in 2006 ;)
[10:27] <_nano_> yeah!
[10:27] <_nano_> soviet radio rocks
[10:29] <jobezone0> Insomniac-: it's been lasting for over 5 years... You see, when there's limited physical space (in territory), only 4 open tv channels, a dozen of national cable tv channels, simillarly for magazines and newspapers, it's hard to avoid to be spammed by them when the new hype comes around.
[10:29] <theo> silly question... what's the --prefix for kde?
[10:29] <jobezone0> DJ_Mer_: bye
[10:31] <jobezone0> oh well
[10:31] <jobezone0> enough ranting...
[10:32] <Insomniac-> jobezone0: not having problems here
[10:32] <Insomniac-> i don't read much except books and online news
[10:32] <jobezone0> Insomniac-: where?
[10:32] <Insomniac-> netherlands
[10:32] <Insomniac-> and i'm selling my tv
[10:32] <jobezone0> ah..
[10:32] <Insomniac-> since i don't use it anyway
[10:33] <jobezone0> I like my tv!
[10:33] <jobezone0> :)
[10:33] <Insomniac-> mostly crap on tv anyway
[10:33] <Insomniac-> i'm in the process of building my own video projector
[10:33] <jobezone0> I like it because I often get to watch movies I never find in a videoclub, or amule.
[10:33] <_nano_> Insomniac-: building your own as in?
[10:34] <Insomniac-> _nano_: overhead projector + tft monitor screen + uv filter
[10:34] <jobezone0> like classics, or otherwise less known movies.
[10:34] <Insomniac-> i watch alot of b-movies but i have no trouble finding them
[10:34] <_nano_> Insomniac-: lol
[10:34] <Insomniac-> gonna watch 'santa claus conquers the martians' this christmas
[10:36] <jobezone0> Well, with national downloads only..
[10:36] <jobezone0> it gets a lot harder to find non-blockbusters.
[10:36] <jobezone0> so it all comes around to screw me ! :)
[10:36] <Insomniac-> yeah that sucks
[10:36] <ejofee> how do i know which ones are *security* updates?
[10:37] <Insomniac-> we have pretty much unlimited net access here
[10:37] <Insomniac-> ejofee: when they come from the security branches
[10:37] <Insomniac-> not sure how you could check that
[10:38] <jobezone0> but I guess almost all of the updates in breezy are security updates ?
[10:38] <ejofee> Insomniac-: where do i look in order to see where they came from?
[10:42] <jobezone0> I don't really know
[10:48] <Insomniac-> ejofee: in the apt-get or dpkg manpage you can probably see how you can check from which repository a package is coming
[10:52] <ejofee> Insomniac-: so it's impossible to see it in synaptic, right?
[10:52] <Insomniac-> dunno i don't use any frontends to apt
[10:53] <jobezone0> You could see the changelongs of each package being updated.
[10:53] <jobezone0> I think it's in Package->Changelog
[10:54] <ejofee> is there any distro which has more packages than debian / ubuntu?
[10:54] <pyrohotdog> What would I change permissions to for a web folder? 755?
[10:54] <ejofee> Insomniac-: any idea ^
[10:57] <jobezone0> debian must be #1. 3.1 full was 3 or 4 DVD's (or more, not sure).
[10:58] <jobezone0> Or have I got this wrong ? ....
[10:58] <Insomniac-> the amount of cds doesn't say anything
[10:58] <Insomniac-> ejofee: no
[10:59] <jobezone0> 2 DVD's.
[10:59] <jobezone0> It kinda does, at least for Debian 3.1 .
[10:59] <jobezone0> Unstable has got more by now.
[11:00] <jobezone0> I searched for it, and it's probably 2 DVD's the full 3.1 release.
[11:00] <Insomniac-> debian might have the largest package repository but how does that make them #1 in anything?
[11:00] <jobezone0> It makes them #1 in having the largest package repository.
[11:00] <Insomniac-> good for them
[11:01] <jobezone0> and they're up there with Wikipedia, as in, you could get DVD's for both projects, and use them in an off-line computer, and never miss a thing.
[11:01] <fatejudger> !repos
[11:01] <ubotu> from memory, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:02] <jobezone0> as far as program, and encyclopedic knowledge goes.
[11:02] <jobezone0> programs.
[11:02] <jobezone0> it's what makes ubuntu and kubuntu rock solid as well.
[11:03] <jobezone0> Debian that is.
[11:03] <jobezone0> So if Kubuntu is #1, then Debian is the hash (#).
[11:03] <Insomniac-> only if the amount of available software is the standard for quality
[11:04] <Insomniac-> s/for quality//
[11:04] <jobezone0> from my experience, it allways has been.
[11:05] <jobezone0> And I've been using it since 99, tracking unstable.
[11:05] <jobezone0> or earlier even.
[11:06] <andreas__> I used debian for a short while, not good enough hardware support
[11:07] <jobezone0> but sure, one unusable package it allways keeps are the ggz packages. They're allways too old to be able to connect to their servers.
[11:07] <jobezone0> ggz gaming zone, I mean.
[11:08] <jobezone0> andreas__: yep, one reason I'm using kubuntu in this laptop, is that I couldn't fix the stupid DSTP in debian
[11:09] <jobezone0> I'm the only one bored and hoping to find some entertainment in the channel ...
[11:09] <jobezone0> while you are off doing something more interesting
[11:09] <andreas__> I'm having an exam in a few hours
[11:09] <andreas__> consider yourself lucky
[11:09] <jobezone0> I take that back :)
[11:09] <jobezone0> what is it about?
[11:09] <jobezone0> I'm desperate.
[11:10] <andreas__> operating systems
[11:11] <jobezone0> Are you asked about what does the winXP EULA contain or something?
[11:11] <andreas__> hehe no
[11:13] <jobezone0> oh well...
[11:13] <jobezone0> I wonder if, like the movie TRON, jobezone actually isn't me,
[11:14] <jobezone0> but the computarized persona of myself...
[11:14] <jobezone0> actually,
[11:14] <jobezone0> in the Audio commentaries of TRON
[11:14] <jobezone0> the director said that the idea he had for the tron program being alike his programmer,
[11:15] <jobezone0> was that a programmer when he creates a program, he's putting something of himself in it.
[11:16] <jobezone0> I think I might have unlocked the next trend on the internet:
[11:16] <jobezone0> The IRClog
[11:17] <jobezone0> Each person has an irc channel just for him, where he writes what he wants, any time of the day.
[11:17] <andreas_> WEB 3.0
[11:17] <andreas_> web*
[11:17] <jobezone0> then, people can feed that channel to a program
[11:17] <jobezone0> and get the real-time thoughts of people around the world,
[11:20] <andreas_> that's pretty crazy'
[11:20] <jobezone0> exactly!
[11:20] <jobezone0> that's why it will catch on!
[11:22] <jobezone0> piano, piano, get me a piano
[11:23] <jobezone0> sincerely, sincerely, I ask you sincerely
[11:23] <jobezone0> a note, a note, let me play you a note
[11:23] <jobezone0> damn..
[11:23] <jobezone0> abort
[11:27] <fdelacruz_> guys anyone used firestarter?
[11:30] <_nano_> !firestarter
[11:30] <ubotu> it has been said that firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[11:31] <andreas_> really
[11:31] <andreas_> how does it compare to iptables
[11:32] <jobezone0> as far as I know, it configures iptables
[11:33] <bimberi> firestarter is a frontend to iptables
[11:33] <andreas_> hang on now'
[11:33] <jobezone0> just like guardian dog for kde.
[11:33] <andreas_> it says firestarter is a frondend to the builtin firewall, which is called netfilter
[11:33] <andreas_> iptables is also a frontend for netfilter
[11:33] <andreas_> so which is it
[11:34] <bimberi> !firewall
[11:34] <ubotu> I heard firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[11:36] <andreas_> "ptables is the name of the user space tool by which administrators create rules for the packet filtering and NAT modules. "
[11:36] <andreas_> +I
[11:36] <jobezone0> !guarddog
[11:36] <ubotu> jobezone0: What?
[11:36] <jobezone0> !guardog
[11:36] <ubotu> jobezone0: I give up, what is it?
[11:36] <andreas_> "Firestarter is an open source personal firewall tool that uses the Netfilter system built into the Linux kernel."
[11:36] <jobezone0> !nevermind
[11:36] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, jobezone0
[11:36] <andreas_> there we go then
[11:36] <andreas_> so how does it compare to iptables?
[11:37] <bimberi> !info guarddog
[11:37] <ubotu> guarddog: (firewall configuration utility for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.4.0-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 344 kB, Installed size: 1264 kB
[11:37] <jobezone0> andreas_;It's easier to use than iptables? And maybe it uses iptables.
[11:38] <jobezone0> Like adept or synaptic use apt which uses dpkg.
[11:38] <andreas_> that would be pretty awkward
[11:38] <jobezone0> adept->apt->dpkg
[11:39] <andreas_> gotta go shower, bai
[11:39] <jobezone0> I don't even think you can directly configure netfilter besides using iptables.
[11:40] <andreas_> of course you can
[11:40] <andreas_> don't be silly
[11:40] <andreas_> now come have a nice warm shower with me
[11:41] <jobezone0> well, if you ask so nicely...
[11:41] <jobezone0> :)
[11:43] <jobezone0> how come Googlism.com can find resuls for "damn shit", but not for my name?
[11:44] <jobezone0> http://www.googlism.com/what_is/d/damn_shit/
[11:47] <fdelacruz_> any nessus user?
[11:47] <fdelacruz_> how to add user in nessus
[11:51] <m0ns00n> Hey
[12:00] <_nano_> !checkinstall
[12:00] <ubotu> somebody said checkinstall was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[12:02] <DocTomoe> !alsa
[12:02] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[12:04] <jobezone0> !katapult
[12:04] <ubotu> katapult is, like, an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[12:04] <jobezone0> fun game, type alt+space
[12:06] <jobezone0> then start typing "k" and after that type each letter of the alphabet, and see if it finds a kde application for each. If one word is missing, install a corresponding app.
[12:09] <DocTomoe> what is the standard procedure for fixing soundchip-related problems in kubuntu?
[12:10] <jobezone0> http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=12842
[12:10] <jobezone0> I think it's the same way with ubuntu
[12:10] <l3m> DocTomoe: what sound problems do you have?
[12:12] <DocTomoe> I upgraded to dapper on a test machine. KDE tells me arts could not be started because "device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device)". However, I have entries for /dev/dsp[0-3] .*
[12:13] <l3m> and you do have a symlink for /dev/dsp to dsp0 (or the one you want to use)?
[12:13] <DocTomoe> l3m: there is a symlink for /dev/dsp that has existed since I put ubuntu on that machine.
[12:15] <_jeff> what's the difference between DAO and TAO in K3B?
[12:15] <DocTomoe> Can this have something to do with kernel modules not being loaded? [for Information, this is a Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)] 
[12:15] <DocTomoe> _jeff: DAO= Disk At Once ... TAO = Track At Once
[12:23] <_jeff> My K3B does not burn. It stops in the "writing data cd(k3b data project)" and keeps asking me to insert an empty CD. Please help
[12:26] <DocTomoe> _jeff: maybe it is not a software failure ... is this really a blanc CD and is your drive ok?
[12:28] <deFrysk> did you run K3bSetup ?
[12:40] <dissed> anyone who knows how to install limewire?
[01:04] <jobezone0> do you advise on Saving and restoring sessions in KDE, or in starting one anew each time you login?
[01:05] <jobezone0> I've read somewhere about possibilites of doing the first keeping some processes "crud".
[01:06] <jobezone0> I would prefer the latter, but I guess how many times I'll want to use it?
[01:06] <jobezone0> Like, right now, something's wrong with the KDE mediamanager, so I won't be reusing this session.
[01:06] <deFrysk> dissed, get the Linux (RPM) from limewire.com
[01:07] <deFrysk> dissed, sudo apt-get install fakeroot alien
[01:07] <deFrysk> dissed, fakeroot alien Limewireblah.rpm
[01:08] <deFrysk> dissed, sudo dpkg -i limewireblah.deb
[01:09] <deFrysk> dissed, also install sunjava as suggested here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[01:11] <jobezone0> bye all
[01:15] <dissed> deFrysk: thanks
[01:16] <dissed> i got a .sh file when i run in console it says access denied, when i run sudo it says command not found, any1 know why?
[01:20] <bimberi> dissed: try     sudo sh file.sh
[01:20] <dissed> ok
[01:21] <dissed> thx a lot, it worked
[01:23] <bimberi> np L)
[01:23] <bimberi> :)
[01:24] <bimberi> s/L/:/
[01:35] <_nano_> could anybody successfuly compile kblogger?
[01:43] <flixor> i was wondering how could i turn off the behaviour of konqueror that it loads html pages in my local documents
[01:43] <hugelmopf> flixor: you mean when you click on a html-file in the filemanager?
[01:44] <flixor> well whenever i go to a dir where there is a index.html file it will load the html file instead of showing me the files in the directory
[01:45] <hugelmopf> strange, that does not happen for me. how did you start konqueror?
[01:45] <flixor> normaly from the menuy
[01:46] <flixor> i know there is an option to change this behaviour but cant find it
[01:46] <hugelmopf> from the menu means via "Internet - Konqueror"?
[01:48] <flixor> yes
[01:48] <hugelmopf> this will use the web-browsing profile, which might be the reason for your problem. try starting konqueror from the system icon.
[01:49] <flixor> ehm nope
[01:49] <flixor> i am not using the webbrowsing profile
[01:50] <hugelmopf> so did you try it from the system icon?
[01:51] <flixor> well hugelmopf there must be an options in konqueror "use index.html"
[01:51] <flixor> but i cant find it
[01:53] <hugelmopf> i don't know where it is. would have expected it to be off by default for filemanagement.
[01:55] <flixor> yes but it seems this options is somehow changed location
[01:55] <flixor> or is not in the kubuntu version of konqueror :(
[01:57] <hugelmopf> is it not in "View"?
[01:57] <hugelmopf> i found it here, but i am using the kde-3.5 packages
[01:57] <flixor> in view
[01:57] <flixor> let me check
[01:58] <flixor> ehm no i cant find it there i have allso the kde 3.5 packages
[01:58] <flixor> there is another options but that is for preview
[01:59] <hugelmopf> hmmm... i just tried with a fresh user and it is not there, while it is there for my regular user.
[02:01] <_nano_> !konqueror
[02:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[02:02] <hugelmopf> i just don't understand it. konquerors options seem to be crippled for a fresh user, while they are fine for my "old" user account.
[02:03] <flixor> i think its a kubuntu thing
[02:03] <hugelmopf> i wonder if this was done by kubuntu developers to "increase usability", but then we could just as well use gnome, i guess.
[02:03] <flixor> the hide options for the user
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> hugelmopf: yeah, there's an entry about getting old functionality back on kubuntu.org faq
[02:03] <flixor> i know
[02:03] <flixor> but i had it already
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> apparently they want linus to say kubuntu sucks too.
[02:04] <flixor> and its gone
[02:04] <flixor> lol
[02:04] <hugelmopf> ah... always good to read the FAQ :-) does this fix your problem, flixor?
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> Nothing pisses me off more than hiding functionality because it might be confusing to idiots.
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[02:10] <jobezone> I see I've made it to the Hall of Fame
[02:10] <flixor> dunno but i hope so
[02:11] <jobezone> :)
[02:11] <flixor> thanks anyway let me dive into the faw
[02:11] <flixor> i think my settings changed when i upgraded to kde 3.5
[02:11] <flixor> because i already changed to the old style konqueror
[02:12] <jobezone> nevermind :/
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> flixor: yeah, because it changes in /usr/share, so your changes likely could have been undone.
[02:12] <flixor> kee
[02:16] <_nano_> anyone knows about using adblock with konqueror?
[02:20] <jobezone> I think it's in kde3.5
[02:20] <jobezone> just found this http://jrepin.blogspot.com/2005/07/jlps-kde-35-previews-part-1.html it seems that it's in 3.5
[02:26] <zbyszek> hi
[02:30] <hugelmopf> if you open konqueror, the address field does not have focus. is that the same for everybody here?
[02:31] <_nano_> jobezone: hey but i don't see no option ..i have kde 3.5
[02:36] <deFrysk> _nano_, configure konqueror then choose adblock filters
[02:36] <deFrysk> in kde3.5 that is
[02:38] <jobezone> hugelmopf: For me, the focus goes to the adress bar.
[02:40] <hugelmopf> is this 3.4 or 3.5?
[02:42] <jobezone> hugelmopf: 3.4.3
[02:42] <hugelmopf> hmmm... ok, then it is maybe a 3.5 problem
[02:42] <jobezone> Breezy's kubuntu with all updates
[02:43] <jobezone> does anyone use fireflier?
[02:44] <jobezone> what config tool do you use to configure the firewall?
[02:45] <hugelmopf> anybody here with 3.5 who can verify this for me?
[02:48] <zbyszek> jobezone: I have no idea
[02:51] <GameCat> anyone in who knows about the hotplug system?
[02:53] <dissed> will a ipod be recognized when i run itunes through crossover?
[02:53] <dissed> an*
[02:55] <andreas_> try it
[02:55] <andreas_> speaking of iPod
[02:55] <andreas_> "- I got the shuffle. Lightweight, honk it on. And you shuffle the shuffle."
[02:59] <dissed> another ipod related thing, will amarok be able to interact with it?
[03:01] <jjesse> dissed: i use amarok for my wife's ipod and it works great
[03:01] <jjesse> where is the setting to keep konversation always on top?
[03:01] <dissed> jjesse: ok, thanks a lot
[03:01] <dissed> havent got mine at home right now, so thats why im asking instead of testing it myself
[03:04] <_jeff> my sound fails after suspend to RAM. Is there any solution?
[03:09] <je4d> _jeff: try rmmoding your sound driver module before suspend, and modprobe after
[03:25] <_nano_> just installed kde 3.5 some dependencies couldn't be met
[03:38] <Riddell> _nano_: what's that?
[03:38] <Riddell> _nano_: on breezy?
[03:41] <dissed> wtf, earlier today i was able to play certain mp3s that iv had problems with before, i changed absolutely nothing from when i could play them, and now im back to square one, any ideas?
[03:41] <dissed> im using oss and amarok
[03:41] <dissed> ossink
[03:42] <dissed> xine engine?
[03:42] <dissed> is that better than gstreameR?
[03:42] <deFrysk> I prefer it till gstreamer 1 is out
[03:43] <hugelmopf> anybody else here running KDE 3.5? if you open konqueror, the address field does not have focus. is that the same for everybody here?
[03:43] <dissed> ill try that then
[03:43] <jjesse> on dapper or or breeezy?
[03:44] <jjesse> no issues on dapper
[03:47] <_nano_> Riddell: yeah on breezy
[03:47] <_nano_> Riddell: sorry for the late response, couldn't figure out why konqueror is not loading pages
[03:47] <_nano_> Riddell: so was busy googling on firefox
[03:48] <dissed> get the same shit with xine
[03:48] <dissed> dammit
[03:48] <_nano_> deFrysk: you're using dapper? what's the difference from breezy?
[03:50] <deFrysk> less stable mostly ;p
[03:50] <deFrysk> and a shorter boottime
[03:51] <deFrysk> and i just switched from gnome to kde
[03:51] <_nano_> deFrysk: like could you give some examples on where you faced problems?
[03:51] <deFrysk> for now that is
[03:51] <_nano_> deFrysk: me too :)
[03:51] <deFrysk> _nano_, crashing konqueror and krusader
[03:51] <dissed> `system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols. <- anyone who knows what that means?
[03:52] <deFrysk> and amarok just crashed for some reason
[03:52] <_nano_> deFrysk: is konqueror loading all pages properly?
[03:52] <deFrysk> _nano_, as a browser you mean ?
[03:52] <_nano_> deFrysk: I couldn't load http://www.google.com/  ...it works only when I remove the trailing slash...weird
[03:52] <_nano_> deFrysk: yeah
[03:52] <deFrysk> _nano_, checking..
[03:53] <deFrysk> _nano_, no issues here ;)
[03:53] <_nano_> deFrysk: including trailing slash?
[03:54] <deFrysk> including trailing slash
[03:54] <deFrysk> afk
[03:54] <_nano_> deFrysk: could you tell me your connection settings? socket time out and all ?
[03:54] <_nano_> deFrysk: i would just replace mine with yours and see if that works
[03:56] <_nano_> deFrysk: try this site : http://buzz.blogger.com/   do you get to see a navbar on the top?
[03:59] <sorush20> how do I increase the size of the thumbnails in konqueror?
[05:04] <hussam> anybody can help with a printing problem. I have my HP deskjet 3650 printer setup correctly. but it will only print from non-kde programs.
[05:05] <hussam> if I try to print from a kde program, I get the following error: "Error while reading filter description for true. Empty command line received"
[05:05] <hussam> I can still print from firefox and openoffice.org 1.9.129
[05:07] <hussam> I even removed the printer, re-added it, and did a '/etc/init.d/cupsys restart' still the same. this actually used to work in the past but I'm not sure why it is not working now.
[05:08] <hussam> so any help is appreciated.
[05:08] <hussam> in the meantime I installed acrobat reader so I can print pdf documents.
[05:10] <hussam> I also did dpkg-reconfigure kdeprint
[05:19] <hussam> nobody here?
[05:20] <deFrysk> I am here
[05:20] <deFrysk> but not able to help you unfortunately
[05:24] <hussam> I'll ask in #kde
[06:38] <zvodd> Whats the packages manager called in kubuntu?
[06:39] <darkheart> adept
[06:40] <darkheart> or kynaptic, irrc
[06:40] <darkheart> err iirc
[06:41] <seth_k> adept is breezy's version
[06:41] <Zeusz> hello
[06:42] <zvodd> i've got "breezy"
[06:42] <Zeusz> can u pls tell me with what can I open CHM files
[06:42] <zvodd> does kubuntu 5.10 have LAMP preingstalled? coz i have no idea how to tell / set it up
[06:43] <Riddell> it comes with Linux preinstalled
[06:43] <Riddell> zvodd: but if you want server stuff try ubuntu-server
[06:43] <zvodd> do you mean i should reinstall with the server option?
[06:44] <zvodd> or is it a diffrent download?
[06:44] <Riddell> no, that just doesn't install the graphial bits
[06:44] <Riddell> ubuntu-server is a CD with no graphical stuff but lots of server stuff
[06:45] <zvodd> That would be quite good, but a kinda want to do both... for developing a PHP site
[06:45] <Riddell> zvodd: but just install apache, mysql and php for LAMP
[06:46] <zvodd> where can i find the ubuntu-server download? or is it just an installer option
[06:48] <Riddell> same place as kubuntu and ubuntu download
[06:48] <zvodd> because i would like to put LAMP on my kubuntu Home system, and run a no-graphics ubuntu-server at work.
[06:48] <zvodd> really  i must have missed it
[06:49] <zvodd> ty
[06:50] <jjesse> zvodd: you could always type server at the install for kubuntu
[06:51] <zvodd> ... i am confused now, is there a seperate download, or do i just do what jjesse has said?
[06:52] <jjesse> ubuntu-server is designed around a server installation....
[06:52] <jjesse> is that correct Riddell
[06:53] <Riddell> a "server" install is ubuntu or kubuntu without any graphical stuff
[06:53] <Riddell> ubuntu-server is a separate CD with lots of server packages on it
[06:53] <Riddell> I don't know what happens if you do a "server" install of ubuntu-server
[06:54] <Riddell> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/breezy/
[06:57] <zvodd> ty Ridell that link is very good
[07:05] <zvodd> where are apache config files?
[07:07] <jjesse> in /etc/apache2
[07:07] <jjesse> i think
[07:11] <zvodd> i am trying to find the Synaptic Package Manager dialog, but its not in the same place as the ubuntu wiki suggest (i think because its gnome) where can i find Synaptic Package Manager in kubuntu
[07:20] <mth`MAW> zvodd: alt+f2 synaptic
[07:20] <mth`MAW> mh
[07:20] <mth`MAW> in Kubuntu
[07:20] <mth`MAW> oka
[07:20] <mth`MAW> y
[07:20] <mth`MAW> Open a konsole
[07:20] <mth`MAW> type
[07:21] <mth`MAW> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:21] <mth`MAW> than your passwd
[07:21] <mth`MAW> wait until she is ready
[07:21] <mth`MAW> an than tell her to open synaptic with:
[07:21] <mth`MAW> [2005-12-16 19:20:31]  <mth`MAW> zvodd: alt+f2 synaptic
[07:21] <mth`MAW> :)
[07:21] <mth`MAW> should work...
[07:24] <_jason> okay, I just installed ubuntu-desktop.  The fonts look very different from what I am used to in gnome.  Is there a setting somewhere or is this just a theme issue?
[07:24] <_jason> i mean kubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <_jason> ok I found it, never mind
[07:29] <mth`MAW> okay...
[07:30] <mth`MAW> I could not help with that problem...
[07:30] <mth`MAW> Font looking well her :)
[07:56] <toko123> greetings
[07:57] <toko123> how do I add something to my startup program list K?
[07:58] <toko123> I want to be able to execute a program from the K scrool list?
[07:58] <andreas_> right-click the K-button
[07:58] <andreas_> and choose "Edit menu" or something like that in the menu that pops up
[08:00] <_jason> can someone recommend a theme that is less bright than the default.  It's hurting my eyes :)
[08:01] <toko123> andreas:thanks
[08:02] <Insomniac-> _jason: take a look around on kde-look.org
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Hooray
[08:26] <DaSkreech> If I chage the arch of the kernel will Kubuntu maintain the new kernel?
[08:30] <_jason> I installed kubuntu-desktop a few minutes ago and played with the theme and fonts.  Now when I try to start gnome, it won't start.  The panel just appears and disappears, repeatedly.  The background never loads, it just has the solid brown.  What can I do?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> What did you select when you logged in?
[08:31] <_jason> DaSkreech:  GNOME
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Is it running GDM or KDM?
[08:32] <_jason> DaSkreech: GDM
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Ok
[08:32] <DaSkreech> I take it you are in KDE now
[08:33] <_jason> DaSkreech: yeah :)
[08:34] <DaSkreech> hmm Never had that happen to me
[08:35] <_jason> DaSkreech: I managed to login once.  But my gnome panel had the gradient from KDE, which was strange.  So I decided to reboot.  Then I couldn't even start gnome
[08:36] <_jason> DaSkreech: I'm going to try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop unless you have something else I could try
[08:39] <_jason> ok here we go, I hope it doesn't break kde now too
[08:40] <_jason> hrmm it won't work, doesn't want to reinstall all the dependencies :?
[08:40] <_jason> I'll try just gdm
[08:48] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Hi hi
[08:49] <crimsun> hi
[08:49] <DaSkreech> If Iupgrade the arch of my kernel will Kubuntu maintain the new kernel?
[08:50] <crimsun> what?
[08:50] <Freedomzen> Hi all has anyone recently installed using a daily built iso?
[08:51] <Freedomzen> my kde is borked
[08:51] <DaSkreech> If I upgrade teh kernel from a 386 to some newer arch when there is a kernel upgrade will it upgrade the new arch or both the new arch and the old 386 one?
[08:52] <Freedomzen> no kcontrol icons are screwed no web browser cant edit modules cause I cannot install them
[08:52] <crimsun> DaSkreech: upgrades are only revelant for already-installed packages.
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Right :-)
[08:52] <Freedomzen> kde for the matter will not  upgrade cause it runs into dependancy problems
[08:53] <DaSkreech> crisum: I'm assuming that installing a 686 or K7 kernel will still eave teh 386 one on the computer
[08:53] <DaSkreech> In case something terrible happens
[08:54] <DaSkreech> so when a new kernel comes out both should be on the computer as installed packages correct?
[08:54] <crimsun> DaSkreech: installing another arch leaves the old one, yes.
[08:55] <_jason> okay, I have good news (for me at least).  I'm in gnome right now with a different account and it works fine.  So KDE must have just messed up a setting somewhere in my other account.  Do you guys know how to reset all the gnome related config files in gnome or should I just ask in #ubuntu?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> Right So when a new one comes out would both archs be upgraded or just the one in current usage?
[08:55] <Freedomzen> can someone take a look at this pastebin for me? http://pastebin.com/466963
[08:56] <Freedomzen> thats my problem
[08:58] <_jason> ubotu, info kdevelop3
[08:58] <ubotu> kdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 3500 kB
[08:58] <_jason> Freedomzen, do you have universe enabled?
[08:58] <Freedomzen> _jason: yep
[08:59] <_jason> Freedomzen, do 'sudo apt-get install kdevelop3' and see what happens
[09:00] <Freedomzen> it complains more about missing files
[09:01] <_jason> Freedomzen, did you 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[09:01] <Freedomzen> yep
[09:01] <Freedomzen> lol
[09:01] <Freedomzen> guess it's my fault as this is dapper
[09:02] <Freedomzen> :P
[09:02] <_jason> lol oh...
[09:20] <_jason> Hi, I'd like to remove all of the packages that were installed along with #kubuntu-desktop.  What would be the best way to proceed?
[09:20] <_jason> lol sorry, not the channel... just the package kubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <hugelmopf> wrong channel for that question! ;-)
[09:21] <hugelmopf> no, seriously: how did you install that package?
[09:21] <_jason> apt-get, I liked kde but it borked my gnome... probably a fluke but I'd like to uninstall it
[09:22] <hugelmopf> i believe aptitude has someting like "dependency tracking" for removing packages, i.e. if you remove a package, it can also remove things that were only installed as deps and are not needed anymroe
[09:22] <Riddell> jpatrick: how did it break gnome?
[09:22] <jpatrick> Riddell: pardon?
[09:23] <_jason> Riddell, after logging out of kde and attempting to login to gnome I couldn't.  The panel would just appear and disappear.  I'm on gnome now with a different account, but I can't fix the original account.  So I am going to have to transfer all my files now etc..
[09:23] <Riddell> jpatrick: that was to _jason, sorry
[09:24] <jpatrick> Riddell: no problem
[09:24] <jpatrick> Riddell: and thanks for the kxdocker upload
[09:24] <Riddell> _jason: could you try removing gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and seeing if that fixes it
[09:25] <_jason> Riddell, I can try, like I said gnome works fine with accounts I didn't use kde on
[09:26] <jpatrick> Riddell: lastest package: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1211
[09:27] <_jason> Riddell, okay, going to try to login now, brb
[09:27] <_menza> Hi
[09:27] <_menza> I just installed Baghira from the repos
[09:28] <_menza> How do I launch it?
[09:28] <jpatrick> _menza: System Settings -> Appearance
[09:28] <_menza> jpatrick: the file manager that is
[09:28] <_menza> I did configure the theme
[09:28] <_menza> No wait
[09:28] <_menza> I have to compile it
[09:28] <_menza> dang.
[09:29] <_menza> No wait
[09:29] <_menza> I don't
[09:29] <_menza> Weird.
[09:29] <jpatrick> _menza: File Manager?
[09:29] <_menza> http://baghira.sourceforge.net/download.shtml#deb
[09:29] <_menza> Yes
[09:29] <_menza> http://baghira.sourceforge.net/pix/ssp/0.7/bonafide/standardalifinder0rh.jpg as such
[09:30] <_menza> The file manager I was told is Baghira
[09:30] <_jason> Riddell, okay it logged in
[09:30] <jpatrick> _menza: Baghira is a KDE theme
[09:30] <_jason> that must ahve been the problem
[09:30] <_menza> jpatrick: Well, what's that finder thing then?
[09:30] <_menza> Anyone knows?
[09:31] <Riddell> _jason: ok, thanks, guess it's time to remove gtk2-engines-gtk-qt from kubuntu then
[09:31] <darkheart> katapult?
[09:31] <_jason> Riddell, but my fonts are extremely small here (I made fonts smaller in kde).  Can I reset the size in gnome somehow?
[09:31] <hugelmopf> Riddell: no! that sounds bad...
[09:31] <hugelmopf> Riddell: can't you just make it not install by default and give a warning on installation?
[09:32] <Riddell> hugelmopf: well it'll move to universe
[09:32] <jpatrick> _menza: `sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'
[09:32] <_jason> Riddell, and to remove all of the kubuntu-desktop dependencies like you were mentioning earlier, would I just 'sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop' or do I need to add something to take care of the dependencies?
[09:32] <Riddell> _menza: I believe the finder thing is konqueror in that screenshot
[09:32] <hugelmopf> Riddell: ok. i thought you were going to remove it from the archives.
[09:32] <Riddell> _jason: remove libqt3-mt
[09:34] <_jason> Riddell, wow neat...
[09:35] <_menza> jpatrick: I have baghira already :P
[09:35] <jpatrick> _menza: go to System Settings and configure it
[09:35] <dg7abl> hi
[09:35] <_jason> Riddell, thanks for your help
[09:35] <_menza> http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.shtml# <- does anyone know if this tutorial can be used for Kubuntu? It seems like he transformed Mandriva.
[09:36] <dg7abl> anybody  knows an germen k/ubuntu channel?
[09:36] <_menza> !ger
[09:36] <ubotu> I don't know, _menza
[09:36] <_menza> !de
[09:36] <ubotu> I heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:36] <dg7abl> thx
[09:36] <_menza> bitte :)
[09:37] <dg7abl> dane :)
[09:37] <darkheart> Hehe
[09:37] <dg7abl> danke
[09:37] <_menza> !start an editor war
[09:37] <ubotu> joe is better than emacs.
[09:37] <darkheart> No it's not!!
[09:38] <_menza> emcas > all
[09:38] <_menza> but meh
[09:38] <_menza> no trolling I guess
[09:38] <darkheart> Haha..I don't like emacs too much actually.
[09:40] <_jason> vim
[09:40] <hugelmopf> if you are starting new (i.e. don't like one shortcut scheme over another), i have noticed, that kate gives you a lot more productivity.
[09:41] <kangpeh> hey ;)
[09:41] <darkheart> kate is definitely nice. I like vim, but there is definitely something to be said about actually using the GUI if you have one.
[09:41] <hugelmopf> especially now with the sessions management.
[09:41] <kangpeh> i just switched to kubuntu from gnome
[09:41] <kangpeh> i was wondering
[09:41] <_jason> gvim
[09:41] <kangpeh> is there a way to get rid of the useless gnome programs
[09:42] <kangpeh> cuz i really like kde better than gnome
[09:42] <kangpeh> it runs so much faster and smoother
[09:42] <kangpeh> on my laptop
[09:42] <kangpeh> makes my computer seem newer haha
[09:42] <hugelmopf> kangpeh: welcome. you might want to remove one of the core gnome libraries and see what that pulls in?
[09:42] <kangpeh> hugelmopf:  ahh but i dont want to lose gtk support o-o
[09:42] <kangpeh> cuz there are SOME programs that i'll need
[09:42] <kangpeh> like evolution
[09:42] <kangpeh> lol
[09:43] <hugelmopf> kangpeh: yes, i know. trial and error i guess. you should remove a gnome library, not necessarily a gtk-core library
[09:44] <_jason> kangpeh, just put evolution back after it gets rid of everything
[09:44] <_jason> i just removed kde and i'm bringing back amarok :)
[09:44] <hugelmopf> kangpeh: or use kontact, it is very nice!
[09:45] <kangpeh> hmm
[09:45] <kangpeh> how can i switch
[09:45] <kangpeh> when all the emails are in my evolution
[09:45] <kangpeh> lol
[09:45] <kangpeh> :(
[09:45] <kangpeh> but more importantly, how do i install new themes for kde 3.5 in ubuntu lol
[09:45] <kangpeh> i wanna make this look a bit btter
[09:45] <kangpeh> also i installed superkaramba
[09:45] <kangpeh> how do i actually use it
[09:45] <kangpeh> i want to make this look cool
[09:46] <kangpeh> cuz kde is f'n state of the art thats for sure
[09:46] <jpatrick> kangpeh: `import'
[09:47] <kangpeh> import?
[09:47] <jpatrick> import from evolution
[09:47] <kangpeh> oh
[09:47] <kangpeh> that can be done lol
[09:47] <kangpeh> dam
[09:48] <kangpeh> yo jpatrick where do u get good themes what themes are you using
[09:48] <kangpeh> i want this
[09:48] <kangpeh>  to still be FAST and SMOOTH and CLEAN looking but i want it to also run fast smooth and clean
[09:48] <hugelmopf> kangpeh: depending on how evolution stores your emails, you might be able to use them right away in kontact (mbox or maildir storage are both native for kontact)
[09:48] <kangpeh> but i want it to look cool
[09:48] <jpatrick> kangpeh: http://kde-look.org
[09:48] <kangpeh> im on that site
[09:48] <kangpeh> :(
[09:48] <kangpeh> i dont really know what to do
[09:49] <jpatrick> kangpeh: look around
[09:49] <jpatrick> kangpeh: my favourite SuperKaramba theme is "Liquid Weather ++"
[09:50] <kangpeh> how do i turn superkaramba on
[09:50] <kangpeh> i installed it but i dont see it in the applications?
[09:51] <jpatrick> kangpeh: open it in SuperKaramba
[09:51] <kangpeh> i mean how do i open superkaramba
[09:51] <kangpeh> first lol
[09:52] <jpatrick> kangpeh: K-Menu -> Utilities -> Desktop (If KDE 3.5) -> SuperKaramba
[09:54] <kangpeh> isn't there a correct way to do this jpatrick though
[09:54] <kangpeh> to install themes i mean
[09:54] <kangpeh> cuz like
[09:54] <kangpeh> this seems so ghetto
[09:55] <kangpeh> not using .de's
[09:55] <jpatrick> kangpeh: download a theme to disk and run it in SK
[09:56] <kangpeh> sk?
[09:56] <kangpeh> could not rename partial file in /tmp/kde-andy
[09:56] <kangpeh> or someshit
[09:56] <jpatrick> SuperKaramba
[09:56] <kangpeh> when i tried to install crap in superkaramba
[09:57] <kangpeh> no themes, i mean isn't there a better way to install a theme for kde in general
[09:57] <kangpeh> like i want MacOSX theme lol
[09:57] <jpatrick> kangpeh: I recommend downloading the themes from http://kde-look.org in the SK section
[09:57] <jpatrick> kangpeh: `sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'
[09:58] <kangpeh> is baghira buggy
[09:58] <kangpeh> jpatrick ?
[09:59] <jpatrick> no
[10:00] <kangpeh> what do u use
[10:00] <jpatrick> Plastik
[10:00] <kangpeh> plastik
[10:00] <kangpeh> ahh
[10:00] <kangpeh> isn't that really plain looking though
[10:00] <jpatrick> I like it
[10:00] <kangpeh> jpatrick i want to hvae the mac osx task bar at the bottom
[10:00] <kangpeh> :(
[10:01] <jpatrick> `sudo apt-get install kxdocker'
[10:01] <kangpeh> plus
[10:01] <kangpeh> will this kde tell me when new updates are out like gnome did
[10:01] <jpatrick> yes
[10:01] <jpatrick> Adept Updater
[10:01] <kangpeh> basically i want to complete have kde replace gnome, but i dont wanna lose any features
[10:02] <jpatrick> kangpeh: well KDE has a lot more features
[10:02] <kangpeh> is kxdocker btw better than a superkaramba docker theme
[10:02] <jpatrick> No
[10:03] <jpatrick> it's an app
[10:03] <kangpeh> eh
[10:03] <kangpeh> which is better
[10:03] <jpatrick> One's a theme manager the other's a dock
[10:03] <kangpeh> oh
[10:11] <kangpeh> jpatrick
[10:11] <kangpeh> how do i turn on kxdocker
[10:11] <kangpeh> lolz
[10:11] <jpatrick> run it
[10:11] <jpatrick> Alt-F2: type `kxdocker'
[10:15] <zvodd> when i type 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' it tells me that it can't find the package or that it is linked, ie it won't install
[10:16] <zvodd> i am trying to enable Universe and Multiverse so that i can install PHP4
[10:17] <zvodd> How do i expand apt-get s list?
[10:17] <jpatrick> zvodd: `kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/soucres.list'
[10:18] <zvodd> and then wat do i add?
[10:19] <jpatrick> zvodd: uncomment the uni and multi lines (remove the '#' in front of deb)
[10:19] <zvodd> ok thanx
[10:28] <zvodd> do i need to log off and on or somthing because when i do apt-get install , its displays a whole bunch of messages "No such file or directory"
[10:55] <mornfall> adept users around?
[11:03] <kosh> well I have been using adept
[11:19] <mrmarcel> hi
[11:21] <mornfall> nm, i already figured
[11:42] <osh_> anyone good with python? I have a question about the "zipfile" module.
[11:42] <osh_> All I want it to do is to unpack a zipfile with subdirs, which it doesn't appear to do.
[11:46] <Anakashar__> is there any way to find the /dev location of a usb device in dapper?
[11:47] <osh_> Anakashar__: doesn't dmesg tell you that?
[11:51] <Anakashar__> nope
[11:53] <osh_> Anakashar__: Nothing like "new usb device; /dev/sdb2" or something?
[11:54] <Anakashar__> nope
[11:54] <osh_> Is the device working?
[11:55] <Anakashar__> if i do lsusb, it shows that it's there and it sees it
[11:57] <osh_> Anakashar__: Do you see any message about "waiting for the device to settle" when you plug it in?
[11:57] <Anakashar__> never saw anything like that, should i unplug and replug it back in?
[12:00] <osh_> Anakashar: Try that.
[12:01] <Anakashar> ok, done
[12:01] <osh_> Anakashar: And what does dmesg say?