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sistpotysiretart: I guess it allows about everything, at least the from: address can be specified12:03
siretartsistpoty: looks like: The caller may pass a list of ESMTP options (such as "8bitmime") to be used in "MAIL FROM" commands as mail_options.12:04
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raphinkJohnnyMast: reviewed12:05
JohnnyMastand ?12:07
JohnnyMastooh reading...12:07
JohnnyMastraphink you think i should depend on debhelper >= 5.0 ?12:10
raphinkthat's what is recommended now12:10
sistpotysiretart: oh, you already fixed it... well then I guess I'll just leave it as it is now, and care for other changes12:10
raphinkI use >>512:10
JohnnyMastok thanks12:10
JohnnyMastyes me 212:10
JohnnyMast5.0.712:10
kos_tomgood night !12:10
raphinkoh well if you want ;)12:10
raphinkgn kos_tom12:10
siretartok12:11
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siretartsleep12:11
siretartcu tomorrow then!12:11
sistpotygn8 siretart12:12
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JohnnyMastraphink can you vote as well ?12:12
raphinkwhat do you mean JohnnyMast ?12:13
JohnnyMastadvocate12:13
raphinkI cannot advocate if that's what wyou mean12:13
raphinktechnically I can, but I am not allowed to, since I'm not a MOTU12:13
JohnnyMastok, but your help is very welcome my friend12:13
raphinkgn siretart12:13
raphink:)12:13
JohnnyMastit helps me improof the quality of the package12:14
raphinksur12:14
raphinksure12:14
raphinkand believe it or not, reviewing packages also teaches me a lot about packaging :)12:14
JohnnyMastspeaking of packing12:14
JohnnyMasti should repack my own ftpd12:15
JohnnyMastthe current packing is a laugh12:15
JohnnyMaston view of even me would make me gigle12:15
JohnnyMastand enum the errors12:15
raphinkreally?12:15
JohnnyMastyeah its all hard coded12:16
JohnnyMastlet me link you12:16
raphinkwell the thing is that it must be a merge from debian I guess12:16
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raphinkhi Kyral12:16
JohnnyMastraphink http://sourceforge.net/projects/eftd12:18
raphinkoh this is a package you found there and that is not included in ubuntu yet?12:18
JohnnyMastthis is it ... http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/eftd/extreme/debian/12:19
JohnnyMastno12:19
JohnnyMastits what icoded12:19
JohnnyMast*coded12:19
raphinkoh well then12:19
raphinkyou can package it12:19
JohnnyMastand NOT ready for any os12:19
raphinkwhy?12:19
JohnnyMastwell the core is stable12:19
JohnnyMastbut it has litle bugs12:20
raphinkok12:20
JohnnyMastwhen i want it in ubuntu/debian what ever i make sure its stable12:20
raphinkit's not in debian either12:20
JohnnyMastour team has some other software (wich im also planning to pack for ubuntu) in fedora and gentoo12:20
raphinkyes, thats right :)12:20
KyralTeam?12:21
Kyralwho12:21
raphinkwhat team?12:21
JohnnyMastrosiello12:21
JohnnyMastwww.rosiello.org12:21
JohnnyMastwhen you see rave on that site12:21
JohnnyMastits me12:21
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raphinkooo12:22
JohnnyMastand rosiello.net == my own domain12:22
raphinkthat's not W3C-compliant at all ;)12:22
JohnnyMastpfft12:22
KyralBah!12:23
JohnnyMasti have something on my TODO that will rock ubuntu`s CMS`es12:23
raphinkwell heh12:23
KyralScrew W3C compliance :D12:23
raphinkthere are bugs with the page on konqueror12:23
JohnnyMast100% w3 and good for comunity`s12:23
JohnnyMasti used to host a comunity on that software12:24
raphinkwhat is that JohnnyMast ?12:24
NafalloKyral: now I will forever associate you with IE :-P.12:24
JohnnyMastits edge12:24
KyralNafallo: hell no!12:24
KyralNoo!!12:24
JohnnyMastthe cms that neworder.box.sk uses12:24
KyralThats a fate worse than death! Or no Internet!12:24
raphinkNafallo: haha12:24
Nafallohehe12:24
KyralI'll be good! I promise!12:24
raphinkyou wanted it, you got it ;)12:24
JohnnyMastNafallo thats an insult in a room of unix geeks12:25
NafalloJohnnyMast: yea, I know :-)12:25
JohnnyMast:p12:25
Nafallobut that comment deserved it ;-)12:25
KyralI Darn You To Heck! ;P12:26
Nafallomy girlfriend almost got called windows by me yesterday ;-)12:26
KyralOUCH12:26
Nafallono sex in some weeks :-/12:26
KyralThem's fighting words ;P12:26
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KyralWhat Windows doesn't put out either?12:26
Kyral;P12:26
JohnnyMastNafallo you need to study this word "libsex"12:27
JohnnyMastkeeps ur mind of of windows12:27
Kyralholy cow there is actually a libsexy1 package12:27
JohnnyMast:)12:27
JohnnyMastthats the linux version of i love you12:28
JohnnyMastthe love bug :p12:28
Nafallo:-)12:28
Nafallobaah, she'll get over it :-P12:28
Nafallomy parents bought us a new bed in early xmas present today so... ;-)12:29
JohnnyMastguys12:29
JohnnyMastquestion12:29
JohnnyMastare you supposed to drink maliboo mixed ?12:29
Kyrallol12:29
KyralNafallo: man mount? ;P12:29
JohnnyMastbecause im drinking some heavy stuff here12:29
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NafalloKyral: baah. just because I lost virginity after starting to use linux :-P12:30
dholbachgood night everybody12:30
Nafallodholbach: gnight mate, see you tomorrow :-).12:30
JohnnyMastdholbach gn12:30
dholbachsee you... *yawn*12:30
JohnnyMastdholbach thanks for ur review btw !12:30
KyralNafallo: roflmao12:30
JohnnyMastgreat job12:30
dholbachde rien12:30
JohnnyMastde rien ?12:31
dholbach"anytime"12:31
dholbach"you're welcome"12:31
JohnnyMastooh ok12:31
JohnnyMastsleep well12:31
dholbachc'est franais :)12:31
dholbachyou too... later :)12:31
JohnnyMastik ben nederlands12:32
JohnnyMastnow that we are talking about nationality`s12:32
raphinkgn dholbach12:32
NafalloJohnnyMast: dholbach is german :-).12:32
Nafallohe just talks to much to seb128 :-P12:32
raphinkhehe12:32
JohnnyMastur breaking my pride here12:32
JohnnyMast:/12:33
raphinkje bin van de niederlanden JohnnyMast ?12:33
JohnnyMastraphink thats dholbach language12:33
JohnnyMastgerrman12:33
raphinkhmm12:34
raphinkno12:34
JohnnyMastyes12:34
raphinkin german it would be12:34
raphinkdu bist von etc...12:34
raphinkje ben van ... is dutch12:34
JohnnyMastich bin her flick12:34
raphinkor so I think12:34
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JohnnyMastraphink your correct sentence in dutch was12:35
JohnnyMastje komt uit nederland JohnnyMast ?12:35
raphinkok12:35
Nafalloehm12:35
raphinkI still have to learn ;)12:35
raphinkthat was somethign in between ;)12:35
raphinkhehe12:35
dholbach*wave* :)12:35
raphinkNafallo: and where are you from?12:35
raphinktsch12:35
Nafalloraphink: Sweden :-)12:35
raphinkzu spt12:35
JohnnyMastraphink we dont use unlouds12:35
raphinkah :)12:36
JohnnyMastits just plain abc for holland12:36
raphinkyes JohnnyMast I know that12:36
Nafalloanyone else got an unsubscribe mail to universe-bugs?12:36
JohnnyMastwe are the easy ppl12:36
JohnnyMastNafallo yep12:36
JohnnyMastme as well12:36
raphinkno Nafallo, inte jag12:36
JohnnyMastswedish !12:36
JohnnyMastick12:36
raphinkwell `no' is not swedish I think12:36
JohnnyMastjag jag jag12:37
raphinkeh don't make fun :p12:37
Nafalloit's nej on swedish :-)12:37
NafalloJohnnyMast: you you you ;-)12:37
raphinkYou have been unsubscribed from the Motu-reviewers mailing list12:37
raphink:(12:38
raphinkNafallo: no it's `je je je'12:38
Nafalloraphink: yea. seems universe-bugs is unsubscribed from there then ;-)12:38
raphinkmet u u u12:38
raphinkNafallo: yes, according to what we discussed lately on #ubuntu-meeting12:39
raphink;)12:39
raphinkooo12:39
Nafallooh12:40
NafalloI've must have missed that.12:40
raphinkI had no idea asking for approval on the LP group would sent a bug12:40
raphinklol12:40
raphinkNafallo: yeah I guess ;)12:40
raphinkbut \sh sent reports to the motu list12:40
JohnnyMastrapthink im en exploatren med l , vem frena jag?12:40
raphinkyeah yeah, sure12:41
JohnnyMastswedish12:41
raphinkheel goed, JohnnyMast12:41
JohnnyMastw0w12:41
raphinkbara bra12:41
JohnnyMastvery good for you as well12:41
raphink:p12:41
JohnnyMastim a developer with beer, who joins me ?12:41
raphinklol12:41
Nafallonope, not swedish :-P12:41
raphinkyep ;)12:42
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JohnnyMastacording to http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?url=http%3A%2F%2F&type=text&text=im+a+developer+with+beer%2C+who+joins+me+%3F&from=eng&to=swe it is12:42
raphinkswenglish12:42
raphinkfor the most12:42
raphink;)12:42
JohnnyMastswengilish12:42
raphinkJohnnyMast: since when do machines decide what swedish is ?12:42
raphinkwhere are you from sistpoty ?12:42
raphinkdeutschland auch?12:43
sistpotyraphink: germany/near nuremberg12:43
sistpotygenau12:43
raphinkach gut :)12:43
JohnnyMastraphink since a machine rasied me12:43
JohnnyMasti trust them12:43
raphinkvielen Deutschen hier12:43
JohnnyMastnein12:43
raphinkllol12:43
JohnnyMastich unter Moritz12:43
raphinkwat zagst u ?12:44
JohnnyMast(his jabber name)12:44
raphinkhow terrible is this?12:44
raphinklol12:44
JohnnyMastits okey :)12:44
JohnnyMastdu ist besser then ich12:44
Nafalloanyway, gnight guys12:45
JohnnyMastsee ^^^ thats wrong already12:45
raphinkik wiess dat niet12:45
raphinknight Nafallo_away12:45
JohnnyMastgnNafallo12:45
JohnnyMasti still dont know if you have to mix maliboo12:45
raphinklol12:45
raphinkI'd like to learn dutch but there's no dutch channel on tv12:45
JohnnyMastim still drinking it pure12:45
raphinkhehe12:45
JohnnyMastraphink when you learn dutch ttb is a package for you12:46
JohnnyMastit shows whats on tonight on tv12:46
raphinkoh ok12:46
JohnnyMastand the news and stocks etc ...12:46
raphinkwell I know dutch tv stream son the internet12:46
raphinkbut I prefer to watch the real tv12:46
JohnnyMastyeah me to12:46
JohnnyMastBUT12:47
JohnnyMastin a few days12:47
JohnnyMastmr /me boards a airplain12:47
JohnnyMastto go british and maybe 2600`ish12:47
raphinkecht?12:47
JohnnyMastyes12:47
JohnnyMastim heading to the UK baby12:48
JohnnyMastand ship some ubuntu cd`s12:48
raphinkgoed :)12:48
raphinkwhat for?12:48
raphinkhaha12:48
JohnnyMastto my PRO freebsd girl12:48
raphinkyes that's a must12:48
JohnnyMastsee i have a unix chick12:48
JohnnyMastbut12:48
McFergusfreebsdgirl.com ? :P12:48
JohnnyMast:( freebsd12:48
raphinkMcFergus: lol12:48
JohnnyMastim gonna make her horney all over my desktop12:49
raphinkhuh that even exists !!12:49
JohnnyMastand further upstairs12:49
McFergusyap..12:49
JohnnyMastis that the promo site12:49
McFergusand she's even hot12:49
JohnnyMastwith the pictures ??12:49
JohnnyMastas the linux chicks ?12:49
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JohnnyMastspeaking of funny domains12:51
JohnnyMastwich domain did you think i registered for my ircd ?12:51
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Kyralhey ajmitch12:52
JohnnyMasti registered anircd.com12:52
JohnnyMastso is called the project -.com12:52
McFergusso?12:52
ajmitchraphink: debhelper can't be in Build-Depends-Indep for good reasons12:52
JohnnyMastits a fun domain realy12:52
raphinkajmitch: why?12:53
raphinkajmitch: but then that gives a lintian warning on build-depends without arch12:53
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ajmitchraphink: because items in the clean target (dh_clean) are called before the indep b-d12:53
ajmitchare fulfulled12:53
raphinkhmmm12:54
raphinkso?12:54
ajmitchso it must be in Build-Depends12:55
JohnnyMastgood i was still awake to read this12:55
JohnnyMasti changed it back with all do respectraphink12:55
JohnnyMast**i changed it back with all do respect raphink12:55
raphinksure JohnnyMast12:56
raphink:)12:56
raphinkI'm learning everyday :)12:56
raphinkwell every hour even12:56
JohnnyMastraphink same here12:56
JohnnyMastand i can gues you can even recall me entering here12:56
JohnnyMastyou learn quiite quick here12:57
ajmitchraphink: I can dig up the threads on debian-devel about it :)12:57
ajmitchhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg01806.html12:57
raphinkthat's ok ajmitch12:57
ajmitchhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg01805.html12:57
raphinkso that means that when we use cdbs and debhelper with _all_ packages12:57
raphinkwe need to have both depends and depends-indep ?12:57
ajmitchI think so12:59
ajmitchbefore we go around changing things I'd better check this out12:59
ajmitchto make sure I don't give people bad info ;)12:59
raphinkmhm12:59
raphinkwell that would mean I'd have to modify some of my packages aswell01:00
ajmitchsure01:00
ajmitchI think that functionally it's not a problem, as the buildds work without it :)01:00
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ajmitchotherwise we'd see large archive breakage01:00
raphinkyep01:00
raphinkwhat are the bugs he's talking about then?01:01
ajmitchbut policy states that Build-Depends for clean target01:01
ajmitchBuild-Depends-Indep doesn't cover the clean target01:01
ajmitchhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=21674701:01
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raphinkoh01:02
raphinkthat's _if_ you're using debhelper in your clean target01:02
raphinkwhich is not always the case01:02
raphinkmost of the time, we just use rm in the clean target01:02
raphinknot dh_stuff01:02
ajmitchum01:02
ajmitchwe often use dh_clean01:02
ajmitchit is very common to use it01:02
raphinkhmm right01:02
raphinkmhm01:02
raphinkand does cdbs use it too?01:03
ajmitchbasically *anything* in the clean: target should be in Build-Depends01:03
ajmitchyes01:03
raphinkor does cdbs not use debhelper?01:03
JohnnyMastcdbs uhu01:03
JohnnyMastt has a debhelper.ml somthing like it01:03
JohnnyMast(me mixes in the convo sorry)01:03
raphinkdebhelper.mk01:03
ajmitchalso http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=21649201:03
raphinkwhich I guess uses dh_clean in clean::01:04
ajmitchit does01:04
ajmitchcdbs should be in Build-Depends as well, iirc01:05
raphinkand we have to ignore lintian output on this, then01:05
ajmitchwhich is why I want to get it clarified01:06
ajmitchwhether I ignore lintian or not :)01:06
raphinkand seems lintian has to be ignored on this matter01:07
ajmitchhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=33975001:07
ajmitchsame for 32113501:07
raphinkic01:08
raphinkok01:08
raphinkso for example, in konq-kim, I have01:08
ajmitchI can say that packages work & build fine now with just Build-Depends-Indep01:08
raphinkBuild-Depends-Indep: debhelper (>> 5), cdbs, docbook2x01:08
ajmitchit's just not technically 'correct'01:08
raphinkin that case01:08
raphinkdebhelper and cdbs should go to build-depends01:08
raphinkand docbook2x stay in -Indep01:08
ajmitchraphink: afaict, yes :)01:09
raphinkright?01:09
ajmitchI think so01:09
raphinkshall I add an override file, too?01:09
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raphinkhehe01:09
raphinkok01:09
raphink;)01:10
raphinkI don't like override files01:10
raphink;)01:10
ajmitchneither do I, really01:10
raphinkit's like hiding informative things01:11
raphinkif lintian output have to be ignored, then there's no reason to hide them01:11
raphinkhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=118801:13
raphink;)01:13
raphinkajmitch: btw, would you have some time to review one or two packages?01:15
raphinknot sure if I asked already :s01:15
ajmitchnot really, sorry01:16
raphinkok01:16
raphinknp :)01:16
sistpotyok, I guess I'll break revu once again, so please don't upload packages atm01:16
ajmitchbtw, when reviewing packages01:20
ajmitchhaving a dh_make template full of # dh_... might be grounds for rejection01:20
raphinkgood to know01:21
raphinkso we should have people remove their # dh_ from rules ?01:21
ajmitchthey will be rejected in debian, so we can have similar rules here01:21
ajmitchraphink: yes please01:21
raphinksure01:21
raphink:)01:22
raphinkis it ok to keep _useful_ comments in rules though?01:22
ajmitchI don't like people uploading stuff when they have no idea what the various dh_* programs are01:22
ajmitchof course!01:22
raphinklike comments explaining the reason of a line?01:22
raphink:)01:22
raphinkjust to be sure :)01:22
ajmitchthis is just for the dh_make boilerplate01:22
raphinkcause I like to comment my scripts01:22
raphinkyes01:22
ajmitcheg, when you can see that they haven't changed much at all01:22
raphinkjust `comments by default made by the auto script' 01:22
raphinkyes I understand01:23
ajmitchjust use your judgement on it ;)01:23
raphinksure01:23
raphinkI'll keep that in mind :)01:23
ajmitchthese should be put on ReviewingTips or PackagingTips01:23
ajmitch& the mailing list01:23
raphinkI was willing to update the ReviewingTips01:23
raphinkjust today01:23
raphinkalso with the `debuild && debuild -S' test01:23
ajmitchwe still expect high standards in universe01:23
raphinkchecking diff for files not cleaned while building deb01:24
ajmitchyes01:24
ajmitchdefinitely01:24
raphinkand other stuff01:24
raphinkI wanted to list all the stuff to check on a package01:24
sistpotygrml... revu1... grml... package vanished... grml01:24
raphink:)01:24
raphinksistpoty: oops01:24
sistpotywell, it was only my test package, but it vanished nontheless ;)01:24
ajmitchsistpoty: breakign things again?01:24
sistpotysure ajmitch01:25
ajmitchyay01:25
ajmitchraphink: well #dh_... might not be rejection, but at least strong comments ;)01:25
raphinkok01:26
ajmitchwe'll take it to the list for discussion01:26
raphinkwell it's better to avoid them01:26
ajmitchagree on some reviewing principles01:26
raphinkajmitch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewingTips01:27
raphinkjust added the build test to it01:27
ajmitchok01:27
raphinkhmm not very clean01:28
raphinkI'll modify it01:28
ajmitchwarn people to check the rules & makefile before doing that01:28
ajmitchsince some packages install into /usr during build01:28
ajmitchwhich is really quite bad01:28
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ajmitchthis ought to be automated in pbuilder hooks01:28
raphinkmhm01:28
ajmitchthere's a lot that can go wrong to mess up a reviewer's system :)01:29
raphinkindeed01:30
raphinkwe get so many dependencies installed, too01:30
raphinkand just build weird stuff01:30
freeflyingraphink: hi01:30
raphink;)01:30
raphinkhehe01:30
raphinkhi freeflying01:30
sistpotyyay... mail on package upload to revu works01:31
raphinkgreat :D01:34
raphinkgood work sistpoty :)01:34
raphinkyou rock ;)01:34
sistpotythx :)01:34
raphinkthat'll be a great help01:34
sistpotynow I'm afk for a smoke, and then I guess I'll review a package and test advocating ;)01:35
raphinkwhich one ?01:35
raphink;)01:35
sistpotynot decided yet ;)01:35
raphinkshall I suggest you one of mine?01:35
raphink;)01:35
sistpotygo ahead...01:36
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raphinkI'd suggest http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1171 :)01:36
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sistpotyraphink: knmap looks very good :)02:15
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raphinkthanks :)02:18
raphinkyou can advocate it if you like it ;)02:19
raphinkhehe02:19
sistpotycheck mail ;)02:20
raphinkok :)02:21
raphinkno mail :(02:22
sistpotyhm... are you subscribed to motu-reviewers?02:22
raphinknope02:23
raphinkcoudln't find where02:23
raphinkif you give me the address I will02:23
sistpotyhttp://tauware.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/motu-reviewers02:23
raphinkthanks02:23
raphinkI'll will02:23
raphinklater ;)02:23
raphinkIO'm playing now02:23
raphink;)02:23
sistpotyhf02:24
raphinkhehe02:24
raphinkwesnoth :)02:24
raphink2vs202:24
sistpotyah02:24
sistpotygl02:24
raphinkthanks02:25
sistpotyraphink: nmap uploaded02:27
sistpotyknmap even02:27
raphinkty02:27
raphink:)02:27
raphink:)02:31
raphinkit's a nice app02:32
minghuaRiddell: ping02:50
LaserJockcrap, my linux box is going to be replaced with an iMac >:(02:52
minghuaraphink: just FYI, a new hex4ht is in debian incoming right now, version 20051214-102:53
raphinkgood :)02:53
ajmitchLaserJock: why?02:57
LaserJockmy boss just told me02:57
minghuadoes ubuntu NEW queue has a web interface?02:57
LaserJockI was using my personal machine for work02:57
LaserJockbut now I get a new iMac02:57
Kyral....put Ubuntu on it02:58
LaserJockand I don't think I get to use linux on it02:58
LaserJockI'll install it anyway02:58
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Kyralbingo02:58
sistpotygn8 everyone02:58
LaserJockcya sistpoty02:58
minghuanight, sistpoty02:58
KyralTell him its free and will increase your productivity02:58
LaserJockI guess I can take my Ubuntu box home and ssh in to do packaging, etc.02:59
ajmitchminghua: no, the NEW queu for ubuntu is generally short, unlike debian02:59
minghuawhat I'm looking for is the skim package02:59
minghuait's labelled as uploaded in REVU02:59
minghuabut I actually have some comments on it02:59
minghuaI wrote a mail to the maintainer and Riddell, but got no replys03:00
minghuatoday suddenly it's uploaded03:00
ajmitchheh03:00
ajmitchstrange03:00
ajmitchwho uploaded it?03:00
minghuasiretart, it seems03:00
=== ajmitch doesn't see it on revu
minghuabut Riddell gave a advocate03:01
minghuaajmitch: the bottom, archived bunch03:01
ajmitchok03:02
Kyralhey ajmitch what did you want me to do about those build warnings in EasyChem?03:02
minghuamy biggest concern is that the orig.tar.gz doesn't match with the (proposed) debian one, not even the .orig.tar03:02
ajmitchKyral: fix them all ;)03:03
ajmitchKyral: well do what you want03:03
Kyralajmitch: *hand to face*03:03
Kyralajmitch: You assume I know how and what those errors even MEAN03:03
ajmitchhoepfully if you're packaging it you know the source ;)03:04
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KyralNot usually lol. If it fails to build then I look at the source :P03:05
ajmitchthese warnings wouldn't cause a build failure on i38603:05
ajmitchmaybe a segfault when you run the program, on amd6403:05
ajmitch*maybe*03:06
Kyralyah all I saw the "String length is too big" or something, how the heck am I supposed to handle that? I didn't even know strings had a size limit03:06
ajmitchno, the other ones03:06
ajmitchthe pointer warnings03:06
Kyral...I didn't even see those03:06
ajmitchgenerally indicates less-than-optimal casting03:06
Kyralah03:07
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=== bmonty doesn't understand my programmers don't make their code compile without warnings
KyralI try to get mine to compile without warnings03:07
ajmitchbmonty: because older compilers didn't throw those warnings03:07
Kyralbarring the pain in the ass "no final newline" thing03:08
bmontyajmitch: I've seen lots of packages that throw warnings regardless of the compiler version03:08
jamessanKyral: any proper editor will make sure that newline exists03:08
bmontyBTW, latest make package solves the problem with cbds03:10
crimsunyeah, adam reverted that several days ago03:12
KyralOkay suddenly REVU won't load for me03:12
bmontyworks for me03:13
KyralI think my Torrents are going too fast...03:13
LaserJockis there much needed in the way of packaging for PPC? will I be able to do the same packaging?03:15
ajmitchcrimsun: newer make was synced after that03:17
ajmitchLaserJock: it should be identical03:17
ajmitchLaserJock: since all the packages we build are for ppc & amd64 as well03:17
LaserJockajmitch: really, that would be a relief, I've never used a mac before.03:17
Kyrallol03:18
LaserJockI am starting to freak out ;-)03:18
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=== minghua doesn't think ubuntu is a better choice for an iMac than OS X Tiger though ;-)
hubminghua: why>03:18
LaserJockminghua: yeah, but I still want to help out and be a MOTU some day03:19
hubLaserJock: you can make package on PPC03:19
hubno problem03:19
hubsince you make the source package03:19
LaserJockok, cool03:19
LaserJockmaybe I can calm down a bit. My universe might not be collapsing03:20
ajmitchyou wouldn't really be able to tell it was a mac03:20
ajmitchexcept for the crappy mouse :)03:20
LaserJocklol03:20
minghuahub: mostly because of the multimedia stuff, in my experience03:20
minghuahub: my experience with OS X is very good, it usually "just works" as long as no Chinese is involved03:21
LaserJockwell, I think I might have to stay with OSX and vnc or ssh to home or something03:21
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LaserJockno Chinese here03:21
imnesI downloaded a packages source, made some modifications, built and installed it.  Now the update-manager always shows the package needing to be updated (even though both my biuld and the original ubuntu build show the same version number)03:22
imnesHow can I fix it?03:22
LaserJockchange the version number03:22
hubminghua: it is not free03:23
LaserJockhub: well I don't have to pay for it so ...03:23
hubLaserJock: free as in speech03:24
hubshow me the source03:24
LaserJocktrue03:24
LaserJockcourse if it all works I don't care so much because I will still be working on Ubuntu too03:25
LaserJockthe thing that gets me is that my boss was the one that got me going on linux in the first place03:28
minghuahub: can't argue with that :-)  I am a student in science major though, so freeness isn't really that important to me03:29
minghuahub: mathematica, just as an example03:29
KyralFreedom is good03:30
hubminghua: well it is illegal to copy software if the license does not allow03:30
Kyralbut I'm not afraid to shatter an unjust license :D03:30
hubminghua: and MacOS X license does not03:30
minghuahub: my OS X is perfectly legal03:30
LaserJockminghua: LabView, there's another good one from the experimentalists world03:30
hubminghua: so you paid it03:31
hubminghua: with the machine03:31
huband the upgrade you'll have to pay it too03:31
LaserJockyep03:31
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minghuahub: yes, that's why i say "not a better choice for iMac", as you already paid for OS X03:31
KyralYou are locked into paying03:32
minghuahub: yes, that's the reason I'm still using Panther.  and I understand your pain (I read your blog about porting abiword to OS X)03:32
minghuahub: btw thank you for abiword03:32
Kyralhub ported Abiword to OSX?03:34
hubKyral: yep. sometime agi03:34
hubago03:34
KyralRock on hub :D03:34
KyralNow I can tell my friends who use OSX to not use MS Office and use Abiword :D03:35
hubnot yet03:35
hubit has some serious issues03:36
Kyralah03:36
Kyraloh well03:36
desrtKyral; much better... give them an ubuntu/ppc cd03:36
KyralRock on anyway :D03:36
LaserJockyeah, that is the other reason my boss likes OSX, there as so many people using Office that it is much easier to give in than fight it03:36
Kyraldesrt: My OSX friends have the superiority complex that seems to infect some OS X users03:36
desrtKyral; and i have the one that infects ubuntu users :)03:37
LaserJocklol03:37
Kyraldesrt: lol03:37
desrtexplain to them that they can switch without losing their complex :)03:37
minghuaLaserJock: go buy a copy of crossover office? ;-)03:38
LaserJockheck no03:38
Kyralno no no03:38
KyralOpenOffice!03:39
LaserJockbut the iMac will have Office on it so...03:39
LaserJockI guess on the bright side, I will get to use the cool genie effect thingy (expose or something)03:40
hubminghua: crossover does not work on PPC03:40
desrthub; qemu03:40
hubdesrt: lol03:41
minghuahub: I know.  I didn't mean that.  I meant "if you want to be compatible with all other office people, what about using linux and crossover instead of buying os x?"03:41
desrtoh man i hate it when ubuntu-desktop is uninstallable03:41
LaserJockI am sooo glad I recently got DSL at home, at least I should be able to ssh to my home computer03:41
KyralI <3 Broadband03:42
minghuaespecially you need to pay extra for ms office on OS X (at least when I bought my iBook)03:42
hubminghua: OpenOffice is actually a better bet... and AbiWord03:42
LaserJockwe have a university site license03:42
KyralI actually have to customize the OpenAFS Client package for the COSI03:43
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minghuahub: you mean for writing your own documents, or reading others' .doc?03:44
LaserJockok, I gotta get home. I guess I feel a little better about this whole iMac thing03:44
LaserJockcya all03:44
hubminghua: both03:44
Kyralcya LJ03:44
minghuawhile I more or less agree on the former, the latter is definitely not the case03:44
LaserJockto think I was going to have him get me a AMD64. darn!03:45
KyralI can use debian/postinst to do all modifications to config files right?03:45
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crimsunwould someone running Dapper with dev tools installed give me the output from: pkg-config "--atleast-version=2.4.0" "gtk+-2.0" ; echo $?03:57
crimsun(please have libgtk2.0-dev installed)03:57
crimsunok, resolved it. Thanks.04:01
crimsunApparently there's a missing dependency on libxdmcp-dev.04:01
hubcrimsun: I got that too when building04:02
hubcrimsun: pkg-config require it04:03
huband it is not there04:03
hubso there is a missing dependency04:03
crimsunhub: yeah, I see a related bug on libgtk2.0-dev: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=32619904:04
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crimsunwhat the.04:15
crimsunRejected: md5sum for04:15
crimsun+/srv/ftp.no-name-yet.com/ftp/pool/universe/x/xfmedia/xfmedia_0.9.1.orig.tar.gz04:15
crimsun+doesn't match xfmedia_0.9.1-1ubuntu1.dsc04:15
crimsunthere's no reference to the orig.tar.gz in the dsc04:15
crimsunsomething's amiss in the cogs, because "/srv/ftp.no-name-yet.com/ftp/" makes no sense04:19
raphinkpfiew04:21
raphink4:20AM04:21
raphinkgood time to go to bed after a wesnoth game of more than 2 hours04:21
crimsunwesnoth in dapper? :)04:21
raphinkyes04:22
raphink:)04:22
crimsuncool04:22
jamessancrimsun: why wouldn't the orig be referenced in the dsc?04:22
raphink2vs2 on the official servers04:22
raphinkthat was a nice game04:22
raphinkvery nice and long game04:22
crimsunjamessan: because I didn't pass -sa to dpkg-genchanges?04:23
raphinkand no one knew who was gonna win04:23
raphinktill about the 10 minutes before the end04:23
raphink:)04:23
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jamessancrimsun: just because you're not including the orig in the upload doesn't mean it shouldn't be mentioned in the dsc.04:25
crimsunthis error just makes no sense04:26
jamessanthat happened to me once before.  I just grabbed a new orig.tar.gz and rebuilt the package.  never did figure out what happened to alter the md5sum04:27
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raphinkhttp://www.kde-look.org/04:34
raphink:'(04:34
raphinkand before it starts jokes on KDE : http://www.kde-look.org/04:34
raphinkhttp://www.gnome-look.org/04:34
raphink:'(04:35
raphinkI'm heading to bed04:38
raphinkgood night04:38
crimsun'night04:38
raphink:)04:38
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dholbachgood morning motus09:17
ajmitchmorning :)09:18
=== ajmitch must have some programs being real memory hogs
Treenaksajmitch: nvidia-glx?09:19
Treenaksajmitch: evolution?09:19
ajmitchnah09:20
ajmitchwell nvidia-glx is here09:20
ajmitchbut it's an older one that doesn't tend to leak all voer09:20
ajmitchvarious things like e-d-s, apache, mysql, etc09:21
ajmitchthey all add up09:21
Treenaksthey do?!09:21
Treenaks;)09:21
ajmitch271 processes09:21
Treenaks142 here, and 2GB of RAM, and amd6409:22
ajmitchI closed muine earlier, it was up > 150MB09:22
ajmitchonly 1GB RAM09:22
ajmitchI've got both apache & apache2 running, for various reasons09:22
ajmitchas well as zope09:22
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lifelessazeem: package some plugins!09:23
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siretartmorning10:11
ajmitchmorning siretart10:12
siretartajmitch: did I do something wrong with skim?10:12
ajmitchnot that I know of10:12
siretartthere is a hilight in my backlog..10:12
siretartok10:12
ajmitchyou'd have to ask minghua10:12
siretartYes, I uploaded it, since I considered it fine for universe10:12
ajmitchhe said he still had some questions10:13
ajmitchyay, another sync10:15
siretartajmitch: did you read my rants on -project?10:15
ajmitchnope10:15
ajmitchI haven't been reading that list10:15
siretartsvenl said I was too rude..10:15
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siretartwhat should I think now of him? ;)10:16
ajmitchwere they good rants?10:16
siretartit was more of a misunderstanding10:16
siretarthe was implying that we motus were instructed NOT to use debbugs10:16
ajmitchoh right10:16
siretartfor contributing back patches10:17
ajmitchwell it's a debian list10:18
ajmitchsome amount of rudeness is expected ;)10:18
siretartyes, i've been watching debian lists for a while now10:18
ajmitchhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/12/msg00122.html <-- that one about 'official policy not to use the BTS'?10:19
ajmitchcrackful10:19
ajmitchI think it's about attaching a patch rather than linking it10:19
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siretartwhich seems to piss a lot of DDs of, having to use an ubuntu apache rather than having the patches in their inbox10:20
ajmitchyeah10:20
siretartajmitch: excatly. my rants began in that subthread10:20
ajmitchI'm reading the discussion on the utnubu list as well10:20
ajmitchand I'm reading your -project rants :)10:20
ajmitchI think there's some misunderstanding on both sides here10:21
siretartright, it got X-posted to utnubu10:21
siretartthis emailing of comments by revu seem really handy10:21
ajmitchcertainly10:21
ajmitchI think package subscriptions will be handy for revu2 (and part of launchpad eventually :) )10:22
siretartthat would be revu3 ;)10:22
siretarthttp://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/ipodslave-0512160300/ipodslave-0.7.1/debian/ipodslave-dev.install10:23
siretartme is confused about the debian/tmp/usr/lib/lib*.so10:23
siretartwhy should an .so go to a -dev package?10:23
ajmitchpolicy ;)10:23
ajmitchwell it's because the .so is only used for linking10:23
ajmitchsince it has no version info in the name10:23
siretartoh.10:23
ajmitchsee library packaging guide for gory details10:24
siretartI remeber vaguely10:24
ajmitchexecutables always look for .so.X at runtime10:24
ajmitchthe .so is just a symlink10:25
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azeemlifeless: dude, I tried to sync my phone with multisync-0.8x again last night10:28
azeemlifeless: I feel the pain, so I'll get to packaging RSN :)10:28
azeemlifeless: can you put up the opensync source package you uploaded to NEW somewhere?10:28
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ajmitchhi minghua10:35
minghuahi ajmitch10:36
ajmitchsiretart was wondering if he'd done something wrong with skim? :)10:37
minghuaI'm not supposed to be here...  I woke up in the midnight because I was too hungry10:37
ajmitchhehe10:37
ajmitchwe won't tell10:38
minghuaajmitch: no, not really, the package was generally fine10:38
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minghuaajmitch: what really surprised me is Riddell advocating it without even an answer to my mail10:38
ajmitchI've been so slack with merges lately10:38
siretartminghua: yeah, freeflying asked me in an email to review and advocate it. he waited so long, so I had another look10:39
minghuahi siretart, you are here!10:40
siretartminghua: yes, I woke eventually up :)10:40
minghuasiretart: I can send you the mail I sent to freeflying and Riddell about the comments on skim, want it?10:40
ajmitchhm, pycaml looks syncable10:41
ajmitchyay10:41
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ajmitchmaybe not, build-deps might need changed ;)10:41
siretartminghua: well, why not10:41
asbinhi all10:42
minghuasiretart: siretart@ubuntu.com?10:42
ajmitchhi asbin10:42
siretarthello asbin10:42
siretartminghua: right10:42
siretarthm.10:42
siretartwhy is my sound broken?10:42
asbinsiretart: I've just uploaded ushare package on revu ;)10:42
minghuasiretart: mail bounced10:43
siretartasbin: cool10:43
=== minghua is happy to receive the mail from katie, his sponsor just uploaded his package :-)
ajmitchminghua: great!10:45
minghuagood news in a hungry and cold night10:45
=== ajmitch always loves getting mail from katie, unless she rejects me
ajmitchsiretart: this mail for revu is great! :)10:46
ajmitchnow I can see new uploads10:46
ajmitchinstead of looking at a very very long list10:47
siretartyes10:47
siretartand you get every upload10:47
siretartnot just new ones. but I think they are marked10:47
ajmitchyep10:48
ajmitchasbin: ushare has debian/ in the upstream tarball?10:49
ajmitchsigh10:51
ajmitchbroken pbuilder again10:51
ajmitchFetched 5697kB in 1m19s (71.8kB/s)10:51
ajmitchFailed to fetch http://10.18.1.1:9999/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:51
ajmitchthis happens too often10:51
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ajmitchasbin: I'd suggest you don't have the "(asbin ;-] )" bit in debian/control10:56
ajmitchit may even confuse some programs10:56
ajmitchadmittedly there are a lot of packages that do have Name (comment) <email>10:57
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StevenKI wish I was motivated.11:25
StevenKI could be packaging PoCo::Ident, or merging wnn6-sdk for Dapper.11:26
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ajmitchI think I'll choose another option, and go & sleep11:33
ajmitchnight all11:33
minghuaajmitch: good night11:33
siretartgn8 ajmitch!11:36
Tonio_hi guys11:38
Tonio_what would do with that lintian error ?11:38
Tonio_W: kompile: extended-description-line-too-long11:38
Tonio_problem is due to that line :11:38
Tonio_Homepage: http://www.brainspace.it/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=2411:39
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Tonio_I can't splut it or remove the line so........11:39
Tonio_s/splut/split11:39
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minghuaTonio_: how many spaces do you have before that line?11:40
minghuaTonio_: in any case run lintian with -i option will give you a better idea11:40
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Tonio_minghua: the problem is just that the url is to long....11:50
Tonio_no need to investigate... the problem is what to do in that case ?11:51
Tonio_ignoring lintian's error ?11:51
Tonio_removing the homepage from debian/control ?11:51
minghuaTonio_: yes I can see that, I just wonder if having two spaces before the line (which makes it verbose, without linebreaks) would help11:51
minghuaor making it not verbose would help (but that seems against the policy)11:52
Tonio_yep11:52
Tonio_I can hack lintian on that point11:52
Tonio_but that's not clean at all....11:52
Tonio_I will ask to Riddell what he would do ;)11:53
Tonio_he revued to know because of that, so I assume he has a solution ;)11:53
ograTonio_, dont put the url in the description11:55
ograit should already be in copyright anyway11:55
Tonio_?11:55
Tonio_ogra: I would agree, but Ipersonnally received a few NO advocates because of that...11:56
Tonio_it is not against the policy, but onsidered as required by MOTUS...11:56
Tonio_well, if a reviewer can confirm he would put a YES in that case, I'll do it ;)11:57
ograi dont understand ? who of MOTU requests you to put urls in the description ?11:57
ograin any case a to long description line violates the policy ...11:58
ograthats why lintian complains ...11:58
ograan delmo wouldnt approve it for the archive ...11:59
Tonio_ogra, I'll do it and eventually explain the reason it is not there in the changelog12:00
ograno need to12:00
ograthere is no need to put urls in te description12:00
ograand since that url should be in the copyright file anyway, all is fine12:01
Tonio_ogra: in theory but on revu, a package who doesn't have homepage in control gets a no from most of the MOTUS....12:01
Tonio_want to see an example ?12:01
ograyes please, i'd like who requests that12:01
ogras/lik7/like to know12:01
Tonio_let me check and give you a few urls :)12:01
ogradholbach, ??? ^^^12:02
Tonio_revu is a terrible mess, so give me 10 minutes12:02
Tonio_not sure, but I think Daniel requests that yes...12:02
dholbachogra: ?12:02
Tonio_but I don't want to say without beeing sure12:02
Tonio_hi dholbach ;)12:02
ogradholbach, we require urls for pacages in the description now ?12:03
dholbachnot require12:03
dholbachbut i think it's nice to have12:03
ograsure it is, but thats no reason to reject a package12:03
Tonio_dholbach: I personnally already received NO just because of that, so....12:03
ograespecially if they break policy then12:03
dholbachogra: the policy?12:04
Tonio_well, in any case, I will remove the url from that package12:04
Tonio_dholbach: the url is too long12:04
ogradholbach, what do you do with such urls :12:04
ograhttp://www.brainspace.it/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=2412:04
dholbachTonio_: then remove12:04
Tonio_and causes a lintian warning12:04
dholbachogra: what do you mean?12:04
Tonio_dholbach: okay, and no need to explain why it isn't there ?12:04
dholbachogra: it's nice to be able to run apt-cache show <package> and look at the homepage, if anything goes wrong or i'm more interested in it - quite a lot of packages do it12:05
Tonio_problem is that certain MOTU wouldn't advocate for that....12:05
ogradholbach, it cant go conform with policy if you require such a long url in the description12:05
dholbachTonio_: we shouldn't make it a requirement12:05
dholbachogra: please read what i said before12:05
ograits a nice to have, i agree12:05
Tonio_okay, so I have the solution, I'm gonna remove the homepage from the file12:06
Tonio_thanks ogra, dholbach ;)12:06
ograbut a descriptive description is more important, and the url should be in the copyright already12:06
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Tonio_ho dholbach since your there, I have to contact elmo concerning pwmanager12:07
Tonio_gonna do it today12:07
dholbachcool12:07
dholbachso we finally get it in :)12:07
Tonio_I am more motivated that never ;)12:08
Tonio_problems resolved, so everything's okay12:08
dholbachTonio_: i'm glad to hear that12:09
Tonio_ho dholbach also12:09
Tonio_I had a problem with some packages12:09
Tonio_makefine.in in src when using MOC doesn't find .h files12:10
dholbachi have no idea, how moc works, sorry :/12:10
Tonio_it is a problem with path12:10
Tonio_not with moc12:10
Tonio_path to header files isn't good...12:10
Tonio_is patching the makefine.in a good way to proceed ?12:11
minghuaokay, I think my stomach is happy enough to let me sleep again12:11
Tonio_it is functionnal, but I find the way dirty.....12:11
dholbachTonio_: it depends, what is the error message?12:11
Tonio_dholbach: bla.h no file or directory12:11
Tonio_with the correct path it works12:11
dholbachshouldnt that be patched somewhere in the source?12:12
dholbachrather than Makefile.in?12:12
Tonio_nope12:12
Tonio_let me show you the patch....12:12
Tonio_dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/klibido-0512152120/klibido-0.2.4.1/debian/patches/kubuntu_03_fix_missing_header_files_using_MOC.patch12:12
Tonio_in fact the .h files are search in obj-linux directory, while they are not copied12:13
Tonio_and stay in the temp/package/src12:13
dholbachwow, that looks like buildsystem-on-crack :)12:13
Tonio_dholbach: I told you it was dirty lol12:13
Tonio_the problem is that I don't know what lse can I do12:14
dholbachhave a look if you can't set a default dir to look in12:14
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Tonio_the files are searched in obj-i386-linux12:14
dholbachand maybe ask riddell, the kde-buidsystem-meister12:14
Tonio_hum..........12:14
Tonio_a kind of path variable for header files ?12:14
Riddellhmm?12:14
dholbachyeah something12:14
dholbachmaybe in configure.*12:15
Tonio_I have two packages that have exactly the same problem12:15
Tonio_dholbach: in that statement, is that advocatable ?12:18
Tonio_just to define priority in my packages ;)12:18
dholbachTonio_: someone who can judge kde buildsystems should have a look at it12:19
dholbachit doesnt look earth-shatteringly stupid12:19
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Tonio_dholbach: and of course if ti builds correctly with the next version I will remove the package so...12:22
Tonio_will remove IT FROM the package ;)12:22
dholbachyeah12:24
siretartasbin: are you by chance also upstream of ushare?12:28
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siretartasbin: better release without that debian/ dir in the orig.tar.gz, so that all packaging related stuff remains in diff.gz12:29
Tonio_siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=119412:30
Tonio_siretart: I finaly corrected the .sh file in /usr/bin12:31
Tonio_patch sent to upstream, I'm waiting for a response12:31
siretartTonio_: I'm building it now12:35
Tonio_k12:35
siretartTonio_: the orig.tar.gz does not seem to match the upstream tarball12:40
siretartTonio_: why?12:40
Tonio_siretart: noted in the changelog12:42
Tonio_cvs dir in admin12:42
Tonio_.cvsignore file to remove12:42
siretartah, sorry12:42
Tonio_and a build system that causes a mess to build with pbuilder :)12:42
Tonio_so I simply took the klamav subfolder and rebuilt the tarball from that12:43
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siretartok12:43
siretartadvocated12:44
siretartlunchtime now, cu later12:44
Tonio_cool ;)12:44
Tonio_good lunch12:44
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\shmoins01:06
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slomohi \sh :)01:12
\shlol01:29
\shhttp://mtaylor.be/photos/albums/userpics/10002/Scene_1_AMD_Duron_Vaporizing_final_divx_lq1.avi01:29
slomo\sh: rofl... i should try this with my old athlon =)01:41
siretarthuhu \sh, hi slomo01:42
slomohi siretart :)01:42
\shslomo: it's faked btw...01:42
dholbachouch01:46
raphinkguys am I wrong or shouldn't upgrades of package in main be in REVU?01:48
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NafalloREVU is for MOTUs01:51
NafalloMOTUs is for Universe/Multiverse :-)01:52
siretartGRR01:54
siretartnow I know what broke my sound01:54
Treenakspitti?01:54
siretarthow to I define in new world oder which is my primary alsa soundcard?01:54
siretartno my shitty onboard chip gets as card001:54
ograsiretart, you should be able to select the output device in the desktop settings ...01:55
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siretartogra: does it become then card0 or do I just choose there which card I want to use?01:55
ograyou just choose01:56
siretartI need to make my sblive as card001:56
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ograopen system->settings->audio01:56
siretartbecause of some legacy apps01:56
raphinkthat's what I thought Nafallo01:56
ograthere is a selector01:56
raphinkthere's this upgrade of gcompris in the list right now01:56
raphinkalthough gcompris is main01:56
raphinkwhere should this guy go?01:56
siretartogra: default soundcard is empty for me01:56
ograthen thats wrong01:56
siretartogra: I cannot select anything01:57
ograraphink, ^^^01:57
ograsiretart, poke pitti ...01:57
raphinkhi ogra01:57
ograraphink, gcompris in REVU is definately wrong ...01:57
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raphinkogra: I mean what should I tell this guy to do?01:58
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ograthat its in main01:58
raphinksure01:58
ograand will be synced next week from debian anyway01:58
raphink:)01:58
raphinkoh ok :)01:58
raphinkgood01:58
raphinkI'll tell him that01:59
ograusually there are no ubuntu specific changes, i work tight with gcompris upstream ...01:59
ograso whats in debian most likely works fine for us ...02:00
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raphinkok02:03
raphinkI've commented and archived02:03
siretartthanks for archiving02:04
ograraphink, thanks for caring :)02:04
raphinkI do'nt manage to keep my house clean02:04
raphinkbut I do my best to keep REVU clean ;)02:04
raphinkhehe02:04
raphinkhehe02:04
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raphinkmessage received on motu-reviewers :)02:05
kos_tomhi02:05
kos_tomsiretart: hi02:05
raphinksistpoty's system works fine :)02:05
raphinkhi kos_tom02:05
kos_tomsiretart: I just received a mail from raphink telling me that uploading GCompris to Revu was a mistake ...02:05
kos_tomraphink: hi !02:05
siretartkos_tom: hey02:05
raphinkwow that was fast kos_tom ;)02:05
siretartkos_tom: ogra is here02:05
raphinkI just sent it02:05
raphinklike 20 seconds ago02:05
siretartkos_tom: 13:59:49 < ogra> usually there are no ubuntu specific changes, i work tight with gcompris upstream ...02:05
ograkos_tom, gcompris is in main02:06
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asbinI'm back, sorry ;)02:08
asbinsiretart : I'm one of the developpers of ushare02:08
siretartogra: he needs a new upstream of gcompris for his school I think02:09
asbinYou suggest to not include the debian/ dir in the tarball ? why ?02:09
siretartogra: so he packaged a new upstream version02:09
siretartasbin: because of separation of concerns02:09
siretartasbin: upstream work is upstream work, and packaging is packaging02:09
kos_tomsiretart: yep, exactly. Actually, it's not for my school, but for one school ;)02:09
ograthere is nothing newer than 7.002:09
asbinyes, but I want to have debian dir in the repository02:10
kos_tomand upstream really likes when new versions are packaged fastly.02:10
siretartasbin: do you know svn-buildpackage?02:11
siretartasbin: it's a great tool02:11
ograoh, there is, i just see i got a notification mail02:11
asbinthis package is maintained by arch, is there a tla-buildpackage ?02:11
ograkos_tom, are you fine with 7.1 ?02:11
kos_tomogra: personnally, I don't care. Users care. 7.2 has new activities, new administration functionalities, etc.02:12
ograkos_tom, could you ask debian to package 7.2 then ?02:12
ograi wont introduce big changes from debian if possible if we have to support the app for 3 years in dapper02:13
kos_tomthe problem is that users see the release announce, which announces new shiny features, so users wants the new version. Then they ask the upstream developer... but he can't do much, it is not possible to maintain packages for all distributions.02:13
ograi'll sync 7.1 asap from debian02:13
kos_tomI think Yann (from Debian) will soon upload a new version02:13
ograyup, then its fine ...02:13
ograi just want to keep the delta to debian small for dapper, gcompris is an essential bit of edubuntu02:14
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asbinsiretart: I found arch-buildpackage, I will try it ;)02:15
ogratwice as far away ?02:18
siretartasbin: :)02:24
asbinsiretart: I will try tla-buildpackage in fact ;)02:25
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siretart/dev/mapper/vg00-data00 1,5T  129M  1,4T   1% /mnt02:33
siretartthis is fun :)02:33
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raphinkhaha02:44
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azeemamoll: so are those ALL CAPS in BALL a design choice (like in your control; Package: BALLVIEW), or is this some legacy from having it on a DOS file system or so?03:29
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siretartasbin: oh, if you are using tla, then using that is really really handy04:27
siretartasbin: basically then use the config feature auf tla: you keep the upstream source and the debian/ dir in different branches and use configs to construct them04:28
siretartasbin: {arch,tla}-buildpackage are 'just' automating the workflow04:28
asbinsiretart: ok04:28
asbinsiretart: I don't know the config feature of tla, what is it ?04:29
siretartasbin: tla has some command 'buildcfg' (I'm not exactly sure how it is called)04:29
siretartasbin: it expects a simple textfile as parameter, which states line by line which branch of your repository should be mounted where04:30
asbinsiretart: ok, I will chek out some examples04:33
asbinsiretart: Or I can just make the releases without the debian directory, and use it just for building the package ?04:34
siretartasbin: exactly that's what I'm asking you to do04:34
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\shTheMuso: ping05:21
\shlets rock a bit05:22
dholbachTheMuso: i guess he's asleep05:25
\shI need a translation05:31
\shhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/partimage/+bug/538405:31
UbugtuMalone bug #5384: partimage: merge new debian version In: partimage (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New https://launchpad.net/bugs/538405:31
raphinkok then here05:32
raphinkslomo: could you advocate http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1163 again please?05:32
\shok...just understand05:33
slomoraphink: already almost done :P05:33
raphinkalready almost done ?05:33
raphinkhehe05:33
slomoyes, i only needed to login again and click on advocate ;)05:34
raphinkhehe ok :)05:34
raphinkthanks05:34
raphinkRiddell: when you have time, could you have a look at kyamo ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=110505:38
Riddell"when you have time"  that's the tricky bit :)05:39
raphinkhehe05:39
raphinkwell ignore it then05:39
raphinkcan you please review it?05:39
Riddellyes, I'll try to do it today, keep pesterin me if I don't05:41
raphinkok :)05:42
raphinkthanks05:42
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KyralI love being home05:44
KyralI can take as long showers as I want without people bitching at me05:44
raphinkhehe06:01
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JohnnyMasthi !06:01
raphinkhi JohnnyMast06:01
JohnnyMastaah raphink i was looking for you06:02
raphinkoh really?06:02
JohnnyMastyeah06:02
raphinkwell I was at home ;)06:02
raphinkjust come and knock I'm there ;)06:02
JohnnyMastsame here :p06:02
JohnnyMast* Make a patch for ttb.desktop to add GenericName entrie(s) to it, accordingly to the freedesktop.org standards.06:02
raphinkhehe06:03
raphinkyes but I was not looking for you06:03
raphinkyep06:03
JohnnyMastcould you explain me that point?06:03
raphink .desktop files need to contain GenericName entries06:03
raphinkI'll show you06:03
JohnnyMastNames[nl] 06:03
raphinkhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/46675106:04
raphinkthis is the patch I've done for Knmap's desktop file06:04
raphinkadding GenericName and Categories06:04
JohnnyMastchecking ..06:05
raphinkin your case, Categories is present so you don't need to patch that06:05
raphinkGenericName is the short description of the app that can be used in the menus06:05
JohnnyMastComment[xx]  is something that can be left out06:05
JohnnyMastas been found on line 706:06
raphinkprobably06:06
JohnnyMastyou can add it like06:06
JohnnyMastComment:06:06
JohnnyMastor06:06
JohnnyMastcomment=06:06
raphinkyes, I've seen it06:06
JohnnyMastthats the generic comment06:06
raphinkhmm no06:06
JohnnyMastbut i dont need it06:06
JohnnyMastits a dutch app06:06
raphinkso what?06:07
JohnnyMastthe comment in mine06:07
JohnnyMastis already in english06:07
raphinkyou can put GenericName and GenericName[nl] 06:07
JohnnyMasthmm thats a good point06:07
JohnnyMastok next thing, the man pages its required right?06:08
raphinkyes06:08
raphinkin Debian policy06:08
raphinkall binaries must have manpages06:08
JohnnyMastyes litnian warned about it06:08
JohnnyMastwell not all just /usr entry`s06:09
raphink;)06:09
JohnnyMastand /bin and /sbin06:09
raphinkyou can use docbook2x to create it easily06:09
raphinkyes06:09
JohnnyMastapt-get install docbook2x ?06:09
raphinkwell rather docbook2x in the Build-Depends06:09
raphink;)06:09
raphinkhave a look at the knmap package06:09
raphinklet me find it06:10
raphinkhttp://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/knmap-0512141825/knmap-1.0/debian/06:10
raphinkthere06:10
JohnnyMastok06:10
raphinkthere's knmap.1.docbook06:10
JohnnyMastthanks06:10
raphinkthat contains the xml to generate the manpages06:10
raphinkthen you need dependencies in control06:10
raphinkand rules in rules ;)06:11
raphinkto create and clean the files06:11
JohnnyMasthmm06:11
JohnnyMasthold a sec06:11
raphinkk06:11
JohnnyMastdh_installman gzips the manual package ?06:12
JohnnyMastbecause on ur link its plain and not compessed06:12
raphinkit installs the $appname.1 manual06:12
raphinkif present06:12
raphinkyes06:12
raphinkbecause the manpages are created in rules06:12
JohnnyMastlike as on my own ftpd it has a already gziped man page06:12
raphinkfrom the .docbook06:12
raphinkwhich is plain06:12
raphinkso it's easier to maintain06:13
JohnnyMastis docbook gui ?06:13
raphinkno06:13
JohnnyMasthmm oki06:13
raphinkit's a .docbook file06:13
raphinkit's xml06:13
raphinkwell it's up to you06:13
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raphinkusing docbook2x is easier imo06:13
JohnnyMasti installed it06:13
raphinkk06:14
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bddebianHowdy gang06:16
azeemBarry!06:17
dholbachhey bddebian!06:17
bddebianHi Daniel!06:17
dholbachhow are you, man?06:17
dholbachwe missed you06:18
bddebianTired man..06:18
bddebianI've missed you guys too :-)06:18
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bddebianSo what have I "Missed" ;-)06:18
bddebianBesides ajmitch's motu class :-(06:18
siretarthey bddebian!06:20
bddebianHowdy siretart.06:20
siretartbddebian: well, we did quite a lot of merges, had a REVU day, and are testing the new wonders of dapper06:20
siretartall in all: a great time :)06:20
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siretarthey pef!06:21
bddebianAye, I've been missing the hustle and bustle :-)06:21
pefhello06:21
dholbachhey pef06:21
pefhello Daniel06:21
hubhi06:22
JohnnyMasthi hub06:22
siretartbddebian: how was your time?06:22
\shhey bddebian06:23
\shbddebian: long time no see...where did you hide?06:23
bddebian\sh: At work :'-(06:23
bddebiansiretart: My time?06:23
siretartbddebian: you were busy with work and live, wife and kids, I assume, right06:24
siretart?06:24
\shbddebian: oh damn...06:24
bddebiansiretart: Aye, work mostly :-(06:24
\shbddebian: well...I resigned my job, and now i'm waiting for a new one, or a bridge with wifi access ;)06:26
sivang\sh: hehe06:26
siretart\sh: :(06:26
bddebian\sh: If I recall you were not happy there right?06:26
\shsiretart: lets see on monday e.g.06:26
siretart\sh: what is on monday?06:27
\shbddebian: well...it was fun...but it changed when our new bosses came06:27
bddebian\sh: Ah, I know that feeling06:27
\shbddebian: dude I missed you soo much at ubz06:30
bddebian\sh: Aye, me too, I was really pissed that I didn't get to go :-(06:30
bddebian\sh: How was it?06:30
\shbddebian: I said to siretart, "Siretart, nothing else matters, not even sabdfl, when bddebian doesn't come"06:30
bddebianHahaha, yeah right :-)06:31
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\shbddebian: great was it06:31
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sivangbddebian: what do you do at your job?06:32
sivangbddebian: (btw, again, Barry, hi!!)06:33
bddebiansivang: Just about everything but my title is "IT Manager" :-)06:33
sivangbddebian: oh, cool.06:34
sivangor , "Director of IT"06:34
bddebianor, "Peon" or "Jack of all trades, master of NONE" ;-)06:34
sivanghehe06:34
sivangbddebian: well, stuff really cracked on me lately in my job, too many re-orgs, switching managers, faulting specs, you name it ;-)06:35
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sivang(out IT Manager left some weeks ago)06:35
bddebiansivang: Yeah, that is never fun06:35
sivangbddebian: yep. I actually wouldn't mind it if I could catch up on Ubuntu stuff during the 48 hours I Have during the weekend, but that's SO hard given all the movement and traffic...06:36
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\shso..if you ever want to have a absolute nice movie..."The Interpreter" made by sidney pollack...watch it...nicole kidman, sean penn...very good thriller06:41
bddebianIf Nicole ain't nekkid, I ain't watching.. ;-P06:42
sivanghehe06:42
\shbddebian: ah...and I'm not compiling anymore on a hp nc6000 :) I just bought shortly before I left the company a sempron64 :)06:42
sivangbddebian++06:42
bddebianSo where's tseng and slomo?06:42
bddebian\sh: Nice06:42
sivangoh, sempron is sweet06:42
slomobddebian: i'm here :) hi btw... where were you the last weeks? we already missed you :(06:43
\shsivang: well...it's a bit faster then a 1.6GHz Pentium-M06:43
bddebianslomo: Work was much worse than I expected.. :-(   I read that you got main upload rights??  Congrats!!06:43
\shbddebian: siretart as well :) during ubz :)06:44
sivang\sh: I bought one 32 sempron for my sister, (2400+) , it seems much faster then my 2.6Ghz intel box06:44
slomobddebian: thanks :) i have almost no time for anything currently too :( well, need to get some food now :) see you later06:44
bddebianLaterz06:44
bddebian\sh: siretart = main?06:44
\shbddebian: yepp06:44
bddebianAwesome, congrats siretart06:44
siretartbddebian: thanks :)06:45
\shbddebian: it's a project.."MOTU Takeover of Main" ,)06:45
\shwhen we're good we will finish our project at the end of dapper release...more motus in main then paid devs *eg*06:46
raphinkhehe06:46
JohnnyMastraphink i dont get how to use docbook2x06:47
raphinkJohnnyMast: look in the package I sent you the url of06:47
JohnnyMasti did06:47
JohnnyMasti only see an xml file06:47
raphinkso ?06:47
raphinkyes06:47
JohnnyMasthow did you create it06:47
raphinkand I told you to look in debian/control and debian/rules aswell ;)06:47
raphinkoh06:47
\shJohnnyMast: in rules in install target06:47
raphinkI created the xml file manually06:47
raphinkjust take it and modify it06:48
raphink;)06:48
\shJohnnyMast: vim/emacs/gedit/kate06:48
raphinkmodify the xml file manually to fit your needs06:48
JohnnyMast\sh pico !06:48
raphinkand then use rules to build the manpages ;)=06:48
JohnnyMastaaah ok06:48
\shJohnnyMast: or do a dh_make in a dummy env...there is as well an example06:48
raphinknano rules ! :)06:48
JohnnyMastyep06:48
JohnnyMastok ty06:48
raphinkJohnnyMast: this is a gtk app though, no?06:49
JohnnyMastyep06:49
raphinkso try to find a gtk app docbook06:49
raphinksince knmap is qt06:49
JohnnyMastur man number is wrong i think06:49
JohnnyMastshould be 7 not 106:50
JohnnyMast 1   Executable programs or shell commands06:50
raphinkso what?06:50
raphinkknmap is an executable program06:50
JohnnyMasturs is a kde app right ?06:50
raphinkyes06:50
raphinkit's an exec app06:50
raphinkif I type knmap in a console06:51
raphinkit launches06:51
raphinkthat's what I call an exec06:51
raphink;)06:51
JohnnyMastwell ok06:51
raphinkno?06:51
raphinkyou don't seem to agree ;)06:51
JohnnyMastwell06:54
JohnnyMastyour right about the exec in 1 but 7 where man(7) is part of is also an executable06:55
JohnnyMast7   Miscellaneous  (including  macro  packages and conven06:55
JohnnyMast           tions), e.g. man(7), groff(7)06:55
raphink7 is for special stuff06:55
raphinkmost mans are 106:55
JohnnyMastin that case ur right06:55
raphink:)06:56
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JohnnyMasthi LaserJock06:56
LaserJockdholbach: ping?06:56
LaserJockhi JohnnyMast06:56
JohnnyMast:)06:56
LaserJockdang it dholbach left06:58
raphinkNo route to host07:00
raphinkhe's lost on the internet jungle07:00
raphinks/on/in/07:00
raphinkhi LaserJock btw07:00
bddebian\sh: So, is there an MOTUMainTakeover Team I can join? ;-)07:00
\shbddebian: right now and here..rock :)07:01
LaserJockbddebian!!!!07:01
bddebianHeya LaserJock, how goes it07:01
LaserJockwell, good, I just took the last final of my university career07:01
bddebianNice07:01
LaserJockI also became an Ubuntu member and a doc-team member07:01
bddebianAwesome, congrats07:01
raphink\sh: since sistpoty has done it so reviews are sent to motu-reviewers@t.d maybe it could be good to send a message to ubuntu-motu@l.u.c so people are informed of this07:02
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\shraphink: yeah do it :)07:02
raphink\sh: I do it myself ? ;)07:02
LaserJockbddebian: well, you really got me started on this whole thing so I am very thankful for that.07:02
raphinkhehe :)07:02
\shraphink: sure...I work right now :)07:02
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LaserJockanybody up for a quick REVU? I need to get plotdrop in Universe this weekend ;-)07:05
tsengbddebian: ?07:06
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LaserJockhi Kyral07:07
Kyralhey07:07
LaserJockfinals over?07:07
Kyralyah07:09
Kyralhome :D07:09
LaserJockgood, get to work *whip*07:09
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KyralOnly women are allowed to whip me ;P07:10
LaserJocksure ;-)07:10
raphink\sh: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/46682907:11
LaserJockKyral: anything up with FlowDesigner?07:11
KyralLaserJock: No...07:11
KyralLaserJock: I'll have to fix it myself it seems07:11
LaserJockKyral: do you know what to fix?07:12
KyralLaserJock: I think its just SONAME07:12
\shraphink: that's it :) send it dude :)07:12
raphinkok07:12
raphink:)07:12
LaserJockKyral: yeah, ok. Maybe it is better to fix it yourself and  then wait for them.07:13
Kyraland also EasyChem07:13
raphinksiretart: seems to me there's a 80KB diff on config.sub though07:13
raphinksiretart: ping07:15
bddebianLaserJock: My pleasure ;-)07:15
bddebiantseng: Just wanted to say hey!07:16
Kyralholy hell when did bddebian return?07:16
LaserJockKyral: what about EasyChem? Is there something wrong with it?07:16
KyralLaserJock: minor warnings in the build log07:17
bddebianHeya Kyral07:17
=== \sh needs a shower and has to go to the bloody bank
\shlaters07:17
Treenaks\sh: your blog broke again07:17
\shTreenaks: again...it's planet07:18
\shTreenaks: it's not the blog....07:18
\shTreenaks: all planetplanet implementation have this problem...because scott made a mistake it not using a good db backend07:18
tsengbddebian: hi07:18
\shok..gone for a while07:19
LaserJockKyral: well at least you've got one vote foe EasyChem, I got nada for plotdrop ;-)07:23
raphinkbye then \sh07:23
Kyralhehe07:24
siretartraphink: huh?07:32
raphinksiretart: the diff is 80KB, due to big changes to config.sub mostly07:33
raphinkfrom what I see07:33
siretartraphink: perhaps I can do some filterdiff magic07:33
raphinkwhat do you mean?07:33
siretartwhat package was this again?07:34
raphinkhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120507:34
raphinklook at the size of the diff07:34
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raphinkwb dholbach07:35
dholbachre07:35
dholbach:)07:35
raphinkglad to see you found your way back07:36
LaserJockhi dholbach07:36
siretartraphink: try the diff again, is this better?07:37
raphinkwhat do you mean? it's still 81KB07:38
siretarthttp://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=1204&upid2=120507:38
siretartit is now just a few lines07:38
siretartI modified diff.py07:38
dholbachsistpoty, raphink: you guys rock!07:39
raphinkdholbach: sistpoty rocks07:40
raphinkbut he's not here ;)07:40
raphinkI don't understand what you modified siretart :s07:40
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siretartraphink: http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=1204&upid2=1205 doesnt show the diff to config.{guess,sub} anymore07:40
raphinkah07:41
dholbachraphink: you rock too07:41
raphinkI was not referring to the debdiff siretart07:41
raphinkI was referring to the diff sent with the package07:41
raphinkty dholbach :s07:41
siretartraphink: ah, he is using a bad dh_make package, which copies config.{sub,guess} on clean target in debian/rules07:42
siretartunfortunatly, this is still in the default dh_make template and quite common07:43
siretart:(07:43
raphinkmh07:43
raphinkmhm07:43
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siretartenough ubuntu work for today (since about 10)07:44
dholbachsiretart: bon apptit07:44
siretartthanks, dholbach07:44
raphinkbrb07:45
slomosiretart: cdbs does the same... but saves the old ones and restores them on clean... much saner07:47
dholbachROCK, revu-mails work07:50
dholbachnice!07:50
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hubtoday is snow day07:53
dholbachhere too07:53
dholbachyay07:53
hubsince I don't have VPN access, I work at home07:53
huband can't work07:53
dholbachand it's drum'n'bass day later07:53
hub:-/07:53
hubdholbach: eheh07:53
hubthat will delay the laptop purchase though07:53
dholbachbut now i will think about giving-a-talk-later--day07:54
hubbtw when is the freeze for new package in Universe?07:55
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JohnnyMastraphink i patched the things you wrote about http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1207 thats the new version07:59
raphinkok07:59
raphinkI'll have a look later07:59
JohnnyMastok08:00
JohnnyMastany motu has some spare time to look now ?08:03
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\shhub: 19th january08:11
hub\sh: ok08:11
hubthx08:11
\shdholbach: "giving-a-talk-later"--day?08:13
hubis it safe to remove linux-restricted-modules package?08:13
dholbach\sh: umeet.uninet.edu08:14
hubas I don't have any hardware that requires it08:14
Treenakshub: if you don't have any hardware that needs it; yes08:14
raphinkhub: I think it's not required08:14
raphinkwell by default that is ;)08:14
\shdholbach: what is it?08:14
hubbyebye kernel tainting :-)08:14
raphinkit is if you use fglrx or so08:14
raphinkhehe08:14
hubraphink: I don't08:14
dholbach\sh: i need to make notes, just look at the page :)08:14
dholbach\sh: please :)08:14
raphinkok08:14
JohnnyMasti sugest a fix of a sentence that mails from revu to the mailing list08:20
JohnnyMastPackage was uploaded from: rave at rosiello.org08:20
JohnnyMastshould be Package was uploaded by: rave at rosiello.org08:20
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raphinkhi slomo08:26
slomo_re08:26
slomo_:)08:26
raphinkhow are you?08:27
raphinkJohnnyMast: I'll have a look at your package08:29
JohnnyMastjeej :)08:29
raphinkwould you have a look at mine in the meanwhile?08:29
JohnnyMastsure08:29
slomo_raphink: could be better... but it's ok ;)08:29
raphinkthis is mine : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120808:29
raphinkwhich one is yours?08:30
raphinkslomo_: ok08:30
ajmitchbddebian!!!!!111ONE you're alive!!08:30
raphinkslomo_: do you have time to have a quick look at a package I just did?08:30
raphinks/did/made/08:30
slomo_raphink: sure... everything else i could touch is broken anyway ;)08:30
JohnnyMastno man pages08:31
raphinkslomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120808:31
raphinkJohnnyMast: no bin either ;)08:31
raphinkhehe08:31
raphinkthere's only a need for manpages if there is a bin08:31
raphinkin /usr /bin or /sbin08:31
JohnnyMastwhat is the c++ source then ?08:32
slomo_raphink: will take a look :) but it's more efficient to let it reviewed only once at the same time ;)08:32
raphinkthere is binaries08:32
raphinkbut not in a folder that would require it to have manpages08:32
raphinkthe binaries are not be called directly from a console08:32
raphinkbut to be used embed in kcontrol or systemsettings08:32
raphinkthat's why there's no manpages08:32
raphink;)08:32
JohnnyMastCopyright file need some patches08:32
raphinkJohnnyMast: which copyright file?08:33
JohnnyMastdebian/copyright08:33
raphinkwhat's wrong with it?08:34
slomo_ok, i'll wait until you fixed it and review then ;P08:34
raphinkslomo_: hey08:34
raphink:08:34
raphinkso far nothing to fix ;)08:34
slomo_raphink: it's also better for you =) maybe you get my vote instantly then08:34
slomo_hm, the copyright file?08:34
raphinkwell what is there to change in it?08:35
JohnnyMastand maybe just for the looks dep on debhelper ( >= 5)08:35
HieronymusJohnnyMast: +On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU Lesser General08:35
Hieronymus+Public License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-208:35
slomo_no idea... ask JohnnyMast :) or is he looking at something else08:35
raphinkI did08:35
raphinkask him08:35
HieronymusJohnnyMast: you want GPL, not LGPL08:35
JohnnyMastNoted08:35
raphinkJohnnyMast: what is ther eto change in my debian/copyright?08:36
JohnnyMastwhat Hieronymus just sayed08:36
JohnnyMastend with On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU Lesser General08:36
JohnnyMastPublic License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-208:36
JohnnyMastor GPLG08:37
slomo_raphink: debhelper >= 5 would be nice... >> 5 is a bit strong ;)08:37
JohnnyMast*GPL or what ever08:37
raphinkok08:37
JohnnyMastyeah thats what i sayed as well08:37
slomo_copyright is fine imho08:37
JohnnyMastbut i didnt prefix rapthink so i didnt think he got it08:37
raphinkI don't get the LGPL stuff though08:38
raphinkthis soft is under GPL, not LGPL08:38
slomo_what do you want to change with copyright? ;) it's fine if i'm not too blind08:38
JohnnyMastraphink you can replace the name of the license08:39
raphinkslomo_: just the -2 for the licence maybe08:39
JohnnyMastslomo_ it was pointed to me to fix it08:39
raphinkJohnnyMast: no I'm not to replace the name fo the licence08:39
raphinkthis soft is under GPL08:39
raphinkand I'm not to change the name08:39
raphinkLGPL is something different08:39
slomo_hehe08:39
JohnnyMastyou can change the name of the license08:39
raphinkI don't think the author would be so happy to have his soft under LPGL08:39
JohnnyMastthat dir contains them08:40
raphinkif he wanted it under GPL08:40
JohnnyMastbut neways08:40
raphinkJohnnyMast: change the name of the licence where?08:40
JohnnyMastgot to fix Hieronymus his sugestion08:40
slomo_raphink: GPL is a link to GPL-2 iirc08:40
JohnnyMast*** /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-208:40
JohnnyMastto for example08:40
slomo_yes it is08:40
JohnnyMast*** /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL08:40
raphinkslomo_: yes, that I noted08:40
JohnnyMastIF you had it08:40
HieronymusJohnnyMast: ttb.1.docbook: tele tekst -> teletekst08:41
JohnnyMastbesides08:41
raphinkyop08:41
raphinkchanged to -208:41
slomo_raphink: ok, maybe add a watch file and b-d on debhelper >= 5, everything else fine without building ;)08:41
JohnnyMastthat is on the wiki as well raphink08:41
raphinkJohnnyMast: quote patches namely in changelog08:41
HieronymusJohnnyMast: web site -> website08:41
JohnnyMasthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide08:41
bddebianajmitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:41
JohnnyMastcheck the wiki template of the copyright file08:41
HieronymusJohnnyMast: +Teletekst browser is written by with help of some other people around08:41
Hieronymus+him.08:42
Hieronymusthat sentence is weird08:42
raphinkI don't know how to make watch files slomo_08:42
JohnnyMastoops forgot to paste the name in Hieronymus08:42
Hieronymusoh, you mean by $name08:42
slomo_raphink: look at my cowbell package for an example ;)08:42
raphinkok08:42
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slomo_raphink: but it's not needed... only nice to have :)08:42
raphinksure slomo_  :)08:43
raphinkslomo_: is that fine ?08:45
raphinkversion=208:45
raphinkhttp://autostart.pwsp.net/releases/autostart-(.*)\.tar\.gz debian uupdate08:45
slomo_yes08:45
raphinkok :)08:45
slomo_you can also do a more elaborated regexp in the () but it's fine ;)08:46
raphinkuploading again then08:46
slomo_the part in the () is taken as the version number08:46
raphinkwell they'll be this way08:46
raphinkok08:46
raphinkthat's how it looked so it's good08:46
raphinkuploaded again, now waiting for it to show up ;)08:47
raphinkI checked the debuild && debuild -S -sa diff test08:47
raphinkand it builds fine in my pbuilder08:47
raphink:)08:48
slomo_ok, i'm building it now on ppc ;) we'll see if it is ok :P08:48
HieronymusJohnnyMast: remove the name[xx]  in the .desktop and put a Name[nl]  in there08:49
JohnnyMastHieronymus alright08:49
HieronymusJohnnyMast: use Icon=ttb and add a newline at the end of the file08:49
JohnnyMastare you sure about the Icon thing ?08:50
raphinkslomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120908:50
HieronymusJohnnyMast: pretty sure08:51
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JohnnyMastand it would NOT corrupt the icon because it might need an extention08:52
jpatrickraphink: ping!08:52
JohnnyMastcan any one verify Hieronymus his toucht ?.08:52
JohnnyMastHieronymus sorry i dont doubt you i just want to be sure08:53
raphinkargh08:53
raphinkjpatrick: I have to leave now08:53
raphinkwhat do you want?08:53
jpatrickraphink: it's about my package: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120508:53
raphinkyep?08:53
HieronymusJohnnyMast: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath can08:53
jpatrickraphink: debian/copyright: that's how I've always done it08:53
raphinkjpatrick: oh well it's just a small detail08:54
jpatrickraphink: there is nothing in /usr/bin because it's a KControl module08:54
raphinkhmm ok08:54
jpatrickraphink: and I added the rule to generate pot file as stated in debian/changelog08:54
raphinkjpatrick: then remove debian/dires08:54
raphinkdebian/dirs08:55
jpatrickright08:55
jpatrickand I never touched the src08:55
raphinkyou don't need to state your modifications in the changelog08:55
raphinkas long as you don't patch the source or so08:55
jpatrickjust remvoed the . at the end of the short des. (as siretart said)08:55
raphinkmodifications to debian/ only have to be logged after the first official release08:56
raphinkmhm08:56
raphinkwell seems siretart found out what was wrong with the diff08:56
raphinksomething in rules08:56
raphinkask him about that08:56
jpatrickhmm08:56
raphinkbecause there's the fact that your diff is 81KB, largely modifying config.sub08:56
jpatrickwhen/where did he say that?08:57
raphinkhere a few minutes ago08:57
raphinkwell some time ago acutally08:57
raphinksiretart: are you there?08:57
jpatrickmaybe I should remove the config.sub thing in the rules08:57
raphinkjpatrick: my pb with the source is this : http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/kdmtheme-0512161255/kdmtheme_0.9.1-0ubuntu1.diff08:57
raphinksiretart seemed to think it was a dh_stuff rule in debian/rules that shouldn't be there08:58
raphinkask him08:58
raphinkI really should go now08:58
jpatrickokay cya :)08:58
raphinkbye08:59
slomo_bye08:59
LaserJockis it ok to have both a .png and .xpm in /usr/share/pixmaps?09:03
crimsunit's redundant but harmless09:04
TheMuso\sh: Thanks. I have been working on other bugs and the xdmcp-dev issue has popped up as well.09:09
\shTheMuso: no prob09:10
crimsunlet me guess: libgtk2.0-dev.09:10
TheMusoI don'09:11
TheMusoI don't really know but the same dependancy has popped up for other gtk-based apps I have been trying to fix things with.09:12
JohnnyMasthi TheMuso :)09:14
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TheMusoJohnnyMast: Hey there.09:14
JohnnyMasteverything okey ?09:14
TheMusoYes thanks09:15
TheMusoHaven't done any merges for a while as I have been busy.09:15
JohnnyMastsame here09:16
JohnnyMastim working on my own revu package atm09:16
slomo_TheMuso: the libxdmcp-dev problem should be fixed afaik... dholbach uploaded a libx11-dev which depends on it earlier today09:16
TheMusoslomo_: Yeah he told me.09:16
TheMusoWe have been working on a bug for an a11y package which is why I knwo about it.09:16
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\shslomo: too late for me..when I checked TheMusos package :)09:24
\shso i have to upload tomorrow a fixed package *grrr*09:25
slomo_raphink: you have a vote for your package :)09:27
jpatrick\sh: thanks for the kxdocker acceptance :)09:29
siretartslomo_: http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2005-December/005623.html09:32
siretartjpatrick: raphink: pong09:32
siretartwhats up?09:32
jpatricksiretart: something about my kdmtheme package09:33
slomo_siretart: hmm, can _we_ help them? do we have the knowledge? ;)09:34
siretartjpatrick: ah, the redundant config.{guess,sub} issue?09:34
crimsunomg.09:34
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jpatricksiretart: I removed those now09:34
siretartcrimsun: its really frustrating, yes :(09:36
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siretartit there wasn't that many ignorant devs around...09:37
bddebianwuss ;-)09:37
thierrysiretart : hi, I made a package I'd like to send to REVU, I just sent a message to keyring@tiber.tauware.de to get upload rights09:37
crimsunoh wow, barry's back. Assign him the desktop boogs!09:37
crimsunquick!09:37
bddebianHeya crimsun09:37
ajmitchbddebian: it's called self-preservation09:37
ajmitchcrimsun: already done09:37
crimsunajmitch: rockin'09:38
ajmitchhe's got all the remaining merge bugs too09:38
crimsunsuhweet!09:38
ajmitchplus I've got 50 or so to offload onto him09:38
siretartthierry: tell me your keyid09:38
ajmitchbddebian: you don't mind? great!09:38
\shdamn09:38
thierry12CC71FA09:38
\shwho can I change my revu password?09:38
ajmitchno objections so far, so we're set :)09:38
ajmitch\sh: now we can kick back & have a drink while barry hacks ;)09:39
siretart\sh: you have root on tiber, just change it in postgres ;)09:39
\shsiretart: gnarf09:39
ajmitchhehe09:39
siretart\sh: (hint, there is a script called /srv/revu1/scripts/alter_user.py for that)09:39
bddebianSure, why not.. :-)09:39
siretart\sh: just call it without arguments for help09:39
ajmitchit has a -p option09:40
siretartto set the password09:40
ajmitchsiretart: hey, we can start our holidays now09:40
ajmitchbarry's back!09:40
siretartajmitch: excellent. I was waiting for this day :)09:40
thierrysiretart : 12CC71FA09:41
\shsiretart: merci09:41
ajmitchsiretart: I think we need a link to the build logs page as well on the merge page :)09:42
=== \sh hugs siretarg
\shsiretart ,)09:42
siretart:)09:42
\shwell...arg is not wrong somehow :)09:42
siretartthierry: I didnt find your key in the keyserver, please upload it09:43
thierrysiretart : sending another e-mail?09:43
jpatrickthierry: upload to keyserver.ubuntu.com09:43
siretartthierry: please `gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 12CC71FA`09:44
siretartthierry: please `gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys 12CC71FA`09:44
thierrysiretart : done09:44
siretartthierry: done :)09:45
thierrysiretart : thanks!09:45
ajmitchok, I've got to go09:45
ajmitchsorry to cut my ubuntu time short today, but I've got good excuses this time ;)09:45
jpatricksiretart: reuploaded `kdmtheme' - hopefully the .diff looks better now09:46
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LaserJockis there a way to test is a patch is working? does spatch apply-all in the src directory work?09:54
siretartjpatrick: besides, who is upstream for kdmtheme? and where to download it?09:55
LaserJockby working I mean applied09:55
jpatricksiretart: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2212009:55
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jpatrickhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=121409:58
JohnnyMastlooks nice patrick10:01
jpatrickthank you :)10:01
JohnnyMastnp10:03
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JohnnyMastraphink welcome back home10:05
siretartjpatrick: what did you change in the last 2 uploads? the debdiff seems empty10:05
siretarthi Mirno10:05
jpatricksiretart: removed config.sub and config.guess10:06
jpatrickthey weren't in the src10:06
jpatrickand removed the rules in debian/rules10:07
siretartjpatrick: from what? the upstream tarball?10:08
jpatricksiretart: no10:09
jpatrickthe file were on my machine10:09
jpatrickfiles*10:09
Mirnohi siretart10:10
siretartjpatrick: err, it doesnt really matter if they are on the machines or not. Our packages are autobuilt anyway10:10
siretartjpatrick: but I see you removed that updating config.{guess,sub} in clean target. good10:10
jpatrickokay10:11
jpatrickthat's what I removed from the rules10:11
siretartboah, why is there so much traffic on revu, anyway.. :)10:13
\shi'm not doing anything...I'm listening to dholbachs talk10:13
\shhttp://umeet.uninet.edu/umeet2005/english/pres.html10:14
siretart\sh: how to hear? is it live?10:14
\shsiretart: irc :) read the page :)10:15
siretartah10:15
jpatrickmaybe: http://umeet.uninet.edu/umeet2005/english/prog.html10:15
\shcome join #linux@irc.uninet.edu10:15
\shand cheer for dholbach :) questions on #qc10:16
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JohnnyMast:/10:22
jpatrickhaven't seen Tonio in a while10:23
jpatrickno advocations for kdmtheme?10:24
thierryI got a package to upload but I always get Checksum doesn't match for /var/chroot/home/thierry/dev/build/libfxscintilla1.6_1.63-0ubuntu1.dsc10:26
thierry while all I've done is "sudo debuild && dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kSOMEKEY"10:26
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JohnnyMasttackle \sh10:32
\shbusy i am10:32
JohnnyMastyou sound like yoda :p10:32
JohnnyMasthehe10:32
jpatrick...listening... (or more exactly reading)10:32
JohnnyMastJohnnyMast here is10:33
bddebianWell take care folks, hopefully I'll see you again very soon.. :-)10:37
NafalloOH!10:38
NafalloTHAT WAS BDDEBIAN!10:38
Nafallowhere have he bean? :-)10:39
JohnnyMastyes WAS :p10:39
Nafallobeen maybe...10:39
crimsunbusy with real life stuff10:40
crimsunasked him about a month ago10:40
Nafallooh :-/10:40
Nafalloany ETA on when he will be here fulltime again? :-)10:40
crimsunnothing besides "hopefully"10:40
JohnnyMastasap10:40
jpatrickETA: very soon10:40
Nafallohmm, oki10:41
JohnnyMastany one willing to review my updates ?10:44
jpatrickJohnnyMast: I'm waiting for someone to do mine :/10:44
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JohnnyMastjpatrick well i saw nothing bad in ur s i started when you posted ur link10:45
jpatrickpost yours10:45
JohnnyMastkk10:45
jpatrickI need tow MOTUs10:45
jpatricktwo*10:45
JohnnyMasthttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=121210:45
JohnnyMastjpatrick haha same here :p10:45
jpatrickJohnnyMast: in debian/changelog :: dependentie ?10:47
JohnnyMastoops10:48
JohnnyMastwhats the correct word ?10:50
JohnnyMasti suck @ writing in english10:50
jpatrickdependency I believe10:52
NafalloDep(s) I usually write ;-)10:53
jpatrickJohnnyMast: I'm not to sure about the FSF address in copyright10:53
jpatrickI leave it out10:53
HieronymusJohnnyMast: +  * Patched ttb.desktop to be more to fit freedesktop.org standards.10:54
Hieronymus+    (01-ttb.desbtop_generalice.patch)10:54
HieronymusPatched ttb.desktop to make it conform to freedesktop.org standards.10:54
Hieronymus(01-ttb.desktop_generalice.patch)10:54
JohnnyMastjpatrick the address i have is the new address10:54
JohnnyMastHieronymus yes ? whats up ?10:55
HieronymusJohnnyMast: "to be more to fit" is incorrect or sounds weird at least10:55
JohnnyMastooh then it should be10:55
JohnnyMastto fit the  freedesktop.org standards10:56
JohnnyMastmore bugs then typo`s ?10:58
jpatricklooks okay to me10:59
JohnnyMastwell let me update the typo`s and tackle a motu10:59
JohnnyMastwhats the correct spelling of dependentie ?10:59
jpatrickdependency11:00
JohnnyMastroger !11:00
jpatrickNo my name's Patrick11:00
JohnnyMasthaha :p11:00
JohnnyMastdutch humor11:00
TreenaksJohnnyMast: you're not funny. and I'm Dutch.11:02
JohnnyMastTreenaks what else is new ?11:03
JohnnyMastniets11:03
HieronymusI don't think you're funny. and I'm Dutch11:03
Hieronymusthat's new11:03
JohnnyMastit seems some ppl dont like me11:04
JohnnyMastthere bad11:04
TreenaksJohnnyMast: please write horizontally, and using correct words11:04
JohnnyMast^^ thats what i mean11:04
Treenaksitym "that's"11:05
raphinkRiddell: did you have a look at kyamo already?11:05
Riddellraphink: no, sorry, am deep in knetworkconf hacking11:05
raphinkok11:05
raphinknp11:05
raphinkI just packaged a kcontrol module today aswell : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120911:05
raphink;)11:06
jpatrickraphink: could you take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=121411:06
raphinkdid you talk with siretart about this source issue?11:06
jpatrickraphink: yes11:06
raphinkgood11:06
jpatrickjust removed config.sub and config.guess and removed a rule11:07
raphinkgood11:07
raphinkdid siretart approve these changes?11:07
jpatrickraphink: yep11:07
jpatrickand JohnnyMast11:07
raphinkgood :)11:07
raphink:)11:08
jpatrickI have to go now11:08
JohnnyMast:)11:08
JohnnyMastits a good thing11:08
JohnnyMastbecause these files are creared after running configure11:08
JohnnyMastso its not needed in any way to be in a package11:08
raphinkok11:08
JohnnyMastlets say its absolete11:08
raphinkyes11:08
JohnnyMasti think upstream they didnt do11:09
raphinkjpatrick: just check that it builds twice though11:09
slomo_what?11:09
JohnnyMastmake distclean before packing the release11:09
slomo_you removed these files?11:09
raphinkthat removing these files doesn't prevent it from building again11:09
jpatrickraphink: I have11:09
jpatrickand run pbuilder11:09
raphinkjpatrick: good11:09
raphinkgood11:10
Kyralhey guys11:10
JohnnyMasthey Kyral11:10
KyralI love being home, get to play with my pups11:11
jpatrickslomo_: care to take a look? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=121411:11
JohnnyMastaww :)11:11
slomo_jpatrick: sure... is it another kde package? ;)11:11
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slomo_hehe, good guess :)11:11
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jpatrickslomo_: errr... yes11:11
slomo_everybody asks me to review kde packages... seems like we already have all gnome packages ;)11:12
Kyrallol11:12
KyralActually is Kubuntu-Desktop supposed to be installable now?11:12
jpatrickKyral: I think Adept & PyKDE has some things todo11:13
Kyralokay so I'm not the only one getting unmet dep things going on :D11:13
RiddellKyral: kubuntu-desktop should be installable, what's the problem?11:16
KyralRiddell: I'll try to grab it and put it in pastebin mkay?11:16
Riddellthanks11:17
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\shhey ASCIIGirl :)11:19
ASCIIGirlhihi :)11:19
Kyralas soon as the latest updates to Dapper are done11:20
slomo_jpatrick: looks fine at a first look :) now let's build it and compare tarballs ;)11:20
\shASCIIGirl: I encouraged a brasilien guy to become an ubuntu member :) "Og Maciel"11:21
JohnnyMastslomo_ slomo about your gues about having all gnome packages..... i have one for you11:21
\shASCIIGirl: http://www.ogmaciel.com/11:21
ASCIIGirllets see11:21
slomo_jpatrick: maybe add a watch file :) i for one can't find something to download on the page you list in the description :P11:22
JohnnyMast".NET / Oracle Developer By Day,11:23
JohnnyMastLinux Evangelist By Night."11:23
JohnnyMasthehe11:23
ASCIIGirlbrb11:24
dholbachgood night everybody11:28
ASCIIGirlnight dholbach :)11:28
JohnnyMastrapink: because it effects the desktop file11:28
JohnnyMastnn dholbach11:28
dholbachASCIIGirl: nice to see you here :)11:28
slomo_jpatrick: ok, you have my vote :)11:28
JohnnyMastslomo_ i have a gnome one for you11:29
slomo_JohnnyMast: perfect... show me :)11:29
JohnnyMastok :)11:29
JohnnyMasthttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=121611:29
thierryI have a problem sending a package to REVU, I always get "Checksum doesn't match for /var/chroot/home/thierry/dev/build/libfxscintilla1.6_1.63-0ubuntu1.dsc11:32
thierry"11:32
thierrythis is really frustrating since my package is ready but I can't send it11:33
slomo_JohnnyMast: hmm... correct the spelling of the patch filenames ;)11:34
JohnnyMastslomo_ oth typo`ed ?11:35
JohnnyMast*both11:35
slomo_yes11:36
slomo_and please change the desktop file... the ones without language should be english11:36
slomo_teletekst -> teletext11:36
JohnnyMastno11:36
JohnnyMastits not about teletext11:37
slomo_not?11:37
JohnnyMastthats something else then tele tekst11:37
slomo_ok, accepted :)11:37
JohnnyMastuhu11:37
slomo_whatever it is :P11:37
JohnnyMasti checked that with my local americans :p11:37
HieronymusJohnnyMast: teletekst, not tele tekst11:37
JohnnyMastHieronymus thats fixed11:38
Hieronymusslomo_: news from the tv11:38
JohnnyMastor did i leave it some where ? ieronymus11:38
HieronymusJohnnyMast: no, but you just said it11:38
slomo_JohnnyMast: maybe leave out shlibs:Depends11:39
JohnnyMastooh11:39
slomo_JohnnyMast: not needed and if there's something in there it is now all package ;)11:39
slomo_why is the setup.py patch needed btw?11:39
JohnnyMastA) everything was done in control (dep checks B) it want compatible with pbuilder11:40
JohnnyMastpbuilder installed the deps11:40
JohnnyMastbut the setup clamed it didnt11:40
slomo_hm11:41
JohnnyMastthere are build logs on revu11:41
JohnnyMastif you want to see them ?11:41
slomo_please give me a url :)11:41
slomo_<--- lazy11:41
JohnnyMastok + btw upstream knows about the patch11:41
JohnnyMasthold on let me get it11:42
JohnnyMastslomo_ http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/ttb-0512141135/ttb_0.9.4-0ubuntu1.buildlog11:42
slomo_JohnnyMast: ok, let's summarize :) correct spelling of the patch filenames ;)11:42
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JohnnyMastslomo_ i dont know the correct spelling of the new patch names :|11:43
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JohnnyMastim better in talking english then wrting (because i do for real all day long11:43
JohnnyMastazeem welcome back home11:44
slomo_JohnnyMast: 00-setup.py_depenend.patch -> 00-setup.py_dependency-fix.patch and 01-ttb.desbtop_generalice.patch -> 01-ttb.desktop_generalize.patch11:44
slomo_JohnnyMast: imho11:44
JohnnyMastslomo_ here is ur beer :)11:45
KyralRiddell: Interesting. When installing Kubuntu-Desktop with Apt-get, it works, but when giving the command to aptitude -R it doesn't11:45
slomo_JohnnyMast: i already have a beer ;) but another one can't hurt, thanks :)11:45
JohnnyMasthehe np11:46
JohnnyMastslomo_ done im gonna upload the fixes11:46
JohnnyMastuploaded ..11:47
JohnnyMastlets wait till it shows up11:47
slomo_it fails in pbuilder11:48
slomo_        It seems your Python installation is missing the 'dev'-package.11:48
slomo_        Please install it.11:48
JohnnyMastchecking ..11:48
slomo_docbook2x-man debian/ttb.1.docbook11:48
slomo_I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd11:48
slomo_please call it with --nonet or how it was called ;)11:48
JohnnyMastyeah i see it failing now on  - python-dev (>= 2.2)11:50
slomo_yes11:50
slomo_please fix it :)11:50
JohnnyMasti tought dep on  - python-dev (>= 2.2) is valid ?11:51
slomo_it will the dev files for the default python... i.e. 2.411:52
slomo_when you need 2.2 b.d. on python2.2-dev11:52
JohnnyMastand if i leave the version out and leave python-dev ?11:52
slomo_the same11:53
slomo_if you do python-dev (>= 2.2) it will just fail when there is a) no python-dev available or b) only python-dev with a version less than 2.2 is available11:53
JohnnyMastwell 2.4 is available11:54
JohnnyMast2.4.211:54
JohnnyMastubuntu 211:54
UbugtuUbuntu Bugzilla bug #2: GNU Free Documentation License is non-free Product: Ubuntu, Component: glibc, Severity: normal, Assigned to: debzilla@ubuntu.com, Status: RESOLVED, Resolution: NOTWARTY https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=211:54
slomo_sure11:54
JohnnyMastcalled python-dev11:54
JohnnyMastno version in the package name11:54
slomo_ok, what's the situation with your package?11:54
slomo_does it need only python?11:55
slomo_or a specific version?11:55
JohnnyMastyes and gtk/glade11:55
JohnnyMastno no specific version11:55
slomo_depend on python-dev and python-gtk2 etc11:55
slomo_or most probably only python, no python-dev11:55
JohnnyMastbut the old setup.py checked on >= 2.211:55
JohnnyMastso remove the () ?11:56
JohnnyMastand just depend on the virtuall ?11:56
JohnnyMastile make it only depend on python-dev11:57
slomo_if you have a version which is at least needed at this in the ()11:57
slomo_but do you really need python-dev?11:57
JohnnyMastthats what the site AND the setup.py sayed11:57
slomo_ok11:58
JohnnyMastile remove the ()`s11:58
JohnnyMastlol11:59
JohnnyMastslomo_ there is no python-dev depend in control11:59
HieronymusI have made a package. How do I upload it to REVU?12:00
JohnnyMastdput *.source.changes12:00
slomo_JohnnyMast: nice :) add it when it's needed :P (you mean b-d, right?)12:00
JohnnyMastb-d ?12:01
slomo_build-depends12:01
JohnnyMastyes yes12:01
JohnnyMasti had it before until some one sayed its not needed12:01
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