[12:45] lucasvo: didn't work, downloading kubuntu now === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:48] download complete [12:48] losts faster than yesterday [12:49] uuuufff [12:49] finally [12:49] mhz: 3 attempts to install failed with disk full, so now gonna do kubuntu instead [12:50] this is not logical :( [12:50] /var/cache/apt/archive over 500M of stuff [12:51] how big is your HD? [12:51] 1st 2 tries 1.95G /, 3rd 2.25G / [12:52] ppl on #ubuntu said 1.6G should be enuf === MrMazda goes upstairs to try new CD === mhz is now known as mhz_dinner === crimsun [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_dinner is now known as mhz === mhz is now known as mhz_nickjr === crimsun [n=crimsun@cpe-065-185-221-122.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:21] lucasvo: kubuntu installed, but it's stuck at 640x480 :-p === pitux [n=pitux@88-181-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ivan [n=ivan@194.186.210.64] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [i=ircap8b@pc-160-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@59.92.135.216] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [i=ircap8b@pc-160-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:02] I'm a linux user, but I'll have to use win a few days [04:02] is there a program to work on terminal from win? [04:03] Lord_Athur putty [04:03] connect with ssh [04:04] but I haven't got a linux server :S [04:04] is there an emulator? 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[02:16] MrMazda: if you want to install edubuntu just type: apt-get install edubuntu-desktop [02:17] MrMazda: you screen resolution is working/ [02:48] lucasvo: I had to add manually to xorg.conf the missing HorizSync and VertRefresh, then the higher resolutions worked [02:48] MrMazda: I had the same problems [02:48] MrMazda: best to do is: submit a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com [02:49] consoles randomly get error messages making them useless [02:49] bug about the bad edubuntu installs? about the defective xorg.conf? [02:52] defective xorg.conf [02:53] k [02:53] where/what name is the installation log? [02:54] lotsa gstreamer and fontconfig error messages during install on tty4 [02:56] MrMazda: /var/log/x*.log === jelkner [n=jelkner@pool-141-156-222-54.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:57] k [02:57] lucasvo@lama:~$ vi /var/log/Xorg.20.log.old [02:57] 20 is from the installer? [03:01] no [03:01] MrMazda: look at all of the Xorg logs [03:03] ogra: good morning oliver [03:03] 15:03 < djm62> lucasvo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg [03:03] MrMazda: delete all the /var/log/Xorg* [03:04] then do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [03:04] MrMazda: then you can attach the xorg.log [03:04] MrMazda: you have to do that in tty2-5 [03:05] MrMazda: and then you have to add horzsync again [03:05] lucasvo: I have to go upstairs to do all this [03:05] lucasvo: I saved the original xorg.conf [03:05] ok [03:05] MrMazda: or ssh I think :D === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-123-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] hi Yagisan [03:12] MrMazda: running kda? [03:13] G'day lucasvo [03:13] MrMazda: try apt-get install edubuntu-desktop [03:13] I don't like Gnome [03:13] MrMazda: why? [03:13] because of linus? :D [03:13] MrMazda: in edubuntu-desktop you get all the education apps [03:14] used to KDE since years ago when Gnome was awful [03:14] MrMazda: yes, I did too, I am using gnome since warty [03:14] gotta find out if enuf space left on device :-D [03:14] MrMazda: apt-get remove kde [03:14] added some stuff already, so it's pretty full [03:14] MrMazda, how much space do you have ? [03:14] o_O [03:15] gotta go upstairs to see what's left [03:15] 2.25G to start with for / [03:15] thats not enough for a default edubuntu ... [03:15] you'll need ~2.6G [03:15] I read some doc that said needs 2G [03:15] that's barely enough for normal ubuntu [03:16] 2.2G is fine for a normal ubuntu, edubuntu brings more apps [03:16] kdeedu and all the kde stuff we ship is an ugl beast ... [03:16] *ugly [03:16] apt-get remove qt [03:17] heh [03:17] MrMazda, normal ubuntu installs in 2G, but whoever wrote that never tried it. I did - you don't have any space left. [03:17] I hate the qt dual licensing :( [03:17] its gone with qt4 [03:17] ogra: it is? [03:17] lucasvo: why ? [03:17] afaik, yes [03:17] hey jelkner [03:18] Yagisan: for e.g. german post had to remove their stampit *proprietary* plugin for openoffice since it includes qt [03:18] looks like I could get some space back by removing a bunch of eastern fonts [03:19] way lotta font packages installed [03:19] MrMazda: did you clear /var/cache/apt/archives/? [03:19] got 450K back from doing that manually [03:19] yes, that might give you 2-300MB [03:19] eeek [03:19] never do that manually [03:19] ogra: good morning [03:19] use apt-get clean for that [03:19] couldn't find another way [03:19] ogra: ok [03:20] lucasvo: that's what happens when you don't read the license [03:20] that wasn't what was suggested yesterday [03:20] MrMazda, i wasnt around in the evening :) [03:20] someone said some other kind of clean [03:20] Yagisan: they are allowed to include their software with dual licensing? [03:20] MrMazda: *me* [03:20] MrMazda: I was wrong [03:20] too late now :-) [03:21] yup [03:21] wont break heavily though, dont worry ... [03:21] already added repositories and updated [03:22] gimp [03:22] mc [03:22] lucasvo: the author of qt can license it however they like. [03:22] but as a rule of thumb, if there is a tool in a linux system, never edit files manually or delete stuff, you might miss something that tool would do as well [03:22] firefox/thunderbird [03:22] I know that rule [03:22] gotta be able to find that GUI tool though [03:22] MrMazda: synaptic? [03:22] for maintaining packages ? [03:22] thats synaptic or gnome-app-install [03:23] kubuntu/kde has something similar [03:23] gnome-app-install is lame [03:23] why ? [03:23] synaptic, dpkg, apt, adept - too many different tools for packages [03:23] it only provides the most common packages [03:23] MrMazda: you forgot aptitude [03:23] gnome-app-install is far superior to synaptic on the usability side [03:23] aptitude, synaptic, dpkg, apt, adept - too many different tools for packages [03:24] they do different things :) [03:24] synaptic and aptitude are just frontends [03:24] dpkg is included into almost everything [03:24] MrMazda: I can point to at least one of those tools that doesn't work on my X less box [03:24] ... to apt [03:24] apt is a frontend to dpkg [03:24] adept is a copy of synaptic in kde [03:25] they are completely different things ... [03:25] you're making me try to learn to much - I'm a rpm user [03:25] even working on weekends ogra ;/ [03:25] Debian gives me fits [03:25] spacey_ki, not really ... [03:25] my preferred front end is aptitude [03:25] I prefer apt [03:25] screwed up tty video on every one of them [03:25] ogra, don't forget to relax a bit :P [03:26] heh, i'll try [03:26] i'm on my way out anyway, GF is ill and i have to pick up food for the animals ... else they'll starve over the weekend [03:26] ogra is in a hurry for dapper :D [03:26] nah, no hurry at all :) [03:27] ogra: Hope GF gets better soon. [03:27] we are fine in our timeframe ... [03:27] Yagisan, i'll tell her ... [03:28] she already was better (after 4 weeks of sleepless nights with crying from pain) [03:28] but somehow it started over tonight [03:28] seems like Bug 7878 resurfaced [03:28] ?? what did she catch ? [03:28] damn, thats quite serious [03:28] we have no idea [03:29] seems it hurts heavily below her right eye .... [03:29] went to hospital i assume? [03:29] the doc has no idea what that could be ... [03:29] 2nd opinion ? [03:29] now she got pulled out a tooth last week, but that seem not to have been the cause of pain ... [03:30] time for a xray [03:30] i'll arrange a computer tomography next week for here, to get some more insight ... [03:30] no hospital yet ... she first wants to try out all options without that [03:31] what is computer tomography? === ogra babelfishes [03:32] spacey_ki: most likely cat scan [03:32] I had one done for myself - big white tube [03:32] strong magnets [03:32] yeah ... [03:32] babalfish doesnt help :/ [03:32] not dangerious when you have some metal in your teeth? [03:33] nope [03:33] have some guy say "lie still" while they scan your head [03:33] not suddenly teethless [03:33] :) [03:33] and afterwards you have a 3D model of your head ... [03:33] and then they go, we *still* don't know whats wrong [03:33] that's cool, I once had to do it with my arm [03:33] its a kind of xray in slices they do ... and afterwards they build a 3D model of it [03:34] oh wait - that may only be for me [03:34] Yagisan, i suspect it might be the same for us :/ [03:34] Yagisan: it is quite common, they still don't know what's wrong with my arm [03:34] the dentist already did a normal xray... nothing suspisious ... [03:34] I still can't do any push-ups :( [03:35] at least I got a picture of my head [03:35] lol [03:35] lucasvo: RSI ?? [03:35] Yagisan: rsi? [03:35] yes, sounds like [03:35] to much comuter work :) [03:35] Repetitive Strain Injury [03:35] *computer [03:35] take more rests [03:35] or ah something else ;) [03:36] Yagisan: I don't know, I had a broken arm a 2 years ago [03:36] Yagisan: broken forever, I can't push anything more than 20kg [03:36] good thing you do computer work :P [03:37] only need to press keys [03:37] spacey_ki: I am doing headwork in school atm [03:37] headwork? [03:37] ouch, I've shredded all the ligaments on my knee before. Couldn't move my lower leg [03:37] brainwork [03:37] right [03:37] what work does your brain do [03:38] dragged myself 7 kilometers to a hospital on one leg, just to get it put in plaster [03:38] spacey_ki: math, biology, french, german, english, italian, chemistry, physics [03:38] and arts and craft [03:38] your on highschool? [03:38] spacey_ki: yes [03:38] aha [03:39] what country? germany? [03:39] spacey_ki: switzerland [03:39] ah [03:39] that figures [03:39] spacey_ki: why? [03:39] regarding the languages [03:39] aha [03:39] french, german, english, italian [03:39] :) [03:39] you need them all there [03:39] :) [03:40] not really, everybody speaks english [03:41] http://www.google.ch/ < is available even in our fourth "official" language... [03:41] rumantsch [03:41] web=rait [03:41] I think it is net = rait === Yagisan sighs === Yagisan can here the arabic gangs gathering outside === Yagisan suspects there may be another riot [03:44] Yagisan: where do you live? [03:44] where are you from then Yagisan [03:44] Sydney [03:45] I'm sure you seen parts of the riots on tv [03:45] :D [03:45] Yagisan: I don't have/want tv [03:45] but I read in the newspapers about it [03:46] lucasvo: that's good. The only thing I use my tv for is for playing my iron chef dvds [03:46] iron chef? [03:46] Yagisan: what time is it now in sydney? [03:46] lucasvo: I bet the papers are only saying white people are attacking lebanese people [03:46] :D [03:46] Yagisan, nope [03:46] almost 2am [03:47] i never watch tv [03:47] evil box ;p [03:47] exactly [03:48] iron chef is the best show I have ever seen on TV. It's from Japan. The americans made a crap copy called, Iron Chef America [03:48] here we are, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef [03:49] i've seen futurama episode about that :) [03:49] you haven't seen Iron Chef ?? [03:49] I've got 18GB of it so far ... [03:49] damm 20GB download quota === trondm_gone [i=trondm@developer.skolelinux.no] has joined #edubuntu [03:53] spacey_ki: that's the 30% iron chef episode right ? [03:53] don't remember:) [03:53] at least it was funny :) [03:53] Yagisan, never seen the orginal show [03:54] spacey_ki: where are you ? [03:54] can't run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because the tty display is too corrupted - how do I screencap the corruption? [03:54] Yagisan, netherlands [03:54] its not on tv here :) [03:55] i'm curious though, can you send me an episode?:D [03:55] lucasvo: are you really /away ? [03:56] MrMazda: how did you corrupt the tty display ? [03:56] using keypad keys [03:56] always does that [03:57] how do I screencap the corruption? [03:57] have you tried typing `clear` no quotes in a console ? (yes it is a dumb question) [03:57] Is x working at all ? [03:57] restart [03:57] instead of clear helps [03:58] X works - I'm doing what lucasvo said to report the initial configure bug [03:58] restart what? [03:58] type it in [03:58] the terminal [03:58] MrMazda: gimp has a screen capture function [03:58] gimp is X === HiveDrone [n=HiveDron@x1-6-00-10-a7-08-8e-f7.k130.webspeed.dk] has joined #edubuntu [03:59] this is tty running dpkg-reconfigure [03:59] can't type in clear or restart [03:59] just type restart and press enter [03:59] works for me [03:59] :) [03:59] even if you can't see it [04:00] MrMazda: please clarify - is this a virtual console, or x-term ? [04:01] ogra: do you have time for a question? [04:01] tty[1-6] [04:01] jelkner, sure [04:01] i installed sabayon [04:01] btw, did you already test the flight2 CD ? [04:01] no [04:01] restart worked, but then on first need for a cursor key it corrupts again spacey [04:01] i can do that monday [04:02] great [04:02] how do you want me to test it? [04:02] can't get anywhere [04:02] i'm lagging with the announcement anyway [04:02] just do an install and see if it works? [04:02] yup [04:02] ok, i'll burn it tomorrow and install on monday [04:02] there are some known issues, i'll point out in the announcement [04:02] i have two test servers to play with [04:02] MrMazda, try in an X terminal? [04:02] great :) [04:02] any i need to know before testing? [04:03] dont use different languages ... [04:03] ok [04:03] anything else? [04:03] spacey_ki: lucasvo said run in tty, so I exited the X session to run on tty [04:03] trhere is something wrong with the ubuntu locales onb install, that makes it break if you dont use en_** [04:03] you can also run it in an X terminal [04:03] anyway, if tty cannot be fixed I give up on ubuntu [04:03] and restart X after that [04:03] ok, i won't do anything with languages [04:04] the dhcpd needs a new option ... (next-server) [04:04] else the clients wont boot :/ [04:04] but speaking of languages, on our breezy boxes we are having great fun with them [04:04] this corruption has been a plague even on the failed edubuntu installs [04:04] ttys just HAVE to work [04:04] i'm sitting here at a community center where all the folks speak spanish [04:04] but i think i'll revert that change to dhcpd for ubuntu ... its evil to introduce breaking changes with minor version upgrades imho [04:04] i learned how to use the spanish keyboard [04:05] how do I screencap the corruption on a tty? [04:05] and we are all on ubuntu-es chatting [04:05] MrMazda: I have no idea why your tty isn't working. It works fine on all my headless boxes. [04:05] cool! [04:05] jelkner, we had this topinc several times... [04:05] which topic? [04:05] Yagisan: prolly ATI BS [04:05] .es lang stuff [04:05] only ATI box I have [04:05] i think you asked about 10 times about it now [04:05] MrMazda: could you try using the vesa framebuffer instead [04:05] my apologies [04:05] :) [04:05] i missed it each time ;-) [04:06] but i got it now [04:06] Yagisan: kernel line is VGA=290 because VGA=788 failed [04:06] so tell me about sabayon [04:06] btw. the german teacher in the room before me wants to use the ubuntu lab with her students [04:06] nice :) [04:06] MrMazda: well, that is a good indication of where the problem lies [04:06] i'm planning on asking you if you know some good resources for them? [04:06] ok, back to sabayon [04:07] Yagisan: same problem in all Debians, no problem in RPMs [04:07] you said you can't use if from the clients [04:07] yes [04:07] can i use if from the server to lock down client users? [04:07] Debian framebuffer is whacko [04:07] it opens a xnest window, xnest doesnt work through ssh tunnels [04:07] ok, so we should wait on that [04:07] yes? [04:07] but youcan make profiles with it directly on the server desktop [04:07] only when you create the policy you need to do it on the server itself [04:08] but if you activite it it works for everything [04:08] but what happens on the client when the user tries to change things [04:08] only the admin thingy needs to be on local box [04:08] i'm not sure that solveable at all, thats why i said i'm not sure we can include it at ubz [04:08] folks are breaking their desktops [04:08] accidentally deleting panels and stuff [04:08] not if you lock down these options [04:09] jelkner, did you try using sabayon yet? [04:09] no, i just installed it [04:09] i'm just asking a few high level questions to save time [04:09] like, "how should i try it?" [04:09] i think you should give it a try first :p [04:09] yes, play with it ... [04:10] ok, /me stops asking silly questions and goes off to try it... [04:10] jelkner, if you can't figure it out after trying just ask back. i still have to fix it up myself. good opportunity [04:10] ok [04:10] anyway i'm out for shopping now before everything closes [04:10] cya [04:10] i'm not even sure if we need the xnest stuff... its only for arranging the default desktop setup... the locking down feature doesnt use xnest [04:11] cool [04:11] first question: how to launch it? [04:11] command line only? [04:11] its in the menu :p [04:11] its in your system menu [04:11] doesn't seem to be in the menu anywhere? [04:11] "User Profile Editor" [04:11] oh, i see [04:12] i'm still not sure what this icon should represent :) [04:12] its just a golden swirl [04:13] MrMazda: a quick google doesn't anything that can grab a VGA console. Try sudo cat /dev/vcs > screendump.txt [04:14] oops, i click on "Edit" and get "Xsession: unable to launch "gnome" X session --- "gnome" not found; falling back to default session." [04:14] MrMazda: You will need to put your password in, but it should grab the screen for you [04:15] never mind [04:15] clicking ok and it started anyway [04:15] oh, in dapper it silently crashes ... [04:16] oh, yes, xnest is broken :) [04:20] MrMazda: no not really [04:22] luckily we have a totally different kernel to debian :) [04:22] including framebuffer functionallity [04:22] s/including/especially with the/ [04:22] ogra: how about a powerbutton in ldm? [04:22] lucasvo, sure :) [04:23] but i have more important tasks .. [04:23] ogra: is it working from bzr? [04:23] ?? [04:23] a powerbutton from bzr ? [04:23] ogra: no, a working powerbutton in ldm from bzr source [04:23] sure ... [04:24] ogra: how can I install it? [04:24] oh, you mean if its added in my bzr repo ? nope [04:24] ah [04:24] ogra: so there isn't any written code for now? [04:24] ogra: no one can log in to the edubuntu server [04:25]