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jdongjust would like to say great job; I'm now a KUbuntu user. Very impressed with how far KUbuntu has come since Warty :)03:29
seth_k|lappyRiddell, I have almost all the kat issues raphink pointed out done; a new package should be uploaded within the hour03:45
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HobbseeRiddell: i managed to package up kmymoney2 up, until the point of needing a gpg signature thingo for it.  it doesnt look like getting into the web of trust will be easy, if i have to meet up with someone else to do it.05:38
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, somebody else just sponsors you. I'm not in the web of trust yet either, but I've had packages put in05:44
seth_k|lappyyou just did kmymoney2 rebuild? /me guiltily stops working on the same package :P05:45
Hobbseeyesterday, yeah05:45
Hobbseei wouldnt bet on it being right or anything lol05:45
seth_k|lappyhmm, it was just a rebuild wasn't it?05:45
seth_k|lappyor did you have to tweak it05:45
Hobbseeto 0.8.1?  yeah05:45
Hobbseei'm kinda confused - i have a deb of it, and all the other file bits, but it does give an error about not finding my secret key or something...05:46
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, how are you building? With pbuilder?05:47
seth_k|lappyand you have a GPG keyring, I assume? :P05:47
Hobbseewas using debuild, following the instructions Riddell gave to me...05:48
Hobbseei have a key, and a secret key, yes05:48
seth_k|lappyok05:48
seth_k|lappyspecify your keyid with -kXXXXXXXX05:49
Hobbseewhere do i do that?05:49
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Hobbseeoh, in the debuild?  and just use that as a parameter?05:49
seth_k|lappywell, for example, I use: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kA9B891E2 once I'm ready to build source for uploading to revu05:49
Hobbseeah ok, yep05:49
seth_k|lappythe secret key-finding algorithm is a bit wonky, it doesn't find mine either unless I specify the keyID05:50
seth_k|lappyI think it's because it's not my primary UID05:50
Hobbseeok, trying that05:50
seth_k|lappyI don't think you ahve to go to all the work, though, for just a rebuild05:50
Hobbseeapt-get source kmymoney or whatever it's called. get the new version from their website. make a .orig with their tar file, copy the debian directory over, run dch -i to increment the changelog and debuild to build it05:50
Hobbseewas what i was told to do05:50
seth_k|lappyyup, that's right on05:53
seth_k|lappybut there isn't a new version of kmymoney2, is there? /me looks again05:53
crimsunerr05:53
crimsunif you ''apt-get source kmymoney'', then you can just download the new upstream tarball and ''uupdate ../new_upstream_tarball'' from the top-level of the extracted old version05:54
Hobbseean 0.8.105:54
seth_k|lappyoh, there is a point release, my bad05:54
Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: lol...you had me starting to get worried there...05:54
crimsunthat does all the renaming to orig.tar.gz and copying of debian/ for you05:55
Hobbseehehe - i'll have to remember that for next time - it's a little late now!05:55
Hobbseewoohoo!  it didnt give an error this time!06:17
Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: can you help me with this please?06:21
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, sure :)06:22
Hobbseekmymoney2-0.8.1.orig.tar.bz2    kmymoney2_0.8-6ubuntu3.dsc06:22
Hobbseekmymoney2_0.8-6ubuntu2.diff.gz  kmymoney2_0.8.orig.tar.gz06:22
Hobbseekmymoney2_0.8-6ubuntu2.dsc06:22
Hobbseei have those files, which Riddell said to upload06:22
seth_k|lappyhmm06:22
Hobbseewhy do i have 2 lots of .dsc files?06:22
seth_k|lappya lot of that is the old stuff06:22
seth_k|lappythe 0.8 branch06:22
Hobbseei'd guessed that might be the case...06:23
seth_k|lappyI don't see the built 0.8.1 stuff06:23
seth_k|lappyall i see is the orig tarball06:23
Hobbsee<Riddell> if it build successfully with debuild do a debuild -S to make the sources and upload the *orig.tar.gz, *dsc, *diff.gz to a web server and I'll take a look at it06:23
Hobbseewas the original command06:23
seth_k|lappyyeah06:23
seth_k|lappyalright, cd into your source tree06:23
seth_k|lappyand run:06:23
seth_k|lappydpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k########06:23
seth_k|lappyreplace ### with your keyid06:23
seth_k|lappythat should make orig, dsc, diff, and _source.changes06:24
seth_k|lappythen you can REVU it06:24
seth_k|lappyand I can help with that :)06:24
Hobbseejust found kmymoney2_0.8-6ubuntu3.tar.gz too06:24
seth_k|lappyyeah, that's the old one06:24
Hobbseeright, yep06:24
Hobbsee*goes and deletes all files, except the one in that original source folder*06:25
seth_k|lappyhmmm06:25
seth_k|lappyyou don't want to have the .orig IN the source folder06:25
seth_k|lappyor it'll put it in the diff06:25
Hobbseekmymoney2-0.8.1 is the source folder, i presume?06:25
seth_k|lappyrighto06:25
Hobbseethat wasnt inside the source folder - i just moved those files06:25
seth_k|lappyok :)06:25
Hobbseebugger it06:26
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Hobbseelol06:26
seth_k|lappyyou rm'd your work?06:26
Hobbseeyeah06:27
seth_k|lappyaw06:27
seth_k|lappywant to take it to query and I'll walk you through uupdate goodness?06:27
Hobbseetake it to query?  *suspects this is some form of joke, but doesnt understand it*06:28
Hobbseedefinetly, sounds good06:28
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pef_awis kmymoney taken by anoyne ? I've started yesterday to uupdate it/patch it for using pot file/rebuild against kdelibs4c2a08:09
Hobbseepef_aw: on breezy or dapper?08:13
pef_awHobbsee: dapper08:23
Hobbseei think seth_k|lappy might have been doing it...08:24
Hobbseeor it's already in there...either way - worth checking08:24
pef_awHobbsee: ok, thanks :)08:30
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Flight 2 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
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flosoftRiddel: u there?11:11
flosoftI am starting the Kubuntu torrent on my 20Gbit/s Server11:20
flosoftwow FUCK ... Downloading torrent @ 6448,9kB/s and rising!!!11:22
flosoft7067,811:23
flosoft710011:23
flosoft7213,611:23
flosoft722011:23
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flosoftok ... I am seeding now ... unlimited peers etc.11:46
jpatrickhello flosoft 11:47
flosofthey jpatrick11:47
flosoftI finally got my torrent proggy on my server runnninh11:48
flosoftso I am seeding Kubuntu11:48
flosoftunlimited up11:48
flosoftunlimited peers11:48
jpatrickcool11:48
flosoftcurrently uploading @ 162,511:49
flosoft168,111:49
flosoftwell it is rising11:49
flosoftmore than 200 now11:49
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flosoftjpatrick ... is there a torrent too?11:52
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jpatrickhi Tonio_ 11:53
jpatrickflosoft: I'm getting it via the torrent11:53
flosoftok11:53
flosoftgive me the torrent link11:53
flosofti'll add it for seeding11:53
flosoft;)11:53
jpatrickhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-2/11:53
jpatrickall there11:53
flosofti386?11:54
jpatrickamd64 and ppc as well11:54
flosoftok11:55
flosofti'll do i386 and amd6411:55
Tonio_hi jpatrick 11:55
Tonio_hi all :)11:55
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flosoftok .... i386 is downloading @ 923 and rising11:57
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flosoftare you getting the i386?11:59
jpatrickyes11:59
flosoftcuz the AMD64 for me is dead11:59
flosoftthe i386 is downloading @ 1563.5kbit/s11:59
flosoftwith your torrent client ... can you manually add peers?12:00
jpatrickno12:01
flosoftdamn12:01
flosoftotherwise u could add the server flosoft.biz12:01
jpatrickyea KTorrent is really basic12:02
flosofteheh12:02
flosoft*hehe12:02
flosoftI use azureus @ home12:02
flosoftseeding dapper @ 500kbit/s12:06
Tonio_last version isn't that basic12:07
flosoftjpatrick ... ur download going faster?12:07
Tonio_limited compared to azureus that's right, but it is recent app...12:08
flosoftktorrent?12:08
Tonio_flosoft: yep12:08
flosoftI found a perfect app for my server .... TorrentFlux12:08
flosoftit works great12:09
flosoftok seeding @ 599,0kbit/s ;)12:11
flosoftSharing: 25,2%12:11
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jpatrickoh dear where's Riddell gone....12:56
jpatrickdamn netsplit12:57
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Hobbseegone off fishing...01:00
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Riddellmorning Hobbsee 01:12
Hobbseemorning Riddell 01:12
Hobbseeweird form of morning...01:12
Hobbseehow did you want those files?01:12
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RiddellHobbsee: however you have them01:15
HobbseeRiddell: ie, via email, or upload them to a specific location?  the place where i usually host files is down...01:15
HobbseeDCC, if you really want...01:15
RiddellHobbsee: e-mail jriddell@ubuntu.com01:16
Riddellbut now that you're an elite MOTU it's a good idea to ask siretat for an account on REVU01:16
Hobbseei dont have a signed gpg key though01:17
jpatrickHobbsee: you don't need one01:17
Hobbseebut i will do, when i figure out how to lol01:17
RiddellHobbsee: doesn't matter, signing is only needed for uploading to the archives01:17
Hobbseeok, cool :)01:17
Riddelloh, and revu I guess01:17
Hobbseesending...01:18
jpatrickRiddell: I need one more MOTU to look at this: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1214 :)01:19
Hobbseecome on gmail...dont crash on me...01:21
Hobbseewhat is this thing's problem?01:26
Hobbseetesting...01:36
Riddellhello01:36
Riddellno e-mail yes01:36
Riddellyet01:36
Hobbseeyet01:38
Hobbseeyes, it's taking forever to send...01:38
Hobbseeand this is just lagging like crazy...01:38
Hobbseedarn my silly, slow ISP lol01:38
HobbseeRiddell: ok, go and check now :)01:39
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RiddellHobbsee: looks lovely Hobbsee, you may fall asleep now :)01:51
HobbseeRiddell: you wanted it compiled against breezy?01:51
Hobbseeyay!  sleep is good!01:51
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Riddellwell it's for dapper, but it's the source that counts01:52
Hobbseei think there were a couple of people already doing it for dapper01:52
Hobbseebut ok01:52
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Hobbseeooh crud, wonder what time i'm supposed to work tomorrow?01:56
Hobbsee13 hours away, cool, i'll wake up by then...01:56
Hobbseenight all!01:56
Tonio_Riddell: hi ;)02:07
Tonio_Riddell: wanna have klamav on kubuntu ?02:08
Tonio_Riddell: just needs one more YES to get uploaded ;)02:08
jpatrickTonio_: No rule to generate .pot file02:20
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jpatrickTonio: See: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide at the end for rules02:24
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=== hunger chears to the kubuntu developers for making kubuntu-desktop installable again.
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Tonio_jpat|away: for tules ?03:09
Tonio_rules ?03:09
Tonio_you mean the kdepot patch ?03:10
jpat|awayyeah03:10
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Tonio_I didn't appliued the patch on all my packages right03:10
Tonio_That's on my todo list for the WE ;)03:10
Tonio_but recently packages ones like klamav have it03:11
Tonio_any problem in the way I applied it maybe ?03:11
jpat|awayIt's there?03:11
Tonio_http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/klamav-0512151830/klamav-0.32/debian/patches/03:12
Tonio_you can check by yourself03:12
Tonio_other waiting for approval packages will be patched this WE03:12
Tonio_klibido has it also03:12
Tonio_and potentially all packages I've done those last 4 days03:12
jpat|awayah alright03:13
Tonio_where you referring to a specific you checked ?03:13
Tonio_which one did you check ?03:13
jpat|awayI didn't see them like `XGETTEXT=/usr/bin/kde-xgettext sh admin/cvs.sh extract-messages' in debian/03:14
jpat|awayrules03:15
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lathiathrm is there a known problem with koffice in breezy04:03
Riddelllathiat: not paticularly04:03
lathiathrm04:03
lathiatim getting this on kivio/kword etc04:03
lathiatkoffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kivio's desktop file. Check your installation !04:03
lathiatany ideas?04:03
lathiatits not showing up in my menu either, suppose that could be related04:03
lathiatah,w eird kbuildsycoa stuff04:09
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seth_k|lappyjiminy, revu is being weird this morning04:50
Riddellseth_k|lappy: what's it doing?04:53
seth_k|lappyRiddell, I'm uploading a changed kat package, but the way it handles which upload is "newest" was a bit funny; was causing me to attach changes to the wrong file. All sorted now though, and the new kat package has all of raphink's comments fixed :)04:54
seth_k|lappyRiddell, btw what were you wanting Hobbsee to do with kmymoney2, exactly? She was running Breezy and updating the old breezy package from upstream instead of just rebuilding Dapper's... she couldn't tell me exactly what you were wanting, though04:56
hungerseth_k|lappy: Can I get the new kat already?04:56
hungerseth_k|lappy: or is it still stuck in some upload queue?04:56
seth_k|lappyhunger, do you need i386? I'll upload my built .deb for you :)04:56
hungerseth_k|lappy: I can wait for a bit longer:-)04:56
Riddellseth_k|lappy: I was wanting dapper updated to the new release, but I see it's come in from debian just some hours ago anyway, failed to build though04:57
hungerseth_k|lappy: It won't run for me anyway (at least no kat has so far):-(04:57
hungerseth_k|lappy: If you happen to have your i386 deb somewhere accessible, then I'd test:-)04:57
seth_k|lappyhunger, let me upload04:58
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seth_k|lappyhunger, building once more to make sure I have a fresh .deb, then I'll upload05:00
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seth_k|lappyRiddell, I see. She was trying to build a Breezy package :P05:01
hungerseth_k|lappy: Thanks!05:02
hungerHmmm... my kmail suddenly keeps "rediscovering" the mails I just read as being new. Anyone seen this before?05:05
Riddellseth_k|lappy: fancy investigating if the new showimg rc1 works with dapper's libkexif?05:06
seth_k|lappysure Riddell05:06
seth_k|lappywhere do I find it05:07
Riddellseth_k|lappy: google :)05:08
Riddellhttp://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/05:08
seth_k|lappy:P05:08
seth_k|lappyi wasn't sure if it was already in debian or whatnot05:08
Riddellwell check there too, I just noticed that the current one doesn't pick up the current libkexif05:08
seth_k|lappyall right05:10
seth_k|lappyalright hunger, uploading now05:13
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Riddellhello melalcoolique 05:17
Flosofthey05:17
Riddellhi Flosoft 05:17
FlosoftRiddel:  I am currently seeding torrents ;)05:17
seth_k|lappyhunger, http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/dapper/05:18
melalcooliquehi05:18
RiddellFlosoft: you rock05:18
hungerseth_k|lappy: Downloading... thanks again for building it for me!05:18
Riddellwaa, new k3b!05:18
Riddellk3b comes out almost daily now05:19
seth_k|lappyand what happened to Mez, he died or something05:20
seth_k|lappynever comes on anymore05:20
seth_k|lappyheck, *I* have more uploads than he does this month :P05:20
Riddellnot sure05:20
seth_k|lappybtw Riddell, how do I version-tag this rc1 for maximum goodness05:20
seth_k|lappy0.9.4.99+rc1 ?05:21
Riddellseth_k|lappy: use ~05:22
Riddell9.5.5~rc105:22
Riddell~ means less05:22
seth_k|lappyyeah, that's what I use on backports trailers, makes sense05:22
Riddellbackports trailers?05:24
hungerseth_k|lappy: "Unable to start kat daemon".05:25
seth_k|lappyfor backported packages, I add a ~breezy1 trailer05:25
seth_k|lappyhunger, weird. works fine here :(05:25
hungerseth_k|lappy: Same message I got from all kat versions I ever tried:-(05:25
seth_k|lappyyou have inotify?05:25
hungerseth_k|lappy: Yeap.05:26
hungerseth_k|lappy: The wizard detects that and fails to start the kat daemon on the next page.05:26
seth_k|lappyhmm05:26
seth_k|lappyew Riddell, why is showimg a native package05:27
seth_k|lappygross05:27
hungerseth_k|lappy: deleted everything in .kde that I consider to be related to kat... just to start from a clean plate.05:27
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hungerseth_k|lappy: Starting katdaemon directly gives me this: KCrash: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'QtSQLite3Exception'/Application 'katdaemon' crashing...05:29
Flosoftdoes anyone here know torrentflux?05:31
Riddellseth_k|lappy: hmm, guess someone messed up05:32
seth_k|lappyI just pulled out debian/ and put it in the new source tree05:33
jpatrickI need Mez to get into the Ubuntu l10n UK Team05:34
hungerseth_k|lappy: Are you sure that you do not need to depend on libqt3-mt-sqlite?05:34
seth_k|lappyhmm hunger, what happens if you install that package?05:35
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hungerseth_k|lappy: No change:-(05:35
seth_k|lappyhehe05:35
seth_k|lappyprobably don't need a depend then ;)05:35
hungerseth_k|lappy: Calling katdaemon as a newly created user with an empty homedir does not change anything either.05:37
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hungerseth_k|lappy: I get a db.kat file in .kde/share/apps/kat.05:45
hungerseth_k|lappy: That is no sqlite file according to sqlite:-(05:45
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seth_k|lappyheh... yay for trying to compile on a laptop :) it hard-locked06:03
Riddelllaptops are evil like that06:06
FlosoftRiddel: seeding Dapper @ 311kbit/s06:15
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Riddellwell that's the whole of KDE universe uploaded, everyone keep an eye on the build logs to see if it all worked06:33
seth_k|lappyRiddell, the new showimg ftbfs06:34
Riddellseth_k|lappy: what's up with it?06:35
seth_k|lappythe sqllite stuff throws about 400 errors about undefined this and that, and then bombs out06:36
hungerseth_k|lappy: The folks over at #kat claim that kat 0.6.4 is not stable.06:37
seth_k|lappythanks for the info, hunger :)06:37
hungerseth_k|lappy: You should use 0.6.3 for the time being.06:37
Riddellhmm06:38
hungerseth_k|lappy: Not that this info comes a bit late to spare you the hassle;-)06:38
Riddellseth_k|lappy: nasty06:38
seth_k|lappyit's okay, I made all my changes as patches in debian/, so any new version will take the changes fine :)06:38
seth_k|lappyRiddell, yeah. I can't find a source; it's just all throughout the sqlite files06:39
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Tm_T19:39 < Tm_T> hahha, X restarted when I tried to run fullscreen GL app when fading is enabled06:41
Tm_Tlooks like even in new Xorg that is not very stable06:41
seth_k|lappyRiddell, I have a new kbiff on REVU if you'd rather have a new version instead of just a build106:54
Riddellseth_k|lappy: excellent06:55
Riddellseth_k|lappy: want some more to do?06:56
Riddellkdar, datakiosk, kboincspy, kreceipes, knetfilter all have new upstreams06:56
seth_k|lappyrighto, i'll do another right now06:57
jpatrickRiddell: the people in #kubuntu-es want to know why you were there06:57
Riddelljpatrick: I was keeping an eye on my Friend sebastian06:57
jpatrickNever saw one there...06:58
hungerseth_k|lappy: You might consider pulling kat from ubuntu: It does not work properly with the sqlite we are shipping and is known to crash with ours.07:11
seth_k|lappygood footwork, hunger07:12
seth_k|lappywhat sqlite can we ship to make it a happy kat?07:12
hungerseth_k|lappy: Not really... just hanging out in #kat.07:12
hungerseth_k|lappy: 3.2.107:12
hungerseth_k|lappy: Indeed all the crashes I see are related to sqlite complaining about misuse... and kat not handling those complains properly.07:13
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seth_k|lappywe ship 3.2.7, so kat is at fault here imo07:14
hungerseth_k|lappy: I fully agree.07:14
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mornfallRiddell: hmm, am i right thinking i won't know anything more specific about the bounty this year? (since mdz is away)08:02
Riddellmornfall: that seems to be the case, I'm really sorry about it08:02
RiddellI think he'll say yes, he's said it's a possibility and his lsat responsse was just that it needed more defined goalfs08:03
mornfallRiddell: i'll try to stick with the original schedule then, until i know... after that, it depends on whether it'll be sponsored and on my other activities (someone wants me to lend a hand on something)08:08
mornfallRiddell: (it may be set back a bit since my mobo died on me last night, so i will consider slipping further behind, or adding an intermediate alpha)08:09
mornfallRiddell: given good relations, i will try to make some decent release in time, bounty or not, but you can't expect me to go to great lengths to meet all goals08:11
Riddellmornfall: yep, fair enough08:11
Riddelllet me know what I can do to keep good relations :)08:12
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seth_k|lappykrecipes done Riddell, going on REVU now. It's quite a bit cleaner than the old one as I turned the diffs outside of debian/ into a patch :)09:09
Riddellrocking09:16
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Tm_Thmm, let's see if adept can be installed09:36
Tm_Thmm, adept installed09:40
seth_k|lappyRiddell, knetfilter done, going to REVU. Again, all patching outside of debian/ removed09:56
seth_k|lappy(well, not removed, but accounted for inside debian/)09:56
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seth_k|lappyRiddell, for kdar, I'm getting an error similar to the one I got with krusader. It can't find a file that lives in src/11:20
seth_k|lappyAny tips on how to fix, or should I just upload to REVU and let you do it for maximum efficiency?11:20
Riddellseth_k|lappy: have you changed the packaging at all from debian's?11:21
seth_k|lappyRiddell, no11:21
Riddellcurious11:22
seth_k|lappyAll I've done is uupdate and patch in the .pot stuff11:22
Riddellseth_k|lappy: well krusader didn't know how to do builddir != sourcedir11:22
seth_k|lappyyes, I looked at the patch in that e-mail you CC'd me on11:22
Riddellwhat did you do to patch in the .pot stuff?11:22
seth_k|lappybut didn't see an analogue for kdar11:22
seth_k|lappyRiddell, just dropped a patch into debian/patches, that mimics your example patch11:23
seth_k|lappyI redid from scratch though, because cvs.sh was a bit different from the one you patched for11:23
Riddellhmm, curious, well upload to revu and I'll take a look at it11:23
seth_k|lappyOkay :) let me know the patch you use to fix it so that maybe next time I won't have to bug you about the same problem11:24
seth_k|lappy5 uploads today, I'm heading out for a bit11:24
seth_k|lappyhave a good night11:24
Riddellwell done :)11:26
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Tm_Thmm, X crashed or just restarted11:49
RiddellI had that yesterday11:50
Riddellwent away and came back to a kdm login screen11:50
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Tm_Taye11:54
Tm_Tthat was second crash this night11:54

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