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Anakasharusb1-1, usb disconnect, address, 2, new low speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 4, input, usb hid v1.00, gamepad, on usb-0000:00:04.2-112:03
osh_nothing more?12:05
Anakasharthat's all it says12:05
osh_Strange. I've never seen that before.12:06
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Anakasharswapped the ports of my mouse and the gamepad, mouse still works, but dmesg still returns no /dev information12:07
osh_There really should be some more usb messages imho. Perhaps you need to load some gamepad kernel module?12:07
Anakasharif there is one.. let me check12:08
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osh_Anakashar: xpad is the xbox pad driver... nothing like that?12:10
Anakasharit's a gravis gamepad12:10
Anakasharlooks like a PSX controller12:10
osh_Anakashar: Something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravis_PC_GamePad12:11
osh_Anakashar: In there is also instructions on how to enable it.12:11
Anakasharthough i have one of those, it's not one of those12:11
Anakasharbut i'll try those instructions12:12
osh_Anakashar: Might be worth a shot. =)12:12
Anakasharlet's see what happens12:13
osh_Anakashar: let me know if it works out for you.12:14
Anakasharalright12:14
Niomixorg is using 39-45% CPU x_X12:18
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kangpehhey12:19
kangpehhow do i completely remove Gnome (but not all gtk programs)12:19
kangpehi.e., i do want to keep gaim, evolution, gnucash, etc.12:19
kangpehbut i want to remove completely basically the rest of gnome12:20
kangpehlol12:20
kangpehcuz i have KDE now12:20
kangpehand i love KDE :D12:20
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Niomii tend to favor gnome applications but use KDE as my window manager as well12:20
Niominow, i am not sure about this, so ask someone who knows better, but you _might_ be able to get rid of gnome and leave gtk.. maybe?12:21
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kangpehniomi12:22
kangpehhow do i do that12:22
kangpeho.o;;12:22
Niomii have no idea12:22
kangpehlol12:25
Anakasharosh_, nada12:26
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kangpeh=)12:27
Riddellkangpeh: please remove that12:27
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:kangpeh] : Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
kangpehRiddell:  But, he's right.12:27
kangpehKDE is pretty awesome12:27
kangpehi thought i had a slwo laptop12:27
kangpehturns out i have a fast laptop12:27
kangpehi just didnt know cuz i was using gnome for the past year12:28
kangpehlol12:28
aeon17xkangpeh: good for you :)12:28
kangpeh:D12:29
kangpehbut12:29
kangpehhow do i remove gnome12:29
kangpeho.o;12:29
kangpehbut maintain the gtk12:29
kangpehin one apt-get remove cmd12:31
kangpehlol12:31
aeon17xJust leave it there.12:33
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aeon17xThere's no easy way to remove them all >_>12:34
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jahshuahey if i dl the install .iso file, will it partition my hd for me when i run it? im on xp right now.12:35
Riddelljahshua: it will12:38
Riddelljahshua: if you are resizing the partition make sure to defragment it first12:39
Riddelljahshua: then at the installer you can just change the size in Manual Partitioning12:39
Riddellor you can tell Kubuntu to just take over the whole hard disk12:40
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jahshuaAnakashar12:44
jahshua d:\documents and settings\owner>chkdsk/f the type of file system is ntfs. cannot lock current drive. chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process. would you like to schedule this volume to be checked next time the system restarts? yes/no ??12:44
cathalhow do you stop files loading up in konqueror, instead, in the standdard file maager for KDE?12:44
jahshua[23:40]  <nesta> thats what i got12:44
jahshuashould i type yes or no12:44
seth_k|lappyjahshua, type yes12:50
seth_k|lappycathal, konqueror IS the standard KDE file manager12:51
cathalok, gotta go find what i used last time i used KDE, it been a few years. Cheers seth12:52
robotgeekhey seth_k|lappy12:55
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seth_k|lappyhiya robotgeek, I'm home for the holidays :)12:56
seth_k|lappycathal, maybe krusader?12:56
robotgeekseth_k|lappy: finally finished all my univ work, can spend some time on ubuntu now :)12:56
seth_k|lappy:D that's how I feel12:56
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seth_k|lappyit's rather pathetic when I'm excited about each one I guess :) I suppose the novelty will wear off12:57
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marchhi@all01:03
robotgeekhey march01:03
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DJ_Mer_parents either need to get control of their children, put them on leashes, or straight out stop breeding01:16
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kakeihow do i stop Kde?01:51
Anakasharkakei, i use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop01:52
elektronautalt+f2, type "kdesu /etc/init.d/kdm stop"01:52
elektronauti guess that worked01:53
elektronaut:)01:53
Anakasharheh01:53
DJ_Mer_I love you.01:54
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aeon17xWhat is the character map for KDE called?02:15
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kakeiany one pls can help me with this : i have installed Nvidia Latest drivers http://pastebin.com/467351 but when i do glxgears i get a crappy result : http://pastebin.com/46735902:16
toko123cnt-alt-backspace02:18
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elektronautkakei: what does your xorg.conf look like?02:25
kakeihttp://pastebin.com/46737202:25
elektronautdid you try enabling renderaccel?02:27
kakeihow do i do that?02:27
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elektronauthttp://pastebin.com/46737502:27
kakeiwhat's that ur ?02:28
elektronautthat's my xorg.conf .. look at the first device section02:28
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marchgn803:04
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AudioMoveanyone know anything about printers, take a look at this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104204. Rather than try explain my problem if anyone would take a look and has any more info post or reply here. thx03:38
DJ_Mer_Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a drooling retarded kid because he thought he was spitting at him.03:38
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xIlluhi.. anyone know a solution ot a CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031 problem?03:51
kakeiHi guys , i have a big trouble i was configuring my nvidia driver and i decide to Reboot now i can't get into KDE i get a Anachronistic Fail or something like that03:52
sproingieAnachronistic Fail, eh?03:58
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sproingie"Thine Hardware verily dost have a pox!"03:59
DsMare there any developers or head people around?04:00
DsMRiddell?04:00
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BlueEagledsm: kubuntu is not dead!04:01
DsMwell noone is talking04:01
sproingieit's pining for the fjords!04:01
BlueEagledsm: Well you asked a question and the lack of response indicate that there are no developers here.04:02
BlueEagledsm: If you have got any questions "the rest of us"(tm) can help you with please feel free to ask them.04:02
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DsMlol04:02
DsMoh? is that trademarked?04:02
DsManyone know how to sign up to be a mirror04:03
BlueEagledsm: It is now. :)04:03
DsM;) well i guess i'd better not use it then04:04
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AzCowboyCan anyone help with madwifi and wpasupplicant?04:17
DJ_Mer_hahahaha... my friend is brand new to linux so for kicks i made him forkbomb himself04:18
AzCowboy:-p04:19
AzCowboyThat was nice.04:19
DJ_Mer_its a welcome gift04:19
DJ_Mer_you live in arizona?04:19
AzCowboyI'm from Arizona... living in Denver now.04:19
DJ_Mer_oh04:19
DJ_Mer_im in sierra vista... *que gag and suicide*04:20
AzCowboyheh04:20
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GlassCasketWhats a forkbomb04:30
DJ_Mer_GlassCasket: a fork bomb is something called a "wabbit", a fast-reproducing prgoram isntance or command.04:30
DJ_Mer_running a forkbomb in your terminal will freeze you up so bad you can barely move.04:31
Insomniac-a program which keeps duplicating itself effectively making the system pretty much unusable04:31
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: haaa for once the american beat ya04:31
GlassCasketHaha04:31
Insomniac-just woke up04:31
Insomniac-;)04:31
Insomniac-haven't even finished my coffee yet04:31
DJ_Mer_he is the most pissed person i've seen right now though... hes yelling at me quite a bit04:32
DJ_Mer_cos he was running ubuntu in VMware, which has now totally frozen up on his winblows computer04:32
Insomniac-lol04:32
xIlluanyone know if its possible to run a pcmcia card even if under lspci it says that CardBus is an unknown device?:)04:33
Insomniac-depends on whether your cardbus device is supported04:33
xIlluwell.. it does say PCMCIA found on boot.. and it loads the cardmgr .. if that means anything04:34
Insomniac-the pcmcia initscript starts the pcmcia tools which should have the driver include iirc04:35
Insomniac-it's been a while since i messed with pcmcia04:35
Insomniac-you can't mount/use the device?04:36
Insomniac-s/include/included/04:36
xIllujust a sec let me load linux again..04:37
Insomniac-what kind of device is it?04:37
xIlluits a CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments device04:37
Insomniac-that's the manufacturer... what *kind* of device is it? network card, modem, etc?04:38
xIlluwell that is the PCMCIA slot.. for the wlan network card04:39
Insomniac-and how is it not working? you can't assign an ip to the wlan interface?04:39
xIlluwell.. when i put the wlan card in.. and do iwconfig it says "no wireless extensions"04:40
xIlluand when i do lspci i find this "error" CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 803104:40
Insomniac-run dmesg after plugging in the device, do you see anything interesting being detected or failing?04:41
xIlluok sec let me try04:41
xIlluPCMCIA: socket f7985c2c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power04:42
ClayGanythign similar to active sync for nix?04:43
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Insomniac-xIllu: that's the only thing?04:45
xIlluyes.. do you know a command that shows what kernel is doing ? a friend of mine told me about it but i forgot what command that was04:46
xIlluthat command showed some IRQ 10 error when we pluged the card in..04:47
Insomniac-that would be dmesg04:47
xIlluhmm it was a command that continued to display messages while you were doing something... this "dmesg" just displays a list and then stops..04:48
Insomniac-tail -f /var/log/syslog?04:48
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xIlluoh yea that was the command :)04:49
xIllubut it didnt do anything special when i plugged the card in.. just displayed the message "PCMCIA: socket f7985c2c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power" when plugged out04:50
Insomniac-hm04:50
xIlluups pasted the massage twice in the last msg :)04:50
Insomniac-i don't have any wlan equiptment myself but i suggest you google for linux + the device and see whether it's supported, whether you need to compile a driver, etc04:51
Insomniac-s/equiptment/equipment/04:51
xIlluyeah did that and.. found out that texas instruments didnt release any drivers for linux for the cardbus i use..04:52
xIlluthe only was is to use windows drivers.. but they r encrypted or something and the guy who made the drivers cant release the decryptor for it04:52
Insomniac-no 3rd party drivers?04:52
jahshuahttp://www.xchat.org/download/  which one of these could be used with kubuntu ?04:52
xIlluInsomniac-: should i try to look for the CardBus drivers or for the wlan card drivers?04:53
Insomniac-wlan card04:53
Insomniac-i doubt the cardbus itself isn't supported04:53
xIlluoh i found some yes.. but its sooo complicated to install that.. im a total noob in linux :) hehe04:53
Insomniac-no drivers in apt-cache search wlan?04:54
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xIllui dont know .. let me try that..04:55
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xIlluhow do i download the update with that command?04:57
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Insomniac-what update? do you want to install a package or update the repository index?04:58
xIlluupdate the repository index..04:59
Insomniac-apt-get update04:59
xIlluheh ok im in as a root.. and it tells me E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock -open (13 Promission denied)05:00
Insomniac-running some apt-frontend at the same time?05:01
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luluroothow long does apt keep stuff in /var/cache/apt/archive?05:01
Insomniac-until you delete it afaik05:01
lulurootwon't adept do it automatically?05:01
xIlluInsomniac-: i just started apt-cache search pcmcia before the apt-get update command.. but it finished searching long time ago05:02
seth_k|lappyjust use sudo apt-get autoclean05:02
Insomniac-luluroot: i'm not sure but i don't think so05:02
xIlluok it said Done on package list and dependacy tree05:03
jahshuahttp://www.xchat.org/download/  which one of these could be used with kubuntu ?05:03
Insomniac-xIllu: lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock05:03
Insomniac-and see which program has that file in use05:04
lulurootapt-get autoclean removed nothing seth_k|lappy o_O05:04
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xIllulsof: WARMNING can't stat() xfs file system /dev/.static/dev .. well it wasnt a ERROR :)05:05
xIllui did a sudo apt-get update .. that worked05:06
Insomniac-lsof might need to run as root to properly list open files05:06
xIlluok i guess it updated the repository index now..05:06
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Insomniac-appears so05:07
xIlluwhat do i do now? use search pcmcia?05:07
Insomniac-see if there is a driver for your card in there05:09
Insomniac-apt-cache search wlan05:09
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xIlluit just found drivers for a prism2 cards.. mine is atheos chipset05:10
Insomniac-you might be stuck with having to download and compile a driver in this case05:10
xIlluohh hmm..05:11
xIllui did find some drivers for the card i use.. but im not sure how i compile it now to work as it should.. the readme says to do ./Configure first05:13
xIlluso i do.. and then asks me for a path..05:13
Insomniac-read the documentation that came with it05:13
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Insomniac-usually installs are mostly ./configure && make && make install, but that's not always the case05:14
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KeithWeissharshould i download the kubuntu cd if i already have the regular ubuntu cd05:15
xIlluhow do i find out where kernel is ?05:15
Insomniac-KeithWeisshar: you could just install the kde packages on ubuntu05:16
KeithWeissharwhy is there a separate kubuntu cd when there is already a ubuntu cd and the kde can be downloaded05:16
xIlluoh it tells me i need the kernel source in /usr/src/linux .. how do i download it? or is somewhere on the kubuntu cd already?05:16
Insomniac-KeithWeisshar: probably for people without an internet connection05:17
Insomniac-xIllu: you can apt-get that kernel source05:17
KeithWeisshardoes kubuntu allow installation of ubuntu05:17
xIlluty05:17
Insomniac-KeithWeisshar: probably05:17
Insomniac-i'm not sure but there is likely a gnome package as well05:18
KeithWeisshardoes kubuntu only include kde05:18
KeithWeisshardoes the kubuntu cd only include the kde packages05:19
Insomniac-yeah i think so05:19
Insomniac-no gnome on my system in any case05:19
xIlluhow do i download something with apt-get ?05:20
xIlluoh with install i guess05:20
Insomniac-apt-get install <name>05:20
xIlluoh theres a source command also.. i think i need that for the source of the kernel right?05:21
KeithWeissharis there any way to pre-order the dapper cd05:21
xIllui did sudo apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12 .. hope thats the right one :)05:22
KeithWeissharfor april release05:22
Insomniac-there are linux-source-<version> packages05:22
Insomniac-you can use install to install those i suppose05:22
KeithWeissharis there any way to preorder dapper through shipit05:22
robitailleKeithWeisshar,  no05:23
robitailleshipit is still only shipping Breezy05:23
KeithWeisshardoes shipit cd take 4-6 weeks to arrive05:24
KeithWeisshardoes it actually take 4 to 6 weeks to get the cd after ordering05:25
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robitailleKeithWeisshar,  it's very variable.  For Breezy, I got my CDs maybe 6 weeks after asking for then.  For Warty, it was probably similar. For Hoary, it took me 4-5 months to get them.05:29
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robitailleFor Breezy  a few weeks before the release they shopped allowing requests for Hoary's CDs and started accepting requests for Breezy; and they started shipping shortly after the release.  If they do the same this time around, you will be able to ask for Dapper CDs sometime in March.05:30
robitailles/shopped/stopped05:31
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xIlluany ideas where i can look for the drivers? or just google them?05:38
HobbseexIllu: yeah, google05:38
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McScrufflo05:44
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canenhello all05:48
Hobbseehi05:51
canensup?05:52
canenjust installed kubuntu and wanted to say hey05:52
McScruffits a good distro (i came back to it) but has 1 or 2 problems05:53
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canenyeah05:53
canenjust trying to get by favourite apps installed05:53
canenmplayer is done so i am happy for the night05:54
McScrufftbh if zenwalk had better kde support i would use that05:54
McScruffxfce isnt my thing05:55
McScruffthis sync issue is REALLY getting to me!!!05:56
McScruffcan someone open firefox (who has flash installed) and goto video.google.com and choose a vid and see if they can get it in sync05:58
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McScruffby playing a video on google?06:00
McScruffor just tell me a solution06:00
McScruff:P06:00
Hobbseevideos seem to play...06:00
McScruffbut in sync?06:00
McScruffmine are a few seconds out06:01
McScruffand it works on other distros fine06:01
Hobbseeoh....you mean sync with the sound and the picture?06:01
McScruffyea06:01
Hobbseemy flash never seems to have sound at all...06:01
McScrufflol, thats not good06:01
Hobbseei've got no idea why, havent really bothered to figure it out06:02
McScruffprob coz another app is using it06:02
McScruffkde might be "blocking" the rest out06:03
xIlluhow do i tell linux that i REALLY am root user.. for every file i have to do sudo <command>.. and whan i use Kate or qconf i cant save the file.. says promission denined06:03
Hobbsee!root06:04
ubotusomebody said root was rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:04
HobbseexIllu: use kdesu <appname>06:04
xIlluthe problem is.. im trying to install these wlan drivers.. and i have to make a new kernel .. and make a .conf file first.. so it opend a qconf.. but.. doing kdesu qconf says command qconf not found06:06
McScruff"sudo kwrite" always works for me06:06
xIlluthis qconf file opned itself autom. when i did make xconf in the kernel source dir06:06
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douglasI recently did an apt-get update and dist-upgrade and it seems to have broken my mp3 playback with the xine engine, and a few other things are not right as well?06:10
Slyder0244i'm using apollon with the plugins for ares, openft, gnutella, and fastrack but the only plugin that's online is fastrack the rest just say connecting....06:13
Slyder0244anyone have any ideas why the others aren't connecting06:13
Insomniac-maybe they need a recent list of peers to connect to06:13
Insomniac-could be the ones that come with the program are outdated06:13
Insomniac-no donkey support in apollon?06:15
Slyder0244so how would i go about checking that to see if they are recent06:15
Insomniac-poke around the programs configuration06:16
Insomniac-try substituting the ip's it has with recent ones you find through google06:16
xIllulet me see if i got this right.. to make my own drivers i first.. get the kernel source.. un"tar" it.. make a .conf file.. then go to the drivers location.. and do make?06:17
Insomniac-something like that06:17
Insomniac-doesn't the driver come with instructions on how to install it?06:17
xIlluyeah thats what it said.. more or less.. i did make.. and it did bunch of stuff.. what do i do after that?06:18
Insomniac-well usually drivers come in the form of modules06:19
Insomniac-so something like make modules;make modules_install06:19
xIllui tried make all in the driver dir.. and after saying few YES NO's.. i get this error "cat: /proc/kysm: No suck file or directory".. this error came like.. 20 times then it stopped heh06:21
xIlluups... "no such file or direcotry" hehe.. not "suck":)06:21
Insomniac-make all sounds like overkill06:22
Insomniac-if you have the source for the kernel that is running all you need to do is compile the module06:22
Insomniac-try this in the kernel source directory06:23
Insomniac-make clean && make modules && make modules_install06:24
xIlluoki06:24
Insomniac-not sure about that last one, doing this from memory06:24
Insomniac-haven't compiled a kernel in several years06:24
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xIlluahh this stupid promission denied again.. even with sudo06:25
McScruffsync problem fixed06:25
Insomniac-xIllu: do sudo -i for a root shell06:26
Insomniac-the && might screw up with sudo06:26
xIlluok that put me in root but move to a different dir.. a strange one.. i dunno how to get to where the kernel is now :).. theres no /usr anywhere in sight :)06:28
Insomniac-just cd /usr06:28
xIllulol ook :) that was stupid :D06:29
xIlluok its compling now :)06:30
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Aaron_Sso can I tyoe a comand in the console to upgrade to KDE 3.5?06:36
DJ_Mer_I have cocaine, I have cocaine... I have cocaine and im cooler than you!06:38
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seth_k|lappyAaron_S, see /topic06:41
Aaron_Stinyurl link?06:41
seth_k|lappyyessir06:44
seth_k|lappyyou'll want to add that repository, and then you can upgrade06:45
Aaron_Sthe deb in the repository?06:46
Aaron_Smeh I will do this later Thanks Seth anyways06:47
seth_k|lappyopen a terminal06:47
seth_k|lappyoh06:47
seth_k|lappyalright ^_^06:47
Aaron_Swate nm them :P06:47
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Aaron_Sits open06:47
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seth_k|lappyok06:48
seth_k|lappytype:06:48
seth_k|lappykdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:49
seth_k|lappy(copy and paste to avoid errors)06:49
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Aaron_Sok06:49
seth_k|lappyit'll ask for your password06:49
seth_k|lappyand then a text editor will open06:49
Aaron_Syep06:49
seth_k|lappytake that whole line (deb http://kubuntu.org.......) and paste it as the last line in the file06:49
seth_k|lappythen save06:49
seth_k|lappynext, copy and paste those two commands on the tinyurl page, one command at a time, and run them06:50
seth_k|lappyfinally, run the command:06:50
seth_k|lappysudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade06:50
seth_k|lappythen you will have KDE 3.5 :)06:50
jobezone0Aaron_S: never used a deb distro?06:50
Aaron_Sno06:50
Aaron_Sfirst time with linux realy06:51
jobezone0:)06:51
jobezone0well, if you need help with KDE, or something, come to me, i'm a guru on it.06:51
Aaron_Sok thanks I will keep that in mind06:51
jobezone0and I do know who you are, Aaron Seigo :)06:52
Aaron_SSeth the two commands in the console06:52
jobezone0"i'm a guru on it" -> joke06:52
Aaron_Sand no I and not that guy06:52
seth_k|lappyhaha, aaron wishes he were aseigo06:52
seth_k|lappyAaron_S, you ran the two commands?06:53
Aaron_SIm asking in the console06:53
jobezone0well, this just might be his other persona. He thinks he can fool us when he puts those glasses, but not me.06:54
seth_k|lappyAaron_S, yes, in the console06:54
seth_k|lappyone at a time06:54
Aaron_Sthe deb command is saying the deb command is not found >_<06:55
jobezone0YOu sure you added this line?->                                        deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main06:56
jobezone0to the /etc/apt/sources.list file?06:57
Aaron_Syes06:57
jobezone0and nothing else?06:57
jobezone0so now you should run the command seth_k|lappy gave you.06:57
jobezone0sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade06:58
seth_k|lappywait, he hasn't added the apt-key yet06:58
jobezone0ahh, sorry06:58
seth_k|lappyAaron_S, the two commands I'm talking about are:06:58
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seth_k|lappy wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg06:58
seth_k|lappy sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg06:58
seth_k|lappyrun those, in order06:58
seth_k|lappyone at a time :)06:58
seth_k|lappyin console06:58
Aaron_Sah06:58
Aaron_Sok06:58
Aaron_SI was doing wget and dep :r06:59
Aaron_Sthanks Seth and Jobezone06:59
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xIlluInsomniac-: tnx for the help.. but ill just give up lol.. no matter what i do always the same error :)07:04
Insomniac-don't forget you need to actually load the module after installing it07:05
xIlluwhich? i cant even make the drivers.. it always says "re-run make config and disable CardBus support".. i did that but always the same07:06
Insomniac-disable cardbus? heh07:06
xIlluyeah thats what it says when i do make.. or make install.. or make all :)07:06
Insomniac-weird a pcmcia driver tells you to disable cardbus07:06
xIlluheh yeah07:06
Insomniac-i'm out of ideas07:07
xIllufull message is: CardBus support requires kernel PCI bus support! To fix, re-run 'make config' and siable cardbus support." :)07:07
Insomniac-ah07:08
Insomniac-enable pci support07:08
xIlluhow do i do that?07:09
xIllukernel source config?07:09
Insomniac-might be easier to use ubuntu's kernel config but i don't know where to find that one07:09
Insomniac-try this: make menuconfig07:09
Insomniac-it's a gui to create a kernel config file07:09
xIlluok it started07:11
Insomniac-oh wait07:11
Insomniac-the kernel config is in /boot07:11
xIlluPCI support is selected in it already07:11
Insomniac-hmm07:12
Insomniac-try copying ubuntu's kernel config from boot07:12
Insomniac-and renaming to the filename make expects07:12
Insomniac-then try building the module again07:12
xIlluwhere is that file? in /boot?07:15
Insomniac-yep07:15
Insomniac-/boot/config-<version>07:15
xIlluah ok07:15
xIlluwhat is a .dsc file?07:20
Insomniac-dunno07:20
Insomniac-try file07:21
Insomniac-file <filename>07:21
xIlluPGP armored data singed message :)07:22
seth_k|lappy.dsc files describe the changes made in a debian package07:23
seth_k|lappyand give the md5sums of the orig.tar.gz and diff.gz07:23
seth_k|lappyamong other things07:23
xIlluheh ill go to bed .. already 7:30 am.. been playing with this for hours now :).. tnx 4 the help!.. gonna continue when i get up again :)07:23
seth_k|lappy(it's not a full changelog, just a "check" file if you will)07:23
xIlluoh.. nice07:23
Insomniac-if you want to see what kind of file some unknown file is, try file, or open it in an editor07:25
Insomniac-don't use cat or the like, those could exploit your terminal by abusing terminal control characters07:25
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DJ_Mer_i just trashed mysl bad.07:36
DJ_Mer_Insomniac-: my hed feels about to pop07:38
Insomniac-sit back and relax07:38
DJ_Mer_uh-huh07:38
DJ_Mer_baad cocaine07:40
Insomniac-hmm i need to shave07:42
DJ_Mer_legs?07:44
Insomniac-hehe07:45
_zvoddis there a command to save text output to a file?07:47
Insomniac->07:47
Insomniac-echo blah > file07:47
_zvoddhow boat if a wanted to save the output of grep to a file?07:48
Insomniac-grep blah file > outputfile07:48
_zvoddgrep ./foo [0-9]  > ./filteredfoo07:49
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_zvoddsoo it works like |07:49
Insomniac-yep07:49
Insomniac-you can also use >> to append07:49
Insomniac-instead of overwrite/create07:50
Insomniac-also07:50
Insomniac-you can omit ./07:50
_zvoddi c07:50
Insomniac-bash has nice manpages on scripting stuff07:50
Insomniac-you can do pretty powerful things with simple pipelines and a little scripting07:51
_zvoddhow can you get a list of avilable man pages, i only know  man command07:51
Insomniac-take a look in /usr/share/man07:52
Insomniac-find /use/share/man -type f07:52
_zvoddare there man pages that are't just a descryption of a command07:52
Insomniac-some manpages describe config file formats07:53
_zvoddi can't figure out how to specify a user with chmod07:53
Insomniac-man chmod :)07:53
seth_k|lappy_zvodd, to change ownership of a file, you use chown, not chmod07:54
Insomniac-right07:54
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_zvoddhmmmm07:54
_zvoddso i can't just give a user write permission to a file, with out changing the files ownership07:55
_zvodd?07:56
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Insomniac-no07:57
Insomniac-you could give every user write permission though07:57
Insomniac-but that might not be what you want07:57
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BigKahunahow to enable thumb nail view for PDF and Text docs?07:57
Insomniac-_zvodd: unix permissions work with user and group ownership07:58
BigKahunaviewing multiple pdf files in a folder, I want to see the first page of each PDF file as opposed to the PDF icon.07:58
Insomniac-_zvodd: a user needs to either own the file and have write permissions, be in the group that owns the file and have write permissions, or the file needs to be world-writable07:59
Insomniac-BigKahuna: set konqueror to icon view iirc07:59
Insomniac-and enable thumbnails if not enabled08:00
xIlluhow do you delete a dir in linux?08:00
Insomniac-rm -rf <dir>08:00
xIlluty08:00
Insomniac-careful with rm -rf it'll delete anything so don't make typo's :)08:00
_zvoddso maybe i should make a new group and put the users that i want to have permission, into the new group. Then how do i change the group that the file belongs to?08:00
Insomniac-_zvodd: with chown08:01
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xIlluheh ok08:01
_zvoddoh ok08:01
Insomniac-_zvodd: chown user.group <filename>08:02
Insomniac-(or dir)08:02
BigKahunaInsomniac-, How do I do that exactly? I found "Previews & Metadata" under settings configure...08:03
BigKahunais that what I'm looking for?08:03
Insomniac-that sounds about right08:04
_zvoddcould i make my system completly insecure by chmod -R a+rwxX /08:04
Insomniac-yes08:04
_zvoddseems like a good idea08:04
Insomniac-only if you like pain08:04
_zvoddlol08:05
_zvoddi have this redhat box  wich i got from some company that was liquidated, i want to be able to start it in single user mode, but i can't add any perameters to LILO excepte "linux-qc" e.g "linux-qc init=/bin/bash" or "linux-qc single"08:09
_zvoddne body have ne ideas?08:10
Insomniac-why not erase the disk and install something usable?08:10
Slyder0244anyone have any experience with ipods under kubuntu08:11
_zvoddits a wierd box, its the sive of 3 dvd cases stacked ontop of each other and it only has a laptop HDD(5GB), the box is rivited08:11
Insomniac-i don't but i'm hearing good things about ipods and amarok08:12
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Slyder0244yea amarok isn't finding it and i don't see it in /media/ or /dev/ so i can't mount it08:12
_zvoddso i am not sure if the mobo would be compatabel on nehting else08:12
Insomniac-Slyder0244: nothing on the ubuntu forums?08:13
Slyder0244i did a quick search but the people on there seem to be able to at least see theirs they just needed help mounting08:13
Slyder0244but i'm gonna keep searching just thought i'd ask in here real quick to see if anyone had experience with it08:13
jobezone0Slyder0244: Try loggin out of KDE, then log back in,08:15
Slyder0244sure it's worth a try just ctrl+alt+backspace right08:16
Insomniac-what kind of windows solution is that ;)08:16
jobezone0Slyder0244: I've had problems in kde 3.4 with sometimes not being able to read audiocd's.08:16
Slyder0244it's exactly a windows solution lol08:16
jobezone0Insomniac-: well, against bugs all weapons are valid!08:16
Slyder0244k brb cause i'm sure i can find some more problems lol08:16
_zvodddoes ne one know where the defualt kde ksplash themes are stored?08:23
_zvodduser one are stored ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/08:24
Insomniac-locate ksplash08:25
Insomniac-insomniac@dreamwalk:~$ locate ksplash|grep Themes|head -n 108:27
Insomniac-/usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes08:27
BigKahunahow to open .chm files? Do I need an ebook reader?08:27
Insomniac-chm files are compressed html files08:27
Insomniac-not sure what you could use to view one08:27
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Insomniac-any luck Slyder0244 ?08:29
Slyder0244nope08:30
Slyder0244but here's another problem maybe you might have some insight on08:30
Slyder0244whenever i use programs like xchat, firestarter, and firefox if i switch to an empty desktop they crash08:31
Slyder0244but in gtk styles if i switch from use my kde style to use qt then they don't08:31
Insomniac-using kde 3.5?08:31
Slyder0244only problem i have with that is every time i reboot it defaults back to use my kde style and then i have to change it everytime before i open those apps08:31
Slyder0244yep 3.508:31
Insomniac-which version of qt are you using?08:32
Slyder02443.3.408:32
Insomniac-hmm08:33
Insomniac-there's a nasty bug in qt 3.3.4 but i don't think it's related to this08:33
Slyder0244yea i couldn't find any info on this problem anywhere08:34
Slyder0244although i just figured out the other day that if i switch gtk style to qt then they don't crash but this has been happening for awhile now08:34
Insomniac-best advice i can give you is avoid major kde releases08:35
Slyder0244it just took me awhile to realize what was causing the crashes cause at first i didn't know why these apps were just disapearing on me at random times08:35
Slyder0244yea first thing i did when i installed kubuntu was upgrade to 3.508:35
Insomniac-i'm only having minor problems with 3.4.3 here08:35
Insomniac-such as a read only kicker menu08:36
Slyder0244i'm wondering if kubuntu isn't recognizing my usb ports because i couldn't get it to recognize my camera the other day either08:36
Insomniac-but i can live without a menu08:36
Insomniac-any weird things showing up in dmesg?08:37
Insomniac-when you plug it in08:37
Slyder0244i tried running dmesg but i can't tell what any of the stuff means heh08:38
Slyder0244just looks like everything it spits out is refering to my eth0 card08:39
Insomniac-hmm08:41
Insomniac-usually usb is quite verbose08:41
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Slyder0244yes well me and my hardware are always the exception lol08:42
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by kangpeh at Sat Dec 17 00:27:37 2005
(Hobbsee/#kubuntu) no, yes, that's right10:41
(Hobbsee/#kubuntu) i have no clue sorry..10:41
(burepe/#kubuntu) _zvodd, are you there? what step are you at?10:41
([Surge] /#kubuntu) Hehe :)10:42
(_zvodd/#kubuntu) i copy the text from the second link into my sources.list , still the same problem10:42
(Hobbsee_away/#kubuntu) got confused as to what xine was10:42
Hobbsee_away_zvodd: then "sudo apt-get update"10:42
Hobbsee_awaythen "sudo apt-get upgrade"10:42
_zvoddsays Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 10:43
_zvoddi really hope that that 1.0.0.0 is not supost to be an IP address.10:43
[Surge] I've done this before in MDK - strange.10:44
burepehuh10:45
_zvoddpretty much now it is telling me the connection timed out10:45
burepeweird, you got me10:45
burepeWhat did you do on the second link?10:45
_zvoddthis eems to be a networking problem, but i can use the internet fine10:46
burepeping www.gmail.com10:46
burepereally10:46
_zvoddwell i am using irc, that kinda demonstraights that every layer is working10:46
burepeif you can use the net you should be able to get the repos to work10:46
_zvoddi know, it is really freakin wierd!10:46
burepepaste your sources.list in http://kubuntu.pastebin.com10:47
_zvoddbecause i can even connect to the repos via http10:47
burepedid you delete the repos that were in the sources.list before you added the out put from the second link (source-o-matic)?10:48
_zvoddhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46762610:48
Hobbsee_awayyou might want to check if the breezy repos are up at all burepe10:49
_zvoddi've not had ne trouble httping to them10:49
burepewhat do you mean? my repos10:49
Hobbsee_awayburepe: yes10:49
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burepeno problem10:50
Hobbsee_awayhmm10:50
burepethey work10:50
burepe_zvodd,  did you paste the sources.list?10:50
jobezone0everybody, install the yakuake package (from Universe, I think), it's pretty nice and handy.10:51
_zvoddyeh10:52
_zvoddhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46762910:52
burepe_zvodd, what you pasted is not from source-o-matic?10:52
burepeit would say source o matic on the top10:53
burepehere10:53
_zvoddok liook at this one10:53
_zvoddhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46762910:53
burepeok10:54
burepedid you save it10:54
_zvoddyeh10:54
burepeyou posted 2 different ones10:54
burepewhich is in your sources.list now10:54
burepe?10:54
burepethe last one ?10:54
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burepeif the one from source o matic is saved in your sources.list, open adept and push the "fetch updates" button10:56
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burepe or in the command line $sudo apt-get update10:57
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burepe!skype10:59
ubotu[skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl10:59
zvodd_!php10:59
ubotuhmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP10:59
[Surge] buga: That win32 package on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats installed on my system with some odd user and group names10:59
[Surge] I hardly think win32 codecs should belong to the postfix group :)11:00
[Surge] I meant burepe11:00
burepeha11:00
burepethats what I thought11:00
burepeyeah weird11:00
burepeI am bad with users and groups and all that stuff11:00
burepedon't really know how it all works11:00
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[Surge] It's pretty simple11:01
burepeI was messing around with my network and I got so confused by that11:01
burepehow so11:01
[Surge] Well a file can belong to a user but also has "group" and "other" permissions on it.11:02
[Surge] So there are three sets of permissions on every file.11:02
burepeok11:02
burepeyeah11:02
burepei got that11:02
burepebut the groups11:02
burepedo I make groups11:02
[Surge] Well the groups are just collections of users11:02
[Surge] Yes11:02
burepein my network thing there were tons of group names11:02
burepehow are thoes collections made?11:03
[Surge] The good old way with groupadd or with a Kuser11:03
burepeok11:03
burepeso you can add one use to as many groups as you like?11:03
[Surge] Yes11:03
burepeand can you make the group names?11:04
[Surge] You can use usermod to do that or kuser11:04
[Surge] Yes of course :)11:04
burepeso did you change the permissions on the codecs? can you use them now?11:04
[Surge] No that wasn't the problem but it was one of the problems :)11:05
burepewhy when I was doing my network it says allow groups and there are all these groups, like root and ...11:05
[Surge] Hmmm ... not sure what you were seeing11:05
burepeme too11:06
burepehey where do usb sticks mount?11:06
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[Surge] buga: /dev/sda*11:07
[Surge] Arg : burepe11:07
burepeI was in /media  and there was two files usbdisk and sdb111:07
burepethey had the same content11:08
[Surge] Oh sorry - I'm thinking of the device name11:08
burepelike usbdisk whas mounted to sdb111:08
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burepebut thats the thing what is the device and what is the correct mount point?11:08
[Surge] - /media/sda*11:09
burepeI copied some files and I tried to umount but it didnt work and I thought since it was plug and play i could just pull it out11:09
[Surge] At least that is where KDE likes to mount it but you can mount it manually where ever you like11:09
burepebut the files were messed when i tried to listen to them on my pda11:09
burepeso the device is /media/sdb1?11:10
burepeand the mount point is /media/usbdisk?11:10
[Surge] No the device is typically /dev/sd**11:11
zvodd_apt worked for just long enough for me to install php, and now i can't install mysql11:11
[Surge] The mount point is where ever you want it to be11:11
burepebut it auto mounts11:11
burepeand I had two folder with the same content in /media11:11
[Surge] Right11:12
[Surge] Well once is probably just a symbolic link11:12
burepe      zvodd_ I am out of ideas11:12
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burepeok so the real file is usbdisk11:12
burepeso I should use thoes files?11:12
[Surge] burepe: Like my cdrom :11:12
[Surge] lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     6 2005-08-12 11:49 cdrom -> cdrom011:12
[Surge] drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2005-08-12 11:49 cdrom011:12
[Surge] Yeah11:13
burepeoh11:13
burepeok11:13
burepehow do i unmount a auto mount usb stic11:13
burepe?11:13
burepejust pull it out?11:13
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[Surge] umount /media/usbdisk11:14
[Surge] Make sure you're not still browsing it otherwise it'll lock the device so you can't unmount it11:14
burepeok11:15
burepedo you always have to umount automount things?11:15
[Surge] You can list what app is locking it with :  lsof | grep /media/usbdisk11:15
burepewhat about dvd and such11:15
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burepenothing is locking it but just to take it out?11:16
[Surge] With DVDs and CDROMS there is also the "eject" utility11:16
[Surge] eject = eject11:16
burepeshould there be an icon somewhere for the usb?11:16
[Surge] eject -t = close tray11:16
burepeha11:16
[Surge] On KDE yes11:16
burepei got no icon11:16
burepedesktop?11:16
[Surge] Yes11:16
burepenaw11:16
burepedamn11:16
[Surge] I always get an icon poping up on my desktop when I plug in a USB stick or my digital camera11:17
burepeAn error occurred while loading media:/sda1:11:17
burepeThe file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.11:17
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burepeI don't have a media:/sda1 Can I make one?11:24
Hobbsee_awayburepe: just go to /media/ and see if it is there11:25
burepeit is11:25
burepebut i want the icon with the umount feature11:25
burepei love the gui11:26
burepei am a gui kinda guy11:26
Hobbseedont you have the icon on your desktop then?11:26
burepeplus it would just be cool to know how to do so i can impress all my friends11:26
Hobbseethis must be the patch lol11:26
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burepeexactly11:26
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Hobbseethere's a bug in kde11:27
burepewhat patch11:27
burepeoh11:27
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Hobbseedidnt you get the notice?11:27
burepewhere does it come11:27
burepe?11:27
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burepechousuke11:27
burepeare you japanese?11:27
Chousukeburepe: no.11:27
burepeyou live in japan?11:28
burepei saw choubaka11:28
burepewhen you signed in11:28
hugelmopfburepe: are you running the latest updates?11:28
ChousukeNah. I just study the language.11:28
burepei don7t think so11:28
Chousukeburepe: hmm?11:28
burepeme to11:28
burepeyeah11:28
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burepei speak pretty well, but i am always learning11:29
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burepei am reading mondai na nihongo now11:29
burepedo you know it?11:29
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burepeI want to make a japanese kubuntu channel11:29
ChousukeI've heard of it.11:29
burepeso I can learn this stuff in japanese and make japanese linux friends11:29
burepeI live in kobe and i do the kansai linux users group11:30
burepehugelmopf, is the "full upgrade" button in adept for updates?11:31
hugelmopfburepe: concering your problem... you might want to add the breezy-updates to your repository list first.11:31
burepeok11:31
burepethen what?11:31
hugelmopfburepe: Adept : Fetch updates.11:32
hugelmopfburepe: and then Adept: full upgrade11:32
burepegot the repo so i guess i just press the button11:32
hugelmopfyes.11:32
hugelmopfi'll be back later, good luck.11:32
burepethanks11:33
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burepeChousuke, do you have japanese input enabled? I just installed breezy and I had trouble doing it last time, can you tell me how to do it or point me to a recent faq?11:34
ChousukeI'm not running Ubuntu atm.11:35
ChousukeBut11:35
burepeah11:36
ChousukeHmm, actually, I only ever managed to set up Japanese input for gnome. I don't know about KDE11:36
burepeI did kde once then reinstalled couldn't do it11:36
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burepeyou can go to #kansailug if you ever need anything to do with japanese and linux. it is a bit of a ghost town at the moment, but I am always there and a few others11:39
burepei am trying to get it going more11:39
burepeanybody ever install a tv tuner card? I am a little lost as how to make it work11:40
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burepeChousuke, you can go to #kansailug if you ever need anything to do with japanese and linux. it is a bit of a ghost town at the moment, but I am always there and a few others11:44
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Chousukeburepe: I might come in some time to idle. I'm not very good at Japanese yet so I wouldn't be able to talk much.11:46
burepewe dont talk in japanese11:50
ChousukeAh, right.11:50
burepethere are no japanese people actually. I would like it if there were but I havent met any japanese linux users11:50
burepethey are all foreingers11:51
burepebut we can speak japanese and answer questions releated to that and linux11:51
ChousukeI wonder if there are any Japanese linux-channels on the 2ch irc network.11:52
burepethat would be cool11:52
burepeI would like to make a kubuntu one11:52
burepecuz kubuntu is so easy to use11:53
jpatrickburepe: #kubuntu-jp ?11:54
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Hobbseehi again bimberi11:56
bimberihi Hobbsee :)11:57
Hobbsee:)11:57
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burepejpatrick, yeah12:09
burepeit dont exist12:09
burepei think12:09
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_zvodd!apt12:13
ubotufrom memory, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto12:13
_zvodddoes kubuntu come with Perl preinstalled?12:14
_zvodd!perl12:14
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, _zvodd12:14
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Dapper Flight 2 out | KDE 3.5 is out http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 (the KPDF problem is fixed in the latest packages) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
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Hobbseeok, wow...12:29
Hobbseethat was impressive lol!12:29
bimberiyou too then12:29
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Hobbseebimberi: yes, and a lot of other people12:30
Hobbseewhee lol!12:30
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bimberi*ride12:30
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burepeha12:31
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Hobbseeburepe: /msg chanserv help12:32
burepethanks12:32
liamany experienced linux users fancy giving me advice? Its about adding things to my $PATH or using alias'12:32
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burepeHobbsee, that didnt work12:34
Hobbseeburepe: server is in trouble at the moment - a lot of things arent working12:34
burepeok12:34
burepecool12:34
burepethanks12:34
bimberiliam: to add to PATH edit /etc/profile (if you want it to apply to all users) or ~/.bash_profile (to apply to a particular user)12:34
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liamwhat i wanted to do was to be able to type, say, firefox at the command line and it would run firefox12:35
liamdo i use alias or add it to the path12:36
robotgeekliam: it should be in your path already12:36
robotgeekliam: firefox &12:36
liami think i tried it before but ill have a go now12:36
liamfirefox: command not found12:37
Hobbseeliam: do you have firefox installed?12:37
Hobbseetry mozilla-firefox12:38
liamyeah i think so im runing it now so i guess12:38
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liamsame problem12:38
Hobbseeliam: mozilla-firefox --version12:38
Hobbseewhat's it tell you?12:39
liamcommand not found12:39
bimberiliam: Does "echo $PATH" look like this? - /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games12:40
liamecho $PATH12:40
liamoops lol12:40
bimberigotcha :P12:40
liamexactly12:40
Hobbseeliam: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox firefox12:41
Hobbseejust see what it does...12:41
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liamok12:42
liami didnt use the packeage ting to install it12:42
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liamlooks like its installing12:43
Hobbseeliam: what did you use?12:43
_stephenoops,could I ask  a question about Scim input method?12:44
Hobbsee_stephen: sure, got no clue if anyone can answer it though12:44
Hobbsee!ask12:44
liamcan you just expain what i just did, and is there a list of applications that can be isntalled using the package manager12:44
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Hobbseeliam: yes, you just installed firefox, and look in adept package manager for a list of stuff you can install12:44
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burepeAnyone familiar with http://www.gizmoproject.com/12:45
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liamshal;li delete the files that manually uinstalled?12:45
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Hobbseeburepe: no, looks cool though12:45
_stephenwhen I use scim -d to start the scim, a segment fault occur12:45
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Hobbseeliam: probably a good idea - what did you install?12:46
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burepeopen source protocal12:46
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burepeand can use anynetwork12:46
burepemsn12:46
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burepecalls are same price as skype too12:46
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liamit was just firefox from their site12:47
_stephenI tried to compile it myslf,and install again ,same thing occurs12:47
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burepeHobbsee, could I use a debian package for that program?12:48
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Hobbseeburepe: better to build it from source12:48
burepeok12:48
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_stephenif I write a shell to autostart it,then I can't start my KDE12:49
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Hobbseeburepe: where's the darned source???12:49
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burepei dont know12:50
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liamthanks alot12:51
liamno doubt uill be back soemtime12:51
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Hobbseeburepe: darn, no source released - you'll have to try the debs, and hope that they work12:52
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burepesux huh12:53
burepewhy I wonder12:53
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burepeHobbsee, How do install a deb without screwing everything up12:54
burepe?12:54
Hobbsee!deb12:54
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb12:54
burepethanks12:54
Hobbseeno problem12:54
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Hobbseejust because they have debs for debian, doesnt necesarily mean they'll work on (k)ubuntu12:55
jpatrickor right click it -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install...12:55
Hobbseethat too12:55
burepewish me luck12:55
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burepeHobbsee, read halfway down the first post http://forum.gizmoproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=1051&highlight=source&sid=539b4798bbef20eb3ebbd1595fb07af012:57
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burepenevermind12:58
burepethat was not related12:58
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Hobbseeburepe: check with apt-cache show which versions of which packages are in the repos12:58
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jpatrickHobbsee: ouch01:00
Hobbseewas about to tell you that all the versions are later than the ones you needed - then remembered that i'm not running breezy atm lol....01:00
Hobbseeso stupid...01:00
liamhello again01:00
Hobbseehi01:00
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liami want to insatll real playerbut im not sure where to install it to, at teh moment it just sits in a folder called programs in my home folder01:01
Hobbsee!realplayer01:01
ubotumethinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:01
burepeHobbsee, what do you mean?01:01
Hobbseeburepe: running kubuntu dapper, which means i dont have the breezy repositories01:02
burepewhat am i looking for?01:02
burepehttp://forum.gizmoproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=862&sid=539b4798bbef20eb3ebbd1595fb07af001:02
Hobbseeyeah, you're fine on breezy too - i just checked with ubotu01:02
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Hobbseeburepe: on that first thread, you're looking for the dependancy errors, and why they failed - then you're looking for the version numbers with apt-cache show packagename, to see if they are higher or lower than the minimum required01:04
Hobbseeordinarily you dont have to bother - or you just find out as soon as you try to install the deb01:04
liamif not real plyer then what should i use? and still where is best to install prgrams too01:04
liamif i want everyone to use them01:04
Hobbseeliam: heard of apt-get?01:04
Hobbsee!apt-get01:04
ubotuwell, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/01:04
Hobbseeyou might want to check that out - you dont have to install the packages manually01:04
burepeHobbsee, that first thread was a mistake. sorry01:05
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Hobbseeno problems01:06
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burepeHobbsee, what can you tell me about tv tuner cards?01:08
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Hobbseeburepe: absolutely nothing, except for #ubuntu, the wiki, and google, in that order01:09
Hobbseelol01:09
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burepeyeah01:09
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zajacslvplease give me name of program --- wma > mp3 etc...01:18
burepegizmo is dependant on this package libsipphoneapi but i can't find it in adept. Any suggestions?01:19
liamsorry, how do i add things to $PATH again01:20
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Hobbseeburepe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9695701:20
burepeyou are quick01:21
Hobbseegoogle is, yes01:21
liamlol01:21
Hobbsee[22:34]  <bimberi> liam: to add to PATH edit /etc/profile (if you want it to apply to all users) or ~/.bash_profile (to apply to a particular user)01:23
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liamthanks01:29
liamthat doenst make senzx=se to me that file01:30
liam:(01:30
liami need to add realy player to the $path so i can use the firefox plugins01:30
liamok, do i put a link to the app i want in, say, /usr/bin/X11?01:32
Hobbseei have no idea01:32
Hobbseebimberi: any idea?01:32
liami may try it it looks that way01:33
liamill find the folder that has the link to firefox and try and stick it ion there01:33
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bimberiHobbsee, liam:  sorry, none really01:36
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bimberiliam: there is some info on installing realplayer & (k)ubuntu at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods01:39
bimberi... doesn't mention firefox integration though01:39
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[-SiO-] error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:42
[-SiO-] im trying to install a kde theme (CrystalClear) .... but the configure script says "error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"01:42
robotgeek!xincludes01:43
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev01:43
[-SiO-] thanks01:43
Hobbsee[-SiO-] : the link to crystal clear?01:43
Hobbseei've heard of it, i dont remember what it looks like...01:43
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[-SiO-] hobbsee: 1 sec01:44
Hobbseek01:44
Hobbseeoh...them...yes, they're pretty!01:44
[-SiO-] hobbsee: http://linuxcult.com/forum/crystal.php01:45
[-SiO-] oh ok :p01:45
Hobbseevery nice01:46
Hobbseei'd not found that link01:46
_luorshi all01:47
_luorsis there any utility to list installed fonts in kubuntu ?01:48
DHGE_luors: kcontrol -> fonts ?01:51
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_luorsDHGE: i see. thank you :D01:54
_luorsand ... is it possible to know which font is being used for a specific text on the screen ?01:55
Hobbseenight all01:55
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StephenZhaonight~~~02:04
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osh_I've read that thing about reading dvd's in ubuntu (restricted formats wiki) but still I can't watch my dvd. I see the files but I can't play it. Anyone got any hints?02:17
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burepe!skype02:21
ubotuskype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl02:21
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StephenZhaoosh,maybe you need a good player02:29
osh_StephenZhao: Tried Kaffeine, okle and vlc. No go in either of them. :-/02:29
burepeWho programs the bots to say the things they do? Like instead of the directions on how to install skype wouldn't it be easier to tell them to use the source-o-matic and enable the repo that has skype and then  download it using adept? It seems like a lot easier way to do it.02:30
StephenZhaoosh_:try mplayer,kaffeine always crash02:31
osh_StephenZhao: Noted. Mplayer isn't in any of the repos though is it?02:32
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burepeosh_, if you use the source o matic to get your repos you can get one that has mplayer02:40
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burepe!repos02:40
ubotuI heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:40
holger#ruby_talk02:40
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burepeAnyone know a clock that I can display more than one timezone at the same time?02:50
Tm_Tburepe: Kicker has clock applet02:50
burepekicker02:50
burepeok02:50
Tm_Tburepe: you can use several clocks in kicker each one using different timezone02:50
Tm_Tburepe: kicker = panel02:51
burepeoh02:51
burepei see02:51
burepethanks02:51
Tm_Tnp02:51
Tm_TI use ~6 timezones in one clock, mousewheel toggles between zones02:51
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burepehow do you do that?02:51
burepeman windows sucks compared to this stuff02:52
jpat|awayburepe: easy02:52
burepei have been looking for a good clock for ages02:52
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GreKomre02:52
Tm_Tburepe: rightclick on clock -> Show Timezone -> configure timezones02:52
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Tm_Tborky shift :/02:52
burepethat is awsome!02:52
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burepedamn02:52
GreKomhello all, yes I see am now on right place02:53
kakeihey guys hi, i'm having troublings with KDE how can i proof it?02:53
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Tm_Tkakei: it depends, what kind of problem?02:53
Tm_TGreKom: hullo02:53
GreKomTm_T, hello from Slovenia02:53
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GreKomam new to Linux and Kubuntu02:53
Tm_TGreKom: hello from Finland :)02:54
kakeiTm_T it's not starting, i typed startx and Gnome start. i want to use KDE  i was using it but it stop working when i rebooted after modify my nvidia drivers02:54
GreKomTm_T, hehe02:54
Tm_Tkakei: uff, you get any login screen?02:54
kakeiTm_T no02:54
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kakeii typed startx as i said and came here (Gnome)02:54
jpat|awayburepe: nice clock: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1442302:54
Tm_Tkakei: do this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:55
GreKomyes, yes, yes i did it02:55
Tm_TGreKom: soemthing we can help you with?02:56
Tm_Terr, I can type very well today02:56
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GreKomTm_T, thanx, but I think I just managed to get Kubuntu and network working on my router02:57
Tm_TGreKom: oh sounds good02:57
coldDoes anyone know what ubuntu runs on port 1026 and 1027?02:57
Tm_Tcold: I think nothing02:57
GreKommy intent was, to ask her, but it runs now werry well02:57
Tm_Tcold: why?02:57
coldI wanted to close them02:57
Tm_Tcold: then close02:58
coldand was wondering what is running them so I can close it......02:58
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Tm_Tnothing by default IIRC so close :)02:58
GreKomTm_T, it was hard work, my Apple does not need editing .conf files02:58
fenoambyhey02:58
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Tm_TGreKom: yes, money talks etc02:58
fenoambyi need some help !02:58
Tm_Tfenoamby: ok, please ask :)02:59
GreKomTm_T, still better than windows ;)02:59
Tm_Tkakei: if you got any luck or no, hint me02:59
fenoambyi just buy a USB HDD 2"1/2 Box and i put a disk in02:59
Tm_TGreKom: far better to me02:59
fenoambybut Kubu don t see my box02:59
Tm_Tfenoamby: ah, install am-utils ?03:00
fenoambyi put it on my notebook with XP and no problem, then i format it on FAT32 but the same problem on Kubu03:00
GreKomTm_T, hehehe, I tried to install server on NT4... crashed, hope I will have more luck in Kubuntu... any hints?03:00
kakeiTm_T done03:00
Tm_TGreKom: install what? :)03:01
Tm_Tkakei: ok, you set kdem to default dm ?03:01
fenoambyTm_T: sudo install am-utils  (install : so less arguments03:01
Tm_Tkdm I mean03:01
kakeihow do i set it? Tm_T03:01
GreKomTm_T, FTP server fot home network03:01
Tm_Tfenoamby: aye03:01
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Tm_Tkakei: uh, I thought it asked during install (if there was anything to install)03:01
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Tm_TGreKom: ftp... how about ssh? I never liked ftp03:02
GreKomTm_T, so I can have all MP3 files shared and backup on it03:02
kakeikdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kubuntu-desktop03:02
kakei what with it installed03:02
fenoambyit s a auto alimentation box (may be the problem ?)03:02
GreKomTm_T, ssh?, I am newbee in those words03:02
Tm_Tkakei: ah ok, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm"03:03
kakeiTm_T i get errors03:03
Tm_TGreKom: it's secure shell, but you can use it to transfer files or what ever03:03
djk_kakei:  you can edit the /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to kdm or dpkg-reconfigure kdm03:03
Tm_Tdjk_: that too03:04
Tm_Tkakei: what errors?03:04
GreKomTm_T, I used to be windows user (some kind of guru for people around me), but those worms forced me to buy an old G4... it improved my life (more time for other stuff)03:04
Tm_Theh03:04
kakeiTm_T =( they'r on spanish my ubuntu is on spanish03:04
kakeidjk_ kakei@kakei:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm03:04
kakeidebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process03:04
Tm_Tkakei: shut down synaptic or whatever youre using03:05
djk_what he said^^;)03:05
kakeii did03:05
fenoambyTm_T:  with XP i format the disk in FAT32 but i don t think it s the problem03:05
burepeMan that clock is bad!03:05
Tm_Tfenoamby: it's not03:05
burepeBad as in good03:05
burepei mean03:05
burepesorry03:05
jpat|awayburepe: well yeah :)03:05
burepethat was confusing03:05
fenoambyTm_T:  i don t have problem with my other external box or with my usb key03:06
Tm_Tfenoamby: have you installed that am-utils ?03:06
burepelike bad ass03:06
Tm_Tfenoamby: oh :o03:06
Tm_Tfenoamby: then.. I don't know :/03:06
burepethanks yall03:06
burepeyou made my day03:06
Tm_Tburepe: np, have a good time with KDE :)03:06
GreKomTm_T, ok thanks for chatting... I will list this channel in my bookmarks, if I would need any help. Looks like you have enough to do with support ;)03:06
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Tm_TGreKom: ;)03:06
GreKomok folks, CA03:07
Tm_Thmm, let's see if kakei gets it working... =)03:07
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kakeiTm_T i keep getting the same and nothing is usin apt-get / synaptic03:09
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kakeiTm_T but maybe i can download then via synaptic how do i do?03:09
fenoambyTm_T:  possible the hddBox incompatible with Linux ?03:10
woulhello fellows03:10
Tm_Tfenoamby: can't see why, but possible03:10
wouldoes anyone play planeshift03:10
fenoambyTm_T: on the notice : compatible with 98/me/2000/XP and mac 8.6 or higher03:11
Tm_Tkakei: you probably does have kdm already installed, so just change that config03:11
kakeisudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm03:11
kakei ?03:11
kakeibut.03:11
Tm_Tfenoamby: does it have separate drivers with it?03:11
woulim having problems on instalation/configuration...03:11
kakeikakei@kakei:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm03:11
kakeidebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process03:11
fenoambyTm_T:  drivers for win9803:11
Tm_Tfenoamby: then it should work just fine in linux03:11
fenoambyTm_T:  drivers for win98 and mac03:11
kakeiTm_T i will reboot03:12
kakeilet se03:12
kakeilet see03:12
Tm_Tthat reminds me, I should reboot too03:12
djk_why03:12
LjLops: i'm being asked why 200.109.0.0 is banned03:13
LjLerr, though actually that's on #ubuntu, wrong channel :)03:13
djk_you were close ;)03:14
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Tm_Tdjk_: dapper -> new updates, would be good to get them running properly :)03:15
djk_i suppose :)03:15
Tm_Tbut that later03:16
Tm_Thave to finish compiling koffice03:16
djk_what are the requirements for koffice?03:16
djk_i just bought a p2-450 2 days ago.. and OOo2 most certainly will take a minute +n to start03:17
Tm_TKOffice is lighter03:17
Tm_Tmuch ligher03:17
Tm_T+t03:17
djk_of course.. no java :)03:17
Tm_Twell, compare 1M lines of code to 6M lines of code03:18
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Tm_Tapprox03:18
Tm_Tif I don't remember totally wrong03:18
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fenoambyTm_T:  i find the problem03:19
jubeiHello, has there been a fix for the known issue of amarok crashing when playing some mp3s?03:19
Tm_Tfenoamby: oh, what is it?03:19
Tm_Tjubei: what version of amaroK, what engine03:19
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kakei/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: kdm is broken or isnt fully installed03:20
fenoambyTm_T: i put the usb behind my tower and linux detect my box03:20
Tm_Tjubei: first, make sure you have the lates Kubuntu packages: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php03:20
Tm_Tkakei: :o03:20
djk_kakei: then reinstall.03:20
djk_kakei: kdm i mean03:20
jubeiTm_T: ill check now its the one that came with breezy03:20
Tm_Tfenoamby: heh :)03:20
kakeihow do i reinstall i forget the command ? djk_03:20
Tm_Tjubei: too old, upgrade03:20
Tm_Tkakei: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm03:20
fenoambyTm_T: if someone have the same problem with auto alimentate  box03:20
jubeiTm_T: ok, um so my local mirror must have not upated yet?03:20
Tm_Tjubei: no, look that url I gave, that's provided separately03:21
kakeiTm_T done o.o03:21
Tm_Tkakei: no errors?03:21
kakeinow i can reconfigure03:21
Tm_Tgood03:21
kakeihow do i switch?03:21
djk_switch what03:21
kakeito kde03:21
Tm_Tit asks if you have multiple DM:s03:21
jubeiTm_T: ok thanks, so the file from the url you gave me doesn get sent to my local mirror?03:22
kakeicontrol alt backspace?03:22
Tm_Tjubei: yes03:22
Tm_Tkakei: just log out03:22
Tm_Tlet me guess, he doesn't remember "session" selection ;)03:22
djk_probably not03:22
djk_probably doesn't know how to wait for an answer either03:23
Tm_Thehe03:23
Tm_Tso typical, glad I'm in good mood atm03:23
jubeiTm_T: where can I check for updated deb files in the future?03:23
djk_me too :)03:23
Tm_Tjubei: http://kubuntu.org/03:23
nestahello03:24
nestadoes anyone here have a good book recommendation for a nix noob ?03:24
djk_linux for dummies..03:24
Tm_Tnesta: yes, "Linux For Dummies"03:24
djk_eh..03:24
Tm_Tit's funny :)03:24
djk_really?03:24
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Tm_Tyes03:24
djk_never read one of the dummies books03:25
Tm_Tthat's only one I've ever read03:25
djk_what does it teach?03:25
Tm_Tfun and simple, basic commandline stuff03:25
djk_ah.. bought a book with all CLI commands listed and explained.. sort of like a quick reference.. when i started with linux.03:26
Tm_Tdjk_: it can't have _all_03:26
Tm_Tnot even half03:26
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Tm_Tbut maybe most needed ones :)03:27
kakeiTm_T i dont see the configuration erm h03:27
Tm_Tkakei: ?03:27
Tm_Tyou got that login screen now?03:27
djk_Tm_T: i know.. but i think 500 pages include _enough_ to survive ;)03:27
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kakeii mean i dont see the screen so i cant choose bewteen gnome or KDE i just type startx and start Gnome03:27
Tm_Tdjk_: yes, basics :)03:27
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djk_i suppose it's in finnish?03:28
Tm_Tover 1000 pages and still only basic stuff03:28
Tm_Tdjk_: english03:29
nestais linux for dummies good for kubuntu too ?03:29
burepeI am using skype and if my mic and line in are off in Kmix I can call people. If one of them is on it says problem with sound device, The faq doesn't mention this problem,but maybe I am missing it. Any suggestions?03:29
Tm_Tnesta: sure03:29
nestaawesome03:29
nestaim going to go buy it03:29
nesta=] 03:29
Tm_Thehe03:29
nestathanks!03:29
Tm_Tnesta: better: use library ;)03:29
nestahehe03:29
nestai collect books :p03:30
josehi Spanish people here?03:30
burepe!spanish03:30
ubotuhmm... spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda03:30
nestahehe03:31
Tm_Taye03:31
kakeiTm_T help me =(03:31
kakeikakei@kakei:~$  /etc/init.d/kdm start03:31
kakeiStarting K Display Manager: kdmOnly root wants to run kdm03:31
kakei already running.03:31
kakeiisn't that weird?03:31
jubeiTm_T: thanks for your help, seems to be working now03:31
Tm_Tit's weird that you don't go to kdm directly from boot03:32
Tm_Tjubei: np03:32
Tm_Tjubei: it works now?03:32
Tm_Tkakei: you're not supposed to need to start kdm or X separately03:33
jubeiTm_T: yep. Same songs no longer crash amarok.03:33
kakeiTm_T rgg =(03:33
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Tm_Tjubei: very good03:34
Tm_Tjubei: I use devel version of amaroK, works just fine :)03:34
jubeiTm_T: I see, i'm curious as to how the latest packeges are dribbled to the mirrors.03:35
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jubeiTm_T: like I tried apt-get update but newer versions of amarok didnt show up03:36
Tm_Tjubei: dunno, ask from Riddell :)03:36
jubeiTm_T: K03:36
jpat|awayjubei: sudo apt-get upgrade03:36
kakeiTm_T any idea ? maybe if i delete KDE and i REINSTALL it?03:37
jubeijpat|away: I thought that was for updating to a new version like from hoary to breezy?03:37
Tm_Tjubei: nope03:37
jpat|awayjubei: no it isn't03:37
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Tm_Tjubei: update just updates package lists, upgrade upgrades ;)03:37
jubeiI see, so will it upgrade all my programs?03:38
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jpatrickjubei: yes03:38
jubeiahh see I dont want that03:38
kakeiTm_T ?03:38
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jubeiI only upgrade If I want a feature or need to fix a bug03:38
Tm_Tjubei: and basic idea why some newer KDE app versions are in different repository is that Ubuntu has its release policy03:38
reagleBRKLNwhat linux util can unpack a sit/hqx?03:38
Tm_Tjubei: actually you should upgrade always ;)03:39
jubei;) for what reasons?03:39
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Tm_Tjubei: because inside release they only get bug fix upgrades03:39
Tm_Tas long as you use breezy repositories, you only get bug fixes03:39
Tm_Tmainly03:39
Tm_Tkakei: no reinstall to kde, that's not kde issue03:40
kakeiand who issue? x_x03:40
Tm_Tkakei: what happens first after boot, you end up to console?03:40
kakeiafter boot i got a black screen like a big console03:41
Tm_Thmm, doesn't sound right03:41
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Tm_Tkakei: ok, and after reinstalling kdm, did you reboot?03:41
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kakeiTm_T yes03:42
Tm_Thmm03:42
Tm_Tcan you try this: "sudo apt-get remove gdm"03:42
jubeiOk I may as well ask in here now. Why doesnt my windows key work any more? Ever since I upgraded to breezy my amarok shortcuts dont work. Like windows key + c for pause.03:42
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Tm_Tjubei: it supposed to work03:42
jubeiTm_T: indeed :)03:43
jpatrickkakei: maybe `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?03:43
kakeiTm_T if i do that i remove gnome and i will no have Graphix03:43
Tm_T...03:43
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Tm_Tkakei: no, gnome is not (or should not) depend to gdm03:43
Tm_Tjpatrick: hmm, but if gnome works :o03:45
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Tm_Tkakei: jpatrick: I leave you two to look this thing now, good luck :) ->03:45
jpatrickhmmm03:46
kakeijpactrick i reconfigure03:46
kakeii must restart gnome to see?03:46
jpatrickkakei: restart X03:47
kakeik brb03:47
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jpatrickhi libben03:49
skriptlet's say I install breezy and also install packages from non-official package repositories... what happens if I later do dist-upgrade to dapper ? will it remove all those 'unofficial' packages ?03:49
libbensup03:49
libbenhmm03:49
libbenis freenode attacked03:49
libbeni can see its been mysterious connection against freenode all time.03:50
jpatricklibben: yes03:50
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libbenooh. ok. that explains it then03:50
jpatrickhttp://freenode.net/news.shtml03:50
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burepewhat do the bots do exactly03:52
jpatrickburepe: flood the server, etc03:52
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burepejpatrick, thanks. Why do people do that? I guess that is a silly question but really, why?04:05
jpatrickburepe: no idea04:06
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kakeihey04:11
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kakeiwho was the guy helping me ? jpactrick?04:12
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kakeiwho was the guy helping me ? jpactrick? yuhu!04:14
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jpatrickkakei: hello04:15
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jpatricksorry I was adding things to Wikipedia04:15
ganymed_hallo. i cannot log into kde other than with root... it happened first after a crash of the power supply system (an outside issue). the pc switched off. after switching it on again, i can start kdm (since it is run by root), but i cannot login excep with root. any ides?04:17
ganymed_ideas04:17
Balooohi does  anybady  know  what   this  means  ?  64.36.1147 Pci cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:19:004:17
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kakeijpatrick how can i reinstall Kubuntu_desktop04:25
jpatrickapt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:25
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kakeijpatrick it doesnt download anythin04:28
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epMy clock's not set to show seconds. What applet or app might I use to ballpark time stuff.  For instance, the amount of time it takes openoffice to load.04:29
epStupid question I know but what the heck. I notice theres a tea timer in kdetoys but this isn't appropiate for the task.04:31
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billikohello everybody04:39
billikocan i speak with somebody?04:40
billikowhat is kubuntu? is it different from ubuntu?04:41
djk_kubuntu= kde+ubuntu base, ubuntu = Gnome + ubuntu base04:42
djk_kubuntu is the better choice ;)04:42
billikosorry, but if i use ubuntu i haven't kde, have i?04:43
jpatrickaccording to most people :)04:43
jpatrickbilliko: you can install it from Ubuntu04:43
djk_billiko: no, but you can easily install it04:43
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billikokubuntu is different only for the kde from ubuntu?04:43
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kakeihi guys04:44
djk_well, not _just_ kde.. also kde progs instead of gnome progs..04:44
kakeiim talking in irssi04:44
kakeii dont have graphix04:44
billikoso kubuntu is better.....04:44
MrMazdamay VCs keep getting flooded with this junk: [4294880.753000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).04:44
MrMazdas/may/my/04:44
kakeii think i need to pastebin something to show u guys how can i pastebin without graphix?04:44
billikobut is there any version of kubuntu in italian?04:44
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djk_billiko: kde is better than gnome because kde is kde ;)04:45
djk_billiko: yes..04:45
billikowhich version^?04:45
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billikodownloadable from where^04:45
billiko?04:45
MrMazdaanyone know how to fix broken tty[1-6] ?04:45
djk_all, apt..04:46
billikosorry...i do't understand..... can i find any italian version of kubuntu?04:46
billikobecause there is a version of ubuntu expressily italian....04:46
billiko......04:47
billikono answer?04:47
kakeidjk_ i'm without X i cant startx with the error ' no screens found'04:47
jpatrickbilliko: `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'04:48
billikojpatrick i would link to download the entrie package04:48
billikobecause i haven't installed anyversion of ubuntu yet04:48
kakeijpatrick : im without X i cant startx , error : no screens found04:48
billikoi would like to*04:48
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Chousukebilliko: there is no italian installation CD of ubuntu. but04:49
Chousukeafter you install ubuntu, you can set it up to be in Italian.04:49
kakeisome1 help me =(04:49
jpatrickbilliko: `sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-it' for KDE Italian04:49
billikoChousuke as happens in mandrake04:50
billikowhere you select the language04:50
jpatrickkakei: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' again04:50
billikofrom the installation menu?04:50
Chousukebilliko: yeah. I guess.04:50
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jpatrickbilliko: you can set it in the installer04:50
billikoahhh ok thanks04:50
DelvienAnyone here experienced with KXdocker?04:50
billikoi'm downloading kubuntu and ubuntupi!04:50
billikoi'm downloading kubuntu and ubuntu+!04:50
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billikowhat is better for you? kubuntu or mandriva?04:51
BigKahunaAnybody have KSmoothDock working with Kubuntu04:51
jpatrickMandriva sucks04:51
jpatrickDelvien: I'm the KXDocker packager for Kubuntu04:51
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Delvienjpatrick ah cool04:52
jpatrickbilliko: I hate the changes they've done to KDE04:52
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Delvienjpatrick can you tell me how to make KXdocker now show the current running apps? and only be a docker? or is there not a way to do that04:52
GreKomre04:52
billikojpatrick which kind of changing?04:52
kakeijpatrick : it said is locked by other process04:52
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jpatrickDelvien: show taskbar in dock?04:52
Delvienjpatrick aye thats it04:53
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albertobuenas04:53
GreKomwell, I thnik I really messed it this time... kubuntu wont boot04:53
mrsunshinehumm, how was this with the root pass in ubuntu ? :>04:53
mrsunshinei cant figure it out :>04:53
albertoalguien de espaa?04:53
albertoSPAIN??04:53
jpatrickalberto: #kubuntu-es04:53
ganymed_ my question: Is it normal that /etc/X11/Xsession has to be set to xwr for ALL users?04:53
jpatrickmrsunshine: it's your password04:54
GreKomanyone knows how to fix problems with wrong drive assigment?04:54
mrsunshinebut last i tried i couldnt log in :>04:54
mrsunshineand ic ant find the stupid terminal :P04:54
mrsunshinelike first time i use kde :P04:54
jpatrickmrsunshine: couldn't log in as root?04:54
ChousukeRiddell_: you can't login as root. :p04:54
Chousukeeh04:54
mrsunshineatleast i cant su04:54
mrsunshinesu: Authentication failure04:54
ChousukeRiddell_: never mind.04:54
Chousukemrsunshine: use sudo04:55
albertoTHKS!04:55
Delvienjpatrick know how to do it?04:55
jpatrickmrsunshine: why login as root?04:55
mrsunshineohh04:55
mrsunshinejpatrick: can always be good? :>04:55
GreKomTm_T, still good in typing?04:55
jpatrickDelvien: isn't it in the options?04:55
mrsunshinewhen you want to do something more then just one command at a time04:55
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billikowhy he can't use the command su?04:55
mrsunshineand yeah .. why doesnt su work? :<04:55
billikoisn't there the root access?04:55
jpatrickmrsunshine & billiko : use sudo!!04:55
Delvienjpatrick no04:55
billikoyes but why?04:56
kakei1.0.7676but this X module is version 1.0.8174 . please be sure that your kernel04:56
mrsunshinejpatrick: sure .. but WHY doesnt su work? :P04:56
jpatrickmrsunshine: coz it's being patched04:56
jpatricksee: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RootSudo04:56
billikouhmmm so ubuntu has still to grow....04:57
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coolio10hi04:57
jpatrickbilliko: it's been like that since day 104:57
mrsunshineihumm :>04:57
jpatrickand it ain't gonna change04:57
GreKomheyya, sorry to disturb the conversation04:57
coolio10how can i get shockwave installed into firefox? Before it automatically detected the plugin and installed shockwave but now it says unknown plugin and takes me to makers website04:58
mrsunshineargh . .powernowd .. how to configure :P04:58
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GreKomI cant get Kubutnu to work anymore... I messed around with disks04:58
zvoddif i give a group read access to a folder and then add a user to that group, the user should be able to read the folder, right? or am i missing the point of groups?04:58
GreKomanyno know how to fix it?04:59
coolio10i just added all the seconday groups to my user04:59
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kakeiguys look at this : Error Api : mismath the Nvidia Kernel module is version04:59
kakeihey guys pls help me with this i'm using ubuntu breezy and i cant startx the error is : Api missmatch  the nvidia kernel is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version  1.0.8174. please be sure that your kernel04:59
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mrsunshineand why the freaking **** does my hardrive work all the time? :/05:01
jpatrickmrsunshine: isnt' it suppose to?05:01
mrsunshinenot when im idle05:01
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mrsunshineits nagging on something05:01
mrsunshinebut i dont know what05:01
kakeihey guys pls help me, i cant startx the error is : Api missmatch  the nvidia kernel is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version  1.0.8174. please be sure that your kernel05:02
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_nano_My konqueror is behaving erraticaly while web browsing, could anyone suggest me some settings changes that I could use?05:04
zvoddhow do i set a static ip address? which conf file would i find those settings in?05:04
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_nano_zvodd: /etc/network/interaces?05:05
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GreKomhey, can I repair my drive sttings from command line?05:05
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mrsunshineanyone using powernowd?05:07
mrsunshinei realy need to get one of my hardrives shut off .. it sounds like a thousand needles :P05:07
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BigKahunajpatrick, I  saw your earlier post re KXDocker, can KXDocker be configured to act only as an application launcher  and not show running applications?05:11
knubbeanyone who can recommend a good gui for subversion?05:12
_zvodddo i change the line "iface eth1 inet dhcp" to "iface eth1 inet 192.168.1.53/24" to make my ip address static?05:12
knubbeis rapidsvn THE one to use?05:12
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jpatrickknubbe: kdesvn05:12
jpatrickBigKahuna: not too sure05:13
kakeihey guys  i did 'sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx' and them 'sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx' now i get : Caught Signal 11. Server Aborting05:13
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knubbejpatrick: thank you05:14
jpatrickBigKahuna: it doesn't have to show running apps05:15
BigKahunajpatrick, ok, so how do I disable that then.05:15
BigKahunajpatrick, default installation shows running apps in the dock.05:16
jpatrickBigKahuna: I know it's in the configuration somewhere....05:16
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gverigCan I have only one panel in KDE or can I add more?05:16
LjLyou can add as many as you wish05:16
LjLjust right click on the present panel05:16
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mrsunshineehm .. no mplayer?!05:17
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jpatrickmrsunshine: most people don't dare to package that app05:17
mrsunshinewhy ?05:18
jpatrickit's horrible to package05:18
mrsunshineits the best media player out there imo :/05:18
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jpatrickmrsunshine: i think's mplayer-38605:18
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tobiis the qt in (k)ubuntu (Breezy Badger) compiled with tablet support?05:19
mrsunshinei cant find any packages that is named even close to mplayer :>05:19
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WatjeHello everyone! KDE thinks cups isn't running, but it actually is! Look at http://dionyxus.nl/cups.png for some more info. Does anyone knows what is wrong?05:20
McScruffmrsunshine , i installed automatrix then installed it05:20
McScruffmplayer is in repos tho05:21
_ppmrsunshine : have you enabled the universe  multiverse repositories ?05:22
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[miles] evening all05:22
mrsunshine_pp: trying to figure out how to do it atm :P05:22
[miles] I'm trying to install K9Copy05:22
McScruffsudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list05:23
gverigLjL: Thanks!05:23
[miles] found with http://repos.knio.it/ , but when I go to install it via adept it says "Breaks"05:23
McScruffit wil then open the repos, then just remove the # by the ones you want to use, then save05:23
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[miles] any ideas how I get it installed please?05:24
McScruffcompile it?05:24
McScruffmrsunshine , did you get it?05:25
[miles] well I'd like a repo that works with Kubuntu...05:25
McScruffthere might not be pre-compiled packages for everything :S05:25
[miles] when it's saying "Break" it does not give me any info as to what it's breaking!05:25
mrsunshineMcScruff: no .. i dont know what reps to enable05:25
mrsunshineas none of them matches the one in the "tutorial" :>05:26
McScruffmrsunshine , in a konsole type "sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"05:26
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McScruffit will open kwrite with the sources05:26
_ppmrsunshine : look here and use "kate" instead of "gedit" ... http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php#repositories05:26
McScruff_pp , ^^i use kwrite :P05:26
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_nano_anyone upgraded to 3,5?05:27
McScruffyes05:27
_nano_McScruff: did you face any dependency problems for some applications?05:27
McScruff_nano_ , what programs?, i havent yet05:27
_ppMcScruff : :) ok ... the idea is to use something that is installed with kubuntu... kate, kwrite ...05:28
_nano_McScruff: akregator, kmail etc.05:28
deemoanyone here know where i can get the mod_dav_svn.so file for subversion?05:28
McScruffmrsunshine , once kwrite / kate is open just remove the # by the ones you want to use and save, then sudo apt-get update05:28
mrsunshinewell what ones do i want to use that is the million dollar question05:28
McScruff_nano_ , i havent tried them, but no problems anywhere else, i will try kmail now05:29
McScruffmrsunshine , universe05:29
McScruff_nano_ akregator is working fine :S05:29
_ppmrsunshine: those with universe and/or multiverse in it05:30
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_nano_McScruff: no I meant while upgrading05:30
_nano_McScruff: but they are working nevertheless for me too, although i'm not sure if everything is right05:30
[miles] http://archive.czessi.net/pool/breezy/testing/i386/05:30
[miles] found a repo if anyone else is intrested05:30
_nano_[miles] : what's special about this repo?05:31
McScruff_nano_ , tbh i never use them, but the programs i do use are fine, never had problems :S05:31
[miles] has K9Copy for Kubuntu on05:31
McScruffim looking for the latest klibido (too lazy to build tbh)05:31
hugelmopf[miles] : what is your sources.list line for this repo?05:32
[miles] deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy testing05:32
_nano_McScruff: my konqueror has also become erratic while web browsing, unlike other browsers which are working fine05:32
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hugelmopf[miles] : thanks.05:32
[miles] yw05:32
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McScruff_nano_ mine was fine whie i upgraded and after upgrade05:32
mrsunshineyay got some more packages .. and now i just hope all these have amd64 versions? :P05:33
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T3hWiz0rdjesus is here!05:33
_nano_McScruff: you used the repo announced in the kubuntu site right?05:33
T3hWiz0rd:-P05:33
_nano_DJ_Mer_: howdy!05:33
McScruff_nano_ , yep05:33
T3hWiz0rd_nano_: im on teh wizord right now nan05:33
Insomniac-T3hWiz0rd: my new comp arrived \o.05:33
Insomniac-\o/05:34
Insomniac-heh05:34
T3hWiz0rdInsomniac-: YEAH! \m/05:34
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_nano_Insomniac-: congrats ! :D05:34
Insomniac-now i just need a case05:34
Insomniac-hehe05:34
T3hWiz0rdheh05:34
T3hWiz0rdmail me the old one :-P05:34
T3hWiz0rdim a packrat05:34
_nano_Insomniac-: natural cooling, why use a case :)05:35
Insomniac-although it does run fine on this cardbox box05:35
T3hWiz0rdhahaha05:35
mrsunshineFINALY some sweet sweet music05:35
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T3hWiz0rd_nano_: i just got yelled at for being tired :-\05:37
T3hWiz0rd_nano_: i was asleep for crying out loud05:37
_nano_T3hWiz0rd: lol05:37
T3hWiz0rdits like... well just go die woman05:37
mrsunshineubotu: tell me about powernowd05:38
mrsunshinedoes that work? :>05:39
mrsunshineyay05:39
_nano_!powernowd05:39
ubotuI haven't a clue, _nano_05:39
mrsunshine!powernowd05:39
T3hWiz0rdbritish bot?05:39
T3hWiz0rd"I haven't a clue"??05:39
mrsunshinejaha :P05:39
mrsunshineohh :>05:39
mrsunshinedidnt notice that05:39
mrsunshine!powernow05:39
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mrsunshine05:39
T3hWiz0rdlmao05:39
_nano_lmao05:39
mrsunshineubotu: tell me about powernow05:39
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T3hWiz0rd!ubotu love?05:39
mrsunshinebah :>05:39
_nano_!powernow05:39
ubotuT3hWiz0rd: I give up, what is it?05:39
T3hWiz0rdlol05:40
_nano_haha05:40
T3hWiz0rdi really don't know ubotu05:40
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T3hWiz0rdubotu PMed me05:42
ubotuT3hWiz0rd: Not a clue05:42
T3hWiz0rd... ifeel creepy now05:42
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kakei_Hey guys how can i delete all the stuff of nvidia to reinstall it , finnally i started X (gnome, i want KDE Back)05:44
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slow-motionhallo05:48
_nano_I can't get my tranparency settings to work, any idea if there's anything more I need to do?05:49
T3hWiz0rd_nano_: transparency...pfft... wtf is this windows?05:49
_nano_T3hWiz0rd: no in KDE05:49
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_nano_T3hWiz0rd: need some eye candies to keep me motivated for doing my work :D05:50
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T3hWiz0rd_nano_: i know i know.... i was trying to should like a headless elitist05:50
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T3hWiz0rdbut of course you RUINED it.. jerk :-P05:50
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_nano_T3hWiz0rd: haha05:50
T3hWiz0rdnow i've gotta go kill myself05:50
T3hWiz0rdi'll be back in 505:50
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T3hWiz0rdokay wow05:52
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_alexhey, im having trouble setting up my wlan, have installed ndiswrapper fine.. but I cant seem to see my access point, any ideas?05:53
T3hWiz0rdmy little brother just poured a bowl of cerial so big i think ti'll eat him... americans do eat toom uch05:53
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WatjeHello everyone! KDE thinks cups isn't running, but actually it is! Look at http://dionyxus.nl/cups.png for some more info. Does anyone knows what is wrong?05:53
MrSunshine"adept-updater" "You n eed to run this application as root to make ny use of it"05:54
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MrSunshineffs what is this :/05:55
_nano_I didn't see much difference between 3.4 and 3.505:56
MrSunshinegoing to reboot :P05:56
_nano_MrSunshine: wait hang on05:56
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T3hWiz0rdlol05:56
jpatrickMrSunshine: run it with kdesu05:57
_nano_MrSunshine: use alt+f2, kdesu adept-updater05:57
_nano_yeah05:57
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T3hWiz0rdlol05:57
T3hWiz0rd"going to reboot"05:57
T3hWiz0rdlmao.....05:57
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arnieboygot a question05:58
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arnieboyhow do I make konqueror show me the tree and meta data on the left?05:59
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T3hWiz0rdWAEFKI05:59
arnieboyit only shows me one window with folders in it05:59
_johnanyone knows why is mplayer-custom libavcodec2 dependent, when that package isn't in any of repositories ?05:59
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T3hWiz0rdWAEFKI06:00
zv_oddwhat is the command to delete a file?06:00
_johnrm06:00
zv_oddty06:00
hugelmopfarnieboy: did you start it as web-browser or file-manager (e.g. via System)?06:00
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arnieboyhugelmopf, as file manager06:01
MrSunshineough .. how do i make kde NOT use arts? .. i have a hw mixing sound card06:01
hugelmopfarnieboy: usually F9 will give you the left bar, but it should be there for konqueror, the file manager06:01
MrSunshineit sucks 90% of my cpu :>06:01
KarnaK81Hey! could someone tell me how i can fing drivers for my soundblaster audigy 4?? im new on Linux06:01
KarnaK81find*06:01
arnieboyaaah thanks a lot hugelmopf F9 did it.. but it was not turned on by default06:01
arnieboyhow come they dont have this option anywhere in settings?06:02
hugelmopfarnieboy: you can configure the filemanager to your needs and the save the profile.06:02
hugelmopf*then06:02
_nano_brb06:02
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arnieboyi cudnt find this option anywhere in konqueror settings06:02
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hugelmopfthis is not part of the settings, but part of the view profile, you should find it under "Window" i believe06:04
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hugelmopfKarnaK81: what is the output of "lsmod | grep emu10k1" ?06:06
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KarnaK81hugelmopf: i only get soundcard unknown when type lsmod -s06:07
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hugelmopfKarnaK81: "lsmod" does not have the option "-s", as far as i know. the module for your soundcard should be called something like "snd-emu10k1" and be loaded automatically. does the soundcard not work?06:09
deFryskKarnaK81, do you use or have a build in soundchip in your mobo ?06:09
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Delvienjpatrick i cant find a install package for KXdocker, i removed old one ( was corrupt i think, ) and when i downloadd it from XIA project and install it it doesnt install (unpacking kxdocker, setting up Kxdocker) then when i try to run it it says there is no such command06:09
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jpatrickDelvien: the package I did is in Dapper06:10
jpatrickawaiting backport06:10
KarnaK81deFrysk: i have a built in, but i disabled it when i got my audigy 4 PCI06:10
Delvienjpatrick do you find KXdocker to be laggy?06:11
deFryskKarnaK81, also disabled in your bios ?06:11
jpatrickDelvien: yeah06:11
KarnaK81deFrysk: yes06:11
deFryskok06:11
KarnaK81hugelmopf: no the sound doesnt work at all06:11
hugelmopfKarnaK81: could you give me the output that i asked you earlier for?06:11
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ilba7rdo i need to add a repos to install kde 3.506:12
deFryskilba7r, yes06:13
ilba7ri do not see it in the header of the room06:13
ilba7rso what is the repos than06:13
deFryskdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main06:13
deFryskdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.7 breezy main06:13
deFryskdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice142 breezy mai06:13
deFrysk+n06:13
MrSunshineone good thing about ubuntu .. not that much fuss getting it installed. .all tho i kinda messed up my disks because of a corrupted cd :P06:13
hugelmopfilba7r: in the header there is a  link, where you can find the repo.06:13
ilba7rthanx06:14
Delvienis it worth the trouble for 3.5?06:14
deFryskilba7r, instead of kde-latest you can also use kde3.506:14
deFryskDelvien, depends on your bandwith06:15
ilba7rthanx again i just added them to the sources list06:15
DelviendeFrysk what do you mean?06:15
T3hWiz0rdamerica is so focused on deluded reality that even the real world here has become a cheesey sequel. Hello "Vietnam II: War in the Desert." staring George Wya06:15
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deFryskDelvien, if you have a fast connection its a breeze06:16
deFryskat least it was for me that is06:16
Delviendefrysk aye i do06:16
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DelvienHow do i get a puglik key?06:16
ilba7rso which is better installing kde or kubuntu if there is a diff?06:17
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DelviendeFrysk http://pastebin.com/46799706:17
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jpatrickDelvien: Use KGpg06:17
deFryskilba7r, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php06:18
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ilba7rthanx again06:18
deFryskand for more ; http://kubuntu.org/announcements/06:18
Delvienjpatrick how do i do that?06:19
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kakeiamigos06:19
kakeiestoy en kde :D06:19
jpatrickDelvien: install it06:19
jpatrickand generate a key06:19
jpatrickkakei: woohoo06:19
Delvienjpatrick its not in adept06:20
kakeijpatrick i typed wrong the channel hehe06:20
jpatrickDelvien: I think it's in universe06:20
Delvienjpatrick hmm didnt see it06:20
ilba7rinstalling now06:20
jpatrickapt-cache show kgpg06:20
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deFryskilba7r, good luck :)06:21
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Delvienjpatrick Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? ???06:21
Delvienyes or no?06:21
jpatrickY06:22
deFryskDelvien, wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg06:22
deFryskDelvien, sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg06:22
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deFryskDelvien, to get rid of the verification question06:23
Delviengpg: no ultimately trusted keys found06:23
Delviengot it06:24
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Delviennow just search for kde3.5?06:24
deFrysksudo apt-get update06:24
deFrysksudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:25
deFryskand if you do not have kde06:25
T3hWiz0rdmmm dist-upgrade06:25
deFrysksudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:25
T3hWiz0rddeFrysk: can you do both on ubuntu?06:26
DelvienWhat graphical upgrades does 3.5 pose?06:26
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deFryskT3hWiz0rd, sure06:26
T3hWiz0rddeFrysk: though i don't see a use for gnome, i never use it lol06:27
deFryskand also xubuntu-desktop06:27
deFryskall 3 if you wish06:27
T3hWiz0rdxfce?06:27
deFryskyup06:27
Delvieni use gnome for wireless connectivity , because KDE has huge problems with wireless AP switching06:27
deFryskgnome is pretty good actually06:27
deFryskas good as kde06:28
DelviendeFrysk does 3.5 have any graphical upgrades?06:28
deFryskits just a matter of preference06:28
deFryskDelvien, not too many06:28
deFryskits just 'improved' kde06:28
Delvienonly reason i dont use gnome is because i cant use Konqueror as my main file browser and stuff, its difficult switching back to a much more user friendly De06:29
T3hWiz0rddeFrysk: its probably a stability upgrade before a graphical eh?06:29
deFryskT3hWiz0rd, yup06:29
ilba7rlol only reason i use gnome is nautilus. I just love emblements and do not know how to work without them06:29
Delvien3.5 have transparency for window borders built in yet?06:29
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Delvienemlblements? what do you mean ?06:30
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T3hWiz0rdmy birthday is monday, booyah06:30
DelviendeFrysk aye me too but nauti is missing a Address bar (without having to hit alt L  or w/e )06:30
deFryskDelvien, I am not too much into transparency06:30
jahshuaok everyone im about to boot into kubuntu for my first time06:30
jahshuawish me luck :)06:30
Delviengood luck06:31
ilba7rits a graphical way to mark your {files important, not so important, final } and so on06:31
T3hWiz0rdjahshua: may god protect you from the fork bombs06:31
deFryskjahshua, see you back next week ;p06:31
T3hWiz0rdilba7r: so kinda like OS X's "folder markers"?06:31
Delvieni found gnome to be more like Mac osx and kde more like windows06:32
ilba7rT2hWizord did not use os actually06:32
DelvienKDE has alot more develpoment user side too06:32
ilba7rnow for my first test drive of the new kde06:32
Riddelljahshua: good luck06:32
ilba7rwill log in again from kdesktop take care all06:32
T3hWiz0rdi wouldn't really compare gnome to aqua06:33
Delvienaqua?06:33
T3hWiz0rdaqua is simple and easy to use... but its not laid out like crap06:33
T3hWiz0rdgnome is laid out like crap lol06:33
T3hWiz0rdaqua is os x's gui06:33
Delvieno06:34
DelvienIm not a mac guy06:34
T3hWiz0rdword had it that aqua and quartz extreme may be headed to linux and windows06:34
T3hWiz0rdif so, fricking awesome06:34
Delvienno thanks :)06:34
T3hWiz0rdit would dominate gnome in a day06:34
T3hWiz0rddon't think it would be there to compete with kde though06:35
T3hWiz0rdim feeling like fatty food06:35
T3hWiz0rdits time for TAXO BELLZOR06:35
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ilba7ri guess i used gnome for too long now06:36
hyperactivecrondi just apt-get 'ed kubuntu-desktop and no system notifications will play for kde06:36
Delvieni tried to use enlightenment .. and omg was that a stupid Desktop environment06:36
ilba7ri used to work on kde but its soo different now am not used to those large fonts lol06:36
DelvienXFCE wasnt bad, but too much like gnome06:36
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ilba7rmy main wm is enlightenment actually. I am just testing kde on an old pc06:37
Delvieni might have to make the switch back to gnome if KDE 4 doesnt turn out good enough with the fixes06:37
hyperactivecronderr nvm06:37
hyperactivecrond!kde3.506:37
Delvienwireless in KDE switching APs are IMPOSSIBLE06:37
ubotuI guess kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php06:37
Delviengnome , a couple clicks and its done06:37
hyperactivecrondDelvien, then use gnome.06:37
Delvieni been using KDE for a long time now , and i like it , despite its downfalls06:38
jpatrickDelvien: but I won't stop Linus bashing you06:38
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jpatrick;)06:38
ilba7rhaha06:38
Delvieni am too defrysk06:38
ilba7rits just the colurs are soo lol my eyes hearts06:38
Delvienjpatrick what?06:39
hyperactivecrondhmm maybe kde should be set to automagically use alsa by default b/c it won't play other sounds if it doesn't06:39
jpatrickDelvien: haven't you heard the news?06:39
Delvienno06:39
MrSunshinehow would you go about changing the brightness of the screen in kde?06:40
MrSunshinemy monitor is very dark :>06:40
hyperactivecrondarrgh how does one install 3.5?06:40
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Delvienjpatrick whats the news?06:40
Delviensudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:40
hyperactivecrond:P06:40
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GreKomhelp please06:40
hyperactivecrondwhat grekom?06:40
GreKomI messed my Kubuntu06:41
Delvienjpatrick brb gotta reboot , tell me when i get back06:41
hyperactivecrondgrekom: what about it06:41
GreKomwont start, starts modules, and hangs at starting system log daemon06:41
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GreKom11-unix:read-only file system06:42
hyperactivecrond:\   what did you do?06:42
GreKomI tried to install an 160 Gb HDD06:42
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ffeeddeehi!!06:43
hyperactivecrondgreKom: check your fstab?06:43
hyperactivecrondhi ffeeddee06:43
GreKomfstab?06:43
GreKomplease wait, till it starts the command line06:43
ffeeddeedoes someone have epson epl6200l printer??06:43
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ilba7rhyperactive try firefox 1.506:44
ilba7ri find it stable enough so far and all you need is just untar it in a dir06:44
hyperactivecrond:06:44
hyperactivecrond:\ why don't we have this as a deb yet?06:45
ilba7rbut most of the time i prefer opera though lol06:45
ilba7rhyperactive it will cause a lot of conflicts there is an article on it in distrowatch by the manager of the backports project06:45
hyperactivecrondthx ilba7r you made me check my version # lol06:45
hyperactivecrondi'll just uninstall  the old firefox, no?06:46
ilba7rthey work side by side06:46
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hyperactivecrondah06:46
ilba7rand frankly no need to uninstall it might cause some dependency problems and for you to uninustall more packages than wht you want06:46
ilba7ryou have 1.07 right06:46
hyperactivecrondyes ilba7r06:47
GreKomhyperactivecrond, ok runs now06:47
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hyperactivecrondcool GreKom06:47
GreKomhow to check fstab?06:47
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Delviendamn got rid of all my custom stuff for KDM06:47
hyperactivecrondless /etc/fstab06:47
MrSunshinebah06:47
GreKomhyperactivecrond, I meant command mode ;)06:47
MrSunshinenow im starting to get angry06:47
MrSunshinekde just wont let you do what you want06:47
ilba7rall i did is just download from the official site. Untar, have symbolic link and they both work great06:47
hyperactivecrondgrekom ?06:47
MrSunshinei NEED 75hz in 1152xwhatever ... and do i get to select that display mode?06:48
MrSunshineNOOO06:48
jpatrickDelvien: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/167706:48
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hyperactivecrondilba7r, where does one symlink?06:48
MrSunshineive been sitter here with 60hz. . no wounder my eyes started to get strained :/06:48
ilba7ri did it in my home dir.06:48
hyperactivecrondMrSunshine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:48
ilba7rif you are not the only one using the pc than you need to have system wide symlink06:48
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hyperactivecrondhow does one make a ubuntu-based distro...?06:49
ilba7rso basically in the path most of the time at /usr/bin06:49
GreKomhyperactivecrond, does it fix it, or just shows anything?06:49
hyperactivecrondmodify the packages i assume06:49
hyperactivecrondand grekom: shows06:49
GreKomhyperactivecrond, what do U need to know, or should I retype ewerything?06:50
ilba7rok take care all will leave now06:50
hyperactivecrondGreKom, pastebin the errors if at all possible06:50
hyperactivecrondor /msg me06:50
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hyperactivecrondso i can pastebin it..06:50
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hyperactivecrondyay! firefox 1.5 is in dapper!06:51
MrSunshinestill wont let me have it me thinks06:52
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GreKomhyperactivecrond, well it says /dev/hda1/ ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 0106:52
GreKomhyperactivecrond, well it says /dev/hda5 none swap SW 0 006:52
hyperactivecrondgrekom: The errors06:52
jpatrickhyperactivecrond: it's been there for a while06:52
hyperactivecrondnot the fstab06:52
GreKomerr how to exit fstab?06:53
MrSunshineseems kde wants to set its own screen settings06:53
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hyperactivecrond^x06:53
GreKomI am total newbee06:53
hyperactivecrond^^ frekom06:53
hyperactivecrondgrekom*06:53
MrSunshineand totaly disregards the ones in xorg.conf06:53
hyperactivecrondctrl-x06:53
hyperactivecrondMrSushine: System Settings06:53
GreKomjust gives me the keyboard reading06:54
ilba7rGrekom can you use the pastebin to display the content of your fstab and mtab files found at /etc/06:54
MrSunshinesystem settings let me set one moide .. 1152x8something in 55!!! hz06:54
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GreKomhmmm, my problem is, I am chatting at another machine06:56
ilba7rgrekom i just assume you have used the wrong mount options06:57
ilba7rthats why i need to see those files06:57
ilba7rdo you have two hard disks06:57
GreKomyes06:57
ilba7rok do you have two dev /dev/hda and /dev/hdb06:58
ilba7rare they sata drives?06:58
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GreKomthe 160 Gb is SATA06:58
dvasquezhello greetings06:58
dvasquezcan anyone help me with my usb pendrive?06:58
dvasquezi cant mount it06:58
ilba7rthe other is ide right06:58
GreKomilba7r, yes06:58
ilba7rok can you open the /dev directory06:58
GreKomi did it06:58
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ilba7rand see if you have /dev/sda and /dev/hda06:59
ilba7ruse ls /dev/hd*06:59
ilba7ruse ls /dev/sd*06:59
GreKom/dev/sda does not exists06:59
dvasquezyes i have /dev/sda06:59
GreKomthere are hda hda1 hda2 hda5 hdd hdf hdf107:00
dvasquezbut when i try to mount it in the terminal it says "no medium found"07:00
MrSunshineargh .. someone tell me how the heck i can make kde let me choose whatever hz i want for my monitor :/07:00
GreKomdvasquez, I mean, it does not exist on my machine ;)07:00
ilba7rhda1 hda2 and so on are the partitions07:00
MrSunshineits like 60hz under what it can handle on ALL the modes07:00
dvasquezah ok :-)07:00
ilba7rhdf is for floopy07:00
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ilba7rok try ls /dev/hdb*07:00
MrSunshine55 and 60hz is the choices i have07:01
MrSunshineboth hur my eyes badly07:01
T3hWiz0rdhi07:01
GreKomilba7r, found nothing07:01
dvasqueztheres hdb107:01
ilba7rgrekom do not know why but your harddisk is not defined07:01
ilba7rdid you check the bios to see if your pc see it07:01
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GreKomilba7r, the problem is, the 160 Gb HDD was formerly NTFS07:02
dvasquezthis is my fstab command /dev/sda /media/usb auto defaults,rw,users07:02
GreKomilba7r, yhe SATA card recognises it07:02
ilba7rdvasquez can you state yoru prob again07:02
ilba7rgrekom so the bios see both harddisks07:02
GreKomilba7r, yes07:02
dvasquezwhen i try to mount it says it cant determine the filesystem and none has been specified07:03
luorsDHGE: thanks for your help!  i find that "fc-list" can also list fonts07:03
dvasquezmy fstab line is "/dev/sda /media/usb auto defaults,rw,users"07:03
ilba7rdvasquez is your sata drive composed of just one partition07:03
dvasquezno i have a windows partition too07:03
GreKomilba7r, I think I did something wrong, als I assigned it in KDE07:03
dvasquezthe pendrive works in windows07:03
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GreKomilba7r, probably mount point... I set it to /07:03
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ilba7rgrekom that is why i need the fstab07:04
ilba7rdbasquez do you have drive /sda107:04
GreKomI can retype it if U want07:04
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ilba7rdbasquez do you have device /dev/sda107:04
GreKomjust give me the command line to read it07:04
ilba7rgrekom use the pastebin for that07:04
dvasquezilba7r no theres just sda07:05
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ilba7rcat /etc/fstab07:05
GreKomilba7r, i typed pastebin, does not exist07:05
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ilba7rgrekom look at the top of the room07:05
ilba7rthere is a link to pastebin07:05
os2macrunning Dapper... and keep getting this in my term window07:06
ilba7rdvasquez it is windows partition right07:06
GreKomilba7r, at the time I can only run command line07:06
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dvasquezyes i have a windows partition hda1 ntfs07:06
dvasquezthe line in fstab for sda is "/dev/sda /media/usb auto defaults,rw,users "07:07
ilba7rdvasquez i mean the sda is it a window or linux partition what type of partition it is07:07
dvasquezshould work right?07:07
GreKomilba7r, I am chatting with U on second machine07:07
dvasquezah it is a fat32 partition07:07
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os2machttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46805107:07
os2machttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46805107:07
dvasquezdoesnt work with vfat though07:07
ilba7rdvasquez i think you need to specify it as window partiton07:07
ilba7rdvasquez yes vfat is for fat32 which you have07:08
GreKomilba7r, am I screwed up?07:08
ilba7rgrekom no07:08
ilba7rdo not worry07:09
dvasquezok thanx i'll experiment with that07:09
GreKomso what can I do?07:09
ilba7rjust give me a min07:09
ilba7rdvasquez look at the unofficial guide in the documentation07:09
ilba7ri am afraid i am not using my pc that is why i can not give you the link now07:09
ilba7rsearch for it at ubuntu site07:09
dvasquezok thanx anyway ilba7r07:10
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ilba7rgrekom i am afraid i have to reboot will be back07:13
T3hWiz0rd:-D07:13
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GreKomilba7r, welcome back07:22
ilba7rhow are you doing now grekom07:23
GreKomstill same07:23
ilba7rfirst i really do not know why you do not have the /dev/sda07:23
ilba7rthis is really strange and i can not help you there07:23
ilba7rfor the mounting problem it is simple you might have mounted the two harddisks to the same place07:24
GreKomilba7r, is there a backup of fstab?07:24
ilba7ryou can correct that in the fstab07:24
ilba7rthen type sudo mount -a07:24
ilba7rgrekom did you change fstab07:24
GreKomilba7r, no, I mena, the KDE changed it07:24
ilba7rtype ls /etc/fstab*07:24
GreKomit found only one :(07:25
ilba7rthan there is no backup for it07:25
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GreKomcan I somehow edit fsatb in command?07:25
ilba7ron the pc you are on now type go to this webpage http://kubuntu.pastebin.com07:25
ilba7rthan type in the contents of your fstab file07:26
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GreKomilba7r, and then?07:26
ilba7ri will try to find your problem in the fstab file07:27
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GreKomilba7r, I think it uses /dev/hdf1 for my second drive07:28
ilba7rhdf is normally the floppy07:28
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slow-motionre07:30
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ilba7rok it might be your harddisk than07:31
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ilba7rok got to go now hope you find your solu07:32
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tobiDoes anyone know how to get the compiletime option qt is compiled with?07:33
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seanjhi peoples07:40
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ilba7ri remember that there was a way to have a better organized menu than the chaiotic default one07:49
ilba7ranyone remember if there is a package or do i just have to do it manually07:49
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jpgeeretshi folks07:51
jpgeeretsgood evening07:51
jpgeeretssomeone knnow something how to convert a dvd9 to dvd5?07:51
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yehoshuahehe07:59
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hugelmopfjpgeerets: e.g. k9copy08:01
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hugelmopfwhich should be available at this repository: deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy testing08:02
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Insomniac-anyone know why xorg is giving me a blank screen after starting? using onboard nvidia device, doesn't seem to matter whether i use the nv or nvidia driver, xorg logfile looks fine08:13
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BlueEagleinsomniac-: How are you starting xorg?08:19
Insomniac-kdm08:19
Insomniac-at boot08:19
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Insomniac-logfiles here http://bodylotion.student.utwente.nl/~insomniac/a64/08:20
BlueEagleinsomniac-: Are your monitors configured with a sync range that they cannot handle? (ie totally black screen)?08:20
Insomniac-maybe, it's a tft monitor though08:20
Insomniac-no sync ranges specified in the conf08:21
BlueEagleinsomniac-: My monitors are both configured with: Section "Monitor"  Identifier "Right Monitor"  Option "DPMS" EndSection08:21
BlueEagleinsomniac-: If the monitor supports DPMS that should be sufficient.08:22
Insomniac-the onboard nvidia has 2 outputs but i'm only using 108:22
BlueEagleinsomniac-: Still: Do you get a completely black screen?08:22
Insomniac-yes08:22
Insomniac-can't even switch back to console08:22
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Insomniac-good thing i installed openssh08:22
BlueEagleinsomniac-: I see. Have you tried specifying which screen it should use?08:23
Insomniac-no, i don't see which other screen it could possibly use08:23
BlueEagleinsomniac-: I can /msg you my config if you would like that.08:23
Insomniac-sure08:23
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jahshuawell08:26
jahshuai did it :)08:26
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_ec15.4 wxga 1280*800 horizontal and vertical frequencies?08:32
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hyperactivecrondthe older verisons worked better...08:38
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dragonkhis there something up with the ubuntu remote repository ? I keep getting time outs on apt08:42
dragonkhI mean it starts then drops out08:42
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cartesian1984can someone in here help me? i was banned from the ubuntu channel for no apparent reason09:04
Blissexcartesian1984: usually, just wait out your ban period...09:08
Blissexcartesian1984: and consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...09:09
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cartesian1984i wasn't asking any questions, i was trying to help a guy with vmware09:09
kangpehi can't install linspire clear - with kde 3.5 on kubuntu09:09
kangpeh:(09:09
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Chairman_WowI want to add a protocol handler for lastfm to konqueror. I've got a lastfm.protocol file. Where do I store it?09:10
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jahshuai just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?09:13
Blissexcartesian1984: uhmmmm, VMware is proprietary AND not totally Ubuntu related, still a ban is excessive.09:14
BlissexChairman_Wow: try 'locate .protocol' to see where all '.protocol' files are...09:15
[miles] Blissex: evening... where'nt you a SuSE'er ?09:15
cartesian1984Blissex: I advised him to ask in the vmware channel, but he said they were all afk09:15
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Knowerrorsanybody using firefox 1.5?09:16
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BlissexKnowerrors: according to claims by Mozilla.org, several million people use Firefox 1.5 already, so yes.09:17
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KnowerrorsHehe, I meant somebody in this chat09:18
Knowerrorson Kubuntu09:18
KnowerrorsI think you knew I meant that though09:18
ajeetHello, I've just finished installing kubuntu after doing an ubuntu-server, I've just finished upgrading to KDE 3.5... But I'm wondering why after re-starting I didn't the KDE launch welcome, where it let's you setup internationalization and graphical stuff?09:19
Chairman_WowBlissex: will do thanks09:20
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Blissexajeet: because you already run a previous version of KDE for that user... There is some kind of flat file you can remove or just run the ''first time'' app again. It has a fairly obvious name, but ask in #KDE, or just use the settings09:21
Tm_Tkpersonalizer09:23
Tm_Tbah, too late09:24
Knowerrors"/usr/bin/kpersonalizer"09:24
Tm_Tjust kpersonalizer09:24
Tm_Twho cares about its path ;)09:24
slow-motionbbl09:24
Knowerrorshehe, they left anyway, too bad09:25
KnowerrorsCan anyone help with this http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2259.0 ? please09:26
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Voodoo_VibeHey! can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??09:38
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teknoprepuse windows09:39
Voodoo_VibeNo,Thanx09:39
jahshuai just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?09:39
ajeetHello, from a fresh install of Kubuntu, just installed Firefox, but it's all grey and win95-esque, I know FF is a GTK app, but I've seen in other KDE distros looking normal, how do I do that on Kubuntu?09:39
teknopreplol09:39
teknoprepwow 2 ppl with the same problem w0ot09:40
jahshuano its my desktop wallpaper09:40
Voodoo_VibeI dont like to chase viruses and spyware all day09:40
jahshua:p09:40
jahshuaits resized09:40
ajeetNo, not really, my problem is totally different...09:40
jahshuawith a black border at the top and the right09:40
teknoprepVoodoo_Vibe you could learn to setup windows correctly09:40
Voodoo_Vibeteknoprep: i dont have windows09:41
teknoprepVoodoo_Vibe it helps in the world when applying for getting ajob09:41
Voodoo_Vibeteknojob: why r u in this channel if u love windows so much?09:42
Knowerrorsajeet: to your question about kde from the post before you left, type kpersonalizer at the konsole09:42
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jahshuaanyone>09:43
jahshua?09:43
jahshuai just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?09:43
Knowerrorsajeet: to get your FF to look like the rest of kde, type kcontrol, go to appearance, go to gtk looknfeel, and set to look and have fonts same as kde09:43
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Voodoo_VibeCan anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??09:44
ajeetKnowerrors: Thanks, but I've just worked it out from the forums!09:44
Knowerrorsgood job :)09:45
Insomniac-http://bodylotion.student.utwente.nl/~insomniac/a64/problem.html < i can't seem to get my integrated nvidia video working, can anyone help?09:45
ajeetAlso probably a minor problem, but when I maximise any anything in Kubuntu, I notice it doesn't have the blue border around the program thing, it sort of hides behind the panel, why is this?09:47
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ajeet?09:51
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Voodoo_VibeHey! can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??09:52
Knowerrorsajeet: "program thing" what do ya mean?09:53
ajeetthe window border of any program09:53
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waspius+reg09:57
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Knowerrorsajeet: so you don't have a window border when maximized?09:58
bam_whats a good backup/compression tool for my home dir?09:59
bam_besides making a script10:00
bam_and gzip/tarballing it10:00
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KnowerrorsHey all, can some help with this, I installed Firefox 1.5 using the Arnieboy installer script, but when I run FF, it crashes, heres what I get at terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5859 ?10:02
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crimsunplease don't use arnieboy's script10:03
svennabend10:03
crimsunthere's an easybreezy10:03
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Snake__Is it possible to get my kubuntu laptop to reconize my windows server??10:04
svensince upgrading to kde 3.5 i've an enoying problem watching videos10:05
Knowerrorscrimsun: "easybreezy" whats that?  and what do I do now that Ive already used his script?10:05
crimsunKnowerrors: why didn't you just use Adept to install firefox?10:06
Knowerrors1.5 isn't in the repos, as far as I know10:07
sveninstead of playing the video directly, it is copied completly to tmp before playing10:07
KnowerrorsI was using 1.07, and wanted to upgrade for the better speed10:07
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Kovecsesanyone here using kde 3.5?10:07
crimsunKnowerrors: it's in Dapper, dunno if it has been backported to Breezy yet10:07
svenKovecses: yes10:08
Kovecseshow does it run?10:08
Knowerrorscrimsun: hmm, so if Im using breezy, is it ok to open up the Dapper repos just to get Firefox, then close em?10:08
crimsunKnowerrors: no10:08
svenKovecses: great, with one enoying thimg ^^10:09
Knowerrorswell, then the only way to get FF 1.5 for Breezy is manual way10:09
Snake__help? please? Lol10:09
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Kovecsessven: whats that?10:09
svenwhen you watch a video, it is copied completly to tmp before playing10:10
crimsunKnowerrors: you can beg the backports people to backport it10:10
Knowerrorscrimsun: Ive heard it won't be backported, because too many programs in Gnome are interlocked with FF10:11
Snake__Speaking of 1.5...how come my firefox 1.0.7 hasn't nagged me to upgrade yet??10:11
Kovecsescuz 1.5 sucks10:12
Kovecsesj/k10:12
crimsunSnake__: because we don't handle upgrades that way10:13
Snake__I was talking about my windows version :)10:13
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Snake__ARGH!! I think I need to reburn this kubuntu disk....bootstrap.log can't be found10:14
Voodoo_Vibecan someone help me get my soundblaster audigy 4 working??10:14
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xIlluwhen i tryt to run kwrite it says kwrite: cannot connect to x server.. how do i fix that?10:16
xIlluit worked yesterday10:16
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svennoone knows something about that copy problem?10:17
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hunikaHello who can help me? I can not play mp3 but I have w32codecs and xine engine too10:20
hunikasolution?????????10:20
hunikapls help10:20
hunikame10:20
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Voodoo_Vibecan someone help me get my soundblaster audigy 4 working??10:20
wasp_emshi...does anyone know how i can access my mp3 player through the usb??i put it in and an error comes up saying10:20
wasp_emsAn error occurred while loading media:/sda1:10:20
wasp_emsThe file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.10:20
KnowerrorsAnyone have a link for a FF 1.5 deb for breezy?10:20
Voodoo_VibeMy lsmod   http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46824910:20
hunikaLjL: can you help me?10:21
wasp_emsanyone?10:21
wasp_emsnalioth: can u hep?10:21
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naliothwasp_ems: type "man  mount"10:23
hunikahelp me10:23
hunikaI can not play mp310:23
hunikawith kaffeine or amarok10:23
hunikaI have installed w32 codecs10:23
hunikaand xine engine too10:23
hunikabut I can not play10:24
RealMurphyhunika: what for?10:24
Voodoo_Vibeget xmms10:24
hunikaI have xmms10:24
hunikabut I like amarok10:24
naliothhunika: w32codecs are useless for mp310:24
nalioth!tell hunika about mp310:24
hunikaanyway10:24
RealMurphyis the sound muted or the input set to pcm (IIRC?)10:24
svenKnowerrors: Just Download it from their site and unpack it to /opt10:24
hunikaI have enabled universe multiuniverse10:24
naliothhunika: read your info from ubotu10:24
hunikabut I can not play mp310:24
hunikaok10:24
hunikaok10:24
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Voodoo_Vibecan someone help me get my soundblaster audigy 4 working??10:25
Knowerrorssven: then you have to manually install all the multimedia stuff, like mplayer plug, java, flash, right?10:25
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RealMurphyVoodoo_Vibe: What's the problem?10:25
RealMurphyDoes the kernel detect it corretly?10:25
hunikanalioth: I have read and I have made it10:26
hunikabut still does not works10:26
hunikaand I can not get an error message10:26
Voodoo_VibeRealMurphy: im new to linux and i cant get any sound. i downloaded alsa-base and alsa-utils10:26
RealMurphyhunika: open kmix check that the volume is not muted, the input chould be set to pcm and all sliders should be in the middle, check also the cabeling10:26
hunikano the volume is not muted the player simply does not plays10:27
RealMurphyVoodoo_Vibe: First step is to make sure the kernel detects it. open a root window and do lspci -v and see if it's listed there10:27
RealMurphyhunika: if you try to play it does not do anything or is the slider for the track moving?10:27
hunikait does not doo anything10:28
Voodoo_VibeRealMurphy: found this.  Creative Labs: Unknown device 000810:28
svenKnowerrors: http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20051025_using_firefox_15_with_ubuntu_510_quick_howto.phtml10:28
RealMurphyVoodoo_Vibe: looks partly good ;)10:28
Voodoo_VibeRealMurphy: yeah10:29
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nalioth!firefox1510:29
ubotuI heard firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org10:29
bam_firefox=slow, try opera10:29
svenKnowerrors: all the Plugins are in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/10:30
hunikaRealMurphy: Any opinion, recomendation10:30
RealMurphyVoodoo_Vibe: try this, but I dunno if that's going to help you: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15491810:30
svenKnowerrors: Complete Howto at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html10:31
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RealMurphyhunika: nothig directly, I think a complete strace would be overkill10:31
Knowerrorssven: thx, will read10:32
slow-motionre10:32
RealMurphyhunika: does smms work?10:32
hunikaRealMurphy: what is that? I am new in Linux10:32
hunikaRealMurphy: I can play mp3 with xmms10:32
RealMurphyhunika: never mind, strace is a low level thing which tells you which files are accessed and mcuh more10:32
RealMurphyhunika: ok, that's a good starting point10:32
RealMurphywhich version of amarok?10:32
Voodoo_VibeRealMurphy: Thanx! so its the emu10k1 file i should have to get it working?10:33
hunikaAnother thing is10:33
hunikathat I can see the movie at kaffeine but I can not hear any sound10:33
hunikabut xmms wokr10:33
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RealMurphyVoodoo_Vibe: I guess so, if that's the name of the kernel module the make sure its loaded proberly via lsmod10:33
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RealMurphyhunika: weird....10:33
crimsundon't load emu10k1.10:33
crimsunthat's the OSS/Free driver, which will cause you headaches if you're trying to use ALSA.10:34
svenhunika: you need at least gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support10:34
RealMurphycrimsun: thanks for helping me out, I never hat an audigy and was just guessing10:34
Voodoo_VibeRealMurphy: ok didnt get much of that beacause im new. but i will keep looking and try to get it and install. Thanx10:34
hunikasven: I had kubuntu and I need xine engine to play anithing, but I have reinstalled my system and now does not works10:35
crimsunRealMurphy: which model? lspci -v|grep -i audio10:35
hunikaRealMurphy: Any ideas?10:36
RealMurphyI also have a quesion: What is the recommended path to persue if I want to use kpilot, but the underlying library from pilot-link barfs half-way through a hotsync.. notify the debian maintainer and hope kpilot gets repackaged with an updated lib?10:36
RealMurphycrimsun: Voodoo_Vibe has an Audigy 410:36
RealMurphyhunika: not really, have you checked sven's suggestion?10:36
crimsunVoodoo_Vibe: are you in Kubuntu currently?10:37
hunikaRealMurphy: yes10:37
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RealMurphyhunika: right now I'm already runniong out of options.. it's weird that amarok does not emit any warning10:38
hunikai will check again now10:38
hunikait does not10:39
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hunikaMaybe I should try to reinstall amarok and kaffeine10:39
hunika?10:39
hunika???????????????10:39
hunika?????????/10:39
svenhunika: no that won't help10:40
hunikasven: IDEA??????????????10:40
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trappistwhere is media:/hdc supposed to be? it complains that it doesn't exist when I insert a dvd into hdc.  an strace shows that it's searching my $PATH for a file called 'media:/hdc'.  is this just broken?10:41
svenhunika: get gstreamer0.8-plugins like faac, faad, lame and also xvid, ffmpeg10:41
Voodoovrimsun: sorry got disconnected10:41
Voodoocrimsun: what shall i use instead?10:41
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hunikasven: Help me how can I do that? i am new in linux10:41
crimsunVoodoo_Vibe: are you in Kubuntu currently?10:41
Voodoo_Vibecrimsun: yes10:42
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Voodoo_Vibecrimsun: thats all i got10:42
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crimsunVoodoo_Vibe: cat /proc/asound/cards10:42
svenhunika: Under System you have Adept With that you can install other software10:42
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hunikasven: I know10:43
hunikasven: there how should I search for it10:43
hunika?10:43
svenhunika: gstreamer10:43
Voodoo_Vibecrimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/46830210:43
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crimsunVoodoo_Vibe: ok, sec, kinda busy atm10:44
vicks!tell vicks about multiverse10:44
Voodoo_Vibecrimsun: ok, take youre time10:44
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EruantalonHow do I make Kubuntu/arts use my other soundcard?10:44
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EruantalonThere is this: "Override device location" But it says nothing of with what!?10:45
Eruantalonshould be something like /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp1 because it tells me that there is no such thing.10:46
Eruantalonshould it*10:46
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ninnghizidhahey!10:49
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xIlluohh a wiener :P10:49
ninnghizidharecht haste :-)10:50
xIllu:)10:50
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xIllu:)10:51
ninnghizidha... generell mit KDE eigentlich ... aber bin sehr zufrieden bis jetzt.10:53
xIlluich versuch seit 2 tagen die wlan karte zum laufen zu bringen :)10:53
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ninnghizidha... sollten die seit breezy nicht sehr gut untersttzt werden?10:54
xIllunicht bei mir :P10:55
ninnghizidhawird noch, bin ich mir sicher :-)10:55
xIlluheh.. ich nicht so wirklich :)..10:55
jahshuai just installed kubuntu and im suffering from serious lag10:56
jahshuaany ideas? ?10:56
jahshuathis is my first install =] 10:56
xIlluwhat kind of lag?10:56
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xIllusystem too slow?10:56
jahshua20 seconds10:56
jahshuasystem seems ok10:56
jahshuairc lag10:56
shmoolikhello10:56
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xIlluoh10:57
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jahshuai have jumped servers etc10:57
jahshuaefnet10:57
jahshuaso its not that10:57
xIlluur isp maybe?10:57
jahshuanah10:57
jahshuaits never like that on xp10:57
jahshuawhich is what i used to use10:57
jahshuaabout 2 hours ago =] 10:57
jahshuaheh10:57
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M_Cheevymorning ppls10:58
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Voodoo_VibeM_Cheevy: Morning!10:58
M_Cheevywelp, just did the upgrade to kde3.5  should I be concerned that "Login Screen Setup" application doesn't work anymore (maybe because it's gdmsetup and I'm now using kdm?)11:00
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M_Cheevyother than that one hiccup, all seems to have gone well...11:00
hunikacan I have winamp for linux a new version11:01
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hunikanot like xmms11:01
hunikait is a bit ild11:01
hunikaold11:01
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hunikasomething new like winamp11:01
M_Cheevyhunika: there is a winamp for linux?11:02
hunikait is??????????????11:02
hunikawhere/11:02
hunika???????????11:02
hunikait is downloadable11:02
hunika?11:02
M_Cheevyhunika: sorry, misunderstood...11:02
M_Cheevyenglish a second language for ya?   "it is" makes a statement "is it" makes a question11:03
M_Cheevysorry, still working on my first cuppa coffee11:03
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ninnghizidhaoh .. coffee ... i want a cup of it too.11:05
M_Cheevyninnghizidha: good Kenya AA... come to auckland and I'll pour ya a cup ;)11:05
M_CheevyKenya AA and the Graceland concert on DVD... god Narobi would be nice for an hour or two today.....11:06
M_Cheevy(so I just got dvd playback working :) )11:06
naliothhunika: xmms = winamp11:07
M_Cheevyonly problem is now that everything is stable I only have 120mb left on my 3gb cap for the month11:07
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ninnghizidhatoo late for coffee, guys.11:09
M_Cheevyninnghizidha: hahaha ;) just don't try to make a custom kernel after drinking that ;)11:09
ninnghizidha... but i guess i'd have lots of fun while compiling.11:10
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M_Cheevyso, is there an equivlant program to gdmsetup for kdm?11:10
M_Cheevyninnghizidha: yeah, but some of the kernel config choices might be a bit garbled ;)11:11
bam_anyone knwo if korganizer can sync with a remote ical file11:11
ninnghizidha... like they are now ....11:11
M_Cheevyand wine would help?11:11
ninnghizidha... no ...11:12
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ninnghizidha... quite delicious wine ....11:12
Voodoo_Vibeis there any program like daemon-tools on Windows for Linux??11:13
M_Cheevyenjoy ninnghizidha, seeing as how I woke up not too long ago I'll refrain11:13
mmport81what does daemon-tools do?11:13
ninnghizidhawhat does the daemone-tool do?11:13
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Voodoo_Vibemount an image file11:13
M_Cheevybbiab11:14
ninnghizidhai guess this is possible with internal tools, mmport8111:14
ninnghizidha... look for loopback-devices, mmport8111:14
mmport81ninnghizidha: yeh maybe, no idea - never tried b411:14
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shmoolikhello11:15
shmoolikdoes any one here used koffice ?11:15
ninnghizidhawell ... i know this is possible .. but i dont know how .. tjust search the forums for loopback, i'km sure you will find a way.11:15
ninnghizidhaare there any kde-icons-sets with a low eyecancer-risk out there too?11:16
mmport81mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/isotest -o loop11:16
mmport81possibly?11:16
mmport81oops no11:16
ninnghizidhasounds good ... just try it :-)11:16
mmport81that won't work...11:17
shmoolikninnghizidha: u mena likr 'highcontast' ?11:17
ninnghizidhano .. i mean without colors.11:17
mmport81well u could try something like that...11:17
shmoolikyeah then u mean 'highconrast'11:17
ninnghizidhahehe .. learning by trying.11:18
shmoolikwait i will give the package name ( its nice black and white icon set :] )11:18
ninnghizidhahehe ... no .. not really, shmoolik  ... something a bit for style at the cost of color.11:19
ninnghizidhai'm curious :-)11:19
shmoolikMonochrome ninnghizidha  thats the IconSetPakage11:19
ninnghizidhai'll try it .. give me a minute to try it out.11:19
shmoolik:]  o love this icon set :]  look real stylesh11:20
shmoolikstyleish *11:20
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ninnghizidhaoh .. i cant find it .. where shall i seek it?11:21
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shmoolikwait  i will give ya the deb pakage name11:22
shmooliktry kdeaetwork-theme-icon11:22
shmooliki think its in there11:23
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ninnghizidhagot it ... and found some themes too with it ... hooray!11:24
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shmoolik:[[11:24
ninnghizidhathanks a lot so far ... i'll post reactions as soon as possible11:24
shmoolik:] ] *11:24
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voicuAptitude doesn't let me install a package (glibc-2.3.2). What could be the problem? No errors, just that when I press '+' nothing happens11:25
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_nano_I'm getting a "composite failure" popup alert in kde whenever I logon, is there a way to remove that? I remember enabling transparency in the window behaviour settings, but i've disabled that now. and still the popup is not refusing to go. what seems to be the problem?11:27
ninnghizidhai got the same today ... but it vanished after disabling transparency.11:28
_nano_ninnghizidha: you disabled from the Kcontrol right?11:29
ninnghizidhathats right.11:31
_nano_Also I'm getting a lot of "An error occured while loading ....Unknown host" errors while using Konqueror for web browsing...any tweaks I could use to avoid that?11:31
ninnghizidhaat window-options ... something like that.11:31
_nano_!konqueror11:32
ubotu[konqueror]  the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org11:32
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ninnghizidhai guess, i'll stay with kde ... its is far more costumizable... i really like that11:36
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Snake__Hey, if I Download kubuntu off the site, will it have KDE 3.5??11:37
ninnghizidha.. but i cant find iconSetpackage ...11:38
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voicuright after i installed kde games, kynaptic or aptitude won't install anything... it says that the package 'locales' doesn't exist and when i want to install it (locales) nothing happens. what is going on?11:39
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voicui tried to download it and it doesn't want to replace it because it already exists11:40
_nano_voicu: try using apt-get, you can see the messages in that way and thus the problems11:41
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voicuthat's what i used... i got a message that said that those packages already exist11:42
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voicui should mention that when i installed kde games, kynaptic uninstalled some packages11:43
voicui uninstalled kde games but i can't put back those that kynaptic deleted11:43
_nano_you can use force install if you have the packgages downloaded11:45
_nano_!dpkg11:45
voicudo you know which flag should i use?11:45
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_nano_sudo apt-get --force-yes install  <packagename>11:47
voicuok, thanks11:47
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_nano_sudo apt-get -f install11:47
_nano_^^ shorter form11:47
ninnghizidhaDo you guys need firefox when there is konqueror too?11:48
_nano_ninnghizidha: konqueror still seems to have problems with plugings11:49
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_nano_*plugins11:49
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