[12:03] <Anakashar> usb1-1, usb disconnect, address, 2, new low speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 4, input, usb hid v1.00, gamepad, on usb-0000:00:04.2-1
[12:05] <osh_> nothing more?
[12:05] <Anakashar> that's all it says
[12:06] <osh_> Strange. I've never seen that before.
[12:07] <Anakashar> swapped the ports of my mouse and the gamepad, mouse still works, but dmesg still returns no /dev information
[12:07] <osh_> There really should be some more usb messages imho. Perhaps you need to load some gamepad kernel module?
[12:08] <Anakashar> if there is one.. let me check
[12:10] <osh_> Anakashar: xpad is the xbox pad driver... nothing like that?
[12:10] <Anakashar> it's a gravis gamepad
[12:10] <Anakashar> looks like a PSX controller
[12:11] <osh_> Anakashar: Something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravis_PC_GamePad
[12:11] <osh_> Anakashar: In there is also instructions on how to enable it.
[12:11] <Anakashar> though i have one of those, it's not one of those
[12:12] <Anakashar> but i'll try those instructions
[12:12] <osh_> Anakashar: Might be worth a shot. =)
[12:13] <Anakashar> let's see what happens
[12:14] <osh_> Anakashar: let me know if it works out for you.
[12:14] <Anakashar> alright
[12:18] <Niomi> xorg is using 39-45% CPU x_X
[12:19] <kangpeh> hey
[12:19] <kangpeh> how do i completely remove Gnome (but not all gtk programs)
[12:19] <kangpeh> i.e., i do want to keep gaim, evolution, gnucash, etc.
[12:20] <kangpeh> but i want to remove completely basically the rest of gnome
[12:20] <kangpeh> lol
[12:20] <kangpeh> cuz i have KDE now
[12:20] <kangpeh> and i love KDE :D
[12:20] <Niomi> i tend to favor gnome applications but use KDE as my window manager as well
[12:21] <Niomi> now, i am not sure about this, so ask someone who knows better, but you _might_ be able to get rid of gnome and leave gtk.. maybe?
[12:22] <kangpeh> niomi
[12:22] <kangpeh> how do i do that
[12:22] <kangpeh> o.o;;
[12:22] <Niomi> i have no idea
[12:25] <kangpeh> lol
[12:26] <Anakashar> osh_, nada
[12:27] <kangpeh> =)
[12:27] <Riddell> kangpeh: please remove that
[12:27] <kangpeh> Riddell:  But, he's right.
[12:27] <kangpeh> KDE is pretty awesome
[12:27] <kangpeh> i thought i had a slwo laptop
[12:27] <kangpeh> turns out i have a fast laptop
[12:28] <kangpeh> i just didnt know cuz i was using gnome for the past year
[12:28] <kangpeh> lol
[12:28] <aeon17x> kangpeh: good for you :)
[12:29] <kangpeh> :D
[12:29] <kangpeh> but
[12:29] <kangpeh> how do i remove gnome
[12:29] <kangpeh> o.o;
[12:29] <kangpeh> but maintain the gtk
[12:31] <kangpeh> in one apt-get remove cmd
[12:31] <kangpeh> lol
[12:33] <aeon17x> Just leave it there.
[12:34] <aeon17x> There's no easy way to remove them all >_>
[12:35] <jahshua> hey if i dl the install .iso file, will it partition my hd for me when i run it? im on xp right now.
[12:38] <Riddell> jahshua: it will
[12:39] <Riddell> jahshua: if you are resizing the partition make sure to defragment it first
[12:39] <Riddell> jahshua: then at the installer you can just change the size in Manual Partitioning
[12:40] <Riddell> or you can tell Kubuntu to just take over the whole hard disk
[12:44] <jahshua> Anakashar
[12:44] <jahshua>  d:\documents and settings\owner>chkdsk/f the type of file system is ntfs. cannot lock current drive. chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process. would you like to schedule this volume to be checked next time the system restarts? yes/no ??
[12:44] <cathal> how do you stop files loading up in konqueror, instead, in the standdard file maager for KDE?
[12:44] <jahshua> [23:40]  <nesta> thats what i got
[12:44] <jahshua> should i type yes or no
[12:50] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, type yes
[12:51] <seth_k|lappy> cathal, konqueror IS the standard KDE file manager
[12:52] <cathal> ok, gotta go find what i used last time i used KDE, it been a few years. Cheers seth
[12:55] <robotgeek> hey seth_k|lappy
[12:56] <seth_k|lappy> hiya robotgeek, I'm home for the holidays :)
[12:56] <seth_k|lappy> cathal, maybe krusader?
[12:56] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: finally finished all my univ work, can spend some time on ubuntu now :)
[12:56] <seth_k|lappy> :D that's how I feel
[12:57] <seth_k|lappy> it's rather pathetic when I'm excited about each one I guess :) I suppose the novelty will wear off
[01:03] <march> hi@all
[01:03] <robotgeek> hey march
[01:16] <DJ_Mer_> parents either need to get control of their children, put them on leashes, or straight out stop breeding
[01:51] <kakei> how do i stop Kde?
[01:52] <Anakashar> kakei, i use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:52] <elektronaut> alt+f2, type "kdesu /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[01:53] <elektronaut> i guess that worked
[01:53] <elektronaut> :)
[01:53] <Anakashar> heh
[01:54] <DJ_Mer_> I love you.
[02:15] <aeon17x> What is the character map for KDE called?
[02:16] <kakei> any one pls can help me with this : i have installed Nvidia Latest drivers http://pastebin.com/467351 but when i do glxgears i get a crappy result : http://pastebin.com/467359
[02:18] <toko123> cnt-alt-backspace
[02:25] <elektronaut> kakei: what does your xorg.conf look like?
[02:25] <kakei> http://pastebin.com/467372
[02:27] <elektronaut> did you try enabling renderaccel?
[02:27] <kakei> how do i do that?
[02:27] <elektronaut> http://pastebin.com/467375
[02:28] <kakei> what's that ur ?
[02:28] <elektronaut> that's my xorg.conf .. look at the first device section
[03:04] <march> gn8
[03:38] <AudioMove> anyone know anything about printers, take a look at this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104204. Rather than try explain my problem if anyone would take a look and has any more info post or reply here. thx
[03:38] <DJ_Mer_> Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a drooling retarded kid because he thought he was spitting at him.
[03:51] <xIllu> hi.. anyone know a solution ot a CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031 problem?
[03:52] <kakei> Hi guys , i have a big trouble i was configuring my nvidia driver and i decide to Reboot now i can't get into KDE i get a Anachronistic Fail or something like that
[03:58] <sproingie> Anachronistic Fail, eh?
[03:59] <sproingie> "Thine Hardware verily dost have a pox!"
[04:00] <DsM> are there any developers or head people around?
[04:00] <DsM> Riddell?
[04:01] <BlueEagle> dsm: kubuntu is not dead!
[04:01] <DsM> well noone is talking
[04:01] <sproingie> it's pining for the fjords!
[04:02] <BlueEagle> dsm: Well you asked a question and the lack of response indicate that there are no developers here.
[04:02] <BlueEagle> dsm: If you have got any questions "the rest of us"(tm) can help you with please feel free to ask them.
[04:02] <DsM> lol
[04:02] <DsM> oh? is that trademarked?
[04:03] <DsM> anyone know how to sign up to be a mirror
[04:03] <BlueEagle> dsm: It is now. :)
[04:04] <DsM> ;) well i guess i'd better not use it then
[04:17] <AzCowboy> Can anyone help with madwifi and wpasupplicant?
[04:18] <DJ_Mer_> hahahaha... my friend is brand new to linux so for kicks i made him forkbomb himself
[04:19] <AzCowboy> :-p
[04:19] <AzCowboy> That was nice.
[04:19] <DJ_Mer_> its a welcome gift
[04:19] <DJ_Mer_> you live in arizona?
[04:19] <AzCowboy> I'm from Arizona... living in Denver now.
[04:19] <DJ_Mer_> oh
[04:20] <DJ_Mer_> im in sierra vista... *que gag and suicide*
[04:20] <AzCowboy> heh
[04:30] <GlassCasket> Whats a forkbomb
[04:30] <DJ_Mer_> GlassCasket: a fork bomb is something called a "wabbit", a fast-reproducing prgoram isntance or command.
[04:31] <DJ_Mer_> running a forkbomb in your terminal will freeze you up so bad you can barely move.
[04:31] <Insomniac-> a program which keeps duplicating itself effectively making the system pretty much unusable
[04:31] <DJ_Mer_> Insomniac-: haaa for once the american beat ya
[04:31] <GlassCasket> Haha
[04:31] <Insomniac-> just woke up
[04:31] <Insomniac-> ;)
[04:31] <Insomniac-> haven't even finished my coffee yet
[04:32] <DJ_Mer_> he is the most pissed person i've seen right now though... hes yelling at me quite a bit
[04:32] <DJ_Mer_> cos he was running ubuntu in VMware, which has now totally frozen up on his winblows computer
[04:32] <Insomniac-> lol
[04:33] <xIllu> anyone know if its possible to run a pcmcia card even if under lspci it says that CardBus is an unknown device?:)
[04:33] <Insomniac-> depends on whether your cardbus device is supported
[04:34] <xIllu> well.. it does say PCMCIA found on boot.. and it loads the cardmgr .. if that means anything
[04:35] <Insomniac-> the pcmcia initscript starts the pcmcia tools which should have the driver include iirc
[04:35] <Insomniac-> it's been a while since i messed with pcmcia
[04:36] <Insomniac-> you can't mount/use the device?
[04:36] <Insomniac-> s/include/included/
[04:37] <xIllu> just a sec let me load linux again..
[04:37] <Insomniac-> what kind of device is it?
[04:37] <xIllu> its a CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments device
[04:38] <Insomniac-> that's the manufacturer... what *kind* of device is it? network card, modem, etc?
[04:39] <xIllu> well that is the PCMCIA slot.. for the wlan network card
[04:39] <Insomniac-> and how is it not working? you can't assign an ip to the wlan interface?
[04:40] <xIllu> well.. when i put the wlan card in.. and do iwconfig it says "no wireless extensions"
[04:40] <xIllu> and when i do lspci i find this "error" CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031
[04:41] <Insomniac-> run dmesg after plugging in the device, do you see anything interesting being detected or failing?
[04:41] <xIllu> ok sec let me try
[04:42] <xIllu> PCMCIA: socket f7985c2c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power
[04:43] <ClayG> anythign similar to active sync for nix?
[04:45] <Insomniac-> xIllu: that's the only thing?
[04:46] <xIllu> yes.. do you know a command that shows what kernel is doing ? a friend of mine told me about it but i forgot what command that was
[04:47] <xIllu> that command showed some IRQ 10 error when we pluged the card in..
[04:47] <Insomniac-> that would be dmesg
[04:48] <xIllu> hmm it was a command that continued to display messages while you were doing something... this "dmesg" just displays a list and then stops..
[04:48] <Insomniac-> tail -f /var/log/syslog?
[04:49] <xIllu> oh yea that was the command :)
[04:50] <xIllu> but it didnt do anything special when i plugged the card in.. just displayed the message "PCMCIA: socket f7985c2c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power" when plugged out
[04:50] <Insomniac-> hm
[04:50] <xIllu> ups pasted the massage twice in the last msg :)
[04:51] <Insomniac-> i don't have any wlan equiptment myself but i suggest you google for linux + the device and see whether it's supported, whether you need to compile a driver, etc
[04:51] <Insomniac-> s/equiptment/equipment/
[04:52] <xIllu> yeah did that and.. found out that texas instruments didnt release any drivers for linux for the cardbus i use..
[04:52] <xIllu> the only was is to use windows drivers.. but they r encrypted or something and the guy who made the drivers cant release the decryptor for it
[04:52] <Insomniac-> no 3rd party drivers?
[04:52] <jahshua> http://www.xchat.org/download/  which one of these could be used with kubuntu ?
[04:53] <xIllu> Insomniac-: should i try to look for the CardBus drivers or for the wlan card drivers?
[04:53] <Insomniac-> wlan card
[04:53] <Insomniac-> i doubt the cardbus itself isn't supported
[04:53] <xIllu> oh i found some yes.. but its sooo complicated to install that.. im a total noob in linux :) hehe
[04:54] <Insomniac-> no drivers in apt-cache search wlan?
[04:55] <xIllu> i dont know .. let me try that..
[04:57] <xIllu> how do i download the update with that command?
[04:58] <Insomniac-> what update? do you want to install a package or update the repository index?
[04:59] <xIllu> update the repository index..
[04:59] <Insomniac-> apt-get update
[05:00] <xIllu> heh ok im in as a root.. and it tells me E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock -open (13 Promission denied)
[05:01] <Insomniac-> running some apt-frontend at the same time?
[05:01] <luluroot> how long does apt keep stuff in /var/cache/apt/archive?
[05:01] <Insomniac-> until you delete it afaik
[05:01] <luluroot> won't adept do it automatically?
[05:02] <xIllu> Insomniac-: i just started apt-cache search pcmcia before the apt-get update command.. but it finished searching long time ago
[05:02] <seth_k|lappy> just use sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:02] <Insomniac-> luluroot: i'm not sure but i don't think so
[05:03] <xIllu> ok it said Done on package list and dependacy tree
[05:03] <jahshua> http://www.xchat.org/download/  which one of these could be used with kubuntu ?
[05:03] <Insomniac-> xIllu: lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[05:04] <Insomniac-> and see which program has that file in use
[05:04] <luluroot> apt-get autoclean removed nothing seth_k|lappy o_O
[05:05] <xIllu> lsof: WARMNING can't stat() xfs file system /dev/.static/dev .. well it wasnt a ERROR :)
[05:06] <xIllu> i did a sudo apt-get update .. that worked
[05:06] <Insomniac-> lsof might need to run as root to properly list open files
[05:06] <xIllu> ok i guess it updated the repository index now..
[05:07] <Insomniac-> appears so
[05:07] <xIllu> what do i do now? use search pcmcia?
[05:09] <Insomniac-> see if there is a driver for your card in there
[05:09] <Insomniac-> apt-cache search wlan
[05:10] <xIllu> it just found drivers for a prism2 cards.. mine is atheos chipset
[05:10] <Insomniac-> you might be stuck with having to download and compile a driver in this case
[05:11] <xIllu> ohh hmm..
[05:13] <xIllu> i did find some drivers for the card i use.. but im not sure how i compile it now to work as it should.. the readme says to do ./Configure first
[05:13] <xIllu> so i do.. and then asks me for a path..
[05:13] <Insomniac-> read the documentation that came with it
[05:14] <Insomniac-> usually installs are mostly ./configure && make && make install, but that's not always the case
[05:15] <KeithWeisshar> should i download the kubuntu cd if i already have the regular ubuntu cd
[05:15] <xIllu> how do i find out where kernel is ?
[05:16] <Insomniac-> KeithWeisshar: you could just install the kde packages on ubuntu
[05:16] <KeithWeisshar> why is there a separate kubuntu cd when there is already a ubuntu cd and the kde can be downloaded
[05:16] <xIllu> oh it tells me i need the kernel source in /usr/src/linux .. how do i download it? or is somewhere on the kubuntu cd already?
[05:17] <Insomniac-> KeithWeisshar: probably for people without an internet connection
[05:17] <Insomniac-> xIllu: you can apt-get that kernel source
[05:17] <KeithWeisshar> does kubuntu allow installation of ubuntu
[05:17] <xIllu> ty
[05:17] <Insomniac-> KeithWeisshar: probably
[05:18] <Insomniac-> i'm not sure but there is likely a gnome package as well
[05:18] <KeithWeisshar> does kubuntu only include kde
[05:19] <KeithWeisshar> does the kubuntu cd only include the kde packages
[05:19] <Insomniac-> yeah i think so
[05:19] <Insomniac-> no gnome on my system in any case
[05:20] <xIllu> how do i download something with apt-get ?
[05:20] <xIllu> oh with install i guess
[05:20] <Insomniac-> apt-get install <name>
[05:21] <xIllu> oh theres a source command also.. i think i need that for the source of the kernel right?
[05:21] <KeithWeisshar> is there any way to pre-order the dapper cd
[05:22] <xIllu> i did sudo apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12 .. hope thats the right one :)
[05:22] <KeithWeisshar> for april release
[05:22] <Insomniac-> there are linux-source-<version> packages
[05:22] <Insomniac-> you can use install to install those i suppose
[05:22] <KeithWeisshar> is there any way to preorder dapper through shipit
[05:23] <robitaille> KeithWeisshar,  no
[05:23] <robitaille> shipit is still only shipping Breezy
[05:24] <KeithWeisshar> does shipit cd take 4-6 weeks to arrive
[05:25] <KeithWeisshar> does it actually take 4 to 6 weeks to get the cd after ordering
[05:29] <robitaille> KeithWeisshar,  it's very variable.  For Breezy, I got my CDs maybe 6 weeks after asking for then.  For Warty, it was probably similar. For Hoary, it took me 4-5 months to get them.
[05:30] <robitaille> For Breezy  a few weeks before the release they shopped allowing requests for Hoary's CDs and started accepting requests for Breezy; and they started shipping shortly after the release.  If they do the same this time around, you will be able to ask for Dapper CDs sometime in March.
[05:31] <robitaille> s/shopped/stopped
[05:38] <xIllu> any ideas where i can look for the drivers? or just google them?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> xIllu: yeah, google
[05:44] <McScruff> lo
[05:48] <canen> hello all
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hi
[05:52] <canen> sup?
[05:52] <canen> just installed kubuntu and wanted to say hey
[05:53] <McScruff> its a good distro (i came back to it) but has 1 or 2 problems
[05:53] <canen> yeah
[05:53] <canen> just trying to get by favourite apps installed
[05:54] <canen> mplayer is done so i am happy for the night
[05:54] <McScruff> tbh if zenwalk had better kde support i would use that
[05:55] <McScruff> xfce isnt my thing
[05:56] <McScruff> this sync issue is REALLY getting to me!!!
[05:58] <McScruff> can someone open firefox (who has flash installed) and goto video.google.com and choose a vid and see if they can get it in sync
[06:00] <McScruff> by playing a video on google?
[06:00] <McScruff> or just tell me a solution
[06:00] <McScruff> :P
[06:00] <Hobbsee> videos seem to play...
[06:00] <McScruff> but in sync?
[06:01] <McScruff> mine are a few seconds out
[06:01] <McScruff> and it works on other distros fine
[06:01] <Hobbsee> oh....you mean sync with the sound and the picture?
[06:01] <McScruff> yea
[06:01] <Hobbsee> my flash never seems to have sound at all...
[06:01] <McScruff> lol, thats not good
[06:02] <Hobbsee> i've got no idea why, havent really bothered to figure it out
[06:02] <McScruff> prob coz another app is using it
[06:03] <McScruff> kde might be "blocking" the rest out
[06:03] <xIllu> how do i tell linux that i REALLY am root user.. for every file i have to do sudo <command>.. and whan i use Kate or qconf i cant save the file.. says promission denined
[06:04] <Hobbsee> !root
[06:04] <ubotu> somebody said root was rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:04] <Hobbsee> xIllu: use kdesu <appname>
[06:06] <xIllu> the problem is.. im trying to install these wlan drivers.. and i have to make a new kernel .. and make a .conf file first.. so it opend a qconf.. but.. doing kdesu qconf says command qconf not found
[06:06] <McScruff> "sudo kwrite" always works for me
[06:06] <xIllu> this qconf file opned itself autom. when i did make xconf in the kernel source dir
[06:10] <douglas> I recently did an apt-get update and dist-upgrade and it seems to have broken my mp3 playback with the xine engine, and a few other things are not right as well?
[06:13] <Slyder0244> i'm using apollon with the plugins for ares, openft, gnutella, and fastrack but the only plugin that's online is fastrack the rest just say connecting....
[06:13] <Slyder0244> anyone have any ideas why the others aren't connecting
[06:13] <Insomniac-> maybe they need a recent list of peers to connect to
[06:13] <Insomniac-> could be the ones that come with the program are outdated
[06:15] <Insomniac-> no donkey support in apollon?
[06:15] <Slyder0244> so how would i go about checking that to see if they are recent
[06:16] <Insomniac-> poke around the programs configuration
[06:16] <Insomniac-> try substituting the ip's it has with recent ones you find through google
[06:17] <xIllu> let me see if i got this right.. to make my own drivers i first.. get the kernel source.. un"tar" it.. make a .conf file.. then go to the drivers location.. and do make?
[06:17] <Insomniac-> something like that
[06:17] <Insomniac-> doesn't the driver come with instructions on how to install it?
[06:18] <xIllu> yeah thats what it said.. more or less.. i did make.. and it did bunch of stuff.. what do i do after that?
[06:19] <Insomniac-> well usually drivers come in the form of modules
[06:19] <Insomniac-> so something like make modules;make modules_install
[06:21] <xIllu> i tried make all in the driver dir.. and after saying few YES NO's.. i get this error "cat: /proc/kysm: No suck file or directory".. this error came like.. 20 times then it stopped heh
[06:21] <xIllu> ups... "no such file or direcotry" hehe.. not "suck":)
[06:22] <Insomniac-> make all sounds like overkill
[06:22] <Insomniac-> if you have the source for the kernel that is running all you need to do is compile the module
[06:23] <Insomniac-> try this in the kernel source directory
[06:24] <Insomniac-> make clean && make modules && make modules_install
[06:24] <xIllu> oki
[06:24] <Insomniac-> not sure about that last one, doing this from memory
[06:24] <Insomniac-> haven't compiled a kernel in several years
[06:25] <xIllu> ahh this stupid promission denied again.. even with sudo
[06:25] <McScruff> sync problem fixed
[06:26] <Insomniac-> xIllu: do sudo -i for a root shell
[06:26] <Insomniac-> the && might screw up with sudo
[06:28] <xIllu> ok that put me in root but move to a different dir.. a strange one.. i dunno how to get to where the kernel is now :).. theres no /usr anywhere in sight :)
[06:28] <Insomniac-> just cd /usr
[06:29] <xIllu> lol ook :) that was stupid :D
[06:30] <xIllu> ok its compling now :)
[06:36] <Aaron_S> so can I tyoe a comand in the console to upgrade to KDE 3.5?
[06:38] <DJ_Mer_> I have cocaine, I have cocaine... I have cocaine and im cooler than you!
[06:41] <seth_k|lappy> Aaron_S, see /topic
[06:41] <Aaron_S> tinyurl link?
[06:44] <seth_k|lappy> yessir
[06:45] <seth_k|lappy> you'll want to add that repository, and then you can upgrade
[06:46] <Aaron_S> the deb in the repository?
[06:47] <Aaron_S> meh I will do this later Thanks Seth anyways
[06:47] <seth_k|lappy> open a terminal
[06:47] <seth_k|lappy> oh
[06:47] <seth_k|lappy> alright ^_^
[06:47] <Aaron_S> wate nm them :P
[06:47] <Aaron_S> its open
[06:48] <seth_k|lappy> ok
[06:48] <seth_k|lappy> type:
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> (copy and paste to avoid errors)
[06:49] <Aaron_S> ok
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> it'll ask for your password
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> and then a text editor will open
[06:49] <Aaron_S> yep
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> take that whole line (deb http://kubuntu.org.......) and paste it as the last line in the file
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> then save
[06:50] <seth_k|lappy> next, copy and paste those two commands on the tinyurl page, one command at a time, and run them
[06:50] <seth_k|lappy> finally, run the command:
[06:50] <seth_k|lappy> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:50] <seth_k|lappy> then you will have KDE 3.5 :)
[06:50] <jobezone0> Aaron_S: never used a deb distro?
[06:50] <Aaron_S> no
[06:51] <Aaron_S> first time with linux realy
[06:51] <jobezone0> :)
[06:51] <jobezone0> well, if you need help with KDE, or something, come to me, i'm a guru on it.
[06:51] <Aaron_S> ok thanks I will keep that in mind
[06:52] <jobezone0> and I do know who you are, Aaron Seigo :)
[06:52] <Aaron_S> Seth the two commands in the console
[06:52] <jobezone0> "i'm a guru on it" -> joke
[06:52] <Aaron_S> and no I and not that guy
[06:52] <seth_k|lappy> haha, aaron wishes he were aseigo
[06:53] <seth_k|lappy> Aaron_S, you ran the two commands?
[06:53] <Aaron_S> Im asking in the console
[06:54] <jobezone0> well, this just might be his other persona. He thinks he can fool us when he puts those glasses, but not me.
[06:54] <seth_k|lappy> Aaron_S, yes, in the console
[06:54] <seth_k|lappy> one at a time
[06:55] <Aaron_S> the deb command is saying the deb command is not found >_<
[06:56] <jobezone0> YOu sure you added this line?->                                        deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[06:57] <jobezone0> to the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[06:57] <Aaron_S> yes
[06:57] <jobezone0> and nothing else?
[06:57] <jobezone0> so now you should run the command seth_k|lappy gave you.
[06:58] <jobezone0> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy> wait, he hasn't added the apt-key yet
[06:58] <jobezone0> ahh, sorry
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy> Aaron_S, the two commands I'm talking about are:
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy>  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy> run those, in order
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy> one at a time :)
[06:58] <seth_k|lappy> in console
[06:58] <Aaron_S> ah
[06:58] <Aaron_S> ok
[06:59] <Aaron_S> I was doing wget and dep :r
[06:59] <Aaron_S> thanks Seth and Jobezone
[07:04] <xIllu> Insomniac-: tnx for the help.. but ill just give up lol.. no matter what i do always the same error :)
[07:05] <Insomniac-> don't forget you need to actually load the module after installing it
[07:06] <xIllu> which? i cant even make the drivers.. it always says "re-run make config and disable CardBus support".. i did that but always the same
[07:06] <Insomniac-> disable cardbus? heh
[07:06] <xIllu> yeah thats what it says when i do make.. or make install.. or make all :)
[07:06] <Insomniac-> weird a pcmcia driver tells you to disable cardbus
[07:06] <xIllu> heh yeah
[07:07] <Insomniac-> i'm out of ideas
[07:07] <xIllu> full message is: CardBus support requires kernel PCI bus support! To fix, re-run 'make config' and siable cardbus support." :)
[07:08] <Insomniac-> ah
[07:08] <Insomniac-> enable pci support
[07:09] <xIllu> how do i do that?
[07:09] <xIllu> kernel source config?
[07:09] <Insomniac-> might be easier to use ubuntu's kernel config but i don't know where to find that one
[07:09] <Insomniac-> try this: make menuconfig
[07:09] <Insomniac-> it's a gui to create a kernel config file
[07:11] <xIllu> ok it started
[07:11] <Insomniac-> oh wait
[07:11] <Insomniac-> the kernel config is in /boot
[07:11] <xIllu> PCI support is selected in it already
[07:12] <Insomniac-> hmm
[07:12] <Insomniac-> try copying ubuntu's kernel config from boot
[07:12] <Insomniac-> and renaming to the filename make expects
[07:12] <Insomniac-> then try building the module again
[07:15] <xIllu> where is that file? in /boot?
[07:15] <Insomniac-> yep
[07:15] <Insomniac-> /boot/config-<version>
[07:15] <xIllu> ah ok
[07:20] <xIllu> what is a .dsc file?
[07:20] <Insomniac-> dunno
[07:21] <Insomniac-> try file
[07:21] <Insomniac-> file <filename>
[07:22] <xIllu> PGP armored data singed message :)
[07:23] <seth_k|lappy> .dsc files describe the changes made in a debian package
[07:23] <seth_k|lappy> and give the md5sums of the orig.tar.gz and diff.gz
[07:23] <seth_k|lappy> among other things
[07:23] <xIllu> heh ill go to bed .. already 7:30 am.. been playing with this for hours now :).. tnx 4 the help!.. gonna continue when i get up again :)
[07:23] <seth_k|lappy> (it's not a full changelog, just a "check" file if you will)
[07:23] <xIllu> oh.. nice
[07:25] <Insomniac-> if you want to see what kind of file some unknown file is, try file, or open it in an editor
[07:25] <Insomniac-> don't use cat or the like, those could exploit your terminal by abusing terminal control characters
[07:36] <DJ_Mer_> i just trashed mysl bad.
[07:38] <DJ_Mer_> Insomniac-: my hed feels about to pop
[07:38] <Insomniac-> sit back and relax
[07:38] <DJ_Mer_> uh-huh
[07:40] <DJ_Mer_> baad cocaine
[07:42] <Insomniac-> hmm i need to shave
[07:44] <DJ_Mer_> legs?
[07:45] <Insomniac-> hehe
[07:47] <_zvodd> is there a command to save text output to a file?
[07:47] <Insomniac-> >
[07:47] <Insomniac-> echo blah > file
[07:48] <_zvodd> how boat if a wanted to save the output of grep to a file?
[07:48] <Insomniac-> grep blah file > outputfile
[07:49] <_zvodd> grep ./foo [0-9]  > ./filteredfoo
[07:49] <_zvodd> soo it works like |
[07:49] <Insomniac-> yep
[07:49] <Insomniac-> you can also use >> to append
[07:50] <Insomniac-> instead of overwrite/create
[07:50] <Insomniac-> also
[07:50] <Insomniac-> you can omit ./
[07:50] <_zvodd> i c
[07:50] <Insomniac-> bash has nice manpages on scripting stuff
[07:51] <Insomniac-> you can do pretty powerful things with simple pipelines and a little scripting
[07:51] <_zvodd> how can you get a list of avilable man pages, i only know  man command
[07:52] <Insomniac-> take a look in /usr/share/man
[07:52] <Insomniac-> find /use/share/man -type f
[07:52] <_zvodd> are there man pages that are't just a descryption of a command
[07:53] <Insomniac-> some manpages describe config file formats
[07:53] <_zvodd> i can't figure out how to specify a user with chmod
[07:53] <Insomniac-> man chmod :)
[07:54] <seth_k|lappy> _zvodd, to change ownership of a file, you use chown, not chmod
[07:54] <Insomniac-> right
[07:54] <_zvodd> hmmmm
[07:55] <_zvodd> so i can't just give a user write permission to a file, with out changing the files ownership
[07:56] <_zvodd> ?
[07:57] <Insomniac-> no
[07:57] <Insomniac-> you could give every user write permission though
[07:57] <Insomniac-> but that might not be what you want
[07:57] <BigKahuna> how to enable thumb nail view for PDF and Text docs?
[07:58] <Insomniac-> _zvodd: unix permissions work with user and group ownership
[07:58] <BigKahuna> viewing multiple pdf files in a folder, I want to see the first page of each PDF file as opposed to the PDF icon.
[07:59] <Insomniac-> _zvodd: a user needs to either own the file and have write permissions, be in the group that owns the file and have write permissions, or the file needs to be world-writable
[07:59] <Insomniac-> BigKahuna: set konqueror to icon view iirc
[08:00] <Insomniac-> and enable thumbnails if not enabled
[08:00] <xIllu> how do you delete a dir in linux?
[08:00] <Insomniac-> rm -rf <dir>
[08:00] <xIllu> ty
[08:00] <Insomniac-> careful with rm -rf it'll delete anything so don't make typo's :)
[08:00] <_zvodd> so maybe i should make a new group and put the users that i want to have permission, into the new group. Then how do i change the group that the file belongs to?
[08:01] <Insomniac-> _zvodd: with chown
[08:01] <xIllu> heh ok
[08:01] <_zvodd> oh ok
[08:02] <Insomniac-> _zvodd: chown user.group <filename>
[08:02] <Insomniac-> (or dir)
[08:03] <BigKahuna> Insomniac-, How do I do that exactly? I found "Previews & Metadata" under settings configure...
[08:03] <BigKahuna> is that what I'm looking for?
[08:04] <Insomniac-> that sounds about right
[08:04] <_zvodd> could i make my system completly insecure by chmod -R a+rwxX /
[08:04] <Insomniac-> yes
[08:04] <_zvodd> seems like a good idea
[08:04] <Insomniac-> only if you like pain
[08:05] <_zvodd> lol
[08:09] <_zvodd> i have this redhat box  wich i got from some company that was liquidated, i want to be able to start it in single user mode, but i can't add any perameters to LILO excepte "linux-qc" e.g "linux-qc init=/bin/bash" or "linux-qc single"
[08:10] <_zvodd> ne body have ne ideas?
[08:10] <Insomniac-> why not erase the disk and install something usable?
[08:11] <Slyder0244> anyone have any experience with ipods under kubuntu
[08:11] <_zvodd> its a wierd box, its the sive of 3 dvd cases stacked ontop of each other and it only has a laptop HDD(5GB), the box is rivited
[08:12] <Insomniac-> i don't but i'm hearing good things about ipods and amarok
[08:12] <Slyder0244> yea amarok isn't finding it and i don't see it in /media/ or /dev/ so i can't mount it
[08:12] <_zvodd> so i am not sure if the mobo would be compatabel on nehting else
[08:13] <Insomniac-> Slyder0244: nothing on the ubuntu forums?
[08:13] <Slyder0244> i did a quick search but the people on there seem to be able to at least see theirs they just needed help mounting
[08:13] <Slyder0244> but i'm gonna keep searching just thought i'd ask in here real quick to see if anyone had experience with it
[08:15] <jobezone0> Slyder0244: Try loggin out of KDE, then log back in,
[08:16] <Slyder0244> sure it's worth a try just ctrl+alt+backspace right
[08:16] <Insomniac-> what kind of windows solution is that ;)
[08:16] <jobezone0> Slyder0244: I've had problems in kde 3.4 with sometimes not being able to read audiocd's.
[08:16] <Slyder0244> it's exactly a windows solution lol
[08:16] <jobezone0> Insomniac-: well, against bugs all weapons are valid!
[08:16] <Slyder0244> k brb cause i'm sure i can find some more problems lol
[08:23] <_zvodd> does ne one know where the defualt kde ksplash themes are stored?
[08:24] <_zvodd> user one are stored ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/
[08:25] <Insomniac-> locate ksplash
[08:27] <Insomniac-> insomniac@dreamwalk:~$ locate ksplash|grep Themes|head -n 1
[08:27] <Insomniac-> /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes
[08:27] <BigKahuna> how to open .chm files? Do I need an ebook reader?
[08:27] <Insomniac-> chm files are compressed html files
[08:27] <Insomniac-> not sure what you could use to view one
[08:29] <Insomniac-> any luck Slyder0244 ?
[08:30] <Slyder0244> nope
[08:30] <Slyder0244> but here's another problem maybe you might have some insight on
[08:31] <Slyder0244> whenever i use programs like xchat, firestarter, and firefox if i switch to an empty desktop they crash
[08:31] <Slyder0244> but in gtk styles if i switch from use my kde style to use qt then they don't
[08:31] <Insomniac-> using kde 3.5?
[08:31] <Slyder0244> only problem i have with that is every time i reboot it defaults back to use my kde style and then i have to change it everytime before i open those apps
[08:31] <Slyder0244> yep 3.5
[08:32] <Insomniac-> which version of qt are you using?
[08:32] <Slyder0244> 3.3.4
[08:33] <Insomniac-> hmm
[08:33] <Insomniac-> there's a nasty bug in qt 3.3.4 but i don't think it's related to this
[08:34] <Slyder0244> yea i couldn't find any info on this problem anywhere
[08:34] <Slyder0244> although i just figured out the other day that if i switch gtk style to qt then they don't crash but this has been happening for awhile now
[08:35] <Insomniac-> best advice i can give you is avoid major kde releases
[08:35] <Slyder0244> it just took me awhile to realize what was causing the crashes cause at first i didn't know why these apps were just disapearing on me at random times
[08:35] <Slyder0244> yea first thing i did when i installed kubuntu was upgrade to 3.5
[08:35] <Insomniac-> i'm only having minor problems with 3.4.3 here
[08:36] <Insomniac-> such as a read only kicker menu
[08:36] <Slyder0244> i'm wondering if kubuntu isn't recognizing my usb ports because i couldn't get it to recognize my camera the other day either
[08:36] <Insomniac-> but i can live without a menu
[08:37] <Insomniac-> any weird things showing up in dmesg?
[08:37] <Insomniac-> when you plug it in
[08:38] <Slyder0244> i tried running dmesg but i can't tell what any of the stuff means heh
[08:39] <Slyder0244> just looks like everything it spits out is refering to my eth0 card
[08:41] <Insomniac-> hmm
[08:41] <Insomniac-> usually usb is quite verbose
[08:42] <Slyder0244> yes well me and my hardware are always the exception lol
[10:41] (Hobbsee/#kubuntu) no, yes, that's right
[10:41] (Hobbsee/#kubuntu) i have no clue sorry..
[10:41] (burepe/#kubuntu) _zvodd, are you there? what step are you at?
[10:42] ([Surge] /#kubuntu) Hehe :)
[10:42] (_zvodd/#kubuntu) i copy the text from the second link into my sources.list , still the same problem
[10:42] (Hobbsee_away/#kubuntu) got confused as to what xine was
[10:42] <Hobbsee_away> _zvodd: then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:42] <Hobbsee_away> then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:43] <_zvodd> says Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[10:43] <_zvodd> i really hope that that 1.0.0.0 is not supost to be an IP address.
[10:44] <[Surge] > I've done this before in MDK - strange.
[10:45] <burepe> huh
[10:45] <_zvodd> pretty much now it is telling me the connection timed out
[10:45] <burepe> weird, you got me
[10:45] <burepe> What did you do on the second link?
[10:46] <_zvodd> this eems to be a networking problem, but i can use the internet fine
[10:46] <burepe> ping www.gmail.com
[10:46] <burepe> really
[10:46] <_zvodd> well i am using irc, that kinda demonstraights that every layer is working
[10:46] <burepe> if you can use the net you should be able to get the repos to work
[10:46] <_zvodd> i know, it is really freakin wierd!
[10:47] <burepe> paste your sources.list in http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:47] <_zvodd> because i can even connect to the repos via http
[10:48] <burepe> did you delete the repos that were in the sources.list before you added the out put from the second link (source-o-matic)?
[10:48] <_zvodd> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/467626
[10:49] <Hobbsee_away> you might want to check if the breezy repos are up at all burepe
[10:49] <_zvodd> i've not had ne trouble httping to them
[10:49] <burepe> what do you mean? my repos
[10:49] <Hobbsee_away> burepe: yes
[10:50] <burepe> no problem
[10:50] <Hobbsee_away> hmm
[10:50] <burepe> they work
[10:50] <burepe> _zvodd,  did you paste the sources.list?
[10:51] <jobezone0> everybody, install the yakuake package (from Universe, I think), it's pretty nice and handy.
[10:52] <_zvodd> yeh
[10:52] <_zvodd> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/467629
[10:52] <burepe> _zvodd, what you pasted is not from source-o-matic?
[10:53] <burepe> it would say source o matic on the top
[10:53] <burepe> here
[10:53] <_zvodd> ok liook at this one
[10:53] <_zvodd> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/467629
[10:54] <burepe> ok
[10:54] <burepe> did you save it
[10:54] <_zvodd> yeh
[10:54] <burepe> you posted 2 different ones
[10:54] <burepe> which is in your sources.list now
[10:54] <burepe> ?
[10:54] <burepe> the last one ?
[10:56] <burepe> if the one from source o matic is saved in your sources.list, open adept and push the "fetch updates" button
[10:57] <burepe>  or in the command line $sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <burepe> !skype
[10:59] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:59] <zvodd_> !php
[10:59] <ubotu> hmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:59] <[Surge] > buga: That win32 package on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats installed on my system with some odd user and group names
[11:00] <[Surge] > I hardly think win32 codecs should belong to the postfix group :)
[11:00] <[Surge] > I meant burepe
[11:00] <burepe> ha
[11:00] <burepe> thats what I thought
[11:00] <burepe> yeah weird
[11:00] <burepe> I am bad with users and groups and all that stuff
[11:00] <burepe> don't really know how it all works
[11:01] <[Surge] > It's pretty simple
[11:01] <burepe> I was messing around with my network and I got so confused by that
[11:01] <burepe> how so
[11:02] <[Surge] > Well a file can belong to a user but also has "group" and "other" permissions on it.
[11:02] <[Surge] > So there are three sets of permissions on every file.
[11:02] <burepe> ok
[11:02] <burepe> yeah
[11:02] <burepe> i got that
[11:02] <burepe> but the groups
[11:02] <burepe> do I make groups
[11:02] <[Surge] > Well the groups are just collections of users
[11:02] <[Surge] > Yes
[11:02] <burepe> in my network thing there were tons of group names
[11:03] <burepe> how are thoes collections made?
[11:03] <[Surge] > The good old way with groupadd or with a Kuser
[11:03] <burepe> ok
[11:03] <burepe> so you can add one use to as many groups as you like?
[11:03] <[Surge] > Yes
[11:04] <burepe> and can you make the group names?
[11:04] <[Surge] > You can use usermod to do that or kuser
[11:04] <[Surge] > Yes of course :)
[11:04] <burepe> so did you change the permissions on the codecs? can you use them now?
[11:05] <[Surge] > No that wasn't the problem but it was one of the problems :)
[11:05] <burepe> why when I was doing my network it says allow groups and there are all these groups, like root and ...
[11:05] <[Surge] > Hmmm ... not sure what you were seeing
[11:06] <burepe> me too
[11:06] <burepe> hey where do usb sticks mount?
[11:07] <[Surge] > buga: /dev/sda*
[11:07] <[Surge] > Arg : burepe
[11:07] <burepe> I was in /media  and there was two files usbdisk and sdb1
[11:08] <burepe> they had the same content
[11:08] <[Surge] > Oh sorry - I'm thinking of the device name
[11:08] <burepe> like usbdisk whas mounted to sdb1
[11:08] <burepe> but thats the thing what is the device and what is the correct mount point?
[11:09] <[Surge] > - /media/sda*
[11:09] <burepe> I copied some files and I tried to umount but it didnt work and I thought since it was plug and play i could just pull it out
[11:09] <[Surge] > At least that is where KDE likes to mount it but you can mount it manually where ever you like
[11:09] <burepe> but the files were messed when i tried to listen to them on my pda
[11:10] <burepe> so the device is /media/sdb1?
[11:10] <burepe> and the mount point is /media/usbdisk?
[11:11] <[Surge] > No the device is typically /dev/sd**
[11:11] <zvodd_> apt worked for just long enough for me to install php, and now i can't install mysql
[11:11] <[Surge] > The mount point is where ever you want it to be
[11:11] <burepe> but it auto mounts
[11:11] <burepe> and I had two folder with the same content in /media
[11:12] <[Surge] > Right
[11:12] <[Surge] > Well once is probably just a symbolic link
[11:12] <burepe>       zvodd_ I am out of ideas
[11:12] <burepe> ok so the real file is usbdisk
[11:12] <burepe> so I should use thoes files?
[11:12] <[Surge] > burepe: Like my cdrom :
[11:12] <[Surge] > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     6 2005-08-12 11:49 cdrom -> cdrom0
[11:12] <[Surge] > drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2005-08-12 11:49 cdrom0
[11:13] <[Surge] > Yeah
[11:13] <burepe> oh
[11:13] <burepe> ok
[11:13] <burepe> how do i unmount a auto mount usb stic
[11:13] <burepe> ?
[11:13] <burepe> just pull it out?
[11:14] <[Surge] > umount /media/usbdisk
[11:14] <[Surge] > Make sure you're not still browsing it otherwise it'll lock the device so you can't unmount it
[11:15] <burepe> ok
[11:15] <burepe> do you always have to umount automount things?
[11:15] <[Surge] > You can list what app is locking it with :  lsof | grep /media/usbdisk
[11:15] <burepe> what about dvd and such
[11:16] <burepe> nothing is locking it but just to take it out?
[11:16] <[Surge] > With DVDs and CDROMS there is also the "eject" utility
[11:16] <[Surge] > eject = eject
[11:16] <burepe> should there be an icon somewhere for the usb?
[11:16] <[Surge] > eject -t = close tray
[11:16] <burepe> ha
[11:16] <[Surge] > On KDE yes
[11:16] <burepe> i got no icon
[11:16] <burepe> desktop?
[11:16] <[Surge] > Yes
[11:16] <burepe> naw
[11:16] <burepe> damn
[11:17] <[Surge] > I always get an icon poping up on my desktop when I plug in a USB stick or my digital camera
[11:17] <burepe> An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:
[11:17] <burepe> The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[11:24] <burepe> I don't have a media:/sda1 Can I make one?
[11:25] <Hobbsee_away> burepe: just go to /media/ and see if it is there
[11:25] <burepe> it is
[11:25] <burepe> but i want the icon with the umount feature
[11:26] <burepe> i love the gui
[11:26] <burepe> i am a gui kinda guy
[11:26] <Hobbsee> dont you have the icon on your desktop then?
[11:26] <burepe> plus it would just be cool to know how to do so i can impress all my friends
[11:26] <Hobbsee> this must be the patch lol
[11:26] <burepe> exactly
[11:27] <Hobbsee> there's a bug in kde
[11:27] <burepe> what patch
[11:27] <burepe> oh
[11:27] <Hobbsee> didnt you get the notice?
[11:27] <burepe> where does it come
[11:27] <burepe> ?
[11:27] <burepe> chousuke
[11:27] <burepe> are you japanese?
[11:27] <Chousuke> burepe: no.
[11:28] <burepe> you live in japan?
[11:28] <burepe> i saw choubaka
[11:28] <burepe> when you signed in
[11:28] <hugelmopf> burepe: are you running the latest updates?
[11:28] <Chousuke> Nah. I just study the language.
[11:28] <burepe> i don7t think so
[11:28] <Chousuke> burepe: hmm?
[11:28] <burepe> me to
[11:28] <burepe> yeah
[11:29] <burepe> i speak pretty well, but i am always learning
[11:29] <burepe> i am reading mondai na nihongo now
[11:29] <burepe> do you know it?
[11:29] <burepe> I want to make a japanese kubuntu channel
[11:29] <Chousuke> I've heard of it.
[11:29] <burepe> so I can learn this stuff in japanese and make japanese linux friends
[11:30] <burepe> I live in kobe and i do the kansai linux users group
[11:31] <burepe> hugelmopf, is the "full upgrade" button in adept for updates?
[11:31] <hugelmopf> burepe: concering your problem... you might want to add the breezy-updates to your repository list first.
[11:31] <burepe> ok
[11:31] <burepe> then what?
[11:32] <hugelmopf> burepe: Adept : Fetch updates.
[11:32] <hugelmopf> burepe: and then Adept: full upgrade
[11:32] <burepe> got the repo so i guess i just press the button
[11:32] <hugelmopf> yes.
[11:32] <hugelmopf> i'll be back later, good luck.
[11:33] <burepe> thanks
[11:34] <burepe> Chousuke, do you have japanese input enabled? I just installed breezy and I had trouble doing it last time, can you tell me how to do it or point me to a recent faq?
[11:35] <Chousuke> I'm not running Ubuntu atm.
[11:35] <Chousuke> But
[11:36] <burepe> ah
[11:36] <Chousuke> Hmm, actually, I only ever managed to set up Japanese input for gnome. I don't know about KDE
[11:36] <burepe> I did kde once then reinstalled couldn't do it
[11:39] <burepe> you can go to #kansailug if you ever need anything to do with japanese and linux. it is a bit of a ghost town at the moment, but I am always there and a few others
[11:39] <burepe> i am trying to get it going more
[11:40] <burepe> anybody ever install a tv tuner card? I am a little lost as how to make it work
[11:44] <burepe> Chousuke, you can go to #kansailug if you ever need anything to do with japanese and linux. it is a bit of a ghost town at the moment, but I am always there and a few others
[11:46] <Chousuke> burepe: I might come in some time to idle. I'm not very good at Japanese yet so I wouldn't be able to talk much.
[11:50] <burepe> we dont talk in japanese
[11:50] <Chousuke> Ah, right.
[11:50] <burepe> there are no japanese people actually. I would like it if there were but I havent met any japanese linux users
[11:51] <burepe> they are all foreingers
[11:51] <burepe> but we can speak japanese and answer questions releated to that and linux
[11:52] <Chousuke> I wonder if there are any Japanese linux-channels on the 2ch irc network.
[11:52] <burepe> that would be cool
[11:52] <burepe> I would like to make a kubuntu one
[11:53] <burepe> cuz kubuntu is so easy to use
[11:54] <jpatrick> burepe: #kubuntu-jp ?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> hi again bimberi
[11:57] <bimberi> hi Hobbsee :)
[11:57] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:09] <burepe> jpatrick, yeah
[12:09] <burepe> it dont exist
[12:09] <burepe> i think
[12:13] <_zvodd> !apt
[12:13] <ubotu> from memory, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[12:14] <_zvodd> does kubuntu come with Perl preinstalled?
[12:14] <_zvodd> !perl
[12:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, _zvodd
[12:29] <Hobbsee> ok, wow...
[12:29] <Hobbsee> that was impressive lol!
[12:29] <bimberi> you too then
[12:30] <Hobbsee> bimberi: yes, and a lot of other people
[12:30] <Hobbsee> whee lol!
[12:30] <bimberi> *ride
[12:31] <burepe> ha
[12:32] <Hobbsee> burepe: /msg chanserv help
[12:32] <burepe> thanks
[12:32] <liam> any experienced linux users fancy giving me advice? Its about adding things to my $PATH or using alias'
[12:34] <burepe> Hobbsee, that didnt work
[12:34] <Hobbsee> burepe: server is in trouble at the moment - a lot of things arent working
[12:34] <burepe> ok
[12:34] <burepe> cool
[12:34] <burepe> thanks
[12:34] <bimberi> liam: to add to PATH edit /etc/profile (if you want it to apply to all users) or ~/.bash_profile (to apply to a particular user)
[12:35] <liam> what i wanted to do was to be able to type, say, firefox at the command line and it would run firefox
[12:36] <liam> do i use alias or add it to the path
[12:36] <robotgeek> liam: it should be in your path already
[12:36] <robotgeek> liam: firefox &
[12:36] <liam> i think i tried it before but ill have a go now
[12:37] <liam> firefox: command not found
[12:37] <Hobbsee> liam: do you have firefox installed?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> try mozilla-firefox
[12:38] <liam> yeah i think so im runing it now so i guess
[12:38] <liam> same problem
[12:38] <Hobbsee> liam: mozilla-firefox --version
[12:39] <Hobbsee> what's it tell you?
[12:39] <liam> command not found
[12:40] <bimberi> liam: Does "echo $PATH" look like this? - /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[12:40] <liam> echo $PATH
[12:40] <liam> oops lol
[12:40] <bimberi> gotcha :P
[12:40] <liam> exactly
[12:41] <Hobbsee> liam: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox firefox
[12:41] <Hobbsee> just see what it does...
[12:42] <liam> ok
[12:42] <liam> i didnt use the packeage ting to install it
[12:43] <liam> looks like its installing
[12:43] <Hobbsee> liam: what did you use?
[12:44] <_stephen> oops,could I ask  a question about Scim input method?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> _stephen: sure, got no clue if anyone can answer it though
[12:44] <Hobbsee> !ask
[12:44] <liam> can you just expain what i just did, and is there a list of applications that can be isntalled using the package manager
[12:44] <Hobbsee> liam: yes, you just installed firefox, and look in adept package manager for a list of stuff you can install
[12:45] <burepe> Anyone familiar with http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[12:45] <liam> shal;li delete the files that manually uinstalled?
[12:45] <Hobbsee> burepe: no, looks cool though
[12:45] <_stephen> when I use scim -d to start the scim, a segment fault occur
[12:46] <Hobbsee> liam: probably a good idea - what did you install?
[12:46] <burepe> open source protocal
[12:46] <burepe> and can use anynetwork
[12:46] <burepe> msn
[12:46] <burepe> calls are same price as skype too
[12:47] <liam> it was just firefox from their site
[12:47] <_stephen> I tried to compile it myslf,and install again ,same thing occurs
[12:48] <burepe> Hobbsee, could I use a debian package for that program?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> burepe: better to build it from source
[12:48] <burepe> ok
[12:49] <_stephen> if I write a shell to autostart it,then I can't start my KDE
[12:49] <Hobbsee> burepe: where's the darned source???
[12:50] <burepe> i dont know
[12:51] <liam> thanks alot
[12:51] <liam> no doubt uill be back soemtime
[12:52] <Hobbsee> burepe: darn, no source released - you'll have to try the debs, and hope that they work
[12:53] <burepe> sux huh
[12:53] <burepe> why I wonder
[12:54] <burepe> Hobbsee, How do install a deb without screwing everything up
[12:54] <burepe> ?
[12:54] <Hobbsee> !deb
[12:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:54] <burepe> thanks
[12:54] <Hobbsee> no problem
[12:55] <Hobbsee> just because they have debs for debian, doesnt necesarily mean they'll work on (k)ubuntu
[12:55] <jpatrick> or right click it -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install...
[12:55] <Hobbsee> that too
[12:55] <burepe> wish me luck
[12:57] <burepe> Hobbsee, read halfway down the first post http://forum.gizmoproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=1051&highlight=source&sid=539b4798bbef20eb3ebbd1595fb07af0
[12:58] <burepe> nevermind
[12:58] <burepe> that was not related
[12:58] <Hobbsee> burepe: check with apt-cache show which versions of which packages are in the repos
[01:00] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: ouch
[01:00] <Hobbsee> was about to tell you that all the versions are later than the ones you needed - then remembered that i'm not running breezy atm lol....
[01:00] <Hobbsee> so stupid...
[01:00] <liam> hello again
[01:00] <Hobbsee> hi
[01:01] <liam> i want to insatll real playerbut im not sure where to install it to, at teh moment it just sits in a folder called programs in my home folder
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !realplayer
[01:01] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:01] <burepe> Hobbsee, what do you mean?
[01:02] <Hobbsee> burepe: running kubuntu dapper, which means i dont have the breezy repositories
[01:02] <burepe> what am i looking for?
[01:02] <burepe> http://forum.gizmoproject.com/viewtopic.php?t=862&sid=539b4798bbef20eb3ebbd1595fb07af0
[01:02] <Hobbsee> yeah, you're fine on breezy too - i just checked with ubotu
[01:04] <Hobbsee> burepe: on that first thread, you're looking for the dependancy errors, and why they failed - then you're looking for the version numbers with apt-cache show packagename, to see if they are higher or lower than the minimum required
[01:04] <Hobbsee> ordinarily you dont have to bother - or you just find out as soon as you try to install the deb
[01:04] <liam> if not real plyer then what should i use? and still where is best to install prgrams too
[01:04] <liam> if i want everyone to use them
[01:04] <Hobbsee> liam: heard of apt-get?
[01:04] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[01:04] <ubotu> well, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[01:04] <Hobbsee> you might want to check that out - you dont have to install the packages manually
[01:05] <burepe> Hobbsee, that first thread was a mistake. sorry
[01:06] <Hobbsee> no problems
[01:08] <burepe> Hobbsee, what can you tell me about tv tuner cards?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> burepe: absolutely nothing, except for #ubuntu, the wiki, and google, in that order
[01:09] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:09] <burepe> yeah
[01:18] <zajacslv> please give me name of program --- wma > mp3 etc...
[01:19] <burepe> gizmo is dependant on this package libsipphoneapi but i can't find it in adept. Any suggestions?
[01:20] <liam> sorry, how do i add things to $PATH again
[01:20] <Hobbsee> burepe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96957
[01:21] <burepe> you are quick
[01:21] <Hobbsee> google is, yes
[01:21] <liam> lol
[01:23] <Hobbsee> [22:34]  <bimberi> liam: to add to PATH edit /etc/profile (if you want it to apply to all users) or ~/.bash_profile (to apply to a particular user)
[01:29] <liam> thanks
[01:30] <liam> that doenst make senzx=se to me that file
[01:30] <liam> :(
[01:30] <liam> i need to add realy player to the $path so i can use the firefox plugins
[01:32] <liam> ok, do i put a link to the app i want in, say, /usr/bin/X11?
[01:32] <Hobbsee> i have no idea
[01:32] <Hobbsee> bimberi: any idea?
[01:33] <liam> i may try it it looks that way
[01:33] <liam> ill find the folder that has the link to firefox and try and stick it ion there
[01:36] <bimberi> Hobbsee, liam:  sorry, none really
[01:39] <bimberi> liam: there is some info on installing realplayer & (k)ubuntu at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[01:39] <bimberi> ... doesn't mention firefox integration though
[01:42] <[-SiO-] > error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:42] <[-SiO-] > im trying to install a kde theme (CrystalClear) .... but the configure script says "error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[01:43] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[01:43] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[01:43] <[-SiO-] > thanks
[01:43] <Hobbsee> [-SiO-] : the link to crystal clear?
[01:43] <Hobbsee> i've heard of it, i dont remember what it looks like...
[01:44] <[-SiO-] > hobbsee: 1 sec
[01:44] <Hobbsee> k
[01:44] <Hobbsee> oh...them...yes, they're pretty!
[01:45] <[-SiO-] > hobbsee: http://linuxcult.com/forum/crystal.php
[01:45] <[-SiO-] > oh ok :p
[01:46] <Hobbsee> very nice
[01:46] <Hobbsee> i'd not found that link
[01:47] <_luors> hi all
[01:48] <_luors> is there any utility to list installed fonts in kubuntu ?
[01:51] <DHGE> _luors: kcontrol -> fonts ?
[01:54] <_luors> DHGE: i see. thank you :D
[01:55] <_luors> and ... is it possible to know which font is being used for a specific text on the screen ?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> night all
[02:04] <StephenZhao> night~~~
[02:17] <osh_> I've read that thing about reading dvd's in ubuntu (restricted formats wiki) but still I can't watch my dvd. I see the files but I can't play it. Anyone got any hints?
[02:21] <burepe> !skype
[02:21] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:29] <StephenZhao> osh,maybe you need a good player
[02:29] <osh_> StephenZhao: Tried Kaffeine, okle and vlc. No go in either of them. :-/
[02:30] <burepe> Who programs the bots to say the things they do? Like instead of the directions on how to install skype wouldn't it be easier to tell them to use the source-o-matic and enable the repo that has skype and then  download it using adept? It seems like a lot easier way to do it.
[02:31] <StephenZhao> osh_:try mplayer,kaffeine always crash
[02:32] <osh_> StephenZhao: Noted. Mplayer isn't in any of the repos though is it?
[02:40] <burepe> osh_, if you use the source o matic to get your repos you can get one that has mplayer
[02:40] <burepe> !repos
[02:40] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:40] <holger> #ruby_talk
[02:50] <burepe> Anyone know a clock that I can display more than one timezone at the same time?
[02:50] <Tm_T> burepe: Kicker has clock applet
[02:50] <burepe> kicker
[02:50] <burepe> ok
[02:50] <Tm_T> burepe: you can use several clocks in kicker each one using different timezone
[02:51] <Tm_T> burepe: kicker = panel
[02:51] <burepe> oh
[02:51] <burepe> i see
[02:51] <burepe> thanks
[02:51] <Tm_T> np
[02:51] <Tm_T> I use ~6 timezones in one clock, mousewheel toggles between zones
[02:51] <burepe> how do you do that?
[02:52] <burepe> man windows sucks compared to this stuff
[02:52] <jpat|away> burepe: easy
[02:52] <burepe> i have been looking for a good clock for ages
[02:52] <GreKom> re
[02:52] <Tm_T> burepe: rightclick on clock -> Show Timezone -> configure timezones
[02:52] <Tm_T> borky shift :/
[02:52] <burepe> that is awsome!
[02:52] <burepe> damn
[02:53] <GreKom> hello all, yes I see am now on right place
[02:53] <kakei> hey guys hi, i'm having troublings with KDE how can i proof it?
[02:53] <Tm_T> kakei: it depends, what kind of problem?
[02:53] <Tm_T> GreKom: hullo
[02:53] <GreKom> Tm_T, hello from Slovenia
[02:53] <GreKom> am new to Linux and Kubuntu
[02:54] <Tm_T> GreKom: hello from Finland :)
[02:54] <kakei> Tm_T it's not starting, i typed startx and Gnome start. i want to use KDE  i was using it but it stop working when i rebooted after modify my nvidia drivers
[02:54] <GreKom> Tm_T, hehe
[02:54] <Tm_T> kakei: uff, you get any login screen?
[02:54] <kakei> Tm_T no
[02:54] <kakei> i typed startx as i said and came here (Gnome)
[02:54] <jpat|away> burepe: nice clock: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14423
[02:55] <Tm_T> kakei: do this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:55] <GreKom> yes, yes, yes i did it
[02:56] <Tm_T> GreKom: soemthing we can help you with?
[02:56] <Tm_T> err, I can type very well today
[02:57] <GreKom> Tm_T, thanx, but I think I just managed to get Kubuntu and network working on my router
[02:57] <Tm_T> GreKom: oh sounds good
[02:57] <cold> Does anyone know what ubuntu runs on port 1026 and 1027?
[02:57] <Tm_T> cold: I think nothing
[02:57] <GreKom> my intent was, to ask her, but it runs now werry well
[02:57] <Tm_T> cold: why?
[02:57] <cold> I wanted to close them
[02:58] <Tm_T> cold: then close
[02:58] <cold> and was wondering what is running them so I can close it......
[02:58] <Tm_T> nothing by default IIRC so close :)
[02:58] <GreKom> Tm_T, it was hard work, my Apple does not need editing .conf files
[02:58] <fenoamby> hey
[02:58] <Tm_T> GreKom: yes, money talks etc
[02:58] <fenoamby> i need some help !
[02:59] <Tm_T> fenoamby: ok, please ask :)
[02:59] <GreKom> Tm_T, still better than windows ;)
[02:59] <Tm_T> kakei: if you got any luck or no, hint me
[02:59] <fenoamby> i just buy a USB HDD 2"1/2 Box and i put a disk in
[02:59] <Tm_T> GreKom: far better to me
[02:59] <fenoamby> but Kubu don t see my box
[03:00] <Tm_T> fenoamby: ah, install am-utils ?
[03:00] <fenoamby> i put it on my notebook with XP and no problem, then i format it on FAT32 but the same problem on Kubu
[03:00] <GreKom> Tm_T, hehehe, I tried to install server on NT4... crashed, hope I will have more luck in Kubuntu... any hints?
[03:00] <kakei> Tm_T done
[03:01] <Tm_T> GreKom: install what? :)
[03:01] <Tm_T> kakei: ok, you set kdem to default dm ?
[03:01] <fenoamby> Tm_T: sudo install am-utils  (install : so less arguments
[03:01] <Tm_T> kdm I mean
[03:01] <kakei> how do i set it? Tm_T
[03:01] <GreKom> Tm_T, FTP server fot home network
[03:01] <Tm_T> fenoamby: aye
[03:01] <Tm_T> kakei: uh, I thought it asked during install (if there was anything to install)
[03:02] <Tm_T> GreKom: ftp... how about ssh? I never liked ftp
[03:02] <GreKom> Tm_T, so I can have all MP3 files shared and backup on it
[03:02] <kakei> kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kubuntu-desktop
[03:02] <kakei>  what with it installed
[03:02] <fenoamby> it s a auto alimentation box (may be the problem ?)
[03:02] <GreKom> Tm_T, ssh?, I am newbee in those words
[03:03] <Tm_T> kakei: ah ok, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm"
[03:03] <kakei> Tm_T i get errors
[03:03] <Tm_T> GreKom: it's secure shell, but you can use it to transfer files or what ever
[03:03] <djk_> kakei:  you can edit the /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to kdm or dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:04] <Tm_T> djk_: that too
[03:04] <Tm_T> kakei: what errors?
[03:04] <GreKom> Tm_T, I used to be windows user (some kind of guru for people around me), but those worms forced me to buy an old G4... it improved my life (more time for other stuff)
[03:04] <Tm_T> heh
[03:04] <kakei> Tm_T =( they'r on spanish my ubuntu is on spanish
[03:04] <kakei> djk_ kakei@kakei:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:04] <kakei> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[03:05] <Tm_T> kakei: shut down synaptic or whatever youre using
[03:05] <djk_> what he said^^;)
[03:05] <kakei> i did
[03:05] <fenoamby> Tm_T:  with XP i format the disk in FAT32 but i don t think it s the problem
[03:05] <burepe> Man that clock is bad!
[03:05] <Tm_T> fenoamby: it's not
[03:05] <burepe> Bad as in good
[03:05] <burepe> i mean
[03:05] <burepe> sorry
[03:05] <jpat|away> burepe: well yeah :)
[03:05] <burepe> that was confusing
[03:06] <fenoamby> Tm_T:  i don t have problem with my other external box or with my usb key
[03:06] <Tm_T> fenoamby: have you installed that am-utils ?
[03:06] <burepe> like bad ass
[03:06] <Tm_T> fenoamby: oh :o
[03:06] <Tm_T> fenoamby: then.. I don't know :/
[03:06] <burepe> thanks yall
[03:06] <burepe> you made my day
[03:06] <Tm_T> burepe: np, have a good time with KDE :)
[03:06] <GreKom> Tm_T, ok thanks for chatting... I will list this channel in my bookmarks, if I would need any help. Looks like you have enough to do with support ;)
[03:06] <Tm_T> GreKom: ;)
[03:07] <GreKom> ok folks, CA
[03:07] <Tm_T> hmm, let's see if kakei gets it working... =)
[03:09] <kakei> Tm_T i keep getting the same and nothing is usin apt-get / synaptic
[03:09] <kakei> Tm_T but maybe i can download then via synaptic how do i do?
[03:10] <fenoamby> Tm_T:  possible the hddBox incompatible with Linux ?
[03:10] <woul> hello fellows
[03:10] <Tm_T> fenoamby: can't see why, but possible
[03:10] <woul> does anyone play planeshift
[03:11] <fenoamby> Tm_T: on the notice : compatible with 98/me/2000/XP and mac 8.6 or higher
[03:11] <Tm_T> kakei: you probably does have kdm already installed, so just change that config
[03:11] <kakei> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:11] <kakei>  ?
[03:11] <kakei> but.
[03:11] <Tm_T> fenoamby: does it have separate drivers with it?
[03:11] <woul> im having problems on instalation/configuration...
[03:11] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:11] <kakei> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[03:11] <fenoamby> Tm_T:  drivers for win98
[03:11] <Tm_T> fenoamby: then it should work just fine in linux
[03:11] <fenoamby> Tm_T:  drivers for win98 and mac
[03:12] <kakei> Tm_T i will reboot
[03:12] <kakei> let se
[03:12] <kakei> let see
[03:12] <Tm_T> that reminds me, I should reboot too
[03:12] <djk_> why
[03:13] <LjL> ops: i'm being asked why 200.109.0.0 is banned
[03:13] <LjL> err, though actually that's on #ubuntu, wrong channel :)
[03:14] <djk_> you were close ;)
[03:15] <Tm_T> djk_: dapper -> new updates, would be good to get them running properly :)
[03:15] <djk_> i suppose :)
[03:16] <Tm_T> but that later
[03:16] <Tm_T> have to finish compiling koffice
[03:16] <djk_> what are the requirements for koffice?
[03:17] <djk_> i just bought a p2-450 2 days ago.. and OOo2 most certainly will take a minute +n to start
[03:17] <Tm_T> KOffice is lighter
[03:17] <Tm_T> much ligher
[03:17] <Tm_T> +t
[03:17] <djk_> of course.. no java :)
[03:18] <Tm_T> well, compare 1M lines of code to 6M lines of code
[03:18] <Tm_T> approx
[03:18] <Tm_T> if I don't remember totally wrong
[03:19] <fenoamby> Tm_T:  i find the problem
[03:19] <jubei> Hello, has there been a fix for the known issue of amarok crashing when playing some mp3s?
[03:19] <Tm_T> fenoamby: oh, what is it?
[03:19] <Tm_T> jubei: what version of amaroK, what engine
[03:20] <kakei> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: kdm is broken or isnt fully installed
[03:20] <fenoamby> Tm_T: i put the usb behind my tower and linux detect my box
[03:20] <Tm_T> jubei: first, make sure you have the lates Kubuntu packages: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[03:20] <Tm_T> kakei: :o
[03:20] <djk_> kakei: then reinstall.
[03:20] <djk_> kakei: kdm i mean
[03:20] <jubei> Tm_T: ill check now its the one that came with breezy
[03:20] <Tm_T> fenoamby: heh :)
[03:20] <kakei> how do i reinstall i forget the command ? djk_
[03:20] <Tm_T> jubei: too old, upgrade
[03:20] <Tm_T> kakei: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[03:20] <fenoamby> Tm_T: if someone have the same problem with auto alimentate  box
[03:20] <jubei> Tm_T: ok, um so my local mirror must have not upated yet?
[03:21] <Tm_T> jubei: no, look that url I gave, that's provided separately
[03:21] <kakei> Tm_T done o.o
[03:21] <Tm_T> kakei: no errors?
[03:21] <kakei> now i can reconfigure
[03:21] <Tm_T> good
[03:21] <kakei> how do i switch?
[03:21] <djk_> switch what
[03:21] <kakei> to kde
[03:21] <Tm_T> it asks if you have multiple DM:s
[03:22] <jubei> Tm_T: ok thanks, so the file from the url you gave me doesn get sent to my local mirror?
[03:22] <kakei> control alt backspace?
[03:22] <Tm_T> jubei: yes
[03:22] <Tm_T> kakei: just log out
[03:22] <Tm_T> let me guess, he doesn't remember "session" selection ;)
[03:22] <djk_> probably not
[03:23] <djk_> probably doesn't know how to wait for an answer either
[03:23] <Tm_T> hehe
[03:23] <Tm_T> so typical, glad I'm in good mood atm
[03:23] <jubei> Tm_T: where can I check for updated deb files in the future?
[03:23] <djk_> me too :)
[03:23] <Tm_T> jubei: http://kubuntu.org/
[03:24] <nesta> hello
[03:24] <nesta> does anyone here have a good book recommendation for a nix noob ?
[03:24] <djk_> linux for dummies..
[03:24] <Tm_T> nesta: yes, "Linux For Dummies"
[03:24] <djk_> eh..
[03:24] <Tm_T> it's funny :)
[03:24] <djk_> really?
[03:24] <Tm_T> yes
[03:25] <djk_> never read one of the dummies books
[03:25] <Tm_T> that's only one I've ever read
[03:25] <djk_> what does it teach?
[03:25] <Tm_T> fun and simple, basic commandline stuff
[03:26] <djk_> ah.. bought a book with all CLI commands listed and explained.. sort of like a quick reference.. when i started with linux.
[03:26] <Tm_T> djk_: it can't have _all_
[03:26] <Tm_T> not even half
[03:27] <Tm_T> but maybe most needed ones :)
[03:27] <kakei> Tm_T i dont see the configuration erm h
[03:27] <Tm_T> kakei: ?
[03:27] <Tm_T> you got that login screen now?
[03:27] <djk_> Tm_T: i know.. but i think 500 pages include _enough_ to survive ;)
[03:27] <kakei> i mean i dont see the screen so i cant choose bewteen gnome or KDE i just type startx and start Gnome
[03:27] <Tm_T> djk_: yes, basics :)
[03:28] <djk_> i suppose it's in finnish?
[03:28] <Tm_T> over 1000 pages and still only basic stuff
[03:29] <Tm_T> djk_: english
[03:29] <nesta> is linux for dummies good for kubuntu too ?
[03:29] <burepe> I am using skype and if my mic and line in are off in Kmix I can call people. If one of them is on it says problem with sound device, The faq doesn't mention this problem,but maybe I am missing it. Any suggestions?
[03:29] <Tm_T> nesta: sure
[03:29] <nesta> awesome
[03:29] <nesta> im going to go buy it
[03:29] <nesta> =] 
[03:29] <Tm_T> hehe
[03:29] <nesta> thanks!
[03:29] <Tm_T> nesta: better: use library ;)
[03:29] <nesta> hehe
[03:30] <nesta> i collect books :p
[03:30] <jose> hi Spanish people here?
[03:30] <burepe> !spanish
[03:30] <ubotu> hmm... spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[03:31] <nesta> hehe
[03:31] <Tm_T> aye
[03:31] <kakei> Tm_T help me =(
[03:31] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~$  /etc/init.d/kdm start
[03:31] <kakei> Starting K Display Manager: kdmOnly root wants to run kdm
[03:31] <kakei>  already running.
[03:31] <kakei> isn't that weird?
[03:31] <jubei> Tm_T: thanks for your help, seems to be working now
[03:32] <Tm_T> it's weird that you don't go to kdm directly from boot
[03:32] <Tm_T> jubei: np
[03:32] <Tm_T> jubei: it works now?
[03:33] <Tm_T> kakei: you're not supposed to need to start kdm or X separately
[03:33] <jubei> Tm_T: yep. Same songs no longer crash amarok.
[03:33] <kakei> Tm_T rgg =(
[03:34] <Tm_T> jubei: very good
[03:34] <Tm_T> jubei: I use devel version of amaroK, works just fine :)
[03:35] <jubei> Tm_T: I see, i'm curious as to how the latest packeges are dribbled to the mirrors.
[03:36] <jubei> Tm_T: like I tried apt-get update but newer versions of amarok didnt show up
[03:36] <Tm_T> jubei: dunno, ask from Riddell :)
[03:36] <jubei> Tm_T: K
[03:36] <jpat|away> jubei: sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:37] <kakei> Tm_T any idea ? maybe if i delete KDE and i REINSTALL it?
[03:37] <jubei> jpat|away: I thought that was for updating to a new version like from hoary to breezy?
[03:37] <Tm_T> jubei: nope
[03:37] <jpat|away> jubei: no it isn't
[03:37] <Tm_T> jubei: update just updates package lists, upgrade upgrades ;)
[03:38] <jubei> I see, so will it upgrade all my programs?
[03:38] <jpatrick> jubei: yes
[03:38] <jubei> ahh see I dont want that
[03:38] <kakei> Tm_T ?
[03:38] <jubei> I only upgrade If I want a feature or need to fix a bug
[03:38] <Tm_T> jubei: and basic idea why some newer KDE app versions are in different repository is that Ubuntu has its release policy
[03:38] <reagleBRKLN> what linux util can unpack a sit/hqx?
[03:39] <Tm_T> jubei: actually you should upgrade always ;)
[03:39] <jubei> ;) for what reasons?
[03:39] <Tm_T> jubei: because inside release they only get bug fix upgrades
[03:39] <Tm_T> as long as you use breezy repositories, you only get bug fixes
[03:39] <Tm_T> mainly
[03:40] <Tm_T> kakei: no reinstall to kde, that's not kde issue
[03:40] <kakei> and who issue? x_x
[03:40] <Tm_T> kakei: what happens first after boot, you end up to console?
[03:41] <kakei> after boot i got a black screen like a big console
[03:41] <Tm_T> hmm, doesn't sound right
[03:41] <Tm_T> kakei: ok, and after reinstalling kdm, did you reboot?
[03:42] <kakei> Tm_T yes
[03:42] <Tm_T> hmm
[03:42] <Tm_T> can you try this: "sudo apt-get remove gdm"
[03:42] <jubei> Ok I may as well ask in here now. Why doesnt my windows key work any more? Ever since I upgraded to breezy my amarok shortcuts dont work. Like windows key + c for pause.
[03:42] <Tm_T> jubei: it supposed to work
[03:43] <jubei> Tm_T: indeed :)
[03:43] <jpatrick> kakei: maybe `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[03:43] <kakei> Tm_T if i do that i remove gnome and i will no have Graphix
[03:43] <Tm_T> ...
[03:43] <Tm_T> kakei: no, gnome is not (or should not) depend to gdm
[03:45] <Tm_T> jpatrick: hmm, but if gnome works :o
[03:45] <Tm_T> kakei: jpatrick: I leave you two to look this thing now, good luck :) ->
[03:46] <jpatrick> hmmm
[03:46] <kakei> jpactrick i reconfigure
[03:46] <kakei> i must restart gnome to see?
[03:47] <jpatrick> kakei: restart X
[03:47] <kakei> k brb
[03:49] <jpatrick> hi libben
[03:49] <skript> let's say I install breezy and also install packages from non-official package repositories... what happens if I later do dist-upgrade to dapper ? will it remove all those 'unofficial' packages ?
[03:49] <libben> sup
[03:49] <libben> hmm
[03:49] <libben> is freenode attacked
[03:50] <libben> i can see its been mysterious connection against freenode all time.
[03:50] <jpatrick> libben: yes
[03:50] <libben> ooh. ok. that explains it then
[03:50] <jpatrick> http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[03:52] <burepe> what do the bots do exactly
[03:52] <jpatrick> burepe: flood the server, etc
[03:56] <zajacslv> heh dupa
[04:05] <burepe> jpatrick, thanks. Why do people do that? I guess that is a silly question but really, why?
[04:06] <jpatrick> burepe: no idea
[04:11] <kakei> hey
[04:12] <kakei> who was the guy helping me ? jpactrick?
[04:14] <kakei> who was the guy helping me ? jpactrick? yuhu!
[04:15] <jpatrick> kakei: hello
[04:15] <jpatrick> sorry I was adding things to Wikipedia
[04:17] <ganymed_> hallo. i cannot log into kde other than with root... it happened first after a crash of the power supply system (an outside issue). the pc switched off. after switching it on again, i can start kdm (since it is run by root), but i cannot login excep with root. any ides?
[04:17] <ganymed_> ideas
[04:17] <Balooo> hi does  anybady  know  what   this  means  ?  64.36.1147 Pci cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:19:0
[04:19] <jpatrick> brb
[04:25] <kakei> jpatrick how can i reinstall Kubuntu_desktop
[04:25] <jpatrick> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <kakei> jpatrick it doesnt download anythin
[04:29] <ep> My clock's not set to show seconds. What applet or app might I use to ballpark time stuff.  For instance, the amount of time it takes openoffice to load.
[04:31] <ep> Stupid question I know but what the heck. I notice theres a tea timer in kdetoys but this isn't appropiate for the task.
[04:39] <billiko> hello everybody
[04:40] <billiko> can i speak with somebody?
[04:41] <billiko> what is kubuntu? is it different from ubuntu?
[04:42] <djk_> kubuntu= kde+ubuntu base, ubuntu = Gnome + ubuntu base
[04:42] <djk_> kubuntu is the better choice ;)
[04:43] <billiko> sorry, but if i use ubuntu i haven't kde, have i?
[04:43] <jpatrick> according to most people :)
[04:43] <jpatrick> billiko: you can install it from Ubuntu
[04:43] <djk_> billiko: no, but you can easily install it
[04:43] <billiko> kubuntu is different only for the kde from ubuntu?
[04:44] <kakei> hi guys
[04:44] <djk_> well, not _just_ kde.. also kde progs instead of gnome progs..
[04:44] <kakei> im talking in irssi
[04:44] <kakei> i dont have graphix
[04:44] <billiko> so kubuntu is better.....
[04:44] <MrMazda> may VCs keep getting flooded with this junk: [4294880.753000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[04:44] <MrMazda> s/may/my/
[04:44] <kakei> i think i need to pastebin something to show u guys how can i pastebin without graphix?
[04:44] <billiko> but is there any version of kubuntu in italian?
[04:45] <djk_> billiko: kde is better than gnome because kde is kde ;)
[04:45] <djk_> billiko: yes..
[04:45] <billiko> which version^?
[04:45] <billiko> downloadable from where^
[04:45] <billiko> ?
[04:45] <MrMazda> anyone know how to fix broken tty[1-6] ?
[04:46] <djk_> all, apt..
[04:46] <billiko> sorry...i do't understand..... can i find any italian version of kubuntu?
[04:46] <billiko> because there is a version of ubuntu expressily italian....
[04:47] <billiko> ......
[04:47] <billiko> no answer?
[04:47] <kakei> djk_ i'm without X i cant startx with the error ' no screens found'
[04:48] <jpatrick> billiko: `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[04:48] <billiko> jpatrick i would link to download the entrie package
[04:48] <billiko> because i haven't installed anyversion of ubuntu yet
[04:48] <kakei> jpatrick : im without X i cant startx , error : no screens found
[04:48] <billiko> i would like to*
[04:49] <Chousuke> billiko: there is no italian installation CD of ubuntu. but
[04:49] <Chousuke> after you install ubuntu, you can set it up to be in Italian.
[04:49] <kakei> some1 help me =(
[04:49] <jpatrick> billiko: `sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-it' for KDE Italian
[04:50] <billiko> Chousuke as happens in mandrake
[04:50] <billiko> where you select the language
[04:50] <jpatrick> kakei: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' again
[04:50] <billiko> from the installation menu?
[04:50] <Chousuke> billiko: yeah. I guess.
[04:50] <jpatrick> billiko: you can set it in the installer
[04:50] <billiko> ahhh ok thanks
[04:50] <Delvien> Anyone here experienced with KXdocker?
[04:50] <billiko> i'm downloading kubuntu and ubuntupi!
[04:50] <billiko> i'm downloading kubuntu and ubuntu+!
[04:51] <billiko> what is better for you? kubuntu or mandriva?
[04:51] <BigKahuna> Anybody have KSmoothDock working with Kubuntu
[04:51] <jpatrick> Mandriva sucks
[04:51] <jpatrick> Delvien: I'm the KXDocker packager for Kubuntu
[04:52] <Delvien> jpatrick ah cool
[04:52] <jpatrick> billiko: I hate the changes they've done to KDE
[04:52] <Delvien> jpatrick can you tell me how to make KXdocker now show the current running apps? and only be a docker? or is there not a way to do that
[04:52] <GreKom> re
[04:52] <billiko> jpatrick which kind of changing?
[04:52] <kakei> jpatrick : it said is locked by other process
[04:52] <jpatrick> Delvien: show taskbar in dock?
[04:53] <Delvien> jpatrick aye thats it
[04:53] <alberto> buenas
[04:53] <GreKom> well, I thnik I really messed it this time... kubuntu wont boot
[04:53] <mrsunshine> humm, how was this with the root pass in ubuntu ? :>
[04:53] <mrsunshine> i cant figure it out :>
[04:53] <alberto> alguien de espaa?
[04:53] <alberto> SPAIN??
[04:53] <jpatrick> alberto: #kubuntu-es
[04:53] <ganymed_>  my question: Is it normal that /etc/X11/Xsession has to be set to xwr for ALL users?
[04:54] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: it's your password
[04:54] <GreKom> anyone knows how to fix problems with wrong drive assigment?
[04:54] <mrsunshine> but last i tried i couldnt log in :>
[04:54] <mrsunshine> and ic ant find the stupid terminal :P
[04:54] <mrsunshine> like first time i use kde :P
[04:54] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: couldn't log in as root?
[04:54] <Chousuke> Riddell_: you can't login as root. :p
[04:54] <Chousuke> eh
[04:54] <mrsunshine> atleast i cant su
[04:54] <mrsunshine> su: Authentication failure
[04:54] <Chousuke> Riddell_: never mind.
[04:55] <Chousuke> mrsunshine: use sudo
[04:55] <alberto> THKS!
[04:55] <Delvien> jpatrick know how to do it?
[04:55] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: why login as root?
[04:55] <mrsunshine> ohh
[04:55] <mrsunshine> jpatrick: can always be good? :>
[04:55] <GreKom> Tm_T, still good in typing?
[04:55] <jpatrick> Delvien: isn't it in the options?
[04:55] <mrsunshine> when you want to do something more then just one command at a time
[04:55] <billiko> why he can't use the command su?
[04:55] <mrsunshine> and yeah .. why doesnt su work? :<
[04:55] <billiko> isn't there the root access?
[04:55] <jpatrick> mrsunshine & billiko : use sudo!!
[04:55] <Delvien> jpatrick no
[04:56] <billiko> yes but why?
[04:56] <kakei> 1.0.7676but this X module is version 1.0.8174 . please be sure that your kernel
[04:56] <mrsunshine> jpatrick: sure .. but WHY doesnt su work? :P
[04:56] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: coz it's being patched
[04:56] <jpatrick> see: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RootSudo
[04:57] <billiko> uhmmm so ubuntu has still to grow....
[04:57] <coolio10> hi
[04:57] <jpatrick> billiko: it's been like that since day 1
[04:57] <mrsunshine> ihumm :>
[04:57] <jpatrick> and it ain't gonna change
[04:57] <GreKom> heyya, sorry to disturb the conversation
[04:58] <coolio10> how can i get shockwave installed into firefox? Before it automatically detected the plugin and installed shockwave but now it says unknown plugin and takes me to makers website
[04:58] <mrsunshine> argh . .powernowd .. how to configure :P
[04:58] <GreKom> I cant get Kubutnu to work anymore... I messed around with disks
[04:58] <zvodd> if i give a group read access to a folder and then add a user to that group, the user should be able to read the folder, right? or am i missing the point of groups?
[04:59] <GreKom> anyno know how to fix it?
[04:59] <coolio10> i just added all the seconday groups to my user
[04:59] <kakei> guys look at this : Error Api : mismath the Nvidia Kernel module is version
[04:59] <kakei> hey guys pls help me with this i'm using ubuntu breezy and i cant startx the error is : Api missmatch  the nvidia kernel is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version  1.0.8174. please be sure that your kernel
[05:01] <mrsunshine> and why the freaking **** does my hardrive work all the time? :/
[05:01] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: isnt' it suppose to?
[05:01] <mrsunshine> not when im idle
[05:01] <mrsunshine> its nagging on something
[05:01] <mrsunshine> but i dont know what
[05:02] <kakei> hey guys pls help me, i cant startx the error is : Api missmatch  the nvidia kernel is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version  1.0.8174. please be sure that your kernel
[05:04] <_nano_> My konqueror is behaving erraticaly while web browsing, could anyone suggest me some settings changes that I could use?
[05:04] <zvodd> how do i set a static ip address? which conf file would i find those settings in?
[05:05] <_nano_> zvodd: /etc/network/interaces?
[05:05] <GreKom> hey, can I repair my drive sttings from command line?
[05:07] <mrsunshine> anyone using powernowd?
[05:07] <mrsunshine> i realy need to get one of my hardrives shut off .. it sounds like a thousand needles :P
[05:11] <BigKahuna> jpatrick, I  saw your earlier post re KXDocker, can KXDocker be configured to act only as an application launcher  and not show running applications?
[05:12] <knubbe> anyone who can recommend a good gui for subversion?
[05:12] <_zvodd> do i change the line "iface eth1 inet dhcp" to "iface eth1 inet 192.168.1.53/24" to make my ip address static?
[05:12] <knubbe> is rapidsvn THE one to use?
[05:12] <jpatrick> knubbe: kdesvn
[05:13] <jpatrick> BigKahuna: not too sure
[05:13] <kakei> hey guys  i did 'sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx' and them 'sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx' now i get : Caught Signal 11. Server Aborting
[05:14] <knubbe> jpatrick: thank you
[05:15] <jpatrick> BigKahuna: it doesn't have to show running apps
[05:15] <BigKahuna> jpatrick, ok, so how do I disable that then.
[05:16] <BigKahuna> jpatrick, default installation shows running apps in the dock.
[05:16] <jpatrick> BigKahuna: I know it's in the configuration somewhere....
[05:16] <gverig> Can I have only one panel in KDE or can I add more?
[05:16] <LjL> you can add as many as you wish
[05:16] <LjL> just right click on the present panel
[05:17] <mrsunshine> ehm .. no mplayer?!
[05:17] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: most people don't dare to package that app
[05:18] <mrsunshine> why ?
[05:18] <jpatrick> it's horrible to package
[05:18] <mrsunshine> its the best media player out there imo :/
[05:18] <jpatrick> mrsunshine: i think's mplayer-386
[05:19] <tobi> is the qt in (k)ubuntu (Breezy Badger) compiled with tablet support?
[05:19] <mrsunshine> i cant find any packages that is named even close to mplayer :>
[05:20] <Watje> Hello everyone! KDE thinks cups isn't running, but it actually is! Look at http://dionyxus.nl/cups.png for some more info. Does anyone knows what is wrong?
[05:20] <McScruff> mrsunshine , i installed automatrix then installed it
[05:21] <McScruff> mplayer is in repos tho
[05:22] <_pp> mrsunshine : have you enabled the universe  multiverse repositories ?
[05:22] <[miles] > evening all
[05:22] <mrsunshine> _pp: trying to figure out how to do it atm :P
[05:22] <[miles] > I'm trying to install K9Copy
[05:23] <McScruff> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <gverig> LjL: Thanks!
[05:23] <[miles] > found with http://repos.knio.it/ , but when I go to install it via adept it says "Breaks"
[05:23] <McScruff> it wil then open the repos, then just remove the # by the ones you want to use, then save
[05:24] <[miles] > any ideas how I get it installed please?
[05:24] <McScruff> compile it?
[05:25] <McScruff> mrsunshine , did you get it?
[05:25] <[miles] > well I'd like a repo that works with Kubuntu...
[05:25] <McScruff> there might not be pre-compiled packages for everything :S
[05:25] <[miles] > when it's saying "Break" it does not give me any info as to what it's breaking!
[05:25] <mrsunshine> McScruff: no .. i dont know what reps to enable
[05:26] <mrsunshine> as none of them matches the one in the "tutorial" :>
[05:26] <McScruff> mrsunshine , in a konsole type "sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:26] <McScruff> it will open kwrite with the sources
[05:26] <_pp> mrsunshine : look here and use "kate" instead of "gedit" ... http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php#repositories
[05:26] <McScruff> _pp , ^^i use kwrite :P
[05:27] <_nano_> anyone upgraded to 3,5?
[05:27] <McScruff> yes
[05:27] <_nano_> McScruff: did you face any dependency problems for some applications?
[05:27] <McScruff> _nano_ , what programs?, i havent yet
[05:28] <_pp> McScruff : :) ok ... the idea is to use something that is installed with kubuntu... kate, kwrite ...
[05:28] <_nano_> McScruff: akregator, kmail etc.
[05:28] <deemo> anyone here know where i can get the mod_dav_svn.so file for subversion?
[05:28] <McScruff> mrsunshine , once kwrite / kate is open just remove the # by the ones you want to use and save, then sudo apt-get update
[05:28] <mrsunshine> well what ones do i want to use that is the million dollar question
[05:29] <McScruff> _nano_ , i havent tried them, but no problems anywhere else, i will try kmail now
[05:29] <McScruff> mrsunshine , universe
[05:29] <McScruff> _nano_ akregator is working fine :S
[05:30] <_pp> mrsunshine: those with universe and/or multiverse in it
[05:30] <_nano_> McScruff: no I meant while upgrading
[05:30] <_nano_> McScruff: but they are working nevertheless for me too, although i'm not sure if everything is right
[05:30] <[miles] > http://archive.czessi.net/pool/breezy/testing/i386/
[05:30] <[miles] > found a repo if anyone else is intrested
[05:31] <_nano_> [miles] : what's special about this repo?
[05:31] <McScruff> _nano_ , tbh i never use them, but the programs i do use are fine, never had problems :S
[05:31] <[miles] > has K9Copy for Kubuntu on
[05:31] <McScruff> im looking for the latest klibido (too lazy to build tbh)
[05:32] <hugelmopf> [miles] : what is your sources.list line for this repo?
[05:32] <[miles] > deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy testing
[05:32] <_nano_> McScruff: my konqueror has also become erratic while web browsing, unlike other browsers which are working fine
[05:32] <hugelmopf> [miles] : thanks.
[05:32] <[miles] > yw
[05:32] <McScruff> _nano_ mine was fine whie i upgraded and after upgrade
[05:33] <mrsunshine> yay got some more packages .. and now i just hope all these have amd64 versions? :P
[05:33] <T3hWiz0rd> jesus is here!
[05:33] <_nano_> McScruff: you used the repo announced in the kubuntu site right?
[05:33] <T3hWiz0rd> :-P
[05:33] <_nano_> DJ_Mer_: howdy!
[05:33] <McScruff> _nano_ , yep
[05:33] <T3hWiz0rd> _nano_: im on teh wizord right now nan
[05:33] <Insomniac-> T3hWiz0rd: my new comp arrived \o.
[05:34] <Insomniac-> \o/
[05:34] <Insomniac-> heh
[05:34] <T3hWiz0rd> Insomniac-: YEAH! \m/
[05:34] <_nano_> Insomniac-: congrats ! :D
[05:34] <Insomniac-> now i just need a case
[05:34] <Insomniac-> hehe
[05:34] <T3hWiz0rd> heh
[05:34] <T3hWiz0rd> mail me the old one :-P
[05:34] <T3hWiz0rd> im a packrat
[05:35] <_nano_> Insomniac-: natural cooling, why use a case :)
[05:35] <Insomniac-> although it does run fine on this cardbox box
[05:35] <T3hWiz0rd> hahaha
[05:35] <mrsunshine> FINALY some sweet sweet music
[05:37] <T3hWiz0rd> _nano_: i just got yelled at for being tired :-\
[05:37] <T3hWiz0rd> _nano_: i was asleep for crying out loud
[05:37] <_nano_> T3hWiz0rd: lol
[05:37] <T3hWiz0rd> its like... well just go die woman
[05:38] <mrsunshine> ubotu: tell me about powernowd
[05:39] <mrsunshine> does that work? :>
[05:39] <mrsunshine> yay
[05:39] <_nano_> !powernowd
[05:39] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, _nano_
[05:39] <mrsunshine> !powernowd
[05:39] <T3hWiz0rd> british bot?
[05:39] <T3hWiz0rd> "I haven't a clue"??
[05:39] <mrsunshine> jaha :P
[05:39] <mrsunshine> ohh :>
[05:39] <mrsunshine> didnt notice that
[05:39] <mrsunshine> !powernow
[05:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mrsunshine
[05:39] <T3hWiz0rd> lmao
[05:39] <_nano_> lmao
[05:39] <mrsunshine> ubotu: tell me about powernow
[05:39] <T3hWiz0rd> !ubotu love?
[05:39] <mrsunshine> bah :>
[05:39] <_nano_> !powernow
[05:39] <ubotu> T3hWiz0rd: I give up, what is it?
[05:40] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[05:40] <_nano_> haha
[05:40] <T3hWiz0rd> i really don't know ubotu
[05:42] <T3hWiz0rd> ubotu PMed me
[05:42] <ubotu> T3hWiz0rd: Not a clue
[05:42] <T3hWiz0rd> ... ifeel creepy now
[05:44] <kakei_> Hey guys how can i delete all the stuff of nvidia to reinstall it , finnally i started X (gnome, i want KDE Back)
[05:48] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:49] <_nano_> I can't get my tranparency settings to work, any idea if there's anything more I need to do?
[05:49] <T3hWiz0rd> _nano_: transparency...pfft... wtf is this windows?
[05:49] <_nano_> T3hWiz0rd: no in KDE
[05:50] <_nano_> T3hWiz0rd: need some eye candies to keep me motivated for doing my work :D
[05:50] <T3hWiz0rd> _nano_: i know i know.... i was trying to should like a headless elitist
[05:50] <T3hWiz0rd> but of course you RUINED it.. jerk :-P
[05:50] <_nano_> T3hWiz0rd: haha
[05:50] <T3hWiz0rd> now i've gotta go kill myself
[05:50] <T3hWiz0rd> i'll be back in 5
[05:52] <T3hWiz0rd> okay wow
[05:53] <_alex> hey, im having trouble setting up my wlan, have installed ndiswrapper fine.. but I cant seem to see my access point, any ideas?
[05:53] <T3hWiz0rd> my little brother just poured a bowl of cerial so big i think ti'll eat him... americans do eat toom uch
[05:53] <Watje> Hello everyone! KDE thinks cups isn't running, but actually it is! Look at http://dionyxus.nl/cups.png for some more info. Does anyone knows what is wrong?
[05:54] <MrSunshine> "adept-updater" "You n eed to run this application as root to make ny use of it"
[05:55] <MrSunshine> ffs what is this :/
[05:56] <_nano_> I didn't see much difference between 3.4 and 3.5
[05:56] <MrSunshine> going to reboot :P
[05:56] <_nano_> MrSunshine: wait hang on
[05:56] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[05:57] <jpatrick> MrSunshine: run it with kdesu
[05:57] <_nano_> MrSunshine: use alt+f2, kdesu adept-updater
[05:57] <_nano_> yeah
[05:57] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[05:57] <T3hWiz0rd> "going to reboot"
[05:57] <T3hWiz0rd> lmao.....
[05:58] <arnieboy> got a question
[05:59] <arnieboy> how do I make konqueror show me the tree and meta data on the left?
[05:59] <T3hWiz0rd> WAEFKI
[05:59] <arnieboy> it only shows me one window with folders in it
[05:59] <_john> anyone knows why is mplayer-custom libavcodec2 dependent, when that package isn't in any of repositories ?
[06:00] <T3hWiz0rd> WAEFKI
[06:00] <zv_odd> what is the command to delete a file?
[06:00] <_john> rm
[06:00] <zv_odd> ty
[06:00] <hugelmopf> arnieboy: did you start it as web-browser or file-manager (e.g. via System)?
[06:01] <arnieboy> hugelmopf, as file manager
[06:01] <MrSunshine> ough .. how do i make kde NOT use arts? .. i have a hw mixing sound card
[06:01] <hugelmopf> arnieboy: usually F9 will give you the left bar, but it should be there for konqueror, the file manager
[06:01] <MrSunshine> it sucks 90% of my cpu :>
[06:01] <KarnaK81> Hey! could someone tell me how i can fing drivers for my soundblaster audigy 4?? im new on Linux
[06:01] <KarnaK81> find*
[06:01] <arnieboy> aaah thanks a lot hugelmopf F9 did it.. but it was not turned on by default
[06:02] <arnieboy> how come they dont have this option anywhere in settings?
[06:02] <hugelmopf> arnieboy: you can configure the filemanager to your needs and the save the profile.
[06:02] <hugelmopf> *then
[06:02] <_nano_> brb
[06:02] <arnieboy> i cudnt find this option anywhere in konqueror settings
[06:04] <hugelmopf> this is not part of the settings, but part of the view profile, you should find it under "Window" i believe
[06:06] <hugelmopf> KarnaK81: what is the output of "lsmod | grep emu10k1" ?
[06:07] <KarnaK81> hugelmopf: i only get soundcard unknown when type lsmod -s
[06:09] <hugelmopf> KarnaK81: "lsmod" does not have the option "-s", as far as i know. the module for your soundcard should be called something like "snd-emu10k1" and be loaded automatically. does the soundcard not work?
[06:09] <deFrysk> KarnaK81, do you use or have a build in soundchip in your mobo ?
[06:09] <Delvien> jpatrick i cant find a install package for KXdocker, i removed old one ( was corrupt i think, ) and when i downloadd it from XIA project and install it it doesnt install (unpacking kxdocker, setting up Kxdocker) then when i try to run it it says there is no such command
[06:10] <jpatrick> Delvien: the package I did is in Dapper
[06:10] <jpatrick> awaiting backport
[06:10] <KarnaK81> deFrysk: i have a built in, but i disabled it when i got my audigy 4 PCI
[06:11] <Delvien> jpatrick do you find KXdocker to be laggy?
[06:11] <deFrysk> KarnaK81, also disabled in your bios ?
[06:11] <jpatrick> Delvien: yeah
[06:11] <KarnaK81> deFrysk: yes
[06:11] <deFrysk> ok
[06:11] <KarnaK81> hugelmopf: no the sound doesnt work at all
[06:11] <hugelmopf> KarnaK81: could you give me the output that i asked you earlier for?
[06:12] <ilba7r> do i need to add a repos to install kde 3.5
[06:13] <deFrysk> ilba7r, yes
[06:13] <ilba7r> i do not see it in the header of the room
[06:13] <ilba7r> so what is the repos than
[06:13] <deFrysk> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main
[06:13] <deFrysk> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.7 breezy main
[06:13] <deFrysk> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice142 breezy mai
[06:13] <deFrysk> +n
[06:13] <MrSunshine> one good thing about ubuntu .. not that much fuss getting it installed. .all tho i kinda messed up my disks because of a corrupted cd :P
[06:13] <hugelmopf> ilba7r: in the header there is a  link, where you can find the repo.
[06:14] <ilba7r> thanx
[06:14] <Delvien> is it worth the trouble for 3.5?
[06:14] <deFrysk> ilba7r, instead of kde-latest you can also use kde3.5
[06:15] <deFrysk> Delvien, depends on your bandwith
[06:15] <ilba7r> thanx again i just added them to the sources list
[06:15] <Delvien> deFrysk what do you mean?
[06:15] <T3hWiz0rd> america is so focused on deluded reality that even the real world here has become a cheesey sequel. Hello "Vietnam II: War in the Desert." staring George Wya
[06:16] <deFrysk> Delvien, if you have a fast connection its a breeze
[06:16] <deFrysk> at least it was for me that is
[06:16] <Delvien> defrysk aye i do
[06:16] <Delvien> How do i get a puglik key?
[06:17] <ilba7r> so which is better installing kde or kubuntu if there is a diff?
[06:17] <Delvien> deFrysk http://pastebin.com/467997
[06:17] <jpatrick> Delvien: Use KGpg
[06:18] <deFrysk> ilba7r, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:18] <ilba7r> thanx again
[06:18] <deFrysk> and for more ; http://kubuntu.org/announcements/
[06:19] <Delvien> jpatrick how do i do that?
[06:19] <kakei> amigos
[06:19] <kakei> estoy en kde :D
[06:19] <jpatrick> Delvien: install it
[06:19] <jpatrick> and generate a key
[06:19] <jpatrick> kakei: woohoo
[06:20] <Delvien> jpatrick its not in adept
[06:20] <kakei> jpatrick i typed wrong the channel hehe
[06:20] <jpatrick> Delvien: I think it's in universe
[06:20] <Delvien> jpatrick hmm didnt see it
[06:20] <ilba7r> installing now
[06:20] <jpatrick> apt-cache show kgpg
[06:21] <deFrysk> ilba7r, good luck :)
[06:21] <Delvien> jpatrick Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? ???
[06:21] <Delvien> yes or no?
[06:22] <jpatrick> Y
[06:22] <deFrysk> Delvien, wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:22] <deFrysk> Delvien, sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:23] <deFrysk> Delvien, to get rid of the verification question
[06:23] <Delvien> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[06:24] <Delvien> got it
[06:24] <Delvien> now just search for kde3.5?
[06:24] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get update
[06:25] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:25] <deFrysk> and if you do not have kde
[06:25] <T3hWiz0rd> mmm dist-upgrade
[06:25] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:26] <T3hWiz0rd> deFrysk: can you do both on ubuntu?
[06:26] <Delvien> What graphical upgrades does 3.5 pose?
[06:26] <deFrysk> T3hWiz0rd, sure
[06:27] <T3hWiz0rd> deFrysk: though i don't see a use for gnome, i never use it lol
[06:27] <deFrysk> and also xubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <deFrysk> all 3 if you wish
[06:27] <T3hWiz0rd> xfce?
[06:27] <deFrysk> yup
[06:27] <Delvien> i use gnome for wireless connectivity , because KDE has huge problems with wireless AP switching
[06:27] <deFrysk> gnome is pretty good actually
[06:28] <deFrysk> as good as kde
[06:28] <Delvien> deFrysk does 3.5 have any graphical upgrades?
[06:28] <deFrysk> its just a matter of preference
[06:28] <deFrysk> Delvien, not too many
[06:28] <deFrysk> its just 'improved' kde
[06:29] <Delvien> only reason i dont use gnome is because i cant use Konqueror as my main file browser and stuff, its difficult switching back to a much more user friendly De
[06:29] <T3hWiz0rd> deFrysk: its probably a stability upgrade before a graphical eh?
[06:29] <deFrysk> T3hWiz0rd, yup
[06:29] <ilba7r> lol only reason i use gnome is nautilus. I just love emblements and do not know how to work without them
[06:29] <Delvien> 3.5 have transparency for window borders built in yet?
[06:30] <Delvien> emlblements? what do you mean ?
[06:30] <T3hWiz0rd> my birthday is monday, booyah
[06:30] <Delvien> deFrysk aye me too but nauti is missing a Address bar (without having to hit alt L  or w/e )
[06:30] <deFrysk> Delvien, I am not too much into transparency
[06:30] <jahshua> ok everyone im about to boot into kubuntu for my first time
[06:30] <jahshua> wish me luck :)
[06:31] <Delvien> good luck
[06:31] <ilba7r> its a graphical way to mark your {files important, not so important, final } and so on
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> jahshua: may god protect you from the fork bombs
[06:31] <deFrysk> jahshua, see you back next week ;p
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> ilba7r: so kinda like OS X's "folder markers"?
[06:32] <Delvien> i found gnome to be more like Mac osx and kde more like windows
[06:32] <ilba7r> T2hWizord did not use os actually
[06:32] <Delvien> KDE has alot more develpoment user side too
[06:32] <ilba7r> now for my first test drive of the new kde
[06:32] <Riddell> jahshua: good luck
[06:32] <ilba7r> will log in again from kdesktop take care all
[06:33] <T3hWiz0rd> i wouldn't really compare gnome to aqua
[06:33] <Delvien> aqua?
[06:33] <T3hWiz0rd> aqua is simple and easy to use... but its not laid out like crap
[06:33] <T3hWiz0rd> gnome is laid out like crap lol
[06:33] <T3hWiz0rd> aqua is os x's gui
[06:34] <Delvien> o
[06:34] <Delvien> Im not a mac guy
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> word had it that aqua and quartz extreme may be headed to linux and windows
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> if so, fricking awesome
[06:34] <Delvien> no thanks :)
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> it would dominate gnome in a day
[06:35] <T3hWiz0rd> don't think it would be there to compete with kde though
[06:35] <T3hWiz0rd> im feeling like fatty food
[06:35] <T3hWiz0rd> its time for TAXO BELLZOR
[06:36] <ilba7r> i guess i used gnome for too long now
[06:36] <hyperactivecrond> i just apt-get 'ed kubuntu-desktop and no system notifications will play for kde
[06:36] <Delvien> i tried to use enlightenment .. and omg was that a stupid Desktop environment
[06:36] <ilba7r> i used to work on kde but its soo different now am not used to those large fonts lol
[06:36] <Delvien> XFCE wasnt bad, but too much like gnome
[06:37] <ilba7r> my main wm is enlightenment actually. I am just testing kde on an old pc
[06:37] <Delvien> i might have to make the switch back to gnome if KDE 4 doesnt turn out good enough with the fixes
[06:37] <hyperactivecrond> err nvm
[06:37] <hyperactivecrond> !kde3.5
[06:37] <Delvien> wireless in KDE switching APs are IMPOSSIBLE
[06:37] <ubotu> I guess kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:37] <Delvien> gnome , a couple clicks and its done
[06:37] <hyperactivecrond> Delvien, then use gnome.
[06:38] <Delvien> i been using KDE for a long time now , and i like it , despite its downfalls
[06:38] <jpatrick> Delvien: but I won't stop Linus bashing you
[06:38] <jpatrick> ;)
[06:38] <ilba7r> haha
[06:38] <Delvien> i am too defrysk
[06:38] <ilba7r> its just the colurs are soo lol my eyes hearts
[06:39] <Delvien> jpatrick what?
[06:39] <hyperactivecrond> hmm maybe kde should be set to automagically use alsa by default b/c it won't play other sounds if it doesn't
[06:39] <jpatrick> Delvien: haven't you heard the news?
[06:39] <Delvien> no
[06:40] <MrSunshine> how would you go about changing the brightness of the screen in kde?
[06:40] <MrSunshine> my monitor is very dark :>
[06:40] <hyperactivecrond> arrgh how does one install 3.5?
[06:40] <Delvien> jpatrick whats the news?
[06:40] <Delvien> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:40] <hyperactivecrond> :P
[06:40] <GreKom> help please
[06:40] <hyperactivecrond> what grekom?
[06:41] <GreKom> I messed my Kubuntu
[06:41] <Delvien> jpatrick brb gotta reboot , tell me when i get back
[06:41] <hyperactivecrond> grekom: what about it
[06:41] <GreKom> wont start, starts modules, and hangs at starting system log daemon
[06:42] <GreKom> 11-unix:read-only file system
[06:42] <hyperactivecrond> :\   what did you do?
[06:42] <GreKom> I tried to install an 160 Gb HDD
[06:43] <ffeeddee> hi!!
[06:43] <hyperactivecrond> greKom: check your fstab?
[06:43] <hyperactivecrond> hi ffeeddee
[06:43] <GreKom> fstab?
[06:43] <GreKom> please wait, till it starts the command line
[06:43] <ffeeddee> does someone have epson epl6200l printer??
[06:44] <ilba7r> hyperactive try firefox 1.5
[06:44] <ilba7r> i find it stable enough so far and all you need is just untar it in a dir
[06:44] <hyperactivecrond> :
[06:45] <hyperactivecrond> :\ why don't we have this as a deb yet?
[06:45] <ilba7r> but most of the time i prefer opera though lol
[06:45] <ilba7r> hyperactive it will cause a lot of conflicts there is an article on it in distrowatch by the manager of the backports project
[06:45] <hyperactivecrond> thx ilba7r you made me check my version # lol
[06:46] <hyperactivecrond> i'll just uninstall  the old firefox, no?
[06:46] <ilba7r> they work side by side
[06:46] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[06:46] <ilba7r> and frankly no need to uninstall it might cause some dependency problems and for you to uninustall more packages than wht you want
[06:46] <ilba7r> you have 1.07 right
[06:47] <hyperactivecrond> yes ilba7r
[06:47] <GreKom> hyperactivecrond, ok runs now
[06:47] <hyperactivecrond> cool GreKom
[06:47] <GreKom> how to check fstab?
[06:47] <Delvien> damn got rid of all my custom stuff for KDM
[06:47] <hyperactivecrond> less /etc/fstab
[06:47] <MrSunshine> bah
[06:47] <GreKom> hyperactivecrond, I meant command mode ;)
[06:47] <MrSunshine> now im starting to get angry
[06:47] <MrSunshine> kde just wont let you do what you want
[06:47] <ilba7r> all i did is just download from the official site. Untar, have symbolic link and they both work great
[06:47] <hyperactivecrond> grekom ?
[06:48] <MrSunshine> i NEED 75hz in 1152xwhatever ... and do i get to select that display mode?
[06:48] <MrSunshine> NOOO
[06:48] <jpatrick> Delvien: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1677
[06:48] <hyperactivecrond> ilba7r, where does one symlink?
[06:48] <MrSunshine> ive been sitter here with 60hz. . no wounder my eyes started to get strained :/
[06:48] <ilba7r> i did it in my home dir.
[06:48] <hyperactivecrond> MrSunshine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:48] <ilba7r> if you are not the only one using the pc than you need to have system wide symlink
[06:49] <hyperactivecrond> how does one make a ubuntu-based distro...?
[06:49] <ilba7r> so basically in the path most of the time at /usr/bin
[06:49] <GreKom> hyperactivecrond, does it fix it, or just shows anything?
[06:49] <hyperactivecrond> modify the packages i assume
[06:49] <hyperactivecrond> and grekom: shows
[06:50] <GreKom> hyperactivecrond, what do U need to know, or should I retype ewerything?
[06:50] <ilba7r> ok take care all will leave now
[06:50] <hyperactivecrond> GreKom, pastebin the errors if at all possible
[06:50] <hyperactivecrond> or /msg me
[06:50] <hyperactivecrond> so i can pastebin it..
[06:51] <hyperactivecrond> yay! firefox 1.5 is in dapper!
[06:52] <MrSunshine> still wont let me have it me thinks
[06:52] <GreKom> hyperactivecrond, well it says /dev/hda1/ ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser 01
[06:52] <GreKom> hyperactivecrond, well it says /dev/hda5 none swap SW 0 0
[06:52] <hyperactivecrond> grekom: The errors
[06:52] <jpatrick> hyperactivecrond: it's been there for a while
[06:52] <hyperactivecrond> not the fstab
[06:53] <GreKom> err how to exit fstab?
[06:53] <MrSunshine> seems kde wants to set its own screen settings
[06:53] <hyperactivecrond> ^x
[06:53] <GreKom> I am total newbee
[06:53] <hyperactivecrond> ^^ frekom
[06:53] <hyperactivecrond> grekom*
[06:53] <MrSunshine> and totaly disregards the ones in xorg.conf
[06:53] <hyperactivecrond> ctrl-x
[06:53] <hyperactivecrond> MrSushine: System Settings
[06:54] <GreKom> just gives me the keyboard reading
[06:54] <ilba7r> Grekom can you use the pastebin to display the content of your fstab and mtab files found at /etc/
[06:54] <MrSunshine> system settings let me set one moide .. 1152x8something in 55!!! hz
[06:56] <GreKom> hmmm, my problem is, I am chatting at another machine
[06:57] <ilba7r> grekom i just assume you have used the wrong mount options
[06:57] <ilba7r> thats why i need to see those files
[06:57] <ilba7r> do you have two hard disks
[06:57] <GreKom> yes
[06:58] <ilba7r> ok do you have two dev /dev/hda and /dev/hdb
[06:58] <ilba7r> are they sata drives?
[06:58] <GreKom> the 160 Gb is SATA
[06:58] <dvasquez> hello greetings
[06:58] <dvasquez> can anyone help me with my usb pendrive?
[06:58] <dvasquez> i cant mount it
[06:58] <ilba7r> the other is ide right
[06:58] <GreKom> ilba7r, yes
[06:58] <ilba7r> ok can you open the /dev directory
[06:58] <GreKom> i did it
[06:59] <ilba7r> and see if you have /dev/sda and /dev/hda
[06:59] <ilba7r> use ls /dev/hd*
[06:59] <ilba7r> use ls /dev/sd*
[06:59] <GreKom> /dev/sda does not exists
[06:59] <dvasquez> yes i have /dev/sda
[07:00] <GreKom> there are hda hda1 hda2 hda5 hdd hdf hdf1
[07:00] <dvasquez> but when i try to mount it in the terminal it says "no medium found"
[07:00] <MrSunshine> argh .. someone tell me how the heck i can make kde let me choose whatever hz i want for my monitor :/
[07:00] <GreKom> dvasquez, I mean, it does not exist on my machine ;)
[07:00] <ilba7r> hda1 hda2 and so on are the partitions
[07:00] <MrSunshine> its like 60hz under what it can handle on ALL the modes
[07:00] <dvasquez> ah ok :-)
[07:00] <ilba7r> hdf is for floopy
[07:00] <ilba7r> ok try ls /dev/hdb*
[07:01] <MrSunshine> 55 and 60hz is the choices i have
[07:01] <MrSunshine> both hur my eyes badly
[07:01] <T3hWiz0rd> hi
[07:01] <GreKom> ilba7r, found nothing
[07:01] <dvasquez> theres hdb1
[07:01] <ilba7r> grekom do not know why but your harddisk is not defined
[07:01] <ilba7r> did you check the bios to see if your pc see it
[07:01] <wachtep> join #kontect
[07:02] <GreKom> ilba7r, the problem is, the 160 Gb HDD was formerly NTFS
[07:02] <dvasquez> this is my fstab command /dev/sda /media/usb auto defaults,rw,users
[07:02] <GreKom> ilba7r, yhe SATA card recognises it
[07:02] <ilba7r> dvasquez can you state yoru prob again
[07:02] <ilba7r> grekom so the bios see both harddisks
[07:02] <GreKom> ilba7r, yes
[07:03] <dvasquez> when i try to mount it says it cant determine the filesystem and none has been specified
[07:03] <luors> DHGE: thanks for your help!  i find that "fc-list" can also list fonts
[07:03] <dvasquez> my fstab line is "/dev/sda /media/usb auto defaults,rw,users"
[07:03] <ilba7r> dvasquez is your sata drive composed of just one partition
[07:03] <dvasquez> no i have a windows partition too
[07:03] <GreKom> ilba7r, I think I did something wrong, als I assigned it in KDE
[07:03] <dvasquez> the pendrive works in windows
[07:03] <GreKom> ilba7r, probably mount point... I set it to /
[07:04] <ilba7r> grekom that is why i need the fstab
[07:04] <ilba7r> dbasquez do you have drive /sda1
[07:04] <GreKom> I can retype it if U want
[07:04] <ilba7r> dbasquez do you have device /dev/sda1
[07:04] <GreKom> just give me the command line to read it
[07:04] <ilba7r> grekom use the pastebin for that
[07:05] <dvasquez> ilba7r no theres just sda
[07:05] <ilba7r> cat /etc/fstab
[07:05] <GreKom> ilba7r, i typed pastebin, does not exist
[07:05] <ilba7r> grekom look at the top of the room
[07:05] <ilba7r> there is a link to pastebin
[07:06] <os2mac> running Dapper... and keep getting this in my term window
[07:06] <ilba7r> dvasquez it is windows partition right
[07:06] <GreKom> ilba7r, at the time I can only run command line
[07:06] <dvasquez> yes i have a windows partition hda1 ntfs
[07:07] <dvasquez> the line in fstab for sda is "/dev/sda /media/usb auto defaults,rw,users "
[07:07] <ilba7r> dvasquez i mean the sda is it a window or linux partition what type of partition it is
[07:07] <dvasquez> should work right?
[07:07] <GreKom> ilba7r, I am chatting with U on second machine
[07:07] <dvasquez> ah it is a fat32 partition
[07:07] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/468051
[07:07] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/468051
[07:07] <dvasquez> doesnt work with vfat though
[07:07] <ilba7r> dvasquez i think you need to specify it as window partiton
[07:08] <ilba7r> dvasquez yes vfat is for fat32 which you have
[07:08] <GreKom> ilba7r, am I screwed up?
[07:08] <ilba7r> grekom no
[07:09] <ilba7r> do not worry
[07:09] <dvasquez> ok thanx i'll experiment with that
[07:09] <GreKom> so what can I do?
[07:09] <ilba7r> just give me a min
[07:09] <ilba7r> dvasquez look at the unofficial guide in the documentation
[07:09] <ilba7r> i am afraid i am not using my pc that is why i can not give you the link now
[07:09] <ilba7r> search for it at ubuntu site
[07:10] <dvasquez> ok thanx anyway ilba7r
[07:13] <ilba7r> grekom i am afraid i have to reboot will be back
[07:13] <T3hWiz0rd> :-D
[07:22] <GreKom> ilba7r, welcome back
[07:23] <ilba7r> how are you doing now grekom
[07:23] <GreKom> still same
[07:23] <ilba7r> first i really do not know why you do not have the /dev/sda
[07:23] <ilba7r> this is really strange and i can not help you there
[07:24] <ilba7r> for the mounting problem it is simple you might have mounted the two harddisks to the same place
[07:24] <GreKom> ilba7r, is there a backup of fstab?
[07:24] <ilba7r> you can correct that in the fstab
[07:24] <ilba7r> then type sudo mount -a
[07:24] <ilba7r> grekom did you change fstab
[07:24] <GreKom> ilba7r, no, I mena, the KDE changed it
[07:24] <ilba7r> type ls /etc/fstab*
[07:25] <GreKom> it found only one :(
[07:25] <ilba7r> than there is no backup for it
[07:25] <GreKom> can I somehow edit fsatb in command?
[07:25] <ilba7r> on the pc you are on now type go to this webpage http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:26] <ilba7r> than type in the contents of your fstab file
[07:26] <GreKom> ilba7r, and then?
[07:27] <ilba7r> i will try to find your problem in the fstab file
[07:28] <GreKom> ilba7r, I think it uses /dev/hdf1 for my second drive
[07:28] <ilba7r> hdf is normally the floppy
[07:30] <slow-motion> re
[07:31] <ilba7r> ok it might be your harddisk than
[07:32] <ilba7r> ok got to go now hope you find your solu
[07:33] <tobi> Does anyone know how to get the compiletime option qt is compiled with?
[07:40] <seanj> hi peoples
[07:49] <ilba7r> i remember that there was a way to have a better organized menu than the chaiotic default one
[07:49] <ilba7r> anyone remember if there is a package or do i just have to do it manually
[07:51] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[07:51] <jpgeerets> good evening
[07:51] <jpgeerets> someone knnow something how to convert a dvd9 to dvd5?
[07:59] <yehoshua> hehe
[08:01] <hugelmopf> jpgeerets: e.g. k9copy
[08:02] <hugelmopf> which should be available at this repository: deb http://archive.czessi.net breezy testing
[08:13] <Insomniac-> anyone know why xorg is giving me a blank screen after starting? using onboard nvidia device, doesn't seem to matter whether i use the nv or nvidia driver, xorg logfile looks fine
[08:19] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: How are you starting xorg?
[08:19] <Insomniac-> kdm
[08:19] <Insomniac-> at boot
[08:20] <Insomniac-> logfiles here http://bodylotion.student.utwente.nl/~insomniac/a64/
[08:20] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: Are your monitors configured with a sync range that they cannot handle? (ie totally black screen)?
[08:20] <Insomniac-> maybe, it's a tft monitor though
[08:21] <Insomniac-> no sync ranges specified in the conf
[08:21] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: My monitors are both configured with: Section "Monitor"  Identifier "Right Monitor"  Option "DPMS" EndSection
[08:22] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: If the monitor supports DPMS that should be sufficient.
[08:22] <Insomniac-> the onboard nvidia has 2 outputs but i'm only using 1
[08:22] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: Still: Do you get a completely black screen?
[08:22] <Insomniac-> yes
[08:22] <Insomniac-> can't even switch back to console
[08:22] <Insomniac-> good thing i installed openssh
[08:23] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: I see. Have you tried specifying which screen it should use?
[08:23] <Insomniac-> no, i don't see which other screen it could possibly use
[08:23] <BlueEagle> insomniac-: I can /msg you my config if you would like that.
[08:23] <Insomniac-> sure
[08:26] <jahshua> well
[08:26] <jahshua> i did it :)
[08:32] <_ec> 15.4 wxga 1280*800 horizontal and vertical frequencies?
[08:38] <hyperactivecrond> the older verisons worked better...
[08:42] <dragonkh> is there something up with the ubuntu remote repository ? I keep getting time outs on apt
[08:42] <dragonkh> I mean it starts then drops out
[09:04] <cartesian1984> can someone in here help me? i was banned from the ubuntu channel for no apparent reason
[09:08] <Blissex> cartesian1984: usually, just wait out your ban period...
[09:09] <Blissex> cartesian1984: and consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...
[09:09] <cartesian1984> i wasn't asking any questions, i was trying to help a guy with vmware
[09:09] <kangpeh> i can't install linspire clear - with kde 3.5 on kubuntu
[09:09] <kangpeh> :(
[09:10] <Chairman_Wow> I want to add a protocol handler for lastfm to konqueror. I've got a lastfm.protocol file. Where do I store it?
[09:13] <jahshua> i just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?
[09:14] <Blissex> cartesian1984: uhmmmm, VMware is proprietary AND not totally Ubuntu related, still a ban is excessive.
[09:15] <Blissex> Chairman_Wow: try 'locate .protocol' to see where all '.protocol' files are...
[09:15] <[miles] > Blissex: evening... where'nt you a SuSE'er ?
[09:15] <cartesian1984> Blissex: I advised him to ask in the vmware channel, but he said they were all afk
[09:16] <Knowerrors> anybody using firefox 1.5?
[09:17] <Blissex> Knowerrors: according to claims by Mozilla.org, several million people use Firefox 1.5 already, so yes.
[09:18] <Knowerrors> Hehe, I meant somebody in this chat
[09:18] <Knowerrors> on Kubuntu
[09:18] <Knowerrors> I think you knew I meant that though
[09:19] <ajeet> Hello, I've just finished installing kubuntu after doing an ubuntu-server, I've just finished upgrading to KDE 3.5... But I'm wondering why after re-starting I didn't the KDE launch welcome, where it let's you setup internationalization and graphical stuff?
[09:20] <Chairman_Wow> Blissex: will do thanks
[09:21] <Blissex> ajeet: because you already run a previous version of KDE for that user... There is some kind of flat file you can remove or just run the ''first time'' app again. It has a fairly obvious name, but ask in #KDE, or just use the settings
[09:23] <Tm_T> kpersonalizer
[09:24] <Tm_T> bah, too late
[09:24] <Knowerrors> "/usr/bin/kpersonalizer"
[09:24] <Tm_T> just kpersonalizer
[09:24] <Tm_T> who cares about its path ;)
[09:24] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:25] <Knowerrors> hehe, they left anyway, too bad
[09:26] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with this http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2259.0 ? please
[09:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> Hey! can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??
[09:39] <teknoprep> use windows
[09:39] <Voodoo_Vibe> No,Thanx
[09:39] <jahshua> i just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?
[09:39] <ajeet> Hello, from a fresh install of Kubuntu, just installed Firefox, but it's all grey and win95-esque, I know FF is a GTK app, but I've seen in other KDE distros looking normal, how do I do that on Kubuntu?
[09:39] <teknoprep> lol
[09:40] <teknoprep> wow 2 ppl with the same problem w0ot
[09:40] <jahshua> no its my desktop wallpaper
[09:40] <Voodoo_Vibe> I dont like to chase viruses and spyware all day
[09:40] <jahshua> :p
[09:40] <jahshua> its resized
[09:40] <ajeet> No, not really, my problem is totally different...
[09:40] <jahshua> with a black border at the top and the right
[09:40] <teknoprep> Voodoo_Vibe you could learn to setup windows correctly
[09:41] <Voodoo_Vibe> teknoprep: i dont have windows
[09:41] <teknoprep> Voodoo_Vibe it helps in the world when applying for getting ajob
[09:42] <Voodoo_Vibe> teknojob: why r u in this channel if u love windows so much?
[09:42] <Knowerrors> ajeet: to your question about kde from the post before you left, type kpersonalizer at the konsole
[09:43] <jahshua> anyone>
[09:43] <jahshua> ?
[09:43] <jahshua> i just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?
[09:43] <Knowerrors> ajeet: to get your FF to look like the rest of kde, type kcontrol, go to appearance, go to gtk looknfeel, and set to look and have fonts same as kde
[09:44] <Voodoo_Vibe> Can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??
[09:44] <ajeet> Knowerrors: Thanks, but I've just worked it out from the forums!
[09:45] <Knowerrors> good job :)
[09:45] <Insomniac-> http://bodylotion.student.utwente.nl/~insomniac/a64/problem.html < i can't seem to get my integrated nvidia video working, can anyone help?
[09:47] <ajeet> Also probably a minor problem, but when I maximise any anything in Kubuntu, I notice it doesn't have the blue border around the program thing, it sort of hides behind the panel, why is this?
[09:51] <ajeet> ?
[09:52] <Voodoo_Vibe> Hey! can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??
[09:53] <Knowerrors> ajeet: "program thing" what do ya mean?
[09:53] <ajeet> the window border of any program
[09:57] <waspius> +reg
[09:58] <Knowerrors> ajeet: so you don't have a window border when maximized?
[09:59] <bam_> whats a good backup/compression tool for my home dir?
[10:00] <bam_> besides making a script
[10:00] <bam_> and gzip/tarballing it
[10:02] <Knowerrors> Hey all, can some help with this, I installed Firefox 1.5 using the Arnieboy installer script, but when I run FF, it crashes, heres what I get at terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5859 ?
[10:03] <crimsun> please don't use arnieboy's script
[10:03] <sven> nabend
[10:03] <crimsun> there's an easybreezy
[10:04] <Snake__> Is it possible to get my kubuntu laptop to reconize my windows server??
[10:05] <sven> since upgrading to kde 3.5 i've an enoying problem watching videos
[10:05] <Knowerrors> crimsun: "easybreezy" whats that?  and what do I do now that Ive already used his script?
[10:06] <crimsun> Knowerrors: why didn't you just use Adept to install firefox?
[10:07] <Knowerrors> 1.5 isn't in the repos, as far as I know
[10:07] <sven> instead of playing the video directly, it is copied completly to tmp before playing
[10:07] <Knowerrors> I was using 1.07, and wanted to upgrade for the better speed
[10:07] <Kovecses> anyone here using kde 3.5?
[10:07] <crimsun> Knowerrors: it's in Dapper, dunno if it has been backported to Breezy yet
[10:08] <sven> Kovecses: yes
[10:08] <Kovecses> how does it run?
[10:08] <Knowerrors> crimsun: hmm, so if Im using breezy, is it ok to open up the Dapper repos just to get Firefox, then close em?
[10:08] <crimsun> Knowerrors: no
[10:09] <sven> Kovecses: great, with one enoying thimg ^^
[10:09] <Knowerrors> well, then the only way to get FF 1.5 for Breezy is manual way
[10:09] <Snake__> help? please? Lol
[10:09] <Kovecses> sven: whats that?
[10:10] <sven> when you watch a video, it is copied completly to tmp before playing
[10:10] <crimsun> Knowerrors: you can beg the backports people to backport it
[10:11] <Knowerrors> crimsun: Ive heard it won't be backported, because too many programs in Gnome are interlocked with FF
[10:11] <Snake__> Speaking of 1.5...how come my firefox 1.0.7 hasn't nagged me to upgrade yet??
[10:12] <Kovecses> cuz 1.5 sucks
[10:12] <Kovecses> j/k
[10:13] <crimsun> Snake__: because we don't handle upgrades that way
[10:13] <Snake__> I was talking about my windows version :)
[10:14] <Snake__> ARGH!! I think I need to reburn this kubuntu disk....bootstrap.log can't be found
[10:14] <Voodoo_Vibe> can someone help me get my soundblaster audigy 4 working??
[10:16] <xIllu> when i tryt to run kwrite it says kwrite: cannot connect to x server.. how do i fix that?
[10:16] <xIllu> it worked yesterday
[10:17] <sven> noone knows something about that copy problem?
[10:20] <hunika> Hello who can help me? I can not play mp3 but I have w32codecs and xine engine too
[10:20] <hunika> solution?????????
[10:20] <hunika> pls help
[10:20] <hunika> me
[10:20] <Voodoo_Vibe> can someone help me get my soundblaster audigy 4 working??
[10:20] <wasp_ems> hi...does anyone know how i can access my mp3 player through the usb??i put it in and an error comes up saying
[10:20] <wasp_ems> An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:
[10:20] <wasp_ems> The file or folder media:/sda1 does not exist.
[10:20] <Knowerrors> Anyone have a link for a FF 1.5 deb for breezy?
[10:20] <Voodoo_Vibe> My lsmod   http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/468249
[10:21] <hunika> LjL: can you help me?
[10:21] <wasp_ems> anyone?
[10:21] <wasp_ems> nalioth: can u hep?
[10:23] <nalioth> wasp_ems: type "man  mount"
[10:23] <hunika> help me
[10:23] <hunika> I can not play mp3
[10:23] <hunika> with kaffeine or amarok
[10:23] <hunika> I have installed w32 codecs
[10:23] <hunika> and xine engine too
[10:24] <hunika> but I can not play
[10:24] <RealMurphy> hunika: what for?
[10:24] <Voodoo_Vibe> get xmms
[10:24] <hunika> I have xmms
[10:24] <hunika> but I like amarok
[10:24] <nalioth> hunika: w32codecs are useless for mp3
[10:24] <nalioth> !tell hunika about mp3
[10:24] <hunika> anyway
[10:24] <RealMurphy> is the sound muted or the input set to pcm (IIRC?)
[10:24] <sven> Knowerrors: Just Download it from their site and unpack it to /opt
[10:24] <hunika> I have enabled universe multiuniverse
[10:24] <nalioth> hunika: read your info from ubotu
[10:24] <hunika> but I can not play mp3
[10:24] <hunika> ok
[10:24] <hunika> ok
[10:25] <Voodoo_Vibe> can someone help me get my soundblaster audigy 4 working??
[10:25] <Knowerrors> sven: then you have to manually install all the multimedia stuff, like mplayer plug, java, flash, right?
[10:25] <RealMurphy> Voodoo_Vibe: What's the problem?
[10:25] <RealMurphy> Does the kernel detect it corretly?
[10:26] <hunika> nalioth: I have read and I have made it
[10:26] <hunika> but still does not works
[10:26] <hunika> and I can not get an error message
[10:26] <Voodoo_Vibe> RealMurphy: im new to linux and i cant get any sound. i downloaded alsa-base and alsa-utils
[10:26] <RealMurphy> hunika: open kmix check that the volume is not muted, the input chould be set to pcm and all sliders should be in the middle, check also the cabeling
[10:27] <hunika> no the volume is not muted the player simply does not plays
[10:27] <RealMurphy> Voodoo_Vibe: First step is to make sure the kernel detects it. open a root window and do lspci -v and see if it's listed there
[10:27] <RealMurphy> hunika: if you try to play it does not do anything or is the slider for the track moving?
[10:28] <hunika> it does not doo anything
[10:28] <Voodoo_Vibe> RealMurphy: found this.  Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[10:28] <sven> Knowerrors: http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20051025_using_firefox_15_with_ubuntu_510_quick_howto.phtml
[10:28] <RealMurphy> Voodoo_Vibe: looks partly good ;)
[10:29] <Voodoo_Vibe> RealMurphy: yeah
[10:29] <nalioth> !firefox15
[10:29] <ubotu> I heard firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[10:29] <bam_> firefox=slow, try opera
[10:30] <sven> Knowerrors: all the Plugins are in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[10:30] <hunika> RealMurphy: Any opinion, recomendation
[10:30] <RealMurphy> Voodoo_Vibe: try this, but I dunno if that's going to help you: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=154918
[10:31] <sven> Knowerrors: Complete Howto at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html
[10:31] <RealMurphy> hunika: nothig directly, I think a complete strace would be overkill
[10:32] <Knowerrors> sven: thx, will read
[10:32] <slow-motion> re
[10:32] <RealMurphy> hunika: does smms work?
[10:32] <hunika> RealMurphy: what is that? I am new in Linux
[10:32] <hunika> RealMurphy: I can play mp3 with xmms
[10:32] <RealMurphy> hunika: never mind, strace is a low level thing which tells you which files are accessed and mcuh more
[10:32] <RealMurphy> hunika: ok, that's a good starting point
[10:32] <RealMurphy> which version of amarok?
[10:33] <Voodoo_Vibe> RealMurphy: Thanx! so its the emu10k1 file i should have to get it working?
[10:33] <hunika> Another thing is
[10:33] <hunika> that I can see the movie at kaffeine but I can not hear any sound
[10:33] <hunika> but xmms wokr
[10:33] <RealMurphy> Voodoo_Vibe: I guess so, if that's the name of the kernel module the make sure its loaded proberly via lsmod
[10:33] <RealMurphy> hunika: weird....
[10:33] <crimsun> don't load emu10k1.
[10:34] <crimsun> that's the OSS/Free driver, which will cause you headaches if you're trying to use ALSA.
[10:34] <sven> hunika: you need at least gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support
[10:34] <RealMurphy> crimsun: thanks for helping me out, I never hat an audigy and was just guessing
[10:34] <Voodoo_Vibe> RealMurphy: ok didnt get much of that beacause im new. but i will keep looking and try to get it and install. Thanx
[10:35] <hunika> sven: I had kubuntu and I need xine engine to play anithing, but I have reinstalled my system and now does not works
[10:35] <crimsun> RealMurphy: which model? lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:36] <hunika> RealMurphy: Any ideas?
[10:36] <RealMurphy> I also have a quesion: What is the recommended path to persue if I want to use kpilot, but the underlying library from pilot-link barfs half-way through a hotsync.. notify the debian maintainer and hope kpilot gets repackaged with an updated lib?
[10:36] <RealMurphy> crimsun: Voodoo_Vibe has an Audigy 4
[10:36] <RealMurphy> hunika: not really, have you checked sven's suggestion?
[10:37] <crimsun> Voodoo_Vibe: are you in Kubuntu currently?
[10:37] <hunika> RealMurphy: yes
[10:38] <RealMurphy> hunika: right now I'm already runniong out of options.. it's weird that amarok does not emit any warning
[10:38] <hunika> i will check again now
[10:39] <hunika> it does not
[10:39] <hunika> Maybe I should try to reinstall amarok and kaffeine
[10:39] <hunika> ?
[10:39] <hunika> ???????????????
[10:39] <hunika> ?????????/
[10:40] <sven> hunika: no that won't help
[10:40] <hunika> sven: IDEA??????????????
[10:41] <trappist> where is media:/hdc supposed to be? it complains that it doesn't exist when I insert a dvd into hdc.  an strace shows that it's searching my $PATH for a file called 'media:/hdc'.  is this just broken?
[10:41] <sven> hunika: get gstreamer0.8-plugins like faac, faad, lame and also xvid, ffmpeg
[10:41] <Voodoo> vrimsun: sorry got disconnected
[10:41] <Voodoo> crimsun: what shall i use instead?
[10:41] <hunika> sven: Help me how can I do that? i am new in linux
[10:41] <crimsun> Voodoo_Vibe: are you in Kubuntu currently?
[10:42] <Voodoo_Vibe> crimsun: yes
[10:42] <Voodoo_Vibe> crimsun: thats all i got
[10:42] <crimsun> Voodoo_Vibe: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:42] <sven> hunika: Under System you have Adept With that you can install other software
[10:43] <hunika> sven: I know
[10:43] <hunika> sven: there how should I search for it
[10:43] <hunika> ?
[10:43] <sven> hunika: gstreamer
[10:43] <Voodoo_Vibe> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/468302
[10:44] <crimsun> Voodoo_Vibe: ok, sec, kinda busy atm
[10:44] <vicks> !tell vicks about multiverse
[10:44] <Voodoo_Vibe> crimsun: ok, take youre time
[10:44] <Eruantalon> How do I make Kubuntu/arts use my other soundcard?
[10:45] <Eruantalon> There is this: "Override device location" But it says nothing of with what!?
[10:46] <Eruantalon> should be something like /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp1 because it tells me that there is no such thing.
[10:46] <Eruantalon> should it*
[10:49] <ninnghizidha> hey!
[10:49] <xIllu> ohh a wiener :P
[10:50] <ninnghizidha> recht haste :-)
[10:50] <xIllu> :)
[10:51] <xIllu> :)
[10:53] <ninnghizidha> ... generell mit KDE eigentlich ... aber bin sehr zufrieden bis jetzt.
[10:53] <xIllu> ich versuch seit 2 tagen die wlan karte zum laufen zu bringen :)
[10:54] <ninnghizidha> ... sollten die seit breezy nicht sehr gut untersttzt werden?
[10:55] <xIllu> nicht bei mir :P
[10:55] <ninnghizidha> wird noch, bin ich mir sicher :-)
[10:55] <xIllu> heh.. ich nicht so wirklich :)..
[10:56] <jahshua> i just installed kubuntu and im suffering from serious lag
[10:56] <jahshua> any ideas? ?
[10:56] <jahshua> this is my first install =] 
[10:56] <xIllu> what kind of lag?
[10:56] <xIllu> system too slow?
[10:56] <jahshua> 20 seconds
[10:56] <jahshua> system seems ok
[10:56] <jahshua> irc lag
[10:56] <shmoolik> hello
[10:57] <xIllu> oh
[10:57] <jahshua> i have jumped servers etc
[10:57] <jahshua> efnet
[10:57] <jahshua> so its not that
[10:57] <xIllu> ur isp maybe?
[10:57] <jahshua> nah
[10:57] <jahshua> its never like that on xp
[10:57] <jahshua> which is what i used to use
[10:57] <jahshua> about 2 hours ago =] 
[10:57] <jahshua> heh
[10:58] <M_Cheevy> morning ppls
[10:58] <Voodoo_Vibe> M_Cheevy: Morning!
[11:00] <M_Cheevy> welp, just did the upgrade to kde3.5  should I be concerned that "Login Screen Setup" application doesn't work anymore (maybe because it's gdmsetup and I'm now using kdm?)
[11:00] <M_Cheevy> other than that one hiccup, all seems to have gone well...
[11:01] <hunika> can I have winamp for linux a new version
[11:01] <hunika> not like xmms
[11:01] <hunika> it is a bit ild
[11:01] <hunika> old
[11:01] <hunika> something new like winamp
[11:02] <M_Cheevy> hunika: there is a winamp for linux?
[11:02] <hunika> it is??????????????
[11:02] <hunika> where/
[11:02] <hunika> ???????????
[11:02] <hunika> it is downloadable
[11:02] <hunika> ?
[11:02] <M_Cheevy> hunika: sorry, misunderstood...
[11:03] <M_Cheevy> english a second language for ya?   "it is" makes a statement "is it" makes a question
[11:03] <M_Cheevy> sorry, still working on my first cuppa coffee
[11:05] <ninnghizidha> oh .. coffee ... i want a cup of it too.
[11:05] <M_Cheevy> ninnghizidha: good Kenya AA... come to auckland and I'll pour ya a cup ;)
[11:06] <M_Cheevy> Kenya AA and the Graceland concert on DVD... god Narobi would be nice for an hour or two today.....
[11:06] <M_Cheevy> (so I just got dvd playback working :) )
[11:07] <nalioth> hunika: xmms = winamp
[11:07] <M_Cheevy> only problem is now that everything is stable I only have 120mb left on my 3gb cap for the month
[11:09] <ninnghizidha> too late for coffee, guys.
[11:09] <M_Cheevy> ninnghizidha: hahaha ;) just don't try to make a custom kernel after drinking that ;)
[11:10] <ninnghizidha> ... but i guess i'd have lots of fun while compiling.
[11:10] <M_Cheevy> so, is there an equivlant program to gdmsetup for kdm?
[11:11] <M_Cheevy> ninnghizidha: yeah, but some of the kernel config choices might be a bit garbled ;)
[11:11] <bam_> anyone knwo if korganizer can sync with a remote ical file
[11:11] <ninnghizidha> ... like they are now ....
[11:11] <M_Cheevy> and wine would help?
[11:12] <ninnghizidha> ... no ...
[11:12] <ninnghizidha> ... quite delicious wine ....
[11:13] <Voodoo_Vibe> is there any program like daemon-tools on Windows for Linux??
[11:13] <M_Cheevy> enjoy ninnghizidha, seeing as how I woke up not too long ago I'll refrain
[11:13] <mmport81> what does daemon-tools do?
[11:13] <ninnghizidha> what does the daemone-tool do?
[11:13] <Voodoo_Vibe> mount an image file
[11:14] <M_Cheevy> bbiab
[11:14] <ninnghizidha> i guess this is possible with internal tools, mmport81
[11:14] <ninnghizidha> ... look for loopback-devices, mmport81
[11:14] <mmport81> ninnghizidha: yeh maybe, no idea - never tried b4
[11:15] <shmoolik> hello
[11:15] <shmoolik> does any one here used koffice ?
[11:15] <ninnghizidha> well ... i know this is possible .. but i dont know how .. tjust search the forums for loopback, i'km sure you will find a way.
[11:16] <ninnghizidha> are there any kde-icons-sets with a low eyecancer-risk out there too?
[11:16] <mmport81> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/isotest -o loop
[11:16] <mmport81> possibly?
[11:16] <mmport81> oops no
[11:16] <ninnghizidha> sounds good ... just try it :-)
[11:17] <mmport81> that won't work...
[11:17] <shmoolik> ninnghizidha: u mena likr 'highcontast' ?
[11:17] <ninnghizidha> no .. i mean without colors.
[11:17] <mmport81> well u could try something like that...
[11:17] <shmoolik> yeah then u mean 'highconrast'
[11:18] <ninnghizidha> hehe .. learning by trying.
[11:18] <shmoolik> wait i will give the package name ( its nice black and white icon set :] )
[11:19] <ninnghizidha> hehe ... no .. not really, shmoolik  ... something a bit for style at the cost of color.
[11:19] <ninnghizidha> i'm curious :-)
[11:19] <shmoolik> Monochrome ninnghizidha  thats the IconSetPakage
[11:19] <ninnghizidha> i'll try it .. give me a minute to try it out.
[11:20] <shmoolik> :]  o love this icon set :]  look real stylesh
[11:20] <shmoolik> styleish *
[11:21] <ninnghizidha> oh .. i cant find it .. where shall i seek it?
[11:22] <shmoolik> wait  i will give ya the deb pakage name
[11:22] <shmoolik> try kdeaetwork-theme-icon
[11:23] <shmoolik> i think its in there
[11:24] <ninnghizidha> got it ... and found some themes too with it ... hooray!
[11:24] <shmoolik> :[[
[11:24] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot so far ... i'll post reactions as soon as possible
[11:24] <shmoolik> :] ] *
[11:25] <voicu> Aptitude doesn't let me install a package (glibc-2.3.2). What could be the problem? No errors, just that when I press '+' nothing happens
[11:27] <_nano_> I'm getting a "composite failure" popup alert in kde whenever I logon, is there a way to remove that? I remember enabling transparency in the window behaviour settings, but i've disabled that now. and still the popup is not refusing to go. what seems to be the problem?
[11:28] <ninnghizidha> i got the same today ... but it vanished after disabling transparency.
[11:29] <_nano_> ninnghizidha: you disabled from the Kcontrol right?
[11:31] <ninnghizidha> thats right.
[11:31] <_nano_> Also I'm getting a lot of "An error occured while loading ....Unknown host" errors while using Konqueror for web browsing...any tweaks I could use to avoid that?
[11:31] <ninnghizidha> at window-options ... something like that.
[11:32] <_nano_> !konqueror
[11:32] <ubotu> [konqueror]  the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[11:36] <ninnghizidha> i guess, i'll stay with kde ... its is far more costumizable... i really like that
[11:37] <Snake__> Hey, if I Download kubuntu off the site, will it have KDE 3.5??
[11:38] <ninnghizidha> .. but i cant find iconSetpackage ...
[11:39] <voicu> right after i installed kde games, kynaptic or aptitude won't install anything... it says that the package 'locales' doesn't exist and when i want to install it (locales) nothing happens. what is going on?
[11:40] <voicu> i tried to download it and it doesn't want to replace it because it already exists
[11:41] <_nano_> voicu: try using apt-get, you can see the messages in that way and thus the problems
[11:42] <voicu> that's what i used... i got a message that said that those packages already exist
[11:43] <voicu> i should mention that when i installed kde games, kynaptic uninstalled some packages
[11:43] <voicu> i uninstalled kde games but i can't put back those that kynaptic deleted
[11:45] <_nano_> you can use force install if you have the packgages downloaded
[11:45] <_nano_> !dpkg
[11:45] <voicu> do you know which flag should i use?
[11:47] <_nano_> sudo apt-get --force-yes install  <packagename>
[11:47] <voicu> ok, thanks
[11:47] <_nano_> sudo apt-get -f install
[11:47] <_nano_> ^^ shorter form
[11:48] <ninnghizidha> Do you guys need firefox when there is konqueror too?
[11:49] <_nano_> ninnghizidha: konqueror still seems to have problems with plugings
[11:49] <_nano_> *plugins