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JohnnyMastslomo_ its uploaded12:08
JohnnyMastlets wait until it shows up12:08
HieronymusIs there a good dput guide somewhere?12:09
JohnnyMastman dput12:09
Seveason the wiki12:09
Seveassomewhere in the MOTU section :)12:10
JohnnyMastunder REVU12:10
JohnnyMastslomo_ its there now12:11
raphinkhmm12:16
raphinkwould be good if REVU passed comments as GET instead of POST12:16
JohnnyMastyes12:17
raphinkso it doesn't send it again when you refersh the page12:17
JohnnyMastF5 produest a new post12:17
raphinkhehe12:17
raphinkyes12:17
JohnnyMastif ur monitoring ur posts12:17
raphinkexactly12:17
raphinkso it needs to be GET12:17
JohnnyMastwe both had the same :)12:17
raphinkbut sistpoty is not around12:18
raphinkJohnnyMast: all the time....12:18
raphinkI always post twice because of this12:18
JohnnyMastraphink speaking of revu12:18
raphinkI post a comment and watch the evolution of the package12:18
JohnnyMastthere is one othe bug12:18
raphinkJohnnyMast: hehe12:18
raphinkwhat?12:18
JohnnyMasta typo12:18
raphinkwhere?12:18
JohnnyMastfor example12:18
JohnnyMastPackage was uploaded from: anthony.mercatante@laposte.net12:19
JohnnyMastits uploaded BY12:19
raphinkoh in REVU you mean12:19
raphinkyes12:19
raphinkwe ought to collect all this for sistpoty12:19
JohnnyMastwell revu to mailing12:19
raphinkI filed bugs aswell12:19
raphinkabout the fact that packagers can advocate their uploads12:19
raphinkand that index.* files are interpreted by apache which is not nice and could be avoided12:20
JohnnyMasti have read the revu2 TODO12:20
JohnnyMastand thats in there already12:20
raphinkgood :)12:21
raphinkwell the GET is really a must12:21
JohnnyMastyeah man :)12:22
raphink:)12:22
raphinkI love open-source because often you don't have issues, you have solutions :)12:22
raphinkwith proprietary software, you just have bugs12:23
raphinkwith open-source, you have fixes :)12:23
JohnnyMastyes you got that right12:23
raphinkand you can discuss with with guys about why it doesn't work12:23
JohnnyMastnot to mention mad ppl who use the software12:23
raphinkand how to fix it12:23
raphinkyes12:23
raphinkwell there are mad people in open-source aswell12:23
raphinkbut you can just tell them that if they're not happy12:24
slomo_humans are mad by definition ;)12:24
raphinkthey're12:24
raphink1) free to not use it12:24
raphink2) happily invited to fix12:24
JohnnyMastwell they are just A) twsted or B) blackhat12:24
JohnnyMasti had a lot of B)12:24
JohnnyMastlot of exposers on my prev devel12:24
raphinkhehe12:24
raphinkyes12:25
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JohnnyMastthose are not our kind of ppl12:25
JohnnyMastthey pic a bug and try every thing to make fun of the author12:25
JohnnyMastand dont contact him12:25
raphinkpatch to get all levels in Prince of Persia on Macintosh12:25
JohnnyMastwell yes they do but only when they made fun of him12:25
raphinkmhm12:27
raphinkwell I'd reckon that blackhats can be very good hackers12:27
raphinkI remember having had to hack in assembly 68k12:28
raphinka compiled program12:28
raphinkthat's harder than hacking bash, perl or python12:28
raphink;)12:28
raphinkso when blackhats turn good eventually12:28
raphinkit's a great opportunity for us ;)12:28
JohnnyMastraphink you dont have to be blackhat for that12:29
JohnnyMasta 2600 hacker is white like kevin12:29
JohnnyMastwell12:30
JohnnyMastno not kevin he was black12:30
raphinklol12:30
JohnnyMastbut12:30
JohnnyMasthacking a cellphone is easy enough for every one12:30
raphinkindeed12:30
raphinkor most small points cards they give when you buy fuel12:30
JohnnyMastim hacking as well atm12:31
JohnnyMastas in reverce engeneering12:31
JohnnyMastfor ubuntu12:31
JohnnyMasta new project im trying to start12:32
raphinkoh nice12:32
raphinkwhat is that?12:32
JohnnyMastthe sony net hd walkman12:32
JohnnyMasthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnnyMast/snwhd-112:32
raphinkooo12:32
raphinksony :(12:33
JohnnyMastipod bleg12:33
JohnnyMastbetter sony then an ipod12:33
raphinkhmm maybe12:33
JohnnyMastbesides ipod is nothing new but soo wanted12:33
JohnnyMasti dont get it12:33
Hieronymusjust buy an ogg vorbis player12:33
raphinkyes12:34
Hieronymushttp://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers12:34
raphinkiriver for example12:34
slomo_for example some iriver player ;)12:34
raphinkor samsung12:34
raphinkyes12:34
raphinkkio-iriver powa :)12:34
JohnnyMastyou will be happy when i hack the damm device12:34
slomo_what for? ;) mount them as normal ums device12:34
JohnnyMastto me ?12:35
JohnnyMastslomo_ ??12:36
raphinkJohnnyMast: no12:36
raphinkJohnnyMast: for iriver12:36
JohnnyMastok12:36
raphinkno need for kio12:36
slomo_JohnnyMast: ?12:36
JohnnyMastslomo_ ?12:36
slomo_confusion  :P12:36
JohnnyMastlol yeah well drop it :p12:37
raphinkJohnnyMast: !12:37
raphinkslomo_: !12:37
JohnnyMastraphink ?12:37
JohnnyMast:p12:37
JohnnyMastim gonna play call of duty 2 in a few12:39
raphink:)12:40
raphinkhere is call of dirty12:40
raphinkbut I'm too tired to clean12:40
JohnnyMastany one intested playing over a vpn once (hence pirate software)12:40
raphinkno12:40
JohnnyMasti cant use my key on public servers12:40
raphinkI'd rather play wesnoth12:41
JohnnyMastwesnoth whats htat?12:41
JohnnyMastalso a war game ?12:41
HieronymusJohnnyMast: fantasy turn-based RPG12:41
JohnnyMastlike final fantacy ?12:42
JohnnyMastooh rpg12:42
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JohnnyMastok guys the ttb package is updated have fun my fingers are itching to kill some germans12:44
JohnnyMasti mean ww2 germans12:44
JohnnyMastthe bad12:45
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raphinkyeah yeahj12:46
raphinkHieronymus: do you play wesnoth?12:46
JohnnyMast_AFKsleep well raphink and all the others12:47
raphinkthanks12:47
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seth_k|lappyyou give really good comments on REVU packages, raphink :)12:48
raphinkthanks seth_k|lappy I do my best12:48
raphinkand I'm often wrong12:48
seth_k|lappyhehe12:48
seth_k|lappydo you have time to help me know how to solve one?12:49
seth_k|lappy(of your comments)12:49
raphinkwell as I'm eating maybe12:49
raphinkbut after that I'll go to bed12:49
seth_k|lappyhaha12:49
raphinkcause I have to wake up in 5 hours and drive12:49
seth_k|lappyno worries, some other time12:49
Hieronymusraphink: sometimes12:49
raphinkthat's terrible12:49
raphinkHieronymus: ok :)12:49
seth_k|lappyhave a safe drive raphink, and I will ping you about it some other time :)12:52
raphinkseth_k|lappy: if you have just a few questions about what I mean or so12:52
raphinkI can explain now12:52
seth_k|lappywell, with kat http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1177 I know how to handle all the comments except cleaning those Makefiles. I don't know how to do that.12:53
raphinkit's not the easier part12:53
raphinkwhat I'd suggest12:53
raphinkis to remove them in the clean rule in debian/rules12:53
raphinkwith rm -f series12:53
raphinkthen try to build twice12:54
raphinkto check if removing these files at clean doesn't affect build12:54
raphink(if they are generated each time it's ok)12:54
raphinkif they aren't generated, then you need to call automake/autoconf manually12:54
raphinkeither by using the DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_X flags (didn't work for me)12:55
raphinkor by restoring the makefiles running a make -f Makefile.cvs12:55
seth_k|lappyokay, well I used this to remove them: find . -name "Automake.in" -exec rm {} \;12:55
raphinkso $(MAKE) -f Makefile.cvs to have it clean in debian/rules12:55
raphinkcould be fine aswell seth_k|lappy12:55
raphinkthe point is that once you have added the clean rule to remove them12:56
raphinkyou should check12:56
raphink1) if the pb is solved :12:56
raphinkrun debuild && debuild -S -sa12:56
raphinkand check the diff for files outside debian/12:56
seth_k|lappyright12:56
raphink2) if the package builds twice (debuild without arguments)12:56
raphinkto be sure it doesn't remove files that cannot be regenerated12:56
raphinkor that would have to be regenerated manually12:57
raphinkin knmap, I had to add a pre-build rule in debian/rules12:57
raphinkto regenerate them12:57
raphinkit that enough clues to get to work ? ;)12:57
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raphinkhi crimsun12:58
seth_k|lappyhehe, I think so :) and I'm sure someone will help me if I can't get something12:58
seth_k|lappythanks again raphink12:58
crimsunhi raphink12:59
crimsunwow, xchat-gnome kicks the junk out of xchat12:59
raphinkyou're welcome seth_k|lappy12:59
raphink;)12:59
raphinkwhen do they release xchat-kde ?01:00
crimsundunno ;)01:00
raphinkhehe01:00
raphinkcrimsun: do you have some time to look at one or two packages?01:01
crimsunraphink: I will later tonight, heading out01:02
raphinkok01:02
raphinkshall I leave you some urls ?01:02
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raphinkyop Tonio_01:03
crimsunraphink: just say them here and I'll check the irclog01:03
raphinkok01:03
crimsuncya later01:03
raphinkhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=110501:03
raphinkand01:03
raphinkhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=120901:04
raphink:)01:04
crimsunok.01:04
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Genosse_DarklordHi, any maintainer for the bzflag package in ubuntu here?01:05
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Genosse_Darklordor does anyone know, how to report a bug in this package?01:06
raphinkhi Genosse_Darklord && Amaranth01:06
raphinkGenosse_Darklord: malone01:06
HieronymusGenosse_Darklord: http://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu01:06
raphinkhttp://launchpad.net/malone01:06
Amaranthhey01:06
AmaranthHieronymus: Is that your last name?01:06
HieronymusGenosse_Darklord: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzflag/+filebug01:07
HieronymusAmaranth: what? Hieronymus ? No01:07
Amaranthi know someone with that last name01:07
HieronymusMy first name is Jeroen, but Jeroen Dekkers already registered that..01:07
hubhi01:09
hubwho is daemon@poleboy.de01:09
slomo_sistpoty01:11
raphinkand he's not only01:11
raphinkonline01:11
raphinkwell not here at least01:11
hubbecause he left some comment on a package on REVU, and one of them, I have doubts.01:12
raphinkok guys01:12
raphinkgood night01:13
raphinkI'm going01:13
Hieronymusgood morning!01:13
Genosse_Darklordlater01:13
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hubslomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=840 <- the comment about the -dbg content that he did01:13
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slomo_hub: the /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.0 should be /usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.001:15
slomo_afaik01:15
slomo_but better read about this in the policy01:15
hubslomo: I'll read the policy, but it is a debug library, and the other debug library do that AFAIK01:17
hubslomo_: I just check the other packaged. I'll re-read the policy anyway01:17
slomo_anyway... gn8 everybody :)01:20
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seth_k|lappywhen using the DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_blah variable in debian/rules, how can I install two manpages? (the .deb contains two binaries)03:11
crimsunthat looks like cdbs03:13
crimsunnormally with vanilla debhelper, you'd just pass the man pages as parameters to the dh_installman call in debian/rules03:13
crimsunotherwise you can use debian/package.manpages03:14
seth_k|lappyright, it's cdbs03:15
seth_k|lappyyeah, this is a verrrry cdbs'd package; none of the dh_* calls are there03:16
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zakamehi all!03:32
crimsunre zak03:32
jdonggreetings03:33
zakamehi crimsun03:33
zakamehi jdong03:33
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seth_k|lappyis there anyone awake right now with access to tiber? One of my uploads failed in the middle, and now REVU is choking when I try to re-upload. And dcut'ing a .commands file apparently isn't working.04:29
crimsunzakame: no need to proxy requests to elmo. In fact, he becomes rather displeased. Just ask for them.04:36
zakamecrimsun: oh, k. Will keep that in mind then ;)04:36
zakamegtg, lunch :D04:37
crimsun:)04:37
zakamethanks again crimsun :)04:38
crimsunno sweat :)04:38
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Sepheebearwhat configfile is responsible for giving the values of distribution?05:01
Sepheebearwhen i edit a changelog, vi shows red if i put in "dapper" as the distribution05:02
Sepheebearbut if i put in "breezy" or "unstable" its fine05:03
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minghuaSepheebear: I believe you just need a newer version (the one in dapper, for example) of vim05:23
minghuaSepheebear: vim (1:6.4-001+2ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low ... * Add 'dapper' to the list of supported distribution keywords.05:23
Sepheebearahh i wanna know where was that change was made, there has to be a config somewhere05:25
Sepheebearbut thanks at least now i know im looking at vim05:26
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raphinkseth_k|lappy: you need to use dput -f or remove the .upload05:39
seth_k|lappyraphink, I tried dput -f, no go05:40
raphinkdid you try removing the .upload or renaming it?05:41
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seth_k|lappyhow would I do that? I tried using dcut, but tiber doesn't appear to be set up to handle .commands05:41
seth_k|lappyraphink, I get: Uploading via ftp kat_0.6.4-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of kat_0.6.4-0ubuntu1.dsc05:43
seth_k|lappybecause my connection dropped mid-upload :P05:43
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raphinksee with sistpoty about that when he's online seth_k|lappy05:53
seth_k|lappyyeah, was what I planned. siretart though, isn't it?05:53
raphinkoh whoever ;)05:53
raphinknot me though ;)05:53
raphinksiretart would be able to help, too05:54
raphinkand dholbach aswell I believe05:54
seth_k|lappygo on, ping them all why don't you :P05:54
seth_k|lappyhehe05:54
raphinkbut I think they're all europeans (as I am)05:55
raphinkand it's not really hacking time here ;)05:55
raphink(as far as hacking time could be held at 6 AM)05:56
seth_k|lappyah well05:56
seth_k|lappyI did fix all your comments on kat raphink :)05:56
seth_k|lappyso it should be good to go05:56
raphinkok that's good :)05:56
raphinkI'll have a look when I'm back05:57
raphinkin two days that is ;)05:57
raphinkunless you get it advocated before that05:58
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raphinkhaha06:00
raphinkwell comments are not here as sanctions06:00
raphinkwe don't want just good packages in ubuntu06:00
raphinkwe want great ones ;)06:00
raphinkthe better packages leave REVU06:01
raphinkand better packages get to NEW06:01
raphinkthe better packages get in universe06:01
raphink;)06:01
raphinkI'm gone06:12
raphinkbye guys06:12
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crimsun'night, back later.06:47
Sepheebearanywhere know of a nice bzr how-to?07:11
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ajmitchSepheebear: on bazaar.canonical.com ?07:13
Sepheebearthanks ajmitch coudnt find one on the wiki07:14
ajmitchhm07:14
ajmitchthere ought to be at least 1 or 2 good tutorials on there07:14
ajmitchlast I looked there were07:14
Sepheebeari was doing a title search07:16
ajmitchhttp://bazaar.canonical.com/IntroductionToBzr is a start07:17
ajmitchwhich I found on http://bazaar.canonical.com/BzrDocumentation07:17
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ajmitchsigh, this box has rebooted about 5 times in the last 30 min07:52
ajmitchdamn overheating :(07:53
lifelessheh08:11
jsgotangcodon't abuse it!08:11
lifelesshere, have my spare heat08:12
lifelesswe have tonnes08:12
ajmitchno no, I've got more than enough heat for this computer08:15
jsgotangcociao08:23
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | Grab your merge here: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new | sign up for ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com now!
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jpatrickany MOTUs around?11:56
ajmitchmaybe11:59
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jpatrickajmitch: I need one more person to look @ http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=121412:00
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ajmitchthe 'maybe' being that it's midnight here :)12:06
StevenKHeh12:11
StevenKajmitch: How can I find out who is to blame for a sync?12:11
StevenKwnn6-sdk 1.0.0-13 was synced, and it had no hope in high hell of building, but it was synced anyway.12:11
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(StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) By your reasoning I shouldn't even merge xemacs since emacs exists.12:27
=== StevenK applies that logic to other software, like Lintian and Linda.
(StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) Mithrandir: You know that argument is crap, but you still play the tune.12:27
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(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) StevenK: sorry, I'm bored. :-)12:28
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) and angry12:28
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) I should just go an play ET or something12:28
StevenKET?12:28
=== StevenK is pondering making UT2k4 work under Ubuntu.
StevenKI'd play the PS2, but my wife and mother-in-law are watching a DVD.12:29
Mithrandirenemy territory.12:30
StevenKAhhh12:30
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thierryI need to package something that uses ruby to build with stuff like "ruby install.rb config", cdbs can't help me there right?01:29
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thierryKyral : I need to package something that uses ruby to build with stuff like "ruby install.rb config", cdbs can't help me there right?01:43
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azeemlifeless: do we really need debhelper (>= 5) for opensync?  It breaks building for breezy02:43
lifelessazeem: the -dbg support02:45
lifelessazeem: how does it break on breezy?02:45
slomobreezy has only debhelper 402:46
lifelessmeh.02:46
lifelessslomo: you running breezy ?02:46
slomono02:47
lifelessazeem: are you?02:47
azeemyes02:47
lifelesscan you look at man debhelper02:47
azeemI'll just backport it02:48
lifelesssee if it has compat level 5?02:48
azeembtw, I think we need a Build-Depend on libtool02:48
lifelessif it does, we can reduce the dependency02:48
lifelessyes, we do02:48
azeemit builds fine if I just loosen the Build-Depends02:48
azeemlet me check the -dbg package02:48
azeemwell, there are files in /usr/lib/debug02:49
lifelessok02:49
lifelessmake it the debhelper you have or greater then ;002:49
azeem>= 4.9.0 might be fine, according to the changelog02:50
lifelessnot much point installing .la files for the plugins huh02:51
azeemright02:51
azeemI started packaging as well, btw02:52
lifelesscool02:52
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lifelessI'm doing irmc at the moment02:53
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azeemI did evo, palm, file and irmc so far02:53
lifelessoh, doh02:53
azeemand multisync0.9002:54
lifelesswhere are your packages? I want the file, evo & irmc ones :)02:54
seth_k|lappysiretart, are you about? I have a half-uploaded file that is borking my revu upload that I need deleted :)02:54
seth_k|lappysiretart, never mind, looks like somebody already handled it02:55
azeemlifeless: I can upload the source package somewhere, I'm currently rebuilding against breezy to test02:55
siretartseth_k|lappy: I did that earlier today, there is a kat upload currently in incoming02:55
lifelessazeem: yes please!02:55
seth_k|lappysiretart, thank you, sorry about that :)02:55
seth_k|lappyreuploading now and it's working fine02:55
siretartseth_k|lappy: the ftp server config is shit, I know. perhaps I should use something else than vs-ftpd02:56
seth_k|lappyhehe02:56
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azeemlifeless: so I wonder what to do with the plugins WRT package deps03:02
azeemlifeless: how about libopensync0 Recommends them all, and opensync also gets an empty meta-package libopensync-plugin-all, which Depends: on all?03:02
lifelessazeem: I'm really not sure either03:03
azeemok, let's see how this opensync stuff works03:10
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lifelessazeem: package names03:13
lifelesswhat do you think of opensync-plugin-* rather than libopensync-plugin-*03:13
lifeless(they dont provide directly usable libraries themselves)03:13
azeemsounds good03:14
lifelessare you publish bzr branches of these ?03:15
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lifelessok03:19
lifelessmsynctool --listplugins03:19
lifelessAvailable plugins:03:19
lifelessfile-sync03:19
lifelessazeem: yay03:19
azeemwell, I don't get the GUI to work03:19
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azeemopening evo2-sync plugin03:19
azeemUnable to find MSyncPlugin (evo2-sync)!!!03:19
lifelessmmm03:19
lifelessis that its gui plugin03:19
lifelessor the opensync plugin?03:20
lifeless(it looks like there are parallel plugins, one for the gui one for the engine03:20
azeemhrm03:20
azeemwow, the multisync-0.90 tarball includes object files03:21
lifelessmuahha03:21
lifelessthats why I go from svn :)03:21
lifelessmuch cleaner03:21
lifelessoh eek03:22
lifelessdoes cdbs do vpath builds and warnings on uninstalled files?03:22
azeemvpath == build-out-of-srcdir?03:23
azeemthen yes03:23
lifelessyes03:23
azeemwell, not by default03:23
lifelesswould you mind if we don't use cdbs ? It still feels far too magic to me03:25
lifelesscompletely up to you, just asking03:25
azeemhaha, msynctool --configure S55 1 drops me in vi03:26
azeemand presents some XML03:27
lifelessyeah03:27
azeemlifeless: sure03:27
lifelesslow-level :)03:27
azeemhrm msynctool --sync segfaults03:29
lifelessgarh03:29
lifelessok, I have what looks roughly sane for a irmc w/o cdbs03:30
azeemok, I'll snatch your rules, and update the other plugins with it03:31
lifelesshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18-debian-dir/03:32
lifelesshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18/ <- the upstream I exported the tarball from03:32
lifelesshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18-debian/ the debian dir itself03:33
lifelessbut give me a minute, I'll upload the literal files03:33
lifelessgod bless configure-in-diffs03:34
lifelesshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/packages/03:35
azeemwhat did you have to change in configure.in?03:35
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lifelessin this case nothing, but svn does not have configure03:35
azeemoh, ok.  I used their tarballs03:35
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lifeless(but it also does not have .o files :))03:36
azeemok, I need to go do some christmas shopping now03:36
azeemlaters03:36
lifelessok03:36
lifelessI'll see if the walkthrough works without segfaulting for me03:37
lifelessworks for me03:38
lifelessmsynctool --sync filefile03:38
lifelessSynchronizing group "filefile"03:38
lifelessMember 1 of type file-sync had an error while connecting: Unable to open directory /tmp/filefile03:38
lifelessMember 2 of type file-sync had an error while connecting: Unable to open directory /tmp/filefile203:38
lifelessAll clients have disconnected03:38
lifelessThe sync failed: Unable to connect one of the members03:38
lifelessError synchronizing: Unable to connect one of the members03:38
lifelessand works with the dirs existing03:38
azeemcould well be irmc, I didn't change the configuration03:39
lifelessok03:40
lifelessI'll try irmc now03:40
lifelessdid you set irname ?03:41
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lifelessazeem: it ran03:50
lifelessazeem: no segfault.03:50
lifelessI had configured the plugin03:50
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lifelessnight all04:04
lifelessirmc is not crashing but not working04:05
lifelessI think I need the gui to configur eit04:05
ograhmm, i would so like to know why willow needs python-profiler ...04:13
ograisnt a profiler only used for debugging ?04:13
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siretartogra: what is willow?04:33
ograthe coolest proxy i know ...04:33
ograsmall, quick and written in python ...04:34
KyralMorning04:34
ograit uses bayesian filtering instead of urllists, so no maintenance needed, its self learning04:34
ograi'D love to include it in main for edubuntu. but it depends on python-profiler and i dont know why ...04:35
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JohnnyMasthi TheMuso06:19
JohnnyMastTheMuso would you like to review ttb ?06:32
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shawarmawtf.... I have start times in my ps output that are 35 in the future.07:26
shawarmawow, it's quiet in here today.07:29
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JohnnyMastis every one out in the pub or something ?07:52
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LaserJockJohnnyMast: getting ready for Christmas vacation ;-)07:57
JohnnyMastwow cool can i join you ?07:58
LaserJocknot unless you come to NV, USA07:59
JohnnyMastif you pay my trip :p08:00
JohnnyMastthen ile sign your key08:00
LaserJockhmm, that almost sounds tempting ;-) but no I gotta pay for my trip so I'll be broke08:02
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JohnnyMasthehe08:06
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JohnnyMastany reviewer alive ?08:16
Treenaksno, they all dropped dead when they saw your package08:17
JohnnyMasthehe08:17
JohnnyMasti saw you on the fosdem list08:20
JohnnyMastjust a sec ago08:20
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Gloubiboulgahello08:22
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JohnnyMasthi Gloubiboulga08:22
JohnnyMasteverything okey ?08:23
Gloubiboulgawell... I'll say yes :)08:24
JohnnyMast:)08:26
JohnnyMastgood to hear08:26
Gloubiboulgahum, dpkg-buildpackage failed!...08:31
GloubiboulgaI should have wait a little before answering you08:31
JohnnyMastwhats the building problem ?08:32
Gloubiboulgait's a dpkg-source problem: unrepresentable changes to source08:33
GloubiboulgaI was running debuils -S -sa, after the .deb build08:33
Gloubiboulgadebuild*08:33
JohnnyMastaaah08:34
JohnnyMastwell then you added of deleted files08:34
JohnnyMastthey are mostly warnings08:34
GloubiboulgaI've got several warnings like : dpkg-source: cannot represent change to obj/linux/main_widget.o: binary file contents changed08:35
HieronymusGloubiboulga: does make clean work correctly?08:36
JohnnyMastor maybe you did sudo debuild before08:36
Gloubiboulganop...08:37
GloubiboulgaI have just seen why08:37
JohnnyMastso you dont have permissions to get the changes working08:37
JohnnyMasthmmm08:37
JohnnyMastcan you upload a buildlog in paste bin for us ?08:37
GloubiboulgaI just have to change the order of 2 commands I think08:37
GloubiboulgaI remove Makefile before running `make clean` in debian/rules08:39
Gloubiboulgait's not a good idea ;)08:39
JohnnyMastwait08:39
JohnnyMastwhy dont you call distclean in clean ?08:39
JohnnyMastinstead of make clean ?08:39
JohnnyMast(if you had it that way)08:40
GloubiboulgaThere's no rule in for makefile for distclean08:40
JohnnyMasthmm thats a shame08:40
JohnnyMastbecause that would work like a charm then only thing you had to remove where the stamps08:40
GloubiboulgaI'll ask upstream to add this08:42
JohnnyMastgood good08:42
Gloubiboulgait works fine now08:43
JohnnyMastgood news to hear :)08:44
GloubiboulgaJohnnyMast, Hieronymus, thanks for your help08:44
JohnnyMastGloubiboulga come over when ever you like08:44
GloubiboulgaI will :)08:44
JohnnyMastoki08:44
Gloubiboulgaraphink helped me a lot these days on #ubuntu-fr08:45
GloubiboulgaI really like the ubuntu spirit :D08:45
JohnnyMastyes its a comunity, you dont see that any else where in an os08:46
JohnnyMastwell maybe firefly bsd08:46
JohnnyMastmy builder is bitching as well08:47
JohnnyMastlast time i had to patch setup.py08:48
GloubiboulgaI'm uploading the source package on REVU08:52
JohnnyMastawsome what are you packing ?08:52
Gloubiboulgajargoninformatique08:52
Gloubiboulgait's a french dictionary08:52
JohnnyMastperl ?08:52
Gloubiboulganop08:53
Gloubiboulgac++08:53
JohnnyMastaaah right08:53
JohnnyMastin doing a c++ package now as well08:54
JohnnyMaston kryptor a package by my own team. wich is already in fedora and gentoo08:56
Gloubiboulgacongratulations :)08:57
JohnnyMastGloubiboulga thanks very much08:57
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JohnnyMasti cant access you package dir09:03
Gloubiboulgasame for me...09:04
JohnnyMasthow was that before09:04
JohnnyMastwas it always like this ?09:04
GloubiboulgaI don't really know...09:05
GloubiboulgaI'm sorry, I have to leave now...09:06
JohnnyMastthats okey have fun this weekend09:06
GloubiboulgaThanks :)09:06
JohnnyMast:)09:06
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JohnnyMastthats strange ... pbuilder cant find libx11-dev when downloading deps09:09
seth_k|lappysudo pbuilder update09:11
JohnnyMastdid that already, its fixed now09:11
JohnnyMastbut after it was download and installed i get this09:11
JohnnyMastchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!09:11
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minghuacrimsun: ping10:40
crimsunminghua: pong10:41
minghuacrimsun: just to give you an update on the rebuild status (libstdc++ transition) of scim related packages10:42
crimsunok10:42
minghuacrimsun: scim-tables was synced from unstable today10:42
minghuascim-pinyin and scim-uim should have new debian upload in two weeks10:43
eruin\sh_away, you're in dire need of new blogging software ;)10:43
crimsunminghua: ok10:44
minghuaso if there is no urgent requests, the packages that needs rebuild uploads should be -anthy, -canna, -chewing, -prime, -skk and mlterm10:44
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sistpotyhi folks10:44
minghuahi sistpoty10:44
crimsunminghua: just strictly rebuilds and no other changes?10:45
minghuacrimsun: yes, because of the libstdc++ allocator c2->c2a transition10:46
minghuacrimsun: actually I don't know if MOTUs accepts such rebuild requests now10:46
crimsunminghua: ok, do you want to provide debdiffs? They're fairly straight forward; otherwise I'll process them tonight10:47
crimsunyeah, we just bump the version and reupload10:47
sistpotywhat packages are you talking about?10:47
minghuacrimsun: what about I providing debdiffs and you help upload them all (including -pinyin and -uim)?10:47
crimsunminghua: sure10:47
minghuacrimsun: I would like to have scim stuff all working in dapper10:47
crimsunsistpoty: scim-* in dapper being rebuilt10:48
minghuasiretart: scim related stuff, input methods10:48
sistpotyah, ok...10:48
=== sistpoty just wondered if some of the k* packages of the merge list could get dropped
minghuacrimsun: I use malone to paste debdiffs, right?10:48
crimsunminghua: yep10:49
sistpotymerge list updated once again... 95->119 unassigned merges10:54
crimsunsigh10:55
crimsunI was proud of knocking it under 100, too. Gee thanks. ;)10:55
sistpotysorry crimsun ;)10:55
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HieronymusIf I want to be able to upload a packge to REVU, I e-mail keyring@tiber.tauware.de with a signed e-mail, right?10:58
Hieronymus*package10:58
JohnnyMastHieronymus you need to send ur key number10:59
JohnnyMastand upload your key to keyserver.ubuntu.com10:59
sistpotyHieronymus: are you jeroen van splunder?11:00
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Hieronymussistpoty: yes11:01
sistpotyHieronymus: didn't get my reply email?11:01
Hieronymussistpoty: no11:01
sistpotyHieronymus: I added you to revu's keyring, so you should be able to upload packages to revu11:01
Hieronymussistpoty: thank you11:02
sistpotynp11:02
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=== Hieronymus waits five minutes
Hieronymussistpoty: did you send it a long time ago?11:06
sistpotyHieronymus: I sent it this afternoon11:06
sistpotyHieronymus: to jeroen-91_at_home.nl11:07
Hieronymushttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=123211:07
Hieronymussistpoty: weird11:07
sistpotywhat's weird? the package or that you didn't get the mail?11:08
sistpotyHieronymus: I can resend it, if you want11:09
Hieronymussistpoty: that I didn't get the mail11:11
sistpotyah11:11
\shmoins11:13
sistpotyhi \sh11:13
Kyralyo11:16
sistpoty\sh: how exactly did you want revu's list to be resorted?11:16
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\shsistpoty: sorted by advocates and comments11:17
sistpotyfirst criteria #advocates and 2nd num of comments... for specific upload only or for all uploads referring to a sourcepackage?11:17
\shsistpoty: I think of all uploads...so we can see on which package was worked more11:18
sistpotyok11:18
sistpotyand should I distinguish between new packages and updates for sorting?11:19
crimsunpersonally, yes11:19
\shoh the i386 buildds are somewhat screwed today?11:19
\shsistpoty: would be cool11:19
crimsun\sh: appears so11:19
\shsistpoty: so oldest package first :)11:19
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Hieronymussistpoty: "You don't have permission to access /revu1-incoming/bulldozer-0512171705/bulldozer_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes on this server."11:20
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sistpotyHieronymus: the changes is only useful for the procedure of updating11:20
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sistpotyHieronymus: and it shouldn't be accessible... e.g. I upload a source-package to revu, anyone could grab it and put it to ubuntu -> no access to changes11:21
Hieronymussistpoty: but REVU links to these things11:22
sistpoty\sh: just that I got that right: 1st criteria: update/new... 2nd #advocates, 3rd #comments, 4th #age (fifo)11:22
\shHieronymus: only for informational purposes11:22
\shsistpoty: yes..but advocates only on the latest upload :)11:22
sistpotyok... /me will need a beer for this :)11:23
\shsistpoty: lucky guy.../me had a half breakdown today11:23
sistpotyoh... what happened?11:23
sistpotydue to illness?11:24
\shthink so...11:26
\shthis morning after the guys from the heating system company left, I wanted to go out shopping...11:27
\shAnd lucky I am, I went down the stairs in front of my flat, and on the last step I was a bit dizzy11:29
sistpotyoh... hope you'll recover soon, then11:29
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\shand felt on my back..directly on the stairs...lucky that I didn't bang my head11:30
crimsunhope you feel better soon, \sh11:30
sistpotyouch11:30
\shcrimsun: I have to...I can't even focus sometimes...I really don't know what's up with me11:30
ajmitchhi11:32
ajmitch\sh: hm, doesn't sound good11:33
\shajmitch: i'm getting old and senile11:37
ogra???11:38
ogragetting ?11:38
ogra;)11:39
\shogra: thx :) I need that now :)11:39
ograheh11:39
\shbtw...ntfs (win xp formatted) and linux amd64?11:39
ogracome on, we'Re the same age11:39
\shwhy can't I mount my external HD?11:39
\shogra: yes...that's why I appreaciate your comment :)11:40
crimsun\sh: what does dmesg|tail say regarding the attempt?11:40
\shcrimsun: that it's mounted11:41
\shcrimsun: but reading is not possible input/output error11:41
\shbut it's readable with windows xp itself11:41
ajmitch\sh: don't worry, I made a major life change yesterday11:41
ajmitchgnome broke, so I'm using KDE11:41
crimsunsounds like the error I'm having with a usb cdrw11:41
\shcrimsun: well..same hd, diff. partition with reiserfs works like a charm :)11:42
\shajmitch: hehe..you see...sometimes a cycle of >6months is more useful :)11:43
sistpotyoh boy... the query for revu's list is 38 lines...11:43
crimsun\sh: I'm not sure if you can force a journal replay and fsck the NTFS partition, but that's what I'd try first11:43
\shsistpoty: already normalized?11:43
\shcrimsun: but the filesystem is clean...I checked with windows XP on my toshiba here11:44
sistpoty\sh: what do you mean with normalized? the tables are normalized... that's just a sql statement11:44
\shsistpoty: but 38lines....11:45
\shthat's a lot :)11:45
sistpotyit is... but it's only half of it actually since it's a union statement of needwork/good packages11:46
\shcrimsun: but i'm checking again with ntfsprogs11:46
\shcrimsun: hmm...how do I do a ntfs fsck on linux...11:47
crimsun\sh: not sure, never done it before11:50
crimsunah, ntfsfix(8)11:51
crimsunwell, it doesn't do everything in Linux per se11:52
\shjepp11:52
\shwell..so I backup the drive tomorrow with windows xp11:52
\shoergs11:52
\shaka "I hate it"11:52
\shoh and btw...the exorcism of emily rose --> watch it :)11:53
ajmitchthere is a way to force a chkdsk in xp11:53
ajmitch\sh: yeah, I saw it a few weeks ago11:53
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ajmitchI had to go to the console to see that there were ntfs errors11:54
\shajmitch: in xp yes..but not in linux :)11:54
\shajmitch: I have always problems with ntfs partitions from win xp prof.11:54
minghuaajmitch: how is gnome broken?11:54
ajmitchntfs is always a problem11:54
ajmitchminghua: panel was hanging, etc11:54
=== minghua just finished aptitude upgrade and is afraid to restart X now :-(
lifelessazeem: around ?11:55
crimsunminghua: fwiw, I killed gdm before I joined, and everything seems to work here11:57
\shogra: btw...did you buy now a mac ?11:57
ogranope, not yet11:57
ograyou ?11:57
minghuacrimsun: Thanks.  I didn't upgrade panel stuff, so I think I am fine.11:57
\shogra: me? no...don't have the money :)11:58
\shogra: but there is an apple cube for 405 eur on ebay11:59
ajmitchminghua: mine hadn't been restarted since breezy or so11:59
\shor ibook g4 for 44111:59
ogradircet buy ?11:59
ogra*direct12:00
ajmitchminghua: and some of my troubles were also due to the computer having rebooted due to overheating ;)12:00
lifelesswooo12:00
ajmitchmorning lifeless12:00
lifelessola!12:00
\shogra: no12:00
ograso how long to go for each one ?12:01

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