=== womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] slomo_ its uploaded [12:08] lets wait until it shows up [12:09] Is there a good dput guide somewhere? [12:09] man dput [12:09] on the wiki [12:10] somewhere in the MOTU section :) [12:10] under REVU [12:11] slomo_ its there now [12:16] hmm [12:16] would be good if REVU passed comments as GET instead of POST [12:17] yes [12:17] so it doesn't send it again when you refersh the page [12:17] F5 produest a new post [12:17] hehe [12:17] yes [12:17] if ur monitoring ur posts [12:17] exactly [12:17] so it needs to be GET [12:17] we both had the same :) [12:18] but sistpoty is not around [12:18] JohnnyMast: all the time.... [12:18] I always post twice because of this [12:18] raphink speaking of revu [12:18] I post a comment and watch the evolution of the package [12:18] there is one othe bug [12:18] JohnnyMast: hehe [12:18] what? [12:18] a typo [12:18] where? [12:18] for example [12:19] Package was uploaded from: anthony.mercatante@laposte.net [12:19] its uploaded BY [12:19] oh in REVU you mean [12:19] yes [12:19] we ought to collect all this for sistpoty [12:19] well revu to mailing [12:19] I filed bugs aswell [12:19] about the fact that packagers can advocate their uploads [12:20] and that index.* files are interpreted by apache which is not nice and could be avoided [12:20] i have read the revu2 TODO [12:20] and thats in there already [12:21] good :) [12:21] well the GET is really a must [12:22] yeah man :) [12:22] :) [12:22] I love open-source because often you don't have issues, you have solutions :) [12:23] with proprietary software, you just have bugs [12:23] with open-source, you have fixes :) [12:23] yes you got that right [12:23] and you can discuss with with guys about why it doesn't work [12:23] not to mention mad ppl who use the software [12:23] and how to fix it [12:23] yes [12:23] well there are mad people in open-source aswell [12:24] but you can just tell them that if they're not happy [12:24] humans are mad by definition ;) [12:24] they're [12:24] 1) free to not use it [12:24] 2) happily invited to fix [12:24] well they are just A) twsted or B) blackhat [12:24] i had a lot of B) [12:24] lot of exposers on my prev devel [12:24] hehe [12:25] yes === raphink remembers the first patches he used, without knowing how a patch worked [12:25] those are not our kind of ppl [12:25] they pic a bug and try every thing to make fun of the author [12:25] and dont contact him [12:25] patch to get all levels in Prince of Persia on Macintosh [12:25] well yes they do but only when they made fun of him [12:27] mhm [12:27] well I'd reckon that blackhats can be very good hackers [12:28] I remember having had to hack in assembly 68k [12:28] a compiled program [12:28] that's harder than hacking bash, perl or python [12:28] ;) [12:28] so when blackhats turn good eventually [12:28] it's a great opportunity for us ;) [12:29] raphink you dont have to be blackhat for that [12:29] a 2600 hacker is white like kevin [12:30] well [12:30] no not kevin he was black [12:30] lol [12:30] but [12:30] hacking a cellphone is easy enough for every one [12:30] indeed [12:30] or most small points cards they give when you buy fuel [12:31] im hacking as well atm [12:31] as in reverce engeneering [12:31] for ubuntu [12:32] a new project im trying to start [12:32] oh nice [12:32] what is that? [12:32] the sony net hd walkman [12:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnnyMast/snwhd-1 [12:32] ooo [12:33] sony :( [12:33] ipod bleg [12:33] better sony then an ipod [12:33] hmm maybe [12:33] besides ipod is nothing new but soo wanted [12:33] i dont get it [12:33] just buy an ogg vorbis player [12:34] yes [12:34] http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers [12:34] iriver for example [12:34] for example some iriver player ;) [12:34] or samsung [12:34] yes [12:34] kio-iriver powa :) [12:34] you will be happy when i hack the damm device [12:34] what for? ;) mount them as normal ums device [12:35] to me ? [12:36] slomo_ ?? [12:36] JohnnyMast: no [12:36] JohnnyMast: for iriver [12:36] ok [12:36] no need for kio [12:36] JohnnyMast: ? [12:36] slomo_ ? [12:36] confusion :P [12:37] lol yeah well drop it :p [12:37] JohnnyMast: ! [12:37] slomo_: ! [12:37] raphink ? [12:37] :p [12:39] im gonna play call of duty 2 in a few [12:40] :) [12:40] here is call of dirty [12:40] but I'm too tired to clean [12:40] any one intested playing over a vpn once (hence pirate software) [12:40] no [12:40] i cant use my key on public servers [12:41] I'd rather play wesnoth [12:41] wesnoth whats htat? [12:41] also a war game ? [12:41] JohnnyMast: fantasy turn-based RPG [12:42] like final fantacy ? [12:42] ooh rpg === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] ok guys the ttb package is updated have fun my fingers are itching to kill some germans [12:44] i mean ww2 germans [12:45] the bad === JohnnyMast is now known as JohnnyMast_AFK [12:46] yeah yeahj [12:46] Hieronymus: do you play wesnoth? [12:47] sleep well raphink and all the others [12:47] thanks === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] you give really good comments on REVU packages, raphink :) [12:48] thanks seth_k|lappy I do my best [12:48] and I'm often wrong [12:48] hehe [12:49] do you have time to help me know how to solve one? [12:49] (of your comments) [12:49] well as I'm eating maybe [12:49] but after that I'll go to bed [12:49] haha [12:49] cause I have to wake up in 5 hours and drive [12:49] no worries, some other time [12:49] raphink: sometimes [12:49] that's terrible [12:49] Hieronymus: ok :) [12:52] have a safe drive raphink, and I will ping you about it some other time :) [12:52] seth_k|lappy: if you have just a few questions about what I mean or so [12:52] I can explain now [12:53] well, with kat http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1177 I know how to handle all the comments except cleaning those Makefiles. I don't know how to do that. [12:53] it's not the easier part [12:53] what I'd suggest [12:53] is to remove them in the clean rule in debian/rules [12:53] with rm -f series [12:54] then try to build twice [12:54] to check if removing these files at clean doesn't affect build [12:54] (if they are generated each time it's ok) [12:54] if they aren't generated, then you need to call automake/autoconf manually [12:55] either by using the DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_X flags (didn't work for me) [12:55] or by restoring the makefiles running a make -f Makefile.cvs [12:55] okay, well I used this to remove them: find . -name "Automake.in" -exec rm {} \; [12:55] so $(MAKE) -f Makefile.cvs to have it clean in debian/rules [12:55] could be fine aswell seth_k|lappy [12:56] the point is that once you have added the clean rule to remove them [12:56] you should check [12:56] 1) if the pb is solved : [12:56] run debuild && debuild -S -sa [12:56] and check the diff for files outside debian/ [12:56] right [12:56] 2) if the package builds twice (debuild without arguments) [12:56] to be sure it doesn't remove files that cannot be regenerated [12:57] or that would have to be regenerated manually [12:57] in knmap, I had to add a pre-build rule in debian/rules [12:57] to regenerate them [12:57] it that enough clues to get to work ? ;) === crimsun [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] hi crimsun [12:58] hehe, I think so :) and I'm sure someone will help me if I can't get something [12:58] thanks again raphink [12:59] hi raphink [12:59] wow, xchat-gnome kicks the junk out of xchat [12:59] you're welcome seth_k|lappy [12:59] ;) [01:00] when do they release xchat-kde ? [01:00] dunno ;) [01:00] hehe [01:01] crimsun: do you have some time to look at one or two packages? [01:02] raphink: I will later tonight, heading out [01:02] ok [01:02] shall I leave you some urls ? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] yop Tonio_ [01:03] raphink: just say them here and I'll check the irclog [01:03] ok [01:03] cya later [01:03] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1105 [01:03] and [01:04] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1209 [01:04] :) [01:04] ok. === Genosse_Darklord [n=Miranda@p50888364.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] Hi, any maintainer for the bzflag package in ubuntu here? === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] or does anyone know, how to report a bug in this package? [01:06] hi Genosse_Darklord && Amaranth [01:06] Genosse_Darklord: malone [01:06] Genosse_Darklord: http://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu [01:06] http://launchpad.net/malone [01:06] hey [01:06] Hieronymus: Is that your last name? [01:07] Genosse_Darklord: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzflag/+filebug [01:07] Amaranth: what? Hieronymus ? No [01:07] i know someone with that last name [01:07] My first name is Jeroen, but Jeroen Dekkers already registered that.. [01:09] hi [01:09] who is daemon@poleboy.de [01:11] sistpoty [01:11] and he's not only [01:11] online [01:11] well not here at least [01:12] because he left some comment on a package on REVU, and one of them, I have doubts. [01:12] ok guys [01:13] good night [01:13] I'm going [01:13] good morning! [01:13] later === Genosse_Darklord [n=Miranda@p50888364.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:13] slomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=840 <- the comment about the -dbg content that he did === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] hub: the /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.0 should be /usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.0 [01:15] afaik [01:15] but better read about this in the policy [01:17] slomo: I'll read the policy, but it is a debug library, and the other debug library do that AFAIK [01:17] slomo_: I just check the other packaged. I'll re-read the policy anyway [01:20] anyway... gn8 everybody :) === prout [n=prout@lns-bzn-16-82-248-41-61.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@24-116-61-125.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-16-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> brown.freenode.net === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-068-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@cpe-065-185-221-122.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F125.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] when using the DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_blah variable in debian/rules, how can I install two manpages? (the .deb contains two binaries) [03:13] that looks like cdbs [03:13] normally with vanilla debhelper, you'd just pass the man pages as parameters to the dh_installman call in debian/rules [03:14] otherwise you can use debian/package.manpages [03:15] right, it's cdbs [03:16] yeah, this is a verrrry cdbs'd package; none of the dh_* calls are there === seth_k|lappy will try putting them on the same line la dh_installman and see if that works === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hi all! [03:32] re zak [03:33] greetings [03:33] hi crimsun [03:33] hi jdong === zakame does a lot of catching up, misses his desktop :( === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === pef_aw [n=loic@81.56.130.224] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun_ [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] is there anyone awake right now with access to tiber? One of my uploads failed in the middle, and now REVU is choking when I try to re-upload. And dcut'ing a .commands file apparently isn't working. [04:36] zakame: no need to proxy requests to elmo. In fact, he becomes rather displeased. Just ask for them. [04:36] crimsun: oh, k. Will keep that in mind then ;) [04:37] gtg, lunch :D [04:37] :) [04:38] thanks again crimsun :) [04:38] no sweat :) === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:01] what configfile is responsible for giving the values of distribution? [05:02] when i edit a changelog, vi shows red if i put in "dapper" as the distribution [05:03] but if i put in "breezy" or "unstable" its fine === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] Sepheebear: I believe you just need a newer version (the one in dapper, for example) of vim [05:23] Sepheebear: vim (1:6.4-001+2ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low ... * Add 'dapper' to the list of supported distribution keywords. [05:25] ahh i wanna know where was that change was made, there has to be a config somewhere [05:26] but thanks at least now i know im looking at vim === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] seth_k|lappy: you need to use dput -f or remove the .upload [05:40] raphink, I tried dput -f, no go [05:41] did you try removing the .upload or renaming it? === sethk [n=seth@amethyst.cql.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] how would I do that? I tried using dcut, but tiber doesn't appear to be set up to handle .commands [05:43] raphink, I get: Uploading via ftp kat_0.6.4-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of kat_0.6.4-0ubuntu1.dsc [05:43] because my connection dropped mid-upload :P === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] === Amaranth [n=amaranth@24-116-61-125.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] see with sistpoty about that when he's online seth_k|lappy [05:53] yeah, was what I planned. siretart though, isn't it? [05:53] oh whoever ;) [05:53] not me though ;) [05:54] siretart would be able to help, too [05:54] and dholbach aswell I believe [05:54] go on, ping them all why don't you :P [05:54] hehe [05:55] but I think they're all europeans (as I am) [05:55] and it's not really hacking time here ;) [05:56] (as far as hacking time could be held at 6 AM) [05:56] ah well [05:56] I did fix all your comments on kat raphink :) [05:56] so it should be good to go [05:56] ok that's good :) [05:57] I'll have a look when I'm back [05:57] in two days that is ;) [05:58] unless you get it advocated before that === seth_k|lappy rushes to get it uploaded before he gets more comments ;) [06:00] haha [06:00] well comments are not here as sanctions [06:00] we don't want just good packages in ubuntu [06:00] we want great ones ;) [06:01] the better packages leave REVU [06:01] and better packages get to NEW [06:01] the better packages get in universe [06:01] ;) [06:12] I'm gone [06:12] bye guys === sethk [n=seth@amethyst.cql.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [06:47] 'night, back later. [07:11] anywhere know of a nice bzr how-to? === ASCIIGirl [n=machu@OL34-105.fibertel.com.ar] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:13] Sepheebear: on bazaar.canonical.com ? [07:14] thanks ajmitch coudnt find one on the wiki [07:14] hm [07:14] there ought to be at least 1 or 2 good tutorials on there [07:14] last I looked there were [07:16] i was doing a title search [07:17] http://bazaar.canonical.com/IntroductionToBzr is a start [07:17] which I found on http://bazaar.canonical.com/BzrDocumentation === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-205-157.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] sigh, this box has rebooted about 5 times in the last 30 min [07:53] damn overheating :( [08:11] heh [08:11] don't abuse it! [08:12] here, have my spare heat [08:12] we have tonnes [08:15] no no, I've got more than enough heat for this computer [08:23] ciao === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | Grab your merge here: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new | sign up for ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com now! === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by \sh at Wed Dec 14 00:06:37 2005 [10:51] <\sh> moins === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xhaker [n=xhaker@luna.sublimesp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=nnngazer@ADSL-200-59-107-43.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@165.Red-83-38-132.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xhaker [n=xhaker@luna.sublimesp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=nnnngaze@ADSL-200-59-107-43.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === etcp [i=foobar@home.etcp.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mmtb [n=mmtb@dwb177.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@c27fc601.adsl.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] any MOTUs around? [11:59] maybe === StevenK waves at ajmitch. [12:00] ajmitch: I need one more person to look @ http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1214 === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] the 'maybe' being that it's midnight here :) [12:11] Heh [12:11] ajmitch: How can I find out who is to blame for a sync? [12:11] wnn6-sdk 1.0.0-13 was synced, and it had no hope in high hell of building, but it was synced anyway. === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | Grab your merge here: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new | sign up for ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com now! === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by \sh at Wed Dec 14 00:06:37 2005 === lbm [n=lbm@80.162.42.33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] (StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) By your reasoning I shouldn't even merge xemacs since emacs exists. === StevenK applies that logic to other software, like Lintian and Linda. [12:27] (StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) Mithrandir: You know that argument is crap, but you still play the tune. === #ubuntu-motu [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks! [12:28] (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) StevenK: sorry, I'm bored. :-) [12:28] (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) and angry [12:28] (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) I should just go an play ET or something [12:28] ET? === StevenK is pondering making UT2k4 work under Ubuntu. [12:29] I'd play the PS2, but my wife and mother-in-law are watching a DVD. [12:30] enemy territory. 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It breaks building for breezy [02:45] azeem: the -dbg support [02:45] azeem: how does it break on breezy? [02:46] breezy has only debhelper 4 [02:46] meh. [02:46] slomo: you running breezy ? [02:47] no [02:47] azeem: are you? [02:47] yes [02:47] can you look at man debhelper [02:48] I'll just backport it [02:48] see if it has compat level 5? [02:48] btw, I think we need a Build-Depend on libtool [02:48] if it does, we can reduce the dependency [02:48] yes, we do [02:48] it builds fine if I just loosen the Build-Depends [02:48] let me check the -dbg package [02:49] well, there are files in /usr/lib/debug [02:49] ok [02:49] make it the debhelper you have or greater then ;0 [02:50] >= 4.9.0 might be fine, according to the changelog [02:51] not much point installing .la files for the plugins huh [02:51] right [02:52] I started packaging as well, btw [02:52] cool === sivang_ [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] I'm doing irmc at the moment === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] I did evo, palm, file and irmc so far [02:53] oh, doh [02:54] and multisync0.90 [02:54] where are your packages? I want the file, evo & irmc ones :) [02:54] siretart, are you about? I have a half-uploaded file that is borking my revu upload that I need deleted :) [02:55] siretart, never mind, looks like somebody already handled it [02:55] lifeless: I can upload the source package somewhere, I'm currently rebuilding against breezy to test [02:55] seth_k|lappy: I did that earlier today, there is a kat upload currently in incoming [02:55] azeem: yes please! [02:55] siretart, thank you, sorry about that :) [02:55] reuploading now and it's working fine [02:56] seth_k|lappy: the ftp server config is shit, I know. perhaps I should use something else than vs-ftpd [02:56] hehe === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] lifeless: so I wonder what to do with the plugins WRT package deps [03:02] lifeless: how about libopensync0 Recommends them all, and opensync also gets an empty meta-package libopensync-plugin-all, which Depends: on all? [03:03] azeem: I'm really not sure either [03:10] ok, let's see how this opensync stuff works === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-123-217.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] azeem: package names [03:13] what do you think of opensync-plugin-* rather than libopensync-plugin-* [03:13] (they dont provide directly usable libraries themselves) [03:14] sounds good [03:15] are you publish bzr branches of these ? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] ok [03:19] msynctool --listplugins [03:19] Available plugins: [03:19] file-sync [03:19] azeem: yay [03:19] well, I don't get the GUI to work === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] opening evo2-sync plugin [03:19] Unable to find MSyncPlugin (evo2-sync)!!! [03:19] mmm [03:19] is that its gui plugin [03:20] or the opensync plugin? [03:20] (it looks like there are parallel plugins, one for the gui one for the engine [03:20] hrm [03:21] wow, the multisync-0.90 tarball includes object files [03:21] muahha [03:21] thats why I go from svn :) [03:21] much cleaner [03:22] oh eek [03:22] does cdbs do vpath builds and warnings on uninstalled files? [03:23] vpath == build-out-of-srcdir? [03:23] then yes [03:23] yes [03:23] well, not by default [03:25] would you mind if we don't use cdbs ? It still feels far too magic to me [03:25] completely up to you, just asking [03:26] haha, msynctool --configure S55 1 drops me in vi [03:27] and presents some XML [03:27] yeah [03:27] lifeless: sure [03:27] low-level :) [03:29] hrm msynctool --sync segfaults [03:29] garh [03:30] ok, I have what looks roughly sane for a irmc w/o cdbs [03:31] ok, I'll snatch your rules, and update the other plugins with it [03:32] http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18-debian-dir/ [03:32] http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18/ <- the upstream I exported the tarball from [03:33] http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18-debian/ the debian dir itself [03:33] but give me a minute, I'll upload the literal files [03:34] god bless configure-in-diffs [03:35] http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/packages/ [03:35] what did you have to change in configure.in? === thesaltydog [n=fabio@ubuntu/member/thesaltydog] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] in this case nothing, but svn does not have configure [03:35] oh, ok. I used their tarballs === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] (but it also does not have .o files :)) [03:36] ok, I need to go do some christmas shopping now [03:36] laters [03:36] ok [03:37] I'll see if the walkthrough works without segfaulting for me [03:38] works for me [03:38] msynctool --sync filefile [03:38] Synchronizing group "filefile" [03:38] Member 1 of type file-sync had an error while connecting: Unable to open directory /tmp/filefile [03:38] Member 2 of type file-sync had an error while connecting: Unable to open directory /tmp/filefile2 [03:38] All clients have disconnected [03:38] The sync failed: Unable to connect one of the members [03:38] Error synchronizing: Unable to connect one of the members [03:38] and works with the dirs existing [03:39] could well be irmc, I didn't change the configuration [03:40] ok [03:40] I'll try irmc now [03:41] did you set irname ? === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] azeem: it ran [03:50] azeem: no segfault. [03:50] I had configured the plugin === ether3 [n=roger@CPE00e000ae74f2-CM000f9f52bb04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] night all [04:05] irmc is not crashing but not working [04:05] I think I need the gui to configur eit [04:13] hmm, i would so like to know why willow needs python-profiler ... [04:13] isnt a profiler only used for debugging ? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [n=tseng@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macgyver2 [n=eric@pdpc/supporter/student/macgyver2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] ogra: what is willow? [04:33] the coolest proxy i know ... [04:34] small, quick and written in python ... [04:34] Morning [04:34] it uses bayesian filtering instead of urllists, so no maintenance needed, its self learning [04:35] i'D love to include it in main for edubuntu. but it depends on python-profiler and i dont know why ... === fredix [n=fredix@183.64.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell_ [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Got] === melalcoolique [n=soliste@cim06-1-82-228-241-32.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === melalcoolique [n=soliste@cim06-1-82-228-241-32.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asbin [n=asbin@aristote.asbin.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@ubuntu/member/rbelem] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buxy [n=nraphael@arrakeen.ouaza.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-2725.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@24-116-61-125.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@212.145.78.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukas [n=lukas@pcp02403042pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-107.131.240.220.lns02-wick-bne.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] hi TheMuso [06:32] TheMuso would you like to review ttb ? === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-137-99.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] wtf.... I have start times in my ps output that are 35 in the future. [07:29] wow, it's quiet in here today. === cor2y [n=cor2y@pool-71-247-51-53.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] is every one out in the pub or something ? === bojan [n=bojan@dsl-88-48.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] JohnnyMast: getting ready for Christmas vacation ;-) [07:58] wow cool can i join you ? [07:59] not unless you come to NV, USA [08:00] if you pay my trip :p [08:00] then ile sign your key [08:02] hmm, that almost sounds tempting ;-) but no I gotta pay for my trip so I'll be broke === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-137-99.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:06] hehe === Gazer [n=gazer@ADSL-200-59-107-43.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@d005209.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@24-116-61-125.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] any reviewer alive ? [08:17] no, they all dropped dead when they saw your package [08:17] hehe [08:20] i saw you on the fosdem list [08:20] just a sec ago === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.177.0] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] hello === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] hi Gloubiboulga [08:23] everything okey ? [08:24] well... I'll say yes :) [08:26] :) [08:26] good to hear [08:31] hum, dpkg-buildpackage failed!... [08:31] I should have wait a little before answering you [08:32] whats the building problem ? [08:33] it's a dpkg-source problem: unrepresentable changes to source [08:33] I was running debuils -S -sa, after the .deb build [08:33] debuild* [08:34] aaah [08:34] well then you added of deleted files [08:34] they are mostly warnings [08:35] I've got several warnings like : dpkg-source: cannot represent change to obj/linux/main_widget.o: binary file contents changed [08:36] Gloubiboulga: does make clean work correctly? [08:36] or maybe you did sudo debuild before [08:37] nop... [08:37] I have just seen why [08:37] so you dont have permissions to get the changes working [08:37] hmmm [08:37] can you upload a buildlog in paste bin for us ? [08:37] I just have to change the order of 2 commands I think [08:39] I remove Makefile before running `make clean` in debian/rules [08:39] it's not a good idea ;) [08:39] wait [08:39] why dont you call distclean in clean ? [08:39] instead of make clean ? [08:40] (if you had it that way) [08:40] There's no rule in for makefile for distclean [08:40] hmm thats a shame [08:40] because that would work like a charm then only thing you had to remove where the stamps [08:42] I'll ask upstream to add this [08:42] good good [08:43] it works fine now [08:44] good news to hear :) [08:44] JohnnyMast, Hieronymus, thanks for your help [08:44] Gloubiboulga come over when ever you like [08:44] I will :) [08:44] oki [08:45] raphink helped me a lot these days on #ubuntu-fr [08:45] I really like the ubuntu spirit :D [08:46] yes its a comunity, you dont see that any else where in an os [08:46] well maybe firefly bsd [08:47] my builder is bitching as well [08:48] last time i had to patch setup.py [08:52] I'm uploading the source package on REVU [08:52] awsome what are you packing ? [08:52] jargoninformatique [08:52] it's a french dictionary [08:52] perl ? [08:53] nop [08:53] c++ [08:53] aaah right [08:54] in doing a c++ package now as well [08:56] on kryptor a package by my own team. wich is already in fedora and gentoo [08:57] congratulations :) [08:57] Gloubiboulga thanks very much === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] i cant access you package dir [09:04] same for me... [09:04] how was that before [09:04] was it always like this ? [09:05] I don't really know... [09:06] I'm sorry, I have to leave now... [09:06] thats okey have fun this weekend [09:06] Thanks :) [09:06] :) === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_Aw [09:09] thats strange ... pbuilder cant find libx11-dev when downloading deps [09:11] sudo pbuilder update [09:11] did that already, its fixed now [09:11] but after it was download and installed i get this [09:11] checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! === lbm [n=lbm@130.225.243.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpucci1 [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thomas_ [n=thomas@dslb-084-061-162-090.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === NeTo [n=neto@200-126-124-183.bk8-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === NeTo [n=neto@200-126-124-183.bk8-dsl.surnet.cl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === NeTo [n=neto@200-126-124-183.bk8-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] crimsun: ping [10:41] minghua: pong [10:42] crimsun: just to give you an update on the rebuild status (libstdc++ transition) of scim related packages [10:42] ok [10:42] crimsun: scim-tables was synced from unstable today [10:43] scim-pinyin and scim-uim should have new debian upload in two weeks [10:43] \sh_away, you're in dire need of new blogging software ;) [10:44] minghua: ok [10:44] so if there is no urgent requests, the packages that needs rebuild uploads should be -anthy, -canna, -chewing, -prime, -skk and mlterm === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] hi folks [10:44] hi sistpoty [10:45] minghua: just strictly rebuilds and no other changes? [10:46] crimsun: yes, because of the libstdc++ allocator c2->c2a transition [10:46] crimsun: actually I don't know if MOTUs accepts such rebuild requests now [10:47] minghua: ok, do you want to provide debdiffs? They're fairly straight forward; otherwise I'll process them tonight [10:47] yeah, we just bump the version and reupload [10:47] what packages are you talking about? [10:47] crimsun: what about I providing debdiffs and you help upload them all (including -pinyin and -uim)? [10:47] minghua: sure [10:47] crimsun: I would like to have scim stuff all working in dapper [10:48] sistpoty: scim-* in dapper being rebuilt [10:48] siretart: scim related stuff, input methods [10:48] ah, ok... === sistpoty just wondered if some of the k* packages of the merge list could get dropped [10:48] crimsun: I use malone to paste debdiffs, right? [10:49] minghua: yep [10:54] merge list updated once again... 95->119 unassigned merges [10:55] sigh [10:55] I was proud of knocking it under 100, too. Gee thanks. ;) [10:55] sorry crimsun ;) === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-2725.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] If I want to be able to upload a packge to REVU, I e-mail keyring@tiber.tauware.de with a signed e-mail, right? [10:58] *package [10:59] Hieronymus you need to send ur key number [10:59] and upload your key to keyserver.ubuntu.com [11:00] Hieronymus: are you jeroen van splunder? === Gloubi_Aw is now known as Gloubiboulga [11:01] sistpoty: yes [11:01] Hieronymus: didn't get my reply email? [11:01] sistpoty: no [11:01] Hieronymus: I added you to revu's keyring, so you should be able to upload packages to revu [11:02] sistpoty: thank you [11:02] np === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus waits five minutes [11:06] sistpoty: did you send it a long time ago? [11:06] Hieronymus: I sent it this afternoon [11:07] Hieronymus: to jeroen-91_at_home.nl [11:07] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1232 [11:07] sistpoty: weird [11:08] what's weird? the package or that you didn't get the mail? [11:09] Hieronymus: I can resend it, if you want [11:11] sistpoty: that I didn't get the mail [11:11] ah [11:13] <\sh> moins [11:13] hi \sh [11:16] yo [11:16] \sh: how exactly did you want revu's list to be resorted? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] <\sh> sistpoty: sorted by advocates and comments [11:17] first criteria #advocates and 2nd num of comments... for specific upload only or for all uploads referring to a sourcepackage? [11:18] <\sh> sistpoty: I think of all uploads...so we can see on which package was worked more [11:18] ok [11:19] and should I distinguish between new packages and updates for sorting? [11:19] personally, yes [11:19] <\sh> oh the i386 buildds are somewhat screwed today? [11:19] <\sh> sistpoty: would be cool [11:19] \sh: appears so [11:19] <\sh> sistpoty: so oldest package first :) === sistpoty just tries to sort it out [11:20] sistpoty: "You don't have permission to access /revu1-incoming/bulldozer-0512171705/bulldozer_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes on this server." === \sh sends da crackpipe to sistpoty [11:20] Hieronymus: the changes is only useful for the procedure of updating === NeTo [n=neto@200-126-124-183.bk8-dsl.surnet.cl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:21] Hieronymus: and it shouldn't be accessible... e.g. I upload a source-package to revu, anyone could grab it and put it to ubuntu -> no access to changes [11:22] sistpoty: but REVU links to these things [11:22] \sh: just that I got that right: 1st criteria: update/new... 2nd #advocates, 3rd #comments, 4th #age (fifo) [11:22] <\sh> Hieronymus: only for informational purposes [11:22] <\sh> sistpoty: yes..but advocates only on the latest upload :) [11:23] ok... /me will need a beer for this :) [11:23] <\sh> sistpoty: lucky guy.../me had a half breakdown today [11:23] oh... what happened? [11:24] due to illness? [11:26] <\sh> think so... [11:27] <\sh> this morning after the guys from the heating system company left, I wanted to go out shopping... [11:29] <\sh> And lucky I am, I went down the stairs in front of my flat, and on the last step I was a bit dizzy [11:29] oh... hope you'll recover soon, then === sistpoty is out for a smoke now... brb [11:30] <\sh> and felt on my back..directly on the stairs...lucky that I didn't bang my head [11:30] hope you feel better soon, \sh [11:30] ouch [11:30] <\sh> crimsun: I have to...I can't even focus sometimes...I really don't know what's up with me [11:32] hi [11:33] \sh: hm, doesn't sound good [11:37] <\sh> ajmitch: i'm getting old and senile [11:38] ??? [11:38] getting ? [11:39] ;) [11:39] <\sh> ogra: thx :) I need that now :) [11:39] heh [11:39] <\sh> btw...ntfs (win xp formatted) and linux amd64? [11:39] come on, we'Re the same age [11:39] <\sh> why can't I mount my external HD? [11:40] <\sh> ogra: yes...that's why I appreaciate your comment :) [11:40] \sh: what does dmesg|tail say regarding the attempt? [11:41] <\sh> crimsun: that it's mounted [11:41] <\sh> crimsun: but reading is not possible input/output error [11:41] <\sh> but it's readable with windows xp itself [11:41] \sh: don't worry, I made a major life change yesterday [11:41] gnome broke, so I'm using KDE [11:41] sounds like the error I'm having with a usb cdrw [11:42] <\sh> crimsun: well..same hd, diff. partition with reiserfs works like a charm :) [11:43] <\sh> ajmitch: hehe..you see...sometimes a cycle of >6months is more useful :) [11:43] oh boy... the query for revu's list is 38 lines... [11:43] \sh: I'm not sure if you can force a journal replay and fsck the NTFS partition, but that's what I'd try first [11:43] <\sh> sistpoty: already normalized? [11:44] <\sh> crimsun: but the filesystem is clean...I checked with windows XP on my toshiba here [11:44] \sh: what do you mean with normalized? the tables are normalized... that's just a sql statement [11:45] <\sh> sistpoty: but 38lines.... [11:45] <\sh> that's a lot :) [11:46] it is... but it's only half of it actually since it's a union statement of needwork/good packages [11:46] <\sh> crimsun: but i'm checking again with ntfsprogs [11:47] <\sh> crimsun: hmm...how do I do a ntfs fsck on linux... [11:50] \sh: not sure, never done it before [11:51] ah, ntfsfix(8) [11:52] well, it doesn't do everything in Linux per se [11:52] <\sh> jepp [11:52] <\sh> well..so I backup the drive tomorrow with windows xp [11:52] <\sh> oergs [11:52] <\sh> aka "I hate it" [11:53] <\sh> oh and btw...the exorcism of emily rose --> watch it :) [11:53] there is a way to force a chkdsk in xp [11:53] \sh: yeah, I saw it a few weeks ago === ajmitch had a box where the partitioning in the ubuntu installer would silently fail [11:54] I had to go to the console to see that there were ntfs errors [11:54] <\sh> ajmitch: in xp yes..but not in linux :) [11:54] <\sh> ajmitch: I have always problems with ntfs partitions from win xp prof. [11:54] ajmitch: how is gnome broken? [11:54] ntfs is always a problem [11:54] minghua: panel was hanging, etc === minghua just finished aptitude upgrade and is afraid to restart X now :-( [11:55] azeem: around ? [11:57] minghua: fwiw, I killed gdm before I joined, and everything seems to work here [11:57] <\sh> ogra: btw...did you buy now a mac ? [11:57] nope, not yet [11:57] you ? [11:57] crimsun: Thanks. I didn't upgrade panel stuff, so I think I am fine. [11:58] <\sh> ogra: me? no...don't have the money :) [11:59] <\sh> ogra: but there is an apple cube for 405 eur on ebay [11:59] minghua: mine hadn't been restarted since breezy or so [11:59] <\sh> or ibook g4 for 441 [11:59] dircet buy ? [12:00] *direct [12:00] minghua: and some of my troubles were also due to the computer having rebooted due to overheating ;) [12:00] wooo [12:00] morning lifeless [12:00] ola! [12:00] <\sh> ogra: no [12:01] so how long to go for each one ?