[12:08] <JohnnyMast> slomo_ its uploaded
[12:08] <JohnnyMast> lets wait until it shows up
[12:09] <Hieronymus> Is there a good dput guide somewhere?
[12:09] <JohnnyMast> man dput
[12:09] <Seveas> on the wiki
[12:10] <Seveas> somewhere in the MOTU section :)
[12:10] <JohnnyMast> under REVU
[12:11] <JohnnyMast> slomo_ its there now
[12:16] <raphink> hmm
[12:16] <raphink> would be good if REVU passed comments as GET instead of POST
[12:17] <JohnnyMast> yes
[12:17] <raphink> so it doesn't send it again when you refersh the page
[12:17] <JohnnyMast> F5 produest a new post
[12:17] <raphink> hehe
[12:17] <raphink> yes
[12:17] <JohnnyMast> if ur monitoring ur posts
[12:17] <raphink> exactly
[12:17] <raphink> so it needs to be GET
[12:17] <JohnnyMast> we both had the same :)
[12:18] <raphink> but sistpoty is not around
[12:18] <raphink> JohnnyMast: all the time....
[12:18] <raphink> I always post twice because of this
[12:18] <JohnnyMast> raphink speaking of revu
[12:18] <raphink> I post a comment and watch the evolution of the package
[12:18] <JohnnyMast> there is one othe bug
[12:18] <raphink> JohnnyMast: hehe
[12:18] <raphink> what?
[12:18] <JohnnyMast> a typo
[12:18] <raphink> where?
[12:18] <JohnnyMast> for example
[12:19] <JohnnyMast> Package was uploaded from: anthony.mercatante@laposte.net
[12:19] <JohnnyMast> its uploaded BY
[12:19] <raphink> oh in REVU you mean
[12:19] <raphink> yes
[12:19] <raphink> we ought to collect all this for sistpoty
[12:19] <JohnnyMast> well revu to mailing
[12:19] <raphink> I filed bugs aswell
[12:19] <raphink> about the fact that packagers can advocate their uploads
[12:20] <raphink> and that index.* files are interpreted by apache which is not nice and could be avoided
[12:20] <JohnnyMast> i have read the revu2 TODO
[12:20] <JohnnyMast> and thats in there already
[12:21] <raphink> good :)
[12:21] <raphink> well the GET is really a must
[12:22] <JohnnyMast> yeah man :)
[12:22] <raphink> :)
[12:22] <raphink> I love open-source because often you don't have issues, you have solutions :)
[12:23] <raphink> with proprietary software, you just have bugs
[12:23] <raphink> with open-source, you have fixes :)
[12:23] <JohnnyMast> yes you got that right
[12:23] <raphink> and you can discuss with with guys about why it doesn't work
[12:23] <JohnnyMast> not to mention mad ppl who use the software
[12:23] <raphink> and how to fix it
[12:23] <raphink> yes
[12:23] <raphink> well there are mad people in open-source aswell
[12:24] <raphink> but you can just tell them that if they're not happy
[12:24] <slomo_> humans are mad by definition ;)
[12:24] <raphink> they're
[12:24] <raphink> 1) free to not use it
[12:24] <raphink> 2) happily invited to fix
[12:24] <JohnnyMast> well they are just A) twsted or B) blackhat
[12:24] <JohnnyMast> i had a lot of B)
[12:24] <JohnnyMast> lot of exposers on my prev devel
[12:24] <raphink> hehe
[12:25] <raphink> yes
[12:25] <JohnnyMast> those are not our kind of ppl
[12:25] <JohnnyMast> they pic a bug and try every thing to make fun of the author
[12:25] <JohnnyMast> and dont contact him
[12:25] <raphink> patch to get all levels in Prince of Persia on Macintosh
[12:25] <JohnnyMast> well yes they do but only when they made fun of him
[12:27] <raphink> mhm
[12:27] <raphink> well I'd reckon that blackhats can be very good hackers
[12:28] <raphink> I remember having had to hack in assembly 68k
[12:28] <raphink> a compiled program
[12:28] <raphink> that's harder than hacking bash, perl or python
[12:28] <raphink> ;)
[12:28] <raphink> so when blackhats turn good eventually
[12:28] <raphink> it's a great opportunity for us ;)
[12:29] <JohnnyMast> raphink you dont have to be blackhat for that
[12:29] <JohnnyMast> a 2600 hacker is white like kevin
[12:30] <JohnnyMast> well
[12:30] <JohnnyMast> no not kevin he was black
[12:30] <raphink> lol
[12:30] <JohnnyMast> but
[12:30] <JohnnyMast> hacking a cellphone is easy enough for every one
[12:30] <raphink> indeed
[12:30] <raphink> or most small points cards they give when you buy fuel
[12:31] <JohnnyMast> im hacking as well atm
[12:31] <JohnnyMast> as in reverce engeneering
[12:31] <JohnnyMast> for ubuntu
[12:32] <JohnnyMast> a new project im trying to start
[12:32] <raphink> oh nice
[12:32] <raphink> what is that?
[12:32] <JohnnyMast> the sony net hd walkman
[12:32] <JohnnyMast> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnnyMast/snwhd-1
[12:32] <raphink> ooo
[12:33] <raphink> sony :(
[12:33] <JohnnyMast> ipod bleg
[12:33] <JohnnyMast> better sony then an ipod
[12:33] <raphink> hmm maybe
[12:33] <JohnnyMast> besides ipod is nothing new but soo wanted
[12:33] <JohnnyMast> i dont get it
[12:33] <Hieronymus> just buy an ogg vorbis player
[12:34] <raphink> yes
[12:34] <Hieronymus> http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers
[12:34] <raphink> iriver for example
[12:34] <slomo_> for example some iriver player ;)
[12:34] <raphink> or samsung
[12:34] <raphink> yes
[12:34] <raphink> kio-iriver powa :)
[12:34] <JohnnyMast> you will be happy when i hack the damm device
[12:34] <slomo_> what for? ;) mount them as normal ums device
[12:35] <JohnnyMast> to me ?
[12:36] <JohnnyMast> slomo_ ??
[12:36] <raphink> JohnnyMast: no
[12:36] <raphink> JohnnyMast: for iriver
[12:36] <JohnnyMast> ok
[12:36] <raphink> no need for kio
[12:36] <slomo_> JohnnyMast: ?
[12:36] <JohnnyMast> slomo_ ?
[12:36] <slomo_> confusion  :P
[12:37] <JohnnyMast> lol yeah well drop it :p
[12:37] <raphink> JohnnyMast: !
[12:37] <raphink> slomo_: !
[12:37] <JohnnyMast> raphink ?
[12:37] <JohnnyMast> :p
[12:39] <JohnnyMast> im gonna play call of duty 2 in a few
[12:40] <raphink> :)
[12:40] <raphink> here is call of dirty
[12:40] <raphink> but I'm too tired to clean
[12:40] <JohnnyMast> any one intested playing over a vpn once (hence pirate software)
[12:40] <raphink> no
[12:40] <JohnnyMast> i cant use my key on public servers
[12:41] <raphink> I'd rather play wesnoth
[12:41] <JohnnyMast> wesnoth whats htat?
[12:41] <JohnnyMast> also a war game ?
[12:41] <Hieronymus> JohnnyMast: fantasy turn-based RPG
[12:42] <JohnnyMast> like final fantacy ?
[12:42] <JohnnyMast> ooh rpg
[12:44] <JohnnyMast> ok guys the ttb package is updated have fun my fingers are itching to kill some germans
[12:44] <JohnnyMast> i mean ww2 germans
[12:45] <JohnnyMast> the bad
[12:46] <raphink> yeah yeahj
[12:46] <raphink> Hieronymus: do you play wesnoth?
[12:47] <JohnnyMast_AFK> sleep well raphink and all the others
[12:47] <raphink> thanks
[12:48] <seth_k|lappy> you give really good comments on REVU packages, raphink :)
[12:48] <raphink> thanks seth_k|lappy I do my best
[12:48] <raphink> and I'm often wrong
[12:48] <seth_k|lappy> hehe
[12:49] <seth_k|lappy> do you have time to help me know how to solve one?
[12:49] <seth_k|lappy> (of your comments)
[12:49] <raphink> well as I'm eating maybe
[12:49] <raphink> but after that I'll go to bed
[12:49] <seth_k|lappy> haha
[12:49] <raphink> cause I have to wake up in 5 hours and drive
[12:49] <seth_k|lappy> no worries, some other time
[12:49] <Hieronymus> raphink: sometimes
[12:49] <raphink> that's terrible
[12:49] <raphink> Hieronymus: ok :)
[12:52] <seth_k|lappy> have a safe drive raphink, and I will ping you about it some other time :)
[12:52] <raphink> seth_k|lappy: if you have just a few questions about what I mean or so
[12:52] <raphink> I can explain now
[12:53] <seth_k|lappy> well, with kat http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1177 I know how to handle all the comments except cleaning those Makefiles. I don't know how to do that.
[12:53] <raphink> it's not the easier part
[12:53] <raphink> what I'd suggest
[12:53] <raphink> is to remove them in the clean rule in debian/rules
[12:53] <raphink> with rm -f series
[12:54] <raphink> then try to build twice
[12:54] <raphink> to check if removing these files at clean doesn't affect build
[12:54] <raphink> (if they are generated each time it's ok)
[12:54] <raphink> if they aren't generated, then you need to call automake/autoconf manually
[12:55] <raphink> either by using the DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_X flags (didn't work for me)
[12:55] <raphink> or by restoring the makefiles running a make -f Makefile.cvs
[12:55] <seth_k|lappy> okay, well I used this to remove them: find . -name "Automake.in" -exec rm {} \;
[12:55] <raphink> so $(MAKE) -f Makefile.cvs to have it clean in debian/rules
[12:55] <raphink> could be fine aswell seth_k|lappy
[12:56] <raphink> the point is that once you have added the clean rule to remove them
[12:56] <raphink> you should check
[12:56] <raphink> 1) if the pb is solved :
[12:56] <raphink> run debuild && debuild -S -sa
[12:56] <raphink> and check the diff for files outside debian/
[12:56] <seth_k|lappy> right
[12:56] <raphink> 2) if the package builds twice (debuild without arguments)
[12:56] <raphink> to be sure it doesn't remove files that cannot be regenerated
[12:57] <raphink> or that would have to be regenerated manually
[12:57] <raphink> in knmap, I had to add a pre-build rule in debian/rules
[12:57] <raphink> to regenerate them
[12:57] <raphink> it that enough clues to get to work ? ;)
[12:58] <raphink> hi crimsun
[12:58] <seth_k|lappy> hehe, I think so :) and I'm sure someone will help me if I can't get something
[12:58] <seth_k|lappy> thanks again raphink
[12:59] <crimsun> hi raphink
[12:59] <crimsun> wow, xchat-gnome kicks the junk out of xchat
[12:59] <raphink> you're welcome seth_k|lappy
[12:59] <raphink> ;)
[01:00] <raphink> when do they release xchat-kde ?
[01:00] <crimsun> dunno ;)
[01:00] <raphink> hehe
[01:01] <raphink> crimsun: do you have some time to look at one or two packages?
[01:02] <crimsun> raphink: I will later tonight, heading out
[01:02] <raphink> ok
[01:02] <raphink> shall I leave you some urls ?
[01:03] <raphink> yop Tonio_
[01:03] <crimsun> raphink: just say them here and I'll check the irclog
[01:03] <raphink> ok
[01:03] <crimsun> cya later
[01:03] <raphink> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1105
[01:03] <raphink> and
[01:04] <raphink> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1209
[01:04] <raphink> :)
[01:04] <crimsun> ok.
[01:05] <Genosse_Darklord> Hi, any maintainer for the bzflag package in ubuntu here?
[01:06] <Genosse_Darklord> or does anyone know, how to report a bug in this package?
[01:06] <raphink> hi Genosse_Darklord && Amaranth
[01:06] <raphink> Genosse_Darklord: malone
[01:06] <Hieronymus> Genosse_Darklord: http://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu
[01:06] <raphink> http://launchpad.net/malone
[01:06] <Amaranth> hey
[01:06] <Amaranth> Hieronymus: Is that your last name?
[01:07] <Hieronymus> Genosse_Darklord: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzflag/+filebug
[01:07] <Hieronymus> Amaranth: what? Hieronymus ? No
[01:07] <Amaranth> i know someone with that last name
[01:07] <Hieronymus> My first name is Jeroen, but Jeroen Dekkers already registered that..
[01:09] <hub> hi
[01:09] <hub> who is daemon@poleboy.de
[01:11] <slomo_> sistpoty
[01:11] <raphink> and he's not only
[01:11] <raphink> online
[01:11] <raphink> well not here at least
[01:12] <hub> because he left some comment on a package on REVU, and one of them, I have doubts.
[01:12] <raphink> ok guys
[01:13] <raphink> good night
[01:13] <raphink> I'm going
[01:13] <Hieronymus> good morning!
[01:13] <Genosse_Darklord> later
[01:13] <hub> slomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=840 <- the comment about the -dbg content that he did
[01:15] <slomo_> hub: the /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.0 should be /usr/lib/libiptcdata.so.0.3.0
[01:15] <slomo_> afaik
[01:15] <slomo_> but better read about this in the policy
[01:17] <hub> slomo: I'll read the policy, but it is a debug library, and the other debug library do that AFAIK
[01:17] <hub> slomo_: I just check the other packaged. I'll re-read the policy anyway
[01:20] <slomo_> anyway... gn8 everybody :)
[03:11] <seth_k|lappy> when using the DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_blah variable in debian/rules, how can I install two manpages? (the .deb contains two binaries)
[03:13] <crimsun> that looks like cdbs
[03:13] <crimsun> normally with vanilla debhelper, you'd just pass the man pages as parameters to the dh_installman call in debian/rules
[03:14] <crimsun> otherwise you can use debian/package.manpages
[03:15] <seth_k|lappy> right, it's cdbs
[03:16] <seth_k|lappy> yeah, this is a verrrry cdbs'd package; none of the dh_* calls are there
[03:32] <zakame> hi all!
[03:32] <crimsun> re zak
[03:33] <jdong> greetings
[03:33] <zakame> hi crimsun
[03:33] <zakame> hi jdong
[04:29] <seth_k|lappy> is there anyone awake right now with access to tiber? One of my uploads failed in the middle, and now REVU is choking when I try to re-upload. And dcut'ing a .commands file apparently isn't working.
[04:36] <crimsun> zakame: no need to proxy requests to elmo. In fact, he becomes rather displeased. Just ask for them.
[04:36] <zakame> crimsun: oh, k. Will keep that in mind then ;)
[04:37] <zakame> gtg, lunch :D
[04:37] <crimsun> :)
[04:38] <zakame> thanks again crimsun :)
[04:38] <crimsun> no sweat :)
[05:01] <Sepheebear> what configfile is responsible for giving the values of distribution?
[05:02] <Sepheebear> when i edit a changelog, vi shows red if i put in "dapper" as the distribution
[05:03] <Sepheebear> but if i put in "breezy" or "unstable" its fine
[05:23] <minghua> Sepheebear: I believe you just need a newer version (the one in dapper, for example) of vim
[05:23] <minghua> Sepheebear: vim (1:6.4-001+2ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low ... * Add 'dapper' to the list of supported distribution keywords.
[05:25] <Sepheebear> ahh i wanna know where was that change was made, there has to be a config somewhere
[05:26] <Sepheebear> but thanks at least now i know im looking at vim
[05:39] <raphink> seth_k|lappy: you need to use dput -f or remove the .upload
[05:40] <seth_k|lappy> raphink, I tried dput -f, no go
[05:41] <raphink> did you try removing the .upload or renaming it?
[05:41] <seth_k|lappy> how would I do that? I tried using dcut, but tiber doesn't appear to be set up to handle .commands
[05:43] <seth_k|lappy> raphink, I get: Uploading via ftp kat_0.6.4-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of kat_0.6.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
[05:43] <seth_k|lappy> because my connection dropped mid-upload :P
[05:53] <raphink> see with sistpoty about that when he's online seth_k|lappy
[05:53] <seth_k|lappy> yeah, was what I planned. siretart though, isn't it?
[05:53] <raphink> oh whoever ;)
[05:53] <raphink> not me though ;)
[05:54] <raphink> siretart would be able to help, too
[05:54] <raphink> and dholbach aswell I believe
[05:54] <seth_k|lappy> go on, ping them all why don't you :P
[05:54] <seth_k|lappy> hehe
[05:55] <raphink> but I think they're all europeans (as I am)
[05:55] <raphink> and it's not really hacking time here ;)
[05:56] <raphink> (as far as hacking time could be held at 6 AM)
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> ah well
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> I did fix all your comments on kat raphink :)
[05:56] <seth_k|lappy> so it should be good to go
[05:56] <raphink> ok that's good :)
[05:57] <raphink> I'll have a look when I'm back
[05:57] <raphink> in two days that is ;)
[05:58] <raphink> unless you get it advocated before that
[06:00] <raphink> haha
[06:00] <raphink> well comments are not here as sanctions
[06:00] <raphink> we don't want just good packages in ubuntu
[06:00] <raphink> we want great ones ;)
[06:01] <raphink> the better packages leave REVU
[06:01] <raphink> and better packages get to NEW
[06:01] <raphink> the better packages get in universe
[06:01] <raphink> ;)
[06:12] <raphink> I'm gone
[06:12] <raphink> bye guys
[06:47] <crimsun> 'night, back later.
[07:11] <Sepheebear> anywhere know of a nice bzr how-to?
[07:13] <ajmitch> Sepheebear: on bazaar.canonical.com ?
[07:14] <Sepheebear> thanks ajmitch coudnt find one on the wiki
[07:14] <ajmitch> hm
[07:14] <ajmitch> there ought to be at least 1 or 2 good tutorials on there
[07:14] <ajmitch> last I looked there were
[07:16] <Sepheebear> i was doing a title search
[07:17] <ajmitch> http://bazaar.canonical.com/IntroductionToBzr is a start
[07:17] <ajmitch> which I found on http://bazaar.canonical.com/BzrDocumentation
[07:52] <ajmitch> sigh, this box has rebooted about 5 times in the last 30 min
[07:53] <ajmitch> damn overheating :(
[08:11] <lifeless> heh
[08:11] <jsgotangco> don't abuse it!
[08:12] <lifeless> here, have my spare heat
[08:12] <lifeless> we have tonnes
[08:15] <ajmitch> no no, I've got more than enough heat for this computer
[08:23] <jsgotangco> ciao
[10:51] <\sh> moins
[11:56] <jpatrick> any MOTUs around?
[11:59] <ajmitch> maybe
[12:00] <jpatrick> ajmitch: I need one more person to look @ http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1214
[12:06] <ajmitch> the 'maybe' being that it's midnight here :)
[12:11] <StevenK> Heh
[12:11] <StevenK> ajmitch: How can I find out who is to blame for a sync?
[12:11] <StevenK> wnn6-sdk 1.0.0-13 was synced, and it had no hope in high hell of building, but it was synced anyway.
[12:27] (StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) By your reasoning I shouldn't even merge xemacs since emacs exists.
[12:27] (StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) Mithrandir: You know that argument is crap, but you still play the tune.
[12:28] (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) StevenK: sorry, I'm bored. :-)
[12:28] (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) and angry
[12:28] (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-motu) I should just go an play ET or something
[12:28] <StevenK> ET?
[12:29] <StevenK> I'd play the PS2, but my wife and mother-in-law are watching a DVD.
[12:30] <Mithrandir> enemy territory.
[12:30] <StevenK> Ahhh
[01:29] <thierry> I need to package something that uses ruby to build with stuff like "ruby install.rb config", cdbs can't help me there right?
[01:43] <thierry> Kyral : I need to package something that uses ruby to build with stuff like "ruby install.rb config", cdbs can't help me there right?
[02:43] <azeem> lifeless: do we really need debhelper (>= 5) for opensync?  It breaks building for breezy
[02:45] <lifeless> azeem: the -dbg support
[02:45] <lifeless> azeem: how does it break on breezy?
[02:46] <slomo> breezy has only debhelper 4
[02:46] <lifeless> meh.
[02:46] <lifeless> slomo: you running breezy ?
[02:47] <slomo> no
[02:47] <lifeless> azeem: are you?
[02:47] <azeem> yes
[02:47] <lifeless> can you look at man debhelper
[02:48] <azeem> I'll just backport it
[02:48] <lifeless> see if it has compat level 5?
[02:48] <azeem> btw, I think we need a Build-Depend on libtool
[02:48] <lifeless> if it does, we can reduce the dependency
[02:48] <lifeless> yes, we do
[02:48] <azeem> it builds fine if I just loosen the Build-Depends
[02:48] <azeem> let me check the -dbg package
[02:49] <azeem> well, there are files in /usr/lib/debug
[02:49] <lifeless> ok
[02:49] <lifeless> make it the debhelper you have or greater then ;0
[02:50] <azeem> >= 4.9.0 might be fine, according to the changelog
[02:51] <lifeless> not much point installing .la files for the plugins huh
[02:51] <azeem> right
[02:52] <azeem> I started packaging as well, btw
[02:52] <lifeless> cool
[02:53] <lifeless> I'm doing irmc at the moment
[02:53] <azeem> I did evo, palm, file and irmc so far
[02:53] <lifeless> oh, doh
[02:54] <azeem> and multisync0.90
[02:54] <lifeless> where are your packages? I want the file, evo & irmc ones :)
[02:54] <seth_k|lappy> siretart, are you about? I have a half-uploaded file that is borking my revu upload that I need deleted :)
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy> siretart, never mind, looks like somebody already handled it
[02:55] <azeem> lifeless: I can upload the source package somewhere, I'm currently rebuilding against breezy to test
[02:55] <siretart> seth_k|lappy: I did that earlier today, there is a kat upload currently in incoming
[02:55] <lifeless> azeem: yes please!
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy> siretart, thank you, sorry about that :)
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy> reuploading now and it's working fine
[02:56] <siretart> seth_k|lappy: the ftp server config is shit, I know. perhaps I should use something else than vs-ftpd
[02:56] <seth_k|lappy> hehe
[03:02] <azeem> lifeless: so I wonder what to do with the plugins WRT package deps
[03:02] <azeem> lifeless: how about libopensync0 Recommends them all, and opensync also gets an empty meta-package libopensync-plugin-all, which Depends: on all?
[03:03] <lifeless> azeem: I'm really not sure either
[03:10] <azeem> ok, let's see how this opensync stuff works
[03:13] <lifeless> azeem: package names
[03:13] <lifeless> what do you think of opensync-plugin-* rather than libopensync-plugin-*
[03:13] <lifeless> (they dont provide directly usable libraries themselves)
[03:14] <azeem> sounds good
[03:15] <lifeless> are you publish bzr branches of these ?
[03:19] <lifeless> ok
[03:19] <lifeless> msynctool --listplugins
[03:19] <lifeless> Available plugins:
[03:19] <lifeless> file-sync
[03:19] <lifeless> azeem: yay
[03:19] <azeem> well, I don't get the GUI to work
[03:19] <azeem> opening evo2-sync plugin
[03:19] <azeem> Unable to find MSyncPlugin (evo2-sync)!!!
[03:19] <lifeless> mmm
[03:19] <lifeless> is that its gui plugin
[03:20] <lifeless> or the opensync plugin?
[03:20] <lifeless> (it looks like there are parallel plugins, one for the gui one for the engine
[03:20] <azeem> hrm
[03:21] <azeem> wow, the multisync-0.90 tarball includes object files
[03:21] <lifeless> muahha
[03:21] <lifeless> thats why I go from svn :)
[03:21] <lifeless> much cleaner
[03:22] <lifeless> oh eek
[03:22] <lifeless> does cdbs do vpath builds and warnings on uninstalled files?
[03:23] <azeem> vpath == build-out-of-srcdir?
[03:23] <azeem> then yes
[03:23] <lifeless> yes
[03:23] <azeem> well, not by default
[03:25] <lifeless> would you mind if we don't use cdbs ? It still feels far too magic to me
[03:25] <lifeless> completely up to you, just asking
[03:26] <azeem> haha, msynctool --configure S55 1 drops me in vi
[03:27] <azeem> and presents some XML
[03:27] <lifeless> yeah
[03:27] <azeem> lifeless: sure
[03:27] <lifeless> low-level :)
[03:29] <azeem> hrm msynctool --sync segfaults
[03:29] <lifeless> garh
[03:30] <lifeless> ok, I have what looks roughly sane for a irmc w/o cdbs
[03:31] <azeem> ok, I'll snatch your rules, and update the other plugins with it
[03:32] <lifeless> http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18-debian-dir/
[03:32] <lifeless> http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18/ <- the upstream I exported the tarball from
[03:33] <lifeless> http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/plugin-irmc-0.18-debian/ the debian dir itself
[03:33] <lifeless> but give me a minute, I'll upload the literal files
[03:34] <lifeless> god bless configure-in-diffs
[03:35] <lifeless> http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/opensync/packages/
[03:35] <azeem> what did you have to change in configure.in?
[03:35] <lifeless> in this case nothing, but svn does not have configure
[03:35] <azeem> oh, ok.  I used their tarballs
[03:36] <lifeless> (but it also does not have .o files :))
[03:36] <azeem> ok, I need to go do some christmas shopping now
[03:36] <azeem> laters
[03:36] <lifeless> ok
[03:37] <lifeless> I'll see if the walkthrough works without segfaulting for me
[03:38] <lifeless> works for me
[03:38] <lifeless> msynctool --sync filefile
[03:38] <lifeless> Synchronizing group "filefile"
[03:38] <lifeless> Member 1 of type file-sync had an error while connecting: Unable to open directory /tmp/filefile
[03:38] <lifeless> Member 2 of type file-sync had an error while connecting: Unable to open directory /tmp/filefile2
[03:38] <lifeless> All clients have disconnected
[03:38] <lifeless> The sync failed: Unable to connect one of the members
[03:38] <lifeless> Error synchronizing: Unable to connect one of the members
[03:38] <lifeless> and works with the dirs existing
[03:39] <azeem> could well be irmc, I didn't change the configuration
[03:40] <lifeless> ok
[03:40] <lifeless> I'll try irmc now
[03:41] <lifeless> did you set irname ?
[03:50] <lifeless> azeem: it ran
[03:50] <lifeless> azeem: no segfault.
[03:50] <lifeless> I had configured the plugin
[04:04] <lifeless> night all
[04:05] <lifeless> irmc is not crashing but not working
[04:05] <lifeless> I think I need the gui to configur eit
[04:13] <ogra> hmm, i would so like to know why willow needs python-profiler ...
[04:13] <ogra> isnt a profiler only used for debugging ?
[04:33] <siretart> ogra: what is willow?
[04:33] <ogra> the coolest proxy i know ...
[04:34] <ogra> small, quick and written in python ...
[04:34] <Kyral> Morning
[04:34] <ogra> it uses bayesian filtering instead of urllists, so no maintenance needed, its self learning
[04:35] <ogra> i'D love to include it in main for edubuntu. but it depends on python-profiler and i dont know why ...
[06:19] <JohnnyMast> hi TheMuso
[06:32] <JohnnyMast> TheMuso would you like to review ttb ?
[07:26] <shawarma> wtf.... I have start times in my ps output that are 35 in the future.
[07:29] <shawarma> wow, it's quiet in here today.
[07:52] <JohnnyMast> is every one out in the pub or something ?
[07:57] <LaserJock> JohnnyMast: getting ready for Christmas vacation ;-)
[07:58] <JohnnyMast> wow cool can i join you ?
[07:59] <LaserJock> not unless you come to NV, USA
[08:00] <JohnnyMast> if you pay my trip :p
[08:00] <JohnnyMast> then ile sign your key
[08:02] <LaserJock> hmm, that almost sounds tempting ;-) but no I gotta pay for my trip so I'll be broke
[08:06] <JohnnyMast> hehe
[08:16] <JohnnyMast> any reviewer alive ?
[08:17] <Treenaks> no, they all dropped dead when they saw your package
[08:17] <JohnnyMast> hehe
[08:20] <JohnnyMast> i saw you on the fosdem list
[08:20] <JohnnyMast> just a sec ago
[08:22] <Gloubiboulga> hello
[08:22] <JohnnyMast> hi Gloubiboulga
[08:23] <JohnnyMast> everything okey ?
[08:24] <Gloubiboulga> well... I'll say yes :)
[08:26] <JohnnyMast> :)
[08:26] <JohnnyMast> good to hear
[08:31] <Gloubiboulga> hum, dpkg-buildpackage failed!...
[08:31] <Gloubiboulga> I should have wait a little before answering you
[08:32] <JohnnyMast> whats the building problem ?
[08:33] <Gloubiboulga> it's a dpkg-source problem: unrepresentable changes to source
[08:33] <Gloubiboulga> I was running debuils -S -sa, after the .deb build
[08:33] <Gloubiboulga> debuild*
[08:34] <JohnnyMast> aaah
[08:34] <JohnnyMast> well then you added of deleted files
[08:34] <JohnnyMast> they are mostly warnings
[08:35] <Gloubiboulga> I've got several warnings like : dpkg-source: cannot represent change to obj/linux/main_widget.o: binary file contents changed
[08:36] <Hieronymus> Gloubiboulga: does make clean work correctly?
[08:36] <JohnnyMast> or maybe you did sudo debuild before
[08:37] <Gloubiboulga> nop...
[08:37] <Gloubiboulga> I have just seen why
[08:37] <JohnnyMast> so you dont have permissions to get the changes working
[08:37] <JohnnyMast> hmmm
[08:37] <JohnnyMast> can you upload a buildlog in paste bin for us ?
[08:37] <Gloubiboulga> I just have to change the order of 2 commands I think
[08:39] <Gloubiboulga> I remove Makefile before running `make clean` in debian/rules
[08:39] <Gloubiboulga> it's not a good idea ;)
[08:39] <JohnnyMast> wait
[08:39] <JohnnyMast> why dont you call distclean in clean ?
[08:39] <JohnnyMast> instead of make clean ?
[08:40] <JohnnyMast> (if you had it that way)
[08:40] <Gloubiboulga> There's no rule in for makefile for distclean
[08:40] <JohnnyMast> hmm thats a shame
[08:40] <JohnnyMast> because that would work like a charm then only thing you had to remove where the stamps
[08:42] <Gloubiboulga> I'll ask upstream to add this
[08:42] <JohnnyMast> good good
[08:43] <Gloubiboulga> it works fine now
[08:44] <JohnnyMast> good news to hear :)
[08:44] <Gloubiboulga> JohnnyMast, Hieronymus, thanks for your help
[08:44] <JohnnyMast> Gloubiboulga come over when ever you like
[08:44] <Gloubiboulga> I will :)
[08:44] <JohnnyMast> oki
[08:45] <Gloubiboulga> raphink helped me a lot these days on #ubuntu-fr
[08:45] <Gloubiboulga> I really like the ubuntu spirit :D
[08:46] <JohnnyMast> yes its a comunity, you dont see that any else where in an os
[08:46] <JohnnyMast> well maybe firefly bsd
[08:47] <JohnnyMast> my builder is bitching as well
[08:48] <JohnnyMast> last time i had to patch setup.py
[08:52] <Gloubiboulga> I'm uploading the source package on REVU
[08:52] <JohnnyMast> awsome what are you packing ?
[08:52] <Gloubiboulga> jargoninformatique
[08:52] <Gloubiboulga> it's a french dictionary
[08:52] <JohnnyMast> perl ?
[08:53] <Gloubiboulga> nop
[08:53] <Gloubiboulga> c++
[08:53] <JohnnyMast> aaah right
[08:54] <JohnnyMast> in doing a c++ package now as well
[08:56] <JohnnyMast> on kryptor a package by my own team. wich is already in fedora and gentoo
[08:57] <Gloubiboulga> congratulations :)
[08:57] <JohnnyMast> Gloubiboulga thanks very much
[09:03] <JohnnyMast> i cant access you package dir
[09:04] <Gloubiboulga> same for me...
[09:04] <JohnnyMast> how was that before
[09:04] <JohnnyMast> was it always like this ?
[09:05] <Gloubiboulga> I don't really know...
[09:06] <Gloubiboulga> I'm sorry, I have to leave now...
[09:06] <JohnnyMast> thats okey have fun this weekend
[09:06] <Gloubiboulga> Thanks :)
[09:06] <JohnnyMast> :)
[09:09] <JohnnyMast> thats strange ... pbuilder cant find libx11-dev when downloading deps
[09:11] <seth_k|lappy> sudo pbuilder update
[09:11] <JohnnyMast> did that already, its fixed now
[09:11] <JohnnyMast> but after it was download and installed i get this
[09:11] <JohnnyMast> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:40] <minghua> crimsun: ping
[10:41] <crimsun> minghua: pong
[10:42] <minghua> crimsun: just to give you an update on the rebuild status (libstdc++ transition) of scim related packages
[10:42] <crimsun> ok
[10:42] <minghua> crimsun: scim-tables was synced from unstable today
[10:43] <minghua> scim-pinyin and scim-uim should have new debian upload in two weeks
[10:43] <eruin> \sh_away, you're in dire need of new blogging software ;)
[10:44] <crimsun> minghua: ok
[10:44] <minghua> so if there is no urgent requests, the packages that needs rebuild uploads should be -anthy, -canna, -chewing, -prime, -skk and mlterm
[10:44] <sistpoty> hi folks
[10:44] <minghua> hi sistpoty
[10:45] <crimsun> minghua: just strictly rebuilds and no other changes?
[10:46] <minghua> crimsun: yes, because of the libstdc++ allocator c2->c2a transition
[10:46] <minghua> crimsun: actually I don't know if MOTUs accepts such rebuild requests now
[10:47] <crimsun> minghua: ok, do you want to provide debdiffs? They're fairly straight forward; otherwise I'll process them tonight
[10:47] <crimsun> yeah, we just bump the version and reupload
[10:47] <sistpoty> what packages are you talking about?
[10:47] <minghua> crimsun: what about I providing debdiffs and you help upload them all (including -pinyin and -uim)?
[10:47] <crimsun> minghua: sure
[10:47] <minghua> crimsun: I would like to have scim stuff all working in dapper
[10:48] <crimsun> sistpoty: scim-* in dapper being rebuilt
[10:48] <minghua> siretart: scim related stuff, input methods
[10:48] <sistpoty> ah, ok...
[10:48] <minghua> crimsun: I use malone to paste debdiffs, right?
[10:49] <crimsun> minghua: yep
[10:54] <sistpoty> merge list updated once again... 95->119 unassigned merges
[10:55] <crimsun> sigh
[10:55] <crimsun> I was proud of knocking it under 100, too. Gee thanks. ;)
[10:55] <sistpoty> sorry crimsun ;)
[10:58] <Hieronymus> If I want to be able to upload a packge to REVU, I e-mail keyring@tiber.tauware.de with a signed e-mail, right?
[10:58] <Hieronymus> *package
[10:59] <JohnnyMast> Hieronymus you need to send ur key number
[10:59] <JohnnyMast> and upload your key to keyserver.ubuntu.com
[11:00] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: are you jeroen van splunder?
[11:01] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: yes
[11:01] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: didn't get my reply email?
[11:01] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: no
[11:01] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: I added you to revu's keyring, so you should be able to upload packages to revu
[11:02] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: thank you
[11:02] <sistpoty> np
[11:06] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: did you send it a long time ago?
[11:06] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: I sent it this afternoon
[11:07] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: to jeroen-91_at_home.nl
[11:07] <Hieronymus> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1232
[11:07] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: weird
[11:08] <sistpoty> what's weird? the package or that you didn't get the mail?
[11:09] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: I can resend it, if you want
[11:11] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: that I didn't get the mail
[11:11] <sistpoty> ah
[11:13] <\sh> moins
[11:13] <sistpoty> hi \sh
[11:16] <Kyral> yo
[11:16] <sistpoty> \sh: how exactly did you want revu's list to be resorted?
[11:17] <\sh> sistpoty: sorted by advocates and comments
[11:17] <sistpoty> first criteria #advocates and 2nd num of comments... for specific upload only or for all uploads referring to a sourcepackage?
[11:18] <\sh> sistpoty: I think of all uploads...so we can see on which package was worked more
[11:18] <sistpoty> ok
[11:19] <sistpoty> and should I distinguish between new packages and updates for sorting?
[11:19] <crimsun> personally, yes
[11:19] <\sh> oh the i386 buildds are somewhat screwed today?
[11:19] <\sh> sistpoty: would be cool
[11:19] <crimsun> \sh: appears so
[11:19] <\sh> sistpoty: so oldest package first :)
[11:20] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: "You don't have permission to access /revu1-incoming/bulldozer-0512171705/bulldozer_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes on this server."
[11:20] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: the changes is only useful for the procedure of updating
[11:21] <sistpoty> Hieronymus: and it shouldn't be accessible... e.g. I upload a source-package to revu, anyone could grab it and put it to ubuntu -> no access to changes
[11:22] <Hieronymus> sistpoty: but REVU links to these things
[11:22] <sistpoty> \sh: just that I got that right: 1st criteria: update/new... 2nd #advocates, 3rd #comments, 4th #age (fifo)
[11:22] <\sh> Hieronymus: only for informational purposes
[11:22] <\sh> sistpoty: yes..but advocates only on the latest upload :)
[11:23] <sistpoty> ok... /me will need a beer for this :)
[11:23] <\sh> sistpoty: lucky guy.../me had a half breakdown today
[11:23] <sistpoty> oh... what happened?
[11:24] <sistpoty> due to illness?
[11:26] <\sh> think so...
[11:27] <\sh> this morning after the guys from the heating system company left, I wanted to go out shopping...
[11:29] <\sh> And lucky I am, I went down the stairs in front of my flat, and on the last step I was a bit dizzy
[11:29] <sistpoty> oh... hope you'll recover soon, then
[11:30] <\sh> and felt on my back..directly on the stairs...lucky that I didn't bang my head
[11:30] <crimsun> hope you feel better soon, \sh
[11:30] <sistpoty> ouch
[11:30] <\sh> crimsun: I have to...I can't even focus sometimes...I really don't know what's up with me
[11:32] <ajmitch> hi
[11:33] <ajmitch> \sh: hm, doesn't sound good
[11:37] <\sh> ajmitch: i'm getting old and senile
[11:38] <ogra> ???
[11:38] <ogra> getting ?
[11:39] <ogra> ;)
[11:39] <\sh> ogra: thx :) I need that now :)
[11:39] <ogra> heh
[11:39] <\sh> btw...ntfs (win xp formatted) and linux amd64?
[11:39] <ogra> come on, we'Re the same age
[11:39] <\sh> why can't I mount my external HD?
[11:40] <\sh> ogra: yes...that's why I appreaciate your comment :)
[11:40] <crimsun> \sh: what does dmesg|tail say regarding the attempt?
[11:41] <\sh> crimsun: that it's mounted
[11:41] <\sh> crimsun: but reading is not possible input/output error
[11:41] <\sh> but it's readable with windows xp itself
[11:41] <ajmitch> \sh: don't worry, I made a major life change yesterday
[11:41] <ajmitch> gnome broke, so I'm using KDE
[11:41] <crimsun> sounds like the error I'm having with a usb cdrw
[11:42] <\sh> crimsun: well..same hd, diff. partition with reiserfs works like a charm :)
[11:43] <\sh> ajmitch: hehe..you see...sometimes a cycle of >6months is more useful :)
[11:43] <sistpoty> oh boy... the query for revu's list is 38 lines...
[11:43] <crimsun> \sh: I'm not sure if you can force a journal replay and fsck the NTFS partition, but that's what I'd try first
[11:43] <\sh> sistpoty: already normalized?
[11:44] <\sh> crimsun: but the filesystem is clean...I checked with windows XP on my toshiba here
[11:44] <sistpoty> \sh: what do you mean with normalized? the tables are normalized... that's just a sql statement
[11:45] <\sh> sistpoty: but 38lines....
[11:45] <\sh> that's a lot :)
[11:46] <sistpoty> it is... but it's only half of it actually since it's a union statement of needwork/good packages
[11:46] <\sh> crimsun: but i'm checking again with ntfsprogs
[11:47] <\sh> crimsun: hmm...how do I do a ntfs fsck on linux...
[11:50] <crimsun> \sh: not sure, never done it before
[11:51] <crimsun> ah, ntfsfix(8)
[11:52] <crimsun> well, it doesn't do everything in Linux per se
[11:52] <\sh> jepp
[11:52] <\sh> well..so I backup the drive tomorrow with windows xp
[11:52] <\sh> oergs
[11:52] <\sh> aka "I hate it"
[11:53] <\sh> oh and btw...the exorcism of emily rose --> watch it :)
[11:53] <ajmitch> there is a way to force a chkdsk in xp
[11:53] <ajmitch> \sh: yeah, I saw it a few weeks ago
[11:54] <ajmitch> I had to go to the console to see that there were ntfs errors
[11:54] <\sh> ajmitch: in xp yes..but not in linux :)
[11:54] <\sh> ajmitch: I have always problems with ntfs partitions from win xp prof.
[11:54] <minghua> ajmitch: how is gnome broken?
[11:54] <ajmitch> ntfs is always a problem
[11:54] <ajmitch> minghua: panel was hanging, etc
[11:55] <lifeless> azeem: around ?
[11:57] <crimsun> minghua: fwiw, I killed gdm before I joined, and everything seems to work here
[11:57] <\sh> ogra: btw...did you buy now a mac ?
[11:57] <ogra> nope, not yet
[11:57] <ogra> you ?
[11:57] <minghua> crimsun: Thanks.  I didn't upgrade panel stuff, so I think I am fine.
[11:58] <\sh> ogra: me? no...don't have the money :)
[11:59] <\sh> ogra: but there is an apple cube for 405 eur on ebay
[11:59] <ajmitch> minghua: mine hadn't been restarted since breezy or so
[11:59] <\sh> or ibook g4 for 441
[11:59] <ogra> dircet buy ?
[12:00] <ogra> *direct
[12:00] <ajmitch> minghua: and some of my troubles were also due to the computer having rebooted due to overheating ;)
[12:00] <lifeless> wooo
[12:00] <ajmitch> morning lifeless
[12:00] <lifeless> ola!
[12:00] <\sh> ogra: no
[12:01] <ogra> so how long to go for each one ?