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Chousukesome drivers exist already. I was just told this on -offtopic12:00
mfarquharyou're set to go12:00
{alejandro}puff for old laptops with the old airport cards it is fine since there are open source drivers12:00
Chousukeneed manual compiling though12:00
{alejandro}really12:00
{alejandro}huh12:00
{alejandro}honestly, on a mac, I would wanna install netbsd12:01
{alejandro}because that has binary compatibility with darwin12:01
{alejandro}if you wanted to you could hack the aqua interface overtop it12:01
{alejandro}it would take work but it is theoretically possible12:01
{alejandro}Chousuke where are these drivers you speak of12:02
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nickrudlilg, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html12:03
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lilgthanks12:03
Chousukealexissoft: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/12:03
Chousukeeh12:03
Chousuke{alejandro}: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ even12:03
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alexissoftChousuke, thanks, but i've no bcm43xx :)12:03
Chousukealexissoft: never mind :P12:04
nickrudlilg, the only difference really is instead of lilo, use grub-install12:04
puff{alejandro}: Thanks... I think I'm going to recommend that he dual-boot and install OSX and something else, and try both out.. mainly he just wants shell/emacs/grep and java development.12:04
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{alejandro}oh, dude12:04
{alejandro}mac os x has great java12:04
{alejandro}and bsd subsystem12:04
{alejandro}with emacs12:04
lilgnickrud thanks, the 2 hard drives are in compledly diffrent machines one laptop one desktop would it work?12:05
{alejandro}you can use x11 on it too12:05
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zpartais there anyway to get 2.6.13 kernel in ubuntu ?12:05
Seveasno12:05
bulioif I have a router12:05
zpartawithout the source that is12:05
nickrudlilg, well, if you can mount the laptop in the desktop it would be easier12:05
{alejandro}I would reccommend he try out osx on its own first puff12:05
bulioam I supposed to use pppoeconf?12:05
Jormundgandzparta: I think Dapper has it.12:05
nickrud*disk12:05
zpartadapper ?12:05
SeveasJormundgand, dapper has .1512:05
JormundgandAh.12:05
buliodapper drake12:05
zparta<-- new to ubuntu :)12:05
lilgnickrud, will try that12:06
nickrudlilg, but otherwise, I not the one with the answer on any networking stuff12:06
gleesondI just installed kde on my box that had the normal ubuntu on it.... I can seem to get the file browser to work... also I cant change the window boarder in the styles section because there is no place to..... can any one help?12:06
lilgits horrible because my dvd drive doesent work12:06
lilgwell it only reads the firs 10 meg of data :)12:06
{alejandro}gleesond, try control-center12:07
zpartawill i have to reinstall to get 2.6.13+ ?12:07
{alejandro}from the menu12:07
{alejandro}oh wait12:07
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gleesondI did but the functionality isn't there to change the boarder12:07
{alejandro}window decoration12:08
{alejandro}style12:08
{alejandro}those two are the ones you might wanna mess with12:08
puff{alejandro}: Yeah, basically I'm recommending that he try OSX, based on just his requirements... if he *wants* to experiement with linux as well as OSX, I'd recommend dual-booting (as long as it's possible to set it up with some sort of shared data partition).12:08
lilga screw it i will just have to buy a cd drive12:08
buliohow do I configure DHCP in ubuntu?12:08
gleesondthere is no window decoration menue12:08
puffYet once again, thanks to all for the valuable advice.12:08
gleesondthats the problem12:08
{alejandro}puff dual booting requires yaboot, which I have had some bad experiences with12:08
{alejandro}but try it12:08
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hendrix_hey12:08
nickrudlilg, sometimes throwing money at a problem works :)12:08
gleesondI installed the kubuntu desktop12:09
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buliohow do I configure DHCP in ubuntu?12:09
lilgnickrud: i figured that, if i installed any other distro i'd have the same problem12:09
lilgbulio: have you googled it?12:09
hendrix_i installed nessus with apt-get install nessus and it installed a bunch of other things.. now i want to uninstall but it only uninstalled "nesses" is there a easy way to uninstall everything that came with the nessus package???12:09
graymansometimes having minions with money is helpfull too12:09
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xulinhi !12:10
bulioyes12:10
hendrix_nesses=nessus12:10
lilgany results12:10
gleesondis konkorer the file browser? if so everytime I try to go to my dirs it opens nautilus12:10
xulini want to write with gnomebaker a 4.1Go file .. but it skip the file :/ too big :/ any solution ?12:10
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wimisn't konqueror only for kubuntu?12:10
{alejandro}gleesond are you using shortcuts12:10
{alejandro}gleesond gnome shortcuts use nautilus12:11
{alejandro}delete them12:11
hendrix_wim, u can use konq with any window manager.. just make sure u have the right libs12:11
gleesondsim links12:11
hendrix_k-libs or whatever they are called12:11
{alejandro}gleesond they are not true symlinks12:11
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hendrix_im guessing there is a gubuntu too?12:11
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graymangubuntu?12:11
wimubuntu is gubuntu12:11
graymanlolol12:11
{alejandro}gleesond they are really launchers taht say "nautilus (dir)"12:11
hendrix_:P12:11
graymannice name12:11
buliook, now how do I disable pppoeconf?12:12
hendrix_yeah, if u pay me u can use it too ;)12:12
gleesondbut I cant even get to / in konkorer12:12
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hendrix_keep the royalties comming my way please12:12
gleesondI type any path and it opens nautilus12:12
nickrudgleesond, are you sure you are running kde?12:13
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{alejandro}open file browser from the kdemenu12:13
{alejandro}or logout12:13
{alejandro}and in kdm or gdm pick a kde session12:13
{alejandro}that will make it work fo12:13
{alejandro}sho12:13
gleesondok I'll try12:13
pramzanyone good at configuring chrooted bind ?12:14
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hendrix_i installed nessus with apt-get install nessus and it installed a bunch of other things.. now i want to uninstall but it (apt-get uninstall nessus) only uninstalled "nessus" is there a easy way to uninstall everything that came with the nessus package???12:15
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xulin"mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /tmp/bigfile is too large - ignoring"12:16
xulincould somebody help me ! .. ^ :s12:16
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nickrudhendrix_, there's debfoster, it can do that. Better, next time use aptitude to install something like nessus, it will track those dependencies and remove them for you12:18
{alejandro}hendrix you can use synaptic and see the required packages if you right click12:18
{alejandro}(on nessus_12:18
{alejandro}and then remove those12:18
hendrix_i havent installed X.. only shell12:18
{alejandro}ah ok12:18
{alejandro}I am gonna go with nickrud then. aptitude for life12:19
nickrudhendrix_, aptitude can be run interactively, and will do as {alejandro} mentioned synaptic does.12:19
hendrix_ahaa ok then! :)12:19
nickrudas someone told me, synaptic has aptitude :)12:19
hendrix_but.. :) .. what am i looking for?12:19
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ardchoilleI am looking to buy an LCD panel monitor. Are there any brands I should steer clear of, or do they all work?12:20
{alejandro}nessus12:20
nickrudhendrix_, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide has a quick reference to aptitude. Experiment with that a bit.12:20
skonBy default the kdebase package is installed along with KDE apps, but does that mean I can log into KDE by default?12:20
{alejandro}ardchoille, I would look for features12:20
{alejandro}digital is becoming more popular these days12:21
ardchoilleah, good point12:21
hendrix_nessus isnt anywhere to be found there.. only things like lib-nessus.. :(12:23
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hendrix_a friend helped me another time, i went in to some kinda cache, and listed the dependencies there (with dpkg) and then uninstalled.. that worked.. he isnt home so i cant ask him..12:24
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nickrudhendrix_, nessus is there, for sure12:25
hendrix_nickrud, even if i uninstalled it?12:25
nickrudhendrix_, yes, it shows all packages, installed and uninstalled12:26
hendrix_this is what i did.. aptitude->search->nessus-> only libnessus12:26
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skon By default the kdebase package is installed along with KDE apps, but does that mean I can log into KDE by default?12:27
nickrudhendrix_, hit the \ key, it will go to the next package with nessus in the name12:27
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hendrix_im on a swedish keyboard.. and if i want backslask i have to press alt+"=" (without quotes).. so pressing backslash doesnt do anything for me.. ? :/12:29
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nickrudhendrix_, forward slash, but I have no idea where that would be on a swedish keyboard either12:30
lilgcan i get an external dvd rom drive to install linux on my hard drive?12:30
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hendrix_-> /=forward slash right???12:31
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DRK13JA12:31
hendrix_forward slash brings up the search box12:32
nickrudhendrix_, then, it's the other slash, sorry :)12:32
hendrix_hehe12:32
hendrix_and the other slash (backslash) doesnt do anything.. hmm..12:32
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kangpehhey12:32
kangpehhow do i remove gnome from my ubuntu install, i have grown fond of KDE lately o.o;12:33
kangpehafter i heard mark shuttleworth uses kde12:33
cmathesonkangpeh: aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop (or use synatpic or whatever)12:33
{alejandro}seep12:33
{alejandro}sheep12:33
hendrix_hmm.. now it did.. im sooos orry!!!!12:33
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nickrudhendrix_, then try l instead of forwardslash, and enter nessus. that will display only the packages with nessus in the name12:33
kangpehcmatheson:  will that destroy functionality for mad shit12:33
{alejandro}and install the kubuntu usplash12:33
kangpehthat i need12:33
kangpehcmatheson:  i.e., like evolution, gaim, and so forth.12:34
{alejandro}kangpeh possibly12:34
{alejandro}kangpeh you can remove the gnome desktop packages too12:34
kangpehcmatheson:  also how do i get korena input on my kde12:34
hendrix_ok nickrud, now i have what u told me.. nessus (greyd), nessus-plugins (green) and nessusd (green)12:34
cmathesonkangpeh: yeah, that will remove most of that stuff12:34
cmathesonkangpeh: i don't know what korena is12:34
kangpehhow do i remove just gnome, but not gtk12:34
{alejandro}kangpeh and nautilus and metacity12:34
kangpehkorean*12:34
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kangpehit is a language12:34
cmathesonkangpeh: well, you're going to need the gnome-libs for evolution and all that12:34
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kangpehi just dont all the clutter12:35
cmathesonkangpeh: but to get rid of a lot of that crap you're just going to have to go through one-by-one... just nautilus, gnome-panel, etc.12:35
kangpehin my kde menus12:35
kangpehaggh12:35
kangpeh:(12:35
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jahshuahey if i dl the install .iso file, will it partition my hd for me when i run it? im on xp right now12:35
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kakeihi,any one play Nexuiz?12:35
{alejandro}Kangpeh if you don't use aptitude to remove it ubuntu-desktop is an empty package12:35
cmatheson{alejandro}: i don't think he wants to remove ubuntu-desktop actually... he wants to keep a bunch of the apps12:36
{alejandro}right12:36
{alejandro}but he needs to remove that package12:36
cmatheson{alejandro}: oh ok yeah12:36
{alejandro}because otherwise he will wind up reinstalling them come update time12:36
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bulio|lapI need help with router12:36
dooglusjahshua: it will if there are absolutely no errors on your existing windows partition.12:36
kangpehmad confused yo12:36
kangpehim mad confused12:36
bulio|laplook12:36
bulio|lapI have a router12:36
jahshuawhats an example of an error12:37
{alejandro}ok kangpeh12:37
bulio|lapUbuntu----Ethernet----Router---Wireless---Laptop+other desktop12:37
{alejandro}do you know how gnome owrks12:37
dooglusjahshua: it's worth running "chkdsk/f" from windows first - that finds and fixes NTFS errors12:37
bulio|lapbefore, I would run pppoeconf, and it worked through the router12:37
bulio|lap<bulio|lap> but never recognized the network12:37
kakeiany one can explain to me why i'm getting only 11FPS / 12FPS on glxgears my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/46723912:37
nickrudhendrix_, mark all the nessus packages for removal  (hit the minus sign on each package)12:37
{alejandro}a good idea is to open synaptic and start removing gnome packages one by one but leaving the libraries and some of the apps12:37
jahshuado i run that in dos prompt ?12:37
dooglusjahshua: yes12:37
cmathesonkakei: could you paste the output from X too?12:37
kangpehalejandro12:38
kangpehahh12:38
hendrix_nickrud, ok and then press G?12:38
kangpehmad hard :(12:38
kangpehalejandro12:38
kangpehi wish there was an easier way12:38
kangpeh:/12:38
nickrudhendrix_, yes12:38
kangpehoh wellllz12:38
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{alejandro}kangpeh, I will make a list for you12:38
{alejandro}hold on12:38
dooglusjahshua: I wasted about a week trying to get the ubuntu installer to resize my NTFS partition.  it wouldn't do it, but wouldn't tell me why either.  turned out "chkdsk/f" was needed first.12:38
kakeicmatheson X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.12:39
kangpehaljenadro: yes sir12:39
cmathesonkakei: er, i mean post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:39
kakeihttp://pastebin.com/46725412:40
jahshuad:\documents and settings\owner>chkdsk/f the type of file system is ntfs. cannot lock current drive. chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process. would you like to schedule this volume to be checked next time the system restarts? yes/no ??12:40
jahshuathats what i got12:40
hendrix_nickrud, is there a way to se what was done.. do confirm?12:41
hendrix_*to12:41
{alejandro}kangpeh, do you need to get rid of gnome to save space12:42
nickrudhendrix_, you need to hit g twice: the first time brings up a view that shows what will be installed and uninstalled, the second g actually executes.12:42
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cmathesonkakei: hmm, everything looks ok... glxgears doesn't run crazy fast anymore like it used to (or at least it doesn't for me w/ my geforce4mx).  have you tried running anything a bit more substantail like games or xscreensaver-gl stuff? (they all work very smooth for me)12:42
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{alejandro}kangpeh never mind I have to go12:43
{alejandro}sorry12:43
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kakeicmatheson i have try to run Nexuiz but i get only 18FPS that's sad12:43
cmathesonkakei: hmm, that is weird.  if you type 'glxinfo | less' and read through that, what does it look like?12:44
cmathesonkakei: is DRI enabled?  are there many caveats?12:44
kakeihttp://pastebin.com/46725812:45
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cmathesonkakei: what about at the bottom where it lists your cards features and if they're slow or not12:46
hendrix_nickrud, ok.. selected the pkgs uninstalled.. a bunch of text passed by.. but i think something got broken (the webserver).. crap.. shouldnt do theese things so late12:46
kakeicmatheson which bottom?12:46
jahshuadooglus12:47
dooglusyo12:47
jahshua d:\documents and settings\owner>chkdsk/f the type of file system is ntfs. cannot lock current drive. chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process. would you like to schedule this volume to be checked next time the system restarts? yes/no ??12:47
jahshua[23:40]  <nesta> thats what i got12:47
dooglusjahshua: say yes12:47
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jahshuak12:47
dooglusjahshua: then reboot12:47
zpartawhat package do i need to install make-kpkg ?12:47
nickrudhendrix_, aptitude keeps a log of what it did in /var/log/aptitude, you can check there12:47
jahshuaok12:47
jahshuathen what will happen12:47
hendrix_ok thanks nickrud!12:47
dooglusit will check the disk and fix any errors12:47
waranI want Ubuntu 7 to be called "Breezy Butcher". How can I suggest this?12:48
cmathesonkakei: well generally when you run glxinfo at the bottom it usually it has a bunch of hex addresses and caveats and what not12:48
doogluswell - that's what it did for me12:48
nickrudhendrix_, I wouldn't have really recommended this, if that check wasn't there ;)12:48
jahshuaok12:48
dooglusjahshua: it's like a 'scandisk' but it works better.12:48
hendrix_nickrud, hehe12:48
jahshuabut it will check my d: drive yeh?12:48
jahshuamy c: drive only has 100mb space on it12:48
dooglusjahshua: I tried "scandisk" a few times, but it neither detected nor fixed the problem12:48
jahshuai reformatted awhile back12:48
roughtradershit I have to go to a stupid company holiday party tonight12:48
Dr_Williswaran,  I want Ubuntu7 to be called "CheckTheFAQFirst Ferret"12:48
jahshuaand i attempted to reformat12:48
jahshuaheh12:48
hendrix_can i paste to u what it did.. its about 20lines?12:48
roughtraderI hate these functions12:48
hendrix_nickrud12:48
kakeicmatheson which bottom? hehe12:48
nickrudzparta, kernel-package12:48
nickrudhendrix_,12:49
zpartaok12:49
dooglusjahshua: oh, I don't know.  you have NTFS partitions on both C: and D:?12:49
zpartathanks12:49
cmathesonkakei: is that all it outputs?12:49
jahshuai think so12:49
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waranDr_Willis: Isn't that a little bit too long?12:49
dooglusjahshua: try running "chkdsk /?" - it should show you the available options12:49
Dr_Williswaran,  but it would save soooo much time in here. :P12:49
dooglusjahshua: I guess you should be able to tell it to scan D:12:49
waranmhh12:49
rickestany easy way to boot a LiveCD directly into non-X console (w/o rebuilding the CD itself)?12:49
kakeicmatheson ernm no12:49
dooglusrickest: can't you just ctrl-alt-F1 ?12:50
Dr_Willisrickest,  you can get to the console with alt-ctrl-f1.. or theres a boot option you can give the live cd kernel to do that I belive.12:50
rickestdooglus, yes but it takes about five times longer to boot and usually I'm just trying to get access to fdisk12:50
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buliocan someone please help me with router?12:50
cmathesonkakei: that's really really weird12:50
bulioUbuntu isnt going on the net anymore12:50
rickestDr_Willis, that option is what I'm looking for, have reaad the F1-F10 help pages and coulen't find anything. thanks12:50
bulioeven though I choose DHCP12:50
dooglusrickest: if you boot from the install CD instead of the live CD, it gets to a state where you can ctl-alt-F2 very quickly12:50
kangpehdoh12:50
DRK13WHAT  bulio12:51
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Dr_Willisrickest,  most all the live cd's have some sort of 'magic' options documented somewhere.. it maybe on the cd in a file.12:51
DRK13where is Arnold?12:51
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rickestDr_Willis, I'll check the CD again, thanks.  currently using a Gentoo livecd for this purpose because it's console-only but would prefer to switch to ubuntu. thanks again12:51
cmathesonkakei: ever since my first 3d card (voodoo3), i've always had that list of card attributes under it... what kind of card are you running?12:51
dooglustritium: virtual console 1 is used by the installer12:51
Dr_Willisrickest,  I lke the DSL live cd. :P12:52
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boldstrikequestion: can i install ubuntu from the live CD?12:52
dooglusboldstrike: answer: no12:52
Dr_Willisrickest,  wolvix is an interesting live cd as well.12:52
Jormundgandhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104714 - could I get some input?12:52
rickestdooglus, I think it's just Alt-F2 with the install CD rather than c-a-F2 but that's not a full shell.  will have to see if mount, fdisk, etc ., are accessible there12:52
cmathesonboldstrike: not yet12:52
tritiumdooglus: even on installed systems, people still seem to prefer 212:52
boldstrikedooglus: arg12:52
kakeicmatheson 6600GT12:52
rickestDr_Willis, haven't heard of it, will check it out.  quick synopsis of its advantages/curiosities?12:52
dooglustritium: it's closer to f7 I guess - so you don't have to move your fingers so far to get back to X?12:52
Seveasdooglus, then why not 6?12:53
cmathesonkakei: hmm, that should be better than my geforce4 right?12:53
Dr_Willisrickest,  theres a game version with lots of games....12:53
Dr_Willisrickest,  :P12:53
kakeicmatheson right.12:53
boldstrikedooglus: so i need to download and burn a separate install cd12:53
rickestDr_Willis, ahh, now we're talking!  :)12:53
dooglusrickest: "mount" is available from there12:53
cmathesonkakei: are you using  the default kernel agp stuff, or the nvidia agp driver?12:53
Dr_Willisrickest,  and it has the latest XFCE to play with.12:53
Dr_Willisrickest,  and it boots to the console by default.12:53
dooglusboldstrike: it's not impossible to install from the live CD, but it's far from easy12:53
rickestDr_Willis, sounds like the medicine I'm looking for, thanks12:53
kakeicmatheson it's PCI-E12:54
dooglusSeveas: some people disable 4, 5 and 6 to free up some memory?12:54
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kakeicmatheson and i using the nvidia driver12:54
boldstrikedooglus: and there's no boot disk that is available to use the cd for installation?12:54
cmathesonkakei: oh... hmm... i'm clueless i'm sorry.  never run into this before... if dri is enabled everything should be pretty good to go12:54
kakeicmatheson :(12:55
dooglusboldstrike: when I first started using ubuntu I downloaded the live CD thinking it was a "try it, and if you like it, install it" kind of a deal.  but I ended up downloading a 2nd image to install it.12:55
boldstrikedooglus: i've got the live cd, just would like to save some bandwidth if possible12:55
dooglusboldstrike: you can have the install CD mailed to you for free if you have some time...12:55
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dooglusboldstrike: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ is the site if you want it mailed to you12:56
dooglusboldstrike: comes in a nice little 2-cd gatefold sleeve12:56
boldstrikedooglus: that's alright..i'll do the download. for setting up a server, what images will i also need?12:56
dooglusboldstrike: I don't know if there's a cut-down "server only" iso available12:57
boldstrikedooglus: not 'just' a server, but i will need to run a server12:57
DRK13just do a server install12:57
DRK13at boot dont hit enter, type server12:58
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dooglusboldstrike: so get the standard install iso - available from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/12:58
skonHow come if I want to uninstall something in synaptic sometimes it says I have to uninstall like ubuntu-desktop as well?01:00
ElitePetewhen right clicking a folder with mp3's in it xmms plays them out of order, anyone know why?01:01
boldstrikedooglus: downloading it now01:01
cmathesonskon: just do it, ubuntu-desktop is just a virtual package01:01
skonElitePete: is the random button on?01:01
boldstrikedooglus: can't even do a live install?01:01
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ElitePeteskon, yep, thanks.01:01
skoncmatheson: so it's not going to screw anything up, because it says it will be marked for removal?01:01
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felipitohello, hello01:02
slewhi, how can i remove kde and all its programs?01:02
felipitoit seems like irc.freenode.net is down01:02
skonsudo apt-get remove kdebase01:02
slewthanks skon01:02
skonfelipito: www.freenode.net01:02
crimsunfelipito: it's not, it's intentional. Use chat.freenode.net.01:02
felipitooh, ok then01:03
felipitothanks01:03
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zhalhi all01:03
cmathesonskon: no01:03
zhalcan somebody help me with the root account ????? i really need help01:03
cmathesonskon: just don't let it remove all the packages under ubuntu-desktop (gnome-panel, etc)01:04
Jormundgand!tell zhal about sudo01:04
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skonOkay01:04
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boldstrikezhal: what's the problem?01:04
zhali need to define a root password. the setup didn't asked me to define it01:04
JormundgandZhal, you don't need it. Use sudo.01:04
zhalsudo asks me for a pass01:05
skontype your own password01:05
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zhalthanks it's seems to be ok, thank you01:05
slewremove kdebase dosent seem to remove all of it, just like 197k of stuff..01:06
boldstrikecan anyone tell me why i can't play streaming audio in rhythmbox?01:06
zhalubuntu is really really good01:06
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boldstrikezhal: it is...i'm migrating from fedor a01:07
ElitePetezhal, yes ubuntu rockx.01:07
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skonslew: try using synaptic package manager under System|Adminstration01:07
felipitopeople, the windows people (imitators like always) will separate the UI from the kernel in the new Vista version, just like Linux.01:07
mgihey .. does anyone here have much experience with bluetooth? specifically, transferring files from a mobile phone (nokia 6230i)01:08
jahshuadooglus: ok i did that01:08
Jormundgandfelipito: That's nice for them.01:08
Seveasfelipito, that is far off-topic in here01:08
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felipitobut is a good thing I think01:08
theblueHi all, I have giFT and giFTcurs installed.01:08
ryanpghi all... anyone having trouble with firewire drives automounting in dapper? (in the gnome environment)01:09
boldstrikemy audio is working fine, but streaming audio will not play01:09
theblueWhen I try to use giFTcurs, it says that giFT has not been started, or that it can't detect the daemon.01:09
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cmathesontheblue: giftd01:09
Seveasryanpg, automounting is busted in daper iirc01:09
cmathesontheblue: you'll have to configure it first probably01:09
{alejandro}ryanpg do you know how to do it manually01:09
theblueHow do I do that?01:09
ElitePeteyou need to run gift-config i believe01:09
ElitePetein terminal.01:09
theblueAh.01:10
theblueThanks.01:10
ryanpgSeveas, I filed the bug but it's been closed twice01:10
boldstrikei install all the gstreamer files, but it still won't work01:10
ryanpg{alejandro}, yes pmount works fine01:10
Seveasryanpg, number?01:10
ryanpghttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2056401:10
ElitePetequestion: i can just download the debian .deb of vlc media player right?01:10
SeveasElitePete, no01:10
Seveasuse vlc from ubuntu01:10
ElitePete:-(01:10
ElitePeteapt-get install vlc?01:10
mgidoes anyone know why obexftp would connect (via bluetooth) successfully the first time to my mobile phone..01:10
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mgi..but fail every subsequent time?01:10
ryanpgSeveas, I just don't want to reopen it if I'm the only one bitten by the bug01:10
SeveasElitePete, yup01:11
Seveasryanpg, did you do a comolete upgrade?01:11
Seveashttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20564#c13 says that it should be fixed in the latest udev01:12
ryanpgSeveas, I installed from dapper flight 101:12
Seveasryanpg, do an apt-get dist-upgrade01:12
Seveasand reboot01:12
ryanpgSeveas, no I'm up to date01:12
Seveasryanpg, dpkg -l udev | grep udev01:12
ryanpgSeveas, hehe... ok "ii  udev                                  077-0ubuntu5                         rule-based device node and kernel event mana"01:13
poningruquestion how does one figure out what a key is given the code01:13
poningruor example01:13
JormundgandI recall when I tried dist-upgrading to Dapper from Breezy there was a bizarre flicker when typing.01:13
poningru0xa401:13
ryanpgSeveas, I really truely am up to date01:13
Seveasryanpg, and did you reboot or at least restart udev after upgrading?01:13
poningruor 0x9001:13
SeveasI think rebooting will be needed01:13
ryanpgSeveas, I guess I've rebooted about 8 or 9 times since 077 udev01:14
Seveassince the ubuntu5 version too?01:14
ryanpgSeveas, yes01:14
mgiponingru try http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes.html01:14
Seveasryanpg, then do what pitti asks: cry out loud at bugzilla01:14
poningruthanks dude01:14
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ryanpgSeveas, right... but I wanted to do a quick survey of other dapper users, maybe get more info added to the bug01:15
Seveassorry, I don't use firewire01:15
Seveasmaybe someone else :)01:15
ryanpgso what I really want is: any dapper users having trouble with firewire automounting please add to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2056401:15
ryanpgSeveas, it's ok... I'm sure you'll be able to help me with some other problem eventually! :P01:16
mgiBluetooth sucks01:16
ryanpgmgi, firewire sucks01:17
ryanpg:d01:17
Seveas!sucks01:17
mgiEverything sucks.. it's all so damn flaky01:17
ubotusomebody said sucks was a word you should NOT use in #ubuntu01:17
Seveasubotu has spoken.01:17
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Seveas01:17
ElitePetequestion: i'm trying to add a rule for downloading .wmv's in opera but it isn't co-operating.01:17
ryanpgyikes! that's a bad word?!?! ok ok... I'll be uber-nice01:17
Seveasryanpg, being uber nice sucks :)01:18
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ryanpgeven my middle school students can use that word occasionally :P01:18
kakeiwhere is the printer manager to add a new printer?01:19
mgiDoes anyone here know why ObexFTP would connect successfully the first time (via bluetooth to my 6230i) but fail every subsequenet time with "Connecting...bt: -1" ?01:19
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ubuntuhi01:22
ubuntuwhere ld script are located on a ubuntu system please ?01:22
ubuntu(thanks in advance)01:22
JormundgandThe state of sound in Linux, if my experience is anything to go by, is simply horrific.01:22
JormundgandWould it therefore be "wrong" to say "Sound in Linux sucks"?01:23
ElitePetesound works fine for me in linux..01:23
mgiHe didn't say it didn't work01:23
ryanpgI'm not sure what you mean by "state of sound", too vague a term01:23
luisitohellooo01:23
JormundgandGetting everything to play nicely together is quite a feat. Firefox still won't play ball and I haven't started looking for a way to play the startup noise without invoking esd.01:24
Jormundgandryanpg: dmix.01:24
dooglusubuntu: ld isn't a script, but it's in /usr/bin/ld01:24
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nickrudJormundgand, no, hardware that does not do hardware mixing of sound streams suck.01:24
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ryanpgJormundgand, oh dmix yeah it's a bit opaque01:24
=== Jormundgand suddenly wonders: his onboard sound card reports for duty as a VIA 8235. He also recalls Windows referring to it as AC'97 Mumble. Would that do hardware mixing?
dooglusjahshua: you'll probably find that the install CD can resize your partitions now01:25
ubuntudooglus: i'm talking about ld's scripts not ld the command01:25
dooglusubuntu: go on?01:26
ryanpgJormundgand, AC'97 iirc, is generic for several chips01:26
ubuntui finally found them in /usr/lib/ldscript01:26
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MasterTsunamiit's also well supported01:26
jahshuadooglus: ok thanks01:26
ubuntubut can't locate the ldscript.binary one01:26
ryanpgJormundgand, my ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 is enabled with the generic sounding AC'97 alsa driver01:27
ryanpgJormundgand, but hardware mixing is different from dmix you know01:27
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mgibah01:29
nickrudI'm not sure what that difference is, but I do know that a pos cs46xx could play streams going into oss, alsa and esd simultaneously. Something that cheap can't be that innovative, can it?01:30
JormundgandApparently my system has a Realtec ALC201 chip.01:30
ryanpgJormundgand, have you tried running gstreamer-properties and setting Pipeline to "alsasink device=dmix"01:31
ElitePetei can't seem to get .wmv's to open in opera...01:31
meepyWindows Media Videos I think it stands for01:32
meepyYou need some kind of emulator I think01:32
geneo93dont use opera01:32
meepyMplayer can't play VMW :/01:32
meepywmv*01:32
misfit_toymeepy, bullshit01:33
_jasonmeepy, it can with w32codecs01:33
_jasonubotu, tell meepy about w32codecs01:33
skonWhat's the command to display current time?01:33
skonnvm01:33
skonDate!01:33
meepy*sorry*01:33
nickrudmeepy, last night someone pointed out that the wmv's encoded with drm can't be played by mplayer, but the rest can.01:33
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kakeihey guys hi when  i type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable i get : http://pastebin.com/467296 any ideas?01:34
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nickrudkakei, do lines 6 & 7 by hand, that would be quickest.01:35
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hendrix_nite time, thanks for the help guys!!!.. bye bye01:35
sorush20guys the server is messed up ..01:35
ryanpgVLC used to be my "goto" media player, but lately I've had better luck with totem-xine01:35
kakeihow do i restart X control alt backspace?01:35
ElitePeteyes.01:36
odatanyone in here use nicotine?01:36
slewodat, camel lights, baybee01:36
nickrudkakei, yes, but you should do it at a login screen, not at the desktop01:36
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odatslew, lol01:36
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slewi use gtk-gnutella for that01:36
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odati'm trying to find the invisible /.nicotine folder but i can't track it down anyone have any idea?01:37
skoncd /home01:37
skonls -al01:37
nickrudodat, try ls ~/.nicotine01:37
skoncd /home/username01:37
skonls -al01:37
slewor open your home folder and do ctrl-h01:37
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odatthanx guys01:38
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stuart_How would I get a windows media player plugin for firefox?01:41
KyralOn Linux?01:41
KyralYou don't01:41
KyralNot that I know at least01:41
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stuart_Ahh. Thanks.01:41
defiance`Goodnight folks.01:42
ryanpgstuart_, mozplugger maybe'01:42
robotgeekstuart_: if you want to try playing yahoo movies and stuff, it's possible01:42
robotgeekvids, rather01:42
nickruddoesn't crossover have something that actually allows the use of that?01:42
nickrudor did01:42
Xappei can recommend the firefox extension media player connectivity01:42
nickrudwhat does that use?01:43
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stuart_Can you give a link or a command?01:43
Xappeallows you to send embedded media to medi player of choice01:43
robotgeekstuart_: it's an extension01:43
nickrudlike mozplugger :)01:43
ryanpgor you could take a look at mozplugger01:43
stuart_Sorry, I am very new to this. I was pleased at being able to find my way in here ;-p01:44
Xappe:)01:44
ryanpgstuart_, eh I'm just kidding around... I don't even know how well mozplugger works these days01:44
k31thguys i cant seem to compile this app with java does this look right ?  http://pastebin.com/46719001:44
nickrudmozplugger seems to ignore media these days in favor of mozilla-mplayer01:45
Xappestuart_: in firefox, choose "tools" --> "extensions" and click the link "get more extensions". then you can search for media player connectivity01:45
nickrudstuart_, for media stuff, take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, after looking at the link Xappe have01:46
Xappestuart_: but then you should get hold on some codecs for you media players, like w32codecs or copy the ones from the mplayer website01:46
ryanpgmediaplayerconnectivity looks really nifty01:48
stuart_I have just downloaded it01:49
nickrudit does01:49
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Xapperyanpg: it's really nice indeed01:49
ryanpgXappe, I need to now find a good test case for it's use01:49
windowmakerlast night i was trying to get sound working for "return to castle wolfenstein: enemy territory" and i followed this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly and it worked, and today when i turn my PC on it's not working anymore, any help? =(01:50
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stuart_What format does google images use?01:50
whyameyeI want my mp3s to open with xmms instead of totem. How do I change this?01:50
Kyralwhyameye: open them with XMMS01:51
Xapperyanpg: if you have the codecs needed, try the movie trailers at the apple website01:51
ElitePetequestion: i'm trying to add a rule for downloading .wmv's in opera but it isn't co-operating.01:51
ryanpgstuart_, sorry... what?01:51
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ryanpgXappe, oh yeah good one thanks01:51
whyameyeKyral, what I would like is for them to automatically open in XMMS when I click on an mp3 file. Right now they automatically open in Totem.01:51
nickrudwhyameye, right click an mp3, at the bottem select properties, and in the properties dialog tag open with, select xmms01:51
nickrud*tab01:51
stuart_Never mind, that appears to be it working now. Thank you very much.01:51
whyameyenickrud: thanks!01:52
ElitePetequestion: i'm trying to add a rule for downloading .wmv's in opera but it isn't co-operating.01:53
nickrudhrm, it doesn't inline (http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html)01:54
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Xappenickrud: no, that is the best part ;)01:55
defendguinbad spambot attack?01:55
nickrudwell, I'm getting starting and restarting and restarting and restarting videos :)01:55
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bnDhi, was wondering if anyone could help me out with firefox constantly crashing?01:56
Xappenickrud: mine is working fine01:56
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nickrudI think I need to remove mozilla-mplayer and try again01:56
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MWettendorffAnyone here that can help me install a TS client??01:58
defendguinthe no script extension for firefox is awesome it speeds up browsing emensly01:58
ZeroIRCAnyone in here able to help me with my PHP problem?01:58
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SeveasZeroIRC, what is the prob?01:59
SeveasMWettendorff, applications -> internet -> terminal service client02:00
ZeroIRCWarning: mysql_select_db(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/connect.php on line 302:00
SeveasZeroIRC, that's not ubuntu related02:00
ZeroIRCI know02:00
Seveasgo to #php :)02:00
ZeroIRCok02:00
MWettendorffSeveas: and how do i use that to connect to a TS server on the net??02:01
SeveasMWettendorff, fill in the dtails of the server and click connect...02:01
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k31thguys i cant seem to compile this app with java does this look right ?  http://pastebin.com/46719002:03
MWettendorffSeveas: well.. i dont have a domaine name.. wajt protocol shoud i use? and what is the computer name?02:03
thomasanyone know why it's taken 2 hours on "setting up gstreamer" when i do apt-get install -f dist-upgrade?02:03
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SeveasMWettendorff, if you don'tknow these details, how will you ever connect?02:05
varsendaggerthomas, no i don't know, why?02:05
MWettendorffSeveas: well.. with the TS client i can connect.. becous there you only need the IP and a username02:06
thomas...um..perhaps because it has?02:06
Seveasip can be used as domain name02:06
Seveasand you need the password you use on that machine02:06
bnDcan someone help me out? whenever i browse a page with embedded audio or video it spits a seg fault?02:06
Xappewhat spits a seg fault?02:06
bnDfirefox02:07
thomasi can't finish the upgrade and i can't restart for fear of half assed dependencies screwing up my install...02:07
bnDand crashes02:07
XappebnD: what plugin are you using?02:07
thomasseveral programs already don't work02:07
MWettendorffSeveas: what is the client host then?? also the IP??02:07
dooglusthomas: ubuntu's dependancies aren't half assed.  they're 100% assed02:07
bnDXappe, mplayer02:07
Seveasthomas, ok, interrupt the upgrade, do dpkg --configure --pending and apt=get -f install02:07
Seveasapt-get that is02:07
XappebnD: maybe a faulty plugin then? try media player connectivity you too :)02:08
dooglusbnD: try making a new profile for firefox.  that might fix it.02:08
bnDdooglus, thanks02:08
thomasdooglus, i meant restarting in the middle of an upgrade with several dpendncies for the new gdm, etc removed causing it to error for only having half ass (half of) dependencies02:08
bnDXappe, you lost me?02:08
thomascool Seveas  i'll try02:08
Seveaswoah - some netsplit, 2 users :)02:09
XappebnD: media plyer connectivity is an extension for firefox that lets you play embedded media in a standalone player of choice02:09
bnDXappe, ah, thanks :)02:09
dooglusbnD: I'm not sure how - I think you run "firefox -p" or "firefox -P" or something like that to make a new profile02:09
bnDdooglus, alrighty :)02:09
thomasSIGINT won't kill it...crap02:09
Seveasthomas, try SIGKILL02:10
Seveasor kill -902:10
varsendaggerSeveas, is there a wiki on getting sound to work with two different programs02:10
XappebnD: you could say it...ehm...debedds them :)02:10
Seveas!listkeys sound02:10
ubotuFactoid search of 'sound' by key (3 shown): sound ;; soundproblems ;; soundhoary #DEL#.02:10
Seveas!listkvals sound02:10
Seveas!listvals sound02:10
ubotuFactoid search of 'sound' by value (9 shown): esd ;; cmd: #DEL# ;; xmms ;; ripping ;; serpentine #DEL# ;; soundhoary #DEL# ;; eh #DEL# ;; sound ;; soundproblems.02:10
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bnDXappe, lol thanks02:10
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thomasheh killed02:10
Seveashmm, there is something on the wiki02:10
Seveasbut don't know the url :)02:11
bnDis there a reason firefox lists 1.5 as latest release and ubuntu has 1.0.702:11
bnD?02:11
thomasLinux is like a great big video game..02:11
SeveasbnD, yes, breezy is stable - no new versions02:11
joedjbnD: yeah02:11
bnDhow would i go about replacing 1.0.7 with the 1.5 tarball?02:11
XappebnD: that's because breezy was released in october and mainly gets security updates only02:12
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bnDjust extract over the files in ~/.mozilla/firefox?02:12
_jasonubotu, tell bnD about firefox1.502:12
_jasonubotu, tell bnD about firefox1502:12
XappebnD: fine...i've done it, but no not that way...02:12
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bnDthanks02:13
varsendaggerSeveas, what is the deal with #DEL#02:13
thomasum... Seveas it started doing gstreamer again >_> and it's once again stuck on it02:13
XappebnD: I guess you got the ff1.5 install guide link from ubotu?02:13
TelepbnD, also check this out https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/FirefoxNewVersion02:13
Xappeand now you got it from Telep02:14
Telepheh02:14
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kakeiany one pls can help me with this : i have installed Nvidia Latest drivers http://pastebin.com/467351 but when i do glxgears i get a crappy result : http://pastebin.com/46735902:15
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thomasman it just won't skip gstreamer..and it keeps freezing on it02:17
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ElitePeteanyone here have skype?02:18
Xappeyes02:19
Linuturkwhat is the recommended hdd partition size and setup?02:19
ryanpgtarnation! I can't get embedded quicktime to work with mediaplayerconnectivity02:19
Linuturki'm going to dual boot with a windows xp install02:19
ElitePetecan i call my home phone with skype?02:19
tdnElitePete, yes, if you pay for it.02:20
XappeElitePete: yes, if you byy skypeout credits02:20
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Xappe*buy02:20
ElitePeteoh, no thanks :-P02:20
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Xapperyanpg: do you have codecs for quicktime then?02:20
ryanpgXappe, I'm pretty sure... totem plays *.mov02:20
tdnElitePete, voipbuster.com enables you to call your home phone for free... But I don't know if they got a Linux client yet...02:21
Seveasthomas, odd02:21
GargoyleWell, after trying penguin racer - i think Its safe to say I don't actually have and hardware acceleration! :(02:21
Seveasthomas, dpkg -p --force-depends gstreamer02:21
Seveasand retry02:21
Xapperyanpg: could be that the quicktime versions are not supported by the codecs02:21
ryanpgXappe, I have gstreamer-pitfdll installed and all my /lib/win32 codecs are registered02:21
Linuturkwhat's the recommended partition sizes for a ubuntu 5.10 install?02:22
Xapperyanpg: if totem is able to play the embedded file format, then you should be ok...i can't imagine that's a problem with the extension02:22
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ElitePetei wish ventrilo would get a friggin linux client already02:22
ryanpgLinuturk, don't know about recommended but I'd guess the "average" install takes up about 3gb minimum02:22
thomasit's priority is optional02:22
thomasany way i can skip it?02:23
sorush20anyone here using dapper02:23
sorush20?02:23
Linuturkryanpg, well, how many partitions should I create, and what sizes? does ubuntu us a swap partition?02:23
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sethkLinuturk, one partition with as much space as you want to give to linux.  Swap is optional.  If you have 512 MB real ram you probably don't need swap, but if you have lots of disk space and want to use a gig or so for swap then go ahead02:24
ryanpgXappe, dunno... does apple.com/trailers/ work for you?02:24
Linuturksethk, so, how does 5gig for the main ubuntu install and 1 gig for a swap sound?02:25
Xapperyanpg: some of them, not the hd versions, or what they are called02:25
XappeLinuturk: that would be ok. I would go for a /home partition as well02:25
sethkLinuturk, that sounds fine as long as you don't want to install both gnome and kde02:25
thomasSeveas, returns nothing...just freezes again...02:25
luisitohow can I make Gtk-Gnutella to use the skin I mainly use for the system?02:25
sethkLinuturk, I would not make a separate home partition02:25
luisitohow can I make Gtk-Gnutella to use the theme I mainly use for the system?02:25
sethkLinuturk, that accomplishes nothing and makes things less flexible02:26
thomasSeveas, is there a way i can explicitly skip this package?02:26
Linuturksethk, is there a way just to install XFCE only?02:26
Seveasthomas, then something Really Weird is going on02:26
sethkLinuturk, yes, with expert mode02:26
Seveasnot that I know of...02:26
ryanpgXappe, I'll try a few others02:26
Linuturksethk, internet access required?02:26
sethkLinuturk, I'm not certain.  I think so, for xfce, but someone should check my memory.02:27
defendguinwhere can i view a list of packages available in extras?02:27
ryanpgXappe, Totem could not play 'http://movies.apple.com/movies/universal/nanny_mcphee/nanny_mcphee_h.480.mov'. The file you tried to play is an empty file.02:27
Linuturksethk, that's a problem, b/c I've only got wireless access, and I can't get my card to work with ubuntu :(02:27
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ryanpgXappe, what player do you use for quicktime?02:27
sethkLinuturk, you've done an install and it didn't find the wireless?02:27
Xapperyanpg: xine-ui02:27
sethkLinuturk, go ahead and use gnome, then.02:28
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Linuturksethk, right, a sucessful install, but my card is the (aparrently notorious) MN-520 by microsoft02:28
sethkLinuturk, too bad.  Of course you could download repository files to local disk and make a local respository, but that's a lot of trouble.02:29
ryanpgXappe, ahh.. ok well xine doesn't play *.mov well for me at all, hehe I guess linux (ubuntu) multimedia really is a bit of a mess02:29
sethkLinuturk, for xfce, I mean02:29
varsendaggerryanpg, mplayer kicks butt02:29
varsendagger!mplayer02:30
ubotuhmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:30
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Linuturksethk, you don't happen to know of a solution for that card, do you? if i could get that working, i'd be giddy as a school girl02:30
kakeiany one pls can help me with this : i have installed Nvidia Latest drivers http://pastebin.com/467351 but when i do glxgears i get a crappy result : http://pastebin.com/46735902:30
thomasThere has to be some way to skip this or take it off the list or something02:30
sethkLinuturk, no, I haven't played with that one, unfortunately.  Google is no help?02:30
ryanpgvarsendagger, yes but mplayer has soooo many dependencies... VLC used to love me darn it!02:30
Linuturksethk, i did a search on the ubuntu forums, and there were several posts, but no answers :(02:30
Xapperyanpg: well, most things work very well. quicktime is hard to get going I guess...02:31
naliothryanpg: a simple "sudo apt-get install mplayer-686" will take care of all that02:31
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Amaranthanyone know how to setup ftp?02:31
Linuturksethk, the card works fine with another debian based release of linux ( www.damnsmalllinux.org ) with their prism2 setup02:31
quiethey... if I install dapper flight 2... can i distupgrade then 3 comes out?02:31
Amaranthi installed proftpd but i can't connect02:31
Amarantherr, i can connect but it says my user info is wrong02:31
ElitePeteanyone know where i can get some more screensavers for ubuntu?02:32
ryanpgnalioth, yeah I just hate it when on package pulls in six other packages... including xmms for pete's sake02:32
dooglusElitePete: xscreensaver and xlockmore have a lot of screensavers02:32
ryanpgs/on/one02:32
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naliothryanpg: beats having to chase each depend down by hand, right?02:32
CaptainMorganhey02:32
CaptainMorganmajor infestation eh?02:32
sethkLinuturk, then steal all the configuration from that distro.  or just use that distro.02:32
naliothCaptainMorgan: been infesting for months now02:32
ElitePetedooglus, i know but i want more :-P02:33
ryanpgnalioth, err... I guess... it's really apples and oranges02:33
dooglusElitePete: electricsheep ?02:33
ElitePetedooglus, ?02:33
ptloAmaranth: out of the box config for protfptd for breezy works for me. are you using a valid account on that box?02:33
Amaranthptlo: yep02:33
Linuturksethk, the only problem is DSL doesn't have the beauty of ubuntu. not enough features, and they use the 2.4 kernel. I've talked to them, and there isn't a way to move those settings over02:33
CaptainMorganwhat's the default kernelpath? I installed Breezy tonight, very happy with it. trying to get wifi working and after getting sources and modules I try make and it can't find KernelConf02:33
ptlo(ie can you log in via ssh with it)02:34
dooglusElitePete: have you seen it?  it's another screen saver.  see also kscreensaver02:34
CaptainMorganso much more stuff available in breezy..02:34
sethkLinuturk, moving 2.4 settings to a 2.6 kernel is rather difficult02:34
Xapperyanpg: apples in this particular case :)02:34
ptloAmaranth: could you paste your /etc/proftpd.conf on the pastebin, please?02:35
Amarantherr, it's the standard one02:35
Amaranthi haven't changed anything02:35
ryanpgXappe, heh good one02:35
ryanpgXappe, or apples and sour grapes02:35
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naliothCaptainMorgan: have you installed kernel-headers and linux-source ?02:35
Xapperyanpg: ;)02:35
CaptainMorganyes02:36
CaptainMorgansuccessfully, no errors02:36
Linuturksethk, can you recommend anyone to help with this problem with the wireless? or recommend a site or resource?02:36
XappeCaptainMorgan: try with gcc 3.4 maybe?02:36
CaptainMorgannow I know where the term 'breeze' comes from.. just gott get past the make02:36
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CaptainMorgangot all gcc's installed..02:36
ptloAmaranth: does your /var/log/daemon.log contain any interesting output from proftpd?02:36
ryanpghrm... mplayer seems to have broken dependencies on dapper02:37
sethkLinuturk, not really.  The best option would be to study the working implementation and figure out the 2.6 equivalents.  That can be done, but it would take time.02:37
XappeCaptainMorgan: export CC=gcc-3.4 before make02:37
Amaranthptlo: it's empy02:37
Amarantherr, empty02:37
CaptainMorganMakefile.inc:139: *** KERNELCONF: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/kernel/.config does not exist..  Stop.02:37
CaptainMorganseems to be looking for an executable02:38
Amaranthhmm, it seems i can't traceroute to the server...02:38
CaptainMorganmaybe that's incorrect.. nm02:38
Xappehum02:38
ryanpganyone else running dapper here atm?02:38
ptloAmaranth: totally empty? wow, strange, i have atleast gdm entries in there ....; ok, check if proftpd is running at all? maybe you had another ftp server installed and its running with different config?02:38
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ptloAmaranth: well, for ftp you should be able to log in, no matter the firewalls (if you can do the connection to the port 21 on the server, that is); later, when transmitting data, firewalls will be giving you a headache :)02:39
ryanpgerr... anyone else running dapper able to install mplayer-686? It seems there's broken dependencies currently02:39
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XappeCaptainMorgan: make oldconfig in the kersnel source dir maybe?02:39
SWATthere is a memory leak with the nvidia drivers in breezy?02:39
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Amaranthptlo: proftpd is the only ftpd running02:39
CaptainMorganoldconfig ?02:39
kakeiany one pls can help me with this : i have installed Nvidia Latest drivers http://pastebin.com/467351 but when i do glxgears i get a crappy result : http://pastebin.com/46735902:40
ptloAmaranth: ps auxw | grep `fuser -n tcp 21`   ... does it mention proftpd?02:40
ptlook02:40
CaptainMorganin my kernel dir located in linux-source-2.6.12/  ihave all .c 's02:40
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Amaranthptlo: travis   25977  0.0  0.1   3064   760 pts/0    S+   19:40   0:00 grep fuser -n tcp 2102:40
ptloamaranth: does /var/log/auth.log mention any logins?02:40
windowmakeri recently installed RTCW: enemy territory and the sound didn't work, so i followed this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly and it worked flawlessly, but when i turned on my PC this morning the sound didn't work anymore, any help?02:40
XappeCaptainMorgan: yes, but it's looking for the .config file02:40
ptloAmaranth: err, with the backticks (or, alternativels, fuser -n tcp 21, see what the pid is, and grep for that pid to see the process name)02:41
CaptainMorgantried to run make in /kernel/ got back: make: *** No rule to make target `.config', needed by `/config_data.gz'.  Stop.02:41
XappeCaptainMorgan: but I'm quite a noob when it comes to kernelconfigs02:41
Linuturklinux MN-52002:42
robotgeeki am using IBM java 1.5 on PPC. if i type 'java' at the console, it get the following error message, "JVM not found: libjvm.so  - libjvm.so". However, if i execute it with full path, like, "/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/jre/bin/java" it works without the error. any clues?02:42
CaptainMorganno problem, could use all the suggestions I can get :(02:42
CaptainMorgan:)02:42
XappeCaptainMorgan: $ sudo  make oldconfig02:42
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ElitePeteis their any temp files that need to be cleared on linux (like windows) that free up space?02:43
robotgeekCaptainMorgan: eiteher make oldconfig/make menuconfig02:43
XappeCaptainMorgan: is what i would've tried02:43
Amaranthptlo: nobody   25944  0.0  0.4   4300  2192 ?        Ss   19:38   0:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)02:43
robotgeekCaptainMorgan: no sudo. never compile stuff as root02:43
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CaptainMorganin the madwifi dir? or in kernel? - in kernel, still recieving 'no rule to make target'02:43
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Amaranthptlo: wow, lots of people trying to crack into the server :P02:43
ptloAmaranth: ok great...if proftpd refused your login, /var/log/auth.log should have a line of two of information regarding that02:43
CaptainMorganoh..02:44
CaptainMorgangotta remove sudo02:44
ptloheh :)02:44
ElitePeteis their any temp files that need to be cleared on linux (like windows) that free up space?02:44
CaptainMorganblah02:44
Xapperobotgeek: but you have to? in /usr/src?02:44
windowmakerkakei: are you using the drivers from apt?02:44
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ptloElitePete: du is a gread command, showing how many space you use02:44
robotgeekXappe: you add yourself to src group, and do it that way02:44
Amaranthptlo: odd, the last connection attempt in there is me ssh'ing in02:44
Xapperobotgeek: ah02:44
nix4meElitePete : a cron job could do that02:45
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ElitePeteis their a temporary file cleaner built for linux?02:45
windowmakeri recently installed RTCW: enemy territory and the sound didn't work, so i followed this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly and it worked flawlessly, but when i turned on my PC this morning the sound didn't work anymore, any help?02:45
naliothElitePete: /tmp/ means temp02:45
ElitePeteis it safe to clear that?02:45
ptlobut don't just go erasing everything in /tmp :)02:45
CaptainMorganEvidently I need /config_data.gz ... but where do i get it from?02:45
naliothElitePete: hard drives are cheap nowadays, <hint> <hint>02:45
ElitePetei was just asking, i have a 160gig hd just like to keep my pc clean.02:46
kakeiwindowmaker no02:46
ptloAmaranth: that's ok, auth.log keeps log of all authentication going on, including ssh. or you're saying that you tried to connect to ftp *after* that and that isn't logged in?02:46
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windowmakerkakei: haha, good, what model card are you using?02:46
Amaranthptlo: yep02:46
CaptainMorganso close to this too.. I can feel it.02:46
ptloAmaranth: stupid question, but maybe you get diverted to some other server?02:46
CaptainMorgannever got this far before..02:47
ptloAmaranth: can you try ftp localhost from that server?02:47
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Amaranthptlo: i tried using the ftp client and running 'open localhost', it hung02:47
TokenBadcan someone help me set up router with proftpd?02:48
Amaranthptlo: oh, now localhost works02:48
XappeElitePete: well, if you feel you have to clear up some space you can do apt-get clean...will remove cached .deb packages02:48
ptloAmaranth: with your username and password?02:48
Amaranthptlo: yep02:48
ElitePeteXappe and i can't break stuff with that right?02:49
ptloAmaranth: if it still doesn't work from the outside, i guess the network admins remapped port 21 to some other server02:49
zpartais there anyway to install kubuntu from ubuntu ?02:49
ptlozparta: from synaptic install kubuntu-desktop02:49
Gargoylehow do I test if 3D accel is working properly?02:49
theCorezparta, install the kubuntu package02:49
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Amaranthptlo: ack, i forgot to tell them to forward port 21 ;)02:49
XappeElitePete: I think not...should be safe02:49
Amaranthptlo: it's going to a windows machine02:49
Gargoylexorg.log shows no obvious errors02:49
ptloAmaranth: :p :) happens02:49
XappeElitePete: man apt-get02:49
zpartathanks, running apt-get but since synaptic is just a frontend for apt-get sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should work just fine :P02:50
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ptloGargoyle: run glxheads and see the output02:50
ptloGargoyle: it should display which 3d driver it's  using02:50
ptloif it says mesa, you're on 2d02:50
TokenBadI set up the passive ports in proftpd.conf and set both my ftp port and passive ports in router02:51
TokenBadbut when try to ftp in02:51
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ptloGargoyle: there's also glxinfo, which gives much more verbose info02:51
TokenBadget something about address already in use02:51
TokenBador something02:51
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ElitePeteTokenBad, try changing the ports?02:52
LinuturkLinux--wlan-ng << is that included in Ubuntu?02:52
PinkBunnyhello dear sirs, can anyone tell me shorewall version in breezy tree?02:52
pozdiyptlo, where can I find man page for glxheads?02:52
crimsun!info shorewall02:52
ubotushorewall: (Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 864 kB02:53
GargoyleIt says Mesa!02:53
TokenBadElitePete, I put the ports as 50000 to 5001902:53
TokenBadfor passive02:53
TokenBadand its not the port02:53
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crimsunPinkBunny: see what ubotu just pasted02:53
PinkBunnyyes, but that cant be right ..the version02:53
PinkBunnyeven sarge uses newer one02:53
crimsunwhy would you think that's wrong?02:54
PinkBunnyI see in ubuntu mirror pools 3.0.x versions even02:54
windowmakercan anybody help me with getting the sound working in return to castle wolfenstein: enemy territory?02:54
ptlopozdiy: no idea .... :( i don't have manpage for that either02:54
PinkBunnyproblem is that i see several versions in those ubuntu mirror pools, I dunno which is current actual one02:54
CaptainMorganwhy does the /kernel/ not have a .config ??02:54
XappePinkBunny: apt says 2.2.502:55
Madpilotwindowmaker: try this in a terminal: "killall esd" and then "esd" - I've no idea why, but killing & restarting the sound server seems to fix ET's sound...02:55
pozdiyptlo, glxheads seems to be fast and concise, but no description of options...02:55
nickrudCaptainMorgan, it does, it's available in /boot02:55
PinkBunny!info iptables02:55
ubotuiptables: (Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools), section net, is standard. Version: 1.3.1-2ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 302 kB, Installed size: 976 kB02:55
Gargoyleptlo, It says Mesa Indirect.02:55
crimsunthe version that's available to you is the version that ubotu just stated02:56
windowmakerMadpilot: didn't work =(02:56
varsendaggerdoes anyone know the esd sound trick to play sound from two different programs?02:56
ptloGargoyle: run glxinfo also02:56
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TokenBadElitePete, I connect to the ftp find...actually its when I try to list the dir02:56
ptloGargoyle: which card do you have, btw?02:56
nickrudvarsendagger, I've used esddsp in the past for some programs02:56
ptloGargoyle: i'm not sure what the output is for radeon02:56
ElitePeteTokenBad, whats the address i'll give it a whirl02:57
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Madpilotwindowmaker: meh... sorry, that's what works for me when ET starts w/o sound (which happens every so often...)02:57
Gargoylemade some changes from the wiki - reboot, brb02:57
crimsunPinkBunny: I'm not sure how you arrived at sarge having a newer version of shorewall than breezy02:57
windowmakerMadpilot: yesterday i followed this guide to fix it http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly and it worked flawlessly, but then this morning i start up my PC and it didn't work02:57
ElitePetewindowmaker did you save your settings?02:57
Madpilot!ubuntuguide02:58
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.02:58
windowmakerElitePete: what do you mean?02:58
CaptainMorgani tried to do apt-get config_data.gz but not lvoe02:58
CaptainMorganlove02:58
Linuturkattn wireless guru's ; I've found some sites describing ways to get a MN-520 to work with linux. Perhaps we can query and discuss these sites to see if I can get my system working ?02:58
misfit_toyCaptainMorgan, love? like are we singing beatles songs here?02:58
ElitePetewindow02:59
varsendaggernickrud, how dooes that work?02:59
ElitePetealsactl store02:59
crimsunCaptainMorgan: what is 'config_data.gz' in reference to?02:59
ElitePeteconfig everything then do sudo alsactl store.02:59
TokenBadElitePete, I msged it to you02:59
ElitePetekk token.02:59
ElitePeteone moment.02:59
windowmakerElitePete: alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing02:59
nickrudvarsendagger, you would do esddsp <program> ; it didn't always work, it mostly did in my recollection03:00
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CaptainMorgancrimsun: make command returns with the error that it needs the /.config - trying to set up madwifi03:00
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ElitePetewindowmaker, did you do sudo ?03:00
crimsunCaptainMorgan: install build-essential, gcc-3.4, and linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:01
Gargoylesoz ptlo, just added fglrx to /etc/modules and wanted to reboot03:01
CaptainMorganyes03:01
CaptainMorganalready in03:01
Linuturkattn wireless guru's ; I've found some sites describing ways to get a MN-520 to work with linux. Perhaps we can query and discuss these sites to see if I can get my system working ? Can anyone help?03:01
windowmakerElitePete: this time i did, =P03:01
PinkBunnycrimsun: sorry, my mistake, its even more ancient in sarge03:01
PinkBunny2.2.3 :)03:01
crimsunPinkBunny: heh03:01
ElitePetewindowmaker, so your good to go?03:01
PinkBunnybut 2.2.5 still doesnt suit my needs03:02
ptloGargoyle: any luck with it?03:02
windowmakerElitePete, still isn't working =(03:02
MadpilotLinuturk: I don't even have wireless, but if you post more details - and the URLs you're looking at - someone might be able to help you...03:02
PinkBunnycrimsun: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/shorewall/03:02
Gargoyleprlo, glxinfo returns a lot!03:02
ElitePetewindowmaker, dunno then i'm no expert03:02
PinkBunnyhow am I to judge this?03:02
windowmakerElitePete, heh03:02
ptloGargoyle: hehe, true :) only the first lines are interesting now, glxinfo | less03:02
crimsunPinkBunny: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=shorewall03:02
Gargoyleptlo, for vendor string it says SGI.03:02
ElitePetewindowmaker, did you do "sudo alsactl store"03:02
ElitePete?03:02
Gargoyleptlo, I have Radeon X800 XT03:03
Linuturkhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/1610/sort/2/cat/146/page/1 << http://www.wifi.com.ar/doc/wifi/wlan_adapters.html << http://tuxmobil.org/pcmcia_ci10500.html << these are the main sites03:04
PinkBunnycrimsun: ah, its for "ubuntu unstable" :)03:04
windowmakerElitePte: yes03:04
windowmakerElitePete: yes03:04
PinkBunnybut then again, if I am already having to go out of "stable" branch I could as well stick with sarge, not that I will even have X installed on this machine, its supposed to be a router :)03:05
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crimsunPinkBunny: why not etch, then?03:06
crimsunit has 3.0.1-103:06
Linuturkattn wireless guru's ; I've found some sites describing ways to get a MN-520 to work with linux. Perhaps we can query and discuss these sites to see if I can get my system working ? Can anyone help?03:07
Linuturkhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/1610/sort/2/cat/146/page/1 << http://www.wifi.com.ar/doc/wifi/wlan_adapters.html << http://tuxmobil.org/pcmcia_ci10500.html << these are the main sites03:07
robotgeekLinuturk: what does the ubuntu wireless page say about your card03:08
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robotgeekubotu: tell Linuturk about wireless03:08
Gargoyleptlo, any more ideas for me? (I think I am getting retina burn of my xorg.conf!)03:08
CaptainMorganlol03:08
wimlinuxturk cant you use ndiswrapper?03:08
ptloGargoyle: what ddoes it say for 'direct rendering' ?03:08
PinkBunnycrimsun: I need security updates for stuff.....I only plan to go out of stable for few packages that i might need for shorewall (like new iptables)03:09
ptloGargoyle: hmm, no, i'm not radeon user so i don't know how it looks with radeon....setting the right driver in xorg.conf and loading the kernel module should be enough03:09
GargoyleNo03:09
ptloafaik03:09
Linuturkrobotgeek, not on the list03:09
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Gargoyleptlo, it says no.03:09
joedjanyone remember where i configure what Alt+Tab does in kubuntu? at the moment it is cycling through windows forwards, which is nasty...03:10
crimsunPinkBunny: then breezy is as good as any other.03:10
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robotgeekLinuturk: what does the .nl site say about your wireless support (link right on top of the wiki page)03:10
ptloGargoyle: fglrxinfo  mentiones mesa or radeon?03:10
Falstiustoday seems to be the day for nuisance attacks ... my home connection was getting "syn floods" today and now I have to use chat.freenode.03:10
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Gargoyleptlo, mesa03:11
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ptlo:(03:11
{alejandro}oh man03:11
{alejandro}are you having fglrx woes03:11
Linuturkrobotgeek, green. aparently it works with linux. I've used it with another distro of linux called damnsmalllinux03:11
{alejandro}it took me forever to get it to work03:11
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Gargoyle{alejandro}, Yeah. :(03:12
PinkBunnycrimsun: it is, just dunno if I can trust it update&upgrade as cronjob and not worry that something might go wrong, have more faith in debian stable when I am supposed to build setup&forget machine that I can be around.03:12
Linuturkrobotgeek, fowarded me to this site http://www.linux-wlan.org/03:12
Gargoylexorg.log says:- fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled03:12
robotgeekLinuturk: great, i think you can use this howto03:12
robotgeekLinuturk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MA111Howto03:12
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Gargoylelsmod lists fglrx being used by agpgart!03:13
PinkBunnyits mission critical machine....in other words.....dean would hire ninjas to kill me if it fails and I am not available to fix it :)03:13
ryanpgXappe, yay! it works now that I have mplayer installed03:13
yubimusubiHey, I was on here last night, and somebody told me to apt-get 2 packages before updating to breezy from hoary...one was ubuntu-desktop, and Idun remember the other...any help?03:13
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Gargoyle{alejandro}, Any tips?03:13
{alejandro}uh03:14
{alejandro}well03:14
Madpilot!upgrade03:14
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:14
erikstiany Eclipse users here that can tell me how to replace all tabs by spaces while I code?03:14
Linuturkrobotgeek, does it matter that my card is not a usb card, and that its not even the same make?03:14
{alejandro}I am on an amd64 box03:14
{alejandro}and I had to do a fresh install03:14
{alejandro}one tip is that fglrxconfig isn't worth shit03:14
{alejandro}err03:14
{alejandro}beans03:14
{alejandro}pardon my language03:14
yubimusubiMadpilot: thanks03:14
Gargoylelol03:14
Madpilotyubimusubi: looks like ubuntu-base as well?03:14
thomasyay finally03:15
thomasgot it to skip it03:15
thomasmwuahahahhaha03:15
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Gargoylegreat! ;)03:15
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{alejandro}hold on03:15
yubimusubiMadpilot: Yes, I think that's it...man, do you know anyway to change the colors in Gnome-Terminal? (Is it the same as in Xterm?)03:15
{alejandro}lemme pull out my xorg.conf Gargoyle03:15
Gargoylethe control panel doesn't work ether... it wants libstdc++5... I have 6!03:15
pressmananyone have ubuntu on a mac?03:15
mebsdcan i use ubuntu without gnome?03:15
Gargoyle{alejandro}, Thanks.03:16
maneydoes the evince program do anything useful for other folks?  there used to be a postscript viewer that actually worked, I thought, but this useless thng seems to be all there is in Breezy?03:16
Madpilotyubimusubi: Edit -> Profiles for Gnome Term.03:16
ZeroIRC!pastebin03:16
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:16
crimsunPinkBunny: why wouldn't breezy be trustworthy, heh? It's a main package and receives support from the core team.03:16
thomasi use rafb.net/paste03:16
thomasoh my lord03:16
yubimusubiMadpilot: Awesome, thanks03:16
thomasnot again03:16
Madpilotyubimusubi: sorry, Edit -> Current Profile03:17
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thomashow many gstreamer plugins are gonna freeze this?03:17
yubimusubiMadpilot: I figured it out03:17
{alejandro}ok Gargoyle http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/583903:17
tdnCan I get some help on getting access to a wireless LAN that is protected with WPA/TKIP. I have a PSK and other data from my network admin. I have already installed wpa_supplicant, but appearently I have misconfigured it.03:17
crimsuntdn: what happened?03:17
derelmhi. i have a debian sarge system running (remote) but i want to install ubuntu onto another partition. i read i should be using debootstrap, but could someone please guide me?03:18
{alejandro}tdb03:18
{alejandro}tdn put your conf file on pastebin03:18
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{alejandro}/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf03:18
joedjsomewhere in KDE i managed to set things such that alt+tab doesn't display the window list as you cycle through. now i can't find where to undo this...03:18
yubimusubiThe other question I have...(Sorry, I don't use GNOME much...) is how do I get the scroll wheel to change virtual desktops? ctrl-alt-left annoys me...03:18
crimsunderelm: see 8.6.35.1 of http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot03:18
Madpilotyubimusubi: hover over the desktop thing on your panel, and roll the wheel03:19
robotgeekcrimsun: care to help with a java packaging error?03:19
crimsunderelm: just be mindful of not using 'sid' but 'breezy'03:19
derelmcrimsun: i did that, but it told me it cannot find breezy script03:19
{alejandro}robotgeek maybe I can help03:19
yubimusubiMadpilot: Ohh, okay...at least that;s better, thanks03:19
{alejandro}robotgeek what's up03:20
maneyMadpilot: that's deeply silly.  it also works backwards, IMO03:20
maneyjust sayin'03:20
crimsunderelm: you don't have breezy's debootstrap, so of course it wouldn't be able to find it.03:20
robotgeek{alejandro}: lintian -vi gives http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5840 (i'm new to all this, i dunno if it's okay to distribute it)03:20
tdncrimsun, heh.... I lost my network connection and could not get it up again.... (The command you supplied did not work :( )   Before I was online from an unprotected wlan... But I was not able to connect to this after setting up wpasupplicant... Now I am online via a cable ;)03:20
yubimusubiMadpilot: But I was thinking more along the lines of scroll wheel on desktop background...but perhaps GNOME doesn't support that...03:20
Madpilotmaney: you're scrolling up or down to go left or right, not sure which way would qualify as "forwards" ;)03:20
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tdn{alejandro}, 20 secs.03:20
derelmcrimsun: well, yes. but how do i get it?03:20
{alejandro}ok03:20
crimsunderelm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/debootstrap03:20
crimsunderelm: download the breezy version and install it03:21
derelmcrimsun: thanks.03:21
{alejandro}tdn, do you know the key and ssid for the proteted networks?03:21
tdn{alejandro}, yes.03:21
maneyMadpilot: yeah, I guess it's just a roll of the die whether it will seem sensible to any given person03:21
{alejandro}tdn, did you do wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase03:22
{alejandro}and put that in the conf file03:22
{alejandro}err the output03:22
{alejandro}for the psk info03:22
crimsuntdn: you also need to run wpa_supplicant with -dd03:23
crimsuntdn: that way you can tell from the verbose output what's wrong03:23
{alejandro}robotgeek, are you installing one of those .bin packages03:23
derelmcrimsun: is it sufficient to take the scripts from the archive (ubuntus debootstrap src package)?03:23
tdn{alejandro}, /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is at http://pastebin.com/46743503:23
crimsunrobotgeek: what's the issue?03:23
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crimsunderelm: generally, yes03:24
derelmcrimsun: thanks again03:24
maneyhmmmm... maybe this isn't entirely evince's fault.  it does seem to be an odd postscript file, although raw gs shows all the pages... in revere order.  kghostview misbehaves just like evince.  bah!03:24
{alejandro}tdn did you clip your psk for pastebin?03:24
tdncrimsun, hmm... Ok. I lost the oneliner you provided... Can you give me it again? :)03:24
robotgeekcrimsun: trying to package the IBM java sdk for ppc.03:24
tdn{alejandro}, yes03:24
crimsunrobotgeek: 1.5?03:24
{alejandro}ok03:24
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robotgeek{alejandro}: yes, it's one of those .bin things03:24
tdn{alejandro}, did not want to pulish the psk03:24
robotgeekcrimsun: yes03:24
crimsunrobotgeek: wait for it to be added in Debian's first.03:25
robotgeekcrimsun: hmm, oh okay03:25
{alejandro}alien the rpm that is03:25
uP|G0dLik3heya there ppl... can anyone help me here... I just deleted my /usr/share/X11 directory (X couldn't start after dist-upgade to dapper)03:25
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{alejandro}sudo sh (javapackage)03:25
{alejandro}you get an an rpm03:25
uP|G0dLik3I've already reinstalled the fonts packages... but what else goes to /usr/share/X11???03:25
{alejandro}sudo alien javarpm03:26
Gargoyleback soon.... hopefully.03:26
tdncrimsun, right now I killed my wpa_supplicant in an attempt to get a connection to the unprotected network...03:26
{alejandro}dpkg -i javadeb03:26
robotgeek{alejandro}: it builds okay and installs okay.03:26
{alejandro}ah03:26
robotgeek{alejandro}: i wanted to find out if it was okay that lintian was cribbing that much03:26
{alejandro}oh, I just thought the package was being retarded03:27
robotgeek{alejandro}: hmm, that it is03:27
maneyuP|G0dLik3: dpkg --search usr/share/X11 | cut -d \  -f 1 | sort | uniq => gsfonts-x11:03:28
maneylibx11-6:03:28
maneyx-common,03:28
maneyxfonts-100dpi:03:28
maneyxfonts-75dpi:03:28
maneyxfonts-base,03:28
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{alejandro}it seems it is putting everything in the wrong place03:28
maneyxfonts-base:03:28
maneyxfonts-scalable,03:28
maneyxfonts-scalable:03:28
{alejandro}maney pasteboard03:28
{alejandro}pastebin03:28
uP|G0dLik3hmmmm03:28
{alejandro}robotgeek, it's not distro agnostic03:28
maneysorry, I forgot this version of xchat doesn;t show the friggin' newlines03:28
uP|G0dLik3i liked that cmd :D03:28
maneythought it had put it on one03:28
tdncrimsun, ?03:28
uP|G0dLik3maney: thx ;D03:28
{alejandro}so yeah, wait for the debian one03:28
crimsuntdn: sudo wpa_supplicant $OPTIONS -dd03:29
crimsuntdn: where $OPTIONS is the string in your /etc/default/wpasupplicant conffile03:29
robotgeek{alejandro}: hmm, so not a good idea to distribute, huh03:29
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{alejandro}you can't make-jpkg that one, right03:29
crimsun{alejandro}: you can't legally distribute it anyway03:29
crimsunsorry {alejandro}03:30
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crimsunrobotgeek: you can't legally distribute it anyway03:30
{alejandro}I know, but I am thinking like javapackage03:30
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{alejandro}where you can repackage the distributed one for your computer03:30
{alejandro}is there something equivalent03:30
{alejandro}or does it just have to be written03:30
swimhey folks, does anyone know if kde runs any better when installed in Ubuntu instead of installing Kubuntu"?03:30
crimsunyou can use make-jpkg (from java-package) to create a deb for your own use, yes. You cannot make that deb available for public download.03:31
maneyso that would be another question: anyone know why the Breezy version of xchat isn't showing newlines in the entry widget?  they used to be extremely visible when pasted in...03:31
{alejandro}right, but is there one compat with this IBM java distribution03:31
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robotgeek{alejandro}: i make-jpkg'ed it03:31
tdncrimsun, ok. Thanks. I'll try.... But before I fire off the command, I just want to ask if my current network connection will still be usable? Will I lose my ssh connections/etc? I am using the cabled LAN card right now....03:31
{alejandro}hm weird03:32
robotgeekcrimsun: hmm, but it's okay to do it like !javadebs?03:32
tdncrimsun, the last time there was some other commands too... Something like ifdown --force or something like that?03:32
crimsuntdn: don't worry about those commands right now03:33
robotgeek{alejandro}: can you explain in the /msg ?03:33
crimsunrobotgeek: you can't package ibm's 1.5 currently since java-package doesn't know how to handle it03:33
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robotgeekcrimsun: it does, i compiled the one from debian?03:34
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crimsunrobotgeek: using 1.5 from IBM?03:34
incipienshi all03:34
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crimsunrobotgeek: it doesn't have a script to handle it last I looked03:34
swimmmm anyone?03:34
robotgeekcrimsun: i have the java-package 0.27 from debian, and it supports IBM ppc03:34
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uP|G0dLik3how can I issue a reinstall with dpkg or aptitude?03:35
uP|G0dLik3I can only find remove and install03:35
tdncrimsun, ok.03:35
robotgeekcrimsun: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/j/java-package/03:36
crimsunrobotgeek: ah, the autosync hasn't gotten it yet03:36
tdncrimsun, the output from wpa_supplicant is here : http://pastebin.com/46744903:36
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dianaI can't get sound to work...and I don't know why.03:36
robotgeekcrimsun: hmm,you are talking about dapper though?03:36
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crimsunrobotgeek: yes. It won't go into anything but Dapper.03:37
tdncrimsun, from there it appearently continues to scan for ssids...03:37
swimhey folks, does anyone know if kde runs any better when installed in Ubuntu instead of installing Kubuntu"?03:37
derelmi read that there is a "server-release" (paraphrased by me) of breezy available, is there a way to debootstrap that on a remote server or is it basically the same base-system?03:37
sethkderelm, it's the same base03:37
tdncrimsun, ssid broadcast has been disabled from the AP. Is this a problem?03:37
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{alejandro}swim, it usually means that there are gnome packages as well03:38
crimsuntdn: no, but you need to enable a parameter. One sec.03:38
{alejandro}swim, it is all the same packages from the same repository03:38
robotgeekcrimsun: thanks for you help03:38
{alejandro}swim with just a little work you could change ubuntu to kubuntu completely03:38
CaptainMorgancan't find config_data.gz ...03:38
varsendagger{alejandro}, i think my wife might know you.03:38
swim{alejandro}, ah ok, I dont mind the gnome packages, but I just was not at all impressed with kubuntu, though I have been with ubuntu very much03:38
crimsuntdn: in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, make sure you have ap_scan=2, not ap_scan=103:38
varsendaggerdo you know a woman named chalice?03:39
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{alejandro}varsendagger no03:39
joedjswim: what didn't you like? i am enjoying kubuntu03:39
tdncrimsun, ok03:39
varsendaggerwell i guess not then03:39
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swimjoedj, way more crashes than ubuntu (actually, simply crashes where as ubuntu had none)03:40
tdncrimsun, I see that the top of the output in my previous paste was missing... It is here: http://pastebin.com/46745203:40
crimsuntdn: you also need scan_ssid=103:40
sethkI didn't formally install kbuntu, I just installed KDE to an ubuntu installation.  Except for a problem with a couple of fonts, everything works nicely.03:40
{alejandro}I am probably gonna switch to xubuntu when that is out there03:41
tdncrimsun, ok03:41
varsendaggernickrud, i can't find esddsp do you know where i can find it?03:42
intelikey{alejandro}, just install [server]  mode and add what ever desktop you want.    this is linux after all..... well what passes for linux nowa days.03:42
{alejandro}right03:43
tdncrimsun, Line 14: Invalid configuration line 'scan_ssid=1'03:43
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{alejandro}intelikey I am pretty much running xubuntu now03:43
Bytter_uh.. hmmm... can anyone help me here?03:43
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Bytter_X says it can't open /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy03:44
wimbytter state your problem03:44
Bytter_after dapper upgrade03:44
tdnBytter_, not unless you tell us whats wrong....03:44
Bytter_i know, i know... :P03:44
crimsuntdn: scan_ssid=1 goes inside your network={} stanza03:44
tdncrimsun, ahh. Ok.03:44
intelikeywhy is it that you can't kill processes on the live CD ?03:45
tdncrindone03:45
tdncrimsun, done03:45
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Bytter_also, it's complaining that FreeFontPath refcount is set to 2 and should be 103:45
nitinshantharamhey guys, i insatlled webmin and tried to browse to teh site but i get access denided for ip, how do is config webmin so all ip's can access it?03:46
Bytter_so, anyone has any idea? i just sumply can't load up X :( :( :(03:46
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tdncrinshould my net work now?03:47
intelikeyBytter_, i don't know about dapper, but doing a dpkg-reconfigure -a  might fix it.03:47
tdncrimsun, I still don't get an IP on eth1...03:48
XappeBytter_: or try to change the permissions of ~/.Xauthority03:48
jmainI still haven't figured out my USB mouse issue.  Just checking to see if anyone else has had their USB mouse constantly locking up?03:48
Bytter_issuing....03:48
{alejandro}Bytter_ put your /var/logs/Xorg.0.log (is that right) up on pastebin if you can03:48
crimsuntdn: need -dd output again03:48
tdncrimsun, wpa_supplicant produces a lot of output... It seems to me, that it does not get connected... But I can't read it. It is too fast.03:49
{alejandro}or at least say the ee lines03:49
tdncrimsun, ok.03:49
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Bytter_how do I put under pastebin?03:49
crimsuntdn: redirect the output to a text file, then post that text file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:49
Bytter_i'm in console :P03:49
Bytter_how do I post with a command line? ;)03:49
{alejandro}links03:49
{alejandro} lynx03:49
{alejandro}whatever03:49
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intelikey!paste03:49
ubotufrom memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:49
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{alejandro}   or do the log, grep ee03:50
thomasum...should the linux image take a while to set up? or should it go rather quick?03:50
XappeBytter_: use #flood instead03:50
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shawnzhey03:50
Bytter_but, but, but... how do I copy&paste a contents file in console?!? this doesn't quite have a clipboard-manager, right?03:50
intelikeythomas, system speed related03:50
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Bytter_sorry for my ignorance :(03:51
shawnzi just installed the nvidia drivers via nvidia-installer from their website03:51
shawnz(kernel is 12-10-686)03:51
Linuturkrobotgeek, negative, that tutorial didn't work03:51
intelikeyBytter_, it do if you install gpm03:51
Linuturkrobotgeek, :(03:51
thomasintelikey, about how long for 300MHz?03:51
shawnzso i compiled my own kernel module with the nvidia-installer, and now every gl application just shows "Segmentation Fault."03:51
Bytter_oh... ok.. w803:51
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robotgeekLinuturk: does it say prism2 ?03:51
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tdncrimsun, ok.03:51
robotgeekLinuturk: you would have to ignore the usb specific parts03:52
Madpilotshawnz: do the Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu's repos not work?03:52
shawnznope03:52
shawnzthey used to before i reinstalled03:52
tdncrimsun, http://pastebin.com/467461 (I'll use the ubuntu pastebin next time)03:52
shawnzapparently they don't now03:52
Gargoyle{alejandro}, Thanks m8. Your conf and *another* reinstall of the drivers. :)03:52
intelikeyidk thomas but after you are sure it is just hung, give it another half hour.   :)03:52
Moodlesi can't seem to find the cpu temperature anywhere03:52
shawnzso i uninstalled them and got the nvidia-installer03:52
shawnzMoodles: apt-get install mbmon && mbmon03:52
thomashehe...ok intelikey I'll be back in an hour or so :P03:53
Gargoyle{alejandro}, 6868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1373.600 FPS03:53
Gargoyle:)03:53
{alejandro}Gargoyle yay opengl fun03:53
Linuturkrobotgeek, i guess that was the problem :( also, i couldn't edit the files it asked me too. i'm using XFCE, and the filemanager in the main menu wouldn't open. when i did get it open, i was able to write to the second file, but i couldn't save it03:53
Gargoyle:)03:53
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Linuturki couldn't find the first file :(03:53
Moodlesshawnz: thanks03:53
shawnzno problem Moodles03:53
{alejandro}Linuturk, use xffm for the filemanager03:53
Linuturkrobotgeek, i could install the app though03:53
Gargoyleshit.. 3am03:53
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robotgeekLinuturk: is it a prism2 card?03:53
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Gargoylethanks again. cya!03:54
Linuturkrobotgeek, yes03:54
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shawnzMadpilot: no idea?03:54
crimsuntdn: ah, it's not setting pairwise or groupwise03:54
robotgeekLinuturk it's a pcmica?03:54
Linuturkrobotgeek, yes03:54
theCoreBytter_ <-- Big fag03:54
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Madpilotshawnz: I run ATI myself, I was just asking because the repos are far easier to deal with :)03:54
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tdncrimsun, I don't know what that means.03:54
MadpilottheCore: stop, FFS...03:54
theCoreBytter_ <-- Big fag03:54
Linuturkrobotgeek, i couldn't find this file /etc/modprobe.conf03:54
theCoreBytter_ <-- Big fag03:54
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{alejandro}    /ignore theCore03:54
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kakeiHi guys , i have a big trouble i was configuring my nvidia driver and i decide to Reboot now i can't get into KDE i get a Anachronistic Fail or something like that03:54
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robotgeekLinuturk: no need03:54
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shawnzindeed Madpilot03:54
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gum67i gotta load "sb16" somewhere, do you know where ?03:55
Bytter_(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE03:55
Bytter_error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy03:55
Bytter_(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"03:55
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robotgeekwtf!03:55
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Bytter_bah, #flood, right?03:55
jbroomekick 'em crimsun03:55
_jasonlol I like how crimsun returns right on time03:55
{alejandro}kickban the loser03:55
varsendaggeryeah03:55
crimsuntheCore: shut up.03:55
intelikeyis there a way to save settings on the live CD so that it will load the same way next boot ?03:55
shawnzsad these types get on sympatico03:55
shawnz:(03:56
robotgeekLinuturk: hmm, where were we?03:56
Linuturkrobotgeek, so, i should sudo modprobe prism2 ?03:56
shawnzintelikey: well, not to the CD =p03:56
robotgeekLinuturk: lsmod | grep prism03:56
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gum67can i ask a question ?03:56
robotgeekLinuturk: after plugging your card in03:56
_jasonis it possible to make gnome menus expand like in windows?03:56
intelikeyshawnz, of course not.  duh03:56
robotgeekgum67: right place to do that, jump right in03:56
gum67i gotta load "sb16" somewhere, do you know where ?03:56
Linuturkrobotgeek, i'm using the card on my windows box right now. i'm going to have leave here, then try the instructions you give me, then come back03:56
{alejandro}Bytter_ do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just for kicks03:56
Bytter_i'm doing a -a03:57
shawnzintelikey: I know it uses casper-snapshot... try looking up where casper-snapshot keeps the difference file and i guess you can back that up03:57
robotgeekLinuturk: install the linux-wlan-ng-doc package, comprehensive instructions in there03:57
Bytter_it's taking ages03:57
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{alejandro}ok03:57
robotgeekLinuturk: ignore the module compiling parts03:57
shawnzbut i don't know beyond that03:57
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Linuturkrobotgeek, i've installed it, where are the instructions?03:57
intelikeyk03:57
tdncrimsun, can it be fixed?03:57
Linuturkrobotgeek, i'll still have to edit the interfaces file, right?03:58
gum67robogeek, nobody answered.03:58
Moodlesi ran the "apt-get blah blah" as root, where will it be installed?03:58
robotgeekLinuturk: /usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-ng-doc03:58
Madpilotgum67: more details might get you an answer...03:58
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tdnMoodles, it depends what blah blah is.03:59
robotgeekMoodles: dpkg -L <package>03:59
shawnzMoodles: you mean mbmon?03:59
Bytter_zzzZzzzzzZzzzz... in other news... damn... that EU directive just sucks...03:59
Moodlesrobotgeek: mbmon03:59
shawnzit's installed in /usr/bin... just type mbmon03:59
shawnzits in the path03:59
gum67Okay, just installed Ubuntu on the hard drive, and last time i did that, i got help loading "sb16" that fixed the sound last time, and also what is the root password ?03:59
Linuturkrobotgeek, but, i'll still have to edit the interfaces file, right?03:59
GlassCasketI searched Google for this, but didnt find exactly what I was looking for.I have a hardrive with XP and on and I'm getting another drive soon. And want to tripple boot, so one drive has XP and the other drive has two distros. Anyone know of a comprehensize guide of doing so?03:59
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robotgeekLinuturk: i guess so03:59
Linuturkok, i'm off to try it03:59
intelikey!root03:59
uboturoot is, like, totally, rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:59
mebsdGlassCasket: grub04:00
BlueEaglegum67: The root password is not set. Please use sudo.04:00
Linuturkrobotgeek, be back soon04:00
shawnzgum67: there is no root password. ubuntu is configured so the first user can 'sudo' to root04:00
robotgeekLinuturk: i'll be here04:00
sproingieGlassCasket: really easy with grub.  in fact most decent installers these days will detect all your other bootable OS's04:00
gum67okay, that requires a password right?04:00
sproingiegum67: yes.  your password.04:00
{alejandro}gum67, when you installed, you picked one04:00
GlassCasketThanks04:00
{alejandro}it's that04:00
Madpilotgum67: when Ubuntu asks for a pw - or you use sudo - it's your own pw04:01
Bytter_yepes... do a sudo bash, and then passwd04:01
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DsManyone here?????????????04:01
GlassCasketWhere do you get Grub? Or it's already on the Ubuntu DVD?04:01
sethkDsM, no04:01
BlueEagledsm: No.04:01
MadpilotDsM: nope ;)04:01
DsMok04:01
Bytter_sleeping here04:01
Dr_WillisZZZzzz...04:01
intelikeysudo passwd  to set the root password04:01
shawnzGlassCasket: GRUB is the application that is used to start linux by default04:01
DsMwell kubuntu is dead.... thats why i ask04:01
Dr_Willisbut really one shouldent need to set the root password. :P04:01
shawnza standard install will put grub on the hard drive04:01
gum67okay the second problem, i found the answer after a bit of a search on the web, but i need to make sure that SB16 module is loaded, THEN i can mess with Alsa/whatever.04:01
robotgeekintelikey: please don't recommend that04:01
GlassCasketOh ok\04:01
BlueEagledsm: No it's not. :p04:01
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DsMno one is talking04:02
{alejandro}yeah04:02
shawnzhaha04:02
{alejandro}what's with that04:02
shawnzlots of people are talking04:02
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{alejandro}this room is frenetic with help and wild antics04:02
ryanis it possible to alter the volume ID on an iso image via mkisofs, rather than having to remake the whole iso?04:02
intelikeyrobotgeek, me thinks me will.   when people ask how to set their root password i'll tell them.  thank you.04:02
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Bytter_geezeee. how many questions does dpkg-reconfigure -a really asks?!?!?!04:02
Bytter_like 100? 200? :D04:02
nickrudBytter_, at least that many04:02
{alejandro}intelikey the idea is to not be confusing04:02
intelikeyBytter_, depends on the number of packages installed04:03
sproingiedpkg-reconfigure -a is death by tedium.  i rather don't recommend it04:03
robotgeekinsomnd: i don't see anyone asking?04:03
nickrudI did that once, and spent about an hour until I got tired, and turned off the machine :)04:03
shawnzwhat is dpkg-reconfigure -a04:03
shawnzall??!04:03
MWettendorffAnyone here that can explain me how to install a teamspeak client??04:03
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Bytter_i just hope it makes my X go live... why have I done a dist-upgrade... oh why...04:04
shawnzMWettendorff: just download the binary and run it?04:04
{alejandro}oh yeah04:04
{alejandro}haha04:04
robotgeekintelikey: i don't see anyone asking?04:04
intelikeyshawnz, yes -a = all04:04
sproingieshawnz: yep.  the manpage specifically warns you it'll take a while too04:04
{alejandro}Bytter_ are you using dapper04:04
shawnzheh04:04
Bytter_yeah...04:04
{alejandro}aw04:04
varsendaggerubutnu is more cowbell04:04
{alejandro}well04:04
theblue!tell theblue about mp304:04
sproingieubotu: chant04:04
ubotusproingie: I give up, what is it?04:04
{alejandro}back up your important files04:04
Bytter_"good luck", right? :P04:04
sproingiewhups, wrong channel ;)04:04
{alejandro}you need to reinstall like everything04:05
Bytter_what?!?04:05
{alejandro}to fix dependencies04:05
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gum67well, i'll ask again in 5 minutes, so it doesn't look like i'm flooding.04:05
{alejandro}I had to install fresh to get rid of dapper04:05
sproingiethat's what you get for using dapper04:05
Bytter_but.. but.. but... ohhhhhh :(04:05
{alejandro}oh yeah04:05
{alejandro}it's bad04:05
mahangu_how do i create a symlink?04:05
crimsuntdn: sorry, had some distractions.04:05
{alejandro}ln04:05
{alejandro}or link04:05
sproingiedapper is a development version.  hint, even ubuntu devs don't upgrade it all at once04:05
{alejandro}yeah04:05
shawnzmahangu, "ln -s /old/file /new/file"04:05
Bytter_yeah.. it was stupid, i know..04:05
{alejandro}I learned that the hard way myself04:05
shawnzyeah04:05
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sproingiei made a similar mistake with breezy when it was new04:06
shawnzi tried upgrading to dapper with dist upgrade04:06
{alejandro}I feel for you here04:06
crimsuntdn: ok, you need to add "pairwise=TKIP" and "group=TKIP" to your network={} stanza04:06
Bytter_I just did it 'cause I was driving mad trying to get fglrx working...04:06
shawnzVERY VERY VERY VERY BAD IDEA04:06
shawnzhad to reformat04:06
tdncrimsun, okay. No problem :)04:06
{alejandro}I did it for the firefox 1.5 package04:06
tdncrimsun, ok04:06
{alejandro}and the xorg 704:06
sproingieshawnz: it'll dist upgrade just fine actually.  to whatever broken state that dapper may be in04:06
Bytter_ok04:06
Bytter_what about04:06
Bytter_dapper flight 2?04:06
{alejandro}stupid, stupid alex04:06
{alejandro}eh?04:06
shawnzsproingie: not exactly04:06
{alejandro}Bytter_ stick with breezy04:06
Bytter_lol04:06
{alejandro}for science04:06
shawnzthe packages are so broken it won't actually dist-upgrade properly the first few times around04:06
shawnz:(04:06
Bytter_but I need latest mono... and monodevelop... and banshee :P04:07
sproingieshawnz: true, i guess if they haven't written migration packages, it can get pretty wedged04:07
GlassCasketStill one thing I don't really understand. If I wan't two distros on one drive, how will I set upm all opf the partitions?04:07
shawnzand even when i did it04:07
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shawnzthere were still two packages that didn't install04:07
shawnzthen of course, after a reboot, no X, no eth, etc04:07
sproingieGlassCasket: you make partitions.  using a partition editor like qtparted.04:07
sproingieGlassCasket: google for "system rescue cd", it has qtparted04:07
Bytter_shawnz, yaah.. same here04:07
TokenBadok back04:07
{alejandro}I had to reinstall from disk04:07
GlassCasketThanks.04:07
{alejandro}fortunately there was nothing n there04:07
intelikeyGlassCasket, you could have 20 os's on one drive and boot all of them from lilo/grub04:07
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shawnzoh haha04:08
GlassCasketYeah04:08
shawnzthat reminds me04:08
shawnzi had 39 partitions once. all 2gb.04:08
tdncrimsun, done.... Still not getting any IP :(04:08
sproingiei don't know that lilo could handle it. far as i know it *still* has high-cylinder issues04:08
crimsuntdn: does it associate successfully, though?04:08
MWettendorffshawnz: thx..04:08
tdncrimsun, how do I tell?04:08
crimsuntdn: look at the -dd output04:09
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intelikeysproingie, not unless your bios does iirc04:09
tdncrimsun, ok04:09
mebsdwhy so many partitions04:09
{alejandro}why not04:09
shawnzwell, it was so i could fit every OS ever on them04:09
sproingieintelikey: ok.. still it's hard to find a bootloader as featureless as lilo04:10
shawnzi have several flavours of linux and every version of windows minus one and two04:10
shawnzi got to windows xp home edition before it stopped working04:10
intelikeymaybe that's why i like it sproingie04:10
sproingiei like syslinux.  the multiple screens are really useful04:10
shawnzsproingie: isolinux =p04:10
gum67what do you tell grub to load a kernel ?04:11
sproingiemostly i like grub because it can actually read a filesystem04:11
shawnzgum67,04:11
shawnzroot (hd0,0)04:11
sproingiefreebsd's bootloader's the best.  got forth?04:11
shawnzkernel /boot/kernel-name.z04:11
{alejandro}my least fave is yaboot04:11
gum672 different things.04:11
{alejandro}the one for mac04:11
{alejandro}ick04:11
shawnzgum67, type both...04:12
tdncrimsun, as far as I can tell it does not. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/584304:12
nickrudI like lilo because it doesn't need a filesystem04:12
shawnzerrrrrr04:12
mebsdlol freebsd can't even identify windows properly04:12
DsMdoes anyone know who to talk to about setting up a mirror?04:12
shawnzDsM: of what...04:12
DsMubuntu / kubuntu04:12
shawnzsigh04:13
shawnzjust make a mirror04:13
shawnzand email the webmaster.04:13
regeyareally, mebsd?  that's interesting.04:13
mebsdwith frebsd boot loader, windows partition shows as "???", which is dumb04:13
gum67ls04:13
sproingieit does just fine with windows.  the installer is what's broken04:13
DsMis there an rsync server running that i can use a cron job to keep it updated?04:13
gum67sory04:13
shawnzthat is hardly not identifing mebsd04:13
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Daveyargh :/04:13
Daveymy computer is deaded :(04:14
shawnzthats just "i cbf to go find the name of the os on this partition because it isnt bsd based"04:14
mebsdfreebsd boot loader is simply stupid04:14
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mebsdi rather use grub04:14
mebsdor netbsd boot loader04:14
sproingiegrub's nicer out of the box for sure04:14
shawnzlilo can be nice04:14
Bytter_haven't used lilo since slackware04:14
regeyamy monitor was purple when it came back on a few minutes ago.  one of the color temp settings has gone wonky.04:14
shawnzwith the bmp things and such04:14
sproingieall i care about bootloaders is that they load and let me pop extra parameters in if i want to04:14
mebsdlilo is simple, but sux if you have to reinstall it every time you boot kernel04:15
nickrudlilo is especially nice with bad bioses04:15
DsMshawnz: no rsync?04:15
shawnzyou don't mebsd...04:15
mebsdand you have chance to unable to boot kernel04:15
{alejandro}hm04:15
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sproingielilo results in unbootable boxen because it can't find kernels in the filesystem04:15
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shawnzi was trying to make an Ubuntu/kfreebsd before04:15
Bytter_true, very true...04:15
shawnzwith no success =o04:15
sproingiethat imho makes it fail at the job of a bootloader04:15
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intelikeysproingie, then lilo should be your fave  cause adding extras is as easy as just typing ' extras <enter>'04:16
rage_sorry all, my brother taken over my account; i lefted my xchat session04:16
rage_          open while I was outside, i'm really sorry04:16
sethklilo has advantages in some situations.  For example, lilo can boot a kernel without understanding the file system on which the kernel is stored.04:16
rage_(theCore)04:16
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sethkgrub is generally easier to manage, but lilo works in situations that grub can't handle.04:16
Lord_Athurcan I download all the code (source) of a distro to modify it?04:16
shawnz:o04:16
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shawnzreally sethk04:16
sproingiei thought grub could handle a raw sector as well.  maybe i'm wrong04:16
shawnzhow does it manage that?04:16
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mebsdgrub works in situations that lilo can't handle04:17
sethkshawnz, by storing the block number (on the disk) where the kernel is located04:17
intelikeyLord_Athur, sure but why ?    it's like a billion million bites04:17
sethkmebsd, untrue04:17
shawnzcool04:17
{alejandro}Lord_Athur except for binary kernel modules, that's kinda the idea behind any debian based distro04:17
{alejandro}ubuntu is no exception04:17
sproingieubuntu's default grub hosed me because my root fs was xfs, and the grub that came with ubuntu didn't understand xfs04:17
crimsun_tdn: any luck?04:17
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sproingieinstaller didn't so much as peep either04:17
Xapperage_: punish him04:17
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sproingiehopefully that's been fixed04:17
sethksproingie, yes, the installer should pick that up, I'd submit a bug if it isn't fixed yet.04:18
sproingietho my /boot is still ext304:18
bnDhi, wondering if anyone could tell me a command to remove kde?04:18
tdncrimsun_, no :( I don't think so... I have pasted the -dd output...04:18
crimsun_tdn: url?04:18
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Lord_Athurthen where can I download it from?04:18
Bytter_apt-get remove kde04:18
nickrudbnD, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt04:18
mebsdwtf you talking about, sethk, can lilo boot xen kernel as module?04:18
tdncrimsun_, my earlier msg: crimsun, as far as I can tell it does not. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/584304:18
bnDthanks guys04:18
regeyaomgwtf04:18
nickrudbnD, that gets about 95% I think04:18
intelikeyLord_Athur, the repos  src04:18
sethkmebsd, you know full well you are mixing apples and oranges and that question is meaningless trolling04:19
sproingieBytter_: kde is just a metapackage.  removing libqt will pretty much get everything kdeapps/libs/games/etc depends on04:19
ClayGwget wikipedia.org04:19
bnDnickrud, thanks :) what i was looking for04:19
ClayGI wonder what that would "weigh"04:19
bnDget it all off!04:19
{alejandro}Lord_Athur it might be wiser to start with debian though since there are more packages04:19
shawnzgood idea ClayG!04:19
regeyabnD: search for libqt and remove it; the most thorough way of removing kde EVAR.04:19
mebsdstupid newbie, grub is more advanced than lilo04:19
nickrudbnD, I should make a ubuntu factoid of that :)04:19
ClayGit is actually04:19
mebsdit's not apple and orange questions04:19
{alejandro}uh oh04:19
regeyabsd users are rude04:19
{alejandro}!holywar04:19
ClayGi wonder how much content it really has04:19
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, {alejandro}04:19
regeya!start an os war04:19
uboturegeya: I don't know, could you explain it?04:19
sproingieif you installed kubuntu-desktop with aptitude, removing it with aptitude will remove all of kde04:19
regeyablast!04:19
{alejandro}GRUB VS LILO04:19
sethkmebsd, of course it is, turkey.  I've been running unix much longer than you've been alive, so don't give me your newbie bs04:19
sproingiebut that's not the usual case04:19
DaveyOK, so heres the deal, my roomie and I had the exact same computers, *identical*, my wifes died so I gave her mine, he bought a new one and I got his (this is over the course of a week, its complex, just deal :), now I've put my drives back into my box, and when Ubuntu loads, I get the splash screen it says "Loading Modules" and then dumps to this (yes, I wrote it all out, LOL) http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=571904:20
_jasonbnD, I removed kde earlier today, remove the package libqt3-mt04:20
shawnzNTDETECT.COM FOR THE WIN04:20
Daveyany ideas?04:20
regeya!start an editor war04:20
ubotujoe is better than xemacs.04:20
bnDyay, gaining 300 mb of space04:20
ClayGI mean since when you think about it , you would figure all is text(html) and at a byte per character it would be difficult to fill a 80gig harddrive that way04:20
crimsun_tdn: you're _positive_ you use TKIP with WPA?04:20
Bytter_if you really want a war, use the following keywords out loud in public: "LINUS" "GNOME" "KDE" :P04:20
bnDnickrud, _jason thanks :)04:20
nickrudand a apt-get remove libglib2.0-0  as well ;P04:20
Lord_Athur[{alejandro}]  do I have to download each package source?04:20
intelikey!start a desktop war04:20
ubotufluxbox is much better than kde!04:20
regeyawell no doubt, joe *is* better than xemacs.04:20
sproingiei guess the bot needs "start a bootloader war" now04:20
{alejandro}Lord_Athur why do you want to04:20
Lord_Athurmm04:20
regeyajoe has no aspirations to be anything other than an editor.04:20
{alejandro}Lord_Athur are you making a custom distro04:20
sproingie!start a distribution war04:20
ubotusproingie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:20
sproingie!start a distro war04:20
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, sproingie04:20
sproingiehuh04:20
crimsun_tdn: you can try resetting ap_scan=104:21
regeyaBytter_, I agree with Linus, totally, and I'm using GNOME ATM04:21
mebsdsethk: you are simply newbie..04:21
Lord_Athur[{alejandro}]  I'm learing it04:21
bnDnickrud, im considering removing gnome as well, im using fluxbox atm, but dont want to be stranded i spose ;P04:21
{alejandro}Lord_Athur sure you could theoretically but it is such a pain in the arse04:21
sethkmebsd, flamer04:21
bnDthe girlfriend needs something to use when shes here04:21
regeyalike ubuntu, don't like the current mild-but-annoying bugginess of the kde packages04:21
sethkbnD, it would really be more trouble than it is worth04:21
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{alejandro}Lord_Athur look into roll-your-own distro sites04:21
bnDsethk, :)04:21
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regeyaalso totally agree with linus's assessment of the print dialogs and the reasons for not changing them04:21
_jason{alejandro}, which ones would you recommend04:22
regeyabut I know, I know; I'm not a common gnome user because, hey, I'm on IRC, duh04:22
Bytter_LOL04:22
tdncrimsun, yes. TKIP it says.04:22
Bytter_I also agree with the assessments of too few preferences04:22
Bytter_but I stop there04:22
regeyacommon gnome users, um, I dunno, maybe they're the dimwits who throw away files to free up RAM.04:22
crimsuntdn: then try reverting ap_scan04:22
shawnzlinus has lost sight of linux tbh04:22
sproingiei think linus takes it a bit far, but he was venting his frustration04:22
Bytter_gnome guys are doing a good job in terms of usability... they just don't like preferences :P04:22
{alejandro}there was a good article on o'reily04:22
shawnzits about choice, not functionality04:22
{alejandro}http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/520104:22
nickrudregeya, the print dialog (according to stuff on planet.gnome.org) is simply not finished, the lack of configuration was not a design decision.04:22
Daveynobody can help me? :/04:22
Bytter_a bit far???04:22
regeyawhat's the metric to determine who the average user is?04:22
Bytter_dude04:22
Lord_Athur[{alejandro}]  a??? where is it? have you got an itnernetaddress?04:22
Bytter_if he wasn't linus04:22
{alejandro}Lord Athur http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/520104:22
mebsdsethk: can lilo load xen kernel and load linux kernel as moudle? or you don't know what i'm talking about? newbie04:23
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Bytter_everyone would just simply be snapping him for his language...04:23
DRAGON_UltraGnome rocks here and KDE sucks04:23
Bytter_even if he had a point!04:23
bnDanyone recommend anything commonly not used that takes up some space and is included in the default installation?04:23
tdncrimsun, SSID=heartofgold, SSID-broadcast: No, Mode: WPA Personal, Algorithm: TKIP04:23
tdncrimsun, ok04:23
sethkmebsd, I have no intention of encouraging you, so you might as well save your typing fingers04:23
l0s3rk1dhello i tried the ubuntu live cd.. ihad problems starting X04:23
regeyanickrud, huh.  I'd think that standard dialogs would be a pretty high priority, though.  *shrug*04:23
shawnzthe point isn't that people who use easy interfaces are wussies or whatever04:23
sproingieyes, only a bit far.  going further would be to, i dunno, overtly act to damage or obstruct gnome.  he expressed an opinion on a list.04:23
DsMso what are the drawbacks of KDE... or GNOME... who should use which version04:23
shawnzeasy is THERE, so why take the hard road04:23
mebsdkernel /xen.gz dom0_mem=400000 noreboot04:23
mebsdmodule /vmlinuz-2.6.10-1.1074_FC4xen0 ro root=/dev/XXX04:23
mebsdmodule /initrd-2.6.10-1.1074_FC4xen0.img04:23
bnDkde = shiny04:23
{alejandro}wait that wasn't it04:23
{alejandro}shoot04:23
{alejandro}there was a long one04:23
Bytter_an opinion? loool04:23
mebsdcan lilo do that, fcking newbie04:23
shawnzDsM: kde has every option ever04:23
sproingieDsM: they're broken in places that windows isn't, and work in places where windows is broken04:23
Bytter_he called FUCKING IDIOT04:23
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nickrudregeya, well, since I don't code anymore, I'm not gonna complain too much about who does what :)04:24
shawnzDsM: and gnome has no options anywhere04:24
regeyaDsM: KDE = complete but cluttered.  GNOME = polished but incomplete.04:24
gum67okay the second problem, i found the answer after a bit of a search on the web, but i need to make sure that SB16 module is loaded, THEN i can mess with Alsa/whatever.04:24
{alejandro}Lord_Athur that wasn't it04:24
{alejandro}my bad04:24
tdncrimsun, now something happens!04:24
bnDregeya, good answer ;P04:24
regeyanickrud: as a non-programmer I don't want to, but as a user :-)04:24
nickrudlol04:24
intelikeymebsd, do us all a favour and shut up.04:24
Madpilotregeya: that should be "incredibly cluttered", not merely "cluttered" :)04:24
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regeyaintelikey, BITER04:24
regeyaheh Madpilot04:24
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crimsuntdn: does ''sudo ifup eth1'' give you a lease?04:24
gum67well, i'll come back later, maybe it won't be as busy.04:24
{alejandro}Lord_Athur http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=269104:25
sproingiei think the only other person who cared about bootloaders was me, and i stopped caring in this context a while ago04:25
shawnzKDE looks bad and is full of useless options that no one ever uses04:25
Madpilotgum67: this is pretty standard for #ubuntu...04:25
shawnzGnome looks amazing and is hardly customizable without heavy changes04:25
bnDwell i know how 450 mb free on a 7gb drive, dunno wtf all the space went :/04:25
bnDnow*04:25
_jasongum67, more bust means more eyes to see your question and help04:25
Bytter_nevertheless, I like options...04:25
sproingiei regret even bringing it up04:25
Bytter_and I like gnome04:25
shawnzthe reason i don't like KDE is because04:25
regeyasproingie, same here.  for one thing I only run one OS on this machine...why worry...04:25
mebsdintelikey: you are speaking for all people here?04:25
sethkshawnz, I disagree with you about KDE options.  I also disagree that it is cluttered.  If I install the things I need, I don't find it cluttered.04:25
shawnzthe options are there to ajust the way it looks... right....04:25
Bytter_I think that gnome should have a way to be more costumizable for power users...04:25
shawnzbut either way, it looks bad04:25
Lord_Athurthanks everyone04:25
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bnDim really enjoying fluxbox more than i did gnome or kde04:26
bnDits very quiet04:26
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mebsdfluxbox is good04:26
nickrudBytter_, have you ever played with gconf-editor?04:26
shawnzno love for E though04:26
Bytter_nickrud , sure...04:26
sproingiei find some parts of kde to be cluttered.  other parts not.  i find it a more palatable poison than not having the functionality at all04:26
Bytter_nickrud : do you find it funny?04:26
shawnzits more customizable than kde but its impossible to change anything at the same time04:26
AlexWHi, I'm having a little bit of trouble installing ubuntu. For some odd reason, when I reach the first installation screen (boot options), the whole thing freezes. I checked the md5 of the .iso, and burnt the CD a second time. I still had the same problem. Could anybody please help me out? Thanks.04:26
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regeyaubuntu uses grub, I only single-boot, but when I used gentoo I used lilo 'coz I was lazy; a 'make install' in the kernel dir even updated my configuration and re-ran lilo for me.  I was happy.04:26
nickrudfunny?04:26
{alejandro}XFCE hardcoooooore04:26
varsendaggerhey04:26
Bytter_nickrud : the same way i played with windows register, but even that way, I do prefer some UI preferences04:26
shawnzindeed04:26
bnDAlex, do you use a radeon video card?04:26
shawnzxfce for the win04:26
Madpiloteveryone - #ubunt-offtopic exists for discussing distros, Linus's pronouncements, or other stuff...04:26
Bytter_register = registry04:27
bnDAlexW, do you use a radeon vid card?04:27
regeyabnD: fluxbox is awesome.04:27
AlexWyep04:27
bnDregeya, <304:27
Bytter_LOL04:27
Bytter_Madpilot, lololol04:27
regeyaoy vey.  I brought up gentoo in passing reference and the offtopic police come out04:27
AlexWradeon x800 pro04:27
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{alejandro}oh dear04:27
varsendaggernickrud, started esound but it gave me an error04:27
bnDubotu tell AlexW about ati04:27
nickrudBytter_, I was simply not sure if you were aware that there are a few things there.04:27
AlexWhaha, thanks04:27
{alejandro}wait you dudes have that?04:27
bnDAlexW, that should solve it04:27
sethkregeya, make install is capable of updating grub.04:27
bnD;)04:27
tdncrimsun, it did! But then I lost my ssh connections...04:27
DsMfluxbox work on ubuntu very well?04:28
Moodleswhats the cmd to unload modules?04:28
bnDDsM, yes04:28
shawnzubotu tell shawnz about ati04:28
regeyasethk: didn't realize it at the time. :-}04:28
sethkMoodles, rmmod04:28
crimsuntdn: ok, so your config is finally correct. :)04:28
{alejandro}AlexW if that doesn't work I have an xorg.conf you can look at04:28
Moodlesthanks04:28
varsendaggernickrud, would you like to see it04:28
tdncrimsun, maybe this is because the packets are going through the wlan in stead ?04:28
nickrudvarsendagger, sure04:28
tdncrimsun, cool!04:28
Bytter_30minutes+ for dpk-reconfigure -a... argh....04:28
crimsuntdn: yep04:28
intelikeyi like gentoo    i'v only installed it on mdk but it's the gui side of mc  so to speak.04:28
AlexWok04:28
varsendagger** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy04:28
regeyaintelikey, not *that* gentoo :->04:28
crimsuntdn: so, next time you'll start wpasupplicant, then sudo ifup eth104:28
varsendaggersorry guys04:28
{alejandro}AlexW http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/583904:28
tdncrimsun, Does wpa_supplicant start automagically now on bootup?04:28
bnDgentoo on mdk?/ what?04:28
crimsuntdn: it does04:28
{alejandro}tdn it does for me04:28
regeyabnD: the gentoo filemanager04:29
nickrudvarsendagger, one line is cool, you could have just typed it :)04:29
bnDooh04:29
bnDi was so lost04:29
regeyagentoo filemanager == rawk04:29
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crimsuntdn: we've changed it in Dapper so that it starts when the card is detected, which is a bit faster04:29
{alejandro}regeya I miht try gentoo some time04:29
tdncrimsun, ok. But I need to manually run ifup eth1 to get an ip on it?04:29
varsendagger... it was two there was onother part04:29
{alejandro}I just don't wanna spend all my time compiling crap04:29
regeyaon another note, I couldn't help but notice that tkdesk is semi-current04:29
tdncrimsun, ok.04:29
varsendaggernickrud, any ideas?04:29
nickrudvarsendagger, like I said, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. I'm sure there's a reason, but I never really looked into it.04:29
crimsuntdn: it's racy, unfortunately.04:29
intelikeybnD, i think gentoo (fm)  predates gentoo (dist) iirc04:29
crimsuntdn: I didn't have time to fix it for Breezy04:29
gum67did someone mention my nick ?04:30
regeyaintelikey, yeah04:30
tdncrimsun, okay.04:30
tdncrimsun, thanks a lot for the help!04:30
bnDintelikey, didnt know that ;)04:30
crimsuntdn: np04:30
regeyaI honestly thought about using fluxbox, tkdesk, and using emacs for everything else.  I think I'm ill.04:30
bnDlol04:31
tdncrimsun, I'll go to bed now. It's 4:33am here... I've been up almost 22 hours now :(04:31
crimsuntdn: I hear that, going on 2 days myself.04:31
Bytter_ohhh... my youth days :P04:31
tdncrimsun, hehe. Okay. Get some sleep mate! :)04:31
intelikeyregeya, not untill you remove X and go console comando your not.04:31
regeyacrimsun, why the lack of sleep?04:31
varsendaggerregeya, what is tkdesk?04:31
crimsunregeya: grading finals and other -offtopic stuff.04:32
nickrudvarsendagger, I was lucky to have a decent sound chip on the first machine I installed linux on, so I've never really had any sound problems to learn from04:32
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varsendaggerahh04:32
Bytter_AHHHHHHHH!!!! 35minutes runing dpkg-reconfigure and it crashed, ARGAHGAHG04:32
varsendaggerthanks anyway04:32
AlexWbnD, {alejandro}, are those links for after i install ubuntu? because right now, i can't install ubuntu. the first screen that i get freezes when i install from a cd04:32
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regeyavarsendagger: a crufty old tcl/tk based desktop solution:  http://tkdesk.sourceforge.net/04:32
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regeyaI *LOVED* TKDESK04:32
nickrudregeya, you're a crusty old man already04:32
{alejandro}AlexW, well, that would be Bad04:32
nickrudtkdesk, I tried that with suse 6.304:32
AlexWyep :P04:32
gum67okay the second problem, i found the answer after a bit of a search on the web, but i need to make sure that SB16 module is loaded, THEN i can mess with Alsa/whatever.04:32
regeyaMORE OVALTINE PLS04:32
{alejandro}AlexW are you getting a terminal mode04:33
{alejandro}can't start04:33
{alejandro}x04:33
regeyaeverything in TkDesk was scriptable.  EVERYTHING.04:33
{alejandro}AlexW or install is all dead04:33
AlexWthe install is all dead04:33
regeyaI wish I had my old fvwmrc.  I had *tight* integration.04:33
bnDmy friend fixed with an option for resolution04:33
varsendaggerregeya, that is why i like fluxbox,,, (i know not everyting is scriptable but a lot of it)04:33
{alejandro} daum04:33
{alejandro}dayum04:33
gum67i'll check back later when it's not so busy.04:34
{alejandro}AlexW where04:34
AlexWi can only get to the first screen with the ubuntu logo + the boot arguments04:34
AlexWthen that freezes04:34
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AlexWand i have to restart my machine04:34
ToranHey guys, is there any gnome equivalent for kolourpaint?04:34
bnDadd the boot argument vga=771 AlexW see if that does it for the install04:34
{alejandro}AlexW which iso are you using and which architecture04:34
nickrudgum67, check on the alsa-project.org site for which alsa module supports the SB16, then lsmod | grep snd to see if it's loaded04:34
AlexWthe install iso for i38604:34
Bytter_damn, damn, damn... Xserver still can't start04:35
AlexWubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso04:35
bnDmy buddy with an ati card just had the same issue AlexW he used vga=771 for the install, then followed the info for getting the driver installed, worked out fine04:35
crimsungum67: the sb16 is handled by snd-sb1604:35
Bytter_better yet, it starts, shows the cursor, and then crashes04:35
AlexWbnD, i can't type at that screen, though04:35
{alejandro}hm04:35
{alejandro}AlexW take it out04:35
bnDyou cant add the boot argument?04:35
AlexWnope04:35
bnD:O04:35
{alejandro}and use the onboard04:36
bnDyeek04:36
regeyashow of hands:  how many of you recall kde being the polished one and gnome being the cluttered mess?04:36
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AlexWi don't have an onboard graphics chip :X04:36
regeyaheh bnD04:36
Bytter_regeya: let's just forget about that war...04:36
varsendaggerHand04:36
AlexWwell, then. that sucks for me04:36
nickrudhand04:36
regeyayou don't count.  you're only a couple of  steps away from being a ratpoison zealot04:36
shawnzso no one knows why everything is segmentation faulting after running nvidia-installer?04:36
intelikeyregeya, last weak ?04:37
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Bytter_my only regret about existing KDE and GNOME is simple: there are too many too good developers now concentrated in making onething...04:37
munzirhi gurus, what's the difference if I use domain forwarding or apache ServerAlias to point my 3 domains to one website?04:37
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Moodleslm-sensors didn't do much for me, only displays ram ammount and what type of ram04:37
{alejandro}AlexW any other cards around04:37
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AlexWunfortunately, no.04:37
regeyaBytter_, not wanting to war.  just remember those days and watch the current wars with amusement thinking, "dang, how quickly everyone forgets."04:37
intelikeybbl04:37
shawnzmunzir: well, first off, apache serveralias only works in apache, not every port and service04:37
Bytter_but I highly doubt that we would see a KNOME or a GNODE soon04:37
{alejandro}well shite04:37
AlexW:)04:37
MadpilotMoodles: install ksensors - it seems to work better for desktop display than xsensors w/ lm-sensors backend04:38
varsendaggerrat poison is great, if you lkie rat poison you should try enlightnement04:38
{alejandro}what can I say04:38
{alejandro}Dare I ask if windoze works04:38
Bytter_regeya : yeah, i know...04:38
AlexWbahah04:38
varsendaggerha ha04:38
gum67i forgot your nick.04:38
{alejandro}varsendagger evilwm to the max04:38
shawnzwindoze04:38
shawnzwe've got a live one04:38
{alejandro} haha04:38
gum67anyway, i know it's the <sb> module, but forget where to put the 'sb'04:38
{alejandro}I am not that bad04:38
AlexWthanks anyway, {alejandro}. i'll have to see if one my friends has an old card laying around04:38
varsendaggergum67, who are you talking to?04:38
AlexWbye04:38
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gum67i forgot04:38
{alejandro}bye04:38
gum67i think you Varsen04:39
varsendaggerbye04:39
crimsungum67: snd-sb1604:39
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varsendaggerprobably not04:39
varsendaggertheCore, you are back04:39
gum67okay.Crimsun04:39
theCorevarsendagger, yep04:39
gum67Crimsun, where does it go ?04:39
{alejandro}dudes, it was his brother04:39
varsendaggerahh04:39
theCorevarsendagger, i left my session wide open04:40
varsendaggeryour brother should learn som manners04:40
crimsungum67: just modprobe snd-sb1604:40
crimsungum67: does that work?04:40
varsendaggerbut you are cool04:40
gum67okay, i'll try.04:40
{alejandro}man04:41
{alejandro}after all this04:41
{alejandro}still no alsa04:41
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Bytter_lol04:41
gum67Crimsun, that gave lots and lots of errors.04:41
luisitohello04:41
Bytter_{alejandro} well... after all this, still no X :P04:41
{alejandro}Bytter_ I feel the hurt04:41
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{alejandro}Bytter_ you gotta suck it up and go back to breezy04:42
bnDcan someone tell me a cmd to see a files size?04:42
{alejandro}your dependencies will be totally f*cked but oh well04:42
crimsungum67: summarise?04:42
Bytter_yeah :(04:42
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crimsun{alejandro}: what was the last troubleshooting ALSA step?04:43
gum67Crimsun, i'll copy one.  brb.04:43
luisitoanyone can tell me please the permissions for the /bin folder? mines are drwxr-xr-x and I need to check if it is right 'cause I did a dumb thing.04:43
Bytter_though I would really love to understand why the hell X just flashed04:43
Bytter_flashes04:43
{alejandro}crimsun, aplay04:43
{alejandro}same thing as the others04:43
gum67FATAL: Error inserting snd_sb16 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko): Operation not permitted04:43
Bytter_and the only error is the missing SecurityPolicy04:43
{alejandro}I get a second of sound on 0,104:43
_jasonbnD, du04:43
{alejandro}and poof04:43
sethkBytter_, what triggers it to flash?04:43
gum67oh, should have used sudo04:43
crimsungum67: you ran that as ''sudo modprobe snd-sb16'', correct?04:43
gum67nope04:43
gum67brb.04:43
Bytter_sethk : running it ;) startx04:43
{alejandro}good luck04:43
sethkBytter_, it just flashes periodically?04:44
crimsun{alejandro}: /proc/asound/cards contents?04:44
Bytter_sethk : it flashes with the greyish typical start screen, shows the cursor, and crashes...04:44
gum67Crimsun that came back without errors.04:44
Daveyanybody have any ideas what this means? http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=571904:44
Bytter_sethk : nope.. can't start up...04:44
sethkBytter_, what's in the X log?04:44
crimsungum67: good, cat /proc/asound/cards04:44
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Bytter_sethk two errors04:44
Bytter_sethk one about missing SecurityPolicy04:44
{alejandro}0 [rev70          ] : VIA8237 - VIA 823x rev7004:44
{alejandro}VIA 823x rev70 with ALC655 at 0xd400, irq 2204:45
Bytter_sethk /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy (the xserver dir doesn't even exist here)04:45
crimsun{alejandro}: in ''amixer'' output, you should see something (4) related to DXS at the bottom04:45
{alejandro}ok04:45
Bytter_sethk : and another one saying that FPE (/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc) refcount is 2, should be 104:45
sethkBytter_, yes, that directory is spurious.04:45
sethkBytter_, the second one is the one you care about04:46
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gum67Crimsun that came back with the info04:46
sethkDavey, that URL doesn't resolve04:46
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crimsun{alejandro}: if you do see those DXS items, then you probably need to use an ac97_quirk or a dxs_support parameter04:46
gum67crimsun the good info.04:46
gum67just like the old trusty creative labs sb16.04:46
{alejandro}crimsun amixer | grep dxs shows nothing04:46
crimsungum67: ok, and ''amixer'' output onto paste.ubuntu-nl.org?04:46
sethkBytter_, refcount problems are usually programming errors.04:46
sethkBytter_, what's unusual about your configuration?04:46
{alejandro}don't see it either04:46
crimsun{alejandro}: grep -i, since DXS will be capitalised04:46
{alejandro}ah durr04:47
Bytter_sethk unusual? in xorg.conf?04:47
{alejandro}still nothing04:47
{alejandro}you need the breezy xserver04:47
sethkBytter_, in xorg.conf, in your hardware?04:47
{alejandro}Bytter_04:47
sethkBytter_, since this doesn't happen to everyone, I'm asking why it happens to you.04:47
sethkBytter_, for an error like that to occur you must be using something in X that isn't typically used.04:48
Bytter_sethk well.. I'm using an AMD64 3000+, a ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP8x, LCD monitor (Acer 17").... Asus Motherboard...04:48
crimsun{alejandro}: nothing as in there're no DXS strings?04:48
AzCowboyCan anyone help me with madwifi and wpasupplicant (or point me to a GOOD howto)?04:48
AzCowboyI can't get it to associate to an AP.04:48
sethkBytter_, amd64 is enough04:48
crimsunAzCowboy: AP config details?04:48
gum67Crimsun, i guess that worked.04:48
Bytter_sethk though I'm using the i386 installation04:48
{alejandro}crimsun yeah04:48
AzCowboyWPA PSK, TKIP04:48
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sethkBytter_, oh, then forget that  :)04:49
Bytter_;)04:49
gum67Crimson will it 'just work' from now on?04:49
Daveysethk, you're kidding?04:49
AnnonKaiesZiDoes anyone know if ipw2200 works out of the box with Ubuntu?04:49
sethkBytter_, radeon drivers are known to be flakey, but I use the radeon drivers on one of my ubuntu boxes04:49
sethkDavey, no, I got a timeout, couldn't resolve the domain04:49
DaveyI use the fglrx drivers04:49
AzCowboycrimsun What else do you need to know about it?04:49
Bytter_sethk : I tried the "ati", "radeon", "fglrx" and "vesa"04:49
Bytter_none work04:49
{alejandro}Bytter_ the fglrx driver does NOT work on dapper04:49
{alejandro}the kernel hates it04:49
Daveyoh FUCK04:50
crimsunAzCowboy: ok, paste your /etc/default/wpasupplicant and (sanitised) /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf onto paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:50
DaveyGOD DAMMIT!04:50
Bytter_lol04:50
{alejandro}I know this from experience04:50
crimsunDavey: (language)04:50
Daveythey just took my box down to re-locate it to the new data-center :(04:50
Daveyit took me 20 minutes to type that crap out :/04:50
sethkBytter_, let me check on which is working on my radeon box.  although I don't think this is something as simple as using the wrong driver.04:50
crimsungum67: do you hear sound?04:50
{alejandro}it's the module04:50
crimsungum67: (from the sb16)04:50
gum67nope04:50
gum67crimsun nope04:50
Bytter_yeah, I don't think that either...04:50
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l0s3rk1danyone kind enough to help me out?04:50
crimsungum67: url to amixer output?04:50
{alejandro}the fglrx module doesn't load in dapper sethk04:50
AnnonKaiesZiDoes anyone know if ipw2200 works out of the box with Ubuntu?04:50
crimsunAnnonKaiesZi: yes.04:50
gum67i don't follow that.04:50
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AnnonKaiesZiThanks, Crim.04:51
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crimsungum67: did you paste the output from the ''amixer'' command onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?04:51
sethkBytter_, my box with radeon/ubuntu is using "ati"04:51
l0s3rk1dhello i tried the ubuntu live cd.. ihad problems starting X .. error no screens found( i have pci-e graphic card)04:51
gum67nope04:51
{alejandro}sethk are you using breezy04:51
crimsungum67: that's a start.04:51
sethkBytter_, it's a 9600, although not the same 960004:51
sethk{alejandro}, yes04:51
tutuHi. is it legal to sell the presses cds that ship.ubuntu.com sends for free?04:51
{alejandro}sethk and Bytter my radeon 9600 didn't work under dapper04:51
{alejandro}sethk and Bytter the fglrx module won't load against the kernel04:52
sethk{alejandro}, interesting04:52
Bytter_yeah, I figured that out some days ago04:52
{alejandro}you gotta reinstall04:52
Madpilottutu: yes04:52
{alejandro}or downgrade04:52
Bytter_before the STUPID dist-upgrade04:52
tutuMadpilot: do you have an doc that says that?04:52
ArkticWolftutu: as fas as i know i don't think you can sell them for proffit04:52
sethkBytter_, which kernel are you using after the dist-upgrade?04:52
tutuwell. i couldn't find any that says that it is not legal.04:52
jahshuahttp://www.xchat.org/download/  which one of these could be used with kubuntu ?04:52
Madpilottutu: the GPL contains no commercial restrictions04:52
Bytter_2.6.15-804:52
Daveytutu, I imagine you'd get your ass kicked for doing it, but if you sell them for just a couple of bucks to friends and stuff, nobody will care ;)04:53
Madpilottutu: and Ubuntu is covered by the GPL04:53
tutuyes. i am not tlaking about a licensing issue04:53
sethkBytter_, I have one box on 2.6.14, but that's not the radeon box04:53
Daveytutu, the CD label etc is not under the GPL :)04:53
{alejandro}yeah04:53
AzCowboycrimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/584404:53
{alejandro}Bytter try booting in 2.6.1204:53
{alejandro}you can get it in the repositories04:53
{alejandro}tell me how that works04:54
tutubut ubuntu is sending them for free.. and other people are selling them even more expensive than a home made burned cd copy of any other distro04:54
Bytter_ok.. rebooting...04:54
tutuDavey: so you think it is not legal to sell them.04:54
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sethktutu, in most places you can legally sell anything at all, providing that you own it.  You can't make any representations w.r.t. intellectual property, but you can sell the cd itself04:55
tutuwell, it has to say something on the CD.04:55
tutuwell. there is a guy in the local ebay selling ubuntu. and also selling 50+ cds.04:55
tutuso.. ubutu sent that to them no to resell them.04:56
crimsunAzCowboy: you still need the -c parameter in /etc/default/wpasupplicant04:56
{alejandro}I would think that you could sell them04:56
{alejandro}you can sell debian04:56
crimsunAzCowboy: err, I see it, n/m04:57
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crimsunAzCowboy: note that you should only have one uncommented OPTIONS= line04:57
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AzCowboyThere is only one. the last line.04:57
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{alejandro}golly Davey04:58
{alejandro}Jesus wouldn't approve04:58
crimsunAzCowboy: your paste shows two, the first of which is incomplete (hence my comment regarding -c )04:58
Daveyjesus can suck my balls :P04:58
mburnsWhere can i find the background picture for ubuntu (as a joke) of a naked girl on a bench?04:58
{alejandro}I really wanna call myself Goliath right now but I don't have the heart04:59
crimsunAzCowboy: it's probably just a cutoff04:59
mburnsit might have been posted on digg, but i can't find it04:59
crimsunAzCowboy: anyhow, it looks like you need the pairwise=TKIP and group=TKIP parameters in your active network={} stanza04:59
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BytterLOOLOLOLOL04:59
BytterBooted 2.4.1204:59
Byttercouldn't find /dev/md004:59
Bytterrebooted with 2.6.15-805:00
Bytterand X star05:00
Bytterstarted05:00
Bytterloool05:00
DaveyOK, it looks like my USB is toast. or something. grr05:00
{alejandro}wacky05:00
Daveywonder if I unplugged something by accident :/05:00
{alejandro}that's insane05:00
Bytterit's the first time I see a window-like reboot-it behaviour05:00
{alejandro}and delightful05:00
Bytterok, i'm now oficially running dapper-head05:01
sethktutu, ubuntu can, of course, say anything it likes.  And it won't authorize the sale of the intellectual property.  However, anyone can still sell a CD.05:01
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gum67Crimsun can i /msg ?05:01
sethktutu, and there is nothing ubuntu or anyone else can do about it.05:01
crimsungum67: keep it in here05:01
Bytterthankx for the support {alejandro} , sethk , guys...05:01
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{alejandro}bitte05:01
tutuseth_k: i know. it drives me crazy.05:01
gum67crimsun, since you suggested the bug report, i guess i've used up your patience ?05:02
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KeithWeissharhow do i upgrade openoffice beta 2 to openoffice final in ubuntu05:02
gum67i did this 2 weeks ago.05:02
AzCowboyFixed the cutoff line in my paste, crimsun... the second options line is in the other file... don't know why it's in both files?05:02
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crimsungum67: bug report? when did I suggest that?05:02
MadpilotKeithWeisshar: the easiest way is to wait for Dapper release in April...05:02
Linuturkrobotgeek, are you still here?05:02
CaptainMorganfor Breezy, how do you mount /media/windows to read? I tried sudo cd /media/windows to get in but it won't let me. 'cd: command not found'05:02
BytterKeithWeisshar or configure synaptic to use dapper :D05:02
gum67crimsun the output of something to a url.05:03
CaptainMorganand write?05:03
crimsunAzCowboy: ok, so the pairwise=TKIP and group=TKIP are in that network stanza now?05:03
Bytterdunno if openoffice final are in breezy-backports, though...05:03
gum67crimsun, i didn't understand that.05:03
ishtvan22ive been testing my dvd drive because it has been skipping alot05:03
jahshuahttp://www.xchat.org/download/  which one of these could be used with kubuntu ?05:03
ishtvan22hdparm -tT /dev/dvd returns Timing buffered disk reads:  read() failed: Input/output error05:03
AzCowboycrimsun yes.05:03
Bytterjahshua : don't download them05:03
ishtvan22when there is a dvd in the drive05:03
Bytterjahshua : use synpatic instead05:03
crimsunAzCowboy: then restart wpasupplicant and reup ath005:03
ishtvan22but with a cd it works05:03
KeithWeissharshould i download the kubuntu cd to switch to kde05:03
Byttersynaptic*05:03
crimsungum67: amixer?05:03
KeithWeisshari only have the standard ubuntu cd05:03
crimsungum67: in a Terminal, type: amixer05:04
Madpilotjahshua: XChat should be installed by default - it is w/ Ubuntu, no idea about Kubuntu...05:04
ishtvan22any ideas?05:04
crimsungum67: then paste that output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:04
regeyaKeithWeisshar, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:04
{alejandro}irssi is also there05:04
crimsungum67: hurry please, I have to leave in 5 minutes05:04
{alejandro}if you don't have xchat you can use irssi05:04
{alejandro}in the terminal05:04
Bytterok05:04
Bytterguys05:04
Bytteri'm going to get some sleep... 4Am here05:04
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KeithWeissharis kubuntu available as a dvd05:04
Byttertake care :D05:04
{alejandro}rolly05:04
CaptainMorganI can never get irssi working... never connects...05:04
{alejandro}prolly05:04
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{alejandro}but it is the same as the cd05:04
{alejandro}only it is a dual live/install cd05:05
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regeyapmwiki looks so nice.  too bad it doesn't use a semi-standard markup.05:05
Daveypmwiki?05:05
CaptainMorganfolks, how do I get in /media/win ? cd command is not found...05:05
{alejandro}KeithWeisshar just use the cd because the dvd is a livecd/install combo05:05
AzCowboycrimsun Doesn't appear to have helped... it's not pulling an IP, and when I use iwconfig, it shows the ssid for a bit, but no mac id for the AP, then it starts scanning the freqs.05:05
Davey{alejandro}, he might only have DVD-R(W)'s spare05:05
Linuturkrobotgeek, i'm running from a live cd on my newer laptop and using another laptop to chat here. I should be able to follow directions w/o leaving. i tried to find the readme file in the directory you specified, but gunzip couldn't open the readme.debian.gz file. Perhaps you can talk me through it?05:05
Daveyin which case you can't burn a CD ISO to it :/05:05
crimsunAzCowboy: / gum67: ok, I have to go; I'll be back in 15 minutes.05:05
Linuturkor anyone else, if he's afk?05:06
KeithWeisshardoes the dvd have extra packages05:06
{alejandro}no05:06
angstyI've been looking all over the forums for help on this, but found nothing useful... every time I try to install 5.10, it gets up to a dialog saying "setting up partitions..." then it goes to a blue screen with a grey line at the bottom and stays there. I left it on all night, nothing changed.05:06
{alejandro}I wish it did05:06
{alejandro}but it doesn't05:06
angstyit doesn't get far enough for me to actually choose what partition I want to use05:06
otepangsty: borked cd?05:06
Linuturkis there a cd or dvd that can be downloaded that has all the packages on it?05:06
angstynope, checked the integrity of the cd05:06
angstyno problems with it05:07
tdnOne last thing for today... Which package do I need to install to get the most optimized kernel for my CPU? I have a Pentium M.05:07
{alejandro}Linuturk I suppose you could make one05:07
DaveyHey angsty ! :)05:07
spanglesontoasterm why doesn't my serial port mouse work05:07
spanglesontoastin ubuntu05:07
Linuturkalejandro, how about my other question?05:07
angstyI've tried doing it a few different ways.. I have an ext3 partition preformatted that I was going to use, it didn't work that way05:07
angstyand I tried it with an unformatted partition, same situation05:07
{alejandro}Linuturk, the one for robogeek?05:08
{alejandro}can ou repeat it05:08
Linuturkyes05:08
{alejandro}because it don't make sense05:08
CaptainMorgansorry, nm, found the 5.10 docs..05:08
Linuturkrobotgeek, i'm running from a live cd on my newer laptop and using another laptop to chat here. I should be able to follow directions w/o leaving. i tried to find the readme file in the directory you specified, but gunzip couldn't open the readme.debian.gz file. Perhaps you can talk me through it?05:08
{alejandro}are you installing from livecd05:08
Linuturkbasically, we were trying to get my MN-520 to work05:08
{alejandro}why not install cd05:08
Linuturkmy wireless card05:08
{alejandro}?05:09
Linuturki want to get my card working before I shrink my windows install and all that mess05:09
{alejandro}ahhhhhh05:09
{alejandro}ok05:09
sethkangsty, I had something similar that I worked around.  What happens exactly?  I didn't get the first part of what you were saying.05:09
siriusnovaanyone run Ubuntu on a 1Ghz machine?05:09
KeithWeissharshould i download the kubuntu cd if i already have the ubuntu cd05:09
Linuturki have a harddrive install on a old machine, but it runs way to slow (233 mhz)05:09
sethksiriusnova, yes, why?05:09
{alejandro}do you know where the driver is linuturk05:09
tdnIt looks like linux-686 is only for PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV. Is this the same I should use for Pentium M? (I have an IBM Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M and Centrino)05:09
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siriusnovasethk - how does it run? im thinking of buying a thinkpad t23 (1.12ghz) to run Ubuntu05:10
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sethktdn, pentium M has a separate entry in the kernel processor configuration setting05:10
angstysethk it just uh, it dies05:10
angstyon the installation part where it sets up partitions05:10
Linuturkalejandro, robotgeek linked me to a tutorial for a usb wireless drive, but i hit a brick wall05:10
spanglesontoasterm does anyone know why my serial port mouse doesn't work with ubuntu05:10
angstyI'm assuming it's dying trying to detect what partitions I already have05:10
sethksiriusnova, I find it adequate as long as I don't load it up with a million programs.  Use a low resource desktop, perhaps fluxbox05:10
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sethkangsty, do you have SATA, or promise IDE?05:11
tdnsethk, is there no package for it? Am I forced to use the default 386 or compile my own from source?05:11
wumingwhy there is no where in ubuntu05:11
angstywhat's promise ide05:11
robotgeekLinuturk: sorry, i gotta go05:11
{alejandro}Linuturk link me to it and tell me where you hung05:11
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sethktdn, I guess not, about the package.  But installing the kernel source and changing that one parameter and rebuilding the kernel is very easy.05:11
Linuturkrobotgeek, it's ok05:11
robotgeek{alejandro}: /usr/share/docc/llinux-wlan-ng-doc05:11
robotgeek{alejandro}: readme.debian or something05:12
Linuturkrobotgeek, i couldn't open that file05:12
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robotgeekLinuturk: it's a directory05:12
tdnsethk, yes. I know... But it takes a lot of time (compiling several megs of code) and I'm on my way to bed :)05:12
Linuturkno, the readme.debian.gz05:12
sethktdn, start the compile and go to bed.  when you wake up, it's done.  :)05:12
{alejandro}Linuturk I don't have it05:13
wumingwhere is the "where" command?05:13
angstyI have .... one hdd on my primary ide, dvd drive on secondary, and then a pci->ide adapter card for two other ide drives, as well as a pci->scsi drive on an adapter card05:13
sethkwuming, it's a shell built in05:13
{alejandro}Linuturk sorry :(05:13
Linuturki tried gunzip, but i got a permission denied. even after i changed the permissions to allow me to open it05:13
wumingsethk: but not in my shell...confused05:13
intelikeyirssi help anyone know how to remove the timestamps ?05:13
angstythe partition I wanted to install it on is on one of the drives attached to the adapter05:13
sethkwuming, which shell are you using?  (Not a recursive use of which)05:13
angstybut it's not even detecting my primary drive, so I'm not sure if switching them around would help much05:14
Linuturkis there a way to download the linux-wlan-ng package and install it from a usb stick?05:14
robotgeekLinuturk: zless05:14
tdnsethk, well... The download takes a lot of time on my net, so my plan was to download the package over the night.05:14
wumingsethk:bahs05:14
wumingbash05:14
robotgeek{alejandro}: apt-get install linux-wlan-ng-doc05:14
sethkangel2, can you disconnect the PCI/IDE just for the purpose of getting the install going?05:14
sethkangel2, sorry05:14
sethkangel2, , can you disconnect the PCI/IDE just for the purpose of getting the install going?05:14
angstyheh05:14
sethkangsty, , , can you disconnect the PCI/IDE just for the purpose of getting the install going?05:14
sethkangel2, sorry again   (:05:14
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angstyyeah I guess I could fiddle around with that stuff05:15
angstyit's a pain though :|05:15
intelikeyirssi help anyone know how to remove the timestamps ?05:15
sethkangsty, it is, but I think in this case it is necessary05:15
ElitePetequestion: when dapper comes out will i have to reinstall or what?05:15
intelikeytime stamping is so ugly05:15
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angstyin the initial flurry of debug info, it appears to be detecting all the drives05:15
sethkangsty, yes.  On my box, there is a problem in the BIOS that forks ubuntu up during install if the PCI/IDE is enabled05:16
Linuturkalejandro, any luck getting the doc with apt-get?  Can we take this to query?05:16
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intelikeywhen i install apps on the live CD do i need to be ram concious/cautious ?05:17
angstyer, does that mean I can't use ubuntu at all if I use the pci->ide card?05:17
angstybecause that's not really an option.05:17
skorahey, I just upgraded from hoary to breezy and X broke :( [on my nvidia card] 05:17
angstyor is it just during install05:17
sethkangsty, after the install I used the PCI/IDE05:18
{alejandro}oh yeah sorry, I am doing other stuff05:18
angstyhm05:18
sethkangsty, it is just that partitioning step that has the problem, at least on my box.05:18
intelikeyDavey: why the case modifications ?  :)05:18
angstyok05:18
angstywell, I'm trying to get a dual-boot situation here05:18
skoraI checked on the forums on the nvidia guide, and they said I had to install the linux-headers file, but when I do that, I get unmet dependencies and it wont let me.05:18
Daveyintelikey, its either that of taking a gun to myself, and my wife says I'm not allowed to die.05:18
angstyat least until ubuntu has stable ntfs rw support05:18
Linuturkalejandro, do you accept query?05:18
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intelikeyDavey: si05:19
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wumingafter install php5, where  i can find the php command?05:19
sethkwuming, usually /usr/bin/php05:19
theCoreangsty, it will probably won't happen05:19
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Madpilotangsty: MS owns NTFS...05:20
angstyeven just auto-detecting of my drives and read-only support would be fine05:20
intelikeywuming: php<tab-key>05:20
ArkticWolfwuming: to find any file, run updatedb to refresh list, then locate <filename> to search05:20
angstyand I know it can handle read-only 'cause I did it before, just involved a lot of terminal ugliness05:20
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theCoreangsty, the terminal is not ugly05:20
intelikeywuming: then use 'which php<whatever> '05:21
wumingok05:21
angstyis too05:21
angstyit's not 1970 anymore05:21
sethkangsty, after the install, as long as the "detect off board IDE first" flag is not set, everything works.05:21
angstysethk ok05:21
sethkangsty, in fact, I think the problem is that detect offboard first is set in the install kernel.05:21
angstyI guess I'll try05:21
Madpilotangsty: there's a script somewhere that'll mount NTFS automagicially, I think - I'm Windows free, so I haven't looked into it05:21
sethkangsty, although that's just a theory.05:21
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avenhelp!05:21
intelikeywhat ArkticWolf said works too wuming05:21
angstyworst case scenario is I lose everything05:21
avenI accidently messed up my sudo05:22
avenI get the error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 005:22
sethkMadpilot, angsty after an install ubuntu has automatically set up NTFS partitions in fstab, and they are mounted at boot05:22
angstywhich will hurt for about a day and then I'll get over it05:22
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theCoreangsty, even in 2005, the terminal is an essential tool05:22
Avenanyone know what i need to do?05:22
fletch33evening all! i just configured wine and my software installed and runs great but i need the program i installed to connect to a usb device and it doesnt seem to be emabled in wine. can some tell me how to configure a usb serial bridge or how to make the usb device work in wine05:22
AvenI *do* know my root password05:22
sethkMadpilot, so you don't have to do anything at all, unless (like me) you want to stop them from mounting automatically.05:22
sethkMadpilot, then you just add noauto to fstab, and presto, you are done.05:22
nickrudAven, chown root:root /etc/sudoers as root05:22
sethkAven, about what?05:22
intelikeyAven: as root chown root:root /etc/sudoers05:22
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Avenchown: changing ownership of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted05:23
intelikeyi lag.05:23
Avenbut I can't use sudo05:23
Avenso I'm not able to use root05:23
Avenand ubuntu doesn't let me login with root05:23
intelikeyaven you said you know the root password.05:23
AvenI do05:23
nickrudAven, su root05:23
nickrudAven, in a terminal :)05:23
jsubl2su - root05:23
Avenbash: /bin/su: Permission denied05:23
AvenI know...05:23
intelikeythen su -    and type the root password05:24
sethkAven, you really don't want to change the permissions on that file.05:24
Madpilotsethk: interesting - I'll keep that in mind if I ever use NTFS again :)05:24
fletch33anyone help me get a usb com port working in wine05:24
sethkAven, why do you think you need to do that?05:24
Aven...05:24
Avenall I'm saying is that I get: bash: /bin/su: Permission denied05:24
nickrudsethk, he already has, needs to fix it05:24
Avener, I mean05:24
intelikeyah you will have to boot single mode aven05:24
sethknickrud, ah05:24
AvenI get: sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 005:24
sethkAven, what intelikey said, or boot a rescue cd (which is really the same thing)05:24
Avenwhen I type 'sudo -s -H'05:24
sethkAven, indeed, that's why you shouldn't have changed it in the first place.  :)05:25
Avenhow do I boot single mode?05:25
nickrudreboot, and select recovery mode05:25
Avenhow?05:25
intelikeyaven add 1 to the boot args05:25
Avenas in, what key would I have to hit?05:25
intelikeyE05:25
sethkAven, in grub, do e, for edit05:25
sethkthen edit the command line (which is another e, I believe)05:26
sethkput the "1"' at the end, enter, the b for boot05:26
nickrudnow that's where grub does have it over lilo05:26
skorahi, can anyone help me with a problem with X starting up after I upgraded from hoary to breezy, I searched the forums, to no avail :/05:26
intelikeynickrud: hows that ?05:26
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Avenwhat's grub?...05:26
nickrudediting the kernel boot line05:26
intelikeynickrud: bull.05:26
theCoreAven, lol, it's the bootloader05:26
wumingthat does not work05:27
crimsungum67: / AzCowboy: any luck?05:27
nickrudintelikey, lilo allows one to modify the boot parameters at bootup?05:27
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sethkAven, what you stuff in your mouth when you are hungry05:27
Avenquestion, is there a way to change my uid using the command line?05:27
sethknickrud, lilo?  no.05:27
AzCowboycrimsun Nope.05:27
Avensethk: shit?05:27
AzCowboyStill beating on it.05:27
intelikeylilo is so easy you don't even have to hit e  just slect the system to boot and start typing the args you want to pass then enter nickrud05:27
crimsunAzCowboy: ok, need -dd output05:27
sethkAven, you've been having breakfast with my ex-wife?05:28
nickrudintelikey, I used lilo for years and never picked that up :)05:28
intelikey:)05:28
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Avenhm, so is there a way to change uid permissions using the command line?05:29
intelikeyaven no05:29
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sethkAven, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but whatever it is, the answer is surely no.05:29
Avensudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 005:29
intelikeyor should i say we surely hope there isn't.  Aven  cause if there is. linux is borked fubar05:30
Avenit says 'uid' really...05:30
sethkAven, Actually, I think you may be able to do this:    sudo chown root:root /etc/sudoers05:31
Avenhahaha05:31
AvenI told you, I can't use sudo05:31
nickrud:)05:31
Aventhat's the whole point of this problem :P05:31
mustard5Aven, you need to login with a root prompt05:31
sethkAven, (everyone close your ears) do su, and put in the root password05:31
Avenand how do I do that?05:31
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intelikeylol maybe ignoring sethk would help........05:31
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Avenbash: /bin/su: Permission denied05:31
Aven :P05:31
AzCowboycrimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/584605:31
mustard5Aven, you got a live CD?05:32
sethkAven, single user or rescue cd boot are your options.05:32
Avennope :\05:32
sethkAven, or live cd boot, same thing05:32
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dracflamlochey folks. how can i get fluxbox to integrate with ubuntu so the menus are updated and such?05:32
sethkAven, download one05:32
intelikeyaven just boot to single user mode and fix it.05:32
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sethkAven, or do this:   control-alt-f1    that should give you a login console.  login as root05:32
Avenintelikey: on startup, I just hit 'e' and usermode is there?05:32
mustard5Aven, ok..you on breezy?  The rescue mode instructions are in the help menu in the ubuntu starters guide05:33
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Siph0nhey05:33
dracflamlocanyone??05:33
mustard5hey Siph0n05:33
Siph0nneone ever get a message saying that their file system is full? but its not? :)05:34
Siph0nKlibido is telling me it is full....05:34
Siph0ndf -h tells me i have 27Gb available though05:34
intelikeyaven you hit e and sleect the system to boot then hit e and add the number one '1' to the kernel args and boot.  when booted you will be root.  type 'chown root:root /etc/sudoers && init 6 '05:34
sethkSiph0n, you have only one partition?05:34
Siph0nyup....05:34
{alejandro}night all05:34
crimsunAzCowboy: please paste your sanitised /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf05:34
Siph0nsethk, 2 hard drives, one for windows, one for ubuntu,..... and ubuntu has 27GB free it says :(05:35
sethkSiph0n, could it be using a ramdisk?05:35
Siph0nsethk, i dunno.... how i find out?05:35
sethkSiph0n, when it is running, you can do:   df -h     which will show you all mounted partitions.05:35
AzCowboycrimsun : Still there at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/584505:36
sethkSiph0n, it's also possible that the program is dumb, and displays that message for all disk errors.  (I've seen that.)05:36
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Siph0nsethk: yea i was thinking the same thing with the program being dumb.... tempfs shows 500MB and 400MB free... ill try reinstallin the program.. cause it worked fine before...05:36
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intelikeyah dumb apps.   we like those....  that's why we use(i better shut up right there)05:37
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crimsunAzCowboy: you need to use ''wpa_passphrase ssid ascii_passphrase'' to generate the hex representation of your ascii passphrase, and then place that in psk= without the "s05:38
crimsunAzCowboy: moreover, you need pairwise=TKIP and group=TKIP05:38
Siph0nsethk, actaully, it just says there was an error writing to disk, and that probally i am out of space05:39
Siph0ni dunno... ill try and fix it later....05:39
AzCowboyBeen there, done that.05:39
AzCowboyI'll try it again, though.05:39
intelikeyraphink: you leave the T out of your nick ?05:39
sethkSiph0n, that's often a permissions error.  Trying to write to a directory where it doesn't have write privileges05:40
raphinkintelikey: sorry?05:40
raphinksethk: look on #ubuntu-motu05:40
crimsunAzCowboy: I presume this is with Breezy?05:40
raphinkbrb taking a shower05:41
AzCowboySee all the network sections that are commented out? They worked flawlessly before.05:41
sethkraphink, hold on...05:41
AzCowboyDapper drake05:41
raphinkI'm in a rush05:41
crimsunAzCowboy: ugh05:41
raphinkneed to take a shower quick05:41
raphinkbrb05:41
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crimsunAzCowboy: are you using madwifi-ng?05:42
doubletwistAnyone here who uses ogg for their music? I need to know if anyone has info on re-encoding or transcoding an ogg file to a lower bitrate.05:42
crimsunAzCowboy: if so, you're supposed to be using -Dwext, not -Dmadwifi05:42
doubletwistI can't seem to find anything useful via google. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms though.05:42
crimsunAzCowboy: see my comments in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/changelog.Debian.gz05:42
doubletwistI know it is a "bad idea" but I want smaller ogg files so I can put as many as possible on my portable player for vacation.05:42
crimsundoubletwist: vorbis->vorbis is fine05:43
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doubletwistexcept oggenc won't take an ogg file as input.05:44
crimsundoubletwist: sounds a heck of a lot better than !vorbis<->vorbis05:44
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Travishey05:45
Travisanyone here know how to write shell scripts?05:45
crimsundoubletwist: decode it to stdout and pipe it to oggenc05:45
intelikeyTravis: ask05:45
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TravisI want a shell script that will ask for a username and password, then it will create a linux user with the username and password and a samba user with that username and password05:46
McScruffhi can anyone tell me how to fix the video- sound sync problem in firefox05:46
mindframeTravis, make it yourself possibly?05:47
mustard5McScruff, I'm seeing what I can find on the forum about it05:48
sethkTravis, for a very simple CLI without error checking, you can use the "read" command to get a line from the user05:48
TravisI have no clue how to write them05:48
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McScruffmustard5, me too05:48
sethkTravis, as in xyz=read05:48
TravisI am semi-new to linux05:48
Travisyeah05:48
intelikeyTravis: man useradd  for the switches  and what ever samba uses to add users.   then use read to get the input in the script.  it even has a switch for passwords so you dont see what you type in.05:48
sethkTravis, I'd be more inclined to do it in python.  Ultimately it would be well worth the extra few minutes of effort up front.05:48
Travisso theres no script out there like that?05:49
mustard5McScruff, this thread seems to have had a resolution towards the end.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2735905:49
mindframeanyone know what gdm uses to automount a usb hard drive?05:49
TravisI want my samba users to sync with my linux users05:49
McScruffty, i will read05:49
sethkTravis, there is an admin dialog for adding users, of course05:49
intelikeytravis you could write one in 2 minutes05:49
TravisI couldn't05:49
Travissomeone else could05:49
sethkmindframe, I'm not sure what you are asking.05:50
mindframeits not hard really dude05:50
sethkTravis, you could, you'll just have to devote some time to it.  Set aside an hour or so, and learn a bit about scripting.  Better, spend the hour with python.05:50
Travisyeah05:51
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mindframesethk: nevermind i just answered my own question by actually plugging in the power adapter to the usb hard drive05:52
mindframedurrrr05:52
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AlexWhey guys.  could some of you point me to the pages concerning ati drivers on ubuntu?  forgot to write the links down as i was switching over (too lazy to reboot into winders)05:52
AlexWsorry to be such a lazy slob05:52
mindframei <3 this laptop with fluxbox05:52
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mindframeeverything else is doodoo and makes it cry05:52
AzCowboySorry... minor family emergency.05:52
Madpilot!ati05:53
ubotuwell, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1005:53
AlexWthanks, ubotu.  just what i was looking for05:53
jbroome!botsnack05:53
ubotuthanks jbroome :)05:53
Madpilot!ubotu05:53
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.05:53
AlexWrofl05:54
AlexWpretty good bot :)05:54
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crimsunAzCowboy: (just as a heads-up, I'm not going to be online much longer tonight)05:55
intelikeyTravis: i never used samba so that part you will have to tweek but [starts here]  #!/bin/bash ;read -p 'enter the name' NAME ;read -sp 'enter the pass' PASSWD ;useradd -p $PASSWD $NAME ;sambasuseraddapp args [ends here] 05:56
tebariGuys I need some help. My computer sometimes freezes when booting into GDM.05:56
intelikeyfreezes ?    will [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]  still take you to a console or is it hung?05:57
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tebariintelikey,  it's hung05:58
AzCowboycrimsun Thank you for your help. If I can't get it I'll look for more help later on.05:59
moseshelp I think I'm infected with spyware!05:59
AzCowboyMeanwhile, the examples and things you've told me should help.05:59
McScruff[04:59]  <moses> help I think I'm infected with spyware! <<LOL, dont run windows then :P05:59
Agrajagmoses: this isn't the place for windows help05:59
McScruffLOL05:59
mosesoh sorry05:59
McScruffme and agrajag thinking alike05:59
intelikeytebari: and it only does that on occation ?06:00
mustard5I'm reading a thread in the forum where someguy is having a problem with playing DVD's with sound but the screen is black (no picture) anyone seen this problem before?06:00
intelikeytebari: search the bug list for same mess ?06:00
MaurIs there an image viewer for Ubuntu/Debian with support for descript.ion files?06:00
mosesdoes xine/mplayer/etc. playback wmv files06:00
mosesi'm actually not able to playback wmv videos in wmp06:01
Agrajagnot wmv906:01
Agrajagbut previous versions are fine06:01
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tiglionabbithow come when I say "loadkeys us" it says "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console" ?06:02
tebariintelikey, yes it's not constant. It normally happens after I update something wich is weird. I know it's not an X problem since I can load into "safe-mode" and do startx from there. I'm going to check out the bug list.06:02
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MootPoint!ati06:03
ubotu[ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:03
moseshuh apperently a open source codec for wmp9 exists06:03
sethktiglionabbit, usually that means it is running in the background06:04
intelikeyi need to kill a process on the live CD   is there any way ?06:04
binarydigitkill06:05
intelikeynope not even -906:05
binarydigitis it a zombie process06:05
moseshow the hell do people manage to reverse engineer something as complex as a video format06:05
mosesi wish i was that smart :(06:05
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calamarihi06:05
tiglionabbitsethk: what should I do about it?  I'd like to change my keyboard layout at the low level SDL seems to care about06:05
intelikeybinarydigit: well.... i don't know what you clasify zombie06:06
calamarianyone know of a fast dvd player for Linux?  ogle seems slow.   mplayer doesn't seem to play.. probably haven't set it up right yet06:06
sethktiglionabbit, did you try running it from a console logged in as root?  That is, control-alt-f1 to get to a console, log in as root, run it?06:06
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tiglionabbitsethk: it runs from console as a normal user, but not a console under X06:06
moses"Yes, now even MPlayer can play Windows Media Video 9 (WMV9) and WMA9 files. Get the CVS and fire it. I'm going to sleep.06:06
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tiglionabbitsethk: but I can't run the SDL program under console =P06:07
indigoshiftcan anyone here answer a graphics driver question...?06:07
intelikey'console under X' is called a 'terminal'06:07
sethktiglionabbit, ah, you can get a terminal window that thinks it is a console.06:07
calamariI was hoping for xine.. but that gives me segmentation fault06:07
tiglionabbitsethk: how do I do that?06:07
sethkin KDE there is a menu item for that.  There must be one for gnome, also06:07
sethktiglionabbit, it's an argument to the command to start the terminal program.06:07
tiglionabbitsethk: can you paste the command it calls?06:08
sethktiglionabbit, let me look on my machine running KDE, I'll see if I can find the command.06:08
tiglionabbitsethk: thanks.  You can just pull the launcher out of its menu and check its properties for the command06:09
intelikeybinarydigit: what do you call zombie process ?    it is messing my tty3 & 4 up, there are two of them.06:09
sethktiglionabbit, right, on the system that has the command.06:09
tiglionabbitmmhmm06:09
sethktiglionabbit, the problem is, the command is off the session menu on konsole, not off a system menu06:10
tiglionabbitoh06:10
tiglionabbitmaybe I'll just get konsole then06:10
sethktiglionabbit, that might be easier.06:10
tiglionabbitwhich kind of session is it?06:11
tiglionabbit=[  none of em work, same error06:12
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intelikeyam i the only one that boots a live cd, sets the root passwd, adds a user, init 1, userdel ubuntu, edits the inittab, init 3, and runs the live cd now in console only mode with no 'ubuntu' user ?06:12
DR_K13hihi06:12
tiglionabbitintelikey: why would you do that?06:13
intelikeyi guess i am.....06:13
Amaranthintelikey: I'd say "yes"06:13
Amaranthintelikey: Most people run the live cd to fix something or demo ubuntu06:13
intelikeyah cause i hate gnome with a purple passion.06:13
intelikey:)06:13
tiglionabbitintelikey: try k/xubuntu-desktop06:14
tiglionabbitor a server install06:14
intelikeythat would require installing ub tiglionabbit,  i don't like ub enough to install it.06:15
tiglionabbitaw06:15
tiglionabbitbut it has so much goodness06:15
tiglionabbitwhat do you use then?06:15
intelikeylike gnome ?06:15
intelikeyanother linux.06:15
tiglionabbitwhat's this gnome hate about anyway.  If you don't like it nobody's forcing you to use it.  There are other desktops out there06:15
intelikeynot going to start a distro war tho06:15
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tiglionabbityou can just tell us what distro it is06:16
shadeofgreywhat up ya'll?06:16
DR_K13use something else .06:16
intelikeyDR_K13: i do.06:16
AzCowboyThe most interesting thing to happen to me so far is to try to install a piece of software after installing kde 3.5 .... it uninstalled KDE in it's entirety.06:16
shadeofgreythanks very much to all the people that make ubuntu possible.  merry christmas / happy holidays06:16
DR_K13I like Flux06:16
AzCowboy:-p06:16
shadeofgreywhats Flux?06:16
AzCowboyOh... did I mention it messed up apt?06:17
tiglionabbitfluxbox desktop06:17
DR_K13FluxBox06:17
shadeofgreyooo06:17
intelikeyflux is ok.   twm works06:17
DR_K13its like blackbox06:17
shadeofgreywhats the website addy for that?06:17
DR_K13google06:17
sorsisin the name of fluxbox, blakbox sucksbox06:17
sorsislike xbox06:17
DR_K13true sosis06:17
DR_K13overheat box?06:17
tiglionabbitxbox 360 scratches discs06:18
sorsislousy games and crappdy dvd device06:18
tiglionabbithttp://dwl.xbox-scene.com/video/Xbox-360-Scratch-Disks3.wmv06:18
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DR_K13I tryed to play COD2 on Xbox 360 at compussr the other day.   It Crashed06:18
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DR_K13lol@ that movie06:19
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shadeofgreyanybody know where to find a GOOD sources.list file for going to dapper?06:19
TecnoVM64Anybody knows if I can find alsaconf somewhere on ubuntu??06:20
crimsunno, there is no alsaconf.06:20
tiglionabbitit's true though.  Llama.com made that vid, and they have a fix that involves pads http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/Refurbishing-the-HL-Xbox-360-DVD-Drive.htm06:20
mmiikkee12how can i get a list of all the packages i installed on a certain day?06:20
sorsisshadeofgrey: www.ubuntuguide.org06:20
TecnoVM64crimsun, not even a way to get it? :(06:20
intelikeyhmmm why couldn't i casper the running system to hd and setup lilo to boot streight into the img ?   would that work?06:21
crimsunTecnoVM64: why do you need it?06:21
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TecnoVM64crimsun, because i know that alsaconf restarts/reconfigures alsa in a bit, thing that i want to do because alsa likes to get messed up when i use skype.06:21
TecnoVM64crimsun, a way to restart alsa will be also good :)06:22
crimsunTecnoVM64: then you don't need alsaconf.06:22
crimsunTecnoVM64: you want: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload06:22
TecnoVM64crimsun, ohhh, will try that, thanks :)06:22
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gumpishHow do I skip a step in the installer? (5.04) It's "Testing network repository" even though there's no network connection...06:24
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mmiikkee12gumpish: expert install/06:24
BlueEaglegumpish: boot with expert06:24
mmiikkee12*?06:24
gumpish=[06:24
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BlueEagleat the boot prompt type expert instead of just hitting enter.06:25
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gumpishright06:25
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mmiikkee12and you get a menu iirc06:25
mmiikkee12(the old pos debootstrap06:26
gumpishIt's already installed all the packages, not gonna sit through that again - looks like it is finally timing out though - now it's testing security update repository =p06:26
BlueEaglegumpish: Ahh, at the boot process after installing?06:27
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intelikeygumpish to answer your question, you don't.   you can ^C the process but better to let it time out.06:30
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intelikeycause if one should hit ^C just as the error timed out and killed the installer in place ov the subprocess.....  "eeek  and what now" would be heard around the block06:32
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grshpri have a g3 ibook with ubuntu hoary and xfce running... i can not listen to cd's even though the cd-player recognizes them, and give them titles. any sudjestions on what could be wrong?06:34
BlueEaglegumpish: Which sound system is your cd player attempting to use? Is ESD started? Is arts started? Do you use OSS or ALSA drivers for your sound card?06:35
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BlueEaglegumpish: Sorry. Nick completer borked.06:36
BlueEaglegrshpr: Which sound system is your cd player attempting to use? Is ESD started? Is arts started? Do you use OSS or ALSA drivers for your sound card?06:36
BlueEaglegrshpr: I guess that the player is attempting to use ESD but ESD is not started.06:36
BlueEagle(ie. if you start Gnome instead of XFCE the player works)06:37
grshprBlueEagle: i can't choose anything like that with the cd-player.06:37
AzCowboyG'night, all.06:37
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BlueEaglenn azcowboy06:37
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grshprBlueEagle: only option i have is what cd device it should, and some themes.06:38
grshprBlueEagle: where would i start esd?06:38
goosewhere can i find a gcj compiled version of eclipse?06:38
gum67how does one install SSHD06:38
DR_K13whats the package to get my right mouse click to termal back?  I had it on warty06:38
grshprgum67: synaptic06:38
BlueEaglegrshpr: Is your CD-player physically hooked up to your sound card? (I've got little to no experience on macs but on IBM compatibles you need a wire in most cases).06:38
gum67grshpr ' what goes here ' ?06:39
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grshprgum67: use synaptic, search for sshd06:39
gum67oh, okay.06:39
BlueEaglegrshpr: Let me do some checks.06:39
gum67grshpr, and maybe Alsa or Oss ?06:39
eatnumber1hey06:39
grshprBlueEagle: i recently changed from gnome to xfce, so that might be part of my problem.06:40
grshprgum67: what do you mean alsa or oss?06:41
eatnumber1im having a problem: I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and it worked fine, but when ubuntu boots up now, it always says "failed to start the x server"06:41
grshpreatnumber1: what version of ubuntu? what kind of computer do you have?06:41
gum67grshpr also having sound problems, i solved it 2 weeks ago, but i forgot :(06:41
DR_K13found it sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal06:41
grshprgum67: ok06:41
eatnumber1its breezy on a compaq v2310us notebook06:41
gum67grshpr - SB 16 ISA06:41
gum67grshpr - hoary06:42
crimsungum67: I pinged you about an hour ago but never got a response06:42
gum67crimsun06:42
gum67sorry, i'm getting tired.06:42
grshpreatnumber1: does it stop after it say that, doesn't the x-server start?06:42
eatnumber1no06:43
gum67Crimsun: maybe start this again tomorrow, not to waste your time06:43
grshpreatnumber1: how many times have you tried to install it?06:43
eatnumber1it says the x server is disabled06:43
eatnumber1um twice, the first time the repartitioning of the hdd failed06:43
BlueEaglegrshpr: Well, the cd-player can use one of two methods for transferring sound from your cd-player to the sound card. One is to directly pipe the audio from the CD players aux out port to the sound cards aux in port. If that is the case adjusting the volume of your aux in might cure the problem.06:43
enosdoes tvout (ati) have to be clone mode always? and is there an easy way to switch between tv exporting & dual monitors?06:44
grshprBlueEagle: cd-player is the program you get with ubuntu hoary gnome, you realize that, right?06:44
BlueEaglegrshpr: The other method is to read the audiodata off the disc, transfer it over IDE/SCSI/SATA (or what ever bus is used) and send them to the soundcard over the PCI/ISA bus (or what ever the mac uses).06:44
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grshprBlueEagle: i try to play a music cd, in a working cd-rom.06:44
sethkBlueDevil, recent Macs use PCI06:45
eatnumber1any ideas?06:45
intelikeycommand that starts gnome ?06:45
BlueEaglegrshpr: In the latter case you need to adjust the volume of the DSP. Still Linux has got a couple of different ways to produce sound.06:45
grshprBlueEagle: and where would i do that? i have a sound-option where i have adjusted everything.06:47
BlueEaglegrshpr: The old (and in many respects obsolete) way is the open sound system (OSS). These are (afaik) no longer being developed. The new and "better way"(tm) is ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Arcitecture). These are the new drivers.06:47
grshprBlueEagle: could this be done from the terminal?06:47
intelikeyanyone in here know how gnome is called via gdm ?06:47
eatnumber1grshpr: any help?06:47
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grshpreatnumber1: so you get a message saying x-server is not started, and then it starts anyway?06:47
BlueEaglegrshpr: However since not all drivers support hardware mixing people have created sound daemons to do that (and other things). This is where ESD (Enlightnment Sound Daemon) and arts (not sure what that acronym is) come in.06:48
eatnumber1no06:48
eatnumber1it dosent start at all06:48
BlueEaglegrshpr: Now, if you attempt to play sound using ESD or arts and neither of these are running you will obviously not get any sound.06:48
eatnumber1it says it failed starting06:48
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eatnumber1and then says it is now disabled06:48
grshprBlueEagle: i can't adjust what to use any how.06:48
grshprBlueEagle: unless you can give me a nifty little command line to put in my terminal. :)06:49
BlueEaglegrshpr: Also if you attempt to use the OSS or ALSA drivers directly while EDS or arts is running you will find that /dev/dsp is already open and you will not be able to play sounds.06:49
techrushxubuntu-desktop seems ok but i dont like the file manager06:49
intelikeyuse gentoo06:49
grshpreatnumber1: if you had problems with partitioning, and now this, i would suggest to make a clean re-install, where you go through everything in detail. the install guide should help you.06:50
polpaktechrush: you can always install nautilus w/o using gnome (I think anyway)06:50
BlueEaglegrshpr: So what we need to do first is to determine wether or not EDS or arts are running. You can do this by the following commands: `ps aux|grep esd` and `ps aux|grep arts`06:50
intelikeyor gentoo techrush06:50
techrushwtf gentoo ?06:50
techrushthe distro ?06:50
grshprintelikey: ah, hall kaft, skit-portbaserat skrap. :D06:50
techrushor is that a file manager i dont know about06:50
grshprBlueEagle: ok06:50
intelikeywhat was it you said you didn't like techrush06:51
polpakthe file manager in xubuntu-desktop06:51
techrushthe file manager in the xubuntu-desktop (xfce)06:51
intelikeyyes it is a file manager.06:51
techrushic06:51
intelikeyapt-get install gentoo06:51
BlueEaglegrshpr: Did you find either ESD or arts running?06:52
grshprBlueEagle: neither one.06:52
polpaktechrush: gentoo kinda looks like ass though ;p06:52
BlueEagleok.06:52
grshprpolpak: what do you mean?06:52
grshprpolpak: how it look, is up to you.06:52
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BlueEaglegrshpr: When you right-click the CD player and choose "about" (if that menu pops up) does it say "CD Player 2.12.0" or similar?06:53
techrushyeah this looks goofy06:53
polpakgrshpr: we're talking about gentoo the file manager, not the distro06:53
techrushhaha i think id rather use the xfce one then this weird thing06:53
intelikeyyeah polpak if you want eyecandy use nautilious ?06:53
grshprBlueEagle: 2.10.1, hoary.06:53
grshprpolpak: my bad06:53
polpakgrshpr: np =)06:53
polpakintelikey: I like the eye candy. =)06:54
BlueEaglegrshpr: Does it also say "A CD player for Gnome"?06:54
grshprBlueEagle: you bet06:54
BlueEaglegrshpr: That leads me to believe that it uses ESD and will only work with ESD since there are no options to configure it otherwise. That leaves you with two choices.06:54
BlueEaglegrshpr: You can either choose to run ESD with xfce or you can choose to use anohter CD-player.06:55
grshprBlueEagle: now, ok.06:55
BlueEaglegrshpr: It is my experience that EDS is not very good with respects to latency so considering using arts might be a better choice even if installing it means installing quite a few KDE dependencies.06:55
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grshprBlueEagle: ok06:56
intelikeyor could it rely on a veriable like  $SOUND for what it uses..... ?06:56
_jasongrshpr, try running that program from the terminal but prefix it with aoss: aoss command-for-program06:56
_jasongrshpr, I haven't really been following but I guess you are using alsa?06:56
BlueEaglegrshpr: I am sorry if you thought I was being a bit long winded, but understanding how something works is key to finding out how to resolve it. :)06:56
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angstyok now it's freezing after I log in. shows a cursor, and the brownish-orange ubuntu thing, and then everything stops responding, caps-lock and all that don't change when I press them06:56
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grshprBlueEagle: thx for helping out06:57
BlueEaglegrshpr: np. :)06:57
angstywhy does ubuntu hate me06:57
_jasongrshpr, angsty nonsense06:57
_jasonoops06:57
_jasonjust for angsty there06:57
grshprBlueEagle: which leads me to another question, how do i install synaptic for xfce?06:57
angsty:|06:57
angstyis this a known problem, it freezing after login?06:58
nitinshantharamhey guys, where can i find a good tutorial on setting up a web/mail server, i know how to do it but i need some sort of guidence to do it properly - howtoforge is full of tutorials for ispconfig but i dont want o install ispconfig at the end, i want to do it by hand06:58
polpakgrshpr: apt-get install synaptic ?06:58
BlueEaglegrshpr: I would think that synaptic was already installed. :/06:58
grshprBlueEagle: it is, it is.06:58
BlueEaglegrshpr: Do you want it on a menu?06:58
grshprBlueEagle: you bet06:58
BlueEaglegrshpr: I don't remember. But there might be a menu editor for xfce. Try opening a terminal and type xfce and hit TAB twice. That should list all executable programs in the path starting with xfce. You might find something there.06:59
BlueEaglegrshpr: I haven't used xfce for ages. :)06:59
angstyI have no idea how to browse the forums or wiki or anything from a console07:00
grshprBlueEagle: alright.07:00
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angstyI am fairly amazed I managed to remember irssi :(07:00
BlueEagleangsty: You do not know how to read web pages?07:00
grshprBlueEagle: thx. just out of coriousity, what do you use?07:00
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angstyBlueEagle: not from this I don't07:00
intelikeythat's another thing,  why does ub require two tabs rather than one ?07:00
grshprangsty: links207:00
grshprangsty: lynx07:00
angstyalso I uh don't know how to multitask.07:01
angstyI seem to remember something about 'screen' but I dunno.07:01
BlueEagleangsty: ALT+F1 trough F607:01
BlueEagleangsty: Will give you access to six consoles.07:01
BlueEagle:)07:01
angstythat brought me to a blank screen07:01
angstywith a blinking cursor that didn't let me input anything :<07:01
BlueEagleangsty: Did you start linux with runlevel 1?07:02
intelikeythat's ubuntu for you.07:02
angstynow how in the hell would I know to do that07:02
BlueEagleangsty: :)07:02
theconartistwhere do i disable the nautilus desktop07:02
grshprangsty: gosh07:02
BlueEagleangsty: Let me rephrase: How did you get to where you are now?07:02
grshprangsty: get a grip :D07:02
angsty:<07:03
angstyI pressed esc on startup07:03
angstyto get into 'recovery mode'07:03
angstyand then I typed: irssi07:03
BlueEagleangsty: Ok, then you probably are at runlevel 1 and have got no multitasking availible.07:03
angstyok07:03
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DaveyBlueEagle, screen works there, right?07:04
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BlueEagledavey: Screen does indeed work in runlevel 1.07:04
intelikeyyes you do   'openvt -c 2 bash07:04
angstymostly what I want is to get out of this bloody console and back into the 21st century07:04
intelikeyand 'openvt -c 3 bash '07:04
angstyexcept that ubuntu won't start.07:04
BlueEagleangsty: We're working on it. As intelikey sais. Quit irssi and type openvt -c 2 bash07:05
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angstyok07:05
angstywhat should I do after taht07:05
Linuturkwhy is edubuntu different from ubuntu ?07:05
BlueEaglethat should open a second console.07:05
intelikeyyou don't even have to quit irssi07:05
grshprget back here07:05
BlueEagleangsty: after that get back here. :)07:05
intelikeylisten07:05
angstyswitchable through alt+f1/f2?07:06
BlueEagleintelikey: /exec?07:06
BlueEagleangsty: Yes.07:06
BlueEagleangsty: before you quit:07:06
intelikey /exec openvt -c [2-6]  bash07:06
angstyok07:06
angstyit says 'couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console'07:06
intelikeyor 2-12 for that matter.....07:06
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intelikeyfile discripter hmmmmm07:07
grshprBlueEagle: yeah, i didn't have esd running.07:07
BlueEaglegrshpr: :)07:07
grshprBlueEagle: i started that through the terminal: esd, whipps, everything is working.07:07
DR_K13I had to reboot my server after 144 days, I am so sad07:07
DR_K13lol07:08
grshprDR_K13: wtg07:08
grshprBlueEagle: now, if i want to have that running all the time, what do i do?07:08
intelikeyin single user mode i know that openvt works i just used an hour ago but i don't know it there is anything special about "recovery" mode ......07:08
DR_K13that was a record for the old girl07:08
BlueEaglegrshpr: There you go. Now as I said I think it might be prudent to invesigate using another CD-player or the arts shound system because esd is not always very fast nor very clever.07:08
angstymm07:09
angstywell, back to my original question: is there any known/common problems with ubuntu freezing right after the login screen?07:09
BlueEaglegrshpr: Let me check that.07:09
angstythe only hardware I have installed right now are my lan card, video card, dvd drive and one hdd07:10
angstyI was thinking maybe it's trying to play some cute audio file and dying for lack of audio card07:10
angstybut I don't know.07:10
BlueEagleangsty: borked xorg.conf in most cases. Might be a wrongly detected (usb?) keyboard and/or mouse. Might be an USB port that hasn't been reset properly. Might be any number of drivers not working correctly due to mis-detected hardware. Sound might be the problem but I haven't seen a case where it's taken the whole system down.07:11
intelikeyno it should just output that to null and go on07:11
intelikeynow usb will hang one out to dry07:11
_jasonangsty, doubt this is your problem but check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDateBug07:11
angstythe keyboard was working fine up to that point, and it's ps/207:11
angstybut the mouse is usb07:12
angsty:|07:12
angstythink you could summarize the date bug for me?07:12
intelikeyangsty: when it hangs un/re-plug the mouse and see if it changes.07:12
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_jasonangsty, is the date on your computer before 1970?07:13
angsty_jason: I don't think so07:13
BlueEaglegrshpr: You can edit the file (or create it if it does not already exist) /etc/X11/Xsession.d/startup-local07:13
_jasonangsty, type 'date'07:13
angsty200507:13
grshprBlueEagle: OK! :)07:13
BlueEaglegrshpr: Then add a line which reads: esd &07:13
_jasonangsty, k, next on the list :)07:13
BlueEaglegrshpr: That should start esd whenever you log in (I think)07:14
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BlueEaglegrshpr: you may have to sudo to be able to write that file07:14
grshprBlueEagle: uhm, i just put esd in the file then?07:15
_jasonangsty, try this to see if you can log in: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94992&highlight=brown+screen+death07:15
angstyI have to figure out how to view that first07:15
BlueEaglegrshpr: You also need to make it executable with: sudo chmod 755 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/startup07:15
_jasonangsty, lol oh yeah, one sec07:15
BlueEaglegrshpr: esd &07:15
intelikeyw3b http://url07:15
grshprBlueEagle: ok07:16
grshprBlueEagle: thx07:16
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BlueEaglegrshpr: You need the '&' character to tell esd to start in the background. If you leave it out xfce won't start until eds is finished.07:16
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BlueEaglegrshpr: You might also need to make it executable07:16
_jasonangsty, want to join me in #flood so I don't spam the channel?07:16
BlueEaglegrshpr: You do that with: sudo chmod 755 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/startup-local07:16
angstyok07:16
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BlueEaglegrshpr: This is all from memory so forgive me if I get it wrong. :)07:16
GlabberfastedHello. I am very new to the Linux platform and my kernel is compiling on another console. How long does that process usually take, it's been that way for about 20 minutes now...07:17
TweekHello, I'm having a problem installing breezy it stalls then goes _really_ slow at 6% installing base system07:17
intelikeyon angsty try /exec openvt -fc 2 bash and see if it opens tty2 for you.07:17
Tweekany ideas? :<07:17
intelikeyi forgot to force it while ago.07:17
GlabberfastedIs it normal for a kernel to take so long to compile?07:17
Tweeksome times07:18
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GlabberfastedIs daar suid-afrikaanse peeps in die huis?07:18
GlabberfastedGuess not.07:18
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Tweeknope07:19
GlabberfastedWell, yeah... how long does a kernel usually take to compile?07:19
TweekGlabberfasted, you're the first person I've ever seen speak afrikaans07:19
intelikeysuid-af  or locale-af  ??07:19
Tweek:P07:19
GlabberfastedTweek: And badly too ;)07:19
Tweekheh07:19
DR_K13days  in gentoo stage 107:19
DR_K13dont feel bad07:19
zpartaif i am gonna build kernel 2.6.14 from source with make-kpkg do i have to install new headers or should i leave as is ?07:19
Tweekit is such a weird language :<07:19
GlabberfastedTweek: Well... I don't think so.07:20
GlabberfastedIt's out heritage.07:20
GlabberfastedAnd I am proud of it.07:20
Tweekwhere are you from?07:20
GlabberfastedIn any case Tweek, do you have any idea how long a kernel usually takes to compile?07:20
GlabberfastedI'm from Johannesburg.07:21
Tweek45mins tops on a amd 2200+07:21
DR_K13depends on your comp07:21
Tweekgive or take07:21
GlabberfastedAhh... so it's going to take an hour on my sempron07:21
GlabberfastedWhere are you from Tweek?07:21
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intelikey6 days on a 8048607:21
TweekThe U.S :p07:21
Glabberfastednot South African?07:21
Tweeknope07:21
Glabberfasted...07:22
GlabberfastedYou answered my question though!07:22
Glabberfasted:p07:22
GlabberfastedIt was in afrikaans.07:22
Tweekso? :P07:22
Glabberfastedhah. whatever.07:22
TweekI don't speak it nor have I studied it07:22
Glabberfasteddagga in die kop, wat gaan jy doen? :)07:22
Tweekdon't understand that :D07:22
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GlabberfastedI said, you're smoking dope so I guess I can't do anything about it.07:23
GlabberfastedStill, surprising that you new what language I was speaking.07:23
Tweekna07:23
GlabberfastedDid you know the guy that created Ubuntu, Mark Shuttleworth, is a South African?07:24
TweekI didn't know that07:24
Tweekthanks for the information07:24
BlueEaglegrshpr: Did you ever look at http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Xubuntu-7607.shtml ?07:24
GlabberfastedThat sounded sarcastic ;)07:24
_jasonI'm off to bed, if that guy angsty returns and he was able to start X, please forward him this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94992 thanks07:24
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angstyok07:24
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angsty_jason, thank you07:25
TweekGlabberfasted, it wasn't07:25
_jasonoh your back, did it work?07:25
angstythat worked07:25
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_jasonangsty, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9499207:25
GlabberfastedTweek: Okay. We're pretty proud of him too, he was the first South African in space and he even created the web-technology VeriSign.07:25
_jasonangsty, you probably need to install the appropriate drivers for your card now, what kind of card do you have?07:25
Tweek:<07:25
stravhe. all, anyone can get a hand on MagickWand 6.2.4 (seems to be necessary for adding imagemagick module to php)07:25
intelikeyso running the live cd all i need to do to shut down is press the power button.    i like that.   heck with software shutdowns.07:26
angstyI don't even remember07:26
angstyATI x800 or something like that07:26
angstyhad an x in it.07:26
TweekGlabberfasted, he has a nice resume :p07:26
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_jasonubotu, tell angsty about ati07:26
Glabberfastedhehehe...07:26
_jasonangsty, search the forums for your problem, it is commonly referred to as the "brown screen of death"07:26
GlabberfastedWell, thanks for the assist.07:26
angstyok07:26
zpartaif i am gonna build kernel 2.6.14 from source with make-kpkg do i have to install new headers or should i leave as is ?07:26
Glabberfastedgoeie naand07:27
_jasonangsty, I'm off to bed now, gl07:27
Glabberfasted[good night] 07:27
Glabberfastedquit07:27
TweekGlabberfasted, how old is the afrikaans language?07:27
zpartaread two howtos and both say different things07:27
GlabberfastedTweek: It's as old as our culture.07:27
intelikey /quit07:27
Moodles`What is ubuntu/linux equivelent of the windows startup folder from the start menu?07:28
Moodles`cd ..07:28
stravrepositories  (multiverse and universe for imagemagick) goes as fas as 6.2.307:28
BlueEaglemoodles`: There really isn't any real equivalent.07:28
Moodles`whoops07:28
BlueEaglemoodles`: Are you using gnome?07:28
Moodles`yeah07:29
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BlueEaglemoodles`: Hang on and I'll boot gnome here...07:29
Moodles`i can go through the terminal, just wondering where i can load programs automatically at startup like folding at home07:29
Nameeater_NVIDIA installer says that I needed 3.4 as thats what my kernel was compiled with, so i apt-get'd that and it said something about linking it with the CC enviroment something, how do I do that?07:29
Moodles`dir07:29
Moodles`argh07:29
Nameeater_needed gcc 3.4*07:29
TweekDoes anyone know why my breezy install freezes at 6%?07:30
Moodles`its confusing having 2 monitors in front of you07:30
KyralNameeater_: export CC=gcc-2.407:30
Kyralthen run it07:30
Nameeater_Moodles: dual-head is great ;p07:30
Nameeater_thanks Kyral07:30
DaveyMoodles`, System > Preferences > Session > Startup Programs07:30
Moodles`Tweek: I had a problem like that, turned out to be a faulty ramstick07:30
Tweek:<07:30
Moodles`does it freeze at 6% everytime?07:30
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Tweekyes07:30
Tweeknot freeze really, but it goes very very slow07:30
Moodles`I would say it would have to be a problem with the cd07:31
TweekI have tried with many cd's07:31
|GDF|snoopyok how do you get QTparted? is it included in the live disk?07:31
BlueEaglemoodles`: System -> Preferences -> Sessions07:31
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Moodles`ah its easy afterall07:32
BlueEaglemoodles`: Then chooce the "Startup Programs" tab and add the program you want to launch when gnome starts there.07:32
ben_underscorehey all07:32
intelikeyqtparted is not a command on the live....07:32
BlueEaglemoodles`: I discovered that one by accident when browsing the menus after my first install. :)07:32
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ben_underscorei'm just installing skype on breezy, and it is very ugly. what is the qt/kde library that i have to install to make it look ok?07:32
|GDF|snoopyi need to erase my har drive and was trying to figure out and easy way t wip;e it07:33
Moodles`how do I get it so folding at home loads inside a terminal on startup?07:33
|GDF|snoopyhard*07:33
intelikey|GDF|snoopy: cfdisk07:33
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BlueEaglemoodles`: folding at home?07:33
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intelikeyyeah i was wondering that too07:34
|GDF|snoopycfdisk?07:34
Moodles`distributed computing project, uses idle cpu cycles to fold proteins to better learn how cancer proteins fold etc07:34
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Nameeater_do I need linux-source-2.6.12 to install the nvidia drivers?07:34
Nameeater_its huge :'<07:34
Moodles`its just a little console pprogram07:34
intelikeycfdisk /dev/hda     <--- assumes ide07:34
BlueEaglemoodles`: gnome-terminal --command foldingathome07:34
BlueEaglemoodles`: or what ever the command for starting it is.07:34
intelikeycfdisk /dev/sda     <--- assumes scis07:34
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BlueEagleintelikey: or sata07:35
|GDF|snoopyide07:35
DR_K13./FAH-502-Linux.exe07:35
intelikeyyeah07:35
intelikeyor even usb07:35
Nameeater_do I?07:35
Moodles`gnome-terminal --07:35
BlueEagle|gdf|snoopy: for IDE use /dev/hda (for the master drive on the 1st ide controller)07:35
Moodles`i did it again whoops07:35
DR_K13opps  its ./FAH502-Linux.exe07:35
|GDF|snoopyyes07:36
|GDF|snoopythank you07:36
intelikeyMoodles`: if you just prepend /exec    that will work07:36
BlueEaglemoodles`: Did what again?07:36
|GDF|snoopytime to go do some cleaning07:36
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Moodles`i keep typing commands on this computer instead of the ubuntu computer07:36
BlueEaglemoodles`: Haha. :)07:36
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BlueEaglemoodles`: Why are you not using IRC from the ubuntu computer?07:37
CaptainMorgantwice today07:37
Noah0504Why so?07:37
Moodles`i like mirc07:37
|GDF|snoopyi take it it will come up with a menu that will walk me through it, or will do it autimatically07:37
|GDF|snoopy?07:37
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mgorbach228Anyone using dapper drake?07:37
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Davey`huzzah, awesome :)07:38
intelikeyyep |GDF|snoopy it is self explanatory07:38
BlueEaglemoodles`: I would recomend that you atleast try irssi. Yes it runs in a terminal and it hasn't got very many buttons but I find it very nice once you get the hang of it.07:38
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CaptainMorganwtf07:38
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intelikeyBlueEagle: xchat ?07:39
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BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: You do know that you can have more than one kernel installed don't you?07:39
mgorbach228Anyone using dapper drake? i want to know if it has software suspend 2 support07:39
mgorbach228built into the kernel07:39
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CaptainMorganBlueEagle, please explain07:39
mgorbach228otherwise i cant get hiberante working on my laptop07:39
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BlueEagleintelikey: I really don't think much of it. Then again I fell in love with irssi because my IRC client is running on another machine which hasn't got X installed.07:39
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intelikeyyeah when you set it up right irssi is nice.  i just wondered if you had messed with xchat?   you can config lots of thing on it too,07:40
ViViDhow do i give a specific user write access to a file with chmod07:40
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: Ok. When compiling a new kernel (unless using some nifty tools to do so) you will get a kernel image in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage. You copy that to your /boot or / folder and then set up grub to have it as an option.07:41
ViViDi cant figure out how to specify the user07:41
CaptainMorganvivid - +w07:41
CaptainMorgan>> +w07:41
ViViDcan you give me an example?07:41
BlueEaglecaptainmorgan: If you are using some nifty tools to configure your kernel you might have it overwrite any existing kernels but then you can install multiple kernels from ie. synaptic or with aptitude or apt-get and thus always have a stock kernel availible.07:41
CaptainMorgansee... I never received a /usr/src/   "linux" folder07:42
CaptainMorganhad to make it myself07:42
ViViDchmod user - +w file?07:42
CaptainMorganI developed the kernel with the linux-source-2.6.11 dir07:42
CaptainMorganand module/madwifi07:42
CaptainMorgandir07:42
zpartaomg, the kernel builds faster in vmware on my windows machine barton 2500+@3200+ with 1024mb ram then my friends celeron 2.0 with 1024mb ram running ubuntu natively :P07:42
pseudo_smartassubotu tell me about wine07:42
CaptainMorganmake'd int both dir....07:42
intelikeyViViD: man chmod07:42
zpartagot a question, can i use the deb packages done on my machine on his machine ?07:43
zpartai built with cpu 38607:43
CaptainMorganintelikey what's the name of the file?07:43
ViViDthats cuz celerons have crippled architecture07:43
CaptainMorgansudo chmod +w <file>07:43
BlueEaglevivid: The permission system is based on three categories Owner, Group and All. A file can have one user and one group. A group can have any number of members.07:43
zpartaViViD: can i use my .deb files on his machine ?07:43
intelikeyCaptainMorgan: do try to keep up  :)07:43
CaptainMorgancan even use numbers... 700? 760  770? depending on it..07:43
ViViDzparta, you can do whatever you want on it, but its going to be slower07:44
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BlueEaglevivid: Thus if you want more than one user (but not everybody) to have write access to a file you need to put them in the same group and make the file group writable.07:44
CaptainMorgankeep up> ha! been up almost three days straight with wifi wackiness07:44
pseudo_smartassok07:44
sethkdon't use numbers.  against all software engineering principles07:44
eatnumber1hey, I just installed breezy on my compaq presario v2310us notebook... it installed fine, but when it tried to boot, it says "failed to start x server ..... would you like to view the x server output" I tried reinstalling, nothing... If I view the output theres a line that says "DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI"07:44
zpartaViViD: slower then the kernel that comes with ubuntu as default ?07:44
intelikeythat explains it.07:44
CaptainMorganasinine Atheros07:44
BlueEaglevivid: Did that help you at all?07:44
ViViDBlueEagle, yea i think i understand07:45
CaptainMorganmust say though.... I really like the look of Breezy...07:45
sethkCaptainMorgan, my atheros machine ran without a hitch after a standard install.  what are you seeing?07:45
CaptainMorganmajor upgrade07:45
ViViDbut i dont want to add the user to the root goup, so ill have to change it to another i guess07:45
BlueEaglevivid: Now the owner of a file is altered with chown (man chown). You can alter the owner if you just want a single user to have write access to the file in question.07:45
CaptainMorgansethk, Im not even configuring anything.... Im going stratight to the wifi.. trying to get it working. it doesn't I reserach it.. screw the customs until after i get it wokring07:45
ViViDmaybe thats a better method07:45
BlueEaglevivid: sudo chown user:group filename07:46
CaptainMorganwhat a crapload of extras programs Breezy offers....07:46
intelikeyViViD: did you man chmod ?07:46
CaptainMorgansheesh07:46
eatnumber1any ideas?07:46
ViViDintelikey, i already know how to use it, i was doing chmod -R u+x directory and i thought there was a way to specify the user07:47
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CaptainMorgansethk, I heard that twice today... people's Atheros worked out of the box....07:47
CaptainMorganI don't get it07:47
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CaptainMorganyou went straight to System/Networking/ and configured it andwham it worked ?07:47
cdubyaAtheros here. worked great.07:47
CaptainMorgancrazy07:47
ViViDanyway thanks BlueEagle07:47
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BlueEaglevivid: np. :D07:48
eatnumber1hey, I just installed breezy on my compaq presario v2310us notebook... it installed fine, but when it tried to boot, it says "failed to start x server ..... would you like to view the x server output" I tried reinstalling, nothing... If I view the output theres a line that says "DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI"07:48
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mrkoje_Nice of everyone to let me know that freenode changed to chat.freenode.net07:48
cdubyaheh07:48
mrkoje_how long has that been in effect?07:48
cdubyayeah, I found that out after trying to get to it several times....07:48
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cdubyathen got an error message07:48
CaptainMorganmrkoje_ went to Ubuntu forums to find that out :)07:48
intelikeyViViD: why not o+w  ?07:48
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ViViDintelikey, cuz the owner is root07:49
CaptainMorganwas... didn't know about chat.07:49
eatnumber1any help?07:49
CaptainMorganeatnumber1 reinstall07:49
eatnumber1i did07:49
CaptainMorganagain07:49
mrkoje_CaptainMorgan,  I just logged into the 2600.net irc and asked about freenode.... I haven't been around for a while so I didn't know what was going on when I couldn't connect to irc.free.......07:49
CaptainMorganlol - I love to install!07:49
eatnumber1i did07:50
eatnumber1twice07:50
CaptainMorganinstall is Great!07:50
scopecreepi had to connect to herbert.freenode :\07:50
intelikeyViViD: do you not want others to be able to write to them ?07:50
CaptainMorganfinished two books today... in the process..07:50
pois0nHmm, When i try and boot off the ubuntu cd it says Linux install failed to locate cd rom drive? :/07:50
BlueEagleeatnumber1: I would if I weren't going to bed. I am guessing that the graphics card is not detected right and thus the right driver is not missing. You probably need to research which card is in the lappy and alter the driver in xorg.conf accordingly.07:50
Moodles`in my startup, I have "/home/poseidon/FAH/FAH502-Linux.exe -advmethods -forceasm" but for some reason it saves its files in /home/poseidon/07:50
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Noah0504So I tried to install Fedora Core 4 today.  Psh, that piece of crap hates my video card.07:50
BlueEagleGood night folks. You've been great! Be sure to tip your waitress.07:50
ViViDintelikey, only one user07:50
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Noah0504Proving that Ubuntu is better.07:51
Noah0504haha07:51
mrkoje_Noah0504, I actually like FC4 for my "serving" needs...07:51
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surfacehi07:51
CaptainMorgannight BE07:51
intelikeyoh only one user.  then let the user own them.07:51
Moodles`i assume I would need to write a shell script that actually goes to that folder and does ./FAH502-Linux.exe07:51
surfaceinstalling ubuntu07:51
Noah0504mrkoje_, Well, I would know what it07:51
Noah0504s07:51
Noah0504like.07:51
eatnumber1blueeagle: i looked on ati's site for the drivers, and they arent on the site07:51
ViViDNoah0504, thats funny, fedora uses the same xorg and video drivers..try disabling the graphic installer07:51
BlueEagleeatnumber1: Well that's ATi for you. :)07:51
eatnumber1blueeagle: i also looked on compaq's site, none07:51
scopecreepis there any way for me to somehow add wlan-ng (prism2_usb) to a ubuntu install cd?07:52
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CaptainMorganwhat exactly is a 'shell script' ?      cat file > file1 | sort 2> result ?07:52
mrkoje_eatnumber1,  if you are looking for ATI video drivers for linux I assure you they are on the ati.com site.07:52
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intelikeyViViD: i thought you said "let 'user' write" in the generic sense.  sorry.07:52
eatnumber1mrkoje_: 1 sec, ill get a link07:52
BlueEaglemoodles`: in the services thing I told you about add this: gnome-terminal --command ~/FAH502-Linux.exe07:53
dabaRmrkoje: I assure you that they are also in the restricted repository of Ubuntu.07:53
BlueEaglemoodles`: but .exe is a windows app isn't it?07:53
ViViDintelikey, i cant change it with chown or chmod anyway, cuz its an smb share07:53
dabaR!+ati07:53
ubotuhmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:53
Moodles`its written in ASM, so it runs on anything07:53
BlueEaglemoodles`: You might need to use --command wine ~/FAH502-Linux.exe07:53
BlueEaglemoodles`: Ah, ok.07:54
BlueEaglemoodles`: Then the 1st should probably do the trick.07:54
CaptainMorganfifth time's a charm....07:54
intelikeyi know nothing about sam<whoever>07:54
BlueEaglemoodles`: You can try it first by typing that command on a command line.07:54
mrkojedabaR,  Well I heard a guy having problems with the drivers in the restricted repos..07:54
eatnumber1mrkoje_: this is directly off ati's site regarding the drivers for my card: "Display drivers and multimedia applications for notebooks with ATI graphics solutions are available for download from your Notebook manufacturer. "07:54
BlueEaglemoodles`: If it works then that's the right command if not well... it should be tbh.07:54
dabaReatnumber1: did you try the wiki page for ati drivers?07:55
eatnumber1mrkoje_: and i looked on compaq's site, and they dont have drivers for linux07:55
BlueEaglemoodles`: (provided that the file is in your home directory that is)07:55
cdubyaViVid, what are you trying to do?07:55
eatnumber1dabaR: no, where is that07:55
BlueEaglemoodles`: If it is somwhere else use: gnome-terminal --command /path/to/FAH502-Linux.exe07:55
dabaReatnumber1: linux has its own drivers. scroll up a little bit right after I said "!+ati"07:55
BlueEaglemoodles`: Where /path/to is the path to the executable ofcourse.07:55
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pseudo_smartassis there a place where i can get a list of irc servers?07:55
ViViDmrkoje, yes, the nvidia drivers supplied by ubuntu are unstable, recompile older 7667 version07:56
dabaRpseudo_smartass: google would likely do something similar.07:56
pseudo_smartassahh yes07:56
ViViDmrkoje, but the same is true for all distributions07:56
BlueEaglemoodles`: If it needs to be executed in it's current directory you can do: gnome-terminal --command cd /path/to/executable&&./FAH502-Linux.exe07:56
mrkojeeatnumber1,  What kind of card is in your laptop...07:56
BlueEaglemoodles`: Now I'm really going.07:56
dabaRViViD: what? you know this for a fact or are you just speaking words?07:56
eatnumber1dabaR: how do I enable restricted repositories / install the drivers via terminal07:56
pseudo_smartasshey dabar... u wqouldn't happen to know anything about installing a webcam would ya?07:56
mrkojeeatnumber1,   try this command       sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list07:57
Moodles`yeah, "gnome-terminal --command cd /path/to/executable&&./FAH502-Linux.exe" will work much better thaks07:57
dabaReatnumber1: visit the wiki page is best I can help you with. there are two links. I will make ubotu send you a private message with the links.07:57
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cdubyapseudo_smartass, xchat has a list already there if you use it at all.....07:57
ViViDdabaR, its a fact, nvidia version 8174 drivers, which are whats in the restricted ubuntu repos, are unstable, and reduce the amount of agp mem allocated drastically07:57
holycowhey all07:57
holycowthe bots are back again i take it?07:57
pseudo_smartasseat... in the /etc/apt/ u will sudo vi the sources.list07:57
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mrkojeeatnumber1,  from there you will have to edit the sources.list file... basically you will have to "uncomment" two lines07:57
dabaRpseudo_smartass: no, I would not.07:57
ViViDdabaR, 8174 would give you 32mb where 7667 would give you 11207:57
pseudo_smartassreally?07:57
pseudo_smartassthats what i ended up having to do07:58
pseudo_smartasscuz they were commented out07:58
ViViDdabaR, problem doesnt seem to occur on pcx cards tho07:58
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, doubt they'd help much.....I suspect they don't do linux07:58
pseudo_smartasswell the universe and multiverse repos07:58
CaptainMorganlol07:58
cdubyaheh07:58
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so what's the deal?07:59
CaptainMorganfull house07:59
cdubyaheh07:59
cdubyak07:59
cdubyajust asking07:59
CaptainMorganultimatley it's getting madwifi to work... some say it works out of the box... Ive yet to experience that08:00
ViViDto use the nvidia sites archived 7667 you need linux-source, headers, build-essential, and gcc-3.4, then CC=gcc-3.4 and export and installer will run correctly08:00
Moodles`BlueEagle: I get: invalid argument: "/home/poseidon/FAH"08:00
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so where are you at with it now?08:01
Siph0ni get this, "Can not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open"08:01
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Siph0nanyway to see if the resource is available08:02
ViViDSiph0n, close other open packages08:02
dabaR!+info nvidia-glx08:02
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.08:02
ubotunvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10036 kB08:02
mrkojeeatnumber1,  you have a mobility radeon right?08:02
ViViDcan only run one instance of dpkg/apt08:02
dabaR!fud08:02
ubotuit has been said that fud is [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.08:02
CaptainMorganfifth install of Ubuntu.. second of Breezy... which btw Im really impressed with.. only whihc wifi turn out better... although the process of getting sources and packages in Breezy is easier...08:02
dabaR!:P08:02
ubotudabaR: Are you smoking crack?08:02
mrkoje!beer08:02
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=== mrkoje oh well thanks ubotu
cdubyaubotu is cool08:03
ubotuNo idea, cdubya08:03
ViViDdabaR, thats not correct, the version installed is 817408:03
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Siph0ni removed klibido, but the directory and files are still their.... why? :)08:03
dabaRso, I believe your talk was not true.08:03
ViViDsomeone needs to update their bot08:03
dabaRNo, he takes package info straight from the database.08:03
ViViDdabaR, install the packages, and check the version, 81.7408:03
mrkojeHere is a question: Why does Ubuntu leave out programs that I think are essential... such as  sshd?08:03
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so the card got picked up on install correctly?08:03
CaptainMorgansure... I guess..08:04
dabaRmrkoje: openssh-server is in main.08:04
CaptainMorganmrkoje next time we'll write the code just for you :)08:04
dabaRViViD: you must be using the unstable, development branch, then. Dapper. The 8174 is there.08:05
cdubyamrkoje, not too many folks I know who would give linux a chance on the desktop at home would care to dance with ssh......08:05
=== CaptainMorgan notes Dapper users are brave...
ViViDusing ubuntu breezy 2.6.12-10-38608:05
=== mrkoje Gets on his knees and thanks CaptainMorgan over and over again. Now he doesn't have to apt-get install openssh-server anymore!
=== CaptainMorgan thinks it's essential.. you apt-to install it..
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so you don't know if it did, or...........08:06
=== mrkoje Agrees with CaptainMorgan; everyone should apt-to install it
CaptainMorgancdubya, before I played with the madwifi sources, kwifi and radar were seeing it but I couldnt' get connected..08:06
dabaRViViD: well, I do not have any other arguments for you. I think still that it would be very strange if Ubuntu lied, and strange to use a development version of a widely used driver like that in the stable version.08:06
CaptainMorganconfigured an al08:06
CaptainMorganeven gave it a reserved lan address, relative to the machines hw address08:07
ViViDdabaR, 8174 is not considered "unstable"08:07
CaptainMorganspecial reservation an all08:07
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so what's ifconfig reporting?08:07
CaptainMorgancrap08:07
cdubyaheh08:07
cdubyathat's new08:07
CaptainMorganit may report my reserved ip.. mac and, but it still doens't pick up the router..08:07
CaptainMorganping - unreachable08:08
ViViDit presents problems with nvidia cards on agp bus only08:08
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cdubyaCaptainMorgan, the ip's on the same subnet....?08:08
CaptainMorgansubnet mask ? yes08:09
CaptainMorgandifferent hardware...08:09
cdubyathe same subnet as the router08:09
cdubyado you know the ip of the router08:09
CaptainMorgannot skilled in networks... ether gets own ip, same mask as ath0, ath0 gets different ip08:09
CaptainMorganip, yes08:09
CaptainMorgansure08:09
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CaptainMorganor do I give both ether and ath0 the same IP? i don't think soo..08:10
ViViDdabaR, funny thing is it says 7667, but when i installed nvidias 7667, i got more than 64mb of additional agp mem08:10
JormundgandThere is a clock on my notification area.08:10
cdubyaso is the subnet of the router the same as the ip you're getting for ath0....in other words if the router is 192.168.2.x....does ath0 have a 192.168.2.x address......08:10
JormundgandIt doesn't respond to any mouse-ular interaction.08:10
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ViViDdabaR, might want to check if they removed 8174 from the repos08:11
dabaRThey should essentially be the same driver, with the addition of bug fixes specific to Ubuntu.08:11
CaptainMorgansubnet the same as the ip for aht0 ? noah08:11
CaptainMorganmasks are different... afaik08:11
dabaRViViD: 8174 is reported in dapper.08:11
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, what's your ath0 ip?08:11
CaptainMorganath0 ip would be on the lan, so 192.168.2 or something08:11
cdubyak08:11
cdubyawhat's the router's ip08:12
CaptainMorgan:)08:12
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CaptainMorganunique - reaches the outside world08:12
sethkCaptainMorgan, missing a number there08:12
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, what's the router's LAN ip08:12
ViViDdabaR, 8174 is commonly known as being a poor release08:12
CaptainMorganping Captainmorgan08:12
ViViDdabaR, and i changed my nvidia drivers from the default installed 8174 to 7667 yesterday08:13
CaptainMorgan68....08:13
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, that's the WAN ip....08:13
cdubyawhat's the LAN ip08:13
Phoenix1701Okay, so you guys are going to laugh at me, and rightly so, but...  I have this ancient ISA sound card.  I picked it up off the floor, I have no idea what it is or how old, but it seems to be in working order.  I stuck it in my Ubuntu box and am trying to get it to work, but it doesn't see the card at all.  Any hints on how I might diagnose the problem and fix it?08:13
CaptainMorganwhich one?08:13
CaptainMorganthey're different08:13
cdubyayep08:13
CaptainMorganof course08:13
polpakPhoenix1701: try lspci08:14
polpakPhoenix1701: it might give you some cluew08:14
mrkojePhoenix1701, wow you have an old box eh?08:14
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cdubyaone will be your public internet ip (WAN), which is the 68 one you were saying.....08:14
polpakPhoenix1701: or you can look on the chips and see if you can find a serial08:14
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, the other will be your backside local network ip (LAN)08:14
CaptainMorganif you can say it, you probably a basic understanding. which si what I need in networking08:14
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CaptainMorganaye - lan08:14
CaptainMorganwhoa...08:15
ViViDdabaR, 7667 also has problems with certain fx series cards, in that case should use 767608:15
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CaptainMorgansound works on this install... not one peep from th first..08:15
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Phoenix1701polpak: Ah, okay, this is what I was seeing in the GUI too.  No reference to a sound card, just a bunch of controllers and my graphics card.08:15
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Phoenix1701mrkoje: Yeah, it's old, but it's 400 MHz and the price was right.  :)08:15
okihCan anyone here help me to install xine on ubuntu 5.1?08:16
Phoenix1701polpak: I can find a manufacturer, at least...  what are the chances that I'd need to find a driver somewhere?08:16
CaptainMorganok, you folks say Atheros works out of the box... i got it open for the time this installl. what's the first thing you did when you went into your accoutn?08:16
Tweekokih, sure08:16
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, have you setup the router at all08:16
Phoenix1701I thought sound cards were pretty standardized, at least to the extent of being able to play sound through the speakers.08:16
okihTweek, Thanks08:16
mrkojePhoenix1701, Thats great.. matter of fact I just picked up an old machine from the Universty auction... 700Mhz Celeron $2508:16
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ViViDokih, enable your universe repos and apt-get update && apt-get install xine08:16
CaptainMorganrouter's fine, yep08:16
Tweekhave you tried sudo apt-get install xine?08:16
silvertonGL screen servers don't want to work, is there a package I need to install?08:16
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, System > Administration >Networking08:16
mrkojePhoenix1701, I wish I would have got there earlier! They had about 10 P4 for $5008:16
Phoenix1701mrkoje: Nice.  :)  I want to run this one as a music server, but that requires a sound card, and the onboard sound seems to be broken...08:17
okihTweek: Yes, it said the package didn't exist.08:17
mrkojePhoenix1701,  each08:17
CaptainMorgancdubya.. right, that's what i did the first time.. ill do it agai..08:17
Tweekokih, try getting a larger sources.list08:17
ViViDokih, enable your universe and multiverse repos08:17
Tweeklet me try and find you one08:17
Phoenix1701So I scooped up a sound card and tried it, but now I'm having this problem...08:17
silvertonPhoenix1701, music server doesn't need a sound card, a music server holds the music, doesn't play it :P08:17
Madpilot!sources08:17
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:17
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, click on ath0, then click on Properties08:17
okihHow would I do that?08:17
Madpilotokih & Tweek - see ubotu ^^^08:17
dabaRokih: you can find a walkthrough of installing things in Ubuntu with related info at dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html08:17
mrkojeokih, to enable your universe and multiverse repos you need to edit this file:   /etc/apt/sources.list08:17
TweekMadpilot, When robots take over the world I will blame you08:18
ViViDokih, or you can just add universe to the end of what youve got08:18
dabaRMadpilot: did you know the 2325 is out of date?08:18
Tweekokih,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267208:18
CaptainMorgancdubya..k, i get to it, ath0 is not active.. eth0 is active.. so - ill click properties..08:18
mrkojeokih, you can use this command:   sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list08:18
pseudo_smartassin order to install devices do i have to mount them?08:18
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, ummm...are you wired to the router?08:18
ViViDdabaR, heh, see that bot can be wrong08:18
dabaRpseudo_smartass: storage devices are mounted.08:18
pseudo_smartassi.e - webcams, plug and play devices and stuff like that08:18
CaptainMorganfirst I gotta do after properties is check the box, enable this connnection08:18
dabaRViViD: not in searching for packages.08:18
CaptainMorganhardwired into the router yes..08:18
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, but you're wanting to setup the wireless?08:19
CaptainMorganyes08:19
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, k08:19
ViViDthe version that ubuntu installs is not nearly as good as nvidias08:19
Phoenix1701So, any other suggestions?  :)08:19
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, enable ath008:19
CaptainMorganin case you're wondering, im talking through a second comp..08:19
ViViDdoesnt matter what version they have it labelled as08:19
cdubyaheh08:19
CaptainMorganso I enable the conn...08:19
okihmrkoje: What do I edit?08:19
ViViDokih, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:19
dabaRokih: visit that web site, it is easier.08:19
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, yep08:19
CaptainMorgannetwork is encrypted... gotta enter the name and key..08:19
mrkojeokih,  you need to edit the "sources.list" file08:20
CaptainMorganset to dhcp.08:20
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, yeah08:20
runevi /dev/md0              1.4T  129M  1.4T   1% /mnt/largedisk08:20
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MadpilotdabaR: I didn't - isn't the standard Breezy repos list?08:20
cdubyaif you've got WEP running08:20
runevi.. okay, so I'm a tad proud.08:20
runevi;)08:20
mrkojeokih,  you can do this by typing this into the command line:   sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list08:20
cdubyaerr using it08:20
dabaRrunevi: oh, wow.08:20
mrkojeokih,  or you can open it in gedit:    sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:20
okihok08:20
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so you saw your SSID name in the Network Name list?08:20
ViViDokih, use gedit instead of vi, its easier to use for newcomers08:20
CaptainMorganplain ascii or hexi?08:20
mrkojeokih,  you will then need to uncomment two lines of code08:20
runevidabaR: Just finished mkfs.ext3'ing it now. :)  It used the night to sync up the raid. :)08:20
CaptainMorgannetwork name list?08:21
CaptainMorganwhere ?08:21
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, depends on how you setup WEP, if that's what you're using.....08:21
ViViDokih,  or at least use vim08:21
cdubyaif you're using WPA, it's a different story altogether08:21
CaptainMorganah.. I go into the router directly via the http address08:21
okihViVid: vim is like xine?08:21
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, what kind of router?08:21
okihmrkoje: Which two lines?08:21
CaptainMorgannetgear08:21
pseudo_smartassvim is like vi, pico, nano08:21
cdubyak08:21
mrkojeokih,  read the file.... it will tell you08:21
ViViDokih, vim = vi enhanced = console text editor08:21
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, do you know if it's using WEP or WPA?08:22
mrkojeI like vim08:22
okihok08:22
CaptainMorganWEp08:22
cdubyak08:22
CaptainMorganplain or hex?08:22
pseudo_smartassim partial to vi08:22
dabaRViViD: vi is a link to vim in Ubuntu.08:22
CaptainMorganplain....08:22
CaptainMorganright?08:22
ViViDmrkoje, so do i but newcomers have no idea how to use a console text editor08:22
pseudo_smartasslol08:22
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, depends....did you let it autogenerate a key for you or did you do it manually in the router setup08:22
mrkojegedit is easy to use... but you can't use gedit remotely... easily anyway08:22
pseudo_smartassits just like using "edit" in dos lol08:22
ViViDdabaR, i use multiple distros08:22
mrkojeyou can....08:22
CaptainMorganpassphrase and it generated one for me08:22
CaptainMorganno matter, i can get the key08:22
mrkojeViVid:  I have the VIM BOOK08:23
CaptainMorganwhich I enter in ath008:23
mrkojeViViD,  lol08:23
ViViDmrkoje, i didnt see him say he was remote, if he was i dont know why hed want to run xine08:23
dabaRViViD: also, there is synaptic, so you dont need to edit any files. I have a nice walkthrough of adding repos with pictures, at http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic . I suggest you visit that, okih.08:23
mrkojeViViD, I don't think he was remote08:23
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, yeah, you'll have to add it there in the Properties window and make sure you SSID name is selected on the drop-down08:23
okihOk08:23
mrkojeViViD,  you know the Vim tutorial book has 572 damn pages :)08:23
ViViDall he has to do is sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add 'universe' to the end of the main entry08:24
CaptainMorganhey..08:24
silvertonSo, anyone know what could be my issue with GL screen savers?08:24
polpakmrkoje: try using emacs sometime =p08:24
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, what08:24
CaptainMorganin that drop down there's a function line08:24
CaptainMorganorange like08:24
CaptainMorganthat mean it sees it?08:24
ViViDmrkoje, ahh its simple arrows to move i to write esc to end :commands08:24
ViViDhows that for 572 pages08:24
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, you mean on the SSID drop-down?08:25
silvertonmaybe it's 571 pages of commands ;D08:25
CaptainMorganyea08:25
silvertonthat first page explaining what you just said08:25
mrkojeViViD,  polpak  ya its not that hard.... but come on who writes a tutorial on a text editor and the tutorial is 572 pages?08:25
CaptainMorganyou see that small function like sign..?08:25
CaptainMorganto the right of the id ?08:25
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, yeah, that's lists the ones it finds in range08:25
ViViDmrkoje, better yet, who reads it?08:25
cdubyathe orange squiggle?08:25
CaptainMorganaye. orange08:25
cdubyayeah08:25
CaptainMorganso that's good then08:25
CaptainMorganit sees the network08:25
mrkojeViViD,  well I read the first 12 to figure out how vi/vim works along time ago08:26
CaptainMorganso here we go... got all the right info...08:26
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, is the one that's by your SSID with or without a key over the top of that orange thing08:26
Phoenix1701Does anyone know if there's a list of sound cards or chipsets that are officially supported by Ubuntu?08:26
mrkojeI guess it makes good toilet reading... maybe08:26
ViViDi think i figured it out by reading a how to, they tend to be shorter and more to the point08:26
CaptainMorganplease clarify08:26
CaptainMorganyou mean two instances of the same name?08:27
mrkojetrue... it was free pdf though... it does have a lot of "advanced" information I guess08:27
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, when you selected the SSID drop-down and saw the list, you saw you SSID name, right? did it have a picture of just the orange squiggle or the orange squiggle with a yellow key on top of it?08:27
MadpilotdabaR: I just removed the hoary-extras list from that pastebin sources.list - I'm not sure anything in there is needed for Breezy...08:27
CaptainMorgancomplete orange squiggle08:28
CaptainMorganno yellow08:28
cdubyabut no yellow key08:28
CaptainMorganright08:28
cdubyak08:28
MadpilotdabaR: (which isn't available elsewhere, that is...)08:28
CaptainMorganall good?08:28
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so you may not be running WEP08:28
CaptainMorganim looking into the router now... it's definately wep08:28
cdubyaor it doesn't see it that way, anyway, but it's pretty accurate on this box, so....08:28
Moodles`I've got a fullscreen opengl application open atm, is there anyway to ctrl+alt+delete it?08:29
cdubyak. did you get it enabled?08:29
cdubyawith the key and all?08:29
ViViDokih, you might even want to try to install vlc instead of xine, its in the standard repos, and has better codec support08:29
CaptainMorganhit ok and the window closedd.. im back at the interface list..08:29
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CaptainMorganath0 is still inactive... activate?08:29
CaptainMorganhere we go08:29
cdubyaclick ok.08:29
cdubyahyeah08:29
cdubyaactivate it08:29
okihok08:29
cdubyathen click ok08:30
CaptainMorganpopup with bar 'activating ath0'08:30
CaptainMorganmoment of truth..08:30
cdubyaheh08:30
okihI got the repositories universe thing an I *think* I installed xine. It doesn't show up in the sound&video applications though.08:30
cdubyawhen that window goes away, click ok and it will finish up08:30
ViViDokih, install vlc instead08:30
CaptainMorgantakes a bit.....08:31
ViViDokih, it has better codec support08:31
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, I go through this often.....and yes it does....08:31
okihViVid, Ok08:31
CaptainMorganok.... both eth0 and ath0 are active...08:31
CaptainMorganclicking ok08:31
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, k08:31
ViViDokih, and if they arent in the list, just run by typing xine or vlc in the terminal08:31
Siph0nis there a way to do a complete removal of a program, where it gets rid of any folders and icons?08:31
cdubyaonce that window disappears, try to get somewhere on it08:31
silvertonis the "legacy nvidia driver" the "nv" driver?08:31
ViViDsilverton, no08:31
silvertonthen how do I install the legacy driver?08:31
ViViDsilverton, they are nvidia drivers for older riva and tnt cards08:32
silvertonI have a geforce2 pro08:32
CaptainMorganfirst thing Ill do, is it okay to unplug eth0 ?08:32
silvertonwhich is under the legacy cards list08:32
cdubyasure08:32
ViViDsilverton, then install the legacy just like you would the normal ones08:32
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silvertonI don't see that in the hardware how-to though08:32
ViViDsilverton, and add -legacy to the end of the commands08:32
silvertoneh?08:32
silvertonso, nvidia-glx-legacy?08:32
ViViDsilverton, open synaptic, search for nvidia08:33
ViViDsilverton, yes08:33
RaisedFisthello. how can I run 32bit apps on a 64bit ubuntu installation?08:33
silvertonohhh, gotcha08:33
silvertonthanks dude08:33
CaptainMorganafter unpluggin eth0, icon at the top ( network icon ) has a yellow triangle with an exclamtion in it..08:33
ViViDsilverton, restricted legacy, glx legacy and get nvidia-settings too08:33
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, prolly isn't finding the physical connection that you just unplugged.....:D08:33
silvertonyeah, I have nvidia settings08:33
silvertonI've set this up for a 5200 before, so I was kinda curious why it wasn't working08:34
silvertontil I read a forum thread that for older cards, you had to use the legacy driver08:34
silvertonwhich I assumed was "nv"08:34
ViViDsilverton, if youre using synaptic just search for nvidia legacy08:34
CaptainMorgansee now, at this point i go to the icon, click on it and try to find the ath0 in the drop down... it's not there08:34
CaptainMorganI try a site,, nothing08:34
Siph0nor does neone know what the dcopserver is? when i reinstall klibido, and try and run it, i get an error that the dcopserver is not running08:34
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, where are you looking for the ath0 connection?08:35
ViViDCaptainMorgan, you can get on irc but not browse the web??08:35
silvertonthanks much guys :)08:35
silvertoner, ViViD...08:35
cdubyaViViD, he's on another box08:35
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ViViDif so, you might want to double check the dns settings08:35
CaptainMorganthe icon at the top ( network icon ) has a yellow triangle in it08:35
silvertonis the card even supported?08:35
CaptainMorgandns ? no dns set08:35
CaptainMorgandhcp by icp08:36
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, iwconfig08:36
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IRCMonkey999does having "many" desktops on ubuntu gnome affect the performance?08:37
CaptainMorganat this point I usually try system/admin/networking and set the ath0 to default gateway... even make eth0 inactive...08:37
CaptainMorgannothing08:37
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, what kind of machine is this?08:37
silvertonholy crap, my cursor is gone >.<08:37
MadpilotIRCMonkey999: I run eight, and filling them up does use up loads of RAM, but Gnome itself is still responsive08:37
ViViDsilverton, its linux-restricted-modules-kernelversion-nvidia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy08:37
okihTweek, mrkoje, ViVid, and dabaR: Thank you all very much, I am happily listening to my music now 8-D08:37
CaptainMorganthinkpad08:38
CaptainMorganiwconfig has AP of all 00's no ip,08:38
silvertonViViD, jah, I got it, the restricted modules was a dependency of the nvidia-glx-legacy08:38
CaptainMorganwtf08:38
CaptainMorganworking out fo the box my azz08:38
IRCMonkey999Madpilot: i mean if i have eight of them but use only 2 of them... will it take up extra memory?08:38
CaptainMorganSSID is correct.. in iwconfig08:38
ViViDsilverton, there ya go, make sure after its installed that its not version 81.7408:38
IRCMonkey999Madpilot: i mean... will it take only memory for 2 desktops or all 8?08:39
CaptainMorganAtheros chip is supported08:39
MadpilotIRCMonkey999: it doesn't seem to - only three of mine have stuff in them and I'm using less than 25% of my 1Gb RAM08:39
CaptainMorganSignal level in iwconfig = 95 dbm08:39
silvertonViViD, what about the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" command ?08:39
CaptainMorganNoise leve = 95 dbm08:39
silvertonI tried nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-config-legacy08:39
CaptainMorganLink Quality 0/9408:39
IRCMonkey999Madpilot: 1GB Ram ... hmmm makes me jealous ;)08:39
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, there's your problem08:39
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, you're just not getting there08:40
CaptainMorgan?08:40
ViViDsilverton, you can do that, or change xorg.conf manually if you know how to do it08:40
MadpilotIRCMonkey999: AFAIK it's really only applications that take up serious RAM, and adding more empty virtual desktops doesn't affect things much08:40
CaptainMorganlink quality?08:40
silvertoncdubya, sounds to me like he isn't even technically connected to his ap08:40
silvertonViViD, what would I put for driver?  nvidia-legacy ?08:40
cdubyasilverton, pretty much08:40
IRCMonkey999Madpilot: oh.. ok. thank you08:40
ViViDsilverton, nvidia08:41
silvertonoh...08:41
silvertonlol, k08:41
cdubyasilverton, don't think he's associated, even though it looks like he is08:41
CaptainMorgan?08:41
CaptainMorganAP's all 00's why?08:41
IRCMonkey999when will firefox 1.5 for ubuntu be ready?08:41
silvertondefine "all 00's"08:41
chull_is there a movie player that is easy to get for Ubuntu?08:41
CaptainMorganthat's why I say my first install, I reserved an ip and ap, but never got connnected08:41
ViViDchull, vlc08:41
Madpilotchull_: Totem is installed by default...08:41
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, because you're not really ever getting to the AP....the 00's are prolly the mac address iwconfig is reporting for the AP08:41
CaptainMorganAccess Point: 00:00:00:0008:41
IRCMonkey999and ubotu... how are you doing...08:41
cdubyasince it can't find it08:41
RaisedFistso ... can someone help me with this: I want to run 32bit programs on a 64bit ubuntu install ... i never did it and I don;t know how .. please help!08:41
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chull_Madpilot, it doesn't seem to have the necessary plugins... how do I get those?08:42
ViViDchull, but totem doesnt have as much codec support as vlc08:42
Madpilot!tell chull_ about restricted08:42
ViViDchull_, install vlc and you wont have that problem08:42
CaptainMorganso I cant into the router... I take that mac address and place it where for ath0?08:42
CaptainMorganso i CAN get ito the router...08:42
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, so when you got into the router, how did you setup the WEP?08:42
chull_ViViD, ok great can you help me with the code or whatever i need, please?08:42
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(pseudo_smartass/#ubuntu) ok10:43
(pseudo_smartass/#ubuntu) now my filesystem is all fucked up10:43
(burepe/#ubuntu) pseudo_smartass, is the drive that you are working on the drive that ubuntu is installed on?10:43
(pseudo_smartass/#ubuntu) how do i put shit together10:43
(burepe/#ubuntu) use knoppix10:43
(pseudo_smartass/#ubuntu) lol yep10:43
(burepe/#ubuntu) that is not a good thing to do10:43
(burepe/#ubuntu) use knoppix and qtparted10:43
(pseudo_smartass/#ubuntu) lol im seeing that10:43
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burepesorry, I should have mentioned that10:44
pseudo_smartasswell its all partitioned now... but i got freespace... swap...free space... system part10:44
pseudo_smartasslol10:44
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pseudo_smartassi just want to put free space, swap, system10:44
burepeyou got a cd burner10:44
pseudo_smartassget the 9 gigs of free before the swap10:44
burepe?10:45
pseudo_smartassyeah10:45
pseudo_smartasshave knoppix on a disk already10:45
keitsiwhat's the trick to get alsa-oss working? after I did apt-get install alsa-oss, none of apps that use OSS have been working correctly ever since. if I start enemy territory with the aoss, I the sound are laggy and choppy. same goes for skype.10:45
keitsi-I10:46
keitsis/sound/sounds10:46
pseudo_smartassya know what damnit10:46
pseudo_smartassim just gonna delete the swap and the 2 free spaces and just re partition after that10:47
pseudo_smartassshit....forgot to put in the swap10:48
burepejust do it later with knoppix10:48
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burepeyou are gonna mess your system up if you don't stop10:49
burepemaybr10:49
burepee10:49
spacey_kiif you do it right you can do it without any reboot10:49
pseudo_smartassok10:49
pseudo_smartassi haven't rebooted yet10:49
pseudo_smartasslol10:49
hmpedersenI still cant get skype to work on ubuntu10:49
chorsei hate segfaults in xchat10:49
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pseudo_smartassonce im done i will try a restart and see how it goes lol10:49
crimsunhmpedersen: did you first uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup?10:49
pseudo_smartassskype... not sound..10:50
CaptainMorganhahahahah!!!10:50
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hmpedersenCrimsun, skype disables all sound (including its own) untill i exit it..10:50
crimsunhmpedersen: that sounds like a Skype config issue10:51
hmpedersenbrb.. gotta reboot10:51
hmpedersenoh.. not anymore..10:52
hmpedersenNow it refuses to call, saying "Problem with sound device10:52
hmpedersenYes.. It started saying that when i installed KDE...10:52
crimsunhmpedersen: did you configure arts to use ALSA?10:52
hmpedersenno..10:53
crimsunhmpedersen: furthermore, did you configure it to release the sound device after 2 idle seconds?10:53
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hmpedersenno1 ever told me.. All they did was !skype, then told me to do what was in the document there..10:53
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liablewarning, i am a pisshead :P10:54
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CaptainMorganthanks man.. unreal ;)10:55
weyounyay10:55
liableCaptainMorgan: basically, comment the auto lines, the just call up whatever iface you want with ifup XXX010:56
pseudo_smartasslol do i really need a swap?10:56
liableweyoun: dont /msg, especially with pointless dribble.10:57
pseudo_smartassi have a gig of memory....10:57
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liablecrimsun: mind +q weyoun??10:58
liablegrr10:58
pseudo_smartassok... im off to restart... if i aint back in 5 minutes... everyone learn from my mistake... dont delete, resize, resize, delete, delete, and resize all before restarting once...10:58
pseudo_smartasslol10:58
PygiI wanna know what kernel is ;) ;) ;)11:00
Pygihehe ;)11:00
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weyounwhee11:01
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ndlovudoes anyone know if the filtering rules set in firestarter remain active after you close the application?11:01
j2daoshshit... lol11:01
j2daoshok11:01
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j2daoshwell the loading of the local fiesystems check failed...11:01
j2daoshwhatever the hell that means11:01
MrSunshinehumm, the package management in ubuntu .. is there graphical package installer as well as updater? :>11:01
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MrSunshinewould mek me very happy ;>11:01
tuskerninihi there all11:01
PygiMrSunshine: Synaptic ???11:02
crimsunMrSunshine: Applications> Add Applications?  System> Preferences> Synaptic?11:02
crimsunSystem> Administration> Synaptic, rather11:02
MrSunshineohh :>11:02
MrSunshinei havent got it installed11:02
MrSunshinebut thinking of it11:02
MrSunshine:>11:02
MrSunshine(ubuntu)11:02
tuskerninii need advice in buying a motherboard and cpu... what should i do? P or AMD?11:02
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MrSunshinek or g ubuntu is the same as the base ubuntu? :>11:03
j2daoshdamnit11:03
MrSunshinejust that it defaults to gnome or kde?11:03
j2daoshhow do i remount a drive?11:03
Pygituskernini: hehe, this is not a computer board and cpu discussion ;)11:03
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j2daoshlol yeah i know liable... should have listened... but i like doing things the hard way11:03
j2daoshlol11:03
Pygij2daosh: with "umount"11:03
tuskerninipygi : i realize, just got here11:03
Pygituskernini: np11:04
j2daoshno... pygi... i need to mount... not unmount11:04
Pygiwell, then use mount ;)11:04
j2daoshlol i tried11:04
j2daoshbut it said cant find it in fstab11:04
tuskerniniman mount before you go ahead11:04
onkarshindej2daosh: what do you want to mount?11:04
zion_whats the default /dev/??? for usb stick ?11:05
j2daoshmy hard drive i just repartioned11:05
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crimsunzion_: /dev/sdX11:05
onkarshindezion_: /dev/sda111:05
zion_thnx11:05
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tiglionabbitdon't usb sticks mount automatically and appear on your desktop?  They should11:05
silvertonargh!  I just give up on the nvidia module...11:05
zion_even if they do i dont want that11:05
No1VikingA hard nut to crack for you all: I want to syncronise a SonyEricsson P900, how do i succeed with that?11:05
onkarshindej2daosh: 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/partition /dir' should do. Put approriate values11:06
tiglionabbitzion_: what do you want then?  (sorry, just got here)11:06
j2daoshon... do wha?11:06
j2daoshlol11:06
zion_just to mo11:06
j2daoshu must have me confused with someone who aint a noob11:06
j2daoshlol11:06
zion_mount it11:06
Pygiif it says it isnt in /etc/fstab then add it there11:06
j2daoshbut i dont know what options i need to put in there11:06
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onkarshindej2daosh: didn't you understand my reply?11:06
j2daoshlol on... no11:07
j2daoshoh11:07
j2daoshnevbermind11:07
j2daoshlol11:07
silvertonj2daosh, why are you typing "on..." ?11:07
No1VikingA hard nut to crack for you all: I want to syncronise a SonyEricsson P900 with, for example, evolution, how do i succeed with that?11:07
tacosaucehi. i just tried to install ubuntu but it failed to detect my DHCP settings, but I continued anyways and then it says please wait loading partition screen and then it just stalls with a blue background. anyone have any help for me?11:07
onkarshindeNo1Viking: is it using bluetooth?11:08
j2daoshhey on... when u say /dir at the end of that command... what should i put there?11:08
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No1Vikingonkarshinde, can use both bluetooth and cable11:08
No1Vikingonkarshinde, but are using cable at the moment11:09
j2daoshwhat the fuck...? ok11:09
Pygij2daosh: for example /media/disk or somethin'11:09
j2daoshoh...11:09
onkarshindeNo1Viking: check package p3nfs and multisync11:10
j2daoshunknown file system ext311:10
No1VikingoKtosiTe, thanks11:10
j2daoshunknown filesystem /ext311:10
Pygij2daosh: well, have you formated the disk?11:10
Pygipartition*11:10
onkarshindej2daosh: what filesystems did you make on that partitioned drive? It may not be ext311:10
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j2daoshyeah its an ext311:11
mustard5tacosauce, is this your first attempt?11:11
tacosaucemustard5: yes11:11
tacosaucemustard5: well i just tried 3 times in a row11:11
mustard5tacosauce, what type of system are you installing on?11:11
tacosauceAMD Duron11:12
Pygij2daosh: are you sure? ;)11:12
mustard5tacosauce, anything special about the partitions?11:12
j2daosh/dev/hdb2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       111:12
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j2daoshthats what my fstab says11:12
tacosaucemustard5: i have two hard drives. windows is on the master and it's the one i want to overwrite. i want to leave the other one alone.11:12
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ubuntu-newbie-shi11:12
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ubuntu-newbie-si am having problems with sudo gedit all time i get errors11:13
mustard5tacosauce, k  *thinking*11:13
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: what errors?11:13
j2daoshwhat is that errors=remount-ro thing?11:13
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tacosaucemustard5: is there a chance that even though it couldnt detect my DHCP info during installation, that it will work later on?11:13
DrColossusubuntu-newbie-s: gksudo is better for graphical apps... try gksudo gedit11:13
mustard5tacosauce, yeah..you can manual set it up later assuming your hardware is supported11:14
tacosaucemustard5: i once ran freebsd on this exact hardware setup11:14
onkarshindej2daosh: it says that if there is some problem with mounting read/write then it will mount read only. You will know there was error and can make a quick backup11:14
j2daoshwhat the.... fstab is all kinds of fucked up11:14
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ubuntu-newbie-shttp://pastebin.com/46763911:14
mustard5tacosauce, thats a good sign then :)11:14
ubuntu-newbie-shere is the error11:14
burepeubuntu-newbie-s, try sudo nano11:14
j2daoshok...is there a proggie to fix my fstab?11:14
ubuntu-newbie-si am not good usin nanon11:14
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j2daoshit has drives listed that aren't there11:15
mustard5tacosauce, have you tried hitting F1 and looking through some of the special install options?11:15
tacosaucemustard5: yes, but i feel stuck already. i dont know why it would do this. maybe i should just let it sit at the blue screen for 30 minues?11:15
ubuntu-newbie-sare there any other edit programs to use11:15
j2daoshand the ones that it does have aint right11:15
tacosaucemustard5, i briefly glanced but im not sure how they can help11:15
tiglionabbitj2daosh: there is.  Get the xfce fstab manager--  go to Applications -> add programs, and go down to system tools in there and check it11:15
mustard5tacosauce, naah..it shouldnt do that11:15
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sorush20anyone here using dapper?11:15
mustard5tacosauce, I wonder if you actually formatted your windows drive whether it might work11:15
ubuntu-newbie-sgksudo gedit11:15
ubuntu-newbie-s(gedit:8260): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:11:15
ubuntu-newbie-sAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.11:15
tiglionabbitj2daosh: system -> admin -> disks might work for you as well11:15
mustard5tacosauce, do you have a live CD as well as an install CD?11:16
j2daoshok got fstab manager up...11:16
j2daoshnow what lol?11:16
tacosaucemustard5: no just the install11:16
tacosaucemustard5: maybe i should try live?11:16
tiglionabbitj2daosh: now use it11:16
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mustard5tacosauce, hmmm k..yeah..I wonder if you get the liveCD whether you can format the windows drive with that11:17
ubuntu-newbie-swhy no help for me11:17
mustard5tacosauce, then again..you might not want to format if it isnt going to install :)11:17
j2daoshlol i would love to use it but i dont know what is what11:17
mustard5tacosauce, catch22 :)11:17
tacosaucemustard5: haha yeah11:17
j2daoshis / my ubuntu partiotn... or /proc11:17
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j2daoshlol11:17
ubuntu-newbie-swhy no help for me11:17
mustard5tacosauce,  did you burn the ISO yourself?11:18
onkarshindej2daosh: Will you stop typing lol?11:18
sorush20so hotplug is being repalced with udev?11:18
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onkarshindej2daosh: / is ubuntu partition11:18
tacosaucemustard5: yep. followed instructions exactly for NERO11:18
crimsunsorush20: already has been in dapper11:18
mustard5tacosauce, have you verified it at any stage?11:18
mustard5!verify11:18
ubotuI guess verify is to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto11:18
ubuntu-newbie-sheelllo11:18
ubuntu-newbie-sgksudo gedit11:18
ubuntu-newbie-s(gedit:8260): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:11:18
ubuntu-newbie-sAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.11:18
mustard5tacosauce, I would check the installation media first11:18
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mustard5tacosauce, ubotu has the instructions above11:19
crimsunubuntu-newbie-s: please don't flood in here; use #flood or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:19
jackoohow to dual boot windows with ubuntu?11:19
jackooxp11:19
mustard5tacosauce, you might need to download an md5sum checker of some kind in windows11:19
Pygiinstall win, then ubuntu11:19
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: do you have more than one users in your system?11:19
zion_jackoo lilo or grub11:19
ubuntu-newbie-sjust one11:19
onkarshindejackoo: just install Ubuntu and it will do everything for you11:19
ubuntu-newbie-subuntu sucks11:20
mustard5heh11:20
zion_ubuntu-newbie-s go fuck yourself11:20
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burepeha11:20
mustard5watch the language zion_11:20
tacosaucemustard5: i have faith that i made the ISO correctly though. i dont see what could have gone wrong.11:20
zion_kk11:20
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: are you trying to start gedit on remote machine?11:20
burepei really like ubuntu11:20
ubuntu-newbie-si never had problems with other linux distro with editin files11:20
jackooi need both windows and ubuntu11:20
onkarshindejackoo: that is why first install windows and then ubuntu11:21
mustard5tacosauce, there is always the slim chance the ISO was corrupted during the download11:21
ubuntu-newbie-si want to edit my boot when my computer starts my pppoe willl be loaded11:21
zion_ubuntu-newbie-s, tried vi , pico ?11:21
mustard5tacosauce, you can check it using a md5sum checker11:21
onkarshindejackoo: on separate partitions of course11:21
tacosaucemustard5: i accidentally tried to open up the ISO in NERO before it finished downloading. you think that could cause it?11:21
mustard5tacosauce, the md5 hash for the download is on the page you downloaded it from11:21
ubuntu-newbie-swhat the hell u mean i am tryin to make a connection to a remote machine i am using gksudo gedit as u said11:21
ubuntu-newbie-sa-hole11:21
mustard5tacosauce, its always possible11:21
mustard5!ops11:21
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth11:21
jackooi need some helps about partitioning11:21
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: that doesn't need you to edit bootmisc. You can specify that in pppoeconf11:22
[Kismet] Hi all do you know if the pathes used by ubuntu to vanilia kernel and are like that when a driver needs to load a firmware it look for firmwarename.<uname -r> instead of jus firmwarename?11:22
ubuntu-newbie-show11:22
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: sudo pppoeconf and it will ask if you want to start it at boot time.11:22
tacosaucemustard5: im just gonna redownload it and remake the ISO...that'll be fast than this md5 business11:23
mustard5tacosauce, if you like..its up to you :)11:23
tacosaucemustard5: appreciate the help11:23
ubuntu-newbie-sno it does not it asks me for my nic card concectrator11:23
mustard5tacosauce, np11:23
onkarshindetacosauce: you can use jigdo so you can use existing iso and download only difference11:23
jackooonkarshinde:how?11:23
crimsunmustard5: ?11:23
mustard5crimsun, a bit of an exchange going on between ubuntu-newbie-s and zion_11:24
mustard5crimsun, seems to have settled11:24
ubuntu-newbie-show can i make the pppoe will be loaded everty time i start my ubuntu i dont want to run sudo pppoecon evertytime to get insternet connection11:24
onkarshindejackoo: If your drive has only one partition then I suggest you first partition it using some live cd or boot disk11:24
MoodlesI installed the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers, and tried loading the ezquake opengl client and i get these 2 error messages11:25
Moodles8:53:33 pm Moodles2 Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:25
Moodles8:53:33 pm Moodles2 Error: Error couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered, Depth visual11:25
!lilo:*! Restarting that main rotation server in a moment. Prepare for something of a split (about 2,400 users affected).11:25
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: you don't have to run it everytime run it just once and read ever dialog for that option. Try before you cry.11:25
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onkarshindeMoodles: which card or chipset?11:26
ubuntu-newbie-syes i read the dialog i clicked yes11:26
ubuntu-newbie-swhen i reboot i need to start over again with sudo pppoeconf11:26
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: then what is problem?11:26
Moodlesonkarshinde: pci tnt2 m64 with vivo11:26
runevithe kernel is continously spitting out errors such as:11:26
runevi[4332332.726000]  ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }11:26
runevi[4332332.726000]  ata2: called with no error (51)!11:26
runevi..should i be worried? :)11:26
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onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: no you need not. You only need one command 'pon dsl-provider'11:26
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ubuntu-newbie-syes i do that pon dsl-provider i whait 5 min i can not surf11:27
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ubuntu-newbie-si need to run again sudo pppoeconf11:27
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ubuntu-newbie-syes i do that pon dsl-provider i whait 5 min i can not surf11:27
ubuntu-newbie-si need to run again sudo pppoeconf11:27
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sorush20!udev11:27
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Sagehello11:27
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onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: What exact pon command you give?11:28
ubuntu-newbie-spon dsl-provider11:28
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ubuntu-newbie-sand allso sudo pon dsl-provider11:28
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onkarshindeNo sudo needed. After pon you can check log with 'plog -f'11:28
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ubuntu-newbie-s plog -f11:29
ubuntu-newbie-snothing happens11:29
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onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: immediately after you do pon11:30
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: of course on command line11:30
ubuntu-newbie-syes11:31
ubuntu-newbie-sbut if i reboot i need to start over with sudo pppoeconf11:31
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: Can't help you11:32
MrSunshineough11:32
MrSunshineand im downloading the live cd insted of the install cd11:32
MrSunshinesmart move11:32
MrSunshineor?11:32
ubuntu-newbie-si did now11:33
mustard5MrSunshine, are you using a different nick?11:33
ubuntu-newbie-s poff dsl-provider11:33
ubuntu-newbie-s/usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped.11:33
ubuntu-newbie-ssee i killed my connection and i am still online11:33
ubuntu-newbie-sthis is insane11:33
MrSunshinemustard5, why ?11:33
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gib8hi11:33
ubuntu-newbie-shello11:33
mustard5MrSunshine, I'm wondering whether you are tacosauce11:33
MrSunshineno :>11:33
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MrSunshinehad sys2 as nick before :>11:34
mustard5MrSunshine, k :)11:34
onkarshindeubuntu-newbie-s: may be because you started it wih sudo. so will have to kill using sudo kill11:34
mustard5MrSunshine, tacosauce is downloading an ISO too, thats all :)11:34
MrSunshinehehe :P11:34
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MrSunshineluckly i get the isos in under an hour but still ...annoying when you got to 50% and then read live cd :P11:34
sorush20will my hotplug system be safe if I install udev?11:34
mustard5sorush20, I have no idea :)11:35
mustard5sorush20, what does udev do?11:35
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onkarshindesorush20: i don't think udev is replacement of hotplug11:36
mustard5MrSunshine, heh...yes it would be :)11:36
ndlovu!shockwave11:37
ubotuUnfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!11:37
MrSunshinebtw, anyone using the amd64 version?* :>11:37
MrSunshineand know how mature it is?11:38
MrSunshinelast i used an amd64 linux like very package was outdated by 6months :P11:38
sorush20onkarshinde: I don't really know much more about it11:38
runeviMrSunshine: Seems to run allright11:38
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runeviMrSunshine: I use it on my box.11:38
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runevirunevi@shiny:~$ uname -a11:38
runeviLinux shiny 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic #1 Mon Oct 10 13:27:39 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux11:38
MrSunshinerunevi, no package problems etc? :>11:38
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runeviMrSunshine: None yet.11:39
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Pygihow many people ;)11:39
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MrSunshinegreat :>11:39
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sorush20any girls in here?11:39
runeviMrSunshine: except maybe one.11:39
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runeviMrSunshine: I've not gotten my wmv playback in mplayer working yet.11:39
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Pygiwhat is happening? flooding again? :/11:39
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runeviMrSunshine: Has worked on ALL non-amd64 machines.11:39
ndlovu!flash11:39
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runeviMrSunshine: But not certain that it's because of amd64.11:39
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ndlovu!flash11:40
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:40
Pygi!FreeFormats11:40
ubotuhmm... freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:40
onkarshinde!FreeFormats11:41
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Pyginot twice :/11:41
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onkarshindePygi: ubotu is smart11:41
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Pygionkarshide: hehe11:42
morphixhmm.. does anyone know how to install and configure ClamAV so that it has the webinterface and also so that i can scan samba shares?11:42
Seveas!goodmorning11:42
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)11:42
ndlovu:)11:43
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gib8i have a problem with alsa and nvmixer11:44
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gib8how can i disable the nvmixer and use alsa?11:44
ndlovuam I right in thinking that shockwave animations won't work with ubuntu?11:44
morphixur wrong.11:45
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MrSunshinerunevi, ahh .. now i remember.. that stupid codec problem11:45
ndlovumorphix: how can I get them to work?11:45
MrSunshinerunevi, but shouldnt that fix itself as more and more 64bit codecs comes to windows? :>11:45
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morphixi dunno.. but i know i can view shockwave animations.. i just installed shockwave plugins.11:46
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MrSunshinerunevi, or staticly link mplayer in a 32bit environment :>11:47
MrSunshineit will most probably be huge but will run under 64bit and be able to use 32bit codecs :<z11:47
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MrSunshinebtw, are most features already built into the ubuntu packages? .. in gentoo you can select what you want but in ubuntu ? :> ...11:52
SeveasMrSunshine, everything that is ok according to Ubuntu policy is in the packages11:53
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MrSunshineSeveas, k11:53
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MrSunshinedammit :P11:53
morphixdoes anyone know how to install and configure ClamAV so that it has the webinterface and also so that i can scan samba shares?11:54
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onkarshindemorphix: I don't think there is web interface to clamav11:56
mebsdyou want to greatly slow down the already slow samba11:56
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jones-Hello11:58
mustard5welcome jones-11:58
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jones-I'm running Ubuntu/PPC on my iBook, and have this problem: after a 'suspend', often esd won't work anymore11:58
jones-(thanks for the welcome mustard5)11:58
mustard5:)11:58
jones-anybody knows what should I check or something?11:58
Spee_DerGood morning everyone.11:59
mustard5greetings Spee_Der11:59
runeviHmf.  This raid isn't the fastes I've been working with. ;)  Probably the punishment the gods are giving me for making a software raid out of sata. ;D11:59
mebsdgood morning newbies11:59
mustard5jones-, not sure about that one11:59
morphix# Webmin ClamAV11:59
morphix* Supports: clamav11:59
morphixwbmclamav is a webmin module to manage Clam Antivirus written by Emmanuel Saracco.11:59
morphix^^11:59
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samy-ubuntuHi all12:00
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Spee_DerHello samy12:00
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mustard5jones-, check this thread out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57725&highlight=esd+suspend12:02
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samy-ubuntui 'm trying to install beagle 0.1.3 on a Dapper distro, but when i try to compile , i've got an error message saying that  Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2 firefox-gtkmozembed) were not met , and i don't know where i can get this stuff12:03
jones-checkin12:03
mustard5jones-, its pretty sparse, but its an angle :)12:03
Spee_Dersamy12:04
onkarshindesamy-ubuntu: isn't beagle already in repos?12:04
Seveasonkarshinde, it is12:04
Spee_DerI was just reading the how-to's12:04
Seveassamy-ubuntu, apt-get install beagle12:04
samy-ubuntuit is, but when i run it, best doesn't want to launch12:05
mebsdwtf is beagle12:05
Seveasdesktop search thingie12:05
Seveasreally cool, really fragile12:05
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kane77morning everybody...12:07
samy-ubuntuGot a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates12:07
samy-ubuntua fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries12:07
samy-ubuntuused by your application.12:07
samy-ubuntu it's what the screen displays when i try to run Best12:07
bunglebeagle rocks12:07
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robotgeekbungle: long time, agreed. beagle rocks :)12:07
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[Kismet] Do you know I can I get infomation on the version of ipw2200 driver?12:15
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(ArkticWolf/#ubuntu) that.. was a pretty big netsplit.12:28
(wol_/#ubuntu) hello12:28
(mahangu_/#ubuntu) yeah12:28
(mahangu_/#ubuntu) pretty big alright12:28
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(wol_/#ubuntu) please guide me for dialing 56 kbps modem12:28
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(jenda/#ubuntu) wtf12:29
(dkg/#ubuntu) is there a channel for ubuntu server?12:29
(jenda/#ubuntu) dkg: me don't think so12:29
(Hobbsee/#ubuntu) jenda: server problems with freenode - they're fixing it12:29
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=== #ubuntu [freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks!
ArkticWolfwol_: To start you off you'd want to use wvdial, it's the easyest dialup program i've used; sudo apt-get install wvdial12:30
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burepeHobbsee, what were thoes help commands? I got ops again12:30
jendaHobbsee: OK. will irc.freenode.net be up anytime soon?12:30
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jendayeah...12:32
gtk2ArkticWolf, now THAT was a pretty big netsplit.12:32
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ArkticWolfI stand corrected.12:32
Hobbseehehe12:32
bunglesure was12:33
Hobbseepretty purple wave here...12:33
bunglevery quick though12:33
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ArkticWolfpretty blue wave here12:33
bunglegreen one here12:34
gtk2bungle, <x rated="yes">everything on freenode is fast.</x>12:34
gtk2well, mine was brown followed by green.12:34
gtk2which reminds me of spring.12:34
bunglelol12:34
silvertongtk2, werd12:34
gtk2forra love that 1/493 op to user ratio.12:35
ArkticWolfmine reminds me of.. snow and ...dirt :/12:35
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gtk2i needed to be reminded of spring, thank you freenode12:35
gtk2<3 freenode12:35
gtk2on a side note, it's FREEZING here. :(12:36
ArkticWolflol.12:36
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gtk2oh, while it's quiet and not insane here...12:37
gib8i think for ArkticWolf its the best temperature ;)12:37
gtk2anyone have any idea why ubuntu is SO far behind on dbus? x.x;12:37
gtk2dbus is up to 0.6, ubuntu is way back at 0.31 i believe.12:37
gib8what can i do when my soundmodul for my card is defect? can i install that modul new?12:38
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gtk2gib8, hm... how exactly is it defective?12:39
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ArkticWolfnah, bugger that..lol12:40
fallshello , I use ubuntu 5.10 , but I can't search kdevelop/anjuta , where can I find them ?12:40
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=== jenda is freezin' at -7 degrees...
ArkticWolffalls: Have you enabled the universe repositories?12:41
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gib8gtk2, /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko12:41
gib8/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/pci/korg1212/snd-korg1212.ko12:41
gib8charly@kjb-ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe snd-ac97-codec12:41
gib8Password:12:41
gib8charly@kjb-ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards12:41
gib8--- no soundcards ---12:41
gib8charly@kjb-ubuntu:~$12:41
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gtk2gib8, it's not currupt, there's something else going on.12:42
gib8gtk2, i installed the audiodrivers form the nforce and they r working not fine12:42
gib8and now i wanna have the old drivers back12:42
gtk2if it were corrupt, it'd throw out strange errors at you.12:42
gib8or a way to get alsa worked with my card ;)12:43
gtk2gib8, have you tried looking at the forums? i'm not very good with this stuff ;)12:43
gtk2there's some very nice alsa guides on the forums.12:43
gib8gtk2, yes i did intalling it like descripted in the german-wiki12:43
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gtk2another round please, sir?12:46
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ArkticWolfpfft. you call that a netsplit, weak effort :\12:47
kane__so we have another spring... :)12:47
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gtk2and there goes seveas's ops. ;)12:47
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gtk2kane__, i'm feeling warmer already. :D12:47
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bunglebye12:49
d34thhola?12:49
bungleand welcome back lol12:49
jenda_busyhalo12:49
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[Kismet] Hi12:50
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d34thy toda esta pea?12:50
morphixcan i install something in ubuntu using red hat/fedora rpm files?12:50
ArkticWolfnow *That's* a netsplit.12:50
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jenda_busymorphix: you can use alien12:51
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phyburnwhere would i find my x11 file to config my reslution12:51
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ArkticWolfmorphix: look at alien.  it's a package converter you can use to comvert rpm to deb for installation.12:51
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morphixi used that12:51
morphixbut it didnt work.12:51
pizuxis there anyway to change between gdm and kdm at startup?12:51
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jenda_busymorphix: describe the error12:51
ArkticWolfphyburn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:51
bunglewhat u tryong to install morphix ?12:51
phyburnArkticWolf thanks12:52
morphixmcafee linuxshield.12:52
morphixthere is no executable file.12:52
robotgeekphyburn: if you have both, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:52
ArkticWolfnp.12:52
bungleoh ok12:52
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bunglewhat is that anyway morphix ?12:53
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bungleive never heard of it morphix12:53
morphixanti-virus12:53
jenda_busyI've heard of it...12:53
bungleok12:53
jenda_busywhen you "sudo alien blahmcafeeblah.rpm" what happens?12:54
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echohello there!12:54
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Hobbseehey echo12:55
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echoI have a serious problem with my ubuntu...12:56
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morphix:(12:56
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echoI use it on a laptop (hp nx8220) and the mousepad i fukkked up, like half of it is used to scroll horizintal... :p12:57
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zion_i have sheared folder .. trying to open it from winxp machine it asks me for a password and name .. which one is it ?/12:58
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gtk2this is just so fun.12:58
zion_splits pisses me off12:58
zion_i have sheared folder .. trying to open it from winxp machine it asks me for a password and name .. which one is it ?12:58
gtk2zion_, cant be avoided, blame the bots.12:58
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ArkticWolfwhen 5 of them happen in 20 minutes, it gets on the annoying side.12:58
zion_not blaming any one12:58
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Marxistit's bearable12:59
gtk2ArkticWolf, they're cycling ALL hte freenode servers to apply the patch against bots, what do you expect?12:59
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echowho invented spilts, im gonna split them!12:59
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echoI use Ubuntu on a laptop (hp nx8220) and the mousepad i fukkked up, like half of it is used to scroll horizintal... :<12:59
ArkticWolfgtk2: i want to be splitted, eveyone else gets a ride and i dont :(12:59
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gtk2ArkticWolf, you did get split ;)01:00
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ArkticWolfi did? i just got disconnected, and I had to reconnect myself :/01:00
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gtk2ArkticWolf, heh, your server split just before that. ;)01:00
ArkticWolfoh.01:01
sciboyHey guys, i am having issues with the latest NVIDIA driver under Debian, 2 channels are better than one. =P01:01
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flankkIs there an application to download and transfer podcasts to an iPod?  I can't seem to find anything.01:01
Hoxzerhey hey guys01:01
Hoxzermaan freenode finally working01:01
HoxzerI can continue asking questions01:01
zion_can some one help me with shares ?01:02
sciboySo after installing 8174 via. module-assistant, i startx and my screen goes blank.01:02
Hoxzerso where do I need to save .dll files so wine can use them?01:02
sciboyI can't CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+BCKSPACE, nothing. So i have to hard reboot.01:02
sciboyIs there any news of such problems?01:02
ArkticWolfwine should be able to use DLL files relative to the applications directory when they are called01:02
sciboyUnfortunately i don't have access to a graphical enviroment at the moment.01:03
flankkHello?01:03
sciboyG'day.01:03
HoxzerArktic: so if program paska needs dll file pillu.dll I just save it to where I have install paska?01:03
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ArkticWolfflankk: i don't think so, but i'm not sure, google it01:03
Hoxzer*installed01:04
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ArkticWolfHoxzer: try it, can't hurt01:04
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silvertonsciboy, edit your xorg.conf file, replace the "nvidia" driver with "nv" and you'll be set for a gui, as for the nvidia driver, hang on01:05
Hoxzerok, will do01:05
silvertonsciboy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507401:05
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ArkticWolfbrb.01:05
flankkArkticWolf, I have, and came up with nothing.  Lots of stuff about podcasting, which is easy as pie.  I can't just write a bash script because there are playlist databases on the ipod that need to be edited.  gtkpod uses them.. but doesn't deal with podcasts.  I'd like to think this would be a common question..01:05
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sciboyYay text-mode browsers.01:06
silvertonk, don't need narration :P01:06
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defiance`Hmm.01:06
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runeviBut in ubuntu - bc isn't included by default! ;)  (Yes, I consider that a bug ;)01:07
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runeviBug.01:08
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sciboyBrb, switching to X.01:09
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burepeCan anyone tell me something about tv tuner cards?01:10
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ndlovu!mpg01:12
ubotundlovu: Not a clue01:12
ndlovucan somebody help me figure out why I get pink and blue lines when viewing a .mpeg in Totem?01:12
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ndlovuI've installed gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg w32codecs...01:13
ndlovufile tells me warriors-700-VBR.mpeg: MPEG sequence, v1, system multiplex01:14
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funkyHatI have a big problem with apt...01:15
silvertonokay...01:15
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funkyHatIt looks like it just can't see any packages01:15
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silverton0.o01:15
funkyHatno matter what I put in after sudo apt-get install I always get E: Couldn't find package01:16
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funkyHatand then either the name of the package or a DIRECTORY in the path I specified01:16
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funkyHat:/ And since when did Ubuntu apt have super cow powers?01:17
silverton...01:17
silvertondude01:18
silvertonapt has super cow powers period01:18
silvertonnoduh ;D01:18
funkyHatDebian apt always did, but Ubuntu apt never used to :P01:18
funkyHatI swear it :P01:18
silvertonfunkyHat, try sudo apt-get update01:18
funkyHatARGH01:18
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ArkticWolfIn Flames - Trigger01:19
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ArkticWolf:D01:19
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funkyHatIt was dpkg I wanted wasn't it *'_'*01:19
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silvertonwhat you have .deb files downloaded and you're trying to install those?01:20
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ProN00bi need a tutorial on how to set up ubuntu as an internet gateway for my lan, can anyone point me some tutorial ? (lan on eth0, internet on ppp0 pppoe oveer eth1)01:20
funkyHatsilverton, Yeah haha, mental block. It's gone now, everything's working find01:20
funkyHat*fine01:20
silvertondpkg -i foo.deb ;D01:21
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ProN00bteh help !01:21
ddaaDuh01:21
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ddaawhat's the proper package to file a bug against?01:22
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ProN00bdoes anyone have a tutorial for setting up ubuntu as an gateway ?01:23
zion_i think any  other tutorial on setting up a gateway will work aswell01:23
ProN00bzion_, do you have one ?01:24
ndlovuif a video's not playing in totem, am I likely to have more luck installing xine-ui or mplayer?01:24
zion_nope .. but i thing google might have01:24
rob_pProN00b:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/01:24
ArkticWolfProN00b: I'm not aware of one, but I can show you how to do NAT from ppp0 to your LAN?01:24
ddaathere's a famous howto from Rusty Russel about NAT01:25
pmabhi, ive just installed ubuntu, but networking seems really dodgy...01:25
ArkticWolfeasily done via iptables, few lines of script.01:25
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zokaHe people01:25
ProN00bArkticWolf, would apreciate that01:25
ArkticWolfOkay, hold on01:26
zokawhich distribution would you recomend me for internet club at my univercity01:26
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zokaedu variant or noraml dist01:26
ArkticWolfUbuntu is fine, I use it here01:26
zokaedu variant looks like for primary school01:27
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ArkticWolfProN00b: http://www.wolfbox.kicks-ass.net/ipmasq.sh << That is my NAT script.  works perfectly for me, blocks some ports, but leaves others open.  excuse the slowness, i'm uploading and downloading full knockers01:28
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sciboyOkey, now this is interesting... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=34318601:28
jenda_busyHey - waht's better: 512 megs of RAM or two pieces @ 256 each?01:29
sciboyEven more so, cause it's coming from another user of a Toshiba laptop.01:29
jenda_busyPS: urgent :)01:29
ArkticWolf2 sticks of 256MB is better01:29
ArkticWolfproviding it's DDR01:29
ProN00bArkticWolf, what you mean, which ports are open to the internet with that, the one of the gateway, or the one of the box in the lan ?01:29
jenda_busyArkticWolf: thanks01:29
ArkticWolfports are open to the gateway01:29
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ArkticWolfand the gateway only01:30
ArkticWolfonly if you forward ports, will the be open to the specified LAN IP01:30
ArkticWolfthey*01:30
ProN00bwhy is it dropping 139 and 445 then ?01:30
ProN00bubuntu doesn't usually got those ports open *_*01:30
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ArkticWolfcause I run samba on this box, things like to dump windoze viruses on it.01:30
ArkticWolfyou don't need the last 2 lines also.01:31
ProN00biptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXT_IF -j MASQUERADE01:31
ProN00bthats all i need ?01:31
ProN00bhow can i disable that line again ?01:31
ArkticWolfand echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward01:31
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sdakotahi guys01:32
ProN00bhow can i disable that iptables line again ?01:32
sdakotathe apt package that has most dependancies....01:32
sciboyOkey, i believe i am suffering from the same bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343186 : and i find it even more suspicious considering that i am using a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S505, and the user reports using a toshiba laptop aswell.01:32
sdakotaI think it's kde, it wants to install about 300 packages01:33
sdakotasciboy, that's debian.org, this is #ubuntu.01:33
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pinkisntwelldoes anyone else here think that ubuntu's fonts for firefox suck big time?01:34
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ProN00bArkticWolf, can you tell me how to disable that again ?01:34
sdakotaeuhh... X-Window is installed but startx doesn't work ... how to start up X-Window?01:34
ArkticWolfPron00b: iptables -t nat -D <rule number>01:35
ArkticWolfyou will have to do iptables -t nat -L01:35
ArkticWolfand look at the number it is01:35
ddaapinkisntwell: I disagree. I do have to adjust the default size of the monospace font to match the normal font, but otherwise it's great.01:35
sciboysdakota: I fail to see the point.01:35
sciboysdakota: The same problem would apply under Ubuntu aswell.01:35
Muldy will a module compiled for ia-32 kernel work on the x86-64 kernel?01:35
ArkticWolfand to disable outgoing packet switching, do `echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/forward01:36
sciboyMuldy: I doubt it, we are talking kernel modules after all.01:36
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pinkisntwellddaa: also greek fonts, I had to install msttcorefonts to make greek fonts bearable in firefox01:37
Muldysciboy, hmmm yeah.. probably wishful thinking heh01:37
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sdakotaso how to start the x-window system?01:37
robotgeekpinkisntwell: install gsfonts-x11, msttcorefonts and see if that helps01:38
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ProN00bArkticWolf, what number ? *_*01:38
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ArkticWolfiptables -t nat -L to see what it is01:38
ArkticWolfit should be 101:38
pinkisntwellrobotgeek: yes, but it's *really* ugly needing to install ms fonts on a linux system out of the box01:38
ArkticWolfif it claims about index deletion too big you already deleted it01:38
meepywhats the command to show all the info about your linux box in console? :) Like mhz, gcc version, graphic card and so on?01:39
LCamelsdakota: maybe there are some messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?01:39
robotgeekpinkisntwell: maybe you need to reconfigure your fonts rendering01:39
pinkisntwellrobotgeek: meaning?01:39
Muldywhat's the url of a ubuntu package repository?01:39
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robotgeekpinkisntwell: is this a lcd, cause my fonts are sweet01:39
ProN00bArkticWolf, there is not a single number when i run that command, only something like "MASQUERADE  all  --  anywhere             anywhere01:39
ProN00b"01:39
Muldyi'm in windows, and i need to manually download a few packages01:40
ArkticWolfyeah01:40
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ArkticWolfPron00b: is it the first one?01:40
pinkisntwellrobotgeek: no, this is a crt01:40
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sdakotaLCamel: No, Just noticed, I forgot to install x-window-system-core package, probably startx is in that01:40
robotgeekpinkisntwell: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig01:40
bimberiMuldy: http://packages.ubuntu.com01:40
StormxYay freenode is back01:40
Stormxwhat happened to it?01:40
ProN00bArkticWolf, no, there is other stuff01:40
ProN00bbut it seems to be the first rule01:41
ArkticWolfokay, well what number is it in the list?01:41
ArkticWolfyou have to count yourself01:41
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joedjmeepy: linuxinfo will give you some of it01:41
ProN00bits the first and only rule i see when running that command, ArkticWolf01:41
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ArkticWolfokay01:41
ArkticWolfuse number 101:41
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ArkticWolfiptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 101:42
meepyHmm01:42
bimberiStormx: i think it underwent some configuration changes - as an anti spambot measure01:42
joedjmeepy: sudo apt-get install linuxinfo if you don't have it01:42
ArkticWolfwill clear the rule01:42
Stormxbimberi: Goodo01:42
robotgeekpinkisntwell: did that help?01:42
Muldybimberi, cheers, but i was thinking more along the lines of where the packages would actually lie, so that i can dig around and find an actual link to download it via firefox. i dont have the luxury of synaptic/apt-get right now01:42
ProN00biptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?)01:42
robotgeekMuldy: you can always download from packages.ubuntu.com01:42
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bimberiMuldy: you can search for and download the packages (.deb files) via that site01:43
pinkisntwellrobotgeek: i can configure them from system -> prefs -> fonts, no?01:43
Muldyoh01:43
meepythanks01:43
robotgeekpinkisntwell: hmm, not sure. maybe, maybe not01:43
Muldyrobotgeek, bimberi : i see the links now. i missed htem in my gloss over before. cheers.01:43
ProN00bworks, thanks, ArkticWolf01:43
pinkisntwellrobotgeek: ok, i'll take a look01:43
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ArkticWolfnp.01:44
ArkticWolfon that note i'm going to play some games.01:44
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bimberiMuldy: np :) (btw http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ might have been what you had in mind but the packages site might be better)01:45
Muldybimberi, cheers01:46
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Toba!tell me about distupgrade01:47
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sdakotauuh - one question -- would it be a good idea to make a way to make ubuntu as easy as windows in some things? For example, that new Linux users get a good impression of it! Euh, like a program that tells the user about what to do if they want to do something (like if they want to make an article, use OpenOffice which looks like Word, etc etc)01:48
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ganJi   01:49
ganJi01:49
sdakotaganJi: ?01:49
ganJikhaha01:49
ganJinee niche01:50
rob1no01:50
Tobasdakota: basically the control panel in xp mode?01:50
Tobabut for linux?01:50
ganJia vi vse inostrancy chto li?01:50
sdakotaToba: Yes and no -- let me explain a bit......01:50
Tobak01:50
Tobathis sounds somewhat interesting for new people01:50
ajmitchganJi: english in here, please01:50
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sdakotaToba: In windows, people download EXE's and run them, these EXE's do everything for them and they don't have to do anything (in most situations)01:51
Tobaheh01:51
Tobathat's a bad thing.01:51
ndlovuwhen I play video I can hear audio but only see strange green and pink lines (in any player) - is this likely to be the codec or my graphics setup or what?01:51
Tobabecause guess what?  The installers are not standardized.01:51
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Tobandlovu: codecs01:51
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Tobahvae you tried using VLC?01:52
sdakotaToba: If installing a program needs a little more maintenance then that, general people will fail to install the program correctly, they need someone who knows more about computers to install the program for them01:52
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Tobasdakota: that's what repositories are for01:52
Tobathey work great01:52
ndlovu!vlc01:52
uboturumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)01:52
ndlovutoba: thanks, will try that01:52
Toba:)01:52
Tobanp01:52
ganJiposhli vy vse inostrannie urodi...01:52
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sdakotaToba: Now - in linux situations... people can't just download a file and run it etc.01:53
Tobayes they can.01:53
Tobalook at firefox.01:53
sdakotaToba: Most programs can only be installed using the console01:53
Toba1.5 is not yet in the repos by I installed it that way01:53
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Tobasdakota: well that's not the fault of the distro01:53
Hoxzerwhere does apt-get save .deb files it downloads?01:53
Tobathat's the fault of the people making the program01:54
Tobaif they put it in the community maintained repositories then it's easier01:54
sdakotaToba: I know, yes01:54
jkHoxzer:  /var/cache/apt/archives01:54
Hoxzerthx01:54
Tobamost people, having been used to windows, can't get used to looking in the repository for what they need instead of googling though01:54
Tobathe repositories have nearly everything you will ever want01:54
sdakotaToba: I know01:55
sdakotaToba: but even aptitude is more then general Windows people can do01:55
jkevery software project should build ubuntu debs and ubuntu should make debs executable, making it automatically download dependencies ;-)01:55
Tobasdakota: that's why we have synaptic01:55
Tobajk: that, sir, is an awesome idea.01:55
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sdakotaToba, jk: Thats exactly what I mean!01:56
jkToba: in Dapper, it's already possible to just doubleclick on a .deb to install it afaik01:56
Tobajk: 6.04?01:56
funkyHatnice01:56
Tobathat's awesome....01:56
Tobaanyways01:56
sdakotaToba, jk: they just download a file, or click a file, or whatever, and everything is being done for them in a comfortable environment01:56
Tobaheh01:56
Tobalazy asses01:56
Tobabut I know what you mean01:56
Tobahrm01:56
TobaI just did dist-upgrade01:57
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sdakotaToba, jk: Heh ^^ I could just go in commercial industriy ^_^01:57
Tobaso am I now using breezy? o_001:57
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sdakotaToba: No, you need to edit sources.list too for that01:57
Tobao rly01:57
Tobaoh to use the new repos01:57
Tobadurrr01:57
Tobain /etc right?01:57
sdakotafunkyHat: Yea, it needs protection to that too01:57
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funkyHatsdakota, how would one go about creating this protection though?01:58
sdakotafor example, a smart program01:58
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sdakotafunkyHat, Very easy! It won't download from everywhere, but with a special program that only downloads from a secure host - and md5 can also be used ^^01:58
HoxzerOMG01:58
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funkyHatsdakota, may as well use synaptic then, if it will only download from a certain list of hosts01:59
arod_I'm unable to install 'permit cookies' extension. any hint?01:59
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arod_https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=44&application=firefox01:59
sdakotafunkyHat: Think about 2 types of servers: One will contain all MD5 sums, and the other will have all the files - there is only 1 md5-server and lots of the other types01:59
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shadeofgreyhey01:59
sdakotafunkyHat, Even synaptic is out of the range for usual Windows users01:59
shadeofgreyanybody know of a good sources.list file for upgrading to dapper?02:00
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funkyHatsdakota, sounds good, but that requires that either the developers of all those pacakges register with ubuntu + every other distro that takes the idea on board,02:00
funkyHator you have ubuntu engineers running about collecting the .debs and putting up the md5s02:00
sdakotafunkyHat, yup....02:00
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funkyHatI don't think either of those options is 100% viable02:01
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funkyHatAs both sides can argue why should we bother02:01
sdakotafunkyHat, an md5 is easily made - Programmers can create a program, upload the source code to some automatic program, this program creates a .deb and a md5, uploads both to the main server, and all mirror servers download the .deb from the main server, and you're done02:01
shadeofgreyokay look02:02
shadeofgreyi need to know something02:02
shadeofgreyif i upgrade to dapper am i going to lose my install of FF 1.5 which i installed manually?02:02
funkyHatsdakota, and make provisions for programmers that don't want to release their source code02:02
shadeofgreybecause i upgraded to 1.5 on my own02:02
shadeofgreybecausethe ubuntu version of 1.5 is dog ass slow02:02
sdakotafunkyHat: It will increase the use of Linux due to the easy usability, and thus increase the attention for other programmers and game makers, and as soon as some games start coming out for linux, the use will increase even more02:02
wimhmmm ,the source code of FF is available, right?02:03
shadeofgreytrue02:03
shadeofgreywim:  you can get the tarball off mozilla.org right now02:03
funkyHatshadeofgrey, You might not loose it, but if you don't uninstall before upgrading, you might break all sorts of things02:03
funkyHatshadeofgrey, where have you installed ff1.5?02:03
sdakotafunkyHat: Ok - but what about this - the source code is securily (SSL) being uploaded to the Main Server, and the source code is saved encrypted02:03
shadeofgreyuhm...  opt/firefox i think02:03
funkyHatsdakota, how do you assure the programmers of that? why not simply allow them to upload the binary packages?02:04
shadeofgreyhow the hell do i manually uninstall ff 1.502:04
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shadeofgreyi never thought about that02:04
shadeofgreydamn02:04
funkyHatshadeofgrey, you'll be fine then, it won't break stuff02:04
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wimshadeofgrey, cheers found it02:04
shadeofgreylook02:05
funkyHatshadeofgrey, to uninstall, sudo make uninstall (when in the source directory)02:05
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shadeofgreyall i need to work is FF openoffice and thunderbird and xchat02:05
shadeofgreyi just wanna see dapper cause everybody says its off the chain02:05
Muldyare they integrating any tpm stuff into dapper/02:06
rob1I have dapper working on my laptop02:06
shadeofgreyi just TOTALLY dont want to end up with the situation i had the first time i installed breezy02:06
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rob1few bugs though02:06
mojoanyone got good links to help me get my roms working with XMAME in Ubuntu?02:06
shadeofgreynuked my whole damn install and had to start from scratch02:06
sdakotafunkyHat: Because ...02:06
shadeofgreyi was PISSED02:06
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shadeofgreyi thgink im going to pussy out and just wait02:07
funkyHatsdakota, because?02:07
funkyHat:P02:07
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tautauHi guys, give me pls HOWTO to configure audio mixing.02:07
sdakotafunkyHat: Bad programmers could change things on their system ... maybe ... you never know, they could mess things up if providing bad binaries (or something)02:07
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funkyHatThe problem is, with your system, malicious programmers can still upload malicios code, and even have it automatically packaged for them for various distributions02:07
tautauThe one I used is not working http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly02:08
wimi remember reading somewhere that it should be possible to compile FF in 32 bit mode or something to make flash work on my 64 bit os, is this correct=?02:08
antisocial_boriscan anyone help me get my wireless network card working?02:08
shadeofgreyDONT USE UBUNTUGUIDE02:08
shadeofgreyits oooooooooooooolllllllllddddddddddddd02:08
tautauoki I understood this already02:08
sdakotafunkyHat: Yea - that's true, but there could be some volunteers that check source code (there are a lot of people who do that now already)02:08
funkyHatIt's old and was never recommended anyway02:08
tautauI know but cant find anything better in Google02:09
shadeofgreyfunkyhat:  what do you rthink are the odds that my system will nuke if i go to dapper?  did i mention i haver an nvidia graphics card02:09
funkyHatshadeofgrey, your FF won't be an issue as you put it in /opt02:09
mojoshadeofgrey: hey try a small partition and test it, don't blast over your working install if you don't want to risk it yet.02:09
shadeofgreywell02:10
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funkyHatshadeofgrey, but... dapper less than 2 months old... not frozen yet (am I right?) and likely to be very very buggy02:10
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shadeofgreyyeah true that.  im waiting02:10
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tautaufunkyHat, so how should I configure it?02:10
sdakotafunkyHat: I think KDE is already a perfect step in the good way - it is a lot like Windows and has a lot of things that work similar to Windows02:10
grabakovHi, I found this channel through the ubuntu support page.02:10
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grabakovI have just installed ubuntu and I am have some problems.02:10
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shadeofgreymy grammer sucked there02:11
funkyHatI can't really give a definite answer, I upgraded to breezy 2 months before release and had not a single problem, but not everyone had the same luck as me ;)02:11
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grabakovWhen the install has finished, I get an xwindows error.02:11
shadeofgreybut whatever i havent slept in 32 hours02:11
mojograbakov: yep, this is the right place02:11
miketechgood morning02:11
funkyHatlol02:11
sdakotafunkyHat: Not that I admire windows .. i'm forced to use it because I sometimes play games too02:11
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dylan_i have the lm-sensors applet enabled.  it says my computer is at about 120 farenheit...what is a dangerous temperature?02:11
grabakovIt states that it cannot load gdm.02:11
sdakotashadeofgrey, 32 hours? Take a nap! The only time I didn't sleep for (more than) 32 hours is when I went to Canada - couldn't sleep the night before, couldn't sleep in the plane and couldn't sleep there o.O02:11
grabakovI have no idea where to go from here :(02:11
ndlovu_how can I check which graphics card I have? cat /proc/pci reveals nothing...02:12
Chousukedylan_: What's that in centigrade? ;P02:12
dylan_Chousuke, no F02:12
tautaudylan_, convert it to normal temprature, celsius or kelvin02:12
alexissofthi02:12
shadeofgreysdakota:  nah im good...  i had a few cups of coffee and three cigarettes im ready to write another forty pages on my newst novel02:12
grabakovmojo, I certainly hope so.02:12
Chousukeoh, it's about 50 C02:12
funkyHattautau, check out the ubuntu wiki, I don't really know how to configure sound properly as my system is a bit... unusual :P02:12
dylan_tautau, 50.0 C02:12
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sdakotafunkyHat: just finished installing Ubuntu in VMWare - could you name me a good IRC client ?02:12
Chousukeno, it shouldn't be dangerous.02:12
shadeofgreyi just wissh i could find another person to write with. ive never tagteamed on any fiction and would like to try02:13
funkyHatsdakota, x-chat02:13
kyncanindlovu: use hal-device-manager02:13
tautaudylan_, its high but normal02:13
shadeofgreysdakota:  xchat!02:13
funkyHatsdakota, I believe it's already installed02:13
sdakotashadeofgrey, I could try to help you - but I'm not very good at writing novels - in fact, I never tried02:13
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grabakovIt is strange, I have installed ubuntu three times now and I get the same error.02:13
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tautaufunkyHat, thx02:13
grabakovDoes anybody have an idea?02:13
CarinArrhey.. has anyone got the dev version of kdevelop4 installed successfully? i'm having some compilation errors I can't quite fix02:13
sdakotafunkyHat, shadeofgrey, ok, relogging in ^^02:13
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dylan_tautau, should i add another fan?02:13
shadeofgreygrabakov:  what kind of graphics hardware are you using?02:13
mojograbakov: what hardware you running?  (esp. graphics card info)02:14
dylan_tautau, i have a PCI exhaust fan, but it was loud....should i pop it back in?02:14
tautauWhich CPU do U using?02:14
grabakovshadeofgrey: It's bog-standard radeon crap for laptops.02:14
shadeofgreygrabakov:  if its ati anything, go buy an nvidia card.  ati linux support blows rancid ardvark balls02:14
ndlovu_kyncani: thanks :)02:14
kyncaninp02:14
spacey_kiati should work fine02:14
shadeofgreyraedon is the problem.02:14
zpartais it possible to change the order the kernel loads modules ?02:14
Chousukeshadeofgrey: older cards work with free drivers.02:14
zpartai want to have my ite raid controller load before device-mapper02:14
shadeofgreyive NEVER seen an ati anythging boot ubuntu successfully02:15
tautauMine is AMD they more cold then Intel ovens. About 10 clecius.02:15
grabakovshadeofgrey: So I won't be able to run Ubuntu on Radeon?02:15
Plshm02:15
grabakovshadeofgrey: not even with drivers?02:15
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tautaudylan_,  I think 50 C is all right02:15
shadeofgreygrabakov:  in my persdonal opinion, you should ditch the ati shit if you can02:15
shadeofgreyif you cant02:15
shadeofgreytry old drivers02:15
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grabakovshadeofgrey, it's a laptop ;)02:16
djm62I've used ubuntu with an ATI graphics card02:16
shadeofgreyold  old old02:16
tautaudylan_, But I have about 30C, 29-3302:16
djm62but ATI aren't making it easy on themselves02:16
grabakovdjm62, and you did this without incident?02:16
Moodlesi have a crashed fullscreen 3d opengl app, is there a ctrl+alt+delete for ubuntu/gnome02:16
Plshow to load Ubuntu on SATA hard drives? my installation stops in grub install proccess.. ?02:16
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shadeofgreymoo:  no but theres a button you can assign to your launcher panel  called forcequit02:16
kyncaniMoodles: goto console and kill the app from there ?02:17
funkyHatsdakota, irc.ubuntu... is freenode btw02:17
rudi__any specific drivers I should install to get trident cyberblade working properly?02:17
shadeofgreyMoodles:  right click on the top status bar and select add to panel, select forcequit, and then use it to close the misbehaving app02:17
grabakovBut that's bizarre though - how could they release a product that didn't have support for the most popular gfx brand?02:17
Moodlesi cant see the desktop at all, just the artifacting 3d ap02:17
shadeofgreygrabakov:  no you have it backwards.  ati hasnt weritten GOOD linux drivers ever02:18
djm62grabakov: it's not a choice...ati have chosed not to support linux, they are at fault02:18
miketechhm will Xorg 7.0 be included in Ubuntu dapper?02:18
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kyncaniMoodles: go to console (ctrl+alt+f1)02:18
grabakovWow. I have always supported ATI... I had no idea.02:18
shadeofgreygrabakov: thats why they suck rancid ardvark balls from here to wherevver and back again02:18
grabakovardvark ey? ;)02:18
grabakovWhere are you from shadeofgrey?02:18
shadeofgreyif you wanna run linux buy nvidia02:18
shadeofgreygrabakov:  usa.02:19
djm62grabakov: they'll support it as soon as it boosts profits, which will be a couple of years, most likely02:19
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Chousukeshadeofgrey: OR and older Radeon that works with the Free drivers.02:19
grabakovshadeofgrey, then I need a new computer...02:19
Chousuke:P02:19
ChousukeWhat radeon do you have?02:19
Chousukean*02:19
Chousuke:P02:19
frogzooany ideas why my qemu xp install stops when the window loses focus?02:19
shadeofgreyor like chousuke said...  use the free drivers02:19
grabakovChousuke, never bothered to check... one sec02:19
u|qosis there a possibility to get an overview about all running transfers of vsftpd`?02:19
Nomikos02:20
grabakovChousuke, XPRESS 200M02:20
Chousukeok, wtf is that. :P02:20
zpartais it possible to change the order the kernel loads modules ?02:20
grabakovChousuke, hahaha... well, that's my problem really...02:20
Chousukeis it like 9250 or older?02:20
Chousuke;P02:20
grabakovIt's a mobile card...02:20
funkyHatack02:21
shadeofgreyi want a 30" cinema display...  i want one so bad id sell a kidney to get one02:21
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Chousukearfg02:21
funkyHatThat always makes me laugh02:21
kyncanizparta: /etc/modules i believe02:21
funkyHathow can 30" be compared to a Cinema?02:21
grabakovChousuke, will, umm... free drivers still work?02:21
Chousukethose  would be deadly to your neck.02:21
Nomikosi did some backup'ing and partitioning under OS X on the same disk that has the Ubuntu partition (but didn't touch that knowingly), and now booting back into linux i get "/pci@[etcetcetc] disk@1:12,/boot/vmlinux: Unknown or corrupt filesystem". am i up the proverbial creek without a paddle?02:21
Chousukegrabakov: try.02:21
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grabakovChousuke, well of course :p02:21
shadeofgreynomasteryoda|w:  uh...  prolly02:21
shadeofgreynomik:  uh prolly02:22
Chousukeanyway.02:22
ChousukeI think I might go to the store now.02:22
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funkyHatGuys.... I thought that ATI did work no problem without acceleration (a bit of a downer I know, but better than having no X)02:22
Nomikosshadeofgrey: botheration. suggestions on how to recover some of the data?02:22
zpartakyncani: when is that file read ?02:22
shadeofgreyNomikos:  pray?02:22
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ChousukefunkyHat: yeah it does.02:23
shadeofgreyNomikos:  well... wait...  what version of os-x is it?02:23
djm62zparta: if you want to rearrange the order in which all the modules are loaded, /etc/modules, if you want to load a module before a bit of the init, /etc/init.d and the things that link to it (put a spare script in)02:23
funkyHatI use Nvidia anyways ;)02:23
Nomikosshadeofgrey: 10.3.9 so latest panther. tried mounting the partitions on that, but not much luck.. not 100% sure i'm doing it right though02:23
Moodlesis there any linux opengl benchmarkers, like 3dmark for windows?02:23
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u|qosis there a possibility to get an overview about all running transfers of vsftpd`?02:24
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djm62funkyHat: how annoying are the proprietary drivers?02:24
Nomikosshadeofgrey: disk utility won't mount them, terminal... "mount =r /dev/disk1s12" should that do it?02:24
Nomikos*-r02:24
shadeofgreyNomikos:  if you were running tiger id say you have a prayer of a chance...  but panther is very doubtful02:24
kyncanizparta: in /etc/modutils and /etc/module-init-tools i think02:24
frogzooNomikos: I'd try reinstalling grub from the looks of things - you might if you know what you're doing get grub to boot from the command line too - try 'find boot'02:24
zpartadjm62: i want to load a ide controller before the device-mapper02:24
LoppApanu|qos: try ftpwho or ftpstats, don't remember which one works02:25
grabakovAlright, I managed to find the drivers - one problem though, lynx doesn't come with Ubuntu for some reason so I don't think I'll be able to download these!! :(02:25
BooZeewhat is "talkback" ?02:25
shadeofgreynomikos:  do you have backups of important stuff?  if so, then yeah try it.  thats like your only shot02:25
funkyHatdjm62, I just sudo apt-get insall nvidia-glx :P02:25
mojograbakov: sry man i had to step out & give the puppy some lovin (she just woke up).  I too have ATI (Radeon 9800XT) in a desktop though.  I have probs witht the latest linux driver from ATI (fglrx), but I believe that the install should be giving you the open-source driver (ati), not the closed-source one.  Of course you can change this post install ;-)02:25
funkyHat(and then that other command that I forget right now...02:25
shadeofgreydjm62:  yeah but theres another step02:25
funkyHat)02:25
shadeofgreydjm62:  you have to type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:26
grabakovmojo, how might I do that?02:26
funkyHatthat's the one02:26
u|qosLoppApan: i am root, but these command were not found...02:26
mojograb 'sudo apt-get install lynx' methinks02:26
funkyHatthen ctrl+alt+backspace and you're there :)02:26
mojograbakov:  'sudo apt-get install lynx' methinks02:26
frogzoofor my money (no mac expert) I'd say Nomikos's data is all still there - just looks like grub's got itself confused02:26
funkyHat(after logging in again cos that just killed X)02:26
Nomikosshadeofgrey: if i had them, i'd be reinstalling now :-/ frogzoo: pointers on grub? i'm a bit of a amateur02:26
jenda_busyDoes anyone know how to use SVN?02:26
PlsHeloo, how to load Ubuntu on SATA hard drives? my installation stops in grub install proccess.. ?02:26
grabakovmojo, yes, alright, but you mentione that the drivers are there right?02:26
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sdakotacan't connect to irc.freenode.net02:27
grabakovmojo, or did I misunderstand?02:27
funkyHatsdakota, chat.freenode.net02:27
sdakota140.211.166.2:6667 can't connect02:27
Nomikossdakota: http://freenode.net/news.shtml02:27
funkyHatcheck out www.freenode.net for reasons02:27
shadeofgreysdakota:  they've been having shit trouble with hackers.  use chat.freenode.net for timebeing02:27
djm62jenda_busy: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/02:27
frogzooNomikos: if you have a disk that will boot grub - try 'find boot'02:27
mojograbakov: well, the short answer is 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' I believe.    BUT- there are error logs we can look at to find out WHY your X is not starting now, rather than jumping to conclusions ;-)02:27
shadeofgreysdakota:  see freenode.net on the web for explanation.02:27
frogzooNomikos: if it finds anything, then try to boot the kernel from there02:27
djm62that is the first time that I've used a "bookmark" from a browser...02:28
jenda_busydjm62: Thanks (in other words... rtfm :) )02:28
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shadeofgreywhats rtfm?02:28
djm62jenda_busy: in case you didn't know about the decent free book....not intended to be curt02:28
grabakovmojo, I'll apt-get irssi and try and get back here in a few moments (I am on a windows box right now), will you still be here when I return?02:28
sdakota_read the fucking manual02:28
shadeofgreyahhhh02:28
sdakota_shadeofgrey: read the fucking manual02:28
sdakota_mhh02:28
sdakotasdakota_: you're me!02:29
frogzoof != fantastic?02:29
jenda_busylol02:29
sdakota_sdakota: no, i'm you!02:29
funkyHatfrogzoo, lol02:29
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sdakotasdakota_: Ok, logging out, then you can be me! ^^02:29
grabakovehhh, I'll take my chances. Thank you for your help, bbias02:29
sdakota_sdakota, sure02:29
mojograbakov: you can try 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE | more' to see the EError messages, and replace EE with WW for the WWarnings.02:29
pmabbleh, ive just installed ubuntu from dvd, but i cant connect to anything online except this irc server and the ubuntu site/wiki, any ideas?02:29
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Chousukepmab: weird.02:30
sdakotaM0002:30
sdakotaEah ! Linux!!02:30
shadeofgreypmab:  that makes no sense.02:30
pmabi know :(02:30
Nomikosfrogzoo: none found :/ would it be on a Ubuntu install disk?02:30
frogzoopmab: ping www.yahoo.com02:30
djm62pmab: what do you get if you try to ping google? what about trying to ping your router?02:30
shadeofgreypmab:  if you can see the wiki then you should be able to go anywhere02:30
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pmabpinging google works..02:30
pmabjust not in firefox02:31
frogzoopmab: does ff return? or just spin?02:31
djm62pmab: have you got any other browsers to try with?02:31
pmabjust spin02:31
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pmaband ive got a winxp box beside it on the same router so its not the net02:31
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acid2hey, is it possible to get fonts this crisp? http://gnome-look.org/content/pre2/26757-2.png02:31
djm62pmab: telnet www.google.com 8002:31
acid2and if so - how?02:31
Nomikosor.. would a Ubuntu install/other disk help in other ways? then i'd be burning one shortly..02:32
pmabdjm62, that connects02:32
frogzoopmab: are you dhcp'ing the linux box? & correctlY? different ip to the xp box?02:32
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pmabyeah should be, i'll check ips again02:32
frogzooNomikos: I use RIP - but that's just me02:32
djm62pmab: well then, at least you web browing needs are taken care of ;)02:32
Nomikosfrogzoo: sounds comforting :-) what is it?02:33
djm62pmab: have you done any experimental firewalling stuff?02:33
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taomasterhow can i install apps in this new ubuntu (dapper)?02:33
pmabnope02:33
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frogzooNomikos: recover is possible - set of recovery utils - but it comes with grub so's u can boot02:33
pmabits default install, then ive patched up02:33
pmabdidnt work either side of it02:34
djm62pmab: sounds like a network issue, but I can't understand where...it's a default breezy install (plus non-net-related packages)?02:34
Nomikosfrogzoo: do you have time/energy to walk me though a few things? otherwise i guess i should try to read the docs on grub..?02:34
StormxWhy is it, that when a page tries to open a popup, firefox will say "Firefox has stopped a popup opening on this page ..." but the popup will open anyway?!02:35
djm62pmab: if you do a GET when you telnet www.google.com 80, do you get the homepage?02:35
pmabnah it disconnects me02:35
frogzooNomikos: well, if I'm here, I'm here - get your hands on grub & we'll see02:35
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frogzoopmab: did telnet 80 work?02:36
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pmabit connected, but typing anything dropped the connection02:37
VincentKDevDesigner always crash at startup02:37
Vincentanybody with the same problem ?02:37
frogzoopmab: google has a redirect as standard - so I think you're good there - try 'telnet www.yahoo.com 80' - & then 'GET /'02:37
Vincent(I run KDE)02:38
sdakotathe linux version of vmware... can I already play 3D games in it already (if I install Windows in it)?02:38
sdakotaI mean, in Workstation v502:38
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pmabhmm not working at all now, getting "Trying 1.0.0.0...02:38
pmab"02:38
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jenda_busydjm62: OK - I guess that doesn't really help me. I want to test a project, and I checked it out. now I suppose I need to compile it. How would I do that? (I'm guessing this might no longer have to do with svn)02:38
grabakovmojo, how weird...02:39
frogzoosdakota: haven't done it - but believe so - it will run like a dog however02:39
lucasvojenda_busy: read the readme02:39
grabakovmojo, now apt-get obviously needs su status, right? Well, Ubuntu setup didn't ask me to define the root password...02:39
lucasvojenda_busy: then, try ./configure && make && sudo make install02:39
jenda_busylucasvo: of svn?02:39
djm62jenda_busy: there are usually files like README and INSTALL, or HACKING02:39
lucasvojenda_busy: of you checkedout source02:39
frogzoopmab: ping all your DNS servers mentioned in /etc/resolv.conf02:39
djm62grabakov: this is because ubuntu doesn't have a root passwd02:40
jenda_busylucasvo: I did.02:40
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lucasvojenda_busy: what's written in it?02:40
jenda_busylucasvo: Where do I find it?02:40
sdakotafrogzoo: why?02:40
grabakovdjm62, that's impossible. How would su priviledged services like apt-get and crontab work?02:40
lucasvojenda_busy: in you checkedout sourcetree there shourld be file like README and INSTALL, or HACKING02:41
pmabboth fine, one is 1.23ms and one is 27ms02:41
frogzoopmab: and then telnet 80 yahoo02:41
djm62grabakov: using sudo...root exists, but there is no password to crack02:41
pmabdoes the search line need to be something useful?02:41
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grabakovdjm62, I -did- use sudo02:41
jenda_busylucasvo: but where do I find the checked out sourcetree?02:41
frogzoopmab: nope02:41
djm62ubotu: tell grabakov about rootsudo02:41
pmabnope, still looking at 1.0.0.002:41
jenda_busylucasvo: ah found it...02:42
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grabakov"Thus when Synaptic or something similar asks you for a password, it is asking for your user password, not the root password."02:42
grabakovI tried that - didn't work.02:42
djm62pmab: what is your network likes02:43
frogzoopmab: tracepath www.yahoo.com02:43
jenda_busylucasvo: Ah OK - now i have the python sources. What do I do now?02:43
djm62grabakov: are you absolutely certain that you're entering the user passwd (no changed configuration, i18n mixups, capitals, etc)?02:43
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pmabdjm62, 1 adsl modem then a router, its worked fine with everything else ive thrown at it though02:43
grabakovdjm62, correct.02:44
boldstrikegrabakov: it didn't work for me at first either...try again02:44
pmabfrogzoo, seems ok to hop 14 then no replies02:44
grabakovboldstrike: so, for no reason soever, it just "started working" ?02:44
djm62grabakov: are you the first or only user on the system?02:44
acid2hey, is it possible to get fonts this crisp? http://gnome-look.org/content/pre2/26757-2.png02:44
grabakovdjm62 *nods*02:44
acid2and if so - how?02:44
boldstrikegrabakov: that's right. the first couple of times it didn't work for some strange reason. then, it just worked. i have no idea why. this is the second install i've done and it did the same thing last time.02:45
lucasvojenda_busy: is there some file like install or readme?02:45
grabakovboldstrike, well, I guess i'll try again. thanks. bbias02:45
frogzoopmab: can you ping google?02:45
pmabyes: 64 bytes from www.google.com (66.249.93.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=234 time=47.7 ms02:46
frogzoopmab: &/or yahoo?02:46
djm62acid2: mine seem to look like that...02:46
jenda_busylucasvo: Nope...02:46
lucasvojenda_busy: try python setup02:46
jenda_busylucasvo: There are readme files, but they are in the .svn dirs02:46
pmablookup works in network tools too02:46
djm62acid2: you can choose your fonts, and how they are rendered, to look their best on your hardware02:46
frogzoopmab: can you ping www.yahoo.com ?02:47
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lucasvojenda_busy: no you need them in the root dir02:47
pmabyes: 64 bytes from www.yahoo.com (216.109.118.77): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=107 ms02:47
frogzoopmab: now tracepath www.yahoo.com02:47
jenda_busylucasvo: Obviously. Nevermind - I'll ask the project's devs once they wake up :)02:48
djm62pmab: but if you type in www.yahoo.com to firefox, you get nothing? what if you type http://216.109.118.77 ?02:48
jenda_busylucasvo: It's EasyUbuntu (https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu)02:48
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pmabdjm62, both bring up "yahoo!" as the title, but then dont display anything else (loading anim)02:49
frogzoopmab: try 'shift refresh"02:50
_jasonacid2, system -> prefs -> fonts, mine look like that too.  I have subpixel smooting on (If you have an LCD you should use that)02:50
djm62pmab: wget www.google.com (I'm not sure if wget is on the default install)02:50
acid2_jason, right, I've done that02:50
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acid2But its still a bit more blurry than that02:50
grabakovNo kidding - it works.02:51
acid2djm62, what font/smoothing style do you use?02:51
pmabwget google resolved to 1.0.0.1 :(, but wget yahoo.com worked, got index.html02:51
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grabakovokay *rubs hands together* time to get drivers.02:51
_jasondetails for subpixel smoothing: 96dpi, subpixel, full, RGB02:51
_jasonacid2, ^02:51
djm62pmab: can you rerun dhclient on your main interface?02:51
acid2same as me then - which font?02:51
acid2also, which font engine? freetype?02:52
_jasonacid2, Sans02:52
acid2righto02:52
_jasonacid2, monospace for terminal02:52
djm62acid2: subpixel smoothing, sans02:52
pmabdjm62, how?02:52
_jasonacid2, how would I check my font engine?02:52
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acid2you'd know if you've installed another _jason  :)02:52
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djm62pmab: from a terminal, sudo dhclient eth0 (or whatever your main interface is called)02:53
zpartadoes ubuntu requier me to have everything as modules or can i build a custom kernel with only the stuff needed for my machine builtin and no modules02:53
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_jasonacid2, I guess default then02:53
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acid2well thanks for the info both :)02:53
pmabah ok02:53
pmabdone02:53
djm62acid2: maybe try high contrast?02:53
pmabseems to have bound to the right ip02:53
_jasonacid2, my font size is 10, I notice that at different sizes it's not as crisp02:53
djm62pmab: restart firefox to start clean02:53
acid2_jason, ya02:54
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djm62acid2: could it be your subpixel order?02:54
acid2im using rgb too02:54
pmabdjm62, done, its got as far as the favicon now02:54
acid2i'll play with the others02:54
coldanyone knows what ubuntu runs on port 1026 and 102702:55
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djm62only thing is openoffice doesn't kern very nicely02:56
acid2sorry02:56
acid2xchat crahsed _02:56
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simonvalloreHello how do i apply icon themes ?02:56
Baderhi02:56
grabakov*whimper* this isn't working. How do I apt-get those linux drivers again please?02:56
frogzoograbakov: which drivers?02:57
grabakovfrogzoo: Linux driver for ATI02:57
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Luuraja_hya02:57
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frogzoograbakov: you can choose the 'ati' or 'fglrx'02:57
frogzoo!tell grabakov about ati02:58
grabakovfrogzoo: sorry, that went way over my head.02:58
odatanyone have any experience with lirc?02:58
Luuraja_does there be a special list for edubuntu?02:58
frogzoograbakov: read the msg from ubotu02:58
grabakovfrogzoo: right, I saw it.02:58
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simonvalloreHello how do i apply grub themes ect ect ?02:58
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Muldyyou mean the grub splash screen02:59
frogzoosimonvallore: easiest imo is install 'gnome-art' pkg02:59
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djm62acid2: what about the resolution of your monitor? dpi?02:59
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odatanyone have any experience with lirc?03:00
mojograbakov: hi again!  so you booting in and out to try stuff?  I see while I been AFK you come and go. What's your status?03:00
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lucasvohow can I re-autoconfigure Xorg?03:02
grabakovmojo: well, currently, I got apt-get to function03:02
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grabakovmojo: But I am still trying to get ahold of the linux drivers03:02
mojograbakov: thats good.  did you see my post about the Xorg log files?03:03
ddaalucasvo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:03
odatlucasvo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserfer-xorg03:03
grabakovmojo: No.03:03
djm62lucasvo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg03:03
odatxserver  lol03:03
odatsorry03:03
ddaaodat: :P03:03
djm62xserver-xorg03:03
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sgmhaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii03:03
ddaalucasvo: you've got all the information there, in bits :)03:03
djm62new X.org! new gnome!03:03
ZeepHow can I configure the NTP client? Where can I find the configuration file? Thanks03:03
mojograbakov: ok then.  'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE|more' will print the (EE)rror lines from the log, and substituting WW for EE will give you the (WW)arning lines.  that should give you some notion of X's sanity level03:04
odatanyone have any experience with lirc?03:04
soundrayZeep, /etc/default/ntpdate03:04
grabakovmojo: lets do that.03:04
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Zeepsoundray: Thanks03:04
ddaaZeep: generally, look at /etc/init.d/ntpdate to see exactly what's happening03:05
fbafelipehow do I change dhcp's lease time?03:05
Zeepddaa: Okay, thanks, too :-)03:06
fbafelipeIt's set to 5 mins, however my modem is using lease time of one month03:06
grabakovmojo: typed the command verbatim, here is the response: log: no such file or directory03:06
lucasvoddaa: thanks03:06
mojograb right on.  i will try to stay nearby.  it's saturday, smoked a morning doob w/ my bro, readin offa the linux home page aggregate, chillin to the dead from 10-29-1977, helpin folks... what a good morning03:06
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grabakovmojo: wait, silly me.03:06
mojograbakov: i didn't cut n paste, i coulda typoed03:07
grabakovmojo: I am typing this from console to console - semantic error.03:07
djm62fbafelipe: I think that's up to your router03:07
mojograbakov: np :D03:07
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sdakotahi03:07
sdakotaagain ^^03:07
cliebow__fbafelipe: cant you just vi /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf03:07
fbafelipedjm62: My router is using the lease time of one month, Ubuntu is using 5 minutes...03:08
fbafelipecliebow_: thanks, I will try it.03:08
cliebow__then restartr dhcp03:08
grabakovmojo: Okay... it mentions that WW, EE and NI are not implemented.03:08
Nomikosfrogzoo: people tell me grub isn't useful on OSX, and tell me to use Yaboot. attempting to boot into Ubuntu shows a Yaboot prompt thing as well. is this helpful?03:08
sdakotacould someone here help me with my NameVirtualHost problem?03:09
ddaagrub not working on macs03:09
mojograbakov: they are.  it just says that.  that should mean that you have NO EError lines.  Try with WW and see if you get any.  If you like, remove the "grep EE|" and see it all unfiltered, paginated with 'more'03:09
ddaagotta use yaboot for openfirmware love03:09
grabakovmojo: then it goes on to say: "(ee) Radeon(0): [dri]  driscreeninit failed. disabling dri03:09
oskudeyou can also boot linux with macs Open Firmware...03:09
sdakotacould someone here help me with my NameVirtualHost problem on Apache?03:09
Nomikosddaa: ok, there now :-) any pointers?03:09
grabakovmojo: Okay, with WW now...03:10
soundrayfbafelipe, you need to describe your setup in more detail to really get useful advice.03:10
grabakovmojo: There is a lot of text now.03:10
mojograbakov: okay, so you are getting some warnings.  i am not up on what the dri (direct rendering interface?) part gives or takes from the whole picture.03:10
grabakovmojo: what immediately strikes me is "failed to detect monitor"03:10
ddaaNomikos: what kind of pointer? The ubutu installer will install yaboot for you. It needs a special HFS partion (about one MB). Also, you should have your kernel on a ext2/3 fs because yaboot does not know the more exotic filesystems (e.g. xfs).03:11
soundrayfbafelipe, are you connecting through a router?03:11
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mojograbakov: you familiar with pastelink?03:11
grabakovmojo: Oh! And it mentions a number of directories that supposedly "don't exist"03:11
grabakovmojo: I am not.03:11
fbafelipesoundray: I am connecting from ADSL03:11
mojograbakov: hmm... okay.  brb with pastelink info (oh the suspense!)03:11
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soundrayfbafelipe, and how is your modem connected to the computer, USB or Ethernet?03:11
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oskudeis there an ubuntu version for nokia 770 ? :)03:12
grabakovmojo: hahaha. You've made my night ;)03:12
Deterministoskude, doubt it. but if you send me your nokia i'll be sure to try :P03:12
Nomikosddaa: i seem to have messed up the boot partition somehow, yaboot says "Unknown or corrupt filesystem". people said to use grub to get it to mount in another way, and when i couldn't use that, well, yaboot. i'd be happy to just get the data off somehow..03:12
fbafelipesondray: ethernet03:12
odatanyone have any experience with lirc?03:12
soundrayoskude, I don't think so. Better chance with Debian.03:13
oskudeDeterminist, :) (i havent boutgh it yet)03:13
soundrayfbafelipe, does your modem act as a DHCP server?03:13
ddaaNomikos: does that system ever boot since you intalled it? (just checking it's not something like the kernel on a fs yaboot does not know about)03:13
Deterministoskude, figured since i think it hasnt been released yet.03:13
LjLops: i'm being asked why 200.109.0.0 is banned03:13
mojograbakov: ha ha ha okay my bad it is called pastebin.  www.pastebin.org will let you paste your files.  after submitting, it takes you to a page with a URL that you cane paste in this chat and I can go examine your files myself03:14
fbafelipesoundray: yes, in the configuration page of the modem it's says that lease time is set to one month03:14
Nomikosddaa: been running happily for months - until i formatted some other partitions of the same disk under OS X03:14
oskudesoundray, of course. debian for 770 :) (as 770 dont need that "auto-config" magic of ubuntu )03:14
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grabakovmojo: mrreehokay. Let me do that quick.03:14
mojograbakov: if you are chatting from a different computer, then just use a floppy or something quick n easy to transfer them03:14
soundrayfbafelipe, I think you may be confusing two levels of DHCP assignments.03:15
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grabakovmojo: no, it's the same one - just a different console. And this site is incorrect. :D03:15
soundrayfbafelipe, your router gets an address from your ISP every few weeks, that's fine.03:15
grabakovmojo: "Find your Domain Names Today!"03:15
oskudei just read that 770 is debian based :)03:15
soundrayfbafelipe, now if your computer gets an address from your modem every 5 minutes, that should be fine, too.03:15
ddaaNomikos: mh... I suggest you try booting with the live cd, then mount your root, chroot to it, and fix what you have to. That will probably involve running ybin (the utility that configures yaboot and installs the MBR)03:15
ddaaNomikos: does that make sense?03:16
soundrayoskude, but I think it lacks the package management stuff.03:16
nubuntuHelp! "Qt installation not detected." Cannot figure out how to install Qt.03:16
oskudesoundray, :(03:16
hmpedersenIs there a dvd player for ubuntu that isnt named totem?03:16
mojograbakov: the two main files i'll want to see are /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:16
fbafelipesoundray: but there are three comuters connected on this modem...03:16
Nomikosddaa: i got as far as "mount your root" :-) but i have to download the livecd first, anyhow03:16
oskudesoundray, well, i wait atleast till voip is in it, then ill think of buying one :)03:16
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soundrayfbafelipe, maybe we should start the other way round. What is the problem you are trying to solve?03:16
mojograb sorry... it is .com not .org03:17
ddaaNomikos: when fixing up a system, "chroot" is a very useful command. "man chroot" to learn about it.03:17
fbafelipesoundray: and the configuration for each IP is different03:17
Nomikosddaa: thanks, will do03:17
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ddaaalso, read the yaboot documentation and learn about "ybin".03:17
nubuntuHow do I install Qt? Anyone?03:17
fbafelipesoundray: Ubuntu is changing the IP sometimes...03:17
grabakovmojo: pastebin.com ,the site google presents me with, informs me that it cannot be displayed.03:18
Muldynubuntu, search qt using synaptic first. and install the one that looks most like the qt library03:18
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mojograbakov: let me guess, you're using text-browser?03:18
ddaanubuntu: most likely, you are asking because you are trying to build some Qt app from source.03:18
nubuntuMuldy, did that. Then I installed all packages I could think of relating to Qt...03:18
fbafelipesoundray: so i get the port configuration of another IP03:19
grabakovmojo: I can't access X after all ;)03:19
ddaanubuntu: so you'll need the *-dev packages as well.03:19
soundrayfbafelipe, so you have Ubuntu on one of three machines. What's on the other two?03:19
nubuntuddaa, building from source right :)03:19
mojograbakov: you are right,though. it is actually http://pastebin.com  with no www03:19
helterhello, can anybody recommend a tool for designing webs? Something like dreamweaver but in linux and open-source03:19
fbafelipesoundray: the others have windows (one use win98 and the other winXP)03:19
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grabakovmojo: Yeah.03:19
oskudehelter, ive heard about "nvu", but never tested...03:19
ProN00bis there any tool that lists you internet streams ? (preferably video)03:19
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ddaahelter: there's nothing nearly as good a dreamweaver in the free software world.03:19
ddaahelter: you could try things like nvu and bluefish though.03:20
heltermmm...03:20
soundrayfbafelipe, and which one is the DHCP server? Or is it the router?03:20
mojograbakov: yep right on.  okay maybe a private channel between us so you don't flood the #ubuntu channel then?03:20
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fbafelipesoundray: the server is the router03:20
helteralright thanks guys. I'll give them a try.03:20
nubuntuhard to find out what package I need to install Qt. searching synaptic results in lot of possibilities03:20
mojograbakov: or is there a way to send files with irc?03:20
soundrayfbafelipe, okay, then you need to configure the DHCP server in the router for a longer lease time.03:20
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bigfoot1does gimp have an irc/chat room?03:21
oskudeProN00b, dont know any good lists, but i watch this often www.demoscene.tv03:21
grabakovmojo: I'm there.03:21
oskudenubuntu, try "apt-cache search qtlib" then you only need to know which version you need03:21
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grabakovmojo: I opened a query window with you.03:21
mojoi'm not though.. :(  sais waiting on you still ?!?03:21
funkyHat|awaywow... sound on gizmo is awful... although it could just be the echo test service03:21
fbafelipesoundray: but in the router configuration page, it's says the the lease time is 2592000 (30 days)03:22
nubuntuoskude, will do03:22
grabakovmojo: ?03:22
soundrayfbafelipe, you are looking a the period of the ISP lease.03:22
oskudebigfoot1, try "/join #gimp"03:22
feelmjawlkHi everyone! Beeing new to linux I can't get my new sound card (Soundblaster Audigy 4) to work under Ubuntu. I've been searching the forums and the web for hours and trying to solve the problem, but I've had no luck so far. Typing lspci in a terminal gives me this line:0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 000803:22
mojoi am here... perplexed.  it never saw your acknowledgement.  can you try initiating with me?03:22
soundrayfbafelipe, I think.03:22
ddaanubuntu: a safe bet would be "kde-devel" I think. Probably vastly overkill, but hey...03:23
bigfoot1oskude: thank you!03:23
soundrayfbafelipe, what make and model of router is it?03:23
grabakovmojo: I already have a window open.03:23
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fbafelipesoundray: I don't think the problem is in the router, when I was using slackware it used to work correcly03:23
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grabakovmojo: let me try again...03:23
nubuntuddaa, Willing to install ALL packages  to get it working :)03:23
mojograbakov: you wanna initiate this time?03:23
grabakovmojo: I have tried already - you can't seem to se me.03:24
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Muldydoes breezy default to dhcp client 2 or 3?03:24
ddaanubuntu: also, apt-file is your friend when looking for the package that contains that specific header or lib file your are missing.03:24
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nubuntuok03:24
deus_hello there03:24
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grabakovmojo: I'll pass the torch to you - I really don't know my way around irssi03:24
mcpatriotOJ03:24
fbafelipesoundray: the model is GS-R259S03:25
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bigfoot1can someone who's got any experience with gimp help me to some basic image editing (I want to clear the background, so that only the object in the center remains).03:25
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noggiehello guys03:25
soundrayfbafelipe, try configuring the lease time in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf03:25
deus_can anyone help me ? need to know how to change primary display adapter03:25
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grabakovmojo: or... I guess I could just host a channel?03:25
feelmjawlkWould anyone with experience in soundcard configuration like to help me out? I would appreciate it a bunch03:25
mojograbakov: ah well what the heyy..  try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and see if it's text-browser friendly03:25
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mojograbakov: yeah sure03:26
noggieon Ubuntu Breezy i can listen to local MP3 files just fine with XMMS, but when i add an url for a live stream, it does not add the source and nothing happens03:26
grabakov#mojograba03:26
noggieany ideas please?03:26
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ddaadeus_: looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and reading "man xorg.conf" should be a good way to start.03:26
Stormx2:O Ubuntu just locked up!03:26
ddaadeus_: xorg configuration is still very painful03:26
Stormx2!xorg03:26
ubotuI heard xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:26
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fbafelipesoundray: ok, I will try it, thank you03:26
gordonhello03:26
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Stormx2Hi03:27
oskudebigfoot1, try the "eraser" tool03:27
feelmjawlkHi03:27
bigfoot1oskude: that's the manual/long way.03:27
gordonjust very nuew with ubunt03:27
deus_ddaa damn, thx i hope i needn't to to it that way :/03:27
bigfoot1oskude: i believe there's a better way.... letting the computer do the work.03:27
oskudebigfoot1, there was a plugin... forgot the name... sec googling03:27
deus_bye03:28
soundraybigfoot1, is there anything that distinguishes your foreground from your background object? Color?03:28
gordonneed help with sound03:28
feelmjawlkGordon03:28
ddaadeus_: you can probably google for "xorg.conf" and your video adapter model to  find some voodoo. Of course, only if "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is of no help.03:28
Stormx2gordon: OK, Whats the problem?03:28
soundraybigfoot1, it's been a while since I did this, but I'll try and help...03:28
oskudebigfoot1, you mean this ? http://www.siox.org/03:28
feelmjawlkgordon: we have someyhing in common03:28
ddaablah...03:28
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feelmjawlkwhat is your problem?03:28
bigfoot1oskude: yeah that website seems to show what i'm looking for.03:29
oskudebigfoot1, but i never used it, so dunno how to install it (maybe its allread installed?)03:29
Stormx2!sound03:29
ubotusound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary03:29
Stormx2^^Use that as a first guide for debugging sound problems.^^03:29
gordonTotem could not play 'fd://0'.03:29
feelmjawlkmine is that I can't get any sound from my new soundcard: a soundblaster audigy 403:29
gordonthat is what i get03:29
feelmjawlkI have already been there03:29
gordonwhen i click on a audio link03:29
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fbafelipesoundray: ok, i edited the file, how do i restart dhcp?03:30
noggiei dont have sound problems03:30
soundraybigfoot1, there is also http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/, but it refers to an older GIMP version.03:30
noggiethe sound works fine. and local mp3 work fine also. its the live streaming03:30
feelmjawlkgordon: ubuntuguide.org03:30
soundrayfbafelipe, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:30
wimI'm using hoary, can i upgrade to breezy without burning the cd image? in other words, can i update via internet?03:30
feelmjawlkI had also fd://0 problem03:31
gordonok thx03:31
gordoni will look at that03:31
soundraywim, yes, just update your repositories (replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list)03:31
bigfoot1guys, i have gimp version 2.2 on my system. I would like to get version 2.3  because of an integrated tool (plugin). How do i go about upgrading my gimp?03:31
Stormx2!ubuntuguide03:31
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.03:31
wimsoundray, cheers03:31
oskudebigfoot1, gimp 2.3.x seems to have siox built in..03:31
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bigfoot1oskude: that's why i want to get 2.303:32
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bigfoot1so how do i go about upgrading from gimp 2.2 to 2.3 or better?03:32
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noggieStormx2, to whom is all these bot triggers directed?03:32
oskudebigfoot1, ill try the 2.2 plugin...03:32
pmabhey03:32
fbafelipesoundray: done, now it's wait to see if it will work, thank you for the help03:32
simonvallore!SEEN SIMONVALLORE03:33
ubotusimonvallore is currently on #ubuntu (36m 33s)03:33
simonvallore!SEEN ubotu03:33
ubotui haven't seen 'ubotu', simonvallore03:33
pmabdjm62, i got it working :)03:33
feelmjawlkIs anyone experienced with hardware troubleshooting, and would like to take a look on my case?03:33
oskudeanyone know wheres ubuntu gimp plugin directory ?03:33
soundrayfbafelipe, do a 'grep renewal /var/log/syslog'03:33
bigfoot1oskude: go to http://www.siox.org/plugin.html03:33
djm62pmab: sorry it was so hard :-/ still all's well that something something03:33
runevifeelmjawlk: sort off.  what kind of hardware?03:33
bigfoot1oskude: that page also says that the plugin for gimp 2.2 is not as good as it is in 2.3 or better03:34
noggieon Ubuntu Breezy i can listen to local MP3 files just fine with XMMS, but when i add an url for a live stream, it does not add the source and nothing happens. any ideas how to fix that, please?03:34
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feelmjawlkrunevi: soundcard, audigy 4 (audigy 2 chipset)03:34
gobboHi, i have a question. Im running the livecd of ubuntu and want to use fdisk, but it cant open hda. i used it before, but now i have a s-ata harddrive. do those have different names?03:34
runevifeelmjawlk: Only getting static?03:34
fbafelipesoundray: the result is many lines like "Dec 17 12:31:39 localhost dhclient: bound to 192.168.7.106 -- renewal in 300 seconds.03:34
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fbafelipe"03:34
pmabdjm62, was my adsl modem, turns out it doesnt like ipv603:34
oskudebigfoot1, well, i ill try the 2.2 plugin (cause its less hassle)03:34
noggiegobbo, use /dev/sda03:34
bigfoot1oskude: okay. please let me know how it goes.03:34
djm62pmab: ooh, nice and obscure03:34
soundrayfbafelipe, does the last one show anything different from 300 seconds?03:34
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odatanyone have any experience with Lirc?03:35
feelmjawlkrunevi: Static? elaborate... the problem is I've no sound since I put in my new sndcard, here is an interesting line from lspci: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 000803:35
soundrayodat, a little.03:35
fbafelipesoundray: no03:35
gobboit says unable to open too :(03:35
bigfoot1soundray: thank you for offering to help. i think it is not too hard, but I'm a real newbie. If I can learn how to do it on one photo, i can know how to do it on any other photo.03:35
runevifeelmjawlk: Well, can't really help you as I don't get my Sound Blaster Audigy SE to work neither. :-/03:35
bigfoot1soundray: you on IM?03:35
soundrayfbafelipe, in that case, it is your router determining the lease time.03:35
soundraybigfoot1, only Skype.03:36
feelmjawlkrunevi: :( shame, for both of us03:36
odatsoundray, when i try to run irrecord to setup my remote i get the following error   irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)03:36
bigfoot1soundray: can we text thru skype or would you like to do pm?03:36
feelmjawlkrunevi: But the Audigy SE isn't supported by alsa, right?03:36
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soundraybigfoot1, give me 5 min to sort out two other threads pls03:36
bigfoot1soundray: no problem.03:37
fbafelipesoundray: but in the dhclient.conf i set fixed ip to 192.168.7.106, the fixed ip will work and i will get always the same ip?03:37
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feelmjawlkrunevi: I think I read somewhere someone used oss? I might be mistaken though03:37
simonvallorenothing better than a saturday in #ubuntu03:37
simonvalloreO_O03:37
burepeI am using skype and if my mic and line in are off  I can call people. If one of them is on it says problem with sound device, The faq doesn't mention this problem,but maybe I am missing it. Any suggestions?03:37
soundrayodat, what kind of detector hardware have you got?03:37
runevifeelmjawlk: correct.  but .. i'm waiting for support :D03:37
bettong_BOFHdoes anyone know if compiling my kernal will fix the fact that ubuntu dosen't know my hardware right?03:37
soundrayfbafelipe, should, unless the router ignores the request, like it does with the lease time one.03:37
oskudebigfoot1, i did "chmod +x siox4gimp" and then "sudo cp siox4gimp /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/" and it seems to work "Filters/Misc/Foreground Extraction"03:37
simonvallorebettong_BOFH, try it03:38
odatsoundray, detector hardware?03:38
fbafelipesoundray: ok, thank you for the help03:38
bigfoot1oskude: you've tried it on one of your pics?03:38
feelmjawlkrunevi: I actually purchased this card only because sound quality of my older sb pci 128 was inferior in linux vs. windows and I want to use linux on fulltime03:38
soundrayodat, you need a sensor to pick up your remote control signals.03:38
oskudebigfoot1, no, i just tested that it loads... (im lazy atm to learn new thigs:)03:38
odatsoundray, the sensor is connected to the tv card03:38
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soundrayodat, have you followed the instructions on lirc.org?03:39
RockyBurti'm considering switching to dapper drake ... any things i should watch out for?03:39
oskudeis gimp2.3 maybe in the backports ?03:40
void^sadly, lirc has problems with recent kernel versions03:40
feelmjawlklogging off..03:40
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soundrayoskude, no.03:40
odatsoundray, i know i need to record the signals from my remote but i keep getting that error03:40
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oskudesoundray, roger03:40
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reagleBRKLNwhat linux util can unpack a sit/hqx?03:41
puma_83hello, can someone help me with pxe and ubuntu? i put the error and the config file on  www.liquidstar.ch/error.jpg und www.liquidstar.ch/error.txt ! thx for any help03:41
soundrayodat, have you edited your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf and is it loading the appropriate modules?03:41
oskudebigfoot1, ill try a local build of gimp2.3 :) (just for fun)03:42
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odatsoundray, checking now03:42
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bettong_BOFHsomeone told me that compiling my own kernal might not be a good idea if ubuntu dosen't know the vendors in the device tab of the device manager03:42
Kazuyahi :D03:42
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mgihey.. can anyone point me to some documentation on how to configure my xorg.conf to allow me to use my dell 24" lcd with my fx 5200?03:42
ubuntu_Fudge03:43
soundraybigfoot1, same skype u/n03:43
gobbowhen i type "fdisk -l" it doesnt show me anything :(03:43
void^puma_83: i use root=/dev/ram0 for my initrd/netboot kernel commandline03:43
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bigfoot1soundray: ok03:43
Kazuyasomeone can tell me the configuration file of vino-server?03:43
hlengobbo, might be something wrong with you /proc dir. try fdisk -l /dev/hd[abcd] 03:43
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puma_83void^: okey, i try......03:44
gobboah, it found hdc but theres only 670mb and mz harddrive(sata) is 200gb03:45
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oskudeKazuya, the most config files are in "/etc"03:45
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odatsoundray, i have my tv card working with the modular technology setting in bttv  i have no idea what remote that is and its not listed on lirc03:45
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soundrayodat, in that case, I can't help.03:47
shanonxanyone know of another good image editor instead of gimp?03:47
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soundrayodat, sorry, you may have to ask lirc developers for a compatible driver.03:48
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nubuntuAaargh! "Set $QTDIR correctly and rerun." How do I fix this? Thought /usr/share/qt3 was right, but...03:48
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shanonxis there no other image editor besides gimp?03:51
mgii love how nothing ever quite works in linux03:51
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djm62shanonx: what sort of images?03:52
Kazuyaoskude: i can't find nothing make me think of vino in /etc03:52
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shanonx.bmp03:52
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oskudeKazuya, hmm any help in man files ? like "man vino" (or what ever its called)03:52
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Kazuyano man for vino03:52
Kazuyano man for vino-server03:53
djm62shanonx: what kind of editing?03:53
shanonxdjm62: .bmp .gif type stuff..03:53
frogzooshanonx: interesting question - why do you need another image editor?03:53
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shanonxfrogzoo: cause gimp keeps giving me some Export error and wont edit the image.03:53
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oskudeKazuya, is this used by vino /etc/vnc.conf ?03:54
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Nomikosthanks all :-)03:55
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djm62is this a nonfree-gif thing?03:55
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shanonxfrogzoo: got it working.03:55
Kazuyatnx oskude, i try03:56
Kazuya:D03:56
oskudei wonder how long it will take to compile gimp...03:57
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kaminixoskude, it doesn't take that long really, at least it didn't for me... :)03:58
gib8hi03:58
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gib8i wanna do alsaconf03:58
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oskudekaminix, its compiling atm with 1.2ghz duron...03:58
gib8nad have installed alsa-utils03:58
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gib8but there is no alsaconf03:58
uber_spacedwhat is a good graphical file manager?03:58
kaminixoskude, ah... I did it on a 2,6ghz P4. :)03:58
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kaminixuber_spaced, gnome-commander is good.03:59
gib8knows someone where it is now in brezzy?03:59
Stormx2Why does firefox say it has blocked a popup but it pops up anyway?03:59
Subhumanu sure alsaconf is in alsa-utils?03:59
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SubhumanStormx2, u sure there wasnt 2 popups?03:59
frogzooStormx2: more than 1 popup?03:59
gib8Subhuman, no but apt says thatNote, selecting alsa-utils instead of alsaconf03:59
gib8alsa-utils is already the newest version.03:59
Stormx2I wouldn't have thought so03:59
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Stormx2But surely if there is more than 1 it would block them all04:00
Stormx2?04:00
djm62gib8: locate alsaconf ?04:00
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frogzooStormx2: yar, it's wierd that ff blocks popups, but you still get them sometimes- but definately fewer of them04:00
djm62Stormx2: people are paid to find ways past popup blockers...the good guys aren't always in the lead04:00
uber_spacedkaminix, thanks04:00
gib8djm62, locate alsaconf ?04:00
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gib8djm62, result is: /04:01
Subhumangib8, i cant see alsaconf, but i do have a alsaconf file.04:01
Stormx2djm62: Hmm, fair enough. its just that whenever a popup comes up, it says it has blocked it, so surely it knows it is there?04:01
Subhumanso i dunno.04:01
nickrudalsaconf isn't in breezy, according to packages.ubuntu.com04:01
djm62Stormx2: you will be much happier if you believe the guys in the lead are good by definition ;)04:01
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gib8Subhuman, i wanna make a new, becouse my soundcard is not found as card but is loaded as oss04:01
Stormx2Oh, and this isn't really a problem, but how could I get FF to open links in tabs all the time.04:01
djm62Stormx2: tabbrowser extensions04:01
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Stormx2djm62: Thanks04:02
frogzoodjm62: how old r u to be so cynical?04:02
Subhumanhmm, well im not sure, ive never had a card not work.04:02
Subhumani havea  creative audigy.04:02
gib8Subhuman, i will post my codes a moment please04:02
Subhumanuse pastebin04:02
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djm62frogzoo: 23, but I've never been this old before ;)04:02
Subhuman!tell gib8 about pastebin04:02
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lovelihi04:03
gib8http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/94704:03
Stormx2How far are the dev team from getting firefox 1.5 in dapper?04:03
Subhumangib8, this file is for AC97, which is an inbuilt soundcard04:03
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Subhumanas in, the one in your motherboard, is that what you have or are trying to use?04:04
gib8Subhuman, yes but why doesnt find my gonme an card:04:04
gib8 /usr/bin/aplay -l04:04
gib8aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...04:04
gib8and:04:04
gib8 cat /proc/asound/cards04:04
gib8--- no soundcards ---04:04
Subhumanhmm, im not sure, my AC97 works without a problem, odd.04:05
gib8Subhuman, yes i wanna try my onboard soundcard04:05
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gib8Subhuman, the problem is i nstalled the original nvidia drivers04:05
Subhumanthe ones from apt?04:05
gib8Subhuman, my card has no hardwaremixing04:05
gib8Subhuman, no the NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run04:06
gib8 from the nividia-homepage04:06
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gib8now i wanna config it with alsa or use it again with the old modul (which seems no longer to work)04:06
Subhumanahh right, because i got the nvidia drivers from apt, and my sound still works fine.04:06
gib8Subhuman, maybee i try, apt-get install what?04:06
Subhumanumm04:07
gib8do u have nforce2?04:07
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gib8or newer?04:07
Subhumanno04:07
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Subhumanolder :P04:07
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GameCathi - can anyone help me set up zend server on (k)ubuntu?04:08
Subhumangib8, i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx04:08
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Subhumanthen u do04:08
Subhuman sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:08
gib8 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver04:08
Subhumanfor the ubuntu supported driver04:08
Subhumans04:08
gib8isnt it only for the grafic?04:08
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theD3viLhow to connect to someone with ssh ?04:09
gib8Subhuman, i try04:09
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gib8it couldnt bee more worse ;)04:09
Toma-theD3viL: 'man ssh'04:10
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djm62theD3viL: is they have an sshd running, just type ssh ip.or.hostname04:10
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kieee5+3=?04:10
gib8i do restart my xserver04:10
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Toma-804:10
oskudetheD3viL, ssh username@ip.ip.ip.ip04:10
MitsukichanHow Can I enter a freaking @character in ubuntu linux?04:11
kieeeok04:11
kieeemy irc is work04:11
Subhumanno, well it says some features wont be activated untill u restart04:11
kieeethx a lot04:11
Toma-Mitsukichan: \@04:11
cliebow__@04:11
djm62Mitsukichan: depends on your keyboard04:11
theD3viLtnx everyone !04:11
Kazuyaoskude: i didn't nedd to change the configuration04:11
SubhumanMitsukichan, ure keyboard must ne the wrong keymap04:11
oskudeMitsukichan, depends on your keyboard layout, i got it at altgr+q04:11
MitsukichanIs there no keymap?04:11
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Subhumantry ", that works for me when it messes my keys up04:11
MitsukichanWhere I can see which combinations of meta-keys produce which results?04:11
Kazuyai forgot that i've got two screens on that pc04:11
SubhumanMitsukichan, u using ghe live cd?04:12
Kazuyaand i didn't give vnc th screen id04:12
MitsukichanSubhuman: No, freshly installed04:12
Kazuya:/04:12
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gib8hi04:12
djm62Mitsukichan: yeah, I have shift-' but US default is shift-2 I guess04:12
Kazuyanow works04:12
oskudeKazuya, :)04:12
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SubhumanMitsukichan, because, if u do "lang=uk (ur country code) itll set it corret."04:12
Kazuyathanks x your time and exuse me04:12
Kazuya:D04:12
MitsukichanNo Keymap application?04:12
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SubhumanMitsukichan, you had to choose your keymap during install04:12
bz0bhey all04:12
Subhumanand there are, jus google it.04:12
MitsukichanAnd everyathing else works fine (german keymap), but I cant find the freaking @ character04:13
djm62Mitsukichan: System->Preferences->Keyboard04:13
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picaboohi i try this: chmod 744 /etc/init.d/dial cd /etc/rc2.d ln -s ../init.d/dial S95dial04:13
picaboobut it doesnt work04:13
gib8Subhuman, it was only for the grafcdevice04:13
oskudeMitsukichan, on german its "Alt Gr" + "q"04:13
djm62Mitsukichan: I don't know if there are any "typical german keyboard problems", but having a look at that might help04:13
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Mitsukichanoskude: Alt Gr? I see... I have not mapped that key04:14
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oskudeMitsukichan, its the key right next to space04:14
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EasterSunshinecan someone suugest a program to batch convert images to full quality jpegs?04:16
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GameCatEasterSunshine: imagemagick04:17
djm62EasterSunshine: convert ?04:17
MitsukichanIt _has_ to be scrwed up somehow ;) I am running Ubuntu on Virtual PC on my Mac04:17
andrwe_hey somebody mention to this andrew_ fucker that there's a reason nicks are registered. i'm getting damn sick of having to boot him every time i join the server04:17
EasterSunshineGameCat: thx, let me try it04:17
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GameCatEasterSunshine: djm62 is also on the money - the convert prog is part of imagemagick04:18
djm62EasterSunshine: the 'convert' command might well be your boy04:18
eighHeb net Ubuntu geinstalleerd op mijn oude PC en alles lijkt te werken. Moet nog wel wennen aan dit nieuwe besturingssysteem.04:18
oskude!nl04:18
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.04:18
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MitsukichanI am, however pretty pleased so far with ubuntu :)04:18
Seveaseigh, dit kanaal is engels, nederlands -> #ubuntu-nl04:19
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SeveasMitsukichan, it's good to hear that, we aim to please :)04:21
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RedRosehas anyone here gotten apache2 working for ubuntu?04:21
SeveasRedRose, sudo apt-get install apache204:21
Seveasdone04:21
Seveasit even starts automagically after installing04:21
RedRoseSeveas:Did that and it doesn't work...04:22
SeveasRedRose, describe "doesn't work"04:22
RedRosewould having apache1.3 interfere with that?04:22
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oskudeRedRose, try "apt-get remove apache" (to get rid of apache1.3)04:22
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apricotasd04:22
tron__alguien me lee?04:22
Seveas!tell tron__ about es04:22
oskudeRedRose, and install as "standalone" not "inetd" ;)04:22
apricot?04:22
funkyHat|awayYes04:22
RedRosedoesn't work means that i doenload it and when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 nothing works04:22
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Seveasdownload it ?04:23
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apricothow to install .deb files, please?04:23
Vales04:23
_jason!deb04:23
ubotusomebody said deb was To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb04:23
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Seveas!no deb is <reply> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb04:23
ubotuokay, Seveas04:23
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ValeScusate http://www.codif.altervista.org for children     http://www.codif.altervista.org for children04:23
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org for children    http://www.codif.altervista.org for children04:24
Valehttp://www.codif.altervista.org for children    http://www.codif.altervista.org for children04:24
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Seveas.csop04:24
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squwhats unbuntu?04:24
Seveas!tell squ about ubuntu04:24
HappufMaybe those links must be restricted somehow...04:24
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bz0bubuntu is a distrobution of linux04:24
bz0bmnid my spoelling04:24
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oskudeunbuntu are all others than ubuntu ;)04:25
bz0bi am a  little intoxiicated04:25
Gargoyleany recommendations for a good SVN gui?04:25
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Seveasgnome-terminal04:25
Seveas:)04:25
Gargoylehe he04:25
squwhy unbuntu is so popular?04:25
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HappufIts easy and fast and good :)04:26
bz0bi really dont!04:26
oskudesqu, its ubuntu (not unbuntu)04:26
GargoyleIt only took me 6 hours to get 686 kernel and hardware accelerated gfx! :)04:26
Happuf:DDD04:26
funkyHat|awaysqu, ease of use, good public image04:26
bz0bYAY04:26
squoh, sorry04:26
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bz0byay04:26
SeveasGargoyle, that long?04:26
funkyHat|awaygenerally being great04:26
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Gargoyle<-- Noob!04:27
Gargoyle:)04:27
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bz0boh04:27
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apricothow to go terminal in etc\...\apt04:27
Gargoylegetting fglrx working was the major pain. I think it's cos I has libstdc6++ not 504:27
Seveassqu, ubuntu is popular because it is both friendly for beginners and powerful, both stable and recent. Combinations not achieved by others :)04:27
bz0bif i am running a amd 64 2800+ on the i386 kernel, should i change to the 68604:27
oskudeapricot, you mean "cd /etc/apt" ?04:28
SeveasGargoyle, that's weird, fglrx is a breeze to install04:28
apricotzes04:28
apricotyes04:28
apricotcd etc04:28
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bz0bioll be back04:29
Gargoylewhat's the difference between "removal" and "complete removal" in the package manager?04:29
squscreenshots at official site is all about 800x600 .. ?!04:29
apricotcan I open the terminal in directory opened by nautilus?04:29
apricoteasyer for me04:30
oskudeGargoyle, AFAIK, complete removal takes also config files (like apt-get --purge) (but dunno really)04:30
funkyHatGargoyle, complete removal will purge config files from the system as well as removing the package files04:30
apricot'cause my terminal always open in home dir04:30
Gargoyleahh04:30
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apricotanybody?04:31
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b4ck3rapricot: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal04:31
_jasonapricot, install the following package: nautilus-open-terminal04:31
arnoldI got a little question. Sometimes i get a message upon booting:  root filesystem not checked for 30 times, check forced. And then the filesystem is scanned. Is it something i should worry about??04:31
erUSULarnold, no04:32
Seveasarnold, no, that's completely normal04:32
apricottnx04:32
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Seveasevery 30 boots it wants to do a complete check. You can change/ disable that if you want04:32
_jasonapricot, that gives you an option when you right-click, to open a terminal where you are04:32
arnoldOkay thanks. But why? I dont think that the 5.4 version did it04:32
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SeveasUbuntu does that since the beginning04:33
Kyralarnold: It did04:33
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Kyralarnold: Its a standard thing on all Linux distros04:33
lilg_hi can i boot to usb dvd writer to install the latest ubuntu and how do i do that?04:33
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Seveaslilg_, look at the documentation for your bios04:33
arnoldOKay my mistake. But thanks!04:33
Kyrallilg_: If your BIOS supports booting from it then ti should be fine04:33
lilg_not sure of my bios make, it says winstorn corparation and it doesent allow me to boot to usb ni04:34
lilg_i havea half installed 5.1004:34
lilg_i can get to log in and get bash can i do anything?04:34
funkyHatlilg_, to get from there to a normal installation, simply run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:36
apricoti didn't get the right click option, should i restart?04:36
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funkyHatapricot, killall nautilus04:36
gib8is it possible to install ubuntu over an ubuntu without losing personal datas from the home?04:37
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apricotok, thank you very much.04:37
apricot!04:37
funkyHatgib8, what is wrong with your current ubuntu?04:37
ubotuapricot: Bugger all, i dunno04:37
Kyralgib8: If you have /home on a separate partition04:37
gib8funkyHat, i lost my soundsupport04:37
gib8Kyral, i have home on the LVM04:38
Kyralgib8: If it detects it, mount it as /home04:38
Kyralotherwise....04:38
Kyralis it a seperate Volume Group?04:38
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gib8i have /boot/ /root/ as ext3 and the rest is one LVM group04:39
flanagan_I'm having some problems installing java04:39
flanagan_did the sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 thing and didn't work04:39
flanagan_any idea?04:39
rudi__any suggestions how I can change my bit depth?04:39
Kyralgib8: I don't know much about LVM, but I think you are screwed unless you somehow move /home to its own VG04:40
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hacsus.undernet.org04:40
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oskuderudi__, "DefaultDepth    16" under "screen" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:40
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rudi__oskude: thanks :)04:41
psycosehi04:41
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oskuderudi__, your welcome :)04:41
Hoxzerwhere is config file of the wine?04:41
psycoseover the past weeks, my xine crash randomly how could i make sure i'm not being infected .... any tips ? thanks04:41
apricotis there any gui way to install .deb files?04:41
apricotLOL04:42
Dr_Willis:) click on the special "terminal" GUI. :P04:43
apricoti want to install k3b that i downloaded04:43
psycosedpkg -i package.deb on a graphic console shell ;-)04:43
apricotand i must install other libs also04:43
Dr_Willisapricot,  you really dont want to just download a package like that and isntall it. theres other dependencies most likely04:43
Dr_Willisfor k3b - it needs all the kde libs  - i imagine.04:43
Deterministapricot, k3b is on the repositories, why would you want to download it seperately?04:44
apricotyes, that's the problem04:44
apricot'cause i did it already04:44
Dr_Willis:) NOW we get to the actual 'problem' :P04:44
oskudeif its an ubuntu deb, then there should be no problems04:44
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psycosesynaptic can help you if you select the good repositories04:44
Deterministoskude, dpkg wont satisfy depdencies using -i, me thinks04:44
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bettong_BOFHanyone here know why my onboard ac97 6.1 surround sound plays only one sound at a time and how to fix?04:45
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oskudeDeterminist, woot ?04:45
funkyHatDeterminist, no, it won't, but it will leave the package there broken, and apt or synaptic will fix it04:45
DeterministfunkyHat, yeah, that sounds right04:45
bettong_BOFHcan someone help me with my sound04:46
Deterministoskude, what funkyHat just said04:46
oskudeDeterminist, well i hardly use dpkg -i (and when i do, i know the depencies=04:46
apricotBUT!04:46
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Deterministapricot, yes?04:46
apricotwhat when i install again ubuntu04:46
zokahi people04:46
apricot&04:46
funkyHatapricot, why are you not just installing k3b from the repositories?04:46
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zokaI have downloaded liveCD04:46
zokacan I boot my comp with umu04:46
apricoti want to install downloaded repositories???04:46
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funkyHatapricot, i.e. sudo apt-get install k3b04:47
Eighthhaving trouble mounting an SD card in a USB reader under Breezy... /dev/sda1 never shows up04:47
deemoHello everyone, i have a question: for some reason when i try to ./configure any source code, they always return "C compiler cannot create executables". is there something extra I need to install? I already have g++ and gcc04:47
zokais it possible to boot ubuntu from liveCD?04:47
Deterministapricot, repositories are like big software warehouses on the net, you access them to download packages. K3B is on a repository that's suppoted by ubuntu04:47
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oskudedeemo, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:47
funkyHatzoka, yes04:47
oskudedeemo, and try again04:48
zokafunkyHat: how please help04:48
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apricoti ment the packages04:48
funkyHatzoka, do you have an ubuntu liveCD there now?04:48
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bettong_BOFHi need help with  a foxconn 748K7AA and it's onboard ac97 6.1 surround sound card as it only puts out 1 sound at a time and appears to be locked can someone help me?04:48
Deterministzoka, download the latest liveCD, burn it, voila?04:48
zokaYes04:48
zokaI have downoaded iso04:48
apricoti do not want to download again04:48
oskudezoka, did you burn it as "image" ?04:48
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zokaand I burned it but now it starts and I can try gail etc04:49
deemooskude, thank you it worked!04:49
zokabut not boot from it04:49
apricotif i have my packages on the pc, wright???04:49
zokaI have burned image and now it is real CD04:49
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oskudedeemo, nice!04:49
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funkyHatapricot, you will find that using apt and downloading again will be MUCH easier04:49
Deterministbettong_BOFH, sound is an issue that's hard to deal with mate, i suggest you read up some about alsa, look at the wiki or the forums to check if someone has bumped into the same problem.04:49
zokaI can exacurtte start04:50
zokafrom CD04:50
apricotyes, i agree04:50
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bettong_BOFHDeterminist, ok will do just new with troubleshooting sound so i am unshure of where to start04:50
apricottnx04:50
apricotbye04:50
funkyHatapricot, using .deb files you downloaded yourself will be a pain in the ass as you have to sort out dependencies etc. also if the version you downloaded isn't from ubuntu, you may get other problems with it not adding up04:50
funkyHatbye...04:50
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Deterministbettong_BOFH, 1. wiki.ubuntu.com 2. ubuntuforums.org 3. google is your friend. 4. read up about esd and alsa.04:51
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oskudezoka, dont quite get your problem... can your computer boot from cd ? (does other bootable cds work?)04:51
bettong_BOFHkk04:51
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gib8knows someone what this mean, and what slave is?04:53
gib8 ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave04:53
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vince_hi04:54
gib8vince_, hi04:55
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vince_hi gib804:55
beelzebub1987Anyone here been able to play on Private RO servers using ubuntu?04:55
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luisitohello, guys I have a problem04:55
beelzebub1987don't we all..04:56
vince_how can i make a wifi bandwith test?04:56
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void^beelzebub1987: i've had little luck with RO clients and wine/cedega, but i've heard reports indicating it's possible.. somehow04:56
beelzebub1987well04:56
beelzebub1987I've gotten it to work04:56
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beelzebub1987I just can't get it working with a private server04:56
beelzebub1987you need to use the linuxexe.exe04:56
beelzebub1987to be able to connect to servers04:56
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funkyHatvince_, set up an FTP server and a BIG file, and plug it in to a wired port, and grab the file on your wireless device :P04:57
luisitoI did "sudo chmod a+rw -R" in /, by error, and now I have a lot of problems. Is there a way to reset all the permissions back to original?04:57
melonipoikahi, is anyone using ntfs-fuse?04:57
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Ed-Geininstall quake4 demo as user or root?04:58
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void^beelzebub1987: heh.. when i tried i was having basic direct3d issues.. it couldn't lock a surface and would keep switching surfaces resulting in a garbled display. connecting seemed to work, but with the display problem i didn't try really attempt playing..04:58
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vince_funkyHat, i want a tool like airmagnet for linux04:58
void^-try04:58
beelzebub1987Have you tried cedega 5?04:58
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void^yesh..04:58
beelzebub1987I tried it on regular wine 9.3 and it ran relaly slow04:58
beelzebub1987but it seems to work nicely with cedega 5.0.104:58
coolio_zaI need a mindmapping tool like freemind any alternatives out there04:59
void^i read there was a problem with ati's drivers, though.. so that might be why04:59
beelzebub1987well04:59
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beelzebub1987I'm using the newest ati driver04:59
beelzebub1987and it works fine04:59
beelzebub1987the graphical part04:59
void^hm, me too..04:59
beelzebub19878.20.8?04:59
jroesanyone know if firefox+java runtime+java plugin will work on amd64?04:59
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aeon17x!openoffice.org04:59
ubotuaeon17x: I haven't a clue04:59
aeon17x!openoffice04:59
ubotuaeon17x: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!04:59
aeon17x>:(04:59
beelzebub1987I think there's a 64 bit verison of the java plugin04:59
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coolio_zamindmapping in OOo05:00
rosenDoes anyone know how to enable overburning in Gnomebaker ?05:00
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Ed-Geinproblems installing q4 demo when I run" sudo ./quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run" I get a command not found error any ideas05:02
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funkyHatandrew_, stop it! :/05:02
willis_Ed-Gein,  be sure ya chmod +x, it first. and give the full path for sudo05:02
knubbeEd-Gein:  have you chmod:ed the file?05:02
dooglusluisito: I don't know of one05:02
willis_sudo /path/to/whatever.run05:03
rosenfunkyHat, auto-reconnect ftl05:03
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Ed-Geinknubbe: no I didn't05:03
funkyHatyeah :(05:03
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luisitodooglus, if I reinstall over it, I'll lose my info?05:03
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kakeihey guys pls help me, i cant startx the error is : Api missmatch  the nvidia kernel is version 1.0.7676, but this X module is version  1.0.8174. please be sure that your kernel05:03
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dooglusluisito: what kind of problems do you have?  I wouldn't expect a+rw to cause any immediate problems really05:03
knubbeEd-Gein: :-)05:04
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Deterministkakei, change xorg driver to nv instead of nvidia, you prolly tried to install the nvidia driver and it went wrong on you05:04
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rosendooglus ! I'm superuser now !05:04
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dooglusrosen: you're logged in as root you mean?  or you have run "sudo -i"?  or what?05:05
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rosendooglus, nah I just mean that I'm not as confused as before :D05:06
Ed-Geinthanks that did the trick05:06
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dooglusrosen: aah.  "superuser" is another word for "root" in UNIX-speak05:06
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rosendooglus, oh ... well then I'm just elite ! ... or something05:07
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dooglusrosen: good for you.  got that "cd" command down pat now?05:07
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kakeiDeterminist it's 'nvidia' but i get..actually :  Cautgh signal 11.server aborting05:07
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dooglusdoes anyone know how to change the prompt in a terminal?05:08
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_jasondooglus, .bashrc05:08
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funkyHatman bash05:08
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funkyHat:P05:08
Deterministkakei, reinstall the driver, make sure you got all the settings right according to a manual like the one on ubuntuforums.org, that's about it05:08
rosendidnt you just teach me that the other day ? ;)05:08
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dooglus_jason: bash: .bashrc: command not found05:08
_jasondooglus, edit that file :P05:08
dooglus_jason: ok05:09
_jasondooglus, ~/.bashrc05:09
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oxezanyone could link me to a solution when nvidia kernel module cannot be loaded? Im in text mode and its kinda hard to search forums and google that way :/05:09
rosenalias PS1='Yes Master> '05:09
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doogluslol05:09
_jasondooglus, search for 'prompt' and you'll see where the info is.  You'll probably need to see the man or google to see what you can add in there05:09
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rosen:D05:09
dooglusthanks _jason05:10
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elastic0geuke teefjes05:10
elastic0geile*05:10
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kakeiDeterminist : error unable to exec gcc.real doesnt exist the file or directory05:10
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Deterministkakei, you sure you got all the proper packages installed to be compiling the driver?05:12
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Eighth/dev/sda does not show up when i plug in a usb drive. i'm running breezy. any ideas?05:13
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mojoanyone familiar with irssi know how to paste a file into the chat?  (private channel, not gonna flood here!)05:13
kakeiDeterminist : how do i check if i have all the proper packpages05:14
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Deterministkakei, i'm going to suggest you follow a howto. this isnt something you can solve easily from a chat session05:14
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kakeiDeterminist i dont have X is hard i'm using irssi05:15
Deterministkakei, get lynx05:15
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kakeiDeterminist i have lynx but how can i use it?!05:16
LjLkakei: no, gets links2 :-)05:16
rosenany suggestion wich app I should use to be able to overburn ? .. Gnomebaker dont support that05:16
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LjLkakei: start it, press "g", and browse05:16
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Deterministyes, what LjL said05:16
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LjLand get links205:16
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luisitodooglus, for example: sudo doesn't work because /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 044005:16
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soundrayEighth, check out your /var/log/syslog for any errors relating to the plugging event.05:17
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luisitodooglus, then you have problems with installig, moving, copying, etc..05:17
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LjLkakei: the easiest way to paste things from the console, then, is to install gpm, so that you can use the mouse to paste05:17
dooglusluisito: ok.  if you send me a list of all your files, I can send you back a script to "chmod" them to the same as they are on my box.05:17
mrsunshineno mplayer in the packages? :/05:17
LjLkakei: as for pasting an entire file into irssi, i wouldn't know05:17
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dooglusluisito: that won't fix everything - you've probably got some stuff installed that I don't.  but it would be a very good start05:18
LjLoh sorry, that was actually mojo05:18
_jasonubotu, tell mrsunshine about mplayer05:18
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aTypicalmrsunshine, I'm really new to ubuntu, but I found the wiki and it tells how to install it.05:18
Eighthsoundray: usb 1-1: device not accepting address 22, error -7105:19
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Eighthsoundray: that error repeats with different address numbers05:19
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rosenmrsunshine, it's in the universe repos isnt it ?05:20
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kakeii cant go to the wiki of ubuntu rrggg05:20
mrsunshinerosen: first time using this "os" so i dont know?05:20
_jasonmrsunshine, ubotu sent you some info in a private message, check it out05:20
luisitodooglus, that could be a great help man, I don't want to reinstall05:20
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aTypicalmrsunshine, read the wiki.  It really helps.05:20
soundrayEighth, I've got a device that does that. It usually works after unplugging & plugging it a few times.05:21
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rosenubotu, tell mrsunshine about repos05:21
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mrsunshinerosen: hehe, already found the page about it :>05:21
Pygi!repository05:21
ubotuPygi: I give up, what is it?05:21
soundrayEighth, I run tail -f /var/log/messages so I can see what happens as I plug the device.05:21
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Pygihehe ;)05:22
LjLkakei: install links2, if you can start it graphically (use "links2 -g"), i'm sure you'll be able to browse the wiki05:22
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McScruffuboto, tell rosen about unprotected sex05:22
McScruff:P05:22
rosenmrsunshine, hehe it's not that complicated.. I only started using linux a little less than a week.. But adding universe and multiverse repositories is quite important to really get things going05:22
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Pygirosen, do you know how to add repositories?05:22
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luisitodooglus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/585105:23
rosenubotu, tell McScruff that I allready have a girlfriend and I'm not interrested05:23
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McScrufflol05:23
Eighthsoundray: i'm not getting the addressing error now, but /dev/sda still doesn't show up05:23
rosenPygi, yah05:23
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Ed-Geindoes anyone run winxp as a guest os under ubuntu?05:23
rosenubotu No, rosen, I won't. (target invalid?) ..... he's probably right05:23
uboturosen: Not a clue05:23
soundrayEighth, does your USB drive work elsewhere?05:24
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Eighthsoundray: yep05:24
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mrsunshinebut its like 5 reps that says universe and NONE matches the ones in the "tutorial" on how to enable them :P05:24
Subhumanhi, this isnt really specific ubuntu, but its only happened to me in ubuntu, I'm using mplayer-plugin to watch videos in firefox, they work fine, BUT i cant seem to go fullscreen, it just keeps it 1:1 and adds a big black border, same thing in mplayer standalone, any ideas??05:24
french29manhello i look someone to check and try my gnome meeting please05:24
slartsEd-Gein: "Guest OS"? You mean under VMWare or something similar?05:24
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Ed-Geinslarts:exactly05:24
mrsunshine"breezy backports"05:24
deemoanyone here know where i can get the mod_dav_svn.so file for subversion?05:24
mrsunshinewhats that? :>05:24
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slartsYes then05:24
aTypicalSubhuman, I get that same thing playing supertux.05:24
_jasonSubhuman, make sure you are using 'xv' as the video output05:25
french29manhello i look someone to check and try my gnome meeting please05:25
slartsactually no, not under Ubuntu, but under FC05:25
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Linuturkwell, gnome runs like a dream on my machine from the live cd, so I can't imagine with an actual install05:25
Subhumanxv? i saw that, but i wasnt sure which one, ill try it out05:25
aTypicalSubhuman, I haven't figured out why it does that.05:25
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rosenmrsunshine, something about being compatible with older apps I believe05:25
soundrayEighth, does it get another devicename? I get anything from /dev/sda to /dev/sdg on mine.05:25
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Linuturki'm going to install after shrinking my partitions for windows05:25
Checksihi05:25
Linuturkwish me luck05:25
Checksianyone of the ubuntu crew around?05:25
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mrsunshinerosen: would be nice if atleast one entry in the list matched the ones in the tutorial :/05:25
Eighthsoundray: there's no /dev/sd*05:25
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Linuturki do have a question05:25
TimmmmHey, I need to install libstdc++-3.3.4 because some library was compiled with it and the ABI has since changed (damn those gcc monkeys). How do I do this?05:26
soundrayEighth, oh, interesting.05:26
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ChecksiAnyone of the ubuntu crew around?05:26
rosenmrsunshine, you use Synaptic to do it ?05:26
LinuturkMultiverse is stated as being "Non Free" << does this mean we have to pay for it?05:26
_jasonChecksi, what do you need?05:26
Eighthi agree05:26
_jasonLinuturk, no, non free as in the sense of free speech05:26
Ed-GeinLinuturk : no05:26
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merlywhere can I find the ifcfg-wlan0 (or similar) file? so that my settings are use automatically each time i boot?05:26
french29manhello i look someone to check and try my gnome meeting please05:26
soundrayEighth, have you checked your lsmod output?05:26
aTypicalLinuturk, no, it means that some things there may be illegal to use in some countries. :-)05:27
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deemoanyone here know where i can get the mod_dav_svn.so file for subversion?05:27
Linuturko, i got it05:27
sdakotaalways funny when french people try to speak english ^^05:27
Checksi_jason check pm05:27
french29manyes thank i try05:27
Linuturkwell, i'll have to make sure i own the program before I actually install it ;)05:27
french29manu like my accent05:27
Checksior how can i know who are the members of the ubuntu crew?05:27
_jasonChecksi, I didn't get one05:27
Linuturkl8r05:27
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sdakotafrench29man: your gnome meeting?05:27
Checksi_jason are ya part of the crew?05:27
_jasonChecksi, no05:27
Checksiok05:27
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sdakotafrench29man: yea, the accent for a great part05:28
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mrsunshinerosen: atm trying in adept05:28
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Subhuman_jason, thanks man, that fixed it in the standalone, still no joy with mplayer-plugin, but this is much better :D05:28
_jasonChecksi, if you need to speak with the developers you can try #ubuntu-devel05:28
TimmmmOk, how can I find the available versions of the libstdc++5-3.3-dev package?05:29
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antisocial_borishi, can anyone help me find out how im actually connecting to the net? im having problems on my home network, i can get on on my hoary laptop but not on an xp pc05:29
Eighthsoundray: i think i have everything i need... sd_mod, scsi_mod, usb_storage, uhci_hcd, usbcore05:29
rosenmrsunshine, ah ok I'm not familiar with that05:29
_jasonSubhuman, there are settings for the plug-in too, /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf iirc05:29
antisocial_borisi wanna see whats different between the two thats getting me on but not the pc05:29
rosenmrsunshine, like mostly everything else in linux ;)05:29
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Eighthwhen i plug in my camera, gthumb is able to retreive images, so i know usb is working05:29
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soundrayEighth, are you plugging into a hub or into the mainboard/laptop directly?05:30
oskudeTimmmm, dont quite get you ?05:30
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Kyralantisocial_boris: I'd try using traceroute to find the path and to see where its stopping on XP05:30
Eighthsoundray: it's actually a multicard reader, but it's acted exactly like a usb drive on every other system i've used05:30
french29mansdakota , your gnome meeting adress please05:31
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antisocial_borishow do i use traceroute on xp?05:31
sdakotafrench29man: my gnome .. meeting address? :/05:31
Eighthand it's plugged directly into the lappy05:31
soundrayantisocial_boris, wrong place to ask.05:31
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oskudeTimmmm, apt-cache show libstdc++5-3.3-dev ?05:31
antisocial_borisok05:31
slartsantisocial_boris: How do you physically connect?05:31
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sdakotafrench29man, could you tell me what a gnome meeting address is :/05:31
Kyralantisocial_boris: you go to the command prompt and I THINK the command is tracert05:31
kakeihey anyone help me pls : Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/moduleslibfb.a:fbmmx.o05:32
Timmmmoskude: Thanks05:32
french29mangnome meeting is a soft for audio and web cam05:32
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french29manfor linux05:32
juanwalkerHow i can update my repository from stable to testing or unstable? For example im interested in OOO 2.0 RC3 and kde3.505:32
antisocial_boriswere all plugged into the router05:32
soundrayEighth, have you tried varying the sequence (plugging / card insertion)?05:32
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slartswhat kind of "router"?05:32
slartsDSL modem or proper router?05:32
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rosenany audio prgrams other than skype that support both linux and windows ?05:32
Toma-rosen: kopete05:33
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kakeican any one pls help me, i cant start x this is the error  : Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/moduleslibfb.a:fbmmx.o05:33
oskuderosen, openwengo (linux and windows, osx not yet)05:33
Eighthsoundray: i've tried plugging the reader in w/ and w/o the card. i've also tried booting w/ and w/o the reader plugged in05:33
rosenthanks I'll look into it05:33
merlycan anyone tell me how to change touchpad sensitivity in ubuntu?05:33
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juanwalkerHow i can update my db to testing packages?05:33
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Toma-juanwalker: you sure you want to do that?05:34
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thomasredet hier auch jemand in deutsch?05:34
soundrayEighth, I see.05:34
juanwalkerIm interested in  kde3.505:34
oskudethomas, nein :)05:34
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oskude!de05:34
ubotuI guess de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de05:34
juanwalkerand OpenOffice 2.0 RC305:34
soundraythomas, ja, aber eigentlich gibt es dafuer #ubuntu-de05:34
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thomashh, lustige antwort :)05:34
Seveasjuanwalker, openoffice final and kde 3.5 repos -> see http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:34
thomasdanke, wusste ich nicht05:35
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soundrayEighth, you've explored all the obvious things...05:35
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juanwalkerthanx Seveas05:35
Eighththat's why i'm here ;)05:35
kakeihey guys i can't startx help me with this : Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/moduleslibfb.a:fbmmx.o05:36
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sdakotafrench29man, I don't have it05:36
sdakotasorry05:36
juanwalkerand how i can reset all my respository, it a shit05:36
juanwalkerfor the new sources05:36
juanwalkerrestat my cache05:36
juanwalkerrestart05:36
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Seveasjuanwalker, create a new sources.list with that page, and do apt-get update05:36
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juanwalkerok05:37
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timellohey guys!05:37
soundrayEighth, what kernel are you using?05:38
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=== mode/#ubuntu [+b andrew_!*@*] by Seveas
EighthLinux daedalus 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux05:38
Eighth (breezy)05:38
oskudeatlast :)05:38
timellois there php4 for breezy?05:38
Deterministtimello, apt-get install php405:39
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timelloapt-cache search not show me this package05:39
Seveastimello, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php405:39
Deterministtimello, make sure you have all the repos set up properly05:39
Deterministohh, right, yes05:39
Seveas!info libapache2-mod-php405:39
ubotulibapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3092 kB05:39
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juanwalkerBreezy is the last one dist?05:39
timelloDeterminist, it is the default05:39
oskudetimello, php4 seems to be in universe05:39
Seveasit's in universe, enable that05:39
timellook05:39
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timellolet me see os2mac05:40
Seveasjuanwalker, the last stable05:40
timellooskude,05:40
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Deterministtimello, like sev said, it's in the universe section05:40
juanwalkerAnd horay?05:40
timellook... I'll uncomment05:40
Toma-hey Seveas, anyplans to get firefox 1.5 in your backports repo?05:40
Seveashoary is the older stable05:40
soundrayEighth, have you tried your hardware on any other Linux machines?05:40
SeveasToma-, not in a million years :)05:40
juanwalkermmmah ok05:40
Toma-doh! :D05:40
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Deterministwhy not? :P05:40
SeveasToma-, it would break half the gnome desktop05:40
oskudetimello, and not forget "sudo apt-get update"05:40
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Eighthsoundray: works fine on my slack 10.2 machine05:40
Toma-Seveas: i agree.05:40
Seveasand I already broke a few X servers with my ati packages :)05:41
Toma-i tried it, and it wanged out05:41
soundrayEighth, also, did you load any modules with modprobe?05:41
timellooskude, already did :)05:41
oskudetimello, ok :)05:41
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Deterministk, smoke time05:41
Seveashf05:41
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greenpenguin13im getting an error in my Xorg.0.log, says:05:41
mojoSeveas: like mine! LOL  I run on the previous package or I loose dualhead05:41
greenpenguin13(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0)05:41
Eighthsoundray: sd_mod, scsi_mod, usb_storage05:41
izi_hi, i have a sony laptop with a on/off wifi switch (in front) if i boot when it's on, the system freeze at gdm start, i think there's a race condition or something... any idea ?05:41
Toma-also, nice little repo you have there ;)05:41
greenpenguin13anyone help please?05:41
timellothanks guys05:41
Seveasmojo, if you want to use mine, make sure you install the kernel module and the fglrx-control thing too05:42
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greenpenguin13im out of ideas :/05:42
Toma-i use your gksu all the time05:42
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Seveashehe05:42
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Seveasfading is cool :)05:42
Toma-tis :)05:42
mrsunshinequestion: how do i know if a package is for amd64? ... are all packages i can download for that or is it a huge mix of it? :/05:42
mojoSeveas: oh, just playin.  Yours are not the same ones in breezy then05:42
soundrayEighth, I see, so none of these are loaded by the hotplug subsystem?05:42
mojoSeveas: you have separate repositories or debs on a site then?05:42
Eighththey weren't05:42
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Seveasmojo, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl is a site and repo :)05:43
timellosya!05:43
mojoSeveas: thx05:43
mrsunshinetrying to install cpudyn and then i get "to be removed> kubuntu-desktop"? :>05:43
mojoSeveas: then it was NOT you whos fglrx update broke my dualhead.  :)05:43
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Seveashaha05:44
soundrayEighth, did you say your camera was working on the USB?05:44
Seveasyou could try mine, it's the latest from ati05:44
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Eighthsoundray: right.. gthumb detects and acquires images, but i can't figure out where it's mounting the camera05:44
SeveasEighth, /media/something probably05:44
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soundrayEighth, should be in /media/usb*05:45
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soundraySeveas, have you any idea why Eighth's card reader wouldn't accept its USB address?05:45
kakei_Hey guys how can i delete all the stuff of nvidia to reinstall it , finnally i started X (gnome, i want KDE Back)05:46
Seveassoundray, I missed the beginning of the conversation, so no05:46
Toma-kakei: did you use a deb/apt or the nvidia installer?05:46
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soundrayhotplug in Ubuntu seems to be a bit temperamental, on the whole.05:47
Seveashaha05:47
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Seveassoundray, hotplug has gone to /dev/null in dapper05:48
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soundraySeveas, interesting. Eighth, wanna try Dapper? :)05:48
Eighthmaybe later05:48
soundrayEighth, talk about chasing the devil with the beelzebub05:48
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jbroomebah, who needs stability. :)05:49
Toma-how much space does dapper need to install?05:49
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McScruffis there a thing like /etc/debian_version that says what ubuntu version?05:49
Toma-ie, a basic install05:49
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tha_gamemasteranyone bored enought to help me with the ppc side of ubuntu, that channel is pretty empty :)05:49
apricothello, is there any program for writing on NTFS partitions?05:49
soundraySeveas, what replaces hotplug?05:49
thoreauputicMcScruff: /etc/issue, or type lsb_release05:49
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pypcjshello,very body05:50
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Kuyaedzapricot: you should be able to read/write to your NTFS (windows partition) using your standard installation05:50
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Kuyaedzapricot: it just needs to be mounted correctly I believe..05:50
apricoti cannot write05:50
thegladiatorhi05:50
Ed-GeinWhy am I afraid to upgrade to breezy?05:50
DUNFreakKuyaedz, that's not really true05:50
thoreauputicMcScruff: sorry lsb_release -a05:50
tha_gamemasterntfs is not stable writing05:50
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thegladiatordoes nyone use  a dvx player here ?05:50
KuyaedzDUNFreak: is only FAT writeable as of yet?05:50
apricoti can read05:51
greenpenguin13im using nvidia-glx, and i suddenly get low resolution after an upgrade :(05:51
soundraySeveas, what takes the role of hotplug in dapper?05:51
Toma-kurros: yep05:51
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tha_gamemasteronly stable ntfs write is same file size overwrite, no new file creations, no file deletions,05:51
DUNFreakKuyaedz, FAT is stable writeable, NTFS is read-only for now... or some $$$ solutions for writing05:51
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FalstiusKuyaedz: there are ways to write to ntfs, but they involve having a copy of the windows DLLs (and so can't be supported out of the box)05:51
thegladiatoris *.divx a real format ?05:51
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thegladiatoror is *.avi the real format for divx ?05:51
Eighthso, any other ideas?05:51
greenpenguin13and "(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0)" in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:51
thegladiatorany one knows ?05:52
Toma-thegladiator: nope... .avi is05:52
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Kuyaedzis there any real advantage to using NTFS over FAT?  I've always formatted in FAT(32) when using windows.05:52
matwI'm learning bash, and    echo "test"   doesn't produce any text. The script starts with #!/bin/bash. Echo "test" from the command line works.05:52
oskudethegladiator, yes, i think "divx" is also a "standardized" container format like avi...05:52
thoreauputicthegladiator: avi is a "container"05:52
tha_gamemasterthegladiator: avi is just a container, divx is a codec. meaning divx can live inside avi, or .divx. or dot .barf really05:52
staakacan someone suggest the best wireless card for ubuntu?05:52
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thegladiatorso the commercial divx players needs a *.avi file to red ?05:52
soundrayEighth, could you paste your dmesg output in pastebin?05:52
thegladiatorread*05:52
Toma-thegladiator: tho .divx could still be read as a .avi on linux. the .whatever part doesnt matter05:52
soundray!pastebin05:52
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:52
DUNFreakNow talking about NTFS and tables... I'm having some trouble resizing an NTFS partition, for some reason no program will do i (qtparted or gparted). PQMagic also fails with error 108. I'm trying to use testdisk to fix this but I'm not exactly a pro at understanding cylinders and sectors... can anyone help me (maybe in private?)05:52
Kuyaedzstaaka: check out the ubuntu wiki for supported cards05:52
wimwhat's apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:52
staakathanks Kuyaedz05:53
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thegladiatorToma-  yes , howabout commercial players ? i downloaded this *.divx file05:53
wimwill it upgrade my system from hoary to breezy?05:53
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thegladiatorit works in ubuntu not my divx player05:53
thoreauputicmatw: is your script executable ? ( chmod +x)05:53
tha_gamemasterthegladiator: i'd consult the documentation of your hardware divx player05:53
Toma-whats a divx player?05:53
matwyes it is05:53
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oskudethegladiator, just rename it to *avi and try...05:53
nickrud!tell wim about breezyupgrade05:53
oskude*.avi05:53
thegladiatora dvd player come divx player for my tv05:53
Toma-yeh do what oskude suggests05:53
apricotsorry, i was out, so is there a possibility to write on ntfs?05:53
Toma-thats pretty cool :)05:53
thegladiatoryes i am trying that out05:53
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DUNFreakapricot, not really.05:54
thegladiatoryeap05:54
apricotok05:54
wimlol i need some kind of security module for mozilla to view that page05:54
Falstiusmatw: the abs howto is a good place to start.  although the later parts are kind of jumbled.05:54
apricot2. question05:54
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oskudethegladiator, you also have to look what version of divx the movie is, and what your hardware divxplayer can05:54
DUNFreakapricot, better use partition magic to convert to FAT , or if you dont care about the data on it, trash the partition and create a new FAT one.05:54
apricotcan i use the windows key05:54
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Seveassoundray, udev05:54
thegladiatoryep thanks05:54
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matwFalstius I'm reading an abs howto now. Almost copied the text verbatim05:55
Toma-apricot: yep05:55
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KuyaedzDUNFreak: any advantage to NTFS over FAT (I know there doesn't seem to be in linux, but in windows?)05:55
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apricotcan you tell me how05:55
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Eighthsoundray: http://pastebin.com/46796705:55
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mojoanyone familiar with burning dvds for play?  I have some files in various formats (like AVI) that I want to convert and burn so i can watch on a dvd player... stuff like history of federal reserve, crap like that, but need some direction for dvdburn in linux05:55
DUNFreakKuyaedz, security. You can set permissions with NTFS, not with FAT.05:55
Falstiusmatw: it could be a problem with how you run the script.  Did you chmod +x and run it with ./script or did your source it?05:55
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Toma-apricot: as long as you dont expect to hit the windows key and windows xp pops up...05:55
tha_gamemasterntfs has advantage of filesize limitations, permissions, and "stability"05:55
Toma-:P~05:55
oskudeKuyaedz, NTFS has user rights, FAT doesnt05:55
DUNFreakNTFS is basically microsoft'S way of copying the linux filesystem :P05:55
Kuyaedzlol05:55
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sstchurCan anyone explain the basic to me of getting desktop icons on Gnome (like a trash icon, or a my computer icon)?  I can't seem to get it -- though I was able to add trash to the Panel05:56
greenpenguin13wtf? my applications menu isnt working05:56
Falstiusntfs makes a disk look bigger too (atleast with the default options)05:56
Lukas___Hellooooo05:56
oskudeand FAT doesnt have difference between "filename" and "FILENAME", right ?05:56
jenda_busyoskude: right05:56
greenpenguin13Helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo05:56
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apricothow to engage the win key???05:56
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jenda_busygreenpenguin13: whatch it05:56
DUNFreakoskude, windows in general ignores case in filenames05:56
tha_gamemastermojo: that's a lengthy and timely process without the ease of a "wizard" or "simple point and click" interface.  k3b can help if you have all the proper libraries installed05:56
matwFalsius neither, I created the file, #!/bin/bash as first line,  echo "test"  as second line, chomod +x it, and then ran it at the command prompt05:56
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Toma-apricot: what do you want it to do?05:56
deeTerhello, i have patches an configured my new kernel for ubuntu. what is the right command to install it now? is it "make &&makemodules install"?05:56
oskudeDUNFreak, not on NTFS, or ?05:56
tha_gamemastermojo: but having ALL those libraries installed may or may not be legal in your area05:57
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mojotha_gamemaster: i recently installed k3b but have not tried a dvd with it yet.  any good pages online to help me get started?05:57
Lukas___somebody can explain my the use of Metacity please!! /msg me05:57
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DUNFreakoskude, I'm not totally sure but I think it doesn'T matter. It'll write a filename as all caps no problem, but won't care whethere you call it in the proper case05:57
tha_gamemastermojo: i'll look right now05:57
Falstiusmatw: that is what I meant but ./script05:57
greenpenguin13the menu just dissapears when i click on it :/05:57
soundrayEighth, do these events correspond to plugging, or is this happening over and over by itself?05:57
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Toma-apricot: ???05:57
matwFalstius - Sorry05:57
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mojotha_gamemaster: oh yeah, i have decss and win32codecs but maybe thats not what you mean05:58
Falstiusmatw: its fine ... what did you call the script?05:58
sstchurIs opera in the apt-get list?  I tried sudo apt-get install opera but to no avail05:58
oxezI installed apache2, php (working on apache), and everything I could find related top mysql/php (php5-mysql), however phpmyadmin keeps telling me PHP doesn't have mysql extension, whats wrong?05:58
greenpenguin13other menus are fine05:58
Eighthsoundray: just when i plug it in... that paste is since i plugged the reader in the last time05:58
Kuyaedzsstchur: it isn't.  you need to get it from opera05:58
DUNFreakToma-, what apricot means is that the WIN key is rather useless by default on ubuntu. Is there any way to map it somehow? A key menu editor?05:58
oskudemetacity = window decoration, gtk = buttons and menues ?05:58
mojotha_gamemaster: i can play dvds of course fine but the auth, well..  ;)05:58
sstchurKuyaedz, Oh ok05:58
matwFalstius - Youre great! The script was named test. A shell command. ./test worked!05:58
Kuyaedzsstchur: one sec, I'll give you the source for your sources.list to get it05:58
DUNFreakI'd rather like to know the answer to that myself. LOL05:58
soundrayEighth, okay, so each of the slots is a device of its own.05:58
Toma-DUNFreak: Yes. but theres alot of things you can map it to.05:58
sstchurKuyaedz, thanks05:58
Falstiusmatw: that's what I was thinking :)05:59
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Toma-for instance, to take a screenshot.05:59
soundrayEighth, in that case I suspect it's the memory card causing the trouble.05:59
_alexhey guys, im having problems with my wlan. I have installed the drivers for ndiswrapper correctly, but non of the tools I used can see my access point.. any ideas?05:59
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Eighthsoundray: i've tried 3 cards :)05:59
soundrayEighth, or is that the same one that you used in the camera?05:59
DUNFreakToma-, any way to make it act a bit like in windows, e.g. WIN+R for run, WIN+E for nautilus?05:59
Toma-DUNFreak: System > Preferences > Keyboard SHortcuts05:59
Kuyaedz_alex: have you checked out the wireless wikis at ubuntu wiki?  those are more detailed & should get you working05:59
soundrayEighth, that's more a :( than a :) though...05:59
Toma-go crazy in there. click the setting you wanna set and just punch in the shortcut you want06:00
rosenisnt there any cd-burners out there that supports overburning ? ... need to buy me those extra 3Mb somehow ;)06:00
DUNFreakToma-, guess I shoulda looked in there first. LOL06:00
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Toma-DUNFreak: its a good place to start :D06:00
Eighthsoundray: true06:00
soundrayrosen, I think I've overburnt with k3b.06:00
sstchurHow can I get a trash icon on my Gnome desktop, or isn't it possible?06:00
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Kuyaedzsstchur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/585306:00
oskuderosen, there are allso cds upto 800mb...06:00
rosensoundray, isnt that hard to get to run on a gnome box ?06:00
soundrayEighth, I think we're out of options, unless you can test it with a different card reader.06:00
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_alexKuyaedz: yeah I have, cant see why the access point isnt showing up, since I know it broadcasts its essid, because windows auto detects it no probs06:01
soundrayrosen, not here it wasn't...06:01
rosenoskude, yeah but I get 700Mb for free ;)06:01
tha_gamemastermojo: yes it's possible, i just can't find some good documentation online06:01
kbrosnanI need a guide for reinstalling grub on the mbr, I have a floppy with all the instructions I need.06:01
rosensoundray, I'll try it out thanks06:01
oskuderosen, ok :)06:01
DUNFreakToma-, doesnt seem to take to simultaneous keys06:01
Kuyaedz_alex: sounds like you might not be using the right driver.  It can be VERY specific or it wont work06:01
soundrayrosen, it has lots of kde related dependencies, but once those are in, it works.06:01
DUNFreakor rather not with the WIN key06:01
sstchurKuyaedz, thanks06:01
Kuyaedzsstchur: I'm assuming you know how to edit your sources.list?06:02
Toma-DUNFreak: works here06:02
mojotha_gamemaster: well i can google around too thanks for trying.  any, like, off the top of your head stuff i should make sure i have library-wise?06:02
sstchurKuyaedz, actually i've very very new to Ubuntu and linux in general06:02
_alexKuyaedz: wouldnt that give me an error when I tried to load the ndiswrapper?06:02
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DUNFreakI assume it can do it properly with CTRL or ALT... doesnt seem to with WIN06:02
rosensoundray, I found it on synaptic ... going the easy route ;)06:02
sstchurKuyaedz, I ran a Gentoo system for a while, but I was anything but an expert even then06:02
soundrayrosen, of course!06:02
Kuyaedzsstchur: check out my wiki on that.  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SourcesList06:02
Toma-DUNFreak: it might say <Alt> but it still works06:02
soundrayEighth, do you think you can get another reader for testing?06:02
Toma-DUNFreak: oh hang on. it doesnt work :D06:03
Toma-DUNFreak: im too drunk for this :(06:03
Eighthnot really06:03
DUNFreak0x73 is what it shows :P06:03
sstchurKuyaedz, ok06:03
tha_gamemastermojo: mjpegtools, divx/xvid/ffmpeg, Mplayer and all it's libraries (like win32codecs), and make sure k3b recognises your dvd burner as a "dvd burner"06:03
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Kuyaedzsstchur: let me know if you still need help after reading thru that06:03
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DUNFreakToma-, under the influence is when I type the fastest, and the most interesting things, normally06:03
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Toma-hehe06:04
mojotha_gamemaster: cool beans. yeah, i think i need to remove mplayer and reinstall from source first then if thats needed.  i guess the transcodes use its libs?06:04
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mojotha_gamemaster: you have been a help, you give me places to start looking.  thanks!06:04
KarnaK81Hey! could someone tell me how i can find drivers for my soundblaster audigy 4?? im new on Linux06:04
tha_gamemastermojo: i think Mplayer requires transcode, not the other way around.06:05
soundrayEighth, the three memory cards you tested -- were they all of the same type?06:05
mojooh06:05
tha_gamemastermojo: hey no problem, I know how to do it perse, if you stick around I can help you more in a bit06:05
DUNFreakI think the hardest would be to actually have it act exactly like the real win key (e.g. if you just hit it and let go it shows the start menu, but if you hit a combination it runs what you want...)06:05
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Eighthsoundray: all are SD06:05
sstchurKuyaedz, does editing that file do that same thing that the GUI interface for Update Manager does when I click on Preferences?06:05
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mojoKarnaK81: Audigy 2 works with emu10k1 driver, maybe yours will.  A2 is actually emu10k2 chip i think but it still works06:06
soundrayEighth, so that still leaves a faulty SD slot in the differential diagnosis06:06
Kuyaedzsstchur: I believe so.  I generally use the terminal, but you can add repositories (which is what you need) via the graphical, yes06:06
mojotha_gamemaster: well it is my project today so i will be checkin back if i get stuck.  thanks!06:06
Eighthsoundray: true, although i haven't had a problem using it w/ other computers06:06
soundrayEighth, it would be worth testing one of the other slots06:06
Toma-DUNFreak: i dont think enough thought has gone ointo the "Evil Empire" key as the devels are probably against it as it is. kde might be more willing to shed some light on it06:06
tha_gamemastermojo: take it easy and good luck!06:06
soundrayEighth, right, I remember now...06:06
soundrayEighth, I'm not much of a help here.06:07
mojo:D06:07
Kuyaedzsstchur: click Preferences, Add, & Custom then add the line I sent you06:07
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Eighthsoundray: i appreciate you trying, tho06:07
sstchurKuyaedz, ah, ok06:07
Kuyaedzsstchur: then you should be able to search for opera & install it06:07
Eighthsoundray: and i agree, the other slots should be tested, but i don't have any other card type06:07
DUNFreakhmn... Toma- , take a look at this: http://www.interstice.com/journals/Simon/ims/20030911/.xstartup06:08
soundrayEighth, try posing your original question again -- like I say, others have reported this problem here, and maybe someone has found a workaround.06:08
DUNFreakWonder if that will work under gnome...06:08
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Eighthsoundray: thank you06:09
Eighthhaving trouble mounting an SD card in a USB reader under Breezy... /dev/sda1 never shows up06:09
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ivanHi all! I want compiling kernel for my Transmeta. #make config doesn't work. Wy?06:10
Toma-DUNFreak: i do believe Super_L is already the name for it, and hence ben used already.... i dont know. like i said. too gorne :D06:10
lukasIn Ubuntu, if I do a source installation of a package and install it to /usr/local, how can I get binaries to look in /usr/local/lib for libraries?06:10
soundrayEighth, Seveas says udev is replacing hotplug in dapper. udev is part of breezy already. Maybe it's worth reading udev documentation and configuring it to handle your USB events instead of hotplug.06:10
Toma-lukas: add /usr/local/lib to your ld.so.conf06:11
DUNFreakToma-, just tried this and it works (the 2nd and 3rd line of the WIN Key part of the file)06:11
Eighthsoundray, Seveas: i'll give that a shot06:11
lilg_Wooo wooo06:11
sstchurKuyaedz, so how do I search for it once I've added that line?06:11
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Toma-DUNFreak: Rad.06:11
soundrayEighth, just another idea, but I'll keep out of it from now on.06:11
DUNFreakxmodmap -e "keycode 115 = Super_L"       and then    xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L"06:11
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DUNFreakfreaky :D06:12
lukasToma-, I don't have an /etc/ld.so.conf file on my system06:12
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Toma-DUNFreak: make a wiki!06:12
Kuyaedzsstchur: open Synaptic Package Manager & search.  That should find it06:12
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Toma-lukas: weird.... i do...06:12
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lukasi have an ld.so.cache06:12
DUNFreakToma-, yeah I think I'll do that. will try to figure out howto myself ;)06:12
lukasan ld.so.hwcappkgs06:12
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sstchurKuyaedz, which line was I supposed to add?06:13
DUNFreakJust a Q. though, will the .xstartup file work by default in ubuntu?06:13
sstchurKuyaedz, I'm starting to get lost06:13
Kuyaedzsstchur: the deb http://... line06:13
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oxezhow would I remove a broken package in synaptic?06:13
Brutus5000hiho06:13
sstchurKuyaedz, that's what I did... but I must have done something wrong06:13
pedrohello06:13
Kuyaedzsstchur: one sec..06:14
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pedroanybody install dapper drake fligth 2 on x64?  having trouble with first boot :(06:14
Brutus5000I'm using the Live CD of Ubuntu 5.10 and i can't use a monitor-frequency higher than 60hz. How to change this?06:14
tdnI have a problem with my wireless LAN. Yesterday I got help in here on setting up wpa_supplicant. It worked fine... Until today... Now it says: ``ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting.'' Appearently it does connect to the AP, but I do not get any IP adress from the DHCP server.06:15
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jdmpikehello everyone... I am working like heck to make a /home/shared folder on my machine - one that when you drop new files or folders in the shared directory, it automatically mods the perms to 2775 and changes the group to users - can anyone help me with this?06:18
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ilba7rtdn i have the same prob here do not know how to get over it though06:18
tdnilba7r, Ok. I heard that it could be solved by using software encryption in stead of hardware encryption... But I do not know how to set this up.06:19
tdnilba7r, can you use your wlan even though you get the error?06:20
ilba7rtdn i dectivated wpa06:20
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ilba7rbut i have frequent loss of connection06:21
dooglusjdmpike: why set the g+s bit?06:21
Myrttigreat realname06:21
tdnilba7r, ok.06:21
oxezanyone know the package that provides 'db_get' command ? seems that phpmyadmin needs that to be uninstalled06:21
aTypicaljdmpike, I don't know of any way you can do it automatically when the file is placed in the directory, but you could setup a cron job that checks the directory every so often and changes permissions..06:21
ilba7rand always get in dmesg firmware error06:21
jdmpikedooglus: I thought by setting the g+s bit, it would force the groups perms of the parent folder on the directories in it06:22
RytmisHmm.. I keep getting an error loading libGLcore.so when starting X, and looks like that's why I don't have hardware acceleration.06:22
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kbrosnanI need a guide for reinstalling grub on the mbr. I have a boot floppy with a backup of the mbr. Are there any directions for copying that back to the mbr?06:22
jdmpikeaTypical, can you help me with cron - I am unsure how to write a script that will chmod, chgrp  correctly06:23
Nytryxhey i have a really weird question06:23
Rytmisfglrx loads happily, both the x driver and the kernel module, so I suppose that's all right, but umm..06:23
pedrojust googling but looks like db_get is in db306:23
Rytmiswould really like direct rendering :(06:23
dooglusjdmpike: no, it won't06:23
Nytryxrun free -m and tell me if your swap is being used?06:23
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ilba7rkbrosnan i usually use the installion cd in in rescue mode. just at boot type rescue. then use grub-install /dev/hda06:24
ilba7rfor master boot record re installation06:24
jdmpikedooglus, I see that now06:24
dooglusoxez: debconf provides /usr/share/debconf/confmodule which defines db_get06:24
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dooglusjdmpike: g+s is the "setgid" bit.  it allows the person who runs the file to be a member of the file's group temporarily06:25
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jdmpikeaTypical, basically the concept I am trying to emulate is a Shared Docs directory in Winbl0ws06:25
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oxezdooglus: hm ok, thanks06:25
kbrosnanthanks ilba7r06:26
jdmpikedooglus, I will chmod 775 -R my directory then, thanks for the info06:26
ilba7rur welcomed kbronsnan06:26
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ilba7rkbronsnan i think there is a guide for it on unofficial ubuntu guide06:27
dooglusjdmpike: I don't know a way to get files to automatically change permissions when they enter a folder.  but you could set up a regular job to change them.06:27
kbrosnanok i should be able to find that06:27
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jdmpikedooglus, I have never done anything with cron, can you help me?06:27
ilba7rkbronsnan and typing rescue will take you to a like installation menu do nto be afraid then at the end you will have a shell where you can type grub-install06:28
dooglusjdmpike: sure06:28
de_DustyCitiHi everyone. Could someone tell me how can I boot the ubuntu-live cd ISO image on my hdd with the grub boot loader command line?06:28
dooglusjdmpike: which user should be running the job?06:28
g00r0nanyone know how to get rid of the need for a password ring manager?06:28
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jdmpikedooglus: thanks! we could run it as my user, or any member of group users I think06:29
jdmpikedooglus, so that is 'jordan'06:29
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ChrisHey Seveas, You Dont Know about Any Free Shell Accounts do You?06:29
dooglusjdmpike: you run "crontab -e" to edit your crontab - but that will probably use "vi".  are you comfortable in vi?06:30
jdmpikedooglus, yeah06:30
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jdmpikedooglus, will this run even when my user isn't logged in06:30
dooglusjdmpike: so run "crontab -e" as your user06:31
kbrosnanilba7r, the command prompt is not an issue, I just want to do it right the first time.06:31
EasterSunshinedoes anyone know of a way to run X on a bigger resolution than my monitor supports but only display a part of the screen at a time?06:31
dooglusjdmpike: it will run as long as the box is booted (and not in single user mode)06:31
ChrisCould Any1 Give A Free Shell Account?06:31
DJ_MirageChris, ofc.06:31
jdmpikedooglus, I did that - it brings up /tmp/crontab.jYkBdg/crontab06:31
DJ_Miragepaypal me 50$ and id give you a year06:31
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ilba7rkbronsnan i know i did not want the installation menu to scare you. just make sure you use the right device /dev/hda or /dev/sda or whatever you have06:31
ChrisDJ_Miragei have no cash06:32
dooglusjdmpike: right.  is it empty?06:32
jdmpikeyup06:32
EasterSunshineand when i move the mouse to the edge of the displayed, it would display more06:32
jdmpikedooglus, yup06:32
DJ_MirageChris, sorry, then there is no such thing as free :)06:32
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Chrislmfao06:32
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Chrisubuntu is free, why cant ppl give free shells?06:33
dooglusjdmpike: add a line saying:     * * * * * chmod -R 775 /path/to/folder06:33
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_jasonChris, google "free shell account"06:33
Chris_jason i have:(06:33
wimlol good luck on that06:33
dooglusjdmpike: then save the file and exit vi.  that will run the chmod command once a minute06:33
_jasonChris, and?06:33
dooglusjdmpike: it has to be 5 stars...06:33
wimi found a couple that you need to send a postcard to and then he might give a shell06:33
Chris_jason nothing really there...06:33
_jasonChris, I just tried that yesterday, there were plenty of hits06:34
jdmpikedooglus, my user can run that06:34
jdmpikedooglus, I would need to sudo06:34
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GudBauhello06:34
GudBaui have installed ubuntu now06:35
Kuyaedzits too early in the morning to think... someone remind me the command to create a symbolic link06:35
jdmpikedooglus, should I just su - and change cron for root06:35
wimyou might find a couple of shells .... but none that will give you background prosesses06:35
Chris_jason half the site u go to have not got the space i need or have given up06:35
GudBauwhat packages i must install for compile the kernel ?????06:35
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dooglusjdmpike: that would work06:35
Linuturkcan I install ubuntu from the live cd?06:35
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_jasonChris, oh, yeah the space could be problematic06:35
GudBausome development base packages06:35
dooglusjdmpike: otherwise you'll have issues with sudo wanting your password06:35
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aTypicalLinuturk, I don't think so.06:35
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jdmpikedooglus, except I don't know roots password in Ubuntu... doh!06:36
dooglusjdmpike: run "sudo -i" to become root06:36
GudBauLinuturk, ubuntu installation is very simple06:36
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Linuturkjdmpike, it's the password you set for your account06:36
GudBaui cociles you use the install cd06:36
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jdmpikedooglus, I just did sudo crontab -e06:36
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GudBauconcil06:36
dooglusjdmpike: that's fine06:36
CrapounetHi there06:36
AdarkAngelHi06:37
LinuturkGudBau, I just don't want to wait for the install cd to download. I gave my copy away to a friend06:37
Linuturk:(06:37
Chris_jason id need like 1gb a space06:37
GudBau1 hours06:37
dooglusjdmpike: if you want the command to run less often, change one of the *'s, as described in "man 5 crontab"06:37
GudBauand iso is downloaded06:37
GudBau:)06:37
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jdmpikedooglus, so my new cron for root does chmod -R 775 /home/shared and chgrp -R users /home/shared06:38
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Linuturkat 30 kb/s , it's taking about 3 hours06:38
dooglusjdmpike: you can (I think) put both commands on the same line, separated with a semicolon06:38
Raskallanyone know how to get norwegian (and other international characters) in slrn in breezy? worked in hoary, but now I only get the characters as <E5> <F8> and such06:39
dooglusjdmpike: to run every 3 minutes instead of every minute, use "*/3 * * * *" in front of the command06:39
jdmpikedooglus, I don't want it to run time based at all - I want it to run whenever a new file or directory is placed in the shared directory, is that possible?06:39
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gimmulFtrying to play an .mp4 file in gmplayer but the sound gets 2x too fast06:39
mdkehi all. Slight problem with [dapper] . I installed mozilla-firefox-locale-it yesterday but the package seemed to fail. While it was at it, it uninstalled firefox, epiphany, yelp and so on. Now, I can't install or remove anything because the m-f-locales-it package is half installed and can't be installed nor removed, due to the absence of update-mozilla-firefox-chrome. Any ideas?06:39
dooglusjdmpike: I don't know.06:39
gimmulFworks in vlc06:39
gimmulFtrying to play an .mp4 file in gmplayer but the sound gets 2x too fast, works in vlc but i want to use gmplayer..06:40
jdmpikedooglus, the other thing I thought about was modifying users masks - but I only want them to change when copying to this folder06:40
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dooglusjdmpike: there's something called "gam_server" which I think checks for filesystem modification.  maybe you can get gam_server to trigger a script when that directory is modified, but I don't know.06:41
jdmpikedooglus, thanks for that - I will go do some 'homework'06:41
jdmpikedooglus, I really appreciate your help - I should have just 'man'd cron a long time ago and tried to take a step out of my noobness a long time ago06:42
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RockyBurthm, whats the fastest way to use dpkg/apt to query what installed pkg a file on the filesystem belongs to06:42
RockyBurt?06:42
jdmpikedooglus is t3h r0xX0r06:42
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mdkeRockyBurt, dpkg -S06:42
dooglusjdmpike: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ is the homepage for 'gamin', which is what I was trying to tell you about06:44
laforgehello everyone06:44
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dooglusjdmpike: cron runs commands regularly, like every x minutes.  of course, the command it runs could check whether a new file has turned up since the last time it ran before doing anything, but it would still be checking regularly.06:45
dooglusjdmpike: better would be not to use cron at all, but to use something that is triggered by gamin.  if that's possible...06:45
mdkeno one can help me out?06:45
laforgesomeone who knows about a tool to convert iso-8859-15 into utf8 recursive ?06:46
laforgeunder ubuntu 5.1006:46
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rodwhats up mdke06:47
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mdkei'll repost06:47
RockyBurthm... does everyone here use powernowd as their cpu frequency controller? i'm not particularly fond of it and was wondering if there was a better one to use06:47
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mdkehi all. Slight problem with [dapper] . I installed mozilla-firefox-locale-it yesterday but the package seemed to fail. While it was at it, it uninstalled firefox, epiphany, yelp and so on. Now, I can't install or remove anything because the m-f-locales-it package is half installed and can't be installed nor removed, due to the absence of update-mozilla-firefox-chrome. Any ideas?06:47
KuyaedzI'm trying to create a sym link using: link -s [link]  [original]  & I get 'too many arguments'.  Anyone?06:47
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rodoh okay mdke :)06:47
rodone question for you first06:47
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rodhow to say 'hey cuty what's your telephone number?'  in italian06:48
DUNFreakLMA06:48
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DUNFreakO06:48
mdkehmm06:48
mdkerod, i think I may have sorted it out06:48
rodi mean; you are italian arent you? :x06:49
rodapt-get -f install06:49
jdmpikedooglus, good call on gamin, this definitely what I want to use06:49
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ChrisCould Any1 Give A Free Shell Account?06:49
dooglusjdmpike: if you get it working, please paste a short description of your solution in here06:50
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joachim-nanyone use bluefish?06:50
GudBaucarino sto synaptic06:50
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laforgeused it for a while but removed again to kate06:50
mdkerod, no i'm not italian. but it is "ciao bella, mi dai il numero di telefono?"06:51
DUNFreakrod, that was bash.org'ed ;P06:51
mrmarcushello alll... am I in the right place to ask newb questions?06:51
DUNFreakmrmarcus, yup06:51
mrmarcusnice06:51
DUNFreakas long as you tried to google it first (which I strongly suggest)06:51
mrmarcusI have06:51
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GudBauthere is some package for make the standard linker ld configuration???06:51
DUNFreakGood! Then ask away and we'll try to help06:52
mrmarcuswith the grub boot guy... how do I configure that?06:52
laforgeso much to google06:52
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DUNFreakmrmarcus, are you sure you googled? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8658706:53
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p0mppuis it really really true that no new packages are released before the new Ubuntu version?06:53
mrmarcusyes... I have winxp and linux and I want to configure it to default to winxp06:53
DUNFreaksorry that might not answer your question06:53
mrmarcuscouldn't find an answer06:53
p0mppuon that aspect Arch beats ubuntu 10-006:53
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mrmarcusalso wanted to edit it to take out an old install of winxp06:54
p0mppumrmarcus: change grub/lilo so XP is default06:54
mdkeRockyBurt, i told you already, dpkg -S06:54
mdkeoh whoops06:54
mdkeRockyBurt, sorry, scrolling issues ;)06:54
mrmarcushow do I do that?06:54
RockyBurtlol06:54
RockyBurtmdke: and i already employed your answer, so thanks :)06:54
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p0mppumrmarcus: edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst if you use grub, or if lilo, then lilo's config06:55
mrmarcusgot ya... thank you06:55
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mrmarcuseverytime I try to edit a file it says read only????06:56
ChrisSeveas You There?06:56
p0mppumrmarcus: change it to read-write06:56
p0mppube sure to edit it as root06:56
p0mppuor sudo06:56
rosenwhat is the command for changing owner of a folder ?06:56
DUNFreakmrmarcus: sudo nautilus06:56
SeveasChris, yes06:56
p0mppurosen: chown <owner>:<group> folder06:56
DUNFreakfrom any terminal window :)06:56
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ChrisSeveas Do You Know Any Where to Get Free Shells?06:57
DUNFreakor sudo gedit <filename>06:57
ChrisSeveas Determinist said You might Know06:57
rosenp0mppu, if I want the owner to be root, would I type ROOT, Root or root ? ;)06:57
DUNFreakrosen, all lowercase06:57
p0mppurosen: root of course06:57
czy06:57
rosengoodie06:57
rosenthanks :)06:57
p0mppuRoot is different from ROOT and that different from root06:57
rosenyeah06:58
p0mppuand root lowercase is the main user06:58
rosencool06:58
Kuyaedzanyone suggest how to add the trash bin to the desktop itself?06:58
p0mppubut anyway..Ubuntu-guys..are you saying I can't get for example Firefox 1.5 from Synaptic before next reelase of Ubuntu?06:58
p0mppuArch releases updatepackages all the time06:58
Sophisticationthats got to be a bash.org quote right there -- Kuyaedz anyone suggest how to add the trash bin to the desktop itself?06:58
p0mppunew versions, I mean06:58
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laforgep0mppu: whats about flock ?06:59
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p0mppulaforge: flock?06:59
mdkeKuyaedz, go into your configuration editor, and go to apps/nautilus/desktop06:59
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mdkeKuyaedz, set "trash_icon_visible"06:59
Kuyaedzthanks06:59
laforgep0mppu: I use that one you can get on www.flock.com06:59
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laforgeready for web2.0 :D06:59
p0mppulaforge: no, I really want Firefox :)06:59
mdkep0mppu, you can install it from mozilla.org07:00
p0mppuI just mean, Ubuntu sucks if you want up-to-date packages07:00
Amaranthflock is so emo07:00
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p0mppumdke: but not through Synaptic07:00
laforgep0mppu: its a firefox 1.0X-fork07:00
mdkep0mppu, no, that is correct07:00
p0mppuif you want up-to-date pkgs in Ubuntu, you'll have to hunt them yourself07:00
p0mppuArch provides you them07:00
Amaranthp0mppu: Firefox is a pretty large upgrade.07:00
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mdkep0mppu, well go use arch then07:00
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mdkep0mppu, you won't get the same stability though07:00
p0mppumdke: I've used07:00
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mdkeit's a compromise07:00
p0mppuand I can say, I do get07:01
p0mppu:)07:01
jdmpikep0mppu - ubuntu rules07:01
p0mppujdmpike: I'd say, Ubuntu rules except if you want new packages07:01
p0mppuArch rules even then :)07:01
Amaranthp0mppu: does arch have gnome 2.12?07:01
mdkewith a distribution that introduces rolling updates to significant packages, you have to sacrifice stability07:01
p0mpputhough it's got some minor problems07:01
mdkethose are the rules07:01
staakacan someone recomend wherei can get  tcl8.4.12-src.tar.gz that actually ix in a .gz format07:01
ChrisSeveas U There?;\07:01
p0mppuAmaranth: yes as far as I know and have asked07:01
staakai gunziped it and it says it's not in .gz format07:01
laforgeanyone who knows another tool instead iconv to convert files to utf8 ? and whole directories ?07:01
p0mppumdke: I have seen no stability problems in Arch07:02
ElitePetecan anyone here help me with a vmware problem?07:02
p0mppuI've used it a long time before Ubuntu07:02
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mrmarcusanother question... ;) does everything have to be installed through synaptic?07:02
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Sophisticationsynaptic is just a gui for newbs07:02
RockyBurtapt-get is your friend07:02
mdkemrmarcus, it is a good idea to use the package management system07:02
Sophisticationmrmarcus, man apt-get07:03
mrmarcus<---- equals newb07:03
mdkemrmarcus, if you don't like synaptic, you can use other tools07:03
AmaranthSophistication: I prefer synaptic.07:03
laforgeyeah, apt-get sometimes makes me the day...07:03
SophisticationAmaranth, but I didn't ask you...07:03
mdkeSophistication, be polite please07:03
AmaranthSophistication: You said it was for newbs.07:03
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Oblivion^hello, i am trying to play audio files on my linux box, but when i open an mp3 file in totem i hear no sound. i have installed the restricted formats and alsamixer also sees my soundcard07:03
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Sophisticationmdke, whats your problem07:03
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aeon17x!java07:04
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:04
mdkeSophistication, no problem, just be polite please07:04
SophisticationAmaranth, so there is free speach in here07:04
laforgeOblivion^: maybe you should chose another soundserver in the totem-config ?07:04
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SophisticationAmaranth, Or is this South Afirca07:04
lambnewbie question here.. how can I make my terminal window borderless?07:04
AmaranthSophistication: Not when you're putting down others.07:04
n0dldoes anyone know a good terminal emulator (not urxvt,gnome,konsole,xfce4-terminal,or xterm?)07:04
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SophisticationAmaranth, I dont see how I was07:04
mdken0dl, heh, you've eliminated quite a few there :) I like urxvt07:04
laforgen0dl: maybe aterm ?07:04
Stormx2Hi07:04
AmaranthSophistication: Calling someone a newb isn't very nice.07:04
SophisticationAmaranth, now back off before I get ill & start breaken shit07:04
Oblivion^laforge: where do i find the totem config?07:05
AmaranthSophistication: Are you threatening me?07:05
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rosenDoes the '2' in this return mean that there is now two owners of this folder ? drwx------   2 root      rosendahl   4096 2005-12-13 14:0507:05
SophisticationAmaranth, fuck ya07:05
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Stormx2Someone get this guy kicked07:05
Siph0nevery time i try and reinstall klibido, when i run klibido i get that it cant read my network list from ~/.DCIOserver_Wepwawet__0 . And to please check the dcopserver program is running..07:05
arpu_hi @all07:05
Siph0nany ideas how to fix this?07:05
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ElitePetecan anyone help me with a vmware problem?07:05
laforgeOblivion^: maybe edit -> configuration ?07:05
heymrdjhello07:05
Amaranthhi07:06
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laforgeOblivion^: I don't know the file-structure of totem :)07:06
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joachim-ngah. I get NO work done on linux because I always find bugs to file :(07:06
heymrdjI need some help with running ubuntu on a server if anybody can help07:06
laforgeOblivion^: -file +menu07:06
arpu_i have a problem with gaim 2.0 in dapper i can not loginn to any account msn icq .. and no login or connect windows is shown07:06
staakacan someone recomend wherei can get  tcl8.4.12-src.tar.gz that actually ix in a .gz format07:06
Oblivion^laforge: it also doesn't work with with rythmbox and mpd07:06
ptomeshello all, i tried install ubuntu flight 2 on thursday but after install x server (GDM) didn't start despite there is also Ubuntu 5.10 on that PC which works fine. I saw some technical logs about this but i didn't underestand. Now I am on another place with windows but i'd like report this bug if somebody tell me how (which information is important and which log files i should attach to...07:06
ptomes...bugzilla/malone. thank everyone who will advise me.07:06
Oblivion^laforge: nd mpg32107:06
arpu_have anyone a idea ?07:06
AmaranthOblivion^: I believe Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor then /apps/totem is what you want07:06
staakai gunziped it and it says it's not in .gz format07:06
Amaranthor /apps/gnome/totem, i can't remember how they do that07:07
laforgeOblivion^: so maybe you have to check the loaded modules for your current soundserver07:07
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Oblivion^laforge: that would be alsa right? i've loaded those07:07
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ElitePetecan anyone help me with a vmware problem?07:07
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DelvienHow do i turn off the system BEEP ??? omg its so annoying07:07
AmaranthOblivion^: You told gstreamer to use alsa and you're using totem-gstreamer?07:07
laforgeOblivion^: so try to restart the alsa-server07:07
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AmaranthElitePete: You'd have to say what was wrong first.07:07
cartesian1984!lart windows users07:07
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Oblivion^Amaranth: no, i'm using all kinds of audio players, and no one works07:08
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Oblivion^laforge: ok07:08
ElitePeteAmaranth, when using vmware xp pro i can only connect to the internet through nat, not bridged networking so i cannot play any games because all my ports are closed.07:08
RockyBurtso.... is dapper drake stable enough yet to be used as an unstable desktop? or is it simply too unstable to use at all at this point?07:08
ChrisSeveas U There?;\07:08
ltibor65Hi Linux-Users!07:08
Stormx2Hi ltibor65!07:08
heymrdjhey Elite Pete you know about VPS software such as vmware?07:08
Oblivion^laforge: no, it's not working when i restart alsa07:08
heymrdjCause I need help with Xen on Ubuntu07:09
AmaranthOblivion^: Open a terminal, type `sudo sh -c 'cat /usr/bin/* > /dev/dsp'07:09
ElitePeteheymrdj, i'm no exper.07:09
ltibor65How can I automatically mount the floppy in Ubuntu 5.10?07:09
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ElitePeteheymrdj, i'm having my own problem right now :\07:09
Amarantherr, without that ` at the beginning07:09
heymrdjoh sry ;/07:09
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Stormx2ltibor65: Put it in the drive?07:09
ChrisCould Any one Give A Free SSH Account?07:09
DelvienHow do i Change KDM to deafault to GDM?07:10
Oblivion^Amaranth: i'm hearing nothing07:10
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AmaranthOblivion^: Did you get any error?07:10
ltibor65Stormx2, I can manually mount it, but it starts not by startup automatically.07:11
Oblivion^Amaranth: except for the '/usr/bin/X11: Is a directory, no07:11
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AmaranthOblivion^: Then your sound works, it's just muted.07:11
DelvienHow do i Change KDM to deafault to GDM?07:11
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Oblivion^Amaranth: i've checked and it is not muted. or i missed something07:11
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AmaranthNo one do what chanreg just said.07:12
MrSunshinecan i change from kubuntu to something else without having to reinstall ? :/07:12
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Ophiocushow daft you got to be to attempt exploits in freenode?07:12
Amaranthmrsunshine: Just install the ubuntu-desktop package to get GNOME or xubuntu-desktop package to get XFCE07:12
Ophiocuswere like the meka of the white hats meet07:12
SeveasChris, I don't deal in free shells, an if you already use linux you have free shells on your machine07:12
nekostarhi Seveas07:12
ElitePeteAmaranth, when using vmware xp pro i can only connect to the internet through nat, not bridged networking so i cannot play any games because all my ports are closed.07:12
AmaranthDelvien: uninstall kdm, install gdm07:13
Oblivion^Amaranth: when i try playing an mp3 in mpd it starts playing for about 1 second and then it stops again, and you hear nothing. that's why i think sound isn't muted07:13
nekostaro.O everyone's opped up!07:13
AmaranthElitePete: That's a vmware and/or windows issue.07:13
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Seveashi Nekos07:13
Seveasnekostar even07:13
MrSunshineAmaranth, thanks07:13
AmaranthOblivion^: Hrm, I dunno then. Sorry.07:13
Oblivion^Amaranth: ok07:13
Oblivion^and does anyone know how to change the default runlevel?07:14
ltibor65Do  anybody  has idea, how to mount floppy drive automatically at startup?07:14
DelvienAmaranth no there iss some reconfigure command i can use but i forget what it is07:14
feclarei'm trying to install flight cd-2 in a usb disk07:14
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feclareinstall go fine07:14
feclarebut it don't boot07:14
Stormx2I hope Seveas gets around soon.07:14
AmaranthDelvien: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm07:15
feclareit is no  loading the usb driver07:15
mrmarcuswith unbuntu can I install vlc?07:15
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ChrisSeveas Do You Know Any Where to Get Free Shells?07:15
feclareany idea?07:15
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Amaranthfeclare: dapper is switching to new kernels, your best bet is to wait for flight 307:15
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Delvienthanks07:15
Amaranthmrmarcus: sudo apt-get install vlc07:15
Amaranthmrmarcus: or use synaptic07:15
SeveasChris, no and that's highly off topic in here, please go somewhere else07:16
mrmarcusif it isn't in synaptic how to i get it there?07:16
SeveasStormx2, ping07:16
feclarethx Amaranth07:16
Amaranthmrmarcus: you need to enable universe and multiverse07:16
Amaranth!tell mrmarcus about repos07:16
mrmarcuscool... thank you07:16
rickestAmaranth: can you send that bothelp to me too, please?07:17
Amaranth!tell rickest about repos07:17
rickestty07:17
Amaranthrickest: You can PM the bot with 'repos' (no quotes) and it'll PM you back.07:17
Amaranthrickest: or any other commands07:17
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Amaranthwelcome back07:18
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MrSunshineahh xfce407:18
MrSunshinenow im home again! :>07:18
Seveas:)07:18
MrSunshinebut this also wont let me change ... wtf :>07:18
MrSunshineok .. gentoo let me set whatever display settings i wanted07:18
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rosenis there some way to make it ask me for the password when I try to 'click' my way into a folder that is protected by root-password.. Instead of it just saying 'permission denied'07:18
MrSunshinebut ubuntu wont? :/07:18
Seveasrosen, not easily07:18
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rosenSeveas, aw that's too bad :>07:19
SeveasMrSunshine, edit xorg.conf, restart X server07:19
Amaranthmrsunshine: ah, that problem07:19
MrSunshineSeveas, edit what in it?07:19
Amaranth!tell mrsunshine about fixres07:19
rickest!easysource07:19
ubotuI heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:19
MrSunshinei have the one that i used with my gentoo installation07:19
SeveasMrSunshine, HorizRefresh, VertRefresh etc...07:19
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AmaranthSeveas: the thing i sent him has step by step instructions for finding and setting all that07:20
ltibor65Amaranth, how can I automatically mount floppy drive in order to start it at startup? Can you help me?07:20
Myrttistartup of what07:20
Stormx2Seveas: Hello07:20
Amaranthltibor65: You mean you want to boot from a floppy?07:20
Oblivion^how can i change the default runlevel?07:20
axisysis there a repo for gizmo?07:20
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AmaranthOblivion^: I don't think Ubuntu really has different (X vs non-X) runlevels07:21
SeveasStormx2, buenos dias07:21
SeveasAmaranth, init 1 is X-less :)07:21
AmaranthSeveas: haha07:21
djm62Oblivion^: you are free to customise the other runlevels07:21
Stormx2Seveas: I'm getting a 403 from the sun-j2re1.5 package at your repos.07:21
Oblivion^Amaranth: so when i've installed X i can't boot without X anymore?07:21
SeveasStormx2, -> PM :)07:21
ltibor65Amaranth, no, I want only that floppy works.07:21
Oblivion^Amaranth: i wanted to use init 3 as a default runlevel07:22
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AmaranthOblivion^: I don't believe so, unless you customize the run levels.07:22
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AmaranthOblivion^: There is a GUI tool for that, I believe it's called BUM07:22
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Oblivion^Amaranth: ok, i'll try that07:22
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TenPlus1hey guys... how's everyone ?07:22
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Snellgroveoh man, i discovered composite managers today.  I have made ubuntu very very beautiful indeed ^_^07:22
SeveasSnellgrove, :)07:23
AmaranthI remember I was porting RedHat's runlevel config GUI tool to Ubuntu and noticed someone already wrote one.07:23
djm62Snellgrove: how's the acceleration?07:23
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SeveasI still need to play with composite07:23
AmaranthSeveas: Why was +J removed?07:23
apricothello07:23
Snellgroveive slowed it down with loads of transparency so its about the same as before i started LOL07:23
AmaranthSeveas: lilo told me to set it :)07:23
SeveasAmaranth, far too many false positives07:23
apricothow to install tv-card ?07:23
AmaranthSeveas: So tweak the settings on it, don't drop it.07:23
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SeveasAmaranth, and lilo now (hopefully) fixed freenode, so the bots stay gone07:23
Amaranthswitching to chat.freenode.net isn't a fix07:23
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Oblivion^how can i access the oss mixer?07:24
Seveasno, they fixed other things...07:24
Amaranthand he can't k-line every zombie XP machine in the world07:24
Seveasirc. is working again07:24
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djm62Snellgrove: ubuntu is a beatiful OS...10.6 should be really nice, though: new X, new gnome07:24
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Amaranththey just flip irc. off until the bots stop hitting it, then flip it back on07:24
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laforgeanyone who knows another tool instead iconv to convert files to utf8 ? and whole directories ?07:24
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Amaranthdjm62: that's 6.0407:24
SeveasAmaranth, afaik they "patched" things too, don't know the details...07:24
Snellgrovenice :)   i sent a screeny to a devout XP user, he asked me to bring the ubuntu disc round and now he has it on his laptop (still using XP on main PC though) he was impressed with how far linux has come, since he last used it (suse 7 or so)07:25
Seveasbut it seems to work (irc. is working and no bots)07:25
Oblivion^ok, now i'm confused. when i run volume meter the meters are indicating sound, but i don't hear anything. i did unmute everything for as far as i know :/07:25
djm62Amaranth: 6.10, when people have had time to play with modular X ;)07:25
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axisys!tell gizmo07:25
AmaranthSeveas: Couldn't have, that would have required the very "fun" reboot of every server in the network.07:25
Snellgrovei was impressed with how it picked up the batteries / power management, the laptops special buttons etc..  didnt think ubuntu would be *that* good with laptops!!  glad to be wrong :D07:25
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MrSunshinenone of those tricks works ... i get incorrect vesa bios etc etc07:25
TenPlus1How easy is it to connect to a WinXP workgroup sharename using Ubuntu ????07:25
Amaranthdjm62: As long as Xorg 7 makes it for dapper 7.1 should make it for dapper+1, they are going to be 6 month releases. So yeah, it'll be nice.07:25
SeveasAmaranth, poke lilo for the details, I don't know anything about it other than that it seems to work07:26
cartesian1984!lart gizmo07:26
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apricothow to install tv-card, please?07:26
Amarantharg07:26
markiveany know why bash says bash: make: command not found07:26
SnellgroveTenPlus1,  pretty easy :) go to places > network servers07:26
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Amaranthi wish i knew how to login to ubotu, i'd disable lart07:26
Snellgroveyou should see a windows network in there :)07:26
Stormx2markive: apt-get install build-essential07:26
Stormx2markive: I think...07:26
djm62apricot: you might be better looking at the wiki or google, since TV cards are quite unusual07:26
axisysmarkive: find /usr -print | grep make07:26
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TenPlus1thx Snellgrove07:26
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ltibor65Who can me help by mounting floppy drive?07:26
apricoti ment tv-tuner07:27
axisysmarkive: may be not in your path or insall build-essential like Stormx2 said07:27
markivethanks guys i'll try um07:27
ptomesis here some ubuntu localizator?07:27
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Amaranth!floppy07:27
ubotuAmaranth: Do they come in packets of five?07:27
Amaranthhrm07:27
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aTypicalltibor65, sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy might work.07:27
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djm62apricot: so did I :)07:27
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TenPlus1How come Ubuntu see's my Intel CS-110 webcam ..but.. when I goto use it, it hangs the whole system ??07:27
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apricotaha, get it07:28
Amaranth!forget floppy07:28
ubotuAmaranth: i didn't have anything called 'floppy'07:28
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apricotok, what about win key?07:28
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djm62apricot: you can customise that :)07:28
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apricotcould i angage it in the way linux key?07:28
okihIs it possible to get spyware in linux?07:28
Stormx2apricot: To do what, exactly?07:28
apricotto switch to linux when i am in the game07:29
Stormx2okih: Yes, but its not something people get usually on linux.07:29
djm62apricot: System->Preferences->Keyboard07:29
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ltibor65aTypical, thanks, manually can I mount the floppy, but how can it automatically starts at startup?07:29
okihStormx2: Is there any way to get rid of it?07:29
markivei'm trying to install T-BEAR version 1.507:29
djm62okih: it's possible, if it's GPL then it's extremely unlikely (because people can look at the source code and remove the misfeatures)07:30
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Stormx2okih: Not sure. Do a synaptic search for "spyware"07:30
djm62okih: do you think you have spyware?07:30
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TenPlus1wow, I got Ubuntu to work on my spectrum 128k.... neat! :)07:30
TenPlus1takes ages to load tho07:30
Stormx2okih: Most spyware comes from Internet Explorer, which is something linux doesn't have, except if you emulate it, and even then, it can do no harm07:30
markiveanybodt got T-BEAR version 1.5 running?07:30
SeveasStormx2, I beg to differ07:30
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apricotok07:31
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okihYeah, I sometimes get spyware on firefox though.07:31
okihLike those tracking cookies.07:31
MrSunshineyay in your face modlines! :P07:31
MrSunshinei think07:31
markivei can't figure out all this /configure make install stuff07:31
SeveasA friend of mine once ran all kinds of crap with wine, just for the fun of it07:31
djm62Stormx2: the wine team have got some windows viruses to run07:31
Ribsokih: That's only a cookie, does very little damage really07:31
Stormx2Ah scary :(07:31
okihOk07:31
TenPlus1if you use the adblock extension for firefox, it helps a lot with spyware and banner ads07:31
aTypicalltibor65, I think you'd need to add it to /etc/fstab07:31
SeveasStormx2, and when he later synced his homedrive with his work server, the sysadmin at his work panicked :)07:31
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SAM_themanwhat the hell?07:31
djm62okih: you might want to look for anti-spyware extensions for firefox (or use a different browser)07:31
SeveasStormx2, so it does do harm :)07:31
okihOk, thanks.07:31
Amaranthltibor65: http://www.alwanza.com/howto/linux/floppy.html might help07:32
Stormx2Seveas: ah, I see.07:32
SAM_themanhow come this chat works in windows and not in ubuntu07:32
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djm62SAM_theman: IRC isn't linux compatible07:32
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MrSunshinethats a problem07:32
SAM_themanok07:32
okihSAM_theman: I'm in ubuntu now and it's working07:32
Seveaslol@djm6207:32
mrmarcusamaranth... what was that bot you sent me?? I accidently closed it.07:32
Amaranthdjm62: haha07:32
Stormx2Seveas: It is a bit of a struggle to get some activex controls working in IE even if you have wine07:32
SAM_themanthats weird07:32
MrSunshinexfce4 version doesnt ask for my root pass when running all the fun stuff :P07:32
Amaranth!fixres07:32
ubotufixres is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:32
Amaranthmrmarcus: ^07:32
LjLSAM_theman: can you elaborate "doesn't work"?07:32
SAM_themani just left ubuntu because it wasn't working07:32
ALC-JOwhats up07:32
djm62SAM_theman: not really...it should work equally well with xchat or gaim07:33
Stormx2Seveas: Seen the new IE bug? You can make it launch whatever you want. The concept site made it launch calculator07:33
mrmarcusthanks again...07:33
beelzebub1987anyone know of any linux grf file editors?07:33
SAM_themanit launches and when i go to FreeNode.net it hangs and says error07:33
AmaranthSAM_theman: it's irc.freenode.net07:33
SAM_themangaim works'07:33
SAM_themani know07:33
SeveasStormx2, I don't even want to know... although, I could make ubuntu-nl.org launc format c:/ >:)07:33
DUNFreakSAM_theman, maybe firewall was on?07:33
SAM_themani meant that07:33
SAM_themanhow i take it our07:33
SAM_theman*out07:33
TenPlus1I wonder when the hell Gaim-vv will make an appearance... I need video and voice dammit...07:33
SAM_themanOff07:33
LjLSAM_theman: perhaps it times out because it cannot receive an identd replies. happens to me sometimes07:33
DeterministSeveas, hmm, i wonder how exactly07:33
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SeveasTenPlus1, within days07:33
Stormx2Seveas: Exactly. Or system shutdown.07:33
djm62TenPlus1: gaim 2.0, with full google messenger support and the rest07:34
Stormx2Seveas: Its scary what a piece of junk over 75% of people use.07:34
foampeaceanyone know how to mount a .cue .bin to filesystem?07:34
DUNFreakSAM_theman, check in the Synaptic Package Manager and search for firewall. Just uninstall it07:34
Seveasfoampeace, use bchunk to convert it to iso07:34
ElitePetehi i have a question, where would a07:34
djm62foampeace: as opposed to being able to read it from nautilus?07:34
Seveasand mount the iso07:34
SAM_themano oik07:34
ElitePeteample Linux vmnetnat.conf File go?07:34
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DeterministStormx2, where's that concept site, i wanna see how that works :)07:34
SAM_themani'll thanks i try it aghain07:34
Linuturkgaim 2.0 is out?07:34
foampeaceSeveas: ok thanks07:34
SeveasLinuturk, Real Soon Now07:35
foampeacedjm62: it can read it in nautilus?07:35
Linuturkah07:35
ElitePeteLinux vmnetnat.conf File for vmware, where does that go?07:35
Linuturkprespective date?07:35
SeveasLinuturk, Real Soon Now :)07:35
djm62foampeace: I think so... if not you might need to convert it to ise07:35
djm62*iso07:35
rickestsynaptic searches pkg names/desc that aren't installed. can you do that from the cmdline with dpkg?07:35
LinuturkSeveas, are you the dev?07:36
Seveasno07:36
Linuturkand, good :)07:36
SeveasLinuturk, see http://gaim.sourceforge.net/07:36
djm62rickest: apt-cache search?07:36
ElitePetecan anyone tell me where to put a vmware linux nat config file?07:36
rickestdjm62: thanks, will try that07:36
MrSunshineubotu, tell me about opengl07:36
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djm62rickest: I usually do apt-cache search searchterm | grep othersearchterm07:37
MrSunshinehave a slight opengl problem also .. it runs fine for 4secs then it stops .. runs for like 0.1sec, stops etc ? :>07:37
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djm62(synaptic is great, but I've usually opened a command line and typed "apt-" before I remember to use it)07:38
Seveas:D07:38
cor1yhello folks anyone know where I can find a guide on compiling vlc in Ubunut?07:38
Seveassame here07:38
Seveascor1y, simple, yo don't07:38
Seveasapt-get install vlx07:38
LjLcor1y: what's wrong with the packaged vlc?07:38
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Seveasvlc even07:38
Dr_Williscor1y,  im using the apt version. :P07:38
cor1ywell I want to add w32 codecs07:38
rickestdjm62: cool, I've only messed with dpkg so far but will look more at agt-*07:38
ElitePetesudo apt-get install vlc07:38
ElitePete:-)07:38
Dr_WillisHmm.. I never noticed it needint them.,07:38
cor1ywell WMV307:39
Dr_Willisor it was using them allready.. it seems to play most anything ive tossed at it.07:39
cor1ywon't play07:39
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djm62rickest: apt is one of the Great Things about debian-based distros, linux, and computers in general07:39
ElitePeteseveas can you assist me with something?07:39
cor1yfunny that I ad the regular version it works07:39
Dr_WillisI find its more of the codec in the files.. but i guess ya could alwyas go grab the source.07:39
cor1ybut I try to compile from source with w32 codecs07:39
rickestdjm62: definitely.  I know RPM cmdline tools well but am loving ubuntu/.deb so far07:39
cor1yand it tells me I don't have wxwidgets07:40
cor1ywhich I do07:40
SeveasElitePete, depends on what it is07:40
Seveascor1y, apt-get build-dep vlc07:40
ElitePeteSeveas, port forwarding a vmware virtual machine?07:40
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rickestdjm62: and like you, I find myself invoking the cmdline tools before I even remember the GUI ones  :)07:40
soundrayNeed a hint please: is there a scholarly paper about perceptions (fears, preferences) of command line interfaces and GUIs?07:40
Sai:o07:40
SeveasElitePete, in that case no07:40
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cmathesonsoundray: hmm, i don't know if this fit's the bill, but there is an essay called 'In the Beginning There Was The Command-Line'07:41
Saii know this isnt the right channel to ask but thanks to ubuntu i can..07:41
cor1yok will do thanks07:41
Saiis there a windows chan to help me with something07:41
SaixD07:41
djm62soundray: "in the beginning was the command line"...schneierman (maybe schneiderman) is a good book on UI design07:41
soundraycmatheson, Neal Stephenson?07:41
LjLcor1y: if you look at VLC's "features" page on the site, it will tell you there is no support for WMV3 under linux07:41
cmathesonsoundray: yes07:41
cor1ywell07:41
cor1yI did get wmv3 to play07:41
soundraycmatheson, excellent, I hadn't thought of that.07:41
cor1ybut the skins library is all messed up07:42
Saisorry to have bothered *looks elsewhere*07:42
cor1ythe interface doesn't work07:42
LjLcor1y: when you say you "have" wxwidgets, do you mean you have the *development package* for it?07:42
soundrayThanks cmatheson07:42
cmathesonsoundray: :)07:42
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cor1yespehmm i just took what was on the vlc contrib07:43
cor1yand compiled from that07:43
Seveas!maccodecs is http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html07:43
ubotuSeveas: okay07:43
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LjLcor1y: why don't you try "apt-get build-dep vlc" and then compile again?07:43
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cor1yok07:44
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seanjhello people07:44
ptomesplease, could somebody advise me how it is possible to translate booting screen for installetion Ubuntu flight2? I have already experiences with rosetta infrastructure but i don't know which of packages it is... :(07:44
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Seveasptomes, the boot screen is not yet translatable07:45
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dooglusjdmpike: did you get that gamin thing worked out?07:45
HappufSeveas: i'm curious. Do you work with ubuntu?07:45
LjLcor1y: anyway, note that when you try to compile a program and it complains about missing something, it's actually asking about the *headers* for that something. a configure script might be very well "missing GTK" or "missing wxwindow" even though they're installed -- but the *development* packages (i.e. the headers) might not be07:46
HappufLike devolpment..07:46
foampeaceanyone know how to play .dat movie files with mplayer?07:46
LjLcor1y: development packages are packages whose names end with "-dev" or (rarely) with "-headers"07:46
SeveasHappuf, half07:46
JDahlfoampeace, what format is that?07:46
HappufSeveas: ok :)07:46
djm62foampeace: try "file datfilenam" at the command line07:46
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cor1yhmmm this linux thing is tough :)07:47
ptomesseveas: where i can follow news about this (and other related thigs)? we (Ubuntu CZech) are very happy to noticeably extent and improve l10n of next versions Ubuntu.07:47
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foampeaceJDahl: should be vcd07:47
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cor1yseriously thought thanks for the help07:47
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cor1yand cross your fingers07:47
seanji found windows tought when i started using it too07:47
seanj-t07:48
LjLcor1y: compiling programs is not always too easy, granted. but compiling programs is also something that's not supposed to be done too often by non-developers07:48
cor1ybeen trying for days to get this to work07:48
seanjo_O what's going on cor1y07:48
seanjmaybe i can help07:48
djm62cor1y: compiling software is inherently complex, but linux developers and tools make it as easy as possible07:48
cor1ywell vlc won't compile correctly07:48
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cor1yat least the interface is messed up07:48
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LjLcor1y: if it still doesn't compile after the apt-get build-dep, try "make distclean" and then again07:49
foampeacedjm62: avseq01.dat: ERROR: cannot read `avseq01.dat' (Input/output error)07:49
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djm62foampeace: oooh, broken07:49
cor1ythis is a special version I'm trying07:49
seanjoh crud, you're talking about doing it the 'debian way' lol07:49
cor1yI got the special part right07:49
regeyabork bork bork07:49
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Seveasptomes, the bootloader will not be translatable in a very long time07:49
LjLseanj: no we aren't07:49
seanjoh k07:50
Seveasregeya, LOL, I'm actually watching the muppet show now :)07:50
LjLseanj: it's just that his configure script is complaining that it's missing wxwindow07:50
Linuturki've shrank my windows partition by 10 gigs, and I plan on installing two distro's of linux on the remaining space. can two distro's of linux use the same swap file?07:50
foampeacedjm62: maybe not, when i used  bchunk the .cue .bin created 2 .iso. the first iso i could mount, the 2nd 1 i couldnt07:50
regeyaSeveas: heh!07:50
LjLseanj: since vlc is packaged, the easiest way to get all the dev packages that vlc needs is to use apt-get build-dep07:50
SeveasLinuturk, yes07:50
djm62cor1y: apt-get build-dep vlc; apt-get source vlc; cd vlc_whatever; debian/rules binary07:50
dooglusLinuturk: it's silly not to07:50
seanjsounds sensible07:50
ormandjhi, i have an lcd, it runs 1680x1050, ubuntu picked this up properly. however, it's supposed to operate at 75hz, and it's running at 60hz in ubuntu. how can i fix this?07:50
foampeaceSeveas: maybe not, when i used  bchunk the .cue .bin created 2 .iso. the first iso i could mount, the 2nd 1 i couldnt07:50
Linuturkgood, how much space do you recommend for the ubuntu install?07:50
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regeyaja07:51
cor1yhmmm07:51
ptomesseveas: thank you for info, but thee is some other issues such as 2 english help-menu items in each application :(07:51
Linuturkout of 9 gigs07:51
dooglusLinuturk: 5 gigs is plenty07:51
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Linuturkcool, that leaves 4 for the other distro07:51
LjLcor1y: no, don't "apt-get source vlc .....", as that will get you the *standard* vlc package07:51
Seveasptomes, 'get help online' and 'translate this app'?07:51
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ptomesseveas: yes07:51
Seveasptomes, that should be translatable on launchpad (liblaunchpadintegration)07:51
rickestLinuturk: I just did a full desktop + apache + mod_php + mod_perl install and it's right at 2G07:51
cor1ywell all I wanted was to add WMV3 support07:52
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cartesian1984my original partition was 5 gigs. i ran out of space after installing 900000 things with synaptic07:52
djm62LjL: it will get the debian directory, which could be handy in creating a package from the new/custom source code07:52
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[do_while] hi07:52
dooglusmy root partition is 5Gb and it's almost full.  can I find out how that 5Gb is divided?07:52
[do_while] it's possible to install ubuntu over NFS07:52
[do_while] ?07:52
DelvienIs there anyway to go back to DEFAULT icon theme ( iam swithcing back from KDE ) and some of my gnome icons just show up as a window... Can anyone help?07:52
Seveas[do_while] , yes07:52
LjLdjm62: oh well...07:52
[do_while] Seveas, how?07:52
LjLdjm62: i'd just use checkinstall if it were for me07:53
Seveas[do_while] , dunno, but look at the wiki07:53
[do_while] i don't found it07:53
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Linuturkrickest, i want plenty of room, that's all07:53
ilba7rDelvien try to rerun gnome-settings-daemon07:53
rickestis there an easy way to boot the Ubuntu LiveCD to console only?  Have read the /doc/* and don't see anything07:53
djm62LjL: I'm always deeply suspicious of that sort of thing, but I'm sure it does the job07:53
ptomesseveas: such projects doesn't exists on launchpad :( https://launchpad.net/products/?text=liblaunchpadintegration07:53
rickestLinuturk: just giving you an idea of what my install has taken so far07:54
Linuturkah, thx07:54
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aTypicalI seem to have lost my applications menu.  I click on it and it flickers for a second, but then is gone.07:54
DelvienYou can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting07:54
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LjLcor1y: this is what i'd do to compile "cd <vlc-directory>; sudo apt-get build-dep vlc; make distclean; make dist-clean; ./configure <any-option-you-want>; make; sudo checkinstall"07:54
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ilba7rDelvien than i presume the kde setting daemon is still running07:54
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LjLdjm62: the packages it creates are not quite standard, but it's definitely better than just using make install07:55
ilba7rdid you reboot after uninstalling kde?07:55
cor1ywell if this one fails again I'll try yours07:55
ilba7rand did you uninstall all packages07:55
Linuturkwasn't there a plan to release xubuntu, with the XFCE desktop as default?07:55
Delvieniiba7r ? umm i installed KDE about 3 months ago :P07:55
Delvieniibatr im just now making a switch back to gnome07:55
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foampeacewhats a kvcd?07:56
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ilba7rDelvien ok sorry my ffriend have no idea how to help. Though i just tried kde and ran back to gnome it soo hurt the eye lol07:56
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MrSunshinestrange, installed nvidia-glx and now my starting X is REALY slow .. ive got an tnt2 m6407:57
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Delvieniiba7r well do you know how to edit the icons that are in system /administration?07:57
djm62LjL: the thing with make install is that it goes in /usr/local which means I can keep an eye on it07:57
Joshier35Hello there, i would like some help regarding my instillation of ubuntu (amd 64). There are many drivers which just arn't there for my hardware ( such as 9800 radeon pro, my network card -- nVIDIA nForce3 ) and other such things. If i can get the network card to work (it says its running in the contorl panel, but when i put the details in and click ok, nothing happens and i still get no internet access. ) If i can get the network card to w07:58
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ilba7rDelvien you mean you want to assign the icons by hand. you can use the menu editor SMEG or just right click on the menu item and edit it07:58
Delvieniiba7r i mean the ones that dont show up on smeg07:58
MrSunshineand how to restore everything i dont know :/07:59
ProN00bcan anyone tell me some cool program for ubuntu i really need and most likely not already have ?07:59
Tarantulafudgedoes anyone know how I can get my extra keyboard lights to work? I have a messages LED that I wanna use for my email.07:59
djm62ProN00b: are you running beagle?07:59
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Linuturkwasn't there a plan to release xubuntu, with the XFCE desktop as default?07:59
LjLdjm62: it goes to /usr/local with checkinstall as well07:59
ProN00bdjm62, breezy08:00
ntldrhow do I switch to KDE?08:00
SeveasLinuturk, will (hopefully) be done for 6.04 or else 6.1008:00
djm62ProN00b: beagle is a cool desktop search thing08:00
LjLdjm62: checkinstall just runs make install while keeping track of every change it makes to the filesystem, so that it knows which files to put in a package08:00
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Seveasntldr, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && apt-get remove brain08:00
Seveas:)08:00
ilba7rDelvien no08:00
LjLdjm62: that way, you can remove the program by simply removing the package (and reinstall it by simply installing the package)08:00
dooglusdjm62: I tried beagle once.  it crashed breezy when I tried to "/bin/rm -fr /usr/src"08:00
LinuturkSeveas, anyway to preorder the stamp cd?08:00
ilba7rseveas lol remove brain and eyes and comfort lol08:00
ProN00booh, djm62 i think i have seen it bevore08:01
SeveasLinuturk, they will not send out xubuntu cd's08:01
Delvieniiba7r because they are screwed up and i dont know how to fix them08:01
djm62dooglus: you did what?!?08:01
dooglusdjm62: apparently beagle tries to update its database every time you delete a file.  /usr/src contained thousands of files, which I deleted all at once.  beagle couldn't handle it.08:01
Joshier35in other words, where can i find linux drivers ( ubuntu ) for my hardware, is there any decent sites?08:01
dooglusdjm62: I deleted the kernel sources08:01
djm62ah right08:01
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SeveasJoshier35, don't think so windows08:01
djm62dooglus: I thought it only indexed /home08:01
ilba7rDelvien frankly i do not use the menus as i used to i nearly administrate my pc from the command line now08:01
dooglusdjm62: I don't think so08:01
SeveasJoshier35, all drivers are included in the kernel08:01
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ProN00banything else ?08:02
cmathesondooglus: probably want to rm -rf /usr/src/* as opposed to /usr/src08:02
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LjLJoshier35: perhaps you should try using the 32-bit version of ubuntu rather than the 64-bit version, if that's what you're using08:02
SWAThow much watt does a monitor (LCD or CRT) use nowadays?08:02
Joshier35Seveas .. well that can't be right, because i have a 9800 pro radeon. a nforce chipset net work (08:02
Joshier35K8N Neo Platinum08:02
Joshier35motherboard08:02
dooglusdjm62: actually - maybe you're right.  maybe it wasn't the kernel sources - maybe it was some other big project that I had built in my home directory.  either way, it really messed things up, so much so that I had to reboot08:02
Joshier35and my graphics card doesn't run properly08:02
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djm62horrible08:02
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SeveasJoshier35, you need the linux-restricted-modules package and xorg-driver-fglrx08:03
Seveasand you need to edit xorg.conf to use fglrx instead of ati08:03
Joshier35Seveas thanks, where can i get that?08:03
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djm62dooglus: mostly I misread it as rm -rf /usr/bin and thought you couldn't really complain about crashing ;)08:03
SeveasJoshier35, with synaptic or apt-get08:03
dooglusdjm62: heh, fair enough.08:03
Joshier35Seveas oh no, you mean i have to edit and (pardon my french ) f*** about with text files?.. thats terrible08:03
LjLJoshier35: well, get used to it :)08:04
SeveasJoshier35, just one word needs to be changed :)08:04
StarKruzrhey guys.  so I have php5 installed and need php4 for some things.  I'm running apache2, but when I apt-get install php4 it wants to install apache 1.3.  how do I fix this dependency thing?08:04
LjLJoshier35: you won't get very far in linux without editing files08:04
djm62it's getting better all the time...08:04
SeveasStarKruzr, libapache2-mod-php408:04
Joshier35LjL i'm not up for shagging with text files, im up for using the computer.08:04
LjLdjm62: yes but still "better" is relative08:05
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StarKruzrSeveas: that's all?!08:05
jnkJoshier35, you have to open one text file and change one word. I C'est pas la mer  boire :)08:05
SeveasStarKruzr, yes08:05
Joshier35to be honest, im highly disapointed in everyone to not support the ati radeon 9800 pro at this stage. i mean, come on.. it's one of the most popular cards out there and you guys still can't sort it out. tut, tut.08:05
StarKruzrSeveas: okay, see, that will apparently remove php5.08:05
regeyashagging with text files....08:05
dooglusjdmpike: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/gam.py is a small python script which will do what you want08:05
LjLJoshier35: in that case, perhaps use windows and wait untill linux distributions get more mature. i can assure you *will have* to edit a text file here and there to use ubuntu, currently08:06
regeyaJoshier35, never had a problem with any operating system whatsoever where you have to deal with doing things by hand08:06
jnkJoshier35, the problem of course is that ATI makes thing quite difficult with their proprietary drivers08:06
LjLJoshier35: what about sending an email to ATI asking why they keep the programming interfaces secret?08:06
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Joshier35jnk fair enough. but i would have thought some group would have made their own drivers for it.08:06
djm62Joshier35: it's not ubuntu's fault... ATI has poor support, because they know fine well any problems will be blamed on the OS08:06
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Hoxzerany ftp client for linux that can login for upto 30 ftp server without making any windows and then allowing user to search files from them08:07
dooglusjdmpike: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/gam.py.txt I mean.  the .py ending made the server think it was a CGI script08:07
mjrJoshier35, such development is in progress, though made slow by lack of information08:07
jnkJoshier35, there are drivers but programmers need time to catch up, and developing optimized drivers for each card is a lot of work08:07
poningruHoxzer: how about the terminal?08:07
mjrJoshier35, see http://r300.sourceforge.net08:07
Linuturkwell, if i ever go to work for ATI, i'll foward those interfaces to the public08:07
regeyaI mean, for example, people I work with are all for making sure things work, but they're upset when I have to do anything manually, because they won't be able to recreate that solution themselves.  do they just say 'oh well, guess we'll have to ditch these OS X boxes and see if we can order some Windows boxes to see if they just work right out of the box...'08:07
Joshier35arn't ATI stupid then?.. why don't they go open source, then everyone ( like linux ) can help fix the bugs08:07
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regeyanope.08:07
LjLLinuturk: useless if you do that without permission from ATI08:07
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LjLJoshier35: ask them, i don't know.08:08
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StarKruzrSeveas: I am, for example, already running a MediaWiki under php5.  if I do this and it uninstalls php5, will it explode when it finds php4?08:08
jnkJoshier35, I don't know for ATI, but nvidia says they have licensing issues with third parties which prevent them from open sourcing their drivers08:08
Seveasyes08:08
djm62Joshier35: they aren't stupid, they're very profitable.  they are under no obligation to support anyone else (what percentage of people choose hardware to be compatible with their OS?)08:08
regeyaJoshier35, also bear in mind that you're installing an *alternative* *operating system* and that sometimes things aren't as easy as point-and-click.08:08
jnkJoshier35, maybe it's the same for ATI08:08
StarKruzrSeveas: it WILL explode?08:08
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learnfromscratchwhat exactly are these ips for ?? can i use them in my /etc/resolv.conf  4.2.2.1 4.2.2.208:08
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jnkanyway wasn't there a package in ubuntu which took care of changing xorg.conf ?08:09
SeveasStarKruzr, no of course not08:09
StarKruzrlearnfromscratch: those are DNS root A servers which are master DNS servers for the internet08:09
jnkI think there was one in warty or hoary...08:09
Joshier35ok, well thanks for your replies people. Random question:: what do you think the best router to get is?.. thanks08:09
StarKruzrSeveas: okay, thanks.08:09
Seveasjnk, no, but X.org is working on easier configuration :)08:09
Joshier35i have a d-link and it is total rubbish.08:09
Tarantulafudgenobody knows how to use keyboard lights?08:09
Joshier35(d-link 504t to be specific)08:09
rosenJoshier35, Cisco08:09
Joshier35rosen i'm not a millionaire08:09
jnkJoshier35, I have a linksys with openwrt... nice but the connection drops sometime08:10
learnfromscratchStarKruzr:  can i put them in /etc/resolv.conf if my ISP's nameserver is not working ??08:10
Linuturki've not had problems with linksys08:10
StarKruzrlearnfromscratch: shouldn't be a problem.  I do it :)08:10
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rosenJoshier35, then arent all expensive .. but for cheaper ones... maybe Extreme .. dunno08:10
Joshier35what model lynksys is best?08:10
Linuturkwrt54G is what I use08:10
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Linuturkthat's a wireless router08:10
Joshier35ok thanks08:10
jnkJoshier35, if you want to hack it, take one with linux on it..08:10
Linuturkand 4 ports08:10
ElitePeteanyone here use vmware and can help me out?08:10
Joshier35i know its a wireless one, but it does have network ports too ive been told08:10
regeyaexample...right now I just downgraded imagemagick, dvdauthor, and mjpegtools by hand, pinning those packages, and am building dvdstyler by hand, all so I can make home movie dvds for parents/in-laws of their grandbaby.  if I was using Windows, I probably would have just dropped by Best Buy and dropped $50-$100 on a consumer-level editing/authoring proggy.  is it worth it?  to me it is.  is it worth the hassle of not being abl08:11
regeyae to buy the latest/greatest hardware, or doing homework to stay away from proprietary hardware that will never be open?  to me it is.08:11
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poningruregeya: whatchu crying aboot?08:11
j--hey guys, Im currently doing an install and am prompted to select a kernel, unfortunately the installer gives no info about the choices.  What are the differences between linux-powerpc & linux-image-powerpc & linux-image-2.6.12-9-powerpc08:12
jnkregeya, there is actually a good free frontend to dvdauthor for windows... too bad it's not available on unix platforms08:12
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ormandjheh, get a mac or use windows if you want ease of use for advanced desktop level stuff (music composition, gfx, movie, 3d, etc)08:12
devsterhas anyone tried compiling Xvnc on 64bit?08:12
ormandjbecause until the big companies who write that software find linux worth porting to, you're SOL08:12
djm62ormandj: yeah, I'll send my chauffeur to pick up a mac tomorrow ;)08:12
Linuturki bet ubuntu could convince them08:13
ormandjdjm62, lol :P08:13
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Linuturkit's a great system08:13
ormandjlinuxturk: evet :)08:13
ormandjbut it'll be a while before mainstream apps are running native08:13
rosenI could convince them08:13
rosenI got a bat !08:13
ElitePeteanyone here use vmware and can help me out?08:13
Linuturkormandj, no "x"08:13
Linuturk:-P08:13
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regeyaponingru, if you're not going to pay attention to the conversation, heh, butt out. :-)08:14
ormandjops :P08:14
ormandj<-- aptal :P08:14
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ormandji should learn to use nick completion08:14
jnkElitePete, maybe you should ask in #vmware08:14
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cartesian1984ElitePete: i did, whats the problem08:14
regeyajnk: yep.  oh, well. :-)08:14
djm62ormandj: some already are...I'm pretty excited about http://www.xaraxtreme.org/08:14
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laforgeanyone who knows another tool instead iconv to convert files to utf8 ? and whole directories ?08:15
ormandjdjm62, i use it, it's nice for vector gfx :)08:15
shadoxhi08:15
ormandjdjm62, but it's not nice for photo editing (it wasn't meant to be)08:15
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dashoffenHi, i  have a exectuable in a folder in my home folder, and i was wondering if i could get it to show up in bash or w/e so that i didnt have to specify the path every time i want to run it08:15
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ormandjdjm62, there is _no_ photoshop alternative right now, and that's unfortunate!08:15
regeyajnk: dvdstyler is also on the windows platform.  seems nice; there were a few issues with getting it working on breezy, though.  nothing big tho08:15
shadoxcan someone help me out? i got a (mayB) stupid question08:15
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djm62ormandj: and there are things like macromedia or adobe testing their products on wine08:15
Kyraldashoffen: move it to ~/bin08:15
mjrlaforge, recode, though won't do dirs08:15
vodnikI tried to install xubuntu on one of my older PCs (300mhz 96MB RAM) (server install and the install xubuntu-desktop), instalation went fine, but when i try xfce4-session, i got this:Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display - i installed neither gdm nor kdm since the PC is really slow and it is optional according to wiki... couldbe this the problem?08:15
Kyraldashoffen: bash looks there IF it exists08:15
Linuturkwhat is the ubuntu equililant to Dreamweaver 8?08:15
jnkormandj, also for audio Ardour is truely great, but it's more professional-oriented than Garageband so it takes some time to learn too08:15
Joshier35I personally do websites ( design ) and have used fireworks in the past. But recently i've noticed how many tihngs i dislike about it. i would be interested in programs for linux for vector stuff08:15
KyralLinuturk: Nvu?08:15
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_jasondashinho, either put it somewhere in your path or add the folder to your path, 'echo $PATH' shows you your current path08:16
rickestormandj: gimp isn't photoshop for sure, but it's not trivial either08:16
StarKruzrwhy is GIMP not a photoshop alternative?08:16
ElitePetecartesian1984, i can't seem to open the ports on my virtual machine for starcraft08:16
ltibor65Guys, can I add to Grub loader an other Linux system in order to start it if I want?08:16
laforgemjr: thx08:16
ormandjjnk: uhm, well, i'm a logic/cubase user, and ardour didn't cut it for me :) http://corenode.com/~ormandj/images/studio08:16
dashoffenKyral, thanks!, but is there a way i could make a link and place that in bin?08:16
Kyral_jason: Actually Bash puts $HOME/bin in the path if it exists08:16
StarKruzrit's not quite as feature-complete as PS but it's still really good.08:16
linkdok, i have a DLink Router and a DSL connection, im having some real trouble with domain name resolution. resolv.conf contains the information for the nameservers that my ISP offers, but im still having problems with linux (windows works fine), im not sure if there is something in the router settings to change. in all truth i dont know what to look for, i wonder if anyone could at least push me in the direction towards fixing this?08:16
StarKruzrof course it suffers from the same usability problems PS does.08:16
shadoxsomeone?08:16
jnkStarKruzr, it doesn't do 16-bit/floating point colors yet (AFAIK)08:16
cartesian1984ElitePete: what guest OS?08:16
_jasonKyral, ah did not know that :)08:16
ElitePetecartesian1984, xp pro sp208:16
regeyaStarKruzr, you can google for that.  There are a number of reasons, most of them related to professional/print work.08:16
ormandjStarKruzr, gimp isn't even close to PS :P08:16
Kyral_jason: Its what I get for being bored and reading the .bashrc :D08:16
rickestnice studio!08:17
regeyaStarKruzr, as with Nvidia drivers, there are also legal issues.08:17
StarKruzrah.08:17
cartesian1984ElitePete: you have bridged networking set up?08:17
_jasonKyral, ha I just opened mine up!08:17
ElitePetecartesian1984, nat networking, i can't get bridged to work08:17
jnkormandj, out of curiosity, what are you missing in ardour?08:17
regeyaRGB->CMYK is a major "intellectual property" can of worms08:17
cdubyalinkd, wired or wireless08:17
rickestlinkd: is your computer getting DHCP IP from router?08:17
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ElitePetecartesian1984, i have edited the nat.conf file but people still can't join my games08:17
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renatosanseverohi08:17
shadoxcan someone tell me how to get access to my windows files?08:17
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Seveasshadox, boot into windows08:18
anthonyhello, im trying to play .wma files in ubuntu (xmms) can someone tell me how to do this please08:18
djm62how much complexity can RGB->CMYK possible have?08:18
linkdcdubya: wired. rickest: yea its in DHCP, i obviously can access the internet (im using it now) but for some reason DNS resolution fails08:18
regeyagimp is great for doing web work, prepping pics for doing prints at home, that sort of thing.08:18
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StarKruzrw00t08:18
jnkanthony, if they have DRM you can't08:18
cartesian1984ElitePete: its going to be hard without bridged networking, i didn't think 3D acceleration worked in vmware anyway, so i never really gamed08:18
eobanbshadox, read the faq08:18
dashoffenshadox, simply put a line in the fstab to mount your windows drive08:18
cdubyashadox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:18
regeyadjm62: that sort of question tells me you've never done prepress work ;-)08:18
shadoxi did08:18
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ElitePetecartesian1984, can you help me setup bridged then?08:18
StarKruzrahahahahaha08:18
shadoxi just don't get it08:18
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ElitePetecartesian1984, sc runs fine, just people can't connect to my game.08:18
eobanbwhat dont you get, Shadowline08:18
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StarKruzrdjm62: work for a photo company for a year and get back to me :)08:19
eobanbshadox08:19
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rickestlinkd: is your router getting DHCP from your ISP or is the WAN config static?08:19
eobanbdamn tab completion :)08:19
djm62I thought they were two different ways of representing pixel colours...08:19
cartesian1984ElitePete: it been a while, ask in #vmware, ill try and find you an FAQ08:19
linkdrickest: im not sure, how would i find out?08:19
ElitePetecartesian1984, they all afk in #vmware08:19
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cartesian1984ElitePete: ah. a shame. I'll look into it then08:20
shadoxyes?08:20
cdubyashadox, what don't you understand08:20
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anthonyDRM?08:20
anthonywhat do you mean?08:20
cdubyadigital rights management?08:20
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jnkyeah08:20
rickestlinkd: you could look in your router config.  but basically, I think the answer is if your machine is doing DHCP you shouldn't have anything in resolv.conf08:21
eobanbshadox, what do you not understand about mounting windows partitions08:21
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shadoxthe talk about /dev/dhal08:21
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ltibor65Seveas, what means the green circle in front of your name?08:21
Razor-Xb08:21
DellHey People08:21
Hoxzersomebody here has jubler?08:21
ElitePetemeans he is ops.08:21
linkdrickest: hmm, well how would i fix this?08:21
eobanbshadox, you dont need to do that, you can use the script08:21
cdubyaItibor65, a moderator?08:21
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Seveaswhich green circle?08:21
ormandjjnk: the worst issue was lack of sequencer :P08:21
eobanbshadox, did the script work for you?08:22
ormandjjnk: that's a pretty big "oops, can't use it" type thing :P08:22
cartesian1984ElitePete: what was the problem with bridged networking?08:22
ElitePetecartesian1984, it just doesn't let my virtual machine online..08:22
ltibor65Seveas, it is not more.08:22
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linkdrickest: how would the box know that the route provides DNS resolution forwarding without it being told in resolv.conf08:22
rickestlinkd: backup resolv.conf, then empty it, then /etc/init.d/network restart08:22
shadoxi skipped it, because it was said you can mount windows in only 2 lines in the terminal window08:23
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StarKruzrcan anyone who has installed phpbb2 via apt-get tell me where the hell it put my forum files?08:23
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linkdrickest: ok ill give that a shot08:23
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ormandjjnk: the other issue was no plugin support for commercial plugins, of which i have thousands, and didn't see any OSS replacements that were comparible for :)08:23
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Seveasltibor65, are you sure?08:23
regeyadjm62: on a very basic level, it's *not* that big a deal converting from RGB->CMYK.  In essence you essentially mimic doing separations using red, green, blue, and yellow filters.  in practice proggys like photoshop give you options on the amount of black ink, the level of colored inks, replacement with black ink and how heavy to do that, etc.  you can google for the info if you're interested...personally, I have to go burn s08:23
regeyaome brush. :-)08:23
rickestlinkd: I think DHCP should take care of it for you08:23
rickestdynamically08:23
eobanbshadox: ...08:23
ormandjjnk: other than that, it was nifty as a toy :P08:23
iapx8088hi all. anyhone know a way to bipass rivafb check in linux-restricted source?08:23
cartesian1984ElitePete: strange. I wonder if the new version of Xen or Bochs can run windows. vmware was just too much of a hassle for me08:23
ltibor65Seveas, operator?08:23
shadoxit should be something lik: sudo mkdir media/windows08:24
Seveasltibor65, yup08:24
jnkormandj, you're recording from MIDI? Well you could use any decent linux sequencer and link it to ardour through jack...08:24
shadoxand then followed by another line08:24
iapx8088I'm trying to compile my nvidia drivers from the source but got that error, with the ubuntu stock kernel08:24
ElitePetecartesian1984, all i want is to be able to host sc games :-)08:24
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eobanbshadox that will mount it just once, but it wont edit anything in fstab so it wont persist after reboot...just run the script and it will set up fstab for you08:24
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Seveasiapx8088, why do you think it performs the check?08:24
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Seveasnot because you should skip it08:25
jnkormandj, ardour supports VSTs08:25
shadoxok08:25
ormandjjnk: i could deal with the lack of plugin support (which i can understand), but i need a sequencer. as for decent linux sequencer, i've never found one. and yes, i do lots of midi. i do live recording into samples, mix those in, but i also do drum programming/synths/etc, and i need midi sequencing for those (i make a lot of diff kinds of music)08:25
shadoxwill do, thnQ08:25
jnkormandj, (and the sequencer should appear in a future version)08:25
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ormandjjnk: i couldn't get it to work with my plugins :) could have been an error on my part. regardless, i didn't really care too much about that :) the sequencer is what killed me08:25
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ltibor65ubotu, how automatically mount the floppy?08:26
ubotultibor65: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:26
jnkormandj, well you may want to try again in, say, one year :)08:26
ormandjjnk: for instance, i can't play drums at 400 bpm :P but i sure as hell have them going 400bpm in half my songs. nor do i have 18 arms, which you'd need to play the stuff i program :P08:26
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tomhow can i make the workspace switcher to show all workspaces? the option is greyed out: http://eggdrop.ch/workspace_switcher_preferences.png08:26
ormandjjnk: in a year, i hope they've made it portable to things other than linux, and i just might then :P08:26
ormandjit'd sure be nice to leave 1grand in my pocket every year + who knows how much countless money in plugins08:27
ninnghizidhaHello! I'm looking for the command to enter the single user mode ....08:27
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linkdrickest: ok that didnt really work, it just recreated resolv.conf with my routers IP set as the nameserver and when trying to host <dns> i get some ips which are correct, and then ";; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet."2 and ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached" any other program other than host just says hostname resolution failure and doesnt connect because of this08:27
jnkormandj, you mean that once ardour suits your need you'd use it under windows or what?08:27
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shadoxthink it worked08:28
jnkninnghizidha, shutdown now08:28
ltibor65ubotu, fun away, I need help to mount floppy.08:28
ubotultibor65: I give up, what is it?08:28
yozguys... got a question concerning breezy. it seems like I have a sound issue. my sound actually works fine but I can't adjust it nor set it mute. anyone a suggestion?08:28
ormandjjnk: fbsd preferably. or maybe some alternative os. :)08:28
jnkormandj, oh ok :)08:28
ninnghizidhabut .. i dont want to reboot - i just want to be shure there is just one process running.08:28
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djk_how do i rename files with mv? mv *.snd *.SND /target/directory ?08:28
ormandjjnk: i just think it should be portable. i don't want to HAVE to run it on linux. that's no worse than lockin on windows.08:28
StarKruzrcan anyone who has installed phpbb2 via apt-get tell me where the hell it put my forum files?08:29
_jasondjk_, use rename08:29
ormandjjnk: and i hate being stuck on windows right now :P08:29
iapx8088Seveas, it bails out!08:29
jnkninnghizidha, shutdown doesn't reboot08:29
shadoxit worked for me08:29
shadoxthnQ !!08:29
Hoxzer:D jubler is fucking killing08:29
Hoxzerme08:29
LiGhTeRsomeone knows how to get access to an ntfs disk in ubuntu??08:29
jnkninnghizidha, (unless you give the -r option)08:29
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ninnghizidhaok, thanks a lot, jnk .. i'll try it :-)08:29
ninnghizidhaok! :-)08:29
djk__jason: i don't really understand the syntax of rename :-/08:29
Hoxzerlike I dunno do I need to install it or just run08:29
djm62ninnghizidha: sudo telinit 1 ?08:29
Hoxzerbut I dunno how to run it08:29
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ninnghizidhaTHAT it!08:29
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ninnghizidhathats the command i was looking for, djm62 - thanks a lot08:30
_jasondjk_, you could probably use a for loop too08:30
JDahlLiGhTeR, you cannot write to NTFS partitions, but mounting them as readonly partitions is quite easy, just google for "ntfs fstab"08:30
djm62ormandj: what do you think of the jack stuff?08:30
jnkormandj, it's good to have portable software, but still I'd rather be locked to a free OS than a proprietary one (all else being equal)08:30
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LiGhTeRi dont want to write to it i just want to read o it =)08:30
LiGhTeRok08:30
ormandjdjm62, it worked on linux. it didn't support any of my cool gear, but it supported the basic stuff08:30
djk__jason: how would that look like?08:30
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B1zzhow about backwards?08:31
B1zzhow you read linux partion in win?08:31
_jasondjk_, example: for i in *; do echo $i; done08:31
djm62ormandj: I meant in terms of making it easier to write cool apps (reason piece by piece, that sort of thing)08:31
jnkB1zz, I once used a tool, explore2fs I think it was08:31
ormandjdjm62, well, if jack was portable, it'd be quite nice :)08:31
ormandjbut it's not.08:32
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jnkB1zz, but it won't read reiserfs or other exotic filesystems08:32
iapx8088Seveas, are you there08:32
eobanb(reiser is 'exotic'?)08:32
jnkormandj, well jack (and ardour btw) run with OS X08:32
ormandjjnk: by exotic, and reiser, you meant crash prone? :P08:32
_ec15.4 wxga 1280*800 horizontal and vertical frequencies?08:32
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ormandjjnk: i know :) but i might as well run logic if i'm running osx :P08:32
ormandj(and i do)08:33
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B1zzwill jnk thanx!08:33
ormandj_ec, depends on the lcd08:33
jnkeobanb, compared to ext2/ext3? I think so...08:33
Hoxzerhow do I compile .tar.gz2 files?08:33
eobanblol.08:33
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_ecwhat else should i and you know?08:33
ormandjHoxzer, you mean create? tar -cvvfz maybe?08:33
_jasonubotu, tell Hoxzer about compile08:33
jnkHoxzer, so you download source code in a tar.gz or tar.bz2 file right?08:33
yozhmm anyone an idea concerning my sound issue?08:33
eobanbHoxzer, let's back up a bit..08:33
ztreckhi, i have a problem installing apache webserver 2.2.0. I extracted it and typed: ./configure when i do that i get an error message: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH08:33
ztreck   i don't really understand it and know how to fix it, so i thought you guys would be able to help me08:33
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ormandjhoxzer: man tar; man bzip208:33
Hoxzer:D08:33
ormandjztreck, install gcc08:34
eobanbztreck you need gcc08:34
HoxzerI know howto extract it08:34
Seveasztreck, delete what you downloaded and install apache2 with synaptic08:34
Hoxzerbut Now I have the folder08:34
_ecorman,what else should i and you know?08:34
Hoxzerand make08:34
eobanbHoxzer, what are you trying to compile08:34
Hoxzermake configure08:34
Hoxzerdoesn't work08:34
ztreckok, can i get it by typing apt-get install gcc?08:34
eobanbztreck, yes08:34
Hoxzereoband: jubler08:34
ormandj_ec, you need to find the lcd you have, and lookup the horizontal/vert refresh rates yourself08:34
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ztreckok, thank you08:34
Seveasztreck, yes, but do not do that08:34
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ztreck?08:34
Seveassimply install apache with synaptic or apt-get08:34
cor1yah well another failure08:34
eobanbHoxzer, i dont know what that is08:34
_eci have no information08:34
navaroneztreck> you can install pache without having to compile yourself08:34
eobanbit's not in the repository08:35
eobanb?08:35
cor1yso how do I complie the wxwidgets plugin in videloan?08:35
ztreckok, i'll try that then08:35
Hoxzerit has readme but all it says that is that you can run it with command "java -jar Jubler.jar" but folder seems to have no "jubler.jar"08:35
jnkHoxzer, you should really read the README and INSTALL files if they exist08:35
ormandj_ec: then you're screwed. you need to find out the model of the lcd and get the information08:35
ElitePeteanyone here run broodwar on wine? if so do you get the battle.net crash also?08:35
_ecits a notebook monitor08:35
SAM_themanit worked!!!!!!08:35
Hoxzerit is java software08:35
eobanbi've run the original starcraft with wine very very well...never tried brood war..08:35
SAM_themani am on xchat under ubuntu now08:35
Hoxzerfor subtitle editing08:35
ormandj_ec, then go lookup the notebook specifications08:35
SeveasSAM_theman, cool :)08:35
iapx8088mmh it's very strange a source package that fails with the ubuntu stock kernel...08:36
navaroneHoxzer, I assume you have java installed?08:36
cartesian1984ElitePete: theres an emulator created solely for the purpose of running windows under linux, its called Win4Lin. I advise you to obtain a copy, its supposed to be substantially better than vmware08:36
djk__jason: didn't work, probably because i failed.08:36
_eci did it,but there wasnt info about hor ver frequencies,08:36
ormandj_ec: then you didn't look in the right places. go use google08:36
eobanbcartesian1984, he wasnt using vmware, he was using wine...08:36
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ElitePeteOk cartesian.08:37
_jasondjk_, did you see how the for loop worked with echo?08:37
SAM_themani had sonmthing wrong08:37
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jnkHoxzer, I suspect you've downloaded the source code, and this readme file is for the binary ("compiled") version08:37
cartesian1984eobanb: we cad an earlier discussion about vmware, you see08:37
djk__jason: yea.08:37
_eci googled it, for 3-4 days i am searching:(08:37
jenda_busyHow do you make mplayer stretch videos to fullscreen?08:37
SAM_themanok guys io have a boo boo08:37
jnkjenda_busy, try the option: -vo xv08:37
corresponderhi08:37
djm62jenda_busy: F, but you have to use a visual that supports it08:37
corresponderhow to change the firstuser in ubuntu?08:37
ormandj_ec, well, i have to go now, i'm sorry08:37
ormandj_ec good luck08:37
eobanbSAM_theman, why dont you actually explain what it is then08:37
jnkjenda_busy, you can use -zoom but it's quite slow08:37
_ecok,thanks.08:37
navarone_ec, what are you trying to find out?08:37
_jasondjk_, so what did you try?08:37
ElitePeteanyone here run broodwar on wine? if so do you get the battle.net crash also?08:38
SAM_themanhold on08:38
SAM_themanok here it is08:38
jenda_busydjm62: visual?08:38
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jnkcorresponder, you want another user with the same rights as the first one that's it?08:38
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djm62jenda_busy: the -vo option (or equivalent in preferences)08:38
_ecnavarone,hor and ver frequencies for my 15.4 wxga mon.08:38
mayaquit08:38
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navarone_ec, what brand laptop?08:38
jeroenvrphi folks08:38
jeroenvrpquick quistion!?08:39
eobanbjeroenvrp, what is it08:39
jeroenvrphow do I disable my networkcard?08:39
djk__jason: i don't save history in the konsole :-/08:39
_ecasus08:39
corresponderjnk: i want to delete the existing "firstuser" and make a new08:39
cmathesonjenda_busy: ifdown eth008:39
SAM_themanevery time i try to play a game any game like Et,aa or even frozen bubles it won't work.I tried your wiki sites and ubuntu forums and still nothing its really pissing me off becuase i need to use Teamspeak to talk to my frineds (i have a project) and it won't work.Only sound effects and movies and music work08:39
Seveasjeroenvrp, ifdown eth008:39
paulproteus|laptjeroenvrp: System -> Administration -> Networking08:39
paulproteus|laptClick the card, then click disable. :)08:39
eobanb...assuming eth0 is the network interface08:39
jeroenvrpsorry, at bootlevel08:39
jeroenvrp?08:39
_ecbefore i come to ask here, i searched a lot, but found nothing:(08:39
Seveasjeroenvrp, remove 'auto eth008:39
paulproteus|laptjeroenvrp: In System -> Administration -> Networking , you can uncheck the box for "Enable at startup".08:39
SAM_themanand its really pissing me off08:40
jnkcorresponder, well first make a new one, and put it in all groups were the first one is (use "groups oldusername", and "adduser newusername groupname") then delete the old one08:40
Seveasfrom /etc/network/interfaces08:40
jeroenvrpsorry I dont have gnome08:40
ztreckhow can i get apache web server with apt-get?08:40
paulproteus|laptjeroenvrp: Then edit /etc/network/interfaces like Seveas said.08:40
corresponderthanx08:40
_jasondjk_, it should work, you probably just have syntax wrong somewhere... you're trying to rename several files right?  just take the time to read the man to rename and read man perlrequick too08:40
Seveasztreck, apt-get install apache208:40
jeroenvrpSeveas: ok, I try that08:40
ztreckok, thanks08:40
jenda_busycmatheson:what does that have to do with it?08:40
djk__jason: yea08:40
paulproteus|laptztreck: Try searching next time: apt-cache search apache08:40
eobanbor see packages.ubuntu.com08:40
ProN00bi want to delete all files beginning with --- "rm -rf ---*" doesn't work08:41
SeveasProN00b, rm -rf -- ---*08:41
jeroenvrpSeveas: auto eth0 is not there08:41
ztrecki tryed to search at apt-get.org but i didn't find anything that looked to be the webserver08:41
jeroenvrpSeveas: only auto lo08:41
cmathesonjenda_busy: sorry it was the wrong nick mwahahahaha08:41
jenda_busycmatheson: OK :)08:41
TarantulafudgeHey guys, I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to use Extra Keyboard LED's. You can find an Image of my keyboard @ http://heifer.ath.cx/000_0035.JPG At the top right of the keyboard next to the word "Messages". How do I use this light for general purposes in linux?08:41
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jeroenvrpSeveas: I have 'map eth0' in there08:42
ElitePeteanyone here run broodwar on wine? if so do you get the battle.net crash also?08:42
cmathesonjenda_busy: i'm a little too zealous w/ my tab-completion08:42
jnkcorresponder, (use "deluser" to remove the old user)08:42
corresponderjnk: how to give the new user all the groups?08:42
eobanbztreck, do not use apt-get.org packages08:42
Seveasjeroenvrp, then it's not enabled on boot08:42
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corresponderah ,k08:42
jeroenvrpSeveas: yes it is08:42
correspondercause my "new" user exists at all08:42
eobanbElitePete, can you stop asking that08:42
ElitePeteno..08:42
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eobanbtry in #wine or something08:42
Seveasjeroenvrp, then you installed some weird package - which one?08:42
jenda_busycmatheson: Happens all the time :D08:43
renatosanseverohow may I get php 5 in ubuntu?08:43
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EasterSunshinewhen i add the line Virtual 2048 1536 i get big errors with the screen not refreshing until i move my mouse there. anyone know why?08:43
SAM_themanhere we go take a look at this http://pastebin.com/46815508:43
EasterSunshineto xorg.conf, that is08:43
chapiumcan ubuntu be installed without a cdrom08:43
jnkcorresponder, but first you must create a new user right08:43
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jeroenvrpSeveas: actually deactivating DHCP will also be OK08:43
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Seveasjeroenvrp, first explain how you activated it08:44
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ztreckwhen i install apache by typing "apt-get install apache2" where in my file system can i find it?08:44
paulproteus|laptztreck: dpkg -S apache208:44
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luciano_hi, I'm new to Ubuntu, can anyone help me?08:44
paulproteus|laptdpkg -L apache2 , I mean.08:44
eobanbztreck, apt will set up apache to start at boot08:44
_jasonluciano_, just ask08:44
ztreckok08:44
corresponderso i have to delte the existing one?08:44
Seveastell luciano_ about anyone08:44
ztreckbut where is the httpd config file08:44
paulproteus|lapt!tell paulproteus|lapt about anyoone08:44
renatosansevero/say $ip08:44
corresponderthe superuser should have the name which one user already has08:44
Seveasztreck, /etc/apache208:45
ztreckok08:45
jeroenvrpSeveas: my network is started at boot up08:45
_ecasus a6vc with 15.4 wxga 1280*800 res, normally works @ 60hz on windoze.what should be horizontal and vertical frequencies to configure the monitor for linux.08:45
paulproteus|lapt_ec: Automatic should figure it out okay....08:45
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luciano_I've installed Ubuntu 5.10 but it didn't asked me for a root password, only created a user, and now I don't know how to become root08:45
ilba7r!thinkpad08:45
ubotuilba7r: I don't know08:45
ilba7r!info thinkpad08:45
_ecit didnt.:(08:45
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_jasonubotu, tell luciano_  about root08:45
jnkcorresponder, let's say your first user is Alice, and you already have Bob and you want to delete Alice, and make Bob the "first user" ok? (if Bob doesn't exist, just do: adduser Bob)08:45
rickestluciano_: search ubuntu's wiki for 'sudo'08:45
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jenda_busydjm62: thanks - helped :)08:45
corresponderk08:46
StarKruzrcan anyone who has installed phpbb2 via apt-get tell me where the hell it put my forum files?08:46
corresponderhe exists08:46
paulproteus|laptStarKruzr: dpkg -L {packagename}08:46
corresponderso i have to modificate him08:46
StarKruzrpaulproteus|lapt: thank you.08:46
chapiumCan ubuntu be installed without a cdrom?08:46
okihHow can I access windows files over the network? I can see the computers, but the protected folders ask for a username, domain, and password. On windows I only need to supply a password.08:46
Seveaschapium, yes, via the network08:46
chapiumhow?08:46
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luciano_are you saying that you cannot login as root?08:47
jnkcorresponder, then you'd type "groups Alice" to see what groups you need to add to Bob. See "man groups". Then you must add Bob to those groups with the adduser command. See "man adduser". You can do something nasty like: "for i in `groups Alice`; do adduser Bob $i; done"08:47
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cmathesonokih: that's because you're already logged into your computer w/ your username/domain08:47
Seveasokih, username: the username on the win machine, domain: the workgroup of the win machine08:47
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cmathesonokih: it's just what you would usually use for that08:47
chapiumi saw one howto on ubuntu's website, but it was an extremely specific case08:47
Seveasluciano_, indeed and that is a good thing08:47
corresponderk08:47
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okihOk, I'll try it.08:47
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Seveas!tell luciano_ about root08:47
skynetproHi08:47
ztrecki can't find my document root in httpd.config, anyone that can tell me where it is?08:47
Seveasluciano_, read what ubotu sent you08:47
skynetproCan anybody help me? I have one big broblem with ubuntu 5.1008:47
paulproteus|lapt!tell skynetpro about anyone08:48
Seveasztreck, read some documentation, we;re not here to answer all such simple questions that can be found in the basic docs08:48
EasterSunshineanyone has experience with virtual resolutions in xorg?08:48
paulproteus|laptztreck: For Apache2, look through conf.d and sites.d08:48
SAM_themanGdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library08:48
SAM_theman ?08:48
jnk!tell jnk about anyone08:48
jeroenvrpok I disabled dhcp and now the system is booting up in one run08:48
ztreckwell, thanks for all the help08:48
skynetproThe "ghemical" package in the multiverse is broken: it crash with runtime error!08:48
Hoxzerwhat player can show me time as frames?08:48
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okihSorry, I'm still sort of lost. Which username?08:48
luciano_Ok, then. Thanks a lot. I'm used to have a root account. I've been using Debian08:48
cmathesonokih: just your windows username08:48
Seveasskynetpro, file a bug in malone08:48
luciano_So, what happend if I try to do "su" ?08:49
okihI have multiple user accounts though.08:49
cmathesonluciano_: won't work if you don't have root08:49
cartesian1984you know, Hilter logged in as root08:49
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cmathesonokih: pick one08:49
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_jasonluciano_,  "authentication failure"08:49
okihAnd I use the password for that user's login?08:49
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cmathesonokih: it's logging you into the windows network it's just as if you were logging into a windoze box normally08:49
jnkSAM_theman, what's your locale? (it's not a big problem anyway)08:49
skynetproSeveas: and what can i do?08:49
okihOk08:49
SAM_themano08:49
SAM_themanok08:49
Seveasskynetpro, file a bug in malone08:50
maihemluciano_: do `sudo -i` for `su - root` or `sudo bash` for approximately `su root`08:50
SAM_themani was just installing Tc-Elite a mod for ET08:50
Seveasmaihem, sudo -s, not sudo bash08:50
maihemokay, sudo bash works here08:50
Seveasmaihem, sudo -s is shorter :)08:50
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maihemoh yeah, heh, I suppose it guarantees you get that root's chosen shell too08:51
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jnkmaihem, there's "sudo -s" actually08:51
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Seveasthat, and if people get funky with /etc/sudoers sudo -s may work and sudo bash not08:51
jnk(basically the same)08:51
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renatosanseverohow do i see my own ip address ? I tried with "ifconfig" but it only show network ip and not the external one.08:51
Seveasrenatosansevero, ww.whatismyip.com08:51
cmathesonrenatosansevero: www.whatismyip.org08:51
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luciano_Ok. Thanks a lot everyone. It's the first time a ask on a channel and someone answer so quickly and gently. Thanks. Bye08:52
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rickestrenatosansevero: http://whatismyip.org08:52
renatosanseverothanks all08:52
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DJLinXhello when ppl go to my apache server it brings up my routers page... if i set up a proxy server with my isp with this make it so it can get thru to my comp08:52
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renatosanseveroare there other way to discover? i mean...without you find it by internet ?08:52
Seveasno08:52
jnkDJLinX, you should configure your router to forward port 80 to your computer08:53
Rawplayerlol08:53
djm62renatosansevero: if you log into another server, you can find out what IP you came from08:53
okihStill not working. I entered my username and password that I use on windows and I cannot log in.08:53
cmathesonrenatosansevero: you could just `wget http://www.whatismyip.org` if you don't want to fire up a browser (and then make a script to email it to you periodically or put it in afile or whatever)08:53
DJLinXjnk alright i was hopin i wouldn't have to do that tho08:53
eobanb....08:54
djm62cmatheson: good call!08:54
renatosanseverothanks08:54
cmathesondjm62: :)08:54
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maihemIs it possible to make the bot here look for the word 'su' and if it has been, say, five minutes since su was last seen, tell the speaker about su? That would save a lot of time on what i'd imagine is a very common discussion08:54
jnkmaihem, you can configure your irc client to do that08:55
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Seveasmaihem, but if you do that, rest assured that you are promptly kicked08:55
jnkmaihem, ah you mean tell the one who asked08:55
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jnkmaihem, yeah bad idea08:56
Seveas!help08:56
jesseman_cmatheson: that is awesome for ip. you can even 'cat index.html' after the download to see the IP in terminal08:56
maihembut I wouldn't want to cause flamage... yeah, I'd be kicked08:56
eobanbi see maihem's point....be a nice mechanism for ubotu08:56
Seveas!seen cafuego08:56
Bateau_hey! i just mounted a .img file. how can i play it like it was a DVD?08:56
ubotucafuego <n=cafuego@bright.livelamp.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 22h 26m 39s ago, saying: 'gnome-session'.08:56
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eobanbas in, if no one else answers the question, ubotu does the best it can08:57
cmathesonjesseman_: yeah, it works pretty good... i had a cronjob for a long time that would check every hour and if the ip had changed it would mail it to me gmail account... it worked pretty good08:57
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_jasoneobanb, how would you differentiate a new user asking about sudo from someone having other problems with sudo08:57
eobanbi dont know :P i'm not the one that thought of the idea08:58
navarone_jason I would think I person having problems would explain the situation clearly08:58
maihemnavarone, he means how do you get a bot to tell what the problem is08:58
_jasonnavarone, yeah but you would have to get ubotu to understand the differences08:58
eobanbno, as in, how would ubotu distinguish08:58
chapiumhmm, i think it might be easier for me to go buy a new cdrom/rw instead of doing a net install08:59
Bateau_i just mounted a .img file. how can i play it like it was a DVD?08:59
eobanbright.08:59
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navarone_jason...okay...didn't ralize you were talking about bot responses08:59
jnkBateau_, tell your player to play the mount location08:59
eobanbBateau_, open the video_ts folder in your player of choicec08:59
rickestbecause someone unfamiliar with sudo will keep asking about root.  someone with sudo problems will keep asking about sudo?08:59
Bateau_what player is best?08:59
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_jasonBateau_, the one that works for you... I like mplayer08:59
SAM_themanlol08:59
eobanbi like vlc, but totem, xine, etc will work too if you have libdvdcss or whatever it is08:59
maihemmaybe if you look for a person mentioning su and root within a few minutes of each other?08:59
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chapiumBateau_, Xine is good to, as is VLC... experiment a littlle09:00
renatosanseveroare there a way to kill a process in /usr/local/bin ?09:00
Delvienwhat is the command in terminal to get nautilus to open up on a specific FOLDER?09:00
jnkyeah xine is find for DVDs09:00
eobanbrenatosansevero, with kill or killall09:00
maihemsure you'd get some false positives and some false negatives, but how much of the time?09:00
eobanbnautilus /path/09:00
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renatosanseverokill and killall  doesn't work09:01
Jell-O-Fishihi people09:01
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eobanbrenatosansevero, what's the error?09:01
renatosanseverobut my process is still crashed09:01
djm62renatosansevero: kill -9 ?09:01
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_jasonrenatosansevero, what are you trying to kill09:01
djm62after kill -9 I'm lost09:01
renatosanseveroamsn09:01
eobanbif it's an suid 0 process you need sudo09:01
eobanboh09:01
goyo1hola09:01
eobanbwhat's the process ID?09:01
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renatosanseverorenato    8052  2.4  4.2  34420 21880 ?        Sl   17:10   1:15 wish /usr/local/bin/amsn09:01
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eobanbkill 805209:02
_jasonrenatosansevero, yeah try kill -9 as someone suggested09:02
renatosanseveroeobanb thanks :)09:02
renatosanseveroeobanb it worked fine09:02
Delvienwhat is the command in terminal to get nautilus to open up on a specific FOLDER?09:02
renatosansevero: )09:02
Bateau_chapium: it doesent work :( "error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"09:02
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SAM_themanXlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".09:02
SeveasDelvien, someone just answered that09:03
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okihI'm trying to gain access to files over my windows network. When I try to open a folder, I am prompted for a Username, Domain, and Password. I give a username and password found on the machine running windows. I enter the correct domain. I cannot gain access though. When accessing the folders from another windows machine I need to give another sharing password. Do I need to install something special so I can access the files on my windows net09:03
okihwork from linux?09:03
DelvienSeveas ah sorry , didnt see it09:03
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SAM_themanopen /dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory09:04
SAM_themanXlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".09:04
SAM_theman ?09:04
flodineive been asking for sometime now how to get artwiz font working in breezy what gives they work perfect in hoary.HELP09:04
SAM_themanwhats going on?09:04
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SAM_themani went here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=teamspeak no luck09:04
DelvienSeveas im trying to use STARTERBAR with gdesklets to open up nautilus to my mounted HDD, but it wont work,09:04
djm62SAM_theman: you're missing some proprietary/nonstandard bit of X (possibly nonfree/nvidia only)09:04
SAM_themani went here 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83028&page=2 no luck09:04
oumarsalut09:05
flodineall you smart guys no one can help with fonts wow09:05
Delvienseveas any idea?09:05
renatosanseverohey people.. i got my own IP in that page http://whatismyip.org/  ...after this, i tried to use a command with NMAP and it says "the host seens to be down"09:06
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SeveasDelvien, nautilus --no-desktop /path/09:06
SAM_themanwait did you open your ports?09:06
SeveasDelvien, or simply: /path/09:06
djm62renatosansevero: you're not responding to ping09:06
rickestrenatosansevero: your router is probably blocking everything nmap is looking for (which means it's probably working correctly)09:06
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DelvienSeveas what can i identify it as ? application?09:06
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chapiumBateau_, ?09:07
chapiumBateau_, xine?09:07
SAM_themanMail man's here09:07
Bateau_i got the error trying to play one of the vob files. in mplayer09:07
_jasonflodine, search the forums.  I setup artwiz the otherday after flodine you could try searching a little first :)  I did this yesterday but it messed up my firefox fonts, maybe you'll have better luck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75083&highlight=artwiz+font09:07
Delvienseveas nm i got it , thanks bro09:07
renatosanseverorickest  how can I set my router to allow NMAP09:07
jnkrenatosansevero, you can use the -P0 option with nmap09:07
_jasonflodine, ignore my lack of backspacing and read the link lol09:07
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jnkrenatosansevero, by default nmap won't scan hosts that don't respond to ping09:08
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renatosanseverook09:08
mp3guyjava -version throws up gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9), how do i change it to j2re1.5?09:08
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_jasonubotu, tell mp3guy about multijava09:08
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renatosanseverobut now.. how can i start a connection with SSH without respond to requests09:08
flodine_jason are you on gnome09:08
_jasonflodine, yes09:09
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jnkrenatosansevero, but keep in mind that if there's a firewall between the computer and the scanner, the scanner will actually scan the firewall (and only see the computer where the firewall redirects to the computer)09:09
mp3guythanks _jason09:09
jnkrenatosansevero, what do you mean respond to requests?09:09
flodine_jason ok im not they wont work with aterm or eterm09:09
ubuntuhey all I got ubuntu running on a p3 450 MGhz and 384 mb sd ram :) with no harddrive using live cd of 5.10 lol09:09
djm62renatosansevero: you need to use port forwarding09:09
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renatosanseverojnk I have a router modem here...09:10
renatosanseverodjm62 how so?09:10
_jasonflodine, I don't know, they were giving me too much problems to tell you the truth so I just removed them09:10
jnkrenatosansevero, you need to forward port 22 to your computer09:10
SAM_themanback09:10
renatosanseveroit's already opened09:10
SAM_themanjunk mail09:10
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flodine_jason ok thxs09:11
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jnkrenatosansevero, does your router forward the port to your computer?09:11
renatosanseverojnk it's working fine with localhost on port 2209:11
jenda_busyOne more prob with mplayer: It says New_Face failed... and something about a font every time I resize or start playback09:11
Bateau_chapium: i just got it working, somewhat. in totem and xine, i got sound. but not picture.09:11
renatosanseverojnk : i don't know.. how can i know that?09:11
coldhmm anyone know how to disable ubuntu random stack?09:11
djm62renatosansevero: you need to tell the router that any requests for port 22 get forwarded to to your internal IP09:11
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_jasonjenda_busy, did you install mplayer-fonts09:11
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jnkrenatosansevero, check the router configuration.. or try to connect by ssh from outside your local network09:11
SAM_themanrenatosanservo can i pm u?09:12
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renatosanseverodjm62 ok. i got. i'll check it ..09:12
jenda_busy_jason: Now I did... thx09:12
renatosanseveroSAM_theman   ????09:12
renatosanseveroSAM_theman   pm ????09:12
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jnkjust do it09:13
SAM_themanpm=Private Message09:13
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SAM_themanYes Or No09:13
renatosanseveroyes09:13
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B1zzhow can i get ubuntu to load my wireless card at startup? everytime i reboot i have to modprobe ndiswrapper09:14
jnkB1zz, add the module name to /etc/modules09:14
djm62B1zz: add ndiwrapper to /etc/modules09:14
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rickestmodules.conf?09:14
SAM_themanumm...guys09:14
SAM_theman/dev/dsp: Input/output error09:14
SAM_themanubotu: tell SAM_theman alsa09:15
rickest!alsa09:15
ubotumethinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:15
SAM_themanubotu: tell SAM_theman how to fix this problem /dev/dsp: Input/output error09:15
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SAM_themanthis better work09:16
SAM_themanand thats a threat :D09:16
SAM_themanj/k09:16
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jahshuai just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?09:17
Bateau_xine says something about dvd:/. where can i find this dir? so that i can mount a .img file to it.09:17
_jasonubotu, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:17
ubotu...but alsa is already something else...09:17
_jasonubotu, no alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:17
ubotuokay, _jason09:17
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MadeyeHow's dapper now? is it stable in term of development stability ?09:18
jenda_busy_jason: use /msg ubotu :)09:18
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SAM_themanbrb ok it says i have to restart09:19
_jasonjenda_busy, :)09:19
renatosanseverojnk : I found here, IP routing TABLE09:20
renatosanseverojnk : The information it shows Destination09:20
renatosansevero09:20
renatosanseveroLabel09:20
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renatosanseveroIntf09:20
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renatosanseveroMetric09:20
_jasonrenatosansevero, use pastebin09:20
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renatosansevero_jason how do I use this?09:21
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_jason!pastebin09:22
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:22
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renatosansevero!pastebin09:22
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nunuxhi everyone09:22
nunuxi'm noob on ubuntu09:22
_jasonrenatosansevero, just go to that site, paste what you want and then just paste the URL here09:22
boldstrikequestion: how can i configure my pppoe connection to start automatically when i boot up ubuntu?09:22
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kangpehHow come linspire-clear won't compile ?09:23
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renatosanseverook09:23
orchidhi09:23
Seveaskangpeh, because this isn't linspire09:23
flodineanyone still on hoary09:23
nunuxmy question is how i install enemy territory game on ubuntu?09:23
orchidhow can i add the kernel source and headers to my ubuntu?09:23
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Blissexnunux: easily.09:23
kangpehseveas: i really like the theme though09:23
sethkSeveas, that definitely might have something to do with why linspire-clear won't compile.  :)09:24
Seveasorchid, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-source-2.6.1209:24
nunuxreally?09:24
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SAM_themansame shit09:24
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orchidSeveas, ok, lets see09:25
SAM_themansound don't work for games only music and movies and the themes09:25
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Kyynarahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 <-- is there a way I don't need to restart my computer09:25
boldstrikehello? does anyone know how to configure a pppoe connection?09:26
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Kyynarais there some way I can reboot my soundsettings?09:26
nunuxthey are a way to log in root here?09:26
Seveas!tell boldstrike about pppoe09:26
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boldstrikevery cool...09:27
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SAM_theman!tell SAM_theman about alsa09:27
orchidGuys, if I want to add any application09:27
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teknoprepYAY09:27
orchidi have to look always for the .deb?09:27
_jasonubotu, tell orchid about synaptic09:27
DUNFreakGod this is annoying. I installed Windows XP with VMWare, and when it accessed my HDD it can read the NTFS partition on it... But PartitionMagic reads the whole drive as "BAD", and unix software like qtparted and gparted are unable to resize the partition or convert it in any way shape or form. Very annoying and unnerving, this is!09:28
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Seveasorchid, no09:28
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Seveasorchid, you look in synaptic for the application and click install09:28
Seveasno need for manual downloading09:28
benplautbye everyone... off to my LUG meeting :)09:28
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baroslhow can i disable moving mouse to center when changing window in E17?09:28
AlexSeveas: THought that Ubuntu was moving away from synaptic to that other weird thing?09:29
Seveasgnome-app-install09:29
Seveasboth will be available09:29
bobcathi all!  does anyone have experience with deploying a jsp on a geronimo app server09:29
navaroneDUNfreak> I have probs with Partitionmagic 7 myself. Drive is fine but it won't play ball when trying to edit drives...partitions table errors...and bad geometry...but no worries...:)09:29
navaroneDUNFreak, does any of the error checking utilities in Windows fix any errors?09:30
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DUNFreaknavarone, the trouble is that I am unable to do anything with the drive from linux either. From what I've gathered, Gparted with ntfstools is supposed to be able to resize the partition, or even (which would be best) convert it to FAT32... but with no luck, it keeps telling me that I'm "Trying to apply operations on a busy device"09:30
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DUNFreaknavarone, PQMagic seems to "fix" partition table errors but that doesn't change anything at all09:31
nunuxi have a .run file to install09:31
DUNFreakPQMagic doesn't even let me run "Check for Errors"09:32
henrikssoncheers09:32
SAM_themanIT WORKS09:32
navaroneDUNFreak, hmmm...have not tried any partition editing in Linux...but my system disk (windows) is fat32 w/Win2k so the disk checking utils do not work anyway.  PM7 gives me errors and I think it may have to do with previous Mandrake install that hosed the table09:32
SAM_themanFuking Works09:32
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SAM_themanAA sound works and Et09:32
nunuxi make this command: nunux@ubuntu:~$ sudo /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run09:32
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SAM_themanu play ET to?'09:33
poningruwhat?09:33
eobanbnunux, and then what09:33
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nunuxyeah but i wanna make it work on ubuntu09:33
DUNFreaknavarone, for me I think it's Ubuntu that messed something up09:33
SAM_themani have it working09:33
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nunuxbut error of e/s09:33
eobanbnunux, what is the error09:33
SAM_themanand Americasarmys09:33
navaroneDUNFreak,  PM7 refuses to even start...I get error at startup09:33
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poningruanyone know how to create a exact copy of a hard drive09:33
poningrudown to the mbr?09:34
eobanbdd should do it.09:34
navaroneDUNFreak, I had no prob with ubuntu...but I installed on brand new drive09:34
poningrueobanb: dd?09:34
viktorhi all =)09:34
eobanbman dd09:34
DUNFreaknavarone, that seemed to be the case prior to me messing around with "TestDisk" , but since I played around with it at some point it seems to have partially helped09:34
poningruk09:34
viktorsomeone knows how to get my surrond system to work in ubuntu ??09:34
viktori got a av8 motherboard =909:34
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nunuxthat my error: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run09:34
DUNFreaknavarone, my drive is 2 years old, 60 gigs. If I had another one to write data to I'd simply format and forget, but in this case I don't want to lose 40 gigs of data, including websites and software that are rather hard to find.09:35
nunuxErreur d'E/S09:35
navaroneviktor, try "alsamixer" in terminal and see if all speakers are unmuted09:35
nunuxsry my ubuntu is french09:35
viktork09:35
eobanbcannot open file...I/O error09:35
eobanbhum.09:35
DUNFreaknavarone, besides if I could only resize it it would be fine, I'd create a fat32 and then transfer, resize again and transfer  again, etc...09:35
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LjLnunux: does "ls -l /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run" print anything at all?09:36
LjLnunux: and if it does, try "chmod +x /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run", or "sudo chmod +x /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run"09:36
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ramblingturtlehello everybody09:37
navaroneDUNFreak, what hosed my mandrake install I suspect was not defragging windows first and the resize left remnants of windows on Mandrake's new partition. I think that's what freaked windows/PM7 out. I now use the mandrake partition as a file transfer between os's and for mp3 p2p09:37
SAM_themanyo09:37
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avatar_if i were to install windows on my machine, after linux, is there an easy way (perhaps via a live ubuntu cd) to restore the grub boot sector?09:37
DUNFreaknavarone, I actually had Windows before, but I just removed the partition, then used the free space to install Ubuntu. I dont have windows anymore except in vmware :P09:38
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ramblingturtlei have a quick question. I am looking for a program that is similar to cool edit pro that will work with ubuntu. Really we just need to be able to edit cuss words out of tracks for a radio show. Any suggestions would be appericated09:38
DUNFreak60 gigs just ain't enough09:38
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navaroneDUNFreak, for the new disk and ubuntu I partitioned drive with manufacturers utils and left space for ubuntu to use...was easiest way for me...09:38
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viktorhow do i know if they are muted or not ?09:38
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wolkihi!09:39
eobanbhi.09:39
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_jasonramblingturtle, audacity, but you'll need to killall esd for it to start if you use esd (doesn't play nice with esd)09:39
BenUrbanis there a way to convert an ebuild to a deb?09:39
bimberiavatar_: not sure if "easy" is the word but there is this -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:39
navaroneviktor...the volumes things should be coloured at least partway up...if no colour then they are muted/lowered09:39
BenUrbanbimberi: sounds like you need a tinyurl :P09:40
viktorwell i have coloret all of them (but hey weren't colored when i entered the prog)09:40
navaroneviktor, use arrow keys to move between them and up/down arrows to raise/lower09:40
avatar_bimberi: chrooting is easy enough, thanks09:40
bimberiBenUrban: lol, it's a bit of an essay innit  :)09:40
bimberiavatar_: np :)09:40
ramblingturtlejason, thank you and I will look into that more the problem I have had with audacity is turning the tracks into mp3 format when I am done using the program but I know i just have to look into that a little bit further09:40
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navaroneviktor try again with the sound09:41
BenUrban!ebuild09:41
ubotuBenUrban: No idea09:41
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BenUrbanheh, thought not09:41
viktori have done that but whn i look on surroundut says [off] 09:41
BenUrban!deb authoring09:41
ubotuWish i knew, BenUrban09:41
BenUrban!deb09:41
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb09:41
BenUrban...09:41
bimberi!listvals ebuild09:41
ubotuFactoid search of 'ebuild' by value returned no results.09:41
bimberi:(09:41
jahshuaanyone ?09:41
jahshuai just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?09:41
BenUrban!gentoo09:41
ubotuBenUrban: Bugger all, i dunno09:41
BenUrbanlol09:41
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_jasonben_d, you can message ubotu and he'll answer you privately :)09:42
_jasonBenUrban, ^09:42
sarkar112!rpm09:42
ubotuhmm... rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien09:42
BenUrban_jason: didn't expect to have to pester the bot that much09:42
sarkar112!alien09:42
ubotumethinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/09:42
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viktorbut alot of the speakers says off :S:S09:42
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viktornavarone al to of the speakers is off :(:(09:42
sarkar112!gaim09:42
ubotuI guess gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/09:42
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sarkar112!root09:43
uboturumour has it, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:43
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shadeofgreygimp in the house09:43
shadeofgreywhat up folks?09:43
ximatr!kernel09:44
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Bateau_ok, i just connected a projector to my laptop. and i want to play a movie, exept on the projector the movie player gets only a blue screen. but when i have picture on my laptop screen the movie plays just fine. what can i do to make it work?09:44
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poningruubotu: forget root09:44
ubotui forgot root, poningru09:44
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Mateo_yop all :)09:44
Voodoo_VibeCan anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??09:45
zardozHello - I really need some help conerting my files to UTF-8 - nothing works...09:45
poningruubotu: root is <reply> disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:45
ubotuponingru: okay09:45
ProN00bBateau_, i have the same problem, my second screen doesn't support overlay09:45
poningruubotu: root09:45
ubotudisabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:45
BlissexBateau_: thats a bit unlucky, it means that the video overlay is not working on the output you are using.09:45
Seveasponingru, wth are you doing?09:45
ProN00bBateau_, what are you using to play the video ?09:45
Seveassudo09:45
ProN00bBlissex, any idea on how to get it working ?09:45
Bateau_ProN00b: Xine09:45
Seveas!sudo09:45
ubotuI heard sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:45
BenUrbanSeveas: ooh you're around09:46
BlissexBateau_: that can have several causes. However, at thre cost of a hufe slowdown, use the 'X11' output surface method.09:46
Seveas!forget root09:46
ubotuSeveas: i forgot root09:46
Seveas!forget sudo09:46
ubotui forgot sudo, Seveas09:46
Seveas!sudo is <reply> see root09:46
ubotuSeveas: okay09:46
BlissexBateau_: odds are that you are using the projector as a secondary screen and your card does not support video overlays on the secondary.09:46
eobanb!sudo09:46
ubotusee root09:46
henrikssonvmPlayer rocks09:46
eobanb!root09:46
ubotuWish i knew, eobanb09:46
poningruwtf09:46
viktorsomeone knows how to put on a speaker ?? =)09:46
poningrusorry09:46
BenUrbanSeveas: i found why my 3d acceleration wasn't working...i needed to upgrade my kernel09:46
poningruhold on09:46
zardozutf8-migration-tool does not work for me, and convmv changes all my Danish characters to  and other weird characters09:47
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Seveas!root is <reply> The root password by default is disabled in Ubuntu. You can use sudo to get super user (root) privileges. For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:47
ubotuSeveas: okay09:47
ProN00bBateau_, sorry, i dunno how to do it with xine, but you can use mplayer -vo x11 -zoom -xineramascreen 1 with those parameters to play it on the second screen09:47
Seveas!lock root09:47
ubotuSeveas: locking factoid root09:47
Seveas!lock sudo09:47
ubotuSeveas: locking factoid sudo09:47
eobanbthank you seveas....09:47
viktoronly 2 of my speakers are on of my 6 possible :P09:47
eobanbwe dont need that getting fucked up by people09:47
BenUrbanSeveas: now the opengl portion of aleph one is blank09:47
poningrujeez I was working on it09:47
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BenUrbanSeveas: any ideas?09:47
Voodoo_VibeCan anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??09:47
edelberghi all09:47
eobanbponingru, what was wrong with it before09:48
shadeofgreyi dunno if audigy is supported09:48
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BenUrbaneobanb: rumour has it, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu..09:48
SeveasBenUrban, given that I don't have the slightest clue what aleph one is: no09:48
eobanboh, oh.09:48
eobanb(shrugs)09:48
poningrueobanb: take a look at what BenUrban just said09:48
BenUrbanSeveas: heh, aleph one is a game that's not in ubuntu yet09:48
eobanbwell, we're fine now then i guess.09:48
poningruyeah09:48
navaroneviktor> I have sb live and in alsamixer I can right arrow over quite far to see spdif and such...make sure you have looked at all the volumes available and up any that are remotely like a speakers source09:48
eobanbi *love* marathon09:48
renatosanseveroI'm trying to use external IP to access my internal IP address.. in a way that people from other contry can access my computer . how can I configure that?09:48
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BenUrbaneobanb: never been to #alephone?09:49
nunuxoh i have another question, i have a great computer but it seem to run slow do i can make something?09:49
zardozdoes anybody know something about utf-8 conversion?09:49
ximatrximatr hola09:49
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eobanbBenUrban, no09:49
arpu_hi09:49
Voodoo_Vibehow can i get alsamixer?? i have downloaded alsa-base and alsa-utils09:49
arpu_i can not start firefox in dapper09:49
BenUrbaneobanb: if you love marathon you may as well be there :)09:49
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SeveasVoodoo_Vibe, in the terminal you type: alsamixer09:49
renatosanseverozardoz yes. it standard caracteres09:50
arpu_<window id="main-window"09:50
arpu_^    <menu id="helpMenu"09:50
arpu_----^09:50
eobanbBenUrban, i know all about aleph one09:50
arpu_^^ is the problem by start firefox09:50
Voodoo_VibeSeveas: yes i know but i dont have it.09:50
renatosanseverozardoz it's common used in XML files, so people can see "" ...09:50
zardozrenato - I can't convert my files to utf-809:50
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renatosanseverozardoz which files? what are you tring to do?09:51
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zardozI am trying to convert all my old filenames to utf-8, like mp3's and such09:51
Bateau_ProN00b: that command didnt work09:51
poningruBateau_: what are you trying to do?09:52
henrikssoncould someone explain how ip masking works?09:52
zardozrenato: I tried convmv and utf8-migration-tool without luvk09:52
zardozluck09:52
Bateau_poningru: trying to play a movie on my projector from my laptop09:52
renatosanseverozardoz I think you should make a script and run it recursively in all your files.09:52
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eobanbhenriksson, usually with a proxy server09:52
BenUrbanSeveas: X Error of failed request:  BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)09:53
zardozrenato: how would I do this - I'm not much of a programmer09:53
BenUrbanfrom fgl_glxgears09:53
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vicksi thinking of moving full time to kubuntu. the thing is that i have lots of documents and mp3's on my disk that i want to keep. backing them up on cd's isn'r really an option, as it would take quite a few cd's. would it be possible to make a partition, install kubuntu, copy my files to the kubuntu part. and then remove the windows-partition?09:53
zardozand convmv changes my  characters to  and so on09:53
poningruBateau_: what port are you connecting to the projector?09:53
renatosanseverozardoz why you need utf-8 files names?09:53
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melonipoikahi09:54
poningruBateau_: vga or svid?09:54
Bateau_vga09:54
melonipoikaanyone uses ntfs-fuse?09:54
ProN00bBateau_, do what Blissex said, change the playing device to X11 in your xine settings09:54
eobanbvicks, i wouldnt recommend live resizing partitions.  you should back up your data in any case anyway09:54
yanishow do I change the keyoard layout in console mode in ubuntu?09:54
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melonipoikai can mount ntfs with ntfsmount from the terminal, but from fstab i get an error09:54
zardozrenato: Some music applications do not understand latin characters and can't read my folders and files09:54
vickseobanb: ok, thanks09:54
shadeofgreyyanis:  y'know - i dont think thats possible09:54
Bateau_ProN00b: "Video driver to use" thingy?09:55
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melonipoikaand ntfs write is working!09:55
Riddellvicks: yes09:55
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chapiumwhat?09:55
chapiumntfs write?09:55
ProN00bBateau_, i would think so09:55
shadeofgreymelonipoika: ntfs write is VERY perilous09:55
melonipoikayes :D09:55
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Blissexyanis: it is sort of possible, not very advisable though... Look for the console tools package.09:55
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yanisshadeofgrey: it MUST be possible09:55
poningrumelonipoika: I wouldnt write to ntfs09:55
Bateau_ProN00b: x11 isnt on that list09:55
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Riddellvicks: assuming you have the disk space09:55
melonipoikantfs-fuse09:55
buliohow do I password protect ubuntu when it goes into screensaver?09:55
ProN00bvicks, defragment from windows then resize with partition magic from windows, worked for me09:55
poningrumelonipoika: its possible but its very dangerous09:55
chapiumntfs == timebomb09:55
poningrumelonipoika: but what was your problem really?09:55
poningrucant mount from fstab?09:55
renatosanseverozardoz hmmm once i have done a script to do that... very easy. but you also can find some information at: http://packages.ubuntu.org.cn/hoary/misc/utf8-migration-tool09:56
chapiummore of a powder keg really09:56
bulioheh09:56
buliojust remove windows altogether09:56
bulio;)09:56
bulioI did09:56
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shadeofgreybulio: right click on your top status bar and select add to panel and then click on the lock system icon and place it wherever you want09:56
ProN00bBateau_, whats there ? try everything09:56
hmpedersenWhere can i download hoary?09:56
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vickshow big is the risk that i totally bork my filesystems?09:56
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eobanbhmpedersen, hoary is not the current version09:56
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yanisBlissex: it's bad I cant change it to dvorak easily :/09:56
hmpederseneobanb, which is why i ask, where i can download it09:56
shadeofgreybulio:  you can also assign a keystroke sequence to it using system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts09:56
Blissexyanis: you surely can and easily.09:56
eobanbvicks, i'd say it's big enough that you dont want to risk it09:56
zardozrenato: yeah, but that script did not work for me - it just changed my Danish characters to some weird characters like  and such09:56
renatosanseverozardoz if you are able to do a script. i recomend you code it in python..09:57
buliothanks09:57
navaronevicks how big is your kubuntu partition in relation to the windows one?09:57
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yanisBlissex: how?09:57
chrisHey guys, what's the best backup tool that I can use to recover, when all goes horribly wrong, from a CD/DVD recovery disk - with incremental backups?09:57
houriOS:(WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)) - Up:(1w 1d 2h 52m 58s) - CPU:(1 CPU - Intel Pentium 4, 2.67 GHz, L1: 8KB L2: 512KB (2% Load)) - Mem:(Usage: 357/512MB (69.73%) - (|||||||---)) - HD:(Total/Free: 68.35/28.88GB)09:57
Blissexyanis: the console tools have a dvorak layout. Indeed I remember seeing a Dvorak-for-Linux HOWTO somewhere.09:57
eobanbvicks, you ought to be backing up your data in case of drive failure no matter what09:57
ProN00bvicks, whats your setup right now ?09:57
yanisok Blissex09:57
Blissexyanis: try 'locate dvorak' and marvel :-)09:57
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eobanbhmpedersen, why do you want to use hoary?09:57
meepyIf I want to learn and understand how linux works and how debian works, can you then recommend a book or somewhat?09:57
hmpederseneobanb, because breezy doesnt install on my pc.. And i know hoary does09:57
buliohow can I disable switch user though?09:57
shadeofgreymeepy:  the ubuntu wiki is  a great place to start09:57
eobanbhmpedersen, do you know why it does not install?09:58
zardozrenato: there is already a script called utf-conversion.sh, but it does not work right for me09:58
vickstherright now i just have a drive with winxp on it, earlier i hd an old drive with ubuntu on it, but it's to small to use as backup09:58
BenUrbanbulio: why would you want to disable user switching?09:58
hmpederseneobanb, because it freezes during installing the fonts..09:58
meepyshadeofgrey, thanks.09:58
shadeofgreymeepy: if you want to speak with me in private i can guide you more precisely to stuff you want to know09:58
hmpedersenafter an hour on the same font, it reboots09:58
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navaronemeepy> If you have gnutella or similar p2p do a search for "linux.*pdf" and you can get quite a few valuable reference works to look thru09:58
eobanbhmpedersen, perhaps you could try re-burning the media.09:58
bulionvm, its good09:58
poningru!linux09:58
ubotuwell, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux09:58
buliothanks guys09:58
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hmpederseneobanb, i did that many times.. now im asking where to download hoary09:59
BenUrbanSeveas: are you still there?09:59
meepyI've read "Learn Linux in 24 Hours" that gave the basic commands in console (rm, cp, etc) but I want more :P09:59
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renatosanseverozardoz I understand. that's because it convert files into UTF-8 . you should find a script to convert into other standard that doensn't accept latin caracteres.09:59
vickshm, i don't want to risk loosing my data, so i will probably try to hunt down a cheap hd to use for backing up (at least during migration)09:59
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eobanbvicks, good plan.09:59
vicksthanks fot the answers though09:59
BenUrbanmeepy: you might want to consider installing gentoo (just for the experience)09:59
ProN00bvicks, why not install ubuntu on the old disk and leave the other one like it is (you can even write to it if its fat)09:59
navaronevicks>losing mp3s would suck bigtime09:59
poningruhmpedersen: here http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/5.04/10:00
KnowerrorsHey all, can some help with this, I installed Firefox 1.5 using the Arnieboy installer script, but when I run FF, it crashes, heres what I get at terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/585910:00
hmpedersenponingru, thanx10:00
BenUrbanmeepy: the gentoo installation process does a very good job of teaching someone linux10:00
renatosanseverozardoz I'm from brazil (portuguese language) and latin caracteres aways bother me.10:00
meepyI tried it10:00
eobanbBenUrban, i respectfully disagree.10:00
meepyI got stuck pretty fast10:00
poningruhmpedersen: after installing hoary just put in the breezy cd10:00
meepy:P10:00
poningruit will upgrade10:00
zardozrenato: but why does it not change  into ? I mean, isn't utf-8 supposed to work with all characters?10:00
vicksProN00b: it's an old 6 gb drive, which is extremely slow and noisy. i'm tired of it10:00
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viktori have navarone i have now fixed so that all the side speakers works but not the sub or the center :(10:01
hmpedersenponingru, yes i know.. I just need hoary installed first..10:01
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navaroneviktor what soundcard?10:01
eobanbBenUrban, a newbie following a gentoo install guide expecting to learn how linux works is like copying some chinese characters on paper and expecting to learn chinese....doing does not mean understanding10:01
viktorrealtek 9710:01
B1zzhello all i am trying to play a dvd with xine,   I open it from the shell it it tells me libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.  It still plays the FBI warnings and goes to the main DVD menu but when i try to play it it says i dont have enought rights.  Any ideas?10:01
BenUrbaneobanb: you might be right10:01
poningru!dvd10:01
ubotudvd is, like, totally, "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"10:01
hmpedersenNow this is interesting..10:02
eobanbpersonally, i believe an organised introduction to linux is usually more useful....10:02
poningruB1zz: did you get that?10:02
navaroneviktor> sounds like onboard sound chip...is it actually able to give surround sound?10:02
chrisAnyone know how I can buff-up the Right Click dialogue of xmms so that my friend doesn't scream when I show her Breezy?10:02
eobanbusually books work well10:02
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hmpedersenMy gmail has 8 mails in inbox.. And my gmail notifier says no new mail..10:02
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hmpedersenoh well10:02
hmpedersengotta start downloading image now10:02
Hemet_Kahow can I open a squashfs file?10:02
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viktoryes it is an onboard soundcard i got an abit av8 board and yes it can give suround10:02
renatosanseverozardoz  yes. that's correct. UTF-8 works with all characters... but the point is: you have utf-8 files and need convert to linux compatible type of files10:02
navaronehmpedersen, are the mails ones you have looked at but not deleted from inbox?10:03
viktori use surround in windows10:03
BenUrbanHemet_Ka: you need the squashfs kernel module10:03
vicksi must say that the whole ubuntu-sphere is quite spectacular, almost everyone is extremely helpful, and there is very little flaming10:03
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LjLrenatosansevero: "linux compatible"?10:03
hmpedersennavarone, they are unread :P10:03
Hemet_KaBenUrban, how can I do that?10:03
BenUrbanHemet_Ka: dunno, heh10:03
tiloschris: try bmp its just like xmms but with gtk210:03
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hmpedersenahh.. gmail notifier isnt actually responding to anything.. crashed again..10:03
poningrumeepy: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/10:03
viktornavarone  i use surround in windows so i think it should be possible to use it in linux =)10:03
hmpedersenso much for kde software :P10:03
poningrumeepy: that is a very extensive guide to linux10:03
meepythanks10:03
renatosanseveroLjL without "" ... the player he uses doesnot support that.10:03
hmpedersenprograms *10:04
christilos: ok thankyou, ill have a look10:04
navaronevicks...if you get bigger harddrive you should update bios to insure that computer will recognize bigger capacity since you are usung 6 gigger atm10:04
_jasonhmpedersen, gmail notifier has always worked well for me.  Did you enable pop in your gmail prefs?10:04
renatosanseveroLjL linux usually doesn't work fine with all characters10:04
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LjLrenatosansevero: i see, but "linux compatible" is not quite the right term, as UTF-8 is as linux compatible as it can get...10:04
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zardozrenato: sorry, I am a newbie, but isn't Ubuntu Breezy utf-8 by default? And why does convmv not change my  and  characters to the same characters?10:05
renatosanseveroLjL yes. I got you.  I meant "his player compatible"...10:05
hmpedersen_jason, it works fine, unless i let the computer run for 4 days in a row without even restarting gnome :)10:05
navaroneviktor what speakers are you using?10:05
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LjLzardoz: yes, ubuntu comes with utf-8 set by default10:05
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_jasonhmpedersen, oh, I've been using it for 2 days... I better get ready10:05
Hemet_KaBenUrban, have you got a wiki, howto or a place to find information about the squashfs files?10:06
BenUrbanHemet_Ka: me? no....10:06
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viktorim using creative 5.110:06
void^Hemet_Ka: http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/10:06
Hemet_Kais there anyone with the information?10:06
viktordont know exaclty10:06
nubuntu"Qt installation not detected.10:06
nubuntuSet $QTDIR correctly and reru" - What would be right path here? /usr/local/qt3 ?10:06
Hemet_Kathanks void^10:06
vicksnavarone: sorry, i don't think i was really clear on my setup. right now i'm in windows on a 80 gig, the 6 gig with kubuntu isn't in the setup att all atm10:06
navaroneviktor...I am using 6 year old Kinyo's...lol10:06
LjLnubuntu: where is this happening?10:06
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renatosanseverozardoz I will find here a routine to rename files.10:07
nubuntuLjL, installing Exscalibar10:07
chrisHumm, my bmp isn't opening when I click it =/10:07
zardozrenato: thanks!!!10:07
navaronevicks...is the six gigs not in the windows machine?10:07
BenUrbannubuntu: yes10:07
viktorok lol :P10:07
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LjLnubuntu: since i don't know what it is -- do you actually mean installing, or *compiling*?10:07
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BenUrbanwait no that's not it10:08
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nubuntuLjL, compiling I guess :) sorry, but setting path, doesnt help. Same response10:08
renatosanseverozardoz  in python ok10:08
BenUrbannubuntu: i think it would be /usr/include/qt310:08
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LjLnubuntu: is it a KDE program or just a QT program?10:08
hmpedersenwell.. time for a ctrl+alt+backspace :)10:08
zardozLjL: have I understood this correctly: when moving my files from my vfat-partition to my Ubuntu partition, they automatically become utf-8??10:08
Hemet_Kavoid^,  if a distro instalation cd has got a lot of information in squashfs files, does this mean that I will not be able to modify it?10:08
renatosanseverozardoz  for renaming files you can use "os.rename (file1, file2)"10:08
nubuntuBenUrban, will try that10:09
LjLnubuntu: try installing libqt3-mt-dev, or kdelibs4-dev10:09
zardozrenato: ok, do I just write that on the command line?10:09
hmpedersenbrb10:09
void^Hemet_Ka: extract it, modify, use mksquashfs, done10:09
renatosanseverohttp://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/44251710:09
LjLzardoz: i am not sure if that happens10:09
nubuntuLjL, think I got those actually...10:09
vicksnavarone: nope, running kubuntu on it was no fun. I only used it to try linux out (i'm new to it). it's to small to use for backup, so i don't have any use for it, i'm going to have to buy  a bigger one10:09
renatosanseverozardoz: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/44251710:09
natexsomebody have a .deb for gimp-2.3.5?10:09
renatosanseverocompile it and have fun with you songs10:09
LjLnubuntu: well, be very sure you do before going mad trying to compile... "apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-dev" will tell you if it's really installed10:10
zardozrenato: thank you SO much - I will check that out!10:10
BenUrbandoes anyone know how to convert an ebuild to a deb?10:10
chrisanyone know why my bmp isn't opening when clicked? *drinks coffee*10:10
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Hemet_Kavoid^, t what program should I use to extract the files?10:10
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crimsunchris: that's much too vague10:11
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nubuntuLjL, off course Im sure. Not going mad, only almost :)10:11
dmIs there anyway in Gnome Desktop to hide mounted drives without unmounting them???10:11
chrishehe thought so, what could I say to help describe whats wrong?10:11
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eobanbchris, try right-clicking and choosing Open with...10:11
Quenyaranyone here know how to use atd?10:11
tiloschris: run it from terminal and see the messgs10:11
franky123dm: try the file mounter desklet?10:11
chrisok 1 sec10:11
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natexdm, hide? in what way?10:11
LjLnubuntu: would you give me a link to the archive you're trying to compile so i can try as well?10:11
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filleokusHow do i install flash plugins for firefox?10:11
void^Hemet_Ka: just mount the squashfs10:11
nubuntusure, 5 sec10:12
navaronevicks> good idea.  when you do make a fat 32 partition using drives util cd and you can then use it to transfer/hold files between linux and windows until you have all data files safely backed up or what have you10:12
hmpedersenim back :)10:12
eobanb!flash10:12
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats10:12
dmnatex i have mounted drives... and i cant get them off my desktop10:12
rabeldableQuenyar: whats question about atd?10:12
QuenyarI have a stupid question, when I am invoking an at command and I have the at> prompt, how do I end my input and return to the standard prompt?10:12
filleokusOh sorry, in Amd 64 :P10:12
hmpedersenwith a blue thingy runnong, telling me i have mail :P10:12
eobanbah :)10:12
nubuntuhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10197110:12
BenUrbanQuenyar: try ^D10:12
rabeldableQuenyar: type Ctrl-D10:12
LjLnubuntu: thanks10:12
hmpedersenI never got the amd64 running on my computer10:12
vicksnavarone: sounds smart. thnx10:12
natexdm, Oh10:12
dmnatex in other words, because i have mounted drives, 2 icons on  my desktop ( the drives links ) are always on my desktop, and i cannot delete them ,10:12
natexdm, gotcha... one sec10:13
dmfrankly123 ? i want to hide the icons thats are currently on my desktop for my mounted drives10:13
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eobanbfilleokus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats#head-8716eb8189b09219de135a59c22dd4f4cf1b702e10:13
chrishumm strange, it runs when I run it with root privileges - but not when I don't run it with them... humm10:13
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hmpedersenanyways.. i need a 32bit distro to be able to use cedega :)10:13
navaronevicks> you can transfer windows to new drive as well if you want and then make it the boot drive...but I do not know your needs...or if you are planning to keep windows at all once your data is safely backed up10:13
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QuenyarThanks!  It's one of those stupid things that they never include in the instructions...10:14
AoADoes somebody knows what does this means : http://pastebin.ca/3400410:14
chrisI guess i'll just add sudo to the launcher10:14
SAM_themanwhats the command to install mplayer plguin for firefox?10:14
natexdm, looking...10:14
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cor1yhmmm10:14
dmkk thnx10:14
renatosanseveroI need to foward an external IP address into my network IP ?  (I use a router modem)10:14
eobanbrenatosansevero, can you be more specific10:14
hmpedersenrenatosansevero, what router, AND WHAT ISP U HAVE?10:14
tiloschris: it works just fine with normal user here10:15
navaronechris> right clcik a bmp file and chose what program you want to open/view it10:15
hmpedersenahh.. damn ibm and their laptops10:15
silvertonwhat does it matter what ISP he has?10:15
renatosanseveroSpeedTouch modem router ...10:15
crimsunSAM_theman: install mozilla-mplayer10:15
BenUrbansilverton: my isp blocks all my ports :P10:15
crimsun!info mozilla-mplayer10:15
rickestAoA: sure, that's a link to a pastebin site.  j/k, it looks like you're compiling something against the wrong lib version10:15
hmpedersensilverton, because some isps kinda lock their routers10:15
ubotumozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB10:15
natexdm, gnome-panel:10:15
natexapplications->system tools->configuration editor10:15
silvertonBenUrban, get a new ISP then10:15
renatosanseverosilverton how can i know the ISP ?10:15
BenUrbansilverton: will do10:15
renatosanseveroISP ?10:15
chriswhat's the ext of a bmp file > navarone10:15
silvertonBenUrban, ;D10:15
SAM_themanthank u10:16
silvertonI'd hate not being able to serve anything, rofl10:16
vicksnavarone: hm...it depends on what kind of drive i can get my hands on. if i can borrow/buy a used one, i'll probably just move my files there, do a full install ubuntu on my "windows-drive", and then copy my files back.10:16
hmpedersenrenato, internet service provider.. what do you get your internet from?10:16
dmnatex ?10:16
eobanbrenatosansevero, the address for the web configuration of your nat device is probably something like 192.168.1.110:16
crimsunchris: it can play vorbis, mp3, wav files by default10:16
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natexdm, click on the panel menu "applications"10:16
BenUrbanmy mom has too much inertis in her email address thogh10:16
BenUrban*inertia10:16
LjLnubuntu: try "export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3"10:16
silvertonBenUrban, take inititive, get a job, and pay for one yourself10:16
renatosanseveroeobanb  ok I configure my web with 10.0.0.13810:16
natexdm, "sytem tools', configuration editor"10:16
eobanbrenatosansevero, all right10:17
eobanbit's somewhere in there.10:17
chrisoh ok, humm there all set to rhythmbox by default for me... uhh oh well - heh10:17
BenUrbansilverton: i have a job10:17
renatosanseveroeobanb  yes. but where?10:17
natexdm, then apps, nautilus, desktop10:17
eobanbrenatosansevero, i'm not familiar with your specific brand of router, but from what i can tell you want to forward traffic on a certain port to a machine inside the nat?10:17
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natexdm, you got it?10:17
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dmnatex GREAT , thanks man10:17
eobanblook for something like 'port forwarding' or 'nat' ...i cant help you more because this really isnt the place for that type of question10:17
natexdm, you bet10:18
renatosanseveroeobanb I want to give SSH access for a user from other country...10:18
proman!AsLaN_-_ 05-la_habitacion_roja-nunca_ganaremos_el_mundial-srn.mp310:18
ubotuproman: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about10:18
cor1ymozilla plugin try this page http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php10:18
crimsuncor1y: no, I gave him the correct one already.10:18
silvertonBenUrban, then pay for a different service for your room ;)10:18
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chrisI must go watch a film with some nagging lady, thanks for your help so far guys - seeyas10:18
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BenUrbansilverton: lol comcast has a monopoly on cable internet in this country10:18
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renatosanseveroeobanb So i think I should give him my external IP ... but it doesn't work10:18
eobanbrenatosansevero, i can help you with ssh, but i'm afraid you'll have to figure out port forwarding yourself because this is not a networking channel and i'm also unfamiliar with your hardware10:18
BenUrbanand i don't have a phone jack in my room10:18
hmpedersenrenato, can u tell me the productno. of your router?10:19
nubuntuLjL, thanks!10:19
silvertonBenUrban, you have comcast?10:19
BenUrbanyes10:19
silvertonwhat ports are they blocking on you that they aren't on me?10:19
BenUrbanall of them10:19
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hmpedersenmodel no.10:19
silvertonoh okay, that makes sense10:19
BenUrbanthey block 100% of my incoming ports10:19
eobanbplease stay on topic...10:19
Nytryxhey room10:19
nubuntuLjL, jackpot! :)10:19
silvertonI haven't found a port yet that has been blocked10:19
renatosanseveroeobanb ok. I have here some information in 10.0.0.138 ...like "IP routing table"10:19
renatosanseverocan it help?10:19
LjLnubuntu: i can confirm it compiles with QTDIR set to /usr/lib/qt3. don't know why it doesn't work "out of the box", that's a very strange configure script they're using10:19
eobanbrenatosansevero, no, that's not what you want10:19
silvertonBenUrban, why doesn't your IP resolve?10:20
renatosanseverohmmmm what should I look for?10:20
renatosanseveroeobanb  what should I look for?10:20
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hmpedersenrenatosansevero, can you tell me the modem's model no.?10:20
natexguys, I'm new to debian, is there a place to find bleeding edge debs? like gimp-devel branch?10:20
BenUrbansilverton: uhh dunno10:20
eobanbrenatosansevero, i already told you, look for something like 'port forwarding' or 'nat' or 'lan'10:20
cor1ywell good10:20
Hemet_Kavoid^, the squashfs files system is used for x86 based PCs?10:20
BenUrbansilverton: what are you trying?10:20
renatosanseverohmpedersen: SpeedTouch 500Series10:20
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silvertonBenUrban, wanted to see what ISP you had so I didn't have to ask10:20
nubuntuLjL your the master10:20
BenUrbanheh10:20
cor1yI just installed that plugin today and forgot how :)10:21
eobanbnatex this is not the debian channel, this is ubuntu10:21
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hmpedersenrenato, the 500 series is rather big.. with namy different models.. all with varying software10:21
void^Hemet_Ka: the first paragraph on the site i linked you to states: The filesystem is currently stable, and has been tested on PowerPC, i586, Sparc and ARM architectures.10:21
larzzzhello some one from slovakia?10:21
eobanbnatex, debian debs do not necessarily work on ubuntu10:21
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natexeobanb, hmm. well that is an answer I would expect on #debian10:21
hmpedersenlarzzz, not me.. But im trying to learn czech,is that close enuf?10:21
silvertonBenUrban, maybe it's just your router?10:22
Hemet_Kahow can I know the nucleo version of linux?10:22
JDahlnatex, it's not easy to find external bleeding edge debian packages. If you want the newest experimental packages, you should look at Debian Unstable10:22
larzzzyes i understand czech :)10:22
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renatosanseverohmpedersen i will try to find the right number10:22
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BenUrbansilverton: you can't reach my router10:22
BenUrbansilverton: you can only reach comcast's firewall10:22
greenpenguin13anyone know a decent suse irc channel?10:22
natexJDahl, ok thank you.10:23
JDahlnatex, i.e., install Debian Unstable instead of Ubuntu Breezy10:23
eobanb#suse ?10:23
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KnowerrorsAnyone have a link for a FF 1.5 deb for breezy?10:23
greenpenguin13#suse is really quiet10:23
hmpedersenlarzzz, Ses posral v kine?10:23
hmpedersenlarzzz, nuffin personal :P10:23
eobanbnatex, you could also try dapper10:23
insomndhi10:23
larzzzcool man10:23
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eobanbnatex if you are new to debian/ubuntu i would not recommend you use unstable packages10:23
silvertonBenUrban, has it always been like that?10:23
renatosanseverohmpedersen  I'm sorry. it just shows that information ... i don't know more about my router10:23
BenUrbansilverton: yep10:23
greenpenguin13dapper isnt that bad :)10:23
insomndis there a way to dial a regular phone number and have a conversation using my modem in ubuntu?10:23
silvertonBenUrban, I'd call and be like "wtf guys?"10:24
natexeobanb, ok thank you. Iactually only need the devel gimp :/10:24
hmpedersenlarzzz, heh.. I just created a new character in swg based on Radek Zelenka from atlantis :P10:24
eobanbinsomnd, you need a voice modem10:24
BenUrbansilverton: i've called them before10:24
KnowerrorsI tried Arnieboys installer script, which makes Firefox 1.5 work, but it crashes on certain sites10:24
Hemet_Kahow can I know the kernel version of linux?10:24
silvertonBenUrban, you in the states?10:24
BenUrbanyes10:24
Seveasyou know, ntfsprogs from dapper is cool10:24
eobanbHemet_Ka, uname -r10:24
rickestHemet_Ka: uname -r10:24
natexeobanb, I didn;t want to go thru the hassle of making my own .deb10:24
BenUrbanwell i'm in one particulat state10:24
Seveaswriting to ntfs :)10:24
insomndeobanb, how can i tell from ubuntu if my modem is a voice one?10:24
BenUrban*particular10:24
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hmpedersenlarzzz, so i have to learn to czech for when things to bad :P10:24
silvertonhawaii, alaska?10:24
eobanbinsomnd, you might want to look inside your computer and google the model number10:24
larzzzsorry idont know him :)10:24
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BenUrbansilverton: lol, no10:25
eobanbinsomnd, most modems are not voice modems10:25
insomndok10:25
renatosanseveroeobanb  I fount here  Network Address Port Translation (NAPT)10:25
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larzzzwhy do u want to know czech?10:25
_jasonKnowerrors, run it in a terminal and make it crash.  See if it gives you an error to work with10:25
eobanbinsomnd, if you want to call people from your computer you might want to look at some sort of VoIP instead10:25
rickestinsomnd: or you could use minicom to query the modems caps; i.e., ati3 or ati4.  that /should/ tell you10:25
greenpenguin13what would i type to get a list of chanells ppl?10:25
jenda_busylarzzz: Good question10:25
hmpedersenlarzzz, http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/z/zelenkaradek.shtml10:25
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cmathesongreenpenguin13: /list10:25
_jasongreenpenguin13, /list10:25
Knowerrors_jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/585910:25
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silvertonI'm in WA, and three of my buddies have comcast and they don't have any issues10:26
SeveasKaban4ik-, we speak english  in here10:26
silvertonand I know a couple on the east coast that don't have issues10:26
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insomndeobanb, rickest, i am trying to record a phone conversation...10:26
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greenpenguin13on irssi?10:26
insomndi was thinking this might be an easy way10:26
BenUrbansilverton: i've only ever encountered one other person on comcast who has all ports inexplicably blocked10:26
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silvertonsame state as you?10:26
BenUrbannope10:26
eobanbinsomnd, i should note that that isnt necessarily legal...10:26
jenda_busyhmpedersen: But why do /you/ have to learn Czech?10:26
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hmpedersenjenda_busy, because im a roleplayer.. I have to play the role of radek :P10:27
silvertonwhat'd they say when you called?10:27
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renatosanseveroeobanb  ?10:27
dell500how do i install a deb package?10:27
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larzzzstargate :)10:27
jenda_busyhmpedersen: Ah I see. Tak hodn tst :)10:27
BenUrbanhmpedersen: then you should already know czech10:27
dell500sudo dpkg packagename?10:27
silvertondell500, sudo dpkg -i10:27
dell500thanks10:27
hmpedersenYou cant swear in czech, if u dont know the language :)10:27
eobanbrenatosansevero, did you have any other questions?10:27
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redvelvetany programs out there is war drive?10:28
Hemet_Kavoid^, I've closed the web page (error), could you give me the address again please?10:28
insomndrickest, what kind of parameters should i issue to minicom?10:28
renatosanseveroeobanb  I told you, i found here something ...the most simillar to what you ask me to look for.... it's :   Network Address Port Translation (NAPT)10:28
void^Hemet_Ka: http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/  it's not only the project's homepage, but also shows up as #1 hit on a google search..10:28
navaronewar drive?10:28
_jasonKnowerrors, are you using an extensions or themes for firefox?10:28
eobanbrenatosansevero, that sounds right.10:28
hmpedersenjenda_busy that came out as:  "Tak hodn tst"10:28
redvelvetdeteckting wireless10:28
silvertonredvelvet, kismet, or airsnort10:29
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eobanbredvelvet, kismet is pretty good.10:29
jenda_busyhmpedersen: Anda that came out just as it aught here :) - it was "tak hodne stesti" - "good luck" :)10:29
redvelvetthank you silverton and eobanb10:29
eobanbor AP Radar10:29
Knowerrors_jason: I was with 1.07, but haven't installed anything since upgrading to 1.5 using the Arnieboy installer script10:29
SeveasKnowerrors, arnieboy is a fool and automatix is pure crap10:30
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redvelveteobanb, is this something i have to get through repositories?10:30
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hmpedersenjenda_busy, thanx :) didnt get past swearing yet :) (as radek only uses his language when something goes wrong :P)10:30
_jasonKnowerrors, run: firefox -safe-mode, and see if it still throws you errors10:30
proman!AsLaN_-_ 05-la_habitacion_roja-nunca_ganaremos_el_mundial-srn.mp310:30
ubotuproman: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about10:30
renatosanseveroeobanb  I clicked in NAPT Entries and it ask for Protocol, inside IP, ouside IP, Inside port, and outside port. is that fileds that I should populate ?10:30
Cybb_laptopIs really a root password set during the ubuntu installation?10:30
LjLCybb_laptop: no10:31
eobanbCybb_laptop, no.10:31
silvertonCybb_laptop, no.10:31
BenUrbanCybb_laptop: no10:31
_jasonubotu, tell Cybb_laptop about root10:31
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jenda_busyhmpedersen: Cool :) So you would know what a "pojebany zmrd" is?10:31
hmpedersenCybb_laptop nope10:31
eobanbrenatosansevero, yes10:31
BenUrbananyone else? :P10:31
silvertonlol >.<10:31
navaroneproman> ubotu isn't a jukebox10:31
KnowerrorsSeveas: Ive heard that before, why does his stuff get so much positive attention in the forums?  It shouldn't be encouraged if it jacks up your system10:31
renatosanseveroeobanb  just to figure it out.. could you give me some information else?10:31
SeveasKnowerrors, the forums are filled with idiots10:31
hmpedersenjenda, no.. But gimme a sec..10:31
eobanbrenatosansevero, what do you want to know?10:31
Hemet_KaI cannot instal the program void^ my kernel version is not there10:32
Hemet_Ka:S10:32
nubuntuLjL, did you successfully compile that program? At make, I get "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsndfile10:32
nubuntucollect2: ld returned 1 exit status10:32
nubuntu" aah10:32
Seveasand since automatix seems to do the right thing, they cheer him10:32
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Cybb_laptopOh, thnx guys10:32
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Seveasbut it's utter unsafe crap that has already triggerd dozens of reinstalls10:32
jenda_busyhmpedersen: Don't worry - you won't find a translation, or I doubt so. Anyway this is very OT :)10:32
LjLnubuntu: i get that too, but then i didn't install libsoundfile, i stopped after i saw the QT part worked10:32
insomndV.92, 56K Modem -> does that say anything?10:32
hmpedersenwell.. If i knew what "pojebany" was, then id know what that means :P10:32
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void^Hemet_Ka: what's your kernel version?10:32
Dr_Willisautomatix is very annoying at times.. - as far as jacking up the system.. no clue there :P10:32
nubuntuok10:33
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eobanbSeveas, i agree..10:33
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nubuntuLjL, so installing libsoundfile then10:33
KnowerrorsDr_Willis: yeah, I never used automatix or easyubuntu, but this one caught me bein lazy10:33
insomndConexant SmartAMCi Audio Modem Codec (AMC) CX20468-31?10:33
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LjLnubuntu: you need either libsndfile0-dev or libsndfile1-dev, not sure which one yet10:33
nubuntuok10:34
renatosanseveroeobanb  I add the information and ran nmap command in external ip10:34
LjLnubuntu: libsndfile1-dev is ok10:34
KnowerrorsSeveas: so what should I do now that Ive used his script? To get Firefox and plugins working again?10:34
nubuntugreat10:34
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renatosanseveroeobanb  I retorned the port 2210:34
SeveasKnowerrors, I wouldn't be surprised if a reinstall comes along10:34
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KnowerrorsSeveas: whole system? or just FF? (btw, Im running Kubuntu 5.10)10:35
renatosanseveroeobanb  seems to being working fine... but it still doesn't work when I try to use ssh "external IP"10:35
Dr_WillisKnowerrors,  i think they need to work on a better over all 'system' for doing such things actually. and quit all the bickering..10:35
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SeveasKnowerrors, at least FF, and if you did not use too much of automatix that'll be it10:35
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dell500how do you untar something again?10:35
Seveasdell500, tar x filename.tar10:35
hmpedersenjenda, i take it, its pretty close to 'kokot jeden pojebany' or 'Zmrde zkurvenej'...10:35
Cybb_laptopwhen using "sudo" before a command, does that automaticly restrict one from using tab completion?10:35
LjLCybb_laptop: yes, but you can fix that10:36
SeveasCybb_laptop, yes10:36
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Seveasthe programmable completion for sudo is busted :)10:36
hmpedersenand yeah.. that is very ot :P10:36
silvertondell500, tar x[j/z] f foo.tar10:36
eobanbrenatosansevero, are you running sshd?10:36
_jasonCybb_laptop, edit your .bashrc look for completion10:36
shadoxhello10:36
LjLCybb_laptop: edit ~/.bashrc and look at the last few lines10:36
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KnowerrorsSeveas: good, I never used automatix... so is this http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html or this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion a better howto?10:36
LjLSeveas: bah, works well enough for me, just some quirks once in a while10:36
SeveasKnowerrors, the latter10:36
Cybb_laptopoki thanks10:36
Dr_WillisKnowerrors,   if you REALLY need some updated program. there the 'autopackage' system  . or the 'klik' package system - that can install sutff on a per user basis. and thus not trash th whole system. :P10:37
fletch33anyone tell me how i can get a program in wine to recognize a usb com port10:37
Dr_Willisbut those 2 may not be as up to date.10:37
Seveasewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww autopackage10:37
Seveasdon't use that word in here10:37
Knowerrorslol10:37
renatosanseveroeobanb sure...10:37
fletch33i am using bitpim a phone software and in runs fine in wine but it doesnt recognize the phone or any com ports10:37
jenda_busylol10:37
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Seveasreally, autopackage is evil10:37
Dr_WillisSeveas,  been testing it out.. havent seen any issues so far.. klik  finially started working also.10:37
Knowerrorsyeah, after getting burned, Id rather do it manually, get all the plugins proper w/o breaking stuff10:37
renatosanseveroeobanb i have just connected with my local network ip address in ssh now10:38
shadoxcan anyone tell me how to get xmms, so i can play mp3's?10:38
Seveasapt-get install xmms10:38
fletch33i looked everywhere and i have been looking for 3 days i could really use some help with this10:38
shadoxdon't work10:38
shadoxit sais10:38
eobanbrenatosansevero, i really dont know10:38
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silvertonshadox, getting xmms won't help you10:38
silverton!mp310:38
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:38
shadoxcan't find package10:38
renatosanseveroeobanb ??10:38
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shadoxi also downloaded the w32 codecs10:38
Seveasshadox, enable universe (and multiverse while you're at it)10:38
eobanbrenatosansevero, i DON'T KNOW, i'm unfamiliar with your hardware10:38
nominI recently installed ubuntu as 3rd OS on my pc.  I would like to mount ubuntu partitions on mandriva, but I'm having trouble typing the right stuff into /etc/fstab.  It mounts it on mandriva but once I reboot it automatically changed fstab back to original file...10:39
hmpedersenshadox, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:39
chasmarangThere is no gmc, rox or konqueror!10:39
renatosanseveroplease... someone HELP ME... is that so difficult to allow SSH connection for others....10:39
eobanbnomin, you're going to have to ask in a mandriva channel for that one...10:39
nomincan anyone help me out with the last line in my fstab?10:39
shadoxthnx, i'll give it a tray10:39
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hmpedersenshadox, then uncomment the universe and multiverse repositories..10:39
silvertonfletch33, it prolly won't work, since the software prolly needs direct access to the ports10:39
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Dr_Willisrenatosansevero,  i never noticed it being hard.10:39
silvertonwine is just emualtion software10:39
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eobanbnomin, if mandriva is overwriting your fstab then it's a mandriva problem not an ubuntu problem, that it's an ubuntu partition is coincidental10:40
jorgpanyone know where the doc is that shows how to install ubuntu inside a chroot environment?10:40
renatosanseveroDr_Willis and so...?10:40
hmpedersenshadox, after that, do sudo apt-get update10:40
fletch33silverton, there is no way to direct it there10:40
dsl9017Hi there10:40
_jasonrenatosansevero, make sure port 22 is opened, that's all I had to do10:40
silvertonfletch33, no10:40
chasmarangDr_Willis: There is no gmc, rox or konqueror! and nautilus crashes all the time what can I use10:40
Dr_Willisrenatosansevero,  install the sshd demon..  check your firewalls.. see if you can ssh in locally.10:40
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eobanbDr_Willis, we've been through that10:40
renatosansevero22/tcp  open  ssh10:40
KnowerrorsSeveas: so theres no repos, including yours, that have FF 1.5 deb?10:40
nominok10:40
eobanbDr_Willis, it's some problem with his nat device not forwarding ports10:41
fletch33silverton, they make a linux version of the software tmiliar on how to install ithat is a .rpm but i am not fa10:41
crimsunchasmarang: rox, mc are available from universe10:41
eobanband i'm unfamiliar with how his web configuration works10:41
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SeveasKnowerrors, for breezy there will most likely never be one10:41
Dr_Willischasmarang,  use to do what?10:41
fletch33silverton, sorry bad typing10:41
dsl9017Is there anyone who can help me with my Kubuntu installation? Something went wrong and now I get "Failed to load operating system" at boot.10:41
shadoxi'm yet in the sources10:41
SAM_theman!tell SAM_theman about firefox10:41
crimsunchasmarang: rox-filer, sorry.10:41
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silvertonfletch33, google on how to use alien to convert that .rpm to a .deb10:41
SAM_theman!tell SAM_theman about firefox 1.510:41
chasmarangsee folders with swf files in them10:41
shadoxwhat yet? there are a lot of lines starting with a #10:41
fletch33silverton, ok thanks for your help10:41
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silvertonfletch33, no problem dude10:42
chasmarangDr_Willis: To see folders with swf files in them10:42
Dr_Willischasmarang,  ive often uised firefox and its  'file load' feature.10:42
KnowerrorsSeveas: do I need to do any removing/cleanup from Arnieboys before I do the wiki FF1.5 install?10:42
hmpedersenshadox, look at them.. there is one saying "Uncomment the following... "10:42
Dr_Willisto view swf ive downloaded.10:42
shadoxj10:42
shadoxyes, right10:42
NavireQemu in the Breezy are build with kqemu plugin?10:42
LjLqemu10:42
natexdsl9017, in your bios settings, make sure the device that the bootloader was installed to, is set to boot the machine10:42
LjLNavire: no10:42
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LjLqemu10:43
NavireOk10:43
shadoxeuhm10:43
chasmarangDr_Willis: yeah but when I want to right click and change permissions I cant10:43
chasmarangor edit10:43
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shadoxactualy there are 4 lines starting with ## uncomment the fol....10:43
SeveasKnowerrors, probably10:43
Nytryxe10:43
renatosanseveroDr_Willis  i have done all ... sshd is running ok.,  i don't have firewalls, and i can connect in my ip locally... now i'd like to know if someone from other network can connect to my ip ... I mean... i cant give them my internal network IP address... but it doesn't work to forward my internal IP into my external IP ...10:43
Dr_Willischasmarang,  you just lost me.. :P10:43
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NavireSomeone wish kqemu on ubutub breezy - http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.2110:43
LjLqemu10:43
dsl9017Natex, I didn't think the bootloader was installed yet. I quit the installation after the 'install base system' step.10:43
Seveas!qemu10:43
LjLqemu10:43
ubotuI guess qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=110:44
Dr_Fiemy ubuntu cd order is taking forever10:44
_jasonKnowerrors, read the removing part in the wiki.  His script is basically the wiki in script form.  He added a divert for the mozilla-firefox symlink too.10:44
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Dr_Willisrenatosansevero,  check some of the web based scanner tools - to scan your network and see if they can detect your ssh port perhaps being open.10:44
SeveasDr_Fie, it should take 4-6 weeks10:44
navaroneDr_Fate, good things come to those that wait...:)10:44
Knowerrors_jason: thx10:44
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navaroneDr Fie rather10:44
navaroneLotta doctors here...is it an ama meeting?10:44
Dr_FieSeveas: it's been about 2 months now i believe10:44
renatosanseveroDr_Willis  can you try to connect to my ip... ?10:45
natexdsl9017, That may be a problem ;)10:45
SeveasDr_Fie, that's a bit longer than expected10:45
renatosanseveroperhaps it's working and i dont know10:45
Dr_Willisrenatosansevero,  if you want :P10:45
renatosanseveroDr_Willis ok10:45
Dr_Willisrenatosansevero,  msg it to me if ya want to10:45
renatosanseveroDr_Willis but i can't private10:45
Dr_FieSeveas: yeah :-/10:45
Dr_Willispaste it here then. :P lol10:45
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renatosanseveroDr_Willis i'm not registered yet10:45
Dr_Fiei did order 60 thought10:45
Dr_Fiethough10:45
renatosanseveroDr_Willis  lol10:45
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Dr_Willisit takes 10 sec to register your nick.10:45
Dr_Fielol @ all the Drs10:46
Dr_Willisunless they did some silly email thing now.10:46
renatosanseveroeheho10:46
renatosanseveroalready registered10:46
renatosansevero /msg nickserv set unfiltered on10:46
chasmarangDr_Willis: I used to be able to open a folder with nautilus that had swf files in them and work on files in that folder with a click now nautilus crashes when I open any folder with swf files in them10:46
dsl9017natex, my install DVD is faulty. Will it help if I install again with a new install CD?10:46
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renatosanseverook10:46
Dr_FieDr_Willis: his tiblia has suffered from a minor fracture how shall we procede?10:46
Dr_Fieblahahaha10:46
Knowerrors_jason: Seveas , wonder how well this http://kidsquid.com/programs/ubuntu/firefox-1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.tar.gz works?10:46
fletch33silverton,  i have alien installed can u tell me where to find it to get it going.10:46
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Dr_WillisI belive we must remove his Medula Oblogonta and replace it with a small shell script.10:47
_jasonKnowerrors, I would go with the wiki, it works fine for me10:47
silvertonfletch33, should just be able to type alien in a terminal10:47
renatosanseveroDr_Willis private me10:47
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HeManHi! Anyone knows if xorg is compiled for 686 (and above) only in Dapper?10:47
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Dr_FieDr_Willis: RIGHT!10:47
silvertonother then that dude, you're on your own ,I've never used it before10:47
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poningruHeMan: no10:47
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Knowerrors_jason: but I should start with the remove part right? to clean what the script did?10:47
fletch33silverton,  thanks10:47
HeManWhen i try it on my Pentium 233 i get an SIGILL (4)10:47
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jedyyyyyspeeak spanish x_X?10:48
Dr_PedersenWell.. There are many doctors in here right now, Dr_Fie.. I agree with you on that :P10:48
_jasonKnowerrors, yes, I would open the script up and read it to make sure you undo everything10:48
jedyyyyyalguien k hable spaol?10:48
Seveas!tell jedyyyyy about es10:48
jedyyyyyoks10:48
natexdsl9017, yes, make sure that the bootloader gets installed10:48
Dr_FieDr_Pedersen: i just added the Dr_ part about 3 months ago as a joke and it stuck10:48
chasmarangDr_Willis: Dr_Willis: I used to be able to open a folder with nautilus that had swf files in them and work on files in that folder with a click now nautilus crashes when I open any folder with swf files in them.10:48
poningruHeMan: hmm thats 386 it should work10:48
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poningrubrb10:48
Dr_Pedersenheh10:48
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God_Pedersen:)10:49
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Dr_Fielol10:49
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dsl9017natex, thanks, I'm going to try it. I'm very happy with my DSL live CD now...!10:49
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huxspokane10:49
HeManponingru: any idea what SIGILL else could mean?10:49
eksajmhow do i mount a usb mp3 player as a folder?10:49
hmpedersennow i dont think ill use that name :)10:49
eruinchasmarang, that sounds familiar... do you have python-nautilus installed?10:49
shadoxi jut uncommeted the lines10:49
shadoxand updated10:50
renatosanseveroeobanb it's just working fine10:50
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renatosanseveroeobanb LOL10:50
shadoxnow xmms should work?10:50
hmpedersenshadox, good.. Then you should try again10:50
natexdsl9017, cool. good luck10:50
erUSULHeMan, Dapper is not stable yet.10:50
Dr_Willischasmarang,  as a test - try dissableing ALL 'file preview' options10:50
chasmarangeruin: I don't know10:50
hmpedersenshadox, sudo apt-get install xmms10:50
eruinerUSUL, depends on your definition of stable10:50
shadoxnope10:50
shadoxit still doesn't work10:50
eksajmanyone knows how to mount a usb device? any special program I need to install?10:50
hmpedersenhmm..10:51
HeManerUSUL: i know, but xorg in dapper works fine on my pentium m and my amd6410:51
oxezHi, I tryied installing kubuntu-desktop, and removed it immetialy (with my previously saved package selection). And now look what my gnome desktop looks like: http://24.122.115.48/Capture.png . I have not changed any fonts/size. The gnome-panel font is way too big now.. why!?10:51
natexeruin, are you using dapper?10:51
shadoxit sais10:51
Dr_Fiecrap... does gnome have a lilo configuration program?10:51
eruinchasmarang, could you open a terminal and paste the output of dpkg -l python-nautilus to me in a PM ?10:51
eruinnatex, ofcourse ;)10:51
shadoxunvalid operation xmms10:51
hmpederseni dont remember if i got xmms from apt or from a website..10:51
hmpedersenshadox..10:51
hmpedersenu need to do apt-get install xmms10:52
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natexeruin, cool, how is it? stable? better than 5.10?10:52
shadoxyes10:52
shadoxi did10:52
eruinnatex, better, and less stable than 5.10 ofcourse ;)10:52
erUSULeruin, is the developer's definition not mine ;)10:52
natexeruin, heh. I meant "better" as in "neater"10:52
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eruinnatex, I don't have any problems at all with it (apart from missing openGL, but you might have a different experience ;)10:53
shadoxaaah, my beg10:53
shadoxforget the "install" part :$:$10:53
hmpedersenremember the install :P10:53
eruinnatex, well, at the moment it's pretty much the same, apart from the fact that most things are updated10:53
shadoxyes i will :D10:53
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hmpederseni thought u might notice it if i stayed quiet for a moment :)10:53
natexeruin, can you tell me about the gimp? which version?10:53
amikronhi there10:53
eruinnatex, I don't think you should expect anything truly groundbreaking for dapper, since its main goal is to be a rock solid, supportable platform ;)10:54
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shadox:) it just, i'm new to ubuntu10:54
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eruinnatex, 2.2.910:54
cor1yok help someone, just finished a third compile of vlc, plain old vanilla version and it still tells me I NEED the wxplugin , no mention in ./configure list now that10:54
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Nytryxshadox10:54
Nytryxwhats upo10:54
cor1yi installed the dev version wxwidgets10:54
shadoxin windows you did never had to "get apt" 'n  :D10:54
hmpedersenshadox, welcome then :)10:54
amikroni am a newbie, i need a little help, can i ask a quiestion ?10:54
zardozAnybody here know something about converting filenames to utf-8?10:54
Kyralcor1y: why are you compiling VLC?10:54
natexeruin, crap. ok thanks for fielding my questions.10:54
shadoxthnx10:54
Dr_Willisamikron,  you just did. :P care to ask another?10:54
hmpedersenshadox, remember.. errare humanum est..10:55
cor1yfunny enough I download  the ubuntu version and that works10:55
shadoxand that would mean? :D10:55
amikronwell i got 50 ubuntu cds, and i tried one of them.10:55
cor1ywell I'm coming from windows and I have a lot of  home movies done in mv10:55
hmpedersenshadox, it is human to fail :)10:55
cor1ywmv310:55
Kyralah10:55
shadox:D10:55
cor1yand vlc can simply convert10:55
amikroni installed and it boots up10:55
cor1yfrom that to mpeg410:55
hmpedersenshadx, trial by error is the best way to learn :)10:55
Kyralyou need wxwidgets2.610:56
cor1yavidemux or kino10:56
cor1ycan't do it10:56
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amikronbut it didn't asked me for root pass10:56
shadoxlearing also latin :D10:56
hmpedersenheh10:56
eruincor1y, any particular reason you're trying to compile vlc?10:56
Kyralubotu tell amikron about RootSudo10:56
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shadoxso, now that i got xmms, it would mean i should be able to play mp3's?10:56
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zardozanybody knows something about using convmv?10:56
cor1yoyes I want to custome add wmv3 support10:56
Kyralamikron: our friendly b0t should have just PM10:56
cor1yI plan to ditch windows10:57
Kyral'd you a link10:57
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shadoxerrara human est, isn't that latin?10:57
Estelamikron, when did you expect it to ask you?10:57
hmpedersenshadox, you still need mp3 libs.. i guess some1 else could tell u.. im straining my neck typin like this..10:57
hmpedersenyeah..10:57
Kyralshadox: only XMMS and Beep Media Player have MP3 support out of the box10:57
amikronthx10:57
sedatI have problem about divx playing10:57
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amikronduring the install properties10:57
hmpedersenkyral, i didnt know that..10:57
ljlok, for the guy who was asking about kqemu -- i've had some problems with IRC (don't ask), but...10:58
hmpedersends10:58
Knowerrors_jason: can I uninstall FF 1.07 when Im happy with 1.5? (remember Im using kde, so no FF depending apps I think)10:58
Kyralamikron: did you get a PMSG from Ubotu?10:58
ljl!kqemu10:58
ubotumethinks kqemu is a *closed-source* kernel module for speeding up the !QEmu virtual machine. You need to compile your own version of QEmu to use KQEmu on it; instructions to do this can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu10:58
eruincor1y, try this: download and install the .deb listed here: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs , then use synaptic or apt-get to install the package called totem-xine10:58
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hmpedersenshadox, then u should be good to go :)10:58
shadoxok, i thnQ very much for ya help (k) ;)=D10:58
eruincor1y, works like a charm10:58
sedatI am using totem I see the film but I recognized that video coming after audio10:58
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Estelamikron, as bot told you, the password for your first user becomes the password for root10:58
EstelAs bot probably told you anyway ;)10:58
_jasonKnowerrors, if you are using kde, *I think (I don't use kde) you should be fine.  In gnome it would cause some problems.10:58
Kyralubotu tell amikron about RootSudo10:58
Estelubotu tell Estel about RootSudo10:58
cor1yok I'll give it a try10:58
jenda_busyHow do I check if I have the mplayer plugin in firefox enabled?10:58
_jasonjenda_busy, about:plugins10:59
sedathow can I change the totem settings that I can show the correct codec path for it10:59
eruincor1y, I'm assuming here that you're using gnome as your desktop, not kde ;)10:59
eksajmhello! shouldnt hotplug detect that the usb device i have connected to the usb, is a device and mount it for me? or do i have to configure it a lot?10:59
amikronthx i got the msg10:59
cor1yyep10:59
cor1ygnome it is10:59
eobanbeksajm, generally usb mass storage should Just Work...10:59
silvertoneksajm, thumbdrives should detect automatically10:59
sedathow can I change the totem settings that I can show the correct codec path for it11:00
silvertonmy 128MB thumbdrive shouldn't be considered "mass storage" >.<11:00
eksajmeobanb, silverton it is a iaudio mp3 player11:00
eruinsedat, gstreamer0.8 (which totem currently uses) has some audio/video issues... you could wait for dapper (which will probably have gstreamer0.10) or install the totem-xine package11:00
sethkeksajm, if the device is not formatted, or your kernel is configured without the file system type, it wouldn't mount11:00
eksajmbut i get the message that it couldn be mountdfe no driver detected on /dev/sda11:00
crimsunsilverton: compared with 1.44 MiB, it's quite "mass" storage.11:00
silvertoneksajm, if the filesystem is fat/fat32, it should just work11:00
silvertoncrimsun, I guess, rofl11:00
eksajmsilverton, hum i dont know what filesystem it has11:00
sethkeksajm, kernel support is missing then11:00
eksajmokey. .;/11:01
Cybb_laptopanyone who have had problems with licq due to "couldnt open qt-gui plugin etc"?11:01
eksajmcan i detect what i should add to the kernel ?11:01
sethkeksajm, might be fixable using modprobe11:01
sedateruin, I already use totem-xine but still have the problem11:01
amikronEstel: the passwords dont match :(11:01
silvertoneksajm, type lsusb in a terminal and see if it's listed11:01
eruinsedat, you could also profit from installing the .deb from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs11:01
eksajmsethk, kk do you have any idee what the module is called?11:01
sethkeksajm, there is probably a module already compiled.  modprobe should find it for you11:01
Knowerrors_jason: I followed the wiki, but when I type firefox, it still wants to launch 1.07, why not 1.5?11:01
sedateruin, I already have that also11:01
eksajmmodprove usb then?11:01
Estelamikron, Which? Root will *always* be the password of the first user you created in installation.11:01
eruinsedat, then I'm out of ideas, sorry ;-)11:02
silvertoneksajm, no, type lsusb in a terminal and see if the device is listed11:02
Kyralamikron: use Sudo11:02
_jasonKnowerrors, you need to do the dpkg divert command11:02
sethkeksajm, possible the dmesg output (where it said no driver) will give you a hint about the name of the driver11:02
_jasonKnowerrors, and then createa  new symlink11:02
eobanbwhat is amikron's problem?11:02
eobanbsomething about sudo?11:02
sedateruin, but I am curios about how I can change the totem settings that totem uses the win32codecs11:02
Estelamikron, you aren't allowed to log in as root through GNOME11:02
Estelwithout doing odd stuff...11:02
_jasonsedat, are you using totem-xine?11:02
jenda_busy_jason: Thanks. How do I install the plugin?11:02
eksajmsethk, silverton when i start up the compuer i get some error for module dependencies "couldnt load due to read only device" or something11:02
ltibor65Hi, guys! I have Windows XP, Ubuntu 5.10 and an other linux system on the Computer. Can I add this other linux to Grub loader, too?11:03
sedatjason, yes11:03
juan_Hey men,,, try to download XMMS11:03
rambo3like enbling it in gdm setup11:03
Ophiocusis there anyway i can force the update packages from the update manager to download to a specific location?11:03
_jason!info mplayerplug-in11:03
eksajmBus 001 Device 002: ID 0e21:0602 Cowon Systems, Inc.11:03
eksajmsilverton, sethk11:03
eksajmthats the lsusb11:03
juan_for me is better than totem11:03
sethkeksajm, that's odd11:03
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sethkeksajm, get the exact error message about the dependencies11:03
eobanbOphiocus, can you be more specific11:03
jenda_busy!mplayer11:03
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ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:03
amikroni didnt try to log in the gnome11:03
jenda_busy!plugins11:04
ubotujenda_busy: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:04
_jasonjenda_busy, mozilla-mplayer is the package name11:04
eobanbthe update manager installs the packages for you, so i dont know why you would want to put them somewhere else11:04
Estelltibor65, yes you can :)11:04
amikroni am reading the sudo man right now =8] 11:04
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action09hi :) i'm trying to find why some gnome apps crash on Breezy, and i found some posts asking me to reconfigure locales.. but i'm French, hwat locales do i need doing 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'  please ?11:04
eksajmsethk, how?11:04
eksajmdmesg?11:04
action09the error i have is '(xchat:8228): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed'11:04
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ltibor65Estel, how can I do it?11:04
zardozanybody who can teach a total n00b about utf8-conersion?? I really need some help. I've been trying all day!!!11:04
jenda_busy_jason:11:05
jenda_busy_jason:thanx :)11:05
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zardozutf-8 conVersion of course11:05
fletch33silverton,  sorry to bother you but i have 1 more ?. i converted it to .deb so then how do i install it11:05
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_jasonjenda_busy, np11:05
eobanbdpkg -i, fletch3311:05
silvertonfletch33, dpkg -i foo.deb11:05
wimswhich file do i set my repositories in again?11:05
silvertonwith sudo on the front11:05
Ophiocusi want all updates to download to another partition, i am experimenting installing ubuntu on the same machine with diferent install settings and hardware configurations, i figured i could save time if i had all the updates saved to disk so i could simply install them from there instead of downloading them every time11:05
eobanbwims, /etc/apt/sources.list11:05
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Estelltibor65, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst appropiately11:05
fletch33silverton,  ok thanks11:06
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eksajmsilverton, how do i found out error messages from during boot?11:06
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eobanbOphiocus, that's really tricky to do11:06
silvertoneksajm, dmesg11:06
amikronthx guys i am root now! ;] 11:06
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wimseobanb, thanks11:07
LjLamikron: uhm, i'm not too sure you should be thankful for that, unless by "being root" you mean "using sudo"11:07
Estelltibor65, you need to know the partition etc for the other distro, and copy a line with the Ubuntu boot details, altering it for the other DISTRO. Don't mess it up :s11:07
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Ophiocushmm,. ok how bout locating them downloaded packages and moving them to another place after install, what i want is not to have to download an aditional 51 megs after i reinstall the os11:07
eksajmsilverton, Dec 17 14:50:57 localhost kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.11:07
Nomikostrying to install mysql-server-4.1, fresh Ubuntu install, i am guessing i need to change repositories, that right?11:07
erUSULOphiocus, you can mount the patition under /var/cache/apt/archives/11:07
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EstelLjL: Oh it isn't... *that* bad ;)11:08
Dr_Fie.yawn.11:08
erUSULOphiocus, in all the systems11:08
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Ophiocusthats where all downloaded updates go?11:08
LjLEstel: well, from what i've heard, it's not too good either... and i still can't grasp what's bad or uncomfortable with using sudo, personally11:08
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erUSULOphiocus, do an ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ and find out ;)11:08
PatartreHello, is there a command in ubuntu to erase MBR, as fdisk /mbr with the win XP CD ?11:08
LjLPatartre: "mbr" i suppose11:09
EstelLjL, nor can I. I think it might just be ease, especially if doing lots of admin stuff endlessly and wanted a root environment.11:09
erUSULPatartre, no that i know of11:09
fletch33silverton,  ok it set it was setting up in the terminal. now how do i find it11:09
Dr_Willispars,   fdisk /mbr dosent 'erase' the mbr. it writes a NEW mbr...11:09
LjLEstel: in that case, "sudo -i" is your friend11:09
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EstelOn my first distro, root was my only user because I didn't care about system intergrity.11:09
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Dr_Willispars, you can use dd - and 'zero' out the mbr if you really really wanted to...11:09
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Dr_Willisbut i forget the right dd options.11:10
ltibor65Estel, can both Linux bootable in Grub at the same time?11:10
sethkEstel, that's not the only reason to not run as root.  You can make mistakes that can cost you many hours to undo.  Having to explicitly become root gives you a few moments to think.11:10
Estelltibor65, yes, they can as long as they have separate correct entries11:10
Patartre"dd" is a shell command ?11:10
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okihI'm trying to install an Nvidia driver but when I disable the X server and go to install the driver, there is an error about there being no gcc complier or something. i have gcc installed though11:10
rickestPatartre: yes, a very powerful one11:11
silvertonfletch33, it'll prolly be in the same directory where you ran the command11:11
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sethkokih, "no gcc compiler or something" is not an error we can help you with.  Get the error, not something vaguely like it11:11
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burnt-toasta quick couple of questions... does ubuntu use apt?11:11
Estelseth_k, I've enought of a n00b that I'm just as likely to make those mistakes with or without sudo ;)11:11
PatartreMany thanks, i'll find out11:11
Estelburnt-toast, yes it does11:11
fletch33silverton, well i had the setup files in my home folder then i ran alien in a terminal it said it was setting up and then went back to a prompt11:12
Estelburnt-toast, though the .debs aren't binary compatible with Debian11:12
burnt-toastok thanks estel... one more quick question... how do you install a package and give it the answers to its questions ahead of time... (like an answer file or --question=answer type command line stuff)11:12
ltibor65Thanks, Estel, I try to change the grub menu.11:12
sethkEstel, not really.  You might (one hopes) say to yourself, "what I meant to do shouldn't require root, therefore I must be doing something else, something I don't intend to do."11:12
alaHi there. Can I just throw a question at the channel here, or are there special rules to respect? (Apart from reading man and google for the problem)11:12
sethkala, the rule is not to ask whether you can ask.  just ask.11:13
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Estel:s11:13
Ophiocusouch, thats like, full of stuff11:13
burnt-toasti want to automate the install of some packages after installation of (an) OS based on apt. but I want to pre-set the answers to the package installation process11:13
Estelburnt-toast, Offer the question to the room, sorry, don't know that much about it (I imagine scripting...)11:14
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burnt-toastoops was not ment to be directly to you11:15
burnt-toastwas just a question to any that can answer sry11:15
alaSince I upgraded from Hoary to Breeze, I seem to have network problems. The interface eth0 does no longer seem to pick up on the DHCP settings. Could the problem be IPv6 related? I have tried disabling IPv6, but I don't seem to succeed. Any suggestions? Looking in the /var/log files, the eth comes up at 100Mb as expected11:15
Squee-Dburnt-toast look at chat?11:15
erUSULburnt-toast, apt-get -y (assume yes)11:15
Estelala, how did you upgrade?11:16
fletch33silverton, well i cant find it to start it up11:16
Estelcomplete reinstall?11:16
alaWith the gnome GUI, going to System-> Networking and then "deactivating" the ethernet inteface takes forever. I mean never stops11:16
ProN00bdid you check its settings, ala, did you try bringing it up with ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 ? ala11:16
burnt-toastala sometimes kernel version will change which number the network adapter is assigned (generally if you have more than one)11:16
fletch33silverton,  feeling retarded11:16
sethkala, which ethernet card or chipset do you have?11:16
alaEstel, The upgade was in fact a completely new install on unused partitions11:16
alaProN00b, yes I tried ifup/down11:16
Squee-Dburnt-toast my ubuntu machine just fell off the network but 'chat' is a good tool for automating another application (through stdin/out)11:16
burnt-toasterUSUL: I want to specify answers though..11:16
Squee-Dotherwise. id tell you what package its in11:17
burnt-toasthmm11:17
burnt-toastill look into chat11:17
burnt-toastSquee-D: thanks11:17
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alasethk, THe chipset is RealTek RTL813911:17
ProN00bala, if you are using dhcp ifup should tell you something abpit it11:17
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Dr_Fiechrooting to another distro is fun yay!11:17
sethkala, sometimes with realtek changing to the alternate driver helps11:17
fletch33how can i search ubu to find a program?11:18
sethkala, does the network come and go, or does it never work?11:18
Squee-Dburnt-toast no problem. you might find a lot of examples relating to modems.. thats not all it's good for :)11:18
fletch33i installed it but i dont know where? LOL11:18
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alaProN00b, problem is, once the PC booted, the ifdown never return the prompt11:18
erUSULburnt-toast, install expect11:18
sethkala, does dhcp every succeed, or does it fail every time?11:18
alasethk some times there is no problem (say once every 10 or 20 tries), and everything works fine11:19
Dr_Fieburnt-toast?11:19
burnt-toastyeah im here11:19
sethkala, I'm having similar problems with intel pro/100 and marvell gigabit11:19
oxezHi, I tryied installing kubuntu-desktop, and removed it immetialy (with my previously saved package selection). And now look what my gnome desktop looks like: http://24.122.115.48/Capture.png . I have not changed any fonts/size. The gnome-panel font is way too big now.. why!?11:19
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bunglehi11:19
burnt-toastjust trying to google while I have #debian and #ubuntu open at the same time :-p11:19
juan_HOW CASN I PUT 3DDESKTOP ON UBUNTU11:20
juan_WHAT COMAND11:20
juan_APT _???????????????11:20
sethkala, I have a tentative theory that it is an interrupt sharing problem, but if you have only one NIC that blows my theory out of the water.11:20
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sethkjuan_, SHOUTING DOESN'T HELP11:20
erUSULjuan_, do not yell here...11:21
silvertonjuan_, you'll get no where with the caps lock key on11:21
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alasethk, how do I change to an alternate driver? And why was this never a problem before.11:21
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EstelDo we have anti-shouting bots? ;)11:21
Dr_Fiejuan_: apt-get install stfu11:21
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alasethk, I used to have more NIC installed. Now it's just the one. But I will have a look next time I boot for the IRQ11:21
DUNFreakHey... quick question. How do I get Nautilus to burn 700Mo CDR's ?11:21
juan_ok sorry11:21
juan_thanks11:21
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juan_let me try it11:22
fletch33anyone have any idea how i can search for a package i installed in a terminal but i dont know where it is to start it?11:22
Dr_Fieapt-get install 3ddesktop11:22
Dr_Fieor just open synaptic11:22
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Dr_Fiesynaptic pwns my world11:22
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mario12hi, how can I download ncurses??11:22
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Chris_Tuckeranyone here expierenced with vmware?11:23
erUSULmario12, apt-get install ncurses11:23
dooglusmario12: synaptic package manager will download and install it for you11:23
DUNFreakChris_Tucker, I'm running it at this precice moment. Whatcha need? :P11:23
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juan_ok Dr. fie and after that11:23
royim into music11:23
doogluserUSUL: you have to use the correct package name if you're going to use the command line.  there's no "ncurses"11:23
mario12i see11:24
mario12i've tried it several times11:24
juan_ok Dr. fie and after that11:24
dooglusmario12: there's "ncurses-base" and "ncurses-bin"11:24
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juan_after apt-get install stfu11:24
mario12dooglus, what about ncurses-devel ?11:24
Dr_Fiejuan_: it's not apt-get install stfu..11:25
Dr_Fielol11:25
dooglusmario12: there's also evms-ncurses, libncurses5, libncurses5-dev, libncursesw5, and libncursesw5-dev11:25
erUSULfletch33, dpkg -L <package name>11:25
Chris_TuckerDUNFreak, i am having a lot of trouble with my network interface, im using wifi (ndiswrapper driver'd) as my main connection, and when using a bridge for vmnet0 to wlan0, vmware crashes when an OS detects network devices11:25
Dr_Fiejuan_: press alt+f2 and type in synaptic11:25
juan_ok11:25
juan_let me try it11:25
DUNFreakChris_Tucker, sorry haven't touched Wireless yet with VMWare.11:25
dooglusDr_Fie: I think synaptic should be run as root11:26
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fletch33eruin, thanks11:26
Dr_Fieerr.. correct...11:26
dooglusDr_Fie: alt+f2 followed by "synaptic" will run it as the user who is running GNOME...11:26
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Dr_Fiealt+ft then type: gksudo /usr/bin/synaptic11:26
Dr_Fief2*11:26
Chris_TuckerDUNFreak, wireless shouldnt be the prob, i think its the ndiswrapper thats causing it... when i use eth0 it works fine, but i know im going to end up wanting to use wireless in vmware a lot11:26
soundrayChris_Tucker, is there no native driver for your device?11:27
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Chris_Tuckersoundray, not that i know of, broadcom, using driver BCMWL511:27
DUNFreakChris_Tucker, that's what I mean. I haven't tried wireless from within VMWare... I mean I'm using NAT Bridging, no trouble. But wireless, no clue.11:28
mario12I've tried 2 download ncurses: ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ekg-1.6$ sudo apt-get install ncurses-bin Reading package lists... Done11:28
mario12Building dependency tree... Done11:28
mario12ncurses-bin is already the newest version.11:28
mario120 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 113 not upgraded.11:28
mario12ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ekg-1.6$11:28
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mario12what's up?11:28
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soundrayChris_Tucker, can you replace it with a natively supported one?11:29
sethkmario12, it's already installed.11:29
Chris_Tuckersoundray, if there is one11:29
sethkmario12, if you want the older version also, you have to force the install11:29
dooglusmario12: what are you trying to do?11:29
mario12seth_k: whilst when in tryin to instal another app it goes: checking for ncurses/ncurses.h... no11:29
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sethkmario12, that's not part of bin11:30
soundrayChris_Tucker, I mean natively supported hardware.11:30
mario12configure: error: You need ncurses and ncurses-devel packages.11:30
dooglusmario12: you'll need one of the "-dev" packages for that11:30
sethkmario12, those are source files11:30
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mario12so what am i supposed to do?11:30
sethkmario12, and, it tells you, _right_ there, to install ncurses-devel11:30
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sklavi love ubuntu but hate its freaking networking the way its called during init11:30
sethkmario12, so just do what it told you11:30
dooglusmario12: what are you trying to install?11:30
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fletch33eruin,  what is the address of a site where i can post the package list for you to look at . i am not sure which is the executable file11:31
sklava network restart doesnt start the eth0 interface11:31
mario12so i've installed ncurses, how install ncurses-devel?11:31
merlycan anyone help me setup kino or dv in 64 bit ubuntu?11:31
sethkmario12, right11:31
mario12sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel-bin ?? it doesnt work11:31
alasklav, I've been having the same problem. So far no sollution yet11:31
mario12E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel-bin11:31
dooglusmario12: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev11:31
Chris_Tuckersoundray, not that i know of, do you know if the dlink DWL-G122 is supported? i may look in to buying a native mini pci card after christmas but cant do it right now11:31
sklavala, and the damn thing is intermittant on top of everything11:32
sethkmario12, I didn't see anything in the message printed about something called devel-bin11:32
erUSUL!tell fletch33 about pastebin11:32
sklavalmost miss the redhat init system11:32
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sethkmario12, how can you install a package that doesn't exist?11:32
linuxmakerhi11:32
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fletch33eruin, thanks i forgot the name11:32
alasklav, indeed. Question: what graphical card do you use. And was this a problem before Breezy?11:32
sklavany plans on getting the redhat init system into ubuntu?11:32
mario12seth_k, works11:32
erUSULsklav, no afaik11:33
soundrayChris_Tucker, don't know about the D-Link, but if you go shopping, try and get an Intel one.11:33
sklavala, i started with breezy and i have since switched vid cards with ati and nvidia same issue11:33
eruinquit shouting at me! ;p11:33
Chris_Tuckersoundray, gonna have to wait, i need a more immediate fix11:33
oxezCould anyone have a look @ http://24.122.115.48/Capture2.png - Since I installed/uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, gnome-panel and applications fonts are way too big.. I tryied reinstalling mscorefonts but it didn't help.11:33
sklavthat should be a ubuntu project11:33
fletch33erUSUL, can u take a look at this for me real quick and tell me which is the executable  http://pastebin.ca/3400811:33
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alasklav, first I  thought it might have had something to do with IPv6. I'm not so sure now because Hoary had no problem with that module being enabled. Something weird with Breezy I would say11:34
DelvienWhat is the splash screen when you hit the login button on GDM and it shows whats loading, whats the name of that ?11:34
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rickestfletch33: no, but I'd like to see the rest of that babe on your desktop11:34
sklavmaybe get the redhat init system on ubuntu would be sweet11:34
sethkala, I have ipv6 disabled.  It isn't related to ipv6.  Why would you think it would be related to ipv6?11:34
sklavother than that ubuntu is by far sweeter11:34
grabakovHello again >^-^<11:34
EstelDelvien: Splash screen? Or do you want the file name?11:35
heimreel 14 ?11:35
fletch33rickest, what r u talking about11:35
sklavala, i think its the way its called in the init cycle11:35
grabakovI was here yesterday with the hope that I might resolve an issue I've been having with Ubuntu.11:35
DelvienEstel well both, but i want to know what that splash is called. so i can replace uit, (ugly brown is not my style )11:35
sklavthe slightest delay and the network is borked11:35
sklavor so my test have shown11:35
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alasklav, the way "what" is called?11:35
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sklavhotplug and network11:36
alacould be11:36
grabakovX refuses to start and the error output from cat informs me that various files are missing - this is impossible considering it was a clean install and I hadn't used it since then.11:36
fletch33rickest,  are you trying to say that u can get in my computer? LOL11:36
ShaquileIm planning to run ubuntu as a server. Is there a special release or anything that I should download?11:36
grabakovAll of these are fonts.11:36
rickestfletch33: sorry, wrong person  lol11:36
eobanbShaquile, nope, just do the server install11:36
sklavShaquile, breezy is a recommendation11:36
kbrooksShaquile, i use ubuntu breezy as a server with gui11:36
rickestI meant oxez11:36
SAM_theman!tell SAM_theman about alsa11:36
soundrayChris_Tucker, DWL-G122 is supposed to work with the rt2500usb driver.11:36
erUSULfletch33,11:36
sklavim using breezy also11:36
Shaquilesklav: Ok, thx =)11:36
erUSUL/usr/bin/bitfling and11:36
erUSUL/usr/bin/bitpim11:36
eobanb!server11:36
ubotuUbuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html11:36
fletch33erUSUL, yeah11:36
amikroni am getting packages right now, yeeey :))11:37
oxezrickest: hold on11:37
alasklav, is there a way to change the order of init? make hotplug go before networking?11:37
Chris_Tuckersoundray, can you link me?11:37
Chris_Tuckersoundray, its great news11:37
sklavala, i have doen that11:37
rickestoxez: j/k anyway  ;-)11:37
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oxezrickest: ok :p11:37
sklavbut if i issue a network restart after the system is up i loose eth0 sometimes11:37
fletch33erUSUL, i will try that thanks i will let u know11:38
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EstelDelvien, /usr/share/pixmaps/splash and the file..11:38
Estelhe left11:38
Estel!!!11:38
ubotu??11:38
merlyhas anyone successfully used dv capture with kino on 64-bit breezy badger?11:38
grabakovAny ideas? There are no reasons for the missings files...11:38
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rednaxelI'm having a keyboard problem with my laptop (ubuntu 5.10)... some ordinary keys (like the interrogation mark) are not correctly mapped11:38
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lightbrighthello11:39
grabakovlightbright can -you- help me? :(11:39
rickestrednaxel: have you tried different terms (Eterm, xterm, aterm) just to be sure it's not your term rathern than system?11:39
lightbrightgrabakov: with?11:39
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soundrayChris_Tucker, check out http://www.acmesystems.it/?id=70511:39
fletch33erUSUL,  well bitpim is what i wanted but when i click on it i get that it is an executable file than i choose to run and nothing happens11:39
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grabakovlightbright Ubuntu. I have just finished a clean install and I can't get X to start.11:39
rednaxelrickest, no... this is a G733, the interrogation mark is odd: it's Alt Gr + W11:40
lightbrightgrabakov: what video card do you have?11:40
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grabakovlightbright the log informs me that there are missing files - all of them fonts.11:40
sethkrednaxel, which keyboard are you using?  which language?11:40
grabakovlightbright ATI ;)11:40
amikron;] 11:40
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fletch33erUSUL,  the icon has a text background with a small square diaganol brown in it with "sh" in the bottom right corner if that helps11:41
rednaxelsethk, it's portuguese (pt-br), ABNT211:41
Chris_Tuckerthanks soundray11:41
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ElitePetecan anyone help me with an vmware question, the channel seems to be dead.11:41
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grabakovlightbright ?11:41
sethkrednaxel, the obvious thing to start with is the keyboard setting for NLS11:41
rednaxelsethk, all keys are allright, the only problem is this odd key combination11:41
Chris_Tuckersoundray, maybe now i'll mod my DWL-G122 into my notebook so that its not sticking out of the side11:42
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sethkrednaxel, you can use xmodmap to remap the character11:42
lightbrightgrabakov: what video card do you have?11:42
soundrayChris_Tucker, are you that kind of guy :)11:42
Chris_Tuckersoundray, yea, i can do it, if i dont need that board thing i see at the top of that page11:42
grabakovlightbright ATI Radeon XPRESS 200m11:43
sklavhow difficult would it be to port the redhat init system to ubuntu?11:43
ElitePetecan anyone help me with an vmware question, the channel seems to be dead.11:43
Dr_Fieroar11:43
QuikyHello all, is there any way to bypass a dependancy for a lib file without downgrading?   A downgrade wants to remove every package on the system including bash..11:43
sethksklav, difficult, or at the very least, very tedious.  Why would you want to do that?  If you want red hat, run red hat11:43
SAM_theman!tell SAM_theman about cedega11:43
soundrayChris_Tucker, make sure that reception is okay inside your laptop.11:44
sklavseth_k|lappy, were talking about init system not OS11:44
grabakovlightbright you get that?11:44
sklavbut thank you for the opinion11:44
sklavubuntu init system is at times flakky11:44
sklavand intermittant11:44
sklavdrives me nuts11:44
lightbrightgrabakov: when you load Ubuntu, where does it stop?11:44
sklavthat im worried to reboot my server cause it might decide not to load eth011:44
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soundrayShould I worry about regular "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" in my logs?11:45
rednaxelsethk, I'll google for that11:45
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erUSULfletch33, try running it in a terminal (it is a bash script)11:45
sethkrednaxel, man xmodmap might be enough11:45
grabakovIt stops while X is loading and the screen floods with text. After that, it asks if I want to inspect the log. When I click no, I'm back at the command line.11:45
fletch33erUSUL, what is the command for that i am still learning sorry11:45
lightbrighthow can I write direct from hard drive to my DVD writer?11:45
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sethkgrabakov, check the X log, see why it dies11:45
Chris_Tuckersoundray, i assume it will be11:45
grabakovlightbright It stops while X is loading and the screen floods with text. After that, it asks if I want to inspect the log. When I click no, I'm back at the command line.11:46
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ElitePetecan anyone help me with an vmware question, the channel seems to be dead.11:46
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sethklightbright, unless it is DVD-RAM, you can't11:46
lightbrightgrabakov: ok at command line, edit your x config11:46
dooglusElitePete: you probably need to ask the question11:46
Fridgeevening all11:46
lightbrightsethk: whats a dvd-ram?11:46
grabakovsethk, the log informs me that files are missing.11:46
Chris_Tuckersoundray, i may just mod in a usb port that is at the top of the display or sticking straight up, close to the edge where the display folds11:46
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ElitePetei have setup my nat.conf file in vmware but it still isn't opening the ports.11:46
fletch33erUSUL, i choose run in terminal and nothing happened11:46
sethkgrabakov, then supply the missing files, or take the incorrect module statements out of xorg.conf11:47
Chris_Tuckerbut soundray, its looking like that page is only for that fox board11:47
sklavlightbright, if you have an ld dvd drive then you most likely have dvd-ram11:47
lightbrightgrabakov: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:47
fletch33erUSUL,  i really appreciate your help11:47
sklavoops i meant lg and not ld11:47
sethklightbright, it's a DVD format that makes a DVD look like a random access device.  You treat DVD-RAM exactly as a hard drive11:47
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lightbrightgrabakov: how can files be missing with a new fresh install?11:47
soundrayChris_Tucker, I pointed you to it because it claims that the d-link has a Ralink 2500 chipset11:47
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erUSULfletch33, open a terminal Applications>Accesories>Terminal and tipe bitpim in it then hit enter11:47
Chris_Tuckeroh ok soundray11:47
grabakovsethk, they are fonts, I cannot simply remove them from the xorg.conf11:47
sethklightbright, so you can cp to it, dd to it, tar to it,11:48
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lightbrightsethk: I heard there was a solution using "mkudffs /dev/hdc"11:48
SAM_themanis there a firefox 1.5 ".DEB" out there not .tar.gz11:48
sethkgrabakov, you can, actually, but that's not causing your problem.11:48
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ruibye11:48
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erUSULfletch33, what package is the one you are trying to run11:48
erUSUL?11:48
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grabakovsethk, Oh? What would you say is?11:48
sethklightbright, I guess it depends on what you mean by write directly.  I don't think that writes directly, but check it out?11:48
Fridgeanyone give me some advice on kismet and orinoco cards11:48
sethkgrabakov, usually add or remove font paths11:48
lightbrightsethk: according to Debian developer i need the udftools and "mkudffs /dev/hdc"11:49
sethkgrabakov, or add a font server11:49
fletch33erUSUL, here is what i got http://pastebin.ca/3400911:49
sethklightbright, as I said, I don't consider that a direct write, but if it does what you need, go for it.11:49
soundrayChris_Tucker, doesn't mean that it will necessarily work with any of the native drivers (rt2500usb or rt2570) -- I've had no end of trouble with a Belkin stick with that chipset.11:49
SAM_themanok dudes i just install xmms-skins were the hell are they?11:49
lightbrightsethk: ok11:49
DelvienAnyway to change the backgound color while the splash is loadin all the libs and stuff right after GDM login11:49
grabakovsethk, I don't understand why I need to do all these strange things - isn't Ubuntu a complete distro?11:49
grabakovsethk, I installed it from disc without incident. Only starting the damned thing gives problems.11:50
Chris_Tuckerthanks soundray11:50
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markivehi11:50
sethkgrabakov, sure it is.  You would probably never have noticed the messages about fonts unless you had this problem that caused you to look into the x log11:50
lightbrightgrabakov: it comes complete!  you have the original 5.10 CD?11:51
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grabakovsethk, so why wouldn't these fonts have been installed? It makes no sense?11:51
sethkgrabakov, are you sure that you are telling us the first error in the X log, and that you see only fonts?11:51
markivei'm pulling my hair out trying to install anything else thats not in the repositorys :(11:51
QuikyArg, will ask again.. How can I force libc6-dev to install despite the dep. warning that Libc6 is newer than the = ?11:51
lightbrightgrabakov: i installed it without any problems11:51
sethkgrabakov, I've seen the same thing happen with fedora releases.  It's sloppy, but generally harmless11:51
grabakovsethk, I am quite sure.11:51
erUSULfletch33, how have you instaled the program, with apt (synaptic)?11:51
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grabakovsethk, and the resolution?11:51
soundraymarkive, describe your problem.11:51
sethkgrabakov, I've never seen X kill itself because of font problems.11:51
markivei'm trying to install tbear-1.511:51
sethkgrabakov, usually ti will say something like "can't find mode"11:52
grabakovsethk, so then it's my gfx card?11:52
DrScreamHiddenFly, is any default root pwd for "ubuntu 5.10" ?11:52
markivesoundray make doesn't work  , make install etc11:52
Hobbsee!root11:52
ubotuThe root password by default is disabled in Ubuntu. You can use sudo to get super user (root) privileges. For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:52
grabakovsethk, it -did- say something like that.11:52
sethkgrabakov, It may be, but I'm not sure.  Can you post the X log on a pastebit?11:52
lightbrightDrScream: yes yours11:52
sethkgrabakov, I believe you11:52
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DrScreamthx ;)11:52
soundraymarkive, have you done 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'?11:52
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fletch33erUSUL,  no i used alien to convert then instyalled in in terminal with -dpkg -i11:52
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grabakovsethk, does this pastebit work with irssi?11:52
markivenope hold on i'll do it now11:52
DelvienAnyone know how to change the background BEHIND the splash screen after you log into GDM ???11:53
soundraymarkive, it's a meta-package with a minimal set of developer tools.11:53
grabakovsethk, I am not familiar with it.11:53
sethkgrabakov, paste bot works with a web browser, has nothing to do with IRC11:53
fletch33erUSUL,  it wasnt available in synaptic11:53
markivesoundray thanksi'll try it11:53
eobanbDelvien, it's in the gnome preferences11:53
erUSULfletch33, breezy comes with libtiff4 not 3. which program is?11:53
sethkgrabakov, you go to the paste web site, and paste.  It gives you a URL.  then you paste the URL into your IRC client11:53
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grabakovsethk, okay, I am going to boot up Ubuntu and return. Will you be here?11:53
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fletch33erUSUL,  not sure what u mean11:53
sethkgrabakov, yes, I'll be here for quite a while.  If I'm not here for a bit, I'm rebooting.  I'm porting linux to a new platform and rebooting frequently.11:54
Delvieneobanb i managed to change ths splash screen itself, but there is still that ugly brown color behind it. Am i missing an option??11:54
eobanbyou can change the colour, Delvien11:54
eobanblook under Login, i think11:54
grabakovsethk, I'll be quick.11:54
grabakovbbias11:54
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KampfCasparHi all!11:55
Estelhi :)11:55
markivesoundray its doing something  ,11:55
erUSULfletch33, that the program can not find a dll (win terminology) and won't run. in breezy you have libtiff4 and the program needs libtiff311:55
markivesoundray i think thats done11:55
Delvieneonbanb i dont have a login11:55
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markivesoundray now make will work?11:55
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fletch33erUSUL,   so am i out of luck i really need this11:55
soundraymarkive, do you wanna risk trying? :)11:56
sergio_algieun que able en castellano11:56
markivesoundray now doung it11:56
markivethanks11:56
ElitePete!rs11:56
ubotuElitePete: I don't know11:56
ElitePete!es11:56
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:56
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fletch33erUSUL,  it is the only reason i have to go back to windows all the time11:56
sergio_alex ablas ablas espaol11:56
ElitePetefletch33 what reason?11:57
erUSULyou can try a hack do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.311:57
erUSUL and then run sudo ldconfig11:57
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erUSULfletch33, try and run again the program11:57
fletch33erUSUL,  i need thhis program to work so i dont have to sign into windows to use it. it11:57
grabakovsethk: Hey11:58
sethkgrabakov, got a URL?11:58
lightbrightgrabakov: hey11:58
fletch33erUSUL,  you want me to just click it and choose run in terminal11:58
grabakovsethk: Ummm... which URL? :)11:58
grabakovlightbright: hello there ;)11:58
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soundraymarkive, you may also need to 'sudo apt-get install libbluetooth1-dev libdbus-1-dev'11:59
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erUSULfletch33, in a terminal run the two commands a gave you11:59
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An_Aliashm, amibios version 1.19 doesn't seem to be detecting my ubuntu installation disk, and it's set to boot from cd-rom...11:59
sethkgrabakov, I thought you were going to paste your X log file12:00
fletch33erUSUL, k12:00
Delvieneonbanb hehe hit new login and crashed.. Is there a speciffic app im supposed to run?12:00

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