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Riddellanyone running breezy?12:23
Riddellallee?12:23
kozzif I can be of any help, yes...12:23
Riddellkozz: could you run  xvfb-run konqueror  and tell me what it does12:24
kozzhttp://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/46843312:26
kozznotthing else happends12:27
kozzalso using KDE 3.5 packages12:27
Riddellexcellent12:27
Riddellmeans dapper is broken12:27
kozzto bad :)12:28
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Riddellyo Hobbsee, fancy packaging the new rsibreak?01:16
Hobbseeon breezy?01:17
Riddellwell it would be for dapper but on breezy is probably fine01:17
Riddellmake a chroot with debootstrap if you want to do it properly01:17
Hobbseei could build on either, makes no difference which one i boot to01:17
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Riddellhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/DebootstrapChroot01:19
Hobbseecan i pass today?  i have to go to work in just over an hour, and i wont be around for many hours after that01:19
RiddellHobbsee: fair enough, let me know if you have some time to spare soon :)01:20
Hobbseeok01:20
Hobbseeif i were to just package it on dapper to start with, would i need the chroot?01:20
Hobbseepresumably not...01:20
Riddellnope01:21
seth_k|lappyimo, use pbuilder; it sets up all the chroots for you01:21
Riddelluse pbuilder to check it's all good but too much hassle if you're making the package01:22
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seth_k|lappyRiddell, I don't think kboincspy has a new upstream version anymore01:32
seth_k|lappy(per your earlier comment about some more packages for me to do)01:33
HobbseeRiddell: i'll have more time in...1-2 days, i think01:33
seth_k|lappynor datakiosk, Riddell. Both appear to be the newest upstream version01:34
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Hobbseehehe01:34
Riddellseth_k|lappy: ah, I'm getting confused with kboincspy and kboincspy-cvs01:35
Riddellprobably kboincspy-cvs should be removed01:35
Riddellseth_k|lappy: datakiosk in ubuntu is 0.7, latest release is 0.8 http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2063101:35
Riddellah, 0.8 beta01:36
Riddellmaybe not then01:36
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=== Hobbsee suspects that she should have packaged rsibreak, then learnt to use it!
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Hobbseefood?  what's that?01:43
seth_k|lappyI think it's one of the Three Mythical Beings: food, sleep, and vacation01:43
Hobbseeah...01:44
Hobbseewell, technically, i am on vacation, so that doesnt seem to be so mythical01:44
RiddellHobbsee: how come you're going to work then?01:46
Hobbseehehe - i knew that would come up the minute i hit enter...01:46
Hobbseeno, i finished school a month or so ago, and am on a long holiday till university starts next year (in early march)...but i work as a checkout chick at a supermarket as well (just as a casual), which is fun :)01:47
Riddellseth_k|lappy: your new kbiff includes a debian/ dir in the .orig, are you sure that's from upstream?01:48
seth_k|lappyRiddell, yeah it is... it's weird I know01:48
seth_k|lappyI can even check again if you like, but I remember noticing that01:49
Riddellseth_k|lappy: fair enough then01:49
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seth_k|lappyRiddell, yep, definitely there in upstream.01:50
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Riddellseth_k|lappy: hmm, error on krecipes02:27
Riddelldocbook2x-man debian/krecipes.1.docbook02:27
RiddellI/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook2x.sf.net/latest/xslt/man/docbook.xsl02:27
Riddellerror02:28
Riddellwhich is weird since that man page and it's build rule is exactly the same as before02:28
seth_k|lappy:S02:35
seth_k|lappyand that file definitely exists02:35
seth_k|lappycould it have been a network hiccup?02:36
Tonio_Riddell: concerning briquolo, Raphink is gonna test on dapper02:38
Riddellcool02:39
Riddellseth_k|lappy: doesn't seem to want to work for me02:39
Tonio_going to bed now....02:40
Tonio_'night all02:40
seth_k|lappyRiddell, doesn't compile for you personally either?02:40
Riddellseth_k|lappy: no, does it compile for you?02:41
RiddellI'll try in a pbuilder02:41
seth_k|lappyIt did once; I installed it and everything02:41
seth_k|lappylet me try again02:41
seth_k|lappyif it doesn't this time, maybe it's sourceforge's fault02:41
seth_k|lappyb/c I didn't touch the docbook file, as you noted02:42
Riddellseth_k|lappy: working in a pbuilder02:47
Riddellso I think I'll risk an upload :)02:47
seth_k|lappyhehe02:49
seth_k|lappyworks in my pbuilder too02:49
Riddellseth_k|lappy: keep an eye on the build logs to see if they compile and if they do contact the debian maintainers02:51
seth_k|lappyto let them know we packaged a new version?02:52
Riddellyes02:52
RiddellI'm off to bed02:52
seth_k|lappyalright, good night :)02:53
Riddellthanks for your packages :)02:53
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seth_k|lappyI'm glad I actually know enough to help out now02:54
seth_k|lappyinstead of just asking questions02:54
seth_k|lappyhum, there is no krecipes package02:54
seth_k|lappyin debian that is02:54
seth_k|lappyRiddell, krecipes built fine, except on i386, where it gave a wacky error before ever beginning to build (it couldn't set up the build environment. May need to re-poke to make sure it goes through.)03:48
crimsunseth_k|lappy: i386 buildds are wonky03:48
seth_k|lappyah, alright :)03:48
seth_k|lappythanks crimsun 03:48
crimsunknown issue, will be fixed last I checked03:48
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HobbseeRiddell: ping10:43
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=== mornfall points Riddell at the last adept commit :-)
mornfallRiddell: (in other words, the dependency list works and i find it good :)05:15
Riddellawooga, got a screenshot?05:15
mornfallin a minute :)05:16
mornfallRiddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-depends.png05:29
mornfallRiddell: (i know, the overal layout is somewhat crude... the thing is the list)05:30
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mornfallwow05:30
Riddellmornfall: nice but where does it say depends or recommends etc?05:32
mornfallRiddell: i am not sure yet how to do this, so i didn't05:32
mornfallRiddell: adding it to list or making tabs05:33
mornfallRiddell: i'll probably add labels to list05:33
Riddellit could do with a qlistitem that's just a big bold "Depends", but I don't know if qlistview can do that without it being in the tree05:34
mornfallRiddell: i can do lots of things to listviews ;-)05:34
Riddellyes, you seem to be the master of getting listviews to do good things :)05:35
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amumornfall: ping, where i can get your latest code? 09:03
mornfallamu: it should be in svn, why?09:03
amutime for testing it ;)09:03
amuremember, you requested a test?!?09:04
mornfallamu: oh, i ment the kubuntu version09:05
mornfallmeant*09:05
amusure :) i do not test redhat software *g* 09:06
mornfallamu: anyhow, Riddell tested it in the meantime i think09:06
amualso for ppc ? 09:06
mornfallamu: for ppc, that was the point of the test :)09:06
amumornfall: :) good morning 09:06
mornfallwhat?09:07
amuhhehe, that's maybe special, means something like, you just awake, you have to sort your minds 09:08
mornfalli figured that... i just don't know what i am/was missing09:09
amuyeah ppc isnt well supported, installed this weekend the new opensuse *g* except wireless everything works 09:11
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mornfallRiddell: ping10:21
mornfallRiddell: what chances are i could have a spinner (throbber) graphic for adept? :D10:22
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KnowerrorsJust upgraded to kde 3.5 on breezy, got one problem that no one in the regular chat can solve http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2088.0 , can someone help please?10:25
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Riddellmornfall: yo11:00
Riddellmornfall: use the konqueror one?11:00
mornfallRiddell: i am not completely sure about that11:10
mornfallRiddell: i would maybe prefer something more fitting :)11:10
mornfallRiddell: (on the other hand, i'm not completely sure i want to add it either)11:11
Riddellmornfall: it's a KAnimWidget, but you want a custom graphic?11:14
Riddellit makes sense to be consistent with konqueror on it11:14
mornfallRiddell: i was thinking a graphic related to packaging yes... just a semi-wild idea, really11:16
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RiddellI'm trying to remember who did the adept icon11:19
Riddellmorning Hobbsee 11:23
Hobbseemorning Riddell :)11:23
Hobbseeinteresting interview, by the way - the one you put on kde.org11:25
Riddellyou like it?11:26
mornfallRiddell: Tonio_?11:26
RiddellTonio_: was it you did the adept icon?11:27
HobbseeROFL! - I've learnt not to do experimental testing on our family desktop, so that helps. :) - testing experimental stuff on a crucial machine is always fun!  Yes, i do like it to answer the question11:28
mornfallRiddell: i have mostly finished i18n-ing adept :)11:29
mornfalli should figure the konsole hiding thing and go to bed, i guess11:29
Riddellmornfall: ooh, libapt-front too?11:29
mornfallRiddell: not really, but then, there is maybe a dozen libapt-front strings... i have it mostly done, but i am too tired to fight autotools now11:30
Riddellyeah, flighting autotools takes all your strength11:31
mornfallRiddell: i have .pot-file though, it has 9 translatable strings in it (for libapt-front)11:31
mornfallRiddell: i have to think out if exceptions should be translated or not (and if i should or should not present their text to user)11:32
Riddellnah, just be like MacOS X and put a big "Code 0!" dialogue box that keeps popping up when you click OK so you can't exit the program11:33
mornfallhar har11:36
Tonio_Riddell, mornfall, hi !11:36
Riddellyo Tonio_ 11:37
Tonio_I did the adept icon yes ;)11:37
Tonio_yop ;)11:37
mornfallha i have good memory11:37
Riddellknow anything about making animations? :)11:37
mornfalleven if noone believes me :)11:37
Tonio_Riddell: didn't you remember ?11:37
Tonio_we finished the last details and colors together11:37
RiddellI've had lots of wine, but yes I do remember11:37
mornfallyarrr11:37
Tonio_hehe11:37
mornfallwine11:37
mornfalli could have some wine11:38
mornfalland then fall asleep11:38
mornfallcoding is getting on my mind11:38
mornfallslowly and surely11:38
Tonio_mornfall: would like another icon ?11:38
mornfallTonio_: i was thinking throbber (browser-style)11:39
RiddellTonio_: probably the same icon, but animated11:39
mornfallTonio_: just an idea tho11:39
Tonio_animated ?11:39
Tonio_hum do you have an example ?11:39
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RiddellTonio_: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/actions/kde.png11:39
Tonio_Riddell: I see and understand11:40
Tonio_maybe a closed box that would open and close11:40
Tonio_smoething like that ?11:40
Riddellyep11:40
Tonio_is it for the update announce in the systray ?11:40
Riddellno, but that's another idea :)  might get a bit tacky11:41
Tonio_could be simpathetic to have a moving icon in the systray11:41
mornfallRiddell: no systray animations please... it is plain annoying IMO11:41
RiddellI suspect I agree11:42
Tonio_but I can do a kind of png like this one right11:42
Tonio_what is it for in that case ?11:42
RiddellTonio_: for adept11:42
Tonio_yes but in the application ?11:42
Tonio_inside I mean ?11:42
RiddellI think that's the idea11:42
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Riddellyes11:42
Tonio_okay11:43
Tonio_so take the same icon that the actual one and try a little animation11:43
Tonio_48*48 for the size11:43
Tonio_with an svg icon that shouldn't be long11:43
Riddell48, 32, 22 and 16 size11:43
Tonio_no pb11:44
Riddelland it needs to repeat itself of course, so the end joins the start11:44
Tonio_I'l start workig on that tomorow11:44
Tonio_Riddell: of course, that's obvious11:45
Tonio_mornfall: I will start tomorow11:45
Tonio_It might take one to two days, I'll send that to you by email11:46
mornfallit's not in hurry11:46
mornfalli won't have time to implement it for the alpha anyway11:46
mornfallTonio_: thanks :)11:46
Tonio_mornfall: you're welcome ;)11:46
Tm_TRiddell: what's that kdebase update?11:56
Tm_Tsome of its dependencies has changed?11:56
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