[10:19] <floam> is there any possibility of getting CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND set to y in dapper?
[10:20] <floam> linux-usb people are saying that it being off is the reason some USB devices can't turn off while plugged in.
[12:26] <CataEnry> hi :)
[03:39] <BenC> floam: cool, my kids want you for christmas
[03:40] <BenC> floam: and as for USB_SUSPEND, it's marked experimental...if it isn't, then maybe they should get that fixed :)
[03:40] <fabbione> hey Ben
[03:40] <BenC> hey fabio
[03:41] <fabbione> BenC: i just tested hppa stuff
[03:41] <fabbione> .12-mckinley is no good
[03:41] <fabbione> sorry i mean ia64
[03:42] <BenC> you have a mckinley?
[03:42] <fabbione> i am gonna have to play with it to see what's wrong
[03:42] <fabbione> apparently i do
[03:42] <fabbione> at least the installer detect it as such
[03:42] <BenC> sweet, mines itanium, so I know that works
[03:42] <BenC> cat /proc/cpuinfo just to be sure
[03:42] <fabbione> it's turned off now.. let me see if i have it in the scrollback
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione processor  : 0
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione vendor     : GenuineIntel
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione arch       : IA-64
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione family     : Itanium 2
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione model      : 0
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione revision   : 7
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione archrev    : 0
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione features   : branchlong
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione cpu number : 0
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione cpu regs   : 4
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione cpu MHz    : 900.000000
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione itc MHz    : 900.000000
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione BogoMIPS   : 1347.58
[03:43] <fabbione> fabbione siblings   : 1
[03:43] <BenC> I2 I guess is mckinley
[03:43] <fabbione> the error anyway was related to SCSI missing symbols
[03:44] <fabbione> so it might be either a bad initrd or a broken kernel
[03:44] <BenC> hmm, I should be able to see that for myself
[03:44] <fabbione> i will look at it one of the next days
[03:44] <fabbione> i didn't really have much time to debug, because i have only one console cable to share with 4 machines
[03:44] <fabbione> and sparc doesn't like to stay without console
[03:44] <BenC> if it's missing symbols, it's not because of t he kernel
[03:45] <fabbione> i plan to go out and buy them tomorrow
[03:45] <BenC> the builds show no missing symbols
[03:45] <fabbione> yeah i think it's a missing module in the initrd
[03:45] <fabbione> but that was .12
[03:45] <fabbione> i have to check .15 too
[03:45] <fabbione> http://www.fabbione.net/new_office.jpg
[03:45] <fabbione> check out the local datacenter :)
[03:46] <fabbione> the sparcbuildd is under the cisco switch ;)
[03:46] <Mithrandir> you need to rotate the image
[03:46] <fabbione> http://www.fabbione.net/new_ws.jpg
[03:46] <fabbione> this is my ws :)
[03:46] <fabbione> Mithrandir: i just took a pic on the fly
[03:46] <fabbione> -ENOCARE :)
[03:47] <fabbione> there is a black tower on the left, but you can barely notice
[03:48] <fabbione> see now i should be maintaining the kernel.. now that i can test on arch: all
[03:49] <fabbione> not when i only had i386
[04:11] <zul> heylo
[04:48] <BenC> fabbione: still getting bug reports that claim broken 2.6.12-10, but work with 2.6.12-9...one was a amd64 bug about GPF's at random, another is hibernation randomly broken
[04:48] <BenC> I think I know the patch that is probably the cause
[04:48] <BenC> I think it's the procfs patch
[04:49] <fabbione> hmmmmm
[04:49] <fabbione> for now just reassign the bugs to me
[04:49] <fabbione> i am going to do the pending security stuff this week
[04:49] <fabbione> and i can ask people to pre-test a kernel with reverted proc-fs
[04:51] <BenC> ok
[04:57] <BenC> yeah, the procfs one seems like the only one that could cause random issues (and lockups)
[05:14] <zul> does anyone have a ccis raid card with dapper?
[05:18] <zul> i guess not
[06:58] <jbailey> zul: lamont might have access to one.  They're common in HP gear.
[06:59] <zul> hmm...ill ask him then
[07:38] <BenC> avahi+daapd == music heaven
[08:03] <floam> BenC: want me for christmas?
[08:03] <floam> I'm playful
[08:13] <BenC> floam: hehe
[08:13] <BenC> I didn't even know what floam was until my kids asked for it
[08:14] <floam> heh.
[08:15] <floam> I had this name before that goo stuff came out
[08:15] <floam> I should sue 'em.
[08:17] <floam> BenC: I didn't know what floam was until I got a letter from some guy on behalf on Nickelodian asking me if I want to sell floam on my website and make money (or hand my website over to them)
[08:17] <floam> I had the #1 spot on a google search for "floam" at the time
[08:17] <BenC> did you make any money for it?
[08:17] <floam> I said no, and now it seems like they've gone nuts with search engine optimization and are above me now
[08:17] <floam> BenC: nah, I didn't do it
[08:18] <floam> I think their first email I have somewhere...
[08:18] <floam> http://floam.sh.nu/files/misc/floam
[08:19] <floam> it seemed like a ripoff, the letter looks mostly canned
[08:22] <BenC> yeah, they didn't really make that look legit enough
[08:23] <floam> BenC: so Ubuntu's policy is nothing EXPERIMENTAL?
[08:23] <floam> maybe I'll try to get them to change that flag for 2.6.15, the feature has been there for 9 releases or so
[08:24] <floam> with nothing bad reported that I've seen on lkml at lease
[08:24] <BenC> well, we have some stuff from exp, but I personally I don't like enabling new things from exp without good cause
[08:25] <floam> Idealy I was hoping I could get that enabled, and then I could make a patch to eject that would use it
[08:26] <floam> so that when people unmount volumes through gnome the device would actually do what it's supposed to do (like in windows)
[08:28] <floam> in windows, if you've got a USB device plugged in, before unplugging it you go to some "safely remove hardware" dialog and hit a button, which not only unmounts it but suspends it
[08:29] <floam> some devices wait for the suspend signal before believing that they are "safe to disconnect"
[08:30] <BenC> let me talk to gregkh and see if he thinks its safe enough
[08:30] <BenC> since I don't personally know
[08:32] <floam> he would, he added the feature I think
[08:32] <floam> BenC: thanks :)
[08:33] <BenC> but if he thought it was safe, he wouldn't mark it exp :)
[08:34] <floam> maaaaybe
[08:34] <floam> there are other exp things that are generally agreed upon to be stable
[08:35] <floam> more of a "this is new" flag than "this is broke" sometimes
[10:42] <dilinger> wow
[10:43] <dilinger> permissoins on my breezy box are severly hosed since upgrading to dapper's udev
[10:55] <makx> hehe
[10:55] <makx> may $deity with you dilinger
[11:19] <HrdwrBoB> may you be touched by his noodly appendage
[11:31] <fs> dapper?
[11:31] <fs> ECHAN =)