[12:18] <Valandil> hi Pygi :-)
[12:19] <Pygi> hi hi valandil
[12:21] <Pygi> what's up?
[12:22] <Unfun> I rolled out 40 ubuntu servers on friday.
[12:22] <Unfun> Running in production.
[12:22] <Pygi> hehe, good ;)
[12:22] <Unfun> Replacing debian sarge
[12:23] <Pygi> heh, good
[12:51] <maswan> Unfun: We did 100 last week. :)
[01:02] <Pygi> maswan: good ;)
[01:03] <Pygi> great job in promoting ubuntu server ;)
[01:03] <Pygi> just wait 'till dapper ;)
[01:03] <Pygi> ubuntu server will rock the world ;)
[01:03] <Pygi> hehe
[01:04] <maswan> Well, I'm already running dapper on a workstation
[01:05] <maswan> It's pretty buggy though
[01:05] <Pygi> heh, I know :/
[01:06] <Pygi> I will get better
[01:06] <Pygi> and the server edition won't be like the one in current version
[01:06] <Pygi> it will have much modifications
[01:06] <Pygi> but I can't tell you all, it wouldn't be a suprise then, wouldn't it? ;D
[01:14] <Valandil> Hi all :)
[01:15] <Valandil> sorry, had to carry around baby ;)
[01:17] <Pygi> hehe,np
[01:17] <Valandil> sometimes I hate user-interfaces
[01:18] <Valandil> this crappy 'nice looking of program-output' :-(
[01:18] <Pygi> heh
[01:19] <Valandil> Pygi: You know a clean clearsreen in c?
[01:19] <Valandil> +c
[01:19] <Valandil> I used  printf("\033[2J")
[01:20] <Valandil> but it just 'scrolls up' the console
[01:20] <Pygi> heh
[01:21] <Valandil> I never needed something like this before :(
[01:22] <Valandil> bah - be it as it may, I leave this liek that
[01:23] <Pygi> heh
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[02:34] <troy> the ubuntu brown doesn't look half bad in KDE :P
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[03:28] <Unfun> anyone know what cards raidutil supports for actual controller maintenance?
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[03:41] <Pygi> hi hi
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[07:55] <dim> hiall
[07:55] <Unfun> hi
[07:55] <dim> is there any info anywhere about how the specific server distro is different than normal breezy installed with the server option?
[07:56] <Unfun> i don't think it is different
[07:56] <Unfun> but i could be wrong
[07:56] <dim> hmm
[07:56] <spike> dim: 5.10 won't be any different, differences will come with dapper (devel only atm)
[07:57] <Unfun> whats the eta on dapper?
[07:57] <Unfun> dapper-server that is
[07:58] <spike> depends on what u expect to see in it I guess. ie, I doubt grsec will be included, or things like that
[07:58] <spike> and to me, that won't be really finished untill all that stuff gets in
[07:58] <spike> but afaik april 2006 is the scheduled date for a stable release, not sure what will be in
[08:01] <Pygi> hehe, there will be a *lot* of differences in dapper server
[08:06] <dim> so ubuntu is basically forking its server and desktop distros right now?
[08:06] <Pygi> not actually, it will still be a same project, just with *differences*
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[08:13] <Pygi> matt, welcome ;)
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[09:04] <Pygi> welcome zenrox
[09:47] <neuralis> Pygi: a lot of differences? like what? different kernel configuration, different set of default packages on the cd, and a metapackage.
[09:47] <neuralis> unless there's something else that i don't know about, that's certainly not a lot of differences.
[09:48] <Pygi> neuralis: see the "*" ?? And I ceartinly ain't gonna argue with you *once* again
[09:49] <neuralis> Pygi: yes, the asterisks make it seem like it's an even bigger 'lot' of differences.
[09:50] <neuralis> Pygi: every time i ask about a claim you make, you see it as arguing, but don't answer my question. that's not productive communication.
[09:50] <neuralis> for all practical purposes, other than the different kernel configuration, ubuntu server is much like kubuntu or xubuntu: just a different set of installed packages.
[09:52] <Pygi> ...
[09:56] <neuralis> precisely.
[09:56] <Pygi> k
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[10:00] <Pygi> welcome fabian
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