[12:00] <grabakov> sethk: Yes. Okay. But how? :)
[12:00] <markive> soundray it down work
[12:00] <An_Alias> should I be using the amd64 cd instead?
[12:00] <markive> won't install
[12:00] <will00> hey does anyone know how to access the floppy drive from the live cd? i try to mount it but i get this message "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[12:00] <sethk> grabakov, see the URL in the topic.  The site will tell you how.
[12:00] <soundray> markive, be more precise
[12:00] <markive> i'm not doing something right with all this " make
[12:01] <grabakov> sethk: That's a general support page...
[12:01] <fletch33> erUSUL,  same thing with libtiff.so.3:
[12:01] <soundray> markive, be more specific
[12:01] <markive> i wish it was simple
[12:01] <markive> ok lemme try and install it again
[12:01] <grabakov> sethk: was that a rtfm faux pas? ;)
[12:01] <markive> i'mm pm you with the results
[12:01] <sethk> grabakov, I already told you how to do it.  scroll up and read it again if you didn't get it.
[12:01] <will00> hey does anyone know how to access the floppy drive from the live cd? i try to mount it but i get this message "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" please help!!!!!
[12:02] <grabakov> sethk: All you've asked is if I have a URL, then you said go to the ubuntu support page. How does that tell me how to do it?
[12:02] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:02] <will00> hey does anyone know how to access the floppy drive from the live cd? i try to mount it but i get this message "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" please help!!!!!
[12:02] <sethk> grabakov, that is not all I said.  I gave you detailed instructions before you went to reboot into ubuntu
[12:03] <fletch33> erUSUL,  do you think this is fixable or am i out of luck?
[12:03] <grabakov> sethk: Would you mind pasting them? I don't have the log on hand after all.
[12:03] <soundray> will00, checkout if mtools is installed -- mdir a:
[12:03] <erUSUL> fletch33, well i'm afraid i can not help you further the program was not desgned to run in such a recent distro
[12:03] <will00> ok
[12:03] <markive> soundray you see pm?
[12:03] <soundray> markive, no
[12:04] <markive> pm me
[12:04] <sethk> !pastebot
[12:04] <ubotu> Wish i knew, sethk
[12:04] <sethk> !paste
[12:04] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:04] <An_Alias> so I take it the lack of response means yes?
[12:04] <fletch33> erUSUL,  well i thank you for all your help i guess i am still going to have to use windows for this :(
[12:04] <grabakov> sethk: ohhh...
[12:04] <soundray> I get '[markive]  is away (I'm busy)'
[12:04] <eobanb> An_Alias, what's your question
[12:04] <erUSUL> fletch33, np
[12:04] <soundray> markive, have you got a lot to paste?
[12:04] <grabakov> sethk: okay, I have joined #paste Meet me there?
[12:05] <markive> yup
[12:05] <An_Alias> if the x86 install cd won't work for amibios v 1.19, shouldd I usethe amd64 disk?
[12:05] <An_Alias> *should
[12:05] <eobanb> An_Alias, do you have a 64-bit machine?
[12:05] <soundray> markive, can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:05] <markive> i go to the right dir then i type "make install" yes?
[12:06] <grabakov> sethk: you therE?
[12:06] <soundray> markive, check if there is a README or INSTALL file. There should be instructions in them
[12:06] <will00> soundray: installed mtools what next?
[12:06] <rickest> will00: mdir A:
[12:06] <soundray> will00, mdir a:
[12:06] <will00> ok
[12:06] <will00> as sudo?
[12:06] <markive> its there on paste.ubuntu
[12:06] <sethk> grabakov, ok, I'm in #paste
[12:06] <markive> search markive
[12:07] <An_Alias> ...ok, that makes me feel like a moron
[12:07] <An_Alias> yes...
[12:07] <will00> do i use sudo or root?
[12:07] <rickest> will00: shouldn't need to, no
[12:07] <soundray> will00, just try
[12:07] <will00> ok
[12:07] <soundray> markive, give me a minute, I'll try it here
[12:08] <markive> k
[12:08] <grabakov> sethk: I'm there. :
[12:09] <will00> still getting "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[12:09] <soundray> markive, did you 'sudo apt-get install libbluetooth1-dev'?
[12:09] <newbc> how do you work gtkpod
[12:09] <markive> ahh.. no
[12:10] <eobanb> newbc, plug your ipod in, and if it mounts, open gtkpod and hit Read
[12:10] <Xterm> Hi ...can anyone recommend a printer to use with Ubuntu?
[12:10] <Set> anyone here that owns a Intel Wireless Pro 2200 wlan card? :)
[12:10] <will00> soundray?
[12:10] <markive> soundray done
[12:11] <soundray> will00, yep
[12:11] <Set> Currently running Dapper Flight 2. Problem is, I can't get WPA to work with my Intel Wireless Pro 2200 BG wlan card. The wlan I'm connecting to is not under my command, so I can't change it to WEP. What do I do to get WPA support? (writing this in Windows, as I have no network connectivity in Kubuntu atm)
[12:11] <soundray> markive, now make ; make install
[12:11] <will00> it didn't work
[12:11] <will00> same message
[12:11] <Linuturk> linux is so . . . troublesome
[12:11] <markive> soundray i'll try it
[12:11] <newbc> thanks
[12:11] <crimsun> Set: you need to install wpasupplicant
[12:11] <newbc> what can i do if a program is frozen
[12:11] <soundray> will00, okay then try it with sudo
[12:11] <crimsun> newbc: forcibly kill it (using pkill -9)
[12:11] <KampfCaspar> newbc: kill it with "kill"
[12:12] <newbc> how to i direct the kill statement
[12:12] <Set> crimsun, can I download a deb for it somewhere? :) does it have a man-page?
[12:12] <will00> tried it and still the same message
[12:12] <crimsun> Set: Breezy?
[12:12] <soundray> will00, what message?
[12:12] <markive> soundray still no good
[12:13] <will00> "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[12:13] <crimsun> Set: if you have working Internet access on that computer, just ''sudo aptitude install wpasupplicant''
[12:13] <Set> crimsun, Dapper Flight 2
[12:13] <Set> crimsun, I don't have it, that's the problem.
[12:13] <soundray> will00, maybe your floppy isn't formatted.
[12:13] <crimsun> Set: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/wpasupplicant
[12:13] <soundray> markive, do you want to paste your error again?
[12:13] <will00> formatted three times
[12:13] <markive> ok
[12:14] <soundray> markive, it compiled without a problem here.
[12:14] <soundray> will00, how did you format?
[12:14] <will00> using the floppy formatter
[12:14] <soundray> will00, where's that?
[12:15] <markive> soundray its pasted
[12:15] <will00> applications, system tools
[12:15] <KampfCaspar> Could some apt guru tell me how I can install php4 and php5 modules concurrently (not activate, just install onto disk) without apt removing one or the other at every chance? :(
[12:15] <soundray> will00, sorry, I haven't got a drive myself
[12:15] <Set> crimsun, thanks :) one last question... is the firmware and drivers for Intel Wireless Pro 2200 Bg already in Dapper Flight 2? :)
[12:15] <Xterm> can anyone recommend a printer to use with Ubuntu? maybey one that I could pickup at walmart or somthing..please tell me there is a printer that works with this great new operating system
[12:16] <KampfCaspar> Xterm: Any I have work fine.
[12:16] <soundray> markive, 'sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[12:16] <soundray> '
[12:16] <KampfCaspar> Xterm: Most should work fine...
[12:16] <soundray> markive, do you have a fast connection?
[12:16] <markive> yup
[12:17] <markive> thats done
[12:17] <soundray> markive, download this 9 MB file...
[12:17] <Xterm> KampfCasper...could you give a model example....going to buy one tonight and seen no linux drivers
[12:17] <RedRose> i've accedently deleted /etc/apache2 on my ubuntu system, how do i make a new one with the new configuration files?
[12:17] <goodness> hello... how did I remove the KDE interface ?
[12:17] <markive> ok which one?
[12:17] <goodness> using the terminal
[12:17] <soundray> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Contents-i386.gz
[12:17] <soundray> markive, if i386 is your architecture.
[12:18] <KampfCaspar> Xterm: I have a HPLJ1010 and an OKI 5400c right here at home.
[12:18] <will00> hey does anyone know how to access the floppy drive from the live cd? i try to mount it but i get this message "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[12:18] <RedRose> goodness:apt-get remove KDE
[12:18] <Xterm> thanks
[12:18] <markive> centino 1.7
[12:18] <soundray> markive, i386 is right then.
[12:18] <markive> centrino*
[12:18] <goodness> RedRose, how did I send one screenshot of my system using the KDE interface ?
[12:18] <soundray> markive, you see the line tbear.h:25:21: error: ncurses.h: No such file or directory at the top of what you pasted?
[12:19] <will00> hey does anyone know how to access the floppy drive from the live cd? i try to mount it but i get this message "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" please help!!!!!
[12:19] <soundray> markive, to find that file, you do 'zgrep ncurses.h Contents-i386.gz'
[12:19] <RedRose> ???
[12:19] <RedRose> i've accedently deleted /etc/apache2 on my ubuntu system, how do i make a new one with the new configuration files?
[12:19] <Delvien> !checkinstall
[12:19] <ubotu> checkinstall is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[12:19] <soundray> will00, stop repeating yourself.
[12:19] <markive> ok
[12:19] <goodness> RedRose, by the way, how did I take or put one screenshot of my system ?
[12:20] <soundray> will00, I'm thinking about your prob while I'm helping s.o. else, okay?
[12:20] <will00> k
[12:20] <markive> soundray its here
[12:20] <RedRose> on the GUI, press ptr-scr button, then open a image editing software and press CTRL-V
[12:20] <soundray> markive, the output tells you that the missing package is libncurses5-dev, so that's what we installed.
[12:21] <goodness> I can't remove the KDE
[12:21] <soundray> markive, now you know how to solve this type of problem :)
[12:21] <goodness> apt-get remove KDE
[12:21] <goodness> E: No foi possvel abri arquivo de trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permisso negada)
[12:21] <goodness> E: Impossvel criar lock no diretrio de listas
[12:21] <goodness> leonardo@leonardo-huf08v:~$ sudo apt-get remove KDE
[12:21] <goodness> Password:
[12:21] <goodness> Lendo Lista de Pacotes... Pronto
[12:21] <goodness> Construindo rvore de Dependncias... Pronto
[12:21] <goodness> E: Impossvel achar pacote KDE
[12:21] <soundray> markive, with ncurses-dev in place, try make again.
[12:21] <markive> still on the o 'zgrep ncurses.h Contents-i386.gz' bit
[12:21] <soundray> will00, do you have another floppy you can test it with?
[12:22] <will00> no
[12:22] <dooglus> is there any kind of a "disk monitor" tool that can tell me which process is reading and writing the disk?
[12:22] <goodness> forgotten
[12:22] <markive> zgrep ncurses.h Contents-i386.gz
[12:22] <markive> no such file or dir
[12:23] <soundray> markive, forget that for a minute, try 'make' again
[12:23] <soundray> will00, is your floppy broken by any chance?
[12:23] <dooglus> markive: apt-file search is a better way to find files
[12:23] <will00> no it works fine
[12:23] <markive> soundray  , it did sometinh diffeent, no errors
[12:24] <markive> no make install?
[12:24] <eruin> the recent Linus-induced gnome/kde "battle" has spawned about 99.9% useless, idiotic blabber... arg.
[12:24] <markive> now*
[12:24] <dooglus> markive: apt-file search /ncurses.h | grep 'h$'
[12:24] <soundray> markive, yes do that too
[12:24] <dooglus> markive: it tells me: libncurses5-dev: usr/include/ncurses.h
[12:24] <soundray> dooglus, does that work even if the package isn't installed?
[12:24] <markive> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/tbear': Permission denied
[12:24] <dooglus> soundray: yes.  that's the point.  otherwise you'd use "locate"
[12:25] <dcj028> hey... can anyone help me install java 2 runtime environment for my ubuntu 5.04?
[12:25] <soundray> dooglus, great tip, thanks
[12:25] <dooglus> soundray: you have to install apt-file first, of course, and run "apt-file update" to download the information it needs
[12:25] <soundray> dooglus, okay, so not such a big advantage if you've downloaded Contents-i386 anyway.
[12:26] <dooglus> soundray: I guess not.  except that markive's zgrep didn't find it...
[12:26] <dcj028> i'm having a very difficult time getting my i386 to run any sort of media properly
[12:26] <soundray> dooglus, I guess markive is still in the tbear dir, not in the home dir where he d'l'ed the file to.
[12:26] <dooglus> soundray: oh, I see - he didn't cd to the directory holding the .gz file first...
[12:27] <lysis> dcj028, what kind of media?  how much RAM do you have?
[12:27] <markive> i give in
[12:27] <soundray> markive, sorry, it should be 'sudo make install'
[12:27] <markive> i try again tommorow
[12:28] <soundray> markive, okay you need a wee sleep ;)
[12:28] <markive> ;)
[12:28] <markive> thanks for you effort soundray
[12:28] <soundray> markive, do you want to just try  'sudo make install' before you give up?
[12:29] <markive> k
[12:29] <dcj028> lysis.. plenty 512.... it's the software... iv'e tried installing w32 codecs but unsuccessfully
[12:29] <daiver> Hi... Brand new Ubuntu user here.  I have a couple of simple questions though.  Anyone up for them?
[12:30] <dcj028> do you have a suggestion of where to get instructions to install j2re and a good mp3 player?
[12:30] <markive> soundray that did something  , no errors :S
[12:30] <markive> is it installed?
[12:30] <soundray> markive, yes.
[12:30] <dooglus> daiver: shoot
[12:30] <soundray> markive, try tbear
[12:30] <will00> when i tried to move  the file to the drive by drag&drop it said "Error "Invalid URI" while moving."
[12:30] <markive> its running :D :D
[12:30] <Xappe> dcj028: good mp3-player = beep media player or xmms
[12:30] <dooglus> soundray: "sudo checkinstall" is better.  "sudo make install" isn't easily undone
[12:31] <daiver> First off, how do I mount Windows NTFS hard drives so that I can read and write?  I tried the stuff written in the guide for 5.04, but it seems it didnt work out..  Have two of them, which I think are hda2 and hda3
[12:31] <Nytryx> xappe what?
[12:31] <soundray> dooglus, I heard checkinstall was evil (quote Seveas) :)
[12:31] <Nytryx> nm
[12:31] <Nytryx> i got it
[12:31] <dooglus> daiver: generally, you don't want to write to NTFS from Linux.  It's not very safe.
[12:31] <dcj028> xappe: thanks....
[12:31] <markive> its in terminal
[12:31] <markive> i thought it had a gui
[12:31] <daiver> dooglus: Ok.  So if I want to read?
[12:32] <okih> What was the ubuntu kernal compiled by? I need to know so I can compile my Nvidia driver.
[12:32] <dooglus> soundray: it's less evil than installing with no protection at all.
[12:32] <dooglus> !ntfs
[12:32] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:32] <soundray> dooglus, in any case, I'm learning a lot from you tonight.
[12:32] <soundray> markive, disappointed?
[12:32] <dooglus> daiver: see that link that ubotu just mentioned
[12:32] <daiver> Thanks.
[12:32] <Xappe> Nytryx: ?
[12:32] <markive> i little , i'm just looking wor wifi toys , apps to play with
[12:32] <Nytryx> nevermind i read up alittle
[12:32] <dooglus> soundray: I don't know why checkinstall would be considered evil.  it's always worked well for me.
[12:32] <soundray> markive, cracker tools tend to have cracking interfaces.
[12:33] <markive> just wanted to test the secretity her at home
[12:33] <Delvien> anyone help me with this http://pastebin.com/468437? trying to install emifreq .18
[12:33] <dooglus> daiver: I think people generally use a small FAT partition for transferring stuff back and forth.  Linux can write FAT safely.
[12:33] <dcj028> can anyone tell me what this error message when i open synaptic package manager means?
[12:33] <dcj028> " http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found "
[12:33] <will00> now having error "Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "computer://...20case.ods"."
[12:34] <AMe> hi
[12:34] <soundray> dooglus, where can I find a manpage or similar on checkinstall pls?
[12:34] <dooglus> daiver: alternatively, linux can read NTFS safely, and Windows can read ext3 safely (once you've installed the right program) so you can pull stuff over like that without using FAT
[12:34] <daiver> dooglus: Yeah, problem is that I have all my files, mp3s, mpgs, jpgs, etc. on NTFS drives, sort of like a backup
[12:34] <lysis> dcj028, that means that one of your repositories aren't correct.
[12:34] <AMe> has anyone ever run windows in vmware with ubuntu? wondering how fast it is compared to running windows natively
[12:34] <dcj028> how do i fix that?
[12:34] <markive> lots of stuff i've installed doesn't turn up on the applications button
[12:34] <lysis> dcj028, if you go to the forums you'll find a post that i made (username: lysis) asking for an updated repository list. you'll find that to be accurate.  it goes in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:34] <dooglus> soundray: /usr/share/man/man1/checkinstall.1.gz
[12:34] <dcj028> iv'e checked the repositories before
[12:34] <dooglus> soundray: just "man checkinstall" shows it
[12:34] <AMe> wondering if i should try to dual boot when i install ubuntu
[12:34] <dcj028> can u send me the link to that?
[12:35] <rosen> dcj028, run apt-get update once more
[12:35] <dooglus> soundray: you'll need to install the checkinstall package first
[12:35] <lysis> dcj028, just go to www.ubuntuforums.org and search for threads by my username.
[12:35] <rosen> dooglus, ! hehehe
[12:35] <dcj028> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:35] <dcj028> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:35] <dooglus> rosen: why are you still here?  surely you've learnt everything by now.
[12:35] <soundray> dooglus, thanks -- could have thought of that myself -- sorry bit slow tonight.
[12:35] <dcj028> i get that error message running apt get update
[12:36] <dooglus> dcj028: you'll need to use 'sudo' and also only run one installer at a time
[12:36] <lysis> dcj028, are you running as sudo?
[12:36] <Delvien> anyone help me with this http://pastebin.com/468437? trying to install emifreq .18
[12:36] <lysis> dcj028, make sure SYNAPTIC isn't running too.
[12:36] <rosen> dooglus, hehehe .. actually I've been taking a nap, so ... well I have to give a little back to the community aswell though
[12:36] <markive> i'm going to bed
[12:36] <rosen> dooglus, mainlyI'm just here to help the damn newbs
[12:36] <markive> soundray thanks for your help
[12:36] <lysis> i cannot believe that i installed ubuntu only a month ago and i'm already able to help people in the forums. lol
[12:37] <dcj028> yes
[12:37] <soundray> markive, cheers
[12:37] <markive> soundray what do you use to muck about with wireless?
[12:37] <soundray> markive, I never muck about :)
[12:37] <disposable> i've set root password through chroot-ing into my newly istalled ubuntu. it works everywhere apart from gksu. everytime i run something from System -> Preferences and it asks for a password, it rejects it as a wrong one. if i run those utilities from a termnal logged it as a root, it works. how do i make gksu work?
[12:37] <daiver> dooglus: that link worked.  I hope it automounts every time I reboot.  Do you know?
[12:37] <markive> ;)
[12:37] <corresponder> iwconfig
[12:37] <lysis> dcj028, try to put somebody's name in front of your response so we know who you're talking to.  it's definitely quite busy and more than one person might try to help you.
[12:37] <corresponder> wireless-tools
[12:38] <markive> see you tommorow matey
[12:38] <dooglus> daiver: if it involved editing /etc/fstab then it's possible...  if it just involved running 'mount' then it won't.
[12:38] <soundray> markive, see you around.
[12:38] <lysis> dcj028, if you type lys and then press the TAB button on the keyboard it'll auto-complete my name and put a comma; like i've done with you. :)
[12:38] <dcj028> lysis, that's perfect thanks
[12:38] <dcj028> lysis,  I still cant find your post about the repositories
[12:39] <Hyperlink> Alrighty, I've got a question. I posted this on the Ubuntu forum yesterday and got no reply.
[12:39] <lysis> dcj028, no problem at all.  it also flashes on people's toolbars if we're multi-tasking. ha.   i'll find the post and PM it to you.
[12:39] <dcj028> dooglus, can you help me understand what it means to run one sudo at a time?
[12:39] <Hyperlink> I can play audio just fine. I can play video just fine. However, when I'm playing a video there is never any audio alongside it. I've played multiple files and filetypes (avi, mpeg) with multiple media players (Totem, VLC, etc) and yet I still see people talking and no voices.
[12:39] <Hyperlink> This isn't a blanket audio problem. I can play mp3s, flacs, even with the same programs. It's just that when I'm playing a video there isn't any audio, nomatter which player I use.
[12:39] <daiver> dooglus: I had to download fstab, copy a couple of commands and then remove it... I didn't run any mount or editing that file..
[12:39] <dcj028> lysis, that'd be teriffic...
[12:39] <dooglus> dcj028: I mean you shouldn't run synaptic and apt-get at the same time.  they both install packages.
[12:39] <soundray> will00, how are you getting on?
[12:39] <will00> still not working
[12:39] <soundray> will00, sorry I got caught up in the other action.
[12:39] <dcj028> lysis,  i can't explain it because when i put the mouse over a mp3 file it plays .. then stops when i take the mouse off of it
[12:40] <dooglus> daiver: I guess I should just take a look at that link I recommended to you and see what it says :)
[12:40] <dooglus> daiver: or you could just reboot...
[12:40] <lysis> hmmm . . .
[12:40] <soundray> will00, are you still on the live CD?
[12:40] <crimsun> Hyperlink: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:40] <crimsun> Hyperlink: then give me the url
[12:40] <dcj028> so i'm assuming the codecs are installed somewhere in the GNOME setup.. but it's confused me
[12:40] <lysis> dcj028, what kind of audio card are you using?
[12:40] <daiver> dooglus: I'll reboot and be back.  Thanks
[12:40] <dcj028> dooglus,  thanks, ya i figured that out
[12:40] <will00> getting this "Error "Invalid URI" while moving."
[12:40] <dooglus> anyone know if it's possible to search back in irssi?  I want to find what ubotu said about ntfs without asking again
[12:40] <will00> and yes on the live cd
[12:40] <lysis> dcj028, mp3 playback codecs are NOT included with ubuntu. it's a legality issue i guess.
[12:40] <Hyperlink> crimsun: what is amixer?
[12:41] <dcj028> lysis, it's an hp laptop... relatively new... a soundblaster derivitive of some sort
[12:41] <dcj028> lysis,  ya that's bs if u ask me
[12:41] <soundray> will00, is there no alternative to using the floppy?
[12:41] <juan_> How Can i get a program that execute .exe
[12:41] <will00> nope
[12:41] <juan_> I use Ubuntu
[12:41] <rosen> juan_, Wine ?
[12:41] <lysis> dcj028, would you be able to get the exact model of your laptop to me?     i'll look and see what sound you're using.
[12:42] <soundray> will00, do you know about fdformat?
[12:42] <will00> no
[12:42] <lysis> dcj028, i've noticed that laptops have a VERY hard time working in linux (and i've heard horror stories of ubuntu)         all can be solved.  it will just take some work. :)
[12:42] <daiver> dooglus, be back in a sec.  I'll reboot
[12:42] <Hyperlink> what is amixer?
[12:42] <soundray> will00, your floppy is 3.5 inch 1.44 MB, correct?
[12:42] <will00> yes
[12:43] <Hyperlink> oh
[12:43] <Hyperlink> I've got it
[12:43] <Hyperlink> just a sec crimsun
[12:43] <dcj028> lysis,  YA i noticed
[12:43] <rosen> ubotu, tell juan_ about Wine
[12:43] <soundray> will00, in a terminal, enter 'sudo fdformat /dev/fd0H1440'.
[12:43] <juan_> ok
[12:43] <will00> ok
[12:43] <soundray> will00, this will format and verify your floppy.
[12:43] <juan_> How can i get WINe
[12:43] <dcj028> lysis, but also.. i noticed the system you're running, it's very similiar to mine.. i do have more ram and a bigger HD ;) ... as for the repos.. how would i go about installing the source code listed in the forum?
[12:44] <rosen> juan_, you got a message from Ubotu telling you how :)
[12:44] <will00> no such file or directory
[12:44] <lysis> dcj028, how'd you find out what system i'm running?  *laughs*   i AM using a desktop computer btw. :)
[12:44] <soundray> will00, 'sudo fdformat /dev/fd0' ?
[12:44] <dcj028> lys x1010 US
[12:44] <chriscwkx> hi guys, I asked this question earlier but had to leave during responses - but when I open beep media player from the menu (not as sudo) it will not open. If I run it from the terminal, it wont open. But if I run it as sudo from the terminal, it will open. Any ideas how to get it opening correctly?
[12:45] <dcj028> HP/Compaq
[12:45] <juan_> I no
[12:45] <dcj028> it says on the forum
[12:45] <juan_> no
[12:45] <will00> its working
[12:45] <lysis> oh yea! lol.   *slaps forehead*   been a long afternoon my friend.
[12:45] <dcj028> lys it says on the forum haha... HP/Compaq x1010US
[12:45] <lysis> i'll look that up.
[12:45] <dooglus> chriscwkx: you probably need to add yourself to the audio group
[12:45] <everton137> Hi, I'm not succeding in upload my photos using gtkam. I've a hub-USB and  when I try add my camera I receive a message saying my device wan't recognized.  What do I do? thanks.
[12:45] <juan_> Rosen,,, What is Crossover.. is the same
[12:45] <dcj028> lys OHH nm.. that's hymntolife
[12:45] <chriscwkx> dooglus: ohh, didn't think of that - ok will try
[12:45] <soundray> will00, okay, if it fails, we blame the floppy, not us.
[12:45] <dooglus> chriscwkx: what do you see if you type "groups" in a terminal?
[12:46] <will00> ok
[12:46] <lysis> dcj028, hymntolife?   i'm sorry i don't know what you mean?
[12:46] <chriscwkx> apparently I am in an audio group, according to terminal:
[12:46] <chriscwkx> chris@cwkx:~$ groups
[12:46] <chriscwkx> chris adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:47] <dooglus> chriscwkx: so - what happens if you run "beep-media-player" in a terminal?
[12:47] <rosen> juan_, I guess you could use that expression about that, but I'm not sure... I've only used linux ~a week and there's alot of terms I'm not familiar with yet
[12:47] <rosen> !crossover
[12:47] <ubotu> rosen: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:47] <chriscwkx> it doesn't open
[12:47] <dooglus> chriscwkx: any error messages?
[12:47] <chriscwkx> but sudo beep-media-player does
[12:47] <soundray> will00, if it succeeds, the next thing to do is 'sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy ; sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy'
[12:47] <Hyperlink> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5862 that's my amixer
[12:47] <chriscwkx> no erros without sudo, just a new line
[12:47] <dcj028> lysis,  nm
[12:47] <dooglus> chriscwkx: what if you run "xclock" from a terminal?  will that open?
[12:47] <jdmpike> ubotu dvd playback
[12:47] <ubotu> jdmpike: Syntax error in line 1
[12:48] <chriscwkx> yep that opens
[12:48] <jdmpike> anyone have the link for dvd playback in ubuntu
[12:48] <dooglus> chriscwkx: so it's not a problem with you X11 environment variables.  hmmm.
[12:48] <jdmpike> I just compiled libdvdcss2 1.2.8 and it installed
[12:48] <lysis> dcj028, it appears taht in WINDOWS you are to use an "ADI Soundmax Audio Driver" which doesn't appear to be creative.  i'm unsure that this chipset will be supported.  i'm still trying to find tech specs on it.
[12:48] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, i just got back to this, i have the G122 thats hardware version A2 - its a prisim chip not rt
[12:48] <dooglus> chriscwkx: what if you "mv ~/.bmp ~/.bmp.dis" first?
[12:48] <chriscwkx> hehe, thanks so far
[12:48] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, that should be just as well
[12:49] <will00> it says specify fylesystem type
[12:49] <daiver> seen dooglus
[12:49] <will00> filesystem type
[12:49] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, think you can help me finding a non-ndiswrapper driver for a prisim chip?
[12:49] <dooglus> right here, d00d
[12:49] <chriscwkx> hum? im not that experienced - shall I type mv ~/.bmp ~/.bmp.dis ?
[12:49] <dooglus> chriscwkx: yes
[12:49] <soundray> will00,  'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy'
[12:49] <daiver> hehe, couldnt find you on the list
[12:49] <chriscwkx> well a new line, I take it that it did something
[12:49] <daiver> dooglus: it worked!  However, my Ubuntu takes forever to boot for some reason..
[12:49] <dooglus> chriscwkx: use nautilus if you like.  I'm just renaming the .bmp directory in your home directory to something which beep-m-p won't find
[12:49] <jdmpike> anyone help with dvd playback?
[12:49] <lysis> wow . . . moving the sub away from the wall an inch or two can make all the difference . . .
[12:50] <Hyperlink> Can anyone help me with my audio problem? I think Crimsun died.
[12:50] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, Prism54
[12:50] <crimsun> Hyperlink: eh?
[12:50] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, prism (not prisim) was one of the first chipsets with a native driver. You should have no trouble finding it.
[12:50] <Hyperlink> Or maybe not :O
[12:50] <Hyperlink> I pasted that stuff mang :-)
[12:50] <chriscwkx> well nothings changed after trying bmp from the menu
[12:50] <dooglus> daiver: ~/.bmp is a folder which stores your personal settings for beep-media-player.  something got messed up in there.
[12:50] <crimsun> Hyperlink: you need to prefix every line with my nick, because I'm in approximately 70 irc channels
[12:50] <chriscwkx> it still doesn't open
[12:50] <Chris_Tucker> ok soundray
[12:50] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, 'locate prism54' !
[12:50] <dooglus> daiver: what point is it hanging at?
[12:50] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, :)
[12:50] <Hyperlink> crimsun: understood
[12:50] <hmpedersen> crimsun, you too?
[12:50] <dooglus> chriscwkx: oh, it doesn't?
[12:51] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, wow
[12:51] <lysis> dcj028, your HP laptop is using either a proprietary or a generic sound driver.  either way; that doesn't look good.   do something for me.  go to System, Preferences, Multimedia Selector
[12:51] <Hyperlink> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5862
[12:51] <Mulder> my grub is installed on the superblock of what used to be sda3. i created a partition using windows's disk manager last night. it renumbered the partition table. on boot, grub is loaded, but the menu.lst no longer loads. i think windows might've messed up the superblock data. i'm wondering what's the least painful way to fix this so the grub menu loads again
[12:51] <chriscwkx> nope.. humm
[12:51] <daiver> dooglus: it starts booting and it hangs in the text screen when it says "Uncompressing Linux"... Doesn't sound right for some reason.  It happened before I did the mount thing, so it's not related.
[12:51] <lysis> dcj028, make sure that your audio OUTPUT is set to ALSA.     alsa supports multiple output the best.
[12:51] <dooglus> daiver: I've not seen that before.  or heard of it.  sorry!
[12:51] <soundray> will00, did it work? 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy'
[12:51] <Chris_Tucker> then, soundray how come the device doesnt show up when i connect it, it doesnt show up in the network dialog?
[12:51] <lysis> dcj028, also make sure you get all those codecs installed properly.   that link i sent you will take care of EVERYTHING you would need.
[12:52] <will00> still working
[12:52] <soundray> will00, on the format?
[12:52] <dooglus> chriscwkx: what do you see if you run "ls -d ~/.bmp*" ?
[12:52] <disposable> where do i download single .deb packages?
[12:52] <crimsun> Hyperlink: sec
[12:52] <daiver> dooglus: no problem.  Another thing... I have an Nvidia GeForce FX5200.  Display is fine, but I've heard that I need other drivers to get it 100% right.  Is this true?
[12:52] <will00> still working (slow computer)
[12:52] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, oh...
[12:52] <Hyperlink> crimsun: k
[12:52] <dooglus> disposable: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <chriscwkx> chris@cwkx:~$ ls -d ~/.bmp*
[12:52] <disposable> dooglus: tnx
[12:52] <chriscwkx> /home/chris/.bmp  /home/chris/.bmp.dis
[12:52] <will00> it worked
[12:52] <lukins> disposable packages.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <jdmpike> WHHHHYYYYYY can't I play DVDs?!?!?!?!?
[12:52] <dooglus> daiver: I wish I had a nice graphics card...  no idea, sorry.
[12:53] <lysis> jdmpike, have you ever been able to?
[12:53] <lysis> dooglus, you want one? :)
[12:53] <jdmpike> lysis, not in ubuntu
[12:53] <crimsun> Hyperlink: do you actually need the Headphone Jack Sense and Line Jack Sense elements unmuted?
[12:53] <jdmpike> lysis, in winbl0ws yes
[12:53] <dooglus> chriscwkx: ok, so the 'mv' worked.  the .bmp.dis is the old one, and beep-media-player made it again when you tried running it again
[12:53] <lysis> jdmpike, want to give me some quick specs of your computer system?  also, what program are you trying to use?
[12:53] <daiver> dooglus: Thats ok.  How about codecs?  How do I install mp3, xvid, divx, etc. codecs?  Is there an all-in-one that does this?
[12:53] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, do you get any error messages if you run tail -f /var/log/messages while you plug?
[12:53] <dooglus> lysis: yes, but...  I'm on a laptop, so I'm a bit limited...
[12:53] <jdmpike> lysis, 1.5 Ghz P4-M, 1GB mem,
[12:54] <chriscwkx> hehe I don't get it, do you think reinstalling via synaptic is a good idea to try?
[12:54] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Probably not. I'm just using speakers. I haven't really messed with that stuff. Default breezy install.
[12:54] <jdmpike> lysis, trying to run totem, gxine, or vlc
[12:54] <lysis> dooglus, with the right amount of duct tape i can make anything happen for ya buddy. :)
[12:54] <Mulder> am i able to use the live cd or the install cd, and pass something like linux root=/dev/myroot?
[12:54] <soundray> will00, oops, almost missed it.
[12:54] <dooglus> daiver: there's a page on the wiki called "RestrictedFormats".  watch ubotu:
[12:54] <dooglus> !mp3
[12:54] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:54] <jdmpike> lysis, none work!!!
[12:54] <lysis> jdmpike, have you installed any codecs?
[12:54] <Mulder> i've only done this with lilo before not grub
[12:54] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, nope
[12:54] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I HAVE sound though
[12:54] <daiver> dooglus: thanks!
[12:54] <Hyperlink> crimsun: just not sound that goes along with avi and mpeg
[12:54] <soundray> will00, it helps if you put 'soundray' in your posts, because it gets highlighted for me then.
[12:54] <ProN00b> mp3 is a restricted format ?
[12:54] <lysis> jdmpike, i use Totem-xine btw.  i got it from Synaptic.
[12:54] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, and lsusb shows Bus 003 Device 009: ID 2001:3704 D-Link Corp. [hex] 
[12:54] <dooglus> chriscwkx: almost certainly won't help.
[12:54] <eruin> gaim 2.0 beta is out! ;D
[12:54] <ProN00b> yeah, right...
[12:55] <chriscwkx> ah ok
[12:55] <lysis> ProN00b, yes it is unfortunately.     it's a NOT FREE codec for the USA.
[12:55] <jdmpike> lysis, I just built libdvdcss-1.2.8 from source, it is in /usr/local/lib
[12:55] <lysis> basically you just have to pay for it.
[12:55] <Mulder> eruin, about bloody time eh
[12:55] <crimsun> Hyperlink: I know, I'm asking if toggling those changes anything. There are known quirks with your symptoms on certain chipsets.
[12:55] <eruin> aye!
[12:55] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, this is the same problem as with my Belkin that I mentioned. I haven't been able to solve it yet.
[12:55] <cafuego> !test
[12:55] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[12:55] <amikron> byez all
[12:55] <eruin> Mulder, on the same note, sourceforge.net has been beautified!
[12:55] <ProN00b> lysis, who cars about the usa anyway, i wouldn't make my software free for them either !
[12:55] <Hyperlink> crimsun: How would I toggle those? I'm pretty much a newbie.
[12:55] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, that sucks
[12:55] <lysis> ProN00b, that's not nice.  i'm IN the usa.  lol!!
[12:56] <ProN00b> most non suckers don't come from the us
[12:56] <Chris_Tucker> well then soundray i wish us both luck
[12:56] <ProN00b> wtf, -non
[12:56] <ProN00b> *_*
[12:56] <soundray> will00, you should now be able to copy your file to the floppy with 'cp file.ods /mnt/floppy'
[12:56] <crimsun> Hyperlink: open a Terminal, then, amixer sset 'Headphone Jack Sense' off
[12:56] <will00> ok
[12:56] <soundray> will00, do a 'sync' afterwards to flush the buffer.
[12:56] <chriscwkx> hummm, any other ideas? I was hoping to use it instead of xmms - the right click theme was really ugly and I just wanted more consistency when showing breezy to friends
[12:56] <dufur> anyone had any luck with elo touchscreen and ubuntu?
[12:56] <will00> i was just about to ask the command
[12:57] <Hyperlink> crimsun: did that
[12:57] <eruin> if I have to listen to another "{kde,gnome,usa,europe,people-in-general,everything} sucks" discussion, I'll fall over and die
[12:57] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Should I see if I get sound with video now?
[12:57] <crimsun> Hyperlink: yes
[12:57] <Hyperlink> crimsun: OK. I'll get back to you.
[12:57] <will00> thanks
[12:57] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, i'll be at it off and on all night (decorating for christmas here) so if i make anything work i'll let you know
[12:58] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, I'll appreciate it.
[12:58] <lukins> does anyone know if external dvd burners work with ubuntu out of the box?
[12:58] <scottb> anyone know why some apps (e.g. rapidsvn) has a different font than normal ubuntu apps?
[12:58] <LjL> scottb: not used that one, so it's a guess, but it might be because they're using gtk 1.2 or qt
[12:58] <kdanielk> hi there
[12:59] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, not sure if this is relevant, but I heard today that hotplug is being dropped from Ubuntu and replaced with udev.
[12:59] <kdanielk> i tried to install php with adept...
[12:59] <eruin> wxgtk to be exact
[12:59] <kdanielk> and it dindt work
[12:59] <scottb> LjL: makes sense.  is there a way i can tell?  or what apps have you seen the same thing in?
[12:59] <Hyperlink> crimsun: still no sound
[12:59] <kdanielk> can some one answer a few questions
[12:59] <will00> does anyone know what the best way to set up a dual hard disk system so they mirror each other exactly and are not shared?
[12:59] <crimsun> Hyperlink: ok, then revert the change you just made
[12:59] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, hotplug may be the problem, and udev may be the solution... of course that's speculation.
[12:59] <eruin> scottb, you could take a look at the package's dependencies via synaptic (which states wxgtk as the toolkit)
[12:59] <crimsun> Hyperlink: next I'll need strace output from your video player of choice as you test
[12:59] <will00> (feel free to pm me)
[01:00] <lukins> will00 sounds like a raid setup but ive never done it
[01:00] <crimsun> Hyperlink: strace -o debug.txt -fF $somePlayer
[01:00] <Hyperlink> crimsun: amixer sset 'Headphone Jack Sense' on ?
[01:00] <chriscwkx> dooglus: can I delete /home/chris/.bmp ?
[01:00] <LjL> scottb: VLC, for example.
[01:00] <scottb> eruin: i'll check.  thx.
[01:00] <soundray> will00, this is called RAID-1. There are howto docs on the web.
[01:00] <eruin> will00, very unrealistic without raid.. look that up ;)
[01:00] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, dunno, never used udev before... but i'll keep at it with good ole hotplug
[01:00] <will00> ok
[01:00] <scottb> LjL: i'll check vlc, hopefully i see the same font type.
[01:01] <crimsun> Hyperlink: yep
[01:01] <will00> thanks
[01:01] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I entered "strace -o debug.txt -fF vlc" into the terminal. It brought vlc to the foreground.
[01:01] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, im away now for a few, /msg me from here on in, if you cant, you'll need to have your nick registered to /msg on this network though, if you havent, /msg nickserv help register
[01:01] <kdanielk> anyone here using 5.10 apache and php
[01:01] <kdanielk> ???
[01:01] <kdanielk> please
[01:02] <LjL> scottb: you can check with "apt-cache show <packagename>". if you see "gtk1.2" or "qt" among the dependencies....
[01:02] <Hyperlink> crimsun: That's for assisting me, crimsun.
[01:02] <Hyperlink> crimsun: er, thanks
[01:02] <soundray> Okay Chris_Tucker, thanks
[01:02] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, I'm off soon anyway
[01:03] <Mulder> gaim-vv didnt makeiit to gaim2b1 it seems
[01:03] <ckrueger> hmmm
[01:03] <ckrueger> i'm running kernel 2.6.12
[01:03] <ckrueger> but the sources are not in apt
[01:04] <scottb> LjL: i see wxgtk2.4-1, i guess this is what is causing it.  makes sense.  there's no workaround i guess?
[01:04] <ckrueger> which is a bit of a problem
[01:04] <ckrueger> the sources only go to 2.6.11
[01:04] <ckrueger> where can i obtain the 2.6.12 ubuntu sources?
[01:04] <Hyperlink> crimsun: ready for the next step
[01:04] <corresponder> i guess the y call them linux-2.6.12
[01:04] <corresponder> -sources
[01:05] <LjL> scottb: sort of. get gtk-theme-switch
[01:05] <Hyperlink> !whois
[01:05] <ubotu> Hyperlink: Are you on ritalin?
[01:06] <Hyperlink> ubotu: No.
[01:06] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[01:06] <mark105> i have a problem, my postfix is messing up its dns stuff because it seems to be ignoring my /etc/hosts file
[01:06] <gimmulf> best mp4 video player?
[01:06] <nadira> hi i have problems with locales i gett these errors everytime i do something with apt-getperl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[01:06] <nadira> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[01:06] <nadira>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[01:06] <nadira>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[01:06] <nadira>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[01:06] <crimsun> Hyperlink: bzip2 the debug file and post it on the Web somewhere
[01:06] <nadira> 
[01:06] <ala> Hi, earlier I talked about a network problem (eth0 and DHCP). After fooling around with the order in which startup scripts are executed, I ended up making /etc/init.d/hotplug-net NOT EXECUTABLE. I don't exactly know what I am missing out on now, but everything seems to work as it should now. Just thought I'd provide this feedback/input
[01:06] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Where did it put that debug file?
[01:07] <nadira> now iam not even able to run gcc
[01:07] <crimsun> Hyperlink: wherever you were
[01:07] <Hyperlink> crimsun: k
[01:07] <soundray> nadira, have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'?
[01:07] <nadira> i think i made a mistake by removing locales and tried to gett the package again. which couldnt be installed because of glibc-xx stuff has to be installed
[01:08] <nadira> yes soundray i tried sudo dpkg ...
[01:08] <rikai> err, anyone know where i can get some ubuntu compatible debs of the newest linphone?
[01:08] <soundray> nadira, if the package is still cached, it may help to do 'dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_*'
[01:08] <Telep> my scroll wheel just suddenly stopped working, has this happened to anyone?
[01:09] <mark105> i have a problem, my postfix is messing up its dns stuff because it seems to be ignoring my /etc/hosts file, need help to fix it?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> only after my dog chewed on the cable.
[01:09] <hmpedersen> Right.. If you have hoary installed, and plugin breezy cd.. Someone said, it would automatically start updating.. Is this correct?
[01:09] <hmpedersen> and dont ask me who said that.. Its been hours now, i cant remember that far back..
[01:09] <soundray> hmpedersen, I would hope not...
[01:09] <gimmulf> best mp4 video player?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> ive never heard of uch a feature.
[01:09] <Knowerrors> Can someone help with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=583683#post583683 please?
[01:10] <wims> when i log on to my local irc server i have a really silly ip (wims@ubuntu.10.0.0.138) , how can i change it?
[01:10] <gimmulf> !mp4
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,  try vlc. mplayer and xine. :P tht covers them all.
[01:10] <ubotu> gimmulf: Not a clue
[01:10] <hmpedersen> right.. is there a way to update from cd??
[01:10] <soundray> hmpedersen, that's just the kind of nanny OS behavior that made me give up Windows years ago...
[01:10] <Hyperlink> What's a good temp upload site?
[01:10] <nadira> i gott this error message soundray dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_* (--install):
[01:10] <nadira>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:11] <soundray> nadira, it's not cached then. What does 'apt-get -f install' give you?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> NannyLinux :P
[01:11] <lucasvo> nadira: apt-get clean
[01:11] <soundray> lucasvo, what's that supposed to be good for?
[01:12] <nadira> soundray The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:12] <nadira>   locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14
[01:12] <soundray> nadira, are you on hoary?
[01:12] <nadira> yes
[01:13] <hmpedersen> ahh
[01:13] <lucasvo> soundray: if you got a messed up /var/cache/apt/archives you can clean it
[01:13] <dooglus> breezy locked up on my laptop 20 minutes ago.  it's still locked up now.
[01:13] <hmpedersen> "Ubuntu CD Detected - You can automatically upgrade from it, start the package manager application or cancel"
[01:13] <dooglus> I can ssh in OK, although it's a big sluggish
[01:13] <soundray> lucasvo, it is not messed up. Please don't create false impressions.
[01:13] <dooglus> but on the terminal itself I can't even ctrl-alt-F1
[01:14] <dooglus> this is the 4th night in a row that this happened, just after midnight.  but the last 3 times it came back after 5 or 10 minutes.
[01:14] <GudBau> server irc.tin.it
[01:14] <nadira> so what else can i do to fix this problem.
[01:14] <nadira> now iam not even able to install locales
[01:14] <soundray> nadira, what happens when you 'sudo apt-get install locales'?
[01:15] <funkyHat> dooglus, does it work ok after killing X?
[01:15] <AMe> Anyone ever run VMWARE?
[01:15] <funkyHat> AMe, used to, why?
[01:15] <nadira> this happens soundray: Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[01:15] <nadira> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[01:15] <nadira> that package should be filed.
[01:15] <nadira> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[01:15] <nadira> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:15] <nadira>   locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14
[01:15] <nadira> E: Broken packages
[01:15] <Hyperlink> crimsun: get debug.txt.bz2 from http://esnips.com/web/andrewrsm-stuff
[01:15] <AMe> wondering how much slower it would be to run windows in vmware with linux rather than running windows natively
[01:15] <hmpedersen> Ubuntu crashed during upgrade..
[01:15] <AMe> i'm guessing not much
[01:16] <hmpedersen> So..
[01:16] <dooglus> funkyHat: I expect it would.  but I don't want to have to kill X every day!
[01:16] <hmpedersen> This means, there is no way for me to run any usefull OS on my pc..
[01:16] <hmpedersen> Only redhat, xandros and windows will run..
[01:16] <soundray> nadira, have you done an 'apt-get update' recently?
[01:16] <dooglus> funkyHat: checking 'top' shows that it's doing the daily md5sum check, but that started 5 minutes after the system froze.
[01:16] <kaminix> Is there some sort of 20dB boost in Alsa?
[01:17] <kaminix> My mikevolume is REALLY low.
[01:17] <techrush> alsamixergui
[01:17] <Hyperlink> crimsun: get debug.txt.bz2 from http://esnips.com/web/andrewrsm-stuff
[01:17] <nadira> soundray any suggestions?
[01:17] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[01:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:18] <soundray> nadira, have you done an 'apt-get update' recently?
[01:18] <theblue> Hi all.
[01:18] <corresponder> hi
[01:18] <nadira> i have just done that
[01:18] <wims> when i log on to my local irc server i have a really silly ip (ubuntu.10.0.0.138) , how can i change it?
[01:18] <crimsun> Hyperlink: that file is imparsable
[01:19] <soundray> nadira, okay, 'sudo apt-get -f install' again?
[01:19] <soundray> nadira, same error?
[01:19] <Hyperlink> crimsun: ....
[01:19] <nadira> yes soundray, same error
[01:19] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I'll upload somewhere esle
[01:20] <dooglus> chriscwkx: sorry.  breezy locked up on me.
[01:21] <rikai> Anyone know where i can get some ubuntu compatible debs of the newest linphone?
[01:21] <dooglus> chriscwkx: you can delete it, yes:  rm -fr ~/.bmp
[01:21] <chriscwkx> dooglus: hey, its ok - im not sure why, but when I relogged in its now working
[01:21] <rikai> or ow i can build hem form source?
[01:21] <rikai> *from
[01:21] <chriscwkx> from the menu
[01:21] <ubuntu> hey guy!
[01:21] <dooglus> chriscwkx: if you already had it running then that would explain things...
[01:21] <chriscwkx> but its still only going from sudo *checks*
[01:21] <hmpedersen> It appears, my pc just doesnt like ubuntu
[01:22] <funkyHat> hmm
[01:22] <dooglus> chriscwkx: run it in one terminal, then try running it in another...  the 2nd copy will exit quietly, just like you were seeing
[01:22] <funkyHat> should xchat run more than one process?
[01:22] <nadira> soundray still following packages have unmet dependencies locales: depends glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14
[01:22] <rikai> whats chriscwkx trying to troubleshoot?
[01:22] <dooglus> funkyHat: safest is when it runs none at all.
[01:22] <soundray> nadira, how about 'sudo apt-get install glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14"
[01:22] <funkyHat> dooglus, :P
[01:23] <nadira> tried that
[01:23] <dooglus> rikai: he was trying to run beep-media-player and nothing was happening.  I'm guessing it was on a different desktop already.
[01:23] <Knowerror> Who do I talk to for channel admin?
[01:23] <dooglus> !op
[01:23] <ubotu> dooglus: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:23] <dooglus> !ops
[01:23] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:23] <chriscwkx> dooglus: damn, I took the sudo command out (like it should be) and its not running again
[01:23] <Seveas> dooglus, ?
[01:23] <dooglus> chriscwkx: what do you see if you "ps -ef | grep beep" ?
[01:23] <chriscwkx> doolus: but is it safe to run it with sudo?
[01:23] <rikai> dooglus, heh, he could always try bmpx, or ask the guys over in #bmp
[01:23] <Seveas> Knowerror, 'sup?
[01:23] <rikai> they're really nice ;)
[01:23] <Amaranth> dooglus: ?
[01:23] <nadira> it is selecting libc6 instead of glibc. and libc6 is the newest soundray.
[01:23] <dooglus> Knowerror: Seveas will do :)
[01:23] <chriscwkx> chris     9421     1  0 00:17 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[01:23] <chriscwkx> chris    10019 10008  0 00:24 pts/0    00:00:00 grep beep
[01:24] <funkyHat> dooglus, it could be because previous sessions haven't stopped when my ssh tunnel has died or something, I was just wondering
[01:24] <dooglus> ops, Knowerror was asking who admins this channel
[01:24] <Seveas> Amaranth, false alarm, no emergency :)
[01:24] <Knowerror> Seveas: hey, thx, My username Knowerrors is registered... I logged on then got disconnecte, now I can't log in with that username
[01:24] <dooglus> chriscwkx: so it's not already running then.
[01:24] <Seveas> dooglus, in the future, let people use /cs access #ubuntu list
[01:24] <Hyperlink> crimsun taostrategos.com/temp01/debug.txt.bz2
[01:24] <chriscwkx> yeah - and its not opening again either... :P
[01:24] <rikai> er, is there some way i can compile source into a deb, so i can easily uninstall it later via synaptic?
[01:24] <Seveas> Knowerror, read the freenode faq
[01:25] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Let me know if that doesn't work either...
[01:25] <Seveas> or /msg nickserv help
[01:25] <crimsun> Hyperlink: requires authorization
[01:25] <soundray> nadira, okay, clearly if libc6 is installed, locales has no reason to complain about dependencies.
[01:25] <chriscwkx> dooglus: I don't get why sudo makes it run - why does it need root privileges?
[01:25] <Hyperlink> crimsun: usr: linkrjh pass: pararescue1
[01:26] <dooglus> chriscwkx: it shouldn't
[01:26] <chriscwkx> odd
[01:26] <Seveas> Hyperlink, passwords in the channel are a bad idea.
[01:26] <soundray> nadira, what I would suggest is to download the locales package and force install it:
[01:26] <Hyperlink> seveas: it isn't a secure area.
[01:26] <dooglus> chriscwkx: you know how my machine locked up about 30 minutes ago?  well, I just managed to unlock it...  by ssh'ing in and...  killing beep-media-player!
[01:26] <chriscwkx> heheh :P it's cursed!
[01:26] <soundray> nadira: 'dpkg --force-depends locales_*.deb'
[01:26] <Hyperlink> Seveas: You can all go and download my debug files if you really want.
[01:26] <nadira> i am trying the following sudo apt-get source locales
[01:27] <dooglus> chriscwkx: when the machine locked up, I was testing "strace beep-media-player" to ask you do run that command and send me the output.  but it locked my machine up hard :)
[01:27] <soundray> nadira, no, you don't want to compile your own locales pacakge.
[01:27] <soundray> *package
[01:27] <Myrtti> I've managed to bork my system with Rhythmbox and XMMS is playing around with the kernel, so I'm trying out bmp. I hope it doesn't do the same as dooglus's ;-)
[01:27] <chriscwkx> nasty, I feel kinda guilty for making you try it..!
[01:27] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Is it safe to assume you were about to get the file?
[01:28] <ala> Hi, If anyone has a suggestion for the following problem, I am all ears. I have a Diamond RIO500 mp3 player (an antique I know). Installing the "rio500" package makes everything work like a charm. Fantastic! However. As soon as I reboot, this does not work anymore and I resort to removing/installing the package again. The problem seems to be that the directory /dev/usb does not exist (anymore). Any suggestions please?
[01:28] <nadira> it gave me glibc_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.diff.gz package
[01:28] <dooglus> chriscwkx: I wouldn't worry.  I'll probably end up tracking down the bug and reporting it.  Only for the fuckwit developers to tell me it's not a bug after all :)
[01:28] <crimsun> Hyperlink: no, I lacked authorization as I previously stated
[01:28] <soundray> nadira, that won't be any help.
[01:28] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I sent you a username as password you could use.
[01:28] <Myrtti> you need to mount it
[01:28] <Hyperlink> crimsun: If you would rather not use a login, I can change dirs.
[01:29] <nadira> soundray where can i gett the packages?
[01:29] <chriscwkx> sooglus: hehe ok, do you think it's safe for me to run it with root privileges until what's wrong can be worked out?
[01:29] <AMe> Hey quick Wireless question, with the ubunutu 2.10 gentoo live cd my wireless card doesn't work and i have to use an ehternet cable, has that been resolved in the new version? or is there something i can install after i install the os natively on the hardrive?
[01:30] <crimsun> Hyperlink: change directories, please. I'm trying to assist in several channels simultaneously.
[01:30] <AMe> to make the wireless work
[01:30] <ala> Myrtti, did you mean me? with that mounting?
[01:30] <soundray> nadira: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14_all.deb
[01:30] <redguy> !wireless
[01:30] <Seveas> AMe, there is no such thing as an "ubunutu 2.10 gentoo live cd"
[01:30] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:30] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=583683#post583683?
[01:30] <Myrtti> probably yes
[01:30] <silverton> Seveas, werd to that, rofl
[01:30] <AMe> Seveas: not familiar with the names, but the one right before the current release
[01:30] <Knowerrors> Sevseas maybe?
[01:30] <silverton> AMe, horary, 4.10
[01:30] <Seveas> silverton, 4.10 is warty
[01:30] <Seveas> hoary is 5.04
[01:31] <AMe> warty : )
[01:31] <silverton> I knew that...  was just testing you :)
[01:31] <Seveas> sigh
[01:31] <redguy> !tell AMe about wireless
[01:31] <AMe> thanks
[01:31] <redguy> !tell AMe about ndiswrapper
[01:31] <redguy> next please
[01:31] <AMe> word
[01:31] <Seveas> no
[01:31] <Seveas> OpenOffice.org
[01:31] <Seveas> no word
[01:31] <AMe> word = cool
[01:32] <AMe> cool = yes
[01:32] <funkyHat> lol AMe
[01:32] <AMe> comprende = understanding
[01:32] <rikai> lol, AMe,
[01:32] <redguy> word=yes?
[01:32] <rikai> AMe, seveas was making a joke ;)
[01:32] <AMe> yeah like thank you for the help
[01:32] <AMe> ohhh,
[01:32] <dooglus> chriscwkx: could you try this please?    strace beep-media-player > /tmp/log.txt 2>&1
[01:32] <Amaranth> all these websites keep telling me to hold option and click on add printer to get an advanced sheet, i'm not getting that
[01:33] <chriscwkx> dooglus: it's definitely a bug - I just went through all my other applications in the menu and they all ran
[01:33] <chriscwkx> dooglus: ok ill try it, its not going to crash though is it?
[01:33] <ala> Myrtti, Alas, the device is so old that it is not a mere USB filesystem. It uses specific commands to get mp3s to the player, that's what that package does. But what I find bizar, is that the complete /dev/usb/ directory is not there, while ir is normally stuffed with character devices, among which the rio00, but lots more. And this dir is missing
[01:33] <Amaranth> err, wrong chanel
[01:33] <soundray> nadira, okay?
[01:33] <Amaranth> channel*
[01:33] <Hyperlink> crimsun: http://www.taostrategos.com/temp01/debug.txt.bz2 [nolonger requires authorization]  (afk a second, dog's gotta potty)
[01:33] <chriscwkx> dooglus: it went to a new line
[01:33] <chriscwkx> chris@cwkx:~$ strace beep-media-player > /tmp/log.txt 2>&1
[01:33] <chriscwkx> chris@cwkx:~$
[01:33] <dooglus> chriscwkx: I doubt it.  It only crashed my system once.  I've tried it since and it's fine.  And I think the crash was probably because I didn't redirect the output.  Not sure though.
[01:34] <Myrtti> ala: I have to admit, I'm way too tired to understand anything
[01:34] <chriscwkx> dooglus: ah ok, does that mean anything?
[01:34] <dooglus> chriscwkx: I want to see the contents of the file /tmp/log.txt - maybe you can put them on the pastebin?  or email them to dooglus@gmail.com ?  or upload it somewhere?
[01:34] <chriscwkx> dooglus: sure, hang on ill upload to my site
[01:34] <ala> Myrtti, don't worry then
[01:34] <nadira> soundray problems with dpkg unknown force/refuse option 'locale....'
[01:35] <Myrtti> time to go wash the makeup off and head for bed
[01:35] <nadira> i tried sudo dpkg --force-depends locales_*.deb
[01:35] <wij> zzzz
[01:35] <natalie38> !tell natalie38 about alsa
[01:35] <soundray> nadira: sorry, correction: 'dpkg -i --force-depends locales_*.deb'
[01:36] <lysis> is it true that UBUNTU LIVE CDs generate random ROOT passwords and then don't give them to you?   why would they do this . . .?
[01:36] <Seveas> lysis, that is not true
[01:36] <Knowerrors> Seveas: any ideas on my problem with the usb drive not showing?
[01:36] <natalie38> !tell natalie38 about alsa
[01:36] <Seveas> Knowerrors, didn't (want to) look into it
[01:36] <lysis> Seveas, could somebody clear this up for me; a buddy of mine is under this assumption.    what does it do for a root password?
[01:36] <Myrtti> !tell lysis about root
[01:36] <dooglus> lysis: the root account's password is locked
[01:36] <Seveas> lysis, a locked password.
[01:36] <dooglus> lysis: you can unlock it with "sudo passwd"
[01:36] <Seveas> ubotu sent you a very helpful link
[01:36] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:37] <SAM_theman> !tell natalie38 about alsa
[01:37] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[01:37] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[01:37] <Myrtti> !botsnack
[01:37] <ubotu> :)
[01:37] <lysis> OHHH YEA.  well i just mean in general.  what does the live cd do for a sudo password?
[01:37] <Seveas> lysis, a locked password.
[01:37] <dooglus> lysis: for sudo you use your own password.  on a live CD I think that's blank
[01:37] <Seveas> so, no password at all
[01:38] <lysis> hmm ok.
[01:38] <funkyHat> lysis, no password
[01:38] <chriscwkx> dooglus: sorry for the delay, I had to configure gftp for the first time :) - it's here http://cwkx.com/log.txt
[01:38] <hmpedersen> Right..
[01:38] <hmpedersen> Upgrading from hoary to breezy.. Not a good idea
[01:38] <soundray> nadira, is it working now?
[01:38] <crimsun> Hyperlink: any luck? did you pass me a url?
[01:38] <hmpedersen> It broke my X
[01:38] <Knowerrors> Seveas: ok, no prob, if you or another guru can look when ya feel like I need the help
[01:38] <funkyHat> hmpedersen, I didn't have any trouble... what prob... ah
[01:39] <nadira> ok soundray, now iam getting something with configuring locales. what should i choose. this stuff is new to me aa_DJ ISO-8859-1
[01:39] <Seveas> hmpedersen, then repair it (hint: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed, and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[01:39] <lysis> Seveas, so the live cd doesn't allow sudo is what you're saying?
[01:39] <chriscwkx> dooglus: does that mean anything to you?
[01:39] <funkyHat> hmpedersen, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xser... gah, beaten to it again
[01:39] <soundray> nadira, you're from Norway, correct?
[01:39] <Jemt> Greetings. How can I enable danish characters in Eterm ?
[01:39] <Seveas> lysis, sudo needs *your* password, not the root password
[01:39] <nadira> yes soundray
[01:39] <Seveas> and the livecd is configured to allow sudo without password
[01:39] <hmpedersen> seveas, funkyhat, i cant get rid of the "Can't start X server" message..
[01:40] <funkyHat> hmpedersen, have you followed the steps Seveas just said?
[01:40] <lysis> Seveas, so when you're on a live cd, that means the password is blank and you can sudo without being asked a password? (or just simply pressing enter with nothing typed in?)
[01:40] <nadira> no_NO ISO-8859-1                                                             ?   ?
[01:40] <nadira>  ?    [*]  no_NO.UTF-8 UTF-8
[01:40] <Seveas> lysis, correct
[01:40] <hmpedersen> funkyhat, i never got around to it, as i cant get rid of the message..
[01:40] <lysis> Seveas, thanks.  :)
[01:40] <soundray> nadira, disable everything except en_US ones and no_NO and nb ones.
[01:41] <soundray> nadira, unless you need other languages as well.
[01:41] <funkyHat> hmpedersen, ah, do you still have the system set up like that? or have you reinstalled now?
[01:41] <lysis> Seveas, i don't actually use the live cd.  just checking for my friend.   i guess he was just trying to do SU instead of SUDO though.  so that's the big problem since su doesn't even work.
[01:41] <hmpedersen> Going to try again
[01:41] <funkyHat> hmpedersen, ctrl+alt+F1
[01:41] <hmpedersen> funky, I cant do that.. Im locked at the message
[01:41] <funkyHat> ah
[01:41] <chriscwkx> dooglus: I just uhh "fixed" it - I didn't realise bmp and xmms couldn't run together (shouldn't they be able to) so when I closed xmms it works now
[01:41] <funkyHat> :S
[01:41] <hmpedersen> i can only reinstall..
[01:42] <funkyHat> chriscwkx, they will work together with some output plugins but not all
[01:42] <okih> How do I use/run wine? I used Synaptic to install it.
[01:42] <Seveas> lysis, correct, su won't work
[01:42] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Try that url again. I removed the authorization requirement
[01:42] <funkyHat> okih, wine nameofwindowsexecutable.exe
[01:42] <Hyperlink> crimsun: http://www.taostrategos.com/temp01/debug.txt.bz2 [nolonger requires authorization] 
[01:42] <intelikey> anyone got a clue why i am having to dpkg-reconfigure gpm on each boot to get it to work?   the /etc/gpm.conf is correct but it wont work until i run the reconf on it.   thoughts ?
[01:42] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I was afk a sec.
[01:42] <crimsun> Hyperlink: downloaded.
[01:43] <okih> funkyHat, thank you
[01:43] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Great.
[01:43] <chriscwkx> ah, oh well that's solved then - thanks for the help ^^
[01:43] <K^Holtz> If i have my computer hooked up to a router, and i install ubuntu, will it find my connection automatically? i have a linksys router
[01:43] <Jemt> Does anyone know how I can obtain danish character support in my terminal? I'm using Eterm
[01:43] <crimsun> Hyperlink: don't have time this sec to inspect it; give me 5 minutes
[01:43] <funkyHat> K^Holtz, yes
[01:43] <soundray> nadira, I think you're sorted. I'm leaving now. I'm sure you'll find someone to help in case you have further problems. Just be patient and ask a few times if necessary.
[01:43] <redguy> intelikey: won't work == is not running ?
[01:43] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I'll be here.
[01:43] <K^Holtz> k, thanks funkyHat
[01:43] <nadira> soundray thanks allot
[01:43] <intelikey> yes redguy
[01:44] <nadira> although i have installed locales. i still get the perl warning
[01:44] <funkyHat> K^Holtz, assuming that your router is connected to your computer via an ethernet cable and isn't broken
[01:44] <funkyHat> ;)
[01:44] <soundray> nadira, you will need to log in again and select your language on login.
[01:44] <K^Holtz> yea, it is :)
[01:44] <funkyHat> :)
[01:44] <hmpedersen> I give up.. Been trying for 5 days now to get ubuntu to not only install, but allso work..
[01:45] <Knorrie> hmpedersen: :(
[01:45] <hmpedersen> it took me less than an hour to get it running on my laptop..
[01:45] <mmiikkee12> what does ubuntu use to automatically detect my net connection and dsl modem?
[01:45] <soundray> hmpedersen, you haven't really given up, otherwise you wouldn't be telling us :)
[01:45] <crimsun> Hyperlink: what filename did you try to play?
[01:45] <soundray> hmpedersen, anyway, hope you get it sorted.
[01:45] <funkyHat> lol @ soundray
[01:46] <hmpedersen> soundray, i cant spend more time trying.. I need the pc running..
[01:46] <soundray> funkyHat, lol @ soundray or lol about soundray ?
[01:46] <hmpedersen> I have to go to desperate meassures..
[01:46] <soundray> hmpedersen, sorry I can't help tonight.
[01:46] <funkyHat> soundray, lol @ what you had just said
[01:46] <soundray> funkyHat, :)
[01:46] <Hyperlink> crimsun: one sec
[01:46] <funkyHat> :)
[01:46] <K^Holtz> what do u guys use to download music? when i had linux installed last time, i just used irc to download all the time, but that is just annoying, id rather something else
[01:47] <hmpedersen> i have no choice but to.. reinstall.. *shivers* Xandros!
[01:47] <Hyperlink> crimsun: S9E10 - The Strike.avi among others
[01:47] <redguy> intelikey: does "ls -l /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -f 2 -d ' '`.d | grep gpm" find gpm? maybe the symlink to the initscript is missing?
[01:47] <wims> i just get connection timed out when trying to connect to my external ip
[01:47] <dooglus> chriscwkx: haha, I see.
[01:47] <wims> oops wrong window
[01:47] <Hyperlink> crimsin: The picture was fine, just no audio.
[01:47] <kspath> K^Holtz: I take my legally acquired CDs of muzik and use sound juicer to convert to ogg vobis on disk
[01:48] <dooglus> chriscwkx: after looking at your log.txt I was going to suggest that cleaning out /tmp would fix it
[01:48] <intelikey> redguy yeah the symlink is in the rc.d
[01:48] <intelikey> :)
[01:48] <dooglus> chriscwkx: there was a /tmp/xmms_chris.0 file in there that was causing the problem...  :)
[01:48] <misfit_toy> Hyperlink, "sudo killall esd" in a term then try it again
[01:48] <K^Holtz> of course ur legal kspath
[01:48] <chriscwkx> dooglus: hehe, ah well sorry for all the trouble over such a silly thing ^^
[01:48] <crimsun> Hyperlink: ok, if you're using vlc, ''vlc -vv'' will be more useful for me
[01:48] <intelikey> it even says it starts at boot time but it is not working until i reconf gpm
[01:48] <mmiikkee12> anyone here familiar with ubuntu internals?
[01:49] <dooglus> chriscwkx: no problem.  glad you found a solution :)
[01:49] <intelikey> redguy ^
[01:49] <crimsun> Hyperlink: oh!
[01:49] <dooglus> !anyone
[01:49] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:49] <crimsun> Hyperlink: have you installed vlc-plugin-alsa ?
[01:49] <redguy> intelikey: hrm
[01:49] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I have not, unless it came with the greater package.
[01:49] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I'll apt-get it
[01:49] <mmiikkee12> ubuntu is one of the few distros where it autodetects my net connection, what does it use to do that?
[01:49] <crimsun> it doesn't in Breezy; it does in Dapper.
[01:49] <redguy> intelikey: maybe there's an /etc/defaylt/gpm file which prevents it from being run?
[01:50] <redguy> s/defylt/default/
[01:50] <Delvien> How can you make all of one type of file a specific ICON, in example make all .exe display the wine icon
[01:50] <kspath> K^Holtz: no really  I never downloaded anything that I did not pay for via a muzik service or purchased CDs that belong to me for only my purposes
[01:50] <Hyperlink> crimsun: installing. I'll try with the plugin
[01:50] <hmpedersen> mmiikkee12, the onlything that -doesnt- autodetect my net is debian.. Wont even let me do it manually..
[01:50] <intelikey> redguy also if i just do a /etc/init.d/gpm restart it gives the wrong device and wrong protical.
[01:50] <dooglus> I've tried using "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" instead of "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" but it doesn't seem to work.  am I doing it wrong?
[01:50] <mmiikkee12> hmpedersen, debian and gentoo require some extensive configuration
[01:50] <hmpedersen> mmiikkee12, but i guess that doesnt help u any
[01:50] <mmiikkee12> that i don't feel like doing
[01:50] <intelikey> i'm looking for a defaylt now redguy
[01:51] <K^Holtz> kspath, i didnt mean anything by it.. i envy u for that.. not many ppl can say the same
[01:51] <jdkycdoc> hi, sorry but i don't remember what is the file i need to modify to chahge the behavior of grub? i want to hide the menu and make it go into one of the os's by default
[01:51] <mmiikkee12> hmpedersen, i want the name of the app that handles that
[01:51] <redguy> intelikey: maybe you got X running the same time you want to use gpm?
[01:51] <UnWorldly> I am trying to do realtime audio, trying to get jack to work, following the guide on this page: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/install.html , it wants me tp put a new file in the udev permissions directory, but my version of ubuntu does not have a udev permissions directory, where can I put this permissions file to make it work?
[01:51] <Delvien> How can you make all of one type of file a specific ICON, in example make all .exe display the wine icon
[01:51] <intelikey> redguy no X server
[01:52] <hmpedersen> its interesting.. The only breezy that will install on my pc is the amd64...
[01:52] <intelikey> redguy also gpm works with X running anyway.
[01:52] <hmpedersen> and when installed, i allways have to open programs twice, because they allways crash first time..
[01:52] <intelikey> oops delvien i mean
[01:52] <kspath> K^Holtz: I even started to only buy regular audio CDs so I have full rights and full audio quality
[01:52] <Hyperlink> crimsun: installed plugin. problem is still persisting
[01:53] <Hyperlink> crimsun: should I carry out your former suggestions?
[01:53] <K^Holtz> haha, well too bad ur all about being legal, id ask u to share :)
[01:53] <crimsun> Hyperlink: make sure you select the alsa plugin in vlc's audio output preferences (enable advanced options)
[01:53] <Hyperlink> crimsun: k
[01:53] <redguy> intelikey: there used to be a thing you had to do before using gpm with X. Something in the lines of redirecting the mouse port to /dev/gpm and using that as the mouse port in X. But maybe now this is not longer necessary
[01:54] <hmpedersen> Im not complaining.. Just stating that its interesting..
[01:54] <intelikey> redguy how is that pertanant to a server with no x installed ?
[01:54] <Delvien> Is there a Amarok applet for gdesklet to show the cover art ?
[01:55] <redguy> intelikey: this was a side note :-)
[01:55] <Hyperlink> crimsun: audio:output modules:ALSA saved, still no noise
[01:55] <intelikey> k
[01:56] <hmpedersen> Maybe, if i spend more than  a day with xandros installed, i could get used to it..
[01:56] <hmpedersen> what a scaring thought..
[01:56] <hmpedersen> scary*
[01:57] <coag> anyone here good with ssh? im trying to figure out how to set up X11 forwarding
[01:57] <coag> the manpage didn't do me any good
[01:57] <Hobbsee> !ssh
[01:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[01:57] <Hobbsee> that help?
[01:57] <redguy> intelikey: well, I can't think of anything else anyway. sorry
[01:58] <crimsun> Hyperlink: ok, what sound hardware do you have?
[01:58] <Delvien>  /join #dell
[01:58] <crimsun> Hyperlink: is this with Breezy or Dapper Flight 2?
[01:58] <Delvien> ...
[01:58] <Hyperlink> crimsun: breezy
[01:58] <intelikey> i just rm'd all the /etc/defaults and rebooted.  maybe it was in there....  :)
[01:58] <josema> hi, all, first time aroun here and logging in desperate after trying to make Ubuntu work in my laptop for dozens of hours, anyone can help? (it installed but mainly ACPI and soundcard don't work :-(
[01:58] <coag> Hobbsee: not at all
[01:58] <intelikey> redguy ^
[01:59] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Is there a command I can use to get info about my hardware?
[01:59] <AMe> dmesg?
[01:59] <crimsun> Hyperlink: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[01:59] <redguy> intelikey: ...
[01:59] <redguy> intelikey: that was not a good thing to do
[01:59] <AMe> what does dmesg do again? it shows what the machine goes through when it booted?
[01:59] <aniss> hi all
[01:59] <bnD> hi aniss
[02:00] <intelikey> redguy dpkg can put them back if i need them....
[02:00] <brandnewscv> how do I get permission on my user to create folders on ubuntu?
[02:00] <aniss> I juste installed ubuntu a few minutes ago
[02:00] <aniss> this stuff is really great
[02:00] <aniss> ( ^ _ ^ )
[02:00] <redguy> intelikey: even if you don't know what was there?
[02:00] <Hyperlink> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
[02:00] <Hyperlink> crimsun: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
[02:00] <bnD> aniss, :)
[02:00] <aniss> I only have a little pb
[02:00] <hmpedersen> Well.. One thing is for sure.. Im never going to remove the superior linux from my laptop :)
[02:01] <aniss> I can't adjust my screen resolution to 1280x1024
[02:01] <intelikey> redguy i know what was there and too answer the question yes.  dpkg-reconfigure -a will put it back like it was.
[02:01] <mindsuck> What's tmpfs                 126M   13M  114M  10% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile for?
[02:01] <redguy> intelikey: good to know
[02:01] <crimsun> Hyperlink: ok, then you'll need to file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com against linux with all the details you've given.
[02:01] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell aniss about xcfg
[02:01] <rikai> does anyone know thedefaut LINPHONE_SOURCE dir?
[02:01] <intelikey> it might not for all systems but this server only had 5 files in there.
[02:02] <asprin> Official Ubuntu support channel?what mean?
[02:02] <hmpedersen> aniss, who needs more than 1024*768 anyways?
[02:02] <johnblackhorse> aniss: run that command ubotu sent you and deselect the resolutions you DONT want, and check the one that you do
[02:02] <redguy> !tell asprin about ubuntu
[02:02] <aniss> I didn't new how to deselect
[02:02] <johnblackhorse> hmpedersen: i'm on a 21" display, 1024x768 is a small postage stamp in the middle of it
[02:02] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I've made it clear that I can get audio when playing a flac or mp3, right?
[02:02] <aniss> should I type x or soomething ?
[02:03] <johnblackhorse> aniss: see the info ubotu sent you
[02:03] <kspath> I miss 3 head  1600x1200 32bit
[02:03] <hmpedersen> johnblackhorse, heh.. point.. its a good resolution for me :) i have no monitor that goe beyond that anyways..
[02:03] <Hyperlink> crimsun: This isn't just a an audio problem. My speakers make noise. The problem is that there's no audio when I play video files.
[02:03] <aniss> johnblackhorse> ok
[02:04] <hmpedersen> dont think i can get my boss to understand that i need a better monitor to do research for the paper..
[02:04] <Hyperlink> crimsun: That's why I don't think it's a hardware problem.
[02:05] <intelikey> redguy besides i've never left ub install on any box more than two or three days, and this is the second day..... so   ;/
[02:05] <crimsun> Hyperlink: I can't help you beyond sound problems; the fact that it works intermittently points to something deeper than just an application-layer issue
[02:05] <crimsun> Hyperlink: are you using .asoundrc or something?
[02:05] <Hyperlink> crimsun: I don't know what .asoundrc is
[02:06] <AMe> does ubuntu not have a built in firewall?
[02:06] <nrdb> Hi I was wondering about setting up ubuntu to do faxing, do I need to just plug in a modem and set the printer to 'send to fax'?
[02:06] <intelikey> ame iptables
[02:06] <AMe> thanks
[02:07] <redguy> !tell AMe about firestarter
[02:07] <arcanistherogue> hey, where do i put executables so i can make my own commands?  like lets say i want it to run a program "/usr/local/games/gamename/gameexcutable" every time i type "game", where do i put the script for htat ?
[02:07] <arcanistherogue> in the console i mean
[02:07] <AMe> !tell AMe iptables
[02:07] <funkyHat> anyone... thoughts on the necesity of configuring iptables/using firestarter or a similar tool?
[02:08] <intelikey> ame firestarter is probably the configuration app you want.   or quicktables
[02:08] <josema> how can I have my Intel HDA sound card detected?
[02:08] <silverton> funkyHat, firestarter is nice for people who don't know how to set up the rules
[02:08] <Kyral> There does need to be an easy to do IPTables thing
[02:08] <EasterSunshine> is there a command-line option for startx that will invert the color on all pixels?
[02:08] <redguy> arcanistherogue: you might make an alias in your .bashrc file
[02:08] <lysis> funkyHat, i had to; especially if you're using p2p software. those ports are closed by default on an installation.
[02:08] <adfadfeed> how do i start the network config tool again under ubuntu?
[02:08] <intelikey> Kyral ever try quicktables ?
[02:08] <redguy> arcanistherogue: look for the aliases for ls there
[02:08] <crimsun> Hyperlink: ok, then that's about the extent of my troubleshooting atm. I don't deal with stuff other than audio.
[02:08] <funkyHat> silverton, yes, but how necessary is setting up the rules in the first place?
[02:09] <redguy> arcanistherogue: to get an idea how an alias looks like
[02:09] <silverton> funkyHat, ICS, port forwarding, the such
[02:09] <funkyHat> in terms of computer security
[02:10] <silverton> if you want your box secure, just leave iptables alone, leaves all ports closed...
[02:10] <funkyHat> If the machine is behind a NAT and a router
[02:10] <nrdb> abfadfeed: kmenu->system settings->network settings
[02:10] <funkyHat> cool
[02:10] <funkyHat> :)
[02:10] <funkyHat> That is the information I wanted :)
[02:10] <platypus> hi
[02:10] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Thanks for your help.
[02:10] <Delvien> What source do i need to get azuerus ?
[02:11] <funkyHat> I should have researched it long ago, I'm just too lazy
[02:11] <_jason> silverton, aren't all ports open by default?
[02:11] <tyler> hi
[02:11] <intelikey> arcanistherogue any place in your path   echo $PATH        sorry for the slow answer.
[02:11] <neq> hi
[02:11] <adfadfeed> nrdb: thanks  isn't there a command line option also though?
[02:11] <platypus> I'm french and I am a new users of linux since 1 hours
[02:11] <nrdb> abfadfeed: there is ifconfig etc.
[02:12] <platypus> and I dont understand this system
[02:12] <void^> Delvien: just get it from azureus.sourceforge.net and be sure to install sun or blackdown java
[02:12] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell Delvien about azureus
[02:12] <adfadfeed> i mean the same config tool used during initial setup
[02:12] <silverton> _jason, heh... yeah, probably >.<      "oops"
[02:12] <nrdb> platypus: that is very new.
[02:12] <_jason> arcanistherogue, I learned today that you can also put it in ~/bin (you have to create it), then just "source ~/.bash_profile" to get it added to the path automatically
[02:14] <intelikey> _jason yes you can set your path in .bash*
[02:14] <silverton> heh, mini-split
[02:14] <platypus> nrbd: yes I had a "partition" you know what is it? and I can't see here otherwise when I insert a CD, it doesn't launche the setup application! can you help me please?
[02:14] <neq> hm
[02:15] <_jason> intelikey, I think it's in /etc/profile, but default ~/.bash_profile provides for you to create ~/.bin and it will add it if it exists
[02:15] <platypus> (excuz me but I am not a great student in english lool)
[02:15] <wij> .
[02:15] <_jason> intelikey, nvr mnd, I see what you mean... you can just put it in anything that bash sources
[02:16] <Kyral> !fr
[02:16] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:16] <nrdb> platypus: I will try to help, what type of CD?
[02:16] <Kyral> platypus: perhaps you would like help in french?
[02:17] <platypus> a driver CD for my grapkic card
[02:17] <Kyral> ubotu tell platypus about fr
[02:17] <BoukenPink> Hey all. :D
[02:18] <ElitePete> how can i make firestarter firewall of permanently?
[02:18] <platypus> kyral : I try to speak english, I write slowly but I understand what you to tell so in english its good if you understand me
[02:18] <ElitePete> off.
[02:18] <_jason> ElitePete, can you remove the package?
[02:18] <ElitePete> _jason i could, would that make it off forever?
[02:18] <redguy> ElitePete: why would you want to do that?
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> heh - yea. remove it. sort of makes it off for ever...
[02:18] <ElitePete> redguy because even when i add rules the ports are blocked
[02:19] <dooglus> ElitePete: firestarter isn't really a firewall - it's just a front-end that configures the built-in iptables firewall.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> use it to remove all the rules..
[02:19] <nrdb> platypus: Driver CD for graphic card usally have only drivers for Windows on them.
[02:19] <dooglus> ElitePete: you can uninstall firestarter, but iptables will still be built in
[02:19] <ElitePete> so then why when i add my rule the thingy is still blocked?
[02:19] <dooglus> ElitePete: maybe your router is blocking it?
[02:19] <ElitePete> i don't have one
[02:19] <redguy> ElitePete: You sure that you use it correctly? It shouldn't work this way you know...
[02:19] <platypus> nrbd: so a windows application is available in linux ?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> or your rule is wrong.
[02:20] <ElitePete> ports 6112-6119
[02:20] <platypus> *nrbd:isn't
[02:20] <dooglus> ElitePete: what do you see if you "sudo iptables -L | grep 6112" ?
[02:20] <johnblackhorse> platypus: windows applications do not run well if at all in linux
[02:20] <ElitePete> dooglus i see nothing
[02:20] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell platypus about equivalents
[02:20] <wij> restart the firewall, after you enter the rules
[02:21] <dooglus> ElitePete: if you "sudo iptables -L" then?
[02:21] <platypus> thanks john
[02:21] <nrdb> platypus: There are several ways to run Windows applications in Linux, but you can't use a Windows driver in Linux.
[02:21] <ElitePete> pete@LinuxBox:~$ sudo iptables -L
[02:21] <ElitePete> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[02:21] <ElitePete> target     prot opt source               destination
[02:21] <ElitePete> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[02:21] <ElitePete> target     prot opt source               destination
[02:21] <ElitePete> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[02:21] <ElitePete> target     prot opt source               destination
[02:21] <dooglus> nrdb: ndiswrapper lets you use windows drivers in Linux
[02:21] <ElitePete> pete@LinuxBox:~$
[02:21] <dooglus> ElitePete: that means all ports are open
[02:21] <redguy> !tell ElitePete about pastebin
[02:21] <platypus> ok
[02:21] <dooglus> ElitePete: that's the default setup in ubuntu
[02:21] <redguy> dooglus: darn, taht was my line!
[02:21] <ElitePete> dooglus but i have proven that when i have firestarter firewall enabled it blocks my port for the program
[02:22] <redguy> dooglus: about ndiswrapper, that is
[02:22] <nrdb> dooglus: didn't know that.
[02:22] <platypus> moreover I have donwload gparted ? but I I can't setup it ..  . do you know what?
[02:22] <redguy> ElitePete: it doesnt
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> 'firestarter' is not a firewall . its a front end to your existing iptables commands/setup. -
[02:22] <dooglus> nrdb: all ports are open, but nothing is listening on any of them, so it's not a problem...
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> run firestarter, then run that  ipdables -L command again.
[02:22] <bnD> the url that 'equivalents' points to is no longer functional
[02:23] <ElitePete> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpts:6112:6119
[02:23] <ElitePete> ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpts:6112:6119
[02:23] <ElitePete> so that is what i want..
[02:23] <ElitePete> ill try the program now..
[02:23] <nrdb> dooglus: I think that last message was for someone else!
[02:23] <redguy> ElitePete: don't paste in here
[02:23] <dooglus> nrdb: I don't think so - it had my name on it!  :)
[02:23] <dooglus> ElitePete: you see how firestarter is just configuring the iptables rules though?
[02:24] <ElitePete> dooglus, i think so.
[02:24] <redguy> dooglus: But I thought first of it! Are you stealing my thoughts?
[02:24] <dooglus> redguy: no, I'm creating your thoughts.
[02:24] <_jason> interesting
[02:24] <dooglus> redguy: the matrix has you
[02:25] <nrdb> hack the matrix then.
[02:25] <dooglus> knock knock redguy...  follow the brown desktop.
[02:25] <bnD> har @ dooglus
[02:25] <intelikey> what matrix ?
[02:26] <nrdb> intelikey: matrix as in the movie 'The Matrix'
[02:26] <intelikey> oh never heard of it.
[02:26] <blanky> sup intelikey
[02:26] <Stormx2> Hai
[02:26] <josema> my HDA Intel soundcard is not working, even after trying forums and wiki info, may anybody help?
[02:26] <intelikey> blanky :)
[02:26] <xH2D2> what?
[02:27] <BoukenPink> Quick question... How can I make it so there isn't a post-login splash that shows everything loading?
[02:27] <blanky> josema, let the lord help thy, he shall help your soul
[02:27] <blanky> ANYWAYS
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> BoukenPink,  you mean the gnome login splash after the GDM login?
[02:27] <nrdb> Hi I was wondering about setting up ubuntu to do faxing, do I need to just plug in a modem and set the printer to 'send to fax'?
[02:27] <blanky> Dr_Willis, what's the problem
[02:27] <intelikey> post-login splash ?????  kill gdm ?
[02:27] <blanky> what are you guys talking about i might know
[02:27] <BoukenPink> Dr_Willis, yes, that.
[02:28] <eruin> BoukenPink, wait for gnome 2.14 ;)
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> GNOME has a 'splash' screen that you can configure or disable. in its Perferances settings.
[02:28] <dooglus> preferences/settings is possibly the most confusing GNOME dialog ever
[02:29] <josema> blanky: ok, i'll be waiting, thanks
[02:29] <intelikey> BoukenPink it wont make it post any faster really.
[02:29] <AMe> does ubuntu have a standby or hibertate state capability?
[02:29] <AMCDeathKnight> Well lol
[02:30] <qwerrttyy> hello. I have glxquake and the pak file in id1, but when I execute ./glquake I get "illegal instruction" what could be the problem?
[02:30] <dooglus> if I visit a page in firefox which uses java, a 250Mb java_vm process starts up.  when I leave the page, the huge java process lives on.  how can I get rid of it without killing firefox?  I tried killing it, but it took the browser with it.
[02:30] <AMe> glquake is for the first quake right?
[02:31] <qwerrttyy> yup
[02:31] <AMe> sounds pretty sweet,
[02:31] <_jason> dooglus, I wish I knew, I curse at java every time I view top
[02:31] <AMe> it says illegal instruction most likely because glquake is not a command
[02:31] <AMe> / instruction
[02:32] <qwerrttyy> I execute the same file on my other computer and it works
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> or thers some other cmmmand that needs to be used to run it.
[02:32] <Seveas> qwerrttyy, uname -a
[02:32] <Seveas> paste the output in here
[02:32] <dooglus> _jason: I wrote a little alias that lists my processes in order of size.  the java_vm is always huge.
[02:32] <blanky> I have had 99 cups of ubuntu
[02:32] <qwerrttyy> Seveas, 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux
[02:33] <blanky> take one down, pass it around, 98 cups of ubuntu
[02:33] <blanky> qwerrttyy dont be queer
[02:33] <dooglus> blanky: take it to #ubuntu-campfiresongs please :)
[02:33] <blanky> oh yeah! i forgot about that
[02:33] <rosen> cumbuntuuuu my looord .... combuntuuu
[02:34] <blanky> LOL
[02:34] <dooglus> heh
[02:34] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I install java?
[02:34] <blanky> :O
[02:34] <blanky> !java
[02:34] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:35] <blanky> isn't ubotu just adorable
[02:35] <AMCDeathKnight> !javadebs
[02:35] <AMCDeathKnight> lol
[02:35] <blanky> !youfail
[02:35] <ubotu> blanky: Not a clue
[02:35] <amz0r> Hi folks
[02:35] <blanky> hey folk
[02:35] <xH2D2> hi
[02:35] <qwerrttyy> Seveas, 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux
[02:36] <Vastrup> hi
[02:36] <qwerrttyy> hello. I have glxquake and the pak file in id1, but when I execute ./glquake I get "illegal instruction" what could be the problem?
[02:36] <MrRio> whats the upgrade path from 5.04 to 5.10?
[02:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell MrRio about breezy
[02:36] <blanky> qwerrttyy, what exactly is your error
[02:36] <blanky> exactly
[02:36] <amz0r> I've just tried to install 5.10 on my laptop here on 6.6gb free space. Everything went OK until the installer tried to create the user accounts, at that point it prompted me to choose an action (i chose create accounts again) and it just returned to the installer optios
[02:36] <bnD> teoo AMCDeathKnight restrictedformats
[02:36] <qwerrttyy> blanky, as I said, it's exactly: "illegal instruction"
[02:37] <bnD> ubotu tell AMCDeathKnight restrictedformats
[02:37] <qwerrttyy> blanky, in console
[02:37] <blanky> just that? I think that means...uh...you fail
[02:37] <amz0r> When I tried to continue it tells me a step failed, has anyone see this before?
[02:37] <blanky> how did you install it
[02:37] <MrRio> _jason, cheers
[02:37] <blanky> deb, compile, rpm to dpkg
[02:37] <redguy> qwerrttyy: AMD64 perhaps?
[02:37] <blanky> oh, probably
[02:37] <Vastrup> im trying to install ubuntu for the first time, but the installation freezes up everytime, when it in the "configuring apt..." "setting up primary installation repository" and reaches 25%...
[02:37] <blanky> are you running 64 dogg?
[02:37] <bnD> AMCDeathKnight, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:37] <MenZa> never install ubuntu 64bit if you're new to linux
[02:37] <qwerrttyy> qwerrttyy, well this computer is an old generic one
[02:38] <intelikey> k7 k9 ?
[02:38] <MenZa> I found out
[02:38] <blanky> dont talk to yourself qwerrttyy
[02:38] <qwerrttyy> redguy, this computer is an old generic one
[02:38] <redguy> qwerrttyy: illegal instruction usually signifies that a certain instruction can't be executed
[02:38] <blanky> qwerrttyy, so it's not 64 im guessing
[02:38] <MrRio> for some reason i dont have ANY repo's configured for apt/synaptics
[02:38] <MrRio> (cept the installation cdrom)
[02:38] <redguy> qwerrttyy: < PII ?
[02:39] <BoukenPink> There we go... Just got the splash screen manager with apt and deselected "show splash at start up"
[02:39] <AMe> does ubuntu have a hibernate state?
[02:39] <_jason> ubotu, tell MrRio about repos
[02:39] <bnD> MrRio, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:39] <MrRio> lol, its ok ive sussed it noe
[02:39] <bnD> woops @ _jason
[02:39] <MrRio> now*
[02:39] <MrRio> thanks tho
[02:39] <redguy> qwerrttyy: also, answer blanky's question: how did you install it?
[02:39] <qwerrttyy> redguy, well, originally, this computer might have had a amd k6-2 233 but more likely it had and now has a amd k6-2 500mhz
[02:40] <eruin> AMDe, yes, but not quite out of the box yet
[02:40] <eruin> AMe, even
[02:40] <qwerrttyy> redguy, it's already a compiled binary, all I had to do on my other computer is extract the files and run ./glquake from the folder after chmod a+x
[02:41] <redguy> qwerrttyy: most propably the binary you installed is incompatible with K6-2. 686 is incompatible I suppose
[02:41] <redguy> qwerrttyy: being incompatible meaning that it was not compiled for K6
[02:41] <redguy> qwerrttyy: hence 'illegal instruction'
[02:42] <qwerrttyy> redguy, from what I've looked up on this problem, I believe that
[02:42] <redguy> as a side note: is the word "compatible" related to the word "compile"
[02:43] <redguy> qwerrttyy: doubt that 586 is compatible as well
[02:43] <intelikey> it really looks like the packagers have messed in their nest on gpm.  when a ps2 mouse is improperly detected something is wrong.....
[02:43] <bnD> intelikey, lol
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> or no one cares about gpm any more. :P
[02:43] <redguy> qwerrttyy: you would have to build it manually or get a binary compiled for a 386, 486 or for K6
[02:44] <qwerrttyy> redguy, naturally, I tried to compile quake source, but that had it's problems, too, that's why ran back here to ask about the binary
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> like some of the little issues with VNC.
[02:44] <intelikey> josema si
[02:44] <redguy> late is relative
[02:45] <josema> intelikey: are you also in Spain?
[02:45] <intelikey> no just understand the timezones josema
[02:46] <r0uT> brasnet.org
[02:46] <josema> intelikey: ok, may you help with my HDA Intel souncard not being detect or know someone who does?
[02:47] <intelikey> josema have you tried to modprobe a driver for it ?
[02:48] <josema> intelikey: yes, and the snda-hda-intel is there, but I have not sound. I even switched to Dapper, but no luck either :-(
[02:49] <linas5> yay
[02:49] <intelikey> josema i don't know what to tell you then.    lsmod and make sure sound-core is loaded maybe ?
[02:49] <linas5> hello
[02:50] <intelikey> linas5 :)
[02:50] <linas5> i think i need some help with ubuntu =x
[02:50] <crimsun> josema: you need to use upstream's 1.0.11rc1 alsa-driver tarball
[02:50] <crimsun> josema: to that end, you'll need to install build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and fakeroot
[02:50] <linas5> how do i install ndiswrapper with no net connection?
[02:51] <tomaj> linas5, lol what are you doing on irc without the internet? ;)
[02:51] <josema> intelikey: also there...
[02:51] <linas5> im on my other comp
[02:51] <linas5> =P
[02:51] <rosen> would I be a bad boy if I simply chose to forget about the ln cmd ? ... because I find it confusing and silly ;)
[02:51] <intelikey> josema see what crimsun said ^
[02:51] <linas5> one = normal, one im having problems with = lappy with only a pcmcia wifi card
[02:51] <tomaj> linas5, so do you have networking?
[02:52] <linas5> yes?
[02:52] <tomaj> cant you rout internet through the pc you are using now?
[02:52] <linas5> i just gotta install this ndiswrapper deally
[02:52] <linas5> what?
[02:52] <tomaj> otherwise i'd check the install cd
[02:52] <tomaj> the install cd might have it, im not sure though
[02:52] <linas5> i got partway through then i got a weird error
[02:53] <tomaj> what is the error?
[02:53] <linas5> uhh
[02:53] <Vid21> anyone here use the pwc drivers and know how to get a higher resolution image?
[02:53] <linas5> hold on lemme do this quick
[02:53] <BoukenPink> I'd be happy now if I could figure out how to make my internet work correctly. >.>
[02:54] <Vid21> I'm using the "new" pwc drivers but I'm not sure if it's still doing the same thing that the pwcx used to.
[02:54] <josema> crimsun: compiled 1.0.11rc1 a few hours ago, no luck either :-(
[02:54] <crimsun> josema: which codec does your chipset use?
[02:54] <josema> crimsun: how could I find it?
[02:55] <Niomi> how can i launch a VNC server from CLI, via SSH?
[02:55] <crimsun> josema: cat /proc/asound/cards usually tells you when the driver is loaded.
[02:56] <BoukenPink> Oh, and I'm having sync issues in mplayer, what with the audio and video not matching up, which never used to happen in Hoary... I started using VNC, since I couldn't figure out how to fix mplayer~
[02:56] <AlexanRO> where can i find kernel-source-2.6.12-1-386? it is not available in any of the repos i have configured apt to use
[02:56] <linas5> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build;      give the path to kernel sources with ksrc=<path> argument to make
[02:56] <linas5> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[02:56] <linas5> after i do make on that
[02:56] <linas5> =P
[02:56] <linas5> im so confused omfg
[02:57] <josema> crimsun: that command returned "--- no soundcards ---"
[02:57] <crimsun> josema: then look at lspci -v |grep -i audio
[02:57] <windowmaker> hey guys, every time i boot up ubuntu my permissions for a certain system file change back, and i want it to have permissions of 777 and be owned by my own user account, is there any way to set it up so when ubuntu boots up it automatically does "chown windowmaker /the/system/file/i/want/to/own" and "chmod 777 /the/system/file/i/want/to/own"
[02:57] <mcjerry> I see lirc in synaptec, would i need to simply install lirc or will a kernel compile be necessary to use the mce remote?
[02:57] <Hericus> hey, if you need any good books I found a few in here http://24.118.232.47/
[02:57] <tomaj> linas5, how exactly are you installing it? i hope you are using synaptic
[02:58] <linas5> wtf is synaptic?
[02:58] <josema> crimsun: 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[02:58] <varsendagger> Hericus, name on of the good books you there
[02:58] <intelikey> !synaptic
[02:58] <ubotu> hmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:58] <Hericus> "Learning Perl"
[02:58] <misfit_toy> linas5, system/administration/synaptic package manager
[02:59] <crimsun> josema: and from lspci -nv ? Use pastebin
[03:00] <linas5> uhh
[03:00] <linas5> how do i use this synaptic thing to install ndiswrapper?
[03:00] <linas5> =x
[03:00] <_jason> Hericus, those are a lot of perl books
[03:00] <tomaj> linas5 cmon its easier than compiling hahaha
[03:01] <Hericus> Yes, that is.
[03:01] <_jason> Hericus, thank you for sharing
[03:01] <varsendagger> linas5, tomaj is right
[03:01] <linas5> but how the hell do i use this
[03:01] <linas5> =P
[03:01] <mcjerry> can anyone help answer lirc remote questions
[03:01] <josema> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5865
[03:01] <tomaj> linas5 you search
[03:01] <linas5> heh
[03:01] <linas5> there it is =P
[03:01] <tomaj> :)
[03:02] <linas5> thanks tomaj
[03:03] <tomaj> linas5, np glad to help
[03:04] <crimsun> josema: nope, the driver's too new. You can try looking on Realtek's Web site if it's a certain motherboard
[03:04] <crimsun> josema: rather, the hardware's too new, not the driver
[03:04] <ElitePete> i wonder if dapper will even support my video card
[03:04] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there away I can put a MAC Dock in Linux?
[03:05] <robotgeek> AMCDeathKnight: starterbar/ksmoothdock
[03:05] <AMCDeathKnight> is that a program I can download through apt?
[03:05] <josema> crimsun: I was afraid of that. Got this laptop (Acer 3004WTMi) a month ago and I think Linux distros won't be ready for it until next versions :-(
[03:05] <slide> I have a DVD/CD burner and the thing never burns at even close to max speed, for cds it gets max about 8X (should get 48x) and for dvds it gets MAX 1x (should get 8x), Can anyone suggest any thing to help?
[03:05] <josema> I was happily using Ubuntu for some six months before... oh, well...
[03:05] <ElitePete> slide, is dma enabled?
[03:06] <slide> ElitePete, not sure
[03:06] <ElitePete>  hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:06] <ElitePete> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda in console.
[03:07] <ElitePete> do /dev/hdb/ also
[03:07] <slide> what should be by dvd device though
[03:07] <slide> k
[03:07] <ElitePete> if you have more then 1.
[03:07] <josema> crimsun: thanks a bunch. Now it's really time to leave (3am here)
[03:07] <intelikey> why is there no option for C locale ?
[03:07] <varsendagger> what is podcaat software?
[03:07] <slide> hdd{a,b,c,d} all have it on
[03:07] <varsendagger> will xmms do it?
[03:08] <adam_> ubuntu shuts down mp pc when im on it for more than 2 min
[03:08] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there away I can use "starterbar/ksmoothdock" in Gnome?
[03:08] <varsendagger> and how do i add a rss feed to thunderbird
[03:08] <adam_> any sug.
[03:08] <set_> crimus: running out of suggestions?
[03:08] <crimsun> set_: I'm very busy atm, I'm trying to get to everyone
[03:09] <set_> crimsun: no worries. Just wanted to know the status
[03:09] <JManBlue> adam: try running the memory checking program on the ubuntu install CD
[03:09] <varsendagger> crimsun, is more cowbell
[03:09] <JManBlue> adam: you might have bad memory...
[03:09] <slide> ElitePete,  hdd{a,b,c,d} all have it on
[03:09] <adam_> ok
[03:09] <tomaj> lol varsendagger
[03:09] <adam_> thanks
[03:09] <JManBlue> adam: np...
[03:10] <ElitePete> slide try burning a cd now.
[03:10] <ElitePete> should be much faster
[03:11] <slide> ElitePete, that turned it on?
[03:11] <Comrade_Vladimir> hmm didnt know i could do thes on windows
[03:12] <ElitePete> slide, yes i had this problem yesterday, should burn @ full speed now.
[03:12] <linas5> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modues/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:12] <linas5> i get that when i try doing that modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:12] <linas5> =x
[03:12] <eruin_> hope this isn't a repeat, but I'm wondering if any of you might know what kernel modules need be in place for synaptics touchpads to respond
[03:12] <silverton> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:13] <windowmaker> hey guys, every time i boot up ubuntu my permissions for a certain system file change back, and i want it to have permissions of 777 and be owned by my own user account, is there any way to set it up so when ubuntu boots up it automatically does "chown windowmaker /the/system/file/i/want/to/own" and "chmod 777 /the/system/file/i/want/to/own"
[03:13] <linas5> same
[03:13] <ElitePete> windowmaker, could make it a terminal app? and put it into startup
[03:13] <windowmaker> ElitePete: how would i go about doing that?
[03:14] <fenris> hm, i have a problem when i try to boot an ubuntu 2.6.12-10 kernel, it gets a kernel panic saying "invalid compressed format" and before, it says "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data"
[03:14] <ElitePete> windowmaker, one second
[03:14] <fenris> 2.6.12-9 works fine, any ideas?
[03:15] <linas5> hmm
[03:15] <s0n1cm0nk3y> Um, i used automatix, great script btw, but I need support for .m4v's to watch diggnation, anyone have any idea?
[03:15] <linas5> anyone else got an idea of what i should do to get my wifi working?
[03:16] <set_> linas5: don't use WPA. that's for sure.
[03:16] <s0n1cm0nk3y> linas5, what version of ubuntu are you using, and have you heard of automatix?
[03:16] <windowmaker> dump it for wires
[03:16] <linas5> lol
[03:16] <ElitePete> windowmaker, put the file in usr/sbin/
[03:16] <slide> ElitePete, oh wow! yes :) its going at 3.9x now hehe, it wont take 2 hours to burn the dvd! So, is this not enabled for even after I reboot or how do i make it so it is?
[03:16] <varsendagger> !automatix
[03:16] <ubotu> I guess automatix is crap
[03:16] <jerry123> what's the sudo cmd to reconfig video display?
[03:16] <linas5> windowmaker, its a lappy
[03:16] <windowmaker> ElitePete: thanks =3
[03:16] <linas5> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modues/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:16] <linas5> argh
[03:16] <windowmaker> linas5, dump it for a tower
[03:16] <ElitePete>  /usr/sbin/namehere --start-hidden
[03:16] <windowmaker> =3
[03:16] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ubotu, lol, when your lazy, it helps
[03:16] <ElitePete> then do that with sudo.
[03:16] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, s0n1cm0nk3y
[03:16] <linas5> i do have a tower
[03:16] <windowmaker> linas use that
[03:16] <slide> Did DosBubba msg anyone else?
[03:17] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ubotu can you think of a channel I should try to ask?
[03:17] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, s0n1cm0nk3y
[03:17] <wracko> hi people
[03:17] <wracko> someone awake?
[03:17] <linas5> yes
[03:18] <wracko> humm,
[03:18] <wracko> i don't think so
[03:18] <windowmaker> ElitePete,  --start-hidden what do you mean by that?
[03:18] <jerry123> what's the sudo cmd to reconfig video display? or can someone have the bot tell me about ATI?
[03:18] <jerry123> please
[03:18] <redguy> !tell wracko about ask
[03:18] <set_> crimsun: "Trying to associate with 00:0f:cb:9f:3f:ea (SSID='jesus1' freq=0 MHz)" Freq=0 MHz. That's completely wrong. I wonder why it does that. it should be someplace around 2400MH
[03:18] <set_> *MHz
[03:18] <s0n1cm0nk3y> hmm, idea, brb
[03:18] <redguy> !tell jerry123 about ati
[03:19] <redguy> !ati
[03:19] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:19] <redguy> even
[03:19] <jerry123> Thanks
[03:19] <AlexanRO> where can i find kernel-source-2.6.12-1-386? it is not available in any of the repos i have configured apt to use
[03:19] <crimsun> AlexanRO: linux-source-2.6.12
[03:19] <ElitePete> windowmaker, so you won't see the file.
[03:20] <windowmaker> ElitePete, why don't i want to see it?
[03:20] <Linuturk> so, i've installed ubuntu to my primary computer in a dual boot situation
[03:20] <Linuturk> with windows xp
[03:20] <ElitePete> windowmaker, just figured since all it does is change permissions you'd rather not be bothered with it each boot?
[03:20] <wracko> someone have problems installing automatix script in a non-us ubuntu system?
[03:20] <linas5> ugh
[03:20] <silverton> wtf is automatix?
[03:20] <linas5> this thing is so unsucessful
[03:20] <silverton> !automatix
[03:20] <ubotu> I guess automatix is crap
[03:20] <silverton> cool
[03:20] <silverton> if ubotu says it, it's true
[03:21] <ElitePete> eezybreezy is better.
[03:21] <intelikey> !info linux
[03:21] <ubotu> linux: (Generic complete Linux kernel.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:21] <lysis> automatix is a sweet prog.  i don't know why everyone in here says it's not.   it auto installs everything for you.
[03:21] <silverton> lysis, define "everything"
[03:21] <ElitePete> lysis, it also breaks installs.
[03:21] <windowmaker> ElitePete, i'm confused, how do i add those parameters?
[03:21] <nuxGuru> using the DEFault install of Ubuntu Breezy.. does it allow for configuring a dual boot with WinXP w/o destroying the XP install .. by giving accss to the disk partitioning
[03:21] <_jason> lysis, you learn nothing and often breaks systems though
[03:21] <ElitePete> windowmaker, don't bother if you'd rather not :-P
[03:21] <Linuturk> so, i need help with two things. First, i need my NTFS partition with windows to be readable from Ubuntu
[03:21] <lysis> ElitePete, i didn't have any problems with it when i installed on my machine.    i've learned a GREAT deal of linux since i installed it.
[03:21] <linas5> yea....so about this operation not permitted bullshit...
[03:21] <wracko> well, automatix installs w32codecs for me ...
[03:22] <Linuturk> Second, my wireless card :(
[03:22] <ElitePete> apt-get > automatic
[03:22] <lysis> what's easybreezy?
[03:22] <erika> Hi everyone  :)
[03:22] <ElitePete> easybreezy is like automatix but not crap.
[03:22] <windowmaker> ElitePete, i'm still confused on what i'm supposed to do
[03:22] <Linuturk> do I have to share my C: drive to my linux login?
[03:23] <Linuturk> how do I access it?
[03:23] <lysis> ElitePete, why is it "not crap" and where do i get it?
[03:23] <holycow> where is the next version of ubuntu typically available?  i don't see anything onthe website mentioning any interim releases
[03:23] <lysis> !easybreezy
[03:23] <intelikey> !tell Linuturk about ntfs
[03:23] <linas5> Linuturk, FAT?
[03:23] <dooglus> windowmaker: "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh" and add the lines to the end there
[03:23] <Linuturk> it's a NTFS
[03:23] <Linuturk> it should be read only
[03:23] <Linuturk> right?
[03:23] <linas5> wtf?
[03:24] <windowmaker> dooglus: what lines? the ones that change the perms of the file?
[03:24] <erika> I saved a ling to an automatirix toot... should I dump it?
[03:24] <erika> oops... link
[03:24] <dooglus> windowmaker: yes.  chown and chmod or whatever you want to run
[03:24] <Linuturk> it's already mounted
[03:24] <eruin_> could someone tell "arnieboy" at the forums about a nice word called "you" and how it's not to be replaced by "u" ?
[03:24] <Linuturk> it says I don't have permission to view it
[03:24] <redguy> nuxGuru: Ubuntu does allow dualbooting by default, in fact the installer automagically detects any other OSes installed on the hard drive
[03:24] <nuxGuru> TY
[03:24] <windowmaker> dooglus, sorry, i accidentaly closed x-chat
[03:25] <dooglus> eruin_: there's not much point trying to educate people about spelling.  mostly they just don't want to know.
[03:25] <windowmaker> dooglus, can you please guide me through this
[03:25] <dooglus> windowmaker: I noticed
[03:25] <dooglus> windowmaker: "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh" and add the lines to the end there
[03:25] <Linuturk> intelikey, it's already mounted, and it appears on the desktop
[03:25] <MrFarts> does ayone know how to disable opaque move in a metacity ?
[03:25] <nuxGuru> next question.. when installoing .. does the install need web access.. am on dialup
[03:25] <windowmaker> dooglus, the lines that chown and chmod it?
[03:25] <dooglus> windowmaker: yes
[03:25] <intelikey> redguy yes wheb it works.
[03:25] <stefano> i have got a question
[03:25] <crimsun> nuxGuru: no, you can install right from the CD.
[03:25] <nuxGuru> I am on AOL.. so I know I need to add teh penggy after install
[03:25] <crimsun> nuxGuru: that's why we keep it to 1 CD
[03:25] <stefano> how am i supposed to access smb-shares via console?
[03:25] <dooglus> windowmaker: which file is it?  and why does it keep changing back?
[03:25] <redguy> intelikey: huh?
[03:26] <MrFarts> nullman, you don't need internet access but you will nearly need it later
[03:26] <intelikey> Linuturk did ya read the link ?
[03:26] <Linuturk> intelikey, it says I don't have permission to access it
[03:26] <erika> I was brave... I yanked my winders drive and stuck in a 20g I had laying around... slicked the whole drive and now I'm forced to do everything with ubuntu.
[03:26] <MrFarts> nullman, i'd actually consider some other distribution besdies ubuntu if you're on dialup
[03:26] <windowmaker> dooglus: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[03:26] <Xappe> Linuturk: add umask=0002 as option for your c-drive in your /etc/fstab
[03:26] <dooglus> stefano: I do it like this: sudo mount -t cifs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty ~/smb/server/dokumenty
[03:26] <MrFarts> nullman, the base install may be a bit limited
[03:26] <adam_> ubuntu only shuts off after i load the updates
[03:26] <intelikey> redguy the installer autodetects other oses "when it works"  :)
[03:26] <nuxGuru> is there anythiong I shgould be aware of .. whn setting up penggy
[03:26] <stefano> thank you dooglus
[03:27] <dooglus> windowmaker: right.  so run the line I told you
[03:27] <Linuturk> Xappe, I'l try that
[03:27] <theconartist> why doesn't fluxbox-generate_menu exist :?
[03:27] <redguy> nuxGuru: AFAIR you don't *have to* be connected to the Internet during the install, everything should be on the CD
[03:27] <windowmaker> dooglus: is it also possible to add, "echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[03:27] <windowmaker> " to it? and do i do it right at the end BEFORE : exit 0
[03:27] <linas5> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted    <--i get that after running sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:27] <dooglus> windowmaker: sure
[03:27] <linas5> any ideas on how to make it work?
[03:27] <windowmaker> dooglus: awesome, thanks
[03:27] <redguy> intelikey: well, that's what "automagically" means, isn't it? :-)
[03:27] <dooglus> windowmaker: after the exit, I suggest
[03:28] <dooglus> windowmaker: it's not an exit, it's a ":"
[03:28] <Linuturk> now, i need a way to download linux-wlan-ng to my linux partiton from windows
[03:28] <ElitePete> is solaris a linux distro or what? i just heard about it.
[03:28] <intelikey> means automatic if it works,   yep that seems to be ub definition of auto
[03:28] <bshumate> ElitePete: not quite
[03:28] <Linuturk> b/c my linux doesn't have net access, b/c the wireless card needs linux-wlan-ng
[03:28] <dooglus> ElitePete: no, it's different.  solaris, hp-ux, linux - they're all kinds of UNIX
[03:28] <redguy> ElitePete: Solaris is a UNIX falvour
[03:28] <windowmaker> dooglus: after? i'm confused now >_<
[03:29] <ElitePete> hmm, is solaris good? or not particularly.
[03:29] <Kyral> ElitePete: Its....different
[03:29] <linas5> im going to kill this damned wifi card
[03:29] <linas5> =x
[03:29] <bshumate> ElitePete: it is awesome...used by many top financial organizations worldwide....has some neat features not found in any Linux
[03:29] <ElitePete> question: when dapper comes out will i have to burn the iso onto cd again?
[03:29] <dooglus> windowmaker: it doesn't matter.  but that line doesn't do anything...  ":" is a command which does nothing, and returns a zero exit status.  I don't know why it's being passed the argument "exit", but it ignores its arguments anyway
[03:29] <AlexanRO> crimsun: ty
[03:29] <ElitePete> bshumate, such as?
[03:29] <intelikey> ElitePete for those that like it, it's the best.  for those that dont, it's the worst....
[03:30] <bshumate> dtrace...look it up
[03:30] <Linuturk> now, i need a way to download linux-wlan-ng to my linux partiton from windows
[03:30] <Linuturk> b/c my linux doesn't have net access, b/c the wireless card needs linux-wlan-ng
[03:30] <adam_> ubuntu shuts my pc down every 2 mins when i load updates
[03:30] <robotgeek> Linuturk: still fighting, eh?
[03:30] <windowmaker> dooglus: it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/468596 , is that okay?
[03:30] <bigmac99> can someone help me get my printer working with ubuntu?
[03:30] <windowmaker> dooglus: is it okay to reboot?
[03:30] <Linuturk> robotgeek, yes, i've got ubuntu installed now
[03:30] <ElitePete> question: when dapper comes out will i have to burn the iso onto cd again?
[03:30] <redguy> adam_: this is odd
[03:31] <adam_> i know
[03:31] <Linuturk> robotgeek, now I need a way to get linux-wlan-ng to ubuntu to install, without using synaptic
[03:31] <dooglus> windowmaker: looks fine.  I put my extra lines after the ": exit 0", but like I say, that's up to you
[03:31] <ElitePete> Linuturk, burn it onto cd?
[03:31] <windowmaker> okay, thanks dooglus, i'll reboot and see if it works, bye
[03:31] <adam_> redguy: any sug.
[03:31] <robotgeek> Linuturk: the drivers must be loaded, you can try to install wireless-tools package from the install c
[03:31] <Linuturk> robotgeek, but still use the package. I have a usb stick, i could use that. I just don't know where to download the ubuntu package and it's dependencies
[03:31] <robotgeek> cd
[03:32] <intelikey> putting commands after 'exit #' is futile isn't it?
[03:32] <Linuturk> robotgeek, is there a prism2 module ?
[03:32] <nuxGuru> thanks for the input.. will see if I can get Ubuntu running correctly
[03:32] <Linuturk> robotgeek, for the pcmcia?
[03:32] <redguy> adam_: no information at all?
[03:32] <adam_> ?
[03:33] <robotgeek> Linuturk: yes, i think it's called prism2_cs
[03:33] <adam_> redguy: the screen goes black but pc is still runing
[03:33] <Linuturk> i'll try a modprobe for the prism2_cd
[03:33] <Linuturk> will that load it?
[03:33] <redguy> adam_: is it rebooting?
[03:34] <Linuturk> will i have to load that at every startup?
[03:34] <bigmac99> can someone help me get my printer to work?
[03:34] <redguy> adam_: like if you pressed the 'reset' switch
[03:34] <adam_> redguy i have to press button on pc
[03:34] <Linuturk> cs*
[03:34] <windowmaker> dooglus: it worked!!!! thanks heaps man, all my base are belong to you
[03:34] <redguy> adam_: hmm, and this happens when you download updates?
[03:34] <mobus> upon uncommenting Universe and Muliteverse lines in sources.list, APT gives me an error in the terminal that says that packages could not be found.  some help please?
[03:34] <tod_kon> Hello... I need help with getting my Palm to sync with Ubuntu Linux
[03:34] <adam_> redguy: yeah
[03:34] <redguy> adam_: only then?
[03:34] <tod_kon> I don't seem to have a /dev/ttyUSB*
[03:35] <Linuturk> robotgeek, so modprobe prism2_cs should load it? will i have to do that at every startup?
[03:35] <adam_> redguy: yep
[03:35] <redguy> adam_: this is very odd
[03:35] <robotgeek> Linuturk: if it loads it, you can set it autoload at boot
[03:35] <beelzebub1987> Who's intersted in making their own 2d game?
[03:35] <Linuturk> where do you set that at?
[03:35] <adam_> redguy: i thought it was video card driver but it works fine when i dont update
[03:35] <redguy> adam_: can't think of anything that would cause such cymptoms
[03:36] <intelikey> dpkg switch to force removal ?
[03:36] <robotgeek> Linuturk: /etc/modules
[03:36] <redguy> adam_: sorry
[03:36] <Mike_2> I'm looking to upgrade my desktop (currently 5.04) to the newest release hopefully solving my intel915 chipset issues i've been having. Where do I add the new URI repository on the pre-upgrade instructions?
[03:37] <adam_> how do u load vid drivers by the way
[03:37] <adam_> i have ati radeon 9200
[03:37] <robotgeek> !tell Mike_2 about breezy
[03:37] <tomaj> !tell adam_ about ati
[03:38] <mobus> upon uncommenting Universe and Muliteverse lines in sources.list, APT gives me an error in the terminal that says that packages could not be found.  some help please?
[03:38] <robotgeek> mobus: did you apt-get update
[03:38] <Mike_2> Thanks, i'm looking at that guide actually at the moment, but I don't see under the repository section where to add that URI, only the current repository lists...
[03:38] <ElitePete> !tell elitepete about ati
[03:38] <mobus> umm... no... doesn't that update to breezy?
[03:38] <robotgeek> Mike_2: that's it. replace all hoary with breezy
[03:39] <beelzebub1987> mobus
[03:39] <beelzebub1987> sorry I can't pm you back
[03:40] <beelzebub1987> for some wierd reason
[03:40] <beelzebub1987> one sec
[03:40] <mobus> ok
[03:40] <beelzebub1987> how do you register on freenode lol
[03:40] <beelzebub1987> I'm new to this server =(
[03:41] <crimsun>  /msg nickserv help register
[03:41] <beelzebub1987> ahh
[03:41] <beelzebub1987> thanks
[03:41] <mobus>  /msg nickserv register <pass> <email>
[03:41] <intelikey> postfix can not be dpkg-reconfigured and can not be apt-get --force-yes removed      what are my options here ?
[03:41] <stefano> how can i put a variable in a bash-script?
[03:41] <robotgeek> intelikey: why would you want to do that :)
[03:42] <Noah0504> What video formats will Totem play "out of the box?"
[03:42] <intelikey> robotgeek because it crashes the dpkg-reconfigure -a     it has to be fixed.
[03:42] <robotgeek> stefano: www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[03:42] <stefano> thanks :)
[03:42] <ElitePete> Noah0504, almost none.
[03:42] <intelikey> robotgeek you got a better idea ?
[03:42] <beelzebub1987> k
[03:43] <Noah0504> ElitePete, So there isn't a video format that is somewhat the Linux standard like OGG?
[03:43] <robotgeek> intelikey: were you planning on replacing postfix with something else?
[03:43] <intelikey> not particularly
[03:44] <adam_> how do u get ati radeon drivers
[03:44] <MrFarts> adam_, which radeon card ?
[03:44] <davidleeroth> is there a way to update my system from 32 to 64 bit?
[03:44] <adam_> radeon 9200
[03:44] <intelikey> probably with another distro.......    ub has been installed two days.  that's a record here.
[03:44] <MrFarts> adam_, ati has proprietary drivers available for linux
[03:44] <robotgeek> intelikey: you could try the ugly hack of removing the offending instruction from the postfix post-rm/pre-rm script
[03:44] <erika> Hi everyone. I'm Erika, and I'm a total Linux newbie. I've been trying different live distros in my effort to dump windows and I must say I'm impressed with Ubuntu 5.10. It works with EVERYTHING in my system. So... I installed Flash. That worked. Then I installed XMMS. That DIDN'T work. Well... it didn't do MP3 streams on the net. Damn Small Linux does it off the CD. I did a bunch of Googling and it seems Ubuntu disables MP3. How d
[03:44] <erika> o I get MP3 streams on XMMS with Ubuntu? (I want my xmas music back!)
[03:44] <jerry123> what's the sudo command to redo your video setup?  it's like sudo dpkg reconfig something?
[03:44] <johnw> anyone know where to get the .wmv plugin for mplayer/
[03:44] <johnw> ?
[03:45] <adam_> after i download it doesnt open
[03:45] <adam_> it says error
[03:45] <tomaj> bob2 are you there?
[03:45] <MrFarts> johnw, it's in the win32-codecs package or such
[03:45] <tomaj> Seveas, can i pm you for a sec please
[03:45] <MrFarts> johnw, in multiverse
[03:45] <davidleeroth> is there a way to update my system from 32 to 64 bit?
[03:45] <Linuturk> robotgeek, no prism2_cs module
[03:45] <intelikey> robotgeek mmmk    or even "rm `dpkg -l postfix` "     maybe...
[03:46] <MrFarts> davidleeroth, if that made any sense perhaps someone woould answer
[03:46] <robotgeek> Linuturk: okay, i will help you building it from source, then
[03:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: :)
[03:46] <adam_> MrFarts: after i download the driver it doesnt let me open them
[03:46] <dooglus> jerry123: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <jerry123> dooglus, Thank you soo much Dooglus
[03:46] <MrFarts> adam_, what do you mean "doesn't let you open them" ?
[03:46] <Linuturk> robotgeek, what about linux-wlan-ng?
[03:46] <bigmac99> can someone help me get my hp laserjet 2100 to work?
[03:46] <Linuturk> robotgeek, it says it supports the card
[03:47] <robotgeek> Linuturk: i'm downloading to read thedocumentation, one sec
[03:47] <MrFarts> adam_, the driver is mostly likely in the form of an X.org module
[03:47] <Linuturk> robotgeek, thanks
[03:47] <adam_> MrFarts: it says error when i click on it
[03:47] <MrFarts> adam_, read the installation guide; i'm sure it's all explained
[03:47] <dooglus> erika: see ubotu's link below:
[03:47] <dooglus> !mp3
[03:47] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:47] <MrFarts> adam_, that's why you read the installation guide instead of mindlessly clicking on it
[03:47] <bigmac99> when I printer I get a garbled line at the top of the page and then about 20 or so blank sheets of paper
[03:47] <bigmac99> any suggestions?
[03:47] <MrFarts> adam_, you most likely have to install it from the commandline
[03:47] <erika> ok.. thanks dooglas
[03:48] <adam_> MrFarts: it said to open the terminal and type in somethin and when i typed it in it said the directory didnt exist
[03:48] <xtristramx> im using two monitors with twinview on one agp card. i have a spare pci ati rage ii that has an RCA out (because my TV doesnt have svideo in). is there anyway i can configure both cards to run both monitors and the tv?
[03:48] <erika> I'll click on the link and save it... thanks guys  ;)
[03:48] <MrFarts> adam_, the directory probably doesnt' exist
[03:49] <MrFarts> adam_, use some common sense
[03:49] <adam_> MrFarts: i loaded the files to file system
[03:49] <MrFarts> adam_, you'll figure it out
[03:50] <MrFarts> adam_, this is too basic to warrant discusisng
[03:50] <adam_> i'll try
[03:50] <MrFarts> adam_, if you have a real problem i'll help you
[03:50] <adam_> thanks
[03:50] <erika> The link's not working. I'll paste it.
[03:50] <robotgeek> Linuturk: lsmod | grep prism
[03:50] <Linuturk> robotgeek, shows nothing
[03:51] <Mike_2> When upgrading,  to badger via synaptic package manager, I have multiple software sources (security,updates,binary,source,etc...) should I be changing all these values to the wiki ones (ommiting the security ones as they should be the same...)?
[03:51] <robotgeek> Linuturk: hmm, okay.
[03:51] <BoukenPink> Erm... Bittorrent seems to be blocked by something, and it's always yellow-lighted... On windows, I had to go into a port forwarding thing to make it work, and it uses the same ports on linux... but it doesn't seem to be working? :3
[03:51] <intelikey> i like to use -ie for those greps cause they may throw a cap in there Linuturk
[03:51] <bulio> how can I look at filesizes for programs, as an overview?
[03:51] <bulio> I wanna see which I dont use, and can remove
[03:51] <dooglus> Mike_2: what do you mean, "wiki ones"?  you should just be changing "hoary" to "breezy"
[03:51] <robotgeek> Linuturk: and you don't have access to the internet on the linux machine, i presume
[03:52] <ElitePete> BoukenPink, download firestarter
[03:52] <intelikey> bulio du
[03:52] <Linuturk> robotgeek, correct
[03:52] <bulio> in cmd line?
[03:52] <freelove> in upgrades i see linux-image something......should i upgrade that?
[03:52] <Linuturk> intelikey, and, i did a plain lsmod and read through them all
[03:52] <sethk> bulio, I have a script that finds all files in a directory and its subdirectories, and lists them in size order
[03:52] <sethk> bulio, for a single directory, you can do --sort=size
[03:52] <sethk> bulio, or -lt
[03:52] <foampeace> whats the equivalent to /etc/modules.conf?
[03:52] <bulio> I just wanna see all the programs I have
[03:52] <bulio> like synaptic
[03:52] <sethk> bulio, but that sorts each subdirectory by size
[03:52] <bulio> but their filesize
[03:52] <dooglus> BoukenPink: you'll have to go through port-forwarding again.  your IP address is probably different in ubuntu
[03:52] <sethk> bulio, then how about synaptic?
[03:52] <MrFarts> does anyone here get decent performance out of a radeon 7000/ve
[03:52] <intelikey> bulio i'm not sure what you are asking ?   file sizes ?
[03:53] <MrFarts> my 2d and 3d performance sucks
[03:53] <bulio> I only have 8.4GB space
[03:53] <dooglus> BoukenPink: don't download firestarter - it won't help you
[03:53] <bulio> I wanna remove stuff i dont use
[03:53] <bulio> that take up lots of space
[03:53] <ElitePete> dooglus, probably not different actually..? do you mean external or internal
[03:53] <robotgeek> Linuturk: hmm, okay..let's just do it manually then. you have a USB stick on you? to transfer files? also you need the install cd
[03:53] <sethk> bulio, only?  That's more than enough if you don't go hog wild.
[03:53] <MrFarts> or maybe metacity 2d sucks
[03:53] <MrFarts> who knows
[03:53] <dooglus> ElitePete: I mean intermal
[03:53] <dooglus> internal
[03:53] <Linuturk> robotgeek, i have both
[03:53] <ElitePete> dooglus, oh yes then certanly.
[03:53] <bulio> sethk: I'm getting an external HD soon
[03:53] <sethk> bulio, can't you just use synaptic to remove stuff you don't want on the machine?
[03:53] <bulio> for my music and movies
[03:53] <dooglus> ElitePete: I'm guessing he set up a static IP in Windows, but ubuntu is using dhcp
[03:53] <sethk> bulio, ok, but 8 gig is a lot of room, although not for movies, I guess.
[03:53] <ElitePete> dooglus, yep
[03:54] <intelikey> bulio no you don't.    you think you do but linux and more especially ub is so interdependant that it is not worth the effert.
[03:54] <bulio> ok
[03:54] <bulio> well, Im getting an extern HD
[03:54] <bulio> Ill put movies etc. on there
[03:54] <bulio> and keep the internal 8.4 for ubuntu
[03:54] <lysis> libsdl-sound1.2
[03:54] <robotgeek> Linuturk: put the install cd in the linux machine, and "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[03:54] <ElitePete> bulio, external hd's are ripoffs
[03:54] <lysis> that is not in apt.  where would i find it for ubuntu?
[03:54] <freelove> in upgrades i see linux-image something......should i upgrade that?
[03:54] <bulio> i cant get internal
[03:55] <bulio> this PC only has 1 internal slot
[03:55] <dooglus> bulio: I have an external HD.  a Maxtor 250Gb one.  it doesn't work with ubuntu
[03:55] <robotgeek> bulio: you can get internal, and use a external usb convertor :)
[03:55] <Linuturk> robotgeek, it's dual boot on this machine. give me a minute and i'll log in with another machine
[03:55] <robotgeek> Linuturk: hmm, one sec
[03:55] <dooglus> bulio: it has both USB2 and FireWire interfaces.  Neither works for more than 1Gb or so of transfer.
[03:55] <bulio> maybe I could just get internal
[03:55] <robotgeek> Linuturk: better download the source for linux-wlan before you reboot
[03:55] <bulio> I could get internal, replace this one
[03:55] <Linuturk> robotgeek, source?
[03:55] <dooglus> bulio: it would be cheaper too
[03:56] <Linuturk> robotgeek, where?
[03:56] <robotgeek> Linuturk: i'm pulling up the url, one sec
[03:56] <bulio> but then I would need to upgrade from ubuntu 4.10 to 5.04 to 5.10 :(
[03:56] <dooglus> bulio: or just download or order 5.10
[03:56] <bulio> burnt 6 CDs of breezy, all had debootstrap errors
[03:56] <dooglus> bulio: did you check the md5sum?
[03:56] <intelikey> bulio i've used small hd's and been forced to 'trim ship' many times just to get an install to work.  it is a real pain, specally for a beginner.    you will break things you didn't know existed....   and learn by the 'try it, and reformat' methood is ugly with a capital UG
[03:57] <bulio> is it hard to install a new internal HD?
[03:57] <bulio> I'll need to replace this one
[03:57] <robotgeek> Linuturk: give me a minute, i'm trying to confirm a few things. however, download this ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.3.tar.gz and store it on a USB stick
[03:57] <bulio> thanks guys
[03:57] <intelikey> no it's pretty easy to put drives in a box.
[03:57] <dooglus> bulio: perhaps you could copy your current install onto the new disk before removing the old disk
[03:58] <bulio> how?
[03:58] <dooglus> bulio: you can put 2 devices on a single IDE cable
[03:58] <bulio> because this PC has only one hard drive slot
[03:58] <BoukenPink> It's too bad my ISP's site is no help at all, aside from: "If you need help, try looking at these linux sites."
[03:58] <intelikey> provided the cable has three plugs ^
[03:58] <dooglus> bulio: you don't need to have a drive in a slot for it to work
[03:59] <intelikey> hehhe i've installed os's with the hd lying on the ps  :)
[03:59] <foampeace> where do i put this line options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8
[03:59] <chapium> ack
[03:59] <BoukenPink> I have no idea what to do. >.>
[03:59] <dooglus> BoukenPink: do you remember how you set up the windows box?  did you set a fixed internal IP address when you were doing the port forwarding setup?
[03:59] <bulio> so I just take out the old HD, put in new one
[03:59] <bulio> put in ubuntu disk
[03:59] <Linuturk2> robotgeek, can we go to pm? this client doesn't have autocomplete :(
[03:59] <bulio> and bot up?
[04:00] <chapium> My cd drive is on the fritz.  I can boot from it, but I cannot get the installer to finish.  Is there a way to get everything installed over the net?
[04:00] <bulio> *boot
[04:00] <dooglus> bulio: that would be the easiest way, yes.  but you'd lose your current data
[04:00] <bulio> ok
[04:00] <bulio> this is an emachines etower 533
[04:00] <bulio> I think its got only 1 drive bay
[04:00] <foampeace> ANYONE know where to put this for module nvidia --> options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8
[04:00] <BoukenPink> dooglus, there was a set up program, and then there's like this website thing for the port forwarding.
[04:01] <intelikey> i think you'll find other internal bays bulio
[04:01] <dooglus> BoukenPink: do you intend to use the Windows box and the ubuntu box at the same time?  Or is it a single dual-boot box?
[04:01] <BoukenPink> dooglus, it's dual-boot.
[04:01] <dooglus> BoukenPink: so this is what you need to do:
[04:01] <robotgeek> Linuturk: sorry, was away.
[04:02] <dooglus> BoukenPink: boot into XP, find out what IP address it uses on your LAN, then boot into ubuntu and set it to use the same IP address
[04:02] <bulio> in etower 533i?
[04:02] <BoukenPink> dooglus, sounds simple enough... :3
[04:02] <dooglus> BoukenPink: or, if you like, to avoid booting into XP, look at the router's port-forwarding config, and see where it's currently forwarding bittorrent packets to, and set your IP address to match
[04:02] <Linuturk> robotgeek, it's ok, can we go to pm?
[04:02] <Linuturk> aka, query?
[04:03] <dooglus> don't do it, robotgeek.  he'll start talking dirty to you.
[04:03] <Linuturk> Seveas, hey, and hello
[04:03] <intelikey> bulio  i think so.  but you own the box and i can't see through the inet connection to look inside  :)
[04:03] <BoukenPink> dooglus, how do I do the IP address setting part?
[04:03] <Linuturk> dooglus, that's only to you :-P
[04:03] <Jinkguns> Hi, I have a bit of a dilemma, I need to use a custom kernel (to compile special kernel modules to run a Scanning Tunneling Electron Microscope) but I also need to use Direct Rendering for 3D information display. As I understand it, the custom kernel option dosen't support the fglrx package which I normally use to enable direct render. Do I have any other options?
[04:03] <dooglus> BoukenPink: you click on 'system' at the top of the screen, then 'admin', then 'networking'
[04:03] <robotgeek> dooglus: :)
[04:03] <freelove> in upgrades i see linux-image something......should i upgrade that? PLZ SAY!
[04:04] <Linuturk> Jinkguns, aren't you on Relic ?
[04:04] <dooglus> freelove: yes
[04:04] <dooglus> freelove: then you'll need to reboot, too
[04:04] <s0n1cm0nk3y> can someone tell me how to get mplayer to use skins ive downloaded for it?
[04:04] <Jinkguns> The only Relic I know is a game development company. ;)
[04:05] <dooglus> BoukenPink: then select your network interface, click properties, select 'static' in configuration and supply the other fields it asks for
[04:05] <Hyperlink> crimsun: My sound is working now. Worked after a reboot.
[04:05] <Linuturk> Jinkguns, right, Relicnews. Are you on their irc now and then?
[04:05] <Hyperlink> crimsun: Thanks for all your help man. I really appreciate it.
[04:05] <freelove> dooglus: is the upgrade neccessary? any benefits?
[04:05] <crimsun> Hyperlink: good.
[04:05] <dooglus> freelove: it's a security thing I think
[04:05] <Jinkguns> Yes. Before I was banned off the network. ;)
[04:06] <Linuturk> jinkguns, well, i'm still there :-P
[04:06] <intelikey> howto use 'yes' for an app's readline ?
[04:06] <dooglus> freelove: is this a new breezy install?  'cos the kernel update was a long time ago now.
[04:06] <Jinkguns> For discussing windows warez, no less.
[04:06] <Jinkguns> Closing Link: Jinkguns[adsl-69-210-27-217.dsl.lgtpmi.ameritech.net]  (User has been banned from HWCommunity (You are banned from this network))
[04:06] <intelikey> app < yes        ?
[04:06] <dooglus> freelove: it's from 22nd November, right?
[04:07] <bulio> thanks guys
[04:07] <bulio> I'll buy a new HD
[04:07] <freelove> dooglus: yes , yes:)
[04:07] <Jinkguns> So uh, any ideas on what i should do?
[04:08] <CA|Ne> Anybody who have time to answere a question on grub?
[04:08] <BoukenPink> dooglus, could it have anything to do with the hostname of my linux partition being different than the XP partition?
[04:08] <Jinkguns> I might, CA
[04:08] <intelikey> CA|Ne not until you ask it.
[04:08] <CA|Ne> hehe
[04:08] <CA|Ne> ...
[04:09] <s0n1cm0nk3y> anyone know?
[04:10] <freelove> dooglus: i hope it wont make my system unbootable!
[04:10] <CA|Ne> After I have installed ubuntu x86 and try to boot I get a grub 17 error and when I alter the "plug and play" os thing in the bios i only get a grub error 21... What is wrong?
[04:10] <chapium> anyone here have experience with installing ubuntu from floppy? (debian floppy anyways)
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> h
[04:10] <ubuntu> hh
[04:11] <ubuntu> hh
[04:11] <adam_> when i go into terminal and type command to load vid drivers it says permission denied
[04:11] <Jinkguns> spambot, fire in the hole.
[04:11] <intelikey> s0n1cm0nk3y should be as easy as putting them in the right dir and clicking on the options button     but i've not tried it.
[04:11] <Jinkguns> CA, have you tried googling the error codes?
[04:12] <s0n1cm0nk3y> intelikey where is this directory?
[04:12] <erika> Tells me I don't have permission. Guess I don't understand root as well as I thought I did. I installed this thing 2 days ago. I followed the install instructions. It asks me for my password when I do the things you tell me to do. Then it doesn't do them and tells me I don't have permission.
[04:12] <adam_> help please
[04:13] <dooglus> BoukenPink: it could, indeed, depending on how your router decides where to forward the packets to.
[04:13] <CA|Ne> if CA is me... I have googled and think that error 17 is something about the file system... I think ntfs for winxp on the first hdd is screwing grub up :p
[04:13] <dooglus> BoukenPink: of course, you can use a different port for the ubuntu OS if you want to
[04:13] <intelikey> s0n1cm0nk3y idk    'find /use -name <some sike that is already installed> '
[04:13] <dooglus> BoukenPink: bittorrent will run on any port you like - it doesn't have to be 6881
[04:13] <adam_> how do u get permission
[04:13] <intelikey> errr usr  not use ^
[04:14] <dooglus> freelove: the update should leave your current kernel installed, and available as "ubuntuOLD" on the boot menu
[04:15] <erika> This is the newbie IRC, right?
[04:15] <mobus> what do youmean by newbie IRC?
[04:15] <adam_> does anyone know how to overide "permission denied" prompt
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know how to start X with all colors inverted?
[04:15] <mobus> run program with SUDO in front of it in the command line
[04:15] <freelove> dooglus: ok....thanx
[04:16] <intelikey> hehhe i login as root to fix things like that adam_
[04:16] <Jinkguns> CA|Ne, check your grub config file in boot, check what the default boot entry points to.
[04:16] <MrMazda> CD help screens don't say how to get into rescue boot mode. How is that done?
[04:16] <intelikey> but that is not the recomended way.
[04:16] <erika> I mean I'm brand new to Linux, and the support link for new Ubuntu users was to this room.
[04:17] <bshumate> erika: you are probably in the right place for help with Ubuntu, yes.
[04:17] <adam_> mobus: who are u talking to
[04:17] <erika> Well... it wasn't a link. I know how to use IRC... and just about everything else in the world there is to know about using a puter.... except Linux. ;)
[04:18] <CA|Ne> Jinkguns: How can I get acess to edit grub? I am a beginner...
[04:18] <mobus> adam_ you
[04:18] <CA|Ne> hmm... type error...
[04:18] <adam_> mobus: how do i do that
[04:18] <jenco> Ok i got a wierd question ;p, my ati card and my intergrated card do not like each other in linux and when i install my ati card the hotplug module causes a kernel panic how would i blacklist my intel intergrated card from hotplug? ~if that even makes sence :P
[04:19] <jenco> p.s. i can't turn off my intergrated card in the bios or thru jumpers
[04:19] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Hello. Can I install any packages on a running Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:20] <Dattas> hello, i have a question, on v. 5.10, i just installed it but when i try to login to my root account it says i have the wrong password, is the password no longer the password you set for the first user?
[04:20] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : any, or one?
[04:20] <InfoLibre[Frank] > One.
[04:20] <dabaR_> sure, go ahead.
[04:20] <bshumate> !tell Dattas about RootSudo
[04:20] <InfoLibre[Frank] > I mean, an unmodified Ubuntu LiveCD.
[04:20] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : do you understand installation with ubuntu?
[04:20] <intelikey> !root
[04:20] <ubotu> The root password by default is disabled in Ubuntu. You can use sudo to get super user (root) privileges. For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:20] <erika> bsh... thanks. I tried linspire... didn't like the way it picked my pocket. I tried Mepis... the iso didn't boot. I tried Damn Small Linux... it worked great, I made friends in the IRC... but it's a toy, not a desk. I LIKE Ubuntu... but I'm lacking tools. I'm googling, but I also frustrated.
[04:20] <InfoLibre[Frank] > With apt-get, yes.
[04:20] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : ya, go ahead.
[04:20] <dooglus> adam_: put "sudo" in front of the command to run it as root
[04:21] <adam_> ok thank you
[04:21] <InfoLibre[Frank] > And also I'd like to modify the GDM configuration... Can I just change it and restart gdm?
[04:21] <dooglus> Dattas: the root password is locked by default.  you can "sudo -i" to become root.  use your own password
[04:21] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : sure, go ahead. there is a gdm config tool in the menus.
[04:21] <Dattas> thanks much
[04:21] <jenco> how would i blacklist my video card or can i even do that with hotplug?
[04:22] <InfoLibre[Frank] > actually, I'm not even sure there's a GDM on the liveCD. I just want to allow X11 TCP connections, and by default there's a DisallowTCP=true which I don't like
[04:22] <dooglus> erika: what tools are you lacking?
[04:22] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Oh, and one last thing. I know it's a LiveCD, but is there a mechanism for persistence of these settings between reboots, using say a USB flash disk, or even better network storage?
[04:22] <CrazyNorman> My friend has alsa-utils, alsa-base installed, yet has no alsaconf binary anywhere.
[04:22] <bshumate> erika: it takes a good deal of time, and patience most of all.  it is worth it to pursue though.  you can usually get good help in this channel with most all things Ubuntu related.  ask and ye shall receive is the way it (usually) works...
[04:22] <dooglus> InfoLibre[Frank] : it's /etc/gdm/gdm.conf , the gdm config file.  I don't know if the live cd uses gdm either
[04:22] <sethk> hmm., eth0 and eth1 in the network configuration dialog are reversed.
[04:22] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : that will not have to do with gdm, x11 forwarding wont, that is.
[04:23] <erika> dooglas... tools I cannot buy. The tools I need in my head to put it all together.
[04:23] <Manderson> Anyone know if the repositories have firefox 1.5 yet?
[04:23] <dooglus> dabaR_: it does have to do with gdm
[04:23] <InfoLibre[Frank] > It's not x11 forwarding, it's the DisallowTCP setting of GDM.
[04:23] <dabaR_> InfoLibre[Frank] : I do not know personally about the settings thing. Also, do you want to just forward X over ssh?
[04:23] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Nah, no SSH.
[04:24] <dooglus> dabaR_: he wants to have X listen on a port.
[04:24] <InfoLibre[Frank] > I want to use the machine to extend my desktop with synergy
[04:24] <InfoLibre[Frank] > and to be able to run remote applications on my main machine and have them display on the liveCD machine
[04:24] <InfoLibre[Frank] > And this setup works great right now with ubuntu installed on my HD
[04:24] <Chris_Tucker> how can i turn a .zip into a .img?
[04:24] <dooglus> InfoLibre[Frank] : using ssh and forwarding is the better way to do it, of course...
[04:25] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: mkisofs?
[04:25] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: sorry.  I misread.
[04:25] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: what is a .img?
[04:25] <InfoLibre[Frank] > dooglus, no it's not. SSH uses a lot of CPU power and my laptop is weak. Also, this is home and I control the machines. I don't want security because it increases latency and requires way too much CPU power.
[04:25] <Chris_Tucker> dooglus, such as a floppy image? (bootable)
[04:25] <erika> thanks bash... I understand that. I'm a former pilot for a major airline... a former VP for a major UG. I deal with tech stuff well.... but I'm finding Linux to be very frustrating.
[04:25] <dooglus> InfoLibre[Frank] : fair enough then :)
[04:26] <CA|Ne> Jinkguns: How can I get acess to edit grub? I am a beginner...
[04:26] <dooglus> erika: is there anything specific?
[04:26] <intelikey> well crap.  i still cant get gpm to start on boot....
[04:26] <dabaR_> erika: you mean you are finding Ubuntu frustrating, or the kernel?
[04:26] <erika> LOL
[04:26] <Manderson> Anyone know if the repositories have firefox 1.5 yet?
[04:26] <Manderson> All I see is version 1.07
[04:26] <erika> no... I'm just ranting
[04:26] <_jason> Manderson, they do not
[04:26] <Manderson> crap crap.
[04:26] <InfoLibre[Frank] > What do you people think about the HPN patches for OpenSSH?
[04:27] <Manderson> Thanks jason
[04:27] <erika> I do like Ubuntu tho... it's the best linux I've used to date.
[04:27] <CA|Ne> How can I get acess to edit grub?
[04:27] <mobus> thats what they all say
[04:27] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: maybe mkisofs then, but I don't know what format floppy images are in.
[04:28] <me> I want to 'mount' a Windows drive. Here is fdisk of it.
[04:28] <wims> what's the package for mp3 support etc
[04:28] <me> Disk /dev/hdc: 2000 MB, 2000388096 bytes
[04:28] <me> 64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 969 cylinders
[04:28] <me> Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes
[04:28] <me>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:28] <me> /dev/hdc1   *           1         969     1953472+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[04:28] <wims> gstreamer-somthing?
[04:28] <CA|Ne> Are there a page on internet about grub?
[04:28] <l0s3rk1d> hi.. after i install ubuntu.. it wont boot.. i see black screen
[04:28] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell wims about mp2
[04:28] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell wims about mp3
[04:29] <dooglus> me: make a directory to mount it on, then "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /your/mount/dir"
[04:29] <mobus> me: mount -o uid=<yourusername /dev/hdc /mnt windows
[04:29] <me> Hey thanks dooglus - will try that now
[04:29] <dabaR_> CA|Ne: you can try google, I am sure there are many.
[04:29] <InfoLibre[Frank] > Another thing entirely... Does Ubuntu have the ability to log on a Samba/LDAP domain and automatically mount a series of network shares and printers, like a Windows client logging on the same network with roaming profiles would do?
[04:29] <dooglus> CA|Ne: the file to edit is /boot/grub/menu.lst.  use "sudo gedit" to edit it
[04:30] <me> and thanks mobus too
[04:30] <Cody`> can anyone tell me how to make mplayer use ESD?
[04:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Cody` about mplayer
[04:30] <dooglus> mobus: will that work?  /dev/hdc is the whole disk, not a partition.  is it the same as the first partition?
[04:30] <_jason> Cody`, read the bottom of the link ubotu sent you
[04:30] <erika> I think of the kernel as being this indeterminal underlying thing that makes it all work. It boggles my mind. Are there people here that truly understand how the kernel works?
[04:30] <CA|Ne> dooglus: I don't even think I can access anything... Because of the errors! Can I use a live cd to try access the file?
[04:31] <l0s3rk1d> hi.. after i install ubuntu.. it wont boot.. i see black screen.. anyone pleas help?
[04:31] <durt> is it possible to get yahoo mail working in opera's mail client? what should the server settings be?
[04:31] <dooglus> Cody`: put "ao=esd" in ~/.mplayer/config
[04:31] <Cody`> ty
[04:32] <dooglus> CA|Ne: can you boot into ubuntu?
[04:32] <jenco> well i will figure it out after work tommorow i guess gnight peps =)
[04:33] <dooglus> !mplayer
[04:33] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:33] <CA|Ne> dooglus: Nope when I select to boot from my 3rd disk there ubuntu is installed I only get the message: Grub error 17 (or 21)
[04:34] <Knowerrors> anybody here use xawtv?
[04:34] <erika> Is ubotu a bot?
[04:34] <adam_> help! ubuntu keeps shuting my pc off
[04:34] <dooglus> CA|Ne: if you boot from an install CD, you can use control-alt-F2 to get to a terminal prompt, from where you can mount your ubuntu boot partition and edit grub/menu.lst
[04:34] <dooglus> erika: yes
[04:34] <erika> ahhhh.... I see ;)
[04:35] <dooglus> !tell erika about ubotu
[04:35] <dabaR_> dooglus: try mentioning how to get back, this way he may have to reboot.
[04:35] <dooglus> dabaR_: read what I wrote again - he won't want to get back
[04:35] <mobus> !tell mobus about ubotu
[04:35] <erika> Ubuntu is very cool. I'm impressed to the max.
[04:35] <techrush> hi
[04:36] <mobus> erika: that's what Ubuntu is here for
[04:36] <rosen> hey again
[04:36] <dooglus> hi
[04:36] <Linuturk> hey, what was the command I added to allow the reading of the NTFS windows partition?
[04:37] <rosen> is there an equivalent to netlimiter for linux ?
[04:37] <adam_> please anyone help me. my monitor pc keeps shuting off
[04:37] <dabaR_> Hi, what did I eat for lunch? ;) Linuturk
[04:37] <adam_> not monitor my pc
[04:37] <rosen> adam_, pay your electric bill
[04:37] <mobus> Linuturk probably chmod 444 /your/path/to/windowspartition
[04:37] <erika> I shouldn't have let my name dump into the chat.... but I want to be open. Maybe we'll be friends.
[04:37] <adam_> yeah
[04:37] <dabaR_> mobus: for reading?
[04:37] <Linuturk> it mounts already
[04:37] <dabaR_> erika: you and who?
[04:37] <mobus> sry 111
[04:38] <mobus> thanks dabaR_
[04:38] <dabaR_> mobus: man chmod:P 1 is execute. Also, there is a new way, a+r allows read for all. And, that is not very likely what he did.
[04:38] <intelikey> i recon it is ok to rm hdparm  from the startup list ???  there is no special need for it is there ?
[04:38] <mobus> no
[04:38] <adam_> never mind i'll fix it myself
[04:38] <mobus> 4 is execute
[04:39] <Linuturk> it was something i should add to fstab
[04:39] <mobus> 3 is rw
[04:39] <mobus> 2 is w
[04:39] <mobus> 1 is r
[04:39] <Linuturk> and it involved 0002
[04:39] <Linuturk> and some other thing
[04:39] <mobus> and 7 is rwx
[04:39] <mobus> 5 is wx
[04:39] <dooglus> rosen: try running this: "apt-cache search shaper"
[04:39] <Linuturk> it says I don't have the permissions to view that drive
[04:39] <intelikey> in chmod ?
[04:39] <mobus> no rx
[04:39] <mobus> 6 is wx
[04:39] <rosen> will do dooglus thanks
[04:39] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: change the permissions in your fstab
[04:40] <erika> I don't understand the protocal here. Actually, I have't done IRC since before 95. Is brown text important?
[04:40] <Linuturk> to what? and where is fstab?
[04:40] <intelikey> 1=x 2=w 4=r    and add them up it's binarry.
[04:40] <dooglus> mobus: r=4 w=2 x=1
[04:40] <mobus> /etc/fstab
[04:40] <mobus> I think
[04:40] <mobus> prbably wrong
[04:40] <mobus> dooglus wrong man
[04:40] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell Linuturk about fstab
[04:40] <dooglus> mobus: hmmm
[04:40] <erika> Brown seems to be personal
[04:40] <dabaR_> mobus: read the manual.
[04:40] <mobus> you got it backwards
[04:41] <dooglus> mobus: which manual are you reading?
[04:41] <intelikey> mobus no dooglus was correcting you just like i was.
[04:41] <khermans> I can't record sound, but it is coming from my mic and I hear it on the speakers -- I'm using grecord2
[04:41] <mobus> The Linux BIBLE!!!
[04:41] <mobus> a.k.a. CGI
[04:41] <mobus> handbook
[04:41] <dooglus> mobus: r=4 and 4=r are the same thing.  equality is symmetric, so it doesn't matter if you get it backwards.
[04:41] <mobus> no
[04:41] <mobus> by backwards I meant
[04:41] <dooglus> mobus: what matters is if you get it wrong, like what you keep doing
[04:41] <mobus> r=1 w=2 and x=4
[04:41] <khermans> Anyone know why I have issues with recording sounds, if it can be heard passing through from mic to speakers?
[04:42] <intelikey> mobus you are dead wrong on that.
[04:42] <dooglus> mobus: I know that's what you mean, but you're wrong.  why don't you just try it?
[04:42] <intelikey> try it.    chmod 001 file  then read that file.
[04:42] <dooglus> mobus: touch x; chmod 444 x; ls -l x | awk '{print $1}'
[04:43] <mobus> FINE YOU WIN!
[04:43] <mobus> oh now I remember
[04:43] <mobus> I think it was WSFTP that tould me numeric permissions
[04:43] <intelikey> lol
[04:44] <mobus> so that's why my 444 permissions wouldn't execute....
[04:44] <intelikey> yep
[04:44] <intelikey> that's why.
[04:44] <mobus> okeydokeythen
[04:44] <dooglus> Linuturk: you're thinking of umask=0 I guess
[04:44] <dabaR> mobus: they have that new system, with xwr which is easier to remember sometimes.
[04:45] <dooglus> Linuturk: a umask is like the numbers that mobus was talking about, but inverted
[04:45] <intelikey> umask subtracts the number given from 7  so umask=2  is mod=5
[04:45] <johnw> where is the .wmv plugin for mplayer/
[04:45] <johnw> ?
[04:46] <intelikey> !codecs
[04:46] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:46] <khermans> Anyone know sound problems?
[04:46] <crimsun> khermans: generally.
[04:46] <dooglus> khermans: we all run ubuntu - of course we know sound problems - we experience them every day :)
[04:46] <khermans> crimsun, i can hear my voice going through the mic an out the speakers, but grecord2 wont record it
[04:47] <khermans> also, audacity reports issues as well
[04:47] <lysis> anybody here try to install LMMS yet?   i'm having a great GREAT deal of dependency problems. :(
[04:47] <batteri> hey guys, would anyone help me install the font tahoma.exe in my .wine directory
[04:47] <lysis> i'm new to the whole dpkg system . . .   is there something like apt-get for the dpkg debian system?  or a way to add all the files on debian's massive site to repositories?  anything . . .
[04:48] <khermans> lysis, hrmm i hadnt heard of it == im gonna try this once i get sound working
[04:48] <dooglus> lysis: apt-get IS for the debian system
[04:48] <intelikey> lysis yes apt-get
[04:48] <batteri> cmon anyone
[04:48] <lysis> well then why is apt-get not finding any dependencies when i try to install them individually for lmms?
[04:48] <dooglus> batteri: are you sure that fonts come in .exe files?
[04:49] <lysis> lmms requires certain things, so i tried to apt-get them and it didn't work, so then i tried downloading them individually and it turned into a big mess and i had to remove all the unfinished dpkg installations.
[04:49] <james> can anyone in here tell me or help me with setup up my java for firefox
[04:49] <khermans> batteri, try executing it, or try cabextract
[04:49] <dooglus> lysis: "sudo apt-get install lmms" - that has problems?
[04:49] <lysis> dooglus, yes.  it doesn't work.
[04:49] <james> and i need help with my ndiswrapper
[04:49] <crimsun> khermans: what sort of audacity issues?
[04:49] <lysis> can't find it.
[04:49] <khermans> james, follow the wiki restrictedformats directions, you dont need to set it up manually
[04:49] <intelikey> yeah .exe looks like a self-extracting zip archive to me
[04:49] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a slight problem- whenever I get to the GDM login page in ubuntu it is not at the same resolution as when I'm in my account. In my Xorg.conf file I've removed all the resolutions from the Mode line except 1600x1200, but to no avail. Any suggestions on fixing this?
[04:49] <techrush> lysis lmms isnt worth using anyways..its a crappy program
[04:49] <khermans> crimsun, no sound at all can be recorded
[04:49] <james> trying to setup my wireless card
[04:49] <dooglus> lysis: it seems to work for me.  it says: The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:49] <dooglus>   libqt3-mt libsamplerate0 libsdl-sound1.2 lmms-common
[04:50] <batteri> i need to move in to the folder, but it says i dont have the rights
[04:50] <batteri> it*
[04:50] <lysis> it isn't found by apt-get
[04:50] <crimsun> khermans: do you stop esd before launching it?
[04:50] <james> <--------------- needs help
[04:50] <dooglus> lysis: apt-get finds in it the breezy-backports repository for me
[04:50] <lysis> and then i downloaded it and dpkg -i it and now it's IN apt-get because it's all messed up.  ARGH
[04:50] <intelikey> !repos
[04:50] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:50] <dooglus> lysis: maybe you need to add that, I don't know
[04:50] <khermans> crimsun, how?
[04:50] <techrush> james i used easy ubuntu to get my java working in firefox
[04:50] <lysis> i have all the sources . . .
[04:50] <khermans> crimsun, i tried disabling sound events, etc
[04:50] <james> how do i do that
[04:51] <james> tech how do i use easy ubuntu
[04:51] <dooglus> lysis: you've got something wrong, or it would find it
[04:51] <khermans> dooglus, lmms isnt in the repos
[04:51] <lysis> dooglus, like i said; it couldn't find it and now my apt-get is all messed up.
[04:51] <dooglus> khermans: it's in breezy-backports
[04:51] <uscfan> hey everyone
[04:51] <techrush> james: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629
[04:51] <khermans> dooglus, oh...
[04:51] <uscfan> hey everyone
[04:52] <khermans> dooglus, im not risking killing my libc today ;-)
[04:52] <lysis> dooglus, apt-get shows lmms because i tried to dpkg -i the program and it wouldn't because i didn't have the right dependencies and it failed the install, then all the dependencies sucked and i couldn't install them or something.
[04:52] <lysis> bad experience . . .
[04:52] <james> tech do you know how to use ndiswrapper
[04:52] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a slight problem- whenever I get to the GDM login page in ubuntu it is not at the same resolution as when I'm in my account. In my Xorg.conf file I've removed all the resolutions from the Mode line except 1600x1200, but to no avail. Any suggestions on fixing this?
[04:52] <lysis> techrush, if LMMS sucks, what do you recommend?  i want a sequencer.
[04:52] <lysis> like fruity loops.
[04:52] <techrush> no james luckily my laptop uses madwifi
[04:52] <techrush> lysis: seq24
[04:52] <techrush> or hydrogen if you just want drums
[04:52] <dooglus> lysis: "sudo apt-get -f install" should fix it
[04:52] <crimsun> khermans: uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[04:53] <khermans> i did that too, but do i need to logout and back in?
[04:53] <batteri> Look guys, please. I need to install the fonts to wine, but it says i dont have the rights to the folder, so i cant paste the files in there. anyone who knows how i can unlock the folder?
[04:53] <crimsun> khermans: nope. Ok, what sound card are you using?
[04:53] <lysis> 3 not fully installed or removed.
[04:53] <lysis> Need to get 300kB of archives.
[04:53] <lysis> After unpacking 1293MB disk space will be freed.
[04:53] <lysis> You are about to do something potentially harmful.
[04:53] <lysis> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[04:53] <khermans> crimsun, still fails
[04:53] <khermans> crimsun, nforce3 laptop
[04:53] <khermans> builtin
[04:53] <dooglus> batteri: put "sudo" in front of whatever command is failing
[04:53] <lysis> i guess that didn't work as planned. . .  sorry for the paste.
[04:53] <james> ok tech
[04:53] <batteri> dooglus,  it isnt about that
[04:54] <james> well i need help with my wifi
[04:54] <khermans> crimsun, snd_intel8x0
[04:54] <james> i have a network everywhere NWP11B
[04:54] <james> ATX100
[04:54] <khermans> crimsun, it has worked on here in Warty
[04:54] <uscfan> i got a bit of a problem... I have had windows xp installed for a long time and its began to get loaded with crap. I have always loved and use linux all the time, but i cant use it on my laptop with my wireless card so i just continued to use windows. So now I was going to backup all my data, reformat and install ubuntu and windows. So i got a 2.5'' to 3.5'' ide adaptor and connected my laptop hard drive to my sisters computer to ba
[04:54] <uscfan> ckup all my data. It worked fine so then I returned the hard drive to my laptop to reformat and install windows and ubuntu. The only problem, my bios does not detect the hd any mroe. The HD still works in my sisters computer though, and ubuntu live can read all my data and listen to all my music. Also, windows xp installs and ubuntu installs but the bios never boots the HD. Anyone know of this problem, anyone know how i might go abo
[04:54] <blockweg> blockweg
[04:54] <uscfan> ut fixing it?
[04:54] <khermans> crimsun, and also possibly Hoary
[04:54] <batteri> i need to paste the font inside the folder
[04:55] <athauglas> hey everyone.
[04:55] <dooglus> batteri: you're telling me you don't have permission to write to a folder, and asking how to get permissions.  "sudo" should do that.
[04:55] <crimsun> khermans: ah, are you using a custom ~/.asoundrc ?
[04:55] <khermans> crimsun, sound goes in through the mic and out the speakers just fine, so everything is getting to where it should -- but i cant record it
[04:55] <crimsun> khermans: or /etc/asound.conf ?
[04:55] <Mike_2> When upgrading to the newest kernel has anyone had their system hang at "hotplug subsystem"? Everything works fine until I get to that item, then the boot GUI drops and system hangs
[04:56] <khermans> crimsun, no -- i dont think anything has been changed here
[04:56] <batteri> dooglus, and where am i supposed to do that? This is btw the first time i use linux
[04:56] <crimsun> khermans: make sure you've selected the proper mic _and_ capture in alsamixer
[04:56] <Linuturk> my boot gui drops when it goes to network devices
[04:56] <crimsun> khermans: sorry, but the coffee shop is closing, so I need to go
[04:56] <khermans> crimsun, i definitely did
[04:56] <david_m_e> i have been using a KVM switch to switch back and forth between my ubuntu box and my xp.  I just remembered that linux can string ouy terminals and that windows comes with a terminal program. so, i need to know what all i will need; a serial cable(i have a null modem), how to redirect one of the consoles(eg ctrl-alt-f?) to the rs232 port on the -ix box, and how to get ubuntu's gui started
[04:56] <khermans> crimsun, i get an error in audactiy, but not in grecorded
[04:56] <Mike_2> MIne doesn't even get to that part
[04:56] <ApX> anyone know of a good dark theme?
[04:57] <athauglas> I'm using an IBM T43, and am having trouble with the wireless card.  I can find networks but I cant connect to any, even unprotected ones.  Ideas? =/
[04:57] <BenC> david_m_e: You cannot run the GUI over the serial cable
[04:57] <dooglus> batteri: I don't know, sorry.  I've never installed executable fonts before.
[04:57] <james> tech how do i use easy ubuntu
[04:57] <Mike_2> Whats wierd is if I drop down to a prev. kernel everything works fine
[04:57] <amilcar> I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time..... I'm a long time redhat user....
[04:57] <techrush> james its a script...just click on it and select run in terminal
[04:57] <amilcar> How can i change the refresh rate of my monitor, for God sake!
[04:57] <BenC> Mike_2: what kernel version has the problem? 2.6.12-10?
[04:58] <david_m_e> BenC; thanks; too much data, i assume; what would work better?
[04:58] <james> i dont get that for an option
[04:58] <james> you mean when i dl it
[04:58] <BenC> david_m_e: FInd a commercial or free Xserver for Windows
[04:58] <amilcar> Fedora detects all the resolution and refresh rates supported by my monitor...
[04:58] <techrush> yes after you download it
[04:58] <amilcar> ubuntu don't.
[04:58] <Mike_2> BenC: Yep, 2.6.12-10, 2.6.10x works fine, no hang at subsystem
[04:58] <BenC> david_m_e: or start X with vncserver
[04:59] <amilcar> and X is showing some noise....
[04:59] <BenC> Mike_2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSystemCrash
[04:59] <james> it dont give me an option to run
[04:59] <james> all it does is open it and lets me view it
[04:59] <Mike_2> BenC: Thanks, i'll peer through that doc.
[05:00] <david_m_e> benc, you lost me... i assume xserver is a program; what i am asking is: if i am right, and a serial connection is too slow, what do i do? find a program (such as xserver that just exchanges the necessary data - not echo the entire screen image), or, use a higher speed hardware link?
[05:00] <Linuturk> also, my windows NTFS partion is automounting, and it shows up under /media/ ; I'm being told that I don't have permission to read the drive
[05:00] <Linuturk> i was told adding something to the fstab file
[05:00] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: you'll need to change the perms in your fstab
[05:00] <BenC> david_m_e: the serial console is not a matter of speed, it's a matter of that it does not do graphical interfaces
[05:00] <james> tech you still there
[05:00] <BenC> david_m_e: it is text only
[05:00] <intelikey> this is way past being anoying.  anyone here good with init scripts ?
[05:00] <Linuturk> i've got fstab open
[05:01] <Linuturk> what do I add to the hda1?
[05:01] <athauglas> Linuturk - you dont.  all you can do is view its contents, and to do that, go to system >> administration >> disks
[05:01] <intelikey> i need a linux hack master.
[05:01] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: paste your fstab to a pastebin and i'll modify it for you there
[05:01] <david_m_e> benc: so, you are saying that if i press ctrl-alt-f1 to get the 1st console, there is no way to start using a gui (as i am right now) ?
[05:01] <johnblackhorse> !paste
[05:01] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:01] <BenC> david_m_e: if you want to use the ubuntu graphical interface from another computer, that other computer will need an Xserver, and a network connection
[05:01] <batteri> can anyone else tell me how i can get writing rights to my .wine folder?
[05:02] <dooglus> batteri: "sudo chown batteri ~batteri/.wine"
[05:02] <batteri> dooglus, thank you
[05:02] <BenC> david_m_e: you cannot use ctrl+alt+f1 over serial console, it is just one console (not multiple like you do with the monitor)
[05:02] <intelikey> batteri if it's a linux native   just chown it.
[05:02] <durt> yay! FreePOPs is amazing
[05:02] <Linuturk> john, I can't paste it, my ubuntu doesn't have net connect :(
[05:02] <david_m_e> benc: sorry, was just called to dinner, thanks for everything
[05:03] <batteri> intelikey, i dont have any idea of what that means, but it sounds good as hell
[05:03] <intelikey> batteri exactly what dooglus told you.
[05:03] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: i'm at work atm, so am without my main box. (i'm forgetful without my notes)
[05:03] <amilcar> please, any ideas on how can i set the correct refresh rate of my display????
[05:03] <Linuturk> i can query it to you?
[05:04] <johnblackhorse> Linuturk: ok
[05:04] <fangorious> I seem to have messed up keyboard mappings, the zero/right-paren key, not numpad, this is a laptop, seems to no longer work except in numlock mode
[05:04] <uscfan> hey all
[05:04] <uscfan> i got a bit of a problem... I have had windows xp installed for a long time and its began to get loaded with crap. I have always loved and use linux all the time, but i cant use it on my laptop with my wireless card so i just continued to use windows. So now I was going to backup all my data, reformat and install ubuntu and windows. So i got a 2.5'' to 3.5'' ide adaptor and connected my laptop hard drive to my sisters computer to ba
[05:04] <BoukenPink> My damned internet hates me.
[05:04] <uscfan> uscfan ckup all my data. It worked fine so then I returned the hard drive to my laptop to reformat and install windows and ubuntu. The only problem, my bios does not detect the hd any mroe. The HD still works in my sisters computer though, and ubuntu live can read all my data and listen to all my music. Also, windows xp installs and ubuntu installs but the bios never boots the HD. Anyone know of this problem, anyone know how i might
[05:04] <uscfan>  go abo
[05:04] <uscfan> uscfan ut fixing it?
[05:04] <intelikey> batteri i would sujest you brush up on the chown and chmod commands.    man chown ;man chmod
[05:05] <fangorious> seems home/end don't work for their normal functions either, but I can use the Fn key to effect their extra functions (scroll/num lk
[05:05] <fangorious> is there a way to reset the Keyboard Shortcuts to a default set?
[05:05] <uscfan> can anyone hear me?
[05:05] <uscfan> jeez
[05:06] <fangorious> uscfan, no, but I can read your messages
[05:06] <uscfan> why is taht
[05:06] <uscfan> why can i not speak to everyone?
[05:06] <uscfan> to prevent noobies from spamming and stuff ;) ??
[05:07] <fangorious> uscfan: no, you aren't heard because there's no audio on irc, i'm sure everyone else can read your messages too
[05:07] <uscfan> ooooh
[05:07] <uscfan> i meant
[05:07] <uscfan> can anyone hear me as in, can anyone read my messages
[05:07] <fangorious> uscfan, yeah. it was a failed attempt at being witty
[05:07] <fangorious> (on my part
[05:07] <adam_> my screen keeps going black
[05:07] <uscfan> this is strange because my name is greyed out in xchat and no one but you seems to be hearing me
[05:08] <joedj> uscfan: we can all here you in here
[05:08] <joedj> gah, hear
[05:08] <fangorious> uscfan: quite often, it nobody has an answer to your question, nobody replies to you
[05:08] <uscfan> jeez ok thanks, i thought i was going insane
[05:08] <ordinary> no one save exception is responding to you, as well as me, uscfan
[05:08] <varsendagger>  uscfan i can here you
[05:08] <intelikey> uscfan there may be a way to manuelly set the hd in the bios have you checked for that ?
[05:08] <ordinary> uscfan, should be finre
[05:08] <uscfan> i have tried, my bios doesnt detect the hd at all
[05:08] <linas5> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:08] <linas5> argh
[05:09] <fangorious> anyone? resetting Keyboard Shortcuts to default?
[05:09] <uscfan> which is wierd, because ubuntu and winxp install to it, and i can read and edit data on it from ubuntu live right now
[05:09] <linas5> i get that after doing sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:09] <linas5> any ideas how to fix this thing?
[05:09] <intelikey> uscfan not an autodetect.  manual setup for the hd ?
[05:09] <fangorious> uscfan, so what's the problem if all your OSes can read/write?
[05:09] <intelikey> not sure what bios you have.....
[05:09] <uscfan> the bios doesnt detect it, and therefore doesnt initiate boot to hte drive
[05:09] <adam_> help my screen keeps going black
[05:09] <durt> linas5: do you have the restricted  modules?
[05:09] <kevinix> hi all, i have booted into the live cd on my system to do a grub-install as i've moved around hard-disks.. after chrooting i 'grub-install /dev/hda' but am given the error "/dev/hdb1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." there's only one disk on the machine. any ideas?
[05:10] <varsendagger> hey how do you add rss to thunderbird, i want to add slashdot
[05:10] <fangorious> linas5: did you get the ndiswrapper to go with the kernel you're running?
[05:10] <fangorious> adam_: screen saver?
[05:10] <adam_> no even when im doing something
[05:10] <varsendagger> anyone
[05:11] <linas5> fangorious, huh?
[05:11] <uscfan> F2 is bios, and within the bios i cant do anything to help the situation
[05:11] <uscfan> imma just download smartbootmanager and try and see what i can do with that
[05:11] <intelikey> uscfan have you entered the bios setup on that lappy before ?
[05:11] <fangorious> linas5: you're trying to load a kernel module and it's failing. i was wondering if you grabbed the ndiswrapper which was compiled for the version of the kernel you are running
[05:11] <kevinix> should i try moving to lilo?
[05:11] <me> I run 5.04 hoary and have downloaded 5.10 and copied to CD (readable).  Is it safe to boot from the CD and install 5.1 over 5.04?
[05:12] <uscfan> i got another question though, how difficult would it be to get my wireless card (onboard) working within ubuntu. Its some broadcom chipset
[05:12] <linas5> fangorious, i used whatever synaptic gave me
[05:12] <fangorious> linas5: probably safe then
[05:12] <linas5> argh
[05:12] <linas5> but why wont it load the kernel module
[05:12] <intelikey> ok at least you have tried to set it up mannually uscfan
[05:12] <intelikey> and pardon my lag time.
[05:12] <fangorious> linas5: have you looked /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages for something more detailed?
[05:13] <BoukenPink> I just want working bittorrent~ Is that so much to ask...
[05:13] <durt> linas5: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:13] <linas5> nope
[05:13] <BoukenPink> But my internet has to be all... Blah blah
[05:13] <Jinkguns> ARGH.
[05:13] <uscfan> intelikey, my bios will not let me manually configure the hard drive. IT doesnt even detect it at all so I cant
[05:13] <Agedec> Hey wow my internet is actually working now :S
[05:13] <linas5> durt, my wifi card that im trying to get ndiswrapper for is my only way to connect to the internet...
[05:13] <Jinkguns> THIS IS THE THIRD INSTALL OF UBUNTU THAT WAS RUINED. :/
[05:13] <Jinkguns> Freakin' ati driver. :/
[05:13] <Cimmerian> wow
[05:13] <Jinkguns> I bet it's agp locked pages.
[05:13] <Agedec> Sounds like when i was running Suse...i had to re-install it so much
[05:14] <durt> linas5: it should be on the cd then
[05:14] <Jinkguns> Has to be it
[05:14] <linas5> but this module thing isnt working
[05:14] <adam_> jinkguns: whats hapening
[05:14] <fangorious> Jinkguns: what card are you running? i have a fire gl v5000 in my laptop that works great with the 'latest ati driver' howto
[05:15] <intelikey> uscfan yes. ok.  some bios's have options....  some don't.      uscfan maybe remove the drive turn power on let it try to boot power off and insert the drive.   that might 'jog' the bios into noticing it.
[05:15] <fangorious> anyone have any ideas on Keyboard Shortcuts, turning on numlock just to get a '0' is really irritating, and it's only been 5 minutes that i've noticed the problem
[05:15] <Jinkguns> fangorious, I'm installing the fglrx packages, running fglrxconfig and then everything locks up. Ati 9250.
[05:15] <Jinkguns> I believe.
[05:15] <Linuturk> is there a place to download a repository to save to a usb pen? I need linux-wlan-ng
[05:16] <fangorious> Jinkguns: have you looked at the howto on ubuntuforums about how to build deb packages of the latest ati drivers?
[05:16] <intelikey> dl the whole repo ?????
[05:16] <Linuturk> just the package for linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-ng-doc
[05:17] <Linuturk> the precompiled stuff for ubuntu
[05:17] <Aven> how do you set a root pass ?
[05:17] <fangorious> BoukenPink: problem with a NAT or something?
[05:17] <varsendagger> Aven,  you don't use sudo
[05:17] <Linuturk> Aven, root pass is the pass you set for your account
[05:17] <varsendagger> Sudo!
[05:17] <Jinkguns> Hrm, no I haven't.
[05:17] <intelikey> BoukenPink me to.   i'm flustered.
[05:17] <me> I run 5.04 hoary and have downloaded 5.10 and copied to CD (readable).  Is it safe to boot from the CD and install 5.1 over 5.04?
[05:17] <varsendagger> Linuturk, not really
[05:17] <Aven> yes, but there's a PHP script that requires mysql
[05:17] <Aven> and only 'root' user can be used
[05:17] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell Aven about root
[05:17] <fangorious> Jinkguns: I recommend it, it's worked really well for me. I can even suspend/hibernate
[05:17] <Linuturk> not really in how varsendagger?
[05:17] <Aven> so I need the root password
[05:17] <BoukenPink> fangorious, bittorrent doesn't want to accept incoming connections. :3
[05:18] <johnblackhorse> Aven: i suspect there is a workaround for mysql and it's narrowminded ness
[05:18] <varsendagger> aven you will need to edit /etc/passwd
[05:18] <intelikey> aven sudo passwd
[05:18] <Agedec> YES...after a full days of staggering slow work i got WoW to work....correctly
[05:18] <Aven> ah, ty intelikey
[05:18] <intelikey> np
[05:18] <fangorious> Aven: check the wiki, I'm sure there's a howto for setting a root password
[05:18] <linas5> argh
[05:18] <linas5> this thing sucks
[05:19] <intelikey> fangorious it's 'sudo passwd'
[05:19] <varsendagger> Linuturk, the root password is not your password
[05:19] <fangorious> intelikey: well that's just too easy
[05:19] <intelikey> lol
[05:19] <varsendagger> or am i talking out of my ass?
[05:19] <BoukenPink> On windows, I just fixed it in port forwarding, and it's using the same ports on linux.
[05:19] <Linuturk> can someone download these two packages for me? linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-ng-doc ?
[05:19] <Jinkguns> I'm supposed to be building a 12 million dollar Apple Supercomputer Cluster for a State Nanotechnology Research Center and I can't even install ati drivers on ubuntu. :/
[05:19] <Agedec> Hey guys, what are some good native games I could try out?  Just got everything working with graphics and all, need to test em out :?
[05:19] <fangorious> BoukenPink: did you enable a firewall under linux?
[05:20] <fangorious> Linuturk: what good would it do you if one of us downloads them?
[05:20] <Linuturk> email them to me
[05:20] <Linuturk> or dcc
[05:20] <intelikey> Linuturk can't you dl them ?
[05:20] <intelikey> go to the repo and save as
[05:20] <fangorious> Linuturk: I'm confused, if you can receive them as email or dcc, why can't you download them?
[05:20] <nothingman> anyone here have Balazar running?
[05:20] <Linuturk> my ubuntu doesn't have net access, b/c i need those packages
[05:21] <Linuturk> in order to get those packages, i need net access
[05:21] <Linuturk> but I can download them to my windows
[05:21] <Linuturk> and then usb pen them over
[05:21] <linas5> ugh
[05:21] <intelikey> Linuturk go to the repo and dl them from windows
[05:21] <fangorious> Linuturk: so download them on the machine you're on, save them to USB, and go
[05:21] <linas5> SOMEONE FIX MY DAMNED NDISWRAPPER
[05:21] <Linuturk> ok
[05:21] <Linuturk> where do I download them?
[05:21] <intelikey> !repos
[05:21] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:21] <intelikey> the list is there ^
[05:22] <BoukenPink> fangorious, not that I'm aware of.
[05:22] <fangorious> Linuturk: start from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:22] <intelikey> do a /msg ubotu info package       and the bot will search for them for you.
[05:22] <intelikey> Linuturk ^
[05:22] <varsendagger> how do i jsut downlaod the packages with apt-get?
[05:23] <varsendagger> *just
[05:23] <fangorious> BoukenPink: try 'sudo iptables -L' to make sure
[05:23] <intelikey> varsendagger get the info on it and wget it.
[05:23] <durt> did you manage to get those restricted modules yet linas5?
[05:23] <varsendagger> what kind of info?
[05:23] <linas5> wtf durt?
[05:23] <linas5> =P
[05:23] <intelikey> file name and repo to get it from
[05:24] <varsendagger> ohh
[05:24] <BoukenPink> It says... like... policy ACCEPT for all of them (INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT)
[05:24] <fangorious> BoukenPink: sounds like there's no firewall :
[05:25] <intelikey> you can add * wildcard in wget     like  wget http://us.ubuntu.com/hoary_main/thisfile*
[05:25] <g00r0n> how to i get rid of wifi manager asking : "enter password for default keyring to unlock"
[05:25] <fangorious> BoukenPink: after launching your BT client, do a netstat -lnt to see if there's anything listening on the configured port
[05:25] <ejofee> how do i force "sudo -i" also accept connections to x11 server?
[05:25] <durt> linas5: in synaptic, search for restricted, and install (from the cd) "linux-restricted-modules-yourkernel" where yourkernel is the output of (in a terminal) uname -r
[05:25] <linas5> durt, that restricted modules thing....would it be on the cd? =P
[05:25] <linas5> errr
[05:25] <linas5> thanks
[05:26] <intelikey> ejofee if you are trying to run X as root the gdm.conf will deny the login unless you edit it.
[05:26] <fangorious> linas5: could you maybe browse us.archive.ubuntu.com to find the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel, download it, and save it to a USB drive or CDRW or something?
[05:27] <linas5> im sure i could....but that would be too much work =P
[05:27] <durt> i think its on the cd though
[05:27] <linas5> it is
[05:27] <ejofee> intelikey: i don't intend to run x11 as root, i only want to run apps using x11
[05:27] <fangorious> linas5: assuming you haven't done a kernel upgrade since installing
[05:28] <ejofee> intelikey: that is, using an x11 which doen't necessarily belong to root
[05:28] <linas5> argh
[05:28] <linas5> same error
[05:28] <intelikey> ejofee have you tried 'sudo openvt -sc 12 bash ' ?
[05:28] <JRlinux> Why is it that I have decried the automatic update feature in Windows-- but rather like it in ubuntu?  Can't figure that out.
[05:29] <linas5> WHY DO THESE THINGS HATE ME
[05:29] <fangorious> one final time before my battery goes, anyone know how to reset the Keyboard Shortcuts to default, a handful of keys stopped working after I tried to change some shortcuts, and still don't work even after deleting all the shortcuts I adjusted
[05:29] <erika> When I put a CD in my CDrom why does Juicer come up? It plays fine, but I would think CDPlayer would come up. I don't want to rip my CD... I want to listen to it!!! BTW... My  CD player is usless at this point. I have to listen to my CDs with juicer.
[05:29] <ejofee> intelikey: no. trying. (thanks.)
[05:29] <fangorious> linas5: because you yell
[05:29] <intelikey> that should give you a root console on tty12 that root owns
[05:29] <linas5> oh well
[05:29] <linas5> fangorious, so if i stop yelling it'll work?
[05:29] <intelikey> :)
[05:30] <fangorious> linas5: i would do a smiley, but my zero key doesn't work, so i have no close-paren
[05:30] <linas5> lol
[05:30] <SuPeRmAn> hey hey
[05:30] <fangorious> linas5: would have been funnier if you asked in all caps
[05:30] <intelikey> fangorious turn your head the other way....
[05:30] <BoukenPink> I think it just hates me.
[05:30] <fangorious> intelikey: i'm just joking around :
[05:30] <durt> might help: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:31] <intelikey> (:
[05:31] <force> I have a headless ubuntu server, I would like to set it up as a VNC server, what will be required in order to do this?
[05:31] <linas5> ssh?
[05:31] <bhearsum> i'm getting sweet glibc errors after upgrading to dapper. invalid pointers on various things, including xfce4-panel
[05:31] <fangorious> force: vncserver
[05:31] <oknewbie> hows it going tonight all
[05:31] <intelikey> tightVNC ???
[05:31] <SuPeRmAn> u mean today...
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> Lol
[05:32] <oknewbie> which ever
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> where u at???
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> im in australia..
[05:32] <fangorious> well, my battery is down to ten percent, time to go
[05:32] <oknewbie> Oklahoma US
[05:32] <BoukenPink> Damned blocked incoming connections and my inability to fix it...
[05:32] <SuPeRmAn> sweet..
[05:32] <fangorious> linas5: GOOD LUCK!!!
[05:32] <erika> It's just soooooooooooooo frustrating
[05:32] <intelikey> well i'm tired of messing with problem #2 i'll work on problem #3 for a while...
[05:32] <durt> are you one of those crazy muslims in cronulla, superman?
[05:33] <force> fangorious: will there be any specific setup of xorg or xfree86 in order to use the vncserver?
[05:33] <SuPeRmAn> NO!!!
[05:33] <SuPeRmAn> lol im in brisbane..
[05:33] <oknewbie> any one here know how to mount anouther partition inside of ubuntu gnome
[05:33] <SuPeRmAn> nowhere near cronulla..
[05:33] <fangorious> force: nope
[05:33] <force> cheers
[05:33] <fangorious> force: unless you want something fancier than twm with a single xterm
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> so...
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> say 'i' if u have 5.10
[05:34] <linas5> wow
[05:34] <Jinkguns> i
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> i
[05:34] <dooglus> SuPeRmAn: I think it's spelled "aye"
[05:34] <jamie> sup
[05:34] <force> ideally ;)
[05:34] <jamie> anyone
[05:34] <SuPeRmAn> hi there..
[05:34] <quail_linux> here is a cake for a computer geek's birthday  http://www.nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive12/images/gingerbreadpc.jpg
[05:34] <jamie> hey
[05:34] <wims> nay
[05:34] <erika> hey.... I googled into an Iraqi Linux chat last night. Scarey... but they seemd to know code.
[05:34] <jamie> i am running a new edubuntu machine
[05:35] <ejofee> intelikey: openvt doesn't seem to have anything to do with running an app which needs an(y) x11 server
[05:35] <SuPeRmAn> kool
[05:35] <jamie> yeh
[05:35] <jamie> i am happy
[05:35] <linas5> i had no idea
[05:35] <jamie> but for some reason
[05:35] <SuPeRmAn> hahaha   lol nice nerd cake....
[05:35] <jamie> nothing will run on it
[05:35] <intelikey> ejofee what error you gettin ?
[05:35] <jamie> has anyone heard of a show called Red vs Blue
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> yep..
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> i love it..
[05:36] <jamie> iit won't run on my machine
[05:36] <jamie> for no reason
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> oh really...
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> hm...
[05:36] <Jinkguns> its the codecs
[05:36] <jamie> do i have to download quicktime
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> coulde be the quicktime..
[05:36] <scanwinder> anyone know a good program to play midi files?
[05:36] <Jinkguns> needs win32 codecs.
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> yesw u do..
[05:36] <jamie> oh
[05:36] <SuPeRmAn> unless u download a windows emulator..
[05:36] <jamie> it will auto matically run on totem
[05:36] <jamie> but nowhere else
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> then use the ones in wmv format..
[05:37] <jamie> i can't
[05:37] <Jinkguns> mplayer will play it
[05:37] <jamie> i don't have mplayer
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> ahh there ys go..
[05:37] <robert__> I am having trouble with an ensoniq sound card.  All I get is an incessant drum beat.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> um... download it..
[05:37] <jamie> from....
[05:37] <SuPeRmAn> um hang on ill brb ill go and see where u can download it from
[05:37] <jamie> ok
[05:37] <jamie> thnks
[05:38] <linas5> uh oh
[05:38] <linas5> how do i edit a read only file?
[05:38] <luciano_> Is there a program to manage the modules I want to load at startup?
[05:38] <ULffuntu> does anyone here ubuntu ppc with an imac
[05:38] <jamie> hahaha all these ppl are having trubl with their machines
[05:38] <Agedec> Would somone be able to help me out with a Wine problem?
[05:38] <jamie> i have an e MACHINE
[05:38] <jamie> i might
[05:38] <linas5> i have a dell lappy
[05:38] <linas5> =x
[05:39] <jamie> Agedec:i might
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> I got a C64.
[05:39] <wims> c64 rocks
[05:39] <ejofee> intelikey: i am getting no error... it's just that i am sent to the vt12 (text terminal) where i can obviously run no x11 app
[05:39] <ULffuntu> c64 does rock
[05:39] <erika> I get incessent drum beats all the time. I think it's my insanity monitor messing with me.
[05:39] <wims> i got one too, and a c128
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> I got a Timex Sinclare with the 4K Memory expansion! :P
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> JAMIE...
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> found it..
[05:39] <jamie> yeah
[05:39] <Agedec> Well, I get wow running perfectly, but when i download the patch, and it has to restart the program, it crashes out, termenal closes, and im none the wiser
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[05:39] <durt> luciano: /etc/hotplug/blacklist and /etc/modules work
[05:39] <quail_linux> i got a xbox running linux
[05:39] <ULffuntu> does anyone here ubuntu ppc with an imac
[05:39] <SuPeRmAn> wtf..
[05:39] <jamie> lol awesome
[05:39] <jamie> how
[05:40] <SuPeRmAn> xbox + linux = crazy..
[05:40] <ejofee> scanwinder: still there?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  ihad an ImacDV with Ubuntu on it for a while.
[05:40] <robert__> So far ubuntu works great except for the soundcard.
[05:40] <Agedec> anyone know?
[05:40] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, did you do 'paste buttons to the membrane' trick?
[05:40] <rosen> doesnt most of the modchips for xbox run linus ?
[05:40] <scanwinder> ejofee: yes
[05:40] <rosen> linux .. aswell
[05:40] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: ok great, did you trouble with the screen resolution
[05:40] <ejofee> scanwinder: ok. do you know how to use soundfonts?
[05:40] <jamie> ROBERTL i had the same problem
[05:40] <robert__> what is the solution
[05:40] <erika> I have a ts9900 monitor running z80 code
[05:40] <scanwinder> ejofee: no...what are soundfonts?
[05:40] <ULffuntu> mine is stuck on 1024x768
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  cant get the screen centered corrct? and the console is like 3 chars to the left?
[05:41] <luciano_> How can I uninstall a Nvidia sound driver?
[05:41] <quail_linux> xbox linux wiki = http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[05:41] <linas5> so....how do i edit this read only file?
[05:41] <linas5> =P
[05:41] <jamie> SUPERMAN:what do i download
[05:41] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: the screen is centered, just no other options besides 1024x768
[05:41] <dooglus> linas5: "sudo gedit /path/to/file" ?
[05:41] <SuPeRmAn> the source code...
[05:41] <SuPeRmAn> ok GTG bye bye
[05:41] <wims> linux on xbox .... finally something useful to use my xbox to :)
[05:41] <Agedec> Would Cedega(WineX) be worth subscribing to, over Wine?
[05:41] <nothingman> anyone here have an ov511 camera working?
[05:41] <jamie> bye bye
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  Hmm.. never noticed.. I think my iMAC DV - was toped out at that res anyway.
[05:42] <ejofee> scanwinder: all you have to do is to "sudo apt-get install qsynth" and then download a soundfont and add it to qsynth. that's all. then you can use qsynth in any application you're using for playing / sequencing midis (kmidi, rosegarden, noteedit)
[05:42] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: I'm using a red iMac Dv (for the first time)
[05:42] <luciano_> I've installed Wine, and when I try to install a game, it shows me some errors, like unhandled exception, or something like that. Can anyone help me?
[05:42] <durt> agedec: no, its worth stealing though...
[05:42] <quail_linux> xbox = a 733MHz celly pc
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Mine was  Graphite one. :P
[05:43] <ejofee> scanwinder: i am trying to find a link to soundfonts.
[05:43] <ejofee> scanwinder: ok?
[05:43] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: But you never had trouble adjusting your screen res?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> luciano_,  may want to google for wine and that game. and see if theres some options to use.
[05:43] <Agedec> how so
[05:43] <Agedec> ?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ULffuntu,  i cant recall ever changeing the res. Mine was so off centered.. i gave up on Ubuntu on it.
[05:43] <jamie> SEVEAS: are you there
[05:44] <luciano_> Dr_Willis_, but it does it with almost every game
[05:44] <jamie> lol
[05:44] <ULffuntu> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I hear you. It's ok but I wish I could adjust
[05:44] <scanwinder> ejofee: im just tryin 2 get the file 2 play now....
[05:44] <jamie> so is this like a help server
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> luciano_,  Cedega may work better..  Ive had poor luck with wine/cedega and most games.
[05:44] <johnblackhorse> ubotu: tell ULffuntu about xcfg
[05:44] <ejofee> scanwinder: of course, if you do this, you will get a nice soft synthesizer. i prefer soft synthesizers because of hardware independence.
[05:44] <ejofee> scanwinder: in which player do you want to play it?
[05:44] <intelikey> Q; does the modprobe command make any changes in /etc ?
[05:45] <linas5> Omnitech Fortress Server / Dual Pentium 3 / Xeon 700 MHz / 1 GB/ (10 X 9.1 GB) / NIC / USB / adaptec RAID / CD-ROM / DDS tape drive
[05:45] <linas5> awww man i want that
[05:45] <linas5> just so i can say my server is a fortress =P
[05:45] <luciano_> Dr_Willis, nop, I tried Cedega with the same results. I guess it has something to see with any module or library, but I can't figure it out. Has someone the same problem?
[05:45] <scanwinder> ejofee: i dont mind what player...........im getting errors in all of them
[05:46] <ejofee> scanwinder: run kmidi now
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> luciano_,  what game? check the cedega forums is the place to start would be the best bet.
[05:46] <scanwinder> ejofee: is it in the repositories?
[05:46] <intelikey> oh ejofee i just caught up....  in the terminal 'sudo <desired X app> '  doesn't do what you are wanting to do ?
[05:46] <luciano_> Ok, but it does it with all games
[05:46] <jamie> who here is a DJ!
[05:46] <ULffuntu> johnblackhorse: Hi, I tried that last night but it didn't help. My modeline settings are missing in my xorg.conf though
[05:46] <Jinkguns> how does one install ati drivers in a custom kernel? :/
[05:47] <scanwinder> ejofee: dosent seem to be in the repositories....gimme a min, ill find a repository with it
[05:47] <jamie> i g2g guys bye
[05:47] <Jinkguns> cya jamie
[05:47] <dell500> so how exactly can i install winblows on a second partition on my primary drive?
[05:47] <dell500> or secondary drive that is
[05:47] <jamie> wait one test
[05:47] <jamie> me slaps someone
[05:47] <jamie> ok it didn't work
[05:47] <jamie> bye
[05:47] <intelikey>  /me
[05:47] <ejofee> intelikey: no, i want to open a root console (by sudo -i), but i can't run any x11 app from it. i guess now it's all clear
[05:47] <jamie> g-night form CA
[05:47] <aTypical> Hello, everyone.
[05:47] <ejofee> scanwinder: maybe kmid includes it?
[05:47] <jamie> lol it works
[05:48] <dooglus> ejofee: use "sudo -s" if you want to keep your environment
[05:48] <luciano_> Does anyone know a program to manage modules?
[05:48] <dooglus> ejofee: then you'll be able to run X apps
[05:49] <intelikey> luciano_ modprobe ?
[05:49] <intelikey> lsmod
[05:49] <luciano_> yes, but I like a dialog-type menu
[05:49] <ejofee> dooglus: yes... but i would prefer not to mix envs... :(
[05:49] <intelikey> rmmod
[05:50] <scanwinder> ejofee: i installed kmid and, it says its playing the file except i dont hear anything
[05:50] <ejofee> dooglus: i would prefer to somehow "emulate" a root env
[05:50] <dooglus> ejofee: you can "xhost -" to turn off authentification on the X server if you like, but that's not a good idea
[05:50] <ejofee> scanwinder: of course you hear nothing
[05:50] <dell500> anyone know hwo to install winblows after linux?
[05:50] <dell500> on a secondary drive
[05:50] <ejofee> scanwinder: now comes the fun part: get your cool soft synthesizer
[05:50] <dooglus> ejofee: the only 3 env. vars you need are DISPLAY, XAUTHORITY and SESSION_MANAGER
[05:50] <intelikey> ejofee just own your home before you exit
[05:50] <scanwinder> ejofee:..so what do i do?
[05:50] <ejofee> scanwinder: "sudo apt-get install qsynth"
[05:51] <scanwinder> ejofee: yeh, i installed that
[05:51] <linas5> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#1_-_Install_Ubuntu_Hoary
[05:51] <linas5> errm
[05:51] <linas5> oops
[05:51] <ejofee> scanwinder: ok, you have to activate the qsynth engine
[05:51] <ejofee> scanwinder: have you?
[05:52] <scanwinder> ejofee: yes...but i got an error "Qsynth: Failed to create the audio driver(jack).
[05:52] <intelikey> brain storm.   could you ln -s /home/<user>/.xauthority /root/.xauthority and do it that way.... ?
[05:53] <ejofee> scanwinder: use alsa
[05:53] <intelikey> ejofee symlinks ? ^
[05:53] <linas5> what do i put for hostname?
[05:53] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy
[05:53] <phiqtion> nalioth: busy?
[05:53] <ejofee> intelikey: thanks. i will try that
[05:54] <scanwinder> ejofee: how do i set it to use alsa?
[05:54] <aTypical> When I start supertux in fullscreen mode I have a 2 1/2 inch banner around the screen.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:54] <ejofee> scanwinder: (kmid should rather be closed in the meantime)
[05:54] <phiqtion> is there any guide that can show me how to use dvdrip?
[05:54] <yubimusubi> Anyone have any experience with avidemux on ubuntu?
[05:54] <aTypical> black banner that is.
[05:54] <ejofee> scanwinder: setup / audio
[05:54] <ejofee> scanwinder: setup / audio / audio driver
[05:54] <intelikey> ejofee it may not work and you may end up with root owning your users xauth files but you can always rm them and X will make new ones.
[05:55] <yubimusubi> And if no one knows avidemux, is there another way to burn video DVD's on Ubuntu? (I've been googling a lot)
[05:55] <intelikey> does kb3 do dvd ?
[05:56] <ULffuntu> happy holidays everyone
[05:56] <dooglus> intelikey: it does
[05:56] <ULffuntu> thanks for the help Dr_Willis
[05:56] <ejofee> intelikey: it's k3b. and yes, it does.
[05:56] <dooglus> intelikey: (assuming you mean k3b)
[05:56] <intelikey> yeah that was like 'teh'   :)
[05:56] <phiqtion> is there any guide that can show me how to use dvdrip?
[05:57] <linas5> for the interfaces configuration thing it says "wireless_nick REPLACE WITH YOUR HOSTNAME"...what do i put for hostname?
[05:57] <robotgeek> linas5: you probably don't need the nick part
[05:57] <yubimusubi> Erm, I read with K3B you can burn DVDs, but you have to have demuxed files... I have an xvid.avi file I'd like to burn
[05:57] <intelikey> well i got problem #3 fixed now back to #2....  eeer
[05:57] <linas5> just leave it out?
[05:57] <linas5> =P
[05:58] <robotgeek> linas5: yes, nicks don't really matter. wireless_essid is more important
[05:58] <scanwinder> ejofee: whats the device name for a sound card? it dosent seem to work with /dev/dsp0 and alsa...
[05:58] <linas5> thanks robotgeek
[05:58] <scanwinder> ejofee: it goes without error if i dont put in a device name
[05:59] <scanwinder> ejofee: but i still get no sound in kmid
[05:59] <linas5> ok...
[05:59] <linas5> how do i get this interfaces thing replaced/edited
[05:59] <dell500> anyone here know how to install windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:59] <linas5> with your windows cd?
[05:59] <yubimusubi> dell500: You need to make an NTFS partition
[06:00] <wims> how do i make things start at boot+?
[06:00] <wims> automatically that is
[06:00] <dell500> ok, well what if that was done, but the windows installer wouldn't accept? :(
[06:00] <robotgeek> linas5: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:00] <linas5> thank you sir
[06:00] <robotgeek> linas5: don't sir me :)
[06:00] <intelikey> is there a multiverse for 5.4 ?
[06:00] <linas5> lol
[06:01] <yubimusubi> intelikey: why don't you upgrade to 5.10?
[06:01] <khermans> What is a recommended identd package?
[06:01] <luciano_> does nForce2 audio device support ALSA drivers?
[06:01] <intelikey> not an option yubimusubi and even if it was what make you think i'd like 5.10 any better ?
[06:02] <yubimusubi> luciano_: I think you need to get the install from nvidia.com
[06:02] <intelikey> is there a multiverse for 5.4 ?
[06:02] <robotgeek> intelikey: i can't begin to tell you how awesome it is :)
[06:02] <ejofee> scanwinder: /dev/sequencer
[06:02] <robotgeek> intelikey: yes, there shud be
[06:02] <intelikey> you sure cant.
[06:02] <yubimusubi> intelikey: Everything's actually up to date in 5.10
[06:02] <ejofee> scanwinder: usually you should need to mention it, though
[06:02] <intelikey> yubimusubi so ?
[06:02] <yubimusubi> Anyone know how to burn a video DVD with Ubuntu? Or am I screwed?
[06:02] <ejofee> scanwinder: now, have you added the soundfont?
[06:03] <khermans> I need to run IDENTD to get into irc.easynews.com ... any ideas?
[06:03] <luciano_> Yes, but it install OSS support only
[06:03] <yubimusubi> intelikey: This is my first foray into the Ubuntu world...I popped 5.4 into my drive, got online and everyone told me to upgrade to Breezy.
[06:03] <jon_> hi all, I HAD my Mx Duo700 mouse buttons working, did a re-install, now I can't remember how I did it, any links would be appritiated
[06:03] <scanwinder> ejofee: what are soundfonts and where do i find one to add?
[06:04] <intelikey> yeah i know.  but i'm talking to you on a 3 year old linux right now and happy with it.     and believe it or not. every thing on it works flawlessly.
[06:04] <ejofee> scanwinder: soundfonts are just as character fonts in word processors, only that they refer to instruments rather than letters
[06:05] <ejofee> scanwinder: it's like a set of instruments
[06:05] <jon_> intelikey, if it aint broke, dont fix it eh
[06:05] <intelikey> presactly
[06:05] <BoukenPink> I wonder if I should talk to my ISP about my bittorrent problem. >.>
[06:05] <Agedec> #winehq
[06:05] <intelikey> !
[06:05] <ubotu> intelikey: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:05] <Agedec> woops
[06:06] <Agedec> lol
[06:06] <scanwinder> ejofee: ive got to go....thanks for ur help
[06:06] <ejofee> scanwinder: maybe you want the link to a soundfont
[06:06] <scanwinder> ejofee: yes, that would help
[06:06] <yubimusubi> No one knows how to burn video DVDs?
[06:06] <ejofee> scanwinder: ftp://ftp.personalcopy.net/pub/Unison.sf2.gz
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: maybe we'll go on later
[06:07] <linas5> ugh wtf
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: i myself am interested in midis
[06:07] <linas5> how do i get this wifi thing to connect
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: adding it to qsynth is trivial
[06:07] <dell500> i thought there was a wiki page or something about windows xp after the installation of linux
[06:07] <scanwinder> ejofee: ok...bye
[06:07] <ejofee> scanwinder: then you just select qsynth as your synthesizer (in kmid's menu)
[06:07] <yubimusubi> dell500: I think there is.
[06:07] <linas5> do win first?
[06:07] <dell500> some process through the live cd and reconfiguring grub and the boot record
[06:08] <dell500> i just don't understand why windows has to be a bitch like this
[06:08] <dell500> it's liek "no, i won't boot or install if I'm number 1 biotch"
[06:08] <intelikey> i can see your point also yubimusubi, if i had a dvd drive i'd be inclined to look for something that could put it to use.      there is still a 5.25 floppy drive in this box.
[06:08] <yubimusubi> dell500: Generally, Windoze wants to be installed on /dev/[hs] da1
[06:08] <dell500> yup
[06:08] <dell500> but i say no!
[06:08] <yubimusubi> intelikey: Heh, thanks
[06:08] <dell500> you get hdb1!
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> ive had Xp be so stupid it installs itself on drive H: because i had a 15 in 1 usb reader.. so it labled all those slots C: D; E; and so forth..
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:09] <g00r0n> anyone know what to install for gnome to have an OSX-like launch bar?
[06:09] <yubimusubi> intelikey: Well, I have an anime here that a friend wants (but she has no internet) so....
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> not having a C: can really confuse some programs. I fond out.
[06:09] <yubimusubi> dell500: I agree...it's crap, heheh
[06:09] <dell500> so what shall i do?
[06:10] <dell500> maybe unplug ubuntu, plug in the 30gb and install windows, then replug everything in?
[06:10] <yubimusubi> dell500: I'll do a google real quick...
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  with the right grub options - yu can 'swap' the drives and other things.  but it depends on your exact problem.
[06:10] <dell500> i hope you find something i didn't
[06:10] <intelikey> yubimusubi i asked that question a while ago for your benifit, does k3b do dvd? and the answer i got was YES
[06:10] <yubimusubi> dell500: but a backup and reinstall sounds like the way I'd do it, heheh
[06:10] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  winxp won't install cause ubuntu is there :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> My machines bios has a quick boot menu./ where i can pick what HD to boot  :) thats handy.
[06:10] <varsendagger> g00r0n, have you looked into gdesklets?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  think of it as a sign.... :P
[06:11] <dell500> yubimusubi:  i just got breezy the way i like it though :)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  using 2 hard drives?
[06:11] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  lol, yes
[06:11] <robotgeek> g00r0n: starterbar / ksmoothdock
[06:11] <varsendagger> dell500, why would you want XP?
[06:11] <dell500> games!
[06:11] <dell500> lanning
[06:11] <linas5> hmmm
[06:11] <dell500> i have to tweak ubuntu a bit more for it to be stable and run games, and a faster internet connection....
[06:11] <intelikey> swap the drives.  but don't forget to change your fstab
[06:12] <linas5> ill try again tommorrow
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  you really should put XP on the drive that will be hda.  for the best.
[06:12] <yubimusubi> dell500: You can try something like this (windoze through qemu) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513
[06:12] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  emulator for windoze?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> but ive never seen xp refuse to install oh hda, if linux is on hdb.
[06:13] <dell500> well all i want to do is install xp....
[06:13] <dell500> so should i just take linux out, then replug it back in on hdb?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> onto the 2nd hard rive?
[06:13] <intelikey> hehhe or pull your curent hda and install xp then put it back in.
[06:13] <dell500> that's such crap, i hate m$
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> if you just unplug the power to the linux drive.. the othe rdrive may  work then..
[06:13] <dell500> intelikey:  ya most likely scenario lol
[06:13] <yubimusubi> dell500: wait, they're on 2 different physical hard drives?
[06:14] <yubimusubi> dell500: that would be the easiest way to do it.
[06:14] <dell500> i thought it had to do with the placement on the cable?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> just rember to unplug the power to the pc.. BEFOR ya go messing about with cables and so forth.
[06:14] <dell500> ya, linux is on a 120, and i am wanting to put windoze on a 30
[06:14] <intelikey> no jumpers or software
[06:14] <yubimusubi> dell500: placement shouldn't matter...as long as the BIOS only sees one HD it should be fine.
[06:14] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  duh! :)
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> dell500,  then you forget.. and go... DOH!!!
[06:14] <dell500> Dr_Willis:  yup :)
[06:15] <dell500> lol
[06:15] <dell500> i've got like 4 physical drives
[06:15] <dell500> it's grand
[06:15] <yubimusubi> dell500: I bet.
[06:15] <dell500> 240gb of backup, 120 for linux, 30 for crap
[06:15] <dell500> it's overkill
[06:15] <dell500> PBR out of a 40oz is the best!
[06:16] <yubimusubi> I have 4 computers...but...2 of them don't work (I'm going to make them one computer)
[06:16] <dell500> so, what's the game plan? mess with the bios?
[06:16] <yubimusubi> Oh and one's my dads, heheh
[06:16] <dell500> or just unplug the power
[06:16] <dell500> lol
[06:16] <yubimusubi> dell500: I like unplug the power, but I'm dirty like that.
[06:16] <intelikey> if it is jumpered to master you will have to remove the jumper (or move it) so it's master.  but if it is cable-select (software addressing) just pulling the master will switch the slave to master.
[06:16] <snadge> anyone know why a particular pdf file im trying to view, parts of it come up in symbol font instead of a readable one.. i've even tried the official acrobat reader, and another pc that runs debian. any ideas?
[06:17] <yubimusubi> snadge: It's the fonts..I had a problem with some pdfs too.
[06:17] <dell500> don't even worry about the cords?
[06:17] <intelikey> snadge yep file is hosed
[06:17] <snadge> yeah i think its choosing the wrong font
[06:18] <snadge> since the rest of the file that isnt that font is perfectly readable
[06:18] <dell500> is there a ext2 or ext3 read/write app out on windows?
[06:18] <dell500> free that is
[06:18] <yubimusubi> snadge: No, the font in the file does not exist on your computer, so it tries to grab a font...
[06:18] <_jason> dell500, explore2fs
[06:18] <snadge> yubimusubi, yeah thats fine.. how do i tell it not to choose that font? ;)
[06:18] <dell500> yes! i love that prog
[06:18] <dell500> does it have write capability now?
[06:18] <yubimusubi> dell500: Why not just part a small FAT32 out of it?
[06:19] <yubimusubi> snadge: I have no clue :P
[06:19] <_jason> dell500, I don't know, never used it
[06:19] <dell500> cause all my music is on ext2
[06:20] <yubimusubi> dell500: You've got all that extra space and you don't just put shared music on a FAT partition? (That's what I use my external HD for)
[06:20] <_jason> dell500, "Although there is still some code for write support, it has been abandoned and most likely does not work." so umm i guess not
[06:20] <intelikey> dell500 swaping the plug on the cable doesn't swap the drives hd'a/b'  no.  but on boxes with 2 ide channels swapping the cables plug on the motherboard will change hda>hdc & hdd>hdb
[06:21] <dell500> ya, that's what i thought
[06:21] <dell500> ok, i'm gonna go install it and see what happens
[06:21] <dell500> hopefully i don't lose this :(
[06:22] <yubimusubi> snadge: If OOo or a similar program supports opening pdfs, you might wanna just try and change the fonts there
[06:22] <dell500> or can't get back in, i hate that when i can't get into ubuntu
[06:22] <dell500> anyway, peace
[06:22] <yubimusubi> dell500: good luck ;)
[06:22] <dell500> thanks
[06:22] <snadge> yubimusubi, i just tried that.. it seems OOo can only export to pdf, not open them ;)
[06:22] <snadge> i could also try removing the symbol font
[06:23] <intelikey> i need to switch to the other box on the net.  brb
[06:23] <snadge> ahh i think webdings is the culprit
[06:24] <yubimusubi> snadge: Yea, hopefully that'll work...I simply gave up on mine (it was just for DND/Gaming).
[06:29] <jblack> Hi. I've just noticed that I don't have /dev/hdc
[06:29] <zparta> good for you
[06:30] <jblack> I hadn't considered whether that's a good thing for me.
[06:31] <jblack> I'm wondering whether or not there's a problem with dapper.
[06:31] <jblack> I've seen a variety of symptomatic problems with hotplug and udev on dapper.
[06:31] <durt> missing any other devices involved in receiving objects inserted into them?
[06:31] <tritium> jblack: dapper is in development, so you can expect things like that to happen
[06:31] <jblack> durt: Not sure.. Though I can check. Would a usb device be a sufficient test?
[06:32] <jblack> I could probably hunt down a pcmcia adaptor for a cf card and see if that gets seen
[06:33] <jblack> Ok. a pmcia cf flash adaptor with a 512 meg card shows up fine as hde
[06:33] <jblack> lets see what it does with an external dvd writer
[06:34] <jblack> The external dvd writer is showing up fine as well.
[06:34] <jblack> tritium: Yes, of course. :)
[06:35] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to change the "foot" icon in nautilus (to the right of the toolbar)?
[06:35] <intelikey> back
[06:35] <jblack> Most of the team has things like X40s. I, on the other hand, have a vaio.
[06:36] <jblack> I think the acpi setup has broken rather badly throughout dapper.
[06:36] <jblack> I lost /proc/acpi/sony quite some while ago.
[06:36] <basheer> I need some help with ndiswrapper
[06:36] <sorush20> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising
[06:38] <intelikey> i typed apt-get install irssi  and it said is it ok to install 24m of files.   i said no.  and installed bx for that price of 2m  hehhe i like bx better anyway...
[06:38] <jblack> intelikey: What ever works best for you. :)
[06:38] <johnblackhorse> intelikey: ?? irssi is default in ubuntu
[06:39] <jblack> johblackhorse: If he did a server install, irssi likely wasn't installed.
[06:39] <ejofee> i use a symlink for my homedir. any idea why the console prompt expands to the full physical path (instead of showing "~" or at least "/home/ejofee") and how i can change this? (please don't advise me to use mount!)
[06:39] <intelikey> and ?
[06:39] <johnblackhorse> jblack: hmmm, one would think that since irssi is a console app, it would be in the server install
[06:39] <intelikey> jblack exactly.
[06:39] <jblack> johnblackhorse: I agree.
[06:40] <jblack> But I think its not, all the same.
[06:40] <jblack> ejofee: Let me check
[06:40] <dooglus> is there a program for ubuntu which can display PDF version 1.6 documents?
[06:40] <intelikey> it's not
[06:40] <ejofee> dooglus: xpdf can't do it?!
[06:41] <dooglus> ejofee: I didn't try, but I will.  evince can't do it.
[06:41] <swim> hey folks, I've installed kde on ubuntu (not kubuntu) but it seems to have installed 3.4 ... any ideas why? (supposed to be 3.5)
[06:41] <jblack> ejofee: A quick test here doesn't reproduce that behaviour.
[06:41] <ejofee> dooglus: also, you may want to try kpdf (free) or acrobat (non-free)
[06:41] <intelikey> jblack you may be the guy i need to talk to.  any idea why gpm only works after a dpkg-reconfigure gpm     it doesnt stay fixed on reboot  ????
[06:42] <jblack> intelikey: Hmmm. Maybe gpm is getting loaded after udev and hotplug?
[06:42] <Nothingman> I get "device not accepting address X, error -110" when I try to plug in my webcam
[06:42] <Nothingman> it's an Intel play me2cam
[06:42] <intelikey> shouldn't it be ?
[06:42] <jblack> Nothingman: That sounds like a kernel driver issue to me.
[06:43] <ejofee> jblack: so... my /home folder is actually a symlink to a *sub*folder on *another* partition. maybe this is different from what you've just tested.
[06:43] <jblack> intelikey: I mean, maybe its getting loaded before.
[06:43] <jblack> ejofee: I tried a symlink to another dir on the same filesystem.
[06:43] <intelikey> i mean if it was loaded befor udev wouldn't that
[06:43] <jblack> I can try symlinking to a dir on another filesystem.
[06:43] <ejofee> jblack: please
[06:43] <intelikey> oh
[06:43] <intelikey> ok
[06:43] <jblack> intelikey: Well, it depends upon the device you're referring to.
[06:43] <jblack> ejofee: Sure
[06:44] <Nothingman> jblack: any recommendations?
[06:44] <jblack> intelikey: Well, check /etc/rc[1-3] .d
[06:44] <intelikey> ps2 whele mouse
[06:44] <jblack> Nothingman: My recommendation is to google quite heavily for that error, and see what other people have said about it.
[06:44] <intelikey> eel
[06:44] <intelikey> the link is there
[06:44] <jblack> intelikey: Also, look at /etc/gpm.conf and see what device is being referenced by gpm
[06:45] <intelikey> but it wont even work with a command /etc/init.d/gpm restart   until i reconfigure it
[06:45] <techrush> im thinking of trying to dual boot my powermac g4 with osx/ubuntu....anyone in here do that ?
[06:45] <yubimusubi> gpm? isn't that for mouse?
[06:45] <intelikey> it is the correct device
[06:45] <jblack> ejofee: I'm still unable to reproduce it buddy. :(
[06:45] <ejofee> jblack: this is what my prompt shows: "/media/hda4/home/ejofee$" (which should be "~", my home folder)
[06:46] <jblack> I did a rm -rf jbtest; ln -s /var/www /home/jbtest and log in on tty0 as jbtest.
[06:46] <jblack> It considered /var/www as ~.
[06:46] <ejofee> jblack: thank you! it then seems it's from the bash profile or rc. i will change them to ubuntu (my home folder was created by my former distro)
[06:47] <intelikey> i even made a dir /bob  and put the psaux in there and pointed gpm to that.   same thing  only works after a reconf even though i don't change anything in the reconfigure  leave all the same jblack
[06:47] <jblack> ejofee: Ahh.
[06:47] <jblack> btw, I can reproduce your behaviour if I run "export HOME=/tmp"
[06:47] <jblack> Are you doing the equivilant?
[06:48] <jblack> (btw, if you did that, then if you just typed "cd", that would bring you to home, and show ~ as your cwd)
[06:48] <lamb> how can i make my terminal window borderless?
[06:49] <jblack> intelikey: Thinking
[06:49] <jblack> intelikey: can you show me your /etc/gpm.conf at pastebin.com please?
[06:49] <jblack> I'm most interested in the device line
[06:49] <intelikey> jblack #flood be ok ?
[06:50] <jblack> I guess we could do that, though I'd prefer pastebin
[06:50] <jblack> Ok. I'm in #flood
[06:50] <kayde> hey:) ive got a problem with my ubuntu 5.04 on my toshiba laptop with a trident microsytems cyber 9525 vidio card,
[06:51] <kayde> i have fuzzy lines at bottom of my screen
[06:51] <PoW> What's a good ftp client?
[06:51] <jblack> Lets take bob back out of the equation. :)
[06:51] <thrice`> gftp?
[06:51] <jblack> pow: I use firefox myself.
[06:52] <thrice`> "good" is in the eye of the beholder
[06:52] <intelikey> hehhe it's working ?
[06:52] <thrice`> konqueror? :)
 hehhe it's working ?<intelikey> hehhe it's working ?
[06:52] <kayde> any helpo?
[06:52] <ejofee> jblack: it's not from there either. could it be from kde? i am not getting the same error in the text terminal
[06:52] <thrice`> kayde, no experience with that chip...sorry :(  have you tried ubuntu 5.10?  maybe it was fixed
[06:52] <kayde> hey:) ive got a problem with my ubuntu 5.04 on my toshiba laptop with a trident microsytems cyber 9525 vidio card,        i have fuzzy lines at bottom of my screen
[06:52] <BoukenPink> I think I just broke my internet... but it somehow fixed my bittorrent problem.
[06:52] <yubimusubi> kayde: It's probably a problem with the xorg.conf settings
[06:52] <intelikey> but if you want me to go back to /dev/ <something>  tell me what to try jblack
[06:53] <jblack> ejofee: What do you get for a prompt when you type "cd" ?
[06:53] <kayde> thrice`, nope i have orderd it though
[06:53] <thrice`> kayde, do you have a quick internet connection?
[06:53] <kayde> yubimusubi, how do i fix?
[06:53] <yubimusubi> kayde: try ctrl-alt-numpad+ and see if that changes it.
[06:53] <kayde> thrice`, yes, but with limited downloads
[06:53] <kayde> ok...
[06:53] <ejofee> jblack: i get "ejofee@localhost:~$"
[06:54] <xerophyte> is there any seperate download for Ubuntu server, or it has server install on the same cd where can i find out ubuntu server info i mean which package are included and stuff
[06:54] <jblack> ejofee: Hmmmmm. Interesting.
[06:54] <yubimusubi> kayde: If that helps, (you should get a larger or smaller portion of the screen) then your resolution is wrong.
[06:54] <kayde> yubimusubi, i dont have no. pad, its a laftop
[06:54] <jblack> ejofee: start up a new prompt. Does it list /home/...  ?
[06:54] <yubimusubi> kayde: There's no (for instance) "Fn" key?
[06:54] <kayde> yubimusubi, yes...
[06:55] <ejofee> jblack: yes, it expands it
[06:55] <ice9> trying to make a chroot
[06:55] <ice9> and I get to this step
[06:55] <jblack> I seem to have gotten confused.
[06:55] <yubimusubi> kayde: generally you hold "Fn" and press the button with the "+" sign inside of the square for laptops that I've used.
[06:55] <jblack> You're the one that has the ~ path problem? I thought you had the gpm problem?
[06:55] <intelikey> jblack what do you want me to point it too ?  /dev/psaux  /dev/input/mice  /dev/null  ?
[06:55] <ice9> sudo debootstrap --arch i386 hoary /chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[06:56] <kayde> yubimusubi, dont do nothing
[06:56] <intelikey> that's me jblack
[06:56] <ice9> but now it does nothing
[06:56] <xerophyte> could somebody give me info  on Ubuntu server version
[06:56] <ejofee> jblack: no, i have no problem with gpm
[06:56] <jblack> intelikey: Ahh. Ok.
[06:56] <ice9> I have to break the connection cause it just sits there
[06:56] <jblack> ejofee: Ok. do the following:
[06:56] <ice9> is there a way I can fix this ?
[06:56] <jblack> jblack@pluto:~$ echo $PWD; cd; echo $PWD
[06:56] <kayde> yubimusubi, want me to paste my xorg.conf somewhear?
[06:56] <jblack> for you, ~ will be the /home/ejofee whatever.
[06:57] <yubimusubi> kayde: Does it change your resolution at all? (Generally laptops require a specific resolution, some weird number like 1152x854)
[06:57] <kayde> yubimusubi,  ive been trying to fix for nearly a month
[06:57] <jblack> intelikey: Lets do /dev/psaux for the moment.
[06:57] <intelikey> k reconfiguring now.
[06:57] <yubimusubi> kayde: Yea, paste the xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and send me the link.
[06:57] <ejofee> jblack: yes, that's what it is
[06:57] <kayde> yubimusubi,  nope, when i do cange resolutrion any way, to a smaller rortion- its not fuzzy but screen is half the size
[06:58] <jblack> ejo: You should have gotten two lines of output from that line I asked you to type in. What are they?
[06:58] <kayde> yubimusubi, please post the root code for accesing the xorg, i forgot
[06:58] <yubimusubi> kayde: I also had a problem with my Gentoo laptop...I suggest googling for your specific laptop...That's how I found the proper resolution for mine.
[06:58] <_jason> can someone recommend a commandline id3 editor?
[06:58] <yubimusubi> kayde: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' without the quotes
[06:58] <lamb> how can i make my terminal window borderless? or should i download another program?
[06:59] <intelikey> jblack the only to test this is a reboot.  shall i test it now ?                        although i have tried it umpteen times already...
[06:59] <jblack> intelikey: No need yet.
[06:59] <jblack> intelikey: cd into /etc/rc2.d
[06:59] <Necrosan> Any way I can speed up my laptop's boot time? It has a 366mhz processor & 128mb of ram.. Is there anything at all I can really do beyond purchasing more ram?
[06:59] <intelikey> jblack gpm is working with device /dev/psaux right now.
[06:59] <yubimusubi> kayde: Also, do you know the specific make and model of your laptop (usually on a sticker on the bottom) or the physical size of the screen?
[07:00] <intelikey> ok
[07:00] <jblack> There, you'll see a bunch of files like K19cupsys
[07:00] <intelikey> yeah
[07:00] <jblack> For all five of those rcX.d dirs, I'd like to know whether gpm is S or K.
[07:00] <intelikey> S20gpm
[07:01] <kayde> yubimusubi, err yes i can find out,
[07:01] <jblack> intelikey: I'd like to know in a certain way.
[07:01] <jblack> Give it to me in the format of S: 1,2,3  K: 4,5
[07:01] <jblack> as is appropriate.
[07:01] <intelikey> jblack only 1 & 6 is kill
[07:01] <jblack> Ok.
[07:01] <kayde> yubimusubi, 2230CD
[07:01] <lamb> how can i make my terminal window borderless? or should i download another program?
[07:01] <jblack> type "runlevel". what level are you at?
[07:01] <CaptainMorgan> what's the recursive syntax for chmod +wr  ?
[07:02] <intelikey> 2
[07:02] <kayde> yubimusubi, 2230CD  toshiba satelite
[07:02] <jblack> do you have a /etc/rc2.d/S01gdm ?
[07:02] <yubimusubi> kayde: okay, can you paste your xorg.conf at that URL?
[07:02] <jblack> pardon, S??gpm
[07:02] <intelikey> that's the very one i pasted
[07:02] <kayde> yubimusubi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[07:02] <kayde> yubimusubi,  its got screenshot aswell
[07:02] <intelikey> not 01   20
[07:02] <jblack> intelikey: Ok. Try this:
[07:03] <oneseventeen> I can browse through my windows network just fine, but how can I write to it?  it says permission denied, but I'm the owner of the windows machine, can I tell it my username/password for the windows machine?
[07:03] <jblack> cd /etc/rc2.d; mv S20gpm S99gpm
[07:03] <yubimusubi> kayde: Okay, it sounds to me like a resolution problem.
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> what's the recursive syntax for chmod +wr  ?
[07:03] <jblack> then, try rebooting. Tell me if that fixes it
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> lol jblack - snl
[07:03] <intelikey> make it last. ok
[07:03] <jblack> captainmorgan: chmod --recursive (something)+wr
[07:04] <yubimusubi> kayde: It also *looks* like the same problem I had on my Gateway.
[07:04] <intelikey> ok
[07:04] <jblack> captainmorgain: do you change ownership for group, owner or other?
[07:04] <kayde> yubimusubi,  can u plz post the xorg.conf that i "should" have?
[07:04] <CaptainMorgan> jblack all
[07:04] <jblack> pardon, permissions for.
[07:04] <intelikey> jblack and ?
[07:04] <jblack> captainmorgan: You want everyone to read and write files, recursively?
[07:04] <jblack> intelikey: After you reboot? Tell me if it works
[07:04] <CaptainMorgan> only 1 user on this comp - me :)
[07:04] <intelikey> ok be back in 2
[07:04] <varsendagger> oneseventeen, you can try to mount it to your system somehwere and then write to the place you mounted it
[07:05] <jblack> captainmorgan: What directory do yo uwant to do this in?
[07:05] <varsendagger> --- i couldn't figure out how to do it with those samba gui's
[07:05] <yubimusubi> Zscach:  Wrong sync/refresh rate, I'm sure....Let me find out what you need and you'll have to hand-edit xorg.conf.
[07:05] <jblack> ejofee: Where are we?
[07:05] <CaptainMorgan> /home/Captain/folder/
[07:05] <oneseventeen> varsendagger, if I use the "connect to server" wizard, isn't that what it does?   Mount the drive on my desktop?  (still can't write to it in that case)
[07:06] <jblack> captainmorgan: Its probably not a great idea, but "chmod a+rw --recursive /home/Captain/folder"
[07:06] <Zscach> yubimusubi, ...? cant u just pplay with that opne and paste so i can paste over?
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> --recursive is the command ?
[07:07] <CaptainMorgan> i usually leave out a
[07:07] <jblack> recursive is the argument to the chmod command that says "do this recursively"
[07:07] <jblack> a means "all
[07:07] <varsendagger> try to do it with sudo in a terminal    ie sudo cp blah /home/oneseventeen/Desktop/sambafolder/
[07:07] <_jason> CaptainMorgan, you can use chmod -R too for recursive
[07:07] <cdubya> how do I add themes to fluxbox?
[07:08] <CaptainMorgan> _jason thanks - was using -r was receiving errors..
[07:08] <intelikey> jblack no sir
[07:08] <jblack> intelikey: Did we get lucky?
[07:08] <jblack> laskdjf
[07:08] <jblack> intelikey: Hold up
[07:08] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Lol, it's not quite that easy when it comes to laptops (and LCD screens in general)
[07:08] <intelikey> jblack no sir
[07:08] <jblack> intelikey: as root, try "/etc/init.d/gpm restart"
[07:09] <jblack> Does it magically work then?
[07:09] <techrush> no one runs ubuntu on a mac in here ?
[07:09] <Zscach> yubimusubi, k then, what do i do?
[07:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there a specific package i need to install to get the svideo output to work on my laptop?
[07:09] <eobanb> FunnyLookinHat, what graphics card is it?
[07:09] <jblack> techrush: I don't, but I know people do.
[07:09] <varsendagger> cdubya, copy them to  /usr/share/fluxbox/styles/ or
[07:09] <intelikey> ok what now ?
[07:09] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Looks like you've got a widescreen?  I think 1280x768 is your resolution.
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> QUESTION:  i'm trying to install fwcutter: it says 'make - command not found' Do i need to install something to make 'make' work?
[07:09] <FunnyLookinHat> eobanb, intel 915 i believe
[07:09] <yubimusubi> Zscach: But let me double check.
[07:09] <jblack> intelikey: did it start wokring?
[07:09] <oneseventeen> varsendagger, meh, seems too much trouble for what it's worth, just showing my dad Ubuntu.  (windows fileshares work fine at home, just not here) oh well, thanks for the tips though!
[07:09] <xerophyte> where can i server version of Ubuntu
[07:09] <techrush> i know people do also im just curious if its as easy to setup a dual boot as it is with ubuntu/win32
[07:10] <intelikey> jblack it says fail on the shutdown  ok on the start but nothing.
[07:10] <ejofee> jblack: i partially isolated the problem! "~" expansion happens only when i login by kdm. it never happens when i "startx" from a text terminal.
[07:10] <eobanb> xerophyte, you can use the regular CD, just type server at the startup prompt
[07:10] <intelikey> just like it has all along....
[07:10] <jblack> ejofee: Very odd.
[07:10] <ejofee> jblack: is it of any use?
[07:10] <eobanb> techrush, it is fairly simple.
[07:10] <jblack> ejofee: Potentially. Thinking
[07:10] <trappist> anybody know what media:/hdc is supposed to mean in konqueror?  it tries to open that when I insert a dvd, but it can't find it.
[07:10] <varsendagger> cdubya, did you get that?
[07:10] <jblack> intelikey: it won't say anything. But does it work?
[07:11] <xerophyte> eobanb, oh okay thix .. just wondering if you can rename the Ubuntu server into any other name . does Ubuntu has the same license like debian just wondering
[07:11] <eobanb> xerophyte, licence? you mean the GPL?
[07:11] <eobanb> the licence is the same.
[07:11] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:11] <ejofee> jblack: where do i find the differences between a startx session and a kdm session? that is, practically, which files are involved in creating this difference?
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> ANyone know anything about 'make'? DO i have to install it?
[07:11] <eobanb> feel free to fork ubuntu into your own distribution xerophyte :)
[07:11] <intelikey> it does say something it says * stopping mouse server   fail  * starting mouse server   ok   but   no it does not work.  sorry i thought i made it clear.
[07:12] <jblack> ejofee: I'm not sure offhand.
[07:12] <cdubya> varsendagger, yeah, I'm having some other issues, too. now sound doesn't want to seem to work under fluxbox.
[07:12] <jblack> ejofee: Actually, I do.
[07:12] <jblack> dpkg -L kdm
[07:12] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:12] <jblack> ejofee: that may not show you the config files though.
[07:12] <Necrosan> Any way I can speed up my laptop's boot time? It has a 366mhz processor & 128mb of ram.. Is there anything at all I can really do beyond purchasing more ram?
[07:13] <jblack> intelikey: You may have. I'm doing several things at once. :)
[07:13] <varsendagger> nicholaspaul, there is a backage called build-essential that ou will be needing
[07:13] <Necrosan> And speeding up ubuntu in general, too.
[07:13] <intelikey> jblack i really hoped you had found it by moving it to the end of the startup scripts....
[07:13] <Necrosan> I wanna keep Gnome though
[07:13] <phiqtion> Necrosan: try changing the window manager
[07:13] <jblack> intelikey: So had I.
[07:13] <Necrosan> heh
[07:13] <Necrosan> that's the one thing I don't wanna do =P
[07:13] <nicholaspaul> thx varsendagger :-) i'll try it out.
[07:13] <ejofee> jblack: it doesn't really help me :(
[07:13] <varsendagger> cdubya, what are you doing, specifically
[07:13] <Madpilot> Necrosan: buy more RAM...
[07:13] <jblack> intelikey: to relist what you know... gpm works each time you configure it, but never otherwise.
[07:13] <Necrosan> Madpilot: Funny =P
[07:13] <eobanb> Necrosan, then you're basically out of luck....366 MHz is rather slow
[07:13] <techrush> you can keep "gnome" but get rid of meta city
[07:13] <techrush> and you may see some performance inscrease
[07:14] <intelikey> jblack i've been fighting with this for too long     and yes exactly ^
[07:14] <aeon17x> !gparted
[07:14] <ubotu> aeon17x: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:14] <Necrosan> techrush: What's metacity do anyway?
[07:14] <phiqtion> Necrosan: gnome needs cpu power not more ram. 128 is ok. i recommend amd for linux in general
[07:14] <eobanb> Necrosan, if you like the general feel of gnome but need more speed you might try XFce
[07:14] <xerophyte> eobanb, i am rpm based distro guy :) just wondering if wanna pick centos or Ubuntu Ubuntu seem to has good desktop and server and lotso f users so wondering around ;)
[07:14] <techrush> metacity is the window manager gnome uses
[07:14] <Necrosan> yeah, I used XFce on my solaris box for awhile.
[07:14] <jblack> intelikey: try "lsmod | grep psmouse"
[07:14] <jblack> Did you get anything back for that?
[07:14] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:15] <bshumate> Necrosan: 386?!  make sure to operate that in some kind of museum! That may speed it up...especially if it is running beside something like an IBM PC-XT ;-)
[07:15] <Necrosan> techrush: What would I lose by switching from metacity to say, fluxbox?
[07:15] <eobanb> xerophyte, well you probably know that centOS is basically a clone of RHEL....for server software it largely comes down to what kind of support you need
[07:15] <Necrosan> bshumate: funny =P
[07:15] <intelikey> jblack nope module not loaded
[07:15] <jblack> try "modprobe psmouse; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; try using the mouse in console"
[07:15] <techrush> Necrosan im not really to sure ive just read a little about it
[07:15] <eobanb> xerophyte, there is plenty of professional support available for ubuntu...with centOS i don't know...with RHEL there  is of course
[07:15] <intelikey> that is what is happening. jblack now i can fix it.  thanks.
[07:15] <jblack> Ok. so you know to edit /etc/modules?
[07:16] <intelikey> jblack it's all console  :)
[07:16] <intelikey> yeah
[07:16] <sstchur> anyone know of a good photo organizer for linux?  that can easily crop and scale multipe images at once?
[07:16] <intelikey> thanks again
[07:16] <jblack> Welcome buddy.
[07:16] <xerophyte> eobanb, i am aware of cento close onf RHEL most of my work with  rpms and centos . .never used debian based one just wondering which way should i wann ago if iw anna provide srever to local busness
[07:16] <jblack> ejofee: Ok. I can give you my full attention now
[07:16] <Madpilot> sstchur: gThumb is good, not sure if it'll do multiple images at once though
[07:16] <jblack> ejofee: Lets recap
[07:16] <robotgeek> convert :)
[07:16] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Okay, I'm going to tweak your xorg.conf and paste a new one.
[07:17] <eobanb> xerophyte, i've found that package management tends to be better with debian/ubuntu than with rpm distros.  that's my opinion, though.  i urge you to try ubuntu as a server and see what you think
[07:17] <Zscach> yubimusubi, ty :)
[07:17] <sstchur> Madpilot, yeah... I was using gThumb and I do like it... but I don't think it will let me resize many images at once
[07:17] <jblack> Your problem is that your prompt shows the full working directory for $HOME when you start with kdm. That does not happen on the console.
[07:17] <ejofee> jblack: right
[07:17] <jblack> ejofee: Correct?
[07:17] <jblack> Ok.
[07:17] <jblack> And what did you tell me about your results when you typed "echo $PWD; cd; echo $PWD" ?
[07:17] <ejofee> jblack: also, not when i "startx" my x11 session
[07:18] <Zscach> yubimusubi,  how long will it take?
[07:18] <ejofee> jblack: "/home/ejofee"
[07:18] <intelikey> jblack let me send ya some flowers on that.   you are the only one i've talked to in here that was able to even point in the right direction,  well done. :)
[07:18] <jblack> intelikey: You're welcome. :)
[07:18] <xerophyte> eobanb, true thats what i am thinking i wanna provide support for desktop and servers, i am sure ubuntu is good for desktop .. so wanna use it for server too .. it should be better than centos because centos has only few users .. but is been used on many servers true because of RHEL clone ..
[07:18] <jblack> ejofee: And both lines are identical?
[07:19] <ejofee> jblack: yes
[07:19] <jblack> Are you sure?
[07:19] <xerophyte> eobanb, never touch deb development .. i dont think it should be hard to make deb package if you know rpms ..
[07:19] <eobanb> xerophyte, the ubuntu community's always been pretty friendly in my experience =)
[07:19] <xerophyte> eobanb, seems like and its seems bigger than centos one ;)
[07:20] <phiqtion> do i need to download a codec for dvdrip to use?
[07:20] <xerophyte> eobanb, can i msg you
[07:20] <eobanb> sure, xerophyte
[07:20] <jblack> ejofee: Want to cheat and just get the problem fixed?
[07:20] <eobanb> xerophyte, you may have to identify to nickserv before pm'ing
[07:20] <nicholaspaul> thx varsendagger - that looked like it did the trick . Phew!
[07:21] <ejofee> jblack: yes
[07:21] <ejofee> jblack: i hate to always see the full path
[07:21] <varsendagger> you bet
[07:21] <jblack> ejofee: then try this: "echo cd >> ~/.bashrc"
[07:21] <jblack> ejofee: Tell me if that fixes your problem
[07:21] <ejofee> jblack: yes, please wait
[07:21] <sethk> jblack, I wouldn't call it cheating
[07:21] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Try replacing xorg.conf with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5869 and press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart your X server.
[07:22] <varsendagger> nicholaspaul, what are you trying to compile?
[07:22] <Zscach> yubimusubi,  ty :)
[07:22] <jblack> sethk: fixing a symptom instead of the underlying problem its kinda like cheating to me. :)
[07:22] <sethk> well, maybe ...
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> varsendagger, something called fwcutter . apparently its meant to help getting Airport working
[07:23] <yubimusubi> Zscach: If that don't work...well, I can't find much info on your monitor.
[07:23] <sstchur> what is the command you run after getting a new app using apt-get so that you can find it?  I remember running apt-get on something ealier, and then I could not find it with "locate"  I had to run some update command ?
[07:23] <varsendagger> cool
[07:23] <intelikey> jblack i need to add  sound sound-core snd-es1688-lib snd-es1688  to my modules too but i'm not sure what order, you wouldn't know off hand would you ?
[07:23] <Zscach> yub :)ty! ill hope...
[07:23] <ejofee> jblack: yes, it does!!
[07:24] <jblack> Wow. I'm batting two for two
[07:24] <ejofee> jblack: thank you! however, shouldn't this give you any idea what caused the problem?
[07:24] <sethk> jblack, I would prefer cd $HOME
[07:24] <jblack> ejofee: Ok. We didn't fix your problem. We just worked around it.
[07:24] <jblack> sethk: Why is that?
[07:24] <sethk> jblack, probably because I use zsh, and the meaning of cd with no arguments depends on the configuration
[07:24] <jblack> intelikey: The order shouldn't matter (though one line could be redundant) if you don't have to specify module options
[07:25] <sethk> jblack, how is he getting into that situation?
[07:25] <jblack> sethk: Hmmm. Do you think he may have a problem with zsh reading .bashrc?
[07:25] <ejofee> sethk: me?
[07:25] <sethk> ejofee, yes, I'm curious
[07:25] <intelikey> no options needed but i'm pretty sure if the order is incorrect some of them fail to load.... been there before.
[07:25] <Killer_Smurf> hello all.  I have an interesting issue.  I have an acer lappy running breezy.  when I did the install I had 2x256 RAM.  Yesterday I changed to 2x512 RAM and could not boot up.  Tried 1 256 and 1 512 and no go.  tried 1 512 and no problems.  How can I add Ram without reinstalling or is it possible?
[07:26] <sethk> jblack, I haven't run into that, no, but I always have the zsh config files in the places where they are supposed to be.
[07:26] <jblack> sethk: We're not sure why he's getting into the situation. It looks like a bug in kdm somehow.
[07:26] <jblack> sethk: He's using bash. I think using bash syntax in the bash config file is acceptable. ;)
[07:26] <ejofee> sethk: when i use kdm, i get the expanded physical path for "~" as a prompt, while, when i use startx, i get "~" as a prompt.
[07:26] <sethk> jblack, yes, my objection is academic.
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> saludos
[07:27] <sethk> ejofee, that has to be a case of it being escaped where it shouldn't be, I would think
[07:27] <maruchan> is ther an wasy way to encode from divx to dvd. .like divxtodvd on windows
[07:27] <maruchan> ?
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> cd free
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> ???
[07:27] <maruchan> easy
[07:27] <intelikey> single quotes ejofee ?
[07:27] <ejofee> sethk: however, my problem is somehow "multilevel"... my /home folder is actually a symlink to another /home folder on another partition
[07:27] <edgardoweb_> alguien habla espaol
[07:27] <maruchan> or does divx to dvd work in wine?
[07:28] <Killer_Smurf> check winehq
[07:28] <Skif> le sigh-- I am trying to connect to my mother's new wireless network, and WEP does not seem to be playing nice with me.  I've set the SSID and the ASCII WEP key in my /etc/network/interfaces file, but although I can see the network, I can't seem to get a DHCP ack from the WAP.  Any suggestions?
[07:28] <intelikey> like PS1='your prompt'     or  PS1="your prompt"  ?
[07:28] <sethk> ejofee, I've run into a problem with that, actually, but it doesn't really apply here.
[07:28] <nimai> hi, im having a problem loading movies from a data dvd through konqueror.  whenever i go to the dvd from the media:/ directory and try and load a message, it appends my home directory to the file path, so i get an error like "could not play file from "file:///home/nimai/media:/scd0...etc
[07:28] <ejofee> intelikey: i don't know where they (the developers of kdm) might have used single quotes. but, anyway, why am i the only one to get the error
[07:29] <intelikey> ejofee have you set your own prompt in /etc/profile  or some place ?
[07:29] <ejofee> intelikey: no way! :)
[07:29] <jblack> intelikey: I was considering that, but "cd" would have not "fixed" it
[07:29] <intelikey> hmmm idk *shrugs*
[07:30] <intelikey> i agree jblack
[07:31] <jblack> Ok. So now that I took my turn for awhile, I'm having a nightmare of a time with acpi with my vaio on dapper.
[07:31] <cicada> hi all
[07:31] <intelikey> ok testing.
[07:32] <jblack> Bad things happen... suspend to memory is broken, the internal dvdrecorder doesn't come up at all, /proc/acpi/sony is mia, I'm unable to perofrm most laptop related power savings for the battery...
[07:32] <ITSa341> Hello Everyone
[07:32] <cicada> anyone got a few minutes to help me troubleshoot my wireless...?
[07:32] <xulMunkee> 'xmlto pdf foo.xml' doesn't work :-(
[07:33] <xulMunkee> anyone know what's up with xmltex?
[07:33] <varsendagger> hey ITSa341
[07:33] <ejofee> jblack (and sethk, intelikey): i wonder, if i didn't use a symlink, would i get the same error?
[07:33] <MacModder> hi
[07:33] <xulMunkee> !xmltex
[07:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, xulMunkee
[07:33] <xulMunkee> !xmlto
[07:33] <ubotu> xulMunkee: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:33] <jblack> ejofee: Thats the interesting question.
[07:33] <xulMunkee> !passivetex
[07:33] <ubotu> I don't know, xulMunkee
[07:34] <jblack> ejofee: I suspect its a kdm bug
[07:34] <cicada> I am using a Prism2.5 with the orinoco driver ... when i run cat /proc/net/wireless
[07:34] <cicada> Inter-| sta-|   Quality        |   Discarded packets               | Missed | WE
[07:34] <cicada>  face | tus | link level noise |  nwid  crypt   frag  retry   misc | beacon | 17  withno info below
[07:34] <xulMunkee> !docbook
[07:34] <ubotu> xulMunkee: Are you on ritalin?
[07:34] <jblack> Though how its presenting down in the bash world... Thats intriguing
[07:34] <intelikey> ladies and gentilmen we have mice :)
[07:34] <ITSa341> I'm really impressed with ubuntu. I booted it in my laptop and everything just works, wireless networking and all
[07:34] <ejofee> jblack: also, could it be related to permissions?
[07:34] <jblack> I doubt, but anything is possible.
[07:34] <MacModder> dose the ubuntu livecd work with the iMac G5/w iSight
[07:34] <MacModder> ?
[07:35] <cicada> yeah my wireless doesn't ... been trying to getr it working for weeks..  can't find any  basic enough info to help me
[07:35] <varsendagger> ITSa341, yeah it is killer
[07:35] <jblack> Its _very_ odd that "PS1 is $PWD; echo $PWD; cd; echo $PWD; PS1 is ~" is happening.
[07:35] <durt> itsa341 what kind of card do you have?
[07:35] <cicada> simple wireless on a IBM T30 laptop..
[07:35] <intelikey> and we have sound
[07:35] <Madpilot> intelikey: you have what? is it time to get a cat, or...
[07:35] <cicada> should work out of the boc
[07:35] <intelikey> Madpilot (:
[07:35] <ejofee> btw, is it possible to create a cd which installs ubuntu and is also live? (so that we may not need to download both)
[07:36] <ITSa341> I've used many distros in the past but none before this set up correctly by themselves.
[07:36] <poningru> ejofee: its beeing worked on
[07:36] <yubimusubi> welcome back Zscach...Did it help?
[07:36] <poningru> ejofee: it will be availble for dapper
[07:36] <Zscach> yubimusubi, it just screwed up my pc, so i had 2 change it back
[07:36] <yubimusubi> Zscach: Oh, I'm sorry...
[07:36] <Zscach> yubimusubi,  gtg ty anyway v:)
[07:36] <ITSa341> eMachines M5305 with a CompUSA PCMCIA 802.11b card
[07:36] <durt> whats it built in?
[07:36] <cicada> I like Ubuntu.... I have now ditcdhed windows for good... butr still no wireless... I have read all the FAQs .. and I am an IT professional....
[07:37] <ejofee> poningru: and will it replace both, or will the install cd also have to be created?
[07:37] <ITSa341> Nope, cheap $15.99 card
[07:37] <poningru> cicada: what do you mean no wireless?
[07:37] <poningru> ejofee: it will replace both
[07:37] <poningru> !express
[07:37] <ubotu> poningru: No idea
[07:37] <xulMunkee> anyone here use docbook-xml?
[07:37] <cicada> poningru: yeah... cat /proc/net/wireless reports nothing
[07:37] <ws006> bunga
[07:37] <Madpilot> ejofee: the plan, as I understand it, is for Dapper to have only a single CD
[07:38] <ejofee> poningru: this is very nice! pclinux os can be installed... from kde! (can you imagine that?)... i wonder, will it be possible for (k)ubuntu, too?
[07:38] <ejofee> s/it/this/
[07:38] <poningru> cicada: what wireless card are you using?
[07:38] <poningru> ejofee: yes ofcourse
[07:38] <poningru> ejofee: read the launchpad page on this
[07:38] <cicada> poningru: but my wireless card does show up in the device manager... ---- Prism 2.5 with orinoco drivers
[07:38] <ejofee> poningru: is it planned, too?
[07:38] <xulMunkee> oh boy, it's gonna be a _long_ night :(
[07:39] <ejofee> poningru: please give me a link to it
[07:39] <bshumate> xulMunkee: sometimes i use it...sometimes it uses me!
[07:39] <ejofee> poningru: and thank you for your answers
[07:39] <poningru> ejofee: hold on
[07:39] <ITSa341> I have one question, how dependable is the partitioning tool on the install cd? I had a drive hosed beyond recovery by a linux partitioning tool years ago.
[07:39] <cicada> poningru:  just not sure what step to take next
[07:39] <xulMunkee> bshumate, i wholeheartedly agree with the latter
[07:40] <poningru> ejofee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuExpress
[07:40] <robotgeek> cicada: which wireless card again?
[07:40] <windowmaker> arts is a table sound system, now that i ahve you attention is there any way to prevent a certain program from connecting to the internet?
[07:40] <cdubya> what's the package name I need to make sure that I get all of kde installed?
[07:40] <windowmaker> stable*
[07:40] <cicada> robotgeek: Prism 2.5 with orinoco pci driver
[07:40] <ejofee> poningru: thank you
[07:40] <intelikey> ITSa341 i haven't heard of anyone really having any problem with it other than nubs that don't know how to read.
[07:40] <robotgeek> cicada: no manufacturer of card
[07:40] <Madpilot> xulMunkee: if you've got Docbook questions, you might want to try #ubuntu-doc - Docbook XML is used in the Ubuntu docs, and some of the doc people are pretty good at it..
[07:41] <xulMunkee> Madpilot, thanks!!
[07:41] <ITSa341> intelikey  cool, like I said, that was years ago
[07:41] <poningru> cicada: hmm and it doesnt show up in network manager?
[07:41] <robotgeek> cicada: well, you said pci. my interest ends there :)
[07:41] <cicada> robotgeek: intersil
[07:41] <cicada> yes it shows up in network preferrences
[07:41] <poningru> then whats the prob?
[07:41] <poningru> does it not work?
[07:41] <poningru> hold on brb
[07:42] <intelikey> ITSa341 i (hatest to admit it) let mdraid fry a drive just a few weeks back but that has nothing to do with the install cd.
[07:42] <cicada> can't get it to connect to my access point.... works fine under windows
[07:42] <ITSa341> Ahh, another question. Is there support for temp and fan speed monitoring and or processor speed control comparable to AMD's Powernow or SpeedswitchXP?
[07:43] <intelikey> not sure about specifics like amd but yes there are apps ITSa341
[07:43] <durt> its activated right cicada?
[07:43] <cicada> is there any way i can get some kinda info on whether it can see my access point... yes it is active
[07:44] <ITSa341> I run from battery a lot of the time and AMD's Powernow  and Speedswitch help with battery time and temp. Temp is a major factor on the eMachine M5305.
[07:44] <intelikey> ITSa341 my hardware is so old it doesnt have fan control support.  hardwired to the ps
[07:44] <durt> iwlist wlan0 scan
[07:44] <cicada> durt: thanks mate
[07:44] <durt> wow - i just ran that and i can see 2 of my neighbors unencrypted networks ;)
[07:45] <windowmaker> durt: awesome
[07:45] <ITSa341> I can't wait to try this on my gaming machine. It runs fast from the cdrom on this laptop it'll scream on my gamer
[07:45] <windowmaker> durt: steal their broadbadn internet!
[07:45] <Madpilot> durt: so use them and save yourself a broadband bill! :)
[07:45] <cicada> durt: iwlist eth0 scan
[07:45] <cicada> eth0      Interface doesn't support scannin
[07:45] <windowmaker> durt: i know an evil fellow who bought a satellite dish JUST for the purpose of staeling his neighbour's broadband
[07:45] <cdubya> !kdemultimedia
[07:45] <ubotu> cdubya: Are you on ritalin?
[07:46] <intelikey> hehhe i'm talking to you on a p133mmx ITSa341 :)     yeah linux is kewl ya know
[07:46] <cicada> i can't seem to get any of the wireless extensions to do anything
[07:46] <windowmaker> intelikey: i once overclocked one of them to 300mhz, and then one day we had a power surge and it killed 32mb of ram
[07:46] <ITSa341> I have made probably 20 to 30 "cantennas" from dish network dishes. I "shared"y internet connection from my house to my g/f's house   6 miles away
[07:47] <poningru> ITSa341: nice
[07:47] <ITSa341> shared **my**
[07:47] <durt> cicada: does iwconfig return any wireless extensions?
[07:47] <cicada> eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"cicada"  Nickname:"Prism  I"
[07:47] <cicada>           Mode:Managed  Bit Rate:11 Mb/s
[07:47] <cicada>           RTS thr:off
[07:47] <cicada>           Encryption key:D7FE-7DA4-E890-4662-023D-DC8E-D9   Security mode:open
[07:47] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:47] <cicada> is the ESSID meant to be the id of my access point?
[07:48] <robotgeek> cicada: yes
[07:48] <windowmaker> !ubotu
[07:48] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:48] <windowmaker> yay
[07:48] <cicada> thats wha i thougth
[07:48] <windowmaker> it knows itself!
[07:48] <windowmaker> do NOT play? =(
[07:48] <cicada> !cicada
[07:48] <ubotu> cicada: Are you smoking crack?
[07:48] <cicada> =)
[07:48] <ITSa341> out of ALL the linux distros I have tried, Ubuntu and Linspire are the only two I have found with friendly communities. RH and others shun newbies. This is nice.
[07:48] <windowmaker> !crack
[07:48] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[07:48] <windowmaker> HAHA
[07:48] <windowmaker> AWESOME
[07:48] <robotgeek> lol
[07:48] <xulMunkee> has anyone successfully converted from docbook-xml to PDF using xmlto on ubuntu?
[07:48] <durt> is it possible to join 2 wireless networks at once?
[07:48] <windowmaker> !docbook-xml
[07:48] <ubotu> windowmaker: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:48] <_jason> ha that's a good one
[07:49] <intelikey> so i'm like using this pre-windows 95 machine with 64m of ram and no swap running kde (some times console right now)  and i hear these folks come in here and ask if ubuntu will run on their box with only 512m ram and 2g of swap.   and i'm  like  duh, yeah!
[07:49] <windowmaker> aw
[07:49] <windowmaker> !windows
[07:49] <ubotu> [windows]  unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[07:49] <xulMunkee> lol
[07:49] <cicada> cept my wireless =(
[07:49] <windowmaker> !alternative
[07:49] <ubotu> well, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[07:49] <windowmaker> this thing is great!
[07:49] <robotgeek> !msgthebot
[07:49] <windowmaker> !msgthebot
[07:49] <windowmaker> nothing
[07:49] <windowmaker> !nothing
[07:49] <_jason> ha he messaged you...
[07:49] <ubotu> windowmaker: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:49] <windowmaker> HAH
[07:49] <robotgeek> windowmaker: check your pm
[07:50] <windowmaker> !no
[07:50] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[07:50] <cicada> what should i try next fellas?
[07:50] <varsendagger> hey i can't seem to get qcad to do anything really, how do i make a friggen line and cahnge the distance of the line?
[07:50] <intelikey> this one guy with 2g of ram was so worried because he forgot to make a swap partition ...  and i'm like with 2g of ram why swap ?
[07:50] <windowmaker> in PM the ubotu doesn't understand anything =\
[07:51] <windowmaker> !pm
[07:51] <ubotu> pm is, like, totally, Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[07:51] <xulMunkee> !ubotu
[07:51] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:51] <durt> thats a helluva lot of ram
[07:51] <Madpilot> windowmaker: leave the ! off when you're talking to the bot in /msg
[07:51] <windowmaker> Madpilot oh cool
[07:51] <CaptainMorgan> does ubuntu make use a destop.ini file ?
[07:51] <ejofee> poningru: then i guess it won't even be necessary to use the current text-based installer... will it be added any longer?
[07:51] <intelikey> tell me
[07:51] <varsendagger> anyone?
[07:51] <CaptainMorgan> my cursor has frozen and I can't get it back to normal..
[07:51] <Killer_Smurf> hello all.  I have an interesting issue.  I have an acer lappy running breezy.  when I did the install I had 2x256 RAM.  Yesterday I changed to 2x512 RAM and could not boot up.  Tried 1 256 and 1 512 and no go.  tried 1 512 and no problems.  How can I add Ram without reinstalling or is it possible?
[07:53] <cicada> Intersil got bought by Conexant... and they have no info about the old intersil products
[07:53] <ejofee> why, is LILO more reliable than GRUB!? ("Since we only intend to offer GRUB as the bootloader on i386/amd64 systems, we may need to disable some partitioning choices that currently cause the installer to fall back to LILO.")
[07:53] <cicada> it's only 3 years old
[07:53] <Quequeg> Killer_Smurf, try booting memtest86 from CD or floppy with the new memory to confirm it works in a neutral environment.
[07:53] <intelikey> if ya ax'in me about the ram, you ax'n the wrong guy....
[07:53] <dennis__> !breezy
[07:53] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:53] <Killer_Smurf> Quequeq done... it's ok
[07:53] <cicada> why won't my wireless externsions work
[07:53] <dennis__> hmm
[07:54] <dennis__> the ubuntu wiki isn't working :/
[07:54] <crimsun> ejofee: there are instances where grub cannot work due to the placement of /boot
[07:54] <Quequeg> Killer_Smurf, so you don't even get a grub/lilo error?
[07:54] <_jason> dennis__, ?
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> does ubuntu make use a destop.ini file ?
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> my cursor has frozen and I can't get it back to normal..
[07:54] <dennis__> It isn't loading _jason
[07:54] <_jason> dennis__, strange, it's loading here
[07:54] <CaptainMorgan> i think I may have delted it
[07:54] <dennis__> Hmm
[07:55] <dennis__> Maybe i should update everything in ubuntu first
[07:55] <dennis__> :/
[07:55] <xulMunkee> CaptainMorgan, if ur using gnome it keeps all its settings in ~/.gconf.d
[07:55] <intelikey> CaptainMorgan [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace] 
[07:55] <dennis__> I just installed 5.04
[07:55] <xulMunkee> CaptainMorgan, (correction) ~/.gconfd
[07:55] <cicada> I have no idea where to go next.. this is really frustrating.
[07:55] <dennis__> And firefox isn't working
[07:55] <dennis__> :/
[07:55] <ejofee> crimsun: oh, that's why my ubuntu could not boot (with grub installed on a partition instead of the mbr)
[07:55] <CaptainMorgan> I set ctrl to locate the cursor... i hit and location is apparent but the cursor Im seeing elswhere looks like a +
[07:55] <Killer_Smurf> no it gets past that and I get and apic error for the cpu ... then it freezes tring to load the acpi mods.  it works with the mem chips individ. but not it I try and change the amounts.  It says somthing about trying to resume
[07:56] <ejofee> crimsun: but why then is grub considered more advanced than lilo?!
[07:56] <_jason> dennis, go to about:config and filter for 'ipv6' set disable ipv6 to TRUE
[07:56] <_jason> dennis__, ^
[07:56] <dennis__> k
[07:56] <dennis__> thanks
[07:56] <crimsun> ejofee: it has different features
[07:56] <ejofee> crimsun: ... and... is this supposed to change in the future?
[07:56] <Linuturk> alas, despite robotgeek's best efforts, we have failed at my wireless card :( I am off to sleep to dream a nightmare of bash compile commands :(
[07:56] <crimsun> ejofee: not unless grub is rewritten
[07:56] <Cryptid> I am Plnning to Buy a XFX 6600 PCI-e Card,,,, is it compatible with Ubuntu???????
[07:56] <robotgeek> crimsun: easiest way to install gcc-3.4?
[07:56] <dennis__> !breezy
[07:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:57] <Quequeg> Killer_Smurf, I'm not sure I'm going to be much help, but for the record, what is the CPU/chipset/MB/memory type/speed?
[07:57] <robotgeek> no ned connection
[07:57] <intelikey> he'll be back as soon as gnome starts....
[07:57] <robotgeek> net conection, err
[07:57] <ejofee> crimsun: then ubuntu should use lilo by default, so that as few newbyes as possible would have problems with booting. right?
[07:57] <trappist> how do I replace the ubuntu boot splash?
[07:57] <crimsun> ejofee: no, that's precisely why grub is used
[07:57] <captain_> ctrl - alt -bcksp , how do I get x back ?
[07:58] <durt> mepis is amazing with wireless cards, i tried it on my old laptop and it immediately had my card working
[07:58] <cicada> when I thry and activate my wireless connection (eth0) it takes ages...  then eventually it says it's active..... does this mean it is actually connected.. to the access point?
[07:58] <Killer_Smurf> Quequeq It is An acer travelmate 1.4 celeron M sis 661 chipset (I think) and the mem type is pc2700
[07:58] <intelikey> wait crimsun, run that by me again ?
[07:58] <robotgeek> what's the easiest way to install gcc-3.4 without an internet connection?
[07:58] <captain_> cicada - should be..
[07:58] <Killer_Smurf> sodimms
[07:58] <phiqtion> is there somewhere where i can download cool stuff for ubuntu?
[07:58] <crimsun> intelikey: run what?
[07:58] <ejofee> crimsun: why? do you actually mean that lilo is less reliable?
[07:58] <captain_> robotgeek - syn ?
[07:59] <robotgeek> captain_: is it on the install cd?
[07:59] <crimsun> ejofee: no, lilo is much more difficult to use in rescue cases
[07:59] <ejofee> crimsun: right
[07:59] <captain_> asfaik.. try it
[07:59] <kuxman> phiqtion, use the Synaptic Package Manager... it has lots of programs and applications
[07:59] <cdubya> anyone else have trouble with sound under fluxbox?
[07:59] <ejofee> crimsun: but won't ubuntu cd include a rescue option anyway?
[07:59] <cicada> how can i actually test it?
[07:59] <captain_> how do I get X back after ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[07:59] <intelikey> crimsun if grub cant work with some fs's that lilo can, and 'grub is default so as few newbees have trubble as possable'  what am i missing there ?
[07:59] <cicada> as in how can i send a ping via a particular network card
[08:00] <_jason> captain_, it should have restarted, if not: log in and type 'startx'
[08:00] <crimsun> ejofee: lilo relies on a hardcoded image map, unlike grub, which makes it restrictive
[08:00] <crimsun> intelikey: see what I just typed
[08:00] <Zen> For some reason, Kopete will not draw its tray icon.
[08:00] <captain_> _jason - using irssi right now, how do I shortcut to command line withouth losing irssi ?
[08:00] <Zen> Any pointers?
[08:00] <cicada> somepone must know how to send a ping via a particular nic?
[08:00] <intelikey> yeah i see it but how is that restrictive to a newbee ?
[08:00] <skwashd> hi all
[08:01] <bshumate> cicada:  ping -I <interface>
[08:01] <captain_> cicada ping to theMAC ?
[08:01] <_jason> captain_, ALT+F# where # is an actual number from 1-7 ?
[08:01] <crimsun> intelikey: it has nothing to do with newbie
[08:01] <bshumate> cicada: that's capital EYE.... man ping
[08:01] <crimsun> intelikey: it has everything to do with "what works for the most common case"
[08:01] <cicada> thanks guys
[08:01] <Cryptid> Does Any Body Here Use a GPU such as LEadtek or XFX on their Ubuntu???????
[08:01] <ejofee> crimsun: however, does grub deal better with changing partition numbering? (lilo doesn't recognise partitions any longer when one adds or removes certain other partitions)
[08:01] <skwashd> i have a bit of a mess in lost+found ... so i want to find all of MP3s in there and rename them from 47897945687 to 47897945687.mpg
[08:02] <skwashd> i can't work it out ... i am stuck at ... file * | grep MP3 | cut -d: -f1 | xargs mv -v '{}' '{}'.mp3
[08:02] <crimsun> ejofee: no, it's about the same.
[08:02] <skwashd> any suggestions ?
[08:02] <crimsun> skwashd: uh what?
[08:02] <poningru_> doh
[08:02] <crimsun> skwashd: please state precisely what you're attempting to do
[08:03] <edgardoweb_> www.entrecopas.com <--------------------
[08:03] <skwashd> crimsun: i did ... <skwashd> i have a bit of a mess in lost+found ... so i want to find all of MP3s in there and rename them from 47897945687 to 47897945687.mpg
[08:03] <intelikey> see that's what i'm missing.  you said "<ejofee> crimsun: then ubuntu should use lilo by default, so that as few newbyes as possible would have problems with booting. right? <-> <crimsun> ejofee: no, that's precisely why grub is used"  <-- precisely means (to me anyway) that it has everything to do with newbees.
[08:03] <skwashd> whoops ... s/mpg/mp3/g
[08:03] <CaptainMorgan> ah.. tha'ts betters..
[08:03] <edgardoweb_> www.entrecopas.com
[08:03] <cicada> network settings says its active, but I cannot ping my gateway via that interface...
[08:04] <intelikey> but it is probably offtopic
[08:04] <crimsun> intelikey: "as few [sic]  as possible would have problems with booting" is precisely the case that I outlined
[08:04] <robotgeek> what's the easiest way to install gcc-3.4 without an internet connection? is it present on the install cd?
[08:04] <ejofee> intelikey: and i agreed. so maybe i don't understand what you mean by mentioning this.
[08:04] <Zen> I need help getting Kopete to draw its tray icon (it normally does, but not on this install--volume is still there)
[08:04] <durt> cicada: you have that device setup right? you've played with the its properties in network settings?
[08:04] <Linuturk> yes, back to windows XP
[08:04] <bshumate> skwashd: all files in lost+found are mp3 with no extension?
[08:04] <skwashd> bshumate: some
[08:04] <skwashd> there is a lot of other crap in there too
[08:04] <crimsun> skwashd: your requirement is unclear
[08:04] <robotgeek> Linuturk: later then
[08:05] <ejofee> intelikey: oh, you were not only addressing me
[08:05] <intelikey> hehe no
[08:05] <crimsun> skwashd: how do you tell what is an mp3?
[08:05] <cicada> durt: well i belive so... I am using WEP...  maybe I should turn that off for testing
[08:05] <skwashd> file * | grep MP3
[08:05] <skwashd> crimsun: works pretty well :)
[08:05] <crimsun> skwashd: that presumes "MP3" appears somewhere in the file listing.
[08:06] <crimsun> that does not actually confirm the file type _is_ an mp3
[08:06] <skwashd> this ... file * | grep MP3 | cut -d: -f1 ... gives me the list of names of files which are just mp3s
[08:06] <skwashd> crimsun: it is close enough
[08:06] <crimsun> skwashd: why wouldn't you just ls -R *.MP3 then?
[08:07] <ejofee> crimsun: ok, it's about the same, but does it at least allow for easier fix, giving its enhanced rescue features?
[08:07] <bz0b> hey all
[08:07] <crimsun> ejofee: yes
[08:07] <ejofee> crimsun: i mean, can i fix this without using a live cd
[08:07] <skwashd> crimsun: because there is other shit in there too
[08:07] <ricky> will any one talk to me?
[08:07] <skwashd> and it doesn't have any extension
[08:07] <skwashd> hi ricky
[08:07] <crimsun> skwashd: then ls -R *MP3*
[08:08] <bz0b> a couple nights ago, i installed breezy 5.10 with the intention that i will do something with it, but at this point, i have no idea what to do, does anyone have any ideas on what i can do to have some fun?
[08:08] <skwashd> crimsun: there is no fucking extenion ... it is lost+found
[08:08] <ricky> do you wont to talk
[08:08] <varsendagger> ricky,  what's up
[08:08] <ejofee> crimsun: then i might prefer grub from now on, it just that i don't understand why it told me it couldn't *mount* partitions. it couldn't mount *anything*. do you have any idea why?
[08:08] <robotgeek> skwashd: language, please
[08:08] <skwashd> see my original question
[08:08] <bshumate> skwashd: try this:  for i in `file * | grep MP3 | cut -d: -f 1`; do mv $i $i.mp3; done
[08:08] <poningru_> bz0b: what do you mean?
[08:08] <poningru_> bz0b: I mean there are games
[08:08] <bz0b> well
[08:08] <bz0b> i don't like games too much
[08:08] <crimsun> skwashd: uh, *MP3* doesn't have anything to do with extensions
[08:08] <poningru_> bz0b: what do you want to do?
[08:09] <skwashd> bshumate: thanks ... that is what i was after
[08:09] <bshumate> skwashd: and please use better language in here than that!
[08:09] <bz0b> i want to do something i don't have to read too much for, but will challenge me
[08:09] <ricky> lets go to a chat just me and you cool
[08:09] <alekz> hi, if i install xubuntu-desktop using apt and then i unistall it if i dont like it gnome will be afected ?
[08:09] <bz0b> and maybe even teach me something
[08:09] <f3ar> does anyone know how output the contents of a directory to a txt file?
[08:09] <bz0b> i would love to learn to code
[08:09] <bz0b> but i am just lazy
[08:09] <skwashd> bshumate: i will try to
[08:09] <robotgeek> f3ar: ls > list.ext
[08:09] <varsendagger> bz0b, install fluxbox
[08:09] <bz0b> sure
[08:09] <drcode> hji all
[08:09] <bz0b> why noy
[08:09] <drcode> what happend to freenode?
[08:09] <bz0b> not*
[08:09] <f3ar> robotgeek, that was easy thanks
[08:09] <cicada> durt: still no luck.. without WEP
[08:10] <robotgeek> f3ar: you might also want to look at "tee"
[08:10] <varsendagger> yeah you get to code in that and it aint to hard
[08:10] <drcode> in frayday there was a prob?
[08:10] <Cryptid> Is Nvidia 6600 Graphic Card Compatable with Ubuntu Breezy ???
[08:10] <f3ar> robotgeek, is there a way to do that automatically when i put a cd in?
[08:10] <bz0b> ok what next, thats done
[08:11] <cicada> durt: "Network Settings" says it's active...  but it does not show up on the "Station list" of my access point
[08:11] <varsendagger> ricky, do you know waht qcad is?
[08:11] <bz0b> hmm, anyone know of any good mp3 downloading software for *nix
[08:11] <intelikey> arrr i hate when coders put the space after the ; in place of before it.
[08:12] <bz0b> intelikey, like for ; do
[08:12] <intelikey> if [ blah ]  ;then     not   if [ blah ] ; then
[08:12] <bz0b> eww
[08:12] <bz0b> yeah i know what you mean
[08:12] <bz0b> either its for;do or for ; do
[08:12] <durt> cicada: sorry, i don't know how else i can help. is your default gateway device set to eth0? anyway, i better go to bed or something
[08:12] <grayman> !nvidia
[08:12] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:12] <cicada> aaarrrgghhh this is really frustrating  =(
[08:12] <intelikey> white space is cheep.   use it.
[08:13] <robotgeek> f3ar: it's doable, System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media. put your script to execute as soon as it detects?
[08:13] <cicada> durt: last time i tried to do that "network settings" crashed
[08:13] <dennis__> Man
[08:13] <dennis__> This breezy upgrade takes forever :P
[08:13] <bz0b> brb
[08:13] <dennis__> Anyone here using kubuntu in breezy?
[08:14] <cicada> durt: thanks for trying to help my friend..  sleep well
[08:14] <bz0b> i haven't tried it
[08:14] <intelikey> i sleep now.   good night every body.
[08:14] <dennis__> im gonna try it in a few minutes
[08:14] <dennis__> :o
[08:14] <ejofee> dennis__: me! me!!
[08:14] <dennis__> It work okay?
[08:14] <dennis__> I've used it on FreeBSD and it ran great
[08:14] <ejofee> dennis__: absolutely
[08:14] <varsendagger> dennis__, hoary to breezy aint to bad
[08:14] <dennis__> So I'm hoping it works fine on here
[08:14] <dennis__> kk
[08:14] <ejofee> dennis__: kubuntu on freebsd?
[08:14] <dennis__> no
[08:14] <dennis__> KDE on FreeBSD
[08:15] <_smd_> This music vid  iwant to down loaf is all in real player, how do I watch it?
[08:15] <dennis__> KDE > Gnome
[08:15] <bz0b> ubotu tell _smd_ about restricted
[08:15] <poningru_> !tell _smd_ about realplay
[08:15] <poningru_> doh
[08:15] <poningru_> !realplayer
[08:15] <ubotu> realplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:15] <Zen> dennis__: that is just begging for a war =D
[08:15] <fatehaze> can i run wine on powerpc architecture?
[08:16] <poningru_> dennis__: dont start flame wars please
[08:16] <durt> !start a wm war
[08:16] <ubotu> durt: Are you smoking crack?
[08:16] <durt> !start a de war
[08:16] <ubotu> No idea, durt
[08:16] <robotgeek> !offtopic
[08:16] <ubotu> somebody said offtopic was Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:16] <poningru_> !start a flame war
[08:16] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, poningru_
[08:16] <force> haha
[08:16] <durt> !start a race riot
[08:16] <ubotu> durt: I give up, what is it?
[08:16] <nelposto> dun dunnnnnnnnn.. mounting issues... i'm gonna fstab myself if i can't get this working :(
[08:16] <bz0b> ubotu tell bz0b about weed
[08:16] <durt> !start a jihad
[08:16] <Zen> nelposto: what is wrong
[08:16] <ubotu> durt: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:16] <nelposto> geddit? fstab ah ah ah aah ha a ah
[08:17] <fatehaze> i'm using ubuntu on an old clamshell 300mhz iBook, can i run wine on it?
[08:17] <bz0b> wow i just installed kubuntu-desktop, all 142 mb's of it, in 2 minues
[08:17] <nelposto> Zen .. i'm trying to mount ntfs filesystems in fstab... but I don't have permissions to view them unless I'm in root
[08:17] <bz0b> minutes*
[08:17] <dennis__> lol bz0b
[08:17] <nelposto> i can't work out what options to put in fstab to make them work
[08:17] <Zen> nelposto: easy--sec
[08:17] <bz0b> nelposto sudo!
[08:17] <crimsun> nelposto: mount them with umask=022
[08:18] <Zen> nelposto: for type use ntfs, for options use ro,umask=0222
[08:18] <bz0b> or do you not have access to root?
[08:18] <nelposto> bz0b i dont want to have to sudo just to view my other partitions..
[08:18] <bz0b> oh
[08:18] <nelposto> Zen .. just like that in fstab?
[08:18] <Zen> you won't have to nelposto
[08:18] <Zen> yeah
[08:18] <nelposto> ok
[08:18] <nelposto> excellent
[08:18] <nelposto> i'll give it a try
[08:18] <fatehaze> anyone?  nein?  i assume wine didn't come with the powerpc distro for a reason
[08:18] <bz0b> nelposto, sorry if that sounded noob, but i am still kinda of new
[08:19] <nelposto> bz0b me too, all good
[08:19] <nelposto> off to try
[08:19] <nelposto> thanks guys
[08:19] <bz0b> alright then
[08:19] <Steil> fatehaze: you cannot use wine on a powerpc because the binaries that wine would run are compiled for i386, however applications can be ported to linux-ppc with winelib (this requires the source though)
[08:20] <fatehaze> gotcha, many thanks
[08:20] <bz0b> would someone mind telling me how to use the i686 kernel instead of the i386, i hear it would make my system run faster
[08:20] <ejofee> grub says can't *mount* partitions. no partition can be mounted, either ubuntu or windows or any other gnu/linux distro. does anyone have any idea why?
[08:20] <fatehaze> i doubt i could run anything acceptably on this thing anyway
[08:20] <crimsun> ejofee: grub doesn't have any concept of mounting anything
[08:20] <silverton> is there a way to disable the power button from within ubuntu?
[08:21] <kuxman__> I've got 3 NIC cards, and my connection works just fine if only one card is enabled... but when I activate two or more cards, nothing works... I can't ping anything... suggestions?
[08:22] <force> silverton: depends on the cmos configuration, it is possible to mask the interrupts, yes.
[08:22] <crimsun> kuxman__: you have to configure the routing correctly
[08:22] <dennis__> After i update from hoary to breezy
[08:22] <dennis__> Do i have to reboot?
[08:22] <Zen> I've got a program that won't create a tray icon.  Need help
[08:22] <ejofee> crimsun: then it's even weirder, isn't it?
[08:22] <crimsun> ejofee: weirder than what?
[08:23] <kuxman__> point me in the right direction... where would I find settings for routing, and what should I look for... some sort of confliction?
[08:23] <ejofee> crimsun: than simply not working (with not "mounting" error)
[08:23] <ejofee> crimsun: than simply not working (with no "mounting" error)
[08:23] <crimsun> ejofee: do you have the precise error?
[08:23] <benplaut> is it possible to have a seperate gtkrc (so as to have different sized fonts) for gnome-panel?
[08:23] <force> kuxman__: check for interrupt conflicts, perhaps a faulty nic?
[08:23] <benplaut> i want mine thinner :(
[08:23] <ejofee> crimsun: i am exactly on the machine which gets the error
[08:23] <crimsun> kuxman__: how have you configured each nic?
[08:23] <ejofee> crimsun: i will reboot
[08:24] <ejofee> crimsun: please wait
[08:24] <Zen> how do I get wine running on 5.10 AMD64?
[08:24] <benplaut> pm me if you have a clue
[08:24] <ejofee> crimsun: ok?
[08:24] <f3ar> robotfear, when i'm in the cdrom0 directory and use ls > list.txt it says read-only, however, when i use ls > /home/f3ar/list.txt it says doesn't exist...do you know what i'm doing wrong?
[08:24] <bz0b> is this the correct syntax to get the 686 kernel?
[08:24] <bz0b>  sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[08:24] <blanky> man ubuntu is really slow isn't it
[08:24] <Zen> blanky: nope
[08:24] <crimsun> bz0b: linux-686 is safer
[08:24] <poningru_> bz0b: do you have more than one proc?
[08:24] <Zen> blanky: mine runs quite fast
[08:25] <bz0b> no
[08:25] <poningru_> bz0b: I would stick with the one without smp
[08:25] <kuxman__> I'm at a university... and each network card is registered according to MAC address and student account.  Each card is assigned a static IP address (but the DHCP server is smart enough to assign correctly)
[08:25] <blanky> Zen: do your windows lag at redrawing
[08:25] <bz0b> how do i remove the smp one then?
[08:25] <blanky> i have ati 9800pro, drivers are working too
[08:25] <bz0b> i just downloaded it
[08:25] <f3ar> robotfear, it worked nm
[08:25] <crimsun> kuxman__: you have to have a default route
[08:25] <bz0b> or will grub let me choose when i reboot?
[08:26] <kuxman__> ideally, my goal is to be able to load balance torrent downloads accross all three nics
[08:26] <Zen> blanky: Yeah--but it has been that way in Mandrake, Knoppix, Debian, and this too.  I've never seen windows draw like Windows windows.
[08:26] <ricky> hi mrkoje
[08:26] <kuxman__> would I set up the default root in my firewall settings?
[08:26] <kuxman__> route*
[08:26] <blanky> Zen: Yeah I guess, that sucks doesn't it lol
[08:26] <blanky> Zen: I think fedora, yeah fedora was pretty fast at it.
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> In Hoary I recall folder properties ( size of the window - memory ), was found in System/Preferences/File Management.... now In Breezy, I can't find it...
[08:26] <bz0b> brb
[08:27] <Zen> blanky: yeah, but I can live with it I guess
[08:27] <crimsun> kuxman__: it's more complicated than that
[08:27] <Zen> blanky: I suspect a real video driver would help, but it isn't available for my with ATI hardware in x86-64
[08:27] <blanky> Zen: heh, I can't. But that's the only real glitch
[08:28] <kuxman__> the load balancing or the default route?
[08:28] <blanky> nah it doesnt
[08:28] <blanky> i have them installed on mine (ATI too) and doesnt make a diff
[08:28] <Zen> blanky: are you running AMD64?
[08:28] <fatehaze> are there any real (as in current) advantages to running 64-bit ubuntu?
[08:28] <blanky> Zen: x86
[08:28] <crimsun> kuxman__: load balancing
[08:28] <crimsun> kuxman__: default route is simple
[08:28] <Zen> blanky: too bad--I can't get the ATI drivers to work in 3D
[08:28] <fatehaze> or just a minor performance gain until 64-bit apps start rolling around?
[08:29] <Zen> fatehaze: a 64-bit system is really responsive
[08:29] <kuxman__> do you have any suggestions on the load balancing?
[08:29] <Zen> fatehaze: I suppose it is the extra CPU registers mainly
[08:29] <bz0b> hey all
[08:29] <Zen> fatehaze: not the register width
[08:29] <bz0b> im back
[08:29] <bz0b> i got the 686 kernel installed
[08:30] <bz0b> i wonder if i will feel a diffrence in speed
[08:30] <Zen> bz0b: I always used to install the K7 kernels for my Athlon XP but never noticed a difference
[08:30] <bz0b> oh, well, i have an athlon 64 2800+. but i hear packages are easier to find for the 686 kernel the for the 64 bit kernel
[08:31] <Zen> bz0b: to be honest--there is better AMD64 support in terms of software out there for linux than for XP64
[08:31] <Zen> bz0b: gobs of it AMD64 compatible
[08:32] <Zen> bz0b: everything I use really
[08:32] <bz0b> and at the moment everything i use
[08:32] <Zen> bz0b: firefox, kopete, xmms, etc
[08:32] <bz0b> but i might get a new video card soon
[08:32] <bz0b> so cedega wouldn't be available
[08:32] <poningru_> bz0b: if you have a amd64 dont use the 686 kernel
[08:32] <bz0b> why not?
[08:32] <bz0b> should i use the 386 then?
[08:32] <Zen> bz0b: that is one thing for sure, 3D support is tough (though you can use linux32 and run wine/cedega just fine)
[08:33] <Zen> good night guys
[08:33] <Zen> AFK--next eight hours
[08:33] <bz0b> g'bightr
[08:33] <bz0b> g'night*
[08:34] <poningru_> bz0b: you should install linux-image-k7
[08:34] <dennis__> you know what is gay
[08:34] <bz0b> for amd64
[08:34] <dennis__> I subscriped to transgaming
[08:34] <dennis__> Got cedega...
[08:34] <dennis__> My subscription ended..
[08:34] <bz0b> yeah? do you have a good video card?
[08:34] <dennis__> and i cant get the release :(
[08:35] <bz0b> poningru_, should i get the k7 image for the amd64. socket 754
[08:35] <blanky> anyone know where I could buy 'junk' computers, working computers taht are very old, for cheap prices?
[08:35] <dennis__> if you find out blanky tell me
[08:36] <dennis__> I need a pci video card
[08:36] <dennis__> :(
[08:36] <blanky> lol
[08:36] <dennis__> So i can run 2 monitors :)
[08:36] <bz0b> blanky, i do, but do you live in southrn california
[08:36] <dennis__> I wish my mobo had 2 agp slots
[08:36] <dennis__> I live in NorCAL :)
[08:36] <blanky> bz0b, yes i live in SoCal
[08:36] <dennis__> hook it up
[08:37] <bz0b> blanky, well, i live in  san dimas, and if you know where that is, then i know where you can get cheap computers
[08:37] <Ludens> blanky: do you have a computer renaissance or "Eagle Micro" nearby?
[08:37] <bz0b> like p2 p3 level
[08:37] <blanky> yes, I live in diamond bar lol
[08:37] <blanky> very close
[08:37] <bz0b> for like 15-20
[08:37] <bz0b> lol
[08:37] <bz0b> i live in s.d.
[08:37] <blanky> bz0b, just tell me the place please
[08:37] <blanky> bz0b, i have to go, please tell me
[08:37] <bz0b> san dimas high school computer club
[08:37] <blanky> Ludens, "Eagle Micro" ? I'll look it up
[08:37] <blanky> okay
[08:37] <blanky> brb
[08:37] <bz0b> kk
[08:38] <dennis__> bz0b, should i reboot after upgrading to breezy?
[08:38] <bz0b> yes
[08:38] <dennis__> kk
[08:38] <Ludens> blanky: my friend just bought three dell optiplexes, ~450mhz each, for $20 total
[08:38] <Ludens> this was at eagle micro
[08:38] <bz0b> cool
[08:39] <Ludens> he remarks them as "snappy" with win2000, because of the memory's cache size.
[08:39] <bz0b> Ludens are you from idiana
[08:39] <Ludens> yup
[08:39] <bz0b> ha, i knew it
[08:39] <bz0b> eagle micro is in indiana
[08:40] <bz0b> so how do you expect someone from so cal to come there to get the computers
[08:40] <bz0b> unless they ship that cheap
[08:40] <bz0b> hehe
[08:40] <Ludens> oh, there's only one eagle micro....
[08:40] <bz0b> yeah
[08:40] <Ludens> didn't know that.
[08:40] <bz0b> yeah
[08:40] <Ludens> but i do know there's computer renaissance's at least as far as utah.
[08:41] <Ludens> yup, two
[08:43] <bz0b> ludens, that eagle micro has pretty good prices on computers
[08:43] <bz0b> i just checked out their pre-builts, and they are good pricing
[08:44] <pulaski> hi
[08:44] <Ludens> 'lo
[08:45] <edgardoweb_> cat /var/log/dmesg | grep hd
[08:45] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the font //only// on gnome-panel, but leave the rest alone?
[08:45] <ejofee> crimsun: still there?
[08:45] <Ludens> is there a way to boot into a plain console in ubuntu, without the gui and x-windows?
[08:45] <dragoon> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
[08:45] <crimsun> ejofee: ?
[08:45] <pulaski> I have a question about my new install of ubuntu 5.10
[08:45] <dragoon> any ideas when i get that when i try ping something as anormal user
[08:46] <ejofee> crimsun: i booted and i noted down everything grub was saying
[08:46] <force> dragoon: icmp requires raw sockets, which is root access, if you want a normal user to have access make the binary suid
[08:46] <dragoon> force: ok and how would i go about that ?
[08:46] <pulaski> my network connection app call my dials my isp ok but does not get me on the web.  Is pppd up and running out of the box on 5.10?
[08:47] <pulaski> there is no /var/log/ppp either
[08:47] <force> dragoon: as root type; chmod +s `which ping`
[08:47] <dragoon> force: ok thanks alot :)
[08:47] <DrColossus> hi, i'm running ubuntu mostly as a server, but am not ready to totally give up the GUI just yet. what would be the best way to start gnome only when i need it? disable the gdm service? and if i then boot only to the console, how do i start the GUI?
[08:48] <ejofee> crimsun: would you please take a look at a pastebin post?
[08:48] <pulaski> ping, I recall, works for my normal user andy.
[08:48] <Ludens> drcolossus: how did you boot only to the console? i'm here to find that out :P
[08:49] <force> DrColossus: startx
[08:49] <grim1> hi how does one remove the nvidia-kernel module of an old drive to install a new module
[08:49] <DrColossus> Ludens: that's what i'd like to be able to do. persumably that can be accomplished by disabling the gdm service... or is there another way?
[08:50] <DrColossus> thank you force... and that will bring up the normal gnome welcome screen?
[08:50] <Ludens> no idea, i want to install something, but it requires the stand-alone console
[08:50] <Toba> hrm
[08:50] <force> DrColossus: it depends on how ~/.xinitrc file is configured, type this and it will; echo "exec gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[08:50] <Toba> this isn't looking too good
[08:51] <ejofee> crimsun: i guess you are busy
[08:51] <Toba> is it normal for some things to not work right wihle a dist-upgrade is going on?
[08:51] <Toba> or is that a problem?
[08:51] <Toba> glibc is acting up a bit...
[08:51] <ejofee> folks, can anybody please help me with this ?: http://pastebin.com/468769
[08:52] <DrColossus> thanks force. and disabling the gdm service, will this merely boot me to the console on startup, so that i may exec gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc if needed?
[08:52] <force> ejofee: what is /dev/ddd1? ls -l /dev/ddd1
[08:52] <DrColossus> +"
[08:52] <crimsun> I've never heard of ddd
[08:52] <ejofee> force: i handwrote it... i guess it actually was hdd1... (in fact i am pretty much sure)
[08:52] <force> DrColossus: yes, /etc/initrc also configures what run-level to start in
[08:53] <crimsun> ejofee: it's nearly 3 AM, and I'm trying to catch up with an e-mail backlog, so I'm not always responsive.
[08:53] <pulaski> Thanks all, cya
[08:53] <DrColossus> force: thank you for the help :)
[08:53] <ejofee> crimsun: i see... sorry for disturbin. will you have some time to follow the pastebin link?
[08:53] <force> np
[08:54] <force> ejofee: what major and minor is the device node
[08:54] <ejofee> force: sorry, i don't understand the question
[08:55] <crimsun> ejofee: judging from what grub says, you probably typoed /dev/hdb1
[08:55] <CaptainMorgan> how do I remove -x from every file recursively, excluding dir's ?
[08:55] <dragoon> chmod -x /dirname -R
[08:56] <ejofee> crimsun: yes, maybe... it's quite unusual for me to hand-write boot messages and then type them to pastebin :)
[08:56] <MrFarts> does anyone know where i can get xorg 6.9 for ubuntu ?
[08:56] <force> ejofee: if you type ls -l /dev/ddd1 (or whatever device you used) it will give two sets of numbers, what are the numbers you have used?
[08:56] <crimsun> MrFarts: 7.0RC is in Dapper
[08:57] <benplaut> where does gtk store config?
[08:57] <MrFarts> crimsun, can i install it on breezy ?
[08:57] <MrFarts> crimsun, if so what repo would i need to use ?
[08:57] <benplaut> ~/.gtkrc says to include a file that doesn't exist :/
[08:57] <crimsun> MrFarts: not directly from the repos. You'd need to compile it yourself. Why?
[08:57] <force> ejofee: grubs device numbering system is different to linux's, perhaps reading a grub howto would help?
[08:57] <MrFarts> crimsun, my card doesn't work well with 6.8
[08:58] <MrFarts> crimsun,  the situation may be better in 6.9 from what i have read
[08:58] <bz0b> has anyone heard of that motorola rokr phone?
[08:58] <CaptainMorgan> dragoon chmod -x dirname -R also includes the sub-dir's of dirname, which I do not want..
[08:58] <crimsun> MrFarts: then try a Dapper Flight 2 live cd
[08:58] <dragoon> oh - i thought you did
[08:58] <dragoon> mybad
[08:59] <MrFarts> crimsun, thanks, then what ? :)
[08:59] <crimsun> MrFarts: what?
[08:59] <MrFarts> crimsun,  i don't want to install a whole distribution based on experiemental software
[08:59] <crimsun> MrFarts: you're not installing anything. It's a live cd.
[08:59] <ejofee> crimsun, force: in fact, i think it's important for me to mention that i did nothing to grub manually... everything was setup automatically by ubuntu (on ubuntu install) and that i installed grub on a partition, not on the mbr. (does this help?)
[08:59] <MrFarts> i would like just the X server basically
[08:59] <CaptainMorgan> dragoon. no problem... how do I exclude the sub's ?
[08:59] <MrFarts> crimsun, well if it works on the live cd, then what ?
[09:00] <force> ejofee: theres the problem ;)
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan> or is it not possible using -r ?
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan> -R
[09:00] <crimsun> MrFarts: then compile it yourself
[09:00] <ejofee> force: where?
[09:00] <dragoon> CaptainMorgan: without -R it shouldnt do subs
[09:00] <force> ejofee: install on the MBR
[09:00] <MrFarts> crimsun, that's a royal pain
[09:00] <MrFarts> especiallly given that thekernel sources debian uses are not standard
[09:00] <crimsun> MrFarts: so is running Dapper. Pick your poison.
[09:00] <dooglus> I just upgraded to dapper.  it seems a lot faster than breezy.  is that a result of the newer x.org?  or is it just my imagination?
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan> dragoon... eh.. it does.. after that command i can't access the subs.. until I chmod them +x
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan> weird..
[09:00] <ejofee> force: if grub can only be installed on the mbr, then why does ubuntu / grub offer me the option?
[09:01] <crimsun> dooglus: newer $lotsOfThings
[09:01] <dragoon> mmm
[09:01] <dragoon> wierd...
[09:01] <jenda> dooglus: maybe time slowed down
[09:01] <MrFarts> crimsun, it would be nice if someone had some debs for the server and kernel modules :(
[09:01] <force> ejofee: i'm not sure sorry
[09:01] <dooglus> crimsun: newer usually means bigger and slower in my experience
[09:01] <ejofee> force: then are you sure *this* is the problem? (not having it installed on the mbr)
[09:01] <force> ejofee: yes.
[09:01] <crimsun> dooglus: take it however you wish to, then.
[09:02] <CaptainMorgan> without -R it only does the dir... no recursive action taken
[09:03] <Sly> quick question
[09:03] <Sly> what is it that makes ubuntu better than fedora core
[09:03] <Sly> ?
[09:03] <ejofee> crimsun: any opinion (on what i mentioned in addition), please?
[09:03] <MrFarts> when is dapper supposed to be stable
[09:03] <jenda> Sly: the spirit
[09:03] <bz0b> what does the unregged mean?
[09:03] <MrFarts> for that matter when is X.org supposed to hit 7.0 ? :)
[09:03] <Sly> care to elaborate?
[09:03] <crimsun> MrFarts: 7.0 goes live in Jan
[09:03] <bz0b> in the #ubuntu-unregged
[09:03] <DrColossus> force: /etc/initrc does not exist. would it be /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?
[09:03] <MrFarts> crimsun, and dapper ?
[09:03] <bz0b> when is dapper-drake going to be released?
[09:04] <crimsun> MrFarts: we release 6.04 in April 2006, surprisingly enough.
[09:04] <crimsun> year.month
[09:04] <ejofee> force: how do i install it on the mbr? any easy hint? tell me the config file responsible for this, please
[09:04] <force> DrColossus: sorry /etc/inittab
[09:04] <crimsun> ejofee: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:04] <DrColossus> force: k, thanks :)
[09:04] <MrFarts> crimsun, i don't know when 5.10 was released :)
[09:04] <ejofee> crimsun: thank you
[09:04] <bz0b> it was released in october
[09:04] <MrFarts> crimsun, and i didn't know that 6.04 is the next release
[09:05] <crimsun> MrFarts: release every 6 months.
[09:05] <bz0b> so its 6.04 then 6.10
[09:05] <jenda> Sly: Ubuntu aims to be available around the world, free and in the local language. It aims to be easy to use, yet powerful and customisable...
[09:05] <bz0b> so there isnt any 7.0
[09:05] <bz0b> it will be 7.04
[09:05] <bz0b> right?
[09:05] <crimsun> bz0b: 7.0 refers to X.Org
[09:05] <bz0b> oh
[09:05] <ejofee> crimsun: is there any way to make grub boot also when installed on a partition (instead of on the mbr)?
[09:05] <mcquillg_> Hi all.
[09:05] <crimsun> ejofee: sure, a Web search will help
[09:05] <jenda> Sly: And technically, it has great HW support, an easy to use installer, and quite quick...
[09:06] <bz0b> ah, i see
[09:06] <mcquillg_> Does anyone in here have much experience with Wifi in Ubuntu?
[09:06] <crimsun> mcquillg_: what sort?
[09:06] <bz0b> all i know is my card works great
[09:06] <MrFarts> crimsun, how stable is the current dapper ?
[09:06] <ejofee> crimsun: so there actually *are* some known issues with this, right? (i just want to make sure i am not... alone in this)
[09:06] <bz0b> if you have money to spend, go out and get a netgear wg511t
[09:06] <crimsun> ejofee: grub is not my forte, and I don't feel like misleading you at 3 AM.
[09:06] <MrFarts> maybe i'll just suck it up and spend $30 to get a supported video card
[09:07] <force> ejofee: i think it depends on how hold your machine/bios is, most bootloaders require the second stage bootloader in the first 512 bytes of the disk
[09:07] <ejofee> crimsun: heh, right.,
[09:07] <force> old*
[09:07] <ejofee> crimsun: heh, right.
[09:07] <MrFarts> although what i have right now is supposed to work
[09:07] <MrFarts> even 2d is damn slow
[09:07] <Necrosan> MrFarts: what video card?
[09:07] <bz0b> will my ati radeon 7000 work?
[09:07] <MrFarts> Necrosan, ati radeon 7000
[09:07] <ejofee> force: lilo seems to be much less picky
[09:07] <rohan> hi all
[09:07] <Necrosan> uh
[09:07] <Necrosan> that card IS supported
[09:07] <bz0b> MrFarts, hehe, that's was i got
[09:07] <dragoon> fglrx doesnt work with a Radeon 7000
[09:07] <mcquillg_> crimsun, I have a ThinkPad T23 with Orinoco/Prism 2.5 wifi card built in. While it seems to have the right driver (i.e. Device manager matches dmsg), I can't get it to scan for networks.
[09:07] <Necrosan> you need to learn to google
[09:07] <MrFarts> Necrosan, it's slow as molasses
[09:07] <Necrosan> ah
[09:07] <dragoon> fglrx dpoes 8500 and up
[09:07] <dragoon> does*
[09:08] <bz0b> dragoon, i know, i hate that shit
[09:08] <Necrosan> Why not 7000 too?
[09:08] <rohan> whenever i use screen to run irssi, it tells me, "Cannot write to /var/utmp - No such process" i dont experience any errors, though.
[09:08] <Necrosan> And the 7000 is a pretty horrible card from the start, correct?
[09:08] <CaptainMorgan> dragoon chmod -x *.* excludes dir's :)
[09:08] <mcquillg_> crimsun, any ideas?
[09:08] <crimsun> mcquillg_: have you searched the hardware pages on the wiki?
[09:08] <bz0b> but my graphics still look better on ubuntu then they do on widnows, without true drivers
[09:08] <MrFarts> Necrosan, i dunno.. it was cheap, supported dvi, and was supposedly supported by X.org
[09:08] <MrFarts> Necrosan, i had cards that felt faster in 1999 though
[09:08] <Necrosan> MrFarts: It is supported by X.org.
[09:09] <dragoon> CaptainMorgan: ah - so simple.... its 18:40 here... only just woke up a short time ago.... bit hungover from a party lastnight - not really thinking too well
[09:09] <MrFarts> Necrosan, it's *slooooooooooow*
[09:09] <MrFarts> Necrosan, i get trails when i do opaque move
[09:09] <dell500> anyone know how to adjust the bootloader to get windows to work?
[09:09] <MrFarts> Necrosan, it's annoying :)
[09:09] <Necrosan> MrFarts: That's what you get when you're cheap. I'd go with a newer nVidia card.
[09:09] <ejofee> force: how do i apply changes after i modify the grub config file?
[09:09] <force> ejofee: this is related to redhat, but its relevant http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-grub.html
[09:09] <ejofee> force: thanks a lot
[09:09] <MrFarts> Necrosan, recommendation ?
[09:09] <Necrosan> I actually installed a Radeon 9250 in my friends machine, was a dream getting to work in ubuntu
[09:09] <sethk> dell500, yes, plus there howto
[09:09] <Necrosan> Only ran him about $90 too.
[09:10] <rikai> well now, this is interesting, ubuntu says i have version "1.0.1" of oRPC instaled in synaptic... but i was poking through header files.... and it says it's version 0.7.0, which'd definitly explain that error i was getting earlier... seems like it's using the version of libphone, not liborpt...
[09:10] <mcquillg_> crimsun, I have, but I might check again. My search there lead me to bugzilla -- where I didn't find anything helpful.
[09:10] <MrFarts> Necrosan, 9250 agp or pci ?
[09:10] <Necrosan> AGP
[09:10] <rikai> where would i report this?
[09:10] <Necrosan> there was a PCI version too
[09:10] <MrFarts> i have a pci version lying around
[09:10] <force> ejofee: yeah man grub-install ;)
[09:10] <Necrosan> put it in and install fglrx, you wont regret it
[09:10] <MrFarts> Necrosan, the pci version ?
[09:10] <ejofee> force: thanks :) hope it's as straightforward as lilo... just changing the config file and then running lilo..
[09:11] <CaptainMorgan> dragoon - no need to explain yerself :) just shouting out the command in case you wanted to know ;)
[09:11] <DRAGON_Ultra> use ATI only here
[09:11] <dell500> sethk:  what's the link? :)
[09:11] <bz0b> i want any ati agp 9000 or up so that i can use the fglrx drivers
[09:11] <bz0b> i hear they actually get the 3d support
[09:11] <Necrosan> MrFarts: itll beat the hell out of the 7000, thats for sure
[09:12] <MrFarts> Necrosan, well is the pci version supported or just agp ?
[09:12] <dell500> ya, i've got 3d accel working with my 9600xt
[09:12] <dell500> but i can't get steam to work properly
[09:12] <rikai> er... anyone?
[09:12] <Necrosan> MrFarts: Both are.
[09:12] <Necrosan> You don't really need to consider what bus it's on.
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> .exe's are not executable in Unix.. are they ?
[09:13] <MrFarts> CaptainMorgan, they could be :)
[09:14] <MrFarts> CaptainMorgan, if it's a unix executable with the extension ".exe"
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> program.exe at the command liine?
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> sorry.. nah.. it was developed in W
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> in
[09:14] <MrFarts> although it's not a common name for unix executables :)
[09:14] <Necrosan> g'night people
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> so that would make sense..
[09:14] <MrFarts> CaptainMorgan, you may be able to run it under wine
[09:14] <MrFarts> CaptainMorgan, or vmware
[09:14] <jenda> CaptainMorgan: wine program.exe
[09:14] <force> CaptainMorgan: Wine can run portable executables (.exe)
[09:14] <MrFarts> not all of them :)
[09:15] <rikai> ehm fine, i wont bother reporting a possibly important package error... :/
[09:15] <mcquillg_> crimsun, Yeah, I'm not really finding anything about this issue in the hardware wiki.
[09:15] <MrFarts> gforce mx 4000 ?
[09:16] <MrFarts> does this work well under x.org ?
[09:16] <rohan> hi all
[09:16] <rohan> this is exactly the problem i have --
[09:16] <rohan> Could not write /var/run/utmp: No such process
[09:16] <rohan> http://www.nabble.com/Re:-w-stopped-working--p1902712.html
[09:16] <MrFarts> or fx5200 ?
[09:16] <MrFarts> anyone ? :)
[09:17] <odat> hi everyone
[09:17] <odat> anyone running dapper?
[09:17] <bz0b> not me
[09:17] <bz0b> how can i be?
[09:17] <rohan> 13:47 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You do not have channel operator access to [#easybreezy] 
[09:18] <bz0b> do i just update apt/sources.list and do a apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:18] <odat> bz0b,  yea
[09:18] <TTT_Travis> I am trying to create a folder in every home directory on my computer is that possible?
[09:18] <crimsun> don't run Dapper unless you are prepared for breakage
[09:18] <TTT_Travis> whats dapper?
[09:18] <bz0b> odat, will my video card work?
[09:18] <crimsun> mcquillg_: sec
[09:18] <bz0b> ati radeon 7000
[09:19] <odat> crimsun, very true i had to use the old video driver vesa to get on since the nvidia drivers don't work
[09:19] <force> TTT_Travis: for i in `ls /home`; do mkdir -p /home/$i/foo; done
[09:19] <TTilus> bz0b: define "work"
[09:19] <MrFarts> bz0b, define "work"
[09:19] <odat> bz0b, i've read they are working fine but no guarantee
[09:19] <MrFarts> TTilus, :)
[09:19] <mcquillg_> crimsun, thanks. I'm still fishing around for some info.
[09:19] <TTilus> MrFarts: lol
[09:20] <bz0b> TTilus, MrFarts, odat, after rebooting, after upgrading, will i have grafix ?
[09:20] <odat> tell ya what though gnome and firefox are really quick
[09:20] <MrFarts> bz0b, yes
[09:20] <TTilus> bz0b: its very very likely
[09:20] <bz0b> k
[09:20] <MrFarts> bz0b, but they probably won't be very fast
[09:20] <odat> MrFarts, do you have a nvidia card?
[09:20] <MrFarts> no, i have a radeon 7000
[09:20] <TTT_Travis> force what was that command again?
[09:21] <TTilus> bz0b: however it is somewhat less likely that they are as fast as your hw can make it
[09:21] <binks> lo all anyone good with printer setup plz
[09:21] <TTilus> binks: how good do you need?
[09:21] <mcquillg_> crimsun, for instance, when I run wifieth0      Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported
[09:21] <mcquillg_> -radar from the terminal it says:
[09:21] <TTilus> binks: just tell us the problem you have
[09:21] <binks> how do i install the gutenprint driver i did ./configure make make install but then what
[09:21] <sethk> binks, which video card?
[09:22] <binks> i have ati
[09:22] <binks> why
[09:22] <dell500> how do you get windows to be recognized by the bootload?
[09:22] <mcquillg_> wait, sorry I pasted into the middle of the sentence. Stupid eraser-nub mouse.
[09:22] <crimsun> mcquillg_: I presume you're using orinoco, then?
[09:22] <mcquillg_> Right.
[09:23] <mcquillg_> It picks up SSIDs of WAPs, but not their MAC addresses, and it doesn't do a DHCP request...
[09:23] <TTilus> sethk: did you mean to bz0b, not binks?
[09:23] <crimsun> mcquillg_: tried hostap instead?
[09:23] <mcquillg_> No. What's that?
[09:23] <factotum> anyone know if the multimedia plugins for firefox, from running the automatix package, will cause firefox to close when doing a right-click save as?
[09:23] <rikai> where would i report errors in an ubuntu packages version?
[09:23] <crimsun> mcquillg_: another driver for that chipset with more features
[09:23] <crimsun> mcquillg_: you can try thinkwiki.org for more tips
[09:23] <force> rikai: contact the package manager
[09:24] <crimsun> sorry, but it's bed time for me
[09:24] <mcquillg_> crimsun, excellent. I hadn't even heard of that. Thank you.
[09:24] <benplaut> can someone check a gtkrc for me to see if it's valid?
[09:24] <rikai> force, alright.
[09:24] <cicada> anyone suggest a good text editor of HTML
[09:25] <TTilus> binks: are you trying to tell me you aren't installing deb gimp-print, but tar downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/gutenprint/ ?
[09:25] <force> rikai: each package has a unique major, its usually documented in the package information somewhere :/
[09:25] <TTilus> cicada: emacs
[09:25] <binks> yes as i need support to print to cds
[09:25] <rikai> force, hm? could you explain what you mean?
[09:25] <force> manager rather, im getting tired
[09:25] <binks> ie select media type vdr
[09:25] <bz0b> odat, does universe already work in drapper?
[09:25] <TTilus> cicada: do you want to have _text_editor_ or wysiwyg html editor?
[09:25] <binks> cdr
[09:26] <Corrupter> when i try to start up Audacity i get an i/o layer error in my sound card, does anyone know what to do?
[09:26] <MrFarts> what am i going to lose by running a graphics card under the pci bus instead of udner agp ?
[09:26] <cicada> actually looking for a text editor... but are there any decent/slim wysiwyg editors for linux
[09:26] <MrFarts> cicada, what does wywiwyg mean in terms of  atext editor ?
[09:27] <bz0b> anyone here running drapper?
[09:27] <force> rikai: for example, the package foo-1.1.deb might have a package manager of foo@bar.com, and it is usually documented either on the package information, you can check this using dpkg, or on the web somewhere
[09:27] <sethk> MrFarts, what you see is what you gt.
[09:27] <cicada> What You See IS What You Get..... AKA you can edit the html page the way it looks in a browser
[09:27] <MrFarts> sethk, i realize that
[09:27] <MrFarts> but what does it mean for a *text* editor
[09:28] <MrFarts> cicada, that's not a text editor, that's an html editor
[09:28] <TTilus> binks: mm, is it out of question to grab deb sources and patch the modifications and build new package?
[09:28] <Corrupter> does anyone know how to fix my problem>?
[09:28] <cicada> yes....    well nobody said that WYSIWYG was a text editor
[09:29] <bz0b> TTilus, you running drapper?
[09:29] <MrFarts> cicada, there are some tools that approach this, although it's basically impossible with modern html
[09:29] <rikai> force, alrighty, thank you.
[09:29] <binks> ttilus you lost me there sorry the make make install went fine just dont no what to do now as the driver isnt in the list
[09:29] <cicada> agree.....
[09:29] <TTilus> bz0b: no
[09:29] <DrColossus> force: any idea how to change the default run level so gnome does not start by default? disabling the gdm service seems to have no effect, it doesn't stick...
[09:29] <bz0b> is it dapper or drapper?
[09:29] <MrFarts> cicada,  i would just use a good structural editor
[09:29] <dragoon> how would i get a Cannon MP130 printer working in Ubuntu, there is no drivers for ir
[09:30] <dragoon> it
[09:30] <MrFarts> cicada, but then again, i'm not a web developer
[09:30] <dragoon> DrColossus: in /etc/inittab
[09:30] <Tuntis> urgh
[09:30] <Tuntis> The wiki entry for Palm devices sucks
[09:30] <TTilus> binks: ah, ok
[09:30] <Tuntis> I use an IIIc
[09:30] <exarkun> I think evms is crashing my Breezy machine once or twice a day.  What should I do about this?
[09:30] <AMCDeathKnight> I just got ssh but now it fails to start
[09:31] <AMCDeathKnight> nm
[09:31] <AMCDeathKnight> lol
[09:31] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get it to automaticlly start when I boot?
[09:31] <revmoo> hey im trying to ./configure an app and its telling me that gtk is not installed even though i have libgtk2 and -dev installed and -common
[09:31] <dell500> how do you find out what partitions are available to mount/umount?
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> having trouble getting w32 codecs...
[09:31] <DrColossus> dragoon: yes, but i'm trying to figure what changes to make to etc/inittab
[09:31] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell CaptainMorgan about w32codecs
[09:31] <force> DrColossus: id:2:initdefault:
[09:31] <force> DrColossus: the 2 represents the run level
[09:31] <dragoon> /etc/rc0.d etc are your runlevels
[09:31] <bz0b> yay
[09:32] <bz0b> i am upgrading to drapper
[09:32] <dragoon> just check for one that doesnt have gdm in it
[09:32] <dragoon> bz0b: how are you doing that ?
[09:32] <TTilus> dell500: what would you like to mount?
[09:32] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get SSH to automaticlly start when I boot?
[09:32] <force> DrColossus: 0 is halt, 1 is single user mode, 2-5 are multi-user, and 6 is reboot
[09:32] <dell500> TTilus:  winbloze
[09:32] <revmoo> hey im trying to ./configure an app and its telling me that gtk is not installed even though i have libgtk2 and -dev & -common installed, any ideas on what i could be missing? its for projectm(milkdrop for xmms)
[09:32] <TTilus> dell500: block devices are usually /dev/...
[09:32] <dell500> i need to get it to mount on grub
[09:32] <TTilus> dell500: ide, sata or scsi disk?
[09:32] <dell500> i know it's on hdaX
[09:32] <dell500> ide
[09:32] <cicada> um... I'm a bit confused... been getting this form synaptic W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[09:32] <DrColossus> thank you force, dragoon
[09:32] <force> AMCDeathKnight: install the init script link, using update-rc.d
[09:32] <bz0b> dragoon, very easy, go into your /etc/apt/sources.list and change every instance of breezy to dapper, maybe do a sed one liner, and change them all
[09:32] <dell500> accually might be hdb1
[09:33] <binks> ttilus point me to some docs to tell me howto build a deb package and ill have a go :)
[09:33] <bz0b> then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:33] <dragoon> ok
[09:33] <TTilus> dell500: what is your partition conf on that disk?
[09:33] <dragoon> bz0b: any ideas how stable it is ?
[09:33] <cicada> My synaptic can't seem to connect to repositories
[09:33] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get SSH to automaticlly start when I boot? In a walkthrough please
[09:33] <dell500> TTilus:  honestly, i'm not sure
[09:33] <cicada> The following problems were found on your system:
[09:33] <dell500> TTilus:  i'm just trying to get the choice of Winbloze on grub at the start
[09:33] <robotgeek> binks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[09:34] <TTilus> dell500: /dev/hdaX = master, /dev/hdbX slave
[09:34] <dragoon> ok... updating to dapper
[09:34] <force> AMCDeathKnight: man update-rc.d
[09:34] <dell500> slave then
[09:34] <TTilus> (on first adapter)
[09:34] <AMCDeathKnight> I dont want to read the manual
[09:34] <dell500> can you even boot windows off of slave with ubuntu being on master?
[09:34] <AMCDeathKnight> That is why I am here
[09:34] <dell500> lol
[09:35] <TTilus> dell500: why not?
[09:35] <force> hah, then rethink about your OS choice ;)
[09:35] <binks> cheers robotgeek
[09:35] <jhina1> is there a password for the account ROOT or is it un avalible
[09:35] <dell500> TTilus:  just wondering
[09:35] <AMCDeathKnight> Rethink the people I ask not the OS
[09:35] <TTilus> dell500: did you have one single partition (drive) on windoze?
[09:35] <dell500> TTilus: windoze is on a seperate physical drive
[09:35] <force> jhina1: use su
[09:35] <dell500> most likely slave
[09:36] <dell500> while my 120gb is being used for ubuntu, hda1
[09:36] <force> jhina1: sudo passwd root
[09:36] <dragoon> a whole 528mb of downloads
[09:36] <TTilus> dell500: when you _were_ on windows did you see only C or were there also more drives?
[09:36] <jhina1> ok also is there known compatiblity issues with win xp?
[09:36] <ananda> jhinal: $ sudo su -
[09:36] <revmoo> hey im trying to ./configure an app and its telling me that gtk is not installed even though i have libgtk2 and -dev & -common installed, any ideas on what i could be missing? its for projectm(milkdrop for xmms)
[09:38] <TTilus> dell500: would you pastebin `ls /dev/hd*` and `cat /etc/fstab`
[09:38] <caroline> Do I have to download something special to play mp3s?
[09:39] <TTilus> dell500: i.e. http://pastebin.com/
[09:39] <dell500> TTilus: i unhooked the ubuntu drive, then installed winbloze
[09:39] <dell500> there isn't anything in there that would help
[09:39] <dell500> i know that winbloze is /dev/hdbX
[09:39] <TTilus> dell500: ah, ok
[09:39] <ananda> caroline: read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:39] <dragoon> dell500: get a linux live cd, chroot your ubuntu drive and install grbu
[09:39] <dell500> getting grub to recognize the correct partition/drive is what i need
[09:39] <dragoon> grub
[09:39] <TTilus> ok, then `ls /dev/hdb*`
[09:39] <dell500> ah ha, i think that's what i had to do before
[09:40] <dell500> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ??
[09:40] <TTilus> dell500: mm, you could try to mount all of /dev/hdb* one by one
[09:40] <TTilus> dell500: see what is in them
[09:41] <TTilus> dell500: then you'll know
[09:41] <exarkun> `fdisk -l /dev/hdb' would probably be quicker
[09:41] <TTilus> dell500: fs autodetect works well enough
[09:41] <TTilus> exarkun: you are very much right  :)
[09:42] <dell500> i think i found it
[09:42] <TTilus> dell500: good
[09:42] <dell500> TTilus: /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:42] <TTilus> dell500: you mean grub conf?
[09:42] <dell500> ya
[09:42] <dragoon> well... im 2.5 hours ill be running Dapper
[09:42] <dell500> if i add the entries in, it should load, correct?
[09:43] <dragoon> too bad i only have 512k ADSL :(
[09:43] <jenda> in 4 months... I'll be running Dapper.
[09:43] <TTilus> dell500: yes, i think, dont really know
[09:43] <TTilus> dell500: man grup points default config to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:44] <jhina1> so the lunix shell cant understand FAT32 or NTFS file system formats
[09:44] <TTilus> dell500: and the rest you need to know is in /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/ i think
[09:44] <force> jhina1: with the correct modules, yes, it can.
[09:44] <jhina1> how would i do this
[09:44] <TTilus> jhina1: shell?
[09:45] <force> jhina1: i recommend you read a kernel complation howto
[09:45] <TTilus> jhina1: it is not a job of a shell, but file system modules
[09:45] <ananda> jhinal: what do you mean?
[09:45] <exarkun> EVMS crashes on Breezy.  Anyone know anything about them?
[09:45] <TTilus> jhina1: FAT32 is builtin (called vfat), but i dont know of NTFS
[09:45] <ananda> jhinal: are you trying to mount your fat/ntfs drive??
[09:45] <jhina1> i would like to allow the Lunix OS to read FAT32 and NTFS sytems
[09:46] <force> jhina1: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:46] <TTilus> jhina1: however NTFS is readonly in every case, so
[09:46] <ananda> jhinal: it's easy..
[09:46] <ice_1963> #nicksetup
[09:46] <ananda> jhinal: $ fdisk -l <enter>
[09:46] <jenda_very_busy> jhinal: there are experimental ways of writing to NTFS - you can do a google, but be careful - and backup your data
[09:47] <jhina1> ok i will open up a shell or do i need to?
[09:47] <ananda> jhina so you could see your fat32/ntfs drive which you want to mount
[09:47] <TTilus> jenda_very_busy: thats what i mean, for practical purposes readonly :)
[09:47] <jhina1> or world i need to open up the terminal
[09:47] <force> jhina1: perhaps an introduction to linux guide would be more suitable
[09:47] <ananda> jhinal: yes, u should open a terminal
[09:48] <jenda_very_busy> TTilus: I dunno, I thought it was already quite usable (I don't have any NTFSs around...)
[09:48] <ananda> jhinal: and then type "fdisk -l" at the prompt
[09:48] <The_JinJ> Hi all :) Does anyone know any userspace encryption that will run in a chroot environment?
[09:48] <TTilus> jhina1: maybe $ sudo fdisk -l
[09:49] <spanglesontoast> is there a eciadsl for ubuntu
[09:49] <spanglesontoast> or should I just alien the rpm?
[09:49] <force> The_JinJ: it wont be all that secure if its in a chroot environment for a start
[09:50] <jhina1> it asks for a password
[09:50] <The_JinJ> force: how come
[09:50] <jhina1> for command sudo fdisk -l
[09:50] <ananda> jhinal: type ur password
[09:50] <TTilus> jhina1: of course it does
[09:50] <TTilus> jhina1: now you go and read new user tutorial and then continua
[09:50] <force> The_JinJ: you get better pseudo numbers with root access because you have access to more entropy from kernel based interrupts
[09:50] <TTilus> jhina1: i mean really, it does very much good for you
[09:51] <The_JinJ> force: To setup the encryption cypher?
[09:51] <ananda> jhinal: r u done with "fdisk -l"?? what do see then??
[09:51] <windowmaker> how do i view .wmv files?
[09:51] <force> The_JinJ: at a lower level than the cipher.
[09:52] <jhina1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:52] <jhina1> /dev/sda1   *           1         921      117872    b  W95 FAT32
[09:52] <TTilus> ananda: i think jhina1 should really be doing tutor now, not mounting  :)
[09:52] <TTilus> jhina1: you have sata-disk
[09:52] <force> The_JinJ: you _could_ do it, but ideally anything requiring encryption wouldn't be in a chroot environment
[09:52] <onkarshinde> any chance that gaim 2 beta1 will be available in deb package?
[09:52] <Vale> hey
[09:52] <force> The_JinJ: and even if you did do it, it would be pointless because its less secure if its dynamically generated within the chrooted environment
[09:52] <TTilus> jhina1: then sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:52] <windowmaker> onkarshinde: most likely
[09:53] <windowmaker> how do i view .wmv files?
[09:53] <Vale> i have problem whit mail
[09:53] <force> The_JinJ: if the file was encrypted before you put it in the chroot environment, then yes, it would be _secure_
[09:53] <The_JinJ> force: I see your point
[09:53] <onkarshinde> windowmaker, any chance that it will be in official repos for breezy?
[09:53] <ananda> jhinal: if u want to know more about "mount", type "man mount" at ur shell prompt
[09:53] <TTilus> jhina1: mount is a program you use to attach disks (block devices) to you directory structure
[09:53] <windowmaker> onkarshinde: not sure, maybe not but if it comes out soon it should be, or maybe for the next version of ubuntu
[09:54] <TTilus> jhina1: that particular command tells mount to attach the filesystem of type vfat on device /dev/sda1 to /mnt
[09:54] <onkarshinde> windowmaker, gaim 2.0 beta is available
[09:54] <jhina1> the system asks for a password but will not allow me to enter one even just number all i can do is hit enter
[09:54] <TTilus> jhina1: so the widoze disk will appear under /mnt/
[09:55] <windowmaker> onkarshinde: oh, then it should come out in debian package soon.... why don't you jsut compile it yourself though?
[09:55] <ananda> jhina1: when u type a password, u can't see what u type,
[09:55] <TTilus> jhina1: you if you like it better elsewhere you can create dir yourself and replace /mnt/ with it
[09:55] <jhina1> yes
[09:56] <onkarshinde> windowmaker, I can compile. I was just hoping that if it comes in deb then I will replace 1.5.0 with it. Currently it will go in /usr/local
[09:56] <windowmaker> onkarshinde: you can always uninstall gaim 1.5
[09:56] <onkarshinde> windowmaker, yup I can. Just hoping that I don't mess up something
[09:57] <ananda> jhina1: if there is no error when mount ur drive, now u can access your drive at the mount point (/mnt)
[09:57] <TTilus> jhina1: if you like to mount it automatically on boot, you put respective conf to /etc/fstab
[09:57] <windowmaker> onkarshinde: removing gaim won't mess anything up, it's when you start removing things like "xserver-xorg" that things go psycho
[09:57] <onkarshinde> does anyone know how can I use SIP? Am I supposed to register somewhere?
[09:58] <snadge> what can i edit pdf files with? :P
[09:58] <windowmaker> how do i view .wmv files?
[09:58] <jenda_very_busy> windowmaker: you will need the codecs
[09:58] <dragoon> windowmaker: or you can use vlc
[09:58] <windowmaker> jenda_very_busy,  i already have them, but totem doesn't use them =(
[09:58] <windowmaker> jenda: vlc?
[09:59] <jenda_very_busy> then do "sudo apt-get install totem-xine"
[09:59] <jhina1> the passwords dont work at all i type my password even with it not displaying and it still says the password is incorrect
[09:59] <jenda_very_busy> or "sudo apt-get install vlc", if that's what you want
[09:59] <jenda_very_busy> jhina1: you must be typing it wrong
[10:00] <anandaputra> jhina1: it hink u miss something....
[10:00] <jenda_very_busy> jhina1: it's case sensitive, are you sure you do not have Capslock on?
[10:00] <jhina1> it worked
[10:00] <anandaputra> hi, kebanting...
[10:00] <kebanting> hi too anandaputra
[10:01] <jhina1> still cant read the contents of the hard disks
[10:01] <onkarshinde> How to use SIP? Can anyone tell me?
[10:01] <anandaputra> jhina1: is there any error msg?
[10:01] <mp3guy> is there any program that can give me more detailed info about harddisk space use? Like which folder is biggest etc..?
[10:02] <The_JinJ> df
[10:02] <The_JinJ> du
[10:02] <jhina1> no nothing is listed after where i put my password
[10:02] <odat> woohoooo got it fixed
[10:02] <onkarshinde> mp3guy, if you like java then use jdiskreport from www.jgoodies.com
[10:02] <The_JinJ> du -hc /
[10:02] <odat> drapper now using my nvidia card flawlessly
[10:02] <odat> damn its quick
[10:02] <jhina1> it just gose back to the terminal
[10:03] <TTilus> jhina1: now i think you REALLY should be doing linux tutorial
[10:03] <TTilus> jhina1: you mounted your disk to /mnt/
[10:03] <TTilus> jhina1: so cd /mnt/
[10:03] <TTilus> jhina1: or you could just $ nautilus /mnt/
[10:04] <anandaputra> jhina1: of course..
[10:04] <anandaputra> jhina1: now u can open your nautilus (file browser), then go to /mnt folder
[10:04] <TTilus> jhina1: "no nothing is listed" because you did not request anything to be listed, you just requested the disk to be attached to your fstree
[10:05] <jhina1> i have minimal expiriance with lunix as i work for a company that has no lunix systems this is my frist lunix based pc(dual os)
[10:05] <anandaputra> jhina1: u'll see file over there
[10:05] <mp3guy> onkarshinde, thanks, looks good
[10:05] <TTilus> jhina1: it is Linux (or more accurately GNU/Linux), not lunix
[10:05] <factotum> if i want to attach a scanner by usb, am i going to have to reboot the system or log out, anything like that?
[10:05] <anandaputra> jhina1: it's ok..
[10:05] <TTilus> factotum: no
[10:06] <factotum> oh great, then i think im gonna give this hp scanner a shot here quick
[10:06] <onkarshinde> factotum: no. USB devices are hot pluggable
[10:07] <chuckw> Dapper seems to work good.
[10:07] <TTilus> jhina1: http://www.de.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/
[10:07] <holycow> factotum, the only reason for a reboot on linux is a kernel update
[10:08] <Myrtti> or sleeping next to the machine ;-)
[10:08] <Myrtti> and even that you can get used to
[10:08] <windowmaker> jenda_very_busy, i got the VLC player you told me about, it plays sound fo the clips but i can't see any video output
[10:08] <holycow> Myrtti, heh
[10:08] <Myrtti> (we've got three computers in our bedroom, only the silent passivly cooled server is on always)
[10:09] <jenda_very_busy> windowmaker: hmm... that happened to me too... but I still don't know how to solve it. Did you try totem-xine? Or even better: mplayer
[10:09] <jhina1> the file browser is blank
[10:09] <jenda_very_busy> windowmaker: what processor do you have?
[10:10] <TTilus> jhina1: what path are you looking at
[10:10] <chuckw> Can you tell me one thing that will help me get DVDs playing?
[10:10] <windowmaker> jenda_very_busy, Intel Celeron D 2.66ghz, i haven't tried totem-xine and mplayer always breaks when i try to install it
[10:10] <TTilus> jhina1: did you start it w $ nautilus /mnt/
[10:10] <windowmaker> jenda_very_busy, wait... CPU or GPU?
[10:10] <TTilus> jhina1: what does it tell "Location" is?
[10:10] <jenda_very_busy> windowmaker: Are you installing the right mplayer? (CPU)
[10:11] <ITSa341> Installed and running. No problems and it ALL works right from install.   NICE
[10:11] <jenda_very_busy> windowmaker: Is that a dual core?
[10:11] <anandaputra> jhina1: try "ls -l /" at terminal, then see the /mnt line
[10:11] <akumar> Hi all I need some help in enabling 3D in Ubuntu breezy.
[10:11] <grim1> akumar: what type of card problem
[10:11] <holycow> Myrtti, yeah i've tried a bunch of things its hard to not hear a spinning fand indeed
[10:11] <factotum> alright, so I plugged in the scanner and tried opening xsane but could find the scanner, it there more that I need to set up first?
[10:11] <akumar> I have an intel graphic card (some 915 or so)
[10:11] <windowmaker> jenda_very_busy, yes, i did use the right one for my cpu T__T, and it's single core
[10:12] <ITSa341> Can someone recommend an application to monitor temps and fan speeds ( replacement for CPUCool or MBM ) and a replacement for AMD PowerNow?
[10:12] <grim1> akumar: onboard
[10:12] <anandaputra> jhina1: see the /mnt access permission, like mine: drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  4096 2005-10-05 16:37 mnt
[10:12] <grim1> akumar: onboard i.e on mobo not agp pci-e card
[10:12] <TTilus> jhina1: please pastebin.com your $ mount
[10:12] <jenda_very_busy> windowmaker: And what breaks? (you can always use totem-xine, or xine-ui (which is better than totem IMO, but not alll people think so), but mplayer is better)
[10:12] <akumar> grim1 what's mobo?
[10:13] <windowmaker> jenda_very_busy, oh, totem-xine is working, nevermind
[10:13] <anandaputra> jhina1: could copy&paste it here?
[10:13] <TTilus> anandaputra: does not matter, mounting was done root
[10:13] <grim1> akumar: onboard i.e on motherboard not agp pci-e card
[10:13] <akumar> grim1 its onboard
[10:13] <grim1> akumar:  laptop
[10:13] <akumar> grim1 yeah
[10:13] <akumar> grim1 Dell Inspiron 6000
[10:13] <TTilus> anandaputra: $ mount should show if the /dev/sda1 is mounted or not
[10:14] <ZiX> guys, how to get wmii?
[10:14] <jhina1> hdb1 and hdb2 are the devs i am trying to use the other one witch i remoce(from the system is a USB device)
[10:14] <akumar> grim1 It says "boardname = 915GM)
[10:15] <jhina1> *removed
[10:15] <grim1> akumar:  so do you think it has a "ATI Radeon Mobility M300" chip on it
[10:15] <ravi> hi
[10:15] <grim1> have you got a gui
[10:15] <akumar> grim1 No it's a plain, simple graphics card. ATI is not there
[10:15] <ZiX> guys?
[10:15] <ZiX> how to get WMII? :p
[10:16] <TTilus> jhina1: please pastebin.com your $ mount
[10:16] <dingdong> hi
[10:16] <kebanting> yes zix ..
[10:16] <ZiX> hi :p
[10:16] <grim1> akumar:  have you got a graphical desktop
[10:16] <akumar> grim1 yes I am running gnome
[10:16] <TTilus> jhina1: usb storage devices are visible as /dev/sdX
[10:17] <jhina1> bash: pastebin.com: command not found
[10:17] <grim1> akumar:  have you got a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 GM
[10:17] <jhina1> i took it out of the usb port
[10:17] <TTilus> jhina1: what does nautilus tell "Location" is?
[10:17] <akumar> grim1 my xorg.conf says it's "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card"
[10:18] <jhina1> it says / as location
[10:18] <jhina1> (the root)
[10:18] <TTilus> jhina1: go mnt
[10:18] <grim1> akumar:  I'm having a look into it but I don't think your going to have 3D driver support do you need it??
[10:19] <TTilus> jhina1: you have your disk at /mnt/ go there
[10:19] <akumar> grim1 I want to play diablo on Ubuntu, so that I can get rid of windows. Ido need 3d
[10:19] <grim1> akumar:  you also need a chipset that supports 3d :P
[10:20] <TTilus> jhina1: also try $ sudo ls /mnt/
[10:20] <akumar> grim1 but I am able to run diablo under windows perfectly! why not under ubuntu?
[10:21] <kebanting> guys, i've missing list ESSID name from network configuratio after install linux-wlan-ng and hostapd?
[10:21] <grim1> akumar: so  you have 3d then I'm trying to find the specs of the chip at the moment so I can direct you to a howto or something
[10:22] <jhina1> i entered the full defalt root volume folder(system root /)
[10:22] <grim1> akumar: what does windows call the chip
[10:22] <TTilus> jhina1: i gotta go, you REALLY should read http://www.de.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ or like
[10:22] <jhina1> k
[10:22] <akumar> grim1 I don't remember what does windows call that chip. Lemme look into my laptop invoice :P
[10:22] <TTilus> jhina1: in nautilus double click "mnt"
[10:22] <nomin> has anyone had sound problems with ubuntu breezy?  I installed ubuntu for the first time a couple days and sound worked fine from the start.  I had to reinstall ubuntu today because I have triple boot and it messed up.  Now I get sound effects but no music.  I don't understand why.
[10:22] <TTilus> jhina1: in console $ sudo ls /mnt/
[10:23] <akumar> grim1: 	Integrated Intel Media Accelerator 900 Graphics
[10:23] <nomin> the music doesn't work on pp racer and I can't play shoutcast at all
[10:23] <anandaputra> nomin: may be your speaker is mute
[10:23] <dingdong> I came across this nice site which lists the top 10 ubuntu sites on the net. It is at http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com
[10:23] <TTilus> jhina1: or in nautilus you could also write /mnt to location and press [enter] 
[10:23] <nomin> anandaputra, the sound effects for ubuntu work
[10:24] <TTilus> jhina1: and do PLEASE pastebin.com $ sudo mount
[10:24] <grim1> akumar: ok hangon
[10:24] <TTilus> jhina1: and paste link here
[10:24] <TTilus> jhina1: that will show what do you have mounted
[10:24] <dingdong> The exact webpage is ... let me see... http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/10-most-popular-ubuntu-sites-on-net.html
[10:24] <akumar> someone plese tell me how to use Xchat? I'm new here
[10:24] <TTilus> jhina1: and where, and how
[10:24] <runevi> from dmesg: "[4414784.488000]  ata2: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[10:24] <dingdong> akumar, you are using it.
[10:25] <runevi> [4414784.488000]  ata2: called with no error (51)!
[10:25] <runevi> "
[10:25] <runevi> I get loads of these.
[10:25] <akumar> can I pm others?
[10:25] <ITSa341> Can someone recommend an application to monitor temps and fan speeds ( replacement for CPUCool or MBM ) and a replacement for AMD PowerNow?
[10:25] <ITSa341> I'm running an eMachine 5305 and they have a tendency to overheat when running at full cpu speed. Need to implement either cpu speed switching or at least temp monitoring.
[10:25] <runevi> ITSa341: sensors
[10:25] <grim1> akumar: have a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102502&highlight=Dell+Inspiron+6000+graphics
[10:25] <ITSa341> ty
[10:25] <TTilus> akumar: xchat help?
[10:25] <runevi> ITSa341: sudo apt-get install sensors, if i remember correctly :)
[10:26] <dingdong> akumar,  yes you can.
[10:26] <Myrtti> or lm-sensors
[10:26] <runevi> Myrtti: Ah, that it was.
[10:26] <nomin> akumar, just fill in the lines for what username you want, I usually have them all as nomin.  Then select freenode under channels.  When in freenode click windows then channel list.
[10:26] <runevi> ITSa341: lm-sensors, as Myrtti said.
[10:26] <ITSa341> I like this Distro. Everything just installed and worked right from the getgo
[10:26] <akumar> dingdong how do I pm someone? will they appear in red color?
[10:26] <dingdong> akumar, private messages from unregistered users are blocked
[10:26] <Myrtti> <3
[10:26] <runevi> ITSa341: then run sensors-detect, answer the questions (just press enter), and then type 'sensors' to see the ouput
[10:26] <dingdong> akumar, you have to register yourself first
[10:26] <akumar> ok I'll use this just as Yahoo chat! :D
[10:27] <ITSa341> cool, thanks
[10:27] <Madpilot> ITSa341: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[10:27] <runevi> Madpilot: Hm, maybe I'll RTFM too, not just answer the questions (i just did this three days ago ;)
[10:27] <grim1> akumar: ok thats a little off I'm getting closer though
[10:27] <dieffel> hello! How do I get WPA encryption working when I connect to my netgear router? Is WPA enc. surpported in Ubuntu 5.10, yet?
[10:28] <akumar> dieffel ubuntu supports wpa
[10:28] <mrkoje> dieffel,  you need to get the wpasupplicant  package
[10:28] <akumar> Dieffel you have to search in the repositories
[10:28] <runevi> Madpilot: I didn't need to do the mkdev.sh stuff.
[10:28] <akumar> doesn't xsupplicant do the same thing?
[10:28] <nomin> can someone tell me what command to type that tells me about my sound output?
[10:28] <Madpilot> runevi: neither did I, actually
[10:29] <mrkoje> nomin,  what type of output are you looking for?
[10:29] <dieffel> akumar, nice... but I still cant connect to my netgear router. Im using WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key), is that surpported by Ubuntu?
[10:29] <kevor> what's this xubuntu i'm reading when booting?
[10:29] <mrkoje> dieffel,  you need to have wpasupplicant
[10:30] <dieffel> akumar, ok i thourght is was an "out-of-the-box" solution :(
[10:30] <akumar> m akumar kdj;alsdkjf
[10:30] <nomin> no music plays, but system sound effects work.  (pp racer has no sound, shoutcast plays but i get no sound)  I'm trying to figure out what's causing this.
[10:30] <akumar> M akumar lsajd;ljf
[10:30] <dieffel> mrkoje, ok... ill try that. U know of any wiki/howto?
[10:30] <L1nuz> good morning
[10:31] <mrkoje> ubotu tell nomin about restrictedformats
[10:31] <L1nuz> there someone that can help me??
[10:31] <mrkoje> ubotu tell dieffel about wifi
[10:31] <Myrtti> ask the question and someone might answer to it
[10:31] <nomin> mrkoje, I just reinstalled ubuntu.  It was working fine 2 days ago from the start.
[10:32] <akumar> msg akumar lsajd;ljf
[10:32] <Myrtti> try the / before msg
[10:32] <L1nuz> i need a system monitor for my desktpo kde 3.5
[10:32] <mrkoje> nomin,  hmm no sound in pp racer... Im assuming thats the penguin game right?
[10:32] <nomin> yes
[10:33] <mrkoje> ubotu tell me about lspci
[10:33] <nomin> It was all working before I reinstalled ubuntu today.  I installed ubuntu for 1st time a few days ago.
[10:33] <grim1> akumar: ok http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html
[10:33] <Snellgrove> Hi Guys :)
[10:33] <ilba7r> L1nuz you should have this question in kubuntu channel though i think kde3.5 has system monitor with it right click to the panel with the mouse and select add system monitor
[10:34] <mrkoje> nomin,  I'm not really sure what the culprit could be, what type of computer/sound card do you have?
[10:34] <ITSa341> Good Night Everyone and thanks for the help. I really appreciate the helpful friendly atmosphere here.
[10:34] <mrkoje> ITSa341, goodnight...
[10:34] <Myrtti> did you use Automatix or such like script after the first install?
[10:34] <Myrtti> nomin
[10:35] <L1nuz> ilba7r: not for the bar, but for the desktop, and if possible trasparent!! something fun
[10:35] <nomin> onboard audio.  ac'97
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know of how to activate a thinkpads forward/backward browsing keys ?
[10:35] <kebanting> help, after i installed hostap n linux-wlan-ng i missing my list ESSID name from network configuration
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> i know it's xorg.conf..
[10:35] <CaptainMorgan> but that's all I know..
[10:35] <nomin> maybe I should burn a fresh copy of the install disk and reinstall ubuntu
[10:36] <Myrtti> nomin: did you use some program to add features to ubuntu after the first install?
[10:36] <kevor> Why is my usplash screen changed to xubuntu?
[10:36] <Myrtti> nomin: like EasyUbuntu, EasyBreezy or Automatix?
[10:36] <ilba7r> L1nuz i use gdesklets but i am using gnome and i do not know if it work in kde ( i doubt it)
[10:36] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  I think this is what your looking for:   http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work
[10:37] <L1nuz> in kde do not work
[10:37] <L1nuz> or work bad (?) sorry for my english i'm italina
[10:37] <L1nuz> eheheh
[10:37] <nomin> myrtti, the only thing I changed was that I replaced totem gstreamer with totem-xine.  This was after the sound wasn't working right.
[10:38] <diubidone> hey all how do i upgrade to firefox 1.5?
[10:38] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje - cheers :)
[10:38] <nomin> the only thing that could possible make sense to me right now is that my install disk has some flaw in it and I should burn a fresh copy and reinstall it
[10:39] <mrkoje> diubidone,  You either wait for the repos to have it or you compile it yourself... which I don't suggest unless you are very linux savvy
[10:39] <Myrtti> that change could be the reason, though I'm not sure
[10:39] <ilba7r> l1nuz sorry i do not use kde myself anymore so can not help
[10:39] <Myrtti> did you uninstall totem-gstreamer?
[10:39] <imrabti> hello
[10:39] <diubidone> mrkoje nahh i'll just be patient :D thx
[10:39] <nomin> myrtti, yes.  spm did it for me
[10:40] <L1nuz> grazi elo stesso
[10:40] <Myrtti> !it
[10:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:40] <L1nuz> grande vado subito
[10:40] <robotgeek> Myrtti: installing totem-xine replaces totem-gstreamer
[10:41] <nomin> Isn't there a command I could type so I could see what's going on with the sound output?
[10:42] <Myrtti> what I think the reason is, is that mp3's aren't enabled
[10:42] <nomin> what does ppracer use for sound?
[10:43] <mrkoje> nomin,  is that your only problem? That ppracer doesn't have sound or do all applications not have sound. Besides the ubuntu system sounds?
[10:44] <nomin> no music is working
[10:45] <mrkoje> nomin,  what type of music?
[10:45] <akumar> ppracer= if you want to have sound, start game, disable all sound/music and enable it again
[10:45] <nomin> streaming audio from shoutcast.com, mp3 files.  No sound at all in ppracer.
[10:45] <mrkoje> nomin, what format is the mus in? If the music is encoded in .mp3 or any other restricted format then you will not be able to play it unless you have the proper codecs.
[10:46] <CaptainMorgan> this seems useful, but I don't have a /etc/tpbrc nor an /etc/xmodmap folder or file....http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#tpb_configuration
[10:46] <mmans> Hi! I'm just trying to install ubuntu (5.10) on my Toshiba Tecra S3 laptop. But when i'm at the step to partition my disk, it says "No usable physical volumes found".. Any suggestions?
[10:46] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#tpb_configuration
[10:46] <dieffel> hello! i've installed lm-sensors on my shuttle-xpc running Ubuntu 5.10. Now, what app. do i need to watch the sensors on my GNOME-desktop?
[10:46] <mrkoje> nomin,  I don't know about ppracer... so I am not sure what setup options or the like are available.
[10:47] <nomin> i'm gonna try a few things and see what happens
[10:47] <Madpilot> dieffel: either xsensors or ksensors - I found that I could only get ksensors working here...
[10:48] <dieffel> Madpilot, ok do ksensors work with gnome?
[10:48] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  did see this part? I don't have a thinkpad and haven't used tpb before. I am in the process of getting a Thinkpad x41 on ebay though!
[10:48] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90tpb
[10:48] <mrkoje> For Debian users, tpb is started from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90tpb
[10:48] <Nytryx> morning!
[10:48] <Madpilot> dieman: yes - I'm running Gnome myself
[10:49] <limer> I installed apache rather than apache2, will this be an issue?
[10:49] <dieffel> Madpilot, ok - i'll try that. right now im using sensors
[10:49] <Nytryx> limer no
[10:50] <Nytryx> not unless you have a problem with it
[10:50] <limer> Nytryx: it resolves to the same thing I assume?
[10:50] <limguohong91> Hi May I know if there is any program where I can record my mouse action and stuff like a video?
[10:50] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  you need to apt-get install tpb
[10:50] <limer> I don't know the benefits/drawbacks of each
[10:51] <Nytryx> im not sure but if you google apache you'll find it
[10:51] <Madpilot> limer: I think Apache & Apache2 use different names for some of their config/control files - just something to be aware of
[10:51] <akumar> If anyone has enabled 3D graphics on a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop, please send me your xorg.conf file
[10:51] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  if you haven't already... its the program that enables the ThinkPad special keys... then you need to (if not already done so) add the  BACKWARD and FORWARD keywords into the config I presume
[10:51] <Nytryx> lingouhong91 there a program that allows you to make your webcam motion senistive and record when activated im not sure what its called
[10:52] <limer> I just assumed that "apache" would have been the newest version, then came across "apache2" when looking at the guide
[10:52] <jamppe> moi
[10:52] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[10:52] <limguohong91> Nytryx , You think i can find it at Synaptic?
[10:52] <jamppe> mist pin te ootte
[10:52] <Myrtti> !fi
[10:52] <ubotu> [fi]  "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[10:53] <jamppe> vittu
[10:53] <Nytryx> yeah if you uncommented the universe i should be there
[10:53] <jamppe> mit paskaa
[10:53] <jamppe> ++
[10:53] <Myrtti> kick him
[10:53] <Myrtti> that's cursing
[10:53] <jamppe> fuck you
[10:53] <Myrtti> thank you, you make a great impression of us Finns
[10:54] <jamppe>  kiss my asws
[10:54] <Myrtti> !ops
[10:54] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[10:54] <jamppe> ass
[10:54] <jamppe> ime kelli
[10:54] <jamppe> pNW
[10:54] <Myrtti> Seveas?
[10:54] <jenda_very_busy> good
[10:54] <Myrtti> phew
[10:54] <limguohong91> Good
[10:54] <limguohong91> Weird guy >.<
[10:54] <mrkoje> Well that doesn't happen much does it?
[10:54] <Myrtti> teenager probably
[10:54] <Juhaz> there should be age limit for using internet
[10:55] <Myrtti> indeed
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje thank you.. needed apt-get tpb... you're going for x model?
[10:55] <jenda_very_busy> You know... stupid people can be found at any age.
[10:55] <Corrupter> how can i password protect a folder?
[10:56] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  Im thinking about it for sure. I just sold my (much to small for me) vaio t350
[10:56] <johnblackhorse> better late than never
[10:56] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  Though I might opt for the T43...
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje you ever own a tp?
[10:56] <mmans> Anyone get ubuntu installed on a system with a "Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH 6 Family) IDE controller (rev 03)" ???
[10:56] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan, The T43 is 5.5 lbs.... the x31 is like 3.x somthing
[10:56] <Corrupter> how can i password protect a folder?
[10:57] <Myrtti> mmans: have you looked into the hardware database?
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje I don't think you'll go wrong with a tp... I do a lot of punching and grinding keys... thing takes all my punishment..
[10:57] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  no I haven't....   The Sony T series are good looking but with the 10.4 WIDE screen... is much to small for me to really use.. and the keyboard sucks to type on
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje owned three other brands before tp.. happiest so far..
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje lol - 10.4..!?
[10:58] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  are you talking abouit the Thinkpad TxxP series
[10:58] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  like the Thinkpad T43p
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje - yes, abbreviated to tp
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> oh, you mean in reference to my punishment?
[10:59] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  ya.... 10.4 wuxga..... with a 1280x768 res.... very small to look at
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje got a 14.1 t43... at 1400x1050 well suited..
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> any smaller and ill need bifocals
[11:00] <ztreck> when i try to install apache with apt-get install apache2 i get this error message: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:00] <ztreck> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[11:00] <ztreck>         if i use sudo i can't acces my document root, what can i do?
[11:00] <CaptainMorgan> probably equivalen to a 10.4 at 12x10
[11:01] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  I am glad I sold it.... so now I'm going to use that money and get a real laptop... a thinkpad for sure.
[11:01] <Madpilot> ztreck: do you have Synaptic or something open as well as the terminal?
[11:01] <Myrtti> erm, how do I burn a CD that's with the best probability compatible with Windows with Gnomebaker? The help files aren't that helpful
[11:01] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje - go for it :)
[11:02] <ztreck> no
[11:02] <Myrtti> are you sure?
[11:02] <Myrtti> ;-)
[11:02] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  I'm doing the DoD 5220-22M wipe on it as we speak.. and it ships on Monday..
[11:02] <ztreck> do i need to install it as root?
[11:02] <Myrtti> synaptic, aptitude, packet manager, add applications, update manager... are any of those open?
[11:03] <Madpilot> ztreck: "sudo apt-get isntall <whatever>"
[11:03] <Madpilot> *install... bleh
[11:03] <ilba7r> captinmorgan what type of wireless chip you have
[11:03] <Myrtti> what does rock ridge mean in gnomebaker?
[11:04] <CaptainMorgan> I don't understand this tpbrc file... the Forward and Backward's are there.... is # a comment delimiter?
[11:04] <Myrtti> yes
[11:04] <mmans> Myrtti: I looked at the ubuntu-wiki/forum and googled for hours but didn't find something usefull.
[11:04] <Madpilot> Myrtti: if you're just burning a data CD, Nautilus-burned files seem to work OK in Windows
[11:05] <CaptainMorgan> ilba7r - Atheros why?
[11:05] <CaptainMorgan> ilba7r - got it working with the help from liable yesterday... unreal..
[11:07] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  I just looked at the /etc/tpbrc file and YES you do need to remove the "#" from the Backward and Forward sections if you wish to use those functions.
[11:07] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  Then you will have to reload tpb
[11:07] <ilba7r> Captinmorgan i have t42 with ipw2200 and the firmware keep disconnecting my network frequently thought you might have a similar card
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> ilba7r - sorry, wish I could help
[11:08] <tempNick12222> hello
[11:08] <Myrtti> mmans: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport ?
[11:08] <tempNick12222> anyone a FREENODE STAFFER?
[11:08] <ilba7r> CaptinMorgan no prob my friend
[11:08] <tempNick12222> I need a nick dropped!
[11:09] <johnblackhorse> tempNick12222: join #freenode and ask
[11:10] <mmans> Myrtti: Yep...The Tecra S3 is not in the list... But also the Tecra S1 (The one i'm now chatting with) is not in the list, and ubuntu works great!!!
[11:10] <Myrtti> laptops, those?
[11:11] <ztreck> i have installed apache and php5 with "sudo apt-get install <app>", i make a simple php doc and name it index.php, i place it in my /var/www folder, when i go to localhost i get this message: Privileges     does this have anything to do with my account Privileges?
[11:11] <ztreck> oh, sry
[11:11] <ztreck> Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[11:11] <ztreck> Warning: Unknown: Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[11:11] <mrkoje> ztreck,  does your  /var/www/???  folder that is holding the php docs have execute privledges?
[11:12] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje when you say reload it.. you mean like reloading X ?
[11:12] <ztreck> yes all priviledges
[11:13] <CaptainMorgan> nm.. that's gotta be it.. cuz I found a file that said tpb is started when X starts ;)
[11:14] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  I'm not really sure... I presume that tpb is a service and that it needs to be restarted after somthing in the config changes
[11:15] <mmans> In dmesg I see something like: ICH6: IDE Controller at ..... ide0: BM-DMA at .....  So he does find something!?
[11:18] <mrkoje> ztreck,  You do have the apache-php module right? I'm not sure what its called...
[11:18] <Hayasdan> is this network full of bots? lol
[11:19] <odat> hello everyone
[11:19] <mrkoje> ztreck,  I know you installed apache2 and php but you need to make sure that the apache-php mod is enabled.... or intalled.. or one of the two... not quite sure
[11:19] <odat> quick question
[11:19] <Madpilot> !tell ztreck about apache
[11:19] <CaptainMorgan> make it quick :)
[11:19] <odat> i was just trying to install something from source  anyway i ended up adding almost all the gcc compilers  is that bad should i uninstall some of them?
[11:20] <CaptainMorgan> no worries - gcc loves you
[11:20] <nomin> mrkoje, I got music to play by installing the packages.  Still no sound in ppracer, maybe the sound don't work for it on ubuntu.
[11:20] <odat> just didn't want to cause any conflicts between them or anything else
[11:21] <mrkoje> nomin,  I couldn't really tell you anything about ppracer :( sorry.
[11:21] <CaptainMorgan> never heard of ppracer... funny name..
[11:21] <mrkoje> nomin,  My best advice would be to look at the ppracer configuration/setup to see if you can figure anything out there
[11:21] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  did the reloading of x make it work for you?
[11:22] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  because I noticed somthing bad when I read the man pages for tpb... it said that backward and forward were only for the thinkpad "a" series.....
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje nope - not working.. shit
[11:23] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  maybe try the xmodmap....
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje I only uncommented the second instances of the commands...
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> left the first instance of ##For and ## back.. alone
[11:24] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  also for firefox you need to edit a specific firefox config file so that it recognizes the keys also....
[11:24] <CaptainMorgan> but uncommented #For and #back
[11:24] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje - not about:config ?
[11:24] <mrkoje> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#Web
[11:25] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  thats right... the ##stuff  is actual comments.. the #stuff...    are usually arguments that have been commented out. That goes for most config type files
[11:25] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje that link sayz  tp's from 2002
[11:25] <CaptainMorgan> on
[11:26] <CaptainMorgan> and I don't thinkk they mean year.. do they? not that would matter... but i figured model..
[11:27] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje even for what looks like explanations commented a single # ?
[11:28] <ideology> how do you find a file or directory using only the first few letters of the name
[11:29] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  my fault... bad advice
[11:29] <mrkoje> CaptainMorgan,  Usually...  ##  indicates a new section or a sub section... the following #'s might be comments...    but maybe the last line of the section that has a  # might be the argument. You will have to use you judgement when reading a config file
[11:30] <percy4jeddah> hi evry1!
[11:30] <kijjaz> -_- yesterday i set the user preference wrongly.. i choose user to log in as root but i've just known that ubuntu doesn't use Root .. -_-" so now i can't set up anything..
[11:30] <kijjaz> do i need to open ununtu Rescue mode? and how? i'm using Ubuntu on PPC and i can't find how.
[11:31] <topyli> ah, freenode works again!
[11:32] <mrkoje> ideology,  use tab completion
[11:32] <mrkoje> ideology,  when typing a command  just press the tab key and the shell will help you out with the rest of the filename
[11:33] <topyli> kijjaz: what are you trying to do? why do you want to login as root?
[11:33] <qianang> hello!everybody!!
[11:33] <qianang> I am chinese!!
[11:34] <kijjaz> topyli: i did wronly, i misunderstood. i thought it'd be faster to set things up but now i can't setup anything coz only one user's root but root action is disabled..
[11:34] <CaptainMorgan> ideology try find -name *.c
[11:34] <kijjaz> topyi: so do i have to fix it by Rescue mode? i do wrong in user setup -_-
[11:34] <topyli> kijjaz: so you have no user who can use sudo?
[11:34] <CaptainMorgan> ideology if you know the name do, find -name <name>
[11:35] <n0dl> anyone here use openbox?
[11:35] <kijjaz> topyli: hehe i have only on user, and i can't use sudo here anymore..
[11:35] <ideology> CaptainMorgan:  thanks... find / -name dhcp* -print worked -- dunno why just find -name didn't automatically search subdirectories... anyways... thks ..
[11:35] <kijjaz> topylii: (and thanks for helping me out ^^")
[11:35] <CaptainMorgan> tab completiong ?
[11:35] <CaptainMorgan> hmm.. never tried that..
[11:36] <CaptainMorgan> ideology, appears to make sense :(
[11:36] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[11:36] <CaptainMorgan> my typing sux
[11:36] <ideology> CaptainMorg: NEVER used tab completion? :O -- its the best thing...... when getting into directories 5 level deep, etc ...
[11:36] <aviatrixie> that's one thing I like about Ubuntu... we meet people from China... all over, in fact
[11:36] <topyli> kijjaz: yes, you need to boot into rescue mode, and add the user to the admin group
[11:37] <aviatrixie> hi quamang
[11:37] <CaptainMorgan> oh wow... tab seems so fundamental.. nice work.. must've missed it somewhere in my reading
[11:37] <kijjaz> topyli: i just can't find a way i can boot in rescue mode. i'm using ubuntu on ppc, and it doesn't use GRUB boot loader. the manual says about Grub only..
[11:38] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan: tab-complete works in IRC as well, on nicks...
[11:39] <topyli> kijjaz: oh. well you have to find a way to pass commands to the kernel at boot time (specifically, the init=1) argument
[11:39] <aviatrixie> CaptainMorgan... enjoying your cheap rum?
[11:39] <CaptainMorgan> omg... here I am typing everyone's handle out..
[11:39] <CaptainMorgan> ;0
[11:39] <topyli> kijjaz: but i don't know how to do that on your bootloader
[11:39] <CaptainMorgan> i knew about up/down.. but not tab... ;)
[11:39] <Linuturk> Madpilot, I didn't know that! why do you need an autocomplete then? you don't!
[11:40] <ideology> oohh Tab completes handles on irc as well - thats cool ...
[11:40] <kijjaz> topyli: thx.. i'll try to do that.. thanks for helping.. i might reinstall from CD coz anyway this is my first time using Ubuntu ..
[11:40] <talios> any of you guys know much about ubuntu and ipods?  specifically the banshee music player - I get an error saying I have an unsupported database version, google only finds a pastebot of the exception message :(  any banshee devs here?
[11:40] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan: I can get your whole nick by typing "Cap<tab>" :D
[11:40] <CaptainMorgan> aviatrixie, hey sweetheart ;) little things that count
[11:40] <CaptainMorgan> Madpilot, !
[11:40] <topyli> ideology: makes conversation easier. people have alarms set when someone says their nick. and then people misspell their nics and everything goes to hell
[11:41] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan: Is a nifty trick, isn't it? :P
[11:41] <topyli> kijjaz: if it is a new installation, then a reinstall would probably be too much
[11:41] <ideology> topyli, yup - just discovered it and now know how people dont keep misspelling nicknames - another day, another mystery solved ..
[11:41] <CaptainMorgan> Madpilot, certainly is!
[11:41] <rraajj> Hey all! How do I uninstall self-compiled programs? Those that I installed using make install.
[11:41] <topyli> ideology: =)
[11:42] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, excellent point...
[11:42] <kijjaz> topyli: oh yeah.. hmm so there might be a way to boot from CD and just fix/reload the settings.. hmmm
[11:42] <kijjaz> dunno.
[11:42] <kijjaz> thanks cya all.
[11:43] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje, tp's, <tab>'s and shortcuts go well together
[11:43] <hotips> hello. i have a configured host.allow & host.deny but rules don't work on breezy (not server edition). Something specialto do ?
[11:44] <CaptainMorgan> Madpilot, only Ca is required... okay..im having too much fun :)
[11:45] <topyli> ideology: the only problem arises when someone chooses a nick beginning with something that's hard to type. then the time potentially saved with tab completion is unsaved again :)
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> hmm... <tab> seems slow on my comp..
[11:45] <topyli> like |||{{{cool-nick
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> at the terminal - not IRC
[11:45] <aviatrixie> Personally, I like Ubuntu for the way it found ALL of my hardware. Everything! Now I need to sort it out. I wanted to use Mepis. It looked to be the most user friendly. Alas... the bootable floppy hangs on boot.
[11:46] <mmans> I'm still trying to get ubuntu installed on a SATA drive. dmesg is sayin: "ATA: abnormal status 0xF on port 0xAEFF"??????
[11:46] <Vincent> How can I disable session restoring under KDE ?
[11:46] <Vincent> I want each new session to start from scratch
[11:46] <CaptainMorgan> aviatrixie, what type of system?
[11:46] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: you might be suffering from the regular gnome-terminal suckage. it's a common plague
[11:46] <nomin> are there video game emulators available for ubuntu?
[11:46] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, lol
[11:47] <topyli> Vincent: save an empty session when you next log out
[11:47] <topyli> Vincent: then disable session saving
[11:47] <cute_bettong> Seveas, are you there?
[11:47] <Vincent> topyli: so how do you disable session saving,then ?
[11:48] <rraajj> Vincent: System Settings --> User Account --> Session Manager.
[11:48] <topyli> Vincent: on kde, i have no idea
[11:49] <topyli> rraajj: no gnome there
[11:49] <rraajj> topyli: Hmm? That's on KDE. :D
[11:50] <topyli> Vincent: isn't there an option for session saving in the kde logout dialog?
[11:50] <topyli> rraajj: oh :)
[11:50] <planetcall> it jumps directly from 1024 to 1200
[11:50] <Vincent> topyli: no,mine only allow me to "end current session"
[11:50] <Vincent> GNOME offered me a choice
[11:50] <topyli> Vincent: ok, try rraajj's suggestion
[11:50] <Vincent> but,I do not want GNOME anymore
[11:51] <Hobbsee> Vincent: it's in system settings, i think
[11:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, like rraajj said above :)
[11:51] <rraajj> Vincent: If you're going to run Kcontrol, expand KDE Components, then there's a Session Manager there. :)
[11:52] <topyli> Vincent: "GNOME offered me a choice but,I do not want GNOME anymore". isn't that kinda funny ;-)
[11:52] <alamba> planetcall: u'll might need to add a modeline to your xorg.conf file...just google on it...figure out your hardware's horizontal and vertical refresh rates and it should work
[11:52] <CaptainMorgan> anybody favor kopete ? Im just getting it cofigured now... seems okay.. Im used to Gaim
[11:52] <Vincent> topyli: I know, but I wil not switch back to GNOME just for this
[11:52] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: i do, but then again, i use kubuntu, so i tend to use the kde stuff
[11:53] <rraajj> CaptainMorgan: Tried Gaim 2.0.0beta1? It's cool, I think.
[11:53] <odat> dapper is running pretty good
[11:53] <CaptainMorgan> rraajj, in syn?
[11:53] <planetcall> ty alamba
[11:53] <rraajj> No debian files yet, I think.
[11:53] <topyli> Vincent: yep. surely the good folks of kde have figured out session saving. you just need to find the option somewhere
[11:53] <rraajj> You can get the source from SF.
[11:53] <aviatrixie> CaptainMorgan... old... a chaintech MB... i810 chipset, all pci slots used,  Damn Small Linux freaks 2 out of 3 times finding my USB 2.0 card. Everyone finds my ethernet. Likewise my 32 meg ati card. My poor 633 Celeron is swamped, but I'm hoping if I don't burn too much my 145 watt ps will survive.  ;)
[11:54] <Vincent> ok, I found it somewhere in systemsettings
[11:54] <rraajj> ...
[11:54] <rraajj> *sigh* Oh well. :)
[11:54] <topyli> rraajj: is the irc support improving for gaim 2? i'd use gaim for everything if irc support didn't suck too much
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> Hobbsee, wow.. I like the statistics option..
[11:55] <Myrtti> I use irssi for everything :-)
[11:55] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: yes, it's very useful lol!
[11:55] <rraajj> topyli: I haven't tried IRC in Gaim 2.0 yet. I like X-Chat for IRC better than Gaim.
[11:55] <topyli> Myrtti: hear hear :)
[11:55] <dragoon> oooer dapper nearly finished
[11:56] <Myrtti> #bitlbee for ICQ, MSN et al ;-)
[11:56] <CaptainMorgan> rraajj, hmm.. I use X-chat for IRC and Gaim... trying Kopete for IM.. you mean you can do both IM/IRC on all clients?
[11:56] <topyli> rraajj: yeah, but gaim is a good "use this for everything" candidat :)
[11:57] <rraajj> CaptainMorgan: Gaim can be used for IRC, too. And several other IM protocols, like Chikka (an SMS provider).
[11:57] <Seveas> cute_bettong, pong
[11:57] <topyli> Myrtti: true, bitlbee works (kiinda, most of the time, and for quite a few protocols once you have a day to set it up)
[11:57] <rraajj> topyli: Yeah, I think so too. But I like my IRC and IM's separated from each other. :)
[11:57] <cute_bettong> Seveas, do you know anything about soundcards and ubuntu's sound?
[11:57] <Myrtti> topyli: I'm a lazy ass and use public bitlbee servers ;-)
[11:58] <Seveas> very, very little
[11:58] <topyli> rraajj: i hate it. chat is chat :)
[11:58] <cute_bettong> Seveas, i am haveing one heck of a time trying to figure this out
[11:58] <Seveas> poke crimsun, he's the sound guru
[11:58] <topyli> Myrtti: there are public bitlbees?
[11:58] <cute_bettong> um he's not here
[11:58] <rraajj> topyli: Tru dat. Besides, the level of messaging for IM and IRC is different. Or something like that.
[11:59] <AzMoo> Guys, I'm trying to do an update with the automagic update thingo, and it opens and asks me what updates I want to install, but when I click install it just pops up with the download dialog, then closes it again straight away and does nothing. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:59] <topyli> rraajj: yeah, but you have to be careful with logging or your beagle will kill your machine by indexing all of #ubuntu =)
[12:00] <rraajj> topyli: Lol.
[12:01] <nexyon> hi
[12:01] <topyli> Myrtti: OOH! http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/servers.html
[12:01] <nexyon> Does anyone know something about C programing? I've opened a file with fopen(argv[i] , "r"); how do I find out if argv[i]  is a directory?
[12:02] <rraajj> AzMoo: Why not try using Synaptic instead? Then choose "Mark all upgrades".
[12:02] <redguy> nexyon: how is this related to ubuntu?
[12:02] <CaptainMorgan> what's the exchange for IRC ? in Gaim?
[12:02] <rosen> AzMoo, I am a new user of Linux (like yourself probably), and I used Automatix the first time aswell.. But the next day I made a clean install and did it manually.. You will learn alot of basic routines diong it and get a much better insight into what is going on
[12:02] <nexyon> redguy: I use ubuntu :-)
[12:02] <rosen> AzMoo, regarding your problem ... I have no idea
[12:03] <redguy> nexyon: you might as well call up your power company since you are using their electricity...
[12:03] <AzMoo> rosen, I'm not a linux noob, I'm an ubuntu noob ;)
[12:04] <nexyon> redguy: good idea, thanks, wait a second ...
[12:04] <rosen> AzMoo, ok I'll shut up then.. But then why not use Synaptic, or apt-get ?
[12:04] <AzMoo> rosen, I just did, and it worked, but I'd still like to have the automatic updates working. It's convenient.
[12:04] <nexyon> redguy: they said, that they didn't know
[12:05] <Myrtti> try the phone company
[12:05] <Myrtti> they might have someone who knows
[12:05] <Myrtti> or try some irc channel for c coders
[12:05] <CaptainMorgan> Hobbsee, how do you replace the menubar? I chose hide, and now I can't get it back... ;(
[12:05] <redguy> nexyon: :-) not that I am a C guru, but I would look for a function that does that for me in the stdlib
[12:05] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: try ctrl+m
[12:05] <soundray> Is there a way to forward sound via ssh, similar to X forwarding?
[12:05] <mae> whats the difference between /etc/issue and /etc/motd ??
[12:05] <CaptainMorgan> Hobbsee, :)
[12:06] <CaptainMorgan> redguy, what are you looking for?
[12:06] <topyli> Myrtti: "Quite a lot of BitlBee users are EmacsOS users who were desparately seeking for a program which brings Jabber, ICQ and all those other IM-networks to their favourite edi^H^H^Hoperating system"
[12:06] <topyli> Myrtti: that's on the bitlbee "screenshot" page :)
[12:07] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:07] <Myrtti> kekekekeke ;-)
[12:07] <redguy> CaptainMorgan: nexyon wants to check if a certain file descriptor is actually a dir or a file in C
[12:07] <CaptainMorgan> nexyon, got code?
[12:07] <CaptainMorgan> paste it..
[12:07] <CaptainMorgan> no there.
[12:07] <CaptainMorgan> not here.. in pastebin
[12:08] <topyli> Myrtti: they say you can use bitlbee on mirc too. "We don't do it, most people don't do it, but it happens"
[12:08] <nexyon> CaptainMorgan: no code, because I don't know how to check :-) only FILE *fin = fread(argv[i] , "r"); // not copied yet - written :-)
[12:09] <ZiX> I AM CRAZY
[12:10] <CaptainMorgan> nexyon, so you're checking for a conditioN? because fread for a file.. Im guessing that it would ignore a dir
[12:10] <nexyon> CaptainMorgan: no it opens a stream but if you getc from that stream only 0xFF is returned
[12:11] <soundray> I want to run skype via ssh on a remote machine. How can I forward the sound in- and output?
[12:11] <milksteak> haha
[12:11] <milksteak> <3 the channel being highlighted on people saying crazy stuff like that
[12:11] <rosen> AzMoo, hmm I guess it is but... Well being a new user myself maybe I'm just to enthusiastic :P
[12:12] <ZiX> milksteak: you have "milk" on hilight? xD
[12:12] <milksteak> yeah
[12:12] <milksteak> <3
[12:12] <ZiX> rofl
[12:12] <ZiX> milk and cookies
[12:12] <ZiX> milk and shit
[12:12] <topyli> soundray: esound is a networking daemon that sucks very badly but could possibly handle such a case :)
[12:12] <ZiX> milk and babes
[12:12] <milksteak> XD
[12:12] <ZiX> milk and sex
[12:12] <milksteak> milk and steak?
[12:12] <ZiX> milk and drooly's
[12:12] <ZiX> rofl
[12:12] <ZiX> yea :P
[12:13] <shadox> hello
[12:13] <CaptainMorgan> nexyon, you're missing info.. just on that line of code... but I don't think i should tell you
[12:13] <shadox> can someone help me out with a firefox problem?
[12:14] <jenda_very_busy> shadox: fire away
[12:14] <shadox> well, i just downloaded the 1.5 version
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> I never like to do FILE *fin = .... ;
[12:15] <soundray> topyli, that looks like it's going to be a major config task. I thought there might be a trick that worked similar to X forwarding.
[12:15] <shadox> but when i install it, it allways sais E: can not found the package, but the package is on my desktop
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> always FILE *fin ;
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> then fin = ..... ;
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> but that's me
[12:15] <ProN00b> why isn't there even a firefox 1.5 in multiverse ?
[12:15] <izi_> hi vribody, i can't get WPA working with my linksys wag54g AP (my settings here: http://pastebin.com/468846 ), i'm stuck
[12:15] <topyli> soundray: it is similar to X. which is why i said it sucks :)
[12:16] <lucasvo> shadox: is it a .deb package?
[12:16] <nexyon> CaptainMorgan: sure in my real program it's like that...
[12:16] <soundray> topyli, :)  I'll look into it, thank you.
[12:16] <lucasvo> shadox: if so, you have to open a command line, cd Desktop then dpkg --install __FILENAME__
[12:16] <shadox> it's euhm tar.gz file
[12:16] <CaptainMorgan> well.. maybe it'll help if you pastebin a block :)
[12:17] <lucasvo> shadox: in that case you would have to compile it
[12:17] <lucasvo> shadox: you can't just simply install it
[12:17] <shadox> can you tell me how to do that, 'cuz i'm on ubuntu from yesterday
[12:18] <melonipoika> hi, anyone knows how to modify the frecuency steps for a pentium 4 mobile?
[12:18] <CaptainMorgan> nexyon because I know in that line you pasted, there's more that's incorrect
[12:18] <melonipoika> i can see the actual values doing cat, but i cannot edit it...
[12:18] <lucasvo> shadox: if you need the new firefox, I suggest you download the latest dapper package, I can give you the url
[12:18] <shadox> that would be very nice
[12:18] <soundray> shadox, are you sure you cannot make do with 1.0.7? Firefox 1.5 on breezy is a Bad Idea(tm).
[12:19] <melonipoika> soundray, why is it a bad idea?
[12:19] <shadox> i'm used to 1.5 on windows, and in 1.0.7 there are a lot of funcions missing
[12:19] <melonipoika> 1.5 is faster tan 1.0.7, at least i think so...
[12:19] <Chousuke> 1.5 fixes one VERY annoying 1.0.x bug too, as far as I know
[12:20] <Chousuke> which makes it appear quite a lot faster.
[12:20] <shadox> in 1.0.7 i cannot even set a homepage :s
[12:20] <soundray> melonipoika, because it depends on lots of other stuff that isn't in breezy yet. E.g. new libpango versions.
[12:20] <Raskall> what does /var/run/utmp do? Sometimes, when starting screen or creating new windows in screen it says something about /var/run/utmp and "no such process" or something.
[12:20] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:20] <melonipoika> ah, yes, i had to install something else, that is true
[12:20] <lucasvo> shadox: http://wservices.ch/~lucas/ablage/firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu6_i386.deb
[12:21] <shadox> thnQ
[12:21] <lucasvo> shadox: you have to wait a little bit, I am not finished uploading it
[12:21] <shadox> ok
[12:21] <melonipoika> i updated it using a howto someone told me here, but i think that an easier way is to change "breezy" to "dapper" is source.list, and update firefox with synaptics
[12:21] <Chousuke> soundray: can't you compile it against an older version?
[12:21] <soundray> melonipoika, I managed to set it up and run, but I found the advantages in speed insufficient to justify the lack of compatibility with existing extensions a.s.o.
[12:21] <Chousuke> melonipoika: that's dangerous
[12:22] <Chousuke> dapper may still break sometimes
[12:22] <Raskall> ahh.. it has a debian bug #, even
[12:22] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[12:22] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Are you on ritalin?
[12:22] <melonipoika> ah, ok
[12:22] <soundray> Chousuke, I'm sure you can, but that'll open another can of worms.
[12:22] <Hobbsee> they took it out???
[12:22] <lucasvo> melonipoika: this package is from dapper
[12:22] <bina> how do you find out the numbers of all the processes your User is running?
[12:22] <Hobbsee> bina: top
[12:22] <Myrtti> ps axu|grep user
[12:22] <dragoon_> is it nice lucasvo ?
[12:22] <bina> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:22] <enyc> /joit
[12:23] <shadox> is there also a way to get mp3's working on ubuntu?
[12:23] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[12:23] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:23] <rikai> well.... if you guys plan on supporting gaim 2.0, you're going to want to update oRTP...
[12:23] <melonipoika> btw has someone upgrade to dapper from breezy using apt-get dist upgrade?
[12:23] <Raskall> shadox: search for mp3 on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <Raskall> shadox: or what ubotu said. :)
[12:23] <lucasvo> dragoon_: ye, but update isn't that easy
[12:23] <dragoon_> how so lucasvo ?
[12:24] <shadox> ok thnx i'll give it a tray
[12:24] <shadox> *try
[12:24] <lucasvo> melonipoika: it is not a good idea
[12:24] <Myrtti> since breezy has been stable for only two months, I'd stick with it until dapper became more mature
[12:25] <Myrtti> no, hoary
[12:25] <lucasvo> dragoon_: there are a lot of packages being held back
[12:25] <Myrtti> no, nevermind
[12:25] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[12:25] <dragoon_> ohok
[12:25] <izi_> anyone here have a linksys AP ?
[12:25] <lucasvo> shadox: it is only 50% by now
[12:25] <dragoon_> lucasvo: and will this cause me problems, seeing i changed sources.list and are using dist-upgrade
[12:25] <soundray> izi_, yes
[12:25] <smo> Can anyone suggest some docs for nat/iptables that go a little futher than just port-forwarding? (specifically, trying to map multiple public IPs to multiple lan IPs)
[12:25] <lucasvo> dragoon_: do it by hand, do not use dist-upgrade
[12:25] <izi_> soundray: wpa works ok with breezy ?
[12:26] <kairu0> hi all
[12:26] <shadox> ok
[12:26] <dragoon_> lucasvo: ok....
[12:26] <dragoon_> how would i do that
[12:26] <Madpilot> smo: I've got this bookmarked, haven't read or used it yet though: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[12:26] <soundray> izi_, but I don't use WPA -- I use ssh for everything that goes over wireless.
[12:26] <kairu0> i'm looking for the name of an X program that displays how much hard disk space each folder is taking. i heard about one a long time ago but i dont remember the name.
[12:26] <izi_> soundray, hum ok ;)
[12:27] <smo> Madpilot, thanks
[12:27] <Madpilot> kairu0: Baobab
[12:27] <shadox> i tried your way but when install the gstreamer it sais "E: no package is foun"
[12:27] <lucasvo> dragoon_: chagne sources in apt,  update apt-sources, sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:27] <lucasvo> shadox: did you enable main in sources.list(apt)
[12:28] <kairu0> Madpilot, thats it. thanks!
[12:28] <melonipoika> so back with my first question, how can i modify the values of the frecquency steps?
[12:28] <shadox> uhu, i enabled all of it where it sais "uncomment the following ..."
[12:28] <soundray> izi_, I know it's a compromise because I'm not protecting my network against unauthorized use, but you'd have to do MAC address spoofing to do that, which I think is enough of a barrier.
[12:28] <Madpilot> kairu0: np - Baobab is a pretty cool app
[12:29] <soundray> izi_, have you got wpasupplicant? I think that's what you need to do WPA in breezy.
[12:29] <Madpilot> need sleep... later, everyone
[12:29] <CaptainMorgan> any folks familiar with Emacs ? i can't get bold font to stay saved after a reloading of the program... but I can keep the fontstyle... ??
[12:29] <lucasvo> shadox: what gives you apt-cache search gstreamer?
[12:30] <izi_> soundray, yes: http://pastebin.com/468846
[12:30] <lucasvo> shadox: or when you search in synaptic?
[12:30] <shadox> searching in synaptic for gstreamer?
[12:30] <alamba> hi all...what's an alternative to the regular chkconfig in ubuntu? Basically my box loads postfix service on boot which i'll like to stop, don't want any open ports on my machine
[12:31] <debjan> hallo!
[12:31] <soundray> izi_, I take it you've tested it without encryption.
[12:32] <shadox> when opening the synaptic packager it sais "hte following problems were found on your system:"
[12:32] <izi_> soundray, yep and it works ok
[12:33] <soundray> izi_, is wpasupplicant running?
[12:34] <lucasvo> shadox: can you paste the output on pastebin.com?
[12:34] <ssh_rdp> hey , is there any gaim2 package for dapper/breezy?
[12:34] <lucasvo> shadox: try to download the package now
[12:34] <lucasvo> ssh_rdp: I am still runing gaim1.5cvs on dapper
[12:35] <izi_> soundray, sure: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -d -w -i ath0 -D madwifi -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:35] <shadox> k, i'll try
[12:36] <greenpenguin13> whats gaim 2 like?
[12:36] <rraajj> ssh_rdp: 2.0.0beta1 is out. You can get the source at SF now.
[12:36] <ssh_rdp> downloading source kod
[12:36] <ssh_rdp> *code:D
[12:36] <rraajj> ssh_rdp: I don't think there're available binaries on their SF yet.
[12:36] <soundray> izi_, what I mean is: have you started it with '/etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start'? Checked with ps? Checked the logs?
[12:36] <shadox> the package is secured
[12:37] <ssh_rdp> i know , but it is source
[12:37] <rraajj> greenpenguin13: It has Doodle! *glee glee glee*
[12:37] <shadox> now the apt-get install <filename>  have to work?
[12:37] <greenpenguin13> woot ive been waiting for that :)
[12:37] <izi_> soundray, yep checked with ps, dunno where to find the logs though
[12:37] <soundray> izi_, as I don't use it myself, all I can do is nag you with the obvious stuff.
[12:37] <greenpenguin13> does it have animated smiley support?
[12:37] <soundray> izi_, /var/log/syslog
[12:37] <soundray> izi_, e.g. grep wpa /var/log/syslog
[12:38] <CaptainMorgan> any folks familiar with Emacs ? i can't get bold font to stay saved after a reloading of the program... but I can keep the fontstyle... ??
[12:38] <lacking> Ok whats the best P2P mp3 software and yes please make it illegal?
[12:38] <Seveas> !emacs
[12:38] <izi_> soundray, nothing in the logs,  i'm going to investigate further, anyway thx
[12:38] <Seveas> ubotu, ping
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> what is the !whatever for/
[12:39] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:39] <Seveas> hmm, ubotu died :/
[12:39] <soundray> CaptainMorgan, do you save the options via the menu?
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> gnuradio i think is sposed to be good
[12:39] <Seveas> cafuego, ping
[12:39] <CaptainMorgan> soundray, yes.. "i can't get the bold to stay saved....'
[12:39] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[12:39] <eVILPeeR> Hi there, is there any possible way to access my windows partitions for say.. mp3 files?
[12:39] <lacking> !mp3
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> yeah sure
[12:40] <greenpenguin13> install ntfs support from synaptic
[12:40] <eVILPeeR> Oh, I didn't know that was possible now.
[12:40] <lacking> WTF the fuck I am a noob straight out a test tube!!!!!
[12:40] <soundray> CaptainMorgan, I'm asking because you could have edited .emacs directly.
[12:40] <greenpenguin13> u have to tell it about how to mount tho
[12:40] <eVILPeeR> Well, currently I'm on a live disc. I'm considering switching from windows to linux.. and I've heard good stuff about Ubuntu
[12:41] <rraajj> greenpenguin13: Animated smileys? Isn't that present since, uhh, the version before?
[12:41] <CaptainMorgan> hm... k ill look into that..
[12:41] <eVILPeeR> So far I've had no trouble doing anything really. Adding applications seems really easy.. the terminal isn't so bad, it's like DOS..
[12:41] <greenpenguin13> as in support for custom ones
[12:41] <Seveas> !ntfs
[12:41] <shadox> yet, when i try to install the .deb file it still sais "E: can't find package"
[12:41] <greenpenguin13> !fish
[12:41] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:42] <Seveas> what's up with all the bots :s
[12:42] <Seveas> @load infobot
[12:42] <Ubugtu> Error: Infobot is deprecated.  Use --deprecated to force it to load.
[12:42] <eVILPeeR> One question, when running say.. 3D games, is there Direct-X support for Linux? Or, is there some other app?
[12:42] <Seveas> @load --deprecated infobot
[12:42] <Ubugtu> The operation succeeded.
[12:42] <Seveas> !ntfs
[12:42] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: you may have to configure flgrx
[12:42] <dragoon_> so how would i upgrade from breezy to dapper
[12:42] <n0dl> dragoon_: are you sure you want to do taht
[12:42] <eVILPeeR> Flgrx?
[12:42] <n0dl> dragoon_: its very unstable
[12:42] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: yes there should be a board thread about it
[12:42] <greenpenguin13> dapper is nice :)
[12:42] <dragoon_> n0dl: how unstable ?
[12:42] <Seveas> dragoon_, if you have to ask: don't
[12:43] <DuXia> hi. anyone can help me with configuring a mail server for ubuntu?
[12:43] <rraajj> eVILPeeR: OpenGL for 3D acceleration.
[12:43] <dragoon_> ok...
[12:43] <eVILPeeR> Ahh.
[12:43] <n0dl> dragoon_: its not even halfway into devel and the flight two is only for ubuntu
[12:43] <soundray> eVILPeeR, no, fglrx not flgrx
[12:43] <eVILPeeR> Okay, that makes sense.
[12:43] <n0dl> i mean kubuntu
[12:43] <n0dl> sorry
[12:43] <DuXia> help? anyone?
[12:44] <ubotu> I guess emacs is the best editor ever to grace this planet
[12:44] <ubotu> pong
[12:44] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:44] <eVILPeeR> Alright, last question.. there is a game I play called Ragnarok Online.. however, it's windows-only. Is there any possible way to play it while in Linux?
[12:44] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:44] <soundray> dragoon_, best to use breezy until you are familiar enough with Ubuntu to know how to upgrade.
[12:44] <n0dl> no vi is
[12:44] <ubotu> fish is probably A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[12:44] <rosen> dapper isnt really ready yet is it ?
[12:44] <bimberi> !ping
[12:44] <Ubugtu> pong
[12:44] <lacking> Ok whats the best P2P mp3 software and yes please make it illegal?
[12:44] <greenpenguin13> im using it :)
[12:44] <soundray> ubotu sure knows about emacs.
[12:44] <ubotu> soundray: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:44] <n0dl> dragoon_: moving to dapper requires you to edit your sources.list
[12:44] <soundray> ubotu, yes
[12:44] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, soundray?
[12:45] <topyli> heh
[12:45] <georges_> hi, how do you setupt smartmontools for your PC? e.g. I would like to have an email if anything on my valued harddisks goes wrong
[12:45] <lacking> ubotu, dont priiv msg me with sex talk.
[12:45] <ubotu> lacking: What?
[12:45] <n0dl> dragoon_: as a word of advice before you do anything to your sources.list you might want to back it up
[12:45] <dragoon_> ok
[12:45] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: as for you
[12:45] <dragoon_> so its as simple as changing breezy to dapper
[12:45] <dragoon_> and using apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:45] <lacking> ubotu, you pirv me?
[12:45] <ubotu> I don't know, lacking
[12:45] <eVILPeeR> Yes?
[12:45] <lacking> priv*
[12:45] <topyli> dragoon_: and before you upgrade to broken versions of ubuntu, back up all your data
[12:45] <shadox> my firefox 1.5 still don't want to work :'(
[12:45] <n0dl> dragoon_: you have to change every refrence of breezy to dapper first
[12:46] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: you have to back up your xorg.conf before you do the fglrx
[12:46] <lacking> ubotu, this is no brokeback mountain.
[12:46] <ubotu> lacking: what are you talking about?
[12:46] <dragoon_> yea - easy enough
[12:46] <bimberi> ubotu tell lacking about yourself
[12:46] <greenpenguin13> is there an easy way to upgrade yet?
[12:46] <DuXia> hi. anyone can help me with configuring a mail server for ubuntu?
[12:46] <lacking> ubotu, I need illegal P2P file sharing software
[12:46] <ubotu> lacking: I give up, what is it?
[12:46] <n0dl> dragoon_: if you REALLY want to try (more like desperately) you should use kubuntu
[12:46] <greenpenguin13> id hate to tell some people to do that
[12:46] <eVILPeeR> n0dl, ah, I see.
[12:46] <n0dl> dragoon_: the flight two cd is based on it
[12:46] <dragoon_> ah ok
[12:47] <dragoon_> might check it out then
[12:47] <dragoon_> thanks
[12:47] <topyli> lacking: please don't play with the bot
[12:47] <DeepBlueGhost> Hello... could someone tell me how to reconfigure monitor frequecies?  I know it's dpkg something....:)
[12:47] <rosen> oh I can't stand this.... lacking Amule is a part of univers or multivers... go fetch boy
[12:48] <lacking> rosen, hmm I dont like Amule.... :(
[12:48] <rosen> lacking then stop spamming for help :)
[12:48] <eVILPeeR> Well, my main reasoning for switching to Linux is because Windows is well.. unstable. I hear Linux is very stable, and this distro is really good. Aswell, my CPU is 64-bit.. and the current Windows that supports it is well, not that good. But I hear Linux is great with 64-bit capability, so I do want to utilize that.
[12:48] <Seveas> @part
[12:48] <lacking> rosen, is Amule good?
[12:48] <Seveas> ubotu, you broken
[12:48] <ubotu> Eep! *crash*
[12:48] <greenpenguin13> someone tell me whether sf is working for them?
[12:49] <Seveas> sf is down
[12:49] <greenpenguin13> aah
[12:49] <Seveas> prdownloads.sf.net wors though :)
[12:49] <bimberi> !xorg
[12:49] <greenpenguin13> bugger
[12:49] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:49] <bimberi> DeepBlueGhost: was it that? ^^^^
[12:49] <eVILPeeR> However I would use Linux the same as I do Windows.. that is, I play an MMORPG, chat.. surf the web, run server applications, imaging.. things like that.
[12:49] <n0dl> eVILPeeR:  you have may want to change your kernel
[12:49] <rosen> lacking, not really ... but then I dont really use illegal measures to get music... the whole point of me switching to linux was to stop being paranoid over using cracked software.
[12:49] <eVILPeeR> What do you mean, n0dl? Please explain.
[12:50] <greenpenguin13> is installing kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop a good idea?
[12:50] <rosen> eVILPeeR, would that mmorpg be WoW ?
[12:50] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: do you see my pm?
[12:50] <DeepBlueGhost> Yep. thanks.
[12:50] <lacking> rosen, ok..... hmmmm.
[12:50] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, only if you think using kde and gnome is a good idea :)
[12:50] <greenpenguin13> :)
[12:50] <eVILPeeR> Yes I do
[12:50] <greenpenguin13> i just want to check kde out
[12:50] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: talk in there
[12:50] <eVILPeeR> Okay
[12:51] <soundray> eVILPeeR, Linux is indeed great for 64bit, but i386 runs well on AMD64 CPUs *and* has some nice closed-source add-ons, like Adobe Reader and Macromedia Flash plugin.
[12:52] <topyli> so acroread is "nice" now? i didn't know that ;-)
[12:52] <greenpenguin13> is there really no #gnome?
[12:53] <topyli> greenpenguin13: it's on gimpnet
[12:53] <greenpenguin13> aah
[12:53] <soundray> topyli, I'm on amd64, so I can't use it and I'm still surviving.
[12:53] <topyli> soundray: avoiding it has made my survival a lot easier
[12:54] <DeepBlueGhost> bye, gonna reset x now.
[12:54] <soundray> topyli, but Reader 7 is quite impressive wrt rendering quality.
[12:55] <topyli> soundray: sure, it does work. it's just not very enjoyable to use :)
[12:55] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: did you get any of my pms?
[12:55] <eVILPeeR> Just now? Might not have.. last thing I saw was the last question I asked.
[12:55] <n0dl> hmmm
[12:55] <eVILPeeR> About the kernel and CPU data.
[12:56] <n0dl> eVILPeeR: try typing '/msg n0dl' without the quotes
[12:56] <eVILPeeR> Perhaps I need to register my nickname?
[12:56] <n0dl> oh and type a message after that
[12:56] <n0dl> oh yes
[12:56] <n0dl> you should
[12:56] <eVILPeeR> I'll do that right now
[12:56] <soundray> topyli, well it has that in common with evince, gpdf, xpdf and kpdf.
[12:56] <n0dl> type '/msg NickServ REGISTER (password)' without the quotes
[12:56] <MICALLEF> yo
[12:56] <limer> I just removed apache and installed apache2.  when I try to go to localhost via lynx or telnet, connection refused
[12:57] <MICALLEF> anyone a pro on cookies.txt and cookies in general?
[12:57] <PeeR> Hm
[12:57] <Savage> It isn't liking me today >_>
[12:57] <Savage> All these nicknames are taken xD
[12:57] <SweetestSavage> Ah, there.
[12:58] <MICALLEF> i basically have data showing in firefox 1.5 when I do "show cookies" but the data is not present in the cookies.txt file... any ideas?
[12:58] <soundray> MICALLEF, you may be looking at the wrong cookies.txt. Do a 'locate cookies.txt'.
[12:58] <MICALLEF> did
[12:58] <MICALLEF> thats the only one
[12:59] <MICALLEF> :-?
[12:59] <platypus> hi
[12:59] <shadox> :( can someone tell me how to install firefox 1.5 "cuz the wiki page explication won't work :'(
[12:59] <Goshawk_> i've a problem compiling binutils: http://pastebin.com/468870
[12:59] <greenpenguin13> The server at sourceforge.net is taking too long to respond. :'(
[12:59] <platypus> do you know how can I install a software in linux please?
[12:59] <lucasvo> shadox: did you downlaod the package I told you?
[12:59] <shadox> yes i did
[12:59] <ssh_rdp> :( couldn't compile gaim2 on breezy
[01:00] <MICALLEF> really freaky.... two of the three values are only showing in the cookies.txt file...
[01:00] <ssh_rdp> requires newer GTK
[01:00] <shadox> it still sais "E: couldn't find the package" :'(
[01:00] <MICALLEF> the one that is missing is an ASP .NET session ID
[01:00] <soundray> MICALLEF, maybe the cookies you're looking at in the browser are new from this session. Exit the browser to sync.
[01:00] <rosen> Using synaptic to remove a program I dont use anymore. What is the difference between a removal and a complete removal ? .. I want to make sure I do not accidently erase anything that is used in other programs
[01:00] <MICALLEF> i'll give that a shot
[01:01] <limer> I just removed apache and installed apache2.  when I try to go to localhost via lynx or telnet, connection refused
[01:01] <soundray> rosen, complete removal removes the config files as well.
[01:01] <platypus> please help me I'm new to linux and I don't know how I can setup a software !
[01:01] <limer> any ideas guys?
[01:01] <soundray> rosen, don't worry, it'll never remove anything that another package needs without warning you.
[01:02] <rosen> soundray, so it should be ok to use, since I found a better program ? (programs in question is gnomebaker vs. k3b)
[01:02] <soundray> rosen, absolutely.
[01:02] <rosen> soundray, ah nice :) .. I love buildt in seatbelts
[01:03] <shadox> any ohter sugestions to install the ff 1.5?
[01:03] <soundray> rosen, if you do a removal rather than complete removal, you can change your mind later and you'll still have your old configuration.
[01:03] <MICALLEF> soundray: we have a winner! :-) its you!
[01:03] <rosen> soundray, allright .. nevermind that,  I need to overburn :D
[01:04] <MICALLEF> soundray: yeah the sessionID cookie disappears as soon as I quit Firefox. It aint there when I restart Firefox.
[01:04] <soundray> rosen, so k3b works for you?
[01:05] <rosen> soundray, flawlessly
[01:05] <soundray> shadox, you need to run dpkg -i full/path/to/downloaded/firefox1.5*.deb
[01:07] <soundray> shadox, replace 'full/path/to/downloaded/' with the actual directory that contains your downloaded .deb file.
[01:07] <londonboi2k3> ~logs
[01:08] <shadox> the package is on my desktop
[01:08] <bigfoot1> i can't get the audio to work on pandora.com when i use opera browser, but it works when i use a mozilla-based browser (e.g. Galeon). what's up?
[01:08] <soundray> shadox, in the terminal, do 'dpkg -i $HOME/Desktop/firefox*deb
[01:08] <soundray> '
[01:08] <shadox> and "sudo apt-get install firefox&1.5 " results in "E: can't find the package" but E station is my cdrom :s
[01:09] <shadox> ok, i'll try
[01:09] <soundray> shadox, you cannot use apt-get install on breezy unless you are installing a breezy package.
[01:10] <shadox> now it sais, dpkg function can only be exicuted by administrator
[01:10] <shadox> :s but i'm administrator :s
[01:10] <soundray> shadox, okay, do the same command again, but with 'sudo' at the beginning.
[01:11] <shadox> replacing the dpkg by sudo? k will do
[01:11] <soundray> shadox NO
[01:11] <shadox> huh?
[01:11] <bigfoot1> anybody using opera browser here? If you are please go to pandora.com and let me know if you hear music from the flash part.
[01:12] <soundray> shadox, 'sudo dpkg -i $HOME/Desktop/firefox*deb'
[01:12] <michael> Is there a way to find more pakages (newer Versions) in synaptic?
[01:12] <shadox> aaah k
[01:12] <soundray> shadox, best to replace firefox*deb with the actual name of the file on the desktop.
[01:12] <rraajj> bigfoot1: By any chance, is it working in Firefox?
[01:13] <nomin> Right now I'm learning how much more difficult a triple-booter is than a dual-boot.  A dual-boot is so easy to manage.
[01:13] <shadox> now it sais "can't reach archive: unknown file"
[01:14] <soundray> shadox, you have mistyped the filename then.
[01:14] <shadox> the files is "firefox1.5.deb" should i also enter the .deb in the commandline?
[01:15] <Goshawk_> i've a problem compiling binutils: http://pastebin.com/468870
[01:15] <soundray> shadox, yes.
[01:15] <bigfoot1> rraajj: yes, it's working in firefox and in galeon
[01:15] <shadox> aha, then that could have been the prblem
[01:15] <shadox> *giving it another try
[01:15] <selinium> Hi guys, when I a ripping my CD's I get great speed for the first rip, then less and less until I end up at around 3.6x speed. It there a buffer or something that needs emptying? Any ideas?
[01:16] <shadox> pff another complication
[01:16] <bigfoot1> rraajj: then again, i don't think i can get audio even on a site like video.google.com. I used to get audio on video.google.com on opera
[01:17] <rraajj> bigfoot1: Hmm. At first I thought it was alsa that has problems, but you said it works in Firefox and Galeon, so... *shrug*
[01:17] <rraajj> bigfoot1: Sorry, can't help. I don't have Opera. :(
[01:18] <alexis_> hi
[01:18] <shadox> it now sais "conflict packages - firefox will not be installed"
[01:18] <andy_> hello everyone
[01:18] <soundray> shadox, which package does it conflict with?
[01:19] <andy_> after a few inittal glitches I'm up and running with ubuntu for the first time :)
[01:19] <soundray> andy_, well done.
[01:19] <shadox> version 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1
[01:20] <soundray> shadox, okay, do a 'sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox'
[01:20] <bigfoot1> rraajj: thanks
[01:20] <bigfoot1> any opera users out here?
[01:20] <seeds> hello how can fix that bootup error?
[01:20] <shadox> that will remove the current ff version?
[01:20] <andy_> shadox: thanks!  It was a _lot_ easier than my last linux install about 2 years ago!
[01:20] <seeds> open sock hardware not found
[01:21] <soundray> shadox, then do the dpkg command again.
[01:21] <nomin> i had opera installed by i have recently reinstalled my OS and I don't have opera yet
[01:21] <ilba7r> shadox why you want to install firefox 1.5 why not just untar it than use both ver
[01:22] <soundray> ilba7r, please don't come in with alternative suggestions when plenty of people have got shadox to this stage with lots of work.
[01:22] <andy_> what is the best way to provide feedback to the ubuntu team on the installation process?
[01:22] <andy_> for example, my mouse did not work properly first time
[01:22] <ilba7r> soundray i am just wondering any way good luck all
[01:23] <shadox> now it sais "could not find status of http: // ...."
[01:23] <simon__t> hi
[01:23] <soundray> ilba7r, I see the value of your suggestion, but shadox wants 1.5, not 1.0.7.
[01:23] <soundray> shadox on what command?
[01:23] <shadox> the removal
[01:24] <soundray> shadox, could you paste the full error in #flood pls
[01:24] <simon__t> is there any opportunity to make a specific environment for all user accounts on gnome desktop?
[01:25] <ilba7r> soundray ok i know you have spent time on that with him. I just know it might cause tons of broken packages this way was trying to make it easy
[01:25] <shadox> i can paste it for you, but it is in dutch, dunno if you understand it
[01:25] <DuXia> hi
[01:25] <DuXia> anyone can help me with mail server?
[01:26] <drcode> duxi?
[01:26] <soundray> ilba7r, that's exactly what seems to be happening. Do you want to take over from me? Kids are nagging -- they want me to play...
[01:26] <drcode> what email server
[01:26] <drcode> what is the problem
[01:26] <soundray> shadox, please go ahead
[01:26] <xerophyte> DuXia, give more detail what kind of mailserver and find out
[01:27] <DuXia> i juz installed postfix
[01:27] <shadox> just pasting is this window?
[01:27] <xerophyte> DuXia, there dedicated channels for mailservers
[01:27] <DuXia> then i read somewhere that i need to install courier too
[01:27] <andy_> I have a fresh install of ubuntu here, but I can't seem to start the update manager
[01:27] <xerophyte> DuXia, /join #postfix
[01:27] <andy_> any ideas where to start looking?
[01:27] <soundray> shadox, no, join #flood and paste it there, or use pastebin if you know about it.
[01:27] <xerophyte> DuXia, true you need smtp + pop + imap .. some of them need mysql for alias too
[01:27] <ilba7r> ok take care soundray than will try to do my best
[01:28] <shadox> no, i don't know both of them :$ i'm neb to ubunt from yesterday
[01:28] <xerophyte> DuXia, courier provide pop and imap
[01:28] <DuXia> hmm
[01:28] <gollo_ex> need help with conky, what is the code i have to put in to show my wlan bit rate ?
[01:28] <shadox> *new
[01:28] <DuXia> i cannot seem to get courier working leh
[01:28] <soundray> shadox, ilba7r has kindly agreed to help you from here on.
[01:28] <DuXia> my postfix is working
[01:29] <soundray> shadox, hope you can get it running. ilba7r, thank you very much!
[01:29] <ilba7r> shadox open this link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:29] <DuXia> any deb mail server package which i can use?
[01:29] <shadox> ok, thnx for your part of the help :)
[01:29] <ilba7r> soundray you are welcomed my friend
[01:29] <gollo_ex> anny suggedtions ${color lightgrey}Net: $color${addr wlan0}${offset 6}${color lightgrey}Link: ${color}${linkstatus wlan0}dB
[01:30] <gollo_ex> the code for showing bit rate ?
[01:30] <shadox> ok, i opened it
[01:30] <ilba7r> shadox and paste in it your error
[01:30] <shadox> ok
[01:31] <DuXia> is there any deb mail server package which i can use?
[01:31] <shadox> hmm it seems ctrl-C  and ctrl-V don't work :s
[01:31] <ilba7r> shadox now tell me the pastebin number you should have a link send it to me
[01:31] <ambrose_> hi
[01:31] <rzzi> when i m dialing internet getting mesg. modem not respond i m new on linux whts the  problem.
[01:31] <andy_> ambrose_: hi
[01:31] <shadox> ok
[01:32] <binks_> can anyone tell me how to use gutenprint drivers
[01:32] <binks_> i have them installed but cant select driver in
[01:34] <Goshawk_> please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5878  mybe there is a bug on breezy when you try to set up a cross-developing envirorment
[01:34] <DuXia> sorry to ask again. Is there any deb mail server package which i can use?
[01:34] <rzzi> modem not responding means what..
[01:34] <gollo_ex> linkstatus wlan gives me link, how can i view my bit rate ?
[01:34] <andy_> linux really has come a long way in terms of ease of use over the past two years!
[01:35] <binks_> andy i agree but still some more to go
[01:36] <andy_> can anyone help me with an update manager problem (on a fresh install of 5.10 on i386)?
[01:36] <ilba7r> .msg ubotu firefox
[01:36] <binks_> andy what u tryin to acheive
[01:37] <rzzi> plz can anybody guide me my modem is not responding whts the cuz
[01:37] <viktor_> someone knows a good ftp prog that use ssl or ssh
[01:37] <viktor_> ?
[01:37] <rio> hey
[01:37] <viktor_> and that is pretty easy to use :P
[01:37] <ilba7r> shadox i am not recieving any messages from you
[01:37] <rio> terminal and root terminal seem to be missing from my menu since i upgraded to breezy
[01:37] <rio> and also Run Application at the bottom of the App menu
[01:38] <burepe> What does noauto mean in fstab?
[01:38] <redguy|work> viktor_: I suppose gftp can do ssl.
[01:38] <rio> seems to have been replaced by 'Add Applicaion'
[01:38] <andy_> binks_: I can seem to start it - I click on the red icon next to the clock and nothing happens.  Can't seem to start it by selecting System >> Administration >> Update manager either.  I don't get any error message or any prompts - nothing!
[01:38] <shadox> not?
[01:39] <simon__t> is there a programm with which i can graphically manage user accounts (the desktop and the specific permissions)?
[01:39] <shadox> i already send you 3 mss's
[01:39] <rzzi> simon
[01:39] <simon__t> like sabayon
[01:39] <rzzi> i need help
[01:39] <viktor_> okeje
[01:39] <rzzi> simon
[01:39] <simon__t> ?
[01:39] <viktor_> is it easy to use to ?
[01:40] <rzzi> my modem is not responding whts the cuz
[01:40] <ilba7r> shadox i got none perhaps you have not registed yet
[01:40] <rzzi> i m usiing ubuntu first ime
[01:40] <lucychili> cool
[01:40] <shadox> registed?
[01:40] <binks_> u got a internet connection on that machine
[01:40] <shadox> where do I do that?
[01:40] <simon__t> i do not know
[01:40] <shadox> but i first must to for dinner, my mum starts stressing
[01:40] <binks_> andy
[01:40] <rzzi> i need help
[01:41] <rzzi> can anybody help me
[01:41] <ilba7r> shadox type /msg nickserv identify than type a passwd
[01:41] <rzzi> my modem is not responding
[01:41] <shadox> in this window or somewhere else? :$
[01:41] <rzzi> ubuntu
[01:41] <rzzi> shadox i m using ubuntu
[01:41] <ilba7r> in the place where you type your messages , type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[01:42] <rzzi> shadox
[01:42] <rzzi> u getting my msg
[01:42] <shadox> yes
[01:42] <rzzi> ok.
[01:42] <rzzi> actually i tried alot.
[01:42] <rzzi> but when i m dialing like   sudo wvdial
[01:43] <rzzi> its intialising but at the end gives mesg modem not responding
[01:43] <shadox> euhm guess i'm not te right person to help you out, i'm new to ubuntu from yesterday :)
[01:43] <rzzi> hhmm this is ubuntu channel right
[01:43] <shadox> uhu
[01:43] <rzzi> whom should i ask man
[01:44] <shadox> dunno, just ask if anyone can help you :)
[01:44] <ilba7r> rzzi just ask your question if some one know the answer he will answer you
[01:44] <shadox> cuz i'm really nooob :)
[01:44] <rzzi> ok
[01:44] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: can you describe your problem more specifically?
[01:44] <rzzi> thanx jenda
[01:44] <viktor_> i meant if there was a good ftp server program :P
[01:44] <shadox> ilba7r, where should i do this /msg thing?
[01:44] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: I myleslf might not be able to help - but we'll see
[01:44] <ilba7r> in any window shadox
[01:45] <rzzi> actually  my modem is not responding
[01:45] <rzzi> it initialize sending ATZ
[01:45] <shadox> that woulde be /msg nickserv shadox or ...
[01:45] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: what type of modem, what did you do, is it a fresh install, what does it not respond to?
[01:45] <rzzi> sending ATQo
[01:45] <ilba7r> type /msg NickServ shadox <password>
[01:46] <shadox> ok
[01:46] <ilba7r> and you select a passwd for you
[01:46] <rzzi> its a fresh install i do have conexant modem hsf 56 hsfi modem
[01:46] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: a dialup modem?
[01:46] <rzzi> yes
[01:46] <rzzi> dialup modem internel
[01:46] <jenda_very_busy> connected how?
[01:46] <ilba7r> os sorry shadox
[01:46] <ilba7r>  type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[01:46] <shadox> aaah
[01:46] <ilba7r> the server already know you nick
[01:47] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: try running pppconf
[01:47] <rzzi> i did
[01:47] <rzzi> its configured already
[01:47] <shadox> so just type identify, or replace it by a name :$
[01:47] <jenda_very_busy> it ight not be configured properly
[01:47] <ilba7r> just type identify
[01:47] <jenda_very_busy> but I don't know - I'm no guru.
[01:47] <shadox> :s it sais password incorrect :s
[01:48] <rzzi> thanx i m checked my pppconf 2000 million time LOL
[01:48] <ilba7r> than someone else have your nick
[01:48] <nadira> hi i have problems with locales and, gcc. i tryed to remove gcc and install it back. but still i cant compile a simple hello world program. it seems like it cannot find the stdio.h file or any other header files.
[01:48] <mgedmin> nadira, try apt-get install build-essential
[01:48] <ilba7r> shadox lets focus now on firefox
[01:48] <shadox> ok
[01:49] <ilba7r> it will cause you a lot of headache to replace 1.07
[01:49] <ilba7r> what i did is installed them  both side by side
[01:49] <nadira> mgedmin it cannot i gett the following error build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[01:49] <nadira>                             libc-dev
[01:49] <rzzi> can anybody help me my dialup modem is not responding
[01:49] <shadox> ok, if it works, i will do the same thing you did
[01:50] <shadox> but i first really really have to go for dinner
[01:50] <shadox> brb
[01:50] <ilba7r> but if you want to totally replace it here is a link to do that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99004
[01:50] <mgedmin> nadira, interesting.  you definitely need to have libc6-dev installed if you want to compile C programs
[01:50] <ilba7r> ok shadox bon apetite
[01:50] <craiga> hi all
[01:50] <craiga> anybody have any experience with DVD burning in Hoary?
[01:51] <nadira> and libc6-dev depends libc6- 8= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubunutu14)
[01:51] <mgedmin> nadira, what version of libc6 do you have?
[01:51] <nadira> i mean libc6 (=2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14)
[01:51] <nadira> how can i found that out
[01:51] <mgedmin> nadira, apt-cache policy libc6
[01:51] <viktor_> someone knows were to get drivers for a ATI 9800SE AIW ? so that the tv tuner works ? =)
[01:52] <rzzi> whts the command to know Modem is installed and properly configured.
[01:52] <rzzi> whts the command to know Modem is installed and properly configured.
[01:52] <mgedmin> look at the Installed line, or at ***
[01:52] <nadira> libc6 installed 2.3.2.ds1-22
[01:52] <shadox> back
[01:53] <rzzi> whts the command to know Modem is installed and properly configured.
[01:53] <shadox> thnx btw :)
[01:53] <ilba7r> ok shadox first you did not uninstall firefox v 1.07 right
[01:53] <shadox> correct
[01:53] <dionmarkus> Hi all
[01:53] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: sorry - me be no help thera
[01:53] <dionmarkus> Amanranth: Are you there?
[01:53] <jenda_very_busy> rzzi: try the forums
[01:53] <shadox> i was doing the removal thing when soundray told me you would help me out
[01:53] <rzzi> no problem jenda
[01:54] <ilba7r> ok download firefox from here http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
[01:54] <rzzi> no problem jenda
[01:54] <rzzi> whts the command to know Modem is installed and properly configured.
[01:54] <shadox> i did
[01:54] <craiga> I'm getting weird IDE errors and corrupted data when burning to DVD
[01:54] <dionmarkus> Ok
[01:54] <ilba7r> great did you untar it
[01:54] <craiga> I've followed as many guides as a can and now I'm stuck
[01:54] <shadox> this is the firefox-1.5.tar.gz file
[01:54] <nadira> is there a way to fix this problem or do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[01:54] <ilba7r> yes shadox
[01:54] <dionmarkus> Anyone knows why? ubuntu admin tools breaks when configuring a root acount?
[01:54] <Astxist> rzzi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemConexantHSF?highlight=%28modem%29%7C%28conexant%29#head-b078189c415255fa05157dffd66ff482e043a432
[01:54] <shadox> i also got a .deb file downloaded
[01:54] <esperisto> I installed ubuntu today
[01:54] <Astxist> rzzi, might be of help
[01:55] <jenda_very_busy> dionmarkus: Gimme a sec
[01:55] <ilba7r> leave he .deb file for now
[01:55] <dionmarkus> Ok
[01:55] <shadox> ok
[01:55] <mgedmin> nadira, hoary had libc6 2.3.2ds1-20, breezy has libc6 2.3.5; I don't know where you got your version of libc6 from
[01:55] <ilba7r> so did you untar it
[01:55] <rzzi> thanx AStxist
[01:55] <mgedmin> nadira, I'd upgrade to breezy if I were you
[01:55] <shadox> no, how do you untar it?
[01:55] <ilba7r> right click on the file and select extract here
[01:55] <afd_> hi! I running dapper and I have a problem with my Applications menu. After an update (I think menu was installed), the Applications menu will not stay opened. I've had this problem before, and somehow fixed it, but I can't remember what I did
[01:55] <nadira> mgedmin please how can i do that?
[01:55] <afd_> Anyone has a clue to a solution?
[01:56] <shadox> got it
[01:56] <ilba7r> ok enter the directory than
[01:56] <shadox> now it is "firefox-1.5.tar.gz_FILES"
[01:56] <joedj> has anyone attempted to use the kwin-baghira package in breezy? it seems broken
[01:56] <ilba7r> you shoudl have a firefox directory now
[01:56] <Astxist> rzzi, the real problem with conexant modems if you have to pay for the driver
[01:56] <shadox> no, can't C a directory
[01:57] <Astxist> rzzi, well to get anything above 14.4kbps
[01:57] <mgedmin> nadira, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:57] <ilba7r> ok again select the file firefox-1.5.tar.gz and right click by the mouse on it then select extract here
[01:57] <shadox> the file is on my desktop
[01:57] <CaptainMorgan> do you lose quality after gzip/gunzip ?
[01:57] <Astxist> rzzi, it might be better (though of little comfort really) to get another modem
[01:57] <craiga> ok, I'll try elsewhere then ...
[01:58] <Astxist> rzzi, I had no problem getting my intel based modem working
[01:58] <ilba7r> are you using gnome or kde
[01:58] <mgedmin> CaptainMorgan, no
[01:58] <shadox> guess gnome
[01:58] <ilba7r> ok open the file manager
[01:58] <dionmarkus> Well i must go
[01:59] <dionmarkus> No i must not :P
[01:59] <ilba7r> in the places menu select desktop
[01:59] <shadox> got it
[01:59] <ilba7r> you should find the firefox dir there
[01:59] <shadox> (some translation time required :) )
[01:59] <ilba7r> ok there is a firefox file with icon SH on it
[01:59] <ilba7r> click that
[02:00] <shadox> can't find a dir :s and there also is non file whit icon SH on it :s
[02:01] <ilba7r> do you have a firefox directory
[02:01] <shadox> there are 3 files: the extracted one, the tar.gz and the .deb
[02:01] <remi> hi all
[02:01] <ilba7r> ok enter the extracted one (it is a directory named firefox not a file)
[02:01] <shadox> what do you mean with "firefox directory"
[02:02] <nadira> mgedmin i cannot install a simple thing as ubuntu-base or ubuntu-desktop all depends on libc6-i686
[02:02] <shadox> aah k :$
[02:02] <nadira> how can i remove libc6 and install the one used on hoary?
[02:02] <shadox> yes now there is a directory called firefox
[02:02] <ilba7r> shadox did you open this dir
[02:02] <ilba7r> directory
[02:03] <shadox> i opened the firefox dir
[02:03] <ilba7r> ok there is a firefox file in it with SH icon on it
[02:03] <shadox> now there are some .so files on the first sight
[02:03] <shadox> yup and i got the SH one
[02:03] <ilba7r> ok click it
[02:03] <ilba7r> and select run
[02:04] <shadox> now it ask me  if i would like to run it or explore it
[02:04] <shadox> going for "run"?
[02:04] <ilba7r> slect run it
[02:05] <shadox> euhm i must close first the othter firefox windows
[02:05] <ilba7r> yap
[02:05] <nadira> is sudo apt-get remove libc6 dangerous? i need to remove it to install 2.3.2ds1-20
[02:06] <shadox> it sais "firefox is already active you need to shut down some windows or reboot"
[02:06] <shadox> whoeps
[02:06] <ilba7r> shadox do you know how to open a terminal window
[02:06] <shadox> forgot that there are multiple desktops (a)
[02:06] <shadox> yes
[02:06] <ilba7r> open one and type
[02:06] <ilba7r> killall firefox
[02:07] <shadox> done
[02:07] <ilba7r> now run the file
[02:07] <shadox> there still was open on another desktop
[02:07] <viyyer> I am pretty confused with this gstreamer shit.. on clicking on cdrom button this gstreamer interface comes up ..ok I am using warty please done't flame me on this
[02:07] <shadox> huh? strange
[02:07] <nadira> is sudo apt-get remove libc6 dangerous? i need to remove it to install 2.3.2ds1-20
[02:07] <topyli> nadira: well, absolutely everything depends on libc so i wouldn't recommend removing it
[02:07] <shadox> it still gives that message :s
[02:07] <ilba7r> shadox killall should kill all instances
[02:08] <ilba7r> did you run something as root
[02:08] <nadira> topyli how can i then install the correct libc6
[02:08] <shadox> no
[02:08] <nadira> because iam not even able to compile c programs
[02:08] <ilba7r> you have to close all firefox windows
[02:08] <ilba7r> type top in the terminal it will tell you what is running on your pc
[02:08] <shadox> wait, i'll close every window except this one and the firefox and terminal
[02:09] <topyli> nadira: if your system is working, you have the correct libc. why do you need an old one?
[02:10] <shadox> got it
[02:10] <shadox> those multiple desktops are a plaque
[02:10] <ilba7r> haha you will find them beneficial afterword
[02:10] <ilba7r> but you can reduce their number if you want
[02:10] <nadira> because iam not able to compile a small C program. and i thought this was caused by the locales. stuff which gives me perl warning all the time
[02:11] <shadox> it worked
[02:11] <rodrigo> ol
[02:11] <shadox> i'm on 1.5
[02:11] <ilba7r> yap
[02:11] <shadox> :d:d thnQ
[02:11] <shadox> but
[02:11] <ilba7r> your welcomed
[02:11] <tdn> I have just installed KDE. Now I am missing a lot of applications... For example the Kontrolpanel (or whats it called)...
[02:11] <shadox> should i nw always run the sh file?
[02:11] <ilba7r> you miggt need some plugins for java and flash
[02:11] <tdn> All the apps for configurating KDE are gone.
[02:11] <topyli> nadira: what is this program? if it doesn't compile, it's either broken or you're missing some libraries
[02:12] <ilba7r> if you want fireffox .5 you need the sh file
[02:12] <ilba7r> if you want 1.07 you do not need it
[02:12] <shadox> is there a possibility to make it the default browser in stead of 1.07?
[02:13] <nadira> simple hello world program that includes stdlib.h and stdio.h and neither of the header files could be found
[02:13] <ilba7r> to do that you should consult the links i sent to you
[02:13] <ilba7r> it is much harder task shadox
[02:13] <damnhil> how do I make gcc take /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 instead of /usr/lib/libXi.so ?
[02:13] <topyli> nadira: then you should be adding those, not removing libc :)
[02:13] <ilba7r> for myself i am waiting when it is done in the new ubuntu release dapper
[02:14] <shadox> aha, better for me to wait then
[02:14] <nadira> topyli how can i add them?
[02:14] <topyli> nadira: install build-essential for a reasonably sane build environment
[02:14] <ilba7r> shaodx wiser your time is better spent eslewhere :)
[02:14] <nadira> topyli i tried that
[02:14] <shadox> uhu
[02:14] <shadox> it just i'm really sick of windows
[02:15] <shadox> from september till yet i had to format my notebook 9 times!
[02:15] <ilba7r> frankly i have not ran window for long tim
[02:15] <MenZa`> !kubuntu
[02:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:15] <MenZa`> Where's that upgrade to kubuntu from ubuntu at?
[02:15] <shadox> and still i got a lot bluescreens
[02:15] <ilba7r> and when i do i feel confused for i forgot how things are done on window
[02:15] <nadira> essentials depends g++-3.3 and g++ depends g++. this is weird
[02:15] <viktor_> how do i do to get my 9800SE AIW to work?? with tvtime?
[02:16] <shadox> it really would like to learn ubuntu, but things are very hard
[02:16] <Riddell> MenZa`: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <ilba7r> shadox it just need time and as i said you do not need cutting edge programs
[02:17] <topyli> nadira: your program is not looking for headers from the right place. headers should be somewhere around /usr/include but your program doesn't know that, or your environment is not right
[02:17] <shadox> uhu
[02:17] <ilba7r> shadox if you want cutting edge programs you will spend lot of time and time is well spent elsewhere :0
[02:17] <shadox> as long as it isn't formatting a notebook it's ok :D
[02:18] <ilba7r> btween you and me i prefer the window setup in 1.07
[02:18] <shadox> window setup in 1.07?
[02:18] <ilba7r> shadox you will rarely need a format even a distribution upgrade does not need one
[02:18] <ilba7r> oh i ment the menus setup in 1.07 and for performance i find them both nearly the same
[02:18] <jenda_very_busy> dionmarkus: sorry - had a phone (gimme another sec :))
[02:19] <nadira> topyli i have done locate stdio.h and it cannot be found on the system.
[02:19] <ilba7r> though i heared that 1.5 is faster but for my work never noticed any speed gain
[02:19] <shadox> uhu, but the startup page from 1.07 can't be changed
[02:19] <nadira> and g++ is not installed at all. when i try to install it, i get dependencie error.
[02:20] <shadox> i don't think 1.5 is faster, cuz the speed is due to your connection
[02:20] <dave1> hi, i'm looking for help with instalation
[02:20] <ilba7r> shaodx you can change it edit>preferences than select your homepage
[02:20] <nomin> is anyone in here experienced with setting up a triple-booter?
[02:20] <shadox> :|
[02:20] <dave1> on the ununcu cover i've read that i can lost my all data if i install in bad way
[02:20] <topyli> nadira: just install the build-essential package
[02:20] <dave1> when i boot system from cd, should i jst hit enter or choose expert mode?
[02:20] <shadox> h?!!!
[02:21] <shadox> 1.5 is the default
[02:21] <ilba7r> ok shadox got to go now. you will find flashplayer installation simple. for java you will spend some time though
[02:21] <ilba7r> take care than bye for now
[02:21] <shadox> ok
[02:21] <shadox> thnQ very much for your help
[02:21] <dave1> can any1 help me?
[02:21] <shadox> bye
[02:21] <nadira> topyli build-essential:
[02:21] <nadira>  Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[02:21] <nadira> 	libc-dev
[02:21] <nadira>  Depends: g++ but it is not going to be installed
[02:21] <ilba7r> ur welcomed
[02:22] <topyli> nadira: that sounds very fishy. how are you trying to install it?
[02:22] <nadira> yes
[02:22] <dave1> If I want install ubuntu when windows is already installed shouid I just hit enter on the 1st instalation screen or to expert mode?
[02:22] <topyli> yes? i'd try apt-get instead :)
[02:23] <hypn0> how can i view video files as they download
[02:23] <robotgeek> jenda_very_busy: who was asking?
[02:23] <CaptainMorgan> anbody familiar with imap/pop/smtp? I want to receive mail through thunderbird from multiple accounts... why do I need an smtp or one smtp? Im trying to send from say, gmail...
[02:23] <damnhil> dave1, expert mode will have a lot of configuration that you do not want to deal with. Use the normal one
[02:23] <Astxist> could someone tell me what /opt is for?
[02:23] <robotgeek> CaptainMorgan:possible :)
[02:23] <CaptainMorgan> Im NOT trying to send from gmail..
[02:23] <nadira> topyli i used both synaptic package manager and apt-get (command line)
[02:23] <jenda_very_busy> robotgeek: dionmarkus, but he obviously left...
[02:24] <dave1> damnhil: and it's possible to use windows and linux, it won't delete without promot?
[02:24] <dave1> prompt*
[02:24] <topyli> nadira: try "apt-get -f install" with no packages
[02:24] <CaptainMorgan> I realize that for each account, you need the incoming server... but why an outgoing ?
[02:24] <CaptainMorgan> since you're using one client
[02:25] <nadira> topyli: 0 upgraded, o newly installed, 0 remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:25] <cached> hi
[02:25] <robotgeek> CaptainMorgan: for replying to certain ppl with a different email add?
[02:25] <topyli> nadira: good. now try "apt-get install build-essential"
[02:26] <cached> im assuming were all using ubuntu?
[02:27] <nick_> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[02:27] <cached> im stuck in a house of windoze users :(
[02:27] <nadira> topyli i tried this, but it wont work, depends libc6-dev depends g++ (>= 3:3.3)
[02:27] <damnhil> dave1, You have to install grub in perhaps /dev/hda, not in /dev/hda1
[02:27] <nick_> what should I do about this?
[02:27] <damnhil> topyli, how do I query packages containing libSM.so ?
[02:28] <tiglionabbit> damnhil: what do you mean by query?
[02:28] <damnhil> cached, what do you mean by a house of windoze users?
[02:28] <damnhil> tiglionabbit, I want to install libSM.so but I don't know what packages have it
[02:28] <tiglionabbit> damnhil: I think he means his family all use windows.  As do mine-- they're afraid of learning
[02:28] <MoonRanger> !mp3
[02:28] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:28] <cached> i mean everyone in my house uses windoze but me
[02:29] <mgedmin> damnhil, use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <tiglionabbit> damnhil: well look for something that starts with 'libsm' =P lemme find out what that is
[02:29] <cached> and im trying to convert my dad because he's used unix before
[02:29] <cached> and continue from there :)
[02:29] <cached> is it possible to get realbasic through APT?
[02:29] <topyli> nadira: try installiing those packages first. personally i think either your system is broken or i'm not understanding you correctly
[02:29] <damnhil> tiglionabbit, cached: My parents use gentoo and kubuntu. They demand me to teach them.
[02:30] <cached> is kubuntu any easier than ubuntu in some way
[02:30] <damnhil> tiglionabbit, cached: My father is afraid of unable to use Kubuntu actually
[02:30] <cached> because I want to start iwth the easiest
[02:30] <topyli> damnhil: it's in libsm-dev according to apt-file
[02:30] <tiglionabbit> damnhil: you were conceived by software?
[02:30] <Ophiocus> cached, send them to the movies while you dualboot their machines and configure mail/messenger clients,. then tell them its just a "theme"
[02:30] <cached> haha
[02:30] <cached> i'll need to partition which is a pain
[02:30] <Actomik> can anyone tell me what are pci slots are called in linux
[02:30] <Ophiocus> i bet 60% of people would go for that with no aditional remark
[02:30] <cached> is there any good partition manager?
[02:31] <Ophiocus> cached, partition magic to rezize
[02:31] <tiglionabbit> cached: gparted?
[02:31] <damnhil> tiglionabbit, cached: what do you mean by conceived by software?
[02:31] <tiglionabbit> people always say partition magic, but I've never seen it, and there are many free things that would probably work better
[02:31] <cached> ophiocus, dawnhil, tiglionabbit: is there any good free one?
[02:31] <Actomik> can anyone tell me what are pci slots are called in linux
[02:31] <Ophiocus> i am asumming they have sensitive info in windoze and that they are most certainly ntfs partitions
[02:31] <Ophiocus> have to rezise from winthin win
[02:31] <tiglionabbit> if you wanna partition, use the install disc or a livecd of something, and open up *parted
[02:31] <damnhil> topyli, how did you know it was libsm-dev?
[02:32] <Ophiocus> not on win
[02:32] <tiglionabbit> Ophiocus: use a livecd why not?
[02:32] <topyli> damnhil: i searched for the file with apt-file of course
[02:32] <cached> yeah
[02:32] <Ophiocus> cached do a little p2p
[02:32] <void^> Actomik, eh, pci slots are most commonly refered to as pci slots
[02:32] <cached> :)\
[02:32] <cached> i've never used *parted
[02:32] <Ophiocus> tiglionabbit, ntfs partitions for windows, with sensible data hidden in obscure user directories
[02:32] <cached> tiglionabbit, what's that?
[02:33] <damnhil> topyli, I have no apt-file. Where did you get apt-file?
[02:33] <tiglionabbit> Ophiocus: some versions of parted, like the one on the install CD, can resize ntfs partitions
[02:33] <topyli> damnhil: i installed it with my good friend apt-get :)
[02:33] <cached> ANYONE, JUST IN CASE YOU WERE ABOUT TO GET SOMEONE LINDOWSOS... DO NOT DO IT
[02:33] <CaptainMorgan> this is where it's weird.. like in 'Add new account' you get to the server settings... and it says down below that the existing smtp server will be used... why?? Im not sending mail from my gmail account to my school professors
[02:33] <tiglionabbit> damnhil: apt-get it
[02:34] <nadira> where can i find the libc6-dev package and install it manually?
[02:34] <tiglionabbit> nadira: from any ubuntu repository
[02:34] <Seveas> nadira, packages.ubuntu.com and on the ubuntu cd
[02:34] <Hoxzer> hi, what should I do if .wine/config doesn't exist and I need to edit
[02:34] <Ophiocus> hooo, requested, what a nice educated way to kick ban
[02:35] <Hoxzer> it?
[02:35] <mgedmin> nadira, the version of libc6-dev needs to match the version of libc6
[02:35] <topyli> nadira: try packages.ubuntu.com. but if apt cannot install it, i doubt it will be easier by hand either
[02:35] <Ophiocus> i though ntfs what out of lins understanding yet?
[02:35] <mgedmin> since you have a strange version of libc6, I do not think you will be able to find a matching version of libc6-dev
[02:35] <Ophiocus> i mean samba for example cant write to it
[02:35] <mgedmin> therefore I suggested you upgrade your system to breezy
[02:35] <Seveas> Ophiocus, well, ntfsmount in dapper can write to ntfs
[02:35] <Ophiocus> safely?
[02:35] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: why do you need to edit it?  (uh, just create it then)
[02:35] <Ophiocus> no corruption of sectors?
[02:36] <jenda_very_busy> Ophiocus: experimental, AFAIK
[02:36] <Seveas> dunno, didn't test my windows partition after abusing it heavily with this :)
[02:36] <Ophiocus> thats what i mean
[02:36] <Hoxzer> tiglionabbit: Yeah, but I dunno what to put in then
[02:36] <void^> "safety" is a very relative concept =)
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> Ophiocus: there is currently support for reading and resizing ntfs, but not writing to it
[02:36] <Seveas> but that's the plan for today, so aks tomorrow :)
[02:36] <Hoxzer> because all the guides are like "edit config file section win98 under [dll files] "
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: well are you sure you have wine installed and have run it?
[02:37] <Hoxzer> Yes
[02:37] <Ophiocus> out of sheer curiosity, how can you resize without writing?
[02:37] <bigfoot1> how do i open a .wmf file?
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> Ophiocus: well, there is support for writing, but it's unreliable
[02:38] <tiglionabbit> I guess resizing was easier
[02:38] <CaptainMorgan> in thunderbird... I see only one outgoing server.. but I have two accounts... how come there isn't a server for each account?
[02:38] <void^> writing to existing files, yes. creating new files, no.
[02:38] <tiglionabbit> Ophiocus: it's probably because to write new files you would have to modify the journaling system, which is the complicated part
[02:38] <void^> and then there's captiventfs, which is basically cheating by using windows ntfs drivers.
[02:39] <andrei> hello guys. what do you recommend for accesing direct connect hubs ?
[02:39] <Ophiocus> in anycase you case resize with gparted from the install cd,.. have to run a shell or is that more like a loader component?
[02:40] <dell500> does anyone know of a driver of some sort that reads/writes raid ext2 systems?
[02:40] <shadox> does someone has an easy solution for mp3?
[02:40] <Ophiocus> !mp3
[02:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:40] <andrei> shadox, gstreamer-mad
[02:40] <shadox> doesn't work
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> shadox: libmad0
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> !info libmad0
[02:41] <ubotu> libmad0: (MPEG audio decoder library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.15.1b-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 75 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[02:41] <shadox> lol
[02:41] <shadox> nice bot =D
[02:41] <andrei> nice bot :)
[02:41] <andrei> :)
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> it's not my bot.  Ubotu's been around here a long time
[02:42] <andrei> hello Ubotu
[02:42] <topyli> shadox: a solution for mp3 is to keep away from it. if you want to listen to them with rhythmbox, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:42] <shadox> when i do gstreamer-mad it sais "E: no package found"
[02:42] <yo2lux> which command in ubuntu add glib2?
[02:42] <shadox> i installed xmms
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> shadox: that's because you're spelling it wrong.  It's gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:42] <yo2lux> apt-get install glib and glib2 not work
[02:42] <Boxedman> Greetings alll
[02:42] <Boxedman> Is it possible to create a linux software raid after installation?
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> shadox: why don't you use synaptic?  It's graphical-- you can browse through the packages and such
[02:42] <topyli> shadox: then you don't need to worry about gstreamer either
[02:43] <bigfoot1> can anyone tell me how to open a Windows Meta File (.wmf)?
[02:43] <shadox> but xmms doesn't work
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: try using windows =P
[02:43] <Boxedman> I've got the system I want on /dev/sda, I want it tobe mirrored with linux SW raid on /dev/sdb
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: open it in a text editor-- is there anything readable in there?
[02:43] <shadox> i got a 32 gig mp3 collection on my windows partition, but when i'm exercing ubuntu i 'd like to listen to my music
[02:43] <topyli> shadox: i don't know what xmms uses. i guess it has its own mp3 plugin
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: I think sometimes they have URLs, but I don't recall
[02:44] <bigfoot1> tiglionabbit: i think it's supposed to be a roadmap
[02:44] <mike-e> is there any other windows manager out there, besides gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox?
[02:44] <bigfoot1> tiglionabbit: let me try it.
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> mike-e: of course, there are millions
[02:44] <topyli> shadox: look like it's xmms-mad
[02:44] <shadox> topyli right, but altaught it doesn't seem to work
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> mike-e: matchbox, icewm, evil, blackbox, uh...   but those are probably the best you listed there
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> mike-e: oh and can't forget enlightenment
[02:45] <Kibou> andrei: try http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Compiling_Linux_DCpp
[02:45] <mike-e> ugh enlightenment
[02:45] <rosen> What is the command for showing all processes listed after cpu-usage ? .. I remember getting it but...
[02:45] <bigfoot1> anybody running a windows box?
[02:45] <bigfoot1> anybody running a windows box NOW
[02:45] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: uh, I've got a VM
[02:45] <andrei> Kibou, thanks a lot
[02:45] <mike-e> tiglionabbit: what's a decent one that's lightweight but pleasent looking?
[02:45] <mike-e> xfce's taskbar pisses me off
[02:45] <topyli> shadox: open up the xmms preferences dialog and see if there's a mp3 plugin
[02:45] <chicano-> can any body give me the link of backports to add it in the sources.list?
[02:46] <shadox> how do i open this preferences dialog?
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> mike-e: uh, dunno.  Fluxbox is what you make it, though.  But the fluxbox packages in the ubuntu repositories aren't great
[02:46] <tiglionabbit> I'm happy with gnome.  It feels homey
[02:46] <topyli> shadox: personally i'd just get rid of the ugly dog xmms for good, but if you insist...
[02:46] <chicano-> can any body give me the link of backports to add it in the sources.list?
[02:46] <shadox> no, no, if there is another solution, i will try
[02:46] <Goshawk_> is there a way to use dpkg to search a package from one of it's files? for example dpkg -option /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 returns gcc-4.0
[02:46] <Goshawk_> ?
[02:47] <mike-e> tiglionabbit: yeah my boss made me install kubuntu, the bastard. so I installed gnome and xfce, just trying to see what else is out there
[02:47] <tiglionabbit> chicano-: whatchoo talkin bout?  You probably can find this info in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats somewhere
[02:47] <mwe> Goshawk_: use apt-file
[02:47] <shadox> it's like i'm new to ubunty from yesterday, and some people told me xmms has a mp3 plugin, but like i said is just won't work
[02:47] <Goshawk_> mwe, thx
[02:47] <mwe> Goshawk_: apt-file search foobar
[02:48] <_jason> Goshawk_, dpkg -S will work as well but apt-file let's you search packages that aren't installed too
[02:48] <topyli> shadox: try right clicking the xmms window and see if it offers you "options" or "preferences"
[02:48] <shadox> k
[02:48] <Goshawk_> _jason, mwe thanks
[02:48] <bigfoot1> tiglionabbit: did you get the link?
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[02:49] <shadox> there is a option part, but is sais things like "play, skip, next, previous" no really "options"
[02:49] <tiglionabbit> shadox: beep-media-player is like xmms but better and plays mp3s by default I think
[02:50] <shadox> hmm
[02:50] <shadox> can you tell me how to get it?
[02:50] <tiglionabbit> shadox: in fact it's like exactly the same program.  Open up synaptic and search for it, dude
[02:51] <shadox> ooh, every time i open this synaptic i receive an warning
[02:51] <tiglionabbit> what warning is it?
[02:51] <topyli> shadox: apt-get install beep-media-player. but i'm pretty sure i listened to mp3s when i was using xmms some 300 years ago
[02:51] <Ophiocus> xmms can play mps, and streams from the likes of shoutcast, another point for it
[02:51] <Ophiocus> and its gui designers really worked hard to try and make it look cool
[02:51] <tiglionabbit> Ophiocus: beep-media-player /is/ xmms
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> isn't it?
[02:52] <webwolf_27> shadox, try apt-cache search xmms-libmad or something like that
[02:52] <Goshawk_> mwe, $ apt-file search /usr/sbin/mkboot
[02:52] <shadox> dunno, like i said, i'm newby =D
[02:52] <Goshawk_> vincenzo@ubuntu:/usr/bin$
[02:52] <Goshawk_>  what's wrong?
[02:52] <topyli> Ophiocus: they sure figured out how to make it confusing. i guess it's cool then :)
[02:53] <topyli> tiglionabbit: it's a fork
[02:53] <Ophiocus> BMP is discontinued, now enjoy BMPx <= from their home site
[02:53] <Ophiocus> topyli, lol agreed, i still dont know how to save playlists
[02:53] <Ophiocus> :P
[02:53] <topyli> great. why don't they just fix xmms? :)
[02:54] <webwolf_27> xmms can play mp3, but because of patent reasons a plugin is required
[02:54] <shadox> and i need that plugin
[02:54] <topyli> Ophiocus: i seem to remember you just right click the playlist window and save it into a file somewhere
[02:54] <shadox> :d
[02:54] <shadox> apt-get results in an source list error
[02:55] <Ophiocus> it does, bet then fails to play back the file
[02:55] <shadox> for now, no beep-media-player for me :'(
[02:55] <webwolf_27> shadox, exactly, do a search for xmms-mp3 or libmad
[02:55] <shadox> how do i do that?
[02:55] <Ophiocus> xmms plays mp3 s right off the shelf
[02:55] <webwolf_27> shadox, what source list error
[02:56] <webwolf_27> Ophiocus, no it doesn't mp3 == patented
[02:56] <Ed-Gein> morning
[02:56] <andrei> audacious looks nice to me
[02:56] <gib8> hi
[02:56] <shadox> like: "could not find http://securtiy.ubuntu.com hoary .....
[02:56] <gib8> knows someone the programm seahorse?
[02:56] <QuestionMan> I have this old laptop, I want to install Ubuntu on it, but its cd drive does not work. Does anyone have any creative ideas about how I could get Ubuntu on it when its cd drive does not work?
[02:56] <_jason> gib8, what about it?
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> i see.. in tb, you can have any number of pop/imap... but you send from your location, smtp.. which would change depending on where you are.. the outgoing mail from your smtp to whoever you send to will appear as if you sent from the account smtp
[02:56] <gib8> _jason, its about gpg
[02:57] <gib8> _jason, when i sign a file, it gets filename.sig
[02:57] <topyli> shadox: there is no securtiy.ubuntu.com. is there a typo in your sources.list or did you just misspell it now? :)
[02:57] <Ed-Gein> QuestionMan : what about floppy disks
[02:57] <webwolf_27> shodox, TEMPORARLY comment out that line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <shadox> w8
[02:57] <gib8> and its normly opend with "verify signature" but i can never view the original file
[02:57] <shadox> hmm, no, better not paste the line in this window
[02:58] <QuestionMan> Ed-Gein: How many floppy will I need to get Ubuntu without any packages (I can d/l those once I have Ubuntu)?
[02:58] <gib8> is this normal?
[02:58] <Ed-Gein> shadox try #flood
[02:58] <shadox> http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu packages (/var ...
[02:58] <_jason> gib8, not sure, I always just used the gedit integration to view gpg signed messages.  haven't tried it with files
[02:58] <shadox> and lot's of these lines
[02:59] <shadox> #flood?
[02:59] <Ed-Gein> QuestionMan : I have no idea. I've never tried to do it but I would think it can be done
[02:59] <gib8> _jason, ah okay
[02:59] <QuestionMan> Ed-Gein: Also, how about a boot floppy that will enable USB and then use a USB drive to get Ubuntu.
[02:59] <QuestionMan> Ed-Gein: Can you link me to where you saw this?
[03:00] <topyli> shadox: yes. /join #flood, type apt-get update in a terminal and paste the whole error there
[03:00] <tiglionabbit> QuestionMan: it's on the wiki, under UserDocumentation in installation methods
[03:00] <QuestionMan> tiglionabbit: Thank you. I will have a look.
[03:01] <shadox> k
[03:01] <shadox> but it is in dutch
[03:01] <shadox> :)
[03:01] <tiglionabbit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation  there you go.  Check out the advanced methods down there
[03:01] <shadox> anyway i'll paste it
[03:01] <jono> hi all
[03:01] <jono> is there a way I can restore a specific file from a package? I need to restore the tveeprom kernel module from the 2.6.12-9 kernel
[03:01] <rosen> Can anyone remember the correct way to make the shell list all the processes sorted by CPU-Usage ?... or maybe there is another way to do it in Ubuntu ? (like using the GUI)
[03:02] <shadox> pasted :)
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> jono: what do you mean by restore?
[03:02] <Ed-Gein> QuestionMan : try poking around in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:02] <tiglionabbit> jono: there's a reinstall option in apt, which leaves your configuration alone I believe
[03:03] <jono> tiglionabbit, well, I have inadvertently deleted the module, and I need to get it back - but I don't want to reinstall the entire kernel
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> oh...
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[03:03] <jono> :)
[03:03] <shadox> topyli: i did post the error :)
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> that sounds tender.  But maybe reinstall would work...  I don't know
[03:04] <robotgeek> jono: reinstalling should work? apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[03:06] <mgedmin> rosen, top?
[03:06] <mgedmin> rosen, gnome-system-monitor if you want GUI
[03:06] <rosen> mgedmin, yeah I just found it ... man Java is a pain ... Can't understand why it have to be so heavy on ressources, even when it's not used
[03:07] <tiglionabbit> it's because of all the things it handles at runtime so it can yell at developers about things
[03:08] <mcjerry> can anyone help me with LIRC remote in ubuntu?
[03:08] <_jason> gib8, okay I just encrypted and decrypted a file using nautilus' right click -> encrypt, is that what you were talking about?
[03:09] <gib8> _jason, now its going about only signatrue, but i found out, that it builds a new file with the sig
[03:09] <rosen> tiglionabbit, well is there no way to silence all that yelling without disabling java completely ?
[03:10] <slashx1896> hey all
[03:10] <slashx1896> how do i get shockwave for ubuntu?
[03:10] <Ed-Gein> hey
[03:10] <Ed-Gein> you read the wiki
[03:10] <tiglionabbit> rosen: not that I know of.  I don't really like Sun all that much.  OpenOffice is nice, but I try to avoid java applet things =P
[03:10] <_jason> gib8, yeah I think the .sig is just the signature to verify the original file.
[03:10] <tiglionabbit> slashx1896: firefox should let you install it when you go to a page that needs it
[03:11] <gib8> _jason, yes seems so
[03:11] <slashx1896> firefox is messed for me.. so ive been using epiphany
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> slashx1896: just click on the puzzle piece icon it shows where flash should be.  And uh, make sure you say yes at the agreement thing
[03:11] <Ed-Gein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=flash&titlesearch=Titles
[03:11] <_jason> slashx1896, I don't believe you can get shockwave, just flash
[03:11] <tiglionabbit> slashx1896: oh, in that case, um..   I don't think there is any stand-alone player so you're out of luck
[03:11] <slashx1896> on epiphany the puzzle pc thing comes up and i click on it and nothing happens
[03:12] <funkyHat> guys... macromedia don't develop a shockwave player for linux
[03:12] <rosen> tiglionabbit, think I'll follow your example ;)
[03:12] <tiglionabbit> Ed-Gein: hehe, oh how'd you know I wrote that wiki page?
[03:12] <Ed-Gein> tiglionabbit : I didn't
[03:12] <tiglionabbit> I mean rosen
[03:12] <Ed-Gein> lol
[03:13] <tiglionabbit> yeah, heh, I wrote that a while ago
[03:13] <tiglionabbit> =P seemed fun at the time.  Yeah, emulating flash works pretty well
[03:14] <tiglionabbit> you can probably emulate a shockwave player too
[03:14] <Ed-Gein> damn I think my sea anenome died
[03:15] <tiglionabbit> you have a pet anemone?
[03:15] <slashx1896> lol
[03:15] <Ed-Gein> in a tank yes
[03:15] <mg> hi, i just plugged in a usb drive that normally works fine. it automounted (as usual) but this time it's a read only file system.
[03:15] <Ed-Gein> with several colonies of coral and a few fish
[03:15] <jono> is there a way to forceably kill processes?
[03:16] <mg> mount says it's got the "rw" option, i have permissions to write to the directory, etc
[03:16] <Ed-Gein> kill
[03:16] <Seveas> jono, kill -9 <pid of process>
[03:16] <mg> even root cannot write to the disk
[03:16] <funkyHat> mg, unplug it and check the switch? ;)
[03:16] <jono> I need to remove a kernel module and can't do it
[03:16] <mg> funkyHat: there is no switch
[03:16] <funkyHat> oh
[03:16] <mg> it's a jukebox. it's always "just worked"
[03:16] <jono> Seveas, doesnt work
[03:17] <Seveas> mg, do an fsck.vfat on the drive
[03:17] <mg> Seveas: ok ...
[03:17] <Ed-Gein> what module are you trying to stop from loading
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> jono: kill -9 has to work (aka "kill -KILL").  To get the pid, do a "ps aux | grep theprogramname"
[03:17] <jono> Ed-Gein, ivtv modules
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> jono: and never say "doesn't work".  Tell us why it doesn't work
[03:17] <tiglionabbit> or at least how
[03:17] <afd_> hi! I wonder if anyone knows about audiowrapper, it's needed for gizmo
[03:17] <jono> tiglionabbit, I did that, and when I try to kill it with -9, it stays in the process list
[03:18] <tiglionabbit> jono: what is it?
[03:18] <jono> tiglionabbit, tv card drivers
[03:18] <tiglionabbit> *shrug*
[03:18] <mg> Seveas: hmm, seeing some "Long filename fragment ... found outside a LFN sequence ((Maybe the start bit is missing on the last fragment))" errors.
[03:18] <jono> I need to rename a kernel module, but cant do that until I have killed all the processes and unloaded the module
[03:19] <Ed-Gein> I don't remember what file ubuntu uses for autoloading modules but figure that out and remove it from the list
[03:21] <ocool> hallo zusammen
[03:22] <james> can anyone in herehelp me with ndiswrapper and setting up my wireless card
[03:22] <james> i am haveing some trouble
[03:22] <mg> Seveas: gah! tried to fix them with fsck.vfat and got a seg fault :-/
[03:22] <mahangu> james, shoot, what's wrong?
[03:23] <james> i can not seem to get WT(wireless tools to install) and I can not figure hot to use the NDISwrapper
[03:23] <james> i have a ACX100 chipset that is a NWP11B wlan card
[03:23] <james> it powers up...but Ubuntu does not regonize it
[03:23] <james> so i need to config it
[03:23] <james> but i get lost in the process
[03:23] <mg> Seveas: ok, looks like i need to rescue the disk somehow. thanks for the hint.
[03:23] <james> so right  now i am on the 3com wired card
[03:25] <Ed-Gein> baah this upgrade is taking a month of sundays
[03:26] <nadira> if one removes a link in /usr/bin like java. could it create a mess in the system?
[03:26] <james> mahangu did you get all that
[03:26] <juanwalker> Hey guys, wich one is firefox update source?
[03:27] <mahangu> james, are you following a HOWTO?
[03:28] <james> yes
[03:28] <james> it wont let me use the make  command
[03:28] <james> so i can not cont the how to
[03:28] <james> and i am not sure how to install the wt file
[03:28] <james> it is a bz2 file
[03:28] <james> take that bake it is a gz
[03:29] <james> i know it is a tarbal file
[03:29] <james> but i am not sure how to get it to install
[03:29] <ikkinu> hi all, does anyone use freepops with firewall?
[03:29] <thias> tag
[03:29] <Zen> back
[03:29] <thias> whats up?
[03:29] <Zen> any hope for a Prism GT based card in ubuntu?
[03:29] <rraajj> james: Have you extracted it yet?
[03:30] <james> useing the tar command
[03:30] <adam_> help! my monitor keeps going blank every 2min, i have to manually shut my pc off to get it to come back on
[03:30] <james> i will redo it right now
[03:30] <james> to make sure i am doing it right
[03:30] <james> what is the tar command again
[03:30] <tiglionabbit> adam_: is this on a laptop?
[03:30] <james> =) i am still a newbi
[03:30] <Ed-Gein> _jason: did you cd into the new directory before make
[03:30] <Zen> adam_: when it goes blank, can you Alt-F2 to see a console?
[03:30] <adam_> no
[03:30] <rraajj> james: Yes. If it's a BZ2 Ball, tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2
[03:30] <james> ok
[03:30] <adam_> no
[03:30] <james> brb
[03:30] <_jason> Ed-Gein, not sure what you are referring to
[03:31] <nadira> iam really tired of the locales and libc6 problems i have. can someone please tell me how to fix locales. warning that appear all the time i compile or install something
[03:31] <james> ok how do i find them in terminal
[03:31] <_jason> Ed-Gein, what are you trying to compile
[03:31] <james> they are on the desktop
[03:31] <james> should i move the file before i tar it
[03:31] <adam_> zen: no
[03:31] <Ed-Gein> after you unpack the file with tar blah blah blah cd into the new directory and then run your configure and make commands
[03:31] <rraajj> james: You could go into the desktop directory. cd Desktop/
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> nadira: run system -> admin -> language selector and pick some places out
[03:31] <Zen> adam_: I can't help you then--sorry
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> nadira: is this on breezy?
[03:32] <_jason> Ed-Gein, yes, navigate to the directory
[03:32] <james> ok
[03:32] <james> now what is the tar command for just a gz file
[03:32] <adam_> tiglionabbit: no its not a laptop
[03:32] <Stormchaser> 'lo. Is there a 'non-free' repository-lik in Debian? I want unrar, but can't find it :/
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> james: tar xvzf
[03:33] <rraajj> james: Just a .gz? No .tar?
[03:33] <adam_> zen: thanks anyway
[03:33] <_jason> !info unrar-nonfree
[03:33] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> james: oh, gunzip
[03:33] <Ed-Gein> tar -zxvf blah blah
[03:33] <rraajj> james: If it's just in .gz, I think it's gunzip.
[03:33] <_jason> Stormchaser, multiverse, there is also universe
[03:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell Stormchaser about repos
[03:33] <james> no it is a tar.gz
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> james: then tar xvzf
[03:33] <james> ok brb
[03:33] <Stormchaser> lemme see
[03:33] <Ed-Gein> don't forget the hyphen
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> x is for extract, v is for verbose, z is for gzip, f is for the file you're giving it
[03:34] <rraajj> james: then follow Ed-Gein or tiglionabbit 's instructions. :)
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> Ed-Gein: the hyphon is not necessary
[03:34] <Ed-Gein> tiglionabbit : thanks I was under hte impression it was
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> Ed-Gein: in fact, tar tends to prefer it without a hyphon-- you can specify the options in any order if you omit it
[03:34] <Ed-Gein> learn somehting new every day
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> ya tar is weird and old.  The manual talks about tape drives...
[03:36] <Ed-Gein> jame should be back any second now
[03:36] <Ed-Gein> james*
[03:37] <james> ok i got the file extracted
[03:37] <Ed-Gein> woohooo
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> hooray!  *throws confetti*
[03:37] <Ed-Gein> no cd into the new directory
[03:37] <james> ok
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> james: what are you gonna do now?  (what is it anyway?)
[03:38] <james> what you mean what is it
[03:38] <james> i just extracted the wireless tools
[03:38] <rraajj> tiglionabbit: I think he's trying to compile something.
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> ah
[03:38] <james> i am trying to get my wirelss card to work
[03:38] <james> i am gona have to use NDISWRAPPER
[03:38] <james> caues it is a network everywhere NWP11B
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> don't forget to read the text files and scripts that are in all capital letters, like README or INSTALL
[03:39] <james> ok i am in the directory now what do i do
[03:40] <Ed-Gein> you should read the readme but you probably start with ./configure
[03:40] <lordjohnny> Somebody Spanish?
[03:40] <james> i am reading the install file
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> james: first you look at the files and see if there's files in there with the names README, configure, automake.sh, Makefile, INSTALL, or the like
[03:40] <james> give me a min
[03:41] <Seveas> !es
[03:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:41] <james> there is all four of those files
[03:41] <Ed-Gein> use the command ls to view the files via the cli
[03:41] <lordjohnny> How I can update java 1,4,2 to 1.5?
[03:41] <james> how come my make install command is not workig
[03:41] <Seveas> lordjohnny, grab a java 1.5 deb
[03:42] <Ed-Gein> did you run ./configure first
[03:42] <rraajj> james: You'll have to compile it first before installing.
[03:42] <james> ok.......how the **** do i do that
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> james: yeah.  Usually "make install" just copies the finished product into place when you're done.
[03:42] <Seveas> !tell james about compiling
[03:42] <rraajj> james: ./configure first. If it didn't spit out any errors, compile it with 'make'.
[03:42] <james> make dont exist
[03:42] <lordjohnny> Seveas,  grab=download ?
[03:42] <james> command not found
[03:42] <Seveas> lordjohnny, yes
[03:43] <_jason> james, install build-essential
[03:43] <Seveas> james, read what ubotu told you..
[03:43] <Ed-Gein> james: ./configure -> make -> make install-> make clean
[03:43] <lordjohnny> thanks
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> james: first you run configure, which checks your computer for the required things you need to compile it.  Then you run "make" and it compiles it.  After all that, you do a make install to put it where it should go
[03:43] <james> so first cmd i type is configure
[03:43] <hostix> hey i trying to compile my sound driver but i get "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:43] <hostix> "
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> james: if there is a configure file in there, that's what we're trying to run.  If it's not executable, try saying "sh configure" instead, or chmod +x configure to make it executable and then ./configure
[03:43] <hostix> does any one know how i can fix this
[03:44] <Ed-Gein> sort of its actually ./confige
[03:44] <james> ok
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> hostix: get th epackage build-essential
[03:44] <Ed-Gein> ./configure
[03:44] <Seveas> !tell hostix about compiling
[03:44] <james> ok none of those worked
[03:44] <Ungy_> what is the next version after breezy?
[03:44] <james> tig can you PM me
[03:44] <Ed-Gein> ./configure didn't work?
[03:44] <james> the screen keeps moveing and i am loosing what i am seeing
[03:44] <binks> if i want to install someting from debian unstable what should i add to sources.list
[03:44] <Seveas> Ungy_, Dapper Drake
[03:44] <binks> i want to install gutenprint btw
[03:45] <Seveas> binks, nothing
[03:45] <hostix> tiglionabbit,  thx
[03:45] <binks> ?
[03:45] <Ungy_> Seveas so sources.list I can add Dapper?
[03:45] <Seveas> Ungy_, no, you should not use dapper yet
[03:45] <Ed-Gein> james has configure finished? Did it give you any errors?
[03:45] <Seveas> binks, mixing debian and ubuntu is a recipe for disaster
[03:45] <Ungy_> Seveas, why is it in horrible shape?
[03:45] <binks> seveas howcome i need gutenprint and its not in synaptic now
[03:46] <Seveas> Ungy_, it's in heavy development...
[03:46] <binks> so how can i install gutenprint
[03:46] <MoonRanger> !mp3
[03:46] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:46] <Seveas> binks, apt-get source it from debin and recompile
[03:46] <james> yea command not found
[03:46] <james> i tried <configure, sh configure, and chmod +x
[03:46] <james> nthing worked
[03:46] <Ungy_> Seveas, ahh so It is in worse shape then Debian/SID(what I normally use) is?
[03:46] <binks> i dont follow you if its not found in synaptic how will apt get it
[03:47] <Seveas> james, read what ubotu told you instead of pestering us with questions that are answered by what ubotu tolf
[03:47] <james> and i did sudo -s  so i was root
[03:47] <Seveas> Ungy_, yes
[03:47] <james> i read it
[03:47] <james> and that is what it said to do
[03:47] <james> but nothing is working
[03:47] <Ungy_> binks you get the source from Debian package and tehn you compile it yourself
[03:47] <rraajj> james: Is there even a configure file inside the directory?
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> james: the command will be found if the file is there
[03:48] <james> let me lok
[03:48] <binks> i have source from guten site but i cant see new driver when i try to install printer thru system admin printer
[03:48] <Ed-Gein> I wondering if he made it into the directory
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> james: a file is a command is a file
[03:48] <james> i dont see it
[03:48] <james> there is some file with the word confg in it
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> james: then it's not there =P.  Is there an automake.sh?
[03:48] <binks> i did ./configure make make install
[03:48] <james> ok
[03:48] <Ungy_> Seveas, ahh oh well was trying to upgrade my OOffice GUess I will just reboot into SID thanks
[03:49] <james> where is that file at
[03:49] <rraajj> Maybe there's no need for configurations. After installing make, try running it at once.
[03:49] <james> how do i run it just type the cammand i want to use
[03:49] <Ed-Gein> james type in pwd and give us the output
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> there a program that reads .vcf ?
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> Ed-Gein: =P how would that help.  I think an ls would be more useful at the moment
[03:50] <lordjohnny> Seveas,  I can't find java 1,5 deb
[03:50] <_null> CaptainMorgan, I think evolution does
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> I know TB does... but how many people have it..
[03:50] <Ed-Gein> tiglionabbit : just trying to make sure he actually made it to the right place
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> lordjohnny: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java -- go to the building your own section
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> I mean the part where you get it from sun
[03:50] <funkyHat> CaptainMorgan, .vcf?
[03:51] <DUNFreak> Heh. Well I finally got these partitions to work... It required a transfer of most of my data (and deletion of some) to my fiance's computer, and a complete reinstallation of ubuntu... but it worked!
[03:51] <funkyHat> Is that that contact card thing?
[03:51] <james> /home/james/desktop/wireless_tools.27 = pwd
[03:51] <pesco> Hi, how do I blank a DVD-RW with Ubuntu?
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> pesco: try using k3b
[03:51] <pesco> Or, just overwrite it with something new, for that matter.
[03:51] <Ed-Gein> james: now ls -a
[03:52] <james> ok i can see all the files in the wirelesstools dir
[03:52] <ifZZ> hello, pplz!
[03:52] <pesco> The obvious way of "insert, mark all files, press delete" didn't work...
[03:52] <ifZZ> Can someone help me?
[03:52] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, ask away
[03:52] <pesco> ifZZ: Not until you tell us your problem... *hint*
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> pesco: there's an option on the menus
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> pesco: in k3b
[03:53] <ifZZ> I have problem with Mozilla Thunderbird
[03:53] <olipaul> hi all. does anyone know what package provides sendmail headers? i've got postfix-devel installed, but trying to build gaim returns an error when trying to link against it
[03:53] <mwe> ifZZ: and what is the problem?
[03:53] <ifZZ> i downloaded it from mozilla.org
[03:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell ifZZ about enter
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> !q ubotu
[03:53] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: What?
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> oops
[03:53] <Ed-Gein> james: is there a readme in there?
[03:53] <james> yes i read it
[03:54] <ifZZ> when i installed it, it says that i have no libstdc++.s0.5
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> james: what did it tell you to do?  It probably has some instructions
[03:54] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, did you try just installing it from Synaptic?
[03:54] <pesco> tiglionabbit: Well, I would kind of like to avoid having to install kdebase and so on.
[03:54] <james> it said to make, make install
[03:54] <Ed-Gein> james: what did it say for installation instructions
[03:54] <james> and that is not working
[03:54] <rraajj> There we go.
[03:54] <ifZZ> DUNfreak, i can't. because i have not my modem drivers
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> pesco: shame, k3b is fun times.  How about that gnome burning program?  gnomebake
[03:54] <rraajj> james: You just need the GNU development tools.
[03:55] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, you mean you have no internet connection on the machine?
[03:55] <Seveas> james, if you don't READ THE DOCUMENTATION we can't help you
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> pesco: you wont be able to do this from nautilus I don't think..  just get some burning software
[03:55] <james> ok????
[03:55] <Seveas> read that wikipage, do what it says
[03:55] <james> how do i get the GNU dev tools
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> james: what did it tell you to do?
[03:55] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, you mean you have no internet connection on the machine?
[03:55] <mwe> ifZZ: then install libstdc++5
[03:55] <vmware> hello , every one
[03:55] <james> i thought i did tell you i read the readme and install
[03:56] <tiglionabbit> james: surely it didn't ask you to make install first, because you have to do a regular make before that, and you have to configure somehow before you do that
[03:56] <Seveas> sigh...
[03:56] <ifZZ> where i can find libstdc++5
[03:56] <ifZZ> i am newbie in ubuntu & linux also
[03:56] <tiglionabbit> ifZZ: open system -> admin -> synaptic and search for it
[03:56] <robotgeek> ifZZ: search in synaptic
[03:56] <hostix> gcc cant understand MODULE_**** functions what can i do about this?
[03:56] <Jxpx> s/j ubuntu-cl
[03:56] <Jxpx> sorry
[03:57] <robotgeek> hostix: maybe a different gcc version is needed?
[03:57] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, if you have no internet connection to make Synaptic work, you won't have it to use thunderbird either ;)
[03:57] <james> it was Make, Make Install in that order
[03:57] <davix> how can I change my monitor refresh rate in x?
[03:57] <hostix> robotgeek, i have the newest
[03:57] <_jason> james, what exactly are you compiling?
[03:57] <Seveas> davix, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <Seveas> hostix, gcc-3.5 is needed
[03:57] <Seveas> 3.4 I mean
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> james: what happened when you did make?
[03:58] <dbzdeath> how can i reset the alsamixer settings to default?
[03:58] <james> wireless tools 2.7
[03:58] <davix> Seveas, what exactly do I add/change
[03:58] <james> it said command not found
[03:58] <tiglionabbit> james: oh, you'll need the build-essential package
[03:58] <Delvien> Hey guys, how do i change what MUSIC PLAYER launches from the keyboard shortcut ???
[03:58] <Seveas> james, for the 4th time: read that wikipage
[03:58] <Seveas> and do what it says
[03:58] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, it's hopeless, he doe not listen
[03:58] <ifZZ> DUNFreak: I find drivers for my modem, tomorrow i will install it
[03:59] <tiglionabbit> dbzdeath: um, I suppose you could purge it from your system, and reinstall it
[03:59] <limaunion> Hi, I've a second harddrive with an ntfs filesystem, i can't access it because of 'permission denied'. I tried with chmod 555 /media/hdc2 but it didn't help. any tip ?
[03:59] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, once you have your modem and internet working, then you can use Synaptic to download and install Mozilla (and anything else you want)
[03:59] <DUNFreak> limaunion, did you mount it ?
[04:00] <mefiX> hi!
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> limaunion: you can't chmod it.  You have to mount it for a particular user, using gid=1000,pid=1000 for the first user, or the particular user number
[04:00] <ifZZ> but.. i can't fix problem with libstdc++.so.5?
[04:00] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, Synaptic will check dependencies and install anything that is needed by thunderbird
[04:00] <hostix> Seveas,  apt-get cant find gcc-3.5
[04:00] <mwe> limaunion: You nedd umask=0222 under option, probably
[04:00] <limaunion> DUNFreak, yes, when I mount it the file is root owned
[04:00] <funkyHat> tiglionabbit, user name also works
[04:00] <Seveas> hostix, 3.4
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> limaunion: you can add these to the options in your fstab file.  Alternatively, you could become root while browsing it using the "sudo -s" command
[04:00] <mefiX> im trying to boot ubuntu from the install/live-dvd and my dvd-rom drive doesn't want to boot from the disc, is there any possibility to boot from floppy?
[04:00] <Seveas> hostix, if you had actually read that compiling page you would have seen that already
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> that's a short term solution
[04:00] <limaunion> mwe: thanks will try that
[04:00] <hostix> Seveas, i get the same errors with 3.4
[04:01] <Delvien> Seveas do you know how to change what player is opened when using the keyboard shortcut built into gnome??
[04:01] <olipaul> hi all. does anyone know what package provides sendmail headers? i've got postfix-devel installed, but trying to build gaim returns an error when trying to link against it
[04:01] <DUNFreak> limaunion, oh sorry I saw /dev/hdc2 and not /media. What you could do is: sudo chown /media/hdc2 user:user
[04:01] <limaunion> tiglionabbit: yes, but that's not what i want, I'll try the umask setting, thanks
[04:01] <DUNFreak> where user is your own username in ubuntu
[04:01] <ifZZ> DUNFreak, Can u explain in two words what is Automatix?
[04:01] <Seveas> Delvien, no
[04:01] <Ed-Gein> problem with upgrade to breezy Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[04:01] <Ed-Gein> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[04:01] <Ed-Gein> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[04:01] <Ed-Gein> command:
[04:01] <Ed-Gein> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[04:01] <Ed-Gein> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[04:01] <DUNFreak> oops sorry wrong order: sudo chown user:user /media/hdc2
[04:01] <HappyFool> olipaul: tried using 'apt-get build-dep gaim' ?
[04:01] <limaunion> DUNFreak: ok
[04:02] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, Not sure. Try googling it ;)
[04:02] <ifZZ> DUNFreak, okey, thx :)
[04:02] <olipaul> HappyFool, i'll have a go, thanks
[04:03] <thegladiator> hi
[04:03] <tiglionabbit> hello gladiator
[04:03] <thegladiator> firefox is really buggy
[04:03] <ifZZ> DUNFreak, Ooops.. i just remember that i have problems with k3b. it can't find libk3bdevise.so.2
[04:03] <limaunion> mwe: umask=0222 solved the problem, thanks!
[04:03] <thegladiator> atleast on this system
[04:03] <mwe> limaunion: good
[04:03] <ifZZ> DUNFreak, Also use synaptic? :D
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> thegladiator: hm.  Is this on breezy?
[04:04] <mwe> permissions of mount point have no effect when mounting. only options to mount
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> I know the version in hoary had its problems
[04:04] <limaunion> ok
[04:04] <nique> i'm a newbie to ubuntu... can anyone help me?
[04:04] <DUNFreak> ifZZ, maybe. I don't have all the answers, I'm not even sure what k3b is :P
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> nique: sure, what's your question?
[04:05] <mwe> sigh
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> DUNFreak: it's a cd/dvd burning program
[04:05] <nique> my display is black on 1/8 the screen... is it a driver issue?
[04:05] <ifZZ> DUNFreak, it is a cd/dvd nurning program
[04:05] <DUNFreak> lol
[04:05] <_jason> nique, ask a question, and we can try
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> and the problem he has is with the linking library..    which should be there if you installed it from the repositories..
[04:05] <joni_cap> who speak spanish?
[04:06] <_jason> !es
[04:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:06] <joni_cap> gracias
[04:06] <_jason> no problemo
[04:06] <u|qos> can somebody help me, with the following expression? the OR in it is only for a better understanding. cat /etc/proftpd.conf | grep -v "</Limit>" OR "</Global>" > ~/tmp.write
[04:06] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: well, can u help me with k3b?
[04:06] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: it can't find libk3bdevice.so.2?
[04:06] <u|qos> it simply want to remove the lines of the files that match the first or the second expression ...
[04:06] <tiglionabbit> ifZZ: sure.  Go to /usr/lib and tell me if there's anything that starts with libk3bdevice.so but has different numbers on the end
[04:07] <DUNFreak> Personally I'd mostly use gnome tools (apt-get install k3b tells me it's gonna install 115 megs of stuff... LOL)
[04:07] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: it can't find libk3bdevice.so.2?
[04:07] <nique> my display is black on 1/8 the screen... is it a driver issue?
[04:07] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: sorry
[04:07] <szronik> I'm having a problem with the package manager. I can't remove gnucash, I can't remove gnucash-common and libofx2 is giving me a problem because a lot of packages can't install because of it. Any ideas on what I can do?
[04:07] <szronik> nique: Is it black when you boot up the computer?
[04:07] <nique> yep
[04:07] <Amaranth> szronik: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:08] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: i am not in ibuntu know, i am on windows, because i can't install my modem drivers. Today i think i will install it
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> ifZZ: or more specifically, just use the command "ls /usr/lib/bk3bdevice*
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> ifZZ: oh..  um, well I can't guide you through fixing this if you're not in front of it
[04:08] <nique> scronik: yes
[04:08] <szronik> nique: Then it doesn't look like a driver issue.
[04:08] <_jason> u|qos, are you having an issue with it?
[04:08] <szronik> nique:  Is it a CRT or LCD display?
[04:09] <nique> lcd
[04:09] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: ok, today i will install modem drivers
[04:09] <szronik> Amaranth: I still get errors.
[04:09] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: if i can't of course :)
[04:09] <szronik> nique: VGA or DVI input?
[04:09] <Amaranth> szronik: I have ESP so I already know what errors.
[04:09] <Amaranth> szronik: :)
[04:09] <nique> vga
[04:09] <tiglionabbit> ifZZ: you mean if you can, right? =P
[04:09] <szronik> Amaranth: ESP?
[04:09] <u|qos> _jason? its for change the configuration of my ftp server
[04:10] <szronik> nique: Could be a signal error, or the monitor itself.
[04:10] <Amaranth> szronik: nm, it was a joke. You need to say what error you're getting
[04:10] <szronik> nique: But it's definitely not driver related if you get it on boot-up.
[04:10] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: yes, sorry for my bad english i am russian :)
[04:10] <Amaranth> szronik: if it's more than 2 lines use pastebin
[04:10] <_jason> u|qos, if I understand you correctly you want to get rid of any lines that have limit or global, just use two pipes to grep: cat blah | grep -v global | grep -v local
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> ifZZ: no problem
[04:11] <nique> thanks... I will do more research.... has anyone else had this problem?
[04:11] <nique> my display is black on 1/8 the screen... is it a driver issue?
[04:11] <ifZZ> tiglionnabbit: okey, thx. bye ;)
[04:11] <u|qos> _jason: sure ... thx
[04:11] <szronik> Amaranth: The same one you find here except it's not for powerPC: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75726.html
[04:11] <linas5> guess who has a prblem
[04:11] <linas5> =P
[04:11] <szronik> Amaranth: And I *did* go to launchpad.net and tried the workaround, which didn't work either.
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> wow... ive been missing out on these mail client things... im not talking about crappy ones like outlook, but eudora/tb etc... talk about organization!
[04:12] <Amaranth> szronik: sudo apt-get remove libofx2c102
[04:12] <linas5> how do i make ubuntu use my wifi card that ndiswrapper is setup for?
[04:12] <Amaranth> szronik: see if it wants to remove anything else when you do that
[04:12] <szronik> Amaranth: That didn't work either.
[04:13] <Amaranth> szronik: You need to be more specific. :)
[04:14] <szronik> Amaranth: Depends libofx2 but it is not going to be instaled
[04:14] <szronik> Amaranth: installed
[04:14] <Amaranth> szronik: err
[04:14] <Amaranth> szronik: what does it say about libofx2c102?
[04:14] <szronik> Amaranth: That's what I get when trying to remove libofx0c102
[04:15] <Amaranth> szronik: ok
[04:15] <pesco> How can I switch to a more light-weight kde theme when I'm using the Gnome desktop.
[04:15] <pesco> ?
[04:15] <sylvain> hello everyone
[04:15] <thegladiator> light weigh theme ?
[04:15] <nique> my display is black on 1/8 the screen... has anyone else had this problem?
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> pesco: what does that question even mean?
[04:15] <Amaranth> szronik: sudo apt-get remove libofx2 libofx0c102 gnucash gnucash-common
[04:15] <thegladiator> kde themes are for kde only
[04:15] <pesco> tiglionabbit: It means, I don't like the look of KDE. Can I change it?
[04:15] <Amaranth> szronik: we need to get all of those out of the dpkg database so it'll stop failing on them until we get things fixed
[04:16] <linas5> i have ndiswrapper setup like: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#1_-_Install_Ubuntu_Hoary that, but when i do iwconfig or anything else my wifi card doesnt showup
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about eciadsl?
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> pesco: while using gnome?
[04:16] <thegladiator> pesco, neither do i
[04:16] <szronik> Amaranth: So the gnucash bug hasn't been fixed yet?
[04:16] <thegladiator> pesco, hence i started using gnome which looks fine
[04:16] <Amaranth> szronik: we're working on it right now :P
[04:16] <szronik> Amaranth: Hmm, this seems to have worked, why?
[04:16] <sylvain> i want a know how to compile program source with ubunt 5.10
[04:16] <thegladiator> amarnath ji > are you workin on ububntu project ?
[04:16] <Amaranth> szronik: because gnucash, gnucash-common, and libofx2 were half-installed in the dpkg database
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> pesco: I'm sure you can change it.  Go to kde-look.org and download different styles, and use the konfigurator to change the way things look
[04:17] <pesco> tiglionabbit: Yes, I don't have any magical "change kde theme" button in my gnome menue (afaict).
[04:17] <Amaranth> szronik: so it kept trying to fix them
[04:17] <pesco> tiglionabbit: konfigurator?
[04:17] <szronik> Amaranth: Elaborate please. So why wasn't I able to remove each one individually?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> pesco: why don't you just go into gnome and do it?
[04:17] <thegladiator> Amarnath > are you a indian ?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> pesco: I mean kde
[04:17] <Amaranth> szronik: because each one depended on another
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> that would make sense to me
[04:17] <thegladiator> have been to amarnath ?
[04:17] <Amaranth> thegladiator: nope
[04:17] <thegladiator> oh ok :D
[04:17] <szronik> Amaranth: I see.
[04:17] <pesco> tiglionabbit: Because I have this giant session of terminals and other programs running. Also on principle.
[04:17] <DUNFreak> pesco: if you're using GNOME, you're not looking at KDE themes... unless I really missed something obvious.
[04:17] <szronik> Amaranth: Thank you very much for your help :)
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> anyone?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> pesco: the configuration thing for kde
[04:18] <thegladiator> pesco, so you are using kde / gnome now ?
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> pesco: uhh...   oh I know--  Applications -> system tools -> new login
[04:18] <Amaranth> szronik: libofx2 should have had a Conflicts with libofx0c102 so an upgrade from hoary would work, but this should fix it for you
[04:18] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about eciadsl???????
[04:18] <Enquest> I used to look at http://www.apple.com/trailers/ but apple changed something and now some trailers play al at once like  King Kong http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/king_kong/ and http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/king_kong/hd/
[04:18] <thegladiator> Amaranth, have you eflt anything buggy with firefox ?
[04:18] <pesco> Jesus Maria. Yes, I'm using Gnome. And I'm running a KDE /application/ (k3b - as suggested by tig).
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> pesco: that'll allow you to run kde and gnome at the same time.  Use the control-alt-F# keys to switch between them
[04:18] <spanglesontoast> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:18] <Amaranth> spanglesontoast: never heard of it
[04:18] <Amaranth> thegladiator: nope
[04:18] <thegladiator> i have had a whole lot of problems with firefox in this machine
[04:18] <spanglesontoast> hmmmm
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> pesco: oh, you want to change the theme on k3b in gnome, I see
[04:19] <Enquest> how do you solve this?
[04:19] <Amaranth> thegladiator: just the occasional crash
[04:19] <Amaranth> thegladiator: most firefox problems are extension problems
[04:19] <DUNFreak> spanglesontoast, if no one answers... maybe they have no clue.
[04:19] <tiglionabbit> pesco: =P sorry, I didn't figure that out
[04:19] <thegladiator> Amaranth, exactly occasional crash
[04:19] <Amaranth> thegladiator: it happens
[04:19] <thegladiator> and off late the tenedency to hang at some sites
[04:19] <spanglesontoast> well I was wondering why lots of people type loads in
[04:19] <Amaranth> thegladiator: it'll crash maybe once a week for me
[04:19] <MoonRanger> is thier a graphical GUI for FTP in ubuntu
[04:19] <Amaranth> MoonRanger: nautilus does it
[04:19] <pesco> So I have to start KDE in order to switch the theme for an application I'm running without the KDE desktop itself. Bleh.
[04:19] <thegladiator> Amaranth, the frequency is 1-2 times a day
[04:19] <Amaranth> MoonRanger: Places->Connect to Server
[04:20] <MoonRanger> ok
[04:20] <szronik> Yeah, Firefox always crashes on porn sites :)
[04:20] <tiglionabbit> pesco: I'm not sure..   heh sorry
[04:20] <thegladiator> i started using Mozilla Internet Application suite
[04:20] <thegladiator> szronik, does it ?
[04:20] <szronik> thegladiator: Joke.
[04:20] <thegladiator> szronik, omg !
[04:20] <thegladiator> he he
[04:20] <MoonRanger> i was hoping for a seperate one sort of like what CuteFTP, SmartFTP are like in windows
[04:20] <hostix> how can i get GCC to understand MODULE_ i use 3.4
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> pesco: if you really care, you could perhaps switch to gnomebake instead, or get the konfigurator and change the settings with that
[04:21] <DUNFreak> MoonRanger, you could search for some in Synaptic
[04:21] <thegladiator> Moz App suite has so far withstood all that FF couldnt
[04:21] <thegladiator> and i am happy with mozilla internet application suite
[04:21] <szronik> I'm going to check and see if Ubuntu detects my digital camera :)
[04:21] <thegladiator> Moz Int App Suite8.5/10  , Firefox ->5/10
[04:21] <thegladiator> szronik, it does mine
[04:22] <thegladiator> sony cybershot
[04:22] <sylvain> somebody can help me to create deb packages
[04:22] <_jason> how can I make audacity use alsa?
[04:22] <thegladiator> on USB , it detects as  a USB device
[04:22] <MoonRanger> ok
[04:22] <shadox> shadox the ubuntu noob starts loving ubuntu more with every minute
[04:22] <tiglionabbit> sylvain: I'm sure it's in the manual for dpkg somewhere
[04:23] <Zen> MoonRanger: I suggest GFTP
[04:23] <DUNFreak> shadox: Cool. :D
[04:24] <_jason> ubotu, tell sylvain about checkinstall
[04:24] <shadox> but it is hard at the beginning, no doubt!! :d
[04:24] <shadox> i just installed rar
[04:24] <_jason> sylvain, /j #ubuntu-motu and read the links they have in /topic as well
[04:24] <sylvain> tank you
[04:24] <DUNFreak> shadox, depends if you're used to another linux or Windows.
[04:24] <thegladiator> when can we expect next ub release ?
[04:24] <shadox> windows
[04:24] <DUNFreak> I had some Win -> Ubuntu ajustments to make too, it's normal.
[04:24] <shadox> but it really s**ks
[04:25] <shadox> i mean windows s**ks
[04:25] <DUNFreak> That was obvious shadox :P
[04:25] <shadox> only good thing about it is the "help" function
[04:25] <SuperLag> any of you guys messed with Xen?
[04:25] <shadox> in ubuntu you are on your own when there is an error, but still you learn much more
[04:26] <DUNFreak> shadox, in ubuntu (and/or any linux distro), the help function is called Google.com :D
[04:26] <SuperLag> I would like to install Ubuntu to a domain, and I'm wondering if there's a way I can do it from my existing Linux install, to a separate partition.
[04:26] <shadox> id :d
[04:26] <shadox> or
[04:26] <shadox> ubuntuguide.org :D
[04:26] <DUNFreak> that too
[04:27] <shadox> how do you type text in red?
[04:27] <linas5> i have ndiswrapper setup like, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#1_-_Install_Ubuntu_Hoary that, but when i do iwconfig or anything else my wifi card doesnt showup
[04:27] <linas5> anyone wanna help me =P
[04:27] <Zen> anybody else wish mono had a form developer?
[04:27] <DUNFreak> shadox, that's when your name is in anyone's text.
[04:27] <shadox> aha
[04:27] <DUNFreak> if you type my name I'll see it as red. (Hint: type first few letters of a nickname and hit TAB)
[04:27] <shadox> DUNFreak, like this?
[04:27] <DUNFreak> yup
[04:27] <_jason> nope
[04:27] <shadox> cool :d
[04:28] <shadox> i only got 2 more probs in ubuntu, but i'll fix them too
[04:28] <DUNFreak> I've only been using ubuntu for something like 2 weeks, and already I'm giving more help in here than receiving. haha
[04:29] <shadox> i'm using it 1 day :d
[04:29] <DUNFreak> That's really good.
[04:29] <everett_> Would it be possible to copy over my config in /boot/ to my /usr/src/linux-2.6.10 kernel source and then make, make install thereby getting all the settings that "just work" ?
[04:29] <tiglionabbit> DUNFreak: me too, but I've had it since hoary was released
[04:29] <nadira> hi
[04:29] <shadox> the apt-get was the most annoying thing, but yet i start loving it
[04:29] <DUNFreak> btw, quick tip for you shadox, ALT+F2 (equivalent to WIN+R)
[04:30] <tiglionabbit> shadox: really?  When I first discovered debian, apt was my favorite part of it!  I loved it instantly
[04:30] <szronik> thegladiator: It works
[04:30] <DUNFreak> apt-get is really good. it's really faster than Synaptic when you only have one thing to install
[04:30] <shadox> in windows it was just "hitting the .exe file"
[04:31] <shadox> i don't get the synaptic part
[04:31] <shadox> only using apt-get
[04:31] <bz0b> anyone here using dapper yet?
[04:31] <TaranisSTL> so ...i'm a pretty n00b to linux, could someone help walk through install of adobe
[04:31] <tiglionabbit> shadox: synaptic is just apt with graphics, dude
[04:31] <DUNFreak> shadox, Synaptic is just like Add/Remove programs (or rather like Windows Setup)
[04:31] <TaranisSTL> i got jre installed
[04:31] <xukun> is there a of monitoring or see what is going on my home network(router + 3 pc's)?
[04:31] <tiglionabbit> DUNFreak: actually now we've got a real add/remove programs thingy =P
[04:31] <DUNFreak> shadox, to get it just hit System / Administration / Synaptic Package Manager
[04:31] <shadox> aah, but mayB i need some time to explore it
[04:31] <shadox> uhu i know
[04:31] <DUNFreak> tiglionabbit, lol, really. Of course it doesn't see everything... but it's close enough.
[04:31] <Falstius> xukun, ethereal is the famous one
[04:32] <shadox> whole lists of items
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> shadox: you should.  Right-click it and pin it somewhere you can access quickly-- it's great
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> DUNFreak: well yeah-- it's just stuff that's been pre-tested
[04:32] <chicano-> anybody knows how to install ncurses?
[04:32] <DUNFreak> true
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> but it's got a lot of stuff
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> chicano-: search synaptic for it man
[04:32] <DUNFreak> chicano-, did you try "sudo apt-get install ncurses" ?
[04:33] <chicano-> yep DUNFreak not available
[04:33] <chicano-> E: Package ncurses has no installation candidate
[04:33] <MoonRanger> !mp3
[04:33] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:33] <_jason> !info ncurses
[04:33] <tiglionabbit> !info libncurses5
[04:33] <shadox> lol
[04:33] <ubotu> libncurses5: (Shared libraries for terminal handling), section base, is required. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 281 kB, Installed size: 528 kB
[04:33] <shadox> there he goes again :d
[04:33] <tiglionabbit> just search synaptic, like I said
[04:33] <tiglionabbit> and you'll find that
[04:33] <bz0b> can someone tell me how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5879
[04:34] <tiglionabbit> you'd actually get a lot of results, but the ones with ubuntu logos are a good idea to go with
[04:34] <DUNFreak> tiglionabbit, depends if you uncommented the universe sources ;)
[04:34] <shadox> where can i found the channel for this irc?
[04:35] <DUNFreak> shadox, this is #ubundu@irc.freenode.net
[04:35] <shadox> thnx
[04:35] <shadox> i want to fix it in gaim
[04:35] <ablyss> question: any advantages to running the Nvida driver over the default driver even if I dont play games?  Would the system perform better?
[04:36] <tiglionabbit> DUNFreak: well yeah but what we're looking for is in main.  Heheh, universe has fun stuff though
[04:36] <tiglionabbit> main reason ncurses will return a lot is because it'll get everything's ncurses version
[04:36] <tiglionabbit> ablyss: a good nvidia graphics card will speed up 2d rendering of the regular operating system as well
[04:37] <kopimp> help! when i try to put in the command to load the video drivers it says permission denied
[04:37] <tiglionabbit> so yeah, it will help you
[04:37] <tiglionabbit> kopimp: try putting sudo before it =P
[04:37] <ablyss> okay thanks a bunch tiglionabbit
[04:37] <shadox> :d
[04:37] <shadox> made the same mistake yesterday :d
[04:37] <kopimp> i did then it ask for a pw and it doesnt let me type anything
[04:38] <shadox> is normal
[04:38] <thegladiator> kopimp, try sud -s
[04:38] <thegladiator> kopimp, try sudo -s
[04:38] <shadox> pw is your administrator password
[04:38] <thegladiator> kopimp, or sudo su
[04:38] <_jason> kopimp, you jsut don't see the letters, it is typing though... just put your user pass
[04:38] <shadox> is normal that you can't see what you are typing :)
[04:38] <tiglionabbit> kopimp: it doesn't show the password while you type it
[04:38] <kopimp> correct
[04:39] <linuxgeek2> hi
[04:39] <shadox> jeeej my first help :d
[04:39] <DUNFreak> hehe don't flood him guys ;)
[04:39] <Stormx2> heya
[04:39] <linuxgeek2> folks does know how to enable
[04:39] <linuxgeek2> Xcomposite in gdesklets
[04:39] <kopimp> thanks i'll try it
[04:39] <linuxgeek2> !gdesklets
[04:39] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[04:39] <clovis> helllo
[04:40] <tiglionabbit> hiyo
[04:40] <shadox> only the mp3 part is something i need to find out, but please do not call this bot now :D
[04:40] <Leathco> Hello
[04:40] <linas5> wow
[04:40] <linas5> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:40] <linas5> im stupid
[04:40] <linuxgeek2> how do I enable transparency
[04:40] <Leathco> I have a really stupid question
[04:40] <bz0b> can someone tell me how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5879
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> bz0b: "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these."
[04:41] <bz0b> oh
[04:41] <Leathco> How do I setup my DSL connection?  I am connected to my router but my connection requires a user name and password
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> bz0b: um, do you read what your computer says to you?
[04:41] <bz0b> well i read that
[04:41] <shadox> bz0b, have no ID, is strange to me 2
[04:41] <DUNFreak> Leathco, you need to logon to your router and enter the user/pass in there
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> bz0b: and did you try it?
[04:42] <bz0b> but i thought that -f force installs it, without dependencies, so it still wouldnt work
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> bz0b: actually, with apt, f is for "fix"
[04:42] <bz0b> didn't want to take the risk without asking first
[04:42] <bz0b> oh
[04:42] <Leathco> My routers password is locked down via my ISP, I don't have access to the password
[04:42] <Knorrie> bz0b: man apt-get :)
[04:42] <bz0b> thanks
[04:42] <DUNFreak> Leathco, Your ISP sold you the router?
[04:43] <Leathco> Yea, small wireless one
[04:43] <DUNFreak> Leathco, then you'll need to call your ISP :P
[04:43] <tiglionabbit> what isp is it?
[04:43] <Leathco> It's a Westell, the DSL modem is built into it, has 4 ports and a wireless port
[04:43] <Leathco> Verizon
[04:43] <shadox> oowh, true, i also need to fix my wife
[04:43] <shadox> *wifi
[04:43] <DUNFreak> Sympatico does the same. Crap custom firmware in the router
[04:43] <Leathco> Yep
[04:43] <tiglionabbit> shadox: not planning on having any kids?
[04:43] <DUNFreak> shadox: BASH'ed
[04:44] <shadox> tiglionabbit: no thnQ still to young :D
[04:44] <DUNFreak> lmao
[04:44] <Leathco> So I'm trying to find a way to enter username/password via the OS, Madriva 10.1 did that but the actual OS had crap hardware support
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> Leathco: I don't understand your question
[04:45] <DUNFreak> Leathco, are you actually in ubuntu right now?
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> oh wait, now I get it
[04:45] <shadox> spoken about bash, what does it means when you get that "error"
[04:45] <Leathco> No, WinXP
[04:45] <Leathco> Got Unbuntu on my laptop
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> shadox: which error?
[04:45] <shadox> tiglionabbit: bash
[04:46] <DUNFreak> Leathco, so why are you on #ubuntu asking about setting your DSL on Windows XP through a router? I don't get it.
[04:46] <tiglionabbit> shadox: you mean when it says "bash: command not found: yourcommand" ?
[04:46] <DUNFreak> shadox, I was actually talking about www.bash.org
[04:46] <DUNFreak> lol
[04:46] <shadox> tiglionabbit, yes
[04:46] <shadox> DUNFreak, ow, but yesterday i noticed it is also a kind of "error"
[04:46] <tiglionabbit> shadox: well, that means bash looked in all the directories in the $PATH variable, and couldn't find a file with the same name as the one you told it to run
[04:46] <nassif> hi all ... attached a hppsc 1315 to my fresh installed breezy (x86). printing works just fine, but xsane does not come up (tail -f /var/log/messages says : " localhost xsane: unable to connect hpssd socket 1027: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 710") . Any ideas ?
[04:46] <shadox> :d
[04:47] <Leathco> I'm trying to get on the internet using Ubuntu, My DSL ISP requires a user name/password to log on, and I don't jknow how to set that up via Ubuntu
[04:47] <DUNFreak> Leathco, if you have a router, you cannot set DSL directly on your OS (either of them). It *needs* to be set in the router itself. If your internet works in WinXP, then it'll work on ubuntu
[04:47] <shadox> tiglionabbit: that would mean, or the name or the directory is wrong?
[04:47] <tiglionabbit> shadox: bash is your shell.  When a program wants to give you an error, it tends to say it like so:  "programname: type of error: specific input that caused it"
[04:47] <DUNFreak> shadox, bash is the technical term for the terminal actually. like the command prompt.
[04:48] <shadox> aha
[04:48] <shadox> k now I got :d
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> Bash is Bourne Again SHell
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> it's the thing that reads what you type and interprets it
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> and finds programs to execute for you
[04:48] <beelzebub1987> any prior info I should know before updating the seveas java-package?
[04:48] <DUNFreak> tiglionabbit, like I said. Command Prompt ;)
[04:49] <Leathco> Right, in WinXP I set up a user name/password to log on to my DSL connection, ethernet line runs to the router but the ISP requires authentication, I'm trying to figure out how I set that up in Ubuntu
[04:49] <shadox> oki, next time i receive this error i know where to searche the mistake :d
[04:49] <shadox> uhu prompt i know from java
[04:49] <DUNFreak> Leathco, if you have a User/Pass for your DSL under WinXP then you're not even using a router.
[04:49] <tiglionabbit> there's all kinds of different shells you can use, but bash is the most common.  Other shells out there are sh, csh, tcsh, ksh.  Some script interpreters provide their own shells too
[04:49] <DUNFreak> Trust me, I work for an ISP. :P
[04:49] <beelzebub1987> Leathco, your isp should have have given you a cd
[04:50] <DUNFreak> beelzebub1987, no they don't, not unless you have win98/nt/2k
[04:50] <beelzebub1987> eh
[04:50] <DUNFreak> what's the use when everyone has WinXP now. hehe
[04:50] <linas5> god freaking damnit
[04:50] <Leathco> lol well I think it's a router, could be wrong.  It has 4 ethernet ports and a wireless link on it.  The DSL modem is built into it
[04:50] <DUNFreak> And our software (raspppoe) fits on a floppy so... heh
[04:50] <beelzebub1987> WinXP and Win2K are just about the same thing...
[04:50] <shadox> DUNFreak, not everybody :D
[04:50] <linas5> ill just dl the newer version of ubuntu...
[04:50] <beelzebub1987> I mean as long as you fully update Win2k
[04:50] <beelzebub1987> But this isn't a windows chat
[04:50] <linas5> lol
[04:51] <beelzebub1987> Yes 5.10 does have some major improvements from 5.04
[04:51] <DUNFreak> Leathco, that's the Speedstream model right? Sympatico uses the same thing. You should have access to the router functions. Check the manual (RTFM)
[04:51] <DUNFreak> beelzebub1987, actually Win2K does not have PPPoE support in it, nore does it have simultaneous logons
[04:51] <MoonRanger> my DSL modem is a router/modem as well .. thru sympatico here in canada .. and i had net connecttion in ubuntu as soon as i installed it
[04:51] <Leathco> Versalink327W model made by Westell
[04:52] <MoonRanger> one of the only linux's i have ever installed that found everything that i have
[04:52] <DUNFreak> MoonRanger, same here
[04:52] <MoonRanger> its an awesome modem
[04:52] <pat_bateman> re
[04:52] <shadox> MoonRanger, and here :d
[04:52] <DUNFreak> Leathco, that's actually very good. But even though I'm repeating myself... RTFM, that'll work. Or maybe your network card in Ubuntu isn't set up?
[04:53] <MoonRanger> and the only thing i wanna do in ubuntu is figure out how to tie my domain name to my box etc ..
[04:53] <tarzeau> anyone join us play #bub-n-bros http://bub-n-bros.sf.net
[04:53] <MoonRanger> on a dynamic IP
[04:53] <doze1> hi!
[04:53] <MoonRanger> i have in windows xp i use DynSite to auto-update my ip
[04:53] <doze1> if im trying to login on x i just got: I could not start your session
[04:53] <doze1> and so I have started the failsafe xterm
[04:53] <doze1> what should i do?
[04:53] <Leathco> lol, I dont have the manual, only stuff in the box was the gateway/router, DSL filters, and an ethernet cable
[04:53] <Cerin> Quick question. I new to Ubuntu, and after I installed Ubuntu, I didn't remember setting a root password, and when I try to login as root it gives me a login error.
[04:54] <MoonRanger> Cerin : use the password you setup for your main accoutn
[04:54] <Leathco> and I have the network card working because I can access my other Linux box on the network
[04:54] <doze1> When I try to login i get window with: "I could not start your session and so I have started the failsafe xterm" and after all there're blank screen with console. Help me
[04:54] <DUNFreak> Leathco, under normal circumstances, you do not need a connection icon on WinXP or ubuntu. Your DSL Router will establish the connection (it has the username/password inside of it) and then it shares the connection through the local area network (DHCP assigns IP addresses to each computers)
[04:55] <Cerin> MoonRanger: The username too? I tried that but it didn't work.
[04:55] <xptk> hi, I have a problem with ubuntu in my amilo 1437G, I can play videos, but with little jumps, any idea? that is the same with mplayer, totem, etc...
[04:55] <Leathco> hmm....alright.  I'm trying to see if I do a factory reset on the router if that will reset the password so I can log on to it
[04:55] <doze1> When I try to login i get window with: "I could not start your session and so I have started the failsafe xterm" and after all there're blank screen with console. Help me
[04:56] <rraajj> Cerin: You can't login as root by default.
[04:56] <DUNFreak> Leathco, dunno if that will work. I suggest calling Verizon (I'm sure that's annoying and long) just in case, not to mess anything up
[04:56] <Cerin> Also, when I try to install Ubuntu on a Compaq Desktop with an on-board Intel video chipset, it crashes with a kernel panic.
[04:56] <DUNFreak> I doubt that resetting to factory default will reset your password, I'm sure they enter it just before sending it
[04:56] <shadox> dozel, dunno what to do neither
[04:56] <Cerin> rrajj: Why's that?
[04:56] <DUNFreak> Cerin, security reasons. Running as root is stupid
[04:56] <doze1> shadox, so leave it as it is? blank screen?
[04:57] <rraajj> Cerin: I really don't know the reason why. Maybe for security.
[04:57] <Leathco> Alright, I appreciate your help.  I've had problems with this ISP before with Internet Connection Sharing, but they are the only option for DSL where I live at
[04:57] <Cerin> DUNFreak: uh, yeah, but don't you need to be root to install software and do other rootish things?
[04:57] <doze1> i had previously problems with starting x, so i've reinstalled it
[04:57] <DUNFreak> Leathco, This isn't ICS at all if you're using a router ;)
[04:57] <DUNFreak> Cerin, nope. you can use sudo apt-get
[04:57] <rraajj> Cerin: You can always do that using sudo.
[04:58] <doze1> maybe it's drivers issue?
[04:58] <shadox> dozel, can't help you out, can you explain a bit more
[04:58] <DUNFreak> and Synaptic will work as root, just need to type in the password
[04:58] <rraajj> Cerin: Or are you talking about getting root privileges at the term?
[04:58] <Cerin> Ah, ok, sorry. I'm coming from Fedora, and they use root.
[04:58] <xptk> doze1, try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:58] <Cerin> rrajj: Yes.
[04:58] <Leathco> Well I couldn't share any network connection, Verizon had it disabled in the hardware somehow
[04:58] <DUNFreak> Cerin, you can just do "sudo -s" or "su" and enter your password (Same as main account)
[04:58] <limer> duh.  have to run apache2 for the server (seems silly though)
[04:59] <DUNFreak> Leathco, then why send a multiport router? stupid.
[04:59] <doze1> after instalation, when i typed startx it stopped with "no device" or such. I've reinstalled it and it starts, and stop a little futher
[04:59] <rraajj> Cerin: You can use sudo as an alternative. sudo <command to do> will do the trick. :D
[04:59] <DUNFreak> I don't think I'll ever understand large ISP's way of thinking.
[04:59] <Ophiocus> how can i increase the buffer of the terminal console?
[04:59] <MoonRanger> verizon sounds like a shitty company
[04:59] <Cerin> Dunfreak, rraajj: Thanks, I understand now.
[04:59] <DUNFreak> MoonRanger, they're like sympatico actually
[04:59] <Leathco> DUNFreak, no clue.  Seems they just ship whatever they have, a friend of mine got the same service I do but only got a single port setup
[04:59] <rraajj> Cerin: You're welcome. :)
[05:00] <DUNFreak> Leathco, yeah it's pretty much like that
[05:00] <shadox> MoonRanger, the most shitty company is the one of bill gates
[05:00] <DUNFreak> Cerin, glad I could help
[05:00] <MoonRanger> i agree with that .. which is why i wanted to install linux for awhile ..
[05:00] <Leathco> DUNFreak just found default password into the router, looks like I can set it up proper
[05:00] <DUNFreak> shadox, actually MS isn't that bad anymore (or rather their products. XP is a lot more stable than any other Win system)
[05:00] <DUNFreak> Leathco, that's great! :D
[05:00] <Leathco> DUNFreak thanks to google lol
[05:00] <Cerin> Is anyone aware of issues with installing Ubuntu on Compaq machines?
[05:01] <DUNFreak> Cerin, haven't tried to install it on my compaq laptop myself
[05:01] <MoonRanger> google is everyones friend
[05:01] <shadox> DUNFreak, what is the name of this irc server? cus it doesn't work
[05:01] <shadox> lool
[05:01] <DUNFreak> shadox, server is irc.freenode.net
[05:01] <DUNFreak> channel is ubuntu (obviousely)
[05:01] <Cerin> DUNFreak: I'm trying on a P3 desktop, and the installer is giving me a kernel panic almost immediately.
[05:01] <shadox> that should do the trick :d
[05:01] <doze1> is there any X log file, when i could find problems source?
[05:02] <Cerin> DUNFreak: In both the graphical and text modes.
[05:02] <Leathco> DUNFreak, I beleive it's under Remote Access, just input the user name/password for the ISP and it should technically work, right?
[05:02] <DShepherd> hey
[05:02] <DUNFreak> Leathco, yup
[05:02] <shadox> "when there is a deathline bill gates get his programmers work 72 houres without sleep, but the product is called windows"
[05:02] <doze1> is there any X log file, when i could find problems source?
[05:02] <DUNFreak> Cerin, then I really don't know. Try googling your modem number and the word ubuntu in google...
[05:03] <Leathco> DUNFreak, thanks for the help.  I'm gonna do a quick reboot to see if it'll work
[05:03] <szronik> I did an apt-get install hardware-monitor - but I have no idea where it is or how to run it :P Any clues?
[05:03] <DUNFreak> Leathco, hope it works :D
[05:03] <DUNFreak> hmn. A silent thank you to whoever mentionned Automatix ; I installed it and I love it :P
[05:03] <Cerin> DUNFreak: Modem number? The machine doesn't have a modem.
[05:04] <DUNFreak> Cerin, I meant modeL number sorry
[05:04] <shadox> my ubuntu sais there are 451 updates availeble :s
[05:04] <doze1> When I try to login i get window with: "I could not start your session and so I have started the failsafe xterm" and after all there're blank screen with console. Help me
[05:04] <Cerin> Is ndiswrapper installed by default?
[05:04] <mjr> Cerin, no
[05:05] <doze1> could any1 help me?
[05:05] <DUNFreak> dozel, you said you tried to reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[05:05] <doze1> no, ive reinstalled drivers
[05:05] <doze1> X11
[05:06] <DUNFreak> doze1, I suggest reinstalling ubuntu (as I assume it was a fresh install?)
[05:06] <doze1> yes, it was
[05:06] <doze1> I guess it's configuration issue, I don't know what exacly should i type when he prompts
[05:06] <doze1> and I leaved defaults
[05:06] <DUNFreak> It hasn't happened to me so I don't really know...
[05:06] <Cerin> mjr: heh, the only network connection I have on my machine is a wifi card. That's going to make apt-getting things a bit hard.
[05:06] <nassif> couldnt find anything regarding hppsc 1315 and "unable to connect hpssd socket 1027" .... i am stuck: any ideas ?
[05:06] <DUNFreak> sorry
[05:07] <battlecat> Hi I have Win XP and Ubuntu installed on one harddrive. I was going to reinstall Unbuntu to take the whole harddrive but when I put the Install CD into the computer and start the computer up it goes right to the GRUB screen. There have been no hardware or bios changes. Any idea why it doesnt boot from the CD now?
[05:07] <shadox> ooow got another question, when you install ubuntu it asks you which kernel you want to install, which one should you pick than?
[05:07] <monzie> hello all
[05:07] <DUNFreak> shadox, it never asked me
[05:07] <jbroome> battlecat: do other cd's boot ok on the same machine?
[05:07] <DUNFreak> not on Breezy
[05:07] <shadox> i receive 3 choices
[05:07] <doze1> DUNFreak, when I reinstall ubuntu, what should I do with grub?
[05:07] <doze1> fdisk /mbr ?
[05:07] <DUNFreak> dozel, Do you have dualboot or just ubuntu?
[05:08] <doze1> dualboot
[05:08] <battlecat> jbroome: I tried the XP CD as well and it did not work.
[05:08] <shutdownrunner> dozel: grub-install /dev/hda1
[05:08] <shadox> kernel i386, kernel 2.6. ... and there was another (but i forgot the name)
[05:08] <DUNFreak> doze1, then you could simply leave grub as is since it works (the problem is somewhere else)
[05:08] <DUNFreak> not sure 100% though
[05:08] <monzie> the xorg server boots up with a higher resolution than required
[05:08] <jbroome> battlecat: do you have another cdrom you could swap out and try?
[05:09] <doze1> so restart computer with ubuntu cd in and format partition again
[05:09] <doze1> ?
[05:09] <doze1> don't clear mbr?
[05:09] <battlecat> jbroome: I tried that as well.
[05:09] <monzie> i have to ctrl-alt-backspace it to see something
[05:09] <DUNFreak> battlecat, did you make sure that the BIOS was set to boot from CD before HDD's ?
[05:09] <monzie> but GNOME displays perfectly as i have setup the resolution to be 800x600
[05:09] <DUNFreak> doze1, I don't see why since that's not the problem
[05:09] <shutdownrunner> dozel: well if you'll format linux partition then grub will be automatically overwritten
[05:09] <battlecat> jbroome: I have a Debain Sarge disk that I might try soon. Yes I checked that.
[05:09] <monzie> can anoyone guide me?
[05:09] <lordjohnny> I need help to update Java 1.4.2
[05:10] <DUNFreak> monzie: try xconf
[05:10] <doze1> ok, so i'm a reinstall
[05:10] <DUNFreak> (does that actually work in ubuntu? haven't tried )
[05:10] <doze1> wish me luck
[05:10] <DUNFreak> doze1, break a hard drive.
[05:10] <shadox> dozel, good luck hoop we C you back soon
[05:10] <monzie> that's not a command on my system DUNFreak
[05:11] <DUNFreak> darn
[05:11] <monzie> i have the default install
[05:11] <battlecat> jbroome: Thanks for trying! :)
[05:11] <DUNFreak> I'm sure there's some kind of command line for X configuration but I'm not sure
[05:11] <jbroome> battlecat: np, sorry i couldn't narrow it down
[05:11] <shutdownrunner> monzie: try gnome-display-properties
[05:12] <Cerin> mjr: hmm, this says ndiswrapper is already part of the Hoary kernel, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:12] <raghu> DUNFreak, dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:12] <mjr> Cerin, then I was wrong
[05:12] <monzie> that's working just fine shutdownrunner ,
[05:12] <shutdownrunner> monzie:you're welcome
[05:12] <monzie> the problem is when gdm starts, it boots up in a higher resolution than needed
[05:12] <monzie> so i have to ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:13] <monzie> after getting into GNOME , it sets to 800x600
[05:13] <DUNFreak> monzie: dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:13] <monzie> sorry, ctrl-alt-plus
[05:13] <Entity> After installing kubuntu-desktop, my Applications menu in gnome is empty. After removing the kde packages I still have the same problem... any idea?
[05:14] <shutdownrunner> monzie:maybe you incorrectly configured xorg.conf
[05:14] <gnomefreak> Entity,  can you use smeg to bring the menu back to normal?
[05:14] <DUNFreak> Entity, are you sure you're still booting in KDE? ;)
[05:14] <DUNFreak> (or still NOT booting)
[05:14] <shutdownrunner> monzie: you should set video modes like "800x600" "640x480"
[05:15] <Entity> DUNFreak, no it was removed
[05:15] <asdasd> hello
[05:15] <thegladiator> hi asdasd
[05:15] <DUNFreak> then try what gnomefreak said ;)
[05:15] <thegladiator> asdasd, is a lazy nick :D
[05:15] <asdasd> any idea how to tighten my firewall in ubuntu
[05:15] <shadox> DUNFreak, is it normal that i my ubuntu sais "there are 451 updates"
[05:16] <everett_> I hate when this happens, when for some reason I can't check out code from sourceforge using cvs.
[05:16] <DUNFreak> shadox: yup.
[05:16] <mdke> has anyone used dovecot on Ubuntu? I installed it yesterday, and edited a few of the basis config parameters, but could get it to listen as an IMAP server. Can anyone help?
[05:16] <hagge__> which linux filesystem is less crap? ;
[05:16] <mdke> s/could/could not**
[05:16] <gnomefreak> Entity,  go to applications > systemtools and than applacations menu editer and see if you cant bring them back
[05:16] <shadox> DUNFreak, 451??
[05:16] <shadox> that is a lot
[05:16] <thegladiator> shadox > which version are u using ?
[05:16] <DUNFreak> shadox: yeah. lots of packages to upgrade
[05:16] <shutdownrunner> hagge__:reiserfs
[05:16] <Entity> gnomefreak, I can't go since it's empty
[05:17] <hagge__> shutdownrunner: but wasn't reiserfs unstable shit which had everyone lose their data back in the days?
[05:17] <thegladiator> shadox, if you are on a old system , and u havent configured for a while , or you have installed many external applications
[05:17] <Entity> gnomefreak, trying alacarte menu editor doesn't solve my problem
[05:17] <monzie> thanks shutdownrunner , it worked
[05:17] <shadox> thegladiator: guess 5.10
[05:17] <asdasd> is there a man that can point me where i can find tightening my firewall
[05:17] <asdasd> :D
[05:17] <hagge__> shutdownrunner: but now i read ext2 wasn't that great either, so maybe running ext3 was a bad idea, that and it's much slower than reiserfs ;/
[05:17] <monzie> if you are an Ubuntu developer, put this in a nice graphical installer plz
[05:17] <shadox> thegladiator:, 5.04
[05:17] <thegladiator> 5.10 , have u installde too many applications ? other than default ?
[05:17] <shutdownrunner> hagge__: I've been using reiserfs for quite some time and it's the most stable fs. even if I shutdown uncleanly it doesn't fsck up
[05:17] <gnomefreak> Entity, what happens if you right click applacations and choose edit menu?
[05:17] <thegladiator> 5.04 is too old
[05:17] <monzie> it would be really great for newbies like me
[05:18] <hagge__> shutdownrunner: 3 or 4?
[05:18] <Entity> gnomefreak, Alacarte menu editor is launched ... did this already
[05:18] <thegladiator> shadox, really u have to upgrade and 451 is a smalll number
[05:18] <monzie> and newbies like me constitute the majority of guys who are trying to shift to linux from windows, shutdownrunner
[05:18] <shutdownrunner> hagge__:I guess that ubuntu still uses 3. 4 is not that popular yet
[05:18] <hagge__> shutdownrunner: i would choose stability over speed anytime when it comes to fs
[05:18] <thegladiator> shadox, lots of impromvements after that
[05:18] <hagge__> shutdownrunner: so i just wanna know what screws up the least ;)
[05:18] <shadox> thegladiator, it is because i got those cd's original, the ones i downloaded don't work on my notebook
[05:18] <shutdownrunner> hagge__:then choose reiserfs
[05:18] <thegladiator> shadox, u shud try out the latest 5.10 breezy badger , from shipt it
[05:19] <shutdownrunner> monzie:no problem:)
[05:19] <asdasd> yes original ubuntu are the best
[05:19] <asdasd> im using ubuntu's live cd
[05:19] <thegladiator> shadox, just  goto ubuntu website and register for a "ship it" , comes free
[05:19] <shadox> thegladiator, i got that one download from the site, but it won't work he sais on a certain moment invalid disk entered
[05:20] <shadox> thegladiator, but howmany 50? just need 1 :)
[05:20] <lurah> darn. too many beers yesterday...no, not too many because im alive here lol. tv and beer -->
[05:20] <thegladiator> shadox, unfortunate . some download error mayb . better you can opt for the shipping , its free of cost
[05:20] <mefiX> hello!
[05:20] <asdasd> hi
[05:20] <thegladiator> shadox, ship it sends u 5 cd's
[05:20] <Entity> gnomefreak, any other idea?
[05:20] <TenPlus1> Hi folks...  How do you enable TV-Out for Ati cards on a laptop ????
[05:20] <mefiX> can someone help me with my boot-prob?
[05:20] <shutdownrunner> there's no difference between ordered and downloaded cds unless you made some mistake during burning cds
[05:20] <mefiX> im trying to install ubuntu
[05:21] <shadox> thegladiator, ooow, than i registr imm!!
[05:21] <thegladiator> shutdownrunner has a point
[05:21] <mefiX> but my dvd-drive doesn't seem to boot from the dvd
[05:21] <phofer> Hi newbie and I am trying to install JRE from sun. I receive an error when issuing command sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common. The package 'java-pakage' can't be find. I have enabled all other repositories and still no joy. Any help appreciated.
[05:21] <gnomefreak> Entity, im thinking but truthfully im not sure :(
[05:21] <thegladiator> shadox, yep go ahead :) good luck
[05:21] <mefiX> ive already tried to create a boot floppy
[05:21] <Ophiocus> shadox i had a problem with burnt iso install, happened that the cds were low cuality and didint read properly
[05:21] <_jason> !info java-package
[05:21] <mefiX> but this doesn't work neither
[05:21] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[05:21] <Entity> gnomefreak, np ;)
[05:21] <hagge__> so get decent cds
[05:21] <hagge__> ;d
[05:21] <shadox> thegladiator, thnX i ow you one
[05:21] <_jason> phofer, pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:21] <hagge__> i had troubles with my scratched cd-rw ;)
[05:22] <hagge__> no troubles with my new verbatim cd-r
[05:22] <mefiX> is it possible to use grub4dos and specify the dvd-drive in menu.lst?
[05:22] <hagge__> go figure
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Entity,  try running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[05:22] <thegladiator> shadox, sure u can send me one always welcome
[05:22] <Ophiocus> so i did, and it now works like a charm
[05:22] <shadox> ophiocus, i burned them twice, twice same error
[05:22] <Allan_> When I install, it asks for a password. Sure, whatever. That is my account password, but now I want to access the root account. I don't know the password!!!!!!!
[05:22] <thegladiator> shadox, did u check md5 check sum ?
[05:22] <shadox> thegladiator, where to send to? :d cuz this is belgium speaking :d
[05:22] <hagge__> shadox: what was the error? it's not that it just doesn't work good with whatever part of your hardware?
[05:22] <Entity> gnomefreak, well I reinstalled gnome-panel etc .
[05:22] <Entity> no luck
[05:22] <hagge__> allan: use sudo
[05:22] <rudiz> Allan, sudo
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Allan_, root has been disabled in ubuntu by default
[05:22] <Cerin> Does Ubuntu do automount or anything? I plugged in a usb flash drive and I can't find where to access it.
[05:22] <shadox> thegladiator md5?
[05:23] <Ophiocus> shadox, crappy media will pass the integrity and checksum tests in the installer, but will fail to read properly
[05:23] <thegladiator> shadox, :) no worries , post president of us :D
[05:23] <hagge__> or if you really want a root shell for whatever stupid reason run sudo sh
[05:23] <hagge__> ;D
[05:23] <rudiz> Allan and use your user passwd
[05:23] <TenPlus1> Hi folks...  How do you enable TV-Out for Ati cards on a laptop ????
[05:23] <gnomefreak> Entity,  im sorry im not sure other than to reinstall it :(
[05:23] <thegladiator> shadox, yep md5 is a error checking method...
[05:23] <shadox> hagge__ no, no hardware conflicts, installing with original cd (5.04) everything runs fine
[05:24] <phofer> _Jason, here it is deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[05:24] <phofer> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[05:24] <phofer> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[05:24] <phofer> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:24] <phofer> ## distribution.
[05:24] <phofer> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[05:24] <phofer> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[05:24] <phofer> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:24] <_jason> phofer, pastebin!
[05:24] <phofer> ## repository.
[05:24] <phofer> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:24] <_jason> !pastebin
[05:24] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:24] <phofer> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:24] <thegladiator> shadox, u get a md5 scheck sum number from the site and u can verify the number with the one in ur cd ; to obtain ur cd's check sum u need some software , simple ones
[05:24] <phofer> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:24] <_jason> heh
[05:24] <phofer> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[05:24] <phofer> ## team.
[05:24] <phofer>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:24] <Aton> hey is there any1 who could tell me how to install and implant Java in the firefox on ubuntu?!?
[05:24] <thegladiator> !md5
[05:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[05:24] <phofer>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:24] <phofer> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[05:24] <Madcat> damn can anyone please help me, i have had this with several instalations on desktops, the locations and system menu on the panel works fine but the applications menu opens and then quickly disapears
[05:24] <Ophiocus> phofer STOOOOOOOOP
[05:24] <phofer> ## repository.
[05:24] <phofer> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[05:24] <hagge__> phofer: intresting..
[05:24] <phofer> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[05:24] <shadox> thegladiator anyway, i'm on ubuntu right now, and that won't ever change, mayB i should send a cd to bill gates ^^
[05:24] <phofer> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[05:24] <phofer> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[05:24] <phofer> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[05:24] <phofer>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:24] <thegladiator> he he :)
[05:24] <phofer>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:24] <phofer>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phofer  about paste
[05:24] <phofer>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[05:24] <phofer>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[05:24] <phofer>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[05:25] <hagge__> TenPlus1: ask anyway ;D
[05:25] <Madcat> damn can anyone please help me, i have had this with several instalations on desktops, the locations and system menu on the panel works fine but the applications menu opens and then quickly disapears
[05:25] <Madcat> please :)
[05:25] <phofer> apologies about the paste
[05:25] <rio> is there a deb file for Gaim2beta?
[05:25] <thegladiator> shadox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto here is knowhow on md5 please check
[05:25] <_jason> phofer, use pastebin, then paste the url for the pastebin here (ubotu sent you the link)
[05:25] <hagge__> phofer: as the bot said, http://pastebin.com/
[05:25] <thegladiator> rio try making one ?
[05:26] <thegladiator> rio, i am not sure beta's are often supported on stable systems , i mayb wrong though
[05:26] <shadox> thegladiator i'll do the shipping thing :d
[05:26] <thegladiator> not*
[05:26] <thegladiator> shadox, yeah , simple as that :D
[05:26] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, no!
[05:26] <TenPlus1> hagge_: I have Ubuntu 5.10 installed on a laptop and everything works great, even the wireless network and shared files... but... I cant get to grips with tv-out for my ati card... any ideas ???
[05:26] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, keep off smoking !
[05:27] <peterMasiar> pls help - installing java and cannot fing 'java-package'
[05:27] <thegladiator> is ubuntu unofficial number one in linux share ?
[05:27] <phofer> _jason pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5880
[05:27] <thegladiator> peterMasiar, u have to check multiverse repo
[05:27] <thegladiator> peterMasiar, i gues
[05:27] <thegladiator> !MultiVerse
[05:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[05:28] <thegladiator> peterMasiar, check that link , i guess thats the problem
[05:28] <thegladiator> fresh install ?
[05:28] <_jason> phofer, you are missing multiverse, add the word " multiverse" to the end of lines 19,20,35, and 36.  pastebin again when you are done so we can make sure it's right
[05:28] <peterMasiar> thegaldiator, i added multiverse in synaptic, and i managed to add fakerrot and java-common
[05:28] <TenPlus1> for anyone with java/flash install probs, check out this site: http://www.cd.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu
[05:29] <Aton> hey is there any1 who could tell me how to install and implant Java in the firefox on ubuntu?!?
[05:29] <peterMasiar> tenplus, thx, i check it
[05:29] <_jason> TenPlus1, server not found
[05:29] <TenPlus1> for anyone with java/flash install probs, check out this site: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu
[05:29] <peterMasiar> aton, i have same problems - you are not alone :-)
[05:29] <TenPlus1> oops, wrong addy....   Aton... goto the link I just pasted
[05:29] <Aton> tnx tenplus
[05:30] <theconartist> ah helpz
[05:30] <theconartist> ive been rooted
[05:30] <thegladiator> cd ? which dept ?
[05:30] <thegladiator> rooted ?
[05:30] <TenPlus1> Has anyone gotten their Ati card tv-out working in ubuntu ???
[05:31] <theconartist> thegladiator, there are 2 of me logged in somehow, and my cpu usage is going out of control
[05:31] <TenPlus1> bye peeps...
[05:31] <Madcat>  i have had this with several instalations on desktops, the locations and system menu on the panel works fine but the applications menu opens and then quickly disapears
[05:31] <Madcat> private if you can help plz
[05:31] <thegladiator> i am not sure on that . try a restart ?
[05:31] <theconartist> :o
[05:32] <thegladiator> it could be a virus actually
[05:32] <gnomefreak> virus in linux?
[05:32] <shadox> thegladiator  oow almost forgotten, within half a year ubuntu changes version, not? is it a good ID to order yet?
[05:32] <phofer> _jason, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5881
[05:32] <peterMasiar> tenplus left - howto is not working for me: error: "make-jpkg command not found"
[05:32] <theconartist> then it has to be from a bad package in one of the repo's
[05:32] <rio> rare as chickens teach
[05:33] <_jason> theconartist, run 'top' and see what's using the cpu
[05:33] <rio> teeth*
[05:33] <thegladiator> shadox, it is free of cost , you can definitely ship it...it take a month i guess
[05:33] <peterMasiar> so again, my problem is, cannot install "java-package"
[05:33] <theconartist> _jason, thats the problem
[05:33] <_jason> phofer, okay looks good.  Save it and run 'sudo apt-get update' <-- that does the same as 'reload' in synaptic.
[05:33] <Cerin> When you pluggin a usb drive, shouldn't Ubuntu popup a window displaying the contents?
[05:33] <theconartist> i already did and i didnt see anything
[05:33] <Madcat> :0
[05:34] <thegladiator> shadox, its better than downloading 451 files and not yet getting the best out of it
[05:35] <beelzebub1987> Anyone interested in helping develop a web based game using PHP/MySQL? PM me if yes is your answer.
[05:35] <Cerin> Can anyone mount usb flash drives? Google's giving me nothing.
[05:35] <NatRH> Is it me or is the caching-nameserver package nowhere to be found?
[05:35] <theconartist> beelzebub1987, does the game suck?
[05:35] <beelzebub1987> it hasn't been created
[05:35] <shutdownrunner> Cerin:plug it in and it should work
[05:35] <beelzebub1987> and you're opinion of suck might be different from mine.
[05:36] <comradevik> where is the linux-source directory locatedon ubuntu
[05:36] <peterMasiar> hey, anybody: I enabled all repositories except backports, and still cannot find "java-package" - what i am doing wrong? using synaptic
[05:36] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: My flash drive's activity light comes on for a few seconds, then goes off, and I get nothing in Ubuntu.
[05:36] <_jason> peterMasiar, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: I've tried several different drives, and none of them take.
[05:37] <_jason> !pastebin
[05:37] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:38] <rraajj> peterMasiar: I think it's in the non-free (multiverse) section.
[05:38] <theconartist> how do you logout a users as root?
[05:38] <shutdownrunner> Cerin: what does dmesg | grep usb say?
[05:38] <phofer> Thanks _Jason it seems to be working now. Simple solution just lack of experience. Cheers
[05:38] <Chousuke> theconartist: hm?
[05:38] <Chousuke> theconartist: you mean how to force a user to log out?
[05:38] <theconartist> yes
[05:38] <Chousuke> theconartist: kill their bash/ssh/whattever.
[05:39] <theconartist> ok
[05:39] <_jason> phofer, np, the wiki is kind of vague... to enable multiverse you need to click add and then select all of the options, but editing sources.list is easier to communicate
[05:39] <beelzebub1987> kill their session
[05:39] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:40] <shadox> thegladiator, and you are sure it is 100% free, not that i get a bill after a month
[05:40] <aTypical> Morning, everyone.
[05:41] <shadox> aTypical, morning?
[05:41] <peterMasiar> _jason, some lines in apt/sources.list are uncommented, but have leading space - is it a problem?
[05:41] <shadox> aTypical, here it is evening :d
[05:41] <_jason> peterMasiar, I don't believe so
[05:41] <thegladiator> shadox, very much
[05:41] <aTypical> shadox, sure, it's 0841 here in sunny Southern California. :-)
[05:41] <thegladiator> shadox, 100%free
[05:41] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: "new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 11", "khubd timed out on epOin", "khubd timed out on epOout", "khubd timed out on epOout", "device not accepting address 11, error -110"
[05:42] <thegladiator> shadox, surpirsed aint it  ? some millionares are like that :d
[05:42] <peterMasiar> _jason, i will try remove spaces and update again
[05:42] <shadox> aTypical ooooh sunny   here it is 17:41 cold belgium
[05:42] <_jason> peterMasiar, okay, if that doesn't work just pastebin it so we can take a look
[05:42] <aTypical> shadox, sounds like good beer drinking weather.
[05:42] <sethk> aTypical, what would be bad beer drinking weather?
[05:42] <shadox> thegladiator, yes it is surprsing, than i'll order 10 iso 1
[05:42] <aTypical> sethk, heh. :-)
[05:42] <shadox> aTypical, lol
[05:43] <shadox> aTypical, gooood belgium bear (h)
[05:44] <thegladiator> its freezing in belgium ?
[05:44] <thegladiator> yes ?
[05:45] <shadox> uhu
[05:45] <shadox> -3C
[05:45] <Seveas> There, changed about everything that I could change in my repository. Everyone will complain again I guess :)
[05:46] <shutdownrunner> Cerin:which kernel have you got? maybe you should upgrade it
[05:46] <thegladiator> wuff!
[05:46] <shadox> thegladiator but in a few months summer begin
[05:46] <thegladiator> what is equvivalent of service command in linux ?
[05:47] <occy> Seveas, us complain?  what?
[05:47] <occy> Seveas, :)
[05:47] <thegladiator> nice
[05:47] <shutdownrunner> Cerin: try to boot up without ACPI
[05:47] <thegladiator> i used to use service network restart in fc4 ; how do i do that in terminal ?
[05:47] <thegladiator> in ubuntu?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> lol occy  thats the only way to be sure what distro is for you ;)
[05:48] <dbzdeath> hey can someone please help me with my sound card?
[05:48] <occy> I am trying to stick with as much default stuff as I can, in hopes to avoid the crashing I was doing earlier.
[05:48] <theconartist> the plot thickens
[05:48] <occy> gnomefreak, if I had a nickle for every distro I've used...
[05:48] <Seveas> occy, :)
[05:48] <gnomefreak> me too occy
[05:49] <occy> I'd be worth at least a buck.
[05:49] <occy> heh
[05:49] <gnomefreak> and yet find myself back with ubuntu everytime :)
[05:49] <thegladiator> shadox, just for you information i am on breazy and have around 200 files to upgrade
[05:49] <thegladiator> shadox, thats the way things are :D
[05:50] <occy> I've used Linux since 96' exclusively, but if things start dying on me again, I might shell out the big bucks and just go with an apple powerbook.   I can't afford apps to be dying on me.
[05:50] <thegladiator> occy, MA os is kewl ?
[05:50] <thegladiator> MAC
[05:50] <occy> I don't have tons of time to be wasting hunting down a stable distro
[05:50] <gnomefreak> mac OS is high dollar
[05:50] <thegladiator> i see
[05:50] <occy> thegladiator, could care less about cool, I just want and need stable for doing work.
[05:50] <Relampago> hello!!
[05:50] <Relampago> i need help! :D
[05:50] <gnomefreak> occy, breezy isnt stable enough?
[05:50] <occy> Warty was fairly rock solid.
[05:51] <occy> Breezy has been a nightmare.
[05:51] <thegladiator> has it ? like in what sense ?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[05:51] <Relampago> hello?
[05:51] <Relampago> i need install GCC with all libraries
[05:51] <occy> Firefox, Rhythmbox, other issues all crashing on me.
[05:51] <Relampago> who can help me ???????
[05:51] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: To upgrade the kernel I need an internet connection. Mine's an old laptop with only a wifi card for internet. In order to use the wifi card, I need to use ndiswrapper. To use ndiswrapper I need the Windows driver. To get the Windows driver I need USB working to copy it from a flash drive. And now you're telling me to get USB I need to upgrade my kernel?
[05:51] <Relampago> uh????????
[05:51] <occy> I can't afford that since I do web dev.
[05:51] <shutdownrunner> Cerin: you have to boot without acpi
[05:51] <thegladiator> occy, there you go , i thought i was a loner in this world with FF crashin every now and then
[05:51] <encompass> how can I play midi file?
[05:52] <Relampago> damn :|
[05:52] <Relampago> grr!
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Relampago,  apt-get install build-essential
[05:52] <occy> thegladiator, don't say that... :(  I was hoping it was just a borked install
[05:52] <thegladiator> occy, have u tried mozilla internet application suite ?
[05:52] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: What does acpi have to do with this? And how would I boot without it?
[05:52] <occy> thegladiator, heh, nah
[05:52] <thegladiator> occy, its nice believe me
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Relampago,  if you open synaptic and search for what you need you can get them there too ;)
[05:52] <occy> as a last resort, I might try and switch to KDE and Konq.
[05:53] <Relampago> :o
[05:53] <occy> if that doesn't work.... it's off to apple store
[05:53] <occy> heh
[05:53] <Relampago> wait..
[05:53] <thegladiator> occy, i had no trouble getting to "those" sites caring less about other things
[05:53] <Cerin> So to sum up, in order to upgrade my kernel, I need to upgrade my kernel. Sounds like I'm screwed :(
[05:53] <thegladiator> ;d
[05:53] <shutdownrunner> Cerin: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find line beginning with kernel e.g. kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k7 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash and add "acip=off" after splash
[05:53] <chemaFPA> Donde esta el xinitrc en ubuntu???
[05:53] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:53] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: Ok, but what will that do that will help me?
[05:53] <Relampago>  chemaFPA  locate xinitrc
[05:54] <shutdownrunner> reboot and your flashdrive might work.
[05:54] <Aridese> hey guys -- i'm trying to install liballegro4.1 which is a universe package with apt-get, but it doesn't find it
[05:54] <thegladiator> kde has been fairly solid than nau-restart-ilus
[05:54] <occy> thegladiator, haha
[05:54] <thegladiator> ;d
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Aridese,  search it in synaptic maybe changed names/something else replaced it
[05:55] <Aridese> ok gnomefreak
[05:55] <shutdownrunner> Cerin: in many cases disabling acpi helps. I found a message in some mailing list that disabling acip helped someone who had similar problems to yours
[05:55] <Aton> am i so stupid or somthing whatever i try to do to install the java plugin for firefox returns in error or missing somthing
[05:56] <gnomefreak> !java
[05:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:56] <thegladiator> Amaranth, dont u think ubuntu should be a 2 cd distro ?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> noooooooooooooo
[05:56] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: You mean add "acpi=off", right? Not "acip=off"?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> 1 is enough :)
[05:56] <shutdownrunner> Cerin: yes. a typo:P
[05:56] <shutdownrunner> but don't add ""
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> acpi=off, or noacpi      i think.
[05:57] <peterMasiar> ubotu, i follow RestrictedFormats page but cannot install "java-package" thing
[05:57] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, peterMasiar
[05:57] <thegladiator> no 2 is enuf ;d
[05:57] <gnomefreak> if it was 2 you have the ability to install stuff ull never need
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> thers also the similer noapic,
[05:57] <shutdownrunner> Dr_WIllis: I guess there's no difference
[05:57] <thegladiator> nah its like tons of applications like amarok and stuff
[05:57] <aTypical> Is there an eclipse.deb file somewhere?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> peterMasiar, java-package isnt on the java site its in breezy repos
[05:57] <shadox> is there also another very interessed distro?
[05:57] <thegladiator> aTypical, do this...
[05:57] <peterMasiar> both synaptic and apt-get cannot find it - and i enabled all repositories
[05:58] <dpupp> need a little help getting my third monitor going.....
[05:58] <thegladiator> aTypical, click on applications > add applications
[05:58] <rraajj> peterMasiar: Still can't find it in the multiverse section?
[05:58] <_jason> peterMasiar, did you pastebin your sources.list?
[05:58] <thegladiator> aTypical, are u there ?
[05:58] <peterMasiar> rraajj - yup, cannot fing "java-package"
[05:58] <aTypical> Yup
[05:58] <Relampago>  gnomefreak  thanks :)
[05:59] <bz0b> hey all
[05:59] <dpupp> how do i get two video cards working together?
[05:59] <thegladiator> aTypical, app>add>checkout under programming
[05:59] <thegladiator> i think u shud see eclipse
[05:59] <DShepherd> hey I cant get sound in google.videos. :(. any reason why
[05:59] <thegladiator> do you ?
[05:59] <theconartist> dpupp, sli
[06:00] <dpupp> theconartissli? what is that?
[06:00] <_jason> DShepherd, do you use esd?
[06:00] <peterMasiar> _jason, i have problem connecting to pastebin - i will paste sources.list here except comments - my apologies
[06:00] <aTypical> thegladiator, Add Applications didn't open a window for me.  I should say I'm using Dapper Drake if that matters.
[06:00] <thegladiator> aTypical, do you see ? please do temme
[06:00] <_jason> peterMasiar, use #flood!
[06:00] <bz0b> i just reinstalled ubuntu but just server, so like no extra packages, but then i tried apt-getting gnome-desktop-environment, but X wont start, do I need to configure it, or do I install X server, and if so, how do I do the one i need to
[06:00] <DShepherd> _jason: yeah. I tried killing it. that doesnt work though
[06:01] <thegladiator> it doesnt ? oh ! gues its due to dapper
[06:01] <thegladiator> it opens here fine and i can see eclipse
[06:01] <DShepherd> _jason: its so dumb anyways, y is it even in ubuntu. I hope dapper gets rid of it.. or a better verions is released
[06:01] <dpupp> theconartist, what does SLI stand for?
[06:01] <_jason> DShepherd, I think it should work if you kill esd and start firefox up again, make sure nothing else is playing sound.  But the problem is the java plugin wants to use files for esd that don't exist... if you search the forums you will find plenty of fixes
[06:01] <thegladiator> eclipse ide for java
[06:01] <thegladiator> how old is daper ?
[06:02] <aTypical> thegladiator, it's the latest and greatest.
[06:02] <DShepherd> _jason: ok I will try that. Thanks
[06:02] <aTypical> thegladiator, is there a command line I can run to get the add applications menu?
[06:02] <DShepherd> gaim 2 beta!! :-D
[06:02] <gnomefreak> is there a site that you can download mp3s for free or are they all pay now?
[06:02] <bz0b> can someone please help me?
[06:03] <aTypical> thegladiator, maybe I'll have to sign up to a mailing list.
[06:03] <peterMasiar> _jason, posted in #flood
[06:03] <thegladiator> lemme check
[06:03] <bz0b> ubotu tell gnomefreak about restricted
[06:03] <aTypical> thegladiator, it asked for my password, but just never opened anything.
[06:03] <gnomefreak> bz0b thats not gonna help
[06:03] <DShepherd> _jason: what is the command to laugh alsa?
[06:03] <dpupp> i did an LSCPI in a terminal and im getting this: 0000:01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[06:03] <thegladiator> did u give ur password ?
[06:03] <aTypical> Yes, and I'm sure I gave the right one. :-)
[06:04] <thegladiator> aTypical, what did you type there ? your user pass ?
[06:04] <aTypical> Yes
[06:04] <_jason> DShepherd, to laugh alsa?
[06:04] <thegladiator> what is the command line for "dd applications " package ?
[06:04] <DShepherd> _jason: sorry,,, :-D launch alsa
[06:04] <thegladiator> add*
[06:05] <Aridese> how do i enable universe packages so that apt-get/synaptic can see them?
[06:05] <thegladiator> _jason, do you know how could i open add applications in command line ?
[06:05] <bz0b> can someone tell me how to reconfigure my gdm
[06:05] <gnomefreak> bz0b,  i didnt ask how to set up for mp3 downloads i asked for a free download site
[06:05] <korhalf> bz0b, what ar eyou tryign to do?
[06:05] <thegladiator> aTypical, did you check synaptic ?
[06:05] <_jason> thegladiator, gnome-app-install
[06:05] <Seveas> !tell Aridese about universe
[06:05] <thegladiator> aTypical, ^
[06:05] <aTypical> thegladiator, no, but I will.
[06:06] <Aridese> thx
[06:06] <thegladiator> got the command ? synaptic must have i guess , check _jasons_ command
[06:06] <bz0b> gnomefreak: google for mp3's with some parameters like intitle:"Index Of" Artist
[06:06] <bz0b> korhalf: trying to get my window manager to start
[06:06] <bz0b> korhalf: i just installed ubuntu, but i did the server install
[06:06] <thegladiator> i am impressed with nautilus respawning capability
[06:07] <_jason> DShepherd, let me find you a forum post that was helpful, do you want to go with esd or alsa?
[06:07] <bz0b> korhalf: so i have no gui right now, but i just did a apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, and it wont start
[06:07] <gnomefreak> startx bz0b
[06:07] <aTypical> thegladiator, _jason , thank you.  Running it in a terminal I do see that it segfaults.
[06:07] <bz0b> gnomefreak: tried that
[06:07] <thegladiator> bz0b, its besides the topic , but how do you google for mp3 ?
[06:08] <DShepherd> _jason: alsa. thanks that would be nice
[06:08] <aTypical> thegladiator, I also see that I can add eclipse under synaptic.
[06:08] <thegladiator> thegladiator, ah , check out synaptic
[06:08] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  you dont :(
[06:08] <n0dl> i am having problems viewing japanese fonts specifically the kanji
[06:08] <thegladiator> aTypical, cool :)
[06:08] <shadox> brb
[06:08] <n0dl> does anyone know what package i need?
[06:08] <shadox> evening meal :D
[06:08] <_jason> DShepherd, esd:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743 alsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101438
[06:08] <gnomefreak> you cant even search for free downloads it doesnt give you anything free
[06:08] <DShepherd> _jason: thanks
[06:09] <bz0b> thegladiator: well if i were looking for an avenged sevenfold song, i would go to google.com and type in intitle:"Index Of" Avenged Sevenfold
[06:09] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, really ? i read in papers that google mp3 is launched
[06:09] <mgedmin> bz0b, try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <Siph0n> lol isnt it illegal to download mp3s for free?
[06:09] <bz0b> mgedmin: oh yeah, woops wrong apt-get thanks mgedmin
[06:09] <jenda_very_busy> Siph0n: depends
[06:09] <thegladiator> bz0b, thanks. i thought google had mp3.google.com !
[06:09] <mjr> Siph0n, depends on the mp3 and jurisdiction
[06:09] <Siph0n> jenda_very_busy, k :)
[06:10] <kriaze> test
[06:10] <thegladiator> actually yes and i was exploring if i was missing that feature here :D
[06:10] <bz0b> thegladiator: soon
[06:10] <encompass> how can I play midi files with ubuntu?
[06:10] <thegladiator> rather than the sheer interest in downloading from g! , when i have gnutella
[06:10] <thegladiator> i see
[06:10] <bz0b> yeah
[06:10] <gnomefreak> http://www.mp3shits.com/   something about having the words shits in the url kinda scares me from downloading from there
[06:10] <gnomefreak> see my point :(
[06:11] <alexissoft> where can i find the homepage of katapult ?
[06:11] <aTypical> thegladiator, doesn't seem to want to install there either.  Lots of unresolved dependencies.  At this point I'll wait.  Maybe Dapper is a little too new.
[06:11] <bz0b> alexissoft: have you tried googling for it?
[06:11] <alexissoft> bz0b, yes
[06:11] <kriaze> Hello people I'm a noob with Linux and have a question if somebody could answer it please. I have a PC running <spit> XP that is networked yet I can't see it from this machine, is it possible to use a windows netweork?
[06:11] <bz0b> alexissoft: then i have no idea
[06:11] <alexissoft> hmm
[06:11] <alexissoft> about box :D
[06:11] <encompass> how do I play midi files in ubuntu?
[06:12] <n0dl> bz0b: whats up!
[06:12] <dpupp> Im having a little bit of trouble setting up my tri-monitor desktop..... I was wondering if someone could provide me with some information? I wrote all the details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=585365#post585365
[06:12] <n0dl> bz0b: its bryan from school
[06:12] <bz0b> n0dl: hey
[06:12] <bz0b> n0dl: YO!
[06:12] <bz0b> n0dl: dude i was looking for you in here
[06:12] <n0dl> lol
[06:12] <n0dl> i c
[06:12] <bz0b> yeah
[06:12] <everett_> Why the hell did the Ubuntu maintainers decide to change the debian package versions.
[06:12] <encompass> ok ok... does anyone know?
[06:12] <bz0b> i finally installed ubuntu again
[06:12] <everett_> libgtkglext1 and -dev is installed, BUT.
[06:12] <n0dl> cool cool
[06:12] <alexissoft> thanks bz0b
[06:12] <n0dl> hey check my desktop out
[06:12] <encompass> I used to use timidi but it won't work like it used to
[06:12] <bz0b> n0dl: i had installed dapper, but then i broke my install
[06:13] <n0dl> lol
[06:13] <everett_> checking for GXSM_CORE... configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 gtkglext-1.0) were not met.
[06:13] <n0dl> dapper is too unstable
[06:13] <encompass> would it be my driver?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Alexissoft what katapult are you looking for?
[06:13] <bz0b> n0dl: yeah
[06:13] <aTypical> Next question - Is the general Ubuntu e-mail list appropriate for questions related to Dapper Drake?
[06:13] <alexissoft> gnomefreak, kubuntu katapult
[06:13] <n0dl> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103806
[06:13] <aTypical> Other distros want you to use their developer list for questions related to beta software.
[06:13] <alexissoft> (https://developer.berlios.de/projects/kubuntupult/)
[06:13] <n0dl> hey bz0b do you have an extra mobo?
[06:13] <bz0b> n0dl: i did that server install, how would i install like fluxbox right now
[06:14] <bz0b> n0dl: nope
[06:14] <n0dl> bz0b ok
[06:14] <bz0b> like well i know how to install fluxbox
[06:14] <gnomefreak> http://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+katapult&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial ther eyou go
[06:14] <khermans> Anyone know video playing software that will let me watch a video in time compression mode?  Like, at 1.25x ?
[06:14] <n0dl> bz0b: did you uncomment and get fluxbox?
[06:14] <bz0b> n0dl: yes
[06:14] <n0dl> bz0b: let me guess you cant access a term right?
[06:14] <khermans> I want to study for my final exam, but speed up my studying when watching these lectures
[06:14] <bz0b> n0dl: let me try
[06:15] <everett_> khermans, I think mplayer supports that.
[06:15] <n0dl> bz0b: do startx
[06:15] <bz0b> n0dl: that is  what i just did
[06:15] <bz0b> n0dl: let me see if i can start it
[06:15] <bz0b> n0dl: i am getting an error
[06:15] <khermans> everett_, where is the option, i have it open now
[06:15] <bz0b> n0dl: connection is refused
[06:16] <greenpenguin13> quick way to convert a load of pngs to gifs?
[06:16] <khermans> greenpenguin13, imagemagick
[06:16] <greenpenguin13> ta
[06:17] <everett_> right click on the video window, look for anything that might do it.
[06:17] <everett_> It's been awhile since I've used mplayer. :/
[06:17] <gnomefreak> bz0b, why did you do a server install if you want a desktop? im just asking :(
[06:17] <ertan> selam
[06:17] <khermans> bz0b, its easy to get your desktop after a server install
[06:17] <bz0b> k
[06:18] <khermans> bz0b, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for KDE, or xubuntu-desktop for XFCE
[06:18] <ertan> guteb abend
[06:18] <ertan> guten abend
[06:18] <ertan> zun ersten mal hier
[06:19] <ertan> zum
[06:19] <bz0b> khermans: i want fluxbx
[06:19] <ertan> was geht hier ab?
[06:19] <bz0b> khermans: don't worry, i got someone helping me already
[06:20] <Knorrie> ertan: hi, the language on this channel is english, perhaps you're looking voor #ubuntu-de? :)
[06:20] <ertan> thank for the info
[06:21] <Knorrie> ertan: np welcome!
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> what no flux-desktop? :P
[06:21] <Knorrie> ertan: this is the main support channel for ubuntu-users, also see the topic
[06:21] <MrCoffee> eeer, im newb to linux and want to load up a game...i dont know how to instal wine and im soo confused
[06:21] <thegladiator> flux is that light desktop ? the one in which right clicks brings the app menu ?
[06:22] <thegladiator> MrCoffee, try out linuz based games actually
[06:22] <MrCoffee> i want to play Ragnarok...^^ and Half-Life2
[06:22] <ishit> anybody on how to use the effects in m player
[06:23] <thegladiator> i am not an expert but you might have lots to work on wine to get many games working , MS libraries are mostly difficult to  simualte in Wine
[06:23] <MrCoffee> ok soo.....anything else i shud try?
[06:23] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, yes
[06:23] <ishit> anybody on how to use the effects in m player
[06:23] <MrCoffee> cause my budy is coming over for a lan party....and hes expecting me to play ragnaork adn some hl2
[06:24] <thegladiator> MrCoffee, you dont have XP ? removed it ?
[06:24] <MrCoffee> eeer, i broked it
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Cedega i hear can do HL2 - but not tried it yet.
[06:24] <MrCoffee> so i wiped it
[06:24] <ertan> i have home 512 kb adsl.i have install ubuntu on vmware.i have download a file from internet with ubuntu.download speed is 100 kb!!!!.with windows maximum only 60 kb!?this is perfect!!!
[06:24] <Fujoor> w
[06:24] <thegladiator> try out linux games then
[06:24] <MrCoffee> like?
[06:25] <MrCoffee> give me a few suggestions
[06:25] <thegladiator> does snaptic have support for games ?
[06:25] <thegladiator> i am not a gamer , too old for that , 21 actually ;d
[06:25] <Cerin> shutdownrunner: That worked, thanks.
[06:25] <MrCoffee> that wut i was trying...to get ragnaork to run through it....haha npnp,
[06:25] <MrCoffee> im almost 16...
[06:25] <Fujoor> w
[06:26] <thegladiator> MrCoffee, http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=158965
[06:26] <MrCoffee> ok
[06:26] <ishit> while seeing a movie can i hav an effect of the aski code flowing like a matrix effect
[06:26] <CaptainMorgan> #php
[06:26] <beruic> Anyone with Wine-experience in here???
[06:26] <CaptainMorgan> #ibmthinkpad
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> lhahah
[06:27] <MrCoffee> thanks :)
[06:27] <nunux> hi all
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> howdy
[06:27] <thegladiator> np...that helps ?
[06:27] <VincentMX> why does ubuntu use USplash instead of BootSplash? BootSplash has much more bling bling and is very pimp as well
[06:27] <everett_> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../lib/libnetcdf_c++.so: undefined reference to `std::basic_streambuf<char, std::char_traits<char> >::_M_out_cur_move(long)'
[06:27] <everett_> What does that say to you?
[06:28] <everett_> For the more advanced people. :/
[06:28] <cruss> does ubuntu supply updated kernels?
[06:28] <everett_> Yes cruss.
[06:28] <thegladiator> VincentMX, bling bling bling ? :) yeah even i noticed that
[06:28] <beruic> Anyone with Wine-experience on Ubuntu in here???
[06:28] <zTrackilier> is there anyone here the doesn't use KDE or Gnome?
[06:28] <thegladiator> wine!
[06:28] <cruss> what is the latest that it has in the release version?
[06:28] <nunux> my ubuntu looks to have bad driver or something else because it run slow on my athlon 64 3500+ whit 1g ram
[06:28] <SAM_theman> yo guys
[06:28] <ishit> beruic, yea i use wine on ubuntu
[06:28] <SAM_theman> :D
[06:28] <thegladiator> yo SAM
[06:28] <gnomefreak> zTrackilier, what desktop are you wanting to know about?
[06:29] <everett_> 2.6.12-10
[06:29] <MrCoffee> im running a 1.7ghz intel with 512ram and its faster than windows
[06:29] <hyakuhei> evening all, what stuff do I need to apt-get to set up C development stuff
[06:29] <SAM_theman> i am about to install kde for ubuntu is the command only "sudo apt-get install kde"?
[06:29] <SAM_theman> because its installing
[06:29] <zTrackilier> i just want to know if there is something else just as good as both KDE and Gnome
[06:29] <thegladiator> whch the best desktop for ubuntu after gnome/kde ?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Im alergic to Bling Bling, and Pimping things gives me a rash.
[06:29] <cruss> does anyone provide updated kernel binaries for 2.6.14?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <zTrackilier> both are great imo
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  define 'best' :P
[06:29] <beruic> ishit: How do I uninstall apps?
[06:29] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, c development ?
[06:29] <zTrackilier> gnomefreak, already did that
[06:29] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, looks
[06:29] <nunux> someone can help me to config?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> XFCE is good lightweight and still has options like gnome/kde
[06:30] <hyakuhei> thegladiator: gcc etc
[06:30] <zTrackilier> just wanted to know about XFCE.. is it anygood
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  best for my old laptop = xfce, best for my HIGH END machine = depends. :P
[06:30] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, nothing more nothing less ;d
[06:30] <ishit> beruic, wat exactly do u want to instal
[06:30] <VincentMX> beruic, sudo apt-get remove {program}
[06:30] <hyakuhei> zTrackilier: XFCE is great
[06:30] <thegladiator> nice!
[06:30] <SAM_theman> gnomefreak thats it?
[06:30] <MrCoffee> wut XFCE?
[06:30] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, its there
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  you Bling Bling Addict!
[06:30] <beruic> ishit: I have installed. Want to get rid of it...
[06:30] <gnomefreak> zTrackilier, the command wasnt for you it was for sam
[06:30] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, he he ;d
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  E17 is  full of eye candy..but it crashes every 5 min.
[06:31] <hyakuhei> thegladiator: I know gcc is in apt, but stuff like libstd++ etc etc, should be packaged up somewhere
[06:31] <MrCoffee> anyone got anything cool i can do with ubuntu linux?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  then theres that transparency features you can enable in gnome an KDE for more eye-pleasure
[06:31] <ishit> beruic, ok open synaptic, type wine, n in the list ull find 'xine apps' click on that n uninstal
[06:31] <VincentMX> thegladiator, why doesn't ubuntu use BootSplash by default?
[06:31] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, gcc is there in ur installation i guess
[06:31] <SAM_theman> guys i really want to know somthing
[06:31] <MrCoffee> ask away sam
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> MrCoffee,  go play "Slune" its cool.
[06:32] <SAM_theman> i am trying to change my spash screen how i login as root
[06:32] <Ignite> MrCoffee, install supertux thats always fun :D
[06:32] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis,yes ;d i know that one ...looking for more
[06:32] <MrCoffee> eer wut does it do?
[06:32] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, go to terminal and check if there is gcc
[06:32] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, most installations have gcc , type gcc at terminal and see
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  "liquidwars"
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  oh wait thats a game. :P
[06:33] <beruic> ishit: How do i get win32 shortcuts to work?
[06:33] <MrCoffee> haha its a gmae :P
[06:33] <edustin_> what SAM_theman you don't login as root --- sudo
[06:33] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, damn ;d no games
[06:33] <SAM_theman> hmm
[06:33] <hyakuhei> thegladiator: ubuntu doesnt ship with gcc
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,   Bah! games are what computers were invented for!
[06:33] <SAM_theman> yes it does
[06:33] <SAM_theman> gcc -v
[06:33] <edustin_> ubotu tell sam the ban aobut sudo
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> gcc is on the cd i think. not installed by default.
[06:33] <MrCoffee> yeah, eer, so wut something fun i can do to waste time
[06:33] <rev> is there a way to get hardware accelaration working under the 2.6.15 kernel for ATI cards?
[06:33] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, thats news for me ;d i thought they were . check dude it really is , gcc is life to many
[06:33] <hyakuhei> SAM_theman: no, it doesnt, not in breezy, you have to apt-get it from the cd etc
[06:33] <edustin_> ubotu tell SAM_theman about sudo
[06:33] <ishit> beruic, so did u manage the uninstal?? - u gotta 1rst instal win32 codecs
[06:34] <Ignite> anyone know how i can change my resolution higher than 1024x768 i just bought a new monitor?
[06:34] <MrCoffee> eer gotta go for a bit ttyl
[06:34] <thegladiator> Dr_Willis, yes i know that ;d
[06:34] <Happuf> Ignite: reconfigure X.
[06:34] <SAM_theman> i  know how to do sudo but
[06:34] <SAM_theman> this command don't work
[06:34] <SAM_theman> sudo cp </home/samuelp/>/mac-splash.png  /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/
[06:34] <n0dl> can someone help me i cant see japansee fonts on firefox
[06:34] <Ignite> Happuf, only problem is i don't know the driver for my new monitor is there some kind of default i can use?
[06:34] <n0dl> im using the newest version
[06:35] <n0dl> 1.7
[06:35] <n0dl> can someone help me out?
[06:35] <SAM_theman> ?
[06:35] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, do one thing...click on applications , add package
[06:35] <SAM_theman> 1.5 i get japness fonts
[06:35] <gnomefreak> 1.7 what?
[06:35] <beruic> ishit: now i'm confused, no I didn't get it uninstalled.
[06:35] <SAM_theman> dude you mean 1.5
[06:35] <n0dl> SAM_theman: yeh
[06:35] <n0dl> SAM_theman: think you can help me out?
[06:35] <edustin_> SAM_theman, hmmm   what error is it giving you?
[06:36] <SAM_theman> havn't found out what the heck it is
[06:36] <ishit> beruic, y r u confused
[06:36] <Happuf> Ignite: atleast i didnt need any drivers with my monitors. I just reconfigured X and it worked. Do i think it uses some default drivers.
[06:36] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, it definitely comes with breezy
[06:36] <nunux> what synaptic paquage i need ton install for an AMD athlon 64 cpu whit gefore 6800 sli graphic card?
[06:36] <SAM_theman> no no np errors only the letters are like german or japps
[06:36] <jenda_very_busy> I'm having a lot of trouble setting up my HP 1020 printer. I can't make OO.org understand that it's A4s that I use
[06:36] <ishit> beruic, u gotta instal win32 codecs
[06:36] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, and i got it without any customising during installation
[06:36] <hyakuhei> thegladiator: for your future reference:
[06:36] <SAM_theman> *np=no (my bad)
[06:36] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, you use synapatic ?
[06:36] <beruic> ishit: searching synaptic...
[06:36] <Ignite> Happuf i'll take a look at my config and try changing the default res then restart X see if that works, thanks for the help
[06:36] <zTrackilier> is there anyway to increase the font size in "BitchX"
[06:36] <zTrackilier> ?
[06:36] <hyakuhei> thegladiator: sudo aptitude install build-essential   -   from the ubutu support pages
[06:37] <gnomefreak> win32 codecs wont be in synaptic
[06:37] <ishit> beruic, doesnt com with the ubuntu repository
[06:37] <Happuf> Ignite: just remember to select the new resolution :)
[06:37] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, try out from synaptic then
[06:37] <beruic> ishit: found out...
[06:37] <ishit> beruic, u might hav to hav the lines uncommented
[06:37] <Happuf> Ignite: but there was another way to edit the xorg.conf, but it should have same efect.
[06:37] <thegladiator> aint gcc there in breezy badger ? or am i wrong ? ;d
[06:37] <ishit> beruic, in yur sources.list
[06:38] <hyakuhei> thegladiator: please stop trying to help me
[06:38] <thegladiator> my dektop has gcc by default
[06:38] <gratuit> anyone know of a commanline utility that will simply fork and let me run things from a terminal without having that app close when I close the terminal?
[06:38] <beruic> ishit: where do i get it from then?
[06:38] <shadox> and shadox is back :d
[06:38] <hyakuhei> gratuit: <command>&
[06:38] <beruic> ishit: what source should I add?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  4.0 is but the gcc base is not installed by default if you have the main repos gcc everything will be in synaptic
[06:38] <thegladiator> hyakuhei, forget it
[06:38] <hyakuhei> the single & will fork to the background (if your using bash)
[06:38] <gratuit> hyakuhei: it's still a daughter app, it'll still close
[06:39] <Codyman> i'm trying to get my usb Netgear ma111 wireless adapter working with ubuntu 5.10.. i've loaded it into ndiswrapper (the drivers) however it says netma111 invalid driver!
[06:39] <thegladiator> thanks gnomefreak
[06:39] <SAM_theman> i love my nvidia card
[06:39] <gnomefreak> yw sir
[06:39] <SAM_theman> Geforce 4 MX 4000 /128mb
[06:39] <SAM_theman> Mmmm
[06:39] <jcoxon_> hey all
[06:39] <gnomefreak> hi
[06:39] <SAM_theman> chow :D
[06:39] <ishit> beruic, check this out al yur questions shud b answered. its a cool guide         wwwubuntuguide.org
[06:39] <thegladiator> jco!
[06:39] <hyakuhei> oh right i see what you mean gratuit, have a look at screen, that should work for you :)
[06:39] <SAM_theman> yeah for 5.04
[06:39] <ishit> www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:40] <beruic> ishit: thc :)
[06:40] <gnomefreak> ishit,  we dont use that guide
[06:40] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[06:40] <ishit> beruic, www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:40] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[06:40] <SAM_theman> thats guide is for ubuntu 5.04 and some of it works for 5.10
[06:40] <beruic> ishit: thx :)
[06:40] <gnomefreak> if you are running breezy the guiide is in the help icon
[06:40] <ishit> gnomefreak, wats wrong in it
[06:40] <gratuit> hyakuhei: ah indeed it does, thanks
[06:40] <thegladiator> breeeeeezy
[06:40] <gnomefreak> ishit read what ubotu posted
[06:41] <hyakuhei> gratuit: np
[06:41] <ishit> gnomefreak, nope. wat is it
[06:41] <beruic> I'm aware...
[06:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ishit  about ubuntuguide
[06:41] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[06:41] <ubotu> thanks gnomefreak :)
[06:42] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: the !ubuntuguide thing has been made more polite than it was a few weeks ago... :P
[06:42] <gnomefreak> !goodbot
[06:42] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I haven't a clue
[06:42] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, yes it has :(
[06:42] <ishit> gnomefreak, hey i found an awesome sources.list for ubuntu
[06:43] <Codyman> does anyone know if a netgera ma111 usb wireless adapter has support for ubuntu?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> ishit,  i have more sources than most people
[06:43] <Madpilot> !wireless
[06:43] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:43] <Ignite> Happuf, thanks for the help i now have a nice high res :)
[06:43] <Codyman> grazi
[06:43] <SAM_theman> kubuntu is installing
[06:43] <SAM_theman> :D
[06:43] <Madpilot> Codyman: try that wiki url
[06:43] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Seveas, when I use wine-emulator, should I install windows programs undet it or can I use the programs without installation from the windows partitions?
[06:43] <thegladiator> run !!!!!!
[06:43] <Codyman> bots this days... :-)
[06:43] <ishit> gnomefreak, Is it then wud u like to share it
[06:43] <SAM_theman> o o o yeah
[06:44] <Happuf> Ignite: no problem :)
[06:44] <gnomefreak> ishit,  if you go to source o matic you can get most of the ones i have
[06:44] <thegladiator> ltibor65, you might want  to install it
[06:44] <gnomefreak> !sources
[06:44] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:44] <gratuit> ltibor65: if it works from the windows partition, then I'd use that just because it'll save the disk space, I have no idea how well that works though because it's been so long since I had a windows partition
[06:45] <thegladiator> hi kailash
[06:46] <selinium> Hi guys, when I a ripping my CD's I get great speed for the first rip, then less and less until I end up at around 3.6x speed. It there a buffer or something that needs emptying? Any ideas?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> SAM_theman,  please dont im me without asking first i dont normally do private messages
[06:46] <dpupp> im trying to install a video card but im having prolems...
[06:46] <SAM_theman> SRRY!
[06:46] <gnomefreak> its ok
[06:46] <gratuit> selinium: is DMA enabled?
[06:46] <selinium> gratuit, yep
[06:46] <dpupp> this is what im getting when i run lspci, does anyone know how to fix it? 0000:01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[06:46] <SAM_theman> heres my problem
[06:46] <gnomefreak> dpupp, is it a nvidia card?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> lol nm that answered my ?
[06:47] <SAM_theman> the 6-7 line don't work
[06:47] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[06:47] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:47] <Zen> will alien convert a .tar.bz2 to a .deb as well as .rpms?
[06:47] <rev> !ati
[06:47] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Zen,  i dont think so
[06:47] <ltibor65> Thanks, gratuit
[06:47] <selinium> Zen, no, you need to compile it yourself
[06:47] <gratuit> Zen: tar balls are usually source, alien converts binarys
[06:48] <jenda_very_busy> I'm having a lot of trouble setting up my HP 1020 printer. Test pages are OK, but OO.org thinks I'm printing to letter format and that makes it fuzzy
[06:48] <Zen> gnomefreak: It just becomes so annoying to extract and make
[06:48] <dpupp> Thanks gnomefreak.
[06:48] <SAM_theman> brb kubuntu is donE
[06:48] <selinium> Zen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[06:48] <gnomefreak> Zen,  what are you wanting to install?
[06:49] <shadox> ok, just to test
[06:49] <shadox> !mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <shadox> whaha cool :d
[06:50] <theblue> !QuickTime
[06:50] <ubotu> I guess quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[06:50] <St_Iron> hello
[06:50] <TotalNewb> I am having trouble figuring out how to burn a audio CD can any one suggest a good audio burner?
[06:50] <St_Iron> cdrecord :)
[06:51] <londonboi2k3> gnomebake :)
[06:51] <Myrtti> gnomebaker
[06:51] <londonboi2k3> that will be the one ;)
[06:51] <londonboi2k3> got flu so typing is a little irrartic
[06:51] <Eighth> my lappy is driving me nutz... my music keeps skipping and my mouse is hesitating
[06:51] <Olsen> msn spaces has some logo that looks like ubuntu's one
[06:51] <Eighth> dma is turned on and i'm not doing any serious I/O except for the music
[06:51] <gratuit> TotalNewb: I like graveman
[06:52] <TotalNewb> Cool. Thanks. I;ll try those out.
[06:52] <everett_> checking for gcc... no
[06:52] <everett_> checking for cc... no
[06:52] <everett_> checking for cc... no
[06:52] <everett_> checking for cl... no
[06:52] <everett_> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:52] <MrCoffee> hey
[06:52] <MrCoffee> good mornin
[06:52] <londonboi2k3> apt-get install build-essentials
[06:52] <gratuit> everett_: there is a howto on compiling software on teh ubuntu wiki
[06:53] <londonboi2k3> @ everett_
[06:53] <everett_> JESUS CHRIST, what is up with Ubuntu? I have gcc3.4 installed and removed gcc4.
[06:53] <MrCoffee> hey can i get someone tohelp me with a slight confusion
[06:53] <_jason> MrCoffee, just ask a question and we can try
[06:53] <thegladiator> MrCoffee, ask
[06:53] <Madpilot> !compile
[06:54] <_jason> ubotu, seems to be mia again
[06:54] <MrCoffee> i just installed linux ubuntu 5.10 and i dont know how to get the package manager...
[06:54] <SAM_theman> i am in it
[06:54] <SAM_theman> kubuntu
[06:54] <everett_> This isn't about me knowing or not knowing how to compile software, this is about the complete idiocy of gcc4.0 being included with ubuntu.
[06:54] <_jason> MrCoffee, system -> administration -> synaptic
[06:54] <dpupp> gnomefreak, i have the drivers installed already..... its getting things to work where im stumped at. take a look:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105425
[06:55] <MrCoffee> how do i use?
[06:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell MrCoffee about synaptic
[06:55] <_jason> MrCoffee, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:55] <MrCoffee> ok thankyou
[06:55] <everett_> I removed the gcc4.0 package (although base is still there) and installed gcc3.4 but now the autogen isn't finding gcc.3.4.
[06:56] <anthony_> can anybody guide me on mounting my windows NTFS drive in ubuntu
[06:56] <gratuit> anthony_: man mount
[06:57] <anthony_> in terminal?
[06:57] <_jason> anthony, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:57] <paulproteus> everett_: export CC=gcc-3.4
[06:57] <paulproteus> Then try the compiles again.
[06:57] <londonboi2k3> everett_, export CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4.5 or whatever version you installed (i think) someone correct me if im wrong
[06:58] <everett_> Thanks. :/
[06:58] <Juhaz> what do you have against gcc4 anyway?
[06:59] <londonboi2k3> well i had a problem with gcc4, could not get vm to work, a little research later found abouve solution :)
[07:00] <londonboi2k3> google is my friend ;
[07:02] <Reby> bonjour
[07:02] <_jason> !fr
[07:02] <Reby> quoi ?
[07:03] <bz0b> hey can someone tell me what to do to fix this error, because when i try and startx, i get an error that says "Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/bz0b/.xsession" file, no window managers, no session managers, no terminal emulating, aborting
[07:03] <Reby> Oo
[07:03] <_jason> Reby, /j #ubuntu-fr
[07:03] <Reby> ok thx
[07:03] <Reby> sorry ^
[07:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[07:03] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, _jason
[07:03] <Reby> ^^
[07:03] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:03] <mgedmin> bz0b, you are missing some packages, I think
[07:04] <mgedmin> bz0b, have you installed 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[07:04] <bz0b> mgedmin: i am not using ubuntu
[07:04] <bz0b> nevermind i got it to work
[07:05] <lint_trap> I have some mp3 tags I need to edit on a shared fat32 drive. When I use easy tag it says they are read only files. is there some way to change that with the whole music folder?
[07:05] <Seveas> bz0b, go to the channel of your linux distribution then instead of bothering us
[07:06] <everett_> export CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4.4"
[07:06] <hyakuhei> lint_trap: could be that the drive is mounted read only, or that you dont have the right permissions
[07:06] <everett_> Didn't work.
[07:06] <everett_> I get, export CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4.5
[07:06] <GudBau> hello
[07:07] <everett_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:07] <lint_trap> how do I  mount it with read write?
[07:07] <londonboi2k3> then try export CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[07:07] <Seveas> everett_, gcc-3.4
[07:07] <Seveas> not 3.4.5
[07:07] <bz0b> Seveas: I am using ubuntu 5.10
[07:07] <londonboi2k3> it depends on the version you installed
[07:07] <GudBau> when i do the login the system show that message:
 mgedmin: i am not using ubuntu
[07:07] <GudBau> I could not start your xterm session
 Seveas: I am using ubuntu 5.10
[07:07] <Seveas> don't lie to us
[07:08] <hyakuhei> lint_trap: man fstab
[07:08] <GudBau> window now have focus only if your cursor above them
[07:08] <GudBau> To get out of this mode type 'exit' in the windows int the upper left corner
[07:09] <GudBau> my english is terrible
[07:09] <chriscwkx> Hey guys, anyone talk/walk/direct/link me through a stable/reliable way of making backups on my Breezy - (I was thinking incremental ones) - or just something that's good for disk space usage. - I was also looking for something which I can run from either a bootable CD or the terminal in case things do go wrong like they have before.
[07:09] <everett_> I think I am going to install gentoo. :/
[07:09] <shadox> sry battery run out
[07:09] <ProN00b> what happens if i install something with something like make and then try to install the package for it with apt-get ?
[07:09] <everett_> As it is very important that this software works.
[07:09] <shadox> and that makes my next question
[07:10] <shadox> how can i set a warning message when my battery is almost empty?
[07:10] <hyakuhei> ProN00b: you may start to create dependancy problems
[07:10] <Seveas> shadox, the battery monitor applet does that
[07:10] <londonboi2k3> everett_, are you sure you have gcc 3.4 installed
[07:11] <londonboi2k3> everett_, type gcc -v and it will tell you the version you have installed
[07:11] <mgedmin> everett_, ./configure will have produced more output into a config.log file; paste it into the pastebot
[07:11] <GudBau> After writed the user and the password for the login, one window show that message
[07:11] <GudBau> I could not start your xterm session. Window now have focus only if your cursor above them
[07:11] <GudBau> To get out of this mode type 'exit' in the windows int the upper left corner
[07:12] <GudBau> someone can help me, please?
[07:12] <greenpenguin13> no
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> sounds like your window manager never started
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> and it may of defaulted to somthng else.
[07:13] <CaptainMorgan> where would I write this in xorg.conf ? Key XF86Back A C Exec exec xterm
[07:14] <GudBau> i used now failsafe gnome
[07:14] <mgedmin> CaptainMorgan, xorg.conf supports nothink like this
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> CaptainMorgan,  what are you trying to do exactly...
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  - and why did you use failsafe?
[07:14] <GudBau> becouse only that show me the menu
[07:15] <GudBau> 3) gnome show me the error
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> mgedmin, sure it does.. trying to set the forward/back keys on a thinkpad
[07:15] <GudBau> and one shell
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  odd..   did you do a server or expert install? or a normal install?
[07:15] <GudBau> normall install
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  interesting.
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> i write an xmodmap file, then make xorg.conf recognize the xmodmap file so that X can know what to do...
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  try installing some other window manager/desktop from that terminal - and then exit back to gdm and see if it shows more.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  like  'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  or   'sudo apt-get install icewm'
[07:16] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan: in Gnome, try System menu -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:17] <Codyman> !wireless
[07:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  those should download/install some different desktops and add entrys to the GDM login Menus.
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> !fish
[07:17] <ubotu> hmm... fish is A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> wow
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> :D
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> I cant say that ive ever heard of "Fish" befor.
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> !pineapple
[07:17] <ubotu> greenpenguin13: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> Madpilot, they're not in Prefs - KS
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> !melon
[07:17] <ubotu> greenpenguin13: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[07:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:18] <greenpenguin13> aaaah
[07:18] <CaptainMorgan> !bot
[07:18] <whyameye> when I run JACK, then I can no longer access /dev/dsp. Is there a way around this? JACK is using ALSA as its driver.
[07:18] <GudBau> apt message
[07:18] <GudBau> impossible tu find xubuntu-desktop
[07:18] <greenpenguin13> !tell me about talk
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !info xubuntu-desktop
[07:19] <greenpenguin13> !talk
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  you may not have all your repositories set up right.
[07:19] <CaptainMorgan> Madpilot, wish it was that simple :)
[07:19] <mgedmin> GudBau, it's just ubuntu-desktop, without the x
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> mgedmin,  i was trying to rember the name of the xfce desktop
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:20] <greenpenguin13> ubuto windows is shit
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> but yea - a reinstall of ubuntu-desktop may help
[07:20] <greenpenguin13> !windows
[07:20] <xptk> somenone have a fujitsu laptop?
[07:20] <greenpenguin13> ubotu window is shit
[07:20] <GudBau> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xsYQvL59.html
[07:20] <greenpenguin13> !windows
[07:20] <CaptainMorgan> !bot don't be a smartzz
[07:20] <GudBau> that is my source list
[07:20] <Pygi> penguin, stop doing things like that
[07:21] <Seveas> NEVER do that again
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  whats odd - is that you should have a working GNome desktop
[07:21] <hcatlin> how do you install a "bin"?
[07:21] <Pygi> Seveas: thank you
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x whatever.bin   ./whatever.bin
[07:21] <thegladiator> did anyoen try Dapper Drake ?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> hcatlin,  what 'bin' are you trying to install?
[07:21] <hcatlin> the java one.
[07:21] <GudBau> what i must to do ?
[07:21] <thegladiator> is Dapper Drake ship it ?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:21] <hcatlin> Since, I can't get the package to work right.
[07:22] <Pygi> !javadebs
[07:22] <londonboi2k3> thegladiator, yeah tried it, it broke so I came back to breezy
[07:22] <Seveas> the bot is broken
[07:22] <londonboi2k3> thegladiator, very nice looking so far tho
[07:22] <hcatlin> !java ?
[07:22] <Pygi> Seveas:ah, kk
[07:22] <polpak> !java
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> GudBau,  try a 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' for a start. You are using Ubuntu 5.10 correct?
[07:22] <userr> hi, is it possible to watch a DVD of another region on Ubuntu purely through software methods (as apposed to flashing the firmware)?
[07:22] <londonboi2k3> why is the bot broken?
[07:22] <Pygi> polpak: broken bot...
[07:22] <polpak> oh
[07:22] <thegladiator> londonboi2k3, why broke ?
[07:22] <whyameye> how do I shut off OSS emulation in ALSA
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> userr,  yes - I belive most of the players ignore the region. (or so i recall reading)
[07:22] <thegladiator> like could you please tell me more londonboi2k3 ?
[07:22] <londonboi2k3> thegladiator, some of the dependencys messed up and it failed to start X
[07:23] <polpak> whyameye: why do you want to?
[07:23] <bshumate> is ubotu a Saab?  he sure stays in the shop a lot! ;-)
[07:23] <GudBau> i'm using ubuntu 5.10
[07:23] <thegladiator> you filed bugs ?
[07:23] <londonboi2k3> yeah
[07:23] <userr> Dr_Willis, what players do you recommend for Ubuntu?
[07:23] <thegladiator> i thought it shud be better
[07:23] <whyameye> polpak: I'm trying to figure out how to leave /dev/dsp open when I run Jack.
[07:23] <thegladiator> any others tried Dapper ?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> userr,  vlc, xine, mplayer,   :P those are the big 3, and their variants.
[07:23] <GudBau> apt-get install --reinstall
[07:23] <Pygi> gladiator: what do you need with dapper?
[07:24] <thegladiator> i was thinking of "ship it" if it is better than breezy badger
[07:24] <FeN|X> do i need a Linux Ext2 or Linux Ext3 partition to install ubuntu 5.10?
[07:24] <testmachine> ext3 is better
[07:24] <userr> What could be wrong with my dvd-drive that makes grinding noises periodically?
[07:24] <polpak> whyameye: is Jack using SDL, libalsa, or... ?
[07:24] <thegladiator> what do you say pygi ?
[07:24] <GudBau> reiserfs
[07:24] <testmachine> but you cam make this fs ion the installation
[07:24] <silverton> FeN|X, the installer will help you create the correct partition
[07:24] <Pygi> gladiator: if your not ready to *certain things* then better don't use it ;)
[07:24] <whyameye> polpak: Jack uses alsa.
[07:24] <testmachine> Pygi: ehmm
[07:24] <gratuit> thegladiator: dapper is a testing distro, it won't release for a while, things break in it
[07:24] <testmachine> Pygi: why shouldnt he/she use it
[07:25] <BooZee> hello.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Drunken Dapper Drake.
[07:25] <Pygi> testmachine: I just said if he isn't ready to certain things....
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:25] <thegladiator> ah i was wondering if it was a test release or the next after breezy . fine thanks you
[07:25] <polpak> whyameye: there's a howto.. lemme find it
[07:25] <testmachine> Pygi: i think thats bullshit :)
[07:25] <quail_linux>          _sudZUZ#Z#XZo=_         DDDD   EEEEEE BBBB   IIIIII  AAAA   NN   NN
[07:25] <FeN|X> ive never instaleld linux so i was told to use partition magic to make a linux partition first. should i just install windows on 1/2 of the disk and let the ubuntu installer do the rest when i install?
[07:25] <quail_linux>       _jmZZ2!!~---~!!X##wa       DD DD  EE     BB BB    II   AA  AA  NNN  NN
[07:25] <quail_linux>    .<wdP~~            -!YZL,     DD  DD EEEEE  BBBBB    II   AAAAAA  NNNN NN
[07:25] <Pygi> testmachine: he can use it ofcourse if he wants, if he's ready to face and fix the problems that might come up
[07:25] <quail_linux>   .mX2'       _%aaa__     XZ[.   DD DD  EE     BB  BB   II   AA  AA  NN NNNN
[07:25] <quail_linux>   oZ[      _jdXY!~?S#wa   ] Xb;   DDDD   EEEEEE BBBBB  IIIIII AA  AA  NN   NN
[07:25] <whyameye> polpak: I would be fine with Jack clogging up /dev/dsp1 or something like this... I have oss2jack which I am hoping to assign /dev/dsp. Then I can supposedly have multiple OSS apps accessing audio through JACK...
[07:25] <quail_linux>  _#e'     .] X2(     ~Xw|  )XXc
[07:25] <quail_linux> .2Z`      ] X[.       xY|  ] oZ(   Linux Version 2.6.10-6-686
[07:25] <testmachine> aj
[07:26] <testmachine> Pygi: sorry
[07:26] <quail_linux> .2#;      )3k;     _s!~   jXf`   Compiled #1 Fri Nov 18 12:37:17 UTC 2005
[07:26] <thegladiator> FeN|X, you want to keep windows ?
[07:26] <quail_linux>  1Z>      -] Xb/    ~    __#2(    One 730MHz Intel Pentium III Processor, 512M RAM
[07:26] <Pygi> quil_linux: stop ti ;)
[07:26] <testmachine> Pygi: i readed the wrong line
[07:26] <testmachine> heheheheh
[07:26] <quail_linux>  -Zo;       +!4ZwaaaauZZXY'      1449.98 Bogomips Total
[07:26] <quail_linux>   *#[,        ~-?!!!!!!-~        hal9000
[07:26] <quail_linux>    XUb;.
[07:26] <quail_linux>     )YXL,,
[07:26] <quail_linux>       +3#bc,
[07:26] <ggeller> Can somebody tell me why I can't print from gimp?
[07:26] <quail_linux>         -)SSL,,
[07:26] <Pygi> STOP IT NOW
[07:26] <quail_linux>            ~~~~~
[07:26] <bshumate> uhhh quail_linux:  halt!
[07:26] <Pygi> testmachine: np
[07:26] <FeN|X> i need to for school. just as a second OS
[07:26] <gratuit> can someone ban him please?
[07:26] <testmachine> Pygi: *grin*
[07:26] <Pygi> Seveas, please?
[07:26] <thegladiator> FeN|X, install XP first and install Ubuntu
[07:26] <BooZee> when I run some programs (like jEdit, the right click menu of flash) I see it in gray background, aliased fonts, it's just ugly. how can I make it look nice and groovy like the entire ubuntu?
[07:27] <thegladiator> FeN|X, dont do the other way around
[07:27] <Pygi> thanks
[07:27] <FeN|X> ok
[07:27] <chriscwkx> anyone know how I can enable 3d rendering with my ATI Radeon X 300 SE graphics card?
[07:27] <FeN|X> thank you
[07:27] <Seveas> jeea, I'm out for a sec and they crap the place
[07:27] <Pygi> chrisscwkx:  yup, I know ;)
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> chriscwkx,  i followed the binarydriver wiki and got it working on my X200 in about 4 min..
[07:27] <thegladiator> FeN|X, and do not install it in same partition , i guess your question was indicating that as well
[07:27] <chriscwkx> Dr_Willis: thats sounds good, shall I just search for binarydriver wiki?
[07:27] <thegladiator> welcome FeN|X , nice ubuntuing!
[07:27] <nlindblad> are the repositories frozen?
[07:28] <gratuit> BooZee: java and flash are programs that control their own look and feel, you will have to go through those programs to modify their look
[07:28] <nlindblad> won't we see Firefox 1.5 untill Dapper is released?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> chriscwkx,  yep.. wheinin doubt go hit the wiki and forums First. :P befor hitting irc. :P
[07:28] <Seveas> nlindblad, correct
[07:28] <Pygi> nlindblad: nop
[07:28] <ggeller> Can somebody tell me why I can't print from gimp?  Printing work otherwise.
[07:28] <Pygi> same with OOo
[07:28] <ggeller> Can somebody tell me why I can't print from gimp?  Printing works otherwise.
[07:28] <Pygi> ggeller: maybe wrong configuration in gimp?
[07:28] <FeN|X> ok, so ill set up my windows partition to be about 1/2 of my disk, tehn when i install ubuntu after, i will let the installer help me make a paration of the otehr unpartitioned 1/2 of the disk?
[07:28] <polpak> whyameye: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101125
[07:28] <chriscwkx> Dr_Willis: hehe, I thought people liked explaining things :P
[07:28] <thegladiator> has nyone tried installing Firefox 1.5 ?
[07:28] <Pygi> and please stop spaming, thank you
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> chriscwkx,  they are explained in detail ;P unles sya want to get the old "RTFM" answers here...
[07:29] <nlindblad> Seveas, so NO new versions are added to the repositories
[07:29] <BooZee> gratuit: but I've seen jedit working on a debian box, and it looked just like any other program on debian...
[07:29] <jediborger> Can someone tell me how to upgrade my "Hoary Hedgehog" to "Breezy Badger" without reinstalling?
[07:29] <thegladiator> has anyone tried out installing Firefox 1.5 using bin ?
[07:29] <Pygi> ggeller: you know, there is a lot of people here waiting for answer so please wait...
[07:29] <sexcopter8000m> Seveas will ff not even be in backports?
[07:29] <mgedmin> jediborger, read BreezyUpgradeNotes on the wiki
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> chriscwkx,  like the question jediborger  just asked.. its a FAQ and in the forums/wiki also. :P
[07:29] <Pygi> jediborger: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <Seveas> sexcopter8000m, no
[07:29] <jediborger> ok thanks
[07:30] <andrei> hello. i see via firestarter that a lot of traffic goes to port 15843. I don't know what port is that and why so much traffic. Can someone give me a hint how to find more info about this ?
[07:30] <toya__> hi ppl
[07:30] <Pygi> if you want FF 1.5 you can always compile it from source ;)
[07:30] <BooZee> gratuit: where is the configuration file for flash? (and java)
[07:30] <toya__> i think i need help with my root account
[07:30] <chriscwkx> Dr_Willis: is it this one? http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[07:30] <thegladiator> Pygi, have you tried it out ?
[07:30] <sexcopter8000m> Pygi true that, i'm a bit behind on news, is it out already?
[07:30] <Madpilot> ggeller: the GIMP uses different print settings from the rest of Gnome... there's a good tutorial on linuxprinting.org
[07:30] <Pygi> gladiator, sexcopter: yup, yup
[07:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell toya__ about root
[07:30] <thegladiator> yes sexcopter8000m , nice name you have also
[07:30] <whyameye> polpak: thanks I'm looking it over.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> chriscwkx,  looks right to me.
[07:30] <sexcopter8000m> heh, thegladiator thanks
[07:30] <Pygi> jason, ubotu is broken ;)
[07:30] <toya__> i just installed ubuntu fresh from the cd and i dont think i set up a password for it
[07:31] <_jason> agh
[07:31] <thegladiator> ;0
[07:31] <ggeller> Madpilot:  Thanks.  I'll look on linuxprinting.org.
[07:31] <Madpilot> toya__: when Ubuntu asks for a password, use your own user pw
[07:31] <DsM> anyone have any experience with getting ndiswrapper to work?
[07:31] <chriscwkx> Dr_Willis: thankyou, i'll report back if successful/unsuccessful ^^
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> toya__,  correct. thats how it works. :P
[07:31] <Pygi> toya: well, you know, by default, Ubuntu doesn't give you the option to put root pass ;)
[07:31] <_jason> toya__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Faq #1 - Hits again. :P
[07:31] <Pygi> DsM: what card do you need help with?
[07:31] <freemanen> then will flight 3 c
[07:31] <freemanen> come?
[07:31] <toya__> this is what i did
[07:31] <toya__> su
[07:31] <toya__> i typed in my password
[07:31] <toya__> then authentication failure
[07:32] <Seveas> freemanen, flight 2 is just out...
[07:32] <bshumate> andrei: you might try something like :  lsof -i | grep 15843
[07:32] <_jason> toya__, read the link i pasted
[07:32] <DsM> well itsa broadcom.. and i have gotten it to work un ubuntu...
[07:32] <DsM> un = in
[07:32] <Pygi> toya: yup, we know, read the link ;)
[07:32] <TaranisSTL> can i get help installing moneydance_linux_x86.sh    ?
[07:32] <andrei> bshumate, thanks
[07:32] <Pygi> DsM: whaat's the problem then?
[07:32] <TaranisSTL> i have it in Desktop now
[07:32] <sexcopter8000m> what's flight 3 c, flight 2?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x whatever.sh
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> ./whatever.sh
[07:32] <Pygi> copter: no, it's just a random things
[07:32] <TaranisSTL> thanks
[07:32] <Pygi> willis: not that thingy again ;)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  thats got to be a FaQ top 10 also! :P
[07:33] <DsM> but i just installed kununtu........ installed ndiswrapper-utils..... installed the driver... modprobed it...... and when in KDE to enable it.... and when i enable it... it says in abled for like 1/2 a second then goes back to disabled...
[07:33] <toya__> wow ok thx a lot
[07:33] <Pygi> Dr_Willis: agreed ;)
[07:34] <Pygi> Dr_Willis: second top: What is kernel? ;)
[07:34] <Pygi> DsM: hm...
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  i havent seen that one much.. id have to guess #2 is how to i play mp3's
[07:34] <DsM> is there a log file i can see what is going on?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  #4  how to i upgrde,  #5 - ati/nvidia setup. :P
[07:35] <Pygi> Dr_Willis: I asked that a few days ago, and everyone refused to answer me that question :'( Now I don't know what a kernel is ;)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  :P
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Cornel - is a brand of cookware.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:36] <Pygi> Dr_Willis: a few moments ago there was how to make ATI card work on dapper ;)
[07:36] <Pygi> DsM: just a moment please...
[07:36] <Toba> argh
[07:36] <andrei> bshumate, maybe 15843 is used by some windows worm. I've excluded that port from showing in the firestarter log because it was filling all the way up the windows
[07:36] <Toba> my sound is still fucked up
[07:36] <Toba> would 5.10 do that?
[07:36] <Toba> or is it only fixed in 6?
[07:36] <DsM> Pygi: thanks
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> andrei,  ive just googled for that port.. dident find any mention of it.
[07:36] <Pygi> Seveas: quail_linux is here again :'(
[07:36] <Pygi> make him stop :(
[07:37] <andrei> Dr_Willis, me neither. firestarter was blocking it anyway, but made me curious
[07:37] <Dr_Willis>  - ignore quail_linux all
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:37] <Toba> wtf is going on grr
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> andrei,  thought i twas a bittorrent port at first,.
[07:37] <Toba> I just clicked multimedia systems selector and gnome froze up
[07:37] <tritium> Toba: please watch your language
[07:37] <Hoxzer> can I somehow boot my audio device?
[07:37] <Toba> NOT COOL.
[07:37] <Pygi> DsM: read this?
[07:37] <bshumate> andrei: the lsof command did not show a program using the port?  is this traffic *incoming* then?
[07:38] <Toba> ...would it have been a good idea to reboot after a distupgrade?
[07:38] <Pygi> DsM: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[07:38] <DsM> ok
[07:38] <DsM> ok
[07:38] <Pygi> Toba: surely
[07:38] <Toba> heh
[07:38] <Toba> yeahhhh.
[07:38] <andrei> bshumate, Dr_Willis: it is a bittorrent port :) seems that it is set up in BitCommet
[07:38] <andrei> bshumate, did not show. firestarter was blocking it
[07:39] <rob954> Apparently I need to configure my firewall - so it says during bootup. And then I must set a flag to 1 somewhere. But I have no idea where I configure the firewall. Can anyone help?
[07:39] <andrei> bshumate, but thanks for the hint. will be useful in other ocasions
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> andrei,  my client must be using other ports. :P
[07:39] <tritium> rob954: depends on which one you installed, as one is not installed by default
[07:39] <DsM> ok im gonna boot that partition.. brb
[07:39] <bshumate> andrei: no problem!  don't take any wooden nickels. ;-)
[07:39] <toya__> if anyone's not busy and would like to answer my queston: what is nautilus?
[07:39] <yatesy> a file manager
[07:40] <Seveas> toya__, the desktop and file manager in gnome
[07:40] <toya__> is it a terminal?
[07:40] <tritium> toya__: apt-cache show nautilus
[07:40] <rob954> tritium: I don't remember installing one?? but I will try to frind out how it got in. Thanls
[07:40] <Pygi> toya; heh, nautilus ;) nautilus is the ship?? ;))))
[07:40] <toya__> oh
[07:40] <toya__> its the browser
[07:40] <toya__> kk thx
[07:41] <andrei> what's with this red line ? :)
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> andrei,  what red line?
[07:42] <_jason> andrei in xchat that shows you the last part you read... you can disable it in prefs if you'd like
[07:42] <toya__> anyone: is there a more themable alternate for terminal
[07:43] <mgedmin> toya__, you could try Eterm
[07:43] <mgedmin> but it doesn't support UTF-8 yet :(
[07:43] <blanky> how do I configure openssh, it's already installed, hwere's the config file
[07:43] <Seveas> blanky, configure what?
[07:43] <Agedec> anyone know how to fix this error?
[07:43] <Agedec> E: Package fglrx-driver-dev has no installation candidate
[07:43] <Madpilot> toya__: you can do a fair bit w/ Gnome Terminal - try Edit --> Current Profile
[07:43] <Seveas> It should run automatically
[07:43] <blanky> Seveas, SSH (openssh)
[07:44] <blanky> Seveas, yeah but how can I configure it
[07:44] <Pygi> Agedec: you need development package?
[07:44] <Seveas> blanky, configure what in it?
[07:44] <blanky> Agedec, not -dev
[07:44] <blanky> !ati
[07:44] <blanky> !atdrivers
[07:44] <tritium> Agedec: apt-cache search fglrx, and you'll find the right package name
[07:44] <blanky> !atidrivers
[07:44] <Pygi> blanky: bot isn't working, so stop it ;)
[07:44] <blanky> Seveas tell him about ATI
[07:44] <Pygi> thank you ;)
[07:44] <Seveas> blanky, don't play with it
[07:44] <Agedec> ok thanks
[07:44] <blanky> Seveas, the connections and stuff
[07:44] <blanky> Seveas, I wasn't playing with it man, I was trying to help Agedec
[07:44] <tritium> blanky: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto (look for the ati section)
[07:45] <blanky> Seveas, aren't there things I have to configure? like accounts and stuff?
[07:45] <Seveas> blanky, no
[07:45] <blanky> tritium, that was to Agedec not me lol
[07:45] <mgedmin> blanky, there are no things you have to configure
[07:45] <blanky> Seveas, oh okay...lol sorry guys, thought there was o.0
[07:45] <toya__> ic, this is like schema in konsole
[07:45] <tritium> blanky: :)
[07:45] <toya__> thx again
[07:45] <blanky> where's the protfpd config file, I know I installed that
[07:45] <blanky> i just forgot where *thinks hard*
[07:45] <Seveas> blanky, read the files in /usr/share/doc/proftpd
[07:45] <blanky> thanks!
[07:46] <blanky> wait, no I mean the proftpd config file
[07:46] <blanky> proftpd.config I think
[07:46] <blanky> *.conf
[07:46] <dave1> Hi, when I run ubuntu on normal mode, i get box: "sync out of range". I gather I should change graphic card settings, but how?
[07:46] <blanky> oh well I'll look for it
[07:46] <Pygi> davel: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:46] <mgedmin> blanky, /etc
[07:46] <mgedmin> blanky, use dpkg -L packagename to discover things like this in the future
[07:46] <blanky> mgedmin, thanks!
[07:46] <dave1> Pygi, and what should I enter there? Are there any wizard or such?
[07:46] <blanky> mgedmin, thanks, sorry *sob*
[07:47] <Pygi> davel: no wizards actually
[07:47] <dave1> any tutorial?
[07:47] <munzir> hi sirs, I see that for breezy there is apache2 and apache2-common, what's the difference please?
[07:47] <Pygi> davel: just a moment pls
[07:47] <dave1> ok
[07:48] <Mike_> hey
[07:48] <Agedec> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev ....is installed.  But i do get that error
[07:48] <Mike_> can someone help a newbie with a fstab issue?
[07:48] <active-matrix> hi i am doing from terminal passwd i change the password but when i log out and log in still my old paswords work not the new password
[07:48] <Pygi> Agedec: you need to have xorg-driver-fglrx as well
[07:48] <blanky> One last question, sorry for my ignorance. But how do I ssh into my computer. The service is running, I got an ssh client (PuTTY), so I log into my IP but with what login info, my ubuntu account?
[07:48] <active-matrix>  /etc/fstab
[07:48] <Agedec> thats is also
[07:49] <Pygi> Agedec: configured it in xorg.conf?
[07:49] <tiglionabbit> active-matrix: try using system -> admin -> users and groups
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  yes. username and pasword
[07:49] <Agedec> .....thats ahead of me
[07:49] <blanky> Dr_Willis, thanks buddy
[07:49] <active-matrix> but do i use sudo passwd
[07:49] <active-matrix> or just passwd
[07:49] <Pygi> Agedec: meaning? you didn't do it?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  what else were you even going to try? :P
[07:49] <ggeller> I fixed it: To make gimp print it is necessary to remove the -oraw option in the Setup Printer dialog.
[07:49] <mgedmin> active-matrix, just passwd
[07:49] <tiglionabbit> active-matrix: if you do sudo passwd, it will set the password for the root account
[07:49] <blanky> :)
[07:49] <whyameye> I want some daemons to start automagically on boot. How do I do this?
[07:50] <Agedec> I dont know, I just installed it 3 days ago.
[07:50] <tiglionabbit> active-matrix: just do passwd from their normal account.  It will ask you to type in their old password first
[07:50] <Agedec> dont quite know what im doing yet
[07:50] <active-matrix> nope it says type new password
[07:50] <Mike_> can someone tell me why when i sudo fstab -l, /dev/hda6 is my FAT32 partition, but when i sudo gedit /etc/fstab, it appears that /dev/hda6 is SWAP ?
[07:50] <whyameye> what is the runlevel for normal ubuntu boot with Gnome etc.
[07:50] <dave1> I found in /xorg.conf "HorizSync 28-49" whilst in fact I get about 51,7Hz
[07:50] <tiglionabbit> active-matrix: what is the user's name?  type "whoami"
[07:50] <MasterTsunami> 5
[07:50] <Pygi> davel:try to change it
[07:51] <dave1> Pygi, change to?
[07:51] <Hattori> if it says: can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build , how can i fix it without internet access?
[07:51] <Pygi> davel: read this
[07:51] <munzir> Mike_, yes I also noticed there something buggy in fdisk -l !!
[07:51] <Pygi> davel: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
[07:51] <dave1> it looks like it was ok
[07:51] <dave1> ok
[07:51] <Pygi> Agedec: look at binaryInstaller  of Ati/Nvidia card drivers
[07:51] <Mike_> all i'm trying to do is access my fat32 partition from ubuntu
[07:51] <Pygi> link anyone? thank you ;)
[07:51] <active-matrix> ok it worked better i was doing sudo passwd
[07:51] <Mike_> i don't remember having this problem with 5.04
[07:51] <Agedec> if it helps any, the error happens when i type: sudo apt-get install build-essential fglrx-driver-dev
[07:52] <mgedmin> whyameye, the default runlevel is 2 (you can look it up in /etc/initab)
[07:52] <Pygi> Agedec: just use Synaptic
[07:52] <NanoBCN28> Hi guys. I'm using a Prism2 wifi card, how do I make it work with HostAp interface?
[07:53] <Mike_> can anyone help me?
[07:53] <active-matrix> what do you need mike
[07:53] <Pygi> Mike: fire away
[07:53] <Agedec> roger
[07:53] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, what's your problem?
[07:53] <mgedmin> dave1, HorizSync is in kilohertz, VertRefresh is in hertz
[07:53] <Mike_> fstab -l reports hda6 is fat32, but when i gedit fstab, it shows hda6 as swap
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> Mike_: what is fstab -l ?
[07:54] <mgedmin> Mike_, fstab shows you the type stored in the partition table
[07:54] <Mike_> list partitions
[07:54] <toya__> i have the classic windows-linux problem, how's the compatiblity of linux writing on ntfs, i read linux can't write at all on ntfs, but my friend said there's a project for it
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> Mike_: you mean mount -l ?
[07:54] <mgedmin> Mike_, it doesn't tell you what is actually there inside the partition
[07:54] <Mike_> i haven't used mount
[07:54] <mgedmin> Mike_, sometimes partition types do not match the content
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> Mike_: or fdisk -l?
[07:54] <Agedec> ok i got it now
[07:54] <mgedmin> Mike_, you can do sudo file -s /dev/hda6 to discover what's there
[07:54] <NanoBCN28> toya__, yes, that's right, but it's not recommended to write in ntfs
[07:54] <mgedmin> from the content
[07:54] <Mike_> hmm
[07:55] <Pygi> toya: I wouldn't suggest writing to ntfs
[07:55] <NanoBCN28> toya__, it's not safe at all
[07:55] <active-matrix> #/etc/fstab: static file system information
[07:55] <Pygi> toya: altought there is a project for that
[07:55] <toya__> I see
[07:55] <Toba> how stable is 6 for a total noob?
[07:55] <toya__> so you guys meant the project is not safe?
[07:55] <theblue> Toba: Not very.
[07:55] <Pygi> Toba: you mean Dapper drake or what?
[07:55] <Mike_> all i'm trying to do is 'How to mount Windows paritions (FAT32) on boot-up, and allow all users to read/write.'
[07:55] <Toba> my sister is switching to linux and I want to know if I should go for 5.10 or dapper
[07:55] <theblue> toya__: The 6.04 one isn't.
[07:55] <theblue> Toba: 5.10, 5.10!
[07:55] <yikes> how do you format an external harddrive to reiserfs?
[07:55] <Mike_> i did this with 5.04, and it was very easy
[07:55] <Toba> theblue: that's what Iw as thinking
[07:55] <munzir> Mike_, you mean fdisk -l ,right?
[07:55] <Pygi> Toba: not the dapper thingy ;)
[07:55] <Mike_> is that not what i said?!
[07:55] <Toba> thanks
[07:55] <Toba> heh
[07:55] <Toba> ok
[07:55] <theblue> Toba: I wouldn't touch 6.04 until March, and even that's really daring.
[07:55] <Agedec> Ok now i get the error E: Unable to find a source package for wine
[07:55] <Agedec> .     what i typed was sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[07:55] <Agedec> ,   any ideas?
[07:56] <thegladiator> Toba, breeeeeeeeeeeeeezy
[07:56] <Mike_> oh
[07:56] <Mike_> yeah
[07:56] <Mike_> sorry
[07:56] <NanoBCN28> toya__, no, what's not safe is to write in ntfs since it might fuck your data up
[07:56] <Mike_> i meant fdisk -l lol
[07:56] <Pygi> Agedec; I said don't use apt-get when you don't know ;)
[07:56] <munzir> Mike_, no you said fstab -l
[07:56] <thegladiator> Toba, cooooooooooool
[07:56] <Pygi> Agedec: use synaptic ;)
[07:56] <toya__> How about fat32, i figured i'll make a fat32 partition since windows and linux can both read it
[07:56] <munzir> Mike_, for me fdisk -l shows it's fat32 though it's ext3 !!
[07:56] <toya__> and save files temporarily there
[07:56] <thegladiator> Toba, ask ur sis to remain with breezy
[07:56] <NanoBCN28> toya__, yes, there is not problem with fat32
[07:56] <enyc> fat32 works fine under linux
[07:56] <Agedec> Well im following a tutorial, and im copy/pasteing the cmd's he use...but im getting all these errors
[07:57] <Hattori> if it says: can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build , how can i fix it without internet access?
[07:57] <toya__> is that the best alternate?
[07:57] <Agedec> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraftHowto
[07:57] <Mike_> i was just thrown that fdisk -l told me it was fat32, which i 'think' is correct, yet when i went to edit the fstab, it says swap..
[07:57] <Mike_> which one is lieing!
[07:57] <Agedec> thats the tut im following
[07:57] <NanoBCN28> toya__, and from Win you can also read ext partitions but cannot write
[07:57] <Hattori> trying to installing ndiswrapper. make command says: can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build , how can i fix it without internet access?
[07:57] <enyc> FAT32 doesn't support ownership or files over 4gb or journalling or much permissons
[07:58] <Mike_> yes. and i'm doing all this so that i can install ndiswrapper.
[07:58] <NanoBCN28> Hattori, kernel sources should be in your installation disk
[07:58] <DsM> ok im back
[07:58] <munzir> Mike_, actually you can type in fstab anything which could be wrong. so theoretically fdisk -l should be correct ;)
[07:58] <munzir> hi sirs, I see that for breezy there is apache2 and apache2-common, what's the difference please?
[07:58] <toya__> NanoBCN28,  i c, but i think i only see c: in my computer
[07:58] <Mike_> to what do i have to do to access this fat32?
[07:58] <toya__> NanoBCN28, is there any special settings i have to do?
[07:58] <NanoBCN28> toya__, sorry? didn't understand
[07:59] <NanoBCN28> toya__, what do you want to do?
[07:59] <Pygi> munzir: just install apache2, and it'll install common with it
[07:59] <toya__> NanoBCN28, i mean only c appears in my computer (windows' "my computer")
[07:59] <Pygi> I think at least ;9
[07:59] <Pygi> ;)
[07:59] <Mike_> i'd like to be able to access the fat32 so i can manually install ndisgtk and get the wireless card working
[07:59] <Mike_> as i only have net here on xp
[07:59] <NanoBCN28> toya__, you want to mount Windows partitions from Ubuntu?
[07:59] <Mike_> but how can i do this if i'm not sure which to mount?
[07:59] <NanoBCN28> is that what you want? toya__ ?
[08:00] <toya__> NanoBCN28, and be able to read ext in windows
[08:00] <Mike_> k help toya cos female.thx
[08:00] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, if you're not sure about things, you better paste the fdisk -l output in pastebin.com
[08:00] <Mike_> m here same prob help me too thx.
[08:00] <NanoBCN28> and we'll help
[08:00] <munzir> Pygi, but what I did is that I installed apache2-common and now apache seems to work without apache2!!
[08:01] <NanoBCN28> toya__, to read ext from Windows there is an application
[08:01] <NanoBCN28> toya__, let me look for it
[08:01] <Agedec> any ideas Pygi?
[08:01] <mgedmin> toya__, google for Explore2fs
[08:01] <NanoBCN28> toya__, http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[08:01] <Pygi> munzir: apache2-common is essential part, but it won't work all ;)
[08:01] <mgedmin> I used it a few times, a long time ago
[08:01] <Mike_> NanoBCN28 all i'm trying to do is automount the fat32 partition on boot
[08:01] <Pygi> Agedec: yes, use Synaptic please ;) thank yoU ;)
[08:01] <andrei> i've tried to install fglrx: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:01] <mgedmin> maybe there's something better these days
[08:01] <munzir> Pygi, can  you give an example of what won't work?
[08:02] <Pygi> munzir: not really, but I higly advise you to install apache2 as well ;)
[08:02] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, that's pretty simple, it's 3 steps: 1) create folder you want the partition to be mounted (ex. /media/Win) 2) Output the fdisk -l to see which is the partition 3) edit /etc/fstab to automatically mount it at boot
[08:02] <jamie> hey is SUPERMAN here?
[08:02] <toya__> NanoBCN28, thx
[08:02] <NanoBCN28> toya__, you're welcome
[08:03] <maddash> how do I get rid of the "Floppy 1" namespace that's displayed in "Computer"? I've already unmounted the floppy....
[08:03] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, if you need help on any of these steps tell me
[08:03] <munzir> Pygi, ok then I will install apache to make sure apahce would work. funny ;)
[08:03] <Pygi> munzir: hehe ;)
[08:03] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: 1. done. 2. done. 3. fstab shows that hda6 (the one that fdisk -l shows as the fat32) is actually the swap partition!
[08:03] <jamie> SLIPKNOT RULEZ!!!!
[08:03] <Pygi> maddash: it will always be there ;)
[08:03] <Pygi> maddash: you can remove it from fstab tho :/
[08:03] <NanoBCN28> can't be :)
[08:03] <borgista> jamie: eww
[08:04] <jamie> what
[08:04] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: so i can't do step 3 because i am unsure of what to map.
[08:04] <Toran> slipknot sucks.
[08:04] <NanoBCN28> Myrtti, pastebin the fdisk -l, please
[08:04] <Seveas> Toran, -ETOPIC
[08:04] <NanoBCN28> Myrtti, sorry, it was for Mike_
[08:04] <Mike_> do you want me to have the fstab open in gedit on the same shot?
[08:04] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, Pastebin the fdisk -l output
[08:04] <Myrtti> np
[08:04] <borgista> nano < gedit
[08:05] <borgista> nano > gedit(
[08:05] <borgista> *
[08:05] <maddash> Pygi: I already did; I need to get rid of that pervasive icon
[08:05] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, go to http://pastebin.com/ paste the fdisk -l and give me the url
[08:05] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: hmm i have no net on ubuntu!
[08:06] <Pygi> maddash: ah, I don't think anyone tried to get rid of the icon by now ;)
[08:06] <NanoBCN28> ok, paste it in private conversation so we won't bother people
[08:06] <toya__> NanoBCN28, how do i access my ntfs partition from linux, i remembered in mandrake it was in mnt/hda1 but there's nothing in the mnt
[08:06] <whyameye> where is the list of modules that load on boot? I want to add one and remove one...
[08:07] <Pygi> toya: you know, /mnt is not standard.... /media/hdaX is ;)
[08:07] <NanoBCN28> toya__, same thing we're explaining to Mike_ , the only difference is ntfs instead of vfat
[08:07] <maddash> Pygi: just great.
[08:07] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: no, my point is, i am now on xp, i have no connection on ubuntu, so i can't ctrl+c and have it remain in the cache after i reboot into xp!
[08:07] <Agedec> Pygi, I have to build the source, because the tutorial that im going thru requires some minor changes to it.  So i cant just use synaptic.
[08:07] <NanoBCN28> toya__,  it's 3 steps: 1) create folder you want the partition to be mounted (ex. /media/Win) 2) Output the fdisk -l to see which is the partition 3) edit /etc/fstab to automatically mount it at boot
[08:07] <whyameye> I don't want snd-pcm-oss to load at boot time. It is not listed in /etc/modules. How is this automagically being loaded?
[08:08] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, so what do you want me to do?
[08:08] <Agedec> I have it on my computer, and everything but im getting the error E: Unable to find a source package for wine
[08:08] <Pygi> Agedec: download the source throught synaptic? never tried it, but it might work ;)
[08:08] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: i could save the grab to my compactflash card and open it in xp then paste it?
[08:08] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: use your superior knowledge to suggest an alternate way
[08:08] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, or type it
[08:08] <toya__> NanoBCN28, not sure how those work, but i'll get help from my friend later, thx a lot.
[08:08] <toya__> later all
[08:08] <NanoBCN28> toya__, no problem, read the ubuntuguide.org for some info
[08:08] <Agedec> Can you please have a quick look at the tutorial im going through, that might help.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraftHowto
[08:09] <NanoBCN28> or the wiki at ubuntu.com
[08:09] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: ok ok i will be back in a few minutes!
[08:09] <blanky> what program can I use to view swf (flash) movies on my computer, no not in the internet (not firefox plugin)
[08:09] <NanoBCN28> in the meanwhile, anyone here knows how to use HostAp interface on Prism2 card?
[08:09] <Seveas> blanky, firefox + plugin
[08:09] <Seveas> (works for local file too)
[08:10] <jahshua> hey i just rebooted, and recieved an error in the boot text..shortly after it detected my network i got an error that said Temporary failure in name resolution.  anyone know what this might mean?
[08:10] <blanky> Seveas, ah okay, cause I already have the plugin
[08:10] <blanky> now what
[08:10] <blanky> lol
[08:10] <Pygi> yes, you weren't on internet while clock was syncing
[08:10] <borgista> jahshua: that means you're net wasn't working.
[08:10] <Pygi> I really think *we* need to update the Ubuntu Guide
[08:10] <Pygi> It's Rusty, really rusty :/
[08:11] <jahshua> borgista: ah yes i had my router turned off during rebbot and only just turned it on prior to that
[08:11] <jahshua> thanks :)
[08:11] <Seveas> Pygi, ubuntuguide.org is not only rusty,b but simply broken
[08:11] <jahshua> reboot*
[08:11] <Madpilot> Pygi: there are up to date docs elsewhere - wiki.ubuntu.com, and help.ubuntu.com for starters
[08:11] <munzir> NanoBCN28, I have a problem similar to Mike_ where fdisk -l show my partition is fat32 where it's really ext3, any hint? is this a bug?
[08:11] <viktor> wich player should i use to play up my movies?? xine says that im missing some codec for mpeg audio ??? :S:S
[08:11] <Pygi> Madpilot: yea, but people are used to go to one place, and read all there
[08:11] <borgista> viktor what you need is more codecs.
[08:12] <NanoBCN28> munzir, never experienced anything like that
[08:12] <Pygi> Seveas: True I am afraid :/
[08:12] <borgista> viktor: xine should be fine. or use mplayer.
[08:12] <blueblood> Hey, what do I need to install to get sockets.h ?
[08:12] <Madpilot> viktor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:12] <blueblood> oh, damn. socket.h ><
[08:13] <Seveas> blueblood, build-essential at least
[08:13] <blueblood> yea, Seveas I got that one. My bad, typo :)
[08:13] <Madpilot> Pygi: System menu -> Help is actually fairly useful in Breezy, and getting better for Dapper
[08:13] <Pygi> Madpilot: yesh, I know all that....but people tend NOT to use it
[08:13] <Seveas> "If all else fails, RTFM"
[08:14] <freemanen>  is there any good speech regonsiton tools for ubuntu?
[08:14] <munzir> NanoBCN28, Here it's: munzir@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l |grep hda5; mount |grep hda5
[08:14] <munzir> /dev/hda5           33571       45765     6146248+   b  W95 FAT32
[08:14] <munzir> /dev/hda5 on /mnt/fedora-usr type ext3 (rw)
[08:14] <munzir> NanoBCN28, isn't this strange??!!
[08:14] <Pygi> munzir: try to use /media/ not /mnt
[08:14] <viktor> Thanks =)
[08:14] <Pygi> just as a thought, not that this is a problem ;)
[08:15] <munzir> Pygi, ok I will try but why?
[08:15] <steri> why lice-cd hangs on "Starting enterprise Volume Managent system"?
[08:15] <munzir> Pygi, mnt is still on the LSB standard, no?
[08:15] <dpupp> anyone know if the GE force FX5500 works in ubuntu?
[08:15] <dave1> i have problems with entering in X mode. I get "sync out of range". Ive tried to run x -configure, but i get "nvidia x driver not found". I
[08:15] <tiglionabbit> dpupp: I'd assume all nvidia stuff works on all linux distros
[08:15] <Pygi> munzir: that won't solve your problem, and mnt is not standard I think *anymore*
[08:15] <dave1> I've downloaded via sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:15] <dpupp> anyone know if the GE force FX5500 and get a different card because i simply cant get it working.
[08:15] <Pygi> mnt wasn't a standard never (at least I think so)
[08:15] <dpupp> ERR! my bad.
[08:15] <dpupp> didnt mean to double post.
[08:16] <seniorsepia> dpupp: my FX5200 works in ubuntu
[08:16] <Pygi> dpupp: configured xorg.conf?
[08:16] <dave1> I have 5200 too, and it doesnt worh
[08:16] <dave1> work
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> dpupp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:16] <dpupp> Pygi, Im not too sure how to configure my xorg.... this is what i have done so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105425
[08:17] <dpupp> Tiglionabbit, i have already installed nvidia drivers.
[08:17] <tescoil> My printer setting disappeared from Opera, and I'm not sure how to put it back in.
[08:17] <Pygi> dpupp: read upper link
[08:17] <munzir> Pygi, still same problem after using media
[08:17] <Pygi> munzir: I know, I told you that won't solve your problem ;)
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> dpupp: and you've said "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and then restarted your graphical interface?
[08:18] <basvg> hi all, with System->Preference->Themes I managed to set some themes (start screen, desktop stuff)... but I can't seem to set the splash screen that appears *after* login screen, *before* I get to see my desktop. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:18] <munzir> Pygi, ;)
[08:18] <tescoil> It's got a "choose file" kind of dialogue, but I don't know in what directory to look, nor really what I'm looking for.
[08:18] <munzir> Pygi, thanks for guessing correctly ;)
[08:18] <dpupp> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable? i will try that.
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> dpupp: you have to do that to enable the graphics acceleration
[08:18] <dpupp> brb.
[08:18] <Pygi> munzir: what seems to be your problem exactly? ;)
[08:19] <steri> why live-cd hangs on "Starting enterprise Volume Managent system"? :( someone?
[08:19] <dpupp> oh, yeah i did that already.  by my third monitor still comes back blank. and LSPCI still reports my card as unknown.
[08:19] <munzir> Pygi, nothing beside I was about to trash a very valuable partition because of a false report by fdisk -l !!
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> =[
[08:19] <Pygi> munzir: HEH !!!
[08:20] <highvoltage> nautilus crashes when I open $HOME
[08:20] <highvoltage> what can I do to fix this?
[08:20] <Pygi> dpupp: configured xorg.conf?
[08:20] <highvoltage> it only happens for one user
[08:20] <dave1> when I use rescue mode, on root account startx works, but when I login onto mt normall account i get "sync rate out of range"
[08:20] <Pygi> ok, I don't really know how much I said xorg.conf in like an hour ;)
[08:21] <dpupp> i dont know what more to add to the xorg.conf
[08:21] <Pygi> highvoltage: any backtrace? bug report? how to reproduce it?
[08:21] <dave1> when I use rescue mode, on root account startx works, but when I login onto mt normall account i get "sync rate out of range"
[08:21] <Pygi> davel: yes, we know...a lot of people are waiting for answer
[08:21] <Pygi> davel: please wait, thank you...
[08:21] <Pygi> Seveas: why returning penguin? :/
[08:21] <twysted> dave1 is this on a laptop?
[08:22] <dave1> i'm waiting since 13 ;///
[08:22] <highvoltage> Pygi: I think I saw a bug report about it on launchpad, I don't have any details on it now though :/
[08:22] <dave1> twysted, no, FX5200, and normall monitor
[08:22] <CaptainMorgan> eh?
[08:22] <CaptainMorgan> !
[08:22] <Pygi> highvoltage: not even how to reproduce it? :/
[08:22] <dpupp> pygi, i dont know what more to add to the xorg.conf ...
[08:22] <twysted> dave1 hmm that is really odd do you know what refresh rate you are trying to use?
[08:22] <greenpenguin13> hello
[08:22] <Pygi> dpupp: yes, yes, I saw :/
[08:22] <dpupp> sorry. ..
[08:23] <dave1> twysted: it's abot 80Hz, while it can be max 50
[08:23] <highvoltage> Pygi: all you need to do is open $HOME in nautilus, any time, and it crashes.
[08:23] <Seveas> Pygi, because penguins are cool
[08:23] <highvoltage> how to reproduce it with another user, I don't know.
[08:23] <basvg> hmm, I *found* a splash screen that I want to use... does anyone know which config file I have to put it in?
[08:23] <twysted> dave1 try bumping it down to persay 70 or 60Hz
[08:23] <Seveas> and because I run this channel - not you
[08:23] <highvoltage> I suppose if I did, I could fix it :)
[08:23] <Pygi> Seveas: Ok, I really can't argue about that one ;)
[08:23] <munzir> Sirs, what's the corresponding command to rpm -qf in ubuntu?
[08:24] <Pygi> Seveas: yes, yes, I know, sorry :/
[08:24] <Seveas> munzir, wat does it do?
[08:24] <twysted> brb :)
[08:24] <dave1> twysted, how?
[08:24] <Mike_> sorry about that
[08:24] <dpupp> pygi, is it possible to enable two cards in the xorg.conf? ... but wait... that wouldent make scense because the card is not being reconized anyway...
[08:24] <munzir> Seveas, gives the package if given a file path
[08:25] <Seveas> munzir, dpkg -S for installed packages, apt-file search for all packages
[08:25] <Toba> how easy is it to install another video card and do a dual monitor setup in ubuntu?
[08:25] <Toba> (using gnome)
[08:25] <skora> hi, how do i convert a figure from blocks to megabyte's ?
[08:25] <dpupp> Toba, its possible, its not too hard... i have dual set up, but im trying  to setup tri-monitor. ..... thats not going to well for me l)
[08:26] <Seveas> skora, what kind of blocks?
[08:26] <Toba> heh
[08:26] <skora> i mean, in the cmd, im trying to figure out how much free space is on my mounted drive.
[08:26] <Seveas> skora, df -h
[08:26] <boulala> hi all
[08:26] <munzir> Seveas, munzir@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -S /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[08:26] <munzir> dpkg: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf not found.
[08:26] <Seveas> -h means human readable numbers
[08:26] <Codyman> i'm trying to install a gdm theme.. i click the "install theme" button under the "login screen setup" however it wont' show my .tar.gz files
[08:26] <Seveas> munzir, apache2.conf :)
[08:26] <skora> Seveas, thanks, that's it.
[08:26] <skora> ha, i was using df -v
[08:26] <skora> heh
[08:26] <dpupp> toba, you can see a pic of my setup here:  http://65.189.185.5/2005-12-18_ookami_workstation.jpg (but thats showing it working in windows)
[08:26] <Mike_> ok NanoBCN28, it doesn't let me PM you.
[08:26] <Toba> heh
[08:27] <Mike_> i've got a screengrab here
[08:27] <NanoBCN28> hi
[08:27] <kaotaja> please guys... make me linux.
[08:27] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, weird
[08:27] <munzir> Seveas, munzir@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -S httpd.conf
[08:27] <juan32> hi?
[08:27] <munzir> dpkg: *httpd.conf* not found.
[08:27] <Mike_> NanoBCN28: ==	Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:27] <Chousuke> kaotaja: ?)
[08:27] <Lagro> basvg http://www.ubuntu.ro/suport/GhidUbuntu504/index_html#convertwallpapertosplashimagegrub
[08:27] <_jason> kaotaja, make you linux ?
[08:27] <Seveas> munzir, apache2.conf
[08:27] <munzir> Seveas, munzir@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[08:27] <Seveas> not httpd.conf
[08:27] <munzir> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 268 2005-12-09 08:04 /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[08:27] <dave1> its from xorg.0.log: "(WW) NVIDIA(0): config file hsync range 28-49kHz not within DDC hsync ranges." what does it mean?
[08:27] <NanoBCN28> Mike_, ok, seems to be a restriction of the server/channel
[08:27] <nine0> hi
[08:27] <basvg> Lagro: I'll have a look thanks
[08:28] <Toba> kaotaja: o_0 what?
[08:28] <Toba> make you linux?
[08:28] <nine0> i've a little problem with sound
[08:28] <CaptainMorgan> mrkoje, was suggested to go with xmodmap... and finding X's config file..
[08:28] <basvg> (uh oh, wrong language on the wiki.. spanish?)
[08:28] <nine0> i can listen all the system sound
[08:28] <nine0> but
[08:28] <nine0> [20:18]  <Scanto> mi fai un conticino
[08:28] <nine0> [20:18]  <Scanto> bttslv@tiscalinet.it
[08:28] <nine0> [20:18]  <Scanto> scappo
[08:28] <nine0> [20:18]  <Scanto> domani verso
[08:28] <Toba> nine0: are you using 5.04?
[08:28] <kaotaja> if i have two partitions... and i want to install first ubuntu... i mean the one with red install cd v5.04... then how the hell? how can i format the things from partc and leave everything on d? and what kind of filesystem is the best?
[08:28] <munzir> Seveas, but I want httpd.conf
[08:28] <dave1> its from xorg.0.log: "(WW) NVIDIA(0): config file hsync range 28-49kHz not within DDC hsync ranges." what does it mean?
[08:28] <nine0> Toba: yes
[08:29] <Toba> do a distupgrade to 5.10
[08:29] <Seveas> do not paste in here
[08:29] <Toba> the problem is fixed afaik
[08:29] <Toba> o_0
[08:29] <Seveas> munzir, why?
[08:29] <jesseman_> !pastebin
[08:29] <Ubugtu> It has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com, jesseman_
[08:29] <Seveas> apache2.conf is standard
[08:29] <Toba> Seveas: is the sound issue that makes some sound silent fixed in 5.10 like I thought?
[08:29] <Pygi> wow, Ubotu is back, with new name ;)
[08:29] <Seveas> Toba, 5.10 also has sound issues
[08:29] <Toba> damnit
[08:29] <greenpenguin13> why the new name?
[08:30] <Seveas> Pygi, no, this is just the temp replacement
[08:30] <dave1> its from xorg.0.log: "(WW) NVIDIA(0): config file hsync range 28-49kHz not within DDC hsync ranges." what does it mean?
[08:30] <Seveas> ubotus connection is busted
[08:30] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas - on one install, sound was not working... second install - sound's fine
[08:30] <Pygi> Seveas: k
[08:30] <dpupp> pygi, what was that command again? glx......something?
[08:30] <Pygi> Seveas: something at least...
[08:30] <munzir> Seveas, I want to know which package installed that file
[08:30] <munzir> Seveas, isn't this why dpkg -S used?
[08:30] <Pygi> dpupp: fglrx ???
[08:31] <str8edge> munzir: you can install dlocate from universe for that.
[08:31] <Seveas> munzir, yes, but ubuntu does not install httpd.conf
[08:31] <andrei> i get an error when i issue: sudo modprobe fglrx (FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:31] <andrei> ) I have 5.10 with latest upgrades. Does anybody know what's with this error ?
[08:31] <dpupp> enable....glrx... or something like that.
[08:31] <dave1> its from xorg.0.log: "(WW) NVIDIA(0): config file hsync range 28-49kHz not within DDC hsync ranges." what does it mean? when i try to get in x mode i get "rate out of range"
[08:31] <Lagro> bsavg http://ubuntuguide.org/#convertwallpapertosplashimagegrub in english
[08:31] <Seveas> munzir, httpd.conf is created via a script for compatibility with older setups and should not be used
[08:31] <merly> what, if any, are the disadvantages of using 32-bit ubuntu on an amd64 machine?
[08:31] <munzir> Seveas, ah!
[08:32] <Seveas> Lagro, don't recommend ubuntuguide
[08:32] <Seveas> it's pure crap
[08:32] <jesseman_> merly: i use 32bit on a 64bit machine for software compatibility
[08:32] <munzir> str8edge, dlocate? would give the package from a filename?
[08:32] <greenpenguin13> my applications menu isnt working :/
[08:32] <jesseman_> merly: 32bit is just waaaaay easier
[08:32] <mjr> merly, a small performance loss, plus the obviously smaller address spaces
[08:32] <Pygi> Lagro: better recommend ubuntu wiki
[08:32] <Seveas> Lagro, don't recommend ubuntuguide
[08:32] <Seveas> it's pure crap
[08:32] <kaotaja> segmentation fault?
[08:33] <Arlathil> oO one of my villagers are born on christmas time
[08:33] <kaotaja> is what?
[08:33] <str8edge> munzir: dlocate <packagename> | grep filename
[08:33] <str8edge> or dlocate <file name>
[08:33] <basvg> yay, found it. it's in the gnome settings editor. Can I also set the background color of the splash screen there?
[08:33] <merly> jesse, mjr - i think i'm going to reinstall today
[08:33] <andrei> Seveas: i don't agree with you. Ubuntuguide has nice tips
[08:33] <steri> why live-cd hangs on "Starting enterprise Volume Managent system"? :( someone? please?
[08:33] <Lagro> Seaveas Why? I'm new here, sorry!
[08:33] <Seveas> andrei, yes, and it has triggered dozens of reinstalls
[08:33] <kaotaja> is format always only blank blank screen?
[08:33] <Seveas> andrei, it's crap. Point.
[08:33] <merly> jesseman_ - i have had trouble with wifi-radar and kino, and i'm just getting started.
[08:34] <Pygi> Lagro: because it's bad ;)
[08:34] <Lagro> oh, ok!
[08:34] <Crapounet> Hi
[08:34] <jesseman_> merly: yeah, i had problems back in 4.10 when i went 64bit ... simple things suddenly became hard
[08:34] <CaptainMorgan> anything specific that disrupts a system, concerning the guide ?
[08:35] <CaptainMorgan> merly what are you trying to do?
[08:35] <andrei> Seveas: we learn by mistakes. Don't tell me that Ubuntuguide has lead to user data corruption
[08:35] <jesseman_> just my two cents, but i think the ubuntuguide is waaaaay easier to use than the wiki
[08:35] <Arlathil> so hows everyone's fishing tourney going?
[08:35] <merly> captainmorgan - i'm a beginner. I'd like to have basic desktop stuff Plus DV capture + editing.
[08:35] <Seveas> andrei, on multiple occasions
[08:35] <Pygi> Morgan: it's simply...heh...not really good ;)
[08:36] <Serj> seveas why did you bott me
[08:36] <Serj> *boot
[08:36] <Seveas> Serj, ?
[08:36] <nine9> anyone has problem with sound in 5.04 ?
[08:36] <Serj> Seveas this is Jamie i changed names
[08:37] <CaptainMorgan> junior high
[08:37] <andrei> Seveas: can you tell a single occasion when important data corruption happened ?
[08:37] <Serj> but i am sorry
[08:37] <Seveas> Serj, this is an Ubuntu support channel, off-topic discusions are not welcome
[08:37] <merly> jesse, captain, etc - i also had nastiness with the rt2500 wireless driver - had to build from CVS source.
[08:37] <twysted> dpupp> offtopic but nice ppc themes wish i saw those when i had mine :)
[08:37] <CaptainMorgan> nine9, not me... but Ive since upgrade to 5.10
[08:37] <Seveas> andrei, I've seen numerous people in here who needed to reinstall or lost data to it
[08:37] <jesseman_> merly: sorry, no experience with wireless drivers
[08:37] <Seveas> and no, I don't know any nicknames off the top of my head
[08:38] <merly> before i reinstall- does anyone know how to adjust trackpad sensitivity in ubuntu?
[08:38] <andrei> Seveas, I agree with a thing though. Documentation is better to stay in the ubuntu.com domain
[08:38] <CaptainMorgan> merly,  neat trick I learned today - for nick completion, press <tab> and cycle to the member... it makes it easier to read the text
[08:38] <merly> specifically, the "touch means click"
[08:38] <rickest> merly: xset m 2 1, for example, to make it twice as sensitive
[08:38] <greenpenguin13> neat :-p
[08:38] <Mike__> jesus
[08:38] <Mike__> ok
[08:39] <merly> rickest - is that sensitity for the 'moving' or the 'clicking' or both?
[08:39] <Mike__> ok NanoBCN28, how can i get this grab to you?
[08:39] <Mike__> i'm determined to get this sorted
[08:39] <Mike__> jesus
[08:39] <Mike__> he's gone
[08:39] <merly> rickest, and if i wanted to make it less sensitive, it would be xset m 1 2 ?
[08:39] <rickest> merly: just moving.  for clicking, *if* it's adjustable (which I doubt) it would have to be proprietary software for the pad, I think
[08:39] <CaptainMorgan> merly, good question... I have a trackpad and a trackpoint... my point is adjusted under standard mouse settings.. but trackpad sensitivitiy never changes...
[08:39] <merly> rickest, thanks!
[08:39] <_jason> Mike_, you want to post a screenshot?
[08:39] <rickest> merly: xset m 1 1    , the second number is for acceleration.  if you want none, use 1
[08:40] <jesseman_> !tell Mike__ about pastebin
[08:40] <merly> CaptainMorgan,  thanks for the tab i don't know if highlighting works when you mention multiple nicks...
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> merly - it does
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> try it
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> rickest, where does xset go?
[08:41] <CaptainMorgan> I misssed the file..
[08:41] <sexualpotatoes> hey my cousin wants to know if you can access FAT32 partition through ubuntu, can you? and is there prog for NTFS?
[08:41] <aTypical> sexualpotatoes, yes you can.
[08:41] <tescoil> Does lpr send stuff to cups or are they independent?
[08:41] <rickest> CaptainMorgan: any cmdline
[08:41] <sexualpotatoes> atypical only for FAT32 right?
[08:42] <andrei> please help with this fglrx.. did anyone succed installing it recently (with the help from help.ubuntu.com) ?
[08:42] <aTypical> sexualpotatoes, and yes there is a kernel module that can be added that will give you ntfs support too.
[08:42] <dpupp> is there a generic driver i can use to initiate my nvidia video card in my xorg?
[08:42] <_jason> sexualpotatoes, you can read and write fat32, but only read ntfs
[08:42] <CaptainMorgan> rickest, the trackpoint or trackpad will be affected? which?
[08:42] <rickest> tescoil: independent
[08:42] <merly> CaptainMorgan, i guess i will live with it... new laptop, and whenever my thumb relaxes my pointer goes crazy
[08:42] <aTypical> sexualpotatoes, I think ntfs write is still experimental and not really recommended.
[08:42] <rickest> CaptainMorgan: trackpad I think, what is trackpoint?
[08:42] <greenpenguin13> fglrx mucked up my computer
[08:43] <greenpenguin13> actually, someone else's computer :/
[08:43] <CaptainMorgan> rickest, trackpad - mousepad with two buttons... trackpoint - little eraser head that sits in the middle of the keyboard for an alternate navigation, also has it's own set of two buttons
[08:43] <CaptainMorgan> laptops..
[08:43] <sexualpotatoes> thanks
[08:43] <tescoil> rickest: I think I'd rather use cups (or gimp-print, which I believe a part thereof), but I don't know how to scratch out a commandline.
[08:43] <Mike___> can someone who knows stuff about fdisk/fstab etc, PLEASE help me
[08:43] <CaptainMorgan> merly, know the feeling..
[08:44] <Mike___> i have a screenshot, and no idea how to show anyone
[08:44] <CaptainMorgan> Mike_,  what's up?
[08:44] <rickest> tescoil: actually, I think I'm wrong.  'man lpr' suggests CUPS is used except for some options
[08:44] <CaptainMorgan> don't ask to ask - ask!
[08:44] <andrei> Mike___,  www.imageshack.us
[08:44] <Mike___> hda6 says fat32 but when i gedit fstab it says swap
[08:44] <fredrifr> hi! I've had some trouble installing my Ubuntu 5.10, and now I'm sitting here with only a black console and no X, trying to run 'startx' says it finds no "/usr/bin/X11/X". help?
[08:44] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: not well-formed (invalid token): line 88, column 76
[08:45] <Mike___> all i'm trying to do here is automount the fat32 partition on ubuntu boot
[08:45] <jesseman_> !pastebin
[08:45] <Ubugtu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com, jesseman_
[08:45] <_jason> Mike_, ubugtu told you about pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:45] <Seveas> Mike___, the pastebin can do screenshots too
[08:45] <rickest> Mike___: or just cut&paste the text to a pastebin
[08:45] <merly> CaptainMorgan, rickest , jesseman_  - thank you so much for your help. i'm going to go reinstall 32 bit version and hopeeverything goes well! (this time I think I'll make a "home" partition")
[08:45] <tescoil> rickest: I think I understand print filters now about as much as I did when you had to write them yourself.
[08:45] <Mike___> how does pastebin do screen shots?
[08:45] <jesseman_> merly, good luck!
[08:45] <CaptainMorgan> fredrifr, serioius trouble.. unless others recommend differnt.. I reinstalled mine when it happened
[08:45] <Mike___> i cannot cut text from .png file
[08:45] <rickest> tescoil: hehe, it's a moving target for sure
[08:45] <_jason> Mike_, the bottom says 'screenshot', save it and then browse to it
[08:45] <Mike___> ok, i'll give it a shot (geddit
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan> merly, good luck
[08:46] <Mike___> haha
[08:46] <Mike___> double pun
[08:46] <fredrifr> CaptainMorgan: I've got the case of corrupt partially corrupt CDs..
[08:46] <dpupp> thanks twysted
[08:46] <Mike___> because i'm giving it a gedit shot
[08:46] <Mike___> weird
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan> fredrifr, did too.. .I did have to reburn... time consuming.. yes
[08:46] <rickest> Mike___: I realize that, but I thought if you made a screenshot, then you can probably reproduce the original text.  np
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan> but worth it
[08:46] <fredrifr> CaptainMorgan: do you believe a slower burning process might help fix it?
[08:47] <Marie-Nicole76>   STAR ACADEMY EST UNE EMISSION SCANDALEUSE
[08:47] <Marie-Nicole76>   IL EST TEMPS DE PASSER A L'ACTION DETRUISONS STAR ACADEMY MAINTENANT
[08:47] <Marie-Nicole76>   STAR ACADEMY SE MOQUE DE VOUS
[08:47] <Marie-Nicole76>   STAR ACADEMY EST UNE MALADIE
[08:47] <Marie-Nicole76>   STAR ACADEMY VOUS EMPOISONNE
[08:47] <Marie-Nicole76>   STAR ACADEMY FABRIQUE DES CELEBRITES
[08:47] <Mike___> hey
[08:47] <Seveas> crap
[08:47] <CaptainMorgan> fredrifr, i heard something about that.. bu honestly, I made no changes to my burner... simply reburned and retried the intall
[08:47] <Mike___> nowhere does it say 'screenshot'
[08:47] <fredrifr> CaptainMorgan: mhm ok, well thanks, I can't give up now..
[08:47] <Mike___> pastebin does not allow screenshots.
[08:48] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas is ruler! :)
[08:48] <dooglus> that was probably the lamest spotbot attempt in history
[08:48] <aTypical> lol @ dooglus
[08:48] <CaptainMorgan> spotbot? what's that ?
[08:48] <greenpenguin13> what happened then?
[08:48] <Mike___> pastebin does not allow screenshots. ?
[08:48] <munzir> Sirs, when I try to install apache2 it says not authenticated and it's dangerous is this normal?
[08:49] <CaptainMorgan> what's spotbot? andybody ?
[08:49] <dooglus> somebody can in with 10 different names, hoping to spray the channel with whatever their message might be.  but only 1 of them managed to say anything before Seveas sorted them out
[08:49] <CaptainMorgan> appears to have an attack, no?
[08:49] <dooglus> I meant "spambot"
[08:49] <greenpenguin13> ouch
[08:50] <Mike___> lol
[08:50] <Mike___> ok so
[08:50] <_jason> Mike__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5882
[08:50] <Mike___> http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3I50KJ9BR7MZ3382PQHXYYN0CO
[08:50] <Mike___> there's the screenshot
[08:50] <Crapounet> LOL !  This 'star academy' hater attack also happens in a lame french network.  I don't see why they want to spread to freenode.
[08:50] <CaptainMorgan> lol - Seveas: hey > and then bam! gone
[08:50] <JDahl> why go through so much trouble to spam in a language hardly noone speaks?
[08:50] <Mike___> now please tell me what i add to fstab to automount my fat32 partition at boot
[08:51] <CaptainMorgan> JDahl, true.. I simply ignored it.. cuz I could'nt read it
[08:51] <chapium> yo
[08:51] <chapium> wheres ubotu
[08:51] <Seveas> dead
[08:51] <chapium> :(
[08:51] <Seveas> Ubugtu, stands in
[08:51] <Ubugtu> Dunno, Seveas.
[08:51] <Seveas> sure you do, Ubugtu
[08:51] <Ubugtu> I don't have a clue, Seveas.
[08:51] <Seveas> (now this is fun..)
[08:51] <Mike___> anyone that can help, please do!
[08:51] <thegladiator> !ubotu
[08:51] <Ubugtu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel
[08:51] <_jason> Mike__, why are you sending a screenshot of fstab anyway, you could just pastebin the contents
[08:52] <Mike___> I AM ON XP
[08:52] <Mike___> I HAVE NO NET ON UBUNTU!
[08:52] <Seveas> Mike___, relax, drop the caps
[08:52] <greenpenguin13> take note of 'Do NOT play with me in any channel' :/
[08:52] <Mike___> i am doing this only to get ndiswrapper working
[08:52] <kakei> anybody knows if http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=323043 will work on Ubuntu?
[08:53] <bpuccio> kakei: http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2005-September/004965.html
[08:53] <chapium> I swore i read somewhere about installing ubuntu from a usb stick?  Anyone got a link?
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> what exactly is a screenshot ?
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> I tried clicking once..
[08:53] <Pegasos989> Where does wine install applications? I am not sure of a exact name of one application i installed in wine so i assume it would be best to just browse them and check...
[08:53] <Mike___> ok so _jason that was cool. i erm, can't pastebin the comments because like i keep saying, i am not on ubuntu at the moment
[08:53] <CaptainMorgan> expecting a prntscr result.
[08:54] <Mike___> now it would be cooler if you could actually help
[08:54] <bpuccio> CaptainMorgan: when a picture is taken of your screen to be saved (jpg, etc) and usually shared with others
[08:54] <kakei> bpuccio so the answer is no
[08:54] <Mike___> anyone know where NanoBCN28 went?
[08:54] <bpuccio> kakei: sorry :(
[08:54] <CaptainMorgan> bpuccio, that's what I thought... but how come in Mike__ 's example it's a download??
[08:54] <Mike___> he was trying to be helpful
[08:54] <_jason> Mike__, /dev/hda1   /media/windows   ntfs   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[08:54] <Mike___> hda1?!
[08:54] <kakei> bpuccio hmmmm which one can work with ubuntu?
[08:55] <CaptainMorgan> _jason, has the correct line I believe..
[08:55] <rickest> Pegasos989: dpkg -L wine
[08:55] <Mike___> hda1, according to fstab, is an NTFS partition
[08:55] <_jason> Mike__, that's an ntfs partition you have... was it a different one you want to mount?
[08:55] <_jason> Mike__, what do you want to mount?
[08:55] <Mike___> well yes
[08:55] <Pegasos989> k, thanks rickest
[08:55] <daze1> how to run the wizard - the same as when first run - to configure graphic card, monitor etc ?
[08:55] <tescoil> rickest: figured it out.  Stole the commandline from gimp.
[08:55] <Mike___> also like i keep saying, usually just after the bit when i've said 'i'm not on ubuntu at the moment'
[08:56] <Mike___> i am trying to mount a FAT32 parition
[08:56] <bpuccio> kakei: I'm not sure, I don't watch TV really, a few DVDs and listne to music mainly, your best bet would be something like a mythTV guide, since those guys ar ethe big TV under linux watchers
[08:56] <dpupp> how do i find out the device id of a pci card? im editing my xorg to add a card.... hopefully with a generic driver.
[08:56] <rickest> tescoil: requires anything special to use CUPS?
[08:56] <daze1> how to run the wizard - the same as when first run - to configure graphic card, monitor etc ?
[08:56] <rickest> dpupp: lspci from pciutils?
[08:56] <dpupp> lcpci reviels: 0000:01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[08:56] <dpupp>  do i put: 0000:01:0a.0 as my device id?
[08:56] <_jason> Mike__, straight from the wiki (just change hda1 to whatever yours is): /dev/hda1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[08:56] <Kris> I updated to breezy and now my system boots into a shell prompt instead of X, how do I change runmode? >.<
[08:56] <Mike___> that's what we do isn't it, us newbies, we get ubuntu and the next thing we want to do is mount a shared FAT32 partition!
[08:57] <thegladiator> i get this warning when i run nautilus
[08:57] <tescoil> rickest: It's an lp command, but it specifies the printer in options.
[08:57] <Mike___> but _jason, the whole point of this excercise
[08:57] <thegladiator> nautilus:16282): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[08:57] <thegladiator> (nautilus:16282): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[08:57] <rickest> tescoil: ahh -P YOUR_PRN_NAME
[08:57] <thegladiator> is there ny thing I can do about it ?
[08:57] <Mike___> fstab is telling me that hda6 is SWAP
[08:57] <Mike___> fdisk -l say FAT32
[08:57] <Mike___> fstab say SWAP!
[08:57] <Mike___> fdisk -l say FAT32
[08:57] <Mike___> fstab say SWAP!
[08:57] <Mike___> so
[08:58] <dooglus> Mike___: fdisk knows the truth
[08:58] <Mike___> how do i know 'whatever yours is'
[08:58] <dooglus> Mike___: fstab says whatever you edit it to say
[08:58] <Seveas> argh
[08:58] <Mike___> jesus, i wish i could see him try to do that to me down the pub
[08:58] <daze1> When I first run ubuntu there was wizard, to configure graphic card, keyboard etc. It said that when necessary I can run it once again. I don't remember what should I type to run it again?
[08:58] <Mike___> anyway
[08:58] <Mike___> ok so i should ignore what fstab says?
[08:59] <thegladiator> good luck zen
[08:59] <dooglus> I bet nobody sets a +b flag on you in real life, huh?
[08:59] <Kris> can anyone tell me how to change runmode from shell prompt to X?
[08:59] <rickest> lol
[08:59] <Mike___> damn that comment outsmarted me
[08:59] <dooglus> Kris: "sudo telinit X"
[08:59] <Mike___> linux
[08:59] <Mike___> anyway
[08:59] <dooglus> Kris: (where X is a number)
[08:59] <Kris> thanks doog, how do I set it to boot to X every time?
[08:59] <Kris> X is 9 right?
[09:00] <thegladiator> does nyone get this ? nautilus:16282): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[09:00] <thegladiator> (nautilus:16282): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[09:00] <thegladiator> ?
[09:00] <thegladiator> when starting nautilus ?
[09:00] <dpupp> is this a valid busID? BusID "PCI:0000:01:0a.0"
[09:00] <Mike___> so, one line of my fstab says /dev/hda6      none    swap     sw     0       0
[09:00] <dooglus> Kris: gdm is usually set up to run in levels 2, 3, 4, and 5
[09:00] <Kris> k
[09:00] <Mike___> but i still have to add another line that says /dev/hda6      fat32   etc
[09:00] <craiga> Hi, I'm looking for DVD burner advice
[09:00] <Mike___> is that not gonna mess things up
[09:00] <craiga> specifically, what works and what doesn't
[09:00] <Mike___> having two different points for hda6?
[09:01] <craiga> does anyone have any success stories? :-)
[09:01] <dooglus> Mike___: that's bad
[09:01] <daze1> When I configure graphic  card, what should I type in video card's bus identicifier (PCI) ??
[09:01] <_jason> Mike___, why is it mounting hda6 as swap when you have hda7 as swap, was it created like this?
[09:01] <lucasvo> daze1: lspci should tell you
[09:01] <dpupp> how do i get a busID of a pci device?
[09:01] <Mike___> sure fdisk -l shows that hda7 is the swap, yes
[09:02] <Mike___> but please understand this part
[09:02] <Mike___> when i gedit fstab
[09:02] <lucasvo> dpupp: lspci
[09:02] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:02] <Mike___> there is a line saying /dev/hda6      swap
[09:02] <Ubugtu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks
[09:02] <rickest> dpupp: lspci -n?
[09:02] <lucasvo> dpupp:  0000:00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. KT880 Host Bridge
[09:02] <Kris> hmmmmm it doesn't seem to have worked....
[09:02] <Kris> I typed sudo telinit 5
[09:02] <lucasvo> dpupp: the fist number is the pci number
[09:03] <Kris> and it stopped anacron, then started it, now is sitting there with a blinking cursor and no shell prompt
[09:03] <faked> np: Cypress Hill - Rock Superstar [0:32/4:22] 
[09:03] <dpupp> odd.... the busID is not matching what i have in my XORG.CONF for my working AGP... im nervouse at editing this.
[09:03] <basvg> hmm, does anyone know where the brown bg color is set on the splash screen?
[09:03] <JannLee> Hello everyone, can someone tell me how this works?
[09:03] <greenpenguin13> has anyone here got gaim 2.0 working?
[09:03] <Mike___> ok we sort of get so far, then... nothing
[09:03] <Kris> ok I'm back to a shell prompt
[09:03] <twysted> i do, i personally dont like it :)
[09:04] <JannLee> I'm trying to get my wireless to work
[09:04] <Mike___> jesus, i will give somebody 20 via paypal, if they can focus on helping me out for just 5 minutes
[09:04] <greenpenguin13> im getting a message about needing ssl libs
[09:04] <Kris> how do I start X from a shell prompt and how do I configure my ubuntu to default to X instead of a shell prompt?
[09:04] <Mike___> just 5 minutes...
[09:04] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, no, it won't work with the latest ortp
[09:04] <dooglus> Mike___: deal :)
[09:04] <dpupp> BusID "PCI:2:0:0" / yet when i do lspci, it shows as: 0000:00:1e.0  (im really confused now)
[09:04] <Kris> sorry mike I'm a noob too
[09:04] <daze1> when computer starts it automatically runs x, how to run just terminal without startx to change configuration?
[09:04] <JannLee> me too
[09:04] <rickest> Kris: probably '/etc/init.d/gdm start' to start x from cmdline
[09:04] <JannLee> wireless help!!!
[09:05] <Kris> try google for fstab howto
[09:05] <dooglus> Mike___: do they have to be 5 minutes in a row?  I've got a few seconds now, and I'll keep a total 'til it gets to 5 minutes.  then lose interest.  do we still have a deal?
[09:05] <Kris> or whatever your issue is
[09:05] <_jason> Mike___, I don't really know what's going on there.  Personally I would just drop the line from fstab and put the correct one with hda7... but I don't know what the correct thing to do is or why it's even like that
[09:05] <daze1> how turn of automaticaly starting X's ?
[09:05] <greenpenguin13> how would i get it to work?
[09:05] <dooglus> daze1: it's controlled by the links in /etc/rc2.d/
[09:05] <Seveas> daze1, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:05] <Mike___> ok, thanks _jason, you tried
[09:05] <Mike___> are there any other experts in here that could help me with this?
[09:06] <Linas5> hi
[09:06] <daze1> How to do it just for one time, not forever?
[09:06] <dooglus> Mike___: how did your fstab get in that state?
[09:06] <Mike___> i don't know?!
[09:06] <Kris> daze1 looks like we have the same issue but in reverse lol
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> daze1: try changing a runmode with inittab
[09:06] <Mike___> i have a few partitions all over the place courtesy of acronis
[09:06] <dooglus> have you made a new partition "before" the swap one, so that it the swap got renumbered from 6 to 7 since you installed?
[09:06] <Linas5> how do i get/what codec type things do i need?
[09:06] <rickest> daze1 my guess: rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[09:06] <eruin> I wish there was a good gtk alternative to gaim
[09:06] <Kris> ok /etc/init.d/gdm start did nothing
[09:07] <Q-FUNK> hi! which package provides those jungle sounds in the ubuntu gnome desktop?
[09:07] <Kris> I'm still at a prompt
[09:07] <Mike___> i made the fat32 partition after installing ubuntu
[09:07] <dooglus> rickest: it's better to rename that to /etc/rc2.d/K13gdm
[09:07] <Mike___> before the swap, yes
[09:07] <Seveas> eruin, gaim is gtk :)
[09:07] <rickest> dooglus: agreed
[09:07] <Kris> maybe I don't have a functional X
[09:07] <rickest> tks
[09:07] <Seveas> Q-FUNK, ubuntu-artwork
[09:07] <rickest> Kris: 'startx' ?
[09:07] <dooglus> Mike___: can you show us both the output of fdisk -l and your /etc/fstab?
[09:07] <Kris> yup, gnome is broken >.<
[09:07] <Ludens> is there a cheatcode to boot into a plain console?
[09:07] <dooglus> Mike___: sorry if you did already.  I got here late
[09:07] <eruin> Seveas, if someone made something more gnomeish, I'd love them to pieces ;)
[09:07] <andrei> eruin, gaim is the best in its area
[09:07] <Mike___> what do you think the screenshot is!
[09:07] <tfte> gaim
[09:07] <Seveas> eruin, likewise
[09:07] <Mike___> dooglus: ok, here http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3I50KJ9BR7MZ3382PQHXYYN0CO
[09:07] <CaptainMorgan> i can't decide whether I like Gaim or Kopete... using both now to test features.. dunno
[09:08] <eruin> andrei, that's what annoys me the most ;)
[09:08] <Seveas> eruin, you might want to check gajim for jabber
[09:08] <tfte> was just wanting to remove the menubar from gaim messages
[09:08] <CaptainMorgan> is Mac OS considered 'gnomeish' ?
[09:08] <tfte> do you guys ever use it? i don't
[09:08] <eruin> Seveas, sadly, I'm deep in the "msn friends" trenches ;/
[09:08] <tfte> message windows*
[09:08] <Seveas> caplink811_log, mac os is moacos'ish :)
[09:08] <skora> hi, im right in the midst of a breezy install, and there's an error recommending me to use e2fsck
[09:08] <Seveas> eruin, jabber+msn transport ;)
[09:08] <skora> caplink811_log, true that
[09:08] <Mike___> dooglus:  can you see why i find this confusing? i'm just trying to follow a few simple steps on the ubuntuguide but i feel that something is wrong
[09:08] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, I'd say Kopete is more feature-complete, but it doesn't look right on an otherwise gnome-centric desktop ;)
[09:08] <skora> i mean, mac OS is mac os.
[09:09] <eruin> Seveas, you can?!
[09:09] <Kris> startx does nothing, when I try sudo apt-get install gnome it tells me there are unmet dependencies
[09:09] <skora> not like gnome.
[09:09] <eruin> outstanding
[09:09] <Seveas> eruin, yeah
[09:09] <Seveas> Mike___, using ubuntuguide is wrong
[09:09] <andrei> eruin, gaim development goes slow because of proprietary protocols i think
[09:09] <Kris> ooooh nm
[09:09] <skora> !ubuntuguide
[09:09] <Ubugtu> hmm... ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred, skora
[09:09] <Q-FUNK> Seveas: thanks.  does that package also set the alternatives for the basic desktop sounds, against gnome-audio?
[09:09] <Kris> my windows pc is hooked up to the net not my linux box
[09:09] <eruin> Seveas, does it work well, or does it have the "this is a dirty hack" smell to it?
[09:09] <Mike___> it worked for me with 5.04
[09:09] <dooglus> Mike___: are you on ubuntu right now?
[09:09] <Seveas> Q-FUNK, afaik yes
[09:09] <Kris> of course apt doesn't work
[09:09] <Kris> brb
[09:09] <Seveas> eruin, in the middle
[09:09] <Mike___> dooglus: no i'm on xp
[09:09] <SAM_theman> ok i am back you muther-cokkies,i  was playing AmericasArmy in a tournament i lost
[09:10] <Mike___> dooglus: no connection on ubuntu
[09:10] <dooglus> Mike___: can you get on-line in ubuntu - oh ok
[09:10] <aTypical> Is Automatix usable in Dapper Drake?
[09:10] <Seveas> aTypical, no
[09:10] <eruin> andrei, well, gnome could use some gui love... I'm working on some mockups, but based on my past correspondence with gaim as a project, I'd say there's a 0% chance they'll even look at it
[09:10] <aTypical> Thanks.
[09:10] <Seveas> aTypical, automatic is the WORST PIECE OF CRAP ever
[09:10] <navarone> Mike...what seems to be the problem?
[09:10] <CaptainMorgan> oh wow.... didn't know about an "official" guide... no wonder peeps are saying unofficial is crap
[09:10] <eruin> s/gnome/gaim
[09:10] <aTypical> Seveas, that was going to be my next question. :-)
[09:10] <dooglus> Mike___: before you inserted that new FAT partition, the swap partition was /dev/hda6.  that's what ubuntu saw when you installed it.  that's what it put in your fstab
[09:11] <eruin> Seveas, amen
[09:11] <SAM_theman> installing karamba
[09:11] <Mike___> oh i see
[09:11] <Q-FUNK> Seveas: hm.  no sound files in ubuntu-artwork here :(
[09:11] <dooglus> Mike___: then you inserted a new partition.  it became the new hda6, and the swap moved up to hda7
[09:11] <Seveas> Q-FUNK, then I was wrong :)
[09:11] <dooglus> Mike___: you need to update your fstab to reflect that.  swap is hda7
[09:11] <Mike___> dooglus: yes i know messing with partition managers isn't the best way
[09:11] <Mike___> dooglus: ok brilliant
[09:11] <Mike___> dooglus: how do i do this?
[09:11] <Mike___> dooglus: just edit manually?
[09:11] <navarone> how do you manually update fstab? Is it just reboot or a command?
[09:11] <dooglus> Mike___: you run a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[09:11] <Q-FUNK> Seveas: I guess so :)
[09:12] <dooglus> Mike___: /etc/fstab is owned by root, so you need to edit it as root, hence the "sudo"
[09:12] <TTilus> Mike___: or better yet $ sudoedit /etc/fstab
[09:12] <Mike___> dooglus: and i just change the /dev/'hda6' to '/dev/hda7'
[09:12] <Mike___> TTilus: ?
[09:12] <Seveas> Q-FUNK, ubuntu-sounds
[09:12] <dooglus> hey TTilus, stop trying to muscle in on my 20!  :)
[09:12] <andrei> man o man, ati has an installer. oops, it's 70mb in size
[09:13] <TTilus> dooglus: sorry  :D
[09:13] <dooglus> Mike___: that's it.
[09:13] <Seveas> andrei, hint: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/drivers
[09:13] <chapium> anyone familiar with installing ubuntu from a usb drive?
[09:13] <Seveas> these are created with that installer
[09:13] <chapium> usb stick.. the instructions are clear as mud
[09:13] <Mike___> and then add my hda6 line at the end?
[09:13] <TTilus> Mike___: $ man sudoedit
[09:13] <andrei> Seveas, thanks
[09:13] <aTypical> Can someone help me with this Opera error?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5883
[09:13] <Seveas> aTypical, apt-get remove --purge opera
[09:13] <Seveas> problem solved :)O
[09:13] <dooglus> Mike___: if you like, this command will change all "hda6" strings to "hda7" in the file:    sudo sed -i "s/hda6/hda7/g" /etc/fstab
[09:14] <aTypical> Seveas, ha ha ha.  But I like Opera.
[09:14] <dooglus> Mike___: that's right.
[09:14] <Madpilot> aTypical: are you running 5.10? (Breezy?) Try the latest Breezy version of Opera 8.51, it works fine here
[09:14] <Seveas> aTypical, install motif :)
[09:14] <dooglus> Mike___: the order of lines in /etc/fstab doesn't matter
[09:14] <andrei> Seveas, here ? http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/drivers/ ?
[09:14] <Mike___> dooglus: noted
[09:14] <Seveas> andrei, yup
[09:14] <andrei> k
[09:14] <Seveas> andrei, and read the notice!
[09:14] <Q-FUNK> Seveas: ah yes.  it was obvious enough for me to miss it.  thanks :)
[09:14] <zion_> how to check who r logged in right now ?
[09:14] <Seveas> or you might remder X unusable
[09:14] <aTypical> Madpilot, I'm using Dapper.  Seveas are you guessing or is that really the answer?
[09:14] <Mike___> dooglus: i wonder why i didn't update itself though?
[09:15] <Seveas> aTypical, the error report says: Install motif
[09:15] <Madpilot> aTypical: ouch... if you're using the dev release, expect things to break...
[09:15] <andrei> Seveas, looks so nice. All flavors here ... thanks
[09:15] <Seveas> Q-FUNK, same here :)
[09:15] <aTypical> Madpilot, I do.  I was just hoping this wasn't one of them.
[09:15] <dooglus> Mike___: no idea
[09:16] <greenpenguin13> yep stuff beaks for me all the time :p
[09:16] <dooglus> Mike___: you probably added the partition in Windows - Windows wouldn't even know what an /etc/fstab was
[09:16] <jahshua> can  someone help me to set ident in kubuntu for x chat
[09:16] <navarone> Mike...out of curiosity...did you run into difficulties after resizing partitions?
[09:16] <dooglus> navarone: it looks like he only resized a swap partition
[09:16] <eruin> http://lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=1173397908435e95e3c67b0&m=screen <-- people like that really should go grab a mac or something ;)
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> who had a thinkpad? just switched trackpoint heads. which is your favorite? I like most except the cat's tongue..
[09:17] <Mike___> dooglus: yeah i used acronis disk director
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> has
[09:17] <Mike___> navarone: i've never had any problems after resizing partitions, until now
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> jahshua, what specifically ?
[09:18] <dooglus> Mike___: the problem was to do with adding a partition not at the end.  it causes all the following partitions to have their number changed
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: i thought fstab was like a hardwired thing, like it was an actual report of what the hardware was
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> you mean registering the nick 'jahshua' ?
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: so i didn't think it could be wrong
[09:18] <dooglus> Mike___: that's where the confusion is coming from.  fstab is just a text file.
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: ahh, i see
[09:18] <amb> If I build a kernel with make-kpkg, I lose the boot splash screen. How do I avoid that?
[09:18] <Madpilot> aTypical: Opera 8.51 works fine in Breezy; 8.5 had some (minor) issues in Breezy, but not in Hoary... <shrug> it's worth fiddling with, to get the best browser going :)
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: and had i used nix partitioning software, it would have amended the fstab
[09:19] <dooglus> Mike___: you edit fstab to tell linux what each partition is, and what options to use when mounting it
[09:19] <active-matrix> root@matrix:~# /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <active-matrix> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[09:19] <active-matrix> why is this happen
[09:19] <dooglus> Mike___: you might think so, but I really wouldn't be surprised if it didn't
[09:19] <Mike___> dooglus: right ok well that's cleared things up a lot, i still don't fully understand partitions, but i know a bit more
[09:19] <amb> active-matrix: because you cannot execute a text file
[09:19] <eruin> active-matrix, because you can't exec a text file
[09:19] <_jason> active-matrix, that's a text file, you edit it
[09:19] <navarone> dooglus> I just recovered from something similar. I resized windows system disk in first drive and copied files from smaller partition to newer fat32 (w/ gparted). In windows the new partition showed as fat32 but gparted made it linux fs. I finally formatted in Windows disk manager to fat32 to be sure and had to rescue using install disk to reinstall grub then edit fstab
[09:20] <Madpilot> back later, all. need food
[09:20] <dooglus> Mike___: can I have 20 now?
[09:20] <eruin> Mike___, you really should use gparted to edit partitions ;)
[09:21] <dooglus> eruin: would gparted update /etc/fstab with the changes you make?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> active-matrix if you're sudo, then sudo chmod +x /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:21] <navarone> dooglus I don't think so
[09:21] <aTypical> I'm experienced enough to think going back to stable might be a better idea for me.
[09:21] <dooglus> CaptainMorgan: I was going to say that, but then I realised it wouldn't be very funny
[09:21] <eruin> I don't think it'd rearrange your partitions for one thing
[09:21] <Mike___> well, i installed ubuntu today and i have no net connection on it
[09:21] <andrei> Mike___,  give the man the reward
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> dooglus, ?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, what version are you atttempting ?
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> Dapper ?
[09:22] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, I'm using Dapper
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> ah..
[09:22] <Mike___> linux people really should quit with these bloody cocky remarks followed by winking smileys
[09:22] <Mike___> don't you have girlfriends?!
[09:22] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, this seems really nice.
[09:22] <djtansey> i have just rotated my x screen. my mouse cursor doesn't seem to have switched. though where the mouse _acutally is has rotated, the cursor still pretends the screen is unrotated
[09:22] <Mike___> dooglus: thanks for your help
[09:22] <Seveas> !tell Mike___ about attitude
[09:22] <djtansey> any suggestions?
[09:22] <dooglus> CaptainMorgan: he's asking why he gets an error.  the correct answer is "because you've not made the file executable".  but what he needs to hear is "you shouldn't be trying to run that file as a script"
[09:22] <aTypical> I'd hate to downgrade and lose the things that make this so nice.
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, Dapper is nice you mean ?
[09:22] <greenpenguin13> my webserver doesnt want to run .php scripts
[09:22] <navarone> eruin> does gparted only allow you to resize existing partition by adding unallocated space if the unallocated space is to it's right on the gparted screen...ie end of disk?
[09:22] <greenpenguin13> it just hands me the file
[09:22] <dooglus> Mike___: you're welcome.  your appreciation is worth much more than the 20 you promised anyway.
[09:23] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> dooglus, ah.. missed the question.. :) wasn't trying to be sarcastic
[09:23] <greenpenguin13> ive got mod-php
[09:23] <Juchipilo> hello.  What file do i need to modify  if I want to add more aliases automatically when i open the console?  is it /etc/profile   ?
[09:23] <Seveas> Juchipilo, ~/.bashrc
[09:23] <Juchipilo> cool. thanks Seveas
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, what are noticeable changes from 5.10 to Dapper ?
[09:23] <Kyral> Juchipilo: and the aliases go in ~/.bash_aliases
[09:23] <greenpenguin13> crashes more
[09:23] <dooglus> Juchipilo: depends if you want it for just you, or for all users
[09:23] <Juchipilo> for all
[09:24] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, I have no idea.  I'm new to Ubuntu.
[09:24] <jahshua> can  someone help me to set ident in kubuntu for x chat
[09:24] <eruin> ubotu is gone
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> wonders why the Mike_ attitdue..?
[09:24] <djm62> eruin: hail ubugtu
[09:24] <Ubugtu> Dunno.
[09:24] <djm62> meet the new bot, same as the old bot
[09:25] <eruin> ah, it's taken over ubotus chores ?
[09:25] <dooglus> Kyral: ~/.bash_aliases doesn't get sourced by default, does it?
[09:25] <greenpenguin13> does ubugtu notice if you talk about it?
[09:25] <Seveas> eruin, until ubotu returns
[09:25] <greenpenguin13> no then
[09:25] <dooglus> Juchipilo: if you want it for all users, put it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> stable means community developed to a relatively bugless environment.. unstable - many bugs.. not yet worked out? I saw a post one about Breezy being rushed.. how can it be rushed if it's stable ?
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> jahshua, I asked you already.
[09:25] <greenpenguin13> is ubugtu open source?
[09:26] <Kyral> dooglus: nope
[09:26] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, it was released in october 05 just like it was supposed to be
[09:26] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, for a alpha/beta release it's amazingly stable.  It detected all the hardware on my system.  I like gnome 2.13.3.
[09:26] <Ubugtu> Error: Error getting Gnome Bugzilla bug #2: NotFound
[09:26] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, do you know what the differences are between the versions?
[09:26] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, dapper development will be less rough as it's supposed to be a long-term supported release
[09:26] <Kyral> Dapper is the next release
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, nope.. please tell
[09:26] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, I was hoping you knew.
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, thatd be nice - long-term....
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, lol..
[09:27] <djm62> CaptainMorgan: stable means not changing, and means higher quality control (but this can vary)
[09:27] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, at the moment the difference is essentially newer packages (like xorg 7rc's and gnome 2.13)
[09:27] <Ubugtu> Error: Error getting Gnome Bugzilla bug #2: NotFound
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> djm62, ok, so bugs arent anything to do with it? it's an unstable environment due to system alterations..?
[09:27] <eruin> err
[09:28] <Seveas> stop saying gnome with a number after it, ubugtu gets confused :)
[09:28] <CaptainMorgan> which causes.. bugs : / ?>
[09:28] <greenpenguin13> hey gaim2 works :)
[09:28] <jahshua> captain no i mean setting ident for irc
[09:28] <eruin> Seveas, blimey, I was about to give it another spin ;p
[09:28] <jahshua> getting rid of the ~
[09:28] <dooglus> Mike forgot to take my paypal details.  I'm sure he'll be right back when he remembers.
[09:28] <CaptainMorgan> jahshua, you don't have a ~
[09:28] <jahshua> i know i dont have it on this shell
[09:28] <navarone> dooglus, I'm sure the cheques in the mail...<s>
[09:28] <jahshua> when i log onto irc with my ip
[09:28] <jahshua> i do
[09:28] <aTypical> What is the current version of gnome in Breezy?
[09:29] <Seveas> 2.12.1
[09:29] <Kyral> 2.12
[09:29] <Kyral> okay
[09:29] <aTypical> Thanks.
[09:29] <dooglus> what about in dapper?
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas, setting a nick in IRC to get rid of ~, how ?
[09:29] <Seveas> 2.13.3
[09:29] <aTypical> dooglus, 2.13.3
[09:29] <eruin> a 2.13 cocktail
[09:29] <dooglus> ok.
[09:29] <aTypical> I think I'll suffer with the minor problems I've seen so far.
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> question arose... main diff's' between Dapper and Breezy ?
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> besides the stability
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[09:29] <Kyral> No one asks what version of Fluxbox it ships with lol
[09:29] <jahshua> look here
[09:29] <jahshua> UNIX:
[09:29] <jahshua> Identd isn't actually apart of X-Chat. You will need to download and install your own ident server. Most distributions, including RedHat, come with an ident server program called pidentd. Make sure it is enabled in /etc/xinetd.conf or read you distribution's documentation. As an alternative, you can try this experimental identd server: xchat_auth
[09:30] <greenpenguin14> latest sofware course
[09:30] <greenpenguin14> its not noticable yet really
[09:30] <dooglus> aTypical: which are the minor problems you've seen?
[09:30] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, that's essentially it
[09:30] <intelikey> due to special issues i need to be able to boot without an initrd.  the root fs is ext2  what boot prams need to be passed to the kernel to get this to work ?
[09:30] <Kyral> X going to hell in a handbasket?
[09:30] <Seveas> pidentd is good for ident
[09:30] <Kyral> intelikey: just compile ext2 into your kernel
[09:30] <jahshua> pident ?
[09:31] <jahshua> followed by my ident ?
[09:31] <Papoose> Is there a help room for complete newbies?
[09:31] <intelikey> kyral you mean it isn't already there ?
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, oh.. sorry. missed your tell about packages..
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> coool
[09:31] <Seveas> Papoose, you're there :)
[09:31] <Madpilot> Papoose: this is it
[09:31] <jahshua> Papoose im as noob as it gets :)
[09:31] <andrei> Seveas, installed fglrx from your repo. How to enable it ?
[09:31] <Kyral> intelikey: the kernel contains NOTHING until you compile it lol
[09:31] <Papoose> cool
[09:31] <jahshua> welcome
[09:31] <jahshua> :)
[09:31] <Kyral> intelikey: I believe that the Ubuntu Kernel is HIGHLY modular
[09:32] <intelikey> hmmm ok.   ty.
[09:32] <eruin> I can't wait till the day I'll never see the gnome splash screen again comes
[09:32] <Kyral> lol
[09:32] <Kyral> eruin: why?
[09:32] <Papoose> thank you ... First crack at Linux ever today
[09:32] <Seveas> andrei, if you already use fglrx, a reboot will do it (if you installed both the kernel module AND the xorg driver
[09:32] <intelikey> maybe i can use a debian kernel ?
[09:32] <eruin> because I really, really, dislike splash screens ;)
[09:32] <dooglus> eruin: you can turn that splash screen off in system->prefs->session
[09:32] <andrei> Seveas, k
[09:32] <Kyral> intelikey: compiling a kernel ain't scary
[09:32] <eruin> dooglus, I'm most enthusiastic about what they actually MEAN by removing it though
[09:33] <eruin> dooglus, like making the login spiffy :)
[09:33] <CaptainMorgan> the new Breezy splash or loadup screen where it loads equipment/software (ok) black with a gold ubuntu logo is a nice upgrade from 5.4 textual load up..
[09:33] <Kyral> I actually like the text loadup
[09:33] <Madpilot> Papoose: welcome to the Light Side, then :P
[09:33] <intelikey> kyral i'll have to cross compile it...   and on a p2
[09:33] <dooglus> Papoose: how are you finding it?
[09:33] <Papoose> Madpilot Thank you
[09:33] <CaptainMorgan> Kyral,  yuck :)
[09:33] <Kyral> Makes me feel good to see those "OK!" fly by in the boot sequence
[09:34] <Papoose> well it is still installing
[09:34] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, yeah, we have to sacrifice our self-nerd in order to make other people realise ubuntu is a rocking desktop system
[09:34] <eruin> ;)
[09:34] <dooglus> Papoose: ah, I see
[09:34] <greenpenguin13> the old breezy splash was nice :p
[09:34] <CaptainMorgan> Kyral, Breezy has it nice now... gui and text loadup..
[09:34] <Seveas> * Startin Kyrals brain              [FAILED] 
[09:34] <Kyral> Seveas: WTF?
[09:34] <bulio>  if I have one HD bay, but the PC supports 2 HDs, can I copy my ubuntu install over to the bigger HD, and replace this one?
[09:34] <jahshua> Papoose: i just installed for the first time last night
[09:34] <Seveas> Kyral, ;)
[09:34] <andrei> Seveas, I've installed both driver and kernel but, still the infobar appeared, noticing me about this. (Warning: More packages are neccessary! WARNING: You installed a new xorg driver from a 3rd party source You need to install the accompanying kernel module for X to remain functional. You can do this with the command . sudo apt-get install fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) . If this can't find any packages you need to update your kernel to the latest Ubuntu versio
[09:34] <andrei> n. Do all of this BEFORE rebooting! . For questions: mail dennis@kaarsemaker.net
[09:34] <andrei> ) Hope I've installed it correctly.
[09:34] <eruin> Kyral, not to worry, probably just an init bug
[09:34] <Kyral> bah...
[09:34] <eruin> ie the underlying genes ;)
[09:34] <Seveas> andrei, please don't paste in here
[09:34] <jahshua> Seveas can you explain pident ?
[09:35] <jahshua> please
[09:35] <Seveas> jahshua, apt-get install pidentd
[09:35] <Seveas> done.
[09:35] <andrei> Seveas, ok. sorry.
[09:35] <jahshua> cool
[09:35] <Seveas> andrei, but yeah, you should be ok now
[09:35] <jahshua> thank you
[09:35] <Kyral> ln -s /dev/null /Seveas/brain ;P
[09:35] <intelikey> i can't compile a kernel.... i don't have the source.
[09:35] <Kyral> intelikey: kernel.org
[09:35] <CaptainMorgan> how to install wpassum... ? didn't locate it in syn....
[09:35] <bulio>  if I have one HD bay, but the PC supports 2 HDs, can I copy my ubuntu install over to the bigger HD, and replace this one?
[09:35] <intelikey> that's on the net this is dialup/
[09:35] <Seveas> cat /dev/urandom /proc/Kyral/core
[09:35] <Seveas> cat /dev/urandom >  /proc/Kyral/core
[09:35] <Luis_m> Hi
[09:36] <Papoose> Does GNOME come with the downloadabe ISO?
[09:36] <Kyral> Seveas: I'm already random
[09:36] <andrei> i'll reboot now
[09:36] <eruin> Papoose, yes
[09:36] <Kyral> GNOME?
[09:36] <Kyral> or Ubuntu?
[09:36] <eruin> Papoose, unless you select the kubuntu iso, which comes with kde
[09:36] <viktor> wich other does exist uncept gnoe and kde ??
[09:36] <Papoose> I went to ubuntu webpage anddownloaded the iso
[09:36] <viktor> gnome and kde*
[09:36] <eruin> anyone else noticed the lack of _CD_ isos at cdimage.u.c ?
[09:37] <greenpenguin13> the whitespace programming langauge how random...
[09:37] <eruin> Papoose, tell me the name of the .iso file
[09:37] <jahshua> Seveas i ahve to get root to do that right
[09:37] <KurtKraut> I've installed with a huge effort xvidcap on Breezy. But when I click on RECORD the program crashes. This has been only reported with Ubuntu but nobody gave a solution yet. Does any one have a suggestion ?
[09:37] <Papoose> kde is default?
[09:37] <Kyral> viktor: you mean WM?
[09:37] <jahshua> :o
[09:37] <jahshua> arghhg
[09:37] <Madpilot> jahshua: sudo
[09:37] <eruin> Papoose, if you downloaded the ubuntu iso, it includes gnome, which is the lovely default
[09:37] <jahshua> hold on itll come to me
[09:37] <jahshua> yes!
[09:37] <jahshua> haha
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> searches came up empty for wpassum...
[09:37] <Kyral> Papoose: Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu all are the same, except for the default config
[09:37] <Madpilot> !tell jahshua about sudo
[09:38] <viktor> kyral yes =)
[09:38] <bulio>  if I have one HD bay, but the PC supports 2 HDs, can I copy my ubuntu install over to the bigger HD, and replace this one?
[09:38] <CaptainMorgan> google had nothing
[09:38] <Papoose> eruin yes I downloaded Ubuntu5.10.install
[09:38] <eruin> Papoose, then yes, you'll have gnome :)
[09:38] <jahshua> itcouldnt find packeage pidentd
[09:38] <jahshua> it couldnt find packeage pidentd
[09:39] <Kyral> viktor: oh....XFCE, ENlightenment, Fluxbox, Blackbox, FVWM, IceWM, Windowmaker, Sawfish, Openbox, Twm, Mezzo...
[09:39] <levander> Anybody know how to verify if this drive is a Barracude 7200.7?  http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/118283/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs
[09:39] <eruin> there should be a section on the downloads page on ubuntu.com about "how to burn an iso"
[09:39] <bulio> can I install KDE for Ubuntu?
[09:39] <cramlow> anyone know if i install another distro over ubuntu, say like gentoo, will i loose my media files?
[09:39] <eruin> for windows users and linux users alike, with screenshots
[09:39] <viktor> cool =)
[09:39] <levander> bulio: check kubuntu
[09:40] <Kyral> bulio: Yes, easy
[09:40] <lightbright> bulio: indeed, but why would you?
[09:40] <viktor> is anyone of them looking better then KDE ??
[09:40] <bulio> ok, but can I install it to my current ubuntu?
[09:40] <eruin> cramlow, not if you have your media files on a different partition
[09:40] <mrkoje> eruin,  if ubuntu doesn't havea  tutorial on how I know google does somewhere
[09:40] <viktor> kyral
[09:40] <Seveas> lightbright, :)
[09:40] <Kyral> bulio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <levander> cramlow: you can't typically install one distribution over another
[09:40] <eruin> mrkoje, yes, but that's not a friendly way to greet users
[09:40] <Madpilot> viktor: Gnome looks better than KDE :P
[09:40] <cramlow> they are on hda6 ithing
[09:40] <Kyral> viktor: Like a LOT of things in Linux, its all a matter of opinion
[09:40] <naddar> hello all, the full version of ubuntu is it ok?
[09:40] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[09:40] <eruin> mrkoje, we should aim for the best usability - all the way from first sight of u.com to running ubuntu system
[09:40] <Seveas> !start a desktop war
[09:40] <Ubugtu> Rumor has it start a desktop war is twm, Seveas
[09:40] <mrkoje> naddar,  what do you mean by "ok"?
[09:40] <Seveas> meh
[09:41] <Kyral> hahaha twm
[09:41] <xfree> bulio, i see you ask about move your current install to new harddisk right?
[09:41] <Seveas> Ubugtu, you broken
[09:41] <Ubugtu> Eep! *crash*
[09:41] <lightbright> bulio: indeed, but why would you when you have Gnome?  Gnome is more stable
[09:41] <SAM_theman> is there a appication editor for kde??
[09:41] <SAM_theman> like smeg?
[09:41] <naddar> hardware ect
[09:41] <naddar> speed
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[09:41] <bulio> xfree: yeah
[09:41] <cramlow> i am wanting to dump ppc ubuntu because i can't figure out how to get wmp files to play..i ve tried to intsall mplayer to no avil
[09:41] <Kyral> lightbright: No starting a war
[09:41] <Seveas> SAM_theman, smeg works for kde too
[09:41] <eruin> oh, please, not another kde/gnome fight
[09:41] <bulio> I don't have the HD yet
[09:41] <naddar> is there a 64bits
[09:41] <anthony_> does anybody know how to give a whole folder(and all of the files inside) write permissions
[09:41] <viktor> madpilot well i think it does to but i dont like that it have its "start menu" in the top
[09:41] <mrkoje> eruin,  I could make a page on the wiki I suppose but what programs do people use?
[09:41] <eruin> we had enough of opinionated fools after the Linus outburst :)
[09:41] <bulio> I'm buying it within A week
[09:41] <mrkoje> eruin,  On Windows I have used Nero before but thats about it...
[09:41] <xfree> bulio, you can do it from backup this one then restore it to new one
[09:42] <eruin> mrkoje, a I'd be willing to bet nero for one
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> anthony, chmod -r <folder> -R
[09:42] <viktor> kyral okaje =) well i want to change the whole look on my ubuntu install
[09:42] <nanno> is anyone having problems accessing ebay?
[09:42] <Madpilot> viktor: you can customize Gnome's panels - including where it puts the menus - if you want to
[09:42] <anthony_> thanks :)
[09:42] <Madeye> guys, the battary charge monitor is stupid, lol it's 0% for two hours now, Any more accurate applet or application that show the barrary charge level /
[09:42] <eruin> mrkoje, my windows knowledge is a bit rusty ;)
[09:42] <cramlow> can someone help me play win meida files on my ppc
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> anthony, sorry.. +w
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> not -r
[09:42] <Papoose> Was it bad to intall the base system if i do't know what I am doing "ie server"?
[09:42] <Fujoor> hey, im trying out the ubuntu live cd, how can i get a transparent terminal? do i have to install another one?
[09:42] <bulio> how would I backup this one?
[09:42] <anthony_> k
[09:42] <xfree> Madeye, is this toshiba ?
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> anthony, so chmod +w <folder> -R
[09:42] <mrkoje> eruin,  I don't know of any other good burning programs on windows :)
[09:42] <Madeye> xfree, you won, yes it is toshiba
[09:42] <Kyral> Fujoor: you cannot get "true" transparency
[09:42] <Madpilot> Papoose: server install has no GUI - it doesn't install Gnome or KDE or anything...
[09:43] <Madeye> xfree, it's toshiba Tecra s2.
[09:43] <eruin> Papoose, no, you generally just have to press "enter" through the entire install, but be sure to read what the installer tells you :)
[09:43] <viktor> madpilot okay :S well im a newbie in linux :P i just want it to look clean and pretty dark colored and much transparently
[09:43] <cramlow> try a search for free cd burn software i think one is called cdxp
[09:43] <Fujoor> kyral: i know, not true, but still just so that the background is visible
[09:43] <CaptainMorgan> viktor, dark.. .
[09:43] <lightbright> Kyral: no falsely accusing others again, ok?
[09:43] <Papoose> OK so can I install Gnome once I install base system?
[09:43] <eruin> Kyral, oi, xcompmgr ;)
[09:43] <Madpilot> Fujoor: in Gnome Terminal, Edit menu -> Current Profile
[09:43] <cramlow> no one will help me get wmp going on my ppc ubuntu?
[09:43] <viktor> captainmorgan well darker than it is original :P hard to explain
[09:43] <eruin> Papoose, if you just go with the default install, gnome will be installed
[09:44] <xfree> Madeye, my firend have one :) like you , toshbia use smart battary
[09:44] <cramlow> pleasy
[09:44] <waseem> hi does anyone know a user friendly program that i can use to directly connect to any wireless network instead of typing dozens of commands in the terminal?
[09:44] <eruin> Papoose, you won't have to tell it to
[09:44] <bulio> xfree: how would I backup this one?
[09:44] <Fujoor> kyral: cant believe i missed that
[09:44] <merly> ok, successfully reinstalled the 32 bit version of ubuntu; rt2500 can ping the router, but nothing outside my local network. How do I fix this?
[09:44] <Fujoor> kyral: thank you
[09:44] <Papoose> it just took so long to install base sytem on this skethy pc :)
[09:44] <Kyral> cramlow: You mean Windows Media?
[09:44] <xfree> Madeye, and it maybe not support it like i see it
[09:44] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ /usr/games/scorched3d
[09:44] <SAM_theman> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[09:44] <rob954> viktor: "well i think it does to but i dont like that it have its "start menu" in the top" you can grab and pull it to the bottom - well, in Breezy anyway
[09:44] <xfree> bulio, wait :)
[09:44] <Madpilot> Papoose: what CPU & how much RAM?
[09:44] <cramlow> Kyle_S, yes sir!
[09:45] <_willcooke_> Hello all.  Wierd problem!  I've just re-installed breezy to try the 64 bit version, and when I first booted my sound card (sb live emu10k1 drivers) worked fine, now suddenly it tells me I have no sound card, any ideas?
[09:46] <_jason> _willcooke_, are you still using the first user you created?
[09:46] <aTypical> Someone asked about errors I was experiencing on Dapper.  So far I have a problem using 'Add Applications' from the Applications menu and I received an error while trying to use Opera.
[09:46] <navarone> I am trying to remove directory from my home directory. It is backup of Music folder and is not empty...which command do i use to delete folder? I have tried the rmdir with ignore  fail on no empty flag but it did not seem to do anything. would like to get rid of it as it is over 2gb and now redundant
[09:46] <Papoose> Madpilot 300Mhz PII (i was too excited to try so i picked up an old pc before new one gets here)
[09:46] <mrkoje> navarone,  rmdir
[09:46] <_jason> navarone, rm -r
[09:46] <Kyral> navarone: rm -rf
[09:46] <navarone> okie...jsuta sec
[09:46] <mrkoje> navarone,  sorry... didn't read your whole post
[09:46] <xfree> bulio, you can do this by two way 1-command line interface 2-GUI , and you can find it on ubuntu how-to
[09:46] <anthony_> has anybody gotten nero to work via wine?
[09:47] <Madpilot> Papoose: provided it's got at least 128Mb RAM, Gnome will run, but it'll be slow...
[09:47] <Kyral> anthony_: why WOULD you
[09:47] <_willcooke_> _jason, yup!
[09:47] <ToiletPaper> Amazing, over 600 people in an IRC server
[09:47] <ToiletPaper> and growing
[09:47] <Kyral> anthony_: k3b owns all
[09:47] <bulio> thanks
[09:47] <eggman_> theres a native to linux version of nero
[09:47] <muzik> heya peoples, does anyone know how to set mplayer so that when ya hit fullscreen, it stretches the video?
[09:47] <Madeye> xfree, sorry d/c, yes it's toshiba tecra s2
[09:47] <CaptainMorgan> ToiletPaper, few months ago... not even 20..
[09:47] <anthony_> no idea
[09:47] <lightbright> Kyral: no startting wars now
[09:47] <anthony_> k3b??
[09:47] <XavierGr> Hi all! Just booted first time to Ubuntu!
[09:47] <Ubugtu> I guess k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there, anthony_
[09:47] <navarone> must it be sudo if in my home directory?...also Music folder has permissions inherited from windows fodler
[09:47] <ToiletPaper> Oh, Linux
[09:47] <lightbright> anthony: use Gnomebaker
[09:47] <Kyral> lightbright: I think EVERYONE agrees that k3b is the best in this case :D
[09:47] <anthony_> i use GNOME
[09:47] <xfree> Madeye, type "acpi" on command line
[09:47] <CryptoQuick> Anybody have experience with dual-booting on a Mac? My bootloader is having difficulty getting OS X to load.
[09:48] <_jason> _willcooke_, okay I don't know then :)  I jsut asked because I ahd the same problem and it was because my new user wasn't a part of the 'audio' group
[09:48] <Kyral> anthony_: doesn't matter
[09:48] <xfree> Madeye, to see if it support acpi
[09:48] <anthony_> ok ill check it out
[09:48] <_willcooke_> _jason, :)
[09:48] <Kyral> anthony_: There is no such thing as a "KDE app" or a "GNOME App"
[09:48] <andrei> Seveas, screwed it :)
[09:48] <Madeye> xfree,      Battery 1: charging, 0%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge.
[09:48] <Madpilot> anthony_: I use Gnome too, and k3b is the only burning app I get consistantly good burns with...
[09:48] <mwe> it matters if you have somwhat limitid ram since the kdelibs are loaded
[09:48] <lightbright> Kyral: you spoken to EVERY SINGLE Ubuntu user have you to conclude that?  No, not "everyone" agrees that k3b is best in this case!  DONT generalise when you have no idea
[09:48] <Madeye> xfelon,  will never fully charge?!@$
[09:48] <Madeye> xfree
[09:49] <anthony_> lol i like gnome baker
[09:49] <sebastian> Is there a easy way to update Ubuntu's Firefox 1.0.7  to Firefox 1.5?
[09:49] <Kyral> lightbright: its more of a sure thing than KDE vs. GNOME
[09:49] <andrei> Seveas, i have put fglrx instead of ati, and all the other stuff. Shouldn't I ? Should I left ati there ?
[09:49] <lightbright> anthony: use Gnomebaker it works great like Nero.  No need for Nero
[09:49] <lightbright> Kyral: thats YOUR opinion only
[09:49] <viktor> man jsut because im trying to find some scrrenshot i cant :P
[09:49] <navarone> Okies...ty kindly...that worked  likea  charm
[09:49] <xfree> Madeye, i have acer aspire but i will try to help you ok
[09:49] <lightbright> sebastian: why would you want to update firefox from 1.0.7?
[09:49] <Madeye> xfree, Thanks :-)
[09:49] <Kyral> anthony_: Idea, install both and pick the one you like ;P
[09:49] <CryptoQuick> Can someone help me with setting up my yaboot.conf file? I don't think I'm pointing to OS X correctly.
[09:50] <anthony_> ok thanks
[09:50] <Kyral> lightbright: better?
[09:50] <sebastian> Yes update from 1.0.7  to 1.5
[09:50] <anthony_> im jelous because i dont have an osx box
[09:50] <sebastian> 1.5 being the latest version
[09:50] <anthony_> i have tiger-x86 though:)
[09:50] <eruin> Kyral, I disagree alot judging by the amount of broken audio discs I have around after them getting some k3b love ;)
[09:50] <sebastian> 1.5 was released about three weeks ago. and there is no Ubuntu build yet
[09:50] <xfree> Madeye, no problem , did you search on ubuntuforums or on google or else where "before i do this "
[09:50] <Kyral> eruin: lol
[09:50] <CryptoQuick> anthony_: Naughty.
[09:50] <lightbright> Kyral: there are thousands of Ubuntu users, so how can you claim "everyone" would agree with your comments?  Have you personally rang every Ubuntu user and asked them?
[09:50] <anthony_> lol
[09:51] <Madeye> xfree, to be honest, this is my first ever laptop, and I don't know what search for
[09:51] <lightbright> eruin: yeah
[09:51] <Kyral> lightbright: I apologize, in my circle k3b is preferred. I already told him to try both. Drop it
[09:51] <lightbright> Kyral: eruin doesnt agree with you, so your comment about "everyone" is false.
[09:51] <anthony_> thanks by the way
[09:51] <mwe> sebastian: it will never go into breezy since it would break more than 50 apps that use gecko and stuff
[09:51] <lightbright> Kyral: ok dropped :)
[09:51] <Kyral> I personally like k3b for its feature to check the MD5Sum of the disc against the ISO
[09:51] <sebastian> why is that?
[09:51] <lightbright> Kyral: Gnomebaker does that too
[09:51] <SAM_theman> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[09:52] <eruin> Kyral, that's indeed a nice feature
[09:52] <lightbright> Kyral: did you know they both use cdrecord?
[09:52] <amz0> Hi folks I have a problem using my logiteck kb & mouse via a usb hub. It works ok connected directly, could someone give me some pointers on how to get the hub working? Thanks
[09:52] <Kyral> lightbright: yes
[09:52] <eruin> I use nautilus for isos and banshee for music myself though
[09:52] <sebastian> why would it brake more than 50 apps that use Gecko?
[09:52] <lightbright> Kyral: ok good :)
[09:52] <navarone> Kyral...I prefer gnomebaker...simply cos I imagine Keebler Elves baking in mp3 goodness...<s>
[09:52] <xfree> Madeye, i will help you on this "wait"
[09:52] <sproingie> all the apps using gecko would have to be rebuilt
[09:52] <lightbright> navarone: hehe good one ;)
[09:52] <mwe> sebastian: because they are compiled against gecko from 1.0.7. see http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212#3 for reference
[09:52] <Kyral> sebastian: because Firefox provides HTML rendering for Ubuntu
[09:52] <anthony_> oh yeah, does anybody know any GOOD mac themes/skins for GNOME??
[09:52] <Madeye> xfree, thanks in advance, i'll ve waiting
[09:52] <CryptoQuick> Yeah, so OS X is the bomb. It's so smooth and the UI is just amazing; intuitive and consistent. Too bad I can't boot into it...
[09:52] <sproingie> actually i thought gecko was unbundled from firefox for gnome apps
[09:53] <lightbright> Kyral: see?  most seem to point to Gnomebaker as I said :)
[09:53] <sebastian> So if I want 1.5 i'll have to install it myself I guess?  and if I don't want apps to brake to also keep 1.0.7?
[09:53] <CaptainMorgan> viktor, dark - http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/CaptainMorganRawks/withpanels.png < with panels and without > http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/CaptainMorganRawks/withoutpanels.png
[09:53] <Kyral> lightbright: dropped remember? ;P
[09:53] <CaptainMorgan> hidden panels.. are sweet..
[09:53] <_jason> sebastian, pretty much
[09:53] <Kyral> Personally I find my self in an interesting spot as an Ubuntu user
[09:53] <lightbright> Kyral: ok :)
[09:53] <anthony_> oh yeah, does anybody know any GOOD mac themes/skins for GNOME??
[09:53] <_jason> sebastian, if you really want firefox1.5 there is a wiki entry explaining the process 'firefoxnewversion'
[09:53] <sproingie> it shouldn't take an app to burn an image.  drag a .iso onto the cd device.  done.
[09:54] <Kyral> I basically use what is best described as "MetaBuntu"
[09:54] <lightbright> anthony: can you repeat that? :P
[09:54] <anthony_> lol
[09:54] <sebastian> where is that jason?
[09:54] <lightbright> anthony: ;)
[09:54] <_jason> Ubugtu, tell sebastian about firefox15
[09:54] <Kyral> anthony_: lemme dig in my themes folder
[09:54] <anthony_> k thanks
[09:54] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: "Communications Scaner?"
[09:54] <lightbright> sebastian: are you an ecxperienced linux user?
[09:54] <CaptainMorgan> CryptoQuick, sure... ;)
[09:54] <Kyral> anthony_: I THINK Metativo is good
[09:54] <merly> i'm sorry if anyone responded before, bersirc (on windows machine) doesn't highlight by nick any idea which setting to change if i can ping my router but not anything outside of network? I'm using the same router on this machine and it works
[09:54] <eruin> excuse me, but couldn't you just use the official ff1.5 build off moz.org?
[09:54] <andrei> anthony, maybe you'll like this one http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1151
[09:54] <_jason> sebastian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:55] <lightbright> sebastian: then dont start breaking ubuntu with that stuff
[09:55] <eruin> what IS it with people who want gnome to look like a mac?
[09:55] <xfree> Madeye, http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba.html
[09:55] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, not me :)
[09:55] <Kyral> Personally I have Fluxbox tweaked out in a nice Milk theme
[09:55] <sebastian> I am a sort of experienced user yeah
[09:55] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, minimalist here
[09:55] <Kyral> eruin: I passed through the phase
[09:55] <sproingie> merly: use icechat.  it hilights
[09:55] <khermans> Does anyone else notice that the ubuntu-calendar package does not place the updating wallpapers into the Desktop Background selection choices?
[09:55] <navarone> eruin...I'm just glad it doesn't look like Win2k
[09:55] <Madeye> xfree, thanks, checking...
[09:55] <_jason> sebastian, yeah, if you are not comfortable with what any of the commands mean make sure you look them up before you proceed
[09:55] <anthony_> wow kyral i like that one
[09:56] <anthony_> thanks
[09:56] <anthony_> any others?
[09:56] <xfree> Madeye, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/toshiba.html
[09:56] <eruin> Kyral, me too, until I got a mac and realized it's foolish ;)
[09:56] <anthony_> lol lucky
[09:56] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: It would be so much cooler if you used K.
[09:56] <Kyral> I have pictures on UbuntuForums
[09:56] <navarone> merly...yes IceChat is by far best windows chat client...besides xcaht windows version of course
[09:56] <Kyral> my latest is entitled "What The Flux?"
[09:56] <amz0> Could anyone help me out with getting a usb hub working in ubuntu? thanks
[09:56] <Kuyaedz> I'm trying to compile gaim 2 beta and I'm getting complaints about not having GTK < 2.0, although I have libglib2.0-0, libglib2.0-dev installed.  Any ideas?
[09:56] <sebastian> anyway thanks guys for the Firefox help stuff.  ,but I am about to go, but before I  go.  what's that command again that lists all the GUI's widow managers etc?
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> CryptoQuick, K ? what's the diff ?
[09:57] <merly> sproingie , navarone - i will switch. but any ideas on my ubuntu networking problem? :)
[09:57] <munzir> hi gurus, in synaptic I see there is a column with an red circle icon besides some packages, what does it stands for please?
[09:57] <_jason> Kyral, were you able to setup the artwiz fonts for fluxbox?
[09:57] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: Kubuntu, KDE. It's way cooler.
[09:57] <navarone> merly...I am sure there is someone better qualified to help with networking issues...I am not unfortunately
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> hmm..
[09:57] <Kyral> _jason: what are Artwiz fonts?
[09:57] <sproingie> merly: didn't see it, sorry
[09:57] <anthony_> you can install KDE on regualr ubuntu
[09:57] <koniec> hello. I insert a dvd of my region into the computer and it is automatically played in totem, but this does not happen for a homemade disc from another region, why is that?
[09:57] <anthony_> so you can have both
[09:58] <merly> sproingie - i can ping my wireless router, but can't ping anything outside local network
[09:58] <Kyral> Kuyaedz: you need libgtk2.0-dev
[09:58] <sproingie> merly: your router isn't
[09:58] <merly> sproingie i know internet is up cause i'm on the same wireless router on this windows box.
[09:58] <SAM_theman> brb
[09:58] <_jason> Kyral, a lot of the fluxbox themes use them I believe.  When I tried fluxbox my fonts were huge so I thought it could be because I didn't install those fonts.  Maybe I just need to edit the font size, but it didn't seem normal.  Did you have a similar experience?
[09:58] <anthony_> peace out everybody
[09:59] <khermans> merly, check your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:59] <Kyral> _jason: I dunno
[09:59] <khermans> merly, try pinging 4.2.2.1
[09:59] <sproingie> merly: wireless ... do you have any wired ports on your router you can plug into and test?
[09:59] <_jason> Kyral, but your fluxbox looks fine after setting up your custom theme?
[09:59] <Kyral> _jason: yah
[09:59] <merly> khermans - pinged 4.2.2.1 , no good. 3 transmitted, 0 rec'd.
[10:00] <Kyral> and I don't have them installed (well NOW I do)
[10:00] <Kyral> hey ogra
[10:00] <_jason> Kyral, do you use the repo version or compile your own?
[10:00] <merly> sproingie - like i say, this computer (windows machine) is connected through that wireless router.
[10:00] <khermans> merly, your route is working?
[10:00] <Kyral> _jason: repo
[10:00] <merly> khermans see above
[10:00] <merly> khermans i am connected through the router on a different windows computer
[10:00] <khermans> merly, sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[10:00] <bshumate> merly: sounds like you have no default route / gateway setup on the box
[10:00] <_jason> Kyral, alright, thanks.  I guess I'll try fluxbox again and see if I can get it set up.
[10:00] <CryptoQuick> so osx has this thing that lets u boot into tha computer and now it boots into this thing and I don't know where the apple menu is and my dock is gone OMG WAHT DO I DO??
[10:00] <khermans> merly, or whateve ryour router ip is
[10:01] <sproingie> merly: yes, and it's probably linux's less than stellar support for wireless.  on the other hand it could be a dhcp issue or firewall rules.  test wired first and see if it's broken or not
[10:01] <CaptainMorgan> kubuntu seems almost Mac like
[10:01] <merly> khermans - could it be 192.168.1.1 ? I think that is the gateway address...
[10:01] <khermans> yes
[10:01] <Kyral> I love that you can restart Fluxbox and not close X to do it :D
[10:01] <eruin> killall metacity ;p
[10:01] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: It's more like Windows, actually.
[10:01] <merly> sproingie - i was connected through the same router on 64 bit ubuntu before i re-installed 32 bit. so i have hope. :v)
[10:01] <eruin> would be the equivalent ;)
[10:01] <khermans> merly, then try 4.2.2.1 or 4.2.2.2 again
[10:02] <sproingie> merly: probably configuration then.  i've thankfully not had to deal with wireless pretty much ever
[10:02] <sethk> Kyral, you can restart any window manager without closing X
[10:02] <merly> khermans - when i try to add default gateway it says "SI0CADDRT: File exists
[10:02] <khermans> not gateway
[10:02] <khermans> gw
[10:02] <sethk> Kyral, there may not be a menu item to do it, but from the command line you can restart kwm, or the various gnome window managers
[10:02] <CaptainMorgan> CryptoQuick, that too.. Vindoz.. nah thanks :)
[10:02] <Kyral> sethk: ah! But will the programs stay active? :D
[10:02] <sethk> I need to bye a small rack that doesn't cost a fortune
[10:02] <merly> khermans - i typte sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[10:03] <CaptainMorgan> sethk Montreal :)
[10:03] <khermans> merly, but try removing it before updating -- sudo route del default gw
[10:03] <sethk> Kyral, strangely enough, they do.  I've tested it with kde.  Not sure about gnome
[10:03] <eruin> cvs.gnome.org is bloody slow atm
[10:03] <sproingie> sethk: i wouldn't recommend it for home.  rack boxes are *noisy*
[10:03] <Kyral> sethk: ah cool
[10:03] <eruin> Kyral, ofcourse they will ;)
[10:03] <Kyral> I plan to install KDE so I can offer Kubuntu Support :D
[10:03] <merly> khermans - it gave me a whole bunch of usage information, like a help file...
[10:04] <Kyral> Also a hobby to make all my WMs use the same themes :D
[10:04] <khermans> merly, route del default
[10:04] <khermans> merly, route -n shows your reouting table
[10:04] <CryptoQuick> Kyral, with a name like that, I would assume that you already ran KDE.
[10:04] <khermans> merly, check it
[10:04] <eruin> haven't any of you heard of NetworkManager?
[10:04] <Kyral> ....
[10:04] <eruin> CryptoQuick, haha
[10:04] <Kyral> CryptoQuick: I run Fluxbox
[10:04] <eruin> Fluxbox users tend to use alot of QT apps
[10:05] <eruin> in my experience
[10:05] <CryptoQuick> Kyral, I'll check that out.
[10:05] <Kyral> eruin: I use GAIM, Epiphany, and BMP
[10:05] <Karlabobi> I have a bit of a weird problem, if anyone knows how to solve it, cool, if you don't, not-so-cool :D Here goes: The ubuntu system thingy has it's values all mixed up, it counts 1sec as 4secs, the same happens when watching video-feed with vlc or while watching flashs, always 4x and it's a bit annoying :D
[10:05] <khermans> merly, and try network-admin if you get lost
[10:05] <Kris> ok back, after upgrading to breezy I still cannot get into gnome
[10:05] <Mike_2> What is the official way to fix snd_hda_intel from freezing hotplug on boot? I've blacklisted the module but now have no sound
[10:05] <Kyral> and Irssi in an XTerm
[10:05] <CryptoQuick> Kyral,BMP is the only thing that plays music correctly on my machine. DI.fm... :D
[10:05] <eruin> merly, are you running breezy and gnome?
[10:06] <amb> If I build a kernel with make-kpkg, I lose the boot splash screen. How do I avoid that?
[10:06] <merly> eruin yes i am running breezy and gnome
[10:06] <Kris> how do I get into gnome from a shell prompt? none of the earlier suggestions work
[10:06] <khermans> Kris, gdm ?
[10:06] <Kris> I tried gdm nothing happens
[10:06] <Mike_2> Better question would be, is anyone having sucess in shound/video acceleration with the intel915 chipset?
[10:06] <khermans> Kris, srartx
[10:06] <eruin> merly, okay then. add "deb http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ ./" to /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, apt-get install network-manager
[10:06] <bshumate> Kris: startx
[10:06] <khermans> Kris, startx
[10:07] <micke123> Hi, I just dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper, and now the xserver won't start anymore, I get the error "libc_wrapper passed invalid FILE to xf86printf"
[10:07] <micke123> has anybody seen this?
[10:07] <Kris> startx does not exist
[10:07] <munzir> hi gurus, in synaptic I see there is a column with an red circle icon besides some packages, what does it stands for please? Also, when i click "Status" there is an option of "Installed (local or obsolete)" what's this?
[10:07] <merly> eruin - i am not connected to the internet at all...
[10:07] <CryptoQuick> Does anybody find it strange that in KDE you use Expl-- Konqueror, your web browser, to also explo-- manage files?
[10:07] <merly> on that comp.
[10:07] <nickrud> Mike_2, that may be http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15465
[10:07] <khermans> Kris, sounds like something is wrong
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Ubuntu bug #15465: Hotplug hangs on boot trying to load snd-hda-intel Product: Ubuntu, Component: linux, Severity: normal, Assigned to: ben.collins@ubuntu.com, Status: RESOLVED, Resolution: DUPLICATE http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15465
[10:07] <Karlabobi> An example of the problem is that the clock now says that the time is:
[10:07] <Karlabobi> 02:50, when in fact it's  23:09 and I set the clock about 2h ago :D
[10:07] <js_> can i install the base system from the internet? my cd is acting up and gives i/o errors.. but i can load the installer ok
[10:07] <CaptainMorgan> munzir, guru - thanks :)
[10:07] <eruin> merly, oh, right ;)
[10:07] <munzir> CaptainMorgan, ;)
[10:08] <merly> eruin , khermans - i'm trying dhcp
[10:08] <Kris> yes, something is definitely wrong
[10:08] <eruin> merly, does dhclient eth0 work?
[10:08] <eruin> where eth0 is your card ofcourse ;)
[10:08] <khermans> merly, you already have an Ip if you are getting replies from the router
[10:09] <sethk> eruin, hey, eth0 is _my_ card.  How did he get it?  :)
[10:09] <Kris> how do I find out what's wrong and fix it?
[10:09] <Kuyaedz> I've got libgtk2.0-dev installed now (issue for gaim 2 beta) and its still complaining.  I'm not sure what dependency I'm missing (this is why gaim should make .debs!)
[10:09] <Kris> >.<
[10:09] <eruin> sethk: I've got one too.. we stole yours, copied it, then put it back in your computer
[10:09] <eruin> ;)
[10:09] <sethk> Kris, you probably already answered this, but I just got here.  You ran startx?
[10:09] <merly> eruin - i get a "sit0: unknown hardware address type 776" that's probably bad, right?
[10:09] <merly> BRB, baby calling
[10:10] <CryptoQuick> Okay, well, obviously nobody can answer my question... So, I'm out, with the note: In Soviet Russia, the internet explores YOU!
[10:10] <Kris> yes, startx does not exist
[10:10] <bshumate> Kris: run : dpkg -l | grep xserver-common      get anything from that?
[10:10] <sethk> Kris, then you don't have gnome/x completely installed
[10:10] <CaptainMorgan> lol some chap on criticized me because he's never heard of Linux Breezy
[10:10] <navarone> merly> sit0 is ipv6 device I think
[10:10] <eruin> merly, sounds pretty bad... but oh, hum, err, try with eth0/eth1
[10:10] <khermans> Kris, i hope you used aptitude dist-upgrade for the move to breezy
[10:10] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, he criticized you because he never heard of it?
[10:11] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, that's an interesting approach
[10:11] <Kris> yes, version 6.8.2-77
[10:11] <sproingie> "Linux Breezy" ... maybe you meant "Ubuntu Breezy"
[10:11] <tidus_> hi there, can anyone tell me how to install real player 10 on ubuntu?
[10:11] <Kris> yes I used dist-upgrade
[10:11] <bshumate> Kris: so your X installation is borked somehow
[10:11] <khermans> Tidus, search wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <koniec> hello. What should fstab look like for a DVD drive?
[10:12] <active-matrix> sudo apt-get install realplayer
[10:12] <khermans> Kris, did you use apt-get or aptitude?
[10:12] <eruin> I thought we've all been told not to use aptitude
[10:12] <khermans> Kris, aptitude is smarter
[10:12] <bshumate> Kris: what about: /usr/bin/startx
[10:12] <Kris> bshumate, exactly
[10:12] <CaptainMorgan> yes but sproingie it's assumed ..
[10:12] <khermans> eruin, where did you hear that
[10:12] <bshumate> Kris: maybe yer PATH is hosed or something
[10:12] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, no, "Linux" is assumed ;)
[10:12] <Kris> I used apt-get
[10:12] <merly> back...
[10:12] <Kris> startx does not exist within the filesystem in any way shape or form
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> sure.. but he never heard of the distro.. whatever.. sorry.. I never used solaris nor have I used FreeBSD, but being a linux user, one hears of them..
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> at least
[10:13] <sethk> Kris, the installation is definitely not complete.  Try using add applications, the simpler one (not synaptics) and add the gnome deskto
[10:13] <sethk> Kris, if necessary tell it to reinstall
[10:14] <sproingie> CaptainMorgan: knowing one's linux distributions doesn't really put one up many rungs on the evolutionary ladder
[10:14] <khermans> Kris, aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <xfree> is there something to follow dapper like on 1/03/2006 dapper cd 1 .... 1/4/2006 cd 2 ?
[10:14] <nerd> hi how do i upgrade to breezy?
[10:14] <CaptainMorgan> sproingie, sure.. but when this person assumes 'No one' has heard of it.. not just him..
[10:14] <khermans> nerd, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:14] <xfree> nerd, there are how-to on wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <eruin> xfree, ?
[10:15] <Kris> ok to do that I'm going to have to switch the net connection to the linux box brb
[10:15] <sproingie> wow no ubotu
[10:15] <khermans> nerd, chnage all references to Hoary as Breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list first
[10:15] <xfree> eruin, you want the full url ?
[10:15] <luiz> aeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[10:15] <luiz> suck my dick gays
[10:16] <DESiBELi> is archive.ubuntu.com down or why do i get "connection refused" when trying to install something
[10:16] <Kyral> ...
[10:16] <merly> eruin sproingie should i set up something under DNS?
[10:16] <selinium> Hi guys, when I a ripping my CD's I get great speed for the first rip, then less and less until I end up at around 3.6x speed. It there a buffer or something that needs emptying? Any ideas?
[10:16] <CaptainMorgan> anybody know a configuring wep would refuse a Linux system.. yet allow other OS's ? considering that keys', shared, and essid are a match ?
[10:16] <khermans> merly, best to use 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2
[10:16] <eruin> xfree, err, maybe? didn't understand you
[10:16] <folki> Can anybody help me how can I add some dir to $PATH?
[10:16] <merly> khermans - right. so it won't help it i can't ping either of those, eh?
[10:17] <sethk> folki, export PATH=/some/new/directory:$PATH
[10:17] <merly> khermans - for some reason it won't take my "key" entry...
[10:17] <khermans> merly, 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 are dns server
[10:17] <sethk> folki, if you want it to persist, add a line like that to $HOME/.bashrc
[10:17] <sproingie> merly: couldn't really say.  i wouldn't try doing dns stuff to troubleshoot, just traceroute google.com or something by its ip address
[10:17] <merly> khermans meaning - - i type 'sudo iwconfig ra0 key XXXXXXX' and then the key doesn't show up
[10:17] <xfree> time to go Zzz
[10:17] <khermans> i need coffee, brb, studying for finals
[10:18] <khermans> merly, use the netowrk-admin utility
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> khermans, what you have for finals?
[10:18] <folki> thank
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> mine are almost done..
[10:18] <khermans> CaptainMorgan, algorithms, scheme, discrete math
[10:18] <xfree> khermans, finals and you here :)
[10:18] <merly> khermans i did that too, but it still doesn't show up when you type iwconfig
[10:18] <dazel> when I try to run something using sudo I get: "daze is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[10:18] <dazel> How I should add something do sudoers?
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> khermans, good luck ;)
[10:18] <js_> how can i install the base system from the internet?
[10:19] <CaptainMorgan> khermans, you have a good feeling about them?
[10:19] <xfree> dazel, i think vimsudo or something like that
[10:19] <khermans> CaptainMorgan, yea
[10:19] <_jason> dazel, use visudo and make sure you do it correctly
[10:19] <Kuyaedz> dazel: means you don't have permissons to run sudo commands.  I take it you're not the first user on the machien?
[10:19] <xfree> dazel, maybe sudoedit
[10:19] <khermans> dazel, nano -w /etc/sudoers manually if you dare
[10:19] <dazel> i know, that i should use visudo
[10:19] <dazel> yes i know
[10:19] <dazel> but how to add my name?
[10:19] <Goldfisch> dazel: Either your userid must be in /etc/sudoers, or one of the groups you belong to must be in it.
[10:20] <_jason> dazel, just read your question, just add your user to the 'admin' group
[10:20] <dazel> type daze after [admin]  ?
[10:20] <_jason> dazel, you'll need to use your original use who had sudo access to do that
[10:20] <Goldfisch> dazel: Is there a line like "%admin" in the /etc/sudoers file?
[10:20] <dazel> yes
[10:20] <klausos> someonde tell me how can i connetc ubuntu to internet for the first time
[10:20] <khermans> klausos, plug in a cable
[10:20] <dazel> write daze instead of %admin ?
[10:21] <_jason> dazel, no
[10:21] <dazel> so?
[10:21] <Ubugtu> Rumor has it so is there a way for me to mod the package, dazel
[10:21] <khermans> dazel, add yourself to the /etc/groups file in the admin section
[10:21] <Goldfisch> dazel: As root (since you don't haave sudo yet), type "vigw" to edit /etc/group. Then find the line with admin. Add your user id to the end of it.
[10:21] <dazel> ok
[10:21] <dazel> i'll try
[10:21] <chtamina> I've got a problem about ubuntu, can I ask here ?
[10:21] <folki> would somebody chat about something?
[10:21] <xandron_root> anyone with a tv capture card that uses the saa7134 chip? I need some help with it
[10:22] <intelikey> well i opened aptitude again.... of course that means i hosed the whole system...  ;/
[10:22] <Goldfisch> dazel: Sorry...the command is vigr (for editing /etc/group). vipw is for editing /etc/passwd.
[10:22] <bshumate> chtamina: all signs point to yes!
[10:22] <Goldfisch> Darn...he left before I could correct the command I gave him. Oh well.
[10:22] <merly> khermans - i must have done something right. because it's up now
[10:22] <nerd> khermans sources.list is read only
[10:23] <chtamina> you all have to excuse me, I've got a 33 secs lag...
[10:23] <intelikey> nerd sudo
[10:23] <merly_> khermans, W00t. welcome (back) to wireless!
[10:24] <merly_> :v)
[10:24] <Goldfisch> I'm using X-Chat right now. Does it have some indicator to tell me what lagging latency I have?
[10:24] <nerd> or chmod u+rwx sources.list intelikely
[10:24] <lisette> i have abiword 2.2.2 why can't i save as pdf?
[10:24] <rosen> Goldfisch, right below the list of people in the chatroom
[10:25] <rosen> Goldfisch, there is a bar and a sec/ms counter
[10:25] <KrisWood> ok did sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop and it did some stuff but still no gnome
[10:25] <Seveas> ubotflu, test
[10:25] <ubotflu> Stop poking me!
[10:25] <chtamina> I'm not sure my hardware is capable of playing divx file: I use ubuntu breezy 5.10,  pentium III 600 mhz, 190 MB ram, the video adapter is integrated with mother boards, the konsolle tells me it is an VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  530/620 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 2a)
[10:25] <Seveas> @unload infobot
[10:25] <Ubugtu> The operation succeeded.
[10:25] <Seveas> @part
[10:25] <intelikey> nerd or you could just chown $UESR / -R i guess  but it will break things.
[10:26] <munzir> Sirs, Next to my "Application" Menu in ubuntu is a red circle icon, is it ubuntu icon or what? Why this same icon can be seen next some packages in synaptic?
[10:26] <Goldfisch> rosen: Okay...I see a little pip of brown. Unfortunately, I see no time stamps. Do I need to turn on something?
[10:26] <merly> khermans, eruin , and others - thank you SO much for your assistance. hopefully that's the last linux install until dapper!
[10:26] <intelikey> rosen that can be turned on and off
[10:26] <_jason> munzir, yes, it's the ubuntu logo
[10:26] <Ophiocus> when i do arp -a i get a ? instead of the name of the (win) computer connected to my local lan nic , any idea what i may be doing wrong?
[10:26] <rosen> intelikey, yeah but if you're looking for it I bet you wouldnt turn it off ;)
[10:27] <jenda_very_busy> munzir, those are approved and officially supported packages
[10:27] <eruin> merly, you should be able to dist-upgrade to it ;)
[10:27] <Kris> how do I reinstall breezy? something is very obviously wrong with my install >.<
[10:27] <munzir> jenda_very_busy, ah! thanks a lot
[10:27] <merly> eruin,  we'll see. :v)
[10:27] <intelikey> but you might trun it on or set it to digits rather than bar graph
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> munzir np
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> My nautilus froze over
[10:28] <rosen> Goldfisch, as intelikey pointed out it could be disabled but default is on, so ... well most of the time I can see no meter either but the sec counter once in a while shifts to 0.1s here
[10:28] <eggman_> Kris, use a cd
[10:28] <alekz> anyone here knows how to disable window's shadow from xfc4 ?
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> When trying to copy a data CD
[10:28] <djm62> Kris: you can reinstall the same way you installed, but it really ought not to be necessary
[10:28] <Goldfisch> rosen: Tnx. I think I found that setting.
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> Can any one tell me how to make nautilus stop worrying about the CD?
[10:29] <Linas5> umm
[10:29] <Kris> I don't have blank CDs so that's out
[10:29] <chtamina> . any suggestions ?
[10:29] <chtamina> I've tryed with videolan, mplayer, totem-xine and  totem-gstreamer
[10:29] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: im sure its not worrying about the CD :)
[10:29] <Linas5> im having a bit of a problem...
[10:29] <eggman_> Kris, shipit?
[10:29] <djm62> jenda_very_busy: xkill from a terminal?
[10:29] <ApX> how do I format my external in ubuntu
[10:29] <eggman_> or ask a friend?
[10:29] <Linas5> linas@linas:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:29] <Linas5> Reading package lists... Done
[10:29] <Linas5> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:29] <Linas5> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:29] <Linas5> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:29] <lightbright> Linas5: arent we all ;)
[10:29] <Linas5> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:29] <Linas5> or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:29] <ApX> very big newbie here
[10:29] <Linas5> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:29] <Linas5> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[10:29] <Linas5> that package should be filed.
[10:29] <Linas5> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[10:29] <Linas5> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:29] <Kris> djm62, I installed with apt-get is there a reinstall command?
[10:29] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: hello again, and yes it is :) the dirve is busy
[10:29] <Linas5>   vlc: Depends: liba52-0.7.4 but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libmodplug0c2 (>= 1:0.7-4.1) but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libmpeg2-4 but it is not installable
[10:29] <ApX> or how do i even find it in the term so I can rm everything :)
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed
[10:29] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: type "eject"
[10:30] <Linas5> E: Broken packages
[10:30] <Linas5> looks like that =P
[10:30] <djm62> Kris: you upgraded from hoary?
[10:30] <lightbright> Linas5: what?  can we see that again?  we missed it
[10:30] <Goldfisch> rosen: There we go. Now I have the status bars and the text read out of those indicators. :)
[10:30] <djm62> Linas5: stop that! it's extremely rude
[10:30] <intelikey> !paste
[10:30] <ubotflu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:30] <Linas5> lol
[10:30] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: OK thanks - that didn't work, but now it does
[10:30] <Kris> djm62, yes
[10:30] <Linas5> ok
[10:30] <djm62> Kris: what isn't working?
[10:30] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: it worked or it didnt? :P
[10:30] <eggman_> Kris reinstall hoary
[10:30] <Kris> I think it messed up because I was in gnome when I did the install
[10:30] <lightbright> Linas5: can we see that again?  we missed it heheh ;)
[10:30] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: It did
[10:30] <rosen> Goldfisch, allright .. let me hammer your ip for a while and see if it works /cackle
[10:31] <Kris> and stuff was still running
[10:31] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy:  cool :)
[10:31] <rosen> Goldfisch, just joking .. wont do that ;)
[10:31] <Kris> the problem is I'm unable to get into X
[10:31] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: the eject command has helped me a lot :)
[10:31] <djm62> Kris: specifics..."I do X, Y should happen, instead Z happens"
[10:31] <Goldfisch> rosen: Heheh. I am at Pinera Bread right now. Wanted to try my wireless laptop configuration with ubuntu in a "real-world" setting.
[10:31] <selinium> what is the command line for audio transcoding?
[10:31] <ApX> how do I format my external in ubuntu
[10:31] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: yes, me too. I asked because it refused to work at first.
[10:31] <rosen> Goldfisch, nice !.. bring me a cookie
[10:31] <greenpenguin13> mmm algebra :-p
[10:31] <Kris> djm62, I turn on my ubuntu box, I should boot into X, I don't
[10:32] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: ok
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> error messages?
[10:32] <djm62> Kris: do you get anything on the screen at all? can you log into a console?
[10:32] <Linas5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5885
[10:32] <Linas5> can someone tell me what im doing wrong?
[10:32] <Kris> djm62, lt boots to a shell prompt
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> what graphics card u got?
[10:32] <intelikey> ApX mkfs.<type> /dev/<address>
[10:32] <js_> how can i do an ubuntu netinstall? without using pxe boot
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> login at the shell and try startx
[10:32] <djm62> Kris: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:32] <ApX> thx
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> is it an nvidia graphics card?
[10:33] <ApX> and then just rm *
[10:33] <ApX> to delete everything?
[10:33] <chtamina> back again, sorry
[10:33] <ApX> I want to format the sucker
[10:33] <chtamina> did anyone answered my question about hardware and divx ?
[10:33] <greenpenguin13> rm -rf /usr/bin.  i did that once... :-p
[10:34] <intelikey> ApX making a new file system will (at least should) delete everything.   umount it first tho.
[10:34] <selinium> greenpenguin13, ? Dont put commands like that in here! :)
[10:34] <nubuntu> People, is it possible to change that ugly logout picture in KDE? (the sleeping dragon thing)
[10:34] <greenpenguin13> lol :)
[10:35] <ApX> ok I'm really new to this
[10:35] <greenpenguin13> yes use gnome instead
[10:35] <Kris> ok done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, now what?
[10:35] <ApX> this is my second day
[10:35] <greenpenguin13> try startx
[10:35] <djm62> ApX: use the scrub command or similar on the /dev/ file if you really want to shift the data
[10:35] <Kris> startx does not exist
[10:35] <nubuntu> seriously
[10:35] <djm62> Kris: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:35] <intelikey> nubuntu should be an app for that in kde
[10:35] <nubuntu> ok
[10:35] <greenpenguin13> Kris: is it an nvidia card?
[10:35] <djm62> Kris: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:36] <Kris> djm62, that returns me to a shell prompt
[10:36] <thegladiator> does nyone use anjuta to prog python ?
[10:36] <greenpenguin13> error messages
[10:36] <SAM_theman> hey guys i need your help
[10:36] <Kris> greenpenguin13, ati radeon 7000
[10:36] <SAM_theman> hey ihadthatcard
[10:36] <Matrixritter> n abend
[10:36] <greenpenguin13> Kris: less /etc/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[10:36] <SAM_theman> *i had that card
[10:36] <SAM_theman> 7000
[10:36] <SAM_theman> Ati
[10:36] <SAM_theman> never go 3d on thatthing
[10:37] <SAM_theman> never got 3d on the card
[10:37] <micke1234> I just upgraded to Dapper, and now my program menu is empty and my sound card is not working anymore?
[10:37] <Kris> greenpenguin13, no such file or directory
[10:37] <SAM_theman> just get a geforce
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> i have that
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> o
[10:37] <SAM_theman> no matter what u try you still will get like 100-200fps
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> sorry
[10:37] <cafuego> !test
[10:37] <ubotflu> Crashed.
[10:37] <SAM_theman> history -c
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> Kris: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[10:37] <Kris> SAM_theman, i don't use my linux box for 3d :p
[10:37] <SAM_theman> o ok
[10:38] <greenpenguin13> has the bot crashed agin?
[10:38] <SAM_theman> heyguyscheck this out ((nvidia-settings:10042): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_invalidate_rect: assertion `window != NULL' failed
[10:38] <SAM_theman> )
[10:38] <mrkoje> !beer
[10:38] <Linas5> ubuntu wont see ntfs right?
[10:38] <cafuego> No, the bot has not crashed again.
[10:38] <mrkoje> nope he seems fine
[10:38] <cafuego> The router in between the bot and irc.freenode.net however...
[10:38] <djm62> Linas5: ubuntu can see ntfs (writing to it is extremely discouraged)
[10:38] <Linas5> well
[10:39] <Linas5> could i pull some movies/music off of an ntfs partition?
[10:39] <Kris> greenpenguin13, not sure what you want me to say about that line from the log
[10:39] <djm62> Linas5: I think there's a page on the wiki addressing exactly that, if you search
[10:39] <SAM_theman> heres another problem i am having really not one but...
[10:39] <greenpenguin13> what does it say?
[10:39] <thegladiator> does nyone use anjuta to prog python ?
[10:39] <Linas5> thanks djm62
[10:39] <Kris> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implimented, (??) unknown
[10:39] <dazel> I don't know what I've done, but sudo doesn't work propetly and asks me for rood passwd. When I type it i get: "daze is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[10:39] <greenpenguin13> strange
[10:39] <Ophiocus> can i specify the ping commend to run on a specific ethN   ?
[10:39] <SAM_theman> i want the way my terminal looks like stay like that.What i mean i have my terminal in a wide-view angle and i want to keep it that way every time i open it
[10:40] <cafuego> Kris: That's normal.
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> Kris: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(WW)"
[10:40] <Goldfisch> dazel: Were you able to edit /etc/group?
[10:40] <khirya> gnomebaker - how come when I drag my 600mb home dir into the files area of a 700mb cd, it gets to 59% and says "file or directory is too large to fit in the remaining space on the CD" ?
[10:40] <cafuego> greenpenguin13: Warnings cna be ignored, he should be checking for (EE)
[10:40] <Kris> ooooh lots of stuff under warnings
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> nothing under (EE)
[10:40] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ?
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> Kris: what u get?
[10:40] <cafuego> Then X runs fine.
[10:40] <dazel> Goldfisch: there is: daze:x:1000
[10:40] <Juchipilo> i'm trying to installl mysql.    sudo aptitude install mysql   is not working how do i do it?
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> !paste
[10:40] <ubotflu> Not a clue, greenpenguin13
[10:40] <dazel> i dont know what should i edit
[10:40] <Kris> 'fonts.dir' not found
[10:41] <Kris> Open APM failed
[10:41] <greenpenguin13> !pastebin
[10:41] <ubotflu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:41] <Ng> Juchipilo: install mysql-server
[10:41] <Ng> Juchipilo: and probably mysql-client too
[10:41] <djm62> Kris: did you do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:41] <greenpenguin13> Kris: put the whole lot on there
[10:41] <Juchipilo> cool. thanks
[10:41] <Kris> djm62, yes
[10:41] <Ng> Juchipilo: if you can't find something like that, try "apt-cache search musql"
[10:41] <lightbright> !pastebin
[10:41] <Ng> or mysql even ;)
[10:41] <Juchipilo> ok
[10:41] <waseem> hi does anyone know a userfriendly program that will automatically connect to available wireless servers without having to type dozens of ocmmands in the terminal
[10:41] <bshumate> Ophiocus:  ping -I <iface>   (that's capital i)
[10:41] <Goldfisch> dazel: Okay...you need to find the group named admin. Then append your user id to the end, like this "admin:x:106:gregturn"
[10:41] <Ophiocus> cheers
[10:41] <Kris> i'm on my windows box at the moment it'll take forever to type it all up
[10:41] <CaptainMorgan> whoa... why is my default shell /bin/false ?
[10:42] <greenpenguin13> Kris: sudo apt-get update ; apt-get install
[10:42] <Linas5> damnit
[10:42] <Goldfisch> dazel: Then, the next time you open a shell, type "id". That will list all the groups you belong to.
[10:42] <Linas5> it wont let me install vlc
[10:42] <Ng> waseem: the Network tool in System->Administration should understand wireless networks
[10:42] <CaptainMorgan> nevermind.. oversight
[10:42] <djm62> waseem: System->Administration->Networking
[10:42] <dazel> Goldfisch: thx a lot, it works
[10:42] <Kris> my linux box isn't on the net at the moment
[10:42] <Goldfisch> waseem: network-manager is what you want.
[10:42] <Kris> gonna have to switch the modem over to it, brb
[10:42] <greenpenguin13> oh right
[10:43] <ApX> why can't I find my external?
[10:43] <djm62> :( inconvenient
[10:43] <ApX> where does it go :)
[10:43] <waseem> ok thanks guys
[10:43] <khirya> huh - if I put it on a 4g dvd it takes up 1.5 gig... where is the extra gig of sace coming from?
[10:43] <ApX> /dev/<name>
[10:43] <steele> Hello, can someone tell me how to change the login screen? I use gnome-art for this, but I can't find a way to change?!
[10:43] <munzir> jenda_very_busy, please do you know what's this section called "Installed (local or obsolete)" in the "Status" of synaptic
[10:43] <thegladiator> is there anyone who uses anjuta here ?
[10:43] <K^Holtz> well, the first time i tried installing ubuntu, i got an error saying Uncompressing linux CRC ERROR --system halted, but then i restarted the computer and everyting seemed to be going fine, i then got an error that says it cant read data from the cd-rom
[10:43] <_jason> steele, system -> admin -> login screen setup
[10:43] <jenda_very_busy> munzir: what do you meanL
[10:44] <jenda_very_busy> *?
[10:44] <Ng> munzir: those are packages that are not being used by anything else or were installed from outside the ubuntu repositories (e.g. w32codecs is usually there)
[10:44] <greenpenguin13> hah paste.ubuntu.com looks different :)
[10:44] <djm62> ApX: most likely /dev/sda(something or other)
[10:44] <Ng> munzir: if you upgraded from an older ubuntu it may also have some packages from that listed in there
[10:44] <ApX> I just want to format it :(
[10:44] <Goldfisch> K^Holtz: Do you have another machine to "test drive" that CD? I had trouble with my laptop reading the ubuntu live Cd, but the Cd worked fine on another machine. That meant the laptop CD-ROM was kaput.
[10:44] <steele> to _jason: there is no...
[10:44] <ApX> something or other?
[10:44] <intelikey> i forget is th n or the g silent in gnome ?
[10:44] <djm62> ApX: is it seen if you go to Places->Computer?
[10:44] <Goldfisch> After getting a new CD-ROM (and DVD burner!) everything works great.
[10:45] <_jason> steele, there is no what
[10:45] <K^Holtz> well i have multiple cds.. maybe ill just try a differnet one.. im kinda scared to abort the installation tho.. says it will b left in an unstable state
[10:45] <CarlFK> wifi-radar
[10:45] <Ng> intelikey: it's guh-nome as in gnu :)
[10:45] <ApX> djm62 yes
[10:45] <steele> to _jason: oh, I did a wrong translation... thanks
[10:45] <Ng> intelikey: the little dudes with fishing rods in gardens are called gnomes and the g is silent ;)
[10:45] <djm62> ApX: if you right-click on that do you have the option to format?
[10:45] <corresponder> ole
[10:45] <munzir> Ng, I have libdvdcss2 there and this is  a fresh install !
[10:45] <steele> _jason: I found it, thx, good night :-) bye
[10:45] <ApX> djm62 no
[10:45] <_jason> steele, np, cya
[10:46] <ApX> right click doesn't do anything
[10:46] <Ng> munzir: did you follow any of the RestrictedFormats wiki instructions for media codecs? If so that's probably why you have that
[10:46] <KrisWood> sudo apt-get update ; apt-get install returned a few errors
[10:46] <Ng> munzir: it's for reading video from encrypted DVDs
[10:46] <intelikey> ng so it is said G N O M E  ?   like   G N U  ?
[10:46] <_jason> ga-nome
[10:46] <Ng> intelikey: it's pronounce guh-nome as in guh-noo (gnu)
[10:46] <djm62> ApX: if you get the properties screen up, it should tell you what /dev/sd file to use for it
[10:46] <KrisWood> some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:46] <Goldfisch> Well, that is g-news to me!
[10:47] <djm62> ApX: you can't right-click on the icon? are you on a mac?
[10:47] <munzir> Ng, Umm! may be I don't remember now. so there is multiverse libdvdcss for ubuntu?
[10:47] <johnsie2k> !firefox
[10:47] <ubotflu> johnsie2k: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:47] <intelikey> Ng gnu is pronounced  gee in you
[10:47] <munzir> Ng, s/there is /there isn't
[10:47] <ApX> yes
[10:47] <corresponder> gnuh
[10:47] <ApX> on a mac
[10:47] <Ng> intelikey: no it's not :)
[10:47] <Kris> Could not open loc file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:47] <Kris> Unable to lock the list directory
[10:47] <Ng> munzir: no, it's a legally questionable package, so I don't think they distribute it at all
[10:47] <Kris> there, that's all of them
[10:47] <djm62> ApX: I have no idea how to right-click on a mac
[10:47] <johnsie2k> anyone have a date for firefox 1.5 yet?
[10:47] <greenpenguin13> did you remenber sudo?
[10:47] <Kris> yup
[10:47] <_jason> ctrl-click right clicks on a mac
[10:48] <Plugh> I pronounce gnu like the animal.
[10:48] <Kris> did I need to put sudo after the semicolon?
[10:48] <Ng> www.gnu.org lists canonical pronunciation if you don't believe me ;)
[10:48] <munzir> Ng, ah! thanks but saying obsolete for it is not meaningful at all
[10:48] <Ng> and this is waaay off topic ;)
[10:48] <ApX>  I do iwas f12
[10:48] <djm62> Kris: yes you did
[10:48] <Kris> ok
[10:48] <Ng> munzir: it says "obsolete or local" - that package is local, not obsolete
[10:48] <K^Holtz> i just got this CRC error again
[10:48] <Kris> brb yet again
[10:48] <K^Holtz> what does that mean?
[10:48] <Ng> munzir: it has no real way of telling the difference unfortunately
[10:48] <ApX> but I changed it, right click still does nothing in the filebrowser
[10:48] <Kris> the problem is; my linux box was my firewall / router
[10:48] <SAM_theman> brb
[10:48] <Goldfisch> Well, I learned that word from a kid's TV show years ago, with the character "Gary Ga-New". He was the news caster.
[10:48] <munzir> Ng, ah! thanks a lot for your quick nice tips
[10:49] <Goldfisch> And I just use "nome" like those travelocity ads. Heheh
[10:49] <Kris> single net connection has to be passed back and forth heh
[10:49] <Kris> oh well
[10:49] <Kris> brb
[10:49] <johnsie2k> anyone have a date for firefox 1.5 yet?
[10:49] <ApX> properties says nothing about  /dev/sd file to use for it
[10:49] <djm62> ApX: but you managed to right-click?
[10:49] <greenpenguin13> dapper has 1.5...
[10:49] <micke1234> Hi, my sound doesn't work in Dapper? I don't think the right modules are loaded... I have a NVidia CK804 AC-97 card
[10:49] <ApX> djm62 yes
[10:49] <Ng> johnsie2k: it won't be released for breezy except maybe in backports, so the official date for getting it into ubuntu will be the dapper release in Apri
[10:50] <Ng> l
[10:50] <johnsie2k> is adapper later than breezy?
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> dapper is the current devel release
[10:50] <johnsie2k> is it semi-stable?
[10:50] <munzir> Ng, is there any way to tell from where a package came from in synaptic? which repo I mean? multiverse or universe or ...?
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> im using it
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> but im not stable either, so...
[10:51] <Goldfisch> Time to pack it in. Pinera was fun while I was here. Later.
[10:51] <Ng> munzir: if you right click on a package and choose Properties the "Section" field in the "Common" tab should tell you
[10:51] <johnsie2k> I'd upgrade if i thought it would be reliable
[10:51] <johnsie2k> ol, and if aI knew how
[10:51] <greenpenguin13> ud need a second computer
[10:51] <Kris> ok that fixed some of the errors
[10:51] <greenpenguin13> sometimes x wont start or something like that
[10:51] <ApX> why when I try to cd into /dev/sda it says it's not there?
[10:51] <johnsie2k> why? cant you apt get it?
[10:52] <ApX> I'm staring at it!
[10:52] <Kris> some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:52] <djm62> ApX: ah-ha
[10:52] <Ng> johnsie2k: do not upgrade until release
[10:52] <djm62> ApX: it's a design thing
[10:52] <Ng> johnsie2k: if you really want ff1.5 (and it is probably worth doing), look at the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page, it'll talk you through a manual install
[10:52] <ApX> geez
[10:52] <djm62> ApX: use the mkfs command you were told earlier on /dev/sda
[10:52] <johnsie2k> what stage are they at with dapper?
[10:52] <greenpenguin13> Kris: put ur /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:52] <user_> hey can someone help me?
[10:53] <ApX> ok
[10:53] <merly> how do i change the permissions so that a user can browse ntfs windows permission? sudo chmod hda1 -r-r-r says no good, it's a read only partition
[10:53] <Kris> greenpenguin13, I can't
[10:53] <Kris> I have no way to copy paste
[10:53] <_jason> user_, just ask and we can try
[10:53] <johnsie2k> it'd rather wait until it's in the repositores
[10:53] <munzir> Ng, you are marvellous!
[10:53] <ApX> I'll be back
[10:53] <alaine> hi everyone
[10:53] <djm62> I bet
[10:53] <thegladiator> i cant get add apllications>programmming>stanis python editor(SPE) can anyone else get it ? the download just winds up!
[10:53] <user_> can u guys help me install ubuntu on my other laptop
[10:53] <K^Holtz> is there any way to make my computer boot from the cd burner? i went to boot order in bios and for some reason its not listed there
[10:53] <munzir> user_, what's your problem?
[10:54] <amz0> I'm seeing the following error in the syslog when I connect my usb 2 hub: localhost kernel: [4300562.221000]  usb 3-2: device not accepting address 22, error -71 Could someone help me out please?
[10:54] <od1n> merly: you need to edit /etc/fstab
[10:54] <seanj> hi
[10:54] <user_> when i get to the partison disks i get confused
[10:54] <thegladiator> i cant get add apllications>programmming>stanis python editor(SPE) can anyone else get it ? the download just winds up!
[10:54] <merly> odln thanks
[10:54] <xandron_root> K^Holtz: maybe its a SCSI burner
[10:54] <Ng> johnsie2k: that's fair enough. dapper seems to be progressing well, but I really really recommend waiting until at least the preview release before you upgrade - even if it's stable today it could explode on you tomorrow ;)
[10:54] <Linas5> damnit
[10:54] <munzir> K^Holtz, booting from a cd burner shouldn't be different than a cd reader
[10:54] <Linas5> these stupid unmet dependencies things are gay
[10:54] <thegladiator> diesel, are u there ?
[10:54] <djm62> !gay
[10:55] <Ng> Linas5: would you like to not be homophobic and ask a question about how you fix your problem? ;)
[10:55] <djm62> in every sense
[10:55] <user_> can u guys help me install ubuntu?!?!?!?!
[10:55] <Linas5> ok
[10:55] <Linas5> sorry Ng
[10:55] <greenpenguin13> sure
[10:55] <K^Holtz> munzir well its not listed in bios, i even detected hardware... for some reason i keep getting an eror wen i try to install from my normal cd drive
[10:55] <Linas5> wont happen again i swear
[10:55] <thegladiator> could you please check out if the add aplications>programming>stanis python editor(SPE) is working ?
[10:55] <ApX> ok wait
[10:55] <ApX> I doen't want ext2 on there
[10:55] <thegladiator> thanks
[10:55] <Linas5> anyone wanna tell me why vlc and mplayer both give me these weird things at the end that are un-installabe?
[10:55] <ApX> I'd like fat32
[10:55] <K^Holtz> seanj how did u boot from it?
[10:55] <ApX> so my brother can use the sucker
[10:56] <djm62> ApX: what do you want on there? vfat==fat32
[10:56] <alaine> hi kuyaedz
[10:56] <Kuyaedz> hi..
[10:56] <ApX> djm62 yes
[10:56] <thegladiator> Linas5, graphcis card problems ? new one ?
[10:56] <incipiens> hi all
[10:56] <greenpenguin13> evening
[10:56] <djm62> ApX: mkfs.vfat
[10:56] <thegladiator> thats as far as i can trace it
[10:56] <alaine> how ru kuya edz?
[10:56] <user_> brb
[10:56] <ApX> oh :)
[10:56] <thegladiator> i cant get add apllications>programmming>stanis python editor(SPE) can anyone else get it ? the download just winds up!
[10:56] <Kuyaedz> alaine: good :)
[10:56] <seanj> K^Holtz: my bios has a setting for boot devices, so i inclued the cd-rw drive as a bootable device, the *first* bootable device so it wouldn't try the HD which already has an OS on it
[10:56] <ApX> thx
[10:56] <alaine> ru filipino kuya edz?
[10:56] <Linas5> thegladiator, i'm using whatever is in my lappy?
[10:56] <Kris> ok there were three lines in my sources.list that were not breezy
[10:56] <Kris> trying now
[10:56] <Kris> brb
[10:56] <munzir> K^Holtz, could it be that yours is defected?
[10:57] <Kuyaedz> alaine: dili, pero bisdak man ko
[10:57] <seanj> K^Holtz: some BIOS aren't able to boot off CD.. and that part I haven't gotten past yet :/
[10:57] <thegladiator> Linas5, old lappy ?
[10:57] <Linas5> kinda
[10:57] <alaine> ano bidak?
[10:57] <Linas5> piii 650
[10:57] <alaine> ano bisdak kuya edz?
[10:57] <zerozero> hi every body out there
[10:57] <merly> od1n, i added "user" to the option for hda1 but it didn't help
[10:57] <Linas5> why?
[10:57] <seanj> hi there zerozero
[10:57] <djm62> quick Q for the channel: is there a more "ubuntu way" to format an external drive? this seems a bit close to the system to force people into
[10:57] <Kuyaedz> alaine: cebu.. visayan
[10:57] <alaine> ok
[10:57] <zerozero> i've just a little question (hi seanj!)
[10:57] <ApX> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sda
[10:57] <seanj> :)
[10:58] <K^Holtz> ok.. so who can answer this one.. Uncompressing Linux...      crc error      --system halted        <--get that wen i try to install ubuntu
[10:58] <zerozero> :)
[10:58] <Kuyaedz> alaine: I only know a little tagalog..
[10:58] <od1n> merly: the line will be like...    defaults,ro,uid=merly,gid=merly
[10:58] <ApX> wtc
[10:58] <alaine> ok
[10:58] <alaine> wer u from kuya edz?
[10:58] <od1n> merly: the ro is for ntfs only
[10:58] <djm62> ApX: you need to use sudo.  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda
[10:58] <ApX> and sda1 says contains mounted drive
[10:58] <zerozero> i'm a long time linux addicted, but just a newby in the ubuntu world
[10:58] <ApX> ok
[10:58] <seanj> same here zerozero !
[10:58] <ApX> how do I know if it's sda or sda1?
[10:58] <djm62> ApX: oh, sda1 contains a mounted drive....
[10:58] <kspath> Linas5: most likely due to your government and those of other nations and     going overboard attempts to enforce copyrights and piracy protection     so anything related to decoding and some formats "owned" by some organizations are restricted in various ways for various reasons    it does not seem logical  when all you might want to do is watch a DVD or play some muzik that you paid for legally...
[10:58] <ApX> yes
[10:59] <djm62> ApX: from Places->Computer you should be able to unmount that, for starters
[10:59] <ApX> but in >system>admin>disk it said sda
[10:59] <zerozero> so that's not so good, seanj :-)
[10:59] <jhina> the file browser wont view the NTFS format how do i enable NTFS and FAT32 file formats on GNEOE
[10:59] <Linas5> dang
[10:59] <ApX> ok so unmount first
[10:59] <Linas5> i just want to watch some movies
[10:59] <user_> hey
[10:59] <seanj> lol... it's just growing pains, pay them no mind
[10:59] <user_> someone help me install ubuntu
[10:59] <seanj> hi user_
[10:59] <djm62> good to see so many newbies in here :)
[11:00] <seanj> what's the magic word?
[11:00] <seanj> :P
[11:00] <user_> plz
[11:00] <seanj> lol ty
[11:00] <kspath> Linas5: lok to forums and faqs and guides   they often tell ways of getting the semi-restricted silly stuffs
[11:00] <KrisWood> grrr
[11:00] <user_> ok i hold on
[11:00] <Linas5> kk
[11:00] <Linas5> thanks kspath
[11:00] <jahshua> can anyone tell me how to set ident in Kubuntu ?? i did sudo apt-cache search identd and it returned .. Postgresql 7.4 object relational SQL database version 7.4 and then same again but with version 8.0'
[11:00] <dooglus> Linas5: did you see this?
[11:00] <dooglus> !mp3
[11:00] <ubotflu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:00] <KrisWood> I commented out the three that didn't say what distro they were and the errors went away
[11:00] <KrisWood> then I noticed a bunch of warnings
[11:00] <aTypical> Hey, all.  Is there a general concensus on what the best book is for learning linux?
[11:00] <jhina> the file browser wont view the NTFS format how do i enable NTFS and FAT32 file formats on GNEOE
[11:00] <ubuntu> www.tldp.org
[11:01] <KrisWood> aTypical, google
[11:01] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ??
[11:01] <seanj> jahshua: sudo apt-get install pidentd
[11:01] <od1n> aTypical: i used RUTE... showing its age a bit now, but still v useful
[11:01] <zerozero> seanj: ok, but i told you: i'm accustomed to linux world, so i'm accustomed in making pretty good efforts in order to have things working... ;-)
[11:01] <djm62> aTypical: none at all, something called RUTE is quite good if you want to learn from the command line
[11:01] <thegladiator> aTypical, the general consensus is that there is no such general consensus ;d
[11:01] <Kris> the warnings i get all say no such file or directory on the repository servers
[11:01] <thegladiator> but seriously...
[11:01] <Seveas> the rute book is ok
[11:01] <merly> odln  , that didn't do it for me
[11:01] <Plugh> aTypical: learn it so you can administer it or learn it so you can use it?
[11:01] <Seveas> and free
[11:01] <ApX> djm62 I think I got it :)
[11:01] <djm62> Kris: can you put your sources.list on a pastebin somewhere?
[11:01] <intelikey> well i still have failed to find one single redeeming quality about ubuntu aside form the fact that it is gnu-linux there is nothing remarkable about it what so ever.    but thanks for your time guys.
[11:01] <ApX> you are the man
[11:01] <Kris> so I'm thinking I need to find the correct sources.list for breezy
[11:02] <seanj> zerozero: you might be disappointed then.. i'm running into the 'just works' scenaria with Ubuntu.. 'no hacking required' :P
[11:02] <od1n> merly: have you unmounted and remounted the windows partition?
[11:02] <Seveas> !tell Kris about sources
[11:02] <djm62> intelikey: it has no redeeming features ;)
[11:02] <djm62> ApX: is all good?
[11:02] <Kris> thanks :)
[11:02] <thegladiator> there are tons of good books for linux basics
[11:02] <intelikey> that's the conclusion i came to djm62
[11:02] <aTypical> Plugh, a little of both, I guess.  My company will be bringing in a couple of Red Hat servers, but I'm not sure I want to gear myself specifically towards RedHat.
[11:02] <ApX> djm62 I think so
[11:02] <zerozero> seanj: what program do you use to burn your iso under ubuntu? (i tried gcombust, but it's not so good)
[11:02] <djm62> ApX: cool, cool
[11:03] <dooglus> how can I set which keyboard layout is used outside of X?
[11:03] <aTypical> thegladiator, that's the problem.  How do you know which is good and which is a POS?
[11:03] <seanj> zerozero: i kind of go with the trend and use k3b
[11:03] <annibis> does anyone know the name of the filesharing program that comes with ubuntu?
[11:03] <Kris> aTypical, it depends on what you want to do with it
[11:03] <seanj> zerozero: even though it doesn't blend in so well with GNOME, it works well
[11:03] <dooglus> in the virtual consoles, I think it's set up as an american keyboard.  can I change it?
[11:03] <Kris> each distro is geared toward diferent ends
[11:03] <user_> can some one help me install partition disks
[11:03] <aTypical> Kris, yeah and that's kind of a problem.
[11:03] <user_> seanj
[11:03] <kspath> zerozero: did you try gnomebaker or K3b ?
[11:03] <dooglus> annibis: bittorrent?
[11:03] <ApX> djm62 how do I mount it again :)
[11:03] <wolki> user: sure, where's the problem?
[11:04] <aTypical> I guess I'm looking more towards the administration side.
[11:04] <zerozero> seanj: sure, it's nice... but i just didn't feel like downloading a tons of deb packages to install it this night... :-(
[11:04] <Kris> I recommend BSD for most admin stuff
[11:04] <djm62> ApX: once it's formatted? unplug and plug
[11:04] <dooglus> !keyboard
[11:04] <ubotflu> dooglus: What?
[11:04] <user_> can u hyelp me install partiton disks
[11:04] <annibis> dooglus, theres also one like limewire
[11:04] <Bachus9000> Has anyone here used Chillispot to setup a wireless hotspot?
[11:04] <dooglus> !layout
[11:04] <zerozero> seanj: where are you from?
[11:04] <ubotflu> Bugger all, i dunno, dooglus
[11:04] <ApX> ok
[11:04] <Kris> seems to run pretty solid
[11:04] <seanj> user_: if you're sharing the disk with windows, you'll need some free space... you need 1 root partition (/) and one swap partition.. i usually use the whole disk minus 1 megabyte.. then use that megabyte for swap
[11:04] <Kris> a lot of people swear by gentoo
[11:04] <seanj> zerozero: i'm in Victoria, BC Canada :)
[11:04] <user_> im not
[11:04] <Kris> ubuntu is more for end users
[11:04] <kspath> or swear at Gentoo
[11:04] <Plugh> "Kiss the Blue Screen of Death" by Marcel Gagne is a good introductory book for using Linux. If you are getting servers in you need something more that will give you more information relating to the setting up and configuration of system services.
[11:04] <Kris> redhat is somewhere in the middle
[11:04] <dooglus> seanj: there's no point using a 1 meg swap partition!
[11:05] <djm62> and most people in the world are end users
[11:05] <seanj> user_: oki, then you might be better off letting the partitioner make the choices for you!
[11:05] <wolki> user_: how much space do you have available?
[11:05] <waseem> hi im getting the following error when trying to upgrade synaptic packages: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.23a3b0000005ap-1333.4.0-0ubuntu3.3_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf
[11:05] <waseem> any ideas how to fix the problem?
[11:05] <od1n> re gentoo: has everyone seen the 'gentoo is rice' page? really funny
[11:05] <zerozero> seanj: pretty a good distance from here... :-) i'm from tuscany, italy.
[11:05] <bshumate> djm62: most people in the world do not have computers... ;-)
[11:05] <ApX> djm62 not mounting too good :/
[11:05] <seanj> dooglus: no? maybe i'm a bit overly cautious.. someone once told me to use double system ram as a figure for it.. havent run out of vram yet :)
[11:05] <merly> odln agreed funny .
[11:05] <djm62> bshumate: good point :(
[11:05] <seanj> ahh italy :)
[11:05] <Kris> brb gonna try out this new sources.list
[11:06] <K^Holtz> ok, so my computer is failing to Load installer component from CD   .. can someone please tell me what i should do here? i cant boot from my burner for some reason, and i already tried two different install cds
[11:06] <dooglus> seanj: what's your system ram?  512k?
[11:06] <djm62> ApX: did you give it time to format?
[11:06] <seanj> dooglus: you got it
[11:06] <user_> how do i insatll partition disks?!?!
[11:06] <dooglus> seanj: 640k should be enough for anyone, I know.
[11:06] <ApX> djm62 yea it was done with the command in the term
[11:06] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ???
[11:06] <Chris_C> I have a basic apt/synaptic question ...
[11:06] <seanj> dooglus: next time i scrap my system, if ever, i'll try that
[11:06] <dooglus> seanj: I think maybe you're getting your k's, m's and g's mixed up?
[11:06] <merly> oldn i'm having trouble unmounting it, it says it's busy
[11:07] <seanj> lol
[11:07] <Chris_C> If I download a deb file and install it with dpkg, will synaptic know about it?
[11:07] <_jason> Chris_C, yes
[11:07] <od1n> merly: are you currently accessing it from any directory?
[11:07] <zerozero> kspath: i'll try gnomebaker immediately, thank you so much!!
[11:07] <djm62> ApX: and when you plug it in, what happens?
[11:07] <dooglus> seanj: 1 gig for swap is reasonable.  1 meg isn't...
[11:07] <seanj> hrm, after installing pidentd i get "grep: /etc/inetd.conf: No such file or directory
[11:07] <topyli> seanj: if you get 4 gigs of ram, i wounldn't suggest you make a 8G swap :)
[11:07] <Chris_C> _jason: thanks
[11:07] <od1n> merly: like maybe some console window you've forgotten about?
[11:07] <seanj> ahh 8 gig! i get your point now :P
[11:08] <ApX> djm62 not much
[11:08] <jhina> how do i enable NTFS and FAT32 file formats
[11:08] <ApX> djm62 light comes on and it works...
[11:08] <zerozero> seanj: have you ever been here?
[11:08] <dooglus> I would think that the more RAM you have, the less swap you'll need.
[11:08] <user_> i got it to work!
[11:08] <seanj> zerozero: yeppers i have, a few times now
[11:08] <ApX> djm62 doing some spinning
[11:08] <djm62> ApX: please, be as specific as possible?  if you go to Places->Computer?
[11:08] <Chris_C> I'm having no luck getting the "malyjarda" repository configured in synaptic so I'll have to go with downloading the deb files (note: newbie)
[11:09] <ApX> djm62 no it's not in there
[11:09] <zerozero> kismet: hi, are you from pisa?
[11:09] <ApX> :)
[11:09] <Kuyaedz> !help
[11:09] <djm62> ApX: you formatted /dev/sda1 right?
[11:09] <Kuyaedz> oops :)
[11:09] <ApX> djm62 sorry
[11:09] <zerozero> seanj: did you enjoy yourself? what places did you visit?
[11:10] <ApX> djm62 yes
[11:10] <djm62> ApX: can you try this from the command line: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
[11:10] <Pygi> can somebody please tell me what a kenrel is? thank you ;)
[11:10] <paulproteus|lapt> Pygi: It's part of a corn seed.
[11:10] <paulproteus|lapt> See wikipedia:Corn
[11:11] <Kuyaedz> Pygi: the kernel is basically what runs the show--what talks to the processor, etc..
[11:11] <_jason> Pygi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel
[11:11] <djm62> Pygi: that is more than a two-liner in a chatroom.  wikipedia and kernel.org can help you
[11:11] <od1n> Pygi: a misspelling of 'kennel'?
[11:11] <dooglus> the kernel is the core of an operating system. It is a piece of software responsible for providing secure access to the machine's hardware and to various computer processes
[11:11] <topyli> Pygi: it's the core of an operating system. it handles the system calls, acting as a mediator between the hardware and userspace programs
[11:11] <topyli> very vaguely speaking
[11:11] <Pygi> hehe, how many answer ;)
[11:11] <K^Holtz> well, i know u are all busy, but hopefully someone will notice wut im sayin.. Its getting the same error even when i try to boot the live cd
[11:11] <ApX> djm62 it's trying I think
[11:11] <topyli> Pygi: it's a philosophical question really =)
[11:12] <zerozero> bye bye to you all, thanks for your help!
[11:12] <Pygi> I was just joking ;) LOL ;)
[11:12] <ApX> djm62 HD light is working on something
[11:12] <Pygi> Few days I tried to ask that question nobody replied ;)
[11:12] <djm62> ApX: it will tell you what's wrong if there's something wrong, but it could just be taking a while
[11:12] <ApX> djm62 ok
[11:12] <Pygi> od1n: oh, yes, kernel* ;)
[11:12] <ApX> djm62 well it's def taking a min
[11:12] <od1n> pygi: lol ;)
[11:12] <Pygi> ok, now, what is hm....motherboard? ;)
[11:13] <yohan> does anyone know how to bind an alias in openbox?
[11:13] <topyli> Pygi: now suddendly, everybody is an expert ;-)
[11:13] <Pygi> topyli: yea, it seems people learn really fast ;) hehe ;)
[11:13] <ApX> djm62 ok the light stopped and the command finished, but still no mount
[11:13] <yohan> i can bind commands such as firefox but when i try to bind an alias defined in .bashrc it dont work
[11:13] <djm62> ApX: what error did it give?
[11:13] <dooglus> does anyone know how to select which keyboard layout is used in the virtual terminals?
[11:14] <ApX> djm62 no error
[11:14] <djm62> ApX: no error means success
[11:14] <djm62> ApX: if you cd /mnt
[11:14] <djm62> that's your drive
[11:14] <ApX> djm62 :) well it's not showing up in places>
[11:14] <merly> od1n, i finally got it unmounted and remounted. but it still says i don'thave permission
[11:14] <topyli> Pygi: it's the board in your PC box to which you attach all the other stuff. it handles the traffic inside tha machine
[11:15] <_jason> ApX, mount it somewhere in /media for it to show up in places i think
[11:15] <merly> od1n, i can make it through this way... copy files as root into user directory then change permissions
[11:15] <_jason> ApX, or just bookmark it in nautilus now
[11:15] <Pygi> topli: ok, do I eat motherboard?
[11:15] <djm62> _jason: ah, I always wondered
[11:15] <od1n> merly: ok, put your fstab in pastebin and post the URL
[11:15] <johnsie2k> how do I remove a .deb file
[11:15] <topyli> Pygi: i wouldn't recommend that
[11:15] <dooglus> merly: mount it with "-o umask=0"
[11:15] <djm62> johnsie2k: rm filename.deb
[11:15] <johnsie2k> im mean intsall !`!!!
[11:15] <Pygi> topyli: why not? LOL XD
[11:15] <johnsie2k> lol
[11:15] <ApX> ok I am an extreme newbie here :)
[11:15] <topyli> Pygi: stick to kernels :)
[11:15] <ApX> mount it how again :)
[11:15] <Pygi> topyli: oh, so I eat kernel?
[11:16] <johnsie2k> how do I install a .deb file
[11:16] <dooglus> johnsie2k: "sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>"
[11:16] <djm62> man, I don't normally like to see people kicked, but please, pygi, stop it
[11:16] <johnsie2k> thanks
[11:16] <topyli> Pygi: of course. every good meal has some kernels in it. not necessarily operating system kernels but perhaps wheat or something =)
[11:16] <Pygi> djm62: k, sorry ;)
[11:16] <Pygi> just joking a little ;)
[11:16] <merly> dooglus - that did it. now , how do i make it mount that way automagically
[11:16] <greenpenguin13> is there a way to keep rhythmbox running when x isn't running?
[11:17] <Seveas> no
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> oh well :/
[11:17] <jrr> perhaps with a vnc screen
[11:17] <johnsie2k> Is gaim 2.0 worth getting instead of 1.5?
[11:17] <od1n> merly: this is the line i've got in my fstab:      /dev/hda1   /windows    ntfs  defaults,ro,uid=1000,gid=1000  0   0  and it works fine for me
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> its nice
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> if you can be bothered
[11:17] <theblue> Hi all, I have an NTFS filesystem (/dev/hda1), that I mounted to /media/hda1, under Breezy Server.  I use the -w flag, but it still says "Read-only Filesystem".  How can I make it writeable?
[11:17] <jrr> johnsie2k: try it =] 
[11:17] <Pygi> johnsie: not just yet...
[11:17] <dooglus> merly: edit /etc/fstab
[11:17] <djm62> ApX: this long line: sudo umount /dev/sda1&& sudo mount -t vfat -o users,rw /dev/sda1 /media
[11:17] <Seveas> johnsie2k, yes, but it does not work properly yet
[11:17] <dashinho> Hello... I have a weird problem with Firefox on Kubuntu (not quite sure if this happens on gnome to)... when I try to open a site with flash it freezes, I can't do anything so I have to kill it. I installed the flash plugin for mozilla but that didn't work. It also randomly freezes on any site after like 10 or 20 minutes of working. Any idea of what may be happening here?
[11:17] <johnsie2k> =] 
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> works fine for me
[11:17] <ApX> djm62 I love you
[11:17] <Pygi> theblue: use -rw
[11:17] <topyli> greenpenguin13: no. use a daemon like mpd so you can log out and in without interrupting the noise
[11:17] <lucasvo> theblue: you need the windrivers to write
[11:17] <dooglus> djm62: "user", not "users", right?
[11:17] <jrr> !ntfs
[11:17] <ubotflu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:18] <kemik> !cairo
[11:18] <ubotflu> kemik: I give up, what is it?
[11:18] <theblue> lucasvo: How do I get those?
[11:18] <jrr> ntfs, last i checked, is not stably writeable
[11:18] <kemik> !dapper
[11:18] <ubotflu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:18] <theblue> !ntfs
[11:18] <djm62> dooglus: offhand, I forget ApX user instead of users
[11:18] <lucasvo> theblue: see what ubotflu said
[11:18] <ApX> djm62 where do I learn this stuff?
[11:18] <bshumate> !beer
[11:18] <theblue> lucasvo: Thanks.
[11:18] <djm62> ApX: if the ubuntu people do their jobs, you won't have to ;)
[11:18] <ompaul> !shoot the duck
[11:19] <lucasvo> what's ubotflu's favourite beer?
[11:19] <ompaul> !apx
[11:19] <ubotflu> ompaul: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> ubotflu Cairo is an Open Source library for vector graphics
[11:19] <topyli> lucasvo: i bet it's heineken
[11:19] <ubotflu> okay, greenpenguin13
[11:19] <ompaul> !airportX
[11:19] <ubotflu> ompaul: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:19] <lucasvo> !microsoft
[11:19] <ubotflu> lucasvo: Wish i knew
[11:19] <xandron_root> !ubuntu
[11:19] <ubotflu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> !cairo
[11:19] <lucasvo> !bug 1
[11:19] <ubotflu> lucasvo: Are you on ritalin?
[11:19] <ubotflu> greenpenguin13: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:19] <xandron_root> !awards
[11:19] <theblue> !debian
[11:19] <Seveas> STOP PLAYING WITH THE BOT
[11:19] <ubotflu> I guess awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[11:19] <Pygi> don't abuse the bot, please
[11:19] <ubotflu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> !Cairo
[11:19] <ubotflu> greenpenguin13: Not a clue
[11:20] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, especially you
[11:20] <greenpenguin13> yep
[11:20] <greenpenguin13> how come it doesnt remember information?
[11:20] <topyli> hmm. the bot has a nice view of debian. accurate too
[11:20] <lucasvo> Seveas: why? is he running on a winmachine ? and crashing ? :S
[11:20] <cius> anyone know why my volume applet on one of my panels would randomly disappear?
[11:20] <Seveas> lucasvo, it is annoying and spamming the channel
[11:20] <lucasvo> Seveas: anyway, who enters all these messages?
[11:20] <Seveas> lucasvo, anyone who wants
[11:21] <topyli> lucasvo: you and me
[11:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: how?
[11:21] <Seveas> ubotflu, tell lucasvo about yourself
[11:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: should I get something in query?
[11:21] <greenpenguin13> ubotflu, tell greepenguin13 about yourself
[11:21] <Seveas> lucasvo, yes
[11:21] <ApX> djm62 ok too late for that users thing :)
[11:21] <morph4tqwertqw> hey guys im having a shit load of problems
[11:21] <topyli> lucasvo: if your nick is registered
[11:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: but I don't
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> im in morphix right now cuz i cant boot ubuntu
[11:22] <lucasvo> topyli: it is
[11:22] <xandron_root> ubotflu, tell ubotflu about yourself
[11:22] <greenpenguin13> whatsup?
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: should be ok, I think
[11:22] <ApX> djm62 so where is it now? :)
[11:22] <Pygi> morph: shoot
[11:22] <yatesy> lol xandron_root
[11:22] <xandron_root> lol
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: I'm not sure why it isn't automounting...
[11:22] <Pygi> xandron: don't abuse bot
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> first i keep getting failed read/write errors during installation
[11:22] <lucasvo> ubotflu, tell lucasvo about yourself
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> then when it finally goes through
[11:22] <lucasvo> but I don't
[11:22] <Plugh> morph4tqwertqw: Have you tested the CD media?
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: /media (I hoped that moving it to there would make it pop up)
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> yeah
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: but try going to there
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> it goes through sometimes
[11:22] <topyli> !lart xandron_root
[11:22] <lucasvo> Seveas: I dunno what's yourself
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> ive reinstalled about 15 times today
[11:22] <ApX> djm62 ok
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> when it boots up to install the modules, it freezes
[11:23] <od1n> morph: any chance it could be the hard drive?
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> maybe
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> that was the original problem
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> im switching from xp
[11:23] <djm62> ApX: (I think this might be one of breezy's problem areas...I've had similar problems)
[11:23] <od1n> have you tested it?
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> xp corrupted everything
[11:23] <yatesy> sounds about right
[11:23] <ApX> djm62 hmm, not there
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> how would i go about fixing the drive?
[11:23] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ????
[11:24] <od1n> what make is it?
[11:24] <Seveas> !ubotu
[11:24] <ubotflu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:24] <Seveas> lucasvo, ^--
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> maxtor?
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> i think
[11:24] <ApX> djm62 well it mounts about half the time
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> yeah
[11:24] <lucasvo> Seveas: would it be possible to let ubotflu join #edubuntu?
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> ive installed ubuntu many times and never had this issue
[11:24] <Plugh> morph4tqwertqw: You should run a bad block check on the hard drive.
[11:24] <od1n> morph: you can go to the maxtor homepage and download their frive-testing tool
[11:24] <Seveas> lucasvo, ask cafuego (note that ubotflu is a temp. replacement since ubotu's datacenter is crappy atm)
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> how would i go about checking it?
[11:25] <djm62> ApX: I'm not sitting at your computer, which makes it that bit more difficult...like playing pool with a bit of string
[11:25] <od1n> morph: you'll download a floppy image, write it to a floppy using dd, then rebbot
[11:25] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: firefox sucks less than many other browsers, but it still sucks quite a bit
[11:25] <lucasvo> cafuego: could you add ubotflu/ubotu to #edubuntu?
[11:25] <Kuyaedz> is it a simple: apt-get install kde to add that as a gdm option?
[11:25] <cdmbhs> question: im using the live CD to boot into a comp with a messed up windows xp, however during the ubuntu boot process (right after i hit enter), the system restarts... anyone know a way around this?
[11:25] <od1n> morph: hang on, i'll find a link
[11:25] <djm62> Kuyaedz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I think
[11:25] <morph4tqwertqw> thanks
[11:25] <ApX> djm62 ok well I appriciate the help
[11:26] <Kartagis> hi
[11:26] <Kartagis> I have a problem
[11:26] <topyli> lucasvo: i don't think he's around right now
[11:26] <lucasvo> topyli: hm'k
[11:26] <Plugh> man badblocks
[11:26] <CaptainMorgan> Kartagis, I have an answer...
[11:26] <od1n> morph: www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/powermax.htm
[11:26] <topyli> lucasvo: i'm sure it won't be a problem. it would be good to get good old ubotu back before that though
[11:27] <lucasvo> topyli: what's wrong with him?
[11:27] <topyli> lucasvo: i have no idea :)
[11:27] <morph4tqwertqw> would i run this in xp?
[11:27] <od1n> morph: looks like exe only tho... bit annoying. got a windows machine handy?
[11:27] <od1n> morph: yes, and it will create a bootable floppy
[11:27] <johnsie2k> arggg.. I'm bored... someone tell me a fun program to intall
[11:28] <johnsie2k> =] 
[11:28] <morph4tqwertqw> yeah, i had to install XP on the other harddrive to rescue files
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> gtkorphan
[11:28] <Knorrie> johnsie2k: sl
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> bzflag
[11:28] <djm62> johnsie2k: liquidwars
[11:28] <Seveas> johnsie2k, xmoto
[11:28] <morph4tqwertqw> floppy, crap!
[11:28] <Knorrie> johnsie2k: bastet
[11:28] <xandron_root> johnsie2k: fortune
[11:28] <djm62> johnsie2k: earth3d
[11:28] <_jason> lol
[11:28] <johnsie2k> lol not all at once
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> windows
[11:28] <Seveas> johnsie2k, cowsay
[11:28] <djm62> johnsie2k: if you feel creative, inkscape
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> blender
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> nmap :-p
[11:28] <ompaul> morph4tqwertqw, you did not - you could have used a Linux live CD and moved them to a burner or over a network to another machine
[11:29] <yatesy> cowsay an figlet rock =)
[11:29] <morph4tqwertqw> ummmm, i dont have a floppy drive.....
[11:29] <od1n> morph: http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/menuitem.3c67e325e0a6b1f6294198b091346068/?channelpath=/en_us/Support/Software%20Downloads/ATA%20Hard%20Drives&downloadID=113
[11:29] <morph4tqwertqw> ok
[11:29] <USCRyan> *question* how do i unzip a tar.bz2 file?
[11:29] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen
[11:29] <greenpenguin13> file roller
[11:29] <djm62> USCRyan: tar -xjvf also works
[11:29] <USCRyan> djm62, thx
[11:30] <topyli> USCRyan: click on it. if you are on console, use "tar xjvf foo.tar.bz2"
[11:30] <topyli> damn i'm slow
[11:30] <jhenn> is dapper safe to upgrade to?
[11:30] <greenpenguin13> depends
[11:30] <topyli> no it's not
[11:30] <greenpenguin13> im running it ok
[11:30] <jhenn> how do i uninstall the old version of cairo themes i installed myself by make install and install the newer ones?
[11:31] <god> I need to install nvidia drivers so I can run opengl.
[11:31] <cdmbhs> question: when i boot using ubuntu live, my computer suddenly restarts during the loading phase, anyone know how i can resolve this problem (fairly new compaq pc)
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> make uninstall
[11:31] <johnsie2k> is dapper gonna be faster than breezy?
[11:31] <god> I have a geforce 4 ...maybe it's a rage
[11:31] <topyli> greenpenguin13: ok, it might be unbroken today and even an upgrade might be ok. you never know tomorrow though :)
[11:31] <djm62> jhenn: it's not safe...it's just not guaranteed to kill your hard drive
[11:31] <johnsie2k> for loading programs
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:31] <Seveas> johnsie2k, yes
[11:31] <johnsie2k> good
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:31] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> woo
[11:31] <topyli> johnsie2k: that depends a lot on gnome development
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> its ok if you have a second os
[11:32] <KmK82> ciao a tutti
[11:32] <greenpenguin13> ive been running it since it came out and its gone down about once a week
[11:32] <morph4tqwertqw> ok thanks guys im gonna try this out and then come back if i have any other problems
[11:32] <morph4tqwertqw> thanks
[11:32] <od1n> k man
[11:32] <Zscach> can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:32] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:33] <topyli> greenpenguin13: not bad if that's not your production machine. they do say it's going to be easier than breezy
[11:33] <topyli> i mean the transition
[11:33] <greenpenguin13> i do have a space os though :)
[11:33] <greenpenguin13> s/space/spare/
[11:34] <god> greenpenguin13:  Is there a way to do it without the CD? I'm not at my house right now and I don't have the CD.
[11:34] <god> greenpenguin13:  I'm actually 12 hours away from my house but I brought my computer and changed the card.
[11:34] <greenpenguin13> is the comptuter on the net?
[11:34] <god> greenpenguin13:  I'm on it.
[11:34] <greenpenguin13> god; what repos u got?
[11:35] <god> greenpenguin13:  Uhmm I have most of them I think. If I'm thinking of the right thing
[11:35] <god> greenpenguin13:  What do I need?
[11:35] <greenpenguin13> god: open firefox, do ubuntu package search for nvidia-glx
[11:36] <greenpenguin13> god: then download the version for ur distro/arch
[11:36] <greenpenguin13> god: and stick it it /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:36] <face2face> Hello guys!
[11:36] <greenpenguin13> god: and then try
[11:37] <face2face> How are you guys doing?
[11:37] <greenpenguin13> im talking to god :-p
[11:37] <od1n> pretty good, how are you?
[11:37] <face2face> ANyway, could any of you help me with something?
[11:37] <face2face> Yeah, I'm "god" ;)
[11:37] <Seveas> !tell face2face about anyone
[11:37] <topyli> is there a way to stop the gnome window list from flashing when something new happens in a window?
[11:38] <Seveas> topyli, click on ir
[11:38] <Seveas> it*
[11:38] <dashinho> Hello... I have a weird problem with Firefox on Kubuntu (not quite sure if this happens on gnome to)... when I try to open a site with flash it freezes, I can't do anything so I have to kill it. I installed the flash plugin for mozilla but that didn't work. It also randomly freezes on any site after like 10 or 20 minutes of working. Any idea of what may be happening here?
[11:39] <topyli> Seveas: sub-optimal when you are clicking on links in liferea or some such, and new tabs are appearing on a minimized firefox window
[11:39] <face2face> Hey, I'm havin problems conecting to MSN protocol with Gaim 2.0 CSV
[11:39] <Kris> hello again
[11:39] <topyli> Seveas: i know a new tab is there, no need to notify me
[11:39] <Kartagis> hi. I have a problem. I opened up Synaptic the other day and marked all upgrades and clicked on Apply. when it all finished, it told me to restart because a kernel upgrade was also performed. I restarted and BAM! Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on an unknown block(0,0). what to do?
[11:39] <Kris> I've edited my sources.list to look exactly like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2325
[11:40] <Kris> redid my dist-upgrade
[11:40] <Kris> and update
[11:40] <Kris> still not able to get into gnome
[11:40] <face2face> I can conencto to other protocol, but not to MSN, any ideas?
[11:40] <sorush20> guys is there a multithread webserver so that I can run more than one download / upload on the same server using ftp?
[11:40] <face2face> It says: "Unable to authenticate: .net Messenger Service
[11:41] <face2face> :(
[11:41] <Kris> how do I fix a borked install of breezy without a CD? >.<
[11:41] <Seveas> sorush20, you are making no sense at all
[11:42] <face2face> ANd am I making any sense ? :P
[11:42] <Kris> I guess I could always go back to hoary :(
[11:42] <od1n> face2face: i get those kinds of errors
[11:42] <djm62> Kris: if you have net access on it, and you've fixed the sources.list file now
[11:42] <sorush20> I'm using gftp I select a number of directories from one folder to upload and some from anther then don;t get uploaded at the same time I have to wait for on job to finish before I can start the other is there an alternative?
[11:42] <od1n> it just seems to happen on msn from time to time
[11:43] <od1n> face2face: even when using messenger on windows
[11:43] <face2face> But, the thing is that, it only happens when I'm using a second user account.
[11:43] <Seveas> sorush20, look at the preferences of gftp :)
[11:43] <djm62> Kris: you might want to apt-get remove the X stuff, then reinstall it
[11:43] <M_Cheevy> heya folks...
[11:43] <slashx1896> hey... can i get active X plug in for... my computer to play some game .. i used wine to isntall and it installed rite.. now it says i need active X
[11:43] <face2face> I mean, in the first account which as sudo ability can connect to MSN always...
[11:43] <djm62> Kris: rather than reinstalling the whole lot
[11:43] <Kris> djm62, how do I remove the X stuff, I mean how do I know which ones are X related?
[11:44] <god> greenpenguin13:  It's not working
[11:44] <od1n> face2face: the mysteries of microsoft... ;-)
[11:44] <face2face> ha ha ha,... yeah... the misteries of M$
[11:44] <djm62> Kris: apt-get remove xserver-xorg and similar stuff
[11:44] <god> greenpenguin13:  I mean, I can't find it
[11:44] <face2face> But.. that's weird!
[11:44] <slashx1896> can.. i?
[11:44] <Kris> is there a full list somewhere?
[11:44] <slashx1896> get active
[11:44] <Kartagis> Kris apt-get depends xserver-xorg I suppose
[11:44] <slashx1896> x
[11:44] <M_Cheevy> Kris: a good start is to go into Synaptic in the section view and deselect the whole KDE, Gnome and X trees..
[11:44] <Kartagis> hi. I have a problem. I opened up Synaptic the other day and marked all upgrades and clicked on Apply. when it all finished, it told me to restart because a kernel upgrade was also performed. I restarted and BAM! Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on an unknown block(0,0). what to do?
[11:44] <od1n> face2face: no other symptoms tho? rest of the network working fine?
[11:45] <Kris> can I go into synaptic from a shell prompt?
[11:45] <face2face> Yeah, the network works fine, odin :)
[11:45] <M_Cheevy> Kris: there are some meta-packages like "kde" "gnome" and "xserver-xorg" and "xserver-utils"
[11:45] <djm62> Kris: you still have no X?
[11:45] <M_Cheevy> Kris: use aptitude instead
[11:45] <face2face> I don't have a firewall.
[11:45] <Kris> yeah, no X
[11:45] <slashx1896> helllo?
[11:45] <M_Cheevy> heya slash, what gives?
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> in firefox's about:config how do you delete an event
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[11:45] <god> someone want to help me with nvidia-glx
[11:45] <god> ?
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> accidentally made one
[11:45] <Kartagis> hello?
[11:46] <corresponder> hi
[11:46] <M_Cheevy> god: there are some very good online documents on getting nvidia setup.. start with the wiki
[11:46] <Papoose> What kernel do i install - linux-386, image-386, image-2.6.12-9-386
[11:46] <slashx1896> is it perl?
[11:46] <Kartagis> hi. I have a problem. I opened up Synaptic the other day and marked all upgrades and clicked on Apply. when it all finished, it told me to restart because a kernel upgrade was also performed. I restarted and BAM! Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on an unknown block(0,0). what to do?
[11:46] <USCRyan> what is a good program i can get from synaptics for filesharing?
[11:46] <face2face> Ah! One difference with my e-mail and the guys who is in the 2nd account is that mine Ends with MSN.com
[11:46] <face2face> and the other ends with @hotmail.com
[11:46] <corresponder> Kartagis: give him a correct root
[11:46] <face2face> though I don't think it actually makes a difference.
[11:46] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:46] <Kartagis> corresponder how?
[11:46] <CaptainMorgan> USCRyan, gftp ?
[11:46] <lucasvo> Seveas: somebody should make a tip for ubotu about firefox upgrade :D
[11:46] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: check your grub/menu.lst or lilo.config
[11:47] <od1n> face2face: no ideas i'm afraid :(
[11:47] <USCRyan> captainmorgan, im new to linux i just wanta program i can download music and videos with =)
[11:47] <face2face> oomm :(
[11:47] <corresponder> with knoppix btw
[11:47] <face2face> Thank you anyway Odin. You tried to help me :)
[11:47] <od1n> no probs
[11:47] <Papoose> What kernel do i install - linux-386, image-386, image-2.6.12-9-386
[11:47] <GTroy> USCRyan: you could use amule
[11:47] <Kris> I don't want to randomly remove packages, I've got no X, so have no gui synaptic thingy and I just want to get X working again >.<
[11:47] <M_Cheevy> USCRyan: windows?
[11:47] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy but this happened only after a kernel upgrade was performed
[11:48] <USCRyan> lol i dont wanna go back to windows
[11:48] <face2face> bye everybody
[11:48] <topyli> USCRyan: i've been using gtk-gnutella and have gotten lots of pr0n and music
[11:48] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: yes, and it might have scootched up the lilo/grub configurations... also check it got the modules for the kernel version
[11:48] <topyli> how do you cances irc messages= :)
[11:48] <topyli> cancel even
[11:48] <USCRyan> topyli, only the old version is on Synaptics, and i cant figure out how to install it from the website
[11:48] <Kartagis> Kris you can find out what's related to X by apt-get depends xserver-xorg
[11:49] <topyli> hm
[11:49] <t4> Papoose: what about 2.6.12-10-686 ?
[11:49] <M_Cheevy> topyli: backspace (assuming you meant cancel for cances)
[11:49] <TTT_Travis> if someone can help me write this please send me a PM:   http://pastebin.com/469468
[11:49] <HapyHippy> lo all, quick question - is there any reason why, when I try to change an icon on my panel I can only choose files from /usr/share/pixmaps - not even subdirectories?
[11:49] <solomon> I seem to have an odd issue that I hope some one knows the way around. I am a first time user of Ubuntu and was never asked to srt a root PW. I did find in the help files how to set the root PW, but none of the apps will accept the password. I can su just fine and it accepts the PW, but not of the administration apps will.... Help...
[11:49] <Papoose> t4 not an option
[11:49] <dooglus> HapyHippy: you can change the directory if you like
[11:49] <Kris> ok Kartagis I'll try that thanks
[11:49] <HapyHippy> I tried dooglus
[11:49] <HapyHippy> but all files are greyed out
[11:49] <Kris> brb gonna  switch the net back to my linux bo
[11:49] <Kris> >.<
[11:49] <od1n> solomon: do sudo su
[11:50] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:50] <M_Cheevy> TTT_Travis: there's a good beginners guide to writing shell scripts on the linux documentation project www.tldp.org
[11:50] <Papoose> t4 what is the diffence between the available kernels?
[11:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: if you're using "browse", then you're browsing for a FOLDER.  select the folder, then you'll see the icons when you stop 'browse'ing
[11:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: I know it sucks, but that's how it works...
[11:50] <HapyHippy> ./slaps himself silly
[11:50] <TTT_Travis> M_Cheevy I'll have a look at that
[11:50] <HapyHippy> nope, that makes perfect sense
[11:50] <topyli> USCRyan: i have 0.95.4 and the latest seems to be 0.96. not so old
[11:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: all in the name of GNOME's usability, I presume...  :)
[11:50] <TTT_Travis> M_Cheevy does what I have posted look like something that would be easy todo?
[11:51] <M_Cheevy> TTT: other good stuff there as well.. check the Guides area
[11:51] <HapyHippy> dooglus: Many thanks, yet again :-)
[11:51] <M_Cheevy> TTT: theoretically, yes
[11:51] <solomon> sudo su will not accept the PW I set for root, though just using su, it accepts the PW...
[11:51] <USCRyan> topyli, i couldnt get it to connect for some reason, did u manualy list servers?
[11:51] <god> Still not working. This is a bunch of bull shit
[11:51] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:51] <Knorrie> Papoose: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-386
[11:51] <Papoose> thank you
[11:51] <od1n> solomon: so can you do administrative tasks?
[11:51] <topyli> USCRyan: no, it Just Works(TM). i just opened the port on my firewall
[11:51] <lucasvo> ubotu newfirefox is please see the wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion These instructions lead you through installing Firefox 1.5 final, but should also work for 1.0.7 or any other version.
[11:51] <lucasvo> !newfirefox
[11:51] <M_Cheevy> solomon: you made the same mistake I did, clear the PW for root using "sudo passwd -d root"  leave it blank... that's what the system assumes it is
[11:51] <ubotflu> lucasvo: What?
[11:52] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, gtk-gnutella loosk cool.... how do you enter a site... ?
[11:52] <lucasvo> ubotflu newfirefox is please see the wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion These instructions lead you through installing Firefox 1.5 final, but should also work for 1.0.7 or any other version.
[11:52] <ubotflu> lucasvo: okay
[11:52] <lucasvo> !newfirefox
[11:52] <M_Cheevy> solomon: also make sure you are a member of the group adm
[11:52] <solomon> Only from shell, none of the apps will accept. Synaptic runs find from shell, but if I use the shortcut in the admin list it says wrong PW
[11:52] <lucasvo> !newfirefox
[11:52] <ubotflu> lucasvo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:52] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy right now I have 2.6.9 Default (and recovery mode), 2.6.12-10-386 (and recovery mode), 2.6.10-5-386 (and recovery mode), 2.6.9 (and recovery mode) now in my grub
[11:52] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: i don't i just enter a search for something and start downloading what people want me to get
[11:52] <dooglus> solomon: sudo wants YOUR password, not ROOT's
[11:52] <M_Cheevy> solomon: yes, I know, that's the behaviour your get if you set a root PW... clear it out.
[11:53] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: ah! all recovery modes....
[11:53] <topyli> ooh! gaim beta released
[11:53] <CaptainMorgan> topyli,  ?
[11:53] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: whoops, my bad.. mis read
[11:53] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, what's that supposed to mean?
[11:53] <solomon> Wait, you're sugesting leaving root with a null PW?
[11:53] <dooglus> solomon: not null, locked.  "sudo passwd -l"
[11:54] <M_Cheevy> Karagis: check the /lib/modules directory and check that it has modules directories for those kernel versions
[11:54] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: i just launch gtk-gnutella and enter something to the "search" box. than i get matches. and start clicking on files that look interesting
[11:54] <solomon> If it's locked, then how dill I, and I alone, access root?
[11:54] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: thought it was null?
[11:54] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, right.. ok, I enter a few things to search... Im getting no hits from any..
[11:54] <M_Cheevy> solomon: you don't.. that's the idea of the first account you setup after root....
[11:54] <dooglus> solomon: "locked" is the default state for the ubuntu root password.  you'll access root using "sudo".  if you want exclusive access, make sure you're the sole member of the 'admin' group.  only 'admin' group members can get root access using sudo (by default)
[11:55] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: if it was null then anyone could become root by running "su".  it wouldn't prompt for a password even.
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, I guess Im asking 'where' is it searching?
[11:55] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: thought the group name was adm, not admin
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> doesn't it need a site ?
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> address..
[11:55] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: did you?
[11:55] <solomon> Ok, I am confused. But I will try it and see if understanding comes...
[11:55] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: perhaps it hasn't connected to a lot of peers yet
[11:55] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: ah... cool...
[11:55] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: isn't it great learning stuff :)
[11:55] <Zscach> COME ON DAMIT
[11:56] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:56] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: to prove it to yourself, run "sudo visudo" and look towards the end.  you'll see "admin" in there.
[11:56] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: no, you don't have to worry about that, it uses the gnutella network and sniffes around to find peers
[11:56] <CaptainMorgan> ah...
[11:56] <CaptainMorgan> seems simple then..
[11:56] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: I had nulled the root pw, but not anymore ;)
[11:56] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: heh.  it's not very same having a null root password :)
[11:56] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: that's why I play with linux, to learn.. it's not something that stays static... constantly changing
[11:57] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: I thought with all the places I couldn't log in as root from it was okay.. can't log in remotely or from the console as root
[11:57] <solomon> Well whatcha know... It's not what I would expect, but it is working as you said. Thank you much :)
[11:57] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, hmm... in settings/network there's no Ip listed..
[11:57] <jahshua> can someone please help me set up an identd server
[11:57] <CaptainMorgan> only port
[11:57] <jahshua> its supposed to be easy
[11:57] <jahshua> i just dont know how
[11:57] <jahshua> ;/
[11:57] <CaptainMorgan> does it need mine?
[11:58] <M_Cheevy> solomon: that's the problem with us old farts who learned unix back in the days when root was god.. now it's the devil incarnate ;)
[11:58] <slavefree> hello
[11:58] <_DEC_> 
[11:58] <soundray> M_Cheevy, root is still god. You just don't want to invoke him too often in case the enemy is listening in.
[11:58] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: it's still not OK - because if I can log into your box remotely as 'M_Cheevy', then type "su" once I'm in, and I'm root...
[11:58] <solomon> LOL. I hear that, M_Cheevy. We always used to joke that root was a security risk and should be removed... Now they took us up on the idea...d'oh..
[11:59] <KrisWood> still no X
[11:59] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: the only thing is to make sure it gets to the network. the port it's listening to is better not be firewalled (if you have a firewall). and the proxy settings should be correct
[11:59] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy: hi again
[11:59] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: gotcha... like I said, nuked it as soon as you mentioned it
[11:59] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: re-hi
[11:59] <KrisWood> I think I saw directions for reinstalling gnome on the ubuntu guide once
[11:59] <KrisWood> I'll try that
[11:59] <slavefree> does anyone know what happened to the freenode channel?
[11:59] <_jason> KrisWood, what have you tried?
[12:00] <CaptainMorgan> apparaently Im tcp firewalled.. how to turn off ? so I can see
[12:00] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[12:00] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: actually in my version of sudoers it's the group 'adm' not 'admin'