[12:21] <bastya_elvtars> hi all
[01:16] <agente87> hello
[01:17] <agente87> hi lucas how do you do?
[01:22] <agente87> does anybody know a modula 2 compiler on ubunt?
[01:25] <agente87> lucasvo: hi
[01:48] <lguerra> Hola
[01:50] <lguerra> alguien me puede colaborar con un problemita que tengo con edubuntu y ltsp?
[01:52] <mhz> lguerra: claro, podrias visitar #edubuntu-es ?
[01:54] <lguerra> es que no he podido hacer que me cargue el sistema X en los clientes, me dice que no tiene permiso para escribir en /var/log
[01:54] <lguerra> y efectivamente no se como hacer para montar la particion virtual en los clientes en rw
[01:54] <lguerra> siempre la carga ro
[01:54] <lguerra> aunque ya cambie el fstab
[01:54] <mhz> lguerra: estas usando edubuntu?
[01:54] <lguerra> en este momento no
[01:55] <lguerra> claro ya voy hacia alla
[01:55] <lguerra> gracias
[01:56] <mhz> lguerra: es que dificilmente sabre como ayudarte si desconozco mayores detalles de que estas usando :)
[01:57] <mhz> no obstante, si /var/log te dice eso, probablemente el usuario que estas usando no posee privilegios suficientes para usar X
[01:57] <lguerra> ya estoy en edubuntu-es
[01:57] <mhz> ah, okis
[01:57] <lguerra> a ver te cuento
[03:06] <MrMazda> is 3.8G / big enuf to install kubuntu and then apt-get install the edu package?
[03:06] <mhz> hmmm, maybe 4.5 GB
[03:07] <MrMazda> ogra: u agree with mhz?
[03:08] <MrMazda> no need for ltsp
[03:10] <mhz> MrMazda: my current / is 5.5 GB, after installing Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu y Edubuntu, I have 1.4 GB free
[03:11] <mhz> MrMazda: then, if only dsktop you need
[03:11] <mhz> maybe 3.8 is enough
[03:11] <mhz> but keep in mind that you'll have less % free in /
[03:12] <MrMazda> wuz almost done setting up kid's machine with edubuntu earlier yesterday, then got free better machine last night
[03:12] <MrMazda> P2-350 -> P3-500
[03:13] <mhz> nice improvement
[03:13] <MrMazda> from clone to Dell
[03:13] <mhz> I am running Celeron 500 MHz laptop
[03:14] <MrMazda> Intel video might be less trouble than the ATI, where consoles always getting corrupted
[03:14] <MrMazda> bad framebuffer
[03:14] <mhz> so I have heard
[03:27] <MrMazda> Nova Scotia?
[03:35] <mhz> Chile
[03:35] <mhz> or is it -3 now? In chile we had a change for summer time
[03:57] <MrMazda> mhz: check headers in your last email
[03:57] <jsgotangco> mhz, no habla espanol
[03:57] <jsgotangco> hehe
[03:57] <mhz> hehe, headers?
[03:58] <mhz> jsgotangco: np, it was a hello world
[03:58] <MrMazda> ya, that stuff that sez wut time u sent it
[03:58] <mhz> there are some spanish speakers (like myself) subscribed to english lists as there were no spanish options :)
[04:00] <mhz> MrMazda: okis
[04:02] <mhz> MrMazda: lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel-e
[04:02] <mhz> sorry
[04:02] <mhz> MrMazda: Date: 	Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:51:28 -0300
[04:02] <mhz> anything wrong there?
[04:02] <MrMazda> I didn't think Chile was so far east
[04:03] <mhz> ohh
[04:03] <mhz> we are
[04:49] <arkan0x> mhz, hay moin configurado , llegar y subir a un hosting >?
[04:49] <mhz> arkan0x: holas
[04:50] <mhz> arkan0x: puedes visitar #edubuntu-es ?
[08:29] <mhz> bye all
[09:16] <lancelot> help
[09:19] <ribbo> Hi lancelot , I'll help, if I can.
[09:22] <platos> hi, i have a question about the new dapper release
[09:23] <platos> i've upgraded from breezy to dapper but now the clients won't load the pxelinux.cfg anymore
[09:23] <platos> the change i've noticed with the breezy boots is that this line: ip=192.168.0.143:0.0.0.0:10.0.0.45:255.255.255.0 is different
[09:24] <platos> it now has 0.0.0.0 , and i'm sure that before that there stood something else
[09:24] <platos> can anyone help me with this?
[09:29] <ribbo> platos: sorry not me, I have not used the dapper release yet. However, have you check dhpd.conf to see if the correct path is given for pxelinux ?
[09:29] <lancelot> anybody here who install edubuntu on vmware machine
[09:29] <platos> hm i'll check
[09:30] <platos> i've installed it on vmware once
[09:30] <platos> it runs pervfect
[09:30] <platos> *perfect
[09:31] <platos> just remember to create an second ethernet device if you want ltsp + internet\
[09:32] <platos> well i think the correct path is used for ltsp
[09:32] <platos> but the 0.0.0.0 is bugging me in the ip line
[09:33] <ribbo> platos: does the thin client display an error message?
[09:34] <platos> ribbo: well ultimately it says that it can't find linux
[09:35] <platos> but that takes like 5 minutes
[09:36] <ribbo> have you checked the obvious things? that the IP address of the server match those in the configuration files, that there is no firewall stopping tftp (if dapper uses tftp)?
[09:37] <platos> well the other machine is plugged in thru an crossover cable, firestarter is not active and the server ip is correct
[09:37] <platos> it worked before i changed the apt sources.list and typed apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:38] <ribbo> bleeding edge stuff, I suppose. I can only suggest that you double check all the configuration files.
[09:39] <ribbo> oh, and make sure that tftp is running (once again if that is what dapper uses to serve the kernel to the thin clients.)
[09:40] <platos> lol i havent checked that
[09:41] <ribbo> brb
[09:43] <platos> tftpd-hpa is running and setup correctly
[10:15] <lancelot> help
[10:23] <lucasvo> hello
[11:13] <platos> hi, i'm back
[11:14] <platos> still have the "Could not find kernel image: linux" error?
[11:14] <platos> eh i still have the "Could not find kernel image: linux" error, and i don't know where to correct this
[11:16] <platos> can someone help me with that?
[11:45] <lucasvo> platos: is tftp working?
[11:47] <platos> yeah tfptd-hpa is started and running
[11:47] <platos> is there any way i could check this?
[11:47] <platos> i am using the dapper release btw
[11:47] <lucasvo> platos: I don't know
[11:47] <lucasvo> ogra: ping!
[11:47] <lucasvo> platos: are you using edubuntu server?
[11:48] <lucasvo> platos: is it loading the 2. time or still the first?
[11:48] <platos> lucasvo: everything worked in breezy, then did a dist-upgrade and then it doesnt works anymore
[11:48] <lucasvo> oh!
[11:48] <platos> i used the edubuntu-server package
[11:49] <lucasvo> you shouldn't do dist-upgrade
[11:49] <lucasvo> rathe du upgrade
[11:49] <platos> eh i changed the repos first
[11:49] <platos> i wanted to use dapper
[11:49] <platos> cause ogra's sound script works in that version
[11:49] <lucasvo> yeah, even if you change it, use upgrade afterward
[11:49] <lucasvo> I updated without using dist-upgrade
[11:49] <platos> eh why is there an dist-upgrade then?
[11:49] <lucasvo> it is not working
[11:50] <lucasvo> platos: is it already loading the 2. kernel?
[11:50] <platos> no it is very slow on finding the configuration from pxelinux.cfg
[11:50] <platos> and ultimately it can't find it and says: "Could not find kernel image: linux"
[11:50] <platos> but i'm ghosting my server back to breezy as we speak
[11:51] <platos> so i'll try an upgrade to dapper the right way this time
[11:51] <lucasvo> platos: is there something like next-server.... in your /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf?
[11:51] <platos> no
[11:51] <platos> i'm using this server only
[11:51] <platos> the thinclient gets an ip-adress
[11:51] <lucasvo> you need to set next-server:SERVERIP;
[11:52] <platos> the server has finished ghosting
[11:52] <platos> could you give me clear directions on how to upgrade?
[11:52] <lucasvo> platos: the way I did: change sources
[11:52] <lucasvo> platos: sudo apt-get update
[11:52] <lucasvo> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:52] <platos> you did this in terminal mode or in graphic mode?
[11:53] <lucasvo> then save the output(all the packages who will be held back)
[11:53] <lucasvo> platos: graphic
[11:53] <lucasvo> platos: I was even working with everything?
[11:53] <lucasvo> sorry, no ?
[11:53] <platos> ok, i'
[11:53] <platos> *i'll try it
[11:54] <lucasvo> platos: there will probably be a whole load of packages being held back
[11:54] <lucasvo> you need to install them afterwards manually
[11:54] <lucasvo> (copy the output of apt) and use apt-get install ____HELDBACK___
[11:55] <platos> well the way i did it was just hitting apt-get upgrade untill everything installed
[11:56] <lucasvo> hm, that didn't work in my case
[12:01] <platos> lucasvo: are you using the thin-client setup as well?
[12:02] <lucasvo> platos: yes
[12:03] <platos> lucasvo: with sound?
[12:03] <lucasvo> platos: not yet
[12:08] <platos> lucasvo: what did you answer at the question if login.defs should be overwritten?
[12:09] <lucasvo> platos: which package?
[12:10] <lucasvo> I think I typed yes
[12:10] <platos> the login package
[12:11] <platos> i'll just overwrite it
[12:13] <lucasvo> you probably won't have customised loginscreen anymore :D
[12:13] <platos> well no, what i do have is the same login screen on ltsp-login as the usual server
[12:13] <platos> that looks a bit cooler than the standard one
[12:14] <lucasvo> platos: in dapper the login screen is even better
[12:14] <platos> on the ltsp-login or at the server?
[12:14] <lucasvo> ltsp
[12:15] <platos> eh in what way? i was using a different login at the breezy release... it looked like the normal edubuntu login
[12:15] <lucasvo> it did?
[12:15] <lucasvo> platos: are you using ubuntu ltsp implementation of ltsp?
[12:16] <platos> i found some archive i had to extract in the chroot to make it look like the normal login
[12:16] <lucasvo> platos: ah, this is the dapper version of login :D
[12:16] <lucasvo> platos: so it won't change much
[12:16] <platos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ <-- i found it at ogra's site
[12:17] <lucasvo> I go no
[12:17] <lucasvo> cu
[12:17] <lucasvo> yeah, this is the dapper version
[12:17] <platos> ok bye
[02:02] <manu_ubu> hello
[02:04] <manu_ubu> I have a question for the edubuntu dapper
[02:04] <manu_ubu> install cd on ppc
[02:04] <manu_ubu> ogra ?
[02:05] <ogra> yup
[02:05] <ogra> hi :)
[02:05] <manu_ubu> you build with ubuntu base ?
[02:05] <manu_ubu> hello
[02:05] <ogra> yup
[02:06] <ogra> underneath the edubuntu-desktop package, the system is identical to ubuntu
[02:06] <ogra> the only changes are in the package selection of -desktop and the artwork
[02:06] <ogra> (and some installer differences)
[02:07] <manu_ubu> ok thank
[02:08] <manu_ubu> other question, the liveCD edubuntu for PPC have size large 710Mo for the CD 
[02:08] <ogra> yes, sadly, you need to use the "overburn" feature :/
[02:09] <ogra> there will be parts dropped from the underlying ubuntu system in the near future, that should gain 13MB for all liveCDs 
[02:09] <manu_ubu> I use DVD-RW for test
[02:09] <ogra> (not only edubuntu)
[02:09] <ogra> we will drop the casper livesystem in favor of some new stuff 
[02:10] <ogra> the bootprocess will completely change for the live CD
[02:10] <ogra> i.e. all languages will be on the CD and you will have a gui based language selection after booting ...
[02:11] <manu_ubu> Ah ok, I see the liveCD x86 the boot is different to Breezy
[02:11] <ogra> yup
[02:11] <ogra> it will change more
[02:12] <ogra> the whole boot, hardware detection and lanuage handling is being reworked
[02:12] <manu_ubu> ok
[02:14] <manu_ubu> thank , I go to job , Bye
[02:14] <ogra> bye :)
[02:30] <lucasvo> hi ogra 
[02:33] <spacey> ogra, no ubuntu express?
[02:33] <ogra> not yet
[02:51] <ogra> spacey, there is not even been an upload to dapper yet
[04:20] <Petaris> Hello
[04:32] <Yagisan> spacey: ping
[04:40] <spacey> Yagisan, pong
[04:41] <Yagisan> spacey: you tried to send me a list the other day, but I fell asleep and couldn't receive it
[04:42] <spacey> :>
[04:42] <spacey> i'll send it again
[04:43] <Yagisan> spacey: btw, did you check out iron chef ?
[04:44] <jsgotangco> iron chef is awesome
[04:44] <jsgotangco> at least its one cooking show i can really enjoy watching
[04:44] <Yagisan> yep, michiba and sakai are the two best chefs
[04:45] <spacey> hehe
[04:45] <spacey> it was damn funny 
[04:45] <spacey> and that american voice over
[04:45] <spacey> almost made me cry
[04:45] <jsgotangco> spacey, you find it funny but its really quite normal with east asian TV
[04:45] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:46] <Yagisan> at least Kaga is still in Japanese
[04:46] <spacey> jsgotangco, the usa voiceover?
[04:46] <jsgotangco> spacey, no the overall concept hehe
[04:46] <spacey> ah ;P
[04:46] <spacey> they sometimes even fake a sort of accent
[04:47] <Yagisan> s/sometimes/always
[04:47] <jsgotangco> but any language used, the thing is that its still so damn funny
[04:47] <spacey> hhehe
[04:47] <spacey> yeah its quite nice
[04:47] <jsgotangco> they were once challenged by the best french cook in tokyo
[04:47] <Yagisan> even the challengers from Europe that a non-native english speakers get dubbed
[04:47] <jsgotangco> yes
[04:47] <Yagisan> s/a/are
[04:48] <spacey> Yagisan, =) even when they speak english?
[04:48] <Yagisan> yes
[04:48] <jsgotangco> the duel gets really hard when they use fish
[04:48] <spacey> thats insane:)
[04:48] <Yagisan> if you listen carefully, you may hear their english in the background
[04:49] <jsgotangco> Yagisan, do you know that videogame in the arcade where you use two huge drums
[04:49] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: not really, I haven't been to an arcade since I met my wife
[04:50] <jsgotangco> Yagisan, anyway it was awesome, some sort of ceremonial drum thing made into a video game like DDRF
[04:50] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:51] <jsgotangco> s/DDRF/DDR
[04:51] <jsgotangco> they even give you a small strip of cloth to tie around your head
[04:52] <Yagisan> taiko drums ?
[04:52] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:52] <jsgotangco> huge badass drums
[05:00] <Yagisan> spacey: that is one big list
[05:04] <spacey> :o)
[05:45] <Yagisan> Goodnight All
[06:56] <mhz> a-865: hey
[06:57] <mhz> neurogeek: hi there, are you available?
[07:15] <neurogeek> mhz_BBS, now i am.. how are you?
[08:45] <jelkner> ogra: oliver!
[08:45] <ogra> yes ?
[08:46] <jelkner> flight-2 is flying
[08:46] <ogra> fine :)
[08:46] <jelkner> but the dhcp server seems not to be working
[08:46] <jelkner> is that intentional?
[08:46] <mhz> jelkner: hi
[08:46] <ogra> it does, pstream sillyness 
[08:46] <ogra> *upstream
[08:46] <jelkner> mhz: mauricio, cool, i wanted to ask you something...
[08:46] <mhz> jelkner: me too
[08:46] <mhz> :)
[08:47] <jelkner> ahh (he says, not having *any* idea what psteam silliness is ;-)
[08:47] <jelkner> am i done testing?
[08:47] <ogra> they decided to introduce a change that breaks all ltsp setups with a minor upgrade ... while i would expect such in a major version change, they dont seem to care about users
[08:47] <jelkner> it installs
[08:47] <ogra> all ltsp setups in this case means *really all* not only ubuntu
[08:48] <jelkner> should i try anything else or await further instructions from you
[08:48] <jelkner> ?
[08:48] <mhz> oh, we may have 'EduCrash"
[08:48] <mhz> :)
[08:48] <ogra> you can just add the netx-server directive to /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[08:48] <ogra> *next-server
[08:48] <jelkner> do you want me to do that, or just wait to test again?
[08:49] <ogra>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[08:49] <ogra>   next-server 192.168.100.32;
[08:49] <ogra>   filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";
[08:49] <ogra>   option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
[08:49] <ogra> thats how mine looks like ...
[08:49] <jelkner> ogra: does this mean you *want* me to test this?
[08:49] <ogra> use your server ip in the next-server field ...
[08:50] <ogra> if you want to test ltsp ...
[08:50] <jelkner> will that help you?
[08:50] <jelkner> i don't need the machine to work
[08:50] <jelkner> i'm only installing to test
[08:50] <jelkner> i'll do whatever will help you
[08:50] <jelkner> if you already know it is broke
[08:50] <ogra> i know ltsp works for me... in case you want to test it, you need to add the line like above ...
[08:50] <ogra> then dhcpd will work fine again
[08:51] <jelkner> once again, will that give you any information that will be helpful to you?
[08:51] <ogra> hmm ...
[08:51] <ogra> if it wouldnt work, that might give me more info ...
[08:51] <jelkner> ok, i'll try
[08:51] <ogra> but its not  an obligatory test
[08:51] <jelkner> if it works, we are finished until the next time
[08:52] <ogra> yup
[08:52] <ogra> you might see errors i dont experience here ...
[08:52] <ogra> tat would be an intresting part ...
[08:52] <littlepaul> ogra, what is the reason for implementing the next-server option in the dhcpd?
[08:52] <ogra> note that the bootprocess didnt change much yet, i'll do some changes next week
[08:53] <ogra> rfc compliance (in the opinion of the dhcp developers)
[08:54] <ogra> while i think they *might* be right, its vey odd to introduce such a breaking change in an update from 3.0.2 to 3.0.3
[08:54] <ogra> since nobody would expect his config to break in a minor version update ...
[08:55] <littlepaul> ...
[08:55] <ogra> if it is from 3.0.2 to 4.0.0, i'd expect breakage ...
[08:55] <ogra> but thats just evil and ignorant to the users ...
[08:55] <ogra> i'm considering to revert it for the time being ...
[08:55] <ogra> or at least add a default ....
[08:56] <ogra> since currently the next-server value doesnt point to the bootserver anymore, but gets zeroed out (0.0.0.0) which breaks all nfs boots that relie on this behavior
[08:57] <littlepaul> reverting would be maby even so confusing
[08:57] <ogra> *rely
[08:57] <ogra> yes
[08:57] <littlepaul> could you write a short note in the wiki?
[08:57] <ogra> the idea is something like "next-server my-own-ip" as a default setting in the config ...
[08:58] <ogra> if this is set is will behave like before ...
[08:58] <ogra> i'll add a note if a decision was made 
[08:58] <littlepaul> flight2 contained 3.0.2 or 3.0.3?
[08:58] <neurogeek> mhz, ping
[08:58] <ogra> dapper contains 3.0.3
[08:59] <ogra> but we still discuss what to do ...
[08:59] <mhz> neurogeek: pong
[08:59] <neurogeek> mhz, hiow are you?? where you looking for me??
[09:00] <mhz> neurogeek: some days ago, oliver and jerome mentioned that we may have MoinMoin wiki ready for schools environments if Moin had a GUI to its settings
[09:01] <ogra> no necessarily a gui, but an easy setup procedure
[09:01] <neurogeek> really?? I could help with that
[09:01] <ogra> s/no/not/
[09:01] <neurogeek> I just made an installer for Cuaima, based on dialog+python
[09:01] <mhz> neurogeek: hehehe, that was my idea
[09:01] <mhz> :)
[09:01] <neurogeek> :D
[09:01] <neurogeek> Nice
[09:01] <ogra> currently i wouldnt want to give moin to  ateacher to set it up
[09:02] <mhz> I immediately remember the Venezuelan power!
[09:02] <mhz> neurogeek: and ogra has a nice point there
[09:02] <neurogeek> LOL
[09:03] <mhz> a 'regular' teacher would kick my chilean butt if i present him with a wikiconfig.py he has to edit manually :)
[09:03] <neurogeek> ok.. i will work it out.. Graphical or Curses Based?? i guess Graphical, right?
[09:03] <mhz> ogra? suggestion to neurogeek ?
[09:03] <ogra> as you like
[09:03] <neurogeek> We could do both.. Im not really into MoinMoin's code.. but i can try it out.. and if you guys help.. the best
[09:04] <ogra> even html like mediawiki does would be fine ...
[09:04] <neurogeek> Ok.. 
[09:04] <ogra> the important part is, that it does not break existing configs 
[09:04] <mhz> neurogeek: my best suggestion is you get into #moin and tell them you want to code a KISS moin installer
[09:04] <ogra> i.e. on upgrades
[09:05] <neurogeek> I'll be on it tonight...
[09:05] <neurogeek> ogra, Ok.. 
[09:05] <mhz> neurogeek: BTW, we have edubuntu-devel-es ML !! :)
[09:05] <neurogeek> Thats Great!
[09:06] <mhz> neurogeek: i have some ideas on what are the leves of complexity regarding moin installation
[09:06] <mhz> so whatever you need, please ask and I'll be VERY happy to help too
[09:06] <neurogeek> Excellent.. 
[09:06] <mhz> - t
[09:07] <neurogeek> I will check on Moin's Installation and do something good with it.. though im no artist at all.. so i wouldn't expect nice icons or pics :D
[09:07] <mhz> neurogeek: so can I tell Moin devel guys you'll have your hands on it?
[09:07] <neurogeek> Yeah!
[09:07] <mhz> neurogeek: I can help with iconinig
[09:07] <mhz> or stuff
[09:07] <mhz> and also with docing help for it
[09:08] <neurogeek> Excellent.. because last time i tried to do an icon.. it looked like a completely different thing from the one in my thoughts :D
[09:08] <mhz> neurogeek: muchisimas gracias! no sabes lo que significa ese instalador para mi.
[09:08] <mhz> lol
[09:08] <mhz> neurogeek: that happens
[09:08] <neurogeek> mhz, no te preocupes.. estoy feliz de poder ayudar!!
[09:08] <neurogeek> Jejeje
[09:09] <jelkner> ogra: dhcp3 is still not starting
[09:09] <jelkner> i added:  next-server 192.168.0.254
[09:10] <ogra> thats your local IP ?
[09:10] <jelkner> /etc/init.d/dhcp3/restart failed
[09:10] <jelkner> yes
[09:10] <ogra> and the interface is up too ? 
[09:10] <jelkner> yes, i'm ssh'd in
[09:10] <jelkner> so it must be ;-)
[09:10] <mhz> neurogeek: i have just mentioned your name in the hall of fame of moin developers :D
[09:11] <ogra> can you paste the dhcp related part of /var/log/daemon.log to pastebin ? 
[09:11] <jelkner> pastbin?
[09:12] <ogra> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:12] <ogra> there must be a few lines saying whats wrong
[09:12] <jelkner> hold on, i'm missing a semicolon
[09:12] <ogra> ah :)
[09:12] <ogra> i made the same mistake last week :)
[09:13] <neurogeek> mhz, great!! .. going to work hard on that!!
[09:13] <mhz> thx a lot
[09:13] <jelkner> and it worked!
[09:13] <ogra> :)
[09:13] <jelkner> now let me boot a client
[09:13] <mhz> and toes :)
[09:16] <jelkner> ogra: it doesn't work
[09:16] <jelkner> so i actually did something useful ;-)
[09:16] <jelkner> it partially works
[09:16] <jelkner> it gets a kernel
[09:16] <ogra> where does it hang ? 
[09:16] <ogra> ok
[09:16] <jelkner> hold on...
[09:16] <ogra> did it drop you to a busybox shell ? 
[09:16] <jelkner> mout: I/O error
[09:17] <ogra> try a second time ...
[09:17] <jelkner> short read: 0 < 28
[09:17] <jelkner> ok
[09:17] <ogra> without touching the server please 
[09:17] <ogra> i bet its a nfs timeout ...
[09:17] <ogra> that goes away on second boot
[09:19] <jelkner> yup, it worked!
[09:19] <ogra> oki, its still the same error we had in breezy ...
[09:19] <jelkner> yup
[09:20] <jelkner> so we know we still have it
[09:20] <ogra> we just had worked around it there with a 3 second sleep before mounting ...
[09:20] <ogra> but thats not really acceptable ..
[09:20] <ogra> ok, i know where to look, thanks a lot ...
[09:20] <jelkner> sure, let me know when to test more
[09:20] <ogra> does the themed ldm look ok for you ? 
[09:20] <jelkner> great!
[09:21] <ogra> oki
[09:21] <jelkner> question: will folks be able to choose languages?
[09:21] <ogra> i dumbed it down a bit for now ... the menus are optional at the moment ...
[09:21] <jelkner> that is turning out to be really important
[09:21] <jelkner> ok, so we will have that back by dapper, yes?
[09:22] <jelkner> besides, languages don't work now, right
[09:22] <jelkner> the bug you told us about
[09:22] <ogra> only if i find the time to get it working ... or someone sends a sane patch i can apply 
[09:22] <jelkner> so we should be choosing them anyway
[09:22] <jelkner> ogra: you are overworked!
[09:22] <ogra> currently my focus is on the specs that are in the work... then the local devices ... 
[09:23] <jelkner> cool
[09:23] <ogra> if we still have time after that, i'll look into it ... i have to set priorities
[09:23] <jelkner> well, let me know when to test again
[09:23] <ogra> yup
[09:23] <jelkner> definitely
[09:23] <ogra> i'll get to the ppc breakage next ... 
[09:23] <jelkner> thanks!
[09:24] <jelkner> mhz: do you have a moment?
[09:24] <mhz> shoot
[09:24] <mhz> (i dont have a moment but if not now... when?) :D
[09:27] <jelkner> mhz: are you going to be around for a bit?
[09:27] <jelkner> some students just walked in wishing to learn python
[09:27] <jelkner> i need to teach...
[09:27] <lucasvo> hi jelkner 
[09:27] <mhz> sure
[09:27] <mhz> this my 2nd house, jelkner 
[09:27] <jelkner> ok, bb in about 45 minutes
[09:27] <jelkner> lol
[09:27] <mhz> see ya
[09:28] <mhz> jelkner: if not here, i'll be back soon
[09:31] <lucasvo> jelkner: what are you(as a teacher) using PC in classes for?
[09:56] <mhz_ODP> ogra: where is your last talk about edubuntu in the wiki?
[09:56] <ogra> there is no wikipage ...
[09:56] <mhz_ODP> iirc you had some screenshots of edubuntu apps
[09:56] <ogra> only two pdf's
[09:56] <mhz_ODP> ahh
[09:56] <mhz_ODP> booh
[09:56] <ogra> the screenshots are ripped off the edubuntu tour page 
[09:57] <mhz_ODP> okis
[09:57] <mhz_ODP> thx
[10:40] <AvantGarde> Hi, can someone help me with LDAP on EDUBUNTU?
[10:46] <lucasvo> AvantGarde: sure
[10:46] <lucasvo> AvantGarde: just ask a question
[11:14] <pablo--mvd> hi! how do i configure xserver from comand line?
[11:19] <jelkner> anyone know how to reach mhz ?
[11:19] <jelkner> mhz_ODP: is this you, mauricio?
[11:21] <jelkner> anyone here?
[11:22] <jelkner> seeing no one, i'll head out to dinner...
[11:22] <jelkner> mhz: i'll catch you tomorrow...
[11:24] <agente87> hi 
[11:24] <agente87> lucasvo how do you do?
[11:26] <lucasvo> agente87: good, and you?
[11:27] <agente87> fine, my classroom is improving
[11:28] <agente87> i'm using samba to share a folder
[11:28] <agente87> edubuntu doesn't have moodle installed?
[11:31] <lucasvo> agente87: not at the moment, it is too buggy
[11:31] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~$ apt-cache search moodle
[11:31] <lucasvo> moodle - Course Management System for Online Learning
[11:31] <lucasvo> agente87: it even has one
[11:31] <lucasvo> it is in dapper at least
[11:35] <agente87> i'm installing it, how can i access?
[11:35] <lucasvo> agente87: I don't know
[11:36] <agente87> thanks lucas
[11:41] <lucasvo> agente87: is it working?
[11:55] <agente87> not now
[11:55] <agente87> i'm trying
[11:55] <agente87> i will install moodle in my school
[11:58] <mhz> moodle is good