[12:03] <djk_> Hobbsee_away: and that's a bad thing?
[12:04] <emptystapler> troy: where are those located? the link on the FAQ doesn't point directly there
[12:04] <Hobbsee_away> djk_: well, depends if you want it to or not
[12:04] <Hobbsee_away> hyperactivecrond: you want to get rid of all of gnome?
[12:04] <hyperactivecrond> yess
[12:04] <crimsun> Hobbsee_away: irssi-text?
[12:04] <Hobbsee_away> there's a howto on ubuntuforums - howto section, on getting rid of gnome - use that
[12:04] <Hobbsee_away> crimsun: that's the one
[12:05] <hyperactivecrond> !removegnome
[12:05] <ubotflu> hyperactivecrond: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:05] <troy> emptystapler: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:05] <emptystapler> those are the ATI drivers?
[12:05] <troy> emptystapler: yes
[12:05] <emptystapler> will i need to modify my xorg config?
[12:06] <troy> emptystapler: yes you will -- simply replace 'vesa' with 'fglrx' in the driver section -- it'll 'Just Work (TM)'
[12:06] <emptystapler> troy: funtastic!
[12:06] <Ahmuck> i would like to strip kubuntu down and have three main packages ... web server, etc. is this easy to do ?
[12:06] <emptystapler> one more quick question: how the heck can i make middle-click close tabs in conquerer?
[12:07] <emptystapler> Konqueror, even
[12:07] <Ahmuck> konqueror
[12:07] <Ahmuck> :-)
[12:07] <hyperactivecrond> Ahmuck: good luck
[12:08] <Ahmuck> hyperactivecrond: why
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> !removegnome
[12:08] <Ahmuck> not a good thing to do ?
[12:08] <ubotflu> Hobbsee_away: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> stupid bot...
[12:08] <hyperactivecrond> Hobbsee_away, !removegnome is blahblahblah
[12:08] <hyperactivecrond> do that
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> already done it...
[12:09] <hyperactivecrond> did he say 'ok' ?
[12:09] <hyperactivecrond> !removegnome
[12:09] <ubotflu> hyperactivecrond: Wish i knew
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> yes
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> it's just not being updated properly
[12:09] <hyperactivecrond> the bot has the flu tho..
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96046
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> anyway, there
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> ubotu: removegnome is  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96046
[12:10] <troy> emptystapler: if you want the fglrx control module (once you have the driver up and running), get the 'fglrx-control' package too -- it lets you do all the graphics card settings changes and such that you'd expect
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> !removegnome is  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96046
[12:10] <ubotflu> hyperactivecrond: okay
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> !removegnome
[12:10] <ubotflu> hyperactivecrond: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> :
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> :\ pfft
[12:10] <Hobbsee_away> weird...
[12:10] <Hobbsee_away> anyway, i'm going to get breakfast
[12:10] <hyperactivecrond> bye Hobbsee_away
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> i'll be back...
[12:11] <emptystapler> troy: my xorg.conf driver is currently "ati"... this is what I'll be changing to fglrx, correct?
[12:12] <M_Cheevy> quick question, seems I'm having some permission problems on the /tmp/ area... when I try and run superkaramba it gripes about uids and permissions.. I thought /tmp was generated dynamically, where do I set the uid's and permissions for /tmp?  /dev/fstab?
[12:13] <Ahmuck> so does kde have a distro that is pure kde ?
[12:13] <callie> kde is not a distro
[12:13] <callie> but Kubuntu is the KDE flavour of Ubuntu
[12:14] <emptystapler> Can anybody confirm this is what I need to do? I want to use ATI's proprietary drivers, so from what I can see I need to change my driver in xorg.conf from 'ati' to 'fglrx'
[12:14] <M_Cheevy> callie: and the new version of kde (3.5) is nice!
[12:15] <callie> i know M_Cheevy im using it :P
[12:15] <dclindsay> only problem i had was known konq-plugins bug
[12:16] <M_Cheevy> callie: ditto here, went in pretty smooth except for that nagging permissions problem
[12:16] <callie> M_Cheevy: huh?
[12:16] <dclindsay> transparency on the taskbar is nice
[12:16] <callie> i think you meant dclindsay
[12:16] <M_Cheevy> callie: with superkaramba (see above)
[12:17] <Armagguedes> hello
[12:17] <callie> M_Cheevy: you appear to be associating me with a conversation that i was not involved in
[12:17] <callie> therfore it makes no sense
[12:17] <Armagguedes> sudo chmod -R 777 /home/share/ --> why is this not working (and the konsole returns no errors)=
[12:18] <M_Cheevy> callie: sorry, I was saying the kde3.5 install went smoothly except for the permissions problem... you said you were running kde 3.5?
[12:18] <dclindsay> no, that was me
[12:19] <callie> anyway, yeah KDE 3.5 is nice
[12:19] <callie> ;)
[12:19] <M_Cheevy> dlcindsay: d'oh... sorry callie
[12:19] <M_Cheevy> er dclindsay that is
[12:19] <dclindsay> only had to do a little juju on a known bug, is what i had to report
[12:20] <jahshua> i have a problem :/
[12:20] <jahshua> when i type who in shell it shows two of me
[12:20] <crimsun> why is that a problem?
[12:20] <jahshua> i dunno
[12:21] <jahshua> im only logged on once ?
[12:21] <crimsun> do you have a Konsole open?
[12:21] <jahshua> yes only one
[12:21] <crimsun> then that's why.
[12:21] <callie> lol
[12:21] <Steven_M> hi all
[12:21] <jahshua> ?
[12:21] <crimsun> You logged in through kdm, remember?
[12:21] <jahshua> right
[12:21] <crimsun> that counts as one login.
[12:21] <M_Cheevy> and the console counts as another
[12:22] <jahshua> if i exit it though and go back in and dont login
[12:22] <callie> i have two konsoles open an still only one presence
[12:22] <jahshua> its says the same
[12:22] <emptystapler> okay, I still can't load the Disk & Filesystem settings module. it just says "The module Disk & Filesystems could not be loaded"
[12:23] <Armagguedes> sudo chmod -R 777 /home/share/ --> why is this not working (and the konsole returns no errors)?
[12:23] <callie> paste your output jahshua
[12:23] <M_Cheevy> konsole ain't console.... d'oh
[12:23] <crimsun> jahshua: exit what? go back in what? don't log in where?
[12:23] <jahshua> console
[12:23] <jahshua> to sudo
[12:23] <jahshua> oh i dont know
[12:23] <crimsun> Konsole or console (ctrl+alt+F*)
[12:23] <jahshua> im all confused
[12:23] <jahshua> heh
[12:24] <jahshua> konsole
[12:24] <emptystapler> System Services does the same thing
[12:24] <crimsun> if you log in through kdm, that's 1 login
[12:24] <crimsun> for each Konsole you open, that's 1 login
[12:25] <callie> not here it isnt
[12:25] <emptystapler> uh, and Users & Groups
[12:25] <Hobbsee> all right, i'm back :)
[12:25] <callie> damn
[12:25] <callie> i mean  yay!
[12:25] <M_Cheevy> btw, that d'oh was to myself....
[12:25] <emptystapler> Hobbsee: I updated all my packages, and still can't get into the following settings panels: Disk & Filesystems, System Services, or Users & Groups
[12:25] <Hobbsee> hehe callie
[12:26] <Steven_M> does  anyone here know about the update that fixes the administrator mode from braking?
[12:26] <callie> sorry the damn key and the yay key are very close to each other
[12:27] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:28] <emptystapler> I wonder if Breezy has all of these problems
[12:29] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: file a bug about it
[12:29] <Steven_M> I have questions about it.
[12:29] <emptystapler> I don't mind filing bugs, but when the bugs are things that prevent me from even using the basic system efficiently... it's easier just to boot back into windows :)
[12:30] <emptystapler> if there are workaround i'd like to find them
[12:30] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: why did you get dapper flight 2 in teh first place?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> why not breezy?
[12:30] <callie> emptystapler: install windows :P
[12:30] <emptystapler> no particular reason
[12:31] <emptystapler> do you think these issues are related to dapper-specific configuration changes, or KDE 3.5?
[12:31] <jahshua> yone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[12:32] <emptystapler> I am afraid of grabbing/trying Breezy, upgrading to KDE 3.5, and ending up right where I am now
[12:32] <emptystapler> (Locked up at the Printer Settings module as its been "Initializing manager..." for the past 5 minutes)
[12:33] <Steven_M> where do I go on the kubuntu site to read about bug fixes?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> !bug
[12:34] <ubotflu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[12:34] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: you'll have almost no problems with breezy, then updating to kde .35
[12:34] <Hobbsee> *3.5
[12:34] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: dapper is a development release - it's intended to break, it's not stable
[12:36] <Steven_M> I want to read bug fixes, not file them
[12:37] <emptystapler> Hobbsee: I'll grab an ISO and give it a whirl :)
[12:37] <emptystapler> I do appreciate all your guys' help and patience
[12:37] <Hobbsee> good idea
[12:37] <Hobbsee> Steven_M: usually they're with the bugs
[12:37] <Hobbsee> unless you're meaning changelogs for files...
[12:38] <emptystapler> I'll be back a little later, i'm sure. see you then!
[12:40] <jahshua> anyone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[12:45] <HolySavior> does anyone know why my totem player wont work at all? when i try to run it  i get this message, "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector."
[12:47] <cwheeler> hi, where do i get packages for kubuntu?
[12:47] <crimsun> cwheeler: through Adept
[12:48] <Armagguedes> in KDE how can i set files to open on doubleclick and select on singleclick (currently being opened by 1click, url-style)
[12:48] <callie> i've never got on with totem
[12:48] <cwheeler> thanks
[12:49] <Hobbsee> Armagguedes: kcontrol...
[12:49] <Armagguedes> ok tks
[12:49] <Hobbsee> peripherals, mouse
[12:49] <Hobbsee> double click to open folders
[12:50] <Hobbsee> cwheeler: packages.ubuntu.com?
[12:50] <Hobbsee> adept?
[12:50] <Armagguedes> btw, in v3.5 is that network bug corrected (eth1 not staying enabled)
[12:51] <Hobbsee> HolySavior: i think that arts only lets you use one lot of sound at a time
[12:51] <Hobbsee> crimsun: will have more information on how to change that
[12:51] <jahshua> anyone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[12:52] <cwheeler> i'm looking at adept
[12:52] <HolySavior> Hobbsee im not running any sound or movie thing though and i get that message
[12:52] <Hobbsee> knotify, probably...
[12:53] <dclindsay> where is the theme selector in kde 3.4-3.5? i see 'styles' in the control center but not 'themes'
[12:54] <sander_> dclindsay: Try searching at the top.
[12:55] <dclindsay> i see now
[12:55] <dclindsay> it's missing from the 'system settings' menu item, which is what i typically use
[12:56] <dclindsay> but it is present in the settings sidemenu
[12:56] <slow-motion> n8
[12:56] <chopemax> hi, im trying to replace spaces with backslashes+spaces, i tried with sed 's/ /\\ /g' but the backslash doesn't appear, do you know what i am doing wrong?
[12:57] <cwheeler> chopemax try "\\\"
[12:57] <cwheeler> one \ gets taken off by the shell
[12:58] <chopemax> cwheeler: that worked! thanks
[12:59] <cwheeler> yw :)
[01:03] <jahshua> anyone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[01:03] <jahshua> anyone  ??
[01:03] <Hobbsee> jahshua: no idea, sorry
[01:05] <Macke> does anyone know if a downloaded Cedega will work?? i want to try before i buy
[01:05] <chopemax> cwheeler: maybe you also know this one, how can i read a variable from inside the sed parameters? (i tried sed 's/${value}/\\\${value}/g' but it didnt work)
[01:08] <cwheeler> I don't know that chopemax , I usually use perl
[01:09] <dsm> ahhhhhhhh much better
[01:09] <dsm> got my wireless to work
[01:10] <chopemax> cwheeler: don't worry, some googleing solved it, it was sed 's/'$value'/...
[01:10] <chopemax> cwheeler: thanks anyways
[01:10] <cwheeler> yw
[01:13] <DsM> does anyone know where i can get a theme for konversation that has a black background?
[01:13] <cwheeler> i'm having trouble linking frames in openoffice.org writer, anyone know about writer?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> cwheeler: #openoffice
[01:22] <Hobbsee> cwheeler: #openoffice.org
[01:22] <Hobbsee> i mean
[01:32] <yonkeltron> anyone know if the linksys 802.11g pci card is supported?
[01:33] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[01:33] <ubotflu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:33] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[01:33] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:33] <Hobbsee> that's the one i wanted
[01:34] <yonkeltron> thanx!
[01:34] <sambagirl> is there a way to see what command you typed in root that caused you to crash?
[01:34] <hyperactivecrond> what does one apt-get install for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[01:34] <sambagirl> is there a way to see what command you typed in root that caused you to crash?
[01:35] <sambagirl> is there like root command logs?
[01:35] <crimsun> hyperactivecrond: search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <Serberus> sambagirl: pushing up while in the console as root doesn't show your command history?
[01:35] <hyperactivecrond> thx crimsun
[01:35] <sambagirl> whta do you mean serberus
[01:35] <Hobbsee> hit the up key...
[01:35] <Serberus> su to root, then push the up arrow key or type "history"
[01:35] <sambagirl> i rebooted already
[01:36] <Serberus> yeah your history should be saved
[01:36] <sambagirl> it made things do on my screen
[01:36] <Serberus> possibly, depends on the crash
[01:36] <sambagirl> how do i find the history?
[01:36] <sambagirl> i typed something liek this
[01:36] <sambagirl> cat /dev/somethigh/something/mem
[01:36] <sambagirl> and woosh
[01:36] <Serberus> change to root (su root), enter your root password, then type "history"
[01:37] <Serberus> cat shouldn't have crashed your machine, just echo'ed the contents of the file to your screen
[01:37] <sambagirl> ahh it was nothing but what you see if your watching tv and it goes off.
[01:38] <Serberus> you might have trouble su'ing to root, might have to enable that account and "sudo passwd root" to set a password to run as root
[01:38] <Serberus> ok :S
[01:38] <sambagirl> i dont see it
[01:38] <Serberus> are you in Konsole?
[01:39] <sambagirl> root terminal
[01:39] <sambagirl> not konsole
[01:39] <Serberus> if you type whoami what does it say?
[01:39] <sambagirl> but root termnial
[01:39] <sambagirl> it says root
[01:39] <Serberus> ok
[01:39] <hyperactivecrond> i can't find it...
[01:39] <Serberus> now type "history"
[01:40] <Serberus> it'll show you your previous commands
[01:40] <sambagirl> but i did this and it is not there
[01:40] <Serberus> you sure you ran your previous command as root?
[01:41] <sambagirl> i am positive it did
[01:41] <sambagirl> i had to of i think?
[01:41] <sambagirl> it was something like cat /dev/something/something/mem
[01:41] <sambagirl> and it does things to the screen and the mouse freeze and i had to restart computer.
[01:42] <Serberus> if there's many lines in your history you can try "history | grep cat"
[01:42] <sambagirl> ok brb
[01:42] <emptystapler> Okay, I'm running a fresh Breezy install. I updated all my packages. Kate does not work. kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[01:42] <sambagirl> that does nothing
[01:42] <Serberus> sounds like you never ran cat as root then
[01:43] <sambagirl> well is there another way i do it then?
[01:43] <hyperactivecrond> sudo history | grep ?
[01:43] <Serberus> check the history on your own user
[01:43] <sambagirl> how?
[01:44] <Serberus> you had to set up another user during installation? that should be the primary user you run under, not root
[01:44] <sambagirl> yes jazzy
[01:44] <Serberus> open up a Konsole session, not a root terminal, and run the same history command
[01:45] <sambagirl> you mean terminal
[01:45] <Serberus> yeah, so long as you get "jazzy" when you type whoami
[01:45] <Serberus> if not "su jazzy"
[01:46] <sambagirl> ok
[01:46] <sambagirl> ok i just do history for jazzy typing jazzy and she has done thing
[01:46] <sambagirl> nothing
[01:46] <sambagirl> oh well
[01:47] <Serberus> looks like it wasn't recorded or it was run as another user
[01:47] <sambagirl> umm
[01:47] <sambagirl> what a command :)
[01:47] <sambagirl> i need to learn that ome
[01:47] <Serberus> dunno, sounds like you need to avoid it
[01:47] <Serberus> if it's crashing your system
[01:47] <emptystapler> Does anybody have any idea why Kate doesn't work? Launching from menu, it just doesn't start... and from the console just gives me that generic error
[01:47] <sambagirl> it was somehting someone has on the signoff when they leave irc you know?
[01:47] <sambagirl> the little message thing?
[01:48] <sambagirl> i was curious and typed it in.
[01:48] <sambagirl> haha
[01:48] <Serberus> :S
[01:49] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: use kwrite instead :P
[01:49] <emptystapler> Hobbsee: if I invoke it with kdesu, it works
[01:49] <emptystapler> but I can't run it using sudo or any other way
[01:49] <Hobbsee> true
[01:49] <Hobbsee> !kdesu
[01:49] <ubotflu> rumour has it, kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[01:49] <emptystapler> hrm
[01:49] <Hobbsee> that's probably why kate doesnt work - if you've run it with sudo
[01:50] <seth_k|lappy> if you've run a KDE app with sudo, you need to run kdebuildsycoca to fix up things methinks
[01:50] <emptystapler> I tried that at first, yes
[01:50] <emptystapler> does that mean I somehow borked the config file?
[01:50] <chx> hm, new kopete fixed lots o' VERY annoying bugs
[01:50] <Hobbsee> chx: it did!
[01:50] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: command not found
[01:51] <sambagirl> boy i wish i could recall this command
[01:51] <emptystapler> Hobbsee: by the way, all my control panel issues went away with Breezy
[01:51] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, oops... kbuildsycoca
[01:51] <Hobbsee> oh good!
[01:51] <emptystapler> what is the proper procedure to upgrade to KDE3.5?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[01:52] <ubotflu> methinks kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:52] <Hobbsee> that one
[01:52] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: ah, that works much better
[01:52] <emptystapler> excellent!
[01:52] <Tm_T> huh, something fishy is going on my desktop: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_098.png
[01:52] <Tm_T> +c ?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> +c?
[01:53] <Tm_T> ignore ;)
[01:53] <chx> but KATE still can't see through line endings with regexps.
[01:53] <chx> :(
[01:53] <Hobbsee> where's +c?
[01:54] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I was trying to correct my mistype from above
[01:54] <Hobbsee> ah ok...
[01:54] <seth_k|lappy> whoaaa... Kopete is actually *usable* now?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> hehe yes it is seth_k|lappy
[01:55] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: it's been usable here for ages
[01:55] <Hobbsee> it's still got some bugs, but it's mostly ok
[01:56] <Tm_T> what version you're talking about?
[01:56] <Hobbsee> 0.11
[01:56] <chx> oh it was usable but in the recent months it was usable for MSN only :(
[01:56] <Tm_T> ?
[01:56] <chx> AIM and ICQ and Y! support ... hm... was not great.
[01:56] <Tm_T> heh
[01:56] <Tm_T> my 0.11.50 is just... best <3
[01:57] <seth_k|lappy> oy
[01:57] <seth_k|lappy> new theme
[01:57] <chx> already 0.11.50?? I only have 0.11 and dist-upgraded like an hour ago to KDE 3.5
[01:57] <seth_k|lappy> poking time
[01:57] <Tm_T> chx: hrm, devel stuff ;)
[01:58] <chx> anyone using Skype?
[01:58] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: new theme? where?
[01:58] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: where's that?  in cvs?
[01:58] <chx> if so, how could I disable to fucking irritating flashing exclamation mark if someone chats me?
[01:58] <Hobbsee> !coc
[01:58] <ubotflu> rumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[01:58] <Hobbsee> language
[01:58] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: http://kopete.kde.org/svnaccess.php
[01:58] <emptystapler> I added that 3.5 repository to Adept, but can't seem to find where to actually update KDE
[01:58] <chx> I apologize
[01:58] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: 0.12 branch
[01:59] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, the new Kopete style for conversations
[01:59] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: where
[01:59] <seth_k|lappy> Configure > Appearance > Chat Window > Kopete
[01:59] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: 0.12 has atleast one theme from me ;)
[01:59] <seth_k|lappy> the previous one is now called Kopete-old
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: mmm...looks interesting...
[01:59] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, nice quote you have on the AmaroK website
[01:59] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: that's not new =)
[01:59] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: I'm not!
[02:00] <Tm_T> ;)
[02:00] <emptystapler> Hobbsee: Once I've added that 3.5 repository, what do I actually do to update? Adept reports nothing upgradeable
[02:00] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, yeah it's new... it wasn't in .10?
[02:00] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, reload your repository info
[02:00] <sambagirl> one of my favorite sites is demoscene.tv and it has wonderful vidoes but i canont see them on kubuntu. what gives?
[02:00] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, click the Reload button
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !flash
[02:00] <ubotflu> Not a clue, Hobbsee
[02:00] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: aye, but I've used that "new" theme since... august, with my own modifications
[02:00] <emptystapler> In Adept, or Adept Updater?
[02:00] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, either should work
[02:00] <Hobbsee> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:00] <seth_k|lappy> they're both the same program, with different initial settings
[02:01] <Hobbsee> i'm assuming you want flash, sambagirl
[02:01] <sambagirl> www.demoscene.tv
[02:01] <sambagirl> no no no
[02:01] <sambagirl> i give up on flash for kubuntu
[02:01] <sambagirl> this is much different.
[02:01] <emptystapler> ah
[02:01] <chx> mplayer related maybe?
[02:01] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: I know, it's hard to talk about "new" stuff in kopete if you don't know I'm active user and wannabe-developer =)
[02:01] <chx> generally, video leads to mplayer
[02:01] <chx> mplayer leads to the Dark Side :P
[02:02] <emptystapler> seth_k|lappy: now, which package is the one I need to update, exactly?
[02:02] <sambagirl> this is for like asm coders and stuff like that. you know like amiga demos and stuff like that. the SCENE
[02:02] <emptystapler> it still reports 0 upgradeable
[02:02] <chx> because mplayer often needs w32codecs :(
[02:02] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, you're sure you added in the KDE 3.5 repo?
[02:02] <sambagirl> well can someone see if they work for this site? i can on my other ocmputer do it. but not in kubuntu.
[02:02] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, then will you make me a feature that respects my buddies' font / color settings? :P
[02:02] <sambagirl> http://www.demoscene.tv
[02:03] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, they just show up with the same font and color as my messages do.
[02:03] <Hobbsee> checking page...
[02:03] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: in where? atleast here they do respect
[02:03] <emptystapler> seth_k|lappy: looks like it didn't stay the first time, I may have forgotten to hit apply after adding
[02:03] <emptystapler> I now see 77 upgradeable
[02:03] <seth_k|lappy> odd, Tm_T
[02:03] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: if I don't disable it
[02:03] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: you can choose if it works or not ;)
[02:03] <seth_k|lappy> i saw that
[02:04] <seth_k|lappy> but I chose for it to work :P
[02:04] <seth_k|lappy> and it doesn't
[02:04] <seth_k|lappy> let me look some more :)
[02:04] <Tm_T> and it doesn't? then it's style that's ignoring it
[02:04] <Hobbsee> sambagirl: If you want to watch the stream you need to use a Windows system.
[02:04] <AoT> i have question.
[02:04] <chx> sambagirl: http://www.scvi.net/player.htm
[02:04] <sambagirl> i am on my other ocmputer watching the demos. that sthinks
[02:04] <sambagirl> everyone should see this.
[02:04] <chx> sambagirl: this will help you
[02:04] <sambagirl> this is awesome'
[02:05] <chx> sambagirl: I have googled nsv video linux
[02:05] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: what style doesn't follow it?
[02:05] <AoT> can someone tell me how to right-click on my powermac
[02:05] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: maybe I can fix it for you
[02:05] <seth_k|lappy> I think it's Command + click, AoT ?
[02:05] <chx> AoT: buy a two button mouse. $10 or less :)
[02:05] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, I'm just using the "new" ;) Kopete style?
[02:05] <seth_k|lappy> and all the "Formatting Overrides" are unchecked
[02:06] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:06] <AoT> command click does not work with kubuntu
[02:06] <seth_k|lappy> wow, font formatting actually works in AIM now! That's new for 0.11 :P
[02:06] <AoT> is there somewhere I can set key combos?
[02:06] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: I'll check one thing
[02:06] <seth_k|lappy> thanks Tm_T :)
[02:06] <seth_k|lappy> I love Kopete a lot more than Gaim, but Kopete has never worked for me very well
[02:06] <AoT> so I can also have a middle click
[02:07] <sambagirl> chx so kaffine should work, no?
[02:09] <sambagirl> what is ubuntu command to update everything?
[02:10] <bimberi> sambagirl: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[02:10] <Set> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:10] <Set> beat me to it
[02:11] <bimberi> :)
[02:11] <sambagirl> no i use hoary
[02:11] <sambagirl> the cdrom version
[02:11] <sambagirl> so which one i should do?
[02:11] <bimberi> sambagirl: either
[02:11] <Hobbsee> sambagirl: either
[02:11] <sambagirl> pt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:11] <fatdave> does anyone have amule installed on kubuntu?
[02:11] <sambagirl> ok
[02:11] <sambagirl>  thanks
[02:12] <chx> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=553780&postcount=2 here , I found the exact problem I have with my desktop (black squares on minimize / maximize) but I do not really know what to do with these tips. Someone could give me an explanation? :) thanks
[02:13] <fatdave> could someone tell me how to install amule on kubuntu please?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> !info amule
[02:13] <ubotflu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[02:13] <fatdave> !info amule
[02:14] <Hobbsee> fatdave: make sure you have universe, then just sudo apt-get install amule
[02:14] <sambagirl> this is the best eye and ear candy ever done on demoscene.tv what a site.
[02:14] <fatdave> whats universe?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> !universe
[02:16] <ubotflu> see repositories
[02:16] <Hobbsee> !repositories
[02:16] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: Wish i knew
[02:16] <Hobbsee> !repos
[02:16] <ubotflu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:16] <Hobbsee> i cant spell lol
[02:16] <bimberi> !components
[02:16] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[02:16] <bimberi> ^^^ describes the meanings of the various repositories
[02:17] <fatdave> ok.  thanks.
[02:18] <fatdave> also, i've just installed the nvidia drivers and all my fonts are huge.  anyone seen this before?
[02:19] <Snake__> Hey can anyone here help me samba?
[02:21] <bimberi> Hobbsee: i'm sure there used to be a "repositories" factoid (maybe ubotflu doesn't have that one)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> that's what i thought too...
[02:22] <sambagirl> fatdave you have huge fonts on the screen?
[02:23] <Snake__> sambagirl: can you help me with sambashare?
[02:23] <Snake__> lol
[02:23] <bimberi> Hobbsee: yep, it's even "created by Hobbsee" :)
[02:23] <sambagirl> no sorry snake_
[02:23] <Snake__> lol ok
[02:23] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:23] <fatdave> sambagirl: yes.  after i installed the nVidia drivers they seemed to have gotten bigger
[02:23] <bimberi> !samba
[02:23] <ubotflu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:24] <Hobbsee> bimberi: i vaguely remember editing it, actually
[02:24] <sambagirl> there 2 types of samba
[02:24] <Snake__> ubotflu: ??
[02:24] <ubotflu> Wish i knew, Snake__
[02:24] <Snake__> what about ubotu?
[02:24] <bimberi> Snake__: ubotu is ill :)
[02:24] <Snake__> Gotcha
[02:24] <Snake__> :)
[02:28] <fatdave> sambagirl: any ideas about the font thing?  i tried to adjust them from the system settings but that doesn't seem to change anything
[02:30] <Snake__> Hmmm
[02:30] <Snake__> why cant samba see my windows install...
[02:30] <Snake__> windows share**
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !ubotflu
[02:30] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: Are you on ritalin?
[02:32] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, colors and fonts worked after a restart of Kopete :)
[02:32] <Tm_T> uuh :)
[02:33] <Tm_T> good to know
[02:33] <emptystapler> Is there a firefox 1.5 package out there somewhere?
[02:33] <Snake__> No
[02:33] <seth_k|lappy> just for Dapper
[02:34] <emptystapler> alright.
[02:34] <Hobbsee> well...
[02:34] <Hobbsee> so we're into lying about that are we?  ok then.
[02:35] <seth_k|lappy> key word, package
[02:35] <seth_k|lappy> there are evil not-packages for Firefox 1.5
[02:35] <Snake__> Yea
[02:35] <emptystapler> I mean, I know how to compile it if I have to
[02:35] <seth_k|lappy> but we don't like those :P
[02:35] <Hobbsee> ah, that is true
[02:35] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, why compile? There are binaries on moz's site
[02:35] <Hobbsee> not like you have to fully compile it, and it's easy enough to remove...
[02:35] <Snake__> Well if you can complie go download it off of mozillas site
[02:35] <seth_k|lappy> just dump it in ~/ and let it be happy
[02:36] <Snake__> Anyone here running 3.5?
[02:37] <Tm_T> me
[02:37] <Snake__> Was it hard to install?
[02:37] <Tm_T> hmm, no
[02:37] <Hobbsee> Snake__: yes, and no
[02:37] <emptystapler> well, what do you know
[02:37] <emptystapler> those firefox i686 binaries work just dandy
[02:37] <dashinho> How can I change the keymap of my keyboard?
[02:37] <emptystapler> :D
[02:38] <Snake__> Hobbsee: explain?
[02:38] <Hobbsee> two questions, i answered them both
[02:38] <Hobbsee> yes, i'm running it, no, it wasnt hard to install
[02:38] <Snake__> ah ok
[02:38] <Snake__> lol
[02:38] <Snake__> :)
[02:38] <Snake__> Someone was saying i have to delete some packages and stuff
[02:38] <Snake__> !kde3.5
[02:38] <ubotflu> kde3.5 is, like, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:42] <emptystapler> is DMA transfer mode enabled for IDE devices in Kubuntu by default?
[02:42] <emptystapler> the mouse seems a little choppy whenever the disk is being accessed
[02:43] <Snake__> Is this all I have to do Hobbsee
[02:43] <Snake__> What this page says?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> yes
[02:44] <Snake__> Oh thats easy
[02:44] <Snake__> Someone was saying I had to remove repos and stuff
[02:44] <Snake__> and suggested I wait for dapper >.>
[02:46] <Hobbsee> lol...no
[02:46] <Hobbsee> i've been using 3.5 for a few months now
[02:46] <Snake__> kk
[02:47] <Snake__> Umm
[02:47] <Snake__> Wtf
[02:47] <Snake__> How do I get it??
[02:47] <Snake__> I did this sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[02:48] <Snake__> and got  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[02:48] <Snake__> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[02:48] <Snake__> OK
[02:51] <emptystapler> is it possible to sort your contact list in Kopete alphabetically? i'll be damned if i can find such an option
[02:53] <Hobbsee> Snake__: looks like it accepted it the second time then
[02:53] <Snake__> Hobbsee: well how exactly do I get it??
[02:53] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <Snake__> Ah ok
[02:57] <Snake__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> !repos
[02:58] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: I give up, what is it?
[02:58] <Snake__> lol
[02:59] <Hobbsee> weird bot
[02:59] <Snake__> I think I got it
[02:59] <emptystapler> Ahhhhhhhh! The middle-button doesn't close tabs in Firefox, either!
[02:59] <Snake__> The following packages will be upgraded:
[02:59] <Snake__>   ark arts artsbuilder kamera kappfinder kate kaudiocreator kcontrol kcron
[02:59] <Snake__>   kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins
[02:59] <Snake__> That look right?
[02:59] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, about:config
[02:59] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, search for middle
[02:59] <Hobbsee> Snake__: yeah
[02:59] <Snake__> kk
[03:00] <emptystapler> seth_k|lappy: YES! thanks!
[03:00] <Snake__> nice servers
[03:00] <Snake__> 190 kbps 0.0
[03:00] <Hobbsee> !repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:00] <emptystapler> err
[03:00] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: okay
[03:00] <Hobbsee> !repos
[03:00] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: I don't know
[03:00] <Hobbsee> darned bot
[03:00] <emptystapler> seth_k|lappy: none of the middlemouse.* options seem to apply...
[03:00] <Hobbsee> bimberi: doesnt seem to be adding things correctly...
[03:00] <emptystapler> seth_k|lappy: which did you have in mind?
[03:01] <Snake__> lol
[03:01] <seth_k|lappy> emptystapler, browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick = true && middlemouse.contentLoadURL = false
[03:01] <Snake__> I <3 broken bots
[03:01] <bimberi> Hobbsee: yes, i though maybe it's in a readonly mode.  But now things are disappearing
[03:01] <Snake__> Hobbsee: is 3.5 fster like everyons saying?
[03:01] <seth_k|lappy> ubotflu, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:01] <ubotflu> okay, seth_k|lappy
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> !repos
[03:02] <ubotflu> seth_k|lappy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:02] <emptystapler> seth_k|lappy: bingo! thanks
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> readonly mode, i imagine
[03:02] <Hobbsee> hehe - glad to see that it doesnt work for seth_k|lappy either!
[03:02] <bimberi> !beer
[03:02] <Snake__> LOL
[03:02] <Snake__> It remebers that
[03:02] <emptystapler> brb
[03:02] <Hobbsee> Snake__: i think so, it's been a while since i've used 3.4.3 to check against
[03:02] <Snake__> Hahaha
[03:02] <Hobbsee> !disco
[03:02] <ubotflu> Woo Yeah, boogie on down...... **flashing lights*** party :D
[03:02] <bimberi> well at least the important factoids are stil there :P
[03:02] <Hobbsee> remembers that too
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> alrighty guys, no more playing with the bot :P
[03:02] <Snake__> How long as 3.5 been out??
[03:02] <Hobbsee> and !cigarette, for those of you who smoke
[03:02] <Hobbsee> Snake__: um, couple of weeks?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> there were betas and rc's before that though
[03:03] <Snake__> Ya forgot about those :)
[03:03] <bimberi> seth_k|lappy: ok :) (will continue in /query)
[03:03] <seth_k|lappy> ;)
[03:04] <seth_k|lappy> goodness... I am trying to fix this computer that runs XP (that's what I do for a living) and it is _trashed_
[03:04] <seth_k|lappy> gogo Kubuntu
[03:04] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:04] <Hobbsee> stick kubuntu on it, no more problem
[03:05] <kinection> seth_k|lappy: it seems like anybody who knows enough about computers tends to be fixing XP as a living :)
[03:08] <Snake__> I fix XP for a living
[03:08] <Snake__> lol
[03:08] <Hobbsee> that's just scary
[03:08] <Snake__> Where would I be without microsoft...I have to thank their dumbasses for making it
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:09] <Snake__> okay Hobbsee its fully installed...
[03:09] <Snake__> I guess...
[03:09] <Snake__> how do I activate it??
[03:09] <Snake__> lol
[03:09] <seth_k|lappy> uh oh Tm_T, the showstopper bug in Kopete for me is still there :(
[03:09] <Hobbsee> Snake__: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:09] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, http://support.invisionfree.com/index.php?showtopic=93296&view=findpost&p=441233 says it is fixed but it's not fully fixed.
[03:10] <Snake__> Thanks
[03:10] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, oops, wrong link
[03:10] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62690 :P
[03:10] <Hobbsee> no permission to view topic...lol
[03:12] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: says fixed
[03:12] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, I know. But it's not. Here comes a screenshot.
[03:13] <Snake__> Hey uhh
[03:13] <Snake__> Should it be sitting here on "Checking battery state"??
[03:13] <Hobbsee> what's up Snake__
[03:13] <Hobbsee> where's that?
[03:14] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, http://sethkinast.com/tmp/kopete.png
[03:14] <Snake__> Its on my laptop
[03:14] <Snake__> Its a full black screen after I restarted KDM
[03:14] <Snake__> Or whatever
[03:14] <seth_k|lappy> look at the link. See the highlighted part? That's the part it used to open my browser when I clicked it.
[03:14] <Snake__> And it lists everything from boot up
[03:14] <seth_k|lappy> Snake__, that means X died and didn't start.
[03:14] <Snake__> Okay so what now?
[03:14] <seth_k|lappy> fix X
[03:14] <seth_k|lappy> :P
[03:14] <Snake__> How do I revive it?
[03:14] <seth_k|lappy> are you running Dapper?
[03:14] <Snake__> lol
[03:14] <Snake__> No
[03:14] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: and the problem is...
[03:14] <kinection> is there a way to get GTK icons in the systray to not out of palce and ugly?
[03:15] <kinection> *look
[03:15] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, it didn't open the whole link! it cut off thosse last 2 characters, "85"
[03:15] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, when I clicked it
[03:15] <occy> any way to make kmail auto check an account every say 3 minutes?
[03:15] <Snake__> Hobbsee help!
[03:15] <Snake__> lol
[03:15] <occy> seth_k|lappy: howdy again :)
[03:15] <seth_k|lappy> occy, install kbiff
[03:16] <robotgeek> hey seth_k|lappy
[03:16] <seth_k|lappy> and hi back at you :)
[03:16] <seth_k|lappy> hi robotgeek
[03:16] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: :o
[03:16] <occy> seth_k|lappy: heh, a biff agent?  awww man.... what is this, 1995?
[03:16] <occy> ;)
[03:16] <seth_k|lappy> occy, hehe, fine
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Snake__: try startx
[03:16] <Snake__> I cant type...
[03:16] <Snake__> It just...sits here
[03:16] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: never happened here, though I always copy url :p
[03:16] <Snake__> Blinking
[03:16] <occy> seth_k|lappy: are those things cpu intensive?
[03:16] <seth_k|lappy> occy, the one I use sits at like 3% cpu
[03:17] <Hobbsee> Snake__: reboot the machine?  sudo shutdown now -r
[03:17] <seth_k|lappy> on my 1.6 GHz
[03:17] <Snake__> Hobbsee I cannot type!
[03:17] <Snake__> lol
[03:17] <seth_k|lappy> Tm_T, may I add you to a messenger and send you a link, and see what happens?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> then how are you typing now?
[03:17] <occy> Hobbsee: I don't see how anyone can use GTK apps with kde.  I HATED used kde apps under gnome.   I like sticking with one toolkit to have consistancy.
[03:17] <Snake__> I'm on my big PC
[03:17] <Snake__> Not my laptop
[03:17] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: sure, msn?
[03:17] <Snake__> lol
[03:17] <Snake__> (Laptop has kubuntu)
[03:17] <Hobbsee> occy: i cant either, but i found kmail to be more painful than thunderbird
[03:17] <occy> that's not meant as a troll, but more of a UI consistancy statement.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> Snake__: ah...i see - hit the power button
[03:18] <occy> Hobbsee: nod, I'm missing Tbird now. :(
[03:18] <Snake__> rofl
[03:18] <Hobbsee> occy: so true.  it doesnt seem *that* far off...
[03:18] <occy> Hobbsee: stop tempting me with your forbidden fruits!
[03:18] <Hobbsee> occy: i use firefox anyway - tried to build it on qt engine, didnt work though
[03:18] <occy> must.... force... myself... to use.... k...mail....
[03:18] <Hobbsee> so i only have 2 programs that are built on gtk
[03:19] <occy> heh, forcing myself to use the konq too.... whew
[03:19] <Hobbsee> occy: thunderbird's better lol
[03:19] <Tm_T> seth_k|lappy: added :)
[03:19] <Snake__> How long should kubuntu take to shut down the PC.......mine will sit there forever, then I have to hold down the power button
[03:19] <Snake__> and its not a AT mobo...
[03:19] <Hobbsee> however, i think there is a setting in kmail that lets you check every few mins...
[03:20] <occy> Hobbsee: you are a temptress
[03:20] <occy> heh
[03:20] <Hobbsee> kde apps under gnome look worse than vice versa, if you have the gtk qt engine installed
[03:20] <Hobbsee> occy: hehe i know!
[03:20] <Snake__> And I know its going to corrupt something :(
[03:20] <occy> heh
[03:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:21] <occy> heh
[03:21] <occy> doesn't seem too bad
[03:21] <Snake__> Uhhhh KDE 3.4 looks exactly like 3.4.....
[03:21] <Snake__> 3.5 looks like 3.4**
[03:21] <crimsun> well yes, 3.4 would look like 3.4
[03:21] <seth_k|lappy> yeah, pretty much
[03:21] <crimsun> (imagine that!)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> there are some differences though - you'll slowly notice them
[03:22] <Hobbsee> hehe crimsun
[03:22] <Snake__> How do...I check?
[03:22] <Snake__> I must have screwed up something
[03:22] <occy> crimsun: heh
[03:22] <occy> crimsun: I'm switch hitting
[03:22] <Hobbsee> Snake__: konversation --version
[03:22] <occy> batting for the other team.
[03:22] <occy> etc.
[03:23] <Snake__> release 3.5.0
[03:23] <Snake__> Hmmm
[03:23] <occy> Hobbsee: heh
[03:23] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:23] <crimsun> occy: wha?
[03:23] <occy> Hobbsee: konversation wasn't my cup of tea
[03:23] <Hobbsee> rc5?
[03:24] <occy> crimsun: trying to use kde
[03:24] <Hobbsee> i'll use konversation, or irssi if i have no GUI
[03:24] <occy> I used to use (until yesterday?) xchat for the past 5 years?
[03:24] <crimsun> occy: that ain't switch hitting. I'd be concerned if you reverted to Mac OS 8 or something.
[03:24] <Hobbsee> why switch to kde if you dont like it?
[03:24] <occy> crimsun: haha
[03:24] <occy> crimsun: I am || close to buying a mac and saying to heck with Linux for a while.
[03:25] <Anakashar> does anyone know how to get the rar reader plugin for karchiver?
[03:25] <occy> crimsun: seriously, I have work I need to do, and breezy has been dying on me left and right.
[03:25] <Snake__> Hmm
[03:25] <crimsun> I use everything under the sun, KDE, GNOME, Xfce, IceWM, XPde, XP, whatever...
[03:25] <Snake__> That was way to easy
[03:25] <occy> crimsun: me trying KDE is a last ditch effort at stability.
[03:25] <Snake__> crimsun: is xfce any good?
[03:26] <crimsun> Anakashar: as in installing rar?
[03:26] <crimsun> Snake__: yes, it's good. It may not suit your tastes, though.
[03:26] <Anakashar> well, i have a rar file, and not sure how to open it
[03:26] <Snake__> Whys that?
[03:26] <crimsun> Snake__: because there is no one desktop for everyone
[03:26] <Snake__> ah
[03:26] <Knowerrors> xfce only good if your machine is too slow for kde
[03:26] <Hobbsee> most stuff wouldnt open on me...not sure why
[03:26] <Snake__> Well my machine is fine with KDE, and I hate gnome
[03:27] <Hobbsee> same here
[03:27] <Snake__> Xfce was the last major thing I was looking into
[03:27] <occy> I love(d) gnome
[03:27] <Hobbsee> 3 OS's is enough on this 40 gig laptop for me - i dont need multiple DM's as well
[03:27] <occy> but KDE is quite powerful.
[03:27] <occy> there are TONS of nice things in KDE
[03:27] <jahshua> what is a window maker ?
[03:27] <Snake__> I hate how gnome looks..I hate how it works
[03:27] <Snake__> lol
[03:27] <occy> heh
[03:27] <Snake__> I just hate it.
[03:27] <occy> that's the thing, I hate how KDE looks
[03:27] <Snake__> lol
[03:27] <occy> :)
[03:27] <Snake__> Heh
[03:27] <Hobbsee> go back to gnome then lol
[03:28] <occy> but at this point, I'll take a crappy desktop over things dying on me.
[03:28] <occy> *chuckle*
[03:28] <occy> it's not really crappy....
[03:28] <Snake__> U may learn to love KDE
[03:28] <Snake__> :)
[03:28] <fatdave> hey guys.  is there a file i can set up wireless network settings in so I don't have to do iwconfig commands when I first boot up?
[03:28] <occy> a lot of things are quite nice.
[03:28] <Snake__> Go into your settings
[03:28] <occy> Snake__: ran KDE for like 3years from 97-00
[03:28] <Snake__> lol
[03:28] <occy> or something like that.
[03:29] <Snake__> fatdave: In system settings
[03:29] <Snake__> Go to connections
[03:29] <Snake__> No wait
[03:29] <occy> raise your hand if you used kfm 0.1.0 when it came out!
[03:29] <Snake__> ims sorry, network settings
[03:29] <fatdave> k.  there
[03:29] <_nano_> Snake__: hey!
[03:29] <Snake__> Go into admin mode
[03:29] <Snake__> _nano_:  whats up
[03:29] <fatdave> done
[03:30] <_nano_> Snake__: any luck with the wireless? :P
[03:30] <Snake__> _nano_: Im on it
[03:30] <Snake__> :)
[03:30] <Snake__> configure wlan0
[03:30] <Snake__> fatdave
[03:30] <Snake__> Set it all up there
[03:32] <occy> Hobbsee: ok, you are evil, I'm using Tbird.  heh, I can't take it.
[03:32] <fatdave> alright.  we'll see if this works.  it hasn't in the past
[03:32] <Hobbsee> hehehehe
[03:32] <Hobbsee> occy: how about firefox?
[03:32] <Snake__> _nano_: Ya I woke up thie morning, and its been working great ever since
[03:32] <Hobbsee> it's got a nice plasticfox theme too, so it looks more kde-ish
[03:32] <occy> well
[03:32] <occy> FF was crashing on me quite a lot.
[03:32] <_nano_> Snake__: you got that WAP stuff working? great! congrats :D
[03:32] <occy> maybe it was just gnome 2.12 crap
[03:32] <occy> :/
[03:33] <Snake__> _nano_:  HA WAP!
[03:33] <Snake__> HAHAHA
[03:33] <occy> I might give it a shot..... but if that sucker dies....
[03:33] <Snake__> No not that
[03:33] <Snake__> :)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> probbaly was
[03:33] <Snake__> I set up mac filtering
[03:33] <_nano_> Snake__: LOL!
[03:33] <occy> I'll try konq
[03:33] <Snake__> WAP will never be
[03:34] <Snake__> Hey I noticed something new on 3.5!
[03:34] <Snake__> "Switch User"
[03:34] <Snake__> lol
[03:34] <odin> Does anyone play world of warcraft?
[03:35] <_nano_> Snake__: i guess you got rid of the "root" of the problem -- WAP ;)
[03:35] <Snake__> Hehe
[03:35] <Snake__> Does linux need any antivirus??
[03:35] <Snake__> or firewall I should know about?
[03:35] <psychocat> not really
[03:35] <Snake__> Or spy scanner
[03:35] <psychocat> you can run both but they aren't needed
[03:36] <Snake__> Wouldn't opensource be easier to hack than closed?
[03:36] <psychocat> at the same time it can be built safer than closed source too right?
[03:36] <_nano_> Snake__: opensource would ensure the security to be patched sooner
[03:37] <_nano_> Snake__: moreover the linux filesystem itself is secure
[03:37] <Snake__> _nano_: I noticed its like a glass wall
[03:37] <Snake__> You can see everything, but only access it with a key
[03:37] <_nano_> Snake__: great analogy :P
[03:37] <psychocat> it's much more secure
[03:38] <Snake__> But at the same time, someone could look at the source, notice a expliot, and ship it across the net
[03:38] <Snake__> obviously a patch would be released the next day, but a lot of people would be screwed
[03:39] <M_Cheevy> anyone have much experience with sensors (and karamba aero-aio)?
[03:39] <Snake__> What does adept updater do?
[03:39] <psychocat> it updates the system
[03:39] <Snake__> So its like apt-get upgrade?
[03:40] <psychocat> yeah
[03:40] <Snake__> kk
[03:40] <Snake__> :( I wish I could see my shared windows folders
[03:41] <psychocat> what do you mean?
[03:41] <psychocat> write to them?
[03:41] <Snake__> No
[03:41] <Snake__> Read off my shared MP3 Folder
[03:41] <psychocat> you can
[03:41] <Snake__> For some reason "I" cant
[03:41] <Snake__> lol
[03:41] <jahshua> does kubuntu have alot of bugs ?
[03:42] <Snake__> Does a dog fly?
[03:42] <jahshua> heh
[03:42] <jahshua> ;p
[03:42] <psychocat> runs solid on my pc
[03:42] <Hobbsee> it has some, like every program and OS does
[03:42] <Snake__> jahshua: lets put it this way: A lot less that OTHER OSes...
[03:42] <Snake__> than**
[03:42] <psychocat> snake, do you get any kind of error when you try to access your windows folders?
[03:42] <Snake__> ya
[03:43] <Snake__> hold on
[03:43] <Snake__> Unable to find any workgroups
[03:43] <psychocat> the folders are on the same pc?
[03:43] <Snake__> No
[03:43] <Snake__> Network
[03:43] <Snake__> My main PC to my laptop
[03:44] <psychocat> ah, samba fun stuff
[03:44] <Snake__> Ja
[03:44] <psychocat> sorry, i don't have samba setup
[03:44] <Snake__> ok :(
[03:45] <DJ_Mer_> ferb -A person who farts in the bathtub water and bites the bubbles.
[03:46] <psychocat> snake, did you try to google some info. on samba?
[03:46] <Snake__> Na its not that important
[03:46] <Snake__> I just wish I could listen to music
[03:46] <Snake__> lol
[03:47] <Hobbsee> Snake__: you running a firewall?
[03:47] <Snake__> Not that im aware of
[03:47] <Snake__> well..my router...if that counts
[03:47] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[03:50] <Snake__> Hobbsee: any idea?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> no, except for installing smbfs
[03:50] <Snake__> smbfs?
[03:51] <_nano_> Hobbsee: doesn't kde install samba by default?
[03:51] <_nano_> !samba
[03:51] <ubotflu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:51] <_nano_> Hobbsee: i mean kubuntu sorry
[03:51] <Hobbsee> it does, but it doesnt install smbfs
[03:52] <jahshua> hello
[03:53] <gandhii> keyboard doesnt work on install... at the first screen where it asks for language.  Tried 2 different "standard" keyboards that work fine under other circumstances.
[03:53] <jahshua> i just installed kubuntu on part of my hd, with xp on the other for dual booting, i now only want to use kde..can i simply reinstall and re write the whole hd or what
[03:53] <_nano_> gandhii: keyboard worked during installation?
[03:53] <_nano_> gandhii: by that i mean keyboard plugged in properly?
[03:55] <Snake__> This is a good question
[03:55] <Snake__> (((Q: I don't have a 'Windows Networking' section, only Hostname and Domain-name. What do I do now?)))
[03:55] <Snake__> Thats all I got...
[03:55] <gandhii> nano..  yea
[03:56] <gandhii> its the same for amd64, i386, live, install, kubuntu, ubuntu  etc
[03:56] <gandhii> keyboards work fine in bios..  windows.. etc..  just not in various linux installs..
[03:57] <Knowerrors> jahshua: just install qtparted... then use it to delete the windows partition and resize the kubuntu one
[03:57] <Snake__> !samba
[03:57] <gandhii> is there an nforce4 bug?
[03:57] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:57] <Snake__> This makes no sense
[03:59] <gandhii> any ideas?
[03:59] <jahshua> Knowerrors: i install qtparted in Adept ?
[03:59] <Knowerrors> yes
[04:00] <gandhii> has nobody else have this problem?    i saw a post of the same error on the forums...  but i guess those dont get used much since there arent many responses there.
[04:02] <Snake__> Hmmm it pulled a windows on me
[04:02] <Snake__> !samba
[04:03] <ubotflu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:04] <Snake__> When was linux 2.6 made?
[04:04] <psychocat> the second link is more complete snake
[04:05] <jahshua> Knowerrors: qparted isnt in my Adept.
[04:05] <Snake__> jahshua: did you open the universe and multiverse?
[04:06] <jahshua> ooh
[04:06] <jahshua> no
[04:06] <jahshua> i dont know how
[04:06] <Snake__> Do that ;)
[04:06] <jahshua> hmmm
[04:06] <Snake__> Hold on
[04:06] <ubuntu> qtparted
[04:06] <Snake__> !repos
[04:06] <ubotflu> I haven't a clue, Snake__
[04:06] <Knowerrors> jahshua: enable all the repos first and reload
[04:06] <Snake__> Argh
[04:06] <jahshua> where are repos at
[04:06] <Snake__> jahshua: go to adept
[04:06] <Snake__> then modify repos
[04:07] <Snake__> Manage repos**
[04:07] <psychocat> snake, kernel 2.6 was released around march 2004
[04:07] <Snake__> psychocat: oh okay I thought it was older than tht
[04:07] <Snake__> that**
[04:07] <Knowerrors> jahshua: then click on the ones you want and enable
[04:07] <jahshua> i cant see modify or repos anywhere
[04:08] <Snake__> Its manage repsriotys
[04:08] <Snake__> to be exact
[04:08] <Snake__> (repos is short for that)
[04:08] <jahshua> oh
[04:08] <jahshua> yes
[04:08] <Snake__> click that, read through it, right click on the ones for universe
[04:08] <Knowerrors> click on the Adept menu
[04:08] <Knowerrors> then Manage
[04:08] <Snake__> and enable
[04:09] <Knowerrors> then click on the lines that say #deb and right click enable
[04:09] <Knowerrors> for universe and multiverse
[04:09] <Snake__> How do I stop the terminal from pinging/?
[04:09] <Snake__> ahh
[04:10] <ubuntu> dtrc c
[04:10] <Snake__> ??
[04:10] <kinfo> what?
[04:10] <gandhiii> dont suppose i got any answers while i was disconnected?
[04:10] <Snake__> I made the terminal ping a host....and itwont stop
[04:10] <Snake__> lol
[04:11] <bimberi> Snake__: <ctrl>C
[04:11] <Snake__> ah
[04:11] <Snake__> Thanks :)
[04:11] <bimberi> np :)
[04:11] <Snake__> Well I can ping my MP3 server...
[04:12] <jahshua> ok so i did that
[04:12] <Snake__> jahshua: now reload
[04:12] <jahshua> i enabled the universe ones
[04:12] <Snake__> and then look for the program
[04:12] <sambagirl> snake what is address for mp3 server?
[04:12] <Snake__> you should have like 17k packages to choose from (Litterally)
[04:12] <sambagirl> or is private?
[04:12] <Snake__> private
[04:12] <sambagirl> ok
[04:12] <Snake__> local
[04:12] <Snake__> lol
[04:12] <sambagirl> ok
[04:12] <Knowerrors> jahshua: "fetch updates"
[04:13] <jahshua> :)
[04:13] <jahshua> fetching
[04:13] <Snake__> man it worked before...
[04:13] <jahshua> thanks
[04:13] <Snake__> Then my network screwed up
[04:13] <Snake__> and now i cant see it
[04:14] <jahshua> ok so i got it :)
[04:14] <jahshua> so if install this
[04:14] <jahshua> what gonna happen
[04:14] <jahshua> do i need to close down irc etc
[04:14] <sambagirl> someone want try to recieve my videostream?
[04:14] <sambagirl> i using vlc
[04:15] <sambagirl> trying again.
[04:15] <Knowerrors> jahshua: nope
[04:15] <Knowerrors> just make sure the windows partition isn't mounted before you try to change it
[04:16] <jahshua> oh crap
[04:16] <jahshua> how do i do that
[04:16] <jahshua> lol
[04:16] <Snake__> right click the drive
[04:16] <Snake__> unmount
[04:16] <jahshua> i dunno how to do that in linux yet
[04:16] <jahshua> hmm
[04:16] <Snake__> or uhhh...sudo umount....uhhh crap
[04:16] <Snake__> i cant remeber the code
[04:17] <Knowerrors> jahshua: just go to storage media in Konqueror, right click on your drive, then unmount
[04:17] <Knowerrors> that is, if it has a green arrow on it, otherwise its not mounted
[04:17] <Snake__> my kde shows nothing in my media folder
[04:18] <Snake__> Bug?
[04:18] <jahshua> media:/    has a unmounted floppy disk   thats it
[04:20] <swim> anyone have alphacube installed?
[04:20] <Knowerrors> jahshua: prob means only linux HD partition is mounted
[04:21] <Snake__> what are some good, stupid little linux games?
[04:21] <Snake__> Like frozen bubble
[04:21] <jahshua> i got an error earlier when i tried to boot into xp .. a missing .dll file
[04:21] <jahshua> so, should i just run this Knowerrors
[04:21] <Knowerrors> yeah, qtparted will tell you if it can't commit the changes
[04:23] <jahshua> ok well wow
[04:23] <Snake__> Hobbsee: know of any cool small games like frozen bubble?
[04:23] <jahshua> that took 1 minute
[04:23] <Hobbsee> Snake__: plenty, have a look in synaptic/adept
[04:23] <Snake__> Something not so graphic intesnsive thats still fun
[04:23] <jahshua> how do i check  my hd properties to see how many gb i have now
[04:23] <Hobbsee> supertux, planetpenguinracer, pingus, kdegames...there are heaps
[04:23] <Snake__> lol
[04:24] <Snake__> Yay
[04:24] <Snake__> I get to have fun on my lil lappy
[04:24] <Tm_T> how about freeciv
[04:24] <Tm_T> or wesnoth
[04:24] <Snake__> Anyone ever play pocket tanks?
[04:24] <Snake__> (on windows)
[04:24] <Tm_T> what's that
[04:24] <Snake__> Its a lil 2 day game
[04:24] <Snake__> its pretty sweet
[04:25] <Snake__> You can get the demo on downloads.com
[04:25] <Tm_T> neverheard
[04:25] <bimberi> yeah, what's windows? :P
[04:25] <Snake__> You get 30 weapons (all pretty cool) and try to shoot down your opponants tank
[04:25] <Tm_T> hmm, nothing new I afraid
[04:26] <Hobbsee> !windows
[04:26] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[04:26] <Snake__> Not really, but its done really well
[04:26] <Hobbsee> that's what windows is!
[04:26] <Snake__> LOL
[04:26] <swim> what package holds x includes?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> !xincludes
[04:26] <ubotflu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[04:26] <swim> cheers :)
[04:26] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:26] <bimberi> yay, that one worked! :)
[04:26] <Tm_T> Hobbsee <3
[04:26] <Hobbsee> hey Tm_T :)
[04:27] <Tm_T> I'm still alive
[04:27] <bimberi> !alternative
[04:27] <ubotflu> hmm... alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:27] <Hobbsee> oh good
[04:29] <swim> hmm how about qt headers and libraries :) ?
[04:30] <swim> !qt headers
[04:30] <dutch> good night
[04:30] <ubotflu> Bugger all, i dunno, swim
[04:30] <swim> !qtheaders
[04:30] <ubotflu> swim: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:30] <swim> :\
[04:31] <Hobbsee> swim: kde-devel
[04:31] <Knowerrors> swim: try searchin for em in adept :)
[04:31] <Hobbsee> as in, sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[04:32] <swim> thx Hobbsee
[04:32] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:32] <Hobbsee> what are you compiling?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> and are you going to use checkinstall?
[04:32] <swim> I dont know what checkinstall is, Im compiling Alphacube kde deco
[04:33] <swim> hmm kde-devel install from adept says Action: Break install...
[04:33] <swim> bummer
[04:34] <Hobbsee> !checkinstall
[04:34] <ubotflu> methinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:34] <Hobbsee> swim: do it from apt-get, and you'll get to see the error
[04:35] <swim> unmet deps
[04:35] <Knowerrors> swim: thats why you should get/use Synaptic (the ease of Adept with the power of apt-get)
[04:36] <swim> Knowerrors: I tried kynaptic... but it's so elementary in comparison to gtk synaptic
[04:36] <Hobbsee> swim: pastebin the error?
[04:36] <swim> sec
[04:36] <Hobbsee> i just use apt-get anyway, and apt-cache search - i havent opened adept in a few months
[04:36] <Knowerrors> swim: you know synaptic works in kde ;)
[04:40] <Snake__> How do I use kdegames?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Snake__: sudo apt-get install kdegames
[04:41] <_nano_> Snake__: use as in?
[04:41] <Snake__> theres no games :(
[04:41] <Snake__> lol
[04:41] <_nano_> yeah apt-get thingy
[04:41] <Snake__> I installed froze bubble to...and I cant find it
[04:41] <Snake__> its not in K-Menu
[04:42] <Snake__> frozen bubble**
[04:42] <Hobbsee> use kappfinder
[04:42] <Hobbsee> or add it manually
[04:42] <Snake__> Hobbsee: how if I have no clue where it installed to??
[04:43] <_nano_> Snake__: tab completion should work
[04:43] <Hobbsee> locate frozen bubble
[04:43] <Snake__> tab??
[04:43] <Snake__> Ahh
[04:43] <Snake__> >>
[04:44] <_jlh> hello
[04:44] <zak-jensen> I am having problems with my wireless network setup within the kubuntu installer, and was wondering if I could get some help with it.
[04:44] <zak-jensen> hello :)
[04:45] <Snake__> _nano_: what do you mean tab completion?
[04:45] <_nano_> Snake__: type a few start chars and then press tab
[04:46] <Snake__> ...
[04:46] <Snake__> Where?? I used adapt
[04:46] <Snake__> adept*
[04:46] <_nano_> Snake__: no in console :P
[04:46] <swim> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.ca/34126
[04:47] <Snake__> HOLY CRAP
[04:47] <Snake__> I can run these games from the console?!??!
[04:47] <Snake__> SWEET!
[04:48] <zak-jensen> Snake__: you can run practically anything from the console ;)
[04:48] <_nano_> Snake__: you could run anything from console
[04:48] <_nano_> yeah
[04:48] <Snake__> well I know that, but i didnt know i could just type...frozen-bubble
[04:48] <Snake__> and it would run
[04:48] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:48] <_nano_> lol
[04:49] <zak-jensen> as long as the location of the binary is within your PATH, you can run it. Otherwise, you have to find it by hand. (well, or add it to your path)
[04:49] <zak-jensen> :)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> swim: sudo apt-get install kdesdk kde-devel kdelibs4-dev kdebase-dev libkonq4-dev
[04:49] <Snake__> man I love this game
[04:50] <zak-jensen> is the kubuntu installer broken or something? It won't let me log into my wireless network... and I checked the config by hand thrice already.
[04:50] <Knowerrors> Snake__: Unless you want to debug something, just go K>run>frozen-bubble... and if it didn't make a menu entry for you, you can right click on the K and menu editor to add an icon manually
[04:52] <Snake__> Linux never ceases to amaze me
[04:52] <zak-jensen> lol
[04:52] <Ayiden> Hi, I was stupid and "attempted to install gnome along with kde and gnome loaded once .. the second time I logged into gome it just froze.. so I uninstalled it.. kde seemed to work fine.. well now I am getting errors.. (which I think was the reason gnome wasnt working) I am now getting errors when I uninstall or install a program... CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (en
[04:53] <Ayiden> CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[04:53] <MrMazda> brand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?
[04:53] <Ayiden> I was getting that error when I tried to install gnome
[04:54] <Ayiden> and now im still getting it after uninstalling everything I could find that had to do with gnome
[04:54] <Ayiden> any one know what that means?
[04:54] <Ayiden> or what could be my problem?
[04:54] <Ayiden> CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[04:54] <zak-jensen> depends where the errors are coming from
[04:54] <zak-jensen> when do they occur?
[04:54] <Ayiden> when I install or uninstall a program
[04:54] <Ayiden> not ever program though
[04:55] <Ayiden> anything to do with desktop
[04:55] <Ayiden> that error was process 9087 when installing desktop-file-utilities
[04:55] <Snake__> MAN! Thats crazy.
[04:55] <Snake__> Alt+F2+Gimp = Open program
[04:55] <Snake__> I love it
[04:56] <zak-jensen> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/12/msg01325.html
[04:56] <zak-jensen> there's the solution to your problem.
[04:56] <zak-jensen> Or, it should be.
[04:57] <Ayiden> zak-jensen: wow thanks alot im checking it out right now
[04:57] <zak-jensen> it's a debian solution though. May be different within Kubuntu, if they changed the location for that file in any way
[04:57] <zak-jensen> np
[04:57] <zak-jensen> now, if I could only log on to my wireless network... :/
[04:57] <emptystapler> Is there any way to sort your contact list in Kopete alphabetically?
[05:00] <Ayiden>  For anyone else having this problem, the cause appears to be a botched mplayer.desktop file in the unofficial mplayer-<arch> packages; to fix the problem, edit /usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop so that the contents aren't repeated.
[05:00] <Ayiden> hmm what am i suppose to edit nothing seems to be repeating
[05:00] <Ayiden> hmmm
[05:01] <Ayiden> is it talking about the mime types?
[05:01] <zak-jensen> that may not be the problem. It was just the first solution that appeared in a google search. It may be a different .desktop file
[05:01] <Ayiden> I know.. maybe purge mplayer and then reinstall
[05:01] <Ayiden> ah
[05:01] <Ayiden> okay
[05:01] <Ayiden> this might take a while
[05:02] <zak-jensen> Ayiden: learn and love grep ;)
[05:03] <Ayiden> yes but can grep search for repeated things in the desktop files?
[05:03] <zak-jensen> If I had a running nix box, I'd write up a little command line script you could use to find where ever the command was repeated. Unfortunately, the only one I have running I can't log into at the moment.
[05:04] <zak-jensen> maybe. Look at the options. I'd personally pipe it through something that did
[05:05] <Ayiden> your having trouble with your wireless network right? sometimes they can be a pain
[05:05] <zak-jensen> yeh
[05:05] <Ayiden> it didnt find it on install?
[05:05] <zak-jensen> it seems to be trying to log me in to any network except the one I specify.
[05:05] <zak-jensen> It's in the instal
[05:05] <zak-jensen> I worked around it by specifying an IP
[05:05] <zak-jensen> *manually
[05:06] <emptystapler> is there no way to alleviate jerky mouse movement when disk i/o is occuring?
[05:06] <Ayiden> I had some trouble once with a linspire installation.. it found all of the computers on the network and could play with their files and they were all windows but it would NOT go online
[05:06] <zak-jensen> strange stuff
[05:07] <Ayiden> emptystapler: yes change the I/O schedualrs in the kernel
[05:07] <emptystapler> ...
[05:07] <jahshua> so after i install programs from Adept, whatsa the command to activate them
[05:07] <Ayiden> take off the one that tries to equalize bandwidth
[05:07] <Ayiden> jahshua: umm they are all already activated....
[05:08] <Ayiden> just access them
[05:08] <jahshua> ah yes
[05:08] <jahshua> thats what i meant
[05:08] <Ayiden> us run or ./ in command
[05:08] <Ayiden> what program are you trying to run?
[05:08] <Snake__> Do i need gtk for linux>>
[05:09] <Snake__> ??*
[05:09] <Ayiden> Snake__: no but it might make things look a little nicer...
[05:09] <Ayiden> ha ha
[05:09] <Snake__> Well im trying to play a game...it says GTK
[05:09] <Snake__> freeciv, anyone herd of it?
[05:09] <zak-jensen> yep. never tried to use it though. :/
[05:10] <Ayiden> yeah its a civilization like game
[05:10] <zak-jensen> doesn't kubuntu resolve the dependencies automatically?
[05:10] <Ayiden> it has different flavors besides gtk
[05:10] <Ayiden> yes
[05:10] <Ayiden> well apt does
[05:10] <Ayiden> but if they arent marked in the package then it cant
[05:11] <Snake__> okay so if install it with adept ill get GTK wont I?
[05:11] <McScruff> can someone help me with this compile -- http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/469749
[05:11] <Ayiden> freeciv-client-gtk
[05:11] <Snake__> yes
[05:11] <Ayiden> you should
[05:11] <Snake__> ok
[05:11] <Ayiden> you need freeciv and freeciv-data etc..
[05:11] <Snake__> ya that was with the dependencies
[05:12] <emptystapler> another basic question. when i launch apps with kdesu, they don't seem to inherit my user's window settings (font sizes, etc). what gives?
[05:12] <Ayiden> emptystapler: because its running from root
[05:12] <Ayiden> emptystapler: root has differnet settings
[05:12] <Ayiden> emptystapler: try sudo instead
[05:12] <Ayiden> ksudo?
[05:13] <emptystapler> ... but if the root account is disabled, how would you change them?
[05:13] <emptystapler> some things don't seem to work with sudo, such as kate
[05:13] <Ayiden> you activate the root account
[05:13] <Ayiden> yes
[05:13] <Ayiden> I know
[05:13] <emptystapler> ksudo?
[05:13] <Ayiden> I have my root account enabled just in case
[05:13] <Ayiden> no
[05:14] <Snake__> I use vi instead of kate
[05:14] <Ayiden> I dont thin there is a ksudo...
[05:14] <emptystapler> I was just curious why you said that
[05:14] <emptystapler> (typo?)
[05:14] <Ayiden> yes >.<
[05:14] <emptystapler> :)
[05:14] <zak-jensen> there isn't. the ksu program was actually modified (by the accounts I heard) to work with sudo
[05:14] <McScruff> anyone http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/469749
[05:15] <Snake__> _nano_: you here?
[05:15] <Ayiden> I wasnt thiking for some reason *(lol)
[05:15] <_nano_> Snake__: yeah
[05:15] <emptystapler> well, that kind of sucks. i don't want to have to duplicate every visual setting i have for root
[05:15] <_nano_> Snake__: whats up!
[05:15] <Snake__> _nano_: remeber before about the launching programs thing?
[05:15] <Ayiden> emptystapler: maybe someone else knows another way
[05:15] <Ayiden> but thats the only way I know
[05:15] <Snake__> well I got freeciv.....and..its no in Kmenu
[05:15] <Snake__> tab complete wont work
[05:15] <Snake__> and run wont work
[05:16] <Snake__> what now
[05:16] <Ayiden> its because it uses gtk instead of kde's themes
[05:16] <emptystapler> Ayiden: sudo seems like the natural solution.. i wish i knew why the hell it's broken for various kde apps
[05:16] <Ayiden> emptystapler: yes I know.. they really should have a ksudo
[05:16] <jahshua> how do i open/run files i got from adept
[05:16] <zak-jensen> you could symlink root to your .kde directory in home
[05:16] <jahshua> i have forgotten the commad
[05:16] <zak-jensen> ln -s /home/name/.kde /root/.kde
[05:16] <jahshua> bitchx for instance
[05:16] <emptystapler> hmmm
[05:17] <Ayiden> zak-jensen: that could be dangerous though
[05:17] <zak-jensen> yep
[05:17] <jahshua> bitchx-gtk
[05:17] <zak-jensen> but its *a solution* ;)
[05:17] <Ayiden> very.. you could end up screwing up your own home directory
[05:17] <Ayiden> yeah
[05:17] <zak-jensen> or you can copy it
[05:17] <Ayiden> like if a program installing in root went to right to both directories .. not good
[05:18] <zak-jensen> but then they can get out of sync
[05:18] <Ayiden> write*
[05:18] <emptystapler> hm.
[05:18] <emptystapler> well, that's something to mull over
[05:18] <emptystapler> did you guys see my earlier question about Kopete?
[05:18] <emptystapler> i'm digging it so far, but can't figure out how to sort my list alphabetically automatically
[05:19] <emptystapler> on the whole i like it way better than gaim. can't stand that app
[05:19] <zak-jensen> the kde team (last I knew) was considering/working on a settings migration tool. Won't help for now, but it's nice to know that they are considering implementing something like it.
[05:19] <zak-jensen> emptystapler: I looked around a bit, but without kopete installed at present, I can't offer much help :/
[05:19] <Snake__> _nano_: I guess thats a no?
[05:20] <emptystapler> zak-jensen: if i haven't found it by now, chances are it's nowhere even remotely obvious. seems like a strange omission
[05:20] <_nano_> Snake__: oops...unless you use my nick..it's not notified...lemme scroll up an see the messages sorry :P
[05:20] <Snake__> Heh ok
[05:21] <emptystapler> d'oh, i just realized kopete doesn't even implement file transfers
[05:21] <emptystapler> looks like i might have to keep gaim around after all. curses!
[05:22] <Ayiden> gnome has a sudo.. gksudo...
[05:22] <Ayiden> *(lol)
[05:22] <emptystapler> bleh
[05:22] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: some protocols work
[05:22] <Ayiden> emptystapler: yeah I prefer gaim over anything
[05:22] <emptystapler> i should have specified: i mean with AIM
[05:23] <Ayiden> emptystapler: I wish they had gaim video though... they have phone gaim jeesh
[05:23] <emptystapler> i've been periodically trying the gaim cvs builds in windows at work and such, and haven't been impressed
[05:23] <_nano_> Snake__: you used apt-get install freeciv?
[05:23] <emptystapler> but mainly because gtk+ is horrid in windows
[05:24] <Snake__> i used adept
[05:24] <jahshua> how do i open/run files i get from adept
[05:24] <jahshua> :/
[05:24] <jahshua> im so tired
[05:24] <jahshua> cant remnember anything
[05:24] <jahshua> should go to bed
[05:24] <Ayiden> emptystapler: windows has a gaim transparancy thing but thats it
[05:24] <jahshua> bleh
[05:24] <kalenedrael> Why can't people just use apt-{get,cache}?
[05:24] <Snake__> _nano_: I used adept
[05:25] <_nano_> Snake__: lemme check what freeciv is :P
[05:25] <Snake__> _nano_: Its a game
[05:25] <Ayiden> _nano_: its a civ like game
[05:25] <emptystapler> Ayiden: that wimp theme it has is horrible, fonts are impossible to read and don't render accurately incoming or outgoing if you try and correct it in the gtkrc config... it is awful at rendering aim profiles, too
[05:25] <zak-jensen> well, I think I'm signing off for now. hope you guys get solutions to your problems. :) ttyl
[05:26] <Ayiden> emptystapler: yes maybe microsoft will get better in long horn ha ha...
[05:26] <Ayiden> long horn(s)
[05:26] <Snake__> Ayiden: Vista actually doesn't look THAT bad,,,its the rights managment im worriedabout
[05:26] <_nano_> Ayiden: is it something like AOE?
[05:26] <emptystapler> Snake__: same here
[05:26] <_nano_> Ayiden: i might as well install it then :D
[05:27] <Ayiden> they cut back on fixing the bugs in that too.. they want to "rush" it to get it out bye middle 2006
[05:27] <emptystapler> I am a fan of win2k, and xp to an extent... but i'll never welcome a barrage of drm into my machine
[05:27] <Snake__> emptystapler: same
[05:27] <Snake__> the day I can't watch HDTV without a "Compliant" moniter is the day I stick to linux
[05:28] <Snake__> The day I can't copy a CD without calling up the publisher is the day I blow up microsoft lol
[05:28] <emptystapler> heheh
[05:28] <Ayiden> emptystapler: long horn is said to have more security and their are rumors that it will even "watch" us invading our privacy ... to look for "piracy" and such
[05:28] <Ayiden> freaky
[05:28] <Snake__> Ayiden: Its true to a extent
[05:28] <Snake__> They have DRM managment that will moniter everything going on in your system
[05:28] <Snake__> But no one is actually monitering your system (No human)
[05:29] <Ayiden> Snake__: yes I know that.. but the fact that ANYTHING is monitoring me makes me uneasy
[05:29] <Snake__> Of course M$ auto uploads the DRM manaments log file if you do something "Illigal"
[05:29] <Snake__> Same here
[05:29] <emptystapler> the only reason i stick with windows year after year is because i play so many games... but over the past year or so even that's become a royal pain in the ass with godawful copy proection mechanisms making it a hassle to do even that
[05:29] <emptystapler> see: Starforce
[05:29] <Snake__> You should be buying the games :)
[05:29] <Snake__> lol
[05:30] <kadaj> who use thunderbird here
[05:30] <Snake__> I personally like to make ISOs of my games tho, then just mount them
[05:30] <emptystapler> hey now, games are pretty much the only software I DO buy :)
[05:30] <emptystapler> and this is speaking as a professional software developer!
[05:30] <Ayiden> cedega is getting better but its not perfect
[05:30] <kadaj> who play rakion
[05:31] <Ayiden> emptystapler: what have you worked on?
[05:31] <emptystapler> nothing open source :)
[05:31] <Ayiden> emptystapler: well what commercial things then *(lol)
[05:31] <emptystapler> i've been out of college and programming in various stuff for about 3 years now, mostly MS .NET (ha ha!) and now Java
[05:31] <Snake__> emptystapler: Black comb is what i'm waiting for
[05:31] <Snake__> I cannot wait for that OS
[05:32] <Ayiden> MS.net...
[05:32] <emptystapler> C# is a hell of a language, actually
[05:32] <Snake__> all the R & D they put into it...should be ggood
[05:32] <Snake__> good*
[05:32] <Ayiden> Im just getting into C
[05:32] <Snake__> Oh god C
[05:32] <Snake__> I tried to teach myself that
[05:32] <emptystapler> in 24 hours?
[05:32] <Ayiden> C is fun.. I want to learn C++ though
[05:32] <emptystapler> nothing about C is fun, lol
[05:32] <Snake__> I wanted to learn C++
[05:32] <Snake__> But man...
[05:33] <Snake__> :)
[05:33] <Snake__> Hey what do I do if I cant get a window to close?
[05:33] <emptystapler> I've been getting into Python lately (well, just to use Jython)... that's a fun and simple language
[05:33] <Snake__> atlantik wont shutdown
[05:33] <Hobbsee> Snake__: alt+esc
[05:33] <Hobbsee> or alt+f2, xkill, click on offending window
[05:33] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:33] <Ayiden> emptystapler: I make it fun.. I remember I have made some pretty interesting programs.. I still have trouble getting things right though . and I hate when I type fast and end up leaving out a ; or ""
[05:34] <Snake__> Haha xkill rocks
[05:34] <Snake__> Hobbsee: do you just sit here all day just lurking?
[05:34] <McScruff> when compileing how can i make it use the latest autoconf and not the default
[05:34] <Ayiden> emptystapler: is flash difficult.. I know java looks so intimidating
[05:34] <Snake__> Until someone jumps in with a question?
[05:34] <Snake__> FLASH!!
[05:34] <emptystapler> Flash? ActionScript?
[05:34] <Snake__> ARGH
[05:34] <Ayiden> flash seems hard too
[05:35] <emptystapler> flash isn't really related to java
[05:35] <Snake__> That is the single hardest language ever
[05:35] <Ayiden> C is so simple main()
[05:35] <Snake__> IMHO
[05:35] <Snake__> I need something to do
[05:35] <Snake__> What can I screw up in kubuntu...
[05:35] <Ayiden> FLASH looked difficult...
[05:35] <Snake__> :-D
[05:35] <Hobbsee> Snake__: well, i'm on holidays at the moment, and i'm lurking over around 5 chats, playing solitare
[05:35] <emptystapler> install dapper 2
[05:35] <Ayiden> if it isnt maybe ill try it
[05:35] <McScruff> snake, you can help me :)
[05:35] <Hobbsee> compiling the odd bits and pieces too
[05:36] <Snake__> McScruff: I doubt I can but I can try
[05:36] <Snake__> whats up?
[05:36] <emptystapler> firefox looks tragically out of place in KDE
[05:36] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: it doesnt compile with a qt engine
[05:36] <Ayiden> I USE OPERA
[05:36] <emptystapler> using its own widgets and crap
[05:36] <emptystapler> yeah
[05:36] <Snake__> I use konqore
[05:36] <Ayiden> opera is nice
[05:36] <emptystapler> it blends in in windows very well
[05:36] <Snake__> whats wrong with it?
[05:36] <McScruff> snake_ , trying to compile but its useing the defauly autoconf, even tho a newer one is on there
[05:37] <Snake__> Nope no idea
[05:37] <emptystapler> I won't even touch Konq until I can figure out how to make middle mouse button close tabs :)
[05:37] <Ayiden> konguor... cant get java running in it properly
[05:37] <McScruff> lol
[05:37] <Snake__> Sorryz
[05:37] <McScruff> Hobbsee can u help
[05:37] <McScruff> i know ur a pro
[05:37] <Snake__> Hobbsee is good for help
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Snake__: you dont really want to
[05:37] <emptystapler> and then there's adblock, sessionsaver, flashblock, greasemonkey...
[05:37] <Hobbsee> what do you need?
[05:37] <Snake__> lol
[05:37] <Ayiden> McScruff: what are you trying to compile?
[05:37] <Ayiden> lol
[05:38] <McScruff> Ayiden Amarok from svn
[05:38] <Ayiden> eeeck
[05:38] <Ayiden> what does the install readme say?
[05:38] <Snake__> "You suck"
[05:38] <McScruff> im doing it right, done it many times on other distros
[05:38] <Snake__> :)
[05:38] <McScruff> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[05:38] <McScruff> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[05:38] <Snake__> "Step 1. Give up"
[05:38] <Ayiden> compiling is very simple.. but you wont be able to monitor it with deb packaging and upgrades are a little more time consuming
[05:38] <emptystapler> lol
[05:39] <McScruff> Ayiden, u will if after make i do a checkinstall :)
[05:39] <Hobbsee> McScruff: apt-cache search autoconf
[05:39] <Snake__> How come no one needs to complie in windows?
[05:39] <Ayiden> McScruff: okay.. thats what I use aswell
[05:39] <Snake__> JW
[05:39] <Snake__> Is it precomplied?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> Snake__: yeah, that's the idea
[05:39] <Snake__> ahhh I see
[05:39] <Hobbsee> so you get buggered installers, so you have to manually get the files out to do anything
[05:39] <McScruff> Hobbsee, i have version 2.59 on there
[05:40] <Ayiden> McScruff: or I make my own but anyway did you try to install autoconf
[05:40] <McScruff> ayiden, i have version 2.59 on there
[05:40] <Ayiden> you should already have it tho..
[05:40] <Ayiden> yes I know you should have
[05:40] <Hobbsee> just try sudo apt-get install autoconf
[05:40] <Hobbsee> and see if it continues to whinge
[05:41] <McScruff> i DO have it , autoconf --version tells me
[05:41] <McScruff> Hobbsee, tried that
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[05:41] <Ayiden> yes big hmm
[05:42] <McScruff> if u want u can compile it and package it :P
[05:42] <Hobbsee> autotools-dev?
[05:42] <emptystapler> why can't those gaim jerks supply debs?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> me?
[05:42] <emptystapler> thousands of rpm releases and... a tarball
[05:42] <Snake__> ANyone know how to change that "K" in the corner?
[05:42] <emptystapler> gah! this kubuntu install doesn't even have gcc
[05:42] <Snake__> To something I want
[05:42] <Ayiden> you could forse it but it may not work right
[05:42] <Ayiden> um
[05:42] <Hobbsee> Snake__: yes, replace the image /usr/share/icons/apps/kmenu.png
[05:42] <Ayiden> Snake__: yes
[05:42] <Hobbsee> or something close to that
[05:42] <Snake__> kk thanks :)
[05:42] <RedRose> my screen res is at 800x600 and 75Hz and the font is toooo small, why?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> might have missed a folder
[05:42] <McScruff> [04:43]  <Hobbsee> autotools-dev? <<still the same
[05:43] <RedRose> using KDE
[05:43] <Ayiden> Ayiden: or you can always use kbfx
[05:43] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[05:43] <Hobbsee> McScruff: link to what you're compiling?
[05:43] <McScruff> Redrose, change the font size then
[05:43] <Ayiden> Snake__: you could try kbfx
[05:43] <Snake__> Ayiden: explain?
[05:43] <RedRose> lol, McScruff:How?
[05:43] <Ayiden> Snake__: its getting better .. get it a kde-look
[05:43] <emptystapler> oh crap. there's no category list thing in Adept? i need to track down all the individual packages that may be required to compile an app?
[05:43] <McScruff> Hobbsee http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Installation_HowTo#Building_SVN_amaroK
[05:44] <McScruff> RedRose - somewhere in Kcontrol has the option
[05:44] <Snake__> Ayiden: wtf??
[05:44] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, it's automake that usually screws up, isnt it?
[05:44] <Ayiden> Snake__: kbfx is a special app that can give you a nice k start like windows has only better and easily configured through the system settings
[05:44] <McScruff> Hobbsee , its gheyyyyyyyyy
[05:45] <Snake__> I just want to change teh lil k
[05:45] <Snake__> lol
[05:45] <Snake__> Is it in the repos?
[05:45] <McScruff> Hobbsee , every other distro compiled 1st time but this noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, it makes me work
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Snake__: which version did you want?  there's 1.3.7 on kubuntu site
[05:45] <emptystapler> talk to you guys later!
[05:45] <Hobbsee> cya emptystapler
[05:45] <Snake__> Peace emptystapler
[05:45] <Hobbsee> McScruff:  which version did you want?  there's 1.3.7 on kubuntu site
[05:45] <Hobbsee> wrong person lol
[05:46] <McScruff> Hobbsee , need svn, coz in 1.3.7 the lyrics tab no longer works
[05:46] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[05:46] <Ayiden> Snake__: go here http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=24898
[05:46] <McScruff> Hobbsee , if possible you could make a package for me :)
[05:47] <Hobbsee> mmm....i could
[05:47] <Snake__> man my PC is lagging to shit
[05:48] <Snake__> Oh
[05:48] <Snake__> My god Ayiden
[05:48] <Snake__> I said change the K
[05:48] <Snake__> Not install XP
[05:48] <McScruff> Hobbsee, i dont blame ya
[05:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:48] <McScruff> Hobbsee, lyrics tab dont work tho
[05:49] <Ayiden> Snake__: DONT use the menu!!!
[05:49] <Ayiden> only the K start thing
[05:49] <Ayiden> and there are other themes
[05:49] <swim> swim
[05:49] <McScruff> I DID IT
[05:49] <McScruff> IM A FUCKING STAR
[05:49] <Hobbsee> McScruff: yay!
[05:49] <Ayiden> linspire, suse, and many other distros use variations of kbfx
[05:49] <McScruff> i installed every version of auto make :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> Ayiden: i thought i answered that ages ago...on how to change the pic on the kmenu
[05:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> that works
[05:50] <Snake__> lol Hobbsee
[05:50] <Ayiden> ha ha yes but kbfx allows you to add the mouse over effect he he
[05:50] <Snake__> ...
[05:50] <Ayiden> and configure through system settings ha ha
[05:50] <Snake__> zomg
[05:50] <Snake__> lol
[05:51] <McScruff> do i do checkinstall instead of make or instead of make install?
[05:51] <Snake__> Hey thats right!! Hobbsee is a chick!! She was the only girl that wasn't all like "OMG LIK I GO7 TEH LINUX!! *GIGGLE*
[05:51] <Snake__> er
[05:51] <Snake__> Sorry...revolation
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:52] <Ayiden> I didnt know that
[05:52] <Ayiden> ha ha
[05:52] <Hobbsee> you were lucky i wasnt drinking anything - otherwise i would have made you come clean up my keyboard from laughing too hard!
[05:52] <Snake__> Heh
[05:52] <Snake__> I just remebered
[05:53] <Snake__> Like I was in here a while ago when I first installed kubuntu...and I found out then...
[05:53] <Snake__> lol
[05:53] <Ayiden> ...wonders to self "what hobbsee look like..."
[05:53] <Snake__> Typical male...
[05:53] <Ayiden> "*(lol)
[05:53] <Hobbsee> very much a typical male...
[05:54] <Snake__> Find out theres a female nearby and their like "W00T!! Weres teh n4k3d pix!!"
[05:54] <Snake__> Hobbsee: got n3kid pix?!
[05:54] <Hobbsee> yes, exactly
[05:54] <Hobbsee> and no
[05:54] <Hobbsee> not online
[05:54] <Snake__> lol
[05:54] <Snake__> u suld g3t sum
[05:54] <Ayiden> im not your typicle male.. i was always the one that got made fn of because he wouldnt look at the so called "hot chick" because I felt that it was wrong...
[05:55] <Snake__> lol Ayiden
[05:55] <Ayiden> I did.. horibble childhood memories
[05:55] <Hobbsee> lol
[05:55] <McScruff> coz u dated fat chicks?
[05:55] <Snake__> ya same here, I dont do it because I prefer a girl with personality and intelligence over a "hott" ditz
[05:56] <Snake__> And Hobbsee is sitting there shaking her head at this whole conversation
[05:56] <Snake__> :D
[05:56] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:56] <Hobbsee> rolling my eyes, actually
[05:56] <Ayiden> McScruff: ... no i never dated any "chicks" it seemed that every girl worth dating was attracted the the worst jerks
[05:56] <McScruff> :O
[05:57] <Snake__> Ayiden, the nice guy finishes last ;)
[05:57] <Snake__> I'm a bit of an asshole...when I need to be
[05:57] <Ayiden> now I am though.. I have been going to with my g/f for 2 years.. and I seem to have stumbled upon a "hot" girl thats NOT a ditz
[05:57] <Ayiden> she is brunett
[05:58] <Ayiden> not blonde *(lol)
[05:58] <Ayiden> anyway
[05:58] <Snake__> Ya my ex was like that, shes hot, and smart as hell...but her opinions...ugh
[05:58] <Snake__> But aw well
[05:58] <Snake__> Life goes on
[05:58] <Snake__> Back to kubuntu
[05:58] <bimberi> ubotflu: wb
[05:58] <ubotflu> bimberi: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:59] <Snake__> Altho I must ask, Hobbsee do you roll your eyes at your PC often?
[05:59] <Snake__> I bet that looks great to the people nearby :)
[05:59] <Ayiden> yes why DID you roll your eyes?
[06:00] <Ayiden> do you seem to find yourself with jerks all the time like so many other girls?
[06:00] <Tm_T> err
[06:00] <Snake__> Ayiden:  are you e-flirting?,,,,
[06:00] <Snake__> Haha nice bimberi
[06:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:00] <Hobbsee> bimberi: yes, and i have ops there...so that could be good...
[06:01] <Snake__> w00 for ops
[06:01] <bimberi> Hobbsee: and here too (iirc)
[06:01] <Ayiden> Snake__: no, just asking simple questions expecting complex answers
[06:01] <Tm_T> what?
[06:01] <Snake__> lol
[06:01] <seth_k|lappy> what what?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> bimberi: i dont think i have ops here, unless it changed
[06:01] <Hobbsee> i'd love to have ops here though
[06:02] <seth_k|lappy> no, Hobbsee doesn't.
[06:02] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, are you an Ubuntu member yet? That's when Riddell offered me ops
[06:02] <Tm_T> always fun to show superman suit under this nerd outfit ;-P
[06:02] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: as in, signed the coc on launchpad?
[06:02] <bimberi> ah, i thought i saw "Topic for #kubuntu set by Hobbsee" once (must have been elsewhere)
[06:02] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, no, that's an Ubuntero. I mean approved by the CC as a full Member
[06:03] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:03] <seth_k|lappy> bimberi, anybody can set the topic on this channel, it's not +T
[06:03] <Hobbsee> not sure
[06:03] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, if you haven't gone to a meeting and run the gauntlet, you haven't :P
[06:03] <Ayiden> YAY
[06:03] <seth_k|lappy> you'd know if you had
[06:03] <Tm_T> ok, off for a week, see ya o/ ->
[06:04] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: hehe
[06:04] <seth_k|lappy> bye Jussi
[06:05] <Snake__> Hobbsee: I cant seem to find the folder that holds that file
[06:05] <Snake__> the file /usr/share/icons/apps/kmenu.png
[06:06] <Hobbsee> Snake__: locate kmenu.png
[06:06] <Hobbsee> in a console
[06:06] <seth_k|lappy> there has to be something in between /icons and /apps
[06:06] <seth_k|lappy> like /hicolor/ or /nuvola/
[06:06] <seth_k|lappy> and then a size also, like 96x96/
[06:06] <Ayiden> okay well time for me to traverse the stairs and carpet to bed wow I am tired.... nite everyone
[06:07] <Snake__> c ya
[06:07] <Snake__> Hmmm now...which size is it
[06:07] <Snake__> 48x48?
[06:07] <seth_k|lappy> how many rows of applications show up in your panel?
[06:08] <seth_k|lappy> (on the taskbar part)
[06:08] <Snake__> 2
[06:08] <Snake__> its default
[06:08] <Hobbsee> ah, that's it...
[06:08] <seth_k|lappy> 32x32 then
[06:08] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: i knew i forgot some of them!
[06:08] <Snake__> ok
[06:09] <swim> hrmm trying to compile this style ... but dont really know where to start: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23620&forummode=2&forumpage=2&forumexplevel=0&forumthread=108904#c112874   (but from source)
[06:09] <Snake__> for anyone wondering (cough cough Hobbsee) its /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/SIZE/apps/kmenu.png
[06:09] <Hobbsee> yeah, i've realised that now
[06:09] <Snake__> :)
[06:10] <Hobbsee> with tab completion, copying the file myself, i would have remembered that
[06:10] <Snake__> Ofcouurrrseee
[06:10] <Snake__> not that im doubting you
[06:10] <Snake__> :)
[06:10] <seth_k|lappy> bleh, this sucks... I'm having to convert an emoticon theme from one format to another
[06:10] <seth_k|lappy> so instead of smile.png :) :-), it has to be <emoticon file="smile.png"><string>:)</string><string>:-)</string>
[06:11] <swim> anyone?
[06:11] <seth_k|lappy> I'm sure there's a cool program that would let me do some $1 $2 $3 magic, but I have no clue what
[06:11] <Snake__> that sux
[06:14] <Snake__> huh?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> !tell swim about compile
[06:15] <swim> !tell swim about compile
[06:16] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[06:16] <Hobbsee> !compile
[06:16] <ubotflu> see compiling
[06:16] <Hobbsee> !compiling
[06:16] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:16] <Hobbsee> weird
[06:16] <Snake__> LOL what a smart ass
[06:16] <Hobbsee> wiki.ubuntu.com/compile
[06:16] <Hobbsee> should show something
[06:19] <DJ_Mer_> how'd it go _nano_
[06:20] <Snake__> sup _nano_
[06:20] <_nano_> Hey guys! :)
[06:20] <Snake__> wo I just taught my self how to rename files
[06:20] <Snake__> I love apropos
[06:20] <Snake__> apropos + man = N00bs best friend
[06:20] <_peter_> hey, i think i have a decently simple question that i am just banging my head against..  when configure for any source code i am trying to compile, i get
[06:21] <_peter_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=glibc&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[06:21] <_peter_> damn, wrong paste :(
[06:21] <_peter_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:21] <_peter_> but i have gcc-4.0 installed without any issues
[06:22] <_peter_> does that error stick out to anyone as a gcc issue, or am i going in the completely wrong direction?
[06:22] <Hobbsee> do you need gcc3.4 as well?
[06:23] <Hobbsee> or is there a gcc-4.0-dev or something?
[06:23] <Hobbsee> use apt-cache search gcc
[06:23] <seth_k|lappy> eeee, look at me: ^[\w] +(\.png|\.gif)([\t] +[\S] +)+
[06:23] <seth_k|lappy> behold the smiley theme parser!
[06:23] <seth_k|lappy> :P
[06:23] <_peter_> well, i had gcc-4.0 installed, but then i went ahead and did an apt-get for gcc-3.4 (which i believe installed over 4.0)
[06:23] <Hobbsee> hmm
[06:23] <_peter_> just to check.. and i'm still getting the error
[06:23] <Hobbsee> ask in #ubuntu if you get no answer here
[06:24] <_peter_> will do. Thanks Hobbsee
[06:24] <_peter_> its just a fresh kubuntu install
[06:25] <Snake__> Sweet
[06:25] <Snake__> I got a custom Kmenu button :)
[06:25] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:25] <swim> oh Hobbsee I know how to compile for the most part, if it's a simple ./configure make checinstall or make install, but this is not ... those although the INSTALL instructions say it is...
[06:26] <Snake__> Theres to man "K"s in KDE...so I threw in a S :)
[06:26] <Snake__> to many*
[06:26] <Hobbsee> swim: try using checkinstall - it's much easier
[06:26] <Hobbsee> !checkinstall
[06:26] <ubotflu> checkinstall is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[06:26] <Snake__> Hobbsee: did you notice that KDE seems to control everything in KDE by default?
[06:27] <Snake__> Kthis Kthat
[06:27] <swim> Hobbsee: ... that;s what I said though I accidentally mispelled it checinstall...
[06:27] <Hobbsee> oh, i missed that
[06:29] <Snake__> Work? Its like 1 am (here)
[06:30] <Hobbsee> 4.30pm here
[06:30] <_peter_> Hey Hobbsee, i've gotten a bit farther in the compilation i'm doing, and i think i hit a kubuntu specific problem. anything ring a bell with:
[06:31] <_peter_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:31] <Hobbsee> !xincludes
[06:31] <ubotflu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[06:32] <_peter_> cool, will do. Thanks
[06:32] <Hobbsee> no problems
[06:33] <Hobbsee> bye all!
[06:33] <Snake__> By Hobbsee
[06:33] <Snake__> bye**
[06:33] <Snake__> lol
[06:35] <_peter_> does anyone know what the qt headers and library packages are?
[06:36] <Snake__> No sir
[06:37] <_peter_> :).. that certainly appears to be the case
[06:37] <Snake__> :)
[06:41] <swim> i need to install automake... should I install the latest version? 1.9 ?
[06:53] <Snake__> lol
[06:53] <Snake__> Dude my text is huge
[06:53] <Snake__> wtf
[06:54] <_peter_> looks normal to me
[06:55] <_peter_> anyone know what the package name of the kde header files is
[07:57] <TK422> hey everyone
[07:59] <TK422> anyone alive in here?
[08:14] <Steven_M> Does anyone here know anything about the bug fix that stops the administrator mode from breaking?
[08:15] <AA|monsterb1969> Hi - anyone know of a easy to use programming language like RealBasic(does not work in 64bit) or Gambas (does not work in 64bit) for Linux AMD64??
[08:20] <_nano_> AA|monsterb1969: is RealBasic somewhat like basic?
[08:20] <_nano_> AA|monsterb1969: it's been ages since I coded in basic tho...*trip down the memory lane*
[08:22] <AA|monsterb1969> _nano: RealBasic is like Visual Basic ... very easy to use GUI .. look of dragging and dropping ... very little programming
[08:28] <AA|monsterb1969> _nano_: RealBasic is like Visual Basic ... very easy to use GUI .. look of dragging and dropping ... very little programming
[08:28] <_nano_> AA|monsterb1969: aah, i see
[08:55] <Netslayer> how do i get kde 3.5 in ubuntu? when i open up synaptic, search for kde (kubuntu) the 3.4.3 is the only available one
[08:55] <Netslayer> i have 3.4.3 kubuntu installed
[08:55] <crimsun_> it helps if you read the topic.
[08:55] <kkathman> 3.4.3 is the one thats the most stable
[08:55] <kkathman> thats why
[08:56] <Netslayer> heh
[08:57] <kkathman> if you are a tinkerer...and want to put up with some apps not quite acting right, you can install kubuntu-desktop, then go to kde.org or kubuntu.org and follow the upgrade instructions to 3.5 tho
[08:57] <Netslayer> ok i'll look around kubuntus site
[08:57] <Netslayer> i run 3.5 on gentoo and i love it, laptop needs kubuntu 3.5
[09:00] <DJ_Mer_> _nano_away:
[09:02] <Kimppa> Hello. What software would you recommend for watching dvds?
[09:02] <Netslayer> xine
[09:04] <TooSad> hi
[09:04] <TooSad> why if i write sudo kate i have this error: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-loviggi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[09:04] <TooSad> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[09:04] <TooSad> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[09:05] <Kimppa> Netslayer: the problem with xine is that I'm not able to click on menus
[09:11] <nrdb> I have gotten efax working but I cant do a print to the 'print to fax' printer.  can anyone help?
[09:26] <nrdb> I am trying to setup the KDE for faxing what does the message in /var/log/cups/error_log "get_jobs: resource name '/printers/Send to Fax' no good!" mean? I can do faxing by using efax-gtk.
[09:39] <robin_2> hi
[09:39] <robin_2> how stable are the kde 3.5 packages ?
[09:40] <M_Cheevy> robin_2: so far so good
[09:40] <robin_2> ok, If I get problems, I can switch back ?
[09:41] <M_Cheevy> not so sure about that..... only cause I haven't tried
[09:41] <holycow> hi guys
[09:42] <holycow> anyone here use task juggler? how do you start it? i don't see a file in /usr/bin ... ?
[09:43] <robin_2> robin@kubuntu:~$ which taskjuggler
[09:43] <robin_2> /usr/bin/taskjuggler
[09:44] <robin_2> I do not' know If I have installed it from sources or from apt.
[09:44] <robin_2> but I'm not using it either.
[09:44] <holycow> lol i was about to ask
[09:44] <holycow> i downloaded rpm and converted with alien
[09:44] <holycow> it ended up in some strange place and refused to startup
[09:45] <holycow> *hmmm*
[09:46] <holycow> ah looks like you must of compiled from source interesting
[09:46] <holycow> okay thx :)
[09:46] <robin_2> hmm, I think I followed instruction from linux magazine some months ago :)
[09:48] <robin_2> holycow: check it out : http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/38/TaskJuggler.pdf
[09:49] <holycow> ah!
[09:49] <holycow> thx!
[09:49] <robin_2> although that's an old one.. maybe it helps :)
[09:53] <robin_2> I don't know How I did it, but I'm running a java 32bit VM in kubuntu 64bit, without chroot.
[09:53] <holycow> *nod* neat, well just wanna check it out
[09:54] <holycow> gnome project manager thingy isn't progressing very fast at all
[09:58] <DarkMaul> hello all
[09:59] <DarkMaul> Tm_T : ping
[10:00] <dragonkh> hello
[10:00] <DarkMaul> iam a new kubuntu user, and i have a issue with the installation'
[10:01] <DarkMaul> i have a Intel P4 3.2 with hyper threading
[10:01] <dragonkh> if im user x on local and I copy my public ssh key to the .ssh of remote user y - will that work ?
[10:01] <dragonkh> or do both users have to be trhe same ?
[10:02] <DarkMaul> to enable HT i need to install a smp kernel, but when i install the smp kernel, kubuntu freezes
[10:03] <robin_2> holycow: TaskJugller IDE looks nice, but all data have to be entered as text in an embedded editor.. no click and play... too bad.
[10:04] <holycow> oh really?
[10:04] <holycow> :/
[10:04] <holycow> not much use then
[10:05] <robin_2> that's why I'm not using it..
[10:06] <robin_2> maybe there is a new version which works better
[10:06] <robin_2> you should try the source http://www.taskjuggler.org/download.php
[10:07] <DarkMaul> is there a ubuntu guru about ?
[10:07] <holycow> i had some problems with make asking for missing targets ... gonna give it a try later
[10:07] <holycow> the screen shots looked good tho :)
[10:07] <robin_2> indeed
[10:09] <robin_2> DarkMaul: what's the problem?
[10:10] <robin_2> oh I see HT..
[10:10] <robin_2> don't know, i'm a happy amd user :)
[10:10] <DarkMaul> lol
[10:10] <DarkMaul> i used to run suse
[10:11] <DarkMaul> and never seen any troubles like this\
[10:12] <holycow> they you haven't used suse long enough
[10:12] <holycow> -_-
[10:12] <holycow> btw
[10:13] <holycow> what does hyperthreading haveto do with an sshkey?
[10:13] <DarkMaul> problems like this... that was the only thing that workd
[10:13] <holycow> oh thats a separate question
[10:13] <DarkMaul> sshkey ??
[10:14] <Chousuke> including Debian of course
[10:14] <DarkMaul> well
[10:14] <Chousuke> Maybe I should try some other distros too, someday ;P
[10:14] <holycow> linux-image-686-smp  <-- you installed this kernel DarkMaul ?
[10:14] <Chousuke> Just for the experience.
[10:14] <DarkMaul> yes, iam reinstalling it now
[10:14] <DarkMaul> uhmm the kernel that is
[10:15] <DarkMaul> and crashhhhh !!!!!!!!
[10:15] <holycow> for kernel related issues it is much more likely that you will find an answer via google rather than here tho
[10:15] <holycow> it's a fairly complex situation to debug
[10:16] <Chousuke> DarkMaul: At which point does it crash, and how exactly?
[10:16] <DarkMaul> well the machine boots
[10:16] <DarkMaul> then KDE comes up
[10:16] <Chousuke> Oh, so it gets that far.
[10:17] <Chousuke> Hmm
[10:17] <DarkMaul> and when i click at the start button
[10:17] <DarkMaul> the screen kinda crashes
[10:17] <DarkMaul> and my mouse keeps working
[10:17] <Chousuke> You mean X goes haywire? does Ctrl-alt-bspace work?
[10:18] <DarkMaul> nope
[10:18] <DarkMaul> x goes haywire indeed
[10:18] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:18] <DarkMaul> but only when installing my smp kernel
[10:18] <Chousuke> are you using binary drivers? ;P
[10:19] <DarkMaul> it is a fresh install
[10:19] <Chousuke> oh, so free ones.
[10:19] <Chousuke> okay. hmm.
[10:20] <DarkMaul> hehe iam really iritated by this isseu
[10:21] <Chousuke> Enabling HT won't give you that much more performance on the desktop anyway.
[10:21] <Chousuke> Of course, it depends on what you're doing.
[10:21] <DarkMaul> when using GIMP it gives me much preformance
[10:22] <DarkMaul> could it be my Graphical driver
[10:22] <DarkMaul> is there a way to run adapt in a concole
[10:22] <Chousuke> Well, sounds like there's some code related to X that doesn't like SMP
[10:23] <Chousuke> DarkMaul: not Adept, but you can use aptitude
[10:23] <DarkMaul> i really need to do a hard reset
[10:40] <robin_2> kde 3.5 seems to work :)
[10:40] <robin_2> looks nice
[10:42] <Xemanth^> robin_2: :)
[10:42] <dclindsay> what a difference the nvidia drivers make
[10:42] <dclindsay> amazing
[10:42] <dclindsay> bzflag never looked so good
[10:50] <robin_2> lol never played bzflag..
[10:50] <robin_2> it's cool :)
[10:53] <dclindsay> nod
[11:00] <canllaith> hey, has anyone in here setup kolab on kubuntu recently?
[11:00] <Jae> Howdy. Quick query: Does anyone know if Kubuntu is compatible with wireless? I assume it is... but is it out-of-the-box or do I have to do a bunch to get it working?
[11:03] <MrMazda> brand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?
[11:04] <_nano_> !wifi
[11:04] <ubotflu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:23] <Jochen> Hallo people!
[11:23] <Jochen> I am a ubuntu newbie and I love to tell you it is a wonderfull linux system
[11:23] <Jochen> Perhaps, I will distribute it here in Egypt!
[11:24] <Xemanth^> heyea
[11:24] <Jochen> Even though I am facing some problems.
[11:24] <Xemanth^> what problems do you have ?
[11:24] <Jochen> well, i think it is lacked to my know how more, but I want the package dazuko to run!
[11:25] <Jochen> Or firehol, a linux easy setup firewall package
[11:25] <Jochen> But the main thing, that made me angry was that the mysql5 packages were not available.
[11:26] <Jochen> mysql5, mysql5-max and that the latest php 5.1.1 and apache 2.5.5 were not in the package reposity not available to download.
[11:26] <Jochen> But I want to say, other packages like the firefox 1.5 are extremest strable (binary download), not like on gentoo
[11:27] <Jochen> I am a gentoo person... since 2 days I use kubuntu
[11:28] <_nano_> Jochen: wow you're from egypt? man! i would so love to see those pyramids
[11:31] <Jochen> My father is Egyptian and my mom from Germany.
[11:31] <Jochen> I was grown up in Germany, but now I am for a while here.
[11:32] <Jochen> ubuntu is really cool! Only that my packages are missing. Perhaps I have to learn doing my own debian packages
[11:32] <Jochen> By the way, I went on the kubuntu site, how do I update kde?!
[11:32] <Jochen> the command "deb" is missing on my system
[11:32] <Jochen> :(
[11:33] <_nano_> Jochen: you want to update to kde 3.5?
[11:36] <Jochen> yes
[11:36] <Jochen> How do I do that?! I looked on the page, and I imported the key. But the other part....
[11:37] <Jochen> This command: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[11:37] <Jochen> doesn't work
[11:38] <bimberi> Jochen: you add that line to the file /etc/apt/sources.list, then update repositories and upgrade kde
[11:41] <Jochen2> How can I update kde?! Can somebody help me in this?!
[11:42] <StarScream> Jochen2: see the link aboe
[11:42] <StarScream> above
[11:42] <StarScream> the one that says kde 3.5 is out
[11:43] <StarScream> in the topic
[11:43] <Jochen2> but the program "deb" is not on my system
[11:44] <Jochen2> to which package does it belong to, which I have to install
[11:44] <bimberi> Jochen2: you add that line to the file /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[11:44] <Jochen2> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:44] <Jochen2> okay
[11:44] <bimberi> Jochen: then cross fingers and have a beer :)
[11:46] <Jochen2> can I run the sudo aptitude command from kde or do I have to enter the console mode that no problems appear?!
[11:47] <Jochen2> see you.
[11:47] <Jochen2> bye
[11:50] <bimberi> Jochen: from an xterm would be ok
[11:51] <tico> hello does kubuntu has a Community Newsletter for suscribers or something like that?
[11:53] <bimberi> tico: there is "The Fridge" - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[11:54] <mrj> hi
[11:54] <mrj> could you help me
[11:54] <tico> do you send it to the e-mail of the suscribers or just in the website?
[11:55] <mrj> how can i see the path to the current dir in Linux ?
[11:56] <bimberi> mrj: echo $PWD
[11:56] <mrj> :)
[11:56] <mrj> what else
[11:57] <mrj> how is the PWS Variable set ?
[11:57] <bimberi> tico: hm, no it doesn't have an RSS feed, there's also various mailing lists - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[11:57] <mrj> bimberi:  ?
[11:58] <bimberi> mrj: by the shell
[11:58] <mrj> yep but HOW ?
[11:58] <bimberi> mrj: how about echo $(pwd)
[11:58] <bimberi> mrj: that's using the command itself
[11:58] <Xemanth^> mrj: are you dude from qnet?
[11:59] <mrj> Xemanth from where ?:)
[11:59] <mrj> bimberi: i need to know how is that made
[11:59] <Xemanth^> mrj: quakenet = qnet
[11:59] <mrj> ich i type echo $PWD i just use a szstem set Variable
[11:59] <mrj> but how is that Variable set ?
[11:59] <Xemanth^> i guess not :)
[12:00] <mrj> it was used some kind of command
[12:00] <bimberi> mrj: i don't know sorry
[12:00] <mrj> Xemanth no i am not from ... qnet :)
[12:00] <Xemanth^> heh
[12:00] <mrj> bimberi:  ok thanks  :)
[12:01] <bimberi> mrj: perhaps someting in the coding of the cd command (guessing)?
[12:02] <mrj> bimberi: i have it - pwd
[12:02] <mrj> :)
[12:02] <mrj> it was simple
[12:03] <mrj> hahahaha
[12:03] <mrj> :) :) :)
[12:03] <mrj> the variable $PWD was set probably with export PWD=pwd
[12:03] <mrj> :)
[12:03] <tico> bimberi: if i join kubuntu_users can i receive information about new releases and things like that?
[12:03] <bimberi> mrj: no, then it would never change
[12:04] <_roman> hi, has anybody had problems with the kttsd package in KDE 3.5? English works, Czech is dysfunctional. I've filed a bug at KDE, but it seems it's specifically the kubuntu package... Where can I file for kubuntu?
[12:04] <mrj> it is set every time
[12:04] <mrj> when one uses cd i suppose
[12:04] <mrj> when one uses cd i think
[12:05] <bimberi> tico: yes, although i think that will be fairly high traffic - as a help list
[12:05] <tico> ok
[12:05] <bimberi> mrj: yes i guess so (but have lost all credibility with this thread :) )
[12:05] <tico> bimberi: thanks a lot
[12:05] <tico> see ya
[12:29] <DarkMaul> ne body in
[12:31] <_nano_> DarkMaul: whats up!
[12:44] <TooSad> how can i comprime a folder in tar? tar ....?
[12:49] <Insomniac-> man tar
[12:58] <robin_2> TooSad: tar -cvzf archive.tgz source_dir/
[01:00] <TooSad> tnx
[01:04] <vendor> hi
[01:05] <TooSad> and bzip2 archive.tgz
[01:05] <TooSad> make a file.tgz.bz2
[01:05] <TooSad> ?
[01:06] <vendor> is there a reason why there is a kde-latest on kubuntu.org/packages/ but no amarok-latest or koffice-latest?
[01:06] <vendor> where could i suggest such symlinks? i think they'd be really handy.
[01:08] <Hobbsee> vendor: i think they were writing them by version name - eg amarok1.7 or whatever it is
[01:08] <vendor> yeah i know. but for kde35 there is a symlink: kde-latest
[01:08] <vendor> that saves me from changing my sources.list whenever there's a new version.
[01:09] <Hobbsee> true
[01:09] <vendor> so i'm wondering why there is no such symlink amarok-latest -> amarok-1.3.7
[01:12] <vendor> anyone knows who's responsible for these repositories? an email address maybe?
[01:14] <Hobbsee> vendor: Riddell is
[01:14] <vendor> thx
[01:15] <DarkMaul> i really need help, i just installed Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[01:15] <DarkMaul>  but every time i install the SMP kernel my system freezes
[01:17] <Riddell> vendor: done
[01:17] <vendor> wow. amazing. thanks Riddell :)
[01:18] <Hobbsee> hi Riddell
[01:20] <chx> new Kopete is nice and dandy -- but I can't see my MSN contacts
[01:21] <Riddell> morning Hobbsee
[01:21] <chx> hi Riddell
[01:21] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I thought you had ops, but seems not
[01:21] <Hobbsee> *yawns*
[01:22] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i do in #kubuntu-offtopic, but not in #kubuntu
[01:22] <Riddell> Hobbsee: fancy being an op?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> i would like that
[01:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:22] <Riddell> chx: can you get MSN to work at all?
[01:22] <Riddell> any objections to Hobbsee being an op?
[01:22] <chx> Riddell: oh, MSN is working nice
[01:22] <chx> Riddell: I can chat with someone if he starts the chat
[01:22] <chx> Riddell: but I can't start any because I have no MSN contacts to click on
[01:22] <Hobbsee> doesnt look like it!
[01:23] <Hobbsee> :D
[01:23] <nalioth> hang the heavy responsibility around her neck, lol
[01:23] <Hobbsee> hehe - no, i would think that's ops in #ubuntu as well lol!
[01:24] <Hobbsee> :D thanks Riddell!
[01:24] <Riddell> use it wisely :)
[01:24] <Hobbsee> of course :P
[01:25] <Riddell> chx: what version of KDE and kubuntu?
[01:26] <chx> Riddell: KDE 3.5 , kubuntu breezy
[01:27] <chx> the installed KDE 3.5 packages are signed by some rogue called Jonathan Riddell :P
[01:27] <Hobbsee> yeah, dont know if that bloke should be trusted...he might kill our systems :P
[01:28] <Riddell> chx: you could try killing kopete, mv ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc-orig  and restrating kopete setting it up fresh again
[01:30] <anth0ny_> hi! Is it possible to use ubuntulinux's source-o-matic with kubuntu 5.10?
[01:30] <bimberi> anth0ny_: yes you can :)
[01:30] <nalioth> anth0ny_: of course
[01:31] <anth0ny_> thanks
[01:31] <chx> oh a simple kopete restart solved, thanks Riddell
[01:31] <chx> Riddell: if I had the luck to catch you, Dapper will be KDE 3.5 or KDE 4.0?
[01:31] <anth0ny_> how do i update all installed packages with apt-get?
[01:31] <chx> anth0ny_: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:32] <bimberi> anth0ny_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:32] <Riddell> chx: 3.5
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: will we get binary packages of kde4.0 builds, like we did for kde3.5?
[01:33] <Riddell> Hobbsee: yes but 4.0 won't be out for a good while yet
[01:33] <Hobbsee> hehe fair enough - and koffice1.5?
[01:33] <Riddell> yes, should be in dapper hopefully
[01:34] <Hobbsee> excellent - worth trying it out there then
[01:36] <anth0ny_> thanks
[01:36] <anth0ny_> bimberi: isn't dist-upgrade if I wan to upgrade from one version of Kubuntu to another?
[01:37] <bimberi> anth0ny_: yes, but can be used in intermediate times too - the difference being that it will bring in previously uninstalled dependencies if required
[01:38] <anth0ny_> bimberi: but, isn't "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" the smartest way to handle it+
[01:39] <bimberi> anth0ny_: an upgraded package might have a new dependency - which would be missed by "upgrade" (as i understand it)
[01:39] <bimberi> anth0ny_: oh and don't forget 'sudo' :)
[01:41] <anth0ny_> bimberi: seems like your dist-upgrade found more packages to be upgraded than apt-get upgrade, so I will go for your method :-)
[01:41] <anth0ny_> th
[01:41] <anth0ny_> x
[01:41] <bimberi> anth0ny_: k, np :)
[01:44] <Hobbsee> !kops
[01:44] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: Syntax error in line 1
[01:44] <Hobbsee> oops!  wrong window...this bot isnt updating properly though
[01:45] <rev> !wmv
[01:45] <ubotflu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:45] <bimberi> lol
[01:48] <rev> !defoma
[01:48] <ubotflu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rev
[01:48] <rev> me neither
[01:56] <Hobbsee> going to bed - night all!  Thanks for the ops, Riddell!
[01:58] <jdong_> anyone else get crashing artsd, especially after hours of music playback?
[01:59] <jdong_> I've experienced it twice within the past 5 days
[01:59] <burepe> I found a forum post with someone using my same tv tuner card and kubuntu. He managed to get it to work. It is way over my head. Can anyone tale a look at this page and explain this stuff to me.  http://www.flexbeta.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t7604.html
[02:03] <hugelmopf> burepe: have you tried loading the driver yet?
[02:03] <burepe> no. I dont know how to do that
[02:03] <burepe> I dont even know what the driver is or where to find it? on the windows cd?
[02:04] <hugelmopf> burepe: no, it seems to be included with the default kubuntu install. do "sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5"
[02:05] <burepe> ok
[02:05] <burepe> returned
[02:05] <hugelmopf> have you already chosen an application that you want to watch tv with?
[02:05] <burepe> i have 3
[02:05] <burepe> tvtime
[02:06] <hugelmopf> try
[02:06] <burepe> ktv
[02:06] <burepe> kdetv
[02:06] <burepe> and one other
[02:06] <burepe> xawtv
[02:06] <hugelmopf> try xawtv first probably
[02:06] <burepe> ok
[02:07] <hugelmopf> and see if it at least recognizes your device
[02:08] <burepe> I think the device was recognized even with out the driver. I was trying to get it to work before and it was in /syslogs or /mesages or something
[02:08] <burepe> cant remember the path
[02:08] <hugelmopf> so what output does xawtv give?
[02:09] <burepe> checkinig
[02:09] <burepe> well something is messed with the screen
[02:09] <hugelmopf> can you paste it to the pastebin?
[02:09] <burepe> there are like 4 ghost screens of the xawtv gui screen
[02:09] <hugelmopf> ah, ok
[02:09] <burepe> paste what?
[02:10] <hugelmopf> it does open a gui screen?
[02:10] <burepe> yeah
[02:10] <burepe> black as night
[02:10] <burepe> and it has a thing to config
[02:10] <hugelmopf> ok. any output on the console where you started xawtv?
[02:11] <burepe> or something
[02:11] <burepe> i didnt use a console
[02:11] <burepe> hold on
[02:11] <burepe> Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
[02:12] <hugelmopf> that's only a warning, ignore it
[02:12] <burepe> ok
[02:12] <hugelmopf> anything else?
[02:12] <burepe> i am trying kdetv
[02:13] <burepe> i am confused by the settings
[02:13] <burepe> compostite1, television, s-video
[02:13] <burepe> ntsc,pal,secam, auto
[02:14] <burepe> the card can do pal and ntsc
[02:14] <hugelmopf> burepe: i cannot help you with that, you have to know your settings or try out.
[02:14] <burepe> ok
[02:15] <hugelmopf> burepe: what the link you posted is saying, is that the module "saa7134" seems to be correct for your card. if it was loaded automatically, fine. if not, you will have to load it with "sudo modprobe saa7134".
[02:16] <burepe> ok
[02:16] <burepe> so just enter that command if it doesnt work. ok
[02:16] <hugelmopf> burepe: but he suggests to pass options to that, so you might have to unload the module ("sudo rmmod saa7134") and reload it with some option: "sudo modprobe saa7134 card=X tuner=X" where you might want to try different numbers for X
[02:16] <burepe> thanks for your help
[02:17] <burepe> what doe thoes numbers mean?
[02:18] <hugelmopf> i don't know and he does not seem to know either. google or try. for each combination you can then test with one of your tv-programs (xawtv might be best for debugging).
[02:18] <burepe> xawtvs gui is all messed though
[02:19] <hugelmopf> gui won't help you much, but probably the console output.
[02:19] <burepe> ok
[02:19] <hugelmopf> if you find a combination that works, make it permanent by adding the line to /etc/modules: "saa7134 card=X tuner=X"
[02:19] <burepe> thanks alot
[02:19] <hugelmopf> good luck, i have to leave.
[02:19] <burepe> ok
[02:20] <burepe> really thanks
[02:20] <hugelmopf> maybe you can find somebody here, who has more experience with tv-cards
[02:21] <burepe> oh station found!
[02:21] <burepe> the wizard says
[02:21] <burepe> nothing
[02:21] <burepe> ha
[02:24] <_newbie> How do i configure gmail in Fantastik?
[02:29] <_nano_> !fantastik
[02:29] <ubotflu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, _nano_
[02:31] <_nano_> !karamba
[02:31] <ubotflu> _nano_: No idea
[02:42] <rev> !ati
[02:42] <ubotflu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:43] <_newbie> Can someone plz tell me how to configure gmail in Fantastik?
[02:44] <robin_2> what is Fantastik
[02:44] <Xemanth^> fantastic four
[02:45] <_newbie> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=17775
[02:52] <_newbie> Nobody knows?
[02:52] <robin_2> I don't
[02:52] <MrMazda> brand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?
[03:01] <rev> MrMazda: if you got an answer, let me know :)
[03:09] <Kimppa> Hi. I have this weird problem. I used to have a LG DVD+-RW station and I was able to burn normally with it. Now I got myself a new one, Lite On DVD+-RW which should be able to burn at 16x. I'm using K3b to burn my dvd's. In K3b, I select "Auto" as writing speed, then I get a message saying the writing speed is 8x, but it actually burns only at 1x
[03:09] <Kimppa> same problem if I changed "auto" to 4x
[03:09] <Kimppa> it still said "Writing speed 8x" and actual speed is 1x
[03:10] <Kimppa> any ideas? I haven't installed any drivers, that probably is the first thing to do. Is there a way for kubuntu to check my hardware and download new drivers from the repository?
[03:11] <Kimppa> I didn't install any drivers with my previous burner (the LG), altough I had it one when I first installed linux
[03:31] <brendan_> hi
[03:31] <brendan_> has anyone tried the kiosktool with kde3.5
[03:31] <brendan_> menu editing isn't working for me
[03:31] <spirou> hi
[03:40] <igorayeb> Had anyone from brazil here
[03:42] <Snake|Sleeping> Hey guys I need help with KDE 3.5
[03:43] <igorayeb> what i do to upgrade my KDE
[03:43] <Snake__> !KDE
[03:43] <ubotflu> from memory, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:43] <Snake__> Oop
[03:43] <Snake__> !KDE3.5
[03:43] <ubotflu> hmm... kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[03:43] <Snake__> Come on ubotflu ...
[03:43] <Snake__> There
[03:43] <Snake__> igorayeb: go to that site
[03:43] <igorayeb> the synapitic ond upgrade this
[03:44] <Snake__> ?
[03:44] <igorayeb> dont upgrade this
[03:44] <igorayeb> Snake__: the synapitic dont upgrade the current KDE
[03:44] <Snake__> igorayeb: you modify your repo sources right?
[03:45] <igorayeb> right
[03:45] <Snake__> Okay, go to termain do
[03:45] <Snake__> Sudo apt-get update
[03:45] <Snake__> Then
[03:45] <Snake__> Sudo apt-get upgradew
[03:45] <Snake__> No W at the end...
[03:45] <igorayeb> ok
[03:45] <Snake__> Sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:45] <basse> heya. anyone know if there is a music player for kde that can handle itunes shares?
[03:45] <basse> i have rhythmbox but it keeps on crashin
[03:45] <jjesse> have you tried amarok?
[03:46] <igorayeb> but in the ropositorory i have to add this link of the ubuntu page
[03:46] <basse> i have.
[03:46] <basse> jjesse: it doesnt seem to know itunes?
[03:46] <Snake__> Okay did you add it??
[03:46] <Snake__> igorayeb:
[03:46] <jjesse> i was just asking, i don't know for sure :)
[03:46] <igorayeb> i gondo now.
[03:46] <igorayeb> i gona do now ok
[03:46] <[-SiO-] > anyone had any issues with a Linsys WPC11 pcmcia card?
[03:46] <Snake__> ok
[03:47] <igorayeb> [-SiO-] : i use wireless PCMCIA in the notebook can i help you
[03:47] <Snake__> [-SiO-] : Everyone has problems with every wireless card, they are the hardest things to set up next o a video card
[03:47] <Snake__> I too use PCMCIA wireless, but it was not easy at all to set up
[03:47] <[-SiO-] > lol
[03:48] <igorayeb> Snake__: here the Kubuntu add the my pcmcia hisself
[03:48] <Snake__> Ah lucky bastard
[03:48] <igorayeb> but you had to search the madwifi
[03:48] <Snake__> I had to ndiswrapper an driver detect and all kinds of dumb crap
[03:48] <igorayeb> case the system no detect
[03:48] <igorayeb> Snake__: i sugest the madwifi.... my PCMCIA is one D-link
[03:49] <Snake__> igorayeb: you know how to add things to your repos with out sypnatic right??
[03:49] <igorayeb> i dont undertand things, sorry.
[03:49] <Snake__> Do you know how to?
[03:49] <Snake__> If not I can explain it to you
[03:49] <igorayeb> oo yep..
[03:49] <igorayeb>  ino
[03:49] <Snake__> ok
[03:50] <igorayeb> i har no edit the archive in the etc/apt/////sources yet
[03:50] <igorayeb> i har no edit the archive in the etc/apt/sources yet
[03:50] <Snake__> Go do that then
[03:50] <Snake__> lol
[03:50] <igorayeb> moment;
[03:51] <igorayeb> i'm in the sources.list
[03:52] <Snake__> Okay add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to the very bottom
[03:52] <igorayeb> here in brazil thelinux has win verry users in the governament
[03:52] <Snake__> "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main"
[03:52] <Snake__> then save
[03:53] <igorayeb> is saved
[03:53] <igorayeb> now apt-get update
[03:53] <igorayeb> or i gona whith the sinapitic
[03:54] <Snake__> Do it with terminal
[03:54] <Snake__> Sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <Snake__> You do that?
[03:56] <igorayeb> yeat
[03:56] <Snake__> okay now sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:56] <Snake__> You should get about 35mb worth of upgrades
[03:56] <igorayeb> here he says 77.5 MB
[03:56] <igorayeb> but my linux isint in portuguese
[03:57] <Snake__> o.0
[03:57] <Snake__> Go to the PM
[03:57] <igorayeb> eebhehehe
[03:57] <igorayeb> PM
[03:57] <Snake__> Private message
[03:57] <igorayeb> i donto ubdertand this
[03:57] <igorayeb> ok
[03:57] <Snake__> No, talk to me in the private message :)
[04:03] <occy> any way to make your desktop be ~ ?
[04:07] <Chousuke> occy: What do you mean?
[04:07] <Chousuke> you want ~ to be a shortcut to your Desktop?
[04:08] <Chousuke> I think it's not possible without modifying the source code of the shell you're using.
[04:09] <occy> naw
[04:09] <Snake__> Anyone play omega RPG?
[04:09] <occy> I want the desktop I see in KDE... to be $HOME
[04:10] <occy> You can set this up in gnome
[04:10] <occy> instead of having ~/Desktop being the desktop
[04:10] <occy> you can make it so that ~/  is your desktop
[04:10] <occy> heh
[04:11] <occy> this is handy for helping you keep ~ clean and free of crap.
[04:11] <occy> if you look at it, you are more apt to keep things neat and tidy.
[04:11] <occy> if you don't, it becomes a pit of junk.
[04:11] <Chousuke> but, hm
[04:12] <Snake__> Yay pits of junk!
[04:12] <Snake__> Like my closet
[04:12] <Chousuke> you'll have a lot of other junk in your home dir that you don't want to show up on your desktop
[04:12] <occy> heh
[04:12] <Chousuke> like ~/mp3
[04:12] <Chousuke> or ~/src
[04:12] <occy> Chousuke: that's sort of for the user to decide isn't it?
[04:12] <Chousuke> yeah, I guess.
[04:12] <occy> Chousuke: I don't have those in my home dir
[04:12] <occy> :P
[04:12] <Chousuke> Where do you have them then? :P
[04:12] <occy> the only thing I have is ~/Desktop
[04:13] <occy> errr
[04:13] <occy> I take that back
[04:13] <occy> I have a dir called:
[04:13] <occy> ~/myFiles  (lame but....)
[04:13] <occy> and I keep everything in there
[04:13] <Chousuke> all your settings are there too
[04:13] <occy> heh
[04:13] <Chousuke> in .dirs
[04:13] <occy> settings go in hidden files
[04:13] <occy> anyway
[04:14] <Chousuke> occy: $HOME is meant for yourFiles
[04:14] <Chousuke> :P
[04:14] <occy> you are debating IF it should be done, not IF you can do it.
[04:14] <occy> Chousuke: that's a conversation I don't care to have.
[04:14] <Chousuke> I think moving your Desktop to ~/ may also break things.
[04:14] <occy> I'm not here to justify why I want to do something.
[04:15] <Chousuke> Either way, I don't know how to do it
[04:15] <Chousuke> I suppose you can, KDE being quite customisable
[04:15] <occy> nod
[04:15] <Chousuke> You could also symlink ~ to ~/Desktop
[04:15] <occy> hmm
[04:15] <Snake__> I learned how to change the little K yesterday :)!
[04:15] <occy> Snake__: heh
[04:16] <Snake__> But then I learned my graphics dont fit in well with the lay out :)
[04:16] <Chousuke> it causes funny recursion though.
[04:16] <thefam> arh
[04:17] <occy> Chousuke: in gconfeditor, there is a check you can do.... (in gnome) that let's you set:  desktop_is_home_dir
[04:17] <occy> I'd be surprised if that wasn't a feature in KDE somewhere too.
[04:17] <Chousuke> yeah
[04:17] <Chousuke> happy hunting :P
[04:17] <occy> hehe
[04:17] <occy> actually
[04:17] <occy> !
[04:17] <ubotflu> occy: Are you smoking crack?
[04:17] <occy> ubotflu: mostly.  heh
[04:17] <ubotflu> occy: Are you on ritalin?
[04:17] <occy> silly bots
[04:18] <robin_2> :)
[04:21] <Snake__> Hey anyone here know anything about konquoror?
[04:21] <at1as> Has anyone else had trouble getting Korganizer (Kontact) alerts to actually play sounds in Breezy?
[04:21] <occy> Snake__: I know some thing about it yes.  :)
[04:21] <at1as> Snake__: I know a bit.  What's up?
[04:21] <occy> Snake__: I know it's a web browser.
[04:21] <occy> Snake__: ;)
[04:21] <occy> hehe
[04:22] <Snake__> occy: How would I get my  google search bar back??
[04:22] <Snake__> It seems to have run off
[04:22] <occy> Snake__: check your toolbars at the top
[04:22] <occy> not using it myself...
[04:22] <Snake__> I did...
[04:25] <Snake__> at1as: any ideas?
[04:26] <at1as> Snake__: What does show up at the top?  You still have the box, right?  Does it only allow something like a Local search or something ?  Or nothing at all?
[04:27] <Snake__> at1as: Nothing at all, the adressbar extends all the way across
[04:29] <Snake__> and I can't find anything that says like "Searchbar" in the configure toolbars area
[04:30] <[-SiO-] > Snake_: go to "Settings">"Configure Extensions" then make sure the "Search Bar Plug-in" is checked
[04:30] <igorayeb> Snake__: konqueror whatu you whant exacley
[04:30] <at1as> Snake__:  Look in Configure Extensions
[04:30] <[-SiO-] > damn my left arrow key just broke off
[04:30] <Snake__> all thats there is "text to speech plugin"
[04:30] <Snake__> ROFL
[04:31] <Snake__> sorry [-SiO-] 
[04:31] <[-SiO-] > lol np
[04:32] <[-SiO-] > so nothing in the Extensions tab?
[04:32] <Snake__> Just Text to Speech Plugin
[04:32] <[-SiO-] > check the Tools tab?
[04:32] <Snake__> Theres nothing there
[04:33] <Snake__> (That struck me a bit odd)
[04:33] <at1as> Snake__: That should be in the Tools tab, not the extensions tab.
[04:33] <Snake__> How would I get it back then, my tools tab is literally empty
[04:33] <[-SiO-] > lol thats wierd
[04:34] <Snake__> want screenshot?
[04:34] <Snake__> lol
[04:34] <[-SiO-] > lol no i beleave u
[04:34] <Snake__> :)
[04:35] <at1as> Check to see that kdeaddons is installed?
[04:35] <at1as> konq_plugins
[04:36] <Snake__> I was thinking that but I didnt know if it would be compatiable with 3.5
[04:38] <Snake__> Would it be?
[04:39] <Snake__> at1as:??
[04:39] <at1as> not doing it?
[04:40] <Snake__> no, would it be compatible with 3.5?
[04:40] <at1as> couldn't tell.
[04:40] <Snake__> lol ok
[04:40] <Joha1> people! I need your help. Has anybody of you an idea How to reconfigure the xserver on kubuntu?!
[04:41] <at1as> Where did the kde35 come from?  I would look for that from there
[04:41] <Snake__> I got it on apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <at1as> .usng what repo?
[04:42] <Snake__> Umm the one that ubotflu gives you
[04:42] <Snake__> !kde3.5
[04:42] <ubotflu> kde3.5 is, like, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[04:42] <Snake__> that one
[04:42] <Joha1> kde.org (the maintainers of the de project), usually even trolltech has rights of parts of the source code
[04:43] <Joha1> Has any of you guys an idea how to reconfigure the xserver on ubuntu?
[04:43] <Snake__> --Offtopic-- Hey guys, check out this internet! Up to 30mbps $30 a month!!! http://www.optimumonline.com/index.jhtml?pageType=boost_landing --/Offtopic--
[04:43] <Joha1> I mean the commmand...
[04:46] <penguinzdr> is it normal to have 7 MB free RAM on Kubuntu?
[04:46] <_martin> Is there any good cleaner for linux?
[04:46] <Snake__> cleaner?
[04:47] <_martin> like ccleaner for win
[04:47] <Snake__> o.0
[04:47] <robotgeek> penguinzdr: yes, linux uses your ram if you have it
[04:47] <Snake__> Pardon my stupidity
[04:47] <Snake__> robotgeek: Why is that!?
[04:47] <robotgeek> _martin: you don't need all that on Linux. welcome to a spyware/adware/virus free world!
[04:47] <penguinzdr> robotgeek: but i think that isn't normal, yesterday i haved 120 MB used RAM
[04:48] <Snake__> penguinzdr: It depends on how many programs you run, have ran etc
[04:48] <penguinzdr> i run only konversation and karamba in that moment
[04:48] <penguinzdr> superkaramba*
[04:48] <_martin> robotgeek; dosen't programs that i have uinstalled left some traces then?
[04:48] <Snake__> But have you opened programs in the past? I'm not sure but I would assume that would stay cached just a bit to open faster
[04:49] <robotgeek> Snake__,penguinzdr : http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/07/memory-swap-management/
[04:49] <Snake__> _martin: probly not, thats the beauty of packages
[04:49] <_martin> ok i see
[04:49] <penguinzdr> Snake__: i have started my computer before 2 minutes, i didnt ran any apps
[04:49] <Snake__> Ah ok
[04:49] <Snake__> well In that case, read that essay robotgeek posted :)
[04:50] <penguinzdr> ok lets see
[04:50] <robotgeek> penguinzdr: unless there's a memory leak, it's alrite
[04:52] <penguinzdr> now i understand
[04:52] <penguinzdr> "kamak mi padna ot syrtseto"
[04:52] <Snake__> Oh man I will cache forever..
[04:52] <Snake__> I got 2 gigs system ram, and 5 gigs of swap
[04:52] <Snake__> lol
[04:52] <Snake__> o wait...thats my main system...
[04:53] <penguinzdr> 2 gigs RAM!?!?!?!
[04:53] <Snake__> on my main rig yes
[04:53] <penguinzdr> wow i have 256 MB
[04:53] <Snake__> I'mactually about to put another gig in after christmas
[04:53] <penguinzdr> o.0
[04:53] <Snake__> Need for speed Most wanted was lagging :)
[04:54] <penguinzdr> using wine?
[04:54] <Snake__> lol
[04:54] <Snake__> No, my main rig has windows
[04:54] <Snake__> I only use that for gaming, everything else is my laptop (what im on now)
[04:54] <robin_2> what is the alternative for quickpar on Linux ?
[04:56] <rev> !rar
[04:56] <ubotflu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[04:56] <robin_2> rar != par
[04:56] <robin_2> !ar
[04:56] <ubotflu> robin_2: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:56] <robin_2> !par
[04:56] <ubotflu> robin_2: I give up, what is it?
[04:56] <robin_2> !par2
[04:56] <ubotflu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, robin_2
[04:57] <Snake__> Argh
[04:57] <Snake__> Damn you ubotflu
[04:57] <robotgeek> robin_2: quickpar?
[04:57] <robin_2> yes
[04:57] <robin_2> you know to repair the files you download on usenet
[04:57] <robin_2> quickpar is for windows
[04:57] <robin_2> I want a similar thing for Linux.
[04:57] <robotgeek> robin_2: hmm, that's the first time i've heard that :)
[04:58] <robin_2> hehe well where do you get your stuff from nowadays ?
[04:58] <robin_2> p2p :D?
[04:58] <Snake__> Theres no good p2p client on linux
[04:58] <robotgeek> robin_2: http://parchive.sourceforge.net/
[04:58] <Snake__> That disappointed me
[04:58] <Snake__> No more music :(
[04:58] <robin_2> usenet
[04:58] <robin_2> so simple
[04:58] <robin_2> everything you want
[04:59] <robin_2> no need for p2p
[04:59] <robin_2> and legal, since you are not uploading as with p2p
[04:59] <robin_2> at least here.
[04:59] <Snake__> Where are you robin_2 b
[05:00] <penguinzdr> anyone tested klik?
[05:00] <robin_2> NL
[05:01] <Snake__> NL?
[05:01] <robin_2> Holland.
[05:01] <Snake__> Ah
[05:01] <Snake__> I dont think the US would approve :(
[05:01] <Snake__> lol
[05:02] <robin_2> :D no, here downloading music and movies is legal if you don't upload them.. Downloading Software is _not_ legal though .
[05:02] <robin_2> a little bit strange..
[05:02] <robin_2> but it works :)
[05:03] <Snake__> Here if you have anything you didnt pay for on your hard drive they can get you
[05:03] <Snake__> Homos...
[05:04] <Snake__> Man this sucks I want my google searchbar back
[05:05] <robotgeek> robin_2: was that what you were looking for?
[05:06] <robin_2> i'm using par2 cmdline
[05:06] <robin_2> the GUI isn't available for Linux.
[05:06] <robin_2> thx
[05:14] <_nano_> hey Snake__ !
[05:15] <Snake__> yo _nano_
[05:15] <kakei> how do i check the open ports?
[05:17] <_nano_> kakei: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/security-guide/s1-server-ports.html
[05:17] <_nano_> kakei: http://cri.ch/linux/docs/cg0006.html
[05:29] <zigovr> hi all , I have a weird problem, after a few reboots, kubuntu doesn't want to mount anymore most of my /media/ partitions (altough they still mount correctly under gentoo). They do not mount at boot, and I cannot mount them manually either ...
[05:31] <_nano_> zigovr: what's the error you are getting?
[05:33] <zigovr> _nano_, it tells me "mount: /dev/hdc7 already mounted or /media/hdc7/ busy" for example, but the partition isn't mounted anywhere
[05:33] <_nano_> check your /etc/fstab file?
[05:33] <zigovr> it hasn't changed
[05:33] <zigovr> but now that I think about it, I must have made a mistake when I recompiled the kernel
[05:34] <zigovr> somehow ide drives must not be supported anymore (only the ata drive still works , fortunatly that's the boot drive)
[05:34] <zigovr> sata drive*
[05:35] <robotgeek> zigovr: hmm, that must be it.check your "dmesg"
[05:37] <zigovr> right, I got these type of messages "[   59.815084]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[05:37] <zigovr> [   59.815091]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[05:37] <zigovr> "
[05:37] <zigovr> I can still run hdparm on the drives
[05:37] <zigovr> and even read the partition table with fdisk
[05:38] <zigovr> but no mount them
[05:39] <robotgeek> zigovr: hmm, no clue. you might want to recompile using the config from ubuntu & make oldconfig
[05:39] <zigovr> yes I'm going to recompile everything, that's the best I can do :)
[05:40] <zigovr> thanks _nano_ and robotgeek , see you later
[05:40] <robotgeek> zigovr: later
[05:45] <sarava> hey
[05:47] <sarava> I need some help
[05:49] <sarava> I guess there is no one here
[05:50] <robotgeek> sarava: what problem do you have?
[05:50] <sarava> I changed my hardrive and now I can't acces my ubuntu
[05:51] <sarava> I think taht if I can acces my  /etc/fstab/ and change it from hada to hadb it would fix the problems
[05:51] <robotgeek> have you tried booting with the live cd and restoring your grub? i'm sorry i can't give you details cause i don't use grub/lilo
[05:52] <sarava> yeah, but I can see it but it doesn't allow me to make changes
[05:52] <sarava> what do you use?
[05:53] <robotgeek> sarava: i am on powerpc/mac
[05:55] <sarava> I am on a knopixx cd right now and can see the files I need to change but have no permission to change them
[05:59] <sarava> I guess I'm stuck
[05:59] <robotgeek> sarava: sorry man
[06:00] <sarava> I am not a man
[06:00] <robotgeek> sarava: okay, sorry ma'am :)
[06:00] <thefish> sarava: nothing to be ashamed of
[06:00] <robotgeek> sarava: stupid assumptions to make on irc :)
[06:00] <sarava> I hope i did not com eof  rude but I just like to clarify
[06:01] <robotgeek> sarava: no, my bad
[06:01] <Dex_F> hi
[06:02] <Dex_F> just wanted to add a repository, namely: deb http://soulmachine.net/breezy/ unstable/
[06:02] <sarava> I think that I have to go back and chage the hardrive to its origianl place .its better than restarting
[06:02] <Dex_F> now apt-get update bitches about a "misformed line" in sources.list
[06:02] <Dex_F> why? what's wrong?
[06:03] <rev> Dex_F: paste your sources.list at http://pastebin.com/
[06:03] <jep> hej
[06:05] <Dex_F> rev: http://paste.axpr.net/?show=348
[06:05] <jep> why can I get snabel a
[06:16] <Dex_F> fixed it. deleted the line and reentered in manually. now works. bob knows why.
[06:17] <Dex_F> first time i added it with adept. bug maybe?
[06:18] <sarava> I had the same problem with adpt
[06:19] <Dex_F> ah. well, adept nees a lil more polish anyway, huh?
[06:27] <Snake__> Hey who do you search apt-get??
[06:27] <Snake__> anyone
[06:27] <Snake__> _nano_ you here?
[06:27] <djk_> apt-cache search foo
[06:27] <Snake__> :)
[06:27] <_nano_> Snake__: hey !
[06:27] <Snake__> thanks
[06:28] <Snake__> Never mind :-P
[06:28] <w0rmz> i got problem with sound
[06:28] <w0rmz> i can hear the sound using xmms
[06:28] <w0rmz> but not with xine or mplayer
[06:28] <w0rmz> where do i ve to configure the thing
[06:29] <robin_2> !transparancy
[06:29] <ubotflu> Syntax error in line 1, robin_2
[06:29] <hussam> Can somebody be kind enough to check for me is this site opens http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/    it
[06:30] <hussam> it's a ubuntu repository
[06:30] <w0rmz> ping the address
[06:30] <robin_2> down
[06:30] <jjesse> server times out
[06:30] <robin_2> although server is up
[06:30] <robin_2> robin@kubuntu:~$ ping seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:30] <robin_2> PING seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (83.160.7.26) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:30] <robin_2> 64 bytes from seveas.demon.nl (83.160.7.26): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=28.3 ms
[06:30] <robin_2> sry
[06:31] <hussam> robin_2, jjesse : thanks you guys
[06:31] <robin_2> np
[06:32] <w0rmz> robin_2, do u have problem with sound in media player ??
[06:32] <robin_2> which media player ?
[06:32] <robin_2> i'm using amarok with xine engine
[06:33] <robin_2> but that's only a music player
[06:34] <w0rmz> what about movie?
[06:34] <w0rmz> is there any sound
[06:34] <robin_2> i'm using mplayer for that.
[06:34] <robin_2> yes
[06:34] <robin_2> works
[06:34] <w0rmz> hmm
[06:34] <hussam> anybody running breezy with kde 3.4.3 wants a superkarmaba 0.37 deb? ( its a properly made deb using dpkg-buildpackage )
[06:34] <w0rmz> robin_2, u mean gui mplayer ?
[06:34] <robin_2> w0rmz: nope, cli
[06:35] <w0rmz> wait
[06:37] <abode> hi
[06:38] <robin_2> hi
[06:44] <fyodor> robin_2, can u tell me the exact name for the media player
[06:44] <fyodor> im looking for gui player
[06:46] <manveru> kmplayer
[06:46] <manveru> !info kmplayer
[06:46] <manveru> hmm
[06:46] <manveru> why do i have it installed then...
[06:46] <robin_2> !kmplayer
[06:46] <ubotflu> Syntax error in line 1, robin_2
[06:47] <robin_2> :)
[06:47] <robin_2> manveru: kmplayer is not in apt.
[06:47] <robin_2> manveru: probably you compiled it from source.
[06:47] <manveru> i don't think so
[06:47] <manveru> i can count the stuff i compiled on one hand :)
[06:48] <fyodor> pundek@sauron:~$ sudo apt-get install kmplayer
[06:48] <fyodor> Reading package lists... Done
[06:48] <fyodor> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:48] <fyodor> E: Couldn't find package kmplayer
[06:48] <robin_2> manveru: try apt-cache policy kmplayer
[06:48] <manveru> i tried it...
[06:48] <manveru> cannot be found
[06:48] <robin_2> :D
[06:49] <manveru> however, i'm in the opinion that it was installed from the very beginning
[06:49] <fyodor> robin_2, do u have extra repos to add in ?
[06:49] <robin_2> fyodor: well mplayer has a GUI, but not really fancy
[06:49] <robin_2> fyodor: enable multiverse
[06:49] <abode> hi >>>>>>I am not know speak english >but I want mount (hda1) for linux kubuntu?????
[06:50] <manveru> abode: what language do you speak?
[06:50] <robin_2> abode: what do you speak
[06:50] <abode> arabic
[06:50] <robin_2> eh
[06:50] <robin_2> I don't :)
[06:50] <robin_2> fyodor: you know how to enable multiverse v?
[06:50] <robin_2> *-v
[06:50] <abode> speak engish
[06:50] <manveru> hmm, explaining mounting without using english... :|
[06:50] <fyodor> robin_2, in where ?
[06:50] <fyodor> im using apt-get and not synaptic
[06:51] <robin_2> fyodor: ok open /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <manveru> abode: is hda1 a windows-partition?
[06:51] <abode> yes
[06:51] <djk_> is it possible to print a pdf in cli with 2 or 4 pages on 1 sheet?
[06:51] <manveru> abode: fat32 or ntfs?
[06:51] <abode> all
[06:51] <manveru> abode: it can be only one of them
[06:51] <robin_2> fyodor: you have it open ?
[06:51] <manveru> abode: did you create it with windowsXP?
[06:51] <robin_2> fyodor: well just add multiverse after 'main' you can also add universe for more packages.
[06:52] <manveru> !sources
[06:52] <robin_2> deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted multiverse <= somethingl like that
[06:52] <abode> yes
[06:52] <manveru> where is ubotu?
[06:52] <robin_2> on vacation
[06:52] <manveru> yesterday it had a flu...
[06:52] <robin_2> ubotflu: are you there?
[06:52] <manveru> poor bot
[06:53] <robin_2> he is dead I think. :(
[06:53] <manveru> abode: ok, ntfs is harder to mount
[06:53] <manveru> abode: do you need to write to hda1?
[06:53] <abode> I want see hda1=C hda2=D in kubuntu
[06:53] <manveru> abode: or only read stuff?
[06:54] <abode> you writi I see
[06:54] <abode> read only
[06:54] <fyodor> deb http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe
[06:54] <fyodor> deb-src http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe
[06:54] <fyodor> is it ??
[06:54] <manveru> abode: ok, this is not hard to do
[06:55] <abode> thx
[06:55] <abode> how?
[06:56] <manveru> abode: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:56] <manveru> abode: i think you can use a translator for this page and ask me when you don't undestand something
[06:56] <abode> thank u
[06:57] <abode> I see now
[06:57] <abode> brb
[06:57] <djk_> hey manveru, is it possible to print pdfs in the konsole...printing 2 or 4 pages on one sheet?
[06:57] <djk_> lp doesn't offer that option.
[06:57] <manveru> djk_: guess so...
[06:58] <djk_> would you know how? ;)
[06:58] <manveru> no
[06:58] <manveru> never did that :)
[06:58] <manveru> especially not with these options
[06:58] <bkw> I've just installed kunbuntu and try to run Adept, which returns with "su returned with an error"
[06:59] <djk_> hehe, i have ~30 pdfs and i don't want to do it with kpdf..
[06:59] <manveru> bkw: how do you try to run adept?
[06:59] <manveru> djk_: oh... how about mouse-macros?
[06:59] <bkw> manveru: K->system->adept
[07:00] <manveru> bkw: open a console please
[07:00] <bkw> done
[07:00] <manveru> bkw: and run 'kdesu adept'
[07:01] <djk_> manveru: mouse-macros?
[07:01] <bkw> manveru: worked
[07:01] <manveru> djk_: recording mouse-movements, using them as macros
[07:01] <jahshua> can someone please tell me how to check my hd on kubuntu
[07:01] <Snake__> l3m are you avalible?
[07:01] <jahshua> i want to see how many free gb i have
[07:02] <manveru> djk_: it's not really the unix-way to do stuff, but it's one option i see
[07:02] <manveru> jahshua: 'df -h'
[07:02] <manveru> jahshua: in the console
[07:02] <jahshua> thanks
[07:02] <robin_2> fyodor: multiverse
[07:02] <robin_2> fyodor: and universe
[07:02] <robin_2> fyodor: so both
[07:03] <jahshua> ok i have a problem
[07:03] <djk_> manveru: yea it's an option, but if there is a way to do what i want in the konsole, then there's no need for kpdf anymore :)
[07:03] <jahshua> i have a 40 gb hd , but df -h only shows 9 gb
[07:03] <jahshua> i tried qtparted last night to reassign the rest of my hd to kubuntu
[07:04] <manveru> jahshua: yeah, mp3-collections need lots of space :)
[07:04] <jahshua> no
[07:04] <jahshua> 9gb in total
[07:04] <jahshua> im using 2 gb
[07:04] <manveru> jahshua: [that was a joke... :] 
[07:04] <jahshua> ok ;)
[07:04] <jahshua> sorry
[07:04] <Snake__> manveru: my MP3 takes up 19 gigs...
[07:04] <Snake__> lol
[07:04] <bkw> Can the ntp server(ntp.ubuntulinux.org) which the system try to connect during bootup be changed?
[07:05] <manveru> jahshua: so, what partitions do you have atm?
[07:05] <jahshua> menveru i dont really know, i thought when i used qparted last night that it got rid of my windows partition
[07:05] <l3m> Snake__: what's up?
[07:05] <jahshua> is there a command for checking partitions
[07:05] <Snake__> l3m: was it you that used like apitude or something like that instead of apt-get?
[07:06] <thoreauputic> jahshua:  sudo fdisk -l
[07:06] <manveru> jahshua: so you deleted your windows-partitions and resized the root-partition?
[07:06] <jahshua> i thought i did
[07:06] <jahshua> thats what i tried to do
[07:06] <l3m> Snake__: no, but aptitude is a future replacement for apt-get. currently, it's still unstable though
[07:06] <l3m> Snake__: it's great but don't complain if it breaks something ;)
[07:06] <Snake__> l3m: Okay, I remeber someone in here used to prech it all the time :)
[07:07] <Snake__> I couldn't remeber the command, and I couldn't remeber who it was
[07:07] <l3m> yeah me too, but i don't remember who it was ;)
[07:07] <l3m> either...
[07:07] <jahshua> thoropeutic that shows a bunch of stuff, can i paste it in the channel ?
[07:07] <Snake__> lol
[07:07] <Snake__> aight thanks
[07:08] <jahshua> first part is here
[07:08] <jahshua> Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40000000000 bytes
[07:08] <jahshua> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4863 cylinders
[07:08] <jahshua> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:08] <jahshua> then
[07:08] <jahshua>  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:08] <jahshua> /dev/hda1   *           1          13      104391    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:08] <jahshua> /dev/hda2              14        3598    28796512+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[07:08] <jahshua> /dev/hda3            3599        4863    10161112+  83  Linux
[07:08] <jahshua> /dev/hda5              14        3539    28322563+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:08] <jahshua> /dev/hda6            3540        3598      473886   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:08] <jahshua> sorry for the flood ;/
[07:08] <Snake__> Pastebin!
[07:08] <jahshua> sorry sorry sorry
[07:09] <jahshua> can anyone tell me what that means :p
[07:09] <jahshua> sorry again
[07:09] <Snake__> http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:09] <Snake__> ;)
[07:09] <jahshua> ah great
[07:09] <jahshua> thanks snakew
[07:09] <jahshua> snake*
[07:09] <Snake__> yeppers
[07:10] <_Snake_> ugh
[07:10] <jahshua> can anyone explain that to me ?
[07:10] <jahshua> please
[07:10] <jahshua> :/
[07:10] <Snake_> explain what
[07:10] <jahshua> my hd situation
[07:11] <Snake__> your windows partition is still there
[07:11] <trazi> Hi, somebody can help me? I just made an apt-get upgrade and my kubuntu doesn't start, kubunto is froozen checking battery status, somebody knows why or how arrange it?
[07:11] <abode> manveru: thank u :)
[07:11] <Snake__> trazi: did you restart?
[07:11] <manveru> abode: it worked?
[07:11] <Snake__> jahshua: see NTFS? Thats windows
[07:11] <abode> yes
[07:12] <manveru> abode: glad to hear :)
[07:12] <abode> thank u
[07:12] <jahshua> so where is my gb at
[07:12] <kkathman> hey manveru :)
[07:12] <abode> bye :)
[07:12] <jahshua> cause i only have 9 gb here
[07:12] <trazi> Snake__:  Yes, i reboot 3 times
[07:12] <djk_> jahshua: are the ntfs and vfat mounted in linux?
[07:12] <Snake__> trazi: Ah well youll have to talk to someone more knowledgable than I
[07:12] <jahshua> i dont know
[07:12] <manveru> kkathman: hey you
[07:13] <trazi> Ok, thx Snake__  :)
[07:13] <djk_> jahshua: if they are not mounted, df won't show them
[07:13] <Russel-Athletic> i have a problem with kmail when i try to start it, it exits with: kdeinit can't start kmail
[07:13] <djk_> df only shows currently mounted filesystems..
[07:13] <Russel-Athletic> the configfile is not the problem
[07:13] <Russel-Athletic> version is kde3.5 from kubuntu reps
[07:13] <jahshua> should i mount ntfs and vfat ? will that give me my gb back
[07:13] <jahshua> ?
[07:13] <bkw> Seem like all applications that require su ends up with "su returned an error"
[07:14] <Snake__> jahshua: are you trying to get rid of windows?
[07:14] <jahshua> yes!
[07:14] <djk_> jahshua: it's not like you have lost your gb... and yes, you should mount the windows partitions if you want to use them..
[07:14] <jahshua> heh
[07:14] <jahshua> can you please tell me how
[07:14] <Russel-Athletic> one moment, perhaps i solved the problem
[07:14] <jahshua> :/
[07:14] <Snake__> okay, youll need to format your HDD off the disk
[07:14] <jahshua> if its not too difficult
[07:14] <Snake__> Load ur kubuntu disk and format it
[07:15] <Snake__> tell it to erase all partitions
[07:15] <jahshua> like reboot into kubuntu from the cd ?
[07:15] <jahshua> ok
[07:15] <Snake__> it shouldbe the first choice
[07:15] <Snake__> I cant remeber exactly what it says
[07:15] <Snake__> but its something like erase whole disk and use
[07:15] <Snake__> or something
[07:16] <jahshua> ok
[07:16] <Snake__> Oh and uhh
[07:16] <Snake__> hey
[07:16] <Snake__> jahshua:
[07:16] <jahshua> and what about my previous(this) install of kubuntu
[07:16] <jahshua> yo
[07:16] <Snake__> IF you do that you have to reinstall kubuntu
[07:16] <Snake__> ya
[07:16] <jahshua> ok
[07:16] <Snake__> >.<
[07:17] <jahshua> i was told that you can run into problem with reinstalling linux
[07:17] <jahshua> is that true
[07:17] <Snake__> Not if the drive is clean
[07:17] <Snake__> and cleared
[07:17] <jahshua> would it be easier to just mount the ntfs and vfat
[07:17] <Snake__> You wont be able to use your whole disk while on kubuntu
[07:18] <Snake__> just ur 9 gigs
[07:18] <jahshua> ok
[07:18] <Snake__> Youll be able to read off the windows disk, but not write to it
[07:18] <ninnghizidha> hi there, fellows.
[07:20] <fyodor> pls tell me what media player is the best and where do i find it
[07:20] <ninnghizidha> windows Media Player ist really nice.
[07:20] <Russel-Athletic> ok a stupid problem now: if i start kmail per katapult it crashes. if i start it in konsole everything is fine...
[07:20] <Russel-Athletic> any suggestions?
[07:21] <fyodor> ninnghizidha, can run in ubuntu ?
[07:21] <bkw> Are there any way to make all applications that need su using kdesu instead of returning a window saying "su returned with an error" ?
[07:21] <ninnghizidha> ... in vmware for sure ... but would be a quite wierd solution ;-9
[07:22] <ninnghizidha> totem-xine is kiss
[07:22] <_johnny> hi
[07:22] <ninnghizidha> xine is good too.
[07:22] <_johnny> why FreeBSD have a best view of fonts?
[07:23] <LacertaII> my PC froze, can i do anything?
[07:23] <kkathman> a warm hair dryer?
[07:23] <kkathman> hehe
[07:24] <LacertaII> i mean is there something i can try as a last resort?
[07:24] <LacertaII> the cursor moves but nothing else happens
[07:24] <LacertaII> does it mean i have to reboot?
[07:25] <_nano_> control alt backspace ?
[07:25] <_nano_> not working?
[07:25] <_nano_> keyboard not responding?
[07:25] <LacertaII> doesn't seem to
[07:25] <_nano_> hmm...i would restart in that case...
[07:25] <LacertaII> *sigh*
[07:26] <LacertaII> i thought UNIX based systems wouldn't crash
[07:27] <sambagirl> i thought xine was included in ubuntu?
[07:27] <_nano_> LacertaII: what exactly led to that?
[07:28] <Kibou> X froze..
[07:28] <Kibou> you can prolly still ssh into it and kill X
[07:28] <_nano_> Kibou: yeah true
[07:29] <sambagirl> is xine included with kubuntu?
[07:29] <LacertaII> _nano_, i was resizing the solitaire game window
[07:30] <_nano_> LacertaII: lol
[07:30] <LacertaII> yeah :)
[07:30] <LacertaII> i'll try that again
[07:31] <LacertaII> now it crashed before i could even open the game
[07:31] <_nano_> LacertaII: what's the name of the solitaire game?
[07:31] <_nano_> LacertaII: try opening the game from console
[07:31] <_nano_> without &
[07:31] <LacertaII> it happened again
[07:32] <LacertaII> i already reinstalled the system once because of this :(
[07:32] <_nano_> LacertaII: what's the name of the game again?
[07:32] <LacertaII> it's probably not the game
[07:33] <LacertaII> _nano_, i'll give the name if this crap won't crash now
[07:33] <_nano_> LacertaII: c'mon lemme see if that crashes in my sys as well
[07:33] <_nano_> LacertaII: prolly we could file a bug report then
[07:33] <brittany> hi
[07:36] <LacertaII> _nano_, it seems it crashes every time i start the system now
[07:36] <_nano_> LacertaII: the name of the game please :D
[07:36] <ninnghizidha> too bad, that smoothblend doenst support the mousewheel-events :-/
[07:36] <LacertaII> it always crashes before i can get to the menu! :E
[07:37] <ninnghizidha> .... ah .. i hat those window-decoration-hassle in kde
[07:37] <_nano_> LacertaII: try running that from console? does it crash?
[07:37] <LacertaII> well i don't remember the name so...
[07:38] <jahshua> if i want to reinstall kubuntu
[07:38] <jahshua> how do i make sure my drive is clean first
[07:38] <LacertaII> _nano_, it's "Klondyke"
[07:38] <_nano_> LacertaII: you got it using apt-get?
[07:39] <LacertaII> _nano_, i installed it with synaptic
[07:40] <_nano_> LacertaII: lemme try
[07:42] <yannux> hey everybody
[07:44] <_nano_> Lacertall, i don't see any games with that name in my repo list :(
[07:45] <LacertaII> _nano_, i'll check it
[07:48] <slicslak> i'm looking for a good rss reader.  there are tons out there, which is why i ask for recondemnations
[07:49] <_nano_> slicslak : akregator
[07:50] <_nano_> Snake__: having trouble with wireless? :P
[07:55] <Snake__> _nano_: Why do you say that?
[07:55] <_nano_> Snake__: so you getting connected and disconnected
[07:55] <Snake__> _nano_: Oh, no i'm chaning router settins
[07:55] <Snake__> trys to allow a friend to remote connect to my com[
[07:55] <_nano_> adding mac addrss??
[07:55] <_nano_> lol
[07:56] <_nano_> oh port forwarding
[07:56] <_nano_> okeis
[07:56] <Snake__> No, but whats the default port for remote connect??
[07:56] <_nano_> but that shouldn't restart the router should it?
[07:56] <Snake__> 22 right??
[07:56] <_nano_> ssh ..yeah 22
[07:56] <Snake__> _nano_: ya it does
[07:56] <Snake__> ok
[07:56] <_nano_> Snake__: i use a netgear router .. i forward ports without restarting
[07:57] <Snake__> Ah im a linksys
[07:57] <Snake__> Mine restarts :)
[07:57] <_nano_> Snake__: aah
[07:58] <Snake__> hmm
[07:58] <Snake__> WHy wont it let him connect
[08:02] <slicslak> thx _nano_
[08:02] <ninnghizidha> does somebody know how to get rid of the turquoise menu-border of the lipstick-style?
[08:06] <_robin> hey! what file do i need to alter to get permission to my /media/hda1 ??
[08:06] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:06] <ninnghizidha> gr dich.
[08:06] <ninnghizidha>  /etc/fstab
[08:07] <_robin> Ok, Thanx
[08:08] <_robin> what shall i write in fstab to give every user read permission??
[08:08] <_robin> to hda1
[08:09] <ninnghizidha> well .. did you look at the ubuntu-wiki?
[08:09] <elektronaut> umask=022
[08:09] <elektronaut> (that equals 755 permissions)
[08:09] <_robin> Ok, Thanx!
[08:09] <elektronaut> /dev/hda1       /media/windows_c  ntfs     ro,user,umask=022 0     0
[08:09] <elektronaut> here's my line:
[08:10] <elektronaut> the user bit allows users to mount it too
[08:11] <_robin> Thanx worked great
[08:17] <ninnghizidha> aaaargh ... I hate the turquoise glow at the lipstick-menus ... this can't be hardcoded!
[08:18] <hussam> ninnghizidha: use plastik, it's just as good.
[08:18] <ninnghizidha> i know ... hardly a difference ...
[08:39] <LacertaII> _nano_, the game starts with "kpat"
[08:39] <_nano_> LacertaII: wow that was fast :P
[08:39] <LacertaII> sorry :)
[08:40] <keyes> hello
[08:41] <keyes> do you know how to set up Firefox as default browser in KDE?
[08:42] <LacertaII> _nano_, right now i cannot reproduce the effect
[08:42] <_nano_> keyes, kcontrol -->kde components-->web browser
[08:42] <_nano_> LacertaII: it's not crashing on me...though i don't konw how to play solitaire :P
[08:42] <keyes> _nano_:  thanks :)
[08:43] <_nano_> keyes: np :)
[08:43] <keyes> and wath's the name of the magic Quake Like shell or something like this? (sorry i'm a GNOME user who try KDE)
[08:44] <_nano_> keyes: could you elaborate on that?
[08:45] <keyes> i don't know what it is. I've just listen some peoples talking about that.
[08:45] <_nano_> keyes: i've no c lue :) sorry :)
[08:45] <keyes> thanks anyway :)
[08:49] <LacertaII> can i undo the last install i made with synaptic?
[08:49] <LacertaII> i mean there's the history of all changes
[08:49] <LacertaII> do i have to uninstall them one by one?
[08:51] <jahshua> hi
[08:52] <jahshua> can someone please remind me of the command to check your hd space
[08:52] <ninnghizidha> how can i chang the background of konqueror?
[08:55] <Robdor> ninnghizidha: view->change background
[08:56] <Robdor> ninnghizidha: seems like it should be with the settings, but it's not...
[08:58] <_nano_> jahshua: df
[09:07] <anth0ny_> anyone who can recommend a nice gui torrent-client for Kubuntu?
[09:08] <elektronaut> ktorrent
[09:16] <jahshua> can someone tell me hot disable ipv6 in kubuntu
[09:16] <jahshua> its causing me to lag
[09:16] <jahshua> i did it before but cant remember
[09:16] <jahshua> cause i just reinstalled
[09:16] <jahshua> hot=how to
[09:19] <bkw> Shouldn't windows in kde stay on the desktop where they are opened if I don't touch sticky?
[09:19] <bkw> At the moment I can see them on the taskbar always
[09:20] <bkw> aha, I found a option for that
[09:20] <ninnghizidha> where do you found it?
[09:20] <bkw> system settings, panel, taskbar
[09:20] <bkw> uncheck the box
[09:22] <ninnghizidha> oh.
[09:23] <LacertaII> where is the button that configures all network settings automatically for me and makes me happy?
[09:23] <LacertaII> windows has one of those
[09:24] <Snake__> Whats the package for GTK?
[09:24] <rikva> What process does automount my USB devices? I need to kill it to recover my disk?
[09:25] <robotgeek> rikva: gnome-volume-manager
[09:25] <jahshua> can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable ipv6 in kubuntu
[09:25] <robotgeek> jahshua: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:25] <robotgeek> rikva: my bad, this is #kubuntu, sorry :)
[09:25] <rikva> robotgeek: that doesn't run... :p
[09:26] <Snake__> Anyone....
[09:26] <Snake__> !GTK
[09:26] <crimsun> Snake__: libgtk2.0-0
[09:26] <Snake__> kk
[09:26] <Snake__> Thanks
[09:28] <jahshua> robotgeek command not found
[09:28] <rikva> robotgeek: do you by any chance know the manager for kubuntu? :)
[09:29] <robotgeek> jahshua: i meant you can change it in the file, use a editor in a terminal. sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[09:29] <robotgeek> rikva: no, sorry
[09:29] <rikva> oki
[09:33] <jahshua> after you install packages with adept whats the command to run them ?
[09:35] <ccc_> just type the program name
[09:36] <jahshua> um
[09:36] <jahshua> no
[09:36] <jahshua> that doesnt work
[09:38] <LacertaII> can somebody help me to set up my network?
[09:38] <rikva> How can I stop Kubuntu from auto mounting my USB devices?
[09:40] <_orangey> rikva: unfortunately I think it involves editing the ivman files.
[09:40] <rikva> _orangey: I killed ivman, that also works (it's only temporarely)
[09:41] <LaserJock> how do you revert the menu after you have edited it with kmenuedit?
[09:42] <crimsun> pray.
[09:42] <ninnghizidha> whats the programm?
[09:42] <LaserJock> can't I remove some . file somewhere?
[09:43] <crimsun> I'm not familiar with ~/.kde* to answer
[09:43] <dell500> anyone know how to get a raid0 sata (2 120gb) device to work in windows and be read for itunes?? :)
[09:44] <EauTisse> chaps, any idea how come I see the following in dmesg ...
[09:44] <EauTisse> [   46.126169]  ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[09:44] <EauTisse> [   46.135509]  ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[09:45] <EauTisse> this is the output from the isapnp thing
[09:46] <EauTisse> could that possibly explain why I have my ne2000 NIC taking up both IRQ 4 and 5 ?
[09:46] <jahshua> can someone PLEASE explain how to do this
[09:46] <jahshua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[09:48] <bkw> Is it possible to make kde close all opened windows when quitting, when I quit with open windows now they still appear after a reboot?
[09:48] <LacertaII> is it possible to make kde not crash every 10 minutes?
[09:49] <LaserJock> ok, I reverted the changes by deleting ~/.config/menus/kmenuedit-applications.menu  and  ~/.local/share/applications/kde
[09:49] <LaserJock> LacertaII: I haven't had any problems, what is crashing?
[09:50] <LacertaII> *AGAIN" AARRGH"!
[09:50] <LacertaII> what the hell is wrong with this?!!
[09:52] <LacertaII> it starts by acting really weird.. it draws all windows wrong
[09:52] <sampan> lacertaii  i'm just a newb, so i probably won't be able to help much..but...for ANYONE to be able to help you, you need to provide more information.  which (k)ubuntu version, which kde version, how did you install it (upgrade, fresh cd install), exact description of what happens and under what circumstances ... etc., etc.
[09:52] <_patrick> hello
[09:52] <_patrick> can sombody help me
[09:52] <_patrick> pls
[09:53] <_patrick> how can i install firefox browser
[09:53] <_patrick> with my kubuntu
[09:53] <arafat> _patrick: apt-get install firefox
[09:54] <jahshua> whats the command to run programs installed with adept
[09:54] <jahshua> konsole command
[09:54] <_patrick> its firefox-1.5.tar.gz
[09:54] <sampan> jahshua  usually it's the name of the program you installed
[09:54] <_patrick> i downloaded from the web
[09:54] <_patrick> help arafat
[09:54] <arafat> _patrick: take the version from the repository
[09:55] <LaserJock> _patrick: is there a reason to install that instead of the Ubuntu one?
[09:55] <_patrick> where is that
[09:55] <arafat> just type into a console: sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:55] <_patrick> i dont have a copy my friend gave me one
[09:55] <_patrick> so i tried
[09:55] <_patrick> i dont know what the difrence
[09:55] <_patrick> bet ubuntu
[09:55] <jahshua> sampan but what do i type before the program name
[09:55] <_patrick> or kubuntu
[09:56] <sampan> jahshua  from cli?  nothing usually (assuming it's located in your PATH)
[09:56] <jahshua> i was given a command last night by a friend
[09:56] <jahshua> something with g and  |
[09:57] <jahshua> i cant remember :/
[09:57] <_patrick> is it hard to use kubuntu??
[09:57] <_patrick> should i switch to ubuntu
[09:57] <jahshua> grep
[09:57] <jahshua> something
[09:57] <jahshua> patrcik its easy
[09:57] <jahshua> what do you use now
[09:58] <_patrick> im using kubuntu
[09:58] <jahshua> oh sorry
[09:58] <jahshua> misread
[09:58] <_patrick> and i dunno how to install
[09:58] <sampan> jahsua, grep is itself a program that takes a string (or output from another command/program/file) and locates matching strings
[09:58] <jahshua> ok
[09:58] <sampan> jahshua  to run a program you installed, assuming it's located in your PATH, you should just have to type the program's name at the CLI
[09:59] <sampan> jahshua  for example, to start pysol, i just type: pysol  -- and it runs
[09:59] <jahshua> its not working for me
[09:59] <jahshua> :/
[09:59] <arafat> jahshua: mayber that helps: type: dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin
[09:59] <bkw> when connecting a ext usb hdd I get a msg about that media:sdb1 does not exist, but the disk is still mounted as /media/EXT
[10:00] <jahshua> arafat thanks
[10:00] <sampan> yeah, some packages have very cryptic exectable names ... so arafat's command should tell you what the name of the exectable is
[10:00] <sampan> s/exectable/executable
[10:00] <arafat> :-)
[10:01] <sampan> alphabet soup of names ;D
[10:01] <bkw> I've even tried creating /media/sdb1, but still a window tells me that "media:sdb1" doesn't exist
[10:02] <tmr> :)
[10:05] <jahshua> i just tried to run a program i installed form adept and i got this error
[10:05] <jahshua> Error reading file /etc/firestarter/inbound/allow-from: No such file or directory
[10:05] <jahshua> Error reading file /etc/firestarter/inbound/allow-service: No such file or directory
[10:05] <_robin> hey! can i get decoder plugins for kaffeine with apt-get?? and how??
[10:06] <andreas_> can I change my sources.list from breezy to dapper and do a dist-upgrade? Or will there be tons of problems? I m using kde 3.5 now
[10:07] <jjesse> andreas_: yes you can, that's what i have done w/ no issues on my laptop
[10:07] <andreas_> I see
[10:07] <andreas_> I have lots of apps installed, I expect there will be some quirks
[10:07] <andreas_> !sourcea
[10:07] <andreas_> !sources
[10:08] <andreas_> hurr
[10:08] <andreas_> !sources.list
[10:08] <andreas_> come on
[10:08] <_robin> !kaffeine
[10:08] <andreas_> oh, wait
[10:09] <jjesse> andreas_: just do a kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <andreas_> is ubuntu the bot that does this?
[10:09] <bkw> Should there be any session manager in Kde-components?
[10:09] <_robin> hey! can i get decoder plugins for kaffeine with apt-get?? and how??
[10:09] <jjesse> andreas_:  and search for breezy and replace it w/ dapper
[10:09] <andreas_> yeah allright
[10:09] <sampan> jahshua  did you run firestarter with "sudo"?  usually when i've installed it, first run walks me through a set up wizard
[10:11] <bkw> Can anyone please click K-system, right click adept and give me the command line?
[10:12] <ubuntu> how would one install kubuntu from the live cd?
[10:12] <ubuntu> its version 5.10
[10:12] <sampan> ubuntu, you don't.  you need the kubuntu install cd
[10:12] <ubuntu> ah
[10:12] <ubuntu> i think i am thinknig of knoppix
[10:12] <ubuntu> you can install from the live cd on that
[10:13] <sampan> yeah, mepis (and a couple other distros) too
[10:13] <sampan> ubuntu/kubuntu have separate disks though
[10:14] <bkw> sampan: can you please give me the command line when clicking "edit adept" ?
[10:14] <sampan> bkw, yeah ... in kmenu, right?
[10:14] <bkw> yup
[10:14] <jahshua> sampan i ran it with sudo yes, those errors came up in the back ground but the firestarted dialog box did also pop up
[10:14] <jahshua> but i exited
[10:14] <jahshua> just tomake sure
[10:15] <andreas_> jjesse, it says it will REMOVE kubuntu-desktop, is this allright?
[10:15] <sampan> bkw, mine reads: adept %i %m -caption "%c"
[10:15] <bkw> thx
[10:15] <_robin> hey! can i get decoder plugins for kaffeine with apt-get?? and how??
[10:16] <jjesse> it should be fine and then will install the new kubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <andreas_> ok
[10:16] <bkw> _robin: I want that too..
[10:16] <sampan> jahsua, :)  exiting early probably meant it didn't write all the files it needs.  if you finish going through the setup wizard it should work right (though firestarter should be started with sudo or kdesu anyway)
[10:16] <jahshua> sampan should i go ahead and use the program anyway
[10:16] <sampan> bkw, sure np :)
[10:17] <jahshua> Warning: External interface previously configured not found
[10:17] <jahshua> Warning: Internal interface previously configured not found
[10:17] <bkw> Can kaffine handle most filetypes, such as mpeg, divx, dvd etc?
[10:18] <jahshua> sampan, what does that mean
[10:18] <sampan> jahshua  i dunno for sure ... but it sounds like it didn't finish configuring and is sending warnings about it.  there's an option to do "set up" or configuration again in firestarter, i suggest you use it
[10:19] <sampan> it's the "run wizard" under the first menu at top
[10:24] <_robin> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found.  what do i need??
[10:26] <crimsun> _robin: you need libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools
[10:26] <_robin> crimsun: oh Thanx!!
[10:37] <_robin> Pussyman i am!!
[10:37] <rzei> hey everyone! could someone tell me in what phase is dapper? i mean, is the flight 2 something like RC2 or are release candidates still far away?
[10:38] <sander> 4 months away from release
[10:38] <rzei> aah, so i don't think i want that.. how about using kde 3.5 with breeze, is it "stable"?
[10:39] <rzei> and by "stable" i mean, well.. somewhat stable :) for everyday use
[10:41] <hugelmopf> rzei: it seems fairly stable with a few minor mainly visual bugs
[10:41] <hugelmopf> for example, for me konqueror does not focus the address bar on startup :(
[10:43] <rzei> is the upgrading easy as adding that 3.5 directory into apt-sources and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[10:43] <hugelmopf> rzei: it should be. if i recall correctly, it was easy for me.
[10:47] <hugelmopf> maybe you want to try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of the plain upgrade
[10:49] <hugelmopf> which ever one seems to work better.
[10:49] <rzei> hmm why would you think dist-upgrade would work better?
[10:50] <hugelmopf> it is more flexible with upgrading dependencies. try what both tell you and decide yourself.
[10:51] <sander> dist-upgrade is more aggressive about resolving dependencies from my experience.
[10:53] <kkathman> just as a note...3.5 may cause some disturbances on some systems
[10:53] <LeeJunFan> except for mine, I am the golden child. :)
[10:53] <kkathman> lol
[10:53] <kkathman> of course you are LeeJunFan :)
[10:53] <LeeJunFan> That's what they tell me.
[10:53] <kkathman> hehe
[10:53] <LeeJunFan> Those voices in my head.
[10:54] <kkathman> I havent tried it, just spent alot of time with distraught people in here that did :)
[10:54] <LeeJunFan> bah, that's like being a single marriage counselor.
[10:55] <kkathman> well...you notice I dont tell people one way or another
[10:55] <kkathman> but its naive and stupid to tell people to upgrade, just because it worked fine on their system also :)
[10:55] <kkathman> every system is different and used differently too
[10:56] <kkathman> so some will have massive probs...others wont have a problem at all
[10:58] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: true, plus the size of people problems are relative to the level of their skill.
[10:58] <kkathman> thats right...and you dont know from one person to the next what their skill level is
[10:58] <kkathman> so, thats why I always tell them you might experience problems
[10:58] <kkathman> cuz they might
[10:59] <kkathman> and your install might be a very different situation
[10:59] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: but just to write off the 3.5 issues to
[11:00] <kkathman> "people problems" is elitist and arrogant to most newbies too
[11:00] <RabidGoblin> !nvidia
[11:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:00] <kkathman> those people need to go to the "gentoo and slack" channels and join their arrogant  friends
[11:00] <seth_k|lappy> kkathman++ :)
[11:01] <kkathman> hey there seth_k|lappy :)
[11:01] <sander> I don't use KDE fulltime, but I never have too many problems. The occasional Konqueror crash, and for some reason on many distros and flavors of KDE it always seems to crash when shutting down.
[11:01] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: yeah, I like slack except for the LACK that's included in it. ie. lack of architechtures, and lack of package manager.
[11:02] <_robin> when i open an text document that was on windows i cant get the letters  what do i need to get those??
[11:02] <LeeJunFan> sander: kde krashes? (pun intended) or just konqueror?
[11:03] <randabis> _robin: maybe msstruetypefonts
[11:03] <randabis> ms
[11:04] <sander> Something crashes as I shut down. The crash window comes up briefly then shutdown as normal. I've seen it on Suse, Kubuntu and (I think) Fedora on 3.3+ I never know what it is and if it has to get a crash out of its system, that's the time to do it. :)
[11:04] <_robin> randabis: cant fint it
[11:06] <randabis> _robin: have you tried out automatix? it's great for getting the initial stuff setup like true type fonts, etc
[11:07] <_robin> randabis: no, where do i find that??
[11:10] <randabis> _robin: check out this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105343
[11:12] <Dave44> anyone know the answer to the too sensitive touchpad problem on 5.10
[11:13] <randabis> sensitive in what way?
[11:14] <Dave44> can't surf properly, slightest touch on a link and it loads the link
[11:14] <_robin> when i open an text document that was on windows i cant get the letters  what do i need to get those?? automatix just crashed
[11:19] <Snake__> How do I uncompress a .rar?
[11:19] <Snake__> Anyone
[11:19] <randabis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105343
[11:19] <Snake__> !rar
[11:19] <ubotu> methinks rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[11:19] <randabis> !mstruetype
[11:19] <ubotu> randabis: Not a clue
[11:20] <randabis> !mstruetypefonts
[11:20] <ubotu> randabis: Are you on ritalin?
[11:20] <randabis> yes
[11:20] <randabis> !fonts
[11:20] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:20] <randabis> !microsoft
[11:20] <ubotu> randabis: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:20] <randabis> ha
[11:20] <randabis> !cookies
[11:20] <ubotu> randabis: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:20] <randabis> sometimes they do
[11:21] <randabis> ok no more bot flooding
[11:21] <randabis> :)
[11:23] <_robin> i cant find ant mstruetypefonts trie everything in adept
[11:23] <_robin> any*
[11:24] <Lacerta> heya
[11:24] <Lacerta> i just installed kubuntu for third time
[11:25] <Lacerta> can somebody help me with the network?
[11:26] <Lacerta> or to post me a link to a site that explains it
[11:26] <kakei> Lacerta
[11:26] <kakei> what are u trying
[11:27] <Lacerta> i'm trying to share the internet connection through this (winXP) computer
[11:27] <VincentMX> off to bed
[11:27] <VincentMX> bye
[11:29] <_robin> i cant find any mstruetypefonts tried everything in adept. are they called anything else
[11:29] <kakei> Lacerta
[11:29] <kakei> Lacerta
[11:29] <Lacerta> .
[11:29] <kakei> do u have a root password?
[11:29] <Lacerta> sure
[11:29] <kakei> ok
[11:29] <kakei> type su
[11:30] <Lacerta> yeah
[11:30] <kakei> iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface #puthere ur network adapter (maybe eth0) -j ACCEPT
[11:30] <kakei> now
[11:30] <kakei> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:30] <kakei> and finnally
[11:30] <RetardPoopsmith> there
[11:30] <kakei> ifconfig eth1 192.168.6.1
[11:31] <kakei> in ur windows box put : the gateway is 192.168.6.1 and put any ip what u want for the windows box (192.168.6.Anyrange)
[11:33] <jpliberato> hi everybody, I have both kde and gnome installed on my ubuntu machine, and I'd like to make kdm the default display manager.  How can it be done?
[11:35] <Lacerta> kakei: su won't take my password
[11:35] <slow-motion> bbl
[11:35] <AK001> when I try to boot from kubuntu, it always fails wehn trying to enter the preinstalled step. Anyone know why?
[11:35] <kakei> Lacerta u most assign it
[11:35] <kakei> sudo su
[11:35] <kakei> and put ur pw
[11:35] <Lacerta> aah
[11:36] <Lacerta> okay
[11:36] <ninnghizidha> If i change my userpw, will the root-pw change too?
[11:43] <jpliberato> hi everybody, I have both kde and gnome installed on my ubuntu machine, and I'd like to make kdm the default display manager.  How can it be done?
[11:43] <kakei> Lacerta let my know if it work
[11:43] <crimsun> jpliberato: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:44] <Lacerta> kakei: i think i need to install some drivers first
[11:44] <jpliberato> thanks
[11:44] <hyperactivecrond> problem: my artsd keeps repeatedly crashing... *gets errors ready*
[11:44] <kakei> Lacerta no u dont
[11:44] <dunar> strana chat
[11:44] <crimsun> jpliberato: what's the output from that command?
[11:44] <Lacerta> kakei: i have only "lo" in my interfaces
[11:44] <dunar> c' qlc italiano???
[11:44] <jpliberato> crimsun: /usr/sbin/gdm
[11:45] <crimsun> jpliberato: which kdm
[11:45] <dunar> pronto?????
[11:45] <dunar> ok vi saluto
[11:45] <kakei> hmmmmm
[11:45] <kakei> do u have ur interfaces connected?
[11:45] <jpliberato> crimsun: done.  I'll restart.  Thanks!
[11:45] <hyperactivecrond> !it
[11:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:45] <hyperactivecrond> dunar: ^^
[11:47] <Lacerta> kakei: no
[11:47] <hyperactivecrond> artsd keeps dying with the error: can't create mcop directory
[11:47] <randabis> hmm
[11:47] <Lacerta> kakei: when i try to enable them in the system settings it doesn't work
[11:48] <hyperactivecrond> any ideas on how to fix this
[11:53] <hyperactivecrond> what gets rid of all kde packages?
[11:53] <hyperactivecrond> s/kde/arts
[11:56] <hyperactivecrond> hmm maybe i have fixed it...
[11:56] <hyperactivecrond> idk yet...