[12:00] <solomon> Well, now lets see what all I can break in the name if 'learning. Take cate and thanks for the help.
[12:00] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy: hi again 2.6.12 booted, so I guess I have to remove the other entries from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:00] <solomon> Er, take care...
[12:00] <M_Cheevy> solomon: de nada
[12:00] <soundray> slavefree, http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[12:00] <_jason> Kris, some people need to change their vid driver to 'vesa' to get X going and then install the proprietary drivers... but I've only seen your "still no X" comment so I don't know the whole story
[12:00] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: how odd.
[12:00] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: only for housekeeping reasons (neatness)....
[12:01] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: I installed 'hoary' originally, and had probably edited sudoers by the time I upgraded to breezy.  how about you?
[12:01] <Kris> _jason, I've reinstalled xserver-xorg, redid my breezy install, and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember :(
[12:01] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: it's not a showstopper but non-firewalled connections are better. are you running firestarter or someting? your isp may also firewall the standard gnutella port
[12:01] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: ubuntu -> kubuntu -> kde 3.5.. been through a few changes.. that plus it was a debootstrap install not the usual d-i install
[12:01] <todd> Anyone try getting wireless working on a Dell D600 Laptop??
[12:01] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: which version of ubuntu though first?
[12:01] <_jason> Kris, try the vesa thing
[12:01] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[12:01] <Kris> _jason, after upgrading to breezy I could not get into gnome, I've tried damn near every suggestion everyone's given
[12:01] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: clean install.. wiped the disk before installing ubuntu... had tried debian sarge first
[12:01] <Kris> it worked fine on hoary
[12:02] <Kris> how do I do the vesa thing?
[12:02] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: btw, now that i opened gtk-gnutella, it is complaining of its oldness :)
[12:02] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, how do I check for firewall? I just installed this yesterday... not aware of any firewall but gtk -gnutella says Im using one
[12:02] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: right, but breezy?  or hoary?  or warty?
[12:02] <CaptainMorgan> mine tooo :)
[12:02] <Kartagis> I have another problem now with alsa. it says at startup alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for control #39 (No such file or directory). how do I fix that?
[12:02] <_jason> Kris, edit xorg.conf and in the section that has the properties for the video card, change the driver to 'vesa'
[12:02] <oscar> hola alguien sabe de algun cliente p2p para amd64
[12:02] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: this is my first time in this distribution... breezy... just finished the install (after about 70hrs) yesterday... (booting from sata (fake)raid)
[12:02] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: then you're not firewalled on your own machine. perhaps chsnging the port in gtk-gnutella settings might help
[12:03] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: your isp might be blocking the default
[12:03] <soundray> !es
[12:03] <ubotflu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:03] <dooglus> the sound in linux really needs sorting out.  I just needed to record something.  I tried in dapper, with OSS and alsa, but nothing worked.  so I booted into breezy, same problem, only now sound-recorder is crashing.  I ended up going back into Windows XP where it worked immediately.
[12:03] <chapium> after installing ubuntu i get the following message:
[12:03] <Hattori> to install a full language package, wich packages i need to install?
[12:03] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: I wonder if they changed the admin group from 'admin' to 'adm' then.  it's funny that there are both groups anyway
[12:03] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, I remember switching a port for vindoze ftp'ng... ... I need to open router, reserver a port and tell gnutella the port number.. as if to bypass isp's
[12:03] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[12:03] <chapium> Uncompressing Linux....
[12:03] <chapium> crc error
[12:03] <chapium> --system halted
[12:04] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: I'm using the w32codecs and xine for audio/video
[12:04] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: for recording from a mic?
[12:04] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: if you have both, I'd say they changed...
[12:04] <Kris> ok changed driver to vesa
[12:04] <Kris> now what?
[12:04] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: haven't tried that but as all my other sound stuff is working....
[12:04] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, like port forwarding.. triggering ?
[12:04] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: yes. use some weird port that's over 1500 or something like that
[12:04] <M_Cheevy> douglas: gonna work on firewire dv editing and wacom tablets next
[12:04] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: you can just change it in gtk-gnutella
[12:04] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: I have both 'admin' and 'adm' on a fresh dapper install too.
[12:05] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, know of the link that lists free ports ?
[12:05] <M_Cheevy> Capt: hmm sounds like they went back to admin from adm
[12:05] <_jason> Kris, just try to start X I guess
[12:05] <CaptainMorgan> M_Cheevy, ?
[12:05] <Kris> how do I start X?
[12:05] <Kris> >.<
[12:05] <_jason> Kris, and cross your fingers
[12:05] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: not really, just use a very high port like 10017 or whatever
[12:05] <Kris> startx does not exist
[12:05] <_jason> Kris, oh
[12:06] <MotorCityMadMan> i newly installed ubuntu today and i'm in need of a starting point (only used win o/s) i wood like to update firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5 / where wood i save the new file too?
[12:06] <Kris> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start doesn't do anything but return me to a prompt
[12:06] <slavefree> Kris,  do apt-get install xdm to the the startx
[12:06] <M_Cheevy> Capt: dooglus has 'admin' left over from warty, I only have breeze and have 'adm', you, in dapper have both again... I assumed it came back...
[12:06] <dooglus> Kris: what about 'restart' instead of 'start'?
[12:06] <CaptainMorgan> gnutella is listing port 15143 but i donno.. why there's no results..
[12:06] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: I never installed warty
[12:06] <M_Cheevy> Kris: sounds like either it's already running or you're xorg.conf is scootched up
[12:06] <crimsun> M_Cheevy: there is no admin group in Warty; it was added in Hoary.
[12:07] <CaptainMorgan> M_Cheevy, who are you talking to ??
[12:07] <_jason> Kris, you have the xinit package installed?  that's what owns startx here
[12:07] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: d'oh, my bad....
[12:07] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: and it was me who said I had both again in dapper...  I don't think CaptainMorgan had anything to do with it
[12:07] <soundray> chapium, did you say this was a fresh install?
[12:07] <Kris> restart puts me back at a prompt also
[12:07] <_jason> Kris, you installed ubuntu-desktop right?
[12:07] <Kris> yes
[12:07] <M_Cheevy> Sorry CaptainMorgan, thought you'd be familiar with the abbreviation "Capt"
[12:07] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[12:07] <Kris> I'll try installing xdm I guess
[12:07] <dooglus> what's the ubuntu way of building a package from source?
[12:07] <CaptainMorgan> M_Cheevy, <tab> to do nick completion
[12:07] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: btw, the new version seems to come stylishly in debian packages: http://snipurl.com/kvzn
[12:07] <_jason> Kris, that's really weird...
[12:07] <dooglus> so that the patches get applied, the configure gets run, or whatever needs doing?
[12:08] <crimsun> dooglus: apt-get build-dep package && apt-get -b source package
[12:08] <M_Cheevy> been looking at this bloody screen too long.. it's all starting to run together....
[12:08] <Kris> I don't know about xinit I'll try that too
[12:08] <Kris> brb
[12:08] <slavefree> Kris the xdm is the x-windows manager   xinit is initiated by startx
[12:08] <_jason> Kris, ubuntu-desktop should pull in xinit
[12:08] <M_Cheevy> CaptainMorgan: old dog, old tricks and the list of new tricks to learn is long enough....
[12:08] <dooglus> crimsun: thanks.  I'll try that.
[12:08] <dooglus> crimsun: and if I want to turn on debugging?
[12:09] <crimsun> dooglus: then set the appropriate debhelper environment variable
[12:09] <slavefree> ubuntu-desktop sets up the gdm   or gnome desktop manager
[12:09] <dooglus> crimsun: is there a man page?
[12:09] <slavefree> kubuntu-desktop sets up the kdm or the kde desktop manager
[12:09] <crimsun> dooglus: there are many; try searching the Debian New Maintainer's Guide
[12:10] <bofheaven> Kris: believe it or not, Linux has this directory, known as "/var/log" and in that directory, are all kinds of neat-o logs which describe what is happening with certain aspects of your system.  One of those logs, /var/log/Xorg.0.log may be helpful in solving your little issue there....maybe....
[12:10] <Zscach> COME ON PPL!!
[12:10] <soundray> Zscach, how much memory in your graphics card?
[12:10] <Zscach> soundray, 2mb
[12:10] <soundray> Zscach, no need to SHOUT!
[12:10] <Zscach> soundray, ive been asking for over half an hour
[12:11] <tapox> Anyone know if there's a Breezy package for Gaim 2.0 beta?
[12:11] <KrisWood> woot
[12:11] <KrisWood> Got a different error for once
[12:11] <todd> Dell D600 Laptop and Wireless... any get this to work??
[12:11] <_jason> tapox, it was jsut released and it's beta...
[12:11] <dooglus> crimsun: is it worth submitting bug reports for packages in dapper?
[12:11] <M_Cheevy> crimsun: seems I'm having some permission problems on the /tmp/ area... when I try and run superkaramba it gripes about uids and permissions.. I thought /tmp was generated dynamically, where do I set the uid's and permissions for /tmp?  /dev/fstab?
[12:11] <crimsun> tapox: no, there's not even a Dapper package yet.
[12:11] <slavefree> if you default to kdm you have multi session options including gnome, kde, and xfce if you load ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop in that order and default to kdm also gives you a bash shell option.  This is with Breezy
[12:11] <topyli> perhaps people have missed the question on this busy channel, or simply don't know
[12:11] <crimsun> dooglus: absolutely, it's preferred
[12:11] <KrisWood> (EE) No input driver matching 'vesa'
[12:11] <KrisWood> doh
[12:11] <soundray> Zscach, yeah, well, I've been asking questions here for days. You want free, competent help, you're going to wait around for someone competent.
[12:11] <KrisWood> I changed the wrong driver I think
[12:12] <KrisWood> woot x started!
[12:12] <KrisWood> omg
[12:12] <KrisWood> briefly
[12:12] <_jason> KrisWood, lol
[12:12] <bofheaven> eureka!
[12:12] <KrisWood> now we've got different errors
[12:12] <topyli> heh
[12:12] <Seveas> KrisWood, :)
[12:12] <KrisWood> but xinit is what finally started it
[12:12] <toya_> can anyone help me
[12:12] <Kris> woot
[12:12] <Zscach> soundray, I have been in this forum nearly everyday for 1 month OK! only as little help! :(
[12:12] <toya_> im trying to modify my grub bootloader
[12:12] <corresponder> and?
[12:13] <toya_> i opened the menu.lst
[12:13] <Kartagis> Seveas: I have another problem now with alsa. it says at startup alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for control #39 (No such file or directory). how do I fix that?
[12:13] <toya_> its read only
[12:13] <thesilentkiller> hi guys.....to access websites that work ONLY on IE...how do those running Ubuntu work around?
[12:13] <M_Cheevy> KrisWood: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[12:13] <mwe> toya_: sudo edit it
[12:13] <toya_> hmm ho
[12:13] <dooglus> crimsun: is it expected that "apt-get -b source <package>" will rebuild the whole package each time I run it?
[12:13] <toya_> w
[12:13] <toya_> im new to linux
[12:13] <Seveas> thesilentkiller, poke the "webmaster" to fix his crap
[12:13] <Kris> sh: /usr/X11R6/lib/xkb/xkbcomp: No such file or directory
[12:13] <Kris> Couldn't compile keymap file
[12:13] <crimsun> dooglus: given that there's no extracted source already, yes
[12:13] <mrkoje> thesilentkiller,  you could always install wine and then isntall IE
[12:13] <bofheaven> M_Cheevy: i believe he has tried that and every  other voodoo incantation under the sun!
[12:14] <toya_> mwe, does it have to be done in terminal
[12:14] <soundray> Zscach, what have you tried yourself in order to solve this problem?
[12:14] <mwe> toya_: A normal user can't edit menu.lst
[12:14] <dooglus> crimsun: there is extracted source after the first time I run it, isn't there?
[12:14] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: that's why I asked rather than told
[12:14] <Kris> (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
[12:14] <thesilentkiller> mrkoje: is wine free? i spose not
[12:14] <crimsun> dooglus: of course
[12:14] <mwe> toya_: so you need sudo to do it
[12:14] <dooglus> crimsun: so the 2nd time, why rebuild the whole thing again?
[12:14] <chtamina> Hi guys, I'm experiencing some problems with ubuntu and fluxbox: I start with fluxbox but I can't see anything. If I rightclick on the desktop I've got just three voice: konsolle, reboot and quit
[12:14] <mrkoje> thesilentkiller,  yes its free,,,, but crossover office isn't
[12:14] <crimsun> dooglus: it won't; you misinterpreted my statement.
[12:14] <mrkoje> thesilentkiller,  and Im not sure how easy it would be isntalling ie with wine
[12:14] <Zscach> soundray, changed the Xorg.conf file HEAPS!! and folowed HEAPS of web instructions
[12:15] <mwe> toya_: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst. you can press alt-f2 and type it if you like
[12:15] <thesilentkiller> mrkoje: hmm ok thanks..thats a start..i will check it out
[12:15] <slavefree> toya_    try         sudo gedit menu.lst   type in your user password when it asks for a password
[12:15] <dooglus> crimsun: I did?
[12:15] <bofheaven> M_Cheevy: d'oh?  gah? myeuhh...
[12:15] <crimsun> dooglus: yes.
[12:15] <dooglus> crimsun: how?
[12:15] <topyli> Zscach: since nobody knows what to do, you could try reconfiguring X with debconf. other than that, you may have broken hardware there
[12:15] <crimsun> dooglus: read it as "If there is no extracted source, it will be [compiled again] ."
[12:15] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: ;) no worries mate... not used to looking for manners on irc ;)
[12:15] <mwe> toya_: however, I'd make a backup first
[12:16] <chtamina> any help ?
[12:16] <Zscach> topyli, i have reinstalled recently
[12:16] <Kris> ok stumped again
[12:16] <bofheaven> M_Cheevy: werd up! threw me another shrimp on the barbee mate!
[12:16] <dooglus> crimsun: I ran "apt-get -b source passwd".  it downloaded the source and built it.  then I ran the same command again, in the same place.  it skipped downloading the source, but it built the whole thing again.
[12:16] <soundray> Zscach, broken hw is a definite possibility. Still, I would try hardcoding the video memory size in xorg.conf
[12:16] <Zscach> topyli, its a driver problem
[12:16] <Kris> what is an XKB keymap and how do I fix it?
[12:16] <toya_> mwe, slavefree, thx
[12:16] <crimsun> dooglus: yeah, that's what -b does...
[12:16] <toya_> quick question tho
[12:16] <topyli> Zscach: could you try with a live cd, preferably another distribution? than you'd know if it's an ubuntu problem
[12:16] <toya_> how do you change to sudo mode
[12:17] <toya_> without actually giving a command
[12:17] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: that's Australia... I'm in the place NOT made up of deportees... New Zealand ;)
[12:17] <dooglus> crimsun: should I run that command as root?  I see an error: "dh_testroot: You must run this as root (or use fakeroot)."
[12:17] <Zscach> topyli, it worked on knopix...
[12:17] <crimsun> dooglus: no, install fakeroot and devscripts
[12:17] <_jason> toya_, sudo -s
[12:17] <Zscach> topyli, temporarily... :(
[12:17] <chtamina> guys when I try to play divx file I get a small green rectangle over the image, in the corner: any Ideas ?
[12:17] <bofheaven> M_Cheevy: oh, but all your culture comes from there?  hence, the "mate" >
[12:17] <mwe> toya_: you can open a terminal. then type sudo -i to get a root prompt. use with care though
[12:17] <topyli> Zscach: in the distant past, or just recently?
[12:18] <dooglus> crimsun: and add "fakeroot" in front of "apt-get"?  or not?
[12:18] <Kris> ...?
[12:18] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: habit I picked up in the states actually
[12:18] <bofheaven> M_Cheevy: sorry, geography is my weakest knowledge
[12:18] <toya_> hmm
[12:18] <toya_> so sudo -i is like changing to root user?
[12:18] <toya_> sudo -r is current user sudo
[12:18] <Zscach> topyli, gtg :(
[12:18] <mwe> toya_: yeah
[12:18] <mwe> toya_: use with care!
[12:18] <soundray> Zscach, under Driver "trident", add VideoRam 2048
[12:18] <toya_> ok thx
[12:19] <bofheaven> I thought New Zealand was a province of Canada!
[12:19] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: as for our culture coming from there, that's like saying canadian culture comes from the US... you can't create something from nothing ;)
[12:19] <toya_> lol
[12:19] <crimsun> dooglus: yes, or use debuild binary, or use fakeroot debian/rules binary, ...
[12:19] <bofheaven> maybe that's New Fundland!
[12:19] <mkyb14> has anyone else gotten ati drivers to work.  i followed the wiki and it says i have mesa drivers.. what the hell is that
[12:19] <jhenn> anyone know the forum post about how to install cairo themes
[12:19] <toya_> is this can only be done trough terminal?
[12:19] <toya_> how bout the log in as different user
[12:19] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy:  I have another problem now with alsa. it says at startup alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for control #39 (No such file or directory). how do I fix that?
[12:19] <K^Holtz> can someone please help me install ubuntu? im having all kinds of problems, and no1 has answered any of them so far
[12:20] <Madpilot> toya_: that wouldn't work w/ sudo
[12:20] <mwe> toya_: yeah. you should not log into X as root. beeing root all the time is a very bad idea anyway
[12:20] <bofheaven> M_Cheevy what about the Matu Matu of Borneo? they are completely isolated, but have their own culture...AND they use Ubuntu Linux!
[12:20] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: now you're pulling my leg!  NF and NZ are almost exactly a world apart
[12:20] <K^Holtz> im getting an error reading from CD-Rom
[12:20] <Kris> could anyone help me fix my XKB keymap? :-/
[12:20] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: cool for them ;)
[12:20] <K^Holtz> i have tried multiple install cds and a live cd.. always getting the same error
[12:20] <sethk> M_Cheevy, what's 8000 miles?
[12:20] <M_Cheevy> sethk: about 24hrs in a plane ;)
[12:20] <toya_> mwe, how do i change the prompt text
[12:21] <toya_> mwe, or my network name rather
[12:21] <mwe> toya_: PS1="my cool prompt: "
[12:21] <toya_> mwe,  i mean my comp name
[12:21] <Papoose> K^Holtz, did yoiu try a different optical drive?
[12:21] <bofheaven> spaceflights from new york to moscow will take less than an hour!  but they won't use Ubuntu Linux, so i better hush about it...
[12:22] <mwe> toya_: /etc/hostname and probably /etc/hosts too
[12:22] <K^Holtz> Papoose: well, i would like to boot from my cd burner.. but for some reason its not showing up in my boot order in bios
[12:22] <soundray> K^Holtz, is it a SATA drive?
[12:22] <toya_> mwe,  ic thx
[12:22] <mwe> toya_: again you need sudo to do it. and make backups!
[12:23] <Kartagis> hello?
[12:23] <toya_> mwe,  is there a way to open terminal on current directory?
[12:23] <K^Holtz> well.. i dont think it is soundray    its just an acer burner..
[12:23] <Kris> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53087
[12:23] <Kris> this seems to be the same problem I'm having now
[12:23] <Kris> I'll try that xkbutils
[12:23] <Kris> brb
[12:23] <soundray> K^Holtz, brand new? Months old? Years old?
[12:23] <mwe> toya_: I use kde. I'm not that into gnome, but I think you can do it from the filemanager somehow
[12:23] <K^Holtz> soundray probably years old
[12:23] <_jason> toya_, install nautilus-open-terminal
[12:24] <K^Holtz> its 24X10X40
[12:24] <bofheaven> here's some weird advice: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458  :-/
[12:24] <K^Holtz> it was given to me by a freiend.. so i dunno its age
[12:24] <ElitePete> bofheaven, eww microsoft
[12:24] <soundray> K^Holtz, have you got a floppy drive?
[12:24] <K^Holtz> yes
[12:24] <toya_> _jason, k thx
[12:25] <soundray> K^Holtz, you could write a smart boot manager disk and try with that.
[12:25] <mkyb14> i'm constantly getting "sudo: cannot get working directory
[12:25] <mkyb14> " in my terminal... what happened?
[12:25] <K^Holtz> soundray, how do i do that?
[12:26] <M_Cheevy> bofheaven: wishful thinking on the part of Microslop
[12:26] <K^Holtz> i currently have windows installed on the pc... is there a way to install ubuntu w/o using the cd rom? like offline or something
[12:26] <soundray> K^Holtz, in the /install dir on the CD, there is a file sbm.bin...
[12:26] <supercres> what is the best way to install a mame  on hoary? (i am a n00b)
[12:27] <soundray> K^Holtz, I think ubotu knows something about it...
[12:27] <Matrixritter> n8 all
[12:27] <soundray> !smart boot manager
[12:27] <ubotflu> soundray: Syntax error in line 1
[12:27] <soundray> !smartbootmanager
[12:27] <ubotflu> soundray: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:27] <bofheaven> hee hee...Microshaft!
[12:27] <toya_> _jason, does kubuntu uses sudo system too?
[12:27] <soundray> K^Holtz, okay, maybe not, but there is a README in that directory, too.
[12:27] <toya_> use88
[12:27] <bofheaven> toya_ : yesh it do!
[12:28] <JohnP789> Can Windows XP Home connect to a Samba share with user-level security?
[12:28] <crimsun> JohnP789: yes
[12:28] <bofheaven> JohnP789: Absotively!
[12:28] <JohnP789> I've got a "public =  yes" share on my Samba server, but I can't find a username/password that works when connecting from XP Home.
[12:28] <_jason> toya_, I take it you don't like sudo?
[12:28] <toya_> hah ok
[12:28] <Kyral> I've made it happen lol
[12:28] <toya_> not used to it
[12:28] <toya_> i read a linux tutorial on some website
[12:28] <Kartagis> hello? anyone to help me?
[12:28] <mkyb14> no takers on the "sudo: cannot get working directory
[12:28] <mkyb14> "?
[12:29] <toya_> oh btw i just installed ubuntu today
[12:29] <JohnP789> How do I tell XP Home that it doesn't need a password to map the drive?
[12:29] <bestadvocate> hello, can anyone tell me how to load up a new iPod with MP3's with gnome?
[12:29] <ElitePete> bestadvocate, mail me the ipod i'll load it up ;-)
[12:29] <_jason> toya_, I'd give it a try, you'll get used to it... if you end up preferring root you can always enable it, it's your choise.  But try getting used to sudo for a week or so.
[12:29] <toya_> iTunes?
[12:29] <bofheaven> JohnP789: you should be prompted for authentication credentials when attempting to connect to the share, and those should be the same as yer ubuntu linux user account credentials and suchforth
[12:29] <mwe> toya_: get used to it. It's NOT a good idea beeing superuser (root) all the time
[12:29] <bestadvocate> thanks their elitepete, ill get right on that
[12:29] <toya_> yeah
[12:29] <ElitePete> bestadvocate, i figured you'd like that idea
[12:30] <soundray> !sbm
[12:30] <JohnP789> bofheaven, but it's a "public = yes" resource.  I want to let anybody use it.
[12:30] <ubotflu> soundray: I give up, what is it?
[12:30] <ElitePete> !test
[12:30] <ubotflu> Passed.
[12:30] <mwe> toya_: and if you need to do a lot as root use the sudo -i or sudo -s to get a root shell
[12:30] <Kartagis> !quiz
[12:30] <ubotflu> Kartagis: Are you on ritalin?
[12:30] <bofheaven> toya_: there ain't no recycle bin, nor undelete rubbish about any linux up in tha hood, g!
[12:30] <Kartagis> ubotflu: yes I am
[12:30] <ubotflu> Kartagis: What?
[12:30] <bestadvocate> aparently, its not designed to play any file you just drag on to the pod
[12:30] <soundray> K^Holtz, still on?
[12:30] <Kartagis> ubotflu: I said I was on ritalin
[12:30] <ubotflu> I don't know, Kartagis
[12:31] <toya_> it's kinda weird
[12:31] <Kartagis> ubotflu: good boy
[12:31] <toya_> i dont get it
[12:31] <ubotflu> :)
[12:31] <toya_> when i do sudo -s
[12:31] <toya_> it doesnt ask for password
[12:31] <toya_> didnt*
[12:31] <JohnP789> bofheaven, I can smbmount it with a guest username and no password from a Linux box.  I'd like to do the same from XP Home.
[12:31] <bofheaven> needs to be "gust ok = yes" JohnP789...
[12:31] <toya_> argh@
[12:31] <jahshua> yone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[12:31] <kinection> hello, I have a problem installing ubuntu on to a system that already has a windows partition and a fat32 "share" partition at 10GB. While installing the base system, it gives me an error. "Base System Installation error" The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). And tells me to check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details.
[12:31] <bofheaven> errrrr: "guest ok = YES"
[12:31] <toya_> btw i got a joke abt root user
[12:32] <K^Holtz> soundray yea, im still here
[12:32] <toya_> root user is called a superuser because it has powers far beyond those of mortal users (and it's not even affected by kryptonite).
[12:32] <mwe> toya_: Let me tell you a little story. A few years ago I was logged in as root on my slackware system and wanted to delete a directory. I typed rm -rf / path/to/directory. Can you see what that mistake does when you're root?
[12:32] <soundray> K^Holtz, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:32] <toya_> yeah
[12:32] <mwe> toya_: hosed the system
[12:32] <toya_> is it because of the space between / and path
[12:32] <toya_> you deleted the whole linux
[12:32] <kinection> can anybody help me with my installation? It tells me to go to /target/var/log, however, when i go there, there are no files, let alone a bootstrap.log
[12:33] <JohnP789> bofheaven, OK, I've got both guest ok = yes and public = yes.  XP Home is still asking for a user and password.
[12:33] <soundray> mwe, hope you had a backup...
[12:33] <bofheaven> mwe: too many space bar poor man!
[12:33] <mwe> toya_: yeah. but it not hard to do mistakes like that. If I had been normal user my system would have been saved
[12:33] <JohnP789> bofheaven, (And I've done a reload)  :-)
[12:33] <Kyral> JohnP789: Try Guest ;P
[12:33] <bofheaven> JohnP789: XP is mean like that
[12:34] <toya_> mwe, can you tell me how to open the options in firefox
[12:34] <ElitePete> i think since i got ubuntu this time ill get kubuntu next time.
[12:34] <bofheaven> JonP789: make sure to close all Explorer instances, and try again...
[12:34] <Weiss> kinection: run "mount" - does it tell you anything about /target? is it writable?
[12:34] <toya_> mwe, it doesn't have tool -> options like how it does in windows
[12:34] <soundray> mwe, how do you remove a file called '-rf /' ? :)
[12:34] <kinection> Weiss: yea... mount says it's rw
[12:35] <toya_> soundray, -rf is an option
[12:35] <CaptainMorgan> what's a bootstrap ?
[12:35] <mwe> bofheaven: I hit ctrl-c early enough that my homedir wasn't gone, but /sbin and stuff was gone, so I had to reinstall though I saved the data from a live cd
[12:35] <toya_> soundray, i think it means recursive
[12:35] <JohnP789> bofheaven, Nope, still not working.
[12:35] <kinection> Weiss: the partitions are 3 and 7 both ext3. and both rw
[12:35] <kinection> Weiss: i'm also doing this off of DVD
[12:35] <soundray> toya_, I know what it means. But what do you do if you have a file that happens to have that very name?
[12:35] <bofheaven> JP789: "browseable = yes" ?
[12:35] <kinection> Weiss: i'm downloading to CD right now to see if it makes any difference
[12:35] <Weiss> soundray: rm -- -rf
[12:35] <bofheaven> JP: kin ya even see tha share mayuhn?!
[12:36] <soundray> toya_, it's a trick question.
[12:36] <mwe> soundray: it means remove / recursively and don't ask for confirmation
[12:36] <soundray> Weiss knows the answer...
[12:36] <toya_> oh
[12:36] <spanglesontoast> erm does anyone have the multiverse repos etc
[12:36] <JohnP789> bofheaven, browseable = yes already.  Don't know what you mean mayuhn.
[12:36] <bofheaven> mwe: sweet candy...NIX will teach ye the hard way about what it feels like to have yer testicles kicked up into yer chest!
[12:37] <toya_> soundray, hmm i wanna try
[12:37] <kinection> Weiss: if it matters, I think Lilo was installed prior to doing this ubuntu install, and then partitions were wiped with exception of XP
[12:37] <soundray> toya_, no stop!
[12:37] <mwe> bofheaven: yeah :) I learned to stay away from root whenever you can that day.
[12:37] <bofheaven> JP789: you got yerself a connundrum there, mate!
[12:37] <soundray> toya_, better not to mess around with these things... :)
[12:38] <JohnP789> I'll try over in #samba.
[12:38] <toya_> soundray, how do you make a file with name -rf in the first place?
[12:38] <Weiss> kinection: roughly how far had it got through the installation? is it possible the DVD was corrupted?
[12:38] <soundray> toya_, touch -- '-rf \/'
[12:38] <xandron_root> echo "" > -rf
[12:39] <bofheaven> toya_ : touch /home/knucklehead/-rf
[12:39] <flodine> why have the font setup on ubuntu has changed?
[12:39] <flodine> anyone
[12:39] <toya_> bofheaven, LOL
[12:39] <kinection> Weiss: possible DVD corruption (so i'm downloading the CD :)) I wasn't paying attention to how far it went.. but the installation did go for a few minutes after starting the base installation section
[12:39] <soundray> flodine, in the name of progress.
[12:39] <lordlucless> Can anyone tell me what I need to change to stop postfix identifying itselfas localhost.localdomain?
[12:39] <toya_> bofheaven, i'll make sure im not in root folder if i wanna try those things
[12:39] <Kartagis> touch -- '-rf \/'
[12:39] <Kartagis> touch: setting times of `-rf \\/': No such file or directory
[12:39] <SAM_theman> brb
[12:40] <flodine> well soundray i cant get none of the old fonts to work like artwiz
[12:40] <bofheaven> toya_ : no no...just don't BE root!  root folder will laugh at you, and not allow you to do squat as a mortal user
[12:40] <mwe> touch ./-rf will do it
[12:40] <Weiss> kinection: i spent about 20 mins a few weeks ago having a similar problem, before i realised the download hadn't worked properly and i was trying to install Breezy from exactly half an installation CD...  best to check the MD5s to be sure - plus if you choose Expert there's an option to verify the CD efore proceeding
[12:40] <toya_> anyways
[12:40] <toya_> im on xchat right now
[12:40] <pinkisntwell> how can I install xfce on my breezy? will it break anything?
[12:41] <toya_> i think that
[12:41] <kinection> Weiss: alright, i'll do an md5
[12:41] <slavefree> toya_   I am not sure if anyone told you about firefox   edit - preferences   is equivelent to the M$ tools
[12:41] <XiCillin> pinkisntwell, no just apt-get instal xfce
[12:41] <toya_> if a message contains your name it will appear in red, is that right?
[12:41] <kinection> Weiss: are the md5s on ubuntu.com?
[12:41] <XiCillin> then select it in sessions when you logon
[12:41] <amz0r> Hi folks, does anyone use an external usb 2 hub with 5.10 ?
[12:41] <pinkisntwell> XiCillin: that's all?
[12:41] <soundray> flodine, do you still have your pre-upgrade /etc/X11/xorg.conf backed up?
[12:42] <cwin> I'm trying to do a network install of ubuntu onto my laptop (broken CD drive, no floppy drive), and it gets to the "Detecting disks" bit then says it can't detect my drive. I switched to another VT and /dev/hda existed. According to dmesg there was a "DriveSeekError"but I know my HDD is ok.... I can still boot gentoo from it
[12:42] <XiCillin> open synaptic package manager, pinkisntwell. and search for xfce then select it for install it'll select all the dependencies for you
[12:42] <toya_> slavefree, all i can say is holy crap! how did i miss that
[12:42] <toya_> slavefree, and thanks of course
[12:42] <XiCillin> pinkisntwell: then just hit 'apply'
[12:42] <Weiss> kinection: usually there's an md5sum list just next to the files themselves in the download folder on the server. once you've downloaded and burnt, you can check the MD5s of individual files against a similar list in the top level of the CD filesystem with md5sum -c
[12:42] <pinkisntwell> XiCillin: and then I select in on login?
[12:42] <flodine> someone help my font work in preferences but not in a terminal help
[12:42] <flodine> why
[12:43] <bofheaven> flodine: welcome to Linux!
[12:43] <soundray> flodine, do you still have your pre-upgrade /etc/X11/xorg.conf backed up?
[12:43] <flodine> no
[12:43] <cmos_mike> Hi, is/clear
[12:43] <cmos_mike> woops, ehhe
[12:43] <JC> how can i enter to the firefox on shell
[12:43] <kinection> Weiss: i got it off bittorrent... and i just did the integrity test for DVD through install (although it called it a CD-ROM) and it failed.
[12:43] <JC> and navigate
[12:43] <Weiss> kinection: e.g. http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[12:43] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what metacity is?
[12:44] <soundray> flodine, what's the font you're trying to set in terminal?
[12:44] <Weiss> kinection: ah.. that'd explain it :)
[12:44] <crimsun> ElitePete: it's a window manager
[12:44] <JC> what is the command
[12:44] <bofheaven> ElitePete: a window manager for X
[12:44] <kinection> Weiss: probably :)
[12:44] <flodine> soundray artwiz
[12:44] <Kartagis> hello? anyone to help me?
[12:44] <flodine> soundray been all over google
[12:44] <kinection> Weiss: that was my last DVD too :(
[12:44] <ElitePete> i see, how does it compare to gnome?
[12:44] <Weiss> kinection: grr :(
[12:44] <Kartagis> I have a sound problem now with alsa. it says at startup alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for control #39 (No such file or directory). how do I fix that?
[12:44] <bofheaven> ElitePete: it doesn't.... apples / oranges
[12:44] <slavefree> pinkisntwell     sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <soundray> flodine, were you using artwiz as a terminal font before you upgraded?
[12:45] <rickest> doesn't gnome use metacity as its wm?
[12:45] <pinkisntwell> slavefree: yes, what I don't understand is, what will be started when I start my computer? gnome or xfce?
[12:45] <slavefree> oh sorry, I think Xicillin has a better idea
[12:45] <flodine> soundray i didnt upgrade fresh install
[12:45] <crimsun> rickest: yes
[12:45] <bofheaven> ElitePete: Gnome is not a windowmanager
[12:45] <flodine> soundray they worked perfect in hoary
[12:46] <Delvien> anyone know of a good Cellphone transfer tool ??
[12:46] <ElitePete> bofheaven, it isn't?
[12:46] <flodine> soundray just did a reconfigure command and they worked
[12:46] <xandron_root> Delvien: which brand is it?
[12:46] <Itz> Have installed Apache 2.0.54 to my Breezy.  Default setup doesnt look like a standard one. Im havning troubble finding the right config file. Any suggestions? Atm i can see something when webbrowsing but i cant locate this "index.html" showing
[12:46] <slavefree> pink  depends on what you set the default as...     xdm (if i remember right has something to do with startx)   default to gdm or kdm
[12:46] <bofheaven> ElitePete: no...see rickest's comment
[12:46] <soundray> flodine, problem solved?
[12:46] <Delvien> xandron_root LG vx7000 (have the usb cable) and bitpim doesnt seem to work in linux
[12:46] <flodine> soundray really
[12:46] <pinkisntwell> slavefree: where can I find out more?
[12:47] <ElitePete> bofheaven, ?
[12:47] <flodine> soundray how
[12:47] <xandron_root> sorry can't help you as mine is from siemens
[12:47] <malebola> hey que pasa con toda esa comunidad linux
[12:47] <bofheaven> ElitePete: MetaCity, SawFish, TWM, FVWM, BlackBox, FluxBox, etc. etc. are all WMs, but Gnome is not....nor is KDE...
[12:47] <Delvien> xandron_root what do you use?
[12:47] <ElitePete> bofheaven, so then what are they?
[12:47] <serinun> hi
[12:48] <CaptainMorgan> so much to doo.. so little time...
[12:48] <soundray> flodine, I'm asking whether your problem is solved.
[12:48] <JC> I want to know. How can i enter to the firefox on shell
[12:48] <malebola> i must to speak in english
[12:48] <serinun> can someone help me please?
[12:48] <JC> to nagivate
[12:48] <slavefree> I just did it,   I didn't read it anywhere I was playing I wanted all three desktops gnome, kde, and xfce...   I installed ubuntu-desktop then kubuntu-desktop and the xubuntu-desktop   defaulted kdm
[12:48] <bofheaven> ElitePete: Gnome and KDE are Graphical Environments encompassing much more than the functionality of a mere windowmanager
[12:48] <xandron_root> Delvien I installed a kernel module that will let me mount siefs (siemens file system)
[12:48] <kinection> Itz: where are you looking for the config?
[12:48] <flodine> soundray no font wont work in aterm eterm no terminal for me
[12:48] <Delvien> ah ok
[12:48] <Delvien> thanks anyway
[12:48] <pinkisntwell> slavefree: thanks, I think I'll ask in the mailing list for more
[12:49] <Itz> kinection, /etc/apache2
[12:49] <rickest> serinun: don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:49] <slavefree> Pink  pass it on to olylug.com in the forum   I would love to here more on this
[12:49] <flodine> soundray i tried this command but didnt work.. $xset fp+ /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/artwiz
[12:50] <JC> I want to know. How can i enter to the firefox on shell
[12:50] <JC> I want to know. How can i enter to the firefox on shell
[12:50] <JC> I want to know. How can i enter to the firefox on shell
[12:50] <JC> please
[12:50] <crimsun> don't flood.
[12:50] <corresponder> firefox
[12:50] <corresponder> firefox-browser
[12:50] <flodine> soundray wow can fonts be that damn hard
[12:50] <xandron_root> Delvien: theres a tool in synaptic called obexftp that may work for you.. didn't work for me but you have a different phone so who knows..
[12:50] <tuskernini> hi there all....
[12:50] <soundray> flodine, what's the error on that command?
[12:50] <corresponder> hi
[12:51] <toya_> mw, i screwed up
[12:51] <Delvien> xandron_root obex is bluetooth
[12:51] <JC> thanks
[12:51] <slavefree> jc   firefox
[12:51] <xandron_root> oh
[12:51] <corresponder> use TAB
[12:51] <corresponder> ;-)
[12:51] <toya_> mwe, i think i screwed up
[12:51] <flodine> soundray tell me that command not found
[12:51] <xandron_root> there was another one let me remember
[12:51] <cmos_mike> After reviewing multiple doc's on the Intel915 chipset, using breezy is there a simple way to enable sound, currently running volume control produces an error
[12:51] <tuskernini> i have been trying for a while to solve my problem but looks to me that i am doing something wrong...
[12:52] <kinection> Itz: lol, well that's where it normally si for me too.. did you build it yourself? the ./configure has options for you to specify which type of file placement you want.
[12:52] <flodine> soundray whats so diffrent in breezy that the fonts dont work in a terminal
[12:52] <Knorrie> tuskernini: so........
[12:52] <tuskernini> how do i write a dvd from my hard drive... ?
[12:52] <soundray> flodine, your install is somehow incomplete.
[12:52] <soundray> flodine, what do you get when you just enter 'set'?
[12:52] <GTroy> tuskernini: you could use nautilus and drag and drop
[12:52] <tuskernini> knorrie: i already shrinked the files... just need to know how to burn the folder
[12:52] <soundray> flodine, what do you get when you just enter 'xset'?
[12:52] <soundray> sorry
[12:53] <cmos_mike> I'be had to blacklist my snd_hda_intel to get breezy to boot, and after words I can't get any sound/video to work, error is "No volume control elements and/or devices found"
[12:53] <xandron_root> Delvien: did you try gnokii?
[12:53] <tuskernini> gtroy: is it possible to write a dvd by dragging and dropping?
[12:53] <GTroy> yeah
[12:53] <flodine> soundray looks like a man page for xset
[12:53] <amb> If I build a kernel with make-kpkg, I lose the boot splash screen. How do I avoid that?
[12:53] <JC> Slavefree....... Firefox doesn't work
[12:54] <valuum> I just installed ubuntu, is there a way to change the resolution? It's super low, when I try to do it through system -> preferences it only gives me the choice of one low resolution, I installed the ATI drivers and still no change
[12:54] <tuskernini> i have never tried it... will do... thank you dearly
[12:54] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ????
[12:54] <soundray> flodine, on the command above, did you actually enter the $ sign?
[12:54] <GTroy> tuskernini: double click on the disk on your desktop
[12:54] <GTroy> after you drop the files
[12:54] <slavefree> JC  I have no problem here,,   do you have it installed
[12:54] <JC> yes.... I use firefox
[12:54] <soundray> flodine, if you did, just enter 'xset fp+ /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/artwiz'
[12:54] <tuskernini> gtroy: let me try..
[12:54] <flodine> soundray no
[12:54] <JC> but in visual mode
[12:54] <valuum> Cos the resolution is at a pretty much unusable level right now
[12:55] <slavefree> JC  do you have a desktop installed,   firefox is a gui
[12:55] <flodine> soundray....bad font path element (#277
[12:55] <slavefree> JC work with me
[12:55] <JC> ok
[12:55] <t4> cmos_mike: i recompiled newer alsa-drivers to get it to work
[12:56] <JC> I don't know what's that ... desktop
[12:56] <TTT_Travis> how do I specifiy a password when loging into ssh server, I don't want it to ask for a password, I tried: user:password@ip but that didn't work it made user:password the ip
[12:56] <serinun> i have installe battle for wesnoth. How can i play it now?
[12:56] <serinun> where is it dowloaded?
[12:56] <bofheaven> i used Internet Explorer under Wine, and got spyware on my Ubuntu Linux!
[12:56] <Madpilot> serinun: type wesnoth in a terminal - it might also add itself to your menu automatically
[12:56] <slavefree> kde is a desktop..   gnome is a desktop     xfce is a desktop...
[12:56] <rickest> TTT_Travis: see 'man ssh-keygen'
[12:56] <JC> ok
[12:56] <soundray> flodine, I'll just try and set up artwiz here. Give me a couple of minutes.
[12:56] <serinun> tahnks
[12:56] <slavefree> windows uses a desktop
[12:56] <JC> and...
[12:57] <flodine> soundray ok
[12:57] <tuskernini> i just figured out to shrink a dvd... in wine... but i had to rip it with another program... quite a job!
[12:57] <JC> How can i enter to the firefox on shell
[12:57] <JC> on shell
[12:57] <JC> text mode
[12:57] <slavefree> JC   what you be using....    where are you and how did you get there...   are you command line?
[12:57] <TTT_Travis> rickest I need to beable to put the actual password in the line, so ssh keys are not an option
[12:57] <kinection> JC: firefox doesn't have a text mode
[12:57] <bofheaven> slavefree: Gnome is a Linux Desktop Suite AND development environment-  please make a note of it.
[12:57] <kinection> JC: if you want to browse in shell, try elinks/links/lynx
[12:58] <JC> Control + alt + f1
[12:58] <slavefree> bofheaven...       And KDE?
[12:58] <rickest> TTT_Travis: I don't think you can
[12:58] <JC> How can i enter to the firefox on text mode
[12:58] <JC> ok..
[12:58] <kinection> JC: do you mean using firefox in text?
[12:58] <JC> links
[12:58] <bofheaven> slavefree:  KDE is a powerful Free Software graphical desktop environment for Linux and Unix workstations.
[12:58] <kinection> JC: as in a text only browser?
[12:58] <Kris> omg I fixed it!
[12:58] <tuskernini> anyone tried lxdvdrip before?
[12:58] <valuum> agh, why can't I change my resolution above the 640x480 or whatever
[12:58] <corresponder> use links
[12:58] <corresponder> lynx
[12:58] <Kris> it was actually a very simple solution...
[12:58] <JC> as text
[12:59] <JC> on text mode
[12:59] <slavefree> JC  it sound like your looking for a text like lynx.
[12:59] <kinection> JC: yea, use either lynx or elinks or links
[12:59] <Madpilot> !fixres
[12:59] <ubotflu> I heard fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:59] <Kris> all I needed to do was apt-get install gnome-desktop
[12:59] <Hoxzer> do you guys know where wines config file is located?
[12:59] <JC> let me try
[12:59] <Madpilot> valuum: see ubotflu above
[12:59] <slavefree> sudo apt-get install lynx                   lynx
[12:59] <JC> I m using Ubuntu 5.10
[12:59] <Kris> lol thanks bofheaven
[12:59] <slavefree> bof heaven...    I love it and Xfce?
[12:59] <_jason> Kris, congratulations... I don't get why it wasn't pulled in by ubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <bofheaven> slavefree: Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems
[01:00] <_jason> Kris, hopefully you'll have an easier time installing stuff now, having paid your dues at the beginning :)
[01:00] <Kris> I installed ubuntu-desktop and it just worked like magic heh
[01:00] <slavefree> bofheaven ....   Thanks
[01:00] <bofheaven> Graham gives the wand a good shake.....but it only fizzles and dies.
[01:00] <rickest> Hoxzer: probably /etc/wine
[01:01] <Delvien> xandron_root gnokii ? no checking it out now
[01:01] <JC> it says >>> the command not found...... I putted lynx, link,,
[01:01] <JC> nothing
[01:01] <corresponder> install it
[01:02] <corresponder> sudo apt-get install lynx links elinks
[01:02] <JC> for example.... link google
[01:02] <Delvien> xandron_root lets hope hehe
[01:02] <corresponder> btw
[01:02] <cwin> The ubuntu installer isn't working in my laptop... it doesn't detect my drive; in dmesg i found: "hda: INVALID GEOMETRY: 0 Physical heads?"
[01:02] <JC> ok.. Corresponder
[01:02] <JC> let me try
[01:02] <K^Holtz> soundray u here?
[01:02] <bofheaven> cwin: what is the make of yer laptop there buddy?
[01:03] <soundray> flodine, how did you install artwiz?
[01:03] <soundray> K^Holtz, yes
[01:04] <flodine> soundray synaptic
[01:04] <bofheaven> man...Gnome's file browse dialog is about as counter-intuitive as they come
[01:04] <renatosansevero> how can I see what a guest is doing in my computer in a SSH connection?
[01:04] <K^Holtz> made that floppy, it boots to the floppy, but only comes up w/ a black screen.. no options
[01:04] <Kris> well, now that my problems are solved i'm out of here for a while
[01:04] <cwin> bofheaven: well it's originally manufactured by clevo or something, but the hd is all fine and working (Hitachi-something on a SIS 5513 IDE interface), and it audibly spins up before it says it can't detect the disk. If it's of any importance, i'm trying to do a netboot install
[01:04] <Kris> until next time! :D
[01:05] <soundray> K^Holtz, you're not getting a menu when you boot the floppy?
[01:05] <sgilroy> Question re: Gnome/Networking - when I use the "connect to server" button and create a connection to an FTP/SMB server gnome forces a shortcut on to my desktop, how do I get rid of the icon but not the connection?
[01:05] <pro> does someone know where can i download vmware?
[01:05] <K^Holtz> soundray correct
[01:05] <jahshua> anyone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[01:05] <soundray> flodine, why /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/artwiz -- that path isn't in the package?
[01:05] <bofheaven> cwin: pfunky... idunno.  i'd have experimented a bit with the livecd myself, before taking the full install plunge...you know, sorta work out if yer hardware is gonna jive and all that jazz.
[01:06] <soundray> K^Holtz, do you get any indication that it tries to boot from the floppy?
[01:06] <flodine> soundray then whats the path you know
[01:06] <sgilroy> Question re: Gnome/Networking - when I use the "connect to server" button and create a connection to an FTP/SMB server gnome forces a shortcut on to my desktop, how do I get rid of the icon but not the connection?
[01:06] <K^Holtz> my bios is set to do so.. and the busy light comes on on the drive
[01:06] <soundray> flodine, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
[01:06] <Delvien> xandron_root no go , its not a friendly app to use
[01:06] <cwin> bofheaven: wish i could experiment with the livecd... not got a working cd or floppy drive, hence the netboot install... Not really sure what the issue is here, I've got Gentoo already installed, it boots and runs fine, but I wanted to migrate to ubuntu
[01:07] <flodine> soundray did your work
[01:07] <soundray> flodine, hold on, not finished yet
[01:08] <xandron_root> Delvien:o well.. your best bet is finding someone with a LG phone which made it work
[01:08] <bofheaven> cwin: ahhh i see. that is teh weirdness d00d.  good luck and all with it.
[01:08] <cwin> i just downloaded the netboot thing from the wiki.. i'll try actually using the cd that i know works on my desktop...
[01:09] <soundray> K^Holtz, could the floppy be bad?
[01:09] <jahshua> anyone  ?
[01:09] <jahshua> anyone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[01:11] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ?????
[01:12] <soundray> flodine, K^Holtz, back in two minutes
[01:12] <SoulPropagation> what's a good wireless ap scanner?
[01:12] <corresponder> iwlist
[01:12] <corresponder> kismet
[01:12] <SoulPropagation> thanks
[01:12] <corresponder> kismet is best, i guess
[01:12] <corresponder> airsnort
[01:12] <[cyb3rM4N] > SoulPropagation, wifi-radar
[01:13] <Toba> !tell me about samba
[01:13] <SoulPropagation> thanks
[01:13] <XiCillin> i could never get kismet to work with a linksys card
[01:13] <corresponder> hmm
[01:14] <corresponder> kismet is tricky
[01:14] <XiCillin> i've heard using an orinico card [spelling]  works well
[01:14] <bofheaven> XiCillin: probably cause linksys uses junky chipsets
[01:14] <pro> does someone know where can i download vmware?
[01:14] <Kyral> MadWifi
[01:14] <bofheaven> XiCillin: indeed they do
[01:15] <SoulPropagation> pro: it's not free
[01:15] <pro> oh ok =(
[01:16] <SoulPropagation> pro: qemu
[01:16] <jono> hi all, our server is getting bashed by malious efforts to root the box, is there a way of blocking this?
[01:16] <SoulPropagation> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported |||| how do i enable this?
[01:17] <crimsun> jono: iptables+netfilter
[01:17] <bofheaven> jono: locate the attacker and shoot them with a .45 caliber handgun
[01:17] <jono> hmmm
[01:17] <Kuyaedz> I've just apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop but it doesn't appear as an option at login.  Suggestions?
[01:17] <bofheaven> that's what i'd do...but you know, i'm just sayin...
[01:17] <jono> is there any good documentation on doing this?
[01:18] <XiCillin> jono: documentation on what?
[01:18] <SoulPropagation> XiCillin: he means on iptables and netfilter
[01:18] <jono> XiCillin, automatically blocking attacks
[01:18] <slavefree> Kuyaedz,    select session    kde
[01:18] <SoulPropagation> (they ARE a bitch)
[01:18] <Kuyaedz> slavefree: KDE isn't listed as an option in session
[01:18] <XiCillin> jono, its called IPS
[01:18] <XiCillin> intrusion prevention systems
[01:18] <soundray> flodine, I tried installing the xfonts-artwiz package, and I have problems too -- mine are worse in fact, in that I can't access the fonts from anywhere. I think it would be reasonable to file a bug against xfonts-artwiz. Unless there is some font setup mechanism in Ubuntu that you have to invoke and that I'm not aware of.
[01:19] <jono> can snort do this?
[01:19] <bofheaven> jono: no
[01:19] <bofheaven> jono: snort is IDS (intrusion detection system) all it can do is moan and whine about the attacker's actions...
[01:19] <XiCillin> jono:snort is an IDS i dont think it has IPS
[01:19] <flodine> soundray wow
[01:19] <slavefree> Kuyaedz   ,  I assume it didnt load correctly or you need to reset the process...     Some one help here?
[01:19] <tuskernini> gtroy: i dropped the folders and burnt it on the dvd and it does not seem to work playing the dvd?
[01:19] <malebola> hay alguien que hable espaol
[01:19] <soundray> K^Holtz, is it possible that the floppy is faulty?
[01:19] <SoulPropagation> !es
[01:19] <ubotflu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:20] <Kuyaedz> slavefree:  I'll try to install again & make sure it is all there.. I've rebooted as well.
[01:20] <bofheaven> !de
[01:20] <ubotflu> rumour has it, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:20] <wesleyiscool> cant speell
[01:20] <wesleyiscool> whats that funny site
[01:20] <wesleyiscool> with all the irc quotes?
[01:20] <malebola> como llego alli desde este programa
[01:20] <kinection> wesleyiscool: bash?
[01:20] <XiCillin> bash.org wesleyiscool
[01:20] <jahshua> www.bash.org
[01:20] <wesleyiscool> yeah
[01:20] <kinection> lol
[01:20] <wesleyiscool> that site rocks
[01:20] <XiCillin> yea
[01:20] <XiCillin> i like the fbi one the best
[01:21] <slavefree> Kuyaedz,   I was going to suggest reboot.   but only because I am no sure how to restart the process   other than    kdm stop    kdm start
[01:21] <K^Holtz> no, the floppy works fine soundray
[01:21] <slavefree> or gdm
[01:21] <wesleyiscool> guess what
[01:21] <slavefree> stop start
[01:21] <corey7> why is sources.list read only and how do i add the lines deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[01:21] <corey7> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/ to it
[01:21] <XiCillin> sudo vi /etc/sources.list
[01:21] <Ophiocus> i dont get it, i have two machines one ubuntu one winblow, ubuntu got 2 nics winblow uses ubuntu to connect to the internet, everything works, but ubuntu cant ping winblow
[01:21] <Benjamindaines> Hello
[01:21] <XiCillin> or sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[01:22] <soundray> K^Holtz, what type of computer are you using?
[01:22] <corey7> where do i type that xicillin
[01:22] <Kuyaedz> slavefree: I got it.. checked the apt-get install & it wasn't finished installing.
[01:22] <XiCillin> in your terminal.
[01:22] <K^Holtz> soundray Compaq 5wv271
[01:22] <corey7> how do i open a terminal
[01:22] <soundray> K^Holtz, what version of Windows is on it?
[01:22] <XiCillin> are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[01:22] <K^Holtz> 2k pro
[01:22] <crimsun> corey7: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[01:22] <corey7> ubuntu
[01:22] <SoulPropagation> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported |||| how do i enable this?
[01:22] <Benjamindaines> does Ubuntu support AirPort Extreme yet?
[01:23] <XiCillin> soulpropagation whats taht to
[01:23] <wesleyiscool> you cant spell masturbation without mast
[01:23] <jahshua> er
[01:23] <XiCillin> corey7, click 'applications' then 'accessories' then go to 'terminal'
[01:23] <corey7> ty
[01:23] <crimsun> wesleyiscool: that's extremely offtopic. See #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <agente87> does anybody know a modula 2 compiler on ubunt?
[01:24] <jahshua> anyone have any idea why my desktop(wallpaper) keeps resizing itself, sometimes when i start a program or something, when i exit there is a black  border about an inch thick on the right side and someties the top, it caues the icon button on the bottom right to be obscured .. kubuntu
[01:24] <SoulPropagation> XiCillin: wifi-radar
[01:24] <juanwalker> How i can update my mozilla firefox 1.07 to 1.5 ?
[01:24] <corey7> ubuntu never told me to set a root password, so it is the same as my user password.  can i change this?
[01:24] <juanwalker> i've already update my sources.list but it doesnt appear
[01:24] <juanwalker> *update
[01:25] <flodine> can someone tell me is breezy ok
[01:25] <rickest> corey7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:25] <SoulPropagation> flodine: for what
[01:25] <flodine> fonts
[01:25] <XiCillin> corey7, at the terminal. type this: sudo /bin/bash
[01:25] <wesleyiscool> haha
[01:25] <flodine> cause its sucking right now
[01:25] <XiCillin> type in YOUR password
[01:25] <juanwalker> there's any source for firefox?
[01:25] <crimsun> juanwalker: sure, apt-get source firefox
[01:25] <ApX> is there any way to view my osx partition in breezy?
[01:25] <XiCillin> this hsould give you a root shell, now type passwd to make a root password
[01:26] <ApX> wait not view but use
[01:26] <SoulPropagation> ApX: sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media/osx -t ufs
[01:26] <SoulPropagation> (make the dir first;))
[01:26] <ApX> sweet
[01:26] <ApX> thx
[01:26] <tuskernini> HI THERE, does anyone know how to write a ripped and shrinked dvd onto a dvdrw ?
[01:26] <SoulPropagation> tuskernini: gnome-baker. k3b.
[01:26] <_jason> corey7, the password for root is not the same as your user password.
[01:27] <soundray> K^Holtz, do you know if there's a BIOS upgrade for your Presario?
[01:27] <topyli> corey7: you can enable root and are getting information to do it. now, why exactly do you want to do this?
[01:27] <K^Holtz> soundray no idea
[01:27] <tuskernini> soulpropagation: i treid k3b, but i must be doing something wrong...
[01:27] <soundray> K^Holtz, it might be worth checking HP Compaq resources for a BIOS *update* (sorry didn't mean upgrade).
[01:28] <tuskernini> soulprop: i just worte the VIDEO and AUDio directories on the dvd?... someone suggestedit..
[01:28] <K^Holtz> im gonna check the drives again.. hold on
[01:28] <ApX> soulpropagation mount: mount point /media/osx does not exist
[01:28] <soundray> K^Holtz, it's possible that they have added support for booting from ATAPI devices in a later version.
[01:28] <_jason> corey7, the root account is disabled because it is safer to use sudo instead when you need superuser priveleges.  See  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:29] <xandron_root> tuskernini: here's a couple of links which may help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-50063.html and http://linuxgazette.net/issue83/stoddard.html
[01:29] <ApX> soulpropagation I'm really new at this by the way
[01:29] <renatohe> is there a "wine" win emulator on the repositories?
[01:29] <tuskernini> SoulPropagation: do i create a dataDVD and .... ok will look at them thanx
[01:29] <topyli> renatohe: yes, wine is there. but it's not an emulator :)
[01:29] <crimsun> renatohe: in universe.
[01:30] <renatohe> thanks
[01:30] <topyli> renatohe: you can run sol.exe and some other stuff with it but it's not a windows replacement
[01:30] <soundray> When you've installed an xfonts package via synaptic, is it reasonable to expect the fonts to appear in the font selection dialogs automatically?
[01:31] <soundray> *the new fonts
[01:31] <renatohe> I just got off a whole week of Unix admin. is there a webmin sw for ubuntu?
[01:31] <corey7> i typed in sudo gedit /etc/sources.list but now sources.list is empty
[01:31] <SAM_theman> I did it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:31] <SAM_theman> http://www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[01:31] <Bachus9000> corey7: it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <SAM_theman> look at my ubuntu site
[01:32] <topyli> corey7: there's no sources.list in /etc. it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <ubuntu32afsdf> hey guys, my primary drive is corrupt, so im using hoary live and i wanted to still access my secondary drive (hdb), but im having some difficulty mounting it. it says mount point does not exist. the filesystem is ntfs.
[01:32] <ubuntu32afsdf> i just need to read from it
[01:33] <_jason> ubuntu32afsdf, create the mount point
[01:33] <_jason> ubuntu32afsdf, mkdir blah
[01:33] <ubuntu32afsdf> in /mnt ?
[01:33] <_jason> ubuntu32afsdf, sure
[01:33] <sambagirl> i just crashed is there a command to recall the command i typed to make me crash?
[01:33] <SAM_theman> well u like it?
[01:33] <sambagirl> it was like cat /dev/soemthing/something/mem and boom
[01:34] <ubuntu32afsdf> one more, what is the flag for ntfs?
[01:35] <_jason> -t ntfs
[01:35] <ubuntu32afsdf> thanks
[01:35] <ElitePete> whats the best way to reclaim used space in linux?
[01:35] <ElitePete> i mean like clearing caches or something?
[01:35] <XiCillin> why do all these kernel compilation howto's say to cd to /usr/src/linux, when in fact /linux/ is not a directory?
[01:35] <soundray> After installing a deb package containing fonts, do you have to do something else to make the new fonts usable?
[01:35] <ApX> anyway to mount my osx partition in breezy
[01:35] <ApX> can't seem to figure it out
[01:36] <ElitePete> XiCillin, it is probably a hidden directory
[01:36] <{alejandro}> ApX it's an HFS volume
[01:36] <soundray> XiCillin, the original kernel sources untar to /usr/src/linux
[01:36] <bofheaven> XiCillin: cause /usr/src/linux should be a symlink to your actual kernel dist directory...but in ubuntu, that does not appear to be the case.
[01:36] <Hobbsee> ElitePete: you sure about that?  i thought the only hidden directories are ones that are prefaced with .
[01:36] <{alejandro}> ApX do you have the stuff to deal with HFS?
[01:36] <soundray> XiCillin, at least they used to when I was still compiling kernels.
[01:36] <ApX> hmm
[01:36] <ElitePete> Hobbsee, i am not sure, thats why i said probably.
[01:37] <ApX> {alejandro} really don't know
[01:37] <ApX> {alejandro} very new at this
[01:37] <{alejandro}> ah ok
[01:37] <bofheaven> soundray: yeah, like back in 1990 and suchforth... ;-)
[01:37] <{alejandro}> ApX do you know how to mount drives
[01:37] <soundray> After installing a deb package containing fonts, do you have to do something else to make the new fonts usable, or is it enough to restart X?
[01:37] <Hobbsee> ElitePete: i think that random hidden folders are from windows, they dont seem to work that way in linux
[01:37] <ApX> {alejandro} but I tried sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt -t hfs
[01:37] <{alejandro}> ok
[01:37] <soundray> bofheaven, no, for me that was before I started using Ubuntu.
[01:37] <ElitePete> Hobbsee, well i am a windows refugee :-)
[01:37] <corey7> i got this error in terminal  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource  temporarily unavailable)
[01:37] <corey7> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpk g/), is another process using it?
[01:37] <{alejandro}> ApX sudo apt-get install hfsplus hfsutils
[01:37] <Hobbsee> corey7: close synaptic/any other apt-get windows
[01:38] <ElitePete> corey7, have you tried using sudo ?
[01:38] <ApX> {alejandro} cool, thx
[01:38] <corey7> i typed in sudo deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[01:38] <juanwalker> Hey Guys i really need update all latest packages, this is my sources.list, (Firefox and other programs are in older version)
[01:38] <juanwalker> http://pastebin.com/469583
[01:38] <juanwalker> what's going wrong
[01:38] <juanwalker> ?
[01:39] <bofheaven> soundray: hopefully installing the deb does update-fonts-dir(8) and update-fonts-alias(8) type jive for you...
[01:39] <juanwalker> Firefox 1.04 is the lastest one
[01:39] <juanwalker> and i nedd upgrade to 1.5
[01:39] <{alejandro}> ApX when that is done cat /proc/filesystems
[01:39] <ApX> {alejandro} already newest version
[01:39] <{alejandro}> ok
[01:40] <bofheaven> soundray: but if not, that is the kinda crap you have to do to manually clue X in to the presence of fonts and suchforth...or at least it was back when i was installing fonts
[01:40] <corey7> i closed synaptic and now when i enter it in i get deb: comand not found
[01:40] <soundray> bofheaven, ah okay, and if something goes wrong at this stage, is there a special place where this gets logged?
[01:40] <ApX> {alejandro} ok done
[01:40] <juanwalker> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic doesnt bring the lastest packages?
[01:40] <{alejandro}> ApX see anything about hfs
[01:40] <soundray> bofheaven, I mean update-fonts*
[01:41] <ApX> {alejandro} yes sir
[01:41] <{alejandro}> ApX what
[01:41] <ApX> {alejandro} I dunno :)
[01:41] <corey7> nevermind
[01:41] <{alejandro}> ApX post cat /proc/filesystems | grep hfs
[01:41] <bofheaven> soundray: me no know...maybe in the /var/log/Xorg.*.log ?
[01:41] <ApX> {alejandro} all the file systems have nodev in front
[01:41] <{alejandro}> ApX but which one is hfs
[01:42] <ApX> {alejandro} except ext3 ufs and hfs
[01:42] <{alejandro}> ok
[01:42] <Cerin> With acpi disabled, will I be able to use a pmcia slot?
[01:42] <Crackez> i got a local small business to adopt Ubuntu going forward with all their new desktops
[01:42] <{alejandro}> ApX for your mount dir you might want to make a /mnt/hdb while you are at it
[01:42] <juanwalker> how i can download the latest packages?
[01:42] <Cerin> juanwalker: apt-get ?
[01:42] <Crackez> just thought i'd share
[01:43] <soundray> bofheaven, naww, that type of process wouldn't write in such a low level log, would it?
[01:43] <juanwalker> Cerin but i need all the entries in my db
[01:43] <{alejandro}> ApX what desktop (gnome, kde, etc) are you using
[01:43] <ApX> gnome
[01:43] <bofheaven> scusilo!
[01:43] <{alejandro}> ApX have you looked at the disks settings thing
[01:43] <juanwalker> how to download the latest version of a program?
[01:43] <bofheaven> soundray: pshaw, man! i -don't know-
[01:43] <soundray> bofheaven, you're obviously comfortable. I'm glad.
[01:44] <ApX> {alejandro} yes sir
[01:44] <{alejandro}> ApX is it reading your hdb
[01:44] <{alejandro}> ApX if you can use that program to mount it is a hell of a lot easier
[01:44] <ApX> {alejandro} all i see is hda
[01:44] <{alejandro}> ApX ok
[01:45] <bofheaven> soundray: i am a zen master, and rastafarian.  we fart all the time.  most humans do.  but alas, i do not know everything, and am sorry icannot help you further.
[01:45] <{alejandro}> ApX sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:45] <QuadX> Hi
[01:45] <ApX> {alejandro} ok done
[01:46] <corey7> how do i get the recylce bin on my desktop
[01:46] <thegame_e> Hi...im trying to install gftp but when following the 3 lines of useless help on the unofficial ubuntu help page i get E: Type 'cvs' is not known on line 38 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <thegame_e> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[01:46] <thegame_e>  after typing sudo apt-get install gftp......could i get a little more help with this please?
[01:46] <CuTeBoi> how do i add resolutions to the resolution preference apps, this laptop handles 800x600 at least, and it isnt an option that is currently available
[01:46] <QuadX> Last time i wanted to update from warty to hoary was replace all instances of warty to hoary, this time when i did that and ran apt-get update it gave a llota errors?
[01:47] <bimberi> thegame_e: paste your sources.list to a pastebin ...
[01:47] <alejandrodelloco> ApX this is the same dude
[01:47] <flodine> lol
[01:47] <alejandrodelloco> sorry
[01:47] <bimberi> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotflu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:47] <alejandrodelloco> my computer died
[01:47] <emicro> hello
[01:47] <ApX> lol
[01:47] <ApX> ok
[01:47] <Cerin> With acpi disabled, will I be able to use a pmcia slot?
[01:47] <theblue> Cerin: I don't see how acpi would affect pcmcia.
[01:47] <alejandrodelloco> ApX add that drive to the fstab
[01:47] <ApX> alejandrodelloco in nano now
[01:47] <alejandrodelloco> ok
[01:47] <Cerin> theblue: ok, thanks
[01:47] <emicro> we don't know anything about linux
[01:48] <theblue> Cerin: But don't quote me on that.
[01:48] <CuTeBoi> how do i add resolutions to the resolution preference apps, this laptop handles 800x600 at least, and it isnt an option that is currently available
[01:48] <QuadX> Oh wait I forgot to uncomment the sorces and comment the CD LOL
[01:48] <theblue> emicro: Ok, so you're new to the Linux community?
[01:48] <ApX> alejandrodelloco ok just add a line /dev/hda3?
[01:48] <alejandrodelloco> ApX yeah
[01:48] <alejandrodelloco> ApX and the fs and mountpoint
[01:48] <alejandrodelloco> ApX I reccomend making another folder under /mnt
[01:48] <ElitePete> question: where is the Home folder located, not home
[01:48] <ApX> alejandrodelloco ok done
[01:49] <alejandrodelloco> try the gnome disks program
[01:49] <alejandrodelloco> then try mount whatever
[01:49] <QuadX> I have to go  Warty  >  Hoary  >  Breezy   Lets see how long it takes
[01:49] <emicro> yes we 're trying ubuntu
[01:49] <QuadX> Im guessing 1h14m
[01:49] <Gord> Howdy! I need to fix the boot config for screen resolution in grub on a friends box, but I'm a lilo guy, can someone help me please
[01:50] <CuTeBoi> ok, where is the xserv setup program
[01:50] <thegame_e> heres my sourcelist on pastebin
[01:50] <thegame_e> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5892
[01:50] <CuTeBoi> since screen resolution is hard to come by
[01:50] <derekS> is gaim 2.0 beta goign to be released for dapper/backports anytime soon
[01:50] <TheUrza> need some help with compiling Wine to play Wow. Its giving me an error, can anyone help?
[01:50] <soundray> Gord, the equivalent of /etc/lilo.conf is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:50] <whyameye> is there a way to map ttyS0 to my USB port, which has a USB --> serial dongle on it?
[01:50] <ApX> alejandrodelloco ok done
[01:50] <bimberi> ElitePete: /home/<username>
[01:50] <emicro> it doesn't seem complicated
[01:51] <Gord> do I need to run grub after i fix it?
[01:51] <alejandrodelloco> ApX do you see the drive in the gnome disks program?
[01:51] <flodine> soundray you on gnome desktop
[01:51] <soundray> Gord, you add vga=ask (or whatever) to the line that
[01:51] <soundray> Gord, no, update-grub
[01:51] <ApX> alejandrodelloco no there was no option to mount in disk manager
[01:51] <soundray> flodine, yes
[01:51] <ApX> alejandrodelloco just enable and that did nothing
[01:51] <soundray> Gord, the line that says #kopt= <something>
[01:51] <soundray> Gord, leave the comment # on that line.
[01:52] <CuTeBoi> TheUrza, why dont you say what your error is? instead of saying "omg i have errors and i dont want to say what they are, can you help me?"
[01:52] <alejandrodelloco> ApX then mount from the command line
[01:52] <ApX> alejandrodelloco ok what's the command again :)
[01:52] <TheUrza> Cuteboi, sorry, didnt want to flood the chat thou
[01:52] <soundray> Gord, after edting, run update-grub, watch out for errors, then reboot and check if it's okay.
[01:52] <TheUrza> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[01:52] <TheUrza> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[01:52] <TheUrza> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[01:52] <TheUrza> checking for gcc... gcc
[01:52] <TheUrza> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:52] <TheUrza> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:52] <alejandrodelloco> ApX sudo mount hfs /dev/hdb mountpoint
[01:52] <soundray> flodine, any news?
[01:53] <CuTeBoi> TheUrza, you are filling it with nothing, instead fill it with something that you need help with. not saying you willg et the help you want, but at least you did the best you could, and i would say the most important part
[01:53] <Gord> k. thx soundray I'm still looking for the default option line.
[01:53] <CuTeBoi> TheUrza, for that much, the pastebin would have been a better idea to do.
[01:53] <flodine> soundray this suck i cant change font on breezy amaz
[01:53] <CuTeBoi> and your error is "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[01:54] <soundray> flodine, yep, font setup is broken here, too. Sorry I couldn't help.
[01:54] <ApX> alejandrodelloco not working :(
[01:54] <alejandrodelloco> ApX poot
[01:54] <alejandrodelloco> ApX hold on
[01:54] <ApX> alejandrodelloco yea I really suck at this stuff
[01:54] <alejandrodelloco> ApX don't worry
[01:54] <CuTeBoi> My first time using Ubuntu, and i think this could be better. heh.
[01:54] <ApX> alejandrodelloco learning is a slow process for me :)
[01:54] <bimberi> thegame_e: apt doesn't like that last line "cvs..."
[01:54] <alejandrodelloco> oh oh oh
[01:55] <flodine> soundray i tried hoary then upgrading to breezy and still no go
[01:55] <thegame_e> ok
[01:55] <alejandrodelloco> ApX hpmount /dev/hdb
[01:55] <thegame_e> so just delete that line?
[01:55] <MacModder> can you help me booting from a Ubuntu liveCD on a mac
[01:55] <MacModder> ?
[01:56] <bimberi> thegame_e: yep
[01:56] <bob832> whats the name of that other GUI for iptables besides firestarter?
[01:56] <ThePyromaniac> anyone here got planetside on wine?
[01:56] <thegame_e> ok
[01:56] <corey7> i installed pokerstars through wine but i get the error Couldn't display "/home/corey/.wine/drive_c/Pr...les/pokerstars/PokerStars.exe". when i run it
[01:56] <TheUrza> alright.. well im getting an error when trying to compile Wine, to install WoW to my computer. when i try to compile i get ": error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:56] <TheUrza> "
[01:56] <sambagirl> what is planetside?
[01:56] <bimberi> thegame_e: or comment it out (with '#'), i've not heard of cvs lines in that file before though
[01:56] <ThePyromaniac> MMOFPS
[01:56] <concept10> MacModder, put the cd in and press C while booting
[01:56] <ApX> alejandrodelloco hpmount: /dev/hda3: Neither Wrapper nor native HFS+ volume header found (Unknown error 4294967295)
[01:56] <thegame_e> wtf
[01:57] <ThePyromaniac> TheUrza got build-essentials?
[01:57] <flodine> soundray you ever try memphis
[01:57] <soundray> flodine, no, what is it?
[01:57] <alejandrodelloco> ApX ah. shite
[01:57] <soundray> flodine, other than a place in Tennessee
[01:57] <flodine> lol
[01:57] <ThePyromaniac> sambagirl online firspt person shooter. halo but with a few hundred players in a certain area :D
[01:57] <ApX> alejandrodelloco :)
[01:57] <TheUrza> thepyromaniac,  sorry new to this, just got ubuntu. Would i find that in synaptic?
[01:57] <MacModder> when i do that it comes to the screen where i need to type in "mac-boot" but it dose not let me type anyhting in at all
[01:58] <ThePyromaniac> theurza should do if i have spelt it right
[01:58] <flodine> soundray look at this
[01:58] <soundray> MacModder, are you on a Bluetooth keyboard?
[01:58] <MacModder> no its wired
[01:58] <flodine> soundray http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75083.html
[01:58] <soundray> MacModder, USB?
[01:58] <MacModder> yes
[01:59] <MacModder> it is all plug in and i know it should work
[01:59] <soundray> MacModder, to boot the CD, do you hold the C key?
[01:59] <MacModder> yes
[01:59] <MacModder> then it comes to the black screen
[01:59] <TheUrza> Thepyromaniac, searched for int in synaptic, and found nothing, would it be in anything else?
[02:00] <soundray> MacModder, is your keyboard plugged into the computer or in a hub?
[02:00] <MacModder> computer
[02:00] <thegame_e> thanks for the help
[02:01] <alejandrodelloco> ApX I am not dead, just looking around
[02:01] <ApX> alejandrodelloco :) thx man
[02:01] <MacModder> after i type some commond in the black screen it comes to the gray screen where it won't let me type in anything
[02:01] <ApX> alejandrodelloco I figured
[02:01] <CuTeBoi> TheUrza, you there?
[02:01] <TheUrza> Cuteboi, Yeah, im trying what Pyro told me, seeing if this works
[02:01] <xtristramx> Hi, I'm trying to use a TV monitor in addition to my two CRT monitors configured in xorg with Twinview. My TV doesn't have an s-video input so I'm trying to use another PCI vid card with an RCA out, but Ubuntu won't load when I install it. Any suggestions?
[02:02] <Karupt> After i apt-get dist-upgrade to hoary, do i need to restart before i repeat the entire process for Breezy???
[02:02] <soundray> flodine, has that fixed it for you?
[02:02] <beelzebub1987> "A train station is where a train stops. A bus station is where a bus stops. On my desk I have a workstation..."
[02:02] <alejandrodelloco> ApX in fstab change hfs to hfsplus
[02:02] <CuTeBoi> ok
[02:02] <TheUrza> ThePyromaniac, seems to have work almost, now i get the error of "configure: error: no suitable lex found. Please install the 'flex' package.
[02:02] <TheUrza> "
[02:03] <Cerin> Damn, I just can't get my wifi card working. I've read the ndis wiki thoroughly, completed ALL steps successfully, and yet my pcmcia card refuses to turn on.
[02:03] <MacModder> soundray, do you know of anything that might make it work?
[02:03] <ApX> alejandrodelloco oke
[02:03] <Seveas> Karupt, that would be advisable
[02:03] <alejandrodelloco> ApX and then try the mount command with hfsplus isntead
[02:04] <Karupt> Seveas, Thanks
[02:04] <ApX> alejandrodelloco ok
[02:04] <soundray> MacModder, no, I've checked the obvious things with you, and I can't see now why it doesn't.
[02:04] <TheUrza> gah, pyromaniac has left. anyone else able to help me out with error of "configure: error: no suitable lex found. Please install the 'flex' package.
[02:04] <TheUrza> "
[02:04] <alejandrodelloco> oooh crap
[02:04] <alejandrodelloco> ApX it won't work
[02:04] <alejandrodelloco> ApX wait yes it will nevermind
[02:05] <MacModder> do you think it might me beacuse it is a imac G5
[02:05] <ApX> alejandrodelloco :)
[02:05] <ApX> alejandrodelloco not seeming too
[02:05] <soundray> MacModder, I wouldn't think that that's a problem, because other G5 machines do work.
[02:05] <alejandrodelloco> ApX grar
[02:05] <chap> is ubotu still broke/
[02:05] <Hobbsee> TheUrza: sudo apt-get install flex
[02:06] <alejandrodelloco> ApX your second drive is hdb, correct
[02:06] <Reza> hola
[02:06] <Reza> ay alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[02:06] <MacModder> yellowdog dose the same thing as well
[02:06] <alejandrodelloco> ApX and hpmount did not work
[02:06] <soundray> MacModder, have you tried waiting? It might time out and boot by itself.
[02:06] <ApX> alejandrodelloco no sir hda3
[02:06] <alejandrodelloco> ahhh
[02:06] <MacModder> yup
[02:06] <Reza> y qu ehable espaol
[02:06] <bigfam> how can I install 'gpm' (general purpose mouse) ?
[02:06] <alejandrodelloco> ApX is it a partition, then>
[02:06] <bimberi> chapium:  no just ill - currently named "ubotflu" :)
[02:06] <ApX> alejandrodelloco I got it!
[02:06] <MacModder> waited like 20 min
[02:06] <alejandrodelloco> ApX hpmount /dev/hda3
[02:07] <ApX> alejandrodelloco you are the man
[02:07] <alejandrodelloco> ApX lovely
[02:07] <chapium> i had the wrong nick in freenode, i was having weirdness
[02:07] <Reza> emmmm
[02:07] <alejandrodelloco> ApX not a problem
[02:07] <ApX> alejandrodelloco sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt -t hfsplus
[02:07] <ApX>  that's the one that worked
[02:07] <Reza> podran audarme alguien?
 i want the nVidia's Secret catalog
 with pictures of rendered games
[02:07] <MacModder> o well i will try it on my brothers iBook
[02:07] <Reza> ok... ni pex
[02:07] <ApX> alejandrodelloco I owe you one
[02:07] <MacModder> :)
[02:07] <bigfam> how can I install 'gpm' (general purpose mouse) ?
[02:07] <Reza> can somebody help me?
[02:08] <soundray> MacModder, it seems that your machine is crashing.
[02:08] <ApX> alejandrodelloco any way to add to a friends list in xchat?
[02:08] <soundray> MacModder, great if you can test it somewhere else.
[02:08] <soundray> MacModder, it works here on a mac mini.
[02:08] <MacModder> ya i know that
[02:08] <alejandrodelloco> ApX none that I know of
[02:08] <MacModder> the guy i got the disk form tested it on a mac mini
[02:09] <alejandrodelloco> ApX but I am usually {alejandro} when I am on freenode
[02:09] <CuTeBoi> How do i add resolutions to Gnome so i can be in an environment that has 1024x768 resolition
[02:09] <CuTeBoi> i can't stand 640x480
[02:09] <ApX> alejandrodelloco awesome
[02:09] <soundray> MacModder, have you checked the web for any imac g5 ubuntu/debian/other linux reports?
[02:09] <ApX> alejandrodelloco well thx again
[02:09] <flodine> soundray nothing
[02:09] <beelzebub1987> *** crunchybl has joined #xml
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[02:09] <CuTeBoi> and my x11 conf files does have the option
[02:09] <MacModder> i check all over but notthing
[02:10] <flodine> soundray o well headed back to suse 10
[02:11] <Reza> alguien
[02:11] <Reza> se ofrece a ayudarme?
[02:11] <Reza> =/
[02:11] <Reza> Can somebody help me?
[02:12] <Reza> =@
[02:12] <mlstein> what's the problem?
[02:12] <Reza> well
[02:12] <Reza> look
[02:12] <Reza> i mexican
[02:12] <soundray> MacModder, you could file a bug against the mac boot manager - forget what it's called.
[02:12] <Reza> so, i can talk a lot of english
[02:12] <Reza> but i try
[02:13] <XiCillin> i left my phone at my girlfriends house and i can't remember her number. she called my house leaving a message that said she had my phone. i WAS going to call her back but she called from MY PHONE
[02:13] <Reza> i just wanna help
[02:13] <XiCillin> i swear girls can be so stupid sometimes
[02:13] <lisi> Hello, I need help with my x1180 Lexmark scanner, I've alrady installed latest sane-backends from cvs, but xsane still don't recorgnises my scanner
[02:13] <Ophiocus> XiCillin, call your own number
[02:13] <MacModder> i filed alot of bugs in the past and they all do nothing
[02:13] <windowmaker> does anybody know how to get a microphone working in ubuntu? every other distro i've tried also doesn't support using it without some sort of configuration (which i've never found out) and i would really appreciate it if my microphone was usable
[02:13] <XiCillin> its off
[02:14] <Reza> well
[02:14] <windowmaker> no it's not
[02:14] <Reza> can somebpdy help me with de packages?
[02:14] <windowmaker> it works in windows
[02:14] <windowmaker> and it's on
[02:14] <Ophiocus> that ll teach you not to jot down girls numbers
[02:14] <Ophiocus> ;)
[02:14] <corey7> has anyone gotten pokerstars to work with ubuntu?
[02:14] <MacModder> o well good bye and thats alot for your help sound
[02:15] <Reza> fuck
[02:15] <windowmaker> Reza: by "de" do you mean german or "deb"?
[02:15] <windowmaker> oh
[02:15] <windowmaker> he's gone =(
[02:15] <soundray> windowmaker, not worth crying over :)
[02:16] <Blippe> is it normal for x.org to take 15% of cpu and over 200 megs in virtual memory?
[02:16] <windowmaker> soundray, are you calling me fat? i'm really sensitive about my wieght ='(
[02:16] <xerophyte> if software on Mozilla Public License and if i create addon can i sell it
[02:16] <windowmaker> now i need to eat some chocolate
[02:16] <emicro> hi how could i know my local ip under ubuntu plize ?
[02:16] <xerophyte> ifconfig
[02:17] <windowmaker> xerophyte: ERR wrong
[02:17] <emicro> yes ok i try ..
[02:17] <windowmaker> xerophyte: only in windows
[02:17] <kinection> ip addr
[02:17] <KarupT> Isnt there a way to change the font type and size in X-Chat?
[02:17] <soundray> windowmaker, from what I can see, you're slim and good-looking. You can leave the chocolate alone now ;)
[02:17] <bulio> the game simutrans isn't in breezy repo?
[02:17] <kinection> ifconfig should work too
[02:17] <xerophyte> windowmaker, ????
[02:18] <kinection> i thnk windowmaker is thinking of ipconfig
[02:18] <windowmaker> soundray: =D
[02:18] <xerophyte> windowmaker, its ipconfig for windows ;) but ip works too
[02:18] <slavefree> KarupT   Settings- preference
[02:18] <windowmaker> oh, i see
[02:18] <windowmaker> i thought you just misspelled ipconfig =3
[02:18] <xerophyte> windowmaker, lol if you are not aware of ifconfig .. thats sucks
[02:18] <occy> !LostPassword
[02:18] <ubotflu> lostpassword is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[02:19] <windowmaker> !crack
[02:19] <ubotflu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[02:19] <windowmaker> why is he called "ubotflu" instead of "ubotu" now?
[02:20] <bshumate>  cause he's got the bird flu! ;-)
[02:20] <XiCillin> ophiocus, i lied, i didnt' call my phone. so i'm going to submit this conversation to bash.org becuase i r dumb
[02:20] <yatesy> its a temporary solution while the main bot is fixed i think
[02:20] <windowmaker> XiCillin, i already did
[02:20] <XiCillin> :P
[02:20] <XiCillin> oh really?
[02:20] <XiCillin> haha
[02:20] <windowmaker> yep
[02:20] <windowmaker> that's how much of a bash whore i am
[02:20] <XiCillin> where can i find it
[02:20] <windowmaker> T_____T
[02:20] <XiCillin> hah windowmaker, i just called my phone and told my girlfriend. and she will NEVER let this go
[02:20] <windowmaker> it doesn't automatically get up there
[02:20] <XiCillin> oh well
[02:21] <XiCillin> we all get a few
[02:21] <XiCillin> oh
[02:21] <windowmaker> then why is she your girlfriend?
[02:21] <ifZZ> Hello, pplz! I have a problem with my modem? Anybody can help me?
[02:21] <yatesy> it'll take months/years to get approved
[02:21] <windowmaker> ifZZ AS IF!
[02:21] <XiCillin> oh she'll just make fun of me for it
[02:21] <XiCillin> thats all
[02:21] <windowmaker> how are you using IRC if you have a problem?
[02:21] <emicro> and to have a static ip with ubuntu ?
[02:21] <yatesy> man ifconfig
[02:21] <ifZZ> windowmaker, in Windows
[02:21] <windowmaker> ifZZ, how are you using IRC if your modem has a problem?
[02:21] <windowmaker> ifZZ,  if you're in windows then don't come here
[02:22] <Set> windowmaker is such a nice guy
[02:22] <yatesy> heh
[02:22] <windowmaker> Set: LAWL
[02:22] <emicro> no entry for this manual ..
[02:22] <ifZZ> windowmaker, aaaaaaaaaa
[02:22] <windowmaker> Set, usually i am but today i'm erally psycho and i can't spell!
[02:22] <ifZZ> windowmaker, in ubuntu
[02:22] <zig> hi all, is there a minimal installation CD somewhere for ubuntu (that is with just the minimal set of package to install a working linux that can grab packages on internet later on ) ?
[02:22] <ifZZ> windowmaker, problem with my modem
[02:22] <KarupT> How Can I check what If i am running Warty or Hoary?
[02:22] <windowmaker> ifZZ, make up your mindddd!!!
[02:22] <bestadvocate> hey does anyone here have an iPod they load from Ubuntu?
[02:22] <crimsun> KarupT: lsb_release -r
[02:22] <Toma-> ifZZ: use the network config gui. its pretty simple
[02:23] <Krhis> zig, yes, the server install.
[02:23] <windowmaker> bestadvocate, use "gtkpod"
[02:23] <theblue> Hi all.
[02:23] <soundray> ifZZ, don't worry about windowmaker, just describe your problem.
[02:23] <bestadvocate> windowmaker thanks
[02:23] <windowmaker> =P
[02:23] <theblue> zig: Kind of, actually.
[02:23] <eruin> I use banshee for all my ipod needs ;)
[02:23] <ifZZ> soundray, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105627
[02:23] <fer_dee> #j malang
[02:23] <theblue> zig: You still have to get the full install CD, but you can do a server install and apt-get the rest.
[02:23] <KarupT> crimsun, is 4.10 Warty or Hoary?
[02:23] <M_Cheevy> heya people.  I've been able to get sensors configured, and sensors-detect is working (but only two i2c devices in /dev) everything seems okay but temperatures... /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty.. any suggestions?
[02:23] <rosen> Offtopic - But OH MY GOD !!!! http://sheendigital.com/alba/
[02:23] <Toma-> next thing you know, we'll be giving help on howto bake a leg of ham for xmas
[02:23] <zig> Krhis: ah thanks I see, however it's still around 400/500Mo
[02:23] <theblue> KarupT: Warty.
[02:23] <ifZZ> soundray, i can't install drivers for my Conexant HSF modem
[02:23] <windowmaker> does anybody know how to get a microphone working in ubuntu? every other distro i've tried also doesn't support using it without some sort of configuration (which i've never found out) and i would really appreciate it if my microphone was usable
[02:23] <eruin> KarupT, its warty
[02:23] <theblue> bestadvocate: I set up an iPod on Ubuntu.
[02:24] <theblue> bestadvocate: You use gtkpod to move songs.
[02:24] <Krhis> It is? Wow, but that is the minimum.
[02:24] <Toma-> windowmaker: how do you mean, working?
[02:24] <eruin> Krhis, that's pretty old yes ;)
[02:24] <soundray> ifZZ, you're going to have to ask Linuxant to support Ubuntu.
[02:24] <ifZZ> soundray, sorry for my english, i am russian :)
[02:24] <agt> emicro: Try 'ifconfig eth0 ' then the ip address u want.. like 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1'
[02:24] <bestadvocate> thank you theblue, I am installing it as we speak
[02:24] <Krhis> How is it old? Outdated?
[02:24] <theblue> bestadvocate: No problem.
[02:24] <KarupT> theblue, I did changed all the instances of warty to Hoary in sources list, ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade then I rebooted, what did i do wrong
[02:24] <soundray> ifZZ, your English is fine.
[02:24] <ifZZ> soundray, :)
[02:24] <theblue> KarupT: What happened wrong?
[02:25] <soundray> ifZZ, just your choice of a support source is wrong :)
[02:25] <KarupT> theblue, everything seemed to work fine
[02:25] <windowmaker> Toma-, i mean so ubuntu can capture sound... it works in windows but in ubuntu you can't record anything and the "recording level monitor" in "applications > sound and video" doesn't show anything
[02:25] <theblue> KarupT: You didn't do anything wrong.
[02:25] <ifZZ> soundray, is there any another quit to my problem?
[02:25] <eruin> Krhis, well, it was released well over a year ago, we're now two releases down ;)
[02:25] <theblue> KarupT: That's what you're supposed to do.
[02:25] <theblue> KarupT: Take a breath of relief.
[02:25] <co_awan> #j /bandung
[02:25] <soundray> ifZZ, you're going to have to ask Linuxant to support Ubuntu.
[02:25] <Toma-> windowmaker: how about when you run alsamixer in a term?
[02:25] <KarupT> theblue, so why am i still on warty?
[02:25] <emicro> which port do i have to open on my router to use gnomemeeting ?
[02:25] <Toma-> and what are you using to capture?
[02:25] <theblue> KarupT: You aren't.
[02:25] <kuxman> windowmaker... double check that the microphone isn't muted... that's how it came on mine
[02:25] <ifZZ> soundray, Well.. it is real? :D
[02:26] <zig> ok thanks theblue and Krhis. Another question, how ubunto for amd 64 performs in comparison to the x86 version ? Do they provide a 32bit compatibility layer like with gentoo ?
[02:26] <KarupT> theblue, but he said to run lsb_release -r, and i did and it says 4.10
[02:26] <theblue> KarupT: If you've done a dist-upgrade, you HAVE upgraded.
[02:26] <windowmaker> Toma-, kuxman, it's not muted, and i tried fixing it up with alsa mixer..... nothing
[02:26] <theblue> KarupT: Odd, it should say 5.04.
[02:26] <Toma-> windowmaker: and what are you using to capture?
[02:26] <theblue> KarupT: I bet I know why.
[02:26] <KarupT> theblue, yea thats why I want to know what happened
[02:26] <soundray> ifZZ, that modem driver is commercial, closed software. Ubuntu people cannot support it.
[02:26] <ApX> why am I having such a hard time changing permissions on folders?
[02:26] <theblue> KarupT: Because you installed 4.10, and upgrading doesn't change that part.
[02:26] <Krhis> There is a 'server' option on the install disk.... Yes, on 5.04 and 5.10.
[02:26] <soundray> ifzz ...even if they wanted to.
[02:27] <KarupT> theblue, and doesnt Hoary have 3 menus in gnome not 2?
[02:27] <Toma-> ApX: whats giving you such a hard time?
[02:27] <kuxman> apx, what's the problem?
[02:27] <bimberi> zig: not as part of the installation, but there are HowTos for setting up a 32bit chroot environment
[02:27] <theblue> KarupT: Yes.
[02:27] <windowmaker> Toma-, "applications > sound & video > sound recorder".... it's not just capturing, it's everything that uses microphone
[02:27] <theblue> KarupT: I'm actually not sure why that didn't upgrade.
[02:27] <zerodni> hey guys has anyone had good sucess with runing fluxbox with ubuntu
[02:27] <eruin> theblue, so why does my breezy-updated-to-warty report 6.04? :)
[02:27] <Krhis> AMD64 works great here, AMD64 3200+.
[02:27] <theblue> eruin: WTF?
[02:27] <ifZZ> soundray, stop! but it is work with 14/4 for free :)
[02:27] <zig> bimberi: so you can do chroot, but they don't have the possibility to run a 32 bit program from the normal environmemnt ?
[02:27] <theblue> eruin: Why did you "upgrade" Breezy to Warty?
[02:27] <KarupT> theblue, yea then im still on warty cause I have 2 Menu's Applications, and Computer, well and the lil foot
[02:27] <Toma-> windowmaker: is it popping up and saying "device is busy"?
[02:27] <windowmaker> let me see
[02:27] <theblue> KarupT: Well, I wish I could be of more help, but I really can't.
[02:28] <eruin> theblue, I meant dapper ;)
[02:28] <theblue> eruin: Oh.
[02:28] <soundray> ifZZ, this is all you're going to get from me, sorry.
[02:28] <theblue> eruin: I think something funky happened on KarupT's box.
[02:28] <ifZZ> soundray, okey, thx :)
[02:28] <windowmaker> Toma-, "ALSA device "default" had an error"
[02:28] <eruin> theblue, me too...
[02:28] <Toma-> hmmm
[02:29] <theblue> eruin: ?
[02:29] <ApX> how would I go about changing permissions on my external so I can copy files to it
[02:29] <soundray> Krhis, I have that same CPU. It's six times faster than a Xeon 3GHz for the kind of processing I need it to do :)
[02:29] <ApX> chmod isn't working!
[02:29] <windowmaker> Toma-, however.... none of my sound systems work with input
[02:29] <Toma-> ApX: what chmod options you using?
[02:29] <CuTeBoi> grr
[02:29] <CuTeBoi> how do i add resolutions to Gnome?
[02:29] <Toma-> windowmaker: what card is it? and have you tried using audacity?
[02:29] <ApX> g+w
[02:29] <crimsun> !tell CuTeBoi about fixres
[02:29] <bimberi> zig: sorry, i don't have a definite yes or no to that.  I've not heard of it and the fact that chroot's are talked about might indicate an answer
[02:29] <ifZZ> can anybody help me with my modem? :(
[02:30] <Toma-> ApX: if its an external, you need all. eg, a+w i do believe
[02:30] <KarupT> :(
[02:30] <soundray> ifZZ, Linuxant can.
[02:30] <ifZZ> soundray, U know it is unreal ;)
[02:30] <windowmaker> Toma-, it's not a card, it's onboard, Realtek ac97.... i'll try audacity now
[02:30] <Toma-> hmm
[02:31] <ApX> ok
[02:31] <windowmaker> Toma-, okay, it's downloading
[02:31] <ApX> I'm an idiot
[02:31] <ApX> I got it
[02:31] <ApX> thx toma
[02:31] <Toma-> ApX: kewl :) np
[02:31] <CuTeBoi> and why can't i use: su -    to become root?
[02:31] <soundray> ifZZ, if you have a problem with Ubuntu, ask here. If you have a problem with commercial software, ask the vendor of that software.
[02:31] <CuTeBoi> grah, this is awkward
[02:31] <zig> bimberi: ok thanks :)
[02:31] <eruin> !root
[02:31] <ubotflu> eruin: I give up, what is it?
[02:32] <_jason> ubotflu, tell CuTeBoi about root
[02:32] <bimberi> zig: np :)
[02:32] <eruin> oh, the poor bot is sick
[02:32] <Toma-> windowmaker: im pretty sure audacity has alot more options when it comes to using the mic/sound card. also it'll hopefully give you more debugging
[02:32] <CuTeBoi> yes it is
[02:32] <Toma-> its also a very nice app ;)
[02:32] <eruin> CuTeBoi, if you really need it, you can sudo su
[02:32] <CuTeBoi> _jason, it isnt telling me
[02:32] <ifZZ> i have problem IN UBUNTU, and in debian there is no problem
[02:32] <_jason> who messed with root...
[02:32] <CuTeBoi> sudo? what
[02:32] <_jason> one sec
[02:32] <windowmaker> Toma-, what the! it worked, but it made my voice all deep!
[02:32] <CuTeBoi> jeez, all this jarrgon for ubuntu is new to me
[02:32] <soundray> eruin, CuTeBoi, sudo su is unsafe. Better do sudo -i
[02:33] <Toma-> ifZZ: i still havent heard your exact problem...
[02:33] <Toma-> windowmaker: lol. maybe youre more sexy than you thought?
[02:33] <_jason> CuTeBoi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:33] <ifZZ> Toma, read this plz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=586646#post586646
[02:33] <Toma-> like barry white
[02:33] <windowmaker> Toma-, no... this is REALLY deep
[02:33] <CuTeBoi> fine, got sudo su
[02:33] <bulio> how do I install a .deb package?
[02:33] <soundray> Toma-, ifZZ is using a Linuxant driver. Linuxant doesn't support Ubuntu yet. That's the problem.
[02:34] <Toma-> windowmaker: ok, its probably sampling at a weird rate
[02:34] <windowmaker> Toma-, i'll change that
[02:34] <Crackez> are there any plans to fix the initrd in the installer before the first boot?
[02:35] <Toma-> ahh ifZZ, you need to install 'build-essentials' aswell
[02:35] <bulio> how do I install a .deb package?
[02:35] <Toma-> bulio: dpkg -i file.deb
[02:35] <Toma-> with sudo aswell
[02:35] <bulio> k
[02:35] <bulio> thanks
[02:35] <windowmaker> Toma-, how do i change the sampling rate in audacity, i can't find it >_<
[02:35] <Toma-> np
[02:36] <ice9> does someone have chroot on there system :?
[02:36] <ifZZ> Toma-, but error that he can't find kernek source
[02:36] <ice9> if so can you pls pm me
[02:36] <corey7> when i lock my screen, it shows the picture of this faggot guy.  how do i change it
[02:36] <Toma-> ifZZ: have you installed all that aswell? can you paste the Makefile some where for me?
[02:37] <ifZZ> Toma-, i can't installed it
[02:37] <Toma-> windowmaker: File > Prefs > Quality
[02:37] <Ophiocus> corey7, stop loading pics of yourself in the machine and choose a more appropriate screensaver ;)
[02:38] <ifZZ> Toma-, there is no makefile. there is deb package.
[02:38] <Toma-> ifZZ: i see.
[02:38] <corey7> really how do i change it
[02:38] <Toma-> gimme a sec
[02:38] <KarupT> Anyone know where I can get a good sources.lst (with all imaginable sources) for Hoary??? PLEASE
[02:39] <windowmaker> Toma-, wow, you laern something new everyday. i thought a good sampling rate was about 44.1khz.... 48khz is much better for this
[02:39] <Toma-> ifZZ: try using the tar method instead
[02:39] <windowmaker> Toma-, thanks
[02:39] <Mikhail> how can i see a image on the consoul?
[02:39] <ifZZ> Toma-, i use it also
[02:39] <Toma-> windowmaker: i just hope that fixes your deep voice problem :S
[02:39] <ifZZ> Toma-, there is no "make" "make install"
[02:39] <_jason> corey7, system -> prefs -> about me (and watch the language in here)
[02:39] <Toma-> yes there is
[02:39] <ifZZ> Toma-, how can i run it?
[02:39] <zig> bimberi: ok, from what I see on the forums they do install compatibility 32 bits libraries within the 64 bits environement , so you don't have necessarily to chroot to use 32 bits applications
[02:40] <Ophiocus> corey7, if your talking about system> lock screen,.. what it does is fire up the default screensaver, go to system>preferences>screensaver and choose a diferent one, make sure its the only selected
[02:40] <corey7> i changed that picture
[02:40] <windowmaker> Toma-, but it's still not working in other applications, i want to be able to speak in online games
[02:40] <corey7> i set my screensaver to blank, but when i come back it asks me to login
[02:40] <corey7> at that screen it shows the picture of the man
[02:40] <Ophiocus> thats what the "lock" bit stands for
[02:40] <_jason> corey7, you changed it in 'about me' ?
[02:40] <cmos_mike> Does anyone know when Intel915 chipsets will be fully compadible with Ubuntu, i'm running 5.10 Breezy now and have no sound/video acceleration
[02:40] <corey7> yes
[02:41] <Toma-> ifZZ: firstly, write an email to linuxant and ask nicely for ubuntu support. next, get the tarball, and paste the Makefile to a pastebin or something. then gimme the link to it
[02:41] <jono> hi all
[02:41] <Ophiocus> prety useful if you got 3 y o kids wondering loose in the house
[02:41] <Ophiocus> ;)
[02:41] <intelikey> ooops wrong channel...
[02:41] <jono> is there a patched version of 2.6.14?
[02:41] <bimberi> zig: ok.  thanks for the feedback :)
[02:41] <Toma-> windowmaker: you -might- need to load snd-oss module
[02:41] <crimsun> cmos_mike: works fine for me.
[02:41] <jono> I want the stock kernel, but with all the ubuntu patches in it
[02:41] <_jason> corey7, hrmm try restarting X, I think that's where you change it
[02:41] <ifZZ> Toma-, makefile which in arhive?
[02:41] <Toma-> online games usually use oss
[02:41] <windowmaker> Toma-, nevermind, i was being a n00b.... i jsut tested it out on counter-strike and it worked
[02:41] <corey7> what do you mean restarting X
[02:41] <nekostar> hum
[02:41] <Toma-> windowmaker: orsom :D
[02:41] <nekostar> whats the package that tells the temp of mobo etc??
[02:41] <Toma-> ifZZ: the Makefile in the tar archive
[02:42] <crimsun> cmos_mike: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[02:42] <cmos_mike> crimsun: I had to place snd_hda_intel on my module blacklist just to get a boot not to freeze on "hotplug systems"
[02:42] <ice9> grr
[02:42] <_jason> corey7, ctrl+alt+backspace, save whatever you are working on beforehand
[02:42] <bulio> how do I use a .sh file?
[02:42] <ifZZ> Toma-, okey, i will e-mail it for u. okey?
[02:42] <alekz> bulio, sh file.sh
[02:42] <ice9> can I see someones /chroot /etc/fstab file pls ?
[02:42] <Toma-> dont email it to me
[02:42] <Toma-> !pastebin
[02:42] <ubotflu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:42] <Toma-> use that ^^
[02:42] <ifZZ> !pastebin
[02:42] <crimsun> cmos_mike: right, known issue (#15031)
[02:42] <crimsun> cmos_mike: I'd compile alsa-source from Dapper on your Breezy system
[02:43] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Being a little behind the times, is there a FAW/Wiki entry for this work around?
[02:43] <Crackez> ice9: what are you talking about?
[02:43] <ice9> chroot
[02:43] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Not sure how to accomplish that
[02:43] <ifZZ> Toma-, sorry which comman u say?
[02:43] <ice9> the /etc/fstab file
[02:44] <Toma-> ifZZ: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:44] <Crackez> yes, you said chroot, but what does that have to do with /etc/fstab?
[02:44] <crimsun> cmos_mike: I'll walk you through it. sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot module-assistant
[02:44] <Toma-> copy the file, "Makefile" to there
[02:44] <ice9> gedit /etc/fstab
[02:44] <corey7> pictures still the guy
[02:45] <ifZZ> Toma-, second
[02:45] <Crackez> ice9, perhaps you should explain what you are after
[02:45] <_jason> corey7, hrmm... well maybe you can actually edit the file: 'locate stock_person.png'  I don't know if that will work any better though
[02:45] <corey7> _jason, do you use ubuntu
[02:45] <ifZZ> Toma-, you can attach a screenshot too (jpeg or png only)
[02:45] <_jason> corey7, yes, why
[02:45] <Toma-> yep
[02:45] <corey7> _jason, is your picture still the guy
[02:46] <_jason> corey7, yes, it doesn't bother me
[02:46] <Toma-> i dont need one tho...
[02:46] <jenco> how would i go about lacklisting my intergrated video card?
[02:46] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Thanks, When I paste that bit directly to terminal i get "can't finde package module-assistant"
[02:46] <Toma-> jenco: lspci
[02:46] <P8ntKid> How do you extract .7z files?
[02:46] <Toma-> P8ntKid: with 7zip
[02:46] <crimsun> !info p7zip
[02:46] <ifZZ> Toma-, Only png and jpeg images are supported
[02:46] <ubotflu> p7zip: (7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4.20-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1384 kB, Installed size: 3608 kB
[02:47] <P8ntKid> Toma-: Is it allready installed?
[02:47] <crimsun> cmos_mike: enable the universe repo
[02:47] <Toma-> ifZZ: so? just copy and paste the Makefile there! gosh!
[02:47] <crimsun> P8ntKid: I just gave you the name of the package
[02:47] <Toma-> P8ntKid: nope.
[02:47] <jenco> toma : what do i do after that ~.~?
[02:47] <P8ntKid> crimsun: I see now. Sorry,
[02:48] <Toma-> jenco: you mean blacklisting?
[02:48] <johnnybezak> hey guys is there a way to find out how much space is used by a particular folder (from the cli)?
[02:48] <jenco> yes toma =)
[02:48] <P8ntKid> crimsun: Is there a hoary package?
[02:48] <stianh> Hello, is patching alsadrivers dificult? or would I later on perhaps possibly get asstance in applying this patch -> http://sq5bpm.sp5zcc.waw.pl/v2040/hda_codec.diff <- to drivers for my laptops audiodevice when I have reinstalled 5.10
[02:48] <stianh> ?
[02:48] <Toma-> jenco: oic. turn it off in your bios. its easiest
[02:48] <bulio> how do I remove a dir?
[02:48] <bulio> rm what
[02:48] <johnnybezak> rmdir if its empty
[02:48] <johnnybezak> rm -rf if its full
[02:48] <jenco> well i tried but it really does'nt turn it off ~
[02:49] <cmos_mike> crimsun: From Synaptic Package Manager how do I enable universe repositorys? All I see is my breezy  repo's I setup when upgrading from Hoary
[02:49] <stianh> bulio: rm -rf if its not
[02:49] <Toma-> dont use -f
[02:49] <johnnybezak> (be careful with the last one)
[02:49] <Toma-> no need and its dangerous.
[02:49] <redguy> johnnybezak: du -sh /the/dir/
[02:49] <jenco> so when i install my other video card kernel panics i dunno y ~
[02:49] <bimberi> johnnybezak: du -sh /path/to/folder
[02:49] <johnnybezak> redguy: roger thanks
[02:49] <jenco> damn compaq's ><
[02:49] <Crackez> crap, my box might have locked up, either that or my keyboard controller is dieing
[02:49] <bimberi> redguy: too quick :)
[02:49] <crimsun> johnnybezak: du -hc folder|tail -1
[02:49] <stianh> I always use -f, I live for danger :P
[02:49] <Crackez> my other box that is
[02:49] <Toma-> jenco: really? :*( what kind of card is it?
[02:49] <Toma-> and what kinda of card in the non-integrated one?
[02:49] <KarupT> Everytime I try to apt-get install something it says the following packages have unmet dependencies!!!???
[02:49] <jenco> so i figure if i blacklist it i might be able to install my other vid card
[02:50] <redguy> bimberi: at leat this time.. :-)
[02:50] <P8ntKid> Is there a hoary package for p7zip?
[02:50] <johnnybezak> thanks guys that's useful
[02:50] <ifZZ> Toma-, i can't only jpeg and png files supported :D
[02:50] <bimberi> :)
[02:50] <redguy> s/leat/least/
[02:50] <crimsun> cmos_mike: Settings> Repositories
[02:50] <jenco> intel I845, trying to install my ati 9250
[02:50] <ifZZ> Toma-, second
[02:50] <Crackez> i hate integrated video
[02:50] <Toma-> ifZZ: open up the Makefile with a text editor. Copy the whole thing. Paste it in the Big text box on that site. Click finish/upload whatever, then gimme the address
[02:51] <Crackez> always a paint
[02:51] <jenco> yea ><
[02:51] <crimsun> stianh: I'm walking cmos_mike through it right now.
[02:51] <Crackez> s/paint/pain/
[02:51] <jenco> never buying compaq again =p
[02:51] <stianh> crimsun: ah okay
[02:51] <Toma-> http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition-sign.html? :D~
[02:51] <P8ntKid> Does anybody know if there is a hoary package of p7zip?
[02:51] <Crackez> damn, my box that just hung is a compaq
[02:51] <stianh> crimsun: then perhaps a log would be sufficient :P
[02:51] <dooglus> how does firefox get its list of trusted certificate authorities?
[02:51] <_jason> corey7, if the beard guy really annoys you you could always look at the gnome-screensaver source and see what's going on
[02:51] <crimsun> stianh: sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r) fakeroot module-assistant
[02:51] <johnnybezak> jenco: i had a compaq laptop it was great
[02:51] <Crackez> why do compaq's suck?
[02:52] <redguy> P8ntKid: looking for it
[02:52] <Crackez> i mean, HP's are pretty good
[02:52] <jrr> hewlett compackard!
[02:52] <jenco> some are but this ms 6577 motherboar is crap ><
[02:52] <cmos_mike> crimsun: I saw I had those packages hidden, added and updated
[02:52] <jrr> hewlett compackard *bell*!
[02:52] <P8ntKid> redguy: You don't have to do that. I could allways look.
[02:52] <jenco> how would i go about blacklisting my ikntergraded vid card?
[02:52] <Crackez> packard bell was the worst
[02:52] <sexcopter8000m> anyone have the link to that page with a fps game to show off firefox 1.5?
[02:52] <Crackez> I have an HP omnibook though, it's pretty solid
[02:52] <jenco> omg packard bell ><
[02:52] <ifZZ> Toma-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5893
[02:53] <Crackez> we use all HP's at work too
[02:53] <redguy> P8ntKid: why did you ask then?
[02:53] <jrr> i've been surprised at acer's quality recently
[02:53] <jenco> i had a 100mgh i tried to install linux on back in the day was horrible !
[02:53] <Crackez> the business desktops are rock solid
[02:53] <poningru> yeah almost all x86 imitators are not so big on quality
[02:53] <johnnybezak> sexcopter8000m: search slashdot it was on there a week or so back
[02:53] <Crackez> well, almost
[02:53] <Crackez> the new ones are, the D530u's crash all the time
[02:53] <KarupT> ANYONE still on Hoary????
[02:53] <P8ntKid> redguy: If someone allready knew.
[02:53] <KarupT> please I need help
[02:53] <redguy> P8ntKid: apparently there's no p7zip in hoary. there's propably a backport though
[02:54] <johnnybezak> KarupT: i will be for the next 20 mins or so :)
[02:54] <P8ntKid> redguy: I found a package anyway. Thanks though.
[02:54] <poningru> KarupT: whats wrong?
[02:54] <KarupT> johnnybezak, Ya mind PM'n me a good sources.lst please
[02:55] <Hobbsee> !tell KarupT about repos
[02:55] <KarupT> poningru, I tried to upgrade from warty to Hoary, everything seemed to be fine but when I rebooted I was still in warty and my apt was broke
[02:55] <ifZZ> Toma-, and?
[02:55] <cmos_mike> crimsun:  That sudo command line produes the following "Package module-assistant has no installation candidate"
[02:55] <Toma-> ifZZ: have you tried using this makefile?
[02:55] <ifZZ> Toma-, how?
[02:55] <poningru> KarupT: how did you try to upgrade?
[02:55] <Toma-> ifZZ: eg, run ./configure, then make then make install?
[02:55] <crimsun> cmos_mike: you didn't enable universe
[02:56] <crimsun> cmos_mike: Settings> Repositories, click community supported
[02:56] <ifZZ> Toma-, yes, "Make" unknown command
[02:56] <Toma-> ifZZ: try make
[02:56] <Toma-> not Make
[02:56] <dooglus> in dapper, my firefox has no certificates in the "authorities" tab.  where can I find the certificates to import?
[02:56] <ifZZ> make install also
[02:56] <ifZZ> i mean make
[02:57] <stianh> crimsun: is cmos_mike going to be applying the same patch as me, or just something similar?
[02:57] <Toma-> ifZZ: well you havent installed build-essentials
[02:57] <bimberi> Hobbsee: did "repos" work for you just then?
[02:57] <Toma-> use 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials'
[02:57] <Hobbsee> bimberi: no
[02:57] <ifZZ> Toma-, u think there is problem?
[02:57] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Is that new to 5.10, I started with 5.04 and Don't have a community supported repository...
[02:57] <crimsun> stianh: something similar. We're going to use 1.0.10-2 from Dapper
[02:57] <Toma-> ifZZ: there is if you keep giving me wrong replies
[02:57] <ifZZ> Toma-, how i use apt-get if a have no drivers for my modem?
[02:57] <renatosansevero> i have a problem with apt-get
[02:57] <renatosansevero> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://br.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory
[02:57] <Toma-> hmmm good point
[02:58] <sexcopter8000m> thanks johnnybezak found it, for the interested reader the link is http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/
[02:58] <renatosansevero> when a try to update or search for something
[02:58] <crimsun> cmos_mike: it's called universe, and it has existed since the beginning
[02:58] <renatosansevero> a lot of bugs appear
[02:58] <Toma-> !info build-essentials
[02:58] <bimberi> Hobbsee: it worked earlier for you in #kubuntu!!
[02:58] <Crackez> ifZZ: how are you online right now?
[02:58] <crimsun> Toma-: it's build-essential
[02:58] <Toma-> oic
[02:58] <Toma-> !info build-essential
[02:58] <ubotflu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:58] <renatosansevero> may anyone help me
[02:58] <Hobbsee> bimberi: doesnt work now though
[02:58] <Toma-> crimsun: would that be on the ubuntu cd?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> in either channel
[02:58] <ifZZ> Crackez, in WinXP :)
[02:59] <ifZZ> !info build-essential
[02:59] <renatosansevero> !info build-essential
[02:59] <ubotflu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:59] <Crackez> well, have enought nics?
[02:59] <crimsun> Toma-: ''apt-cache policy build-essential'' will tell you
[02:59] <cmos_mike> crimsun: I'm an idiot, thanks for bearing with me. I saw my mistake and am updating all marked packages now
[02:59] <Crackez> use winxp as the gateway
[02:59] <jenco> do i just put the driver name in the /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[02:59] <KarupT> poningru, I did dind and replace for all instances of warty in my sources.lst to Hoary, saved it apt-get update > apt-get dist-upgrade   everything looked fine then i rebooted
[03:00] <poningru> hmm ic
[03:00] <KarupT> But i come back to warty and a broken apt
[03:00] <KarupT> Something s wrong in my sources list i think
[03:00] <ifZZ> Toma-, how i can download build-essential?
[03:00] <ifZZ> Toma-, maybe i can found it in google?
[03:00] <jrr> apt archives are generally ftp or http servers
[03:01] <KarupT> the worst part is for some reason I lost gedit, and I cant find another graphical editor on here
[03:01] <Toma-> ifZZ: nope.
[03:01] <Crackez> vim!
[03:01] <Toma-> ifZZ: well im stumped.
[03:01] <KarupT> poningru, got ne idea's?
[03:01] <ifZZ> Toma-, sorry, i don't understand what's @stumped@ i am russian :(
[03:01] <Crackez> damn compaq
[03:02] <TheUrza> alright.. well ive compiled wine, trying to install WoW to ubun. but whenever i try the ./tools/wineinstall command it gives error of "./configure: line 996: config.log: Permission denied"
[03:02] <jdkycdoc> hi, has anybody have problems with the keyboard layout selector? mine just doesn't work i can change the selection but everything still the same
[03:02] <jdkycdoc> any help?
[03:02] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Commands completed successfully
[03:02] <Crackez> anyone want to buy a dual Xeon w/ 1GB or RAM and a 6 disk RAID?
[03:03] <crimsun> cmos_mike: now, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/alsa-driver
[03:03] <poningru> KarupT: what I would say is
[03:03] <kurt_> Quick question... I've downloaded what has seemed to be 300 different ubuntu iso's. All of them have md5 mismatches on various debs (most often the linux kernel.) -- I've tried two cd burners, and I cannot figure out why the md5 mismatches are happening. Is this a common problem?
[03:03] <crimsun> cmos_mike: click the "alsa-source" link
[03:03] <kurt_> I've tried multiple mirrors, and even the dvd iso bittorrent has this problem.
[03:04] <poningru> just download the breezy cd and just put it in
[03:04] <poningru> it will update automatically
[03:04] <Crackez> kurt_, no it is not
[03:04] <crimsun> cmos_mike: scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the "all" link under Download...
 people beta test a MS product every time they boot windows
[03:04] <kurt_> well Crackez : I have no clue why this is happening.
[03:04] <Crackez> kurt_, what are you downloading with?
[03:04] <kurt_> firefox.
[03:04] <KarupT> poningru, I cant, i have no blaks, lol upgrading is easy anyways, i just need a new source.lst a good one
[03:04] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Okay, choose closest d/l point or specific
[03:05] <Crackez> hmm, i've never had a problem with firefox, what about your network connection, is it flakey?
[03:05] <donfrenchiano> hey can someone tell me how to change the login manager from gdm to kdm
[03:05] <kurt_> nope.
[03:05] <KarupT> crimsun, ya know where i can get a sources.lst for Hoary
[03:05] <poningru> KarupT: can you handle vi?
[03:05] <poningru> or emacs?
[03:05] <crimsun> !tell KarupT about sources
[03:05] <kurt_> I've downloaded debian iso's and such and all of them pass the checks.
[03:05] <crimsun> cmos_mike: just choose one
[03:05] <Crackez> kurt_, the smae thing happened to me once, and it was my nic
[03:05] <kurt_> it's a nvnet nic.
[03:06] <Crackez> actually that whole machine died... ah memories
[03:06] <newbie_> hello
[03:06] <kurt_> I don't know if that'd be it, though.
[03:06] <donfrenchiano> anyone?
[03:06] <M_Cheevy> quickly guys, what's the correct entry for /dev and /tmp in /etc/fstab?
[03:06] <Crackez> well, maybe not, thats just how it was for me
[03:06] <kurt_> Because I've burnt other iso's of other distrobutions to check... and even recently downloaded iso's passed without md5 mismatches.
[03:07] <Crackez> do you have a unix machine elsewhere that you could do the download from?
[03:07] <kurt_> Yes. This one.
[03:07] <kurt_> let me try that out
[03:07] <Crackez> perhaps your isp has a flakey router...
[03:07] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Okay, successfully downloaded alsa-source_1.0.10-2_all.deb
[03:08] <donfrenchiano> is there a file where you specify what login manager to use
[03:08] <crimsun> cmos_mike: ok, now install it: sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-2_all.deb
[03:08] <jrr> donfrenchiano: do you want to use a different one or none at all?
[03:08] <corey7> how do i put recycle bin on desktop
[03:08] <kurt_> it would suck if it's that. I was planning to set up a gigabit network, and I don't want to buy more nics
[03:08] <TheUrza> alright. if ive compiled wine the way this website says for me to do, when trying to install WoW. How do i actually install the compiled Wine i have just made?
[03:08] <kurt_> heh
[03:09] <donfrenchiano> i want to switch from gdm to kdm jrr
[03:09] <jrr> donfrenchiano: is kdm in apt?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> jrr: should be
[03:09] <jenco> do i just put the driver name in the /etc/hotplug/blacklist? or is that wrong?
[03:09] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Okay,  looks like that command completed good as well
[03:09] <M_Cheevy> can someone please copy me their /etc/fstab /tmp mount line?
[03:09] <crimsun> cmos_mike: great, now: sudo adduser $USER src
[03:10] <jrr> donfrenchiano: i'm not sure about the *correct* way to do it, but you might do some chmod +/-x in /etc/rc2.d
[03:10] <donfrenchiano> yeah i already have it installed i just need to know how to switch it to the default login jrr
[03:10] <topdeck> is there a way to install unrar-nonfree in Ubuntu 5.10, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree is giving me an error
[03:10] <cmos_mike> crimsun: okay, good on that as well
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[03:10] <ubotflu> rar is, like, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> thtas an ugly url. :P
[03:10] <crimsun> cmos_mike: now: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[03:11] <topdeck> thanks Dr_Willis
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> topdeck,  proberly says to set up the other repos and apt-get it :P
[03:11] <Crackez> i wish i had gigabit, i still have a cisco 3640 with only 10mbit interfaces
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Crackez,  Ick!
[03:11] <M_Cheevy> on my 14th google page and finally found what I'm looking for... I think.. is this right: "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0"?
[03:12] <cmos_mike> crimsun: THat command completed, but produced no visual output. (note that I have snd_hda_intel blacklisted)
[03:12] <Crackez> it routes between my wifi and the rest of my lan
[03:12] <kurt_> Crackez: the box I'm on right now is just up for storage / such. Soon it'll become my router, so heh. I'll be doing fine shortly. (-- Stupid d-link router currently.)
[03:12] <Crackez> i have a crappy linksys that I got from vonage
[03:12] <Crackez> it sucks, cause I have to use it to use vonage currently
[03:13] <kurt_> ick.
[03:13] <Crackez> i would much rahter have the cisco handling the cable
[03:13] <jenco> am i going about this wrong guys, trying to get my ati card to work but when i install it hotplug goes nuts... and causes a kernel panic do u think i could blacklist my other video card (witch i think it's causeing the problems)  so i can install my ati card or does blacklisting even work like that?
[03:13] <crimsun> cmos_mike: err, did you walk through the dialogs?
[03:13] <crimsun> cmos_mike: (yes to PnP, yes to debug, and choose the hda driver)
[03:13] <KarupT> crimsun, 4 some reason I don't have any graphical editors, so Im not sure how to take my new source list from my clipboard and overwrite the current one??
[03:13] <cmos_mike> crimsun: It produced no dialogs...
[03:14] <Crackez> cat > sources.lst
[03:14] <Crackez> middle click
[03:14] <Crackez> or edit paste
[03:14] <crimsun> KarupT: did you remove gedit?
[03:16] <KarupT> crimsun, not that i know of, but its not in my path anymore after i rebooted and if i try to apt-get install gedit it says it cant cause the flllowing packages have unmet depende... blah blah
[03:17] <Crackez> i think i'll let memtest run over night, see if this compaq has more problems then I know about
[03:17] <crimsun> cmos_mike: hmm, you don't have an /etc/alsa/alsa-source.conf ?
[03:17] <KarupT> crimsun, ?
[03:17] <crimsun> KarupT: what did you change in your repository list?
[03:18] <cmos_mike> crimsun: I do have that file actually
[03:18] <crimsun> cmos_mike: please paste its contents onto pastebin
[03:19] <KarupT> crimsun, I did find and replace for all instances of warty in my sources.lst to Hoary with gedit, saved it apt-get update > apt-get dist-upgrade   everything looked fine then i rebooted
[03:19] <cmos_mike> crimsun: NP, thanks for your help
[03:19] <bulio> anyone know a good sim city clone?
[03:19] <bulio> for ubuntu
[03:19] <Toma-> lincity-sg
[03:19] <KarupT> crimsun, but when i rebooted i was still in Warty
[03:20] <bulio> lincity, isnt too great
[03:20] <bulio> any others?
[03:21] <will00> trying to start add applications from live cd but it is not loading please help!!
[03:21] <alekz> hi, a good alternative of ms outlook to save contacts and a nice calendar ?
[03:21] <will00> evolution
[03:21] <kurt_> A good alternative of ms outlook to save contacts and a nice calendar is doing fine, thanks.
[03:22] <cmos_mike> crimsun: I've pasted the file at (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5894)
[03:22] <lucychili> bulio: http://www.lokigames.com/products/sc3k/ if you can find a copy
[03:22] <KarupT> crimsun, ya there man?
[03:22] <will00> trying to start add applications from live cd but it is not loading please help me!!!!!
[03:23] <crimsun> cmos_mike: change ALSA_CARDS="all" to ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"
[03:23] <crimsun> cmos_mike: next, change ALSA_DEBUG="" to ALSA_DEBUG="y"
[03:23] <will00> trying to start add applications from live cd but it is not loading please help!!
[03:23] <crimsun> KarupT: yes?
[03:23] <KarupT> crimsun, i answer your question check scroll back
[03:23] <theCore> will00, okay
[03:24] <KarupT> answered*
[03:24] <will00> theCore:pm me
[03:24] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Okay, values changed
[03:24] <theCore> will00, no
[03:24] <will00> ok then do you have a solution to the problem?
[03:24] <theCore> will00, (my answer are always public)
[03:24] <will00> i get it
[03:25] <KarupT> crimsun, I can tell ya again, but i dun wanna repeat so can I PM yoou?
[03:25] <pedro> hello - having trouble with the dapper drake flight 2 installation...   Anybody successfully done this in a fresh dir?  installation doesn't seem to include evms_activate - dumps me into ash on boot    help?
[03:25] <theCore> will00, do you have 2 cd drive ?
[03:25] <will00> yes
[03:25] <theCore> will00, insert the install disk
[03:25] <Phusion> hey, so I just installed breezy and got through the first stage of the install, installed Grub, but when I boot, grub just sits at Please Wait... forever
[03:26] <tonisius> ok, wondering, what is the url for the resolution fix
[03:26] <tonisius> kinda fuxed up my computer now trying to do what that pos told me to do
[03:26] <theCore> will00, then you will be prompt for lauching Synaptic
[03:26] <Phusion> I made my ubuntu partition on a different drive from my primary windows xp partition
[03:26] <tonisius> !tellme about resfix
[03:26] <tonisius> !tell tonisius about resfix
[03:26] <crimsun> cmos_mike: great
[03:26] <tonisius> bah
[03:27] <tonisius> what is the resfix url?
[03:27] <will00> ill try that
[03:27] <crimsun> tonisius: ask ubotflu about it
[03:27] <tonisius> and, havent you seen me spamming the poor bot?
[03:27] <tonisius> grah
[03:27] <crimsun> KarupT: you can use a nominal text editor in a Terminal, too
[03:27] <theCore> will00, after lauching Synaptic, you will be able to install the apps you want
[03:27] <crimsun> KarupT: for instance, nano
[03:27] <tonisius> !ask about resfix
[03:27] <ubotflu> Syntax error in line 1, tonisius
[03:28] <tonisius> !screwyou
[03:28] <ubotflu> tonisius: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:28] <will00> ok it seems to be working
[03:28] <crimsun> tonisius: /msg ubotflu fixres
[03:28] <tonisius> i hope so
[03:28] <tonisius> thank you
[03:28] <theCore> will00, what do you want to install ?
[03:28] <will00> got these errors:E: Malformed line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[03:28] <will00> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:28] <tonisius> now i can work and leave the bot alone
[03:28] <KarupT> crimsun, i can never figure those out, they make me frustrated, what other graphical editors might have come with warty? or Hoary?
[03:28] <theCore> will00, are you running "Add Application" ?
[03:29] <cmos_mike> I like pico (or nano for new school)
[03:29] <will00> i see the problem now
[03:29] <theCore> will00, if so, you will need to close it
[03:29] <durt> i have this wmv that totem and gxine say is "encrypted" and mplayer plays just plays a rainbow of colors. how can i play it?
[03:29] <crimsun> KarupT: nano is really straightforward
[03:30] <tonisius> ok, i've done everything, and fixing my res seems near a miracle if it is possible
[03:30] <crimsun> cmos_mike: now, module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[03:30] <poningru> KarupT: can you try openoffice writer?
[03:30] <tonisius> xorg.conf has the right resolutions that are set by the modes, but gnome's only option is 640x480
[03:30] <will00> now i have these E: Malformed line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[03:30] <will00> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:30] <will00> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[03:30] <will00> E: Malformed line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[03:30] <will00> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:30] <Hobbsee> will00: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[03:31] <theCore> will00, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:31] <KarupT> poningru, yea but it would only save with an extension like .txt or .doc but i have my /etc/apt/sources.list open in nano, how do i delete everything, and paste my clipboard, and save
[03:32] <will00> where is that?
[03:32] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Completed that step, although last output was "Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload)"
[03:32] <KarupT> whats the name of the gnome file explorer?
[03:32] <stianh> nautilus
[03:33] <crimsun> cmos_mike: ok, good. Please ''sudo depmod -a'' and paste the output from ''modinfo snd-hda-intel'' onto pastebin
[03:33] <cmos_mike> KarupT: I'm not sure how to clear it all in nano, but you'll have to paste your clipboard with the window copy/paste menus
[03:33] <theCore> will00, there >>> pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:33] <tonisius> I've set everything up properly, my screen section has the right modes set, but i only have 640x480 available when changing resolutions in GNOME
[03:33] <tonisius> http://pastebin.com/469680
[03:34] <theCore> will00, do you know how to use the terminal ?
[03:34] <KarupT> is there a way to make nautilus have an address bar, and not everything in a new window, maybe a file tree on the side?
[03:34] <theCore> will00, or at least find it ?
[03:34] <holycow> tonisius, do you have the correct refresh rates for your monitor ?
[03:34] <will00> i got it there
[03:34] <tonisius> grah, wouldnt i have a screwed up looking monitor if they were incorrect?
[03:35] <KarupT> stianh, is there a way to make nautilus have an address bar, and not everything in a new window, maybe a file tree on the side?
[03:35] <tonisius> I'll go check, but they should be correct
[03:35] <theCore> will00, LOL
[03:35] <cmos_mike> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5896 Thanks
[03:35] <stianh> KarupT: yes, but I have no clue how :P
[03:35] <will00> it's on pastebin
[03:35] <theCore> will00, not '/etc/apt/sources.list' but the content of it
[03:35] <stianh> KarupT:
[03:35] <will00> ok
[03:36] <KarupT> stianh, ??
[03:36] <Delvien> Can ANYONE help me with this SAMBA problem ?http://pastebin.com/469682
[03:36] <theCore> will00, no need to do it
[03:36] <stianh> Karupt: check system -> user settings -> and something similar to "filehandling" (sorry I am using norwegian setup)
[03:36] <theCore> theCore, will00, do you know how to use the terminal ?  or at least find it ?
[03:36] <stianh> and you should get some config for nautilus
[03:36] <will00> yes
[03:36] <crimsun> cmos_mike: great. Now: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[03:37] <stianh> KarupT: not shure if those are the corrept one
[03:37] <theCore> will00, okay, lets work with commands
[03:37] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Awesome, something popped up about new device detected but didn't catch the text
[03:37] <KarupT> stianh, i dun have system im on warty
[03:37] <stianh> hmm
[03:37] <crimsun> cmos_mike: the notification in the lower right corner?
[03:37] <stianh> then I am sorry
[03:37] <cmos_mike> crimsun: yes
[03:37] <theCore> will00, enter this in the term, `sudo aptitude update`
[03:38] <crimsun> cmos_mike: excellent. Now I need the output from ''cat /proc/asound/cards''
[03:38] <krage83> how do i read the /var/log file?
[03:38] <crimsun> (/var/log is a directory)
[03:38] <will00> these errors E: Malformed line 16 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[03:38] <will00> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:38] <crimsun> will00: what's line 16?
[03:39] <theCore> will00, you may want to have the universe rep, then enter that: `sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list`
[03:39] <Bachus9000> I'm exporting various NFS shares on a Debian Sarge machine and have been mounting those shares on Ubuntu (Breezy) machines.  Things were working great until today.  I've setup a hotspot (using Chillispot on DD-WRT on a WRT54GL) today and it now assigns IPs in the 192.168.182.* range while the Debian box has kept its 192.168.0.4 IP.  I updated /etc/exports on the Debian box to allow access from 192.168.182.* and the clients ca
[03:39] <Bachus9000> n still mount the shares, but if I try to access any files or directories in those shares the program I'm using (so far Nautilus, ls, and cd) freezes.  Any ideas what isn't configured right?
[03:39] <cmos_mike> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5897
[03:40] <crimsun> cmos_mike: now, sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[03:40] <Necrosan> does ubuntu come with a native pdf reader
[03:40] <Necrosan> or is that too much to ask for?
[03:40] <stianh> hehe
[03:40] <crimsun> evince works
[03:40] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Command completed, but again no output/dialog boxes where produced
[03:40] <will00> theCore: line 16 is deb local sarge main
[03:41] <krage83> how do i read the /var/log file?
[03:41] <crimsun> cmos_mike: good
[03:41] <durt> is there an app that converts asf/wmv videos to avi/mpgs?
[03:41] <theCore> will00, hmm. sarge ... are you on debian ?
[03:41] <crimsun> cmos_mike: tail -1 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[03:41] <will00> i think so
[03:42] <will00> i am just using the live ubuntu cd
[03:42] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Output was "0: Realtek ALC880"
[03:42] <theCore> will00, wierd
[03:42] <will00> i know
[03:42] <crimsun> cmos_mike: excellent. Now paste the output from ''amixer'' onto pastebin
[03:43] <KarupT> ANYONE know how  to make nautilus have an address bar, and not everything in a new window, maybe a file tree on the side?
[03:43] <theCore> will00, paste the content of /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin
[03:43] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Thanks, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5898
[03:44] <crimsun> cmos_mike: hmm, is that all the output? It seems cutoff
[03:44] <crimsun> cut off, rather
[03:45] <durt> karupt: yeah, its in the gconf editor somewhere - hold on
[03:45] <Nameeater> is it possible to drop into console mode and kill X to install the NVIDIA drivers?
[03:45] <cmos_mike> crimsun: I'll check again, but I just ran amixer > card.txt and pasted the contents from that file to pastebin
[03:45] <onbail> ah yes yes
[03:45] <crimsun> Nameeater: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <theCore> theCore, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[03:45] <crimsun> cmos_mike: ok. Then it's time to test. aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[03:46] <scott_> hey, i need help. i just set up a home network and i didnt se a password or anything, but now its asking for a password and i have no clue as to what it might be. is there a default or something?
[03:46] <theCore> will00, nevermind, i got your paste
[03:46] <will00> ok
[03:46] <onbail> does anyone know how to get the res. bigger then 1024:768 to say 1280:1024. it doesn't seem to be an option :S
[03:47] <theCore> will00, remove ``deb local sarge main'' from the file
[03:47] <bimberi> scott_: use your user account's password
[03:47] <theCore> will00, it shouldn't be there
[03:47] <scott_> i tried
[03:47] <will00> ok
[03:48] <bimberi> scott_: what are you doing that requires a password?
[03:48] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Now thats a some good sound :)
[03:48] <scott_> bimberi: i tried my password and anything i would normally set as a password for something, none of them worked
[03:48] <theCore> will00, after try to run `sudo aptitude update` again
[03:48] <will00> i just worked
[03:48] <crimsun> cmos_mike: excellent :)
[03:48] <stianh> yay :)
[03:48] <will00> it just worked without using the terminal
[03:48] <theCore> will00, that is nice
[03:48] <crimsun> cmos_mike: if you log out of and back into GNOME, you should have sound without extra trickery
[03:48] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Thanks for your help
[03:49] <crimsun> cmos_mike: and it'll work on reboot, too
[03:49] <cat> hey how can i be remove from the mailing list?
[03:49] <stianh> crimsun: feel like helping with applying that patch? or do you need a smoke and a red bull?
[03:49] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Should I un-blacklist snd_hda_intel
[03:49] <crimsun> cmos_mike: yes
[03:49] <theCore> cat, which ?
[03:49] <crimsun> stianh: url?
[03:49] <scott_> bimberi: all i am trying to do is access the home network i set up, but apparently there is a password
[03:49] <stianh> crimsun: http://sq5bpm.sp5zcc.waw.pl/v2040/hda_codec.diff
[03:49] <ElitePete> lyrically i'm mario andretti
[03:50] <bimberi> scott_: home network?  do you mean samba shares?
[03:50] <scott_> yup
[03:50] <gimmulf> Is there some kind of bug in openoffice->oowriter2 that makes it possible to insert a picture on other pages than page1? im freaking out !
[03:50] <cat> theCore, i have a bunch of it
[03:50] <cat> that's why
[03:50] <durt> karupt: to get the address bar, run "gconf-editor" go to apps>nautilus>preferences and check start_with_location_bar. i dont know about the other stuff - just play around with it
[03:50] <cmos_mike> crimsun: Thanks for your help, I'm going to reboot and see if I can get past hotplug subsystem boot freeze I get without the blacklist
[03:50] <gimmulf> impossible...
[03:50] <tonisius> ok, should i shoot someone in the foot?
[03:50] <stianh> crimsun: basically what "we" have to work with is a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop, and audio doesn't work, alsa thinks it does, but it doesn't
[03:50] <Nameeater> crimsun: they havn't updated to the latest nvidia driver yet
[03:50] <tonisius> holycow, i have the right refresh rates
[03:51] <tonisius> holycow, now what.
[03:51] <bimberi> scott_: ah, you will need to set up a samba password "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" - more details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[03:51] <crimsun> cmos_mike: the reason for that freeze is due to the kernel spinning while trying to initialize your sound card
[03:51] <crimsun> d'oh
[03:51] <scott_> bimberi: haha, thank you.
[03:51] <ElitePete> lyrically i'm mario andretti
[03:52] <bimberi> scott_: np :)
[03:52] <crimsun> Nameeater: does your hardware absolutely require the newest available driver?
[03:52] <Nameeater> crimsun: the last version crashed every so often so I believe its worth a shot upgrading to see if that fixes it
[03:52] <tonisius> @_@
[03:52] <crimsun> stianh: hmm, it might actually be easier to just use 1.0.10-2 just as cmos_mike is
[03:52] <holycow> tonisius, that is all that is required, restart x by either logging out or doing ctrl / alt/ backspace.  then you should have options for resolution capabilities of your monitor.  have you restarted x?
[03:52] <crimsun> Nameeater: ok, then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[03:53] <Nameeater> thanks :)
[03:53] <bimberi> cat: which mailing list? ubuntu-users?
[03:53] <tonisius> but, the refresh rates are correct, and i've rebooted several times, the options in the xorg.conf arent being used
[03:53] <xerophyte> can you able to take  Mozilla Public License project and start another version of open source project just wondering
[03:53] <crimsun> xerophyte: yes, but it may not be able to be distributed in the fashion that you imagine
[03:53] <theCore> cat, there is an unsubscribe link in each email send via the mailing list
[03:53] <stianh> crimsun: hmm, is that what comes with the most recent flight 2 cd? cause it's the same there anyway
[03:53] <tonisius> *SOB*  TT_TT
[03:54] <xerophyte> crimsun, the span one going to be open source too can you do that
[03:54] <crimsun> xerophyte: come again?
[03:55] <crimsun> stianh: what is this diff against?
[03:55] <tonisius> holycow, but, the refresh rates are correct, and i've rebooted several times, the options in the xorg.conf arent being used
[03:55] <stianh> crimsun: "I debugged this a little, and  	my conclusion is that the sound chip reports that there are two  	surround channels, but then crashes when Linux tries to actually use  	them. When I removed that code, it worked for me."
[03:55] <xerophyte> crimsun, i mean i am going to take the MPL code and make another open source project called project-NG you know what i mean
[03:56] <xerophyte> crimsun, can you do that with MPL
[03:56] <crimsun> stianh: no, I mean what version
[03:56] <crimsun> stianh: i.e., the version in Breezy? the version upstream, if so, which?
[03:57] <holycow> tonisius, ummm?  really? that sounds like such a windows thing heh ... okay. did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:57] <stianh> crimsun: the page I got this off does not say specifically. the guy is using gentoo though
[03:57] <crimsun> xerophyte: within certain limits, sure. Read the MPL for the gory details.
[03:57] <crimsun> stianh: err...
[03:57] <ElitePete> lyrically i'm mario andretti
[03:57] <stianh> crimsun: nothing else I could find seems to solve that problem
[03:58] <stianh> I am using 5.10
[03:58] <crimsun> stianh: ok, well, regardless you'll need to follow the same basic procedure cmos_mike did
[03:58] <xerophyte> crimsun, its not easy to read for me .. i read but i could not get ti what it really meant i am ESL person :)
[03:58] <ElitePete> xerophyte, what country you from?
[03:58] <ElitePete> ES?
[03:58] <stianh> crimsun: okay, I've been taking notes :p
[03:58] <Phusion> I have a Grub question....  I have 3 hard drives and several partitions.. WinxXP on a primary drive and ubuntu on a secondary drive
[03:58] <stianh> crimsun: but, I only came in at installing build-essentials and so on
[03:59] <Phusion> got through the first stage, but second stage it hangs on Loading Grub, Please Wait
[03:59] <Phusion> I reinstalled grub, still no boot
[03:59] <crimsun> stianh: have you installed build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and fakeroot?
[03:59] <crimsun> stianh: and module-assistant?
[03:59] <Phusion> when I install to MBA, it says installing to HD0 ... is that right?
[03:59] <stianh> crimsun: yes, I did that whole thing
[03:59] <Phusion> how can I get the boot menu to work?
[03:59] <stianh> but, when installing the dapper alsa-source package I got a message
[03:59] <crimsun> stianh: did you download alsa-source_1.0.10-2_all.deb?
[04:00] <tonisius> holycow, yes i've done it
[04:00] <Delvien> Can ANYONE help me with this SAMBA problem ?http://pastebin.com/469682
[04:00] <stianh> I think I should connect from the actually computer now for cuting and pasting
[04:00] <stianh> crimsun: back in two
[04:00] <Phusion> so... anyone.... grub
[04:00] <holycow> tonisius, at this point i don't think you have a choice but to either a: reinstall xorg and make sure all config files are removed and purged before reinstall, or reinstall the os
[04:01] <tonisius> grah
[04:01] <tonisius> T_T
[04:01] <holycow> reinstalling ubuntu shouldn't be necessary, but i have never heard of xorg not actually taking up the vertical refresh rate info properly before
[04:01] <stianh> crimsun, back!
[04:01] <tonisius> wanted to try this "easiest os to use" since I'm used to using Fedora Core using KDE
[04:01] <poningru> how do you use a font?
[04:02] <holycow> tonisius, yeah it always happens like that, i have never heard of this issue before.  so you installed what just recently?
[04:02] <crimsun> stianh: ok, did you sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-2_all.deb ?
[04:02] <holycow> what is the pastebin to your xorg config file?
[04:02] <poningru> !font
[04:02] <ubotflu> Bugger all, i dunno, poningru
[04:02] <stianh> crimsun, yeah, I got some errors, partly in norwegian, so that sucks for pastebin'ing though. but I'll try anyway
[04:03] <xerophyte> ElitePete, i am from SriLanka .. i speak tamil .. english is not my first language its "English is my Second language" = ESL
[04:03] <tonisius> holycow, just installed ubuntu 5.10 available on the site just a a few hours ago
[04:03] <xerophyte> ElitePete, and license are hard to read only lawyer knows how to read them like doctors notes ;)
[04:03] <holycow> tonisius, okay, pastebin your xorg file for us
[04:03] <holycow> again, i know, i lost the original
[04:04] <stianh> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/469701
[04:04] <KarupT> durt, I make changes in gconf, but they dont seem to take affext, must i update or save something?
[04:04] <stianh> if that makes any sense at all :S
[04:05] <crimsun> stianh: I don't speak that language natively, but I can guess
[04:05] <crimsun> stianh: I presume you're running Breezy?
[04:05] <stianh> yes
[04:05] <crimsun> stianh: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:05] <scott_> bimberi: i have just one more question. the network is working beautifully. now my problem is that the printer isnt being detected over the network. it is detected locally on my computer, but the network wont pick it up
[04:05] <stianh> it's a fresh install and just ran apt-get dist-upgrade as well
[04:06] <KarupT> What is the bin to call the nautilus browser, not the regular one, please ANYONE
[04:06] <crimsun> nautilus --browser
[04:06] <stianh> crimsun, that returned something similar http://pastebin.com/469706
[04:06] <KarupT> ty so much once again crimsun
[04:07] <bimberi> scott_: is the printer connected to your ubuntu box?
[04:07] <durt> any luck karupt?
[04:07] <crimsun> stianh: ok, probably the /bin/sh issue then
[04:08] <crimsun> stianh: no big deal
[04:08] <stianh> hmm, what issue is that?
[04:08] <stianh> hmm
[04:08] <crimsun> stianh: a bug in the script for bash, fixed in -3, but harmless
[04:08] <stianh> hmm okay
[04:08] <stianh> how do I fix then? :)
[04:09] <crimsun> just continue
[04:09] <tonisius> holycow,  http://pastebin.com/469680
[04:09] <crimsun> stianh: unfortunately you'll have to by-hand everything
[04:09] <stianh> crimsun: that's ok
[04:09] <stianh> perhaps not for you though ;)
[04:09] <crimsun> stianh: so: add your user to the src group, then log out and back in (or log in on a separate console)
[04:10] <scott_> hey, i have a problem. my printer isnt being detected over the samba network. it is working fine locally, but it cant be detected on other computers on the network so they can print
[04:10] <holycow> tonisius, one sec
[04:10] <stianh> crimsun done
[04:10] <ruspu> HEsaria lukemaan.
[04:10] <ruspu> --->
[04:10] <tonisius> holycow, thanks
[04:11] <holycow> tonisius, you screwed something up
[04:11] <tonisius> oh?
[04:11] <crimsun> stianh: now cd /usr/src && tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver
[04:11] <holycow> here is my monitor section: http://pastebin.com/469709
[04:11] <holycow> please adjust yours to correct refresh rates and restart x
[04:12] <holycow> you can google up the correct refresh rates for yoru moni ...
[04:12] <Crackez> does anyone know f issue with the i440BX chipset?
[04:12] <holycow> ubunty has included a utility that checks up on your moni, but for some reason it may not have had info on your current setup
[04:12] <holycow> ubunty = ubuntu
[04:12] <holycow> don't ask me what the hell ubunty is
[04:12] <holycow> hehe :)
[04:12] <stianh> crimsun, I don't seem to have access, lots of errors writing files
[04:13] <ejofee> when i "modprobe <module>", i don't find it loaded after reboot (so i have to "modprobe <module>" again); how do i avoid this? (i prefer a one-liner shell fix)
[04:13] <stianh> crimsun, nm
[04:13] <techrush> is there a way to repartition a osx install so i can make room for a ubuntu ppc installl, ive found some commercial options but nothing for free
[04:13] <stianh> crimsun, okay, now I'm there
[04:14] <tonisius> holycow, thanks
[04:14] <durt> ejofee: simple - add it to /etc/modules
[04:14] <theblue> I have 2 boxes, both with Breezy, and one with data I want to keep on it, the other I don't care about.  How could I make them into a cluster?
[04:14] <tonisius> holycow, I'll check it out, although, this laptop doesnt really have specs i can check out
[04:14] <holycow> tonisius, no worries, don't forget to restart x, don't need to reboot jus tlogout
[04:14] <tonisius> yeah, relog, or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[04:14] <holycow> tonisius, actually they do have refresh rates, don't ask me how or what
[04:14] <holycow> why i mean
[04:14] <tonisius> I'll look oin dell.com then
[04:15] <holycow> or google and add xorg.conf in there :) chances are you aren't the only person running ubuntu on it
[04:15] <ejofee> durt: so is it safe to use this one-liner: "sudo bash -c "echo <module> >> /etc/modules"?
[04:16] <durt> should work, yes, ejofee
[04:16] <crimsun> stianh: ok, does /etc/alsa/alsa-source.conf exist?
[04:17] <ejofee> durt: thank you!
[04:17] <simonvallore> Hello does anyone know what the package with the c dependancies is called ?
[04:17] <stianh> crimsun, yes
[04:17] <tonisius> holycow, ok, thanks, youre the most help i've had so far
[04:17] <tempest1> does anybody know how to install the JRE for FireFox 1.0.7 (Ubuntu 5.10) ?
[04:17] <crimsun> simonvallore: do you mean a compiler?
[04:17] <simonvallore> yeah
[04:17] <simonvallore> the gcc c compiler
[04:17] <crimsun> simonvallore: install build-essential
[04:17] <holycow> tonisius, lol no worries bro, just remember ubuntu is attracting A LOT of new people, most of them with minimal skills
[04:17] <simonvallore> thanks crimsun
[04:18] <holycow> the ratio of experience to newb here is very low, patience is required
[04:18] <crimsun> holycow: s/minimal/different/
[04:18] <USCRyan> *question* how can i get a plugin video player for mozilla? the default totemplayer doesnt work
[04:18] <sethk> holycow, for a minute I thought phil risuto was on line
[04:18] <scott_> can somebody please help me out. im having some samba difficulties...
[04:18] <ejofee> durt: some say /etc/modules is obsolete. any idea why?
[04:18] <holycow> lol well okay -_-
[04:18] <stianh> crimsun, should I edit those things that cmos-person edited? ALSA_CARDS and ALSA_DEBUG?
[04:19] <crimsun> stianh: yep
[04:19] <durt> ejofee, who says that? it works anyway, so i dont know
[04:19] <holycow> sethk hehehe :)
[04:19] <sethk> ejofee, it was the default for the 2.4 kernel module tools
[04:19] <stianh> crimsun pnp thing?
[04:19] <crimsun> stianh: leave it
[04:19] <stianh> okay
[04:19] <stianh> done
[04:20] <stianh> now module assistant?
[04:20] <ejofee> sethk: and does 2.6 have another default?
[04:20] <sethk> ejofee, I think it is a different name in /etc.  I'll have to check.  I usually avoid modules.
[04:20] <kuxman> I've got 3 network cards, each registered on my school's network with a static IP.  Each card is limited to 2GB up/down combined a day.  I'm looking for a way to balance my network load (primarally using bittorrent) accross all three cards.  Anyone have any ideas?
[04:20] <crimsun> stianh: no, now you have to apply the diff. I presume you've downloaded it to your $HOME?
[04:20] <sethk> ejofee, man modprobe will probably tell you
[04:20] <stianh> crimsun, yes
[04:21] <crimsun> stianh: ok, now install patch
[04:21] <sethk> kuxman, you need to turn on clustering support in the kernel, and then configure one of the clustering packages.
[04:21] <stianh> crimsun, yes, on that point I am absolutely blank, how do I patch?
[04:21] <crimsun> stianh: I'm walking you through it. For now, install the patch package.
[04:21] <TkOut> quick question
[04:22] <TkOut> what is the default kernel on the 5.10 install?
[04:22] <kuxman> sethk, i assume that would require a re-compile of the kernel?  and do you have a suggestion for a clustering package?
[04:22] <sethk> kuxman, you can also use something like traffic shaper
[04:22] <crimsun> 2.6.10-9-386
[04:22] <stianh> crimsun, what patch page?
[04:22] <crimsun> stianh: no, sudo apt-get install patch
[04:22] <stianh> aha
[04:22] <stianh> :)
[04:22] <sethk> kuxman, I've really just glanced at them.  Usually you have to rebuild the kernel, but it's possible that the distribution kernel has it as an unloaded module.
[04:22] <TkOut> what package system are you using apt-get?
[04:22] <stianh> crimsun: apt-get is complaining about alsa-source :S
[04:22] <TkOut> nm
[04:22] <TkOut> lol
[04:22] <kuxman> sethk, thanks, I'll take a look at what I can find
[04:23] <sethk> kuxman, there is also support for some intelligent routing protocols.  That's another way to approach it
[04:23] <stianh> http://pastebin.com/469716
[04:23] <kuxman> sethk, support in the kernel or in ubuntu in general?
[04:23] <toya_> hi people
[04:23] <sethk> kuxman, the kernel.  I'm porting the kernel to a new platform so I've been into the kernel internals all day.  :)
[04:23] <sethk> kuxman, in networking, there is support for the border gateway protocol and one or two others
[04:24] <toya_> i need help on theming
[04:24] <toya_> can someone tell me what a metacity file is
[04:24] <damian_> Hello, I got a question, for some reason every time I reboot the computer I have to redefine the gateway device for my ionternet connection. Do someone know how to fix that? Thanks
[04:24] <kuxman> sethk, sounds like loads of fun :).  I'll stick around... see what I can dig up
[04:24] <sonare> toya_ the #gnome or #kde channels might be of help to you
[04:25] <crimsun> stianh: erg, sec.
[04:25] <stianh> crimsun: though, according to synaptic I have patch installed
[04:25] <disasm> I'm working on getting firefox 1.5 compiled on amd64 i keep getting an error /usr/bin/ld: jsapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `memset@@GLIBC_2.2.5' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC - Anyone else getting this error, and if so what did you do to fix it? It looks like its saying I need to recompile glibc, which if that's the case I might scrap my attempt of getting an amd64 version of firefox to run
[04:25] <stianh> according to my terminal as well
[04:25] <stianh> :P
[04:25] <crimsun> stianh: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[04:26] <dragoon> wooo
[04:26] <dragoon> will be running dapper soon
[04:26] <toya_> thx
[04:26] <sonare> quick question; are the universe & multivers repositories on the ubuntu install cd?
[04:26] <stianh> crimsun, that worked
[04:26] <crimsun> sonare: no, they're over 15 GB
[04:26] <sonare> argh! i have a friend on dialup
[04:26] <crimsun> sonare: not sure how they'd fit on a CD.
[04:26] <sonare> i must get them for him.
[04:26] <stianh> perhaps they'd find on a doublesided dual layered dvd :o
[04:27] <stianh> s/find/fit
[04:27] <sonare> oh god, he will be so disappointed without wine or mp3
[04:27] <disasm> sonare: can always manually download the debs you need and burn to cd
[04:27] <crimsun> stianh: ok, good. Are you in /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/  ?
[04:27] <tonisius> oooh yeha
[04:27] <stianh> crimsun, yes
[04:27] <tonisius> holycow, thanks for the support, resolution now fixed
[04:27] <crimsun> stianh: and is the diff in $HOME ?
[04:28] <stianh> yes
[04:28] <sonare> disasm: good idea - are dependancies listed on the ubu package pages?
[04:28] <crimsun> stianh: ok now, patch -p1 --dry-run < ~/hda_codec.diff
[04:28] <disasm> sonare: apt-cache show <package_name> lists dependencies i believe
[04:28] <crimsun> disasm: apt-cache depends <package>
[04:28] <stianh> crimsun,
[04:29] <stianh> crimsun, that returned: patch: **** strip count l is not a number
[04:29] <holycow> tonisius, welcome to ubuntu dude, kiss rpm hell goodbeye forever
[04:29] <disasm> crimsun: yeah, thats right depends
[04:29] <crimsun> stianh: that's a one, not an el
[04:29] <stianh> oh ah :p
[04:29] <Crackez> wow, i think i found the problem with my Proliant
[04:29] <stianh> yes
[04:29] <Crackez> i think the SCSI card wasn't seated well enough
[04:29] <stianh> crimsun, now exactly what file am I patching?
[04:30] <malv> how long before they update to gaim 2.0?
[04:31] <crimsun> stianh: hda_codec.diff, why?
[04:31] <crimsun> stianh: err, hda_codec.c
[04:31] <dragoon> gaim 2 :O
[04:31] <KarupT> PLEASE HELP, I rebooted in the middle of a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary, how do I fix it?
[04:31] <stianh> crimsun, it asks me for a file
[04:31] <crimsun> KarupT: you just continue
[04:31] <holycow> KarupT, just continue
[04:31] <KarupT> how?
[04:31] <crimsun> stianh: what did you type?
[04:31] <dragoon> why not update to breezy ?
[04:31] <holycow> KarupT, hoary? your a little behind no?
[04:31] <sethk> KarupT, boot a rescue cd and rerun the dist-upgrade
[04:31] <KarupT> I am but you cant go directly from warty to breezy
[04:31] <dragoon> ah
[04:31] <dragoon> i c
[04:32] <holycow> really? say who?
[04:32] <crimsun> you can, but it takes a bit of ... ingenuity.
[04:32] <KarupT> You cant I tried
[04:32] <KarupT> naw
[04:32] <holycow> what happened? libc6 refused to install?
[04:32] <KarupT> its way too much work easier this way
[04:32] <holycow> *nod* just curious
[04:32] <crimsun> no, I promise you can, I did it last week on several machines.
[04:32] <dragoon> there is no gaim 2
[04:32] <tonisius> holycow, but i like RPM... =o
[04:32] <KarupT> Yes there is a Gaim 2 i have it on my Gentoo box
[04:33] <stianh> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/469727
[04:33] <tonisius> this ubuntu uses debian style apt-get, right?
[04:33] <dragoon> why is there no sources on the gaim website ?
[04:33] <holycow> tonisius, :) i like to bug our rpm lovin' friends :)
[04:33] <tonisius> holycow, I'm just testing this to see if my staff should use it.
[04:33] <kuxman> gaim 2.0b was released this weekend
[04:33] <stianh> gaim 2 was released on satureday
[04:33] <crimsun> stianh: sorry, that should be -p0
[04:33] <tonisius> and create an image for them to install on their system
[04:33] <lampshade> !ubotu enlightenment
[04:33] <ubotflu> lampshade: I give up, what is it?
[04:33] <dragoon> ubuntu doesnt even use ff1.5 yet =\
[04:33] <lampshade> mhmmmm
[04:33] <crimsun> dragoon: we do in Dapper.
[04:34] <stianh> crimsun, done
[04:34] <tonisius> dragoon, i was actually thinking about too
[04:34] <dragoon> ah
[04:34] <crimsun> stianh: no errors, correct?
[04:34] <lampshade> Is enlightenment 17 in the repos? or is it 16>
[04:34] <dragoon> very good - seeing ill be using dapper inan hour
[04:34] <crimsun> lampshade: 16 is.
[04:34] <durt> in opera if i download a file with spaces in its name and try to open it, it will try to open each word in the name as if it were a separate file, so i have to save everything without spaces. is there a fix to this annoyance?
[04:34] <stianh> crimsun: to succeeds, nothing else
[04:34] <bimberi> ubotflu: tell lampshade about e17
[04:34] <crimsun> ...why are people dist-upgrading to Dapper just for FF 1.5?
[04:34] <stianh> hehehe
[04:35] <dragoon> who said i was doing it just for ff1.5
[04:35] <Plugh> durt: Put the file name in quotes or put a \ before the spaces in the file name.
[04:35] <crimsun> dragoon: it wasn't directed at you
[04:35] <dragoon> fair call
[04:36] <crimsun> stianh: ok, reexecute the command, but this time omit --dry-run
[04:36] <durt> plugh: i'd do that in a terminal, but it doesnt work when im trying to open something right out of opera
[04:36] <stianh> crimsun, done
[04:36] <kadaj> hello all
[04:37] <kadaj> ubuntu is a bad thing
[04:37] <kadaj> know
[04:37] <JCGCJ> Ubuntu is bad for you
[04:37] <stianh> kadaj, you're wasting your time telling us ubuntu is a bad thing? :O
[04:37] <crimsun> kadaj: anything on-topic?
[04:37] <kadaj> hahahahahahahahaahha
[04:37] <JCGCJ> Because you don't know anything
[04:37] <malv> strange things were happening on my laptop with ubuntu
[04:37] <kadaj> no
[04:37] <kadaj> sorry,just kidding
[04:37] <malv> wireless connection would drop out after a minute of use
[04:37] <JCGCJ> you are an ace cookinggg
[04:38] <malv> ended up reinstalling ubuntu and it fixed it
[04:38] <kadaj> ubuntu,i like but is new version
[04:38] <KarupT> sethk, hey i didnt need a rescue disk i could just booted up and ran apt-get dist-upgrade   to continue and it said
[04:38] <KarupT> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:38] <malv> ubuntu is beginning to feel a bit like windows
[04:38] <JCGCJ> Ok kadaj.
[04:38] <Plugh> Only problem I have with Ubuntu is that it doesn't use a modutils.conf like I'm used to with FC4 so I'm having trouble trying to get my sound card working.
[04:38] <JCGCJ> respectt
[04:38] <crimsun> stianh: ok, now: fakeroot debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r)
[04:38] <sethk> KarupT, good.  sometimes you get lucky
[04:38] <crimsun> Plugh: what card?
[04:38] <kadaj> i like new version
[04:39] <KarupT> crimsun, i think I broke my apt, when i rebooted I cant resume the dist upgrade, says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:39] <JCGCJ> 5.10 ?
[04:39] <Plugh> Soundblaster Vibra 16. An old card which works fine in FC4.
[04:39] <kadaj> where is bob2
[04:39] <crimsun> Plugh: sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[04:39] <sethk> KarupT, mixed versions.
[04:39] <Plugh> Yup. And it always tells me that it didn't find a card.
[04:39] <sethk> KarupT, hopefully.  it could also be a corrupted database, but let's hope not.
[04:39] <disasm> malv: yeah, but the difference is with ubuntu you did something that made it stop working, where with windows it just stops working when it feels like it ;-)
[04:39] <KarupT> sethk ya so how can i finish it, so i can move on to breezy
[04:39] <stianh> crimsun, yay, compiling :)
[04:40] <sethk> KarupT, back to the "boot live cd" method
[04:40] <Plugh> A bunch of lines were needed in modutils.conf which got it working. And some options for the module. One of which is isapnp=0
[04:40] <sethk> KarupT, I said rescue, but that's probably wrong because you need apt-get and company
[04:40] <malv> disasm: nah, i try to use the ubuntu tools as much as possible and avoid manually hacking stuff
[04:40] <KarupT> cause there were lotsa errors when i rebooted when i came into X
[04:40] <stianh> crimsun, seems to have compiled and created a .deb
[04:40] <sethk> KarupT, which wouldn't typically be on a rescue.
[04:40] <malv> disasm: it was just really weird how wireless stopped working correctly all of a sudden
[04:40] <crimsun> Plugh: ok, then you would add that to /etc/modprobe.d/snd-sb16
[04:40] <sethk> KarupT, new X modules were installed
[04:41] <crimsun> Plugh: as in: echo "options snd-sb16 isapnp=0 [the rest of the string] " | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-sb16
[04:41] <KarupT> isnt there a way to undo all the changes that were made by dist-upgrade, and start all over???
[04:41] <Nameeater> ok so i'm working towards installing the nvidia drivers, but the three drivers it says to remove/comment out are not there (nv, vesa, fbdev). Which one do I remove? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5900
[04:41] <Plugh> crimsun: Ah. I tried a different file name in modprobe.d.
[04:41] <crimsun> Plugh: filename is irrelevent, it's the module name following "options" that matters
[04:42] <malv> i guess its the fact that ubuntu, unlike gentoo, has very high level documentation
[04:42] <crimsun> s/irrelevent/irrelevant/
[04:43] <bimberi> Nameeater: it's not in that section, look under 'Section "Device"'
[04:43] <crimsun> stianh: ok, install that deb: sudo dpkg -i ../alsa*deb
[04:43] <Plugh> crimsun: I had tried that by having a file called vibra 16 in the .d directory. It didn't seem to work. Is there something else I need to do for it to recognize the contents of the directory without rebooting?
[04:43] <Nameeater> bimberi: thanks
[04:43] <conner> KarupT,  No way that I know of.
[04:43] <noddaba> how can I find out what package a file belongs to?
[04:44] <crimsun> Plugh: what did you try?
[04:44] <stianh> crimsun, done and I got some new devices
[04:44] <bimberi> Nameeater: np :)
[04:44] <stianh> lets see now
[04:44] <KarupT> crimsun, Do you know how I can fix this?
[04:44] <crimsun> noddaba: dpkg -S, or use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <noddaba> crimsun, thanks
[04:45] <crimsun> KarupT: err, I haven't been following
[04:45] <axisys> !tell about xml reader
[04:45] <KarupT> crimsun, okay can I explain it all in a PM?
[04:45] <axisys> anyone know about a good xml reader?
[04:45] <Plugh> crimsun: The file I created had the options line and alias lines I used in FC4. Then I just ran the modprobe.
[04:46] <crimsun> Plugh: alias lines are unnecessary; only the options line is necessary
[04:47] <stianh> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/469737
[04:47] <crimsun> stianh: ok, and results from amixer and aplay?
[04:47] <KarupT> crimsun, Basicly, I rebooted in the middle of a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary, ya said to use a rescue disk, but I dun have one, but I was able to boot back up the warty/hoary system, but when i try to continue the dist-upgrade apt breaks ::
[04:48] <crimsun> KarupT: eh? I said nothing about a rescue disk
[04:48] <KarupT> oh someone did sorry
[04:48] <Plugh> In FC4 I need a few extra lines such as 'alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss'
[04:48] <Nameeater> do I need the kernel headers or kernel source to install the nvidia drivers?
[04:48] <crimsun> Plugh: that's handled for you. You only need the main driver.
[04:48] <KarupT> crimsun, i didnt use one anyways, but didnt you say to continue the dist-upgrade
[04:49] <crimsun> KarupT: yes
[04:49] <KarupT> crimsun, okay ya want me to pastebin what happens when i try?
[04:49] <stianh> crimsun, amixer -> http://pastebin.com/469740
[04:49] <crimsun> KarupT: sure, but realize that there are others in here who can help
[04:50] <adao> ola algum braisleiro
[04:50] <stianh> crimsun, no sound from aplay
[04:50] <_jason> !ubuntu-br
[04:50] <_jason> oops
[04:50] <_jason> !br
[04:50] <_jason> adao: /j #ubuntu-br
[04:50] <KarupT> crimsun, ya but no one has been responding, ill paste the link so everyone can see
[04:50] <adao> acabei de instalar o kde 3.5 to testando a ferramenta de chat
[04:51] <crimsun> stianh: tail -1 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[04:51] <_jason> adao, no canal #ubuntu-br ha muitos brasileiros, aqui e so ingles
[04:51] <adao> sorry
[04:51] <adao> i understand
[04:51] <stianh> crimsun, 0: Analog Devices AD1986A
[04:51] <KarupT> crimsun, I dunno why but my firefox is being extemely slow now, so its takin a while to get the url
[04:52] <_jason> adao, nao ha problema :)
[04:52] <durt> yeah, firefox is slow
[04:52] <KarupT> durt, it wasnt for me untill thsi crap happened
[04:53] <axisys> !xmlreader
[04:53] <axisys> !tell about xmlreader
[04:54] <Plugh> crimsun: Well, I'll try it again next time I'm in Ubuntu. I renamed the file to snd-sb16 for now anyway.
[04:54] <KarupT> crimsun, okay, firefox doesnt look like its workin nemore can ya come to #log55 ill drop it there
[04:54] <Plugh> Last time I got the sound working in 5.04 using it would hang the machine on boot.
[04:55] <KarupT> crimsun, You gunna come to see the output, or ya want me to PM it??
[04:55] <crimsun> KarupT: I'm kinda busy atm
[04:55] <stianh> crimsun, I played around with the gnome volume controller and set/checked/tuned and stuff, now I have audio
[04:55] <crimsun> stianh: good.
[04:55] <stianh> thanks
[04:55] <crimsun> np
[04:55] <KarupT> *sigh*
[04:55] <stianh> hope this holds after reboot though
[04:55] <KarupT> can someone help me and come to #log55 and look at my broken apt
[04:55] <stianh> If so, I am one happy badger
[04:56] <Eighth> stianh: did you have to mess with alsamixer?
[04:56] <durt> Madpilot: you use opera right? do you know how to open a file that has spaces in its name with an external command? (i.e. "the big thing.doc" with oofice2)
[04:56] <KarupT> Seveas?
[04:57] <stianh> Eighth, no I didn't use alsamixer, I used the gnome mixer, but i guess it controls alsa mixer, since it is very similar, just in gnome
[04:57] <stianh> but
[04:57] <_jason> durt, escape the spaces: the\ big\ thing
[04:58] <crimsun> stianh: it will as long as you issue a reboot from System> Log out
[04:58] <stianh> audio volume is controlled by the "Front" setting, not Headphone
[04:58] <stianh> crimsun, okay
[04:58] <kadaj> hello
[04:58] <crimsun> stianh: you can change that in the Volume Control's Preferences
[04:58] <kadaj> who use thunderbird here
[04:58] <Eighth> stianh: just curious... i just sorta jumped in, but it wouldn't hurt to do a 'alsactl store' as root
[04:58] <stianh> Eighth, what would that do?
[04:59] <Eighth> store your alsa settings so they stay the same at the next boot
[04:59] <crimsun> Eighth: that's done with a normal reboot
[04:59] <stianh> aha
[04:59] <Eighth> crimsun: usually, yeah
[04:59] <Plugh> kadaj: I use thunderbird
[04:59] <MarioC> Hello people
[05:00] <Eighth> i've been on a few systems that didn't do it on reboot
[05:00] <stianh> anyone know how I can get my laptops volume up/down/mute to work on Front channel instead of headphone then?
[05:00] <MarioC> I've upgraded to Dapper, and with this version... when I type my screen flash... any idea?
[05:00] <MarioC> anyone using Dapper?
[05:01] <KarupT> crimsun, ya still busy?? I really need to six this
[05:01] <stianh> ok, I'm going to reboot, for fun and see what happens
[05:01] <KarupT> fix
[05:01] <crimsun> KarupT: I'm not the only person who can help you
[05:01] <stianh> after that it's night night
[05:01] <disasm> stianh: you from pa area? (my friends out west always make fun of me for putting then at the end of a question)
[05:01] <KarupT> crimsun, no one else answers I have asked over and over
[05:01] <stianh> disasm, hehe, I am from norway :P
[05:02] <disasm> ah, way east ;-)
[05:02] <stianh> hehe, yeah :P
[05:02] <disasm> KarupT: whats your issue?
[05:02] <marcin> MarioC: I use Dapper...
[05:03] <MarioC> marcin, do you have problems when typing?
[05:03] <MarioC> marcin.. for me my screens flashes... may be Xorg problem...
[05:03] <KarupT> disasm, crimsun, Basicly, I rebooted in the middle of a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary, but I dun have one, but I was able to boot back up the warty/hoary system, but when i try to continue the dist-upgrade apt breaks ::
[05:04] <KarupT> disasm, disregaurd  "but i don't have one"
[05:04] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, am I looking in the wrong wiki for help? (wiki.ubuntu.org) since, it seems to not to have a good deal of topics included (at least, via the search, is there another means to navigate?)
[05:04] <disasm> KarupT: what package is breaking?
[05:04] <marcin> MarioC: well I don't have any problems when typing
[05:04] <tempest1> does anybody know how to install the JRE for FireFox 1.0.7 (Ubuntu 5.10) ?
[05:04] <MarioC> marcin, nothing weird?
[05:04] <marcin> MarioC: well there is a lot of bugs...
[05:04] <KarupT> disasm, I dunno will ya come to #log55 and look
[05:04] <disasm> tempest1: the easiest way is with java-package
[05:05] <marcin> MarioC: and well almost everything in gnome is weird ;)
[05:05] <Tonglebeak> i'm having a big problem here with firefox...i did a bunch of crap that i don't want to explain, which basically destroyed firefox here. eventually i learned the right way to remove a program is sudo apt-get remove [prgram] , so i did sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox, and then the same except with install
[05:05] <marcin> MarioC: but not - no problems with xorg
[05:05] <theCore> FlannelKing, wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:05] <MarioC> marcin, thanks.. I'll keep searching
[05:05] <Tonglebeak> result: mozilla-firefox doesn't show up in the /etc folder, new profiles can't be created, and i don't know what the hell to do
[05:05] <marcin> MarioC: I only had problems on breezy when trying to install this on laptop with 15,4" lcd and 1280x800 screen
[05:06] <marcin> MarioC: try to take a look at /var/log/Xorg.log
[05:06] <MarioC> marcin, I'm using 15" monitor... may be something related
[05:06] <MarioC> ups... 17"
[05:06] <marcin> MarioC: and maybe you got problems with ati/nvidia/whatever dribver?
[05:07] <eigenlambda> where are package lists?
[05:07] <CaptainMorgan> anybody use Quanta ?
[05:07] <eigenlambda> like packages.debian.org
[05:07] <CaptainMorgan> how do you get rid of the tab dots ?
[05:07] <irvin> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <MarioC> marcin, well I have SiS driver
[05:07] <Eighth> my audio from hd (xmms, gxine) keeps stuttering.. i have dma enabled and i'm not doing any other serious i/o
[05:07] <irvin> eigenlambda, ubuntu has packages.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <eigenlambda> lol... i was trying https
[05:07] <FlannelKing> thanks theCore
[05:07] <Eighth> running breezy on an inspiron 8300
[05:07] <eigenlambda> sorry
[05:08] <marcin> eigenlambda: sudo dpkg -l
[05:08] <theCore> FlannelKing, no prob
[05:08] <tempest1> does anybody know how to install the JRE for FireFox 1.0.7 (Ubuntu 5.10) ?
[05:08] <damian_> hi guys
[05:08] <tempest1> i just tired to install the java-package
[05:08] <tempest1> and that didn't help
[05:08] <frogzoo> !tell tempest1about restricted
[05:08] <damian_> I have a question, how can I print to a printer hooked to my winxp machine?
[05:08] <_jason> tempest1, http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ <- java deb
[05:08] <marcin> MarioC: hmm I had problems with sis graphic card in laptop too - but it was about it's performance
[05:08] <frogzoo> !tell tempest1 about restricted
[05:08] <damian_> I've tried some things but nothing worked
[05:08] <_jason> the bots are broken I believe
[05:08] <theCore> frogzoo: ubotu is dead
[05:09] <marcin> MarioC: it couldn't play dvd movie properly
[05:09] <frogzoo> rip ubotu :(
[05:09] <_jason> seveas, can you bring ubugtu in here please?
[05:09] <MarioC> marcin, I haven't yet tested that... I'm having this flashing-issue
[05:09] <irvin> tempest1, we have instructions here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:09] <kuxman> sethk, from what I've dug up... your suggestions for intelligent routing/cluster support require multiple machines... I'm using only one computer with 3 NICs
[05:09] <marcin> MarioC: well but tell me when you got these "flashes" on console or in graphic mode?
[05:09] <damian_> hello?
[05:10] <polpak> I have a question about sound.. Anyone know of a way to capture the sound output (normally sent to the speakers) in a file?
[05:10] <MarioC> marcin, graphic only...
[05:10] <sethk> kuxman, I know.  Let me see if I can find some docs.
[05:10] <_jason> tempest1, you can use the instructions to build your own, install blackdown java from the repo (instrucitons on restricted page as well), or just use a .deb on that link i gave you
[05:10] <MarioC> marcin, imagine this: I type 'A' and flashes... while I'm writing this is flashing...
[05:10] <polpak> Specifically I'm looking to capture the output of a windows app running in wine (if that helps)
[05:10] <kuxman> sethk, much appreciated
[05:10] <sethk> kuxman, the concept is simlar because you have more than one physical device sharing an IP address
[05:10] <damian_> guys?????
[05:10] <frogzoo> MarioC: gfx chipset & driver?
[05:10] <damian_> I have a question, how can I print to a printer hooked to my winxp machine?
[05:10] <Tonglebeak> does anyone know how i can just wipe out everything firefox-related and do a clean install of it?
[05:11] <damian_> I have a question, how can I print to a printer hooked to my winxp machine?
[05:11] <damian_> I have a question, how can I print to a printer hooked to my winxp machine?
[05:11] <irvin> damian_, yes?
[05:11] <CaptainMorgan> got it..
[05:11] <marcin> MarioC: I can only guess but I think that you got wrong properties for your monitor
[05:11] <frogzoo> damian_: pls dont spam
[05:11] <kuxman> sethk, right, but i'd be more efficient to not have my network cards talking to eachother... that would slow things down
[05:11] <MarioC> frogzoo, sis..?
[05:11] <damian_> sorrt frog but nobody was answering
[05:11] <damian_> sorry
[05:11] <kuxman> sethk, it would be better to have a software solution, that balances the load... round robin style
[05:12] <MarioC> marcin, I'm thinking that too... I'm reading the monitor h/v sync values for setting up
[05:12] <sethk> kuxman, yes, I know, but that way you can only balance connections, not traffic
[05:12] <FlannelKing> tempest1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 - has step by step instructions for Suns JRE
[05:12] <abarbaccia> hello all, can someone explain if i can do this with LVM?
[05:12] <marcin> MarioC: anyway I need to sleep - it's 5am here - but you should read your logs and configs carefully
[05:12] <abarbaccia> If i have a partition that is filling up and the disk is partitioned with LVM, can i add an additional disk that's formatted with LVM to extend the size of the partition?
[05:12] <damian_> still waiting
[05:12] <marcin> MarioC: it should work when everything is set correctly
[05:12] <kuxman> sethk, i see... so I'm currently about to give this thing called balance a whirl (found it on sourceforge)... comments?
[05:13] <MarioC> marcin, I'll try ty
[05:13] <sethk> kuxman, haven't tried it.  let me know what you find.
[05:13] <DShepherd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5901 <-- My yelp wont start. It gives me that error. Any ideas how to fix it?
[05:13] <kuxman> sethk, will do... i'm going to have to disconnect and reconnect to irc from my laptop... since i'm going to be playing with the networking on my desktop... bb in a few
[05:14] <damian_> irvin, any ideas?
[05:15] <FlannelKing> damian_, google says : http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-10.html
[05:15] <merly> i did apt-get install java-whatever... but my firefox still says it needs a plugin... do i have to reboot?
[05:15] <sethk> damian_, set up samba to access win printer
[05:15] <stianh> yay :D
[05:15] <silverton> merly, should just have to restart the browser
[05:16] <irvin> damian_, hope this helps you http://gerona.gov.ph/davidjr/?p=57
[05:16] <damian_> flannel, this article is like chinese to me (without offending anyone)
[05:16] <McScruff> lo, can anyone tell me why i get this error on compileing amarok http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/469749
[05:16] <FlannelKing> damian, I haven't read it.  Google some stuff (Linux Windows Print Sharing) and peruse.  Or check out irvins link.
[05:17] <stianh> anyone know how I can make my laptops volume up/down/mute work for PCM cdontrols instead of Headphone with alsa?
[05:17] <FlannelKing> actually, the fourth google link is one for debian, so it should be good, and consistant with your directory structure
[05:19] <Delvien> i have a MDF file, how do i mount it as a CD??
[05:19] <Kinection> does the ubuntu install ask for root password?
[05:19] <Kinection> because i don't recall setting one, and now i can't su
[05:19] <irvin> Kinection, no
[05:19] <Kinection> how would... i become root then?
[05:19] <force> Kinection: sudo passwd root
[05:19] <Eighth> my audio from hd (xmms, gxine) keeps stuttering.. i have dma enabled and i'm not doing any other serious i/o
[05:19] <irvin> Kinection, use sudo..
[05:19] <Kinection> it's fine to sudo w/o pw?
[05:19] <SirDowny> anyone know if you can install ubuntu off of the live cd?  (and how?)
[05:19] <theCore> Kinection, sudo -s
[05:19] <_jason> Kinection, no don't do that, use sudo
[05:19] <Delvien> Anyone know how to MOUNT a mdf image?
[05:19] <irvin> Kinection, you'll need your user password for sudo
[05:19] <Kinection> alright, thanks... that's odd
[05:20] <irvin> Kinection, not odd... it's a security feature :)
[05:20] <_jason> Kinection, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo <-- explains it all
[05:20] <DShepherd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5901 <-- My yelp wont start. It gives me that error. Any ideas how to fix it?
[05:20] <damian_> irvin, that comment is for printer hooked to ubuntu or to winxp
[05:20] <Eighth> Kinection: you could also 'sudo su'
[05:20] <Nameeater> how can I use png's as icons in gnome? it works just fine in hoary but won't let me click it any more
[05:20] <theCore> DShepherd, reinstall it
[05:21] <irvin> damian_, ubuntu
[05:21] <theCore> Eighth: sudo -s is the equivalent
[05:21] <DShepherd> theCore: I was afraid you would have said that. anyways.. way ahead of you..
[05:21] <sells> I have two drives and one of which it says I do not rights too. how can I go in and change that
[05:21] <holycow> y
[05:21] <SAM_theman> yo people
[05:22] <SAM_theman> have anyone see my site at putfile ?
[05:22] <SAM_theman> if nottake a look
[05:22] <foampeace> hi
[05:22] <SAM_theman> and go to images
[05:22] <SAM_theman> hi
[05:22] <SAM_theman> http://www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[05:22] <foampeace> is there a window manager similar to macosx?
[05:22] <theCore> DShepherd, i suggest to purge it too before reinstalling it
[05:23] <Eighth> my audio from hd (xmms, gxine) keeps stuttering.. i have dma enabled and i'm not doing any other serious i/o.. any ideas?
[05:23] <SAM_theman> yes
[05:23] <SAM_theman> there is go to the site i just put there
[05:23] <SAM_theman> and go to images
[05:23] <tamale> HELLO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN INSTALL UBUNTU OFF THE LIVE CD AT ALL
[05:23] <tamale> HELLO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN INSTALL UBUNTU OFF THE LIVE CD AT ALL
[05:23] <tamale> HELLO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN INSTALL UBUNTU OFF THE LIVE CD AT ALL
[05:23] <DShepherd> theCore: yeah reinstalling didnt work. I goin to try purging
[05:23] <SAM_theman> no
[05:23] <Kinection> i think we got it the first time
[05:23] <SAM_theman> Stop spamming
[05:23] <tamale> SORRY
[05:24] <sethk> tamale, why would you want to?
[05:24] <SirDowny> lol
[05:24] <sethk> tamale, if you want to install, use the install disk
[05:24] <tamale> JUST WONDERING, THAT'S ALL
[05:24] <tamale> OK THANKS
[05:24] <dragoon> cut the caps
[05:24] <sethk> why do people have so much trouble with that concept?
[05:24] <Eighth> s caps lot
[05:24] <Eighth> lock... holy crap, i can't type
[05:24] <kaltherz> Hi !!
[05:24] <nicholaspaul> Hi 11
[05:25] <Kinection> my resolv.conf has 192.168.0.1 set as a nameserver, how do i make it so that it doesn't autmoatically use that?
[05:25] <kuxman> sethk, maybe he's on dial up and doesn't want to download another disk...
[05:25] <Aton> hello
[05:25] <SAM_theman> heres my ubuntu and an opened terminal
[05:25] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/35118201122.png&s=x11
[05:25] <sethk> kuxman, could be
[05:25] <Aton> can some1 please tell me how could i upgrade my java?!?
[05:25] <kuxman> sethk, and he doesn't know that he can get CDs sent to him
[05:25] <SAM_theman> i have 1.5_06
[05:25] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ java -version
[05:25] <SAM_theman> java version "1.5.0_06"
[05:26] <SAM_theman> yeah
[05:26] <Aton> or do i need just to install it again?!?
[05:26] <_jason> Aton, what's your current version of java?
[05:26] <nicholaspaul> Aton do you have it installed? i have a feeling you have to go to Sunn for that..
[05:26] <SAM_theman> java version "1.5.0_06"
[05:26] <merly> silverton - restarted browser, it still says i need a plugin.
[05:26] <merly> :v/
[05:26] <tfs-L1fe|3looD> hello I have a question
[05:26] <dragoon> nice osx theme
[05:26] <SAM_theman> me?
[05:26] <Aton> luka@Luka:~$ java -version
[05:26] <Aton> java version "1.4.2"
[05:27] <silverton> merly, maybe the install didn't finish properly?
[05:27] <kadaj> who use thunderbird here
[05:27] <kaltherz> ...
[05:27] <kadaj> who use thunderbird here
[05:27] <dragoon> sam@hikari:~$ java -version
[05:27] <dragoon> java version "1.4.2"
[05:27] <Aton> i guess so :S
[05:27] <SAM_theman> i DO
[05:27] <SAM_theman> i DO
[05:27] <nicholaspaul> i do kadaj i do
[05:27] <enum> Hi, I am planning to install ubutu..but I know a new version is coming soon. I am wondering if it would be easy to upgrade later or wait until the new realse comes out.
[05:27] <SAM_theman> :D
[05:27] <SAM_theman> whats the problem
[05:27] <DShepherd> theCore: purging doesnt work either'
[05:28] <silverton> enum, it's uber easy to upgrade
[05:28] <nicholaspaul> enum, you can defintely and easily upgrade. I would get Breezy, the most stable version.
[05:28] <bimberi> enum: install now, next version won't be until April
[05:28] <Aton> is there a way to upgrade java or do i have to install again
[05:28] <SAM_theman> help!!
[05:28] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ scorched3d
[05:28] <SAM_theman> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:28] <Aton> and i just installed 3 hours ago
[05:28] <foampeace> whats the kde package?
[05:28] <nicholaspaul> enum, then you wont be frustrated with the new wobbly one and blame Ubuntu for being a POS... :D
[05:28] <Kinection> hello, how do you configure DNS/DHCP in ubuntu? it is incorrectly identifying my router as a DNS server in resolv.conf
[05:28] <bimberi> foampeace: kubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <merly> silverton... i installed java-gcj-compat-dev . is that the same as JRE?
[05:28] <theCore> DShepherd, did you made any recent change in your system that could have break yelp ?
[05:28] <foampeace> bimberi: thanks
[05:28] <kadaj> who use thunderbird here
[05:28] <dragoon> Killer_Smurf, what in your DNS server
[05:28] <bimberi> foampeace: np :)
[05:28] <nicholaspaul> Kinection go System > Admin > Networking
[05:29] <dragoon> err Kinection rather
[05:29] <Eighth> my audio from hd (xmms, gxine) keeps stuttering.. i have dma enabled and i'm not doing any other serious i/o.. any ideas?
[05:29] <nicholaspaul> kadaj i think you already got a show of hands...
[05:29] <paulproteus|lapt> Kinection: Use 128.151.2.1 if you need DNS.
[05:29] <DShepherd> theCore: maybe, maybe not. Its been that way for a while. Would firefox 1.5 break yelp?
[05:29] <FlannelKing> What's the recommended setup for ftps to webserver? have them upload as www-data? or what?
[05:29] <silverton> merly, no...
[05:29] <foampeace> bimberi: installs quite a lot
[05:29] <silverton> merly, I don't even know what that package does dude
[05:29] <merly> silverton,  LOL
[05:29] <enum> Ok..then. One more question is Kubutu as stable as the regular ubuntu?
[05:29] <foampeace> bimberi: have you made your kde loook special?
[05:30] <silverton> merly, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[05:30] <merly> silverton, can you tell i'm a n00b
[05:30] <foampeace> who has made their kde look special?
[05:30] <bimberi> foampeace: yes, it will install a lot of kde apps
[05:30] <Kinection> i have DNS, it's just autodetecting 192.168.0.1 before my actual DNS.
[05:30] <nicholaspaul> enum yup. Just a different desktop
[05:30] <silverton> merly, that will tell you everything dude
[05:30] <nicholaspaul> Kubuntu IS ubuntu enum
[05:30] <SAM_theman> is there a 1.5 version of firefox for ubuntu
[05:30] <foampeace> show me a screenshot of their kde
[05:30] <dragoon> what does edubuntu use for adesktop
[05:30] <kaltherz> bye
[05:30] <bimberi> foampeace: i don't currently have it installed, but it looks pretty good by default :P
[05:30] <foampeace> you kde
[05:30] <Kinection> nicholaspaul: I understand that you can do it thorugh the GUI.. but i was wondering if it was possible to do it through the terminal
[05:30] <bimberi> dragoon: Gnome
[05:30] <SAM_theman> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:30] <SAM_theman> ?
[05:30] <varsendoogle> hey
[05:30] <DShepherd> SAM_theman: not for breezy
[05:30] <silverton> SAM_theman, sounds like your computer hit the end of the track ;D
[05:31] <nicholaspaul> Kinection yes it is, using ifconfig
[05:31] <theCore> SAM_theman,https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:31] <CaptainMorgan> whoa!!!
[05:31] <nicholaspaul> !ifconfig
[05:31] <SAM_theman> i tried that theCore
[05:31] <Kinection> nicholaspaul, ok, thanks.
[05:31] <phosphoricx> hey can anyone help me with wine on amd64 using chroot?
[05:31] <odin> Where are the files gotten by apt-get kept?
[05:31] <nicholaspaul> anytime :)
[05:31] <SAM_theman> all i get is japps languge in it
[05:31] <bimberi> odin: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:31] <foampeace> i think kde should be called something else
[05:32] <_jason> foampeace, what would that be
[05:32] <varsendoogle> can anyone see me?
[05:32] <kylejginavan> hello
[05:32] <kylejginavan> i can
[05:32] <DShepherd> varsendoogle: no
[05:32] <varsendoogle> ok
[05:32] <bimberi> varsendoogle: do :P
[05:32] <bimberi> *no
[05:32] <irvin> odin, it's on /var/cache/apt
[05:32] <varsendoogle> DShepherd, thnakd
[05:32] <_jason> varsendoogle, you are wearing a white shirt, yes i see you
[05:33] <foampeace> _jason: hmmm let me brainstorm for 5 mins
[05:33] <_jason> foampeace, lol ok
[05:33] <Aton> (Reading database ... 80549 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:33] <Aton> Preparing to replace sun-j2re1.5 1.5.0+update06 (using sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb) ...
[05:33] <Aton> Unpacking replacement sun-j2re1.5 ...
[05:33] <Aton> Setting up sun-j2re1.5 (1.5.0+update06) ...
[05:33] <theCore> SAM_theman, japps languge ?
[05:33] <Aton> is this all right?!?
[05:33] <bimberi> Aton: yes, and don't paste in here
[05:33] <_jason> Aton, sure why not?
[05:33] <theCore> Aton, look right to me
[05:33] <SAM_theman> japanesse
[05:33] <Aton> well
[05:33] <dragoon> mm 30 mins till ill be running dapper :)
[05:33] <kylejginavan> can anyone help me get my video card working?
[05:33] <_jason> !anyone
[05:33] <Aton> why the hell do i have my java 1.4 wersion?!?
[05:33] <polpak> I have a question about sound.. Anyone know of a way to capture the sound output (normally sent to the speakers) in a file?
[05:33] <polpak> Specifically I'm looking to capture the output of a windows app running in wine (if that helps)
[05:34] <_jason> Aton, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:34] <foampeace> what does kde stand for?
[05:34] <Linas5> nothing?
[05:34] <varsendoogle> i need some upto date apt-get sources for debian   not ubuntu, unless i could use ubutnu sources.list for a debian machiene?
[05:34] <bimberi> foampeace: K Desktop Environment
[05:34] <aTypical> 'k' desktop environment
[05:34] <varsendoogle> any ideas
[05:34] <theCore> SAM_theman, sure?, i'm reading it, right now
[05:34] <nicholaspaul> Kindly Delete Everything
[05:34] <irvin> foampeace: K Desktop Environment
[05:34] <SAM_theman> take a screen shot of it
[05:34] <SAM_theman> let me believe it
[05:35] <Aton> well thanx to all
[05:35] <bimberi> varsendoogle: #debian (or did you try there?)
[05:35] <nicholaspaul> Knowledge Doesn't Exist
[05:35] <Aton> its working now
[05:35] <theCore> SAM_theman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <<< click that link
[05:35] <Aton> and i love it
[05:35] <varsendoogle> i am running xchat as root and i can't talk in there little chat room
[05:35] <nicholaspaul> Kick Down Existentialism.
[05:35] <theCore> SAM_theman, i even added some command to it
[05:35] <Aton> well see ya
[05:36] <Aton> its hum only 2 hours till i have to wake up nice
[05:36] <LoneWolf071> i'm using KDE, 800x600 and the fnt on everything is still small, anyone knoe how to fix it?
[05:36] <SAM_theman> yeah been here
[05:36] <SAM_theman> still get same sh*t
[05:36] <polpak> anyone?
[05:36] <SAM_theman> i'll try it again
[05:36] <Aton> im using 1024x768
[05:36] <Aton> and its still abit small
[05:36] <LoneWolf071> well i'm using a slow computer...
[05:36] <foampeace> howbout GBD GearBoxDesktopEnvironment
[05:36] <LoneWolf071> so 1024x768 slows it down
[05:36] <Aton> but too big on 800x600
[05:37] <foampeace> or gnobgobblerDE
[05:37] <phosphoricx> anybody using picasa via 32-bit chroot?
[05:37] <foampeace> how bout surreal Desktop ENvironment
[05:37] <nicholaspaul> foampeace, you used surreal?
[05:37] <foampeace> Surreal Desktop Environment
[05:38] <kylejginavan> my resoluiton is stuck at 640x480 because i can't get my video card to work... can someone give me a hand?
[05:38] <foampeace> nicholaspaul: whats surreal?
[05:38] <eobanb> sure, kylejginavan
[05:38] <tfs-L1fe|3looD> does anyone know the default root acct password?
[05:38] <eobanb> !root
[05:38] <LoneWolf071> i cannot read the font, iut's too small and squigly
[05:38] <irvin> tfs-L1fe|3looD: there is none
[05:38] <nicholaspaul> foampeace, no idea. you brought it up!!
[05:38] <eobanb> !sudo
[05:38] <irvin> tfs-L1fe|3looD: use sudo
[05:38] <eobanb> wtf happened to ubotu
[05:38] <shadeofgrey> hi guys
[05:39] <tfs-L1fe|3looD> so for the username, just use....sudo?
[05:39] <nicholaspaul> foampeace, but i'm always looking for other desktop to try.
[05:39] <tfs-L1fe|3looD> or root
[05:39] <nicholaspaul> hi shadeofgrey
[05:39] <_jason> tfs-L1fe|3looD,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo <-- explains it all
[05:39] <irvin> tfs-L1fe|3looD: yes
[05:39] <FlannelKing> sudo isnt the username
[05:39] <tfs-L1fe|3looD> thanks a bunch
[05:39] <rosen> anyone have experience using nexuiz on an ubuntu box ?
[05:39] <irvin> rosen: i have
[05:39] <varsendoogle> tfs-L1fe|3looD, for eas or use we use sudo before commands instead of switching to super user
[05:39] <shadeofgrey> hi nicho
[05:40] <shadeofgrey> hey
[05:40] <shadeofgrey> everybody
[05:40] <shadeofgrey> shade needs help
[05:40] <aTypical> Hello
[05:40] <kylejginavan> eoband, did you get my chat offer
[05:40] <Amaranth> !ask
[05:40] <shadeofgrey> i desperately want to install sunbird .03 on my ubuntu machine
[05:40] <dabaR> Hey everyone! Im on the Internet!!!1
[05:40] <shadeofgrey> this one
[05:40] <nicholaspaul> not jsut ease of use either. Using root and playing around can really mess things up good. Its imperitive you use sudo
[05:40] <Amaranth> ubotu died again :/
[05:40] <nicholaspaul> oh dabaR congratulations
[05:40] <_jason> bimberi, are you on crack?
[05:40] <varsendoogle> tfs-L1fe|3looD, then you can use your owm password
[05:40] <bimberi> _jason: :P
[05:41] <varsendoogle> shadeofgrey, i had one of the sunbirds installed
[05:41] <rosen> irvin, when I play it, it is very choppy in graphics.. like lag but clientside... I've tried shutting down all programs and running at 800x600 16bit *YUCK* ... also the choppiness seem to be sort of periodical
[05:41] <rosen> irvin, any idea what could be the cause of this ?
[05:41] <simonvallore> Hello guys is there a shell managment system i can use for ubuntu to setup shells for people ?
[05:41] <irvin> rosen: it's your connection to the game server... can you find a closer mirror?
[05:41] <theCore> SAM_theman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i5902
[05:41] <jbroome> simonvallore: yeah, bash. :)
[05:41] <polpak> so no one here knows how to configure sound in this manner??
[05:41] <rosen> irvin, it's the same when I play singleplayer with bots
[05:41] <simonvallore> jbroome,  ?
[05:41] <bimberi> Amaranth: yep, was replaced by ubotflu which isn't working very well either
[05:41] <shadeofgrey> varsendoogle:  how?
[05:42] <abarbaccia> has anybody here used ubuntu's partitioner to actually format a drive with LVM?
[05:42] <RedRose> ok, so i'm now lonewolf071... my screen res is at 800x600 and 75Hz and the font is toooo small, why?
[05:42] <jbroome> simonvallore: the commandline
[05:42] <dabaR> simonvallore: tell us more.
[05:42] <adam__> can u use photoshop on here
[05:42] <simonvallore> jbroome, im affraid th ey will have access to other files it i  just add a user
[05:42] <varsendoogle> not sur if it was .03 just go to mozilla.firefox.blah and you should be able to find the extinsion called calender
[05:42] <SAM_theman> this better be good
[05:42] <rosen> irvin, I think it may be my graphics somehow but being new to linux I have no idea how to test it or config
[05:42] <nicholaspaul> polpak, sorry no. i've messed around  withtthe audio on my system, but found it really confusing. Mine just works ootb i'm afraid
[05:42] <nicholaspaul> adam__,  you can use Gimp
[05:42] <bimberi> _jason: isn't that supposed to be ritalin? :)
[05:42] <varsendoogle> there is calender and there is sunbird and sunkbird is just stand alone
[05:42] <varsendoogle> jsut a sec
[05:42] <irvin> rosen: glxgears
[05:42] <kylejginavan> eoband, u there?
[05:42] <SAM_theman> Core can i pm you?
[05:42] <_jason> bimberi, lol I think he does both
[05:42] <Nameeater> rosen: do you have a gfx card?
[05:42] <JonasNorman> polpak: what were you trying to do?
[05:42] <SAM_theman> i do
[05:42] <simonvallore> dabaR, i wanna be able to give people shell to login to where i can block them from folders ooutside there directory
[05:43] <dabaR> simonvallore: if you disallow access to the files for people, it will work.
[05:43] <SAM_theman> nvidia geforce 4 MX 4000
[05:43] <rosen> I use a nvidia fx5200 with 256mb ram so it should be able to do better than this
[05:43] <simonvallore> dabaR, how do i do that ?
[05:43] <dabaR> simonvallore: read access, write access or execute access?
[05:43] <adam__> is there any ttorials for gimp
[05:43] <rosen> !glxgears
[05:43] <adam__> tutorials
[05:43] <_jason> adam__, the official gimp site has lots
[05:43] <varsendoogle> shadeofgrey, which do you want the stand alone or the extension?
[05:43] <dabaR> simonvallore: do you want them to not see only your files?
[05:43] <adam__> thanks
[05:43] <Nameeater> rosen: install the nvidia drivers :)
[05:43] <rosen> Nameeater, I did
[05:43] <simonvallore> dabaR, yeas
[05:43] <shadeofgrey> varsendoogle: id kinda like the standalone
[05:43] <SAM_theman> !glxgears
[05:44] <simonvallore> dabaR, and my mounted drive
[05:44] <nicholaspaul> i just discovered 3d Desktops... woohoo!!!
[05:44] <varsendoogle> shadeofgrey, ok
[05:44] <Nameeater> rosen: then i'm lost :)
[05:44] <rosen> Nameeater, heh like me
[05:44] <SAM_theman> woow
[05:44] <shadeofgrey> varsendoogle:  but i realize this complicates things immmensely
[05:44] <SAM_theman> i know about  3ddesktop sinse Fedora
[05:44] <dabaR> simonvallore: your files being your folder?
[05:44] <silverton> I can't get the nvidia legacy drivers working :(
[05:44] <Nameeater> yup
[05:44] <kylejginavan> my resolution is stuck at 640x480 until i can get my geforce2 video card working...
[05:45] <shadeofgrey> what the hell is a 3d desktop?
[05:45] <SAM_theman> 3samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ 3ddesk
[05:45] <SAM_theman> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[05:45] <SAM_theman> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[05:45] <simonvallore> dabaR, being the mnt folder ect ect
[05:45] <varsendoogle> have you tried the embedded one?
[05:45] <kylejginavan> could somene please help me out here
[05:45] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey, its a 3D switcher for using difft desktops. Get it from the repos and try it out :)
[05:45] <kuxman> are 3d desktops really worthwhile?
[05:45] <SAM_theman> "sudo apt-get install 3ddesk"
[05:45] <simonvallore> dabaR, i have a shell that when i log into it i cant see anything but my fake root persay
[05:45] <kuxman> and/or stable?
[05:45] <SAM_theman> nah
[05:45] <nicholaspaul> kuxman, not really, but fun!!
[05:45] <rosen> shadeofgrey, it's eyecandy ... pretty but very performance dependant
[05:45] <shadeofgrey> varsendoogle:  whats the embedded one?
[05:45] <SAM_theman> its just a 3d desktop viwer
[05:45] <nicholaspaul> i likes candy
[05:46] <varsendoogle> shadeofgrey, my connection is slow right now i am running xchat as root so i bet i am being attacked
[05:46] <interspec> hi
[05:46] <kuxman> meh, I'll stick with my KISS desktop
[05:46] <SAM_theman> cp bookmarks.html cert8.db cookies.txt formhistory.dat key3.db signons.txt history.dat  mimeTypes.rdf ~/Desktop/ffsettings
[05:46] <SAM_theman> ?
[05:46] <varsendoogle> shadeofgrey, it runs insied firefox as onother instance of firefox, it is just like sunbird but you might have some probelms with the user accounts
[05:47] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/469765
[05:47] <polpak> JonasNorman, I'm trying to capture the audio output from a wine app to a file
[05:47] <SAM_theman> look
[05:47] <phosphoricx> I'm trying to get picasa working under wine
[05:47] <mitchstarr> Can somebody help me with my cd burner?
[05:48] <Linas5> so...
[05:48] <mitchstarr> hello?
[05:48] <Linas5> what irc client ought i use?
[05:48] <shadeofgrey> okay i installed the 3d desktop stuff
[05:48] <shadeofgrey> now how do i activate it
[05:48] <kylejginavan> i'm a new linux user.. can someone give me a hand with my video card
[05:48] <shadeofgrey> it didnt add anything to my menus
[05:48] <factotum> Linas5: Dont know, but i prefer irssi
[05:48] <shadeofgrey> kylejginavan:  nvidia?
[05:48] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey, type 3ddeskd at a terminal
[05:48] <kylejginavan> yes
[05:49] <kylejginavan> geforce2
[05:49] <kylejginavan> mx 440
[05:49] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey, then 3ddesk to activate it each time you want to switch.
[05:49] <shadeofgrey> kyncani: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:49] <polpak> JonasNorman, any ideas???
[05:49] <kylejginavan> ok, the wiki said for me to get the nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:49] <kylejginavan> however it didn't exist
[05:49] <mitchstarr> I need help with burning debian to a cd.  I right click on desktop on the iso then click burn to cd,  it says i need to put an empty cd in the drive and i allready have one in there?   aNY BODY can HELP?
[05:49] <shadeofgrey> oh
[05:49] <nicholaspaul> i think 3d looks great with my Jacob Two Two background!! !
[05:49] <JonasNorman> polpak: i haven't had success recording sounds with my personal box
[05:49] <shadeofgrey> well then get that
[05:50] <polpak> JonasNorman, ok thx anyway
[05:50] <nicholaspaul> mitchstarr, are you using Gnomebaker? k3b ?
[05:50] <mitchstarr> What are those nicholaspaul?   It dosent say what program its using to burn the cd...
[05:50] <kylejginavan> right, the package manager doesn't have it
[05:51] <dabaR> simonvallore: files have three sets of permissions. For the user, for the group the files are assigned to, and for other users of the system. To change permissions to the files, you use chmod. "man chmod" in a terminal can tell you how to use the command. http://zernike.uwinnipeg.ca/~s_liao/Courses/2941/Week05.pdf to learn a bit about files from my prof.'s notes. You can disallow write read and execute access to all dirs you do not want t
[05:51] <nicholaspaul> mitchstarr, then I would recommend getting Gnomebaker from Synaptic. Or K3B
[05:51] <SAM_theman> DAMMit
[05:51] <SAM_theman> see told you
[05:51] <SAM_theman> gives me a wierd languge
[05:51] <mitchstarr> loading it up right at this moment nicholaspaul
[05:52] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/35122514626.png&s=x11
[05:52] <simonvallore> dabaR, i know that much but theres got to be a easier way
[05:52] <SAM_theman> LOok!@
[05:52] <Nameeater> do i need anything to read/mount my ntfs partition? breezy automatically added it to fstab but i cannot open it, i tried the script from the wiki and that didn't work either as its already in the fstab file
[05:53] <sethk> Nameeater, if you can see it as root (with sudo), you probably need uid= and gid= options on the mount point
[05:53] <dabaR> Nameeater: change "defaults" to "defaults,umask=0222" and then "sudo umount /dev/X" where X is the dev for the ntfs, and then "sudo mount -s"
[05:54] <silverton> SAM_theman, I like, show me how you did that
[05:55] <SAM_theman> what?
[05:55] <SAM_theman> i am pissed off
[05:55] <silverton> the screeshot you linked
[05:55] <SAM_theman> i got crazy languge on firefox 1.5
[05:55] <SAM_theman> yeah i know
[05:55] <Nameeater> dabaR: hmm didn't work
[05:55] <JonasNorman> polpak: hey
[05:55] <dabaR> Nameeater: which part?
[05:55] <SAM_theman> http://www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[05:55] <SAM_theman> enjoy
[05:55] <JonasNorman> polpak: i had success recording sounds from my card
[05:55] <Nameeater> hasn't reappeared after mount -s
[05:55] <Nameeater> with sudo
[05:55] <JonasNorman> polpak: i didn't use wine though
[05:56] <silverton> oh lol!
[05:56] <dabaR> mount -a sorry, typo up there.
[05:56] <silverton> I didn't even notice the language _in_ firefox
[05:56] <ep|phany> hi i have a wireless network set-up and whenever i try to watch a movie that is on my network it pauses to buffer in totem like every 30 seconds anyone have any suggestions?
[05:57] <polpak> JonasNorman, oh?
[05:57] <silverton> ep|phany, streaming over wireless isn't exactly the best practice...
[05:57] <Nameeater> dabaR: awsome! thanks :)
[05:57] <dabaR> $20
[05:57] <ep|phany> its just in a house though
[05:57] <JonasNorman> polpak: want to try?
[05:57] <polpak> JonasNorman, well wine is just using the alsa driver, so it should still work
[05:57] <polpak> JonasNorman, sure
[05:57] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, anyone know how to format a hard-drive? Sorry, I'm new to Linux.
[05:57] <silverton> ep|phany, doesn't matter :P
[05:57] <ep|phany> so im basically stuck?
[05:58] <Nameeater> I think I may have 20c, will that cover it? :
[05:58] <JonasNorman> polpak: i used ESD but who knows
[05:58] <Uzaiyaro> I suppose you are all familiar with ubuntu
[05:58] <Uzaiyaro> correct?
[05:58] <linkd> yes
[05:58] <todd> Hmmm... having trouble setting up the wireless on a Dell D600 Laptop with Ubuntu... any ideas??
[05:59] <Uzaiyaro> tbh, i am kind of a windows nut and im ona live session
[05:59] <nicholaspaul> most Uzaiyaro !
[05:59] <tempest1> I start FireFox but it never opens, any clues? v 1.0.7 ?
[05:59] <Uzaiyaro> how do I change the screen resolution?
[05:59] <tempest1> System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolutino
[05:59] <nicholaspaul> Uzaiyaro, System>PRefs>Screen Resolution
[05:59] <nicholaspaul> beat me to it...!
[05:59] <tempest1> lol
[06:00] <Uzaiyaro> the highest there is is 1024.768
[06:00] <Uzaiyaro> i want 1280x1024
[06:00] <SAM_theman> have you tampered with firefox temp??
[06:00] <rosen> ah .. the choppiness in Nexuiz is a known bug and will be fixed in the next release... untill then I guess I'm gunshy :(
[06:00] <nicholaspaul> If you run the x-server again, Uzaiyaro , you can add resolutions
[06:00] <durt> nexuiz is choppy?
[06:00] <Uzaiyaro> x-server?
[06:00] <tempest1> SAM_theman, nope
[06:00] <tempest1> just restarted my computer
[06:01] <rosen> durt, very very choppy, but it's clientside
[06:01] <nicholaspaul> Uzaiyaro, ... let me find the command.
[06:01] <Uzaiyaro> k
[06:01] <Uzaiyaro> also cna i play .wma files?
[06:01] <tempest1> SAM_theman, it was a hard reboot because FireFox used up all of my system resources
[06:01] <Uzaiyaro> can*
[06:01] <Uzaiyaro> 
[06:01] <cge> How can I get the la_IT locale generated in dapper? dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't seem to work the same way as for debian.
[06:02] <nicholaspaul> Uzaiyaro,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:02] <sklav> what is flight??
[06:02] <Uzaiyaro> k...
[06:02] <Uzaiyaro> brb
[06:02] <sklav> i read on linuxtoday that ubuntu released flight cd
[06:02] <nicholaspaul> Uzaiyaro, when you get ot the list of resolutions you want, hit space bar beside each one to add it.
[06:03] <sklav> call me dumb but i thought 5.10 breazy was the latest
[06:03] <AMCDeathKnight> How can I add a Dock like MAC has to GNome? Im trying to get it to look like MAC
[06:03] <sklav> is flight the equivalent of rawhide on redhat?
[06:03] <dabaR> Uzaiyaro: also, visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto if that does not fix the resolution. Also, for wma, you need w32codecs. Visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormatsHowto
[06:03] <dabaR> You are dumb
[06:03] <dabaR> heh, no, just joking, cause you said to say it.
[06:03] <malv> have many people received corrupted cds from the shipit service?
[06:03] <sklav> that is what i said
[06:03] <sklav> hehe
[06:04] <nicholaspaul> AMCDeathKnight, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12097
[06:04] <jenco> yay got my ati card somewhat working ;p
[06:04] <dabaR> malv: I doubt that highly.
[06:04] <durt> AMCDeathKnight: gdesklets
[06:04] <AMCDeathKnight> I have Gnome
[06:04] <jenco> i have one question tho
[06:04] <AMCDeathKnight> Do I need to get KDE to make it look like MAC? :-(
[06:05] <nicholaspaul> AMCDeathKnight,  if that doesnt work, try www.apple.com They have a great OS that looks alot like a Mac
[06:05] <malv> dabaR: I actually received two separate shipments for Hoary a while back and both contained many corrupted disks
[06:05] <jenco> jpw do i translate the pci address to the format xorg wants?
[06:05] <jenco> jow*
[06:05] <jenco> how**
[06:05] <durt> AMCDeathKnight: gdesklets has some stuff that'll make it look fancy
[06:05] <nicholaspaul> malv - are you sure you ordered discs? Perhaps they were coasters.
[06:05] <jenco> 0000:01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]  (rev 01)
[06:05] <jenco>  is the pci address
[06:05] <sklav> i ordered 50 coasters a while back
[06:05] <AMCDeathKnight> ok getting gdesklets
[06:06] <AMCDeathKnight> KoolDock  isnt in Apt :-(
[06:06] <malv> nicholaspaul: well they had data on them, but the installer would report corruptions
[06:06] <nicholaspaul> AMCDeathKnight,  oh and theres an OSX icon set too. I cant remember where i downloaded it from tho, i think it was gnome.org
[06:06] <nicholaspaul> malv.. oh i see.
[06:06] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[06:06] <AMCDeathKnight> Im trying to getthe Doc working first
[06:06] <durt> gnome-look.org
[06:06] <AMCDeathKnight> I have Windows looking like MAC
[06:06] <nicholaspaul> durt dats da one!!!
[06:07] <tritium> AMCDeathKnight: gdesklets are in the repos...
[06:07] <malv> oh well, hopefully I wont be unlucky again with the new request =)
[06:07] <AMCDeathKnight> I know I am getting gdesklets
[06:07] <SweetestSavage> Hi, is anyone here? I have a major problem..
[06:07] <_jason> SweetestSavage, ask
[06:07] <AMCDeathKnight> Its KoolDock im after
[06:07] <SweetestSavage> I cannot currently open anything, because it says.. Details: Failed to change directory
[06:07] <AMCDeathKnight> for Gnome
[06:07] <chtamina> Hi guys, I installed fluxbox but when I enter in fluxbox I can't see anything: it's empty
[06:08] <SweetestSavage> And, I'm not sure how to get anything to work now >.O
[06:08] <chtamina> the desktop it's empty
[06:08] <nicholaspaul> Where can i post files to share, like desktops and temporary crap?
[06:08] <chtamina> I tried rightclick but I got just konsolle e log out option
[06:08] <SweetestSavage> Actually, I'll be right back
[06:08] <durt> AMCDeathKnight: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=210
[06:09] <chtamina> It's important because I'm looking for a the lightest wmanager
[06:09] <chtamina> do you know any ?
[06:10] <durt> chtamina: fluxbox, fvwm
[06:10] <chtamina> durt,  what about that problem with fluxbox ?
[06:10] <nicholaspaul> oh i love Fluxbox. Amazing
[06:10] <tritium> xfce too, chtamina
[06:10] <varsendagger> can i run an iso of a live cd as the live cd?  and if so how?
[06:10] <nicholaspaul> fluxbox is really slick, IMHO
[06:10] <varsendagger> what problem with fluxbox, no problems
[06:10] <varsendagger> IMHO wtf?
[06:11] <chtamina> varsendagger,  I started fluxbox but it's empty. I can't see any applications
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> In My Humble Opinion
[06:11] <chtamina> even rightclicking everywhere
[06:11] <varsendagger> chtamina, right click
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> or I Must Have Oranges
[06:11] <varsendagger> now what do you see
[06:11] <chtamina> rightclick where ? i just have log off options and konsolle
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> chtamina, or hit F12 in PPC
[06:11] <chtamina> I'm not yousing fluxbox right now
[06:12] <chtamina> FL2 in PPC ? what does this mean ?
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> chtamina, right click ont he desktop. you also need to install the menu
[06:12] <dabaR> IM Hurting Overhere
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> PPC _ PowerPC, the Mac processor.
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> lol dabaR
[06:12] <tritium> chtamina: F12, not FL2
[06:12] <varsendagger> open console and edit your .fluxbox/menu to change what you want in your menu
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> exactly tritium
[06:12] <tempest1> anybody have any ideas why FireFox might be crashing?
[06:12] <Kinection> is firefox 1.5 available for ubuntu w/o compile?
[06:12] <tempest1> I just installed the JRE plugins
[06:12] <chtamina> nicholaspaul,  I would like to install the menu in fluxbox: how can I do ?
[06:13] <varsendagger> chtamina, that was for you
[06:13] <dcj> hi, i have a question, how do i play mp3s with ubuntu 5.10?
[06:13] <chtamina> varsendagger,  thanks
[06:13] <chtamina> I'm going to try
[06:13] <dcj> Kinection, how did you install the JRE plugins?
[06:13] <varsendagger> i'// send you mine
[06:13] <chtamina> .fluxbox/menu
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> chtamina, first
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/fluxbo...nerate_menu.in
[06:13] <SAM_theman> i am back
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> chtamina, you need that file in that link.
[06:13] <chtamina> varsendagger,  send me yours in email
[06:14] <Kinection> dcj, ? for what? for firefox?
[06:14] <chtamina> (sorry for my english)
[06:14] <chtamina> thanks nicholaspaul  gonna get it
[06:14] <dcj> Kinection, yea... is that what you just said?
[06:14] <nicholaspaul> chtamina, to install it type = sudo install -m755 fluxbox-generate_menu.in /usr/local/bin/fluxbox-generate_menu
[06:14] <SAM_theman> :D
[06:14] <Kinection> dcj: no... i was asking about 1.5 firefox
[06:14] <Killer_Smurf> hello all.  I have an interesting issue.  I have an acer lappy running breezy.  when I did the install I had 2x256 RAM.  Yesterday I changed to 2x512 RAM and could not boot up.  Tried 1 256 and 1 512 and no go.  tried 1 512 and no problems.  How can I add Ram without reinstalling or is it possible?
[06:14] <dcj> Kinection,  i'm having the hardest time installing a java runtime environment w/ ubuntu
[06:14] <chtamina> thanks
[06:14] <nicholaspaul> anytime!
[06:15] <_jason> dcj, http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ <-- java debs
[06:15] <dragoon> or apt-get install kaffe
[06:15] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, I have a question. I installed a game called StepMania (for Linux), and I'm wondering how I run it?
[06:15] <tritium> Killer_Smurf: you don't have to do anything when adding ram.
[06:15] <dcj> _jason, thanks I'll try that
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try the README
[06:15] <SweetestSavage> Yeah, I did look there.
[06:16] <Kinection> dcj: did you try installing what's at java.sun.com?
[06:16] <SAM_theman> who was the guys i was just talking to
[06:16] <SweetestSavage> I tried going into the terminal and typing ./stepmania (the executable), but it said there's a missing library of some sort.
[06:16] <SAM_theman> and siad i was restarting X ?
[06:16] <dragoon> what library
[06:16] <Killer_Smurf> tritium then   way does it not boot if I do?
[06:16] <SweetestSavage> libvorbisfile.so.3
[06:16] <dragoon> apt-get install libvorbis
[06:16] <tritium> Killer_Smurf: perhaps you installed the ram incorrectly.  It is not a linux issue.
[06:17] <dcj> Kinection, which file would i install from java.sun.com
[06:17] <SweetestSavage> It said it couldn't find the package
[06:17] <dcj> _jason, do i have to download and install ALL of those Java files?
[06:17] <_jason> dcj, no
[06:17] <dcj> _jason,  I'm not sure which file you're pointing me to
[06:17] <_jason> dcj, you probably just want http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[06:17] <Kinection> dcj: the JRE for linux
[06:17] <shree> hi
[06:17] <Kinection> https://jsecom16c.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=F3121AE7951143E31672FAFF28FD2983
[06:18] <Killer_Smurf> tritium 3 different sticks of 512.  1 stick alone works because the amount of mem does not change but if I change the amount it will not boot
[06:18] <Kinection> dcj: linux platform, self extracting is fine
[06:18] <tritium> Killer_Smurf: still, not a linux or ubuntu issue
[06:18] <shree> i need help to configure Canon LBP 1120 printer in ubuntu os
[06:18] <angryBeaver> Hi, when downloading software, should I get Fedora or SUSE installer?
[06:18] <dcj> _jason, thanks.... I'll run "apt-get sudo install (that file)" in the terminal correct?
[06:19] <angryBeaver> or neither
[06:19] <dcj> Kinection, i've tried that, with no success for some reason
[06:19] <_jason> dcj, nope, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file
[06:19] <tritium> dcj: wrong order...sudo apt-get install <package name>
[06:19] <Kinection> dcj, what went wrong?
[06:19] <Killer_Smurf> tritium k... thought it might be a lappy linux issue.... just checking
[06:19] <dcj> _jas... thanks...
[06:19] <tritium> angryBeaver: neither
[06:19] <pu> when will the next version of ubuntu be released?
[06:19] <tempest1> can anybody link me directly to a dpkg of opera?
[06:19] <tempest1> my internet browser won't start
[06:19] <tritium> pu: June
[06:19] <_jason> pu, april
[06:19] <dcj> Kinection,  firefox won't recognize it as an extension
[06:20] <dabaR> tritium: :)
[06:20] <Kinection> dcj: did you try checking about:plugins ?
[06:20] <angryBeaver> tritium, so I'm SOL?
[06:20] <tritium> yeah, April ;)
[06:20] <pu> ubuntu pros in here.
[06:20] <tempest1> anyone?
[06:20] <tritium> angryBeaver: why would you be?
[06:20] <_jason> tritium, you had me counting months on my fingers :)
[06:20] <tritium> sorry, my bad ;)
[06:20] <angryBeaver> I'm on ubuntu and this program only has a SUSE linux or Fedora installer
[06:20] <angryBeaver> it's Jahshaka
[06:21] <tempest1> angryBeaver, try Fedora's installer with alien
[06:21] <tritium> angryBeaver: if you _must_, use alien
[06:21] <Kinection> dcj,  does about:plugins in firefox show java?
[06:21] <angryBeaver> where can I get alien
[06:21] <tritium> angryBeaver: sudo apt-get install alien
[06:21] <SweetestSavage> What is the command to run a program in terminal?
[06:22] <Dr_Fie> how do i write lilo to the partition (not mbr) after i have installed linux?
[06:22] <tritium> SweetestSavage: depends on the program ;)
[06:22] <SweetestSavage> I tried ./stepmania, but it keeps telling me it cannot load the shared library (libvorbisfile3), saying that it isn't found.. but it's already installed
[06:22] <JonasNorman> tempest: would you apt-get it?
[06:22] <angryBeaver> thanks tritium
[06:22] <JonasNorman> tempest1: i have it in my sources list
[06:22] <KD-Misafir880> slm
[06:22] <JonasNorman> tempest1: oh i realized my message before that didn't go to you
[06:23] <dcj> Kinection, no it doesn't
[06:23] <dcj> Kinection,  what do you mean "about plugins?"
[06:23] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> WHERE Are you FROM
[06:24] <Kinection> dcj,  you type about:plugins as url in firefox
[06:25] <tritium> AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI: please stay on topic
[06:25] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> anlamad0131m karde015f
[06:25] <dcj> Kinection,  it just has shockwave flash and totem mozilla plugins
[06:25] <shree> hi can i any one help to configure Canon LBP 1120 laster printer in ubuntu
[06:26] <basheer> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY WIFI ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[06:26] <pu> i am having trouble setting up wifi too basheer :(
[06:26] <tritium> basheer: please don't yell.  Ask nicely, and you're more likely to get help.
[06:27] <basheer> I am sorry I had my caps on
[06:27] <JonasNorman> tempest1: http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/etch/non-free/binary-i386/opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[06:27] <_peter_> hello, peter here.  has anyone had an issue with compiling source code after a fresh install? I am getting this error when i run any configure:
[06:27] <_peter_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:27] <basheer> but I really need some help so I can move my computer
[06:27] <tritium> _peter_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:27] <AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI> turk varm0131 aran0131zda
[06:28] <chtamina> I download the FluxBox configuration utility, but I don't know hot to use it
[06:28] <JonasNorman> tempest1: thats what the repository i got from Automatrix would have pointed me to
[06:28] <FlannelKing> whats the path to perl?
[06:28] <dabaR> chtamina: have you heard of openbox? I find it is easier to use.
[06:28] <_peter_> thank you tritium. I am officially a complete moron :)
[06:28] <_jason> FlannelKing, type 'which perl'
[06:28] <FlannelKing> thankee
[06:28] <chtamina> dabaR,  I'm gonna try it =)
[06:28] <chtamina> thanks
[06:29] <tritium> _peter_: not at all, it's just that the decision was made to not include standard build tools by default
[06:29] <chtamina> I'm looking for the lightest wmanager ever
[06:29] <_peter_> ah
[06:29] <basheer> can anyone help me?
[06:29] <_jason> basheer, we can try if you ask a question
[06:29] <basheer> ok
[06:29] <sklav> chtamina, try owl
[06:29] <pu> can somebody the simplest method of setting up my wireless connection? i've already installed the drivers with ndiswrapper.
[06:30] <sklav> its ugly thought
[06:30] <basheer> I have a d-link  network adapter
[06:30] <corey7> how do i register my nick in this channel
[06:30] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, I'm trying to install my video drivers and it's telling me that I have an X Server running. How do I close it, and what is it?
[06:30] <dragoon> yay - installing dapper now
[06:30] <basheer> when I go to networking and hit properties it freezes
[06:30] <dabaR> chtamina: visit http://www.ubuntuforums.org, and search for "openbox stormy" and view the post on openbox fast and lightweight in gnome, and the other post by stormy eyes, he has cool how tos.
[06:30] <tritium> SweetestSavage: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:31] <basheer> my card is recognized thankfully
[06:31] <_jason> corey7, /msg nickserv help register
[06:31] <chtamina> thanks dabaR
[06:31] <dabaR> $20
[06:31] <basheer> can someone help me get through this?
[06:31] <chtamina> sklav,  owl doesn't look like a wmanager to me
[06:31] <basheer> I was told I would not need ndiswrapper for an atheos  card
[06:31] <sklav> u said minimal
[06:31] <sklav> fwwm
[06:31] <Kinection> dcj: sorry dcj, this is my first time on ubuntu actually, i'm on a fresh install and i'm going to check it out
[06:32] <pu> once you've configured your wireless adapter with ndiswrapper, how do you connect to the network?
[06:32] <sklav> is minimal
[06:32] <sklav> windowmaker is minimal
[06:32] <chtamina> I mean I can't find in synaptic
[06:32] <sklav> blackbox is minimal
[06:32] <chtamina> is it called owl ?
[06:32] <chtamina> I'm looking for it =)
[06:32] <sklav> if memory servers correctly yes
[06:32] <sklav> try blackbox
[06:32] <dabaR> openbox works as soon as you open the box.
[06:32] <sklav> or fluxbox
[06:32] <fishfillet> or fluxbox
[06:32] <dabaR> or fluxbox even
[06:33] <Crackez> twm is the best
[06:33] <sklav> hehe
[06:33] <phosphoricx> twm, nice
[06:33] <sklav> twm is a green and white box
[06:33] <shree> i am new to ubuntu. Can anyone help me to configure Canon LBP1120. Pls
[06:33] <sklav> no menus
[06:33] <Crackez> twm has menus
[06:33] <Crackez> well, one
[06:33] <sklav> hehe
[06:33] <basheer> what is twm?
[06:33] <chtamina> I thougt "owl" was a name of a wmanager. Anyway I got openbox. I'm gonna try it
[06:33] <JonasNorman> pu: after i finished with ndiswrapper... i had a new entry in my network settings panel
[06:33] <sklav> the window manager = twm
[06:33] <dabaR> shree: does it work when you plug it in?
[06:34] <Crackez> twm is Tom's Window Manager
[06:34] <JonasNorman> pu: did you already look
[06:34] <basheer> ok
[06:34] <tritium> Crackez: tab window manager
[06:34] <sklav> also note for twm never close the term that is open
[06:34] <basheer> is there anyone who is willing to help me with my wifi issues?
[06:35] <pu> JonasNorman: yes, i have wlan0 active and the others inactive.
[06:35] <pu> is that correct?
[06:35] <Crackez> tritium, http://xwinman.org/vtwm.php
[06:35] <JonasNorman> pu: yes
[06:35] <tritium> Crackez: apt-cache show twm
[06:36] <Crackez> tab wm is one name for it
[06:36] <pu> what do i do next to have the connection up and running?
[06:36] <dabaR> GNU's not Unix!!!1
[06:36] <SAM_theman> whats the command...wait
[06:36] <Crackez> the description in apt is lacking
[06:36] <JonasNorman> pu: it is also enabled under the properties, and do you have the correct wireless settings for the wireless network you are trying to connect to?
[06:37] <basheer> when I click on properties for my wireless device it freezes
[06:37] <SAM_theman> mplayer for move in broswer
[06:37] <SweetestSavage> Okay uhm, it said something about not finding a matching kernal interface for my current kernel. Can anyone explain this?
[06:38] <tritium> basheer: which chipset?
[06:38] <pu> where can i find my MAC address in ubuntu? i need to add it to my router.
[06:38] <basheer> dwl-ag530
[06:38] <todd> pu: ifconfig -a
[06:38] <LordCrusader> may i ask a question?
[06:38] <pu> thank you todd
[06:38] <tritium> LordCrusader: you don't need permission :)
[06:38] <basheer> ar5212
[06:38] <LordCrusader> Is there a way to make Ubuntu look and feel like xp?
[06:38] <dabaR> !+ask
[06:39] <ubotflu> somebody said ask was Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[06:39] <Crackez> twm-> http://xwinman.org/screenshots/twm-system.gif
[06:39] <tritium> basheer: which module supports that chipset?
[06:39] <dabaR>  /kick dabaR "bot abuse"
[06:39] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, Ive got apache2 (and modperl2), I added an AddHandler to the perl.conf file, but I get a 503 whenever I navigate to it.
[06:39] <todd> LordCrusader: There are some Gnome themes that look like XP.
[06:39] <tritium> dabaR: ;)
[06:39] <ardchoille> dabaR: lol
[06:39] <dabaR> night
[06:39] <basheer> AR5212 I think
[06:39] <LordCrusader> where can i download them? And do they cost money?
[06:39] <tritium> night, dabaR
[06:40] <todd> LordCrusader: Free.. search google
[06:40] <maximumbob> I installed ubuntu in server mode... but it never asked for root password...
[06:40] <LordCrusader> Cause ubuntu does have the emulator, but it cost money :(
[06:40] <maximumbob> hmm...
[06:40] <Madpilot> maximumbob: use sudo, not root
[06:40] <basheer> crusader: gnome.org
[06:40] <FlannelKing> !sudo
[06:40] <ubotflu> FlannelKing: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:40] <Madpilot> !tell maximumbob about sudo
[06:40] <basheer> or gnome-look.org
[06:40] <_jason> maximumbob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo <-- read and understand :)
[06:40] <LordCrusader> Ok thank you guys, this has helped
[06:40] <maximumbob> gahh new distro stuff! :P
[06:41] <basheer> and it is free
[06:41] <maximumbob> I knew yall would probably get this all the time
[06:41] <Madpilot> Wha? ubotflu has no idea what the "sudo" factoid is...
[06:41] <basheer> tritium you got yahoo?
[06:41] <_jason> use rootsudo Madpilot
[06:41] <maximumbob> aha! I was going down the 'support' page... never saw the wiki
[06:41] <tritium> basheer: an account?  yes, why?
[06:41] <SAM_theman> never mind found it
[06:41] <JonasNorman> OH thats what ubotflu is
[06:41] <Madpilot> _jason: rootsudo, root & sudo all used to get the same URL...
[06:41] <swim> i need to install automake... should I install the latest version? 1.9 ?
[06:41] <basheer> im me so you can help me there if you dont mind
[06:42] <JonasNorman> i thought it was odd someone could have typed all that out about asking questions
[06:42] <tritium> swim: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:42] <_jason> Madpilot, yeah I know, I don't knwo why he doesn't know root and sudo, but rootsudo works
[06:42] <basheer> bro_bashir
[06:42] <JonasNorman> i was beginning to believe someone kept that pasted and was waiting to vent
[06:42] <JonasNorman> i mean copied to clipboard*
[06:42] <swim> tritium: yes oddly ive already installed that... but automake was not installed
[06:42] <maximumbob> hmm now sudo is a good idea
[06:42] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[06:42] <ubotflu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[06:43] <tritium> swim: it seems you're right...go ahead and install it separately
[06:43] <SweetestSavage> Gah, I can't format my hard disks so I can use them. Can anyone help me?
[06:43] <SweetestSavage> Everytime I try, I either get errors or GNOME dissappears
[06:44] <jordo23_> Hey people....is there a Ubuntu package for java's runtime environment?
[06:44] <chtamina> thanks for the advice about openbox, I'll work on it.
[06:44] <[1] ydnar> in my network properties, it finds my SSID but i don't know how to make it connect
[06:44] <_jason> jordo23, there is a .deb at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:44] <dreyes> what is up all
[06:44] <dreyes> is this mostly bots?
[06:44] <DRAGON_Ultra> the moon is up
[06:44] <_jason> dreyes, nope
[06:44] <chtamina> I have a question If I download a program with synaptic. but this program start from command line: what should I do to make it start ?
[06:45] <_jason> chtamina, run it from the command line?  or create a luncher?
[06:45] <dreyes> i just switched from fedora
[06:45] <tritium> welcome, dreyes :)
[06:45] <dreyes> ubuntu is awesome
[06:45] <chtamina> I would like to create a launcher
[06:45] <chtamina> it is called 3ddesktop
[06:45] <chtamina> I know where the file are
[06:45] <_jason> chtamina, right click on your desktop and click 'create launcher...'
[06:45] <basheer> right click on your desktop and create launcher
[06:45] <chtamina> thanks
[06:46] <[1] ydnar> if my wlan0 can find my SSID, what would be preventing me from connecting?
[06:46] <tritium> chtamina: read the docs in /usr/share/doc/3ddesktop
[06:46] <basheer> tritium???
[06:46] <SAM_theman> mplayer is alsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for broswer movies
[06:46] <tritium> basheer: I never saw your reply.  Why did you ask about yahoo?
[06:46] <dreyes> i am new and need some help on how to start
[06:46] <jordo23_> _jason: Thanks
[06:46] <basheer> im me so you can help me there if you dont mind
[06:47] <dreyes> i want to get involved in the distribution
[06:47] <basheer> bro_bashir
[06:47] <tritium> basheer: I'm heading to bed in just a few minutes
[06:47] <dreyes> where should i start
[06:47] <gbkyle> I'm trying to set up my Wifi Card on my Desktop Linksys (BCM4306) , i used ndiswrapper and it says hardware present.. wlan0 is up, but i cant grab an IP.. any suggestions?
[06:47] <basheer> oh ok
[06:47] <tritium> sorry, buddy
[06:47] <[1] ydnar> i have the same problem gbkyle (i think)
[06:47] <gbkyle> :\
[06:48] <basheer> does anyone in here have a d-link network adapter?
[06:48] <gbkyle> no luck in getting it to work eh?
[06:48] <pu`> nope.
[06:48] <pu`> ubuntu users thoughts on SymphonyOS?
[06:49] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, Ive got apache2 (and modperl2), I added an AddHandler to the perl.conf file, but I get a 503 whenever I navigate to it.
[06:49] <hypernewbie> hi all
[06:49] <basheer> hello hyper
[06:49] <hypernewbie> hi :)
[06:50] <hypernewbie> fello ubuntu lovers
[06:50] <maximumbob> what's the ubuntu app for finding a service status?
[06:50] <chtamina> what kind of file extension should a file have to get linked in the launcher ?
[06:50] <maximumbob> (or start/stop)
[06:50] <hypernewbie> service status?
[06:50] <hypernewbie> like processes?
[06:51] <_jason> chtamina, no extension necessary I believe, just put the path to the file
[06:51] <chtamina> uh
[06:51] <chtamina> ok
[06:51] <basheer> I need wifi help
[06:51] <chtamina> sorry for my windows mentality =)
[06:51] <basheer> can anyone help me please?
[06:51] <viscount> whats the best flow charting program available for this platform?
[06:51] <Myrtti> Dia?
[06:52] <Myrtti> !wifi
[06:52] <ubotflu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:52] <basheer> been there
[06:52] <durt> yeah dia is nice
[06:52] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: i think boot up manager has start/stop capability
[06:52] <Myrtti> viscount: I haven't my self used it that much, but it can do UML which is nice
[06:52] <basheer> I get stuck when it tells me to go to properties for my wifi card
[06:52] <basheer> well it freeezes
[06:53] <maximumbob> JonasNorma: I tried apt-get update then apt-get install bum, but it says Couldn't find package bum
[06:53] <SAM_theman> nitght hommies
[06:53] <viscount> Myrtti, ok, i've used it, but it was a couple years ago now, was just wondering if something better has since come along
[06:53] <SAM_theman> *night
[06:53] <durt> gnomefiles.org has lots of stuff
[06:53] <SAM_theman> see yo l8ter
[06:53] <viscount> durt, ah, good idea :)
[06:54] <z3r0_d> is there an upgrade howto? [I'm going from 5.04 to 5.10] 
[06:54] <durt> damn, its 1am and i still havent started any homework :(
[06:54] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: i'm not sure which repository has it maybe someone else will assist?
[06:54] <_jason> !breezy
[06:54] <ubotflu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:54] <Myrtti> z3r0_d: take a backup of your ~/, go to your sources.list, replace hoary with breezy, update and upgrade
[06:54] <JonasNorman> oh man i'm so excited when people call the bot
[06:55] <JonasNorman> i feel like jason just stomped his foot on the ground and the bot came from the sky
[06:55] <chtamina> if it is a path that need to get link, I'm trying to understand wich one...is it something like: /etc/3ddesktop or /usr/bin/3ddeskd ?
[06:55] <JonasNorman> glad i learned its not a person
[06:55] <basheer> I wish someone could help me
[06:55] <maximumbob> so in ubuntu, how do I start up sshd?
[06:55] <basheer> :(
[06:55] <maximumbob> *shuns basheer*
[06:55] <Madpilot> JonasNorman: you can even call the bot yourself - and even do it in /msg so you don't flood the channel :P
[06:55] <_jason> maximumbob, have you installed it?
[06:55] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: you would use apt-get install bum
[06:56] <pu`> is there a command line to return everything back to default? just like a fresh format?
[06:56] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: not update
[06:56] <maximumbob> _jason: it's not by itself?
[06:56] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: maybe that was the problem it was looking on your computer for it to upgrade, instead of install
[06:56] <maximumbob> JonasNorman: read what I wrote :)
[06:56] <hypernewbie> pu`:why not a fresh format?
[06:56] <_jason> maximumbob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto?highlight=%28ssh%29
[06:56] <MeeKz> hey can i test my DCC with someone?
[06:56] <theblue> Is there a library to play wmv files, like libquicktime1 for mov files?
[06:57] <_jason> MeeKz, only if you promise not to send me a virus
[06:57] <MeeKz> i wont
[06:57] <_jason> MeeKz, ok sounds good
[06:57] <pu`> hypernewbie, don't know.. heh
[06:57] <B1zz> anyone know of a good place where i can get a good tut for c++ and anjuta?
[06:57] <pu`> takes a long time i guess?
[06:57] <Madpilot> theblue: there's the w32codecs
[06:57] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[06:57] <hypernewbie> Blzz:www.cprogramming.com
[06:57] <maximumbob> JonasNorma: "apt-get update then apt-get install bum"
[06:58] <Madpilot> !tell theblue about w32codecs
[06:58] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: it took me a while to find that
[06:58] <Dr_Fie> how do you autoconf X?
[06:58] <pu`> im looking at that wifi wiki for ubuntu, and i'm stuck here -- "If it doesn't and you get statements saying "Destination host unreachable" or "request timed out", then you've got a problem and you aren't connected. (somebody should write some instructions on what to do next)."
[06:58] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: because you spelled my name wrong but now i see
[06:58] <basheer> that is a good thought pu
[06:58] <B1zz> thanks man
[06:59] <JonasNorman> Madpilot: can you explain the foward-slash message
[06:59] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, Ive got apache2 (and modperl2), I added an AddHandler to the perl.conf file, but I get a 503 whenever I navigate to it.
[06:59] <Madpilot> JonasNorman: the what?
[06:59] <Myrtti> pm, I presume
[06:59] <JonasNorman> for calling the bot
[06:59] <_peter_> any one know what the kde header file package is?
[06:59] <JonasNorman> madpilot: oh i mean /msg
[07:00] <Myrtti> query or msg
[07:00] <maximumbob> ok openssh is running
[07:00] <pu> heh, seems like a lot of people are having trouble setting up wifi in ubuntu.
[07:00] <maximumbob> but I can't connect :-/
[07:00] <_jason> maximumbob, make sure the port is open
[07:00] <JonasNorman> madpilot: for some reason i thought if i typed it to you it wouldn't show up, but you just did to me duh!
[07:00] <lysis> how can i burn dvd video discs?  i have VIDEO_TS folders, k3b and gnome burner don't support dvd video.
[07:00] <maximumbob> _jason: all this stuff I don't have to do with other distros :p
[07:00] <B1zz> hey whats the ! mark in front of the text mean?
[07:00] <_jason> maximumbob, and unless you disable sshkeys you'll need to set them up to connect :P
[07:01] <maximumbob> I can't find a wiki page on opening ports in ubuntu
[07:02] <Madpilot> JonasNorman: to send a pm, do /msg <nick> <message>
[07:02] <tritium> maximumbob: which one do you want to open?
[07:02] <maximumbob> 22
[07:02] <_jason> maximumbob, if you didn't mess with iptables or install some firewall it should be open
[07:02] <tritium> maximumbob: sudo apt-get install ssh, and it'll pull in openssh-server, and start it up
[07:02] <maximumbob> I've done nothing :/
[07:02] <JonasNorman> madpilot: thank you
[07:02] <maximumbob> tritium: I apt-got install openssh-server
[07:03] <maximumbob> and it's running
[07:03] <maximumbob> but I can't connect from another box
[07:03] <tritium> something else is wrong, then, maximumbob
[07:03] <pu> i've been trying to get this set up for days.. i think it's about time to give up
[07:03] <maximumbob> that's the first thing I did after OS install complete, so I can't understand what is blocking the port
[07:03] <basheer> same here pu
[07:03] <maximumbob> wait.
[07:03] <maximumbob> heh.
[07:03] <maximumbob> I forgot it never asked me to tell it what ip to use. Doh!
[07:04] <Kinection> is the firefox 1.5 package available for ubuntu?
[07:04] <basheer> a friend of mine knows how to do it but refuses to help me
[07:04] <_jason> Kinection, no
[07:04] <tritium> good night, all
[07:04] <pu> lol, are you sure he's your friend then?
[07:04] <_jason> night tritium
[07:04] <basheer> yeah
[07:04] <corey7>  how do i uninstall wine
[07:04] <B1zz> later tritium
[07:04] <tritium> see you, _jason, B1zz
[07:05] <pu> i just don't understand it.. i feel like i'm at the very last step of connecting, but i have no idea what's preventing me
[07:05] <basheer> we continuously do that to each other but after watching the frustration for a while we give in
[07:05] <pu> i guess he wants you to learn
[07:05] <basheer> but I need to move this damn thing
[07:05] <basheer> yeah
[07:05] <basheer> but soon I will have no net cuz my wife aint havin this
[07:06] <maximumbob> no wonder! that box has always been at ...101, but mr DHCP put it at 107
[07:06] <basheer> I guess I am gonna be sol
[07:06] <pu> or maybe soon you will have no wife because you have no net
[07:06] <pu> lol
[07:06] <basheer> lol
[07:06] <B1zz> lol
[07:07] <basheer> then what good is a computer?
[07:07] <pu> you can use it to type stories.
[07:07] <basheer> no woman no net pfffffff
[07:07] <pu> no net = no girl
[07:07] <basheer> and print them out right?
[07:08] <basheer> and post them on my wall
[07:08] <pu> that is correct.
[07:08] <basheer> ooooh lookie what I wrote
[07:08] <basheer> oh but wait
[07:08] <basheer> I dont have a printer
[07:09] <basheer> no net no printer no woman
[07:10] <hypernewbie> int foo()
[07:10] <Crackez> well, before i fall asleep in my office chair, g'nite
[07:10] <_jason> benplaut, I've been waiting for you... apparently you ate my brains
[07:10] <B1zz> night
[07:11] <benplaut> _jason: yes, a bit spicy, but pretty damn good!
[07:11] <_jason> heh
[07:11] <chtamina> goodbye, thanks
[07:11] <basheer> alright pu I guess I will just call it a night
[07:12] <pu> night
[07:12] <hypernewbie> someone know how to get wine working under hoary
[07:12] <hypernewbie> ?
[07:13] <vega-> does anybody know how it is possible that tomcat is not in ubuntu repos but libapache-mod-jk (connector for tomcat/apache) is ?
[07:13] <basheer> I hope you figure it out
[07:13] <basheer> give me hope
[07:13] <basheer> like it can be done
[07:13] <sapo`> I need some help, my new ubuntu install hangs after it loads the partition manager.
[07:13] <maximumbob> hmm... apt-get couldn't find mpd. do I need to tell it where to look?
[07:13] <vega-> and can it really be that there is no tomcat in breezy?
[07:13] <maximumbob> it also can't find bum
[07:14] <maximumbob> or mpc :-/
[07:14] <JonasNorman> maximumbob: i was just about to chime in
[07:14] <vega-> dapper seems to have tomcat
[07:14] <maximumbob> whereis doesn't show an apt-get config file
[07:14] <JonasNorman> pu: the wireless is tough
[07:14] <Myrtti> basheer: have you looked into hardware database if your wifi is supported? or some other database?
[07:15] <JonasNorman> pu: is getting a different NIC an option for you
[07:15] <cmatheson> maximumbob: /etc/apt/* (probably sources.list is what you're looking for?)
[07:15] <Myrtti> sorry if someone already asked it
[07:15] <basheer> yes
[07:15] <maximumbob> cmatheson: but what to I add? the ubuntu wiki says just do apt-get install bum and it will work
[07:15] <basheer> it is an atheros chipset
[07:15] <JonasNorman> pu: i have a netgear the worked right out the box
[07:15] <hypernewbie> maxibob: u have to uncomment lines
[07:15] <sapo`> REPEAT:I need some help, my new ubuntu install hangs after it loads the partition manager.
[07:16] <hypernewbie> maxibob: even though that has never worked for me
[07:16] <cmatheson> maximumbob: hmm, i don't know, have you enabled the universe/multiverse repositories yet?
[07:16] <maximumbob> cmatheson: I will nwo
[07:16] <maximumbob> now
[07:16] <cmatheson> maximumbob: ok, then just do 'apt-get update && apt-get install bum' and it should work
[07:16] <frogzoo> sapo`: what your drive configuration & bios config?
[07:16] <maximumbob> cmatheson: backports==multiverse?
[07:16] <basheer> mrytti do you think you can help me?
[07:17] <kevogod> maximumbob, No
[07:17] <pu> Jonas, i am using a netgear ma521
[07:17] <Myrtti> well, the problem is that I've never worked with wifi even in Windows
[07:17] <cmatheson> maximumbob: != .  there should be a line for universe
[07:17] <pu> is it the NIC?
[07:17] <maximumbob> cmatheson: I found universe
[07:17] <cmatheson> maximumbob: and then just copy that and change universe for mulitverse
[07:17] <maximumbob> ah roger
[07:17] <cmatheson> maximumbob: or add multiverse after universe on that line
[07:17] <basheer> oh
[07:17] <sapo`> frogzoo : I have 2 Drives, one dedicated to windows - set as master and one soon to be dedicated to ubuntu - slave
[07:18] <Myrtti> but the google does show up madwifi and that Ubuntu apparently does support it, and at some point has support it even better than Debian
[07:18] <basheer> I did wifi in windows for a family member
[07:18] <basheer> but now I need it for my machine before my wife kills me
[07:18] <frogzoo> sapo`: 1st - check that you have the jumpers correctly set - linux is fussy about this - master & slave, nothing else works
[07:18] <TheRaginAsian> just a quick one...
[07:19] <pu> torrent in ubuntu? :p
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> who in here is using amd64?
[07:19] <sapo`> frogzoo : I have checked that the jumpers are set like that, I also tried unplugging the slave drive and it didnt do anything
[07:19] <B1zz> me
[07:19] <chapium> anyone know a good alarm clock program?
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> and... it is better to use the amd64 build of Ubuntu over the standard?
[07:19] <Myrtti> xmms apparently has something like alarm clock, though can't be sure
[07:19] <maximumbob> cmatheson: when I updated, I got a bunch of 101 errors
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> are there any tradeoffs from what you've seen?
[07:19] <JonasNorman> pu: is it a usb interface
[07:19] <Myrtti> actually a plugin for xmms
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> I just don't want it to be crippling like Windows x64 is
[07:20] <cmatheson> maximumbob: hmm, what is a 101 error again?
[07:20] <B1zz> ah you didnt ask about abubtu 64 u just use an amd64 prossesor :-p
[07:20] <maximumbob> network unreachable
[07:20] <maximumbob> wha
[07:20] <B1zz> ubuntu*
[07:20] <TheRaginAsian> haha sorry
[07:20] <maximumbob> well all was working a minute ago
[07:20] <maximumbob> hold on
[07:20] <TheRaginAsian> ok, so your like me right now then, you have an amd64 with 32-bit ubuntu?
[07:20] <JonasNorman> pu: i have had great results with netgear.  i did 2 PCI and one laptop- pcmia is called?
[07:20] <TheRaginAsian> correct?
[07:20] <frogzoo> sapo`: with the slave unplugged, you cant boot the install CD?
[07:20] <B1zz> yes sir :)
[07:21] <sapo`> frogzoo : with the slave unplugged the same hang up happens
[07:21] <TheRaginAsian> oh did anyone else have this happen? im running amd64 with an GeForce 6800 and the nv driver won't work for squat
[07:21] <Myrtti> basheer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78281.html ?
[07:21] <TheRaginAsian> just to get video I had to boot into recovery mode and apt-get for nvidia-glx
[07:21] <cmatheson> TheRaginAsian: have you thought about using the non-free drivers?
[07:21] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, its my only choice lol
[07:21] <maximumbob> cmatheson: something that happened killed my outside net accesss
[07:22] <frogzoo> sapo`: & definately jumpered as master - not cable select? how old is your CD player?
[07:22] <cmatheson> maximumbob: oooh, ok... there's not a whole lot we can do about that then... how are you on irc if you can't access the net though?
[07:22] <oren> how do I install java for Firefox?
[07:22] <maximumbob> different box
[07:22] <TheRaginAsian> well like, my PLAN was to eventually use the glx drivers, but its like... honestly, if I didn't have a good background knoweldge of Linux I would have been stuck
[07:22] <Anil> Hi all I'm a newbie, need help with 3d graphics and gaming under Ubuntu!
[07:22] <TheRaginAsian> Anil: BLASPHMEY!
[07:22] <cmatheson> TheRaginAsian: yeah, i've never had problems w/ the nv drivers, but my card isn't that new either
[07:22] <frogzoo> !3d
[07:22] <ubotflu> frogzoo: I give up, what is it?
[07:22] <sapo`> frogzoo : yes I just set it to master today, I have a DVD drive and im using the DVD version of ubuntu its less than 6 months old
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> well, for example, when I had a GeForce4, nv would at least work long enough for me to be able to use Synaptic and go
[07:23] <B1zz> frozoo what do you do with that?
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> but this time... man, if I didnt load the NV I was screwed
[07:23] <B1zz> the !3d
[07:23] <pu> Jonas, it is pcmia
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> maybe its cause its PCI-E?
[07:23] <hypernewbie> oren : synaptic
[07:23] <frogzoo> sapo`: hmm... just guessing here, but maybe try the CD install
[07:23] <maximumbob> cmatheson: well I checked my resolv.conf, and it had my router as its nameserver (??) so I set them right and am rebooting
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> does anyone know of known issues with nv and pic-e
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> *pci-e
[07:24] <JonasNorman> pu: and what was your problem
[07:24] <maximumbob> gah it's 01:30 here and I have a calc exam tomorrow! :p
[07:24] <JonasNorman> pu: you couldn't connect to the network
[07:24] <Anil> Fortunately/Unfortunately, I don't have an NVidia. I  have a lowly intel 915! :)
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> I guess the only real question I have at this point though, is if I should run the amd64 of Ubuntu or not
[07:24] <pu> in the network config tool, it finds my essid but i'm not connected?
[07:24] <maximumbob> today*
[07:24] <cmatheson> maximumbob: i have that same problem w/ my router! stupid faulty dns info... anyway, if it's a linux box you don't need to reboot
[07:24] <frogzoo> maximumbob: best turn in - don't blame Ubuntu for your calc results :)
[07:25] <cmatheson> pu: is it dhcp? try running 'dhcpclient eht0'
[07:25] <maximumbob> cmatheson: I know :)
[07:25] <cmatheson> maximumbob: oh ok, sorry
[07:25] <maximumbob> cmatheson: makes me feel better :p
[07:25] <uenyioha> http://lxr.linux.no/
[07:25] <TheRaginAsian> thecore: thanks, but im well familiar
[07:25] <theCore> TheRaginAsian, okay, then
[07:25] <uenyioha> could someone please try accessing this site for some reason I cant get it on my browser.....
[07:25] <Anil> Hey even I had a 100% score in epidemiology even while falling in love with Ubuntu! :D
[07:25] <pu> cmatheson, 'command not found'
[07:25] <cmatheson> pu: sorry 'dhclient'
[07:26] <cmatheson> pu: typo
[07:26] <uenyioha> i just need to make sure its up
[07:26] <janems> hller
[07:26] <janems> hey
[07:26] <janems> heller
[07:26] <maximumbob> wha?
[07:26] <TheRaginAsian> thank you all the same though
[07:26] <maximumbob> ubuntu runs in single user mode?
[07:27] <pu> i think it may be my wireless card..
[07:27] <TheRaginAsian> Is there anyone running amd64 version of Ubuntu?
[07:27] <frogzoo> maximumbob: no reason why not - 'reboot -s' iirc
[07:27] <cmatheson> pu: are you doing that w/ 'sudo'
[07:27] <cmatheson> pu: 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[07:27] <pu> yes
[07:27] <pu> i did it on wlan0
[07:27] <cmatheson> pu: it says command not found?
[07:27] <pu> no, works now
[07:27] <cmatheson> pu: ooh.. ok
[07:28] <pu> says.. "sit0: unknown hardware address type 776"
[07:28] <pu> among other things..
[07:28] <B1zz> eh?
[07:28] <B1zz> ahh the wireless blues
[07:28] <pu> yep.
[07:28] <B1zz> been there done that
[07:28] <cmatheson> pu: hmm, i don't know why it's trying to access sit0... are you using ipv6?
[07:29] <pu> nope.
[07:29] <maximumbob> frogzoo: no, as in it booted up in rl 2
[07:29] <pu> what is sit0?
[07:29] <cdubya> how do you set the default application to handle dvds?
[07:29] <abarbaccia> anybody here successfully format a drive with LVM using ubuntu's install CD?
[07:29] <B1zz> sit0 i think is your modem
[07:29] <Anil> It appears to me that I will never be able to run Diablo usinig wine! Damn I have to keep Windoze XP! :(
[07:29] <JonasNorman> you know guys, and girls, we always have problems with wireless
[07:29] <B1zz> what you trying to get to work?
[07:29] <cmatheson> pu: it's a ipv6 to ipv4 thing. most people won't ever use it
[07:29] <JonasNorman> and wish companies would make cards with drivers for linux
[07:29] <Anil> Jonas I never had a problem with wireless in Ubuntu
[07:29] <B1zz> is it ndiswrapper or madwifi?
[07:29] <JonasNorman> me neither
[07:30] <JonasNorman> let me finish lol
[07:30] <pu> haha
[07:30] <JonasNorman> i think we should email companies
[07:30] <JonasNorman> when we have success
[07:30] <JonasNorman> and say thank you
[07:30] <jenco> i'm using ndiswrapper with my belkin wireless card =)
[07:30] <JonasNorman> so they know people with linux are buying their stuff
[07:30] <JonasNorman> i had 3 out of the box working from netgear
[07:30] <JonasNorman> and i think for each of those models, i should send them some feedback
[07:30] <maximumbob> okiedoke... going to bed. I'll probably be back tomorrow
[07:31] <benplaut> linux lacks a decent SVG editor
[07:31] <benplaut> *grumble grumble*
[07:31] <maximumbob> au revoir
[07:31] <cmatheson> benplaut: yeah right, inkscape rocks
[07:31] <B1zz> im using 2 belkin cards
[07:31] <pu> ok, quick off topic question.. say i did have wireless running fine
[07:31] <benplaut> when working with 30 or more layers, inkscape is useless
[07:31] <pu> if i was to use my laptop at an internet cafe, would i have to go through this every time?
[07:31] <JonasNorman> and then i should also email companies that don't, and show them my newegg invoice with netgear products
[07:31] <B1zz> one wirks with madwifi and other uses ndiswrapper
[07:31] <cmatheson> pu: no... shouldn't... hey, paste the output from iwconfig somewhere
[07:31] <Codyman> i'm trying to install the flight2 test i386... installler loads (from cd) and after a few steps ask for me to choose a mirror to the ubuntu archive... i leave it blank and hit continue... then it says bad archive mirror... i then go back and try to load installer from cd... and it does the same thing.. wahts going on?
[07:31] <benplaut> cmatheson: although i agree... it rocks for small task
[07:31] <benplaut> s
[07:32] <pu> IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:off/any
[07:32] <jenco> o and btw i finally got my ati card installed correctly now O.o. No more crappy intergrated video
[07:32] <cmatheson> benplaut: yeah... i guess i haven't done anything hardcore w/ it... my girlfriend says it runs slow w/ really complex pictures but i thought that was cuz she was running the windoze version
[07:32] <pu> Mode: Auto    Frequency:2.462 GHz   Acess Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00
[07:33] <pu> Bit Rate: 11 Mb/s    Tx-Power:20 dBm    Sensitivity=0/3
[07:33] <B1zz> pu you trying to get wireless to work?
[07:33] <pu> (btw, im typing all of this out from my laptop.. lol)
[07:33] <cmatheson> pu: ok, probably don't want to paste it in here... but it doesn't see your access point, and you have't set an essid
[07:33] <benplaut> ok... everyone! we need 600 emails to Corel to demand a linux version of the Draw! suite!
[07:33] <pu> yes
[07:33] <pu> ohhh...
[07:33] <pu> sorry
[07:33] <linuxamoeba21> hello all
[07:33] <pu> i thought this is what you meant by "paste it somewhere"
[07:33] <pu> heh
[07:33] <B1zz> sup
[07:33] <theblue> Hello, linuxamoeba21.
[07:33] <cmatheson> pu: that's ok... now run 'iwconfig wlan0 essid your-essid'
[07:34] <cmatheson> pu: and then try that dhclient again
[07:34] <linuxamoeba21> how can i get to a real console without screwing up X... i.e. actually kill X and still have it come back next time
[07:34] <MystaMax_> hello all
[07:34] <cmatheson> linuxamoeba21: ctrl+alt+f1
[07:34] <MystaMax_> anyone using PyMusique
[07:34] <linuxamoeba21> but then X is still open in f7
[07:34] <linuxamoeba21> i need X to die for real
[07:34] <pu> i have that same sit0 response..
[07:34] <cmatheson> linuxamoeba21: you don't want X up?
[07:35] <B1zz> pu
[07:35] <linuxamoeba21> correct
[07:35] <xcm> i have some ubuntu questions, anyone wanna help?
[07:35] <B1zz> when you do iwconfig that all you get?
[07:35] <TheRaginAsian> xcm: lay em out
[07:35] <cmatheson> linuxamoeba21: you could log out of X and then type '/etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[07:35] <pu> no
[07:35] <cmatheson> hey guys, i gotta go to bed... good luck i'm out
[07:35] <pu> it begins with.. "There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient............ with pid 0"
[07:35] <linuxamoeba21> matheson: thanks
[07:35] <xcm> ok cool.  does it have any window managers besides gnome?
[07:35] <jenco> anyone here that can get me a gmail invite code?
[07:35] <pu> i have one jenco
[07:35] <B1zz> you running the graphical setup?
[07:35] <TheRaginAsian> jenco: gimme your e-mail
[07:36] <pu> give me your email address
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> hahaha
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> me and pu are ON IT
[07:36] <pu> heh
[07:36] <B1zz> or maybe another terminal?
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> jenco: want like 49 of em?
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[07:36] <poningru> can someone recommend a good gui torrent app?
[07:36] <pu> seriously..
[07:36] <poningru> something like azureus but less bloaty
[07:36] <pu> azeurus?
[07:36] <jenco> phate@dcemail.com
[07:36] <poningru> less bloaty and it sucks since it depends on java
[07:36] <basheer> amule
[07:36] <dragoon> the new dapper kernel doent like my SATA Card
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> poningru: don't like the standard torrent client?
[07:36] <pu> torrent on linux would be nice
[07:37] <jenco> and thanks =)
[07:37] <B1zz> abc is a good one
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> basheer: mule doesnt do torrents
[07:37] <B1zz> at least back in the day
[07:37] <basheer> mldonkey
[07:37] <poningru> B1zz: its not floss
[07:37] <basheer> my fault
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> donkey clients don't do torrent
[07:37] <poningru> mldonkey eh? hmm
[07:37] <xcm> TheRaginAsian- does ubuntu have any window managers besides gnome?
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> eh, its no prob
[07:37] <pu> kubuntu?
[07:37] <poningru> xcm: ofcourse
[07:37] <cdubya> does anyone know how to set a particular app as the default dvd handler?
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> google kubuntu
[07:37] <poningru> kubuntu, xubuntu
[07:37] <xcm> which?
[07:37] <poningru> etc.
[07:38] <poningru> floss = free libre open source software
[07:38] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, kubuntu or xubuntu are the most popular
[07:38] <xcm> well i like fluxbox...would that come or would i download & install it afterwards?
[07:38] <B1zz> ahhh  :)
[07:38] <B1zz> rgr
[07:38] <TheRaginAsian> if you wanna delve into others youll have to do a little more work
[07:38] <rickest> xcm: several, search w/ synaptic.  btw, gnome is a Desk Env that uses metacity as its win mngr. gnome != wm
[07:38] <jdub> xcm: there are heaps of window managers in the ubuntu repositories
[07:38] <basheer> this wifi stuf is driving me nuts
[07:38] <TheRaginAsian> xcm: yeah, jut downlouad flux after
[07:38] <xcm> what is xubuntu
[07:38] <poningru> xfce
[07:38] <mustard5> !fluxbox
[07:38] <ubotflu> mustard5: Wish i knew
[07:38] <xcm> ohh, never used that
[07:38] <jdub> xcm: just search for 'window manager' in the package repo...
[07:38] <JonasNorman> haaa
[07:38] <rickest> xcm: kde optimized version of ubuntu
[07:38] <xcm> can you link the package repo?
[07:39] <dragoon> dammit - the new kernel doesnt support sil3112
[07:39] <corey7> nothing works with wine
[07:39] <xcm> i run slackware now, but i wanna update lol
[07:39] <JonasNorman> the bot does not know
[07:39] <B1zz> hehe yeah nothing
[07:39] <silverton> !fstab
[07:39] <ubotflu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[07:39] <TheRaginAsian> funniest thing about the derivities of ubuntu are they are the EXACT same except for some re-writes to what apt installs
[07:39] <jdub> xcm: packages.ubuntu.com is the easiest thing to use if you're not sitting in front of ubuntu right now
[07:39] <JonasNorman> it was a diss
[07:39] <TheRaginAsian> which, I personally find to be the most intelligent install design to date
[07:39] <jdub> xcm: ultimately, i recommend gnome though :)
[07:40] <poningru> is mldonkey very bloaty?
[07:40] <TheRaginAsian> although honestly, its time ubuntu had a GUI for install
[07:40] <asfra> !partition
[07:40] <ubotflu> asfra: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:40] <xcm> thanks guys
[07:40] <silverton> !partitions
[07:40] <ubotflu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[07:40] <xcm> lol why so jdub
[07:40] <jdub> TheRaginAsian: look forward to dapper
[07:40] <poningru> TheRaginAsian: it does for dapper
[07:40] <TheRaginAsian> depending on what your running, you may not need a different desktop environment
[07:40] <pu> oh, by the way.. thanks to all in here that have been trying to help me
[07:40] <csezol> Where do i find a sources.list for hoary _
[07:40] <MystaMax_> quick question: whats the easiest way to switch between php5 and php4 on ubuntu
[07:40] <TheRaginAsian> WHAT!?
[07:40] <csezol> ?
[07:40] <B1zz> you taking off pu?
[07:40] <TheRaginAsian> dapper is going to have graphical install?
[07:40] <TheRaginAsian> your shitting me
[07:40] <pu> not yet
[07:40] <jdub> xcm: it's cool
[07:40] <B1zz> you get it to work?
[07:40] <jdub> TheRaginAsian: livecd based install
[07:40] <pu> nope.
[07:40] <B1zz> ahhh
[07:41] <csezol> Where do i find a sources.list for hoary ?
[07:41] <pu> should i try a clean install?
[07:41] <TheRaginAsian> jdub: does the latest flight have that yet?
[07:41] <B1zz> can i take a crack at it?
[07:41] <jdub> TheRaginAsian: no
[07:41] <Madpilot> !sources
[07:41] <mustard5> !sources
[07:41] <ubotflu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:41] <csezol> i wasnt connected during install.
[07:41] <TheRaginAsian> I was wondering when they'd get around to that
[07:41] <pu> please do.
[07:41] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, when I try to install "linux-k7", it says "Package not found: linux-k7". Does anyone know why?
[07:41] <xcm> do all of you use a window manager or pure command?
[07:41] <basheer> pu a reinstall wont help
[07:41] <silverton> what options do I pass in fstab to make a cifs readable/writable to a user?
[07:41] <poningru> xcm: almost everyone uses a wm
[07:41] <muszek> hi
[07:41] <xcm> cool
[07:41] <Badm4n> can i install eggdrop using apt-get ? if yes .. what the packaged name ?
[07:41] <jdub> xcm: very few people use a linux console alone
[07:41] <poningru> xcm: only servers are run on pure command
[07:41] <unforcer> huomenta
[07:41] <poningru> even then
[07:42] <SweetestSavage> And, if it's not the right package name, may someone tell me what the K7 Kernel is?
[07:42] <unforcer> hubs wrong channel :)
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> I keep saying it and im sticking to it, Ubuntu is easily the most complete distro ive ever used
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> I mean comon, that was like, my LAST complaint
[07:42] <rickest> xcm: I mostly use a console in X
[07:42] <JonasNorman> xcm: my laptop is just console cause its junk
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> was getting a grapical install
[07:42] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, linux-k7 is correct
[07:42] <KaRupT> Anyone know why my firefox browsers would be very slow after a fresh install of Breezy???
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> after that, who the hell knows
[07:42] <KaRupT> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=236 time=102 ms
[07:42] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, well it says it cannot find it. Any reasons why?
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> I wont have anything left to bitch about
[07:42] <KaRupT> that looks like a normal ping
[07:42] <rickest> xcm: my servers at work are all console-only
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> its just not fair lol
[07:42] <KaRupT> so I guess its firefox
[07:42] <SweetestSavage> I updated and uncommented everything with deb/deb-src in sources.list, and nothing
[07:42] <JonasNorman> xcm: i could only install server, but it impresses everyone in computer class when i do things on it
[07:42] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, do you have extra repositories enabled?
[07:42] <SweetestSavage> Oh.. and upgraded aswell
[07:42] <mustard5> !linux-k7
[07:42] <SweetestSavage> Yes I do
[07:42] <ubotflu> Bugger all, i dunno, mustard5
[07:42] <mustard5> !info linux-k7
[07:43] <ubotflu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[07:43] <FerNN> Hi.. Good night.
[07:43] <Badm4n> !eggdrop
[07:43] <ubotflu> Badm4n: What?
[07:43] <asfra> hi, i have a 60 GB drive and want to install breezy, i'm thinking of making a 20 GB partiotion for the base system, and a 40 for my home folder (/home/myname). Because i want to have movies and music separated from the rest. Are there problems with this? thanks...
[07:43] <FlannelKing> asfra, multiple partitions is recommended
[07:43] <Badm4n> ubotflu, tell me about eggdrop
[07:43] <xcm> one more question..i have a firewire external hard drive that i cant get to mount in slackware...would ubuntu handle this any better.  everyone tells me slackware is bad about that
[07:43] <Badm4n> can i install eggdrop using apt-get ? if yes .. what the packaged name ?
[07:43] <TheRaginAsian> anyone in here using captive for NTFS writing?
[07:43] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, apparently its in the restricted restricted/base
[07:44] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thanks mustard5.
[07:44] <Tomcat_> asfra: 20G is usually too much for the base system
[07:44] <SweetestSavage> My motherboard is an ASUS K8N, should I use the linux-k8 instead?
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> beacuse, I'd like to be able to NTFS write since I store all my data on NTFS
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> but im sorta afraid
[07:44] <silverton> SweetestSavage, what kind of processor do you have?
[07:44] <silverton> athlon xp?
[07:44] <silverton> or athlon64?
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> jenco: can you get my PM's
[07:44] <SweetestSavage> Athlon 64-bit 2800
[07:44] <silverton> then you use k8
[07:44] <jenco> guess not ><
[07:44] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thank you
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> registered my nick a long ass time ago but it denies my password!
[07:45] <asfra> Tomcat_,  how much do I need then? 10 GB for the base system perhaps? I also have an external drive so...
[07:45] <mustard5> I didn't even know there was a k8
[07:45] <TheRaginAsian> jenco: I can see but cant write back to PM's
[07:45] <TheRaginAsian> send me your e-mail addy again
[07:45] <KaRupT> Anyone?????
[07:45] <jenco> lolz
[07:45] <Tomcat_> asfra: It depends what you want to put there... if your base system includes /var and you have big databases, you might need more.
[07:45] <KaRupT> Please
[07:45] <Badm4n> any1 can help me ?
[07:45] <Badm4n> can i install eggdrop using apt-get ? if yes .. what the packaged name ?
[07:45] <Tomcat_> asfra: I got 6G for the base system and only use 3G of it.
[07:46] <xcm> one more question..i have a firewire external hard drive that i cant get to mount in slackware...would ubuntu handle this any better.  everyone tells me slackware is bad about that
[07:46] <FerNN> have a problem trying to run a telnet daemon.. anyone willing to giving me a hand?
[07:47] <vega-> xcm: probably, slackware is not really automating a lot of stuff..
[07:47] <poningru> !fonts
[07:47] <ubotflu> poningru: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:47] <poningru> !font
[07:47] <ubotflu> poningru: Wish i knew
[07:47] <asfra> Tomcat_, ok, then I will make it around 6 GB.. But having '/home/myname' on an own partition is not a good idea? Should i rather make a '/music&movies' -directory on an own partition?
[07:47] <poningru> me too
[07:47] <Badm4n> :(
[07:48] <xcm> vega: so you're saying ubuntu will?
[07:48] <Badm4n> can i install eggdrop using apt-get ? if yes .. what the packaged name ? help pls
[07:48] <vega-> xcm: just guessing :)
[07:48] <xcm> hah ok cool
[07:48] <vega-> xcm: but i recall someone here at work saying it detected their firewire hd
[07:48] <TheRaginAsian> jenco: invite is out
[07:48] <TheRaginAsian> have fun
[07:48] <jenco> $$ thx
[07:48] <TheRaginAsian> np
[07:49] <FlannelKing> badm4n, its name is 'eggdrop', search apt next time
[07:49] <asfra> FlannelKing, So having '/home/myname' on an own partition is not a good idea? Should i rather make a '/music&movies' -directory on an own partition?
[07:49] <Badm4n> apt-get install eggdrop ?
[07:49] <Badm4n> like that ?
[07:49] <basheer> sudo
[07:49] <poningru> !fonts is <reply> To install fonts take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[07:49] <ubotflu> okay, poningru
[07:49] <poningru> !fonts
[07:49] <ubotflu> poningru: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:49] <xcm> ok thanks vega-
[07:49] <rightcoast> yep, and apt-cache search eggdrop to check it next time :D
[07:49] <FlannelKing> oh, and Badm4n, it's in universe.
[07:49] <poningru> !fonts
[07:49] <poningru> !fonts
[07:50] <Badm4n> ok
[07:50] <B1zz> hey whats that mean? the !
[07:50] <B1zz> the !fonts
[07:50] <linuxboy> what is a good program for torrents in ubuntu?
[07:50] <poningru> Seveas: HELP
[07:50] <B1zz> what are you suppose to do with that?
[07:51] <Badm4n> root@tequila:~# apt-get install eggdrop
[07:51] <poningru> B1zz: its supposed to help you
[07:51] <poningru> for example
[07:51] <poningru> !partition
[07:51] <ubotflu> No idea, poningru
[07:51] <poningru> hmm nm
[07:51] <poningru> I think its on the fritz
[07:51] <B1zz> just type it in here like that?
[07:51] <rosendahl_> linuxboy, I've had most luck using Azereus
[07:51] <B1zz> !3d
[07:51] <ubotflu> B1zz: I don't know
[07:51] <muszek> has anyone had a problem with EasyTag seeing weird characters instead of non-latin1 characters?
[07:51] <linuxboy> rosendahl_: thanks
[07:52] <poningru> linuxboy: but that thing is bloated
[07:52] <JonasNorman> it was partitions
[07:52] <linuxboy> poningru: what do you suggest?
[07:52] <JonasNorman> not partition
[07:52] <poningru> I am currently trying out mldonkey
[07:52] <JonasNorman> i watched you or someone do it before
[07:52] <xcm> what are these different groups of packages? warty, breezy?
[07:52] <JonasNorman> !partitions
[07:52] <ubotflu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[07:52] <JonasNorman> see
[07:52] <B1zz> !partitions
[07:52] <that_weasel> Anyone able to get The Mana World running on Breezy?
[07:53] <Badm4n> FlannelKing, [20:51]  * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR) may i know where is the config files ?
[07:53] <rosendahl_> poningru, bloated ? .. as in using alot of computerpower ?
[07:53] <poningru> rosendahl_: and network
[07:53] <FlannelKing> no idea badm4n, that'd be a eggdrop specific thing.
[07:53] <rosendahl_> poningru, allright I've noticed the powerconsumption, but havent really noticed anything on my network
[07:53] <JonasNorman> blzz: did that work for you?
[07:54] <poningru> rosendahl_: it has lots of features that I do not need/want which ofcourse uses up bandwidth as well as computing resources
[07:54] <irvin> that_weasel: i have
[07:54] <rosendahl_> poningru, I'm on a 10Mb line though
[07:54] <xcm> what are these different groups of packages? warty, breezy?
[07:54] <JonasNorman> blzz: i didn't see anything
[07:54] <that_weasel> irvin: care to share your secrets?
[07:54] <irvin> xcm: warty, breezy are releases
[07:54] <irvin> that_weasel: what's your problem with tmw?
[07:54] <poningru> rosendahl_: 5mb here but with two more comps with me
[07:54] <B1zz> eh?
[07:54] <B1zz> i was told that the ! was for help
[07:54] <JonasNorman> the !
[07:54] <xcm> irvin: so if i download the  cd will i just get the latest?
[07:55] <JonasNorman> yeah
[07:55] <B1zz> i was trying it
[07:55] <JonasNorman> theres a bot
[07:55] <B1zz> i dont know what it does :-p
[07:55] <JonasNorman> and people call to it
[07:55] <that_weasel> well, its not in the repos, and guichan doesn't compile...i'm guessing its a gcc4 thing...
[07:55] <JonasNorman> with keywords
[07:55] <rosendahl_> poningru, one thing I've noticed using Azureus is that my download rate doesnt really change with how much I allow to upload like in other torrent-clients
[07:55] <that_weasel> i would prefer to use the packages, but they don't seem to be working either
[07:55] <linuxboy> rosendahl_: I can't find Azereus
[07:56] <PoW> whats a good par/par2 program for ubuntu?
[07:56] <poningru> linuxboy: its not in our repositories because it depends on java
[07:56] <poningru> which is not so free
[07:56] <linuxboy> poningru: gah
[07:56] <irvin> xcm: wait i'll check... afaik tmw is not in the repo
[07:57] <linuxboy> poningru: thats a good enough reason not to use it :P
[07:57] <that_weasel> irvin: i'm pretty sure its not in Breezy (multi or otherwise)
[07:57] <poningru> linuxboy: exactly thank you
[07:57] <FlannelKing> you can still get it, you'll just have to install java (from sun, instructions... are.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 )
[07:58] <that_weasel> i tried using the debs on the website, but didn't have much luck with that either...its unable satisfy the libcurl dep
[07:58] <EvilJosh> i just installed ubantu...i am liking it and i hate linux...i installed the default...i can log in as a user, but can not log in as root...Is there somethig i missed, like a root password selection screen or something?
[07:58] <boedi> hello
[07:58] <rosendahl_> it didnt require any form of registration to install so how can it not be free ?
[07:58] <boedi> i wanna ask u somehing
[07:58] <FlannelKing> !RootSudo
[07:58] <ubotflu> rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:58] <FlannelKing> check that out EvilJosh
[07:58] <EvilJosh> thanks
[07:58] <irvin> that_weasel: there's a different repo for it
[07:59] <FlannelKing> rosendahl_, it's not open source, it's 'free asin beer' but not 'as in speech'
[07:59] <boedi> what writing tools that can work on ubuntu?
[07:59] <that_weasel> rosendahl_: its free to use, but not free as in source...
[07:59] <Madpilot> boedi: what sort of writing?
[07:59] <irvin> that_weasel: here it is:
[07:59] <irvin> pkg_add: can't stat package file 'firefox'
[07:59] <that_weasel> irvin: happen to have that repo info handy?
[07:59] <irvin> my bad
[07:59] <boedi> like if we use windows we have nero and something else
[07:59] <rosendahl_> ah ... I can live with that heh
[07:59] <that_weasel> :)
[07:59] <boedi> so what do we have for ubuntu
[07:59] <irvin> deb http://bertram.ifrance.com ./
[07:59] <irvin> deb-src http://bertram.ifrance.com ./
[07:59] <Madpilot> boedi: you mean CD/DVD burning?
[08:00] <TheRaginAsian> my favorite is K3B
[08:00] <pu> OMGGGGGGGGG
[08:00] <irvin> that_weasel: then apt-get update
[08:00] <boedi> madpilot: cd burning yes
[08:00] <irvin> that_weasel: apt-get install tmw
[08:00] <pu> it works! it's aliiiiveeee!
[08:00] <TheRaginAsian> because honestly, every GTK burner ive used doesnt actively decompress my MP3
[08:00] <TheRaginAsian> MP3's
[08:00] <Madpilot> boedi: there's lots of burners - Nautilus does ISOs & data CDs, k3b seems to do everything, and there are lots of other burning apps
[08:00] <boedi> so any recommendation for something that can run on linux...
[08:01] <TheRaginAsian> why is it, honestly, that all the GTK burning apps have to decompress the MP3's before burning, while K3b has NO problem doing it on the fly
[08:01] <rosendahl_> k3b is the only one I've found that can do overburns
[08:01] <boedi> this is my first time using ubunti
[08:01] <TheRaginAsian> boedi: every suggestion made
[08:01] <fishfillet> ubuntu..
[08:01] <TheRaginAsian> Nautilus and K3B are both for Linux
[08:01] <boedi> ubuntu sorry mistype :) so need more help from expert :)
[08:01] <TheRaginAsian> Nautilus is already installed in fact
[08:01] <Madpilot> boedi: Nautilus is the default file manager
[08:01] <boedi> ooo ok
[08:01] <that_weasel> irvin: thanks!
[08:02] <boedi> then how can i start it???
[08:02] <Madpilot> boedi: Places menu -> Home Folder - the thing that starts is Nautilus
[08:02] <TheRaginAsian> open nautilus, select "Go", and then select "CD/DVD Creator"
[08:02] <boedi> hmmm
[08:02] <TheRaginAsian> have drag n drop fun!
[08:03] <boedi> wait i'm writing down... i'm on internet cage
[08:03] <boedi> cafe so can't try it now
[08:03] <TheRaginAsian> oh
[08:03] <boedi> will go home and try
[08:03] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, bascially its like this
[08:03] <fishfillet> i thought ur using ubuntu
[08:03] <dooglus> FlannelKing: why do you say that Azureus isn't open source?  It is, I think.
[08:03] <FlannelKing> Azureus is, Suns Java Isnt
[08:03] <TheRaginAsian> Places>Home, then Go, then "CD/DVD Creator"
[08:03] <Madpilot> dooglus: but Sun Java isn't
[08:03] <boedi> is it as easy as click and drag?
[08:03] <rosendahl_> boedi, I'm new aswell, the most helpfull website I've found is linuxcommand.org ... It will teach you how to use the shell, wich is much more nifty than I first anticipated ;)
[08:03] <TheRaginAsian> boedi
[08:03] <TheRaginAsian> yep
[08:04] <boedi> yes
[08:04] <TheRaginAsian> open another window and drag and drop
[08:04] <dooglus> Madpilot: that's true enough
[08:04] <boedi> just like usual on windows is it ...
[08:04] <Madpilot> boedi: then you drag & drop into that 'burn' window - click the "Write To Disc" button after you're done
[08:05] <xcm> kde is listed under ubuntu packages, so what's kubuntu?
[08:05] <FlannelKing> kubuntu is ubuntu - gnome + kde
[08:06] <irvin> xcm: it's because you can use both gnome and kde
[08:06] <xcm> but i mean ubuntu has both, so why wouldn't you just use it?
[08:07] <eobanb> xcm, i dont get what you're saying
[08:07] <johnblackhorse> xcm: kde is just a small subset of the packages in kubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <dooglus> xcm: kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that depends on a whole bunch of KDE stuff
[08:07] <boedi> hmmm i was thinking upgrading my comp from athlon xp to amd 64 bit
[08:07] <boedi> so is ubuntu support 64bit?
[08:07] <johnblackhorse> xcm: installing just "kde" onto a base install will get you just basic KDE apps, but instaling kubuntu will get you a full featured kde desktop system
[08:08] <xcm> so if i install ubuntu, will it have all the kde stuff?
[08:08] <Madpilot> boedi: it does, yes
[08:08] <johnblackhorse> xcm: you'll have to install "kubuntu-desktop" package
[08:08] <dooglus> boedi: kind of.  lots of people seem to have problems with 64bit - lots of packages don't work, apparently
[08:08] <TheRaginAsian> boedi: depending on your level of experience however, you may want to use standard Ubuntu on 64-bit
[08:08] <TheRaginAsian> its the same as with Windows X64
[08:08] <xcm> ohh ok, so ubuntu has the packages you just have to unstall them?
[08:08] <xcm> install*
[08:09] <TheRaginAsian> you can have a 64-bit optimised OS at the cost of compatibility with your favorite programs
[08:09] <TheRaginAsian> just depending on what you want to do
[08:09] <johnblackhorse> xcm: yes, for kubuntu and xubuntu
[08:09] <boedi> ooo
[08:09] <johnblackhorse> !xubuntu
[08:09] <ubotflu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:09] <FlannelKing> or you can download the kubuntu CD
[08:09] <boedi> but i read some magz... there stilll not so much software that run on 64 bit ye  was it true??
[08:09] <xcm> ok thanks
[08:10] <eobanb> boedi, that is partially true....basically all Free software runs just fine.
[08:10] <boedi> hmmm so waht is xcm talking just now? next level of ubuntu?
[08:10] <eobanb> but you could have problems with say, binary drivers from nvidia.
[08:10] <boedi> eee.... but it can be solve by dl the new driver from nvidia wasn't it
[08:11] <JonasNorman> boedi: i believe for programs to take advantage of 64 bit processing they need to be written for that
[08:11] <boedi> but if use 64bit... will my games work properly again
[08:11] <AnonymousHive> So... I've decided that for my needs, Ubuntu > Debian
[08:11] <eobanb> boedi, i don't know, it depends on the software
[08:11] <eobanb> AnonymousHive, good for you.
[08:11] <boedi> wow... so it seems like i'm gambling here :(
[08:11] <boedi> take it or leave it hahaha
[08:11] <JonasNorman> boedi, 64 bit in reguards to the cpu mean that the cpu can access 64bits of data from ram per cycle
[08:12] <eobanb> boedi, you always have the option of just using the 32-bit version instead
[08:12] <JonasNorman> boedi, but unless your fav programs support these instructions
[08:12] <boedi> ooo ok
[08:12] <johnblackhorse> boedi: if you want flash, audio and video, the amd64 arch is not a good choice
[08:12] <HappyFool> boedi: make a list of software you want to use and either ask us, or use google to find out if they're supported on amd64
[08:12] <boedi> how bout something call dual core... was it only available on 64 bit procce?
[08:13] <JonasNorman> boedi, i think the only things you'll be doing in 64 bit is basic os stuff, like opening menu's at 64bits lol
[08:13] <johnblackhorse> boedi: there are SMP kernels for all procs, not just the 64bit ones
[08:13] <uphiet> hi
[08:13] <uscfan> hey everyone!
[08:13] <uscfan> is there any way to play wmv movies in linux?
[08:13] <JonasNorman> yeah now smp and duel core
[08:13] <johnblackhorse> ubotflu: tell uscfan about w32codecs
[08:13] <Tomcat_> !tell uscfan about restrictedformats
[08:13] <eobanb> !restricted
[08:13] <JonasNorman> there you can have performance
[08:13] <ubotflu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:13] <fishfillet> uscfan: install w43codecs
[08:13] <Indestructible> who speack french svp for help
[08:13] <fishfillet> w32 :)
[08:13] <johnblackhorse> !fr
[08:13] <ubotflu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:14] <KaRupT> Does Ubutu have anything supported for connecting an Ipod?
[08:14] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: use gtkpod
[08:14] <Indestructible> meri
[08:14] <eobanb> !gtkpod
[08:14] <ubotflu> eobanb: No idea
[08:14] <uphiet> aloooo
[08:14] <joedj> does ubuntu have an /etc/rc.boot/ equivalent?
[08:14] <HappyFool> joedj: /etc/init.d/boostmisc.sh maybe ?
[08:14] <eobanb> ubotflu, gtkpod is a graphical program for managing songs on the Apple iPod
[08:14] <ubotflu> okay, eobanb
[08:14] <eobanb> !gtkpod
[08:14] <ubotflu> I don't know, eobanb
[08:14] <eobanb> ....
[08:14] <joedj> HappyFool: i want an appropriate place to put startup ipchains scripts
[08:14] <johnblackhorse> eobanb: ubotflu is read only
[08:15] <johnblackhorse> eobanb: it's a backup of ubotu
[08:15] <Tomcat_> joedj: You using pppd?
[08:15] <eobanb> ubotu was working fine just like, yesterday
[08:15] <boedi> !restricted
[08:15] <ubotflu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:15] <joedj> Tomcat_: no, LAN
[08:15] <johnblackhorse> eobanb: ubotu is on a server that is being targetted by DDOS children
[08:15] <joedj> sorry, iptables (living in the past)
[08:15] <boedi> !freeformats
[08:15] <ubotflu> it has been said that freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:15] <poningru> linuxboy: still around?
[08:15] <Tomcat_> joedj: Okay, because in that case you could've used /etc/ppp/ip-up.d ;)
[08:15] <eobanb> johnblackhorse, yeah i heard about that
[08:15] <johnblackhorse> ubotflu: tell boedi about msg the bot
[08:15] <poningru> take a look at sancho
[08:15] <poningru> http://sancho-gui.sourceforge.net
[08:15] <HappyFool> joedj: hmm. i'm not sure -- maybe in a ifup script in /etc/network ? check 'man interfaces' for more
[08:16] <joedj> ya, i can probably use /etc/network/if-up.d
[08:16] <linuxboy> poningru: yeah
[08:16] <FlannelKing> Alright, people, what on earth is the magic command for making mod_perl work?
[08:16] <KaRupT> !tell Karupt repositories
[08:16] <Tomcat_> joedj: Apart from that... put it in /etc/init.d/ and then run update-rc.d, giving it a really high number.
[08:16] <linuxboy> poningru: I'm using the standard ubuntu bittorrent client. Its working fine
[08:16] <eobanb> FlannelKing, i assume you restarted apache?
[08:16] <KaRupT> !tell KaRupT about repositories
[08:16] <FlannelKing> eobanb, yeah, 8000 times in the past 5 hours.
[08:16] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: see your PMs, dude.
[08:17] <eobanb> FlannelKing, what's the exact directive you wrote in your httpd.conf
[08:17] <GURT> ubotflu: tell me about w32codecs
[08:17] <poningru> linuxboy: obviously its working fine
[08:17] <GURT> arg
[08:17] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, I did, i need to find the page with the sources.list maker
[08:17] <poningru> linuxboy: me is feeling a bit adventurous
[08:17] <johnblackhorse> ubotflu: tell KaRupT about sources
[08:17] <KaRupT> the bot knows
[08:18] <SweetestSavage> How do I stop the x-server?
[08:18] <FlannelKing> didn't do it in httpd.conf, did it inperl.conf, <Directory /var/www> \n Options +ExecCGI \n </Directory \n AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl
[08:18] <linuxboy> poningru: ok
[08:18] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, thats not its trigger
[08:18] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: the bot is down, atm
[08:18] <uphiet> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:18] <KaRupT> its repositories
[08:18] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: it's missing info
[08:18] <rickest> SweetestSavage: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:19] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, no i just got it from him earlier
[08:19] <dooglus> joedj: you can put iptables configuration lines in /etc/network/interfaces - in the "iface eth0" block, put "pre-up /sbin/iptables <arguments>" lines
[08:19] <uscfan> what do i need to apt-get in order to play wmv movies...
[08:19] <that_weasel> irvin: you still around?
[08:19] <JonasNorman> !w32codecs
[08:19] <uscfan> this damn site isnt loading on the ubuntu wiki
[08:19] <SweetestSavage> Thanks rickest
[08:19] <joedj> yeah, that'll work
[08:19] <FlannelKing> eobanb, you get that? forgot the prefix
[08:19] <irvin> that_weasel: yes
[08:20] <JonasNorman> !w32codecs
[08:20] <JonasNorman> oh wait i put that already
[08:20] <eobanb> FlannelKing, you might try #apache or #perl
[08:20] <that_weasel> keep getting this libcurl3-gnutls dep issue...know anything about it?
[08:20] <FlannelKing> Ive tried apache, no one there, I guess Ill try perl.
[08:20] <joedj> dooglus: i can put it indented under the "iface lo inet loopback", right? the iptables rules relate to lo
[08:21] <dooglus> joedj: I believe so.  I use a "pre-up" line indented there.  I don't know if the indentation serves any purpose other than looking nice though.
[08:21] <shadox> goodmorning everyone
[08:22] <uscfan> ok the w32codecs .deb file online is missing... :(
[08:22] <that_weasel> irvin: keep getting this libcurl3-gnutls dep issue...know anything about it?
[08:22] <shadox> uscfan, think i can help you out
[08:22] <phiqtion> UBUNTU ROCKS
[08:23] <johnblackhorse> uscfan: which one? the one from the wiki or the one from the factoid?
[08:23] <dooglus> phiqtion: I say "wobbles" more than "rocks".
[08:23] <shadox> uscfan, i had an index site where you could pick the w32codes rather .deb or .tar.gz
[08:23] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, okay.. I'm trying to update my nVidia GeForce FX 5200 drivers..
[08:23] <uscfan> from the wiki
[08:23] <SweetestSavage> I downloaded the driver package off of the nVidia website
[08:23] <SweetestSavage> It tells me to use sh packagename, and so I do..
[08:23] <SweetestSavage> And it tells me that my kernel interface doesn't match my kernel
[08:23] <uscfan> shadox, ...
[08:23] <SweetestSavage> So then it says it will find one.. fails to do that, then it says it must compile a kernel.
[08:23] <uscfan> :|
[08:24] <SweetestSavage> It also fails to do that, something about the CC environment
[08:24] <shadox> i'll search
[08:24] <HappyFool> SweetestSavage: you need the linux-headers-386 (or -686, or whatever) package, and gcc-3.4
[08:24] <shadox> one moment please :)
[08:24] <SweetestSavage> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386 I assume?
[08:24] <rickest> SweetestSavage: and build-essential is helpful
[08:25] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, then, when you run the file you downloaded from nvidia, put CC=gcc-3.4 at the beginning
[08:25] <johnblackhorse> uscfan: copy the URL from the wike and paste it into your browser. take off the w32*-deb part
[08:25] <HappyFool> SweetestSavage: yip. check what kernel you're runnnig with uname -r
[08:25] <uscfan> sweet
[08:25] <SweetestSavage> Okay, one second
[08:25] <FlannelKing> Alright guys, simpler question, what's the magic trick to get Options ExecCGI turned on with default apache2 config files? (is there some overriding -NoExecCGI thing somewhere?)
[08:25] <SweetestSavage> How do I go back to the terminal (I'm in CLI) without exitting irssi?
[08:25] <uscfan> johnnblackhorse: dont get what your talkin about
[08:25] <HappyFool> SweetestSavage: uname -r should print '2.6.12-???-386'
[08:26] <HappyFool> SweetestSavage: Ctrl-Alt-F2 (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get back here)
[08:26] <eobanb> alt-control-F1 (or F2, or F3, etc)
[08:26] <pacino> hi
[08:26] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: make a new tab using control-shift-t?
[08:26] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thanks very much
[08:26] <HappyFool> in cli it's just Alt-F2 etc, i guess
[08:26] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: depending on whether you're in a gnome-terminal or a virtual console...
[08:26] <HappyFool> and use screen!
[08:26] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I'm in CLI
[08:27] <eobanb> dooglus, i think we can assume he's in a framebuffer console; the nvidia driver installer requires X to not be running
[08:27] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: CLI just means "command line interface", as in "shell".  both gnome-terminal and virtual consoles are CLIs
[08:27] <eobanb> yeah
[08:27] <sjb34> Hi. How do I change the default window manager for only my user?
[08:27] <SweetestSavage> Oh.
[08:27] <SweetestSavage> Well, I was in GNOME, but I closed that.. I'm just in pure-CLI.
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Network setup/boot question:
[08:27] <shadox> uscfan, just another moment :D
[08:27] <dooglus> sjb34: see the 'session' menu in the gdm login screen?  select it there, and gdm will ask you if you want to change the default
[08:28] <johnblackhorse> uscfan: the link may have gotten dated, but the file you need will be in the directory that the URL links to
[08:28] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, do you know the URL?
[08:28] <SweetestSavage> Okay, my kernel is 2.6.12-10.amd64-k8
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> At school I have an always-on, always-connected DSL line, at home, dialup.
[08:28] <uscfan> i found the file in the dir
[08:28] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: it's on the restricted formats wiki
[08:28] <uscfan> but firefox just continues to say
[08:28] <Netslayer> where can i go to disable a startup (boot) service?
[08:28] <uscfan> starting...
[08:28] <uscfan> when downloading
[08:28] <uscfan> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> I just set up the dialup interface, since I'm at home, and noticed that it dialed in while I was booting up.
[08:28] <SweetestSavage> With 2.6.12-10.amd64-k8 kernel should I get the linux-headers-386 package ?
[08:28] <uscfan> tell me if any of you can dload the deb file
[08:28] <uscfan> for some reason i cant
[08:29] <dooglus> Netslayer: I like 'sysv-rc-conf' for configuring boot-time stuff
[08:29] <SweetestSavage> Sorry if I'm asking such newbish questions.. first time on Linux
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> How can I make only the ethernet connection start on boot, and not ppp?
[08:29] <sjb34> dooglus: Will that affect VNC too, or just local sessions?
[08:29] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, that's all right.  and no, that's not the one you want
[08:29] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, I have no clue where that is
[08:29] <shadox> uscfan, i got the site
[08:29] <eobanb> they were assuming you were on 32-bit x86
[08:29] <SweetestSavage> Alright, so which one would I want then?
[08:29] <Netslayer> dooglus, there's no sysv... command on my system
[08:29] <SweetestSavage> Oh, okay.
[08:29] <shadox> uscfan, yes i can download it :)
[08:29] <uscfan> shadox, w0ot
[08:29] <eobanb> you are running AMD64 ubuntu, SweetestSavage ?
[08:29] <SweetestSavage> Aye.
[08:29] <uscfan> HA!
[08:29] <SweetestSavage> I changed the kernel to a k8 one, though.
[08:29] <dooglus> sjb34: I don't know.  I don't think vnc has anything to do with gdm though, so probably not.
[08:29] <uscfan> im downloading it atm
[08:30] <shadox> euhm is it for i386 or ... ?
[08:30] <dooglus> Netslayer: you'll need to install it in synaptic
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to configure which network interfaces to try to start on boot?
[08:30] <uscfan> it must just be hellllla slow since im downloading lots on bittorrent right now ;)
[08:30] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, i'm unsure of the status of nvidia drivers for amd64..
[08:30] <dooglus> Netslayer: it's in the 'universe' repository
[08:30] <blah^> i got a laptop and its had XP on it, and its been running just fine. Windows can do remote sessions where you login and get to take control as if u are at the computer. Can someone tell me if i can do this with a windows machine in linux. If i cant i wont be using linux :( beucase i need some windows stuff...
[08:30] <SweetestSavage> Is there a possible way to find out?
[08:30] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, where is the restricted formats wiki?
[08:30] <eobanb> blah^, yes you can do that.
[08:30] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: uscfan: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[08:30] <rickest> tonyyarusso: man interfaces   look for the 'auto' command
[08:31] <uscfan> thanks for that link dawg
[08:31] <blah^> eobanb thanx
[08:31] <rickest> blah^: yes, there is an 'rdesktop' for linux-to-win, but you're probably better off with http://tightvnc.org
[08:31] <rickest> blah^: which works linux <-> windows seamlessly
[08:31] <eobanb> ^--what rickest said :)
[08:31] <KaRupT> wow johnblackhorse the sources.list generator is a java app or php app, on a Ubuntu webpage not a deb wtf
[08:32] <shadox> uscfan, do you got a working one, or should i post you mine?
[08:32] <SweetestSavage> eobanb, I'm assuming trying to install the drivers then would be unsafe?
[08:32] <uscfan> can i give you guys a scenario, and then you can give me a possible solution?
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> rickest: Thanks.
[08:32] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: that is an ubuntu devs webpage, not 'official'
[08:32] <rickest> tonyyarusso: np, hopefully removing auto for the ppp interface will do the trick
[08:32] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, i dont know, i've only used PPC and 32-bit x86 ubuntu
[08:32] <SweetestSavage> Ah, I see.
[08:33] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, you linked me to a buncha debs
[08:33] <SweetestSavage> Well my processor is an AMD Athlon 64-bit 2800+
[08:33] <uscfan> i have a linux server and develop my webpages on a windows laptop. the server is on one network, and the laptop is on another. Without putting the laptop on the same network, how can i create some sort of system so that i can map the server drive to my laptop so i can just save files as if i was local?
[08:33] <johnblackhorse> KaRupT: what wiki page do you want? the restricted one is /msg ubotflu restricted
[08:34] <eobanb> uscfan, it depends on what sort of services the server is running.  if it has ftp, webdav, nfs, cifs, etc., then you should be able to do that just fine
[08:34] <eobanb> uscfan, does your linux server have something like webdav or cifs or nfs running on it?
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> rickest: Does this file know anything about the location profiles that the GUI has?  Also, if I set up ppp, can I then access that configuration with wvdial?
[08:34] <dooglus> uscfan: I guess you want to run samba on the server to share a network drive
[08:34] <shadox> euhm, guess your laptop is ntfs, linux can't write ntfs, only read, or did i misunderstand that part of your question?
[08:34] <rickest> uscfan: set up samba server on the linux box, connect to it from win
[08:34] <uscfan> eobanb, i dont know what webdav is
[08:35] <steve_> hey all, how can I enable dma on my cdrom when booting a live cd?
[08:35] <uscfan> can samba work accross the internet
[08:35] <rickest> tonyyarusso: sorry I don't know, haven't done ppp in ubuntu
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> rickest: Okay.
[08:35] <uscfan> like instead of locally in a lan
[08:35] <uscfan> im not on the same lan as the server, thats the problem
[08:35] <KaRupT> johnblackhorse, dude im talking about Source-o-Matic  and yes its official
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone else know the answer to my previous questions to rickest?
[08:35] <eobanb> uscfan, yes samba can work across the internet
[08:36] <uscfan> oh leetsauce, so i can just setup samba and then it will work
[08:36] <uscfan> w0ot, never knew I could do that
[08:36] <rickest> uscfan: look up editing your lmhosts file on your win box
[08:36] <joedj> tonyyarusso: how'd you go with the network/cable thing?
[08:36] <eobanb> i dont see why not, uscfan
[08:36] <uscfan> what is the diff between nfs and samba
[08:36] <rickest> uscfan: to map samba across internet
[08:36] <paulproteus|lapt> steve_: hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> joedj: Haven't had a chance to try it yet; just got home.
[08:37] <rickest> uscfan: different protocols, nfs is more robust and cross-platform
[08:37] <steve_> paulproteus,  thanks a lot!
[08:38] <spanglesontoast> erm has anyone got a fix for broken repos?
[08:38] <steve_> paulproteus, wait... so at the boot option, I just enter: live hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom?
[08:38] <uscfan> can i use nfs as opposed to samba over the internet?
[08:38] <dooglus> is there a free nfs client for windows though, which can mount a drive remotely?
[08:38] <SweetestSavage> Alright so, does anyone know what kind of support nVidia has for AMD64 drivers?
[08:38] <joedj> SweetestSavage: i'm running the nvidia non-free binary drivers on an AMD64 box, no probs
[08:38] <blah^> my new mouse (microsoft one) has a software thing so when i press a button on it i get a zoom box that i can resize and zoom in and out of. Is there a linux equivilent of this yet?
[08:38] <SweetestSavage> Alright.
[08:38] <uscfan> i thought you didnt need an "nfs client", doesnt windows just do that itself?
[08:38] <SweetestSavage> Thanks
[08:39] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, i guess it'll work then :)
[08:39] <rickest> samba vs nfs: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2000-June/019414.html
[08:39] <rickest> uscfan: no, it sounds like you're thinking of samba, NOT nfs
[08:39] <dooglus> uscfan: windows has cifs/smb built in, but nfs?  I don't think so
[08:39] <uscfan> mmk
[08:39] <uscfan> well then i will just use samba
[08:39] <uscfan> it should serve my purposes
[08:40] <uscfan> ok all
[08:40] <uscfan> i will work on that and talk to you later
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> rickest: In your answer to blah^, you said the second worked "seamlessly"; what was wrong with the first option?  (Never tried that sort of thing, but it sounds cool.)
[08:40] <dooglus> I don't know how secure the cifs/smb protocol is.  does it send everything in plain text?  what about the passwords?
[08:40] <uscfan> thanks for all your help
[08:41] <asfra> Hi, i want to have a separate partition for my music&movie-files. Where should I put it? /music&movies or home/myname/music&movies?
[08:41] <eobanb> asfra, for one, i wouldnt use an ampersand in a directory name, but that's just me :P
[08:42] <dooglus> asfra: the '&' sign will be annoying...  & marks the end of a command, so you'll have to quote or escape it
[08:42] <blah^> asfra i usualy put that stuff in /var/storage/ (but thats just me)
[08:42] <SweetestSavage> joedj, which linux-headers are you using?
[08:42] <eobanb> as for the mount point, it doesnt really matter.  in ubuntu, /media/ is the directory of choice
[08:43] <asfra> eobanb, yeah, the & was just an example :) but was is most convenient when i dont want to loose my music and movies next time I install a new base-system?
[08:43] <shadox> i'm configuring my wifi, following the wikipages, but at the first command line i'm getting stuck
[08:43] <shadox> can someone help me out?
[08:43] <asfra> is it prietty indifferent?
[08:43] <eobanb> asfra, as long as it's a different partition it doesnt really matter much
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> asfra: I have two separate ones, /music and /movies; worth considering for your & issue.
[08:43] <Madpilot> asfra: you can mount partitions/drives into your home directory too...
[08:44] <eobanb> i'd mount it to /media/ and then maybe have a symlink to it from your home folder
[08:44] <dooglus> asfra: so long as its own a separate partition it doesn't matter where you mount it - it will be safe when you switch to a different install
[08:44] <asfra> Thank you all!
[08:45] <blah^> asfra /media is a good one /var is for variable (where data that varys goes) thats why i used to do /var/storage then /var/storage/archive for 1 hdd then /var/storage/dump for another and /var/storage/downoads.. it doesnt really matter, personal preference as long as you use common sense
[08:45] <SweetestSavage> Which linux-header package would I need for an AMD64-bit Athlon 2800+?
[08:45] <spanglesontoast> anyone know how I can fix my repo list before I break something?
[08:45] <shadox> can someone explain me the fishfoot part of configuring wifi?
[08:45] <crimsun_> SweetestSavage: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:45] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thank you
[08:45] <eobanb> or linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:46] <SweetestSavage> Minus the version number of course ;)
[08:46] <eobanb> ?
[08:46] <SweetestSavage> Well, in the package name
[08:46] <crimsun_> no, that's literal
[08:46] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, i think you misunderstand
[08:46] <SweetestSavage> No no, I got it
[08:46] <blah^> can someone tell me a little about "ubuntus flight, 601" should i install that onto my laptop after i have finished backing up or should i stick with 5.10
[08:46] <eobanb> the headers have to be for the exact version of the kernel that you have
[08:47] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: here's my sources.list - it's short and sweet, but it works well: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5906
[08:47] <spanglesontoast> cheers man
[08:47] <spanglesontoast> saved my life
[08:47] <irvin> blah^: flight releases are not yet stable
[08:47] <SweetestSavage> But the package isn't named linux-headers-2.6.12-10.amd64-k8
[08:47] <Madpilot> blah^: stick with 5.10
[08:47] <SweetestSavage> Oh, heh so it is.
[08:48] <SweetestSavage> Okay nevermind me then ;)
[08:48] <eobanb> blah^, 5.10 is the latest stable version
[08:48] <blah^> Madpilot will do
[08:48] <irvin> blah^: but if you want to help out in testing you can install it just make sure you have your data backed up first
[08:48] <blah^> are the new features worth the risk
[08:48] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: to tell the truth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5907 is my real sources.list, but if you never install source code the first one is better
[08:48] <blah^> and the time
[08:48] <eobanb> blah^, for a casual user, it is generally not worth it to install dapper yet.
[08:49] <eobanb> it'll have some nice cool new features (broadcom wifi support is planned), but i'd just wait.
[08:49] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[08:49] <blah^> yeah ill pass then, i want something kinda stable as i use my laptop for stuff i want secure
[08:49] <spanglesontoast> I'm just wondering why I cannot downloading anything
[08:49] <spanglesontoast> it's like forzen
[08:50] <web> hi
[08:50] <eobanb> hello.
[08:50] <web> what group do I need so get my user into so I can use 'startx -- :1'?
[08:50] <dooglus> dapper has a new version of the gnome window manager where there's a big of 'resistance' when windows bump against each other or the edge of the screen.  that's quite nice.
[08:50] <Corrupter> is there any way to program VB.net in Linux?
[08:51] <Madpilot> cool - FileZilla is going to have a Linux port - we'll finally get a usable FTP client!
[08:51] <eobanb> Corrupter, you may want to look into Mono for anything .net
[08:51] <irvin> web: try the one you're using now
[08:51] <spanglesontoast> are some of the repos down dooglus
[08:51] <irvin> web: startx
[08:51] <web> irvin: not working..X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[08:51] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: at archive.ubuntu.com you mean?  or mirrors?
[08:51] <jacctags> testing
[08:51] <spanglesontoast> well it's just when I try downloading anything off the repos
[08:51] <Corrupter> whats mono?
[08:51] <eobanb> web, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:51] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: archive.ubuntu.com seems fine to me
[08:51] <spanglesontoast> it's kinda dead
[08:52] <irvin> web: was X working before?
[08:52] <jacctags> i need help
[08:52] <eobanb> Corrupter, mono is an open-source compiler and virtual machine for microsoft .net (including C# and VB.NET)
[08:52] <mrkoje> How can I add a directory into my $path file?
[08:52] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: try visiting http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with a web browser.  can you get there?
[08:52] <web> eobanb: I use kdm... but I want to have a second session that reads .xinitrc, no DM involved here
[08:52] <Corrupter> and where can i get it?
[08:52] <dooglus> mrkoje: the default PATH is set in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:52] <spanglesontoast> yup
[08:53] <dooglus> mrkoje: you could add to it in your ~/.gnomerc
[08:53] <mrkoje> dooglus,  thanks
[08:53] <dooglus> mrkoje: add something like:    PATH="/my/new/path:$PATH" to ~/.gnomerc
[08:53] <eobanb> spanglesontoast, can you be more specific, how is it 'dead'
[08:54] <Corrupter> eobanb: where can i get the VB mono app?
[08:54] <spanglesontoast> it's like not actually downloading in synaptic
[08:54] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: so it's not dead then...
[08:54] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: try running "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal
[08:54] <uscfan> ok i got the deb file and ran the command 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb' but it gives an error
[08:54] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: you get a little more feedback that way
[08:54] <spanglesontoast> ok
[08:54] <Netslayer> how do i get kde 3.5 in ubuntu? when i open up synaptic, search for kde (kubuntu) the 3.4.3 is the only available one
[08:54] <_jason> uscfan, want to tell us the error?
[08:55] <uscfan> can i paste it in here, or will the irc gods kill me
[08:55] <crimsun_> Netslayer: see #kubuntu
[08:55] <crimsun_> uscfan: use a pastebin
[08:55] <spanglesontoast> it's just stuck
[08:55] <eobanb> !pastebin
[08:55] <ubotflu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:55] <_jason> uscfan, if it's a line or two it's ok
[08:55] <spanglesontoast> on 0% waiting for headers
[08:55] <eobanb> Corrupter, it's all in the repository
[08:55] <eobanb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/interpreters/mono
[08:55] <uscfan> http://pastebin.com/469843
[08:55] <Corrupter> eobanb: do you know what the terminal command to get it is?
[08:56] <dooglus> Corrupter: sudo apt-get install mono
[08:56] <spanglesontoast> 0% [Waiting for headers]  just stuck there
[08:56] <eobanb> you will probably also want mono-devel
[08:56] <dooglus> Corrupter: or whatever the package is called...
[08:56] <irvin> spanglesontoast: which mirror is set on your sources.list?
[08:56] <Corrupter> and mono will install the VB compiler?
[08:57] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: do you use a proxy for HTTP connections?
[08:57] <spanglesontoast> erm
[08:57] <spanglesontoast> it's going through my lan
[08:57] <spanglesontoast> but nothing is blocked
[08:57] <spanglesontoast> I took down the firewall just to be on the safeside
[08:57] <spanglesontoast> but still got problems
[08:57] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, okay I tried running the nVidia install package, and well, it still tells me that it cannot find gcc-compile-something.c, and that it can't compile a kernel.
[08:57] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: what browser do you use?
[08:57] <_jason> uscfan, was about to suggest that to you
[08:57] <spanglesontoast> firefox
[08:57] <uscfan> ;)
[08:57] <SweetestSavage> I put CC=gc-3.4 sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-packagename.run
[08:58] <crimsun_> SweetestSavage: did you follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[08:58] <SweetestSavage> No.
[08:58] <shadox> can someone tell me how to install my w32codecs.deb? cuz it doesn't work by using sudo apt-get install
[08:58] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: look in edit->prefs->general->connection-settings->proxies.  anything set up there?
[08:58] <crimsun_> SweetestSavage: you should follow that instead if you don't require the latest drivers.
[08:58] <uscfan> can someone explain why these codecs are 'restricted'
[08:58] <SweetestSavage> Okay
[08:58] <dooglus> shadox: "sudo dpkg -i w32*.deb"
[08:58] <shadox> uscfan, restricted?
[08:58] <SweetestSavage> Thanks for your help =)
[08:59] <uenyioha> are there glimpse packages for ubuntu
[08:59] <uenyioha> ?
[08:59] <spanglesontoast> says direct connection
[08:59] <shadox> dooglus, thnx i'll give it a shot
[08:59] <uscfan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[08:59] <uenyioha> when i do an aptitude search i see it
[08:59] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: ok.  sometimes that's a cause for apt-get and synaptic not working - but not in this case.
[08:59] <_jason> uscfan, they aren't legal in every country
[08:59] <uenyioha> but i cant do an install even when i type the package name correctly
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[09:00] <blah^> my laptop that i will be setting up has a intel video card all i know is its dx8 and 128mb will i need to manualy configure this at all. i have configured ati cards before but not intel. will it be ok?
[09:00] <uscfan> i redownloaded and the deb still wont install
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> if I try installing one package on it's own
[09:00] <benplaut> What do ya'll recommend for working with SVGs with 15-20 overlapping objects? without a layer panel in inkscape, it's extremely cumbersome
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> it works
[09:00] <Madpilot> uscfan: those formats are patent-encumbered - mp3 and the like
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> but I cannot install lots of packages
[09:00] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: what if you "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/Release.gpg" ?
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> weird
[09:00] <dooglus> spanglesontoast: that is strange.
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> done
[09:00] <Corrupter> is mono all textual?
[09:00] <Madpilot> benplaut: you do know about the layer chooser in the bottommost section of Inkscape's window?
[09:00] <_jason> uscfan, where are you downloading from?
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> how do i import the gpg key
[09:00] <spanglesontoast> ?
[09:01] <uscfan> from the site on the wiki entry
[09:01] <shadox> dooglus, it didn't work, it said "can't reach the archive, unexisting map" :s
[09:01] <Corrupter> eobanb: is mono all textual or is there a GUI?
[09:01] <benplaut> Madpilot: there's a big difference between objects and layers, and when editing an SVG made by somebody else, there... are no layers
[09:01] <dooglus> shadox: maybe the download failed?
[09:02] <Madpilot> benplaut: if the other person uses Inkscape too, and saves in "Inkscape SVG" format, the layers are preserved
[09:02] <_jason> uscfan, do: md5sum w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb, and paste the result here
[09:02] <benplaut> Madpilot: aye, but most don't ;)
[09:02] <SweetestSavage> God, Linux is so awesome. =D
[09:02] <shadox> dooglus, no impossible, the file is like 2 day's on my notebook, i didn't got errors during the download
[09:02] <SweetestSavage> Sooo customizable.
[09:02] <benplaut> it kills me that Sodipodi doesn't have a layer panel, either :(
[09:02] <uscfan> roger roger
[09:02] <dooglus> shadox: how big is it?
[09:02] <blah^> my laptop that i will be setting up has a intel video card all i know is its dx8 and 128mb will i need to manualy configure this at all. i have configured ati cards before but not intel. will it be ok?
[09:02] <eobanb> Corrupter, there are GUIs available
[09:03] <uscfan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[09:03] <uscfan> oops
[09:03] <uscfan> michael@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ md5sum w32codecs_20050412-2.0_i386.deb
[09:03] <uscfan> d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e  w32codecs_20050412-2.0_i386.deb
[09:03] <shadox> dooglus 12.6 mb
[09:03] <laszlok> is there any difference between the xorg drivers "ati", "vesa", and "sdl"?
[09:03] <Madpilot> benplaut: file a bug w/ Inkscape - or ask on #inkscape; there's a lot of devel work happening to Inkscape these days
[09:03] <eobanb> laszlok, there is very much a difference :P
[09:03] <shadox> uscfan, h i'm using the same :d
[09:03] <shadox> uscfan, how did you installed it? :$
[09:03] <uscfan> hah well it seemed to work that time
[09:03] <uscfan> strange
[09:04] <uscfan> shadox: wut you mean
[09:04] <benplaut> Madpilot: they're completely against a layer panel... it's nuts!
[09:04] <shadox> uscfan, your w32codec
[09:04] <Corrupter> eobanb: where can i get them?
[09:04] <ardchoille> heh, gotta love nautilus scripts: http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot0py.jpg
[09:04] <eobanb> Corrupter, it's all in the repository
[09:04] <uscfan> shadox: afterinstalling, i ran the command 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'
[09:04] <laszlok> eobanb: i cant really tell, is it just 3d acceleration?
[09:05] <_jason> uscfan, are you sure the file had finished downloading when you were runnning the command?
[09:05] <SweetestSavage> Alright, I've got 4 partitions in total.. however 3 of them are inaccessible. How do I mount them?
[09:05] <shadox> uscfan afterinstalling? what exactly do i need to do?
[09:05] <Madpilot> benplaut: I guess they figure that the little layer popup is enough... SVG doesn't really support layers natively, the Inkscape "layers" are actually some sort of hackish thing anyway...
[09:05] <eobanb> Corrupter, use google or have a look at packages.ubuntu.com or look at mono-project.com
[09:05] <dooglus> shadox: did it really say "unexisting map"?  or is that your translation of what it said?
[09:05] <_jason> uscfan, because I get a different md5sum
[09:05] <Madpilot> !mount
[09:05] <ubotflu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:05] <SweetestSavage> Thank you!
[09:05] <benplaut> Madpilot: yeah... they need an object panel, regardless :(
[09:05] <shadox> dooglus euhm kind of my translation (a)
[09:05] <SweetestSavage> Linux is beginning to make more sense =)
[09:05] <benplaut> otoh
[09:06] <dooglus> shadox: I googled for the error message and didn't find it.  :)
[09:06] <benplaut> don't listen to me, i'm a long-time corel user babbling on :P
[09:06] <uscfan> _jason: shadox: the one i downloaded is working just fine now, it installed i would presume no errors
[09:06] <poningru_> jesus mary and joseph
[09:06] <poningru_> ktorrent is so much better
[09:06] <Madpilot> benplaut: an object listing panel would be nice-to-have
[09:06] <dooglus> shadox: are you cd'ed into the same directory as the .deb file?
[09:06] <uscfan> i still cant play the wmv files though, do i need to reboot, what video player should i use?
[09:06] <shadox> dooglus, cd?
[09:07] <_jason> uscfan, can you md5sum again and tell me if it's different, just to quench my curiousity please
[09:07] <_jason> uscfan, use totem-xine or mplayer
[09:07] <dooglus> shadox: in the terminal, type "cd Desktop" to go to your desktop for example, if that's where the downloaded .deb file is
[09:07] <shadox> dooglus, i just putted the file on my desktop
[09:07] <Madpilot> uscfan: totem or totem-xine
[09:07] <uscfan> well strangely enogh, i have 3 versions of the file on my desktop
[09:07] <wayde> hiya
[09:07] <shadox> dooglus, i'll give it a try
[09:07] <dooglus> shadox: terminals don't start in your desktop - you need to "cd Desktop" (with a capital 'D') to get there
[09:07] <uscfan> _jason: i will run the md5thing on all of em
[09:07] <dooglus> shadox: run "ls" to see the list of files in your current directory
[09:08] <shadox> dooglus like cd~/Desktop?
[09:08] <wayde> cd Desktop
[09:08] <boedi> yooo i just order some ubuntu cd to be shared with my friends
[09:08] <dooglus> shadox: space after "cd"
[09:08] <wayde> thats all u type m8
[09:08] <boedi> what i want to know
[09:08] <uscfan> michael@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ md5sum w32codecs_20050412-2.0_i386.deb
[09:08] <uscfan> 17bc6ae2eef0f25f9e20c6f9eeaff1d6  w32codecs_20050412-2.0_i386.deb
[09:08] <poningru_> I think I have seen the light of KDE
[09:08] <eobanb> boedi, they might take a while to get there :)
[09:08] <wayde> just cd /home/"your name"/Desktop
[09:08] <_jason> uscfan, yeah that one is right
[09:08] <dooglus> uscfan: I think he just wasn't in the right directory
[09:08] <boedi> where is it send from and what short of method they use to ship it?
[09:08] <eobanb> or cd ~/Desktop/
[09:09] <uscfan> michael@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ md5sum w32codecs_20050412-1.0_i386.deb
[09:09] <uscfan> 17bc6ae2eef0f25f9e20c6f9eeaff1d6  w32codecs_20050412-1.0_i386.de
[09:09] <wayde> yer or that
[09:09] <shadox> dooglus, i'm getting a bash error
[09:09] <dooglus> boedi: mine came from holland I think
[09:09] <dooglus> shadox: what one?
[09:09] <eobanb> boedi, i dont remember where they ship them from, i think it's from canonical's office in the UK somewhere
[09:09] <eobanb> they might come from more than one place.
[09:09] <dooglus> or maybe it was the isle of man or something?
[09:09] <shadox> dooglus, "bahs: cd: /desktop: unknown map"
[09:10] <Madpilot> boedi: they ship surface freight, or whatever's cheapest
[09:10] <dooglus> shadox: type "cd ~/Desktop" exactly.  case matters.
[09:10] <boedi> because i'm in Indonesia, and i am not often at home unless 6 pm...
[09:10] <wayde> shadox: try "cd ~/Desktop
[09:10] <dooglus> shadox: copy and paste if you know how
[09:10] <shadox> dooglus ,k i'll try again
[09:10] <boedi> so i need to know how they ship and i can ask some1 to receive it for me :)
[09:10] <wayde> shadox: yes, you need to type the corrext case
[09:10] <shadox> dooglus got it
[09:11] <shadox> dooglus "D"esktop :d
[09:11] <wayde> shadox are you new to linux?
[09:11] <shadox> wayde, yup :)
[09:11] <dooglus> shadox: you don't need to cd in fact.  just a simple "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/w32codec*.deb" will install it.
[09:11] <uscfan> totem-gstreamer? totem-xine? totem?
[09:11] <uscfan> differences?
[09:11] <uscfan> im installing totem-xine right now and its removing the gstreamer one
[09:12] <wayde> uscfan: why totem?
[09:12] <shadox> dooglus, k, but now i'm on my desktop, should i skip the ~/Desktop part now?
[09:12] <eobanb> gstreamer and xine are just two different back-ends
[09:12] <_jason> uscfan, one usese gstreamer the other xine, don't worry xine is better
[09:12] <eobanb> totem is just a GUI basically.
[09:12] <dooglus> shadox: it doesn't matter.  you can skip it if you like, but it will work either way.
[09:12] <uscfan> i have VLC and that doesnt work
[09:12] <shadox> ok
[09:12] <dooglus> shadox: if you miss out ~/Desktop, miss out the following / as well though
[09:12] <wayde> uscfan: VLC isnt working?
[09:12] <shadox> dooglus, than i'll try again
[09:12] <uscfan> nope
[09:13] <wayde> have you tried from a terminal?
[09:13] <wayde> to see the error?
[09:13] <shadox> dooglus erhm, now every line starts with a >
[09:13] <uscfan> both totem and vlc are nto working
[09:14] <wayde> oh wow
[09:14] <uscfan> maybe the w32codecs didnt install properly? do i need to reboot?
[09:14] <dooglus> shadox: that will be because you copied one of my quotes and not the other.  you shouldn't type the quotes (")
[09:14] <Madpilot> uscfan: you don't need to reboot Linux to get most apps running
[09:14] <dooglus> shadox: control-c will get you back to the $ prompt
[09:14] <uscfan> wayde: i presume i would run 'totem <filename>' or 'vlc <filename>'
[09:14] <uscfan> ???
[09:14] <shadox> dooglus, got i'm stupid :d
[09:14] <wayde> you could try downloading the w32codecs from the divX site, and putting them in your .vlc directory
[09:14] <dooglus> shadox: it's just tricky isn't it
[09:15] <SweetestSavage> In the terminal, how do I get from home to the file system?
[09:15] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: "cd /" ?
[09:15] <uscfan> cd /
[09:15] <wayde> yes i think so
[09:15] <benplaut> what they said
[09:15] <SweetestSavage> Thank you =)
[09:15] <Madpilot> !cli
[09:15] <ubotflu> it has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[09:15] <SweetestSavage> You guys are such great help, I'm new to Linux and this is really making it an easy transition from windows.
[09:16] <uscfan> ok
[09:16] <Madpilot> SweetestSavage: have a look at some of the URLs that the bot just posted ^^^
[09:16] <uscfan> vlc and totem dont show the w32codecs as a plugin
[09:16] <wayde> SweetestSavage: glad to help :)
[09:16] <uscfan> SweetestSavage, welcome to Linux!!
[09:16] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: "cd .." will take you "up" one step.  you can keep doing "cd .." until you reach the top
[09:16] <shadox> dooglus it didn't work
[09:16] <dooglus> shadox: what now?
[09:16] <uscfan> 'cd -' will take you to the last directory you were in
[09:16] <SweetestSavage> Hehe, yeah. I've used DOS before so I understand that much =)
[09:16] <shadox> dooglus the same error
[09:16] <uscfan> 'pwd' will list the directory you are in nwo
[09:16] <shadox> dooglus "unknow map"
[09:16] <SweetestSavage> I will bookmark that page you gave me
[09:17] <wayde> uscfan: have you tried downloading the w32codecs from the divX site, and putting them in your .vlc directory?
[09:17] <Viper12> the w32codecs need to be copied into the /usr/lib/win32 directory to work properly.
[09:17] <dooglus> shadox: what does "echo *.deb" tell you?
[09:17] <uscfan> wayde: no sir
[09:17] <shadox> dooglus, but i need to get to school now mayB i'll see you within a few hours
[09:17] <uscfan> i have to say this, the ubuntu irc channel is definitly the best out of all the linux distro irc channels
[09:17] <uscfan> ive tried nearly all of em over the years, i am totally addicted to ubuntu
[09:17] <_jason> uscfan, apt-cache policy w32codecs
[09:17] <wayde> uscfan: i think that might help. did you get them through apt-get?
[09:18] <shadox> dooglus thnQ for your help :)
[09:18] <uscfan> root@ubuntu:/home/michael# apt-cache policy w32codecs
[09:18] <uscfan> w32codecs:
[09:18] <uscfan>   Installed: 1:20050412-0.0
[09:18] <uscfan>   Candidate: 1:20050412-0.0
[09:18] <uscfan>   Version table:
[09:18] <shadox> later guy's
[09:18] <uscfan>  *** 1:20050412-0.0 0
[09:18] <dooglus> shadox: you're welcome.  bye :)
[09:18] <uscfan>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:18] <_jason> ack don't paste
[09:18] <dooglus> belgium man, belgium
[09:18] <Madpilot> for using wget, is the syntax just "wget <url>"
[09:18] <uscfan> wayde: i didnt use apt-get, it wasnt available. I dloaded the deb file
[09:18] <benplaut> anyone know of a good vector editor that can be emulated with the latest wine or cxoffice?
[09:18] <_jason> uscfan, how are you testing that the w32codecs don't work/
[09:19] <Madpilot> benplaut: Inkscape for Windows? :D
[09:19] <wayde> uscfan:  i think the last statement i made would work
[09:19] <wayde> uscfan: downloading the codecs from the divX site
[09:19] <Viper12> easiest way...period.....go to mplayer's site, get the essential codec pack.....and unzip em to /usr/lib/win32.  (if win32 doesn't exit, create it.)
[09:20] <wayde> yer or that
[09:20] <benplaut> Madpilot: hilarious :P
[09:20] <uscfan> wayde: yes im looking for those right now, cant find em
[09:20] <wayde> but he may have the other codecs instaled, therefore installing the others twice
[09:20] <wayde> uscfan: do you need a link?
[09:20] <SweetestSavage> Okay I get the error (while trying to run a program) that libvorbisfile.so.3 (shared library) is missing. Yet, when I ran sudo apt-get install libvorbisfile3, it said it was already installed. Any ideas?
[09:20] <uscfan> viper12: im looking for the ones on the mplayer site
[09:20] <_jason> thing is the deb will already put the w32codecs there, do 'ls /usr/lib/win32' to make sure uscfan
[09:20] <uscfan> wayde: im looking on divx too
[09:20] <uscfan> _jason: rgr rgr
[09:20] <Madpilot> benplaut: I try... :P
[09:21] <wayde> uscfan: try the mplayer site also
[09:21] <SweetestSavage> Do I place the libvorbisfile.so.3 in the same directory as the program I'm trying to execute?
[09:21] <uscfan> listing the files in /usr/lib/win32 gives me a lot of files
[09:21] <eobanb> benplaut, why do you want something non-native?
[09:21] <eobanb> benplaut, maybe look at inkscape?
[09:21] <_jason> uscfan, then you are good
[09:21] <benplaut> eobanb: 'cause none of the native ones fulfil my needs
[09:21] <uscfan> ok wlel then why arent my vid players playing the vids!?!
[09:21] <Viper12> which vid player? totem gstreamer?
[09:21] <SweetestSavage> !info libvorbisfile3
[09:22] <ubotflu> libvorbisfile3: (The Vorbis General Audio Compression Codec), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[09:22] <benplaut> eobanb: i've been messing with inkscape for the last few hours, and the lack of an object panel is... a deal breaker
[09:22] <wayde> uscfan: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[09:22] <_jason> uscfan, the latest wmv can't be played
[09:22] <spanglesontoast> I'm still wondering why synaptic is flaky
[09:22] <wayde> uscfan: and download the essential codecs package
[09:22] <spanglesontoast> I may have to dumb ubuntu and go back to suse
[09:22] <irvin> spanglesontoast: flaky?
[09:22] <spanglesontoast> yea it doesn't seem to work
[09:22] <irvin> spanglesontoast: how? what seems to be the problem?
[09:23] <spanglesontoast> I can't even reload the package lists
[09:23] <uscfan> wayde: _jason: I have all the files in my /usr/lib/win32/ directory, should i still download the essential codec pac? Also, I am not only having trouble with wmv's but avi's also
[09:23] <_jason> uscfan, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs
[09:23] <irvin> spanglesontoast: try cli instead
[09:23] <wayde> uscfan: i think you should download them, they may not have been correctly installed
[09:24] <uscfan> alrighty then
[09:24] <Viper12> if you're using totem-gstreamer, replace it with totem xine.  That solved all my vid/avi/wmv probs.
[09:24] <spanglesontoast> cli?
[09:24] <wayde> uscfan: it will work for the .avi's too
[09:24] <spanglesontoast> you when terminal?
[09:24] <spanglesontoast> mean
[09:24] <irvin> spanglesontoast: yup
[09:24] <spanglesontoast> yea I did
[09:24] <spanglesontoast> no luck on that either
[09:24] <uscfan> ahhhh i know what it is
[09:24] <irvin> spanglesontoast: what's the error?
[09:24] <SweetestSavage> Can anyone explain to me why, when I run a program it says libvorbisfile.so.3 cannot be opened because it isn't found.. yet, the package is installed?
[09:24] <uscfan> these videos are off a cd my friend gave me
[09:24] <spanglesontoast> it just gets stuck on
[09:24] <uscfan> i have no clue what they are
[09:25] <uscfan> i bet its pr0n with copy protection or something!!1
[09:25] <spanglesontoast> 0% [Waiting for headers]  just stuck there
[09:25] <uscfan> rofl
[09:25] <uscfan> because other wmv's on my hard disk are working fine
[09:25] <wayde> uscfan: that shouldnt be a problem
[09:25] <irvin> spanglesontoast: which mirror are you using?
[09:25] <uscfan> interesting
[09:25] <irvin> spanglesontoast: us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:25] <spanglesontoast> erm
[09:25] <spanglesontoast> hang on
[09:25] <wayde> uscfan: have you tried converting them into another format?
[09:25] <uscfan> no sir, how would i go about doing tha
[09:26] <wayde> you would need trancode for a start
[09:26] <Madpilot> need sleep... later, all
[09:26] <spanglesontoast> http://pastebin.com/469851
[09:26] <spanglesontoast> there we go
[09:26] <wayde> uscfan: installing mplayer should download transcode and everything else you should need to convert
[09:26] <uscfan> ugh ok apt-get install mplayer?
[09:27] <irvin> uscfan: yup
[09:27] <wayde> uscfan: but you can download them seperately without having mplayer installed, its just easier
[09:27] <uscfan> ghasp!
[09:27] <irvin> spanglesontoast: from which country are you?
[09:27] <uscfan> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[09:27] <spanglesontoast> uk
[09:27] <wayde> uscfan: sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> If I start a new login with Applications > System > New Login, can I switch back and forth between the two, and how?
[09:27] <uscfan> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[09:28] <uscfan> im guessing, as with yum on fedora, i have to add a list of places to get packages from for apt-get?
[09:28] <SweetestSavage> uscfan, try the Synaptic-Package-Manager
[09:28] <wayde> uscfan: have you uncommented your sources.list?
[09:28] <uscfan> wayde: see i knew it
[09:28] <uscfan> wayde: how do i do that
[09:28] <_jason> ubotflu, tell uscfan about repos
[09:28] <uscfan> lmao the bot to help noobies
[09:28] <_jason> ubotflu, tell uscfan about repositories
[09:28] <dooglus> I don't think they had spangles in any other country :)
[09:28] <_jason> wow this bot is worthless, one sec
[09:28] <uscfan> hahahahahahah
[09:28] <wayde> uscfan: sudo nano etc/apt/sources.list
[09:28] <uscfan> that is going on bash.org
[09:29] <wayde> uscfan: or you could do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: control-alt-f7 and control-alt-f8 (!)
[09:29] <_jason> uscfan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repos%29
[09:29] <irvin> spanglesontoast: try adding uk... uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <spanglesontoast> ok
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Thanks.
[09:30] <dooglus> uk.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com resolve to the same IP addresses
[09:30] <wayde> uscfan: ypu will need to add the multiverse repo's too if you want everything to work
[09:30] <SweetestSavage> Can anyone recommend a good media player (for music) that is close/similar to Winamp?
[09:30] <spanglesontoast> works thou
[09:30] <spanglesontoast> :P
[09:30] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: beep-media-player
[09:30] <wayde> SweetestSavage: XMMS
[09:30] <irvin> hahaha
[09:30] <SweetestSavage> Is there a website I could get with information on both?
[09:30] <spanglesontoast> ok it worked up to a point
[09:30] <uscfan> hrmm
[09:30] <spanglesontoast> it allowed me to reload
[09:30] <uscfan> i uncommented everyting maybe that was a bad idea
[09:31] <_jason> SweetestSavage, if you want a really nice feature-rich player, try amarok
[09:31] <spanglesontoast> but when i try installing any packages
[09:31] <spanglesontoast> it gets stuck
[09:31] <wayde> uscfan: in terminal do sudo apt-get update
[09:31] <_jason> uscfan, don't uncomment the actual comments :P
[09:31] <uscfan> mmkayy
[09:31] <irvin> SweetestSavage: you could use google to get to the website
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> I had to boot Windows earlier, and now my clocks all buggy.  Can someone help me reset it?  (I forget how.)
[09:31] <uscfan> i didnt uncomment comments
[09:31] <uscfan> i uncomment the repo lines
[09:31] <SweetestSavage> Well, I'm just looking for something like Winamp. Uses a playlist, loads fast, and loads songs in a multiple fashion.
[09:31] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thanks irvin.
[09:31] <FlannelKing> hey guys, anyone know of a howto for installing mod_perl?
[09:31] <wayde> uscfan: sudo apt-get update
[09:31] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: try beep-media-player.  it's derived from xmms, and copies winamp's design almost exactly
[09:31] <wayde> :)
[09:32] <uscfan> wayde: thanks for all your help bro
[09:32] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it even accepts winamp skins
[09:32] <SweetestSavage> Oh, that's excellent dooglus. Thanks very much.
[09:32] <wayde> uscfan: anytime mate
[09:32] <uscfan> jeebus
[09:32] <eobanb> SweetestSavage, xmms is pretty good though
[09:32] <uscfan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repos%29
[09:32] <uscfan> oopsie poopsie
[09:32] <uscfan> apt-get install mplayer-386
[09:32] <uscfan> Reading package lists... Done
[09:32] <uscfan> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:32] <uscfan> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[09:32] <wayde> uscfan: u got a msn addy or something?
[09:32] <SweetestSavage> I got another question, when I try to load a certain program it tells me that libvorbisfile.so.3 is missing, yet I have libvorbisfile3 installed. Any idea?
[09:32] <uscfan> gaim - aol instant messanger
[09:32] <wayde> uscfan: yes, add the multiverse repo's
[09:32] <uscfan> gtalk (i cant get gaim's jabber to work with it)
[09:32] <irvin> spanglesontoast: it works fine on my side... you're probably stuck in traffic :)
[09:32] <eobanb> uscfan, please dont flood..
[09:33] <uscfan> sorry eobanb
[09:33] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: is this a program which you installed from somewhere other than an official ubuntu repository?
[09:33] <wayde> uscfan: ill show you how
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> Yes dooglus
[09:33] <irvin> uscfan: sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> It was a package I downloaded from a website - it's a game compiled for Linux that I used to play on Windows.
[09:33] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: is it in the official repositories too?  if so, install it from there and it will work
[09:33] <uscfan> wayde: my aim username is whalensc5
[09:33] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what game?
[09:33] <wayde> uscfan: that wont work, you will need to add the multiverse repo's first
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> StepMania
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> It isn't on the official repo list
[09:34] <spanglesontoast> no way am I stuck in traffic man
[09:34] <spanglesontoast> I've left it on for a day like this
[09:34] <wayde> uscfan: i dont use aim... i use gtalk and msn
[09:34] <eobanb> why is beep better than xmms?
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> I did a search on the synap manager, and it didn't come up with anything.
[09:34] <irvin> uscfan: yes you have to enable multiverse repo
[09:34] <spanglesontoast> the maxium packages I can do
[09:34] <uscfan> wayde: my gtalk is whalesalad
[09:34] <spanglesontoast> is 4
[09:34] <spanglesontoast> then it gets fussy
[09:34] <uscfan> ok well ive heard this multiverse repo stuff from like 10 people so far, but i dont knoe what you all mean
[09:34] <wayde> uscfan: did u choose the right server?
[09:35] <uscfan> eh?
[09:35] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: hmmm, no I can't find it either.  there's "pydance", but not "stepmania"
[09:35] <irvin> what's the wiki link for adding repos?
[09:35] <wayde> uscfan: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> dooglus: Yeah, pydance is a much worse simulator, haha. Here, I'll link you to the website in which I retrieved the game.
[09:35] <irvin> !repository
[09:35] <ubotflu> irvin: Are you smoking crack?
[09:35] <irvin> !repositories
[09:35] <ubotflu> irvin: Are you smoking crack?
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> http://www.stepmania.com/stepmania/mediawiki.php?title=Downloads
[09:36] <irvin> !repos
[09:36] <ubotflu> irvin: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:36] <spanglesontoast> ubuntu used to be good it's hard to find things now
[09:36] <eobanb> !multiverse
[09:36] <ubotflu> see repositories
[09:36] <uscfan> ahh ok
[09:36] <uscfan> i heard somewhere to use port 5223
[09:36] <eobanb> !repositories
[09:36] <ubotflu> eobanb: I haven't a clue
[09:36] <uscfan> but its 5222, got it
[09:36] <eobanb> sigh....
[09:36] <wayde> uscfan: that will show you how... you need to connect to the right server
[09:36] <spanglesontoast> I only have two gpg keys
[09:36] <spanglesontoast> one for a cd
[09:36] <uscfan> ok wayde, i am on gtalk what is your username
[09:37] <spanglesontoast> and one for archive
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> dooglus: I just don't know why it asks for that library when the package for it is installed.
[09:37] <wayde> uscfan: thingamajiggy
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> Are they like DLL's, where you must place them in the same directory as the executable?
[09:37] <dkg> hi!
[09:37] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I'll give it a go.  which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:37] <dkg> where to get samba 3.0.20 for ubuntu?
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> 5.10 Breezy Badger
[09:37] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: no.  it should look in /usr/lib for you
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> Okay, I'll check if the file is there.
[09:37] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: ls -l /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> Ah
[09:38] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's a link, right?
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> That beats opening up the File Browser
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> Which are you referring to, dooglus?
[09:38] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I uninstalled the file browser - found I was never using it :)
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> Hehe
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> And, it found the file.
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I do agree the Terminal is much quicker.
[09:39] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you see a "->" on that line?
[09:39] <SweetestSavage> GUI is just for people who aren't good with commands.
[09:39] <wayde> uscfan: what is yours?
[09:39] <SweetestSavage> Yes I do
[09:39] <uscfan> wayde: i messaged you, its whalesalad
[09:39] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: so "ls -lL /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3" will follow the link and check that the file really exists
[09:39] <spanglesontoast> hmmm fedora I think....
[09:39] <wayde> uscfan i need to go eat now,  i will help you in bout 15 mins, sorry mate
[09:40] <uscfan> ok so when i run 'apt-get cache search mplayer' i get 2 results. one is w32codecs and one is mga-vid-source
[09:40] <SweetestSavage> Okay I typed that..
[09:40] <wayde> uscfan, i havnt got your message yet :S
[09:40] <SweetestSavage> It gives me..
[09:40] <uscfan> wayde: well go eat dude, i can wait
[09:40] <dooglus> the 27596 is the file's size
[09:40] <wayde> uscfan: thanks mate brb
[09:40] <SweetestSavage> Okay
[09:40] <SweetestSavage> And then the next is the last-used date?
[09:40] <uscfan> ok how do i enable the multiverse repositories
[09:41] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: last modified date.  if you want last accessed date, you "ls -lLu <filename>"
[09:41] <SweetestSavage> Ah okay.
[09:41] <SweetestSavage> Well, in any case it did find a result.
[09:41] <SweetestSavage> In the first command you gave me (-l) it had a -> libvorbisfile.so.3.1.0
[09:42] <SweetestSavage> Does that mean, that the file I was referring to is actually called libvorbisfile.so.3.1.0?
[09:42] <SweetestSavage> If so, that might explain why it can't find it.
[09:42] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: yes.  the first file is just a link to the second.
[09:42] <SweetestSavage> Okay, so the libvorbisfile.so.3 doesn't actually exist, but the one it links to does?
[09:42] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: shared libraries are almost always don't like that.  I don't think that's the problem
[09:42] <SweetestSavage> Okay
[09:42] <SweetestSavage> I'm sorry, I'm thinking like a Windows user =)
[09:42] <dooglus> libvororbisfile.3 is just a link to the real file, yes
[09:43] <SweetestSavage> Okay
[09:43] <SweetestSavage> Then it should find it, hm.
[09:44] <anthony_> hey everybody
[09:44] <anthony_> can somebody help me install the nvidia drivers
[09:44] <SweetestSavage> anthony_, one second
[09:44] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it doesn't work for me, but for a different reason...
[09:44] <SweetestSavage> I'll link you to a web-page that can help you
[09:45] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: can you paste the whole output to a pastebin?
[09:45] <SweetestSavage> anthony_ - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <SweetestSavage> And dooglus, how do I do that?
[09:45] <ViViD> what does ubuntu use in place of modules.conf?
[09:45] <SweetestSavage> And, output of what exactly?
[09:45] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: follow ubotu's link when I say !paste
[09:45] <dragoon> ok
[09:45] <dragoon> dont use dapper
[09:46] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: the output of running 'stepmania' in a terminal
[09:46] <dragoon> i just got back from a reinstall
[09:46] <dooglus> !paste
[09:46] <ubotflu> dooglus: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:46] <SweetestSavage> Okay.
[09:46] <SweetestSavage> !paste
[09:46] <dragoon> SweetestSavage, still no luck with stepmania ?
[09:46] <dooglus> what?  he's forgotten about paste?
[09:46] <SweetestSavage> dragoon, nope. We're working on it though
[09:46] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's here, anyway: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:46] <SweetestSavage> It said someone already said it 7 seconds ago >_>
[09:46] <ViViD> does anyone know what ubuntu uses for modules.conf??
[09:47] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, is there an easy way to just copy and paste what the terminal wrote? Or must I type it out?
[09:48] <anthony_> ok i installed the Driver by using that link savage
[09:48] <SweetestSavage> Okay anthony_, make sure you follow all of the steps.
[09:48] <Silencer> can somebody tell me why when I put in My zone Europe/Belgrade and say ok he back it to Europe/Sarajevo
[09:48] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: the best idea is to get the 'pastebin' program, as follows:
[09:48] <dooglus> 1) wget -O- http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin > ~/pastebin
[09:49] <SweetestSavage> By the way, at the last step it tells you to stop the X-Server by hitting CTRL+ALT+F1 (don't do this if you haven't gotten there yet), to restart it type startx.
[09:49] <Silencer> and why my clock in some time got 30 minutes up how to fix this problems :( really anoyng
[09:49] <dooglus> 2) chmod +x ~/pastebin
[09:49] <dooglus> 3) stepmania 2>&1 | ~/pastebin
[09:49] <anthony_> okill remember that
[09:49] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you can copy and paste - on the 'edit' menu of gnome-terminal there's "copy"
[09:50] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay.
[09:50] <SweetestSavage> Alright, I followed all of those steps.
[09:50] <SweetestSavage> It said it posted it.
[09:50] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I can't run it - I don't have OpenGL support on my graphic card
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay dooglus, Well, I do.
[09:51] <AMCDeathKnight> How can I add a dock like MAC OSX uses to Gnome?
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> Oops, dooglus let me repost.
[09:51] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: ok, let me change step 3...
[09:51] <dooglus> :)
[09:51] <anthony_> savage, one step asks if i have the "686" kernal....
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> anthony_
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> Type uname -r
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> Tell me what it says
[09:51] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: cd to the place where the stepmania binary is, then ./stepmania 2>&1 | ~/pastebin
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, one step ahead of ya ;)
[09:52] <ordinary> ive downloaded mplayer codecs to expand xines utility now where do I put them?
[09:52] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: that's the only output you see?
[09:52] <SweetestSavage> Yes
[09:52] <anthony_> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:52] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I see all this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5910
[09:53] <deFrysk> ordinary, downloaded ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb ?
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> Okay anthony_, type this.. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> Whoa dooglus. You got that far? Haha.
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> Mine just gives me that output and goes no further.
[09:53] <anthony_> what are the packges for
[09:53] <anthony_> exactly
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> anthony_, they are for your kernel.
[09:53] <anthony_> ok
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> I don't know what they are for exactly, but you need them.
[09:54] <anthony_> :)
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> You may already have them installed.
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> In most cases, you probably do.
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> If not, allow it to install them.
[09:54] <ssstormy> hey, I'm a little puzzled here...
[09:54] <ssstormy> I'm using evolution
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> So dooglus, any ideas?
[09:54] <ssstormy> and it says in the help that mail will send as soon as I click "send"
[09:54] <ordinary> deFrysk, no I got them off of the mplayer site
[09:54] <ssstormy> unless I'm working offline
[09:54] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: no.  none.
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> Ah dang =/
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> Should I try re-installing the package?
[09:55] <deFrysk> ordinary, get them from the link I gave
[09:55] <ssstormy> and that little "working offline" button isn't pressed
[09:55] <ssstormy> yet my mail just goes right into outbox
[09:55] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: how about:   "strace ./stepmania 2>&1 | ~/pastebin" please?
[09:55] <ssstormy> until I sync
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> Sure
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> Sec
[09:55] <FlannelKing> alright guys, I'm trying to get mod_perl2 on Apache2 working... and, I think I have it, except that my perl file prompts for download, instead of running.  What am I doing wrong?
[09:55] <KaRupT> HEY whats that file, that holds all the automount info?
[09:55] <KaRupT> mstab??
[09:55] <anthony_> yeah i alrady do
[09:55] <deFrysk> ordinary, then sudo dpkg -i <blah.deb>
[09:55] <KaRupT> fstab??
[09:55] <deFrysk> ordinary, then done ;)
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> Okay anthony_, then you are done that step
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> And dooglus, done
[09:56] <anthony_> ok thanks
[09:56] <SweetestSavage> No problem =)
[09:56] <ssstormy> FlannelKing, you have to declare the perl filetype in apache.conf
[09:56] <SweetestSavage> Whoa, that sent a lot of data dooglus, haha.
[09:56] <KaRupT> Ne1??
[09:56] <FlannelKing> declare, AddType? or what?
[09:56] <KaRupT> Automount info where is it kept?
[09:56] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: look at lines 75 through 77 - it opened the file OK
[09:57] <deFrysk> ordinary, and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:57] <FlannelKing> ssstormy, AddHandler? or what?
[09:57] <anthony_> ok savage...it says my X was changed successfully
[09:57] <anthony_> thanks alot
[09:57] <ssstormy> FlannelKing, yeah I think that's it
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> No problem anthony_ =) Have fun.
[09:57] <ssstormy> look in the file
[09:57] <ssstormy> there's already ones there for php
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, that makes it even more confusing.
[09:57] <anthony_> if you ever need help with windows 3.1 i got your back
[09:57] <ssstormy> it should be similar
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> Haha, alright anthony_ =)
[09:57] <FlannelKing> yeah, is it cgi-script? or what (mod_perl, not just cgi)
[09:57] <anthony_> peace
[09:57] <ordinary> its a tar.gz file...
[09:58] <ssstormy> cgi isn't perl as far as I know
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I'll try re-installing the package.
[09:58] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I notice your /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3 is a bit different than mine.  what version do you have to the package?
[09:58] <ssstormy> have you looked for a tutorial or read the docs for apache?
[09:58] <FlannelKing> Ive been doing both for eight hours or so.
[09:59] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: dpkg -l libvorbisfile3
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> Okay, one sec
[09:59] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: just the last line
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> It says..
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> 1.1.0-lubuntu
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> Err
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> 1.1.0-lubuntul
[10:00] <dooglus> 1.1.0-1ubuntu1 here
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> Okay that's strange o.O
[10:00] <dooglus> what about: md5sum /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, it's on pastebin
[10:02] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: that's the problem then.  I see fc3c6d39fa761ba687101b764c0f2bca  /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[10:02] <dodgyville> Hello, from the command line, how can I tell what http requests are active? (ie my internet connections...)
[10:02] <bettong_BOFH> anyone here anygood with sound problems?
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> Okay, so, what should I do then?
[10:02] <dooglus> I don't know why...   "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libvorbisfile3"
[10:03] <dooglus> then do the md5sum command again.
[10:04] <mrkoje> dodgyville,  run  netstat
[10:04] <dooglus> dodgyville: you can use netstat to see all network connections.  you can use tcpdump to sniff the network card.
[10:04] <pl_ice> hi
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Okay, here's my situation: Windows screwed my clock, so I'm redoing it.  I want the system clock to be EST, and the hardware clock to be UCT.  How do I do this?
[10:04] <wayde> ufscan: u still here?
[10:04] <dodgyville> Thanks
[10:04] <pl_ice> hey, u guys know a program that will reduce resolution of a avi movie etc?
[10:04] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: windows insists on using local time.  if you're going to dual-boot you should use local time in ubuntu too
[10:04] <wayde> mplayer can do that
[10:05] <wayde> pl_ice: mplayer lets u do that
[10:05] <smo> tonyyarusso, keeping your system clock to utc is messy with windows.  the closest you'll get is telling windows you live on UTC, and ignoring the fact that it'll show the time a few hours off
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I rarely use Windows, so I had it previously set up as described, and just had the wrong time in Windows, which was peachy.
[10:05] <SweetestSavage> Alright dooglus, after finding my ubuntu CD and then getting it into the right cdrom.. I'll see what it says
[10:05] <jeremykws> I have a HP PSC 2170 wnich isn't being recognized in the System>Administration>Printing>New Printer dialog
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> smo: I don't care what Windows thinks.
[10:05] <pl_ice> wayde do i have to still install transcode for mplayer? ... couse i had heaps of problems with it u/d hoary
[10:06] <mrkoje> dodgyville,  if you use tcpdump  make sure you pipe it to a textfile  such  as    sudp tcpdump > tmpdump.txt
[10:06] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, it still says the same thing
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> dooglus and smo: I just want to get the clocks straightened out in Ubuntu.
[10:06] <jeremykws> do i need any software beyond the default breezy install to use the printer?
[10:06] <wayde> pl_ice yer u have to mate
[10:06] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you change it in /etc/default/rcS, search for UTC
[10:06] <mrkoje> dodgyville,  otherwise you will just get a bunch of chars frantically scrolling across your term
[10:06] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what about the md5sum?  is that still the same?
[10:07] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, yes
[10:07] <mrkoje> jeremykws, printing is a touchy subject I think
[10:07] <pl_ice> wayde, uh, ok will try :/
[10:07] <jeremykws> ya
[10:07] <wayde> pl_ice: if u do sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 it will install anything it needs
[10:07] <jeremykws> i know
[10:07] <mrkoje> jeremykws,  It really depends if your printer is supported with the cups drivers...
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I have utc=yes in there.  My issue isn't really the communication between the two I think so much as setting the hardware clock.
[10:07] <mrkoje> jeremykws,  however, I was able to "out of the box" get my HP 1350 all in one printing...
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: hwclock keeps telling me I have too many arguements, and I don't really know how to use it.
[10:08] <pl_ice> wayde yeh, ok
[10:08] <pl_ice> transcode played on my nervs last time :)
[10:08] <bettong_BOFH> so anyone know anything about sound?
[10:08] <wayde> pl_ice it should be ok, if u have any probs u kno what to do mate
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> bettong_BOFH, if anyone knows an answer to your question, they will answer it so go ahead and ask.
[10:09] <wayde> :)
[10:09] <pl_ice> wayde yeh, use wine ;)
[10:09] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: which mirror are you using for apt-get?
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> The canadian one
[10:09] <wayde> pl_ice lol... bloody wine
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> ca.archives. I think it says in my sources.list
[10:10] <SweetestSavage> Actually dooglus, I think it's because I'm using the AMD64 ones
[10:10] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: run "sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" to set the time correctly
[10:10] <bettong_BOFH> i have a sound card that can put out multiple sounds from diffrent apps and for some reason it will only let one app access the sound card at one time the sound card is an ac97 card thats onboard a foxconn 7748K7AA mainboard.
[10:10] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: aah!  that'll be it.
[10:10] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you're running the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[10:10] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, yes.
[10:10] <bettong_BOFH> is there a way to fix this isshue?
[10:10] <dodgyville> My ftp link has reached its maximum connections. I have shut down the ftp program but netstat shows a couple still open. How can I kill these, and will it help ?
[10:10] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I believe I can still use the 32-bit drivers though, since AMD is backwards compatible
[10:11] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: that'll be the problem then I guess.  you'll probably need to compile from source I gues.
[10:11] <dragoon> noyou cant
[10:11] <dooglus> s
[10:11] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, alright, how difficult is that?
[10:11] <dragoon> you need to use 64bit drivers because your using a 64bit os
[10:11] <dooglus> bettong_BOFH: I have the same problem with my ac97
[10:11] <bettong_BOFH> weard
[10:11] <SweetestSavage> dragoon, ah, okay.
[10:11] <bettong_BOFH> a freind has the same card as me and his works fine
[10:11] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it'll be a learning experience...
[10:11] <frenchgit> hi guys - i've got a language question that's got me stumped. I can't find where/how to reconfigure the lang setting for the xserver.. i've got GDM and then the date settings etc in gnome set to Armenian or something like that. I've searched all around my system but still can't find the right file/setting. Can anyone help ? :(
[10:12] <SweetestSavage> I have an AC97 aswell
[10:12] <SweetestSavage> I can't say if it doesn't output through it's other ports, though
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: That set them to the correct time, but hwclock is still displaying it in EST.
[10:12] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I see.
[10:12] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, what tools will I need?
[10:12] <rosendahl_> burning DVD's is soo boring !!!! ... I need a 10000xDVD-burner !
[10:13] <bettong_BOFH> well if gaim is makeing a sound when i try to play music it won't let me play the music
[10:13] <mrkoje> dodgyville,  good question... I would like to know the answer also.
[10:13] <bettong_BOFH> and if music is playing no other sound can >.<
[10:13] <jeremykws> ok, i just got it to work by blindly selecting "usb printer 1" instead of trying to get it autodetected
[10:13] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: get "build-essential"
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Okay, will do
[10:14] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you'll probably need a bunch of *-dev packages too, depending on what libraries the game uses
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> Yeah, I just installed the dev packages for the libvorbis, since the FAQ says to do so
[10:14] <mrkoje> jeremykws,  thank god for the goodwork with cups. I was never able to get my printers working  2 years ago!
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> Alright dooglus, done that.
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> I got build-essential installed.
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> Oh, I'll need the source-files too =)
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: So basically my issue at this point is telling hwclock "Hey, display that in UTC please."
[10:16] <bettong_BOFH> the funnie thing is is that my soundblaster live used to work perfectly in my old mainboard and now it does the same thing as the ac97 card
[10:16] <Mabus06> Can Yahoo Instant Messager be used from Linux?
[10:16] <jeremykws> mrkoje: ya really
[10:17] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: did you read "man hwclock"?
[10:17] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: apparently it displays in UTC by default (?)
[10:17] <joedj> Mabus06: i don't think so, but there are certainly lots of clients that can talk Yahoo
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06: I don't know about the app, but the protocol can be used under Linux with Gaim.
[10:17] <joedj> Mabus06: i use KDE's kopete
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Yeah, and I see --utc, but I'm not sure how to use it.
[10:17] <mrkoje> Mabus06,  I think Gaim works with yahoo
[10:17] <Mabus06> well yeah, but I want to have a webcam convo
[10:18] <Mabus06> and gaim doesn't use webcam, gaim-vv doesn't work
[10:18] <bettong_BOFH> does anyone think that a bios upgrade might help me with my sound problem?
[10:18] <ssstormy> Mabus06, try finding another one
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, okay I got an error now while trying to run the configure, "configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found"
[10:18] <ssstormy> bettong_BOFH, I tried that
[10:18] <Mabus06> and kopete will let me have one way webcam convos... with some people, but never with two
[10:18] <bettong_BOFH> damn
[10:18] <ssstormy> my sound device was failing to auto-probe half the time on boot
[10:18] <ssstormy> didn't help
[10:18] <bettong_BOFH> what the heck is like ac97 hit or miss as to wether it runs or not?
[10:18] <Shinjan> hi folks
[10:18] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what was the "checking for..." message just before that?
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> checking for glPushMatrix in -lGL
[10:19] <ssstormy> bettong_BOFH, I think it's my cheap mobo
[10:19] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I hadn't heard of hwclock before you mentioned it.  you know more than I do about it.
[10:19] <ssstormy> but basically sometimes it fails to initialize
[10:19] <bettong_BOFH> well mines not that cheap
[10:19] <ssstormy> and no sound until you reboot
[10:19] <bettong_BOFH> lol
[10:19] <bettong_BOFH> wow
[10:19] <ssstormy> of course no one says that's what happened to yuo
[10:19] <bettong_BOFH> mine plays sound but only from one app at a time
[10:20] <dodgyville> My ftp link has reached its maximum connections. I have shut down the ftp program but netstat shows a couple still open. How can I kill these, and will it help ?
[10:20] <bettong_BOFH> like something is blocking the sound card somehow
[10:20] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: so you need to install libgl1-mesa-dev
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, what it checked for.. would I just install that package?
[10:20] <dodgyville> argh, cut n' paste to wrong channel, sorry.
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> Oh, okay.
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> Thank you!
[10:21] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: and libglu1-mesa-dev
[10:21] <ssstormy> FlannelKing, http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Apache-Overview-HOWTO-17.html
[10:21] <FlannelKing> guys, I followed the instructions at the documentation (http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/intro/start_fast.html) to the letter, and I still get downloads (well, haven't moved on to second part)
[10:21] <ssstormy> FlannelKing, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/cgi.html
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> dooglus:  Okay.  I'm just being perplexed then at while both the default and with --utc display something with "EST" at the end of the string.
[10:21] <ssstormy> FlannelKing, don't forget to restart apache
[10:21] <ssstormy> and if one tutorial dosn't work for you, look at a few others
[10:21] <FlannelKing> I do restart it
[10:22] <ssstormy> bettong_BOFH, I tried that too
[10:22] <bettong_BOFH> lol
[10:22] <SweetestSavage> Okay it didn't find SDL
[10:22] <FlannelKing> the first one isnt a tutorial...
[10:22] <bettong_BOFH> is there at least some idea has to what is happening here
[10:22] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: "sudo apt-get install libsdl-gfx1.2-dev libsdl1.2-dev"
[10:22] <bettong_BOFH> or how to find it out
[10:22] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, how are you getting this information?
[10:23] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I already have the packages installed from previous builds I've done.
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Okay, now here's an interesting bit: The Gnome time display is correct when I toggle the "Show in UTC" in preferences.  So obviously the clock is right, it just feels like displaying differently than expected.
[10:23] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: so I listed my packages and grepped for "dev" and "sdl"
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> Oh, I see. I was just wondering because if I could find out on my own it'd be quicker, and I wouldn't have to pester you =)
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> Anybody familiar with usage of hwclock?
[10:23] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it doesn't sound right does it.  maybe it's just that the manual is wrong though.
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> Alright, this time it didn't find libpng
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Could be.
[10:24] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: libpng12-dev
[10:24] <mihai_> I need help. How do i reset my password in mysql?
[10:25] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you can use "apt-file" to search for packages which provide a given file - but ./configure doesn't always give you enough to go on
[10:25] <mihai_> I've got a fresh install and I set a password with mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password and now I can't login in any way
[10:25] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: probably for png this would work: "apt-cache search png | grep dev"
[10:26] <dooglus> mihai____: not even "mysql -u root -p" <RETURN> password <RETURN> ?
[10:26] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, how do I use apt-file to search for packages?
[10:26] <SweetestSavage> sudo apt-get search ?
[10:26] <Aton> hello could some1 tell me how can i enable my 5.1 sound?!?
[10:26] <ssstormy> anyone familiar with codecs?
[10:26] <FlannelKing> ssstormy, what abou tthem?
[10:26] <mihai____> dooglus, ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[10:26] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: first install package 'apt-file'.  then "sudo apt-file update". then apt-file search libpng
[10:27] <ssstormy> trying to play mp4 wmv asf and stuff
[10:27] <mrkoje> mihai____,  do you mean phpMyAdmin?
[10:27] <ssstormy> mplayer can't handle mp4 welll
[10:27] <dooglus> mihai____: strange.  did you forget what you changed it too?
[10:27] <mihai____> dooglus, changed it 5 minutes ago
[10:27] <ssstormy> and totem/xine/gxine can't handle the videos i throw at them no matter what I do
[10:27] <ssstormy> Aton, open the Volume Control
[10:27] <ssstormy> go to prefs and add all the stuff
[10:27] <mihai____> dooglus, used a simple password, just 4 chars. just for testing purpose only. and now I can't log in at all
[10:28] <mihai____> mrkoje, I try with mysql in terminal
[10:28] <dooglus> mihai____: did you try changing it to several different things?  if so, only the first one stuck
[10:28] <FlannelKing> you have w32codecs ssstormy?
[10:28] <ssstormy> under channel mode is a switch
[10:28] <ssstormy> FlannelKing, yeah
[10:28] <ssstormy> Aton, a switch for 2ch/4ch/6ch
[10:28] <ssstormy> and then there are other sliders for center etc
[10:28] <innar> hello. i have a question on terminal server client usb. everything works fine, but i would like to make a shortcut on desktop to the usb-storage. the $DISPLAY parameter would be great thing to use. but a shortcut to "smb://$DISPLAY" wont work - any ideas what could work? thanks
[10:29] <mihai____> dooglus, I've put the first command after the install and then tryed to add a database. that's all
[10:29] <ssstormy> althought I had to check "duplicate front" to turn on my rear speakers
[10:29] <mihai____> dooglus, isn't a way to reset it compleatly?
[10:29] <madhatter_> hello!
[10:29] <dooglus> mihai____: I installed mysql last week and got similarly confused.  I don't know it very well, sorry.
[10:29] <dooglus> mihai____: there is a #mysql here though - you could try them
[10:29] <Aton> i can not find it there :S
[10:30] <mihai____> dooglus, I'll try there too
[10:30] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, okay, well this time it needs MAD, for mp3 support
[10:30] <madhatter_> hey- the icons on the desktop for mounted drives and such... can you turn them off?
[10:30] <mihai____> dooglus, just that I suppose that there has to be some sort of shadow file for mysql too where I can reset the password
[10:30] <SweetestSavage> Should I use xmms-mad ?
[10:31] <mihai____> anybody know where the mysql passwords are stored?
[10:31] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I don't have that one...  I guess you need <something>-dev
[10:32] <madhatter_> ls
[10:33] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: did it already check for the libvorbis library?
[10:33] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, not sure.
[10:33] <SweetestSavage> Probably coming up next, found the MAD libraries
[10:33] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I get stuck at: "checking for ogg_stream_init in -logg... no"
[10:33] <Aton> i added all the switches the sound is not what it is seposed ton be
[10:33] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I don't see it looking for MAD libraries - so I think you're ahead of me now.
[10:34] <Aton> the subwoofer is not working
[10:34] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I think it completed.
[10:34] <Aton> and the rear speaker isn't working
[10:34] <Aton> only the other 4 speakers are
[10:34] <SweetestSavage> Wait, it said something about a GTK module
[10:34] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: the MAD lib dev package is "libmad0-dev"
[10:35] <SweetestSavage> Yeah, I got it =)
[10:35] <SweetestSavage> It says, Could not run GTK+ test program
[10:35] <SweetestSavage> It kept going anyways
[10:35] <SweetestSavage> But it says that
[10:35] <dooglus> you need the GTK+ dev package too?
[10:35] <SweetestSavage> I guess so
[10:35] <SweetestSavage> Says, the test program failed to compile or link.
[10:36] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: libgtk2.0-dev
[10:36] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thank you dooglus =)
[10:37] <SweetestSavage> Okay, configure ran cleanly
[10:37] <dooglus> can you imagine how much more trouble this would be to do in Windows?
[10:37] <SweetestSavage> Oh, I can
[10:37] <dooglus> you would have to visit each of these project's home pages separately
[10:37] <SweetestSavage> Compiling sources is a b****
[10:37] <KaRupT> When you plug something in and its automounted, how can ya stop it from happening?
[10:37] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it'll be easier next time you need to do it - you've got almost every library installed now :)
[10:37] <SweetestSavage> Okay in the FAQ, it says to run "make"
[10:37] <SweetestSavage> Hehe, yeah.
[10:38] <SweetestSavage> Compiling is a cinch!
[10:38] <mihai____> Where can te MySQL passwords be stored?
[10:38] <SweetestSavage> What is the command for "make"?
[10:38] <dooglus> so run "make".  ('make' is part of 'build-essential')
[10:38] <dooglus> that's all.  just "make"
[10:38] <SweetestSavage> Ah okay
[10:38] <SweetestSavage> Doing so
[10:38] <dooglus> "./configure" built you a Makefile.  "make" uses that Makefile to build the program
[10:38] <SweetestSavage> Interesting, lotsa stuff going on, heh.
[10:38] <SweetestSavage> Ohh, I see
[10:39] <SweetestSavage> Linux is smart =)
[10:39] <SweetestSavage> So basically, if a program doesn't run, I just recompile the source, and it'll work on my 64-bit system?
[10:39] <dooglus> this could take a while - there were 3Mb of sources, right?
[10:39] <Adross> is it possible to port my gnome panel settings(via the applications.menu file) to the openbox menu(via the menu.xml file)?
[10:39] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, yeah.
[10:40] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: mostly, I guess.  I've never used a 64 bit linux.
[10:40] <SweetestSavage> Ah okay. Well that's great for compatibility.
[10:40] <SweetestSavage> So after this is done.. I replace the gtkmodule.so file and stepmania file?
[10:40] <lucasvo> mihai____: it is in the table mysql
[10:41] <mihai____> lucasvo, the problem is that I can't login to the database
[10:41] <mihai____> lucasvo, at all
[10:41] <dooglus> I don't know.  that's specific to stepmania.  I guess the README will help
[10:41] <lucasvo> mihai____: there is some option to start mysql with no root password set
[10:41] <lucasvo> mihai____: read the manual
[10:42] <lucasvo> !google
[10:42] <ubotflu> google is, like, a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[10:42] <lucasvo> mihai____: or you can search on google
[10:42] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thanks a lot for your help dooglus
[10:42] <SweetestSavage> I guess this is one of the things that makes Linux so great =)
[10:42] <mihai____> lucasvo, tried everything
[10:42] <SweetestSavage> I never knew compiling was so easy
[10:43] <SweetestSavage> Okay, make gave me some errors
[10:43] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's usually not needed, since so many packages are available from the repositories
[10:43] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it did?  on what file?
[10:43] <SweetestSavage> lualib.h
[10:44] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you have liblua50-dev installed?
[10:44] <quacker> Re: all.
[10:44] <lucasvo> mihai____: not really: search for reset password mysql on google and the first page I get is OK, third is even better
[10:44] <SweetestSavage> Yes I do
[10:44] <lucasvo> Restart mysqld with the --skip-grant-tables option.
[10:44] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what was the last .cpp file mentioned before the error?
[10:44] <SweetestSavage> GameConstantsAndTypes.cpp
[10:44] <ejofee> why doesn't ubuntu include xmms-midi?
[10:44] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's ok - I've caught you up.  I see the same error.  you have a faster PC than me I guess...
[10:45] <SweetestSavage> Yeah, mine is about 6 months old
[10:45] <ejofee> i simply can't run midis in xmms!
[10:45] <ejofee> (can you believe that?) :)
[10:45] <SweetestSavage> ejofee, download the midi package?
[10:45] <quacker> How do I make breezy/kde CUPS detect and install a new printer. The GUI stalls for about 5 minutes and times out while looking for a printer daemon on port 631
[10:45] <ejofee> SweetestSavage: where from?
[10:45] <SweetestSavage> Let me check..
[10:46] <ejofee> SweetestSavage: there's no such package in any repo (among more than 17 000 packages!)
[10:46] <SweetestSavage> ejofee, perhaps XMMS has no midi support?
[10:47] <anthony__> hey again everybody
[10:47] <ejofee> SweetestSavage: there is a plugin, which ubuntu doesn't have.
[10:47] <mrkoje> ejofee,  I know this is overkill for midis but I got it to work by running the easyeubuntu script...
[10:47] <SweetestSavage> Oh, I see ejofee
[10:47] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: did you install liblualib50-dev ?
[10:47] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I'll check
[10:47] <SweetestSavage> No I did not, thank you =)
[10:47] <ejofee> mrkoje: what script is that?
[10:48] <anthony__> has anybody gotten mp3s to play in rythembox
[10:48] <mrkoje> ejofee,  its a script that install all sorts of codecs and support for files that is not included with ubuntu...
[10:48] <mrkoje> ejofee,  goto  #easyubuntu
[10:48] <mrkoje> ubotu tell ejofee about easyubuntu
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: Let me check.
[10:49] <ejofee> mrkoje: thank you
[10:49] <anthony__> k
[10:49] <mrkoje> ubugtu tell ejofee about easyubuntu
[10:49] <mrkoje> wtf
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: Yeah, it worked.
[10:49] <mrkoje> !beer
[10:49] <anthony__> hmm
[10:49] <mrkoje> there we go
[10:49] <mrkoje> ubotflu tell ejofee about easyubuntu
[10:49] <anthony__> mine said its an invalid stream
[10:49] <mrkoje> !easybreezy
[10:50] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: no need to "./configure" again.  just "made" again, and it will continue where it left off
[10:50] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, gah it gave me a strange error
[10:50] <mrkoje> there we go
[10:50] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: go on?
[10:50] <mrkoje> ubotflu tell ejofee about easybreezy
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: And you're sure about the file being okay?
[10:50] <SweetestSavage> Threads_Pthreads.cpp:47 error: cast from *void* to int loses precision
[10:50] <SweetestSavage> And then it stopped
[10:50] <ejofee> mrkoje: why is it "ubotflu" now instead of "ubotu"?!
[10:50] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: on what file?
[10:50] <ejofee> mrkoje: (thanks again)
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: I know mp3 is a non-free format; that could be part of it.
[10:51] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: as in which .cpp file?
[10:51] <SweetestSavage> Threads_Pthreads.cpp
[10:51] <Aton> can some1 tell me how do i enable my 5.1 playback?!?
[10:51] <mrkoje> ejofee,  I don't know... it was ubugtu earlier
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: Have you checked out the Restricted Formats wiki page?
[10:51] <ejofee> mrkoje: maybe it should preserve the "ubotu" nick.
[10:52] <anthony__> im kinda unaware what that is
[10:52] <anthony__> oh oho oh
[10:52] <anthony__> no i have nor
[10:52] <anthony__> not*
[10:52] <anthony__> umm people claim to get mp3s playing in rythem box
[10:52] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it just got there in my build, but didn't fail.  maybe it's a problem with the 64 bit linux
[10:52] <SweetestSavage> Aw =( So it's impossible to fix?
[10:53] <mrkoje> anthony,  have you installed the mp3 codec?
[10:53] <anthony__> :) dont think so opps
[10:53] <Aton> i installed the xmms player works fine
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <ubuntu`nico`> hello
[10:53] <mrkoje> ubotflu tell anthony__ about easybreezy
[10:54] <Aton> is there some1 who knows how to enable the 5.1 sound output?!?
[10:54] <anthony__> im no newb but i dont want to deal with ficing/finding the codecs
[10:55] <anthony__> but thats
[10:55] <anthony__> thanks*
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> anthony__: Everything I had I got in debian packages, so it wasn't too bad.
[10:55] <mrkoje> anthony__,  run the easybreezy script... it really does work wonders and saves a lot of time
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> !easybreezy
[10:55] <anthony__> k thanks
[10:55] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I don't understand the complaint from the C compiler.  I thought it was legal to cast a (void *) to and from any other type.
[10:55] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: what's that error message in full?
[10:55] <SweetestSavage> One sec
[10:56] <Weiss_> dooglus: and other *pointer* type
[10:56] <dooglus> Weiss_: oh, I see.
[10:56] <anthony__> wait, when i try to ass the !easybreezy to the severs it says cant connect
[10:56] <Lukian> I just installed ubuntu and can't seem to change my res from 640x480 :(
[10:57] <dooglus> Weiss_: how would you cast a void* to an int behind the compiler's back then?
[10:57] <tomsa> Hello
[10:57] <mustard5> !fixres
[10:57] <ubotflu> I heard fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:57] <Lukian> ty mustard5 , looking now
[10:58] <Weiss_> dooglus: i wouldn't - it's Evil and Wrong... you can only do it by assuming that a pointer is the same size as an int, which may well be the case - but if you're making that assumption, you almost certainly don't need to cast anyway...
[10:58] <mustard5> Lukian, you used linux before?
[10:58] <SweetestSavage> Okay dooglus, here is the whole error
[10:58] <SweetestSavage> arch/Threads/Threads_Pthreads.cpp:47: error: cast from void* to int loses precision
[10:58] <Lukian> mustard5: a little :)
[10:58] <mustard5> Lukian, ok..so you now what a terminal is?
[10:58] <tomsa> I would like to know if it is possible to move a debian to umbuntu without reinstalling everything (for example, the perfect manip would be: update sources.list, apt-get dist-upgrade et hop, it's done)
[10:58] <mustard5> *know
[10:59] <dooglus> Weiss_: I think the problem is that the integer is smaller than the pointer.  it's a 64 bit machine, so the pointer is 64 bits.  and 'int' is 32 bits?  is that plausible?
[10:59] <rambo3> long int ?
[11:00] <neiliid> Hi All...
[11:00] <Jae> Hello.
[11:00] <mustard5> greetings neiliid
[11:00] <Weiss_> dooglus: try writing a small program to print sizeof(void *) and sizeof(int) and see..
[11:00] <mustard5> wb Mabus06
[11:00] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I'll get back to you.
[11:00] <neiliid> Anyone have a link to a FAQ on installing the Novatel 3G pcmcia card modem?
[11:00] <SweetestSavage> Okay dooglus.
[11:00] <SweetestSavage> Uhm actually dooglus, I have to get going. Do you have AIM/MSN?
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> What's a PLF repo?
[11:01] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, penguin liberation front
[11:01] <thegladiator> does ny one like ephiphamy ?
[11:01] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, check !easysource
[11:01] <Jae> I asked over in #kubuntu, since that's the distro I'm using, but I'll ask here: does Ubuntu have out-of-the-box wireless networking support?
[11:01] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, it can set up a sources.list with PLF repos
[11:01] <dooglus> Weiss_: could you put this into /tmp/file.c:
[11:01] <m0r0n> Hi, I want to deinstall openoffice because a milestone version has accidently been installed.
[11:01] <dooglus> sorry.
[11:01] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: could you put this into /tmp/file.c :
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: The bot thought I was hit with a windmill.
[11:01] <dooglus> main() { printf("%d %d\n", sizeof(void*), sizeof(int)); }
[11:01] <m0r0n> But I dont know how to do that
[11:01] <mustard5> !easysource
[11:01] <ubotflu> it has been said that easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:02] <Jae> !wireless
[11:02] <ubotflu> Jae: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:02] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: then type "cd /tmp; gcc file.c; ./a.out"
[11:02] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, how do I do that?
[11:02] <Lukian> mustard5: yes ;)
[11:02] <neiliid> Jae: Yes it does
[11:02] <m0r0n> apt-get remove openoffice 1 or 2 doesnt work
[11:02] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: use "gedit /tmp/file.c"
[11:02] <mustard5> Lukian, cool :)
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: Fine.  Let the bot like you.
[11:02] <thegladiator> thegladiator, check ny!
[11:02] <mustard5> Lukian, your half way there then :)
[11:02] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, hehe
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: I actually had found something that mentioned doing the sources list for them, but didn't know what sort of stuff would be in them.
[11:02] <Jae> Sweet. I've got a D-Link card and I really wanna dual-boot Kubuntu and Win2K Pro. I'm on XP right now... can't stand the damn thing. Nothing works right.
[11:02] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: or, do    echo 'main() { printf("%d %d\n", sizeof(void*), sizeof(int)); }' > /tmp/file.c
[11:03] <thegladiator> hey does any on like ephihphamy browser over FF ?
[11:03] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, it said this when I did the "cd /tmp etc.": file.c:1: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[11:03] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, a lot of stuff that can't be stored in official repos
[11:03] <Jae> Okay. Bed for me as I have to be at work in 8 hours.
[11:03] <thegladiator> i am using ephiphamy and i like irs clean looks
[11:03] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: never mind.
[11:03] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: on to the next step - that's just a warning
[11:03] <SweetestSavage> Oh, okay.
[11:03] <thegladiator> its*
[11:03] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, I think on the page that you can create the sources.list on there is a link to there webpage
[11:03] <Lukian> brb if all fails :)
[11:04] <mustard5> Lukian, roger
[11:04] <Aton> how do  enable rear speakers in ubuntu?!?
[11:04] <gypsymauro> hi
[11:04] <graabein> hi
[11:04] <mustard5> Aton, you using alsamixer?
[11:04] <gypsymauro> there is a way to create a VCD from pictures with ubuntu? (for example a slideshow with music background)
[11:04] <SweetestSavage> What's the next step, Dooglus?
[11:04] <mustard5> !info alsamixer
[11:05] <Aton> yes i am
[11:05] <mustard5> Aton, k..I don't know much more than that ;)
[11:05] <graabein> i am trying to set up wpa-psk... what are the commands for finding what driver i have and the network card?
[11:05] <Aton> gotta crye now
[11:05] <KaRupT> whats the package that has all the video and audio decoders in in?
[11:05] <mustard5> KaRupT, w32codecs
[11:05] <mrkoje> graabein,  lspci can probably tell you what card you got
[11:06] <mustard5> !tell KaRupT about w32codecs
[11:06] <mrkoje> graabein,  you have the wpasupplicant right?
[11:06] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: ?
[11:06] <mustard5> KaRupT, look for a PM from ubotflu
[11:06] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: then type "cd /tmp; gcc file.c; ./a.out"
[11:06] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, yeah I did that already, haha.
[11:06] <graabein> mrkoje, yes.
[11:06] <SweetestSavage> It gave me that warning when I did that
[11:06] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: that's all.  what's the ./a.out print?
[11:06] <wayde> graabein: why not just do glxinfo?
[11:07] <KaRupT> Ya I know about w32codecs, thats not what im talkin about
[11:07] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: should be 2 numbers
[11:07] <SweetestSavage> 8 and 4
[11:07] <mustard5> Aton, you tried searching on the ubuntuforums?
[11:07] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: right.  that's what I thought.
[11:07] <dooglus> so...
[11:07] <KaRupT> some bundle on a restricted source that has like all of em
[11:07] <Aton> not realy
[11:07] <dooglus> let's try hacking this...
[11:07] <Aton> i sorda just woke up
[11:07] <Aton> heh
[11:07] <dooglus> back in the StepMania-3.9-src directory
[11:07] <mustard5> Aton, I saw some threads in there yesterday..one sec..I'll try to find them
[11:07] <mrkoje> KaRupT,  You can try using the easybreezy script
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> mustard5: So there is.  Thanks.
[11:08] <SweetestSavage> Okay, I am there dooglus
[11:08] <Aton> ok tnx i apreciate it
[11:08] <mrkoje> ubotflu tell KaRupT about easybreezy
[11:08] <Weiss_> dooglus / SweetestSavage: is it your program that you're trying to debug, or someone else's?
[11:08] <SweetestSavage> Someone elses.. it isn't compiling properly.
[11:08] <dooglus> Weiss_: someone else's
[11:08] <graabein> mrkoje, the wiki says: TO do this you first determine which driver you have. In this example I assume the madwifi driver.
[11:08] <graabein> You also need to know the name of your card. In this example I assume ath0
[11:09] <mustard5> Aton, check the end of this thread where I was talking to someone yesterday  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104767
[11:09] <mrkoje> graabein, eek... I don't know much about setting it up.. its one of the things to do on my list... sorry I couldn't be more help
[11:09] <Aton> tnx ill check it right away
[11:09] <mustard5> Aton, I put up two links that I found in the forums
[11:09] <graabein> mrkoje, thats allright
[11:09] <mrkoje> graabein,  I did look at the wpa config files... and yes I know what your talking about... but thats where it ends...
[11:09] <pappan> hi
[11:09] <wayde> graabein: was your problem with your card or something?
[11:10] <pappan> i burned a ubuntu live cd yesterday :)
[11:10] <graabein> wayde, i need to know which driver i have and the name of the wireless card.
[11:10] <Adross> is it possible to edit the debian menu?
[11:10] <mustard5> pappan, how is it going?
[11:10] <wayde> graabein: try glxinfo in a terminal
[11:10] <Weiss_> dooglus / SweetestSavage: which program? maybe submit a bug report?
[11:10] <SweetestSavage> Wiess_ - It's called StepMania
[11:10] <anthony_> can somebody help me with this "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System"
[11:10] <pappan> mustard5: good although pretty slow compared to other live cds
[11:11] <SweetestSavage> The problem is probably because I'm on 64-bit linux
[11:11] <pappan> also i could not find the root passwd anywhere
[11:11] <graabein> wayde, i did that but isnt that for open gl and graphics?
[11:11] <wayde> graabein: wait... better yet, install hardinfo... sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[11:11] <pappan> which was pretty funny
[11:11] <dooglus> Weiss_: good idea.
[11:11] <mustard5> pappan, ubuntu uses sudo
[11:11] <mustard5> !tell pappan about root
[11:11] <mustard5> pappan, check PM from ubotflu ;)
[11:11] <ssstormy> anyone familiar with evolution?
[11:12] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: back in the StepMania-3.9-src directory, run this:      sed -i 's/(int) val/(int)(long)val/' src/arch/Threads/Threads_Pthreads.cpp
[11:12] <ssstormy> it's not sending my emails immediatly
[11:12] <graabein> wayde, isnt there some way to probe or whatever to find what driver i am using? madwiki/ndiswrapper etc??
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible for a desktop computer to have a winmodem?  I ran a live cd on one today, and it wasn't able to detect the modem, similar to the problem I initially had with my laptop.  The computer in question is made by Dell, fyi.
[11:12] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: then try 'make' again.
[11:12] <pappan> no PM has come till now
[11:12] <ssstormy> it places them in "outbox"
[11:12] <pappan> whois
[11:12] <anthony_> can somebody help me with this "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System"
[11:12] <mustard5> pappan, ah ok..you registered?
[11:12] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, success!
[11:12] <pappan> no
[11:12] <graabein> wayde, and the name of the network card, i can find it in lspci but i think i need a name like "ath0" or something
[11:12] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  Yes.. matter of fact most pre-fab computers ship with winmodems
[11:12] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: well...  it might crash when you run it...
[11:12] <wayde> graabein: just install hardinfo... it will show u everything u have...
[11:12] <mustard5> pappan, nevermind..I did something wrong :)
[11:12] <mustard5> !root
[11:12] <ubotflu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mustard5
[11:12] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's an ugly hack, just to get around the compiler error
[11:13] <mustard5> !rootsudo
[11:13] <ubotflu> mustard5: What?
[11:13] <SweetestSavage> Hehe, well it worked.
[11:13] <wayde> graabein, it is only like, 220kb
[11:13] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  or at least they used too... I'm not sure about the modems built into the motherboard... I presume the same though - winmodem
[11:13] <Weiss_> dooglus: that's truly horrific. hang your head in shame...
[11:13] <wayde> sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[11:13] <pappan> !root sudo
[11:13] <mustard5> !sudo
[11:13] <ubotflu> pappan: Wish i knew
[11:13] <ubotflu> mustard5: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:13] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you won't know that until you run the game
[11:13] <graabein> wayde, allright ill have a look at it
[11:13] <deFrysk> !root
[11:13] <dooglus> Weiss_: heh
[11:13] <mustard5> stupid ubotflu :)
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Shoot.  So I get to go through the whole scanmodem, wander the internet in frustration for a driver bit again, eh?
[11:13] <pappan> lol
[11:13] <_jason> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:13] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I'm not sure the return value is ever used for anything.
[11:13] <pappan> nevermind i got it
[11:13] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay dooglus.
[11:13] <delta> a
[11:13] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso, first Id check to see if it is indeed a winmodem, or ifits somethign else
[11:13] <pappan> _jason: ty i will chk that link
[11:13] <mrkoje> yes... but you might be able to use the ndiswrapper.... maybe
[11:13] <anthony_> can somebody help me with this "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System"
[11:13] <anthony_> please
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: How could I tell?
[11:14] <anthony_> where to start
[11:14] <_jason> .ubotflu, is forgetting stuff
[11:14] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  I have heard of the ndiswrapper being used for all sorts of things win related
[11:14] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  it will take some creativity
[11:14] <Weiss_> dooglus / SweetestSavage: i suspect the programmer(s) assumed they could do that cast (although i can't figure out why they'd want to...) - you can get away with it on platforms where the two sizes are the same, but you might be one of the first people to try it on 64-bits..
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: I've never heard of this ndiswrapper.  What is it?
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> !ndiswrapper
[11:14] <ubotflu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:14] <SweetestSavage> Weiss_ Well, I left the programmer a message (I have him on AIM). So, we'll see what he says. =)
[11:15] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso, open it up, look at the modem, if oyu still have windows installed, it might be able to to tell you make/model/etc, then google it
[11:15] <dooglus> Weiss_: 32 bits should be enough for anyone.  I'm sure the cast from 64 bits to 32 bits will use a super-compression algorithm and not actually lose any data.  or something.  :)
[11:15] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  it's mostly used for unsupported wifi cards that don't have a usuable linux driver. Is what it does is emulates the windows driver
[11:15] <Weiss> :)
[11:15] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, you're a C++ programmer I assume?
[11:15] <pappan> the live cd was pretty slow
[11:15] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: heh, no.
[11:15] <SweetestSavage> Oh?
[11:15] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I'm a comedian
[11:15] <eobanb> they usually are, pappan.
[11:15] <SweetestSavage> o.O
[11:15] <SweetestSavage> Haha.
[11:16] <SweetestSavage> Well, how did you figure out those functions then?
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Windows is still installed.  From the Google results though, am I going to be able to tell whether it's a real modem or not?
[11:16] <SweetestSavage> Eep, new error, heh.
[11:16] <pappan> eobanb: but compared to belenix and knoppix it is slow
[11:16] <SweetestSavage> crypto51/secblock.h:241: warning: comparison of unsigned expression >= 0 is always true is the error
[11:16] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I've been programming for years on and off
[11:16] <anthony_> wel can you programmers help me with this Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'
[11:16] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso, yeah, Im sure theres some site out there that'll tell you (or you can check if its linux compatable, which will accomplish somethign similar)
[11:16] <Lukian> trying the final solution now :(
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Do you think wireless stuff is similar enough for that to be useful?  Seems iffy to me.
[11:17] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  is it a built in?  If its a PCI card modem and it is incredibly small it is almost a sure bet that its a winmodem
[11:17] <pappan> anthony_: i am not good at OSS.. but neway if you put ur question someone here may be able to help you
[11:17] <aquarion> tonyyarusso, Ask http://linmodems.org/
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Okay, I'll look into that.
[11:17] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, any idea what that means?
[11:17] <eobanb> pappan, i suspect that the likes of knoppix were designed much more for liveCD usage than ubuntu ever was.  in light of that i suggest you try an installation
[11:17] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: some source code gives hundreds of warnings when it's compiling.  it's up to the developer really.  I like to make code compile without warnings, but some just leave them.
[11:17] <anthony_> k
[11:17] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's probably harmless.  I saw it too
[11:17] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, so how do I bypass it then?
[11:17] <thunder> hello people, sorry for my english but im a spanish
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Built in, just part of how the computer arrived in the box from Dell a few years ago.
[11:17] <eobanb> !es
[11:17] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's just a warning, right?
[11:17] <ubotflu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:17] <SweetestSavage> Yes
[11:18] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it shouldn't stop at a warning
[11:18] <Lukian> excellent! i have 800x600 and 75Hz now, but not quite there :)
[11:18] <SweetestSavage> Well, it did stop, one sec I'll look up a bit further
[11:18] <SweetestSavage> crypto51/iterhash.h:98:   instantiated from void CryptoPP::IteratedHashBase2<T, B, BASE>::TruncatedFinal(byte*, unsigned int) [with T = CryptoPP::word32, B = CryptoPP::BigEndian, BASE = CryptoPP::HashTransformation] 
[11:18] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  I would take aquarion's advice and goto linmodems.org ......I'm not really sure about modems built into the motherboard... I don't see how they could be "actual" modems though and instead rely on the cpu
[11:18] <SweetestSavage> It says that before it
[11:18] <SweetestSavage> No idea if that has anything to do with it..
[11:18] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: my build finished now.  and the executable I built fails to run just like the binary I downloaded failed to run - shows the splash screen and then complains I have a crappy graphics card and quits...
[11:18] <platos> Hi, does anyone have any experience with the dapper version of ubuntu?
[11:19] <gib8> hi i am searching for the programm"boot" in the menu from gnome, but i cant find them anymore :(
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> Given HP's recent support for Linux stuff, is it a safe assumption that a brand-new HP laptop would create few problems installing Breezy?
[11:19] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay dooglus. Should work then.. but it stops there.
[11:19] <SweetestSavage> Is there any way to bypass it?
[11:19] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's getting messy isn't it.
[11:19] <SweetestSavage> It is, heh
[11:19] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, it depends on the hardware
[11:19] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: do a "make 2>&1 | ~/pastebin"
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> aquarion & mrkoje: Will do.
[11:19] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso, you could try googling it ;) google [laptop brand/model/whatever]  ubuntu
[11:19] <aquarion> mrkoje / tonyyarusso: Usually (IME) they are using the same chips a winmodem does, and pretending to be on a com port, roughly the same way built in sound cards are.
[11:19] <FlannelKing> and see if anyone has horror/success stories
[11:19] <SweetestSavage> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5914
[11:20] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: the errors are line 13 and 14 - same as before...
[11:20] <ejofee> what is happening to seveas' repo?
[11:20] <eobanb> usually things like winmodems arent much of a problem anymore as support has developed for them, and of course they've been displaced by broadband..
[11:20] <SweetestSavage> Ah, interesting..
[11:20] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: he's trying to copy another (64 bit) pointer into a (32 bit) integer field.
[11:20] <mustard5> platos, yeah, I had it breifly installed, then got sick of it breaking during development :)
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: Meaning?  Is it still totally up in the air until I know all the parts, or is there some trend to their track record?
[11:21] <SweetestSavage> Okay, so, how do we workaround this one?
[11:21] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: it's fine on old 32 bit machines, because there pointers and integers are both 32 bits, so the conversion goes fine
[11:21] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, are you looking at a specific model of laptop from HP?
[11:21] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: you really need to get the developer to fix the problem I guess
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> ejofee: Don't know.  I couldn't load his list at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/.
[11:21] <mrkoje> aquarion,  good info... I really never had that problem... I still use my external  usrobitcs 56k... a very nice piece of equipment imo....
[11:21] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: who knows how many more of these there will be
[11:21] <platos> mustard5: well i am using the edubuntu version currently, and i have problems with booting the thin clients
[11:21] <siriusnova> anyone here own a Thinkpad T30 ?
[11:21] <pappan> how do i start contributing to ubuntu ( from programming side ) ?
[11:21] <mrkoje> *usrobotics
[11:22] <mustard5> platos, hmmm..my suggestion would be to go back to breezy :)
[11:22] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, well, how much further did it have to go before finishing on your end, dooglus?
[11:22] <dooglus> pappan: you can take over from me helping SweetestSavage hack his dance game to work on AMD64 if you like :)
[11:22] <platos> mustard5: i would like too, but dapper includes sound as breezy doesn't
[11:22] <SweetestSavage> Haha
[11:22] <pappan> dooglus: i can give it a try :)
[11:22] <eobanb> pappan, thanks for your interest! there are many ways to help.  i would consult http://www.ubuntu.com/developers to start
[11:22] <mrkoje> a "dance" game eh? Sounds like a lot of trouble for a "dance" game :)
[11:22] <mustard5> platos, unfortunately you're on your own with dapper for the most part as its still in development
[11:22] <dkg> hi!
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: I'm preparing for possibly helping a friend migrate.  Unfortunately, I haven't gotten the model information from her yet, so I don't know specifics at this time.
[11:23] <SweetestSavage> mrkoje, it's a complex one =)
[11:23] <dkg> where to get samba 3.0.20 for ubuntu?
[11:23] <SweetestSavage> pappan, I'll show you the error
[11:23] <dkg> current samba in ubuntu is broken. :(
[11:23] <graabein> wayde, i have looked at it but i still dont know if i have madwiki or ndiswrapper... isnt there a config-file or something
[11:23] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  I bet it is... I bet it is...
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Not quite.  T43 here.
[11:23] <dkg> when will there be a update?
[11:23] <platos> mustard5: yeah i know, sigh i'll try to get sound working on breezy, i'll ghost my pc back to breezy
[11:23] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: about another 46 files :(
[11:23] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, ah.
[11:23] <mustard5> platos, what sound card you using?
[11:23] <SweetestSavage> Well, how many called precision?
[11:23] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: and it's left all the "interesting" ones to the end.
[11:23] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  how do you like the thinkpad t43... I was thinking of either getting that or the x41
[11:23] <Lukian> ok, so suggestions on getting my res above 800x600 now?
[11:24] <platos> mustard5: well it's the sound on the thin clients, sound on the machine works
[11:24] <ssstormy> I have an interesting question... I can see my wireless network 100% of the time with iwlist
[11:24] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, just about everything should work.  it's possible that very specialized hardware like infrared ports or card readers will not work properly, but ubuntu's track record on hardware support is very very good.
[11:24] <ssstormy> but frustratingly often
[11:24] <mustard5> Lukian, what system you running?  What type of monitor and graphics card?
[11:24] <SweetestSavage> Do'h, heh there goes pappan.
[11:24] <wayde> graabein: im not sure, ive never really had any probs with hardware before... sorry mate
[11:24] <mustard5> platos, k
[11:24] <ssstormy> I will not be able to dhclient, or even use static
[11:24] <graabein> wayde, ok
[11:24] <mustard5> platos, I have no experience with thin clients soz
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> dkg: I have the current ubuntu one working.
[11:25] <dkg> tonyyarusso: but not with mac os x as client. :)
[11:25] <dkg> tonyyarusso: there is a bug.
[11:25] <mrkoje> siriusnova,  have you checked out the  thinkwiki?  www.thinkwiki.org
[11:25] <pappan> sorry got disconnected
[11:25] <platos> mustard5: i don't blame ya, ltsp is still very basic on ubuntu
[11:25] <SweetestSavage> pappan, this is the error:  crypto51/misc.h:145: error: cast from const void* to unsigned int loses precision
[11:25] <mustard5> Lukian, the fixres how to didnt give you any help?
[11:26] <Lukian> mustard5: 17" acer 1716 lcd, and onboard video (VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] )
[11:26] <siriusnova> mrkoje - yeah I did, i just wanted to know if people liked their T30 :)
[11:26] <Alex_BO> HELLO!Is there a way to suspend Linux as in Windows?
[11:26] <Lukian> mustard5: it got me up to 800x600, but no further
[11:26] <thunder> Can someone read me?
[11:26] <Lukian> (and fixed my flickering)
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> dkg: Very true.
[11:26] <platos> thunder: yeah i can
[11:26] <mrkoje> siriusnova, imo  all thinkpads are great... I'm about to get a x41... I think..
[11:26] <mustard5> Lukian, hmm k
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: It's been wonderful for me so far.
[11:27] <siriusnova> mrkoje - yeah thinkpads are great machines, im using a 600E right now
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Even survived an adult man sitting on it while it was closed.
[11:27] <eobanb> heh
[11:27] <Lukian> mustard5, not watching this window atm, pm me if you think of anything
[11:27] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  siriusnova  have you gotten the fingerprint scanner to work... is there any software that can tie it to a pgp key?
[11:27] <mustard5> Lukian k
[11:27] <thunder> platos,  thanks,  remain here to seeing if I learn something of Englishman
[11:27] <pappan> SweetestSavage: i guess the code typecasts from a pointer to an integer
[11:27] <eobanb> mrkoje, that'd be damn cool :)
[11:27] <siriusnova> mrjoke - 600E doesnt have a fingerprint scanner :/
[11:28] <siriusnova> dunno mrkoje
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: There is a card reader on it (one of the all-in-one types), I know that.  IR, I don't think so.  So I'll just keep that part in mind, and see if I can find anything about that part later.
[11:28] <mrkoje> eobanb,  It can be done... I think there is a project right now on it
[11:28] <pappan> SweetestSavage: which compiler are you using ?
[11:28] <platos> thunder: from what country are you?
[11:28] <mrkoje> eobanb,  ya it would be pretty cool
[11:28] <SweetestSavage> pappan, the linux one =P
[11:28] <SweetestSavage> I'm on AMD64
[11:28] <SweetestSavage> gcc I guess?
[11:28] <pappan> i take that as gcc :)
[11:28] <SweetestSavage> Yes yes =)
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: Everything on my computer ran out of the box except the winmodem, which was a quick package install once I figured out what I needed, so that was all pretty sweet.
[11:28] <stephane> im tryin to get the readme to open.anybody knows how to?
[11:29] <pappan> can you paste line 145 of misc.h
[11:29] <thunder> platos, im spanish, and my english is very poor
[11:29] <pappan> also the declarations of the variables involved
[11:29] <platos> pico README
[11:29] <SweetestSavage> How would I access that, pappan?
[11:29] <platos> gedit README
[11:29] <platos> something like that
[11:29] <stephane> thanx
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: My suspend worked out of the box with the bios key combo.
[11:29] <thunder> platos, but i need learn english, the best documentation are in english
[11:29] <pappan> vi crypto51/misc.h
[11:29] <platos> thunder, ah ok, nice, i'm from holland myself
[11:29] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, usually if the card readers are internal usb devices it works fine as usb mass storage.  with laptops there can be all kinds of weird stuff, from detecting lids being closed to screen adjustment buttons or media keys or the aforementioned fingerprint readers or broadcom wireless cards...
[11:29] <pappan> :145
[11:30] <pappan> you will be on line 145
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: I don't have that option on my model.
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Does the thinkwiki mention fingerprint scanners at all?
[11:30] <pappan> vi +145 cryto51/misc.h -- this is better
[11:30] <thunder> platos, i have a hollydays in holland, i stay there about a mounth in a camping
[11:31] <SweetestSavage> pappan, the file was empty
[11:31] <platos> thunder, thats nice, around where are you staying in holidays?
[11:31] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrated_Fingerprint_Reader
[11:31] <pappan> thats strange.. let me think
[11:31] <thunder> platos, i was between nordwich and nordwirwerhod
[11:32] <thunder> platos, in hop hop vanzegenzen camping
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: Does HP have anything like the IBM ThinkPad buttons, and thus something corresponding to tpb?
[11:32] <redguy> SweetestSavage: you sure that you didn't misspell the path or the filename?
[11:32] <SweetestSavage> Positive
[11:32] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, i'm not sure.
[11:33] <platos> thunder, lol i don't know that place, maybe you got the wrong country? Holland is also called the netherlands...
[11:33] <pappan> SweetestSavage: do "ls -l crypto/misc.h"
[11:33] <pappan> SweetestSavage: do "ls -l crypto51/misc.h"
[11:33] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, check the ubuntu forums
[11:33] <SweetestSavage> One sec pappan, I managed to bypass it
[11:33] <SweetestSavage> With the help of dooglus, hehe
[11:34] <SweetestSavage> I'll catch you on the next one
[11:34] <SweetestSavage> If there's a next one..
[11:34] <pappan> SweetestSavage: what did you do ?
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: So it's says a driver was due in September; you haven't heard anything about that happening, I presume?
[11:34] <thunder> platos, i know, i go there to smoke weed, there are a small village, you know leiden?
[11:35] <SweetestSavage> pappan, it was.. sed -i 's/(unsigned int)p/(unsigned int)(long)p/g' src/crypto51/misc.h
[11:35] <pappan> but that just bypasses the error.. it may be a buggy code
[11:36] <SweetestSavage> Ah, I know.
[11:36] <SweetestSavage> It may not need it.. we'll see. It seems to be a miniscule part of the code, from what I remember
[11:36] <pappan> SweetestSavage: ok :)
[11:37] <platos> thunder, yeah i know leiden and i practically live to the east of there, near enschede
[11:37] <michael> whats the disk checkers command?
[11:37] <mrkoje> I haven't heard anything but I haven't really dived much into it. I will.. "dive" into that problem after I get my thinkpad somtime in the next few weeks.
[11:37] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,
[11:37] <platos> michael: fsck, but don't run on an mounted system
[11:37] <michael> k thx
[11:38] <aaron_> hey all.
[11:38] <michael> will it fix if ichmoded everthing in the /etc dir ot 644
[11:38] <aaron_> I'm trying to get Mozilla to recognize chinese character encoding.
[11:38] <aaron_> can anyone help?
[11:38] <thunder> platos, i love this town is the best i think
[11:38] <eobanb> aaron_, you need to install chinese fonts.
[11:39] <eobanb> see the ubuntu faq, the Fonts section, for more info
[11:39] <platos> michael, what is your problem?
[11:39] <aaron_> OK, cool; how do I do that. . . . oh, whoops I must have joined the wrong channel . . this is a straight up debian box and my ubuntu system is at home.
[11:40] <eobanb> aaron_, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-fonts
[11:40] <eobanb> i'm sure there are very similar packages for debian.
[11:40] <SweetestSavage> pappan, new error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5915
[11:40] <aaron_> thanks eobanb
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: You were saying...?
[11:42] <MrFarts> anyone ever seen gimp freezing X /
[11:42] <thunder> i cant open amule, error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_core-2.6.so.0, is amule-cvs, somebody can help me plss?
[11:42] <pappan> SweetestSavage: i guess you are better off finding the option in gcc which will not flag this as error
[11:42] <SweetestSavage> Yeah, probably.
[11:43] <SweetestSavage> How would I go about doing that?
[11:43] <pappan> let me check
[11:43] <pappan> i guess you are using g++
[11:43] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso, hven't heard anything but I haven't really dived much into it. I will.. "dive" into that problem after I get my thinkpad somtime in the next few weeks.
[11:43] <eobanb> MrFarts, if X appears to freeze as a result of the gimp, you can switch to a vterm with alt-control-F1, login, and use kill or killall to stop gimp, and switch back to X and see if everything works again.
[11:44] <MrFarts> eobanb, nope
[11:44] <MrFarts> eobanb, it's a pretty hard freeze
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Right.
[11:44] <MrFarts> eobanb, in fact it appears to take linux along with it
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: There's always the fun part about talking to tech support.
[11:44] <eobanb> so switching to vterms doesnt work?
[11:44] <mustard5> MrFarts, done a memtest at all?
[11:45] <thunder> i cant understand it because libwxgtk2.6.0 is installed
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: They get kind of confused when you mention Linux, and then either tell you it isn't supported, or if you're lucky, they find someone else in the room who can answer the question.
[11:45] <platos> thunder, well you probably need the libwxgtk2.6.0-dev or something like that
[11:46] <MrFarts> mustard5, yes, memory is fine
[11:46] <MrFarts> mustard5, it only happens with gimp
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Somewhat frustrating when you know perfectly well that your question doesn't require linux support to answer, only knowledge that IBM people should have, but their script says to reply "not supported" when Linux is mentioned.
[11:46] <MrFarts> mustard5, and it happens reliably
[11:46] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  I wouldn't even waste my time with the companies tech support.. they seldomly know anything at all
[11:46] <eobanb> MrFarts, can you switch to virtual consoles?
[11:46] <mustard5> MrFarts, are you using a different version of gimp than the repos?
[11:47] <thunder> platos, it is installed too
[11:47] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  oh I see what your saying... ya that can be annoying
[11:47] <negativecreep> hi all
[11:47] <eobanb> i once called cingular and they didnt know what GPRS was.
[11:47] <negativecreep> need help with a ssh scenario
[11:47] <mrkoje> eobanb,  now that is funny
[11:47] <negativecreep> my scenario is like this.
[11:48] <platos> thunder, why don't you install the deb?
[11:48] <negativecreep> srv1 --> srv2 --> srv3
[11:48] <MrFarts> eobanb, no man, i already told you that the whole system freezes
[11:48] <MrFarts> eobanb, i can't switch vcs
[11:48] <negativecreep> my private key is on srv1 and pub key on srv2 for key based auth.
[11:48] <MrFarts> mustard5, no
[11:48] <negativecreep> i can login to srv3 from srv2 only.
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Which of course is why IRC exists, right?
[11:48] <mrkoje> eobanb,  tonyyarusso  when ever I have to call a company for tech support I immediatly ask for the 3rd tier of advanced support....
[11:48] <mustard5> MrFarts, hmmmm
[11:48] <MrFarts> mustard5, standard ubuntu breezy packaged gimp
[11:48] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  yup :)
[11:48] <negativecreep> is there some way that srv2 can relay key auth request from srv3 to srv1
[11:48] <MrFarts> mustard5, i have a radeon 7000 though
[11:48] <negativecreep> ??
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: And that works?
[11:48] <mustard5> MrFarts, have you tried totally removing it and reinstalling?
[11:48] <mrkoje> god my English is horrible tonight.
[11:49] <MrFarts> mustard5, it's a friggin' application
[11:49] <MrFarts> mustard5, it should't crash the system
[11:49] <pappan> dooglus: any idea of a g++ option ?
[11:49] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  No, they usually complain but after I spend 10 seconds explaining that I know a great deal more about computer systems then the tier 1 person ever will they reluctantly pass me on.
[11:49] <Renski> can someone point me to a link to setup apt?
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Interesting.  I may have to try that.
[11:49] <negativecreep> anyone has any ideas??
[11:49] <SweetestSavage> Okay, pappan, I got a hardware error.. can you help me with that?
[11:49] <Aton> u know what i noticed i have the same problem as everione using integreted sound cards on motherboard but i have genius 5.1 live sound card in the pci slot and have the same problem just does not want to work
[11:49] <SweetestSavage> I managed to finish the compile
[11:49] <m0r0n> Do I just have to replace the term hoary by breezy in the sourcelist and to enter apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:50] <mustard5> MrFarts, k..so you suspect it is to do with your graphics card?
[11:50] <SweetestSavage> It says it cannot find a sound driver that works..
[11:50] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  I guess that makes me sonewhat self-inflated but I can't stand talking to someone that really does't have to do or know anything besides what it says to read in the "manual"
[11:50] <MrFarts> mustard5, i don't know
[11:50] <SweetestSavage> So, I gotta install my sound drivers.
[11:50] <MrFarts> mustard5, but installing an apllication is preposterous
[11:50] <MrFarts> re-installing that is
[11:50] <mustard5> MrFarts, k..I'm sorry to have offended you :)
[11:50] <MrFarts> basically it's either a software bug or a hardware bug being provoked by software
[11:51] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know how to install Sound Drivers?
[11:51] <MrFarts> a software bug in X.org/the radeon kernel module
[11:51] <MrFarts> or a bug in the hardware itself
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: It's only self-inflation if it isn't fitting.  If you actually know more than the support people I'm pretty sure you're in the clear.
[11:51] <MrFarts> i would like to know which of those 3 it is if someone has seen the problem
[11:51] <tico> hello does ubuntu and kubuntu has a Community Newsletter for suscribers or something like that?
[11:51] <negativecreep> All, anyone willing to help with a ssh scenario??
[11:52] <thunder> platos, why if i remove amule, i can ejecute amule 
[11:52] <seniorsepia> how can i establish connection to VPN L2TP server? or any links on this theme?
[11:52] <mustard5> MrFarts, I can't help you with that sorry
[11:53] <Alex_BO> HELLO!Is there a way to suspend Linux as in Windows?
[11:53] <Lagro> I can't mount my CD-rom, at  sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide, I receive: mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[11:53] <mrkoje> tonyyarusso,  I only do that though if I know my question would "probably" be beyond that of a 1st tier support person though... If I call tmobile and need to find out somthing little...  you know what I mean
[11:53] <pappan> SweetestSavage: i can give it a shot
[11:53] <thunder> platos, aptitude remove amule, but i have amule of all forms
[11:53] <Lagro> What to do?
[11:53] <Weiss> SweetestSavage: are you finding all of the 64-bit-awareness bugs in all the software?
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: It's going to depend on your hardware.  Are you already running Ubuntu, or doing preliminary research?
[11:53] <SweetestSavage> pappan, alright.. I have a RealTek Onboard AC97 sound
[11:53] <SweetestSavage> Weiss, I bypassed 'em all
[11:53] <pappan> ok
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> mrkoje: Of course.
[11:54] <SweetestSavage> I managed to get the program to run, but, it says it cannot find a suitable sound driver that works.
[11:54] <SweetestSavage> So, I gotta install my sound card
[11:54] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, well...i have ubuntu breezy now. i haven't ever do prelimiary research
[11:55] <pappan> SweetestSavage: ok
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Does the computer have some sort of key combo for the BIOS that is supposed to make it suspend?  (Mine for instance is Fn-F4, and worked out of the box.)
[11:55] <SweetestSavage> It is an ALC850
[11:55] <mrkoje> Alex_BO,  If your having a problem with that I think you need to check out acpi? Somthing like that
[11:56] <SweetestSavage> pappan, I found drivers on my Motherboard disc =)
[11:56] <SweetestSavage> Will they work on any platform, 32-bit or 64-bit?
[11:56] <Lagro> mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist  - What does it mean?
[11:56] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, i have Fn-F4 too, but it doesn't work (it does only a BIP)
[11:56] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  you got linux drivers on your motherboard disk?
[11:56] <pinkisntwell> I installed winamp for linux using alien and it doesn't start
[11:56] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, however, in Windows  it worked
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: You may have to uncomment a line that says something like sleep = yes in an acpi configuration file, but I don't remember where off the top of my head.
[11:57] <SweetestSavage> Yes I do mrkoje. It looks as though I gotta recompile them.
[11:57] <Aton> heh you just gave me an idea ill just install some drivers from mi driver cd for my soundcard
[11:57] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  thats great... ya don't see that much...
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: And maybe change which level that calls (3 or 1, I believe).
[11:57] <thunder> platos, i remove binaries manually and all ok
[11:58] <pappan> SweetestSavage: i guess it should work
[11:58] <SweetestSavage> pappan, okay, I'll let you know when it recompiles
[11:59] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, more /proc/acpi/sleep      S0 S3 S4 S5
[11:59] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, what does it means?
[11:59] <gorthaug> hi
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> pappan, I got an error =(
[12:00] <pappan> oops whats it
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> pappan: /home/jeff/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.4/kbuild/../drivers/serialmidi.c:325: warning: passing arg 3 of pointer to function makes integer from pointer without a cast
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> pappan: /home/jeff/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.4/kbuild/../drivers/serialmidi.c:325: error: too many arguments to function
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> Those two
[12:00] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, look at this: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html
[12:01] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Not sure.  Possibly the different levels available to you?
[12:01] <gorthaug> i'm in breezy and i'm searching for the package kernel-source-2.6.12
[12:01] <gorthaug> where is it?
[12:01] <pappan> please do vi +325 serialmidi.c and paste the line here
[12:01] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: What is this computer?
[12:02] <Alex_BO> tonyyarusso, Acer Aspire 1524 WLMi
[12:02] <bimberi> gorthaug: linux-source-2.6.12
[12:02] <carlao> ciao
[12:02] <SweetestSavage> pappan, any idea?
[12:02] <gorthaug> am... ok
[12:02] <mrkoje> night all...
[12:02] <wayde> night
[12:02] <gorthaug> thx bimberi
[12:02] <carlao> italiani non ce ne sono....
[12:02] <mustard5> MrFarts, does this sound like your bug? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317598
[12:02] <_jason> !it
[12:02] <ubotflu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:03] <KaRupT> How can ya see what modules are loaded right now?
[12:03] <pappan> pls paste the line here.. so that we can see it
[12:03] <bimberi> gorthaug: np :)
[12:03] <pappan> KaRupT: lsmod
[12:03] <KaRupT> thx
[12:03] <SweetestSavage> pappan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919
[12:03] <Lagro> Anybody know why my CD-ROM doesn't work, what's mean: "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist"?
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Open up /etc/default/acpi-support in a text editor.
[12:03] <SweetestSavage> pappan, it's at the bottom
[12:04] <gorthaug> and why linux-source and not kernel-source?? there is various packages called kernel-source-2.x.x
[12:04] <KaRupT> pappan, now how can i take the output of lsmod and send it to a txt file, so i can do it later to another txt file and run a diff
[12:04] <Aton> /usr/src/linux/Document/sound how the hell should i install drivers in this directory?!? if it does not exist :S
[12:04] <MrFarts> mustard5, similar
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Uncomment the line: ACPI_SLEEP=true.
[12:04] <MrFarts> mustard5, it usually happens after  a paste or a rotation
[12:04] <MrFarts> at least for me
[12:04] <ZiX> people, how to get WMII on Ubuntu?>
[12:04] <_jason> KaRupT, lsmod > file
[12:05] <pappan> SweetestSavage: vi +325 /home/jeff/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.4/kbuild/../drivers/serialmidi.c
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: I'm not sure if you then have to reload something, or if so how to do so.  For sure it will take effect after a reboot, but of course that can be annoying, so maybe just write this down now for later trail.
[12:05] <pappan> what is the source code
[12:05] <mustard5> MrFarts, k
[12:06] <MrFarts> mustard5, this thread doesn't seem too meaningful... there is no explanation or fix ..
[12:06] <NewComer> hi
[12:06] <SweetestSavage> pappan: count = driver->write(tty, 0, buf, count);
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: After your next boot, try the key sequence to suspend, or call /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[12:06] <mustard5> MrFarts, no..its unconfirmed atm
[12:06] <Aton> where is the sound driver in ubuntu?!?
[12:06] <mustard5> MrFarts, there is no resolution..so you might have discovered another aspect of it
[12:06] <MrFarts> mustard5, great
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: If that doesn't work, try editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:07] <pappan> SweetestSavage: hmm..
[12:07] <MrFarts> mustard5, basically i can't use gimp
[12:07] <ZiX> i think i'm going to switch back to Debian
[12:07] <pappan> SweetestSavage: not sure whats happening
[12:07] <ZiX> :o
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Find the kernel entry, and add pci=noacpi acpi_sleep=s3_bios to it.
[12:07] <MrFarts> mustard5, that sucks
[12:07] <SweetestSavage> Hmm =/
[12:07] <mustard5> MrFarts, you can go through the whole list of bugs if you like and see if it might be another one http://www.gimp.org/bugs/
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Test that out.  If still no luck, s1 instead of s3 might work, but use more power.
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: Okay, now that's all I have.  Have you tried any of that already?
[12:08] <ssstormy> this is sad...
[12:08] <ssstormy> I've decided to get wine
[12:08] <ssstormy> and emulate WMP10
[12:08] <_jason> ssstormy, why
[12:09] <ssstormy> cause the linux media players just don't wanna handle the obscure formats
[12:09] <ssstormy> in fact, totem dosn't seem to want to handle any formats
[12:09] <ssstormy> XP
[12:09] <platos> ssstormy: use vlc player
[12:09] <Ng> ssstormy: which formats?
[12:09] <platos> ssstormy: runs nearly everything
[12:09] <ssstormy> avi, asf, mp4
[12:09] <SweetestSavage> pappan, does that help?
[12:09] <ssstormy> oh and wmv
[12:09] <Ng> ssstormy: they are not supported by default for legal reasons, see the RestrictedFormats wiki page for instructions to install codecs
[12:10] <mustard5> MrFarts, its up to you whether you want to report the bug.  It probably won't get fixed if no-one knows about it
[12:10] <_jason> ssstormy, have you tried mplayer
[12:10] <ssstormy> I've added win32 codecs
[12:10] <Aton> how do i get my cd out of the comp :S
[12:10] <SweetestSavage> Aton
[12:10] <ssstormy> yeah I have mplayer and it works great
[12:10] <Ng> ssstormy: then you should be able to play such files
[12:10] <Aton> its not a joke
[12:10] <ssstormy> except it's got bugs
[12:10] <Aton> it stoped responding
[12:10] <SweetestSavage> Click on the button in the bottom left hand corner, on the bar there. Then, right click on the CD-Rom drive, and select Eject
[12:10] <ssstormy> involving the kind of mp4 files I'm playing
[12:10] <Viper12> grab the essential codec pack from mplayer website.  extract em' to the /usr/lib/win32 directory............replace totem gstreamer with totem-xine, and no mo' problems.
[12:10] <Aton> thanx
[12:10] <SweetestSavage> No problem, I have that problem too.
[12:11] <ssstormy> they have this encoding that's like a newer form of xvid
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> Alex_BO: See http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html for an explanation of the S-states you saw before in /proc/acpi/sleep
[12:11] <Aton> now this looked silly
[12:11] <Aton> it just didnt wanted to open
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: It's a matter of what extras you've installed, not the player.   I've used rhythmbox, vlc, totem, and mplayer to play those formats.
[12:12] <CaptainMorgan> finger
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: Had you done the step Viper12 mentioned?
[12:14] <SweetestSavage> pappan
[12:14] <SweetestSavage> I think you asked me to copy and paste the wrong line
[12:15] <SweetestSavage> The error is stated as such: /home/jeff/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.4/kbuild/../drivers/serialmidi.c:325: error: too many arguments to function
[12:15] <SweetestSavage> Oh nevermind, you did ask me to look at the right one.
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> What exactly does booting the install CD with the rescue parameter ("Rescue Mode") allow you to do?
[12:17] <Aton> ok
[12:17] <Aton> i guess genius doesnt suporrt linux any more :S
[12:17] <ssstormy> tonyyarusso, I'm trying that right nwo
[12:17] <ssstormy> the file is just kinda large
[12:18] <m0r0n> Do I have to upgrade to breezy to get OpenOffice2 installed?
[12:18] <Aton> has any1 here tried to play AAO on linux?!?
[12:18] <m0r0n> What is AA0 ? :-)
[12:19] <Aton> americas army operations
[12:19] <bimberi> !ooo2
[12:19] <ubotflu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[12:19] <Aton> the best online free fps game the is
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> m0r0n: You can either get it from their website, or presumably change to the breezy repos just long enough to get oo, and then switch back.
[12:19] <m0r0n> If I want to play I switch to winxp
[12:19] <Aton> heh
[12:20] <Chousuke> Why? The best games are available for Linux anyway ;P
[12:20] <Aton> :D
[12:20] <Aton> well certainly
[12:20] <m0r0n> F.E.A.R for Linux ? :-)
[12:20] <Chousuke> pah.
[12:20] <Aton> but i wish i had my 5.1 sound enabled
[12:20] <Chousuke> I'm talking about Frozen Bubble and ADOM
[12:21] <Aton> it just does not want to work right
[12:21] <ryanmt> Hi every one, got a bash question.  How would i find out which of the directorys in the root is taking up the most space?
[12:21] <Chousuke> Frozen bubble is simply amazing.
[12:21] <Aton> heh
[12:21] <m0r0n> tonyyarusso, thanks for the advice
[12:21] <Chousuke> everyone I've shown it has become addicted to it.
[12:22] <oskude> ryanmt, hmm, "du"
[12:22] <tsw> ryanmt: du -h --max-depth=1
[12:22] <ryanmt> ah, cunning. Cheers guys :D
[12:23] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> m0r0n: np.  (Of course, I was seriously impressed with a few of the improvements between Hoary and Breezy, so you might want to consider it anyway.)
[12:24] <Aton> chousuke what is frozen buble :$
[12:24] <Chousuke> Aton: a game.
[12:24] <Chousuke> Aton: sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[12:25] <Aton> gotta try it
[12:25] <Viper12> yep, that'll be the last we hear of Aton for...........awhile.  lmao
[12:25] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know AC97's support with 64-bit platforms?
[12:25] <Aton> lol
[12:25] <oskude> Viper12, :)
[12:25] <Aton> gota download 13mb's first ;)
[12:26] <Viper12> gotta be a close second to that stupid kat kanon web thing in terms of annoyingly addictive waste of time.  heh heh
[12:26] <Aton> i like linux becouse my internet connection is about 30kb/s faster :D
[12:26] <ryanmt> how would i list all files on the disk larger than 1gb in bash?
[12:27] <Renski> im trying to use the mail command to automaticly script the sending of an email, but im getting the following error message...
[12:27] <ryanmt> i use a smoothwall for my router its faster than using a windooze machine
[12:27] <aquarion> find . -size +1024M
[12:27] <Renski> "send-mail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[12:27] <Renski> "
[12:27] <ssstormy> ah
[12:27] <ChrisBradley> Help!
[12:27] <ssstormy> I was in here about codecs earlier
[12:27] <aquarion> ryanmt, `find . -size +1024M`
[12:27] <ssstormy> the one I am using is X264
[12:27] <Renski> Does anyone have any ideas?
[12:27] <ryanmt> thanks :)
[12:28] <ChrisBradley> How do you install a panel menu in Gnome under umbuntu?
[12:28] <ChrisBradley> I need my "Applications
[12:28] <aquarion> Renski, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow postfix`
[12:28] <Aton> im off for some frozen buble
[12:28] <ChrisBradley> list to fill out
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> It doesn't seem like my fan (laptop) really changes speed.  (IBM ThinkPad T43)  Is it possible the system is just always running at about the same level, or is this potentially something not working right?  (I noticed this mainly when I tried leaving the computer on when I went to bed.)
[12:29] <Renski> ah
[12:29] <Renski> thank you
[12:29] <shadox> eurhm guys i got a heavy problem
[12:29] <ryanmt> aquarion, is there any way to get that to display hte size of the files it finds rather than just outputing their names?
[12:29] <shadox> when i minimalize my windows they do not appear in my lower taskbar :s
[12:29] <Renski> aquarion: this isnt a mail server, im just scripting a panic message, which config should I choose?
[12:30] <KaRupT> is there like the oppisite of partitioning? like 5 disks make one partition??
[12:30] <ChrisBradley> got kicker?
[12:30] <aquarion> ryanmt, `find . -size +1M -exec ls -l {} \;`
[12:30] <mjr> KaRupT, you want RAID or LVM
[12:31] <aquarion> Renski, Not sure what you mean. The message you're getting is because the script cannot send out the mail because the mail server isn't configured
[12:31] <ryanmt> thanks
[12:31] <aquarion> ryanmt, Er, there was a bug in that script
[12:31] <aquarion> ryanmt, `find . -size +1024M -exec ls -l {} \;`
[12:32] <aquarion> (The first one found all files over 1 megabyte)
[12:32] <sample> :)
[12:34] <GudBau> hello
[12:34] <GudBau> is possible have glibc into ubuntu ????????
[12:34] <shadox> thnx shadox for your amazing help :d
[12:35] <shadox> other question :D  how do i install my win32 codecs. i have .deb file on my desktop
[12:36] <linuxboy> dpkg -i <filename>
[12:36] <oskude> shadox, if its an ubuntu package "sudo dpkg -i file"
[12:36] <selinium> shadox, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/w32codecs.deb
[12:36] <ryanmt> aquarion, how would i do 0 bytes for empty files (0c or 0k doesnt work)
[12:36] <Viper12> just make sure that the codecs are dropped into the /usr/lib/win32 directory though.
[12:36] <ssstormy> is it possible to write to a ntfs partition in ubuntu?
[12:36] <shadox> oskude, thnx i'll try
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !ntfs
[12:36] <ubotflu> Hobbsee: Are you on ritalin?
[12:36] <shadox> selinium thnx
[12:36] <ssstormy> also, how do I make an ntfs partition readable by non-root users?
[12:36] <Hobbsee> ssstormy: it's known to be buggy
[12:36] <xRaal> GudBau: yes apt-get install libc6
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !mount
[12:36] <ubotflu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:36] <GudBau> glibc
[12:36] <GudBau> not libc
[12:37] <aquarion> ryanmt, The plus at the end means "All above this". Try  `find . -size 0`
[12:37] <xRaal> is it just me, or dont firefox work in ubuntu 6.04
[12:37] <Hobbsee> ssstormy: follow the second guide, and use a umask of 000, and stick "ro" in there
[12:37] <Hobbsee> xRaal: dont work - need more information
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Viper12: I don't remember doing that dpkg; is /usr/lib/win32 supposed to happen by default, or do you need to copy them there always?
[12:37] <ryanmt> ahh, that works :) cheers
[12:37] <xRaal> firefox 1.5
[12:37] <oskude> GudBau, isnt glibc = GNU C Library ?
[12:38] <GudBau> hemm
[12:38] <GudBau> :P
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: I've heard it's possible to write to ntfs, but very strongly discouraged (as in, chances are the drive will jump onto the floor, squeal a bit, and die).
[12:38] <Viper12> not sure tony.........I never used the 'deb'....I took the zip file from mplayers site and just extracted em' to that location.  What I'm referring to is making sure that once the package is done, check that section to make sure they got there.
[12:38] <shadox> oskude, i received an error
[12:38] <Viper12> if the package is setup right, should be okay.
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: Reading shouldn't be a problem though, check the mounting permissions in fstab perhaps?
[12:38] <xRaal> when i "run" firefox 1.5 in ubuntu 6.04 i just get a window containing some red letters (cant remember becource i downgraded firefox to 1.4
[12:39] <oskude> shadox, thought so :) (if its not ubuntu breezy package)
[12:39] <shadox> oskude:  dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[12:39] <ssstormy> dang
[12:39] <ssstormy> I could have sworn II had support in the installer
[12:39] <oskude> shadox, ok, close synaptic (or other package manager)
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Viper12: Got it.
[12:39] <ssstormy> so I was hoping...
[12:40] <aquarion> xRaal, Your firefox profile might be corrupted. Try "mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old" and restarting firefox and see if that fixes it
[12:40] <oskude> shadox, you can also download the tarball with the codecs and just copy them to /usr/lib/win32 (as Viper12 said)
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to do a manual click-this-button-style check for updates in Firefox 1.5, or does it's new update checker take over all control of the process?
[12:40] <xRaal> aquarion: it dosent fix it
[12:40] <shadox> oskude, aha, i think i found my mistake, my ubuntu is updating, could that be the problem?
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: There is resize support in the installer, however.
[12:41] <oskude> shadox, yes :) wait until synaptic is ready
[12:41] <aquarion> Okay. They problem is that it's trying to use bits of both firefox installs, and 1.0 layout bits are not compatible with 1.5 layout bits
[12:41] <ssstormy> aaugh
[12:41] <shadox> oskude, hmm :( that will be a long time "updating 451 packages"
[12:41] <ssstormy> I tried the add mplayer codecs to /usr/lib/win32
[12:41] <ssstormy> but it didn't help my other apps
[12:41] <oskude> shadox, ouch
[12:41] <ssstormy> totem still dosn't wrok/ crashes...
[12:41] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know of any 64-bit compatibility with AC97 sound drivers?
[12:42] <shadox> oskude, uhu
[12:42] <xRaal> aquarion: but i think it just me, it sounds like firefox 1.5 is running fine under ubuntu 6.04 at your place
[12:42] <_jason> ssstormy, use totem-xine
[12:42] <ssstormy> it is
[12:42] <Viper12> best place to get the complete set of codecs is:   http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html  the tar is 'essential codecs'.
[12:42] <_jason> ssstormy, how does it crash, do you get errors
[12:42] <ssstormy> Viper12, oh no, I got all of them
[12:42] <ssstormy> the all package
[12:42] <Viper12> As far as totem is concerned ssstormy, what version of totem?  gstreamer or xine?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: Try reinstalling the players after the codecs have been copied there.  I think they have to look for and find them in the installation process for the new codecs to be recognized.
[12:42] <Viper12> tony, if the player is xine, no reinstall requireed.
[12:43] <ssstormy> quit unexpectedly
[12:43] <Viper12> you don't /shouldn't even have to refresh anything.
[12:43] <ssstormy> you can inform devls
[12:43] <_jason> ssstormy, with all files, or some specific ones?
[12:43] <ssstormy> or you can restart
[12:43] <ssstormy> that's what it says
[12:43] <ssstormy> that's with a .mp4
[12:43] <Viper12> if you're using gstreamer though............totem croaks.
[12:43] <ssstormy> encoded in X264
[12:43] <ssstormy> I think it was
[12:43] <_jason> ssstormy, start it in a terminal and see what it spits out
[12:43] <ssstormy> the asf gives only sound
[12:43] <ssstormy> ok
[12:44] <shadox> brb
[12:44] <shadox> reboot
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] AVC: Consumed only 1465 bytes instead of 540
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] error, NO frame
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] mb_type 274 in P slice to large at 0 0
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] error while decoding MB 0 0
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] concealing errors
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] illegal short term buffer state detected
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] concealing errors
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] illegal short term buffer state detected
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] concealing errors
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] mb_type 33 in P slice to large at 0 0
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] error while decoding MB 0 0
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] illegal short term buffer state detected
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] concealing errors
[12:44] <oskude> O.o
[12:44] <_jason> don't paste here in the future ssstormy
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] top block unavailable for requested intra mode at 0 0
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] error while decoding MB 0 0
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] illegal short term buffer state detected
[12:44] <ssstormy> [h264 @ 0xb6a6fe50] concealing errors
[12:44] <ssstormy> totem: h264.c:2545: fill_default_ref_list: Assertion `best_i != -1' failed.
[12:44] <ssstormy> yeah... how else do I do it?
[12:44] <oskude> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotflu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:45] <Viper12> ssstormy,  check here for the 264 codec.........its an oddball.   http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
[12:45] <Viper12> vlc should play that file no sweat actually.
[12:45] <ssstormy> it looks like it has the codec, just not working
[12:45] <ssstormy> ok I'll try vlc
[12:46] <Viper12> if you look at the link I shot ya just above....it appears that  this warning is in place:  BIG FAT WARNING: x264 is still in early development stage
[12:46] <Viper12> so its probably not totem or you.
[12:46] <Viper12> but vlc should work.
[12:46] <Viper12> now smoke time.  brb
[12:46] <_jason> is it possible to pipe standard error?
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> Can someone translate an address for me?  (Feeling stupid...): tjlmorris gm a il
[12:47] <_jason> huh?
[12:47] <oskude> _jason, try "..... 2&>filename.txt"
[12:47] <_jason> oskude, can I pipe it directly to another program though
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> Trying to figure out the contact info for the author of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinningTheDesktop.
[12:47] <_jason> oskude, like ... | grep blah
[12:47] <oskude> _jason, try "..... 2& | anotherporgram"
[12:48] <_jason> okay, will try
[12:48] <oskude> _jason, http://sc.tamu.edu/help/general/unix/redirection.html
[12:48] <oskude> _jason, my second line is worng!
[12:49] <oskude> _jason, prog1 2>| prog2
[12:49] <SweetestSavage> Anyone here good with sound card stuff?
[12:50] <oskude> _jason, and this would be standard and error output "prog 2>&1| prog2"
[12:50] <_jason> oskude, nice thanks
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy: Just found this: gstreamer0.8-mad - Add MP3 support for Rhythmbox; do you have that package?
[12:54] <shadox> shadox is back
[12:54] <shadox> well eurhm the win32codec line did not work
[12:55] <dooglus> pappan: what g++ option?
[12:56] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: did it work by the way?
[12:56] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, yes.. except.. it didn't find a suitable sound driver.
[12:56] <SweetestSavage> And, I need to install my sound card..
[12:56] <SweetestSavage> Problem is, I don't know if there's Linux 64-bit drivers for them..
[12:56] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: try "pkill esd".  I find esd is always getting in the way
[12:56] <shadox> "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration w32codecs" does anyone now what to do??
[12:57] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, wow, it worked!
[12:57] <SweetestSavage> Thank you =)
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> Why don't I have the checkbox for enabling Windows networking in the general tab of network-admin?
[12:58] <SweetestSavage> *hums* This is great, thanks so much dooglus.
[12:58] <dooglus> I'm glad I could help.  I'm also amazed it worked with all that dodgy double-casting :)
[12:58] <SweetestSavage> Haha, me too.
[12:58] <SweetestSavage> It was only what.. 4-5 of them though?
[12:58] <SweetestSavage> Although, one buggy line of code can ruin it all.
[12:58] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: are you going to pass on the 4 or 5 fixes to the author?
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Look through the output and see if you can find out which things it depended on, apt-get them, and try again.
[12:59] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, I might aswell. He may come up with a solution, though, I left him a message.
[12:59] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: I wouldn't suggest he 'fixes' it like we did - but at least it tells him where he needs to look.
[12:59] <jan__> hi, what is the deal with multiverse repositories, do they cost money or what? I have added these repositories but still i dont find all the packages im supposed to...
[12:59] <shadox> tonyyarusso, :$ dunno how to do that, i'm 2 days on ubuntu
[01:00] <dooglus> jan__: they don't cost money, they just have restrictive licenses
[01:00] <dooglus> jan__: bordering on the illegal
[01:00] <dooglus> jan__: like decrypting DVDs, and such like
[01:00] <jan__> dooglus, ok, so one have to register for access to the arcives?
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Can you copy everything between when you issued the command to when it finished with the error to pastebin, and then we'll go through it.
[01:01] <jan__> dooglus, i c, thanks for the help..
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> jan__: Nope.
[01:01] <shadox> tonyyarusso, pastebin? :$
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> jan__: If it's in there and you've added the apt-line, you're good.
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> jan__: You might find the universe repo handy too.
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> ubotflu, tell shadox about pastebin
[01:02] <anthony_> can anybody help me with wine????
[01:02] <jan__> tonyyarusso, jepp, i hava added all that is default in the breezy install..
[01:02] <joedj> can i configure my C/C++ compiler through update-alternatives?
[01:03] <anthony_> has anybody gotten "steam" to work in wine
[01:03] <robotgeek> joedj: gcc ?
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Woah, hey, the pastebin address changed.  When did that happen?
[01:03] <anthony_> anybody know anything about wine
[01:04] <ejofee> grub doesn't want to boot win xp (since i have installed ubuntu). please help me access my win xp!
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> shadox: And then put the address of the post here.
[01:04] <jan__> tonyyarusso, i still don't find a packages like: gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse.  How come?
[01:04] <robotgeek> joedj: what alternatives to gcc do you have?
[01:04] <joedj> robotgeek: update-alternatives --config gcc says No alternatives for gcc (gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 are installed, currently there's no /usr/bin/gcc symlink)
[01:04] <alexissoft> hi
[01:04] <shadox> tonyyarusso, got it , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5921
[01:04] <jan__> tonyyarusso, found that i should install the package in the wiki
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> jan__: Just ask for gstreamer0.8-plugins, and it will find it in multiverse on its own.
[01:04] <robotgeek> joedj: you do export CC=gcc-3.4 and compile
[01:05] <jan__> tonyyarusso, ok, thanks
[01:05] <joedj> robotgeek: sadly, these configure scripts i'm trying to use don't comply
[01:05] <robotgeek> joedj: uggh, which ones?
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> jan__: Wait, actually I see that one here too, one moment.
[01:05] <joedj> robotgeek: katapult sources, but from sourceforge not the ubuntu repo
[01:05] <desplesda> i've got a problem with setting up a machine, at the first boot it stops at "Preparing for installation"
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> jan__: You're absolutely right, there should be that package name.
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> jan__: Can you post your apt line?
[01:06] <robotgeek> joedj: you can set it up in /etc/alternatives, or just symlink it
[01:07] <jan__> tonyyarusso, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> shadox: All right, can you try some things in a command line?
[01:08] <robotgeek> joedj: uninstall one :)
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> jan__: I meant the line for the multiverse repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <shadox> tonyyarusso, i'll try
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> shadox: What architecture are you working with?
[01:09] <robotgeek> joedj: are you trying to compile with gcc-3.4 ?
[01:09] <shadox> tonyyarusso achitecture? :$ euhm you mean gnome or kde or ...
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Sorry, no.  Intel 32-bit x86, AMD64, or Mac?
[01:10] <shadox> tonyyarusso x86
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Okay.
[01:10] <carl> just did a dist-upgrade on a hoary box, having a little problem with mutt (i think)  detalis: http://sial.org/pbot/15043
[01:11] <jan__> tonyyarusso, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted; deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:11] <jan__>  deb-src http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Try: sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-i686
[01:11] <shadox> tonyyarusso k
[01:11] <jan__> tonyyarusso, hmm, i have just used synaptic 'til now, seems like i have some redundancy here.. just backports too
[01:12] <shadox> tonyyarusso, now he ask if i want to restart services
[01:12] <pappan> how do i find projects in ubuntu that need coders now ?
[01:13] <pappan> also any kernel coders here ?
[01:13] <_jason> pappan, launchpad I think
[01:13] <DarkMaul> i really need help, i just installed Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[01:13] <robotgeek> carl: sudo /etc/init.d/postfix stop && sudo apt-get -f install
[01:13] <DarkMaul> but every time i install the SMP kernel my system freezes
[01:13] <_jason> pappan, https://launchpad.net/
[01:14] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, this runs a lot better than it did in Windows =)
[01:14] <ogra> pappan, #ubuntu-kernel and #ubuntu-motu
[01:14] <carl> robotgeek, thanks.  it worked.
[01:14] <pappan> SweetestSavage: gr8 so you got it work
[01:14] <londonboi2k3> hi guys, what is the meta packege name for the kernel?
[01:14] <robotgeek> carl: awesome
[01:15] <ejofee> grub doesn't want to boot win xp (since i have installed ubuntu). please help me access my win xp!
[01:16] <carl> ejofee, what happens when you pick XP?
[01:16] <melonipoika> hi, i can't mount my digital camera anymore, before when i pluged it, it was in the desktop, but not any more...
[01:16] <londonboi2k3> is it linux-image-686-smp ?
[01:16] <jan__> tonyyarusso, could you give me your multiverse-directory?
[01:16] <melonipoika> i know that it has something to do with hal and hotplug
[01:17] <selinium> melonipoika, plug it in a try    sudo /etc/init.d/hotplud restart
[01:17] <selinium> melonipoika, plug it in a try    sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart     sorry
[01:18] <dougeBear> my system keeps automatically logging out. any clues on how to track source of problem?
[01:20] <platos> dougeBear: i had this problem when my disk was full
[01:20] <anthony__> shadox: How went the apt-get?
[01:20] <platos> dougeBear: try switching to a virtual console: ctrl+alt+F1
[01:21] <platos> dougeBear: and try to login from there
[01:21] <dougeBear> disk looks like it has lots of space. i'll try the virtual console. thanxs
[01:23] <anthony__> My XChat session died.  Things simply stopped responding.  No error message, I just couldn't see new messages anymore, so I had to reconnect to the server.  Any idea why?
[01:23] <Ophiocus> check your status window
[01:23] <Ophiocus> you may have pinged out
[01:24] <shadox> anthony__ : it asked me for restarting some services
[01:25] <anthony__> Ophiocus: It doesn't say anything.
[01:25] <ryanmt> what command would i run to see what proccess has a file open? ive tried ps but cant see anything to show me that
[01:25] <absolute> hallo guys
[01:25] <anthony__> shadox: What exactly did it say?
[01:25] <platos> ryanmt: ps aux | grep filename
[01:25] <sexcopter8000m> hey, i'm using gftp, how can i move files from one folder on an ftp server to another?
[01:25] <Ethan> hi, where is the page about java/flash and *.wmw stuff?
[01:25] <shadox> anthony__ eurhm i closed the terminal already
[01:26] <shadox> anthony__  my ubuntu is now updating 446 packages
[01:26] <ryanmt> doesnt seem to work, im looking for /var/log/messages
[01:26] <platos> ryanmt: what file are you looking for?
[01:26] <anthony__> shadox: All right let it do that.  In the future, only close the terminal when it works and you're happy.  This time, try again after the update, and then fill us in.
[01:27] <ryanmt> /var/log/messages
[01:27] <anthony__> !tell Ethan about RestrictedFormats
[01:27] <ryanmt> what process has that open
[01:27] <spola> when does ubuntu run .bashrc and .bash_profile?
[01:27] <Ethan> thanks
[01:27] <platos> ryanmt: i think that file is never open continually but just written too
[01:28] <mjr> profile is run for login shells, rc for others
[01:28] <anthony__> spola: I believe it's whenever you log in somewhere.
[01:28] <ryanmt> bashrc is done when you login i think
[01:28] <Ethan> spola when it starts a terminal or something like that
[01:28] <spola> so bashrc is for login, bash_profile is for terminal ?
[01:28] <Lukian> how do I add another user with sudo access using ubuntu?
[01:29] <kyncani> !sudoers
[01:29] <ubotflu> kyncani: Are you smoking crack?
[01:29] <kyncani> Lukian: /etc/sudoers
[01:29] <shadox> anthony__ updates completed
[01:29] <jan__> hi, how do one make programs start at machine startup?
[01:30] <shadox> anthony __ i'll try again
[01:30] <irvin> !sudo
[01:30] <ubotflu> irvin: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:30] <osfameron> ubotu has the flu?
[01:30] <ejofee> Carl: it says something about stage 2. what's most annoying is that grub somehow wants to persuade me i have installed win xp on an ext2 partition, but i am *absolutely* sure i installed it on a ntfs partition. ;)
[01:31] <anthony__> sexcopter8000m, right-click, rename, then the new name it will have with the path.  For instance, to move home.html to a subfolder pages/ in the same directory, rename home.html to pages/home.html
[01:31] <ejofee> osfameron: seems it does, poor little bot :(
[01:31] <carl> ejofee, where do you see ext2?
[01:31] <anthony__> jan__: System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs
[01:31] <sexcopter8000m> anthony__, does that mean i can't move it to a parent directory?
[01:32] <ejofee> carl: please wait
[01:32] <ejofee> carl: do you accept private messages?
[01:32] <carl> ejofee, actuallyu, I am abut to go to bed...
[01:32] <Lukian> how do i figure out what icon an application already on the menu is using?
[01:32] <carl> but post here, someine else may help
[01:32] <anthony__> ejofee: You might just need to change the filesystem ID with fdisk.  I had a problem with a fat32 partition not booting because it was identified as Compaq diagnostic.
[01:32] <Lukian> aka. what is openoffice2 writer's icon?
[01:33] <ejofee> carl: then could you please read this ?: http://pastebin.com/468769
[01:33] <anthony__> sexcopter8000m, Try home.html to ../home.html and see what happens.
[01:33] <carl> k
[01:33] <ejofee> anthony__: heck! what's wrong with grub? i thought it was... revolutionary. should i revert to lilo?!
[01:33] <carl> ejofee, nothing there...
[01:34] <anthony__> ejofee: It's not a grub thing.  I think it has to do with how the partition table was rewritten at a prior step.  Lilo probably wouldn't make any difference in the problem.
[01:34] <ejofee> carl: http://pastebin.com/470006
[01:34] <sexcopter8000m> anthony__, sussed it, just needed to enter the new path in full, thanks!
[01:35] <ejofee> carl: (excuse me)
[01:35] <anthony__> sexcopter8000m, np.
[01:35] <ejofee> anthony__: lilo wouldn't make any difference and... would work. this is what we should care about. so lilo's better.
[01:35] <anthony__> shadox: Have you tried the dpkg again to get the error?
[01:36] <anthony__> ejofee, I don't think it's an issue with the loader, but what's being loaded.
[01:36] <soundray> ejofee, why have you got /dev/ddd1 as a root device?
[01:36] <SweetestSavage> Hi uhm, I've got a slight problem..
[01:37] <soundray> ejofee, I've only ever heard of /dev/hdN and /dev/sdN as partition devices.
[01:37] <SweetestSavage> Okay, I formatted my partitions with Extended 3, mounted them.. and, when I rebooted, they're back inaccessible.. and it seems my files are gone.
[01:37] <ejofee> soundray: it's my typo. (i obviously couldn't copy&paste the bootup text.) it's "hdd".
[01:38] <_jason> SweetestSavage, what FS were they before?
[01:38] <SweetestSavage> Extended 3
[01:38] <carl> ejofee, change line 24 to root (hd0,1)
[01:38] <soundray> ejofee, okay.
[01:38] <carl> 50% it will wrk, wontnt hurt if it doesnt
[01:39] <soundray> SweetestSavage, formatting means erasing all files.
[01:39] <_jason> SweetestSavage, I don't really understand.  If they are inaccessible, how do you know the files are gone?
[01:39] <ejofee> carl: already tried all combinations (0,0) (0,1) (1,0) (1,1) :(
[01:39] <foxiness> can i get smart battery work with ubuntu ? or is this will work "outofthebox" on dapper ? thank you
[01:40] <anthony__> ejofee, Do you know how to look up the type with fdisk?
[01:40] <ejofee> carl: how do i force grub see it as ntfs?
[01:40] <SweetestSavage> I formatted them with Extended 3 file system about.. 7 hours ago. I mounted them to /main and /others (one big one to /main, the other 3 to /others). Then, I rebooted my system just now.. and I open up /main and it's empty.
[01:40] <SweetestSavage> I had put programs in there, now they're gone.
[01:40] <ejofee> anthony__: can't i use gparted?
[01:40] <_jason> SweetestSavage, are you sure they are mounted?
[01:40] <SweetestSavage> I typed mount /dev/hda1 /main
[01:41] <anthony__> ejofee, Quite possibly.  See what it says for the type.
[01:41] <SweetestSavage> !partitions
[01:41] <ubotflu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[01:41] <SweetestSavage> !info partitions
[01:41] <carl> ejofee, fdisk
[01:41] <platos> !help
[01:41] <_jason> SweetestSavage, type 'mount' and see if they are really mounted
[01:41] <KaRupT> Is there a good alternitave to top, something a lil cleaner and easier to read?
[01:42] <rambo3> ps and grep
[01:42] <ejofee> anthony__: fdisk says "hpfs/ntfs"; gparted says "ntfs"
[01:42] <SweetestSavage> _jason, I'm saying they were mounted before I restarted my system.
[01:42] <_jason> KaRupT, system tools-> system monitor if you want gui
[01:42] <shadox> anthony__ yes i did
[01:42] <_jason> SweetestSavage, did you use fstab then?
[01:42] <shadox> anthony__ same error :s
[01:42] <KaRupT> _jason, naw im lookin for text
[01:42] <soundray> KaRupT, it hardly gets any cleaner than top IMO. You could try System Monitor, though.
[01:42] <SweetestSavage> What is Fstab?
[01:43] <ejofee> SweetestSavage: it's a config file that tells the system which partitions to mount and where
[01:43] <_jason> !fstab
[01:43] <ubotflu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[01:43] <SweetestSavage> I didn't use that.
[01:44] <_jason> SweetestSavage, if you don't list your partitions in fstab they won't get mounted.  You'd have to mount them every time you reboot
[01:44] <ejofee> SweetestSavage: you can use gparted
[01:44] <platos> !partitions
[01:44] <ubotflu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[01:44] <SweetestSavage> _jason, I guess that was the case. Okay, so, how do I remount them?
[01:44] <SweetestSavage> And, is the data on them lost?
[01:44] <ejofee> why can't i find system / administration in my menu?!
[01:44] <_jason> SweetestSavage, no, unless you reformattted them
[01:44] <SweetestSavage> Okay, no I did not
[01:44] <ejofee> are there any ubuntu tools for editing the menu?
[01:45] <rikai> err, is there an easy way to find out what mobo i'm using in ubuntu?
[01:45] <_jason> SweetestSavage, well you want to put them in fstab so they mount everytime now right?
[01:45] <soundray> rikai, not really. lspci may give you a hint re. chipsets.
[01:45] <SweetestSavage> Yes
[01:46] <_jason> SweetestSavage, edit /etc/fstab
[01:46] <Lukian> ejofee: applications -> system tools -> applications menu editor?
[01:46] <_jason> I'll give you a sample line from mine that mounts ext3 and you can just modify the details (read the 3rd commented line):
[01:46] <SweetestSavage> Okay I'm there
[01:46] <rikai> soundray, thanks.
[01:46] <_jason> SweetestSavage, /dev/hda5       /home           ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:47] <_jason> SweetestSavage, just set yours up the same way but change the appropriate <mount point> and <file system>
[01:47] <soundray> rikai, the other thing you could do is look at the very early bootup messages.
[01:47] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay.
[01:48] <_jason> SweetestSavage, when you are done let me know
[01:48] <SweetestSavage> Okay when I use GEdit, it won't let me edit it.. only read it
[01:48] <_jason> SweetestSavage, use sudo
[01:48] <_jason> SweetestSavage, it's probably best if you make a backup
[01:48] <soundray> _jason, gksudo?
[01:48] <Astxist> SweetestSavage, 'sudo gedit <file>'
[01:48] <SweetestSavage> Alright, and I forget how to do that.. how do I do that again?
[01:48] <SweetestSavage> (Making a back-up)
[01:49] <frustrated>  Okay, now this is getting ridiculous.
[01:49] <Astxist> go into the terminal and use the cmd I siad
[01:49] <Astxist> *said
[01:49] <frustrated> XChat hates me.
[01:49] <_jason> SweetestSavage, sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup <-- you are just making a copy
[01:49] <siriusnova> XChat hates everyone
[01:49] <siriusnova> its incredibly bloated
[01:49] <siriusnova> for an irc client
[01:49] <Astxist> XChat likes crashing when I change themes
[01:50] <ElitePete> siriusnova, i like xchat :-)
[01:50] <frustrated> Is there a setting for timeing out that I can disable?
[01:50] <siriusnova> i use Xchat too because i havent found a suitable replacement
[01:50] <siriusnova> :/
[01:50] <siriusnova> irssi is nice, but i dont feel like using a terminal all the time
[01:50] <rev> frustrated: thats server side
[01:51] <frustrated> ElitePete: I did, before it stopped working.  Do you know how to make it not randomly stop communicating with the server?
[01:51] <ElitePete> frustrated, it only disconnected me in my experience when my whole internet connection went down
[01:51] <SweetestSavage> _jason, what does the 1 mean? I notice all of my other entries have a 0
[01:51] <frustrated> rev: So are other people having a similar issue?
[01:52] <_jason> SweetestSavage, are you sure?  my / has a 1 there too
[01:52] <keent>  _)
[01:52] <frustrated> rev: Possibly because we're nearing the maximum number of users?
[01:52] <rev> frustrated: no...the server sends an "ping" to you and waits for a "pong" ...when it doesn't get a "pong" you timeout
[01:52] <SweetestSavage> Oh nevermind, I was looking at it wrong
[01:52] <SweetestSavage> I PMed you with what I editted
[01:53] <frustrated> rev: What would be reasons for that happening?  My internet connection is still up fine, but possibly slower than expected b/c it's dialup.  Do I have any conrol over this to prevent it?
[01:54] <SweetestSavage> _jason: Check your PM for the edits. I believe those are right, and if they are I've done that then.
[01:55] <ElitePete> frustrated, probably not
[01:55] <pinkisntwell> any problem with the repositories today? synaptic gives errors at startup
[01:55] <rikai> err
[01:55] <rev> frustrated: well, you could try using another server (type /links and pick one near you) ...maybe bad peering or whatever
[01:55] <frustrated> 'k.
[01:56] <rikai> okay... is there a way to tell what speed memory moy computer can support wihout knowing the mobo?
[01:56] <frustrated> So don't try to chat while apt-get is downloading while using dialup is my lesson of the day I guess.
[01:57] <soundray> rikai, there may be a clue in the CPU you are using. Find out with 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' if you don't know.
[01:57] <frustrated> rev: How do I change which one to use?
[01:57] <atmat> Is there any way to boot the ubuntu cd without starting X11?
[01:57] <soundray> atmat, I think you pass 2 as a kernel option
[01:57] <ElitePete> yay, king kong is done downloading
[01:58] <rikai> soundray, oh, i alraedy know i'm using a 1.4ghz athlon
[01:58] <atmat> soundray: I'm talking about the liveCD
[01:58] <soundray> rikai, Athlon or AthlonXP?
[01:58] <rev> frustrated: /server clarke.freenode.net  for example
[01:58] <kyncani> ElitePete: king kong is best seen at the cinema
[01:58] <rikai> soundray, xp i believe.
[01:58] <ElitePete> kyncani, i'm sure but i'm cheap.
[01:58] <soundray> atmat, so have you tried 2?
[01:59] <atmat> Nope
[01:59] <rikai> soundray, family: 6, model 4, stepping 4.
[01:59] <kyncani> ElitePete: well ... :)
[01:59] <pinkisntwell> any problem with the repositories today? synaptic gives errors at startup
[01:59] <soundray> rikai, is opening the box an option? You'll have to anyway if you're planning to upgrade.
[01:59] <ElitePete> kyncani, this svcd is 2gb so the quality is ok
[02:00] <rikai> soundray, not really, it's hard to access, and i dont plan on upgrading for at last a month or two.
[02:00] <atmat> soundray: isnt 2 the default one?
[02:00] <rikai> soundray, i already know the mobo maker, just not the model.
[02:01] <soundray> rikai, I've seen Athlon XP boards that support plain old SDRAM, DDR-SDRAM or both.
[02:02] <soundray> rikai, what's the maker?
[02:02] <wang> exit
[02:02] <rikai> soundray, pcchips.
[02:03] <rikai> soundray, and it seem... that i'm using an "athlon thunderbird"
[02:03] <soundray> rikai, I suggest you budget for upgrading the motherboard at the same time then :)
[02:03] <soundray> rikai, I see, that makes it much more likely that it uses SDRAM (non-DDR).
[02:03] <rikai> soundray, i'm planning on upgrading the mobo next, but my memory is the immediate need.
[02:03] <Lamers_1212> hi
[02:03] <Lamers_1212> Ive got problem with ubuntu
[02:03] <Lamers_1212> can anyone help me ?
[02:04] <_jason> Lamers_1212, we can try if you aska  quesiton
[02:04] <_jason> or a question
[02:04] <rikai> soundray, i'm looking for the speed rating not how many channels it uses ;)
[02:04] <Lamers_1212> ok
[02:04] <rikai> soundray, as in, pc2100, pc2700, etc.
[02:04] <SAM_theman> Hahah i can't wait to go to iraq an  teach them a fuking lesson look here :D  http://media.putfile.com/Iraqs-Sweet-Children
[02:04] <soundray> rikai, if you have a Thunderbird now, it's best not to upgrade the mobo without the CPU.
[02:04] <Lamers_1212> I download install cd
[02:04] <rbrtoclto> hi
[02:04] <Lamers_1212> it install the main package
[02:05] <_jason> !enter
[02:05] <ubotflu> I don't know, _jason
[02:05] <soundray> rikai, non-DDR memory doesn't have this type of speed rating.
[02:05] <_jason> Lamers_1212, try to keep your question on one line, it will be easier to read
[02:05] <Lamers_1212> then a have to finished the instalation after restart
[02:05] <rikai> soundray, it uses ddr.
[02:05] <Lamers_1212> ok
[02:05] <rikai> soundray, i'm not an idiot.
[02:05] <soundray> rikai, sorry for trying to help.
[02:05] <rikai> soundray, i apologize, i'm jsut very frustrated.
[02:05] <foxiness> smart battery and ubuntu ?
[02:06] <rbrtoclto> I'm sure you get this question all the time.. I've installed breezy, fire up rhythmbox, import an MP3, but it won't play "not a stream".. apparently I need gstreamer-mad plugin, but apt-cache search can't find it?
[02:06] <SweetestSavage> rbrtoclto, one sec let me get you the package name
[02:06] <rbrtoclto> I've had gentoo installed previously so I more or less know what I'm doing, just not used to the ubuntu/debian way of doing things
[02:06] <robotgeek> ubotflu: tell rbrtoclto about repos
[02:07] <rbrtoclto> do I need to set some kind of non-gpl-purist repository?
[02:07] <robotgeek> rbrtoclto: the bot has flu, you need to enable repositories.
[02:07] <_jason> rbrtoclto, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repos%29
[02:07] <robotgeek> rbrtoclto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:08] <Lamers_1212> I download an install cd.. I install the main package.. Then the computer was restarted.. and i finished the instalation.. but then it goes to shell and it wants login and password.. but I it dont ask it in instalation.. I dont know how can I login with root.. :-/ I dont know if someone understand me because my english is soo bad
[02:09] <robotgeek> Lamers_1212: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:09] <Lamers_1212> And I dont create another account
[02:10] <robotgeek> Lamers_1212: read that link, :)
[02:10] <_jason> Lamers_1212, what's your native language
[02:10] <Lamers_1212> slovak.. :-)
[02:11] <rikai> if i get higher rated ddr memory, it'll just clok down to the lower speed, right?
[02:11] <_jason> ah okay, don't think there is a a channel for that one :)
[02:11] <rbrtoclto> thanks
[02:12] <SAM_theman> have anyone seen the video?
[02:12] <rikai> _jason, i think there is #ubuntu-sk isnt it?
[02:12] <_jason> ah so there is
[02:12] <Lamers_1212> robotgeek: hm, my english is soo bed.. I dont understand that things on that link.. :-/ .. it want login and password.. I cant do nothing.. :-(
[02:12] <rikai> Lamers_1212, try, #ubuntu-sk
[02:12] <soundray> SAM_theman, this is not the place.
[02:12] <robotgeek> Lamers_1212: you use your user password
[02:12] <SAM_theman> Hahah i can't wait to go to iraq an  teach them a fuking lesson look here :D  http://media.putfile.com/Iraqs-Sweet-Children
[02:13] <robotgeek> SAM_theman: please stop trolling
[02:13] <soundray> SAM_theman, spread your hate elsewhere.
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> Did the question about booting only to a console without X11 with a Live CD get answered?
[02:13] <SAM_theman> soundray stop being gay
[02:13] <Lamers_1212> robotgeek: but I dont have another account
[02:13] <Lamers_1212> robotgeek: only root..
[02:14] <SAM_theman> and take it somewhere eles
[02:14] <robotgeek> Lamers_1212: you must have created a user account, login with that account
[02:14] <_jason> Lamers_1212, did you do server install?
[02:14] <Lamers_1212> _jason: omg.. I dont know... I knew that I dont install X
[02:15] <_jason> Lamers_1212, do you want X?
[02:15] <robotgeek> _jason: even the server (i mean minimal) install has only sudo
[02:15] <Lamers_1212> _jason: no
[02:15] <Lamers_1212> _jason: I want only login as root and be in shell
[02:15] <_jason> robotgeek, oh, I thought I've seen people coming in with root, you can help him out  I don't know much about the server install
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> I don't remember who asked it, and I lost my conversation history because of the server nonsense.
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> Why asked the Live CD non-X11 question?
[02:16] <Lamers_1212> _jason: and i cant because when Im trying to login and it saying Incorrect Login
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> Who, not why.  Wow...
[02:17] <Lamers_1212> _jason: It angry me because Im installing it third time
[02:17] <_jason> Lamers_1212, it has to ask you for a login when you install
[02:17] <Lamers_1212> _jason: but it dont.. :-/
[02:19] <_jason> Lamers_1212, maybe you just missed it
[02:19] <ryanmt> how do i generate incremental files when using cron? 001.zip 002.zip etc
[02:19] <rbrtoclto> what's the command to find out the version of an installed package?
[02:19] <rbrtoclto> I want to find out which version of alsa-base I have
[02:19] <rgb> hi
[02:20] <_jason> rbrtoclto, apt-cache policy packagename
[02:21] <dooglus> ryanmt: keep a file with the last count in it and increase it by one each time
[02:22] <rbrtoclto> thanks
[02:23] <WolfMan> hello?
[02:23] <_jason> WolfMan, hello
[02:23] <WolfMan> hey i have a question
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> Note: apt-get update takes forever over dialup when universe is included!
[02:24] <Chapium> just ask
[02:24] <pinkisntwell> any problem with the repositories today? synaptic gives errors at startup
[02:24] <WolfMan> k ah i want to use ubuntu on my compaq laptop andit uses a broadcom wifi. will the live cd have a driver for it?
[02:24] <evert> hello all , i'm having a problem with ubuntu ... can somebody help me ?
[02:24] <_jason> pinkisntwell,  repos are fine over here
[02:25] <_jason> evert, we can try if you ask
[02:25] <pinkisntwell> hmmm W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:25] <_jason> pinkisntwell, apt-get update give you an error too?
[02:26] <evert> if i play Americas Army i'm getting very low fps (on windows i have good fps) so i tought it was nescesery to download newer nvidia driver ?
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> pinkisntwell: I'm having some issue, yeah.
[02:26] <pinkisntwell> tonyyarusso: the same with me?
[02:26] <_jason> pinkisntwell, may be the gr mirror then, are you using gr too tonyyarusso ?
[02:27] <mike-e> how do i mount a second drive?
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> pinkisntwell: I'm seeing if I can reload the list, which is taking forever, and then I'll see if it works.
[02:27] <pinkisntwell> ok
[02:27] <arctic> mount -t filesystem /dev/hdXX /mnt
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> pinkisntwell, Yeah, except I got like a dozen of those errors.
[02:27] <WolfMan> Broadcom Driver on Ubuntu Live CD?
[02:27] <evert> but i can't install the drivers , it gives an error : something like : ... can't open binaire files ...
[02:27] <pinkisntwell> tonyyarusso: i get dozens too, it must be that the repo is offline, it will come back (probably)
[02:28] <arctic> e.g mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /mnt
[02:28] <mike-e> arctic, how do i find what /dev/hdxx it is, i think it's /dev/hda1
[02:28] <csezol> I installed ubuntu 5.04 ( Hoary Hedhehog ), and liked it.. than my mother came, and said that he needs windows xp. I have a small hdd, so i cant allow multiple OSes.. Please tell me the WM/DE which is the most similar with windows xp ( not look, if possible usability is the first, but xplook would also be a plus ) -- please dont say kde. its not windows-like enough.
[02:28] <arctic> or mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[02:28] <rbrtoclto> if I download 2.6.15 and build and install it by hand, do you think my breezy system will shit itself?
[02:28] <arctic> try with fdisk -l. that will list partitions
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> pinkisntwell, We hope!
[02:28] <mike-e> thanks
[02:28] <arctic> np
[02:29] <arctic> could happen, rbtoclto
[02:29] <evert> if i play Americas Army i'm getting very low fps (on windows i have good fps) so i tought it was nescesery to download newer nvidia driver ? it gives an error when starting the install (something like ; can't open binair files..)
[02:29] <Lukian> csezol: tell her how much XP costs ;)
[02:29] <arctic> if you do something wrong
[02:30] <pinkisntwell> evert: latest nvidia driver is probably already installed in your system
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> csezol, From what I've seen I'd say KDE looks pretty close.  Has your mother even tried it, or just claimed she needed WXP b/c she didn't know anything different?
[02:30] <bassMonkey> Hi, i need to compile a kernel module to get wlan working (acer_acpi) but it fails, could it be that I'm trying to compile with gcc-4 and my kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4.5?
[02:30] <csezol> tonyyarusso, something similar, she's difficult.
[02:30] <arctic> remember you can keep several kernels in your system. that way you can test kernels before switching completely to them
[02:30] <evert> why do i have half or less than half the fps i had on windows ? :(
[02:30] <pinkisntwell> csezol: you can try some gnome theme that looks like xp, although xp looks awful (fisher-price)
[02:30] <rbrtoclto> arctic: but there are no magic patches ubuntu expects to have applied that will bork my system right?
[02:30] <csezol> btw..
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> csezol, I like Lukian's idea!
[02:31] <csezol> i have some problems with apt-get
[02:31] <pinkisntwell> evert: go into synaptic and look for nvidia-glx, it should be installed
[02:31] <csezol> tonyyarusso, but who doezn ?
[02:31] <evert> it's installed
[02:31] <csezol> i copied sources.list from the ubuntu source-o-matic..
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> csezol, Yeah, we think there are some issues with the repos right now.
[02:31] <evert> but prabably an old version ?
[02:31] <arctic> rbrtoclto, if you compile the kernel in a "normal way" against your system and don't do something very stupid, it should work
[02:31] <pinkisntwell> evert: does it give the nvidia logo when you startup gnome?
[02:31] <csezol> tonyyarusso, so it isnt only my problem ?
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> csezol, You might try negotiating some sort of deal, along the lines of try this for 90 days, and then we'll talk.
[02:32] <bassMonkey> Does kernel modules need to be compiled with the same gcc as the kernel??
[02:32] <evert> only when i quit gnome i think :p
[02:32] <arctic> yes, bassmonkey
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> csezol, Your sources.list is probably fine.  There are at least two of us having apt issues right now.
[02:32] <pinkisntwell> evert: when you start your computer it doesn't give it?
[02:32] <arctic> otherwise you risk instability
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> Two more that is, you make three.
[02:32] <pinkisntwell> tonyyarusso: I think that the servers are offline, minor problem
[02:32] <evert> i don't think so .. i'm not sure ..
[02:33] <bassMonkey> arctic: ok, whats the point in shipping breezy with gcc-4 when the kernel is gcc-3.4.5?
[02:33] <pinkisntwell> evert: wait a minute
[02:33] <Pygi> Hi hi
[02:33] <evert> but if i have 80+ fps on windows and in linux just 30 ... than i think there has to be a problem
[02:33] <evert> ok
[02:33] <csezol> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary Release.gpg
[02:33] <csezol> Reading package lists... Done
[02:33] <csezol> this is the error of mine.
[02:33] <ejofee> how do i access this from the console? ("<Lukian> ejofee: applications -> system tools -> applications menu editor?")
[02:34] <Chapium> _jason: search universe for glx
[02:34] <_jason> Chapium, ?
[02:34] <Chapium> America's army framerate?
[02:34] <arctic> gcc4 is very new and not well tested, thus some things are compiled with the proven stuff instead of gcc4. if you recompile the kernel, you use te sources anyway and those can be compiled with gcc4
[02:34] <evert> yes
[02:35] <pinkisntwell> evert: look into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and find the device section, tell me which driver is it using
[02:35] <Aton> hello
[02:35] <evert> ok ... i'm now using windows (with a hard disk only for windows) and i have to change the hard disk ... i'm be back in 5 minutes :)
[02:35] <arctic> cheerio
[02:35] <Aton> can some1 tell me how to burn an iso in ubuntu?!?
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> I'll try this once more in case it was missed, because I was wondering the same thing: What was the answer to the question about booting a Live CD without X11, only a console?
[02:36] <Pygi> Aton: use a burnin' software
[02:36] <pinkisntwell> someone please help evert when he comes back I need to go now
[02:36] <arctic> right click ->burn iso to cd/dvd
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> Aton: GnomeBaker has a burn iso option.
[02:36] <Aton> gotta get that
[02:36] <Aton> tnx
[02:36] <Andre4s> I installed ubuntu 5.10 last night over another ubuntu installation. The grub installer never apeared during the install. Now grub is broken. How do I reinstall it?
[02:37] <evert> ok thx , i have a lot of other questions ... i've asked them on a forum but they closed my thread because it where to easy questions :( i just wanne learn ubuntu a bit and quit windows :) brb
[02:37] <_jason> Aton, you can burn with nautlius I believe
[02:38] <Pygi> jason: nop
[02:38] <mmans> I'm unable to install ubuntu on my laptop. During install no physical disks are found. The laptop got a 82801FB/FBM SATA controller. Dmesg shows: ATA: abnormal status 0xFF on port 0x for both SATA ports.... Does anyone knows what to do?
[02:38] <arctic> umm... i guess bot the cd, go in rescue mode, go into a chroot environment and launch the grub command
[02:38] <arctic> *thinks*
[02:38] <xerxas> hi
[02:38] <ejofee> !menu
[02:38] <ubotflu> ejofee: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:38] <Aton> okey ill try the gnomebaker first
[02:38] <xerxas> how do you guys set up iptables on ubuntu ?
[02:38] <ejofee> !ubuntu-menu
[02:38] <ubotflu> ejofee: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:38] <xerxas> there's a /etc/init.d/iptables on debian
[02:38] <Pygi> ejofee: STOP PLAYING WITH BOT
[02:38] <xerxas> that doesn't exist on ubuntu
[02:39] <arctic> brb... gotta eat something
[02:39] <xerxas> why so ?
[02:39] <Andre4s> I installed ubuntu 5.10 last night over another ubuntu installation. The grub installer never apeared during the install. Now grub is broken. How do I reinstall it?
[02:39] <ejofee> Pygi: do i LOOK LIKE PLAYING?!
[02:39] <ejofee> Pygi: sorry
[02:39] <ejofee> Pygi: do i look like playing?!
[02:39] <Pygi> ejofee: you played with it twice ;)
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> Andre4s: I believe you can boot the install disk wit the expert parameter, and somewhere in there is a reinstall grub option.
[02:39] <ejofee> Pygi: well... i tried to make it talk
[02:39] <deFrysk> Andre4s, did you upgrade or install ?
[02:39] <Pygi> ejofee: heh
[02:40] <Andre4s> deFrysk, installed
[02:40] <deFrysk> Andre4s, you have to reinstall then
[02:40] <ejofee> how do i find info on how to access the menu from the console?
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> xerxas: What are iptables?
[02:40] <Dallows> hm, proftpd is comunicating with mysql database ?
[02:40] <xerxas> tonyyarusso: linux kernel firewall
[02:40] <_jason> ejofee, use the menu editor to see what command the shortcut runs
[02:40] <ejofee> my ubuntu menu is DIFFERENT from the one i see in any howto... so i want to access the items from the console... where are they?
[02:40] <xerxas> tonyyarusso: in the kernel it's called netfilter
[02:41] <xerxas> in user space iptables
[02:41] <alejandro> hola
[02:41] <ejofee> _jason: i don't have that menu... my menu is different
[02:41] <_jason> ejofee, smeg
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> ejofee, Once the bot responds once I think you can talk to it in a pm, so it doesn't all end up in here.
[02:41] <Aton> i know this is about ubuntu but is there some1 who could help me with a problem with the second computer
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> xerxas: Ah.
[02:42] <Pygi> welcome BenC ;)
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Aton: Depends what the computer and problem are.
[02:42] <BenC> hola
[02:42] <Aton> well actualy i got it from my uncle : well the problem is like this whenever i try to install OS the system crashes first i thought it could be disk it aint than i thought its processor that aint eather
[02:43] <Pygi> BenC: what's up? any new bugs? ;)
[02:43] <Aton> now i switched bios ill see whats that gona bring me
[02:43] <evert> hello i'm back :)
[02:43] <Pygi> Aton: it's 99% motherbord broken
[02:43] <mahangu> what dvd software can i use that reads all country codes?
[02:43] <Aton> any sujestions what else could be wrong
[02:43] <BenC> no new bugs, just new bug reports
[02:43] <Aton> no it aint
[02:43] <BenC> there all lies though
[02:43] <mahangu> where can i get the dvdcss library?
[02:43] <Pygi> BenC: ah, well, at least that ;)
[02:43] <BenC> *they're
[02:43] <ejofee> _jason: i simply don't know where the menu editor is! kmenuedit is not what you mean, i assume; right?
[02:43] <Aton> well i hope it aint :P
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> Aton: And so is your use of punctuation :)
[02:44] <_jason> ejofee, I told you the command: 'smeg'
[02:44] <ejofee> _jason: my menu editor is not in my menu... so i have to access it from the console...
[02:44] <evert> i have problems with installing the nvidia drivers on my ubuntu system .. i didn't see a nvidia logo while starting ubuntu
[02:44] <Aton> heh
[02:44] <ejofee> _jason: ohh, i never heard of any such command :)
[02:44] <Pygi> BenC: heh, when your developing, you have to be ready on such things :/
[02:44] <Aton> well i tried the bootable DSL 
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> Aton: What OS are you trying to put on that one?
[02:44] <ejofee> _jason: i thought it was english, never thought it was (ba)sh
[02:44] <ejofee> _jason :)
[02:44] <_jason> ejofee, no worries
[02:44] <Aton> ubuntu
[02:45] <evert> it give this error ( i know it's in dutch but mayby somebody may recognezi it ?) De tekst-editor was niet in staat de tekencodering automatisch te bespeuren. Ga na of u niet een binair bestand probeert te openen en probeer het opnieuw, waarbij u een tekencodering selecteert in het 'Bestand openen...' (of 'Locatie openen')-dialoogvenster.
[02:45] <Aton> windows xp
[02:45] <Aton> windows milenium
[02:45] <Aton> tried it all
[02:45] <Aton> :
[02:45] <Aton> :S
[02:45] <Aton> it installs
[02:45] <Pygi> BenC: any chance to see the "keyboard layout" *bug* fixed? altought I don't know if this problem exists in Debian
[02:45] <Aton> than in the end of instalation says there is some mistake bla bla
[02:45] <Aton> some ziros
[02:45] <Aton> and thats it
[02:45] <Pygi> BenC: at least some workaround?
[02:45] <spola> how can i do a "ps aux" kind of command that displays the full path of the executable thats ran?
[02:46] <evert> nobody ,
[02:46] <evert> ?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> evert: Do you know Dutch, so we could get a translation of that or something?
[02:46] <Pygi> BenC: you alive? ;)
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> Aton: Did you see what would happen if you put Ubuntu on the same machine?
[02:47] <BenC> Pygi: the one where some keys don't work right with caps lock?
[02:47] <evert> i know dutch (my motherlanguage) and a bit english and a smaller bit french :p
[02:47] <Aton> yes
[02:47] <Pygi> BenC: the problem with changing keyboard layout in Gnome doesn't work
[02:47] <Aton> it installed all
[02:47] <Aton> than crashed
[02:47] <Aton> and nothing else happens
[02:47] <BenC> Pygi: doesn't sound like a kernel bug
[02:48] <Pygi> BenC: well, it isn't kernel bug ;)
[02:48] <Aton> i have the same distribution cd on this comp so its not the cd :P
[02:48] <BenC> Pygi: oh, well then I can't answer that :)
[02:48] <Pygi> BenC: yes, yes, I know ;)
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> evert: See if you can do your best to tell us what that error says, and then maybe someone will know what it means.
[02:48] <ejofee> anybody have any idea what happens to the seveas' repo?
[02:48] <Pygi> BenC: I yet need to find someone who can, or else I'll do it on my own...
[02:48] <Pygi> BenC: don't know if Ubuntu/Gnome accepts external patches
[02:49] <Aton> well with ubuntu no error
[02:49] <Aton> only crash
[02:49] <BenC> Pygi: if it fixes I bug, I don't see why they wouldn't
[02:49] <Pygi> BenC: bug is relativly easy to fix I suppose
[02:49] <Aton> with windows xp when u are seposed to come in the graphical part of instalation it hangs
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> Aton: There might be a corruption of the disk of some sort that would allow the installation, but it wouldn't be clean afterwards.
[02:49] <smo> evert: Can you try putting LANG=en_US infront of the command you're running?  that should make it spit out errors in english
[02:49] <Pygi> BenC: few modifications and it should work
[02:50] <chtamina> Hi guys is it possiblie to download and automatic configure opera using synaptic ?
[02:50] <evert> the tekst editor was not able to detect the sign coding automatically . examine if you don't try to open a binary file and try it again , when you selected sign coding in the 'file ' menu
[02:50] <Aton> i have tried 2 disks in same comp
[02:50] <Aton> same results
[02:50] <Aton> and both disks are fine
[02:50] <chtamina> I'm talking about Opera, the browser
[02:50] <Pygi> chtamina: what configuration do you want to be done?
[02:50] <chtamina> I mean installation
[02:51] <chtamina> I'm a newbie
[02:51] <Pygi> BenC: I've been playing with vanilla kernel ;)
[02:51] <Pygi> chtamina: just go to terminal, and write "sudo apt-get install opera"
[02:51] <chtamina> thanks
[02:51] <Pygi> You have to have all repositories enabled
[02:51] <evert> i'll try to do that ... i'm running it by double clicking on the icon ... i'm really knew to linux
[02:52] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, my partition that's currently holding Linux is really small.. and I don't know why I made it so small, is there anyway to expand the space of it?
[02:52] <Pygi> savage: cfdisk?
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> smo: How's that work?  You just have to put the environment variable in front, or does that involve a pipe or other command of some sort?
[02:52] <SweetestSavage> Elaborate?
[02:52] <ubuntu> hi
[02:52] <ubuntu> crying for help
[02:52] <mike-e> how can i have my system scan to find a second hard drive and what /dev it is
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> chtamina: Yes.
[02:52] <Pygi> savage: start cfdisk from terminal with sudo ;)
[02:53] <penguin42> mike-e: It will probably have found it - cat /proc/partitions will show you all known partitions
[02:53] <penguin42> Pygi: That will resize the partition but not the filesystem
[02:53] <ubuntu> help me
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> chtamina: I don't think opera is in the Ubuntu repos though, but you can get an apt line from the opera web site.
[02:53] <Pygi> penguin: oh, yea :/
[02:53] <penguin42> ubuntu: Tell us what the problem is!
[02:53] <mahangu> where can i get the libdvdcss2 package?
[02:54] <evert> how can i change the language to english ?
[02:54] <ubuntu> penguin42, i have just downloded kubuntu.. and tried to installed but its showing an error that kernal cant be loaded
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> mahangu: I think it has since been replaced by libdvdread3.
[02:54] <ubuntu> what should i do now. penguin42
[02:54] <Lukian> mahangu: vlc has it
[02:54] <penguin42> ubuntu: What is the full error, and what was the last thing before it got the error
[02:54] <Dr_Acemaster> how do you copy the time stamp w/ the text in xhcat?
[02:54] <ubuntu> penguin42, i was installing.. but when it came to the stage of installing the kernal. it showed the error
[02:55] <mahangu> Lukian, tonyyarusso can I /query either one of you?
[02:55] <Pygi> ubuntu: checked your media?
[02:55] <rgb> where can I find the weather plugin
[02:55] <ubuntu> penguin42, i had win xp on the other partition , but now that also had gone. it crashed
[02:55] <evert> if i do this it give' s the error still in duth : evert@evert:~/Desktop$ Lang=en_US sudo dpkg -i nvidia
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> evert: I'm running your error through some online translators to see what they think.
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> mahangu: Sure.
[02:56] <ubuntu> Pygi, media?
[02:56] <MM2> I have trouble installing 5.10 to HP t3259. Installer hangs with line Running /etc/hotplug/usb.rc. How I can install ubuntu on that machine?
[02:56] <Pygi> ubuntu: well, the CD/DVD integrity check
[02:56] <penguin42> ubuntu: What *exactly* is the error
[02:56] <evert> ok
[02:56] <ubuntu> penguin42, i have a AMD64 machine
[02:56] <Karlabob> I have a HUGE problem, if anybody could provide some assistance I'd be more than glad :D
[02:56] <evert> tonny... how can you message something to you specific so it get's another color ?
[02:56] <rgb> Is there any weather plugin?
[02:57] <ubuntu> penguin42, i cant exactly tell u what the error is, a i am new in linux. But as i said itonly displayed" some error has occured while installing the ...."
[02:57] <nlfsoftware> hello all
[02:57] <nlfsoftware> :D
[02:58] <nlfsoftware> I have a serius problem in my ubunt
[02:58] <Karlabob> My clock is screwed, big time! It shows 1 sec as 4sec, so the time it should have counted to 3 sec, it's counted 12sec, videos play at 4x and flash-video too, music with XMMS works for some reason normaly
[02:58] <nlfsoftware> in grub I mean
[02:58] <penguin42> ubuntu: OK, try doing the install again - and when it gets to it write the error down exactly as it says it and come back - but also do the media check as someone else suggested
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Describe.
[02:59] <nlfsoftware> when I start my machine grub giv error 24
[02:59] <ubuntu> penguin42, could  u tell me how do i do media check?
[02:59] <penguin42> ubuntu: Erm no, sorry I can't remember - anyone else?
[03:00] <ubuntu> could anyone plz guide me how to do media check??
[03:00] <nlfsoftware> yesterday I install Kino an everything goes ok
[03:00] <nlfsoftware> I shutdown the pcnormally
[03:00] <nlfsoftware> and today when I go to start up
[03:00] <_jason> !md5
[03:00] <ubotflu> it has been said that md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[03:00] <_jason> ubuntu, read that ^
[03:00] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[03:01] <evert> i asked a friend to translate it : the script editor wasn't capable of finding the textcoding autmaticly. Check if you aren't trying to open a binairy file and try again,using the textcoding in the'Open file...- dialogue frame.
[03:02] <_jason> evert, and what file are you attempting to open?
[03:02] <nlfsoftware> the ERROR 24 was there in grub... Itry to boot from cd in rescue mode but I can't rescue my system
[03:02] <evert> a .run file ... i downloaded it at the nvidia site .. it are the newest nvidia drivers
[03:02] <nlfsoftware> so if anybody can help me lease tell me what to do
[03:02] <nlfsoftware> thanks
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> evert: That doesn't sound like something that you would open in a text editor.  What were you trying to do with it again?
[03:03] <_jason> evert, if you really want to install it, you probably want to run it, not edit it.  chmod +x file; /path/to/file
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, What is ERROR 24, does it say?
[03:03] <evert> i'm just double clicking on the icon to run the auto installer ...
[03:03] <ubuntu> the problem is that i dont have any operating system on my system at this moment.. i am running on live cd of ubuntu
[03:03] <evert> i'm not used with the commands of the console ...
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> evert: Try it with the console.  We can walk you through.
[03:04] <evert> ok
[03:04] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, say nothing in start up apears GRUB LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[03:04] <evert> thx for help :)
[03:04] <nlfsoftware> ERROR "$
[03:04] <nlfsoftware> ERROR 24
[03:04] <nlfsoftware> sorry
[03:04] <_jason> evert, you'll need to give the file executable permissions.  Fire up a terminal.  Can you navigate to the directory where it is located?
[03:04] <emicro> hi. is there a ftp client comming with ubuntu ?
[03:04] <pH> Where can I find libxorg (devel) ?
[03:04] <evert> ok i navigate to there (that's the only thing i can :p)
[03:04] <penguin42> emicro: Yes, just type ftp
[03:04] <emicro> thank !
[03:04] <_jason> evert, ok, then 'chmod +x filename'
[03:04] <evert> i'm navigated to the location
[03:05] <evert> filename.run or without the .run ?
[03:05] <_jason> evert, what ever the full filename is, just type the beginning and press tab
[03:05] <evert> ah cool i didn't know that
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Do you have a Live CD?
[03:06] <ubuntu> tell me  one thing.. if i install ubuntu and download KDE.. is that same as running kubuntu or there are some differences??
[03:06] <evert> i did that but i didn't receive a message that there has happened something ?
[03:06] <_jason> evert, then: ./filename  (be sure you know what you are installing)
[03:06] <nlfsoftware> yes I have of the version 5.04, the problem is on version 5.10
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> evert: It only tells you if it doesn't work.
[03:06] <emicro> penguin42 : but there' no ftp with GUI ?
[03:06] <MM2> I have trouble installing 5.10 to HP t3259. Installer hangs with line Running /etc/hotplug/usb.rc. How I can install ubuntu on that machine?
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> evert: Sounds like it worked fine.
[03:07] <evert> ok that works ; new error ; nvidia-installer must be run as root
[03:07] <arctic> Grub Error 24 usually indicates a wrong path to the kernel afaik
[03:07] <evert> i only have one account here ...
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, But you might be able to use the 5.04 Live CD to restore Grub to get back at the 5.10.
[03:07] <evert> do i have to do sudo ./filename ?
[03:07] <_jason> evert, okay, if you trust that the file is not going to wreck your box, use 'sudo' in front of the command
[03:08] <ubuntu> tell me  one thing.. if i install ubuntu and download KDE.. is that same as running kubuntu or there are some differences??
[03:08] <_jason> evert, yes
[03:08] <evert> i'll hope it will not destroy things ...
[03:08] <nlfsoftware> tonnyarusso any tutorial on how doing that?
[03:08] <Chapium> mm2, at the boot promt i think there is a nousb option.   Check and see if there is something like that available
[03:08] <emicro> is there a gui ftp client with ubuntu ?
[03:08] <irvin> ubuntu, you'll need kubuntu-desktop for the complete kubuntu experience
[03:08] <evert> lol , sorry guys a new error when i'm running it with sudo :   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[03:08] <evert>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[03:08] <evert>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[03:09] <MM2> Chapium: it won't help
[03:09] <arctic> The best option is o boot a live cd, mount the harddisk and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file so it links to the correct vmlinuz path again
[03:09] <ubuntu> irvin, can a iso be corrupt?
[03:09] <nlfsoftware> artic, any way to restore the correc path?
[03:09] <irvin> ubuntu yes it can be corrupted
[03:09] <irvin> !md5
[03:09] <ubotflu> hmm... md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: There might be some differences in default other programs too.
[03:09] <Chapium> mm2, i'm can't help any further then, sorry :D
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> emicro: gftp
[03:09] <ubuntu> irvin, yesterday i have downloaded an iso of kubuntu from japan server..
[03:09] <MM2> i'll try then other distro :(
[03:09] <nlfsoftware> ok ok I will doit rigth now...
[03:09] <nlfsoftware> :D
[03:09] <ubuntu> its not working
[03:09] <nlfsoftware> hanks artic
[03:10] <arctic> sure... just take a look at your /boot folder on the hdd / partition....
[03:10] <nlfsoftware> and thanks tonnyarusso
[03:10] <arctic> write down the exact names
[03:10] <arctic> and add them in the enu.lst file
[03:10] <irvin> ubuntu, verify if it has the correct checksum
[03:10] <arctic> then reboot
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> evert: Then you'll need to sudo apt-get install binutils.
[03:10] <irvin> !md5
[03:10] <ubotflu> from memory, md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[03:10] <arctic> menu.lst
[03:10] <ubuntu> ubotflu, yes
[03:10] <ubotflu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, ubuntu?
[03:10] <evert> tonnyarusso can you explain it pls ? i'm really new to this all ....
[03:11] <siriusnova> btw Ubuntu's User app is broken
[03:11] <ubuntu> now where do i download??
[03:11] <KaRupT> How do you configure Open SSH server?
[03:11] <siriusnova> it doesnt add users correctly
[03:11] <siriusnova> nor remove them heh
[03:11] <ubuntu> i am running on a live cd...
[03:11] <KaRupT> Does it have a conf file or a config app?
[03:12] <_jason> evert, just use the command he said: 'sudo apt-get install binutils'
[03:12] <evert> ok
[03:12] <ubuntu> ubotflu, after downloading the files what should i do?
[03:12] <ubotflu> ubuntu: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> evert: Sure.  You'll need to have the main repo enabled, which is probably true, but we can find out.  In the command line, type apt-cache search binutils, and something comes up, you're all set for that part.
[03:12] <_jason> ubuntu, do you realize uboflu is a bot
[03:13] <Pygi> Don't abuse bot ;)
[03:13] <ubuntu> _jason, thankx.. i didnt know
[03:13] <ubuntu> bot here too...lol
[03:14] <evert> i tryed that apt-get thing but it said that he had to download files that are missing and than it stops
[03:14] <evert> i'll do that apt-cache thing now ?
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> evert, yeah.  That's to make sure you have the right repository to get them, and then if so, we'll do that next, then go back to the part that failed.
[03:15] <evert> this failed to
[03:15] <windowmaker> has anybody here used fuhquake? and if so, have you got the audio working?
[03:15] <KaRupT> Ne1 use open ssh server?
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> evert: What did it say?
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> hello
[03:16] <evert> what does repository means ? (my english isn't good sorry
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know why apt/synaptic doesn't seem to be working
[03:16] <Toma-> windowmaker: i do :D
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> it kinda locks up when trying to update
[03:16] <Toma-> just played qwtf for 3 hrs then
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> evert: They're the places where all of the packages are stored.
[03:16] <windowmaker> Toma-, great!
[03:16] <windowmaker> Toma-, what's your secret =P
[03:16] <sweet_lady_bg> hi
[03:16] <Toma-> hang on
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> spanglesontoast, It seems the repos are offline.  There have been a lot of people with that problem, including myself.
[03:17] <sweet_lady_bg> eny1 want to talk
[03:17] <arctic> repository=software server that hosts all application packages
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> oh
[03:17] <evert> ok when i do the cache thing it says (i translated it to english ..) couldn't get the status of ... link ....
[03:17] <Toma-> windowmaker: echo "fuhquake-gl.glx 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> so how come you can install one package at a time and it works?
[03:17] <Toma-> add that to your glx script
[03:17] <mahangu> tonyyarusso, works in english now
[03:17] <thunder__> hello
[03:17] <pat_bateman> bonjour
[03:17] <pat_bateman> sorry
[03:17] <arctic> bonsoir
[03:17] <mahangu> tonyyarusso, thanks again!
[03:17] <windowmaker> Toma-, i see... earlier i did "echo "fuhquake-gl.glx 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" and that barely worked
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> mahangu, Sweet.
[03:17] <sweet_lady> hello
[03:17] <Toma-> windowmaker: nah... the sudo is needed
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> evert: Okay, you're probably dealing with the same repository issue as the rest of us now.
[03:18] <pat_bateman> hi arctic
[03:18] <KaRupT> ANYONE plz....
[03:18] <thunder__> i want create a forum, there ara some program in repositories of ubuntu breezy?
[03:18] <Toma-> windowmaker: OR. you can add that line to a startup script
[03:18] <Toma-> and never bother about it again
[03:18] <Chapium> thunder__: huh?
[03:18] <windowmaker> Toma-, i did that to my enemy territory =3
[03:18] <evert> what does that means ? that i'm not able to do the update of that binutils ?
[03:19] <Toma-> infact, all id games need it, so i made a startup script with all my id games commandsa in it. made it run default with update.rc-d and now i never worry
[03:19] <thunder__> Chapium, i want create a formum
[03:19] <windowmaker> Toma-, it's still not working =(
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> evert: Correct.  For the time being anyway.  All we can do for now is wait for them to come back online before we can proceed.
[03:19] <thunder__> Chapium, how can do it?
[03:19] <Toma-> windowmaker: killall esd
[03:19] <evert> ah ok :( i can't find that files somewhere else ?
[03:19] <Toma-> i added that to my glx script too
[03:19] <kyncani> thunder__: synaptic -> search forum
[03:19] <kyncani> ?
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> evert: However, they will be back, so we can either try to list off what you'll do later, or you can ask later.
[03:20] <windowmaker> Toma-, tried that already
[03:20] <Toma-> :/
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> evert: You can try changing the mirror you're using; I have no idea which ones are down.
[03:20] <thunder__> yes, there are 5 programs
[03:20] <Toma-> windowmaker: anything using /dev/dsp?
[03:20] <thunder__> egroupware-forum
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> Everybody that's been having problems with the repositories: Which mirrors are you using?
[03:20] <evert> i'll ask later ... but i've some other questions ... you are already thanked a lot (that's wrong english i think but you get the message )
[03:20] <thunder__> phpgroupware-fudforum
[03:21] <windowmaker> Toma-, nope, not at all... even when i kill it, equake still says it... hang on, i'll copy and paste what it actually says
[03:21] <thunder__> which is better?
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> ca.archive.ubuntu.com for me.
[03:21] <Toma-> ok
[03:21] <albacker> guys, what do i use to open .mov files ?
[03:21] <thunder__> zope-cmfforum
[03:21] <windowmaker> Toma-,
[03:21] <windowmaker> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:21] <Toma-> yeh something is using dsp
[03:21] <ubuntu> hold on i will be back with my problem...
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> evert: Yes, I do.  You're very welcome.  (I'm used to broken English now too - my university is over 10% international students.)
[03:22] <windowmaker> Toma-, =\ i'm pretty sure nothing is
[03:22] <Toma-> windowmaker: tried ps aux to see if anything using dsp is running?
[03:22] <kyncani> thunder__: i've never created a forum, but i think you should check each of these projects homepage, read the news and faq, and decide for yourself (that's what i would do anyway)
[03:22] <cryptomatt> hi guys.. there was some problem with my motherboard, so the guys in office replaced it with a new one.. gigabyte.. but now my monitor settings have all gone haywire.. what can I do.. is there any way I can redetect my board
[03:22] <evert> if i try to make a shortcut of americas army.bin and paste it on my desktop i can't use it ..if i double click on it nothing happens ?
[03:22] <Toma-> evert: how are you making the link? dont you have a shortcut created from the installer?
[03:23] <thunder__> ok thanks kyncani
[03:23] <cryptomatt> am using breezy
[03:23] <kyncani> thunder__: np :)
[03:23] <windowmaker> Toma-, hehe, i didn't know i still had some wineservers running, i've just killed them. now i'll try again
[03:23] <Toma-> i seeeee
[03:24] <evert> i'm just clicking with the right mouse button on americas army.bin (in my americas army map) and than i select make shortcut ... after that i take the shorcut out the map of AA and i put it on my desktop
[03:24] <windowmaker> Toma-, nup, still busy
[03:24] <csb> hi is this a good place to ask a technical question about Ubuntu?
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> evert: First, spaces in file names are trouble.  If possible, rename things that have them.
[03:24] <testmachine> yes
[03:24] <windowmaker> csb: yes it is!!!
[03:24] <testmachine> it is csb
[03:24] <t4> windowmaker: what about lsof /dev/dsp ?
[03:24] <testmachine> ots the ubuntu support channel
[03:24] <testmachine> :)
[03:24] <Toma-> evert: try rightclicking the desktop, select "create Launcher"
[03:25] <Toma-> put the command in there and a title and even the icon, and see it it works
[03:25] <evert> sorry it's named armyops.bin no spaces
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> evert: Ah.
[03:25] <penguin42> any of the X maintainers on here? The OpenOffice.org guys are telling me that I've got an OOo crash because of a known bug in x.org - whats the best way to report the x.org bug to get the fix in?
[03:25] <windowmaker> t4: as normal user it says "lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[03:25] <windowmaker>       Output information may be incomplete."
[03:25] <arctic> cryptomat, is the mobo brand new or an older model?
[03:25] <windowmaker> t4: as root it says nothing
[03:25] <cryptomatt> brand new
[03:25] <csb> i have a dualboot machine with XP and ubuntu...i am trying to mount my XP partition (NTFS) and a shared partition (FAT32)...i have the NTFS mounted and the icon on the desktop. the FAT32 one, i THINK it's mounted but a desktop icon does not appear
[03:25] <cryptomatt> arctic: it's a brand new board
[03:25] <arctic> oh, then maybe it ain't detected by the kernel yet
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> evert: Try what Toma- said with the full path to the original armyops.bin in the program's directory.
[03:25] <csb> i set the fstab up correctly i think
[03:25] <evert> ok i'll try it now
[03:26] <scanwinder> is there a debian package for gaim 2.0.0 beta1 anywhere?
[03:26] <cryptomatt> arctic: so how can do this kernel detection bit again
[03:26] <Toma-> scanwinder: probably
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> evert: I don't know anything about how this program works, so it might be useful to try checking the option of run this in a terminal if you still have trouble.
[03:26] <scanwinder> Toma-: any idea where 2 look?
[03:26] <Toma-> google :D~
[03:26] <arctic> there was a command for reconfiguring the base system....
[03:26] <scanwinder> Toma-: tried of course lol
[03:26] <arctic> how was it called?
[03:26] <arctic> *thinks*
[03:26] <JDahl> arctic base-config
[03:26] <csb> and if i "sudo umount /media/WinFAT", it seems to unmount (no message)
[03:26] <Toma-> scanwinder: if i find it, you owe me
[03:26] <arctic> thanks, JDahl
[03:26] <csb> and if i "sudo mount /media/WinFAT" there is no message
[03:26] <Kimppa> Hi. I have this weird problem. I used to have a LG DVD+-RW station and I was able to burn normally with it. Now I got myself a new one, Lite On DVD+-RW which should be able to burn at 16x. I'm using K3b to burn my dvd's. In K3b, I select "Auto" as writing speed, then I get a message saying the writing speed is 8x, but it actually burns only at 1x
[03:27] <Kimppa> any ideas? I haven't installed any drivers, that probably is the first thing to do. Is there a way for kubuntu to check my hardware and download new drivers from the repository?
[03:27] <cryptomatt> should I try something like dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-base
[03:27] <Kimppa> I didn't install any drivers with my previous burner (the LG), altough I had it one when I first installed linux
[03:27] <csb> is there a way to add a link/icon to the desktop for mounted drives?
[03:27] <scanwinder> Toma-: whats that supposed 2 mean? u want 2 know where if i find it?
[03:27] <windowmaker> Kimppa: how do you know the speed?
[03:27] <arctic> well, boot into rescue mode and run base-config, then reboot
[03:27] <Toma-> scanwinder: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100899
[03:27] <cryptomatt> okie
[03:27] <evert> i did the create launcher thing and when i use it i get an error : Details: Uitvoeren van dochterproces "/home/evert/Americas"  failed (unkown map or file)
[03:27] <cryptomatt> lemme try that out then
[03:27] <cryptomatt> ciao and hope it rescues me
[03:27] <Kimppa> windowmaker: there's a box saying "estimated writing speed : 1x"
[03:28] <t4> windowmaker: got any kde apps running ?
[03:28] <Kimppa> and it takes an hour to burn a dvd :)
[03:28] <scanwinder> Toma-: thanks
[03:28] <arctic> good luck
[03:28] <JDahl> Kimppa, I have a similar problem. Enabling DMA and 32 bit I/O via hdparm helped somewhat, but performance is still worse than I expected
[03:28] <Toma-> scanwinder: no probs
[03:28] <windowmaker> t4: no way!
[03:28] <t4> *g*
[03:28] <evert> tonny... how can i run it in the terminal ?
[03:28] <Toma-> scanwinder: mind you, that deb file is 9 days old
[03:28] <csb> so i guess the question is how can i add an icon to the desktop for a mounted drive?
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> evert: Shouldn't it be looking for /home/evert/Americas/armyops.bin?
[03:29] <scanwinder> Toma-: so not the new beta released a couple days ago then?
[03:29] <MenZa`> csb: make a shortcut to the folder you mounted the drive in?
[03:29] <Toma-> possibly not...
[03:29] <slug25> hello, everyone
[03:29] <JDahl> Kimppa, in my case the DVD device buffer doesnt fill up fast enough, and the writer reduces the speed to avoid buffer underrun
[03:29] <evert> yeah it should and that's also the place where i linked to
[03:29] <evert> *confused*
[03:29] <DuXia> hi
[03:29] <DuXia> i need some help here
[03:30] <arctic> is the drive mounted at all? ;)
[03:30] <arctic> go ahead DuXia
[03:30] <Toma-> scanwinder: it wont be the beta
[03:30] <csb> menza : i've been trying that
[03:30] <evert> when i look to the proporties it's all ok .. /home/evert/americas army/system/armyops.bin
[03:30] <Toma-> scanwinder: theres a butt-load of rpms tho.... just use alien!
[03:30] <JDahl> arctic, you dont need to mount it, but it doesnt matter
[03:31] <JDahl> arctic, (provided you're still talking about writing DVDs)
[03:31] <DuXia> when i first install postfix, i can send external mail out.. but when i followed the instructions to setup virtual domains and users, i can only send local mail but not external mail
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> evert: Right-click the launcher, Properties, Open With, select Terminal, and then make that the selected option in the list if there are others.
[03:31] <scanwinder> Toma-: yeah i guess.......i prefer not to tho becuase stuff likes 2 crash when ive used alien
[03:31] <arctic> JDahl, no I wasn't
[03:31] <arctic> :D
[03:31] <slug> Hello all,
[03:31] <slug> first i want to say, that ubuntu is really the best os i know, finally managed to skip the m*cro os crap. Also i am a newbie, i managed to fit Ubuntu hoary 5.04 for all my needs.
[03:31] <Kimppa> JDahl: hmm, ok, will give it a shot. hdparm isn't familiar to me, so can you tell me how I do the enabling?
[03:31] <JDahl> arctic, I am tired today... sorry :)
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> evert: Take the space out of americas army/, the directory, if you can.
[03:32] <ejofee> anybody have any idea what happens to the seveas' repo?
[03:32] <arctic> JDahl: me, too, :D
[03:32] <slug> But since i have upgraded to Ubuntu breezy 5.10 , downloaded the new version, burned it and made a fresh installation, i have problems with arts. Under hoary i could start all my appz with the "artsdsp -m + app" command and run games like wolfenstein et and xmms together.
[03:32] <evert> i can't find the terminal thing ? i'll take out the space
[03:32] <DuXia> i think my postfix is ignoring my isp smtp server
[03:32] <Toma-> evert: the executable is "armyops"
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> evert: Otherwise, escape it: /home/evert/americas\ army/system/armyops.bin  <-- That's a backslash in there.
[03:32] <JDahl> Kimppa, hdparm /dev/cdrom to see what's enabled
[03:32] <_jason> evert, still here huh :)
[03:32] <slug> Now i get following error, if i start et with artsdsp:
[03:32] <slug> 1. artsd daemon is running
[03:32] <slug> 2. System Sounds are deactivated
[03:32] <slug> 3. esd daemon is NOT running
[03:32] <slug> 4. tried to start it with sudo
[03:32] <slug> ----- finished R_Init -----
[03:32] <evert> lol
[03:32] <windowmaker> has anybody here used fuhquake? and if so, have you got the audio working?
[03:32] <arctic> DuXia, have you read the manpages already?
[03:32] <slug> ------- sound initialization -------
[03:32] <evert> lot's of problems :)
[03:32] <slug> Received signal 11, exiting...
[03:33] <Toma-> evert: try /home/evert/americas\ army/armyops
[03:33] <_jason> slug, do not paste here
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> ejofee: No, but it seems a bunch of repos are down.
[03:33] <evert> i removed the space (now it's home/evert/americasarmy/system/armyops.bin
[03:33] <Toma-> slug: dont paste that.
[03:33] <JDahl> Kimppa, "sudo hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/cdrom" to enable DMA and 32 bit I/O, both of which should be safe for your CDROM drive
[03:33] <evert> when i double click it now there just don't happens a thing ... nothing happens :s
[03:33] <kaushik_ng> hi iam nagaraj and iam new to ubuntu can u please tell me how to execute a c command
[03:33] <nlfsoftware> arctic, hello again I trying to mount the hard driv in the using sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/last
[03:33] <Toma-> slug: run this command and see if it works. >> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[03:34] <_jason> ubotflu, tell kaushik_ng about cli
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> evert: Tell us the output of ls -l /home/evert/americasarmy/system/armyops.bin
[03:34] <nlfsoftware> and I have this mesage: /usr/bin/sudo I/O Error
[03:34] <Toma-> evert: youre not exe3cuting the right file
[03:34] <arctic> nlfsoftware, you need to specify the filesystemtype, e.g. ext3
[03:34] <_jason> kaushik_ng, many commands here: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[03:34] <nlfsoftware> ok...
[03:34] <arctic> mount -t etx3 /dev/blablabla
[03:34] <arctic> ext3
[03:34] <arctic> damn typos
[03:34] <nlfsoftware> thanks again
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Are you familiar with evert's program?
[03:35] <nlfsoftware> :D
[03:35] <arctic> np :)
[03:35] <Toma-> yep.
[03:35] <evert> *offtopic and supid question but how can i copy things out of this irc program ?
[03:35] <arctic> copy  and paste? ;)
[03:35] <Toma-> evert: highlight it, then use middle mouse button to paste
[03:35] <evert> ah ok :p
[03:35] <Toma-> highlight = copy
[03:35] <evert> i didn't found the copy option when i right clicked it
[03:36] <evert> is it case sensivitive ?
[03:36] <Toma-> is what case sensitive?
[03:36] <Kimppa> JDahl: ok, thanks
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> evert: It copies automatically when you highlight.
[03:37] <arctic> other option: Window -> save text
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> evert: Ctrl-C should work too, but would be redundant.
[03:37] <evert> i don't know the right english word ... does it matter of you use BIG letters or small letters when you do the commands in the terminal ?
[03:37] <Toma-> evert: yes.
[03:37] <arctic> yes!
[03:37] <arctic> linux is always case sensitive
[03:37] <_jason> evert, you used the right word, 'case-sensitive'
[03:37] <JDahl> Kimppa, you're welcome, but it probably it doesn't solve your problem completely (at least it didnt for me)
[03:38] <Toma-> sif -
[03:38] <Toma-> :D
[03:38] <Kimppa> JDahl: well, anything is better than this :)
[03:38] <slug> @Toma, same error "signal 11, exiting..." , strange thing is, that under hoary i never had a problem with arts
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> evert: Right term, we just didn't know what it was referring to.
[03:38] <evert> ok
[03:38] <Toma-> slug: have you got arts using oss or alsa?
[03:38] <KaRupT> Can anyone tell me what host keys i need to put in my sshd configig file, i need to disable protocol 2 and use 1??????
[03:38] <Toma-> slug: tried both?
[03:38] <evert> unknown file or map :s
[03:39] <slug> how do i do that?
[03:39] <evert> when i do the ls thing
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> Are we sure that whoever is in charge of such things is aware of the state of the repositories?
[03:39] <Toma-> slug: Contol Centre > Sound > Sound system, iirc.
[03:39] <slug> aja, i have set it at the moment to alsa
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> evert: In the command line.
[03:39] <evert> i found the wrong thing it's not .bin but its -bin
[03:39] <Toma-> evert: yep.
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> evert: It will tell us some stuff about the file.
[03:40] <evert> it gaves a green text
[03:40] <Toma-> evert: that means its executable
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> evert: That would be at least part of it!  Having the right name is good.
[03:40] <Toma-> try using armyops-bin in the launcher
[03:40] <evert> i'll change the .bin in the starter to -bin
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, btw, where can I find a listing of those color codes?
[03:40] <Toma-> evert: i still think its ment to be 'armyops' a level back
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> evert: Yes, do that.
[03:40] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: in your ls man :D
[03:40] <evert> oeps .. there was it already -bin :(
[03:41] <Toma-> or man ls
[03:41] <evert> so what now ? i know it's executable but it still don't works ...
[03:42] <Toma-> evert: have you tried checking to see if the game actually runs yet? in a normal terminal?
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Duh.  Still getting used to the actually having documentation concept.  (4-mo old Windows migrater.)
[03:42] <Toma-> oic
[03:42] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: i dont think the colours are listed in man ls tho...
[03:42] <arctic> ./ name-of-executable
[03:42] <Toma-> arctic: no space
[03:43] <Toma-> lowman62: plz dont ping me.
[03:43] <arctic> right..
[03:43] <arctic> sorry
[03:43] <lowman62> sorry Toma was an accident
[03:43] <Toma-> :) np
[03:43] <evert> whoohoo :) *happy* i made a new one and i clicked on the terminal mode and now it works :)
[03:43] <evert> thx guys :)
[03:43] <lowman62> was in wrong window
[03:43] <arctic> doing three things at the same time ain't helpful, I guess
[03:43] <arctic> :D
[03:43] <lowman62> ;)
[03:43] <evert> next question :D ?
[03:43] <Toma-> ill sit the next one out.
[03:44] <Toma-> ;~)
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> evert: Shoot.
[03:44] <_jason> evert, have you been saving all these questions for today :P
[03:44] <evert> i just have linux for 3 days :)
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, So if they aren't listed there, where might they be?  linux.org somewhere possibly?
[03:45] <arctic> greenhorn :D
[03:45] <Toma-> ive got a question.... anyone know how to get kde-libs to load at startup with gnome?
[03:45] <evert> how can i go if i'm ingame (fullscreen) back to my desktop without exiting the game ?
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> evert: If my modem had been working after 3 days I would have done the same.
[03:46] <arctic> Toma- they will be loaded automatically once they are needed afaik.
[03:46] <Toma-> arctic: i know. but i wanna get them to load at startup...
[03:46] <arctic> hmm... I think you will need a script then
[03:47] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/unmaintained/Colour-ls
[03:47] <Toma-> indeed.
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, Thanks.
[03:47] <lowman62> Toma > add it to your startup scripts
[03:47] <freddy> hello... i have a problem.. i installed ubuntu and my ethernet card wasn't connected, now i connected it, and ubuntu doesn't recognice it.. so i have no connection. what can i do? how can i install it?
[03:47] <jorgp> how long does it normally take when a package commit happens on the ml before it's finally uploaded if urgency=low
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, So the man claimed color is not used by default, but I always see it.  Why is that?
[03:48] <lowman62> freddy you seem to be connected to me :P
[03:48] <arctic> freddy: system ->system preferences ->network
[03:48] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: because the ls thats been configured for ubuntu does have it enabled
[03:48] <evert> how can i go if i'm ingame (fullscreen) back to my desktop without exiting the game ?
[03:48] <freddy> yeah... but i'm not in that computer now ;)
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, Ah.
[03:48] <lowman62> oh sorry freddy..tooo much caffien today :P```
[03:48] <arctic> dunno, evert.
[03:48] <freddy> lol
[03:49] <Toma-> evert: not easily.
[03:49] <QuestionMan> Is there a boot floppy to do a web install of Ubuntu? The computer has a fixed connection to the internet through its nic card. Where can I get this floppy image if it exists?
[03:49] <evert> i even tryed to bash the windows button and control alt del ... didn't work :o
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> evert: Run the game on a different display, and use Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8 to switch between them.
[03:49] <jorgp> what happen to w32codecs?
[03:49] <freddy> when i enter system->prefence->network it hangs!!
[03:49] <_jason> evert, did you try the show desktop shortcut?
[03:49] <freddy> artic: when i enter system->prefence->network it hangs!!
[03:50] <Toma-> evert: you can ctl-alt-backspace, but thatll just reset X and kill your armyops
[03:50] <evert> the desktop shortcut is working :)
[03:50] <evert> that i know
[03:50] <arctic> cool, freddy... could mean that your nic ain't detected/compatible
[03:50] <evert> but i want to stay ingame and when i have to wait for the new round just surf a bit on the internet or chat or ...
[03:50] <arctic> open a terminal
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> evert: Most easily done by creating a second user, doing a new login from Applications  > System Tools > New Login, which will automatically start up a second desktop on display 8, while your first one is on 7.
[03:50] <lowman62> what is your nic make freddy?
[03:50] <arctic> type : sudo lspci
[03:50] <_jason> evert, no I meant there is a keyboard shortcut that you press that will minimize apps to gnome, you can set it in system -> prefs -> shortcuts.... I don't know if it will affect the game though
[03:50] <arctic> that will list all hardware
[03:51] <evert> my americasarmy map is located in the user evert
[03:51] <trappist> all pci hardware
[03:51] <arctic> if it's detected, it will appear
[03:51] <trappist> and you don't need sudo for lspci
[03:51] <trappist> and if it's there it doesn't mean it's supported
[03:51] <Toma-> gosh kopete is rad.
[03:52] <armak> como instalo o msn no ubuntu?
[03:52] <arctic> sorry, I am usually a fedora user, so I am used to launching things with sudo as fedora is stricter in its security policy :)
[03:52] <ubuntu> armak use gaim
[03:52] <manuel_> alguien habla espaol?
[03:52] <Toma-> armak: i think "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[03:52] <arctic> un poco:)
[03:52] <manuel_> hola!
[03:52] <arctic> tienes algun problema?
[03:52] <manuel_> soy nuevo en ubuntu, y quiero escuchar mis mp3
[03:52] <manuel_> pero no funciona!
[03:52] <arctic> ah...
[03:52] <Toma-> la cucuraca
[03:53] <JDahl> arctic, how does running all programs with root privs help security?
[03:53] <eruin> #ubuntu-es
[03:53] <Toma-> fedora has selinux. hardc0re security
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> evert: Do check out the Keyboard Shortcuts that _jason mentioned; that might just do it.
[03:53] <arctic> longs story about SELinux, JDahl
[03:53] <cryptomatt> arctic: no luck with base config
[03:53] <arctic> will take care of manuel right now
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> evert: Running it on the second workspace might accomplish what I was thinking of with the other display too.
[03:53] <arctic> manuel, los codigos de mp3 no estan integrados en ubuntu
[03:54] <armak> toma: eu jah baixei o amsn_0.94-3_powerpc.deb e agora o que eu fao?
[03:54] <Chapium> !tell manuel_ about restrictedformats
[03:54] <arctic> hay que an~adir los despues.
[03:54] <manuel_> ups
[03:54] <cryptomatt> even my graphics card settings are ruined.. dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg doesn't do any good
[03:54] <Toma-> armak: englese? :(
[03:54] <arctic> mira al ubuntu-faq
[03:54] <evert> i checked the shortcuts but none of them works ...
[03:54] <cryptomatt> it brings me back to my original 640x480
[03:54] <manuel_> ok, gracias!!
[03:54] <arctic> sabes,
[03:54] <evert> if i do alt F9 i just get a black screen ?
[03:54] <Toma-> !es
[03:54] <ubotflu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:55] <nlfsoftware> arctic, eres de donde?
[03:55] <arctic> el problema es que mp3 y otros formatos no son libres si no propretarios
[03:55] <arctic> hamburgo, nlfsoftware
[03:55] <paddy2706> spanish please in channes #ubuntu-es
[03:55] <arctic> lol
[03:55] <manuel_> chile!.... ok ubotflu...
[03:56] <windowmaker> has anybody here used fuhquake? and if so, have you got the audio working?
[03:56] <armak> toma: I lowered amsn_0.94-3_powerpc.deb now and what I make to install?
[03:56] <evert> i have to go (tommorow an exam of fysics .. i still have to learn everything of it :(:( ) thx to all who helped me ... you are all really great !
[03:56] <nlfsoftware> arctic,you spek portuguese too? ;)
[03:56] <arctic> no
[03:56] <Toma-> armak: sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.94-3_powerpc.deb
[03:56] <arctic> only a very little bit of galician
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> evert: Try running it on the second workspace to the right, and use the move to workspace left shortcut, and see if that will do it.
[03:56] <nlfsoftware> :)
[03:56] <evert> ok 'll try it
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> evert: I'm guessing you're minimizing the game, but leaving full screen up with what you tried, which would give a full screen of nothing.
[03:57] <arctic> crypto, does your system have onboard/shared gfx chip?
[03:57] <pablof> hi, i have a notebook dell with remote control. I can use the remote control with ubuntu ?
[03:57] <evert> i have to go now ... thx for the tips and i'll come back when i get troubble with installing the nvidia drivers (when i have updated that thing)
[03:57] <arctic> cu
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> pablof: You should be able to.  Search for the package for IR support.
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> evert: See you later.
[03:58] <evert> the ting of moving to the other tabblad don't works
[03:58] <cryptomatt> arctic: I presume so..
[03:58] <evert> cya
[03:58] <cryptomatt> I know its onboard, but no idea abt gfx
[03:59] <pablof> tonyyarusso: ok, but i get all functionality ?
[03:59] <armak> toma: where I type this = to tar - xvzf amsn-0_94.tar.gz
[03:59] <arctic> hmmm....
[04:00] <Toma-> armak: didnt you have a deb file?
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> pablof: I have no idea.  You'll have to try it, and then ask if something doesn't work.
[04:00] <pablof> tonyyarusso: ok, thx
[04:00] <arctic> only solution i can come up with right now is to add a suported gfx card to a free slot
[04:01] <cryptomatt> umm
[04:01] <arctic> but if you can find out which gfx chip it is, maybe you can tweak xorg ccordingly
[04:01] <cryptomatt> lemme see with xorgconfig once more
[04:01] <arctic> accordingly
[04:01] <gnomefreak> is it possable to use live cd to restore grub after winxp install?
[04:01] <pablof> by
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Yes.
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: I'll get you instructions...
[04:02] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso,  just sudo update-grub?
[04:02] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:02] <gnomefreak> ty tonyyarusso
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: np.  I'm going to have to do the same thing, b/c my dad had to reinstall WXP while I was gone.
[04:03] <ubuntu> why ubuntu under gnome is very slow on my laptop inpiron 8200(dell) and i have install the nvidia drivers
[04:04] <JDahl> ubuntu, the gfx drivers shouldnt anything to do with how Ubuntu runs
[04:04] <_jason> ubuntu, I run ubuntu on an inspiron8200 and it seems faster to me than XP.  Slow in genereal or only for particular programs?
[04:04] <mmans> Hi! Is it posible to disable the ata_piix kernel module during the boot of the ubuntu installer?
[04:04] <Toma-> ubuntu: open up a term and run top. see what using all your cpu/mem
[04:05] <ubuntu> it xorg who use 25%
[04:05] <shayne> im using it on an 8200 also
[04:05] <Toma-> 25%?!?!
[04:05] <shayne> im having an issue where my dell wireless card is not support (i think) but my cisco is
[04:06] <arctic> JDahl, this can be the case. bvc reported to have his box slowed down to gfx-accelleration
[04:06] <Toma-> ubuntu: you havent tried enabling composite have you?
[04:06] <shayne> so everytime i reboot, i have to disable the dell and enable the cisco
[04:06] <armak> toma: now I lowered this another one msn amsn-0_94.tar.gz
[04:06] <arctic> after disabling gfx-accel, it ran fast again
[04:06] <armak> toma: where I type this = tar - xvzf amsn-0_94.tar.gz ?
[04:06] <shayne> is there any way of setting the cisco as my default and have it stay that way?
[04:06] <Toma-> armak: not lowered, downloaded.
[04:06] <Toma-> armak:  "tar -xvzf amsn-0_94.tar.gz"
[04:07] <mindlace> so.... i was an idjit and installed from the i386 disk on my amd-64... any way to change the architecture of this system without reinstalling?
[04:07] <spola> if i run "PATH=/home/olmo/bin/ program --args" in ps aux it shows up as "program --args". How can i see (in ps) what the path of program is ?
[04:07] <cryptomatt> I checked my xorg log file.. there is something weird there..
[04:07] <cryptomatt> (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)
[04:08] <windowmaker> Toma-, i restarted my computer and ran the echo commands for fuhquake and it works fine.... but i forgot what file i'm supposed to add the commands to so it does it at boot
[04:08] <_jason> ubuntu, I disabled RenderAccel for my card because apparently there was a memory leak.  I don't know if they havve fixed it by now, but you may want to try it
[04:08] <Toma-> windowmaker: well,
[04:09] <Toma-> you need to make an executable script, then put it in /etc/init.d
[04:09] <windowmaker> Toma-, that's not how i did it last time
[04:09] <_jason> ubuntu, want to try taht and see if it helps?
[04:10] <windowmaker> Toma-, i had to do the same thing for RTCW: ET... and it wasn't like that
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> mindlace: You were able to install with the wrong disk?
[04:10] <Toma-> after that (with all the commands you want to run it it), you simple "sudoi update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults
[04:10] <ubuntu> k i try
[04:10] <nlfsoftware> arctic, here is my status... when I try to mount the partition, the system tell me that the partion is alredy monted or the destination folder is ocupied... I do a refresh in the older and noting is there..
[04:10] <michal`> hey, i'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu system to the latest development release, could you show me example sources.list that allows me to do such an upgrade ?
[04:10] <Toma-> well its how i did it
[04:10] <Kyral> michal`: Mind if I PM You?
[04:10] <_jason> michal`, search the wiki for breezy upgrade
[04:10] <nlfsoftware> i look into the media directory and the mnt directory and nothing there...
[04:10] <nlfsoftware> any idea?
[04:11] <Kyral> _jason: I think he asked for Dapper
[04:11] <_jason> ah sorry michal` did not see that
[04:11] <_jason> thanks kyral
[04:11] <michal`> Kyral: no problem, can be pm :)
[04:11] <arctic> nlfsoftware: do you have a live cd like knoppix or kanotix? if yes, fire it up and check your harddisks intensively. There seems to be definitely wrong on the drive.... if it is formatted and equipped with partitions
[04:11] <arctic> +something
[04:12] <arctic> i need to learn typing again :P
[04:12] <windowmaker> does anybody here now how to make a command run at boot-time?
[04:12] <windowmaker> know how*
[04:12] <nlfsoftware> any way to reinstall grub? or ubuntu whitout losse what I have I my hard rive
[04:12] <nlfsoftware> drive
[04:12] <Toma-> meh.
[04:12] <Toma-> cyas
[04:12] <freenik> windowmaker: init scripts
[04:12] <nlfsoftware> me too
[04:13] <windowmaker> freenik: how?
[04:13] <nlfsoftware> I will get knoppix...:S
[04:13] <JDahl> windowmaker, put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> a) What are runlevels?, b) How can you start to different ones?, c) How can you do that with a Live CD?
[04:13] <mindlace> tonyyarusso, I was able to install i386 on amd x86_64, yes ... it fully supports a 32 bit mode
[04:13] <windowmaker> JDahl: thanks, that's the one i was looking for =3
[04:13] <arctic> yes, nlfsoftware. grub can be reinstalled once you have mounted the hdd-system
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> mindlace, interesting.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> mindlace, however, I doubt that you can then change that without redoing the install.  Maybe replacing every single architecture specific package with apt, but that hardly seems preferable.
[04:15] <arctic> runlevel: service that will be launched under certain boot-coditions. base system, root system, gui, ...
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> !runlevel
[04:15] <ubotflu> Syntax error in line 1, tonyyarusso
[04:15] <arctic> start new runlevel: at boot afaik
[04:15] <nlfsoftware> arctic, thanks... i will keep trying... becouse I have work on that disk... and I can loss that...:
[04:15] <nlfsoftware> :S
[04:15] <arctic> good luck to you
[04:16] <arctic> boot in failsafe mode and you are in runlevel 3
[04:16] <arctic> boot in normal mode and you are in runlevel 5
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows for grub restore.
[04:17] <KaRupT> How can i generate an rsa ssh key for protocol 1?????
[04:18] <Kyral> why would you...
[04:18] <shayne> what does Eror: given UDI is not a mountable volume mean
[04:18] <Kyral> isn't Protocol 1 horribly broken?
[04:18] <KaRupT> Cause No just horribly insecure
[04:18] <Kyral> oooh, a DD
[04:18] <shayne> thats the error i get when trying to mount a cd
[04:18] <KaRupT> And i need protocol one support
[04:19] <shayne> what does Eror: given UDI is not a mountable volume mean
[04:19] <shayne> im trying to get my cd rom to mount
[04:19] <ubuntu> karupt http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=761&group_id=1  for generating a rsa ssh key
[04:20] <arctic> bye
[04:20] <arctic> gotta go
[04:20] <Kyral> KaRupT: I think it is ssh-keygen -t rsa1
[04:21] <shayne> what does Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume mean
[04:21] <Kyral> shayne: I'm sorry I have never seen that
[04:21] <oskude> shayne, try google with your error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77141
[04:22] <shayne> for some reason i get this when trying to mount
[04:22] <oskude> shayne, i never seen that error, sry
[04:22] <dpupp> im so close to figuring out my tri-monitor set up problems... but i need some guidance with my xorg.conf editing....
[04:23] <oskude> shayne, can you mount other cds ?
[04:23] <ejofee> when i try to reboot to single user i am denied access to the shell. it simply won't accept any password. please help me.
[04:23] <dpupp> Do things follow a specific order of mentione in the xorg.conf?
[04:23] <shadox> hi all
[04:23] <shayne> i cant mount any discs
[04:23] <shayne> i installed fine with this drive
[04:23] <KaRupT> Kyral, thank you soo much man
[04:23] <oskude> shayne, and you have breezy all updated ?
[04:24] <shayne> yes
[04:24] <shadox> i just did in my terminal "sudo apt-get install w32*" does this command also includes the w32codecs?
[04:24] <Kyral> KaRupT: np, nothing that a quick look in the manpage didn't fix :D
[04:24] <shayne> ive been googling and aparantly its an issue with floppies as well
[04:24] <shayne> nautalus is the issue it seems
[04:24] <_jason> shadox, you shouldn't run commands if you don't know what they do, especially ones preceded by sudo
[04:25] <shayne> Update the pmount package to version 0.9.6, it's in breezy-backports. This will solve the problems with mounting a floppy.
[04:25] <shayne> how do i go about trying that
[04:25] <_jason> ubotflu, tell shadox about w32codecs
[04:25] <dpupp> anyone know if you have to follow a specific oder when editing the xorg.conf? im trying to add another card and monitor but i want card and monitor grouped for the first card then card and monitor for the second card instead of card card, monitor monitor.  is that ok? together...
[04:25] <shadox> _jason but with this command i can't harm ubuntu, or?
[04:25] <oskude> shayne, hmm, i dont think you need backports
[04:25] <shadox> _jason, nooo :D don't but the bot's on my roof
[04:25] <shayne> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html
[04:26] <lowman62> i believe you can get the w32codecs at the mplayer website and it has the info about installing it there
[04:26] <oskude> shayne, i mean, if theres a "bug", backports should not be the solution...
[04:26] <Kyral> shayne: no you shouldn't break it
[04:26] <Kyral> shayne: but file a bug on Malone so we know about it
[04:27] <Kyral> shayne: www.launchpad.net
[04:27] <ejofee> when i try to reboot to single user i am denied access to the shell, am i not? it simply won't accept any password. please help me.
[04:27] <KaRupT> Anyone know the name of that multi-protocol text based IM app?
[04:27] <oskude> shayne, wheres your cdrom connected ? ide ?
[04:27] <olicat> can i have a dualscreen setup with two different video card manufacturers? ati+nvidia?
[04:27] <Kyral> KaRupT: naim?
[04:27] <KaRupT> No i dun think that was the one i used
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Simply, it should, yes.  See _jason's response for the wisely editorial answer.
[04:28] <Kyral> KaRupT: well I know naim does that ;P
[04:28] <oskude> olicat, im pretty sure yes. (but i never doen dualscreen)
[04:28] <olicat> oskude, cheers
[04:28] <olicat> anyone ever done that?
[04:28] <oskude> olicat, try google or ubuntuforums.org
[04:29] <phanter> hello people, I have skype problems. I use a fairly clean Breezy system. When I start skype I can make one call and after that... I cannot make any calls anymmore
[04:29] <shadox> i'm getting sick of this apt-get :D
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Can you get extra packages with apt while running a Live CD?  (For instance, to show a Windows-user friend what they can do with Ubuntu.)
[04:29] <shadox> but on the other side, i start loving it :D
[04:29] <oskude> shadox, apt-get rulez :)
[04:30] <shadox> oskude, but it is hard in the beginning especially for a shadox ubuntu n00b :D
[04:30] <oskude> shadox, i agree, thats why theres synaptic :)
[04:31] <shadox> oskude, uhu, but i really don't get the synaptic part, there are soooo many things :s
[04:31] <KaRupT> Kyral, naim does icq and AIM, I found what i was lookin for, its called centericq  it does AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, IRC, Yahoo.
[04:32] <Kyral> KaRupT: ah
[04:32] <oskude> shadox, you mean many programs ?
[04:33] <dpupp> anyone know if there is a specific order to follow when editing the xorg.conf? i want to group device and monitor together for each of my video cards.
[04:33] <dpupp>  but i dont know if thats ok
[04:33] <oskude> dpupp, how about making a backup and just trying out
[04:34] <dpupp> thats what im doing while i wait on a response ;)
[04:34] <oskude> dpupp, :)
[04:34] <shadox> oskude uhu, exactly
[04:34] <oskude> dpupp, it could be that u cant use like "screen" before you define it,,,
[04:34] <dpupp> been trying to get this third monitor on a second vid card up and running....troublesome.
[04:35] <oskude> shadox, when i try new soft, i look their site and see if its still active, then i just install and test, when i dont like it, uninstall...
[04:36] <shadox> oskude, i noticed that when you'r linux user, you'r much more on your own
[04:36] <shadox> oskude, like google or ubuntguide will be your 2 best friends :D
[04:36] <oskude> shadox, and where do you search for windoze help ?
[04:36] <dpupp> are identifiers vital? or can they be changed to anything? i have two identifiers which are the same... wondering if i can change them to mon1 and mon2...
[04:37] <lowman62> when i started using linux i used to get the standard "RTFM" :P```
[04:37] <dpupp> both say "Default Screen"
[04:37] <shadox> nowhere, cus i actually now windows by my pocket :D
[04:38] <oskude> dpupp, i think you can name then what ever you like ... see "man xorg.conf"
[04:38] <oskude> well, the man pages are very helpfull (and should be the first place to look)
[04:39] <QuestionMan> Is there a boot floppy to do a web install of Ubuntu? The computer has a fixed connection to the internet through its nic card. Where can I get this floppy image if it exists?
[04:39] <ejofee> when i try to reboot to single user i am denied access to the shell, am i not? it simply won't accept any password. please help me.
[04:39] <oskude> QuestionMan, yeah, miss those floppies too (debian) :)
[04:39] <mikael_> anyone have problems with the latest fglxr driver ? everytime I shutdown / reboot / logout the screen goes black >_<
[04:39] <oskude> QuestionMan, i ment, dunno if there are ubuntu net floppies (net cd does exist)
[04:39] <ejofee> QuestionMan: could you not use an usb stick?
[04:40] <ejofee> QuestionMan: or a cd? nowadays, cds are cheaper than floppies!
[04:40] <QuestionMan> How can I boot from a usb stick? I don't think my bios setup gives me the option.
[04:40] <QuestionMan> The thing is I'm out of burnable cds and I'm too lazy to get more so I thought I'd use a web installer off a floppy.
[04:40] <oskude> QuestionMan, yup, thats why i liked the floppies too (my old crap cant boot from usb)
[04:41] <QuestionMan> The target computer, by the way, does not have an OS already so instlux won't work.
[04:41] <dpupp> ok here goes nothing. restarting gdm..
[04:41] <mikael_> anyone have problems with the latest fglxr driver ? everytime I shutdown / reboot / logout the screen goes black >_<
[04:41] <mikael_> anyone ? quite annoying
[04:41] <ejofee> QuestionMan: too bad then...
[04:42] <QuestionMan> So where can I see the web installer cd? Maybe it's small enough to fit on my tiny usb stick.
[04:42] <oskude> QuestionMan, ill seek (cant remember where i found it)
[04:43] <oskude> QuestionMan, hmm, found this first :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372
[04:43] <Johnson> hi
[04:44] <shadox> nooooo
[04:44] <QuestionMan> oskude: Thanks!
[04:44] <alexissoft> ups
[04:44] <alexissoft> :)
[04:44] <shadox> by installing my new codecs is deleted my mounted windows partitions :'(:'(
[04:44] <oskude> QuestionMan, or this mini.iso ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[04:45] <Johnson> how do i install kde theames on ubuntu i just followed the instructions on look-kde and the did work the direcotry they told me to go to dosent exsist any ideas on how to do it?
[04:45] <Johnson> didnt*
[04:46] <oskude> Johnson, dont know kde, but on gnome you just drag n drop the tarball in the theme manager
[04:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Any OpenOffice experts here?
[04:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Is it possible to adjust the boundaries of a "Labels" document after it has been created?
[04:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Maybe a better question: Is there an OpenOffice IRC channel?
[04:48] <ejofee> EnsignRedshirt: why don't you just try? (yes, there is one.)
[04:48] <Myrtti> EnsignRedshirt: very probably
[04:48] <nlfsoftware_help> arctic, is me again, a run the comand "sudo dmesg | tail"
[04:49] <EnsignRedshirt> I am trying #openoffice as we speak
[04:49] <mikael_> #openoffice.org I think
[04:49] <mikael_> :)
[04:49] <shadox> i can't mount my windows partitions nomore :'(
[04:49] <oskude> #openoffice.org seems to have more users...
[04:49] <nlfsoftware_help> and in the end of the line I get this: EXT3-fs error (device hdb3): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 1701672300)! EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[04:49] <EnsignRedshirt> oskude: Looks that way...
[04:49] <ejofee> EnsignRedshirt: but you may be surprised of how talkative they are.
[04:50] <nlfsoftware_help> hdb3 is my ubuntu partition...
[04:50] <nlfsoftware_help> any way to recover that?
[04:50] <ejofee> EnsignRedshirt: if you don't want to lose time, don't visit them. my opinion.
[04:50] <syntaxx> what is the name of ubuntu kernel at boot when using live cd?
[04:50] <shadox> can someone help me mount my partitions again, i receive error following the wiki page
[04:51] <robotgeek> shadox: did you try that nifty script to automatically mount partitions?
[04:51] <nlfsoftware_help> tonnyyarusso,  this message is too bad? msg ->EXT3-fs error (device hdb3): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 1701672300)!
[04:51] <nlfsoftware_help> EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[04:51] <nlfsoftware_help> is any way to recover that?
[04:51] <Joha1> Hi!
[04:51] <shadox> robotgeek, yup, that one i'm doing
[04:52] <syntaxx> what is the name of ubuntu kernel at boot when using live cd? is it live?
[04:52] <robotgeek> shadox: what error?
[04:52] <shadox> robotgeek, by sudo ./winmac_ ... it went wrong
[04:52] <Joha1> I shot my xserver with a wrong nvidia configuration away. Can somebody of you say me, which is the ubuntu xserver command to reconfigure the x-server?!
[04:52] <robotgeek> shadox: it went wrong isn't very descriptive :)
[04:53] <robotgeek> Joha1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:53] <shadox> robotgeek, "no usable win/mac paritions founded"
[04:53] <Dikiwinky> got problem with your X Joha1?
[04:54] <Joha1> thank you!
[04:54] <Joha1> Yes, I played with the nvidia module a bit, and made some shit!
[04:54] <[Kismet] > Hi all
[04:55] <Dikiwinky> try robo's or u can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change your driver line too "vesa"
[04:55] <rhayes> How do I mount an SMB share so i can get to it like a folder on my local filesystem?
[04:55] <robotgeek> shadox: hmm, i dunno what's wrong, but ask around here
[04:55] <scanwinder> ive got a winfast 2000xp tv tuner card(with bt878 chipset) and, ive tried various howto's for getting mythtv to work and none of them seem to work for me, can someone reccomend one that will help? - and im using ubuntu breezy
[04:56] <shadox> robotgeek, you 'r like the only one responding :(
[04:56] <Dikiwinky> rhayes: u can use smbmount from smbf package
[04:56] <robotgeek> shadox: paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" to the pastebin
[04:57] <shadox> k
[04:58] <shadox> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5926
[04:58] <syntaxx> guys i need the kernel name of live cd need to boot my /dev/hda3 please help
[04:59] <robotgeek> syntaxx: the default doesn't work?
[04:59] <robotgeek> syntaxx: just hit enter :)
[04:59] <syntaxx> robotgeek: yeah i did and it put me the live cd to boot.. i just need to boot my /dev/hda3
[04:59] <shadox> can someone help me with this >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5926 << problem? :(
[05:00] <robotgeek> shadox: since those entries are already in your /etc/fstab, it won't add them again
[05:00] <shadox> robotgeek, how do i clear them?
[05:00] <robotgeek> shadox: no need
[05:01] <shadox> robotgeek, so what do i need to do to make my win partitions work again? :$:(
[05:02] <CaptainMorgan> is Opera a Vindoze browswer? do I need an emulator to run it in linux ?
[05:02] <robotgeek> shadox: hmm, i don't use windows, but you can "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" , _comment_ out the windows partition and try again
[05:02] <scanwinder> CaptainMorgan: no, there is a linux version of Opera
[05:02] <robotgeek> CaptainMorgan: no, you have opera for linux
[05:02] <robotgeek> !opera
[05:02] <ubotflu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:02] <CaptainMorgan> scanwinder, free ?
[05:02] <KaRupT> HoANYONE know webpage to get access to a runing mindterm applet?
[05:02] <syntaxx> robotgeek: yeah i did and it put me the live cd to boot.. i just need to boot my /dev/hda3 how to pass the boot parameter to boot my /dev/hda3 though?
[05:02] <CaptainMorgan> thanks ;)
[05:02] <scanwinder> CaptainMorgan: yes, its now free
[05:03] <robotgeek> syntaxx: are you trying to fix grub or something?
[05:03] <syntaxx> robotgeek: indeed
[05:03] <shadox> robotgeek, nowing i'm a ubuntu noob running it voor 2 day's, what exactly do I need to do? :$
[05:04] <robotgeek> syntaxx: just boot from the live cd (choose rescue) and fix grub from there
[05:04] <robotgeek> shadox: paste your /etc/fstab to the pastebin :)
[05:04] <syntaxx> uhmm.. robotgeek but im using lilo
[05:04] <robotgeek> syntaxx: hmm, i don't use either grub/lilo. i dunno what to do :(
[05:05] <syntaxx> ic
[05:05] <syntaxx> robotgeek: live cd cant pass the boot?
[05:06] <robotgeek> syntaxx: hmm, i figure you can fix lilo also from rescue mode though
[05:06] <syntaxx> ok il try thanks
[05:06] <shadox> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5927 here you go :)
[05:06] <mikael_> anyone had problems with latest fglrx? my monitor is going black on shutdown / reboot ?
[05:08] <robotgeek> shadox: winmac_fstab already added what it needs to add, i would suggest you restart hal, sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[05:08] <robotgeek> shadox: i am not sure if it's hal or hald, use tab completion to find out
[05:08] <syntaxx> robotgeek: just press enter and look for rescue?
[05:08] <shadox> robotgeek, i'll simply reboot, and i'll C
[05:08] <shadox> brb
[05:08] <shadox> reboot
[05:08] <robotgeek> syntaxx: type rescue, (i think the install cd also has that option)
[05:11] <dpupp> is there a way to write a new xorg.conf? i think i really messed things up :(
[05:12] <robotgeek> dpupp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:12] <syntaxx> thanks robotgeek it works now
[05:12] <pieter_> hi
[05:12] <robotgeek> syntaxx: cool :)
[05:12] <dpupp> thanks
[05:13] <syntaxx> robotgeek: need to run my debian box thanks a lot
[05:13] <pieter_> is there a command to see which wireless networks are available? (iwlist doesn't seem to do it for me)
[05:13] <robotgeek> syntaxx: no problems
[05:13] <robotgeek> pieter_: what wireless card do you have, does it support wireless extensions?
[05:13] <pieter_> i got the intel 2200
[05:14] <pieter_> don't know if it supports wireless extensions..suppose so
[05:14] <pieter_> iwlist is the correct command normally?
[05:14] <pieter_> because I only see the network where i'm connected to..although there is another network available
[05:14] <Hander> what is the site to the seveas thingy?
[05:15] <fletch33> morning all! i have a noob question. for some reason my clock is no longer in the top right corner of my desktop. can someone tell me how to get it back. very strange
[05:15] <robotgeek> pieter_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[05:15] <robotgeek> fletch33: right click -> add to panel -> clock
[05:15] <Tomcat_> fletch33: Right click on the panel, "Add to panel", find the Clock, Add.
[05:15] <pieter_> tnx
[05:15] <meepy> Can I uninstall an application using the *.deb package again?
[05:16] <Hander> what is the url to the seveas thingy?
[05:16] <Tomcat_> meepy: Just do apt-get [--purge]  remove <app-name>
[05:16] <fletch33> robotgeek, Tomcat_ i have remove from panel but no option for add?
[05:16] <pieter_> meepy dpkg -e <app>
[05:16] <Tomcat_> meepy: No  need for the deb package a second time.
[05:16] <meepy> oook
[05:16] <meepy> i try
[05:16] <meepy> sec
[05:16] <Tomcat_> fletch33: Eh. But you're running Ubuntu and Gnome, right?
[05:16] <Hander> ugh........
[05:16] <fletch33> Tomcat_, yep
[05:17] <Tomcat_> fletch33: Oh wait. Click on an empty space, not on an applet.
[05:17] <Hander> Tomcat_ do you know the url for the seveas page that has all the apps on it????/
[05:17] <fletch33> Tomcat_, i did the option is not here
[05:17] <Tomcat_> Hander: No. Why should I? :)
[05:17] <robotgeek> Hander: seveas.ubuntu-nl.org, i think
[05:17] <fletch33> Tomcat_,  ooh got it thnkas
[05:18] <fletch33> Tomcat_, that was driving me nutz
[05:18] <Hander> thankyou
[05:18] <robotgeek> Hander: no, wait
[05:18] <fletch33> Tomcat_, much appreciated
[05:18] <Tomcat_> fletch33: Heh. :) Sure.
[05:18] <jono> hi all
[05:18] <jono> can someone tell me what patches are added to kernels in ubuntu?
[05:19] <meepy> It's because I installed Nessus Security Scanner using a ddeb file, now I want to uninstall it again, hmm, anyone know a trick?
[05:19] <jono> I want to compile my own 2.6.14 but I don't want to miss off any important patches
[05:19] <Dikiwinky> apt-get remove nessus?
[05:19] <robotgeek> Hander: it's http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ , but i think it's down
[05:20] <fletch33> Tomcat_,  well 1 more question. it use to be in the far right which is where i like it now it is to the left of the main right panel. i hit move but it wont let me move it all the way over. any suggestions
[05:20] <jono> anyone?
[05:20] <Dikiwinky> unlock 1st
[05:20] <Tomcat_> fletch33: Click on the applets that won't let it move any further, and uncheck "lock to panel"
[05:20] <Tomcat_> fletch33: After moving it, check it again to make sure it will stay that way.
[05:20] <robotgeek> jono: read the changelog?
[05:21] <Tomcat_> fletch33: For the icons that running programs install there, you have to click on the little vertical bar to unlock those... bit hard to find.
[05:21] <fletch33> Tomcat_,  i will work on that thanks again
[05:22] <Kuyaedz> I installed kubuntu-desktop and don't really like it.  Can someone suggest how to uninstall all of its packages?
[05:22] <jono> hmmmm, could I download the kernel source for 2.6.14 from dapper and compile it?
[05:22] <Tomcat_> Kuyaedz: Install debfoster, run it with sudo and tell it what packages you'd like to keep. It will uninstall the kubuntu packages then.
[05:22] <robotgeek> jono: i guess so
[05:22] <fletch33> Tomcat_,  that did it. learn something new everyday. love ubu. thanks
[05:22] <Ng> jono: there's a package that contains the patches
[05:23] <jordo23> Anyone know the location where I can get the .deb file for java's runtime env for ubuntu?
[05:23] <Tomcat_> Kuyaedz: Another way is to go through /var/log/dpkg.log and remove all the packages that are listed when installing kubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <thoreauputic> !javadeb
[05:23] <Tomcat_> fletch33: :-)
[05:23] <ubotflu> see javadebs
[05:23] <Ng> jono: linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12
[05:23] <jono> Ng, do you know if the dapper kernel source will work if I compile it for breezy?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> !javadebs
[05:23] <ubotflu> thoreauputic: Are you smoking crack?
[05:23] <jono> Ng, I need 2.6.14
[05:23] <meepy> Thanks for the help!
[05:23] <Ng> jono: I doubt it'll work
[05:23] <Kuyaedz> It would be nice if, since it installs all dependent packages it could also remove all of the same with the same command
[05:24] <mikael_> anyone know how to solve an issue with fglrx ? my screen goes black on shutdown :S
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> having trouble getting opera to install.... I unzipped the tar through archive manager... I try to run the browser it asks me where , terminal or simply run, I try both ... neither starts it.. any ideas
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> umm... what's with "ubotflu" ? is the bot unwell ?
[05:24] <pieter__> does IWLIST scan not display any other wireless networks then the one you are connected to?
[05:24] <robotgeek> Kuyaedz: unforuntately, that's a meta-package, so the only way is debfoster/deborphan
[05:24] <Chapium> CaptainMorgan: try running the file you are executing via terminal
[05:24] <jono> Ng, why?
[05:24] <robotgeek> pieter__: hmm, no. it does display all other information also
[05:25] <Dikiwinky> it's more easier if u download the deb version of opera, capt ;)
[05:25] <pieter__> when I disconnect from my wireless network and run iwlist, then I see all the networks available
[05:25] <pieter__> if I connect to a network, then I only get that networks as a result
[05:25] <Tomcat_> pieter_: Might be a weird wireless driver oder setting.
[05:25] <jordo23> _jason: What's that location for Java's j2se runtime env .deb file again? (From last night)
[05:25] <CaptainMorgan> Dikiwinky, thought tha't what I downloaded...
[05:26] <mikael_> is there any way I can resize my root partition when it's mounted ?
[05:26] <pieter__> hmm, crap
[05:26] <pieter__> thanks anyway
[05:26] <rhayes_> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between virutal desktops in gnome?
[05:26] <Tomcat_> mikael_: No.
[05:27] <robotgeek> rhayes_: ctrl + alt + arrow
[05:27] <Tomcat_> mikael_: You could try, but I'm pretty sure you'll get filesystem corruption.
[05:27] <rhayes_> thank you
[05:27] <Dikiwinky> sudo dpkg -i your_opera_deb_file_location
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> two lines okay tt paste? The Opera binary is not located at "/usr/lib/opera/8.51-20051114.6/opera".
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> Please modify the wrapper script at "/home/captain/Desktop/opera/usr/bin/opera".
[05:27] <mikael_> Tomcat_: ok, thx. you know how to resize it without mounting it ?
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> was the error..
[05:27] <robotgeek> the freaking bot has flu
[05:28] <jordo23> Does anyone know where I can download a .deb file for j2se runtime env?
[05:28] <robotgeek> jordo23: one moment
[05:28] <Lukian> mikael_: boot from elsewhere.
[05:28] <jordo23> robotgeek: thanks
[05:28] <Tomcat_> mikael_: parted is my way, but there are others.
[05:28] <vvlaw_> where are you get the wallpapers?
[05:28] <Tomcat_> mikael_: Just use any partitioner that supports Linux.
[05:29] <mikael_> Tomcat_: only have ubuntu installed. think I can do it with the cd ?
[05:29] <robotgeek> vvlaw_: art.gnome.org/gnome-look.org
[05:29] <Tomcat_> mikael_: Somehow, yes. Can't really walk you through the process though, it's been a while.
[05:29] <thoreauputic> mikael_: if you have a live CD you can use gparted
[05:30] <mikael_> don't have it :S I'll try suse live cd
[05:30] <irvin> jordo23 do you need 1.5 or 1.4??
[05:30] <vvlaw_> robotgeek,thanks,but i'm mean that other wallpapers ,not linux only
[05:31] <robotgeek> vvlaw_: ask uncle google :)
[05:31] <jordo23> irvin: either....but I got it now.....just couldn't remember the website. How come you can't install java's runtime env from apt?
[05:31] <max_c> Does anyone in here use BASHPODDER?
[05:31] <irvin> jordo23 yes you can
[05:31] <jordo23> robotgeek: thanks.
[05:31] <robotgeek> jordo23: no problem
[05:31] <vvlaw_> robotgeek,hehe~thanks....
[05:31] <jordo23> irvin: Everytime I try it says that it can't find the package.
[05:32] <robotgeek> max_c: i tried it once, it seemed to work
[05:32] <irvin> j2re1.4 is in multiverse
[05:33] <max_c> robotgeek: do you know how to make it only download the most recent file?
[05:33] <jordo23> irvin: do you know the exact package name?
[05:33] <robotgeek> max_c: sorry, i don't listen to podcasts
[05:33] <irvin> jordo23: it's j2re1.4
[05:34] <irvin> for the runtime env
[05:34] <irvin> j2sdk1.4 for the sdk
[05:34] <irvin> you need to enable multiverse tho
[05:35] <jordo23> irvin: works great....how come when I search for that package in Ubuntu's package site it doesn't find it?
[05:35] <irvin> hmm
[05:36] <_jason> jordo23, did you get the location yet?  i was away
[05:36] <irvin> i just browsed it over packages.ubuntu.com
[05:36] <jordo23> _jason: yeah....thanks.
[05:38] <jordo23> irvin: yeah....I found it now.....
[05:38] <jordo23> irvin: thanks for all your help.....you too robogeek and _jason.
[05:38] <robotgeek> jordo23: anytime
[05:38] <rhayes_> how can you change file assoications in gnome?
[05:39] <irvin> jordo23: no problem
[05:39] <Lukian> how do i revoke a user's sudo?
[05:39] <_jason> rhayes_, right click -> properties -> open with
[05:39] <_jason> Lukian, sudo -k
[05:39] <Kuyaedz> i've removed kubuntu with debfoster.. how do I now reconfigure to make gnome default?
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> Say someone wants to install Kubuntu.  Catch is, they have a dial-up internet connection.  I have the normal Ubuntu CDs from ShipIt.  Which would be easier given the lack of internet speed: Installing from the CD and trying to change with apt, or downloading a Kubuntu ISO?
[05:40] <robotgeek> Lukian: you can do it my removing the user from /etc/sudoers, use visudo
[05:40] <bkw> If I install kubuntu from 5.10 cd, will the upgrades make future releases of kubuntu installable?
[05:41] <Riddell> tonyyarusso: first
[05:41] <Riddell> bkw: yes
[05:41] <irvin> tonyyarusso: kubuntu isn't included in shipit, you'll have to get the kubuntu ISO
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> irvin: I know, that's why I'm here.
[05:41] <bkw> Riddell: available in automatic update list?
[05:42] <void^> installing from the cd and downloading kde only should still be better
[05:42] <Riddell> bkw: you'll have to change the apt sources when the time comes
[05:42] <Riddell> then just click upgrade
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Riddell: What all needs to be apt-got to get the equivalent of Kubuntu then?
[05:42] <irvin> tonyyarusso: given the choice of apt-getting it or downloading the iso, i'd go for the iso
[05:43] <irvin> tonyyarusso: kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> irvin: Why?
[05:43] <bkw> Riddell: I assume it will be a painless process without any pkg conflicts etc?
[05:43] <Riddell> tonyyarusso: kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <Riddell> bkw: of course :)
[05:43] <robotgeek> where do i get daily dappers from? i think i'm going to do it today. i've already started data backup :)
[05:43] <Riddell> robotgeek: cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu
[05:43] <irvin> tonyyarusso: well you'll have a nice kubuntu cd which you can install later
[05:44] <robotgeek> Riddell: thanks
[05:44] <bkw> Riddell: then the time is here to install kubuntu from install cd on a 300GB disk :) btw, thx.
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Riddell and irvin: And then the dependencies of that will take care of anything else?
[05:44] <irvin> tonyyarusso: yes
[05:45] <jordo23> What's the best vnc viewer for UBUNTU?
[05:45] <mp3guy> i'm getting a new laptop, is there anyway to "ghost" my current hard drive onto the laptop from my desktop?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Riddell and irvin: As well, once a person a person has multiple desktops, how do they choose which one to use?
[05:45] <rhayes_> With windows, and my onboard sound(nForce2 chipset) i could use mic and input lines for 5.1 Surrond sound, any one know of a way to do this in gnome?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: I was told TightVNC.
[05:46] <irvin> tonyyarusso: you can easily select it via gdm or kdm whichever you have installed
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> What other desktop environments are reasonably good, in case my friend wants to investigate things beyond Gnome and KDE?
[05:47] <irvin> tonyyarusso: there's xubuntu-desktop which has xfce
[05:47] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: xfce4 is nice - and quick
[05:47] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: xfce is very popular... i prefer just going w/ window-managers like openbox or windowmaker
[05:47] <sword> sup
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> cmatheson, so what's the difference between just a window manage and a de?
[05:47] <sword> so my X server keeps crashing and rebooting when using my browsers unexpectdly
[05:48] <sword> but something is up with azureus (java bittorent client)
[05:48] <sword> so i unistalled it
[05:48] <irvin> tonyyarusso: a desktop environment is a complete desktop (apps and all) which a wm is just a wm
[05:48] <cmatheson> sword: desktop environments usually include crap like web-browsers, file-managers, an API (xfce just uses gtk still), etc.
[05:49] <cmatheson> sword: sorry, wrong nick
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> irvin and cmatheson: Ah.
[05:49] <sword> np
[05:50] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: gnome's wm is metacity (but you could switch that out to openbox or something too... just most people stick w/ the defaults.  i don't think kde's is as readily switcheable, but i'm sure it's possible somehow
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> irvin: And a window manager could be selected as what to use in the same way as Gnome vs KDE?
[05:51] <irvin> tonyyarusso: i think so yes
[05:51] <bkw> I install kubuntu this time. Tired of testing gnome again. Gnome really pissed me as a end user when there's lack of user documentation at gnome.org (which more or less looks commercial nowadays).
[05:51] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: yeah, you just might not have all the task-bar stuff and the panels and what not... if you install some windowmanagers then you can just choose them from the sessions menu in gdm
[05:51] <Chapium> bkw:  vmware.com
[05:51] <bkw> Chapium: If you pay the license I'll get it.
[05:52] <Chapium> bkw: one moment
[05:55] <phiqtion> why cant i configure the divx4 codec in dvdrip? it seems i dont have the codec. where can i get it from?
[05:55] <aquarion> www.divx.com
[05:56] <phiqtion> aquarion: for ubuntu?
[05:57] <aquarion> phiqtion, You probably need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (Codec is both encoder and decoder, so you _should_ be able to encode once you can play, but it's beyond my skillset, sorry)
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> Riddell, irvin, cmatheson: So what are we probably talking as far as bandwidth/dl time on dial-up for kubuntu-desktop and dependencies?
[05:58] <dallows> I have problem with apt.. How can I configure apt from FTP ? But not wih base-config
[05:58] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: oh man, i don't think i would go there on a dial-up
[05:58] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: several hours at least i would think
[05:58] <phiqtion> aquarion: that website just gives me the w32codecs
[05:59] <cmatheson> tonyyarusso: probably be better off downloading  the kubuntu iso at work or ordering one or something (although if you have a dedicated line i guess you *could* download it all)
[06:00] <dallows> >>> I have problem with apt.. How can I configure apt from FTP ? But not wih base-config. Can anyone help me ? <<<
[06:00] <cmatheson> dallows: just change all the http's in your /etc/apt/sources.list to ftp
[06:00] <phiqtion> why cant i configure the divx4 codec in dvdrip? it seems i dont have the codec. where can i get it from?
[06:00] <dallows> cmatheson: thx bro. ;-)
[06:01] <cmatheson> dallows: np
[06:02] <BoukenPink> Hey all. :D Couldn't hurt to ask this here, to see if anyone might know anything about it... I'm trying to run a game in wine (www.babyz.net <- this one) and it runs fine and everything, but it's running slow or running at a low FPS... Does anyone know if there's anything I can do to speed it up?
[06:03] <Ng> phiqtion: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[06:04] <dallows> cmatheson: there was cdrom.. so I get in front of it ## ;-) and now it runs.. thx a lot again
[06:04] <freemanen> how much better do you think dapper drake would be?
[06:04] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm trying to unmount my cdrom, but I always get a message saying it's busy. There shouldn't be any applications using the cdrom. Any idea how I can get it to unmount / list applications using the cdrom?
[06:05] <cmatheson> Kimppa: fuser /dev/cdrom
[06:05] <trappist> or lsof /dev/cdrom
[06:06] <jredburn> If I initially installed just the baseline server system, is there an easy way to install the "rest" of the system? ie. X, font server, Gnome ...
[06:07] <cmatheson> jredburn: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <rhayes_> im not asking for directions, but does World of Warcraft run on current patch to game and ubuntu?
[06:07] <rhayes_> with wine that is
[06:07] <robotgeek> jredburn: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <jredburn> thanks guys
[06:08] <trappist> rhayes_: I believe it runs fine in cedega
[06:08] <jredburn> does Ubuntu use XFS by default? or something else?
[06:08] <rhayes_> cedega cost money thou correct?
[06:08] <jredburn> Font server XFS, not the filesystem
[06:09] <trappist> rhayes_: you can get the cvs version for free and build it yourself
[06:09] <trappist> rhayes_: but it's very cheap and very nice.  a great investment imho.
[06:10] <cmatheson> trappist: so i've never tried this (i don't own any games), but some of the stuff i read on slashdot comments/etc. say that the cvs is way out-dated... is that true?
[06:10] <CaptainMorgan> dayum.... gftp is quite annoying... disconnecting every five minutes..that no other notifications of when a file is done or not processed... not sure Im lovin it.. any othe ftp's ?
[06:10] <vvlaw_> anybody use the plam handheld worked well?
[06:10] <cmatheson> CaptainMorgan: ftp?
[06:10] <Kuyaedz> anyone up to the challenge of figuring out why my sound stopped working?
[06:11] <trappist> cmatheson: the problem with the cvs version is that due to licensing issues and such, it lacks support for things like safedisc so there are a lot of copy-protected games that can't be played with it
[06:12] <cmatheson> trappist: i see, thanks
[06:12] <popey> vvlaw_: yes, I use a PalmIIIx with Evolution to sync my contacts and to-do list
[06:13] <rhayes_> how do i kill X, so i can restart it
[06:13] <popey> rhayes_: CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[06:13] <nlindblad> popey, hi :)
[06:13] <popey> heh
[06:13] <nlindblad> popey, Bluetooth?
[06:13] <popey> nlindblad: no, serial
[06:13] <popey> i do have bluetooth working nicely tho
[06:13] <nlindblad> oh
[06:13] <irvin> rhayes_, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[06:13] <popey> but my palm doesn't have bt
[06:13] <nlindblad> oki
[06:14] <nlindblad> can Evolution handle bt?
[06:14] <shreevatsa> What do I do about this? "GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY"
[06:14] <ubuntu_> comment on peut caller le lecteur de disquette sous un cd ubuntu live ?
[06:14] <shreevatsa> when I do apt-get
[06:15] <trappist> ubuntu_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[06:15] <cmatheson> shreevatsa: you can ignore it for now if you trust the site... otherwise you need to download the pgp key... i forgot how but i think a quick google could tell you
[06:15] <robotgeek> gpg --import
[06:15] <ubuntu_> can anybody help me ? How can I use a floppy on ubuntu live cd ?
[06:15] <robotgeek> Riddell: what's your key, tell shreevatsa :)
[06:15] <trappist> it's not about if you trust the site - the gpg key verifies that it came from where you think it came from.
[06:16] <Orunitia> why is it that amarok puts my cpu usage to 90% or more? ...
[06:16] <ubuntu_> who's french ?
[06:16] <trappist> ubuntu_: everybody in #ubuntu-fr
[06:16] <cmatheson> ubuntu: napolean?
[06:16] <sureshot> i have donloaded gambas for ubuntu. installed it i think but i does not show up on the menus ????
[06:16] <shreevatsa> robotgeek: gpg --import what? From where? :)
[06:16] <oxez> ubuntu_: look in /media, you'll probably see 'floppy' or 'fd0'
[06:16] <sureshot> i am a newbe here
[06:16] <oskude> ubuntu, try "mount /media/floppy"
[06:16] <robotgeek> Orunitia: that's only initially, maybe turning off the send to last.fm helps
[06:17] <TmR> help? :S
[06:17] <djk_> is it possible to print pdfs from cli?
[06:17] <oxez> TmR: here is your anwser: ""
[06:17] <Crackez> man, i just found sopwith
[06:17] <trappist> djk_: yes, just use lp
[06:17] <Crackez> it is an awsome game
[06:17] <MickMcMack> sdl sopwith?
[06:17] <nayif> how can i test the new inataller OEM ?
[06:17] <MickMcMack> Crackez it is indeed. ^^
[06:17] <TmR> :P
[06:17] <Crackez> yup
[06:18] <trappist> djk_: if you're all set up with your cups server, default printer etc. you can just lp filename.pdf
[06:18] <TmR> if i connect to a server (accept this one) it stops after the indentiy
[06:18] <TmR> L:S
[06:18] <TmR> *** Looking up your hostname...
[06:18] <TmR> * *** Found your hostname (cached)
[06:18] <TmR> * *** Checking ident...
[06:18] <TmR> * *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[06:18] <robotgeek> shreevatsa: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:18] <TmR> i get then :S
[06:18] <robotgeek> TmR: don't paste in here
[06:18] <Orunitia> robotgeek - well ... it's "only" at 11% now
[06:18] <Orunitia> guess that helped, thanks
[06:18] <djk_> trappist: is it possible to print two pages on one page with lp?
[06:18] <TmR> ow sorry robbotgeek
[06:18] <robotgeek> Orunitia: hmm, no problem
[06:18] <oxez> TmR: sometimes you got to be patient
[06:18] <robotgeek> TmR: use the pastebin, see /topic
[06:19] <aquarion> TmR: Connecting to some servers means they attempt to contact an identd server on the machine you're coming from, this can take up to 90 seconds to time out
[06:19] <oxez> TmR: sudo apt-get install ident2
[06:19] <trappist> djk_: what do you mean by 'in one'?
[06:19] <sureshot> ok maybe i was rude by mistake. may i ask a question
[06:19] <w0rmz> is there any repo for azureus...??
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone installed Ubuntu on an HP Pavillion DV4150US laptop, or another of the DV4100 series?
[06:20] <ejofee> shreevatsa: have you fixed the problem with the key?
[06:20] <djk_> trappist: you know how you can choose to print 1,2,4 pages on 1 in kpdf, right?
[06:20] <shreevatsa> ejofee: I'm on it, I'll ask again if I need more help; thanks a lot!
[06:20] <w0rmz> any repo for azureus client ??
[06:20] <cmatheson> w0rmz: you just asked that
[06:21] <w0rmz> cmatheson, but no answer
[06:21] <cmatheson> w0rmz: so google
[06:21] <shreevatsa> It says "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found \n OK"
[06:21] <trappist> djk_: oh, I don't know
[06:22] <w0rmz> cmatheson, u are not helping me, if i know how to google... iwont ask here
[06:22] <robotgeek> shreevatsa: hmm, i dunno. maybe just wait and ask again
[06:22] <ejofee> shreevatsa: i would use this line: "key=<or whatever the error says it's missing, e.g. 4CF19C3233BAC1B3>; gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys $key; gpg --armor --export $key | sudo apt-key add -"
[06:22] <shreevatsa> But it got fixed, thanks
[06:22] <JDahl> w0rmz, if noone answers your question, it is because noone knows...
[06:22] <robotgeek> w0rmz: there's ahowto on the wiki
[06:23] <ejofee> shreevatsa: ignore "or"
[06:23] <sureshot> so much for help i will just go back to fedora 4 64
[06:23] <w0rmz> robotgeek, thanks
[06:23] <w0rmz> robotgeek, any suggestion for torrent client ?
[06:24] <ejofee> shreevatsa: (corrected) "key=<whatever key the error says is missing, e.g. 4CF19C3233BAC1B3>; gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys $key; gpg --armor --export $key | sudo apt-key add -"
[06:24] <JDahl> w0rmz, the basic gnome one is ok
[06:24] <robotgeek> w0rmz: i personally use either rufus.sf.net / the ncurses one which comes by default
[06:25] <w0rmz> hmm..
[06:25] <Linuturk> does ubuntu support dual monitor?
[06:25] <dpupp> how do you save a file in vi? my xorg config is messed up and im trying to fix it... but i dont know how to save in vi.
[06:25] <exarkun> evms crashes my system 5 times a day.  Is evms in dapper more stable?  would it make sense to just upgrade to a dapper kernel?
[06:26] <exarkun> Or can I disable evms completely in breezy somehow?
[06:26] <dpupp> linuturk,  ubuntu does support dual monitor... i am actually working on setting up a third monitor.
[06:26] <JDahl> dpupp, <esc> :wq
[06:26] <Ng> exarkun: how is evms crashing your machine?
[06:26] <Linuturk> dpupp, how do i enable the second monitor?
[06:26] <exarkun> Ng: By sucking I guess, I don't know
[06:26] <mitchstarr> im having problems with
[06:26] <Linuturk> dpupp, i'm in gnome
[06:26] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Thanks, but it seems to be waiting for input. Maybe the "apt-key add -" at the end?
[06:26] <Ng> exarkun: the implication of my question being "that is pretty unlikely" on the grounds that evms is entirely userspace
[06:27] <exarkun> Ng: evms has kernel components.
[06:27] <ejofee> shreevatsa: oops, wait
[06:27] <dpupp> linkturk what card are you using?
[06:27] <Linuturk> it's a laptop
[06:27] <exarkun> Ng: Otherwise it wouldn't require a kernel patch to use
[06:27] <Ng> exarkun: last I saw of it they removed them and rewrote it to use the existing device-mapper kernel components
[06:27] <Linuturk> dpupp, it's a laptop using the ATI IGP 340 M
[06:27] <exarkun> Ng: Okay... did they do that before or after the 2.6.12 in Breezy?
[06:27] <Ng> exarkun: I'm asking how you know it's evms doing it and not something else, basically
[06:28] <Crell42> Greetings.  I'm having what looks in the forums like a common-ish problem.
[06:28] <shadox> hmmm
[06:28] <ejofee> shreevatsa: sudo bash -c "key=<e.g. 4CF19C3233BAC1B3>; gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys $key; gpg --armor --export $key | apt-key add -"
[06:28] <hardbop200> Hello all - is it possible to install the Edubuntu packages through Synaptic on a "standard" 5.10 install?
[06:28] <shadox> on my way home, my ubuntu crashed !!
[06:28] <exarkun> Ng: I don't know, of course.  But the last 30 times my system has crashed, evms has had the last entry in the system logs.
[06:28] <dpupp> linuturk, im not quite sure on that one. ive only messed with nvidia dual head fx5200.  but rest asured, it is possible.
[06:28] <shadox> result: format in the bus
[06:28] <ejofee> shreevatsa: is it working now?
[06:28] <exarkun> Ng: It will sit there quiet and nice for hours, and then the second it starts doing anything the system goes down.
[06:28] <exarkun> every single time
[06:29] <Linuturk> dpupp, there isn't a simple gnome setting to apply? :(
[06:29] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Yes, thanks!
[06:29] <Crell42> I'm trying to install Ubuntu-Server (Badger) on a Dell server.  Part way through the install, though, I get the "Unable to install initrd-tools" error.  When I switch to the terminal, it's complaining about libnewt0.51 requiring libslang2, which is not going to be installed.  That's a different package than others seem to be reporting, though. :-)
[06:29] <ejofee> shreevatsa: yw
[06:29] <Crell42> Any suggestions?
[06:29] <hardbop200> What packages should I look for?  (hoping there's an Edubuntu package)
[06:29] <dpupp> linuturk, im afraid not. it requires editing your xorg.conf file.
[06:29] <exarkun> I can post the logs if that would be helpful.  I don't actually know what evms does really, or why it would crash a machine.  The log files look pretty suspicious, though.
[06:29] <shreevatsa> ejofee: It did say "gpg: No ultimately trusted keys found"; but apt-get update didn't give those errors. I hope it's not a problem, right?
[06:30] <oskude> Linuturk, if your ati chip is suppoerted by fglrx driver, you can also install the ati control panel, i think theres a "one-click" setup for dualscreen...
[06:30] <Linuturk> dpupp, where is that file? and what do I have to change?
[06:30] <rhayes> how do i pick which desktop manager is loaded by X?
[06:30] <ejofee> shreevatsa: it's normal for kubuntu (hopefully it will soon change)
[06:30] <shreevatsa> dpupp: To save in vi -- Hit ESC, then type ":wq"  (without the quotes)
[06:30] <Linuturk> oskude, where would I find those things out?
[06:30] <shadox> can someone tell me how to change my sources again from univers to multiverse?
[06:30] <greenpenguin13> this is probably a thik question, but how do i apply a patch to nexuiz?
[06:30] <cmatheson> rhayes: there should be a sessions menu  thing in gdm
[06:30] <ejofee> shreevatsa: or is it another repo that you're talking about?
[06:30] <Ng> exarkun: posting logs sounds like a good idea
[06:30] <mitchstarr> im ahving problems with cd burning can anybody help me?
[06:30] <oskude> Linuturk, are you trying to do dualscreen using your laptop screen and "tv-out" ?
[06:30] <cmatheson> shadox: why not just enable both?
[06:31] <Ng> exarkun: unfortunately I have to go, but I see no mention of evms in the ubuntu kernel patch for 2.6.12
[06:31] <dpupp> linuturk, the file is located /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup before you do anything) what you  need to change depends on what card you have.
[06:31] <zAo^> can anyone tell me if X is broken in Dapper?
[06:31] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Ok, thanks a lot. Yeah, both kubuntu and cipherfunk (I just enabled everything on the source-o-matic page :) )
[06:31] <Linuturk> oskude, no, it's another monitor cable. it's not a tv-out.
[06:31] <shadox> cmatheson, eurhm i'm on 5.04 enabling all would mean to much updates
[06:31] <greenpenguin13> zAo^:  not for me
[06:31] <exarkun> http://divmod.org/users/exarkun/evms-engine.log
[06:31] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, on nvidia?\
[06:31] <Linuturk> oskude, the tv out is just a s-video cable
[06:31] <exarkun> Ng: Can you give me an URL for that log?
[06:31] <dpupp> there is quite a bit of information on the forums on how to get it done, but its quite scattered. eventually once i get my problem fixed, im going to write a how*to on this....
[06:31] <greenpenguin13> zAo^: i use nvidia-glx
[06:31] <cmatheson> shadox: hmm, ok, then just open up /etc/apt/sources.list and change universe to multiverse
[06:32] <greenpenguin13> zAo^: but i do get low resolution :(
[06:32] <chance> Is there a good guide to speeding up Unbuntu desktop somewhere?
[06:32] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, thanks. gonna try
[06:32] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, ??
[06:32] <oskude> Linuturk, are you sure your ati chip can do dualscreen with laptop screen and the vga output ? (mine doesnt, but its old)
[06:32] <ejofee> shreevatsa: yes, do the same with all sources. two or three of them are not "ultimately trusted", but that's the best you can get, anyway :)
[06:32] <shadox> cmatheson, thnQ :)
[06:32] <cmatheson> chance: don't know of one... i'd recommend ditching kde/gnome though
[06:32] <mitchstarr> chance:  switch to xfce the ubuntu desktop is slow as dootlepie
[06:32] <Crell42> Hm, no ideas?
[06:32] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Yeah, I did that. Thanks a LOT; that was really quick help.
[06:32] <Linuturk> oskude, yes, i'm sure. I've done it in windows xp countless times
[06:32] <oskude> !ubotu tell oskude about ati
[06:32] <ubotflu> Wish i knew, oskude
[06:32] <zAo^> how do i check if dma is enabled?
[06:32] <ejofee> shreevatsa: anytime :)
[06:32] <hardbop200> I see now that there is a edubuntu-desktop package, I should have looked before I asked ;)
[06:32] <greenpenguin13> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4542750.stm
[06:33] <oskude> i hate that wiki :)
[06:33] <Crackez> twm is the fastest, probably lightest WM there is
[06:33] <hardbop200> zA0:  hdparm /dev/hda1
[06:33] <cmatheson> zAo^: hdparm -d /dev/your/hard/drive
[06:33] <chance> cmatheson, mitchstarr:  That rather sucks.  Kinda defeats the purpose of running Ubuntu .. it's pretty integrated Gnome interface.
[06:33] <cmatheson> ack! don't use tdm please
[06:33] <zAo^> cmatheson, -d, thanks :)
[06:33] <hardbop200> yes, what cmatheson said
[06:33] <cmatheson> chance: gnome is going to be slow on older hardware
[06:33] <oskude> Linuturk, the howto for ati binary drivers are in the wiki, cant find.... :)
[06:33] <chance> cmatheson:  I just switched over from Debian
[06:34] <dpupp> linuturk, search the keywords xorg.conf dual-display in the forums.  i would help you but im tied up on a problem im trying to solve at the moment. im running out of time unfortunatly.
[06:34] <rhayes> how do i load KDE not GNOME i installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:34] <chance> cmatheson:  Sarge .. running Gnome.  It was nice and responsive.
[06:34] <mitchstarr> Can someone help me with burning debian iso to a cd-r?
[06:34] <Crackez> fluxbox is pretty good, i run that on my old k6-2 300
[06:34] <Terminus> openbox too. :)
[06:34] <cmatheson> mitchstarr: load up k3b or gnome-toaster or something
[06:34] <_jason> rhayes, whe you login in, click on sessions
[06:34] <cmatheson> chance: i don't know... i would say the easiest way would be to buy more RAM if you're going to stick w/ GNOME
[06:34] <Crackez> k3b is really easy if you machine is fast enough
[06:34] <Linuturk> oskude, i'll search for them, thanks
[06:34] <oskude> rhayes, you can select in the login screen which window manager you want to load (kde / gnome /etc...)
[06:35] <chance> cmatheson:  "Nice and responsive" being relative .. at least in Debian, I didn't have the window-shadow thing happening (where you wait for the window border to draw after the main window has appeared(
[06:35] <Linuturk> dpupp, thank you too
[06:35] <mitchstarr> cmatheson:  i dont have either of those progs
[06:35] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, anything I shouldnt upgrade?
[06:35] <Crackez> cdrecord is a surefire way
[06:35] <cmatheson> mitchstarr: you could aptitude install them
[06:35] <oskude> mitchstarr, with gnomebaker you just click burn cd image and select the image file...
[06:35] <greenpenguin13> zAo^: you might want to b careful with the kernels
[06:35] <thoreauputic> mitchstarr: if you use gnome you can just right click the ISO in the nautilus file manager and choose "write to disk"
[06:36] <Linuturk> what is that wysiwyg editor for linux?
[06:36] <Linuturk> Niv?
[06:36] <chance> I'll just continue to investigate  It's faster now than it was when I installed yesterday due to a kernel recompile and various other package changes .. see where it goes.
[06:36] <zAo^> greenpenguin13,  thanks. i'm on 2.6.15-8 right now
[06:36] <mitchstarr> thoreauputic:  thats what i do, i right click the iso then it opens up a burn window , then i put in an empty cd-r then it says to put in an empty cd-r which i have allready done, it dosent seem to reconize that its there or something.
[06:36] <oxez> Linuturk: nvu ?
[06:37] <ejofee> is there any java packages repo for ubuntu?
[06:37] <trappist> mitchstarr: you're 100% certain it's an empty cd and that it's in there right side up?
[06:37] <exarkun> mitchstarr: Open a terminal
[06:37] <cmatheson> ejofee: there's some listed on the wiki iirc, it's pretty easy to make your own w/ java-package though
[06:37] <oxez> ejofee: there is the blackdown, and the official sun's
[06:37] <greenpenguin13> zAo^: tell me what screen rez you get please :)
[06:37] <exarkun> mitchstarr: Type "tail .xsession-errors -n0 -F"
[06:37] <Linuturk> oxez, yes, thanks
[06:37] <thoreauputic> mitchstarr: did you hit the cd button that appears in the toolbar ?
[06:37] <exarkun> mitchstarr: Then right-click/burn again
[06:37] <exarkun> mitchstarr: Look at the terminal to see if anything came up
[06:37] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, i'm on 1680x1050x24@60hz
[06:37] <mitchstarr> trappist yess brand new out the box,  a
[06:38] <mitchstarr> hold on one second
[06:38] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, got DRI enabled
[06:38] <ejofee> cmatheson, oxez: sorry for not making myself clear enough: i am talking about special repos containing (no-arch) *applications* written for java
[06:38] <greenpenguin13> zAo^: and does it look like that afer the upgrade?
[06:38] <ejofee> cmatheson, oxez: like azureus, jedit, etc.
[06:38] <shadox> hmmm sources problemes are comming up again :s
[06:39] <cmatheson> ejofee: oooh, i don't know of anything like that
[06:39] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, sorry? what do you mean?
[06:39] <oxez> ejofee: oh, sorry. Well I don't think there is a special repo for that
[06:39] <rowan> hello?
[06:39] <mitchstarr> exarkun  i have to load up xfce i have to switch desktops,  brb
[06:39] <oxez> ejofee: you must know the name of the app itself and search it
[06:39] <ejofee> cmatheson: but isn't it strange that ubuntu misses that?
[06:39] <ejofee> oxez: i can't find them in any repo
[06:39] <cmatheson> ejofee: i think it's because of java's non-free status.. debian wouldn't have that sort of  thing either
[06:39] <ejofee> oxez: it seems ubuntu avoids them for some reasons.
[06:39] <greenpenguin13> zAo^: does everyhing suddenly get a lot bigger after the upgrade to dapper?
[06:39] <oxez> ejofee: like which app?
[06:39] <cmatheson> ejofee: the only reason eclipse makes it in now is because it will compile w/ gcj
[06:39] <ejofee> cmatheson: many of the apps themselves are gpl'd
[06:40] <zAo^> greenpenguin13, I dont know. I just installed Flight 2. My former Breezy looked the same though
[06:40] <shadox> looks like my sources aren' correct, can anyone help me?
[06:40] <cmatheson> ejofee: yeah, i realize that.  but since they rely on non-free stuff i think it's harder to get  them into official repos (could be wrong)
[06:40] <ejofee> oxez: i guess jedit and azureus are gpl (or free software, anyway)
[06:41] <ardchoille> Does anyone know which file(s) are edited when you choose  "Go -> Clear History"  in nautilus?
[06:41] <dpupp> my third screen is display  X server is not dissabled. restart gdm when its configured properly. however, i can still log in my other two screens...  anyone seen this before?
[06:41] <ardchoille> I'd like to put it into a cronjob
[06:41] <dpupp> err... not = now
[06:42] <scott_> is anybody familiar with setting up a samba network?
[06:42] <mitchstarr> <-- is back
[06:42] <dpupp> i am so close to getthing this figured out..  im sure its something rediculously simple
[06:42] <ejofee> cmatheson: ubuntu has quite a few non-free packages in some repos. why should java be avoided?
[06:42] <mitchstarr> what was that command i  do for the cd ?
[06:42] <shreevatsa> cmatheson: java is not non-free by itself. Azureus can also run on any free java there is, right?
[06:43] <ejofee> cmatheson: (as i obviously don't care if they are *official* or not.)
[06:43] <shreevatsa> I have azureus installed. How can I know which repository I installed it from?
[06:43] <cmatheson> ejofee: yeah i'm not sure... you'd have  to ask the developers
[06:43] <cmatheson> shreevatsa: i don't think Azureus can run on free java's, but i'm not sure
[06:43] <ejofee> shreevatsa: oh, then you must have more repos than i do!
[06:44] <mitchstarr> Can Someone Help me with burning debian to cd from an iso file?   I right click on desktop> burn iso to cd> then i t says put cd into drive i do that and it dosent seem to reconize the cd,   what do i do?
[06:44] <shreevatsa> ejofee: I just have all the repos on http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:44] <ejofee> shreevatsa: could you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:44] <ejofee> shreevatsa: i have them, too, yet no azureus! strange.
[06:45] <Overlord_> Anyone conscious?
[06:45] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Oh, then maybe my memory is bad and I installed it externally... I don't remember doing any such thing, but still...
[06:45] <mitchstarr> can someone help me with cd- burning?
[06:45] <exarkun> mitchstarr: Did you look at .xsession-errors?
[06:46] <shreevatsa> ejofee: But no, I *did* install it from a repo.
[06:46] <ejofee> shreevatsa: btw, does seveas work for you?
[06:46] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Maybe it has been removed since then
[06:46] <mitchstarr> exarkun:  what was the commnad?
[06:46] <shreevatsa> ejofee: seveas doesn't work; all the others do.
[06:46] <exarkun> mitchstarr: tail .xsession-errors -n0 -F
[06:46] <shreevatsa> ejofee: I can't even go to the seveas page with a browser, so it is clearly down.
[06:46] <exarkun> mitchstarr: -n0 means "don't show any existing list" and -F means "show new lines as they appear"
[06:47] <ejofee> shreevatsa: so are you sure you only added repos from source-o-matic?
[06:47] <ejofee> shreevatsa: me neither
[06:47] <mitchstarr> exarkun: I do the command then try burning the cd right?
[06:47] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Yes. So the only possibility is that it was removed since the time I installed it
[06:47] <ejofee> shreevatsa: when did you install it?
[06:48] <exarkun> mitchstarr: yes
[06:48] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Maybe a month or two ago
[06:48] <n0x> hi i need some help with WEP who can help?
[06:48] <Overlord_> Has anyone had success with a g series PCMCIA card on ubuntu?
[06:48] <Linuturk> i got a question, why won't the "File Manager" in XFCE load up?
[06:48] <ctr> Hello
[06:48] <Overlord_> I'm thinking of going out today and getting one, but haven't had much luck with wifi cards under linux
[06:49] <ejofee> shreevatsa: ohh... i've been an ubuntu convert for less than one week :)
[06:49] <n0x> Overlord_ I set up my pcmcia wlan card via ndiswrapper...
[06:49] <mitchstarr> exarkun: okmitch@mitchy:~$ tail .xsession-errors -n0 -F
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:48:38: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage "_GTK_LOAD_ICONTHEMES" received
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:48:39: 0: for window 0x800001 (xscreensaver)
[06:49] <mitchstarr> Could not determine drive profile: non-MMC unit?
[06:49] <mitchstarr> Could not determine drive profile: non-MMC unit?
[06:49] <shreevatsa> ejofee: In fact, I think it was from universe or multiverse, not even one of the "private" repos, so it's even stranger.
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:48:58: -1: unrecognised ClientMessage "_NET_WM_STATE" received
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:48:58: -1: for window 0x1c00205 ((null) / (null))
[06:49] <trappist> Overlord_: look for an 'atheros' logo on the box and you can't go wrong
[06:49] <mitchstarr> Could not determine drive profile: non-MMC unit?
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:49:00: -1: unrecognised ClientMessage "_NET_WM_STATE" received
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:49:00: -1: for window 0x1c002b5 ((null) / (null))
[06:49] <Psych0tiC> I have a question on networking. To configure my network adapter (client) to connect to my wireless router, do I use the basic ubuntu utility or is there a program I can download to make it easier for me ?
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:49:02: -1: unrecognised ClientMessage "_NET_WM_STATE" received
[06:49] <trappist> mitchstarr: do not do that.
[06:49] <n0x> thaats very easy
[06:49] <AnonymousHive> Can anyone give me a link to the site that generates a ubuntu sorces.list for you?
[06:49] <mitchstarr> xscreensaver: 12:49:02: -1: for window 0x1c0037c ((null) / (null))
[06:49] <ejofee> shreevatsa: they may have changed some policies in the meantime?
[06:50] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Yeah, I guess so
[06:50] <oskude> !source-o-matic
[06:50] <shreevatsa> AnonymousHive http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:50] <Linuturk> i got a question, why won't the "File Manager" in XFCE load up?
[06:50] <Overlord_> trappist: do you happen to have a link to their logo?
[06:50] <AnonymousHive> Thanks
[06:50] <ejofee> shreevatsa: what makes you "think it was from universe or multiverse, not even one of the "private" repos"?
[06:50] <Overlord_> n0x: I had issues with ndiswrapper last time
[06:50] <trappist> Overlord_: it's not a picture, it'll just say 'atheros'
[06:51] <Overlord_> trappist: *nod*
[06:51] <oskude> Linuturk: dunno, maybe the log files can say something...
[06:51] <Linuturk> oskude, where is the log file?
[06:51] <trappist> Overlord_: you might hafta look kinda hard, but I've seen it on some d-link cards
[06:51] <n0x> cannot connect to wlan when wep activated who can help?
[06:51] <Linuturk> is there another file manager?
[06:51] <oskude> Linuturk: dunno, try in "/var/log/"
[06:51] <Overlord_> n0x: that's exactly what my problem with ndiswrapper was ;)
[06:51] <Overlord_> Good luck, I could _not_ get a key to hold
[06:51] <shreevatsa> ejofee: I kept a log of the first few things I did after installing Ubuntu, and I don't see... er, there *is* an uninformative "vi /etc/apt/sources.list" line in there, sorry :)
[06:52] <mitchstarr>  Could not determine drive profile: non-MMC unit?   anybody know what that means?
[06:52] <tlepes> HELP - system lost power, and I want to force fsck on my /home part but it complains that the device is busy and I can't unmount (doh!).  SO:  How do I force Ubuntu to re-check the filesystem on a reboot???????  (i.e. NOT have to reboot 29 more times)
[06:52] <n0x> Overlord_ you couldnt connect to a WEP secured net?
[06:52] <ejofee> shreevatsa: you mean there was another, unofficial, repo?
[06:52] <Overlord_> trappist: yeah, the real issue is that I'm trying to use a gift card at best buy, which means I have about 14 choices ;d
[06:52] <ghita> can someone please tell me if xserver is working in lates dapper updates?
[06:52] <Overlord_> n0x: exactly.
[06:52] <thoreauputic> tlepes: use the -f flag for the shutdown command
[06:53] <Overlord_> n0x: the key refused to stay
[06:53] <dpupp> is there a way to view an error log of the xorg.conf? i cant by the life of me figure out why this tri-monitor set up is not working.
[06:53] <n0x> Overlord_ which wlan card are you using?
[06:53] <tlepes> thoreauputic: THANKS - I will look into that and give it a try
[06:53] <tlepes> ttfn!
[06:53] <pedro> Hi...anybody can help me please? I need tk to irc brasilian bunto! ;o)
[06:53] <tomasz> hi - a bit general question - If one can ping, say www.google.com and get a prompt answer - and at the same time cannot enter the web page anyhow but by giving explicitly the IP. What could it indicate ?
[06:53] <n0x> Overlord_ one time igot connection with wep but XServer froze
[06:53] <dpupp> if anyone is fairly advanced with xorg.conf, could you please go over this xorg.conf and tell me if i goofed up soemthing? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=588252#post588252
[06:53] <oskude> thoreauputic: my man says "-F" (capital F ) (small f is skip fsck :)
[06:53] <shreevatsa> ejofee:  No. My memory says I only added universe and multiverse that time, but that could be wrong.  But I'm sure I didn't add anything not in the source-o-matic page (I don't even know of any).
[06:54] <seth_k|lappy> tomasz, name resolution failure. Make sure your nameservers are set up in the Networking panel.
[06:54] <thoreauputic> oskude: yes, you are right
[06:54] <thoreauputic> _F
[06:54] <thoreauputic> -F
[06:54] <AnonymousHive> Hey, um, what's the pathway for the sources.lst again?
[06:54] <_jason> AnonymousHive, /etc/apt
[06:54] <thoreauputic> oskude: he left too soon for me to correct it ;)
[06:54] <Psych0tiC> I have a question on networking. To configure my wireless adapter (client), to conenct to my router, what do I use to configure it? the ubuntu utility or is there a program which I can download so it can make the configuration easier for me ?
[06:54] <AnonymousHive> tks
[06:54] <oskude> thoreauputic: lol :)
[06:54] <Crell42> Can I wipe the MBR on a disk from Linux's fdisk?
[06:54] <exarkun> mitchstarr: for some reason, gnome isn't figuring out what your CD drive can do
[06:55] <oskude> thoreauputic: but thnx for the tip (never used it myself)
[06:55] <exarkun> mitchstarr: it does the same thing on mine.  I dunno why.
[06:55] <exarkun> mitchstarr: you'll probably have to use one of the other burning tools
[06:55] <robotgeek> Psych0tiC: the ubuntu utility should do fine, you can always choose gtk-wifi/wifi-radar/network-manager
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> scott_, I was painstakenly walked through Samba setup by cdubya.
[06:55] <thoreauputic> oskude: Well, I wish I'd got the F right the first time - I just did it from memory and got it wrong ;)
[06:56] <shreevatsa> ejofee: Ok, to completely confuse you now -- I started with a Hoary CD, not Breezy
[06:56] <oskude> thoreauputic: he'll be back :)
[06:56] <mitchstarr> exarkun ok because the drive works,  i used it to burn the ubuntu cd,   but its not working with ubuntu,      any recomendation for a good cd burning app?
[06:56] <tukuyomi> dpupp, BusID		"PCI:1:10:0"
[06:56] <shreevatsa> ejofee: I only upgraded to Breezy much later
[06:56] <Psych0tiC> robotgeek: but is there a program which could help me with the configuration ?
[06:56] <tomasz> seth_k|lappy: DNS seems to work ok - one can ping anythng and get the reply - only if you try using the names in the web browser - it gets stuck
[06:56] <tukuyomi> dpupp, are you sure about the 1:10:0?
[06:56] <viktor> wich program can i use to connect to msn messenger ?? uncept kopete and gaim ?
[06:56] <robotgeek> Psych0tiC: oh, to get it working, no :(
[06:57] <robotgeek> Psych0tiC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFihowto
[06:57] <thoreauputic> viktor: amsn ?
[06:57] <exarkun> mitchstarr: k3b is okay.  I usually use cdrecord on the command line, but it isn't very easy to use.
[06:57] <Psych0tiC> robotgeek: thanx :)
[06:57] <mitchstarr> i can find that in synaptic
[06:57] <mitchstarr> ?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> viktor: What do you have against Gaim?  I use it with MSN all the time.
[06:58] <viktor> i just dont think it looks so good =)
[06:58] <thoreauputic> viktor: it's in ubiverse
[06:58] <shadox> can some help this poor shadox noob? :(
[06:58] <Papageno> I just installed Ubuntu and X has trouble figuring out my resulotions. How do I make it work? I can hardly work in 640x480.
[06:58] <thoreauputic> *universe
[06:58] <robotgeek> shadox: back again?
[06:58] <viktor> and i want all the ordinairy msn events =)
[06:58] <shadox> robotgeek, yes, you don't want to know what happened :| ubuntu crashed!!
[06:58] <exarkun> mitchstarr: yes
[06:59] <robotgeek> shadox: uggh, ask around here
[06:59] <shadox> robotgeek, i formatted :D
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Makes me think of of a repo for including absolutely everything, non-free and all - the uberverse.
[06:59] <shadox> robotgeek, but, know i'm installing everything back again but i'm having some problems :(
[07:00] <thoreauputic> Papageno: run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: :)
[07:00] <ejofee> shreevatsa: i see
[07:00] <shadox> robotgeek, my codecs work, but i can't install realplayer cuz there is something with my libc6 :s or something like it
[07:00] <dpupp> tukuyomi, im not 100% positive of anything. but, what i did was, booted with that card being the only card... and i took the number that was in the xorg.conf that was working at that time.
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Have people seen this?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4542750.stm  A small portion of the end of IE is actually coming from M$ itself!
[07:01] <tukuyomi> dpupp, what is your problem exactely?
[07:01] <Papageno> thoreauputic: Do I need to destroy gnome and use a console only?
[07:01] <shadox> where can i update my libc6??
[07:02] <thoreauputic> Papageno: erm - of course not - the comman gives you the opportunity to configure X
[07:02] <dpupp> tukuyomi, i have 2 vid cards. 1 is dual head. that one is working fine with two monitors. I installed a 2nd card and attached a third monito.  that monitor is coming back black. however, when i boot the machine, that monitor is showing system status..... untill it hits the gdm. . then the other two monitors take over, and the third monitor shuts off.
[07:02] <tukuyomi> dpupp, forget about your problem, i've the thread before my eyes ^_^
[07:02] <Llewxam> does anyone know how i can install the p5 usb glove?
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Are the repos working again yet?  If so, apt will do that.
[07:02] <Paradoxx> sigh... why is it that Firefox + flash + linux = poo
[07:03] <shreevatsa> Paradoxx: flash = poo
[07:03] <shadox> tonyyarusso, repos? :$
[07:03] <Papageno> thoreauputic: When I say destroy gnome, I mean unload it.
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx, I have flash working in FF1.5
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Papageno: no need
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Repositories.
[07:03] <Linuturk> has anyone sucessfully setup evolution mail for a pop3 with gmail?
[07:03] <Paradoxx> shreevatsa: why you say that?
[07:03] <dpupp> being new to linux, its quite frustrating to get it going smoothly because i dont know many of the terms or tricks to recover a failed system... i have reinstalled already 3 times already.
[07:03] <shreevatsa> Paradoxx: but I have Flash working too
[07:03] <shadox> tonyyarusso, eurhm :s
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Papageno: when you finish reconfiguring,  restart X
[07:03] <Papageno> thoreaputic: Okay. Thanks.
[07:03] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: how did you get 1.5? been waiting for it in universe for the longest while
[07:04] <Paradoxx> shreevatsa: i have it working, its just that, its slow and well, poo
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Where the packages are hosted, and can be acquired from with apt.
[07:04] <shreevatsa> Paradoxx: Nah, mainly because most of the annoying ads are in Flash. I don't have anything against Flash itself (except its use where plain text would do just as well)
[07:04] <Crell42> Questin.  Will the i386 version of Ubuntu-server work properly on a 64-bit system (Intel Xeon)?  Or would it cause odd install errors?
[07:04] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: you installed it yourslef?>
[07:04] <shreevatsa> Paradoxx: What does "slow" mean? Takes a long time to load? Or plays at reduced speed?
[07:04] <dpupp> tukuyomi, that would happen to be close to tsukuyomi.. moonphase right?
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx: Direct from getfirefox.com; it won't show up in universe - backports if anything, otherwise for an Ubuntu build you have to wait for Dapper.
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx, yeah, I did the install.
[07:05] <shadox> tonyyarusso, oowh :), everything is working till yet, accept realplayer, it gives an libc6 version error
[07:05] <Paradoxx> shreevatsa: causes hang ups in FF
[07:05] <tukuyomi> dpupp,  yes :), actually, i took this pseudo from a video-game ;)
[07:05] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: i hear that aswell. Why they waiting till daper to release it?
[07:05] <Llewxam> o.0 nobody then?
[07:05] <Aton> hello
[07:06] <Estel> Hello:)
[07:06] <Linuturk> nvm
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> shadox: Haven't tried using RealPlayer yet.  Have you tried using apt to upgrade libc6 (and do you know how?)?
[07:06] <Papageno> thoreauputic: I am prompted for the card bus ID of my video card. The default value is PCI:1:0:0, but it is in the AGP slot. Is it correct anyhow? What should it be?
[07:06] <shadox> tonyyarusso, no dunno :$
[07:06] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: i'm probably gonna try out daper beginning of jan...
[07:06] <occy> !mp3
[07:06] <dpupp> tukuyomi,  what game? i remember seeing an anime series called tsukuyomi.... hazuki was soooo cute! ;) eek! im going off topic again.
[07:06] <Llewxam> p5.. usb glove... works as a mouse for games and other stuff.... got the drivers but dunno how to get them running.... <.< >.> anybody?
[07:06] <eobanb> Papageno, that's probably correct anyway
[07:07] <occy> ubotflu, mp3?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Papageno: I usually accept the default
[07:07] <shadox> tonyyarusso, do you mean sudo apt-get update?
[07:07] <Paradoxx> anyone know why the team is waiting till daper to release FF1.5 in universe?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Papageno: you can always re-run the command if there is a problem
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx: Ubuntu's policy is to release each stable version with what's available at the time, and focus on including new things after that into the next release.  Other developers are then free to make build for the previous stable during that period if they wish, hence backports.
[07:07] <robert__> can anyne help me abutthisproblem: kmess:
[07:07] <robert__>  Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>=4:3.4.2) but it is not installable
[07:07] <robert__>  Depends: libqt3-mt (>=3:3.3.4) but it is not installable
[07:08] <Paradoxx>  i c
[07:08] <Estel> When's the eta on Backports 1.5 anyway?
[07:08] <fyodor> pls someone...how do i add multiverse in source.list?
[07:08] <shreevatsa> Paradoxx: But take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion if you want it real bad
[07:08] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: yea, so when we gettin it on backports?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> fyodor: just add the word "multiverse" at the end of your universe lines
[07:09] <tukuyomi> dpupp, check lspci but i'm not sure about interpreting it...
[07:09] <robert__> shreevatsa: can you help me about thisproblem kmess:
[07:09] <robert__>  Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>=4:3.4.2) but it is not installable
[07:09] <robert__>  Depends: libqt3-mt (>=3:3.3.4) but it is not installable
[07:09] <shadox> fyodor, sudo gedit /ect/apt/sources.list   add multiverse :)
[07:09] <thoreauputic> robert__: please don't repeat
[07:09] <dpupp> tukuyomi, me either :(
[07:09] <tukuyomi> dpupp, the video game is Chrono Cross, on the Playstation system
[07:09] <robert__> sry thoreauputic
[07:09] <dpupp> ah ! yomi. :)
[07:10] <shadox> can someone tell me how to update my libc6? else i cant' install realplayer :(
[07:10] <scott_> im having problems networking my printer over the samba netwrok. can anybody please help me out?
[07:10] <nlfsoftware> hello again
[07:10] <thoreauputic> robert__:  are you sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is correct?
[07:11] <shadox> thoreauputic yup, but don't forget "sudo" in front of it :)
[07:11] <thoreauputic> shadox: updateing libc6 is not advisable, since *everything* depends on it
[07:11] <nlfsoftware> I have a partition that is giving me this mesage:
[07:11] <nlfsoftware> Could not mount device.
[07:11] <nlfsoftware> The reported error was:
[07:11] <nlfsoftware> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb3,
[07:11] <nlfsoftware> missing codepage or other error
[07:11] <tukuyomi> dpupp, , here is what i found in my xorg.conf: 	BusID		"PCI:2:0:0"
[07:11] <nlfsoftware> there is any way to acess it?'
[07:11] <tukuyomi> dpupp, and this is the outpput from lspci: 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]  (rev 01)
[07:12] <tukuyomi> dpupp, look at then 02.00.0
[07:12] <shadox> thoreauputic, but i need realplayer, i installed the win32 codec but now i need a player who play's mp3
[07:12] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: kk, thx much
[07:12] <Anth0ny> Isn't there a bot in here, who can tell me how to install jre-support in FireFox on Ubuntu?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> shadox: how are you installing realplayer? have you read  wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?
[07:13] <fyodor> shadox, already added but still i dont get "kmplayer" package
[07:13] <Paradoxx> !tell Anth0ny about java
[07:13] <thoreauputic> fyodor: kmplayer is not in the repos
[07:13] <Linuturk> !tell Linuturk about dual-display
[07:13] <Linuturk> :(
[07:13] <thoreauputic> the bot has the flu, apparently ;)
[07:13] <greenpenguin13> grr i installed kubuntu-desktop and now uspash says kubuntu on it :-p
[07:13] <fyodor> thoreauputic, im looking for media player...the default one wont come out with sound
[07:13] <fyodor> that is the problem
[07:14] <Paradoxx> !tell Paradoxx about java
[07:14] <spanglesontoast> the repos still down?
[07:14] <Paradoxx> tell Paradoxx about java!
[07:14] <Paradoxx> !java
[07:14] <Paradoxx> hmm, bots out?
[07:14] <shadox> thoreauputic i'm followings wiki intstructions atm but whatever i try to install, it allways sais "libc6 version is not up to date"
[07:15] <james_> what do you wanna know about java Paradox?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Sorry about that, I'm having server issues.
[07:15] <sword> http://myspacidetrain.ytmnd.com/
[07:15] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: have you experienced any problems installing FF that way?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Did I miss any messages to me after "robert__  Depends: libqt3-mt (>=3:3.3.4) but it is not installable"?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> shadox: do you have weird 3rd part repos in your sources?
[07:15] <Paradoxx> james_: nuttin, was trying to tell some1 else about it,
[07:15] <spanglesontoast> yea tony
[07:15] <spanglesontoast> still got odd issues
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx: It took me a bit to figure out plugins.
[07:16] <thoreauputic> shadox: I can tell you definitely that you *don't* want to mess with libc6
[07:16] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: how much faster than default FF is it? cause that is why i would b upgrading
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> spanglesontoast: What were they?
[07:16] <james_> oh okay...I know a fair bit in that arena...just had a chilling weeks worth of experience :P
[07:16] <chull_> how can i register a nick on freenode?
[07:16] <Linuturk> '/msg nickserv register <password>
[07:17] <Linuturk> i think
[07:17] <chull_> ty Linuturk :)
[07:17] <spanglesontoast> erm missing depencieces
[07:17] <spanglesontoast> etc
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> my apache server doesnt seem to want to run .php files :/
[07:17] <shadox> thoreauputic, k can B, but that does mean i cannot play any mp3's, i can not install a lot of packages :s how do i need so fix it then? :$
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx: When I was using it at school (DSL) it was fabulous.  I can't quantify it, but it was a noticable difference.  Now I'm at home for break on dialup, so it's not the limiting factor anymore.
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> it just passes me the actual script
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> spanglesontoast, right.  Okay, fill me in again and we'll see if I can help.
[07:18] <james_> greenpenguin13: what are you using the apache server for? development ??
[07:18] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: what about loading times etc, in terms of actualy app, is it any different?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> shadox: it doesn't mean that at all - use standard repos and follow the advice on the RestrictedFormats wiki
[07:18] <greenpenguin13> james_: yep
[07:18] <mike_> hello
[07:18] <spanglesontoast> erm
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Linuturk: You've got to be kidding.  I went and found some web site and walked through a registration form.  Who knew it could be so easy?
[07:18] <shadox> thoreauputic, i'm doing, but it just allways sais "libc6 ....."
[07:19] <viktor> how do i change my nick in kopete ??
[07:19] <greenpenguin13> the .phps are executable and ive got mod_php
[07:19] <shadox> thoreauputic :(
[07:19] <Linuturk> tonyyarusso, what?
[07:19] <james_> then try using xampp from www.apachefriends.org it installs with all you will ever need including apache
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> Paradoxx: Yeah, I'd say it is different.
[07:19] <fyodor> shadox, what player do u use for movie ?
[07:19] <mike_> is there  anyone  who can help  me  to install  a  printerdriver ?
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> Linuturk: Registering a nick.
[07:19] <trappist> greenpenguin13: they shouldn't be executable unless you're running them as cgi scripts
[07:19] <Linuturk> tonyyarusso, o
[07:19] <james_> and you don't have to configure it for php or mysql
[07:19] <thoreauputic> shadox: the only reason I can think of is that you somehow mixed your sources and stuffed up libc6
[07:19] <shadox> fyodor, none, just a fresh format
[07:19] <Linuturk> how do you apply permissions to a folder, and all the subfolders and files?
[07:20] <Paradoxx> tonyyarusso: kk, thx much
[07:20] <Linuturk> in gnome
[07:20] <thoreauputic> shadox: where did you get your sources list?
[07:20] <greenpenguin13> it doesnt make a difference anyway :/
[07:20] <james_> Linuturk: chown -R
[07:20] <james_> -R is recursive
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know if the repo problem has been fixed yet?
[07:20] <Linuturk> james_, in terminal?
[07:20] <fyodor> shadox, i guess u dont watch movie rite ?
[07:20] <james_> yes in terminal
[07:20] <PapaWolf> msg nickserv identify dummypass
[07:20] <james_> so you would do this...
[07:21] <shadox> thoreauputic, there was a pastebin link in a forum in which was said that following sources were good, so i copy paste them
[07:21] <edo-> hi all, help to install  SPC200NC philips webcam
[07:21] <james_> sudo chown -R whoever:whatevergroup /whatever/dirs
[07:21] <spanglesontoast> gotta scoot for dinner
[07:21] <james_> then permissions of course :P
[07:21] <spanglesontoast> tell ya a about it later...
[07:21] <thoreauputic> shadox: that's your problem then
[07:21] <shadox> fyodor, oow h*ll i would like to watch movies on ubuntu :D
[07:21] <thoreauputic> shadox: use standard ubuntu sources
[07:22] <james_> you can watch movies on ubuntu
[07:22] <Linuturk> james_, it just feels easier to go through the folders one by one :(
[07:22] <fyodor> shadox, i cant hear the sound using those media player
[07:22] <shadox> thoreauputic, hmm good i overwrite it without taking backup
[07:22] <mike_> Hello, i'm  new  at  ubuntu and  i have a  problem with my  lexmark z55 printer , someone  knows  how  to get ik worked ??
[07:22] <james_> is fun config
[07:22] <Mike__> hello, can someone give me a hand with ndiswrapper?
[07:22] <webwolf_27> shadox,  all you need is mplayer
[07:22] <shadox> thoreauputic, can't you fix me your sources?:$
[07:22] <james_> install xine, get mplayer and the w32codecs and you should be fine
[07:22] <fyodor> webwolf_27, is it gui ?
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> How can I figure out the actual path to the .exe to be downloaded from the link http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=27561&location=122&nothanks=yes&sub=marine ?
[07:23] <shadox> webwolf_27 help to install it would be welcom, cuz i'm 2 day's on ubuntu and allready needed a format :$:s
[07:23] <james_> LinuxTurk: you can can do this as well...
[07:23] <webwolf_27> fyodor, it can be. with mplayer-gui or something similar
[07:23] <webwolf_27> shadox, complete linux newbie??
[07:23] <Mike__> hello, can anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[07:24] <james_> sudo nautilus & <---this will open up nautilus with root permissions then you can right mouse click on folders and change permissions in there...even easier
[07:24] <thoreauputic> shadox: dcc ed just now
[07:24] <webwolf_27> shadox, anyway sudo apt-get install mplayer should do it
[07:24] <Linuturk> robotgeek_away, away? :(
[07:24] <fyodor> webwolf_27, the problem is..i cant hear the sound??where do i config the sound ??
[07:25] <webwolf_27> fyodor, on  mplayer gui you should see something that looks like a wrench
[07:25] <PapaWolf> we downloaded a movie viewer, with apt-get, it's supposed to run in firefox, but it's not seeing it. Does anyone know firefox on linux (ubuntu) ?
[07:25] <dpupp> can this be used as a busID? 01:0a.0
[07:25] <shadox> thoreauputic thnQ very much!!  (but where can i found these file now?) :$
[07:25] <james_> shadox: go to the mplayer website..get the w32codecs and follow the instructs
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> Never mind.  Yay for output in wget!
[07:25] <shadox> webwof_27 thnx
[07:25] <shadox> james_ already got the codecs :)
[07:25] <[kf] naddar> anyone can send me the cdcover of ubuntu 5 please
[07:25] <webwolf_27> shadox, np
[07:25] <thoreauputic> shadox: just put that in /etc/apt/sources.list  then do  sudo apt-get update
[07:25] <dpupp> tukuyomi, i get 0000:01:0a.0  (im assuming 01:0a.0  would be the busID ?
[07:26] <Linuturk> how do you link nicks? i keep getting that they have to be registered first
[07:26] <tukuyomi> yes, so 10 is good... (0A Hexa)
[07:26] <james_> coolies then all you need is xine and mplayer ...and hey get the mozilla-plugins too they are cool
[07:26] <shadox> uhu, but the file you send me, where can i find it in my files :$
[07:26] <thoreauputic> shadox: what IRC client are you using?
[07:26] <shadox> x-chat
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Uh, why can't I kill wget with Ctrl-C?  It keeps restarting the dowload.
[07:26] <dpupp> tukuyomi, so what i have is ok?
[07:26] <shadox> thoreauputic x-chat
[07:26] <tukuyomi>  dpupp yes, so 10 is good... (0A Hexa)
[07:26] <thoreauputic> shadox: look in ~/.xchat2
[07:26] <Reza> excuse me
[07:26] <Mike__> hello, can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[07:26] <Reza> how i can connect me to a hispano channel?
[07:26] <shadox> thoreauputic, k brb
[07:27] <Linuturk> '/msg nickserv link Linuturk_work <password> returns The nickname [Linuturk_work]  is not registered
[07:27] <tukuyomi> dpupp,  I can't help you more, really sorry :(
[07:27] <Linuturk> i have to register a nick before I can link it?
[07:27] <james_> Mike_ : I had probs with ndiswrapper so long ago I forget my friend exactly what I did...but I did find it on google
[07:27] <sambagirl> i thought xine was included in ubuntu?
[07:27] <dpupp> ok... thats ok. thanks. im sure some time i will figure it out. Hopefully before the return expires on the card. :)
[07:27] <thoreauputic> Linuturk: yes
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> I was able to stop wget with kill, but why didn't Ctrl-C work?  Anyone had this issue with wget before?
[07:28] <Madeye> anyone using ubuntu with Toshiba laptop ?
[07:28] <sambagirl> i want to try with toshiba 2032 sp pocket pc telefon maybe.
[07:28] <shadox> thoreauputic, eurhm, can't find it :s
[07:29] <d03boy> what the hell do you do when sudo stops working?
[07:29] <Reza> excuse me, how i can connect me to the irc-hispano???
[07:29] <greenpenguin13> yes yes yes... :) reinstalled
[07:29] <hardbop200> tonyyarusso:  try sudo top and find the PID and kill it.  Might be an easier way, but I would try that.
[07:29] <thoreauputic> shadox: look in Settings - File Transfers and see where dcc is downloaded by default
[07:29] <james_> d03boy: what error do you get?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> shadox: usually it's somewhere in ~/.xchat2
[07:30] <occy> how can I fix it so that gdm is now default insteadd of kdm?
[07:30] <dpupp> is there a drawback to using xinerama?
[07:30] <tukuyomi> occy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:30] <nlfsoftware> hello again everybody
[07:30] <occy> tukuyomi: thank you very much
[07:30] <tukuyomi> ;)
[07:30] <_jason> hey guys, I was trying to help nlfsoftware in the portuguese channel.  He is getting an error 24 in grub, you guys seen this before?  It always mounted perfectly fine until today.
[07:31] <d03boy> james_, i dont know, my friend has the problem. I'll let him deal with it
[07:31] <Lexmark> hello
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> hardbop200, I was able to do that, now I'm wondering what the deal was.
[07:31] <nlfsoftware> I trying to access my ubuntu "/" partition
[07:31] <Lexmark> please , who can help me  with installing a  lexmark z55  printer
[07:31] <shadox> thoreauputic, hmm should be on my desktop, but can't C it :s
[07:31] <nlfsoftware> rigth now I using knoopix ttying to mount the partition and the error I get is this: Could not mount device.
[07:31] <nlfsoftware> The reported error was:
[07:31] <nlfsoftware> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb3,
[07:31] <nlfsoftware> missing codepage or other error
[07:32] <james_> he probably flunked his sudo permissions...he will need to reboot into restore mode and reenter his username in the sudoers list
[07:32] <thoreauputic> shadox:  cd ~/Desktop && ls -al
[07:32] <nlfsoftware> I also try a windows program to access ext partitions and give an error and is no possible to access the data...
[07:32] <james_> that is a known issue and can be found easily on google
[07:32] <nlfsoftware> any one can tell me how to access that partion only to backup my work please?
[07:33] <shadox> thoreauputic, got it, one moment, replacing my sources by yours, brb
[07:33] <Lexmark>  please , who can help me  with installing a  lexmark z55  printer
[07:33] <jenda> Lexmark: check linuxprinting.org
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> _jason: He was here before.  I'm guessing the fs type is misidentified, and should be changed with fdisk, given the similarity to the problem I had booting a Fat32 partition that I later found out had been IDd as Compaq diagnostics.
[07:33] <sambagirl> apt-get dist-upgrade does the command also update all my media things?
[07:34] <_jason> tonyyarusso, mine stepping him through it, I don't really know how to do that
[07:34] <shadox> thoreauputic, done thnx
[07:35] <thoreauputic> shadox:  run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[07:35] <PapaWolf> I need to create a symbolic link to my movie player in the plugins dir in the application folder ... can somebody help, ,i'm lost!!
[07:35] <thoreauputic> shadox: in case there are things that need fixing
[07:36] <james_> PapaWolf: you would ln -s /the/dir/where/the/file/u/link/2/is in the folder you want the link in
[07:36] <shadox> thoreauputic, what does the sudo apt-get -f install do?
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Can you tell me what fs type fdisk is reporting it as and what it should be?
[07:36] <Lexmark> tnx  jenda  , will have a  look there
[07:36] <thoreauputic> shadox: it tries to fix anything that's out of whack in your install
[07:36] <nlfsoftware> tonnyarusso, just a moment pelase
[07:36] <jenda> Lexmark; np... but I'm not much good beyond that...
[07:37] <shadox> thoreauputic, :s after update i get a lot of errors :s
[07:37] <Lexmark> me  neither ,  i'm new  on ubuntu
[07:37] <thoreauputic> shadox: pastebin the errors
[07:37] <thoreauputic> shadox: so we can see them
[07:37] <shadox> thoreauputic, it's dutch, hope you understand a bit :)
[07:37] <jaypee_> anyone have success building tango icon theme?
[07:37] <nlfsoftware> tonnyarusso, /dev/hdb3            5113        7297    17551012+  83  Linux
[07:37] <thoreauputic> shadox: are you running breezy?
[07:38] <nlfsoftware> I guess that linux means ext3
[07:38] <shadox> thoreauputic, no guess it's still hoary
[07:38] <thoreauputic> shadox: :/
[07:38] <james_> jaypee_ I tried that once...was to involved with too much kde tripe and dependencies I gave up
[07:38] <thoreauputic> shadox: then my sources.list is not for you
[07:38] <shadox> thoreauputic :(
[07:39] <jaypee_> james_:yeah i'm having hard time to build it
[07:39] <thoreauputic> shadox: you will need to change all occurrences of "breezy" with "hoary"
[07:39] <shadox> thoreauputic, -f install is running, mayB that can fix some errors
[07:39] <thoreauputic> shadox: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:39] <PapaWolf> james_, here's where i got to on the download: Unpacking mozilla-plugin-vlc (from .../mozilla-plugin-vlc_0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...
[07:39] <PapaWolf> Setting up mozilla-plugin-vlc (0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3)here's where i got to on the download: Unpacking mozilla-plugin-vlc (from .../mozilla-plugin-vlc_0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...
[07:39] <PapaWolf> Setting up mozilla-plugin-vlc (0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3)
[07:39] <thoreauputic> shadox: aaargh
[07:39] <shadox> thoreauputic, all?
[07:39] <james_> is a nice looking theme though jaypee_ so if you can get it installed..you may wanna post that one
[07:39] <thoreauputic> shadox: NO - you need hoary sources
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, and it should be?
[07:39] <PapaWolf> sorry... my mouse did not work.. arrgh
[07:39] <nlfsoftware> ext3
[07:39] <thoreauputic> shadox: *sigh* I assumed you were running breezy
[07:40] <dpupp> is the xorg.conf of 5.04 the same as 5.10 ?
[07:40] <jaypee_> james_: i will try and hopefully be successful, i will let community know once i do it
[07:40] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, should be EXT3
[07:40] <james_> thanks jaypee_ :)
[07:40] <Crackez> has anyone else got prismstumbler to work?
[07:40] <shadox> thoreauputic, i wish that to, but my lappy only read this version, the newer ones it just won't get installed :s :'(
[07:40] <jaypee_> james_: =)
[07:40] <shadox> thoreauputic, 5.04
[07:40] <djk_> is it possible to print pdfs from cli, printing 2 or 4 pages on one sheet? i know it's possible with ps..
[07:41] <thoreauputic> shadox: apt-get -f install is going to try to upgrade everything from breezy sources
[07:41] <thoreauputic> shadox: which will probably break everything instead of fixing it
[07:41] <james_> djk_: I have done it by using pdf2ps converter then printing that
[07:41] <shadox> thoreauputic, :'( another format possible?
[07:42] <djk_> james_: hence why i said that i know it's possible with ps.. but what about pdf..
[07:42] <thoreauputic> shadox: I just wish you had mentioned you were running hoary :(
[07:42] <shadox> thoreauputic, mayB that's why my ubuntu crashed a few houres a go
[07:43] <shadox> thoreauputic, i'll download the newer version, format this on, and c you back within half an hour? :)
[07:43] <Linuturk_work> dapper is supposed to release in April, right? how stable is the current rc?
[07:43] <thoreauputic> shadox: soundds like everything is broken
[07:43] <james_> i do not know of any solution to that djk_ other than the one I just mention...not to say that there isn't one tho :P
[07:43] <thoreauputic> shadox: I won't be here - someone else will help I'm sure
[07:43] <sethk> djk_, at a minimum you can convert the pdf to ps inline and pass it to the ps printer.  I think, though, that you can do that directly with pdf
[07:43] <shadox> thoreauputic, uhu wrong sources, i needed 451 updates :s
[07:44] <Linuturk_work> shadox, why don't you just backup your data, and install 5.10 fresh?
[07:44] <thoreauputic> shadox: yes, I gave you breezy sources, not hoary
[07:44] <shadox> thoreauputic, then x-server crashed
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, I run the command dmesg | tail and here is the report :IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs error (device hdb3): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 1701672300)!
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs error (device hdb3): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 1701672300)!
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs error (device hdb3): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 1701672300)!
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs error (device hdb3): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group (block 1701672300)!
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> EXT3-fs: group descriptors corrupted !
[07:44] <trappist> don't paste here.
[07:44] <nlfsoftware> I hope this can help
[07:44] <shadox> thoreauputic, no prob, you only tried to help :) don't worry i'am used to format :D (windows :@) :)
[07:45] <Linuturk_work> !tell nlfsoftware about pastebin
[07:45] <nlfsoftware> sorry...:(
[07:45] <thoreauputic> shadox: OK - sorry about the confusion
[07:45] <shadox> thoreauputic, thnx, learned a lot :D  C you arround :)
[07:45] <nlfsoftware> I woldn't do it agan...:(
[07:45] <Xent> hey guys & girls
[07:45] <shadox> thoreauputic, np :) (k)
[07:45] <james_> hey Xent :)
[07:46] <james_> nlfsoftware: ouch
[07:46] <thoreauputic> nlfsoftware: if you do, you'll be out of here so fast it'll make your head swim :)
[07:46] <Xent> im a gentoo user, thinking of installing ubuntu just a couple of really quick questions if thats ok?
[07:47] <james_> sure Xent
[07:47] <Linuturk_work> shoot
[07:47] <Dhat> Hi, does somebody have any experience with ATI x700 -> Ubuntu ? Nothing works, only with vesa driver.
[07:47] <Xent> First im used to kde, if i dont like gnome is it possible to install kde without a complete reinstall?
[07:47] <james_> Xent: I can tell you this much ubuntu is way easier to install than gentoo...ooh boy do I know it
[07:48] <dallows> >>> How can I install php ?? Apache2 I have installed but PHP not <<<
[07:48] <Xent> lol, james
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Xenguy:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <yannux> to do a ubuntu  ldap/apache/jabber/ftp servern, it's better to use source or package ?
[07:48] <Linuturk_work> Xent, actually, if you install kubuntu, you'll automatically have KDE as default, if i'm not mistaken
[07:48] <yannux> an ubuntu*
[07:48] <dallows> can anyone help me ?
[07:48] <dinosaur_> somebody live in San Francisco?
[07:48] <HappyFool> yannux: i would say binary packages are usually best
[07:48] <james_> Xent: I know not of kde..I love gnome..and the CLI even better...I think Kubuntu installs that does it not anyone?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> dinosaur_: several million, at last count ;)
[07:49] <yannux> HappyFool: but not most recent ? :s
[07:49] <oskude> Xent: do you need to reinstall in gentoo if you want kde over gnome ? O.o
[07:49] <HappyFool> james_: yip. kubuntu will give you kde
[07:49] <Linuturk_work> personally, kde makes me yak
[07:49] <james_> thank you HappyFool there ya go Xent
[07:49] <Xent> no, you simply emerge -C gnome, emerge -Dav kde
[07:49] <HappyFool> yannux: if you need specific features not present in the ubuntu packages, you will need to get the source. You can make you own packages
[07:50] <james_> ya kde is kinda N@stY
[07:50] <dallows> How can I install PHP ?? I have installed Apache2 but PHP doesnt runs. HELP ME ;-) :-)
[07:50] <james_> but some rike it a rot :P
[07:50] <yannux> HappyFool: hum ok i's easy to make ubuntu package form source ?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Xent: Apparently either the Kubuntu install or install kubuntu-desktop after a normal one with Gnome will do the trick (so I was told earlier).
[07:50] <oskude> Xent: in ubuntu  that would be "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (dunno about gnome remove)
[07:50] <yannux> and how know of specific feature are not in the package ?
[07:50] <HappyFool> yannux: i would go looking for a ubuntu or debian source package
[07:50] <Xent> james, i have heard of kubuntu but would be interested to try out ubuntu and would rather not reinstall if i change my mind?
[07:50] <james_> dallows: do it the easy way my friend..install xampp you get it all preconfiggied and ready to go without the headaches
[07:51] <HappyFool> yannux: if you don't know, try the ubuntu packages first
[07:51] <JDahl> dallows, did you install libapache2-mod-php4?
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> oskude and Xent: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop I suppose?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Xent: thoreauputic Xenguy:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:51] <oskude> Xent: kubuntu is just a package in ubuntu
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> For Gnome remove.
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: tab complet error, sorry
[07:51] <yannux> HappyFool: ooki :)*
[07:51] <dallows> JDahl: no Im not.. Now Im trying install php5 > apt-get install php5
[07:51] <eruin> removing ubuntu-deskop won't do anything
[07:51] <eruin> ;)
[07:51] <JDahl> dallows, did you install libapache2-mod-php5?
[07:51] <oskude> Xent: i thought also first that kubuntu would be like different "distro" of ubuntu
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, I'm Googling your error.
[07:52] <dallows> JDahl: no Im not.. u think php4 is better or php5 ?
[07:52] <james_> I am not sure Xent..I work in the CLI basement most of the time
[07:52] <HappyFool> there used to be a LAMP page on the wiki for help installing apache/mysql/php
[07:52] <JDahl> dallows, I have no idea, but you need one the packages I suggested
[07:52] <oskude> Xent: to be excact "kubuntu-desktop" is a metapackage containing the common things of kde
[07:53] <james_> dallows: www.apachefriends.org <--mysql php and apache all in one nice easy to use developers package
[07:53] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, thabks I loking too
[07:53] <dallows> james_: I know now how to install it.. but I dont know what is better.. php4 or php5 ?
[07:53] <JDahl> dallows, if you install the package I suggested, you should be ready to go (as long as you keep php scripts in /var/www)
[07:54] <james_> it depends dallows what you are going to be using it for
[07:54] <oskude> dallows: better is relative :) but i would stick to php4 and if you find a "feature" of php5 that you really need, upgrade...
[07:55] <dallows> ok
[07:55] <james_> I would go with what oskude said dallows :)
[07:55] <dallows> thx james, oskude, JDahl ;-)
[07:55] <james_> np dallows :)
[07:55] <oskude> dallows: im using php5 cause of this http://de3.php.net/manual/en/function.stream-get-line.php
[07:55] <juice_> does anyone remember what was the name of the package that helps building other packages from the source?
[07:56] <james_> alien juice_
[07:56] <thoreauputic> juice_:  build-essential
[07:56] <oskude> juice_: checkinstall ?
[07:56] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:56] <juice_> build-essential that is, thank you
[07:56] <pygrammer> hey
[07:56] <pygrammer> for some reason, the time zone in applications is wrong
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Can you run fsck on it?  It might be available by getting to a shell with grub at boot.
[07:56] <juice_> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:56] <thoreauputic> juice_: checkinstall is a good thing too
[07:56] <pygrammer> but it's right on the lower-right-hand clock
[07:56] <juice_> oh
[07:56] <thoreauputic> juice_: np :)
[07:56] <juice_> then thank you all :)
[07:56] <JDahl> we should have irc trivia with questions like that
[07:56] <pygrammer> any way i can fix that?
[07:57] <pygrammer> i.e. even GMAIL shows the wrong time zone
[07:57] <pygrammer> so obviously it's set wrong
[07:57] <dallows> How I know if I have on my system libpcre ?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> juice_: checkinstall lets you make a deb of your compiled program
[07:57] <pygrammer> because gmail uses JavaScript
[07:57] <james_> dallows I use slocate or whereis
[07:58] <juice_> thoreauputic: oh! didnt know that. maybe you know why apt-get build-dep sometimes just shows that some package cannot be build and doesnt show which packages i need to download?
[07:58] <spanglesontoast> ok back
[07:58] <dallows> james_: Im going to compile verlihub..
[07:58] <dallows> james_: and I think it need libpcre
[07:58] <Nelo> Hello, I would like to use mplayer to listes streams from shoutcast.com, the default app  for firefox is gmplayer and nothing happens when trying to liste. However, If I open a stream from the mplayer it works... How do i fix this?
[07:58] <scott_> !tell scott_ about samba
[07:58] <thoreauputic> juice_: apt-get build-dep works for packages that are in the repos
[07:58] <nlfsoftware> tonnyarusso, sorry I a newbie, what is fsck? and how I doit?
[07:59] <james_> dallows: don't you just love the dependency hell? :P
[07:59] <juice_> thoreauputic: apt-get buil-dep php4 or php5 doesnt work for me...
[07:59] <spanglesontoast> I love to fsck your mom heh
[07:59] <thoreauputic> juice_: apt-cache search php4 php5
[07:59] <spanglesontoast> anyone know if the repos are still messed up
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, a file system checker basically.  Running it consists of fsck <device> in a shell, the tricky part being getting a shell if you can't boot.
[07:59] <juice_> thoreauputic: yes, but i had problems in writing script that will strip all ( ) " - and such and just print out plain packages name...
[08:00] <dallows> yea
[08:00] <dallows> it runs
[08:00] <dallows> PHP5, apache2, MySql runs
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> spanglesontoast, Checking mine now.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> juice_: can't really help with that - and I have to go in a minute anyway :)
[08:00] <dallows> BIG THX
[08:00] <scott_> im having problems networking my printer over the samba netwrok. can anybody please help me out?
[08:00] <juice_> thoreauputic: ok :) thanks
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, for that part, ask or Google getting to a shell from Grub.
[08:00] <james_> very good dallows :)
[08:01] <Nelo> how to stream from from shoutcast to mplayer?
[08:01] <trappist> Nelo: mplayer http://address.of.shoutcast/server
[08:01] <nlfsoftware> tonnyarusso, ok I will read about that, thanks
[08:02] <existance> how do i configure apache2?
[08:02] <trappist> or better, mplayer -nocache address...
[08:02] <t4> how big should i create a root fs w/o {var|usr|tmp} ? 250m was full after 3 days :|
[08:02] <Richo63> Hi, can anyone tell me what the admin password is for the vmware image?
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> spanglesontoast, I'm down to only three giving errors, compared to about four times that many earlier.
[08:02] <Nelo> trappist if i click on a shoutcast station mplayer opens but does not play the stream...
[08:03] <pygrammer> can _anyone_ explain my timezone issue?
[08:03] <existance> how do i configure apache2?
[08:03] <pygrammer> i set it in the gui (kubuntu), but all the apps have it wrogn
[08:03] <pygrammer> *wrong
[08:03] <oskude> Nelo: check in the firefox preferences what player is used for mp3 playlist files, or so...
[08:03] <pygrammer> they're all off by 5 hours
[08:03] <blanky> join #kubuntu
[08:03] <Nelo> oskudethanks..
[08:03] <blanky> lol pygrammer, nice name
[08:03] <pygrammer> :D
[08:04] <benplaut> i'm trying to compile Vazaar (and i do have all the correct dev packages installed!), and the configure script keeps finking out:
[08:04] <benplaut> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (libpanelapplet-2.0 libgnome-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0 libglade-2.0 libxml-2.0 gconf-2.0 glib-2.0 mozilla-gtkmozembed pango gtksourceview-1.0 gnet-2.0) were not met.
[08:04] <juice_> is there any automatic way to remove all extra commans and other characters like ( ) - = > and such from apt-cache showsrc package-name output so i can just copy it to apt-get install input? ( but not also not to break any part of the package name )
[08:04] <Richo63> Hi, can anyone tell me what the admin password is for the vmware image?
[08:04] <pygrammer> blanky: ohhhhhh, weird
[08:04] <blanky> i started learning python yesterday lol, my second program ever was a TTS program (text to speech), type something in and it says it, sweet
[08:04] <pygrammer> apparently just my user-level timezone in kubuntu is set right ... but it even shows the wrong one (5 hours off) in the KDE Control module
[08:04] <existance> Could someone tell me how to compile apache2? It errors on startup "cannot bind.. yada yada"
[08:04] <existance> err configure
[08:05] <pygrammer> blanky: heh, with festival?
[08:05] <oskude> existance: paste your output to pastebin so we can have a look...
[08:05] <Xent> thanks guys, have to dash, will hopefully talk to you all again soon! :)
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> pygrammer: hardware vs software clock issue?  (Not sure.)
[08:06] <james_> existance: what are you using apache for development?
[08:06] <blanky> pygrammer, festival? I used PyTTS
[08:06] <existance> Command + error is at   http://pastebin.com/470510
[08:06] <Richo63> Hi,Sorry to butt in. can anyone tell me what the admin password is for the vmware image?
[08:06] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[08:06] <pygrammer> tonyyarusso: nope, apparently i had simply set the _display_ time, not the system time
[08:07] <pygrammer> tonyyarusso: so i set the system time -- probably gotta restart firefox/other apps to refresh it
[08:07] <existance> james_, more orless, i'm trying to get PHP up on it so I can practice some exercises
[08:07] <pygrammer> blanky: oh, ok
[08:07] <njohnson> Is there a way within Ubuntu to run the daily "Cnn-Student News" video stream found at at this URL: http://www.cnn.com/EDUCATION/  It is optimized for Windows Media Player 9.
[08:07] <james_> save yourself some hair existance and just install xampp from www.apachefriends.org
[08:07] <blanky> I'm more of a C/C++ programmer hah
[08:07] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, I run the command: fsck /dev/hdb on knoppix terminal and I get the error msg:The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem.
[08:07] <pygrammer> blanky: ack
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> pygrammer, Ah.
[08:07] <blanky> lol dont like those?
[08:07] <pygrammer> blanky: how could anyone like 'em when one has used Python?
[08:07] <pygrammer> :)
[08:07] <oskude> existance: hmm, dunno. never compiled apache2 :) (seems it doesnt have an ip address...)
[08:08] <existance> james_ i might if i can't figure this out
[08:08] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, also :The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem.
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Does it then give any suggestions for fixing it?
[08:08] <blanky> pygrammer, yeah python is nice, but I like C/C++ for redistributing
[08:08] <nlfsoftware> I
[08:08] <james_> i like'em all blanky they all server a purpose..and to know'em all just makes ya that much more useful ;)
[08:08] <existance> oskude, yea.. that's why I wanted to configure it :/ don't know how though
[08:08] <blanky> see, james_ is right
[08:08] <oskude> existance: did the compile porcess go without errors ?
[08:08] <skwid_> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[08:08] <skwid_> hhelp :S
[08:08] <james_> *serve ...too much coffee yikes! :P
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Hmm, plus we want ext3, not ext2.  I wonder if that matters here?
[08:08] <pygrammer> blanky: well, they all have a purpose
[08:08] <pygrammer> blanky: but, coding-wise, i much prefer to code in Python
[08:09] <blanky> pygrammer, yeah what's what i meant
[08:09] <existance> oskude, i have never compiled it, I think i either installed it through synaptic as a dependency or it came with ubuntu.
[08:09] <james_> besides if you know C you can just about jump into any seat and be a pygrammer or javagrammer or whatevergrammer
[08:09] <existance> oskude, but doesn't the fact that I can run the commands mean that it's compiled?
[08:09] <oskude> existance: aaah ok, then. you start it with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" and
[08:09] <nlfsoftware> tonyyarusso, I dont know if that matthers but what do you say?  try it?
[08:09] <pygrammer> james_: haha
[08:09] <oskude> existance: stop it with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop"
[08:10] <pygrammer> i prefer "pygrammer" :)
[08:10] <existance> oskude, ill try it
[08:10] <james_> oh no pun intended without some humor at least pygrammer ;P```
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, Try whatever you can I guess.
[08:10] <Richo63> Hi,Sorry to butt in. can anyone tell me what the admin password is for the vmware image?
[08:10] <pygrammer> james_: :P
[08:10] <oskude> existance: as you installed apache2, did it ask you to select "standalone" or "inetd" ?
[08:10] <dallows> how can I unpack some archive in shell ?
[08:10] <existance> oskude, mm that worked, so i have to start/stop it that way?
[08:10] <nlfsoftware> same error..........
[08:10] <existance> oskude, i've never installed apache2
[08:10] <pygrammer> existance: i hope you know you've spelled "existence" wrong
[08:10] <skwid_> can someone help with my font problem
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> nlfsoftware, I was hoping it might tell you to run some other thing to fix it, as I saw on someone else's error follow-up.
[08:10] <skwid_> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[08:11] <existance> pygrammer, i'm aware, and i intend on keeping it that way.
[08:11] <oskude> existance: yes. most of services in ubuntu are controlled by scripts in /etc/init.d
[08:11] <nlfsoftware> I have to go dinner now... I will see this later...
[08:11] <pygrammer> existance: mmk
[08:11] <pygrammer> just thought I'd let you know
[08:11] <nlfsoftware> thanks for your time
[08:11] <existance> pygrammer, looks better with an a to me :P
[08:11] <oskude> existance: they mostly take commands like start/stop/restart/reload
[08:11] <pygrammer> it may "look" better, but it ain't right :D
[08:11] <dallows> >>> how can I unpack some archive in shell ? <<<
[08:11] <dallows> tar.gz
[08:11] <existance> oskude, does apache2 come with ubuntu or did i acquire it accidentally?
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> yea tony
[08:12] <oskude> existance: i dont think ubuntu has apache as defualt installed..
[08:12] <existance> oskude, mm..
[08:12] <james_> tar -xvfz whatever.tar.gz
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> it's something to do with how many packages you select
[08:12] <Richo63> Hi,Sorry to butt in. can anyone tell me what the admin password is for the vmware image?
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> if you select less
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> you can download them
[08:12] <dallows> thx james_
[08:12] <james_> np dallows :)
[08:13] <pygrammer> hmm, though I've now set the systime via the GUI to America/New_york, it still shows Current time zone: UTC, but shows that i've selected new york... must I restart anything now?
[08:13] <existance> oskude, shweet, 127.0.0.1 = apache index :)
[08:13] <pygrammer> maybe I might as well reboot
[08:13] <kspath> why not pygreamer ?
[08:13] <oskude> existance: tip: you can make a dir "public_html" in your home dir, and you can access it with "http://localhost/~yourusername"
[08:13] <Richo63> Hi,Sorry to butt in. can anyone tell me what the admin password is for the vmware image?
[08:13] <Cryptid> !Windows Partition
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> Richo63: We don't know.  If someone did, they would answer.  You could try again at a different time of day when different people are on.
[08:13] <Linuturk_work> robotgeek, hey!
[08:14] <existance> oskude, mm, nice, might use that.
[08:14] <james_> pygrammer does you bios support time? ..set the bios time
[08:14] <robotgeek> Linuturk_work: hey, all sorted out yet?
[08:14] <pygrammer> james_: don't know; probably
[08:14] <Richo63> OK thx, I wasn't sure If u were getting the message.
[08:14] <Linuturk_work> robotgeek, i got gcc 3.4
[08:14] <pygrammer> kspath: i don't get it
[08:14] <Linuturk_work> robotgeek, but I have yet to compile the stuff
[08:14] <Cryptid> !Windows Partition
[08:15] <james_> that happened to me pygrammer..I spent hours and hours trying to figgy it out and it was just the bios clock LOL
[08:15] <pygrammer> james_: :X
[08:15] <Hoxzer> lol seems like xine doesn't like subtitles when playing rmvb
[08:15] <robotgeek> Linuturk_work: hmm, i gotta go away now in a short while, maybe we can sneak in a session :)
[08:15] <Hoxzer> and other players dont even play that
[08:15] <pygrammer> AMD 64 3500+, 2GB RAM, etc
[08:15] <Linuturk_work> robotgeek, ok, just query me
[08:15] <kspath> pygrammer: just figured it was  py grammar  or  pyg rammer ...
[08:16] <pygrammer> kspath: heh
[08:16] <pygrammer> :/
[08:16] <pygrammer> interpret it however you like
[08:16] <james_> :@~(_!_) <--hehehe
[08:16] <james_> sorry!
[08:16] <kspath> I intercept it as the former
[08:16] <james_> ahem
[08:17] <benplaut> this is incredibly cool!
[08:17] <pygrammer> kspath: it's neither, at least how I originally intended it
[08:17] <benplaut> KDE 3.5 can have a unified menu bar, OS/X style!
[08:18] <kspath> someday if I have money I want a  dual proc dual core  amd64   that is but a distant dream though
[08:18] <benplaut> 256bits of processing...
[08:18] <businesshost> channels
[08:18] <simonvallore> Hello h ow do i fix 10 broken packages
[08:19] <businesshost> Installation question
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> simonvallore, reinstall.
[08:19] <simonvallore> It tells me to fix ten broken packages how do i fix that
[08:19] <simonvallore> thats not good
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> simonvallore, Just those ten packages, not the whole OS.
[08:19] <businesshost> getting RSDP error after 5.10 installation.  Forums have no answers only more of the same
[08:19] <benplaut> simonvallore: "sudo apt-get -f
[08:19] <monzie> help req
[08:19] <JDahl> simonvallore, in aptitude press 'B' to cycle through the broken packages and find out what's wrong
[08:20] <monzie> regarding development of gtk packages in Ubuntu..
[08:20] <simonvallore> JDahl, whats apttitude
[08:20] <dallows> hmm
[08:20] <dallows> dallows@server:~/pcre-5.0$ sudo ./configure
[08:20] <dallows> checking for gcc... no
[08:20] <dallows> checking for cc... no
[08:20] <dallows> checking for cc... no
[08:20] <businesshost> aptitude is a package manager
[08:20] <dallows> checking for cl... no
[08:20] <dallows> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[08:20] <dallows> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:20] <monzie> can anyone tell me how to download source debpackages
[08:20] <oskude> !pastebin
[08:20] <dallows> What I must to install ?
[08:20] <JDahl> simonvallore, that's an interface to the package manager
[08:20] <Hoxzer> somebody here has installed ie to work under wine?
[08:20] <oskude> doh, forgot, bot down :)
[08:20] <monzie> in an orderly fashion?
[08:20] <simonvallore> JDahl, where do i find it
[08:20] <skwid_> please someone :(
[08:20] <Hoxzer> my wine gets no internet connection
[08:21] <skwid_> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[08:21] <pygrammer> xkahn: it's always nice to whistle no matter the circumstances :)
[08:21] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the text color of gnome-panel?
[08:21] <xkahn> pygrammer: yeah.  :)  It didn't work anyway.
[08:21] <pygrammer> xkahn: just whistle.
[08:21] <businesshost> getting RSDP error after 5.10 installation.  Forums have no answers only more of the same
[08:21] <JDahl> simonvallore, you type aptitude from a terminal, but if you havent used it before, you might feel lost
[08:21] <pygrammer> less talking, more whistling :)
[08:21] <oskude> dallows:  have you installed "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[08:22] <blanky> I prefer C/C++'s syntax, I dont like how python depends on tabs and indentation
[08:22] <pygrammer> blanky: that's how a lot of people feel at first
[08:22] <businesshost> try apt-get rather than aptitude.  It's simpler.
[08:22] <pygrammer> but, like all good things, its syntax soon grows on them
[08:22] <simonvallore> JDahl, ok but i dont see anything saying broken packages
[08:22] <dallows> oskude: oo.. THX A LOT
[08:22] <blanky> yeah I like python's, but C++ is my favorite lol
[08:22] <oskude> dallows: np
[08:23] <businesshost> do a man apt-get for more details.  man apt-cache also.
[08:23] <monzie> what changes do i have to make to my repos to download source code of the packages instead of the binary packages?
[08:23] <skwid_> :/
[08:23] <cmatheson> monzie: aptitude source some_package
[08:23] <melonipoika> hi people, can anyone help me with usb camera? it doesn't mount anymore when i plug it...
[08:23] <shawnicahill> hi, i'm having trouble getting my broadcom wireless card working with the ndiswrapper package in breezy
[08:23] <businesshost> Installation question
[08:23] <businesshost> getting RSDP error after 5.10 installation.  Forums have no answers only more of the same
[08:24] <businesshost> any help
[08:24] <shawnicahill> how do i install the kernel build dir so that i may build from source?
[08:24] <monzie> the command did not work, cmatheson
[08:24] <cmatheson> monzie: sorry, apt-get source
[08:24] <pygrammer> ndiswrapper sucks
[08:25] <pygrammer> i much prefer native drivers
[08:25] <cmatheson> shawnicahill: you're going to need to apt-get install a kernel-source package first of all
[08:25] <OxB800> hello everybody
[08:25] <shawnicahill> pygrammer, me too but the laptop has what it has
[08:25] <shawnicahill> cmatheson, thanks
[08:25] <shadox> thoreauputic, and shadox is back =D
[08:25] <pygrammer> shawnicahill: what does it have?
[08:25] <OxB800> i'm currently using slackware, what is the differences, pros/cons of ubuntu linux?
[08:26] <shawnicahill> Broadcom
[08:26] <monzie> cmatheson,  it gives -> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[08:26] <pygrammer> cardbus?
[08:26] <shawnicahill> pygrammer, pci
[08:26] <benplaut> OxB800: easy to set up, unified package management (repository based), huge, awesome support community
[08:26] <Cryptid> How do i mount my second drive which is on Fat32 format and get write access to it under Ubuntu Breezy
[08:26] <pygrammer> shawnicahill: your laptop has PCI? wtf?
[08:27] <pygrammer> do you mean PCMCIA?
[08:27] <ifZZ> Hello!
[08:27] <ifZZ> I have prblem with libstdc++.so.5 Where i can find it?
[08:27] <pygrammer> haha
[08:27] <shawnicahill> pygrammer, yeah but the lshw has it under the pci tree
[08:27] <OxB800> okay thank you very much
[08:27] <cmatheson> monzie: do you have any deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:27] <tukuyomi> ifZZ, synaptic?
[08:27] <Cryptid> !Windows
[08:28] <Linuturk> robotgeek, back
[08:28] <kyncani> ifZZ: ??? you're looking for a file named libstdc++.so.5, correct ?
[08:28] <shadox> can someone help me whit a mount problem, i followed the wikipage, but it sais "no win or mac partitions found" :s
[08:28] <monzie> yup, cmatheson  its : deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[08:28] <tukuyomi> ifZZ,  search for libstdc++
[08:28] <ifZZ> kyncani, yes
[08:28] <Redrose> how can root change a users password?
[08:28] <nlindblad> passwd user
[08:28] <cmatheson> monzie: did you apt-get update?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I'm done for the day.  Talk to you all later.
[08:28] <scott_> shadox: you need to install windows first
[08:28] <monzie> yup
[08:28] <dpupp> whoa! what does ctrl alt backspace do!? i issued that command and now gdm fails to start.
[08:28] <kyncani> ifZZ: i think you should use apt-file (google apt-file)
[08:28] <shadox> scott_ euhm that's like duuuh ;)
[08:28] <Redrose> ty
[08:29] <JDahl> shadox, have you tried fstab -l to list partitions?
[08:29] <pygrammer> i'm going to fstab you
[08:29] <ifZZ> where i can download it, with deb package.. ?
[08:29] <monzie> i did, cmatheson , but doing it again now
[08:29] <ifZZ> kyncani
[08:29] <dpupp> n/m fixed it.\
[08:29] <scott_> shadox: well then, did GRUB not initiate?
[08:29] <kyncani> ifZZ: but in that case synaptic->search would probably be sufficient
[08:29] <dpupp> wierd
[08:29] <shadox> JDhal, i did like wiki sais, but can you explain your version of mount?
[08:29] <shadox> scott_ yup grub :)
[08:29] <ifZZ> kyncani, oookey thx
[08:30] <shawnicahill> cmatheson, ok uname says i'm using 2.6.12 but the kernel-source pkgs only go as high as 2.6.11
[08:30] <scott_> shadox: then what are you trying to do? access the partition without shwitching operating systems?
[08:30] <james_> shadox: did you get your grub issue resolved?
[08:30] <shadox> scott_ i can C both partitions on my ubuntu desktop, but i can't open them
[08:30] <shadox> james_ yes i did :)
[08:30] <cmatheson> shawnicahill: hmm, in that case you could download it from kernel.org if you want the newer version
[08:30] <ifZZ> bb
[08:30] <james_> coolies! bummer bout the partition issue
[08:30] <ifZZ> !windows
[08:30] <Thorondor> does anyone know what sound driver i have to use for think like skype/teamspeak?
[08:31] <scott_> shadox: i've always had the same problem. i cant get my RVB... but could it be the difference in filing systems that wont let you actively view the files?
[08:31] <shawnicahill> cmatheson, do i have to recompile the whole kernel to get the build dir? is there not a pkg that corrusponds with my current kernel?
[08:31] <shadox> how can i C which version i'm running breezy, or hoary, ...
[08:31] <ifZZ> !Windows
[08:31] <shadox> scott_ id
[08:31] <Cryptid> How do i copy a whole folder from 1 drive to anyother ( the command to be used in Terminal)
[08:31] <kyncani> shadox: gcc -v ???
[08:31] <shadox> scott_ the partitions are on my desktop but i can't open them, when i do an error apears
[08:31] <cmatheson> shawnicahill: oh, there is .12 it's in linux-source-2.6.12 ... what do you need the build dir for?
[08:31] <shawnicahill> Cryptid, mv folder1 folder2
[08:32] <JDahl> shadox, what kind of partitions are you trying to access? I have "/dev/sda5   /media/windows  vfat   defaults,umask=0 0 0" to access a vfat partition
[08:32] <shadox> kyncani: gcc -v? :x :$
[08:32] <oskude> shawarma: thats move !
[08:32] <pygrammer> shawnicahill: mv -f for all the files inside, eh?
[08:32] <shawnicahill> cmatheson, newest ndiswrapper
[08:32] <james_> Cryptid: you would cp -R /whatever/* /to/whatever
[08:32] <shadox> JDahl, it's eurhm ntfs
[08:32] <pygrammer> oh, copy, whoops
[08:32] <oskude> shawarma: sry, ment shawnicahill :)
[08:32] <cmatheson> shawnicahill: hmm, i'd recommend rebuilding the whole kernel, but you may be able to get away w/ just having the headers
[08:32] <kyncani> shadox: soooorry, misread (a lot) :) ;)
[08:33] <d03boy> if i have the source for a package, how can I use dpkg to make an ubuntu package for it? (i'm trying to install noip2)
[08:33] <shadox> kyncani, np :D
[08:33] <shawnicahill> cmatheson,
[08:33] <shawnicahill> cmatheson, thanks
[08:33] <cmatheson> shawnicahill: np
[08:33] <JDahl> shadox, then something like "/dev/sda2   /media/sda2   ntfs  defaults    0   0" in /etc/fstab. You can only read ntfs partitions from ubuntu
[08:33] <cmatheson> d03boy: if there is a debian directory, you can just run 'debian/rules' otherwise you could use something like 'checkinstall' or just don't build a deb
[08:34] <shadox> JDhal, uhu, I know i can ony read them, but it just won't open :(
[08:34] <shadox> JDhal, mayB a reboot can solve this problem?
[08:34] <JDahl> shadox, what does your fstab say?
[08:35] <monzie> thanks, cmatheson  it worked..
[08:35] <cmatheson> monzie: cool, np
[08:35] <shadox> JDhal, fstab? :$
[08:35] <monzie> now how to compile the sources that i get...
[08:35] <JDahl> shadox, unless you just finished a Linux install, there shouldn't be any reason to reboot
[08:35] <Thorondor> does anyone know what sound driver i have to use for things like skype/teamspeak?
[08:35] <monzie> the same ./configure , make , make install stuff?
[08:35] <JDahl> shadox, since you ask about fstab, I take it that my previous suggestions didnt mean much to you ? ;)
[08:35] <evert> hello all !
[08:36] <james_> hello evert
[08:36] <existance> any good open source CD-burning software?
[08:36] <cmatheson> existance: lots... k3b, gnometoaster, cdrecord...
[08:36] <james_> existance: kb3
[08:36] <james_> k3b
[08:36] <existance> gratzi :)
[08:36] <james_> doh!
[08:36] <evert> does somebody knows a program where i can talk with , with friends who have got msn or skype ? (i tried to install skype but that failed on my 64 bit ubuntu ... if there are solutions ?)
[08:37] <Thorondor> evert: try gaim for msn
[08:37] <cmatheson> evert: you could try the new gaim2.0 beta
[08:37] <jbroome> skype doesn't talk to anything but skype
[08:37] <soundray> evert, you can set up a 32-bit chroot environment to run skype.
[08:37] <soundray> !chroot
[08:37] <evert> wow not to difficult i'm completely new to linux , i just now how to open the terminal :p
[08:37] <shadox> JDhal, correct me if i'm wrong, but you only use fstab when mounting partition manuel? I 'd like to mount them auto
[08:38] <chalcedony> evert welcome :)
[08:38] <evert> i'll try that new gaim beta ?
[08:38] <crimsun> shadox: /etc/fstab is used for that, too
[08:38] <evert> or the skype thing ?
[08:38] <kellemes> fstab is to mount auto
[08:38] <cmatheson> shadox: ok i'm going to correct you... you have to edit the fstab if you want it to mount automatically
[08:38] <james_> evert: thumbs up..congrats! almost there :P
[08:38] <d03boy> cmatheson, there is a binaries directory and a debian.noip2.sh but the readme says nothing about that script
[08:38] <soundray> evert, also consider running i386 instead of amd64.
[08:38] <d03boy> so id ont know what it does
[08:38] <chalcedony> evert www.tuxfiles.org (i just found this.. might be useful)
[08:39] <evert> soundray that's not possible within a month (then i'll receive my ubuntu cd's :) ) now i have exceeded my bandwith already :(
[08:39] <cmatheson> d03boy: what script now?
[08:39] <d03boy> for noip2
[08:39] <Crackez> i think i need to get rid of my dual Xeon
[08:39] <monzie> can anyone tell me what commands to issue to compile a program i downloaded with "apt-get source xxx"??
[08:40] <shadox> cmatheson, ow :$ did'nt know that part sry
[08:40] <pussfeller> im trying to compile kernel drivers for a ralink rt2x00 and I keep getting *** No rule to make target `4'.  Stop.
[08:40] <evert> chalcedony ; thx for the link ! it seems very usefull
[08:40] <james_> bandwidth? *snicker* been dere done dat
[08:40] <cmatheson> d03boy: hmm, i don't know what that debian.noip2.sh is... i would recommend reading the docs
[08:40] <Crackez> i wonder how much it's worth
[08:40] <cmatheson> shadox: that's ok
[08:40] <d03boy> cmatheson, i read the docs :P
[08:40] <crimsun> pussfeller: paste all the output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:40] <cmatheson> d03boy: it didn't mention the debian script?
[08:40] <simonvallore> is there a way to force install a program
[08:40] <d03boy> cmatheson, nope
[08:40] <cmatheson> d03boy: ok, i would say just go w/ the way it tells you to install then
[08:40] <shadox> JDhal, mayB i should just reboot, and C if the reboot worked if not, i'll be back :D
[08:41] <Crackez> does anyone have an idea what a dual 500MHz Xeon, 1GB RAM, 6 disk RAID, U160 + DDS3 drive would be worth?
[08:41] <jbroome> Crackez: i'll give you $5
[08:41] <Crackez> the disks are 9GB
[08:41] <james_> i'll give you $6 :))
[08:41] <jbroome> oh.  3.50 then
[08:41] <pygrammer> $300?
[08:41] <Crackez> so there's about 36Gb of storage, one is setup as a hot spare
[08:41] <Razor-X> what's a good CLI torrent program?
[08:41] <shadox> i just did a new format, getting breezy in stead of hoary, but now i need to change my sources again, can anyony post me his sources? :$
[08:42] <pussfeller> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5931
[08:42] <jbroome> Crackez: what kind of case is it in?  RM or tower?
[08:42] <crimsun> Razor-X: btdownloadcurses
[08:42] <rosen> Is there a shellcommand to make firestarter auto load on system startup ?
[08:42] <Crackez> it's convertable
[08:42] <Crackez> I don't have the rail kit though
[08:42] <Razor-X> crimsun: I've never been able to get much speed with that
[08:42] <Crackez> so pretty much tower
[08:42] <Razor-X> crimsun: oddly enough, graphical BT clients work, though
[08:42] <trappist> rosen: let firestarter load your rules, then use the iptables init script to manage boot-time stuff
[08:42] <evert> euhmm the gaim2.0 beta's are only for i386 ... can i install them on my 64 bit ubuntu ?
[08:42] <jbroome> Crackez: hotswap drives?
[08:42] <Crackez> yup
[08:43] <crimsun> pussfeller: that's not enough output. I need all of it from when you executed the command.
[08:43] <cmatheson> evert: if you build from source i don't think it should be a problem
[08:43] <jbroome> 3-400 sounds about right
[08:43] <trappist> oh nm ubuntu doesn't have an iptables init script :)
[08:43] <jbroome> you can check ebay for completed auctions and see
[08:43] <Crackez> there's a problem with it though
[08:43] <jbroome> it's running server 2000?
[08:43] <rosen> trappist, that sounds complicated... in any event I have no idea what you just said ;)
[08:43] <evert> lol i'm completely new , i even have problems with just installing things ... so compiling source is still a bit to difficult :p
[08:43] <Crackez> the keyboard controller is dieing i think
[08:43] <pussfeller> crimsun: thats all i get, even if i use make debug, i can use make -d but its a ton of stuff, if you want
[08:44] <jbroome> eh, that's not a deal breaker
[08:44] <Crackez> it was running 2000 server a while back
[08:44] <Crackez> it also ran CentOS 3.4 for a while
[08:44] <james_> rosen: I started my firestarter from gnome and ever since it auto starts in the background
[08:44] <Crackez> i tried FreeBSD 6, but it hangs trying to initialize atkbd0
[08:45] <Crackez> it wieghs a ton too
[08:45] <james_> but here is a better question rosen...why reboot or shutdown and perfectly running system?
[08:45] <Crackez> about 70lbs
[08:45] <james_> a*
[08:45] <Crackez> i should try win2k on it again, see if it still has issues
[08:46] <rosen> james_, I wouldnt if it was perfectly running ... but like today I rebooted after it being on for about 4 days .. and forgot to turn on my firewall ;)
[08:46] <jbroome> Crackez: if there's a craigslist in your area, stick it on there.  i'm sure someone will grab it
[08:46] <james_> rosen: no router?
[08:46] <jbroome> and put ubuntu on it so it'll be ontopic. :)
[08:47] <sethk> rosen, like today?  don't you know if it was today or not?
[08:47] <crimsun> pussfeller: yes, -d will be helpful
[08:47] <rosen> james_, yeah but I'm not in control of it.. I got an admin living next door, we are a couple of people sharing a 24Mb connection
[08:47] <Thorondor> how can i see what sound drivers are installed and working on my computer?
[08:47] <crimsun> Thorondor: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:47] <Thorondor> thanks
[08:48] <Lexmark> jenda u there ?
[08:48] <Ophiocus> what would be an apt-get command to get the i686 kernel installed?
[08:48] <jenda> Lexmark: yup
[08:48] <rosen> sethk, yes ... 'Like today' is and example of when I would have liked it to autostartup .... anything constructive to add ?
[08:48] <HappyFool> Ophiocus: apt-get install linux-686
[08:48] <Lexmark> was  looking at that  site  , but still not find  a  way for  it
[08:49] <Lexmark>  have looked  at forums  and  all  but  it isen't there  :((
[08:49] <pussfeller> crimsun: i think i need to unbzip the linux source in /usr/src and make a symlink to usr/src/linux
[08:49] <evert> i need to do this ( sudo apt-get install binutils
[08:49] <evert> ) for installing my nvidia drivers ... but it don't works ?
[08:49] <crimsun> pussfeller: no, don't create that symlink. That's the wrong way to go about it.
[08:49] <soundray> evert, what's the error?
[08:49] <james_> rosen: I started mine and left it open and when I rebooted I selected to save the current setup and it just starts now
[08:49] <james_> hope that helps
[08:50] <Lexmark> but  tnx  for  the  url  , it is  a  good  site
[08:50] <rosen> james_, yeah I tried using that option aswell but it doesnt seem to register ... it's wierd... but hopefully I wont have to reboot often ;)
[08:50] <Ophiocus> gonna try that, thanks
[08:50] <Thorondor> crimsun: do you know how i can tell applications to use a specific driver?
[08:50] <IceGuest> hello
[08:51] <evert> sorry i have got another problem while installing nvidia drivers :   ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file
[08:51] <evert>          '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find
[08:51] <evert>          suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available
[08:51] <evert>          on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.
[08:51] <jenda> Lexmark: It is a good site - it has helped me several times... but I don't know anything about the problem myself - try asking here or I dunno... google perhaps.
[08:51] <sethk> rosen, do you mean that you want to persist your iptables configuration across reboots and have it start automatically on boot?
[08:51] <Papageno> I messed up my /etc/apt/sources.list. Don't ask. Does anyone have the default one or one with the universe and multiverse added?
[08:51] <IceGuest> can anyone direct me to get a Bootup disk for Ubuntu to install it on my hard drive?
[08:51] <james_> ya that is wierd...it never seems to be the same from one puter to another. I never had probs from the start but I hear others and I feel bad they go threw all that nonesense :P
[08:52] <rosen> sethk, probably .. I'm not sure what that means, but the plan was for firestarter to reload after reboot
[08:52] <crimsun> Thorondor: err, what?
[08:52] <Crackez> I was just looking on craigs list
[08:52] <jahshua> hi
[08:52] <IceGuest> can anyone direct me to get a Bootup disk for Ubuntu to install it on my hard drive?
[08:52] <Crackez> there is one for the philly area
[08:52] <jahshua> can someone please remind me of the command to check your hd space for kubuntu
[08:52] <xav___> have you any games to suggest for a 10 years old girl?
[08:52] <sethk> rosen, does it show on the services application?
[08:52] <IceGuest> can anyone direct me to get a Bootup disk for Ubuntu to install it on my hard drive?
[08:52] <Crackez> frozenbubble
[08:53] <HappyFool> and pingus (lemmings clone)
[08:53] <Thorondor> crimsun: applications like Teamspeak or Skype got a field where you have to insert what sound driver you want to use
[08:53] <xav___> Crackez: any others?
[08:53] <soundray> IceGuest, there is an image on your install CD
[08:53] <james_> sethk: I know my firestarter shows up on services since I started it
[08:53] <xav___> HappyFool: hmm ok I'll try that, see if she likes
[08:53] <soundray> IceGuest, /install/sbm.bin
[08:53] <crimsun> Thorondor: then just tell it to use /dev/dsp per normal
[08:53] <Lexmark>  oke  i will search  again ,  tnx  anyway
[08:53] <Crackez> there is actually a package, it has several games suitable for young games
[08:53] <Crackez> no blood or gore
[08:53] <Crackez> i'm trying to remember the name
[08:53] <evert> nobody ?
[08:53] <sethk> james_, if it is checked, it should restart.  It's possible to start it from the command line and not turn it on as as service, in which case it won't start on the next reboot.
[08:53] <xav___> Crackez: it would be nice, thanks
[08:54] <saib0t> hellooo.! =)
[08:54] <sethk> evert, what does the log file show?
[08:54] <soundray> IceGuest, or is it the actual install CD you're looking for?
[08:54] <rosen> sethk, hmm actually, now thet I checked for it I cannot see it amongst the running applications, using the system-monitor
[08:54] <evert> i don't know how i can get to the log file
[08:54] <shadox> can someone please send me his sources??
[08:54] <evert> i found the log file
[08:55] <IceGuest> no i downloaded it and burned it to CD becoz my comp won't CD boot, i need a floppy bootup for ubuntu
[08:55] <james_> yes I never did a thing tho sethk...not that I know of anyways LOL ...I am always strung out on coffee so who knows maybe lost in the memory vapour somewhere in the nth dimension
[08:55] <sethk> evert, it gives you the prompt.  just edit the file
[08:55] <james_> :P
[08:55] <Crackez> xav___, childsplay
[08:55] <soundray> !easysource
[08:55] <sethk> james_, no, you are correct, the install should have set it up as a service automatically.  But something didn't go right with the install in this case.
[08:55] <shadox> soundray ?
[08:55] <evert> this is what the log file shows : ERROR: An NVIDIA kernel module 'nvidia' appears to already be loaded in your
[08:55] <evert>        kernel.  This may be because it is in use (for example, by the X
[08:55] <evert>        server), but may also happen if your kernel was configured without
[08:55] <evert>        support for module unloading.  Please be sure you have exited X before
[08:55] <evert>        attempting to upgrade your driver.  If you have exited X, know that your
[08:55] <Crackez> xav__: try apt-cache search junior
[08:55] <evert>        kernel supports module unloading, and still receive this message, then
[08:55] <evert>        an error may have occured that has corrupted the NVIDIA kernel module's
[08:55] <soundray> shadox, check out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:55] <evert>        usage count; the simplest remedy is to reboot your computer.
[08:56] <robotgeek> evert: please don't paste here
[08:56] <shadox> soundray ok, will do , thnx
[08:56] <evert> sorry
[08:56] <james_> would uninstalling it and reinstalling it work?
[08:56] <Crackez> is anyone on here from the philadelphia area?
[08:56] <james_> <--savannah..but canadian :P
[08:57] <Kuyaedz> I installed & then removed kubuntu-desktop (and all kde packages) but my machine still displays 'Kubuntu' at boot.  Anyone?
[08:57] <shadox> soundray, rlly thnx man, you rule!! :D
[08:57] <{alejandro}> Kuyaedz, you want the ubuntu-usplash
[08:58] <{alejandro}> Kuyaedz serach usplash in synaptic
[08:58] <Kuyaedz> alejandro: I'll try that, thanks
[08:58] <sethk> james_, it certainly might help, yes
[08:58] <evert> can somebody explain me how i can install that drivers ?
[08:59] <sethk> evert, try to rmmod the module
[08:59] <ubu-g> $ cardctl ident
[08:59] <ubu-g> Socket 0:
[08:59] <ubu-g> no product info available
[08:59] <ubu-g> Socket 1:
[08:59] <ubu-g> product info: "3Com", "3CRSHPW_96 Wireless LAN PC Card"
[08:59] <ubu-g> manfid: 0x0101, 0x0696
[08:59] <ubu-g> function: 6 (network)
[08:59] <sethk> evert, sudo rmmod nvidia
[08:59] <sethk> ubu-g, don't flood, please.  use #flood or a pastebot
[09:00] <evert> i'll try that command sethk
[09:00] <ubu-g> sorry man
[09:00] <james_> sethk: that is what I would just try..if not I would have a cup o joe and scrap it LOL
[09:00] <sethk> james_, sounds reasonable
[09:00] <Lexmark>  someone has  experience with lexmark z55 printer on ubuntu or  a  diverent distribution ?
[09:00] <evert> sethk i get the following error : ERROR: Module nvidia is in use
[09:00] <james_> i use a router anyways and no ports answer back
[09:00] <sethk> evert, ok, X is running, then
[09:01] <ubu-g> i'm having problem with this card "3Com", "3CRSHPW_96 Wireless LAN PC Card "
[09:01] <sethk> evert, go to a console (control-alt-f1), log in as root, and do this:   init 1
[09:01] <sethk> evert, that will put you in runlevel 1, which does not have X
[09:01] <evert> how can i og in as a root ?
[09:01] <sethk> evert, you can try killing X first, but usually it autorestarts
[09:01] <Linuturk> use sudo
[09:01] <james_> ubu-g: take 3Com card...dispose of it...get a good card...install...voila!
[09:01] <sethk> evert, use sudo if you can't do root.
[09:01] <shadox> soundray, what program do you use to listen mp3's?
[09:01] <james_> unless yu can get some money for it
[09:02] <james_> :P
[09:02] <soundray> shadox, beep-media-player
[09:02] <evert> so go to that console with control alt F1 , than sudo init 1 and than sudo rmmodod nvidia ?
[09:02] <shadox> soundray, thnx then i'll install that one
[09:02] <ubu-g> u mean its not a reliable card?
[09:02] <james_> never liked 3com cards...ew ew
[09:02] <ubu-g> lol
[09:03] <Papageno> In the guide on installing JDK, it tells you to apt-get java-package, but I can't find it. Not even in the universe or multiverse. Where is it?
[09:03] <d03boy> anyone know how I can make 'su' work so I dont have to use sudo all the time?
[09:03] <oktay> hello. is there a firefox 1.5 package for breezy ?
[09:03] <sethk> evert, rmmod, you mean.  Yes, try that.  if the sudo init 1 doesn't work, you'll have to reboot in single user mode
[09:03] <slew> heh, connected thru 286 sx machine using ubuntu live. =] 
[09:03] <shadox> soundray, do i also need to download the w32 codec for that program?
[09:03] <sethk> d03boy, just set a root password
[09:03] <oktay> d03boy:: what doesn't work ?
[09:03] <ubu-g> but when i insert the card the green light come up
[09:03] <ubu-g> does it mean it recongnaised
[09:03] <james_> since I first started using linux which was 10 years ago ..I stopped using anything 3com
[09:04] <soundray> shadox, it works here without w32codecs.
[09:04] <d03boy> ok it works
[09:04] <anir> hi friends.. how are you
[09:04] <james_> hey anir
[09:04] <shadox> soundray, can i also play movies with it?
[09:04] <anir> james_, how are you doing
[09:05] <ubu-g> james..just wandering why doesn't ubu detect 3com card?
[09:05] <james_> I am fine...now that I have a fresh cup "O" joe
[09:05] <soundray> shadox, no. For movies, I use vdr.
[09:05] <xav___> Crackez: thanks btw
[09:05] <oktay> firefox 1.5 breezy package.. does this exist?
[09:05] <crimsun> oktay: not yet.
[09:05] <oktay> thanks
[09:05] <soundray> shadox, or mplayer.
[09:05] <Wioo|Jhou> how much the system ubuntu is ocuped in storage
[09:05] <Wioo|Jhou> ?
[09:05] <anir> hey can anyone tell me if i download kubuntu-default-settings and kubuntu-desktop, will be same as using kubuntu or kubuntu has someting more extra..????
[09:06] <Wioo|Jhou> 1gb is ok ??!
[09:06] <evert> i'm back , i did what you said , but it said that nvidia didn't excist
[09:06] <soundray> Wioo|Jhou, a basic install with graphics and everything takes ca. 1.6 GB
[09:06] <james_> oktay: you can use firefox 1.5 but look for the fix for breezy if you are using breezy...there are a few steps that you need to follow to get it to work ;)
[09:06] <oktay> d03boy:: you can also do 'sudo bash' and start a shell as root.. you don't need 'su' at all
[09:06] <Wioo|Jhou> soundray thanks
[09:06] <shadox> soundray, what about vlc? i allways used it in XP, would be nice if it also work in ubuntu
[09:06] <oktay> james_:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion  all here?
[09:06] <{alejandro}> shadox vlc is avaliable
[09:06] <james_> yes that is it oktay!
[09:07] <oktay> ok. will do. thanks.
[09:07] <{alejandro}> shadox make sure you have multiverse and universe enabled
[09:07] <soundray> shadox, 0.8.4-svn20050920 is in universe
[09:07] <d03boy> oktay, well is there anything wrong with setting a root pass?
[09:07] <ubu-g> what type of card do need james?
[09:07] <james_> your welcome I had that one last week
[09:07] <oktay> d03boy:: nope.
[09:07] <d03boy> because... for instance.. my friend had his sudoers file corrupted last night
[09:07] <anir> did anyone heard my question???
[09:07] <d03boy> thats bad :|
[09:07] <yatesy> haha
[09:07] <oktay> yeah. that's bad.
[09:07] <yatesy> idiot
[09:07] <{alejandro}> anir, what
[09:07] <james_> oktay another thing to do they do not have in there for firefox is this..
[09:07] <shadox> soundray ooooh  U R my Ubuntu king :D
[09:07] <oktay> set a root password
[09:07] <oktay> but you don't have to use su
[09:07] <anir> {alejandro}, hey can anyone tell me if i download kubuntu-default-settings and kubuntu-desktop, will be same as using kubuntu or kubuntu has someting more extra..????
[09:07] <d03boy> oktay, ok, sounds good
[09:07] <{alejandro}> anir it is the sames
[09:07] <{alejandro}> *same
[09:07] <evert> i'm back , i did what you said , but it said that nvidia didn't excist ... what now ?
[09:08] <d03boy> oktay, he keeps giving me shit about using ubuntu because it doesnt have su. he wants to use fedora (ewww)
[09:08] <{alejandro}> anir only with gnome too :)
[09:08] <oktay> heh.
[09:08] <sethk> evert, that's ok, it removed it because you turned off graphics.  so now you can install
[09:08] <james_> in the address bar type about:config then type in the search box network.enableIDN and right mouse click it and select toggle to set it to false then you will correct a security issue with 1.5
[09:08] <anir> {alejandro}, that means if i download those, i dont need to install kubuntu ...
[09:08] <yatesy> d03boy: tell him he's an idiot then, because no-one forces you to use anything
[09:08] <evert> so now are my drivers removed ? i'll try to install them again
[09:08] <{alejandro}> anir it is unnecessary to install kubuntu from disk
[09:08] <oktay> james_:: isn't that the international domain name thing.. it's back? that's lame.
[09:08] <evert> but how can i install them ?
[09:08] <ubu-g> what wireless card is suitable for ubuntu box
[09:09] <yatesy> d03boy: he wants to use su, then he can use su
[09:09] <soundray> anir, these packages *are* kubuntu in essence.
[09:09] <d03boy> yatesy, ya, i already told him he's an idiot :P
[09:09] <{alejandro}> anir all the stuff for ubuntu and kubuntu is in the same repository
[09:09] <yatesy> d03boy: good man
[09:09] <oktay> ubu-g:: ipw2200 works fine.. it's the intel thing
[09:09] <{alejandro}> anir kubuntu-desktop will do it
[09:09] <james_> it never was fixed..;)
[09:09] <oktay> heh. ok.
[09:09] <evert> just go to the console (contral alt F1) and than sudo ./nvidia.run ?
[09:09] <oktay> will keep that in mind. thanks james_
[09:09] <ubu-g> thanks 4 the tips oktay
[09:09] <anir> {alejandro}, ok.. i downloaded an iso of kubuntu but it didnt installed in my system
[09:09] <james_> np oktay :)
[09:09] <{alejandro}> anir do you have ubuntu installed
[09:09] <anir> {alejandro}, yes i have
[09:10] <oktay> ubu-g:: np
[09:10] <{alejandro}> anir you don't need that iso unless you wanna wipe your disk or install on another computer
[09:10] <oktay> later boys.
[09:10] <oktay> thanks
[09:10] <sethk> evert, aren't you already at the console?
[09:10] <{alejandro}> anir kubuntu desktop will install the usplash and kdm and such
[09:10] <{alejandro}> anir so it is like kubuntu
[09:10] <sexcopter8000m> anyone know what an .ape file is and what can play it (i suspect it's an audio file)
[09:10] <shadox> soundray, I got vlc *partyyy*
[09:11] <benplaut> anyone know how to do something similar to this is breezy, with xorg?
[09:11] <benplaut> http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@xfree86.org/msg03333.html
[09:11] <evert> not any more ... i only did the rmmod thing and then i quitet the console (i don't know how to use a thing in console :p)
[09:11] <anir> {alejandro}, actually i wanted to install kubuntu.. but it didnt installed .. thats why i installed ubuntu.. but i am not much comfortable with gnime.. though its great.. but i have to learn a lot
[09:11] <soundray> sexcopter8000m, run "file file.ape" and see what it says.
[09:11] <evert> i'm going to give it a second try :)
[09:11] <{alejandro}> anir you can remove ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[09:11] <blue-frog> sexcopter8000m, u have ape plugins avaliable in synapic
[09:11] <anir> {alejandro}, how is that
[09:11] <Linuturk> so, after compiling linux-wlan-ng, my card still doesn't work :(
[09:11] <{alejandro}> anir it is a lot easier than reinstalling, because reinstalling will erase your disk
[09:12] <{alejandro}> anir after you install kubuntu-desktop, sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop
[09:12] <anir> {alejandro}, yes.. and i hate that.. could u plz guide me..
[09:12] <{alejandro}> err, i meant ubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <{alejandro}> anir but install kubuntu-desktop first
[09:12] <{alejandro}> anir and tell it to use kdm instead of gdm
[09:13] <sexcopter8000m> soundray, it just says "data" blue-frog ok i'll look now
[09:13] <Thorondor> does anyone know how to set up Teamspeak 2 on ubuntu?
[09:13] <anir> {alejandro}, does that mean i will get all the softwares that comes with KDE ??
[09:13] <soundray> {alejandro}, why remove gnome? He might change his mind...
[09:13] <{alejandro}> anir yep
[09:13] <Linuturk_work> got a file manager problem with XFCE. it won't load up
[09:13] <{alejandro}> soundray he asked to
[09:13] <dabaR__>  Is a triangle pointing down a standard sign for grounding?
[09:13] <soundray> sexcopter8000m, okay, that didn't help then...
[09:13] <shadox> brb reboot, C if my partitions will open
[09:13] <blue-frog> sexcopter8000m, ape is music, there's a plugin somewhere for a player...
[09:13] <dabaR__> symbol rather for electrical grounding.
[09:13] <anir> {alejandro}, how can i tell it to use kdm instead of gdm
[09:13] <soundray> {alejandro}, okay, missed that bit, sorry.
[09:14] <{alejandro}> anir a window will come up
[09:14] <ubu-g> how do I add the shell terminal on xfce panel?
[09:14] <anir> {alejandro}, after installing Kde-desktop ??
[09:14] <james_> cya 'all l8rzzz gots ta fly da coop :P
[09:14] <{alejandro}> anir yeah
[09:14] <anir> {alejandro}, does sudo work in kde?
[09:14] <{alejandro}> anir yes
[09:14] <evert> hello i'm back again , i tried to install the drivers but i got some warnings ...
[09:15] <{alejandro}> anir basic linux stuff is the same in both
[09:15] <anir> {alejandro}, so i will download it now.. it may take an hour or so right
[09:15] <{alejandro}> anir depends on the connection
[09:15] <self_> Hi
[09:15] <{alejandro}> anir I have to go, so someone else will have to answer your questions from here
[09:15] <anir> {alejandro}, oh.. that means i have to mount all the drives that are not linux drives.. i hate that
[09:16] <Linuturk_work> now I don't have permissions to empty my trash?
[09:16] <Linuturk_work> :(
[09:16] <nox_ghost> I have connected my usb 256MB disk, and I don't have any /dev/sd* or the automount... what to do?
[09:16] <anir> {alejandro}, thaank you so much.. have a nice day
[09:16] <evert> can somebody help me pls ? i have the log files ... but i can't post them here because they are to long ... it's about installing nvidia drivers
[09:17] <DShepherd> hey
[09:17] <Linuturk_work> what is the BASH command for deleting a folder and all the subfiles and folders?
[09:17] <sethk> evert, post them on a postbot
[09:17] <dell500> anyone know how to get a raid0 sata (2 120gb) device to work in windows and be read for itunes?? :)
[09:17] <evert> postbot ?
[09:17] <Linuturk_work> postbin* ?
[09:17] <sethk> evert, see the topic.  If it is the warning about "poluting the kernel", just ignore it.
[09:17] <sethk> pastebot
[09:17] <sethk> whatever.  :)
[09:17] <Linuturk_work> er, pastebin* ?
[09:18] <evert> its about Could not compile gcc-version-check.c.
[09:18] <DShepherd> what command (CLI) can I use to play a wav file? I dont like esd so dont suggest esdplay
[09:18] <blue-frog> Linuturk_work, rm -rf /home/user/whatever-folder-u-want-to-delete
[09:18] <sethk> Linuturk_work, no, the generc name for it is paste bot.  that's a specific instance of it.
[09:18] <self_> can someone tell me why is it so hard to mount a floppy in linux?
[09:18] <sethk> self_, it isn't
[09:18] <pramz> self_: it isnt hard
[09:18] <nox_ghost> self_, sethk is right.
[09:18] <nox_ghost> self_, so as pramz
[09:18] <pramz> mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ?
[09:18] <self_> well i get  you are not root
[09:18] <Linuturk_work> blue-frog, thanks, what does the -rf do?
[09:18] <pramz> well sudo it :)
[09:18] <Papageno> What can I use in Ubuntu to listen to online radio audio streams of real audio (.smil) or WMP?
[09:19] <pramz> Linuturk_work: recursive without confirmation/force
[09:19] <jahshua> can someone tell me how to disable ipv6 in kubuntu ?
[09:19] <florian> salut
[09:19] <sethk> self_, you can use -t msdos, and it will automatically figure out which fat variety the disk uses
[09:19] <Linuturk_work> pramz, thx
[09:19] <blue-frog> Linuturk_work, recursive and force so beware on what folder u apply that
[09:19] <nox_ghost> jahshua, you mean the module ?
[09:19] <florian> je cherche a installer mplayer et je le trouve pas dans synaptic
[09:19] <jahshua> well im not sure i was told kubuntu installs with ipv6 something or other
[09:19] <jahshua> i need to remove it
[09:19] <nox_ghost> florian, please talk english
[09:19] <florian> il est sur quel depot?
[09:19] <jahshua> i did ti before but i cant remember how
[09:19] <mike__> think its  rm   with or without option -r  to remove  delete a  folder and subfiles
[09:20] <jahshua> it causes me to lag
[09:20] <self_> I am using ubuntu and when i use the places menu it refuses to mount the floppy
[09:20] <blue-frog> florian, in universe
[09:20] <nox_ghost> jahshua, why do you think that ipv6 support is causing you lags ?
[09:20] <jahshua> well i dont really know but when i disabled it before my connection did get better
[09:20] <dallows> uff
[09:20] <gneale_> anybody have a suggestion for a cross-platform, "open standards" contact info format?
[09:20] <dallows> I have problem, I compile verlihub and...
[09:20] <dallows> checking for mysql-devel... no
[09:20] <dallows> configure: error: "install mysql-devel or somewhere it's called mysql-dev"
[09:20] <HappyFool> maybe jahshua is talking about the ipv6 in firefox's about:config
[09:20] <dallows> :-(
[09:20] <mike__> linuturk_work did  u see what i wrote ?
[09:21] <nox_ghost> jahshua, that's impossible.. sorry
[09:21] <dallows> can anyone help me ?
[09:21] <jahshua> nox can you tell me how to disable it anyway
[09:21] <Linuturk_work> mike__, no
[09:21] <evert> pff :( i'm not getting out of my problems :(
[09:21] <jahshua> there is webpages about it
[09:21] <jahshua> so its not just me
[09:21] <trappist> dallows: sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient10-dev
[09:21] <dallows> thanks !
[09:21] <mike__> u can use  rm with optie -r top delete  folder and  subfiles
[09:22] <dpupp> ok! finally got all three monitors to display on my tri-monitor setup! yay!!! only a few problems left!
[09:22] <anir> why am i finding it hard to handle the linux...???
[09:22] <Linuturk_work> dpupp, glad you got it working
[09:22] <DShepherd> what command (CLI) can I use to play a wav file? I dont like esd so dont suggest esdplay
[09:22] <crimsun> DShepherd: aplay
[09:22] <jordo23> anir: ??
[09:22] <Linuturk_work> mike__, thanks
[09:22] <shadox> shadox is back
[09:22] <dpupp> this lists my final problems! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=588635#post588635 would someone care to look them over?
[09:23] <shadox> partitions still don't work :'(
[09:23] <mike__> your welkom
[09:23] <trappist> DShepherd: play
[09:23] <anir> jordo23, video is not playing in totem...
[09:23] <nox_ghost> DShepherd, aplay or mplayer
[09:23] <shadox> they are on my desktop but i can't open them :'(
[09:23] <crimsun> aplay is the default alsa wav player.
[09:23] <jahshua> nox can you tell me how to disable ipv6 ?
[09:23] <DShepherd> trappist, nox_ghost and crimsun thanks
[09:23] <jordo23> Anir:  You probably don't have the correct codecs for Totem....
[09:23] <Linuturk_work> dpupp, do one for the ATI IGP 340M chipset too!
[09:23] <Linuturk_work> :-P
[09:23] <HappyFool> jahshua: are you talking about in firefox ?
[09:23] <anir> jordo23, perhaps..
[09:23] <nox_ghost> jahshua, I don't know where exactly you want to disable ipv6.
[09:24] <navyn> hey guys, is there any way to transfer video from your dv camera that's already on tape using Kino?  I can get it to do live video, but not sure how to get it to work on video i've already recorded
[09:24] <jahshua> happyfool no i know how to do that
[09:24] <jahshua> disable it in kubuntu entirely no?
[09:24] <anir> jordo23, i am downloading kubuntu so i cant download it now...
[09:24] <anir> jordo23, whats the default video player in kubuntu
[09:24] <self_> ok so when i try sudo mount it says only root can do that
[09:24] <ubu-g> Totem crash everytime i run it.. why
[09:24] <gneale_> POLL: where do you keep your contact info?
[09:24] <HappyFool> jahshua: i don't know how to disable ipv6 otherwise, sorry
[09:25] <nox_ghost> self_, show me the exact command you wrote
[09:25] <dpupp> Linuturk_work, is that a dualhead card?
[09:25] <jordo23> anir: Not sure....I just used Totem. Don't do much with video on Linux.
[09:25] <ubu-g> Totem is simply ...shit
[09:25] <anir> jordo23, do u use ubuntu?
[09:25] <self_>  mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[09:25] <ubu-g> get mplayer
[09:25] <evert> can somebody help me pls ? i'm having trouble installing nvidia drivers ... Could not compile gcc-version-check.c. that's a part of the error ...
[09:25] <jordo23> anir: Now I do....used to run Debian Sarge.
[09:25] <nox_ghost> I like gxine.
[09:25] <nox_ghost> or xine-ui
[09:26] <nox_ghost> evert, why the hell you want to compile it?
[09:26] <anir> jordo23, could u plz tell me is there more games available for kde than gnome.??
[09:26] <Atlas95> hello
[09:26] <ubu-g> bruv,,, gmplayer rock
[09:26] <evert> i don't wants to compile it ...
[09:26] <nox_ghost> evert, so why the hell you compile it?
[09:26] <Atlas95> i have a probleme with the install of gstreamer0.8-faac
[09:26] <blue-frog> evert, should try to use ubuntu nvidia drivers first
[09:26] <Linuturk_work> dpupp, Notebook, Integrated Graphics Chipset, has S-video out, LCD screen, and monitor out
[09:26] <nox_ghost> anir, no, that's not true
[09:26] <root___> i have a question does ubuntu stay more up2date on there packages than debian
[09:26] <evert> where can i find the ubuntu nvidia drivers ?
[09:26] <jordo23> anir: As long as you have both libraries installed, Gnome games should run under KDE and vice versa....so I don't think there is an answer for that.
[09:27] <thegladiator> who all likes robbie williams here ?
[09:27] <Atlas95> the install stay on  Paramtrage de gstreamer0.8-faac (0.8.11-0.1) ...
[09:27] <blue-frog> evert, on the cd
[09:27] <crimsun> thegladiator: -offtopic.
[09:27] <evert> i wanna have new drivers because i've very low fps in games (in windows i had GOOD fps )
[09:27] <thegladiator> sorry
[09:27] <ubu-g> we got star
[09:27] <Atlas95> i don't want this deb, i search how to cancel this install
[09:27] <dpupp> Linutirk_work, have you already installed the ati drivers?
[09:27] <blue-frog> evert, or at least in synaptic
[09:27] <shadox> can someone help me with this >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5932 << error??
[09:27] <dallows> ::::: How can I install GeoIP ?? :::::::
[09:27] <nox_ghost> evert, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[09:27] <Atlas95> because when i kill the prossess, next it say mis i must do : dpgk --configure -a
[09:27] <nox_ghost> evert, please, read the wiki before asking questions
[09:27] <Atlas95> and it retry to install this deb :(
[09:28] <anir> nox_ghost, but i belive the whole environment is different in kde compared to gnome .. right
[09:28] <anir> what does linspire use?
[09:28] <navyn> nevermind i figured out
[09:28] <nox_ghost> anir, No. KDE can use GTK, and GNOME can use QT. They both can run each other programs and games
[09:29] <shadox> nobody can help me? :(
[09:29] <self_> why do i have to be root to mount a floppy?
[09:29] <navyn> video quality has a lot of lines in it though
[09:29] <julien_> salut
[09:29] <nox_ghost> shadox, wait
[09:29] <thompsbm> are the ubuntu packages more up to date than debian?
[09:29] <ubu-g> anyone knows which wireless card works better with ubuntu breezy?
[09:29] <dallows> ::::: How can I install GeoIP ?? ::::::: Can anyone help me plz ?
[09:29] <shadox> nox_ghost oki :)
[09:29] <anir> nox_ghost, thats cool.. i am really new to the linux world.. so i wanna try for sometime..
[09:29] <nox_ghost> shadox, what does this script do?
[09:30] <nox_ghost> anir, try everything you can
[09:30] <robotgeek> ubu-g: the list is on the wiki, one sec
[09:30] <ubu-g> robotgeek: thankx dude
[09:30] <navyn> anybody use kino?
[09:31] <miguel_> hello
[09:31] <nox_ghost> anir, when you will become an experienced user, you will not have the desire to check out new stuff
[09:31] <shadox> nox_ghost, it should mount my win partitions
[09:31] <self_> It may sound stupid but i have samba working but my system will not mount a floppy..lol
[09:31] <ubu-g> theres so many card I don't know which one to choose
[09:31] <nox_ghost> shadox, why don't you mount it yourself?
[09:31] <robotgeek> ubu-g: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:31] <dpupp> where do i find the xorg.log file?
[09:31] <guptan> can somebody help me with Belkin USB WIFI adapter F5D7050
[09:31] <blue-frog> navyn, yes
[09:31] <ubu-g> but thanks anyway
[09:31] <nox_ghost> shadox, please give me the output of the following commands: "df -h", "sudo fdisk -l", "cat /etc/fstab", "cat /etc/mtab"
[09:31] <robotgeek> guptan: can you plug it in, and tell me the chipset. lspci -v
[09:31] <blue-frog> guptan, use ndiswrapper and windows driver for belkin usb
[09:31] <shadox> nox_ghost, because i can't :$
[09:32] <navyn> blue-frog,  how can i tune up the video in kino so there aren't so many lines and distortions?
[09:32] <navyn> i am using a dv camera, and it doesn't have these lines using adobe premiere in windows
[09:32] <shadox> nox_ghost, sudo in front of it?
[09:32] <thompsbm> are the ubuntu packages more up to date than debian?
[09:32] <guptan> blue-frog: 050d:7050
[09:32] <nox_ghost> shadox, only in front of the fdisk -l
[09:32] <nox_ghost> "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:33] <blue-frog> navyn, i don't know, have no lines and distorsion (or just a few but it's just a rendering problem, doesn't show on TV or in another player
[09:33] <nox_ghost> in the other commands, sudo will be useless
[09:33] <shadox> k
[09:33] <Linuturk_work> dpupp, you still here?
[09:33] <navyn> blue-frog, thanks, so how do i convert the video format to burn on dvd?
[09:33] <robotgeek> guptan: there are apparently two version of the card, one which works (or you can get it working) and the other which probably does not work
[09:33] <shadox> nox_ghost, can you make private converstation to paste the info?
[09:34] <robotgeek> guptan: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Belkin&zoek=brandname
[09:34] <nox_ghost> shadox, that is a long info. please paste it somewhere.. pastebin.com ?
[09:34] <blue-frog> navyn, in export i think, don't have kino handy on the pc am on right now
[09:34] <dpupp> yeah im still here.
[09:34] <navyn> blue-frog, yeah thats it
[09:34] <navyn> thanks
[09:34] <shadox> nox_ghost, ok will do :)
[09:35] <guptan> robotgeek, i used ndiswrapper -i and installed driver and when i do ndiswrapper -l it shows the driver, only problem is when i go to network config and try to give static ip kernel panic
[09:35] <thegladiator> does the default but torrent client work ?
[09:35] <benplaut> WHY, WHY, WHY can't breezy have xorg 6.9/7.0 :(
[09:35] <benplaut> i want my trackpoint support :(
[09:35] <blue-frog> guptan, did u sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[09:35] <benplaut> i want it NOW >:|
[09:35] <jenda> thegladiator: I think it does, but it only has one torrent at a time
[09:35] <robotgeek> guptan: no clue abt that, sorry
[09:35] <guptan> blue-frog, yes
[09:36] <thegladiator> thanks
[09:36] <{alejandro}> benplaut breezy will be usable in feb, I bet
[09:36] <scummbar> I've been searching in google but I don't find the way to share firefox's profile (in a linux box) with a firefox (in win). I want that my extensions and by personalized buttons and links appear in windows as well
[09:36] <benplaut> {alejandro}: dapper?
[09:36] <blue-frog> guptan, u gave ndiswrapper both sys and inf?
[09:36] <self_> Any one know how to mount a floppy in ubuntu?
[09:36] <{alejandro}> benplaut yeah, I meant dapper woops
[09:36] <shadox> nox_ghost got it right here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5933
[09:36] <guptan> blue-frog, no just inf only
[09:36] <self_> error is:Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[09:36] <thegladiator> do you use it jenda ?
[09:36] <guptan> blue-frog, do i need to give sys also?
[09:36] <nox_ghost> shadox, great. let me take a loog
[09:37] <nox_ghost> shadox, great. let me take a look
[09:37] <benplaut> i'm going to upgrade after 'flight' 3
[09:37] <benplaut> same as with breezy
[09:37] <pussfeller> guptan: im trying to get mine working too
[09:37] <thegladiator> guptan, hi
[09:37] <guptan> hi thegladiator
[09:37] <jenda> thegladiator: no. I use Azureus, but that is very resource-minching
[09:37] <blue-frog> guptan, u need to have sys in the folder where inf is when u ndiswrapper .../*.inf
[09:37] <nox_ghost> shadox, you have 2 NTFS partitions, am I right?
[09:37] <thegladiator> cool
[09:37] <pussfeller> how can I get a 2.6.13 kernel without having to compile it all myself
[09:37] <guptan> blue-frog, i had it, since I installed it from Belkin driver cd
[09:38] <thegladiator> from which part of ind ?
[09:38] <cjb> Hello, I have a stupid question.  How long after a package's upload is it available from us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:38] <guptan> thegladiator, kerala
[09:38] <scummbar> someone can install gnome-phone-manager in breezy? I can't, apt says me that libbtctl1 is not installed, broken package
[09:38] <cjb> (And, is there a mirror that would let me have it immediately?
[09:38] <thegladiator> cool me too
[09:38] <{alejandro}> pussfeller I suppose you could download the .deb from packages.breezy.com
[09:38] <ubu-g> when i type.. iwconfig i get eth1 instead of wlan0.. does it matter?
[09:38] <guptan> thegladiator, great
[09:38] <{alejandro}> err
[09:38] <nox_ghost> shadox, ?
[09:38] <{alejandro}> I meant packages.ubuntu.com
[09:38] <blue-frog> guptan, ok then, but then sry, my usb belkin didn't give me any problem with ndis
[09:38] <{alejandro}> I am losing it
[09:38] <shadox> nox_ghost yup
[09:38] <MrSunshi1e> ello, using ubuntu-server and trying to configure the network from tne /etc/network/interfaces and im failing misserbly .. tried the lines form (5) interfaces but they dont help :>
[09:38] <thegladiator> are you using ubuntu for the first time ?
[09:38] <tunads> hi im a newbie and need some help updating firefox
[09:38] <MrSunshi1e> and im not in X so its kinda hard to check pages :>
[09:39] <vininim> Anyone tried playing with xorg-cvs+mesa-cvs+dri-cvs ?
[09:39] <funkyHat> I just put a hard drive in a removable drive bay (while the computer was on), how do I access the drive? It should be hdd, but I can't mount or use fdisk...
[09:39] <guptan> blue-frog, what shud be the /etc/network/interfaces config?
[09:39] <shadox> nox_ghost, sry i did answer a bit late :$  girlfriend ;) :)
[09:39] <jahshua> can anyone tell me how to disable ipv6 in kde ?
[09:39] <guptan> thegladiator, no - right from warty i'm here
[09:39] <nox_ghost> shadox, okay.. they are both mounted by default @ /media/hda1, /media/hda5
[09:39] <sethk> funkyHat, there may not be hotplug support enabled for that type of device.
[09:39] <blue-frog> guptan, does it show in system>administration>network?
[09:39] <sethk> funkyHat, most likely there is not
[09:39] <shadox> nox_ghost uhu
[09:39] <thegladiator> hi shadox hows it going in belium, ?
[09:40] <funkyHat> sethk, so how can i 'detect' it manually?
[09:40] <thegladiator> guptan, nice are you using from home ? now in kerala ?
[09:40] <shadox> thegladiator, atm it's evening 22:00 and 2C
[09:40] <guptan> blue-frog, yes it does, but DHCP set up is not working, so I was trying to put static ip and kernel panics
[09:40] <sethk> funkyHat, you can't.   you have to configure hotplug support for it.
[09:40] <guptan> thegladiator, no i'm now in dubai
[09:40] <thegladiator> 2 is better :d
[09:40] <robotgeek> guptan: kerala, awesome dude
[09:40] <nox_ghost> shadox, please write the following command: "ln -s /media/hda1 ~/Desktop/Win1; ln -s /media/hda5 ~/Desktop/Win2;"
[09:40] <guptan> robotgeek, :)
[09:40] <shadox> thegladiator, how is euhm ... where are U from again? :D
[09:40] <UbuntuRob> what programming language(s) is/are the most built into Linux???
[09:40] <evert> hello , i followed the wiki , but i don't want that old driver (with them i have got really bad fps  in games) ... so what to do? installing newer drivers gives errors
[09:41] <nox_ghost> shadox, it will create 2 links (aka shortcuts in windoze) on your desktop.
[09:41] <funkyHat> sethk, can you help me with that?
[09:41] <Chousuke> UbuntuRob: C, C++, Perl, Python.
[09:41] <UbuntuRob> ok, Thanks Chousuke!!!
[09:41] <shadox> nox_ghost .... :$:s
[09:41] <thegladiator> india , is 1:30 am , 30 degrees
[09:41] <Chousuke> UbuntuRob: Those are probably most common.
[09:41] <nox_ghost> Perl is the best programming language ever
[09:41] <sethk> UbuntuRob, that really is not a sensible question.  Much of the o/s is written in C, but many languages are supported
[09:41] <sethk> nox_ghost, you can't really believe that.
[09:41] <thegladiator> python>perl
[09:41] <Chousuke> Please, no flamewars now ;P
[09:42] <thegladiator> guptan, avide enthu cheyunnu ? joliyano ? atho padikunno ?
[09:42] <nox_ghost> thegladiator, yeah right.. and you probably think that windoze>linux, right?
[09:42] <tunads> can anyone help me update firefox; i have no idea what im doing
[09:42] <guptan> thegladiator, are u logged from kerala now?
[09:42] <shadox> nox_ghost, ";" at the end?
[09:42] <nox_ghost> http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/ -----------> Learn Perl !!!
[09:42] <thegladiator> untrue
[09:42] <nox_ghost> shadox, yeap. it is a command seperator
[09:42] <thegladiator> guptan, yes
[09:42] <Chousuke> I've tried both python and perl
[09:42] <shadox> nox_ghost i did
[09:42] <robotgeek> !offtopic
[09:42] <robotgeek> damn, no bot
[09:42] <crimsun> repeat after me: this is offtopic.
[09:42] <nox_ghost> shadox, great. now check your desktop for the links
[09:43] <shadox> nox_ghost does it mean my win files are know availeble on linux?
[09:43] <jahshua> nox ghost look here
[09:43] <jahshua> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[09:43] <UbuntuRob> I am thinking about getting into Perl
[09:43] <nox_ghost> shadox, yeah, they are. but you can't write to that partition. it is dangerous.
[09:43] <shadox> nox_ghost, yes 2 links
[09:43] <dell500> anyone know how to get a raid0 sata (2 120gb) device to work in windows and be read for itunes?? :)
[09:43] <nox_ghost> shadox, great, enjoy
[09:43] <mifritscher-> hi
[09:43] <shadox> nox_ghost
[09:43] <nox_ghost> jahshua, good to know
[09:43] <evert> hello , i followed the wiki , but i don't want that old driver (with them i have got really bad fps  in games) ... so what to do? installing newer drivers gives errors
[09:43] <nox_ghost> shadox, ?
[09:43] <mifritscher-> why is ioctl so slow during booting?
[09:43] <thegladiator> albacker, ji
[09:44] <thegladiator> albacker, hi
[09:44] <blue-frog> guptan, sudo ndiswrapper -m  and reboot to see if u still have a kernel panic afterwards..
[09:44] <shadox> nox_ghost, is doens't work :s
[09:44] <shadox> nox_ghost, getting the same error
[09:44] <Killer_Smurf> Ok.   I have issues.  I was asking about adding memory to a laptop.  Everyone has said that I could just add it but when I do my lappy won't boot.  I was told everything from the memory is bad to I didn't install it right.  I was also told that this was not an ubuntu or linux issue.  So I tried adding the mem and booting from a live cd.  No problems which means that it is an issue with ubuntu.  It must have something to do with
[09:44] <Killer_Smurf>  the acpi modules since thats where it freezes.  Any ideas?
[09:44] <pussfeller> if I install a dapper kernel, is it going to mess things up in breezy
[09:44] <thegladiator> guptan, do you get my message ? private message ?
[09:44] <nox_ghost> shadox, when in linux "doesn't work" is not a description of a problem.
[09:44] <albacker> thegladiator, hi.. howr you ?
[09:44] <tylo_> Hello all. Does anyone know how to install a plugin to Rhythmbox?
[09:44] <nox_ghost> shadox, I need errors, logs and status
[09:44] <mifritscher-> Killer_Smurf, what do memtest say?
[09:44] <thegladiator> albacker, i am doing fine thanks and you ?
[09:45] <guptan> blue-frog, so i have to do sudo ndiswrapper -m and after reboot sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[09:45] <Killer_Smurf> says that the mem is good
[09:45] <shadox> nox_ghost  i know i know, but i'm working in dutch , translation isn't that easy :$
[09:45] <guptan> thegladiator, no
[09:45] <mifritscher-> try noacpi?
[09:45] <albacker> thegladiator, good too
[09:45] <blue-frog> evert, what's your card?
[09:45] <Killer_Smurf> in grub....
[09:45] <mifritscher-> yes
[09:45] <shadox> nox_ghost, it sais, i don't have any rights to view the content of the map
[09:46] <blue-frog> guptan, no -m mkes an alias, it will be loaded on boot
[09:46] <thegladiator> guptan, i am sending pm but seems like there is some glitch
[09:46] <Killer_Smurf> I'll try no acpi and let you know... thanks...
[09:46] <MrSunshi1e> is there any console based apt interface?
[09:46] <mifritscher-> aptitude?
[09:46] <mifritscher-> ;)
[09:46] <guptan> pussfeller, i'm running drapper now, Belkin USB WIFI not working for me ;)
[09:46] <ofer0> shadox, so please, try and traslate the error you get
[09:46] <evert> 6800gt
[09:46] <mifritscher-> dselect?
[09:46] <thegladiator> guptan, are you under a firewall ?
[09:46] <shadox> ofer0 i just did :)
[09:46] <ofer0> shadox, oh yeah
[09:46] <guptan> thegladiator, yes windows firewall
[09:46] <evert> in windows i had avarage fps of 70+ , now i'm just getting 10-30 ... that's much to low :(
[09:47] <funkyHat> :S
[09:47] <ofer0> shadox, hmm.. please "ls -l /media" and give me the output
[09:47] <shadox> ofer0 k
[09:47] <guptan> blue-frog, okay it makes alias to wlan0 right? what shud i do next
[09:47] <self_> ok so i have found it myself command is:sudo mount /dev/fd0
[09:47] <blue-frog> evert, if u wnat to compile u need build-essential and gcc3.4, you will need to export gcc3.4 as well before compiling.
[09:47] <thegladiator> guptan, i see...its ok .  i have to push off..pinne kanam
[09:47] <pussfeller> guptan: the driver in the kernel is rt2500 (at least in 2.6.12 kernel) and you need the rt2700 or 2x00 series for using usb
[09:47] <ofer0> evert, what are you running?
[09:47] <MrSunshi1e> humm, no teamspeak server?
[09:47] <blue-frog> guptan, try to reboot and see if u still have a kernel panic afterwrds, afraid i won't be of much help...
[09:48] <shadox> ofer0 where do i paste this info? in pastebin?
[09:48] <ofer0> shadox, you can do it in PM
[09:48] <tylo_> Hello all. Does anyone know how to install a plugin to Rhythmbox?
[09:48] <guptan> blue-frog, it is okay, thanks for your inputs
[09:48] <evert> no i don't want to compile a thing ... i went to the console (control alt F1) and than i dit all the commands you guys gave to me for installing the drivers , than i come into the nvidia driver menu and than it says something about missing things and compiling
[09:48] <thegladiator> by anychance could the default bittorrent client be slow ?
[09:48] <ofer0> BTW, if someone wants the latest 2.6.14.4 kernel, I wrote a script for that @ http://ilunix.org/scripts/CompileKernel26144.sh
[09:49] <welp> HI ubu-g!
[09:49] <thegladiator> is the settings meant to offer a slower connection compared to the other btt clients ?
[09:49] <evert> i'm running ubuntu 5.1
[09:49] <shadox> ofer0 eurhm how do i open a pm?
[09:49] <ofer0> shadox, which client you are using?
[09:49] <shadox> xchat
[09:49] <ofer0> shadox, /dialog ofer0
[09:50] <kostja> hi!
[09:50] <thegladiator> !hi
[09:50] <ofer0> kostja, hi.
[09:50] <ofer0> thegladiator, print "Hi!\n"; for you..
[09:51] <shadox> ofer0 did you receive my msg in pm?
[09:51] <ofer0> shadox, no, I didn't. you have to register for that.
[09:51] <ofer0> shadox, unregistered users cannot send pms
[09:51] <shadox> ofer0 register?
[09:51] <funkyHat> /ns help
[09:52] <shadox> ofer0 then i'll pastebin
[09:52] <ofer0> /msg nickserv register <PASS>
[09:52] <ofer0> then /msg nickserv identify <PASS>
[09:52] <shadox> ofer0 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5934
[09:52] <ofer0> and youre okay
[09:52] <evert> nobody ?
[09:53] <Mortis_kruul> Hi all! Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :)
[09:53] <ofer0> shadox, please try "sudo chmod 755 /media/hda*". if there is an error message, please give it to me
[09:53] <davro> hi i stupidly chmod 755 /etc/sudoers to edit it, after finding out about visudo, now everytime i try to sudo anything it stops and shows /etc/sudoers is more 0755, should be 0440, i have tryed to sudo chmod 440 it back but sudo fails ... any ideas
[09:53] <shadox> ofer0 k
[09:54] <ofer0> davro, pretty stupid what you have done. especially when it says: # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[09:54] <shadox> ofer0 i'll paste it here
[09:54] <shadox> ofer0 : sudo chmod 755 /media/hda
[09:54] <davro> ofer0, yup cheers for the help =>
[09:54] <ofer0> shadox, sudo chmod 755 /media/hda*
[09:54] <Kuyaedz> earlier someone mentioned installing ubuntu-usplash to remove the kubuntu splash I have.  I can't find that package...
[09:54] <shadox> ofer0 hmm doesn't seem to work, wait a minute, pastebin
[09:54] <HappyFool> davro: rebot in recovery mode
[09:54] <ofer0> shadox, watch the *
[09:54] <HappyFool> reboot, even
[09:55] <HappyFool> davro: you will be root, and can chmod it back without sudo
[09:55] <ofer0> davro, start the computer with a livecd, and change the file's permissions
[09:55] <davro> HappyFool, yup cheers !
[09:55] <shadox> ofer0 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5935
[09:55] <crimsun> Kuyaedz: just remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash, then dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:55] <ofer0> shadox, what's that: Alleen-lezen bestandssysteem ?
[09:56] <evert> alleen lezen => only read
[09:56] <ofer0> shadox, maybe it means "read only file-system" ?
[09:56] <Kuyaedz> crimsun: kubuntu-artwork-usplash shows as not installed but it displays that at boot..
[09:57] <shadox> ofer0 yes
[09:57] <ofer0> oh, okay
[09:57] <crimsun> Kuyaedz: then dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:57] <evert> can somebody help me with my driver problem ?
[09:57] <ofer0> shadox, you will have to remount it. please wait a second.
[09:57] <shadox> ofer0 ok will do :)
[09:57] <cousin> kann jemand deutsch ?
[09:57] <RancidLM> hey guys.. my Root history just cleared its self as if it was history -c  or the .bash_history was removed.. does this auto clear after a certian amount of commands OR time for that matter..aka afew months?
[09:59] <Kuyaedz> can someone tell me a command to get basic system specs?  (ie; processor, RAM, etc)
[09:59] <sethk> RancidLM, no.  the only time I've seen that is when the history file is corrupted
[09:59] <ofer0> Kuyaedz, lshw ?
[09:59] <Killer_Smurf> Ok I tried with noapic (which took care of the apic error I was getting) but noacpi did nothing.  It still tried to load acpi modules and froze.
[10:00] <RancidLM> sethk: ok thnx.. i had to do some strange compiling the other day to get gtkpod going probly mucked something up
[10:00] <TheG> Hi! I've got a question... does Ubuntu bring a Bootmanager? I have Windows on my primary Disk and i'd like to use it sometimes after installing Ubuntu
[10:00] <_willcooke_> Hey abarbaccia, are you the guy that wrote the mythtv pages?
[10:00] <sethk> TheG, it installs the boot manager automatically if windows is on the disk
[10:00] <HappyFool> Killer_Smurf: fwiw i'm use pci=noacpi   (not just 'noacpi). I don't know if they're any different, though
[10:01] <sethk> TheG, actually it installs it automatically no matter what.  It adds windows to the menu automatically if windows is there.
[10:01] <Killer_Smurf> k I'll try that happt... thanks
[10:02] <TheG> great... thx...  is it a problem if I install Ubuntu on the Primary Slave disk?
[10:03] <eobanb> TheG, shouldn't be a problem.  i assume you have two disks then?
[10:03] <davro> ls
[10:03] <TheG> all in all i have 5 disks...
[10:04] <funkyHat> TheG, you might have to tell grub to install on hda.... I can't remember
[10:05] <eobanb> TheG, if you have two or more disks and you want to dual-boot, you're basically going to have to set your BIOS to boot from the disk on which ubuntu is installed.  that will start grub, the bootloader, which can be loaded in the MBR, and from there you can start any other OS, like windows, even if it's on a different disk.
[10:06] <TheG> ok... I'll try it... if there are problems i'll be back soon
[10:06] <eobanb> TheG, you should be pretty safe regardless...if worst comes to worst you can just switch your BIOS to boot from the disk that has windows on it again.
[10:06] <self_> lol..ok so how do you sudo unmount the floppy
[10:06] <self_> unmount is not a command so it says
[10:07] <NCLife> is it very risky to enable DMA on my comp? my dvd playback is jerky but, but im not sure if i should enable DMA cuz of the warning on the wiki about DMA :P
[10:07] <shadox> thegladiator, can you help me with my partitions i try to mount them, i can see the icons on my desktop but i can't open them "read only ..."
[10:07] <eobanb> self_, the command is umount
[10:07] <self_> ah
[10:07] <bob832> hi there...working on getting my ati card to work...found a how-to in the forums, but was wondering, is there a way to install the drivers w/o uninstalling the restricted-modules (in my case needed by ndiswrapper)?
[10:08] <self_> well i am learning..lol
[10:08] <self_> i think i need to learn a few commands
[10:08] <self_> lol
[10:09] <oxigen> when will be out new Ubuntu, anyone?
[10:09] <self_> i still do not understand why i have to be root to mount and unmount floppys
[10:09] <TTilus> self_: go for debian tutorials, ubuntu is a kind of debian u see
[10:09] <shutdownrunner> self_: you have to edit /etc/fstab and add user to parameters
[10:10] <blue-frog> oxigen, in april
[10:10] <oxigen> anyone?
[10:10] <oxigen> thanks!
[10:10] <shutdownrunner> self_:also as root do chmod ugo+rw [mount point] 
[10:10] <TTilus> oxigen: twice per year, steady cycle
[10:10] <Crispness> mmmm Dapper goatfood is good
[10:11] <self_> ok ill have a look at etc
[10:12] <dooglus> self_: if you use the word "user" in the fstab entry you will be able to mount and umount as a regular user
[10:12] <self_> ok .. why is this not set as standard?
[10:12] <Madeye> anyone using Toshiba laptop ? I just installed ubuntu on toshiba laptop, everything worked out of the box, but I want to enable Bluetooth, irda and FN keys.. any idea?
[10:12] <shutdownrunner> self_:just because
[10:13] <self_> it causes real problems for some users that have little experiance
[10:13] <dooglus> self_: I would have thought floppy disks should be automatically mounted when you put them in, ideally.  I don't have a floppy drive, so I can't tell.
[10:13] <self_> weel they do not mount in breezy
[10:14] <shutdownrunner> dooglus:under gnome you just double click floppy disk icon and it's mounted
[10:14] <self_> unless you are root
[10:14] <dooglus> shutdownrunner: you don't have to be root to mount it then?  self_ is telling fibs?
[10:15] <bob832> Madeye:  i don't have a toshiba laptop but you may want to check www.linux-laptop.net
[10:15] <self_> if you use the places on the tool bar and click floppy it does not mount as user
[10:15] <Madeye> bob832, I've checked all wikis, forums posts about toshiba laptops, and almost all similar requirements posts
[10:16] <self_> it mounts only as sudo mount
[10:16] <tylo_> Hello all. Does anyone know how to install a plugin to Rhythmbox?
[10:16] <dooglus> since upgrading to breezy, my external monitor keeps going all black for a second every 5 seconds.  I used my old breezy xorg.conf which worked fine for breezy.  Is it possible the monitor timings need updating or something?
[10:17] <self_> i have made a launcher to do this now but i will edit etc
[10:18] <bob832> Madeye:  oh
[10:19] <bob832> Madeye:  stick around, someone might be able to help
[10:20] <Madeye> bob832,  indeed, I have to keep looking for someone
[10:21] <GudBau> hello
[10:21] <GudBau> :(
[10:21] <GudBau> apt-get install rosegarden4
[10:21] <GudBau> Sono occorsi degli errori processando:
[10:21] <GudBau>  lilypond-data
[10:21] <GudBau> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:21] <kemik> GudBau:  sudo ?
[10:22] <GudBau> no, root
[10:22] <self_> lol... where can i find fstab in breezy?
[10:22] <eobanb> /etc/fstab
[10:23] <GudBau> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:24] <self_> lol.. i do not have fstab in etc
[10:24] <GudBau> apt-get install muse
[10:24] <GudBau> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:24] <GudBau> apt-get install rosegarden print the same error
[10:24] <tylo_> Hello all. Does anyone know how to install a plugin to Rhythmbox? Specifically the audioscrobbler for last.fm.
[10:25] <slew> how hard is it to uninstall a program i installed from source?
[10:25] <GudBau> apt-get install jack, apt-get install rosegarden, apt-get install muse,
[10:25] <_jason> slew, how did you install it?  with make install?
[10:25] <GudBau> all print tha same error
[10:26] <slew> _jason-> its just the inifinity plugin for xmms, yah, make install.
[10:26] <_jason> slew, you can try make uninstall I suppose
[10:26] <dallows> I have problem with verlihub
[10:26] <slew> ok cool thanks
[10:26] <dallows> Compile someone verlihub in here ?
[10:26] <soundray> Madeye, checkout the fnfxd package for keys (if you haven't already)
[10:27] <self_> ok ... i have founf fstab
[10:27] <_jason> slew, It's strange cus I just asked that same exact question (but asked what to do if there was no make unisntall)
[10:27] <self_> found
[10:27] <jenda> hey... my gnome panel has autohidden, but won't come back up
[10:27] <self_> this is the line:/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[10:27] <slew> _jason-> what was the answer?
[10:27] <_jason> slew, I didn't get one :)
[10:27] <self_> where do i add user?
[10:28] <slew> =[ sorry
[10:28] <Madeye> soundray,  yeah, I'm downloading it, I've apted toshset, but when trying to run it I get required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[10:28] <Madeye> any idea?
[10:28] <_jason> self_, system -> prefs -> users and groups
[10:28] <Thorondor> system -> administration -> users and groups
[10:28] <maximumbob> I use apt-get to get vsftpd running, and it runs... but on login I get a "vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp"
[10:28] <dooglus> it turns out my external monitor doesn't go black regularly - it goes black for a second whenever the display changes.
[10:28] <dooglus> what might cause that?
[10:28] <_jason> self_, sorry not prefs, admin
[10:28] <soundray> Madeye, there is also a package called toshutils in Debian
[10:28] <Papageno> I installed jdk1.5 update 6 using java-package. java -version works and all. I exported JDK_HOME and I tried running IntelliJ IDEA but it gives me a NoClassDefFoundError when I try and run idea.sh. Anyone know how to fix this?
[10:29] <Tom39|ubuntu> Any ideas for helping me mount this drive?  -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=588857&posted=1#post588857
[10:30] <maximumbob> I use apt-get to get vsftpd running, and it runs... but on login I get a "vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp" -- any ideas?
[10:30] <jenda> Can anyone tell me how to make my gnome panel (set to autohide) reappear? It refuses to work as it should
[10:30] <self_> well it says that i can use floppys in admin already ..but it will not let me mount as user
[10:30] <Madeye> soundray, yeah, it's installed toshutiles and toshset, but whenever I want to run it or one of it's associated apps I get "required kernel toshiba support not enabled." without telling me whats the required module
[10:31] <tylo_> Hello all. Does anyone know how to install a plugin to Rhythmbox? Specifically the audioscrobbler for last.fm.
[10:31] <navyn> I am using kino to transfer video from my dv camera.  video quality transfers fine using adobe premiere in windows, but kino, the video is distored with alot of lines through the video.  any suggestions?
[10:31] <slew> you guys think bsd users look down on linux users, the way we look down on windows users?
[10:31] <soundray> Madeye, have you checked whether there is a module (or source for it) in the toshset package?
[10:32] <Madeye> soundray, is there a different if I apted it or compile it from source?
[10:32] <maximumbob> I use apt-get to get vsftpd running, and it runs... but on login I get a "vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp" -- any ideas?
[10:32] <soundray> Madeye, I don't know, I'm sort of trying to help generically, since no one else here seems to have set up a Toshiba laptop.
[10:33] <theCore> slew, no, the gap between BSD and Linux isn't large as the one between windows and Linux
[10:33] <CarlF1> what is the ... um.. Ubuntu version of http://userful.com/products/free-2-user ? (as in, you can do this without there product using the Ubuntu CD... and it has a name...)
[10:33] <Madeye> soundray, yeah I know, thank you.
[10:34] <shutdownrunner> dooglus:if there's user parameter, then you don't have to be root to mount floppies
[10:34] <maximumbob> I use apt-get to get vsftpd running, and it runs... but on login I get a "vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp" -- any ideas?
[10:34] <soundray> Madeye, have you looked at tuxmobil.de for an installation report on your particular laptop model?
[10:34] <moox> hi there. I saw pictures from Ubuntu dapper flight2, some of them are amazing ! Is the ctrl+f search into nautilus find trough beagle ?
[10:35] <slew> theCore -> thanks
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Is Rhapsody available for Linux?
[10:35] <kemik> !backports
[10:35] <Madeye> soundray,  yeah, but actually i'm facing different problems, and the weird is all hard to configure like acpi/pcmia/sound/wlan etc. worked out of the box
[10:36] <Madeye> soundray, the troubles i'm facing in enabling features and devices nothing else. the system running more than smoothly
[10:36] <GURT> i wish Grip would fix it's freedb submit/catagory bug
[10:36] <gusaweb> hello
[10:37] <tylo_> Hello all. Does anyone know how to install a plugin to Rhythmbox? Specifically the audioscrobbler for last.fm.
[10:38] <gusaweb> does anyone know how to configure X to make an ATI IGP 320M work?
[10:38] <chashama> Hello - Any ideas on what to do if an upgrade to Breezy Badger halts on libc6.postinst?
[10:38] <Nomikos> i have to HFS+ partitions that every so often refuse to mount anything but read-only, even though i'm using "defaults" in the /etc/fstab. suggestions? could this be powerdown-reboot related?
[10:38] <soundray> Madeye, I've set up a number of laptops with Linux, and there is always something that doesn't work. I wish there was an enlightened vendor that publishes all specs.
[10:38] <Nomikos> to = two :/
[10:38] <soundray> tonyyarusso, check freshmeat.net
[10:39] <Killer_Smurf> I found out that my memory issues stem from the acpi for sure.  When I disable acpi I can get the lappy to boot BUT then I lose my wife and sound..... anything else I can do?
[10:39] <Killer_Smurf> wifi not wife
[10:39] <gusaweb> :d
[10:39] <ElitePete> Killer_Smurf, sounds like she is cheating on ya
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> soundray, okay.
[10:39] <Killer_Smurf> lol
[10:40] <Madeye> soundray, heh actually I struggling to get all features/devices working just because all of my colleagues getting crazy because i installed linux on this 'fancy laptop' LOL so I want to show them that it worth it, else I don't use bluetooth and I don't care about FN keys
[10:40] <mifritscher-> Killer_Smurf, does a BIOS update help?
[10:40] <benplaut> anyone here using dapper?
[10:40] <gusaweb> breezy will never die !
[10:40] <Killer_Smurf> mifrit.... checked and no updates on site
[10:40] <mifritscher-> kk...
[10:41] <soundray> Madeye, :)
[10:41] <dooglus> gusaweb: it only has another 16 months of support left...  :)
[10:41] <chashama> I would like to be using the undying breezy but my upgrade is halting on libc6.postinst.
[10:41] <mifritscher-> perhaps you can add dabug-code in the acpi-driver and look what happen
[10:41] <gusaweb> :)
[10:41] <mrproper> When I run /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh it makes it impossible to run any programs
[10:41] <mifritscher-> (but do not aks me how ;) )
[10:42] <ElitePete> puffin on a fat blunt wahhahah!
[10:42] <Killer_Smurf> mifritscher or I can just reinstall over christmas....  I know I won't have this issue if I install from scratch......
[10:42] <soundray> Madeye, apparently Bluetooth support in Gnome/Breezy is still rudimentary. Perhaps you'll get a better result with Dapper, once it matures a bit.
[10:42] <mevvis> helo
[10:43] <mifritscher-> soundray, on my HP mnibook 6000 all things are working with knoppix...
[10:43] <mevvis> maby someone using xpde on ubuntu?
[10:43] <soundray> mifritscher-, excellent - how recent is the 6000?
[10:43] <mifritscher-> from 2001 ;)
[10:43] <ElitePete> mifritscher-, obviously thats why
[10:43] <soundray> mifritscher-, okay...
[10:44] <mifritscher-> Pentium 600 and mach64 compatible GPU ;)
[10:44] <mevvis> QQQ: maby someone using xpde on ubuntu?
[10:44] <GudBau> io possible tu set apt
[10:44] <GudBau> for automatic dependency resolution?
[10:44] <soundray> mifritscher-, I was toying with the idea of buying HP's nx6125 for my wife. It seems to have reasonable support.
[10:44] <mmarle> #edubuntu
[10:45] <mmarle> #ebuntu
[10:45] <Nomikos> anyone running Ubuntu on PPC, mounting HFS+ partitions?
[10:45] <soundray> Nomikos, I've tried it, but I've never had the problem you described.
[10:45] <self_> windows partitions?
[10:46] <Nomikos> self_: nah, OS X
[10:46] <gneale_> : where does everybody store their contact info; friend's mailing addresses, phone number, emails, etc?
[10:46] <self_> ah
[10:46] <mifritscher-> ~/tele.txt ;)
[10:46] <Nomikos> soundray: do you know of a safe way to check for errors on hfs+ disks from Ubuntu?
[10:47] <self_> osx is new to me what is it?
[10:47] <soundray> Nomikos, no, sorry.
[10:47] <gneale_> mifritscher-, cute...I hope there's a more standard way though...
[10:47] <mifritscher-> MacOS X
[10:47] <Nomikos> gneale_: OpenOffice has a nice wizard for creating contact databases, maybe try that?
[10:47] <GudBau> Is possible configura apt for automatic dependecy installations?
[10:47] <navyn> anybody here use kino?
[10:47] <mevvis> self_ is a macintosh OS
[10:47] <mifritscher-> gneale, or I use the icq-server for that...
[10:47] <soundray> Nomikos, one thing you could check is whether the module loading registers any errors in /var/log/syslog
[10:47] <self_> i see
[10:48] <Nomikos> soundray: thanks, checking
[10:48] <self_> i have only mounted win partitions
[10:48] <dooglus> is there a program that helps with finding my monitor settings?
[10:48] <soundray> Nomikos, remind me what module loads Macintosh disklabel (partition table) support?
[10:49] <eobanb> dooglus; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:49] <Nomikos> soundray: uh... *throws up hands*
[10:49] <Nomikos> soundray: sorry :-) i just do webdev stuff :-)
[10:49] <eobanb> soundray, that should be part of hfstools or whatever
[10:49] <soundray> Nomikos, never mind, I'll check the web.
[10:49] <eobanb> or hfsplus
[10:49] <soundray> eobanb, no, I happen to remember that it's in the standard kernel
[10:50] <Madeye> guys if I want to recompile/reconfigure kernel with custom module, how to pass the new module name to the CMD ?
[10:50] <dooglus> eobanb: I tried that, but it only detects my laptop's built-in monitor, not the external one
[10:50] <dooglus> eobanb: I run a dual-head setup
[10:50] <eobanb> soundray, in my experience i've just been able to mount hfs disks and they appear named as they do in mac os
[10:50] <chashama> gneale_: Contact info can be stored in a GMail account
[10:51] <gneale_> Chadza, in what format can you export it?
[10:51] <eobanb> dooglus, you'll probably need to check what your video chip is and add the entry yourself in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:51] <soundray> eobanb, even on disks that were partitioned with the Mac OS X disk tool?
[10:51] <dooglus> eobanb: I know the chip's name, but how do I go from that to the bunch of numbers that xorg.conf needs?
[10:51] <eobanb> and you'll probably also want something like xinerama for desktop-stretching
[10:52] <dooglus> eobanb: it's an SiS 650
[10:52] <eobanb> soundray, i believe so, yes.  if they are hfs.
[10:52] <navyn> any there any sources to install cinellera?
[10:52] <gneale_> organizing contact info is so fregmented and non-standard...I wonder why??? Visions of M$ master plan flash before my eyes.
[10:52] <dooglus> eobanb: according to "lspci" it's: "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter"
[10:52] <gusaweb> does anyone know how to configure X for a radeon IGP 320M(U1)?
[10:52] <eobanb> what resolution are you intending to run, dooglus
[10:52] <eobanb> on the external display
[10:53] <dooglus> eobanb: they're both LCD displays.  the internal is 1024x768 and the external is 1280x1024
[10:53] <eobanb> okay
[10:53] <eobanb> as far as i know, dooglus, xorg's support for sis is fairly complete
[10:53] <dooglus> eobanb: it was fine in breezy
[10:54] <dooglus> eobanb: but the same xorg.conf doesn't want to play nicely with dapper
[10:54] <eobanb> ohh.
[10:54] <eobanb> you should have mentioned you were using dapper....
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> What's the two-letter command for viewing how much of a partition is used again?
[10:54] <Thorondor> df -h
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> Thorondor, Thanks.
[10:55] <eobanb> dooglus, can you paste your xorg.conf in pastebin or something
[10:55] <basstard81> hi
[10:55] <Thorondor> hi bassMonk1y
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> Thorondor, Do you know what it stands for, to help me remember?
[10:55] <basstard81> okay an englis hforum
[10:55] <Thorondor> disk free? dunno exactly
[10:55] <Thorondor> -h is for human readable
[10:55] <eobanb> the -h flag means human readable
[10:55] <eobanb> yes
[10:55] <eobanb> as in MB and GB instead of bytes
[10:55] <eobanb> or blocks
[10:55] <eobanb> whatever it is
[10:55] <dooglus> eobanb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5937
[10:55] <Thorondor> eoband, i think default is blocks
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> Thorondor and eobanb: Thanks.
[10:56] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you ever wonder about a flag (like -h) for a command, look in the manual.  type "man df" in a terminal.  it will tell you about all the flags.
[10:56] <tylo_> I figured out how to install the Rhythmbox plugin rbscrobbler thanks for the Ubuntu forums. Thanks anyway everyone.
[10:56] <Nomikos> soundray: think i found it, "Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended.  mounting read-only"
[10:57] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: for example, the manual page says this about -h:
[10:57] <dooglus>        -h, --human-readable
[10:57] <dooglus>               print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)
[10:57] <tylo_> have a good one
[10:57] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: that's telling you that "df --human-readable" does the same as "df -h"
[10:57] <eobanb> dooglus, well i dont see really anything obviously wrong here...it's very possibly just a bug in dapper
[10:58] <soundray> Nomikos, why didn't it unmount cleanly though?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Right.  The hard part is getting the command in the first place.
[10:58] <dooglus> eobanb: maybe.  although I do remember now that to get it working properly in breezy I had to go to the homepage of the guy who wrote the sis driver for x.org and get his latest sis driver from there.  maybe I need to do the same again.
[10:58] <Nomikos> soundray: probably something to do with the way i last shut it down... :-/
[10:58] <eobanb> ah, well you should have mentioned that too :P
[10:58] <soundray> Nomikos, perhaps it choked on a sleep cycle? Or did you force a shutdown?
[10:58] <eobanb> dooglus, i'd try that then
[10:58] <soundray> Nomikos, okay.
[10:58] <toya_> hi people
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Any trick for that?
[10:58] <diubidone> hey what a good dvd ripper for ubuntu?
[10:59] <toya_> i got a linux question regarding user passwords
[10:59] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you're wondering what command tells you about disk space, you can run "man -k space" and it will tell you all the commands to do with 'space'
[10:59] <soundray> Nomikos, be gentle with your Mac, shut it down carefully ;)
[10:59] <Nomikos> soundray: the latter. I'm used to Macs taking abuse and not complaining.. but yeah, my own fault
[10:59] <eobanb> toya_, sure, what's the question?
[10:59] <noplease> knows anyone tool for avi2mpeg?
[10:59] <toya_> eobanb, i tried passwd -d user
[10:59] <Nomikos> soundray: will from now on :-) it's on all the time usually.. but i was tired and pissed off and drunk :-p
[11:00] <trappist> Nomikos: mencoder
[11:00] <toya_> eobanb, that didn't remove the password
[11:00] <diubidone> hey what a good dvd ripper for ubuntu?
[11:00] <soundray> Nomikos, this certainly isn't the behaviour I've come to expect of Linux though...
[11:00] <dooglus> trappist: do you still maintain ipkungfu?
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Sweet.  And I suppose I can get other stuff like that in "man man", eh?
[11:00] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: for sure
[11:00] <soundray> Nomikos, if it encounters an ext2/3 fs with a dirty flag, it'll just check it...
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Thanks.
[11:00] <eobanb> toya_, i'm not familiar with the -d flag
[11:00] <soundray> Nomikos, not faff around with ro mounting.
[11:00] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: man pages generally aren't for reading though - they're for searching through.  after typing "man fg" you can type "/" to search.  type "/-h" and hit return to search for "-h"
[11:01] <toya_> eobanb, it is suppose to remove the password
[11:01] <toya_> eobanb, i want to make a user without any password
[11:01] <soundray> Nomikos, well, in any case, test your blood alcohol next time before you drive your Mac :)
[11:01] <Nomikos> soundray: but these aren't ext2/3? hfs+ is different, no?
[11:01] <soundray> Nomikos, yes but still.
[11:01] <dooglus> toya_: "passwd -d user" will remove user's password
[11:01] <self_> ok.... thanks for the help catch you later..;-)
[11:02] <abarbaccia> hey all - anybody here actually use ubuntu's installed to format LVM?
[11:02] <eobanb> dooglus, toya_ tried that
[11:02] <dooglus> toya_: what makes you think it hasn't?  does "su user" not get you straight into user's account after that?
[11:02] <toya_> no
[11:02] <toya_> it asks for password
[11:02] <eobanb> well what does it say?
[11:02] <eobanb> hm
[11:02] <eobanb> and does passwd -d return an error of any sort?
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Now that is seriously cool.
[11:03] <soundray> abarbaccia, no I haven't, but I was planning to, since there was a great article in c't Magazin about it. Do you read German?
[11:03] <cafuego> abarbaccia: I did a while go, then I wiped it again, coz it could only use lilo. (and lilo was SLOW)
[11:04] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: learning how to read manual pages will save you having to ash a lot of questions in #ubuntu :)
[11:04] <dooglus> s/ash/ask/
[11:04] <noplease> thx
[11:04] <dooglus> eobanb: he's right.  I just tried it.  I suspect you'll have to fiddle with pam's setup to get password-less logins
[11:04] <soundray> dooglus, typical smoker's Freudian :)
[11:04] <dooglus> soundray: heh
[11:05] <unam> salut :)
[11:05] <_jason> !fr
[11:05] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:06] <soundray> dooglus, is man -k the same as apropos?
[11:06] <unam> #ubuntu-fr
[11:07] <slug25> hello everybody!
[11:07] <eobanb> hi slug25.
[11:07] <soundray> unam, enter /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:07] <eobanb> he left.
[11:07] <trappist> soundray: sure looks like it
[11:07] <SAM_theman> is there a way i can upgrade to 6.04
[11:07] <soundray> too slow again...
[11:07] <slug25> i am a noob and i can help u with really noobish questions
[11:08] <eobanb> slug25, ??
[11:08] <dooglus> soundray: yes, I think so
[11:08] <soundray> slug25, that's great. I ordered Ubuntu and I got these round shiny things. What are they?
[11:08] <cafuego> Yay!
[11:08] <slug25> just making a joke, u know simpsons the cheap dentice :p
[11:09] <slug25> @soundray for just a dollar per minute i can show u all the magic wonders of a cd
[11:09] <slug25> :))
[11:09] <hypn0> will kopete 0.11 be available for breezy
[11:10] <toya_> why do i get error saying 'gtk-warning ** cannot: open display' when i try to gedit fstab
[11:11] <soundray> slug25, I put one in my video recorder and it has stopped working since.
[11:11] <slug25> haha
[11:11] <cafuego> toya_: You're 1) not running X or 2) not using sudo, but 'su'.
[11:11] <Stormx2> Hi All!
[11:12] <eobanb> hello Stormx2
[11:12] <abarbaccia> toya_, just use vi
[11:12] <vargnux> men...women....what is the Ubuntu-Chat in spanish?
[11:12] <dooglus> toya_: 3) you used "sudo -i" to become root, which lost your X settings
[11:12] <eobanb> !es
[11:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:12] <dooglus> toya_: if you "sudo gedit <filename>" as your own user you should be OK
[11:13] <toya_> dooglus, oh
[11:13] <toya_> ic
[11:13] <slug25> u need a new inhanced vhs recorder with m*s crap on it, so u can go to work and tell others how accurate u are in wasting hardware
[11:13] <dooglus> toya_: or, make the root shell with "sudo -s" instead of "sudo -i" and then you'll be able to run X apps.
[11:13] <toya_> dooglus, i'm not sure about sudo parameters
[11:13] <lowman62_> hello all
[11:13] <dooglus> toya_: "sudo -i" replaces your environment with root's.  root's environment doesn't have the necessary variables to be able to connect to your X display
[11:13] <eobanb> hi lowman62_
[11:13] <slug25> otherwise u will not be able to use the newest cd futures dude
[11:14] <pbull> hey, does anyone know how to get the right resolutions for an external monitor connected to a laptop?  I can only choose the resolutions for my laptop screen.  Thanks!
[11:14] <eobanb> slug25, can you try to stay on topic
[11:14] <paxmaster> how could I make xmms play wma music files
[11:14] <paxmaster> anyone
[11:14] <eobanb> !restricted
[11:14] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:14] <eobanb> paxmaster, read that ---^
[11:14] <monk> Hi, I ve upgraded from hoary to breezy. Now I cant switch the screen resolution to 1400x1050 althought the mode is listet in xorg.conf. How is it possible to activate this mode again?
[11:15] <paxmaster> thx I able to play mp3
[11:15] <eobanb> paxmaster, if they are DRM'ed wma files then you will not be able to play them
[11:15] <lowman62_> hey eobanb
[11:15] <eobanb> paxmaster, yes
[11:15] <toya_> dooglus, /The -l (list) option will list out the allowed (and forbidden) com
[11:15] <toya_>            mands for the user on the current host.
[11:15] <toya_> i dont get that
[11:15] <paxmaster> what is DRM
[11:15] <slug25> sorry i am born before the 80`s i developed the word topic
[11:15] <slug25> dude!
[11:15] <toya_> dooglus, oh, nvm
[11:15] <soundray> ubotu, tell monk about fixres
[11:15] <SAM_theman> /dev/hda2              13G  6.5G  5.3G  56% /
[11:15] <slug25> :))
[11:15] <bshumate> paxmaster: Digital Rights Management / aka Evil!
[11:16] <soundray> monk, have you seen the page that ubotu recommends?
[11:16] <SAM_theman> hmm 5.3GB left what should i do?
[11:16] <monk> ubotu?
[11:16] <paxmaster> thanks
[11:16] <SAM_theman> !tell 5.3GB
[11:16] <SAM_theman> !tell help
[11:16] <dallows> >>>>> Can help me anyone ?? http://pastebin.com/470753 <<<<<
[11:16] <eobanb> SAM_theman, what are you trying to do?
[11:16] <soundray> monk  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:17] <SAM_theman> well...
[11:17] <toya_> dooglus, when i do sudo -l the prompt doesn't change to #
[11:17] <eobanb> ..?
[11:17] <SAM_theman> what should i do with 5.3GB
[11:17] <cafuego> !test
[11:17] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[11:17] <SAM_theman> !test
[11:17] <dooglus> toya_: what's "sudo -l"?
[11:17] <SAM_theman> !test
[11:18] <SAM_theman> !kick
[11:18] <ubotu> SAM_theman: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:18] <toya_> dooglus, it just lists what i can do if i was in sudo mode
[11:18] <SAM_theman> well
[11:18] <dooglus> SAM_theman: got any more silly videos you want to spam at us?
[11:18] <SAM_theman> i have everything working on ubuntu
[11:18] <SAM_theman> YES.>......no
[11:19] <dooglus> toya_: why are you running "sudo -l"?
[11:19] <toya_> dooglus, i want to gedit my fstab
[11:19] <dooglus> toya_: run a terminal, then "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" as yourself
[11:19] <toya_> dooglus, or do i have to put sudo in front of my commands?
[11:19] <SAM_theman> only thing i got to show is my computer
[11:19] <cafuego> toya_: exit sudo, run 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[11:19] <barongas> When I try to apt-get install anything I get this error message about an interpretation error in /var/lib/dpkg/available
[11:19] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/sammy2005
[11:20] <cafuego> SAM_theman: Can you stop spamming, please?
[11:20] <SAM_theman> ?
[11:20] <dooglus> toya_: it's recommended that you put "sudo" in front of your commands.  alternatively you can run "sudo -s" to get a root shell which is able to run GUI programs
[11:20] <toya_> dooglus, ok thx
[11:20] <pinkisntwell> how can I add keyboard shortcuts for some program? the applet will only let me set it for a limited number of programs
[11:20] <slug25> trying to lick my elbow.. its like trieing to install a network card under win 95
[11:21] <soundray> pinkisntwell, there is a HOWTO at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039
[11:22] <christianp> hi all
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> http://ronald.bitfreak.net/pitfdll.php
[11:23] <SAM_theman> o heres what i do as a 15 year old
[11:23] <pinkisntwell> soundray: what the hell? do I need to read 2 pages to add a shortcut?
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> might put an end for the need for xine for totem
[11:23] <SAM_theman> http://download.blender.org/demo/movies/Blender3d_SIGGRAPH2005_DVDRip.avi
[11:23] <SAM_theman> i do any of the art in there but i do that in my sear time
[11:23] <slug25> @eobanb try giving it a good old blowjob
[11:23] <SAM_theman> *i didn't do
[11:23] <soundray> pinkisntwell, sorry for suggesting it.
[11:24] <davidwinter> hi all
[11:24] <soundray> pinkisntwell, just follow the Quick Recipe
[11:24] <Whitman> Hi, I was getting some errors in /var/log/messages about unknown key codes and it said to use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to fix. I found a website that suggested 'setkeycodes e02a 104' but now whenever I use the arrow keys at the console it beeps at me.  How can I revert the changes?
[11:24] <pinkisntwell> soundray: it talks about "multimedia" keys, I want regular keybindings
[11:24] <davidwinter> is there a way that I can continue having applications running when I log out, so when I log back in, they're still running as they were
[11:25] <soundray> pinkisntwell, the applet works for "native" Gnome programs.
[11:25] <davidwinter> it's just that I'm connecting via xdmcp and when I log back in, I want it to be as I left off
[11:25] <pinkisntwell> soundray: lol it works for 3-4 programs
[11:25] <XiCillin> save your session? davidwinter
[11:25] <toya_> how do you unmount a device?
[11:26] <XiCillin> i know that services in init.d run when you are logged out
[11:26] <soundray> pinkisntwell, what do you want your shortcut to do?
[11:26] <pinkisntwell> soundray: run a set program
[11:26] <paxmaster> i can't play wma file in xmms but I can play in vlc
[11:26] <paxmaster> how come '
[11:26] <VincentMX> i'm off to bed
[11:26] <VincentMX> bye
[11:27] <davidwinter> XiCillin: the app's remain open but not in the state I left them before logging out if I save my current setup
[11:27] <davidwinter> when prompted on logout
[11:27] <Crackez> anyone know where I can find decent cheap 1u servers?
[11:28] <Crackez> single cpu, at least 512MB ram
[11:28] <Crackez> raid1
[11:28] <davidwinter> I kind of want to 'lock screen' but then be able to re-login back in from the login screen via xdmcp... if that makes sense...
[11:28] <eobanb> Crackez, this channel really isnt for those kinds of questions...i'd check froogle, newegg, etc.
[11:28] <Crackez> i have been poking around on froogle, and pricewatch
[11:29] <XiCillin> davidwinter: I'm not sure then
[11:29] <davidwinter> XiCillin: no prob.
[11:29] <Crackez> i just thought someone else here might have had the same desire...
[11:29] <eobanb> davidwinter, one way to lock the screen would be to set a password for xscreensaver
[11:29] <eobanb> that would preserve your exact state.
[11:30] <soundray> pinkisntwell, you can always use gconf-editor -- that'll let you do practically anything.
[11:31] <pinkisntwell> soundray: hmmm practically nothing you mean
[11:31] <pinkisntwell> soundray: if I go into the gnome section I get almost nothing
[11:31] <redoc> hello
[11:31] <eobanb> hi redoc.
[11:32] <dell500> does anyone know of a driver for windows that recognizes ext2 raid?
[11:32] <soundray> pinkisntwell, Linux isn't a totally dumbed-down system yet. You need to have a certain amount of willingness to do things the Linux way, or the Ubuntu way as the case may be.
[11:32] <redoc> I just got X over ssh working.... how does one forward arudio over ssh?
[11:32] <pseudo_smartass> where can i go to get a list of "drivers" for my aopen dvd/cd-rw burner? and when i find one... how do i make it install? (get-apt?)
[11:32] <Shadowpillar> dell500: nope, except some shareware drivers that dont work 100% correctly
[11:32] <eobanb> dell500, try explore2fs
[11:32] <slug25> someone here upgraded to breezy lately?
[11:32] <pinkisntwell> soundray: adding a shortcut is "dumbing-down"?
[11:33] <soundray> pinkisntwell, to run a specific program with a key combination, use the instructions under point 3 on the page that I gave you.
[11:33] <dell500> well i'm trying to read it as a drive so i can use itunes wiht it
[11:33] <dell500> cause i wanna get my music onto my ipod faster than using gtkpod, same with videos :)
[11:33] <pseudo_smartass> anyone?
[11:33] <soundray> pinkisntwell, for someone looking for help you are acting a tiny bit arrogant.
[11:33] <pseudo_smartass> cd burner drivers?
[11:33] <dell500> ya, ext2 and ext3 should be supported in winbloze, but they suck
[11:33] <Shadowpillar> dell500: try banshee
[11:34] <barongas> How do I get cd-juicer to rip mp3's?
[11:34] <dell500> i didn't like banshee
[11:34] <barongas> err sound-juicer
[11:34] <Thorondor> where does network-admin store its data?
[11:34] <dell500> i tried yamipod too
[11:34] <dell500> and i can't get the new version of gtkpod to install, cause i forgot lol
[11:34] <Shadowpillar> dell500: well, someone could make third party drivers if windows' support is based on a dll, which I dont thing is the case
[11:34] <dell500> Shadowpillar, there are ext2 drivers, they jsut don't support raid or i don't know how to get them to
[11:35] <Shadowpillar> dell500: try getting banshee for ipod stuff
[11:35] <dell500> like if my ubuntu drive was hooked up right now, it would read it, but the sata raid0 setup isn't working
[11:35] <dell500> did they release a new version by chance?
[11:35] <Shadowpillar> unsure
[11:35] <bur[n] er> dell500: they did, but it's not in ubuntu yet
[11:35] <bur[n] er> dell500: at least not in breezy, but I wouldn't suggest using dapper yet
[11:36] <dell500> dapper?
[11:37] <AbdulSpiegal> hi
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> What's a good free equivalent to Mathematica?
[11:38] <eobanb> dell500, dapper is the next version of ubuntu, but its development is incomplete and isn't recommended for use by most until its official release next year.
[11:38] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone help me out with something>?
[11:38] <eobanb> AbdulSpiegel, what is it?
[11:38] <Johnson> help me
[11:38] <dell500> eobanb, neat :)
[11:39] <lillpelle> tonyyarusso: there is no equivalent program, but Maxima may be the closest you come...
[11:39] <eobanb> Johnson, what is the problem?
[11:39] <AbdulSpiegel> eobanb, umm i need help in getting my sound to work, i have the latest ubuntu, im assuming it Breezy Badger 5.10
[11:39] <pinkisntwell> soundray: thanks
[11:39] <Johnson> i have downlaoded a kde theme i tryed to follow the instructions and they dont make snese
[11:39] <soundray> pinkisntwell, you're welcome.  Did it work?
[11:39] <pinkisntwell> soundray: I'm trying...
[11:39] <jenda> hey seth_k|lappy
[11:40] <pseudo_smartass> ok
[11:40] <Johnson> i followed the instructions onkde-look and it didnt make sense?!?!?!
[11:40] <pseudo_smartass> i cant find nothing on this dvd/cd-rw burner issue
[11:40] <pseudo_smartass> anyone got a repo or something i can add to make my shit recognized
[11:41] <pseudo_smartass> i got 4 baskets of laundry to fold and i aint doing it without my music damnit
[11:41] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:41] <IceGuest> :(
[11:41] <Johnson> any one know how to install KDE themes here plz??
[11:41] <eobanb> AbdulSpiegel, try this:
[11:41] <eobanb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[11:42] <Nomikos> soundray: poking at the volume with DiskUtil in OS X fixed the problem :-) thanks for the help!
[11:42] <soundray> IceGuest, come on, it can't be that bad.
[11:42] <barongas> Damn, my apt won't work due to some parse error in "/var/lib/dpkg/available", I need to get it working in order for ubuntu to have a point :(
[11:42] <soundray> Nomikos, glad you got it going.
[11:42] <pinkisntwell> soundray: hmmm, what if I want a to execute a command with sudo?
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle, thanks.  However, I see wine claims to be able to run it.
[11:42] <IceGuest> Does anyone know how to bootup with a floppy disk to install it because my computer won't boot from CD?
[11:42] <lillpelle> tonyyarusso: to run what? Mathematica? If so, then you should be able to run Mathematica for Linux... (I do)
[11:43] <pseudo_smartass> ice... u have to change the boot order in bios
[11:43] <AbdulSpiegel> eobanb, okay i will, if i have any trouble i'll come back
[11:43] <IceGuest> well my comp won't show up the CD room in bios
[11:43] <soundray> pinkisntwell, I haven't tried, but my gut reaction would be to put it in a script with gksudo and call that script with the shortcut key.
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle: My friend who needs it for school already has a Windows copy of it.
[11:43] <pseudo_smartass> really? odd... every computer for like the last 5 years has that option in bios
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle: Getting the Linux version would mean $139.
[11:44] <pinkisntwell> soundray: thanks a lot, you're very helpful, sorry for sounding a but silly before
[11:44] <soundray> pinkisntwell, all forgiven.
[11:44] <IceGuest> it has the option boot order when i look in that its only got the hard drive & floppy
[11:44] <pbull> Can anyone tell me how to change the resolution for my external monitor?
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle: Which I'm guessing they don't want to pay.
[11:45] <pinkisntwell> soundray: I think it should be easier to bind a key to a program though, maybe the gnome people think otherwise
[11:45] <soundray> IceGuest, have you tried smart bootmanager?
[11:45] <IceGuest> nope where do i get it
[11:45] <lillpelle> tonyyarusso: OK, I see. Here the university pays for it both for Win/Linux/OSX... That is, it is free for students :)
[11:45] <soundray> pinkisntwell, the Gnome people are seriously under fire for the way they do things.
[11:45] <pbull> the gnome system options don't list the natie resolution for my lcd
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle: What uni?
[11:45] <lillpelle> tonyyarusso: Chalmers, Sweden
[11:45] <pinkisntwell> soundray: yes, I'm reading all the stuff even from linus
[11:45] <Kuyaedz> hey guys if anyone is asking for help compiling the gaim2.0 beta I just put together a wiki for it.  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim
[11:45] <jessid> hello. If I have  a .deb package, how do I install it?
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle: Although that brings up a good point; I should make sure she asks whether they do.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> lillpelle: Ah, Europe.  That would help.
[11:46] <soundray> pinkisntwell, many people fare better with KDE.  I personally use the command line for all my advanced stuff, so I don't mind that much what environment I'm in.
[11:46] <blindsight> I'm having a little bit of dependency hell on dapper trying to install lyx, apparently I need libaiksaurus0 which is not installable, however there does exist a libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a
[11:47] <blindsight> so who do I tell this too to update the dependencies for lyx?
[11:47] <soundray> IceGuest, smart bootmanager is on your cd, in /install/sbm.bin. There is a Readme file, too.
[11:47] <pbull> I tried changin my xorg.conf, yet the resolution i added is still not availavble in the change resolution dialog
[11:47] <soundray> IceGuest, are you in Windows noe?
[11:47] <IceGuest> YEah
[11:47] <soundray> *now
[11:47] <randabis> no windows here
[11:48] <soundray> IceGuest, you need to find a tool called rawrite (or rawrite2?) With that, you can create a boot floppy from sbm.bin.
[11:48] <crimsun> blindsight: file a bug on https://launchpad.net/malone , lyx just needs to be compiled against a transitioned aiksaurus
[11:48] <Johnson> dose any one know how to install kde themes from scratch???????????????????/
[11:48] <IceGuest> i tried that
[11:48] <IceGuest> when i tried to boot with it, just a blank screen
[11:48] <soundray> IceGuest, sorry, I remember you now.
[11:48] <IceGuest> yup
[11:48] <amit> join #bookz
[11:48] <IceGuest> :(
[11:49] <amit> @join #bookz
[11:49] <TheG> Installed ubuntu on primary Slave hdd but Grub tells me "Unable to mount" please help
[11:49] <soundray> IceGuest, no luck with the bios update?
[11:49] <AbdulSpiegel> Can anyone here help me out in fixing my sound??
[11:49] <IceGuest> ill check for a bios update
[11:49] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: which sound card?
[11:50] <soundray> IceGuest, still listening?
[11:50] <Aton> can some1 tell me !how do i get something on a diskete?!?
[11:50] <IceGuest> yea
[11:51] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i am not sure, but if it makes it any easier i think i know a way to find out. when i was running knoppix last night on the starting screen it was "mounting" all devices or w/e and it said : sound: <stuff here>
[11:51] <Comrade_Vladimir> i know its very overasked but how do u mount a windos partiiton from ubuntu
[11:51] <soundray> IceGuest, there is a way of booting an ISO image of the CD when it's stored on a Windows partition.
[11:51] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=12/35216453362.png&s=x11
[11:51] <SAM_theman> mplayer rocks
[11:51] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, the sound works fine on knoppix
[11:51] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: are you currently running Ubuntu Breezy?
[11:51] <AbdulSpiegel> Yes i am
[11:51] <pbull> Can anyone help me set up my external monitor to have the proper resolutions?  changing xorg.conf does not work
[11:51] <pbull> ???
[11:51] <SAM_theman> all i do is mplayer "file"
[11:51] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[11:51] <SAM_theman> in the terminal
[11:51] <IceGuest> how?
[11:51] <cmatheson> pbull: then you are editing your xorg.conf incorrectcly
[11:51] <Aton> please some1 how do i put a file on a diskete
[11:52] <soundray> IceGuest, it's in the install manual, I'll dig out a URL from my cache for you if you need it.
[11:52] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i will try that thanks
[11:52] <crimsun> Aton: just pmount the diskette, then cp the file over
[11:52] <AbdulSpiegel> umm nothing happened
[11:52] <cmatheson> Aton: mount -o vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[11:52] <funkyHat> can someone help me with configuring hotplug to detect new IDE devices? (removable HDD bay) :)
[11:52] <IceGuest> yeah i need it
[11:52] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, nothing happened mate
[11:53] <soundray> IceGuest, 1 min
[11:53] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: older computer?
[11:53] <AbdulSpiegel> yeh its pretty old
[11:53] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: what computer?
[11:53] <Aton> it retzurns in an arror
[11:53] <Aton> when mounting
[11:53] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, its a Dell OptiPlex GX1
[11:53] <soundray> IceGuest, index page is http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/
[11:54] <Comrade_Vladimir> i know its very overasked but how do u mount a windos partiiton from ubuntu type my name in there so i see it better in red (it sticks out more
[11:54] <soundray> IceGuest, check out section 4.4 in particular
[11:54] <TheG> Can somebody tell me what i did wrong? I installed Ubuntu on my primary slave hdd without problems... Grub is also installed at the mbr of this disk and I bott from it... but when I want to start anything (Ubuntu/Windows) Grub tell me it's unable to mount
[11:54] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i can boot knoppix again if you want and write down the sound card stuff it had
[11:55] <IceGuest> cheers i read it now
[11:55] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, if that makes it any easier
[11:55] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, ubotu knows something:
[11:55] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[11:55] <soundray> !ntfs
[11:55] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:55] <pbull> cmatheson: I added "1280x1024" before "1024x768" for all the depths and restarted X with no luck
[11:56] <soundray> !fat32
[11:56] <ubotu> from memory, fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:56] <Atlas96> hello
[11:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> thnx soundray
[11:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> i have win ip so ntfs 4 me
[11:56] <Atlas96> i'm searching for a programme like objectdock under windows
[11:56] <Atlas96> to have a docklet bar
[11:56] <Atlas96> someone can help me please?
[11:57] <john_> can someone tell me what custom repository I need for mplayer?
[11:57] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, do checkout the other URL also. There is a script to autodetect your partition and make the proper config entries.
[11:57] <crimsun> john_: it's in multiverse
[11:57] <cmatheson> pbull: maybe your monitor is configured incorrectly
[11:57] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i think its working, but i need to test it somehow
[11:57] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: did it return to a prompt immediately?
[11:57] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i still see a red 'X' by the volume control
[11:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray is there just a easy way to access a folder on another partition
[11:57] <pbull> cmatheson: what do you mean?
[11:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> stupid dual boot!
[11:57] <john_> crimsun, how do I add it?
[11:58] <crimsun> !tell john_ about repos
[11:58] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/win'
[11:58] <cwr2nd> hey guys had a quick question for anyone who has a sec, I have a a scsi pci adapter with 2 ibm 18g drives attached but I can not mount the drive
[11:58] <TheG> is there anybody who can help me?
[11:58] <Atlas96> youhou
[11:58] <eobanb> TheG, what is your question?
[11:58] <Atlas96> answer to me please
[11:59] <TheG>  I installed Ubuntu on my primary slave hdd without problems... Grub is also installed at the mbr of this disk and I bott from it... but when I want to start anything (Ubuntu/Windows) Grub tell me it's unable to mount
[11:59] <john_> which mplayer do I need to install?
[11:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> it says- mount: mount point /mnt/win does not exist
[11:59] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i think its working but i hear no sound
[11:59] <crimsun> john_: uname -m
[11:59] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i am able to adjust the volume and acually use the volume control but i hear nothing
[11:59] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, okay, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/win'
[11:59] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: paste the output from amixer onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:59] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, or use an existing mountpoint for your partition.
[11:59] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: you need to create the directory where it wants to mount, first
[11:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> wish i could help TheG i no theryre hard to get a response out of!
[12:00] <eobanb> wow sorry i only do this *for free in my spare time*.....
[12:00] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok how