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| lancelot | anybody here who can help me. i was able to pxe boot but cannot continue. the screen shows begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount then it shows done and connect then the error says connection time-out | 04:34 |
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| mhz | lancelot: hi | 04:35 |
| lancelot | hi | 04:35 |
| mhz | did you read InstallNotes before actual install ? | 04:36 |
| lancelot | yes | 04:36 |
| mhz | sorry, but I have to ask ;) | 04:36 |
| mhz | ok, how much ram do you have in client? | 04:36 |
| mhz | and how much ram in server? | 04:36 |
| lancelot | i followed everything | 04:36 |
| lancelot | server has 256 mb ram | 04:37 |
| lancelot | client has 324 ram | 04:37 |
| mhz | okis, one variable less to consider | 04:37 |
| mhz | was this the first time you booted via PXE this client? | 04:37 |
| lancelot | yes | 04:37 |
| mhz | did you try a second or third time wih same client? | 04:38 |
| mhz | +t | 04:38 |
| mhz | are you using breezy (5.10) ? | 04:38 |
| mhz | or testing dapper | 04:39 |
| lancelot | yes im using brezzy | 04:39 |
| mhz | okis | 04:39 |
| mhz | and the other questions? | 04:40 |
| mhz | lancelot: ? | 04:41 |
| lancelot | im just wondering why the client boot stops at begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount | 04:41 |
| mhz | lancelot: but did you try booting 2nd time or third time with same client? | 04:42 |
| lancelot | yes | 04:44 |
| lancelot | it stops at begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount done | 04:45 |
| mhz | hmmm, I had same trouble the 1st and 2nd time | 04:45 |
| mhz | 3rd times as cools | 04:45 |
| mhz | and it was a known bug | 04:45 |
| mhz | lancelot: have you updated ssh-keys? | 04:45 |
| lancelot | no i have nt yet | 04:46 |
| mhz | lstp-update-sshkeys | 04:46 |
| mhz | and then try again | 04:46 |
| lancelot | ok | 04:46 |
| lancelot | mhz you are the man | 04:55 |
| lancelot | i boots now | 04:55 |
| lancelot | thanks | 04:55 |
| lancelot | but i dont have mouse input | 04:56 |
| mhz | hehehe | 04:56 |
| mhz | ooops | 04:56 |
| mhz | :) | 04:56 |
| mhz | lancelot: I am very sure i heard some guys complaining about same issues 3 weeks ago | 04:57 |
| mhz | but I have no clue how they solved it, sorry, lancelot | 04:57 |
| mhz | ogra: ping | 04:57 |
| mhz | ogra: could you give some hints to lancelot about mouse input not working after booting PXE? | 04:57 |
| lancelot | starting hotplug subsystem fail | 04:59 |
| mhz | ohhh | 05:00 |
| mhz | have you tried same client, diff mouse? | 05:00 |
| lancelot | yea same thing i have two client now | 05:00 |
| mhz | hmmm, weired indeed | 05:00 |
| mhz | lancelot: if ogra is not here, i dont know who else I could ask | 05:01 |
| mhz | :) | 05:01 |
| mhz | could you try with the guys in #ltsp ? | 05:02 |
| mhz | i know ogra has been very close to them and they to us | 05:02 |
| lancelot | ok | 05:04 |
| mhz | lancelot: sorry I can't help you | 05:11 |
| lancelot | mhz: tnx | 05:11 |
| mhz | yw | 05:11 |
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| zhx | hello? | 07:19 |
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| platos | Hi, can anyone tell me how to give my clients an dynamically generated hostname? | 09:21 |
| platos | Through dhcp that is. | 09:22 |
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| jsgotangco | hey all | 02:21 |
| ogra | hi | 02:22 |
| jsgotangco | hey ogra how's it going? good i hope | 02:22 |
| ogra | yup, all fine | 02:22 |
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| jsgotangco | JaneW, ping? | 04:42 |
| ogra | she said goodbye for the day | 04:43 |
| jsgotangco | oh right | 04:44 |
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| jsgotangco | ogra, busy? | 04:44 |
| ogra | so, so | 04:44 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, can i pm you for a minute? | 04:45 |
| ogra | yup | 04:45 |
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| Hendrik | Hi guys, My first time here. Question: Can I use Kubuntu as a client for and edubuntu LTSP, or how can I change to KDE in Edubuntu? New to both Linux and Edubuntu. | 05:38 |
| ogra | you just install kubuntu-desktop on the server .... | 05:38 |
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| pablo--mvd | hi! | 05:38 |
| Hendrik | Consider me totally ignorant; sorry. How do I do that? | 05:38 |
| ogra | the ltsp clients are diskless, they use the servers desktop ... | 05:39 |
| pablo--mvd | how do i install a .deb downloaded from internet? | 05:39 |
| ogra | ltsp only boots them up and starts an X server | 05:39 |
| Hendrik | Thx. I kinda have that part figured out. Got a workstation booting up to it just fine. How do I change the desktop on the server tho? Thx for your help | 05:40 |
| ogra | use synaptic from the system menu ... search for kubuntu-desktop and install it | 05:43 |
| Hendrik | Thx, I will try that. Thx for your help ogra. Cheers | 05:46 |
| ogra | pablo--mvd, are you sure the deb doesnt exist in ubuntu ? and are you sure its compiled for ubuntu ? | 05:49 |
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| pablo--mvd | hi! ive installed iopera browser from a downloaded .deb file from opera site | 05:54 |
| pablo--mvd | but now the opera icon doesnt apear in the menues | 05:54 |
| pablo--mvd | :( | 05:54 |
| pablo--mvd | how do i fix this? | 05:54 |
| ogra | add it with the menu editor | 05:54 |
| pablo--mvd | tyhe .deb downloaed was said to be for ubunto distro | 05:54 |
| ogra | (right click the menu icon) | 05:55 |
| ogra | then its fine ... | 05:55 |
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| pablo--mvd | hi! ive installed edubuntu server ok but now.. how do i install thinclientes? | 06:19 |
| pablo--mvd | i know edubuntu has the ltsp inclueded | 06:19 |
| pablo--mvd | how do i instal a thin client so that i boots and connects to the edubuntu server via ltsp? | 06:19 |
| lucasvo | ehm, You need to find out if the NIC are compatible | 06:20 |
| lucasvo | do you have PXE? | 06:20 |
| ogra | pablo--mvd, you read the installatio help mentioned in the topic of this channel ? | 06:30 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I didn't find anything about setting up clients in the edubuntu wiki | 06:41 |
| ogra | you dont set them up, you just boot them if the server is set up correctly ... | 06:42 |
| ogra | (i supposed you know that= | 06:42 |
| ogra | ) | 06:42 |
| vmarks | you must have PXE. often built into the bios of machines that come with ethernet on the motherboard. Set boot order to 1st device: network and see if it works. | 06:45 |
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| lucasvo | I don't have PXE, I am using rom Images | 06:48 |
| vmarks | right, off of floppies? | 06:48 |
| lucasvo | vmarks: yes | 06:49 |
| ogra | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe | 06:49 |
| vmarks | I have some cards that have roms on them with etherboot, and simply was unable to make them work and retain the PXE clients. | 06:49 |
| ogra | there is at least one do how to use etherboot floppies on the clients | 06:49 |
| ogra | what else would you want to set up on a client ? | 06:50 |
| ogra | vmarks, etherboot is yet untested, i recieved some NICs for dapper testing, but didnt get to it yet | 06:50 |
| ogra | i hope i can make it work out of the box like PXE for dapper | 06:51 |
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| lucasvo | ogra: but there isn't any link from EdubuntuInstallNotes | 06:57 |
| lucasvo | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientSetup | 06:57 |
| ogra | feel free to add one | 06:57 |
| lucasvo | ogra: ^^^ I did | 06:58 |
| ogra | s/bootrom technology/boot protocol/ | 06:58 |
| ogra | s/an be written to an EPROM, or written to a floppy disk./an be written to an EPROM, a CD-Rom or to a floppy disk./ | 07:00 |
| ogra | else its fine :) | 07:00 |
| ogra | did you link it from anywhere ? | 07:00 |
| lucasvo | ogra: yes, from EdubuntInstallNotes | 07:01 |
| ogra | great :) | 07:01 |
| lucasvo | ah, this is crap | 07:02 |
| ogra | ?? | 07:03 |
| lucasvo | one should makr trivial changes all the time, I always forget it, poor subsrcibers who get mail because of me 10x | 07:03 |
| ogra | heh... | 07:03 |
| lucasvo | ogra: would it do any harm to http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup if one would add the next-server already now? | 07:05 |
| lucasvo | ogra: in that case people will have less problems | 07:05 |
| ogra | i'll add it to the default file in the next ltsp upload ... | 07:06 |
| ogra | i'm not yet sure we will keep it at all ... | 07:06 |
| ogra | but make a comments section at the bottom of the page and put a note there if you like | 07:06 |
| ogra | and point out that it only applies to dapper *now* and might still change during development ... | 07:07 |
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| lucasvo | hm, I can't find the page anymore, something similar to LTSPServerSetup | 07:09 |
| ogra | its linked from the InstallNotes | 07:09 |
| lucasvo | ah, LTSPHowto | 07:09 |
| ogra | argh, nope | 07:09 |
| ogra | thats only for hoary and earlier | 07:09 |
| ogra | please dont link it to anything breezy related | 07:10 |
| lucasvo | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPHowTo | 07:10 |
| ogra | yes | 07:10 |
| ogra | thats not related to breezy or newer ... | 07:10 |
| lucasvo | Please read the LTSPClientSetup. < not linked | 07:10 |
| lucasvo | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientSetup exists | 07:11 |
| ogra | yes, but thats not clean wiki annotation, sou it needs correct quoting ... see the install notes | 07:13 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I updated EdubuntuInstallNotes, ok? | 07:19 |
| ogra | could you put it at the end of the section ? so that the keymap setting is above ? | 07:20 |
| ogra | i.e. swap the lines ... | 07:21 |
| lucasvo | ok | 07:21 |
| lucasvo | oO(one can not have problems with keyboard, if no clients are working) | 07:21 |
| lucasvo | :D | 07:21 |
| ogra | thats true, but the setting belongs to server setup ... | 07:23 |
| lucasvo | correct | 07:36 |
| pablo--mvd | if in the same net: can thin clients access a windows 2003 domain shared folder? | 07:45 |
| pablo--mvd | suposing that the permisions are ok | 07:45 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: yes, but actually it would be more reasonable to mount it on the server | 07:47 |
| lucasvo | because the applications are running on the server | 07:47 |
| lucasvo | the client is nothing more than a box with keyboard and mouse, the programms run on the server | 07:48 |
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| pablo--mvd | ok | 07:57 |
| pablo--mvd | thanks | 07:57 |
| pablo--mvd | mm and what if ive have a dhcp already running in my net (where im going to install the edubuntu server?) | 07:59 |
| pablo--mvd | cant i use the one ive already have? | 07:59 |
| ogra | if its a linux server or you know how to set it up rigth for netbooting, sure | 08:01 |
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| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: I have it the same way... | 08:33 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: how to do it: | 08:33 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: my dhcp configuration: http://pastebin.com/472077 | 08:35 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: sudo apt-get remove ltsp-server-standalone | 08:35 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart | 08:35 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: dhcpserver=ltspserver | 08:38 |
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| ogra | lucasvo, he wants to use an already existent dhcp server in his net | 08:40 |
| ogra | i.e. dhcpserver!=ltspserver | 08:41 |
| ogra | and please dont advise people to remove -standalone if they want to use dhcpd locally, thats very hard to support ... | 08:42 |
| lucasvo | ogra: why? | 08:42 |
| lucasvo | ogra: why is it hard to support? | 08:42 |
| ogra | because it can take you hours to find out someone tolde them to break their config | 08:43 |
| lucasvo | it is not breaking config, it is just "using another dhcp server" | 08:43 |
| ogra | it is "using the same one with a non standard config nobody expects" | 08:44 |
| lucasvo | ogra: how would one have to set the dhcp-config, that it works with dhcp!=ltsp? | 08:44 |
| ogra | i.e. using /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf | 08:44 |
| ogra | sudo apt-get remove dhcp3-server | 08:44 |
| lucasvo | :( | 08:45 |
| lucasvo | why should I remove it? | 08:45 |
| ogra | that removes -standalone as well | 08:45 |
| ogra | because its not used | 08:45 |
| pablo--mvd | wait. let me explain. i want to run edubuntu server (linux termina server) in an enviroment | 08:50 |
| pablo--mvd | enviroment=net thats a windows 2003 domain | 08:50 |
| pablo--mvd | ive already have a dhcp running there | 08:50 |
| ogra | so make sure the windows dhcp server points the clients to the bootimage on the ltsp server ... | 08:52 |
| pablo--mvd | ill make my thin clients (very old machines) boot from their own harddisk | 08:52 |
| ogra | and remove dhcp3-server from the edubuntu box | 08:52 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: you need to configure the windows dhcp server for pxe boot | 08:53 |
| pablo--mvd | no no i dont have pxe on my thin clients | 08:53 |
| pablo--mvd | im planning to boot then from their own hard disk | 08:53 |
| ogra | but the edubuntu images are PXE ones | 08:53 |
| ogra | you need to adjust the win server to make the clients use the image from the edubuntu server ... | 08:54 |
| ogra | no idea how one does that on windows | 08:54 |
| ogra | and the clients need PXE emulation in the etherboot image enabled, as described on the wiki | 08:55 |
| pablo--mvd | ok but. cant i boot the thin clients from their own hard disk and and the end of that boot process connect to the edubuntu server | 08:55 |
| pablo--mvd | for using its x fpor example? | 08:55 |
| ogra | hmm, yes, but you are on yourt own with this setup ... | 08:56 |
| pablo--mvd | apolications and so on? | 08:56 |
| pablo--mvd | :( | 08:56 |
| ogra | thats not even remotely ltsp | 08:56 |
| ogra | you could try a "server" install from the edubuntu CD on the clients and install the ltsp-client package there ... and then take a wee or two of hacking the ltsp client bootscripts to make that work .. | 08:58 |
| ogra | s/wee/week | 08:58 |
| ogra | thats a lot of fiddling | 08:59 |
| pablo--mvd | i thought that ltsp allowed me to do that (have a x server) and thin clients (boot from pxe, floppy, hd etc etc) | 08:59 |
| lucasvo | (boot from pxe < you can do this | 09:00 |
| pablo--mvd | and that thin clients at the end of their boot process conect to the x server (in this case the edubuntu server) but maybe im wrong :( | 09:00 |
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| ogra | ltsp allows you to boot the system from tftp ... and mount the rootfs via NFS | 09:00 |
| ogra | thats not how ltsp works | 09:01 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: why don't you want to use pxe? | 09:01 |
| pablo--mvd | the thin clients are very old machines whit isa network cards! | 09:01 |
| pablo--mvd | they dont hace pxe | 09:01 |
| pablo--mvd | have pxe | 09:02 |
| ogra | ltsp boots a minimal system on the client it obtains the kernel via tftp, mounts / via nfs and starts an X server on the client ... | 09:02 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: you can boot from floppy | 09:02 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientSetup?highlight=%28ltsp%29 | 09:02 |
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| lucasvo | ogra: community council? | 09:02 |
| ogra | yup | 09:02 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: do they have floppy disk? | 09:04 |
| pablo--mvd | yes the have | 09:07 |
| pablo--mvd | they also have hd | 09:08 |
| pablo--mvd | my plann is to meke them boot from ther hd | 09:08 |
| pablo--mvd | but dont know how to (at the end of that boot) connect to the edubuntu server | 09:08 |
| ogra | you can put the etherboot image on the hd like described on the wii | 09:08 |
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| ogra | and use ltsp as usual | 09:08 |
| pablo--mvd | so that they can use the X | 09:08 |
| pablo--mvd | aplications et cet c | 09:09 |
| ogra | yup | 09:09 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: do they have a CD drive? | 09:09 |
| pablo--mvd | no they dont | 09:09 |
| Hemet_Ka | P3L|C4N0, can I talk to you by query? | 09:09 |
| ogra | just copy the etherboot image on the HD like the wiki describes | 09:09 |
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| ogra | then make sure your win dhcp points the clients to the edubuntu server for the tftp stuff ... | 09:10 |
| lucasvo | pablo--mvd: 1. find the nic ID | 09:10 |
| lucasvo | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe < step 1 | 09:11 |
| pablo--mvd | ok thnaks im reading the wiki | 09:18 |
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| lucasvo | ogra: why should one participate the edubuntu team? | 09:45 |
| ogra | because you have an interest in edubuntu ? | 09:47 |
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| lucasvo | ogra: hm, so I "don't" have to activly develop edubuntu? | 10:01 |
| ogra | lucasvo, doing active work on edubuntu would include writing docs, giving support and everything else that helps it .. | 10:02 |
| irvin | lucasvo, you don't need too | 10:02 |
| lucasvo | ogra: so could I join? | 10:02 |
| ogra | or promote it on fairs ... or hang around here and give valuable comments ;) | 10:02 |
| ogra | sure :) | 10:03 |
| hybrid | will there be Edubuntu discs with Dapper? | 10:03 |
| ogra | there are :) | 10:03 |
| ogra | http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2005-December/000927.html | 10:04 |
| ogra | stay away from the current dailies, they are broken ... | 10:04 |
| hybrid | i mean shipit Cds | 10:04 |
| ogra | nope | 10:05 |
| ogra | oh, i mean yes, thats planned | 10:05 |
| hybrid | lol | 10:05 |
| ogra | but there are none for breezy | 10:05 |
| hybrid | cool | 10:05 |
| hybrid | so i have seen | 10:05 |
| ogra | but it will be a very limited amount | 10:05 |
| irvin | someone has to sponsor it :-) | 10:05 |
| hybrid | well i will start preparing around march or so | 10:06 |
| hybrid | ;) | 10:06 |
| ogra | sabdfl does ... but only a limited amount | 10:06 |
| hybrid | i am thinking of installing it on a comp for my younder brothers | 10:06 |
| ogra | you can buy the breezy CDs in several online shops if you dont have a CD writer | 10:06 |
| ogra | i.e. amu sells them ... | 10:07 |
| hybrid | its not that | 10:07 |
| ogra | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/GettingEdubuntu | 10:07 |
| hybrid | its my connection sucks | 10:07 |
| ogra | they are very cheap ... | 10:08 |
| ogra | less than $2 or 2 | 10:08 |
| hybrid | i wish i was around alot of Linux people | 10:09 |
| hybrid | i would do an installfest | 10:09 |
| === lucasvo wishes that to | ||
| === lucasvo has requested to join edubuntu team | ||
| === ogra will approve you as soon as he gets the launchpad mail | ||
| lucasvo | ogra: thanks | 10:11 |
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| lucasvo | hm, how did you do your hackergotchi? | 11:06 |
| ogra | with gimp | 11:07 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I had hours to do it :D | 11:07 |
| lucasvo | https://launchpad.net/people/lucasvo | 11:07 |
| ogra | takes me 10 mins to do one ... | 11:07 |
| lucasvo | ogra: how do you do it/ | 11:07 |
| ogra | took me more time to remove the dark shadows below my eyes ;) | 11:08 |
| lucasvo | :-) | 11:08 |
| ogra | you did fiddle with the shadow settings ... | 11:08 |
| ogra | you should leave the default or at least onyl adjust it minimally ... but you centered it | 11:09 |
| lucasvo | hm? | 11:09 |
| lucasvo | how can one do shadow? | 11:09 |
| ogra | in yours ... | 11:09 |
| ogra | how did you do it ? | 11:09 |
| ogra | there is a shadow filter in gimp, that does it for you | 11:09 |
| ogra | or a script-fu | 11:10 |
| lucasvo | ok | 11:10 |
| ogra | use the magic wnd to make a clean cut out of your head, use fuzzy edges there ... | 11:11 |
| ogra | then just use the shadow function and align the layers that it creates a bit | 11:11 |
| ogra | s/wnd/wand | 11:11 |
| lucasvo | where is the shadow function? | 11:12 |
| ogra | anywhere in script-fu | 11:12 |
| ogra | or in the filters | 11:12 |
| ogra | drop shadow ... | 11:12 |
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| pablo--mvd | is ltsp included en edubuntu latest release? | 11:17 |
| ogra | yup | 11:17 |
| ogra | its installed by default | 11:17 |
| lucasvo | hi MrMazda | 11:18 |
| lucasvo | hi kjcole | 11:18 |
| MrMazda | lucasvo: :) | 11:18 |
| MrMazda | now using SeaMonkey 1.0b, just released today | 11:19 |
| kjcole | Hi, I'm just experimenting with X-Chat to see if I like it better than Konversation. So far, the answer's "No". | 11:19 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: irssi is the best | 11:19 |
| lucasvo | 100% bloatware free (tm) | 11:19 |
| === MrMazda only uses Chatzilla | ||
| kjcole | lucasvo, have you used the others? (I used Chatzilla briefly too, but find myself liking Konversation a lot.) | 11:20 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: yes, I use gaim for msn and for other irc networks I rarely go to | 11:20 |
| lucasvo | I also used Xchat for a little bit | 11:21 |
| lucasvo | and mIRC :P | 11:21 |
| lucasvo | but I couldn't live without irssi | 11:21 |
| kjcole | lucasvo, I meant comparing it with konversation (which does seem bloated). | 11:21 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: I don't know konversation | 11:22 |
| === ogra likes xchat | ||
| lucasvo | I only know, as soon as my sister uses it over ltsp, my server slows down | 11:23 |
| lucasvo | http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/ < kjcole, launchpad is linking to it, what should be in there? | 11:23 |
| kjcole | lucasvo, That's good to know, as I keep threatening to set up Edubuntu somewhere around campus. | 11:23 |
| === lucasvo would like to write for edubuntu cookbook | ||
| kjcole | lucasvo, it's the bzr repository. | 11:24 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: ah, ok | 11:24 |
| ogra | i havent seen any slowdowns caused by other software than oo.o or firefox | 11:24 |
| lucasvo | it's the whole kde who get's loaded | 11:25 |
| ogra | especially not with only one client ... | 11:25 |
| kjcole | lucasvo, My co-re-writer and I were hoping to make a first pass through stuff before unleashing it on an unsuspecting world. ;-) | 11:25 |
| ogra | oh, you meant konversation | 11:25 |
| ogra | i though you talked about xchat :) | 11:25 |
| lucasvo | ogra: No, not at all | 11:26 |
| kjcole | ogra, spoken like the guy who's done all the hard work. ;-) | 11:26 |
| ogra | running KDE apps in gnome is as evil as running gnome apps in KDE :) | 11:26 |
| ogra | ressource wise .... | 11:27 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: Jeff Elkner convinced me to give Lore a whirl as our document format, and at least a few docteam members said they didn't care what the format was. They'd convert to whatever they liked when we finished. | 11:28 |
| === lucasvo was at the meating when it was discussed | ||
| kjcole | lucasvo: Oops. Sorry. I lose track. | 11:29 |
| lucasvo | but I neither know Lore nor Tex nor SGML | 11:29 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: no problem | 11:29 |
| kjcole | ogra, I started with the Edubuntu CD and then loaded KDE on and switched to that as my preferred system. | 11:29 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: uhm, kda | 11:30 |
| lucasvo | *kde | 11:30 |
| kjcole | ogra, Funny: Until switching to Ubuntu, I hated KDE. (My RHEL and Fedora systems all run GNOME.) | 11:30 |
| lucasvo | until switching to ubuntu I hated gnome | 11:30 |
| lucasvo | I only knew SuSE | 11:31 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: are you trying to do a book, which could be printed as well? someting more stable than wiki? | 11:31 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: Started with Slackware which I've mostly forgotten, as it was traumatic. ;-) Then Red Hat for years, with a very brief exposure to Gentoo. Now Ubuntu. | 11:32 |
| lucasvo | SuSE -> pause -> SuSE -> Ubuntu -> Debian -> Hoary -> Edubuntu -> Edubuntu Dapper | 11:32 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: Yeah. The document we're basing ours on is approximately 150 printed 8.5" x 11" pages. | 11:33 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: planning to release it on paper? | 11:34 |
| lucasvo | lucasvo@lama:~/ubuntu$ bzr get http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/ | 11:34 |
| kjcole | Lore generates nice HTML and nice PDF. We've talked about trying to get it published too. | 11:34 |
| lucasvo | bzr: ERROR: Error retrieving http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/.bzr/weaves/2a/9.png-20051204145435-503f12e97f48db0a.weave: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')> | 11:34 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: How VERY strange... Seems like it crapped out right in the middle of doing stuff. | 11:35 |
| lucasvo | exactly | 11:35 |
| lucasvo | about 33% | 11:35 |
| ogra | hmm, a bug ? | 11:35 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: Hold a sec, lemme see if something's up (or down) at this end. | 11:35 |
| lucasvo | bzr (bazaar-ng) 0.7pre | 11:35 |
| ogra | ask in #bzr | 11:35 |
| lucasvo | ogra: how many cd's will be pressed for edubuntu? | 11:36 |
| lucasvo | will there be pressed dvd? | 11:36 |
| ogra | *some thousands* is the wording i heard | 11:36 |
| ogra | nope, no DVD | 11:36 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: All appears to be up here. | 11:36 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: (And I'm also running 0.7pre.) | 11:37 |
| lucasvo | hm :( | 11:37 |
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| kjcole | lucasvo: Just to be certain, I checked to make sure the weave file was there, and it is. | 11:40 |
| lucasvo | :( | 11:41 |
| lucasvo | lucasvo@lama:~/ubuntu/Cookbook$ bzr pull | 11:41 |
| lucasvo | bzr: ERROR: No pull location known or specified. | 11:41 |
| lucasvo | The requested URL /~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/.bzr/weaves/4f/bootloaderinmemory.png-20051203011241-00800827f71ffdb7.weave: was not found on this server. | 11:41 |
| lucasvo | too late already to solve this today | 11:42 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: Have you used bzr much with other stuff? | 11:42 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: ehm yes, with ogra's ldm and s-c-p | 11:43 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: That suggests to me that the problem's at my end... But I need to leave in a few minutes. | 11:43 |
| lucasvo | how can I update bzr archive/ | 11:44 |
| kjcole | (Again though, the file's right here.) | 11:45 |
| lucasvo | bzr get? | 11:45 |
| kjcole | lucasvo: No clue. I'm fairly new to the whole RCS world. Never used anything before bzr and am only beginning with that. | 11:45 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: how do you update your bzr sources? | 11:46 |
| kjcole | Gotta run... | 11:46 |
| lucasvo | kjcole: bye | 11:46 |
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