[04:34] <lancelot> anybody here who can help me.  i was able to pxe boot but cannot continue.  the screen shows begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount then it shows done and connect then the error says connection time-out
[04:35] <mhz> lancelot: hi
[04:35] <lancelot> hi
[04:36] <mhz> did you read InstallNotes before actual install ?
[04:36] <lancelot> yes
[04:36] <mhz> sorry, but I have to ask ;)
[04:36] <mhz> ok, how much ram do you have in client?
[04:36] <mhz> and how much ram in server?
[04:36] <lancelot> i followed everything
[04:37] <lancelot> server has 256 mb ram
[04:37] <lancelot> client has 324 ram
[04:37] <mhz> okis, one variable less to consider
[04:37] <mhz> was this the first time you booted via PXE this client?
[04:37] <lancelot> yes
[04:38] <mhz> did you try a second or third time wih same client?
[04:38] <mhz> +t
[04:38] <mhz> are you using breezy (5.10) ?
[04:39] <mhz> or testing dapper
[04:39] <lancelot> yes im using brezzy
[04:39] <mhz> okis
[04:40] <mhz> and the other questions?
[04:41] <mhz> lancelot: ?
[04:41] <lancelot> im just wondering why the client boot stops at begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount
[04:42] <mhz> lancelot: but did you try booting 2nd time or third time with same client?
[04:44] <lancelot> yes
[04:45] <lancelot> it stops at begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount done
[04:45] <mhz> hmmm, I had same trouble the 1st and 2nd time
[04:45] <mhz> 3rd times as cools
[04:45] <mhz> and it was a known bug
[04:45] <mhz> lancelot: have you updated ssh-keys?
[04:46] <lancelot> no i have nt yet
[04:46] <mhz> lstp-update-sshkeys
[04:46] <mhz> and then try again
[04:46] <lancelot> ok
[04:55] <lancelot> mhz you are the man
[04:55] <lancelot> i boots now
[04:55] <lancelot> thanks
[04:56] <lancelot> but i dont have mouse input
[04:56] <mhz> hehehe
[04:56] <mhz> ooops
[04:56] <mhz> :)
[04:57] <mhz> lancelot: I am very sure i heard some guys complaining about same issues 3 weeks ago
[04:57] <mhz> but I have no clue how they solved it, sorry, lancelot 
[04:57] <mhz> ogra: ping
[04:57] <mhz> ogra: could you give some hints to lancelot about mouse input not working after booting PXE?
[04:59] <lancelot> starting hotplug subsystem fail
[05:00] <mhz> ohhh
[05:00] <mhz> have you tried same client, diff mouse?
[05:00] <lancelot> yea same thing i have two client now
[05:00] <mhz> hmmm, weired indeed
[05:01] <mhz> lancelot: if ogra is not here, i dont know who else I could ask
[05:01] <mhz> :)
[05:02] <mhz> could you try with the guys in #ltsp ?
[05:02] <mhz> i know ogra has been very close to them and they to us
[05:04] <lancelot> ok
[05:11] <mhz> lancelot: sorry I can't help you
[05:11] <lancelot> mhz: tnx 
[05:11] <mhz> yw
[07:19] <zhx> hello?
[09:21] <platos> Hi, can anyone tell me how to give my clients an dynamically generated hostname?
[09:22] <platos> Through dhcp that is.
[02:21] <jsgotangco> hey all
[02:22] <ogra> hi
[02:22] <jsgotangco> hey ogra how's it going? good i hope
[02:22] <ogra> yup, all fine
[04:42] <jsgotangco> JaneW, ping?
[04:43] <ogra> she said goodbye for the day
[04:44] <jsgotangco> oh right
[04:44] <jsgotangco> ogra, busy?
[04:44] <ogra> so, so
[04:45] <jsgotangco> ogra, can i pm you for a minute?
[04:45] <ogra> yup
[05:38] <Hendrik> Hi guys, My first time here. Question: Can I use Kubuntu as a client for and edubuntu LTSP, or how can I change to KDE in Edubuntu? New to both Linux and Edubuntu.
[05:38] <ogra> you just install kubuntu-desktop on the server ....
[05:38] <pablo--mvd> hi!
[05:38] <Hendrik> Consider me totally ignorant; sorry. How do I do that?
[05:39] <ogra> the ltsp clients are diskless, they use the servers desktop ...
[05:39] <pablo--mvd> how do i install a .deb downloaded from internet?
[05:39] <ogra> ltsp only boots them up and starts an X server
[05:40] <Hendrik> Thx. I kinda have that part figured out. Got a workstation booting up to it just fine. How do I change the desktop on the server tho? Thx for your help
[05:43] <ogra> use synaptic from the system menu ... search for kubuntu-desktop and install it
[05:46] <Hendrik> Thx, I will try that. Thx for your help ogra. Cheers
[05:49] <ogra> pablo--mvd, are you sure the deb doesnt exist in ubuntu ? and are you sure its compiled for ubuntu ? 
[05:54] <pablo--mvd> hi! ive installed iopera browser from a downloaded .deb file from opera site
[05:54] <pablo--mvd> but now the opera icon doesnt apear in the menues
[05:54] <pablo--mvd> :(
[05:54] <pablo--mvd> how do i fix this?
[05:54] <ogra> add it with the menu editor
[05:54] <pablo--mvd> tyhe .deb downloaed was said to be for ubunto distro
[05:55] <ogra> (right click the menu icon)
[05:55] <ogra> then its fine ...
[06:19] <pablo--mvd> hi! ive installed edubuntu server ok but now.. how do i install thinclientes?
[06:19] <pablo--mvd> i know edubuntu has the ltsp inclueded
[06:19] <pablo--mvd> how do i instal a thin client so that i boots and connects to the edubuntu server via ltsp?
[06:20] <lucasvo> ehm, You need to find out if the NIC are compatible
[06:20] <lucasvo> do you have PXE?
[06:30] <ogra> pablo--mvd, you read the installatio help mentioned in the topic of this channel ?
[06:41] <lucasvo> ogra: I didn't find anything about setting up clients in the edubuntu wiki
[06:42] <ogra> you dont set them up, you just boot them if the server is set up correctly ...
[06:42] <ogra> (i supposed you know that=
[06:42] <ogra> )
[06:45] <vmarks> you must have PXE. often built into the bios of machines that come with ethernet on the motherboard. Set boot order to 1st device: network and see if it works.
[06:48] <lucasvo> I don't have PXE, I am using rom Images
[06:48] <vmarks> right, off of floppies?
[06:49] <lucasvo> vmarks: yes
[06:49] <ogra> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[06:49] <vmarks> I have some cards that have roms on them with etherboot, and simply was unable to make them work and retain the PXE clients.
[06:49] <ogra> there is at least one do how to use etherboot floppies on the clients
[06:50] <ogra> what else would you want to set up on a client ? 
[06:50] <ogra> vmarks, etherboot is yet untested, i recieved some NICs for dapper testing, but didnt get to it yet 
[06:51] <ogra> i hope i can make it work out of the box like PXE for dapper
[06:57] <lucasvo> ogra: but there isn't any link from EdubuntuInstallNotes
[06:57] <lucasvo> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientSetup
[06:57] <ogra> feel free to add one
[06:58] <lucasvo> ogra: ^^^ I did
[06:58] <ogra> s/bootrom technology/boot protocol/
[07:00] <ogra> s/an be written to an EPROM, or written to a floppy disk./an be written to an EPROM, a CD-Rom or to a floppy disk./
[07:00] <ogra> else its fine :)
[07:00] <ogra> did you link it from anywhere ? 
[07:01] <lucasvo> ogra: yes, from EdubuntInstallNotes
[07:01] <ogra> great :)
[07:02] <lucasvo> ah, this is crap
[07:03] <ogra> ??
[07:03] <lucasvo> one should makr trivial changes all the time, I always forget it, poor subsrcibers who get mail because of me 10x
[07:03] <ogra> heh...
[07:05] <lucasvo> ogra: would it do any harm to http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup if one would add the next-server already now?
[07:05] <lucasvo> ogra: in that case people will have less problems
[07:06] <ogra> i'll add it to the default file in the next ltsp upload ...
[07:06] <ogra> i'm not yet sure we will keep it at all ...
[07:06] <ogra> but make a comments section at the bottom of the page and put a note there if you like
[07:07] <ogra> and point out that it only applies to dapper *now* and might still change during development ...
[07:09] <lucasvo> hm, I can't find the page anymore, something similar to LTSPServerSetup
[07:09] <ogra> its linked from the InstallNotes
[07:09] <lucasvo> ah, LTSPHowto
[07:09] <ogra> argh, nope
[07:09] <ogra> thats only for hoary and earlier
[07:10] <ogra> please dont link it to anything breezy related
[07:10] <lucasvo> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPHowTo
[07:10] <ogra> yes
[07:10] <ogra> thats not related to breezy or newer ...
[07:10] <lucasvo> Please read the LTSPClientSetup. < not linked
[07:11] <lucasvo> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientSetup exists
[07:13] <ogra> yes, but thats not clean wiki annotation, sou it needs correct quoting ... see the install notes 
[07:19] <lucasvo> ogra: I updated EdubuntuInstallNotes, ok?
[07:20] <ogra> could you put it at the end of the section ? so that the keymap setting is above ? 
[07:21] <ogra> i.e. swap the lines ...
[07:21] <lucasvo> ok
[07:21] <lucasvo> oO(one can not have problems with keyboard, if no clients are working)
[07:21] <lucasvo> :D
[07:23] <ogra> thats true, but the setting belongs to server setup ...
[07:36] <lucasvo> correct
[07:45] <pablo--mvd> if in the same net: can thin clients access a windows 2003 domain shared folder?
[07:45] <pablo--mvd> suposing that the permisions are ok 
[07:47] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: yes, but actually it would be more reasonable to mount it on the server
[07:47] <lucasvo> because the applications are running on the server
[07:48] <lucasvo> the client is nothing more than a box with keyboard and mouse, the programms run on the server
[07:57] <pablo--mvd> ok
[07:57] <pablo--mvd> thanks
[07:59] <pablo--mvd> mm and what if ive have a dhcp already running in my net (where im going to install the edubuntu server?)
[07:59] <pablo--mvd> cant i use the one ive already have? 
[08:01] <ogra> if its a linux server or you know how to set it up rigth for netbooting, sure
[08:33] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: I have it the same way...
[08:33] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: how to do it:
[08:35] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: my dhcp configuration: http://pastebin.com/472077
[08:35] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: sudo apt-get remove ltsp-server-standalone
[08:35] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[08:38] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: dhcpserver=ltspserver
[08:40] <ogra> lucasvo, he wants to use an already existent dhcp server in his net
[08:41] <ogra> i.e. dhcpserver!=ltspserver
[08:42] <ogra> and please dont advise people to remove -standalone if they want to use dhcpd locally, thats very hard to support ...
[08:42] <lucasvo> ogra: why?
[08:42] <lucasvo> ogra: why is it hard to support?
[08:43] <ogra> because it can take you hours to find out someone tolde them to break their config
[08:43] <lucasvo> it is not breaking config, it is just "using another dhcp server"
[08:44] <ogra> it is "using the same one with a non standard config nobody expects"
[08:44] <lucasvo> ogra: how would one have to set the dhcp-config, that it works with dhcp!=ltsp?
[08:44] <ogra> i.e. using /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf 
[08:44] <ogra> sudo apt-get remove dhcp3-server
[08:45] <lucasvo> :(
[08:45] <lucasvo> why should I remove it?
[08:45] <ogra> that removes -standalone as well
[08:45] <ogra> because its not used
[08:50] <pablo--mvd> wait. let me explain. i want to run edubuntu server (linux termina server) in an enviroment
[08:50] <pablo--mvd> enviroment=net thats a windows 2003 domain
[08:50] <pablo--mvd> ive already have a dhcp running there
[08:52] <ogra> so make sure the windows dhcp server points the clients to the bootimage on the ltsp server ...
[08:52] <pablo--mvd> ill make my thin clients (very old machines) boot from their own harddisk
[08:52] <ogra> and remove dhcp3-server from the edubuntu box
[08:53] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: you need to configure the windows dhcp server for pxe boot
[08:53] <pablo--mvd> no no i dont have pxe on my thin clients
[08:53] <pablo--mvd> im planning to boot then from their own hard disk
[08:53] <ogra> but the edubuntu images are PXE ones
[08:54] <ogra> you need to adjust the win server to make the clients use the image from the edubuntu server ...
[08:54] <ogra> no idea how one does that on windows
[08:55] <ogra> and the clients need PXE emulation in the etherboot image enabled, as described on the wiki
[08:55] <pablo--mvd> ok but. cant i boot the thin clients from their own hard disk and and the end of that boot process connect to the edubuntu server
[08:55] <pablo--mvd> for using its x fpor example?
[08:56] <ogra> hmm, yes, but you are on yourt own with this setup ...
[08:56] <pablo--mvd> apolications and so on?
[08:56] <pablo--mvd> :(
[08:56] <ogra> thats not even remotely ltsp
[08:58] <ogra> you could try a "server" install from the edubuntu CD on the clients and install the ltsp-client package there ... and then take a wee or two of hacking the ltsp client bootscripts to make that work ..
[08:58] <ogra> s/wee/week
[08:59] <ogra> thats a lot of fiddling
[08:59] <pablo--mvd> i thought  that ltsp allowed me to do that (have a x server) and thin clients (boot from pxe, floppy, hd etc etc) 
[09:00] <lucasvo> (boot from pxe < you can do this
[09:00] <pablo--mvd> and that thin clients at the end of their boot process conect to the x server (in this case the edubuntu server) but maybe im wrong :(
[09:00] <ogra> ltsp allows you to boot the system from tftp ... and mount the rootfs via NFS
[09:01] <ogra> thats not how ltsp works
[09:01] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: why don't you want to use pxe?
[09:01] <pablo--mvd> the thin clients are very old machines whit isa network cards!
[09:01] <pablo--mvd> they dont hace pxe
[09:02] <pablo--mvd> have pxe
[09:02] <ogra> ltsp boots a minimal system on the client it obtains the kernel via tftp, mounts / via nfs and starts an X server on the client ...
[09:02] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: you can boot from floppy
[09:02] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPClientSetup?highlight=%28ltsp%29
[09:02] <lucasvo> ogra: community council?
[09:02] <ogra> yup
[09:04] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: do they have floppy disk?
[09:07] <pablo--mvd> yes the have
[09:08] <pablo--mvd> they also have hd
[09:08] <pablo--mvd> my plann is to meke them boot from ther hd
[09:08] <pablo--mvd> but dont know how to (at the end of that boot) connect to the edubuntu server
[09:08] <ogra> you can put the etherboot image on the hd like described on the wii
[09:08] <ogra> and use ltsp as usual
[09:08] <pablo--mvd> so that they can use the X
[09:09] <pablo--mvd> aplications et cet c
[09:09] <ogra> yup
[09:09] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: do they have a CD drive?
[09:09] <pablo--mvd> no they dont
[09:09] <Hemet_Ka> P3L|C4N0,  can I talk to you by query?
[09:09] <ogra> just copy the etherboot image on the HD like the wiki describes 
[09:10] <ogra> then make sure your win dhcp points the clients to the edubuntu server for the tftp stuff ...
[09:10] <lucasvo> pablo--mvd: 1. find the nic ID
[09:11] <lucasvo> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe < step 1
[09:18] <pablo--mvd> ok thnaks im reading the wiki
[09:45] <lucasvo> ogra: why should one participate the edubuntu team?
[09:47] <ogra> because you have an interest in edubuntu ? 
[10:01] <lucasvo> ogra: hm, so I "don't" have to activly develop edubuntu?
[10:02] <ogra> lucasvo, doing active work on edubuntu would include writing docs, giving support and everything else that helps it ..
[10:02] <irvin> lucasvo, you don't need too
[10:02] <lucasvo> ogra: so could I join?
[10:02] <ogra> or promote it on fairs ... or hang around here and give valuable comments ;)
[10:03] <ogra> sure :)
[10:03] <hybrid> will there be Edubuntu discs with Dapper?
[10:03] <ogra> there are :)
[10:04] <ogra> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2005-December/000927.html
[10:04] <ogra> stay away from the current dailies, they are broken ...
[10:04] <hybrid> i mean shipit Cds
[10:05] <ogra> nope
[10:05] <ogra> oh, i mean yes, thats planned
[10:05] <hybrid> lol
[10:05] <ogra> but there are none for breezy
[10:05] <hybrid> cool
[10:05] <hybrid> so i have seen
[10:05] <ogra> but it will be a very limited amount
[10:05] <irvin> someone has to sponsor it :-)
[10:06] <hybrid> well i will start preparing around march or so
[10:06] <hybrid> ;)
[10:06] <ogra> sabdfl does ... but only a limited amount
[10:06] <hybrid> i am thinking of installing it on a comp for my younder brothers
[10:06] <ogra> you can buy the breezy CDs in several online shops if you dont have a CD writer 
[10:07] <ogra> i.e. amu sells them ...
[10:07] <hybrid> its not that
[10:07] <ogra> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/GettingEdubuntu
[10:07] <hybrid> its my connection sucks
[10:08] <ogra> they are very cheap ... 
[10:08] <ogra> less than $2 or 2 
[10:09] <hybrid> i wish i was around alot of Linux people
[10:09] <hybrid> i would do an installfest
[10:11] <lucasvo> ogra: thanks
[11:06] <lucasvo> hm, how did you do your hackergotchi?
[11:07] <ogra> with gimp
[11:07] <lucasvo> ogra: I had hours to do it :D
[11:07] <lucasvo> https://launchpad.net/people/lucasvo
[11:07] <ogra> takes me 10 mins to do one ...
[11:07] <lucasvo> ogra: how do you do it/
[11:08] <ogra> took me more time to remove the dark shadows below my eyes ;)
[11:08] <lucasvo> :-)
[11:08] <ogra> you did fiddle with the shadow settings ... 
[11:09] <ogra> you should leave the default or at least onyl adjust it minimally ... but you centered it
[11:09] <lucasvo> hm?
[11:09] <lucasvo> how can one do shadow?
[11:09] <ogra> in yours ...
[11:09] <ogra> how did you do it ? 
[11:09] <ogra> there is a shadow filter in gimp, that does it for you
[11:10] <ogra> or a script-fu
[11:10] <lucasvo> ok
[11:11] <ogra> use the magic wnd to make a clean cut out of your head, use fuzzy edges there ... 
[11:11] <ogra> then just use the shadow function and align the layers that it creates a bit
[11:11] <ogra> s/wnd/wand
[11:12] <lucasvo> where is the shadow function?
[11:12] <ogra> anywhere in script-fu
[11:12] <ogra> or in the filters
[11:12] <ogra> drop shadow ...
[11:17] <pablo--mvd> is ltsp included en edubuntu latest release?
[11:17] <ogra> yup
[11:17] <ogra> its installed by default
[11:18] <lucasvo> hi MrMazda 
[11:18] <lucasvo> hi kjcole 
[11:18] <MrMazda> lucasvo: :)
[11:19] <MrMazda> now using SeaMonkey 1.0b, just released today
[11:19] <kjcole> Hi,  I'm just experimenting with X-Chat to see if I like it better than Konversation.  So far, the answer's "No".
[11:19] <lucasvo> kjcole: irssi is the best
[11:19] <lucasvo> 100% bloatware free (tm)
[11:20] <kjcole> lucasvo, have you used the others?  (I used Chatzilla briefly too, but find myself liking Konversation a lot.)
[11:20] <lucasvo> kjcole: yes, I use gaim for msn and for other irc networks I rarely go to
[11:21] <lucasvo> I also used Xchat for a little bit 
[11:21] <lucasvo> and mIRC :P
[11:21] <lucasvo> but I couldn't live without irssi
[11:21] <kjcole> lucasvo, I meant comparing it with konversation (which does seem bloated).
[11:22] <lucasvo> kjcole: I don't know konversation
[11:23] <lucasvo> I only know, as soon as my sister uses it over ltsp, my server slows down
[11:23] <lucasvo> http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/ < kjcole, launchpad is linking to it, what should be in there?
[11:23] <kjcole> lucasvo, That's good to know, as I keep threatening to set up Edubuntu somewhere around campus.
[11:24] <kjcole> lucasvo, it's the bzr repository.
[11:24] <lucasvo> kjcole: ah, ok
[11:24] <ogra> i havent seen any slowdowns caused by other software than oo.o or firefox
[11:25] <lucasvo> it's the whole kde who get's loaded
[11:25] <ogra> especially not with only one client ...
[11:25] <kjcole> lucasvo, My co-re-writer and I were hoping to make a first pass through stuff before unleashing it on an unsuspecting world. ;-)
[11:25] <ogra> oh, you meant konversation
[11:25] <ogra> i though you talked about xchat :)
[11:26] <lucasvo> ogra: No, not at all
[11:26] <kjcole> ogra, spoken like the guy who's done all the hard work. ;-)
[11:26] <ogra> running KDE apps in gnome is as evil as running gnome apps in KDE :)
[11:27] <ogra> ressource wise ....
[11:28] <kjcole> lucasvo: Jeff Elkner convinced me to give Lore a whirl as our document format, and at least a few docteam members said they didn't care what the format was.  They'd convert to whatever they liked when we finished.
[11:29] <kjcole> lucasvo: Oops.  Sorry.  I lose track.
[11:29] <lucasvo> but I neither know Lore nor Tex nor SGML
[11:29] <lucasvo> kjcole: no problem
[11:29] <kjcole> ogra, I started with the Edubuntu CD and then loaded KDE on and switched to that as my preferred system.  
[11:30] <lucasvo> kjcole: uhm, kda
[11:30] <lucasvo> *kde
[11:30] <kjcole> ogra, Funny: Until switching to Ubuntu, I hated KDE.  (My RHEL and Fedora systems all run GNOME.)
[11:30] <lucasvo> until switching to ubuntu I hated gnome
[11:31] <lucasvo> I only knew SuSE 
[11:31] <lucasvo> kjcole: are you trying to do a book, which could be printed as well? someting more stable than wiki?
[11:32] <kjcole> lucasvo: Started with Slackware which I've mostly forgotten, as it was traumatic. ;-)  Then Red Hat for years, with a very brief exposure to Gentoo.  Now Ubuntu.
[11:32] <lucasvo> SuSE -> pause -> SuSE -> Ubuntu -> Debian -> Hoary -> Edubuntu -> Edubuntu Dapper 
[11:33] <kjcole> lucasvo: Yeah.  The document we're basing ours on is approximately 150 printed 8.5" x 11" pages.
[11:34] <lucasvo> kjcole: planning to release it on paper? 
[11:34] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~/ubuntu$ bzr get http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/
[11:34] <kjcole> Lore generates nice HTML and nice PDF.  We've talked about trying to get it published too.
[11:34] <lucasvo> bzr: ERROR: Error retrieving http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/.bzr/weaves/2a/9.png-20051204145435-503f12e97f48db0a.weave: <urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')>
[11:35] <kjcole> lucasvo: How VERY strange... Seems like it crapped out right in the middle of doing stuff.
[11:35] <lucasvo> exactly
[11:35] <lucasvo> about 33%
[11:35] <ogra> hmm, a bug ? 
[11:35] <kjcole> lucasvo: Hold a sec, lemme see if something's up (or down) at this end.
[11:35] <lucasvo> bzr (bazaar-ng) 0.7pre
[11:35] <ogra> ask in #bzr 
[11:36] <lucasvo> ogra: how many cd's will be pressed for edubuntu?
[11:36] <lucasvo> will there be pressed dvd?
[11:36] <ogra> *some thousands* is the wording i heard
[11:36] <ogra> nope, no DVD
[11:36] <kjcole> lucasvo: All appears to be up here.
[11:37] <kjcole> lucasvo: (And I'm also running 0.7pre.)
[11:37] <lucasvo> hm :(
[11:40] <kjcole> lucasvo: Just to be certain, I checked to make sure the weave file was there, and it is.
[11:41] <lucasvo> :(
[11:41] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~/ubuntu/Cookbook$ bzr pull
[11:41] <lucasvo> bzr: ERROR: No pull location known or specified.
[11:41] <lucasvo> The requested URL /~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook/.bzr/weaves/4f/bootloaderinmemory.png-20051203011241-00800827f71ffdb7.weave: was not found on this server.
[11:42] <lucasvo> too late already to solve this today
[11:42] <kjcole> lucasvo: Have you used bzr much with other stuff?
[11:43] <lucasvo> kjcole: ehm yes, with ogra's ldm and s-c-p
[11:43] <kjcole> lucasvo: That suggests to me that the problem's at my end... But I need to leave in a few minutes.
[11:44] <lucasvo> how can I update bzr archive/
[11:45] <kjcole> (Again though, the file's right here.)
[11:45] <lucasvo> bzr get?
[11:45] <kjcole> lucasvo: No clue.  I'm fairly new to the whole RCS world.  Never used anything before bzr and am only beginning with that.
[11:46] <lucasvo> kjcole: how do you update your bzr sources?
[11:46] <kjcole> Gotta run...
[11:46] <lucasvo> kjcole: bye