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stashlywhat is the quickest way to add repos?12:10
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tvonmanually edit /etc/apt/sources.list perhaps?12:11
stashlythats long12:11
stashlyquickert han that12:11
sampan!easysource12:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:11
tvonfancy12:12
sampan^^^ can always let ubuntu generate a custom sources.list for you12:12
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Lacertakakei: are you still there?12:17
kakeiyes12:18
Lacertai did that thing to my wlan0 and it's now enabled in the system settings :))12:18
kakeiyou are sharing internet Now?12:19
Lacertaumm.. no i need to do some trick in the winXP12:19
Lacertabut i've never been so far :)12:19
kakeiahaha12:19
kakei:D12:19
Lacertathe winXP automatic network configuration probably won't work12:21
Lacertai've never done this manually in windows actually12:22
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Coolio10hi12:27
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ninnghizidhaHello! I'm looking for an automount in KDE12:42
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triodehello, how can I change the default application associated with wav files? and, what's a good JACK enabled really simple wav player?12:42
crimsunalsaplayer?12:42
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LacertaIIIuuh.. the hell i'm doing?12:43
kakeiLacertaIII no u have Internet?12:43
LacertaIIIuh.. no?12:44
kakeii mean12:44
kakeiare u sharing internet now?12:44
LacertaIIIi'm trying12:44
kakeiwhats wrong?12:45
LacertaIIIXP is just...12:45
triodehow can I change the default application associated with wav files?12:45
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kakeiis just..?12:45
LacertaIIInothing12:45
LacertaIIIi suck12:45
triodecrimsun: thanks! that's what I was looking for12:45
triode:)12:45
kakeiLacerta o.o12:46
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LacertaIIIi can't use xp.. how the hell do i add a gateway?12:46
LacertaIIIi added a netwirk bridge, is it the same thing?12:47
kakeiin12:47
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kakeisettings12:47
stashlyamarok wont play mp3s12:47
stashlywould should i do12:47
kakeiin settings u will see something like12:47
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NCLifehi12:47
kakeistashly12:47
NCLifeany ipod gurus?12:47
kakeisudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:47
kakeisudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg12:47
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kakeisudo aptitude install libmad012:47
kakeigst-register-0.812:47
kakeiand then go to the engine/motor of amaroK and choose output plugin alsaink or something what sound12:48
kakeistashly u got it?12:48
stashlyyeah thank youi. i ll try it12:48
stashlyi am installing linux for the first time12:48
kakei:)12:49
stashlyliking the view12:49
kakeistashly KDE owns12:49
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NCLifei get a error message when i try to read the ipods itunes_DB on gtkpod12:49
kakeiNCLife which error12:50
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NCLifekakei, '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.12:50
NCLifethats the error message12:50
stashlyoh my its so lovely12:51
kakeiare u sure u have it mounted?12:51
kakeistashly Done :)?12:51
stashlyyeah12:51
kakeiwohooooo12:51
stashlymusik is playin nice and loud now12:51
NCLifemmh.. well, it is on my desktop and i can access it as a hd..12:51
kakeiNCLife hmmmmmmmm12:51
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kakeiu have all ur ata in iTunesDB?12:52
fdelacruzGud Day guys! advance Holiday12:52
NCLifethat im not sure12:52
kakeitrie just12:52
kakei /media/ipod12:52
x-raypls ...can anyone help me ?12:52
kakeix-ray whats ur problem12:52
NCLifekakei, where should i try /media/ipod12:53
x-rayhow i can manage users (root) in shell ? im beginner in linux :-[12:53
kakeiNCLife12:53
kakeiput it on konqueror12:53
kakeion the URL12:53
kakeix-ray sudo su12:53
kakeix-ray http://ubuntuguide.org/ this will be helpful for u12:54
x-raythy :-)12:55
NCLifekakei, No Items, No Files, No Folders ..12:55
NCLifethats what it says12:55
tvon'sudo -s' gets you a root shell12:55
kakeiNClife12:55
kakeiNCLife and /media/ipod/iPod_Control ?12:55
x-rayi go to root's shell by "su root"12:56
kakeiNCLife u can try with console using cd to join thje folder and ls to watch the content12:56
tvonx-ray: that will only work if you gave root a password12:56
stashlyi am having trouble working my ipod too12:56
stashlycant get it to come up, nor do i have a program for it12:56
x-rayi gave it12:56
NCLifekakei, yes.. i browsed to /media/ipod and there is all my ipod, including iPod_Control and all12:57
NCLifebut typing /media/ipod/iPod_Control on konqueror didnt show up nothing O.O12:57
kakeitry with the next folder12:57
kakeior go back12:57
kakeiand watch ipod folders12:57
NCLifeokays12:58
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x-raybut if i can change anythink in KDE > system settings > network (users) etc.. in "Administration mode" i give true pass..but it doesn't work :(12:58
x-rayit is still in normal view mode (no admin.)12:59
NCLifei browsed with the console, im in /media/ipod/iPod_Control now.. what should i do now?12:59
tvonx-ray: use your password there, not the one you gave root12:59
tvonx-ray: there is no reason to have a root password in kubuntu01:00
x-rayyes..i have all pass same ..01:00
tvonit really just makes things confusing01:00
NCLifekakei, typing ls does not make nothing01:00
x-raybut i was changing something in users & groups with root, and since then it doesn't work :((01:01
NCLifekakei, the first time i entered iPod_Control browsing with the file browser there were documents inside, no i reentered iPod_Control and nothing is there O.O01:02
kakeiweird01:02
kakeirefresh it01:02
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NCLifenothing :(01:02
x-rayok, then, how i can destroy password in root account ?01:03
x-rayin shell ?01:03
x-rayplsplspls :-))01:03
x-ray:-*01:03
fdelacruzguys any effective free antivirus aside from avg, bitdefender, avast and clamwin?01:04
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NCLifewell, and another question.. after i unmount it i still have the "do not disconnect" message.. any idea how can i eject it totally? ive tried "eject /dev/sda2" and it says "unable to open /dev/sda2" kakeei, nothing is working :(01:05
NCLife:P01:05
kakeiNCLife01:06
x-raypls NClife .. u are my sole chance01:06
kakeihmmmm01:06
kakeii don't know lol01:06
NCLifeheh >_<01:08
NCLifedang01:08
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NCLifex-ray, sorry.. im really noob at kubuntu, i cant help you with nothing01:09
x-raysoorry..01:09
x-rayi meda it now with Kuser..01:09
x-raymade01:09
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sampanx-ray  searching the ubuntu forums yields (to remove a root pass): sudo passwd -l root01:10
sampannever done it myself, so can't vouch from first-hand experience though01:10
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x-rayoukey01:11
x-raylast q. .. when am i in root group, can i make anything ? ( write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. etc.. ?)???? and when the root user is blocked .. :-)01:14
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seth_k|lappyx-ray, you don't need to be root to write to system files. Just use sudo: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or whatever01:16
sampanx-ray, yes, root can do anything.  but in ubuntu/kubuntu they use "sudo" which gives you the power of root, without having to enable a root account at all01:17
x-rayou..thy all :-)01:17
seth_k|lappyThis is safer because it means that a potential hacker has to guess your username, as WELL as your password. Plus it encourages you not to run for an extended length of time using a root account01:17
x-ray:-O01:18
sampanand probably less hassle too -- you're less likely to forget your user pass than a root pass (if you don't log into it for a while)01:18
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x-rayok . i disable root account .. and all will do with sudo vi /etc/...01:19
seth_k|lappyit takes some getting used to if you're used to root / non-root, but it's really the better way01:19
seth_k|lappy:)01:19
_particlehey01:20
_particleeh, wrong name01:20
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Zenthere we go01:20
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x-rayok .. that was all nice.. but i still cannot edit  all in Administration mode (in KDE)..i write my pass, but it do nothing01:21
sampanx-ray, is it a fresh breezy install?01:22
seth_k|lappyx-ray, you will need to update to KDE 3.501:22
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x-rayyes...but i made something in User & groups ... :(01:22
x-rayi have kde 3.5 afaik01:22
seth_k|lappyhmm01:22
sampanx-ray, there was an administrator bug in the breezy cd release -- updates fixed it01:23
x-rayok :-)01:23
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x-rayooooooooooooohhh..01:23
x-rayi have KDE 3.4.3 :-!01:23
x-raythy vm !!01:23
seth_k|lappy!kde3.501:24
ubotusomebody said kde3.5 was http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:24
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sampanwell i didn't have to upgrade to 3.5 to fix that bug01:24
seth_k|lappysampan, yeah, there's a breezy-updates for it too01:24
seth_k|lappybut might as well do 3.5 while you're at it :)01:24
sampani dunno -- haven't been paying much attention last few days, but prior to that seemed like a lot of people had 'issues' with 3.501:25
NCLifehow do i get access to root on a terminal? :p01:25
x-raysudo ? :-)01:25
sampanpersonally, i take a more conservative approach i guess -- if the community in #debian was more friendly i might have switched, since i think a 6 month release schedule by its very nature promotes "upgraditis"01:25
NCLifethanks x-ray01:26
=== sampan has little need to upgrade a bunch of stuff (with all the buggage and breakage that comes with it) every month or two
x-ray:-))01:27
x-rayhow i install the KDE 3.5 ?? .. i did all in page kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php01:27
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x-raypackage manager ? :-)01:28
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pussfelleradd deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to yer sources01:29
seth_k|lappyif you did everything in kde-35.php, then just use Adept Updater, sure :)01:29
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x-rayupgrading :--)))) thy alllllllllllllllll !!!!!!!!!! :-)01:30
x-rayhow i can improve my refresh rate ? .. i wrote to xorg.conf HorizSync of my monitor, and refresh rate, but max it gives 85Hz, but i used in M$ 100Hz :((01:32
pussfellerany one using dapper? is it working ok?01:32
seth_k|lappypussfeller, working fine here on two computers01:32
seth_k|lappyMUCH faster01:32
pussfelleroh yeah01:32
x-rayhow i can improve my refresh rate ? .. i wrote to xorg.conf HorizSync of my monitor, and refresh rate, but max it gives 85Hz, but i used in M$ 100Hz :((01:33
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x-rayam i ok ?01:38
x-rayconnection problem :(01:38
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Logicmaxanyone here know how to get the bootloader to work, i'm trying grub, but the gnu doesnm01:44
Logicmaxdoesn't apear01:44
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Spandexxhi guy quick question:  why I install ubuntu = no problem and Kubuntu BIG NIC problem?01:49
Spandexx...01:51
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stisevhi all01:52
Spandexxguess nobody know01:52
Spandexxhummm nobody knows about NIC problems on Kubuntu Breezy01:52
Spandexx^01:53
Spandexx?01:53
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Snake__what kind of nic01:53
SpandexxThinkpad R5101:53
Snake__hmmm wired or wireless?01:53
Spandexxworks well with Ubuntu01:53
Spandexxboth!01:53
Snake__Oh01:53
Spandexxdoesn,t work on Kubuntu...01:53
SpandexxI like more KDE ;)01:54
Snake__Perhaps you missed a packet on install....try reinstalling kubuntu/01:54
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Snake__Because ubuntu and kubuntu are the same...just diffrent defualt GUIs01:54
Spandexxdone that and same problem01:54
Snake__Hell you could install gnome onto kubuntu if you wanted...01:55
SpandexxI know snake....on the install they use diff drivers01:55
Snake__Perhaps install ubuntu, and change to kde??01:55
Spandexxwould it create problems^] 01:55
Snake__Dunno never done it :-P01:55
Spandexxhehheehe01:55
SpandexxI am new to Linux but found this bizarre01:56
Snake__umm i wish there was a vet in here01:56
Snake__wheres hobbsee when you need her01:56
stisevi'm having problems with GRUB bootloader01:56
stisevI'm doing a triple boot01:56
stisev( GRUB)   - Windows XP  (main) - Kubuntu - OSX01:57
stisev(I have licenses to all)01:57
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stisevthe only problem is, is that I can't seem to set the oSX partition as active01:57
stisevI've tried with FDisk01:57
stisevand inside windows, but it doesn't work01:57
Snake__stisev: sorry im not sure01:57
Snake__We need a guru in here01:57
Snake__lol01:57
artnayKDE users, care to take a look at this? "Package not available" - it installed properly (at least it seems so) by forcing01:57
artnaycould you confirm before filing a bug?01:58
stisevlol01:58
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tvonI like how you felt the need to mention that you have licenses ;)02:02
dell500stisev, do ytou get the splash screen?02:02
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dell500for grub02:03
stisevback02:03
stisevyes02:03
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DewDudeok, i was a kubuntu user on PPC..but now i'm going to x86..i asked this in ubuntu, but, so much activity, it probably got ignored...but will ubuntu auto-detect and auto-confiugure NTFS02:06
DewDudeor have i got to add a bunch of stuff02:06
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bimberiDewDude: yes it should , but otherwise there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:07
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Fri13atleast ubuntu and kubuntu has done those for me.02:07
Fri13both did add NTFS partitions to my desktop02:07
JochenHey boys...02:08
JochenI need your help!02:08
JochenHow do I install a debian package on kubuntu?02:08
DewDudealrighty02:08
DewDudecuz i've been XP on this box for a while02:08
DewDudeand i use NTFS because i don't feel like waking up to corrupted FAT and losing everything02:09
DewDudei'm planning on having a 20GB fat32 partition for temp storage as i'm going to be dual-booting02:09
DewDudeso...great02:09
JochenNobody knows the answer?!02:09
DewDudeummm02:09
bimberiDewDude: k, i guess you know that ntfs access is read-only02:09
DewDudeyeah02:09
bimberik :)02:09
DewDudewhich is why i was windows on this box02:10
andreas_it's read-only unless you're a very very brave person02:10
DewDudei ran kubuntu quite well on my imac02:10
DewDudehahaha02:10
DewDudeyeah02:10
DewDudeit's been that way for years02:10
bimberiandreas_: well yes :)02:10
DewDudewhich is why i've got a 20 gig FAT32 partition02:10
bimberiJochen: what's the package?02:10
andreas_yeah I got a similar setup02:10
DewDudeso if i download stuff in linux..i can still get it over to the main repository on the 120gig02:10
DewDudewhat i'd like to do is find a journled file system that works with xp and linux02:11
bimberiJochen: you can, by installing using dpkg and making sure as many dependencies as possible come from ubuntu repositories02:11
DewDudethis is going to be fun..i haven't used ubuntu since october02:12
DewDudebefore octobrt02:12
DewDudeoctober02:12
BlueEagledewdude: ext3 works (not very well but it works) in WinXP.02:13
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DewDudewell02:13
DewDudethat's the thing, i want something that works02:13
DewDudei've got 115 gigs of music02:13
DewDudei had to restore from backups once02:13
DewDudei really don't want to again02:13
BlueEaglehttp://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm02:13
DewDudei tried the ext3 in XP before02:13
DewDudeand it worked, but was really slow02:13
BlueEagledewdude: Set up an old machine and share it over nfs or smb.02:13
BlueEagledewdude: Yes, it is slow.02:14
DewDudeBlueEagle: well, i don't NEED to write to the NTFS partition02:14
DewDudei thought of that already02:14
BlueEagledewdude: A machine on 100MBit lan shared with SMB would probably be just as fast or even faster.02:14
DewDudeumm02:14
DewDudeyes02:14
DewDudei know02:14
DewDudebut02:14
DewDudei said02:14
BlueEaglebut what?02:14
DewDudei solved that problem02:14
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DewDudei don't need direct write access02:14
bimberiBlueEagle: there's also http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/02:14
DewDudein the FUTURE i might02:14
DewDudebut02:14
DewDuderight now, no02:14
BlueEagledewdude: Well ok then. Still why haven't you set up a file server yet? :p02:15
DewDudebecause02:15
DewDudethe access times are shit02:15
DewDudei tried that before02:15
DewDude100MBit doesn't mean 100mBit02:15
BlueEagledewdude: Not if you use a 10MBit hub it doesn't. :)02:16
DewDudei'm using a 100mbit switch02:16
DewDudeit's mostly a limitation of my systems02:16
BlueEagleI see.02:17
DewDudeand most systems02:17
DewDudei've NEVER seen two LAN pc's hit more than a meg/sec sustained transfer02:17
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DewDudei'm dealing with a lot of audio data..at least in the XP world02:17
DewDudebut02:17
DewDudei'd rather not have my music on the network02:17
DewDudeplus..i can't afford to build a second PC02:18
DewDudei've got this box..and an imac02:18
DewDudeok, cigarette break while the ISO burns02:18
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jahshuawhat is that02:32
jahshuaits in my ps x02:32
DewDudealrighty, ISO burned02:34
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Johnsonhi i need some help02:37
Johnson+i02:38
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Johnsonhi02:46
Johnsonanyone here?02:46
Johnsoni need some help?02:46
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emptystaplerTwo things: one - when I lock my workstation with "Lock Session", I can't log back in. my password doesn't work, and it just says "Unlock failed", forcing me to ctrl+alt+backspace the x server (shouldn't that be disabled during a lock!?)02:48
emptystaplertwo - for some reason, kde isn't saving my logitech mouse settings02:48
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emptystaplerall of this with 5.1002:49
emptystaplerand KDE 3.502:50
Riddellemptystapler: the lock session is a known problem, I've no idea what causes it, if you could send me your ~/.kde that would be useful02:52
Riddelljriddell@ubuntu.com02:52
emptystaplersure.02:53
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emptystaplerwith the logitech settings, I meant it's not saving them between sessions02:53
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emptystaplerRiddell: when you say send you ~/.kde, do you need a specific file, or a zip of the entire thing?02:56
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raphinkemptystapler: I think he meant a tarball of the whole thing03:01
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kakeiany one pls help me i dont know why the load of my CPU everytime is 100%03:02
emptystaplertarball it is!03:03
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emptystaplerhm, Ark throws an error tarring the directory03:03
raphinkkakei: did you launch ksysguard to check what app is eating the memory?03:04
emptystaplerunfortunately it doesn't say what exactly went wrong03:04
raphinkhmmm03:04
raphinkthen just do it in a terminal ;)03:04
raphinktar -cvzf yourtarball.tar.gz yourfoldersource03:05
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emptystaplerokay, okay :)03:05
emptystaplerhmmm, same error03:06
raphinkwhat does it say?03:06
emptystaplerah. this time i can see enough console output to find the problem03:06
emptystaplerjust a lousy permissions problem trying to archive kate's configs03:06
raphinkhmm03:06
raphinknot readable ?03:06
raphinko_O03:06
kakeiraphink : yes03:07
raphinkkakei: and?03:07
emptystaplermore than just that, too03:07
kakeiim killing03:07
raphinkkakei: don't kill too much ;)03:07
emptystapler./home/dan/.kde/share/config/katesyntaxhighlightingrc03:07
raphinkemptystapler: what is the ls -l output on this file ?03:07
Johnson_  HI I NEED HELP03:07
Johnson_whoops03:08
raphinkdon't shout Johnson_ i'm almost asleep03:08
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emptystapler-rw-------  1 root root03:08
raphinkemptystapler: that's indeed a problem03:08
Johnson_has any one used the theme mech atall?03:08
raphinklet me check here03:08
emptystaplerhehehe03:08
emptystapleri wonder if this stems from me accidentally sudo'ing kate?03:08
raphink-rw-------  1 raphink raphink 28433 2005-12-05 19:14 /home/raphink/.kde/share/config/katesyntaxhighlightingrc03:08
emptystapler(before i learned about kdesu)03:08
raphinkemptystapler: type03:08
pussfelleris there anything funky i need compile kernel modules, i have linux-headers, build essentials03:09
raphinksudo chown dan:dan -rw-------  1 raphink raphink 28433 2005-12-05 19:14 /home/dan/.kde/share/config/katesyntaxhighlightingrc03:09
pussfellerand the source03:09
raphinkthat'll set your problem03:09
LacertaIIhow can i make the system to load my wlan driver's modules at boot time?03:09
emptystaplerraphink: it was more thanjust that one file03:09
emptystaplerraphink: other kate files, as well03:09
raphinkemptystapler: then do it on the entire .kde ;)03:10
emptystaplergood idea03:10
raphinksudo chown -r dan:dan ~/.kde03:10
raphinkall these files should be belong to you anyway ;)03:10
seth_k|lappyno, raphink, you need -R03:10
emptystapler-R03:10
emptystapler;)03:10
emptystapleri am not TOTALLY clueless! ha!03:10
raphinkseth_k|lappy: right, thanks :)03:10
Johnson_dose any one know how to install a KDE theme?03:10
seth_k|lappyhehe03:10
raphinkJohnson_: go to kcontrol or systemsettings03:11
raphinkthen apperance -> themes03:11
raphinkand click install a new theme03:11
emptystaplerbingo03:11
raphinkand select the archive of the theme you downloaded ;)03:11
raphinkunless you want the manual way, using a console :)03:11
raphinkJohnson_: the first thing being to check if your theme has not been packaged already03:12
raphinkso that using apt-get might install it03:12
emptystaplerI STILL can't find out how to sort Kopete contacts alphabetically. nobody in #kde is responding, either03:12
raphinkthere are a few packaged themese03:12
raphinks/themese/themes/03:12
raphinkhmm03:13
raphinkthey are sorted alphabetically by default, _inside_ each group03:13
emptystapleruntrue!03:13
Johnson_this theme still isnt working03:14
raphinkhmm well it has always been true on my kopete at least emptystapler03:14
emptystaplermine are currently sorted as such: c, C, L, P, T, Z, a, a, f, F, F, K, m, P, q, R, r03:14
raphinkon all machines i've used03:14
raphinkthat's interesting03:14
raphinkmy groups are sorted alphabetically03:14
raphinkand inside each gruop03:14
emptystaplermore annoying than interesting!03:14
raphinkcontacts are sorted alphabetically aswell03:14
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raphinkoh well I wouldnt min03:15
raphinkmind03:15
Johnson_even though i added it03:15
emptystaplerwell, the worst thing is they mix up every time i load it03:15
Johnson_strange03:15
raphinkJohnson_: are you sure this theme works with your kde verison?03:15
seth_k|lappyhiya robotgeek :)03:15
raphinks/verison/version/03:15
robotgeekhey seth_k|lappy03:15
raphinkhi robotgeek03:15
emptystaplerraphink: curious... my offline users group is sorted properly03:16
emptystaplerjust not ONLINE users03:16
raphinkhmmm03:16
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raphinkweird03:16
raphinkwhat version of kopete ?03:16
jahshuahelp! help!03:16
jahshuamy adept just crashed03:16
jahshuawhen i clicked on install for bittorrent03:16
raphinkhmm that happens03:16
Johnson_how do find out wot version i havce?03:16
robotgeekhey raphink03:16
raphinkjahshua: doesnt sound like someone just died03:16
jahshuawho said anything about dying03:17
raphinkJohnson_: Help -> About KDE03:17
raphinkin any KDE program03:17
raphinkjahshua: well you sound like this an urgency ;)03:17
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emptystapleris there some all emcompassing development package i can install so i'lla ctually have a compiler?03:17
raphinkone can live without adept and be (very) happy ;)03:17
raphinkemptystapler: build-essential ?03:18
jahshuaraphink im new on kubuntu and i thought maybe that was serious, guess its not :p03:18
raphinkjahshua: well adept is just a gui to apt-get03:18
raphinkjahshua: as long as it's not apt-get being screwed up03:18
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raphinkI don't consider it's a big issue03:19
raphinkhi Hobbsee03:19
emptystaplergah, now adept isn't working!03:19
emptystapleras in, it doesn't load03:19
Johnson_yeh i got the tight version for it03:19
KnowerrorsAnybody using Superkaramba 0.37?03:19
Hobbseehi raphink!03:19
Johnson_right03:19
HobbseeKnowerrors: think so, yes03:19
KnowerrorsHeyhey Hobbsee03:19
Hobbseehey Knowerrors03:20
KnowerrorsHobbsee: Im getting poor performance with SuperKaramba, my cpu spikes up and down rapidly on some themes...03:20
seth_k|lappyhiya Hobbsee, jonathan wanted to know if you still had that new kmymoney2 deb03:20
emptystaplerhurray for build-essential!03:20
seth_k|lappyfor breezy03:20
raphinkKnowerrors: yeah03:20
seth_k|lappyKnowerrors, I am as well... but I get like 5% CPU use on idle. What themes?03:21
raphinksuperkaramba is the best way to get your proc busy03:21
Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: the deb of it?03:21
Hobbseelet me go have a look...03:21
emptystaplerlol03:21
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, yes'm03:21
Johnson_has anyone ever used the theme mech-tex 50003:21
emptystaplerAdept only seems to load like every other time I run it03:21
Knowerrorsseth_k|lappy: : Kuartet03:22
Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: indeed, i do have the one for breezy03:22
KnowerrorsIm using the deb from the kde 3.5 repo03:22
neoncodeHey, how do I get this command to work?03:22
neoncodeln -s /media/0 GB Disk (hdb1)/WINDOWS/system32/*.dll03:22
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, Riddell said people on the mailing list were pretty interested in having a backport03:22
Knowerrorsof Superkaramba .3703:22
Johnson_can ou get animated login creens?03:22
Johnson_screens03:23
Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: ah, ok, so where should i send it to, and what do i send?  just the .deb?03:23
Johnson_i think i have seen it before03:23
Johnson_but im not sure03:23
raphinkneoncode: use \ before spaces in names03:23
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KnowerrorsDange slow dialup :(03:23
Knowerrorsdid I missanything?03:23
raphinkso /media/0\ GB\ Disk\ (hdb1)/WINDOWS/system32/*.dll03:23
seth_k|lappyKnowerrors, nope03:23
raphinkor change your fstab to mount on smarter dirs ;)03:24
raphinkneoncode: you might also need a second argument for ln -s imo ;)03:24
neoncoderaphink: I think I got it to work03:25
raphinkgood03:25
neoncoderaphink: Thanks though!03:25
KnowerrorsKuartet is really cool, turns your desktop into a combo control center/K menu/system monitor, similar to Symphony/Mezzo03:25
Knowerrorsthough it just came out, so performance is a little wack03:25
dell500anyone here know how to install the new gtkpod from the source?03:26
seth_k|lappydell500, what version? I could backport for you if you like?03:27
Johnson_dose any one here use super karamba?03:28
seth_k|lappyJohnson_, I do, Hobbsee does, Knowerrors does03:28
seth_k|lappywhat's up?03:28
seth_k|lappydell500, give me a bit to package 0.99 for dapper, and then I'll backport it for you :)03:29
Johnson_well i just found areally cool theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27046 this one03:29
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Johnson_and i installed it ok and i think iv installed the drivers but my desktop hasnt got thoes nice red monitor bits in stating th hd temo and cpu tmep ect.03:30
raphinkde gustibus et coloribus non discutandum03:30
Snake__Hey Hobbsee's here03:30
Snake__We need you erliar (sp?)03:30
Hobbseehi03:30
Hobbseeyeah, i am, sorta03:31
Snake__o.003:31
Snake__sorta?03:31
KnowerrorsJohnson_: you probably don't have the hardware monitor or sensor packages it needs03:31
Johnson_i gott he sesor packages03:31
Johnson_well it said so on synaptic03:31
Hobbseewell, trying to find somewhere to upload, and reading multiple windows03:32
Johnson_but not sure about the hardware monitor?03:32
Johnson_wot do you mean by that?03:32
Snake__Hobbsee: what do you need to upload03:32
KnowerrorsJohnson_: "lm-sensors and hddtemp" you have those?03:32
Johnson_yep03:32
Hobbseekmymoney203:32
Snake__wtf?03:32
Snake__How big is it?03:32
Snake__I could host it, but the download speed will only be 30kbps03:33
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KnowerrorsJohnson_: can you get that info from another non superkaramba linux program? Maybe your hardware isn't supported03:33
Knowerrorslike try Ksensors, see if that works03:33
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Johnson_mabey im on my laptop03:34
HobbseeSnake__: should be fine03:35
Snake__Alright do you have aim, or MSN or yahoo or anything>03:35
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KnowerrorsMy favorite new SuperKaramba theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3254103:35
mpmaI'm researching how to increase the font size in various gtk apps, (like the gaim window I'm currently logged into #kubuntu through) and when I goto settings > appearance & themes > GTK fonts and themes, it starts to load but ends up stalling and nothing comes up... what's wrong??03:35
dewdudecan someone toss me that link about ubuntu and nfs03:35
dewdudentfs03:35
Knowerrorsmpma, I used to have that problem too03:35
Johnson_what do you mean can i get that info off another non superkamabala computer03:35
dewdudethat was posted, a while ago..if anyone was around then03:35
Knowerrorsmpma: I fixed it, the solution is...03:36
mpmaKnowerrors: which problem, fontsize or GTK fonts and themes not loading?03:36
Snake__Hobbsee: Do you have MSN or Yahoo or AIM, or other program you can send me the file, or do I need to set up FTP access?03:36
Knowerrorsmpma: the gtk font/them thing not loading03:36
HobbseeSnake__: let me see if it uploads properly here - and i have yahoo, msn, jabber, and icq03:37
tvonAny suggestions on a wireless monitor?03:37
mpmaah great what did you end up doing? :-)03:37
Knowerrorsmpma: don't launch systemsettings from the system menu, instead do K>Run Command>Kcontrol03:37
Knowerrorskcontrol03:37
Snake__Hobbsee: okay well just tell me if you have to send the file to me, then you can send it to me through yahoo03:37
Johnson_how do find if my hardware is supported?03:37
HobbseeSnake__: ok03:38
KnowerrorsJohnson_: like I said, see if ksensors works (install it and enable the hd and cpu temp sensors)03:38
Johnson_how do i enable?03:39
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Snake__Hey guys, do you like my website intro03:40
Snake__http://ctc.vipsystems.us/intro.htm03:40
Snake__??03:40
kinfowhat?03:40
KnowerrorsJohnson_: did you install it already?03:40
Johnson_yeh03:40
KnowerrorsJohnson_: run it, either K>utilities>ksensors, or K>run>ksensors03:41
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Johnson_it said it couldnt run it?03:43
emptystapleris there some way i can remove the lock option from the K menu?03:43
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emptystaplersince if i accidentally click it i can't get back in03:43
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Johnson_knowerrors: i open ksensors up and nothing happend03:47
Johnson_it flashed a screen quickly and that was it03:47
KnowerrorsJohnson_: did anything pop up on you system tray?03:47
Johnson_yeh03:47
Johnson_like a hd03:48
Johnson_shall i restart the theme03:49
Knowerrorsshut down superkaramba first03:49
Knowerrorsksensors is not a karamba app03:49
Knowerrorsit should show a little black box with a thermometer next to it, in you system tray03:50
Johnson_i see no black box03:50
Johnson_i got the black bomb for karbala and the ksensors icon03:50
Johnson_shall i shut them all down or just karabala03:51
Johnson_karamba03:51
Knowerrorsjust karamba03:51
Knowerrorsthen click on the ksensors icon and do configure03:51
Knowerrorsright click03:52
Johnson_yep goto config03:52
Johnson_then what?03:52
robotgeekwhy does the daily dapper kubuntu live cd have a md5sum ?03:52
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robotgeeknot have a md5sum, err03:53
Knowerrorsgo to mainboard sensors and see whats available Johnson_03:54
Johnson_what do you mean mainbord sensors?03:54
Johnson_system infomation?03:55
Knowerrorsno, Mainboard Sensors, right above system information03:56
emptystaplergod, the new Gaim is a train wreck03:56
emptystapleras far as interfaces are concerned03:56
Johnson_all i gto is system infomation and global settings03:56
Knowerrorsif you don't have that, then either your missing the sensors package, or your hardware isn't supported by ubuntus kernel03:56
Johnson_god fucking dammit all i want is this theme to work03:57
robotgeekhmm, i liked the interface03:57
robotgeekJohnson_: language :)03:57
emptystaplerthose godawful status buttons take up like 15% of the window03:57
Johnson_i dont want ot be compiling kernals and stuff it sounds complex03:57
robotgeekemptystapler: you can drag them down03:57
Johnson_lol im sorry for my bad french03:58
KnowerrorsJohnson_: do you have lm-sensors and sensord packages?03:58
emptystaplerrobotgeek: idle times require the window to be like twice as wide as necessary03:58
Johnson_yeh i think let me check03:58
robotgeekemptystapler: hmm, i compiled my own only today. havent messed with it much. i liked what i saw in 5 minutes :)03:59
emptystaplerit's better than using it in windows, at least03:59
emptystaplergtk in windows is some sort of terrible joke03:59
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Johnson_dammit ok god i didnt relise i had to get the sensord package but i got that now04:01
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emptystaplerwhat's a good gmail notification thing to use?04:01
emptystapleri am eyeballing gmail-notify04:01
Johnson_knowerrors: what do i do now i downloaded it installed it and shut down ksensor04:02
Knowerrorstry ksensor again, see if that worked04:03
Johnson_nope i only got them 2 options still04:04
Hobbseeemptystapler: what client are you using?  or are you just using gmail.com to read your mail?04:05
emptystaplerI just log in through FIrefox04:05
emptystaplerbut don't wish to use the firefox extension04:06
Hobbseeah ok04:06
emptystaplerkcheckgmail?04:06
Johnson_bshall i restart my box?04:07
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Johnson_SHALL I JUST INSTALL ALL THE MONITORING PACKAGES I CAN FIND ON SYNAPTIC04:13
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KnowerrorsJohnson_: couldn't hurt ;)  I already told you all the ones I have to make it work04:15
Johnson_ok04:15
Knowerrorssearch for temperature04:15
Johnson_ok04:17
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Johnson_god dammit still isnt working04:27
Johnson_the red bit dont seam to appear04:27
jahshuai just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing04:27
_peterhello04:27
Johnson_hii04:28
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sampanjahshua  riece is an emacs add-on ... in order to "run" it i think you need to be running emacs first and then follow the directions here: http://www.nongnu.org/riece/riece-en/Getting-started.html#Getting-started ... it does not seem to be a stand-alone program (i.e., executable)04:35
sampankubuntu already comes with x-chat, konversation, and irssi for IRC -- do you specifically need IRC within emacs?  (if not, i would imagine that it'll be easier to just use the IRC apps already available to you)04:37
tvonirssi is a nice console irc client.. if you're looking around for one04:41
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kkathmansampan: how are you :) good to see you :)04:41
sampankkathman  hey!  i'm doing well.  how's you?04:41
kkathmanit should be noted, however, that irssi is a konsole only client I believe04:41
kkathmanand there are several available for KDE :)04:41
kkathmansampan: im okie dokie :)04:42
tvonyes, irssi is console only04:42
kkathmanright04:43
sampanyeah irssi is text-only -- it will run in any console (xterm, aterm, etc.) -- i've gotten to like the non-gui of it i guess (irc is a textual medium -- mouse movements just seem to take more time by requiring me to take hands off the keyboard)04:43
kkathmanthere is a wide variety of IRC clients in KDE, some basic, others very elaborate and ingenious04:43
sampanbut, on the down-side, it did take me two whole days to configure the look of it in the theme files to where i could bear to read it :/04:43
tvonpersonal irssi themeing is only for the brave (read: really really bored college geeks)04:44
tvon:-D04:44
sampanlol04:44
sampani downloaded a theme from the irssi site and then tweaked it to my liking04:44
kkathmanI like really being able to see and monitor multiple channels at once, without tabbing04:44
sampanso i only count as "sorta brave"04:44
tvonthough if you find you enjoy it you should look into slrn and mutt04:45
tvonsampan: thats the way to do it04:45
sampankkathman  yeah -- i had to adjust from that ability (from mirc) -- missed being able to watch multiple chans at once for a while too04:45
kkathmansampan thats why I switched to kvirc04:45
sampantvon, i could really enjoy text-only apps -- mutt appeals to me, but alas, i do all my email via browser now anyway -- nothing stays resident on my machine anymore04:46
robotgeeksampan: no pop?04:47
sampankkathman  i looked at kvirc -- seems like it's very nice ... and maturing into a top-notch app.04:47
kkathmansampan: I got the most recent version and compiled it..the one in the repos is WAY old04:47
kkathmansampan: very nice interface, full scripting, transparency, multiple channels open at once etc04:48
sampanrobotgeek  nope -- i've gone through so many reformats and stuff over the last year and a half (both win and linux) so i got tired of saving and reimporting all the crap -- so i just leave it on my isp's web-access and gmail and don't bother d/ling them anymore04:48
pussfellerkonversation is pretty good for being as new as it is04:48
sampankkathman  braver than i would be!  all my adventures in compiling (two only) have been disastrous -- even with help :X04:49
robotgeeksampan: hmm, use mutt/fetchmail/postfix. it's just a few config files to take care of04:49
kkathmanyah I used konversation before I switched to KVirc :)04:49
pussfelleri never like kvirc04:49
pussfellermaybe its gotten better04:49
kkathmansampan: I just used the CVS source and it was perfect...I've had absolutely no problems with it04:49
sampanrobotgeek  heh ... just a few!  you do not realize my innate potential for messing up even the simplest things!04:49
pussfelleri would use irssi if i could remember all the stupid keystrokes04:50
tvonmutt is wicked configurable04:50
robotgeekpussfeller: what keystrokes, i only use /nick04:50
sampankkathman  and insanekane said he had "no problems" with compiling scim/skim -- and yet, it failed with numerous errors about 20 times for me (same exact commands he used)04:50
kkathmanI take that back, in transparency mode it has a little glitch that if you change your wallpaper on another virtual desktop it uses it no matter what desktop KVirc is running it04:50
pussfelleryou got ones to resize the windows, move the windows, answer queries, accept dccs04:50
kkathmanbut thats really minor04:50
robotgeekpussfeller: hmm, i don't bother with all that, i guess :)04:51
tvonconsole apps are for people with too much time on their hands... or with fringe use cases04:51
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sampanlol04:51
robotgeektvon: hmm...04:51
tvonthough its arguable that once you get mutt/irssi the way you want them you will never have to touch the config again04:52
pussfellerya never know when text clients will come in handy04:53
sampani.e., if X blows up04:53
sampan:X04:53
tvonthey're handy to know about and know how to use, no doubt04:53
pussfelleryep04:53
tvonI've had to ssh into my server to run mutt on more than one occasion04:53
Hobbseepussfeller: they can be very handy lol - especially when you run development releases04:55
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robotgeeki hope i wont have to use it now, i want gui goodness!04:58
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LandisWhat channel should I enter to find out how to install a new application?05:02
tvonwhat application?05:02
LandisFirefox05:02
tvonGive more detail :) This is probably the right place.05:02
tvonare you running kubuntu?05:02
LandisThanks.  Yes - 5.1005:02
LandisI just downloaded the .gz of Firefox, but I don't know where to extract it to.05:02
tvonah, you want the latest and greatest firefox with your 5.10 system?05:03
LandisYup.  ;-)05:03
tvonwell, it's been a while since I did that, but I think you ahve two options05:03
tvon1) There might be backports forit.. I have never messed with backports05:04
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tvon2) You should be able to just unpack the tarball somewhre, say in /usr/local/share/firefox05:04
tvonthen in your 'preferred applications' dialog (wherever that is in KDE, I'm kinda new to KDE and only really know gnome) you can enter the full path to the firefox executable that you unpacked05:05
LandisIt says that I don't have permission to access /usr/local/share.  Do I need to be logged in as root for this?05:05
tvonyes05:05
LandisAhhh.  I see.05:05
LandisWell, thank you for your help.  I'll probably be back in here sooner or later with more questions.05:06
tvonbut05:06
Landisbut?05:06
tvonyou can just as easily unpack the tarball in your $HOME directory, there is no real reason to put it under /usr/local05:06
tvonunelss you have multiple users on the system (but most people don't)05:06
LandisI hadn't thought of that.05:06
LandisSo far I don't, but eventually my wife will need an account.05:06
tvonI install custom apps into $HOME/local/ a lot05:07
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tvonif you want her to have access to it you should put it in /usr/local05:07
Hobbseetvon: did you want 1.5 or 1.0.7?05:07
Hobbseewiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:07
LandisOkay.  I'll do that then.05:07
tvonHobbsee: Wrong person, it's Landis asking :)05:07
Hobbseeoops...too many chats...05:08
Hobbseetrue05:08
LandisHobbsee: version 1.505:08
HobbseeLandis: see the wiki page then05:08
LandisWill do.05:08
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Hobbseetvon: there's a whole lot of extra info05:10
Hobbseeand you're not really supposed to recommend 1.5 anyway05:10
tvonHobbsee: I didn't/wouldn't, that was the question asked05:11
Hobbseetrue05:11
LandisIs there a problem with 1.5 that I didn't notice before?  It seems okay on my Windows boxes...05:13
tvonI don't suppose anyone has any tips on migrating from Evolution (with local mail storage) to KMail?05:13
tvonMy only thought is to setup IMAP in evo and move all the mail back to the server so I can re-fetch it with kmail... not exactly an elegant solution thogh05:14
tvoner, 'though'05:14
KnowerrorsFF 1.5 works fine for me after following the wiki05:14
Knowerrorsif you use certain Gnome progs that depend on 1.07, you could cause problems though05:15
LandisOh.  I really don't know - I just installed Kubuntu tonight.05:16
tvonheh05:17
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calliehas anyone noticed how awful p2p is under linux?05:20
callieor is it just me05:20
callie?05:20
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Phantom^^Does anyone here have any experience with cedega and css05:21
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HobbseePhantom^^: try in #cedega05:41
callieHobbsee: do you use any file sharing software?05:42
Hobbseecallie: no, sorry05:42
calliedarn05:42
Hobbseeask in #ubuntu if no one answers here05:42
seth_k|lappyI use Azureus05:43
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calliedid you notice that other clients where remarkably slower seth_k|lappy ?05:43
seth_k|lappyI've only ever used Azureus, so I haven't tried other clients05:44
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calliei'll give it a shot seth_k|lappy05:47
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kakeihey guys help me i deleted chroot with sudo rm -r /chroot and my system now wont work fine05:48
callieyou deleted the binary?05:51
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calliewhy would anyone delete chroot?05:56
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MrMazdabrand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?06:07
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dewdudehas anyone in here had any expierence with getting an audigy 2 to work?06:11
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seth_k|lappydewdude, mine works06:17
dewdudehelp me out06:17
dewdudemine isn't06:17
dewdudei can't get sound out of it06:17
seth_k|lappyright, one sec06:17
dewdudeexcept harsh digital on the digital jack06:17
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seth_k|lappyI know just the setting to tweak06:17
dewdudeok06:17
seth_k|lappyokay dewdude, open a terminal06:21
pussfellerdoes azherues do DHT06:21
pussfellerlike bitcommet06:21
seth_k|lappytype alsamixer06:21
seth_k|lappypussfeller, yeah it does06:21
dewdudeyeah06:22
seth_k|lappydewdude, then go to the setting called Audigy Analog/Digital Out and press M06:22
pussfellerim behind a router I cant control and bitcomet seems to work the best06:22
seth_k|lappydewdude, then exit the mixer, and type sudo alsactl store06:22
pussfellertho i bet I could control it...06:22
dewdudealrighyt06:23
seth_k|lappydewdude, should be okay now06:23
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seth_k|lappynight robotgeek_away :)06:23
robotgeek_awayseth_k|lappy: later06:23
dewdudeexxxxcellent06:24
dewdudei thought i had hit that before06:24
dewdudeheh06:24
seth_k|lappyhehe06:24
dewdudenow06:24
dewdudei need to figure out a way to resample all my content06:25
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dewdudebleh...now something's spiking CPU06:28
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Snake__Hobbsee: Did you need me to host that or you got it covered?06:31
Snake__(I assume you got it)06:31
HobbseeSnake__: i think i got it covered :)06:31
Snake__Alrighty06:31
Snake__I forgot all about it06:31
Snake__lol06:31
sahooehi there I have a little problem06:33
sahooeit's a newbie problem, I think06:33
dewdudeack06:33
dewdudeseth_k|lappy: any suggestions on how to not make PCM clip?06:33
sahooeIm trying to install a couple of emulators, I alrady installed the SNES emulator06:34
dewdudecuz..this sounds like crap06:34
sahooebut now I'm trying to install dega, a SEGA emulator, so I downloaded it from some page06:34
sahooedega .tar.gz, so I extracted the file, but now I don't know what to do06:35
Snake__sahooe: Did you complie it?06:35
seth_k|lappydewdude, ermm... I don't even know what you're talking about actually :P, so no I don't06:35
dewdudeoh06:35
seth_k|lappysahooe, is it in the repos?06:35
Snake__seth_k|lappy: no its not06:35
dewdudeit sounds like crap06:35
Snake__not to my knowledge06:35
dewdudecompared to what it did in XP :(06:35
sahooeit's not in the repos06:35
sahooei have the Makefile file but I don't know how to build the app06:35
Snake__sahooe: you need to complie, I would help you, but im a n00b to compliing myself06:36
naliothubotu: tell sahooe about source06:36
dewdudeheh06:36
dewdude./configure06:36
dewdudemake06:36
dewdudemake install06:36
dewdudemake clean06:36
naliothsahooe: install "checkinstall" and use it instaed of "make install"06:36
seth_k|lappysahooe, first install the package "build-essential" and "checkinstall"06:36
Snake__./configure && make && make install I think06:36
naliothdewdude: checkinstall is recommended instead of "make install"06:36
seth_k|lappysahooe, then what nalioth said, NOT what Snake__ said06:36
dewdudeis it?06:36
naliothSnake__: see above, please06:36
dewdudenalioth: LTNS06:36
naliothdewdude: howdy, i'm always here06:36
dewdudehaha06:36
sahooeok man, it's easy but sometimes I don't know what to do with this Linux Box xD06:36
Snake__checkinstall is better than make install??06:37
dewdudeyeah..but i've not been around06:37
naliothubotu: tell sahooe about compile06:37
seth_k|lappySnake__, um yeah06:37
naliothubotu: tell Snake__ about checkinstall06:37
Snake__Hmm never used it06:37
seth_k|lappyit doesn't leave nasty unresolved files all over after a make install... it keeps track of everything and makes a faux-.deb out of them :) so you can uninstall easily06:38
sahooeSnake: the ./configure command tell me "command not found"06:38
Snake__Did you get the build-essential and check install repos?06:38
naliothsahooe: in most all tar.gz there exists a "README" or "INSTALL" read them06:38
seth_k|lappysahooe, you must install "build-essential" and "checkinstall" first06:38
naliothseth_k|lappy: some source pkgs have no configure script06:39
sahooeok then06:39
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seth_k|lappynalioth, I didn't tell him to ./configure :P06:39
Snake__I personally believe that every piece of software should be submitted to the repos06:40
saikimhello06:40
saikimanyone here?06:40
seth_k|lappyI think that if you care enough to build it, you should debianize it06:40
saikimtesting......06:40
sahooeI'm installing those now06:40
saikimgo afternoon06:40
saikimi am newbie here06:40
saikimjust install kubuntu this few day.06:40
saikimcould i ask some question?06:41
seth_k|lappyjust ask, don't ask to ask :P06:41
saikimmay i?06:41
naliothseth_k|lappy: doesn't matter if you have every -dev lib and build tool ubuntu has, if there's no configure script, ./configure won't work06:41
sahooeok now I enter ./configure and tells: "No file or directory"06:41
naliothsaikim: just ask06:41
naliothsahooe: are you in the proper directory?06:41
saikimthanks.06:42
sahooeyes, but there's only a Makefile file06:42
naliothubotu: tell sahooe about cli06:42
saikimi just install scim. i can't use scim at all windows.06:42
naliothsahooe: did you read the README or INSTALL ?06:42
saikimfor example i can onli type at firefox and OO but cant type at the kopete nor system.06:43
sahooeyes, the README file has not installation notes06:43
saikimi had set my font06:43
seth_k|lappysaikim, minghua JUST fixed that bug today :)06:43
naliothsahooe: that was all there was ?, if so, try "make" at the prompt06:43
jahshuaummm i need help06:43
jahshuaim getting this warning06:43
jahshuaPlease insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter06:43
jahshuafrom adept06:43
seth_k|lappysaikim, check back tomorrow in #ubuntu-motu in about 12 hours, and ask for minghua06:43
seth_k|lappyjahshua, if you don't want the CD anymore, go to Manage Repositories in Adept06:44
seth_k|lappyjahshua, and uncheck the CD-ROM list item06:44
naliothjahshua: hit alt-f2 and type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then put a # in front of the line that says deb cdrom in it06:44
naliothor what seth_k|lappy said06:44
seth_k|lappynalioth, Adept has a GUI sources.list configurator iirc, may as well use it06:44
saikimu means it is scim bug?06:44
sahooenalioth: I entered "make", but there's an error06:44
naliothsahooe: paste it please in a pastebin06:45
nalioth!paste06:45
ubotuI heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:45
sahooenalioth: don't you know if there's a .deb from repos? I found zsnes but not a SEGA emulator06:45
sahooethe error is: make: *** [sdl/main.o]  Error 106:45
naliothsahooe: visit packages.ubuntu.com06:46
sahooeI think it needs SDL, but It's already installed I think06:46
naliothsahooe: at the webpage you got that package from, was there not any install instructions?06:46
naliothsahooe: you need libsdl*-dev06:46
Snake__Guys what are you favorite games that arn't very demanding06:47
Snake__Like kdegames06:47
Snake__type games06:47
fdelacruzgtg guys06:47
jahshuathat didnt work06:47
jahshuathe error box wont go away06:47
saikim?06:47
jahshuawhen i click it06:47
naliothjahshua: close your adept06:47
jahshuai cant06:47
sahooenalioth: ok, I'll install it. There's a sdl1.2-dev06:48
Snake__run  ->> xkill06:48
Snake__then select adept06:48
Snake__(click on the window for adept06:48
naliothjahshua: click alt-f2 > xkill and touch the adept window06:48
Hobbseetalk about zap!06:49
Snake__wtf Hobbsee ?06:49
Hobbseetouching the window with xkill, and it goes - aka zap!06:50
Snake__ah ok06:50
Snake__im like...does she do that often..come out of no where with meaningless comments :)06:51
seth_k|lappysaikim, yes, it is a scim bug06:51
saikim<seth_k|lappy> oic thanks, so when will it fixed?06:52
seth_k|lappysaikim, talk to user "minghua" tomorrow, in #ubuntu-motu06:52
seth_k|lappyask him06:52
saikim<seth_k|happy> ok thanks.06:53
seth_k|lappynp06:53
kkathmanHey there seth_k|lappy :)06:54
seth_k|lappyheya kkathman, I got a local apt repo set up and it works! I didn't think I'd actually get it working :P06:54
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naliothseth_k|lappy: congratulations06:54
Snake__Whoever invented frozen bubble is an asshole...06:55
seth_k|lappyb/c it sucks your time away?06:55
Snake__They made a highly addictive game, and no pause button :)06:55
seth_k|lappySnake__, language please06:55
Snake__...sorry06:56
seth_k|lappyisn't ESC pause?06:56
Snake__No06:56
Snake__its quit06:56
Snake__lol06:56
seth_k|lappyhum06:56
Snake__Whoever invented frozen bubble is an icehole...06:56
Snake__better?06:56
Snake__Can I say that?06:56
seth_k|lappy:P06:56
Snake__A fargin sneaky bastage!06:56
Snake__:)06:56
Hobbseehehe06:57
Hobbseeno pause button?06:57
Hobbseenot even p?06:57
Snake__Not that I can find06:57
Hobbseeweird...06:59
Hobbseei thought there was a button on there...06:59
Snake__Go dl. tell me if I missed it06:59
dewdudeXMMS doesn't like directory names with [ or ]  in it07:00
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Hobbseeit does pause!07:00
Snake__how..07:00
Hobbseestill trying to figure out how to though07:00
_colinhow do i apt-get install packages that are universe07:00
dewdudeadd it as a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list07:01
Snake__ubotu: tell _colin about repos07:01
dewdudeyou should just have to uncomment it07:01
_colinthanks ill give that a try07:01
Snake__so uh Hobbsee any luck?07:02
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Hobbseethere's definetly a pause button there...07:03
Hobbseetried spacebar?07:04
Snake__yulp07:04
burepeHow do i know a pci slot number?07:04
HobbseeSnake__: have you checked the help file?07:04
Snake__Nope07:04
Snake__I wasn't that worried about it, it just kinda surpised me07:04
Snake__Nothing in the help file07:05
Hobbseehmmm07:05
Hobbseeor tab, maybe...07:05
Snake__didnt try that one07:05
Hobbseethere's definetly a pause button07:05
Snake__not tab07:05
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Snake__I FOUDN IT!!07:06
Snake__ZOMG!!07:06
Snake__Hobbsee: its Pause/break07:06
Hobbseehehe, well there you go07:07
Hobbseetold you there was one!07:07
Snake__Sorry forgot I wasn't on windows, things are a bit more obvious in linux land07:07
Snake__:)07:07
Hobbseehehe07:08
burepeI loaded a driver with this command sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5. I think the 3 and 5 are wrong. If I want to change them do I have to unload the driver and then do the command again with different numbers or can I just do the command again with different numbers?07:10
Snake__anyone know any games that are as addicting and as little resource using as frozen bubble??07:12
Snake__I need more games to play 0.007:12
_colincan anyone send me a copy of their sources.list file?07:12
Snake__!sources07:12
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:12
Snake__the one for breezy is default07:12
Snake___colin:07:13
burepe!sources07:13
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:13
burepeoops07:13
burepe_colin, the second link. it is really easy07:14
Snake___colin: are you trying to open your multiverse and universe?07:14
_colinuniverse07:14
Snake__Hang on ill give you a copy of mine07:14
_colini editted it & somehow it corrupted it haha07:14
Snake__Just cuz I feel nice today07:14
_colinlol, thanks07:14
_colinwhat's the easiest way to edit text files with all the sudo stuff?07:15
kkathmanalt-F2, kdesu kate07:16
burepesudo nano /file07:16
kkathmaneither one...the kate if you are in KDE...nano at the CLI07:16
Snake__arghhh07:16
_colinok cool.07:17
Snake__Hold on _colin im gettin the file07:17
Snake__VI was being dumb with me07:17
Snake___colin: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47134507:18
Snake__there ya go07:18
Snake__WAIT07:18
Snake___colin: you there?07:18
_colinthanks.  im trying to install fluxbox and it's being a pain07:18
_colinyeah07:18
Snake__Dont put that in yet07:18
Snake__hold on07:18
Snake__refresh it, there should be no KDE35 at the bottom07:19
Snake__there should only be 36 lines07:19
Snake__if thats all there is, your good to go07:19
nalioth_colin: use kdesu to open gui things with superuser powers and sudo to run thing that are console only07:19
burepewhat is the floppy mount point07:20
nalioth_colin: using sudo to open gui things can corrupt your permissions and make your life interesting07:20
Snake__lol07:20
_colinlol07:21
_colinim still confused.  so fluxbox is listed under packages as universe, but when i apt-get install fluxbox it says cant find package07:21
Snake__Did you sudo apt-get update?07:22
_colinnope, what does that update?07:22
Snake__Your package lists07:22
_colinahh i see.07:22
kkathmannalioth: thanks for mentioning that... I said that in here the other night and everyone thought I was crazy07:22
Snake__You should always sudo apt-get update before you search or install a package07:22
Snake__Then you get the latest ones always07:23
naliothkkathman: you ARE crazy, just not about kde07:23
kkathmantrue07:23
_colinok cool, thanks Snake07:23
Snake__yepper...07:23
kkathmanalthough thats not completely true...I AM crazy about KDE07:24
Snake__what is fluxbox anyway.07:24
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naliothSnake__: another windowing environment (lightweight)07:24
kkathmanSnake__: it was used in Back to the Future I believe :)07:24
Snake__kkathman: nice :)07:25
Snake__the flux capcitator07:25
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kkathmanthey put it in a box I thought :)07:25
Snake__nalioth: if I installed it, would it overwrite KDE?07:25
Snake__Or what?07:25
naliothSnake__: nope, it'd just give you another option at your login07:26
Snake__I see...07:26
naliothSnake__: have you seen xubuntu?07:26
Snake__aw well nothing I want to deal with07:26
Snake__lol07:26
Snake__Naw07:26
nalioth!xubuntu07:26
ubotuxubuntu is probably Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu07:26
kkathmanxubuntu - nice lightweight07:26
Snake__I know about xfce, I debated putting it on this system07:27
kkathmanfast too07:27
sampanfluxbox is nice -- i like the docking windows ... very handy07:27
kkathmannever really experimented with fluxbox on my system here07:28
Snake__hey guys, see all the monitering in the corner of this pic07:28
Snake__http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?themes/contrib/reaper-man_reaper.jpg07:28
Snake__can I get that with KDE??07:28
naliothSnake__: you can use conky or gkrellm07:28
Snake__Which is better?07:29
naliothSnake__: if you use conky, i recommend the latest one from conky.sf.net07:29
kkathmannalioth: did you see they have a beta out for Gaim 2.0.0 ?07:29
naliothuse them both, and keep using the one you like07:29
naliothkkathman: i've already d/l and compiled it07:29
kkathmanjust read the initial feedback on it :)07:30
Snake__nalioth: can I get conky from the reps??07:30
Snake__repos(07:30
naliothSnake__: an older nastier version, yes.07:30
Snake__hmm I havn't learned how to doe .deb installs yet07:31
naliothSnake__: ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall07:31
Hobbseekkathman: what's the feedback say?  i'm curious now07:31
Snake__I knew that much07:32
Snake__lol07:32
Snake__oh its a tgz...i thought it would be a deb07:32
manverunalioth: checkinstall really does make :)07:39
naliothmanveru: i'm stuck in my old old habits07:40
Snake__Hry guys I got a problem..07:40
Hobbseewhat's conky?07:40
Hobbseeout of curiousity07:40
Hobbsee!info conky07:40
ubotuconky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB07:40
Snake__Hobbsee: hardware moniter07:40
Hobbseeah ok07:41
Snake__nalioth: I got a error on complie..07:41
Snake__checking for XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext... no07:41
Snake__configure: error: something went wrong when checking for Xdbe (double buffer extension)07:41
Snake__whats up with that?07:41
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naliothSnake__: try auto-apt. it's mentioned on the !checkinstall page07:41
Snake__ok07:42
Snake__!checkinstall07:42
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall07:42
naliothubotu: tell Snake__ about msg the bot07:43
Chousukecheckinstall is a bit of a hack though.07:43
Snake__Nuthin ever good enough for you people07:43
Snake__lol07:43
ChousukeBut it's preferable to installing with only make install, I guess. :P07:44
Snake__ew that is the sickest loading bar I ever seen07:44
Snake__or maybe I just have a dirty mind07:44
Snake__its ===========> then it grows the more I download lol07:45
Chousukedoes the new gaim have MSN webcam support yet?07:45
naliothChousuke: yes, it's marginally better than 'make install' but not as good as dh_make and family07:45
ChousukeDebianising sources is somewhat a boring task though.07:46
ChousukeIf gaim has webcam support I could finally silence my stepsister.07:47
seth_k|lappyChousuke, the first 2.0 beta doesn't really, I don't believe. Kopete 0.11 does though.07:47
ChousukeShe always complains about gaim being inferior to MSN Messenger because it lacks some obscure feature.07:47
ChousukeThough if I get her webcam support she'll complain about the lack of buddy smilies or whatever.07:48
Chousukeor games.07:48
ChousukeBut I'm not allowing her to use windows anyway.07:48
ChousukeI'd have to clean it of spyware and viruses everytime I visit home.07:49
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ChousukeNow my family's using Ubuntu, and apparently it's working just fine since they haven't called me about it in weeks :P07:50
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burepewhat is the xfce desktop package name. There are so many for xfce but i dont know which is just the desktop08:04
Hobbseexubuntu-desktop08:05
kkathmanxubuntu-desktop08:08
burepetanks yall08:08
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ccfielhello. im switching to kde from gnome ubuntu. where can i find the add/remove programs like in ubuntu?08:28
Hobbseeccfiel: use adept package manager08:28
naliothccfiel: use adept or synaptic08:29
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ccfielok thanks let me try :)08:30
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ccfielHobbesee: i have tried it. but i what the one like in ubuntu add programs08:36
ccfielwhich has been categorizd08:36
ccfielcan i run it in kubuntu.?08:36
naliothccfiel: sure you can08:37
burepethat is synaptic08:37
ccfielburepe: not synaptic08:37
burepein ubuntu?08:37
ccfielyes in ubuntu08:37
naliothrobotgeek: whats the command for add/remove programs from the terminal08:38
DeepBlueGhostapt-get08:38
robotgeeknalioth: heh08:39
naliothno, there is a console command that brings up the add/remove thing08:39
ccfielnot apt-get.08:39
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naliothrobotgeek: we were talking about it in #easyubuntu yesterday08:39
robotgeeknalioth: the gnome-app-install thing?08:39
ccfielyes08:39
ccfielthats the one!08:40
naliothccfiel: gnome-app-install08:40
ccfielnalioth: i have tried it but command not found. is it not default installed in kubuntu?08:41
naliothccfiel: no, it's an ubuntu thing08:42
demon71Anyone know what this means, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"08:42
sampan!xincludes08:42
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev08:42
sampandemon71  ^^^^08:42
naliothccfiel: apt-get install gnome-app-install08:42
Chousukeis Easyubuntu any good?08:42
demon71gotcha08:42
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naliothChousuke: do you know how to install a local deb?08:42
ChousukeYes.08:43
naliothChousuke: and you can adjust your resolution by yourself?08:43
ChousukeYes.08:43
naliothChousuke: then easybreezy is way beneath you08:44
ChousukeI was just wondering if it's good for newbies who can't.08:44
ChousukeThere was some tool which was broken and used too much --force, right? Which one was that?08:44
naliothChousuke: automatix08:45
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ChousukeOk.08:46
demon71now i get, " checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"08:47
Hobbseedemon71: sudo apt-get install kde-devel08:48
naliothdemon71: all those msgs are asking for *-dev libs08:48
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demon71thanks.. im obviously new to this.. I appreciate the help...08:49
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_newbieSome files i have on a cd don't work properly 'cause the swedish letters in the name aren't shown correctly in Kubuntu, anyone know what to do?08:59
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cynewho knows a good kubuntu client for receiving podcasts?09:02
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nrdbI need some help in getting KDE to print to a fax, I have installed efax and it is working.09:05
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_newbie!charset09:14
ubotu_newbie: Syntax error in line 109:14
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demon71Help with ejecting CD, " Eject /dev/hdc failed!"09:45
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Chameleon22i just purchased an AGP slot vidoe card and also have one inbuilt into the mobo, can someone point me in the right direction in regards to making a dual head system? already have everything connected, just need to configure now.10:04
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thefishanyone know of the right place to start ssh-agent, to have it work for all terminals opened?10:06
Chameleon22thefish, you mean how to start an ssh daemon?10:06
thefishChameleon22: no, how to start ssh-agent as the parent of kde10:07
Chameleon22sorry, not following10:07
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thefishChameleon22: ssh-agent is very cool, it caches your ssh private key, so you only have to put in the passphrase once10:08
thefishthen you can log in to whatever other host is configd with your public key, without having to type in your passphrase again10:09
Chameleon22thefish, uhhh ok get ya. i generally just exchange the keys10:09
thefishbut....10:09
thefishnothing to be ashamed of Chameleon2210:09
thefishssh-agent needs to be running as the parent for it to work nicely10:09
Chameleon22not ashamed at all, dont need to type password in at all10:09
Chameleon22:p10:09
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thefishand how do you manage that Chameleon22 ?10:10
thefishplease dont say you have a blank passphrase10:10
Chameleon22no10:10
bkwAre there any way of making KDE closing all windows and not saving anything when I reboot?10:10
Chameleon22ah bah yeah10:10
Chameleon22:(10:10
Chameleon22hehehe10:10
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Chameleon22all at home, so its ok10:11
thefishk10:12
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bkwArgh I cannot resize my windows that become to big so I cannot see the buttons when the cover the panel and buttons are bellow10:16
bkwIs it possible to deny all windows covering panel and bellow10:17
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bkwIt is windows in 'system settings' that are huge and cover my panel. I cannot resize those windows10:20
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_userhello10:26
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_useri'm a linux newbie and can anybody plz tell me how to share files over the LAN (kubuntu - xubuntu)?10:27
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thefish_user: apt-get install ssh-server on the xubuntu box, then log in with konqueror like this:fish://123.123.123.123 (where 123.123.123.123 is the ip address of the xubuntu boks)10:29
_useroh thx10:30
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bkwI'm upgrading kde to 3.5, I hope it will solve the window-hight bug10:35
bkwheight even10:35
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robin_2!firefox10:51
ubotufirefox is, like, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.10:51
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robin_2why isn't firefox updated to 1.5 ?10:52
nalioth!firefox1510:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org10:52
naliothrobin_2: because it didnt make it in to breezy before the program freeze10:53
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DJ_Mer_oaky someone please help me before i go nuts10:53
StarScreamwho do we make requests to for kde 3.5 PPC packages10:53
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DJ_Mer_how do i make firefox my default browser in kubuntu?10:53
StarScreamkde-components-> web-browser10:54
StarScreamadd firefox10:54
StarScreamintsead of konq10:54
DJ_Mer_odd that doesn't even seem to be there10:54
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burepehow can i list how much of my partitions are used?10:57
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sahin_wFrom a terminal use >> df or df -k or df -h10:59
burepethanks11:00
sahin_wnp11:00
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DJ_Mer_okay, enxt question... how do I had stuff to the Kmenu?11:02
Kibouwhat..11:03
MrMazdaright click the starter11:03
sahin_wYes, and chose the "Menu Editor"11:04
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MrMazdabrand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?11:05
Chameleon22can someone help me to install a dual head system. New card I just poped in is nvidia geforce fx5200 (agp) and old one is SiS onboard (pci) ... dont even know where to start , like how do i get the system to detect the geforce card and then how to add thaht to the xorg to get dual system going ?11:07
Kibouwhat does "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" say?11:07
Kamping_KaiserChameleon22: i have heard nvidia+other will be horribly hard, but it might have improved since kim did it11:07
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, kim???11:07
Kamping_Kaisermate of mine, who tried it11:08
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Chameleon22i see ok11:08
MrMazdasame as kinfocenter11:08
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, you in au11:08
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. Adelaide11:09
Kamping_Kaiseryour nsw?11:09
Chameleon22uh k, melb here11:09
Kamping_Kaiserah right11:09
Kiboudid you try to set your dpi in any way?11:09
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sahin_wYou can force the DPI settings if you want. Look the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file.11:09
MrMazdatotally default11:09
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, so you dont know ay11:09
Kibouyou have to set your displaysize in your xorg.conf11:10
sahin_wThere is a line: ServerArgsLocal=something11:10
Kamping_KaiserChameleon22: fraid not11:10
sahin_wI use ServerArgsLocal=-dpi 10011:10
Chameleon22k so does anyone know how to install a second vid card then ? not dual just how to get geforce fx5200 detected by the system11:10
Kibouthe displaysize in xorg.conf is better11:10
MrMazdawhere goes serverargslocal?11:10
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Kibouas it adjusts the dpi for your current resolution11:11
TooSadmay be to assemble a notebook like a workstation desktop? where can i buy the hw?11:11
sahin_wIn the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file.11:11
sahin_wHowever Kibou sad: xorg.conf is the better place.11:11
sahin_wAhaaa. I found the parameters in the manual. You can insert your screen size to the xorg.conf file in the "Section Monitor" if you think...11:15
sahin_wFor my laptop: DisplaySize     280 22011:15
MrMazdawhy doesn't it do that automatically with DDC?11:15
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sahin_wWell it does on my monitor at home. But don't on my laptop. I'm not a hw expert anyway.11:17
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Kibouddc doesn't work for me at all..11:20
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gotekhi all11:47
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DJ_Mer_stupid question... how do i install from a .deb file?11:48
Kamping_Kaiserdpkg -i11:48
Kamping_Kaiser*sudo dpkg -i11:49
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DJ_Mer_i love you11:49
nalioth_zZz!dpkg11:49
nalioth_zZz!deb11:49
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb11:49
goteki m new to kde and i would like 2 know it is possible to  have an applet on desktop showing sys infos11:49
nalioth_zZzgotek: yes, use gkrellm or conky11:49
nalioth_zZzgotek: also superkaramba has something like that, also11:49
goteklike disk space memory usage network link etc ...11:49
gotekall in 111:50
gotek?11:50
nalioth_zZzgotek: gkrellm or conky11:50
goteka bit like gdesklets under gnome  but better if it exists ?11:50
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gotekok nalioth11:50
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gotekmerki11:50
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gotekwhat is  the best ?11:51
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naliothsuperkaramba and gdesklets do the same thing11:51
naliothalso adesklets11:51
MrMazdaanyone know if Kibou should be back?11:51
__newbie__Is there any easy way to install Counter Strike on Linux?11:52
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MrMazdaanyone know why /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc's -dpi 100 parameter is not used?11:52
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Kamping_Kaiserlol. that's should be hobbsee_geek11:57
Hobbsee_packaginmmm....there only needs to be one more character!11:58
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Kamping_Kaiserlol11:58
__newbie__Is there any easy way to install Counter Strike on Linux?11:59
Kamping_Kaiserno11:59
__newbie__Not even with WineX?12:00
StarScream__newbie__: cedega runs it afaik..12:01
Kamping_Kaiserit does, but you have to buy it, and i had a pain in the but getting it going (so i wont be in future)12:01
StarScreamKamping_Kaiser: i purchased it and it runs fine for me12:02
StarScreammind you that is on a slackware system so it might be different on kubuntu12:02
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Kamping_Kaiserhm. ok12:03
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__newbie__maybe i should try it then, i dont think i have to buy it...12:04
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StarScream__newbie__: its worth purchasing ..its only $15 or something afaik12:08
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StarScreamnot overly expensive and it makes life so much easier12:08
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__newbie__I will consider that12:09
StarScreamit is worth checking the website to see if your game is supported though and how well it runs12:10
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new__salut12:13
new__j'ai un petit probleme, j'ai install ubuntu5.10 hier il detecte mon modem tt fonctionne tres bien, j'ai essay aujourdhui d'uiliser kubunut mais le probleme que je ne trouve pas le modem avec kubuntu:12:13
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che_benwayhi. having a bit of trouble with passwords. if i lock a session I am not able to unlock itby entering the password.01:17
che_benwaycan anyone help please?01:18
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cheeksqueers01:39
Hentai^XP?01:39
cheeksidk01:39
cheekswhats up with this chat?01:40
Kaiser_Awaysay something intelligent or a question and sometimes it comes to life ;)01:40
cheekshmmm01:41
cheekswho are you guys?01:41
Kaiser_Awaythis is a channel for people who use/like/are interested in Kubuntu-linux01:42
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cheeksohh yah my whole computer class just went over to kubuntu01:43
Kaiser_Awayrealy? o_001:43
Hentai^XPor just stick in here for no good reason01:43
cheeksyah were ghetto01:43
Hentai^XPok?01:44
cheeksare u guys a bunch of nerds?01:46
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chrisdawson01:49
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chodeWindows is better01:56
GrundleI agree01:56
GrundleYou guys are a bunch of nerds01:56
Grundleexept for chode01:56
Grundlehis name is cool01:56
Kaiser_Away*sigh*01:56
chodegee thanks01:56
chodeanyone else have Kubuntu in school?01:56
Lacertamy kubuntu started crashing again01:56
Hentai^XPwtf01:57
Grundley are you sighing? disapointed that we couldnt be your butt buddies?01:57
chodeMy Kubuntu hasn't crashed yet and it's running on a pentium 2 computer with 16mb ram01:57
Lacertai installed it last night and now when i turned it on it crashed01:58
chodehow can you be talking on here if it's crashed01:58
Lacertait's the PC next to this01:58
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chodeaight01:58
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Kaiser_AwayLacerta: what part crashed?01:59
Kaiser_Awaythanks apokryphos01:59
Lacertawell it doesn't completely crash always02:00
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Lacertasometimes it just draws some really strange stuff where should be windows02:00
Lacertathen if 'm lucky i can still reboot02:00
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Kaiser_Awayhave you got the latest updates?02:01
Lacertano i haven't got the network working yet02:01
Lacertabut it starts doing this after i install some of the stuff i did02:01
Lacertawhere do i get the updates?02:05
Kaiser_Awayu.m try adept. i don't use Kubuntu :|02:06
Lacertacan i get them from this PC and burn to CD?02:06
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_newbie_Can someone give me a tip of a good and free webhost?02:19
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apokryphos_newbie_: there aren't really any :D but the place to look is http://freewebspace.net/02:25
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apokryphospersonally I recommend just paying a few bucks and getting a decent shared hosting account somewhere02:25
dewdudei uhh02:26
dewdudei host mysi have a server02:26
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dewdudeno, i wo't host you02:26
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_newbie_apokryphos: I appreciate your help. Thanks!02:28
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dewdudeXMMS is broken02:39
dewdudeor something02:39
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apokryphosdewdude: how could that possibly be a negative thing? ;-)02:41
dewdudebecause02:43
dewdudenone of my other players work right02:43
dewdudeKaffeine isn't playing MAC02:43
dewdudeeven tho i installed MAC gstreamer02:43
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dewdudewell02:44
dewdudemp3 was fine....for a while02:44
dewdudeit's old02:44
dewdudeit needs to go the way of the dinosaur02:44
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slow-motionhallo02:49
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ToyManmorning all02:51
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Jochenhey guys. I need to install jdk02:55
JochenSomebody has an idea how to do this?02:55
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JochenI need your help02:55
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dreumahi just reinstalled kubuntu and now it wont recognize my external partition02:57
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dreumahi just reinstalled kubuntu and now it wont recognize my external partition03:07
dreumahi just reinstalled kubuntu and now it wont recognize my external hardrive03:07
dreumahnone of my secondary partitions i can see03:07
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maxmanosjdg03:15
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hugelmopfthere is nothing like an iocharset option for mounting reiserfs. does anybody know how to specify the character set to be used for filenames on reiserfs partitions?03:29
hugelmopfmy problem is, that on my reiserfs partition (which was created in debian), special characters appear as question marks. :-(03:30
hugelmopfmaybe this does not have anything to do with the reiserfs mounting though, but with utf-8 chosen as my default characterset, while the files are encoded in iso-8859-1503:31
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hugelmopfah, i found a solution: in case anybody has similar problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UTFEightMigrationTool03:46
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DjDarkmancan someone tell me how to make a fat32 partition writeable to all users?03:50
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mikaelhello?03:55
mikaelwoho i got Kubuntu working :P03:55
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brendan_you can set the umask= option in fstab03:58
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robin_2milksteak: congrats :)04:04
robin_2milksteak: oh sry wrong one.04:05
robin_2nvm me04:05
milksteakhah04:05
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dale_gribblehey everybody04:06
robin_2hi04:06
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dale_gribblei have a question about installing the ATI propriety drivers...I found a guide in the forums, and it said that you have to remove the restricted packages (ndiswrapper, etc)04:06
_nano_is there a way to make kopete links open in firefox? I've set my default browser as firefox in kde components but still no luck :(04:07
dutchhttp://www.test.com04:07
_nano_dale_gribble: which card do you own?04:07
dutchhmm04:07
dale_gribbleits an ati 200M (laptop)04:07
dale_gribblebut i need the ndiswrapper packages, so i wanted to see if it really matters if you remove them pre-install, and if so, can you reinstall the restricted packages after installing the proprietary drivers?04:08
_nano_dale_gribble: aah, i've ati radeon 7500, for which ati guys don't supply drivers, hence I used the defauult drivers given by kubuntu04:08
_nano_dale_gribble: could you post the link to that forum?04:08
dale_gribbleyeah i tried the default xorg-fglrx package, but i was having lots of problems, i basically got it working w/ no acceleration, which did not help me much ;D04:09
dutchI have installed the kde 3.5 packages. But now when I start konqueror, it opens a white screen, how do I set it back to 'about:konqueror' ?04:10
_nano_dale_gribble: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2614804:10
dale_gribblehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358404:10
dutchit isn't the 'Home URL'04:10
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dale_gribblecool thanks for the link, i'll have to try to add those options04:12
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dale_gribbleany idea about the restricted packages tho?04:14
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hugelmopfdutch: open about:konqueror and save the view-profile04:21
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dutchthat's simple.04:22
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pmcze04:32
pms tu jacy Polacy?04:32
pmhello there04:33
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DarthVaderhello04:34
DarthVaderI have a little problem with Dapper Flight 2, is this the right place to get some help/suggestion? :-)04:34
pmanyone using kde 3.5.0?04:34
raphinkpm: yes, many04:35
andreas_DarthVader, yes04:35
raphinkDarthVader: what is  your problem?04:35
raphinkpm: and no, this is not a polish-speaking place04:35
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pmone quetsion? is it possible to upgrade via apt-get upgrade or should i uninstall kde 3.4.3 first?04:36
raphinkyes it is possible pm04:36
raphinkyou have to add the kde 3.5 repositories04:36
pmi know that ;)04:36
raphinkpm: see here :http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php04:37
DarthVaderwell, since I installed from the CD that version last week, I keep having to re-set the network settings everytimes in "Network Settings" (DHCP), and yesterday I upgraded a bunch of stuff and now it doesn't even want to activate the card anymore ...04:37
raphinkadd the repository, then apt-get dist-upgrade04:37
raphinkDarthVader: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebin please?04:37
DarthVaderraphink: no, I'm at work now, the Linux bo is at home :(04:38
DarthVaderbox04:38
raphinkDarthVader: that doesn't help i guess ;)04:38
pmso, i'll stay with kde 3.4.3 then04:38
raphinkDarthVader: try running dhclient from a console then04:38
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raphinkwhen you're @home04:38
raphinkpm: why?04:39
raphinkpm: I don't get what's wrong with the installation process with you?04:39
DarthVaderraphink: ok, thanks.04:39
pmi used that method once but my kde 3.5.0 behaved strange04:39
pmi thought it was because i didn't uninstall the old one04:40
raphinkno, there's no need to uninstall04:40
pmi returned to kde 3.4.304:40
raphinkhmm ok04:40
pmkwin crashed every 10 minutes04:40
pmit was impossible to work on it04:42
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raphinkdid you report the bug ?04:43
raphinkand do you know if this bug has been fixed since ?04:43
pmno, i didn't04:43
raphinkbugs are fixed everyday04:43
raphinkyou cannot be sure that this bug hasn't been fixed since ;)04:43
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raphinkand do not expect things to work if you don't report bugs when you have some04:43
DarthVaderI was a bit surprised to not find "make" altought I installed gcc ...04:44
DarthVaderI guess it's in a separate package04:44
raphinkDarthVader: install build-essential04:44
jjesseDarthVader: i think the better one to install is the build-essential packages04:44
raphinkto get the essential tools04:44
jjessei think thats its name04:44
raphinkI'd recommend you install checkinstall aswell ;)04:44
jjessegrin raphink types faster then me04:45
raphinkhehe ;)04:45
pmi think i'll wait for the next release04:46
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DarthVaderthanks guys04:46
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cracksitohi guys i have Ubuntu how can i install KDE on it?04:59
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pmsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:59
pmor sudo apt-get install kde04:59
cracksitokubuntu-desktop have 3.5  or i have to upgrade it?04:59
pmi don't know :/05:00
dutchsee kubuntu.org05:00
raphinkcracksito: by default kubuntu breezy has kde 3.4.305:00
jjesseyou have to setup a source for 3.5 breezy packages05:00
raphinkbut you can upgrade it05:00
jjessesee the anouncments05:01
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raphinkadding sources05:01
pmi think you should add sources first05:01
pmsee kubuntu.org05:01
nxv__hi, does (k)ubuntu only have a very old firefox version or is there a problem with the version string? i'd like to install flashblock but it says my version of firefox is too old05:01
pmkubuntu has firefox 1.005:02
pm1.0.7. to be precise05:03
Kaiser_Awaynxv__: are you using hoary??05:03
dutchnxv__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:03
dutchnxv__: if you want to install firefox 1.505:03
dutchwhich is fat05:03
dutch*fast05:03
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nxv__i have breezy running05:04
Kaiser_Awaythat should be fine :|05:04
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pmi don't use firefox from the ubuntu repos05:06
tvonIn KMail, what's the difference between a filter and a pop filter?05:06
nxv__the installation process under the given link is not very comfortable. what happens if i do a apt-get upgrade. will it again reinstall the old version?05:07
tvonoh, nevermind05:07
nxv__is there a reason for firefox beeing soo old? is mozilla newer or is breezy integrating the firfox successor?05:07
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tvonbreezy will not get a new firefox05:09
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tvonbreezy is bugfixes only05:09
usr506hi, ive installed kubuntu :P, look nice, but can i install firefox ??05:09
pmusr506, no you can't :/05:10
tvonuh, yes you can05:10
pmof course you can!!!05:11
tvonsudo apt-get install firefox05:11
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usr506ahh ok :)05:11
nxv__tvon: so i would have to wait for the next release in 04/06 for a new version if i want to run a stable system?05:12
tvonnxv__: yes05:12
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nxv__:(05:12
tvonOnce a release is made, the only package upgrades that come are bugfixes.05:13
tvonOnce a Ubuntu/Kubuntu release is made that is.05:13
pmyou can download the newest version of firefox form mozilla.org05:13
tvonYes, you can always do it yourself05:13
tvonThere is a page on the wiki about that05:14
dutchare all bugsfixes in firefox 1.5 been backported to firefox 1.07 ?05:14
tvondutch: I suspect not05:14
freemanenif you want to see what is planned to for kubuntu 6.0405:14
freemanenwhere do you look?05:14
usr506how install firefox ? apt-get doesnt find it :(05:14
tvonfreemanen: there is a roadmap on launchpad.net05:14
dutchif that's not the case, it's kinda stupid that kubuntu breezy  does not upgrade to firefox 1.505:15
tvonbreezy can't just go upgrading packages when a new release is made05:15
dutchusr506: mozilla-firefox ?05:15
freemanenand there you see the news?05:15
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dutchtvon: no, but if the bugs / security flaws aren't fixed either..05:15
tvona lot of packages depend on firefox, upgrading firefox means upgrading all those packages as well05:15
dutchso we keep a firefox system with security holes :)05:16
nxv__and how to install flash block if i have to use an old firefox version to stay stable?05:16
dutchsound logic :)05:16
tvondutch: security fixes are usually backported.. as are severe bugs05:16
dutchtvon: ok, well in that case05:16
pmwhich packages depend on firefox?05:16
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tvonerm, mostly GNOME stuff I think, I don't know if anything in kde uses it05:16
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dutchhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <= you can check it out, if you want firefox 1.505:17
dutchi'm using it now.. although the 32bit version in kubuntu 64, because of the flash thing.05:17
PupenoWhat method (vnc ?) do you recommend me to access my desktop from elsewhere ? I tried the kde desktop sharing thing, but it only last an hour.05:18
PupenoI want something permanent.05:18
dutchDepends: fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libidl0, libjpeg62, libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.10.1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1), libx11-6, libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, lib05:18
dutchfirefox depends on those packages.05:19
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pmi asked which packages depend on firefox?05:19
tvonits not what ff depends on, it's what depends on ff05:19
tvonIt's mostly gnome packages05:19
tvon(if not entirely)05:20
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dutchpm: oh sry05:20
usr506i can or i cannot install firefox ? :S05:20
dutchusr506: yes you can :)05:20
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pmi think there were 5-6 packages that i had to uninstall with firefox05:20
dutchusr506: apt-get install mozilla-firefox05:21
pmall of them unnecessary for me05:21
tvonEven so, that's not the whole point.  When a distro makes a release they need to keep it stable and you can't do that if you let new versions of packages in.  New versions always mean new bugs.05:21
tvonOh, sorry, it's 'firefox' in dapper05:21
dutchthat's why we use openoffice pre2.0 ?05:21
pmi don't use this :)05:22
tvondutch: as opposed to the final release? yes, becuase the final did not come out in time to test it so they test and fixup a pre-release instead.05:22
usr506if i cannot use firefox, i will use opera instead :P05:22
tvonOpera is pretty nice, I must admit05:22
pmyou can you firefox, but you have to get the version from mozilla.org05:23
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dutchI found it a little weird to use pre release version in a stable distro.. even when they are tested.. If it was stable it was allready final.05:23
dutchusr506: are you using dapper?05:23
pmyou can you = you can use ;)05:23
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tvondutch: it is a little odd... it just means the Ubuntu developers who maintain it are very brave05:23
dutchtvon: :)05:24
usr506no dutch im using breezy05:24
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tvonPeople who maintain large/complex packages are a little crazy05:24
dutchusr506: so why can't you just install mozilla-firefox ?05:24
usr506but apt-get doesnt found candidates05:24
dutchstrange05:24
tvonapt-cache search firefox05:25
dutchhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47178905:26
dutchI think there is something wrong with your apt.05:26
pmhow many of you switched to ubuntu form debian or some debian-based distro?05:26
dutchI did.05:26
uraanime too05:26
usr506root@kubuntu:/home/jorge# apt-cache search firefox05:26
usr506mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb - Mozilla Firefox English language/region package05:26
usr506openoffice.org2 - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.005:26
dutch!pastebin05:26
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:26
usr506thats all :S05:26
tvonerm.. I think I was using Fedora05:27
dutchusr506 check your sources.list05:27
pmdutch, uranani,   debian?05:27
tvonusr506: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list at pastebin05:27
dutchdebian05:27
pmor debian-based?05:27
tvonIs Adept in breezy?05:27
uraanipm: debian testing05:27
dutchbtw I'm still using debian on my server05:28
dutchdebian sarge, was woody.05:28
pmi'm fresh - ubuntu is my first debian-based distro :)05:28
usr506ohh, i uncomment lines and now im updating packages :)05:28
usr506i really liked kubuntu, with firefox it gets better05:29
dutchwhat's wrong with konqueror ?05:29
pmi hate konqueror05:29
tvonI'd like konq okay if it worked with *.google.com05:29
dutchI'm using konqueror most of the time.. only when a site won't render correctly I switch back to firefox3205:30
pmit's  great as a file manager though05:30
dutchtvon google ?05:30
usr506i like firefox05:30
dutchtvon: what isn't working ?05:30
tvondutch: maps.google.com, local.google.com and gmail don't work with konqueror05:30
dutchwell i'm using gmail in konqueror05:30
tvondutch: maps.google.com just keeps redirecting or doesn't render (depending what UA I use)05:31
tvongmail either reverts to vanilla HTML or renders poorly epending on what UA I use05:31
dutchgmail in konqueror works if you change the user-agent string :)05:31
tvondutch: which one do you use?05:31
dutchyes some UI errors..05:31
dutchbut it works :)05:31
tvonoh, heh05:31
tvonI demand perfection!05:31
dutchbut that's not konqueror fault05:31
tvonheh, not really, Opera is a little glitchy too05:32
dutchgoogle uses specific mozilla and IE javascript things05:32
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dutchwhich is bad, I think.05:32
tvonyeah, it does05:32
dutchIs it not possible for konqueror to use the gecko engine of firefox ?05:33
dutchinstead of khtml05:33
tvonthere was a mozillapart at some point, I don't know if it's still around05:33
_nano_konqueror sucks at flash plugins too in my case :(05:33
tvonIt's been a while since I used KDE full time.. probably 3 years05:33
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pmwhy use konqueror if you can use superb firefox or opera?05:34
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tvonBecause konqueror is "integrated"05:34
dutchflash sucks anyway05:34
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usr506im installing firefox :D05:35
pmie is integrated as well :)05:35
dutchI don't get it, why is macromedia not compiling a 64 bit version.05:35
dutchIE is too much inegrated05:35
dutch*integrated.05:35
tvonpm: true, but I don't care about Windows being integrated :)05:36
dutchwell the whole windows things it too much integrated.05:36
dutchIt's a good thing vista will have the Desktop and Kernel seperated like Linux.05:36
pmvista is becomin very unix-like, don't you think?05:37
dutchdon't know.. it will get a unix like console thing.05:38
dutcha good thing too.05:38
_nano_tvon: what does it mean by "integrated"?05:38
tvon_nano_: "Made to work very well with the rest of the desktop"05:38
tvon_nano_: better?05:38
Snake__Hey can anyone help me?05:38
dutchprobably not05:39
Snake__Im trying to complie conky05:39
tvonIs it medical?05:39
tvonoh05:39
Snake__Not yet05:39
Snake__:)05:39
_nano_Snake__: you could get conky from apt-get i guess05:39
dutchwhat is conky05:39
Snake__I could, but its an older version05:39
_nano_!conky05:39
ubotu_nano_: Do they come in packets of five?05:39
_nano_darn05:39
Snake__....foolish bot05:39
dutchI'm lazy to use google :)05:39
pmi thought conky was a nickname for konqueror :D05:39
Snake__no lol05:40
dutchking conky05:40
Snake__Its a system moniter05:40
tvonman YaKuake is the sweetest terminal I've ever seen05:40
djk_!info conky05:40
ubotuconky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB05:40
Snake__it watchs ur CPU and all net write andread etc05:40
Snake__there ya go05:40
dutchah looks nice05:41
DarthVaderis there a package for installing Linux source code? my PC does HyperThreading but the kernel that come with Flight 2 doesn't seems to have HT enabled ...05:41
Snake__The on in the repos is 1.3.1 tho05:41
Snake__latest is 1.3.405:41
dutchdoes HT really matters ?05:42
Snake__HT as in hyper threading?05:42
DarthVaderdutch: well it's suppose to "improve performance" in some case05:42
DarthVaderSnake__: yes05:42
Snake__Or AMD's HT05:42
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Snake__They are diffrent05:42
Snake__lol05:42
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dutchwell you can't turn off / on AMD's HT05:43
DarthVaderdutch: I'm on Intel05:43
dutchI know05:43
dutch:D05:43
Snake__Intels hyper threading does a lot more for its processors than AMDs hyper transport does05:43
dutchjust a respond to Snake__05:43
dutchIntel sucks05:43
dutchin many ways05:43
Snake__Agreed05:43
_nano_dutch: AMD sucks only in one way -- heating :(05:44
dutchbut I won't start a discussion on that :)05:44
Snake__I used to be a intel fanboy until DRM05:44
Snake__After they slipped the DRM on their chips, I will never buy another05:44
pmanyone knows how to compile gtk2 version of audacity 1.2.4?05:44
dutchmy last Intel was a 386 :D05:44
DarthVaderso If I want to recompile the kernel, can I grab any source TGZ from the web or is there a special package for Kunbuntu?05:44
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tvonDarthVader: there is a package05:44
_nano_dutch: 386?? lol !05:44
_nano_dutch: do you still have that? you could fetch antique price for that in the market :D05:45
tvonDarthVader: that includes all the patches in packaged the ubuntu kernel.  You should use it05:45
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dutchoh wait. no not true.. I got a celeron between my cyrix and amd's05:45
DarthVadertvon: thanks. Which one is it?05:45
dutchhmm05:45
dutchbtw cyris really sucks :D05:45
tvonDarthVader: not sure... try 'apt-cache search kernel-source'05:45
dutchwell I once got a 8086 XT laptop05:45
DarthVadertvon: thanks a lot05:46
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tvonDarthVader: wait, you want linux-source05:46
dutchtvon: I think he means the kernel05:46
tvondutch: yeah, ubuntu uses linux-[image|source]  for kernel packages05:47
dutchSnake__: btw there is a deb for conky (amd64) on sf.net05:47
Snake__Ya I Just seen the debs now :(05:47
Snake__Im so blind05:47
Snake__lol05:47
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tvonkernel-source is an old (2.4) Debian upstream package05:47
tvonDarthVader: use kpackage too05:48
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naliothdutch: Snake__ conky is in the repos (and it is trivial to compile from source)05:49
pmwhich kernel version you use?05:49
Snake__nalioth: the one in the repos is ol05:49
Snake__d05:49
_nano_nalioth: hi :)05:49
Snake__1.3.1 is in the repos, 1.3.4 is the latest05:50
naliothyes, but compiling from cvs is the way to go for conky05:50
obsvuugjanyone knows how to compile with kdevelop ?05:50
Snake__cvs?05:50
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Snake__Pardon my stupidity05:50
_nano_btw i couldn't get conky to read my acpi temperature, as my laptop doesn't seem to have hardware sensors :(05:51
ubuntuhi, ive a question: Does a shell-command exist which masks special chars like + --> \+05:51
Snake___nano_: did you get it off the repos?05:51
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_nano_Snake__: yea05:51
Snake___nano_: yesterday a guy said it was horrid05:51
Snake__lol05:52
naliothSnake__: concurrent versioning system (means it's the latest version the devs are actually working on atm)05:52
_nano_Snake__: what's horrid?05:52
Snake__the conky in the repos05:52
Snake__He said the latest one was muc hbetter05:52
_nano_lemme check the changelog05:52
Snake__I was lookin at that05:53
_nano_Snake__: could you point me to the website? if you are on it now?05:53
DarthVadertvon: yes I meant the kernel source05:53
Snake___nano_: want the change long?05:53
_nano_Snake__: yeah sure05:53
Snake__http://conky.sourceforge.net/changelog.html05:53
tvonDarthVader: I know, 'linux-source' is the package you want, not 'kernel-source'05:54
tvonlinux-source-2.6.something05:54
bhnahow can i change the time that the aic7xxx kernel is waiting or probing?05:54
Snake__Dude theres all kinds of memleaks in 3.1.105:54
_nano_Snake__: aah! the acpi segfault is fixed \o/05:55
_nano_Snake__: that's what I was getting with the repos05:56
Snake__lol05:56
Snake___nano_: and thats we use latest versions of software :)05:56
DarthVadertvon: thanks05:56
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tvonDarthVader: np05:56
Snake__Exceept I cant get the flamer to complie05:57
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naliothSnake__: got all the depends? type "sudo apt-get build-dep conky"05:59
Snake__ahh nope05:59
Snake__that might be why06:00
_nano_Snake__: just compiled it06:02
_nano_Snake__: and runs pretty ok ...:)06:02
Snake__I was missing some builds06:02
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Snake__The following NEW packages will be installed:06:03
Snake__  build-essential debconf-utils debhelper dpkg-dev gettext html2text06:03
Snake__  intltool-debian libice-dev libsm-dev libxau-dev libxext-dev libxi-dev06:03
Snake__Ya some builds...06:03
Snake__:)06:03
naliothSnake__: <ahem> /topic06:03
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Snake__I was missing a whole lot more than that, I shortened it for the channel :)06:04
_newbie_How should I do to accurate center text in GIMP?06:04
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JochenHallo06:05
JochenQuestion: Where do I make system wide compiler settings forever?06:05
JochenHas anybody of you a idea?06:05
JochenFor example the compiler flags for the AthlonXP CPU06:05
Snake__!auto apt06:05
ubotuSnake__: I don't know, could you explain it?06:05
Snake__Grr06:05
naliothubotu: tell Snake__ about checkinstall06:06
JochenI think I found the sollution06:06
JochenI made the entries as export in the /etc/rc.config06:07
Snake__thanks06:07
JochenI make06:07
Jochensorry06:07
JochenThe file for system wide: /etc/bash.bashrc06:08
Jocheninstead of /home/user/bash.bashrc06:08
naliothJochen: in your home it's ~/.bashrc06:08
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eXistenZhello, there is some slowness in Konqueror web browisng, although I get high download speed. How can I fix it06:09
djk_does bittornado support resuming?06:09
JochenThank you for your help again!06:10
JochenYou are wonderfull06:10
Jochenbye06:10
_newbie_How should I do to accurate center text in GIMP?06:11
tvonGimp text manupulation is pretty basic..06:11
tvonbut, you can select the layer and any other layers you wan to align against and use 'align visible layers'06:12
naliothdjk_: yes it does.06:12
tvoninkscape is a lot nicer for that sorta thing though, if you aren't doing too much pixel work06:12
_newbie_tvon: Thanks!06:12
tvon_newbie_: np06:12
djk_nalioth: thanks.06:12
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callieevening06:15
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calliedid you move closer to the monitor?06:22
tvonahhhhh, yeah06:22
tvon;)06:22
callielol06:22
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tvonhrm.. something musta been upgraded...06:23
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tvonI should really pay attention to these things.. 8pt just became the nice size, was 12pt a few minutes ago06:23
_mikeio06:23
calliemaybe your eyes are evolving?06:23
tvoncould be06:24
EauTisseis there a GUI frontend for a firewall that anyone would recommend ?06:24
tvonmaybe it's the coffee06:24
naliothEauTisse: a firewall is unnecessary in a default install06:24
EauTisseI see "firewall builder" on SourceForge06:24
callieEauTisse: firestarter?06:24
EauTisseaha, I'll go see06:24
callietheyre talking firewalls in #ubuntu right now too06:24
djk_guarddog, firestarter... just plain iptables in cli :)06:24
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EauTissenalioth: you mean all the ports are shut by default ?06:25
naliothEauTisse: i mean there are no services behind the ports to open them06:25
EauTisseyeah, ok06:25
ejofeewhich one is best: evolution, thunderbird, or kmail?06:26
djk_nalioth: but the default install has iptables, so technically, the configuration of it is unnecessary ;)06:26
naliothdjk_: um, yes.06:26
calliekmail is just fine for me ejofee06:27
naliothejofee: use all of them, keep the one you like06:27
EauTissea quick reminder please, rpm doesn't work with apt-get, right ? I guess I have to build from sources06:28
callieor use alien EauTisse06:29
morrowtry "alien"06:29
naliothEauTisse: yes, building from sources is better than using non-ubuntu pkgs06:29
calliealien can convert rpm to .deb06:29
naliothmorrow: it's not advised, if one knows how to compile06:29
naliothubotu: tell EauTisse about checkinstall06:29
EauTisseok, thx for all the good tips06:29
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morrownalioth: if one knows how to compile, he wouldn't start searching for a rpm. :)06:30
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calliei know how to compile morrow i choose not to06:30
mipsHi06:31
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mipsIs Flight CD 2 a live cd or install CD for Dapper ???06:31
naliothmorrow: some times quick and easy is a strong attraction06:32
naliothmips: you can get it both ways06:33
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mipsnliotg: Where do I download it from ? Want to give it a bash06:33
naliothmorrow: using rpms and other non-ubuntu binary packages can cause problems06:33
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naliothmips: cdimage.ubuntu.com06:34
mipsThanks06:34
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EauTissemorrow: I also know how to compile ... did that with the NVidia drivers ....06:36
EauTissemorrow: I just don't see the point if there's a shortcut06:36
naliothEauTisse: your "rpm shortcut" can cause severe problems for ubuntu06:36
EauTisseubotu: thanks for the PM06:37
ubotupas de quoi, EauTisse06:37
EauTissepile poil ;-)06:38
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kakeihi guys i install kubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu but i can't go to KDE06:41
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bhnakakei: change the session in your gdm login screen to kde.06:42
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naliothbhna: that is not the problem06:43
naliothkakei: at your login, click 'sessions' and select "kde"06:43
kakeinalioth i did that but06:44
kakeiit open the KDE normal screen and them GNOME o.O06:44
nalioththen something isn't right06:44
bhnanalioth: ? i wrote the same06:45
kakeihow can i check whats missin06:45
naliothbhna: you wrote to change the window mangler06:45
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naliothkakei: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"06:45
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kakeididnt dowload anythin nalioht06:46
naliothkakei: didnt fix anything, either?06:46
kakeino06:46
bhnanalioth: you wrote click session an d select kde i wrote change the session in your gdm login screen. thats the same.06:46
naliothok then "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"06:46
kakeidone06:47
nalioth11:42 < bhna> kakei: change the session in your gdm login screen to kde    <<<< this confuses me, i'm not sure what other users think06:47
kakeihm wait06:47
kakeilemme try again06:47
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kakeiu know the KDE Login screen? well i see it, and then doesnt start to charge KDE it start to charge Gnome06:48
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kakeinoirequus :  know the KDE Login screen? well i see it, and then doesnt start to charge KDE it start to charge Gnome06:51
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noirequuskakei: i'm lost atm, and have business in the world of flesh.06:51
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bhnanoirequus: "at login klick session" is better? wich login? loginmanager login at console ... ok so long. thank you for your comments.06:52
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kkathmankakei: at the login screen, is there a selection under "sessions" for KDE?06:54
tvonbhna: I don't have time to help you, but there should be a 'session' button with a menu to let you select kde or gnome06:55
kkathmantvon: right06:55
freelovewhats the command to set root password?06:55
kkathmantypically at any one point you have a "default" session06:55
bhnatvon: it's kakei's problem06:56
tvonI might have said that to the wrong person, I'm not entirely paying attention here06:56
kkathmanfreelove: you dont really need to use the root in ubuntu/kubuntu06:56
tvonbhna: ah, sorry about that06:56
bhnatvon: no problem ;-)06:56
tvonfor ##!@##$ sake dont give root a password06:56
tvonk, seriously, back to other things06:56
freelovekkathman: i know that....but i need it for my brother's account.......i cant make him sudoer or he'll spoil my system!06:57
kkathmanyes thats the sole cause to major problems in a linux install06:57
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_adminexit06:57
kkathmanuse sudo on your account06:57
freelovekkathman: but sometimes when he's running the pc, ive to log him out, then log myself in to change something!!06:58
kkathmanif you use sudo at the cli, or kdesu in KDE, you can do ANYTHING the root account can06:58
kkathmanthats fine...just use sudo06:58
freelovekkathman: i KNOW that!! but i cant give sudo privileges to my bro........with his password he'll wreak havoc!!06:58
kkathmanthen dont06:59
kkathmanwhy would he need to be in the sudoers file then :)06:59
Snake___nano_: you said you got conky working??06:59
freelovekkathman: then what are u suggesting?06:59
kkathmaneducate him06:59
_nano_Snake__: yup ! even the acpi temp is working now :D06:59
_nano_Snake__: thanks for the tip off :D06:59
freelovekkathman: &^%#@%#@#@#%@!#%@!%#@%#&@^%#&@^#&@^ ur not undertsanding my problem!07:00
Snake___nano_: is it embedded into your background??07:00
_nano_Snake__: yeah?07:00
Snake__Like mine looks like its part of the background, and I cant exit it or anything07:00
_nano_you run it from console right?07:00
Snake__Ya07:00
_nano_you could kill the process07:00
Snake__It doesnt work07:01
Snake__oh there it goes07:01
freeloveplz will no one help me? often i want to install stuff for my bro through his account but can't!07:01
Snake__well how do I get it to run in a window??07:01
tvonfreelove: What's your problem exactly, beyond setting roots password?07:01
Snake___nano_: never mind I got it07:02
freelovetvon: look.....my bro has a non-sudo account.....he knows his passwd....now often i want to do things while STILL being in his account...how to do this??07:03
kkathmanfreelove - listen to me... if you need "root" priviledges, you need only prefix the command with "sudo"07:03
kkathmanfreelove: su works...su to his name and enter his password07:03
kkathmanthen you can "be him"07:03
tvonfreelove: if you use the terminal you can su to your account and sudo from there07:03
kkathmanthen su back to your name07:03
kkathmanright07:04
kkathmanhow is this so hard?07:04
freelovetvon: how? plz explain...07:04
kkathmansudo gives you root access to any command07:04
kkathmanyou dont HAVE to su to root07:04
tvonfreelove: "su username" will let you become the user "username"07:04
kkathmanthats the beauty :)07:04
kkathmantvon: which we've already explained07:04
freelovephew! THANKS! tvon & kkathman07:05
tvonfreelove: np07:05
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kkathmanLeeJunFan:  :)07:05
tvonkkathman: I think he missed something in using su to get to another user and not root, thats all.07:05
LeeJunFankkathman!07:05
kkathmantvon I guess so :)07:05
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tvonanother problem solved by the justice league of kubuntites07:05
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kkathmanHey LeeJunFan are you up on current hardware/CPUS ??07:05
kkathmanor is anyone?07:06
Snake__Wheres its config file now..07:06
LeeJunFankkathman: not really. I've been a laptop guy for the last 6 or so years, haven't been building much of anything myself.07:06
tvonlaptop cpus maybe07:06
kkathmanahh ok07:06
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freelovenow for some objective talk;).......kde is so buggy....especally when i log out or shut down!07:06
kkathmanfreelove: not for me at all07:06
Snake__Shut down here07:06
LeeJunFanfreelove: how so? not for me.07:06
kkathmanmine is solid as a rock07:06
freeloveor is it with kubuntu? i upgraded to 3.5......07:07
Snake__My PC does not like to shutdown07:07
Snake__or restart07:07
tvonfreelove: maybe your brother broke something :)07:07
kkathmanlol tvon07:07
freelovelol07:07
freeloveno he cant07:07
tvonI'l bet he knows your password :-D07:07
freelovehe doesnt07:07
freelove;D07:07
kkathmanfreelove: can you please define "buggy"  what is it specifically doing?07:07
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tvonfreelove: fyi, if you proclaim large groups of software as 'buggy' without giving detail... well, some people get a little sensitive about it and might get annoyed07:08
freelovein kde 3.5, when i shut down it tells me "cannot talk to klauncher" and ive to press OK then it quits.......07:08
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freelovetvon: right..will be careful;)07:08
kkathmanahhhhhh well, theres the 1st problem07:08
kkathmanKDE 3.507:08
kkathmanthere are some instabilities in 3.5 that cause it to not work correctly with some applications07:09
freelovekkathman: is kde 3.5 buggy or kubuntu's packages for it are?07:09
kkathmanthis isnt because 3.5 is unstable, but because many applications havent caught up with it07:09
kkathmanLeeJunFan is an expert with 3.5, and apparently has a flawless implementation and might could help you diagnose the problem.07:10
freelovekkathman: btw leejunfan is a nice nick:D07:10
LeeJunFankkathman: hah.07:10
LeeJunFankkathman: you know what leejunfan is?07:10
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LeeJunFankkathman: not many people do.07:11
kkathmanLeeJunFan:  told me the other day that running 3.5 is basically a matter of knowledge of the system (which I do not have because I dont run 3.5)07:11
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freelovehmm.....i shouldnt have upgraded:(07:12
kkathmanyes I am aware of who LeeJunFan is07:12
kkathmanfreelove: but he might be able to help you07:12
kkathmansince he's tackled all these integration points07:13
LeeJunFankkathman: it's not that I've tackled them so much as I appear to have some type of immunity :)07:13
freeloveLeeJunFan: can u solve my shutting down problem plz?07:13
LeeJunFanfreelove: what is or isn't it doing when you shut down?07:13
kkathmanLee Jun Fan, btw - Bruce Lee07:13
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freelovewhen i shut down it tells me "cannot talk to klauncher" and ive to press OK then it quits.......07:14
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Snake__How do you save config files?07:16
Snake__what do you save them as07:16
freeloveLeeJunFan: when i shut down it tells me "cannot talk to klauncher" and ive to press OK then it quits.......07:16
LeeJunFanfreelove: perhaps a file in your /tmp or /var/tmp dirs has the wrong permissions and you can't talk to dcop server.07:16
freeloveLeeJunFan: hmm..so how to fix this quickly?07:18
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LeeJunFanfreelove: sudo chown -R [username]  /var/tmp/kdecache-[username]  && sudo chown -R [username]  /tmp/kde-[username]  && chown -R [username]  /tmp/ksocket-[username] 07:19
LeeJunFanfreelove: substitute [username]  with the username you normally log in as.07:20
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LeeJunFanalso - missing sudo in last one. put sudo before last chown -R07:20
freeloveLeeJunFan: WOW! THANKS!07:21
LeeJunFanfreelove: well, if it works :)07:21
LeeJunFanfreelove: that will make sure all of kde's tmp files are owned by your user instead of root in the event that it somehow got messed in the past by possibly running a KDE app with sudo, using sudo for kde apps is bad btw, because this kind of thing can happen.07:22
freeloveLeeJunFan: i very frequently use the command kdesu konqueror.....anything wrong with that?07:24
LeeJunFanfreelove: that's how you are supposed to do it to avoid a permissions problem.07:24
freeloveLeeJunFan: hmm...okie:D07:25
LeeJunFanfreelove: you might also want to make sure all your $HOME files are owned properly by your user by running 'sudo chown -R [username]  /home/[username] '07:25
LeeJunFanwell, I'm off to go climb a 100' tower with loose guy wires, so maybe I'll be back later. :)07:26
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seth_k|lappyCommunity Council meeting 20:00 GMT07:31
kkathmanseth_k|lappy: hey!  Community Council?07:32
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seth_k|lappykkathman, yup07:33
seth_k|lappyin #ubuntu-meeting -- see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda07:35
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slow-motionbbl07:36
eXistenZhey, is it recommended to use automatix?07:36
seth_k|lappynot really07:36
seth_k|lappywe have reports of it breaking systems07:37
seth_k|lappybut ymmv, i heard he switched it to a sudo system07:37
eXistenZI see07:37
sampanoriginal automatix definitely messed up a bunch of little things on my first breezy install07:38
seth_k|lappybut i know of at least two people that had to reinstall Ubuntu after automatix got through with them07:38
sampanseth, *nod* make that three :X07:38
eXistenZI see07:38
eXistenZseth_k|lappy, is it safe as well to enable backports?07:38
seth_k|lappyeXistenZ, yes, that's safer than automatix, because it's an official Ubuntu project. I do some backports myself.07:39
dewdudewhy is it when i try to install beep plugins....Adept always says the action is BREAK (install)07:39
robotgeekseth_k|lappy: later07:39
seth_k|lappysee ya robotgeek07:39
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seth_k|lappydewdude, that means some dependencies are unmet... where are you getting the plugins? right out of an official repo?07:40
dewdudeyes07:40
dewdudei believe07:40
dewdudei think07:40
dewdudelemme check07:40
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dewdudeactually07:41
eXistenZseth_k|lappy, are there any better codecs for wmv/mp3 than w32codecs?07:41
dewdudeprobably not07:41
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vbgunznetworking for wireless cards do not work in Kubuntu Dapper Flight 2 huh?07:41
dewdudei think they're coming from the rarewares repository07:41
dewdudelemme remove that and try again07:41
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seth_k|lappyeXistenZ, nope, that's what ya get07:42
Borszczukanyone can give me a hint how to make vanilla kernel 'make install' to use GRUB instead of LILO?07:42
dewdudeok, that was my problem07:42
dewdudelovely07:42
eXistenZseth_k|lappy, do you use inetd or xientd?07:42
dewdudenow i get to figure out what these plugins needed so i can pull them from rarewares07:43
seth_k|lappyinetd07:43
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dewdudeseth_k|lappy, thanks..i forgot i added that one repository07:44
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seth_k|lappydewdude, np... be careful when adding extra repos07:45
dewdudei know07:46
dewdudethe rarewares i had on another system that helped me with a lot of music stuff07:46
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dewdudei'm just having fun getting all my formats to work07:46
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dewdudepoor XMMS wouldn't load from my music drive, at all07:46
eXistenZseth_k|lappy, is it possible make realplayer support alsa, because I cannot play both xmms/realplayer at the same time07:48
seth_k|lappyeXistenZ, ew. why would you even use realplayer :P07:49
dewdudeman...ubuntu is like riding a unicycle...you'll forget but it starts coming back to ya07:49
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eXistenZseth_k|lappy, how do you open ram files?07:50
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dewdudewhy would you play BOTH at the same time?07:50
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eXistenZdewdude, I'm not talking only about realplayer, there is another dictionary program with pronounciation which sometimes I use while listening to songs, so it's  just annoying when you keep stopping songs just to listen to words.07:52
Snake__!mp307:52
Glin|JolWinamp not Running07:52
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:52
Snake__Doesn't bmp support MP3 Out of the box?07:53
dewdudeahhh07:53
dewdudethat makes some sense07:53
dewdudedid you try using ALSA with full duplex07:53
eXistenZdewdude, what audio server is installed/used in kubuntu?07:54
dewdudei've got like07:54
dewdudeseveral07:54
dewdudei use ALSA07:54
dewdudecame installed07:54
dewdudeOSS came installed too07:55
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eXistenZdewdude, these are not audio servers, I mean jack/arts07:55
dewdudeoh07:55
dewdudeok07:55
dewdudenvm then07:55
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Lacertai made just a fresh kubuntu install07:58
Lacertathe system still crashes if i sneeze or so...07:59
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Lacertai think it's the KDE07:59
Snake__Hey anyone on KDE 3.5, can you right click on your menu???07:59
Snake__Does it act like a left click07:59
dewdudeno08:00
Snake__no what08:00
dewdudemine brings up a different menu with options08:00
dewdudemove this panel08:00
dewdudeedit08:00
Snake__Crap why doesnt mine...08:00
Snake__Ah I figure out why08:00
Snake__I locked the panels08:00
dewdudeheh08:01
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TraziHi08:04
TraziDo you know if exists in kubuntu some similar to /etc/gentoo-release?08:05
dewdudehrmm08:05
dewdude/etc/debian-version08:05
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Rogue_Jedi_XHey, uh. Anyone have the time and knowledge to help me set up my shitty joystick?08:07
TraziThx :)08:07
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dewdudenp Trazi08:08
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dewdudei don't even have a gameport on my PC08:08
Rogue_Jedi_XDang08:08
dewdudeoh..yes i do08:08
dewdudethat's right08:08
dewdudei think i have two now that i look08:08
Rogue_Jedi_XI have it plugged in and...I'm lost08:08
Rogue_Jedi_XSame here. One on my motherboard and one on my sound card08:09
dewdudei think i just have the one08:09
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dewdudethe onboard sound lacks a port08:09
dewdudei don't even have onboard sound enabled08:09
dewdudespeaking of sound08:09
Rogue_Jedi_XLikewise, that's why it's plugged into the sound card08:09
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dewdudemaybe i should try getting flac to work first08:09
djk_Rogue_Jedi_X: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55173&08:09
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djk_maybe that helps08:10
eXistenZdewdude, how can you enable w32codecs in amarok?08:10
dewdudei don't think you can08:11
dewdudebecause amarok uses gstreamer engine for playing media08:11
TraziGura08:11
eXistenZaha08:11
dewdudedude..don't even ask me about sound right now08:11
TraziOooooop08:11
TraziSorry08:11
dewdudei'm having my own fun08:11
apokryphoseXistenZ: to get mp3s working fine with amaroK install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg, or get the xine-engine08:11
dewdudeapokryphos, ok....flac, wma, and monkeys audio for bmp...08:12
dewdudewma is a low priority08:12
apokryphoswhat?08:12
eXistenZapokryphos, which do you prefer08:12
dewdudeheh..nvm08:12
apokryphoseXistenZ: both08:12
apokryphosI tend to stick to the xine-engine though08:13
eXistenZapokryphos, what audio server does kubuntu use?08:13
Rogue_Jedi_Xdjk_: It didn't work ;_;08:13
apokryphoseXistenZ: KDE uses aRts08:13
dewdudewho was asking about having multiple sounds at once?08:14
asranielis it just me or does kopete hae a problem with msn right now? or does msn have a problem? i cant login08:14
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apokryphosasraniel: same here08:14
apokryphosit's a problem with the msn server, I imagine08:15
asranielok, i was already getting angry against my router... then i can relax :-)08:15
dewdudeit usually is MSN08:15
dewdudethey like to block third party clients08:15
eXistenZapokryphos, I thought it uses jack08:15
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apokryphosnope08:16
apokryphosdewdude: and no, I doubt it's that this time08:16
djk_Rogue_Jedi_X: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75063.html try this then..one of them worked for me.08:16
eXistenZapokryphos, is it possible to use multiple sounds at the same time with arts? or is it better to use alsa with xmms?08:16
Rogue_Jedi_Xdjk_: Thanks08:16
dewdudeoh08:17
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dewdudei'm about ready to wipe this partition and start over08:17
apokryphoseXistenZ: (i) why would you use xmms? (ii) you can use gstreamer engine with alsa dmix mixing for multiple sounds08:17
apokryphos!dmix08:17
ubotusomebody said dmix was at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:17
apokryphosthough, as I said, I stick to xine for media (audio and video)08:18
eXistenZapokryphos, what if I have a program that doesn't support alsa and runs sounds?08:18
eXistenZapokryphos, what is the name of the xine-engine pacakge08:18
apokryphoseXistenZ: for amarok, it's amarok-xine08:18
apokryphosI presume the sounds would play fine; alsa wouldn't be hogging the sound server08:18
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dewdudedoes xine support flac and other odd formats?08:20
_nano_after upgrading to 3.5 my kaffeine player shows "No URI handler implemented for" errors..anyone else got this?08:20
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eXistenZapokryphos, I can find only gstreamer in the engines for amarok after I Installed xine-engine08:21
apokryphoseXistenZ: restart amarok08:21
apokryphosdewdude: not sure; you could ask Google08:21
dewdudeyeah08:21
dewdudeit doesn't look easy08:21
dewdudei'm thinking..i've been playing with packages too much08:22
dewdudeand i think i broke some stuff08:22
dewdudei need to swap my video card out anyway08:22
eXistenZapokryphos, well, still, I cannot find it in the list =/08:22
dewdudei'm going to reformat the partition and start fresh08:22
eXistenZapokryphos, do I need to install any other packages other than amarok and xine-amarok08:22
dewdudethat's mah plan08:22
apokryphoseXistenZ: amarok-xine is *definitely* installed?08:22
dewdudebye08:22
apokryphoseXistenZ: dpkg -l|grep amarok-xine   ..gives?08:23
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eXistenZii  amarok-xine                            1.3.1-0ubuntu4                     xine engine for the amaroK audio player08:24
Rogue_Jedi_XSomeone mentioned crying earlier? I think I might join them08:24
apokryphosdated version, but it should be ok. Hm.08:24
apokryphoseXistenZ: it might be worth trying out the latest version, especially since there are kubuntu packs out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php08:26
Rogue_Jedi_XWoo! Fixed it! Thanks, djk_! That second forum post did it for me08:27
djk_:)08:27
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eXistenZapokryphos, does the xine engine use alsa08:28
apokryphosaha, messenger is down.  http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx08:28
Rogue_Jedi_XVegastrike, here I come08:28
apokryphoseXistenZ: it can08:28
eXistenZapokryphos, do you use gaim for the messenger08:28
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apokryphoseXistenZ: no, gaim sucks :)08:29
eXistenZapokryphos, amsn?08:29
apokryphosKopete of course =)08:30
eXistenZeh08:30
apokryphosit's the best out there08:30
apokryphosespecially now with quality webcam support :D08:30
maxmanbechecking whether gcc is blacklisted... no08:31
maxmanbechecking whether g++ supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... no08:31
maxmanbechecking whether gcc supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... yes08:31
maxmanbechecking whether g++ supports -Wundef... no08:31
maxmanbechecking whether g++ supports -Wno-long-long... no08:31
maxmanbechecking whether g++ supports -Wnon-virtual-dtor... no08:31
maxmanbechecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp08:31
maxmanbeconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:31
maxmanbeSee `config.log' for more details.08:31
maxmanbehelp :'(08:31
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eXistenZapokryphos, now it works, but when I click on a song it stops immediately08:32
apokryphosmaxmanbe: don't paste in here please. Check the /topic08:32
apokryphosmaxmanbe: install build-essential08:32
apokryphoseXistenZ: you installed the new amarok and amarok-xine package?08:32
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maxmanbeow *blush*08:32
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maxmanbethanks08:32
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robotgeekhey apokryphos08:33
robotgeekseth_k|lappy: back08:33
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seth_k|lappyrobotgeek, me too, nice job :P08:33
eXistenZapokryphos, yep, they were installed automatically08:33
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eXistenZapokryphos, the xine works, just the songs stop immediately when I try the play them08:33
apokryphoseXistenZ: any error message at the bottom-left of amarok player?08:34
apokryphoseXistenZ: you installed akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad?08:34
apokryphosI think the former might still be needed for some obscure reason08:34
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eXistenZapokryphos, works now :)08:35
eXistenZthank you so much08:35
apokryphoscool08:36
eXistenZapokryphos, my surround is working :p08:36
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apokryphos=)08:38
kkathmanhey apokryphos :)08:38
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kkathmanapokryphos: Happy Holidays to you :)08:38
apokryphoshey08:38
apokryphosyou too =)08:38
eXistenZkkathman, is Merry Christmas forbidden or what?08:39
kkathmanNot that I know of :)08:39
kkathmanits just not Christmas yet :)08:39
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maxmanbehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/47209108:44
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eXistenZapokryphos, the program I'm telling you about uses these modules, what most likely will it be using: libasound.so.2.0.0, libfaad.so, libmad,so , libvlcplugin.so08:46
apokryphoseh?08:46
eXistenZapokryphos, I got a dictionary program here which uses these files to produce sounds, is it possible to let it work concurrently with amarok08:47
angasuleeXistenZ: which program?08:48
bhsxhi, I installed samba so that I could setup network shares to my XP box.  i have a few shares now, but when i try to access them, i keep getting kicked-back to the login prompt, any ideas?08:48
apokryphosit should08:48
angasulebhsx: have you placed the login & password for the XP box correctly in the samba config?08:49
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bhsxthat's what i'm checking now08:50
eXistenZapokryphos, not really, even after I try to play sounds, amarok stops the load mp3 files08:50
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apokryphoseXistenZ: when you're using xine?08:50
angasuleeXistenZ: where did you get it? I don't see it in universe or multiverse08:51
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angasuleoh, apokryphos was that guy, eXistenZ , what's the name of the dictionary program that spells out? I'm very interested in it08:53
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angasulegreat :/08:57
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bhsxok i did a 'sudo systemsettings' and would like to configure samba, which i just installed... can anyone lend a hand?08:58
bhsxbecause something's wrong...  i can't login to the shares08:58
apokryphosangasule: no idea, but I'm sure you could use kde's accessibility features (ktts) to get it to spell out any word for you08:59
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angasuleapokryphos: works for any language?09:00
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apokryphosprobably not09:01
angasulebhsx: go to System (menu next to the k-menu)->Settings09:01
angasulebhsx: then go to Local Network Browsing09:01
bhsxi'm there09:01
angasulewhere it says 'default user name' and 'default password' input your winXP login and password09:02
jahshuai would just like to say09:02
jahshuai love kubuntu.09:02
jahshuathanks09:02
angasulealso, set the correct encoding (mine is iso 8859-1)09:02
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lascardoes anybody know where I can get azureus now that the original link for it in the repository is obsolete?09:02
apokryphosfrom their site09:02
angasulebhsx: after setting the login & pass, try accessing the XP shares again09:02
apokryphosjahshua: :)09:02
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bhsxangasule: i'm trying to access the samba shares FROM XP09:03
angasuleif a truck ran me over, I'd probably feel better, I need ice :(09:03
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angasulebhsx: oopsie, sorry then, gimme a min, it's been a month since I set it up09:03
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rdfmhi, are there any Qt/KDE maintainers on the channel?09:04
angasulebhsx: in settings, go to 'samba', check that the workgroup is the *same* than your winXP machine09:04
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angasulerdfm: for that, you should go to #kde, btw, qt and kde are different things09:05
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eXistenZapokryphos, this is the dictionary I'm talking about: http://www.longman.com/dictionaries/support/ldoce_updated_support.html#m009:05
rdfmangasule: thanks, I wanted to know why the ubuntu libqt4 packages are built without MNG support...09:06
angasulebhsx: also, set a name for your linux machine (short & easy to remember)09:06
lascaranybody?  please?09:06
angasulerdfm: no idea, try searching the kubuntu forums09:06
rdfmok09:06
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angasulelascar: go to azureus site, like apokryphos said?09:07
rdfmangasule: thanks :)09:07
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lascardidn't see his message09:07
lascarbesides, i've already done that09:07
angasulerdfm: you're welcome, sorry I wasn't much use09:07
bhsxangasule: how can i access that through sudo?09:07
angasulelascar: well, I don't know, I don't personally use azureus09:08
kakeihey anyone know how to remove the bold in the fonts in all windows?09:08
lascaroh, and while we're on the topic, how can i get java?09:09
angasulebhsx: access what? the samba config screen?09:09
kakeihttp://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8515/snapshot13jk.png watch this out Look my Fonts all looks like they were with bold09:09
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lascardon't get me wrong, i knew the answers to all these questions until the url in my modded repository for these utilities went down09:09
bhsxangasule: yes, that screen09:09
angasulelascar: there's a java virtual machine or two I can see in adept, are you looking for one in particular?09:10
lascarangasule: no, just a good, working one09:10
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angasulebhsx: you can't access System->Settings directly? you're in the command line?09:11
bhsxi can from kicker... but it doesn't sudo09:11
bhsxi can start systemsettings from cli, but the samba module isnt' there09:12
lascarbhsx: it's in Kcontrol09:12
angasulebhsx: when you start it from the settings menu the samba window is all greyed out?09:12
bhsxyeah09:13
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lascarwhoops sorry, take that back09:13
angasulebhsx: put the cursor at the bottom of the samba config window, and resize the window, make it larger (drag it down)09:13
dreumahwhich repo can i get unrar from?09:13
bhsxbut now i'm accessing it via kcontrol started throguh cli09:13
dreumahthe non free one09:13
angasulebhsx: does the 'administrator mode' button show up now at the bottom?09:13
bhsxwell, i bipassed that by loading kcontrol through Konsole09:14
bhsxi think it was the Share level access that needed ticking09:15
bhsxi'll check now09:15
angasulebhsx: I get the 'administration mode' button if I run kcontrol from konsole as well09:15
angasulebhsx: yes, probably09:15
angasulebhsx: check it's the same workgroup, share access level, then in the 'share' tab add the shares, if you haven't already09:16
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angasuledreumah: multiverse, I think09:17
dreumahits not there09:17
dreumahi can only get unrar-free09:17
dreumahthats useless to me09:17
dreumahwait09:17
dreumahi dont have multiverse09:17
angasuledreumah: after adding multiverse you clicked on 'fetch updates'?09:17
angasuledreumah: add multiverse (but not backports, unless you want backports)09:18
dreumahhow to i add this wickly i am in my repo options. using synaptics09:18
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dclindsayis there a convenient bug reporting tool for dapper?09:19
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angasuledreumah: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu (this is the URL)  distribution: breezy , components: multiverse09:19
kkathmandclindsay: bugzilla.ubuntu.com09:20
angasuledreumah: I don't use synaptic, but adding that repository should be it09:20
angasulebhsx: is it working?09:21
dreumahthank you angasule09:21
dreumahits working09:21
dclindsaykkathman: ok, thanks09:21
Hal9000i have a problem with kmail, it keeps complaining endlessly that my imap server doesnt support TLS... but actually i set SSL! and it works with thunderbird...09:21
Hal9000waht could be the problem?09:21
angasuledreumah: you're welcome09:22
dclindsayis there a debian emacs package?09:22
jahshuahello09:22
jahshuaanyone know if you can play .mp4 files with kaffien09:22
jahshuaor amoRok09:22
jahshuavideo files09:22
dclindsayor can the debian emacs tools be modified for ubuntu/kubuntu09:22
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angasuledclindsay: kubuntu has emacs09:23
kkathmandclindsay: if there is a deb, perhaps, but hard to say definitively09:23
angasule!!restricted_formats09:23
ubotuangasule: Do they come in packets of five?09:23
angasulebah, I can't remember the command09:23
kkathman!restricted09:23
ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats09:23
angasulejahshua: yes, search for 'restricted format' kubuntu in google09:23
dclindsayah, debian emacs has a very nice bug report tool09:24
angasulethanks, kkathman :)09:24
kkathmannp09:24
angasuleHal9000: I think TLS and SSL are the same thing in that context? lemme check09:24
angasuleHal9000: nope, definitely two different things, since both are given as options heh09:25
tvon they both relate to securing transmissions over the network but they're not the same thing09:26
angasuleHal9000: go to 'configure kmail', then go to 'accounts', select the server, check the properties and in the extras tab click on 'check what the server supports'09:27
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dante_Im not too sure if this is more windows specifif than kubuntu.. but! Im trying to mount a share from my windows 2003 server machine to my kubuntu box. I have installed all the smbfs packages and disabled smb signing on the 2k3 server. Yet when i mount it successfully, i get permission denied when trying to ls or do anything to the mount09:30
dante_dmesg | tail has nothing apropiate09:30
eXistenZapokryphos, in what resolution do you work09:30
apokryphoseXistenZ: 1280x102409:31
eXistenZapokryphos, I get only 60Hz in that mood =/ it's absurd09:31
eXistenZapokryphos, how much do you get09:31
apokryphossame here, but that's why my monitor goes up to09:31
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dante_Anyone have any ideas? Would using the CIFS module help at all?09:33
eXistenZapokryphos, what ps viewer do you suggest09:33
dante_Had success with that on slackware09:33
apokryphosI don't use it09:34
angasuledante_: you seem to know what you're doing, but just for the sake of it, double check that reading permission is allowed for anonymous users (or just tell the samba client to use a windows login&pass when accessing it)09:36
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dante_thanks, but i have tried that an no success =(09:37
DarkMaulping : Tm_T09:37
eXistenZapokryphos, msn is still down =/09:38
angasuledante_: you've not been able to access shares even with a set login&pass?09:38
DarkMaulhmm its back up over here09:38
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angasuleeXistenZ: what dictionary app do you use that spells out words?09:39
eXistenZangasule, Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English 4th edition updated09:39
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dante_angasule: Yup thats right09:40
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angasuleeXistenZ: hmm, is that free?09:41
eXistenZangasule, nope09:41
eXistenZangasule, but it supports linux, it's the best dictionary I've ever used.09:41
angasuleeXistenZ: ouchies, well, I'll have to depend on native speakers then, thanks :)09:41
angasuleeXistenZ: btw, what languages are you studying?09:41
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eXistenZangasule, 3 languages: Arabic, Hebrew & English.09:42
angasuledante_: maybe the guys at #samba can help?09:42
dante_Good call, I will ask =) ty09:42
angasuledante_: not blowing you off, but I'm merely a user, only have winxp here09:42
angasulegood luck09:42
angasuleeXistenZ: nice, and your native language?09:43
eXistenZangasule, the first one.09:43
pedingtoHeyo folks, I've got an issue with the maximum resolution I can set my desktop to.  The max it lists is 800x600, where I know it can do 1024x768, I tried to do the fix that worked for me in an earlier ubuntu distro. But no luck..any advice?09:43
angasuleeXistenZ: you may find www.unilang.org interesting, it has irc and voice chat as well as forum and the usual web stuff09:43
eXistenZangasule, thanks :)09:44
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angasulepedingto: while installing, did you check the box for 1024x768?09:45
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pedingtoYes, and I've also run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after install as well.  But that ends up forcing 640x480, and I have to manually edit xorg.conf to even get it to go to 800x600.09:45
andyjstormonthow do i use this thing?09:46
angasuleandyjstormont: depends on what 'this thing' is09:46
andyjstormontirc09:46
lascarangasule: what were those 2 JVMS you mentioned?09:46
angasuleandyjstormont: well, you're already using it :)09:47
andyjstormontcan you guys help me to install kde?09:47
angasulelascar: don't know, I just wrote 'java virtual machine' in adept and it showed a couple, two entries are about mono, and one is sablevm09:48
bhsxhmmm... i still keep coming back to the login prompt09:48
lascaryou mean upgrade09:48
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DewDudehas anyone gotten monkeys audio to work with bmp?09:48
bam_apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?09:48
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bam_or is that kde-desktop09:49
angasulepedingto: hmm, don't really know, try the forums or maybe a more specific channel09:49
pedingtolol - I've been hunting forums all day so far :)  Do you know of a more specific channel?09:49
angasulepedingto: #xorg ?09:49
pedingto*shakes head* Thanks, I think I've lost my mind already :)09:50
andyjstormontwhen i try to install the kde stuff using the instructions on the wiki its says cant find packages, wtf do i do know?09:50
bhsxwill 'sudo apt-get upgrade kubuntu-desktop' upgrade to 3.5?09:50
angasulepedingto: heh I hate x configuration, it's a pain :)09:50
bam_you tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?09:50
sampanandyjstormont  have you enabled all the repositories?09:50
andyjstormonthow do I do that?09:51
angasuleandyjstormont: have you added the universe and multiverse repositories?09:51
sampan!repositories09:51
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list09:51
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sampanandyjstormont  read the link ubotu posted ... or "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" (at CLI) and then remove the # from lines containing "universe" and "multiverse"09:52
lascarangasule: what about azureus? know anything about installing it?09:52
angasulesampan: careful, when I installed breezy, the lines containing multiverse also contained backports09:52
pedingtoangasule: I had the same issue under hoary ubuntu, but the manual editing of xorg.conf fixed it.  But it doesn't seem to this time around.09:52
angasulelascar: nope, sorry09:53
angasulepedingto: that's very odd, because xorg is xorg09:53
angasule!azureus09:53
ubotuwell, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo09:53
bam_anyone know where to cange the ntp server that the scripts call to sync the time09:54
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pedingtoThis is why I am confused :)09:54
sampanangasule, i think there are backports available now anyway09:54
angasulelascar: maybe that works?09:54
sampannot 100% sure though09:54
pedingtoThough I do have an odd intel video card.09:54
angasulepedingto: one of the integrated ones?09:54
lascari need new backports09:54
lascarthe old ones are, well...obsolete09:55
pedingtoYup09:55
pedingtoI'm running a dell laptop *shame*09:55
jjessenothing wrong w/ being on a dell laptop :)09:55
jjessejust depends on how old it is09:55
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pedingtoComing up for two years now ;)09:55
sampanheh, i have an old p3 1 gigahertz dell laptop that's running hoary great09:56
angasulepedingto: well, mention that to the xorg guys when you ask for help, I think the intel drivers are all open, they just bark at you if you use closed drivers like nvidia's or ati's09:56
pedingtoI tried installing and running the 855resolution but it didn't seem to fix it.09:56
angasulesampan: that's old? I still have a 286 (ok, it's in the closet and I gutted it, but we have a functional 486 dx 66)09:56
angasuledx2 66, sorry09:57
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paineshi09:57
angasulehi, paines09:57
sampanangasule  lol ... that almost belongs in a museum ;)09:57
angasulelascar: did you check the azureus link above?09:57
painesanyone tried to "optimize" and install an package with apt-build ?09:57
angasulesampan: a friend yesterday was telling me about ZX81 and powerful stuff like that, I told her she should sell that on ebay and make a nice profit09:58
lascarhmmm...09:58
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bam_zx81??10:02
angasulebam_: old stuff10:02
bam_sounds like it10:02
bam_wasnt that released in like early 80's10:03
angasulebam_: about that time, certainly before I remember10:04
bam_i think I saw one but i was only 12yrs old or so10:04
bam_its amazing though, I have a pda thats more powerful/versatile than my fors computer10:05
painesi had one10:05
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bam_*first10:05
DewDudei'm at wits end now10:05
painesand a sinvlair spectrum 48k10:05
bam_I remember those10:05
angasulebam_: there are wrist watches more powerful than my first computer10:05
bam_haha10:06
angasuleheck, I've been thinking of modifying my whole home to use automatic doors & lights10:06
bam_use a plc10:06
angasulethat was sci-fi stuff just a couple of decades ago10:06
bam_with a serial interface, make some custo software10:06
bam_big time10:07
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angasuleI'll have to write some very custom 486 software (I can't get it to run linux :/ )10:07
bam_then again someone said we would have flying cars by the year 200010:07
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BanerHello People10:07
angasuleif I could get a fan-less PSU, it'd be completely silent10:08
BanerI need some help with kubuntu10:08
andyjstormontok, im still having trouble with this.  I have to enable the kubuntu repositorys, how do I do that?10:08
angasulebam_: I fear the day flying cars become available, people can't drive in 2D, can you imagine 3D?10:08
angasuleBaner: be more specific please :)10:08
bam_lol10:08
angasule!repositories10:08
ubotuhmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list10:08
BanerPeople here's my problem, i have installed kubuntu and when there is loading a kde screen only the mouse appears and nothing happens farther10:09
angasuleandyjstormont: look at that link ubotu mentioned10:09
BanerPlz10:09
Baneri want to become linuxoud10:09
Baner;)10:09
angasulebam_: do you remembe the TV show 'beyond 2000'?10:09
angasuleBaner: what programs do that?10:09
Baneri dont know10:09
Baneri now that i have installed only10:10
Banerkubuntu and when it is loading10:10
angasuleBaner: are you on kubuntu now?10:10
Banerappears only a mouse cursor10:10
Banernope10:10
Baneri cant load it10:10
Banerx10:10
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angasuleBaner: when you use ubuntu, do you get to the login screen where you write your name and password?10:11
Banerno10:11
Baneronly the mouse10:11
Banerand nothing10:11
Banerhappens10:11
angasuleyou don't get any error messages when booting?10:12
Baneri havent seen any10:12
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Banerit is happening10:12
Banervery fast10:12
Baneri even cant exit X10:13
Baneri need to restart my pc by pressing the button10:13
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lascarangasule: and we're good to go10:14
lascarthanx10:14
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igorayebanyone had a problem whith instalation of EtherApe10:14
angasuleBaner: obviously kubuntu hasn't installed well, maybe you should search in the kubuntu forums10:15
Banerhow must i describe my problem10:15
Banerto search for10:15
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angasuleBaner: hmm, not sure, check for installation problemas related to X or KDE10:17
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dante_angasule: cifs fixed it =)10:22
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mh166hi @ all10:23
mh166I got a problem:10:23
angasuledante_: good :)10:23
angasulemh166: we all do :)10:23
mh166^^ of course10:24
mh166I'd like to change my default window manager from xfce to fluxbox10:24
mh166I already tried it by editing ~/.xsession, /etc/rc.conf and ~/.xinitrc... nothing did it...10:24
DewDudeheh10:24
mh166has anyone an idea what could work?10:24
eXistenZ!skype10:25
ubotuhmm... skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl10:25
mh166no ideas?10:27
Banerpeople10:27
Banerwhat exactly is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu10:27
angasulemh166: looking for info10:27
mh166thx :=10:28
mh166:)10:28
angasuleBaner: ubuntu is gnome-based, kubuntu is kde-based10:28
dante_kde10:28
Banerangasule i have problem with kubuntu10:28
Banermaybe10:28
Riddellrobotgeek: are you responsible?10:28
Baneri must install ubuntu10:28
Banerwith gnome10:28
DewDudeno10:28
DewDudeyou can install ubuntu with kde10:28
DewDudeit's called kubuntu10:28
Riddellmh166: it depends on what login manager you are using10:28
robotgeekRiddell: yes10:28
Riddellrobotgeek: want to be an op?10:28
BanerDewDude i have problems with kd10:28
DewDudeBaner: ok then...use ubuntu10:29
DewDudeor10:29
robotgeekRiddell: sure, i am a #ubuntu-nun member10:29
DewDudeif you have kubuntu installed... sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop10:29
Baneri cant get even in console10:29
robotgeekusually hang around with nalioth, but he isn't here all the time10:29
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Riddellrobotgeek: ok, I'll make you an op if you get all the newbies to use kubuntu :)10:29
DewDudejust black screen on boot?10:29
Banergreen with mouse10:29
Baneri cant exit from there10:29
Banerto console10:29
robotgeekRiddell: i'm looking to package some stuff for kubuntu too10:29
Banernone reaction10:29
DewDudeyou tried alt-f2 and stuff10:30
Baneryep10:30
Riddellrobotgeek: ooh, cool10:30
DewDudewow10:30
Riddellrobotgeek: #kubuntu-devel if you have queries on that or want to poke me to review10:30
mh166Riddell how can i find out, which i'm using? oO10:30
robotgeekRiddell: thanks, will definetly do :)10:30
DewDudei haven't been on ubuntu in months..i'm a bit rusty10:30
DewDudecuz i was still learning when i quit10:30
DewDudeand even then i was on PPC10:31
Baner=] 10:31
DewDudei'm having many of my own issues10:31
DewDudeissues i never used to have on my PPC10:31
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Riddellrobotgeek: you're an op, use it wisely10:32
DewDudei've given up on them for the time being10:32
robotgeekRiddell: yes, will do. CoC rules10:32
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DewDudetake a step back...smoke a bowl...do some research10:32
Riddellmh166: at the login manager just change the session to start up whichever one you want and tell it to save as default10:33
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fr0ghgmmm10:33
robotgeekbe back later :)10:33
mh166well... actually i don't have any login manager...10:33
mh166this distro came on a mag-cd10:33
mh166and was preconfigured10:33
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angasulemh166: it was kubuntu, but not the default config?10:34
mh166as soon as it boots up it starts into x with xfce as window manager and with the user "pcw" logged in by default10:34
mh166angasule seemingly, yes. It IS kubuntu (Kernel 2.6.x) but the configuration was already done by the magazine10:35
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mh166no ideas? =/10:39
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seth_k|lappymh166, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm10:42
seth_k|lappyas a guess10:42
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mh166"packed kdm isn't installed"10:42
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jahshuahello i just installed flash with adept10:43
jahshuabut it doesnt recognise the package name in console10:43
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seth_k|lappymh166, then sudo apt-get install kdm10:45
seth_k|lappyjahshua, what package did you install? flashplayer-mozilla?10:45
mh166hmm... btw: where is the diff between aptitude and apt-get? a friend of mine told me to install packages using aptitude. Is it better, the same or whats the diff?10:46
kkathmanmh166: makes really no difference10:46
mh166k10:46
kkathmansometimes, for unknown reasons, aptitude fails to locate packages in the repos..weird, but true10:46
kkathmanaptitude tends to help out if you want to uninstall things10:47
mh166ahh, kay :)10:47
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mh166hate it to install packages using this f***ing ISDN access -.-"10:48
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mh166but hey: enough time for lots of coffees xD10:48
mh166hm... 30Megs... I guess I try it later...10:49
mh166Is there also a possibility without kdm or should I come back when it's installed?10:50
jahshuaseth: i installed swf-player and macromedia and now i just installed libflash-mozplugin  i tried to run that one and it ditn recognise it either10:52
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mh166kkathman ??10:53
kkathmanyes?10:53
mh166Is there also a possibility without kdm or should I come back when it's installed?10:53
kkathmanpossibility for what?10:53
mh166changing the window manager... somehow...10:54
kkathmanmh166: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html10:54
kkathmanfollow the exact steps and yer ready to go10:54
kkathmanoops10:54
kkathmansorry10:54
mh166^^10:54
kkathmanlol got the right answer to the wrong person :)10:54
kkathmanhehe10:54
mh166already wondered what a window manager had in common with XAMPP or LAMPP10:55
kkathmanmh166: when you boot, your splash screen/login should have an option to change sessions10:55
kkathmanin the lower left of the splash10:55
jahshuacan someone tell me how to install flash please10:55
jahshua:(((10:55
jahshuai have it installed with adept but it wont run10:56
seth_k|lappyjahshua, you need flashplayer-mozilla10:56
jahshuai installed that10:56
kkathmanif you choose a session thats different than your current default, it will ask if you want to make that the default10:56
mh166as already said: there is neither a splash nor login screen or something alike... I get booted into xfce immediately after starting...10:56
jahshualibflash-mozplugin ?10:56
seth_k|lappykkathman, we've been talking about that he doesn't have a login manager ;)10:56
kkathmanmh166: hmm how did you install ubuntu then?10:56
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seth_k|lappykkathman, read up... he got a CD in a magazine10:56
arkeyhola10:56
kkathmanAHH10:56
seth_k|lappyjahshua, flashplayer-mozilla10:57
kkathmansorry..thanks seth_k|lappy :)10:57
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seth_k|lappynp kkathman, how are you today?10:57
jahshuai cant find it when i search10:57
jahshuai have unbiverse open10:57
mh166actually I didn't it's a VM from a computers magazine-cd10:57
kkathmanokie dokie seth_k|lappy thanx10:57
seth_k|lappyjahshua, it's in restricted10:57
seth_k|lappyiirc10:57
seth_k|lappy!info flashplayer-mozilla10:57
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB10:57
seth_k|lappyjahshua, multiverse10:57
kkathmanmh166: was the CD an ubuntu cd?10:58
kkathmanor some other linux?10:58
seth_k|lappykkathman, it's a Kubuntu CD10:58
kkathmanhmmm cant understand why it doesnt have a splash then10:58
seth_k|lappykkathman, heavily customized10:58
kkathmanyah I guess10:58
kkathmanhmm10:58
mh166hm.. as already said: it is a completely ready-to-run VM for M$' VMWare10:59
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mh166but uname -a tells me that it is a kubuntu distro10:59
kkathmanmh166: I have no idea on VM10:59
seth_k|lappymh166, I think you'd be safest just getting kdm and letting it set itself up10:59
mh166Hum... but I guess it shouldn't make a big difference wether kubuntu runs in a virtual machine or not11:00
mh166but okay... I'll install kdm11:00
jahshuaseth i opened multiverse and i still cant see flashplayer-mozilla11:00
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mh166but i guess I better do that on another day since now I have to learn some physics for tomorrows test paper ^^11:01
mh166good night (or what time is it with you? ;)11:01
kkathmanIm not familiar enought to know where that kdm is set11:01
kkathmanbut you might could do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:02
mh166gute nacht leute11:02
mh166.. srry11:02
mh166wrong window ^^11:02
mh166gn8 guys (or whatever the clock may show ;)11:02
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RabidGoblin!nvidia11:14
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:14
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Avenhow do you change themes?11:15
Avencan't find it anywhere11:15
jahshuacan someone help me with a restricted area question11:16
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jahshuai have all of my repositories updated and enabled universe and multiverse  and i cant sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer   it doesnt find mplayer ???11:19
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djk_!info mozilla-mplayer11:20
ubotumozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB11:20
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Aven!theme11:22
ubotuI haven't a clue, Aven11:22
Aven!themes11:22
djk_jahshua: you sure you updated after you enabled uni/multiverse? and you sure you spelt it correctly?11:23
angasule_I love coffee :D11:24
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kakeihi , how do i check my KDE version11:25
Avenwhere is the "Appearance and look"?11:25
Avencan't find it in the "System"11:25
Hobbseekakei: any kde program, help, about11:25
djk_in your system settings11:25
djk_if only you read what ubotu said..11:25
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jahshuadjk yes i did .11:26
Avenyeah, where's that at?11:26
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djk_jahshua: and an apt-cache search mplayer doesn't mention mozilla-mplayer either?11:28
Aventelling me 'go to system settings' is like telling me to go to a country I've never been in before11:28
jahshuadjk_ this is what it returned11:29
jahshuamga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)11:29
djk_Aven: click on that shiny K in the left corner on the bottom of your screen..11:29
Avenyes, there's "System"11:30
Avenbut in it, I can't see any "Appearance and look"11:30
djk_Aven: and there's 'System Settings'11:30
Avennope :\11:30
djk_yes11:30
AvenDo you want a screenshot? because there's no System Settings11:31
djk_sure11:31
angasule_Aven: in the bottom bar, next to the shiny K, there's another button that opens up a menu11:31
jahshuadjk you see what that returned?11:31
djk_jahshua: yes, but it should return more.11:32
jahshuathats all it gave back11:32
djk_pastebin your sources.list11:32
jahshuai dont know what that means :/11:32
jahshuai know ther pastebin part11:33
jahshuabut how do i see sources?11:33
djk_open /etc/apt/sources.list in kwrite11:33
djk_copy, and paste it to pastebin.com11:33
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djk_angasule_: the what..11:34
angasule_djk_: a video of Ballmer\11:35
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djk_and it's about..11:35
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chxthe KDE 3.5 Kopete is great -- but the History viewer is almost unusable11:36
angasule_djk_: it's about ballmer shouting like a maniac11:36
djk_angasule_: he's doing that in every video i've seen of him..11:37
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dclindsayi would, too11:37
dclindsayif i were him11:37
seth_k|lappychx, I agree. The history is disgusting11:37
seth_k|lappychx, write us a new one :)11:37
kakeihey guys i just reboot and when it start KDE show this error http://pastebin.com/472357 , and i go to the Console (nographix) so i 'startx' and start Gnome11:38
angasule_o_O he's a sad joke11:38
dclindsayhe's not alone in that11:38
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dclindsayfucking attorney general11:38
dclindsayexcuse me11:38
angasule_who's the attorney general these days?11:38
angasule_I'm assuming you're from the US?11:39
dclindsayattorney general who i would really like to say 'kiss my ass' to11:39
dclindsayyes11:39
dclindsaysan diego11:39
seth_k|lappydclindsay, language please11:39
dclindsayyes, sorry, thank you11:39
seth_k|lappynp11:39
seth_k|lappyjust reminding :)11:39
AgeLesSi should know11:40
AgeLesSi read his name not this morning11:40
AgeLesSoh well11:40
dclindsayit's all about the ideological 'greater struggle' that excuses a law enforcement official from doing anything about a crime that is going on right in front of his face11:40
angasule_alberto gonzales?11:40
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dclindsayyeah, Gonzalez, Mr. Innocent11:41
AgeLesSi'm lost?11:42
AgeLesSis he the guy on death row?11:42
AgeLesSor am I confused11:42
dclindsaylaff, no11:42
dclindsayhe's the US AG11:42
AgeLesSoh, lol11:42
dclindsayi think that's one thing that Ballmer is a maniac about11:42
dclindsayi mean11:43
AgeLesSI was thinking of the convicted serial killer in california who is up for pardon11:43
AgeLesScuz he has "reformed"11:43
dclindsaywho's that?11:43
dclindsayTooky Williams?11:43
AgeLesSlol, and dthose 2 names are nothing alike11:43
AgeLesSthank you11:43
dclindsayhe was executed last week11:43
dclindsaylethal injection11:43
kakeihey guys i just reboot and when it start KDE show this error http://pastebin.com/472357 , and i go to the Console (nographix) so i 'startx' and start Gnome11:43
AgeLesS...must get on the cu rrent events bandwagon11:44
dclindsayapparently the deciding factor to the Gov. was that he refused to apologize for the killing11:44
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AgeLesSyou got a coredump out of startx?11:44
dclindsayhe wasnt really a serial killer though, that's a false impression11:44
AgeLesShe was a mob boss or something11:45
dclindsayhe was a gang leader11:45
dclindsayhelp form the Crips11:45
dclindsayever see the movie 'Colors'?11:45
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AgeLesSkakei, I'm very confused, you said that starx + Gnome gave you a coredump with QT classes in it?11:45
AgeLesSno, I don't htink so11:45
dclindsayanyways11:45
kakeiAgeLess11:46
angasule_AgeLesS: no, kde is giving him that error11:46
kakeii start my computer normal11:46
kakeiso when its going to open KDE it show me that error11:46
kakeiand send me to a console and i type' startx' and start gnome11:46
AgeLesSbut its a core dump, not an x11 log11:46
kakeiyes11:47
dclindsayso anyways, after a few fits and starts, dist-upgrade to dapper is marinally doable11:47
dclindsaymarginally doable, rather11:47
AgeLesSperhaps the Xorg error log would be more useful11:48
chxseth_k|lappy: sure. A browser based one will do?11:48
chxseth_k|lappy: I am a PHP guy alas not a C one11:48
seth_k|lappychx, me too. Methinks the important thing is to have the logs in a nice XML format11:48
seth_k|lappythat we can then parse any way we want11:48
chxseth_k|lappy: sure. I think I will my own parser in PHP and then release it11:49
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kakeiwhere can i get the Xorg Log ? AgeLesS11:49
AgeLesSshoudl be in /var/log/11:49
seth_k|lappychx, sounds great. I see that the logs are already XML, pretty nice11:49
chxanother problem. I can't get KATE to not open more than one copy.11:49
chxpreviously, kate loaded a doc into a new tab11:50
chxnow it loads a whole new kate :(11:50
AgeLesSwhoa, kate has tabs, since when?11:50
manveru!info kate-plugins11:51
ubotukate-plugins: (plugins for Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 458 kB, Installed size: 3808 kB11:51
manverusince some years :)11:51
AgeLesSi know the 3.5 version has the nifty sidebar11:51
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kakeihey guys i get an error called 'kdmgreet' Anyone have idea of how to solve it?12:02
_nano_kakei: reinstall kdm?12:03

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