[12:10] <stashly> what is the quickest way to add repos?
[12:11] <tvon> manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list perhaps?
[12:11] <stashly> thats long
[12:11] <stashly> quickert han that
[12:11] <sampan> !easysource
[12:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:12] <tvon> fancy
[12:12] <sampan> ^^^ can always let ubuntu generate a custom sources.list for you
[12:17] <Lacerta> kakei: are you still there?
[12:18] <kakei> yes
[12:18] <Lacerta> i did that thing to my wlan0 and it's now enabled in the system settings :))
[12:19] <kakei> you are sharing internet Now?
[12:19] <Lacerta> umm.. no i need to do some trick in the winXP
[12:19] <Lacerta> but i've never been so far :)
[12:19] <kakei> ahaha
[12:19] <kakei> :D
[12:21] <Lacerta> the winXP automatic network configuration probably won't work
[12:22] <Lacerta> i've never done this manually in windows actually
[12:27] <Coolio10> hi
[12:42] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I'm looking for an automount in KDE
[12:42] <triode> hello, how can I change the default application associated with wav files? and, what's a good JACK enabled really simple wav player?
[12:42] <crimsun> alsaplayer?
[12:43] <LacertaIII> uuh.. the hell i'm doing?
[12:43] <kakei> LacertaIII no u have Internet?
[12:44] <LacertaIII> uh.. no?
[12:44] <kakei> i mean
[12:44] <kakei> are u sharing internet now?
[12:44] <LacertaIII> i'm trying
[12:45] <kakei> whats wrong?
[12:45] <LacertaIII> XP is just...
[12:45] <triode> how can I change the default application associated with wav files?
[12:45] <kakei> is just..?
[12:45] <LacertaIII> nothing
[12:45] <LacertaIII> i suck
[12:45] <triode> crimsun: thanks! that's what I was looking for
[12:45] <triode> :)
[12:46] <kakei> Lacerta o.o
[12:46] <LacertaIII> i can't use xp.. how the hell do i add a gateway?
[12:47] <LacertaIII> i added a netwirk bridge, is it the same thing?
[12:47] <kakei> in
[12:47] <kakei> settings
[12:47] <stashly> amarok wont play mp3s
[12:47] <stashly> would should i do
[12:47] <kakei> in settings u will see something like
[12:47] <NCLife> hi
[12:47] <kakei> stashly
[12:47] <NCLife> any ipod gurus?
[12:47] <kakei> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:47] <kakei> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[12:47] <kakei> sudo aptitude install libmad0
[12:47] <kakei> gst-register-0.8
[12:48] <kakei> and then go to the engine/motor of amaroK and choose output plugin alsaink or something what sound
[12:48] <kakei> stashly u got it?
[12:48] <stashly> yeah thank youi. i ll try it
[12:48] <stashly> i am installing linux for the first time
[12:49] <kakei> :)
[12:49] <stashly> liking the view
[12:49] <kakei> stashly KDE owns
[12:49] <NCLife> i get a error message when i try to read the ipods itunes_DB on gtkpod
[12:50] <kakei> NCLife which error
[12:50] <NCLife> kakei, '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[12:50] <NCLife> thats the error message
[12:51] <stashly> oh my its so lovely
[12:51] <kakei> are u sure u have it mounted?
[12:51] <kakei> stashly Done :)?
[12:51] <stashly> yeah
[12:51] <kakei> wohooooo
[12:51] <stashly> musik is playin nice and loud now
[12:51] <NCLife> mmh.. well, it is on my desktop and i can access it as a hd..
[12:51] <kakei> NCLife hmmmmmmmm
[12:52] <kakei> u have all ur ata in iTunesDB?
[12:52] <fdelacruz> Gud Day guys! advance Holiday
[12:52] <NCLife> that im not sure
[12:52] <kakei> trie just
[12:52] <kakei>  /media/ipod
[12:52] <x-ray> pls ...can anyone help me ?
[12:52] <kakei> x-ray whats ur problem
[12:53] <NCLife> kakei, where should i try /media/ipod
[12:53] <x-ray> how i can manage users (root) in shell ? im beginner in linux :-[
[12:53] <kakei> NCLife
[12:53] <kakei> put it on konqueror
[12:53] <kakei> on the URL
[12:53] <kakei> x-ray sudo su
[12:54] <kakei> x-ray http://ubuntuguide.org/ this will be helpful for u
[12:55] <x-ray> thy :-)
[12:55] <NCLife> kakei, No Items, No Files, No Folders ..
[12:55] <NCLife> thats what it says
[12:55] <tvon> 'sudo -s' gets you a root shell
[12:55] <kakei> NClife
[12:55] <kakei> NCLife and /media/ipod/iPod_Control ?
[12:56] <x-ray> i go to root's shell by "su root"
[12:56] <kakei> NCLife u can try with console using cd to join thje folder and ls to watch the content
[12:56] <tvon> x-ray: that will only work if you gave root a password
[12:56] <stashly> i am having trouble working my ipod too
[12:56] <stashly> cant get it to come up, nor do i have a program for it
[12:56] <x-ray> i gave it
[12:57] <NCLife> kakei, yes.. i browsed to /media/ipod and there is all my ipod, including iPod_Control and all
[12:57] <NCLife> but typing /media/ipod/iPod_Control on konqueror didnt show up nothing O.O
[12:57] <kakei> try with the next folder
[12:57] <kakei> or go back
[12:57] <kakei> and watch ipod folders
[12:58] <NCLife> okays
[12:58] <x-ray> but if i can change anythink in KDE > system settings > network (users) etc.. in "Administration mode" i give true pass..but it doesn't work :(
[12:59] <x-ray> it is still in normal view mode (no admin.)
[12:59] <NCLife> i browsed with the console, im in /media/ipod/iPod_Control now.. what should i do now?
[12:59] <tvon> x-ray: use your password there, not the one you gave root
[01:00] <tvon> x-ray: there is no reason to have a root password in kubuntu
[01:00] <x-ray> yes..i have all pass same ..
[01:00] <tvon> it really just makes things confusing
[01:00] <NCLife> kakei, typing ls does not make nothing
[01:01] <x-ray> but i was changing something in users & groups with root, and since then it doesn't work :((
[01:02] <NCLife> kakei, the first time i entered iPod_Control browsing with the file browser there were documents inside, no i reentered iPod_Control and nothing is there O.O
[01:02] <kakei> weird
[01:02] <kakei> refresh it
[01:02] <NCLife> nothing :(
[01:03] <x-ray> ok, then, how i can destroy password in root account ?
[01:03] <x-ray> in shell ?
[01:03] <x-ray> plsplspls :-))
[01:03] <x-ray> :-*
[01:04] <fdelacruz> guys any effective free antivirus aside from avg, bitdefender, avast and clamwin?
[01:05] <NCLife> well, and another question.. after i unmount it i still have the "do not disconnect" message.. any idea how can i eject it totally? ive tried "eject /dev/sda2" and it says "unable to open /dev/sda2" kakeei, nothing is working :(
[01:05] <NCLife> :P
[01:06] <kakei> NCLife
[01:06] <x-ray> pls NClife .. u are my sole chance
[01:06] <kakei> hmmmm
[01:06] <kakei> i don't know lol
[01:08] <NCLife> heh >_<
[01:08] <NCLife> dang
[01:09] <NCLife> x-ray, sorry.. im really noob at kubuntu, i cant help you with nothing
[01:09] <x-ray> soorry..
[01:09] <x-ray> i meda it now with Kuser..
[01:09] <x-ray> made
[01:10] <sampan> x-ray  searching the ubuntu forums yields (to remove a root pass): sudo passwd -l root
[01:10] <sampan> never done it myself, so can't vouch from first-hand experience though
[01:11] <x-ray> oukey
[01:14] <x-ray> last q. .. when am i in root group, can i make anything ? ( write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. etc.. ?)???? and when the root user is blocked .. :-)
[01:16] <seth_k|lappy> x-ray, you don't need to be root to write to system files. Just use sudo: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or whatever
[01:17] <sampan> x-ray, yes, root can do anything.  but in ubuntu/kubuntu they use "sudo" which gives you the power of root, without having to enable a root account at all
[01:17] <x-ray> ou..thy all :-)
[01:17] <seth_k|lappy> This is safer because it means that a potential hacker has to guess your username, as WELL as your password. Plus it encourages you not to run for an extended length of time using a root account
[01:18] <x-ray> :-O
[01:18] <sampan> and probably less hassle too -- you're less likely to forget your user pass than a root pass (if you don't log into it for a while)
[01:19] <x-ray> ok . i disable root account .. and all will do with sudo vi /etc/...
[01:19] <seth_k|lappy> it takes some getting used to if you're used to root / non-root, but it's really the better way
[01:19] <seth_k|lappy> :)
[01:20] <_particle> hey
[01:20] <_particle> eh, wrong name
[01:20] <Zen> there we go
[01:21] <x-ray> ok .. that was all nice.. but i still cannot edit  all in Administration mode (in KDE)..i write my pass, but it do nothing
[01:22] <sampan> x-ray, is it a fresh breezy install?
[01:22] <seth_k|lappy> x-ray, you will need to update to KDE 3.5
[01:22] <x-ray> yes...but i made something in User & groups ... :(
[01:22] <x-ray> i have kde 3.5 afaik
[01:22] <seth_k|lappy> hmm
[01:23] <sampan> x-ray, there was an administrator bug in the breezy cd release -- updates fixed it
[01:23] <x-ray> ok :-)
[01:23] <x-ray> ooooooooooooohhh..
[01:23] <x-ray> i have KDE 3.4.3 :-!
[01:23] <x-ray> thy vm !!
[01:24] <seth_k|lappy> !kde3.5
[01:24] <ubotu> somebody said kde3.5 was http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:24] <sampan> well i didn't have to upgrade to 3.5 to fix that bug
[01:24] <seth_k|lappy> sampan, yeah, there's a breezy-updates for it too
[01:24] <seth_k|lappy> but might as well do 3.5 while you're at it :)
[01:25] <sampan> i dunno -- haven't been paying much attention last few days, but prior to that seemed like a lot of people had 'issues' with 3.5
[01:25] <NCLife> how do i get access to root on a terminal? :p
[01:25] <x-ray> sudo ? :-)
[01:25] <sampan> personally, i take a more conservative approach i guess -- if the community in #debian was more friendly i might have switched, since i think a 6 month release schedule by its very nature promotes "upgraditis"
[01:26] <NCLife> thanks x-ray
[01:27] <x-ray> :-))
[01:27] <x-ray> how i install the KDE 3.5 ?? .. i did all in page kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:28] <x-ray> package manager ? :-)
[01:29] <pussfeller> add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to yer sources
[01:29] <seth_k|lappy> if you did everything in kde-35.php, then just use Adept Updater, sure :)
[01:30] <x-ray> upgrading :--)))) thy alllllllllllllllll !!!!!!!!!! :-)
[01:32] <x-ray> how i can improve my refresh rate ? .. i wrote to xorg.conf HorizSync of my monitor, and refresh rate, but max it gives 85Hz, but i used in M$ 100Hz :((
[01:32] <pussfeller> any one using dapper? is it working ok?
[01:32] <seth_k|lappy> pussfeller, working fine here on two computers
[01:32] <seth_k|lappy> MUCH faster
[01:32] <pussfeller> oh yeah
[01:33] <x-ray> how i can improve my refresh rate ? .. i wrote to xorg.conf HorizSync of my monitor, and refresh rate, but max it gives 85Hz, but i used in M$ 100Hz :((
[01:38] <x-ray> am i ok ?
[01:38] <x-ray> connection problem :(
[01:44] <Logicmax> anyone here know how to get the bootloader to work, i'm trying grub, but the gnu doesnm
[01:44] <Logicmax> doesn't apear
[01:49] <Spandexx> hi guy quick question:  why I install ubuntu = no problem and Kubuntu BIG NIC problem?
[01:51] <Spandexx> ...
[01:52] <stisev> hi all
[01:52] <Spandexx> guess nobody know
[01:52] <Spandexx> hummm nobody knows about NIC problems on Kubuntu Breezy
[01:53] <Spandexx> ^
[01:53] <Spandexx> ?
[01:53] <Snake__> what kind of nic
[01:53] <Spandexx> Thinkpad R51
[01:53] <Snake__> hmmm wired or wireless?
[01:53] <Spandexx> works well with Ubuntu
[01:53] <Spandexx> both!
[01:53] <Snake__> Oh
[01:53] <Spandexx> doesn,t work on Kubuntu...
[01:54] <Spandexx> I like more KDE ;)
[01:54] <Snake__> Perhaps you missed a packet on install....try reinstalling kubuntu/
[01:54] <Snake__> Because ubuntu and kubuntu are the same...just diffrent defualt GUIs
[01:54] <Spandexx> done that and same problem
[01:55] <Snake__> Hell you could install gnome onto kubuntu if you wanted...
[01:55] <Spandexx> I know snake....on the install they use diff drivers
[01:55] <Snake__> Perhaps install ubuntu, and change to kde??
[01:55] <Spandexx> would it create problems^] 
[01:55] <Snake__> Dunno never done it :-P
[01:55] <Spandexx> hehheehe
[01:56] <Spandexx> I am new to Linux but found this bizarre
[01:56] <Snake__> umm i wish there was a vet in here
[01:56] <Snake__> wheres hobbsee when you need her
[01:56] <stisev> i'm having problems with GRUB bootloader
[01:56] <stisev> I'm doing a triple boot
[01:57] <stisev> ( GRUB)   - Windows XP  (main) - Kubuntu - OSX
[01:57] <stisev> (I have licenses to all)
[01:57] <stisev> the only problem is, is that I can't seem to set the oSX partition as active
[01:57] <stisev> I've tried with FDisk
[01:57] <stisev> and inside windows, but it doesn't work
[01:57] <Snake__> stisev: sorry im not sure
[01:57] <Snake__> We need a guru in here
[01:57] <Snake__> lol
[01:57] <artnay> KDE users, care to take a look at this? "Package not available" - it installed properly (at least it seems so) by forcing
[01:58] <artnay> could you confirm before filing a bug?
[01:58] <stisev> lol
[02:02] <tvon> I like how you felt the need to mention that you have licenses ;)
[02:02] <dell500> stisev, do ytou get the splash screen?
[02:03] <dell500> for grub
[02:03] <stisev> back
[02:03] <stisev> yes
[02:06] <DewDude> ok, i was a kubuntu user on PPC..but now i'm going to x86..i asked this in ubuntu, but, so much activity, it probably got ignored...but will ubuntu auto-detect and auto-confiugure NTFS
[02:06] <DewDude> or have i got to add a bunch of stuff
[02:07] <bimberi> DewDude: yes it should , but otherwise there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:07] <Fri13> atleast ubuntu and kubuntu has done those for me.
[02:07] <Fri13> both did add NTFS partitions to my desktop
[02:08] <Jochen> Hey boys...
[02:08] <Jochen> I need your help!
[02:08] <Jochen> How do I install a debian package on kubuntu?
[02:08] <DewDude> alrighty
[02:08] <DewDude> cuz i've been XP on this box for a while
[02:09] <DewDude> and i use NTFS because i don't feel like waking up to corrupted FAT and losing everything
[02:09] <DewDude> i'm planning on having a 20GB fat32 partition for temp storage as i'm going to be dual-booting
[02:09] <DewDude> so...great
[02:09] <Jochen> Nobody knows the answer?!
[02:09] <DewDude> ummm
[02:09] <bimberi> DewDude: k, i guess you know that ntfs access is read-only
[02:09] <DewDude> yeah
[02:09] <bimberi> k :)
[02:10] <DewDude> which is why i was windows on this box
[02:10] <andreas_> it's read-only unless you're a very very brave person
[02:10] <DewDude> i ran kubuntu quite well on my imac
[02:10] <DewDude> hahaha
[02:10] <DewDude> yeah
[02:10] <DewDude> it's been that way for years
[02:10] <bimberi> andreas_: well yes :)
[02:10] <DewDude> which is why i've got a 20 gig FAT32 partition
[02:10] <bimberi> Jochen: what's the package?
[02:10] <andreas_> yeah I got a similar setup
[02:10] <DewDude> so if i download stuff in linux..i can still get it over to the main repository on the 120gig
[02:11] <DewDude> what i'd like to do is find a journled file system that works with xp and linux
[02:11] <bimberi> Jochen: you can, by installing using dpkg and making sure as many dependencies as possible come from ubuntu repositories
[02:12] <DewDude> this is going to be fun..i haven't used ubuntu since october
[02:12] <DewDude> before octobrt
[02:12] <DewDude> october
[02:13] <BlueEagle> dewdude: ext3 works (not very well but it works) in WinXP.
[02:13] <DewDude> well
[02:13] <DewDude> that's the thing, i want something that works
[02:13] <DewDude> i've got 115 gigs of music
[02:13] <DewDude> i had to restore from backups once
[02:13] <DewDude> i really don't want to again
[02:13] <BlueEagle> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[02:13] <DewDude> i tried the ext3 in XP before
[02:13] <DewDude> and it worked, but was really slow
[02:13] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Set up an old machine and share it over nfs or smb.
[02:14] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Yes, it is slow.
[02:14] <DewDude> BlueEagle: well, i don't NEED to write to the NTFS partition
[02:14] <DewDude> i thought of that already
[02:14] <BlueEagle> dewdude: A machine on 100MBit lan shared with SMB would probably be just as fast or even faster.
[02:14] <DewDude> umm
[02:14] <DewDude> yes
[02:14] <DewDude> i know
[02:14] <DewDude> but
[02:14] <DewDude> i said
[02:14] <BlueEagle> but what?
[02:14] <DewDude> i solved that problem
[02:14] <DewDude> i don't need direct write access
[02:14] <bimberi> BlueEagle: there's also http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/
[02:14] <DewDude> in the FUTURE i might
[02:14] <DewDude> but
[02:14] <DewDude> right now, no
[02:15] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Well ok then. Still why haven't you set up a file server yet? :p
[02:15] <DewDude> because
[02:15] <DewDude> the access times are shit
[02:15] <DewDude> i tried that before
[02:15] <DewDude> 100MBit doesn't mean 100mBit
[02:16] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Not if you use a 10MBit hub it doesn't. :)
[02:16] <DewDude> i'm using a 100mbit switch
[02:16] <DewDude> it's mostly a limitation of my systems
[02:17] <BlueEagle> I see.
[02:17] <DewDude> and most systems
[02:17] <DewDude> i've NEVER seen two LAN pc's hit more than a meg/sec sustained transfer
[02:17] <DewDude> i'm dealing with a lot of audio data..at least in the XP world
[02:17] <DewDude> but
[02:17] <DewDude> i'd rather not have my music on the network
[02:18] <DewDude> plus..i can't afford to build a second PC
[02:18] <DewDude> i've got this box..and an imac
[02:18] <DewDude> ok, cigarette break while the ISO burns
[02:32] <jahshua> what is that
[02:32] <jahshua> its in my ps x
[02:34] <DewDude> alrighty, ISO burned
[02:37] <Johnson> hi i need some help
[02:38] <Johnson> +i
[02:46] <Johnson> hi
[02:46] <Johnson> anyone here?
[02:46] <Johnson> i need some help?
[02:48] <emptystapler> Two things: one - when I lock my workstation with "Lock Session", I can't log back in. my password doesn't work, and it just says "Unlock failed", forcing me to ctrl+alt+backspace the x server (shouldn't that be disabled during a lock!?)
[02:48] <emptystapler> two - for some reason, kde isn't saving my logitech mouse settings
[02:49] <emptystapler> all of this with 5.10
[02:50] <emptystapler> and KDE 3.5
[02:52] <Riddell> emptystapler: the lock session is a known problem, I've no idea what causes it, if you could send me your ~/.kde that would be useful
[02:52] <Riddell> jriddell@ubuntu.com
[02:53] <emptystapler> sure.
[02:53] <emptystapler> with the logitech settings, I meant it's not saving them between sessions
[02:56] <emptystapler> Riddell: when you say send you ~/.kde, do you need a specific file, or a zip of the entire thing?
[03:01] <raphink> emptystapler: I think he meant a tarball of the whole thing
[03:02] <kakei> any one pls help me i dont know why the load of my CPU everytime is 100%
[03:03] <emptystapler> tarball it is!
[03:03] <emptystapler> hm, Ark throws an error tarring the directory
[03:04] <raphink> kakei: did you launch ksysguard to check what app is eating the memory?
[03:04] <emptystapler> unfortunately it doesn't say what exactly went wrong
[03:04] <raphink> hmmm
[03:04] <raphink> then just do it in a terminal ;)
[03:05] <raphink> tar -cvzf yourtarball.tar.gz yourfoldersource
[03:05] <emptystapler> okay, okay :)
[03:06] <emptystapler> hmmm, same error
[03:06] <raphink> what does it say?
[03:06] <emptystapler> ah. this time i can see enough console output to find the problem
[03:06] <emptystapler> just a lousy permissions problem trying to archive kate's configs
[03:06] <raphink> hmm
[03:06] <raphink> not readable ?
[03:06] <raphink> o_O
[03:07] <kakei> raphink : yes
[03:07] <raphink> kakei: and?
[03:07] <emptystapler> more than just that, too
[03:07] <kakei> im killing
[03:07] <raphink> kakei: don't kill too much ;)
[03:07] <emptystapler> ./home/dan/.kde/share/config/katesyntaxhighlightingrc
[03:07] <raphink> emptystapler: what is the ls -l output on this file ?
[03:07] <Johnson_>   HI I NEED HELP
[03:08] <Johnson_> whoops
[03:08] <raphink> don't shout Johnson_ i'm almost asleep
[03:08] <emptystapler> -rw-------  1 root root
[03:08] <raphink> emptystapler: that's indeed a problem
[03:08] <Johnson_> has any one used the theme mech atall?
[03:08] <raphink> let me check here
[03:08] <emptystapler> hehehe
[03:08] <emptystapler> i wonder if this stems from me accidentally sudo'ing kate?
[03:08] <raphink> -rw-------  1 raphink raphink 28433 2005-12-05 19:14 /home/raphink/.kde/share/config/katesyntaxhighlightingrc
[03:08] <emptystapler> (before i learned about kdesu)
[03:08] <raphink> emptystapler: type
[03:09] <pussfeller> is there anything funky i need compile kernel modules, i have linux-headers, build essentials
[03:09] <raphink> sudo chown dan:dan -rw-------  1 raphink raphink 28433 2005-12-05 19:14 /home/dan/.kde/share/config/katesyntaxhighlightingrc
[03:09] <pussfeller> and the source
[03:09] <raphink> that'll set your problem
[03:09] <LacertaII> how can i make the system to load my wlan driver's modules at boot time?
[03:09] <emptystapler> raphink: it was more thanjust that one file
[03:09] <emptystapler> raphink: other kate files, as well
[03:10] <raphink> emptystapler: then do it on the entire .kde ;)
[03:10] <emptystapler> good idea
[03:10] <raphink> sudo chown -r dan:dan ~/.kde
[03:10] <raphink> all these files should be belong to you anyway ;)
[03:10] <seth_k|lappy> no, raphink, you need -R
[03:10] <emptystapler> -R
[03:10] <emptystapler> ;)
[03:10] <emptystapler> i am not TOTALLY clueless! ha!
[03:10] <raphink> seth_k|lappy: right, thanks :)
[03:10] <Johnson_> dose any one know how to install a KDE theme?
[03:10] <seth_k|lappy> hehe
[03:11] <raphink> Johnson_: go to kcontrol or systemsettings
[03:11] <raphink> then apperance -> themes
[03:11] <raphink> and click install a new theme
[03:11] <emptystapler> bingo
[03:11] <raphink> and select the archive of the theme you downloaded ;)
[03:11] <raphink> unless you want the manual way, using a console :)
[03:12] <raphink> Johnson_: the first thing being to check if your theme has not been packaged already
[03:12] <raphink> so that using apt-get might install it
[03:12] <emptystapler> I STILL can't find out how to sort Kopete contacts alphabetically. nobody in #kde is responding, either
[03:12] <raphink> there are a few packaged themese
[03:12] <raphink> s/themese/themes/
[03:13] <raphink> hmm
[03:13] <raphink> they are sorted alphabetically by default, _inside_ each group
[03:13] <emptystapler> untrue!
[03:14] <Johnson_> this theme still isnt working
[03:14] <raphink> hmm well it has always been true on my kopete at least emptystapler
[03:14] <emptystapler> mine are currently sorted as such: c, C, L, P, T, Z, a, a, f, F, F, K, m, P, q, R, r
[03:14] <raphink> on all machines i've used
[03:14] <raphink> that's interesting
[03:14] <raphink> my groups are sorted alphabetically
[03:14] <raphink> and inside each gruop
[03:14] <emptystapler> more annoying than interesting!
[03:14] <raphink> contacts are sorted alphabetically aswell
[03:15] <raphink> oh well I wouldnt min
[03:15] <raphink> mind
[03:15] <Johnson_> even though i added it
[03:15] <emptystapler> well, the worst thing is they mix up every time i load it
[03:15] <Johnson_> strange
[03:15] <raphink> Johnson_: are you sure this theme works with your kde verison?
[03:15] <seth_k|lappy> hiya robotgeek :)
[03:15] <raphink> s/verison/version/
[03:15] <robotgeek> hey seth_k|lappy
[03:15] <raphink> hi robotgeek
[03:16] <emptystapler> raphink: curious... my offline users group is sorted properly
[03:16] <emptystapler> just not ONLINE users
[03:16] <raphink> hmmm
[03:16] <raphink> weird
[03:16] <raphink> what version of kopete ?
[03:16] <jahshua> help! help!
[03:16] <jahshua> my adept just crashed
[03:16] <jahshua> when i clicked on install for bittorrent
[03:16] <raphink> hmm that happens
[03:16] <Johnson_> how do find out wot version i havce?
[03:16] <robotgeek> hey raphink
[03:16] <raphink> jahshua: doesnt sound like someone just died
[03:17] <jahshua> who said anything about dying
[03:17] <raphink> Johnson_: Help -> About KDE
[03:17] <raphink> in any KDE program
[03:17] <raphink> jahshua: well you sound like this an urgency ;)
[03:17] <emptystapler> is there some all emcompassing development package i can install so i'lla ctually have a compiler?
[03:17] <raphink> one can live without adept and be (very) happy ;)
[03:18] <raphink> emptystapler: build-essential ?
[03:18] <jahshua> raphink im new on kubuntu and i thought maybe that was serious, guess its not :p
[03:18] <raphink> jahshua: well adept is just a gui to apt-get
[03:18] <raphink> jahshua: as long as it's not apt-get being screwed up
[03:19] <raphink> I don't consider it's a big issue
[03:19] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[03:19] <emptystapler> gah, now adept isn't working!
[03:19] <emptystapler> as in, it doesn't load
[03:19] <Johnson_> yeh i got the tight version for it
[03:19] <Knowerrors> Anybody using Superkaramba 0.37?
[03:19] <Hobbsee> hi raphink!
[03:19] <Johnson_> right
[03:19] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: think so, yes
[03:19] <Knowerrors> Heyhey Hobbsee
[03:20] <Hobbsee> hey Knowerrors
[03:20] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: Im getting poor performance with SuperKaramba, my cpu spikes up and down rapidly on some themes...
[03:20] <seth_k|lappy> hiya Hobbsee, jonathan wanted to know if you still had that new kmymoney2 deb
[03:20] <emptystapler> hurray for build-essential!
[03:20] <seth_k|lappy> for breezy
[03:20] <raphink> Knowerrors: yeah
[03:21] <seth_k|lappy> Knowerrors, I am as well... but I get like 5% CPU use on idle. What themes?
[03:21] <raphink> superkaramba is the best way to get your proc busy
[03:21] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: the deb of it?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> let me go have a look...
[03:21] <emptystapler> lol
[03:21] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, yes'm
[03:21] <Johnson_> has anyone ever used the theme mech-tex 500
[03:21] <emptystapler> Adept only seems to load like every other time I run it
[03:22] <Knowerrors> seth_k|lappy: : Kuartet
[03:22] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: indeed, i do have the one for breezy
[03:22] <Knowerrors> Im using the deb from the kde 3.5 repo
[03:22] <neoncode> Hey, how do I get this command to work?
[03:22] <neoncode> ln -s /media/0 GB Disk (hdb1)/WINDOWS/system32/*.dll
[03:22] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, Riddell said people on the mailing list were pretty interested in having a backport
[03:22] <Knowerrors> of Superkaramba .37
[03:22] <Johnson_> can ou get animated login creens?
[03:23] <Johnson_> screens
[03:23] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: ah, ok, so where should i send it to, and what do i send?  just the .deb?
[03:23] <Johnson_> i think i have seen it before
[03:23] <Johnson_> but im not sure
[03:23] <raphink> neoncode: use \ before spaces in names
[03:23] <Knowerrors> Dange slow dialup :(
[03:23] <Knowerrors> did I missanything?
[03:23] <raphink> so /media/0\ GB\ Disk\ (hdb1)/WINDOWS/system32/*.dll
[03:23] <seth_k|lappy> Knowerrors, nope
[03:24] <raphink> or change your fstab to mount on smarter dirs ;)
[03:24] <raphink> neoncode: you might also need a second argument for ln -s imo ;)
[03:25] <neoncode> raphink: I think I got it to work
[03:25] <raphink> good
[03:25] <neoncode> raphink: Thanks though!
[03:25] <Knowerrors> Kuartet is really cool, turns your desktop into a combo control center/K menu/system monitor, similar to Symphony/Mezzo
[03:25] <Knowerrors> though it just came out, so performance is a little wack
[03:26] <dell500> anyone here know how to install the new gtkpod from the source?
[03:27] <seth_k|lappy> dell500, what version? I could backport for you if you like?
[03:28] <Johnson_> dose any one here use super karamba?
[03:28] <seth_k|lappy> Johnson_, I do, Hobbsee does, Knowerrors does
[03:28] <seth_k|lappy> what's up?
[03:29] <seth_k|lappy> dell500, give me a bit to package 0.99 for dapper, and then I'll backport it for you :)
[03:29] <Johnson_> well i just found areally cool theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27046 this one
[03:30] <Johnson_> and i installed it ok and i think iv installed the drivers but my desktop hasnt got thoes nice red monitor bits in stating th hd temo and cpu tmep ect.
[03:30] <raphink> de gustibus et coloribus non discutandum
[03:30] <Snake__> Hey Hobbsee's here
[03:30] <Snake__> We need you erliar (sp?)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:31] <Hobbsee> yeah, i am, sorta
[03:31] <Snake__> o.0
[03:31] <Snake__> sorta?
[03:31] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: you probably don't have the hardware monitor or sensor packages it needs
[03:31] <Johnson_> i gott he sesor packages
[03:31] <Johnson_> well it said so on synaptic
[03:32] <Hobbsee> well, trying to find somewhere to upload, and reading multiple windows
[03:32] <Johnson_> but not sure about the hardware monitor?
[03:32] <Johnson_> wot do you mean by that?
[03:32] <Snake__> Hobbsee: what do you need to upload
[03:32] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: "lm-sensors and hddtemp" you have those?
[03:32] <Johnson_> yep
[03:32] <Hobbsee> kmymoney2
[03:32] <Snake__> wtf?
[03:32] <Snake__> How big is it?
[03:33] <Snake__> I could host it, but the download speed will only be 30kbps
[03:33] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: can you get that info from another non superkaramba linux program? Maybe your hardware isn't supported
[03:33] <Knowerrors> like try Ksensors, see if that works
[03:34] <Johnson_> mabey im on my laptop
[03:35] <Hobbsee> Snake__: should be fine
[03:35] <Snake__> Alright do you have aim, or MSN or yahoo or anything>
[03:35] <Knowerrors> My favorite new SuperKaramba theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=32541
[03:35] <mpma> I'm researching how to increase the font size in various gtk apps, (like the gaim window I'm currently logged into #kubuntu through) and when I goto settings > appearance & themes > GTK fonts and themes, it starts to load but ends up stalling and nothing comes up... what's wrong??
[03:35] <dewdude> can someone toss me that link about ubuntu and nfs
[03:35] <dewdude> ntfs
[03:35] <Knowerrors> mpma, I used to have that problem too
[03:35] <Johnson_> what do you mean can i get that info off another non superkamabala computer
[03:35] <dewdude> that was posted, a while ago..if anyone was around then
[03:36] <Knowerrors> mpma: I fixed it, the solution is...
[03:36] <mpma> Knowerrors: which problem, fontsize or GTK fonts and themes not loading?
[03:36] <Snake__> Hobbsee: Do you have MSN or Yahoo or AIM, or other program you can send me the file, or do I need to set up FTP access?
[03:36] <Knowerrors> mpma: the gtk font/them thing not loading
[03:37] <Hobbsee> Snake__: let me see if it uploads properly here - and i have yahoo, msn, jabber, and icq
[03:37] <tvon> Any suggestions on a wireless monitor?
[03:37] <mpma> ah great what did you end up doing? :-)
[03:37] <Knowerrors> mpma: don't launch systemsettings from the system menu, instead do K>Run Command>Kcontrol
[03:37] <Knowerrors> kcontrol
[03:37] <Snake__> Hobbsee: okay well just tell me if you have to send the file to me, then you can send it to me through yahoo
[03:37] <Johnson_> how do find if my hardware is supported?
[03:38] <Hobbsee> Snake__: ok
[03:38] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: like I said, see if ksensors works (install it and enable the hd and cpu temp sensors)
[03:39] <Johnson_> how do i enable?
[03:40] <Snake__> Hey guys, do you like my website intro
[03:40] <Snake__> http://ctc.vipsystems.us/intro.htm
[03:40] <Snake__> ??
[03:40] <kinfo> what?
[03:40] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: did you install it already?
[03:40] <Johnson_> yeh
[03:41] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: run it, either K>utilities>ksensors, or K>run>ksensors
[03:43] <Johnson_> it said it couldnt run it?
[03:43] <emptystapler> is there some way i can remove the lock option from the K menu?
[03:43] <emptystapler> since if i accidentally click it i can't get back in
[03:46] <dewdude> time to configure and tweak this bad boy
[03:47] <Johnson_> knowerrors: i open ksensors up and nothing happend
[03:47] <Johnson_> it flashed a screen quickly and that was it
[03:47] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: did anything pop up on you system tray?
[03:47] <Johnson_> yeh
[03:48] <Johnson_> like a hd
[03:49] <Johnson_> shall i restart the theme
[03:49] <Knowerrors> shut down superkaramba first
[03:49] <Knowerrors> ksensors is not a karamba app
[03:50] <Knowerrors> it should show a little black box with a thermometer next to it, in you system tray
[03:50] <Johnson_> i see no black box
[03:50] <Johnson_> i got the black bomb for karbala and the ksensors icon
[03:51] <Johnson_> shall i shut them all down or just karabala
[03:51] <Johnson_> karamba
[03:51] <Knowerrors> just karamba
[03:51] <Knowerrors> then click on the ksensors icon and do configure
[03:52] <Knowerrors> right click
[03:52] <Johnson_> yep goto config
[03:52] <Johnson_> then what?
[03:52] <robotgeek> why does the daily dapper kubuntu live cd have a md5sum ?
[03:53] <robotgeek> not have a md5sum, err
[03:54] <Knowerrors> go to mainboard sensors and see whats available Johnson_
[03:54] <Johnson_> what do you mean mainbord sensors?
[03:55] <Johnson_> system infomation?
[03:56] <Knowerrors> no, Mainboard Sensors, right above system information
[03:56] <emptystapler> god, the new Gaim is a train wreck
[03:56] <emptystapler> as far as interfaces are concerned
[03:56] <Johnson_> all i gto is system infomation and global settings
[03:56] <Knowerrors> if you don't have that, then either your missing the sensors package, or your hardware isn't supported by ubuntus kernel
[03:57] <Johnson_> god fucking dammit all i want is this theme to work
[03:57] <robotgeek> hmm, i liked the interface
[03:57] <robotgeek> Johnson_: language :)
[03:57] <emptystapler> those godawful status buttons take up like 15% of the window
[03:57] <Johnson_> i dont want ot be compiling kernals and stuff it sounds complex
[03:57] <robotgeek> emptystapler: you can drag them down
[03:58] <Johnson_> lol im sorry for my bad french
[03:58] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: do you have lm-sensors and sensord packages?
[03:58] <emptystapler> robotgeek: idle times require the window to be like twice as wide as necessary
[03:58] <Johnson_> yeh i think let me check
[03:59] <robotgeek> emptystapler: hmm, i compiled my own only today. havent messed with it much. i liked what i saw in 5 minutes :)
[03:59] <emptystapler> it's better than using it in windows, at least
[03:59] <emptystapler> gtk in windows is some sort of terrible joke
[04:01] <Johnson_> dammit ok god i didnt relise i had to get the sensord package but i got that now
[04:01] <emptystapler> what's a good gmail notification thing to use?
[04:01] <emptystapler> i am eyeballing gmail-notify
[04:02] <Johnson_> knowerrors: what do i do now i downloaded it installed it and shut down ksensor
[04:03] <Knowerrors> try ksensor again, see if that worked
[04:04] <Johnson_> nope i only got them 2 options still
[04:05] <Hobbsee> emptystapler: what client are you using?  or are you just using gmail.com to read your mail?
[04:05] <emptystapler> I just log in through FIrefox
[04:06] <emptystapler> but don't wish to use the firefox extension
[04:06] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[04:06] <emptystapler> kcheckgmail?
[04:07] <Johnson_> bshall i restart my box?
[04:13] <Johnson_> SHALL I JUST INSTALL ALL THE MONITORING PACKAGES I CAN FIND ON SYNAPTIC
[04:15] <Knowerrors> Johnson_: couldn't hurt ;)  I already told you all the ones I have to make it work
[04:15] <Johnson_> ok
[04:15] <Knowerrors> search for temperature
[04:17] <Johnson_> ok
[04:27] <Johnson_> god dammit still isnt working
[04:27] <Johnson_> the red bit dont seam to appear
[04:27] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:27] <_peter> hello
[04:28] <Johnson_> hii
[04:35] <sampan> jahshua  riece is an emacs add-on ... in order to "run" it i think you need to be running emacs first and then follow the directions here: http://www.nongnu.org/riece/riece-en/Getting-started.html#Getting-started ... it does not seem to be a stand-alone program (i.e., executable)
[04:37] <sampan> kubuntu already comes with x-chat, konversation, and irssi for IRC -- do you specifically need IRC within emacs?  (if not, i would imagine that it'll be easier to just use the IRC apps already available to you)
[04:41] <tvon> irssi is a nice console irc client.. if you're looking around for one
[04:41] <kkathman> sampan: how are you :) good to see you :)
[04:41] <sampan> kkathman  hey!  i'm doing well.  how's you?
[04:41] <kkathman> it should be noted, however, that irssi is a konsole only client I believe
[04:41] <kkathman> and there are several available for KDE :)
[04:42] <kkathman> sampan: im okie dokie :)
[04:42] <tvon> yes, irssi is console only
[04:43] <kkathman> right
[04:43] <sampan> yeah irssi is text-only -- it will run in any console (xterm, aterm, etc.) -- i've gotten to like the non-gui of it i guess (irc is a textual medium -- mouse movements just seem to take more time by requiring me to take hands off the keyboard)
[04:43] <kkathman> there is a wide variety of IRC clients in KDE, some basic, others very elaborate and ingenious
[04:43] <sampan> but, on the down-side, it did take me two whole days to configure the look of it in the theme files to where i could bear to read it :/
[04:44] <tvon> personal irssi themeing is only for the brave (read: really really bored college geeks)
[04:44] <tvon> :-D
[04:44] <sampan> lol
[04:44] <sampan> i downloaded a theme from the irssi site and then tweaked it to my liking
[04:44] <kkathman> I like really being able to see and monitor multiple channels at once, without tabbing
[04:44] <sampan> so i only count as "sorta brave"
[04:45] <tvon> though if you find you enjoy it you should look into slrn and mutt
[04:45] <tvon> sampan: thats the way to do it
[04:45] <sampan> kkathman  yeah -- i had to adjust from that ability (from mirc) -- missed being able to watch multiple chans at once for a while too
[04:45] <kkathman> sampan thats why I switched to kvirc
[04:46] <sampan> tvon, i could really enjoy text-only apps -- mutt appeals to me, but alas, i do all my email via browser now anyway -- nothing stays resident on my machine anymore
[04:47] <robotgeek> sampan: no pop?
[04:47] <sampan> kkathman  i looked at kvirc -- seems like it's very nice ... and maturing into a top-notch app.
[04:47] <kkathman> sampan: I got the most recent version and compiled it..the one in the repos is WAY old
[04:48] <kkathman> sampan: very nice interface, full scripting, transparency, multiple channels open at once etc
[04:48] <sampan> robotgeek  nope -- i've gone through so many reformats and stuff over the last year and a half (both win and linux) so i got tired of saving and reimporting all the crap -- so i just leave it on my isp's web-access and gmail and don't bother d/ling them anymore
[04:48] <pussfeller> konversation is pretty good for being as new as it is
[04:49] <sampan> kkathman  braver than i would be!  all my adventures in compiling (two only) have been disastrous -- even with help :X
[04:49] <robotgeek> sampan: hmm, use mutt/fetchmail/postfix. it's just a few config files to take care of
[04:49] <kkathman> yah I used konversation before I switched to KVirc :)
[04:49] <pussfeller> i never like kvirc
[04:49] <pussfeller> maybe its gotten better
[04:49] <kkathman> sampan: I just used the CVS source and it was perfect...I've had absolutely no problems with it
[04:49] <sampan> robotgeek  heh ... just a few!  you do not realize my innate potential for messing up even the simplest things!
[04:50] <pussfeller> i would use irssi if i could remember all the stupid keystrokes
[04:50] <tvon> mutt is wicked configurable
[04:50] <robotgeek> pussfeller: what keystrokes, i only use /nick
[04:50] <sampan> kkathman  and insanekane said he had "no problems" with compiling scim/skim -- and yet, it failed with numerous errors about 20 times for me (same exact commands he used)
[04:50] <kkathman> I take that back, in transparency mode it has a little glitch that if you change your wallpaper on another virtual desktop it uses it no matter what desktop KVirc is running it
[04:50] <pussfeller> you got ones to resize the windows, move the windows, answer queries, accept dccs
[04:50] <kkathman> but thats really minor
[04:51] <robotgeek> pussfeller: hmm, i don't bother with all that, i guess :)
[04:51] <tvon> console apps are for people with too much time on their hands... or with fringe use cases
[04:51] <sampan> lol
[04:51] <robotgeek> tvon: hmm...
[04:52] <tvon> though its arguable that once you get mutt/irssi the way you want them you will never have to touch the config again
[04:53] <pussfeller> ya never know when text clients will come in handy
[04:53] <sampan> i.e., if X blows up
[04:53] <sampan> :X
[04:53] <tvon> they're handy to know about and know how to use, no doubt
[04:53] <pussfeller> yep
[04:53] <tvon> I've had to ssh into my server to run mutt on more than one occasion
[04:55] <Hobbsee> pussfeller: they can be very handy lol - especially when you run development releases
[04:58] <robotgeek> i hope i wont have to use it now, i want gui goodness!
[05:02] <Landis> What channel should I enter to find out how to install a new application?
[05:02] <tvon> what application?
[05:02] <Landis> Firefox
[05:02] <tvon> Give more detail :) This is probably the right place.
[05:02] <tvon> are you running kubuntu?
[05:02] <Landis> Thanks.  Yes - 5.10
[05:02] <Landis> I just downloaded the .gz of Firefox, but I don't know where to extract it to.
[05:03] <tvon> ah, you want the latest and greatest firefox with your 5.10 system?
[05:03] <Landis> Yup.  ;-)
[05:03] <tvon> well, it's been a while since I did that, but I think you ahve two options
[05:04] <tvon> 1) There might be backports forit.. I have never messed with backports
[05:04] <tvon> 2) You should be able to just unpack the tarball somewhre, say in /usr/local/share/firefox
[05:05] <tvon> then in your 'preferred applications' dialog (wherever that is in KDE, I'm kinda new to KDE and only really know gnome) you can enter the full path to the firefox executable that you unpacked
[05:05] <Landis> It says that I don't have permission to access /usr/local/share.  Do I need to be logged in as root for this?
[05:05] <tvon> yes
[05:05] <Landis> Ahhh.  I see.
[05:06] <Landis> Well, thank you for your help.  I'll probably be back in here sooner or later with more questions.
[05:06] <tvon> but
[05:06] <Landis> but?
[05:06] <tvon> you can just as easily unpack the tarball in your $HOME directory, there is no real reason to put it under /usr/local
[05:06] <tvon> unelss you have multiple users on the system (but most people don't)
[05:06] <Landis> I hadn't thought of that.
[05:06] <Landis> So far I don't, but eventually my wife will need an account.
[05:07] <tvon> I install custom apps into $HOME/local/ a lot
[05:07] <tvon> if you want her to have access to it you should put it in /usr/local
[05:07] <Hobbsee> tvon: did you want 1.5 or 1.0.7?
[05:07] <Hobbsee> wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:07] <Landis> Okay.  I'll do that then.
[05:07] <tvon> Hobbsee: Wrong person, it's Landis asking :)
[05:08] <Hobbsee> oops...too many chats...
[05:08] <Hobbsee> true
[05:08] <Landis> Hobbsee: version 1.5
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Landis: see the wiki page then
[05:08] <Landis> Will do.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> tvon: there's a whole lot of extra info
[05:10] <Hobbsee> and you're not really supposed to recommend 1.5 anyway
[05:11] <tvon> Hobbsee: I didn't/wouldn't, that was the question asked
[05:11] <Hobbsee> true
[05:13] <Landis> Is there a problem with 1.5 that I didn't notice before?  It seems okay on my Windows boxes...
[05:13] <tvon> I don't suppose anyone has any tips on migrating from Evolution (with local mail storage) to KMail?
[05:14] <tvon> My only thought is to setup IMAP in evo and move all the mail back to the server so I can re-fetch it with kmail... not exactly an elegant solution thogh
[05:14] <tvon> er, 'though'
[05:14] <Knowerrors> FF 1.5 works fine for me after following the wiki
[05:15] <Knowerrors> if you use certain Gnome progs that depend on 1.07, you could cause problems though
[05:16] <Landis> Oh.  I really don't know - I just installed Kubuntu tonight.
[05:17] <tvon> heh
[05:20] <callie> has anyone noticed how awful p2p is under linux?
[05:20] <callie> or is it just me
[05:20] <callie> ?
[05:21] <Phantom^^> Does anyone here have any experience with cedega and css
[05:41] <Hobbsee> Phantom^^: try in #cedega
[05:42] <callie> Hobbsee: do you use any file sharing software?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> callie: no, sorry
[05:42] <callie> darn
[05:42] <Hobbsee> ask in #ubuntu if no one answers here
[05:43] <seth_k|lappy> I use Azureus
[05:43] <callie> did you notice that other clients where remarkably slower seth_k|lappy ?
[05:44] <seth_k|lappy> I've only ever used Azureus, so I haven't tried other clients
[05:47] <callie> i'll give it a shot seth_k|lappy
[05:48] <kakei> hey guys help me i deleted chroot with sudo rm -r /chroot and my system now wont work fine
[05:51] <callie> you deleted the binary?
[05:56] <callie> why would anyone delete chroot?
[06:07] <MrMazda> brand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?
[06:11] <dewdude> has anyone in here had any expierence with getting an audigy 2 to work?
[06:17] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, mine works
[06:17] <dewdude> help me out
[06:17] <dewdude> mine isn't
[06:17] <dewdude> i can't get sound out of it
[06:17] <seth_k|lappy> right, one sec
[06:17] <dewdude> except harsh digital on the digital jack
[06:17] <seth_k|lappy> I know just the setting to tweak
[06:17] <dewdude> ok
[06:21] <seth_k|lappy> okay dewdude, open a terminal
[06:21] <pussfeller> does azherues do DHT
[06:21] <pussfeller> like bitcommet
[06:21] <seth_k|lappy> type alsamixer
[06:21] <seth_k|lappy> pussfeller, yeah it does
[06:22] <dewdude> yeah
[06:22] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, then go to the setting called Audigy Analog/Digital Out and press M
[06:22] <pussfeller> im behind a router I cant control and bitcomet seems to work the best
[06:22] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, then exit the mixer, and type sudo alsactl store
[06:22] <pussfeller> tho i bet I could control it...
[06:23] <dewdude> alrighyt
[06:23] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, should be okay now
[06:23] <seth_k|lappy> night robotgeek_away :)
[06:23] <robotgeek_away> seth_k|lappy: later
[06:24] <dewdude> exxxxcellent
[06:24] <dewdude> i thought i had hit that before
[06:24] <dewdude> heh
[06:24] <seth_k|lappy> hehe
[06:24] <dewdude> now
[06:25] <dewdude> i need to figure out a way to resample all my content
[06:28] <dewdude> bleh...now something's spiking CPU
[06:31] <Snake__> Hobbsee: Did you need me to host that or you got it covered?
[06:31] <Snake__> (I assume you got it)
[06:31] <Hobbsee> Snake__: i think i got it covered :)
[06:31] <Snake__> Alrighty
[06:31] <Snake__> I forgot all about it
[06:31] <Snake__> lol
[06:33] <sahooe> hi there I have a little problem
[06:33] <sahooe> it's a newbie problem, I think
[06:33] <dewdude> ack
[06:33] <dewdude> seth_k|lappy: any suggestions on how to not make PCM clip?
[06:34] <sahooe> Im trying to install a couple of emulators, I alrady installed the SNES emulator
[06:34] <dewdude> cuz..this sounds like crap
[06:34] <sahooe> but now I'm trying to install dega, a SEGA emulator, so I downloaded it from some page
[06:35] <sahooe> dega .tar.gz, so I extracted the file, but now I don't know what to do
[06:35] <Snake__> sahooe: Did you complie it?
[06:35] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, ermm... I don't even know what you're talking about actually :P, so no I don't
[06:35] <dewdude> oh
[06:35] <seth_k|lappy> sahooe, is it in the repos?
[06:35] <Snake__> seth_k|lappy: no its not
[06:35] <dewdude> it sounds like crap
[06:35] <Snake__> not to my knowledge
[06:35] <dewdude> compared to what it did in XP :(
[06:35] <sahooe> it's not in the repos
[06:35] <sahooe> i have the Makefile file but I don't know how to build the app
[06:36] <Snake__> sahooe: you need to complie, I would help you, but im a n00b to compliing myself
[06:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sahooe about source
[06:36] <dewdude> heh
[06:36] <dewdude> ./configure
[06:36] <dewdude> make
[06:36] <dewdude> make install
[06:36] <dewdude> make clean
[06:36] <nalioth> sahooe: install "checkinstall" and use it instaed of "make install"
[06:36] <seth_k|lappy> sahooe, first install the package "build-essential" and "checkinstall"
[06:36] <Snake__> ./configure && make && make install I think
[06:36] <nalioth> dewdude: checkinstall is recommended instead of "make install"
[06:36] <seth_k|lappy> sahooe, then what nalioth said, NOT what Snake__ said
[06:36] <dewdude> is it?
[06:36] <nalioth> Snake__: see above, please
[06:36] <dewdude> nalioth: LTNS
[06:36] <nalioth> dewdude: howdy, i'm always here
[06:36] <dewdude> haha
[06:36] <sahooe> ok man, it's easy but sometimes I don't know what to do with this Linux Box xD
[06:37] <Snake__> checkinstall is better than make install??
[06:37] <dewdude> yeah..but i've not been around
[06:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sahooe about compile
[06:37] <seth_k|lappy> Snake__, um yeah
[06:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Snake__ about checkinstall
[06:37] <Snake__> Hmm never used it
[06:38] <seth_k|lappy> it doesn't leave nasty unresolved files all over after a make install... it keeps track of everything and makes a faux-.deb out of them :) so you can uninstall easily
[06:38] <sahooe> Snake: the ./configure command tell me "command not found"
[06:38] <Snake__> Did you get the build-essential and check install repos?
[06:38] <nalioth> sahooe: in most all tar.gz there exists a "README" or "INSTALL" read them
[06:38] <seth_k|lappy> sahooe, you must install "build-essential" and "checkinstall" first
[06:39] <nalioth> seth_k|lappy: some source pkgs have no configure script
[06:39] <sahooe> ok then
[06:39] <seth_k|lappy> nalioth, I didn't tell him to ./configure :P
[06:40] <Snake__> I personally believe that every piece of software should be submitted to the repos
[06:40] <saikim> hello
[06:40] <saikim> anyone here?
[06:40] <seth_k|lappy> I think that if you care enough to build it, you should debianize it
[06:40] <saikim> testing......
[06:40] <sahooe> I'm installing those now
[06:40] <saikim> go afternoon
[06:40] <saikim> i am newbie here
[06:40] <saikim> just install kubuntu this few day.
[06:41] <saikim> could i ask some question?
[06:41] <seth_k|lappy> just ask, don't ask to ask :P
[06:41] <saikim> may i?
[06:41] <nalioth> seth_k|lappy: doesn't matter if you have every -dev lib and build tool ubuntu has, if there's no configure script, ./configure won't work
[06:41] <sahooe> ok now I enter ./configure and tells: "No file or directory"
[06:41] <nalioth> saikim: just ask
[06:41] <nalioth> sahooe: are you in the proper directory?
[06:42] <saikim> thanks.
[06:42] <sahooe> yes, but there's only a Makefile file
[06:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sahooe about cli
[06:42] <saikim> i just install scim. i can't use scim at all windows.
[06:42] <nalioth> sahooe: did you read the README or INSTALL ?
[06:43] <saikim> for example i can onli type at firefox and OO but cant type at the kopete nor system.
[06:43] <sahooe> yes, the README file has not installation notes
[06:43] <saikim> i had set my font
[06:43] <seth_k|lappy> saikim, minghua JUST fixed that bug today :)
[06:43] <nalioth> sahooe: that was all there was ?, if so, try "make" at the prompt
[06:43] <jahshua> ummm i need help
[06:43] <jahshua> im getting this warning
[06:43] <jahshua> Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[06:43] <jahshua> from adept
[06:43] <seth_k|lappy> saikim, check back tomorrow in #ubuntu-motu in about 12 hours, and ask for minghua
[06:44] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, if you don't want the CD anymore, go to Manage Repositories in Adept
[06:44] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, and uncheck the CD-ROM list item
[06:44] <nalioth> jahshua: hit alt-f2 and type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then put a # in front of the line that says deb cdrom in it
[06:44] <nalioth> or what seth_k|lappy said
[06:44] <seth_k|lappy> nalioth, Adept has a GUI sources.list configurator iirc, may as well use it
[06:44] <saikim> u means it is scim bug?
[06:44] <sahooe> nalioth: I entered "make", but there's an error
[06:45] <nalioth> sahooe: paste it please in a pastebin
[06:45] <nalioth> !paste
[06:45] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:45] <sahooe> nalioth: don't you know if there's a .deb from repos? I found zsnes but not a SEGA emulator
[06:45] <sahooe> the error is: make: *** [sdl/main.o]  Error 1
[06:46] <nalioth> sahooe: visit packages.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <sahooe> I think it needs SDL, but It's already installed I think
[06:46] <nalioth> sahooe: at the webpage you got that package from, was there not any install instructions?
[06:46] <nalioth> sahooe: you need libsdl*-dev
[06:47] <Snake__> Guys what are you favorite games that arn't very demanding
[06:47] <Snake__> Like kdegames
[06:47] <Snake__> type games
[06:47] <fdelacruz> gtg guys
[06:47] <jahshua> that didnt work
[06:47] <jahshua> the error box wont go away
[06:47] <saikim> ?
[06:47] <jahshua> when i click it
[06:47] <nalioth> jahshua: close your adept
[06:47] <jahshua> i cant
[06:48] <sahooe> nalioth: ok, I'll install it. There's a sdl1.2-dev
[06:48] <Snake__> run  ->> xkill
[06:48] <Snake__> then select adept
[06:48] <Snake__> (click on the window for adept
[06:48] <nalioth> jahshua: click alt-f2 > xkill and touch the adept window
[06:49] <Hobbsee> talk about zap!
[06:49] <Snake__> wtf Hobbsee ?
[06:50] <Hobbsee> touching the window with xkill, and it goes - aka zap!
[06:50] <Snake__> ah ok
[06:51] <Snake__> im like...does she do that often..come out of no where with meaningless comments :)
[06:51] <seth_k|lappy> saikim, yes, it is a scim bug
 oic thanks, so when will it fixed?
[06:52] <seth_k|lappy> saikim, talk to user "minghua" tomorrow, in #ubuntu-motu
[06:52] <seth_k|lappy> ask him
 ok thanks.
[06:53] <seth_k|lappy> np
[06:54] <kkathman> Hey there seth_k|lappy :)
[06:54] <seth_k|lappy> heya kkathman, I got a local apt repo set up and it works! I didn't think I'd actually get it working :P
[06:54] <nalioth> seth_k|lappy: congratulations
[06:55] <Snake__> Whoever invented frozen bubble is an asshole...
[06:55] <seth_k|lappy> b/c it sucks your time away?
[06:55] <Snake__> They made a highly addictive game, and no pause button :)
[06:55] <seth_k|lappy> Snake__, language please
[06:56] <Snake__> ...sorry
[06:56] <seth_k|lappy> isn't ESC pause?
[06:56] <Snake__> No
[06:56] <Snake__> its quit
[06:56] <Snake__> lol
[06:56] <seth_k|lappy> hum
[06:56] <Snake__> Whoever invented frozen bubble is an icehole...
[06:56] <Snake__> better?
[06:56] <Snake__> Can I say that?
[06:56] <seth_k|lappy> :P
[06:56] <Snake__> A fargin sneaky bastage!
[06:56] <Snake__> :)
[06:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:57] <Hobbsee> no pause button?
[06:57] <Hobbsee> not even p?
[06:57] <Snake__> Not that I can find
[06:59] <Hobbsee> weird...
[06:59] <Hobbsee> i thought there was a button on there...
[06:59] <Snake__> Go dl. tell me if I missed it
[07:00] <dewdude> XMMS doesn't like directory names with [ or ]  in it
[07:00] <Hobbsee> it does pause!
[07:00] <Snake__> how..
[07:00] <Hobbsee> still trying to figure out how to though
[07:00] <_colin> how do i apt-get install packages that are universe
[07:01] <dewdude> add it as a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <Snake__> ubotu: tell _colin about repos
[07:01] <dewdude> you should just have to uncomment it
[07:01] <_colin> thanks ill give that a try
[07:02] <Snake__> so uh Hobbsee any luck?
[07:03] <Hobbsee> there's definetly a pause button there...
[07:04] <Hobbsee> tried spacebar?
[07:04] <Snake__> yulp
[07:04] <burepe> How do i know a pci slot number?
[07:04] <Hobbsee> Snake__: have you checked the help file?
[07:04] <Snake__> Nope
[07:04] <Snake__> I wasn't that worried about it, it just kinda surpised me
[07:05] <Snake__> Nothing in the help file
[07:05] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[07:05] <Hobbsee> or tab, maybe...
[07:05] <Snake__> didnt try that one
[07:05] <Hobbsee> there's definetly a pause button
[07:05] <Snake__> not tab
[07:06] <Snake__> I FOUDN IT!!
[07:06] <Snake__> ZOMG!!
[07:06] <Snake__> Hobbsee: its Pause/break
[07:07] <Hobbsee> hehe, well there you go
[07:07] <Hobbsee> told you there was one!
[07:07] <Snake__> Sorry forgot I wasn't on windows, things are a bit more obvious in linux land
[07:07] <Snake__> :)
[07:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:10] <burepe> I loaded a driver with this command sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5. I think the 3 and 5 are wrong. If I want to change them do I have to unload the driver and then do the command again with different numbers or can I just do the command again with different numbers?
[07:12] <Snake__> anyone know any games that are as addicting and as little resource using as frozen bubble??
[07:12] <Snake__> I need more games to play 0.0
[07:12] <_colin> can anyone send me a copy of their sources.list file?
[07:12] <Snake__> !sources
[07:12] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:12] <Snake__> the one for breezy is default
[07:13] <Snake__> _colin:
[07:13] <burepe> !sources
[07:13] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:13] <burepe> oops
[07:14] <burepe> _colin, the second link. it is really easy
[07:14] <Snake__> _colin: are you trying to open your multiverse and universe?
[07:14] <_colin> universe
[07:14] <Snake__> Hang on ill give you a copy of mine
[07:14] <_colin> i editted it & somehow it corrupted it haha
[07:14] <Snake__> Just cuz I feel nice today
[07:14] <_colin> lol, thanks
[07:15] <_colin> what's the easiest way to edit text files with all the sudo stuff?
[07:16] <kkathman> alt-F2, kdesu kate
[07:16] <burepe> sudo nano /file
[07:16] <kkathman> either one...the kate if you are in KDE...nano at the CLI
[07:16] <Snake__> arghhh
[07:17] <_colin> ok cool.
[07:17] <Snake__> Hold on _colin im gettin the file
[07:17] <Snake__> VI was being dumb with me
[07:18] <Snake__> _colin: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/471345
[07:18] <Snake__> there ya go
[07:18] <Snake__> WAIT
[07:18] <Snake__> _colin: you there?
[07:18] <_colin> thanks.  im trying to install fluxbox and it's being a pain
[07:18] <_colin> yeah
[07:18] <Snake__> Dont put that in yet
[07:18] <Snake__> hold on
[07:19] <Snake__> refresh it, there should be no KDE35 at the bottom
[07:19] <Snake__> there should only be 36 lines
[07:19] <Snake__> if thats all there is, your good to go
[07:19] <nalioth> _colin: use kdesu to open gui things with superuser powers and sudo to run thing that are console only
[07:20] <burepe> what is the floppy mount point
[07:20] <nalioth> _colin: using sudo to open gui things can corrupt your permissions and make your life interesting
[07:20] <Snake__> lol
[07:21] <_colin> lol
[07:21] <_colin> im still confused.  so fluxbox is listed under packages as universe, but when i apt-get install fluxbox it says cant find package
[07:22] <Snake__> Did you sudo apt-get update?
[07:22] <_colin> nope, what does that update?
[07:22] <Snake__> Your package lists
[07:22] <_colin> ahh i see.
[07:22] <kkathman> nalioth: thanks for mentioning that... I said that in here the other night and everyone thought I was crazy
[07:22] <Snake__> You should always sudo apt-get update before you search or install a package
[07:23] <Snake__> Then you get the latest ones always
[07:23] <nalioth> kkathman: you ARE crazy, just not about kde
[07:23] <kkathman> true
[07:23] <_colin> ok cool, thanks Snake
[07:23] <Snake__> yepper...
[07:24] <kkathman> although thats not completely true...I AM crazy about KDE
[07:24] <Snake__> what is fluxbox anyway.
[07:24] <nalioth> Snake__: another windowing environment (lightweight)
[07:24] <kkathman> Snake__: it was used in Back to the Future I believe :)
[07:25] <Snake__> kkathman: nice :)
[07:25] <Snake__> the flux capcitator
[07:25] <kkathman> they put it in a box I thought :)
[07:25] <Snake__> nalioth: if I installed it, would it overwrite KDE?
[07:25] <Snake__> Or what?
[07:26] <nalioth> Snake__: nope, it'd just give you another option at your login
[07:26] <Snake__> I see...
[07:26] <nalioth> Snake__: have you seen xubuntu?
[07:26] <Snake__> aw well nothing I want to deal with
[07:26] <Snake__> lol
[07:26] <Snake__> Naw
[07:26] <nalioth> !xubuntu
[07:26] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[07:26] <kkathman> xubuntu - nice lightweight
[07:27] <Snake__> I know about xfce, I debated putting it on this system
[07:27] <kkathman> fast too
[07:27] <sampan> fluxbox is nice -- i like the docking windows ... very handy
[07:28] <kkathman> never really experimented with fluxbox on my system here
[07:28] <Snake__> hey guys, see all the monitering in the corner of this pic
[07:28] <Snake__> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/zoom.php?themes/contrib/reaper-man_reaper.jpg
[07:28] <Snake__> can I get that with KDE??
[07:28] <nalioth> Snake__: you can use conky or gkrellm
[07:29] <Snake__> Which is better?
[07:29] <nalioth> Snake__: if you use conky, i recommend the latest one from conky.sf.net
[07:29] <kkathman> nalioth: did you see they have a beta out for Gaim 2.0.0 ?
[07:29] <nalioth> use them both, and keep using the one you like
[07:29] <nalioth> kkathman: i've already d/l and compiled it
[07:30] <kkathman> just read the initial feedback on it :)
[07:30] <Snake__> nalioth: can I get conky from the reps??
[07:30] <Snake__> repos(
[07:30] <nalioth> Snake__: an older nastier version, yes.
[07:31] <Snake__> hmm I havn't learned how to doe .deb installs yet
[07:31] <nalioth> Snake__: ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[07:31] <Hobbsee> kkathman: what's the feedback say?  i'm curious now
[07:32] <Snake__> I knew that much
[07:32] <Snake__> lol
[07:32] <Snake__> oh its a tgz...i thought it would be a deb
[07:39] <manveru> nalioth: checkinstall really does make :)
[07:40] <nalioth> manveru: i'm stuck in my old old habits
[07:40] <Snake__> Hry guys I got a problem..
[07:40] <Hobbsee> what's conky?
[07:40] <Hobbsee> out of curiousity
[07:40] <Hobbsee> !info conky
[07:40] <ubotu> conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[07:40] <Snake__> Hobbsee: hardware moniter
[07:41] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[07:41] <Snake__> nalioth: I got a error on complie..
[07:41] <Snake__> checking for XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext... no
[07:41] <Snake__> configure: error: something went wrong when checking for Xdbe (double buffer extension)
[07:41] <Snake__> whats up with that?
[07:41] <nalioth> Snake__: try auto-apt. it's mentioned on the !checkinstall page
[07:42] <Snake__> ok
[07:42] <Snake__> !checkinstall
[07:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Snake__ about msg the bot
[07:43] <Chousuke> checkinstall is a bit of a hack though.
[07:43] <Snake__> Nuthin ever good enough for you people
[07:43] <Snake__> lol
[07:44] <Chousuke> But it's preferable to installing with only make install, I guess. :P
[07:44] <Snake__> ew that is the sickest loading bar I ever seen
[07:44] <Snake__> or maybe I just have a dirty mind
[07:45] <Snake__> its [07:45] <Chousuke> does the new gaim have MSN webcam support yet?
[07:45] <nalioth> Chousuke: yes, it's marginally better than 'make install' but not as good as dh_make and family
[07:46] <Chousuke> Debianising sources is somewhat a boring task though.
[07:47] <Chousuke> If gaim has webcam support I could finally silence my stepsister.
[07:47] <seth_k|lappy> Chousuke, the first 2.0 beta doesn't really, I don't believe. Kopete 0.11 does though.
[07:47] <Chousuke> She always complains about gaim being inferior to MSN Messenger because it lacks some obscure feature.
[07:48] <Chousuke> Though if I get her webcam support she'll complain about the lack of buddy smilies or whatever.
[07:48] <Chousuke> or games.
[07:48] <Chousuke> But I'm not allowing her to use windows anyway.
[07:49] <Chousuke> I'd have to clean it of spyware and viruses everytime I visit home.
[07:50] <Chousuke> Now my family's using Ubuntu, and apparently it's working just fine since they haven't called me about it in weeks :P
[08:04] <burepe> what is the xfce desktop package name. There are so many for xfce but i dont know which is just the desktop
[08:05] <Hobbsee> xubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <kkathman> xubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <burepe> tanks yall
[08:28] <ccfiel> hello. im switching to kde from gnome ubuntu. where can i find the add/remove programs like in ubuntu?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> ccfiel: use adept package manager
[08:29] <nalioth> ccfiel: use adept or synaptic
[08:30] <ccfiel> ok thanks let me try :)
[08:36] <ccfiel> Hobbesee: i have tried it. but i what the one like in ubuntu add programs
[08:36] <ccfiel> which has been categorizd
[08:36] <ccfiel> can i run it in kubuntu.?
[08:37] <nalioth> ccfiel: sure you can
[08:37] <burepe> that is synaptic
[08:37] <ccfiel> burepe: not synaptic
[08:37] <burepe> in ubuntu?
[08:37] <ccfiel> yes in ubuntu
[08:38] <nalioth> robotgeek: whats the command for add/remove programs from the terminal
[08:38] <DeepBlueGhost> apt-get
[08:39] <robotgeek> nalioth: heh
[08:39] <nalioth> no, there is a console command that brings up the add/remove thing
[08:39] <ccfiel> not apt-get.
[08:39] <nalioth> robotgeek: we were talking about it in #easyubuntu yesterday
[08:39] <robotgeek> nalioth: the gnome-app-install thing?
[08:39] <ccfiel> yes
[08:40] <ccfiel> thats the one!
[08:40] <nalioth> ccfiel: gnome-app-install
[08:41] <ccfiel> nalioth: i have tried it but command not found. is it not default installed in kubuntu?
[08:42] <nalioth> ccfiel: no, it's an ubuntu thing
[08:42] <demon71> Anyone know what this means, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[08:42] <sampan> !xincludes
[08:42] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:42] <sampan> demon71  ^^^^
[08:42] <nalioth> ccfiel: apt-get install gnome-app-install
[08:42] <Chousuke> is Easyubuntu any good?
[08:42] <demon71> gotcha
[08:42] <nalioth> Chousuke: do you know how to install a local deb?
[08:43] <Chousuke> Yes.
[08:43] <nalioth> Chousuke: and you can adjust your resolution by yourself?
[08:43] <Chousuke> Yes.
[08:44] <nalioth> Chousuke: then easybreezy is way beneath you
[08:44] <Chousuke> I was just wondering if it's good for newbies who can't.
[08:44] <Chousuke> There was some tool which was broken and used too much --force, right? Which one was that?
[08:45] <nalioth> Chousuke: automatix
[08:46] <Chousuke> Ok.
[08:47] <demon71> now i get, " checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[08:48] <Hobbsee> demon71: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[08:48] <nalioth> demon71: all those msgs are asking for *-dev libs
[08:49] <demon71> thanks.. im obviously new to this.. I appreciate the help...
[08:59] <_newbie> Some files i have on a cd don't work properly 'cause the swedish letters in the name aren't shown correctly in Kubuntu, anyone know what to do?
[09:02] <cyne> who knows a good kubuntu client for receiving podcasts?
[09:05] <nrdb> I need some help in getting KDE to print to a fax, I have installed efax and it is working.
[09:14] <_newbie> !charset
[09:14] <ubotu> _newbie: Syntax error in line 1
[09:45] <demon71> Help with ejecting CD, " Eject /dev/hdc failed!"
[10:04] <Chameleon22> i just purchased an AGP slot vidoe card and also have one inbuilt into the mobo, can someone point me in the right direction in regards to making a dual head system? already have everything connected, just need to configure now.
[10:06] <thefish> anyone know of the right place to start ssh-agent, to have it work for all terminals opened?
[10:06] <Chameleon22> thefish, you mean how to start an ssh daemon?
[10:07] <thefish> Chameleon22: no, how to start ssh-agent as the parent of kde
[10:07] <Chameleon22> sorry, not following
[10:08] <thefish> Chameleon22: ssh-agent is very cool, it caches your ssh private key, so you only have to put in the passphrase once
[10:09] <thefish> then you can log in to whatever other host is configd with your public key, without having to type in your passphrase again
[10:09] <Chameleon22> thefish, uhhh ok get ya. i generally just exchange the keys
[10:09] <thefish> but....
[10:09] <thefish> nothing to be ashamed of Chameleon22
[10:09] <thefish> ssh-agent needs to be running as the parent for it to work nicely
[10:09] <Chameleon22> not ashamed at all, dont need to type password in at all
[10:09] <Chameleon22> :p
[10:10] <thefish> and how do you manage that Chameleon22 ?
[10:10] <thefish> please dont say you have a blank passphrase
[10:10] <Chameleon22> no
[10:10] <bkw> Are there any way of making KDE closing all windows and not saving anything when I reboot?
[10:10] <Chameleon22> ah bah yeah
[10:10] <Chameleon22> :(
[10:10] <Chameleon22> hehehe
[10:11] <Chameleon22> all at home, so its ok
[10:12] <thefish> k
[10:16] <bkw> Argh I cannot resize my windows that become to big so I cannot see the buttons when the cover the panel and buttons are bellow
[10:17] <bkw> Is it possible to deny all windows covering panel and bellow
[10:20] <bkw> It is windows in 'system settings' that are huge and cover my panel. I cannot resize those windows
[10:26] <_user> hello
[10:27] <_user> i'm a linux newbie and can anybody plz tell me how to share files over the LAN (kubuntu - xubuntu)?
[10:29] <thefish> _user: apt-get install ssh-server on the xubuntu box, then log in with konqueror like this:fish://123.123.123.123 (where 123.123.123.123 is the ip address of the xubuntu boks)
[10:30] <_user> oh thx
[10:35] <bkw> I'm upgrading kde to 3.5, I hope it will solve the window-hight bug
[10:35] <bkw> height even
[10:51] <robin_2> !firefox
[10:51] <ubotu> firefox is, like, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[10:52] <robin_2> why isn't firefox updated to 1.5 ?
[10:52] <nalioth> !firefox15
[10:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[10:53] <nalioth> robin_2: because it didnt make it in to breezy before the program freeze
[10:53] <DJ_Mer_> oaky someone please help me before i go nuts
[10:53] <StarScream> who do we make requests to for kde 3.5 PPC packages
[10:53] <DJ_Mer_> how do i make firefox my default browser in kubuntu?
[10:54] <StarScream> kde-components-> web-browser
[10:54] <StarScream> add firefox
[10:54] <StarScream> intsead of konq
[10:54] <DJ_Mer_> odd that doesn't even seem to be there
[10:57] <burepe> how can i list how much of my partitions are used?
[10:59] <sahin_w> From a terminal use >> df or df -k or df -h
[11:00] <burepe> thanks
[11:00] <sahin_w> np
[11:02] <DJ_Mer_> okay, enxt question... how do I had stuff to the Kmenu?
[11:03] <Kibou> what..
[11:03] <MrMazda> right click the starter
[11:04] <sahin_w> Yes, and chose the "Menu Editor"
[11:05] <MrMazda> brand new kubuntu install: why does kinfocenter tell me my DPI is 75 when it should be 109 for my display size and resolution?
[11:07] <Chameleon22> can someone help me to install a dual head system. New card I just poped in is nvidia geforce fx5200 (agp) and old one is SiS onboard (pci) ... dont even know where to start , like how do i get the system to detect the geforce card and then how to add thaht to the xorg to get dual system going ?
[11:07] <Kibou> what does "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" say?
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chameleon22: i have heard nvidia+other will be horribly hard, but it might have improved since kim did it
[11:07] <Chameleon22> Kamping_Kaiser, kim???
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> mate of mine, who tried it
[11:08] <Chameleon22> i see ok
[11:08] <MrMazda> same as kinfocenter
[11:08] <Chameleon22> Kamping_Kaiser, you in au
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. Adelaide
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> your nsw?
[11:09] <Chameleon22> uh k, melb here
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah right
[11:09] <Kibou> did you try to set your dpi in any way?
[11:09] <sahin_w> You can force the DPI settings if you want. Look the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file.
[11:09] <MrMazda> totally default
[11:09] <Chameleon22> Kamping_Kaiser, so you dont know ay
[11:10] <Kibou> you have to set your displaysize in your xorg.conf
[11:10] <sahin_w> There is a line: ServerArgsLocal=something
[11:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chameleon22: fraid not
[11:10] <sahin_w> I use ServerArgsLocal=-dpi 100
[11:10] <Chameleon22> k so does anyone know how to install a second vid card then ? not dual just how to get geforce fx5200 detected by the system
[11:10] <Kibou> the displaysize in xorg.conf is better
[11:10] <MrMazda> where goes serverargslocal?
[11:11] <Kibou> as it adjusts the dpi for your current resolution
[11:11] <TooSad> may be to assemble a notebook like a workstation desktop? where can i buy the hw?
[11:11] <sahin_w> In the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file.
[11:11] <sahin_w> However Kibou sad: xorg.conf is the better place.
[11:15] <sahin_w> Ahaaa. I found the parameters in the manual. You can insert your screen size to the xorg.conf file in the "Section Monitor" if you think...
[11:15] <sahin_w> For my laptop: DisplaySize     280 220
[11:15] <MrMazda> why doesn't it do that automatically with DDC?
[11:17] <sahin_w> Well it does on my monitor at home. But don't on my laptop. I'm not a hw expert anyway.
[11:20] <Kibou> ddc doesn't work for me at all..
[11:47] <gotek> hi all
[11:48] <DJ_Mer_> stupid question... how do i install from a .deb file?
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpkg -i
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sudo dpkg -i
[11:49] <DJ_Mer_> i love you
[11:49] <nalioth_zZz> !dpkg
[11:49] <nalioth_zZz> !deb
[11:49] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:49] <gotek> i m new to kde and i would like 2 know it is possible to  have an applet on desktop showing sys infos
[11:49] <nalioth_zZz> gotek: yes, use gkrellm or conky
[11:49] <nalioth_zZz> gotek: also superkaramba has something like that, also
[11:49] <gotek> like disk space memory usage network link etc ...
[11:50] <gotek> all in 1
[11:50] <gotek> ?
[11:50] <nalioth_zZz> gotek: gkrellm or conky
[11:50] <gotek> a bit like gdesklets under gnome  but better if it exists ?
[11:50] <gotek> ok nalioth
[11:50] <gotek> merki
[11:51] <gotek> what is  the best ?
[11:51] <nalioth> superkaramba and gdesklets do the same thing
[11:51] <nalioth> also adesklets
[11:51] <MrMazda> anyone know if Kibou should be back?
[11:52] <__newbie__> Is there any easy way to install Counter Strike on Linux?
[11:52] <MrMazda> anyone know why /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc's -dpi 100 parameter is not used?
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. that's should be hobbsee_geek
[11:58] <Hobbsee_packagin> mmm....there only needs to be one more character!
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:59] <__newbie__> Is there any easy way to install Counter Strike on Linux?
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[12:00] <__newbie__> Not even with WineX?
[12:01] <StarScream> __newbie__: cedega runs it afaik..
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> it does, but you have to buy it, and i had a pain in the but getting it going (so i wont be in future)
[12:02] <StarScream> Kamping_Kaiser: i purchased it and it runs fine for me
[12:02] <StarScream> mind you that is on a slackware system so it might be different on kubuntu
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ok
[12:04] <__newbie__> maybe i should try it then, i dont think i have to buy it...
[12:08] <StarScream> __newbie__: its worth purchasing ..its only $15 or something afaik
[12:08] <StarScream> not overly expensive and it makes life so much easier
[12:09] <__newbie__> I will consider that
[12:10] <StarScream> it is worth checking the website to see if your game is supported though and how well it runs
[12:13] <new__> salut
[12:13] <new__> j'ai un petit probleme, j'ai install ubuntu5.10 hier il detecte mon modem tt fonctionne tres bien, j'ai essay aujourdhui d'uiliser kubunut mais le probleme que je ne trouve pas le modem avec kubuntu:
[01:17] <che_benway> hi. having a bit of trouble with passwords. if i lock a session I am not able to unlock itby entering the password.
[01:18] <che_benway> can anyone help please?
[01:39] <cheeks> queers
[01:39] <Hentai^XP> ?
[01:39] <cheeks> idk
[01:40] <cheeks> whats up with this chat?
[01:40] <Kaiser_Away> say something intelligent or a question and sometimes it comes to life ;)
[01:41] <cheeks> hmmm
[01:41] <cheeks> who are you guys?
[01:42] <Kaiser_Away> this is a channel for people who use/like/are interested in Kubuntu-linux
[01:43] <cheeks> ohh yah my whole computer class just went over to kubuntu
[01:43] <Kaiser_Away> realy? o_0
[01:43] <Hentai^XP> or just stick in here for no good reason
[01:43] <cheeks> yah were ghetto
[01:44] <Hentai^XP> ok?
[01:46] <cheeks> are u guys a bunch of nerds?
[01:49] <chrisdawson> 
[01:56] <chode> Windows is better
[01:56] <Grundle> I agree
[01:56] <Grundle> You guys are a bunch of nerds
[01:56] <Grundle> exept for chode
[01:56] <Grundle> his name is cool
[01:56] <Kaiser_Away> *sigh*
[01:56] <chode> gee thanks
[01:56] <chode> anyone else have Kubuntu in school?
[01:56] <Lacerta> my kubuntu started crashing again
[01:57] <Hentai^XP> wtf
[01:57] <Grundle> y are you sighing? disapointed that we couldnt be your butt buddies?
[01:57] <chode> My Kubuntu hasn't crashed yet and it's running on a pentium 2 computer with 16mb ram
[01:58] <Lacerta> i installed it last night and now when i turned it on it crashed
[01:58] <chode> how can you be talking on here if it's crashed
[01:58] <Lacerta> it's the PC next to this
[01:58] <chode> aight
[01:59] <Kaiser_Away> Lacerta: what part crashed?
[01:59] <Kaiser_Away> thanks apokryphos
[02:00] <Lacerta> well it doesn't completely crash always
[02:00] <Lacerta> sometimes it just draws some really strange stuff where should be windows
[02:00] <Lacerta> then if 'm lucky i can still reboot
[02:01] <Kaiser_Away> have you got the latest updates?
[02:01] <Lacerta> no i haven't got the network working yet
[02:01] <Lacerta> but it starts doing this after i install some of the stuff i did
[02:05] <Lacerta> where do i get the updates?
[02:06] <Kaiser_Away> u.m try adept. i don't use Kubuntu :|
[02:06] <Lacerta> can i get them from this PC and burn to CD?
[02:19] <_newbie_> Can someone give me a tip of a good and free webhost?
[02:25] <apokryphos> _newbie_: there aren't really any :D but the place to look is http://freewebspace.net/
[02:25] <apokryphos> personally I recommend just paying a few bucks and getting a decent shared hosting account somewhere
[02:26] <dewdude> i uhh
[02:26] <dewdude> i host mysi have a server
[02:26] <dewdude> no, i wo't host you
[02:28] <_newbie_> apokryphos: I appreciate your help. Thanks!
[02:39] <dewdude> XMMS is broken
[02:39] <dewdude> or something
[02:41] <apokryphos> dewdude: how could that possibly be a negative thing? ;-)
[02:43] <dewdude> because
[02:43] <dewdude> none of my other players work right
[02:43] <dewdude> Kaffeine isn't playing MAC
[02:43] <dewdude> even tho i installed MAC gstreamer
[02:44] <dewdude> well
[02:44] <dewdude> mp3 was fine....for a while
[02:44] <dewdude> it's old
[02:44] <dewdude> it needs to go the way of the dinosaur
[02:49] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:51] <ToyMan> morning all
[02:55] <Jochen> hey guys. I need to install jdk
[02:55] <Jochen> Somebody has an idea how to do this?
[02:55] <Jochen> I need your help
[02:57] <dreumah> i just reinstalled kubuntu and now it wont recognize my external partition
[03:07] <dreumah> i just reinstalled kubuntu and now it wont recognize my external partition
[03:07] <dreumah> i just reinstalled kubuntu and now it wont recognize my external hardrive
[03:07] <dreumah> none of my secondary partitions i can see
[03:15] <maxman> osjdg
[03:29] <hugelmopf> there is nothing like an iocharset option for mounting reiserfs. does anybody know how to specify the character set to be used for filenames on reiserfs partitions?
[03:30] <hugelmopf> my problem is, that on my reiserfs partition (which was created in debian), special characters appear as question marks. :-(
[03:31] <hugelmopf> maybe this does not have anything to do with the reiserfs mounting though, but with utf-8 chosen as my default characterset, while the files are encoded in iso-8859-15
[03:46] <hugelmopf> ah, i found a solution: in case anybody has similar problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UTFEightMigrationTool
[03:50] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me how to make a fat32 partition writeable to all users?
[03:55] <mikael> hello?
[03:55] <mikael> woho i got Kubuntu working :P
[03:58] <brendan_> you can set the umask= option in fstab
[04:04] <robin_2> milksteak: congrats :)
[04:05] <robin_2> milksteak: oh sry wrong one.
[04:05] <robin_2> nvm me
[04:05] <milksteak> hah
[04:06] <dale_gribble> hey everybody
[04:06] <robin_2> hi
[04:06] <dale_gribble> i have a question about installing the ATI propriety drivers...I found a guide in the forums, and it said that you have to remove the restricted packages (ndiswrapper, etc)
[04:07] <_nano_> is there a way to make kopete links open in firefox? I've set my default browser as firefox in kde components but still no luck :(
[04:07] <dutch> http://www.test.com
[04:07] <_nano_> dale_gribble: which card do you own?
[04:07] <dutch> hmm
[04:07] <dale_gribble> its an ati 200M (laptop)
[04:08] <dale_gribble> but i need the ndiswrapper packages, so i wanted to see if it really matters if you remove them pre-install, and if so, can you reinstall the restricted packages after installing the proprietary drivers?
[04:08] <_nano_> dale_gribble: aah, i've ati radeon 7500, for which ati guys don't supply drivers, hence I used the defauult drivers given by kubuntu
[04:08] <_nano_> dale_gribble: could you post the link to that forum?
[04:09] <dale_gribble> yeah i tried the default xorg-fglrx package, but i was having lots of problems, i basically got it working w/ no acceleration, which did not help me much ;D
[04:10] <dutch> I have installed the kde 3.5 packages. But now when I start konqueror, it opens a white screen, how do I set it back to 'about:konqueror' ?
[04:10] <_nano_> dale_gribble: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26148
[04:10] <dale_gribble> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[04:10] <dutch> it isn't the 'Home URL'
[04:12] <dale_gribble> cool thanks for the link, i'll have to try to add those options
[04:14] <dale_gribble> any idea about the restricted packages tho?
[04:21] <hugelmopf> dutch: open about:konqueror and save the view-profile
[04:22] <dutch> that's simple.
[04:32] <pm> cze
[04:32] <pm> s tu jacy Polacy?
[04:33] <pm> hello there
[04:34] <DarthVader> hello
[04:34] <DarthVader> I have a little problem with Dapper Flight 2, is this the right place to get some help/suggestion? :-)
[04:34] <pm> anyone using kde 3.5.0?
[04:35] <raphink> pm: yes, many
[04:35] <andreas_> DarthVader, yes
[04:35] <raphink> DarthVader: what is  your problem?
[04:35] <raphink> pm: and no, this is not a polish-speaking place
[04:36] <pm> one quetsion? is it possible to upgrade via apt-get upgrade or should i uninstall kde 3.4.3 first?
[04:36] <raphink> yes it is possible pm
[04:36] <raphink> you have to add the kde 3.5 repositories
[04:36] <pm> i know that ;)
[04:37] <raphink> pm: see here :http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[04:37] <DarthVader> well, since I installed from the CD that version last week, I keep having to re-set the network settings everytimes in "Network Settings" (DHCP), and yesterday I upgraded a bunch of stuff and now it doesn't even want to activate the card anymore ...
[04:37] <raphink> add the repository, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:37] <raphink> DarthVader: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebin please?
[04:38] <DarthVader> raphink: no, I'm at work now, the Linux bo is at home :(
[04:38] <DarthVader> box
[04:38] <raphink> DarthVader: that doesn't help i guess ;)
[04:38] <pm> so, i'll stay with kde 3.4.3 then
[04:38] <raphink> DarthVader: try running dhclient from a console then
[04:38] <raphink> when you're @home
[04:39] <raphink> pm: why?
[04:39] <raphink> pm: I don't get what's wrong with the installation process with you?
[04:39] <DarthVader> raphink: ok, thanks.
[04:39] <pm> i used that method once but my kde 3.5.0 behaved strange
[04:40] <pm> i thought it was because i didn't uninstall the old one
[04:40] <raphink> no, there's no need to uninstall
[04:40] <pm> i returned to kde 3.4.3
[04:40] <raphink> hmm ok
[04:40] <pm> kwin crashed every 10 minutes
[04:42] <pm> it was impossible to work on it
[04:43] <raphink> did you report the bug ?
[04:43] <raphink> and do you know if this bug has been fixed since ?
[04:43] <pm> no, i didn't
[04:43] <raphink> bugs are fixed everyday
[04:43] <raphink> you cannot be sure that this bug hasn't been fixed since ;)
[04:43] <raphink> and do not expect things to work if you don't report bugs when you have some
[04:44] <DarthVader> I was a bit surprised to not find "make" altought I installed gcc ...
[04:44] <DarthVader> I guess it's in a separate package
[04:44] <raphink> DarthVader: install build-essential
[04:44] <jjesse> DarthVader: i think the better one to install is the build-essential packages
[04:44] <raphink> to get the essential tools
[04:44] <jjesse> i think thats its name
[04:44] <raphink> I'd recommend you install checkinstall aswell ;)
[04:45] <jjesse> grin raphink types faster then me
[04:45] <raphink> hehe ;)
[04:46] <pm> i think i'll wait for the next release
[04:46] <DarthVader> thanks guys
[04:59] <cracksito> hi guys i have Ubuntu how can i install KDE on it?
[04:59] <pm> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <pm> or sudo apt-get install kde
[04:59] <cracksito> kubuntu-desktop have 3.5  or i have to upgrade it?
[05:00] <pm> i don't know :/
[05:00] <dutch> see kubuntu.org
[05:00] <raphink> cracksito: by default kubuntu breezy has kde 3.4.3
[05:00] <jjesse> you have to setup a source for 3.5 breezy packages
[05:00] <raphink> but you can upgrade it
[05:01] <jjesse> see the anouncments
[05:01] <raphink> adding sources
[05:01] <pm> i think you should add sources first
[05:01] <pm> see kubuntu.org
[05:01] <nxv__> hi, does (k)ubuntu only have a very old firefox version or is there a problem with the version string? i'd like to install flashblock but it says my version of firefox is too old
[05:02] <pm> kubuntu has firefox 1.0
[05:03] <pm> 1.0.7. to be precise
[05:03] <Kaiser_Away> nxv__: are you using hoary??
[05:03] <dutch> nxv__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:03] <dutch> nxv__: if you want to install firefox 1.5
[05:03] <dutch> which is fat
[05:03] <dutch> *fast
[05:04] <nxv__> i have breezy running
[05:04] <Kaiser_Away> that should be fine :|
[05:06] <pm> i don't use firefox from the ubuntu repos
[05:06] <tvon> In KMail, what's the difference between a filter and a pop filter?
[05:07] <nxv__> the installation process under the given link is not very comfortable. what happens if i do a apt-get upgrade. will it again reinstall the old version?
[05:07] <tvon> oh, nevermind
[05:07] <nxv__> is there a reason for firefox beeing soo old? is mozilla newer or is breezy integrating the firfox successor?
[05:09] <tvon> breezy will not get a new firefox
[05:09] <tvon> breezy is bugfixes only
[05:09] <usr506> hi, ive installed kubuntu :P, look nice, but can i install firefox ??
[05:10] <pm> usr506, no you can't :/
[05:10] <tvon> uh, yes you can
[05:11] <pm> of course you can!!!
[05:11] <tvon> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:11] <usr506> ahh ok :)
[05:12] <nxv__> tvon: so i would have to wait for the next release in 04/06 for a new version if i want to run a stable system?
[05:12] <tvon> nxv__: yes
[05:12] <nxv__> :(
[05:13] <tvon> Once a release is made, the only package upgrades that come are bugfixes.
[05:13] <tvon> Once a Ubuntu/Kubuntu release is made that is.
[05:13] <pm> you can download the newest version of firefox form mozilla.org
[05:13] <tvon> Yes, you can always do it yourself
[05:14] <tvon> There is a page on the wiki about that
[05:14] <dutch> are all bugsfixes in firefox 1.5 been backported to firefox 1.07 ?
[05:14] <tvon> dutch: I suspect not
[05:14] <freemanen> if you want to see what is planned to for kubuntu 6.04
[05:14] <freemanen> where do you look?
[05:14] <usr506> how install firefox ? apt-get doesnt find it :(
[05:14] <tvon> freemanen: there is a roadmap on launchpad.net
[05:15] <dutch> if that's not the case, it's kinda stupid that kubuntu breezy  does not upgrade to firefox 1.5
[05:15] <tvon> breezy can't just go upgrading packages when a new release is made
[05:15] <dutch> usr506: mozilla-firefox ?
[05:15] <freemanen> and there you see the news?
[05:15] <dutch> tvon: no, but if the bugs / security flaws aren't fixed either..
[05:15] <tvon> a lot of packages depend on firefox, upgrading firefox means upgrading all those packages as well
[05:16] <dutch> so we keep a firefox system with security holes :)
[05:16] <nxv__> and how to install flash block if i have to use an old firefox version to stay stable?
[05:16] <dutch> sound logic :)
[05:16] <tvon> dutch: security fixes are usually backported.. as are severe bugs
[05:16] <dutch> tvon: ok, well in that case
[05:16] <pm> which packages depend on firefox?
[05:16] <tvon> erm, mostly GNOME stuff I think, I don't know if anything in kde uses it
[05:17] <dutch> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <= you can check it out, if you want firefox 1.5
[05:17] <dutch> i'm using it now.. although the 32bit version in kubuntu 64, because of the flash thing.
[05:18] <Pupeno> What method (vnc ?) do you recommend me to access my desktop from elsewhere ? I tried the kde desktop sharing thing, but it only last an hour.
[05:18] <Pupeno> I want something permanent.
[05:18] <dutch> Depends: fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libidl0, libjpeg62, libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.10.1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1), libx11-6, libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, lib
[05:19] <dutch> firefox depends on those packages.
[05:19] <pm> i asked which packages depend on firefox?
[05:19] <tvon> its not what ff depends on, it's what depends on ff
[05:19] <tvon> It's mostly gnome packages
[05:20] <tvon> (if not entirely)
[05:20] <dutch> pm: oh sry
[05:20] <usr506> i can or i cannot install firefox ? :S
[05:20] <dutch> usr506: yes you can :)
[05:20] <pm> i think there were 5-6 packages that i had to uninstall with firefox
[05:21] <dutch> usr506: apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:21] <pm> all of them unnecessary for me
[05:21] <tvon> Even so, that's not the whole point.  When a distro makes a release they need to keep it stable and you can't do that if you let new versions of packages in.  New versions always mean new bugs.
[05:21] <tvon> Oh, sorry, it's 'firefox' in dapper
[05:21] <dutch> that's why we use openoffice pre2.0 ?
[05:22] <pm> i don't use this :)
[05:22] <tvon> dutch: as opposed to the final release? yes, becuase the final did not come out in time to test it so they test and fixup a pre-release instead.
[05:22] <usr506> if i cannot use firefox, i will use opera instead :P
[05:22] <tvon> Opera is pretty nice, I must admit
[05:23] <pm> you can you firefox, but you have to get the version from mozilla.org
[05:23] <dutch> I found it a little weird to use pre release version in a stable distro.. even when they are tested.. If it was stable it was allready final.
[05:23] <dutch> usr506: are you using dapper?
[05:23] <pm> you can you = you can use ;)
[05:23] <tvon> dutch: it is a little odd... it just means the Ubuntu developers who maintain it are very brave
[05:24] <dutch> tvon: :)
[05:24] <usr506> no dutch im using breezy
[05:24] <tvon> People who maintain large/complex packages are a little crazy
[05:24] <dutch> usr506: so why can't you just install mozilla-firefox ?
[05:24] <usr506> but apt-get doesnt found candidates
[05:24] <dutch> strange
[05:25] <tvon> apt-cache search firefox
[05:26] <dutch> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/471789
[05:26] <dutch> I think there is something wrong with your apt.
[05:26] <pm> how many of you switched to ubuntu form debian or some debian-based distro?
[05:26] <dutch> I did.
[05:26] <uraani> me too
[05:26] <usr506> root@kubuntu:/home/jorge# apt-cache search firefox
[05:26] <usr506> mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb - Mozilla Firefox English language/region package
[05:26] <usr506> openoffice.org2 - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[05:26] <dutch> !pastebin
[05:26] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:26] <usr506> thats all :S
[05:27] <tvon> erm.. I think I was using Fedora
[05:27] <dutch> usr506 check your sources.list
[05:27] <pm> dutch, uranani,   debian?
[05:27] <tvon> usr506: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list at pastebin
[05:27] <dutch> debian
[05:27] <pm> or debian-based?
[05:27] <tvon> Is Adept in breezy?
[05:27] <uraani> pm: debian testing
[05:28] <dutch> btw I'm still using debian on my server
[05:28] <dutch> debian sarge, was woody.
[05:28] <pm> i'm fresh - ubuntu is my first debian-based distro :)
[05:28] <usr506> ohh, i uncomment lines and now im updating packages :)
[05:29] <usr506> i really liked kubuntu, with firefox it gets better
[05:29] <dutch> what's wrong with konqueror ?
[05:29] <pm> i hate konqueror
[05:29] <tvon> I'd like konq okay if it worked with *.google.com
[05:30] <dutch> I'm using konqueror most of the time.. only when a site won't render correctly I switch back to firefox32
[05:30] <pm> it's  great as a file manager though
[05:30] <dutch> tvon google ?
[05:30] <usr506> i like firefox
[05:30] <dutch> tvon: what isn't working ?
[05:30] <tvon> dutch: maps.google.com, local.google.com and gmail don't work with konqueror
[05:30] <dutch> well i'm using gmail in konqueror
[05:31] <tvon> dutch: maps.google.com just keeps redirecting or doesn't render (depending what UA I use)
[05:31] <tvon> gmail either reverts to vanilla HTML or renders poorly epending on what UA I use
[05:31] <dutch> gmail in konqueror works if you change the user-agent string :)
[05:31] <tvon> dutch: which one do you use?
[05:31] <dutch> yes some UI errors..
[05:31] <dutch> but it works :)
[05:31] <tvon> oh, heh
[05:31] <tvon> I demand perfection!
[05:31] <dutch> but that's not konqueror fault
[05:32] <tvon> heh, not really, Opera is a little glitchy too
[05:32] <dutch> google uses specific mozilla and IE javascript things
[05:32] <dutch> which is bad, I think.
[05:32] <tvon> yeah, it does
[05:33] <dutch> Is it not possible for konqueror to use the gecko engine of firefox ?
[05:33] <dutch> instead of khtml
[05:33] <tvon> there was a mozillapart at some point, I don't know if it's still around
[05:33] <_nano_> konqueror sucks at flash plugins too in my case :(
[05:33] <tvon> It's been a while since I used KDE full time.. probably 3 years
[05:34] <pm> why use konqueror if you can use superb firefox or opera?
[05:34] <tvon> Because konqueror is "integrated"
[05:34] <dutch> flash sucks anyway
[05:35] <usr506> im installing firefox :D
[05:35] <pm> ie is integrated as well :)
[05:35] <dutch> I don't get it, why is macromedia not compiling a 64 bit version.
[05:35] <dutch> IE is too much inegrated
[05:35] <dutch> *integrated.
[05:36] <tvon> pm: true, but I don't care about Windows being integrated :)
[05:36] <dutch> well the whole windows things it too much integrated.
[05:36] <dutch> It's a good thing vista will have the Desktop and Kernel seperated like Linux.
[05:37] <pm> vista is becomin very unix-like, don't you think?
[05:38] <dutch> don't know.. it will get a unix like console thing.
[05:38] <dutch> a good thing too.
[05:38] <_nano_> tvon: what does it mean by "integrated"?
[05:38] <tvon> _nano_: "Made to work very well with the rest of the desktop"
[05:38] <tvon> _nano_: better?
[05:38] <Snake__> Hey can anyone help me?
[05:39] <dutch> probably not
[05:39] <Snake__> Im trying to complie conky
[05:39] <tvon> Is it medical?
[05:39] <tvon> oh
[05:39] <Snake__> Not yet
[05:39] <Snake__> :)
[05:39] <_nano_> Snake__: you could get conky from apt-get i guess
[05:39] <dutch> what is conky
[05:39] <Snake__> I could, but its an older version
[05:39] <_nano_> !conky
[05:39] <ubotu> _nano_: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:39] <_nano_> darn
[05:39] <Snake__> ....foolish bot
[05:39] <dutch> I'm lazy to use google :)
[05:39] <pm> i thought conky was a nickname for konqueror :D
[05:40] <Snake__> no lol
[05:40] <dutch> king conky
[05:40] <Snake__> Its a system moniter
[05:40] <tvon> man YaKuake is the sweetest terminal I've ever seen
[05:40] <djk_> !info conky
[05:40] <ubotu> conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[05:40] <Snake__> it watchs ur CPU and all net write andread etc
[05:40] <Snake__> there ya go
[05:41] <dutch> ah looks nice
[05:41] <DarthVader> is there a package for installing Linux source code? my PC does HyperThreading but the kernel that come with Flight 2 doesn't seems to have HT enabled ...
[05:41] <Snake__> The on in the repos is 1.3.1 tho
[05:41] <Snake__> latest is 1.3.4
[05:42] <dutch> does HT really matters ?
[05:42] <Snake__> HT as in hyper threading?
[05:42] <DarthVader> dutch: well it's suppose to "improve performance" in some case
[05:42] <DarthVader> Snake__: yes
[05:42] <Snake__> Or AMD's HT
[05:42] <Snake__> They are diffrent
[05:42] <Snake__> lol
[05:43] <dutch> well you can't turn off / on AMD's HT
[05:43] <DarthVader> dutch: I'm on Intel
[05:43] <dutch> I know
[05:43] <dutch> :D
[05:43] <Snake__> Intels hyper threading does a lot more for its processors than AMDs hyper transport does
[05:43] <dutch> just a respond to Snake__
[05:43] <dutch> Intel sucks
[05:43] <dutch> in many ways
[05:43] <Snake__> Agreed
[05:44] <_nano_> dutch: AMD sucks only in one way -- heating :(
[05:44] <dutch> but I won't start a discussion on that :)
[05:44] <Snake__> I used to be a intel fanboy until DRM
[05:44] <Snake__> After they slipped the DRM on their chips, I will never buy another
[05:44] <pm> anyone knows how to compile gtk2 version of audacity 1.2.4?
[05:44] <dutch> my last Intel was a 386 :D
[05:44] <DarthVader> so If I want to recompile the kernel, can I grab any source TGZ from the web or is there a special package for Kunbuntu?
[05:44] <tvon> DarthVader: there is a package
[05:44] <_nano_> dutch: 386?? lol !
[05:45] <_nano_> dutch: do you still have that? you could fetch antique price for that in the market :D
[05:45] <tvon> DarthVader: that includes all the patches in packaged the ubuntu kernel.  You should use it
[05:45] <dutch> oh wait. no not true.. I got a celeron between my cyrix and amd's
[05:45] <DarthVader> tvon: thanks. Which one is it?
[05:45] <dutch> hmm
[05:45] <dutch> btw cyris really sucks :D
[05:45] <tvon> DarthVader: not sure... try 'apt-cache search kernel-source'
[05:45] <dutch> well I once got a 8086 XT laptop
[05:46] <DarthVader> tvon: thanks a lot
[05:46] <tvon> DarthVader: wait, you want linux-source
[05:46] <dutch> tvon: I think he means the kernel
[05:47] <tvon> dutch: yeah, ubuntu uses linux-[image|source]  for kernel packages
[05:47] <dutch> Snake__: btw there is a deb for conky (amd64) on sf.net
[05:47] <Snake__> Ya I Just seen the debs now :(
[05:47] <Snake__> Im so blind
[05:47] <Snake__> lol
[05:47] <tvon> kernel-source is an old (2.4) Debian upstream package
[05:48] <tvon> DarthVader: use kpackage too
[05:49] <nalioth> dutch: Snake__ conky is in the repos (and it is trivial to compile from source)
[05:49] <pm> which kernel version you use?
[05:49] <Snake__> nalioth: the one in the repos is ol
[05:49] <Snake__> d
[05:49] <_nano_> nalioth: hi :)
[05:50] <Snake__> 1.3.1 is in the repos, 1.3.4 is the latest
[05:50] <nalioth> yes, but compiling from cvs is the way to go for conky
[05:50] <obsvuugj> anyone knows how to compile with kdevelop ?
[05:50] <Snake__> cvs?
[05:50] <Snake__> Pardon my stupidity
[05:51] <_nano_> btw i couldn't get conky to read my acpi temperature, as my laptop doesn't seem to have hardware sensors :(
[05:51] <ubuntu> hi, ive a question: Does a shell-command exist which masks special chars like + --> \+
[05:51] <Snake__> _nano_: did you get it off the repos?
[05:51] <_nano_> Snake__: yea
[05:51] <Snake__> _nano_: yesterday a guy said it was horrid
[05:52] <Snake__> lol
[05:52] <nalioth> Snake__: concurrent versioning system (means it's the latest version the devs are actually working on atm)
[05:52] <_nano_> Snake__: what's horrid?
[05:52] <Snake__> the conky in the repos
[05:52] <Snake__> He said the latest one was muc hbetter
[05:52] <_nano_> lemme check the changelog
[05:53] <Snake__> I was lookin at that
[05:53] <_nano_> Snake__: could you point me to the website? if you are on it now?
[05:53] <DarthVader> tvon: yes I meant the kernel source
[05:53] <Snake__> _nano_: want the change long?
[05:53] <_nano_> Snake__: yeah sure
[05:53] <Snake__> http://conky.sourceforge.net/changelog.html
[05:54] <tvon> DarthVader: I know, 'linux-source' is the package you want, not 'kernel-source'
[05:54] <tvon> linux-source-2.6.something
[05:54] <bhna> how can i change the time that the aic7xxx kernel is waiting or probing?
[05:54] <Snake__> Dude theres all kinds of memleaks in 3.1.1
[05:55] <_nano_> Snake__: aah! the acpi segfault is fixed \o/
[05:56] <_nano_> Snake__: that's what I was getting with the repos
[05:56] <Snake__> lol
[05:56] <Snake__> _nano_: and thats we use latest versions of software :)
[05:56] <DarthVader> tvon: thanks
[05:56] <tvon> DarthVader: np
[05:57] <Snake__> Exceept I cant get the flamer to complie
[05:59] <nalioth> Snake__: got all the depends? type "sudo apt-get build-dep conky"
[05:59] <Snake__> ahh nope
[06:00] <Snake__> that might be why
[06:02] <_nano_> Snake__: just compiled it
[06:02] <_nano_> Snake__: and runs pretty ok ...:)
[06:02] <Snake__> I was missing some builds
[06:03] <Snake__> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:03] <Snake__>   build-essential debconf-utils debhelper dpkg-dev gettext html2text
[06:03] <Snake__>   intltool-debian libice-dev libsm-dev libxau-dev libxext-dev libxi-dev
[06:03] <Snake__> Ya some builds...
[06:03] <Snake__> :)
[06:03] <nalioth> Snake__: <ahem> /topic
[06:04] <Snake__> I was missing a whole lot more than that, I shortened it for the channel :)
[06:04] <_newbie_> How should I do to accurate center text in GIMP?
[06:05] <Jochen> Hallo
[06:05] <Jochen> Question: Where do I make system wide compiler settings forever?
[06:05] <Jochen> Has anybody of you a idea?
[06:05] <Jochen> For example the compiler flags for the AthlonXP CPU
[06:05] <Snake__> !auto apt
[06:05] <ubotu> Snake__: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:05] <Snake__> Grr
[06:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Snake__ about checkinstall
[06:06] <Jochen> I think I found the sollution
[06:07] <Jochen> I made the entries as export in the /etc/rc.config
[06:07] <Snake__> thanks
[06:07] <Jochen> I make
[06:07] <Jochen> sorry
[06:08] <Jochen> The file for system wide: /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:08] <Jochen> instead of /home/user/bash.bashrc
[06:08] <nalioth> Jochen: in your home it's ~/.bashrc
[06:09] <eXistenZ> hello, there is some slowness in Konqueror web browisng, although I get high download speed. How can I fix it
[06:09] <djk_> does bittornado support resuming?
[06:10] <Jochen> Thank you for your help again!
[06:10] <Jochen> You are wonderfull
[06:10] <Jochen> bye
[06:11] <_newbie_> How should I do to accurate center text in GIMP?
[06:11] <tvon> Gimp text manupulation is pretty basic..
[06:12] <tvon> but, you can select the layer and any other layers you wan to align against and use 'align visible layers'
[06:12] <nalioth> djk_: yes it does.
[06:12] <tvon> inkscape is a lot nicer for that sorta thing though, if you aren't doing too much pixel work
[06:12] <_newbie_> tvon: Thanks!
[06:12] <tvon> _newbie_: np
[06:12] <djk_> nalioth: thanks.
[06:15] <callie> evening
[06:22] <callie> did you move closer to the monitor?
[06:22] <tvon> ahhhhh, yeah
[06:22] <tvon> ;)
[06:22] <callie> lol
[06:23] <tvon> hrm.. something musta been upgraded...
[06:23] <tvon> I should really pay attention to these things.. 8pt just became the nice size, was 12pt a few minutes ago
[06:23] <_mike> io
[06:23] <callie> maybe your eyes are evolving?
[06:24] <tvon> could be
[06:24] <EauTisse> is there a GUI frontend for a firewall that anyone would recommend ?
[06:24] <tvon> maybe it's the coffee
[06:24] <nalioth> EauTisse: a firewall is unnecessary in a default install
[06:24] <EauTisse> I see "firewall builder" on SourceForge
[06:24] <callie> EauTisse: firestarter?
[06:24] <EauTisse> aha, I'll go see
[06:24] <callie> theyre talking firewalls in #ubuntu right now too
[06:24] <djk_> guarddog, firestarter... just plain iptables in cli :)
[06:25] <EauTisse> nalioth: you mean all the ports are shut by default ?
[06:25] <nalioth> EauTisse: i mean there are no services behind the ports to open them
[06:25] <EauTisse> yeah, ok
[06:26] <ejofee> which one is best: evolution, thunderbird, or kmail?
[06:26] <djk_> nalioth: but the default install has iptables, so technically, the configuration of it is unnecessary ;)
[06:26] <nalioth> djk_: um, yes.
[06:27] <callie> kmail is just fine for me ejofee
[06:27] <nalioth> ejofee: use all of them, keep the one you like
[06:28] <EauTisse> a quick reminder please, rpm doesn't work with apt-get, right ? I guess I have to build from sources
[06:29] <callie> or use alien EauTisse
[06:29] <morrow> try "alien"
[06:29] <nalioth> EauTisse: yes, building from sources is better than using non-ubuntu pkgs
[06:29] <callie> alien can convert rpm to .deb
[06:29] <nalioth> morrow: it's not advised, if one knows how to compile
[06:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell EauTisse about checkinstall
[06:29] <EauTisse> ok, thx for all the good tips
[06:30] <morrow> nalioth: if one knows how to compile, he wouldn't start searching for a rpm. :)
[06:30] <callie> i know how to compile morrow i choose not to
[06:31] <mips> Hi
[06:31] <mips> Is Flight CD 2 a live cd or install CD for Dapper ???
[06:32] <nalioth> morrow: some times quick and easy is a strong attraction
[06:33] <nalioth> mips: you can get it both ways
[06:33] <mips> nliotg: Where do I download it from ? Want to give it a bash
[06:33] <nalioth> morrow: using rpms and other non-ubuntu binary packages can cause problems
[06:34] <nalioth> mips: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <mips> Thanks
[06:36] <EauTisse> morrow: I also know how to compile ... did that with the NVidia drivers ....
[06:36] <EauTisse> morrow: I just don't see the point if there's a shortcut
[06:36] <nalioth> EauTisse: your "rpm shortcut" can cause severe problems for ubuntu
[06:37] <EauTisse> ubotu: thanks for the PM
[06:37] <ubotu> pas de quoi, EauTisse
[06:38] <EauTisse> pile poil ;-)
[06:41] <kakei> hi guys i install kubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu but i can't go to KDE
[06:42] <bhna> kakei: change the session in your gdm login screen to kde.
[06:43] <nalioth> bhna: that is not the problem
[06:43] <nalioth> kakei: at your login, click 'sessions' and select "kde"
[06:44] <kakei> nalioth i did that but
[06:44] <kakei> it open the KDE normal screen and them GNOME o.O
[06:44] <nalioth> then something isn't right
[06:45] <bhna> nalioth: ? i wrote the same
[06:45] <kakei> how can i check whats missin
[06:45] <nalioth> bhna: you wrote to change the window mangler
[06:45] <nalioth> kakei: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:46] <kakei> didnt dowload anythin nalioht
[06:46] <nalioth> kakei: didnt fix anything, either?
[06:46] <kakei> no
[06:46] <bhna> nalioth: you wrote click session an d select kde i wrote change the session in your gdm login screen. thats the same.
[06:46] <nalioth> ok then "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"
[06:47] <kakei> done
[06:47] <nalioth> 11:42 < bhna> kakei: change the session in your gdm login screen to kde    <<<< this confuses me, i'm not sure what other users think
[06:47] <kakei> hm wait
[06:47] <kakei> lemme try again
[06:48] <kakei> u know the KDE Login screen? well i see it, and then doesnt start to charge KDE it start to charge Gnome
[06:51] <kakei> noirequus :  know the KDE Login screen? well i see it, and then doesnt start to charge KDE it start to charge Gnome
[06:51] <noirequus> kakei: i'm lost atm, and have business in the world of flesh.
[06:52] <bhna> noirequus: "at login klick session" is better? wich login? loginmanager login at console ... ok so long. thank you for your comments.
[06:54] <kkathman> kakei: at the login screen, is there a selection under "sessions" for KDE?
[06:55] <tvon> bhna: I don't have time to help you, but there should be a 'session' button with a menu to let you select kde or gnome
[06:55] <kkathman> tvon: right
[06:55] <freelove> whats the command to set root password?
[06:55] <kkathman> typically at any one point you have a "default" session
[06:56] <bhna> tvon: it's kakei's problem
[06:56] <tvon> I might have said that to the wrong person, I'm not entirely paying attention here
[06:56] <kkathman> freelove: you dont really need to use the root in ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:56] <tvon> bhna: ah, sorry about that
[06:56] <bhna> tvon: no problem ;-)
[06:56] <tvon> for ##!@##$ sake dont give root a password
[06:56] <tvon> k, seriously, back to other things
[06:57] <freelove> kkathman: i know that....but i need it for my brother's account.......i cant make him sudoer or he'll spoil my system!
[06:57] <kkathman> yes thats the sole cause to major problems in a linux install
[06:57] <_admin> exit
[06:57] <kkathman> use sudo on your account
[06:58] <freelove> kkathman: but sometimes when he's running the pc, ive to log him out, then log myself in to change something!!
[06:58] <kkathman> if you use sudo at the cli, or kdesu in KDE, you can do ANYTHING the root account can
[06:58] <kkathman> thats fine...just use sudo
[06:58] <freelove> kkathman: i KNOW that!! but i cant give sudo privileges to my bro........with his password he'll wreak havoc!!
[06:59] <kkathman> then dont
[06:59] <kkathman> why would he need to be in the sudoers file then :)
[06:59] <Snake__> _nano_: you said you got conky working??
[06:59] <freelove> kkathman: then what are u suggesting?
[06:59] <kkathman> educate him
[06:59] <_nano_> Snake__: yup ! even the acpi temp is working now :D
[06:59] <_nano_> Snake__: thanks for the tip off :D
[07:00] <freelove> kkathman: &^%#@%#@#@#%@!#%@!%#@%#&@^%#&@^#&@^ ur not undertsanding my problem!
[07:00] <Snake__> _nano_: is it embedded into your background??
[07:00] <_nano_> Snake__: yeah?
[07:00] <Snake__> Like mine looks like its part of the background, and I cant exit it or anything
[07:00] <_nano_> you run it from console right?
[07:00] <Snake__> Ya
[07:00] <_nano_> you could kill the process
[07:01] <Snake__> It doesnt work
[07:01] <Snake__> oh there it goes
[07:01] <freelove> plz will no one help me? often i want to install stuff for my bro through his account but can't!
[07:01] <Snake__> well how do I get it to run in a window??
[07:01] <tvon> freelove: What's your problem exactly, beyond setting roots password?
[07:02] <Snake__> _nano_: never mind I got it
[07:03] <freelove> tvon: look.....my bro has a non-sudo account.....he knows his passwd....now often i want to do things while STILL being in his account...how to do this??
[07:03] <kkathman> freelove - listen to me... if you need "root" priviledges, you need only prefix the command with "sudo"
[07:03] <kkathman> freelove: su works...su to his name and enter his password
[07:03] <kkathman> then you can "be him"
[07:03] <tvon> freelove: if you use the terminal you can su to your account and sudo from there
[07:03] <kkathman> then su back to your name
[07:04] <kkathman> right
[07:04] <kkathman> how is this so hard?
[07:04] <freelove> tvon: how? plz explain...
[07:04] <kkathman> sudo gives you root access to any command
[07:04] <kkathman> you dont HAVE to su to root
[07:04] <tvon> freelove: "su username" will let you become the user "username"
[07:04] <kkathman> thats the beauty :)
[07:04] <kkathman> tvon: which we've already explained
[07:05] <freelove> phew! THANKS! tvon & kkathman
[07:05] <tvon> freelove: np
[07:05] <kkathman> LeeJunFan:  :)
[07:05] <tvon> kkathman: I think he missed something in using su to get to another user and not root, thats all.
[07:05] <LeeJunFan> kkathman!
[07:05] <kkathman> tvon I guess so :)
[07:05] <tvon> another problem solved by the justice league of kubuntites
[07:05] <kkathman> Hey LeeJunFan are you up on current hardware/CPUS ??
[07:06] <kkathman> or is anyone?
[07:06] <Snake__> Wheres its config file now..
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: not really. I've been a laptop guy for the last 6 or so years, haven't been building much of anything myself.
[07:06] <tvon> laptop cpus maybe
[07:06] <kkathman> ahh ok
[07:06] <freelove> now for some objective talk;).......kde is so buggy....especally when i log out or shut down!
[07:06] <kkathman> freelove: not for me at all
[07:06] <Snake__> Shut down here
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> freelove: how so? not for me.
[07:06] <kkathman> mine is solid as a rock
[07:07] <freelove> or is it with kubuntu? i upgraded to 3.5......
[07:07] <Snake__> My PC does not like to shutdown
[07:07] <Snake__> or restart
[07:07] <tvon> freelove: maybe your brother broke something :)
[07:07] <kkathman> lol tvon
[07:07] <freelove> lol
[07:07] <freelove> no he cant
[07:07] <tvon> I'l bet he knows your password :-D
[07:07] <freelove> he doesnt
[07:07] <freelove> ;D
[07:07] <kkathman> freelove: can you please define "buggy"  what is it specifically doing?
[07:08] <tvon> freelove: fyi, if you proclaim large groups of software as 'buggy' without giving detail... well, some people get a little sensitive about it and might get annoyed
[07:08] <freelove> in kde 3.5, when i shut down it tells me "cannot talk to klauncher" and ive to press OK then it quits.......
[07:08] <freelove> tvon: right..will be careful;)
[07:08] <kkathman> ahhhhhh well, theres the 1st problem
[07:08] <kkathman> KDE 3.5
[07:09] <kkathman> there are some instabilities in 3.5 that cause it to not work correctly with some applications
[07:09] <freelove> kkathman: is kde 3.5 buggy or kubuntu's packages for it are?
[07:09] <kkathman> this isnt because 3.5 is unstable, but because many applications havent caught up with it
[07:10] <kkathman> LeeJunFan is an expert with 3.5, and apparently has a flawless implementation and might could help you diagnose the problem.
[07:10] <freelove> kkathman: btw leejunfan is a nice nick:D
[07:10] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: hah.
[07:10] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: you know what leejunfan is?
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: not many people do.
[07:11] <kkathman> LeeJunFan:  told me the other day that running 3.5 is basically a matter of knowledge of the system (which I do not have because I dont run 3.5)
[07:12] <freelove> hmm.....i shouldnt have upgraded:(
[07:12] <kkathman> yes I am aware of who LeeJunFan is
[07:12] <kkathman> freelove: but he might be able to help you
[07:13] <kkathman> since he's tackled all these integration points
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: it's not that I've tackled them so much as I appear to have some type of immunity :)
[07:13] <freelove> LeeJunFan: can u solve my shutting down problem plz?
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> freelove: what is or isn't it doing when you shut down?
[07:13] <kkathman> Lee Jun Fan, btw - Bruce Lee
[07:14] <freelove> when i shut down it tells me "cannot talk to klauncher" and ive to press OK then it quits.......
[07:16] <Snake__> How do you save config files?
[07:16] <Snake__> what do you save them as
[07:16] <freelove> LeeJunFan: when i shut down it tells me "cannot talk to klauncher" and ive to press OK then it quits.......
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> freelove: perhaps a file in your /tmp or /var/tmp dirs has the wrong permissions and you can't talk to dcop server.
[07:18] <freelove> LeeJunFan: hmm..so how to fix this quickly?
[07:19] <LeeJunFan> freelove: sudo chown -R [username]  /var/tmp/kdecache-[username]  && sudo chown -R [username]  /tmp/kde-[username]  && chown -R [username]  /tmp/ksocket-[username] 
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> freelove: substitute [username]  with the username you normally log in as.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> also - missing sudo in last one. put sudo before last chown -R
[07:21] <freelove> LeeJunFan: WOW! THANKS!
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> freelove: well, if it works :)
[07:22] <LeeJunFan> freelove: that will make sure all of kde's tmp files are owned by your user instead of root in the event that it somehow got messed in the past by possibly running a KDE app with sudo, using sudo for kde apps is bad btw, because this kind of thing can happen.
[07:24] <freelove> LeeJunFan: i very frequently use the command kdesu konqueror.....anything wrong with that?
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> freelove: that's how you are supposed to do it to avoid a permissions problem.
[07:25] <freelove> LeeJunFan: hmm...okie:D
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> freelove: you might also want to make sure all your $HOME files are owned properly by your user by running 'sudo chown -R [username]  /home/[username] '
[07:26] <LeeJunFan> well, I'm off to go climb a 100' tower with loose guy wires, so maybe I'll be back later. :)
[07:31] <seth_k|lappy> Community Council meeting 20:00 GMT
[07:32] <kkathman> seth_k|lappy: hey!  Community Council?
[07:33] <seth_k|lappy> kkathman, yup
[07:35] <seth_k|lappy> in #ubuntu-meeting -- see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[07:36] <slow-motion> bbl
[07:36] <eXistenZ> hey, is it recommended to use automatix?
[07:36] <seth_k|lappy> not really
[07:37] <seth_k|lappy> we have reports of it breaking systems
[07:37] <seth_k|lappy> but ymmv, i heard he switched it to a sudo system
[07:37] <eXistenZ> I see
[07:38] <sampan> original automatix definitely messed up a bunch of little things on my first breezy install
[07:38] <seth_k|lappy> but i know of at least two people that had to reinstall Ubuntu after automatix got through with them
[07:38] <sampan> seth, *nod* make that three :X
[07:38] <eXistenZ> I see
[07:38] <eXistenZ> seth_k|lappy, is it safe as well to enable backports?
[07:39] <seth_k|lappy> eXistenZ, yes, that's safer than automatix, because it's an official Ubuntu project. I do some backports myself.
[07:39] <dewdude> why is it when i try to install beep plugins....Adept always says the action is BREAK (install)
[07:39] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: later
[07:39] <seth_k|lappy> see ya robotgeek
[07:40] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, that means some dependencies are unmet... where are you getting the plugins? right out of an official repo?
[07:40] <dewdude> yes
[07:40] <dewdude> i believe
[07:40] <dewdude> i think
[07:40] <dewdude> lemme check
[07:41] <dewdude> actually
[07:41] <eXistenZ> seth_k|lappy, are there any better codecs for wmv/mp3 than w32codecs?
[07:41] <dewdude> probably not
[07:41] <vbgunz> networking for wireless cards do not work in Kubuntu Dapper Flight 2 huh?
[07:41] <dewdude> i think they're coming from the rarewares repository
[07:41] <dewdude> lemme remove that and try again
[07:42] <seth_k|lappy> eXistenZ, nope, that's what ya get
[07:42] <Borszczuk> anyone can give me a hint how to make vanilla kernel 'make install' to use GRUB instead of LILO?
[07:42] <dewdude> ok, that was my problem
[07:42] <dewdude> lovely
[07:42] <eXistenZ> seth_k|lappy, do you use inetd or xientd?
[07:43] <dewdude> now i get to figure out what these plugins needed so i can pull them from rarewares
[07:43] <seth_k|lappy> inetd
[07:44] <dewdude> seth_k|lappy, thanks..i forgot i added that one repository
[07:45] <seth_k|lappy> dewdude, np... be careful when adding extra repos
[07:46] <dewdude> i know
[07:46] <dewdude> the rarewares i had on another system that helped me with a lot of music stuff
[07:46] <dewdude> i'm just having fun getting all my formats to work
[07:46] <dewdude> poor XMMS wouldn't load from my music drive, at all
[07:48] <eXistenZ> seth_k|lappy, is it possible make realplayer support alsa, because I cannot play both xmms/realplayer at the same time
[07:49] <seth_k|lappy> eXistenZ, ew. why would you even use realplayer :P
[07:49] <dewdude> man...ubuntu is like riding a unicycle...you'll forget but it starts coming back to ya
[07:50] <eXistenZ> seth_k|lappy, how do you open ram files?
[07:50] <dewdude> why would you play BOTH at the same time?
[07:52] <eXistenZ> dewdude, I'm not talking only about realplayer, there is another dictionary program with pronounciation which sometimes I use while listening to songs, so it's  just annoying when you keep stopping songs just to listen to words.
[07:52] <Snake__> !mp3
[07:52] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[07:52] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <Snake__> Doesn't bmp support MP3 Out of the box?
[07:53] <dewdude> ahhh
[07:53] <dewdude> that makes some sense
[07:53] <dewdude> did you try using ALSA with full duplex
[07:54] <eXistenZ> dewdude, what audio server is installed/used in kubuntu?
[07:54] <dewdude> i've got like
[07:54] <dewdude> several
[07:54] <dewdude> i use ALSA
[07:54] <dewdude> came installed
[07:55] <dewdude> OSS came installed too
[07:55] <eXistenZ> dewdude, these are not audio servers, I mean jack/arts
[07:55] <dewdude> oh
[07:55] <dewdude> ok
[07:55] <dewdude> nvm then
[07:58] <Lacerta> i made just a fresh kubuntu install
[07:59] <Lacerta> the system still crashes if i sneeze or so...
[07:59] <Lacerta> i think it's the KDE
[07:59] <Snake__> Hey anyone on KDE 3.5, can you right click on your menu???
[07:59] <Snake__> Does it act like a left click
[08:00] <dewdude> no
[08:00] <Snake__> no what
[08:00] <dewdude> mine brings up a different menu with options
[08:00] <dewdude> move this panel
[08:00] <dewdude> edit
[08:00] <Snake__> Crap why doesnt mine...
[08:00] <Snake__> Ah I figure out why
[08:00] <Snake__> I locked the panels
[08:01] <dewdude> heh
[08:04] <Trazi> Hi
[08:05] <Trazi> Do you know if exists in kubuntu some similar to /etc/gentoo-release?
[08:05] <dewdude> hrmm
[08:05] <dewdude> /etc/debian-version
[08:07] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Hey, uh. Anyone have the time and knowledge to help me set up my shitty joystick?
[08:07] <Trazi> Thx :)
[08:08] <dewdude> np Trazi
[08:08] <dewdude> i don't even have a gameport on my PC
[08:08] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Dang
[08:08] <dewdude> oh..yes i do
[08:08] <dewdude> that's right
[08:08] <dewdude> i think i have two now that i look
[08:08] <Rogue_Jedi_X> I have it plugged in and...I'm lost
[08:09] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Same here. One on my motherboard and one on my sound card
[08:09] <dewdude> i think i just have the one
[08:09] <dewdude> the onboard sound lacks a port
[08:09] <dewdude> i don't even have onboard sound enabled
[08:09] <dewdude> speaking of sound
[08:09] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Likewise, that's why it's plugged into the sound card
[08:09] <dewdude> maybe i should try getting flac to work first
[08:09] <djk_> Rogue_Jedi_X: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55173&
[08:10] <djk_> maybe that helps
[08:10] <eXistenZ> dewdude, how can you enable w32codecs in amarok?
[08:11] <dewdude> i don't think you can
[08:11] <dewdude> because amarok uses gstreamer engine for playing media
[08:11] <Trazi> Gura
[08:11] <eXistenZ> aha
[08:11] <dewdude> dude..don't even ask me about sound right now
[08:11] <Trazi> Oooooop
[08:11] <Trazi> Sorry
[08:11] <dewdude> i'm having my own fun
[08:11] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: to get mp3s working fine with amaroK install gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg, or get the xine-engine
[08:12] <dewdude> apokryphos, ok....flac, wma, and monkeys audio for bmp...
[08:12] <dewdude> wma is a low priority
[08:12] <apokryphos> what?
[08:12] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, which do you prefer
[08:12] <dewdude> heh..nvm
[08:12] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: both
[08:13] <apokryphos> I tend to stick to the xine-engine though
[08:13] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, what audio server does kubuntu use?
[08:13] <Rogue_Jedi_X> djk_: It didn't work ;_;
[08:13] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: KDE uses aRts
[08:14] <dewdude> who was asking about having multiple sounds at once?
[08:14] <asraniel> is it just me or does kopete hae a problem with msn right now? or does msn have a problem? i cant login
[08:14] <apokryphos> asraniel: same here
[08:15] <apokryphos> it's a problem with the msn server, I imagine
[08:15] <asraniel> ok, i was already getting angry against my router... then i can relax :-)
[08:15] <dewdude> it usually is MSN
[08:15] <dewdude> they like to block third party clients
[08:15] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, I thought it uses jack
[08:16] <apokryphos> nope
[08:16] <apokryphos> dewdude: and no, I doubt it's that this time
[08:16] <djk_> Rogue_Jedi_X: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75063.html try this then..one of them worked for me.
[08:16] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, is it possible to use multiple sounds at the same time with arts? or is it better to use alsa with xmms?
[08:16] <Rogue_Jedi_X> djk_: Thanks
[08:17] <dewdude> oh
[08:17] <dewdude> i'm about ready to wipe this partition and start over
[08:17] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: (i) why would you use xmms? (ii) you can use gstreamer engine with alsa dmix mixing for multiple sounds
[08:17] <apokryphos> !dmix
[08:17] <ubotu> somebody said dmix was at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:18] <apokryphos> though, as I said, I stick to xine for media (audio and video)
[08:18] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, what if I have a program that doesn't support alsa and runs sounds?
[08:18] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, what is the name of the xine-engine pacakge
[08:18] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: for amarok, it's amarok-xine
[08:18] <apokryphos> I presume the sounds would play fine; alsa wouldn't be hogging the sound server
[08:20] <dewdude> does xine support flac and other odd formats?
[08:20] <_nano_> after upgrading to 3.5 my kaffeine player shows "No URI handler implemented for" errors..anyone else got this?
[08:21] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, I can find only gstreamer in the engines for amarok after I Installed xine-engine
[08:21] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: restart amarok
[08:21] <apokryphos> dewdude: not sure; you could ask Google
[08:21] <dewdude> yeah
[08:21] <dewdude> it doesn't look easy
[08:22] <dewdude> i'm thinking..i've been playing with packages too much
[08:22] <dewdude> and i think i broke some stuff
[08:22] <dewdude> i need to swap my video card out anyway
[08:22] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, well, still, I cannot find it in the list =/
[08:22] <dewdude> i'm going to reformat the partition and start fresh
[08:22] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, do I need to install any other packages other than amarok and xine-amarok
[08:22] <dewdude> that's mah plan
[08:22] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: amarok-xine is *definitely* installed?
[08:22] <dewdude> bye
[08:23] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: dpkg -l|grep amarok-xine   ..gives?
[08:24] <eXistenZ> ii  amarok-xine                            1.3.1-0ubuntu4                     xine engine for the amaroK audio player
[08:24] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Someone mentioned crying earlier? I think I might join them
[08:24] <apokryphos> dated version, but it should be ok. Hm.
[08:26] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: it might be worth trying out the latest version, especially since there are kubuntu packs out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[08:27] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Woo! Fixed it! Thanks, djk_! That second forum post did it for me
[08:27] <djk_> :)
[08:28] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, does the xine engine use alsa
[08:28] <apokryphos> aha, messenger is down.  http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx
[08:28] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Vegastrike, here I come
[08:28] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: it can
[08:28] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, do you use gaim for the messenger
[08:29] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: no, gaim sucks :)
[08:29] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, amsn?
[08:30] <apokryphos> Kopete of course =)
[08:30] <eXistenZ> eh
[08:30] <apokryphos> it's the best out there
[08:30] <apokryphos> especially now with quality webcam support :D
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking whether gcc is blacklisted... no
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking whether g++ supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... no
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking whether gcc supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... yes
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking whether g++ supports -Wundef... no
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking whether g++ supports -Wno-long-long... no
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking whether g++ supports -Wnon-virtual-dtor... no
[08:31] <maxmanbe> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[08:31] <maxmanbe> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[08:31] <maxmanbe> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:31] <maxmanbe> help :'(
[08:32] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, now it works, but when I click on a song it stops immediately
[08:32] <apokryphos> maxmanbe: don't paste in here please. Check the /topic
[08:32] <apokryphos> maxmanbe: install build-essential
[08:32] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: you installed the new amarok and amarok-xine package?
[08:32] <maxmanbe> ow *blush*
[08:32] <maxmanbe> thanks
[08:33] <robotgeek> hey apokryphos
[08:33] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: back
[08:33] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, me too, nice job :P
[08:33] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, yep, they were installed automatically
[08:33] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, the xine works, just the songs stop immediately when I try the play them
[08:34] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: any error message at the bottom-left of amarok player?
[08:34] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: you installed akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad?
[08:34] <apokryphos> I think the former might still be needed for some obscure reason
[08:35] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, works now :)
[08:35] <eXistenZ> thank you so much
[08:36] <apokryphos> cool
[08:36] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, my surround is working :p
[08:38] <apokryphos> =)
[08:38] <kkathman> hey apokryphos :)
[08:38] <kkathman> apokryphos: Happy Holidays to you :)
[08:38] <apokryphos> hey
[08:38] <apokryphos> you too =)
[08:39] <eXistenZ> kkathman, is Merry Christmas forbidden or what?
[08:39] <kkathman> Not that I know of :)
[08:39] <kkathman> its just not Christmas yet :)
[08:44] <maxmanbe> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/472091
[08:46] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, the program I'm telling you about uses these modules, what most likely will it be using: libasound.so.2.0.0, libfaad.so, libmad,so , libvlcplugin.so
[08:46] <apokryphos> eh?
[08:47] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, I got a dictionary program here which uses these files to produce sounds, is it possible to let it work concurrently with amarok
[08:48] <angasule> eXistenZ: which program?
[08:48] <bhsx> hi, I installed samba so that I could setup network shares to my XP box.  i have a few shares now, but when i try to access them, i keep getting kicked-back to the login prompt, any ideas?
[08:48] <apokryphos> it should
[08:49] <angasule> bhsx: have you placed the login & password for the XP box correctly in the samba config?
[08:50] <bhsx> that's what i'm checking now
[08:50] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, not really, even after I try to play sounds, amarok stops the load mp3 files
[08:50] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: when you're using xine?
[08:51] <angasule> eXistenZ: where did you get it? I don't see it in universe or multiverse
[08:53] <angasule> oh, apokryphos was that guy, eXistenZ , what's the name of the dictionary program that spells out? I'm very interested in it
[08:57] <angasule> great :/
[08:58] <bhsx> ok i did a 'sudo systemsettings' and would like to configure samba, which i just installed... can anyone lend a hand?
[08:58] <bhsx> because something's wrong...  i can't login to the shares
[08:59] <apokryphos> angasule: no idea, but I'm sure you could use kde's accessibility features (ktts) to get it to spell out any word for you
[09:00] <angasule> apokryphos: works for any language?
[09:01] <apokryphos> probably not
[09:01] <angasule> bhsx: go to System (menu next to the k-menu)->Settings
[09:01] <angasule> bhsx: then go to Local Network Browsing
[09:01] <bhsx> i'm there
[09:02] <angasule> where it says 'default user name' and 'default password' input your winXP login and password
[09:02] <jahshua> i would just like to say
[09:02] <jahshua> i love kubuntu.
[09:02] <jahshua> thanks
[09:02] <angasule> also, set the correct encoding (mine is iso 8859-1)
[09:02] <lascar> does anybody know where I can get azureus now that the original link for it in the repository is obsolete?
[09:02] <apokryphos> from their site
[09:02] <angasule> bhsx: after setting the login & pass, try accessing the XP shares again
[09:02] <apokryphos> jahshua: :)
[09:03] <bhsx> angasule: i'm trying to access the samba shares FROM XP
[09:03] <angasule> if a truck ran me over, I'd probably feel better, I need ice :(
[09:03] <angasule> bhsx: oopsie, sorry then, gimme a min, it's been a month since I set it up
[09:04] <rdfm> hi, are there any Qt/KDE maintainers on the channel?
[09:04] <angasule> bhsx: in settings, go to 'samba', check that the workgroup is the *same* than your winXP machine
[09:05] <angasule> rdfm: for that, you should go to #kde, btw, qt and kde are different things
[09:05] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, this is the dictionary I'm talking about: http://www.longman.com/dictionaries/support/ldoce_updated_support.html#m0
[09:06] <rdfm> angasule: thanks, I wanted to know why the ubuntu libqt4 packages are built without MNG support...
[09:06] <angasule> bhsx: also, set a name for your linux machine (short & easy to remember)
[09:06] <lascar> anybody?  please?
[09:06] <angasule> rdfm: no idea, try searching the kubuntu forums
[09:06] <rdfm> ok
[09:07] <angasule> lascar: go to azureus site, like apokryphos said?
[09:07] <rdfm> angasule: thanks :)
[09:07] <lascar> didn't see his message
[09:07] <lascar> besides, i've already done that
[09:07] <angasule> rdfm: you're welcome, sorry I wasn't much use
[09:07] <bhsx> angasule: how can i access that through sudo?
[09:08] <angasule> lascar: well, I don't know, I don't personally use azureus
[09:08] <kakei> hey anyone know how to remove the bold in the fonts in all windows?
[09:09] <lascar> oh, and while we're on the topic, how can i get java?
[09:09] <angasule> bhsx: access what? the samba config screen?
[09:09] <kakei> http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8515/snapshot13jk.png watch this out Look my Fonts all looks like they were with bold
[09:09] <lascar> don't get me wrong, i knew the answers to all these questions until the url in my modded repository for these utilities went down
[09:09] <bhsx> angasule: yes, that screen
[09:10] <angasule> lascar: there's a java virtual machine or two I can see in adept, are you looking for one in particular?
[09:10] <lascar> angasule: no, just a good, working one
[09:11] <angasule> bhsx: you can't access System->Settings directly? you're in the command line?
[09:11] <bhsx> i can from kicker... but it doesn't sudo
[09:12] <bhsx> i can start systemsettings from cli, but the samba module isnt' there
[09:12] <lascar> bhsx: it's in Kcontrol
[09:12] <angasule> bhsx: when you start it from the settings menu the samba window is all greyed out?
[09:13] <bhsx> yeah
[09:13] <lascar> whoops sorry, take that back
[09:13] <angasule> bhsx: put the cursor at the bottom of the samba config window, and resize the window, make it larger (drag it down)
[09:13] <dreumah> which repo can i get unrar from?
[09:13] <bhsx> but now i'm accessing it via kcontrol started throguh cli
[09:13] <dreumah> the non free one
[09:13] <angasule> bhsx: does the 'administrator mode' button show up now at the bottom?
[09:14] <bhsx> well, i bipassed that by loading kcontrol through Konsole
[09:15] <bhsx> i think it was the Share level access that needed ticking
[09:15] <bhsx> i'll check now
[09:15] <angasule> bhsx: I get the 'administration mode' button if I run kcontrol from konsole as well
[09:15] <angasule> bhsx: yes, probably
[09:16] <angasule> bhsx: check it's the same workgroup, share access level, then in the 'share' tab add the shares, if you haven't already
[09:17] <angasule> dreumah: multiverse, I think
[09:17] <dreumah> its not there
[09:17] <dreumah> i can only get unrar-free
[09:17] <dreumah> thats useless to me
[09:17] <dreumah> wait
[09:17] <dreumah> i dont have multiverse
[09:17] <angasule> dreumah: after adding multiverse you clicked on 'fetch updates'?
[09:18] <angasule> dreumah: add multiverse (but not backports, unless you want backports)
[09:18] <dreumah> how to i add this wickly i am in my repo options. using synaptics
[09:19] <dclindsay> is there a convenient bug reporting tool for dapper?
[09:19] <angasule> dreumah: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu (this is the URL)  distribution: breezy , components: multiverse
[09:20] <kkathman> dclindsay: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:20] <angasule> dreumah: I don't use synaptic, but adding that repository should be it
[09:21] <angasule> bhsx: is it working?
[09:21] <dreumah> thank you angasule
[09:21] <dreumah> its working
[09:21] <dclindsay> kkathman: ok, thanks
[09:21] <Hal9000> i have a problem with kmail, it keeps complaining endlessly that my imap server doesnt support TLS... but actually i set SSL! and it works with thunderbird...
[09:21] <Hal9000> waht could be the problem?
[09:22] <angasule> dreumah: you're welcome
[09:22] <dclindsay> is there a debian emacs package?
[09:22] <jahshua> hello
[09:22] <jahshua> anyone know if you can play .mp4 files with kaffien
[09:22] <jahshua> or amoRok
[09:22] <jahshua> video files
[09:22] <dclindsay> or can the debian emacs tools be modified for ubuntu/kubuntu
[09:23] <angasule> dclindsay: kubuntu has emacs
[09:23] <kkathman> dclindsay: if there is a deb, perhaps, but hard to say definitively
[09:23] <angasule> !!restricted_formats
[09:23] <ubotu> angasule: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:23] <angasule> bah, I can't remember the command
[09:23] <kkathman> !restricted
[09:23] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:23] <angasule> jahshua: yes, search for 'restricted format' kubuntu in google
[09:24] <dclindsay> ah, debian emacs has a very nice bug report tool
[09:24] <angasule> thanks, kkathman :)
[09:24] <kkathman> np
[09:24] <angasule> Hal9000: I think TLS and SSL are the same thing in that context? lemme check
[09:25] <angasule> Hal9000: nope, definitely two different things, since both are given as options heh
[09:26] <tvon>  they both relate to securing transmissions over the network but they're not the same thing
[09:27] <angasule> Hal9000: go to 'configure kmail', then go to 'accounts', select the server, check the properties and in the extras tab click on 'check what the server supports'
[09:30] <dante_> Im not too sure if this is more windows specifif than kubuntu.. but! Im trying to mount a share from my windows 2003 server machine to my kubuntu box. I have installed all the smbfs packages and disabled smb signing on the 2k3 server. Yet when i mount it successfully, i get permission denied when trying to ls or do anything to the mount
[09:30] <dante_> dmesg | tail has nothing apropiate
[09:30] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, in what resolution do you work
[09:31] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: 1280x1024
[09:31] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, I get only 60Hz in that mood =/ it's absurd
[09:31] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, how much do you get
[09:31] <apokryphos> same here, but that's why my monitor goes up to
[09:33] <dante_> Anyone have any ideas? Would using the CIFS module help at all?
[09:33] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, what ps viewer do you suggest
[09:33] <dante_> Had success with that on slackware
[09:34] <apokryphos> I don't use it
[09:36] <angasule> dante_: you seem to know what you're doing, but just for the sake of it, double check that reading permission is allowed for anonymous users (or just tell the samba client to use a windows login&pass when accessing it)
[09:37] <dante_> thanks, but i have tried that an no success =(
[09:37] <DarkMaul> ping : Tm_T
[09:38] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, msn is still down =/
[09:38] <angasule> dante_: you've not been able to access shares even with a set login&pass?
[09:38] <DarkMaul> hmm its back up over here
[09:39] <angasule> eXistenZ: what dictionary app do you use that spells out words?
[09:39] <eXistenZ> angasule, Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English 4th edition updated
[09:40] <dante_> angasule: Yup thats right
[09:41] <angasule> eXistenZ: hmm, is that free?
[09:41] <eXistenZ> angasule, nope
[09:41] <eXistenZ> angasule, but it supports linux, it's the best dictionary I've ever used.
[09:41] <angasule> eXistenZ: ouchies, well, I'll have to depend on native speakers then, thanks :)
[09:41] <angasule> eXistenZ: btw, what languages are you studying?
[09:42] <eXistenZ> angasule, 3 languages: Arabic, Hebrew & English.
[09:42] <angasule> dante_: maybe the guys at #samba can help?
[09:42] <dante_> Good call, I will ask =) ty
[09:42] <angasule> dante_: not blowing you off, but I'm merely a user, only have winxp here
[09:42] <angasule> good luck
[09:43] <angasule> eXistenZ: nice, and your native language?
[09:43] <eXistenZ> angasule, the first one.
[09:43] <pedingto> Heyo folks, I've got an issue with the maximum resolution I can set my desktop to.  The max it lists is 800x600, where I know it can do 1024x768, I tried to do the fix that worked for me in an earlier ubuntu distro. But no luck..any advice?
[09:43] <angasule> eXistenZ: you may find www.unilang.org interesting, it has irc and voice chat as well as forum and the usual web stuff
[09:44] <eXistenZ> angasule, thanks :)
[09:45] <angasule> pedingto: while installing, did you check the box for 1024x768?
[09:45] <pedingto> Yes, and I've also run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after install as well.  But that ends up forcing 640x480, and I have to manually edit xorg.conf to even get it to go to 800x600.
[09:46] <andyjstormont> how do i use this thing?
[09:46] <angasule> andyjstormont: depends on what 'this thing' is
[09:46] <andyjstormont> irc
[09:46] <lascar> angasule: what were those 2 JVMS you mentioned?
[09:47] <angasule> andyjstormont: well, you're already using it :)
[09:47] <andyjstormont> can you guys help me to install kde?
[09:48] <angasule> lascar: don't know, I just wrote 'java virtual machine' in adept and it showed a couple, two entries are about mono, and one is sablevm
[09:48] <bhsx> hmmm... i still keep coming back to the login prompt
[09:48] <lascar> you mean upgrade
[09:48] <DewDude> has anyone gotten monkeys audio to work with bmp?
[09:48] <bam_> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[09:49] <bam_> or is that kde-desktop
[09:49] <angasule> pedingto: hmm, don't really know, try the forums or maybe a more specific channel
[09:49] <pedingto> lol - I've been hunting forums all day so far :)  Do you know of a more specific channel?
[09:49] <angasule> pedingto: #xorg ?
[09:50] <pedingto> *shakes head* Thanks, I think I've lost my mind already :)
[09:50] <andyjstormont> when i try to install the kde stuff using the instructions on the wiki its says cant find packages, wtf do i do know?
[09:50] <bhsx> will 'sudo apt-get upgrade kubuntu-desktop' upgrade to 3.5?
[09:50] <angasule> pedingto: heh I hate x configuration, it's a pain :)
[09:50] <bam_> you tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[09:50] <sampan> andyjstormont  have you enabled all the repositories?
[09:51] <andyjstormont> how do I do that?
[09:51] <angasule> andyjstormont: have you added the universe and multiverse repositories?
[09:51] <sampan> !repositories
[09:51] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[09:52] <sampan> andyjstormont  read the link ubotu posted ... or "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" (at CLI) and then remove the # from lines containing "universe" and "multiverse"
[09:52] <lascar> angasule: what about azureus? know anything about installing it?
[09:52] <angasule> sampan: careful, when I installed breezy, the lines containing multiverse also contained backports
[09:52] <pedingto> angasule: I had the same issue under hoary ubuntu, but the manual editing of xorg.conf fixed it.  But it doesn't seem to this time around.
[09:53] <angasule> lascar: nope, sorry
[09:53] <angasule> pedingto: that's very odd, because xorg is xorg
[09:53] <angasule> !azureus
[09:53] <ubotu> well, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:54] <bam_> anyone know where to cange the ntp server that the scripts call to sync the time
[09:54] <pedingto> This is why I am confused :)
[09:54] <sampan> angasule, i think there are backports available now anyway
[09:54] <angasule> lascar: maybe that works?
[09:54] <sampan> not 100% sure though
[09:54] <pedingto> Though I do have an odd intel video card.
[09:54] <angasule> pedingto: one of the integrated ones?
[09:54] <lascar> i need new backports
[09:55] <lascar> the old ones are, well...obsolete
[09:55] <pedingto> Yup
[09:55] <pedingto> I'm running a dell laptop *shame*
[09:55] <jjesse> nothing wrong w/ being on a dell laptop :)
[09:55] <jjesse> just depends on how old it is
[09:55] <pedingto> Coming up for two years now ;)
[09:56] <sampan> heh, i have an old p3 1 gigahertz dell laptop that's running hoary great
[09:56] <angasule> pedingto: well, mention that to the xorg guys when you ask for help, I think the intel drivers are all open, they just bark at you if you use closed drivers like nvidia's or ati's
[09:56] <pedingto> I tried installing and running the 855resolution but it didn't seem to fix it.
[09:56] <angasule> sampan: that's old? I still have a 286 (ok, it's in the closet and I gutted it, but we have a functional 486 dx 66)
[09:57] <angasule> dx2 66, sorry
[09:57] <paines> hi
[09:57] <angasule> hi, paines
[09:57] <sampan> angasule  lol ... that almost belongs in a museum ;)
[09:57] <angasule> lascar: did you check the azureus link above?
[09:57] <paines> anyone tried to "optimize" and install an package with apt-build ?
[09:58] <angasule> sampan: a friend yesterday was telling me about ZX81 and powerful stuff like that, I told her she should sell that on ebay and make a nice profit
[09:58] <lascar> hmmm...
[10:02] <bam_> zx81??
[10:02] <angasule> bam_: old stuff
[10:02] <bam_> sounds like it
[10:03] <bam_> wasnt that released in like early 80's
[10:04] <angasule> bam_: about that time, certainly before I remember
[10:04] <bam_> i think I saw one but i was only 12yrs old or so
[10:05] <bam_> its amazing though, I have a pda thats more powerful/versatile than my fors computer
[10:05] <paines> i had one
[10:05] <bam_> *first
[10:05] <DewDude> i'm at wits end now
[10:05] <paines> and a sinvlair spectrum 48k
[10:05] <bam_> I remember those
[10:05] <angasule> bam_: there are wrist watches more powerful than my first computer
[10:06] <bam_> haha
[10:06] <angasule> heck, I've been thinking of modifying my whole home to use automatic doors & lights
[10:06] <bam_> use a plc
[10:06] <angasule> that was sci-fi stuff just a couple of decades ago
[10:06] <bam_> with a serial interface, make some custo software
[10:07] <bam_> big time
[10:07] <angasule> I'll have to write some very custom 486 software (I can't get it to run linux :/ )
[10:07] <bam_> then again someone said we would have flying cars by the year 2000
[10:07] <Baner> Hello People
[10:08] <angasule> if I could get a fan-less PSU, it'd be completely silent
[10:08] <Baner> I need some help with kubuntu
[10:08] <andyjstormont> ok, im still having trouble with this.  I have to enable the kubuntu repositorys, how do I do that?
[10:08] <angasule> bam_: I fear the day flying cars become available, people can't drive in 2D, can you imagine 3D?
[10:08] <angasule> Baner: be more specific please :)
[10:08] <bam_> lol
[10:08] <angasule> !repositories
[10:08] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[10:09] <Baner> People here's my problem, i have installed kubuntu and when there is loading a kde screen only the mouse appears and nothing happens farther
[10:09] <angasule> andyjstormont: look at that link ubotu mentioned
[10:09] <Baner> Plz
[10:09] <Baner> i want to become linuxoud
[10:09] <Baner> ;)
[10:09] <angasule> bam_: do you remembe the TV show 'beyond 2000'?
[10:09] <angasule> Baner: what programs do that?
[10:09] <Baner> i dont know
[10:10] <Baner> i now that i have installed only
[10:10] <Baner> kubuntu and when it is loading
[10:10] <angasule> Baner: are you on kubuntu now?
[10:10] <Baner> appears only a mouse cursor
[10:10] <Baner> nope
[10:10] <Baner> i cant load it
[10:10] <Baner> x
[10:11] <angasule> Baner: when you use ubuntu, do you get to the login screen where you write your name and password?
[10:11] <Baner> no
[10:11] <Baner> only the mouse
[10:11] <Baner> and nothing
[10:11] <Baner> happens
[10:12] <angasule> you don't get any error messages when booting?
[10:12] <Baner> i havent seen any
[10:12] <Baner> it is happening
[10:12] <Baner> very fast
[10:13] <Baner> i even cant exit X
[10:13] <Baner> i need to restart my pc by pressing the button
[10:14] <lascar> angasule: and we're good to go
[10:14] <lascar> thanx
[10:14] <igorayeb> anyone had a problem whith instalation of EtherApe
[10:15] <angasule> Baner: obviously kubuntu hasn't installed well, maybe you should search in the kubuntu forums
[10:15] <Baner> how must i describe my problem
[10:15] <Baner> to search for
[10:17] <angasule> Baner: hmm, not sure, check for installation problemas related to X or KDE
[10:22] <dante_> angasule: cifs fixed it =)
[10:23] <mh166> hi @ all
[10:23] <mh166> I got a problem:
[10:23] <angasule> dante_: good :)
[10:23] <angasule> mh166: we all do :)
[10:24] <mh166> ^^ of course
[10:24] <mh166> I'd like to change my default window manager from xfce to fluxbox
[10:24] <mh166> I already tried it by editing ~/.xsession, /etc/rc.conf and ~/.xinitrc... nothing did it...
[10:24] <DewDude> heh
[10:24] <mh166> has anyone an idea what could work?
[10:25] <eXistenZ> !skype
[10:25] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:27] <mh166> no ideas?
[10:27] <Baner> people
[10:27] <Baner> what exactly is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[10:27] <angasule> mh166: looking for info
[10:28] <mh166> thx :=
[10:28] <mh166> :)
[10:28] <angasule> Baner: ubuntu is gnome-based, kubuntu is kde-based
[10:28] <dante_> kde
[10:28] <Baner> angasule i have problem with kubuntu
[10:28] <Baner> maybe
[10:28] <Riddell> robotgeek: are you responsible?
[10:28] <Baner> i must install ubuntu
[10:28] <Baner> with gnome
[10:28] <DewDude> no
[10:28] <DewDude> you can install ubuntu with kde
[10:28] <DewDude> it's called kubuntu
[10:28] <Riddell> mh166: it depends on what login manager you are using
[10:28] <robotgeek> Riddell: yes
[10:28] <Riddell> robotgeek: want to be an op?
[10:28] <Baner> DewDude i have problems with kd
[10:29] <DewDude> Baner: ok then...use ubuntu
[10:29] <DewDude> or
[10:29] <robotgeek> Riddell: sure, i am a #ubuntu-nun member
[10:29] <DewDude> if you have kubuntu installed... sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <Baner> i cant get even in console
[10:29] <robotgeek> usually hang around with nalioth, but he isn't here all the time
[10:29] <Riddell> robotgeek: ok, I'll make you an op if you get all the newbies to use kubuntu :)
[10:29] <DewDude> just black screen on boot?
[10:29] <Baner> green with mouse
[10:29] <Baner> i cant exit from there
[10:29] <Baner> to console
[10:29] <robotgeek> Riddell: i'm looking to package some stuff for kubuntu too
[10:29] <Baner> none reaction
[10:30] <DewDude> you tried alt-f2 and stuff
[10:30] <Baner> yep
[10:30] <Riddell> robotgeek: ooh, cool
[10:30] <DewDude> wow
[10:30] <Riddell> robotgeek: #kubuntu-devel if you have queries on that or want to poke me to review
[10:30] <mh166> Riddell how can i find out, which i'm using? oO
[10:30] <robotgeek> Riddell: thanks, will definetly do :)
[10:30] <DewDude> i haven't been on ubuntu in months..i'm a bit rusty
[10:30] <DewDude> cuz i was still learning when i quit
[10:31] <DewDude> and even then i was on PPC
[10:31] <Baner> =] 
[10:31] <DewDude> i'm having many of my own issues
[10:31] <DewDude> issues i never used to have on my PPC
[10:32] <Riddell> robotgeek: you're an op, use it wisely
[10:32] <DewDude> i've given up on them for the time being
[10:32] <robotgeek> Riddell: yes, will do. CoC rules
[10:32] <DewDude> take a step back...smoke a bowl...do some research
[10:33] <Riddell> mh166: at the login manager just change the session to start up whichever one you want and tell it to save as default
[10:33] <fr0g> hgmmm
[10:33] <robotgeek> be back later :)
[10:33] <mh166> well... actually i don't have any login manager...
[10:33] <mh166> this distro came on a mag-cd
[10:33] <mh166> and was preconfigured
[10:34] <angasule> mh166: it was kubuntu, but not the default config?
[10:34] <mh166> as soon as it boots up it starts into x with xfce as window manager and with the user "pcw" logged in by default
[10:35] <mh166> angasule seemingly, yes. It IS kubuntu (Kernel 2.6.x) but the configuration was already done by the magazine
[10:39] <mh166> no ideas? =/
[10:42] <seth_k|lappy> mh166, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:42] <seth_k|lappy> as a guess
[10:42] <mh166> "packed kdm isn't installed"
[10:43] <jahshua> hello i just installed flash with adept
[10:43] <jahshua> but it doesnt recognise the package name in console
[10:45] <seth_k|lappy> mh166, then sudo apt-get install kdm
[10:45] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, what package did you install? flashplayer-mozilla?
[10:46] <mh166> hmm... btw: where is the diff between aptitude and apt-get? a friend of mine told me to install packages using aptitude. Is it better, the same or whats the diff?
[10:46] <kkathman> mh166: makes really no difference
[10:46] <mh166> k
[10:46] <kkathman> sometimes, for unknown reasons, aptitude fails to locate packages in the repos..weird, but true
[10:47] <kkathman> aptitude tends to help out if you want to uninstall things
[10:47] <mh166> ahh, kay :)
[10:48] <mh166> hate it to install packages using this f***ing ISDN access -.-"
[10:48] <mh166> but hey: enough time for lots of coffees xD
[10:49] <mh166> hm... 30Megs... I guess I try it later...
[10:50] <mh166> Is there also a possibility without kdm or should I come back when it's installed?
[10:52] <jahshua> seth: i installed swf-player and macromedia and now i just installed libflash-mozplugin  i tried to run that one and it ditn recognise it either
[10:53] <mh166> kkathman ??
[10:53] <kkathman> yes?
[10:53] <mh166> Is there also a possibility without kdm or should I come back when it's installed?
[10:53] <kkathman> possibility for what?
[10:54] <mh166> changing the window manager... somehow...
[10:54] <kkathman> mh166: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[10:54] <kkathman> follow the exact steps and yer ready to go
[10:54] <kkathman> oops
[10:54] <kkathman> sorry
[10:54] <mh166> ^^
[10:54] <kkathman> lol got the right answer to the wrong person :)
[10:54] <kkathman> hehe
[10:55] <mh166> already wondered what a window manager had in common with XAMPP or LAMPP
[10:55] <kkathman> mh166: when you boot, your splash screen/login should have an option to change sessions
[10:55] <kkathman> in the lower left of the splash
[10:55] <jahshua> can someone tell me how to install flash please
[10:55] <jahshua> :(((
[10:56] <jahshua> i have it installed with adept but it wont run
[10:56] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, you need flashplayer-mozilla
[10:56] <jahshua> i installed that
[10:56] <kkathman> if you choose a session thats different than your current default, it will ask if you want to make that the default
[10:56] <mh166> as already said: there is neither a splash nor login screen or something alike... I get booted into xfce immediately after starting...
[10:56] <jahshua> libflash-mozplugin ?
[10:56] <seth_k|lappy> kkathman, we've been talking about that he doesn't have a login manager ;)
[10:56] <kkathman> mh166: hmm how did you install ubuntu then?
[10:56] <seth_k|lappy> kkathman, read up... he got a CD in a magazine
[10:56] <arkey> hola
[10:56] <kkathman> AHH
[10:57] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, flashplayer-mozilla
[10:57] <kkathman> sorry..thanks seth_k|lappy :)
[10:57] <seth_k|lappy> np kkathman, how are you today?
[10:57] <jahshua> i cant find it when i search
[10:57] <jahshua> i have unbiverse open
[10:57] <mh166> actually I didn't it's a VM from a computers magazine-cd
[10:57] <kkathman> okie dokie seth_k|lappy thanx
[10:57] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, it's in restricted
[10:57] <seth_k|lappy> iirc
[10:57] <seth_k|lappy> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[10:57] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[10:57] <seth_k|lappy> jahshua, multiverse
[10:58] <kkathman> mh166: was the CD an ubuntu cd?
[10:58] <kkathman> or some other linux?
[10:58] <seth_k|lappy> kkathman, it's a Kubuntu CD
[10:58] <kkathman> hmmm cant understand why it doesnt have a splash then
[10:58] <seth_k|lappy> kkathman, heavily customized
[10:58] <kkathman> yah I guess
[10:58] <kkathman> hmm
[10:59] <mh166> hm.. as already said: it is a completely ready-to-run VM for M$' VMWare
[10:59] <mh166> but uname -a tells me that it is a kubuntu distro
[10:59] <kkathman> mh166: I have no idea on VM
[10:59] <seth_k|lappy> mh166, I think you'd be safest just getting kdm and letting it set itself up
[11:00] <mh166> Hum... but I guess it shouldn't make a big difference wether kubuntu runs in a virtual machine or not
[11:00] <mh166> but okay... I'll install kdm
[11:00] <jahshua> seth i opened multiverse and i still cant see flashplayer-mozilla
[11:01] <mh166> but i guess I better do that on another day since now I have to learn some physics for tomorrows test paper ^^
[11:01] <mh166> good night (or what time is it with you? ;)
[11:01] <kkathman> Im not familiar enought to know where that kdm is set
[11:02] <kkathman> but you might could do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:02] <mh166> gute nacht leute
[11:02] <mh166> .. srry
[11:02] <mh166> wrong window ^^
[11:02] <mh166> gn8 guys (or whatever the clock may show ;)
[11:14] <RabidGoblin> !nvidia
[11:14] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:15] <Aven> how do you change themes?
[11:15] <Aven> can't find it anywhere
[11:16] <jahshua> can someone help me with a restricted area question
[11:19] <jahshua> i have all of my repositories updated and enabled universe and multiverse  and i cant sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer   it doesnt find mplayer ???
[11:20] <djk_> !info mozilla-mplayer
[11:20] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB
[11:22] <Aven> !theme
[11:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Aven
[11:22] <Aven> !themes
[11:23] <djk_> jahshua: you sure you updated after you enabled uni/multiverse? and you sure you spelt it correctly?
[11:24] <angasule_> I love coffee :D
[11:25] <kakei> hi , how do i check my KDE version
[11:25] <Aven> where is the "Appearance and look"?
[11:25] <Aven> can't find it in the "System"
[11:25] <Hobbsee> kakei: any kde program, help, about
[11:25] <djk_> in your system settings
[11:25] <djk_> if only you read what ubotu said..
[11:26] <jahshua> djk yes i did .
[11:26] <Aven> yeah, where's that at?
[11:28] <djk_> jahshua: and an apt-cache search mplayer doesn't mention mozilla-mplayer either?
[11:28] <Aven> telling me 'go to system settings' is like telling me to go to a country I've never been in before
[11:29] <jahshua> djk_ this is what it returned
[11:29] <jahshua> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[11:29] <djk_> Aven: click on that shiny K in the left corner on the bottom of your screen..
[11:30] <Aven> yes, there's "System"
[11:30] <Aven> but in it, I can't see any "Appearance and look"
[11:30] <djk_> Aven: and there's 'System Settings'
[11:30] <Aven> nope :\
[11:30] <djk_> yes
[11:31] <Aven> Do you want a screenshot? because there's no System Settings
[11:31] <djk_> sure
[11:31] <angasule_> Aven: in the bottom bar, next to the shiny K, there's another button that opens up a menu
[11:31] <jahshua> djk you see what that returned?
[11:32] <djk_> jahshua: yes, but it should return more.
[11:32] <jahshua> thats all it gave back
[11:32] <djk_> pastebin your sources.list
[11:32] <jahshua> i dont know what that means :/
[11:33] <jahshua> i know ther pastebin part
[11:33] <jahshua> but how do i see sources?
[11:33] <djk_> open /etc/apt/sources.list in kwrite
[11:33] <djk_> copy, and paste it to pastebin.com
[11:34] <djk_> angasule_: the what..
[11:35] <angasule_> djk_: a video of Ballmer\
[11:35] <djk_> and it's about..
[11:36] <chx> the KDE 3.5 Kopete is great -- but the History viewer is almost unusable
[11:36] <angasule_> djk_: it's about ballmer shouting like a maniac
[11:37] <djk_> angasule_: he's doing that in every video i've seen of him..
[11:37] <dclindsay> i would, too
[11:37] <dclindsay> if i were him
[11:37] <seth_k|lappy> chx, I agree. The history is disgusting
[11:37] <seth_k|lappy> chx, write us a new one :)
[11:38] <kakei> hey guys i just reboot and when it start KDE show this error http://pastebin.com/472357 , and i go to the Console (nographix) so i 'startx' and start Gnome
[11:38] <angasule_> o_O he's a sad joke
[11:38] <dclindsay> he's not alone in that
[11:38] <dclindsay> fucking attorney general
[11:38] <dclindsay> excuse me
[11:38] <angasule_> who's the attorney general these days?
[11:39] <angasule_> I'm assuming you're from the US?
[11:39] <dclindsay> attorney general who i would really like to say 'kiss my ass' to
[11:39] <dclindsay> yes
[11:39] <dclindsay> san diego
[11:39] <seth_k|lappy> dclindsay, language please
[11:39] <dclindsay> yes, sorry, thank you
[11:39] <seth_k|lappy> np
[11:39] <seth_k|lappy> just reminding :)
[11:40] <AgeLesS> i should know
[11:40] <AgeLesS> i read his name not this morning
[11:40] <AgeLesS> oh well
[11:40] <dclindsay> it's all about the ideological 'greater struggle' that excuses a law enforcement official from doing anything about a crime that is going on right in front of his face
[11:40] <angasule_> alberto gonzales?
[11:41] <dclindsay> yeah, Gonzalez, Mr. Innocent
[11:42] <AgeLesS> i'm lost?
[11:42] <AgeLesS> is he the guy on death row?
[11:42] <AgeLesS> or am I confused
[11:42] <dclindsay> laff, no
[11:42] <dclindsay> he's the US AG
[11:42] <AgeLesS> oh, lol
[11:42] <dclindsay> i think that's one thing that Ballmer is a maniac about
[11:43] <dclindsay> i mean
[11:43] <AgeLesS> I was thinking of the convicted serial killer in california who is up for pardon
[11:43] <AgeLesS> cuz he has "reformed"
[11:43] <dclindsay> who's that?
[11:43] <dclindsay> Tooky Williams?
[11:43] <AgeLesS> lol, and dthose 2 names are nothing alike
[11:43] <AgeLesS> thank you
[11:43] <dclindsay> he was executed last week
[11:43] <dclindsay> lethal injection
[11:43] <kakei> hey guys i just reboot and when it start KDE show this error http://pastebin.com/472357 , and i go to the Console (nographix) so i 'startx' and start Gnome
[11:44] <AgeLesS> ...must get on the cu rrent events bandwagon
[11:44] <dclindsay> apparently the deciding factor to the Gov. was that he refused to apologize for the killing
[11:44] <AgeLesS> you got a coredump out of startx?
[11:44] <dclindsay> he wasnt really a serial killer though, that's a false impression
[11:45] <AgeLesS> he was a mob boss or something
[11:45] <dclindsay> he was a gang leader
[11:45] <dclindsay> help form the Crips
[11:45] <dclindsay> ever see the movie 'Colors'?
[11:45] <AgeLesS> kakei, I'm very confused, you said that starx + Gnome gave you a coredump with QT classes in it?
[11:45] <AgeLesS> no, I don't htink so
[11:45] <dclindsay> anyways
[11:46] <kakei> AgeLess
[11:46] <angasule_> AgeLesS: no, kde is giving him that error
[11:46] <kakei> i start my computer normal
[11:46] <kakei> so when its going to open KDE it show me that error
[11:46] <kakei> and send me to a console and i type' startx' and start gnome
[11:46] <AgeLesS> but its a core dump, not an x11 log
[11:47] <kakei> yes
[11:47] <dclindsay> so anyways, after a few fits and starts, dist-upgrade to dapper is marinally doable
[11:47] <dclindsay> marginally doable, rather
[11:48] <AgeLesS> perhaps the Xorg error log would be more useful
[11:48] <chx> seth_k|lappy: sure. A browser based one will do?
[11:48] <chx> seth_k|lappy: I am a PHP guy alas not a C one
[11:48] <seth_k|lappy> chx, me too. Methinks the important thing is to have the logs in a nice XML format
[11:48] <seth_k|lappy> that we can then parse any way we want
[11:49] <chx> seth_k|lappy: sure. I think I will my own parser in PHP and then release it
[11:49] <kakei> where can i get the Xorg Log ? AgeLesS
[11:49] <AgeLesS> shoudl be in /var/log/
[11:49] <seth_k|lappy> chx, sounds great. I see that the logs are already XML, pretty nice
[11:49] <chx> another problem. I can't get KATE to not open more than one copy.
[11:50] <chx> previously, kate loaded a doc into a new tab
[11:50] <chx> now it loads a whole new kate :(
[11:50] <AgeLesS> whoa, kate has tabs, since when?
[11:51] <manveru> !info kate-plugins
[11:51] <ubotu> kate-plugins: (plugins for Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 458 kB, Installed size: 3808 kB
[11:51] <manveru> since some years :)
[11:51] <AgeLesS> i know the 3.5 version has the nifty sidebar
[12:02] <kakei> hey guys i get an error called 'kdmgreet' Anyone have idea of how to solve it?
[12:03] <_nano_> kakei: reinstall kdm?