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| zul | heylo | 01:46 |
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| zul | *sigh* http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/19/115 | 02:14 |
| BenC | we have several bug reports like that | 03:00 |
| BenC | k8 bug it seems | 03:01 |
| BenC | even saw one myself on my emachines laptop | 03:01 |
| infinity | That was a winner of a laptop, if I've ever seen one. | 03:02 |
| infinity | Also, good morning. | 03:02 |
| BenC | is it a good "lrm" morning? :) | 03:03 |
| infinity | Won't be until your kernels get out of NEW. | 03:03 |
| infinity | At least they all built, though. | 03:03 |
| infinity | Even poor little ia64. | 03:03 |
| BenC | yeah, well everytime I upload, I always know that 5 of the 6 are going to build :) | 03:04 |
| BenC | never sure about amd64 until it actually gets there | 03:04 |
| infinity | You don't do amd64 on concordia? | 03:04 |
| infinity | Tsk, tsk. | 03:04 |
| BenC | only when I know something with x86_64 changed (config wise or from linus tree) | 03:04 |
| BenC | sparc lagging behind again | 03:05 |
| infinity | I did i386 and amd64 in parallel on concordia the other day and wanted to kill myself. | 03:05 |
| infinity | That machine's not fast. | 03:05 |
| infinity | It's just... Faster than my laptop. A bit. | 03:05 |
| BenC | it's faster than all but my e3k | 03:05 |
| infinity | My girlfriend's desktop outstrips concordia. | 03:06 |
| BenC | my i386 is only 2ghz P4, and my PPC is a 500Mhz G4 | 03:06 |
| BenC | and ia64 is slow anyway | 03:06 |
| infinity | Ouch. My PPC is taice as fast as yours? Sucks to be you. | 03:06 |
| infinity | Blue G4? | 03:06 |
| BenC | my 500mhz ppc can do it's 3 builds quicker than my dual 700mhz ia64 can do 4 | 03:06 |
| infinity | s/taice/twice/ | 03:06 |
| BenC | grey | 03:06 |
| BenC | blue is G3 I think | 03:07 |
| infinity | Oh, right. | 03:07 |
| infinity | Blue was the G3, Grey was the G4 with the identical motherboard, but "ALL NEW, WITH ALTIVEC, OMG!!" | 03:07 |
| BenC | I need to get that quad 2.5ghz G5 | 03:07 |
| BenC | yeah, lol | 03:07 |
| infinity | (with altivec and half the cache, and half the cache speed, but who does integer with large dataset anyway, altivec is clearly better, fud, fud, fud) | 03:08 |
| infinity | Which is precisely why I opted for upgrading my G3 with a 1GHz G3 instead of a 1GHz G4.. I kinda looked at my usage patterns and decided the G3 would be faster in 99% of cases. | 03:08 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Later G4s had a new motherboard, didn't they? | 03:09 |
| BenC | both my G4's were free, so I can't complain | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | Or was AGP introduced with later G3s? | 03:09 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Yeah, but not the 500MHz one Ben has. | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | Ah | 03:09 |
| mjg59 | I just remember the bizarro 66MHz ATI cards | 03:10 |
| BenC | this was first generation G4 | 03:10 |
| infinity | Ben's would be, basically, a blue G3 with a sraypaint job and altivec. | 03:10 |
| BenC | when it first came out | 03:10 |
| BenC | 7400 PowerMac3,1 | 03:10 |
| BenC | PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics | 03:10 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Oh, the crazy cards on the Beige G3, you mean? I have one of those. | 03:11 |
| infinity | The blue G3 had normal AGP. | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | The blue and white G3s had them too, I think | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | Hmm. No, not all of them | 03:11 |
| infinity | Ahh, then they had two motherboard revisions. | 03:11 |
| infinity | (shock) | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | Uhm. These would have been 266MHz G3s | 03:11 |
| mjg59 | Or maybe 300 - first gen new world machines | 03:12 |
| BenC | this one has a 4x AGP ATI Rage 128 PF/PRO | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | Nngh argh where has oftc gone | 03:12 |
| mjg59 | Hang on | 03:12 |
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| BenC | I think I'm going to go ahead and get that PowerBook 17" | 03:13 |
| BenC | I just can't pass up the deal | 03:13 |
| BenC | in 6 months I'll get the quad 2.5ghz | 03:13 |
| === infinity is rather miffed this deal has shown up in every INBOX he's aware of except his own. | ||
| BenC | which will probably be Quad x86_64 4ghz by then :) | 03:13 |
| infinity | I could use the ppc64 machine... | 03:13 |
| BenC | you know others? | 03:14 |
| infinity | And maybe a cheap little iBook for my girlfriend, so she can be all trendy. | 03:14 |
| infinity | BenC : Several, yes. | 03:14 |
| zul | send me one.. | 03:14 |
| zul | im a hardware whore | 03:14 |
| mjg59 | I haven't received any excellent Apple deals | 03:14 |
| BenC | infinity: with the deal, the cheapest 12" iBook would be $750, not really much of a deal | 03:14 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Daniels has got one. Just steal his desktop. | 03:14 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Good, we can get drunk together and comiserate. | 03:14 |
| infinity | BenC : Ahh, shame. No iBook, then. It's the desktop I really want anyway. | 03:15 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Yeah, I'll just hop over to OH NO HANG ON | 03:15 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Going to LCA? | 03:15 |
| infinity | What dates are LCA again? | 03:15 |
| BenC | LCA? | 03:15 |
| infinity | linuxconf.au | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | 22-28 January | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | Or so | 03:16 |
| infinity | Oh, 23rg to the 28th. No, I'll be in London. | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | In NZ | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | Hahahahahaha | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | The irony | 03:16 |
| infinity | <nod> | 03:16 |
| mjg59 | We'll probably crash into each other in flight | 03:17 |
| infinity | I'll be snuggling with thom. | 03:17 |
| mjg59 | Awh | 03:17 |
| mjg59 | Are you there for two weeks? | 03:17 |
| infinity | Yeah. | 03:17 |
| mjg59 | Right, I'll probably be around for some of one of them | 03:17 |
| infinity | Zofia and I are going in advance for a short vacation, then some apache hacking with thom, then the distro sprint. | 03:17 |
| mjg59 | I'm not sure what dates I'll be in NZ | 03:18 |
| mjg59 | Need to check with the travel agent | 03:18 |
| infinity | I've decided I desperately need a beverage. | 03:18 |
| mjg59 | We should introduce you to UK beer | 03:18 |
| mjg59 | (in large quantities) | 03:18 |
| infinity | Dry mouth. Clear thinking. These things must be stopped. | 03:18 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Do I have to drink it warm? | 03:19 |
| mjg59 | Yes. Bastard. | 03:19 |
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| infinity | Oddly, thom has requested that I bring him Australian beer. | 03:20 |
| mjg59 | There is nothing wrong with warm beer | 03:20 |
| infinity | As has Mithrandir. | 03:20 |
| mjg59 | It means you can actually taste it | 03:20 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Except for the part where it tastes like piss, I agree completely. | 03:20 |
| infinity | (note: That's the American usage of the word "piss", meaning "urine", not the British/Australian usage, meaning "alcoholic beverage") | 03:21 |
| mjg59 | You're wrong, and you're a grotesquely ugly freak | 03:22 |
| infinity | Duely noted. | 03:22 |
| infinity | (Twiggy) | 03:22 |
| zul | BenC: there isnt an abiname for 2.6.15-9.11 in the git archive? | 03:22 |
| BenC | zul: not yet, because I have no abi files yet | 03:23 |
| BenC | actually, I was getting ready to do that | 03:23 |
| zul | hehe | 03:23 |
| BenC | everything is in NEW still, so I can't | 03:23 |
| zul | blah...ill wait til tomorrow then..hmm...grub or shower...hmm | 03:24 |
| infinity | "Everything is in NEW" is something I can work around, if you really want the files. | 03:24 |
| BenC | skip_abi=1 is your friend | 03:24 |
| zul | yeah i tried setting it to false and still no love | 03:24 |
| BenC | mkdir debian/abi/2.6.15-9.11 | 03:25 |
| BenC | echo 9 > debian/abi/2.6.15-9.11/abiname | 03:25 |
| zul | uh i mean true | 03:25 |
| zul | there we go | 03:26 |
| zul | night night...i can barely stay awake.. | 03:37 |
| zul | ill push my patches to my tested tree tomorrow | 03:37 |
| BenC | ok | 03:39 |
| cjb | BenC: OOI, what do I have to do to go from your git tree to a .deb as is built by the build machines? | 05:50 |
| cjb | (make-kpkg, I'm sure, but don't know how to replicate your config/initrd/etc.) | 05:50 |
| BenC | cjb: debian/rules binary-debs | 05:53 |
| BenC | cjb: configs are in debian/config/ | 05:53 |
| BenC | cjb: if you only want to builds on flavor, do "debian/rules binary-debs flavours=686", and the .deb will end up in debian/build/ | 05:54 |
| cjb | Awesome. | 05:54 |
| BenC | note that each flavour comprises debian/config/i386/config and one of debian/config/i386/config.{386,686,k7,...} | 05:55 |
| BenC | same for other arches | 05:55 |
| BenC | the config file are the common config items | 05:55 |
| cjb | Building now. Thanks! | 05:57 |
| BenC | np | 06:01 |
| BenC | sweet, the software for the online poker site I play works under wine | 06:13 |
| cjb | Heh, everyone's playing poker lately. I wonder how I can persuade them that Go is more interesting. | 06:18 |
| cjb | Hmph: | 06:32 |
| cjb | DEVLIST drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h | 06:32 |
| cjb | make[6] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h] Error 1 | 06:32 |
| cjb | Interesting. The relevant awk scripts abort(3)s when run under gawk, which is my default awk, and works under mawk. | 06:43 |
| fabbione | morning guys | 06:46 |
| cjb | 05:46 <fabbione> morning guys | 06:49 |
| cjb | >> /whois fabbione | 06:49 |
| cjb | Oops. | 06:49 |
| cjb | Good morning. :) Early there? | 06:50 |
| fabbione | sort of | 06:50 |
| lamont | Dec 19 23:25:45 mix kernel: [4369081.099000] set_rtc_mmss: can't update from 3 to 55 | 07:25 |
| lamont | wth does that mean? | 07:25 |
| fabbione | doh | 07:26 |
| fabbione | never seen it before | 07:26 |
| lamont | amd64 box with i386 kernel | 07:26 |
| fabbione | dapper? | 07:26 |
| lamont | 2.6.12-10-k7 on breezy | 07:26 |
| lamont | iz production box | 07:26 |
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| fabbione | checking... | 07:28 |
| fabbione | nothing fancy really | 07:30 |
| fabbione | vi include/asm-i386/mach-default/mach_time.h | 07:30 |
| fabbione | static inline int mach_set_rtc_mmss(unsigned long nowtime) | 07:30 |
| fabbione | this is what sends out the message | 07:30 |
| fabbione | if (abs(real_minutes - cmos_minutes) < 30) { | 07:30 |
| fabbione | } else { | 07:30 |
| fabbione | printk(KERN_WARNING | 07:30 |
| fabbione | "set_rtc_mmss: can't update from %d to %d\n", | 07:30 |
| fabbione | cmos_minutes, real_minutes); | 07:30 |
| fabbione | retval = -1; | 07:30 |
| fabbione | } | 07:30 |
| fabbione | looks like a clock skew of somekind with your cmos | 07:31 |
| lamont | sigh... I guess I'll have to drop into the bios | 07:31 |
| lamont | back in a few | 07:31 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:31 |
| fabbione | later | 07:31 |
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| lamont | fabbione: it looks like it's counting doubletime | 07:39 |
| lamont | that is, every 10 seconds, it thinks 20 has gone by | 07:39 |
| lamont | s/has/have/ | 07:39 |
| fabbione | weird... | 07:39 |
| lamont | what I really want to know is how to get it to slow back down. but for now, I'm going to go to bed | 07:39 |
| fabbione | lamont: good night :) | 07:40 |
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| JaneW | hi desrt | 07:44 |
| desrt | how's life in ubuntu land? | 07:45 |
| fabbione | Unpacking linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic (from linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic_2.6.12-10.24_i386.deb) ... | 07:48 |
| fabbione | now.. | 07:48 |
| fabbione | catch the weirdness :) | 07:48 |
| JaneW | desrt: good, how are you? | 07:50 |
| desrt | JaneW; exausted from the term at school. but last exam is tomorrow | 07:50 |
| fabbione | lamont: chinstrap:/home/fabbione/linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic_2.6.12-10.24_i386.deb please test :) | 07:56 |
| JaneW | desrt: cool, good luck | 08:00 |
| desrt | thx. | 08:00 |
| === desrt goes to bed now :) | ||
| desrt | cheerio. | 08:00 |
| fabbione | night desrt | 08:00 |
| desrt | nite :) | 08:02 |
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| CataEnry | hi! :) | 10:25 |
| cjb | lamont: Hello. If that's an HP box with an ATO bridge, I know how to fix your double-counting problem. | 11:33 |
| cjb | ATI, I mean. | 11:34 |
| cjb | (And it's not related to which arch's kernel you use.) | 11:34 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:17 |
| BenC | good morning | 02:21 |
| BenC | infinity: ping | 02:21 |
| BenC | anyone know how to get evolution to play well if I insert a diff inline that I don't want to have line feeds added? | 02:36 |
| jbailey | BenC: Try highligthing it and marking it as "preformated" | 02:38 |
| jbailey | In the style dialog | 02:38 |
| BenC | ok | 02:38 |
| zul | hmmm...thats weird | 02:47 |
| zul | drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.c: At top level: | 02:47 |
| zul | drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.c:309: error: unknown field 'name' specified in initializer | 02:47 |
| zul | drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.c:309: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type | 02:47 |
| zul | drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.c:310: error: unknown field 'id' specified in initializer | 02:47 |
| zul | drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.c:310: error: 'I2C_ALGO_SMBUS' undeclared here (not in a function) | 02:47 |
| zul | make[4] : *** [drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.o] Error 1 | 02:47 |
| zul | make[3] : *** [drivers/acpi] Error 2 | 02:47 |
| zul | make[2] : *** [drivers] Error 2 | 02:47 |
| zul | make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/chuck/kernel/builds/kotd/build/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-686' | 02:48 |
| zul | make[1] : *** [stamp-build] Error 2 | 02:48 |
| zul | make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/chuck/kernel/builds/kotd/build/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-686' | 02:48 |
| zul | make: *** [build] Error 2 | 02:48 |
| zul | sorry | 02:57 |
| BenC | jbailey: thanks, that worked | 03:07 |
| BenC | zul: current git? | 03:08 |
| BenC | ah, I see the error in my build aswell | 03:08 |
| BenC | I'll get it fixed shortly | 03:08 |
| zul | BenC: remove the .name in the stuct is one fix | 03:10 |
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| fabbione | hey BenC | 03:38 |
| BenC | hey fabio | 03:40 |
| zul | BenC: its look like its totally removed from the acpi-tree | 03:44 |
| zul | or its an external driver..bleah.. | 03:45 |
| BenC | yeah, I'm fixing it up | 03:47 |
| BenC | dev_acpi.c is broken too | 03:47 |
| BenC | the compat ioctl stuff has changed | 03:47 |
| mjg59 | There's a new release of dev-acpi | 03:48 |
| BenC | ah, that would be easier than all these changes I can't test :) | 03:49 |
| mjg59 | Not sure if it deals with that, but... | 03:49 |
| BenC | well I got it to compile without errors/warnings, but that's just for x86...no telling about x86_64 | 03:50 |
| BenC | but since we're 64-bit userspace on x86_64, it shouldn't matter much | 03:50 |
| BenC | wow, latest dev_acpi is like 6 source files instead of two :) | 04:01 |
| BenC | nm, it just has extra tools | 04:09 |
| BenC | mjg59: the new driver doesn't compile right either...I'm going to disable it for now (since it hasn't even been built for dapper yet anyway) | 04:15 |
| BenC | zul: pushing changes now to get things compiling again | 04:40 |
| BenC | dev_acpi and i2c-acpi-ec may end up getting removed | 04:40 |
| BenC | nice, #21313, "Sound issues", no description | 04:49 |
| zul | yeah its a dup | 04:49 |
| BenC | of which one? | 04:50 |
| zul | BenC: there is something about in the thinkwiki about that problem..its a laptop issue | 04:50 |
| BenC | 21315 | 04:50 |
| zul | yeppers | 04:50 |
| fabbione | BenC: can you slam an eye on netdev? | 04:52 |
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| zul | heh...one eyed monster... | 04:53 |
| zul | my mine is in the gutter sorry.. | 04:53 |
| zul | mind even | 04:54 |
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| lamont | cjb: how do I fix it? | 06:19 |
| lamont | and yes, HP box, ati bridge | 06:19 |
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| Robi- | crimsun , alive? | 07:45 |
| Robi- | BenC, you maintain some usb drivers correct? | 07:46 |
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| infinity | Argh. | 08:01 |
| infinity | BenC : You broke my headers! | 08:01 |
| infinity | I guess that's what I get for not testing builds on all arches before I upload... | 08:04 |
| infinity | BenC : amd64-k8-smp (at least) is missing (at least) the asm/* headers. See the amd64 LRM failed build log. | 08:07 |
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| BenC | hmm | 08:51 |
| infinity | yeah, that's one possible response. | 08:52 |
| infinity | Another could be "yes, massa, I fix it right now massa" | 08:52 |
| infinity | Or some variant thereof. :) | 08:52 |
| BenC | is the package missing for k8-smp? | 08:52 |
| zul | messa people think people going to die? | 08:52 |
| BenC | oh, I see | 08:53 |
| BenC | yes massa, it be fixted up for da nes upload massa | 08:53 |
| infinity | Kay. No -meta love until it is, or amd64 blows up. :) | 08:53 |
| cjb | What was that about k8-smp? :) | 08:53 |
| BenC | I can do -9.12 tonight | 08:54 |
| BenC | no ABI bump :) | 08:54 |
| infinity | I'll dep-wait LRM on -9.12, so it'll trigger as soon as you get it in. | 08:54 |
| cjb | Ah, I was just wondering where LRM was. | 08:54 |
| infinity | BenC : Do you have a -meta upload primed that adds amd64-server? | 08:58 |
| BenC | no | 08:58 |
| BenC | but I'll get one ready to go out with -9.12 | 08:58 |
| zul | why the hell does it feel like a friday? | 08:59 |
| BenC | holidays | 08:59 |
| zul | true but im stuck at work.. | 09:01 |
| zul | the acpi stuff you did compiles | 09:01 |
| infinity | amd64 / linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 | 09:09 |
| infinity | Version : 2.6.15.3-2 | 09:09 |
| infinity | Builder : buildd+yellow | 09:09 |
| infinity | State : Dep-Wait | 09:09 |
| infinity | Depends : linux-headers-2.6.15-9-amd64-generic (>> 2.6.15-9.11) | 09:09 |
| infinity | BenC : Ball's in your court. | 09:09 |
| infinity | BenC : I can do linux-meta as well, and dep-wait it on LRM, if that'll help things get through quicker. | 09:09 |
| infinity | (It'll get linux-meta out there for non-amd64 arches) | 09:10 |
| BenC | ok | 09:11 |
| fabbione | whats the deal with .12? | 09:38 |
| BenC | fabbione: amd64-k8-smp issue only | 09:40 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 09:40 |
| fabbione | well you can still unleash LRM | 09:40 |
| fabbione | if there is no ABI change.. | 09:41 |
| fabbione | BenC: the sparc kernel is in the archive if you need the ABI files | 09:44 |
| BenC | ok, thanks | 09:44 |
| BenC | is there a better place than ports.ubuntu.com? | 09:45 |
| BenC | neither hppa nor sparc seems to be available from there | 09:45 |
| fabbione | your e3k? ;) | 09:45 |
| BenC | well there's that for sparc :) | 09:45 |
| fabbione | BenC: it should appear in no more than 5 minutes on ports | 09:45 |
| fabbione | i guess it's syncing from jackass as we speak | 09:46 |
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| BenC | lamont: ping | 10:08 |
| infinity | BenC : Were you planning on doing SMP2UP on amd64? | 10:35 |
| zul_ | i think he already did it | 10:37 |
| BenC | infinity: tried | 10:38 |
| infinity | Failed? | 10:39 |
| BenC | the linker script fails to relocate the lock table | 10:39 |
| infinity | Ahh, poop. | 10:39 |
| BenC | not sure what that's all about, it's the exact same thing for x86 | 10:39 |
| infinity | I suppose it will require a hammer of some sort. | 10:39 |
| infinity | Would ne nice, though, since amd64 has a much more mixed SMP/UP install patter out there (especially with the multicore stuff) | 10:40 |
| infinity | Anyhow, linux-meta is uploaded; it won't build on amd64 until the new amd64 LRM is built. | 10:42 |
| zul | BenC: ping pull | 10:46 |
| zul | oh wait.. | 10:46 |
| BenC | infinity: ok, thanks | 10:47 |
| zul | now pull | 10:48 |
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| cjb | I'm running SMP amd64 on dual-core with LRM, if you need any testers. | 10:50 |
| BenC | sucks, I can't do any upload till I get some hppa abi files | 10:50 |
| BenC | and they aren't uploade dyet | 10:50 |
| BenC | well, they are, but they got rejected because of some newline issue with the buildd mail relay or something | 10:51 |
| === BenC bothers lamont | ||
| infinity | HP's mail relays wrap lines (as the RFCs claim they're allowed to do, to be fair) | 10:55 |
| infinity | buildd-mail doesn't like gratuitous line-wrapping and barfs. | 10:55 |
| infinity | I need to fix the latter, but I blame lamont entirely for not circumventing the former. :) | 10:55 |
| BenC | infinity: user claims ata errors went away with -9, can you confirm? | 11:23 |
| BenC | two users in fact | 11:23 |
| cjb | Coo, they got X running on the Linux Treo 650 port. | 11:23 |
| infinity | BenC : Iwas one of those users. Read your bugzilla comments more closely. :) | 11:24 |
| cjb | .. and I was the other. :) | 11:24 |
| CataEnry | bye all | 11:26 |
| BenC | oh, that last one was from you :) | 11:26 |
| BenC | I expected a "Hey dumbass, you finally got something right" if you confirmed it :) | 11:26 |
| infinity | BenC : Even more interesting, though not valid to that report, so I didn't comment on it, those failed assertions went away with -9 | 11:26 |
| BenC | excellent | 11:27 |
| infinity | (Or, at least, the printk went away) | 11:27 |
| BenC | nice that I closing more bugs than are getting opened...I really was expecing more bugs after flight2 than what I've had | 11:28 |
| BenC | most of the ones I'm closing, I didn't fix though :) | 11:28 |
| infinity | Fixing bugs is so passe. | 11:28 |
| infinity | I need to attack my bug list with a vengeance post-Christmas. | 11:29 |
| infinity | Should be a barrel of laughs. | 11:29 |
| BenC | yeah, why fix bugs when you can just upgrade to the latest version | 11:29 |
| cjb | infinity: Anything interesting on it? | 11:30 |
| infinity | I guess I can dupe all the fglrx and nvidia bugs against a master "prorpietary modules sometimes break, and I can't fix it" bug. | 11:30 |
| BenC | The funniest bug report I have right now is 21034 | 11:30 |
| BenC | a user did an install, and then rebooted with all sorts of noapic nolapic options, and said it wouldn't boot | 11:30 |
| infinity | cjb : I dunno. I have 150 bugs or so, one or two are bound to be interesting. | 11:30 |
| BenC | but has not yet tried booting without those options :/ | 11:30 |
| cjb | Yow. | 11:30 |
| BenC | infinity: do what I did, canned message saying "test with latest version", mark it needsinfo | 11:31 |
| BenC | if they don't respond post London-Sprint, I'm closing them :) | 11:31 |
| infinity | Heh. | 11:32 |
| BenC | I've actually gotten a lot of testing from it though...and most times, the bug is fixed | 11:32 |
| mjg59 | BenC: So, bcm43xx is pretty much moving over to the devicescape stack | 11:32 |
| infinity | That's just mad scientist enough to work. | 11:32 |
| mjg59 | (by the looks of things) | 11:32 |
| cjb | I also get "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:010:11.0" if we're posting warnings. :) | 11:32 |
| mjg59 | cjb: That's probably fine | 11:32 |
| infinity | Oh, speaking of bcm43xx... If we're shipping it now, should we find some firmware of questionable origin that we can slap in LRM? | 11:33 |
| mjg59 | What is that device? Your IDE controller? | 11:33 |
| BenC | mjg59: everything is moving in that direction | 11:33 |
| cjb | (And boot hangs with noapic.) | 11:33 |
| mjg59 | infinity: Finding the firmware is easy, having any sort of permission to distribute it less so | 11:33 |
| infinity | mjg59 : Right. Though I'm not sure what our level of permission is on the acx firmware either... | 11:33 |
| infinity | (It would seem to be implicit consent, or soemthing on that level of sketchiness) | 11:34 |
| BenC | infinity: bad thing is, they didn't do such a hot job of naming the firmware with some way of having lots of it installed (like acx was) | 11:34 |
| BenC | same filename, 5 different versions | 11:34 |
| mjg59 | infinity: We have the same problem with the firmware for the TI xx20 flash readers | 11:34 |
| infinity | BenC : Easy enough to fix the driver to handle that. | 11:34 |
| mjg59 | Of course, we also have the problem that that's distributed in an encrypted form | 11:34 |
| BenC | yeah, and we'll end up with a mapping of pci dev/ven/subdev/subven id's to match to versions | 11:35 |
| BenC | which works for me | 11:35 |
| cjb | Flash readers use firmware? Eww. | 11:36 |
| infinity | mvo : How do you feel about the state of our current draft of NetworkWideUpdates? | 11:39 |
| infinity | mvo : If someone were insane enough to spend some "spare time" starting to build small bits of it... | 11:39 |
| === BenC pulls from linus and prays the abi hasn't changed | ||
| infinity | Of course it has. | 11:42 |
| BenC | post rc6 is supposed to be important fixes only | 11:43 |
| infinity | And important ABI changes. | 11:44 |
| BenC | hppa should hope for an abi change, else it willbe ftbfs from 9.12 | 11:45 |
| === BenC ordered his powerbook today | ||
| BenC | wont be here before christmas though, so no gift from santa :( | 11:45 |
| infinity | nictuku : /me notes that mvo isn't in this channel, and he misfired. | 11:49 |
| infinity | ARGH, TYPING HARD, SHOULD HAVE SLEPT LAST NIGHT, I BLAME MJG59 FOR EVERYTHING. | 11:50 |
| cjb | BenC: Which Powerbook, OOI? | 11:53 |
| BenC | 17" 1.67ghz | 11:53 |
| cjb | Very nice. I wish they did slightly higher resolution, though. | 11:54 |
| cjb | (The Dell 17"s do 1920x1200.) | 11:54 |
| BenC | 1280x1024 is good enough for me | 11:54 |
| cjb | Heh. | 11:54 |
| cjb | My desktop is 2560x1600. :) | 11:54 |
| infinity | My 1400x1050 thinkpad has spoiled me, I can't go back now. | 11:54 |
| === cjb <heart> Apple 30" Cinema Display. | ||
| BenC | I only use X for firefox and now xchat and evolution, most of the VT's are used for actual work though :) | 11:55 |
| BenC | X is my distraction | 11:55 |
| BenC | yes, and Apple 30" display would keep me in X :) | 11:55 |
| BenC | it's too easy to go Applications->Games while I'm on the gnome desktop | 11:56 |
| cjb | Yeah. On the 30", I have top-right quarter for firefox, bottom right for evolution, and the left half the screen is tiled with xterms and emacsen. | 11:56 |
| BenC | spoiled you are | 11:57 |
| cjb | It's true. But I work from home, and value my comfort a lot. :) | 11:57 |
| BenC | sweet, no ABI changes for i386 so far | 11:57 |
| BenC | lol | 11:57 |
| mjg59 | infinity: You were lying awake thinking about me? | 11:58 |
| infinity | mjg59 : It's the concave chest. Gets me hot and bothered. | 11:59 |
| infinity | Mostly bothered. | 11:59 |
| cjb | Ooh, do you really have a concave chest? | 11:59 |
| mjg59 | cjb: Yes | 12:04 |
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