[12:02] something like that, though you can probably drop the / in between [12:02] bbl [12:02] or should I get rid of $(PREFIX) altogether? [12:17] guys question is rufus in the repos for dapper? [12:17] http://rufus.sourceforge.net/index.php [12:21] poningru, no [12:21] eruin: is it just that no one has packaged it or...? [12:22] I haven't seen any talk about it and it isn't in the dapper repos atm [12:22] but then I'm not a dev either ;) === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin hugs Kyral [12:23] hello === womble [n=mpalmer@sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-65-252.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] they had an interview for the Debian KDE maintainer group, I suppose one for Kubuntu people will follow soon? === ptolo [n=senko@83-131-2-45.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === etcp [i=foobar@home.etcp.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] hmm [12:44] anyone know of a good package that has an example postinst file? [12:47] or tell me how one is layed out? [12:48] ... [12:48] many postinst files are auto-generated by debhelper [12:48] yah well, I need to custom one [12:48] the one for gcc is hand-written and looks very good to me [12:48] and short [12:49] I'm customizing OpenAFS for my Linux Lab and basically need to wget all the config files from our server on install [12:49] but I don't really understand the question, it's just a shell script [12:49] Thank you thats all I needed to know :D [12:49] or maybe even any script [12:49] its a Bash Script :D [12:50] Backup the default install files, wget the config files [12:50] on Remove restore the changed files === minghua is now known as minghua_away [12:55] oh sweet [12:55] openafs already has postinst === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-078-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Loiosh [n=loiosh@c-67-166-229-59.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #Ubuntu-MOTU [] === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === torkel [i=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=3ab98d4e1bee47890a8df8eaf101f2df&t=57590&page=2 [01:17] how come rufus is not in the repos? === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] poningru: because Debian doesn't have it? [01:20] poningru: there is a rufus package on REVU [01:20] oh ok [01:21] doh [01:21] I could have sworn I searched there [01:21] sorry about that [01:23] Any MOTU around? [01:23] whats the question? [01:24] 10 bucks says he wants a package reviewed :P [01:24] Actually, I'd like a package uploaded. [01:25] lol === seth_k|lappy pokes Kyral for the 10 bucks, you were wrong [01:26] yah yah [01:26] wnn6-sdk 1.0.0-13 was autosync'd, and it doesn't build due to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config moving. I've got a 4K debdiff that fixes the FTBFS. === Kyral gives seth_k|lappy 10 bucks [01:26] sweet, I can eat tomorrow [01:26] StevenK: where's the diff? [01:26] http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/wnn6-sdk_1.0.0-13ubuntu1.debdiff [01:29] you're whitelisted in the katie setup, right? [01:29] I am. [01:29] I just need to attend a TB meeting and beg for upload rights. :-) [01:29] uploaded [01:29] fuck [01:29] (And get my u.c address, but that's another problem.) [01:29] why is it a native package? [01:30] please kick the Debian maintainer to have that fixed. [01:30] StevenK: you dont have your @ubuntu yet either? [01:30] Mithrandir: I shall. I was going to file my patch in the BTS [01:30] Kyral: Nope. [01:30] Well, at least I don't think so. [01:30] StevenK: join me in pinging elmo tomorrow after the CC Meeting ;P [01:30] StevenK: it's probably an oversight on his part. Anyway, it's already uploaded, so. [01:31] Mithrandir: you MOTU? === StevenK just checked - still no. [01:31] Kyral: When is the CC meeting? [01:31] StevenK: Tomorrow....no time yet [01:31] Kyral: no. :-) [01:32] Yeah, that happened with the TB meeting, and I missed it. [01:32] StevenK: I'll just idle in there all day lol [01:32] Kyral: I predate the MOTU structure. ;-) [01:32] this is miffing me now [01:32] I have a package on REVU that only needs one more vote [01:32] that is, I was one of the people who were present when we came up with the name etc. [01:32] damn you are an old timer lol [01:33] Mithrandir: Thanks, I just got the katie mail. [01:33] StevenK: woo katie. :-) [01:33] who is katie? [01:34] The archive scripts. [01:34] Kyral: the program which sends you email when you upload something. [01:34] StevenK: next time, I'd love it if you didn't have absolute paths in your patches, since patch -p didn't cope well with it. [01:34] oh I was thinking it was a real person [01:34] lol [01:34] Mithrandir: Blame debdiff [01:34] StevenK: use interdiff instead. :-) [01:34] debian use girl names for their infrastructure script names [01:34] ah [01:35] minghua: for now. They're going away, though. [01:35] Well, to be pedantic, jennifer sends the email, since katie is just a library now. [01:35] I'd love to upload a new version of EasyChem with my @ubuntu lol [01:35] Mithrandir: yeah, dak is supposed to supersede quite a few girls, but I suppose not all? [01:36] minghua: dak is just a name for the whole suite of scripts. [01:36] but yes, there'll be a dak $foo command [01:36] I thought they all were going away, but I haven't watched that space closely. [01:36] also, people tend to use the name katie and dak somewhat interchangeably. [01:37] well, as you said, the name will become a command anyway === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] hey === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] hi folks [01:49] hey [01:52] hi zul, sistpoty === Amaranth [n=amaranth@24-116-61-125.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] hmm [02:38] stumbleupon broken :[ === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] Can a MOTU push this tiny little upload for me? It just adds a Categories line to a .desktop file. It's https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/5817 [02:49] Malone bug #5817: x11-free (Ubuntu) - qt3-designer: missing category in .desktop file In: qt-x11-free (Ubuntu), Severity: Minor, Assigned to: Kubuntu Team, Status: PendingUpload https://launchpad.net/bugs/5817 [02:52] seth_k|lappy: I'll take a look [02:52] thanks sistpoty :) [02:53] seth_k|lappy: nope, can't do that... this is a main package [02:54] hi sistpoty :) [02:54] hi raphink [02:54] sistpoty: would you have time to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1105 too ? [02:54] sistpoty, um, I thought it said universe... Filename: pool/universe/q/qt-x11-free/qt3-designer_3.3.5-1ubuntu4_i386.deb [02:54] seth_k|lappy: ah, k... I just looked at bug title [02:54] raphink: it's in the q ;) [02:55] phew, you scared me for a second sistpoty ;) I thought I messed up again [02:55] sistpoty: oh you plan a q for your reviews ? :) [02:55] no... q for my work-queue ;) [02:55] huuu === raphink thinks it's time for bed ... may be why /me doesn't understand everything [02:56] hehe... /me is a little bit tired as well [02:56] seth_k|lappy: phew... that' [02:57] +s a 17mb source package... maybe I'll do that tomorrow [02:57] np, should I assign it to a different team than Kubuntu team so you remember? [02:58] or is it okay, you'll just put it in the queue ;) [02:59] seth_k|lappy: args... wrong again... I just downloaded qt-x11-free :/ [03:00] no sistpoty, that's right [03:00] qt3-designer is provided by qt-x11-free [03:00] there are several apps in that source package [03:00] oh wait, but you downloaded the whole... never mind :P [03:00] hehe [03:01] seth_k|lappy: hm... but qt-x11-free *is* in main [03:01] ahhhhhh [03:01] confusing [03:01] :) [03:01] universe binary package from main source, it seems? :-) [03:01] yep [03:02] oo [03:02] intersting [03:02] didn't know that could happen [03:02] ;) [03:02] I dunno, I can't even find qt-x11-free on packages.ubuntu.com [03:02] obviously the opposite couldn't be [03:02] I didn't know you could do that either [03:03] Hmm, SVK is apparently quite buggy [03:03] having the source in universe building packages in main would break the system logic [03:03] s/system logic/logic of the system/ [03:03] okay, well thank you anyways sistpoty, for taking time for me :) [03:03] np seth_k|lappy [03:03] seth_k|lappy: I suppose you didn't check the "source packages" checkbox :-) [03:04] minghua, yeah, I found it afterwards === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F6AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] ooh, hi SloMoSnail, did you ever have a chance to REVU kmobiletools? ;) [03:05] hi SloMoSnail === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-203-76-59.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] raphink: kyamo looks nice... if it builds well, I'll upload it [03:19] ok :) [03:19] I've got autostart too : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1209 [03:19] quite small [03:19] ;) [03:20] btw.: raphink: is software on kde-apps listed permanently? if not, it might be prudent to update the link in copyright to sourceforge [03:21] they are listed permanently as far as i know [03:21] only there are filters [03:21] ah, ok :) === dous [n=adpenara@203.131.155.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] mostly on the opinion on apps [03:22] sistpoty, if you have time again, package "kmobiletools" on REVU needs review+advocates (Riddell already advocated) [03:22] but there's often more chances to find an app on kde-apps when it has been there [03:22] than to be sure the website still exists [03:22] for small projects [03:22] I really like the screenshots there :) === ajmitch decides to get a couple of merges uploaded while he has the chance [03:23] seth_k|lappy: ok, I'll take a look... [03:23] thanks :) [03:24] anyone know if the Prism2 wireless chipset is supported in the kernel? [03:24] hi ajmitch === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] sistpoty: you mean on kde-apps? [03:25] raphink: yep === raphink thinks a new version of debs should contain small screenshots [03:25] so users can see what apps look like from adept or synaptic === raphink loves to see what apps look like before using them [03:26] it often helps me better to understand wht they do [03:26] than the description that is given [03:26] raphink: what about console apps? [03:26] even a screenshot of a console app makes me happy [03:26] because I ccan just see what kind of output I can expect [03:26] well you're just easy to please then :) [03:26] from what kind of arguments given [03:27] seth_k|lappy: there's nothing wrong with this :) [03:27] nope ;) [03:27] raphink; the .deb is downloaded only after you decide to install the package [03:27] desrt: yes I know that, so then a database linked to Packages.gz is what I meant ;) [03:27] raphink; for what you're suggesting you'd need a screenshot server or something (since screenshots are definitely too large to include inside the apt data) [03:27] sorry for the confusion [03:28] Kyral: prism2 should work out of the box [03:28] the apt data could contain links to screenshots [03:28] hub: tell that to my friend in #ubuntu [03:28] that woudl then be loaded from the server in adept/synaptic [03:28] hopefully it only grabs the screenshot when you want to look at it! [03:28] just an idea though ;) [03:28] Kyral: I'm not on #ubuntu [03:28] hub: said that the 2.4 kernel of DSL picked it up but the 2.6 didn't [03:29] hub: whats the module name if you know [03:29] desrt: i've got some ideas on what the future of such apps could be [03:29] more like finkkommander imo [03:29] and using translations too [03:29] so you don't have to understand english in order to find the app you need [03:29] Kyral: prism2 [03:29] ah. like translated package names? [03:30] or just translated descriptions? [03:30] brb [03:30] translated descriptions desrt [03:30] the problem with localized package description is never the package manager (apt supports it now for that matter), but the translations of the descriptions themselves [03:30] it's a shame that translation is an n*m problem [03:30] using multiple entries in debian/control for example [03:31] minghua there could be a way of translating descriptions using rosetta maybe [03:31] although i have no idea how easy it would be to adapt rosetta to translating debian/control files [03:31] raphink: not sure, never used rosetta myself seriously [03:32] rosetta is a great translation enhancer === minghua is a console guy and uses vim to translate .po's [03:32] hehe === raphink is a nano fan [03:33] minghua, are you maintaining scim in universe at the moment? [03:33] hey jsgotangco [03:33] ajmitch, hello sir [03:33] jsgotangco: yes === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] minghua, ok so its ok if i refer you to the korean team? they can help [03:34] jsgotangco: sure, would be wonderful to get some help (I'm the one-man team now :-) [03:34] jsgotangco: I rate a sir now? impressive [03:34] raphink: build complete, however lintian still complains: kyamo: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/applications/kde/kyamo.desktop [03:34] ajmitch, yes, being the MOTU professor that you are heh [03:34] raphink: maybe you could remove execute rights for this? [03:35] jsgotangco: not a professor [03:35] sistpoty: the merge list isn't shrinking fast enough :) [03:35] Oh I dn't have this in lintian sistpoty, that's interesting [03:35] so maybe I could dh_install with 644 mode [03:35] ajmitch: I already did wipe some removed apps today ;) [03:36] hmm no [03:36] wrong [03:36] raphink: it's in lintian if you run it on the deb [03:36] hmm ok [03:36] I don't have the deb right here I belive [03:36] sistpoty: I've uploaded a couple today, and have a couple to request syncs for [03:36] let's see [03:36] oh yes right it says it [03:36] :) [03:36] ajmitch: and i guess tiber is a little "slow" atm... since I'm building ghc6 atm ;) [03:37] sistpoty: ok well you decide whether it deserve to be fixed ;) [03:37] if so, i'll do it tomorrow [03:37] too tired right now [03:38] raphink: it's only a small change... I'll give my ok now and since the debdiff will be small, I'll upload it once you have it fixed... ok? [03:38] sure [03:38] :) [03:38] and I'll report to upstream [03:38] since it comes from them [03:38] :) [03:38] I shan't use a patch for this i guess [03:38] only a chmod in rules [03:40] sistpoty: what chmod shall I use instead ? 644 right? [03:41] raphink: erm... no idea for desktop files... but 644 seems to make sense [03:41] yes I just checked on other desktop files in the system [03:41] it's 644 [03:41] quite logical [03:44] sistpoty: still.. 485 merges done so far is pretty good [03:44] okay bug [03:44] for some reason the prism2_cs module isn't included in the default install [03:44] ajmitch: MoM is still two days ahead of the merge list :/ [03:44] sistpoty: oh? how so? [03:45] what do you mean by 2 days ahead? [03:45] ajmitch: latest MoM log I parsed for the merge list is from 12/17... latest MoM log present is 12/19 [03:45] sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1249 [03:45] ok [03:45] so reparse it ;) [03:45] changed to 644 [03:45] Anyone have a quick tip on how I could find every occurrence of a string in all files in a directory, and replace the string with another? [03:45] that's one line diff ;) [03:45] there shouldn't be too many more merges for us to do [03:46] find & sed :) [03:46] ajmitch: will do that once the next log comes in... ok? if you want it earlier, I mailed to admin@tiber how to do it ;) [03:46] I'd say find -> $file variable [03:46] ajmitch, find instead of rgrep? [03:46] then for $file -> sed with a tmp === seth_k|lappy has some manpage reading to do then, if that's the easiest way :P [03:47] raphink: sounds overly complex [03:47] ajmitch: well it's 3:47AM so i'm complex [03:47] lol [03:47] hehe [03:47] oh psh, here we go. Kfilereplace will do it === seth_k|lappy runs away with his GUI tool [03:47] sistpoty: I'm not in a rush, I'm going away in a couple of days [03:47] I should rather be dreaming straight than trying to think straight === poningru [n=poningru@pool-68-238-172-74.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] and there's no way I'll get all my merges cleared before Christmas [03:48] ah... holidays? [03:48] sistpoty: got my link? [03:48] yeah [03:48] raphink: yep... just rebuilding [03:48] I'll be away for only a week [03:48] ok :) [03:48] well I just added 644 to dh_install [03:48] and after that I'll have *lots* of spare time for ubuntu ;) [03:49] :) [03:49] yeehaa :) [03:50] sigh [03:50] broken i386 buildd [03:50] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [03:50] Build environment unusable, giving back [03:50] yay [03:50] :s [03:53] sistpoty: I have to admit i couldn't test the change on a dapper box, since I have no dapper box here, only a dapper pbuilder [03:54] and no chroot installed so far [03:54] so if you get sure it fixes the chmod stuff it's good :) [03:54] oh dear [03:54] raphink: but you can test installing w. piuparts ;) [03:54] I'm a breezy right now [03:54] raphink: or just look inside the deb [03:54] and you can unpack your pbuilder base tarball for a permanent chroot [03:54] sure sistpoty [03:54] mhm [03:55] well it's too late to think about this [03:55] lol [03:55] and I just know adding 644 to dh_install is enough to install the file with 644 chmod [03:55] raphink: cp: cannot stat `./644': No such file or directory [03:56] argh [03:56] hmm [03:56] hehe [03:56] grrr [03:56] mooh === ajmitch uploads another [03:57] sorry for that sistpoty :( [03:57] raphink: np... trying to built it wasn't really much work... at least not human work ;) [03:57] I forgot -m [03:57] so it's [03:57] dh_install -m 644 myfile [03:58] let's change it [03:58] and this time I'll build it to check === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] hmmm [04:08] sistpoty: pb is that dh_fixperms is ran after the install rule [04:09] so it overrides the dh_install -m 644 [04:09] do you think I can move the install of the desktop file to a post-install rule? [04:09] :s [04:11] raphink: not quite sure how exactly cdbs handles this [04:11] yes === ether3 [n=roger@CPE00e000ae74f2-CM000f9f52bb04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:15] I think I found a way sistpoty [04:15] I'll try it [04:15] :) [04:15] Kyral: ping [04:16] raphink: using dh_desktop or s.th.? [04:16] SEJeff: pong [04:16] DB_FIXPERMS_EXCLUDE := src/kyamo.desktop [04:16] Kyral: You do the kernel / initrd stuff right? [04:16] SEJeff: whaa? No...I'm just a MOTU Wannabe [04:17] Kyral: I must be smokin' crack tonight... sorry [04:17] I mean I know my way around a kernel compile, but I don't trust myself to compile a kernel for thousands of people [04:17] SEJeff: you might want to ask benc in -devel [04:17] I'll see if that does it [04:17] sistpoty: Thanks === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] yay, another sync to request [04:25] okay, tomorrow's CC meeting time is still TBD, I don't think I'll make it [04:25] pffffff [04:25] yeah it' shard to be on time when it's planned on TBD [04:27] ajmitch: elmo has been getting the syncs done quickly [04:27] bmonty: yeah, I'm just building up a list of them so I just make 1 request [04:27] du -sh /home/ajmitch/debian/pbuilder/ [04:27] 5.3G /home/ajmitch/debian/pbuilder/ [04:27] hm [04:27] I think I should clean that up ;) [04:27] yeah [04:27] Is that your results dir? [04:27] no [04:28] results is only 800 [04:28] 2.6G /home/ajmitch/debian/pbuilder/build [04:28] builds not getting cleaned up [04:28] steven@broken:~% ls /var/cache/pbuilder/build [04:28] 1165 14690 1630 17333 20376 20899 2167 21957 24697 28804 4585 [04:28] Seems I have the same problem. [04:28] > ls [04:28] should ubuntu debs create python2.3 packages at all? [04:28] 10319/ 1138/ 1152/ 11882/ 16209/ 18391/ 20098/ 20220/ 20975/ 23938/ 25022/ 27598/ 31232/ 31728/ 4294/ 6435/ 8332/ [04:29] don't forget to umount the proc's and dev's beform rm them [04:29] bmonty: they still can [04:29] minghua: these are old [04:29] minghua: the most recent is > a month old [04:29] ajmitch: yeah, but is there any point in it? should python2.3 code work with 2.4? [04:29] ajmitch: depend on when was your last reboot ;-) [04:29] minghua: about 3 days ago ;) [04:30] stupid athlon xp & its overheating [04:30] bmonty: there is a point in it [04:30] but doko is working on redoing the system system in debian & ubuntu [04:30] s/system/python/ [04:30] Yeah, my dual Athlon is starting to overheat due to summer. [04:31] CPU: +83C (low = +0C, high = +70C) ALARM (HIGH) [04:31] that's sitting fairly idle [04:31] once it gets above 92/93, it reboots ;) [04:31] new scim-hangul built and installed, and no segfaults - seems a good start :-) [04:31] Mine just hard locks. :-/ [04:32] I wouldn't mind a pleiter (sp?) for both of my processors. [04:32] minghua, awesome [04:32] peltier [04:33] minghua, 0.2.1? [04:33] jsgotangco: I'll probably be co-maintainer of scim-hangul pretty soon :-) [04:33] jsgotangco: yes [04:37] seth_k|lappy: kmobiletools is fine... will upload in a minute [04:37] sistpoty, awesome! thank you :) [04:37] my father-in-law uses a 120VAC fan from one of his HF amplifiers to keep his CPU nice and cool [04:38] sounds like a jet engine though [04:38] sistpoty, notice it's a new package... am I supposed to have 3 advocates first? [04:38] bmonty: sadly my computer is in my bedroom [04:38] seth_k|lappy: no, it's 2 advocates [04:38] so I can't have anything too noisy :) [04:38] ah, okay === StevenK has his noisy beast in his study. [04:38] ajmitch: earplugs [04:39] It's nice having a whole house to spread out in. [04:39] jsgotangco: what are the korean team you mentioned planning to do? [04:39] ajmitch: its all about moving air past the heat sinks [04:39] bmonty: I know [04:39] jsgotangco: are they working on something similar to ubuntu-jp? [04:40] this hotel internet connection sucks...and I have to pay [04:40] minghua, well the korean team knows what to do with regards to test and bugzilla, but doesn't know where to start and im helping them on pointing to resources... [04:40]