[12:00] <Comrade_Vladimir> the first command gave me nothing
[12:00] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: Unix/Linux usually don't return anything if there were no errors, so it probably worked :)
[12:00] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, it made the mountpoint. Just go back to the mount command and execute it.
[12:01] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, okay i will
[12:01] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, then your windows partition should be mounted. You can cd to it or access it through Places.
[12:01] <Comrade_Vladimir> did nothing again is that good i assume so
[12:01] <Comrade_Vladimir> cool lemme try and get back 2 u
[12:02] <NCLife> i have a problem with my ipod now.. i was trying to mount it for the first time.. when i connected it, it was mounted automatic to /media/ipod.. i didnt mind and mounted manualy to /mnt/ipod
[12:02] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: cd /mnt/win/;ls -la
[12:02] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5938
[12:02] <ardchoille> Is there a way to view pdf files in Firefox? I tried opening one and Firefox will only let me download it.
[12:02] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i think we've made a major break through tho, im gonna restart and maybe that'll make a difference while you look it over. BRB
[12:02] <Comrade_Vladimir> Nomikos what was that supposed to do
[12:02] <cwr2nd> hey guys had a quick question for anyone who has a sec, I have a a scsi pci adapter with 2 ibm 18g drives attached but I can not mount the drive] 
[12:02] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: unmute 'DSP'
[12:02] <RWG> O_o
[12:03] <crimsun> err
[12:03] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: first it should go to that partition, then give you a listing
[12:03] <Falstius> cwr2nd: do the drives show up in /proc/scsi/scsi?
[12:03] <soundray> ardchoille, there is a firefox plugin that comes with Adobe Reader.
[12:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray where in places ,computer  right
[12:03] <NCLife> oh.. now it unmounted O.O well.. ill try to mount it again
[12:03] <ardchoille> soundray: ah, ok, thanks
[12:03] <Falstius> NCLife: why don't you just leave it mounted in /media?
[12:03] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, File System, then mnt, then win
[12:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> it gives me a bash Nomikos
[12:04] <NCLife> i dont know >.< i was reading a how to.. i guess it was not smart from me
[12:04] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: uhm, maybe soundray's way is friendlier, try that
[12:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> it says file contents cannot be displayed and i dont have permission soundray
[12:04] <NCLife> Falstius, should i get rid of my manual mount?
[12:04] <Comrade_Vladimir> da comrade
[12:05] <soundray> Nomikos, so much for friendlier :)
[12:05] <Nomikos> soundray: maybe because it was mounted as root?
[12:05] <Nomikos> or with sudo, anyhow?
[12:05] <Falstius> NCLife: probably.  The automount is convenient and will work well with built in tools
[12:05] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, we need to remount it to give you permission. The command is:
[12:05] <Comrade_Vladimir> go for it
[12:05] <Falstius> there's even "ipod" tabs in a few places.
[12:06] <NCLife> ok
[12:06] <NCLife> to mount it i made a dir in /mnt/ipod and then added this lines to /dev/fstab "/dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat user,noauto,umask=000 0 0
[12:06] <NCLife> "
[12:06] <servant> ndswrapper - I need to install it on my ubuntu system, but am having problems
[12:06] <cwr2nd> if there can help please pvt
[12:06] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, 'sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win'
[12:06] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, ... I think
[12:06] <NCLife> Falstius, any idea how can i quit that so when i plug in my ipod again it wont mount twice?
[12:07] <Nomikos> NCLife: don't want to interrupt but isn't that /etc/fstab ?
[12:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> very reassuring soundray..
[12:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok its in with no results
[12:07] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, sorry :)
[12:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> try to access it again?
[12:07] <Falstius> NCLife: why would it mount twice?
[12:07] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: yep
[12:07] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok
[12:07] <NCLife> oh yeah, i meant that Nomikos :P
[12:07] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, you can always give me ssh access, and I'll...
[12:07] <NCLife> i dunno.. rofl, i thought that
[12:07] <anthony_> hello
[12:07] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, whatever. Have you got permission now?
[12:08] <NCLife> i will just plug it in again
[12:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> did the same thing again
[12:08] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i am back
[12:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> do i need to reboot or something
[12:08] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, okay, let's do it properly.
[12:08] <anthony_> does naybody here have a soundblaster Live! 24bit soundcard
[12:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> awww
[12:08] <Falstius> NCLife: well, with that line in fstab it won't mount automatically when you plug it in, but just remove the line and plug in the ipod again.
[12:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> ewww soundblaster
[12:08] <anthony_> i know
[12:08] <anthony_> lol
[12:08] <anthony_> but its acting up
[12:08] <Comrade_Vladimir> get an audigy
[12:08] <Falstius> NCLife: er, it will mount automatically at /media/ipod but not at /mnt/ipod
[12:09] <anthony_> any help with no sound in games like supertux
[12:09] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, 'sudo umount /dev/hda ; sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win' -- then check nautilus Places again.
[12:09] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok back to the conversation what now soundray and Nomikos
[12:09] <soundray> Nomikos, agree?
[12:09] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, are you there mate?
[12:09] <Nomikos> soundray: hda or hda1 ?
[12:09] <Comrade_Vladimir> i got a little carrot in terminal i need to type something?
[12:09] <NCLife> okays
[12:10] <anthony_> so nobody has a soundblaster Live! 24bit soundcard??
[12:10] <cmatheson> anthony: you could try installing libsdl1.2debian-esd
[12:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> haha anthony_ stupid spundblaster
[12:10] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: yes
[12:10] <john_> what respository are the video codecs in?
[12:10] <crimsun> anthony_: what's the issue?
[12:10] <Nomikos> soundray: i'm not /very/ familiar with mount but i can't see anything wrong with the rest
[12:10] <anthony_> is that in synaptic cmath
[12:10] <soundray> Nomikos, well spotted. Comrade_Vladimir, in my command, replace '/dev/hda ' with '/dev/hda1 '
[12:10] <Comrade_Vladimir> well thats good
[12:10] <anthony_> umm i dont get any sound in supertux or any other games
[12:11] <anthony_> but i can play mp3s
[12:11] <anthony_> and videos
[12:11] <anthony_> but no sound in games
[12:11] <john_> me too anthony
[12:11] <anthony_> really
[12:11] <crimsun> anthony_: so just stop esd prior to playing those games, then restart it after you finish
[12:11] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray if u didnt notice it already is that way
[12:11] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, whenever i type this : sudo modprobe snd-cs4236, into the terminal something happens the volume control works. Before it would be complete silence and it would give me an error. Now i can change the volume but i still cant hear anything. But i can still hear the staticky sound...
[12:11] <Falstius> anthony_: it probably isn't a hardware problem, but the games not used "esd" (the sound daemon)
[12:11] <crimsun> anthony_: uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[12:12] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, no, look carefully, I mean the first occurrence.
[12:12] <cwr2nd> well thanks for the help guy's, a newbie with no support from the ubtuntu "experts"
[12:12] <anthony_> its already checked
[12:12] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ blender -w
[12:12] <SAM_theman> Using Python version 2.4
[12:12] <SAM_theman> :D
[12:12] <Falstius> cwr2nd: you never told us your problem
[12:12] <Comrade_Vladimir> oh sorry
[12:12] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: you left before reading everything I typed
[12:12] <maximumbob> grr!
[12:12] <Falstius> cwr2nd: and didn't respond to a request for more information
[12:12] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, sorry
[12:12] <soundray> cwr2nd, what?
[12:12] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: you need to unmute 'DSP'
[12:12] <NCLife> Falstius, another question.. my ipod is unmounted, but it still says "do not disconnect" ive tried typing "eject ipod_name" and "eject /dev/sda2" it says unable to open /dev/sda2
[12:12] <anthony_> the "enable sound sever startup" is checked
[12:12] <AbdulSpiegel> how do i do that?
[12:12] <cwr2nd> but I did
[12:12] <anthony_> un check it
[12:12] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: you may also need to mute 'Master Digital'
[12:12] <anthony_> ?
[12:12] <maximumbob> I can't log in to vsftpd with any user other than the main acct
[12:13] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: amixer sset 'DSP' on
[12:13] <Falstius> NCLife: try "sudo eject"
[12:13] <cwr2nd> I wiill tell you again
[12:13] <cwr2nd> hey guys had a quick question for anyone who has a sec, I have a a scsi pci adapter with 2 ibm 18g drives attached but I can not mount the drive] 
[12:13] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok its done
[12:13] <Falstius> cwr2nd: and most of the people in here who can help won't do it in private messages.
[12:13] <soundray> cwr2nd, you need to be patient and repeat your question occasionally. I for one am caught up at the moment.
[12:13] <NCLife> Falstius, it opened my dvd-r
[12:14] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, it worked?
[12:14] <cwr2nd> there is my prob
[12:14] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i unmuted everything
[12:14] <AbdulSpiegel> still cant here anything
[12:14] <soundray> cwr2nd, what's your scsi chipset?
[12:14] <Falstius> NCLife: eh, yeah.  Smart.  If you type "mount" is it listed?
[12:14] <Comrade_Vladimir> hold on soundray i gotta check it in nautilus
[12:14] <anthony_> K THANKS GUYS, UNCHECKING THE ENABLE SOUND SERVER STARTUP FIXED MY ISSUE
[12:14] <anthony_> thanks alot
[12:14] <spola> if i have multiple disks, can i make them look like one big disk (instead of mounting them all on a seperate directory) ?
[12:14] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: you're not supposed to unmute _everything_
[12:14] <anthony_> peace
[12:14] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: just what I said
[12:14] <soundray> spola, LVM is your friend.
[12:14] <Falstius> spola: you can only if you have a RAID card that supports it.
[12:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> cool soundray and Nomikos
[12:15] <spola> whats LVM ?
[12:15] <cwr2nd> I am not trying to offen anyone
[12:15] <Falstius> spola: or maybe with some LVM tricks that I don't know anything about.
[12:15] <Comrade_Vladimir> thanks
[12:15] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir, soundray   \o/ :-)
[12:15] <cwr2nd> just new to all this
[12:15] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, this won't be permanent, so read the URL's from ubotu.
[12:15] <Nomikos> (that was a little guy saying "yippie" :-)
[12:15] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, or remember the commands
[12:16] <soundray> Nomikos, cute.
[12:16] <soundray> cwr2nd, what's your scsi chipset?
[12:16] <Comrade_Vladimir> can i make it peminant
[12:16] <Comrade_Vladimir> ?
[12:16] <soundray> !fat32
[12:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[12:16] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, read this.
[12:16] <Falstius> cwr2nd: can you type "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" and see if your hard drives are listed there?  you can put the output in the pastebin if you want.
[12:17] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray cant u just tell me?
[12:17] <NCLife> Falstius, on the pm.. i cant find it there.. but maybe you?
[12:17] <Falstius> pm?
[12:17] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, no. Two reasons: I'll make mistakes like I did with the mount commands above, and I'm trying to help someone else now.
[12:17] <NCLife> /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:17] <NCLife> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[12:17] <NCLife> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[12:17] <NCLife> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:17] <NCLife> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:17] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, unfortunately i still cant hear anything
[12:17] <NCLife> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:17] <NCLife> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[12:17] <NCLife> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[12:17] <NCLife> there :p
[12:18] <Falstius> NCLife: please use the paste bin.
[12:18] <cwr2nd> it's an into a100u2w
[12:18] <void^> mm spam
[12:18] <cwr2nd> pci
[12:18] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, an even better reason: I'm giving you a chance to learn about your system :)
[12:18] <NCLife> ok, sorry
[12:18] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: you can make it permanent but it involves editing the fstab file which isn't easy. the script that link goes to will do it for you, if you follow the instructions in the comments
[12:18] <NCLife> where is the paste bin?
[12:18] <Nomikos> doh
[12:19] <Nomikos> he left
[12:19] <NCLife> well... anyways, i dont see it mounted on "mount"
[12:19] <Nomikos> NCLife: http://pastebin.com/
[12:19] <bimberi> NCLife: in /topic and '/msg ubotu pastebin'
[12:20] <NCLife> oks
[12:20] <Aton> i still cant mount the flopy
[12:20] <Aton> i can only format it
[12:20] <Nomikos> NCLife: just make sure you never accidentally put sensitive info in there :-)
[12:20] <Falstius> my wife is stealing me now.  bye bye
[12:20] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, when i typed 'es
[12:21] <NCLife> heh, i will Nomikos :) thanks for the advice
[12:21] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, when i typed 'esd' into terminal it made weird sounds and that volume meter thing kinda worked
[12:21] <AbdulSpiegel> i dont know why i cant here anything
[12:21] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: paste amixer output again
[12:21] <void^> Aton: format it with a filesystem you can read, then?
[12:21] <soundray> Nomikos, people like Comrade_Vladimir need to be told at some point to RTFM in my opinion.
[12:21] <NCLife> Nomikos, maybe you can help me? it seems my ipod is unmounted but it still has the message "do not disconnect"
[12:22] <Nomikos> soundray: correct. i was about to tell him to "man fstab" as well, but he ran off
[12:22] <NCLife> ive tried "eject ipod_name" eject /dev/sda2" and "sudo eject" :(
[12:22] <Nomikos> NCLife: uhm. i have only ever once seen an ipod i think... have you tried umount?
[12:23] <soundray> Nomikos, anyway, we did a good job there :)
[12:23] <Aton> hum i formated it on fat and ext2 cant mount it
[12:23] <Nomikos> soundray: :-)
[12:23] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, okay here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5939
[12:23] <bud_> hello
[12:23] <soundray> cwr2nd, still here?
[12:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> soundray srry can i have that mount command again i lost it when i copied music
[12:23] <Nomikos> Comrade_Vladimir: oh, and read "man fstab" as well :-)
[12:23] <bud_> need help over xfce4
[12:23] <bud_> or xubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: did you mute 'Master Digital'?
[12:23] <Comrade_Vladimir> yeahyeah
[12:24] <NCLife> yes, i think its unmounted but not still with the "do not disconnect" message, ill look on the forums
[12:24] <cwr2nd> can some one please help via pvt?
[12:24] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: (you don't appear to have)
[12:24] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, 'sudo umount /dev/hda1 ; sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win'
[12:24] <Aton> hum i formated the disket on fat and than ext2 cant mount it
[12:24] <void^> Aton: specify the filesystem using -t
[12:24] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, you can leave out the umount.
[12:24] <soundray> Comrade_Vladimir, please also do some rtfm.
[12:25] <bud_> menu on right click doesnt work
[12:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> just leave it at the command thanks
[12:25] <bud_> and cant set wallpapers
[12:25] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i dont believe i did, infact its unmuted and turned up all the way
[12:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> thanks
[12:25] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: right, mute it.
[12:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> cya
[12:25] <AbdulSpiegel> ok
[12:25] <TheG> What can I do if Grub always tells me "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition."??
[12:25] <Aton> heh ~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[12:25] <Aton>  this worked like charm
[12:25] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, now the staticy sound is gone
[12:26] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: does ''aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' work?
[12:26] <void^> Aton: guessing filesystems doesn't always work, especially with removable media
[12:26] <crimsun> Aton: a much easier method is using pmount
[12:26] <soundray> cwr2nd, have you got someone, because I can't seem to pm you.
[12:26] <bud_> anyone had same problem with xfce on ubuntu
[12:26] <Aton> well im a newbie
[12:27] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun,  its playing but i can not hear it
[12:27] <Aton> i am switching from windows to linux
[12:27] <Aton> so heh if you could me more specified
[12:27] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: mute 'Line'
[12:28] <Aton> and how the heck should i add a permision to write on it?!?
[12:28] <crimsun> Aton: ''pmount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy'' works
[12:29] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, woah i can hear it, but the set is weird. I can still see the red 'x' on the volume control icon. and i have line, cd, and microphone muted.
[12:29] <Aton> how do i make it writable?!?
[12:29] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: but you can hear the music, correct?
[12:29] <void^> if you use vfat you need to mount it with some special option like umask=2, if it's ext2 or any real fs you can simply do chown youruser /mount/point
[12:29] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, yes i can
[12:30] <jron> is there any reason winex isn't in the software repo?
[12:30] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: good.
[12:30] <Nomikos> soundray: thanks again, going to get some stuff done now that i can write to it again :-) - laters
[12:30] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, whats the deal with the 'x'?
[12:30] <soundray> Nomikos, cheers
[12:30] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: change the control. Volume Control> Preferences
[12:30] <AbdulSpiegel> to?
[12:30] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: set it to 'PCM'
[12:30] <jron> AbdulSpiegel, are you alking to me?
[12:30] <jron> nm.
[12:31] <AbdulSpiegel> no crimsun m8
[12:31] <mirak> can we write ntfs now ?
[12:31] <maximumbob> GRAHRG
[12:31] <TheG> What can I do if Grub always tells me "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition."??
[12:31] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, just PCM?
[12:31] <maximumbob> vsftpd won't let all local users log in! just the main acct!
[12:31] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: if you secondary-click the Volume Control icon in the upper right corner, then choose Preferences, you should be able to select PCM
[12:32] <Aton> well how do i unmount it
[12:32] <soundray> maximumbob, it probably wants its users to be in a particular group.
[12:32] <void^> Aton:  umount /deviceormountpoint
[12:32] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, yup i got the preference but i was just asking if you wanted me to just change it to PCM and uncheck everything else?
[12:32] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: echo "snd-cs4236" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[12:32] <maximumbob> soundtray: I set it to use the file I tell it to allow ... hmm ... well I'll try setting the other user to 1000
[12:32] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: just change it to PCM.
[12:32] <Belgain> hi there, quick question: what's the filesize limit on an ext3 filesystem?  and how does it relate to the chunk size?
[12:33] <Aton> at first it said only root can unmount
[12:33] <soundray> maximumbob, I'm not following, but you seem to know what you're doing.
[12:33] <Aton> and than it just unmounted itself
[12:33] <Aton> strange
[12:34] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i typed: echo "snd-cs4236" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules, into terminal and it outputted : snd-cs4236
[12:34] <Aton> how the hell do i write on a disket?!?
[12:34] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: good. Now it will work whenever you boot.
[12:35] <soundray> Aton, you want some generic newbie advice?
[12:35] <Aton> jes
[12:35] <Aton> please
[12:35] <AbdulSpiegel> sweet
[12:35] <Aton>  hope ill never am going to use a diskete again
[12:35] <Aton> but gotta get this on
[12:35] <void^> diskettes are indeed evil
[12:35] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, thank you so much crimsun; i
[12:35] <maximumbob> soundtray: it worked, but I don't want to keep it this way
[12:35] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: np
[12:35] <soundray> Aton 1) if you get advice like "check out pmount", enter "man pmount" and read the manual. 2) Please don't swear at the people you are asking for help.
[12:36] <maximumbob> soundtray: I had to make the acct I wanted to have ftp access a superuser
[12:36] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, i've tried countless times and never successed except today :) Your the best!
[12:36] <Aton> oh sorry
[12:37] <Matrix> hi i need help to play doom 3
[12:37] <bob832> the program in System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts : does anyone know where it stores it conf files?
[12:38] <soundray> Belgain, since no one is answering: I'm not sure, but the size limit is somewhere in the terabyte range. Chunk size I don't know about, but this kind of information you will find on the web, if you search for comparisons of the relative merits of different filesystems.
[12:38] <scanwinder> ive got some dependency problems with apt which i cant seem to solve.......im trying to install gcc-4.0 and it says "Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) but 4.0.2-5 is to be installer
[12:38] <juanwalker> Hey guys, why doesnt appear firefox 1.5 in ubuntu-backports?
[12:38] <learnfromscratch> are there any issues with automake and debian.. when ever i do automake in debian i get the error " no Makefile.am found or specified" although i have a Makefile.am in the same folder.. when i do strace i find that it is trying to search for a file Makefile\\.am .. i dont know why it has added a double back slash .. any suggestions ? the same stuff works in fedora.. though i like debian.. and want it to work in debian..
[12:38] <scanwinder> and also with cpp-4.0 it says it depends on it
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know how to make xorg invert all colors?
[12:39] <Matrix> somebody know this problem Unknown command 'vid_restart'
[12:39] <Matrix> idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
[12:39] <Matrix> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[12:39] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, oh i dont mean to ask for too much but can you show me how to get Flash to work on Firefox, it doesn't work when i try to get firefox to do it
[12:39] <juanwalker> also other latest versoions of many programs
[12:39] <juanwalker> it'so abandoned
[12:39] <Matrix> please help?
[12:39] <juanwalker> and to old
[12:40] <juanwalker> too
[12:40] <cwr2nd> sorry soundry mistook your pvt msg w/ the ? as a helpful hand
[12:40] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: echo FIREFOX_DSP=none >> ~/.mozilla-firefoxrc
[12:40] <NCLife> nope.. i cant get any information on the forums.. when i try to eject my ipod with "eject /dev/sda2" i get the error message "unable to open /dev/sda2"
[12:40] <soundray> scanwinder, are you on dapper?
[12:40] <soundray> cwr2nd, how are you getting on?
[12:40] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, nothing happened i typed: echo FIREFOX_DSP=none >> ~/.mozilla-firefoxrc , into terminal
[12:41] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: correct. Now restart firefox.
[12:41] <cwr2nd> very frusturated
[12:41] <Matrix> help
[12:41] <soundray> cwr2nd, I remember you can't mount your disks. Can you see them in /proc/scsi/scsi?
[12:41] <scanwinder> sondray: whats dapper?
[12:41] <NCLife> anyone that could help me?
[12:41] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, okay
[12:42] <scanwinder> soundray: wahts dapper
[12:42] <cwr2nd> can we go pvt please?
[12:42] <SAM_theman> why does firefox keep on crashing?
[12:43] <soundray> scanwinder, it's the unstable version of Ubuntu. I'm asking because 4.0.2 should not be in the current stable version, which is Breezy.
[12:43] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, you fucking rock man, lol excusse me, its awesome everything i've ever wanted works, flash, sound!
[12:43] <scanwinder> soundray: oh.....im in breezy
[12:43] <Johnson> can some one help me do some compilign i jsut downloaded super karamba and i gto past ./configure but when i come to the make part it come up with an error
[12:43] <scanwinder> soundray: well for some reason thats whats installed
[12:43] <Johnson> any help plz???
[12:44] <crimsun> AbdulSpiegel: np
[12:44] <scanwinder> soundray: and just from breezy repositories.....i tried disabling all other repositories
[12:44] <ajreznicek_> hello?
[12:45] <SAM_theman> Deer Park (Ubuntu 6.04) has firefox 1.5 and gnome 2.13.2 or 2.13.3
[12:45] <SAM_theman> yo
[12:45] <scanwinder> soundray: wait, i didnt re-install the packages....how do i get it to downgrade the package?
[12:45] <soundray> scanwinder, with pinning, but I can't remember how you do it.
[12:45] <Mercutio150> Hello, anyone know if there is a channel for help with video formats here?
[12:45] <ajreznicek_> is anybody there?
[12:45] <Johnson> sorry i locked up any ideas
[12:46] <soundray> scanwinder, check out the menu in Synaptic for ways to lock a particular version.
[12:46] <Belgain> soundtray: are you sure about filesize limits being in the terabyte range?  I'm asking about the max size of a single file, not the total size of the device
[12:46] <Amaranth> !tell Mercutio150 about w32codecs
[12:46] <TheG> What can I do if Grub always tells me "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition."??
[12:46] <Belgain> is this table correct? http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/apas04.html
[12:46] <ajreznicek_> what re ya'll talking about
[12:46] <sig> after this laptop runs for a few days all apps fail to start. I get cannot write errors and have to reboot
[12:46] <sig> anyone else get this?
[12:46] <Mercutio150> I have all the codecs to play, I am trying to convert formats like avi to vcd
[12:47] <Amaranth> sig: sounds like / got remounted read-only
[12:47] <NCLife> join #kubuntu
[12:47] <xRaal> !tell xRaal about w32codecs
[12:47] <NCLife> arg
[12:47] <NCLife> sorry
[12:47] <Amaranth> sig: which usually means the HD is dying
[12:47] <soundray> Belgain, for files I'm not sure, but I know that they can be way bigger than the 2GB files in FAT.
[12:47] <sig> not good
[12:47] <sig> this is a sony vaio and is only 2 years old
[12:47] <Amaranth> sig: boot from a live CD and fsck it
[12:47] <joules> Belgain: do a ulimit -a from the terminal and see if you are limited on max file size
[12:47] <sig> I've done that
[12:47] <Amaranth> sig: there is a reason the warranty on HDs is only one year :P
[12:47] <Johnson> dose any one know how to compile here?
[12:47] <ajreznicek_> i'm new to ubuntu
[12:48] <soundray> Belgain, that table looks good.
[12:48] <sig> Amaranth: most places sell laptop HD's ?
[12:48] <cmatheson> !tell Johnson about anyone
[12:48] <soundray> cwr2nd, I still can't seem to pm you.
[12:48] <Amaranth> sig: i dunno
[12:48] <sig> crappy
[12:48] <Amaranth> sig: they're more expensive than regular HDs, i know that
[12:48] <ajreznicek_> is anybody  even listening to me?
[12:48] <sig> I guess I'll run a backup
[12:48] <bur[n] er> anyone make a .deb of the gaim 2 beta?
[12:48] <sig> thanks Amaranth
[12:48] <Amaranth> ajreznicek_: have you asked a question?
[12:48] <Johnson> please can some one tell me plz
[12:49] <xRaal> ajreznicek_: dont ask to ask, just ask
[12:49] <Johnson> its just the make file i cant get past
[12:49] <soundray> ajreznicek_, there are currently many more questions than people who can answer. Please be patient and re-ask your question occasionally.
[12:49] <Amaranth> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[12:49] <soundray> Johnson, there are currently many more questions than people who can answer. Please be patient and re-ask your question occasionally.
[12:49] <BrownMan> Hi, everytime the load splash screen dissapears and the login screen appears the screen resolution screws up to 680x480
[12:49] <Johnson> lol
[12:49] <BrownMan> whats going on?
[12:49] <Johnson> i knw
[12:49] <cmatheson> !tell Johnson about question
[12:49] <joules> Johnson: what are you trying to compile? did you install a gcc?
[12:49] <soundray> cwr2nd, ping
[12:50] <LasseL> can you recommend any software that will convert a dvd to divx format?
[12:50] <Amaranth> Johnson: what errors your getting would be helpful for finding a solution
[12:50] <Johnson> i dont think so im trying to install super karamba
[12:50] <bur[n] er> Johnson: better yet, you get build-essential?
[12:50] <MrRio> how do ui get the menu entry for the run app dialogue back?
[12:50] <Johnson> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:50] <Johnson> thts the error i got
[12:50] <cafuego> !start a distro war
[12:50] <ubotu> cafuego: What?
[12:50] <soundray> ubotu, tell scanwinder about pinning
[12:51] <cmatheson> Johnson: did you bother reading the INSTALL file?
[12:51] <BrownMan> hey can anyone help me out here? everytime the load splash screen dissapears and the login screen appears the screen resolution screws up to 680x480...should be the 1080x720......it was working fine a week ago
[12:51] <Johnson> yeh
[12:51] <soundray> scanwinder, read ubotu's message pls.
[12:51] <Johnson> it said do the configure then after tha do make
[12:51] <cmatheson> BrownMan: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[12:51] <Amaranth> !fixres
[12:51] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:51] <cwr2nd> try again
[12:51] <cmatheson> Johnson: so did you configure?
[12:51] <soundray> cafuego, Mepis sucks, Knoppix rocks.
[12:51] <scanwinder> soundray: ok thanks
[12:51] <Johnson> yep tht went nice and smooth
[12:52] <randabis> !distro war
[12:52] <ubotu> randabis: I give up, what is it?
[12:52] <cmatheson> maximumbob: leave poor little apt alone
[12:52] <randabis> it's albert einstein's cryogenically frozen head
[12:52] <maximumbob> cmatheson: an app's config dir got messed up, so I apt-get remove'd it, rm'd the faulty dir,
[12:52] <Belgain> is the only disadvantage of having a large block size that lots of small files take up more space, or is there another reason to keep a small block size?
[12:52] <maximumbob> cmatheson: then apt-get installed it again
[12:53] <maximumbob> but it didn't remake the config dir
[12:53] <maximumbob> so is all screwed up
[12:53] <cmatheson> maximumbob: that's not part of the package then.  did you check dpkg -L package_name
[12:53] <soundray> Belgain, I'm sure you can find plenty of other disadvantages, but most of them are in the theoretical realm.
[12:53] <maximumbob> cmatheson: /etc/apache2 is part of the package apache2 :p
[12:53] <Johnson> dose synaptic work in KDE???
[12:54] <cmatheson> Johnson: yes
[12:54] <Belgain> good.... so ext3 with 4k blocks should give plenty of headroom for large files / large filesystems... thanks
[12:54] <soundray> Belgain, probably if you read a large number of small files in succession, a small block size means better performance.
[12:54] <Johnson> ok and i need gcc and build essentials yes?
[12:54] <ajreznicek_> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[12:54] <Belgain> yeah, this will be for storing audio/video files, so small files aren't an issue
[12:54] <Eighth> i'm running breezy on an inspiron 3800. xmms audio skips/stutters pretty badly. i have dma enabled. i've read about others having this problem, but have found no solutions. can someone help, plz?
[12:55] <bimberi> Johnson: only if you want to compile stuff, and you'll only need build-essential (gcc is a dependency)
[12:55] <scanwinder> soundray: it seems that the stuff at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto dosent stop it trying to remove all the packages dependencys
[12:55] <Johnson> ok so i dont need it to do the make after the./configure
[12:55] <bimberi> Johnson: ah, yes you'll need build-essential if you're doing that :)
[12:56] <Johnson> ok thx
[12:56] <soundray> scanwinder, can I give you another RTFM type source?
[12:56] <scanwinder> soundray: yes
[12:57] <soundray> scanwinder, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/1952217
[12:57] <ajreznicek_> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[12:57] <maximumbob> ahhh! kjhlasdfhjkashd ubuntu
[12:58] <ajreznicek_> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[12:58] <soundray> scanwinder, I find this type of problem is difficult to solve on IRC. Do feel free to ask everyone again, though. You may yet find an expert.
[12:58] <cmatheson> ajreznicek_: hey you said that exact same thing two lines ago
[12:59] <randabis> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[12:59] <maximumbob> methinks ajreznicek_==randabis
[12:59] <soundray> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[12:59] <soundray> sorry guys :)
[12:59] <maximumbob> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[12:59] <MrRio> soundray: yeah i do
[12:59] <kevogod> does anybody here read the linux format magazine?
[01:00] <bimberi> !anybody
[01:00] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:00] <bimberi> :P
[01:00] <randabis> :)
[01:00] <randabis> ha
[01:00] <soundray> MrRio, I don't, but ajreznicek_ may want to talk to you :)
[01:00] <MrRio> lol
[01:00] <randabis> !no
[01:00] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[01:01] <john_> anyone know what repository the video codecs are in?
[01:01] <cafuego> !w32codecs
[01:01] <pusling> is it correct that multiverse is non-free software just like restricted ?
[01:01] <cafuego> !restricted
[01:01] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:01] <cafuego> john_: Go to the url ubotu just pasted
[01:01] <john_> k
[01:02] <maximumbob> I'll admit, ubuntu is the hardest thing in the world to configure :-/
[01:02] <bimberi> pusling: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[01:02] <ajreznicek_> one of the coverdisks comes with a live cd version of ubuntu. I need to know if there is any way to install it to your hard drive. i haven't found a way yet, although i'm fairly new to linux. can anybody help me?
[01:02] <randabis> maximumbob: i think gentoo is harder to configure
[01:03] <maximumbob> it's been 20 hours, and httpd is running, but can't be stopped, and vsftpd will only let superusers connect, etc...
[01:03] <Kyral> I concur with randabis
[01:03] <maximumbob> perhaps
[01:03] <pusling> bimberi: thx
[01:03] <Kyral> maximumbob: for a standard Desktop user
[01:03] <Kyral> its easy
[01:03] <bimberi> pusling: np :)
[01:03] <jron> gentoo was easier imho....
[01:03] <Kyral> but then again I know nothing about servers
[01:03] <maximumbob> mm... I guess when I was reccomended ubuntu, they didn't know I was going to be serving
[01:03] <maximumbob> my needs aren't very much
[01:03] <mike-e> HI i cannot find the mount address for my second hard drive, my porn is getting lonely.
[01:03] <randabis> meh it all depends on what you do with it
[01:04] <maximumbob> I need apache,php,mysql,mpd,mpc,and vsftpd
[01:04] <jron> debian is cracked out.
[01:04] <dr_psikick> im trying to instal ubuntu in my laptop, and i could use some help... i'm selecting the partitions (have windows instaled) what should i do when selecting the partitions. and what about dual boot?
[01:04] <randabis> i guess i like crack then
[01:04] <mike-e> dr_psikick, delete the windows directory, and be happy
[01:05] <bimberi> ajreznicek_: no you can't install from the LiveCD, there might be some way to copy the CD contents to a HDD and boot from it but i ton't know of a HowTo for that
[01:05] <bimberi> *don't
[01:05] <dr_psikick> mike_e, and there isnt other way?
[01:05] <soundray> dr_psikick, of course, Ubuntu sets up dual boot by default.
[01:06] <mike-e> dr_psikick, what sort of partitions are we talking, are you trying to resize ntfs partitiions or ?
[01:06] <bimberi> dr_psikick: yes there is, you can resize if windows is taking up all the space
[01:06] <dr_psikick> i got 2 partitions 1-windows(ntfs), 2-default raw
[01:06] <bimberi> dr_psikick: ... but back up first
[01:07] <dr_psikick> i want to instal in the n2
[01:07] <Sayz> Where can I get system requirements for Ubuntu
[01:07] <Kyral> Sayz: Its been known to run on a 400 MHz with 128 MB RAm and a 4 GB HD
[01:07] <Kyral> Sayz: but thats the absoulute minimal :P
[01:07] <cafuego> Sayz: 128Mb ram minimum for the X version.
[01:07] <Sayz> Ok, so about 4 gigs of space?
[01:07] <cafuego> Sayz: 512 would be ideal
[01:08] <cafuego> Sayz: The normal setup needs 2GB minimum.
[01:08] <Kyral> Sayz: Again the absolute minimal :P
[01:08] <mike-e> sayz: i run it on 128mb ram with xfce
[01:08] <bimberi> dr_psikick: the installer will be able to install in the raw partition
[01:08] <cmatheson> Sayz: depending on how you configure it you could run it on just about anything
[01:08] <Sayz> Sweet
[01:08] <mike-e> yeah dude, xfce is resource friendly
[01:08] <Kyral> Basically if you can run XP on it, you can run Ubuntu 10x faster :D
[01:08] <MoonRanger> i just upgraded to FIreFox 1.5 and now i cant load the browser at all .. i get this message "Firefox Could Not Install This Item Because Of A Failure In Chrome Registration." how can i fix it or go back to 1.0.7
[01:08] <Sayz> Do you know if it can be run from an external hard drive?
[01:09] <Kyral> uhh
[01:09] <scanwinder> soundray: i got it sorted....i just had to install the older packages using dpkg
[01:09] <cmatheson> Sayz: sure
[01:09] <Kyral> I've HEARD of it working
[01:09] <bimberi> dr_psikick: take care though, it does offer to use the whole drive
[01:09] <dooglus> MoonRanger: make a new profile
[01:09] <soundray> scanwinder, I'm glad.
[01:09] <cmatheson> Sayz: it will probably be crazy slow though
[01:09] <Sayz> I bet
[01:09] <scanwinder> soundray: thanks
[01:09] <soundray> cmatheson, Sayz, it won't necessarily be slow
[01:09] <Sayz> But first I would need a way to boot from that drive, right?
[01:09] <Kyral> Well if you use one of those new External SATA ones...
[01:09] <Kyral> Sayz: yah
[01:09] <Sayz> Great
[01:10] <Sayz> Hmm
[01:10] <dooglus> MoonRanger: "firefox -P" (if it's the official mozilla build)
[01:10] <Sayz> I have an internal 10 gig
[01:10] <factotum> whats -P? purge?
[01:10] <Sayz> Maybe it would be better to install on that one and use the external for storage
[01:10] <Kyral> I have a combined 460 GB
[01:10] <mike-e> sayz: my hard drives are all less than 5gig large, and like, 1000 rpm lol
[01:10] <dooglus> factotum: "Profile Manager"
[01:10] <dr_psikick> bimberi, i chose the raw and then i opens another dialogue box, where i need to chose a lot of preferences to the partition, that's my problem...
[01:10] <factotum> heh alright, just curious
[01:10] <Kyral> 30 of that is for the RootFS
[01:10] <randabis> kde runs pretty well on this 450mhz p3 with 192mb of ram
[01:11] <soundray> Sayz, if you set up a partition on the internal one, you'll make your life easier, even if it's just a small boot partition (200MB)
[01:11] <void^> if it's usb2 there's no problem, usb1 is quite sluggish.
[01:11] <Kyral> Ick KDE (And I say this only because when I tried it roday it jumped up to 360 MB RAM being used out of 512)
[01:11] <dooglus> usb1 transfer something like 1Mb per second.  usb2 is about 10 times faster?
[01:11] <scanwinder> Im trying to compile gaim-2.0.0beta1 and, when i go ./configure, im getting the following error
[01:11] <scanwinder> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables          how do i fix that?
[01:11] <bimberi> dr_psikick: ok, tell us what's puzzling you
[01:11] <void^> (and to boot usb directly you need some luck with the bios)
[01:11] <randabis> hmm
[01:11] <dooglus> scanwinder: install "build-essential"
[01:11] <factotum> im running fluxbox on a pentiumMMX 166 with 64 megs of ram, works as well as it probably could.
[01:11] <scanwinder> dooglus: ok thanks
[01:11] <randabis> kde flies on my home system...go figure
[01:11] <Kyral> Yeah....why DON'T we install GCC by default...
[01:11] <factotum> still a usable system
[01:12] <mike-e> death to kde
[01:12] <Kyral> randabis: maybe I'm just used to my Fluxbox :D
[01:12] <dr_psikick> what file system, mount options, label...
[01:12] <cmatheson> that is lame that gcc isn't on there by default... this is linux after all
[01:12] <Kyral> Damnit I didn't mean to start a WM War
[01:12] <seth_k|lappy> Kyral, because grandma doesn't need GCC
[01:12] <void^> grandma's system maintainer needs gcc
[01:12] <Kyral> seth_k|lappy: but it should be there, admit it
[01:12] <factotum> Kyral: I was too, used slackware for about 2.5 years, that all I ran was either fluxbox or enlightenment
[01:12] <esaul> hello
[01:13] <seth_k|lappy> Kyral, nope. The people who need it know how to install it. And it's a ship-seed, so it's all good.
[01:13] <Kyral> I <3 The Flux
[01:13] <oneseventeen> how do I change the volume without using the gnome panel widget thing?
[01:13] <popey> the people who install rootkits need gcc, they don't need any helping along by installing it for them
[01:13] <soundray> seth_k|lappy, what's a ship-seed?
[01:13] <mike-e> flux is boring
[01:13] <cmatheson> oneseventeen: alsamixer
[01:14] <factotum> yeah flux is boring, thats why i used it.
[01:14] <seth_k|lappy> soundray, shipped on the CD, but not installed by default.
[01:14] <Kyral> It doesn't get in my way and looks damn nice
[01:14] <esaul> anyone know hwo to install a hp3520 printer
[01:14] <bimberi> dr_psikick: ok, you will need 2 partitions, one for the linux filesystem and one for swap
[01:14] <Kyral> this is why I like Flux :D
[01:14] <mike-e> SO
[01:14] <bimberi> dr_psikick: swap is usually 2x the amount of RAM in your PC.
[01:14] <soundray> seth_k|lappy, thanks.
[01:14] <mirak> bimberi: not anymore
[01:15] <factotum> flux is great with GIMP, just click a tab instead of having everything scattered everywhere
[01:15] <mike-e> flux or fluxbox?
[01:15] <CarlFK> how do I reset the dns cache?
[01:15] <factotum> box
[01:15] <mirak> bimberi: if you have a 1G of ram you will not want 2G of swap
[01:15] <mike-e> yeah it looked boring to me
[01:15] <bimberi> dr_psikick: looks like mirak knows better than I ...
[01:15] <julu> hello
[01:15] <mike-e> hey I have a secondary drive full of music and porn, i can't seem to find the appropriate /dev/* mounting address, any idears?
[01:16] <vininim> why not have 2G swap?
[01:16] <popey> hehe
[01:16] <factotum> then stick with what you like ;)
[01:16] <CarlFK> if you *need* 1G of ram, then you will want 2G of swap
[01:16] <mirak> vininim: because you have few chances filling it
[01:16] <soundray> mike-e, it's probably hidden for ethical reasons.
[01:16] <mike-e> soundray, perhaps heheh
[01:16] <mirak> CarlFK: I see no reason for that
[01:16] <dr_psikick> i know nothing, i got 256ram
[01:16] <popey> granted these are big iron with massive apps on them
[01:16] <mike-e> soundray, any ideas?
[01:16] <CarlFK> mirak: reason for 1G of ram?
[01:16] <Siph0n> hey
[01:16] <factotum> heh, i have a gig of ram, since i switched i barely use half of it
[01:16] <mirak> no 2G of swap
[01:16] <NCLife> buh, i cant eject my ipod :(
[01:17] <oneseventeen> cmatheson: thanks, alsamixer worked great!
[01:17] <soundray> mike-e, how is the drive connected?
[01:17] <CarlFK> im not the one that spent $200 on ram.. ;)
[01:17] <vininim> mirak: usually if you have 1GB of RAM, you would use it
[01:17] <factotum> ever
[01:17] <mike-e> soundray, ide
[01:17] <mike-e> NCLife, are ipods usb?
[01:17] <Siph0n> i messed up my .ICEauthority directory or sometin, now i cant log in... ne way to get that directory back?
[01:17] <soundray> mike-e, same cable as your main disk?
[01:17] <mirak> vininim: I am not sure I understand the discussion anymore
[01:17] <mike-e> soundray, yessir
[01:17] <NCLife> mike-e, yes, my ipod is connected via usb
[01:17] <mirak> vininim: you would use what ?
[01:17] <mike-e> NCLife, pull it off the cable?
[01:17] <vininim> all of it
[01:17] <soundray> mike-e, what does fdisk -l /dev/hdb give you?
[01:17] <factotum> do ipods work with .ogg?
[01:18] <NCLife> yes, but i dont like to do that.. i would prefer to eject it properly
[01:18] <mirak> vininim: the ram or the swap ?
[01:18] <vininim> the reason why you bought 1GB of RAM is because you would use it.. right?
[01:18] <NCLife> mike-e, any idea how?
[01:18] <soundray> factotum, only if you install Linux on them.
[01:18] <NCLife> or anyone :p
[01:18] <void^> NCLife: run mount, see if it's there
[01:18] <mike-e> ./dev/hdb1   *           1        1026     8241313+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:18] <An_Alias> eh, does amibios have any issues detecting boot disks?
[01:18] <factotum> hmm.. I want to get a portible player sooner or later, something that works well with linux and supports either mp3 or ogg
[01:18] <mirak> vininim: if I have 1G of ram and 512mo of swap, then if I buy 512mo of ram in plus, I see not much reasons to even keep the swap
[01:18] <NCLife> void^, what should it say if its mounted?
[01:18] <dr_psikick> swap partition is logical or primary
[01:19] <mike-e> soundray, /dev/hdb1   *           1        1026     8241313+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:19] <soundray> factotum, check out iRiver
[01:19] <void^> the device and the mountpoint.
[01:19] <factotum> soundray: thanks, i'll check it out
[01:19] <NCLife> void^, no, i dont think it is on mount then
[01:19] <vininim> mirak, virtual memory exists for a reason
[01:19] <Kyral> pstree is a wonderful thing
[01:19] <void^> all set, then
[01:19] <soundray> mike-e, okay, 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb1 /mnt'
[01:19] <vininim> a process can address more than 2GB
[01:20] <An_Alias> because for some reason or another, it refuses to recognise my amd64 installation disk, even with the boot devices set in the right order
[01:20] <factotum> soundray: wow, those are some funky looking players!
[01:20] <NCLife> void^, but i still get the "do not disconnect" message
[01:20] <vininim> and yeah, the average user won't use more than 512MB, specially in linux
[01:20] <soundray> mike-e, perhaps replace /mnt with a more sensible mountpoint: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/porn'
[01:20] <mike-e> soundray, i get an error, i think from earlier when i was mounting it to arbitrary places
[01:20] <mike-e> soundray, i have the mounting point created
[01:20] <Kyral> If I'm swapping I'm usually doing something like compiling
[01:20] <void^> NCLife: i don't have an ipod, but if it's not mounted there is no data to be lost.
[01:20] <Kyral> the kernel
[01:21] <soundray> mike-e, check if it's still mounted somewhere with 'mount' by itself
[01:21] <mirak> vininim: sure, but if you never had a out of memory problem with 1G ram +512mo of swap, then there is little chances you will have one with 1,5G of ram and 0 byte of swap.
[01:21] <soundray> mike-e, or 'mount | grep hdb'
[01:21] <factotum> but i dont think i wanna pay 299.99 for a gig of storage
[01:21] <mike-e> soundray, nothing
[01:21] <vininim> mirak, according to patterson and gates, software is a gas. :)
[01:21] <mike-e> soundray, i had this drive mounted on ubuntu hoary hedgehog then debian sarge, now back to ubuntu
[01:21] <mirak> vininim: :)
[01:22] <soundray> factotum, I have a PocketPC anyway (hate to admit it), so I put mortplayer and a 1Gig SD card on it. Not cheaper, but more generically useful.
[01:22] <mike-e> i copied /etc/fstab to the drive tho =P
[01:22] <james> hey
[01:22] <soundray> factotum, and plays OGG and MP3
[01:22] <factotum> soundray: thats actually a good idea
[01:22] <soundray> mike-e, they all unmount on shutdown, so don't worry.
[01:22] <NCLife> void^,  okays..
[01:22] <mike-e> soundray, should i reboot?
[01:23] <mirak> vininim: actually I like to play some games some time, and I had 1G of ram + 512 of swap. I tried to remove the swap and got out of memory error. After that I got 512 mo of ram, and I just removed the swap. Windows unlike linux always fill the swap for no reason. that's weird
[01:23] <vininim> I would recommend a swap of the size of the ram. But just because I used dfbsd and memory dump on panic would use it nicely. :)
[01:23] <soundray> mike-e, no, just try it, you won't lose anything (it mounts readonly).
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> How can I choose whether hwclock returns in 12 or 24 hour format?
[01:23] <mike-e> try what?
[01:23] <mike-e> i tried everything you said
[01:23] <soundray> mike-e, so what happened?
[01:24] <mike-e> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1
[01:24] <mike-e> i think it's actually vfat
[01:24] <vininim> I don't know if there is such a thing as memory dump on panic on linux (maybe I need to learn those magic SysRq keys)
[01:24] <Kyral> Core Dumped?
[01:24] <soundray> mike-e, okay, use -t vfat then.
[01:24] <mike-e> i did
[01:24] <mike-e> got the same
[01:25] <soundray> mike-e, I was relying on your partition type. Can be a mistake
[01:25] <soundray> mike-e, what filesystem is really on there?
[01:25] <vininim> Kyral, physical memory dump, used for kernel debugging... anyway, htis is kind of off-topic =P
[01:25] <mike-e> it's probably ext3
[01:25] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I don't know, but have you read man hwclock?
[01:26] <soundray> mike-e, why not try -t ext3 then?
[01:26] <mike-e> i just did, same thing
[01:26] <mike-e> the drive was strictly for music and porn, i remember the /etc/fstab file i copied sat vfat
[01:27] <aztek> I'm using the LiveCD to try and rescue a borked Windows install. I have the Windows drive mounted, how do I change the permissions so I can read it as the default LiveCD user?
[01:27] <soundray> mike-e, well, you may just have to reformat the partition, and boot up your guitar and videocamera to refill it.
[01:27] <wanderer_> hi all, can someone tell an ubuntu trial person here, where i can find what i'm told is called a package for skype for this breezy
[01:27] <mike-e> nonsense
[01:27] <djs> !skype
[01:27] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:27] <aztek> lol nice soundray
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> soundray: I'm trying to find something useful there now.  I'm surprised because it normally displays in 24hr, but right now I'm on a Live CD and it's in 12.
[01:28] <wanderer_> thank you
[01:28] <djs> wanderer_: yw
[01:28] <azuron> how to inverse the left and right of the output screen? just like generating a image looking from the mirror???
[01:29] <azuron> is it possible to achieve that by editing xorg.conf?
[01:29] <factotum> geez, if i knew how to do that, everyone at work would hate me
[01:29] <soundray> azuron, it depends on your video driver. What are you using?
[01:29] <esaul> how do I install hp3520 in linux
[01:29] <azuron> soundray: nvidia 6600gt
[01:30] <azuron> i dont wanna inverse the up and down, but only the left and right.
[01:30] <NCLife> if i want to eject /dev/sda2 and i get a message telling me that "unable to open /dev/sda2", does that mean i need to get root access to be able to open in?
[01:30] <soundray> azuron, I have a feeling that it might not be supported in nvidia.
[01:31] <azuron> it might be supported in ATI/
[01:31] <azuron> ?
[01:31] <soundray> azuron, are you using the free nv or restricted nvidia driver?
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> NCLife, ejecting involves unmounting, which I believe does require root.
[01:31] <azuron> soundray: i don't know, i am just using nvidia driver on ubuntu.
[01:32] <mike-e> damnit
[01:32] <intelikey> NCLife sda2 would ba a partition  no?
[01:32] <mike-e> i think i installed on the old drive
[01:32] <newlinuxd00d> I am running dapper and an update a week ago made it totally unbootable. I have / on an LVM volume. I need to somehow put the lvm stuff in the initrd, anyone know how to go about this?
[01:33] <newlinuxd00d> I got the volume group up mounted and I chrooted into it
[01:33] <Kyral> try reinstalling the kernel?
[01:33] <newlinuxd00d> Kyral, you can't reinstall when you have 0 internet access
[01:33] <NCLife> intelikey, yes.. its my ipod which i think is unmounted, but i still get the "do not disconnect" message
[01:33] <soundray> azuron, to the best of my knowledge, it's not possible with that driver.
[01:33] <newlinuxd00d> I am on that machine from a livecd now
[01:33] <Kyral> newlinuxd00d: uhh....I think yousa in trouble
[01:34] <azuron> soundray: i think i can achieve that by using XRANDR
[01:34] <Kyral> newlinuxd00d: sudo dpkg-reconfigure the kernel?
[01:34] <newlinuxd00d> Kyral, No, there is a way to do it
[01:34] <newlinuxd00d> Kyral, thx, I'll try that
[01:34] <yoav> newbie here - anyone know of a common problem with read only access to rewritable discs?
[01:34] <soundray> azuron, well, yes, there might be possibilities outside the driver.
[01:34] <intelikey> NCLife maybe try sudo eject /dev/sda
[01:34] <hyperactivecrond> how does one  make eterm hide it's menubar?
[01:35] <azuron> soundray: thanks :)
[01:35] <NCLife> intelikey, the same "unable to open /dev/sda"
[01:35] <soundray> azuron, xrandr sounds cool :)
[01:35] <hyperactivecrond> NClife: pastebin your dmesg
[01:35] <azuron> :D
[01:35] <azuron> soundray: thanks for your help, have a nice day
[01:35] <azuron> i gotta work now. :)
[01:35] <SantaD1> clearlooks-cairo is surprisingly fast now
[01:35] <SantaD1> anyone try it yet?
[01:36] <hirak21> sup sup
[01:36] <hirak21> yo i need some help bad :(
[01:36] <NCLife> hyperactivecrond, okay one second
[01:36] <hirak21> i searched everywhere and nobody has the same problem i have
[01:36] <hirak21> i dont think
[01:36] <hirak21> i just installed ubuntu and it did everything fine, i rebooted
[01:36] <hirak21> loads the files to boot
[01:36] <hirak21> after its done loading i dont get a login screen or anything
[01:36] <vininim> any meta-package for a sane development environment? (autotools, make, gcc, libtool,etc..)
[01:36] <hirak21> i just get a black screen with a command prompt on top left but it does not let me type anything
[01:36] <hirak21> ideas?
[01:36] <Kyral> vininim: build-essiential
[01:37] <soundray> tonyyarusso, have you solved the hwclock problem?
[01:37] <Kyral> but spelled right (I always misspell it)
[01:37] <hirak21> :(
[01:37] <hirak21> somone please :*(
[01:37] <hirak21> anybody... :/
[01:37] <soundray> Kyral, bld-snshl
[01:37] <vininim> kyral, thanks
[01:37] <hirak21> plz somone
[01:37] <hirak21> help
[01:37] <Kyral> hirak21: is your keyboard plugged </stupid question>
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> soundray: No, didn't find anything.
[01:37] <popey> hirak21: what type of install did you do?
[01:38] <hirak21> Kyral ofcoarse
[01:38] <popey> hirak21: expert? server?
[01:38] <hirak21> expert
[01:38] <hirak21> :\
[01:38] <hirak21> im a linux noob
[01:38] <Kyral> hirak21: Just wanted to make sure lol
[01:38] <soundray> tonyyarusso, do you just want to know the current time? Use date, it has elaborate format options.
[01:38] <popey> lol
[01:38] <hirak21> this is first time installing ubuntu
[01:38] <hirak21> and i installed slackware before and it worked fine
[01:38] <hirak21> but now im trying to boot ubuntu and it wont let me do crap
[01:38] <hirak21> right before i get the blaack screen with the command prompt top left that does not let me type anything i can type a little briefly
[01:38] <Kyral> hirak21: try the normal install
[01:38] <yoav> hirak21: i'm new myself, but i solved lots of problems by quiting the instalation in the user information setting stage
[01:38] <hirak21> i keep trying to type startx but it wont let me
[01:39] <Kyral> or try logging in
[01:39] <popey> hirak21: have you logged in?
[01:39] <hirak21> i cant type anything
[01:39] <yoav> hirak21: it goes after that into a reboot and a second stage
[01:39] <hirak21> thats the problem
[01:39] <popey> hirak21: what video card do you have?
[01:39] <hirak21> nvidia geforce 4 mx
[01:39] <hirak21> but i try switching to my default intel one
[01:39] <hirak21> and it still does not show anything
[01:39] <Logicmax> anyone here know how to fix grub so that the gnu comes up, i restart and all i get is the console of grub..
[01:39] <popey> nvidia should work okay
[01:40] <NCLife> hyperactivecrond, um.. its www.pastebin.com right? and where should i send it or paste it?
[01:40] <hirak21> yeah i kinda figured
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Well, actually, I first popped it up to see what was up with my time, before smacking myself and realizing that I didn't have the timezone set.  But then I noticed that it was saying 7 PM instead of 19, and thought it odd.
[01:40] <hirak21> any ideas guys?
[01:40] <Kyral> hirak21: try going back and doing a normal install and see if it happens
[01:40] <yoav> hirak21:did you get my tup?
[01:41] <yoav> hirak21: err tip
[01:41] <soundray> tonyyarusso, it is. Maybe it's the South Africa/UK affiliation of some core Ubuntu developers coming through.
[01:41] <hirak21> Kyral what is a 'normal' install
[01:41] <hirak21> cuz it asked me at the beginning server or regular
[01:41] <hirak21> and i just hit enter
[01:41] <Kyral> hirak21: not typing expert or server
[01:41] <Kyral> oh nm
[01:41] <hirak21> thats what i did...
[01:41] <AnonymousHive> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:41] <AnonymousHive>   <<<I get this error message whenever I run ./configure
[01:41] <hirak21> it installs fine and everything
[01:41] <shineykitty> hello everyone
[01:41] <hirak21> i reboot
[01:41] <hirak21> loads the files, says ubuntu in middle
[01:42] <hirak21> then just freezes
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> soundray, How so?
[01:42] <_jason> AnonymousHive, install build-essential
[01:42] <AnonymousHive> thanks, _jason
[01:42] <Spandexx> Hi guys...I have to say I am impressed with Ubuntu
[01:42] <hirak21> and
[01:42] <hirak21> the thing is
[01:42] <shineykitty> when you get a seccond id like to ask a question
[01:42] <hirak21> im not partitioned or anything
[01:42] <hirak21> this is a full HD dedicated to ubuntu
[01:42] <soundray> tonyyarusso, well, isn't the 12h am/pm way of expressing time of day a British thing?
[01:43] <NCLife> hyp
[01:43] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I certainly remember growing up with the 24h system in Germany.
[01:43] <NCLife> hyphenated, http://pastebin.com/471058 there is my dmesg
[01:43] <NCLife> aah, hyperactivecrond i meant
[01:43] <Spandexx> is there any way to install KDE on ubuntu
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> soundray, No idea, in North America here.
[01:44] <NCLife> oh, who has quit irc >_>
[01:44] <Kyral> Spandexx: sudo apt-get install Kubuntu-Desktop
[01:44] <yoav> need help here, again: trying to delete and write over a rewritable cd, and i dont have deleting access for some reason. anyone know of this problem?
[01:44] <Spandexx> is it a good thing to do:  install KDE on ubuntu^
[01:44] <hirak21> :( im about to cry cuz i uninstalled a buncha good files thinking ubuntu would work
[01:44] <djs> Spandexx: sure, if you install kubuntu-desktop you'll get KDE plus apps
[01:44] <vininim> lol
[01:44] <hirak21> now it does not
[01:44] <shineykitty> i am having a small wifi problem with the ubuntu live cd for mac
[01:45] <djs> Spandexx: many think so - it's called kubuntu in fact
[01:45] <djs> :)
[01:45] <hirak21> hello
[01:45] <vininim> when a ./configure gets into a infinte '= yes' loop...
[01:45] <soundray> shineykitty, Airport Extreme?
[01:45] <yoav> hirak21:did you get my tip for you?
[01:45] <Spandexx> Kubuntu have big problem with network card ;)  and big problem with it ;)
[01:45] <Kyral> hit CTRL-C
[01:45] <Spandexx> whent to bugtrack
[01:45] <shineykitty> no it is an airlink super g wifi card
[01:45] <hirak21> yoav what was it again
[01:45] <gnomefreak> is there a repo for gaim like there is for say OOo?
[01:45] <yoav> hirak21: i'm new myself, but i solved lots of problems by quiting the instalation in the user information setting stage
[01:45] <soundray> shineykitty, is there a native Linux driver for it?
[01:46] <Kyral> gnomefreak: I think it might be in Backports
[01:46] <hirak21> yoav
[01:46] <bookofjude> Yo! I installed kubuntu so that I could play around with it, and decided I disliked it. I don't want to uninstall it, though, I just want to change the default login screen from the kubuntu one to the ubuntu one, and not have to constantly select "gnome" from the session type drop down.
[01:46] <hirak21> what do u mean
[01:46] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:46] <bookofjude> Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[01:46] <shineykitty> well i had it running a few minutes ago without a wep key
[01:46] <shineykitty> or any security
[01:46] <hirak21> when did u quit the installation yoav? right when it asks u for information?
[01:46] <shineykitty> but i put on mac filtering and it doesent seem to connect
[01:46] <hirak21> what point of the install is that
[01:46] <gnomefreak> Kyral,  ty
[01:46] <Spandexx> Installed ubuntu and Kubuntu  on a Vm and  with Kubuntu = NIC problems  normal?
[01:46] <Kyral> bookofjude: easy, hit session and find the thing that makes it default
[01:46] <yoav> hirak21: i dont remember how, but i quit the instalation at the point when it asks you to set password etc, and then it went into a reboot and a second stage that went fine
[01:46] <Logicmax> anyone here know how to fix grub after a winxp install?
[01:47] <Kyral> !grub
[01:47] <ubotu> well, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:47] <soundray> shineykitty, so you have MAC filtering, but no encryption?
[01:47] <Kyral> dell500: use the second link :P
[01:47] <dell500> k
[01:47] <dell500> well i did that Kyral
[01:47] <shineykitty> on my router i can do both
[01:47] <Milk_> anyone have the paitence to help me with using qdvdauthor?
[01:47] <bookofjude> Kyral: I assume you mean "Session" in the login screen?
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> soundray, Given that this isn't a big deal, I think I'll let it go for now, and try again when in a more curious mood.
[01:47] <Kyral> bookofjude: yah
[01:47] <dell500> Kyral, i followed the whole howto, but i still get a console of grub, no choices of what to load
[01:47] <soundray> shineykitty, but that's what it's set to right now, right?
[01:48] <shineykitty> but if either is enabled it seems ubuntu wont connect wether i have the key in or not
[01:48] <bookofjude> Kyral: There don't appear to be one.
[01:48] <soundray> tonyyarusso, okay.
[01:48] <shineykitty> mac filter is on right now
[01:48] <Kinection_> how do i get opengl acceleration to work? I just installed the nvidia-glx package through the synaptic package manager
[01:48] <Kyral> bookofjude: on KDM?
[01:48] <shineykitty> wep is off
[01:48] <Kyral> Kinection_: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:48] <bookofjude> Kyral: Oh. Hang on, I'll reboot.
[01:48] <Linuturk> i'm trying to use ndiswrapper, but I've got a problem. I can't tell what *.inf file is associated with my card
[01:48] <MoonRanger> much better ..
[01:48] <Kyral> Kinection_: then restart X with CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[01:48] <soundray> shineykitty, I take it you've double checked that the router has the right MAC address
[01:48] <hirak21> fuck this dude
[01:48] <hirak21> im about to throw linux out the fucking window
[01:48] <yoav> hirak21, give it a whirl, can anybody help my poor ass in the meantime???
[01:48] <Kyral> hirak21: chill
[01:48] <Kinection_> Kyral: thanks
[01:49] <soundray> shineykitty, and that you haven't accidentally used the ethernet MAC?
[01:49] <Kyral> Kinection_: it works if you see the NVidia logo
[01:49] <Spandexx> lol hirak21
[01:49] <shineykitty> yeah it found the mac address of my mac just fine
[01:49] <shineykitty> im using th0
[01:49] <shineykitty> err ath0
[01:49] <shineykitty> and thats for my wifi
[01:49] <Kyral> shineykitty: Athereos Card?
[01:49] <shineykitty> no its airlink
[01:50] <yoav> again: problem deleting a rewrtiable cd, getting : "/media/cdro...-Orion.tif" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk.
[01:50] <shineykitty> but it will work if no encryption or any type of filter is on
[01:50] <mike-e> i need to create an /etc/fstab entry for a usb mp3 player, anyone mind helping?
[01:50] <void^> ath0 = atheros chipset
[01:50] <johnsie2k> Should firefox be using 200mb of my virtual memory?
[01:50] <Kyral> johnsie2k: no....
[01:50] <mrkoje> johnsie2k,  no
[01:50] <Kyral> johnsie2k: what is in the browser window?
[01:50] <Kyral> johnsie2k: Java? Flash?
[01:50] <SaLoMoN> hi ..
[01:50] <Milk_> ok.. more general.. can anyone guide me through making a video DVD from an AVI file?
[01:50] <johnsie2k> yahoo.com
[01:50] <void^> johnsie2k: yes
[01:50] <dooglus> johnsie2k: it usually appears to
[01:50] <Spandexx> 200 mg of VM mem!^
[01:50] <SaLoMoN> is anybody here who is intereted to be ircop on a bigger network
[01:50] <void^> there is nothing wrong with using 200mb virtual memory
[01:51] <Johnson_> hi i need some help
[01:51] <SaLoMoN> somebdy who owns a stable server
[01:51] <void^> it may be inefficient, but doesn't waste real money
[01:51] <dooglus> johnsie2k: I'm not sure if it really does - maybe it's multi-threaded - that can make a process look bigger than it is
[01:51] <Kyral> SaLoMoN: I was about to say yes until you said a stable server ;P
[01:51] <void^> eh, memory. money too.
[01:51] <yoav> can anyone help me?
[01:51] <Spandexx> void? are you kidding?
[01:51] <shineykitty> so i guess ill just have to run without protection till i get my hdd back so i can install os9
[01:51] <Johnson_> how do i find out my kernal version???
[01:51] <Johnson_> in console
[01:52] <bookofjude> Kyral: Hm. I must be blind. There's the "default" option in the drop down list, but I don't see an option to set something as a default.
[01:52] <Kyral> Johnson_: uname -a
[01:52] <djs> Johnson_: uname -r
[01:52] <Johnson_> lol
[01:52] <handshake> hello guys
[01:52] <soundray> shineykitty, what happens now when you try to connect?
[01:52] <Kyral> bookofjude: select a session go into it. It SHOULD ask you if you want to set it as default
[01:52] <Johnson_> thx
[01:52] <soundray> shineykitty, do you use DHCP at all?
[01:52] <bookofjude> Kyral: No round cyllindrical thing.
[01:52] <shineykitty> yes its set up for dhcp
[01:53] <shineykitty> i think i may need to reboot
[01:53] <Kyral> bookofjude: okay....sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:53] <soundray> shineykitty, do you get an address?
[01:53] <bookofjude> Right-o.
[01:53] <shineykitty> hmm?
[01:53] <shineykitty> on the mac pc?
[01:53] <shineykitty> err5r
[01:53] <shineykitty> mac laptop
[01:53] <bookofjude> Thanks for your help!
[01:53] <gangalino> how's breezy? upgrade from hoary?
[01:53] <yoav> heeeeeellllllllllllllllllppppp p. should i come back later?
[01:53] <soundray> shineykitty, before you reboot, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[01:53] <handshake> im having a problem in ubuntu, after i installed ubuntu and run it, the volume control is faded  and when i click on it, it says corrupted registry, try gst -register... the question how can i do this??
[01:53] <shineykitty> where do i type that at?
[01:54] <Jordany> hello
[01:54] <soundray> yoav, you can only erase an entire CDRW
[01:54] <soundray> shineykitty, in a terminal window
[01:54] <Jordany> what
[01:54] <Johnson_> i need some help on how to install the linux i2c-2.9.2 drivers i looked at the install file and it didnt help me any ideas on how to install it anyone?
[01:54] <shineykitty> okay
[01:54] <shineykitty> do i need to deactivate the wifi card?
[01:54] <Spandexx> Void: you haven;t answered...200 mg of VM MEM for an APPS?
[01:54] <Jordany> johnson
[01:54] <soundray> shineykitty, no
[01:54] <void^> Spandexx: not really
[01:54] <yoav> soundry, i think i did try that, but i'll make sure... thanks
[01:55] <Johnson_> jordany. yes
[01:55] <shineykitty> okay
[01:55] <Jordany> *Jordanymanuel@*.tricom.net
[01:55] <handshake> im having a problem in ubuntu, after i installed ubuntu and run it, the volume control is faded  and when i click on it, it says corrupted registry, try gst -register... the question how can i do this??
[01:55] <shineykitty> now should i go ahead and add encryption?
[01:55] <shineykitty> before i restart the network setup stuff?
[01:55] <Jordany> JORDANYMANUEL@HOTMAIL.COM
[01:55] <Kyral> handshake: Console
[01:55] <void^> Spandexx: i recently had a pthread related bug in an app. it used nearly 1gb vmem on a system with less than 500m phys+swap.
[01:56] <bookofjude> handshake: Select "Console" or "Terminal Window" from Applications.
[01:56] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, hey crimsun a quick question m8
[01:56] <hirak21> hey
[01:56] <void^> (physical memory usage was at about 100m)
[01:56] <hirak21> dude
[01:56] <hirak21> ok
[01:56] <soundray> void^, Spandexx, firefox using 488 MB of virtual with ~8 windows and ~20 tabs
[01:56] <Johnson_> any one know how i can install these drivers?
[01:56] <soundray> here
[01:56] <hirak21> ok
[01:56] <hirak21> so
[01:56] <hirak21> back to my problem
[01:56] <hirak21> anbody
[01:56] <hirak21> cmon
[01:56] <void^> however, i agree firefox eats too much memory. easily grows above 100m physical.
[01:56] <yoav> hirak21:no go?
[01:56] <soundray> shineykitty, please just do what I suggest.
[01:56] <AbdulSpiegel> crimsun, are you around still m8?
[01:56] <Spandexx> ok I must dont understand the RAM usage un LINUX
[01:56] <shineykitty> it says no such file or directory
[01:57] <hirak21> yoav u didnt fill me in specific
[01:57] <hirak21> what point are u talking about exit installation before entering user info
[01:57] <soundray> shineykitty, are you on ubuntu?
[01:58] <AbdulSpiegel> Does anyone know how to get .avi, .wmv, .rm etc video files to work?
[01:58] <Kyral> hirak21: enough
[01:58] <Kyral> hirak21: You said Slackware worked, go back to that
[01:58] <shineykitty> my mac is on ubunto
[01:58] <hirak21> u know what i have to do just to install slackware
[01:58] <blindsight> if the joystick package isn't creating nodes for a joystick in /dev or /dev/input is that a bug?
[01:58] <yoav> hirak21, as much as i can. you go through the process, and for me it worked to quit in the user info part, when you set the time zone, user name password etc. but it was my last stage that didnt get stuck. so try exiting instalation there or on the last one working for you
[01:58] <void^> hirak21: be less proud of your inability to deal with problems please
[01:58] <Johnson_> any one got any ideas on how to install the i2c-2.9.2 drivers
[01:58] <shineykitty> ubuntu*
[01:58] <hirak21> i have to reinstall windows
[01:58] <hirak21> downloads slackware
[01:58] <blindsight> for dapper drake sorry
[01:58] <hirak21> burn slackware
[01:58] <hirak21> reinstall slackware
[01:59] <hirak21> hope it works
[01:59] <soundray> shineykitty, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[01:59] <AbdulSpiegel> anyone ??
[01:59] <Spandexx> ubuntu is one of the best linux i have ever installed hirak...
[01:59] <hirak21> im glad
[01:59] <AbdulSpiegel> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME! LOL
[01:59] <hirak21> can somnoe actually help me thoug
[01:59] <soundray> AbdulSpiegel, don't shout.
[01:59] <Kyral> Spandexx: if he is haping problems, then let him use Slack
[01:59] <hirak21> without helping with another question
[01:59] <shineykitty> do i need the '
[01:59] <AbdulSpiegel> soundray, sorry my bad
[01:59] <B1zz> hey hey hey
[01:59] <Spandexx> sure Kyral ;)
[01:59] <hirak21> rofl
[01:59] <AbdulSpiegel> soundray, help me out?
[01:59] <Kyral> hirak21: I have no idea why you cannot type
[01:59] <hirak21> i will help u out
[01:59] <hirak21> dont post here
[01:59] <hirak21> cuz we got smartasses
[02:00] <soundray> AbdulSpiegel, I'm caught up.
[02:00] <AbdulSpiegel> k
[02:00] <Kyral> ....
[02:00] <hirak21> first nobody will help u here
[02:00] <hirak21> cuz they dont know
[02:00] <hirak21> but they will ask u 10000x questions
[02:00] <B1zz> any good typing tutor program with a nice GUI?
[02:00] <hirak21> that lead u to nowhere
[02:00] <hirak21> and in the end they will tell u to reinstall
[02:00] <soundray> !tell AbdulSpiegel about restricted formats
[02:00] <AbdulSpiegel> if your talking to me i acually got alot of hlp here
[02:00] <hirak21> thats basically what i got from being here for 5 minutes
[02:00] <hirak21> AbdulSpiegel did u?
[02:00] <Spandexx> hirak this is normal they are trying to pin point the problem
[02:00] <hirak21> so ur problem is fixed?
[02:00] <yoav> soundry, i selected all contents and deleted, but i got errors on every individual file
[02:00] <Kyral> hirak21: Would you rather me tell you s bunch of stuff that I KNOW won't work?
[02:01] <hirak21> Kyral i would rather U individiual shut up cuz i know u dont know
[02:01] <Spandexx> he boys
[02:01] <n0dl> does anyone know a good way to switch GUI's besides GDM and KDM?
[02:01] <hirak21> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106056
[02:01] <yoav> hirak21, are you like 12?
[02:01] <hirak21> thers my problem
[02:01] <hirak21> first one to help me
[02:01] <hirak21> gets $25 paypal
[02:01] <hirak21> no joke
[02:01] <_jason> we heard this yesterday actually
[02:01] <Kyral> we don't accept money for help
[02:01] <shineykitty> i still get no such file or directory
[02:02] <bookofjude> Kyral: I think that worked. Thanks so much!
[02:02] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:02] <Kyral> bookofjude: no prob
[02:02] <B1zz> any good typing tutor program with a nice GUI?
[02:02] <hirak21> so what do U think is the problem
[02:02] <hirak21> since u know how to pin point
[02:02] <bookofjude> Kyral: Now the real test: GDM or KDM on reboot? :D
[02:02] <jeff303> does anyone know why my computer cannot recover from the new screen power saving modes in Breezy?  used to be fine in Hoary
[02:02] <doskey>  irc.or.id
[02:02] <Kyral> bookofjude: no idea :P
[02:02] <handshake> im having a problem in ubuntu, after i installed ubuntu and run it, the volume control is faded  and when i click on it, it says corrupted registry, try gst -register... the question how can i do this??
[02:03] <handshake> any help here
[02:03] <bookofjude> Kyral: Rhetorical question, sorry.
[02:03] <DewDude> does (k)ubuntu auto-config to read NTFS partitions?
[02:03] <Kyral> hirak21: I don't know why you cannot login to a terminal
[02:03] <soundray> yoav, 'sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 blank-fast'
[02:03] <hirak21> lies
[02:03] <hirak21> it does not bring up anything
[02:03] <DewDude> or will i have to speficy a bunch of stuff in fstab
[02:03] <Kyral> hirak21: Heck I don't even know why you aren't booting to GDM
[02:03] <_jason> handshake, did you try what it suggested by any chance?
[02:03] <hirak21> ...
[02:03] <hirak21> how do i boot to gdm
[02:03] <hirak21> i cant type anything during the bootup
[02:03] <hirak21> before/after
[02:03] <Kyral> If you did a normal install it should by default
[02:03] <antdengineer> does gnome store the path of your background image in a config file somewhere?
[02:03] <soundray> yoav, adapt your device (0,0,0)
[02:03] <hirak21> yeah i did normal install
[02:03] <rosen> nice attitude for a guy asking for help.....
[02:03] <handshake> how do i do this _jason?? im a newbie :)
[02:04] <hirak21> i cant be the only one with this problem
[02:04] <Kyral> hirak21: In my experiance you are
[02:04] <soundray> shineykitty, I don't know what to make of that. sudo and /etc/init.d/networking should be in *every* ubuntu installation.
[02:04] <DewDude> hirak: are you getting a graphical login screen?
[02:04] <bookofjude> handshake: Do you have Gnome running? Can you go to "Applications"?
[02:04] <_jason> handshake, what the exact command it says for you to try?
[02:04] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:04] <yoav> soundry, im trying the sudo cdrecord thing now, dont know how to adapt
[02:04] <bookofjude> Kyral: Jackpot. Thanks again.
[02:04] <hirak21> could it be i have a
[02:04] <hirak21> 'bad iso'
[02:04] <newlinuxd00d> antdengineer, Are you on breezy?
[02:04] <soundray> shineykitty, you must be typing it wrong.
[02:04] <hirak21> even though my burner never burned a bad disk ever
[02:04] <handshake> _jason: gst -register
[02:04] <shineykitty> i dunno its ubuntu live
[02:04] <antdengineer> yes
[02:04] <Kyral> hirak21: maybe
[02:04] <hirak21> i never had a currupt file ever
[02:04] <handshake> im on applications
[02:04] <hirak21> so that is the only thing thats weird
[02:05] <Kyral> hirak21: I have NFI what is the problem
[02:05] <newlinuxd00d> antdengineer, Hit ALT F2 and type gconf-editor
[02:05] <hirak21> ?
[02:05] <bookofjude> handshake: Look for "Console" or "Terminal Window".
[02:05] <handshake> ok im on it
[02:05] <Kyral> NFI = No F***ing idea
[02:05] <newlinuxd00d> antdengineer, Then browse to /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename and that will tell what you need to know
[02:05] <_jason> handshake, go to app menu -> accessories -> terminal
[02:05] <bimberi> antdengineer: (Configuration Editor) - /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[02:05] <hirak21> ah k
[02:05] <hirak21> fuck
[02:05] <hirak21> i dont know what to do
[02:05] <Kyral> hirak21: neither do I
[02:05] <hirak21> i gotta install windows just t oinstall linux
[02:05] <soundray> yoav, do you use nautilus?
[02:05] <bimberi> newlinuxd00d: too quick :)
[02:05] <Kyral> hirak21: try booting to recovery mode
[02:05] <shineykitty> itim gonna restart really quick on my mac
[02:05] <hirak21> how
[02:05] <_jason> hirak21, watch the language and calm down, did you check the md5sum on the iso?
[02:06] <yoav> soundry, i got plenty of lines that sound like it didnt do much. should it work on 5.10 amd 64?
[02:06] <soundray> shineykitty, okay
[02:06] <hirak21> yes i did _jason
[02:06] <Kyral> hirak21: hit ESC while GRUB is loading
[02:06] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:06] <soundray> yoav, do you use nautilus?
[02:06] <hirak21> let me try
[02:06] <handshake> _jason: im on the terminal....
[02:06] <yoav> soundry, yea i do
[02:06] <_jason> handshake, enter the command it asks you to try
[02:06] <Kyral> it will bring up the GRUB Menu
[02:06] <antdengineer> newlinuxd00d: my question is where is the actual config file that stores that info located?
[02:06] <handshake> theres no gst command :(
[02:07] <Kyral> handshake: gst-register
[02:07] <soundray> yoav, if you use nautilus to write something to CDRW, it'll automatically offer to erase it before writing.
[02:07] <_jason> handshake, gst-register
[02:07] <benplaut> does dapper have xorg 7 (beta whatever) yet?
[02:07] <scanwinder> im trying to compile gaim2.0.0beta1 and im getting the following error: mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/man ': File exists
[02:07] <antdengineer> i would like to write a script to do some fun stuff with my background images
[02:07] <Kyral> benplaut: I dunno
[02:07] <NCLife> is it risky to enable DMA on my comp? my dvd playback is jerky, but im not sure if i should enable DMA cuz of the warning on the wiki about DMA being miss used or something
[02:07] <yoav> soundry, i dont get the writing option when i open the cd like i did at first
[02:07] <handshake> _jason:  nop.. non at all..
[02:07] <antdengineer> newlinuxd00d:by parsing the config file and changing the path say every day, or month, or scpecified ammount of time
[02:08] <_jason> scanwinder, try #gaim for better help, configure with prefix=/opt
[02:08] <Kyral> NCLife: its for old hardware, recent drives are safe
[02:08] <_jason> handshake,  try: gst-register-0.8
[02:08] <MoonRanger> how do i turn the firewall in ubuntu totally off.
[02:08] <Kyral> MoonRanger: It is off by default
[02:08] <NCLife> ah, ok thanks kyral, i shall install it then
[02:08] <soundray> yoav, how many cd drives in your system?
[02:08] <MoonRanger> oh ok
[02:08] <yoav> soundry, 1
[02:08] <antdengineer> newlinuxd00d: u know what I mean?
[02:08] <MoonRanger> cause when i run limewire it detects a firewall in place ..
[02:09] <shineykitty> is there any other linux forms that cam be downloaded and burned for a "live" cd?
[02:09] <Kyral> MoonRanger: are you behind a router?
[02:09] <MoonRanger> yeah ..
[02:09] <shineykitty> flavors rather
[02:09] <shineykitty> for mac
[02:09] <Linuturk> hey everyone, I'm trying out ndiswrapper for my MN-520
[02:09] <Kyral> MoonRanger: Its the router :P
[02:09] <MoonRanger> i just figured that out
[02:09] <MoonRanger> sorry
[02:09] <yoav> soundry, when i try copying a new file into it i get a message that i dont have permission
[02:09] <Linuturk> but i got some problems
[02:09] <Kyral> MoonRanger: sokay
[02:09] <hirak21> ok
[02:09] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:09] <hirak21> i booted in recovery
[02:09] <hirak21> got a command prompt line
[02:09] <Kyral> uhoh
[02:09] <hirak21> typed startx and BAM nothing ;[
[02:09] <MoonRanger> its when i load windows xp i set the router to put my computers ip outside the firewall
[02:09] <soundray> yoav, then you should be able to erase the CDRW with 'sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 blank=fast'. Pls try it.
[02:09] <Linuturk> i've followed the guide in the wiki
[02:09] <hirak21> black screen with no line on top left this time
[02:09] <hirak21> just froze up
[02:09] <Linuturk> and I have the utils installed
[02:10] <MoonRanger> how do i find out my local ip in ubuntu
[02:10] <Kyral> hirak21: at least you can type
[02:10] <handshake> _jason: there's no gst-register command :(
[02:10] <newlinuxd00d> antdengineer, Do it in gconf. Use gconftool-2 --set --type string /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "/path/to/picture"
[02:10] <Kyral> hirak21: Wait a second
[02:10] <handshake> _jason: there's no gst-register command :( when i typed it.
[02:10] <hirak21> ok
[02:10] <newlinuxd00d> antdengineer, Put that in a cronjob with a small script to grab a random image from a directory
[02:10] <soundray> yoav, if you want to learn precisely what you are doing there, read 'man cdrecord'
[02:10] <Kyral> hirak21: You type startx AND THEN you cannot type?
[02:10] <hirak21> yeah
[02:10] <hirak21> no
[02:10] <hirak21> no
[02:10] <shineykitty> actually maybe i should just hard wire my mac
[02:10] <hirak21> in recovery mode
[02:10] <hirak21> **
[02:10] <antdengineer> newlinuxd00: cool, thanks!
[02:10] <_jason> handshake, all together, one word: gst-register-0.8
[02:10] <Kyral> hirak21: is that was has been going on this entire time?
[02:10] <shineykitty> then i dont need a wep key XD
[02:10] <hirak21> nooo
[02:10] <hirak21> first time i get no command prompt line
[02:10] <Linuturk> when I installed the .inf file, it returned cp: cannon stat 'mswpcc.inf': No such file or directory. When I tried it again, it said it was already installed :-/
[02:10] <Kyral> hirak21: Okay lemme get this
[02:10] <hirak21> when i booted in recovery mode at the end i got a command prompt line
[02:11] <hirak21> typed startx
[02:11] <hirak21> and it did nothing
[02:11] <Kyral> hirak21: Okay your install is borkd
[02:11] <hirak21> really?
[02:11] <hirak21> :< FUCK
[02:11] <Kyral> hirak21: I can fix it now
[02:11] <hirak21> WHAT
[02:11] <hirak21> !!
[02:11] <ubotu> ??
[02:11] <soundray> shineykitty, if that's an option, it is clearly the better one.
[02:11] <hirak21> <3
[02:11] <hirak21> <3 how
[02:11] <Kyral> hirak21: Hit CTRL+ALT+F1
[02:11] <shineykitty> oh okay
[02:11] <hirak21> ok
[02:11] <Linuturk> i tried modprobe ndiswrapper, and it said Fatal: Eror inserting ndiswrapper, operation not permitted
[02:11] <hirak21> during bootup in recovery mode?
[02:11] <Linuturk> and, i did this all from sudo
[02:12] <Kyral> hirak21: right now
[02:12] <Kyral> hirak21: You are in Recovery Mode yes?
[02:12] <Linuturk> if you think you can help me
[02:12] <soundray> Kyral, can I just say how much I admire your patience. I would have kicked this guy's butt long ago.
[02:12] <Linuturk> pm me
[02:12] <Linuturk> please
[02:12] <yoav> soundry, i tried again, this is one of the lines i got - No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[02:12] <shineykitty> well i figure since my g3 lombard has built in ethernet
[02:12] <vininim> X developement tools aren't under Development?
[02:12] <soundray> yoav, is this a SCSI drive?
[02:13] <hirak21> yes Kyral
[02:13] <yoav> soundry, sad to say i dont know
[02:13] <hirak21> i am looking at the command prompt
[02:13] <Kyral> soundray: Humanity Towards Others. I am a Member of the Project :D
[02:13] <hirak21> sorry i gotta go back and forth betwee ncomputers in diff rooms lol
[02:13] <Hericus> unbelievable, a hacker..
[02:13] <vininim> oh.. libx11-dev, sorry for asking before checking =p
[02:13] <Kyral> hiring hit CTRL+ALT+F1 now.
[02:13] <Kyral> err
[02:13] <Kyral> hirak21:
[02:13] <soundray> Kyral, like I said, full of admiration.
[02:14] <shineykitty> is it possible to play cd's on a system thats running a "live" cd
[02:14] <Kyral> hirak21: what do you see?
[02:14] <Kyral> ...
[02:15] <Jochen> Hi people!
[02:15] <soundray> shineykitty, only if you have a second CD drive.
[02:15] <hirak21> :(
[02:15] <Jochen> Can anybody help me installing a debian package on ubuntu?
[02:15] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:15] <Kyral> yah?
[02:15] <hirak21> im looking at the command prompt line in recovery mode
[02:15] <_jason> !deb
[02:15] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:15] <shineykitty> well that sucks lol
[02:15] <Jochen> ahhhhh
[02:15] <hirak21> and hitting ctrl+act+f1 does nothing
[02:15] <_jason> Jochen, wait
[02:15] <soundray> yoav, can you run 'sudo cdrecord -scanbus' and tell me how many lines of output roughly?
[02:15] <_jason> Jochen, what are you installing
[02:15] <Kyral> hirak21: can you type?
[02:15] <hirak21> yeah
[02:15] <shineykitty> how do i network ubunto to see the drives in my other computer?
[02:15] <Kyral> hirak21: good
[02:15] <hirak21> it actually lets me type for once lol
[02:15] <Kyral> hirak21: you are root now
[02:15] <hirak21> nice
[02:16] <hirak21> so uhh lol
[02:16] <hirak21> what do i do now
[02:16] <vininim> ubotu: bot?
[02:16] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:16] <NCLife> Kyral, maybe you know.. i have an ipod that is connected to my comp, its unmounted but the "do not disconnect" message wont go away, do you know how to eject it properly?
[02:16] <Kyral> hirak21: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <hirak21> k brb
[02:16] <vininim> nice FAQ AI :)
[02:16] <yoav> soundry, in properties it says its "root" that im not owner. could that be it?
[02:17] <hirak21> okay Kyral
[02:17] <hirak21> did it say i have newest version
[02:17] <soundray> yoav, no, that is why we use sudo.
[02:17] <hirak21> 0 files were changes
[02:17] <hirak21> changed*
[02:17] <dooglus> NCLife: can you 'eject' an ipod?
[02:17] <yoav> soundry, about 35
[02:17] <soundray> yoav, it runs the following command as root.
[02:17] <Kyral> hirak21: hmmm
[02:18] <hirak21> i know :x plot thickens
[02:18] <Kyral> hirak21: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:18] <soundray> yoav, do you see a line of the format 0,0,0 (possibly with other numbers)?
[02:18] <NCLife> dooglus, well.. i just want that the "do not disconnect" message disappears so i can remove it safely
[02:18] <yoav> soundry, checking
[02:18] <hirak21> brb
[02:19] <dooglus> NCLife: I'm wondering if the 'eject' command might allow you to realise your dreams of unplugging safely
[02:19] <yoav> soundry, nope
[02:19] <Johnson> hi i need help
[02:19] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:19] <Kyral> yah?
[02:19] <hirak21> it said no such directory for file manager or something
[02:20] <hirak21> then it said failed to reload
[02:20] <Kyral> ....
[02:20] <Johnson> is any one useing the mech theame
[02:20] <dooglus> NCLife: "sudo eject /dev/ipod" (or whatever the device is)
[02:20] <Falstius> NCLife: sorry for running away earlier.  My wife was getting impatient (and closed the window)
[02:20] <hirak21> sec
[02:20] <vininim> here we go again: meta-package for (all) X11 development headers and libraries? u_u
[02:20] <Kyral> hirak21: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:20] <shineykitty> i am running ubuntu live if i toss my jumpdrive into the usb could i get it to save the settings to that so i dont have to redo everything each time i restart?
[02:20] <Kuyaedz> can anyone give me tips on creating / keeping a personal GPG?
[02:20] <yoav> soundry, scsidev: '0,0,0'
[02:20] <yoav> scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
[02:20] <yoav>  but thats before the scanbus command
[02:20] <silverpig> !w32codecs
[02:20] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:20] <NCLife> oh Falstius! :) thanks for coming back
[02:20] <hirak21> it said display manager <- no such file or directory
[02:21] <Kyral> hirak21: tehn you ahve a borked install
[02:21] <Johnson> how do i install a theme in KDE
[02:21] <Kyral> hirak21: apt-get -f install
[02:21] <hirak21> relaly?
[02:21] <shineykitty> thanks for the helpishness or something
[02:21] <shineykitty> byes
[02:21] <NCLife> i still cant make that gtkpod finds my itunes_DB nore remove it safely without the "do not disconnect" message
[02:21] <henzo> k
[02:21] <vininim> heh, and I wondered why people were against modularizing Xorg :X
[02:22] <hirak21> yep
[02:22] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:22] <Kyral> yah?
[02:22] <hirak21> 0 files with both commands
[02:23] <Johnson> can anyone help me?
[02:23] <Bacon> Where do I find the faq on installing mplayer?
[02:23] <_jason> Bacon, you can search wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <Kyral> hirak21: is that machine connected to the net?
[02:24] <hirak21> what do i do :(
[02:24] <soundray> yoav, I'm sorry, I'm digging in the dark. The cdrecord command I gave you should have worked.
[02:24] <NCLife> Falstius?
[02:24] <Bacon> _jason: Thanks.
[02:24] <hirak21> not right now cuz i formatted everything to install ubuntu
[02:24] <_jason> np
[02:24] <hirak21> and im on a wireless card which i have to install using the wrapper
[02:24] <Kyral> hirak21: okay, do you have the CD In the drive?
[02:24] <yoav> soundry, lots of things are dodgy on the system. i needed the rw for backup before i reinstall
[02:24] <Kyral> hirak21: the Ubuntu CD?
[02:24] <hirak21> i didnt while i was doing this but i do have the cd
[02:25] <soundray> yoav, perhaps the way forward for you is to install a CD-R utility program: gnome-baker or k3b and check whether they work for you.
[02:25] <Kyral> hirak21: put it in the drive
[02:25] <hirak21> ok
[02:25] <Kyral> hirak21: and mount it
[02:25] <insomnd> is there an easy way to install kernel 2.6.13 in breezy?
[02:25] <hirak21> mount it :x
[02:25] <hirak21> no idea
[02:25] <yoav> soundry. i'll try. plenty thanks
[02:25] <Johnson> can antone help me?
[02:25] <Kyral> hirak21: is it in the drive?
[02:25] <soundray> yoav, can you not back up via the net?
[02:25] <hirak21> yes
[02:25] <Kyral> hirak21: mount /media/cdrom/
[02:25] <hirak21> ok
[02:26] <insomnd> or might i be able to grab a module from kernel 2.6.13 and put it in 2.6.12?
[02:26] <yoav> soundry, i would have transfered it to a windows computer on my network, but samba is another problem i didnt tackle yet
[02:26] <Kyral> hirak21: apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:26] <hirak21> lol Kyral
[02:26] <hirak21> it says
[02:26] <hirak21> it says its read only
[02:26] <hirak21> is that ok
[02:27] <Kyral> hirak21: yah
[02:27] <hirak21> ok
[02:27] <Johnson> ok
[02:27] <hirak21> brb
[02:28] <hirak21> ok
[02:28] <soundray> yoav, you could tar your important files and ftp them - probably easiest to 'get' them from Windows.
[02:28] <hirak21> Kyral installed
[02:28] <Johnson> what dose the line above where i type in irc in console mean?
[02:28] <Kyral> hirak21: umount /media/cdrom/
[02:28] <Johnson> i have always wondered
[02:28] <Kyral> and eject the CD
[02:29] <hirak21> ok
[02:29] <hirak21> done
[02:29] <norki> hi. i've got the ubuntu dvd. and when i try to check out the live cd function, it hangs at "loading hotplug subsystem"   :\
[02:29] <Kyral> hirak21: You know how to use NDiswrapper?
[02:29] <hirak21> no :*(
[02:29] <theblue> Johnson: You mean johnson@ubuntu:~ $
[02:29] <Kyral> gah...
[02:29] <Kyral> okay
[02:29] <yoav> soundry. another thing i'm not going to learn how to do at the moment. i guess i'll work around it for now, thanks
[02:29] <theblue> There's an Ubuntu DVD?
[02:29] <hirak21> i was gonna install it after i ran linux
[02:29] <hirak21> cuz i burned it before
[02:29] <Johnson> no above that
[02:29] <Johnson> it says
[02:29] <Kyral> hirak21: You have the driver disk for the wireless card?
[02:29] <soundray> yoav, or scp them if you have ssh on Ubuntu and puttyssh on Win
[02:29] <hirak21> yep
[02:30] <norki> yeah there's a dvd
[02:30] <dooglus> or tar them up, uuencode them, and paste them on the pastebin
[02:30] <Kyral> hirak21: insert it into the drive and mount it
[02:30] <theblue> Why don't they put the DVD in Shipit?
[02:30] <hirak21> ok sec
[02:30] <theblue> It'd be cheaper to do one disc instead of 2.
[02:30] <Kyral> theblue: they are working on a combined CD for Dapper
[02:30] <bimberi> theblue: not everyone has a DVD reader
[02:30] <soundray> yoav, okay, I'll stop. Again, sorry I couldn't really help. Hope you manage with gnome-baker/k3b
[02:30] <dooglus> theblue: probably because a lot more people can read CDs than DVDs
[02:30] <Johnson> [1.29]  [Johnson(+i)]   [2:ubuntu(+pcent)]    [act: 1] 
[02:31] <Johnson> what the hell soe it mean???
[02:31] <theblue> Kyral: bimberi dooglus I see.
[02:31] <norki>          so what could cause the hang at loading hotplug subsystem?
[02:31] <Kyral> hirak21: done it?
[02:31] <yoav> soundry, thanks again. i'm trying to get k3b to show me the files i want to write...
[02:32] <theblue> Johnson: The 1.29 is either time or lag.  [Johnson(+i)]  is your nick and status, you have +i. [2:ubuntu(+pcent)]  is the channel name an dstatus (with +p, +c, +e, +n, and +t.)
[02:32] <Johnson> theblue do you know what it means?
[02:32] <Locote> How do i get a coder to play mp3?
[02:32] <Johnson> 1.29 is the time
[02:32] <Locote> Or what I should do?
[02:32] <theblue> Johnson: And the [act: 1]  shows that window 1 has new messages.
[02:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell Locote about mp3
[02:32] <Bacon> I have univers and multivers in sources.list, but I still can't find mplayer with apt-cache
[02:32] <theblue> Johnson: To switch windows, use Alt- and then the window number.
[02:32] <Johnson> ok
[02:32] <_jason> Bacon, apt-get update
[02:32] <Bacon> _jason: I have.
[02:32] <hyphenated> Bacon: after doing apt-get update, of course?
[02:33] <_jason> Bacon, pastebin your sources.list please
[02:33] <Johnson> lol nothign new there
[02:33] <hyphenated> Bacon: any errors when you did this apt-get update? you spelt both repositories wrong above :-)
[02:33] <Johnson> so what the diffrent statuses mean?
[02:34] <Kyral> hirak21: you there?
[02:34] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:34] <hirak21> its mounded
[02:34] <hirak21> mounted*
[02:34] <Kyral> hirak21: you know how to naviagte the file structure on the command line?
[02:34] <Bacon> my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5940
[02:34] <Bacon> No errors on update.
[02:34] <bimberi> Bacon: did you 'apt-cache search mplayer' ?
[02:34] <larkin> hi my name is ryan weee
[02:35] <theblue> Johnson: I have no idea.
[02:35] <dell500> anyone here know how to fix grub??
[02:35] <dell500> lol
[02:35] <theblue> larkin: Hi there.
[02:35] <Bacon> bimberi: Yes.
[02:35] <Johnson> theblue do you know anything about KDE themes?
[02:35] <_jason> Bacon, you don't have multiverse
[02:35] <Johnson> lol ok thx
[02:35] <theblue> Johnson: Sorry, I don't use KDE.
[02:35] <larkin> hey wats up yo lol
[02:35] <bimberi> Bacon: nvm, the issue is that you only have multiverse on the backports line
[02:36] <Johnson> theblue ok thx anyway
[02:36] <Kyral> hirak21: Do you know how to use cd and ls?
[02:36] <Bacon> Oops.
[02:36] <_jason> Bacon, lines 19,20,35,36 add " multiverse"
[02:36] <hirak21> lol no :(
[02:36] <hirak21> im a totaly linux noob
[02:36] <Johnson> dose anyone in here use KDE
[02:36] <theblue> Johnson: #kubuntu
[02:36] <bimberi> Bacon: add " multiverse" to all the other lines that have universe and retry
[02:36] <aztek> what's a good utility (preferably graphical) for scanning and showing open wifi networks i can connect to?
[02:36] <Kyral> hirak21: cd /media/cdrom/
[02:36] <popey> aztek: wifi radar
[02:36] <hirak21> ok
[02:36] <Johnson> yeh im on it no its just theme im having problems with
[02:36] <Kyral> hirak21: now do ls and look for files that end in both .sys and .com I THINK
[02:37] <Johnson> ok
[02:37] <Kyral> no no
[02:37] <aztek> popey: i've tried that but it doesn't seem to stay updated when i move around
[02:37] <hirak21> ?
[02:37] <Kyral> hirak21: do ls and look for files that end ni .sys and .ini
[02:37] <popey> aztek: kismet is what i use
[02:37] <Bacon> Thanks all.
[02:37] <hirak21> ok
[02:37] <hirak21> then what
[02:37] <Kyral> do you see any?
[02:37] <hirak21> sed let me do it
[02:37] <hirak21> im wrting down the commands ug ive me then i go and try them
[02:38] <Kyral> I think I'm living Tech Support's worse nightmare
[02:38] <beelzebub1987> Anyone here interested in being part of a game development team?
[02:38] <aztek> popey: will that work with most wifi cards or only specific cards/drivers?
[02:38] <Locote> Thanks
[02:38] <theblue> beelzebub1987: What kind of game?
[02:38] <popey> aztek: specific cards
[02:38] <beelzebub1987> web based
[02:38] <Locote> Jason
[02:38] <popey> aztek: what do you have?
[02:38] <beelzebub1987> theblue: web based
[02:39] <theblue> beelzebub1987: I can't code, I can only test.
[02:39] <beelzebub1987> theblue: you don't have to be a coder
[02:39] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:39] <hirak21> i dont see any but i got a couple files and a few directories
[02:39] <aztek> a US Robotics. uses the acx100 driver
[02:39] <Kyral> hirak21: after you did cd?
[02:39] <hirak21> i got autoorun,inf, drivers, image, manual , setup.exe, utility
[02:39] <hirak21> yea i did cd then i did ls
[02:39] <Kyral> hirak21: cd drivers
[02:39] <hirak21> k
[02:39] <beelzebub1987> theblue: are you perhaps a good graphics designer, or audio editor, or game designer?
[02:39] <hirak21> then what
[02:39] <shineykitty> so im on my mac
[02:39] <Kyral> and ls again
[02:39] <hyphenated> .. lovely quit message from locote
[02:39] <hirak21> ok
[02:40] <Kyral> and see if you have those files in there
[02:40] <shineykitty> without encryption
[02:40] <theblue> beelzebub1987: I have a little bit of each.
[02:40] <theblue> beelzebub1987: Though I'm not particularly good in an individual one.
[02:40] <shineykitty> so yeah
[02:40] <beelzebub1987> theblue: that's fine, you can still be part if it if you wish, but be forwarned it is based off of the world of Harry Potter
[02:40] <theblue> beelzebub1987: OY GEVALT!
[02:40] <beelzebub1987> theblue: would that be a problem?
[02:41] <theblue> beelzebub1987: I can't make many sounds or graphics for that, sorry.
[02:41] <hyphenated> beelzebub1987: don't make it too addictive, otherwise I won't get to see my girlfriend very much
[02:41] <hyphenated> she's a big harry potter fan
[02:41] <theblue> As is mine.
[02:41] <beelzebub1987> lol k
[02:41] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:41] <Crackez> has anyone had luck getting wpasupplicant to work with a Win2k RADIUS server at the back end?
[02:41] <Kyral> hirak21: did you see any files ending in .ini or .sys?
[02:42] <hirak21> yes
[02:42] <hirak21> many
[02:42] <jorgp> what is a good gui cd-rw/dvd-rw gnome burning package?
[02:42] <Kyral> hirak21: what are they
[02:42] <beelzebub1987> well if anyone is interested the site is: http://hermioneonline.co.nr
[02:42] <hirak21> i see netusb.cat, netusb.sys, netusbxp.sys, netusb.inf, netusb2k.cat, primusb.sys, vnetusba.sys, vnetusbxp.sys
[02:42] <hirak21> and winxp folder
[02:42] <Kyral> hirak21: hmm
[02:43] <hirak21> :c
[02:43] <Kyral> Damnit don't have NDiswrapper installed so I cannot reference the manpage
[02:43] <hirak21> i hope this works im gonna jump for joy literaly
[02:43] <hirak21> oh no :<
[02:43] <bimberi> jorgp: nautilus (the file manager) for data CDs, otherwise there's gnomebaker and graveman
[02:43] <bulio> who can anyone help me out setting up DHCP?
[02:43] <vininim> ] ./configure: line 8405: AC_LIB_PREPARE_PREFIX: command not found
[02:44] <vininim> mm does that indicate I should use another autoconf version?
[02:44] <bimberi> jorgp: *CD&DVDs
[02:44] <dabaSlon> How does the partition table have to be set up? I have a empty big 150GB primary partition on the beginning of the drive, and I set it to bootable. Then I have a 5GB non bootable primary partition for /, then 7.5GB primary for /home, then 1.4GB swap space. What is wrong with this picture? I can not install grub to /target.
[02:44] <Crackez> vininim: dhclient eth0
[02:44] <Kyral> hirak21: cp netusb.sys /root && cp netusb.inf /root
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ok i remember a sourceforge repo anyone know if its still in seveas repos in source-o-matic?
[02:44] <bulio> can anyone help me out setting up DHCP?
[02:44] <Crackez> or, ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[02:44] <dooglus> what's a nice, small terminal emulator with tabs?  gnome-terminal is nice, but uses too much RAM
[02:44] <vininim> Crackez: there is no lan in my eth0
[02:44] <Crackez> what does that mean?
[02:45] <bulio> ifconfig eth0?
[02:45] <dabaSlon> bulio: what, dhcp is automatic.
[02:45] <vininim> that means that you probably was saying that to someone else :)
[02:45] <hirak21> ok brb Kyral
[02:45] <MoonRanger> is thier a tutorial for setting up dhcp, dynamic dns, etc ...in ubuntu
[02:45] <bulio> dabaSlon: right now, I'm connected to the router via pppoeconf
[02:45] <Crackez> ubuntu uses dhcp by default
[02:45] <pro> can someone help with this? im trying to install vmware in my comp and i get this prob
[02:45] <pro> None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your
[02:45] <pro> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[02:45] <pro> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]  yes
[02:45] <pro> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
[02:45] <pro> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:45] <pro> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[02:45] <bulio> but my router does pppoe for me
[02:45] <Crackez> or are you asking about a DHCP server?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> dooglus, i use io think its called smart terminal but its not installed right now so the name maybe off :(
[02:45] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:45] <hirak21> copyed
[02:46] <bulio> no
[02:46] <bulio> connecting to internet via dhcp
[02:46] <bulio> Ubuntu---Ethernet cord-----Router-----Modem---Phone cable-----(Wireless PCs)
[02:46] <bulio> thats my setup
[02:46] <bulio> atm i'm using PPPOECONF
[02:46] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I can't see it in the repositories
[02:46] <Kyral> hirak21: gimme a sec I'm referencing the NDiswrapper page
[02:47] <hirak21> ok :)
[02:47] <gnomefreak> i got synaptic working for next hr or so so i cant look for it right now :( sorry
[02:47] <bulio> how can I disable pppoeconf?
[02:47] <Kyral> hirak21: ndiswrapper -i /root/netusb.inf
[02:47] <norki> what could cause the hang at loading hotplug subsystem when running the live cd?
[02:48] <bulio> how can I disable pppoeconf?
[02:48] <dooglus> gnomefreak: "apt-cache search <string>" will work still
[02:48] <hirak21> ok
[02:48] <hirak21> should i do that now
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ok let me check
[02:48] <linu> did anyone see my ndiswrapper question?
[02:48] <Linuturk> i really don't want to retype that
[02:48] <factotum> so i have a spare system now and I keep staring at it thinking about what i should do with it, i was thinking file server/backup/archive whatever, but only a 15gb HD... any other suggestions that would be usefull in a home network setting?
[02:49] <Linuturk> can anyone scroll up and copy what I wrote before I was disconnected?
[02:49] <welp> factotum, make a web-server
[02:49] <Linuturk> please :(
[02:49] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:49] <hirak21> installed
[02:49] <jorgp> anyone else experience gnomebaker just hangs
[02:49] <factotum> welp: like LAMP or whatever you call it?
[02:49] <Kyral> hirak21: ndiswrapper -l
[02:49] <Kyral> hirak21: what does it say?
[02:49] <hirak21> sec
[02:49] <welp> factotum, just install ubuntu and apache
[02:49] <mrkoje> factotum,  install apache, php and ruby and learn how to program..
[02:50] <welp> factotum, hey presto! a web-server
[02:50] <Linuturk> can someone please scroll up and copy what I wrote? i didn't have logging on, and that's a lot to retype!! have mercy!!
[02:50] <welp> ( factotum do what mrkoje said)
[02:50] <factotum> hmm... I have been tinkering with xhtml and css a bit..hehe
[02:50] <hirak21> ok
[02:50] <hirak21> :( not good
[02:50] <welp> factotum, i'm doing the same, 'cept with Gnetoo
[02:50] <hirak21> said netusb invalid driver!
[02:51] <welp> Linuturk, it's off my screen
[02:51] <welp> :/
[02:51] <MrRio> shouldnt ubuntu put a shared-hand emblem on folders u share with samba?
[02:51] <pro> can someone help me installing vmware?
[02:51] <Linuturk> welp, are you logging?
[02:51] <luluzinha> hi
[02:51] <luluzinha> :(
[02:51] <dooglus> Linuturk: you said: "i'm trying to use ndiswrapper, but I've got a problem. I can't tell what *.inf file is associated with my card | hey everyone, I'm trying out ndiswrapper for my MN-520 | but i got some problems | i've followed the guide in the wiki | and I have the utils installed | when I installed the .inf file, it returned cp: cannon stat 'mswpcc.inf': No such file or directory. When I tried it again, it said it was already installed :-/ | i tried m
[02:51] <Linuturk> thank you
[02:51] <welp> Linuturk, now i am
[02:51] <welp> :P
[02:52] <hyphenated> MrRio: SMB functionality would need to be fairly deeply tied into the operating system or filesystem for that to work
[02:52] <Crackez> factotum, install gcc, vim and gdb ... Bam a real development environment!
[02:52] <Kyral> hirak21: try ndiswrapper -i /root/netusb.sys
[02:52] <khermans> anyone need help?
[02:52] <hirak21> ok
[02:52] <aTypical> Hello, all.
[02:52] <dooglus> Linuturk: I think that's what you said.  I wasn't logging, but I was hanging on your every word.
[02:52] <MrRio> hyphenated: it seems to be already, when u right click and click share, it even goes off and fires up synaptic to install the samba package
[02:52] <pro> Kyral, i need help with something
[02:53] <eruin> any of you know of a nice way to convert m4a to mp3 or ogg?
[02:53] <Linuturk> dooglus, thanks
[02:53] <hirak21> brb
[02:53] <Kyral> pro okay...
[02:53] <gnomefreak> dooglus, it might have been xterm but i thought it was smart something but i cant find it either
[02:53] <Linuturk> better then losing it all
[02:53] <dooglus> gnomefreak: did it have tabs?
[02:53] <Linuturk> Kyral, i see you know a little about ndiswrapper?
[02:53] <pro> Kyral, im trying to install vmware
[02:53] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I'd like to be able to switch between multiple tabs, like in firefox
[02:53] <Kyral> pro: I know nothing about VMWare
[02:53] <gnomefreak> the one im thinking of did dooglus
[02:53] <hyphenated> MrRio: never tried it.
[02:53] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I don't think it was xterm then - that's very basic
[02:54] <hirak21> ok Kyral
[02:54] <hirak21> installed
[02:54] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I just took a look at rxvt, but that doesn't seem to have tabs either
[02:54] <Kyral> hirak21: ndiswrapper -l again
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ok i have one other place to look give me a few
[02:54] <Linuturk> Kyral, after you finish with hirak21, can you give me some assistance?
[02:54] <Kyral> Linuturk: IF I finish with him lol
[02:54] <hirak21> lol
[02:54] <pro> Kyral, well, the thing it's not about the program itself, but got this "error" None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your
[02:54] <pro> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[02:54] <pro> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?
[02:54] <Linuturk> how about anyone else that can help with ndiswrapper?
[02:54] <Kyral> pro: say yes
[02:55] <dooglus> Linuturk: when you ran "modprobe", did you put "sudo" in front of it?
[02:55] <hirak21> both invalid Kyral
[02:55] <hirak21> :<
[02:55] <Linuturk> dooglus yes
[02:55] <hirak21> Kyral
[02:55] <pro> Kyral, yeah but..... i got this and i cant move forward "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[02:55] <pro> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:55] <pro> kernel?"
[02:55] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to fix gtk-gnutella im gettin an error unable to open a socket too many open files how do i fix this pleas
[02:55] <Kyral> hirak21: okay now we need the hard way
[02:55] <hirak21> wait
[02:55] <Linuturk> dooglus i am using the driver's that my windows xp is using right now
[02:55] <dooglus> Linuturk: the error, "operation not permitted" would lead me to think that you might not have.
[02:55] <hirak21> before we go the hard way
[02:55] <hirak21> let me try 1 more thing and brb ok?
[02:55] <pro> Kyral, where can i get those header files?
[02:55] <Kyral> yag
[02:56] <dooglus> Linuturk: try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[02:56] <vininim> I will leave this for tomorrow, have an exam in just about 10 hours. o_o see you guys
[02:56] <Linuturk> dooglus, i did it twice, and made sure i did. the first time, i was under sudo su
[02:56] <Kyral> pro: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-(uname -r)
[02:56] <dooglus> Linuturk: and it said "not permitted"?
[02:56] <sunshine82> any ideas
[02:56] <Linuturk> Kyral, u forgot the $
[02:56] <Linuturk> dooglus, right
[02:56] <Kyral> Linuturk: yah yah yah
[02:56] <chamilton_> hello
[02:56] <Linuturk> dooglus, i did have the files as read only
[02:57] <Linuturk> since they were copied from my windows partiton
[02:57] <dooglus> Linuturk: "modprobe" loads a module into the kernel.  nothing needs to have write permission for that.
[02:57] <B1zz> wireless issues?
[02:57] <chovy> hello
[02:57] <Linuturk> but, i did a  ndiswrapper -l
[02:57] <Linuturk> and it said invalid driver
[02:57] <Linuturk> B1zz , yes, o/c. it wouldn't be linux without wireless issues
[02:58] <dooglus> Linuturk: I went through this procedure about a month ago for a different wireless card.  it's right that you only have to load the driver into ndiswrapper once, but I didn't have any problem with the 'modprobe' step
[02:58] <pro> Kyral, with "()" ?
[02:58] <chovy> i am a complete ubuntu newbie...and i need help:)
[02:58] <Linuturk> but, i did a  ndiswrapper -l
[02:58] <Linuturk> and it said invalid driver
[02:58] <dooglus> pro: with $() - add a $ in front of the (
[02:58] <Linuturk> but i'm using the driver from my windows install
[02:58] <Kyral> pro: no I mean substitute whatever you get when you run uname -r
[02:58] <Linuturk> and it works fine
[02:59] <dooglus> Kyral: that's what $(uname -r) will do...  it will substitute the result of 'uname -r' into the other command
[02:59] <chovy> do i talk here or pm?
[02:59] <Kyral> here
[03:00] <Falstius> Kyral: you can use `uname -r` too.
[03:00] <chovy> ok. ill say stuff and hope people can work what im doing wrong, or what i need to do.
[03:00] <pro> dooglus, thanks man
[03:00] <pro> Kyral, i got this :S Package linux-headers is not installed, so not removed
[03:00] <pro> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[03:00] <Linuturk> dooglus, any more thoughts? maybe there is a different driver i need?
[03:00] <Kyral> pro sudo apt-get install
[03:00] <Kyral> not remove
[03:01] <jron> can i get the new monodevelop through apt-get? and will it install the dependancies for me?
[03:01] <benplaut> yo, Kyral i need help :P
[03:01] <Kyral> ..
[03:01] <pro> Kyral, yeah, i already did it and i got that message Package linux-headers is not installed, so not removed
[03:01] <pro> pro 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[03:02] <Kyral> pro:  what is the output from uname -r?
[03:02] <DaveRag> Hey there, does someone know how to make a network install (for dapper flight cd 2)
[03:02] <bimberi> !info monodevelop
[03:02] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1308 kB, Installed size: 4788 kB
[03:02] <jron> yeah, they are two revisions higher than that =(
[03:03] <jron> ubuntu doesn't really like devs i guess =(
[03:03] <sunshine82> any ideas
[03:03] <chovy> I have recently bought a mac G4 PPC desktop, ex university. The HD failed after a week (during which I had everything i wanted ...internet, chat, email, programs etc...) so I bought another HD. I have just installed Ubuntu on it. looks great. but it can't seem to detect my internal modem. (im talking in here with XP laptop next to the linux box).
[03:03] <pro> Kyral, i did sudo apt-get install once and sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(pro -r)
[03:03] <pro>  and i got the same results
[03:03] <Kyral> ....
[03:03] <Kyral> pro
[03:03] <bimberi> jron: ubuntu freezes its versions,  you can always request a backport, or DIY
[03:03] <dbernar1> I have a 160GB sata drive here. I created a 150GB partition on the beginning, then set it as primary, bootable, and did not format it. Then I created a 5GB / partition again primary, and another 7.5GB partition for /home, primary, and a swap partition, I think primary 1.4GB. Then, I tried installing GRUB onto that, and it failed.
[03:03] <dbernar1> the / and /home partitions are ext3 formatted.
[03:03] <dbernar1> Is there something wrong with the partition config above?
[03:03] <Kyral> pro: run the command uname -r
[03:04] <bimberi> !info monodevelop dapper
[03:04] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.9-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1558 kB, Installed size: 4760 kB
[03:04] <Kyral> pro: what does it ourput?
[03:04] <pro> Kyral, 2.6.10-5-386
[03:04] <Kyral> pro: okay
[03:04] <jron> how can i get that one bimberi ?
[03:04] <Kyral> pro: sudo apt-get install 2.6.10-5-386
[03:05] <Kyral> err
[03:05] <Kyral> pro: no lol
[03:05] <Falstius> dbernar1: grub might balk at having the / drive 150 GB into the drive.  Certainly older versions would.
[03:05] <Kyral> pro: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[03:05] <dbernar1> hoary
[03:05] <Kyral> that one
[03:05] <sunshine82> if noone is respondin does that mean no one knows
[03:05] <dbernar1> sunshine82: usually
[03:05] <Falstius> sunshine82: or that no one noticed it.
[03:06] <chovy> I talked with my ISP and we set up the pppconfig so that I can go on once it detects the modem. It also can't detect the network card that came with it either. Do I need to download some win/mac drivers so that hoary hedgehog can detect my internal modem and network cards?
[03:06] <bimberi> jron: 1. see if it's in ubuntu-backports.  2. try installing the dapper .deb (both of these things can be done via http://packages.ubuntu.com)
[03:06] <pro> Kyral, ok, thank you, im installin it now.... i just hope that's the vmware needs
[03:06] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to fix gtk-gnutella im gettin an error unable to open a socket too many open files how do i fix this pleas
[03:06] <dbernar1> Falstius: I am using hoary, is that what you mean by older versions?
[03:06] <Kyral> Okay one down
[03:06] <jron> the one you just spit out is the one i need ;P no way to add the dapper repository to synaptic?
[03:06] <bimberi> jron: 3. I think there's a backporting howto on the forums
[03:06] <Kyral> now where is hirak21
[03:07] <theblue> dbernar1: Yes, Hoary counts as older versions.
[03:07] <Linuturk> Kyral, i'm still here
[03:07] <dbernar1> theblue: as related to my question?
[03:07] <bimberi> jron: well you could do that but it might break your system
[03:07] <Kyral> Linuturk: yes what is your problem now...
[03:07] <dbernar1> theblue: about grub...
[03:07] <theblue> dbernar1: No idea, honestly.
[03:07] <jron> bimberi, thanks for your reply but i think i'm going back to gentoo, linux seems to move too quickly for ubuntu =( was fun while it lasted though
[03:07] <Linuturk> Kyral, trying a MN-520 wireless card with ndiswrapper
[03:07] <Linuturk> returning some weird stuff
[03:07] <bimberi> jron: but enabling dapper, upgrading monodevelop, disabling dapper might work
[03:07] <dbernar1> theblue: Ya, you thought I was asking whether hoary is an older version of Ubuntu.
[03:07] <Falstius> dbernar1: I am not sure what the limit is in grub now or in the last few years.  Try making / the first partition and see if it works.
[03:08] <Linuturk> can we go to pm?
[03:08] <bimberi> jron: k :(
[03:08] <jron> portage pwns =(
[03:08] <hirak21> Kyral
[03:08] <dbernar1> Falstius: ya, that is the next logical thing to do, thank you for the clue.
[03:08] <hirak21> nothing :(
[03:08] <freakazoid3333> i loaded breezy on to a viao with a 160 gb HD and grup works fine
[03:08] <freakazoid3333> grub
[03:08] <Kyral> Linuturk: what is the make and model of the card?
[03:08] <Kyral> hirak21: what is the make and model of your card?
[03:08] <Linuturk> Kyral, Microsoft MN-520
[03:08] <hirak21> geforce nvidia 4 mx
[03:09] <tukys> I need help installing an hp 3930v
[03:09] <Falstius> freakazoid3333: but did you put / after a 150gb empty partition?
[03:09] <hirak21> thats the one i was using during install but i havent installed drivers for it on this new install yet
[03:09] <Kyral> hirak21: your wireless card
[03:09] <freakazoid3333> no
[03:09] <hirak21> unless the install did it by instself
[03:09] <hirak21> linksys instant wireless series usb
[03:09] <dbernar1> hehe
[03:10] <Linuturk> Kyral, i'm using the drivers from the cd for xp
[03:10] <aTypical> tukys, what kind of help do you need?  I have a dv1340us and Dapper installed without an issue.
[03:10] <chovy> i feel like im drowning in tech speak
[03:10] <lisi> hello boys, I need some software that recovers data from my old DVD...
[03:10] <lisi> an alternatigve to isobuster
[03:11] <Falstius> lisi, you have an ISO or a dvd?
[03:11] <Kyral> hirak21: cd back to /media/cdrom/drivers
[03:11] <pussfeller> !breezy
[03:11] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:11] <dell500> what's the entry in grub for windowsxp?
[03:11] <dell500> anyone know?
[03:11] <lisi> or CDroller
[03:11] <lisi> I have a DVD
[03:11] <pussfeller> !dapper
[03:11] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[03:11] <dbernar1> dell500: join #flood I will post my entry.
[03:11] <chovy> should i update my 5.04 ubuntu?
[03:12] <hirak21> Kyral any ideas?
[03:12] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to fix gtk-gnutella im gettin an error unable to open a socket too many open files how do i fix this pleas
[03:12] <Falstius> lisi and you can't just mount the DVD?
[03:12] <hirak21> am i screwed or hwat lo
[03:12] <Kyral> hirak21: cd /media/cdrom/drivers and ls
[03:12] <lisi> Falstius, no, I can't copy all data from that dvd
[03:12] <Linuturk> Kyral, focused on him?
[03:12] <hirak21> ok
[03:12] <Kyral> Linuturk: sorry
[03:12] <Kyral> Linuturk: you have X :P
[03:12] <lisi> some data give me I/O error.
[03:12] <Kyral> Linuturk: he doesn't
[03:13] <Kyral> Linuturk: lspci
[03:13] <Linuturk> it's a pcmcia card on a notebook
[03:13] <Linuturk> if that matters
[03:13] <Kyral> yah still
[03:13] <Kyral> lspci
[03:13] <Kyral> look for Wireless something or other
[03:13] <Falstius> lisi: maybe cdparanoia could do something although that's for audio.  I don't really know of anything.
[03:14] <hirak21> kr
[03:14] <hirak21> Kyral
[03:14] <hirak21> can i ask u why we are trying to access internet on this bo
[03:14] <lisi> I know that in windows shere is IsoBuster
[03:14] <Linuturk> Kyral, nothing about my wireless card. Just my video chipset and cardbus controller
[03:14] <Kyral> hirak21: to get to the main internet updates
[03:14] <lisi> I don't know if there is something for Linux
[03:14] <hirak21> ah damn!
[03:14] <Kyral> hirak21: the install is boned
[03:15] <hirak21> so if we get to main internet updates
[03:15] <Kyral> hirak21: so you need the real things
[03:15] <sunshine82> no know or no one answer ill come back latr
[03:15] <hirak21> i can reinstall every file?
[03:15] <Kyral> hirak21: yes
[03:15] <hirak21> oh man
[03:15] <Kyral> hirak21: maybe
[03:15] <hirak21> O_o
[03:15] <AbdulSpiegel> okay oka, i need help in getting a .wmv file to play
[03:15] <Kyral> hirak21: does that thing have a normal Ethernet port?
[03:15] <hirak21> so
[03:15] <Linuturk> Kyral, nothing about my wireless card. Just my video chipset and cardbus controller
[03:15] <hirak21> yeah
[03:15] <hirak21> but my card is on usb
[03:15] <AbdulSpiegel> i have install xmms player and w3codecs
[03:15] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, do you have the w32codecs
[03:15] <AbdulSpiegel> but still no good
[03:15] <_jason> ok then
[03:15] <Kyral> hirak21: is there ANYWAY you can connect an Ethernet line to it?
[03:15] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i have them installed m8
[03:16] <cartesian1984> !lart the w32 codecs
[03:16] <hirak21> nah man not that i can think of
[03:16] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, and i have xmms player installed
[03:16] <hirak21> why will that make it easier?
[03:16] <Kyral> hirak21: do ifconfig
[03:16] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, isn't xmms an audio player?
[03:16] <hirak21> ok
[03:16] <Kyral> hirak21: do you see "eth0" on there?
[03:16] <AbdulSpiegel> is it?
[03:16] <AbdulSpiegel> lol
[03:16] <Kyral> Linuturk: lsusb?
[03:16] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, try totem-xine or mplayer
[03:17] <dell500> anyone here know how to install gtkpod 0.99.2??
[03:17] <Linuturk> Kyral, just my usb mouse and an empty port
[03:17] <Linuturk> it's a pcmcia card . . .
[03:17] <Kyral> Linuturk: okay I'm NOT seeing the MN512 on the list
[03:17] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i tried totem-xine but i get an erorr : There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[03:17] <hirak21> nah i dont Kyral
[03:17] <Kyral> Linuturk: I see the MN720
[03:17] <Linuturk> MN-520
[03:18] <Linuturk> and, it says to try it anyway, to see if it'll work
[03:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about multimedia
[03:18] <Kyral> hirak21: something went REALLY wrong...
[03:18] <_jason> have you installed all those?
[03:18] <hirak21> really?
[03:18] <hirak21> i mrean
[03:18] <Kyral> hirak21: I know, obvious
[03:18] <hirak21> my ethernet is hooked up to my hub
[03:18] <hirak21> thats connected to my xbox
[03:18] <hirak21> is that why it didnt display?
[03:18] <Kyral> hirak21: if you don't even see "eth0"
[03:18] <Linuturk> Kyral, so, i'm screwed with ndiswrapper too?
[03:18] <hirak21> damnit
[03:18] <hirak21> so what do u suggest i do
[03:18] <Kyral> Linuturk: I don't know gimme a second
[03:19] <hirak21> cuz
[03:19] <hirak21> i gotta install windows again to even get another distro
[03:19] <Kyral> hirak21: reburn the CD at 4x speed
[03:19] <hirak21> ah damn
[03:19] <hirak21> i should just wait cuz i ordered cds from the site
[03:19] <Kyral> hirak21: You are using a x86 machine right?
[03:19] <hirak21> a what
[03:19] <Kyral> hirak21: What processor do you have in there?
[03:19] <hirak21> 450 mghz celeron
[03:19] <hirak21> old school
[03:19] <Kyral> Linuturk: gimme a second okay?
[03:20] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i think i already have gstreamer installed and stuff
[03:20] <Linuturk> Kyral, no problem
[03:20] <Kyral> hirak21: okay....
[03:20] <kakei> hi guys any one is having 'Cpu(s): 86.8% us' load // 100 load in CPU?
[03:20] <Kyral> hirak21: I am sorry I am not able to help you with this one
[03:20] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, do you know if its possible to get winamp itsself on ubuntun 5.10, and k-litecodec pack?
[03:20] <hirak21> damn
[03:20] <hirak21> thats so weird that the install went bad
[03:20] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, no, I don't know
[03:20] <Kyral> hirak21: this is one of those calls where the tech supportor wishes he could be at the terminal himself
[03:20] <hirak21> cuz i never had a faulty burn
[03:21] <hirak21> damn :\
[03:21] <Kyral> hirak21: then try it again and be really careful
[03:21] <hirak21> yeah
[03:21] <hirak21> i dont know
[03:21] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, do other videos work ok
[03:21] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, ok
[03:21] <Kyral> hirak21: just hit return
[03:21] <hirak21> im gonna wait for cds from site
[03:21] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i haven't tried anyother ones
[03:21] <Kyral> hirak21: or go with Slack if you liked Slack
[03:21] <AbdulSpiegel> .avis dont work thats forsure
[03:21] <Linuturk> is slack anygood?
[03:21] <hirak21> i mean i never got the feeling for any of them
[03:22] <hirak21> cuz i couldent get my wireless usb card to work with linux
[03:22] <hirak21> cuz they are all windows based drivers
[03:22] <Kyral> Linuturk: I statrted on slack
[03:22] <hirak21> for some fucked up reasno
[03:22] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, try reinstalling those codecs at the multimedia page just to be sure
[03:22] <Kyral> hirak21: Linksys is a PAIN IN THE ASS for wireless
[03:22] <hirak21> yeah no kidding
[03:22] <Kyral> hirak21: if you really wanna know, get a card with an Athereos chipset
[03:22] <Linuturk> hirak21, this distro, www.damnsmalllinux.org , detected my card no problem
[03:22] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, ok
[03:22] <hirak21> Linuturk what kinda card u running
[03:23] <Linuturk> Microsoft MN-520 with Prism2 chipset
[03:23] <Linuturk> pcmcia
[03:23] <robotgeek> Linuturk: did you file a bug?
[03:23] <Kyral> Linuturk: wait a tick, its Prism2?
[03:23] <Linuturk> robotgeek, yes, but I'm trying ndiswrapper now
[03:23] <Linuturk> or, trying to try it
[03:23] <Linuturk> Kyral, yes
[03:24] <Linuturk> Kyral, me and robotgeek tried linux-wlan-ng
[03:24] <Kyral> Ain't Prism2 supported in kernel>
[03:24] <Linuturk> tried to modprobe it, but it was a no go
[03:24] <Linuturk> worked in the 2.4 kernel of DSL 2.0
[03:24] <dbernar1> ya, but this one is M$ branded:)
[03:25] <hirak21> actually
[03:25] <hirak21> Kyral
[03:25] <Linuturk> again, it works in another distro using the 2.4 kernel
[03:25] <Kyral> hirak21: yes?
[03:25] <hirak21> i think i can get another computer to burn me a distro
[03:25] <scott_> hey, sorry to interrupt, but how do i change the share settings on my printer so i can have it available to my whole samba network.
[03:25] <hirak21> should i just test this damn small linux distro?
[03:25] <scott_> ?
[03:25] <Kyral> hirak21: its a live CD
[03:25] <hirak21> oh
[03:25] <hirak21> gay
[03:25] <Kyral> and IIRC its based in Apt
[03:25] <dbernar1> who called me?
[03:25] <dbernar1> haha
[03:25] <robotgeek> Kyral: we compiled the driver and all, and it crapped out after compiling
[03:25] <Linuturk> hirak21, it's only 50 megs, and you CAN INSTALL IT
[03:25] <Kyral> Linuturk: does it use Apt?
[03:25] <hirak21> u CAN install it?
[03:25] <cartesian1984> hirak21, you can install it to a usb drive, but only from the liveCD
[03:25] <Kyral> hirak21: yah
[03:26] <Linuturk> no no no
[03:26] <hirak21> i like how its only 50 megs
[03:26] <hirak21> lol
[03:26] <Linuturk> you can do a hd install too
[03:26] <Linuturk> YOU CAN INSTALL dsl
[03:26] <hirak21> ah
[03:26] <Kyral> Linuturk: what does it use for Package Management?
[03:26] <hirak21> so u CAN install dsl
[03:26] <Linuturk> MyDSL extensions
[03:26] <hirak21> lol kool
[03:26] <Linuturk> and the synamptic manager
[03:26] <cafuego> Or you can install Ubuntu (see channel name)
[03:26] <Linuturk> it's debian based
[03:26] <hirak21> are u sure about htat Linuturk
[03:26] <Kyral> cafuego: it ain't working lol
[03:26] <hirak21> cuz i onyl got 1 blank cd left
[03:27] <Linuturk> i have it installed on a really old laptop
[03:27] <Linuturk> i'm positive
[03:27] <hirak21> ok
[03:27] <Linuturk> you can even run it embedded in windows
[03:27] <Kyral> Linuturk: it has Apt at its core
[03:27] <hirak21> so is there any special way of installing it or is it regular install
[03:27] <cafuego> Unfortunately this isn't #dsl.
[03:27] <Linuturk> ok
[03:27] <Linuturk> got the hint
[03:27] <hirak21> cafuego stop being a fanboy
[03:27] <Linuturk> :-P
[03:27] <Kyral> cafuego: Right now I couldn't give a damn lol
[03:27] <dbernar1> cafuego: haha. What is with the bot name ubotflu? You never told me. Cause it is flu season?
[03:27] <Kyral> cafuego: I'm trying to help the person
[03:27] <Linuturk> just /join #damnsmalllinux
[03:28] <hirak21> well
[03:28] <hirak21> Kyral
[03:28] <cartesian1984> Linuturk, it has synaptic?
[03:28] <cafuego> Kyral: Linuturk Seems to manage to do that quite well
[03:28] <hirak21> what other distro do u recommend
[03:28] <robotgeek> hirak21: kubuntu, lol
[03:28] <hirak21> cuz i honestly dont want to install ubuntu again until i get the cds from the site
[03:28] <Kyral> hirak21: Well I started on Slack
[03:28] <hirak21> yeah i may have to go back to it
[03:28] <Linuturk> it has symantic
[03:28] <Linuturk> anyway
[03:28] <hirak21> i heard its for extreme users though
[03:28] <Linuturk> back to my problem!!
[03:28] <Linuturk> :-P
[03:28] <hirak21> like if i remember right when i installed slackware i couldent even find my cd rom drive
[03:29] <hirak21> was fucked up
[03:29] <bulio|lap> who can help me out with router?
[03:29] <Kyral> Linuturk: one of the MOTU said that Prism2 should be working
[03:29] <chovy> Q. I have a ppc G4 mac and am willing to start all over. What distribtution should i start with?
[03:29] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: wireless or wired?
[03:29] <bulio|lap> I can connect to router fine, and recieve a 192.... address
[03:29] <Linuturk> Kyral, link? or help?
[03:29] <bulio|lap> Ethernet
[03:30] <Madpilot> chovy: there's a PPC version of Ubuntu...
[03:30] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: what then is not working, be specific please so I dont have to ask too many subquestions.
[03:30] <Kyral> Linuturk: he said the module should be called prism2
[03:30] <bulio|lap>  Ubunt(---eth0---ethernet cable---router---dsl modem---phone line    (wireless PCs)
[03:30] <chovy> got it already mad...is it anygood?
[03:30] <eobanb> chovy, ubuntu ppc is a great choice
[03:30] <bulio|lap> I can recieve an address from my router
[03:30] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: any other computers at home?
[03:30] <bulio|lap> but I cannot ping it or browse the web
[03:30] <Kyral> hirak21: try MEPIS
[03:30] <Linuturk> Kyral, so I should modprobe prism2 ?
[03:30] <bulio|lap> ^^2 wireless
[03:30] <Linuturk> with a sudo?
[03:30] <bimberi> chovy: we're all very biased :)
[03:30] <Kyral> Linuturk: sudo modprobe prism2
[03:30] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: and both can get online?
[03:30] <chovy> ok...so I've installed it....how can i connect to the internet with it?
[03:30] <bulio|lap> yep
[03:30] <Madpilot> chovy: I run x86 myself, but a friend runs PPC and it looks identical to the x86 version...
[03:31] <eobanb> chovy, what type of internet connection do you have?
[03:31] <bulio|lap> ubuntu connects fine if I run pppoeconf, but not when I use dhcp
[03:31] <chovy> i have an internal mac 56k modem
[03:31] <Linuturk> Kyral, returns FATAL: Module Prism2 not found
[03:31] <eobanb> chovy, as far as i know, those are supported.  let me double-check though
[03:31] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: and....can you ping IP addresses at all? figure one out from your online computers, and then also try pinging computers on same network.
[03:31] <Kyral> Linuturk: sudo depmod -a
[03:31] <bulio|lap> cant ping
[03:32] <hirak21> damn
[03:32] <bulio|lap> when I ping my router I get ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted
[03:32] <hirak21> my connection dropped
[03:32] <hirak21> lol
[03:32] <cafuego> Madpilot: minus working java/flash/video
[03:32] <hirak21> so what else is a 1 cd linux distro
[03:32] <hirak21> thats good
[03:32] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: hm...Ill think for a few and tell you if I figure something out.
[03:32] <poimen> slackware
[03:32] <Linuturk> Kyral, back to prompt
[03:32] <Madpilot> cafuego: yeah, OK, I was going to mention those...
[03:32] <cafuego> hirak21: Just plain old Debian.
[03:32] <bulio|lap> ok
[03:32] <Kyral> I'm not gonna say gentoo....
[03:32] <poimen> and arch
[03:32] <bulio|lap> just PM me
[03:32] <Kyral> Linuturk: thats what its supposed to do
[03:32] <Linuturk> Kyral, now what?
[03:33] <Kyral> Linuturk: sudo modprobe prism2
 slackware
[03:33] <hirak21> slackware is 2 cds...
[03:33] <bimberi> chovy: System -> Administration -> Networking, Modem Connection, Properties and see how you go
[03:33] <Linuturk> Kyral, not found
[03:33] <eobanb> chovy, sorry if you've answered this before, but is there any particular reason you don't want to run mac os x on your G4?
[03:33] <dbernar1> Now I get stuck on another step. When I am configuring primary installation repo while configuring apt.
[03:33] <poimen> Archlinux then
[03:33] <cafuego> chovy: The modem should be detected and just work.
[03:33] <eobanb> cafuego, i believe it's a softmodem
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: lemme think
[03:34] <cafuego> Ohhh icky
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: You have net?
[03:34] <dell500> does anyone here know how to install gtkpod past 0.94??
[03:34] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: you can ping router from other computers?
[03:34] <chovy> i bought an "as is" mac os x, and after a week of use the HD crashed. I've only just bought another one
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: on the Ubuntu setup?
[03:34] <Linuturk> Kyral, sexual favors are in store for you if you get it working :-P  Kyral, yes, it's a public access point
[03:34] <chovy> 80Gb hitachi deskstar
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: I mean can you apt-get install from it?
[03:34] <bulio|lap> dbernar1: yes I can
[03:34] <chovy> the mac came with no cds :(
[03:34] <Linuturk> Kyral, no
[03:34] <AnonymousHive> chovy: I have the exact same hdd in this PC -_-
[03:35] <cafuego> chovy: That sucks, the owner shopuld have kept the original setup/rescue cds.
[03:35] <Kyral> okay...
[03:35] <chovy> it was an ex university machine so they couldn't
[03:35] <chovy> i was glad to have mac osx
[03:35] <cafuego> chovy: Mind you, you can download and install Darwin ;-)
[03:36] <bulio|lap> its like the router denies all connections
[03:36] <hirak21> fuck
[03:36] <hirak21> ihsgijafdjad
[03:36] <Kyral> Linuturk: look in /lib/modules/(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[03:36] <hirak21> im tired
[03:36] <hirak21> later Kyral
[03:36] <chovy> but didn't know (or expect it to crash) so i didn't make any backups
[03:36] <eobanb> chovy, i'm reasonably sure that modem won't work
[03:36] <Kyral> Linuturk: replacing (uname -r) with whatever it outputs
[03:36] <cafuego> chovy: Well, you probably couldn't have restored the OS from a backup cd/dvd/tape anyway.
[03:36] <chovy> whats darwin and how good is it. (im a win user and macos user...i like interfaces)
[03:36] <eobanb> actually are you sure it *has* a modem? university machines usually dont
[03:36] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: and you are positive you have a valid IP address? Have you tried power cycling everything? Like, shutting it down, unplugging the router, and mode, then turning all back on in order modem router computer.
[03:37] <robotgeek> Kyral: unfortunately the prism2_cs module is not installed in breezy, only the usb
[03:37] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: other than that, I have no other suggestions, it should work at this point.
[03:37] <chovy> im sure eob...i was using it fine with macos
[03:37] <eobanb> ah, okay.
[03:37] <cafuego> chovy: Darwin is the free bits of OSX.  (without the GUI)
[03:37] <Kyral> robotgeek: You have to be shittin' me
[03:37] <bulio|lap> damn
[03:37] <Linuturk> prism2 isn't in there
[03:37] <egytrack> how can i open webmin in browser ?
[03:37] <cafuego> robotgeek: orinoco_cs should work fine on any prism2 card, though,.
[03:37] <Linuturk> at all
[03:37] <robotgeek> Kyral: no, that is the only issue
[03:37] <bulio|lap> how can I re-start the connection?
[03:37] <robotgeek> cafuego: apparently not
[03:37] <dewdude> anyone have any suggestions on how to get read-only on NTFS working for users?
[03:37] <Linuturk> wait, usb is
[03:37] <Kyral> Linuturk: can you get this thing to a landline?
[03:38] <Linuturk> we tried that driver
[03:38] <SweetestSavage> Hi there everyone, I was just wondering.. there is certain server software that I need to download and run, however it depends on certain files that are only available for windows. How would I go about installing Windows files on an Extended 3 file systyem?
[03:38] <SweetestSavage> system*
[03:38] <cafuego> What is the card?
[03:38] <Linuturk> Kyral, tomorrow maybe
[03:38] <cafuego> Specifically?
[03:38] <chovy> should is stay with hoary or go darwin?
[03:38] <Linuturk> MN-520 by Microsoft
[03:38] <eobanb> chovy, i think your best options would be to either get a copy of mac os x or a modem that is known to work with linux, or perhaps figure out some other way of connecting to the internet, if that's possible for you
[03:38] <dbernar1> dewdude: ya, do you know what fstab is?
[03:38] <cafuego> chovy: Stay with Hoary.
[03:38] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: what software is it?
[03:38] <cafuego> chovy: But yeah, looks like the modem won't actually work.
[03:38] <dewdude> dbernar1, yeah, i made some edits...still nada
[03:38] <SweetestSavage> Toma- It's a game called Ragnarok Online.. the server software is called eAthena
[03:39] <Linuturk> Kyral, what do you have in mind?
[03:39] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: i see. you dont want the client?
[03:39] <Kyral> Linuturk: wait what does uname -r spit out?
[03:39] <dbernar1> dewdude: great, then, change it back to the original, and change the "defaults" to "defaults,umask=0222" then umount that partition, and run "sudo mount -a". Tested working.
[03:39] <chovy> what modems work with linux? (i dont even know where to BEGIN looking for that info)
[03:39] <SweetestSavage> Toma- No no.. the server software requires the game in order to run. And I don't know how to install that without an NTFS/Fat32 partition
[03:39] <dewdude> ok
[03:39] <dewdude> all i did was change defaults to begin with
[03:39] <cafuego> chovy: any hardware ones, that don't use USB and come in external boxes. That may be a problem for a G4.
[03:39] <dewdude> but i tried ro,auto,users
[03:40] <Linuturk> Kyral, 2.6.12-10-386
[03:40] <dwalton59> hello i  am new to this OS and I need help accessing the root user
[03:40] <chovy> i got 2 firewire ports so not really a prob (i think)
[03:40] <cafuego> !tell dwalton59 -about rootsudo
[03:40] <eobanb> modern macs don't have legacy serial ports, chovy, so you might be out of luck
[03:40] <cafuego> chovy: No, most hardware modem sare made for PCs ONLY, so they'd need a rs232 serial port.
[03:41] <chovy> oh. um....*over my head motion*
[03:41] <cafuego> chovy: Most modems that would work with linux are made for PC only.
[03:41] <pagefault> I am sure this question has been asked many times but I am trying to install the most rencently released ATI drivers in linux is there a page or howto do telll me how to go about doing this? thanks in advace
[03:41] <robotgeek> cafuego: so, you know anything about that card? i can forward all the lspci/lsmod/lshw  information to you
[03:41] <Xappe> cafuego, what about internal pci non-software modems?
[03:41] <chovy> doh
[03:41] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=928
[03:41] <SweetestSavage> pagefault, yes there is let me retrieve it
[03:41] <SweetestSavage> And, thank you Toma-
[03:41] <cafuego> Xappe: They _should_ be OK, but I don't personally know of any.
[03:41] <eobanb> yeah, a PCI modem might work
[03:41] <chovy> can i use a pc modem with pc drivers on a mac machine?
[03:42] <Linuturk> cafuego, *points to robotgeek and my wireless card*
[03:42] <eobanb> chovy, we're talking linux here
[03:42] <cafuego> That said, a PCI 33.6 modem i had made my 6800 PPC panic.
[03:42] <rickest> chovy: no
[03:42] <dwalton59> how do I set up a NTFS drive to bootup at start up?
[03:42] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: dunno about the erver tho
[03:42] <chovy> linux is the os. mac is the hardware yes?
[03:42] <cafuego> Linuturk: paste the specs
[03:42] <SweetestSavage> Toma- It's available in a linux compilation so ;)
[03:42] <eobanb> chovy in this case the fact that it's a mac shouldnt really matter.
[03:42] <aztek> chovy, not necessarily
[03:42] <Kyral> Okay...I'm done
[03:42] <SweetestSavage> pagefault: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:42] <Crackez> just goes to show you, always use good ole serial
[03:42] <cafuego> chovy: No, the idea is you get a _decent_ modem that requires no drivers.
[03:42] <dewdude> dbernar1, thank you..that mounts as read-only right?
[03:42] <pagefault> SweetestSavage, thank you so much
[03:42] <chovy> lol..ok...
[03:42] <SweetestSavage> No problem, have fune =)
[03:43] <SweetestSavage> fun *
[03:43] <Linuturk> cafuego, what specs? it's a microsoft MN-520 wireless card. Prism2 chipset
[03:43] <dewdude> err..yeah..the umask
[03:43] <egytrack> i got Error - Access denied for 127.0.0.1 in webmin .. what can i do ?
[03:43] <cafuego> Oh god
[03:43] <cafuego> No wonder it won't work ;-)
[03:43] <rickest> chovy: try http://linmodems.org/ for more info
[03:43] <dissolutions> dwalton59: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[03:43] <chovy> can we pm somewhere im getting confused with all the stuff :)
[03:43] <Linuturk> cafuego, it works under another distro of linux :-P
[03:43] <Linuturk> but I'm in love with ubuntu
[03:44] <robotgeek> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5941
[03:44] <Kyral> and a module that is SUPPOSED to be there isn't
[03:44] <cafuego> Linuturk: is pcmcia-cs installed?
[03:44] <Linuturk> cafuego, what is that?
[03:44] <Linuturk> where do I check?
[03:44] <dissolutions> I <3 Ubuntu fairly new to Ubuntu, it just makes daily tasks so much easier :)
[03:44] <robotgeek> Linuturk: sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs
[03:44] <cafuego> Linuturk: 'dpkg -l pcmcia-cs;
[03:45] <robotgeek> Linuturk: you should have gotten the hang of it by now :)
[03:45] <tburdick> so geda isn't working... and no one seems to know why
[03:45] <tburdick> I'm trying to compile it, but I get errors
[03:45] <Linuturk> cafuego, installed
[03:46] <tburdick> g_basic.c:160: error: `scm_t_catch_body' undeclared (first use in this function)
[03:46] <Kyral> Sorry Linuturk I have NFI until you can get that thing to a net conn
[03:46] <tburdick> it works fine in freebsd though?
[03:46] <tburdick> why would that be
[03:46] <Linuturk> Kyral, ok I'll look for you
[03:46] <dewdude> oh..i have like..two more questions...the nice graphical bootscreen that was added to Breezy...it looks dark on my pc and it doesn't stay up very long...and the system seems to sit during the boot process
[03:47] <dewdude> espically when loading kernel..it looks like it's sitting doing nothing for about 45 seconds
[03:47] <bimberi> tburdick: there is an ubuntu package for geda - in the universe repository
[03:47] <aztek> anyone know why when i sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap <mac:addy:for:router> it doesn't seem to save it
[03:47] <tburdick> bimberi: I just mentioned that doesn't work
[03:47] <cafuego> Linuturk: What entries are made in /var/log/syslog when you plug in the card?
[03:47] <Linuturk> dewdude, that happens when my system is waiting on a network device, like an ethernet card
[03:47] <tburdick> bimberi: not only that, its like a year old
[03:47] <dewdude> oooh
[03:47] <dewdude> ok
[03:47] <dewdude> err
[03:47] <dewdude> no
[03:47] <s1rk1sm> alright i've googled it and i can't find a fix to have ubantu work with my ati drivers
[03:48] <dewdude> it seems sit right before it starts all that
[03:48] <tburdick> gschem segfaults
[03:48] <tburdick> there's plenty of complaints about it in the forum and mailing list
[03:48] <tburdick> no one has any answers though
[03:48] <bimberi> sorry tburdick but i didn't see where you said that you were using the ubuntu packaged version
[03:48] <dewdude> it'll decompress the kernel..say loading...sit for about 30 seconds or so...then start the boot process
[03:48] <Madpilot> !enter
[03:48] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:48] <tburdick> my mistake, I may have not said it clear enough
[03:48] <navyn> anybody here use kino?
[03:49] <tburdick> is there some metapackage for development tools and header files?
[03:49] <silverton> is there a way that I can disable the power button once ubuntu has booted?
[03:49] <tburdick> maybe I'm missing something that I don't know about
[03:49] <dwalton59> how do I set up a NTFS drive to boot up at startup
[03:49] <cafuego> tburdick: Yes. 'build-essential'.
[03:49] <bimberi> tburdick: build-essential
[03:49] <tburdick> thank you
[03:49] <Linuturk> cafuego, it doesn't change
[03:49] <cafuego> Linuturk: is 'cardmgr' running?
[03:49] <eobanb> chovy-readingupo, http://www.devidal.tv/~chris/winmodems/pci_list.html
[03:50] <dissolutions> dwalton59: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs <--- the answer to your question.
[03:50] <dwalton59> thx
[03:50] <navyn> my dv transfers are distorted
[03:50] <NCLife> Falstius, you there?
[03:50] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[03:50] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[03:50] <tburdick> well whatever, I found some unstable debian packages
[03:50] <tburdick> maybe it'll work out
[03:50] <Linuturk> cafuego, the light on the card is on, so I'm guessing it is. I don't know how to check
[03:50] <robotgeek> dwalton59: check out help.ubuntu.com, or the starter guide in Help
[03:51] <dbernar1> yay!
[03:51] <tburdick> well, what do you know... the debian unstable packages DO work :-D
[03:51] <robotgeek> Linuturk: getting there, huh
[03:51] <cafuego> Linuturk: 'ps aux | grep cardmgr'
[03:51] <tburdick> someone should backport...
[03:51] <bimberi> tburdick: great! yay for debian :)
[03:51] <felix_> !deb
[03:51] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:51] <Linuturk> two entries
[03:52] <Madpilot> tburdick: check packages.ubuntu.com - the breezy-backports are listed there, as well as what's coming for dapper
[03:52] <Linuturk> cafuegotwo entries
[03:52] <tburdick> Madpilot: will check it out
[03:52] <tburdick> it'd be nice if I didn't have to add an unstable repo to my sources.lst
[03:52] <cafuego> Linuturk: Ok, so it's running. 'tail -f /var/log/syslog; - the pull the card and plug it back in, see what happens/
[03:54] <navyn> is there a good place to go to get video camera help with linux?
[03:54] <Linuturk> cafuego, nothing, but the light isn't on yet
[03:55] <SweetestSavage> Is there any way to change where new packages install? Unfortunately my linux distrobution was put on a small partition (only 2.3gb >_<) and it's running out of space..
[03:55] <Linuturk> cafuego, now it's saying stuff about eth0
[03:56] <Linuturk> but, my eth0 connection is active
[03:56] <Linuturk> it's looking for an ip :-/
[03:57] <Linuturk> nothing about the card
[03:57] <glass_> trying to get my manager into ubuntu
[03:57] <glass_> is there a tool that will let you see all nodes on the network
[03:57] <glass_> gui interface
[03:57] <glass_> i know about nmap
[03:57] <glass_> but its not gui enough
[03:57] <Aven> hey, how do I open .rar files?
[03:58] <Aven> it won't work :\
[03:58] <Linuturk> cafuego, still there?
[03:58] <AbdulSpiegel> umm does anyone know if there is a fast and easy way to make .mpegs work atleast?
[03:58] <bimberi> !rar
[03:58] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:58] <AbdulSpiegel> or a player that automatically plays it?
[03:58] <h4x> hello peple
[03:58] <Aven> thanks
[03:58] <h4x> im new to ubuntu
[03:58] <h4x> and linux in general
[03:58] <h4x> i need some help
[03:59] <cafuego> Linuturk: Do you have another network card in that laptop?
[03:59] <Madpilot> h4x: please just ask your questions...
[03:59] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, ! does mplayer play mpegs automatically or do i gota add codecs for it too?
[03:59] <Linuturk> cafuego, just my nic
[03:59] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, it should play them I believe
[03:59] <cafuego> Is that a yes or a no?
[03:59] <Linuturk> cafuego, but not another pcmcia card
[03:59] <cafuego> AH ok.
[03:59] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, ok i will try it
[03:59] <h4x> i just installed ubuntu, and it asked me for a user other than root
[03:59] <h4x> i can log in that user
[03:59] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about mplayer
[03:59] <h4x> which i am now
[04:00] <h4x> but i cant log in as root
[04:00] <cafuego> Linuturk: Does 'ifconfig -a' list an eth1?
[04:00] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, is mplayer on the package-manager?
[04:00] <h4x> how can i?
[04:00] <Madpilot> !rootsudo
[04:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:00] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, yes, ubotu sent you a link with a guide
[04:00] <Madpilot> h4x: see the URL above ^^^
[04:00] <h4x> thanks
[04:00] <Linuturk> cafuego, i got eth0, lo, and sit0
[04:00] <cafuego> Linuturk: grgr
[04:01] <Linuturk> gr?
[04:01] <Madpilot> h4x: short version: use sudo, not root, and the pw it asks for is your own user pw
[04:01] <Sanskrit> hy
[04:01] <cafuego> Linuturk: Can you try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188
[04:01] <h4x> thanks
[04:01] <Sanskrit> could someone tell me if ubuntu is like RedHat KDE based or something?
[04:02] <robotgeek> Sanskrit: no, ubuntu is a debian based distro running gnome
[04:03] <Sanskrit> someone?
[04:03] <AnonymousHive> My preference is Xfce
[04:03] <Sanskrit> oh sorry i didnt saw
[04:03] <Sanskrit> tks man
[04:03] <Sanskrit> =)
[04:03] <AnonymousHive> personally
[04:03] <Linuturk> cafuego, i tried that before.
[04:03] <intelikey> consoles all look the same....
[04:03] <chovy-readingupo> does hoary come with CD burning programs?
[04:03] <Linuturk> cafuego, it didn't work, and i think that person was using hoary, not breezy
[04:04] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: several
[04:05] <chovy-readingupo> not a sound one. I mean a drag and drop of folder selection data burner
[04:05] <chovy-readingupo> of = or
[04:05] <nickrud> chovy-readingupo, graveman, gnomebaker, k3b, xcdroast to name a few that fit that description
[04:06] <Linuturk> cafuego, still there?
[04:06] <chovy-readingupo> nickrud: thanks
[04:06] <nickrud> well, drag & drop in xcdroast, I'm not sure about
[04:06] <shadow98> does new ubunu have support for php5
[04:06] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: Nautilus - the file manager in Gnome - will burn data CDs like that
[04:06] <nickrud> and I missed the easiest one, of course :)
[04:06] <intelikey> nickrud no but folder selection covered that.
[04:06] <chovy-readingupo> my nautilis crashes "unexpectedly" everytime lol. ill install a package from the net later
[04:07] <khermans> Ubuntu rules!
[04:07] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, what did you do?
[04:07] <cafuego> Linuturk: Yes, I'ms till here. Out of ideas, though... short of claiming MS suck and spending on a decent card ;-)
[04:07] <MarcN> I was in O'Hare airport last night on a layover and noticed a college student running Linux on her laptop.  It was Ubuntu.  She wasn't even working towards a CS degree and wanted to learn some bash scripting.  Very cool.
[04:07] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: Nautilus on breezy works for me, and I also like K3B, despite the fact that it's a KDE app
[04:07] <chovy-readingupo> khermans: install the os. :) im a newbie at linux so i didnt touch anything :)
[04:08] <Linuturk> cafuego, crap. why did 2.6 have to lose support for my card?
[04:08] <khermans> Madpilot, what about GnomeBaker?
[04:08] <shadow98> how do i tell what packages are considered stable on ubuntu
[04:08] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html    ??
[04:08] <cafuego> Linuturk: You on 2.6.12-10 right?
[04:08] <khermans> shadow98, things in main and restricted are supported
[04:08] <Linuturk> cafuego, right
[04:08] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, you don't need any of that
[04:08] <cafuego> (coz Dapper has 2.6.15, which doesn't do pcmcia-cs anymore)
[04:08] <shadow98> khermans: where do i finf listing
[04:09] <shadow98> khermans: im looking for php5
[04:09] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, you already have w32codecs (I think you said this) and mplayer is in the repos
[04:09] <KaRupT> How can I host a website if my isp leases me a different IP every week?
[04:09] <cafuego> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[04:09] <Linuturk> cafuego, what do I do after that? are they dropping pcmcia all toghether?
[04:09] <khermans> shadow98, aptitude search php5
[04:09] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, were you able to install it alright?
[04:09] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i cant find it on package-manger,
[04:09] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[04:09] <jbroome> KaRupT: check out dyndns.org
[04:09] <nickrud> KaRupT, look into dyndns.org
[04:09] <intelikey> shadow98 anything in the main repos for any release is considered stable....
[04:09] <KaRupT> K thx guys
[04:09] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, are you following the guide ubotu sent you?
[04:09] <shadow98> khermans: i dont have ubuntu installed
[04:09] <cafuego> Linuturk: No, my orinoco works fine with dapper... there's "pcmciautils".
[04:09] <jbroome> KaRupT: you run a client on your machine that telly dyndns.org when your ip changes
[04:09] <khermans> shadow98, oh -- what dod you want from this chan then?
[04:10] <shadow98> i have debian
[04:10] <Madpilot> khermans: it burns coasters for me...
[04:10] <Linuturk> cafuego, it's prism2 usually supported though? can I upgrade to dapper and see if it works?
[04:10] <jbroome> shadow98: then go to #debian
[04:10] <khermans> Madpilot, works fine here
[04:10] <shadow98> im thinking about switching
[04:10] <jbroome> ahhh
[04:10] <cafuego> Linuturk: As long as you don't expect to be able to downgrade.
[04:10] <jbroome> then i'll stfu. :)
[04:10] <shadow98> because debian doesnt support oho5
[04:10] <shadow98> shit php5
[04:10] <khermans> shadow98, do it if you want -- there not much reason to if your Debian install is going strong
[04:10] <cafuego> Linuturk: It might be worth trying the 'wlan-ng' packages.
[04:10] <Madpilot> khermans: I haven't actually tried in in Breezy, but the Hoary version only did coasters...
[04:11] <cafuego> s/packages/drivers/
[04:11] <chovy-readingupo> is it safe to unhook a USB external HD, in linux? do i have to do something like in windows "its now safe to disconnect the hardware from your machine..." or mac "eject drive"?
[04:11] <Linuturk> cafuego, me and robotgeek did
[04:11] <khermans> Madpilot, breezy version working great -- used 100 of times
[04:11] <Linuturk> cafuego compiled it and everything
[04:11] <Linuturk> cafuego, no go
[04:11] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, just unmount it first
[04:11] <shadow98> thats why im trying to find out if ubuntu does before i waste my time installing
[04:11] <nickrud> chovy-readingupo, you should umount the device to be safe. I
[04:11] <Corrupter> where can i get the Python package from?
[04:11] <khermans> shadow98, it does
[04:11] <khermans> shadow98, php5 is there
[04:11] <cafuego> Linuturk: Does that card still work OK under WIndows or other Linuxes now?
[04:12] <Madpilot> khermans: I'll have to give it another shot; k3b works fine but it's UI bugs the heck out of me!
[04:12] <chovy-readingupo> khermans & nickrud: how do i unmount?
[04:12] <nickrud> shadow98, you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search the breezy package pool
[04:12] <shadow98> where can i find like a listing of stable packages for 5.10
[04:12] <Linuturk> cafuego, it works great under DSL 2.0 and Windows XP pro SP2
[04:12] <shadow98> thanks
[04:12] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, if it is shown on the dektop, right clikcit
[04:12] <h4x> i have a question.
[04:12] <cafuego> Linuturk: Which kernel is dsl2 using?
[04:12] <h4x> my computer locks up
[04:12] <jbroome> oooh, dsl 2?  i need to grab a new copy
[04:12] <h4x> for about 20 secounds
[04:12] <Linuturk> 2.4. something something
[04:12] <h4x> then goes on
[04:12] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, otherwise, something like "sudo umount /dev/UDISK"
[04:12] <cafuego> Hmmm.
[04:13] <h4x> espcially when im playing music
[04:13] <Madpilot> !enter
[04:13] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:13] <vinzone> hello
[04:13] <vinzone> anyone there
[04:13] <shadow98> ubuntu is being downloaded let the switch begin
[04:14] <saib0t> god morning...
[04:14] <Madpilot> vinzone: only 600+ people ;)
[04:14] <AnonymousHive> Yes, it is a god morning
[04:14] <vinzone> lol
[04:14] <Hobbsee> vinzone: no lol
[04:14] <h4x> my computer locks up after playing some music. it locks up in little burst. about 20 seconds at a time and in intervals of 1 minute
[04:14] <Linuturk> cafuego, and? you went hmmm, but stopped :/
[04:14] <chovy-readingupo> khermans: where do i type sudo? Also i can't right click..i have a single mouse button :(
[04:14] <AnonymousHive> Everyone must be downloading packages right now, the ubuntu repositories are sloooow right now
[04:14] <AnonymousHive> <70 kb/s
[04:14] <h4x> if i reboot my computer it helps, but eventually it will start doing it again
[04:14] <KaRupT> jbroome, I am sorry I made an account, but I am new to all this, can ya tell me what to do next?
[04:14] <vinzone> can anyone tell me if i can use a linksys wireless internet card on linux to connect to the internet
[04:14] <shadow98> any body know who has the fastest mirror im only get 60kb
[04:15] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell vinzone about wireless
[04:15] <shadow98> now 30
[04:15] <AnonymousHive> shadow98: I think there's just a lot of traffic right now
[04:15] <eobanb> vinzone, it depends.  if your model has a broadcom chipset you may have some trouble.
[04:15] <AnonymousHive> Normally I get around 200kbps from the repositories, but right now I'm getting about 60
[04:15] <Linuturk> vinzone, also, avoid the MN-520
[04:15] <Linuturk> :-P
[04:15] <vinzone> huh?
[04:15] <saib0t> Anyone in here using Cedega.? Does it work well under Ubuntu.?
[04:15] <h4x> is this a common problem or is it just me. i think it may be my hard drive not reading fast enough, or maybe my usb and my logitech mouse, as my point freezes.
[04:15] <intelikey> h4x "questions" are generally 'inqusitive' rather than 'informative'  :)
[04:16] <intelikey> ah a question.
[04:16] <shadow98> cs.umn.edu im getting 450kb
[04:16] <nickrud> Linuturk, your first bit of help here ? ;)
[04:16] <Linuturk> my card, which aparently isn't supported
[04:16] <Linuturk> nickrud, i try to help when I know something
[04:16] <Linuturk> I just don't know much
[04:16] <Linuturk> :-P
[04:16] <nickrud> experience is the best place to teach from :)
[04:16] <cafuego> Not ideal, though.
[04:17] <chovy-readingupo>  khermans: where do i type sudo? Also i can't right click..i have a single mouse button :(
[04:17] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: Applications menu --> Accessories --> Terminal
[04:17] <intelikey> h4x it has happened to some.   i had an older box that ubuntu did that way.  but after it stopped using ub on it it continued that problem......   so i'm not sure that ub is at fault.   although i'm not sure it wasnt.
[04:17] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, in the terminal window
[04:17] <youngcoder> what is te commad to install a tar.gz file?
[04:18] <Xappe> youngcoder: tar xzf
[04:18] <youngcoder> kk thnx
[04:18] <LoneWolf071> has anbyone here goptten apache2 working?
[04:18] <Linuturk> cafuego, so I have two options here, right? upgrade to dapper and see if it works? or try out ubuntu on the new laptop I'm getting
[04:18] <cafuego> Linuturk: Well, there's also the option of trying a 2.4 kernel on breezy.
[04:18] <jbroome> LoneWolf071: yes
[04:18] <Xappe> young, that's for extracting the file
[04:19] <cafuego> Mebbe go with Hoary.
[04:19] <Madpilot> LoneWolf071: yes, twice actually
[04:19] <h4x> acknoledged
[04:19] <Linuturk> :-/, i don't want to downgrade . . . that just doesn't feel rigbht
[04:19] <Linuturk> right*
[04:19] <intelikey> h4x if you can boot windows on that box and watch the key board led's closely, it may reviel that it is (at least now)  a hardware issue.
[04:19] <insomnd> is there an easy way to install kernel 2.6.13 in breezy?
[04:19] <insomnd> like with apt or synaptic?
[04:19] <youngcoder> when i use "tar xzf bluefish-1.0.4.tar.gz" it works but how do install it after that
[04:20] <nickrud> insomnd, no
[04:20] <LoneWolf071> lol
[04:20] <cafuego> insomnd: Why would you install an old kernel?
[04:20] <intelikey> h4x that assumes same symptoms ^
[04:20] <cafuego> youngcoder: Don't.
[04:20] <insomnd> cafuego, whats the newest kernel? isnt it 2.6.13?
[04:20] <cafuego> !info bluefish dapper
[04:20] <ubotu> bluefish: (advanced Gtk+ HTML editor), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1495 kB, Installed size: 6512 kB
[04:20] <cafuego> insomnd: Nope.
[04:20] <Linuturk> !dapper
[04:20] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:20] <cafuego> youngcoder: Do a manual backport from the dapper source deb, create a PACKAGE.
[04:20] <youngcoder> cafuego, what does tht tell me?
[04:21] <youngcoder> omg
[04:21] <youngcoder> i have no clu how to do that
[04:21] <insomnd> cafuego, k... how can i install the latest kernel then? i guess on kernel.org it's 2.6.14, but ive never compiled one before.
[04:21] <khermans> How can I move all the files created in the last 5 minutes to somewhere?
[04:21] <khermans> isnt there lika  ctime option?
[04:21] <cafuego> youngcoder: Then installing from a tarball is CERTAINLY not a good idea ;-)
[04:21] <insomnd> cafuego, i think there's support for my video card in the new kernel
[04:21] <cafuego> khermans: man find.
[04:21] <AnonymousHive> I can't figure out what I need to get to get streaming mp3 support...
[04:22] <AnonymousHive> Google is, for once, not helpful
[04:22] <chovy-readingupo> what about plugging IN a firewire HD? do I need to restart so it doesn't fry the logic circuits (or something)?
[04:22] <insomnd> !kernel
[04:22] <intelikey> khermans bash has a built in
[04:22] <khermans> intelikey, what is the bash syntax?
[04:22] <youngcoder> cafuego, well synaptic says the backport mirror repositories are missing and i cant install it thru synaptic
[04:23] <intelikey> -ot i think khermans
[04:24] <youngcoder> is there a current listing of the correct addreses for repositories so i can check mine to make sure they are correct?
[04:24] <intelikey> if file -ot file ;then  but you'd need to drop that in a for loop  or something.
[04:24] <spdl> night peeps
[04:24] <chovy> do i need to restart if i want to plug in a firewire HD?
[04:24] <chovy> night spdl
[04:25] <`Bryan> WOO HOOO, UBUNTU ROCKS!
[04:25] <eobanb> chovy, nope, shouldnt have to.
[04:26] <Aven> !rar
[04:26] <ubotu> rar is, like, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[04:26] <`Bryan> hmmm, who else things Ubuntu rocks?
[04:26] <intelikey> khermans something like this;  for x in `ls =1` ;do if [ $x -nt <somefile of the base date> ]  ;then mv $x <some place> ;fi ;done
[04:26] <jahshua> hello
[04:26] <Kyral> oy `Bryan
[04:26] <alejandrodelloco> well I would assume most of the people here
[04:26] <Linuturk> !wireless
[04:26] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:26] <`Bryan> 'lo Kyral
[04:27] <chovy> `Bryan: dunno...haven't used it enough yet
[04:27] <Kyral> Don't mind my friend, he's a Gentoo user
[04:27] <`Bryan> You know what, I'll be WC soon, come to my Wing :P
[04:27] <youngcoder> is there a current listing of the correct addreses for repositories so i can check mine to make sure they are correct?
[04:27] <bimberi> !sources
[04:27] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:27] <Kyral> `Bryan: Wrong network
[04:27] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:27] <robotgeek> `Bryan: did you know that Ubuntu means "Can't configure Gentoo?"
[04:27] <robotgeek> lol
[04:27] <Gankutsuou> i don't have a c compiler.
[04:27] <alejandrodelloco> haha
[04:27] <Kyral> lol
[04:27] <Gankutsuou> why oh why.
[04:28] <bob832> hi, it's me again  :-)   working on wpa support. . .when i start the wpasupplicant, it gives the error  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lhOrJM75.html
[04:28] <youngcoder> thnx bimberi
[04:28] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:28] <alejandrodelloco> I am just too lazy to spend my whole time compiling
[04:28] <bob832> what does this mean?
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: You didn't install one.
[04:28] <Kyral> robotgeek: its more like "I'm sick and tired of compiling Gentoo"
[04:28] <bimberi> youngcoder: yw :)
[04:28] <eobanb> i agree with Kyral :)
[04:28] <Gankutsuou> cafuego, i shouldn't have to.
[04:28] <robotgeek> Kyral: yeah, been there. done that
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: On Ubuntu, you do.
[04:28] <`Bryan> robotgeek: Gentoo, whats that?
[04:28] <Kyral> I can't take credit, that was one from Jeff Waugh
[04:28] <Gankutsuou> c compiler == standard in EVERY Unix/BSD/Linux distro.
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: Coz (as normal user) you have no need to compile.
[04:28] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 what kind of card are you using
[04:28] <Gankutsuou> pfft
[04:28] <`Bryan> GCC rules
[04:28] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: If you're a developer and you do, just install it.
[04:29] <Kyral> Okay okay no fighty
[04:29] <robotgeek> Kyral: :)
[04:29] <Gankutsuou> pfft, package dependency hell, gg.
[04:29] <alejandrodelloco> yeah, what's with GCC not being installed by default on ubuntu?
[04:29] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  its a dell turemobile 1350 (broadcom chipset)
[04:29] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' is not in fact very hard.
[04:29] <eobanb> Gankutsuou, huh???
[04:29] <youngcoder> where is the source.list file located?
[04:29] <insomnd> what is the latest kernel for breezy?
[04:29] <eobanb> Gankutsuou, sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:29] <rickest> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:29] <Corrupter> how do i install python?
[04:30] <cafuego> alejandrodelloco: By default, users don't need it.
[04:30] <Gankutsuou> that's not my point, any idiot that's used Debian before knows how to add a package, i'm just pissed that it doesn't come by default
[04:30] <Kyral> Corrupter: its installed
[04:30] <robotgeek> Corrupter: it's already installed
[04:30] <bimberi> Corrupter: it's installed by default
[04:30] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 can you also pasteboard an lspci for me
[04:30] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: File a wishlist bug, that would be more productive.
[04:30] <Corrupter> everything i need?
[04:30] <bob832> sure, one min
[04:30] <robotgeek> Gankutsuou: it's on the install cd, you can get it from there too :)
[04:30] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:30] <Gankutsuou> how about a DDoS http://www.ubuntu.org/ ? is that productive?
[04:30] <Gankutsuou> s/a/i
[04:30] <bimberi> insomnd: 2.6.12-10
[04:30] <Kyral> Corrupter: pretty much
[04:30] <Lynx> hi everyone, I'm new to using Ubuntu and I needed some help
[04:30] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: Yes, very sueful for everyone involved.
[04:30] <robotgeek> Gankutsuou: please stop trolling
[04:31] <cafuego> Growing up too, perhaps.
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> ok
[04:31] <robotgeek> jahshua: dpkg -L reice | less ?
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> fine
[04:31] <youngcoder> how do i put the new lines into the source.list file?
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> i hate you all *cry*
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> btw, get the gcc in there, ;)
[04:31] <Kyral> ...
[04:31] <Kyral> well...
[04:31] <Lynx> how do I intall macromedia flash
[04:31] <jahshua> robotgeek ??
[04:31] <learnfromscratch> i did chmod 777 ./* in lftp prompt.. it says no file called * !!!!
[04:31] <bimberi> youngcoder: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <robotgeek> jahshua: what does that show?
[04:31] <Kyral> ubotu: tell Lynx about flash
[04:32] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4ibXqq86.html
[04:32] <jahshua> says its not installed
[04:32] <jahshua> but i just installed it ?
[04:32] <jahshua> hmm
[04:32] <newbies> anyone knows here whats the ounterpart of dreamweaver in linux?
[04:32] <robotgeek> jahshua: dpkg doesn't lie :)
[04:32] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards the 1350 uses ndiswrapper
[04:33] <jahshua> ok :)
[04:33] <jahshua> so i should reinstall
[04:33] <Linuturk> newbies, try NVU
[04:33] <Lynx> is there a link anyone can give to go to so I can install flash, I would appreciate any help
[04:33] <Madpilot> !flash
[04:33] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:33] <intelikey> robotgeek hehhe does if you do things it doesn't know about...
[04:33] <Kyral> Lynx: did you get a PM from Ubotu?
[04:33] <Madpilot> Lynx: see the bot ^^^
[04:33] <newbies> Linuturk, i already have it but it runs different. =(
[04:33] <robotgeek> intelikey: hmm, i see the reference
[04:33] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  yeah, i have ndiswrapper installed and configured,  before i started working on the wpa support, i was able to connect to the router
[04:34] <Linuturk> what cheap wireless card can I get (under $50) that works out of the box with Ubuntu and future releases of Ubuntu?
[04:34] <Madpilot> newbies: handcoding produces better websites - try Bluefish or Screem
[04:34] <Lynx> no pm
[04:34] <alejandrodelloco> mm
[04:34] <Linuturk> pcmcia preferred
[04:34] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 do you know the drill on configuring wpa_supplicant
[04:34] <insomnd> bimberi, will i have to compile 2.6.14 or is there another way?
[04:34] <Madpilot> Lynx: Flash info is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:34] <learnfromscratch> huh .. no one uses lftp ??? please help me.. i did chmod 777 ./* in lftp prompt.. it says no file called ./* !!!!
[04:35] <insomnd> bimberi, also, is it safe to install it?
[04:35] <Lynx> thank so much, I appreciate it.
[04:35] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  i followed the how-to at the forums:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450&highlight=wpa
[04:35] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  no
[04:36] <insomnd> oh and another question. if i install dapper test2 now, can i just 'apt-get upgrade' later and get the final release? im installing it for a friend
[04:36] <newbies> Madpilot, oks
[04:36] <alejandrodelloco> ok
[04:36] <_jason> learnfromscratch, I don't use lftp, but maybe it doesn't support wildcard expansion like in bash?
[04:37] <dooglus> learnfromscratch: FTP is a bit stupid.  you might find that you need to turn globbing on.  or maybe there's a "-R" flag available for chmod.  You might consider using sftp instead, too.
[04:37] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 can you pastebin your wpa_supplicant.conf (feel free to redact ssid, passkey, psk, and any other sensitive info)
[04:37] <dooglus> insomnd: you can, yes
[04:37] <dooglus> insomnd: is your friend experienced with linux?
[04:37] <insomnd> dooglus, no :p
[04:38] <dooglus> insomnd: because you can expect dapper to be very broken at points between now and April
[04:38] <Madpilot> insomnd: then install Breezy instead, it's stable
[04:38] <intelikey> _jason not that i'm clued in to what exactly you are doing but you could try M$ wild cards ?    if the server is M$ it may take *.*
[04:38] <Lukian_> what's the fastest way to "switch user" ?
[04:38] <insomnd> Madpilot, problem is that the video card is better supported in kernel 2.6.13, which is apparently in dapper
[04:38] <dooglus> Lukian_: control-alt-f7 and control-alt-f8 switch between the 2 logged in users
[04:38] <_jason> learnfromscratch, try intelikey's suggestion ^
[04:39] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TTKEP175.html
[04:39] <bimberi> insomnd: dapper has 2.6.15 (as far as i can tell), ubuntu kernels are heavily patched so rolling your own can be problematic
[04:39] <alejandrodelloco> bob832, you might want to tell it what device to read
[04:40] <MrFarts> insomnd, what video card ?
[04:40] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 what are the names of your network devices (eth0, etc)
[04:41] <insomnd> MrFarts, its integrated onto the mobo. Via cle266 unichrome based i guess
[04:41] <insomnd> MrFarts, via has drivers, but they're crap, they dont compile and the readmes are useless
[04:41] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  eth0, wlan0
[04:41] <newbies> anyone knows how can i fixed this problem  WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[04:41] <MrFarts> insomnd, integrated graphics tend to suck
[04:41] <Lukian_> dooglus: f7 worked, f8 gave me console :o
[04:42] <insomnd> newbies, ssh?
[04:42] <MrFarts> insomnd, are you strapped for cash ?
[04:42] <newbies> insomnd, yup
[04:42] <insomnd> MrFarts, i know... but this is a microatx case, and i didnt have a lot of options
[04:42] <newbies> insomnd, i can log in to the server
[04:42] <insomnd> newbies, if you're sure you're connecting to the right computer, you can remove the entry from trustedhosts file
[04:42] <newbies> insomnd, i can't log in to the server
[04:42] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 do you know what driver you are using?
[04:42] <kinection> Ubuntu detects 192.168.0.1 as a DNS server each start up, i have to go in and manually reconfigure it to the correct DNS. How do i fix this?
[04:42] <MrFarts> insomnd, what form-factor card do you need for microatx ?
[04:43] <newbies> insomnd, wer can i find that file?
[04:43] <MrFarts> there has to be something
[04:43] <insomnd> MrFarts, mine uses half-sized pci/agp cards
[04:43] <MrFarts> insomnd, in my experience integrated video is fuzzy too
[04:43] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  it would be ndiswrapper, correct?
[04:43] <LoneWolf071> i accidently deleted /etc/apache2, how do i make a new one?
[04:43] <MrFarts> insomnd, it's just crap all around
[04:43] <alejandrodelloco> bob832, yeah. ok.
[04:44] <insomnd> MrFarts, video works fine with vesa
[04:44] <jordo23_> _jason: you there?
[04:44] <insomnd> MrFarts, just no acceleration
[04:44] <chovy> should i upgrade my 5.04 to 5.10? would this help with driver detection for my modem?
[04:44] <_jason> jordo23, i am
[04:44] <MrFarts> insomnd, the output probably sucks if it's analog
[04:44] <insomnd> MrFarts, movies using SDL uses 40% cpu of 1.6ghz
[04:44] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 try this: sudo wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:44] <jordo23_> _jason: You know of any good apps lists for Ubuntu?
[04:44] <intelikey> LoneWolf071 mkdir
[04:44] <MrFarts> i've never seen an onboard video card that doesn't have shitty picture quality
[04:45] <_jason> jordo23, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <LoneWolf071> intelikey, lol, i ment with the config files in it?
[04:45] <ElitePete> MrFarts, my onboard is fine
[04:45] <insomnd> newbies, look into the error message. i think it's in ~/.ssh/trustedhosts
[04:45] <intelikey> oh sorry LoneWolf071 i thought you said /var  lol my bad.
[04:45] <insomnd> or knownhosts
[04:45] <kinection> LoneWolf071: you can't get your config files back after you delete them.
[04:45] <ElitePete> MrFarts, especially since ubuntu doesnt support my x700 pro yet
[04:45] <jordo23_> _jason: no, any lists recommending apps?
[04:45] <LoneWolf071> kinection, ok, then how do i get the default
[04:45] <_jason> jordo23, you can try searching the wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <chovy> anyone? should i upgrade my 5.04 Ubuntu to 5.10? would this help with driver detection for my modem?
[04:46] <kinection> LoneWolf071: i think you have to reinstall
[04:46] <intelikey> yeah etc hehe   i really blew that one...
[04:46] <Yarou_> hmm
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> did that... apt-get --purge remove apache2
[04:46] <MrFarts> ElitePete, maybe it's just my luck :)
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> then installede it
[04:46] <landotter> MrFarts, onboard Intel i8** is usually just fine, too. Cheap as well.
[04:46] <newbies> insomnd, oks
[04:46] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  is says    Unsupported driver 'ndiswrapper' .
[04:46] <MrFarts> i've had several onboad Nvidia cards
[04:46] <MrFarts> they all sucked
[04:46] <insomnd> brb
[04:46] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 hmm
[04:47] <MrFarts> then again, most cards suck for 2d output
[04:47] <nickrud> chovy, maybe, but modems aren't too well dealt whith in ubuntu yet. They're working on better modem support for dapper
[04:47] <MrFarts> analog 2d output that is
[04:47] <jordo23_> _jason: You prefer Gnome or KDE?
[04:47] <kinection> LoneWolf071:  and it's not giving you a new httpd.conf?
[04:47] <insomnd> apparently xserver-xorg-driver-via should support my card... but it doesnt
[04:47] <_jason> jordo23, personally, i like gnome.  But you should try both, or at least read about it for yourself so you can decide
[04:47] <chovy> lol...it sounds like id be better off using my new HD for macos or <gasp> win98. at least then ill be connected.
[04:48] <jordo23_> _jason: I have used KDE up until Ubuntu....when using Debian, I used KDE.
[04:48] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 where did you put bcmwl5a.inf
[04:48] <insomnd> newbies ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[04:48] <chovy> thnx nickrud, khermans for your help.
[04:49] <_jason> jordo23, ah, so what do you prefer?
[04:49] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 better yet http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA
[04:49] <intelikey> chovy not likely that any modem suport is really of any importance to the developeres anymore.  it's all highspeed or else highspeed  or even maybe highspeed.
[04:49] <chapium> how well do ipods and ubuntus play with each other?
[04:50] <chapium> !bot
[04:50] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[04:50] <eobanb> chovy did you see the link i sent you
[04:50] <chapium> there he is
[04:50] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 do you know if your version of wpa_supplicant was compiled with ndiswrapper support
[04:51] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  no i do not
[04:51] <kinection> hello, how do I get ubuntu to detect the correct DNS servers on start up?
[04:51] <nickrud> intelikey, they are working on it, but it's the non-free drivers that are tripping them up.
[04:51] <newbies> insomnd, im already here, ive seen fingerfrints
[04:51] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 I think your output of "unsupported driver ndiswrapper" means it doesn't have it compiled in there
[04:51] <jordo23_> _jason: KDE, but it is hard for me to use KDE because it seems Gnome is the supported desktop by main distros (except Suse). At least from a business standpoint, there needs to be a standard, and it seems to me that if one was adopted now, it would be Gnome. KDE is more customizable though.
[04:51] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  is there a way to find out?
[04:51] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  oh
[04:52] <vinzone> what is ndiswrapper
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 remove the apt package for wpa_supplicant and download the source for wpa_supplicant
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA
[04:52] <tritium> jordo23_: KDE is well-suppoprted on ubuntu...if you want to try it, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bon832 that should walk you through it
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 that should walk you through it
[04:53] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  alright, i've give that a try, thanks for the link
[04:53] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 no prob
[04:53] <jordo23_> tritium: I know its pretty well supported, but I am looking to invoke Ubuntu desktops into the company I work for.
[04:53] <gandhii> has anyone else have trouble with one's standard normal keyboard not working on the install?  using an nforce4 mb..  if thats relevant
[04:54] <tritium> jordo23_: okay, just making sure you were aware of kubuntu
[04:54] <mshade> ganadist, ps/2 or usb?
[04:54] <bob832> vinzone:  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[04:54] <jordo23_> tritium: no prob. thanks. Kde rules!
[04:54] <bob832> vinzone:  bascially, a program that allows linux to use windows drivers
[04:55] <vinzone> how do i use it to let me use my wireless card on linux
[04:55] <alejandrodelloco> vinzone
[04:55] <alejandrodelloco> what kind of card
[04:55] <LoneWolf071> i accidently deleted /etc/apache2, how do i make a new one?
[04:56] <vinzone> linksys
[04:56] <vinzone> someone on forums said to use ndiswrapper
[04:56] <_jason> jordo23, a standard you say... that's going to be a touch fight
[04:56] <mshade> vinzone, check out ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[04:56] <QQ_ghost> has anyone here had problems compiling?
[04:56] <mshade> vinzone, there's a pretty thorough howto there
[04:56] <QQ_ghost> and over come them
[04:56] <chapium> Anyone use Banshee?
[04:56] <_jason> jordo23, tough even
[04:56] <tritium> mshade: ndiswrapper is packaged for ubuntu (available in the repos)
[04:56] <Hobbsee> QQ_ghost: what are you compiling?
[04:56] <chapium> how does it compair to rhythmbox
[04:56] <Milk_> anyone have experiance with tovid?  or maybe know how to get from the DVD file structure to a burned dvd?
[04:57] <techrush> i love you guys
[04:57] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: (guessing a bit here) sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[04:57] <QQ_ghost> Hobbsee: midnight commander
[04:57] <mshade> but there's a great howto at the ndiswrapper site :)
[04:57] <Kyral> !ndiswrapper
[04:57] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:57] <_jason> night guys
[04:57] <Hobbsee> QQ_ghost: pastebin the error?
[04:57] <alejandrodelloco> vinzone read everything on there
[04:57] <jordo23_> _jason: Yeah, Gnome would probably end up winning. Especially since it's pushed by Red Hat and Mandriva. (and Debian).
[04:57] <scott_> hey, sorry to interrupt, but how do i change the share settings on my printer so i can have it available to my whole samba network.
[04:57] <scott_> ?
[04:57] <intelikey> QQ_ghost why are you compiling mc ?
[04:58] <alejandrodelloco> vinzone http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:58] <Milk_> anybody?
[04:58] <MrFarts> the problem with KDE is that it's sloppy
[04:58] <QQ_ghost> Hobbsee: sometimes just love the CUI
[04:58] <MrFarts> gnome is bit limited, but at least it's more or less consistent
[04:58] <alejandrodelloco> scott would you consider print over ip or do you wanna use samba
[04:58] <intelikey> !info mc
[04:58] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: : sometimes just love the CUI
[04:58] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[04:59] <LoneWolf071> bimberi, didn't do it...
[04:59] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: :( ('twas a guess)
[04:59] <LoneWolf071> bimberi, TY
[04:59] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[05:00] <ubotu> kde is much better than xfce!
[05:00] <alejandrodelloco> heehee
[05:00] <nickrud> mmm, mc kicks nautilus's but
[05:00] <scott_> alejandrodelloco: i could use print over ip. i just want my networked computers to print from my local printer
[05:00] <intelikey> well who would argue that....
[05:00] <aztek> what's the command to see my mountable devices/partitions
[05:00] <LoneWolf071> ubotu, KDE Ropcks, except in terms of configuring
[05:00] <ubotu> LoneWolf071: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:00] <mshade> aztek, fdisk -l
[05:00] <jordo23_> Kde rules, but some people in my office would be too stupid to use it as a business desktop.
[05:00] <aztek> yea yea
[05:00] <aztek> thanks
[05:00] <nickrud> mc, mutt and vim, everything else is bloat :)
[05:00] <LoneWolf071> ubotu, ???
[05:00] <ubotu> LoneWolf071: I don't know
[05:00] <mshade> aztek, 'mount' by itself to see what's already mounted
[05:00] <aztek> i remembered the -l option but not the command :D
[05:01] <Yarou_> um guys, how do i get c compilers? i need to compile UnrealIRCd
[05:01] <tritium> Yarou_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:01] <Yarou_> ty
[05:01] <intelikey> aztek fdisk -l /dev/<blah>
[05:01] <MrFarts> jordo23, i found kde to be quite disappointing in certain respects
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> ubotu, i've tried to configure things like font size and it doesn't work very well
[05:01] <ubotu> LoneWolf071: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:01] <tritium> QQ_ghost: so you realize that mc is in the universe repo?
[05:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell LoneWolf071 about yourself
[05:01] <QQ_ghost> tritium: i do now. lol thanx people...
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> lol...
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> i just got it...
[05:02] <LoneWolf071> he's a bot
[05:02] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: :)
[05:02] <intelikey> :)
[05:02] <alejandrodelloco> See, I was trying not to embarrass you
[05:02] <alejandrodelloco> sheesh
[05:02] <QQ_ghost> LoneWolf071: :)
[05:02] <jordo23_> MrFarts:  which aspects?
[05:02] <Athena_Exclamati> hello, 1st time in this channel
[05:02] <alejandrodelloco> hello
[05:02] <MrFarts> jordo23, inconsistent, the applications are ugly
[05:02] <QQ_ghost> LoneWolf071: took me a while too...
[05:02] <La_PaRCa> hey kids
[05:02] <bimberi> hi Athena_Exclamati
[05:02] <MrFarts> jordo23, lots of bugs
[05:02] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  so far so good, quick question though, in the wpa_supplicant.conf file, should i put in things like:   protp=WPA      key_mgmt=WPA-PSk
[05:03] <mshade> i think kde is by far the most featureful DE... but it needs a bit of polish and it needs to be toned down a little.  too much clutter.
[05:03] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 try once without, then with
[05:03] <mshade> for example, i love ioslaves (fish:// et al)
[05:03] <Athena_Exclamati> could anyone give me some hints on how to install ubuntu on a pentium 100 (old machine)
[05:03] <mshade> and the integration is great
[05:03] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 I am not sure myself, so trial and error is your best freind
[05:03] <jordo23_> MrFarts: The applications are as ugly as you make them.
[05:03] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  lol
[05:03] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  ok
[05:03] <MrFarts> mshade, yeah, it's quite promising, but it doesn't feel very professional
[05:03] <nickrud> ioslaves almost make kde (ug) nice
[05:03] <MrFarts> jordo23, not really
[05:03] <La_PaRCa> Athena_Exclamati, I would go with a different distro. Maybe damn small linux.
[05:03] <QQ_ghost> does KDE have a right-click-to-edit menuing system?
[05:04] <mshade> ioslaves is awesame
[05:04] <MrFarts> jordo23, some of them are fundamentally ugly
[05:04] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: (another guess) sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[05:04] <intelikey> QQ_ghost very
[05:04] <MrFarts> the dialog boxes are always ugly
[05:04] <fishfillet> need help on printer sharing? shameless plug here = http://gerona.gov.ph/davidjr/?p=57
[05:04] <alejandrodelloco> Athena_Exclamati maybe you should look into thin clients
[05:04] <robotgeek> how much time does resizing a partition take?
[05:04] <MrFarts> whoever designed that widget has no sense of balance
[05:04] <jordo23_> MrFarts: Whatever, the apps are better. Konq rules over Nautilus.
[05:04] <mshade> the QT filepicker is much nicer than the GTK counterpart, too
[05:04] <Athena_Exclamati> I habe dsl on this computer already but I wish to upgrade to a bigger distro
[05:04] <Metro> hey all....my fat32 HD (hdb1) won't mount. "mount -t vfat dev/hdb1 home/Desktop/Fat" tells me "mount point does not exist" although i just created the folder, and have root
[05:04] <mshade> konq *does* rule over nautilus
[05:05] <mshade> Metro, /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:05] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: how much disk & memory?
[05:05] <MrFarts> mshade, perhaps, but kde is a mess
[05:05] <mshade> Metro, gotta have that leading /
[05:05] <mshade> MrFarts, not so much a mess, as a haven of clutter
[05:05] <MrFarts> mshade, i gave the latest version a whirl a few days ago; went back to gnome
[05:05] <LoneWolf071> bimberi, nope, nothing
[05:05] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: k (i was less confident about that one anyway)
[05:05] <jordo23_> mshade: Depends how big  your monitor is :)
[05:05] <robotgeek> how much time does resizing a partition take? i have 30 GB resize to 15 GB, and have 768 MB ram :)
[05:06] <poimen> hi
[05:06] <mshade> jordo23, heh
[05:06] <EvilDucky-tm> Is there a version of ubuntu that will network install with only 16 MB of RAM?
[05:06] <QQ_ghost> Metro: why not just go to places menu then (that partition size here)
[05:06] <Athena_Exclamati> one hd with 10gb and another with 6gb as for memory I got 64 mb
[05:06] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: nope
[05:06] <mshade> jordo23, i have trouble running kde uncluttered on a dual-head setup
[05:06] <MrFarts> mshade, but that said, i really liked konsole and konqueror
[05:06] <mshade> jordo23, but i still *hate* gnome
[05:06] <Metro> mshade, that was in IRC typo....with leading /, same result
[05:06] <poimen> I have a old pentium 2 500 MHZ  with 128 of ram
[05:06] <jordo23_> mshade: then fix your resolution or something,
[05:06] <poimen> it will work ok with ubuntu?
[05:06] <EvilDucky-tm> Even Sarge needs 32 and Woody is reported to have problems.
[05:06] <intelikey> Athena_Exclamati you'll need about 1.4 g of hd space for ub to do what dsl is doing now.    but the 64m of ram will sure slow it down.
[05:06] <Athena_Exclamati> I am installing on the 10gb hd using 1500 mb with swap
[05:06] <MrFarts> poimen, define "work"
[05:06] <dabaR> Is this really a kde vs gnome discussion on #ubuntu?
[05:06] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: try PTYLinux
[05:06] <netdur> how to fix... Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:06] <mshade> Metro, give the exact command and error.. copy and paste it
[05:07] <dabaR> poimen: it should work. Look into xfce for a lightweight desktop environment if gnome is slow.
[05:07] <mshade> Metro, pm me if too much text
[05:07] <intelikey> poimen absolutly
[05:07] <poimen> MrFarts : well I will run video/ audio I can browese the net
[05:07] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: you could do a server install and then install xubuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[05:07] <nickrud> poimen, that memory is too small for gnome, trust me :)
[05:07] <Metro> root@ubuntu:~# mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:07] <Metro>        mount: mount point /home/Desktop/Fat does not exist
[05:07] <poimen> ok
[05:07] <poimen> fluxbox
[05:07] <poimen> ?
[05:07] <intelikey> poimen with that hardware there is nothing linux that you cant run.
[05:07] <Athena_Exclamati> yes but as ub has a smaller graphic environ as gnome I was hoping that it would run smoothly :)
[05:07] <dabaR> Metro: create the directory
[05:07] <EvilDucky-tm> I need a linux o/s for an old laptop -- it must netinst, and have printer drivers, usb, and acpi included
[05:07] <poimen> vs xfce?
[05:07] <nickrud> it'll fit nicely
[05:08] <MrFarts> poimen, yes
[05:08] <shadow98> or icewm is light to
[05:08] <intelikey> poimen even gnome will be fine on it.
[05:08] <poimen> :)
[05:08] <Metro> the Fat directory is on my desktop
[05:08] <dabaR> intelikey: linux is the kernel, some software is gnu, some is X, and so on, and the distro is Ubuntu.
[05:08] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: k, give it a try then :)
[05:08] <Metro> has been
[05:08] <MrFarts> poimen, but not comfortably with gnome
[05:08] <nickrud> swap, swap, swap with 128
[05:08] <EvilDucky-tm> Kyral, I've never heard of PTYLinux
[05:08] <mshade> Metro, ls -ld /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:08] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: not many people have
[05:08] <root_> hi
[05:08] <MrFarts> poimen, can you buy some more ram ?
[05:08] <intelikey> thanks for the lecture dabar.
[05:09] <dabaR> sure
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> ANything you care to tell me before I go lycos or hotbot it?
[05:09] <root_> anyone can help me ?
[05:09] <poimen> I can replace the 128 for a 256 tomorow
[05:09] <Athena_Exclamati> but the problem is that it does not run the x windows system it makes the screen go crazy!
[05:09] <intelikey> nickrud no it wont
[05:09] <MrFarts> EvilDucky-tm, yes, use google instead ;P
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> Kyral from the end-luser perspective
[05:09] <QQ_ghost> root: wassup?
[05:09] <MrFarts> poimen, that will help quite a bit
[05:09] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: its basically terminal and thats it
[05:09] <nickrud> poimen, I ran gnome on a 256M 466, and it went fine
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> MrFarts, j00 r pHu|\|33
[05:09] <landotter> xfce4 takes a couple megs more memory than flux, and offers soooo many more features.
[05:09] <MrFarts> EvilDucky-tm, pardon ?
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> Kyral -- I need something like Debian
[05:10] <mshade> landotter, yeah, but flux is just cool.
[05:10] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: *Shrug*
[05:10] <Metro> root@ubuntu:~# ls -ld /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:10] <Metro> ls: /home/Desktop/Fat: No such file or directory
[05:10] <poimen> ok install finished :) ( lol I asked when the install was almost done :)
[05:10] <QQ_ghost> root_: wassup?
[05:10] <MrFarts> what exactly is xfce ?
[05:10] <EvilDucky-tm> MrFarts, what's teh matter, don't you speak plain l33t?
[05:10] <dabaR> EvilDucky-tm: debian is quiwe similar to debian.
[05:10] <Metro> but i am looking at the folder on my desktop
[05:10] <mshade> xfce is the 'cholesterol free' environment.  who wants a desktop that's not l33t, without fat?
[05:10] <tritium> MrFarts: apt-cache show xfce
[05:10] <dabaR> ubotu: tell MrFarts about windowmanagers
[05:10] <nickrud> intelikey, well, maybe gnome alone, but as soon as I had gimp and ooffice running, I started feeling the swap :)
[05:10] <MrFarts> dabaR, gnome is not a window manager
[05:10] <EvilDucky-tm> dabaR, it is -- heh?!?   =P
[05:10] <shadow98> i dont remember ubuntu asking for root password during install...is this correct?
[05:10] <root_> kernel panic unable to mount root fs on unknow block (0,0)  how can i solve this problem
[05:10] <landotter> mshade, I do xfce-xfce panel+fbpanel very cool!
[05:10] <tritium> MrFarts: xfce4, rather
[05:10] <intelikey> poimen i ran ubuntu with kde on a p133mmx with 64m ram.  it did swap a little. and you had to not multi-task needlessly but it ran fine.
[05:10] <EvilDucky-tm> (Who's have thunk it?)
[05:10] <poimen> I have a Pentium D 3.0 ghz running ubuntu :D and I got this PC from a friend because he was going to take the system to the tash
[05:11] <dabaR> MrFarts: regardless ubotu has that as his factoid. read the link, it is cool.
[05:11] <QQ_ghost> root_: when do you get the error?
[05:11] <mshade> landotter, i do flux + CLI :) unstoppable
[05:11] <root_> when i compile a new kernel
[05:11] <intelikey> nickrud oo maybe.  gimp if the image is very larg yes. but you could overload any system if you tried to.
[05:11] <MrFarts> dabaR, i read that link... about 8 years ago
[05:11] <poimen> trash*   so I want this 500<MHZ pc to play with things I dont kwon what I want it for lol
[05:11] <root_> 2.6.14.3 from kernel.org
[05:11] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, what platform are you installing on -- Ubuntu installer is know for it's buggy ACPI routing issues
[05:11] <root_> ubuntu
[05:12] <poimen> brb going to hook the network to the other 500Mhz
[05:12] <root_> amd athlon 2200+
[05:12] <bimberi> shadow98: that's right, ubuntu uses sudo and the root password is disabled
[05:12] <dabaR> did you ask what xfce is? it is shown there.
[05:12] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, 'platform' means hardware
[05:12] <QQ_ghost> root_: are you redoing the initrd as well?
[05:12] <Athena_Exclamati> [bimberi] : as i said I am using dsl currently but I am stuck to the additional program only provided by the distro, I mean if I want to install Open Office 2.0 It gives only the 1.0.4 version that is obsolete.
[05:12] <bimberi> shadow98: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:12] <jordo23_> MrFarts: Can you recommend  me some cool Gnome apps?
[05:12] <dabaR> MrFarts: they added xfce since then?
[05:12] <shadow98> how do i know what root password is on ubuntu
[05:12] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, it's the motherboard chipset I'm asking about -- for instance is it a laptop?
[05:12] <Yarou_> man i'm getting a lot of errors when trying to compile Unreal
[05:12] <robotgeek> ubotu: tekk shadow98 about root
[05:12] <ubotu> robotgeek: I give up, what is it?
[05:12] <MrFarts> jordo23, for doing what ?
[05:12] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell shadow98 about root
[05:13] <MrFarts> dabaR, if xfce a window manager ?
[05:13] <nickrud> intelikey, yes, I was very much open this, close that, and it got to be too much. Interfered with my flow, you know?
[05:13] <MrFarts> it looks like another desktop environment
[05:13] <root_> QQ_ghost root_: are you redoing the initrd as well?................it says that i need cramfs patch to get a initrd that works
[05:13] <Metro> shadow, root pw is the password for the first account you created during install
[05:13] <MrFarts> based on gtk
[05:13] <dabaR> MrFarts: that page and what tritium told you tell you all about it. a de.
[05:13] <jordo23_> MrFarts: Didn't have anything in mind....for developement or programming built using GTK maybe?
[05:13] <root_> nop isnt a laptop
[05:13] <EvilDucky-tm> ahhh... sooo...
[05:13] <root_> desktop
[05:13] <intelikey> no i don't know.   have no idea what you do with your computer.....
[05:13] <shadow98> should i set one?
[05:14] <Yarou_> super saiyan
[05:14] <tritium> Metro: not exactly...the first user setup has sudo priveleges
[05:14] <tritium> shadow98: no need...use sudo (read the wiki page for details)
[05:14] <Yarou> yay time to hope
[05:14] <MrFarts> dabaR, try anjuta
[05:14] <Yarou> *hop
[05:14] <EvilDucky-tm> Sounds like you're on the right trakc -- I though maybe --nolapic | noapic might help if the block error is caused by misrouting of HDD controllers
[05:14] <root_> EvilDucky-tm root_, it's the motherboard chipset I'm asking about -- for instance is it a laptop?.........desktop pc
[05:14] <nickrud> intelikey, no problem, I usually have several spreadsheets, maps I'm touching up in gimp, maybe a letter or two I'm composing. Plus a movie in the background :)
[05:14] <robotgeek> What's the difference between erase entire disk and "erase entire disk and use LVM"
[05:14] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: k - but you've tried ubuntu and X isn't working?
[05:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: for what? i may some time soon, is that related to our convo?
[05:15] <intelikey> metro !root
[05:15] <root_>  msi kt6 delta
[05:15] <QQ_ghost> root_: it's been too long since i compiled a kernel (was on slackware anyway)
[05:15] <Athena_Exclamati> yes, that is what happened
[05:15] <MrFarts> dabaR, sorry, wrong person. it's an IDE for gtk/gnome
[05:15] <tritium> robotgeek: the latter sets up LVM
[05:15] <MrFarts> jordo23, try anjuta
[05:15] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, you don't have to repeat -- if I don't understand or see an answer I can ask for clarification
[05:15] <bimberi> robotgeek: the former just creates an ext3 paritition
[05:15] <MrFarts> ok, someone tell me what makes "xfce" lighter than gnome ?
[05:15] <root_> k
[05:16] <MrFarts> and what does it lose in the process
[05:16] <Athena_Exclamati> the installation finished but when I tried to run it it wouldnt show the graphic environment
[05:16] <MrFarts> er "lighter"
[05:16] <intelikey> and spend 80% of your time reading/writing irc nickrud hehhe
[05:16] <dabaR> MrFarts: ya, I thought it was for someone else, that is ok, Ive been meaning to try anjuta for some time now, though.
[05:16] <robotgeek> tritium: does it make any difference on a fresh install?
[05:16] <nickrud> intelikey, that's a secret :)
[05:16] <poimen_> heh
[05:16] <poimen_> itwirks
[05:16] <poimen_> slow as h*****
[05:16] <poimen_> but isworks
[05:17] <dabaR> poimen_: ya, like we said, try something lighter than gnome.
[05:17] <shadow98> bitchx is not found
[05:17] <root_> xfce works fine
[05:17] <tritium> robotgeek: yes.  DO you intend to use LVM?
[05:17] <poimen_> I will take xfce for a ride
[05:17] <root_> but i dont like the file manager
[05:17] <poimen_> lets see
[05:17] <intelikey> shadow98 install it.
[05:17] <nickrud> MrFarts, usually it means it uses less memory, and expects you to do a lot more setup and know more details about your system. Lightwieght on the machine is heavyweight on your time (at first)
[05:17] <robotgeek> tritium: any links where i can read about what it means? or you can tell me
[05:17] <dabaR> root_: I don't like anything about it, but that is unrelated.
[05:18] <intelikey> !info bitchx
[05:18] <shadow98> says ots not foud
[05:18] <poimen_> doing a apt-get upgrade fisrt :D
[05:18] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[05:18] <tritium> robotgeek: probably the best info is on tldp.org
[05:18] <tritium> shadow98: it's in universe
[05:18] <Metro> bash is not recognizing a directory i created in nautilus...is this normal?
[05:18] <MrFarts> nickrud, i'm nor asking about "usually" -- i'm asking about xfce in particular
[05:18] <MrFarts> it seems to be completely gui driven so that would not appear to be it
[05:18] <intelikey> Metro pebcak
[05:18] <nickrud> MrFarts, well, that's also true about xfce.
[05:19] <QQ_ghost> i'm having modem problems...
[05:19] <shadow98> sudo apt-get install bitchx could find package
[05:19] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: k, you could check to see if your VideoCard (and any installation hints) is listed here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[05:19] <poimen_> apt-get install xfce
[05:19] <poimen_> Reading package lists... Done
[05:19] <poimen_> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:19] <poimen_> E: Couldn't find package xfce
[05:19] <nickrud> Metro, no, it's not
[05:19] <tritium> !tell shadow98 about repositories
[05:19] <tritium> poimen_: please don't paste
[05:19] <poimen_> sorry :P
[05:19] <nickrud> !tell poimen about repositories
[05:19] <dabaR> poimen_: enable universe.
[05:19] <tritium> poimen_: the package name is xfce4...learn to use apt-cache search <search term>
[05:19] <robotgeek> tritium: it looks good, i'm going to go with it
[05:19] <tritium> robotgeek: good luck with it
[05:19] <robotgeek> tritium: hmm, thanks
[05:20] <Metro> okay, so mi new to linux, how do i create directories in bash?
[05:20] <Athena_Exclamati> bimberi thanks a lot pal! much appreciated here by this brazilian friend :)
[05:20] <shadow98> tritium: i have http://us.archive.ubuntu.com in sources list do i need more
[05:20] <poimen_> INstalling xfce thankx guys
[05:20] <nickrud> Metro, mkdir <dir>
[05:20] <Athena_Exclamati> I will give it a try
[05:20] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: np, good luck :)
[05:20] <Metro> thank you
[05:20] <intelikey> Metro man mkdir
[05:20] <nickrud> !tell Metro about cli
[05:21] <intelikey> Metro being new to linux.    run this command     man man
[05:21] <Athena_Exclamati> is bimberi a italian name? at least it sounds like one, where are you from, pal?
[05:21] <tritium> shadow98: make sure you've updated your package list (sudo apt-get update, or use synaptic)
[05:22] <shadow98> tritium: i installed base system and i did an apt-get update
[05:22] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: no, I'm Australian - my nick is unrelated to my name :)
[05:22] <dabaR> Hah, I am a nazi all the way.
[05:22] <Metro> ty
[05:22] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  ran into a problem, here is the output and my conf file:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XVKInd42.html
[05:22] <hardbop200> hello all - can anyone tell me why I would need LVM on a desktop machine?
[05:22] <tritium> shadow98: did you enable the universe repo?
[05:22] <QQ_ghost> am i the only one here that has the intension of putting my modem to use? lol... i need help
[05:22] <hardbop200> I see the service on bootup, but don't know why I would need it...
[05:23] <poimen_> firefox is the lighter grafical net-explorer  ??
[05:23] <Athena_Exclamati> he he he, I knew it was a good friend from down under as you aussie say it, talking about australia there is a nice small distro called puppy linux from a countryfellow of yours!
[05:23] <shadow98> tritium: how do you do that
[05:24] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: you seem to be an expert on small distros - for good reason :)
[05:24] <nickrud> :)
[05:24] <keythumper> firefox is similar to Mozilla
[05:24] <Madpilot> intelikey: man intro is more readable than man man
[05:24] <Athena_Exclamati> got a pre historic machine he he he
[05:25] <bimberi> nickrud: did you tell her to rtfm? :P
[05:25] <poimen_> Ikwon I use firefoxbut I mean there is something that runs faster than him?
[05:25] <intelikey> hmmm Madpilot no such page here...
[05:25] <poimen_> or this hardware
[05:25] <poimen_> on*
[05:25] <tritium> shadow98: I had ubotu tell you how
[05:25] <nickrud> hm, I left home, lets see, 31 years ago :)
[05:25] <tritium> !tell shadow98 about repositories
[05:25] <dabaR> poimen_: try epiphany, maybe ut is better.
[05:26] <Madpilot> intelikey: "man intro" - not on your machine? I thought it was standard...
[05:26] <dabaR> shadow98: you can also try http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[05:26] <nickrud> bimberi, she saw man man :)
[05:26] <bimberi> lol
[05:26] <Athena_Exclamati> the problem with the australian distro is that its creator does not offer a brazilian keyboard layout configuration, and I consider myself a layman in setting up the hard way!
[05:26] <Madpilot> poimen: some people say Opera runs faster
[05:26] <intelikey> Madpilot standard what ?
[05:26] <Madpilot> !opera
[05:26] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:27] <nickrud> dabaR, well, I'm sure she found my playboys once, I'd swear they'd been moved
[05:27] <Totino> oo playboy
[05:27] <root_> mm
[05:27] <poimen_> ok
[05:27] <QQ_ghost> !tell QQ_ghost modem
[05:27] <poimen_> brb going to log in into xfce
[05:27] <Totino> ever find her play girls?
[05:28] <root_> openbox
[05:28] <dabaR> Madpilot: is opera free software?
[05:28] <root_> nop
[05:28] <Totino> yes it is
[05:28] <root_> isnt it
[05:28] <Totino> the released it free
[05:28] <Totino> *they
[05:28] <root_> freeware
[05:28] <dabaR> Totino: with the source code?
[05:28] <root_> but no opensource
[05:29] <Totino> no source code
[05:29] <Totino> but it is free
[05:29] <Totino> http://www.opera.com/
[05:29] <dabaR> Totino: no, I mean, free as in rms.
[05:29] <shadow98> !sources
[05:29] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:29] <nickrud> anyone have a good one liner describing dfsg?
[05:29] <poimen_> wow
[05:29] <Totino> who?
[05:29] <poimen_> xfce is very nice never used it
[05:30] <Madpilot> dabaR: free as in beer only - and I think we've had this discussion before ;)
[05:30] <SEJeff> nickrud: free software nazis?
[05:30] <dabaR> Madpilot: I have bad memory.
[05:30] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: i just today got device manager to recognize the darn thing... just looking for the config stuff...
[05:30] <nickrud> SEJeff, the ones that lead the charge, maybe.
[05:30] <Knowerrors> where is a good irc for asking about tv tuner cards and programs on linux?
[05:30] <nickrud> SEJeff, oh, doh :)
[05:30] <Athena_Exclamati> not going to squander your precious time australian pal, thanks a bunch! God bless you and dear ones. merry christmas and a happy new year in advance!
[05:31] <Totino> and happy holidays for the politically correct bitches
[05:31] <Athena_Exclamati> have a nice day mate!
[05:31] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: thanks, and to you too :)
[05:31] <dabaR> Athena_Exclamati: to you too. Merry f. christmas to you, and all the children in Iraq, and retailers.
[05:31] <dabaR> heh, no personal offense intended.
[05:31] <Athena_Exclamati> he he, you got the spirit,mate!
[05:31] <Athena_Exclamati> bye
[05:32] <nickrud> dabaR is actually a nice person, he just doesn't seem like it :)
[05:32] <dabaR> see ya
[05:32] <tritium> Take it easy, people, please
[05:32] <dabaR> I suck in fact.
[05:33] <tritium> Athena_Exclamati: take care.
[05:34] <kakei> hey,watch this out W: Failure trying to run: chroot /chroot dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.0ubuntu3_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.9_i386.deb
[05:34] <kakei>  that ocurre when i do  sudo debootstrap --arch i386 hoary /chroot/
[05:35] <QQ_ghost> when you finger a user, why does it say "no plan"? kind of insulting to the user...
[05:36] <Athena_Exclamati> [tritium] : you too mate!
[05:36] <dabaR> QQ_ghost: the user would have to have a .plan file in his home dir to show it. It is a public plan.
[05:36] <dabaR>  I had some trouble insatlling ubuntu on a 160GB drive today, with an empty partition which was unformatted for the first 150GB, and then I had /, and then /home, then swap. It failed to install grub. Does anyone have some insight into whether it is possible to have such large empty unformatted partitions on the beginning of the HD, and still install grub?
[05:36] <QQ_ghost> where would i find info on this .plan?
[05:37] <dabaR> well, basically, it gets displayed when you finger a user of the machine, and it is stored in the .plan file.
[05:37] <kspath> QQ_ghost: you can have an empty .plan if you do not want to share any info yet avoid the message
[05:38] <SEJeff> QQ_ghost: touch ~/.plan
[05:38] <QQ_ghost> dabaR: do you have "virus protection on" in your bios? it would keep grub from installing to the mbr...?
[05:38] <kspath> .plan is from a day long past when  everyone had a shell and there was no www http
[05:38] <shadow98> how in the hell am i supposed to edit sources.list if i have to use sudo
[05:38] <rzzi> hi dear
[05:38] <shadow98> it didn't ask me for password for root
[05:38] <tritium> shadow98: with sudo
[05:39] <QQ_ghost> kspath: SEJeff: thanx you two, but what about the contents?
[05:39] <tritium> !tell shadow98 about rootsudo
[05:39] <SEJeff> shadow98: Use your user password
[05:39] <dabaR> QQ_ghost: it actually worked after, when I chose to install to whole HD, and I used a breezy preview install CD instead of Hoary.
[05:39] <kspath> shadow98: it is your password
[05:39] <Madpilot> shadow98: "sudo gedit <whatever>"
[05:39] <tritium> shadow98: and calm down...
[05:39] <SEJeff> QQ_ghost: .plan is deprecated for the most part and so is finger really.
[05:39] <kspath> QQ_ghost: try  echo "" >> ~/.plan
[05:39] <SEJeff> kspath: touch ~/.plan is shorter :-P
[05:40] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:40] <kspath> :-P~
[05:40] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:40] <QQ_ghost> kspath: SEJeff: so it's just a text "motd" style of file?
[05:40] <SEJeff> QQ_ghost: yeah
[05:41] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:41] <kspath> QQ_ghost: old days almost everything was raw text  except wtmp
[05:41] <warreng> can anybody help me with an exim config?
[05:41] <QQ_ghost> kspath: SEJeff: i like giving the users the finger... lol
[05:41] <shadow98> i give up
[05:42] <dabaR> shadow98: you should have tried my page.
[05:42] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:42] <dabaR> It is nice, and gui.
[05:42] <dabaR> shadow98: and actually teaches you how to install packages on Ubuntu in a simple way.
[05:42] <nickrud> rzzi, you need to provide some more info; like what kind of modem you have, and, please, don't repeat so much.
[05:42] <dabaR> shadow98: would you like the link again?
[05:42] <kspath> rzzi: modem powered on?
[05:42] <tritium> shadow98: read the URL I had ubotu send you
[05:42] <shadow98> i just can't belive its this hard to edit a file
[05:42] <shadow98> i read it
[05:43] <shadow98> i tried sudo -s
[05:43] <dabaR> shadow98: not hard, just hard for you to learn.
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: is the software trying the right device/port?
[05:43] <rzzi> yes
[05:43] <rzzi> internel modem
[05:43] <mshade> shadow98, su bash
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: is the port set to the right speed
[05:43] <mshade> shadow98, sudo bash , rather
[05:43] <rzzi> everything is good
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: like 38400 8 n 1 and so on
[05:43] <mshade> then do as you please
[05:43] <warreng> can somebody help me with a exim config problem? i have it setup so it saves mail locally for a bunch of domains (via "domains = dsearch;/domains" and "data = /domains/$domain/mail/$local_part/" and so on).... but the problem is it accepts mail for ALL users at that domain and just creates maildir's... how would i make it check a passwd file for a domain to ENSURE that the user exists.. and if it doesn't, bounce the mail saying "inv
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: cable is ok?
[05:43] <mrkoje> shadow what are you trying to edit
[05:43] <shadow98> uknown id
[05:43] <tritium> mshade: no, sudo -s is fine (so is sudo -i)
[05:43] <rzzi> yes dear what i believe is ok
[05:44] <shadow98> mrkoje: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <rzzi> actually i m new on ubuntu.
[05:44] <silentj> hello, i'm attempting my maiden install of ubuntu (first linux user), I burned breezy badger, booted from it, finished the first part of the installation and then reboot to continue installing packages, everything was going fine then it switched from the progress bar screen to a screen filled with weird configuration values, i can't tell if it's still installing packages or if its waiting for input, is this normal?
[05:44] <tritium> shadow98: did you give your password when you tried sudo -s?
[05:44] <mrkoje> shadow98,  thats easy to edit
[05:44] <shadow98> sudo bash gives me uknown id: bash
[05:44] <kspath> rzzi: did you try powering off modem for 5-10 seconds and on again and trying again?
[05:44] <mrkoje> shadow98,  sudu vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <dabaR> silentj: wait for a while to find out, I think.
[05:44] <mrkoje> shadow98,  you will need to read up on how to use vim  / vi
[05:44] <rzzi> kspath modem is internel so when i shutdown pc its power off
[05:44] <callie> Im looking for a p2p client that isnt slow as hell, any suggestionns guys?
[05:44] <ala> silentj:  insert ur ubuntu CD for it to finish installing the OS
[05:45] <kspath> rzzi: not necessarily
[05:45] <shadow98> mrkoje: keeps asking for password
[05:45] <mrkoje> shadow98,  you need to use sudo
[05:45] <kspath> rzzi: many network cards keep power
[05:45] <shadow98> i did
[05:45] <mrkoje> shadow98,  then the password is your sudo password that you set up when you installed
[05:45] <kspath> rzzi: it is a crap winmodem?
[05:45] <rzzi> kspath: tell me onething how i would know that my modem is properly installed and configured
[05:45] <shadow98> mrkoje: it never asked me for one
[05:45] <silentj> ala, thanks alot, i've been waiting for about 15 minutes now with nothing happening, after i reinsert the ubuntu cd do I have to enter anything?
[05:45] <dabaR> shadow98: why are you trying to use command line, do you not have a GUI installed yet?
[05:46] <Madpilot> mrkoje & shadow98: if you've got GUI, do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - if no GUI, then "sudo nano..." - nano is far easier to use than vim...
[05:46] <shadow98> only password i typed in was for regurler user
[05:46] <kspath> rzzi: I do not know   internal modems are a no no unless from a VERY VERY VERY good company
[05:46] <shadow98> dabaR: no i installed base system
[05:46] <rzzi> its HSF 56 CONNEXANT MODEM
[05:46] <Madpilot> shadow98: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:46] <ala> silentj:  if i remember right you need to press enter....read the last two lines on the "weird screen"
[05:46] <shadow98> madpilot: been there doesn't help
[05:46] <rzzi> KSPATH: PLZ TELL ME THE RIGHT WAY TO CHECK MODEM INSTALLED AND CONFIGURED
[05:46] <kspath> rzzi: I do not know that one    I am out of touch with modems   havent used one for years almost
[05:46] <silentj> ok, brb
[05:47] <rzzi> how i m gonna know i have win modem
[05:47] <dabaR> shadow98: well, you can try nano. "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and then enter your own password.
[05:47] <kspath> rzzi: there is a term program for linux/unix  forget the name
[05:47] <nickrud> rzzi, that's a winmodem :)
[05:47] <shadow98> i guess sudo is using my regular user password
[05:47] <kakei> hey guys help me i deleted chroot with sudo rm -r /chroot and my system now wont work fine
[05:47] <kspath> rzzi: unfortunately most companies throw winmodems in
[05:47] <rzzi> kspath how can i use this modem in linux
[05:47] <tritium> shadow98: yes, if you had read the wiki page, or paid attention to us, you'd know that already
[05:48] <rzzi> kspath: how can i use this modem in unbuntu
[05:48] <kspath> rzzi: sorry I am not the best person to ask       ask again for anyone that connects with a  non-dsl  non-cable  non-isdn modem to help you
[05:48] <rzzi> ubuntu
[05:48] <shadow98> finnaly got bitchx
[05:48] <Madpilot> shadow98: that's exactly how sudo works...
[05:48] <kspath> rzzi: the issue is not ubuntu
[05:48] <silentj> the last two lines say: [429817.983000]  Code: 60 8b 53 etc etc etc then on line 2 [429817.983000]  and some more double digits
[05:48] <RiverRat> shadow98: The concept of sudo is that you don't NEED to hand out root's password.
[05:48] <shadow98> now lynx
[05:49] <kspath> rzzi: there is a set of skills for dealing with internal modems   especially  win modems
[05:49] <ala> when u inserted ur cd and pressed enter, what happened?
[05:49] <silentj> i didn't try that yet, i'll do that right now
[05:49] <kspath> rzzi: it isnt too hard
[05:49] <shadow98> just a little different and one more command i have to type
[05:49] <tritium> shadow98: if you use sudo -s, you don't have to repeatedly precede commands with "sudo"
[05:50] <kspath> rzzi: you need a 56K modem user to help you    many here are likely on dsl,cable,isdn, or ethernet
[05:50] <rzzi> ok
[05:50] <rzzi> allright my man.
[05:50] <kakei> hey guys help me i deleted chroot with sudo rm -r /chroot and my system now wont work fine
[05:50] <nickrud> rzzi, you might want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=forum%2Fhardware%2FConexant#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef
[05:50] <nickrud> rzzi, your mileage may vary
[05:50] <rzzi> appreciated
[05:51] <kspath> rzzi: I will research a bit for you    note there is a REALLY good modem site on the net a former co-worker of mine runs  I will find the URL for you
[05:51] <silentj> ok, i reinserted the cd and pressed enter and nothing happened
[05:51] <rzzi> appreciated
[05:51] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[05:51] <rzzi> u r the man
[05:51] <RiverRat> tritium: That defeats the logging of each command that sudo executes though.
[05:51] <ala> so no where on the screen does it ask you to insert the ubuntu cd to continue?
[05:51] <tritium> RiverRat: I didn't say I recommended it
[05:52] <dabaR> silentj: ya, that is not how it works abnyhow, I dont know where you got that from, ala.
[05:52] <kspath> www.modemhelp.net
[05:52] <dabaR> silentj: just reboot, if it is stuck, not many other options left.
[05:52] <RiverRat> tritium: I noticed that your users only read about every 4th word in here too.
[05:52] <silentj> No, there's no cursor anywhere waiting for input, the last thing i saq appear on the screen was "preparing dc" and then it seemed to freeze
[05:52] <l3oddah> hi, can anyone help with gnoppix?
[05:53] <kspath> rzzi: www.modemhelp.net is not linux or ubuntu specific but it has tons of info on modems
[05:53] <d03boy> test
[05:53] <rzzi> thanx
[05:53] <rzzi> u r the man
[05:53] <ala> hhmmm...thats beyond me...sorry
[05:53] <Madpilot> nickrud & rzzi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto is exactly the same URL, but much easier ;)
[05:53] <kspath> rzzi: if you combine that with the ubuntu and other help pages you are covered
[05:53] <tritium> RiverRat: usually that's not the case, actually.  We have a great community.
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> I have to video cards in my pc, both Nvidia, and I have to monitors connected but one of them is not showing anything
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> any ideas?
[05:53] <l3oddah> i'm trying to install to hard disk and i can't seem to find any installer for it, does anyone know?
[05:53] <dabaR> l3oddah: do they have a channel on freenode?
[05:53] <d03boy> if you know how to find the Estimate value x_k and Expected y_k value for a linear regression pm me
[05:54] <nickrud> Madpilot, it's the table of contents link, but moinmoin is ugly :)
[05:54] <tritium> d03boy: that's highly offtopic here.  Please do your own homework
[05:54] <silentj> ok, this is the second time this happened, last time i hit ctrl+alt+del from this weird screen and it rebooted, on reboot it said that some of the packages weren't installed properly and that i need to do them manually, then it loaded a console window with a login prompt
[05:54] <rzzi> Madpilot: thanx dear
[05:54] <chefnate> can someone tell me why i cant type numbers into the console?
[05:54] <d03boy> tritium, sorry, I didnt think /amsg would send to all srevers...
[05:54] <RiverRat> tritium: Yeah, you have a pretty good reputation for that.  Gentoo's is pretty good too but we have the occasional person that doesn't listen.  How is your spam bot problem?  I think lilo's latest patch shut them down.  #gentoo has been bot free lately.
[05:54] <kspath> glad about FAQs and guides and web sites and wikis    did not want to try to explain AT commands
[05:55] <tritium> RiverRat: it varies.  lilo is great at taking care of us too
[05:56] <RiverRat> We have been completely clean for the last few days, thanks to that patch.  Anyway I'm just exploring channels with my +u.  :)
[05:56] <tritium> you're always welcome here, RiverRat
[05:56] <RiverRat> thanks.  The +u is temporary though as I usually can't join 40+ channels.
[05:57] <Inf3ctedFx> HOw can I make two monitors working on ubuntu with 2 video cards?? do I have to edit something on the Xconfig?
[05:57] <QQ_ghost> does anyone know how to test a modem without dialing?
[05:57] <chefnate> i just installed ubuntu for the first time...extreme noob here
[05:57] <nickrud> I've always had a hardware modem until recently, I do hate winmodems
[05:57] <mshade> QQ_ghost, see if it responds to the init string
[05:57] <dabaR> silentj: log in, then, and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:58] <dabaR> chefnate: just how we like em.
[05:58] <chefnate> how do i type numbers into the console? they dont show up
[05:58] <silentj> thanks alot dabaR, I'll try that
[05:58] <Inf3ctedFx> did u check ur NumLock key chefnate ?
[05:58] <tritium> chefnate: do you need to hit numlock?
[05:58] <QQ_ghost> mshade: like "echo ATZ>> /dev/modem"?
[05:58] <dabaR> chefnate: they should just show up. Give us more specific info, descriptive.
[05:58] <mshade> QQ_ghost, basically
[05:58] <chefnate> ya
[05:58] <chefnate> checked numlock
[05:59] <Inf3ctedFx> if u type numbers it wont show up?
[05:59] <RiverRat> Inf3ctedFx: xinerama?
[05:59] <khermans> I am watching King Kong, it kinda sucks huh?
[05:59] <Madpilot> chefnate: do the regular number keys - not the numpad - work in terminal?
[05:59] <dabaR> khermans: did you expect a good hollywood movie?
[05:59] <khermans> It's should be called like Jurassic Park 5
[05:59] <mrkoje> khermans,  you like it or not?
[05:59] <chefnate> trying to type my password and i cant  type numbers...with numlock on or off
[05:59] <mrkoje> khermans, `i take that as a no
[05:59] <khermans> dabaR, i never expect anything good -- im waiting for Syriana
[06:00] <khermans> thats supposed to be great
[06:00] <khermans> i love ubuntu
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> chefnate, when u type ur pass u never see it
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> thats normal
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> :)
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> are u trying to use sudo?
[06:01] <chefnate> no astrisks show up either
[06:01] <tritium> khermans: you are watching it now?  Where are you?
[06:01] <Inf3ctedFx> nope chefnate
[06:01] <dabaR> khermans: here are some of my favorites: Amelie, Motorcycle diaries, moulin rouge, save the green planet(hard to find). Well, I could go on with the hard to finds, but that is not much use, the ones I told you you can puick up in a vid store.
[06:01] <chefnate> hey, thanks
[06:01] <Inf3ctedFx> what r u trying to do chefnate ?
[06:01] <chefnate> prob solved
[06:02] <RiverRat> Inf3ctedFx: xinerama should do the 2 monitor thing.
[06:02] <chefnate> trying to instal vlc
[06:02] <kspath> rzzi: minicom is the application I was trying to remember for testing your modem with  problem is you would have to have some knowledge but maybe note it for future
[06:02] <QQ_ghost> mshade: ~$ sudo echo ATZ >> /dev/ttyS5
[06:02] <Inf3ctedFx> xinerama? RiverRat whats that?
[06:02] <chefnate> i guess i'm supposed to type in sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:02] <QQ_ghost> mshade: like that?
[06:02] <dewdude> i can't seem to get my audigy2 working..or at least get any kind of sound out of it
[06:02] <RiverRat> xinerama - Add support for the xinerama X11 extension, which allows you to stretch your display across multiple monitors
[06:03] <chefnate> it says it couldnt find package
[06:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok  RiverRat do u know any web whti more info so I can make this god dam thing work? lol
[06:03] <kspath> xinerama works quite well  I had it working with 3 monitors set to 1600x1200 32bit  it was sweet
[06:03] <Badm4n> i have question... can i use apt-get install irsii ? if yes ...what is the irsii's packaged name ?
[06:04] <Kyral> Badm4n: irssi
[06:04] <mobilhimers> apt-cache search irssi
[06:04] <dabaR> Badm4n: it comes with ubuntu normally.
[06:04] <Kyral> err
[06:04] <Inf3ctedFx> Badm4n, look for it on Synaptic
[06:04] <Badm4n> i c
[06:04] <RiverRat> Inf3ctedFx: I only have 1 monitor so I've never done it.  Perhaps there is a #ubuntu-desktop channel or something like that.  If not then try #<desktop> or Google.
[06:04] <Kyral> irssi-text
[06:04] <chefnate> can someone help me instal vlc?
[06:04] <mobilhimers> i think it was called something slightly different
[06:04] <mobilhimers> yea
[06:04] <mobilhimers> that was it
[06:04] <bimberi> chefnate: it's in the universe repository - which you need to add - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:04] <chefnate> oh...thx
[06:05] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[06:05] <Inf3ctedFx> thx RiverRat
[06:05] <RiverRat> np
[06:05] <GTroy> hello
[06:05] <bimberi> chefnate: yw :)
[06:05] <GTroy> I'm looking to play a .bin file...can anyone help?
[06:05] <dabaR> chefnate: also you can visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html to see how to install programs in Ubuntu.
[06:05] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: use google to search for how tos on it   that is how I got hints then I finally got it working with a little trial and error  just be patient  you can do it
[06:06] <GTroy> nalioth: are you busy?
[06:06] <Inf3ctedFx> well kspath  I'm always do thatr but to b honest with u... I've been deal with this since this morning.. and Im kidda tired lol
[06:06] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: your window manager has to support it         KDE and Gnome and Openbox all support it I think
[06:06] <mobilhimers> dual-monitor is sort of hard to set up, took me a while to get the hang of it
[06:07] <Inf3ctedFx> well I use Gnome
[06:07] <silentj> I just rebooted and ran sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen or what should i do when its done
[06:07] <Inf3ctedFx> so dual monitor is kind of hard?
[06:07] <sethk> mobilhimers, not exactly hard to set up, more hard to find the information.  Once you know how, it is not that difficult.
[06:07] <mobilhimers> yea
[06:07] <mobilhimers> so what kind of dual monitor do you have
[06:07] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: seems hard until you get it working than you laugh later how easy it was
[06:07] <mobilhimers> a card with 2 heads?
[06:07] <mobilhimers> 2 cards?
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahahaha oks
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> I like that
[06:08] <Emmerac> I am running Ubuntu for the first time and I could not ask for a better OS!
[06:08] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: once you get the configuration set up   make a backup of that configuration so you will not cry later
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> I have 2 video cards
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> It happend to me b4 lol
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> thx 4 the advice
[06:08] <n0dl> how do i open rar files?
[06:08] <kspath> I have 3 nvidia TNT2 and 3 viewsonic 19inch monitors
[06:08] <GTroy> n0dl: I use rar
[06:09] <n0dl> i uncommented all the lines in my sources.list
[06:09] <GTroy> sudo apt-get rar
[06:09] <n0dl> i tried that
[06:09] <n0dl> said it cant find file
[06:09] <GTroy> you have to enable your repos
[06:09] <dabaR> silentj: sudo aptitude update, tell us whether there are any errors in that.
[06:09] <GTroy> !repositories
[06:09] <ubotu> I heard repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> kspath
[06:09] <nicktastic> Hi, I'm trying to install the binary-only nvidia driver on breezy. I am using linux-image-2.6.12-10-686, which includes rivafb. Do I need to rebuild the kernel by hand, excluding rivafb, for the nvidia driver to work?
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> well I just start wiht 2 monitors lol
[06:09] <n0dl> GTroy: i did
[06:09] <silentj> ok, thanks so much for your help I really appreciate it, brb
[06:09] <dewdude> someone..please..some heo
[06:09] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: it works best if all cards of from same manufacturer but plenty get it working with 1 ATI and 1 Nvidia or other combo
[06:10] <dewdude> l
[06:10] <dewdude> errr
[06:10] <dewdude> some help with an audigy 2
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> well both r nvidia
[06:10] <GTroy> n0dl: I can't think of any other reason....you might keep asking though
[06:10] <nicktastic> Otherwise, is there a package for the nvidia binary-only driver on breezy?
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> but one is Gfoce4 4000 and the other one is Gforce2 400
[06:10] <mobilhimers> infectedfx: you want to see what a xorg looks like for a 2 montior set up, and just paste in the values for your specific setup into it?
[06:10] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: that should work great
[06:10] <silentj> sudo aptitude update completed succesfully
[06:11] <nalioth> GTroy: not at all
[06:11] <dabaR> silentj: ya, be back, cause this is just the first step. Excellent. Now, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade.
[06:11] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: some see a increase of memory used by X
[06:11] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: some see a performance drop
[06:11] <GTroy> nalioth: can't figure out how to play a .bin video file
[06:12] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: but remember it is spanning across to displays
[06:12] <dabaR> nicktastic: yes, there is such a driver at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or so.
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> ok so honestly kspath  do u recomend it? or not
[06:12] <nalioth> GTroy: usually they come with a .cue and you burn it to disk
[06:12] <nalioth> GTroy: like a vcd image
[06:12] <eruin> "you", "are"
[06:13] <nicktastic> dabaR: Thanks
[06:13] <GTroy> nalioth: ok, I appreciate the help!
[06:13] <dabaR> nicktastic: $20
[06:13] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: I can be great for workstation use     you can see a full page of something while you are at the same time doing 2-3 other things without having to go back and forth
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> I have it in winfuck but not in linux
[06:14] <silentj> ok, i ran sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and got, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to fix the problem
[06:14] <nicktastic> dabaR: Maybe next time ;)
[06:14] <dabaR> OK, had to try.
[06:14] <nicktastic> Thanks again!
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> hey kspath  can u check if my ftp is working?? i'm trying to access but on firefox seem to do not work
[06:14] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: multi-head in linux seemed slower than multi-head in windblowz to me
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> is ftp.telariusonline.com
[06:14] <RedRose> has anyone here been able to get apache2 to work?
[06:15] <nalioth> slide: so do as it asks
[06:15] <sethk> RedRose, sure
[06:15] <dabaR> RedRose: yes. I have. It is hard, eh?
[06:15] <nalioth> silentj: so do as it asks
[06:15] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: you can test with wget or curl or fetch or lynx or links
[06:15] <dabaR> RedRose: I mean, not hard, just unintuitive.
[06:15] <silentj> ok, i already ran that command before, i'll try it again
[06:15] <RedRose> dabaR:For Me It Is...
[06:15] <RedRose> dabaR:i do apt-get install apache2, it installs, and then nothing... i have apache installed, does that mess it up?
[06:16] <dabaR> RedRose: stop apache: "sudo invoke-rc.d apache stop" then start apache2:"sudo apache2ctl start"
[06:16] <dabaR> RedRose: and it wil point to /var/www
[06:17] <eruin> what's wrong with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ?
[06:17] <eruin> ;)
[06:17] <seth_k|lappy> eruin++
[06:17] <eFoX> hi ya folks
[06:17] <RedRose> wait, what is apache2ctl ... can't i just do /etc/init.d/apache stop && apache2 start?
[06:17] <silentj> '../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed'
[06:17] <eFoX> i have a few questions, because i am a complete n00b
[06:18] <eFoX> where do i go to type in commands ?
[06:18] <eFoX> mk, mkdir, ls etc..
[06:18] <mobilhimers> accessories -> terminal
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> the package to Midnight Commander on ubuntu is "mc"??
[06:18] <RedRose> dabaR:why doesn't /etc/init.d/apache2 start work?
[06:18] <dabaR> RedRose: no, you can not. I don't get why it is different, but that is what needs to be done. I do not have an answer to that, I was asking the same thing when I installed.
[06:19] <RedRose> k, ty for the help
[06:19] <eFoX> mobilhimers, : excellent, thank you
[06:19] <nicktastic> dabaR: Is it common for performance to decrease significantly after switching to the binary-only driver? ;)
[06:19] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: what installing program do you use?
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> apt-get
[06:19] <dabaR> nicktastic: the only driver is the binary only, afaik.
[06:19] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: apt-cache search mc
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me try
[06:20] <eFoX> I downloaded a theme, and yet when I try and move it into the appropriate theme folder, it says i do not have permission...is there something i can do about that ?
[06:20] <eruin> dabaR, no, you've got both nv and nvidia
[06:20] <nicktastic> dabaR: x.org has a foss driver, used by default, afaik (nv = free, nvidia = non-free)
[06:20] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: apt-cache search mc|grep ^mc
[06:20] <nicktastic> iirc
[06:20] <dabaR> really, hm...thanks for letting me know.
[06:20] <eruin> eFoX, drop it in /home/brad/.themes
[06:21] <nicktastic> dabaR: sarcasm?
[06:21] <dabaR> no, thanks.
[06:21] <nicktastic> dabaR: Feel free to tell me if I'm incorrect
[06:21] <kestas> is there any way to change the default app for opening images from eog to gthumb?
[06:21] <dabaR> I always feel free, cause I share my software (free software song referrence).
[06:22] <nicktastic> ...or be a prick about it, your choice of course
[06:22] <silentj> after running sudo dpkg --configure -a, i got '../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed'
[06:22] <eFoX> eruin, I dont have /themes under the username
[06:22] <eFoX> after the user name it goes to desktop, which is where my folder is
[06:23] <dabaR> I really did not know, and now I found out, so I thanked you guys.
[06:23] <eruin> eFoX, _._themes
[06:23] <kestas> if I was in Windows I'd right click, go to 'Run with other application' and select 'Open with this application as default'
[06:23] <eruin> eFoX, and if you dont have that folder, create it ;)
[06:23] <kestas> but in ubuntu there doesnt seem to be a way to do it
[06:23] <kestas> which is a shame because eog is terrible but gthumb is pretty good
[06:24] <mobilhimers> it doesnt make sense that he doesnt have permission to add a theme
[06:24] <mobilhimers> its in your home dir, you should be able to do everything, right?
[06:24] <eruin> still haven't found the reasoning for having both EOG and gthumb
[06:24] <eruin> I think he's trying to add it to /usr/share/themes
[06:24] <Corrupter> does the python interpreter come with Ubuntu?
[06:24] <chefnate> u ppl rock!!
[06:24] <chefnate> thx
[06:25] <kestas> I'd have thought there'd be a way to change the default app for a certain file type, being open source you need to be able to choose which app to use right?
[06:26] <kestas> mix and match is supposed to be what its all about Id think
[06:26] <QQ_ghost> anyone know about the intel AMR modems?
[06:26] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know why I can't go any higher than 60hz for my refresh rate?
[06:26] <Madpilot> kestas: you can - Nautilus can change file type <--> app matches
[06:26] <Corrupter> does the python interpreter come with Ubuntu?
[06:27] <kestas> Madpilot, where? :o I couldnt find an option anywhere
[06:27] <kestas> Corrupter, yes
[06:27] <QQ_ghost> linmodems.org has a link to http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/platform/ac97/papers.htm but it's broken...
[06:27] <Corrupter> kestas: where is it?
[06:27] <dabaR> kestas: no way you did not get an answer yet. You can right click on the file, select properties, then go to the open with tab, and go from there.
[06:27] <kestas> type python at the terminal
[06:27] <Madpilot> kestas: highlight a file of the type you want to change the assignment of - then go Edit-Properties - one of the tabs is Open With
[06:27] <kestas> dabaR, yes but what about associating a filetype with a certain app?
[06:28] <dabaR> kestas: that does it.
[06:28] <dabaR> kestas: apologize now.
[06:28] <kestas> Madpilot, thanks :)
[06:28] <dabaR> heh, no joking. that does what you want.
[06:28] <kestas> dabaR, that suggestion isn't permeanent though
[06:28] <dabaR> kestas: is too.
[06:29] <kestas> dabaR, nope thats what Ive been doing for months, going to Open with every time I want to open an image in gthumb
[06:29] <dabaR> kestas: right click>properties>open with>select.
[06:29] <dabaR> kestas: I said that the first time too.
[06:29] <chalcedony> dabaR: my husband's ubuntu box has problems. We were using it, and went out for a while, when we came back some things seemed to have locked up. Being windows users, we tried rebooting. Now firefox can't see the net. I'm not sure what else is not going.
[06:30] <dabaR> chalcedony: are you a female, or a male with a husband?
[06:30] <dabaR> chalcedony: jj, dont haveg to answer.
[06:30] <chalcedony> dabaR: i'm a mother.
[06:31] <dabaR> chalcedony: well, we can only fix what is not working, you can not get online with firefox?
[06:31] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes firefox says it can't connect to the www.
[06:31] <eFoX> eruin, ok its in there, but when i check my themes listing, its not listed there
[06:31] <eFoX> any ideas ?
[06:31] <sasquatc4> this is troubling, just found out my direct rendering some how got disabled, anyone know how to get it going again, im still loading the dri module in my xorg.conf too
[06:31] <kestas> chalcedony, could you open a terminal, Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[06:32] <kestas> chalcedony, and type ping www.google.com, and tell us if it pings it sucessfully
[06:32] <chalcedony> kestas: yes i have a terminal open and ran mtr. it is seeing pings.
[06:32] <mobilhimers> eFoX: what sort of theme are you talking about? just dragging it into the proper window in the themes dialog doesnt work?
[06:32] <eruin> eFoX, have you tried installing it via gnome-theme-manager ?
[06:32] <chalcedony> ping: unknown host.
[06:32] <kestas> chalcedony, so when you open firefox and try to access a website what happens?
[06:32] <dabaR> chalcedony: what is mtr?
[06:33] <chalcedony> mtr is a trace program
[06:34] <eFoX> mobilhimers, ive tried dragging it into the proper window and that didnt work
[06:34] <chalcedony> kestas: it says it can't find the www.
[06:34] <dabaR> chalcedony: to restart the GUI of Ubuntu, the windowing part, hit alt+ctrl+backspace next time, without restarting the computer itself. Have you deleted temp files in Firefox?
[06:34] <leigh> G'day Ubuntu guys, I'm a newby , and I just installed Ubuntu, Everything's fine exepct that I cant' access the floppy. Can anyone help?
[06:34] <chalcedony> i have no idea how to delete temp files in firefox.
[06:34] <kestas> chalcedony, do you use a proxy? and with mtr did you manage to access a place which is definately on the internet?
[06:34] <eFoX> eruin, ive tried using the manager and it opens up the folder and then when i click anyone of them it says invalid format. what should the format be ? maybe im choosing the wrong one
[06:35] <chalcedony> kestas: no we are on a lan. it came back with 127.0.0.1
[06:35] <dabaR> chalcedony: that IP is your computer.
[06:35] <kestas> chalcedony, k well try 'ping www.google.com' at the terminal
[06:35] <dabaR> eFoX: are you trying to install some kind of theme for gnome?
[06:35] <karlan> anybody know how i can get the right drivers for my graphic card? Now i am using default, and i have a Geforce 3
[06:35] <chalcedony> kestas: ok
[06:36] <sasquatc4> so yea, anyone any ideas on dri?
[06:36] <chalcedony> kestas: ping www.google.com : unknown host www.google.com
[06:36] <mobilhimers> how did you figure out your DRI stopped working
[06:36] <dabaR> karlan: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:36] <mobilhimers> glxinfo says no direct rendering?
[06:37] <sasquatc4> glxinfo reports that im not using direct rendering, and glxgears barely moves
[06:37] <mobilhimers> what kind of video card you got?
[06:37] <karlan> dabaR, thx :-)
[06:37] <Naut_> can anyone recommend a mp3/media player? amrok w/ gstreamer is giving me a hard time about decoding mp3s
[06:37] <sasquatc4> this is a laptop, its an ati 350
[06:37] <sasquatc4> somethin like that
[06:37] <sasquatc4> i had it workin earlier, not sure what happened
[06:37] <sasquatc4> igp 340m
[06:38] <karlan> i have one more question, how do i get my Logitech mx510 forward and back button to work in my internetbrowser?
[06:38] <kestas> chalcedony, okay do you know if you use a proxy server or NAT?
[06:38] <dabaR> Naut_: totem, xmms, beep-media-player...
[06:38] <mobilhimers> did you update any X stuff lately?
[06:38] <sasquatc4> not a clue, prolly at some point
[06:38] <mobilhimers> you didnt have to touch X before at all to get this to work originally?
[06:38] <dabaR> chalcedony: "/j #flood" as your message to our channel, that will join you to #flood. How do you connect to the Internet? DSL, cable, dial up, router...
[06:38] <chalcedony> kestas: our son set up and maintains the lan. you will need to tell me what commands to type.
[06:38] <kestas> chalcedony, and how are you accessing the net at the moment?
[06:39] <karlan> Naut_, i can recommend Beep-media player. just like winamp btw :) really nice
[06:39] <whocares> ale->
[06:39] <Naut_> thanks
[06:39] <Naut_> has anyone else had problems getting mp3 playback with the gstreamer engine?
[06:39] <chalcedony> we have comcast cable through a linux firwall and hubs etc.
[06:39] <Naut_> im curious
[06:39] <whocares> Anyone using vmware player?
[06:39] <mobilhimers> sasquatc4: if you have DCC or some way of sending files, itd be nice if i could take a look at your xorg.conf
[06:40] <mobilhimers> lspci and lsmod would help alot too
[06:40] <nickrud> !mp3
[06:40] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:40] <sasquatc4> k, ummm, im rdp'd to another box right now, hold on a sec
[06:40] <Madpilot> Naut_: I switched to using totem-xine instead of -gstreamer - gstreamer here wouldn't play anything...
[06:41] <dabaR> Naut_: visit that page shown above. It shows how to install mp3 playback capability.
[06:41] <kestas> chalcedony, and how are you accessing the net at the moment?
[06:41] <Naut_> thx all
[06:42] <eFoX> dabaR, yes I am. This is my first time playing with this thing and so i want to be able to get used to it so im doing anything and everything...
[06:43] <dabaR> eFoX: you can try visiting the faq section of art.gnome.org, that is what I did when I installed my first theme, the faqs are nice there.
[06:43] <kestas> cant you drag and drop into the themes list?
[06:43] <kestas> worked for me
[06:44] <eFoX> dabaR, sweeet, thanks
[06:46] <daved> how can i modify the theme of gtk1 apps?
[06:46] <sasquatc4> mobilhimers: well i tried, dunno if you were still there to get it or if its cause of my router
[06:46] <sasquatc4> i can always pm you important sections
[06:47] <ELpH950> anyone using ubuntu for midi sequencing?
[06:47] <mobilhimers> thatll work
[06:49] <karlan> dabaR_, are you there?
[06:50] <dabaR> ya, do I know you or do I again look like I know answers?
[06:50] <harris> I was wondering if anyone could help me out, the cd drive on my laptop want open when I press the button using Ubuntu
[06:50] <harris> but it opens fine if i boot in xp
[06:50] <karlan> anyone there who can help me with my graphics driver? i followed the tutorial exactly located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:50] <dabaR> harris: and did you unmount the disk first?
[06:51] <ELpH950> imm... what kind of video card?
[06:51] <harris> what do you mean dabaR??
[06:52] <harris> I assume the disk is mounted, i have a duel boot setup and I haven't touched the partition since I orgrinally set it up
[06:52] <Madpilot> harris: if the CD icon still shows up in Nautilus, right-click on it and select Eject
[06:52] <dabaR> chalcedony: go back to #ubuntu for a sec, please.
[06:52] <dabaR> heh
[06:52] <dabaR> chalcedony: and when you "ping 66.94.234.13"
[06:53] <chalcedony> back
[06:53] <leigh> How the hell do yo9u use this xchat - ?
[06:53] <dabaR> chalcedony: packets received, or lost, basically is what I want to know.
[06:54] <harris> madpilot what is nautilus?
[06:54] <chalcedony>  66.94.234.13 ping statistics : 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss time 6005ms
[06:54] <dabaR> chalcedony: well, and "ping yahoo.com"
[06:55] <harris> The cd drive works fine in ubuntu, the only thing is I can open the thing unless i boot into xp
[06:55] <harris> can't*
[06:55] <chalcedony> ping: unknown host yahoo.com
[06:55] <silentj> hey guys, i just rebooted and entered 'sudo dpkg --configure -a, then sudo aptitude update, and then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and everything completed successfully this time, what should i do next to complete the installation?
[06:55] <dissolutions> eject in ubuntu :P
[06:55] <chalcedony> leigh: what part of xchat are you having trouble with?
[06:55] <dabaR> chalcedony: your DNS name resolution is not working.
[06:55] <dissolutions> * harris: eject in ubuntu :P
[06:55] <chalcedony> ahhhhhhh
[06:55] <chalcedony> so how do we fix that?
[06:55] <harris> lol
[06:55] <harris> i wish i could
[06:56] <dissolutions> harris: or unmount
[06:56] <chalcedony> harris: if you do that wrong your computer may never work again. .. not to mention..
[06:56] <dabaR> silentj: excellent, glad to hear that. now, the installation is done. GOod work. when you run "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start", what happens?
[06:56] <ZaPaper> what is the difference between gnome and gtk+? i'm trying to install VLC player and i have those two options
[06:56] <harris> unmount each time i want to open my cd drive?
[06:57] <harris> is there a way to config your hardware?
[06:57] <dissolutions> sudo umount /media/cdrom0/ -l :P
[06:58] <dissolutions> thats all unmounting is :P
[06:58] <harris> i just figured it out... i typed the word 'eject' in the terminal
[06:58] <harris> lol
[06:58] <dabaR> chalcedony: well, normally, it should work. there are a few things we will try. type "echo 192.168.3.1 >> /etc/resolv.conf" to start off. then again try pinging yahoo.
[06:58] <dissolutions> I happen to remember saying eject :P
[06:58] <harris> the fucker pop'd right open
[06:58] <dissolutions> :D
[06:58] <dissolutions> laptop?
[06:58] <harris> yup
[06:59] <ELpH950> harris, :yuou stoned?
[06:59] <dissolutions> which kind?  I'm using a TOshiba 170 at the moment, without too many difficulties.
[06:59] <harris> lol
[06:59] <dissolutions> *A70
[06:59] <ELpH950> i figure things out better when i am lol
[06:59] <silentj> ok, now i get 'invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript /etc/init.d/gdm not found'
[06:59] <harris> ..... maybe
[06:59] <daved> how can i modify the theme of gtk1 apps?
[06:59] <ELpH950> good question daved
[06:59] <Adross> is there anyway to set up a timedelay for taking a screenshot?
[07:00] <chalcedony> daba ok
[07:00] <daved> ELpH950, is that really the answer?
[07:00] <dabaR> silentj: then "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:00] <phosphoricx> hey guys, how can I change from amd64 ubuntu to 32-bit?
[07:00] <silentj> sweet, thanks! brb
[07:01] <dabaR> Adross: yes. install imagemagick for a start.
[07:01] <dabaR> phosphoricx: there is something called chroot, I think. google on that if noone else knows more.
[07:01] <chalcedony> dabaR: permission denied: /etc/resolv.conf
[07:01] <phosphoricx> well I've set that up already, but I want to switch my system to 32bit
[07:02] <dabaR> oh, oh, is this user a sudo user?
[07:02] <harris> thanks for the help guys... peace
[07:02] <chalcedony> dabaR: what's that?
[07:02] <dabaR> chalcedony: when you type "sudo ls" and then enter your password when asked, does it list files?
[07:02] <dabaR> phosphoricx: I think you have to reinstall.
[07:02] <dabaR> phosphoricx: however, I am the least knowledgeable person on that.
[07:03] <aaronm67> hello, i'm having a syntax error when I run smeg, can anyone help?
[07:03] <Adross> dabaR: already installed] 
[07:03] <chalcedony> dabaR sudo is: command not found
[07:03] <dabaR> chalcedony: LS in lower case.
[07:04] <chalcedony> Desktop My Downloads
[07:04] <chalcedony> er dabaR:  Desktop My Downloads
[07:05] <chalcedony> dabaR: 1. his prompt looks funny to me: vir% not $ is this right?
[07:05] <chalcedony> i tried cd
[07:05] <chalcedony> and it did not go anywhere else
[07:06] <dabaR> chalcedony: then, do this now: "echo 192.168.3.1|sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"
[07:06] <chalcedony> ok
[07:06] <chalcedony> ty
[07:06] <owner989> anyone here use fluxbox under ubuntu
[07:07] <karlan> dabaR, i tested with the legacy drivers, and my xserver died :) had to use the backup. Can you help me with getting the newer one to work?
[07:07] <aaronm67> can anyone here help me? i'm having a syntax error when I try to run smeg menu editor
[07:07] <dabaR> Adross: and now, "sleep X; import --root blah.png" for a png screenshot, where X is the number of seconds of delay. sleep is the delay command in GNU.
[07:08] <chalcedony> dabaR: echo 192.168.3.1
[07:08] <chalcedony> vir%
[07:08] <Madpilot> what's the CLI command to unpack a tar.gz file?
[07:08] <chalcedony> Lukian: do i know you?
[07:08] <mrkoje> Madpilot,   tar -xvzf
[07:08] <Madpilot> mrkoje: thnx
[07:08] <dabaR> chalcedony: that is the response you got? that is proper. try pinging now, again yahoo, please.
[07:09] <chalcedony> dabaR: ty ok
[07:09] <dabaR> karlan: I am not savvy with the drivers for cards like that, never yet had to install one.
[07:09] <chalcedony> dabaR: ping: unknown host www.google.com
[07:09] <dabaR> karlan: study the wiki page again, is best I can do.
[07:09] <karlan> dabaR, okay, thx
[07:10] <chalcedony> i very definitely appreciate your help, dabaR
[07:10] <dabaR> chalcedony: ok, that did not work. just to confirm, when you "cat /etc/resolv.conf" do you get 192.168.3.1 back?
[07:10] <iflipti> does anyone know how to install breezy badger for a low memory system *without* using a network?
[07:10] <dabaR> I do it for the money, anyhow.
[07:11] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes
[07:11] <iflipti> could you tell me how?
[07:11] <chalcedony> dabaR: if people payed for computer help on irc, we would all get rich .. and be able to afford our servers :)
[07:11] <dabaR> iflipti: try the server install, then install something lightweight. See, I do not think there is a connection between the memory, and the network install.
[07:12] <burepe> I loaded a driver with this command sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5. I think the 3 and 5 are wrong. If I want to change them do I have to unload the driver and then do the command again with different numbers or can I just do the command again with different numbers?
[07:12] <iflipti> chalecedony: ok I have installed server
[07:13] <dabaR> iflipti: that fast?
[07:13] <Badm4n> ????
[07:13] <iflipti> dabaR: no, already finished :)
[07:13] <Badm4n> so fast
[07:13] <chalcedony> ah
[07:13] <dabaR> chalcedony: no, we would not get rich. It was a joke, let's get back on track. See, we need to input a dns name manually now, for a real server on the Internet. I believe Comcast changes name servers. I actually work Home Networking support for Comcast, but not even we know whether the DNS is static, they say it is dynamic. ANywho, try adding a dns server there, would you like a Comcast one, or one that is fast and definitely static IP ad
[07:14] <dabaR> iflipti: well, what do you want installed now?  You mean you have low RAM, right?
[07:14] <leigh> Hello is this working
[07:15] <dabaR> no
[07:15] <leigh> Hello does this work
[07:15] <chalcedony> dabaR: did your paragraph get cut short?
[07:15] <iflipti> dabaR: yes, 64MB.  A GUI would be nice.  Open office, firefox
[07:15] <leigh> Hello where is newbies channel?????????
[07:15] <Cope57> I have read the wiki on mounting another HD which is formatted with FAT32, but my situation is that the HD is partitioned 4 times. How do I mount all the partitions at boot time? I can get it to mount 1 at a time, and when I try to mount more than 1, the other partitions have the same files as the others...? When mounted one at a time, I see the correct files. Any suggestions?
[07:15] <dabaR> chalcedony: ANywho, try adding a dns server there, would you like a Comcast one, or one that is fast and definitely static IP address so you don't ever have to change IPs?
[07:15] <dabaR> did you get the part up to the word dynamic?
[07:15] <kestas> chalcedony, how are you accessing the internet now? and can you find out what IP your DNS server is?
[07:16] <chalcedony> i have my host from another network, would that be what we need here?
[07:16] <tritium> leigh: right here
[07:16] <leigh> Hello , How do I get to the newbies channel Please?
[07:16] <dabaR> iflipti: visit http://xwinman.org first, and choose a GUI for yourself. I use what is shown on http://icculus.org/openbox and I like that a lot, and supposedly it is fast.
[07:17] <leigh> Ok, thanks
[07:17] <dabaR> chalcedony: the DNS host?
[07:17] <regeya> least.  meaningful.  error.  message.  ever.  "E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"
[07:17] <burepe> leigh, what do you mean? I think this is it
[07:17] <chalcedony> dabaR: i did dns my own host. umm if you have a better one let's look at it?
[07:17] <dabaR> Cope57: sudo fdisk -l to start. then post that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:17] <leigh> I have just installed Ubuntu and everything went fine, but I can't access the floppy?
[07:18] <silentj> dabar, i'm back after running sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, it took a while but everything went smoothly, should i retry running sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start now?
[07:18] <dabaR> chalcedony: I dont atm, I would have to look. Try that one for now, do you know how to add that to the resolv.conf file?
[07:18] <dabaR> silentj: ya, try, that should open up the Ubuntu login screen.
[07:18] <lando> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 to 5.1 without changing user account specific file ( like desktop file or anything like that)
[07:18] <silentj> ok, will do
[07:18] <dabaR> !upgrade2breezy
[07:18] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:18] <lando> thanks
[07:19] <dabaR> $20
[07:19] <chalcedony> dabaR: no sorry i don't.
[07:19] <sasquatc4> hmmm, apparently the guy helping me dissappeared
[07:19] <jsgotangco> haha
[07:19] <iflipti> dabaR:  ok the only issue is how to get the file from my mac, (now connected to the internet) and into the laptap.  I have a USB flashdrive and a firewire to usb cable that I think could work, I just don't know how I would do that in the console
[07:19] <dabaR> chalcedony: no worries, what is the number?
[07:19] <regeya> weird as hell.  all I did was remove one package from my /etc/apt/preferences file, one I didn't want to pin anymore...hrm.
[07:19] <chalcedony> dabaR:  c-71-56-76-189.hsd1.ga.comcast.net has address 71.56.76.189
[07:20] <dabaR> is that a DNS server?
[07:20] <dabaR> no, that is your modem.
[07:20] <chalcedony> dabaR: i did /dns my host and got back the ip .. is that a dns server?
[07:20] <Cope57> dabaR it is pasted
[07:20] <zhx> hello
[07:20] <dabaR> chalcedony: do you use gnome on this debian install?
[07:21] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes
[07:21] <regeya> greetings zhx
[07:21] <zhx> i have a couple wine/winamp questions
[07:21] <dabaR> Cope57: paste /etc/fstab too, please.
[07:21] <zhx> if anybody has a couple mins
[07:21] <regeya> I swear I think I'm going to start keeping everything in /etc in a svn repo
[07:21] <regeya> :-/
[07:21] <regeya> #$%!
[07:21] <dabaR> chalcedony: can you try clicking System>Admin>Networking, I think it has that. There should be DNS servers shown there.
[07:21] <pappan> is gcc not included in the ubuntu desktop
[07:22] <leigh> hello
[07:22] <chalcedony> dabaR: on my box?
[07:22] <regeya> 'E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[07:22] <dabaR> ya, on the one that is online.
[07:22] <regeya> $%@!
[07:22] <burepe> leigh, put in the floppy and do this command sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[07:22] <burepe> that will mount it
[07:23] <regeya> meh.
[07:23] <silentj> dabar, a sincere thanks to your patience and guidance, ubuntu is now up and running and i'm officially a linux user. i'm retiring for the night, with a smile, thanks again!
[07:23] <chalcedony> dabaR: i don't think i see those.
[07:23] <dabaR> $20
[07:23] <dunja> hello, i just ran automatix for firefox 1.5 install but now firefox won't start at all....what can i do?
[07:23] <dabaR> chalcedony: under networking?
[07:23] <dabaR> silentj: good work, anyhow, good patience, and perseverence.
[07:23] <Cope57> dabaR sent.
[07:23] <regeya> yesterday I pinned dvdauthor, mjpegtools, libmjpeg0, libmagick, and imagemagick.  I removed all reference to dvdauthor, and now I get the error message above.  how do I get more meaningful error reports?
[07:24] <regeya> all I want to do is use the hoary pkgs listed above and keep 'em pinned in place.  meh, meh, MEH.
[07:25] <dabaR> dunja: eat a dunja.
[07:25] <leigh> burepe, Ok I did that, it hasn't returned to the prompt yet. No activity on the drive.
[07:25] <dabaR> if you understand that language.
[07:25] <chalcedony> still looking .. i tried clicking for a root window.. got : Please enter root's password to run/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator  and asked for the password.
[07:26] <burepe> hmm
[07:26] <dunja> dabar is a comedian ;)\
[07:26] <Cope57> dabaR I can erase the last three lines and keep changing the hdb1-4 to mount it that way. but I would like to have them all mounted at the same time at boot for easy file transfers.
[07:26] <dabaR> Cope57: well, your computer is recognizing only one partition, are you 100% sure there is more partitions?
[07:26] <regeya> dwhee
[07:26] <Cope57> 110% sure
[07:26] <burepe> restart your session try it again and then go to /media/floppy0 and see if you can see the files
[07:26] <dabaR> Cope57: sda is fat, that is what fdisk says.
[07:26] <chalcedony> that was in Applications > System Tools dabaR
[07:27] <dabaR> chalcedony: how about the one in system>admin>networkign, is that even there in debian?
[07:27] <Cope57> That is my little usb flash stick
[07:27] <Cope57> I was not including that one
[07:27] <chalcedony> dabaR: in my debian those don't seem to be there.
[07:27] <Cope57> It gets automounted.
[07:28] <dabaR> chalcedony: is there a system menu on the top?
[07:28] <burepe> leigh, are you there
[07:28] <burepe> ?
[07:28] <burepe> if you read something and go off to try it say ok or something
[07:28] <leigh> yes
[07:29] <dabaR> chalcedony: ask in #debian how to find out what DNS servers you are using, and then come back and tell me what the IP address of the DNS server is, if you can.
[07:29] <ViViD> if i change my windows server to linux, would i have to reformat the raid array and lose the data?
[07:29] <regeya> for not the first time this week, for the first time in years, I almost regret my decision to use free OSes.
[07:29] <dunja> ok, i got firefox open using sudo, but is this required every time? also the JRE doesn't work even though automatix says it installed it
[07:29] <chalcedony> dabaR: in the footprint on the top left, I have : Accessories, Desktop Preferences, Internet, multimedia, Office, System Tools, Help, Debian Menu
[07:30] <chalcedony> ok ill do that
[07:30] <silverton> ViViD, yes
[07:30] <ViViD> damn
[07:30] <silverton> regeya, buy redhat
[07:30] <dabaR> Cope57: those say your hdb is formatted as linux, but...why you are not able to mount is cause... you selected all to be mounted under the same directory, /media/windows
[07:31] <leigh> still waiting for command to time out. I did previously try  [root]  mount /def/fd0 ./fred and I got block device /dev/fd0 is write protected mounting ro. Eventually it timed out with can't read superblock.
[07:31] <burepe> you know we dont use root
[07:31] <burepe> we do sudo
[07:31] <burepe> that might be the problem
[07:31] <regeya> silverton, you have a very helpful suggestion...
[07:32] <Morg> How frequently do Ubuntu packages get updated? I'm wondering why I still don't have Firefox 1.5.
[07:32] <burepe> just close the console window
[07:32] <punkass> i just installed flight2 and then did an update and it removed dbus, now when i go to reinstalled dbus it wants to remove a pile of stuff...anyone else run into this..using Dapper of course
[07:32] <cafuego> Morg: After release, only sexcurity fixes. FF 1.5 will not get into Breezy. Ever.
[07:32] <poningru> Morg: not going to be availble till april of next year
[07:32] <regeya> question, though...ok, other than 'gee I don't remember wanting an update manager popping up every 5 minutes' is this:  if a package changes names between releases, erm, hm...I think I may have answered my own question.
[07:32] <poningru> when dapper comes out
[07:32] <cafuego> sexcurity!
[07:33] <silverton> regeya, actually, I was going for more sarcastic :)
[07:33] <poningru> !tell Morg about firefox1.5
[07:33] <regeya> cafuego: so are the FF 1.5 security fixes merged into breezy's 1.0.7 package?
[07:33] <punkass> is 1.5 in backports?
[07:33] <poningru> um
[07:33] <silverton> firefox 1.5 doesn't exist
[07:33] <dabaR> chalcedony: try cat /etc/resolv.conf on this computer, the debian system.
[07:33] <poningru> cafuego: what happen to ubotu it forgot firefox1.5
[07:33] <dabaR> silverton: heh
[07:33] <chalcedony> i did
[07:33] <Madpilot> cafuego: nice typo ;)
[07:33] <silverton> poningru, ...
[07:33] <chalcedony> dabaR:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:33] <chalcedony> search b5
[07:33] <chalcedony> nameserver 192.168.3.1
[07:33] <regeya> mmm....sexcurity
[07:34] <silverton> poningru, how does it know about something that doesn't exist?!
[07:34] <silverton> the lastest is 1.0.7
[07:34] <poningru> run Madpilot run
[07:34] <silverton> which is in backports
[07:34] <Cope57> dabaR In my fstab it says the partitions are windoes though.
[07:34] <poningru> err I guess that makes it a fly
[07:34] <punkass> so anyone else have issues with dbus on flight2 lately?
[07:34] <heatxsink> I have 4 packages that won't upgrade
[07:34] <regeya> yes, the 1.0.7 with a gaping goatse-like hole
[07:34] <dabaR> ya, which has no effect on what they really are...try changing the directory to mount to. make sure you create the directories themselves.
[07:34] <cafuego> regeya: Yes, essential fixes get backported.
[07:34] <kspath> I have 1.0.7 and  I have the binary 1.5 directly from mozilla
[07:34] <regeya> hooray!
[07:34] <dabaR> chalcedony: well. search b5 is shown in that file?
[07:35] <regeya> no need to upgrade then
[07:35] <kspath> they both work  great but you have to install firefox1.5 yourself
[07:35] <cafuego> regeya: You can alwats check /usr/share/doc/firefox/changes
[07:35] <kspath> it is easy
[07:35] <dabaR> chalcedony: tsk. ya, I forgot...
[07:35] <regeya> if you're really bugged by the lack of upgrade, are lazy, and don't mind annoyances, I suppose you could use the annoying klik firefox 1.5 install
[07:35] <cafuego> kspath: Remember rule #1.
[07:35] <leigh> burepe, Ok back to the prompt, but no msg.  mount shows no dev/fd0 devices.
[07:35] <poningru> !firefox1.5 is <reply> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:35] <ubotu> okay, poningru
[07:35] <regeya> will have to fix my pinning problem tomorrow.  too tired now.
[07:35] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[07:35] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:36] <dabaR> do: echo "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[07:36] <chalcedony> dabaR: wouldn't that be the ip of the nameserver ? b5 is the name of the lan, i think
[07:36] <dabaR> chalcedony: ^ then
[07:36] <Lukian> i think i'll stick with opera :p
[07:36] <burepe> leigh, ok hold on
[07:37] <dabaR> wtheck was I gonna say to do then...
[07:37] <dabaR> I am tired I guess.
[07:37] <NCLife> hi, i have a problem with my ipod.. it is unmounted but the message "do not disconnect" wont go away, ive tried with the command "eject /dev/sda2" and i get this msg "unable to open /dev/sda2"
[07:37] <NCLife>  any ohter suggestion for how to remove it safely?
[07:37] <kspath> cafuego: rule #1 is use the wiki?
[07:37] <dabaR> I can not remember for the life of me what I was gonna do next.
[07:37] <dabaR> pah, for the life of me...
[07:37] <poningru> kspath: rule number 1  is I am always right
[07:37] <cafuego> !rule 1
[07:37] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[07:38] <chalcedony> dabaR: ~/2001-07-01$ "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[07:38] <chalcedony> bash: nameserver 192.168.3.1: command not found
[07:38] <chalcedony> Password:
[07:38] <poningru> NCLife: have you tried umount?
[07:38] <burepe> did you for get the / before dev/fd0? leigh
[07:38] <dabaR> chalcedony: you forgot the echo part.
[07:38] <kspath> I did not fix anything  I have both  the old one is great also
[07:38] <dabaR> echo before that command, please.
[07:38] <cafuego> chalcedony: You're missing an 'echo' at the start of that line.
[07:38] <bz0b> anyone here use a cli based IRC client
[07:38] <NCLife> poningru, you mean "sudo umount /dev/sda2"? yes
[07:38] <leigh> No
[07:38] <cafuego> bz0b: Lots of people do. You'd be after 'irssi' :-)
[07:38] <dabaR> chalcedony: that should do it. for some reason I forgot the nameserver for that file in the first place.
[07:38] <bz0b> cafuego: i am using irssi
[07:39] <NCLife> i think its already unmounted, just the message "do not disconnect" is still there
[07:39] <poningru> NCLife: no thats not the mount point
[07:39] <burepe> leigh, go in throught the window manager and see if you can see that fd0 device in /dev
[07:39] <poningru> NCLife: the mount point is /media/whatever
[07:39] <bz0b> cafuego: but i want to know how to use naim to connect to IRC, because i know it is possible
[07:39] <bz0b> cafuego: but just not too sure how
[07:39] <NCLife> ok, ill try
[07:39] <Skies> hi
[07:39] <poningru> NCLife: its not literally /media/whatever
[07:39] <cafuego> bz0b: I've never used naim, can't help you there.
[07:40] <chalcedony> dabaR:  ~$  echo "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[07:40] <chalcedony> Password:
[07:40] <poningru> replace whatever with whatever is the actual mount point
[07:40] <Skies> how can I shutdown gnome and xserver to install nvidia drivers :P
[07:40] <dabaR> chalcedony: your password.
[07:40] <dabaR> I mean, the one for that user.
[07:40] <silverton> Skies, ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:40] <kspath> if you do not like irssi  there is bitchx but that is very very similar
[07:40] <bz0b> anyone here use naim?
[07:40] <Skies> but it restarts again
[07:40] <Locote> haha
[07:40] <Skies> ok I'll try again
[07:40] <silverton> Skies, just install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[07:40] <silverton> and then retart'
[07:40] <leigh> Yes, is x-special/device-block
[07:41] <silverton> bah...
[07:41] <chalcedony> dabaR: OK
[07:41] <NCLife> poningru, no it didnt work..
[07:41] <burepe> ok
[07:41] <NCLife> well, ill just unplug it from the usb cable, nothing to do
[07:41] <kspath> bz0b: I played with it one day but gave up on it when I already had 5 other tools that did the same thing
[07:41] <dabaR> Cope57: just change the dirs, and then create the dirs, and then "sudo mount -a"
[07:41] <burepe> leigh, now go into media and see if the floppy0 file exists
[07:41] <chalcedony> dabaR:  Password:
[07:41] <chalcedony> llhull is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:41] <chalcedony> ~$
[07:41] <bz0b> kspath: yeah, i know how to use it for AIM, but for IRC, its being weird
[07:42] <poningru> NCLife: yeah it should automatically umount
[07:42] <chalcedony> apparently it wants something else
[07:42] <silverton> Skies, you didn't let me finish
[07:42] <dabaR> well, how did it work before when we did it? is this on the ubuntu you are doing this?
[07:42] <Skies> ok tell me more
[07:42] <silverton> did you install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings ?
[07:42] <kspath> bz0b: did you try /connect or /server or anything I do not on member syntax
[07:42] <Skies> dunno
[07:42] <poningru> Skies: he means from synaptic or apt-get
[07:42] <bz0b> kspath: yes
[07:42] <Skies> wait
[07:42] <iflipti> does anyone know how to browse the contents of a usb flash drive with a GUI?
[07:42] <silverton> in ubuntu, that's all you have to do
[07:42] <bz0b> kspath: but those are all TOC2 protocol, so it wont work
[07:42] <dabaR> chalcedony: ya, that is what I wanted to add to the above instruction, to do it on Ubuntu.
[07:42] <Cope57> dabaR I just finished doing that. But it is strange that the system still says Linux. Maybe because there is no Windows on this system? It is just a spare HD that my pc's share together.
[07:43] <kspath> bz0b: maybe search for naim how-to docs via google?
[07:43] <Cope57> still it is FAT32 though.
[07:43] <poningru> iflipti: when you plug it in it will automatically open up a nautilus window
[07:43] <dabaR> Cope57: did it fix your issue? I think the drives are really formatted as ext3...
[07:43] <poningru> that will allow you to do just that
[07:43] <bz0b> kk
[07:43] <kspath> bz0b: only trouble with google is if no one else uses it   it might not find what you want
[07:43] <leigh> Yes, it says it is  a root volume with 1.1GB free.
[07:43] <Skies> i've done it
[07:43] <burepe> ok
[07:43] <chalcedony> dabaR: lol now you say that.. ok just a min :)
[07:44] <burepe> now do this command
[07:44] <dabaR> chalcedony: ya, I forgot above, when I was saying I wanted to say something else, that was it, I just forgot.
[07:44] <Skies> but I want the best driver :P
[07:44] <burepe> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:44] <poningru> Skies: oh ic
[07:44] <kspath> bz0b: if you use the linux specific google search it helps a lot sometimes
[07:44] <burepe> post the line that says floppy in it
[07:44] <poningru> Skies: if you want to shut it down just do ctrl+alt+f1
[07:44] <poningru> then ps-aux
[07:44] <poningru> and kill
[07:44] <Skies> that on the nvidia.com
[07:44] <silverton> Skies, "best" and "most compatible" are very different
[07:44] <Skies> ok
[07:44] <iflipti> poningru: no, I did a server install, I need to install a GUI and the installer is on the flash drive
[07:44] <Skies> :D
[07:45] <dabaR> iflipti: the installer?
[07:45] <poningru> iflipti: oh ic
[07:45] <christianp> hi all
[07:45] <bz0b> kspath: considering the fact that naim audio is a big company, when you search for naim how-to you get a lot of how-to install audio parts
[07:45] <burepe> leigh, what are you doing with the floppy?
[07:45] <poningru> iflipti: you have to mount the thing
[07:45] <kspath> bz0b: http://naim.n.ml.org/about
[07:45] <bz0b> kspath: thanks
[07:46] <iflipti> poningru: k, how do I do that?
[07:46] <poningru> iflipti: hold on
[07:46] <Cope57> dabaR Should this work? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5944
[07:46] <leigh> I'm not doing anything I promise!. I want to copy a DOS program into a DOSBOX.
[07:46] <iflipti> poningru: ok
[07:46] <chalcedony> dabaR: *sigh* nameserver 192.168.3.1
[07:46] <cafuego> Skies: The prepackaged on is the best one, as is been built by people with extensive experience.
[07:47] <dabaR> Cope57: make sure you created the dirs themselves.
[07:47] <dabaR> chalcedony: is that the result you got from that?
[07:47] <Skies> ok
[07:47] <Skies> :P
[07:47] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes
[07:47] <dabaR> from the command...
[07:47] <silverton> is there a way to keep servers from showing up on the desktop?
[07:47] <karlan> Isnt FireFox 1.5 supported for ubuntu?
[07:47] <Corrupter> how do i check what version of gtk i have?
[07:47] <dabaR> well, no sighing required, try pinging rather.
[07:47] <mrkoje> karlan,  It hasn't been packaged into a deb and placed on the repos yet.
[07:48] <ajmitch> chalcedony: so you currently have 2 systems on the network, and only one has working dns?
[07:48] <chalcedony> dabaR: i typed from my box to his:  echo "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[07:48] <karlan> mrkoje, okay, do you know when that is going to happen?
[07:48] <dabaR> chalcedony: and...can you ping from his box now?
[07:48] <karlan> i tried to install it manually, but i got nothing :)
[07:48] <dabaR> to the world.
[07:48] <Cope57> dabaR I used sudo mkdir /media/windows/hdb1, sudo mkdir /media/windows/hdb2, and so on, The directories should be there, but are they in the right place?
[07:48] <poningru> !tell karlan about firefox1.5
[07:48] <mrkoje> karlan,  probably soon. If you must have it and you know what your doing... or to learn you can download the source and compile it your self.
[07:49] <silverton> dennis@spirit:~$ ping the_world
[07:49] <silverton> ping: unknown host the_world
[07:49] <silverton> :o  ohnoes!
[07:49] <poningru> iflipti: dude you have to follow a general mounting howto
[07:49] <poningru> hold on searching for one
[07:49] <dabaR> Cope57: well, if you created the dirs you will mount to in that file, ya, they are. so "sudo mount -a" now.
[07:49] <karlan> :)
[07:49] <karlan> thx
[07:49] <khermans> who needs help?
[07:49] <mrkoje> karlan,  be warned though... you need to read up on how to do it.  And if you can do it on a test machine first.
[07:49] <silverton> sorry dabaR, couldn't resist :)
[07:49] <Corrupter> how do i check what version of gtk i have?
[07:49] <leigh> In my file system under home the floppy icon appears with a lock symbol. When I try to mount a dialog pops "Cancel Open?" opening "Floppy1"
[07:49] <dabaR> $20
[07:49] <karlan> mrkoje, yeah, this is my testmachine, and i have compiled packages before. a log time ago thou :-)
[07:49] <dabaR> as restitution
[07:50] <karlan> probably addicted to apt-get :)
[07:50] <iflipti> poningru: ok, I did find http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1256766,00.asp, but it seems you need some other programs first to edit the /etc/fstab
[07:50] <silverton> Corrupter, no need to repeat yourself :)
[07:50] <Corrupter> silverton: nobody answered and he asked if anyone eneded help
[07:50] <Cope57> dabaR they are all mounted, and all files are in the proper partitions. Now are they ALL going to be mounted at each reboot?
[07:50] <burepe> leigh, do this command and post the line that says floppy in it. sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:50] <silverton> and if you using hoary, 5.10, then you most likely have gtk2.0
[07:51] <silverton> *5.04
[07:51] <dabaR> Cope57: only one way to know for sure, but yes, taht is the proper config.
[07:51] <poningru> iflipti: thats only for automatic mounting
[07:51] <silverton> and I'm sure that even if you are using warty, 4.10, that it has gtk2.0 in it
[07:51] <burepe> leigh, type my name when you post this is moving pretty fast and I dont want to mis your post
[07:51] <Cope57> Well, one way to test it... hehe, thanks.
[07:51] <poningru> iflipti: if you have it permenantly connected
[07:51] <iflipti> poningru: oh, so not useful to my situation
[07:51] <dabaR> $20 to yuo too.
[07:52] <dabaR>  00:57:56 up 24 days, 18:04,  4 users,  load average: 5.00, 5.02, 5.00
[07:52] <chalcedony> dabaR: YIPPIE!!
[07:52] <chalcedony> PING www.google.com (216.239.37.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:52] <chalcedony> etc.
[07:52] <chalcedony> : 9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 9158ms
[07:52] <chalcedony> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 902/24.811/31.751/2.528 ms
[07:52] <daved> how can i modify the theme of gtk1 apps?
[07:52] <karlan> does anyone know how i can get rid of the Beep-media-player taskbar in my panel? i only want it to show in the traypanel
[07:53] <poningru> iflipti: you can just browse the contents by cd into the mounted point
[07:53] <dabaR> ya, I knew that would work. I am sorry, chalcedony, we could have been done earlier, if I had not forgot that you need nameserver then IP address.
[07:53] <antonstaaf> Hey all, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop.  Everything works fine until it tries to install GRUB.  It fails to install grub into /target/ as well as the master boot record.  It also fails to install LILO if I try that.  Should /target/ actually be /boot/?  Thanks.
[07:53] <cafuego>  17:53:28 up 277 days, 21:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.50, 0.27, 0.20
[07:53] <ajmitch> chalcedony: now does firefox work? :)
[07:53] <dabaR> hah
[07:53] <antonstaaf> or should target be something like /dev/hd??
[07:53] <antonstaaf> not that it looks like there is any way of changing that...
[07:54] <chalcedony> dabaR: you did GREAT !!! i'm so grateful :) ty ty ty
[07:54] <dabaR> !lose me
[07:54] <ubotu> dabaR: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:54] <iflipti> poningru: is that going to be in /dev ?
[07:54] <burepe> antonstaaf, doesnt it do it automatically? just let it install with what it wants and change it later if you want
[07:54] <leigh> burepe, /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[07:54] <burepe> ok
[07:54] <poningru> iflipti: in the extremetech guide just cd /mnt/usbstick
[07:54] <dabaR> chalcedony: OK, good night, if it is night at your place.
[07:54] <concept10> is there a easy way to remove the whole kde desktop from my system?  removing the meta package kubuntu-desktop doesnt work
[07:54] <burepe> leigh, i dont know why it is not working
[07:54] <cafuego> dabaR: The others all have uptimes in between 0 and 4 days, though ;-)
[07:54] <silverton> in rhythmbox, in the import folder into library dialog, how do I add an ftp server?
[07:54] <antonstaaf> burepe, no it fails to do the automatic install of GRUB.
[07:54] <burepe> leigh, what are you using the floppy for?
[07:55] <concept10> kde has taken over my gnome theme
[07:55] <antonstaaf> Then it checks for other operating systems and asks if I want to install GRUB in the master boot record.  That fails too.
[07:55] <silverton>  22:55:19 up  3:02,  2 users,  load average: 1.36, 1.36, 1.25
[07:55] <burepe> antonstaaf, that sucks
[07:55] <silverton> the power button my box keeps getting hit accidently, I want to disable it
[07:55] <burepe> are you using breezy?
[07:55] <silverton> or else my box would have been up since the time it was installed
[07:55] <chalcedony> dabaR: i'm in Georgia, about to try getting firefox to go again. My husband has been trying to configure firefox to do things like let him see movies and having it open windows on his homepage: google
[07:55] <silverton> er, power button on my boxc
[07:55] <antonstaaf> Yes, just torrented it this evening.
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> move it silverton
[07:56] <antonstaaf> I am using the PXE boot option.  As my laptop doesn't have a CD drive
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> unscrew it from the frame of the case
[07:56] <silverton> Mr_Milenko, it's in the only convienient place
[07:56] <dabaR> chalcedony: having it open windows on his home page? you mean you have been trying to set the home page?
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> and move it inside or something
[07:56] <burepe> what is your comp antonstaaf ah
[07:56] <silverton> Mr_Milenko, I still need it, lol
[07:56] <SuperL4g> What package is it that has mkinitrd?
[07:56] <silverton> I want to know if it's possible to disable it from inside ubuntu
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> nothing a dremel, super glue, and electrical tape cant fix
[07:56] <poningru> silverton: just go into keyboard shortcuts and disable it
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:56] <leigh> Yes, I've been down thru here all night? I have been using the drive all month it has to work.  Is there smoe BIOS settings?   Drive is set, and I tried with floppy seek at boot on/off. Tried chaning disks. Nothing gets a squeak out of it.
[07:57] <burepe> antonstaaf, actually how do you do that? I have a comp without a cd drive too
[07:57] <silverton> poningru, it's not a keyboard shortcut
[07:57] <silverton> it's the button on my case dude
[07:57] <iflipti> poningru: ok wow.  It says:  "l [some numbers]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[07:57] <iflipti> poningru: is that good?
[07:57] <antonstaaf> It's a Sharp Actius PC-MM10.  It's a Crueso machine.  256 megs of memory, 30Gig harddrive.
[07:57] <silverton> my girlfriends ass keeps hitting it
[07:57] <cafuego> !bind bin/mkinitrd
[07:57] <ubotu> cafuego: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:57] <karlan> damnit, i cant get the freakin nvidialogo to appear. this is really hard to get it to work :C
[07:57] <chalcedony> dabaR: firefox works!!! it found google
[07:57] <burepe> leigh, what are you using the floppy for?
[07:57] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes
[07:57] <leigh> burepe, sorry forgot to put your name.
[07:57] <cafuego> !find bin/mkinitrd
[07:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bin/mkinitrd' (2 shown): (/usr/sbin/mkinitrd) in utils/initrd-tools ;; (/usr/sbin/mkinitrd-cd) in universe/admin/mkinitrd-cd.
[07:58] <antonstaaf> You have to setup TFTPBoot and DHCP on a server somewhere.  The bootp protocol allows the server to tell the net booting computer about an image that it should get from a tftp server and run as it's kernel.
[07:58] <SuperL4g> cafuego: thank you sir.
[07:58] <leigh> burepe, Just want to test a dos program under DOSbox.
[07:58] <antonstaaf> THe ubuntu install CD has a netboot directory in the install directory that contains all that you need.
[07:58] <burepe> oh
[07:58] <dabaR> chalcedony: ya, off course, you did not test before? what was wrong is that network names, like google.com were not translated to network addresses, like 69.4.43.4. So as soon as we fixed that, all programs can "get on the Internet". Is the home page set now?
[07:58] <antonstaaf> You just copy that directory to your tftp servers root directory.
[07:58] <mrkoje> leigh,  how did you write to the floppy
[07:58] <fatehaze> can anyone tell me why my gaim refuses to connect sometimes?
[07:59] <silverton> /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn
[07:59] <silverton> that's the file that needed editing
[07:59] <silverton> of course googling would tell me the answer
[07:59] <silverton> duh...
[07:59] <silverton> now to test... here goes:...
[07:59] <antonstaaf> It's actually the easiest net boot install I've ever done.  Other than the fact that it isn't quite working that is.  :)
[07:59] <burepe> leigh, yeah sorry i dont know what is going on with it. try asking someone else. alot of these people know way more than me. sorry
[07:59] <chalcedony> dabaR: i think he/i forgot how to set the home page in firefox.
[07:59] <fatehaze> it gets to "received authorization" then disconnects
[07:59] <dabaR> chalcedony: but now you know, or no? it is under Edit>Prefs>something in there, maybe general tab.
[07:59] <mrkoje> leigh,  lets here your problem... I have some experience with that I think
[07:59] <burepe> antonstaaf, is there a faq for the netboot install?
[07:59] <leigh> burepe, I have tried various dos type disks including a FREEDOS boot disk. i hvae tried mount -t msdos ... but with the same results.
[08:00] <antonstaaf> yah, one sec.
[08:00] <antonstaaf> http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[08:00] <fatehaze> it seems to be a ubuntu-specific problem, it doesn't happen with other distros or OSes
[08:00] <leigh> mrkoje,  I have tried various dos type disks including a FREEDOS boot disk. i hvae tried mount -t msdos ... but with the same results.
[08:00] <Locote> How can I play .avi files?
[08:01] <antonstaaf> Thats a little old though.  You don't need to do the gunzip or the editing of the config file.  Thats already done with breezy
[08:01] <mrkoje> leigh,  what are you trying to do?
[08:01] <dabaR> Locote: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <fatehaze> can anyone recommend a better client than gaim?  one that's, er, dependable?
[08:01] <dabaR> chalcedony: can you reboot that machine, the ubuntu one? to see whether the fix is permanent.
[08:01] <carlK> how do I fax?
[08:01] <mrkoje> ubotu tell Locote about easybreezy
[08:01] <burepe> mrkoje, leigh said what they are trying just a little up the page
[08:02] <MrFarts> FatDarrel, what's wrong with gaim ?
[08:02] <leigh> mrkoje,  I simply wish to read a (dos)floppy . I want to test a program under DOSbox.
[08:02] <kadaj> hello all
[08:02] <silverton> yeah, it didn't work >.<  rofl
[08:02] <mrkoje> leigh,  Ok, so you want to boot into dos? Then run a dos floppy
[08:02] <kadaj> can you tell me the ubuntu speed
[08:02] <JonasNorman> silverton: hey
[08:02] <JonasNorman> silverton: it didn't work i guess
[08:02] <kadaj> or boot  time
[08:03] <leigh> mrkoje,  I cant seem to get any acces to the drive it won't read anything.
[08:03] <mrkoje> leigh,  or you want to mount a dos filesystem in linux
[08:03] <chalcedony> dabaR we have: Preferences General Home Page Location(s) file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html  how do i change that to www.google.com?
[08:03] <iflipti> poningru: I think there may be a problem with the Flash drive I'm using... it's an iPod
[08:03] <silverton> JonasNorman, nope, so I'll just delete the .sh file it calls, I figured commenting those lines out would do it
[08:03] <silverton> I was wrong
[08:03] <dabaR> just type www.google.com in there.
[08:03] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes, what works to reboot a ubuntu box besides turning off the power supply?
[08:03] <mrkoje> leigh,  what type of dos are you trying to load
[08:03] <JonasNorman> silverton: how long do you keep you computer on for
[08:03] <leigh> mrkoje,  No I want to boot into Linux and run DOSbox app. and then run my DOS program in that.
[08:04] <carlK> chalcedony, system, logoutr rebot
[08:04] <dabaR> chalcedony: hm...do you have gnome on that box? system>log out, I think has that option.
[08:04] <silverton> JonasNorman, my computers never turn off, unless accidently, or updates
[08:04] <leigh> mrkoje,  It doesn't seem to matter the drive doesn't come on.
[08:04] <iflipti> poningru:I since it's a mac HFS type, I'll probably have to format the iPod into UNIX file type
[08:04] <antonstaaf> burepe, Ooooo, I just noticed that I can get a command prompt at this point.  Hours of fun await.  I'm going to poke around a bunch and see what I can figure out.
[08:04] <mrkoje> i see
[08:04] <burepe> cool
[08:04] <burepe> good luck
[08:04] <eobanb> iflipti, i wouldn't reformat your ipod.
[08:04] <mrkoje> leigh,  is your floppy mounted?
[08:05] <JonasNorman> silverton: well if your next method doesn't work, a really barbaric solution would to be to open your case and remove the power button line to the motherboard
[08:05] <burepe> mrkoje, we tried that sudo /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[08:05] <JonasNorman> silverton: it would be labled POWER SW or POWER or ON even
[08:05] <bookofjude> Is the command for switching to a terminal log-in from the ubuntu (GDM) login Alt-Ctrl-F1?
[08:05] <silverton> JonasNorman, I'm not a nub :P
[08:05] <burepe> mrkoje, but it was no good
[08:05] <iflipti> eobanb: eh, why not?  also, too late :/
[08:05] <JonasNorman> silverton: sorry lol
[08:06] <antonstaaf> Ahhh, /target/ shows up in the install windows because thats what the target harddrive is mounted as...
[08:06] <silverton> I just want it disabled through software, cause if the power goes out, I want to be able to turn it back on easily
[08:06] <leigh> mrkoje,  It doesn't appear in fstab, It can't mount it from the browser or the command line
[08:06] <silverton> YAY!
[08:06] <bz0b> brb
[08:06] <silverton> I just deleted /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[08:06] <JonasNorman> silverton: i didn't think you can disable it through software unless your cmos supports that
[08:06] <iflipti> eobanb: I'm pretty sure that I can change the file type back to HFS, and use iPod software restore
[08:07] <eobanb> why are you doing that?
[08:08] <burepe> leigh, mrkoje, leigh wasn't this the line in your fstab? /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0     You just said it wasn't there but you posted that line before.
[08:08] <carlK> iflipti, I think yu need t find the ipod for linux clent... kpod or ktunes or something like that
[08:08] <antonstaaf> Hahahahahaha, so apparently the standard mirror didn't have the grub package...  How can I find an apt repository with grub?  Looking in /var/log/messages I see "E: Package grub has no installation candidate"...
[08:08] <iflipti> eobanb:  I've just installed a "server" install of ubuntu.  I want a GUI for this machine, but I have no way of connecting the machine to the internet to get the neccesary packages
[08:08] <silverton> JonasNorman, I deleted /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh which calls /sbin/shutdown -h
[08:08] <warsheep> hi i'm new in ubuntu
[08:09] <JonasNorman> silverton: so it works?
[08:09] <warsheep> i'm installing upower but cant ... this is the error message The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:09] <warsheep>   upower: Depends: libppdfb-0.9-22 but it is not installable
[08:09] <dabaR> chalcedony: you do not have to reboot if you had not yet.
[08:09] <mrkoje> leigh,  I don't really understand the problem I guess... I know you need to mount your floppy first. Maybe try reading the mount man pages
[08:10] <silverton> JonasNorman, nah, it _doesn't_ work, which is the point ;)
[08:10] <iflipti> eobanb: so I've downloaded XFCE installer and put it on the ipod, to install on the machine
[08:10] <JonasNorman> silverton: hah
[08:10] <eobanb> why cant you connect it to the internet?
[08:10] <silverton> I have a modded xbox, which is on for weeks at a time
[08:10] <silverton> my windows box can usually stay up for about a week or two before it _needs_ a restart
[08:10] <antonstaaf> burepe: What file on the filesystem do I edit to add apt repositories?  Thanks
[08:10] <situ> Buenas
[08:11] <situ> alguien podria ayudarme por favor?
[08:11] <silverton> and my nix box, well, it couldn't stay on for over 2 days cause of my girlfriend
[08:11] <leigh> burepe, Um, yes, sorry.. but mount command reports no fd0.
[08:11] <burepe> sudo nano /etc/fstab antonstaaf
[08:11] <JonasNorman> silverton: yeah i read that part i was like oh my
[08:11] <warsheep> upower: Depends: libppdfb-0.9-22 but it is not installable ..... how can i install the libppdfb???
[08:11] <chalcedony> dabaR: it lost the settings on reboot.
[08:11] <burepe> then add the repositories from what i type next. the second link antonstaaf
[08:11] <JonasNorman> silverton: this past weekend i put my xbox components in a new computer case
[08:12] <burepe> !sources
[08:12] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:12] <silverton> heh, yeah, though, the power button is right in line with where my knee is too, so turning around in my chair, I've knocked it a few times
[08:12] <iflipti> eobanb: I have a DSL connection, but the laptop I'm installing it on has only a regular modem port.  If I connect via the modem, the DSL modem gets confused.  Or so I understand it
[08:12] <silverton> JonasNorman, that's awesome!
[08:12] <Lukian> silverton: disable it?
[08:12] <dabaR> please resend
[08:12] <silverton> lukewarm, I did
[08:12] <Lukian> hehe
[08:12] <silverton> iflipti, the dsl modem is supposed to connect to the laptop via ethernet
[08:12] <silverton> go out and buy a pcmcia ethernet card
[08:12] <burepe> antonstaff did you catch that?
[08:12] <silverton> they are uber cheap
[08:12] <leigh> mrkoje, sorry fstab does have fdo, but mount command reports no fd0.
[08:12] <JonasNorman> silverton: what linux do you have on your xbox
[08:12] <silverton> ubuntu
[08:13] <Sweetest> Can anyone explain this: Build command 'cd wine-0.9.3-winehq && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
[08:13] <iflipti> silverton, yes, and the laptop has no ethernet port
[08:13] <silverton> iflipti, I said go out and buy a pcmcia ethernet card
[08:13] <antonstaaf> No, missed it.  I just saw a !sources
[08:13] <silverton> listen son!
[08:13] <iflipti> only a 56k modem port
[08:14] <dabaR> hey, can someone please resend the last message that was sent to me, please?
[08:14] <iflipti> silverton:  Oh, I have one of those
[08:14] <silverton> iflipti, !!!!!!
[08:14] <JonasNorman> lol
[08:14] <warsheep> find /etc -name sources.list
[08:14] <silverton> iflipti, then use it!
[08:14] <silverton> chalcedony dabaR: it lost the settings on reboot.
[08:14] <silverton> * dabaR has quit ("leaving")
[08:14] <warsheep> ooops
[08:14] <warsheep> sorry
[08:14] <dabaR> thank you.
[08:14] <antonstaaf> also, did you really mean /etc/fstab?  Thats the filesystem mount point definition file...  I mean additional network servers to get packages from...
[08:14] <iflipti> how would I do that?
[08:15] <burepe> antonstaff
[08:15] <burepe> what do you mean
[08:15] <antonstaaf> Ahhh, I missed the ubotu response...
[08:15] <burepe> you want a repository list?
[08:15] <burepe> yeah
[08:15] <antonstaaf> Now I understand whats going on there.  :)
[08:15] <burepe> the second one
[08:15] <burepe> sorry
[08:15] <antonstaaf> I didn't know that !sources was a bot command.  Thanks.
[08:15] <darth_chatri> where are the xdm logs in ubuntu? xdm is not starting X
[08:16] <burepe> i didnt know how to direct it to you so I had to say it like that
[08:16] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:16] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:16] <leigh> mrkoje, I have tried man pages, I don't understand why it wont mount the floppy.
[08:16] <iflipti> the installer said it wasn't able to detect any network hardware...  I thought I needed a module to get it to work
[08:16] <Madpilot> burepe: do !tell <nick> about <thing>
[08:16] <burepe> ha
[08:16] <burepe> ah
[08:16] <burepe> thanks
[08:16] <silverton> heh, I wanna "play" with ubotu !!
[08:16] <burepe> !potato
[08:16] <ubotu> burepe: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:17] <burepe> ha
[08:17] <antonstaaf> hehe
[08:17] <chalcedony> dabaR: you came back?
[08:17] <burepe> !tell silverton about potato
[08:17] <darth_chatri> anyone using xdm here?
[08:17] <dabaR> chalcedony: ya, Ill be one sec.
[08:17] <seth_k|lappy> burepe, please do not abuse the bot :)
[08:17] <chalcedony> ok no rush dabaR :)
[08:17] <dabaR> chalcedony: OK, what we need to do is the following... let's run the command that we did, the: echo "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf, on the ubuntu computer for now.
[08:17] <silverton> abuse is bad!
[08:17] <chalcedony> ok dabaR :))
[08:17] <zoyd> darth_chatri: shouldn't they be in /var/log/xdm.log, like debian?
[08:18] <burepe> abuse?
[08:18] <burepe> ok
[08:18] <darth_chatri> yes, there should, but its not there
[08:18] <zoyd> hmm .. anyone knows of this xdm problem?
[08:19] <dabaR> chalcedony: OK, after that... post your /etc/dhclient.conf to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:19] <leigh> mrkoje, I tried to mount the drive from the command line earlier and I got the response, "Unable to mount the selected volume"  /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only,  but there is nothing there.
[08:19] <dabaR> chalcedony: OK, after that... post your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to paste.ubuntu-nl.org atually.
[08:20] <dabaR> you can do that by writing "cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf" in a terminal, and then copy and paste over to pastebin.
[08:20] <carlK> didn't hoary have a "fax printer" option?
[08:20] <silverton> how do I get rid of the network servers I've logged into from the desktop?
[08:20] <leigh> mrkoje, I have tried various disks of the dos format, none of which are write-protected. They are not read by the drive. The drive does not acces the disk at all.
[08:21] <carlK> leigh, what is your mount command?
[08:21] <burepe> leigh try sudo chmod 777 /dev/fd0
[08:21] <mrkoje> leigh,  what did you use to write the program to the disk...
[08:21] <zoyd> darth_chatri: bug report, file one if it's not already.
[08:21] <dabaR> chalcedony: that is all on the Ubuntu from now on.
[08:22] <burepe> leigh then do sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[08:22] <mrkoje> leigh,  is it a commercial disk..
[08:22] <leigh> carlK, tried mount /dev/fd0 media/floppy1 also with -t msdos.
[08:23] <carlK> leigh, and what is the responce to that command?
[08:23] <mrkoje> leigh,  then after mounting it what did you do?
[08:23] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, no matter what disk i put in the drive doesn't come on.
[08:23] <linuxbabe> hello. i have a general question about installing ubuntu on a stripe set? my motherboard has a built-on sata raid controller (nforce), and i'm wondering what sort of issues, if any, i can expect by trying to install either alone or as a dual-boot config on a raid 0 array?
[08:23] <JonasNorman> silverton: can you be more specific? i don't want to assume and be reminded your not a nub
[08:24] <burepe> leigh, reinstall
[08:24] <silverton> lol, you know when you connect to a network server?  and you give it all the credentials, it creats an icon on the desktop for that server
[08:24] <silverton> I don't really want that ;P
[08:24] <leigh> mrkoje, it didn't mount , read above.
[08:24] <JonasNorman> silverton: right click and unmount?
[08:24] <silverton> yeah, just too much work, ya know?
[08:24] <silverton> cause then when I want to connect again, I have to feed it the credentials again
[08:24] <Madpilot> silverton: there's an option somewhere to not display those icons on the desktop
[08:24] <leigh> burepe, have'nt done chmod yet to busy typing ansdwers.
[08:25] <dabaR> silverton: it is a gconf option. Apps>Sys Tools>COnfig Editor>find it.
[08:25] <silverton> dabaR, thanks :D
[08:25] <JonasNorman> silverton: i want to do this too!
[08:25] <dabaR> silverton: under nautilus desktop, look for that, I am in console.
[08:25] <carlK> leigh,   sudo mount -v /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[08:25] <carlK> the -v may give a clue
[08:25] <JonasNorman> silverton: i'm going to follow
[08:25] <dabaR> chalcedony: I have a solution, whenever you are ready.
[08:26] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, Reinstall?
[08:27] <carlK> leigh, no - it can't be ;that bad;
[08:27] <mrkoje> leigh,  no you shouldn't have to reinstall...
[08:27] <owner989> fluxbox is actually a nice gui
[08:27] <dabaR> linuxbabe: try ubuntuforums.org, wiki.ubuntu.com, and google.com if noone knows anything else.
[08:27] <owner989> im trying it out
[08:27] <mrkoje> leigh,  kind of silly question but your trying to mount it with the floppy already in right?
[08:27] <linuxbabe> oki-doki dabaR
[08:27] <linuxbabe> thnx
[08:27] <dabaR> owner989: yes, it sure is.
[08:28] <SuperL4g> My system won't boot because it's not loading the module for my SATA controller... but I'm having a hell of a time making an initrd.img file... anyone have time/desire/patience to help? :)
[08:28] <iflipti> Does anyone know how to get a Buffalo "WLI-CB-G54S" working from the terminal??
[08:28] <chalcedony> dabaR: i was postint to the wrong place.. ready when you are :)
[08:28] <bur[n] er> does anyone know how to make evolution deliver mail to a different folder than the inbox?
[08:28] <silverton> dabaR, will gnome have to be restarted?
[08:28] <owner989> but i wish there was a way to import the menus from gnome into fluxbox
[08:29] <bur[n] er> or does anyone know how to make thunderbird deliver mail to a different folder than the inbox?
[08:29] <silverton> JonasNorman, I think I found it     system->storage
[08:29] <leigh> burepe, done chmod then did mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy1 , still timing out.
[08:29] <dabaR> restart nautilus at least.
[08:29] <silverton> meh, I'll just kill it all, brb
[08:29] <dabaR> silverton: "killall nautilus"
[08:30] <linuxbabe> bur[n] er - message filters under tools?
[08:30] <bur[n] er> owner989: i bet you could write a script that read /usr/share/applications
[08:30] <dabaR> chalcedony: ok, well, have you gotten online with the Ubuntu already?
[08:30] <robotgeek> tritium: well, i tried LVM. i did not understand a bit of it, back to good old ext3 partitions
[08:30] <dabaR> chalcedony: with the echo nameserver....
[08:30] <bur[n] er> aww... thanks linuxbabe, I didn't think of that ;)
[08:30] <linuxbabe> np
[08:30] <chalcedony> dabaR: i am in vi where you said.
[08:31] <leigh> carK, burepe, mrkoje, I have been trying with a disk in, It isnt even accessing the drive.
[08:31] <dabaR> chalcedony: oh, the dhclient.conf? no, I have a different solution.
[08:32] <mrkoje> leigh,  have you ever had the floppy drive working before?
[08:32] <jenda_away> hey good morning folks. I am wondering... is there a way to browse the previous commands in the terminal a little more selectively? I'm imagining something like typing a long command (sudo cp [options} something somewhere) and the next day, after a ton of other commands I want to repeat it (or modify and do)... so I type "sudo cp" and then a combination of keys like ctrl-alt-up and it switches just like if I pressed the up button, but ins
[08:32] <jenda_away> tead of switching to the previous command, it would switch to the previous cmd starting with "sudo cp"... any ideas?
[08:32] <chalcedony> dabaR: oh ok it looks a lot like an irc server ..
[08:32] <leigh> mrkoje, Yes, yesterday.
[08:32] <robotgeek> jenda_away: i have just the solution
[08:32] <jenda_away> robotgeek: screen?
[08:32] <silverton> nope, neither of those were it
[08:32] <robotgeek> jenda_away: alas ,screen is not the solution to this :)
[08:33] <azza211> hey are you guys able to help me install my unbuntu?
[08:33] <dabaR> chalcedony: you can exit that, and then, "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf". On the looks like note... they call them text buffers. they have so much text in them, I am not 100% grasping the concept yet.
[08:33] <robotgeek> jenda_away: http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/papers/bash_tips/
[08:33] <jenda_away> thank you robotgeek :)
[08:33] <dabaR> chalcedony: that will be it. then, post output of ifconfig from that ubuntu to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, please.
[08:34] <dabaR> and check that you can browse the web at that moment.
[08:34] <robotgeek> jenda: anytime
[08:34] <azza211> ?
[08:34] <mrkoje> leigh,  are your floppy disks regular 1.44mb floppies or might they be a higher density?
[08:34] <azza211> is anyone here a ubunutu wiz?
[08:35] <sampan> does anyone know if linux (ubuntu/kubuntu to be more specific) reads/writes to apple mac os X partitions?  (just curious as a point of reference for a future purchasing decision)
[08:35] <dabaR> Ya, I roxorr, azza211
[08:35] <dabaR> pah
[08:35] <Madpilot> azza211: asking a specific question will probably work better than a really general question...
[08:35] <azza211> so you'd be able to tell me why my install isn't working?
[08:36] <chalcedony> dabaR: probably you did not mean to type that at the prompt, this is what i got when i did:  chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[08:36] <leigh> carK, burepe, mrkoje, Regular dos 1.44 disks. It doesn't appearto be the disk format. the drive does not come on to even try the wrong format.
[08:36] <dabaR> sampan: yes it does write to those. if you are planning on getting an apple, consider whether you will be getting the airport extreme card, since it is not really supported yet.
[08:37] <mrkoje> leigh,  thats odd...  I'm not being much help... sorry
[08:37] <azza211> well, it goes through the first install and then ejects the cd , then when it runs through wihtout the cd it goes through some checklist and then comes up with all this jibberish and something about kernel?
[08:37] <azza211> and then stops
[08:37] <mrkoje> leigh,  I'm reading up into your problem...  give me a couple of minutes
[08:37] <dabaR> Ya, give us exact errors, and we will tell you whether we know how to fix it.
[08:38] <sampan> dabar, i'm contemplating a powerbook for a year long research trip to Asia.  i'm not sure i want to go with windows (so many ways to get infected in hotels and such) ... but a PPC ubuntu would let me use OS X and ubuntu :)
[08:38] <chalcedony> dabaR: you do great :)
[08:38] <leigh> carK, burepe, mrkoje, If I install another drive, will Ubuntu redetect. Can I reinstall just the floppy device drivers?
[08:38] <carlK> leigh, yes
[08:38] <carlK> er... just install the drive
[08:38] <dabaR> not really, you would not be able to get the wireless working with Ubuntu.
[08:38] <dabaR> sampan: ^
[08:39] <cafuego> dabaR: But soon...!
[08:39] <dabaR> :)
[08:39] <dabaR> chalcedony: hm...not sure, not sure. Can you get online with ubuntu at the moment?
[08:39] <iflipti> ok, so you can format an iPod to a different file type, even partition an iPod.  The restore program can bring it all back
[08:39] <iflipti> :)
[08:39] <dabaR> chalcedony: and do you have gnome up and running at the moment on Ubuntu?
[08:40] <demon71> Anyone know what this means, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[08:40] <cafuego> sampan: if you have a powerbook (not ibook) you'll also have a pcmcia slot, so any 802.11b orinoco card (except the MS one) will work fine.
[08:40] <leigh> carK, burepe, mrkoje, Thats fine guys, I've been playing PC's for many year, they can be annoying, thanks for the help
[08:40] <mrkoje> leigh,  hold on
[08:40] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes he has gnome running .. can't connect to the web, i don't think.
[08:40] <sampan> dabar, yeah -- even if that's the case (a good argument for retaining the OS X).  i'm worried too, though, about how well something like the ultraportables (sony vaio -- sub 3 lbs) would be supported in ubuntu anyway
[08:40] <sampan> cafuego, really?  lol -- i think i have one of those laying around in a drawer already!
[08:40] <carlK> leigh, one more thing to try: sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/foo.img
[08:40] <mrkoje> leigh,  try this     sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[08:40] <cafuego> sampan: You'll be right, then.
[08:41] <carlK> leigh, see if that lights up the drive light
[08:41] <mrkoje> leigh,  mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[08:41] <dabaR> chalcedony: you will need to run: echo "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf, if you have not yet ran that after the reboot.
[08:41] <carlK> mrkoje, good idea too
[08:41] <eobanb> mrkoje, there should already be a floppy dir in /media/
[08:41] <mrkoje> leigh,  looks like msdos   fs  is really only for really
[08:41] <mrkoje> leigh,  ya you could use  /media/floppy  if its there...
[08:41] <chalcedony> dabaR: www.google.com could not be found. please check the name and try again.
[08:42] <sampan> cafuego, cool!  i suspect the powerbook would do me well then (and save me $800 as opposed to the super-expensive ultra-light sony, for the "price" of an extra pound and a half of weight)
[08:42] <mrkoje> leigh,  just remember what you mount it too.. the point is to try and use    the  mount -t vfat     instead of   mount -t msdos
[08:42] <dabaR> chalcedony: then you need to add the nameserver again, it seems. Please do that now.
[08:42] <chalcedony> dabaR: ok ty
[08:43] <JonasNorman> silverton: it worked for me
[08:43] <dabaR> using the above command, then tell me whether you can browse the web aftrer you test.
[08:43] <JonasNorman> silverton: but not in system > storage
[08:43] <leigh> mrkoje, Tried sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/foo.img   still waiting for timeout.
[08:44] <jenda> where can I find .bashrc?
[08:44] <ilba7r> jenda in your home folder
[08:44] <dabaR> jenda: "touch ~/.bashrc" and then in your home folder.
[08:44] <sampan> jenda, in your home directory ... might have to enable "show hidden files" in nautilus or your file manager
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc ? gnn,,,
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> I cant recall ever seeuing that befor.
[08:44] <mrkoje> leigh,  is your floppy drive showing any signs of life? Is the light on? Making any noise?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> or am i thinking .bash_profile
[08:45] <jenda> ilba7r, sampan, dabaR thanks
[08:45] <leigh> carlK, Tried sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/foo.img   still waiting for timeout.
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> :) ack its 3 am - no wonder i am tired. and not thiinking straight. lol    Night
[08:46] <Toba> ...why did dist-upgrade to 5.10 downgrade my JVM to 1.4.2?
[08:46] <tga> hey.. gnome-session gives me a load of ICE errors and Gnome won't work anymore.. any idea how to fix this?
[08:47] <chalcedony> dabaR ok did
[08:47] <chalcedony>  echo "nameserver 192.168.3.1" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[08:47] <chalcedony> nameserver 192.168.3.1
[08:47] <chalcedony> www.google.com could not be found. please check the name and try again.
[08:47] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, OK did try making folder fred in my home and using that -  didn't work.
[08:47] <dabaR> chalcedony: is that could not be found from a ping?
[08:47] <mrkoje> leigh,  you might also try mounting it read only.... if the floppy has that little plastic switch turned on...
[08:47] <silverton> JonasNorman, then where?
[08:47] <JonasNorman> silverton: 'dabaR silverton: under nautilus desktop, look for that, I am in console'
[08:47] <carlK> leigh, tail /var/log/messages - see if there are any errrors
[08:47] <tga> _IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[08:47] <mrkoje> leigh,  or just making sure the switch is turned off..
[08:47] <silverton> kk
[08:48] <silverton> thx
[08:48] <chalcedony> dabaR: could not be found from firefox
[08:48] <JonasNorman> silverton: in nautilus desktop, the only option was disable volume icons
[08:48] <chalcedony> i'll try ping
[08:48] <Toba> meh, I guess nobody knows
[08:48] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, OK did try /mnt/floppy.   can't remember if it was 0 or 1 or just floppy whats the difference.?
[08:48] <kargath64> heya ppl
[08:48] <mrkoje> leigh,  fd0 would be your first floppy and fd1 would be your second floppy
[08:48] <jenda> and where is .inputrc? It's not in me home folder.
[08:48] <JonasNorman> silverton: so my cd and thumbdrive do not show on the desktop
[08:48] <kargath64> just a quick question
[08:48] <chalcedony> dabaR: ping: unknown host www.google.com
[08:48] <mrkoje> leigh,  its a rather large difference
[08:48] <JonasNorman> silverton: a trade off
[08:48] <kargath64> how do I dial my modem in ubuntu
[08:49] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, OK I only tried msdos I'll try vfat
[08:49] <mrkoje> leigh,  I recommend that you read the book   "Rute User Tutorial"
[08:49] <mrkoje> leigh,  google for  rute user tutorial.... its a really good 660 page reference..
[08:49] <dabaR> chalcedony: hm...it worked before. "cat /etc/resolv.conf" shows the nameserver 192.168.3.1 line?
[08:49] <kargath64> anyone?
[08:50] <dabaR> kargath64: search for ppp in your installation program.
[08:50] <KaRupT> Anyone good with apache?
[08:50] <owner989> how do i install dockapps in fluxbox
[08:51] <chalcedony> dabaR: zsh: no such file or directory: cat/etc/resolv.conf
[08:51] <owner989> they are in the repositories
[08:51] <dabaR> chalcedony: you need a space after cat.
[08:51] <KaRupT> I just got my DNS finally working and now my apache is actin weird
[08:51] <kargath64> dabaR: do you mean synaptic?
[08:51] <chalcedony> oh ok dabaR :)
[08:51] <dabaR> kargath64: if that is what you use.
[08:52] <tga> broken Gnome anyone? ICE errors?
[08:52] <kargath64> but how do i DIAL?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> kargath64: gnome-ppp ?  wvdial??
[08:52] <kargath64> i'll try those
[08:52] <chalcedony> dabaR #Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver (3) genreated by resolvconf(8)   #  DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN   VIR%
[08:53] <dabaR> chalcedony: this is on the Ubuntu?
[08:53] <chalcedony> (typoes were mine)
[08:53] <chalcedony> yes
[08:53] <owner989> if i type apt-cache search dock app | grep wm i get a list of dockapps
[08:53] <owner989> but how do i install them
 kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler
[08:53] <Toba> o_0
[08:54] <azza211> that's my problem?
[08:54] <Toba> http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/gui_broken.png
[08:54] <Toba> DANGER WILL ROBINSON
[08:54] <Toba> GUI FUXORED
[08:54] <leigh> carlK, Ok, I think I might have got that one. OK I'll have a read.
[08:54] <Toba> I just started a dist-upgrade and it's doing this now
[08:54] <Toba> is that... normal?
[08:54] <owner989> you should have exited the gui while doing a dist upgrade
[08:55] <owner989> ctrl alt f1
[08:55] <owner989> and then init 3
[08:55] <owner989> or something
[08:55] <azza211> dabar any ideas?
[08:55] <Toba> owner989: will it *break* anything, or will stuff just not work right?
[08:55] <dabaR> azza211: no, I dont know how to fix that.
[08:55] <dabaR> chalcedony: try running the echo command again, then the cat command, and tell me whether yuo see changes.
[08:55] <owner989> i dont know toba, are you upgrading from a previous ubuntu
[08:55] <Toba> yes
[08:55] <azza211> does anyone know how to fix this problem
[08:55] <Toba> hoary to beezy
[08:55] <Toba> azza211: no
[08:55] <Toba> sorry
[08:56] <chalcedony> dabaR: ok
[08:56] <jenda> Where is my .inputrc? It's not in the home folder.
[08:56] <Toba> wait hoary is 5.04 right?
[08:56] <Toba> because that's what I had
[08:56] <Madpilot> Toba: yeah, Hoary is 5.04, Breezy is 5.10
[08:56] <Lukian> Inserting a Dvd movie.. "Totem could not start up. The video output is in use by another application."
[08:56] <ilba7r> jenda you might need to create one
[08:56] <Toba> hrm
[08:56] <Toba> I hope this doesn't totally screw my system up...
[08:56] <owner989> lukian i reccommend getting vlc
[08:56] <jenda> ilba7r: OK :)
[08:56] <Lukian> owner989: got it.
[08:57] <Toba> because I can't really get out of gui without halting the upgrade halfway
[08:57] <Lukian> it doesn't do anything :/
[08:57] <chalcedony> dabaR: i did both, same reply .
[08:57] <owner989> try killall totem
[08:57] <owner989> or killall mplayer
[08:57] <chalcedony> i wonder if the echo command i used is correct?
[08:57] <Lukian> owner989: neither were running
[08:57] <owner989> look in the resource manager to see which tasks are running or type top in the console
[08:58] <Lukian> vlc seems to be working now with open directory :)
[08:58] <owner989> i hate totems interface
[08:58] <Lukian> heh
[08:58] <Lukian> totem had crashed with 100% cpu
[08:58] <guptan> I have Belkin USB WIFI F5d7050, but system freezes when I try to configure it from Gnome->System->Administration->Networking
[08:59] <Toba> the most useless thing in the world: a web browser that shows only formatting and graphics but no text
[08:59] <chalcedony> dabaR: OK now it's looking better.. i didn't have a space after nameserver
[08:59] <owner989> toba you have that problem?
[08:59] <Toba> well I'm in the middle of a distupgrade
[08:59] <Toba> which I should not be doing while in gui
[08:59] <Toba> from what I hear :)
[08:59] <leigh> mrkoje, little plastic read-only thingy on floppy is doing fine. Thanks for asking.
[08:59] <chalcedony> after cat it came back with nameserver 192.168.3.1
[08:59] <dabaR> chalcedony: what does the /etc/resolv.conf file look like? only the one line about nameserver 192...?
[09:00] <dabaR> OK, great.
[09:00] <owner989> well i think its better not to do it while x is running but you can do it
[09:00] <dabaR> I think then you can browse, please test.
[09:00] <chalcedony> yes :))
[09:01] <dabaR> chalcedony: OK, try this then "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" be wary of typos, please.
[09:01] <icbu> hello, all. Just wondering if anyone can perhaps assist me with intalling gnomebaker...
[09:01] <icbu> I have installed it from synaptic
[09:01] <icbu> refreshed the gnome-panel
[09:01] <dabaR> is "be wary" even english?
[09:01] <icbu> but can't find it...
[09:01] <Madpilot> icbu: Applications menu --> Sound & Video --> Gnomebaker
[09:02] <owner989> k3b is also a good cd burn program
[09:02] <icbu> Madpilot: thank you! I guess that's why http://ubuntuguide.org/#gnomebaker is the "unoffical" guide :)
[09:02] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, /var/log/messages  Shows several lines of I/O error dev fd0, sector 3, and  other sectors.
[09:03] <dabaR> wtheck is up with the cheesy baker reference for burning CDs, anyhow?
[09:03] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[09:03] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[09:03] <icbu> yeah, thanks. :)
[09:03] <dabaR> seems ubotu got polite on ubuntuguide.
[09:03] <Madpilot> icbu: also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:04] <rob1> heh yeah
[09:04] <dabaR> hey, Madpilot what are you doing? I mean, whats going on there where you are...
[09:04] <owner989> but ubuntuguide is still more complete in many ways
[09:05] <rob1> owner989, only because a lot of redundant crap was cut out
[09:05] <dabaR> Really? Haven't read it in a long time. Haven't ever read the official guide.
[09:05] <demon71> So I have another issue, can anyone help? " make[3] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[09:05] <demon71> /bin/sh ../../admin/mkinstalldirs /usr/local/kde/share/doc/HTML/en/k9copy
[09:05] <demon71> mkdir -p -- /usr/local/kde/share/doc/HTML/en/k9copy
[09:05] <demon71> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/kde': Permission denied"
[09:05] <rob1> heh
[09:06] <rob1> use sudo
[09:06] <mrkoje> leigh,  you mind paste bin that log file... just the part with the fd0 errors?
[09:06] <Madpilot> dabaR: not sure what you mean?
[09:06] <dabaR> Madpilot: what are you up to...
[09:06] <chalcedony> dabaR: chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[09:07] <Madpilot> dabaR: I'm hanging out, trying to figure out MySQL, and not doing much else at this instant...
[09:07] <demon71> thanks...
[09:07] <grivell> Anyone know of someone releasing 2.6.15 prerelease kernel bootcd's ?  My via VT8251 chipset is going to be in 2.6.15 and I need it to use SATA.
[09:08] <dabaR> Madpilot: did you read the manual on their page? it is pretty good. There is a #mysql too...
[09:08] <SexBOY> HI !!
[09:08] <rob1> Madpilot, this might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:09] <Madpilot> dabaR: I'm reading all sorts of docs on MySQL right now... :P
[09:09] <Madpilot> rob1: I wrote significant parts of that :P
[09:09] <rob1> heh
[09:09] <dabaR> heh
[09:09] <dabaR> chalcedony: sec, we'll see what we can do.
[09:09] <rob1> you should be the local expert..
[09:10] <chalcedony> dabaR: you're awesome ty very much :)
[09:10] <rob1> Madpilot, what are you trying to do with it?
[09:10] <Madpilot> rob1: installing it is easy; using it is another matter
[09:10] <rob1> nah, its about as plain english as it gets in computer apps
[09:10] <max_c> can someone tell me or point me to some help getting .avi files to play.
[09:11] <Madpilot> rob1: trying to get mysqldump to dump a backup, and it's not recognizing the pw I'm sure I used to create the database
[09:11] <dabaR> chalcedony: it works here. are you sure you are typing "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf"?
[09:11] <rob1> Madpilot, try myphpadmin, very good
[09:11] <chalcedony> dabaR: ahhh i have a bigger space after +i
[09:11] <leigh> carlK, burepe, mrkoje, Ok, I think I found it, the cable had been knocked loose ( I wonder who did that?) . Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.
[09:12] <dabaR> chalcedony: usually will not matter, though, whitespace is usually irrelevant. It should not give you any feedback, the command if it is successful.
[09:13] <chalcedony> dabaR:  Usage: chattr {-RV]  [-+=AacDdijsSu]  [-v version]  files...
[09:13] <Madpilot> rob1: yeah, I need to get phpmyadmin set up too... blah... right now I need sleep :P
[09:14] <chalcedony> that was with NO space.. 1 space or 2 .. gives the previous message.
[09:14] <mrkoje> burepe,  I knew it sounded like a hardware problme
[09:14] <rob1> heh don't try to learn new stuff late at night..
[09:14] <dabaR> chalcedony: you need to type in the exact thing I typed in. Why do we not do this... visit http://dabar.selfip.org/chattr on the Ubuntu computer, and copy and paste what you see there into the terminal.
[09:15] <chalcedony> dabaR: splendid
[09:17] <chalcedony> dabaR: i did visit that url. and copy pasted exactly. chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[09:19] <dabaR> Ok, then, in Ubuntu, "cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf" and post that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, please.
[09:19] <platos> hi, can anyone tel me how to configure my dhcp-server so that my clients automatically get an dynamically generated hostname/
[09:20] <chalcedony> dabaR: gosh lots of stuff starting with #s
[09:20] <chalcedony> !!
[09:20] <ubotu> ??
[09:21] <benplaut> anyone know why flipping the panel sideways would not flip taskbar text sideways? i thought it was fixed in 2.12?
[09:21] <benplaut> !ubotu
[09:21] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:22] <benplaut> ok, you're working :)
[09:22] <platos> !dhcp3-server
[09:22] <ubotu> platos: Are you on ritalin?
[09:23] <dabaR> chalcedony: can you post the file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org from the Ubuntu machine?
[09:23] <benplaut> yeah, he is -_-
[09:23] <chalcedony> dabaR: let me see
[09:23] <GTroy> has anyone used 3desktop?
[09:24] <benplaut> GTroy: a bit
[09:24] <GTroy> benplaut: will it work on a dual head?
[09:25] <benplaut> GTroy: try and see ;)
[09:26] <chalcedony> dabaR: done
[09:28] <GTroy> benplaut: I do have a real question though
[09:28] <benplaut> yeah?
[09:28] <GTroy> I have a external 160gb hd
[09:28] <GTroy> formatted for my ibook
[09:29] <GTroy> I can load stuff onto it, but can't access all my files
[09:29] <benplaut> no clue
[09:29] <GTroy> you don't think I could use chmod, or chown?
[09:30] <GTroy> they are open folders on the ibook
[09:30] <GTroy> errr shared folders
[09:30] <Lukian> any ideas why azureus wouldn't be connecting to anything, yet gnome bittorrent works fine?
[09:30] <platos> hm ibook, doesnt apple uses linux for their newest os
[09:30] <GTroy> Lukian: I can't use two downloads at once
[09:31] <GTroy> like klibido and bittornado
[09:31] <Lukian> platos: darwin, which is unix into the bsd tree.
[09:31] <Lukian> GTroy: nope, i'm only running one at once
[09:31] <GTroy> and you set the preferences?
[09:31] <platos> Lukian: aha, well i've only heard of it on the news that it looks a lot like linux
[09:32] <GTroy> like kde
[09:32] <Lukian> GTroy: ?
[09:32] <shteeve> oh ick... if i want to dual boot with osx, does the partition order matter? ie, right now i have my osx partition and then my free space... but just read something that says the free space partition needed to come first. :S
[09:32] <GTroy> last line was to platos
[09:33] <dabaR> chalcedony: view my post on the pastebin, it will be shown on the right if you refresh. Then follow the instructions on line 54 and below. In your file, include up to line 52.
[09:34] <Khisanth> hmm more like the other way around ;)
[09:34] <platos> Gtroy: lol cool, should get myself a mac sometime
[09:34] <chalcedony> ok
[09:34] <chalcedony> dabaR: ty very much :)
[09:34] <GTroy> yeah, they're nice
[09:34] <GTroy> ubuntu is funner though
[09:35] <GTroy> there's no e17 for osx
[09:37] <dabaR> chalcedony: then test browsing the web, and tell me whether it works, please.
[09:37] <shteeve> e17?
[09:37] <chalcedony> dabaR i refreshed and do not see anything but my paste?
[09:37] <chalcedony> Perhaps you could post yours (with markers by the lines?) to http://dabar.selfip.org/chattr ? ~
[09:38] <RiverRat> shteeve: Enlightement version 0.17.0.
[09:38] <shteeve> ahh... i could use some elightenment
[09:39] <chalcedony> dabaR: would it be in the paste window below my text?
[09:39] <dabaR> he number is 5949
[09:41] <GTroy> benplaut: I figured it out
[09:41] <GTroy> benplaut: I used sudo chmod -R 755 folder
[09:41] <chalcedony> dabaR: /me counts lines in the paste bin..
[09:42] <dabaR> chalcedony: they are not numbereed?
[09:42] <dabaR> basicaklly...
[09:42] <benplaut> GTroy: yeah... folder/file permissions are the cause of so many problems....
[09:42] <dabaR> the ------------- line is line 53...
[09:42] <cvt> which would u choose: p4 3gHz 1.256mB ram 64mB vram; amd64 3200 2gB ram 128gB vram; pentium M 2gHz 2gB ram 128mB vram?
[09:42] <dabaR> chalcedony: did you ever get to my post?
[09:43] <GTroy> benplaut: easy to remember for other problems too!
[09:43] <chalcedony> dabaR: i am not sure if it is your post in the paste window below where it shows mine. the lines do not show with numbers.
[09:44] <Khisanth> 256 millibyte?
[09:44] <cvt> 1gB + 256mB sorry
[09:44] <netstalker> is anyone aware of a problem with 5.10 installing on MSI motherboards with onboard video and sound?
[09:45] <demon71> Help with ejecting CD, " Eject /dev/hdc failed!"
[09:45] <cvt> yes, well with my pc
[09:45] <Madpilot> demon71: try "sudo eject"
[09:46] <demon71> Madpilot: Thanks, that worked... Why would it usually give an error like that?
[09:46] <shteeve> d'oh! "The new dual-core machines contain a new bridge chip and new video cards which are not yet supported by Linux."
[09:47] <netstalker> ahhh thanks thats got to be it
[09:47] <Madpilot> demon71: no idea; I've had some audio CDs that wouldn't eject gracefully, though...
[09:48] <demon71> oh well, thanks again though...
[09:48] <dabaR> chalcedony: It is in the pastebin. the URL is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5949 try what it says there. If after following all commands it works, it will work. If not, run "sudo cp /etc/dhcp3/dhclient_backup /etc/dhcp3/dhclient/dhclient.conf" I must go to bed. Good luck. Im off right away. you can pm me after whether it worked or not, and so on, the irc will stay on.
[09:48] <Madpilot> need sleep... later, all
[09:48] <cvt> shteeve, how do i know if it's dual core?
[09:48] <Atlas95> j'ai un petit truc qui me perturbe, est ce normal que quand j'edit un truc avec gedit, dans la console j'ai des message du genre :
[09:48] <Atlas95> [atlas@ubuntu-atlas:~]  $ gedit .FRAGOPS
[09:48] <Atlas95> (gedit:29386): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libcdda.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libcdda.so: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partag: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type)
[09:48] <Madpilot> !fr
[09:48] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:48] <Madpilot> !paste
[09:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:49] <Madpilot> ... and on that note, good night, all! :)
[09:49] <shteeve> cvt: i was talking about powerpc dual core machines
[09:49] <dabaR> see ya
[09:49] <icbu> later
[09:49] <platos> Does anyone know how to automatically assign hostnames through the dhcp3-server ?
[09:50] <cregr> help with install on RAID1 with dual boot for Winxp and ubuntu???
[09:53] <cregr> always fails after install on first reboot... grub doesn't work...?
[09:54] <guillaume_> bonjour tout le monde
[09:55] <guillaume_> j'ai un petit soucis avec un partage samba...
[09:55] <guillaume_> lorsque je le monte via fstab
[09:55] <Lukian> where's the configuration for startup services (ie. disabling bluetooth and other crap) ?
[09:56] <platos> !fr
[09:56] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:56] <guillaume_> nautilus et le terminal gnome n affiche pas es caractere accentu...
[09:56] <guillaume_> ok merci
[09:59] <cregr> anyone help with difficult install on RAID1 with dual boot (winxp).... fails after install on first reboot
[10:01] <webwolf_27> cregr: describe fails. What error do you get
[10:02] <cregr> if winxp partition is active - it boots with no grub; if linux partition is active I get something like "error loading operating system"
[10:03] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[10:03] <shadox> shadox is back
[10:03] <NoWhereMan> need to compile usbatm driver on a breezy; i don't have internet connection so i have to d/l packages manually
[10:03] <NoWhereMan> SOMNIVM, I need kbuild e kconfig
[10:03] <shadox> with my next question :D  can someone give me the page for the "easy sources"
[10:04] <NoWhereMan> what packages should i d7L?
[10:04] <webwolf_27> cregr: this means grub is not installed on the proper MBR and the menu.lst needs to be configure to point to the proper drive
[10:04] <NoWhereMan> sorry for the typos, I'm on late
[10:04] <cregr> thanks.... how do I do that?
[10:04] <Chameleon22> i just purchased an AGP slot vidoe card and also have one inbuilt into the mobo, can someone point me in the right direction in regards to making a dual head system? already have everything connected, just need to configure now.
[10:05] <shadox> !easysources
[10:05] <ubotu> shadox: Syntax error in line 1
[10:05] <cregr> problem is I've never been able to boot into ubuntu to edit anything....
[10:05] <webwolf_27> cregr: are all your drives on a a raid?
[10:05] <shadox> whoeps :D  can someone give me the url for the easysources ?
[10:06] <webwolf_27> cregr: editing can be done on a live cd OR in the grub menu
[10:06] <cregr> yes - hardware raid... then I configure software raid during ubuntu installation - only of the drives for ubuntu and swap
[10:06] <Moodles> I just upgraded my machine, from a p3-450 to a p4 2.4, and I loaded ubuntu and right now my console is being spammed with "hdb: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)"
[10:06] <anandaputra> is there any Community Council meeting today??
[10:06] <webwolf_27> cregr: edits in the grub menu are not permenant though
[10:06] <cregr> how do you access the grub menu?
[10:07] <webwolf_27> cregr: when the linux partition is active you get grub right?
[10:07] <cregr> nope - just an error...
[10:07] <cregr> won't boot
[10:07] <steele> hi, why isn't every program showed in the application gnome menue? is there a way to add, for example klogic isn't there, but oregano... thx if you can aide me..
[10:08] <webwolf_27> cregr: ok then one thing after anouther. First grub needs to be installed to sda
[10:09] <cregr> at the end of the install it asks if I want to install grub... no other options on how to or where to....?
[10:09] <steele> is there a way to complete the application menue, that, for example, klogic is show there?
[10:10] <webwolf_27> cregr: those options are hidden on most distro's. do you have a rescue cd? the ubuntu cd should do the trick
[10:10] <cregr> I have the ubuntu ISO CD
[10:11] <webwolf_27> brb
[10:11] <steele> noone knows how to add the missing programs in the application menue :-(
[10:12] <Lukian> system tools -> applications menu editor?
[10:12] <thefish> anyone know how ssh-agent is started in ubuntu?
[10:13] <thefish> ( i dont mean how do i start it, apparently it is started automatically, i want to know what does this)
[10:13] <steele> to Lukian: this I want to be there aren't shown...
[10:13] <webwolf_27> cregr: you will need to boot from the cd into rescue mode ( if I remember right type linux rescue at the prompt )
[10:13] <Lukian> steele: add it.
[10:14] <mrkoje> steele,  there is a gnome menu editor... cli   though I can't remember the command
[10:14] <webwolf_27> cregr: then chroot into your linux root partition and type grub-install /dev/sda
[10:14] <cregr> doing that...
[10:15] <cregr> I don't think "linux rescue: did it... went back into normal install
[10:16] <webwolf_27> cregr: what exactly did you type?
[10:16] <cregr> "linux rescue" no quotes
[10:18] <webwolf_27> cregr: odd, on most distro's thats correct. does it give you the opertunity to press F* for more options?
[10:18] <cregr> y - F1 for all the different options... I don't see any rescue type option though...
[10:18] <goliat> hello there
[10:19] <goliat> anybody has any Idea About ONAK
[10:19] <goliat> ?
[10:19] <webwolf_27> cregr: do you have any other linux cd's there?
[10:19] <goliat> pls query me if u got any hint
[10:19] <cregr> mepis
[10:19] <webwolf_27> cregr: mepis is a live-cd right
[10:20] <cregr> mepis is live - yes
[10:20] <webwolf_27> cregr: do you know how to chroot
[10:20] <cregr> no
[10:21] <webwolf_27> cregr: hmmm ok boot from mepis
[10:23] <webwolf_27> cregr: let me know when its booted up
[10:24] <cregr> it is done... at login screen
[10:25] <webwolf_27> cregr: ok login and start a terminal
[10:25] <whatever> hi all
[10:26] <whatever> damm
[10:26] <cregr> ok - terminal open
[10:26] <webwolf_27> cregr: then type fdisk -l for a list of all the partitions/drives
[10:27] <cregr> list is here
[10:27] <webwolf_27> cregr: whats the first entry
[10:28] <cregr> lists both HDs seperately... first entry for first disk is /dev/sda1   (winXP drive)
[10:29] <webwolf_27> cregr: ok then grub needs to be installed to /dev/sda
[10:30] <webwolf_27> cregr: whats the first linux partition (not swap)
[10:30] <webwolf_27> hopefully someone can take over for me soon, I need to get ready to go pick up my daughter
[10:31] <cregr> ... /dev/sda3 ... does it matter that there is sdb1 as well?
[10:31] <webwolf_27> cregr: how big is sda3?
[10:32] <darkness> Hello, everyone.
[10:32] <cregr> 17GB
[10:32] <webwolf_27> cregr: ok mount sda3
[10:32] <darkness> I was wondering if any of you could help me installing a newer version of FF then the default one in ubuntu 5.10
[10:32] <cregr> k
[10:33] <webwolf_27> cregr: then type chroot <dir sda3 is mounted to>
[10:33] <steele> thx 4 help, the command to change the Application entries is: smeg ... long life to Linus T.
[10:34] <GTroy> darkness: here's a good link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:35] <darkness> Gtroy, i've tried that How to and it wouldn't work. I got errors when i tried to install it.
[10:35] <cregr> ok
[10:35] <GTroy> darkness: what kind of errors?
[10:35] <cregr> chroot done
[10:35] <GTroy> and don't post please
[10:36] <darkness> after i typed in the cp.... and everything i got this message : cp: cannot stat `firefox-1.5.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[10:36] <GTroy> you're not in the right directory
[10:37] <webwolf_27> cregr: got it?
[10:37] <GTroy> darkness: you're using gnome right?
[10:37] <cregr> yup
[10:37] <ercueva> hi I have some troubles using ubuntu in my toshiba laptop.... The wireless LAN don't work
[10:37] <darkness> Yes, that what i thought untill i checked. The file is in Home and thats where i was trying to install it from... Yes i'm using gnome.
[10:37] <webwolf_27> cregr: good, now type grub-install /dev/sda
[10:38] <ercueva> toshiba L20-101, ubuntu 5.10
[10:38] <GTroy> try it after you go "cd /home"
[10:38] <darkness> I'm already there.
[10:38] <GTroy> and you can't copy it?
[10:39] <GTroy> type ls
[10:39] <GTroy> and look for the file
[10:39] <ercueva> any laptop user???
[10:39] <webwolf_27> ercueva, probably several
[10:39] <GTroy> it might be you typed it wrong :(
[10:40] <darkness> Could be. I typed ls and the only thing that is there is Darkness. Which is my user name.
[10:40] <ercueva> webwolf, do you have any idea about using wireless on a laptop?
[10:40] <darkness> Could it be that i copied the file from my desktop to there?
[10:40] <GTroy> there are two /home folders
[10:40] <webwolf_27> ercueva, nope, mines wired
[10:40] <ercueva> I'm not able to use it, it doesn't work using ubuntu 5.10
[10:41] <darkness> Two home folders?
[10:41] <webwolf_27> ok I'm out folks, my daughter won't wait forever and she comes first
[10:41] <GTroy> darkness: yeah
[10:41] <ercueva> webwolf, do you know where I could go to find information to fix the problem?
[10:41] <webwolf_27> ercueva, google
[10:41] <cregr> webwolf_27: I was disconnected... sorry...
[10:42] <cregr> you have been helpful... thanks...
[10:42] <darkness> GTroy: Then how do i cd to the right one? I need the newer browser....
[10:42] <ercueva> webwolf, nice, good help...:-P
[10:42] <GTroy> darkness: don't worry it's not to hard to find
[10:42] <webwolf_27> cregr: I appoligize also, I need to go
[10:42] <GTroy> darkness: type ls
[10:42] <GTroy> darkness: you should see only one file
[10:42] <darkness> GTroy: I found it.
[10:42] <GTroy> then cd /that folder
[10:42] <cregr> webwolf.... what is the general idea now... edit menu1st?
[10:43] <GTroy> ok now type ls
[10:43] <cregr> or re-install grub?
[10:43] <darkness> GTroy: I'll be back in a moment. I'm going to go and follow the installation guide on wiki.ubuntu
[10:43] <webwolf_27> cregr: after grub-install /dev/sda you should at least get grub, make sure boot/grub/menu.lst that root is set root(hd0,2)
[10:43] <GTroy> you should have it then, good luck
[10:44] <GTroy> darkness: let me know if you have any problems
[10:45] <shadox> :( still having probs with my mounted windows partions :s
[10:46] <GTroy> shadox: can you change permissions?
[10:46] <shadox> GTroy how do i change them :$
[10:46] <shadox> GTroy, in properties, i can't change anything
[10:47] <shadox> GTroy, i got 2 partitions, only one is recognized, "0 gb harddisk (mdh5)"
[10:47] <GTroy> shadox: open terminal and type " sudo chmod -R 755 (folder name)
[10:48] <GTroy> that's cause you can't write to it
[10:51] <darkness> Gtroy: How do i delete the old firefox version without stuffing up the knew one?
[10:53] <nic_nic> hi
[10:53] <JekylDucky> noc_noc
[10:53] <shadox> GTroy, i think i format again
[10:53] <JekylDucky> (/WHOIS there)
[10:53] <shadox> GTroy brb :)
[10:53] <nic_nic> does anybody know where gnome save the keyboard layout
[10:54] <redhook> nic_nic: click Desktop, Preferences
[10:54] <nic_nic> i need the config file
[10:54] <redhook> nic_nic: unless you're thinking of the xorg kbd layout which is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:54] <JekylDucky> no., nic_nic but if I were looking for it. I'd try searching for 'xkb' under your x directories
[10:54] <nic_nic> where keycode 104 = Left is
[10:54] <darkness> how would i know if i had installed the new firefox correctly?
[10:55] <GTroy> darkness: open it up
[10:55] <eobanb> if you type 'firefox' and it runs
[10:55] <JekylDucky> darkness, can you load HTML pages?
[10:55] <JekylDucky> ;-)
[10:56] <Badm4n> i have prob here... ubuntu 5.10 /... how to make named auto run when server rebooting ?
[10:57] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about named
[10:57] <GTroy> darkness: if you want open firefox click help, then click "about"
[10:58] <Atlas95> hello
[10:58] <darkness> GTroyL I can open webspages, load html. But everything looks the same.
[10:58] <Atlas95> someone use Aegis virus scanner?
[10:58] <Atlas95> i'm searching for reconfigure it
[10:58] <Atlas95> I don't find the command or file I must edit :/
[10:58] <GTroy> darkness: did you try the help--about ?
[10:58] <darkness> What in?
[10:58] <GTroy> firefox
[10:59] <darkness> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
[10:59] <darkness> Says the below it, so i take it that it is 1.5
[10:59] <Badm4n> i have prob here... ubuntu 5.10 /... how to make named auto run when server rebooting ?
[10:59] <GTroy> that's the newest version darkness
[11:00] <darkness> Only thing is, where is the options? I need to be able to turn of javascript and things like that.
[11:00] <Atlas95> hey, can you answer to me please??!
[11:00] <GTroy> you have to install java 1.4
[11:00] <GTroy> and the mozilla plug
[11:00] <GTroy> *plugin*
[11:01] <Atlas95> say me yes or no....
[11:01] <GTroy> patience Atlas95
[11:01] <phrizer> anyone know how i can tell firefox to display .cpp and .h and other text files in itself, rather than bring up the save/open dialog?
[11:02] <darkness> Oh no... I've tried install java before. It'sda  bitch. I can live without it.
[11:02] <Atlas95> :'(
[11:02] <Atlas95> I have a aegisrc file in my home but isn't the good file i search
[11:02] <pseudo_smartass> whats up this early morning peoples?
[11:02] <GTroy> darkness it's not hard
[11:02] <darkness> I just need to find the options tab anyway, so i can turn of java script easily amongst itger things.
[11:02] <Badm4n> i have prob here... ubuntu 5.10 /... how to make named auto run when server rebooting ??
[11:02] <GTroy> Atlas95: I can't help you
[11:02] <RancidLM> any body get gtkpod 0.99 working in ubuntu?
[11:02] <darkness> Gtroy: Well, could you help me?
[11:03] <darkness> Gtroy: I;ve tried doing it before i updated ubuntu and couldn't get it to work.
[11:03] <GTroy> darkness I remember it being really easy
[11:03] <Atlas95> when i haev launch it the first time, it ask me, the path of my bin like tar, zip etc, but i must change one
[11:03] <pseudo_smartass> anyone have a dvd/cd-rw burner in their box?
[11:04] <GTroy> darkness: type this in terminal "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"
[11:04] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, just ask the question!
[11:05] <selinium> :)
[11:05] <GTroy> darkness: at the bottom of the page is where you want to go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:05] <GTroy> night everyone
[11:05] <Badm4n> i have prob here... ubuntu 5.10 /... how to make named auto run when server rebooting ??
[11:05] <pseudo_smartass> :) i cant get my burner recognized as a burner
[11:05] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, in breezy?
[11:05] <pseudo_smartass> switch sucks because i have alot of mp3s i need to put on dvd for backup
[11:06] <pseudo_smartass> yep
[11:06] <pseudo_smartass> how are u making the type red?
[11:06] <GTroy> by typing your nickname
[11:06] <darkness> Sorry about that, i was in the kitchin. I'm doin gthe apt-get install now
[11:06] <pseudo_smartass> selinium yep
[11:06] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, by typing your nick. It is easier and you know i am talking to you!
[11:06] <GTroy> darkness: look above for the link
[11:06] <pseudo_smartass> typing my nicki?
[11:06] <pseudo_smartass> nick
[11:06] <GTroy> I'm off to bed
[11:07] <Chameleon22> can someone help me to install a dual head system. New card I just poped in is nvidia geforce fx5200 (agp) and old one is SiS onboard (pci) ... dont even know where to start , like how do i get the system to detect the geforce card and then how to add thaht to the xorg to get dual system going ?
[11:07] <redhook> pseudo_smartass: your client highlight anything directed towards you
[11:07] <GTroy> pseudo_smartass: no their nickname
[11:07] <pseudo_smartass> lol bump that.... u see how long my name is?
[11:07] <alexissoft> hi
[11:07] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:07] <redhook> Losers On Line
[11:07] <pseudo_smartass> hows it hanging?
[11:07] <pseudo_smartass> or not hanging...
[11:07] <pseudo_smartass> whatever
[11:07] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:07] <redhook> Losers On Line
[11:07] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, if you type the first few letters of a nick ( pseudo_smartass for instance ) and you type tab, it will auto complet it.
[11:08] <pseudo_smartass> really?! i like that
[11:08] <redhook> pse:
[11:08] <pseudo_smartass> so yeah
[11:08] <Badm4n> i have prob here... ubuntu 5.10 /... how to make named auto run when server rebooting ?? :(
[11:08] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, do you think i keep typing your whole nick?   :)
[11:08] <pseudo_smartass> lol well i dont know how fast you type... maybe you were
[11:08] <pseudo_smartass> u could be bored too
[11:08] <pseudo_smartass> :P
[11:09] <darkness> GTroy, After i have fnished getting blackdown, will i need to do anything else?
[11:09] <irvin> Badm4n, named, the DNS daemon?
[11:09] <selinium> Badm4n, We heard you the first 4 times. Please don't repost so frequently, if someone can help they will. Otherwise its is a little annoying! :)
[11:09] <pseudo_smartass> so sel... u know how to make it get recognized as a burner?
[11:09] <Badm4n> :( oopss sorry
[11:09] <Badm4n> irvin,  yes
[11:09] <Chameleon22> anyone?
[11:10] <Badm4n> cause my named doesnt run automatically when server reboot
[11:10] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, what application are you using?
[11:10] <pseudo_smartass> nope cham... im someone... just not someone important
[11:10] <pseudo_smartass> i was trying to use serp
[11:10] <selinium> and you are trying to burn to DVD write?
[11:10] <selinium> s/write/right
[11:10] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about DNS Daemon
[11:10] <irvin> Badm4n, is it installed already? try navigating through System -> Administration -> Services
[11:10] <pseudo_smartass> but it said it cant find one and when i looked in the device manager its listed as "unknown"
[11:10] <irvin> and see if you could start it there
[11:10] <pseudo_smartass> dvd/cd... i dont care at this point
[11:11] <Badm4n> irvin, no progz there close to named
[11:11] <pseudo_smartass> figured i would have better luck with dvd because cd aint working
[11:11] <pseudo_smartass> i would like the cd working too though
[11:11] <darkness> What do you people prefer to program in for server side scripts?
[11:11] <pseudo_smartass> python
[11:11] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, so do you have two drives then?
[11:11] <pseudo_smartass> nope
[11:11] <pseudo_smartass> combo burner
[11:11] <pseudo_smartass> dvd/cd-rw
[11:12] <pseudo_smartass> unless u talking about hard drives and then yeah... 2 of them lol
[11:12] <darkness> How safe do you think is it for me to enable my www file (local host things) up to the world for short periods of time, say 20 minutes just to show someone a website?
[11:12] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, so it doesn't recognise your drive... ok, let me think...
[11:13] <pseudo_smartass> dark... should be ok as long as you haven't pissed many people off lately
[11:13] <irvin> Badm4n, from which package did you install it from?
[11:13] <pseudo_smartass> oh it sees it there and i can play burned cd's and data stuff
[11:13] <Badm4n> irvin,  i use apt-get install named
[11:13] <pseudo_smartass> it just wont burn
[11:13] <pseudo_smartass> it doesn't know its a burner or something
[11:13] <Chameleon22> does anyone know how to install a second vid card ? not dual just how to get geforce fx5200 (agp) detected by the system while using the onboard one (pci)?
[11:13] <darkness> Nah, I only want it open to show a few people my website i've been making. I would upload it to a free webserver but it has MySQL and php.
[11:14] <pseudo_smartass> unless its a dual i dont think both can be recognized
[11:14] <pseudo_smartass> ...
[11:14] <pseudo_smartass> could be wrong though
[11:14] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, does it run as a cd drive?
[11:14] <irvin> Badm4n, it seems i can't find it. sudo apt-cache search named returns
[11:14] <ben_underscore> darkness, that sounds quite reasonable
[11:14] <pseudo_smartass> yep sel
[11:14] <selinium> ok
[11:14] <pseudo_smartass> dark... u should be ok
[11:14] <irvin> Badm4n, it seems i can't find it. sudo apt-cache search named returns none including a search in packages.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# sudo apt-cache search named returns
[11:14] <Badm4n> libclass-factory-util-perl - Utility method for factory classes
[11:15] <pseudo_smartass> bimberi!!
[11:15] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:15] <selinium> darkness, install your own apache web server...
[11:15] <darkness> ben_underscore, what do you think would be the easiest way to do this? I just want the other person to be able to type my ip address, followed by the filename. Kinda like an ftp server.
[11:15] <bimberi> wow, there's a greeting!
[11:15] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:15] <darkness> I have apache, MySQL and PHP4 enable.
[11:15] <pseudo_smartass> well ur the only one i remember
[11:16] <pseudo_smartass> u and severeas
[11:16] <pseudo_smartass> and jenda
[11:16] <pseudo_smartass> but thats it i swear
[11:16] <selinium> darkness, I have obviously missed the questino!
[11:16] <pseudo_smartass> oh and a crimson sun
[11:16] <ben_underscore> darkness, so you want to open up your ubuntu machine to the net so ppl can see a html file?
[11:16] <bimberi> pseudo_smartass: riiiiight :)
[11:16] <Badm4n> :( no solution ?
[11:16] <pseudo_smartass> but other then them... ur the only one i remember
[11:16] <selinium> bimberi, pseudo_smartass has some burning issues :)
[11:16] <pseudo_smartass> i wouldn't call it an issue
[11:17] <darkness> Yes... But i want to be able to close it off. The files i want to show someone have a database, and php so i cannot upload it to a site, or send it to the other person.
[11:17] <pseudo_smartass> id say its quite a problem
[11:17] <pseudo_smartass> but thats just cuz its important to me lol
[11:17] <Papageno> How do I rid of everything Gnome? I got xubuntu-desktop and I want to use the KDE tools instead of the Gnome tools. Is getting rid of everything Gnome possible or at all advisable? If not, then how about most everything Gnome?
[11:17] <ben_underscore> darkness, what do you mean "close it off"
[11:17] <pseudo_smartass> someon bitched at me for saying lol too much before... whats wrong with being hyper/happy?
[11:17] <kemik> pseudo_smartass:  nothing wrong with that
[11:17] <cregr> anyone able to help fix grub on raid1 with dual boot (winxp)??
[11:17] <kemik> but personally i hate "lol"
[11:17] <selinium> pseudo_smartass,  type    cdrecord -prcap    in a term and paste bin it.
[11:18] <darkness> Well, I only want those files to be available to people some of the time. I effectly want to make a server. But only have it running when i want too.
[11:18] <kyncani> Papageno: use debfoster
[11:18] <kemik> and i really dislike people that says "LOL" in 'real life'
[11:18] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, I am a hyper exclamationist!!!!!!!!
[11:18] <pseudo_smartass> woot woot... sel is helping me :) BTW are u a dude/girl? i dont wanna call u the wrong thing lol
[11:18] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, asl? lol    Man of 31 years!
[11:19] <JekylDucky> pseudo_smartass, we *know* what you want -- LOLOLOL
[11:19] <ben_underscore> well in that case install firestarter, which is a really cool firewall. close off port 80 which is the one most http uses, then only open it when you want ppl to see the stuff you want
[11:19] <pseudo_smartass> know what i want?
[11:19] <pseudo_smartass> lol i want my burner working
[11:19] <Papageno> kyncani: I'll have a look at it. Thanks.
[11:19] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:19] <kemik> there are no open ports on ubuntu to begin with
[11:19] <kemik> no services running that are listening
[11:19] <pseudo_smartass> ok well then i CAN ask u hows it hanging lol
[11:19] <pseudo_smartass> ok... wheres that paste bin place again
[11:20] <ben_underscore> kemik, true but he has apache running
[11:20] <kemik> why have apache running if he doesnt wanna serve webpages? ;)
[11:20] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, [grin]  i am sat dwon at the mo....
[11:20] <kemik> hihi
[11:20] <pseudo_smartass> 23/m/minnesota ::says that last one with a fargo, ND accent
[11:20] <pseudo_smartass> haha sel
[11:20] <JekylDucky> heh-heh
[11:20] <darkness> Ben_underscore, i have firestarter, but how do i open port 80 and close it?
[11:20] <pseudo_smartass> hey jek... asl?
[11:20] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:21] <pseudo_smartass> selinium, where was that pastebin thing
[11:21] <JekylDucky> pseudo_smartass, 13/married-hermaphrodite/Amundsen-Scott, Antarctica
[11:21] <pseudo_smartass> man im like totally rocking out to this song
[11:21] <pseudo_smartass> lol im gonna be late for work
[11:21] <pseudo_smartass> that sucks but oh well
[11:21] <JekylDucky> Are you sure you're 'pseudo'?!?
[11:21] <cregr> anyone able to help fix grub (won't boot after install) on raid1 with dual boot (winxp)??
[11:21] <JekylDucky> rockabye nalioth in the tree root...
[11:22] <pseudo_smartass> yeah... not really... but it gives people a misunderstanding which works to my strong points :)
[11:22] <ben_underscore> darkness, hang on
[11:22] <pseudo_smartass> selinium,  u there man?
[11:22] <JekylDucky> When the bough breaks the cradle-2.6.112-10-initrd.tgz will boot
[11:23] <bimberi> pseudo_smartass: pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:23] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, sorry phone....
[11:23] <pseudo_smartass> thanks bimberi
[11:23] <JekylDucky> selinium, is that worse than a banana phone?
[11:24] <nalioth> who called me?
[11:24] <pseudo_smartass> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5952
[11:24] <pseudo_smartass> there u go selinium
[11:24] <pseudo_smartass> i really really fucking like that auto complete tab thing
[11:24] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:25] <nalioth> pseudo_smartass: please watch your language, your nick is offensive enough
[11:25] <irvin> +1 nalioth
[11:25] <pseudo_smartass> sorry about the f word... but whats with my nick is bad enough...
[11:25] <paines> hi
[11:25] <cregr> anyone able to help fix grub (won't boot after install) on raid1 with dual boot (winxp)??
[11:25] <pseudo_smartass> because it says @ss?
[11:26] <pseudo_smartass> cregr... changing the mbr or just the list?
[11:26] <darkness> Well, toodles people. I'm going to let this download.
[11:26] <darkness> I'm sure i'll be back later
[11:26] <pseudo_smartass> selinium,  you looking at the pastey?
[11:26] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:26] <pseudo_smartass> pastey... thats funny
[11:26] <cregr> not sure... fails on boot up... never gets into grub...
[11:27] <pseudo_smartass> really....
[11:27] <pseudo_smartass> for windows or linux?
[11:27] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, still on phone...
[11:27] <paines> i would like to add the emacs-snapshot packge from debian-unstable to ubuntu. howto start that ? are their tutorials ?
[11:27] <pseudo_smartass> rapido rapido
[11:27] <pseudo_smartass> lol
[11:27] <cregr> I can boot windows when partition is active but when linux is active it fails booting
[11:27] <pseudo_smartass> hmmm...
[11:29] <pseudo_smartass> what are the partitions? ext3?
[11:29] <cregr> yup
[11:29] <selinium> pseudo_smartass, [mum on phone] ....
[11:29] <pseudo_smartass> oh... well in that case sel...
[11:30] <pseudo_smartass> ill let you talk to her lol
[11:30] <siorai> Is there a way that I can pull off *.cue sheets from the freedb and save em to my harddrive as well as upload new albums?
[11:30] <shadox> back
[11:30] <shadox> did fresh format, my partitions are on my desktop but i cannot open them
[11:30] <shadox> :s
[11:31] <pseudo_smartass> creg... hmm. it wont even make it to the grub when u try to go with linux huh
[11:31] <nalioth> shadox: edit your fstab partitions
[11:31] <pseudo_smartass> ok u have 2 hard drives one with linux and the other with windows?
[11:31] <nalioth> shadox: er, fstab permissions
[11:31] <cregr> no says something like "error loading operating system
[11:32] <shadox> nalioth, can you give me the exact command cuz i'm kind a noob :$
[11:32] <pseudo_smartass> 2 hard drives or 1 wqith 2 operating systems?
[11:32] <nalioth> shadox: it isnt an exact command, it's editing a text file
[11:32] <pseudo_smartass> what format are the drives shad.... ntfs?
[11:32] <cregr> 2 HD's RAID1; works fine in winxp...
[11:32] <shadox> nalioth, can you tell me how to do it? :$
[11:33] <nalioth> shadox: do you know how to pastebin?
[11:33] <pseudo_smartass> raid1... not familiar with raids...
[11:33] <shadox> nalioth, eurhm yes :)
[11:33] <nalioth> shadox: pastebin your /etc/fstab please
[11:33] <pseudo_smartass> do you change stuff in the bios when u set linux to the active?
[11:33] <shadox> nalioth ok
[11:33] <cregr> no - just use partmagic
[11:34] <shadox> naliot, "sudo /etc/fstab " in a terminal
[11:34] <pseudo_smartass> u boot into partmagic and set the active part?
[11:34] <cregr> y
[11:34] <nalioth> shadox: dont use sudo, just "gedit /etc/fstab"
[11:34] <shadox> nalioth, ok brb
[11:35] <pseudo_smartass> well if memory serves me correct you only have one drive that contains the mbr... load to that one and then use the grub to switch to the other os
[11:35] <pseudo_smartass> like on my box i got 2 hard drives... one with winxp and the other with ubuntu... i load the windows disk which contains the grub and boot into linux
[11:36] <pseudo_smartass> i think the same might have to happen in your case
[11:36] <cregr> I think the problem might be with the RAID1 array... it is confusing grub...
[11:36] <pseudo_smartass> thats a possiblity also... but like i said i dont know raid so i cant say
[11:37] <pseudo_smartass> i just know i dont have to change the actuve part to get linux up
[11:37] <shadox> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5953
[11:37] <pseudo_smartass> i load the "main" drive and get to linux through it
[11:38] <cregr> how do you get grub on the "main drive" - I think that is where the problem may be
[11:38] <cregr> I think grub may be in the wrong spot
[11:38] <pseudo_smartass> grub automatically goes to the mbr
[11:38] <pseudo_smartass> u cant put it on a drive with no mbr
[11:39] <pseudo_smartass> ok i gotta go to work now, talk to you later selinium and bimberi... hope you get it figured out cregr. ttyl
[11:39] <cregr> when I load winxp... no grub just straight to winxp.... when I load linux I get error message ; still no grub
[11:40] <KaRupT_> does anyone know WTF wordpress is?
[11:41] <ben_underscore> KaRupT_, it's a blogging software i think
[11:41] <stainz> hi all
[11:41] <ben_underscore> hi stainz
[11:41] <stainz> hi ben
[11:41] <ben_underscore> lei italiano?
[11:42] <stainz> yes . si
[11:42] <cregr> anyone able to help fix grub (won't boot after install) on raid1 with dual boot (winxp)??
[11:42] <nalioth> !it
[11:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:42] <ben_underscore> stainz, don't try my italian, it's really bad, just thought i'd say hello
[11:42] <shadox> nalioth, brb
[11:42] <ben_underscore> nalioth, si si
[11:42] <stainz> yes no problem
[11:42] <stainz> :-)
[11:43] <stainz> anyone knows how to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stainz about breezy
[11:43] <eobanb> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <nalioth> stainz: check your private messages
[11:43] <eobanb> (and change your repository)
[11:43] <eobanb> :)
[11:44] <stainz> cool
[11:44] <nalioth> eobanb: my answer was quicker  ;)
[11:44] <stainz> nalioth: I didnt find it searching in ubuntu site...
[11:44] <nalioth> stainz: ubotu has sent you the link
[11:44] <stainz> someone should tell them the search engine is not complete...
[11:45] <KaRupT_> Ya and to get it ya have to have your own php db and php site to connect them too>??????
[11:45] <stainz> yes nalioth i saw it
[11:45] <cregr> anyone able to help fix grub (won't boot after install) on raid1 with dual boot (winxp)??
[11:46] <soundray> Just learning about sed. Would this work: 'sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/hoary/breezy/g' >/etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[11:47] <LordCrusader> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu look like xp, 98, ext
[11:47] <shadox> nalioth, i can't write in that file
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> LordCrusader: use kubuntu+xp theme
[11:48] <LordCrusader> where do i get that?
[11:48] <soundray> cregr, are you chatting from another machine?
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> Kubuntu with `apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop`
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> xp theme you have to find
[11:48] <cregr> yup
[11:48] <MM2> Hm... I could not install Ubuntu with linux nousb, but FC4 installed fine with that :(
[11:48] <soundray> cregr, do you get the grub menu?
[11:49] <cregr> no - error before that
[11:49] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: you'll have to "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[11:49] <soundray> cregr, what's the error?
[11:49] <LordCrusader> ok i downloaded a theme a while back. It was for the log in screen, how do i get that installed?
[11:49] <cregr> something like "error loading operating system"
[11:49] <soundray> cregr, is your /boot directory on the raid?
[11:50] <nguyenviet_hung2> heioooooooo
[11:50] <cregr> yes
[11:50] <nguyenviet_hung2> helooooooooooooo
[11:50] <shadox> nalioth_zZz the file fstab' is empty :s
[11:50] <nguyenviet_hung2> whatyuorname
[11:50] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: then something is very very wrong
[11:51] <nalioth> nguyenviet_hung2: this is a help channel, for chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:51] <shadox> nalioth_zZz but i just did a format :s
[11:51] <nalioth> shadox: where did you get what you pasted me?
[11:51] <LordCrusader> does anyone know of a good website to download themes?
[11:51] <cregr> soundray, sorry - thought you said /root.... not sure if /boot is on raid....
[11:51] <shadox> nalioth from the line you told me  gedit /etc/fstab
[11:51] <soundray> cregr, I don't know much about RAID, but I would try having a root (or at least a boot) partition outside the RAID.
[11:52] <nalioth> shadox: then "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" should bring it back up, for writing
[11:52] <stainz> tnx guys I'll try to upgrade...
[11:52] <shadox> nalioth i'll try agiain
[11:53] <soundray> cregr, otherwise you'd have to make grub RAID-aware somehow.
[11:54] <shadox> nalioth, no that file is empty
[11:54] <shadox> nalioth file is called "fstab' "
[11:54] <nalioth> shadox: i'm at a loss.
[11:54] <soundray> cregr, have you stfw? Here's something I found: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/mailing-list/2003-07/1270.html
[11:55] <cregr> what's stfw?
[11:55] <Aquarion> Surf the fine web.
[11:55] <Gecko> Search the fine web
[11:55] <soundray> cregr, search the fine web
[11:56] <cregr> :) thx
[11:56] <Gecko> wow, can I use you guys as a dictionary for my exam? :P
[11:56] <cregr> surfing
[11:56] <shadox> nalioth, i'll paste and c what changes, else i'll format again
[11:56] <soundray> Gecko, no way! Oh well, okay then.
[11:56] <Gecko> lol
[11:57] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: what are you formating?
[11:57] <shadox> nalioth_zZz, ubuntu (3e partition)
[11:57] <soundray> Gecko, lol = laughing out loud (you need that in your exam?)
[11:57] <nalioth_zZz> brenner: howdy, can you help shadox with his fstab perms, i've been up far too long yesterday
[11:58] <Gecko> soundray, actually, I don't need any computer expressions for my exam...
[11:58] <aaron> hi can anyone spare 5 minutes to help me with apcupsd? thanks
[11:58] <shadox> nalioth, here it is morning ^^
[11:58] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: the world is a big place, if you can't get help here, they can certainly help you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:59] <brenner> nalioth: er, fstab perms aren't exactly my thing
[11:59] <MarcN> 
[11:59] <aaron> i have installed it and had it running but now i cant seem to get it to work after a reboot
[12:00] <shadox> nalioth, k, i'll search another solution after a new format :) mayB i did something wrong by installing it
[12:00] <nalioth_zZz> brenner: he has the info he needs, he just can't get his fstab open (i hope he hasnt deleted it by mistake)
[12:00] <planetcall> which is a good podcast player for ubuntu with features
[12:00] <LordCrusader> This is a little off topic, can your cmos get deleted?
[12:01] <soundray> aaron, I don't have that package, but it's usually a matter of editing a file in /etc/default
[12:01] <shadox> nalioth_zZz, no i did not delete fstab :s like i told you, just did fresh format
[12:01] <aaron> ok
[12:01] <brenner> so it's missing from /etc ?
[12:01] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: you formatted in the short time from when you pasted your fstab and when i pasted the correction?
[12:01] <kestas> hey does anyone here use QEMU?
[12:01] <kestas> I'm using it and I'm not sure whether or not it's using virtualisation
[12:02] <shadox> nalioth_zZz no, like 15 minutes ago :)
[12:02] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: before you pasted your fstab?
[12:02] <kestas> if it's not its going pretty fast for full emulation, but there doesnt seem to be any kqemu module loaded
[12:02] <aaron> no really sure what i am looking for in this file~?
[12:03] <soundray> aaron, are you familiar with shell scripts?
[12:03] <LordCrusader> can ubuntu get viruses?
[12:03] <nalioth_zZz> LordCrusader: nope.
[12:03] <shadox> nalioth_zZz uhu, like 10 minutes before it, i formated ubuntu, re-installed it, than my 2 windows partitions where on my desktop but i could'nt open them, then i asked arround here and pasted the info you asked :)
[12:03] <kestas> nalioth_zZz, well it can but there arent any in the wild
[12:03] <aaron> soundray, aftaid not, totally new to ubuntu
[12:03] <soundray> LordCrusader, it can, but there aren't any in the wild, and it would be pretty hard to infect an Ubuntu machine.
[12:03] <nalioth_zZz> shadox: then you HAVE an fstab, and brenner can help you find it
[12:03] <LordCrusader> is ubuntu campatible with a macontash computer?
[12:04] <nalioth_zZz> brenner: sayonara
[12:04] <nalioth_zZz> LordCrusader: yes it is.
[12:04] <soundray> aaron, give me a minute, I'll look into it.
[12:04] <kestas> LordCrusader, it's compatible with a Macintosh computer
[12:04] <aaron> it seems to be working now, just need to add the apcupsd daemon to load on startup
[12:04] <nalioth_zZz> good night all
[12:04] <brenner> nite
[12:04] <aaron> nite
[12:04] <soundray> LordCrusader, you can link up to one, but you cannot run Mac programs.
[12:04] <LordCrusader> you have to have the Macintosh cd though right? You can't use the same installation cd for Mac as you do a regular comp. Right?
[12:05] <shadox> nalioth_zZz, yes i got an fstab file, but i can't write it and when i do gksudo there opens a file called fstab' and when i paste the solution in it i can't save the file :s
[12:05] <soundray> LordCrusader, yes.
[12:05] <brenner> shadox: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:05] <LordCrusader> where do i go to uninstall programs?
[12:05] <soundray> aaron, so you're all set?
[12:06] <shadox> brenner, uhu, that info i pasted in pastebin, noliath pasted the solution but i can't change the fstab file
[12:06] <brenner> LordCrusader: easy method is using synaptic
[12:06] <soundray> LordCrusader, use a package manager like synaptic
[12:06] <brenner> LordCrusader: sys > admin > synaptic
[12:06] <LordCrusader> ok
[12:07] <brenner> shadox: did you try the command i gave you?
[12:07] <LordCrusader> what's a good website for getting a dvd decoder?
[12:07] <shadox> brenner, yes i did
[12:07] <LordCrusader> free too if there is one
[12:07] <shadox> brenner, and the strange is, i CAN change now :s
[12:07] <brenner> shadox: :)
[12:07] <aaron> all set here
[12:08] <siorai> Is there way to save *.cue sheets from the freedb to local files?
[12:08] <shadox> noliath, can you paste me your paste bin once again?
[12:08] <aaron> just trying to make sure it shuts down
[12:08] <soundray> LordCrusader, what do you want to do? Play DVDs?
[12:08] <siorai> Because I've been trying to find a program or something that will let me do it, but so far no good
[12:08] <LordCrusader> soundray: ya
[12:09] <soundray> LordCrusader, ubotu has some advice for you
[12:09] <shadox> brenner, i'll try to open it now brb
[12:09] <soundray> !tell LordCrusader about dvd
[12:09] <LordCrusader> I don't like ubuntu help, it's not like windows, and i don't know how to navigate the ubuntu help very good
[12:09] <soundray> !tell LordCrusader about libdvdcss2
[12:10] <shadox> brenner, it still don't work, i can't open it cuz i don't got the rights to :s
[12:10] <LordCrusader> yes tell me please
[12:10] <soundray> LordCrusader, read ubotu's messages
[12:10] <LordCrusader> ???
[12:10] <brenner> shadox: cd /etc
[12:11] <bimberi> LordCrusader: did you get a /msg from ubotu?
[12:11] <LordCrusader> hang on let me put in a dvd
[12:11] <shadox> brenner, k what next?
[12:11] <brenner> shadox: then do a ls -l and see what permissions etc. the fstab file has
[12:11] <aaron> i will be back in 5 soundray, jsut running the ups down to see if it shuts the machine down
[12:11] <brenner> shadox: actually, hang on.  if you use sudo, you should be able to write to it
[12:12] <siorai> Can anyone help me? ; /
[12:12] <soundray> aaron, I may not be here, but I'm sure you'll find more help from someone if you need it.
[12:12] <hmpedersen> How do i tell Evolution to fetch -all- my mails?
[12:12] <hmpedersen> It only fetches the first 300..
[12:12] <shadox> brenner, k i did, received a lot of information
[12:13] <aaron> hmm it dont seem to shut it down, it says it has started the shut down sequence, but it doesnt
[12:13] <MoRpHeUz> hi, I'm getting an error while trying to run xpdf..: "unable to load any usable fontset"...any ideas ?
[12:13] <aaron> any ideas
[12:13] <brenner> shadox: nvm that.  wrong track... how's it telling you you don't have rights to write to it? i.e.what error do you get?
[12:13] <shadox> brenner, i'll try a translation, cuz it's dutch
[12:13] <soundray> aaron, it's probably delayed the shutdown by some reasonable amount
[12:13] <aaron> oh right
[12:13] <aaron> i will look in config
[12:14] <shadox> brenner, "can't display the content of the map"
[12:14] <brenner> shadox: er, ok... that doesn't make much sense to me :-/
[12:15] <shadox> brenner,"you don't have the rights to view the content of hda5"
[12:15] <brenner> shadox: and you get this when you type 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'?
[12:15] <LordCrusader> Totem could not play 'dvd://'.  Element doesn't implement handling of this stream. Please file a bug.
[12:16] <LordCrusader> that's what it says
[12:16] <shadox> brenner, no i get this error when i try to open the hda1 or hda5 on my desktop
[12:16] <aaron> cant find anything in the config that will delay the shutdown
[12:16] <shadox> brenner when i open sudo gedit ... i'll recieve a text file with some info
[12:17] <shadox> brenner i did pastebin, wait i'll get url
[12:17] <shadox> brenner http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5953
[12:17] <brenner> shadox: yes, we need to edit that file so you *can* get access to the partitions
[12:18] <brenner> shadox: ok.  we need to change some things there.
[12:18] <brenner> shadox: i thought nalioth gaev you the info you need?
[12:18] <shadox> brenner, ok you tell me :)
[12:18] <shadox> brenner yes he did
[12:18] <shadox> brenner, i'll paste his pastebin
[12:18] <brenner> b/c i'm not really an expert on fstab perms
[12:19] <brenner> shadox: oh, ok. that makes things easier :)
[12:19] <shadox> brenner http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5954
[12:20] <shadox> brenner, the ro, uid=000 part i did, but still i can't get access to my win partitions :s
[12:20] <brenner> shadox: easy then.  just copy and paste that, replacing everything in the old fstab file
[12:20] <zion_> how to disable clock sync @ boot?
[12:20] <shadox> brenner, everything? k will do
[12:20] <LordCrusader> Totem could not play 'dvd://'.   There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins  The movie, "The Wish Master" says this error
[12:20] <brenner> shadox: i'm gussing you have to remount/reboot then
[12:20] <zion_> LordCrusader, try vcl
[12:20] <hmpedersen> i take it, nobody knows?
[12:20] <zion_> totem blows
[12:20] <LordCrusader> vc1?
[12:20] <LordCrusader> is that in the applications?
[12:21] <shadox> brenner, ok, i just replaced everything
[12:21] <zion_> no its another video player
[12:21] <brenner> LordCrusader: it's VLC
[12:21] <LordCrusader> zion: what do you recomend me using
[12:21] <shadox> brenner, i'll reboot brb    thnx by now :)
[12:21] <zion_> vcl
[12:21] <brenner> shadox: good luck
[12:21] <Myrtti> VLC
[12:21] <zion_> sek ill point u to a thread
[12:21] <LordCrusader> which one vlc or vc1?
[12:21] <Myrtti> VLC
[12:22] <LordCrusader> going once
[12:22] <LordCrusader> going twice
[12:22] <LordCrusader> sold to vlc
[12:22] <LordCrusader> so where do i download/get vlc?
[12:23] <zion_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:23] <zion_> go to www.ubuntuforums.org and search for vlc
[12:23] <brenner> LordCrusader: or use synaptic as you did before
[12:23] <LordCrusader> synaptic, and it's called vlc in synaptic?
[12:24] <zion_> yep
[12:24] <brenner> LordCrusader: yes, just click on the search button...assuming you've enabled universe
[12:24] <zion_> u might need to uncomment few things in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <zion_> then apt-get update
[12:24] <shadox> shadox is back
[12:25] <shadox> brenner, it still doesn't work
[12:25] <hmpedersen> How do i tell Evolution to fetch -all- my mails? As it is, it only fetches the first 300, then cant receive anymore, because gmail after that connection resets to "receive mail received since last connection"
[12:25] <LordCrusader> holy shit
[12:25] <LordCrusader> i just got the worse error ever
[12:25] <shadox> brenner, when openening hda1 i recieve no error but i cannot see folders :s by openening hda5 i'm still getting the error
[12:26] <brenner> shadox: paste the output of 'mount' to a pastebin please
[12:26] <shadox> brenner, just typing mount in a terminal?
[12:26] <brenner> yep
[12:27] <brenner> LordCrusader: and what would that be?
[12:27] <shadox> brenner http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5955
[12:28] <LordCrusader> i don't remember now, i think it was my fault, i must have hit enter when synaptic was loading and i hit cancel, and an error popped up...It didn't sound good.
[12:28] <LordCrusader> Anyways, it didn't find it in synaptics
[12:28] <LordCrusader> i went to search, typed in vlc and it didn't find it
[12:29] <brenner> LordCrusader: then you probably need to enable the universe repo
[12:29] <brenner> ubotu: tell LordCrusader about repos
[12:29] <LordCrusader> and how do i do that
[12:29] <kemik> !universe
[12:29] <ubotu> methinks repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[12:29] <LordCrusader> yep, i said i was computer illiterat
[12:29] <brenner> shadox: hmm, looks like it was indeed mounted with the right options
[12:30] <LordCrusader> as  in i didn't understand what you just typed
[12:30] <shadox> brenner, uhu, i followed the wiki page for mounting automaticly
[12:32] <LordCrusader> any more hints on getting the decoder?
[12:32] <darkness> HEllo everyone.
[12:32] <brenner> LordCrusader: vlc is a program in the 'universe repository', where lots of optional apps are kept. it isn't enabled by default.  you need to enable it
[12:32] <shadox> brenner, but that didn't worked so i formated again, and ask around here
[12:32] <LordCrusader> how do i enable it?
[12:32] <brenner> LordCrusader: vlc comes with a dvd decoder
[12:32] <brenner> LordCrusader: kemik has given you a link
[12:32] <shadox> brenner could it be i did something wrong by installing ubuntu ?
[12:32] <LordCrusader> he did, when was that
[12:33] <brenner> LordCrusader: well, not directly, but: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:33] <Edorka> hi
[12:33] <brenner> shadox: er, no.  i wouldn't think that installing ubuntu is a mistake :)
[12:33] <kevor> How can i login to my computer with VNC when i've just boot it, haven't login yet!?
[12:34] <Edorka> one question . is it possible to use a vanilla (kernel.org) kernel on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[12:34] <LordCrusader> I think installing ubuntu is a dream come true
[12:34] <strannik> Hello Guys...
[12:34] <LordCrusader> I like how it's set up and everything
[12:34] <brenner> shadox: weird.  can you try 'cd /media/hda1' ?
[12:34] <LordCrusader> I just need to get used toi t
[12:34] <darkness> Hey, i just downloaded a java thingy, blackbox or something, it's all downloaded right, but when i go to a site that needs java, it won't work.
[12:34] <strannik> could you help me out...i'm trying to make a local repos of all the stuff that I downloaded (and thats about 1gb) ....
[12:34] <shadox> brenner ,no, !! absolutly not, but on the installpart there was a partiton manager, maybe there went something wrong or ..
[12:34] <shadox> brenner ok
[12:34] <strannik> i'm trying to use the following skript:
[12:34] <darkness> So how can i get FF 1.5 to use the java thingy i just downloaded?
[12:35] <strannik> dpkg --get-selections | \
[12:35] <strannik> 	grep -v "deinstall" |  \
[12:35] <strannik> 	awk '{print $1}' | \
[12:35] <strannik> 	xargs dpkg-repack
[12:35] <irvin> darkness: could you point me to the site so i can test it?
[12:35] <strannik> and i get the following error xargs: dpkg-repack: No such file or directory
[12:35] <shadox> brenner, "access denied"
[12:35] <darkness> Test java? just go to goodle and search for java sites.
[12:36] <strannik> any ideas on why it doesn't work????
[12:36] <LordCrusader> that link you guys gave me was a Mail Configureation thing
[12:37] <arnducky> darkness, and SUN's Java test site *should* be on the top of the list -- as it is when you download Java directly from them.
[12:37] <darkness> j2rel1, do you know how to make it usuable with fire fox?
[12:37] <arnducky> ;-)
[12:37] <brenner> shadox: have you tried the method on the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:37] <darkness> I didn't download the one from java, i download the j2rel1.2 from the repository.
[12:37] <irvin> darkness: well my java from blackdown install works, i'm wondering why not yours
[12:38] <brenner> shadox: try using the options they list there
[12:38] <darkness> Irvin: Is there something i should do in ff to make it recognise that i have it?
[12:38] <LordCrusader> brenner: did you see what i said?
[12:38] <brenner> shadox: i.e. ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[12:38] <thefish> kevor: have a look at freenx, it does more or less the same thing as vnc, but more on top
[12:39] <irvin> darkness: it integrates automatically
[12:39] <strannik> could any body help me????
[12:39] <darkness> even in the new firefox?
[12:39] <irvin> darkness: was is j2re1.4 you installed?
[12:39] <darkness> yes.
[12:39] <brenner> LordCrusader: yes.  not to me it isn't.
[12:39] <brenner> LordCrusader: you should be getting a wiki page
[12:39] <LordCrusader> nope
[12:40] <brenner> LordCrusader: here it is again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:40] <kevin> hi everybody
[12:40] <LordCrusader> mailto:n=edorka@253.Red-80-24-63.staticIP.rima-tde.net
[12:40] <LordCrusader> that's waht you guys gave me
[12:40] <Edorka> LordCrusader, what ?
[12:40] <kevin> does anybody know a good howto for RIS on linux or bsd?
[12:40] <Mike_> hello. can anyone help me with getting ndiswrapper to work?
[12:41] <Mike_> i'm trying to get an acx111 wireless card to work
[12:41] <darkness> Should i maybe have a look at the configuration files? If so, how?
[12:42] <biesterfeld> hallo
[12:42] <kevin> does anybody know a good howto for RIS on linux or bsd?
[12:43] <Ng> kevin: what's RIS? ;)
[12:43] <kevin> remote installation server
[12:44] <irvin> darkness: it should work in ff 1.5
[12:44] <Ng> kevin: never heard of it, have you tried googling?
[12:44] <darkness> I'll download the sun's java virtual machine.
[12:44] <zorba64> darkness: have a look at the gnome help under starter guide then applications then java and try that...it should work
[12:44] <darkness> Which download should i get for ubuntu 5.10 or whatever it is
[12:44] <kevin> yes, but there isn't a howto that pleases me
[12:45] <Ng> kevin: well then I'm guessing that since nobody else replied, the answer is no, sorry
[12:45] <LordCrusader> Enabling Repositories In Kubuntu. <----Is this what i want to go to?
[12:45] <darkness> zorba64: How do i get into gnome help, is it a website or a feature on ubuntu?
[12:45] <kevin> ok thx anyway
[12:45] <zorba64> if in gnome...under system menu
[12:45] <thefish> kevin: there is one I looked at that works almost like RIS, its a perl effort
[12:45] <brenner> LordCrusader: if you are runnign kubuntu, then yeah probably
[12:45] <darkness> about gnome?
[12:45] <thefish> but no images, it scripts installation of apps
[12:46] <brenner> LordCrusader: i thought you were running gnoem though
[12:46] <brenner> *gnome
[12:46] <zorba64> darkness: nope Help above it
[12:46] <kevin> and that is?
[12:46] <Edorka> hi, anyone uses a kernel.org source in ubuntu ? does it work properly?
[12:46] <LordCrusader> what's the difference?
[12:46] <LordCrusader> what do you mean running gnome?
[12:46] <brenner> LordCrusader: different desktop environments and package mgrs
[12:47] <LordCrusader> i have synoptics, does that help you figure out which one i have?
[12:47] <kevin> and do you have a link to that?
[12:47] <darkness> I only have preferences, administration , take screen shot, about gnome and ubuntu help then i have lock scren and log out.
[12:47] <brenner> LordCrusader: yes. you have gnome
[12:47] <zorba64> LordCrusader: using the gnome desktop...as opposed to kde, fluxbox xfce...ad nauseum
[12:47] <LordCrusader> I have no idea what those  others are
[12:47] <LordCrusader> lol
[12:47] <brenner> LordCrusader: start googling then
[12:48] <brenner> LordCrusader: anyway, you want to use the instructions at the top then
[12:48] <LordCrusader> ok
[12:48] <manuvcube> LordCrusader: think of it as the "appearance" of your screen.
[12:48] <LordCrusader> there are no instructions, just a bunch of links
[12:49] <zorba64> darkness: are you using ubuntu 5.10?
[12:49] <MoonRanger> i just followed the instructions to downlaod and install java from http://wiki.ubuntu.com and when i go to java.com to verify my installation .. it says i dont have java installed .. i am using firefox 1.5
[12:49] <darkness> Yes.
[12:49] <darkness> Same here MoonRanger
[12:49] <Mike_> hi can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[12:49] <brenner> LordCrusader: scroll down.  they have screenshots for you even
[12:49] <brenner> can't get much easier than that
[12:49] <zorba64> darkness: ubuntu help then
[12:50] <irvin> !firefox1.5
[12:50] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:50] <LordCrusader> thank you brenner, i hadn't knowtticed lol
[12:50] <brenner> LordCrusader: :)
[12:51] <munzir> hi sirs, In rpm-based distro I can do rpm -V package to verify whether any file of the package has been changed, what's the corresponding command in ubuntu please?
[12:51] <Gecko> In order to compile kernel modules in ubuntu, how do I aquire the kernel headers? I am running the kernel bundled with the installation
[12:51] <darkness> I'll try download the vritual machine from sun microsystems
[12:53] <orangej> Are there anyways to install ubuntu if I don't have a CD drive?
[12:53] <zorba64> darkness: i take it you found the help...follow the instructions precisely and you will have java installed, with java plugin in firefox...i used the same method.
[12:53] <brenner> darkness: probably the linux-headers package that matches your uname -a
[12:53] <darkness> YEah.
[12:53] <brenner> whoops. that was for Gecko
[12:53] <jeffrey> hi guys, can someone help me with adding Windows Vista to Grub Menu?
[12:54] <yshsu168> Gecko: apt-get install kernel-source
[12:54] <brenner> and uname -r is probably better
[12:54] <Edorka> hi, anyone uses a kernel.org source in ubuntu ? does it work properly?
[12:55] <zorba64> Edorka: maybe you should go ahead and try it for yourself
[12:55] <aeon17x> jeffrey: did you install it before or after ubuntu?
[12:56] <jeffrey> aeon17x: yes I did
[12:56] <olavi> hey
[12:56] <aeon17x> >_<
[12:56] <jeffrey> I did not have a problem with Windows XP
[12:56] <Edorka> zorba64, dont know if ubuntu need any special option
[12:56] <Edorka> but any way your help is well apreciated zorba64
[12:56] <olavi> i installed edubuntu, how to get work mp3/s? any link or what i have to install
[12:56] <brenner> orangej: one option: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:57] <aeon17x> !tell olavi about mp3
[12:57] <darkness> I'll be seeing you guys a litte later on.
[12:57] <jeffrey> here's my post btw: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=590435#post590435
[12:57] <brenner> orangej: actually, that isn't an option it seems :-/
[12:57] <yshsu168> olavi: apt-get install mpg321
[12:58] <brenner> orangej: things seem to get complicated if you don't have a cd drive, but i'd start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/  looking at the advanced methods in particular
[12:59] <zorba64> Edorka: no real idea...thought some answer was better than being ignored...good luck with it
[01:03] <Edorka> zorba64, that is a better answer. thnx
[01:03] <Mike_> hi can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[01:04] <brenner> Mike_: have you seen ubotu's factiod yet?
[01:05] <Mike_> ubotus factiod?
[01:05] <brenner> ubotu: tell Mike_ about ndiswrapper
[01:06] <Mike_> well, there is no native support
[01:06] <Mike_> so i have to use ndiswrapper
[01:06] <Mike_> and it seems to work for most other people, just not me
[01:06] <brenner> jeffrey: have you had a look at the example entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <shreevatsa> If I want to install something before it makes it to one of the repos, can I do so now, and have apt take over once it hits them?
[01:07] <brenner> Mike_: oh, ok.  well i don't know much about it sorry.  but stick in there, someone will eventually wake up and be able to help you
[01:08] <jeffrey> @brenner, can't find any good example.. Y_Y
[01:08] <topyli> shreevatsa: no, apt will never know you have it installed
[01:08] <shreevatsa> topyli: So what happens then?
[01:09] <topyli> unless you find a deb package and install that
[01:09] <shreevatsa> topyli: When the new version comes, apt will try to install it all over again?
[01:09] <brenner> jeffrey: here's an example in my one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5956
[01:09] <azuron> how to uninstall gcc 4 and install gcc 3.4 instead????
[01:09] <azuron> the default version of gcc is the latest
[01:09] <Ng> shreevatsa: apt won't try and install anything if you don't tell it to
[01:09] <Lukian> "unable to lookup parentals via gethostbyname()"
[01:09] <brenner> jeffrey: my guess is just work out which partition windows is on, and change accordingly
[01:09] <shreevatsa> azuron: Why do you want to do that?
[01:10] <shreevatsa> Ng: No, I mean when I next do a dist-upgrade or something
[01:10] <azuron> shreevatsa, coz i got problem compiling flightgear
[01:10] <azuron> shawarma, I don't have that bug under Cygwin using 3.4
[01:10] <azuron> shreevatsa,
[01:10] <topyli> shreevatsa: if you don't install it from a deb package, apt will simply ignore it. you simply don't have it as far as apt is concerned
[01:10] <brenner> jeffrey: change the root line accordingly i mean
[01:10] <shreevatsa> azuron: You can install both; and tell flightgear to use the old one
[01:10] <jeffrey> thanks brenner, i'll check it out
[01:10] <azuron> shreevatsa, how to do that please????
[01:10] <shreevatsa> topyli: So apt still thinks I have the old version. Correct?
[01:10] <Ng> shreevatsa: if you had manually installed something and it was pulled in by a dist-upgrade then yes, apt would simply install it over whatever files were already there
[01:11] <Ng> apt will only know about things installed from a .deb
[01:11] <topyli> shreevatsa: it will think you have whatever you have installed from debian packages
[01:11] <azuron> shreevatsa, I really need to know that, thanks, please tell me, i need to finish this task as soon as possible
[01:11] <Ng> if you install a .deb of the software in question then apt will understand it when you dist-upgrade and (providing it doesn't conflict for some reason) upgrade it cleanly, or leave it as-is
[01:12] <topyli> right
[01:12] <shreevatsa> Ng: Great. So there is no problem at all upgrading to versions newer than in the repos, in the sense that further versions will still be upgradable by just a dist-upgrade. Thanks a lot!
[01:12] <jeffrey> @brenner, i did change hd0,0 to hda1,0 - but im not really sure about "0"
[01:12] <Ng> shreevatsa: I didn't say there would be no problem at all
[01:13] <topyli> shreevatsa: except when you have non-ubuntu packages, the dist-upgrade might go awry
[01:13] <Ng> shreevatsa: I said "providing it doesn't conflict for some reason" - that reason could easily be that you are using a debian package that isn't entirely compatible and so apt will fail to dist-upgrade or just remove the package you installed
[01:14] <shreevatsa> Ng: But in those cases, I can still get it work by apt-get --reinstall or something, right?
[01:14] <shteeve> yay i got ubuntu running on my g5!
[01:14] <topyli> shreevatsa: when you don't find an ubuntu package, try to build from debian sources so you'll have a nice, compatible backport
[01:14] <Lukian> http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2003/10/msg00059.html
[01:14] <Lukian> ROFL
[01:14] <Ng> shreevatsa: possibly
[01:14] <Otis> guys, how can I set up a NIC using only the jumpers and WITHOUT isapnp interfering ?
[01:14] <topyli> shreevatsa: whatever you do, try to build packages for your own system
[01:14] <zorba64> shteeve: well done...does it rock along?
[01:15] <shteeve> zorba64: yes, its probably been the smoothest linux distro i've tried
[01:15] <jeffrey> brb
[01:15] <Otis> because right now the card detection is finding the same card at two memory locations, only one of which I declared in /etc/modules
[01:15] <brenner> jeffrey: i'm not really sure either. :)  iirc, hd0,0 corresponds to /dev/hda1  and hd1,1 would be /dev/hdb2, but like i said, i'm not really sure
[01:15] <brenner> damnit
[01:15] <shreevatsa> topyli: I didn't quite understand... does "build" mean "compile from source" or "install a deb" file?
[01:16] <topyli> building from debianized sources will give you a deb, which you can then install
[01:16] <shteeve> the challenge now is finding ati drivers for linux under the powerpc architecture :S
[01:16] <Skies> hi
[01:16] <Skies> :P
[01:16] <anir> hello
[01:16] <Skies> sup
[01:17] <shreevatsa> topyli: I have version 0.3.2 of a software. A 0.4.0 version is available on the software's sourceforge page, which includes a .deb file available for download
[01:17] <anir> what is the command for installing kubuntu..
[01:17] <Skies> how can I install glx?
[01:17] <shreevatsa> topyli: So would that be safe or not?
[01:17] <topyli> shreevatsa: if no debian sources can be found, you can still use checkinstall to build a deb
[01:17] <anir> is it "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings"
[01:17] <brenner> kubuntu-desktop iirc
[01:17] <Otis> what's the relation between the device hardware detection and stuff in /etc/modules ?
[01:17] <anir> anyone please....
[01:18] <topyli> shreevatsa: might work, might not. might still work after you upgrade, might not :)
[01:18] <Otis> when I declare a line in /etc/modules, does it refer to a device that was detected or does it *create* that relation ?
[01:18] <shreevatsa> topyli: Oh, you meant downloading the source package by adding a deb-src line to sources.list, and then building it?
[01:18] <topyli> shreevatsa: if they provide source and a deb, i bet their source is easy to build debs from
[01:18] <Skies> hmm
[01:18] <shreevatsa> topyli: So how do I build a deb from the source? ;)
[01:19] <selinium> shreevatsa, Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:19] <Skies> games says I don't have glx, and apt-get says I have installed nvidia-glx
[01:19] <Skies> what's the problem
[01:20] <anir> what is the meaning of "waiting for header"..??
[01:20] <Skies> where I can get libglx? o,o
[01:21] <Skies> plz tell me D:D:D
[01:21] <brenner> selinium: might be worth mentioning checkinstall on that wiki page
[01:22] <anir> can anyone hear me..???
[01:22] <selinium> brenner: you are not wrong!
[01:22] <shteeve> *sigh* anyone here running ubuntu on a powerpc?
[01:22] <brenner> selinium: that makes a change :)
[01:22] <shreevatsa> selinium: Thanks. That page has a broken link, BTW (packages.ubuntu,com instead of packages.ubuntu.com)
[01:23] <topyli> shreevatsa: if the tarball it has a "debian" directory, you just run debian/control through fakeroot. if not, use checkinstall
[01:23] <Ng> isn't it debian/rules?
[01:24] <topyli> Ng: could be, i forget :)
[01:24] <topyli> rules, yes
[01:24] <anir> hello.. plz plz
[01:24] <anir> if i want to install kubuntu . what are the respositories i have to add..??
[01:25] <selinium> shreevatsa, brenner has a point, use sudo checkinstall..
[01:25] <topyli> shreevatsa: first thing is of course to check if debian unstable or experimental has a package for the software. then build from their source with apt
[01:26] <coNP> anir: do you have ubuntu (with gnome) installed
[01:26] <anir> coNP, thank you, yes i have
[01:26] <coNP> anir: then try to "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:26] <Mulder> anybody managed to get an icplus 100 nic working in amd64 platform?
[01:27] <anir> coNP, ok. after that i have to " sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop"
[01:27] <anir> coNP, i have tried .. it says waiting for header.. what is that?
[01:28] <topyli> anir: removing gnome-desktop will remove absolutely nothing :)
[01:28] <anir> topyli, then..??
[01:28] <anir> topyli, i only want kde
[01:28] <coNP> anir: can you install any packages from the repository?
[01:29] <anir> coNP, i am trying.. but no
[01:29] <coNP> anir: maybe try with another ubuntu mirror
[01:29] <anir> coNP, how can i do that..??
[01:30] <coNP> anir: "sudo apt-setup" will do it
[01:30] <anir> coNP, i have given "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and its downloading..
[01:31] <coNP> anir: if it is downloading, it will install kubuntu, too
[01:31] <Mulder> are there ubuntu packages cds that can be downloaded for non net installations?
[01:31] <coNP> anir: if it is too slow, maybe you should try to use another mirror
[01:32] <anir> coNP, yes.. so i have to give apt-setup
[01:33] <anir> coNP, the dist-upgrade in 120 MB so i think it will take some time..
[01:33] <coNP> anir: sure, depending on the type of the network connection you have
[01:34] <anir> coNP, its downloading at 21 kBps.. slow
[01:35] <anir> coNP, what i will get if i do apt-setup??
[01:35] <brenner> Mulder: there was an addon cd for hoary.  none as yet for breezy
[01:35] <brenner> *unofficial addon cd
[01:35] <Mulder> brenner, ah ok :S thanks
[01:36] <anir> brenner, is breezy the upcoming release of ubuntu..??
[01:37] <brenner> anir: no, its' the latest stable release
[01:37] <MoonRanger> breezy is the latest stable release
[01:37] <brenner> dapper's the upcoming one iirc
[01:37] <coNP> Mulder: do you know "apt-zip"
[01:37] <anir> perhaps i am downloading breezy
[01:37] <Mulder> coNP, never heard of it. i know apt-get and apt-cache though
[01:38] <coNP> Mulder: with it you can select a bunch of packages and then it makes a script that downloads them
[01:38] <keiron> hi
[01:38] <keiron> can you please tell me which php editors you recommend for ubuntu?
[01:38] <anir> i can open only one terminal... is it possible to open more???
[01:39] <keiron> i'm using the gnome distribution of ubuntu
[01:39] <Mulder> coNP, that's great, but the reason i ask about package cd is cause there is no net access on that machine
[01:39] <coNP> Mulder: so you run the script on a networked machine and get the packages you want
[01:39] <Mulder> coNP, ohh.. that's great
[01:39] <Mulder> heh
[01:39] <Mulder> wicked
[01:39] <coNP> Mulder: write them to CD / DVD, and install on the non-networked one
[01:39] <Mulder> thanks
[01:40] <anir> coNP, is it possible to open more than one terminal..
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> start-maximize an option ?
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> is ?
[01:40] <MoonRanger> anir : just open another terminal ..
[01:41] <coNP> anir: sure, try to click on Applications / Accessories / Terminal
[01:43] <anir> coNP, when i gave for apt-setup it is asking for cd...
[01:44] <erundur> hi all
[01:44] <anir> i am having version 5.04.. is it the latest one.??
[01:44] <anir> hi erundur
[01:44] <erundur> 5.10 is the latest
[01:44] <erundur> i think
[01:44] <erundur> i need help for usb modem
[01:44] <anir> october release.??
[01:44] <erundur> who can help me
[01:45] <erundur> ?
[01:45] <anir> coNP, when i gave apt-setup.. its asking for cd.. what should i do?
[01:45] <coNP> anir: select http method instead of cdrom
[01:45] <brenner> anir: 5.04 is the older release
[01:45] <anir> coNP, from where?
[01:45] <brenner> anir: i think you'd want 5.10
[01:46] <coNP> anir: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <anir> brenner, yes.. someone told me.. i have given dist-upgrade.. will it install 5.10
[01:46] <erundur> i will wait my turn
[01:46] <erundur> :)
[01:46] <brenner> anir: depends on what your sources.list looks like
[01:47] <anir> from where i can edir sources.list.??
[01:48] <brenner> it's in the /etc/apt directory
[01:49] <anir> coNP, instead of "deb cdrom" i should give "deb http://"
[01:49] <erundur> someone can help me to intall a usb modem for adsl line
[01:49] <erundur> ?
[01:49] <erundur> pls
[01:50] <Mulder> what's that redirect operator that will catch stdout and stderr both at the same time
[01:50] <anir> brenner, how do i change deb cdrom to http:
[01:50] <Mulder> &> ?
[01:50] <coNP> anir: sure
[01:51] <coNP> anir: but with apt-setup it is easier to do that
[01:52] <anir> coNP, .. i am not been able to  edit sources.list.. whats the full command to edit it..
[01:53] <brenner> anir: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:55] <brenner> anir: comment out the cd line by putting a # at the start of the line
[01:55] <anir> thank you brenner .. then what should i do to remove the cd option to http
[01:55] <brenner> anir: if you're dist-upgrading though, you need to work out which distro you currently are running
[01:55] <brenner> then we can tell you what to change so you can upgrade to the breezy if need be
[01:58] <anir> brenner, could u please explain.. i am trying to install 5.10.. will it do?
[01:59] <brenner> anir: so you're running hoary i assume
[01:59] <anir> brenner, absolutely
[01:59] <brenner> i.e. 5.04
[01:59] <brenner> then follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:00] <anir> brenner, as i have given dist-upgrade.. what ll it do?
[02:00] <brenner> anir: your system will be upgraded from 5.04 to breezy (4.10)
[02:01] <Skies> hmm what were the commands to shut gnome and xserver :o
[02:01] <irvin> Skies: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:01] <stevens> hello
[02:01] <Skies> not that
[02:01] <chode> hi
[02:01] <Skies> it restarts again if I do that
[02:01] <stevens> i have just installed ubuntu
[02:01] <anir> brenner, 4.10..?? what is that
[02:01] <Skies> he meant 5.10
[02:01] <Skies> :P
[02:01] <chode> why?
[02:01] <anir> ok shies
[02:01] <brenner> yeah, sorry :)
[02:02] <anir> : p never mind...
[02:02] <Mulder> if you were to compile 3rd party kernel modules, you just need build-essentials, kernel headers and kernel source right?
[02:02] <brenner> stevens: liking what you see?
[02:02] <stevens> indeed
[02:02] <stevens> i have a lot to learn but well worth the curve
[02:02] <brenner> awesome
[02:03] <chode> what did you have before Ubuntu, stevens?
[02:03] <keiron> hell
[02:03] <keiron> o
[02:03] <keiron> can someone please give me a url to the best Ubuntu documentation
[02:03] <stevens> i had xp and promissed myself that if it were to crash i'd install linux of some flavour
[02:03] <brenner> stevens: so your 1st distro i assume?
[02:03] <apokryphos> keiron: check the /topic
[02:03] <keiron> i was told before that there are some outdated pages that i should not use
[02:03] <stevens> yes 1st one
[02:03] <keiron> great thanks
[02:04] <brenner> stevens: well you picked a good beginner's one
[02:04] <stevens> yes i've been told it's good
[02:05] <stevens> how long have you been using ubuntu
[02:05] <anir> hmm.. i think i am learning linux... cool.. thank you guys
[02:05] <chode> i have kubuntu in my class here in high school for 3 weeks now
[02:06] <kiko> please, how do I change the name to a computer?
[02:06] <Chousuke> Ubuntu is cool exactly because it works for both newbies and advanced users :)
[02:06] <iflipti> does anyone here use a "Buffalo G54" 802.11g wireless PCMCIA card with Ubuntu?
[02:07] <chode> the gui is easy to use
[02:07] <stevens> what antivirus do you need with ubuntu?
[02:08] <Mulder> stevens, none.
[02:08] <stevens> YEAH!!!!!
[02:08] <chode> he's right
[02:08] <stevens> why though?
[02:08] <Mulder> viruses on linux is almost unheard of
[02:08] <stevens> cool
[02:08] <Hentai^XP> if you want one anyways
[02:08] <Hentai^XP> clamAV
[02:08] <Mulder> because linux users are not stupid enough (generally speaking) to do everything s root
[02:08] <stevens> what games can you play?
[02:08] <showme> OTZ
[02:08] <chode> no-one really has Linux so there are almost no viruses for it
[02:08] <Lukian> stevens: nibbles! :)
[02:09] <stevens> this just rules
[02:09] <chode> why make spyware for linux when everyone has windows
[02:09] <Hentai^XP> Mulder check out linspire and xandros
[02:09] <topyli> stevens: would you like to write one? http://www.lwfug.org/~abartoli/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/
[02:09] <topyli> :)
[02:09] <Hentai^XP> chode its more than just its not used enough
[02:09] <stevens> this has made my day... i should have converted a long time ago
[02:10] <Hentai^XP> if people would use LUA on windows instead of running as admins
[02:10] <stevens> write what?
[02:10] <sorush20> hi
[02:10] <topyli> stevens: a linux virus
[02:10] <sorush20> I need to find out how to set up my phase on my software...
[02:11] <sorush20> monitor phase......
[02:11] <stevens> yeah sure..... NOT
[02:11] <sorush20> there has the monitor is a little shaky
[02:11] <sorush20> could someone pelease help
[02:11] <Lukian> topyli: what on earth is an elf file? :p
[02:12] <topyli> Lukian: a linux binary
[02:12] <stevens> is it possible to allocate resources in ubuntu
[02:12] <Lukian> is elf an abbr?
[02:12] <stevens> ex: how much RAm i use etc....
[02:12] <topyli> Lukian: yes. i forget what it means
[02:13] <anir> i say linspire is not linux..
[02:13] <Grundle> grundle's back
[02:13] <topyli> Lukian: executable and linking format
[02:13] <Grundle> back again
[02:13] <Lukian> lukian doesn't care :p
[02:13] <Grundle> WHO!?
[02:13] <Lukian> ME
[02:13] <chode> G-Rundle
[02:13] <Grundle> MIKE JONES!!!
[02:13] <chode> haha
[02:14] <Lukian> Chris Dawson?
[02:14] <chode> that's our teacher
[02:14] <chode> we are in class
[02:15] <Taliesin`> Heyya - is there some sort of central ubuntu manage - have around 70 computers and it's hard to run around and get them to run updates - or commands on each (cron jobbing apt-get update isnt a secure method for me either)
[02:16] <kestas> Hentai^XP, easier said than done though, most games and even apps need you to be an admin
[02:16] <Taliesin`> I've browsed the wiki - and google wasnt showing and nice help :)
[02:16] <Taliesin`> and = any
[02:16] <kestas> Hentai^XP, I'd like to have my sister's account as a user, but I cant because she wants to run the Sims, and it needs you to be admin
[02:16] <Hentai^XP> kestas the apps that need admin are broken installs usually
[02:16] <anir> hey hey tell me... why do someone kick someone out of the room.. plz dont kick me out as i am here to learn something..and if u kick me out that will be bad for me
[02:16] <CioN> hey all how do i install ati drivers for 9600 pro 256 Mb?
[02:16] <[A] ndy80> I've installed a new kernel in ubuntu, the *-686 version of the kernel I've always used (2.6.12-10) how can I configure nvidia module for this new kernel?
[02:16] <Hentai^XP> kestas use runas to gain admin status for the app than
[02:17] <kestas> Hentai^XP, I tried that, but it didnt work
[02:17] <sorush20> Astxist: well could you help please with my problem..
[02:17] <Hentai^XP> kestas tried?
[02:17] <kestas> Hentai^XP, cant remember what went wrong
[02:17] <Hentai^XP> all you do is right click on the .exe and hit runas
[02:17] <kestas> Hentai^XP, I know :P
[02:18] <Ng> [A] ndy80: you should just need the 686 version of the restricted-modules package
[02:18] <Ng> [A] ndy80: if you already had the card configured properly it should then Just Work
[02:18] <kestas> oh [A] ndy80 hi
[02:18] <Hentai^XP> most of the time the apps that install that need admins privs ar ebecause the installer didn't install how it should
[02:18] <Hentai^XP> usually just a permissions change
[02:19] <CioN> hey all how do i install ati drivers for 9600 pro 256 Mb?
[02:19] <[A] ndy80> kestas: hi
[02:19] <[A] ndy80> Ng: yes, my nvidia card, xorg ecc... is properly configured... I only need the 686 version, but I cannot find it in synaptic, I only see the LEGACY version...
[02:21] <Edorka> hi again
[02:21] <kestas> [A] ndy80, you cant find the nvidia driver?
[02:22] <[A] ndy80> the package is: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686
[02:22] <[A] ndy80> sorry :D
[02:22] <Edorka> is having anyone problems with gstreamer0.8-mad because of dependencies ?
[02:22] <Hentai^XP> kestas vista should be setting the standard for LUA and admin coming up now, finally
[02:22] <kestas> Hentai^XP, glad to hear it, about time imho
[02:23] <Hentai^XP> yep
[02:24] <Lukian> hmm, i just broke sudo
[02:26] <askarali> congratulations
[02:26] <Lukian> indeed
[02:26] <Lukian> i now have no idea how to remove / move / rename the file which is causing it
[02:28] <_jason> Lukian, what did you do?  /etc/sudoers
[02:28] <dewdude> has anyone else found that XMMS won't go into directories with brackets "[, ] " in the name?
[02:28] <Lukian> _jason: I added a hosts file
[02:28] <kestas> Hentai^XP, does XP Home come with support for user switching?
[02:28] <kestas> Hentai^XP, that might have been what the problem was
[02:28] <dewdude> XP home comes with fast user switching
[02:28] <Lukian> sudo anything results in: sudo: unable to lookup parentals via gethostbyname()
[02:29] <_jason> Lukian, oh
[02:29] <_jason> a couple of people had this problem
[02:29] <_jason> unfortunately I don't know the solutioon
[02:29] <_jason> i think there is more than one file that is supposed to be changed
[02:29] <Lukian> i believe i need to su to root
[02:30] <Lukian> but i can't do that, because i haven't changed the password since whatever it uses during install
[02:30] <kestas> Lukian, you need to set your hostname
[02:30] <Hoxzer> _jason: do anime nerds get any womens?
[02:30] <_jason> Lukian, yeah the account is disabled
[02:30] <Lukian> kestas: where?
[02:30] <_jason> Lukian, I have to go now, but most likely you will need to boot up with the livecd and edit files after mounting the drive
[02:30] <kestas> Lukian, the catch is you need to be root to do it ;p
[02:30] <keiron> i need to mount a local filesystem with mount
[02:31] <Lukian> _jason: can i use the install cd?
[02:31] <Hentai^XP> kestas xp home?
[02:31] <kestas> Lukian, I cant remember how I did it when I had the prob, I think I used a live CD to set the hostname
[02:31] <Hentai^XP> fast user switching is supported
[02:31] <kestas> yeah as _jason said
[02:31] <kestas> Hentai^XP, k guess that wasnt the prob I had
[02:31] <askarali> mount -t fstype /dev/hdX /mnt/abc ?
[02:31] <keiron> but when i add the filesystem to /etc/fstab and try to mount it i get smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported in dmesg
[02:31] <Hentai^XP> though
[02:31] <keiron> anyone know what i have to do here?
[02:31] <Hentai^XP> editing permission has to be done though CMD
[02:32] <JPohlmann> Hi all. Is anyone running Firefox 1.5 on Breezy?
[02:34] <ejofee> E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:34] <ejofee> E: lilypond: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:34] <ejofee> E: lilypond1.3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:34] <ejofee> any idea why?
[02:34] <DrAllcome> Hallo ...
[02:35] <DrAllcome> Got a question about a paket ...
[02:35] <coNP> JPohlmann, yep, I do
[02:35] <JPohlmann> coNP: Did you have any problems during the installation? How did you install it?
[02:35] <DrAllcome> Would like to know the paketname for the remote desktop client which you can find in ubuntu 5.10 under applications/network ...
[02:35] <coNP> JPohlmann, I think I don't use a debian package
[02:36] <jimmy_neutron> hi
[02:36] <JPohlmann> coNP: I guessed so. Did you just untar and run it?
[02:36] <jimmy_neutron> i somehow deystroyed my /etc/apt/sources.list, would somebody be so nice and paste his file on nopaste and give me the link?
[02:37] <deFrysk> !sources.list
[02:37] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:37] <jimmy_neutron> thx
[02:38] <DrAllcome> Do not have ubuntu installed and would like to use this programm under my debian linux ... it was great that i can remote login to my linux machine vi xdmcp and to my windows machine via rdp and a third feature was vnc ...
[02:39] <DrAllcome> May somebody can have a look what the name of the paket is?
[02:39] <Lukian> DrAllcome: system -> prefs -> remote desktop?
[02:39] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get java? it's not listed in synaptc...
[02:40] <apokryphos> !sunjava
[02:40] <Lukian> apps -> internet -> terminal services client (for the other)
[02:40] <coNP> JPohlmann, yes
[02:40] <Stormx2> JPohlmann: i tried to run FF 1.5. Failed, though.
[02:40] <Lukian> CaptainMorgan: download it from sun :p
[02:40] <apokryphos> !tell CaptainMorgan about sunjava
[02:40] <JPohlmann> Stormx2: Some error in run-mozilla.sh (segmentation fault)?
[02:40] <DrAllcome> Lukian, I search the programmname for the remote desktop tool which you can found in menu application/network ...
[02:41] <DrAllcome> Lukian, the second one ... :) what is the name of this paket?
[02:41] <Lukian> listed them above..
[02:41] <Taliesin`> Heyya - is there some sort of central ubuntu manage - have around 70 computers and it's hard to run around and get them to run updates - or commands on each (cron jobbing apt-get update isnt a secure method for me either)
[02:41] <Taliesin`> I've browsed the wiki - and google wasnt showing any nice help :)
[02:42] <alamba> Taliesin: Google on LTSP, u might want to use that
[02:42] <DrAllcome> I do not have installed ubuntu I use debian testing but and need the paketname that i can run it on my debian machine, Lukian
[02:42] <learnfromscratch> voice comes first.. i mean ahead of action when i play a  avi file.. how do i fix it ?  i use mplayer
[02:43] <coNP> Lukian: what about grdesktop or tsclient?
[02:43] <Taliesin`> thanks alamba - will take a look :)
[02:43] <alamba> yw
[02:43] <malebola> join /#ubuntu-es
[02:43] <vega-> ?
[02:43] <vega-> perhaps "/join #ubuntu-es" ?
[02:44] <Taliesin`> hmmm - they aint thin clients - there all their own workstations - looks like it may give me something to work on thou!!
[02:44] <Taliesin`> Cheers alamba :)
[02:44] <katharina> hello guys
[02:44] <Stormx2> someone give me a hand. Mounted FTP servers are opening in Firefox when selected from the places menu. i want them to open in File Browser. Please, can someone help?
[02:44] <katharina> I use serpentine for burning audio cds
[02:44] <coNP> Taliesin`: what's wrong with cron-apt?
[02:44] <Stormx2> (Nautilus)
[02:44] <Taliesin`> it's not just apt i want to be able to use remotly
[02:45] <katharina> Now, I bought a new cd-burner, wich works well with k3b, gnomebaker and so on
[02:45] <katharina> serpentine does not find it
[02:45] <katharina> what can I do?
[02:45] <Taliesin`> every now and then we have a bunch of scripts to change some things in configs etc on the fly :)
[02:45] <Taliesin`> add rules to iptables etc :)
[02:46] <vega-> btw, should tomcat be in breezy?
[02:46] <alamba> Stormx2: tried gftp? works wonders for me!
[02:46] <vega-> because mod-jk is one would think tomcat should be?
[02:46] <Stormx2> alamba: Not the problem at all.
[02:46] <vega-> if not, does someone know of a repo that has tomcat?
[02:47] <Stormx2> alamba: The default action is nautilus. i tried gFTP, don't like it. Nautilus handles FTP directories fine. I can't figure out how to change the default action
[02:47] <Stormx2> *the default action is firefox
[02:47] <Stormx2> This happened after I set firefox as the default browser
[02:47] <katharina> nobody has an idea?
[02:48] <Stormx2> Heres an idea. What does everyone have in System > preferences > preferred applications
[02:49] <alamba> Storm: hmm..interesting...when I open ssh using places to my server it opens it in nautilus...will just check ftp
[02:49] <Stormx2> Come on. 2 clicks and it could help a lot
[02:49] <Stormx2> :(
[02:49] <Stormx2> alamba: yeah
[02:49] <Stormx2> alamba: After i set firefox as the default browser
[02:49] <Stormx2> alamba: it said it wasn't so I foolish clicked "set as default browser"
[02:50] <sorush20> guys how do I find out what my current monitor refreshrates are from the x system rather thatn anything else?
[02:50] <keiron> i want to install sshfs, but sudo apt-get install doesn't have it. do i need to change my software updates section to include multiverse or something similar?
[02:51] <alamba> storm: interesting...lets see if there's a way to reverse that
[02:51] <Stormx2> alamba: I fixed it, thanks to someone in gnome
[02:51] <Ng> keiron: yes, although universe :)
[02:51] <Stormx2> alamba: I checked the gconf for ftp links
[02:51] <deltron> keiron: it's in universe
[02:51] <vega-> keiron: Section: universe/utils
[02:51] <alamba> storm: cool...how did u do it?
[02:52] <CaptainMorgan> after typeing "sudo dpkg -filename.deb" i get an error that dpkg: conflicting actions --field and --install
[02:52] <keiron> ok thanks. ill check the community maintained (universe) option for all three repositories
[02:52] <Stormx2> alamba: in gconf, /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp
[02:52] <CaptainMorgan> -ifilename
[02:52] <MoonRanger> why when i add a package to ubuntu via synaptic does it not make menu additions to run the programs
[02:52] <Stormx2> MoonRanger: Depends on the program
[02:52] <Stormx2> MoonRanger: Some do some don't
[02:52] <Aquarion> Captain: Add a space after the -i
[02:53] <MoonRanger> was trying to install Mame Emulator and Snes
[02:53] <MoonRanger> Emulator
[02:53] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: You need to type sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:53] <Aquarion> Otherwise you're trying to effectivly do "dpkg -i -f -i -l -e -n -a -m -e"
[02:53] <Stormx2> MoonRanger: Alt + F2, type mame, or whatever. it may autofill for you
[02:53] <sorush20> where is xorg configuration files?
[02:53] <Aquarion> /etc/X11
[02:53] <Stormx2> !xorg
[02:53] <ubotu> methinks xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:54] <Stormx2> Thats the wizard
[02:54] <ronja> hallo
[02:54] <TheDonn> Anyone know of 3rd party software for the IPod?
[02:54] <CaptainMorgan> uhm... Im doing what the bot said... is 'filename.deb' the actual name ?
[02:54] <DjDarkman> hy ,i want to change the mount point for a fat32 partition ,and i want to make it writable ,to every user ,is there a program that can do this for me and worx correctly?
[02:54] <ronja> hi
[02:54] <alamba> storm: thanks!
[02:55] <lysis> CaptainMorgan, filename.deb is the filename that ends with the extension .deb   so you should have a file that ends .deb
[02:55] <ronja> HALLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:55] <Stormx2> Calm down!
[02:55] <alphy> I can't change my screen resolution.  anyone help?
[02:55] <Stormx2> alphy: What happens when you try?
[02:55] <Aquarion> DJ: Yes, mount will.
[02:55] <alamba> alphy: what system?
[02:55] <ronja> whats that for a silly chatt????
[02:55] <alphy> ubuntu, the only choices it gives me is 640 x 480.
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> well wtf? what would the bot say that??? somebody please fix the bot? it was asked a 'specific' question.. not about foo.bar files
[02:56] <Stormx2> alphy: Ah
[02:56] <Jochen> Hi people! I am facing problems installing suns jdk on debian
[02:56] <Jochen> Can somebody help me?!
[02:56] <Stormx2> alphy: Start terminal and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:56] <ronja> Do you know Tokio Hotel????
[02:56] <sorush20> gusy I can't start kate from terminal? any ideas
[02:56] <sorush20> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[02:56] <dewdude> ok, here's my problem. i've got my music drive mounted in /media/hdb1 and i did a mount --bind of my music dirve to Desktop/music. Every other player is fine..they'll read the files with no problem...XMMS however...you try to load ANY folder with a bracket ([Artist]  Album) and it just, browses to the same useless folder with the same useless files. any idea on make stuff work
[02:56] <Stormx2> alphy: Keep hitting enter till you get to the screen res bit. Then add all the resolutions you know your monitor can support
[02:56] <TheDonn> DjDarkman, edit your fstab
[02:57] <Stormx2> dewdude: XMMS is outdated anyway. I'm not suprised
[02:57] <Aquarion> CaptainMorgan, What do you want to do?
[02:57] <DjDarkman> TheDonn, can u explain?
[02:57] <alphy> forgive me, I've had only had linux for 2 days, can you give me a step by step.  I don't even know what the terminal is
[02:57] <CaptainMorgan> Aquarion, install java
[02:57] <Stormx2> dewdude: Try using beep-media-player
[02:57] <CaptainMorgan> ok.. I did sudo dpkg - *.deb
[02:57] <BooZee> some of the applications that I use here in ubuntu, are loaded real ugly! they are all gray and with ugly fonts... how can I make it look like most of the ubuntu programs ?
[02:57] <Stormx2> dewdude: Thats XMMS with GTK2
[02:57] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: No!
[02:57] <CaptainMorgan> Stormx2,  ?
[02:57] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[02:58] <Stormx2> -i is an option, it means install
[02:58] <CaptainMorgan> Stormx2, yues
[02:58] <CaptainMorgan> that's what I did
[02:58] <dewdude> Stormx2, same plugins?
[02:58] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: ok.. I did sudo dpkg - *.deb
[02:58] <CaptainMorgan> I fack up typing in irc
[02:58] <Stormx2> Oh....
[02:58] <dewdude> like..i need comprehensive format support
[02:58] <Aquarion> CaptainMorgan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[02:58] <TheDonn> DjDarkman, I msged you
[02:58] <Stormx2> dewdude: Most, I think
[02:58] <sorush20> anyone here want to help me about kate?
[02:58] <rain> how can i listen mp3-s in ubuntu linux?
[02:58] <Stormx2> !mp3
[02:59] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:59] <deltron> not gonna get the msg unless he's regged/identified
[02:59] <Jochen> If I run the command: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin I receive this error message: No matching plugin was found.
[02:59] <Stormx2> ^^ rain ^^
[02:59] <dewdude> hrmm
[02:59] <dewdude> ok
[02:59] <rain> thanx at the sec
[02:59] <pm> hey
[02:59] <alphy> anybody gonna help me?
[02:59] <Stormx2> alphy: What do you need?
[02:59] <TheDonn> Has anyone got the new video IPod working on ubuntu?
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan> Package j2re1.4 is a virtual package provided by:
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan>   sun-j2sdk1.4 1.4.2+09
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan>   sun-j2re1.4 1.4.2+09
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan> You should explicitly select one to install.
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan> sorry
[02:59] <alphy> the screen resolution?  I can't change it?
[02:59] <Stormx2> alphy: I gave you what you needed to do to change screen resolutions
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> didn't mean that...
[03:00] <alphy> and I don't know how to do it
[03:00] <Stormx2> alphy: Start terminal and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". Keep hitting enter till you get to the screen res bit. Then add all the resolutions you know your monitor can support
[03:00] <TheDonn> alphy, whats your GFX card & monitor?
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> why is it not an installation candidate?
[03:00] <alphy> Stormx2:  how do I start the terminal?
[03:00] <pm> tell me one thing, folks
[03:00] <Stormx2> alphy: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> I tog that return from the first thing it told me to do in Aquarion 's link...
[03:01] <void^> CaptainMorgan: it told you. there's jdk and jre. it can't guess what you want.
[03:01] <pm> why gtk1 apps have such terrible fonts?
[03:01] <alphy> stormx2:  thanks, I'm very very new to linux
[03:01] <BooZee> some of the applications that I use here in ubuntu, are loaded real ugly! they are all gray and with ugly fonts... how can I make it look like most of the ubuntu programs ?
[03:01] <Stormx2> alphy: No problem :)
[03:01] <Stormx2> alphy: Sorry if i was a little harsh
[03:01] <topyli> any easy way to make a video cd from an xvid avi file?
[03:02] <bkw> Running kubuntu 5.10, does that mean I can't install vlc from debian sid?
[03:02] <pm> on mandriva they looked much much better! :(
[03:02] <Stormx2> pm: Meh, I hate gtk1 anyway
[03:02] <topyli> nautilus should have "burn video cd" on the right click menu :)
[03:02] <Stormx2> pm: I stay well clear of it ;0)
[03:02] <Ng> pm: I think it's because there isn't a decent gtk1 theme installed
[03:02] <Stormx2> topyli: for teh pr0n
[03:02] <HappyFool> topyli: i am definitely not an expert, but you could look into transcode. i don't know about ``easy'', though
[03:02] <[SuN] > how can I install codecs for video and sound
[03:03] <Ng> [SuN] : see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[03:03] <pm> I know it's antialiaing matter but even MS fonts look terrible,
[03:03] <Aquarion> CaptainMorgan, You probably want  sun-j2re1.4 1.4.2+09
[03:03] <topyli> Stormx2: not this time :) -it's start wreck
[03:03] <rosen> Figured I'd give sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg a look aswell ... now does anyone know if gforce fx5200 supports kernel framebuffering ?
[03:03] <CaptainMorgan>  void^ how do i tell it which version?
[03:03] <Aquarion> (Which is the runtime, rather than the development kit)
[03:03] <void^> .. install one of the packages specified..
[03:03] <topyli> HappyFool: yeah, it should work, but i'm not ready to learn today :)
[03:03] <CaptainMorgan> Aquarion, apt-get ignores whitesapce ?
[03:04] <pm> BTW, is there a kubuntu channel?
[03:04] <Ng> rosen: the rivafb framebuffer driver ought to work, but you can't use that and X at the same time
[03:04] <Stormx2> pm: Think so. Try #kubuntu, maybe?
[03:04] <teroedni> pm Yes
[03:04] <HappyFool> topyli: heh. fair enough ;). the transcode man page intimidated me no end
[03:04] <Aquarion> CaptainMorgan, sun-j2re1.4 then
[03:04] <pm> thanks :)
[03:04] <Aquarion> And no, it doesn't, I just copied and pasted too much
[03:04] <rosen> Ng, the terminal selected <off> as default so I guess I better keep it that way
[03:05] <alphy> stormx2:  okay, I did that, and it didn't show up in the change screen resolution app
[03:05] <Ng> rosen: yes. you can still use a vga framebuffer if you want a huge console for some reason
[03:05] <dallows> hey
[03:05] <rosen> Ng, My main issue was to try a different driver for my gfx card and I did so I guess I should see if that helps first
[03:05] <CaptainMorgan> supposedly it's already installed...
[03:05] <CaptainMorgan> wtf
[03:05] <pm> How long have you been using this fantastic distro?
[03:05] <rosen> Ng, I just want my graphics to stop being choppy ;)
[03:05] <dallows> >>>> How Can I install gcc3 plz ?? I have gcc4 right now but verlihub doesnt runs on gcc4 :-( <<<<
[03:06] <Stormx2> alphy: The resolutions you selected didn't show up? You selected them with space?
[03:06] <teroedni> rosenWhich grapics card are you running?
[03:06] <Stormx2> alphy: I'm just asking, there may be another step needed
[03:06] <Ng> rosen: I wouldn't bother with framebuffers to try and debug that - did you install/configure the binary nvidia driver? By default X will be using a free nvidia driver that is fairly poor at some things
[03:06] <the_mr_bong_show> hello
[03:06] <rosen> teroedni, gforce fx5200
[03:06] <Aquarion> CaptainMorgan, Then try "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[03:06] <albacker> !backports
[03:06] <ubotu> hmm... backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:06] <Ng> dallows: search apt for gcc-3
[03:07] <alphy> stormx2:  there was already an * beside the ones my monitor supports so they were already selected
[03:07] <teroedni> rosen:Pci agp pci/ex
[03:07] <rosen> Ng, yeah I installed the one from nvidia.com .. but I noticed in Xorg that ti used a driver called NV instead of Nvidia so trying that out now ... when I'm done with all the Xorg things ;)
[03:07] <rosen> teroedni, agp
[03:07] <teroedni> rosen:Installed nvidia glx?
[03:07] <the_mr_bong_show> may i ask some noob questions coz i been using only widows untill yesterday and i dont know a damn thing about Ubuntu
[03:07] <Ng> rosen: the nv driver is the free one, change it to "nvidia" - also the nvidia drivers are available in ubuntu, no need to install them from nvidia.com
[03:07] <Stormx2> alphy: Save all work, and press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace. That restarts X. log in and try again. Sometimes X doesn't do things properly when starting up
[03:07] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: ask away, if someone can help you, they will :)
[03:07] <rosen> teroedni, no idea .. I just found the driver on nvidia.com
[03:08] <Stormx2> alphy: X is windowing system, by the way
[03:08] <rosen> Ng, ah allright .. I'll see if this helps
[03:08] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks
[03:08] <teroedni> rosen:Best to use u8buntus nvidia driver
[03:08] <Ng> rosen: there's a wiki page that explains the full procedure for configuring the binary nvidia driver :)
[03:08] <dewdude> AHHHHHHHHH
[03:08] <dewdude> this isn't working
[03:09] <dewdude> i wish i stayed in windows
[03:09] <rosen> ah allright I'll see if I can find it if this didnt help
[03:09] <Stormx2> dewdude: Whats the problem?
[03:09] <the_mr_bong_show> you see i download winrar for linux and i dont know how to install it i am use to clicking the exe and let it install to c:\program files blah blah could some one help
[03:09] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Uneeded
[03:09] <teroedni> ng:Why dont you give a link?
[03:09] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Go into synaptic and search for "rar"
[03:09] <alphy> stormx2:  nope, stilll not there
[03:09] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: That is all you need to unrar things
[03:09] <dewdude> well
[03:09] <bkw> Running kubuntu 5.10, does that mean I can't install vlc from debian sid?
[03:09] <dewdude> if i try to install any beep plugins
[03:09] <pm> sudo apt-get install rar
[03:09] <topyli> the_mr_bong_show: there is no winrar for linux
[03:09] <dewdude> it just breaks
[03:10] <deFrysk> the_mr_bong_show, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:10] <dewdude> so
[03:10] <dewdude> i'm stuck here..with incomplete audio support
[03:10] <bkw> What do I need in my sources.list to be able to install latest vlc?
[03:10] <dewdude> and 85% of my music not playable
[03:10] <deltron> WINrar
[03:10] <deltron> lol
[03:10] <the_mr_bong_show> whats synaptic
[03:10] <dewdude> and i'm wondering why i left windows
[03:10] <Stormx2> alphy: it may be that your graphics card has the wrong drivers. Post a topic in hardware help at ubuntuforums.org, give your graphics card
[03:10] <Ng> teroedni: because I don't have the link to hand and he/she can probably find it as quickly as I can
[03:10] <Ng> teroedni: it's not hard to go to wiki.ubuntu.com and put nvidia in the search box, imho :)
[03:10] <alphy> stormx2:  it's a geforce
[03:10] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Synaptic is the package manager for Ubuntu. You download whatever programs you need in it
[03:11] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[03:11] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Run search for "rar". i think the packages are called rar-free and rar-nonfree
[03:11] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[03:11] <pm> The_mr_bong_show, first you must edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add repositories
[03:11] <Stormx2> deltron: Why isn't it playable?
[03:11] <deltron> eh?
[03:12] <Stormx2> pm: is it in universe?
[03:12] <teroedni> rosen:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[03:12] <Stormx2> deltron: Wrong person >.<
[03:12] <pm> you can do this via source-o-matic
[03:12] <deltron> lol k
[03:12] <Stormx2> dewdude: Why isn't it playable
[03:12] <Stormx2> !sources.list
[03:12] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:12] <Stormx2> Use the source-o-matic and enable universe
[03:12] <Stormx2> then install the rar packages
[03:12] <Stormx2> (and multiverse)
[03:13] <dewdude> well
[03:13] <dewdude> for starters...gstreamer isn't playing monkeys audio
[03:13] <dewdude> even tho, i've got the plugins installed
[03:13] <Stormx2> dewdude: What format?
[03:13] <dewdude> monkeys audio
[03:13] <Stormx2> Never heard of it
[03:13] <dewdude> .ape
[03:13] <Stormx2> o.O
[03:13] <dewdude> it's lossless
[03:13] <Stormx2> O.O
[03:13] <dewdude> it was around before FLAC
[03:13] <Stormx2> Hmm, OK
[03:14] <Stormx2> He has the gst plugin installed?
[03:14] <Stormx2> you*
[03:14] <CaptainMorgan> how do I read the next character? C would be getchar.. what's equivalent in Java ?
[03:14] <dewdude> yeah
[03:14] <dewdude> i do
[03:14] <dewdude> and it doesn't show up as a supported format
[03:14] <Stormx2> dewdude: Right, what player are you using?
[03:15] <dewdude> Kaffeine
[03:15] <dewdude> i'm getting ready to try armarok
[03:15] <dewdude> amarok
[03:15] <CaptainMorgan> omg.. wrong channle!
[03:15] <pm> amarok rules!!
[03:15] <Stormx2> dewdude: Make sure they are gst based, otherwise a gst plugin wouldn't work
[03:15] <Stormx2> ^_^
[03:15] <CaptainMorgan> amarok does rule
[03:15] <dewdude> amarok and kaffeine are gst based
[03:16] <Stormx2> MSN is dead >.<
[03:16] <deFrysk> amarok also can use an xine engine or arts engine
[03:16] <apokryphos> dewdude: gst? Kaffeine uses xine by default
[03:16] <aqua> hello, could somebody point me in the right direction on where to change the following setting:
[03:16] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install amarok-engines
[03:16] <bkw> anyone with VLC player and ubuntu5.10?
[03:16] <aqua> i am using kdm, but want to use gdm
[03:16] <apokryphos> not in Kubuntu though, perhaps; I think they're going for consistency on gst
[03:16] <aqua> i have them both installed
[03:16] <Ng> Stormx2: messenger? connected fine here, and what's with all the damn anime smilies? ;)
[03:16] <Stormx2> Ng: .___.
[03:17] <alphy> so nobody else can help me with the screen resolution?
[03:17] <Stormx2> Ng: Don't know. I can't connect to the server, but no great loss.
[03:17] <Stormx2> alphy: It may be a driver problem
[03:17] <pm> you can uninstall gdm :)
[03:17] <Stormx2> alphy: Have you posted on ubuntuforums.org? Sorry I can't help. Someone else here or there may be able to
[03:18] <hwt_> hi.
[03:18] <nickrud> aqua, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:18] <pm> sorry, i mean kdm ;)
[03:18] <hwt_> anyone running dapper+gnome here?
[03:18] <the_mr_bong_show> i cant find the rar anything in the synaptic
[03:18] <hwt_> the gnome panel freezes with a popup saying "Question" now.
[03:18] <hwt_> anyone know of a fix?
[03:18] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: have you added the new repos?
[03:18] <nickrud> aqua, or kdm then :)
[03:18] <aqua> nickrud thanks
[03:18] <the_mr_bong_show> no
[03:18] <Stormx2> hwt_: On startup?
[03:18] <hwt_> if not, dappers; don't upgrade. ;)
[03:18] <rosen> aaaaah SO much better now... I can pwn newbies in Nexuiz now :D
[03:18] <hwt_> Stormx2: yeah.
[03:18] <pm> the_mr_bong_show, edit your sources.list
[03:19] <Ng> hwt_: you shouldn't be running dapper :p
[03:19] <the_mr_bong_show> k
[03:19] <pm> then run apt-get update
[03:19] <aqua> nickrud worked like a charm... thanks
[03:19] <Ng> hwt_: and it's unsupported, so if it broke, you get to keep both pieces ;)
[03:19] <alphy> stormx2:  yes, I don't even know how find out what v card I have.
[03:19] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Use the source-o-matic to add universe and multiverse
[03:19] <hwt_> Ng: i know these things can happen, but i won't run stable anyway.
[03:19] <dewdude> yeah
[03:19] <deltron> dapper is a brave persons version
[03:19] <deltron> lol
[03:19] <hwt_> Ng: stable gives me creeps. ;)
[03:19] <dewdude> gst's monkeys audio doesn't work
[03:19] <Ng> hwt_: your loss :)
[03:19] <Stormx2> alphy: eek. There will be a command, but I don't know it. Anyone can help alphy find out what video card he has?
[03:19] <pm> i've olready told him to use source-o-matk, i gues he did it already ;)
[03:20] <Ng> Stormx2: lspci or X's log should both give a good indication
[03:20] <pm> anyone using dapper already?
[03:20] <Stormx2> Nah
[03:20] <Stormx2> I'll stay with stable
[03:20] <DjDarkman> how can i make a windows partition fully read/writable to all users?
[03:20] <alphy> pm:  how do I get to this source-o-matk?
[03:20] <[SuN] > Ng: ok, thanks, it really halp me. Where apt-get `get' pkgs? Im need download it and install from floppy CD's, machine where I install ubuntu not connected to internet
[03:20] <hwt_> pm: i am.
[03:20] <Stormx2> DjDarkman: what filesystem?
[03:21] <pm> source-o-matic
[03:21] <hwt_> pm: works fine except for the question dialog that hangs.
[03:21] <DjDarkman> fat32
[03:21] <Ng> [SuN] : it grabs them from the URLs in /etc/apt/sources.list and saves them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:21] <Ng> [SuN] : if you download the packages and put them in that archives directory you should be able to use apt-get offline
[03:21] <DjDarkman> i use azureus bit torrent client and it has problems with downloading to it
[03:21] <Stormx2> DjDarkman: Hmm. Should be by default if you added it to fstab. Not sure about mount
[03:21] <void^> dewdude: monkey's audio is non-free. try http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac-port for some plugins.
[03:21] <Stormx2> DjDarkman: Check the wiki page on MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:22] <pm> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:22] <dewdude> whumm
[03:22] <pm> tick all the options you are insterested with
[03:22] <dewdude> I have a GST plugin
[03:22] <dewdude> for monkeys audio
[03:22] <dewdude> it seems to be installed
[03:22] <dewdude> and it's free...just not open-source
[03:23] <dewdude> so stop dissing free but closed-source projects
[03:23] <the_mr_bong_show> i know i am a noob but um huh do i  edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add repositories
[03:23] <pm> then copy/paste the result into /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <the_mr_bong_show> how*
[03:23] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <Ng> dewdude: maybe they meant free as in speech, not free as in beer :)
[03:23] <void^> dewdude: i am just saying it's non-gpl windows-only software without proper documentation.
[03:23] <the_mr_bong_show> sudo gedit?
[03:24] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: sudo gives you root privilages, gedit is an editting program
[03:24] <pm> or sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list if you use kubuntu
[03:24] <dewdude> yes
[03:24] <dewdude> but
[03:24] <dewdude> i've HAD it working before
[03:24] <nickrud> !tell the_mr_bong_show about repositories
[03:24] <dewdude> if i could use XMMS, it would be
[03:24] <kestas> or sudo nano if you dont like running graphical tools as root
[03:24] <dewdude> but XMMS won't work right..and every beep package comes up as BREAK for action
[03:24] <kestas> opens up a whole can of worms iirc
[03:25] <lisi> hello, use someone ubuntu on a mew MacMini with 5400 rpm HD?
[03:25] <the_mr_bong_show> sorry Stormx2 but i never messed with ubuntu till yesterday
[03:25] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, that link will walk you through adding more repos
[03:25] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: No problem!
[03:25] <pm> the_mr_bong_show, then open your terminal and run sudo apt-get update
[03:25] <dewdude> so, i'm stuck here trying to put the puzzle together before i get to the point i just put windows back on here
[03:26] <nickrud> dewdude, I don't think many people here have ever used that unFree plugin, so they can't help
[03:26] <Stormx2> Haha go into OOo2 Calc and type =game(). it will go "say what?" then type =GAME("StarWars")
[03:26] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks
[03:26] <dewdude> whatever...just..if you're not going to help and just sit there and spot to me how it's not a free format, save your fingers
[03:26] <dewdude> i don't care
[03:26] <void^> dewdude: well, i haven't encountered an ape file in years and there's no sample on their homepage.. so i can't even try it.
[03:27] <Stormx2> dewdude: A lot of plugins are non-free, I don't mind.
[03:27] <duke> hi there.
[03:27] <Stormx2> heya
[03:27] <pm> hi duke
[03:27] <the_mr_bong_show> is teminal like word pad
[03:27] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: No
[03:27] <dewdude> well...i know it works on XMMS
[03:27] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: its like command line, dos
[03:27] <dewdude> i just can't get XMMS to access my music
[03:27] <dewdude> and i can't install anything for beep
[03:27] <dewdude> adept won't let me
[03:27] <rosen> any apps you guys can recommend to browse and listen to streamed radio ?
[03:27] <dewdude> it just breaks
[03:27] <Stormx2> dewdude: Install anything for beep. Like what?
[03:27] <void^> the link i gave you has a bmp plugin
[03:27] <kemik> dewdude:  XMMS should be working
[03:27] <kemik> and beep aswell
[03:28] <Stormx2> rosen; BMPx, BMP, XMMS. BMPx is your best bet.
[03:28] <dewdude> XMMS works
[03:28] <dewdude> i can't access my music
[03:28] <dewdude> it's doing strange things
[03:28] <duke> i ve just tried to install eclipse via apt! but I cant start eclipse, unfortunately. it will appear always the same error-message
[03:28] <dewdude> i click an album folder...it ALWAYS loads the same useless folder
[03:28] <void^> i don't use xmms, but bmp has no issues with brackets in filenames or directories.
[03:28] <dewdude> plus, when i try to use adapt to install XMMS plugins...the action comes up as BREAK (install)
[03:28] <dewdude> same with beep plugins
[03:28] <Stormx2> dewdude: XMMS?
[03:28] <rosen> Stormx2, I'll look it up thanks matey
[03:28] <dewdude> yeah
[03:28] <pm> the_mr_bong-show, which one you use KDE  or GNOME?
[03:28] <duke> does somebody have had the same prob or know a solution
[03:28] <Stormx2> dewdude: Try BMP the
[03:29] <Stormx2> dewdude: apt-get install beep-media-player
[03:29] <pm> ununtu or kubuntu?
[03:29] <lisi> dewdude, I hope yuo have 3D acceleration enabled of yuor card.
[03:29] <dewdude> i don't
[03:29] <lisi> duke, sorry
[03:29] <lisi> :D
[03:29] <dewdude> ATI
[03:29] <lisi> dewdude, :)
[03:29] <duke> :-)
[03:29] <duke> :-(
[03:29] <dewdude> 3d dri doesn't work
[03:29] <Stormx2> stop with the smilies
[03:29] <dewdude> i need to stick my nvidia card in here
[03:30] <lisi> I like nvidia so much :)
[03:30] <kemik> Stormx2:  nice easter-egg ;)
[03:30] <void^> ati's drivers are pretty crappy. only use them when necessary (like playing nwn, or epsxe)
[03:30] <Stormx2> kemik: say what?!
[03:30] <duke> has anyone an idee??? please!
[03:30] <dewdude> heh
[03:30] <dewdude> well
[03:30] <dewdude> glxgears runs slowly
[03:30] <kemik> Stormx2:  in openoffice
[03:30] <dewdude> never shows a fps
[03:30] <rosen> hmm BMPx is not part of the repos
[03:31] <dewdude> i've got an nvidia card here
[03:31] <rosen> !BMPx
[03:31] <ubotu> rosen: Are you on ritalin?
[03:31] <Stormx2> kemik: its a starwars game, lol
[03:31] <rosen> ubotu, nah I ran out
[03:31] <ubotu> rosen: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:31] <pm> BMPx? what's that?
[03:31] <Aquarion> duke, Sorry, I never got eclipse to work either
[03:31] <rosen> NO HABLA
[03:31] <dewdude> i need to fix the heatsink, change my xconfig and install the binary drivers for it
[03:31] <kemik> Stormx2:  yea i tried it... it's called "easter eggs" when they're hidden apps inside apps
[03:31] <Stormx2> pm: BMPx is a total BMP re-write.
[03:31] <duke> Aquarion, that means the same prolem?
[03:31] <dewdude> i need a cigarette, bbiafm
[03:31] <Stormx2> kemik: Ohhh. I always called them mini-games
[03:32] <Aquarion> duke, Yup.
[03:32] <duke> Aquarion, sh...
[03:32] <Aquarion> I'd say it's probably something to do with the Java setup, but as I say, I wasn't able to debug it
[03:32] <pm> why is it better than BMP?
[03:32] <duke> Aquarion, what have you done so? Other Ide
[03:32] <Stormx2> pm: Media Library, Radio Listings (shoutcast/icecase), and some other stuff
[03:32] <kemik> Stormx2:  http://www.eeggs.com/
[03:32] <Aquarion> duke, I ended up using Kate
[03:32] <topyli> pm: also it's actually still maintained
[03:33] <kemik> :)
[03:33] <Stormx2> pm: I use a build of BMP called Audacious, thought
[03:33] <Aquarion> and vim
[03:33] <DjDarkman> Stormx2, i have problems with the https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DutchTeam ,can u give me an exact link to the mounting part?
[03:33] <pm> thanks, I must check this out
[03:33] <lisi> Stormx2, shoutcast, I need to stream music...is it possibile?
[03:33] <duke> Aquarion, hmm that cant be a solution!
[03:34] <Stormx2> lisi: Indeed it is.
[03:34] <topyli> duke: it's been a solution for quite some time .)
[03:34] <Stormx2> lisi: Wait, stream music in or stream music out?
[03:35] <pm> is there a deb for ubuntu of do i need to compile it myself?
[03:35] <lisi> stream music out
[03:35] <lisi> I know that with winamp in windows + some plugin it's possible
[03:36] <duke> Topyli, yes thats true but i have to lean for an Algorithm and Datastructures exam! I need it!! ;-)
[03:36] <lisi> I'd like to do the same with linux.
[03:36] <topyli> lisi: try vlc
[03:37] <duke> Aquarion, yeah yeah yeah, i ve solved the prob!!!!
[03:37] <lisi> topyli, can I stream my playlist?
[03:37] <void^> lisi: icecast + xmms plugin
[03:37] <bkw> How can I make a external usb harddrive be mounted with write permissions?
[03:37] <Aquarion> duke, Oh?
[03:38] <topyli> lisi: no idea how it works. all i know it will stream stuff :)
[03:38] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i have added the new repos and i did a search for rar and i dont see any thing
[03:38] <lisi> topyli, thnx
[03:38] <topyli> the_mr_bong_show: try hitting the "refresh" button
[03:38] <Stormx2> bkw: You know its address?
[03:39] <keiron> hello
[03:39] <duke> Aquarion, yeah , You have to insert in /etc/eclipse/java_home the path to a self-downloadet Version of SDK , it works!
[03:39] <Stormx2> Anyone else having problems with MSN?
[03:39] <Stormx2> >.<
[03:40] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i did and nothin
[03:40] <Aquarion> Stormx2, Various people on various channels have mentioned such. I'm fine, but others aren't.
[03:40] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: What did you do?
[03:40] <topyli> i have many problems with MS and MSN
[03:40] <Stormx2> Aquarion: Maybe its the UK servers, haha
[03:40] <Aquarion> Stormx2, I'm in the UK
[03:40] <kemik> !gimp
[03:40] <ubotu> well, gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[03:40] <Stormx2> haha true
[03:40] <kemik> arhg
[03:40] <the_mr_bong_show> i did what the site told me to do
[03:40] <the_mr_bong_show> thats all
[03:40] <kemik> what's the gimp to photoschop plugin called?
[03:40] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Which is......
[03:41] <Stormx2> kemik: Save as .psd?
[03:41] <dewdude> well..beep will work
[03:41] <dewdude> i gotta go
[03:41] <kemik> Stormx2:  nah, the thing that makes gimp behave more like photoshop
[03:42] <the_mr_bong_show> st of repositories is shown. Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Then click the Close button.You should now see checkboxes next to the repositories. Scroll down and enable the Universe repository by ticking the checkbox next to Community Maintained (Universe). Click OK to save your settings. You may also want to enable Multiverse and the Universe Security updates repositories.
[03:42] <Stormx2> Aquarion: http://status.messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx?mkt=en-gb
[03:42] <pm> you should have unrar-nonfree in multiverse
[03:42] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show; Yeah, install unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[03:43] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i do that
[03:43] <Aquarion> And as you post that my MSN connection goes poof, thanks loads :-P
[03:43] <pm> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:45] <deltron> !rar
[03:45] <ubotu> [rar]  a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:46] <unholy> I've heard that ubuntu has better hardware support than many other distros, and I am currently having trouble with my current flavour of linux. I've been seriously considering changing for a while now. How can I check to see if my hardware is supported?
[03:46] <deltron> unholy: try the livecd
[03:46] <Ng> the wiki has some supported hardware information too I think
[03:46] <Neoandini> HELLO EVERYBODY
[03:46] <the_mr_bong_show> ty ubotu
[03:47] <Stormx2> Aquarion: haha
[03:47] <unholy> thats great. Thanks for the suggestion deltron.
[03:47] <unholy> Ng: Ill check the wiki too. Thankyou.
[03:47] <deltron> ok
[03:47] <Stormx2> unholy: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SupportedHardware <-- I think
[03:48] <unholy> thanks Stormx2
[03:49] <the_mr_bong_show> when i open terminal it opens with a rusty@ then a bunck of numbers like an ip addy and a :-$ what is that
[03:49] <Aquarion> Stormx2, Yeah, saw it, thanks :-)
[03:50] <Aquarion> Er, ignore that
[03:50] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: that's your hostname
[03:50] <Aquarion> I need to scroll more...
[03:50] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: the ~$ at the end is the current directory you are in (although the $ isn't part of it, that indicates you are not root
[03:51] <the_mr_bong_show> ok lets say i need to edit somthing can i jut back space over that or work around it
[03:51] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me how to make a fat32 partition writeable to all users?
[03:53] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: it's not part of the command, so you can just start typing a command and hit enter, there's no need to delete it
[03:54] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Its like in DOS you might have A:>. You just ignore it. it shows your current computer, hostname, directory, etc
[03:54] <Jonas^> DjDarkman, the man page for mount mentions a umask option under fat-specific options. sounds ilke it might do what you need.
[03:54] <Stormx2> DjDarkman: using fstab?
[03:54] <Aquarion> It does, yes
[03:54] <Stormx2> Yeah
[03:54] <Stormx2> Try
[03:54] <Stormx2> umask=0000
[03:55] <DjDarkman> I mounted it successfully ,but my azuresus cant write to it
[03:55] <Aquarion> Or, you can put all the members into a group (fatwrite, for example) and then set the GID when you mount it
[03:55] <Aquarion> which is slightly more sane than blanket world write access
[03:55] <Stormx2> DjDarkman: Can you write to it in file browser?
[03:55] <Stormx2> DjDarkman: Try renaming a file
[03:55] <hugelmopf> DjDarkman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:56] <the_mr_bong_show> whats this mean bash: unrar: command not found
[03:56] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: What did you try and do?
[03:56] <hugelmopf> DjDarkman: see "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table" section
[03:56] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Have you installed rar-nonfree?
[03:56] <the_mr_bong_show> no
[03:56] <the_mr_bong_show> i dont know how
[03:56] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: You need to do
[03:56] <Stormx2> that
[03:56] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: System > Adminstration > Synaptic
[03:56] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Run a search for "rar"
[03:56] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[03:57] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[03:57] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Right click > Install. Then apply changes
[03:58] <rain> how to i create su password
[03:58] <the_mr_bong_show> i ha ve searched for rar and i can find it and i did the resos thing
[03:58] <the_mr_bong_show> cant
[03:58] <idefix> how can I overcome a mount error
[03:58] <idefix> ?
[03:58] <rain> how can i create su password
[03:59] <idefix> Unable to mount the selected volume. Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume... :(
[03:59] <cagatay> hi someone from germany here who can help me???
[03:59] <idefix> I guess linux is not so compatible after all
[03:59] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: I have multiverse enabled and I can see "rar" and "unrar-nonfree" in it, or "unrar-free" in universe. did you do a "sudo apt-get update" or hit the Reload button in synaptic?
[03:59] <idefix> ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch
[03:59] <cagatay> hi idefix
[04:00] <idefix> was kann ich fuer Sie tun?
[04:00] <cagatay> ich brauche kurz hilfe bin neueinsteiger bei ubuntu linux
[04:00] <the_mr_bong_show> hit relload
[04:00] <rain> or what i type to the password when linux asks me it _
[04:00] <idefix> ich habe jetzt seit anderthalb Monaten linux ubuntu
[04:00] <cagatay> mein problem ist das ich bei der installation von ubuntu kein root pw einstellen kann
[04:00] <djk_> !de
[04:00] <ubotu> de is probably Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:00] <idefix> bei mir ist es gelungen
[04:00] <cagatay> bzw wenn ich mich als root einlogen will geht es nicht weil das pw falsch ist
[04:00] <cagatay> da ich keins eingestellt habe...
[04:01] <cagatay> wie kann ich nun ein root pw einstellen
[04:01] <djk_> !sudo
[04:01] <cagatay> im nachhinhein???
[04:01] <the_mr_bong_show> i see the unrar_free
[04:01] <idefix> ja, geht sudo nicht?
[04:01] <the_mr_bong_show> i see the unrar-free
[04:01] <zeeky> GAH!
[04:01] <idefix> ich glaubte das sudo war fuer das executen von commando's als root-user
[04:01] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: that means you have universe available at least
[04:02] <zeeky> the pepole at #octeams at zirc are windows idiots!
[04:02] <the_mr_bong_show> but thats it
[04:02] <void^> cagatay: sudo su passwd. und /join #ubuntu-de oder english.
[04:02] <idefix> cagatay? are you trying sudo now?
[04:02] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: perhaps the multiverse repository isn't enabled properly
[04:02] <void^> -su
[04:02] <rain> sudo and what command whit it
[04:02] <cagatay> yes
[04:02] <dinocazares> Hi
[04:02] <cagatay> im trying sudo now
[04:02] <cagatay> but it dont work
[04:03] <idefix> don't you need an initial password to run sudo su passwd.?
[04:03] <dinocazares> I need help to mount an lvm partition
[04:03] <rain> ok i'll try
[04:03] <cagatay> after im entering sudo
[04:03] <cagatay> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[04:03] <cagatay> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[04:03] <cagatay>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command>
[04:03] <the_mr_bong_show> i did what this site told me to do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:03] <djk_> cagatay: read what ubotu sent you
[04:03] <idefix> ich bin ueberfragt
[04:04] <cagatay> ok
[04:04] <cagatay> just a mom
[04:04] <cagatay> hmmm
[04:04] <rain> jeah it worked thanx
[04:05] <idefix> I scanned something in windows, it is impossible to open this in linux now?
[04:05] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: check the repositories configuration again for multiverse. if you are sure it is enabled, please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[04:05] <idefix> I thought the to OSses were at least a bit compatible...
[04:05] <dinocazares> How do I mount an ext3 filesystem which is in an lvm volume?
[04:05] <the_mr_bong_show> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <Ng> idefix: GIMP should be able to handle pretty much any graphics file a windows scanning tool has created I would think
[04:05] <the_mr_bong_show> ash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[04:06] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" - it's a file, not a command
[04:06] <cagatay> i want to connect to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo but ubuntu want a exmine certificate????
[04:06] <djk_> cagatay: accept it
[04:06] <cagatay> why?
[04:06] <djk_> cagatay: for the fun of it..
[04:07] <goki-> Does anyone know why ubuntu loses default route when using openvpn?
[04:07] <cagatay> there is only an examine certificate button a cancel button and an ok button
[04:07] <Ng> click ok
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## distribution.
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:07] <cagatay> ok doesnt affect anything
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[04:07] <Ng> canonical could really do with getting a proper SSL cert for that, or not using ssl :/
[04:07] <djk_> ffs
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## repository.
[04:07] <rev> !fuse
[04:07] <ubotu> rev: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[04:07] <djk_> !pastebin
[04:07] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[04:07] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: I said paste into a pastebin :/
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## team.
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[04:07] <the_mr_bong_show> ## repository.
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[04:08] <CarlFK> noo...
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:08] <djk_> how fucking stupid can one be...
[04:08] <CarlFK> stop the paste
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:08] <idefix> my brain is kaputt
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:08] <grogoreo> hi
[04:08] <Ng> CarlFK: he can't
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> sorry
[04:08] <the_mr_bong_show> whats pastbin
[04:08] <Ng> djk_: that's kinda harsh
[04:08] <Ng> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:08] <cagatay> why the_mr_bong_show  do things like that???
[04:08] <cagatay> :P
[04:08] <grogoreo> is there a tool I can use to convert an M4A to an MP3?
[04:08] <idefix> Ng, I cannot open a file from my floppy disk
[04:08] <djk_> Ng: is it?
[04:09] <Ng> djk_: yes
[04:09] <idefix> Ng (using gimp)
[04:09] <the_mr_bong_show> im sorry every one but that was an acadent
[04:09] <grogoreo> or even better a OGG Vorbis?
[04:09] <the_mr_bong_show> i wont do it again
[04:09] <Ng> djk_: you've never ever made a little mistake?
[04:09] <cagatay> hmm :D
[04:09] <djk_> Ng: no.
[04:09] <Ng> idefix: have you mounted the floppy disk? does gimp fail to load the image?
[04:09] <Ng> djk_: liar :)
[04:09] <djk_> Ng: :p
[04:10] <CarlFK> how do I fax from Open Office?
[04:10] <cagatay> just a question do someone now the german ubuntu irc chan????
[04:10] <djk_> Ng: but i certainly haven't flooded yet..
[04:10] <idefix> Ng I get "Unable to mount the selected volume. Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[04:10] <djk_> !de
[04:10] <ubotu> hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:10] <cagatay> ubuntude
[04:10] <cagatay> ???
[04:10] <djk_> cagatay: wie wr's ma mit lesen^^
[04:10] <cagatay> lol du kannst deutsch
[04:10] <cagatay> wieso schreibst du dann nicht???
[04:10] <Vieira> Hi
[04:11] <idefix> "
[04:11] <djk_> cagatay: weil dies hier ein englishsprachiger channel ist
[04:11] <cagatay> ok
[04:11] <Vieira> Can someone help me with a problem with Ubuntu 6?
[04:11] <cagatay> und querry?
[04:11] <Ng> idefix: seems like that might be a bug in nautilus - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html
[04:11] <CaptainMorgan> no
[04:11] <Ng> Vieira: no
[04:11] <Vieira> Ok, thanks anyway.
[04:11] <Tuntis> Hi all
[04:11] <the_mr_bong_show> Ng i put it in the postbin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5959
[04:12] <sunit> does anyone want to help a poor soul?
[04:12] <Tuntis> I'm getting a GeForce, how would I remove the ati drivers from ubuntu?
[04:12] <cagatay> thx a lot @ all
[04:12] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: if you look at lines 29 and 30 they are the only ones with multiverse enabled and that is the backports source - you need to enable more multiverse stuff :)
[04:12] <sunit> can someone help me with configuring my dhcpd.conf?
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> help me with java and Ill help you
[04:15] <goki-> Something is removing my default route on a regular basis, anyone know what that might be?
[04:15] <thu> How can I install gcc3.4 rather than gcc4.0 on Ubuntu??
[04:15] <the_mr_bong_show> i only had to slections of multiverse in myRepositorie
[04:16] <CaptainMorgan> thu why?
[04:16] <goki-> thu, just install the package
[04:16] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i enable more
[04:16] <thu> CaptainMorgan, Gcc 4 is not compatible with my current source
[04:16] <thu> goki-, which package? i tried gcc-3.4 g+-3.4
[04:17] <thu> but i got error when configuring, saying that i havenot installed gcc
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> thu how do you know that? and what source are you using?
[04:17] <thu> CaptainMorgan, Thank you and I have decided to use 3.4
[04:17] <goki-> thu, gcc-3.4
[04:17] <thu> goki-, I have installed that package
[04:17] <goki-> Some stuff requires 3.4, like mplayer
[04:18] <goki-> thu, gcc will probably still use gcc4 by default, try using the gcc3.4 executable directly
[04:18] <goki-> thu, or there might be an update alternatives thing you can do
[04:18] <thu> Hmmn... goki-  How to do that? i even cannot pass ./configure
[04:19] <thu> hmmn...
[04:19] <goki-> thu, nicer configure scripts will find the gcc version they need, AFAIK
[04:19] <nickrud> thu, CC=gcc-3.4 make , try that
[04:19] <thu> cool nickrud
[04:19] <idefix> right... so there is Nautilus, Breezy and Ubuntu?? are them three all versions of linux?
[04:19] <stevens> what's the best p2p program for Ubuntu?
[04:19] <nickrud> mldonkey
[04:19] <thu> stevens aMule
[04:20] <stevens> aMule?... have a link for me?
[04:20] <CaptainMorgan> thu huh? im not trying to convice you, lol - Im asking you how do you know it's not compatible ?
[04:21] <arnducky> thu, I jsut installed aMule but I haven't been able to figure it out yet -- it has a tonne of features.  Is there a site you recommend with good docs?
[04:21] <nickrud> stevens, sudo apt-get install amule ; if that doesn't work, enable the universe repository and repeat
[04:21] <selinium> ANy one able to help get my microphone working?
[04:21] <CaptainMorgan> were there errors upon a compilation you did?
[04:21] <thu> nickrud, IT WORKS :D ./configure CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4
[04:21] <thu> nickrud, Thank you :)
[04:21] <arnducky> stevens, jsut apt-get install amule (or use synaptic)  It's already packaged for Breezy
[04:21] <stevens> ok thanks dude
[04:21] <nickrud> thu, np
[04:22] <thu> CaptainMorgan, coz I have probed every possible cause of a bug
[04:22] <thu> Thanks for your attention
[04:22] <the_mr_bong_show> whats my  2-letter code of your country im in the usa
[04:22] <selinium> stevens   you can use   apt-cache search <app> to see if it is in the repos..
[04:22] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, us ;)
[04:22] <arnducky> selinium, pastebin $ cat /proc/asound/modules && cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:22] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[04:23] <arnducky> (and make sure everyting is plugged in, of course)
[04:23] <stevens> thank you all... just installed ubuntu a few hours ago and it rocks
[04:23] <james_> hello all
[04:24] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i tell if i am a breezy or a hoary
[04:24] <rosen> Any americans inhere ?
[04:24] <arnducky> nickrud, I'm shocked -- hehehe
[04:24] <thu> arnducky, www.emule-project.net
[04:24] <selinium> the_mr_bong_show,   sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list   you will see in there
[04:24] <nickrud> the_mr_bong_show, lsb_release -a
[04:24] <arnducky> (I thought my dd was broken Sunday night becasue a floppy cable *power* was unplugged -- heh)
[04:25] <rosen> Look at this ... Chaos in NY http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4544650.stm
[04:25] <thu> arnducky, aMule and ED2K is great, I have been using it for over 1 year, a very important thing is to keep your unique ID all the time.
[04:25] <selinium> nickrud, thats a new one for me! Cheers
[04:25] <arnducky> eDonkey 2000?
[04:25] <nickrud> doing this over the net is difficult sometimes :)
[04:25] <thu> arnducky, Yes, it's a p2p protocol
[04:25] <nickrud> selinium, I learned that one here also
[04:25] <thu> arnducky, google it ;)
[04:26] <goki-> ok if I have something using the openvpn, the route will not disappear
[04:26] <selinium> arnducky, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5960  :)
[04:28] <the_mr_bong_show> do i need a firewall
[04:28] <arnducky> I have to do $ hdparm -A1c3 /dev/hde everytime my IDE controller resets that drive or it runs in 16-bit mode how to I set these params permanently?
[04:29] <einPaule> Heyho, quick question: How do I restart CUPS, is there a bash command`
[04:29] <einPaule> ?
[04:30] <Apoc> hello everyonbe
[04:30] <Ng> einPaule: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:30] <einPaule> thanks Ng
[04:30] <thu> Are there any differences between running Ubuntu 32bit on a 32bit CPU and running Ubuntu 32bit on a AMD64 CPU?
[04:30] <Ng> thu: nope
[04:30] <thu> Will Ubuntu 32bit version shield the differences between the CPUs
[04:30] <thu> Ng, Are you sure?
[04:31] <Ng> thu: if you run the 32bit (ie i386) version you are 100% compatible with a regular pentium type system
[04:31] <Ng> I am sure because I run the 32bit ubuntu on my amd64 box at home
[04:31] <thu> Ng, Nothing special so far?
[04:32] <the_mr_bong_show> i found out how to install unrar free and unfree :D thank you stormxt and thank you Ng and nickrud and djk_
[04:32] <alpunk> can any help me fix my resolution?  I have no options exept for 640x480
[04:32] <arnducky> Ng did you have to compile gak with linux32 ?
[04:32] <soundray> ubotu, tell alpunk about fixres
[04:32] <soundray> alpunk, pls read the message from ubotu
[04:32] <Ng> thu: nothing special ever, it's completely identical - the amd64/emt64 CPUs have the full 32bit instruction set available
[04:32] <shadox> hi all
[04:32] <nox-Hand> Hey. How do I quit ssh?
[04:33] <selinium> exit
[04:33] <Ng> arnducky: I didn't compile anything, I'm running the 386 version of ubuntu, not the amd64 one
[04:33] <thu> Ng, then, the bug I have been struggled with for one week must be caused by gcc version
[04:33] <thu> Grrrrrrrrrrrrr gcc 4.0....
[04:33] <alpunk> soundray, there is no msg from ubotu
[04:33] <Ng> thu: why ar eyou using gcc4? that's not in breezy afaik
[04:33] <nox-Hand> selinium, Ah, that simple. Cheers!
[04:33] <soundray> !fixres
[04:33] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:33] <Ng> oh yes it is, nm
[04:33] <shadox> soundray :D
[04:33] <Ng> thu: what are you trying to compile?
[04:33] <thu> Ng, coz if I type apt-get install gcc, the default version is 4.0
[04:34] <thu> Ng, FlightGear
[04:34] <bigman2> Hello
[04:34] <Ng> thu: 0.9.8 is in universe
[04:34] <bigman2> Does anyone know of an ftp i can setup on my ubuntu linux
[04:34] <thu> Ng, I wanna run 0.9.9 ;-)
[04:34] <blizzkid> Lo ppl, I have installed spambayes, which I have to launch by running "sb_server.py" . How can I make this run at startup?
[04:35] <soundray> Hi shadox
[04:35] <soundray> bigman2, do you mean a server?
[04:35] <shadox> soundray, after 5 formats today my ubuntu filannaly runs fine :D
[04:35] <soundray> shadox, well done.
[04:35] <thu> One student of our university, ordered 100 Ubuntu copies from UK and give the left copies to all the people around him :) including roomates and supervisor
[04:36] <thu> That's fun.
[04:36] <bigman2> soundray,  yes
[04:36] <MoonRanger> only took me two formats to get my ubuntu working good
[04:36] <shadox> soundray, thnx
[04:36] <bigman2> i have tried pure ftpd before and it didnt work anyone have an idea what i could try ?
[04:36] <thu> Who ordered the largest number of copies in this room?
[04:37] <soundray> bigman2, there are several. Try 'apt-cache search ftpd' or 'apt-cache search ftp server' and make your pick.
[04:37] <Stormx2> Back
[04:37] <bigman2> wich is easy to comfigure
[04:38] <soundray> bigman2, the netkit one (ftpd) worked out of the box for me.
[04:38] <soundray> bigman2, no guarantees on security, though.
[04:38] <thu> Ng, How can I uninstall the gcc related packages I have just installed completely??
[04:38] <bigman2> soundray, security isnt an issu how do i find the netkit one
[04:38] <Ng> thu: sudo apt-get remove --purge gcc-4.0
[04:38] <soundray> bigman2, apt-get install ftpd
[04:38] <Ng> thu: and any other packages you want to completely remove
[04:39] <thu> Ng, I just hope to remove the packages I installed when i type apt-get install gcc
[04:39] <bigman2> soundray, how will i configure this ?
[04:39] <Nefreyu> hola
[04:39] <soundray> bigman2, as I say, worked out of the box for me.
[04:39] <Euler> i'm trying to install my icplus ethernet card on the 64-bit platform of kubuntu 5.10 (breezy) 64-bit...one of the steps says: c3. Run "netconfig" or "netconf" to create configuration script ifcfg-eth0 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts (since those directories don't exist for me)...how would I set up the configuration script manually?
[04:40] <soundray> bigman2, do 'dpkg -L ftpd | grep etc' after installation to see the config files. Look at /usr/share/doc/ftpd/ for readme files and the like.
[04:41] <blizzkid> How can I run a script at startup?
[04:42] <soundray> blizzkid, add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:42] <thu> Ng, Thanks
[04:42] <the_mr_bong_show> hod can i extract a rar that is in parts like 1 - 50 and it has a password and i know how to open a rar if it has a pas but not a rar that is in multi filez
[04:42] <the_mr_bong_show> how*
[04:43] <blizzkid> soundray, just at the end?
[04:43] <shadox> can someone tell me if there is also an equiliser in ubuntu :s cuz my sound is a bit "boosty"
[04:43] <james_> shadox alsamixer at cli
[04:43] <soundray> blizzkid, before 'exit 0' :)
[04:43] <selinium> arnducky, ANy clues to the mic problem?
[04:43] <shadox> james_ thnx
[04:43] <james_> yw shadox
[04:44] <blizzkid> :) guessed that soundray ;-)
[04:44] <bigman2> soundray, what port is this ftp on
[04:44] <james_> 21
[04:44] <bigman2> doesnt seem to work
[04:45] <bigman2> anyone have another idea of an ftp for ubuntu ?
[04:45] <idefix> np, are you still there?
[04:45] <shadox> whaaa i *love* ubuntu  :D
[04:45] <soundray> bigman2, 'doesn't seem to work' isn't a helpful problem description
[04:45] <james_> like that huh shadox ?
[04:45] <shinu> is there any way i could pipe a cat filename output into a mv command?
[04:45] <james_> :)
[04:45] <idefix> can anybody help me with mounting my floppy-drive?
[04:46] <bigman2> soundray, it say connection refused when contact 127.0.0.1
[04:46] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i extract a rar that is in parts like 1 - 50 and it has a password and i know how to open a rar if it has a pas but not a rar that is in multi filez
[04:46] <shadox> james_  :D  it's really really cool, finally it runs fine, did got a lot of probs
[04:46] <james_> bigman try localhost:21
[04:46] <bigman2> in browser ?
[04:46] <bshumate> shinu:  weird.  catting a file lists its content to stdout...you can't exactly mv the content of a file ;-)
[04:46] <idefix> mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[04:47] <james_> you can ftp://localhost:21 in browser it should work
[04:47] <idefix> am I too old to learn linux or are you never too old for that?
[04:47] <bigman2> acess to local port number has been disabled for security reasons ??
[04:47] <james_> if it doesn't then a possible prob is the ftp daemon is not on
[04:47] <selinium> shinu, what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <the_mr_bong_show> do i need a firewall
[04:47] <james_> are you running a firewall?
[04:47] <shinu> bshumate: i thought i could mv the files listed in that textfile to somewhere
[04:47] <bigman2> yeah but its configured
[04:47] <james_> that was for bigman
[04:48] <bigman2> james_,  yeah i am
[04:48] <james_> so you are allowing port 21 to pass through?
[04:48] <shinu> selinium: i have a list of files in the textfile and wanted to move only those from the current dir to some other
[04:48] <the_mr_bong_show> no i am not
[04:48] <bigman2> james yes
[04:48] <bigman2> james_,  yes
[04:48] <james_> did you try restarting the ftpd daemon?
[04:48] <selinium> shinu, yes you can.. One mo.
[04:48] <shinu> selinium: oh nice
[04:48] <bigman2> james_,  no i dont know how
[04:49] <james_> what ftp are you using bigman2?
[04:49] <shinu> selinium: i thought of using mv {} /somedir like in find command, but wanted to ask first :P
[04:49] <bigman2> apt-get install ftpd
[04:49] <bshumate> shinu: sure...easy enough.  try this :  for f in `cat <filename>`; do mv $f <target_dir>; done
[04:49] <james_> okay hold on I will find it for ya :)
[04:50] <bshumate> shinu: hopefully the file contains the full path to the files, or you're in the directory containing the files if not before you do that
[04:50] <selinium> bshumate, shinu: THat was what i was going to say! :)
[04:50] <shinu> selinium bshumate ah! great! thankies :D
[04:50] <bigman2> james apt-get install ftpd
[04:50] <bigman2> james_,  apt-get install ftpd
[04:50] <shadox> does someone as a good alternative for the gaim messener?
[04:51] <coNP> shadox, what's wrong with gaim?
[04:51] <selinium> shinu, Remebe if you only want to move one file type to    cat *.txt
[04:51] <MoonRanger> its an old version ..
[04:51] <shadox> coNP, nothing, it's real good i'm even running it my windoze, but i was just wondering :)
[04:52] <soundray> bigman2, you'll have to install netkit-inetd as well.
[04:52] <bbb> damn there are alot of ppl in here
[04:53] <james_> bigman2 according to the docs it states that it is recommended to use wu_ftpd or proftpd
[04:53] <james_> use*
[04:53] <bigman2> james_, yes im gonna use vsftpd i just read that
[04:53] <soundray> james_, bigman2: you can do that, but they are more for heavy lifting.
[04:53] <james_> so i would just uninstall ftpd and try one of those instead
[04:53] <bbb> maybe someone can help - Im having trouble getting ubuntu installer to see sata disk
[04:54] <soundray> bigman2, ftpd isn't very safe, but it runs from inetd, no daemon.
[04:54] <soundray> bigman2, 'sudo apt-get install netkit-inetd' and you'll be fine.
[04:54] <bigman2> soundray, i havent anyother choice
[04:54] <bkw> How can I make a external usb harddrive be mounted with write permissions?
[04:54] <soundray> bigman2, is that a question or a statement?
[04:55] <bigman2> a question
[04:55] <bigman2> vsftpd is my only other viable choice
[04:55] <soundray> bigman2, well, I never use ftp anymore, I do file transfers with scp (ssh).
[04:56] <james_> i was just gonna suggest the samething bigman2
[04:56] <james_> ssh ;)
[04:56] <occy> scp++
[04:56] <james_> then you can scp xfers
[04:56] <bigman2> james_,  windows users need to be able to upload files
[04:56] <occy> scp filename user@host:/path/where/you/want/it/to/go
[04:56] <james_> they still can they can use putty it is free
[04:56] <void^> use putty on windows
[04:56] <james_> or winscape
[04:57] <soundray> bigman2, putty for windows will do that if you run sshd
[04:57] <james_> i use it on my network here at home it works excellent
[04:57] <occy> bigman2, or just get winscp if you are on windows.
[04:57] <bigman2> soundray,  i dont think putty will
[04:58] <occy> bigman2, google for winscp.  It looks like an ftp program, but is secure.
[04:58] <james_> putty does bigman2 I use it on winxp on my laptop between this machine and others on my network..works excellent
[04:58] <Web_Geek> is ftp that unsecure?
[04:58] <james_> winscp is good too
[04:58] <occy> Web_Geek, yup
[04:58] <james_> yes ftp is
[04:58] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i get decoders so i can wach mpeg or avi videos
[04:58] <bbb> i like psftp or pscp
[04:59] <bigman2> james whats the command to download a file via putty
[04:59] <occy> Web_Geek, bad news, telnet isn't good for you either ;)
[04:59] <james_> mr bong: install mplayer and the win32codecs from the mplayer website
[04:59] <james_> I believe they call the package essentials
[04:59] <the_mr_bong_show> whats that
[05:00] <Lukian-> the_mr_bong_show: or VLC
[05:00] <james_> that is to allow you to use windows avi and wmv and others in ubuntu
[05:00] <Web_Geek> I don't use telnet
[05:00] <james_> bigman2 scp <--that is the command
[05:00] <Web_Geek> how unsecure is ftp in your experience?
[05:01] <occy> Web_Geek, it sends passwords in clear text like telnet
[05:01] <occy> Web_Geek, it's completely unsecure.
[05:01] <Web_Geek> yea, i knew that
[05:01] <james_> :P
[05:01] <thiago_> hi
[05:02] <Web_Geek> it then depends on if someone is trying to eavesdrop which i wouldn't know how hard it is?
[05:03] <bigman2> james_, where can i learn to setup vsftpd
[05:03] <james_> one sec bigman2 I will find that for ya
[05:03] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i instal mplayer coz it dont have a setup.exe lol
[05:04] <james_> sudo apt-get install vsftpd <--bigman2
[05:04] <james_> is there ever a setup.exe?
[05:04] <james_> :P
[05:04] <Web_Geek> mrbong u can use symaptic
[05:04] <ejofee> anyone know what happened to seveas' repo?
[05:05] <Web_Geek> and do a search for mplayer
[05:05] <StyXman> ejofee: seveas?
[05:05] <bigman2> james_,  i know that much but i need to know how to add users
[05:05] <the_mr_bong_show> there is for windows i downloaded mplayer but i don tkno how to install
[05:05] <james_> am not sure bigman2 I use sshd
[05:05] <the_mr_bong_show> there is an setup.exe for windows*
[05:06] <james_> you will have to read the docs that came with it if any did :)
[05:06] <StyXman> the_mr_bong_show: tehre are .debs for ubuntu
[05:06] <Ng> the_mr_bong_show: you can install mplayer with synaptic or apt-get
[05:06] <minimec> Hi. I have a great problem with a zd1211 based USB wlan Stick. If I have huge data transfer (like tv-stream with mythtv) the wlan stick stops to work after a while. /var/log/messages gives me that ... 'USB ST Code = -71' 'kernel: [4294992.662000]  nonzero read bulk status received: -EPROTO' 'kernel: [4295012.497000]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: wlan0: transmit timed out'
[05:06] <the_mr_bong_show> ok how would i install it with synapitc
[05:06] <james_> mr bong: go to the mplayer website and get the latest and geatest use the .deb
[05:07] <Web_Geek> i think vsftpd has a website with some good documentation
[05:07] <james_> then you use dpkg -i to install it
[05:07] <the_mr_bong_show> http://www.mplayerhq.hu isnt that the site
[05:07] <Ng> no no no
[05:07] <Ng> you don't need to download a .deb
[05:07] <Ng> use synaptic
[05:08] <Ng> mplayer is in there
[05:08] <james_> yes that is it
[05:08] <Web_Geek> with synaptic go to System -> Administration -> synaptic Package Manger
[05:08] <StyXman> the_mr_bong_show: fire up synaptic, search for mplayer, install it
[05:08] <ejofee> StyXman: seveas!
[05:08] <james_> Ng the one in synaptic is old news
[05:08] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[05:08] <StyXman> ejofee: seveas?
[05:08] <james_> and he needs the w32codecs
[05:08] <Web_Geek> but i'm guessing its the stable version
[05:08] <todd> James is right... synaptic mplayer is OLD
[05:09] <ejofee> anybody can tell me why i can't find azureus in any repo?
[05:09] <james_> the newer stable ver is at their web site
[05:09] <StyXman> ejofee: debian sid has it
[05:09] <james_> along with the essentials pkg for w32codecs
[05:09] <Ng> james_: it's only one minor version different
[05:09] <Web_Geek> what is there newest version
[05:09] <Ng> given the hassle of getting an alternative .deb the one in multiverse is a far better option imo
[05:09] <Ng> todd: it's not that old
[05:10] <ejofee> StyXman: they say one shouldn't use debian repos...
[05:10] <Ng> the latest on their site is v1.0pre7 ad 1.0pre6 is in multiverse
[05:10] <todd> Ng: it is... even the plugins are old
[05:10] <james_> but he still needs the essentials pkg Ng..or are you telling me that you can get that from synaptic???
[05:10] <StyXman> ejofee: not if you can't manage it
[05:10] <Web_Geek> nope i'm looking right now at synaptic and they have pre7
[05:10] <StyXman> but it works
[05:11] <james_> ok if you think you can get w32codecs from synaptic good luck :P
[05:11] <Web_Geek> just hit reload hit should show the newest one
[05:11] <Ng> james_: no, the w32codecs package is not available from synaptic, but afaik mplayerhq.hu doesn't offer a .deb of that anyway
[05:11] <Ng> there are .debs available elsewhere though
[05:11] <Web_Geek> that's different stoyr the w32codecs
[05:11] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i am installing mplayer thro synaptic
[05:12] <StyXman> marillat has a .deb fo w32codecs
[05:12] <james_> you don't need a .deb...you have to install them manually anyways they are in a tar.gz file
[05:12] <Ng> james_: but a .deb is far easier :)
[05:12] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i got nero dor for linux and its a deb and when i go to install it it asks for a password
[05:12] <Ng> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs
[05:13] <deFrysk> wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:13] <james_> tell me where the w32codecs.deb is??? please Pfft! :P
[05:13] <Web_Geek> your password or the root password should work
[05:13] <ejofee> StyXman: please give me a debian sid repo entry for /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <ejofee> StyXman: ... or more :)
[05:13] <Ng> ejofee: don't put a debian repository in your sources.list :)
[05:14] <the_mr_bong_show> i tryed to type it in but it wouldnt let me type anything all it let me do was press enter
[05:14] <ejofee> Ng: oh boy, not again! :)
[05:14] <StyXman> ejofee: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
[05:14] <Web_Geek> there some copatability issues?
[05:14] <deFrysk> ejofee, if you are happy to break your sustem please do so ;)
[05:14] <deFrysk> system*
[05:14] <ejofee> StyXman: thank you
[05:14] <StyXman> ejofee: but you better learn abaut pinning first
[05:14] <Ng> ejofee: seriously, it's not worth it. if you *really* have to, pay attention to what StyXman just said
[05:14] <ejofee> deFrysk: i only install rare apps or apps which are not that essential
[05:15] <StyXman> what I'm running now is breezy w/ some packages from sid, and it works
[05:15] <ejofee> StyXman, Ng: please give me a more direct link to pinning
[05:15] <deFrysk> ejofee, have fun , but dont come complaining here
[05:15] <ejofee> StyXman, Ng: i have no idea what it is
[05:15] <StyXman> ejofee: from the top o my head: www.debian.org/docs
[05:15] <soundray> !pinning
[05:15] <ubotu> pinning is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[05:15] <StyXman> ah, ce
[05:15] <StyXman> er, nice*
[05:16] <StyXman> always a good bot at hand
[05:16] <soundray> ubotu bot?
[05:16] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[05:16] <ejofee> StyXman, Ng, deFrysk, soundray: thank you folks
[05:17] <cagatay> hi
[05:17] <cagatay> leute
[05:17] <cagatay> habe meine graka treiber zum laufen gebracht :D
[05:17] <Web_Geek> hi
[05:17] <cagatay> so wie es aussieht zummindest
[05:17] <cagatay> nur etwas wollte ich noch haben
[05:17] <soundray> cagatay, du willst sicher zu #ubuntu-de
[05:17] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i make my video biger
[05:17] <cagatay> ups
[05:17] <cagatay> im dorry
[05:17] <cagatay> sorry :D
[05:17] <soundray> cagatay, we appreciate you are dorry :)
[05:17] <cagatay> bye
[05:18] <cagatay> yea im very dorry :D
[05:19] <Redrose> how do i play .wma files in ubuntu?
[05:19] <soundray> !restricted format
[05:19] <ubotu> soundray: I don't know
[05:19] <soundray> !restricted formats
[05:19] <ubotu> somebody said restricted formats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[05:19] <Euler> hehe
[05:20] <melonipoika> hi all, could anyone please help me with hotplug? i have no idea how to mount my camera, either manually or automaticly...
[05:20] <SQlvpapir> is there anyway i can prepare a filesystem for ubuntu? i installed fine and when it boots i get error 16 (Inconsistent filesystem structure)?
[05:20] <Pupeno> What method (vnc ?) do you recommend me to access my desktop from elsewhere ? I tried the kde desktop sharing thing, but it only last an hour.
[05:21] <jbroome> Pupeno: vnc over ssh is nice
[05:21] <jbroome> since VNC is plain text
[05:21] <Ng> "text" ;)
[05:22] <Ng> since it's mostly sending bitmaps ;)
[05:22] <Pupeno> jbroome: what vnc server do you recommend for that ?
[05:22] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i make my movie in mplayer full screen
[05:22] <shinu> why do i keep getting :File size limit exceeded when copying files?
[05:22] <encompass> how cna I set up my system to let me use vnc to loginto the system from anywhere on the net.  I have it set up for remote admin, but I want it to be able to log into the gdm not a user.  How do I do that?
[05:22] <trappist> the_mr_bong_show: say zoom=yes in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and then hit f when the movie's playing
[05:23] <shinu> even when its as root. is it maybe because of the windows xp machine on the other end?
[05:23] <trappist> shinu: are the files greater than 2gb and are you trying to copy over smb?
[05:23] <encompass> shinu: your files size linit has been exceeded
[05:23] <jbroome> Pupeno: any of the vnc servers in the repo should be fine
[05:23] <shinu> trappist: i dont think any of those files are 2gb...
[05:23] <shadox> how can i install my nvidiadriver?
[05:23] <shinu> encompass: i know that much...
[05:24] <Agedec> Hello, how can i play .wav files?  When i open then i get "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins".   What plugins?
[05:24] <encompass> Agedec: what player are you using?
[05:24] <Agedec> Totem
[05:24] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf i got it open but i cant change it
[05:24] <encompass> totem should do it
[05:24] <encompass> huh
[05:24] <trappist> the_mr_bong_show: use sudo
[05:25] <Web_Geek> maybe u should try xmms for most music files it works quite will
[05:25] <void^> switch to a vo driver that supports hardare scaling, save yourself cpu cycles..
[05:25] <the_mr_bong_show> wheres sudo
[05:25] <Agedec> not wav....sory i meant wmv lol
[05:25] <encompass> yeah, I mean you breaking the whole gnome thing but yeah xmms is an quick solution
[05:25] <trappist> void^: hardware scaling, eh? which vo drivers do that?
[05:25] <void^> trappist: xv
[05:26] <Web_Geek> Agedec: u di the w32codecs
[05:26] <void^> trappist: also gl, gl2, sdl and others
[05:26] <Agedec> ok
[05:26] <Web_Geek> sorry i mean't need
[05:26] <bigman2> does anyone know how to setup an ftp on ubuntu ? that includes adding users
[05:26] <Agedec> can i use synaptic for that
[05:27] <Web_Geek> I don't think so
[05:27] <Agedec> Where can I get them?
[05:27] <shadox> agedec at the wiki page
[05:27] <Agedec> ok thanks
[05:27] <Web_Geek> yep there's a section on that
[05:27] <shadox> Agedec search for "real" in that page i'll find a link
[05:27] <Web_Geek> and other restricted formats
[05:27] <StyXman> bigman2: well, you first choose an ftp server
[05:27] <shadox> *you
[05:27] <StyXman> there must be at least 20 of them
[05:28] <StyXman> bigman2: but, are you sure you need ftp and not something else?
[05:29] <bigman2> yes it has to be ftp StyXman
[05:29] <ejofee> is there any simple one-liner for creating a deb out of a deb.src?
[05:29] <bigman2> and i chose vsftpd and i dont know how to add users and neeed help
[05:29] <StyXman> bigman2: there are two way
[05:29] <Web_Geek> I use it myself but u have to keep in mind it is not a secure way to pass file its like passing files through most IM programs
[05:30] <bigman2> StyXman, lets here
[05:30] <StyXman> bigman2: one is to add them to your system, which will give them also another kind of accesses (ssh, notably), unless you set them a null shell (like /bin/false)
[05:30] <shadox> :D nvidia-glx installed, now only wifi rests and my ubuntu runs perfectly :D
[05:31] <zipola> Hello, my problem is that soundcard is not recognised. If I remember correctly the thing was called Crystal PnP audio controller.
[05:31] <StyXman> bigman2: that also would give them a email account, etc
[05:31] <jordo23> Anyone know the command to start the qt forms designer?
[05:31] <bigman2> StyXman,  i tried that
[05:31] <bigman2> do i have to add somthing to the conf file ?
[05:31] <StyXman> zipola: look for the card in the output of `lspci'
[05:32] <StyXman> bigman2: may be, I never configured vsftpd
[05:32] <StyXman> jordo23: it's `designer'
[05:32] <bigman2> StyXman,  whats the second way
[05:32] <bkw> Where is "unrar" found?
[05:32] <SQlvpapir> is there anyway i can prepare a filesystem on my harddrive before i install ubuntu? it installed nicely, but when it boots i get error 16 (Inconsistent filesystem structure)?
[05:33] <jordo23> Styxman: Thanks.
[05:33] <zipola> What exactly I'm looking for. lspci lists host bridge, pci, isa, ide, usb, ethernet and vga. Oh, and acpi. But nothing reminescent of soundcard.
[05:33] <StyXman> bigman2: maybe vsftpd supports pam, and you configure pam for ftp to look upon a file w/ passwds, or vsftpd hast this support `natively'
[05:33] <StyXman> bkw: nowhere
[05:33] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, ubuntu installdisk does the partitioning for you
[05:33] <Web_Geek> normally ubuntu should give u the chance to do that, SQcpapir
[05:33] <bigman2> StyXman, what ftpd do you use ?
[05:33] <StyXman> bkw: you gitta download whar rar people give in their site and install by hand
[05:34] <the_mr_bong_show> where is sudo
[05:34] <StyXman> bigman2: those I use I never configured them
[05:34] <Web_Geek> bigman2 look in the vsftpd website i think they have good dcs
[05:34] <StyXman> the_mr_bong_show: most probably you alreay have it
[05:34] <SQlvpapir> Well, it doesent. just tells me that it made two partitions and i reply 'ok' and it just installs fine, but still the error when i boot
[05:34] <zipola> The sound worked like two hours ago while this machine still used Windows.
[05:34] <_jason> bkw, no, unrar-nonfree is in mutliverse (as well as unrar-free)
[05:34] <the_mr_bong_show> i do have it but how can i use it how do i open it
[05:35] <StyXman> the_mr_bong_show: it's a console thing
[05:35] <StyXman> you just `sudo <command>'
[05:35] <_jason> ubotu, tell the_mr_bong_show about sudo
[05:35] <deFrysk> the_mr_bong_show, richklick the file in nautilus and choose extract here (or something)
[05:35] <einPaule> Hello everyone
[05:35] <deFrysk> darn spelling
[05:36] <StyXman> brb
[05:36] <deFrysk> hmz wrong person/wrong question/wrong answer :s
[05:36] <nat_> hi
[05:36] <nat_> I ve a hd on /dev/sdb with a ntfs fs
[05:36] <SQlvpapir> which filesystem does ubuntu go with?
[05:37] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, reiserfs ext3 jfs xfs
[05:37] <StyXman> nat_: aha...
[05:37] <nat_> there is 10gig unfomated
[05:37] <zipola> Is there something like "Soundcard detection utility"?
[05:37] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, you choose
[05:37] <einPaule> Does anyone know how my 100% cpu usage by bjfilter*printername*, Ive printed something about 10 minutes ago, but its still using up 100% cpu
[05:37] <Crell42> Why does phpmyadmin require PHP4 packages?  I thought PHP5 was preferred in Breezy.
[05:37] <StyXman> nat_: aha...
[05:37] <ejofee> is there any simple one-liner for creating a deb out of a deb.src?
[05:37] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, deafault is ext3
[05:37] <einPaule> can I just stop the process without messing up my config?
[05:37] <SQlvpapir> deFrysk: is there made any floppies that can format to one of these?
[05:38] <Crell42> It also seems to want apache1.
[05:38] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, no need for that I beleive
[05:38] <Web_Geek> try reading this SQL http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/intro.html
[05:38] <SQlvpapir> Web_Geek: thanks for the link. having a look
[05:38] <StyXman> ejofee: fakeroot ./debian/rules binary
[05:38] <LunisTarballds> einPaule: kill it! your config will be fine
[05:39] <ice9> does anyone use phpnuke here
[05:40] <StyXman> ice9: that's teh nearest you can achieve to suicide
[05:40] <einPaule> LunisTarballds, any Idea how this process could gobble up the cpu after having printed?
[05:40] <ice9> ???
[05:40] <ice9> what
[05:40] <dbzdeath> -what
[05:40] <Crell42> ice9: phpnuke and its kin are horribly horribly insecure.
[05:40] <dbzdeath> +ice9: phpnuke and its kin are horribly horribly insecure.
[05:40] <ejofee> StyXman: what is this?
[05:40] <dbzdeath> -StyXman: what is this?
[05:41] <dbzdeath> +
[05:41] <ice9> really
[05:41] <dbzdeath> -really
[05:41] <ice9> that bad
[05:41] <dbzdeath> -that bad
[05:41] <ejofee> is there any simple one-liner for creating a deb out of a deb.src?
[05:41] <dbzdeath> -is there any simple one-liner for creating a deb out of a deb.src?
[05:41] <StyXman> kill that thing
[05:41] <dbzdeath> +kill that thing
[05:41] <deltron> umm
[05:41] <dbzdeath> +umm
[05:41] <SQlvpapir> how should I split up my partitions (incl. swap) on a 2gb disk?
[05:41] <dbzdeath> -how should I split up my partitions (incl. swap) on a 2gb disk?
[05:41] <antenagora> kick dbzdeath
[05:41] <djk_> !ops
[05:41] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[05:41] <ejofee> what is happening?!
[05:41] <StyXman> root! op! please kill that thing!
[05:42] <Lukian-> root, lol
[05:42] <Amaranth> Yes?
[05:42] <Crell42> So no one know why the phpmyadmin would insist on apache1 and PHP4 when apache2 and PHP5 are already installed?
[05:42] <StyXman> Amaranth: p-p-p-p-please! :-P
[05:42] <SQlvpapir> how should I split up my partitions (incl. swap) on a 2gb disk?
[05:42] <djk_> Amaranth: heh, too late, dbzdeath already left :-/
[05:42] <Lukian-> haha, it left at the sight of an op
[05:42] <Web_Geek> i'm guessing u guys say the only way to run a website is to code it yourself,right?
[05:42] <trappist> Crell42: phpmyadmin was written for php4
[05:42] <ice9> is there a good irc chat for phpnuke ?
[05:42] <Crell42> trappist: It's PHP5-incompatible?
[05:42] <Amaranth> anyone got a whois on him?
[05:42] <trappist> Crell42: probably
[05:43] <StyXman> ejofee: you apt-get source <package>, then do the fakeroot thing
[05:43] <Ng> no, it's fine with php5
[05:43] <ice9> have to do a whowas
[05:43] <Ng> Depends: php4 | php4-cgi | php5 | php5-cgi
[05:43] <Amaranth> Most PHP4 apps work perfectly with php5
[05:43] <StyXman> you dont even need to be root for that
[05:43] <SQlvpapir> how should I split up my partitions (incl. swap) on a 2gb disk?
[05:43] <trappist> Amaranth: you can /whowas him
[05:43] <Crell42> Web_Geek: No, just make sure you're using a well-written CMS.  That excludes the nukes.
[05:43] <Ng> Crell42: install the "php5" package
[05:43] <shinu> can you do mv * except some files?
[05:43] <Web_Geek> what about drupal
[05:43] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, let the installer decide
[05:43] <Crell42> Ng: I did.  It's still asking for PHP4.
[05:43] <Amaranth> trappist: No I can't, my IRC client sucks.
[05:44] <djk_> Amaranth: check your query.
[05:44] <Amaranth> djk_: Thanks.
[05:44] <djk_> :)
[05:44] <Ng> Crell42: are you 100% sure you installed the package named "php5" and not just libapache2-mod-php5 and a few php5-foo packages?
[05:44] <StyXman> Amaranth: just for the record, what client is it?
[05:44] <SQlvpapir> deFrysk: i wont. i just tells me that it will use the exsisting partitions (fat32)
[05:44] <Amaranth> StyXman: Colloquy
[05:44] <deFrysk> SQlvpapir, and also its not much space for a desktop install
[05:44] <trappist> shinu: GLOBIGNORE="filename" mv * /some/path
[05:44] <nalioth_zZz> Amaranth: too quick for me, but than again, the clanging bells woke me
[05:44] <Crell42> Ng: I just typed "aptitude install php5", and it didn't install anything new.
[05:44] <StyXman> uh? :-P
[05:44] <jordo23> Does anyone know if 72pin ram is outdated or not made any longer?  I am trying to upgrade an older HP Pavillion Desktop and can't find any RAM
[05:45] <SQlvpapir> deFrysk: i know but its gona be a 'offline'-machine
[05:45] <Amaranth> 72pin? That's PC-100, no?
[05:45] <ejofee> StyXman: thank you
[05:45] <nat_> but i don't know hi can i format it in fat32 for exemple
[05:45] <nat_> (it's to creat an exchange partition for windows)
[05:45] <nat_> which choice should i do with format
[05:45] <shinu> trappist: ok thanks a lot
[05:45] <nat_> with fdisk sorry
[05:45] <StyXman> ejofee: you owe me a beer :-P
[05:45] <nat_> I ve another pb. I ve a server with squid. It should deliverer an ip like 192.168.5.10 to the other computer but sometime (during the same session) my computer change it ip in 192.168.5.6 and i don't know why
[05:45] <nat_> how can i see what is changing this ip ?
[05:45] <Crell42> Ng: Any other thoughts?
[05:45] <nat_> no one can help me ?
[05:45] <ejofee> StyXman: i dunno... ;)
[05:45] <StyXman> ejofee: nah, just kidding
[05:45] <jordo23> Amaranth: Do you know where I can find these chips?
[05:45] <dallows> who install in here verlihub plz ?
[05:45] <Ng> Crell42: odd, I just tested it and the only way to get it to ask for php4 was by not having php5 installed
[05:46] <StyXman> nat_: it's very hard to tell
[05:46] <Amaranth> jordo23: ebay is probably you're only hope
[05:46] <shadox> :-O  msn servers are down
[05:46] <Ng> Crell42: does "dpkg -l php5" show a line starting "ii"?
[05:46] <Crell42> Ng: Oh joy.  Which version?  I'm on Ubuntu-Server Breez.
[05:46] <shadox> nalioth hi
[05:46] <Crell42> Yep, ii
[05:46] <nalioth> shadox: howdy, did you get sorted?
[05:46] <Amaranth> Ng, Crell42: You can't have both libapache2-mod-php4 and libapache2-mod-php5 installed at the same time.
[05:46] <shadox> nalioth, got it working :D
[05:47] <shadox> nalioth, sorted? :$
[05:47] <jdkycdoc> hi, i am about to install a new nvidia driver, before using ubuntu i used to change the default run level before doing this, but here inittab doesnt have much descrition of the run levels, could somebody explain me if changing to 1 ould be correct to avoid loading X at startup?
[05:47] <trappist> shinu: or mv !(filename)
[05:47] <guest_> one thing that is strange though, someone who logs on with a secundary account on my computer can still see the icons of the pictures in the home directory of the root user
[05:48] <the_mr_bong_show> ok so how do i open sudo so i can change the zoom thing
[05:48] <SQlvpapir> hmm i'm giving it a try deFrysk
[05:48] <Crell42> Amaranth: I don't.  phpmyadmin wants me to, though, which is why I'm here asking questins. :-)
[05:48] <james_> hey Ng was there a .deb for the w32codecs? I had to answer the phone and missed all that stuff :P
[05:48] <LunisTarballds> jdkycdoc: 1 is single user...try going to 2
[05:48] <StyXman> ok, enough for me
[05:48] <Ng> james_: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[05:48] <Amaranth> Crell42: pfft, just download phpmyadmin from their website and dump it in /var/www or /home/<user>/public_html
[05:48] <jdkycdoc> LunisTarballds, well yeah but it seems that the default is 2
[05:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell james about w32codecs
[05:48] <guest_> isn't that odd?
[05:48] <Amaranth> Crell42: No use getting the package, there is little to no install to it
[05:48] <shinu> trappist: do both methods work with cp as well?
[05:49] <Crell42> Amaranth: yar.  I hate going outside the package system. :-)
[05:49] <LunisTarballds> jdkycdoc: uhhhh... graphical runlevel is 5
[05:49] <jdkycdoc> LunisTarballds, it seems that there is nothing in between.. multiuser wothout X
[05:49] <Amaranth> Crell42: It's a self contained PHP script, you'll be okay. :)
[05:49] <james_> well dog..I was lookin for a .deb just 3 weeks ago and do you think after 3 hours of searching I could find one...hn :( so I went with the manual make a dir and mov crap method LOL
[05:49] <shadox> nalioth if you want to let a bot help somebody, don't you got to write the "!" in front of the subject?
[05:49] <toya89> hi ppl
[05:49] <LunisTarballds> jdkycdoc: go to runlevel 3 for most text crap
[05:49] <Crell42> I know, I'm a PHP developer.  I'm just annoyed any time I have to leave the distro package system, on principle.
[05:49] <trappist> shinu: they're both for bash globs, so yes
[05:49] <nalioth> shadox: there are many ways to use ubotu
[05:50] <Amaranth> shadox: You put '!' or 'ubotu' or 'ubotu: '
[05:50] <LunisTarballds> jdkycdoc: 3 is multiuser without X
[05:50] <Amaranth> shadox: or PM it and don't put any of that
[05:50] <shadox> nalioht, ow didn't now, still 3 day's old noob :D
[05:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shadox about msg the bot
[05:50] <toya89> can someone explain to me about metacity, fvwm or window manager in general
[05:50] <shadox> nalioth cool :D
[05:51] <anir> can anyone help me??
[05:51] <LunisTarballds> toya89: a window manager does what its name implies...it manages windows in an X session...and other related stuff.
[05:52] <LunisTarballds> jdkycdoc: man telinit already... ;-)
[05:52] <gnomefreak> wasnt there a sourceforge repo?
[05:52] <toya89> LunisTarballds, does the panel in my freshly installed gnome desktop come from metacity?
[05:52] <anir> how can i install flash using apt-get
[05:52] <anir> ??
[05:52] <jdkycdoc> LunisTarballds, ok thanks
[05:52] <zipola> So, what should I do? lspci doesn't list my sound card.
[05:53] <shadox> nalioth, mayB stupid question, but how do i register my nickname? :$
[05:53] <LunisTarballds> toya89: no... gnome-panel comes from Gnome...not metacitty
[05:53] <bungle> hi
[05:54] <_jason> anir, flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse
[05:54] <gnomefreak> shadox,  try /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:54] <nightclaw> hi i got a problem with a freshly installed sys, after login at the ubuntu GUI the screenbackground is brown but there are no symbols and no reactions to keyboard input
[05:54] <jordo23> Amaranth: Which desktop do you use?
[05:54] <anir> _jason, but some web pages require flash.. so what should i do?
[05:54] <tonyayo> hello all
[05:54] <shadox> gnomefreak, thnx
[05:54] <Amaranth> jordo23: Right now?
[05:54] <_jason> anir, have you installed that package?
[05:54] <jordo23> Amaranth: Sure
[05:55] <gnomefreak> shadox, yw
[05:55] <anir> _jason, which package?
[05:55] <Amaranth> jordo23: Aqua
[05:55] <_jason> anir, flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse
[05:55] <shinu> trappist: okies, thanks
[05:55] <Amaranth> jordo23: Normally, I use GNOME.
[05:55] <jordo23> Amaranth: Why do you prefer Gnome?
[05:55] <shadox> gnomefreak, my nick is already registered :s
[05:55] <anir> _jason, i added multiverse
[05:55] <Amaranth> jordo23: It's clean and simple and gets out of my way so I can get work done.
[05:56] <tonyayo> i'm trying to find a repository for mplayer and libdvdcss...sorry if this is the wrong place to ask
[05:56] <Amaranth> !dvdcss
[05:56] <_jason> anir, good, now just install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dvdcss is install 'libdvdread3' and then run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[05:56] <jordo23> Amaranth: Thanks.
[05:56] <Amaranth> tonyayo: do that
[05:56] <anir> from synampic? _jason
[05:56] <gnomefreak> shadox, thats a good thing
[05:56] <_jason> anir, sure
[05:56] <anir> _jason, thankx
[05:56] <shadox> gnomefreak, thnx a lot ! :D
[05:56] <tonyayo> ubotu, thnx, sorry for the rookie question
[05:56] <ubotu> Wish i knew, tonyayo
[05:57] <redguy|work> !ubotu
[05:57] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[05:57] <tonyayo> i jus got unbuntu, and it IS as good as people say
[05:57] <ice9> anyone have phpnuke installed
[05:57] <deltron> tonyayo: yup :)
[05:57] <CioN> hey what's the right kernel for AMD ATHLON XP 2500+?
[05:57] <ice9> my html file won't come up
[05:58] <ice9> can't see it
[05:58] <redguy|work> CioN: k7
[05:58] <zAo^> CioN, -K7
[05:58] <Ng> CioN: the k7 one
[05:58] <Amaranth> CioN: k7
[05:58] <zAo^> lol
[05:58] <zipola> So nobody really knows. *sigh*
[05:58] <bleaked> could someone hook me up with a deb for projectM?
[05:58] <zAo^> zipola, what? sorry, missed it
[05:59] <loorni> Where can I remove programs installed like Open Office?
[05:59] <nubbe> does Backports work for amd64?
[05:59] <ice9> yes
[05:59] <deltron> loorni: synaptic can
[05:59] <ice9> you have to configure them though first
[05:59] <zAo^> loorni, synaptic can
[05:59] <zipola> zAo^, I cannot find my soundcard anywhere.
[05:59] <deltron> or apt-get remove
[05:59] <Skies> how can I install libglx
[05:59] <shadox> amaranth, when i move my mousecursor fast, it sometimes get stuck :s is this normal?
[05:59] <ice9> its there
[06:00] <Amaranth> shadox: I've never seen anything like that.
[06:00] <zAo^> zipola, lspci | grep -i audio
[06:00] <LunisTarballds> shadox: sounds a bit on the abnormal side
[06:00] <gnomefreak> why cant i find this :(
[06:00] <Amaranth> People seem to ask me more questions when I'm an op. :)
[06:00] <Crell42> Hrm, what's a good place to put a manually downloaded webapp.  /usr/local/appname, or /usr/local/webapps/appname?
[06:00] <zipola> zAo^, lspci doesn't give anything reminescent of my soundcard.
[06:00] <Amaranth> Crell42: phpmyadmin you'll want to put in /var/www or /home/<user>/public_html
[06:01] <zAo^> zipola, which soundcard do you have? onboard?
[06:01] <shadox> Amaranth, may stuck isn't the right word, it just stops moving for a second
[06:01] <zipola> zAo^, under Windows it was called something like Crystal audio PnP multimedia system.
[06:01] <Crell42> Amaranth: Why not /usr/local/ and then symlink it or use an apache config?  I know that's how squirrelmail works.
[06:01] <loorni> deltron, Is there somewhere a list what programs there are installed
[06:01] <LunisTarballds> Amaranth: what is your favorite day of the week?
[06:01] <Amaranth> Crell42: I suppose you could do that.
[06:01] <zipola> zAo^, I think this one is tightly integrated to the motherboard ;)
[06:01] <Amaranth> LunisTarballds: Any day I can stay home and sleep.
[06:01] <zAo^> zipola, nothing on lspci -v????
[06:01] <zipola> zAo^, that's correct.
[06:02] <zAo^> zipola, I think the kernel doesnt recon it :(
[06:02] <Skies> how can I install libglx
[06:02] <bleaked> zipola. lspci shows all.  is your hardware actually in your machine?
[06:02] <zipola> bleaked, it worked some hours ago under Windows really well.
[06:02] <LunisTarballds> Amaranth: would you wear a temporary tattoo of the Ubuntu logo on youe forehead for a month to promote Ubuntu ?
[06:02] <bleaked> zipola. it might be under it's correct name, not what the windows driver might tell it it is.
[06:02] <LunisTarballds> s/youe/your
[06:03] <shadox> LunisTarballds, i'll do :D
[06:03] <deltron> loorni: it's somewhere under system that shows all installed apps I think
[06:03] <cagatay> hmmwieder da
[06:03] <cagatay> :P
[06:03] <deltron> loorni: if not, synaptic can filter it I believe
[06:03] <cagatay> also der xmms strtzt ab
[06:03] <cagatay> und der bmp auch
[06:03] <cagatay> oh im sorry
[06:03] <Amaranth> LunisTarballds: Nope, I'd get more results switching clients to it as I do work for them.
[06:03] <cagatay> wrong window again
[06:03] <cagatay> :D
[06:03] <bleaked> zipola. lscpic |grep audio
[06:04] <bleaked> is all you need
[06:04] <zipola> bleaked, we get nothing :(
[06:04] <nalioth> LunisTarballds: Amaranth doesnt need a tattoo, he has free ubuntu cds to hand out
[06:04] <Skies> how can I install libglx
[06:04] <Skies> why I can't get an answer?
[06:05] <_jason> Skies, either no one saw it or no one knows
[06:05] <LunisTarballds> email lunis@tradeshowhell.com if you want to wear a *temporary* ubuntu tattoo on your forehead soon. ;-)
[06:05] <mrkoje> !libglx
[06:05] <ubotu> mrkoje: Are you smoking crack?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> has anyone grabbed gaim 2.0 yet?
[06:05] <Amaranth> nalioth: already gave out those 5
[06:05] <bleaked> zipola. what card is it?  (not what windows says it is)
[06:05] <_jason> gnomefreak, yep
[06:05] <Amaranth> nalioth: mostly to my aunt's dad, he gives them to other people
[06:05] <gnomefreak> how did you get it? :(
[06:05] <mrkoje> !bot snack
[06:05] <ubotu> :)
[06:05] <zipola> bleaked, I'm not sure but if I hypotethically found out what should I do?
[06:05] <shadox> LunisTarballds, cool :D
[06:05] <_jason> gnomefreak, built it from source
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ah
[06:05] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you grab the source and build it, it's easy to do.
[06:06] <gnomefreak> from sourceforge?
[06:06] <_jason> gnomefreak, yeah
[06:06] <bleaked> zipola. generally i google it, run it through a few forum searches, to see if the card has issues or is an anomaly and needs special treatment.
[06:06] <gnomefreak> ok brb lets try this
[06:07] <bleaked> zipola. you could try doing this with what windows says it is too i suppose.
[06:07] <zipola> bleaked, thanks, beginning my journey now.
[06:07] <bleaked> zipola. but i need to split, so good luck.
[06:08] <bleaked> zipola. it's not a usb soundcard is it?
[06:09] <Stormx2> meh, whats happening with the MSN downage?
[06:09] <zipola> bleaked, No, it's an integrated one.
[06:09] <bleaked> hrm.
[06:09] <shadox> can i also install objectdock in ubuntu?
[06:09] <SQlvpapir> i just connected to the msn servers and everything seems fine
[06:09] <nubbe> does Backports work for amd64?
[06:10] <shadox> SQlvpapir k, thnx for info :)
[06:10] <shadox> SQlvpapir, doesn't seem to work in Belgium :(
[06:11] <Stormx2> SQlvpapir: I can't connect at all.
[06:11] <djk_> does bittornado support resuming?
[06:11] <Stormx2> SQlvpapir: Spoke too soon. I'm in
[06:11] <SQlvpapir> i gave it a few tries
[06:11] <SQlvpapir> just retry and i might work
[06:11] <tonyayo> does anyone know what repository has the "lame encoder package"?
[06:12] <shadox> SQlvpapir, no, can't connect :(
[06:12] <SQlvpapir> strange.. ahh.. m$ is involved. now i understand :)
[06:12] <gnomefreak> _jason, is there an instruction page by chance for the gaim tar?
[06:12] <the_mr_bong_show> do i need a firewall like zonealarm
[06:12] <_jason> gnomefreak, the README file :)
[06:12] <Stormx2> SQlvpapir: Windows servers, big mistake
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ok ty
[06:12] <_jason> gnomefreak, btw don't try to enable -vv. it doesn't work yet
[06:12] <SQlvpapir> Stormx2: indeed
[06:13] <shadox> Stormx2 loool :D
[06:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tonyayo about repos
[06:13] <nalioth> tonyayo: enable the universe and multiverse repos
[06:13] <gnomefreak> ok ty _jason  im assuming thats vidoe?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> video*
[06:14] <_jason> gnomefreak, yeah, make sure you do 'apt-get build-dep gaim' and also make sure you backup your current ~/.gaim and remove the old gaim if you want to install this one
[06:14] <Stormx2> I remember when they got taken down on apple fools day this year.
[06:14] <gnomefreak> ok _jason ty
[06:14] <_jason> gnomefreak, and use checkinstall to install it
[06:15] <the_mr_bong_show> could i put windows xp on the free space of my hardrive so my fam can boot up windows and then when there done i can use ubuntu
[06:15] <shadox> help, got a prob, i was just watching a movie with vlc but it seems i got no sound :s
[06:15] <gnomefreak> ok ty _jason  im doing build-dep now than i think i have to reinstall checkinstall :(
[06:16] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: you can do that, although you'll have to reinstall your grub boot loader afterward
[06:16] <callie> yes the_mr_bong_show
[06:17] <callie> the_mr_bong_show: by installing windows you will destroy your mbr so grub will cease to exist, you'll need to reinstall it to multi boot
[06:17] <shadox> totem seems to work fine, guess i'll delete vlc
[06:18] <bo> selam
[06:18] <the_mr_bong_show> with ubuntu can i use zonealarm
[06:18] <gabis> hi
[06:18] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: No
[06:18] <bo> hi
[06:18] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Use firestarter
[06:18] <gabis> how can i open the *.deb files?
[06:18] <Stormx2> gabis: To install them?
[06:18] <Stormx2> gabis: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:19] <the_mr_bong_show> is firestarter already installed or do i have to download it
[06:19] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Run this command: "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[06:19] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: That will download/install it
[06:19] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[06:19] <shadox> Stormx2 is it necessairy using a firewall in ubuntu?
[06:19] <bo> hello  am from turkey
[06:20] <Stormx2> shadox: I'd say so
[06:20] <bo> new reading enlish
[06:20] <sethk> !skype
[06:20] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:20] <nalioth> shadox: it is not.
[06:20] <the_mr_bong_show> that sudo apt-get install firestarter isnt doin anything
[06:20] <shadox> nalioth, thought so :)
[06:20] <Stormx2> nalioth: Why would the package exist then?
[06:20] <nalioth> Stormx2: there is no reason for a 'firewall' in a default install
[06:20] <Stormx2> nalioth: i know really its only needed on server install but meh
[06:21] <Stormx2> nalioth: I am a server ;-)
[06:21] <nalioth> Stormx2: for internet connection sharing and other uses (such as routing bad IP packets into the bin)
[06:21] <nalioth> Stormx2: then you are not a default install
[06:21] <Stormx2> nalioth: I am really. I didn't do a server install. I only just host some files off this computer
[06:21] <the_mr_bong_show> i dont know why but i will just feel safer with a firewall
[06:22] <shadox> nalioth: but is it bad using a firewall in a default install?
[06:22] <Stormx2> I do get a few requests on ports and from IPs I don't recognise
[06:22] <Stormx2> so meh
[06:22] <Stormx2> shadox: Its your choice. It can't do any harm
[06:22] <sikumkum> hi
[06:22] <Stormx2> hey
[06:22] <nalioth> shadox: there is no need for it. misusing or a settings anonmoly can make your box unusable on the network
[06:23] <the_mr_bong_show> stormx2 are you sure that sudo apt-get install firestarter is right coz it aint workin
[06:23] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: What is the error?
[06:23] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: you need to enable universe and multiverse repositories
[06:23] <Stormx2> nalioth: Ah, fair enough
[06:23] <Stormx2> nalioth: I thought he had though, from earlier >.< he needed the rar packages
[06:23] <shadox> nalioth, k then i'leave it like it is :)
[06:24] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show, if im not mistaken the firewall is enabled within the kernel all firestarter is is a graphical settings app for the firewall
[06:24] <the_mr_bong_show> i ahve already did that
[06:24] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Copy and paste the error
[06:25] <coNP> _jason, how do i checkinstall gaim?
[06:25] <_jason> coNP, you shouldn't unless you are comfortable compiling things.  stick to the repos
[06:26] <ejofee> which one is best evolution, thunderbird, or kmail?
[06:26] <the_mr_bong_show> its not an error i type sudo apt-get install firestarter in to term and it just goes back to my host name
[06:26] <coNP> _jason: i can compile things, and install with "make install"
[06:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell coNP about checkinstall
[06:26] <trappist> gnomefreak: that's about right
[06:27] <coNP> _jason: thx
[06:27] <the_mr_bong_show> fam@cpe-071-068-223-147:~$ sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:27] <the_mr_bong_show> fam@cpe-071-068-223-147:~$ sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:27] <nalioth> coNP: use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" you'll be much happier
[06:27] <shadox> *shadox is watching dark water
[06:27] <the_mr_bong_show> thats what happens
[06:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell coNP about checkinstall
[06:27] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: Then what?
[06:27] <the_mr_bong_show> nothin it goes back to fam@cpe-071-068-223-147:~$
[06:28] <imrabti> hello
[06:28] <s0n1cm0n13y> anybody know a command to run gtk themes on startup, Im using flux right now, but I have to run gnome-theme-manager, to get rid of the ugly gtk1 sort of gui it has going for it, and to replace with the gtk skinning. anybody know a easier way to do this?
[06:28] <imrabti> how can i desactivate my cd rom reader
[06:28] <Stormx2> the_mr_bong_show: o.O
[06:29] <imrabti> please
[06:29] <the_mr_bong_show> o.O?
[06:29] <imrabti> can any one help me
[06:29] <Aquarion> imrabti, How do you mean deactivte?
[06:29] <Stormx2> imrabti: What do you mean, deactivate?
[06:29] <coNP> _jason: I did it, but I got segfault
[06:29] <Stormx2> haha snap
[06:29] <coNP> _jason: I tried to install gaim2
[06:29] <djp> is it possible to playback .img files under totem?
[06:29] <imrabti> desactivate
[06:30] <Stormx2> imrabti: In what way, deactivate?
[06:30] <_jason> coNP, did it configure alright?
[06:30] <Dikiwinky> did u meant unmount?
[06:30] <imrabti> I mean desactivate
[06:30] <imrabti> no
[06:30] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I found a nice lightweight multi-tabbed terminal program in the end.
[06:30] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's called "mrxvt"
[06:30] <imrabti> not be loaded with kernel
[06:30] <Stormx2> imrabti: You are unhelpfull. Explain a little further what you want to do, without the word "deactivate"
[06:30] <Aquarion> Okay
[06:30] <shadox> dooglus: hi :D
[06:30] <Dikiwinky> o ic
[06:31] <sig> Amaranth: are you around?
[06:31] <coNP> _jason: it seemed to
[06:31] <sig> imrabti: hold
[06:31] <Aquarion> In the file /etc/fstab there is a line reading "cdrom". Put a "#" before that line, save and exit
[06:31] <dooglus> hi shadox
[06:31] <Amaranth> sig: Mostly.
[06:31] <imrabti> My cd reader don't work
[06:31] <_jason> coNP, and it compiled without errors?
[06:31] <imrabti> phisical problm
[06:31] <dallows> How can I install build-essential without gcc-4 plz ?
[06:31] <coNP> _jason: yes
[06:31] <sig> Amaranth: last night I told you about io_blocks errors
[06:31] <dooglus> dallows: why would you want to?
[06:31] <imrabti> and i want desactivate it
[06:31] <Amaranth> sig: I remember.
[06:31] <moldz> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu, but the sound is not working, could someone help me please?
[06:31] <Amaranth> !sound
[06:31] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:31] <Stormx2> imrabti: Uhg... I'm going to guess now
[06:31] <sig> Amaranth: there is no way around these errors other than buying a new HD correct?
[06:32] <_jason> coNP, err I don't know.  I never had a segfault with checkinstall.  You used sudo right?
[06:32] <dallows> dooglus: because I want to compile verlihub..
[06:32] <Amaranth> sig: Most likely.
[06:32] <nalioth> dallows: you can't. just install gcc-VER whatever you need
[06:32] <Stormx2> imrabti: You have a cd in it?
[06:32] <moldz> ok, thanks for the sound links
[06:32] <imrabti> non
[06:32] <dallows> I have installed
[06:32] <coNP> _jason: i did compile a lot of software this way, but I wanted to try checkinstall not to mess up my packages
[06:32] <Amaranth> sig: iirc it could be bad RAM too
[06:32] <dooglus> dallows: I'm sure having gcc4 installed won't stop you doing that
[06:32] <imrabti> it's a laptop computer
[06:32] <sig> Amaranth: ok, I think I'm using ext3, but is reiserfs a better/faster file system for future reference?
[06:32] <dooglus> dallows: you can have multiple versions of gcc installed at once
[06:32] <Amaranth> sig: When I had a stick of bad RAM it was sending garbage to my HD which kept flipping it into read-only mode
[06:32] <Amaranth> sig: resiserfs is crack
[06:32] <sig> Amaranth: hmm
[06:32] <dallows> dooglus: hm...
[06:32] <Amaranth> sig: nice ideas, bad implementation
[06:32] <coNP> _jason: I even tried it as root
[06:33] <sig> Amaranth: is there a memory tester?
[06:33] <sikumkum> hi guys,
[06:33] <Ng> sikumkum: memtest
[06:33] <Amaranth> sig: ubuntu comes with one
[06:33] <sikumkum> how to check wether the raid was from CARD or Software
[06:33] <dallows> dooglus: so I can install build-essential ?
[06:33] <Amaranth> sig: on the grub boot screen choose memtest
[06:33] <sig> is it in the grub menu thing?
[06:33] <trappist> sig: I use reiserfs for most things
[06:33] <imrabti> i used rmmod ide_cd to desactivate it
[06:33] <sig> ok, I'll try that
[06:33] <Amaranth> sig: yeah
[06:33] <Amaranth> sig: it'll take a long time
[06:33] <dallows> dooglus: I will have gcc-3.3 after build-essential too ?
[06:33] <sig> thats ok
[06:33] <imrabti> but when i restart my computer it still there
[06:33] <sig> I'm backing up this laptop now just in case it crashes
[06:34] <s0n1cm0n13y> anyone?
[06:34] <dooglus> dallows: if you want gcc-3.3, install package 'gcc-3.3'.  build-essential won't remove it.
[06:34] <Amaranth> sig: Good idea. Bad RAM can mess up a HD just as bad as the HD itself dying
[06:34] <Hal9000> i need help configuring my TV tuner card!
[06:34] <Hal9000> 0000:01:08.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 Audio+video broadcast decoder (rev d0)
[06:34] <Amaranth> sig: except one is fixable without buying a new HD :)
[06:34] <sig> Amaranth: ok so if memtest says all is good then we can assume it is the HD?
[06:34] <_jason> coNP, I don't know.  I just did it yesterday and ran configure, make, checkinstall almost straight through without problems.  Just needed a dependency here and there.
[06:34] <Hal9000> it's an Asus MyCinema 7133 Dual, but it doesn't work :(
[06:35] <coNP> _jason: thx, I try to google it
[06:35] <_jason> coNP, did you use any oprtions in configure?
[06:35] <imrabti> please help
[06:35] <dallows> dooglus: alright.. I have installed gcc-3.3 (apt-get install gcc-3.3) and now Im going to install build essential.. ;-)
[06:35] <Amaranth> sig: yeah
[06:35] <sig> Amaranth: ok cool
[06:35] <sig> I guess if it's the HD I'll get a SMART drive
[06:36] <Amaranth> sig: The HD is more likely though, the warranty on them is only a year for a reason.
[06:36] <Amaranth> sig: HDs either die right after that or last for years, it seems
[06:36] <thegladiator> so hows the dapper release ?
[06:36] <sig> Amaranth: yeah, heh
[06:36] <shadox> thegladiator, hi there :D
[06:36] <Hal9000> i think im going to upgrade to dapper, if my tv card doesnt work :(
[06:36] <sig> although I saw a seagate 160gig yesterday for 98 bucks
[06:36] <sig> so things have got cheaper
[06:37] <thegladiator> shadox, hi there . hows the temp in belgium ? ;d
[06:37] <thegladiator> shadox, did you ship ur free cd's by th way ?
[06:37] <the_mr_bong_show> ok now i got more questions like can i take my bookmarks from windows 2 firefox in Ubuntu coz i got my bookmarks on a cd
[06:37] <shadox> thegladiator, inside the house it's pretty good :D yup i ship them, they will arrive within a month or 2 :)
[06:37] <tonyayo> thnx for the help guys, i got the packages i was looking for, everyting worked once i spelled ubuntu correctly ( not unbuntu )
[06:37] <thegladiator> hows the dapper release anyone ? any reviews ? any betterment over the breeeeeeeezy ?
[06:38] <thegladiator> cool
[06:38] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, just copy the bookmarks.html file to your profile folder
[06:38] <thegladiator> and right now are u on 5.4 ?
[06:38] <thegladiator> ubuntu is an Afriacn word
[06:38] <gnomefreak> with just the plain ./configure will install everything?
[06:38] <nalioth> gnomefreak: yes, no tweaking necessary
[06:38] <lukus001> I have an asus sli-deluxe motherboard, but the rear and center audio socket dont work - is there some sort of driver that'll get them to work - realtek 8 channel audio built into the mobo..?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> ok ty nalioth
[06:39] <shadox> thegladiator, now i know why i had to go trough 451 updates :D i was on 5.04 and had a sourcelist for 5.1, but everything runs fine since i installed 5.1 :D
[06:39] <the_mr_bong_show> and why is it when i got a cd in my rom i can eject it by the butten but by right clicking then eject
[06:39] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, just  a doubt is it "geenome" or nome ? with 'g' silent ?
[06:39] <djp> can totem movie player playback .iso or .img files?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> g=silent
[06:40] <arnducky> djp no
[06:40] <thegladiator> thanks
[06:40] <arnducky> You need to burn them first
[06:40] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: in *nix, the drives are locked for use. until you tell the software you are done, the hardware button(s) are disabled
[06:40] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:40] <djp> arnducky, ok, thanks.
[06:40] <bo> :|
[06:40] <thegladiator> shadox, and howz it ? 5.4 ? buggy ?
[06:40] <_jason> gnomefreak, I thought you pronounced the g gah-nome
[06:41] <arnducky> (for the iso you could mount them with isofs too, then read them like any normal drive)
[06:41] <nalioth> _jason: enunciation and elocution in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:41] <Ng> _jason: correct
[06:41] <sig> gee
[06:41] <sig> gee'nome
[06:41] <shadox> thegladiator, not 5.4 but 5.04 the hoary one :)
[06:41] <Stormx2> I need macromedia shockwave methinks. That same as flash?
[06:41] <nalioth> sig: #ubuntu-offtopic please with the language lessons
[06:41] <_jason> Stormx2, doesn't exist for linux
[06:41] <arnducky> the_mr_bong_show, you canDISABLE the autolocking though if you want
[06:42] <thegladiator> shadox, are you doing anthropology research ? try to keep abreast with latest :) 5.04 is pretty old
[06:42] <thegladiator> shadox, still do you find it buggy ?
[06:42] <arnducky> I use powertweak to do all that kinda stuff on my Debian box -- kubuntu might ahve a control center applet though
[06:43] <shadox> thegladiator,  no it's pretty fine, some changes, but not that much, not buggy at all (but h that's my oppinion) :D
[06:43] <bigman2> is there a way to write to ntf via linux ? im sure there is but how ?
[06:43] <arnducky> Stormx2, no mm-shockwave and flash are two separate programs by the same publisher
[06:43] <thegladiator> k
[06:43] <sig> guh-NOME"
[06:43] <sig> ok
[06:44] <sig> :)
[06:44] <lukus001> Is there some sort of audio driver i have to install to get my center and rear outputs to work?
[06:44] <shadox> thegladiotar, i installed it becaus the life version of 5.1 wouldn't work in my notebook, the 5.04 i got original (shipped one from a friend) and that one worked, so i thought why not installing 5.04 :)
[06:44] <nalioth> sig: there is a discussion right now in #ubuntu-offtopic on this
[06:44] <karlan> anyone having problems with connecting to MSN with Gaim?
[06:44] <sig> nalioth: ok
[06:44] <sig> no biggy
[06:44] <shadox> karlan, yup
[06:44] <arnducky> lukus001, crimsun is your best bet for Linux sound system help
[06:45] <arnducky> he's lurking in herer RN
[06:45] <gabis> where to get program Alien?
[06:45] <karlan> shadox, ok, webmessenger does work thou. and several of my friends using windows is on msn right now
[06:45] <gabis> its about Skype installing
[06:45] <bigman2> is there a way to write to ntf via linux ? im sure there is but how ?
[06:45] <_jason> !info alien
[06:45] <sig> nalioth: do you know if there is a current ubuntu iso with all the bug fixes/updates on it? Or do I have to get the old iso and then update/upgrade ?
[06:45] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[06:45] <lukus001> arnducky, crimsun? is that a person, place or file? lol
[06:45] <shadox> karlan, ueuhm speaking of an linux gaim problem? sounds strange
[06:45] <_jason> gabis, it's in the repositories
[06:45] <nalioth> sig: you'll need to install and upgrade
[06:46] <sorush20> guys my kernel boot hangs at after that battery checking status in Kubiuntu
[06:46] <Amaranth> bigman2: You need Captive NTFS
[06:46] <sig> nalioth: crappy
[06:46] <sorush20> could someone help please?
[06:46] <Amaranth> bigman2: You won't find anything for it in the repos though
[06:46] <karlan> shadox, yeah, or just gaim. my windows-friends (:p) are using MSN messenger
[06:46] <karlan> seems strange, the connection is interrupted when sending the cookie
[06:46] <bigman2> Amaranth, where can i find it then
[06:46] <shadox> karlan, and did you tried the web messenger?
[06:47] <karlan> shadox, yeah, that worked
[06:47] <karlan> but there are some compabilityissues when using linux
[06:47] <Amaranth> bigman2: I dunno. Google should find something though.
[06:47] <karlan> hey, now it works :P
[06:47] <arnducky> bigman2, look at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[06:47] <shadox> karlan, sounds like a gaim error ind
[06:47] <mamoru> hello
[06:48] <karlan> yeah, but it worked now. self-fixing problem ;D
[06:48] <shadox> karlan, does it stops connecting by sending a cookie?
[06:48] <jasonjdp> my onboard audio didnt get set up correctly during ubuntu install.  i dont hear any sound. i dont think the system recognizes it.  its CMI8738/C3DX on a A7V333 mobo.  how do i go about fixing this? i found linux audio drivers for my onboard audio, but the install info is bad
[06:48] <arnducky> There are two options for writing to NTFS under Linux, but one of them is commercial and somewhat pricey.
[06:48] <bigman2> Amaranth,  how do i convert rpm to debian
[06:48] <mamoru> can someone help me with the following:
[06:48] <shedi> bigman2, alien
[06:48] <mamoru>  startdelphi
[06:48] <mamoru> /usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:48] <a457rt> :|
[06:48] <Amaranth> !tell bigman about info alien
[06:48] <bigman2> shedi, whats the command
[06:49] <bo> :|
[06:49] <arnducky> lukus001, /me points at the 650 name nick list
[06:50] <mula`> can you name me a good fax tool?
[06:50] <bigman2> Amaranth, it didnt tell me
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[06:51] <shadox> noirequus, what is the command to change your nickname :$
[06:51] <Amaranth> bigman2: sudo apt-get install alien
[06:51] <Amaranth> bigman2: then sudo alien <file name>.rpm
[06:51] <bigman2> Amaranth, i have alien
[06:51] <_jason> Shadowline, /nick
[06:51] <Amaranth> bigman2: then sudo dpkg -i <file name>.deb
[06:51] <_jason> shadox, /nick
[06:52] <shadox> like that?
[06:52] <lukus001> arnducky, how do you send personal messages on here then ..lol
[06:52] <bigman2> Amaranth,  i did alien filename.rpm test.deb
[06:52] <bo> my readng
[06:52] <_jason> shadox, /nick mycoolnew nickname
[06:52] <shadox> euhm, didn't work :(
[06:52] <Amaranth> lukus001: /msg <nick> <message>
[06:52] <mycoolnew> ahaaaa :D
[06:52] <arnducky> lukus001, you can't unless you register your nickname and login
[06:53] <lukus001> ty both of you
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i take my Favorites from xp to firefox on ubuntu
[06:53] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, I told you already
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> i got the Favorites folder on cd
[06:53] <arnducky> otherwise the IRC commands are /MSG /QUERY /NOTICE and /DCC CHAT
[06:53] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, is it from firefox?
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> i know but where is the profile
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> it from ie
[06:54] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, /.mozilla/firefox/profiles/*.default i think
[06:54] <Shadowline> shadowx: the correct way to change your nick is /nick <name>
[06:54] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, well the ie ones are just links.  It works differently in firefox.  Firefox just has a file called bookmarks.html with all of the links inside.
[06:54] <_freelove> whats the command to set a root password?
[06:54] <Stormx2> I have to go onto windows :O
[06:55] <shadox> Shadowline: thnQ :)
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[06:55] <Shadowline> shadox: np
[06:55] <bigman2> Amaranth, how do i run this captive ntfs ?
[06:55] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, there may be a way to import them but I don't know
[06:55] <the_mr_bong_show> ok thinks
[06:55] <Amaranth> bigman2: I have no idea, I've never used it.
[06:55] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks
[06:55] <a457rt> :|
[06:56] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Import_IE_Bookmarks#From_Internet_Explorer
[06:56] <jasonjdp> ive got onboard audio on my a7v333 mobo but it didnt get set up right with ubuntu install.  i found linux drivers, but the install doesnt seem to apply correctly for ubuntu.  has anybody had similar problems?
[06:56] <dallows> hm
[06:56] <dallows> checking for mysql-devel... no
[06:56] <dallows> configure: error: "install mysql-devel or somewhere it's called mysql-dev"
[06:57] <dallows> what can I do with it ?
[06:57] <Amaranth> !find mysql-dev
[06:57] <dallows> Can't find that package, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[06:57] <dallows> :-/
[06:57] <manchine> in which file can i set LC_ALL?
[06:57] <Amaranth> ubotu: is broken or something
[06:57] <ubotu> Amaranth: Syntax error in line 1
[06:57] <a457rt> :|
[06:58] <Amaranth> dallows: apt-cache search mysql | grep '-dev'
[06:58] <dallows> Amaranth: thx ;-)
[06:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'mysql-dev' returned no results.
[06:58] <manchine> dpkg-reconfigure locales does not set LC_ALL... weired
[06:59] <dallows> grep: unknown directories method
[06:59] <dallows> :-/
[06:59] <dallows> :-(
[06:59] <Amaranth> dallows: oops
[06:59] <Amaranth> dallows: apt-cache search mysql
[06:59] <Amaranth> dallows: you'll have to find it in the list yourself, i guess
[06:59] <Amaranth> manchine: you need to use the language selector in gnome
[06:59] <_freelove> how to set root password?
[06:59] <Amaranth> manchine: it's either under system->preferences or system->administration
[06:59] <manchine> sudo passwd root
[07:00] <a457rt> mr. bo
[07:00] <Amaranth> !tell _freelove about sudo
[07:00] <Amaranth> manchine: naughty
[07:00] <yggdrasil> hello guys
[07:00] <bigman2> Amaranth, is there any other way it was nice to reccomend that but it has 0 documentation on how to use it
[07:00] <yggdrasil> is the the right place for old world ppc ubuntu talk ?
[07:00] <Amaranth> bigman2: that's the only way
[07:00] <_freelove> Amaranth: i know all that......i need to set root passwd for my bro.......cant make him a sudoer!!
[07:01] <a457rt> jaguar34
[07:01] <trappist> _freelove: why not?
[07:01] <Amaranth> _freelove: then sudo passwd root
[07:01] <nickrud> _freelove, adduser <brother> admin
[07:01] <susana_> hi
[07:01] <OdeLon2> Hi, I am using ubuntu 5.1 as a host system for LFS... however, I am at a stage where I require root shell access (not sudo) - any ideas?
[07:01] <nickrud> _freelove, that'll give him sudoer rights
[07:01] <susana_> I have one problem with my w2k fat partition
[07:01] <karlan> to install Java Runtime Enviroment in Firefox 1.5 in ubuntu, how could i do that in the best way?
[07:01] <dallows> I found only libwww-dev :-(
[07:01] <calamari> hi
[07:01] <susana_> from gnome when I enter in this partion and I try to delete something I dont get the option in the pop-up menu
[07:01] <susana_> why?
[07:02] <calamari> OdeLon2: is "sudo su" adequate?
[07:02] <_freelove> trappist: if i make him sudoer he will wreak havoc on my system!
[07:02] <nickrud> calamari, sudo -i is better
[07:02] <yggdrasil> ive got ubuntu running on a starmax ppc and im having some issues with xwindows , anyone here familiar with that ?
[07:02] <trappist> _freelove: but he won't if he's root?
[07:02] <OdeLon2> calamari: If that loggs me in as root, then yes.
[07:02] <calamari> nickrud: do you mean sudo -s ?
[07:02] <trappist> _freelove: at least with sudo you can give him root access only to certain commands
[07:03] <Sh4d0x> huh :s i cannot register my nickname :s
[07:03] <Amaranth> _freelove: He won't be able to use sudo unless you specifically enable it.
[07:03] <Amaranth> _freelove: So just make him a regular account.
[07:03] <toresbe> I live life on the edge etcetera!!
[07:03] <manchine> susana_, grab a fresh j2se binary, install it and symlink the plugin to the proper FF dir
[07:03] <Amaranth> _freelove: No need for root
[07:03] <nickrud> calamari, well, sudo -s is equiv to su , and sudo -i to su - (if I remember right)
[07:03] <calamari> nickrud: cool.. that's nice to know :)
[07:04] <yggdrasil> or how about xwindows with a mach 64 vt ?
[07:04] <nickrud> calamari, and, sudo -i is better ;P
[07:04] <toresbe> mach64? Isn't that... very very old?
[07:04] <calamari> hehe
[07:04] <_freelove> Amaranth: look.....my bro has a non-sudo account.....he knows his passwd....now often i want to do things while STILL being in his account...how to do this??
[07:05] <toresbe> _freelove: you can su to yourself then sudo?
[07:05] <Amaranth> _freelove: you could just flip to a terminal and login as you to do root things
[07:05] <calamari> I can't remember how to review the boot messages.. ready to write it down this time :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> calamari: dmesg
[07:05] <Sh4d0x> noobish question but can anyone tell me how to register my nickname :$
[07:05] <calamari> Amaranth: thank you :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> Sh4d0x: /msg chanserv register <password>
[07:05] <_freelove> toresbe: problem solved....tvon from #kubuntu just told me the solution:)
[07:06] <Sh4d0x> amaranth, thnx you rule :D
[07:06] <toresbe> mmk
[07:06] <yggdrasil> toresbe this whole thing is very old its an old mac clone
[07:06] <yggdrasil> ive got everything going on it
[07:06] <yggdrasil> x is runing but it looks like crap
[07:06] <djbentrem> how can i get sound to work with games as well as with system event sounds?
[07:06] <toresbe> yggdrasil: X doesn't go too far on the Mach64
[07:06] <yggdrasil> hmmm
[07:06] <totos> :|
[07:06] <toresbe> IIRC its max res is 800x600 at 16 colours
[07:06] <yggdrasil> sad
[07:07] <toresbe> and 640x480 at 256
[07:07] <yggdrasil> funny that macos made it work
[07:07] <jaguar34> :|
[07:07] <yggdrasil> at 800 x 6000 and like 32
[07:07] <yggdrasil> or at least 24
[07:08] <yggdrasil> just not sure how its gonna react to trying to put another vid card in . this box is kinda neet it has apple keyboard stuff and ps2 keyboard/mouse ide drive
[07:08] <OdeLon2> Thanks guys, 'sudo su' did the trick
[07:08] <yggdrasil> ive been tweaking on it for 2 weeks
[07:08] <eobanb> yggdrasil, yeah i have some stuff like that
[07:08] <eobanb> clones with ps/2 ports
[07:08] <yggdrasil> yea
[07:08] <yggdrasil> so i should just work on getting another vid card in then
[07:08] <calamari> yggdrasil: pretty sure that the old macos have a lot of straight asm code in them :)
[07:09] <yggdrasil> menuetos
[07:09] <yggdrasil> hhe
[07:09] <eobanb> you said it was a motorola starmax?
[07:09] <yggdrasil> yep
[07:09] <calamari> afaik, so did windows 3.1
[07:09] <eobanb> yeah i have no idea if video cards for that would need a mac firmware or what
[07:10] <eobanb> i dont think mac os had a lot of asm, as far as i know almost all of it was written in pascal
[07:11] <rtsai> Can I use "testing" or "unstable" or something in my ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list like with plain debian? Or do I always have to keep updating it for hoary/breezy/dapper?
[07:11] <calamari> I guess dmesg doesn't show everything.. I saw an alsa error about my cd mixer name.. that's important to me because I can't hear my CD's play right now :)
[07:11] <calamari> can I have all boot error messages redirect to a file?
[07:11] <eobanb> rtsai, i guess you could think of dapper as like sid
[07:12] <rtsai> eobanb: for sid I can use "unstable". Can I do the same with the ubuntu repositories? (e.g., is there a similar alias system in place)
[07:12] <eobanb> rtsai, yes it works exactly the same way.
[07:12] <nubbe> does Backports work for amd64?
[07:12] <GoRi||a>  ok, im running ubantu, and need to get kernel source code..but cant find package for 2.6.12-9-386, what do i do?
[07:12] <rtsai> ah, thanks.
[07:12] <eobanb> rtsai, i'd say you're probably going to find dapper less usable than debian sid though
[07:12] <rtsai> eobanb: so you don't recommend jumping from breezy to dapper right now?
[07:13] <eobanb> rtsai, no i would stick with breezy for now unless you really need some more cutting-edge stuff
[07:13] <nubbe> GoRi||a, maybe u haven't enabled the src repos?
[07:13] <eobanb> rtsai, even breezy is generally more up to date than debian unstable
[07:14] <GoRi||a> the problem is that i need kernel src to compile my wireless card module, and i need the src
[07:14] <rtsai> eobanb: ok, thanks. Any idea if firefox-1.5 will go into breezy?
[07:14] <GoRi||a> no internet
[07:14] <eobanb> rtsai, yes, there's a page on the ubuntu wiki about firefox 1.5
[07:14] <yggdrasil> is there some irc for just ppc ubuntu chat ? ?
[07:14] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: you need kernel headers, and it's on the cd
[07:14] <GoRi||a> i have kernel headers
[07:14] <rtsai> eobanb: thanks!
[07:14] <robotgeek> yggdrasil: yes, we do ppc here :)
[07:14] <GoRi||a> installed them
[07:14] <GoRi||a> but..
[07:14] <GoRi||a> is that the same as kernel source/
[07:15] <yggdrasil> robotgeek im just working on an oldworld mac
[07:15] <GoRi||a> ?
[07:15] <yggdrasil> and i have a problem
[07:15] <eobanb> yggdrasil, does everything basically work?
[07:15] <GoRi||a> and do i need to do an ln -s linux
[07:15] <eobanb> problem..
[07:15] <yggdrasil> everything s working great
[07:15] <eobanb> except?  :)
[07:15] <yggdrasil> except video output is like scrambled
[07:15] <yggdrasil> really gross
[07:15] <eobanb> you mean when you start x?
[07:15] <yggdrasil> yea
[07:15] <GoRi||a> like...make a symbolic link from /usr/src/[headerfolder]  to /usr/src/linux?
[07:15] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: old mac, and you are an OLD linux distro too! ;-)
[07:15] <yggdrasil> and i ve reconfiged it a ton of time
[07:16] <eobanb> i'd probably do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg..
[07:16] <eobanb> ah.
[07:16] <jvives> hey guys!!! how can I read directly from a serial por in ubuntu? Like "cat /proc/ttyS0" in debian.
[07:16] <yggdrasil> linus im on hoary
[07:16] <nubbe> GoRi||a, I don't know, but I do know that there are source repos and all r not enabled by default
[07:16] <eobanb> yggdrasil, i'd try fbdev for the driver
[07:16] <yggdrasil> eobanb i did that
[07:16] <nubbe> GoRi||a, a search on ubuntuforum is always good..
[07:16] <eobanb> and it STILL didnt work?
[07:16] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: are you trying to recompile?
[07:16] <yggdrasil> sam thing
[07:16] <eobanb> yggdrasil, but mac os works?
[07:16] <GoRi||a> im trying to compile a wireless usb driver module
[07:16] <yggdrasil> yep
[07:16] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: no, i meant your nick! it is the name of a defunct linux distribution from back in the day... ;-)
[07:16] <eobanb> and the framebuffer console works?
[07:16] <yggdrasil> mac os works well
[07:16] <korhalf> where do i find the cURL library>
[07:16] <GoRi||a> and it says i need kernel sourcecode
[07:16] <yggdrasil> ahh linux yes
[07:16] <GoRi||a> before i compile it
[07:17] <korhalf> im trying to apt-cache search it
[07:17] <yggdrasil> linus even
[07:17] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: no, you don't need the source code
[07:17] <GoRi||a> when i do a "make", it fails
[07:17] <yggdrasil> its finding it as a mach64 vt 264 vt
[07:17] <yggdrasil> but like i cant even be sure thats whats on board
[07:17] <yggdrasil> u know its like a mac
[07:17] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: which usb device?
[07:17] <yggdrasil> wonder whats under the cover
[07:17] <yggdrasil> if i can read the chip
[07:17] <eobanb> open and find out
[07:17] <GoRi||a> its a 802.11b/g usb adapter, ill get the model/driver
[07:17] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: which mac do you have?
[07:18] <eobanb> yggdrasil, which starmax is it
[07:18] <yggdrasil> linus starmax 3000/180
[07:18] <yggdrasil> tanzania board
[07:18] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: oy...mac clone...got it.
[07:18] <ubuntu> hello all
[07:18] <GoRi||a> i have a trendnet usb wireless adapter, and am trying to compile the zd1211 driver for it
[07:18] <eobanb> yggdrasil, does it have both an apple video port and VGA on it?
[07:18] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: hmm, easy doable
[07:19] <yggdrasil> eobanb no just vga
[07:19] <GoRi||a> robotgeek how
[07:19] <yggdrasil> i see the ati chip
[07:19] <eobanb> ati?
[07:19] <eobanb> hm.
[07:19] <ubuntu> anyone could just answer me a question about the ubuntu full version (not the live version) installation?
[07:19] <eobanb> yggdrasil, how would you describe it as 'scrambled'
[07:19] <eobanb> ubuntu, sure, what's the question?
[07:19] <GoRi||a> should i just do a make, then make install on it?
[07:19] <padraig> hello - any suggestions for anywhere else to look for information about solving gnome-cups-manager/cups/printing problem ?
[07:20] <self_> hi all
[07:20] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: i think the driver is in breezy, why don't you try to plug it in?
[07:20] <eobanb> padraig, there should be a page on the wiki about troubleshooting printing
[07:20] <GoRi||a> i did
[07:20] <self_> is serpentine as good as K3b?
[07:20] <ubuntu> when im installing, when i have to choose the HD for partition... i choose one and he says that this operation will erase all data of the discS....
[07:20] <yggdrasil> eobanb ok well when it gois into 24 bit mode i have like sections of the screen wehre its 2 mice
[07:20] <yggdrasil> an other sections where it goes into one mouse
[07:20] <GoRi||a> what should happen when i plug it in?
[07:20] <yggdrasil> uh cursor
[07:20] <ubuntu> should it be the both hds or just the one wich i choose?
[07:20] <eobanb> 24-bit mode? you mean 24-bit colour? what about like 16-bit colour
[07:20] <padraig> thans eobanb - I'll have a look
[07:20] <yggdrasil> ati 264v2
[07:20] <GoRi||a> i look in the device manager applet, and it shows up
[07:20] <GoRi||a> but the indicator light doesnt turn on
[07:20] <yggdrasil> eobanb they are mostly all the same
[07:21] <GoRi||a> is there a wireless card applet in ubuntu?
[07:21] <yggdrasil> even 4 bit is totaly  wierd
[07:21] <yggdrasil> 8 bit is the only one that syncs close
[07:21] <yggdrasil> and its colors are not 8 bit they are like
[07:21] <ubuntu> i think no
[07:21] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:21] <GoRi||a> k
[07:22] <yggdrasil> i oculd maybe take a photo of it
[07:22] <yoav> hey all
[07:22] <ubuntu> when im installing, when i have to choose the HD for partition... i choose one and he says that this operation will erase all data of the discS....
[07:22] <korhalf> Where do I find the cURL library
[07:22] <korhalf> I need it for Sugarcrma
[07:22] <korhalf> nd the people in Sugarcrm are idle
[07:23] <eobanb> yggdrasil, a photo would be great :)
[07:23] <yoav> got some installation problems, anybody free to give it a whif?
[07:23] <yggdrasil> ill do it
[07:23] <yggdrasil> giem a few
[07:23] <yggdrasil> im throwing that chip into the googler
[07:23] <karlan> is there any good programs to view media on a webpage? i always getting an error from totem
[07:23] <korhalf> what package is the cURL library
[07:23] <korhalf> karlan install the mplayer plugin for mozilla
[07:23] <karlan> korhalf, ok, thx
[07:23] <self_> gnomefreek...hello
[07:23] <korhalf> i got the php4-curl module
[07:24] <korhalf> but it didnt make a difference
[07:24] <gnomefreak_away> hi self_   bbl everyone
[07:24] <self_> where are you from?
[07:24] <self_> country
[07:24] <self_> <<is curious
[07:25] <korhalf> self_, offtopic
[07:25] <korhalf> What package is the cURL library?
[07:25] <karlan> korhalf, what is the exact name on apt-get ?
[07:25] <karlan> cant find it
[07:25] <korhalf> karlan, mozilla-mplayer
[07:25] <korhalf> lol
[07:25] <karlan> :P
[07:25] <korhalf> make sure you have mplayer installed
[07:25] <self_> ?...sorry just curious
[07:25] <korhalf> and the w32 codecs for those stupid wmvs and wmas
[07:25] <karlan> strange that i couldnt find it when searching for mplayer :O
[07:25] <GoRi||a> my wireless adapter isnt listed under supported by ubuntu, and it doesnt show up in iwconfig, even when plugged in
[07:26] <korhalf> okay well im curious as to where to find the damn cURL library package
[07:26] <korhalf> god forbid
[07:26] <Urthmover> freeNX  is anyone using it on breezy?
[07:26] <vilcimoraes> oi
[07:26] <karlan> korhalf, nope, cant fint it still
[07:26] <korhalf> karlan, you could always pipe it to grep
[07:26] <yoav> hey, can anyone help me out with installation
[07:26] <_jason> Urthmover, yes
[07:26] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: please place lspci -v into the pastebin
[07:26] <Urthmover> I can't seem to find docs that actually work
[07:26] <korhalf> karlan, make sure u have universe for apt
[07:26] <karlan> korhalf, you lost me there :p
[07:26] <Urthmover> well jason
[07:26] <vilcimoraes> teste
[07:26] <GoRi||a> ok
[07:26] <korhalf> karlan, go to synpatic
[07:26] <Urthmover> so I added a working deb to my sources....
[07:26] <self_> ok...wireless cards in ubuntu
[07:27] <karlan> korhalf, yeah, im there
[07:27] <Urthmover> how do I get the right compiler?
[07:27] <korhalf> karlan, you have to enable multiverse
[07:27] <vilcimoraes> alguem
[07:27] <korhalf> do you know what i mean?
[07:27] <korhalf> !nonfreeformat
[07:27] <ubotu> korhalf: What?
[07:27] <self_> how do you use them?
[07:27] <korhalf> !mplayer
[07:27] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:27] <korhalf> !wmv
[07:27] <_jason> korhalf, 'apt-cache search --names-only libcurl' ?
[07:27] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:27] <naddar> hi all,
[07:28] <naddar> anyone can help me
[07:28] <RWG> yoav
[07:28] <naddar> why ubuntu diddent ask root password
[07:28] <robotgeek> naddar: sure, ask away
[07:28] <karlan> korhalf, where do i do that? i am using the swedish version, and cant find anything similar to multiverse
[07:28] <korhalf> naddar,
[07:28] <naddar> how can i set it
[07:28] <korhalf> !root
[07:28] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell naddar about sudo
[07:28] <yoav> hey RWG
[07:28] <_jason> we should just ask sudo to the topic
[07:28] <_jason> add even
[07:28] <robotgeek> yeah
[07:28] <naddar> damn in irssi i forget to scroll between pages
[07:28] <korhalf> karlan, i forgot hwo to do it
[07:28] <naddar> crtl shift?
[07:29] <robotgeek> naddar: page up
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, and i cant seem to open synaptic
[07:29] <karlan> korhalf, okay :\
[07:29] <self_> the sudo command...does it let you use the cammand as root?
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, yea sorry man, go to settings or something, and change the sources to be multiverse
[07:29] <self_> command even
[07:29] <karlan> will do :9
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, honestly thats all i can tell you, or i can paste you my sources.list
[07:29] <karlan> will try, even :)
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, yeh ill do that
[07:29] <jsz> yes
[07:29] <naddar> i get a pm message but i can't go to tab 4 how
[07:29] <jsz> superuser do
[07:29] <_jason> !sudo
[07:29] <naddar> ok alt :)
[07:30] <jsz> BUT, if you REALLY need to set a root password, open a root terminal and type passwd
[07:30] <yoav> HELP anyone?
[07:30] <jsz> yoav, whats the problem?
[07:30] <_jason> yoav, with?
[07:30] <UncleD> What would cause this error? rndc: connect failed: connection refused when I try to run /etc/init.d/bind9 reload
[07:31] <naddar> ok just sudo is the new command if i understand good?
[07:31] <korhalf> karlan, pm
[07:31] <UncleD> noddar, yea
[07:31] <naddar> ok, thanks
[07:31] <_jason> naddar, right, if you want to 'echo hi' with sudo you do: 'sudo echo hi'
[07:31] <karlan> korhalf, :)
[07:31] <korhalf> karlan, :D
[07:31] <robotgeek> _jsz: you don't really need to be root, why do you think you need root?
[07:31] <yoav> thanks jsz. i have installation problems. after the stage where i input my user name the installation get stuck on "setting primary installation repository". i managed to get to the shell terminal, but i dont know how to go on from there
[07:32] <self_> do all of you use ubuntu?
[07:32] <coNP> of course not :)
[07:32] <Kyral> yes
[07:32] <Kyral> I do at least
[07:32] <yoav> _jason, scroll up, see if you know this problem
[07:32] <Kyral> well I more like use "MetaUbuntu"
[07:32] <Urthmover> umm considering this IS the ubuntu channel  I'm guess most
[07:32] <plasmoduck> yoav, is that for the apt sources?
[07:32] <Kyral> In that my system is a mismash from all over the Repos
[07:32] <self_> l have tried a lot of linux distros...normaly suse
[07:32] <yoav> plasmoduck, i think its the next screen
[07:32] <naddar> so base-config is also gone?
[07:33] <_jason> yoav, what's the problem?
[07:33] <naddar> robotgeek: if i type base-config i get error also premision denied
[07:33] <plasmoduck> _jason, he has already said, scroll up.
[07:33] <robotgeek> naddar: sudo base-config
[07:34] <plasmoduck> yoav, so it updates sources?
[07:34] <karlan> korhalf, found it, thx alot :)
[07:34] <self_> tried knoppix... but you do not gain anything over DSL...i now use ubuntu
[07:34] <vroem> Hi. If I want to setup a desktop with an apache server, what advantages will I get when I use ubuntu-server?
[07:34] <_jason> yoav, lol I didn't see that, I scrolled too much and found you saying 'installation problem', thanks plasmoduck :)
[07:34] <vroem> Is is worth it?
[07:34] <naddar> robotgeek:  ok i got it thanks.
[07:34] <plasmoduck> vroem, Ubuntu server mode is just console, it has no window manager
[07:34] <yoav> plasmoduck, _jason, jsz, last time i tried to install i exited installation before the stage it gets stuck right before putting in a password, then it rebooted went into a another installation phase and it worked fine, but not perfect, so i tried to do it right this time but it get stuck on "setting primamry installation repository"
[07:35] <yggdrasil> eobanb you know what else  is kind of wierd ...is that im using bootx1.3 and at home (im at awork) i was getting all the dmesg screen like as it was booting and i cant seem to get it ehre so i have no vterminals. ive tried clickign the no video driver box but it wont do it
[07:35] <plasmoduck> thus, it is more lightweight and resource friendly
[07:35] <naddar> anyone got negative experience with ubuntu 64 bits?
[07:35] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, Ubuntu CC Meeting at 20:00 UTC ;)
[07:35] <eobanb> yggdrasil, well that sucks.
[07:35] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: dec 20th, hmm...that's close
[07:35] <yggdrasil> strange huh what version of bootx should i be on ?
[07:36] <plasmoduck> yoav, so it just hangs there?
[07:36] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: damn, i think it's today :)
[07:36] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, um, that's today sir, in an hour and a half
[07:36] <jan_> !java
[07:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:36] <yoav> plasmoduck, yea, stuck on 255
[07:36] <yoav> 35%
[07:36] <dewdude> well...time to work on this box some more
[07:36] <yoav> 25% lol
[07:36] <JDahl> naddar, I had to compile a few things on my own, but not because of Ubuntu, rather because 64bit development is lagging behind 32bit
[07:36] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: hmm, crazy. i might actually be away.
[07:36] <karlan> korhalf, doesnt seem to work thou :\
[07:36] <vroem> plasmoduck, thanks, good to know :-)
[07:36] <plasmoduck> and you have left it for like 30 minutes?
[07:36] <JDahl> naddar, but in general I am quite happy with 64bit Ubuntu
[07:37] <plasmoduck> vroem, I use Ubuntu server on my server
[07:37] <naddar> JDahl:  thanks
[07:37] <plasmoduck> and Debian on my workstation
[07:37] <naddar> damn my screen
[07:37] <plasmoduck> NetBSD for work
[07:37] <korhalf> karlan, why not?
[07:37] <naddar> can't i change settings in base-config for my monitor
[07:37] <korhalf> karlan, did you install mplayer first like i told you to
[07:37] <yoav> plasmoduck, i did ctrl alt f2, but i dont really know how to work from there
[07:37] <naddar> or do i have to edit it in xorg.conf?
[07:37] <karlan> korhalf, yeah, synaptic added that automaticly
[07:37] <karlan> hold on
[07:37] <karlan> will try different approach :p
[07:38] <plasmoduck> yoav, I sergest install in server mode
[07:38] <karlan> ubuntu is really great btw :)
[07:38] <GoRi||a> ok, i cant get you the output of lspci right now, but i can tell you that the wireless adapter doesnt show up in it..but...when i look in the device manager, it does show up, but as "unknown device"
[07:39] <plasmoduck> then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment (#) the lines for the other sources
[07:39] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: hm,m i gotta run away now, sorry
[07:39] <jan_> hi, is java installed as default on breezy? when i need the runtime enviroment (f.eks for firefox) will "apt-get install j2re1.4" do the trick?
[07:39] <GoRi||a> its ok
[07:39] <yggdrasil> is bootx 1.1.3 standard for mac os 9.1
[07:39] <yggdrasil> or .2 or so
[07:39] <korhalf> karlan, i know :)
[07:39] <plasmoduck> then "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" then "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[07:39] <vroem> plasmoduck, well I'm sure it does a fine job. But I need a server with a desktop and a vnc server.
[07:39] <Shado-x> euhm guy's can someone connect to msn with gaim?
[07:39] <plasmoduck> yoav, what window manager do you like?
[07:40] <yoav> plasmoduck, my computer(and linux) knowledge is very basic, i'm not sure i'll handle it if its command line. i allready managed installing before by cheating a little bit, but i think it got me some trouble
[07:40] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, the MSN servers are down
[07:40] <karlan> korhalf, well, when i manually try to start mplayer, the player wont appear
[07:40] <plasmoduck> vroem, just add the packages you need
[07:40] <karlan> nothing happens
[07:40] <plasmoduck> ^^^
[07:40] <plasmoduck> yoav, why do you need a desktop for a server?
[07:40] <plasmoduck> just use ssh
[07:40] <GoRi||a> ok, i have a wireless 802.11b/g usb adapter, model TEW-424UB, and i need to compile the driver (zd1211). It says i need the kernel source code, but i cant find it anywhere
[07:40] <yoav> plasmoduck, i'm not sure what you're asking, but i guess gnome is the only one i used
[07:40] <GoRi||a> 2.6.12-9-386
[07:41] <_jason> karlan, did you setup mplayer to use esd?
[07:41] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, they were down all morning, they just came back up this moment.
[07:41] <yoav> plasmoduck, i'm a noob, i'm no pro, i dont know how to work from a terminal to weel yet
[07:41] <selinium> arnducky, Are you about?
[07:41] <vroem> I'm very skilled in ssh and screen but I need to use a remote desktop for certain applications
[07:41] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, hmm strange it seems that webmessenger works :s
[07:41] <plasmoduck> yoav, you might want to check out blackbox, it's pretty nice
[07:41] <GoRi||a> i have the headers installed (those were on the ubuntu disc)
[07:41] <jordo23> Does anyone know if when installing a gigabit ethernet adapter if you have to do anything to get it to go gigabit, or will it automatically detect the fastest speed?
[07:42] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, nope still no connection
[07:42] <plasmoduck> yoav, do what I said, reboot the box and install in server mode, it's a custom install and I will help you step by step
[07:42] <yoav> plasmoduck, thats a linux os? i thought ubuntu is good for linux noobs
[07:42] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, I kept getting a "msn servers are not available at this time" until about 2 minutes ago.
[07:42] <plasmoduck> yoav, it's alot easy for things not to go wrong
[07:42] <letoto> Can someone give me an irc handle or email address of a human sysadmin of the ubuntu systems?
[07:42] <naddar> can anyone help me please
[07:42] <karlan> _jason, i didnt setup anything.didnt get any setupscreen either. the packages i installed trough synaptics: mozilla-mplayer, mplayer-586, mplayer-686
[07:42] <plasmoduck> yoav, no, blackbox is a window manager
[07:42] <yggdrasil> ok cool i change d the macos res to 640 480 256 and i got my boot stuff back in or der
[07:42] <seth_k|lappy> letoto, that'd be elmo
[07:42] <naddar> i have a medion md30399pj monitor and i like to have the settings for it
[07:42] <letoto> whois elmo
[07:43] <naddar> but notting go's to surf on the net
[07:43] <letoto> *** elmo is n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk (James Troup)
[07:43] <jordo23> lol
[07:43] <plasmoduck> blackbox, fluxbox, gnome, kde, window maker, lightstep, xfce, icewm ect ect
[07:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell karlan about mplayer
[07:43] <letoto> seth_k: that elmo?
[07:43] <GoRi||a> ok, lemme rephrase. where can i get the kernel source code for breezybadger????
[07:43] <plasmoduck> take you're pick
[07:43] <_jason> karlan, what exactly are you running?
[07:43] <seth_k|lappy> letoto, yes
[07:43] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, hmm you could have right, i'm getting closer to a connection
[07:43] <brizio> hi everybody!!
[07:43] <seth_k|lappy> letoto, he's SUPER busy though, so only bug him if you have a really good reason
[07:43] <plasmoduck> you can install more then one and change which one you use at any time with great ease.
[07:43] <vroem> yoav, mac os x is for noobs too, but it's also heaven for programmers
[07:43] <brizio> some1 can help me?!
[07:43] <yoav> plasmoduck, so i'm not sure what a window manager is, and how it realtes to my problem
[07:43] <naddar> hmmm i reinstall it :)
[07:43] <naddar> laters
[07:44] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[07:44] <plasmoduck> yoav, a window manager is the gui, what you use the mouse in an view images
[07:44] <jazzido> Hello everyone...I'm having a weird problem with emacs? On startups
[07:44] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, nope can't connect
[07:44] <plasmoduck> do what I said, reboot, install in server mode
[07:44] <jazzido> oops
[07:44] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, I'm on
[07:44] <plasmoduck> and talk to me here
[07:44] <yoav> vroem, i'm just trying to get it to work at the moment
[07:44] <jazzido> Hello everyone...I'm having a weird problem with emacs? On startup it says "Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct"
[07:44] <jazzido> so
[07:44] <Ophiocus> is there anything like a voice to pc command software?
[07:44] <jan_> how do one change the owner of a file?
[07:45] <Kyral> chown
[07:45] <karlan> _jason, a pentium 4
[07:45] <jasonjdp> my onboard audio doesnt work.  both oss and ALSA say they support it though.  why didnt ubuntu set it up right? can i fix that fact that ubuntu doenst appear to see my onboard audio?
[07:45] <Shado-x> misfit_toy: it fails by "sending cookie"
[07:45] <_jason> karlan, i meant what command
[07:45] <karlan> :P
[07:45] <jazzido> Seems my xorg.conf got messed up. Any suggestion?
[07:45] <djm62> Ophiocus: sphinx is a basic one...IBM had some software, but I doubt you could get it to work on a modern distro, even if you could find a copy
[07:45] <_jason> karlan, and do you get any ouput from it
[07:45] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, that's what mine was doing for the last 4 hours
[07:45] <brizio> someone can tell me how to use wine?
[07:45] <jono> hi all
[07:45] <yoav> plasmoduck, i thought thats the gnome/kde. can you in a side chat with me? i'll be running between 2 machines and i wont be able to follow the lines here
[07:45] <jono>  is there a way to get a specific card to use a specific module, so the dvb card uses tveeprom and pvr-350 card uses the tveeprom-ivtv module?
[07:45] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, restart gaim
[07:45] <djm62> jasonjdp: is it muted? (in hardware or software)
[07:46] <plasmoduck> brizio, don't use wine
[07:46] <karlan> _jason, i used the built in Synaptics, marked the packages for installation, applied, and the packages installed. nothing else happend after that
[07:46] <GoRi||a> anybody?? where can i find kernel source code for breezy badger???
[07:46] <plasmoduck> there is you're answer.
[07:46] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, ok, woooow i'm on  thnxxx
[07:46] <karlan> the mplayer icon is displayed in the program menu
[07:46] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, np
[07:46] <_jason> karlan, so what's wrong
[07:46] <jasonjdp> doesnt show up anywhere.  ubuntu thinks there are no sound cards... (well, its onboard audio, but still...)
[07:46] <brizio> ok
[07:46] <karlan> _jason, i cant start the program, nothing happens when i press it :)
[07:46] <djm62> brizio: from the shell, type "wine windowsprogram.exe"
[07:47] <_jason> karlan, try 'gmplayer' in a  terminal and see if you get any clues
[07:47] <plasmoduck> yoav, sure, come to #ausphreak
[07:47] <hooooyt> :|
[07:47] <djm62> :(
[07:47] <karlan> _jason, segmentationerror (translated from swedish)
[07:48] <_jason> karlan, try mplayer /path/to/videofile
[07:49] <self_> <<is just reading ...and learning
[07:50] <jasonjdp> if ubuntu didnt and doesnt see my onboard audio, but oss and ALSA both support it, how do i fix it?
[07:50] <karlan> _jason, same errormsg
[07:50] <Urthmover> maybe put in an AOL disk ...that fixes everything
[07:51] <djm62> carol vorderman is going nowhere near my computer
[07:51] <self_> lol.....AOL
[07:51] <_jason> karlan, get rid of 586 and try the 386 package
[07:51] <karlan> _jason, ok, will do :)
[07:51] <djm62> jasonjdp: when you go to Applications->Sound and Video->Volume control, there's no card, and no option in the menu to change card?
[07:52] <Shado-x> omg darkwater is kinda freaky :s
[07:52] <Ue2> anyone know how can i play counter strike?
[07:52] <jasonjdp> correct djm62
[07:52] <djm62> jasonjdp: what card is it?
[07:52] <yggdrasil> gonna try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now that the video seems stableiszed in text terminal
[07:52] <Urthmover> I use a mouse and keyboard Ue2
[07:52] <self_> Gnomefreek?
[07:52] <_> Ue2: try cvscedega
[07:52] <karlan> _jason, same error again :C
[07:52] <selinium> jasonjdp, you could try installing bum    sudo apt-get install bum  and make sure that alsa is the start up protocol. Then reboot and try again
[07:53] <Urthmover> I think CS has linux source Ue2
[07:53] <_jason> karlan, okay, you use esd right?
[07:53] <jasonjdp> a7v333 onboard audio.  i checked the bios and i dont have it turned off.  its  C-Media CMI8738
[07:53] <selinium> jasonjdp, Boot Up Manager
[07:53] <self_> does serpentine have all the functions of K3b?
[07:53] <karlan> _jason, not sure, 1 sec
[07:53] <Ue2> Urthmover, steam have linux source u mean?
[07:53] <UncleD> What would cause this error? rndc: connect failed: connection refused when I try to run /etc/init.d/bind9 reload
[07:53] <sled> hi
[07:54] <karlan> _jason, cant find anything about esd
[07:54] <Urthmover> lol
[07:54] <_jason> karlan, actually, just do 'mplayer -ao null /path/to/videofile'
[07:55] <karlan> _jason, same old, same old
[07:55] <karlan> :C
[07:55] <_jason> karlan, what if you just type 'mplayer' grr what's going on
[07:55] <karlan> _jason, again, segmentationerror
[07:55] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[07:56] <_jason> karlan, okay let me search the forums
[07:56] <kemik> where would a network connection be "mounted" ? (using sftp and "connect to server" ? )
[07:56] <karlan> _jason, ok =)
[07:56] <kemik> mounted as in the mountpoint in my local FS...
[07:56] <djm62> kemik: I don't think it would be
[07:56] <djm62> kemik: it's not done at the kernel level
[07:57] <djm62> kemik: it will be in your Places menu (as you probably know)
[07:57] <kemik> djm62:  yeah i can find it there... but id like to accss it thru /media/remotemount
[07:57] <viller> where can one download ubuntu's source-code?
[07:58] <_jason> karlan, lol i see a lot of threads with the same error but no solutions yet
[07:58] <djm62> kemik: I don't recall seeing a mainstream project to do that that way :-/
[07:58] <kemik> hurghgg
[07:58] <kemik> djm62:  so i cant access it thru a terminalwindow ?
[07:59] <karlan> _jason, that doesnt sound good :\
[07:59] <viller> where can one download ubuntu's source-code?
[07:59] <JFlash> hi
[07:59] <djm62> kemik: you can use scp as a one-liner to move things from local to remote and back
[07:59] <viller> hi
[07:59] <Shado-x> karlan, are your sources correct? using the correct version?
[07:59] <djm62> kemik: if you have ssh-keys enabled, it's pretty damn seamless
[07:59] <JFlash> hi guys. i just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to tweak it's interface
[07:59] <_jason> karlan, people are saying to remove the nvidia drivers but that makes no sense since I run mplayer fine with it
[08:00] <kemik> mmh.. but . oh well
[08:00] <kemik> nvm then ty
[08:00] <benplaut> can someone pastebin me a dapper sources.list? the installation kept failing at that step, so i skipped it
[08:00] <hardbop200> JFlash:  what do you need to do?
[08:00] <JFlash> but i'm very confused by the new namings and concepts i bump into
[08:00] <Shado-x> karlan, got the same mistake yesterday cuz i was using sources for 5.1 and i was running 5.04
[08:00] <GoRi||a> okok...which package gives me my kernel source?? linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6_0.62ubuntu2.tar.gz or linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz
[08:00] <karlan> _jason, i tried to install the nvidia drivers this morning, but it wasnt successfull
[08:00] <hardbop200> that's understandable
[08:00] <GoRi||a> all i need is kernel source
[08:00] <rosen> _jason, I did aswell but today I switched to another driver and now my nexuiz is actually playable !
[08:00] <JFlash> i'd like to know if i'm running metacity or not
[08:00] <JFlash> cz i'm looking at linuxshot.org
[08:00] <Ave_> hey, i just tried to install ubuntu and it gets stuck in booting the kernel stage, any info why this happens?
[08:01] <hardbop200> JFlash:  you probably are; you might try ps ax |grep metacity to see for sure
[08:01] <karlan> Shado-x, i am using 5.1 as far as i know
[08:01] <Shado-x> karlan, using the correct sources?
[08:01] <JFlash> and i see there are categories like metacityh an fvmn and i dont know what am i running or what i can install / switch to
[08:01] <_jason> karlan, did you upgrade or fresh install?
[08:01] <karlan> _jason, nvidia drivers?
[08:01] <djm62> kemik: you want something like http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/30 I think
[08:01] <_jason> karlan, ubuntu
[08:01] <benplaut> anyone here on dapper?
[08:01] <djm62> kemik: but it looks like hassle
[08:01] <karlan> _jason, fresh
[08:01] <dewdude> i'm thinking about swapping my ATI card for the much better supported Nvidia...is there anything i should change in my xorg aside taking the ATI driver off so when i reboot, things don't totally b0rk out on me?
[08:01] <hardbop200> JFlash - you are running gnome as a desktop, metacity is the window manager
[08:02] <hardbop200> probably ;)
[08:03] <_jason> karlan, maybe you can try to install the drivers first and go again
[08:03] <viller> where can one download ubuntu's sourcecode?
[08:03] <Ave_> hey, i just tried to install ubuntu and it gets stuck in booting the kernel stage, any info why this happens?
[08:03] <self_> viller you mean the iso?
[08:03] <misfit_toy> !source
[08:03] <ubotu> from memory, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[08:03] <karlan> _jason, okay, that sounds like a good idea. apart from my total failure with installing the nvidia drivers :D
[08:03] <_jason> karlan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:03] <misfit_toy> !kernel-headers
[08:03] <karlan> _jason, yeah,followed that one
[08:03] <ubotu> misfit_toy: I give up, what is it?
[08:03] <viller> self_ I don't know if it contains the source code
[08:03] <JFlash> hardbop200: where do i type that ? terminal?
[08:03] <karlan> but didnt get the nvidia logo to appear
[08:03] <JFlash> do i have the option to switch to fvwm as my windows manager?
[08:03] <_jason> karlan, what went wrong?
[08:04] <mrkoje> karlan,  if you are having trouble I think you could try easybreezy
[08:04] <mrkoje> ubotu tell karlan about easybreezy
[08:04] <misfit_toy> !kernel-source
[08:04] <ubotu> misfit_toy: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:04] <self_> ah i see...
[08:05] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[08:05] <karlan> _jason, first off, i tried the newer driver, and nothing happend. same old graphics etc. then i tried the legacy (having a geforce 3) and then the xserver failed, so i had to use the backup. tried the newer one again, and nothing happend there either
[08:05] <navarone> JFlash, if you have the window manager installed you can select it when you log in...click session and choose the one you want to use
[08:05] <karlan> thx mrkoje
[08:05] <hardbop200> JFlash, yes, type that in a terminal.  If it doesn't work, try putting sudo in front of it, but be careful with that!
[08:05] <Yawgmoth> e aew!
[08:05] <hardbop200> :)
[08:05] <SQlvpapir> oh yeah i am going to have the expirience of ubuntu within a hour or something :)
[08:05] <_jason> karlan, you did 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[08:06] <twosticks> hey all, looking for some help with apache2/mod_perl/cpan on breezy
[08:06] <self_> viller try here..http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-14756.html
[08:06] <GoRi||a> wow...
[08:06] <JFlash> also, i keep getting drawing errors in breeze badger, like straight lines that show up across the screen in various directions. is this expected in breeze badger?
[08:06] <GoRi||a> i ask the same question
[08:06] <GoRi||a> and no one answered
[08:06] <karlan> _jason,  yepp, followed the guide exactly
[08:06] <Yawgmoth> como instalo uma placa d som?estou comeando usar linux..
[08:07] <aquarius> I've just upgraded a machine to Breezy using the CD (it's not connected to the net). Gnumeric is not installed. When I try and install Gnumeric it says that it will remove gdm and nautilus! That's not good. Why's it doing that?
[08:07] <Eraamion> Evening.
[08:07] <djm62> !es
[08:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:07] <dewdude> maybe it has to get rid of them to update gnymeric
[08:08] <dewdude> gnumeric
[08:08] <_jason> karlan grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:08] <karlan> driver "nvidia"
[08:08] <aquarius> So if I install gnumeric and it removes gdm and nautilus, I'll then be able to reinstall gdm and nautilus?
[08:08] <karlan> i setup that ony myself after the third attempt :)
[08:08] <naddar> ok nice ubuntu works fine now :)
[08:09] <navarone> kalran what card do you have?
[08:09] <karlan> from nv -> nvidia
[08:09] <karlan> navarone, geforce 3 ti 200/300 something
[08:09] <navarone> karlan* ^
[08:09] <spudse> hello, what is wrong in this query --> sqlite_query($db, "INSERT INTO links VALUES ('$value[fix] ','$value[org] ')"); ?
[08:09] <yggdrasil> eobanb ok making some sence of it now
[08:09] <spudse> it gives me "Warning:  sqlite_query() expects parameter 1 to be resource, string given in (...) "
[08:09] <navarone> karlan do you just install drivers or has something gone wrong since installing?
[08:10] <spudse> sry wrong channel
[08:10] <self_> viller?
[08:10] <djm62> it's impolite and has no context
[08:10] <viller> self_?
[08:10] <karlan> navarone, what do you mean? i did the installationprocess from the wiki at ubuntu
[08:10] <Talisker>  how do I check the size of a directory and all of it contains?
[08:10] <e2k> um, what did I just do with sudo mv /usr/local/man /usr/local/man.backup ? did i make a directory a file? :S
[08:10] <self_> try here...http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-14756.html
[08:10] <karlan> e2k, you moved the directory if i am right
[08:11] <navarone> karlan I will paste my video section from xorg.conf at pastebin and you can take a look...I have a Asus Geforce 3 v8200...brb
[08:11] <self_> some people are asking the same question
[08:11] <_> does msn work?
[08:11] <yggdrasil> eobanb basicly macos defaulted the prebootx screen resoultion to 1024 and it was screwing it up after i lanched
[08:11] <self_> you may get a link
[08:11] <karlan> navarone, that would be great :) thx
[08:11] <Delvien> is gaim 2.0  available via Apt-get ??
[08:11] <_jason> Delvien, no
[08:11] <_> Delvien: yes
[08:11] <VersusGod> the compile and install for gaim was quick and easy
[08:11] <_> i thought it was in backport
[08:11] <naddar> is there a good server where i can find w32codecs mplayer ect
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell naddar about mplayer
[08:12] <eobanb> yggdrasil, ah i see
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell naddar about w32codecs
[08:12] <_jason> karlan, I don't know then, try again later when different people are on
[08:12] <Delvien> which is it ?
[08:12] <yggdrasil> eobanb and x and this card wont go over 8 bit depth
[08:12] <_jason> Delvien, it's not
[08:13] <karlan> _jason, ok, thx for the help anyway =)
[08:13] <e2k> karlan, ls -la gives lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    9 2005-12-09 18:06 man.backup -> share/man
[08:13] <e2k> and there's no share/man :O
[08:13] <karlan> e2k, did you type sudo mv /usr/local/man /usr/local/man.backup ?
[08:13] <e2k> karlan, yup
[08:14] <karlan> try to revert the command. sudo mv /usr/local/man.backup /usr/local/man
[08:14] <karlan> im not really sure, but that is what i would do :)
[08:14] <navarone> karlan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5961 <-- mind you it may not be exactly the settings you require...but may give you a clue
[08:14] <karlan> navarone, thx =)
[08:14] <Delvien> ugh my CDrom drive isnt automounting, what is the command to mount the cd?
[08:16] <e2k> karlan, I did that, but now the symlink just moved inside man :S
[08:16] <naddar> before i knew a server marilat or something, does it works in ubuntu also
[08:16] <navarone> Delvien go to System/Admin/Device Manager and find your drive...then click Advanced in the drives properies and make sure automount is set to true
[08:16] <karlan> e2k, ok, then i have no clue. kinda new at this to :)
[08:16] <benplaut> aaaahhhhh
[08:16] <karlan> navarone, i have done some changes, will just restart x
[08:16] <karlan> brb
[08:16] <e2k> I wonder what i did :>
[08:16] <MonsieurBon> is musicbrainz already included in ubuntu somewhere?
[08:16] <benplaut> feals so good to be on the bleeding edge again :)
[08:17] <benplaut> i'd forgotten what it's like :)
[08:17] <GoRi||a> ok, i think im really close to gettin it...ive got a wireless card in my laptop, and just installed the driver, and activated it(modprobe) but it still dooesnt show up under ifconfig -a or iwconfig
[08:17] <GoRi||a> helppp!!!
[08:17] <GoRi||a> whatd i do wrong??
[08:18] <_> in ubuntu?;
[08:18] <naddar> in apt-cache i dont find any of mplayer :(
[08:18] <Delvien> navarone i dont have "Device manager " in there, i just recently switched back from KDE after a long time, and KDE had messed with my menus, is there a way to run it from terminal?
[08:18] <_> naddar: include multiver and universe repos
[08:18] <selinium> nadder:   apt-cache search mplayer
[08:18] <navarone> Delvien...I do not use kde so i don't know the menus...but I am sure there is as imilar menu item in kde...poke around
[08:19] <naddar> selinium:  i did
[08:19] <Delvien> navarone no no im in gnome right now,
[08:19] <_> naddar: goto synaptics and include multiver and universe repositories
[08:19] <naddar> thats why i asked if anyone have a good source where i can add it to my sources.list
[08:19] <selinium> And you got nothing?
[08:19] <MonsieurBon> do the new ati binary drivers support software suspend?
[08:20] <_> naddar: mplayer is in the repository
[08:20] <selinium> naddar: Have you got standard repos?
[08:20] <_> Package Versions: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy) / 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20051205-0ubuntu7 (dapper)
[08:20] <naddar> selinium: hmmm how i check that
[08:20] <_> Description: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
 Ubuntu Package mplayer (graphics) [08:20] <selinium> naddar: have you changed    /etc/apt/sources.list     before?
[08:21] <naddar> yeah on debian,
[08:21] <Delvien> Anyone know how to run "DEVICE MANAGER" from terminal?
[08:21] <naddar> manualy i can do it
[08:21] <selinium> naddar: pm?
[08:21] <pm> yes?
[08:21] <_> naddar: are u running KDE or gnome?
[08:21] <pm> :)
[08:21] <naddar> gnome
[08:21] <selinium> there is always one! :)
[08:21] <JFlash> i'm trying to install Beep Media Player. i have downloaded a .deb  file, but my system wont open it. what should I do?
[08:21] <aquarius> delvien: hal-device-manager, I think
[08:21] <selinium> naddar, ok for a prvate message...
[08:21] <_> naddar: go open "Synaptics Package Manager"
[08:22] <naddar> selinium: yeah
[08:22] <djm62> JFlash: from a terminal, sudo dpkg -i bmp... (whatever the filename is)
[08:22] <Delvien> aquarius ah thanks
[08:22] <aquarius> JFlash: you can install Beep from Synaptic Package Manager if you'd prefer to do it that way.
[08:22] <Delvien> navarone ah my automount feature was uninstalled for some reason
[08:22] <djm62> JFlash: on a higher level, why have you downloaded a .deb file? couldn't you get it from the package manager?
[08:23] <JFlash> thanks boys but .... i dont have a clue what package manager is . lol
[08:23] <navarone> delvien try "hal-device-manager"
[08:23] <JFlash> i just dropped into the linux world :(
[08:23] <djm62> JFlash: not necessarily boys ;) System->Administration->Add Packages
[08:24] <djm62> JFlash: is designed so you never have to know what a .deb is, nor how to install one
[08:24] <karlan> navarone, are you there?
[08:24] <navarone> karlan?
[08:24] <karlan> that didnt go well at all :)
[08:24] <JFlash> ok let me try that
[08:24] <navarone> what did you change?
[08:24] <selinium> _ he is running 64bit, thats why!
[08:24] <djm62> JFlash: beg pardon, System->Administration->Add Applications
[08:25] <karlan> navarone, i could have sweared that i had a agp-card, so i added the agpline. the x crashed, and i had to alter it back, and use "NV" instead now.
[08:25] <SirKillalot> do you know a tool like frontpage for linux?
[08:25] <olipaul> hi all. i'm struggling with getting my wirless network card to connect to my router.
[08:25] <Kyral> Frontpage is evil
[08:25] <aquarius> SirKillalot: Nvu
[08:25] <SirKillalot> Kyral, that's why I ask if you know something elese
[08:25] <SirKillalot> -e
[08:25] <yggdrasil> here it is gents
[08:25] <yggdrasil> got it up and in here
[08:25] <olipaul> i can scan and see the essid name, but when i use the network gui to connect to it, there's no connection
[08:25] <yggdrasil> starmax 3000/180
[08:25] <navarone> karlan...if you put in the PCI thingy you may get errors cos your card may be in different slot in computer
[08:25] <padraig> is there any particular log that will help me diagnose a problem with cups not running?
[08:26] <olipaul> any ideas on configuring ubuntu for wireless?
[08:26] <Kyral> SirKillalot: Sorry its my attitude towards WYSIWYG editiors, but I have heard that Nvu puts out clean code
[08:26] <karlan> navarone, yeah, but it is a agp-card. but it says something about a pci-slot?
[08:26] <trappist> olipaul: try running dhclient
[08:26] <self_> ah ... i have problems with wireless
[08:26] <Papageno> Why won't amaroK install? It has no problems getting other packages from the repositories. About amaroK , though, it keeps saying it can't find some package or whatnot.
[08:26] <karlan> navarone, BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[08:27] <navarone> navarone...yeah mine is agp as well...but it says pci slot...I think that is normal...however the slots specified in my xorg.conf may not be accurate for your card and it's slot
[08:27] <karlan> navarone, yeah, but i didnt alter that one
[08:28] <navarone> karlan ok
[08:28] <navarone> karlan what errors are you getting?
[08:28] <karlan> navarone, do you have the link to the pastebin again?
[08:28] <navarone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5961
[08:28] <karlan> navarone, i didnt get any errors, just a screen with upper black, and the lower screen was white
[08:28] <flodine> does anyone use xset fot there fonts
[08:28] <karlan> quite nice actually, sort of a future screensaver ;D
[08:29] <navarone> karlan have you specified refresh and resolution rates?
[08:29] <flodine> does anyone use xset for there fonts
[08:29] <karlan> navarone, hold on, will paste my xorg
[08:29] <karlan> navarone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5962
[08:30] <karlan> not much for options there :)
[08:31] <flodine> can some one tell does storing your font in .font work
[08:32] <navarone> karlan...in xorg.conf the section "Module" are "Glcore" and "glx" uncommented?
[08:32] <navarone> karlan> uncommented = no "#"
[08:33] <karlan> navarone, nope, not uncommented
[08:33] <navarone> karlan so they have # in front?
[08:33] <karlan> oh, no # in front :)
[08:33] <navarone> hmm
[08:33] <djm62> flodine: yes it does
[08:34] <flodine> ok djm62 will i have to use xset
[08:34] <djm62> flodine: go to font:/// in nautilus to see the fonts in .font
[08:34] <self_> anyone running Dapper Drake?
[08:34] <navarone> well...the "nv" should be "nvidia" but changing that gives problems?
[08:34] <djm62> flodine: what, on a high level, are you trying to achieve?
[08:34] <JFlash> djm62, are you still there?
[08:34] <djm62> JFlash: yes
[08:35] <JFlash> i added it to synaptic but ...
[08:35] <djm62> JFlash: and applied changes?
[08:35] <JFlash> i think it will install the latest unstable version?  :(
[08:35] <djm62> JFlash: not on breezy it won't
[08:35] <JFlash> there are several versions in the repository, how do i pick witch one it will isntall?
[08:36] <flodine> djm62 just wondering if i add artwiz font to the .font folder do i have to use xset fp+
[08:36] <JFlash> it says 0.12.9 + cvs
[08:36] <djm62> flodine: not for gnome stuff
[08:36] <self_> <<is running Breezy..wondered if dapper is stable?
[08:36] <padraig> ok, I am missing two files that cups needs to talk to (/etc/cups/printers.conf and /etc/cups/classes.conf ) (or so /var/log/cups/error_log tells me) any suggestions?
[08:36] <karlan> navarone, it worked before, but when i changed it back, i got the black/white screen. will try again, hold on
[08:36] <flodine> djm62 to set them for a terminal
[08:36] <trappist> self_: by definition, no
[08:36] <robotgeek> self_: no
[08:37] <JFlash> djm62,  is that the version you are using?
[08:37] <self_> ah so no point in upgrade then
[08:37] <soundray> djm62, on a high level, what do you have to do to use artwiz fonts in Gnome, apart from installing xfonts-artwiz?
[08:37] <robotgeek> self_: not yet, unless you want to help fix bugs
[08:37] <karlan> navarone, im gona get online with my laptop so i dont have to quit irc everytime to restart x etc. 2 secs
[08:37] <self_> k
[08:38] <djm62> JFlash: I like rhythmbox myself...but the version in synaptic has been quality controlled and will be safe to install, if you're using a supported distro
[08:38] <navarone> karlan did you install drivers according to wiki?
[08:38] <djm62> flodine: if you're using gnome-terminal, put the fonts into .font and all will be well
[08:38] <karlan> navarone, yepp
[08:39] <flodine> thxs
[08:39] <djm62> soundray: I'd /think/ that installing xfonts-artwiz would make them available to gnome too, possibly after a login/logout
[08:39] <JFlash> djm62, thank you!
[08:39] <karlan> navarone, didnt work first time, so i tried the legacy, and that went really wrong, so i got back to the newer one
[08:39] <navarone> karlan ddid you install restricted modules for your arch?
[08:39] <karlan> navarone, now you lost me
[08:39] <soundray> djm62, 'New login' under Applications-System should work, too, shouldn't it?
[08:39] <djm62> JFlash: the package management stuff is really nice, unless you have particularly specialist needs you should never need to download a .deb
[08:40] <djm62> soundray: ummm, probably :)
[08:40] <soundray> djm62, since it starts a new X server on a separate vt...
[08:40] <karlan> navarone, i just followed the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:40] <JFlash> djm62, indeed. it's hot!
[08:40] <navarone> karlan the wiki has a part about restricted modules...right after the part about searching for nvidia in synaptic
[08:40] <djm62> soundray: quicker for you to try it than for me to find out ;)
[08:40] <soundray> djm62, but it doesn't. Not for me, and not for flodine, if I understand his problem.
[08:40] <soundray> djm62, yeah, I've tried several times.
[08:41] <navarone> karlan yeah thats what i am looking at
[08:41] <djm62> soundray: so why did you ask :(
[08:41] <karlan> navarone, yeah that one :)
[08:41] <soundray> djm62, I need some encouragement before I file a bug against xfonts-artwiz.
[08:41] <karlan> i installed the wrong first time, but i changed it to 686
[08:41] <djm62> ah...
[08:41] <JFlash> i find the default ubuntu text font to big, i'd like to have smaller menu and control fonts in my screen. is that easy to change?
[08:42] <karlan> reading after 9 hours of working night isnt always the easiest :)
[08:42] <soundray> djm62, hope that's okay -- sorry if it's not.
[08:42] <JFlash> i messed around with the "themes" dialog and it's quite poor, wont let you change font sizes :(
[08:42] <navarone> karaln...search nvidia againa nd make sure you uninstall legacy drivers if you previously installed them...I would doa  complete removal if they are present
[08:42] <djm62> soundray: of course...just slightly baffled
[08:42] <karlan> navarone, ok, will try
[08:42] <karlan> 2 secs
[08:42] <djm62> JFlash: System->Preferences->Font
[08:43] <navarone> karlan could be some kinda config issue...<shrug>
[08:43] <djm62> JFlash: because people's taste in eyecandy doesn't correlate well with eyesight ;)
[08:43] <karlan> navarone, is there anything i have to do with the line 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' ?
[08:43] <karlan> disable it?
[08:44] <Opinie> what does a daemon meen?
[08:44] <djm62> soundray: is there anything on the wiki about that?
[08:44] <navarone> karlan I don't think so...but ti has been a while since I went thru driver install...not sure what you may be expected to do
[08:45] <djm62> Opinie: Disk And Execution Monitor, literally.  A programme which runs all the time and requires no direct user interaction
[08:45] <karlan> navarone, hold on, will change irc-client
[08:45] <navarone> karaln search for restricted modules and make sure they are installed
[08:45] <djm62> *program
[08:45] <soundray> djm62, checking
[08:45] <karlan_> :)
[08:45] <Opinie> djm62: eeh... ok...
[08:46] <JFlash> JFlash, yea, lol.  but i do use very large text when i'm reading in firefox. for menus and controls i'ts not really that much a problem , cz you might know that ppl really reads shapes and images, not actually letters ;)
[08:46] <navarone> karlan what does "Lmnar" mean?
[08:46] <djm62> Opinie: I wasn't sure what level you were asking at ;)
[08:46] <karlan> navarone leaving in swedish :)
[08:46] <pm> is it really the easiest distro in the world?
[08:46] <Opinie> djm62: so it just monitors what's happening?
[08:46] <karlan> different charset :)
[08:46] <navarone> ok...thought it was "Later"
[08:47] <karlan> an A with 2 dots over it :)
[08:47] <Opinie> djm62: yeah I'm not sure either...
[08:47] <karlan> navarone "connection to xserver lost"
[08:47] <karlan> 1 sec
[08:47] <karlan> doing a complete reboot
[08:47] <nadia007> I'm trying to setup a ubuntu network server with ubuntu clients.  What do I have to do with ubuntu server to manager login users and account permission etc?
[08:48] <Jemt> Greetings. I'm looking for a special screensaver for my system. It's a Matrix screen saver that display images within the code - difficult to explain. Does anyone know that? I already got GLMatrix and XMatrix - don't think it is one of these though
[08:48] <navarone> karlan yeah you may need reboot in order for modules to load
[08:48] <pm> IS UBUNTU THE EASIEST DISTRO???!!!
[08:48] <djm62> Opinie: originally that was what they did.  now any useful background process tends to be called a daemon... webserver processes, cleanup processes.  the "janitors" rather than the front-of-house staff like browsers, editors and games
[08:48] <bz0b> pm: Just might be
[08:48] <SQlvpapir> thanks for your help everybody got it worked out now.
[08:48] <rackerz> pm, there's lots. it's one of the most easiest i've ever used.
[08:48] <nadia007> pm, it's all a matter of opinion, but if you're asking me... I'd say yup!
[08:48] <rackerz> agreed.
[08:48] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[08:49] <pm> Many people say it's the easiest one
[08:49] <Opinie> djm62: ok thanks a lot I think I actually understand... lol... ;-)
[08:49] <karlan> oh so slow computer :>
[08:49] <Shado-x> shadox lives :D
[08:49] <pm> which one's the hardest, then?
[08:50] <rackerz> Ue2 I think there's a beta. Not out yet though, check www.steampowered.com (go to the forums)
[08:50] <karlan> its quite fun to tamper with the whole trial and error concept :) gives you a good overlook of the system
[08:50] <Ue2> thanks rackerz
[08:50] <djm62> Opinie: if you're looking at process lists, the daemons tend to have "d" at the end of the program name, and are best left alone unless you know what you're doing
[08:50] <nadia007> pm, slackware I found a bit tough... all command line... you master that, you can handle anything!
[08:50] <djm62> pm: linux from scratch
[08:50] <karlan> navarone ok, so now i am following the guide again
[08:50] <karlan> 2 secs
[08:50] <pm> what about gentoo?
[08:51] <navarone> pm...it is quite easy if you have some experience using text editors in config files...adn that is not hard to pick up any way...most probs relate to vidcardx and mouse/keyboard from my experience
[08:51] <twosticks> okay, i seriously need some help with apache2 & mod_perl2
[08:51] <soundray> djm62, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto essentially says that once installed via synaptic, fonts should be accessible. It mentions that you may have to restart the program where you want to use the font, but nothing about X needing restarting.
[08:51] <navarone> pm...no idea about gentoo
[08:52] <Opinie> djm62: No I just started thinking "what a h*** does a daemon meen? O_o"
[08:52] <karlan> navarone when i mark nvidia-glx for installation, it automaticlly marks the 386 module for installation to
[08:52] <karlan> why?
[08:52] <Ue2> rackerz, where is it?
[08:52] <Ue2> i didnt find it
[08:52] <pm> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[08:53] <twosticks> can anyone tell me how to configure apache2/mod_perl2 to produce core dumps?
[08:53] <djm62> soundray: you are on breezy? can you tell me an artwiz fontname off the top of your head?
[08:53] <navarone> karlan are you running anythign other than 386 kernel?
[08:54] <plasmoduck> pm, try OpenVMS
[08:54] <karlan> navarone pentium 4 is 686 right?
[08:54] <plasmoduck> my OS of choice for VAX and Alphas
[08:54] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[08:54] <soundray> djm62, anorexic :)
[08:54] <navarone> karlan yes...but do you have the 686 kernel installed?
[08:54] <pm> what is it?
[08:54] <karlan> navarone not sure :)
[08:54] <plasmoduck> NetBSD for x86
[08:55] <nadia007> does ubuntu have it's own version of active directory like win to authenticate users?
[08:55] <plasmoduck> pm, or be a man and run Plan 9
[08:55] <navarone> karlan you may need to update kernel...search for linux-686
[08:55] <soundray> djm62, erm, sorry, that one isn't in artwiz. aqui, drift, edges...
[08:55] <karlan> i thaught that it wasnt possible to run a different kernel than the one for a specific cpu?
[08:55] <karlan> ok
[08:55] <djm62> soundray: Astron Boy?
[08:55] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[08:56] <rackerz> just a sec
[08:56] <rackerz> i'll get the link
[08:56] <korhalf> Ue2, im pretty sure you can wine it
[08:56] <soundray> djm62, no, not that one. anorexia is what I meant above.
[08:56] <korhalf> Ue2, steam, as in cs:s and all that?
[08:56] <pm> Plan 9????] 
[08:56] <rackerz> yep as in them
[08:56] <Ue2> i want to play counter striek yes
[08:56] <navarone> karlan yes...but restricted modules will only run for the kernel you ar eusing...that is why it wants 386 modules no doubt...are you given a choice or 386 or 686 kernel to boot when you start in grub?
[08:57] <djm62> soundray: well, I have xfonts-artwiz and it isn't available in my gnome apps (I just assumed any funky fonts were artwiz)
[08:57] <karlan> navarone hmm, not sure. i installed the 686 now. reboot?
[08:57] <toresbe> plasmoduck: Ew. A VAX needs 4.2BSD.
[08:57] <Jemt> Does anyone know a screensaver which simulates the console from The Matrix? I know that there exists a screensaver which displays images within the matrix code. I Just can't seem to find it any where. Please help :)
[08:57] <navarone> karaln...if you just installed 686 make sure restricted modules 686 are done as well
[08:57] <rackerz> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/
[08:57] <rackerz> There are the Steam forums
[08:57] <karlan> yeah, that was installed to
[08:57] <toresbe> uh, 4.4BSD*
[08:57] <djm62> soundray: low-priority bug in need of a workaround and fix next update, you think?
[08:57] <karlan> and the common thingie :)
[08:57] <plasmoduck> toresbe, no way! VMS for life!
[08:58] <korhalf> karlan, everything working ? :)
[08:58] <navarone> karlan...okay...reboot and when grub menu comes up select the 686 one...if all goes well you can use synaptic to uninstall 386 kernel to save space if it's an issue
[08:58] <karlan> navarone i have been booting the 386 kernel :S
[08:58] <soundray> djm62, sounds right. Unless other xfonts-* packages exhibit that behaviour, which I will check before I file anything.
[08:58] <plasmoduck> Digital Unix
[08:58] <plasmoduck> HP-UX
[08:58] <karlan> navarone can i assume that the problem lies there? :)
[08:59] <naddar> anyone knows where i can find good am-64 bits soft
[08:59] <navarone> korhalf, karlan is trying to get nvidia to paly ball...I was thinking it may be restricted modules for different arch's installed
[08:59] <rackerz> Sorry to interrupt, but has anyone gotten Gaim working in Kubuntu?
[08:59] <seth_k|lappy> rackerz, sure, wfm
[08:59] <rackerz> wfm?
[08:59] <navarone> karlan...to be honest I dunno...but I did three kernel upgrades and now use k7
[08:59] <karlan> korhalf oh, didnt see you :) using standard mirc now, so now highlights :)
[09:00] <plasmoduck> !tell rackerz about search
[09:00] <navarone> kalran...if you are using windows...dl Icechat...better than mirc
[09:00] <karlan> korhalf working on the nvidia problem still :) se if it is working now that i am booting the right kernel ;D
[09:01] <UncleD> What would cause this error? rndc: connect failed: connection refused when I try to run /etc/init.d/bind9 reload
[09:01] <karlan> navarone nah, this is just temporary. on my laptop now, using x-chat as standard :)
[09:01] <plasmoduck> rackerz, if you want to talk, talk in #ausphreak
[09:01] <plasmoduck> please don't dcc chat me
[09:02] <rackerz> Sorry, i meant to say has anyone gotten the Gaim beta to work yet.
[09:02] <rackerz> I can't seem to get it working, it wont launch
[09:02] <naddar> anyone have a url with software for me  :)
[09:02] <navarone> naddar...tucows...<s>
[09:02] <plasmoduck> rackerz, read the log file.
[09:03] <plasmoduck> naddar, software for what?
[09:03] <rackerz> where would i find it?
[09:03] <rackerz> in my home folder?
[09:03] <plasmoduck> rackerz, /var/log/
[09:03] <karlan> brb
[09:03] <naddar> plasmoduck: i'm looking for a server or http with ubuntu 64bits software
[09:03] <rackerz> hmmmmm people have have been telling me the wrong things
[09:03] <cdubya> what's a good midi player?
[09:04] <karlan_> navarone, i got this errormsg when typing this command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:04] <karlan_> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[09:04] <karlan_> changing manually?
[09:04] <plasmoduck> naddar, so you want a webserver?
[09:04] <plasmoduck> !tell naddar about search
[09:04] <karlan_> brb again :)
[09:04] <plasmoduck> sudo apt-get install apache
[09:05] <naddar> no i like to find the mplayer-amd64 bits deb file
[09:05] <naddar> to install it :( but i dont find any sources to add it in my sources.list
[09:05] <DonVincenzo> why can I read this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php while my version of amarok is still 1.3.1 ?
[09:05] <karlan_> navarone, still no nvidia logo :\
[09:05] <DonVincenzo> and my packages "up to date
[09:07] <Shado-x> h guys i'm off for a while, as designer (making a site for audi) i got a lot of work.
[09:07] <plasmoduck> naddar, apt-cache search mplayer
[09:07] <Shado-x> goodnight everybody & grtz from belgium (k)
[09:09] <karlan_> navarone, still there?
[09:09] <navarone> karlan...go to terminal and try glxgears...see if it runs
[09:10] <gothmog_1-50> hallo zusammen!
[09:10] <karlan_> navarone, yeah, it works
[09:10] <navarone> karlan...try glxgears -printfps and see how high a frame rate you get
[09:11] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[09:11] <rackerz> Ask in the steamforums
[09:11] <rackerz> arcor-ip.net has Quit iRC ("Verlassend")
[09:11] <rackerz> [8:11pm]  <Ue2> are any
[09:11] <rackerz> ? Ignore that
[09:11] <navarone> kalran...you are using breezy right?
[09:11] <karlan_> navarone, 9893 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1978.312 FPS
[09:11] <karlan_> navarone, yeah
[09:12] <navarone> karlan what exactly is the prob with drivers?
[09:13] <naddar> how can i install a downloaded .deb fike
[09:13] <naddar> how can i install a downloaded .deb file
[09:13] <navarone> nadar dpkg -i <name of file>.deb
[09:13] <karlan_> navarone, first off, i cant change the refresh rate on the screen (supports 85 hz at this resolution) and the graphics in ex. screensavers etc are very poor.
[09:13] <b166> if i wan to find some file
[09:13] <b166> what its the command in terminal?
[09:13] <karlan_> not that i care about the screensavers, but it could be good to have the right drivers
[09:14] <riley> guys anyone know why I am not allowed to edit my wiki home page....  I am a new user, is there some lockout period?
[09:14] <naddar> navarone: thans
[09:14] <padraig> ok, I am missing two files that cups needs to talk to (/etc/cups/printers.conf and /etc/cups/classes.conf ) (or so /var/log/cups/error_log tells me) any suggestions?
[09:14] <riley> (for the ubuntu developer site)
[09:14] <navarone> karaln...paste your full xorg in pastebin
[09:14] <navarone> naddar you need to be in directory file is in to run in terminal
[09:14] <karlan_> navarone, ok hold on
[09:15] <naddar> navarone:  it tells me its holded by another proces
[09:15] <navarone> karaln> I have a section that specifies refresha nd resolution...I will see if it diff from yours
[09:15] <karlan_> navarone, url to pastebin? :)
[09:15] <karlan_> navarone, found it :)
[09:15] <navarone> !pastebin
[09:15] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:15] <cdubya> anyone know the midi plugin package name for beep media player?.
[09:16] <karlan_> navarone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5965
[09:16] <naddar> navarone: from netherlands?
[09:16] <navarone> naddar...do you have two terminals open or otherwise using the file somewhere else?
[09:16] <navarone> naddar no...Canada
[09:17] <naddar> damn, slang1 there is no 64bits version for it :(
[09:18] <Knowerrors> Whats the ubuntu off topic irc?
[09:18] <naddar> navarone: mplayer-amd64: Needs: slang1 (> 1.4.9dbs-4)
[09:19] <navarone> karaln...what kinda monitor you using?
[09:19] <navarone> naddar sry...notr using 64bit proc
[09:19] <karlan_> navarone, fujitsu siemens scaleo c994 19"
[09:19] <naddar> ok :(
[09:19] <naddar> anyone using 64bits version?
[09:20] <yggdrasil> hey guys i feel retarded but can i ask for some help getting fluxbox going on this ppc distro ?
[09:20] <navarone> karlan...do you have user manual for monitor?
[09:20] <rackerz> can anybody confirm the forums are abit slow at the moment?
[09:21] <yggdrasil>  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed just lookes like a dependecnie issue how can i do a no dep ?
[09:21] <karlan_> navarone, nope, i dont :\
[09:21] <trappist> yggdrasil: it's not pretending to depend on that package.  it needs it.
[09:21] <naddar> is there a version for flux 64bits?
[09:22] <Danielle-> hi, does anyone here use Opera?
[09:22] <trappist> Danielle-: probably
[09:22] <JFlash> i just installed Beet Media Player using the synap.. package manager but it wont play my mp3 files. it loads them but playback wont start. what am i doing wrong?
[09:22] <riley> anyone know why I cant create a new wiki page on ubuntu's website
[09:22] <karlan_> navarone, w8, i found the manual at the manufactorors homepage
[09:22] <Danielle-> can you help me clear all cookies?
[09:22] <karlan_> :)
[09:22] <trappist> !tell JFlash about mp3
[09:23] <karlan_> navarone, nope, that was a dead end :\
[09:23] <karlan_> "No manuals are available at present."
[09:23] <trappist> riley: you need to get an account
[09:23] <riley> i have an account
[09:23] <riley> i am logged in
[09:24] <JFlash> !tell
[09:24] <yggdrasil> trappist i cant seem to find that pkg anywhere to dl ...
[09:24] <rockin_stan>  <----mal afk
[09:24] <yggdrasil> sorry im kinda of a newb when it comes to this part of it.. i made ubuntu work on a starmax 3000/180 so im not feeling too bad
[09:25] <JFlash> trappist, thank you
[09:25] <Danielle-> i went to tools>preferences>cookies and cleared everything but when i go to pages i've already been to they're highlighted like i have cookies somewhere pages i haven't been too are highlighted a different colour
[09:25] <trappist> yggdrasil: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?
[09:26] <trappist> Danielle-: that sounds like cache, not cookies
[09:26] <benplaut> can someone give me one good reason why the bitstream fonts aren't default?
[09:26] <Danielle-> OK i'll it thanks
[09:27] <trappist> Danielle-: tools->delete private data
[09:28] <yggdrasil> trappist Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:28] <Danielle-> Wow, it worked. thanks trappist :)
[09:28] <yggdrasil> :(
[09:29] <trappist> yggdrasil: and where did you get fluxbox? did you try sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[09:29] <JaZyLNX> okay guys i have a 200gb drive on /dev/sda1 i want to format it, and conver it from fat32 -> ext3 how do i do it?
[09:29] <yggdrasil> trappist yea i did
[09:29] <yggdrasil> it was a package that um
[09:30] <yggdrasil> i downloaded i guesseim probobly gonna have to compile it huh
[09:30] <p_al> hi i have some problem with the keyboard. Iam not able to use norwegian keyboard. i have added norwegian in the keyboard layout but iam not able to use special characters
[09:30] <trappist> yggdrasil: you downloaded it, or you did apt-get install?
[09:30] <yggdrasil> no apt-get for fluxbox here
[09:30] <yggdrasil> i downloaded it a .deb
[09:30] <wookie_boy> --- gulp --- just installed ubuntu for my very first linux box.. got one question on video resolution
[09:31] <theblue> yggdrasil: You need to enable universe.
[09:31] <yggdrasil> ahhh thanks
[09:31] <navarone> karlan_, try this in monitor section http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5966  I found the horizontal and vertical limits for the mo9nitor...the lower values are what is on mine...the higher ones are your maximum...put that in and restart x
[09:31] <cdubya> can anyone tell me where to find the package names for midi plugins for beep-media-player or suggest a good alternative to playing midi files?
[09:31] <karlan_> navarone, thx =)
[09:32] <wookie_boy> basically it wont let me go above 800 even though it shows my ati rage card..
[09:32] <navarone> karlan_,  lemme know how it works
[09:32] <trappist> yggdrasil: you're generally going to have bad luck downloading .debs.  they're usually going to be binary-incompatible and/or have unresolvable dependency issues if they're not for your specific distro/version
[09:32] <wookie_boy> do I need to sacrifice a chicken?
[09:32] <karlan_> navarone, yeah, brb :)
[09:32] <mantrax> Hi!
[09:32] <wookie_boy> hi!
[09:32] <mantrax> Alguien habla castellano?
[09:33] <mantrax> I'm a newbie in Ubuntu
[09:33] <_jason> !es
[09:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:33] <trappist> wookie_boy: what driver are you using
[09:33] <remi> hi all
[09:33] <wookie_boy> don't know
[09:33] <mantrax> Thanx
[09:33] <trappist> wookie_boy: try 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'
[09:34] <wookie_boy> k will do
[09:34] <mr3vil> hi everybody
[09:34] <korhalf> hello
[09:34] <mr3vil> <- new to ubuntu
[09:34] <trappist> wookie_boy: and change 'ati' to 'fglrx' in the device section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <korhalf> <- okay
[09:34] <wookie_boy> fglrx.. got it
[09:34] <Dublines> need help uninstalling kubuntu
[09:35] <theblue> Dublines: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <trappist> theblue: that won't do anything useful
[09:35] <theblue> Oh?
[09:35] <korhalf> that doesnt do it
[09:35] <korhalf> the programs still stay
[09:35] <trappist> it's a meta-package.  it won't remove any real packages.
[09:35] <jenda> Is a BJ Color printer better than a Laser Corol for quality?
[09:35] <korhalf> exactly
[09:35] <karlan_> navarone, you are aware of that you are just a pure simple god? :D
[09:35] <korhalf> BJ color printer you say?
[09:35] <korhalf> lol
[09:36] <_jason> Dublines, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[09:36] <karlan_> worked like a charm :-)
[09:36] <navarone> karaln...shhh...don't let it get around...all that humbling and worship gets me down
[09:36] <karlan_> thx alot :D
[09:36] <_oP> hello all, i have problems since clean install ubuntu breezy, situation is that i can set up my xmms player to output oss, esd (have deactivated system sounds) alsa ans so on..
[09:36] <karlan_> navarone, hehe :P
[09:36] <trappist> dustin_: try 'sudo apt-get remove kwin'.  enough of kde depends on kwin that it should get most of it.
[09:36] <navarone> karlan no prob
[09:36] <p_al> never mind i fixed it
[09:36] <Dublines> have never used linux before, obviously not very straight forward
[09:36] <p_al> bye
[09:36] <cdubya> jenda, depends on who you ask.....heh
[09:36] <mr3vil> anybody any important advices before i start using Kubuntu!?
[09:37] <mr3vil> like important programs, or "must-haves"!?
[09:37] <korhalf> mr3vil, don't use it.
[09:37] <korhalf> use Gnome
[09:37] <karlan_> no more sore eyes for me :) yay :p
[09:37] <mr3vil> why?
[09:37] <trappist> mr3vil: depends on what you do
[09:37] <korhalf> karlan_, what was the problem? refresh rate?
[09:37] <_jason> karlan_, what turned out to be the problem?
[09:37] <navarone> korhalf, yeah
[09:37] <karlan_> korhalf, yeah
[09:37] <korhalf> pfft
[09:37] <karlan_> :)
[09:37] <mr3vil> trappist. just usual apps like office, music, dvd
[09:37] <_oP> if i try to run games like quake and wolfenstein et with xmms playing i get device bussy under hoary i could use artsdsp -m to avoide this problem now i get Received signal 11, exiting...
[09:37] <mr3vil> nothing really special
[09:37] <jhenn> How can I share out my internet connection through ethernet because this computer doesn't use ethernet it uses wireless
[09:37] <korhalf> modeline in xorg.conf?
[09:37] <karlan_> navarone, but is the driver installed properly now?
[09:38] <trappist> mr3vil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <mr3vil> a little php-programming
[09:38] <korhalf> mr3vil, stick with Gnome man, it has all the same stuff, but less bloated in my opinion
[09:38] <navarone> karlan more than likely always was
[09:38] <Dublines> Problem with Kubuntu picking up usb creative muvo and netopia broadband
[09:38] <cdubya> jenda, the laser color printer's I've seen print continuous tone, so I tend to like them better.....
[09:38] <mr3vil> what is faster!? gnome / kde?
[09:38] <trappist> korhalf: some people prefer kde.
[09:38] <dallows> Where can I find grub.conf ?
[09:38] <jenda> cdubya: good enough thanks
[09:38] <mr3vil> i don't really know the difference
[09:38] <korhalf> yeh my RCA Lyra is picked up as a mass storage usb device in windows, i wonder what itd be like in linux
[09:38] <korhalf> trappist, perhaps,
[09:38] <karlan_> navarone, okay, so it just was the settings for the screen?
[09:39] <korhalf> mr3vil, in that case use gnome
[09:39] <karlan_> i didnt se any nvidialogo at restart thou
[09:39] <navarone> korhalf...I find trying to use the dpkg reconfigure xserver thingy can mess up mouse and kb when trying to fix resolution isssue...so I just edit the monitor section manually
[09:39] <dallows> Where can I find grub.conf ? plz.. know someone ?
[09:39] <mr3vil> korhalf  is it easier?
[09:39] <cdubya> jenda, np
[09:39] <korhalf> navarone, yeah thats whati mean, you can edit the modeline in xorg.conf no?
[09:39] <karlan_> well, now thats not a problem anymore, the biggest problem was the refreshrate :)
[09:39] <mr3vil> or why are you recommending gnome!?
[09:39] <korhalf> mr3vil, in my opinion, it's not only easier, but more supported, and is easier, but i said that already
[09:39] <korhalf> i actually recommend fluxbox
[09:40] <korhalf> but considering you're new, just go with gnome
[09:40] <navarone> korhalf...yeah  simple 29-??? and 47-??? for vertical and horiz limits
[09:40] <mr3vil> ok ok
[09:40] <trappist> dallows: you probably don't have one.  why do you want it?
[09:40] <korhalf> navarone, i keep my monitor manuals :P
[09:40] <_oP> can someone help me please
[09:40] <mr3vil> thanks for the hinds ... i'll get gnomed then! ;)
[09:40] <korhalf> navarone, i forget the name of the utility, but it can find the refresh rates for vertical and horiz automatically
[09:40] <_jason> _oP, we can try if you ask a question
[09:40] <korhalf> it actually outputs a modeline for you, to just copy and paste in
[09:40] <navarone> korhalf...I just threw mine out after having them for four years and then needed to set resolution...lol
[09:41] <korhalf> navarone, yeah lol, i found my monitor that im using in the trash
[09:41] <karlan_> navarone, where do i edit the grub boot list? want to remove the 386 etc.
[09:41] <korhalf> navarone, it's garbage, literally
[09:41] <karlan_> have almost 10 lines now :)
[09:41] <_oP> @_jason cant use artsdsp -m option anymore since i installed breezy
[09:41] <korhalf> karlan_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:41] <karlan_> thx
[09:41] <navarone> korhalf...it is some kind or modprobe you use to find monitor limits capabilities
[09:41] <_oP> sounds run fine but i need to run xmms and the game at same time
[09:41] <dallows> trappist: cause I need to edit it ;-)
[09:41] <_jason> _oP, no idea, I don't use arts
[09:41] <korhalf> _oP, this is probably because the game uses OSS
[09:42] <korhalf> i have the same problem with wolf ET
[09:42] <navarone> karlan...you can use synpatic to remove old kernels and update grub as well
[09:42] <korhalf> i can either have my music, and have no sound in game, or i can have no music and sound in game
[09:42] <trappist> dallows: are you sure you're not looking for menu.lst?
[09:42] <_oP> strange, as i still was using hoary it all worked with arts
[09:42] <_oP> ...
[09:42] <occy> Does anyone think doing rmmod psmouse would cause any instability problems?
[09:42] <Dublines> Trappist, I did a clean install onto a ibm Thinkpad 600e. No floppy drive. Need to return to windows 98, for the next couple of weeks, any suggestions re: uninstall or running windows with linux
[09:43] <navarone> occy, are you using a psmouse?
[09:43] <korhalf> navarone, i was about to ask that lol
[09:43] <occy> navarone, well, I think my touchpad does
[09:43] <_oP> @_jason what sound server do u use?
[09:43] <korhalf> _oP, i dont know then
[09:43] <occy> I keep hitting it and want to turn off my touchpad
[09:43] <_jason> _oP, alsa
[09:43] <korhalf> _oP, use alsa
[09:43] <benplaut> [dapper]  do you think i'll break my system beyond hope of repair if i use Xorg packages from debian experimental?
[09:43] <navarone> occy, if you are using a psmouse you should let it load
[09:43] <occy> heh
[09:44] <_oP> can u play, like xmms and run like vlc with sound at the same time..?
[09:44] <occy> HP_Owner4444, heh
[09:44] <korhalf> _oP, you can do anything :)
[09:44] <navarone> occy, sorry...not posh enuff for a laptop me
[09:44] <trappist> Dublines: installing windows 98 onto a machine with linux already on it is going to be very, very tricky.  you'll need to destroy the linux partition(s) first.
[09:44] <korhalf> _oP, thats how good ALSA is
[09:44] <occy> navarone, np
[09:44] <_oP> hmm not working here
[09:44] <_oP> :(
[09:44] <h4x> im new to linux, and im having trouble with updating my firefox. Its currently version 1.0.57. I downloaded the upaded to 1.5 .tar.gz what now?
[09:44] <occy> HP_Owner4444, I've got a dv4150us laptop myself :)
[09:44] <korhalf> h4x, don't bother with it.
[09:44] <_oP> i have a onboard soundcard from abit an7
[09:45] <navarone> trappist...he can use gparted to make the fat32 partition for 98...<?>
[09:45] <_oP> maybe it does not support mixing
[09:45] <_oP> ?
[09:45] <korhalf> i think it was in the motd at one point to not ask how to isntall the new firefox
[09:45] <benplaut> i'm going to take that silence as a yes, it'll hose it, and this guy is nuts to even consider it :P
[09:45] <nicholaspaul> h4x 0 yes bother! There are instructions on the site - lemme see if i can find them again
[09:45] <h4x> thank you. for your help
[09:45] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, what's the point? theres nothing great about the new one
[09:45] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, i think it just uses more resources
[09:45] <cmatheson_> navarone: yes, you could use parted
[09:45] <cdubya> does anyone here know about enabling midi playback on ubuntu?
[09:45] <korhalf> use Opera for god sakes, or dillo
[09:46] <Jemt> Greetings. Why is MatrixView no longer included in XScreenSaver ?
[09:46] <korhalf> cdubya, i jus tuse windows + reason
[09:46] <navarone> dillo...that one always makes me laff
[09:46] <Jemt> And how can I install it ?
[09:46] <korhalf> cdubya, i have a midi - usb converter, and i think its picked up but
[09:46] <h4x> one thing that i didnt like about firefox is the lack of plugins already installed
[09:46] <korhalf> navarone, dillo, dildo
[09:46] <navarone> lol
[09:46] <h4x> dillo?
[09:46] <nicholaspaul> korhalf - h4x wants to install it. You just going to deny access?!!!
[09:46] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, of course
[09:46] <navarone> korhalf...I had a ton of "mount" jokes at the ready
[09:46] <korhalf> if it's not in the repository, theres a good reason for it.
[09:46] <nicholaspaul> - and thats your opinion anyhow.
[09:46] <teroedni> hmm i find  ff1.5 to bee good
[09:46] <_oP> i looked up ubuntu forums also posted my problems but noone can help me, is this a bug?
[09:46] <h4x> i agree with nicholaspaul, but i do have an open mind to browser suggestions
[09:46] <korhalf> navarone, make love
[09:47] <Dublines> Trappist, is there a way to remove ubuntu and then install from Window 98 cd?
[09:47] <DewDude> well
[09:47] <DewDude> this is lovely
[09:47] <korhalf> h4x, dude honestly, opera is 10x faster
[09:47] <cmatheson_> Dublines: just use fdisk to delete your linux partitions
[09:47] <topyli> h4x: dillo is a very small and light browser that is strictly for html. no plugins, no java, no nothing
[09:47] <cdubya> korhalf, I just want to be able to play midis.....
[09:47] <navarone> Dublines...do you not want to keep ubuntu?
[09:47] <korhalf> Dublines, i recommend the sudo rm -rf / method
[09:47] <dallows> trappist: yea.. ure right.. thx ;-)
[09:47] <korhalf> cdubya, yeh i dont know
[09:47] <nicholaspaul> h4x. use whatever browser you want!!!!
[09:47] <nicholaspaul> h4x - http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.html#install
[09:48] <cdubya> kmid keeps telling me it can't initialize the sequencer
[09:48] <nicholaspaul> jeez....
[09:48] <h4x> it formats the html right? or is it raw output. topyli
[09:48] <korhalf> cdubya, that has nothing to do with midi, it has to do with the sequencer in the program
[09:48] <james_> how do I register with freenode for a nick?
[09:48] <trappist> Dublines: you'll need to boot to a linux livecd or rescue cd to destroy the ubuntu filesystems.  then you should be able to install windows.
[09:48] <Dublines> Thanks for that
[09:48] <korhalf> h4x, if you're concerned about dillo not formatting pages correclty and not supporting java and all that, use Opera
[09:48] <trappist> james_: /msg chanserv register <password>
[09:48] <nicholaspaul> james_, try googling for 'register irc'
[09:48] <navarone> james_,  /msg nickserv register password < ---registers current nick with password you provide
[09:49] <trappist> err yeah nickserv
[09:49] <korhalf> Dublines, destroying linux partitions makes the baby Jesus cry
[09:49] <james_> okay say I want a different nick than what I have now?
[09:49] <h4x> i'll try opera
[09:49] <trappist> james_: /nick newnick
[09:49] <topyli> h4x: it shows html all right, formatted and laid out like any graphical browser. but that's all it does. it's very fast :)
[09:49] <navarone> james_, change nick and then register it
[09:49] <cdubya> korhalf, I know, but I don't know how to fix it because I don't mess with the sound system much since it just works. :)
[09:49] <korhalf>  /msg korhalf register password <-- registers your password with the network and sends you hax for Counter Strike
[09:49] <nicholaspaul> h4x yea opera is pretty cool. i have it only for testing.
[09:50] <james_> okay thank you trappist :)
[09:50] <h4x> can i have some links to opera or dillo
[09:50] <navarone> One of the best features of opera is the note taking
[09:50] <jenda> And what about foto printing? Laser or ink?
[09:50] <occy> http://www.vincel.org/146789.html
[09:50] <occy> hmm
[09:50] <h4x> I'll google them. thanks for the help
[09:50] <_oP> here the situation alsa world fine also oss, but i need a soundserver that works under breezy, because i guess my hardware does not support mixing multiple audio sources,
[09:50] <occy> Why isn't there one?
[09:51] <korhalf> for those of you who were here when i was trying to choose ahostname
[09:51] <korhalf> its final
[09:51] <korhalf> chris@veela$:
[09:51] <_oP> arts will not run with quake or enemy territory anymore
[09:51] <_oP> ??
[09:51] <topyli> h4x: try opera.com and dillo.org. or try to make a better guess :)
[09:51] <korhalf> veela rolls off the tongue easy, and it isnt complex to pronounce
[09:51] <lowman> <--much better
[09:51] <lowman> :)
[09:51] <h4x> :)
[09:51] <jenda> cdubya: any idea about foto printing?
[09:51] <cdubya> jenda, some of the nicer inkjets don't do too bad on good photo paper, but it's the continuous tone that I like.....
[09:51] <korhalf> and is also better than linuxbox
[09:52] <cdubya> jenda, I've got a client that uses a nice wide format Epson that does a fantastic job.....
[09:52] <Dublines> trappist, have the grub> prompt. What is the command to unintall?
[09:52] <jhenn> How can I share out my internet connection through ethernet because this computer doesn't use ethernet it uses wireless
[09:52] <cdubya> jenda, it's a 6-color inkjet if memory serves, and the output is nice.
[09:52] <cdubya> jenda, but I still think the color lasers are sharper with the imaging......
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> jhenn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[09:53] <h4x> topyli, which package do i download. gnu-darin, rpms, netbsd?
[09:53] <_oP> ------- sound initialization -------
[09:53] <_oP> Received signal 11, exiting...
[09:53] <_oP>  ahhhhhhhhhhh
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> Googling will save people a lot of time in IRC..............
[09:53] <robotgeek> _oP: don't paste here
[09:53] <korhalf> robotgeek, it's only two lines, not a big deal
[09:53] <arnducky> nicholaspaul, where's the fun in that?
[09:53] <arnducky> ;-)
[09:53] <topyli> h4x: i haven't seen opera for ages, but i'
[09:53] <korhalf> i think if it's more than 3-4 you should use pastebin
[09:53] <navarone> I google so much I have googly eyes
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> yea, i guess learning sucks.
[09:53] <topyli> d look for debian packages
[09:54] <trappist> Dublines: grub doesn't uninstall.
[09:54] <jhenn> nicholaspaul: how do you get a "root terminal"?
[09:54] <korhalf> topyli, nicholaspaul, and whoever else
[09:54] <korhalf> on operas site, they have support for ubuntu
[09:54] <korhalf> no need for debian packages, even though they're probably the same thing
[09:54] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, thats nice.
[09:54] <robotgeek> korhalf: i tht he wasgoin to paste more :)
[09:54] <nicholaspaul> jhenn, in Gnome its in one of the main menus.
[09:54] <h4x> topyli debian it is...
[09:54] <korhalf> robotgeek, oh
[09:54] <korhalf> h4x, (sigh)
[09:55] <cdubya> gah, anyone have any idea why kmid keeps telling me it can't use /dev/sequencer because it's already in use and how do I fix it?
[09:55] <topyli> h4x: looking at the download page, they seem to have ubuntu packages. how about those?
[09:55] <korhalf> http://opera.com/download/
[09:55] <jhenn> nicholaspaul: i don't see it
[09:55] <korhalf> you can choose Ubuntu from the drop down menu
[09:55] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, i wasnt bashing Opera, you can stop evangelizing the choir! Just that h4x wanted to install FF1.5.
[09:55] <korhalf> topyli, thank you!
[09:55] <nicholaspaul> jhenn, what do you want to do?
[09:55] <navarone> jhenn, if it isn't in application menu right click Applications and Edit Menus to add it
[09:55] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, wtf are you talking about? i was showing him that theres ubuntu packages
[09:55] <nicholaspaul> korhalf. Chill.
[09:56] <ciner> hello , how can i delete password stting in the Wallet ?
[09:56] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, you chill, and stop jumping to conclusions.
[09:56] <Jemt> GRR. Wha's wrrong with the rss-glx package? It is supposed to include the screensaver MatrixView - but is isn't there. How can I install it manually ?
[09:56] <navarone> jhennn...in edit menus...it is in Sytem tools...just check it so it shows up in menu
[09:56] <nicholaspaul> korhalf. was that "I know what you are, what am I ?!"
[09:56] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, man, im dropping it
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> korhalf,  i just disapprove of questioning why people want apps. I'm just trying to help.
[09:57] <ubuntu> Hey guys, I'm booted into the Ubuntu Breezy livecd but am having problems accessing my usb drive. Can someone help?
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> pathetic.
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> Excuse me, can anyone tell me how I can possibly change my accounts privileges? Sometimes I like to open up text files to edit them in GEdit, but unfortunately I can't because I don't have enough permission. I'm just wondering so I don't have to do it through the terminal all the time.
[09:57] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, no you're trolling
[09:57] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, that helps no one.
[09:57] <ubuntu> My drive isn't being recognized it seems (no indication in "dmesg")
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> jhenn,  just type 'sudo' in a regular terminal
[09:57] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, as root you can change the mode of the file
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> korhalf.. i have no bridge...
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> korhalf, I know.. but.. I mean in the GUI
[09:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell SweetestSavage about sudo
[09:57] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, ie. sudo chmod 655 foo.txt
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, uh, i dont use gui, a whole lot
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> That'll change the permissions in the GUI?
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> I know
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> I'm new to Linux
[09:58] <ciner> SweetestSavage > Try   " sudo gedit /myfile "
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, right click on the file, and go to properties
[09:58] <navarone> SweetestSavage, I find using sudo in terminal keeps me out of trouble personally...not root access file broswers open to foreget about...<s>
[09:58] <nicholaspaul> hi SweetestSavage
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> Hello
[09:58] <ubuntu> misfit_toy, yo
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, if you want to use linux efficiently, learn the terminal, thats what 80 percent of linux is about
[09:58] <khermans> is there some sort of automation tool for clicking windows and tnetring data for Linux?
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> navarone, it's a possible security risk to give myself root privileges in GUI?
[09:58] <jenda> cdubya: OK, thx... my bro wanted to know - and I wanted to show him how WE obtain info :)
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, the windows in you wants the GUI, you gotta just forget it
[09:58] <JFlash> how do i get to my .bmpx folder using the file browser?
[09:58] <JFlash> i can only get there using the terminal
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> Haha, you're right korhalf.
[09:59] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, ooo yes, definitely use sudo. I got into BIG trouble logging in as root.
[09:59] <ubuntu> Anyone?
[09:59] <khermans> Swedish_Chef, of course!
[09:59] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, probably not, but you can accidently delete important things and not even know it
[09:59] <_jason> JFlash, ctrl-H
[09:59] <navarone> SweetestSavage, I imagine it could be if you leave session opena nd then go doing things will-nilly
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> Okay, well, thanks =)
[09:59] <nicholaspaul> exactly as korhalf said.
[09:59] <khermans> navarone, running complex code as root is never a good idea
[09:59] <VooDoo> JFlaash,: show hidden files CTRL-H
[09:59] <dustin_> I am new to linux and need some help installing the java plugin for firefox if anyone can help it would be appreciated
[09:59] <korhalf> that is, if you forget which file browser is the root one.
[09:59] <_oP> okay guess noone can help me, but i will not give up! I will not be tempted to fall down on m*s level and buy a new soundcard
[09:59] <cdubya> jenda, np. Good luck!
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> I'm learning the terminal, just it's a little bit tough since i completely uninstalled windows and I'm only using Linux now. But, I know I'll learn to love it more than the GUI.
[09:59] <navarone> khermans, what complex code?
[09:59] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, good
[10:00] <khermans> dustin_, follow the wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <_jason> JFlash, files that begin with a '.' are hidden.  ctrl-H will tell nautilus to show hidden files.
[10:00] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, thats the best way to learn :) just open up the shell and mess around, move files around, pipe stuff to Grep, learn to use it efficiently
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> Oh yeah, is there any keyboard shortcut to open up the terminal?
[10:00] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try googling for an index of Linux commands. Open a terminal and cruise around. Just be careful not to delete anything, but you know, thats common sense;)
[10:00] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, save the mouse some wear and tear, plus it's faster thru the terminal with tab completion, at least to me
[10:00] <DewDude> has anyone gotten monkeys audio to work on gstreamer OR beep media player?
[10:00] <_jason> SweetestSavage, yeah mess around, just don't mess around with sudo :)
[10:00] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, depending on your gdm you can set your own up .
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> Okay. Thanks guys =)
[10:01] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try right clicking in the panel and adding to it
[10:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell SweetestSavage about cli
[10:01] <nicholaspaul> am i helping SweetestSavage ?
[10:01] <korhalf> !cli
[10:01] <ubotu> I heard cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:01] <JaZyLNX> i need help getting the permissions set on a drive i have /dev/sda1 mounted fine but root owns it when i do a chmod 777 user or chown user (user= i want to be owner)  it does nothing how can i write on this drive and take ownership thanks
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> Aye, you are. Some of this stuff is really hard to figure out on your own
[10:01] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, /etc/fstab
[10:01] <navarone> SweetestSavage, if you are using p2p client try searching for "linux*.pdf" and you should find some good references
[10:01] <JaZyLNX> /dev/sda1       /media/Drive2     auto    rw,noauto  0       0
[10:01] <JaZyLNX> what is in fstab
[10:01] <navarone> I got a good Linuc command reference that way
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> Okay, well that's good then =) Linux makes sense more and more everyday, haha.
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, here let me show you what my line is, for my windows drive
[10:02] <navarone> Linux*
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, yup, i had to figure out it all on my own. Just switching directories etc. is easy enough.
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> and if it doesnt let you do something in the terminal , DONT DO IT!! :-)
[10:02] <Xamusk> I'm having a problem trying to get xdmcp working: I enable xdmcp in the server's gdm.conf, but when I run X -query <ip> :1 it gives me the gray screen with X cursor (and no gdm), but when I run X -indirect <ip> :1 it gives me a list of servers available and when I click the server, it runs ok, with gdm
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, ah i forgot, thats my other computer, and im lazy
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, for options add user to the list
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> - but then i guess I'm trolling.
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> nicholaspaul, I usually do learn on my own, but Linux really takes the cake. I've been a DOS/Windows user for all my time, and trying to figure out commands and stuff without much reference was too difficult for me
[10:02] <korhalf> rw,user,noauto
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> Cool SweetestSavage
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, put auto if you want it to mount every time you start
[10:03] <navarone> Sweetest...the "man" command in terminal can show you usage for most commands as well
[10:03] <ubuntu> can anyone read this?
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> but thats how i got to fig all this out. Just one thing at a time SweetestSavage
[10:03] <lowman> I remember when I first started in linux I would get the standard reply when I asked for help and that was ...RTFM :P```
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> ubuntu no. I cant read a thing
[10:03] <JFlash> _jason,  i have show hidden files checked
[10:03] <ubuntu> nicholaspaul, good
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> :D
[10:03] <JFlash> _jason, but i dont know where to start
[10:03] <korhalf> navarone, i hate "man", when i was a nub, the pages were complex, and hard to understand
[10:03] <korhalf> use google if you're stuck
[10:03] <ubuntu> so can anyone help me with the usb drive issue?
[10:03] <SweetestSavage> Yep =) Linux is a really exciting OS, plus with 64-bit possibilities I can run server software and heavy-memory programs with ease compared to windows
[10:03] <_jason> JFlash, how do you get to it in a terminal?
[10:03] <JFlash> _jason,  in the terminal i just do ./bmp
[10:03] <h4x> *scratches dillo_0.8.5-4_i386.deb off the list**
[10:03] <JFlash> .bmpx
[10:03] <SweetestSavage> Oh, what's the command to return your LAN IP address?
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, and connectivity is a joy :D
[10:04] <navarone> korhalf...I have Linux desktop reference from my mandrake days
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, ifconfig
[10:04] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks
[10:04] <_jason> JFlash, then it should be in your home directory
[10:04] <lowman> wookie ifconfig
[10:04] <korhalf> navarone, mandrake? whew, i was fortunate to stay away from that distro
[10:04] <JaZyLNX> okay added user
[10:04] <Jemt> How can I make firefox, thunderbird and Eterm take arguments under Preferred Applications? When I click a link, Firefox 1.5 starts but dosn't display the website. The same is the case with Eterm. When I click a Documentation button which is supposed to start my terminal with the documentation, nothing happens
[10:04] <JaZyLNX> and still same shit
[10:04] <JaZyLNX> thing* sorry
[10:04] <navarone> korhalf...wasn't bad...but kde was not friendly with my hardware and knowledge at the time
[10:04] <korhalf> navarone, i think ive ran: redhat, Damn Small Linux, Debian, Gentoo and CentOS in all my time using linux
[10:04] <korhalf> navarone, and Gobo Linux, that was fun
[10:05] <_oP> if i try lsof /dev/dsp
[10:05] <_oP>  i get a error
[10:05] <lowman> i once upon a time used mandrake..kde hell..yack!
[10:05] <navarone> korhalf...Caldera and Mandrake (3 versions)
[10:05] <korhalf> navarone, oh i see, i just heard bad things about it, like hardware detection problems and extreme buginess
[10:05] <_oP> WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[10:05] <_oP>       Output information may be incomplete.
[10:05] <sonare> are there any tools for repartitioning in ubuntu? I want to install win98 on a smaller partition you see
[10:05] <JFlash> _jason, it worked. thank you so much!!
[10:05] <h4x> i think the gnu-darwin project link is down. For my dillo download. If im dl'ing the right package
[10:05] <_jason> JFlash, np
[10:05] <navarone> sonare...gpartted...but back up data first...and defrag windows
[10:05] <lucasvo> who is managing ubotu?
[10:05] <korhalf> ppl still run win98?
[10:06] <cmatheson_> navarone: sonare : don't bother defragging it's not necessary w/ gparted
[10:06] <korhalf> !ubotu
[10:06] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:06] <h4x> cuase im still lost. I see NO ubuntu package. just debian, darwin, RPMS, slackware,betbsd
[10:06] <navarone> cmatheson...better safe than sorry
[10:06] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/ and let me know if this helps
[10:06] <sonare> navaron: will i need to run fixGrub (or whatever) after a win98 install?
[10:06] <cmatheson_> navarone: it's not going to help you it's just going to waste time
[10:06] <dooglus> _oP: use "sudo lsof /dev/dsp"
[10:06] <vr^> can archive manager extract ISO files?
[10:06] <_oP> @dooglus yes, then i get no output
[10:07] <SweetestSavage> Ooh, wow, a lot of commands. Yes, that helps, thanks very much =)
[10:07] <dooglus> _oP: that means no process is using /dev/dsp then
[10:07] <cmatheson_> vr^: if not just do 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 some.iso /mnt'
[10:07] <lucasvo> korhalf: I need to talk to the owner, there isn't any nick on the wiki page
[10:07] <navarone> sonare...I would make a linux boot disk to get grub back installed in mbr afterwards if you need
[10:07] <dooglus> _oP: try it again while playing some music
[10:07] <_oP> why is there no sound in quake 3 then?
[10:07] <korhalf> lucasvo, what?
[10:07] <_oP> i am
[10:07] <_oP> playing music
[10:07] <vr^> cmatheson_: thanks
[10:07] <_oP> with arts
[10:07] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, you're welcome. I'm glad to be of help!!!!!!!
[10:07] <korhalf> lucasvo, the guy who wrote the bot? maybe Seveas
[10:07] <_oP> xmms and arts output plugin
[10:07] <nicholaspaul> cos i wouldnt want to be trolling and not help anyone..
[10:08] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, dont start.
[10:08] <nicholaspaul> :-)
[10:08] <nicholaspaul> dont jump to conclusions. :-)
[10:08] <Agedec> Hey, how do i play .wmv movies?
[10:08] <nicholaspaul> Agedec try Xine.
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> =)
[10:08] <cmatheson_> Agedec: i like to use mplayer
[10:09] <concept10> how do I complety uninstall KDE or the kubuntu-desktop?  kcontrol is screwing with my gnome themes
[10:09] <korhalf> mplayer plays anything
[10:09] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: do you know about "man -k"?  if you "man -k network" it will show you a list of commands related to networking
[10:09] <Agedec> ok
[10:09] <Agedec> thanks
[10:09] <nicholaspaul> oh wait...I used Xine for AVI i'm not sure if it plays wmv
[10:09] <korhalf> concept10, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> Ah, yes I do know about the manual command =)
[10:09] <cmatheson_> concept10: use the program you installed kubuntu-desktop to remove (purge) it
[10:09] <hoooyt> register 1234569 asdsa@hotmail.com
[10:09] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, it does if you have the w32 codecs in the right path
[10:09] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, you'll likely need the right codecs
[10:09] <Agedec> codecs?
[10:09] <nicholaspaul> exactly, korhalf
[10:10] <navarone> Okay I am off for a bit...cya alll
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, indeed.
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, go to mplayerhq.com
[10:10] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, the 'drivers' for playing difft video types.
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, get the essential package at least, and then follow the directions on where to extract
[10:10] <h4x> i'll check back here later, when i can get some help
[10:10] <h4x> bye
[10:10] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, Do you have a copy of Windows?
[10:10] <Agedec> no i dont
[10:10] <h4x> i'll stick with my firefox 88bc version
[10:10] <Agedec> my dad does tho
[10:10] <Agedec> does that count :D
[10:10] <Agedec> lol
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, you can always wine windows media player
[10:10] <concept10> cmatheson_, that doesnt work - do you mean purge it?  that only uninstalls the meta-package (kubuntu-desktop) not the dependencies
[10:11] <nicholaspaul> Agedec - thats prob good enough yea. Just for the license agreement that allows you to use w32codecs.
[10:11] <cmatheson_> concept10: did you use aptitude?
[10:11] <nicholaspaul> - somethign like that.
[10:11] <korhalf> Agedec, but wmv files play better on mplayer then they do on native wmplayer on windows
[10:11] <_oP> ------- sound initialization -------  Received signal 11, exiting...
[10:11] <concept10> korhalf, will that screw with opera?
[10:11] <_oP> ahhhh
[10:11] <Hal9000> hi!
[10:11] <lowman> SweetestSavage: you can also hit any letter on the keyboard then press tab and it will show you every command that starts with that letter. Then, use ...$> whatis <command-name> to find out what it is. :)
[10:11] <korhalf> concept10, im not sure, i just know you get rid of all the kde crap that uses the qt libs..
[10:11] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000, morning/evening
[10:11] <concept10> cmatheson_, lemme try with aptitude
[10:11] <Hal9000> does the 2.6.15 kernel source package already include the .config file used to compile the packaged images?
[10:11] <korhalf> concept10, i dont think it will, you can grep the dependancy list and see if opera will be removed by accident
[10:12] <_oP> someone know how i start or if quake 3 will start with jack sound server?
[10:12] <Hal9000> in other words, i want to use the 2.6.15 kernel in breezy, whats the best way to do this :)
[10:12] <cmatheson_> concept10: it probably won't work unless you installed w/ aptitude
[10:12] <concept10> korhalf, im not sure, but I think opera depends on that
[10:12] <Agedec> what one do i download, and can somone walk me through building it --never done it before
[10:12] <Hal9000> the image package complains about dependencies, i could install the source package though
[10:12] <wookie_boy> anyone got a sec for a complete non groker?  I can't get my screen res above 800x 600 someone told me to edit my xorg.conf file from ati to something.... any ideas?
[10:12] <Madeye> guys, I'm using my laptop at home lan and wlan, and office lan and wlan, and cafes wlan, I need a better network manager to switch easily? DNS stuck with gnome network manager, and the HEX for wlan stuck so I have to write down DNS for all places same for HEX's
[10:12] <korhalf> chris@plexis:~$ whatis that
[10:12] <korhalf> that: nothing appropriate.
[10:12] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: no, but if you install the binary then you can copy it from /boot/config-2.....
[10:13] <_jason> Agedec, just get the w32codecs
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks lowman
[10:13] <_jason> ubotu, tell Agedec about w32codecs
[10:13] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick
[10:13] <lowman> yw :)
[10:13] <korhalf> hey h4x...0r
[10:13] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, hit SPACE to select extra resolutions
[10:14] <wookie_boy> k Ill try it
[10:14] <h4x> hey korhalf
[10:14] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, cool.
[10:14] <Jemt> I need a program that can record what is happening on my screen. Actually I want it to record a running screensaver. Is that possible?
[10:14] <concept10> korhalf, ah yes, that removes alot, thanx
[10:14] <korhalf> concept10, no problem
[10:15] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: how can i install the binary then? without all those complaints for broken dependencies?
[10:15] <korhalf> YES after 4 hours of Co op here
[10:15] <korhalf> i cant wait to get home
[10:15] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: what broken dependencies?
[10:15] <nicholaspaul> Jemt, I've looked into that. I would try googling - its too complex a question for IRC. From what i found out its more than just apt-get'ing an app!
[10:15] <korhalf> i installed a bug tracking CRM program called vTiger and it took so damn long to configure Mysql apache and PHP together
[10:15] <concept10> Even though I have a decent setup, I want to optimize my system.  Get rid of this cruft and daemons I dont need
[10:15] <Jemt> nicholaspaul: Ok. Thanks
[10:15] <korhalf> sugarcrm is trash, doesnt even have reporting tools
[10:16] <wookie_boy> nicholadpaul: dpl-reconfigure: command not found
[10:16] <nicholaspaul> Jemt,  I know i say 'GOOGLE" alot, but honestly its youre best bet.
[10:16] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, thats dpkg, not dpl
[10:16] <korhalf> concept10, yeh just check the services that start up by default on boot, System>administration>services
[10:16] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: i have breezy, but want the 2.6.15 kernel from badger as it supports my tv card...
[10:16] <Hal9000> it doesnt work on 2.6.12 unfortuantelly :(
[10:16] <korhalf> concept10, uncheck the ones you don't need, as long as you know what they do
[10:16] <wookie_boy> gotcha...
[10:16] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: have you tried installing the package? does it depend on stuff you don't have?
[10:16] <korhalf> h4ck3r, and h4x
[10:17] <_oP> why?` ahh haha damn
[10:17] <h4x> good day
[10:17] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: even if you can't install it you should be able to download it, extract it, and then pull the config-????? file out of it
[10:17] <h4ck3r> Hey guys, I have a problem with ubuntu I install gstreamer but when I try and log back in it gets stuck at just a brown screen (I install it so I can have mp3 support)
[10:18] <korhalf> how does gstreamer break X?
[10:18] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: ok, how do i extract it?
[10:18] <h4ck3r> it doesn't break
[10:18] <_jason> h4ck3r, only after installing gstreamer? that's all you did and it worked before?
[10:18] <h4ck3r> it
[10:18] <korhalf> zion_, zion i, true and livin
[10:18] <nicholaspaul> raphink - I'm the last one to tell someone which app to use, but I've had better luck with XChat than with Konversation
[10:18] <h4ck3r> gstreamer just is making it so that I can't log in
[10:18] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: dpkg -x? i'm not completely sure... check out man dpkg
[10:18] <h4ck3r> x is working fine
[10:19] <h4ck3r> I think
[10:19] <korhalf> h4ck3r, how do you know if you don't even have a display?
[10:19] <korhalf> h4ck3r, can you press ctrl + alt + f2 to get to a terminal at least
[10:19] <korhalf> h4ck3r, check if gdm is running
[10:19] <raphink> nicholaspaul: are you sure you're talking to me?
[10:19] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000: heres a risky proposition.. have you considered upgrading to Dapper? (and yes I know how wobbly it is>
[10:20] <nicholaspaul> raphink - didnt you just logout because Konversation quit?
[10:20] <mcphail> Jemt: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[10:20] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: unless you're developing dapper i wouldn't recommend upgrading at this point
[10:20] <corresponder> ole
[10:20] <h4ck3r> I can get to the login screen fine it fails after I type in my username and password (it fails to login it just changes to a brown screen like the one just before the little window pops up with the icons telling you what is starting up
[10:20] <korhalf> you guys cant wait till april or something?
[10:20] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000, I'm running Dapper on PPC and it seems to be ok, altho i'm not using it everyday.
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, not for PPC wifi, no.
[10:21] <korhalf> h4ck3r, i see.
[10:21] <_oP> just tried to start quake 3 with artsdsp -m with out xmms running same error
[10:21] <raphink> nicholaspaul: so what?
[10:21] <cmatheson_> h4ck3r: check you ~/.xsession-errors (and change your nick name it's a pain to type mwahaha)
[10:21] <Hal9000> nicholaspaul: never, breezy works fine i dont wanne mess too much :)
[10:21] <korhalf> yeh it is
[10:21] <h4ck3r> oh ok
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> raphink - I'm just recommending XChat over Konversation, thats all. No worries :-)
[10:21] <korhalf> i have to stretch over to the 4
[10:21] <raphink> if you're on gnome sure nicholaspaul
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000. Oh ok.
[10:21] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, im recommending irssi over all, even though im using xchat right now :(
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> raphink I'm on Fluxbox.
[10:21] <h4ck3r> how do I change it
[10:22] <raphink> nicholaspaul: good for you, I'm on KDE
[10:22] <korhalf> h4ck3r, you type /nick newname
[10:22] <h4ck3r> thanx
[10:22] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, Yea i've heard people recommend irssi.  I couldnt get on with it tho. Horses for courses.
[10:22] <Hal9000> mv config-2.6.15-8-amd64-k8 /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/.config
[10:22] <Hal9000> i hope this will do :D
[10:22] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: yes
[10:22] <xptek> *cough* BitchX *cough*
[10:22] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, well i used to run a 300 mhz 64 mb ram comp, so i got used to running all these term apps
[10:22] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, i didnt even use X for a while
[10:22] <argoth> ok
[10:22] <cupOcocoa> A A A A A A A A A A A A A
[10:22] <mh166> hi @ all
[10:22] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: then do make old-config, and then run the make-kpkg stuff
[10:23] <mh166> have a problem:
[10:23] <nicholaspaul> raphink. Thats nice. I use KDE too.
[10:23] <argoth> has anyone else had this problem I have had it on 2 computers that did exactly the same thing
[10:23] <raphink> nicholaspaul: when there's an Xchat based on Qt I'll use it
[10:23] <raphink> maybe
[10:23] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, when desktops are cheaper than hardware that makes a lot of sense :)
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know of a good FTP client for GNOME?
[10:23] <raphink> but I like konversation
[10:23] <raphink> I've used xchat for years
[10:23] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: time make-kpkg kernel_image, correct?
[10:23] <raphink> but I prefer konversation
[10:23] <raphink> that's it
[10:23] <nicholaspaul> raphink. Alrighty. yea, i like konversation too.
[10:23] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, gftp
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thank you =)
[10:23] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, just an ftp frontend.
[10:23] <Eraamion> [22:23]  <SweetestSavage> Anyone know of a good FTP client for GNOME?
[10:23] <Eraamion> Filezilla?
[10:24] <SweetestSavage> korhalf, how do you mean?
[10:24] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: i've never seen the time thing in front but sure... you'll probably actually need something like 'fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image' (optionally adding a --revision parm)
[10:24] <SweetestSavage> I just need a program to connect to an FTP server and make transfers via the GUI
[10:24] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, by default, you should have an ftp program at the terminal
[10:24] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, just type ftp host
[10:24] <SweetestSavage> Ah, well, I'll use the termy then
[10:24] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, where host is the host you're ftping too, of course, its all at the terminal and gets annoying, so just use GFTP
[10:24] <_oP> why does quake 3 have problems with arts since i upgraded to breezy?
[10:24] <nicholaspaul> raphink, Thats cool. I'm not married to any OS or app, i'll use whatever works.  Personally.
[10:25] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, in this case gftp > ftp in my opinion, just faster for me at least
[10:25] <selinium> Can anyone help with my sound problems, please.
[10:25] <SweetestSavage> Ah, alright
[10:25] <raphink> nicholaspaul: sure
[10:25] <korhalf> i'm married to linux
[10:25] <nicholaspaul> :)
[10:25] <korhalf> and linux is an app
[10:25] <mcphail> I use DenyHosts to monitor and block access to SSH. Is there a reasonable equivalent for http?
[10:25] <lowman> nsftp is cool :D
[10:25] <lowman> for cli freaks
[10:25] <korhalf> mcphail, wow,i never thought of that either.
[10:25] <korhalf> mcphail, you can deny people from brazil
[10:25] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, give me a pencil anyday. I've never had a piece of paper crash on me and stop me from working :)
[10:25] <cmatheson_> !tell selinium about anyone
[10:25] <Darkhack> quick question.  Is their anyway I can use Dapper (flight2) CD as a bootloader?  I've installed it to the HD but don't want to install grub.  Anyway I can have the installed version boot when I use the CD?
[10:26] <cupOcocoa> is 5.10 dapper drake?
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> cupOcocoa, yes
[10:26] <korhalf> no
[10:26] <korhalf> 5.10 is breezy
[10:26] <Darkhack> no 6.04
[10:26] <cmatheson_> mcphail: you can deny hosts based on ip address etc. in your apache.conf
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> oops youre right!
[10:26] <DewDude> 5.10 is breezy
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> 6.04 Dapper, 5.10 Breezy.
[10:26] <korhalf> cmatheson_, are you serious?
[10:26] <korhalf> i wanna try that
[10:26] <cmatheson_> korhalf: yeah it's pretty sweet
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> <-- idiot!
[10:26] <selinium> cmatheson_, :) I have two sound cards i have got sound but no microphone. any help gratefully received!
[10:26] <mhr> hey guys, short question to not drown in the spam: my speaker beeps on every tab completion i do in the shell, it annoys me, how do i turn it off?
[10:26] <selinium> I have two sound cards i have got sound but no microphone. any help gratefully received!
[10:27] <korhalf> cmatheson_, where exactly? it's a long ass file, what pattern should i search for?
[10:27] <DewDude> does anyone have any idea how i can get monkeys audio to workwith the gstreamer engine
[10:27] <mcphail> cmatheson_: yes, but is there a daemon which will monitor and automatically block these? DenyHosts is simple.
[10:27] <lowman> <--brilliant in his own mind :P
[10:27] <The_Ball> a friend of mine installed ubuntu, but he is unable to sudo or any other admin task and says he wasn't asked for a admin password during setup. what's the go with this??
[10:27] <cmatheson_> selinium: maybe it's muted? run alsamixer and check
[10:27] <ompaul> lowman, would that be smarted than your average bear?
[10:27] <Agedec> Ok, when i type sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[10:27] <Agedec> , i get E: Couldn't find package mplayer-k6
[10:27] <Agedec> ...what am i missing?
[10:27] <korhalf> !ubotu tell The_Ball about sudo
[10:27] <cmatheson_> korhalf: it's the 'Deny' thing... check out the good documentation at apache.org... you can do a lot w/ it
[10:27] <Darkhack> Is their anyway I can use the Flight2 CD as a bootloader?  I tried passing "root=/dev/hda4" as a parameter but it didnt work out.
[10:27] <cmatheson_> mcphail: i don't know anything automatic
[10:28] <korhalf> cmatheson_, can you edit the page they see when denied?
[10:28] <korhalf> cmatheson_, because thats even better
[10:28] <selinium> cmatheson_, Hmmm alsamixer is showing the other card, but it is not the one being used...
[10:28] <lowman> ompaul: nah! smart like douglas fir...but I break it I fix it :P
[10:28] <ompaul> lowman, ahh a legend in your own lunchtime
[10:28] <cmatheson_> selinium: you can specify which card... read the alsamixer manpage real quick i forgot what the parameter is
[10:28] <mez__> mhr: edit /etc/inputrc, and uncomment 'set bell-style none'
[10:28] <selinium> cmatheson_, ok Cheers
[10:28] <_oP> now i get /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[10:28] <lowman> ompaul: exacry ;)
[10:29] <_oP> if i switch xmms to alsa
[10:29] <Agedec> anyone know?
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, try Synaptic.
[10:29] <lowman> ompaul: is the only way I can leave my mark in this world ...errr *bzzz* :P
[10:29] <MonsieurBon> hello
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, could be a typo (thats my common sin)
[10:29] <Agedec> its not on synaptic...checked, thats why i tried by cmd line
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> oh ok.
[10:29] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know how to remove the ati grafic driver?
[10:29] <trappist> mcphail: I use mod_rewrite to redirect those to a download of windows media player 9 from a microsoft server in brazil
[10:30] <_jason> !info mplayer-k6
[10:30] <ubotu> mplayer-k6: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3683 kB, Installed size: 8072 kB
[10:30] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, sorry, i dont have exp. using that player.
[10:30] <_jason> Agedec, do you have multiverse enabled?
[10:30] <nicholaspaul> oh thank you ubotu!!!!
[10:30] <mcphail> trappist: :)
[10:30] <cmatheson_> Agedec: you're going to need special sources installed for mplayer iirc
[10:30] <Agedec> i do not know anything about "Multiverse"
[10:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Agedec about repos
[10:32] <tyler> is there an easy tutorial for mounting a windows driver?
[10:32] <tyler> err windows partition
[10:32] <selinium> how can I detirmine what has got hold of alsa?
[10:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler about mountwindows
[10:32] <selinium> s/ditirmine/determine
[10:32] <korhalf> selinium, ps ax | grep -i "dsp" ?
[10:33] <tyler> _jason, thanks
[10:33] <khanreaper> Are there any particular reasons that "sudo su" does not actually change the user? Sudo prompts for the password, accepts it, but it does not apparently start su. Likewise, sudo -s does not start a shell. This is on a freshly-installed copy of Ubuntu.
[10:33] <irvin> ubotu, you alive?
[10:33] <ubotu> irvin: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:33] <korhalf> khanreaper, sudo -i starts the shell as root
[10:33] <_jason> khanreaper, sudo -i
[10:34] <Darkhack> Anyone here know how to use an ubuntu CD as a bootloader?
[10:34] <mcphail> korhalf: selinium: sudo fuser /dev/dsp?
[10:34] <khanreaper> It still does not actually change the user. /etc/sudoers is completely vanilla.
[10:34] <selinium> korhalf, it didn't :(
[10:34] <jerome__> Darkhack, you cant as the install/live ce is designed to boot the system burned on the disc
[10:35] <jerome__> Darkhack, but you may try to build your own bootcd
[10:35] <MonsieurBon> Can anyone help me? I installed the ATI graphic driver as explained on their homepage using the installer. However, the driver does not seam to work, in fact, it's working less then without that driver. How do I get rid of that driver???
[10:35] <irvin> khanreaper, did you add the user after installing ubuntu?
[10:35] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: why didn't you use the ubuntu package?
[10:36] <khanreaper> No, it was made during an 'expert' install.
[10:36] <Darkhack> Thank you jerome
[10:36] <korhalf> jerome__, are you black?
[10:36] <korhalf> jerome__, i'm not being racist, just wondering
[10:36] <jerome__> I'd need help setting up an Epson DX 3850 printer on 5.10. It asks for a driver and according to some posts i've found on linuxprinting, I choose PM-740C driver. But the printer only empty the paper tray and output blank pages.
[10:36] <slide> How do i install a .deb?
[10:36] <selinium> mcphail: didn't show anything..
[10:37] <korhalf> selinium, it isnt being used then
[10:37] <jerome__> korhalf, why do you care?
[10:37] <trappist> slide: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:37] <slide> ty :)
[10:37] <lowman> slide: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[10:37] <lowman> sudo first :P
[10:37] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, because the ubuntu driver is 6.X and the ati is 8.20. and read somewhere, that the new ati driver would support suspend.
[10:37] <korhalf> jerome__, i've never met an african american who uses linux
[10:37] <trappist> korhalf: don't be an idiot plz kthx
[10:37] <khanreaper> su
[10:37] <jerome__> korhalf, i'm french and white ;)
[10:37] <ZeroIRC> korhalf, Well, you must not talk to people
[10:37] <korhalf> oh vraiment?
[10:38] <selinium> korhalf, mcphail: I still get  ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program  when trying to use sound recorder to test microphone.
[10:38] <manuel_> hello
[10:38] <selinium> korhalf, mcphail: i have two sound cards.
[10:38] <korhalf> j'ai jamais vu un african qui utilise linux
[10:38] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: it's not going to be easy to install now... you're going to have to find a list of the files that were installed by the ati driver... delete those, and then reinstall any ubuntu packages that had those files in them
[10:38] <thatch> korhalf: I don't reall believe your questions are appropriate.  And, since it matters to you, the person who introduced me to linux is African American
[10:38] <korhalf> chiwawa_42, je blagues pas.
[10:38] <yggdrasil> trappist you still around ?
[10:38] <bornxbackwards> pourtant ubuntu c'est un mot africain
[10:38] <lowman> selinium: when all else fails REBOOT ...ew ew :P
[10:38] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, how do I get such a list?
[10:38] <trappist> yggdrasil: sorta
[10:39] <yggdrasil> ahh just wanted to say thanks
[10:39] <korhalf> thatch, dude i said im not trying to be racist, it's just ive never met any african americans who use linux.
[10:39] <yggdrasil> that sure helped out
[10:39] <cafuego> Ubuntu is an african word, not an african american word ;-)
[10:39] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: i don't know, i don't know how the ati installer works... you're going to have to google
[10:39] <selinium> lowman, been there, done that! :)
[10:39] <chiwawa_42> korhalf, this is the global channel, please keep on using english
[10:39] <trappist> cmatheson_: dpkg -L xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:39] <korhalf> chiwawa_42, thanks
[10:39] <cmatheson_> trappist: he's not using the package
[10:40] <trappist> well, whichever package
[10:40] <Agedec> Ok on the tutorial that ubotu on the multivverse, it shows Hoary Hedgehog, but i dont have that, only breezy
[10:40] <Hal9000> uhm, is it normal to get lots of warnings when compiling a kernel?
[10:40] <chiwawa_42> anyone with an Epson DX 3850 around?
[10:40] <Agedec> should i have the other?
[10:40] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: yeah it's probably ok
[10:40] <_jason> Agedec, read it carefully
[10:40] <korhalf> Hal9000, what do you think?
[10:40] <chiwawa_42> Hal9000, yeah
[10:40] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, it's not possible to just reinstall the ubuntu driver?
[10:40] <chiwawa_42> Hal9000, kernel coders are too dumb to solve warnings ;)
[10:40] <korhalf> Warnings, okay, Errors, no
[10:40] <Hal9000> so linus is a dirty cow :P
[10:40] <lowman> its normal if you are used to errors...errr :P```
[10:40] <k0rnz> is there an apt-get or yum install method for ubuntu distro?
[10:41] <korhalf> k0rnz, yes, apt-get.
[10:41] <k0rnz> from within the distro
[10:41] <korhalf> lol
[10:41] <Agedec> and BTW, i did enable it and all, and still no mplayer shows up
[10:41] <k0rnz> cool, I'm gonna partition to dual boot xp and ubuntu
[10:41] <korhalf> Agedec, add the marillat repository
[10:41] <cafuego> korhalf: No yum, but apt-get or aptitude do CLI stuff.
[10:41] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: i don't know, it may be... i don't know how much the driver's files and what not have changed in between versions... you could try to apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:41] <korhalf> cafuego, thanks cafuego i already knew that :P
[10:41] <_jason> Agedec, go to settings -> repos -> add, make sure you have selected multiverse
[10:42] <anthony_> hello
[10:42] <lowman> yak dual boot ...windoz just steal all the disk space for notta :P``
[10:42] <selinium> anthony, hello!
[10:42] <anthony_> can somebody help me with fixing my ".dmrc" file not having correct permissions
[10:42] <korhalf> i dual boot for Reason and CS:S
[10:42] <yggdrasil> im ust amazed this thing is running
[10:42] <yggdrasil> hard to believe
[10:42] <VeritasVigo> Anyone here using Ubuntu to run an enterprise java application server?
[10:42] <korhalf> till linux supports games better, ill be running windows
[10:43] <meheren> i can't seem to install window maker(plz private messege me so we don't get all this clutter thx) can someone hlep!!!?!?
[10:43] <anthony_> can somebody help me with fixing my ".dmrc" file not having correct permissions
[10:43] <selinium> anthony, wait a little while between repeat posting, if anyone can they will
[10:43] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, I'll try this first then!
[10:44] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: good luck
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> Hey, does ubuntu come pre-loaded with ssl?
[10:44] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, thx! ;)
[10:44] <_jason> Agedec, did that allow you to add multiverse?
[10:44] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, in xorg-driver-fglrx is ther a new xorg.conf included?
[10:44] <Raux> hi!
[10:45] <meheren> i can't seem to compile window maker can someone plz help!!!!!!!!!
[10:45] <meheren> i type ./configure
[10:45] <Raux> why I do not have some letters on my keyboard
[10:45] <meheren> make
[10:45] <meheren> make install
[10:45] <cafuego> !info wmaker
[10:45] <ubotu> wmaker: (NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.92.0-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 2220 kB, Installed size: 6104 kB
[10:45] <meheren> !!!and it does not work
[10:45] <ubotu> meheren: I don't know
[10:45] <Agedec> what do i do after "add"?
[10:45] <hoooyt> register 1234569 asdsa@hotmail.com
[10:45] <Raux> I I have ubuntu 5.10
[10:45] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: no, but i don't think you should need to edit that... if you do first try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:45] <_jason> Agedec, check multiverse
[10:45] <cafuego> meheren: 'sudo apt-get install wmaker'
[10:45] <Raux> nut some letters are missing
[10:45] <meheren> ok
[10:46] <meheren> really??!?? dang ok
[10:46] <meheren> thx!
[10:46] <cafuego> No compiling required.
[10:46] <cafuego> Just make sure 'universe' is enabled.
[10:46] <Agedec> I do, and then hit ok, then i go back and its unchecked
[10:46] <_jason> Agedec, so it didn't add it to the list?
[10:46] <meheren> it is
[10:46] <meheren> i have em all enabled
[10:46] <tibo> #pcinpact
[10:46] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, I am trying to access my home network through the terminal.. and unfortunately I can't, I need to retrieve files from it. How can I do this?
[10:47] <Agedec> i have breezy and the ubunto ones, thats it
[10:47] <meheren> ok so then in the sign in screen i should be able to switch to wmaker?
[10:47] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, I've still got the old xorg.con that should be working too, shouldn't it?
[10:47] <Agedec> ubuntu*
[10:47] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: what kind of home network?
[10:47] <_jason> Agedec, pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and I'll tell you what to add
[10:47] <selinium> I have two sound cards i have got sound but cant get the microphone to work on either. any help gratefully received!
[10:47] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: should be yeah
[10:47] <SweetestSavage> cmatheson_, through an LAN via Router
[10:48] <Agedec> ok, and i appriciate the help :)
[10:48] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: yeah but how are you dishing up the files? nfs? smb? ftp? rsync?
[10:48] <bshumate> hooty hoo!  i am fixing to hook up my Aibo with a little GNU/Linux of her own! http://www.tradeshowhell.com/?q=roboto
[10:48] <SweetestSavage> The address of it is smb://etc/etc
[10:48] <SweetestSavage> I'm not sure what you mean =/
[10:48] <ian_> Hello
[10:48] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, alright, restart
[10:48] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: is it just a normal windows network?
[10:48] <_jason> Agedec, np, I was hoping that would work, if it had I would have updated the wiki.  It seems like there is no gui way to add it on a default breezy install.
[10:48] <SweetestSavage> Yes it is
[10:49] <Agedec> ok i have it open, but do you want me to copy/paste or what, cause i dunno what you mean by "pastebin"
[10:49] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: ok, so use smbclient -U username \\\\\host\\share -P
[10:49] <norki> i messed up ubuntu by adding xgamma -gamma 2 to the startup files.. now it won't boot completely. What can I do to fix it?
[10:49] <cmatheson_> Agedec: /topic
[10:49] <_jason> !pastebin
[10:49] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:49] <Raux> damn
[10:50] <Agedec> oh cool
[10:50] <Raux> this 5.10 is shitty
[10:50] <SweetestSavage> How do I found out my username, just my linux one or?
[10:50] <jdong> I'm trying to write a program that generates audio pulses at a given frequency.....
[10:50] <grogoreo> hi
[10:50] <bshumate> Raux: utter not curse words with thine keyboard!
[10:50] <grogoreo> is there anyway I can play an OGG file in reverse?
[10:50] <trappist> jdong: a metronome?
[10:50] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: no, a username that has access to the files you want on that computer
[10:50] <korhalf> Hey guys, i run Plan 9
[10:51] <grogoreo> I have VLC, Totem and XMMS
[10:51] <korhalf> im thinking of switching to ubuntu
[10:51] <jdong> trappist: well, in the 10-30GHz arena :)
[10:51] <cmatheson_> korhalf: hmm, you should check out wmii then
[10:51] <korhalf> lol
[10:51] <bshumate> korhalf: cute lil bunny mascot!
[10:51] <korhalf> Plan 9..
[10:51] <jdong> trappist: you think that'll be possible?
[10:51] <SweetestSavage> Well, I can access it just fine when I open up the network via the GUI, just I have no permissions
[10:51] <Raux> bshumate,  I want to use estonian keyboard which is 105
[10:51] <Raux> bu it is not working
[10:51] <trappist> jdong: ghz audio?
[10:51] <Agedec> ok, topic nam: List contents
[10:51] <ian_> I've just installed ubuntu, after ordering a free CD! ;)   I was wondering how Canonical Ltd, can afford to make the CD and send it to me for nothing.
[10:51] <Agedec> its posted
[10:51] <SweetestSavage> Well, it gives me this error: Unable to open secrets database
[10:51] <Raux> and lang is installed too
[10:51] <jdong> trappist: is that really outrageous?
[10:51] <_jason> Agedec, link me please
[10:52] <bshumate> Raux: hopefully when you get it working, you'll refrain from those foul languages ;-)
[10:52] <Xenguy> ian_: billionaires help =)
[10:52] <jdong> trappist: audio isn't the point... I just want to generate some pulses that can reach the X band
[10:52] <Raux> lol bshumate
[10:52] <Agedec> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5967
[10:52] <derick> hi
[10:52] <Raux> Im from estonia
[10:52] <Raux> >D
[10:52] <dima_> i need help installing oregano
[10:52] <trappist> jdong: your computer hardware definitely isn't capable of generating ghz audio frequencies
[10:52] <jenda> dima_: Open pot, open bag, pour a little oregano powder, stir?
[10:52] <sorush21> guys how do I calibrate my monitor in linux ubuntu breezy kde?
[10:52] <jdong> trappist: ok, darn :-/
[10:52] <trappist> I doubt it's physically possible
[10:53] <dima_> WTF?
[10:53] <bshumate> jenda: carrying oregano in a bag?  what could possibly go wrong?!
[10:53] <Xenguy> ian_: http://markshuttleworth.com/
[10:53] <SweetestSavage> cmatheson_, oops, forgot to use sudo. Uhm, it tells me it's unable to fetch the machine's password
[10:53] <lowman> proctological linux probs huh Raux...been there with mandriva...kde hell :P```
[10:54] <norki> can i install ubuntu over my previous (broken) ubuntu install?
[10:54] <zion_> NO
[10:54] <dima_> hey can anybody here help me istall oregano???
[10:54] <Raux> lowman,  usally I use kde but now I have gnome
[10:54] <jenda> bshumate: Actually, they sell it in little bags, I usually store seasoning in little jars
[10:54] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: unable to fetch the machine's password?
[10:54] <SweetestSavage> Yes
[10:54] <_jason> Agedec, ok have you learnt about using sudo to edit files yet?
[10:54] <tyler> Could anyone help me with setting up my Dell Inspiron wireless?
[10:54] <dima_> what are u talking about??
[10:54] <tyler> I installed ndiswrapper
[10:54] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: try taking the '-P' off the end
[10:55] <tyler> and got the .inf to use, but im getting a fatal error
[10:55] <SweetestSavage> Okay
[10:55] <lowman> well you are stepping up in the world..personally I like the dark dungeon of the CLI myself..but only cuz I tunnel into my box at home from school :P
[10:55] <SweetestSavage> Ah, it worked! Thank you =)
[10:55] <bshumate> nothing like a nice bag of herbs to cheer up the holiday season
[10:55] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: np
[10:55] <Agedec> um, only thing i know how to do is follow tutorials, i dont really "know" what im doing (migrated from XP few days ago)
[10:55] <Agedec> :)
[10:56] <lowman> ya pass the oregano :P
[10:56] <_jason> Agedec, okay, have you read about sudo yet?
[10:56] <Agedec> I roughly know what it does
[10:56] <SweetestSavage> cmatheson_, when I use the "get" command, where does it save to?
[10:56] <norki> if i can't install ubuntu over the broken install, what do i do?
[10:56] <norki> format the entire drive?
[10:56] <foxiness> i can not run evolution after i select view by task on calender, and now every time i run it ,it will give me The Application "evolution-2.4" has quit unexpectedly."", how can i run it again please ?
[10:56] <Agedec> lets me do things with root privies right?
[10:56] <Agedec> or something like that
[10:56] <lovebug356> Hello,
[10:56] <_jason> Agedec, okay we are going to edit sources.list.  In a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <lowman> Sweetest..whatever folder you were iin
[10:56] <schachtles> hi
[10:57] <lovebug356> What's going on with the mono stuff in dapper?
[10:57] <schachtles> first time in here
[10:57] <_jason> Agedec, yes gives you superuser privileges
[10:57] <trappist> schachtles: get out newbie
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> lowman, what do you mean?
[10:57] <foxiness> and i try this command evolution --sm-disable but it the same is above ^
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> You mean on my hard drive?
[10:57] <Agedec> ok its open
[10:57] <norki> ... can anyone help me?
[10:57] <lowman> yes
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay.
[10:58] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: the directory that you are in right now
[10:58] <_jason> Agedec, add " multiverse" to the end of lines 18, 34, 35 (use the pastebin or enable numbering if you want)
[10:58] <SweetestSavage> Well, I'm on the network
[10:58] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: (probably your home directory... just wherever you launched smbclient from )
[10:58] <trappist> norki: you could always try fixing what's wrong
[10:58] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay.
[10:58] <_jason> Agedec, add it to line 19 as well
[10:58] <norki> er i dunno how
[10:58] <lowman> for example if you started an ftp session in /home/username then your file would be in /home/username
[10:58] <norki> it won't boot into ubuntu
[10:58] <norki> stops at the logo
[10:58] <norki> cos.. i added xgamma at startup line 10
[10:59] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks very much lowman =)
[10:59] <lowman> yw Sweetest :D
[10:59] <SweetestSavage> You guys are so helpful, haha. It must become a pain after awhile to answer my newbish questions >_>
[10:59] <foxiness> norki: you can use rescue mode and than nano to file you change it again
[11:00] <norki> i dunno which file it is. i used the menu. preferences - startup
[11:00] <lowman> SweetestSavage: some of us just do it to test what we think we know LOL
[11:00] <trappist> SweetestSavage: some of us used to be newbies
[11:00] <topyli> SweetestSavage: there are 647 people on this helpdesk. they can handle a couple of easy questions
[11:00] <leonardo> Hello Word
[11:00] <SweetestSavage> Haha, true enough. One day I'll be able to help back =)
[11:00] <DewDude> can someone reccommend some packages to install for compiling apps
[11:00] <navyn> has anybody here tried opensuse?
[11:00] <trappist> DewDude: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:00] <DewDude> DANKE
[11:00] <navyn> DewDude, build-essential
[11:00] <DewDude> i couldn't remember exactly what it was
[11:00] <lowman> some code to contribute others help :P
[11:01] <foxiness> norki: startup i dont have this ?
[11:01] <norki> it's under services
[11:01] <norki> services -> startup i think
[11:01] <navyn> i'm thinking of leaving ubuntu and trying something different, like maybe opensuse
[11:01] <tyler> Question: how do i get all of my icons to show up on the desktop? Such as home, trash, etc..
[11:01] <lowman> I used to be a tier 2.5 rep for comcast...I loved that job :D
[11:01] <Agedec> ok done
[11:01] <dima_> can anybody help me with installing OREGANO on my computer????
[11:02] <techrush> dont put oregano in your computer!
[11:02] <cmatheson_> tyler: they don't show up automatically?
[11:02] <trappist> dima_: instead of asking somebody to volunteer to help with an open-ended project, try asking a specific question
[11:02] <_jason> Agedec, save the changes and exit.  Then 'sudo apt-get update'  <-- same as reload in synaptic.  And if you prefix your message with '_jason' it'll be easier for me to see
[11:02] <tyler> no.
[11:02] <lowman> you mean you should never put oregano in your computer? darn, I thought that was what you were supposed to do with oregano DOH! :P
[11:03] <bshumate> dima_: the schematic swoftware?
[11:03] <foxiness> norki: i can not understarnd what the change you do ,if you can give me more info
[11:03] <tyler> cmatheson_, got it
[11:03] <Agedec> _jason done
[11:03] <bshumate> heh swoftware...aweswome
[11:03] <_jason> Agedec, try to get mplayer now
[11:03] <dima_> Yea the schematic software
[11:04] <norki> foxiness: i'm doing this from memory, as i can't boot into ubuntu..   Preferences -> Services -> Startup files
[11:04] <norki> perhaps it wasn't called Services
[11:04] <tyler> Question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper? on this tutorial, it says: #
[11:04] <tyler> Now you can set up your working Wlan device under Desktop->Administration->Networking
[11:04] <tyler> #
[11:04] <tyler>  .. how do i get there?
[11:04] <bshumate> dima_: it has simple install instructions....wassamatter?
[11:04] <_jason> tyler, probably system not desktop
[11:04] <norki> forums are down here..
[11:04] <Agedec> Hey its working
[11:05] <jenda> I put oregano in goulash
[11:05] <dima_> i'm new to ubuntu and linux i got it just a day ago i have no idea how to do anything
[11:05] <lowman> Mmmm is that hungarian goulash?
[11:05] <_jason> tyler,does that seem correct? system not desktop?
[11:05] <Agedec> '_jason' done
[11:05] <tyler> _jason, oh, got it, thanks
[11:05] <_jason> Agedec, you don't need the '' :)
[11:05] <norki> foxiness : found it? O.o
[11:06] <_jason> Agedec, np
[11:06] <Agedec> ...oh ok lol...im new to everything
[11:06] <Agedec> :) thanks a ton
[11:06] <_jason> tyler, okay, I'll update the wiki unless you wish to?
[11:06] <tyler> _jason, how do i do that??
[11:06] <Xenguy> dima_: shouldn't be too hard - it is packaged for ubuntu, yes?
[11:07] <conrad_> howdy, anyone tell me how i can convert mp3's into cd-format(meaning, how do i burn mp3's so i can play 'em in my cd-player as cd's)
[11:07] <lowman> tyler: click on edit
[11:07] <_jason> tyler, you click edit and make sure you have an account
[11:07] <lowman> play in the sandbox for a bit tho :P
[11:07] <_jason> tyler, i'll update it but you can try it out just so you know
[11:07] <Xenguy> conrad_: Not sure, but could try converting to
[11:07] <Xenguy> WAV
[11:07] <dima_> nope i downloaded it from their website
[11:07] <tyler> _jason, ok, cool, thanks
[11:07] <conrad_> Xenguy: and how? grip?
[11:07] <jenda> dima_: sorry, don't take it wrong. What is oregano - did you try "sudo apt-get oregano"?
[11:07] <Xenguy> dima_: forget that - it's packaged, just apt-get it
[11:08] <bshumate> dima_: there is an ubuntu package
[11:08] <trappist> or even sudo apt-get install oregano
[11:08] <_jason> tyler, done, does it make more sense this way?
[11:08] <jenda> dima_: Do "sudo apt-get install oregano"
[11:08] <dima_> really where can i find it???
[11:08] <bshumate> it is in universe though...
[11:08] <Xenguy> conrad_: dunno - try apt-cache search mp3 |grep -i wav
[11:08] <Agedec> _jason now, (sorry) how do i use mplayer to open a video file?
[11:08] <dima_> k i will try
[11:08] <sorush21> guys how do I calibrate my monitor in linux ubuntu breezy kde?
[11:08] <DarkMan> lo
[11:09] <lowman> whatis oregano ??
[11:09] <jenda> dima_: Do that in the terminal, that is
[11:09] <cmatheson_> Agedec: mplayer filename
[11:09] <dima_> k
[11:09] <chkMINUS> im thinking about buying a laptop, and installing ubuntu.  should i look out for anything specific?
[11:09] <lowman> if not a spice :/
[11:09] <_jason> Agedec, you should have mplayer in the 'sound and video' section of your app menu
[11:09] <DarkMan> anyone  can help me  with instalkling  a  lexmark printer ?
[11:09] <Xenguy> dima_: actually I am looking at debian - sec and I'll boot up Ubuntu
[11:09] <trappist> chkMINUS: works beautifully on my inspiron 600m
[11:09] <tyler> _jason, perfect now, thanks
[11:09] <_jason> ubotu, tell DarkMan about printing
[11:09] <jenda> DarkMan: try linuxprinting.org
[11:09] <Xenguy> dima_: but if Ubu has it, then sudo apt-get install oregano
[11:09] <dima_> wow
[11:10] <chkMINUS> trappist, nice :)
[11:10] <dima_> i think i worked
[11:10] <norki> chkMINUS: don't get one with a Realtek HD soundcard if u wanna use ubuntu
[11:10] <Agedec> oh lol
[11:10] <dima_> how do you know this stuff???
[11:10] <DarkMan> lo jenda , yesterday i ask the  same  as  lexmark , u remember?
[11:10] <djm62> chkMINUS: hp sell laptops with ubu
[11:10] <DarkMan> and  jason
[11:11] <DarkMan>  its  a  lexmark z55  ,  can't instal it  , no drivers  for it in ubuntu
[11:11] <lowman> dima_: some of us in here have done the grueling deed of RTFM :D
[11:11] <dima_> YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME
[11:11] <lowman> trust me that was a dry read indeed :P
[11:11] <SAM_theman> :D
[11:11] <SAM_theman> thank you
[11:12] <SAM_theman> i am the CEO of thiis channel *wink *wink
[11:12] <jenda> DarkMan: Of course I remeber...
[11:12] <DarkMan> still not find  out  how  to get it ,lol
[11:12] <lowman> hello CEO
[11:12] <SAM_theman> Yes
[11:12] <jenda> DarkMan: And neither have I :)
[11:12] <norki> o well i'll just have to format the harddrive from the ubuntu dvd then?
[11:13] <jenda> DarkMan: Not that I tried... I fought with my HPLJ 1020
[11:13] <SAM_theman> ask my any question and i've got the answer *wink *wink
[11:13] <l3m> i'm trying to compile a library on ubuntu and i get tons of weird errors somewhere in gcc/g++ or libstdc++ ... ( e.g. "new" not defined and stuff like that ). I installed gcc and g++ and libstdc++6-dev and i have no idea what could be the cause. the whole thing compiles fine on debian.......
[11:13] <lowman> what is the meaning of life SAM?
[11:13] <_jason> lowman, that's easy, 42
[11:13] <cmatheson_> l3m: install build-essential
[11:13] <SAM_theman> Well to live it out and enjoy it
[11:13] <l3m> cmatheson_: is installed
[11:14] <bshumate> lowman: 42...read the book, avoid the moive.
[11:14] <lowman> yes it is 42 but wasn't it the question they didn't know?
[11:14] <bshumate> movie
[11:14] <lowman> i read it years agooo
[11:14] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about life
[11:14] <cmatheson_> l3m: your makefile is bad or something  then
[11:14] <jomilo> hola
[11:14] <SAM_theman> :D
[11:14] <_jason> l3m, maybe you need to use gcc3.4?
[11:14] <l3m> cmatheson_: it's a big opensource project ( ogre3d.org ) and it compiles fine on debian.
[11:15] <lowman> thanks ubotu
[11:15] <SAM_theman> U see 've created this little bot called ubotu
[11:15] <l3m> _jason: i installed gcc3.4 but it doesn't help
[11:15] <lowman> i feel edumicated now..may I leave the temple?
[11:15] <norki> SAM_theman: know this? what should i do if i broke ubuntu and wanna reinstall it? cos i can't seem to install over my previous install
[11:15] <SAM_theman> Lol j/k
[11:15] <trappist> l3m: try to scroll to the beginning of the errors and find a reference to a missing .h file
[11:15] <bshumate> !beer
[11:15] <SAM_theman> well my friend wipe your harddrive
[11:15] <_jason> l3m, did you tell it to use 3.4?
[11:15] <SAM_theman> wipe it all
[11:15] <norki> doh
[11:16] <lowman> please may i have a beer?
[11:16] <XiCillin> yea
[11:16] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about beer
[11:16] <lowman> upload me a cold one
[11:16] <l3m> _jason: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and i also tried replacing the symlinks in /usr/bin/
[11:16] <XiCillin> apt-get install beer
[11:16] <_jason> l3m, okay I have no idea then
[11:16] <trappist> l3m: try to scroll to the beginning of the errors and find a reference to a missing .h file
[11:16] <DarkMan> but  tnx  anyway  jenda,  i don't think there  is  a  good driver for it  at the moment
[11:16] <XiCillin> ./beer -oz 40
[11:16] <SAM_theman> lol
[11:16] <DarkMan>  maybe  i buy  a  other printer   hehehe
[11:16] <Agedec> _jason ...I know i have the directory right cause i drag and dropped the file in the konsole, but mplayer says its not there... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5968
[11:16] <lowman> ubotu tell SAM about his door prize
[11:17] <l3m> _jason: thanks.
[11:17] <lowman> figures
[11:17] <lowman> :P
[11:17] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about never do that again
[11:17] <l3m> trappist: it's not a missing header??? it says new and delete are not defined
[11:17] <trappist> l3m: I'm speculating that it probably is a missing header
[11:17] <SAM_theman> u forgot the " : "
[11:17] <lowman> ubotu is silent ...tgft
[11:17] <ubotu> lowman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:17] <MaStErYuRi> hi all
[11:17] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about silent
[11:17] <_jason> Agedec, give it the full path
[11:17] <lowman> no much smaller
[11:18] <trappist> l3m: if you're missing a header it'll tell you and then spew so many errors you're lucky if you can scroll to the top
[11:18] <MaStErYuRi> do you know how can i install gdebi?
[11:18] <Agedec> _jason what do you mean>?
[11:18] <Xenguy> dima_: yeah, Ubu has it - any luck?
[11:18] <l3m> trappist: thanks. but it's not. i'm pretty experienced in developing software on linux, i've never gotten such a weird error... it doesn't mention any missing header, i checked that long before coming here...
[11:18] <Agedec> _jason i put  mplayer /home/brian/Desktop/WoW/WoW Movies/tychon-1131744940.wmv
[11:18] <tyler> Question: How do I access my touchpad driver properties?
[11:19] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about WoW
[11:19] <conrad_> can k3b convert mp3 into .wav or any cd-format? anyone, please?
[11:19] <SAM_theman> dammit i created u
[11:19] <_jason> Agedec, put that thing in single quotes or else the space will mess things up.  Alternatively change the space to '\ ' without the quotes
[11:19] <cmatheson_> tyler: that's cute how you prepend your question w/ "Question: "
[11:19] <SAM_theman> brb
[11:19] <tyler> cmatheson_, yeah its easier for people to notice
[11:20] <Hal9000> i'm trying to do make xconfig, but get this error:  Unable to find the QT installation. - what package do i need to install?
[11:20] <_jason> Agedec, also, if you want to use the gui the command is gmplayer
[11:20] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: libqt??-dev
[11:21] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: thats what i thought too, but doesnt work anyways
[11:21] <jenda> DarkMan: Which model is it?
[11:21] <DarkMan> z55
[11:21] <trappist> l3m: ah, I didn't realize you'd written this.  try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' to be sure you've got all the standard libraries and headers
[11:21] <trappist> and linkers etc.
[11:21] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: hmm, maybe you should stick w/ make menuconfig
[11:21] <l3m> trappist: i did. i used to develop on debian, all the "standard" solves didn't help..
[11:21] <DarkMan> i tried  to do  the instruction on lexmark page  , but that  diden't work
[11:22] <dima_> thanks i got it installed
[11:23] <Agedec> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5969
[11:23] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: needless to say, the kernel failed to compile after half an hour of work hehe... so im gonna configure now :P menuconfig is fine
[11:23] <DarkMan> can't get the driver in the list  with printers
[11:23] <ko> hi!
[11:23] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: good luck... are you using the stock config that came from the debian package or did you make your own?
[11:23] <_jason> Agedec, /home/brian/Desktop/WoW/WoWMovies/tychon-1131744940.wmv you probably still need the space, don't remove it.  Spaces are ok if you enclose the path in quotes like that
[11:23] <DarkMan> and  if i look  in hardware info  it  finds  a  usb  lexmark z55 printer
[11:24] <ko> i can't play some mp3 with rythmbox
[11:24] <epronk> After logging in it takes forever before the gnome desktop appears. Also when i shutdown it takes a lot of time before the dialog shows up. Any clues?
[11:24] <ko> i have installed the codecs
[11:24] <ko> gstreamer
[11:24] <Agedec> _jason I'm up and running, thank you so much :)
[11:24] <_jason> Agedec, np
[11:24] <ko> i need help
[11:24] <_jason> ko, do other mp3's play?
[11:25] <benplaut> anyone know how to apply a patch to the xserver?
[11:25] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: i used the stock config from the badger image package, now im using that as a basis... just disabling all drivers and things i dont need
[11:25] <ko> yes _jason
[11:25] <lowman> try this instead /home/lowmansmachine/dirty/nasty/movies/your/momma/would/flip/about/nasty.wmv :P
[11:26] <ko> i can play other mp3s
[11:26] <jenda> DarkMan: Hmm... linuxprinting.org has failed me again. They are beginning to be outdated... I don't know where else to ask
[11:26] <_jason> ko, are you sure that the mp3 is ok?
[11:26] <ko> yes becouse i have played it in suse
[11:26] <DarkMan>  me  neither ,  but i still hopes  that someone  has  a  lexmark z55 printer  installed  and  can tell me  how  to do it
[11:26] <_jason> ko, have you tried other players
[11:27] <ko> _jason, no i haven't
[11:27] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: ok... that's strange that it didn't compile though... you're using the same version of kernel sources as the config-file right?
[11:27] <ko> i'll try with xmms
[11:27] <lowman> ko: video mp3 or audio?
[11:27] <ko> lowman, audio mp3
[11:27] <ko> i have tryed with rythmbox and totem
[11:27] <lowman> try mpg123 <--works fer me
[11:27] <VooDoo> http://www.linux-land.co.uk
[11:27] <ko> but i'll install xmms
[11:27] <ko> xmms is for kde?
[11:28] <ko> is xmms available for gnome?
[11:28] <lowman> do you need a gui ko?
[11:28] <Determinist> ko, it's an application, it runs on kde and on gnome
[11:28] <trappist> xmms is desktop-independent
[11:28] <ko> ok Determinist
[11:29] <norki> how can i launch an mp3 from the file explorer? to make it open in xmms
[11:29] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: i just went to packages.ubuntu.com and looked for 2.6.15 sources for badger and the 2.6.15 image for my architecture to get the config file from
[11:29] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: it stopped here: make[5] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h]  Error 1
[11:30] <lowman> female dachshund puppy..what should we name her?
[11:30] <coNP> lowman, ubuntu?
[11:30] <coNP> lowman: maybe "ubunta" that sounds more appropriate for a female
[11:30] <Ng> bunty ;)
[11:31] <SAM_theman> how d o you find out what version of KDE your using
[11:31] <lowman> keep'em comin
[11:33] <epronk> anyone here suffering a slow starting gnome?
[11:33] <lowman> i'm gonna post a pick of this lil puppy brb
[11:33] <Charles> Hi, how we compile a program that use GTK librairies ?
[11:34] <topyli> epronk: everybody suffers from that
[11:34] <ipower> hey
[11:34] <ipower> do u know when did ubuntu started?
[11:34] <_jason> Charles, look for a package that starts with libgtk and end with -dev
[11:34] <topyli> Charles: install gtk development libs, compile away
[11:35] <thegladiator> how i append the path variable ?
[11:35] <epronk> topyli: I mean slow like - minutes?
[11:35] <thegladiator> thegladiator@thegladiator:~$ PATH= $PATH:/home/thegladiator
[11:35] <thegladiator> bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/home/thegladiator: No such file or directory
[11:35] <topyli> epronk: oh, that's a bit too much
[11:36] <Charles> I download all the librairie and when I try to compile, it put me a error : dont find include gtk/gtk.h
[11:36] <epronk> today I reboot, and after logging in, it takes minutes before the desktop shows up
[11:36] <concept10> I need help!  I installed kubuntu on top on the usual breezy and didnt like it much.  For some reason I cant change my theme controls in gnome anymore, something has taken this over.  Anyone have any knowledge of this?
[11:36] <epronk> gconfd is suspected.
[11:37] <ubuntu> there are someone from Colombia?
[11:37] <topyli> Charles: don't download gtk, just apt-get the gtk dev packages and try then
[11:37] <topyli> Charles: what are you compiling anyway?
[11:37] <Charles> a program that use gtk librairie
[11:38] <conrad_> is centOS a good os?
[11:38] <topyli> Charles: ok then, it's a secret. and there are no ubuntu packages?
[11:39] <_jason> thegladiator, are you looking to make that a permanent addition to your path?
[11:39] <Absenth> roughly, what's the timeline for Drake?
[11:39] <topyli> conrad_: might be a good server if you're fond of red hat
[11:39] <thegladiator> yes
[11:39] <fluvvell> have a little problem with a mount of a usb stick.  Say root priveliges needed to delete things...
[11:40] <Charles> I write this to compile :  gcc -o Project Project.c
[11:40] <SAM_theman> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/31071-1.jpg
[11:40] <thegladiator> i found the error , PATH= $PATH had a space in it
[11:40] <topyli> epronk: what if you make a new user and log in as that one, will the desktop work ok?
[11:40] <_jason> thegladiator, read the comments in ~/.bash_profile
[11:40] <SAM_theman> my kde will like that
[11:40] <thegladiator> thank you yep
[11:40] <SAM_theman> *WIll
[11:40] <fluvvell> does anyone recognise root/usb stick privelege problems?
[11:40] <epronk> topyli: good suggestion
[11:40] <SAM_theman> how d o you find out what version of KDE your using
[11:40] <epronk> topyli: i'm gonna try that now
[11:41] <topyli> Charles: no makefile? did you write the program just now?
[11:41] <thegladiator> you can see that in synaptic , ur kde version and stuff
[11:41] <phasegen> fluwell:  I have that problem, but it let's me cut and paste...
[11:41] <fluvvell> phasegen, thanks
[11:41] <Charles> It is just a simple program for me to see how work the gtk librairie
[11:41] <Travis_> hi guys, I need help with another shell script, I am trying to create a shell script that will ask for a user name and a password and then it will try to authenticate to ssh server specifed in the script? I don't know howto do this, since ssh asks for a password and you can't specify it in the command? any ideas, PM ME
[11:42] <fluvvell> so you haven't solved it?
[11:42] <_jason> thegladiator, if you decide to enable ~/bin, you'll need to source the profile again: source ~/.bash_profile
[11:42] <fluvvell> i can mount it as root, but need my users to be able to mount it too.
[11:42] <logolept> hallo?
[11:42] <Estel|uk> :)
[11:42] <trappist> Travis_: why not just let the ssh server prompt for the password
[11:42] <DarkMan> lo
[11:42] <thegladiator> ok i will
[11:43] <thegladiator> ty
[11:43] <karlan_> whats the name of the wellused dc++hub software named something like "yoshi" ?
[11:43] <phasegen> fluwell: I'm still trying to figure out where all the repositories are...   Give me a couple of years to learn the rest, and I'll get back to ya on it...
[11:43] <phasegen> :)
[11:43] <Travis_> trappist not the point of the script I am writing
[11:44] <Dattas> Is telnet were i can remotly uset a terminal?
[11:44] <topyli> Charles: ok, i haven't built such things, just distributed stuff with makefiles and all. just make sure you have the libs (from ubuntu, don't build random libs from the web)
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: nein!
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: telnet is to be avoid!
[11:44] <yatesy> Travis_: so what is the point? apart from a keylogger
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: use ssh!
[11:44] <Dattas> how?
[11:44] <dooglus> Travis_: you can use your private key instead of a password - that saves a lot of messing about with password prompts
[11:44] <bshumate> !ssh
[11:44] <ubotu> methinks ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[11:44] <trappist> Travis_: you'd probably have to make it an expect script
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: that's how
[11:44] <jgrieves_away> how can i bring up a gdm in an xnest
[11:45] <Travis_> dooglus but lots of users would be logging in
[11:45] <jgrieves_away> i thought there was an option in system toosl
[11:45] <trappist> Travis_: or if it's for your own use, forget about passwords and use keys
[11:45] <Travis_> so that wouldn't work
[11:45] <Travis_> keys won't work
[11:45] <cafuego> jgrieves_away: Xnest --query <host.ip> :1
[11:45] <cafuego> maybe '-query' instead of '--query'
[11:45] <Travis_> so theres not like a modified version of the ssh client that lets me specifiy it in the command like user:password@host
[11:45] <dooglus> Travis_: so what's the point of the exercise?  you want to prompt for a password and pass it on to ssh?  why not just let ssh prompt for a password instead?
[11:45] <yatesy> its called security :P
[11:45] <jgrieves_away> cafuego isn't there a menu item, "New nested login window"
[11:46] <Travis_> dooglus I am using a gui interface todo it
[11:46] <bshumate> Travis_: that is what keys are for...
[11:46] <dooglus> Travis_: if you specify the password on the command line, everyone on the system can see the password when they run "ps"
[11:46] <yatesy> correct
[11:46] <Travis_> dooglus thats fine with me
[11:46] <trappist> Travis_: there's a modified version of ssh called 'telnet' that's not terribly picky about password security
[11:46] <yatesy> rofl =)
[11:46] <Travis_> since no one is gonna actually be logged into the machine
[11:46] <yatesy> so WHY BOTHER?
[11:46] <cafuego> jgrieves_away: Not on my machine
[11:46] <Decarabia> hio
[11:47] <dooglus> Travis_: if you don't mind everyone seeing the password, you may as well not use passwords.  leave all the passwords empty - then you won't need to propmt for them.
[11:47] <Mulder> how do you run that network autoconfig script that ubuntu runs during the installation process?
[11:47] <Decarabia> does somebody know some good extrarepositories ?
[11:47] <bshumate> Travis_: iffn you don't care about security, use passwordless accounts with ssh... then again what is the point?
[11:47] <Mulder> and does ubuntu use debian's auto-detect hardware script to see what modules to load?
[11:47] <Travis_> no they need to be passworded
[11:47] <Travis_> but the actuall accounts are set to goto /bin/false or whatever
[11:47] <dooglus> Travis_: with insecure passwords?  why?
[11:47] <yatesy> Travis_: just explain more for gods sake
[11:47] <Travis_> so no one is actually logged into the computer
[11:47] <Travis_> ok
[11:47] <chaz_> hi
[11:48] <Decarabia> does somebody know some good extrarepositories ?
[11:48] <yatesy> Decarabia: google does
[11:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell Decarabia about easysource
[11:48] <Decarabia> i dont find
[11:48] <Decarabia> easysource ?
[11:48] <Dattas> how do i remote a ssh with windows?
[11:48] <_jason> Decarabia, ubotu sent you a message
[11:48] <cdubya> putty
[11:48] <_jason> Dattas, google for the putty client
[11:49] <MoonRanger> ubotu, tell MoonRanger about easysource
[11:49] <lucasvo> Dattas: why would you need extrarepositories?
[11:49] <cdubya> Dattas, should be able to use putty
[11:49] <chaz_> lol - also been trying to get vnc / putty working
[11:49] <dallows> hm.. What is kacpid plz ?
[11:49] <chaz_> been intersting
[11:49] <Travis_> basically, I am setting up a Mac OS X computer for a school the school uses SSH with pGina for auth on the windows boxes, so I need a away to make a shell script to authenticate to  the server with the users on, with a gui interface, if the authentication is a success it continues on to the OS X login
[11:49] <lucasvo> Dattas: I mean it for Decarabia
[11:49] <Decarabia> well i try right now :D
[11:50] <trappist> that is an insane authentication setup
[11:50] <yatesy> yup
[11:50] <dallows> >>> How Can I boot kernel without acpi support ?? <<<
[11:50] <gtk2> http://70.16.64.188:6317/ <- can someone test and see if this works?
[11:50] <yatesy> they should get into LDAP if they want to have multiple OS's
[11:50] <gtk2> as in the site, not the link.
[11:51] <trappist> Travis_: use a language like perl with a Net::SSH module
[11:51] <_jason> gtk2, times out
[11:51] <chaz_> gtk2: nothig
[11:51] <gtk2> wtf :(
[11:51] <Travis_> tried LDAP SSH works much better
[11:51] <cdubya> gt2, same here
[11:51] <Travis_> hmmm
[11:51] <trappist> works much better?  I don't even want to know.
[11:51] <Travis_> so theres no way to send text to program thats running in terminal
[11:51] <bshumate> ldap vs. ssh?  now there's an interesting comparison!
[11:51] <cmatheson_> Travis_: write
[11:51] <trappist> Travis_: if you wrote an expect script - again, perl
[11:51] <dooglus> Travis_: look at "expect"
[11:51] <dallows> hmm
[11:52] <Travis_> because I can get it to please enter user@ip;s password:
[11:52] <dallows> _jason: How can I boot kernel without acpi support ?? You know ?
[11:52] <_jason> dallows, nope
[11:52] <cmatheson_> dallows: put 'noacpi' after the kernel boot-line
[11:53] <dallows> cmatheson_: Ill try..
[11:53] <Decarabia> ok it works
[11:53] <Decarabia> great
[11:53] <Decarabia> thx
[11:53] <Decarabia> but does somebody know how to work with apache
[11:53] <Decarabia> ?
[11:54] <bshumate> Decarabia: ask your specific question...maybe someone here can answer it
[11:54] <Agedec> How do you hide/unhide the top and bottom bar fully?
[11:54] <cdubya> dallows, there's some talk about disabling it here.... http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_Thinkpad_X31
[11:55] <Decarabia> well i try to make my php-scripts work local
[11:55] <Decarabia> but how ?
[11:55] <cdubya> dallows, looks like it's acpi=off
[11:55] <jenda_zZz> hey... all you oregano fans, there is a ##cooking channel :)
[11:56] <Travis_> heres my shell script
[11:56] <Travis_> http://pastebin.com/472380
[11:56] <Travis_> any ideas
[11:56] <Travis_> on making it work
[11:57] <libra> hello
[11:57] <bshumate> Decarabia: not sure what you mean there buddy.  Make them run local?  as in on a locally hosted instance of apache?
[11:57] <Decarabia> i try to make my php-scripts work local
[11:57] <Chompitiarve> Hello
[11:57] <libra> what is
[11:57] <libra> 
[11:57] <Agedec> Is there a hotkey to hide/uhide the top and bottom Panels?
[11:57] <gtk2> y'know whats strange? if i visit http://70.16.64.188:6317/ i can see it, but noone else that http://70.16.64.188:6317/ can get it to resolve...
[11:57] <steele> I need JRE SDK to get Eclipse fully run, but how can I get "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"? What package do I need to install, if you could help, it would be fine ;-)
[11:57] <libra> yes i know
[11:57] <Decarabia> bshumate no i try to test my scripts on my pc. how to handle this with apache ?
[11:57] <djk_> libra: a french letter?
[11:58] <bshumate> Travis_: ye cannot do that with bash alone...you need expect, as previously suggested
[11:58] <yatesy> Travis_: so you wanna make a GUI that loads before the osx login gui, that authenticates users on a windows system. and if successful then allow them access to the osx gui to login again?
[11:58] <libra> what
[11:58] <erUSUL> !java
[11:58] <libra> djk what
[11:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:58] <Travis_> yatesy  yes
[11:58] <Travis_> only it authenticates to users on a linux system
[11:58] <libra> helloooooooooo
[11:58] <djk_> libra: you asked what is  ..
[11:58] <steele> thx
[11:59] <yatesy> but you'll have to distribute a username + password for the osx system anyway, so i don't see the point in authenticating different details twice
[11:59] <libra> sorry djk
[11:59] <Travis_> yatesy centralized login
[11:59] <Travis_> and mounting the samba shares
[11:59] <libra> what said djk
[12:00] <bshumate> Decarabia: install apache with php support:  sudo apt-get install php4