[12:04] <Riddell> Hobbsee_away: nothing paticular, what's on the suggested packages?
[12:04] <Hobbsee_away> a whole lot of stuff...um...
[12:05] <Hobbsee_away> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages was what i was looking at
[12:09] <Riddell> Hobbsee_away: I've had a request for http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29207
[12:21] <Hobbsee_away> ooh!  pretty!
[12:23] <Hobbsee> i'll see what i can do - *bookmarks link*
[12:34] <seth_k|lappy> girls and their pretty things :P
[12:34] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[12:34] <Hobbsee> of course
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[12:35] <seth_k|lappy> haha
[12:35] <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: you don't like pretty girls?  :)
[12:35] <seth_k|lappy> I don't like the pretty things they spend my money on :)
[12:35] <seth_k|lappy> j/k
[12:36] <seth_k|lappy> as for pretty girls, see "Quote of the Moment": http://sethkinast.com/blog/?q=267
[12:36] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[12:38] <seth_k|lappy> although, nice girls are better than pretty girls
[12:38] <seth_k|lappy> </ramble>
[12:38] <seth_k|lappy> :)
[12:42] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: i agree with you there
[12:43] <Hobbsee> pretty girls are often horrible
[12:44] <mornfall> Riddell: sorry i got stuck
[12:45] <Riddell> mornfall: what's up?
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[12:46] <mornfall> nothing much
[12:47] <mornfall> err
[12:47] <mornfall> oucg
[12:47] <mornfall> ouch*
[12:49] <Riddell> hmm?
[12:50] <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, sistpoty advocated kmobiletools and uploaded it yesterday btw :)
[12:50] <mornfall> Riddell: it got unsermake'ified by accident
[12:51] <Riddell> unsermake is like that
[12:51] <mornfall> building now
[12:51] <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: great
[12:51] <mornfall> Riddell: have you tried anything with the libapt-front?
[12:52] <Riddell> mornfall: no been busy fighting *buntu-docs
[12:53] <mornfall> ah
[12:56] <mornfall> at least it did not block on me
[01:28] <mornfall> Riddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept/ too
[01:29] <Riddell> rocking
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[01:45] <mornfall> Riddell: let me know when you have something, i'll probably stick around for a while
[01:46] <Riddell> compiling...
[01:47] <mornfall> yay
[01:50] <seth_k|lappy> party time, g'night all
[01:50] <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: kmobiletools got past NEW
[01:51] <seth_k|lappy> I saw :)
[01:51] <seth_k|lappy> is that automated, or does that mean it passed some sort of elmo goodness-check?
[01:52] <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: it passed elmo
[01:52] <seth_k|lappy> fancy
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[02:11] <Riddell> mornfall: new adept is go!
[02:12] <Riddell> mornfall: how come there's two ways to add tags?
[02:12] <mornfall> Riddell: i don't know if the menu will stay
[02:12] <mornfall> (menu as in through the buttons)
[02:12] <Riddell> yeah, the menu is ok but a bit scary when it takes up the full screen
[02:13] <Riddell> looking nice though
[02:13] <Riddell> console on by default?
[02:13] <mornfall> the d&d interface is obviously better :)
[02:13] <Riddell> d&d interface is nice
[02:13] <mornfall> Riddell: currently yes, the progress indicator needs work
[02:14] <mornfall> Riddell: and konsole part does not like to be used without being shown first, it tends to acquire 16 or so column layout
[02:14] <mornfall> so i have to figure how to make it happier
[02:15] <mornfall> updater is somewhat unstable for some reason too... but, well
[02:16] <mornfall> (i assume memory corruption somewhere early, but trying to valgrind it so far didn't yield useful results)
[02:20] <Riddell> mornfall: I've had a couple crashes.  no drkonqui either
[02:21] <mornfall> Riddell: with manager or with updater?
[02:21] <mornfall> Riddell: manager should not crash :'/
[02:21] <Riddell> mornfall: manager
[02:21] <mornfall> blergh
[02:22] <mornfall> let's see
[02:22] <Riddell> mornfall: kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/adept-crash
[02:24] <mornfall> wow that's hell of a smashed stack
[02:24] <mornfall> valgrind would help :'/
[02:24] <mornfall> it's just insanely slow on all of my hardware :'(
[02:25] <mornfall> (like, 15 minutes just to start up... oh well)
[02:25] <Riddell> mornfall: would ssh onto my hardware help?
[02:27] <mornfall> that depends on how much computing power you have... and i'd probably need nx anyway... i will try to debug it with more traditional means first, and if that fails, i'll see on how to get valgrind running
[02:27] <mornfall> (but thanks anyway)
[02:28] <mornfall> maybe a hint how to crash it could help, too :)
[02:28] <Riddell> mornfall: that was when it was installing a package
[02:28] <Riddell> mornfall: works perfectly on powerpc
[02:31] <mornfall> hmm!
[02:31] <mornfall> Riddell: could it be related to having some tag filter set up and running update or commit?
=== mornfall tries
[02:33] <Riddell> don't think I had a filter set up
[02:34] <mornfall> there's definitely a crash that way
=== mornfall kicks enrico
[02:35] <mornfall> still no cache-reload-safe tags :p
[02:35] <Riddell> mornfall: shall I upload this or go to bed?
[02:35] <mornfall> i'll implement that for next alpha, so i don't miss this one again (this was a crasher in first alpha too)
[02:36] <mornfall> Riddell: whichever you prefer... it can surely wait till you get up
[02:36] <mornfall> Riddell: but i'd like to have it uploaded (despite the crashers)
[02:36] <Riddell> then uploaded it shall be
[02:36] <mornfall> well
[02:37] <mornfall> i *may* have a version with one or two crashers (most of them) fixed tomorrow
[02:37] <mornfall> i won't promise... but if you like to bet on that and save some work...
[02:38] <mornfall> tomorrow as in today
[02:38] <mornfall> :-)
[02:38] <Riddell> uploading is hardly hard work :)
[02:49] <Riddell> mornfall: uploaded
[02:49] <Riddell> time for bed I think
[02:49] <Riddell> great work mornfall 
[02:49] <mornfall> Riddell: thanks... good night
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[12:36] <Tonio_> hieveryone
[12:36] <Riddell> morning Tonio_ 
[12:37] <Tonio_> morning Riddell 
[12:37] <Tonio_> Riddell: ust uploading latest version of knetdockapp
[12:38] <Tonio_> admin folder updated, and patch for pot file added ;)
[12:43] <Riddell> groovy
[12:45] <Tonio_> hum
[12:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: little error during pbuilder, just a little change required.
[12:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: I sent an email asking for a valid tarball (the upstream just sent me the latest), I'll probably upload toonight, when the error will be corrected...
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[01:05] <Hobbsee> i really love looking like an idiot on mailing lists!
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[01:07] <Hobbsee> you've seen the kde-devel mailing list, i take it?
[01:08] <Riddell> no, I saw someone on the kubuntu-users mailing list say "is this a bad joke" when trying to download kmymoney2 source debs
[01:09] <freeflying_> Riddell: hi
[01:10] <Riddell> hi freeflying_ 
[01:10] <Hobbsee> argh
[01:10] <Hobbsee> yes, that
[01:10] <Hobbsee> i get them confused easily lol
[01:10] <freeflying_> Riddell: every software in kubuntu dapper crash 
=== Hobbsee now doesnt want to reboot after hearing freeflying say that...
[01:11] <Riddell> freeflying_: I'm not having any problems, crash on startup or randomly?
[01:11] <freeflying_> Riddell: I even can not log in the desktop
[01:11] <freeflying_> even after a fresh installing
[01:12] <freeflying_> Riddell:  they will crash too in gnome 
[01:13] <Riddell> ah well, at least it's not my fault
[01:13] <Riddell> let me try a dist-upgrade
[01:13] <freeflying_> Riddell: I do this every day 
[01:15] <Riddell> 175MB, might take a wee while
[01:15] <Hobbsee> hehe maybe, yeah
[01:15] <Hobbsee> seemed like there were a lot of updates today...
[01:15] <Riddell> freeflying_: when did this start?
[01:15] <Riddell> I wonder if it's the dbus rebuild
[01:16] <freeflying_> Riddell: about two days ago
[01:16] <Riddell> could be dbus then
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[01:19] <Hobbsee> i'll reboot in a minute, and see if the problem occurs here too...
[01:21] <freeflying_> Riddell: http://kubuntu.3322.org/crashlog/
[01:23] <Riddell> freeflying_: skim finally build to i386 this morning http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/s/skim/1.4.3-0ubuntu4/
[01:26] <freeflying_> Riddell:  got the crashlog?
[01:26] <Riddell> freeflying_: yes, hmm, kbuildsycoca
[01:27] <Riddell> 20 minutes to go on my dist-upgrade
[01:27] <Riddell> freeflying_: have you tried as a new user?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> sounds like you need a faster computer Riddell :P
[01:27] <freeflying_> Riddell:  y
[01:27] <freeflying_> Riddell: but it dosen't work
[01:27] <Riddell> Hobbsee: faster internet, but everyone needs that :)
[01:28] <Hobbsee> ah, yes, particularly here in australia...
[01:28] <freeflying_> Riddell: you need more mate for working on kubuntu hmmm
[01:28] <Riddell> ainful
[01:28] <Riddell> yeah, ssh from .au to .uk is quite painful
[01:29] <Riddell> freeflying_: yes please :)
[01:29] <Hobbsee> hehe true
[01:29] <apokryphos> Riddell: you should invest in bulldog ;-)
[01:30] <apokryphos> though their upload is still reasonably pathetic
[01:30] <Riddell> apokryphos: they're london only I think
[01:30] <apokryphos> nope; I know at least nikkia is with them, and she's not in London
[01:31] <apokryphos> https://secure.bulldogbroadband.com/bulldogshoppingcart/CheckNumber.aspx?searchtype=telno
[01:37] <freeflying_> Riddell: will ubuntu use ttf-arphic-uming as default chinese font 
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[01:42] <Riddell> freeflying_: good question, seb128 might be the person to ask
[01:44] <freeflying_> Riddell:  then will kubuntu use skim as default input method 
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[02:33] <jjesse> Riddell: when you get a second can you look at what i have for releasenotes, need to finish it and get it to validate, but i have uploaded a start for dapper
[02:35] <Riddell> jjesse: where are they?
[02:36] <Riddell> freeflying_: I'm not sure about skim as default since non-CJK users don't need it
[02:36] <jjesse> Riddell: should be in trunk/repos/kubuntu/releasenotes/C/releasenotes.xml
[02:36] <jjesse> Riddell: also jsgostanco will be working on the quickguide over the holiday break, and i will be working on the desktop guide
[02:36] <jjesse> Riddell: i will be !internet at my in-laws for a week starting friday night
[02:37] <freeflying_> Riddell: I mean for CJK users
[02:39] <Riddell> freeflying_: I wonder if there's a way for paticular software to be installed depending on the locale
[02:39] <Riddell> I should investigate
[02:39] <Riddell> jjesse: ok, I'll take a look at it in a minute
[02:39] <Riddell> jjesse: rocking
[02:39] <Riddell> jjesse: I'm without internet as well from friday
[02:40] <jjesse> my in-laws don't use thier computer except for checking email every know and then from juno :(
[02:41] <Riddell> quietly install kubuntu on it, they won't notice :)
[02:41] <jjesse> but then the internet wouldn't work, cause they couldn't connect with juno
[02:42] <Riddell> what's juno?
[02:42] <allee> Riddell: stupid question: why saods9 (already in sid/testing/stable not autosync with dapper. has it to go the first time via REVU before autosync?
[02:42] <jjesse> juno is a free ad based internet connection, www.juno.com
[02:43] <jjesse> its dialup
[02:43] <Riddell> yuck
[02:44] <Riddell> allee: no need for revu, it's failed to build http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/s/saods9/4.0b7-1/
[02:45] <allee> thx! checking...
[02:45] <Riddell> frame.C:6:18: error: Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[02:49] <allee> allee: yeah build deps stuff I assume.  I'll fix it.
[02:51] <jjesse> hey there's nothing wrong w/ dialup thats all some of us have 
[02:52] <allee> jjesse: yes
[02:55] <jjesse> allee: yes there is something wrong w/ dial or?
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[02:57] <allee> jjesse: No!  It's the only thing I have over the week end.  (nevertheless it's always a shock form 600Gbit uplink to 64kbit)
[02:57] <allee> 600Mbit of course
[02:57] <jjesse> allee: it's all i have at home, i use internet connection at work to upload doc changes and keep my stystem up to date as well as chat here
[02:58] <allee> jjesse: we have much in common ;)
[02:58] <jjesse> which is why i would prefer to not have a start page for the web browser that would want to check an internet site everytime i open up the browser
[02:58] <jjesse> like start.ubuntu.com 
[02:59] <allee> jjesse: agreed
[03:02] <jjesse> allee: we have had that discussion on the doc channel and list several times and any argument i've had has been shot down :(
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[03:07] <allee> jjesse: problem is that those people have usually DSL.  And are not dialup call-by-call users
[03:08] <jjesse> allee: agreed
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[03:20] <freeflying_> Riddell:  how about your kde
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[03:54] <Riddell> freeflying_: my kde is working fine
[03:54] <Riddell> freeflying_: you say it doesn't work for you on a new install either?  what are you installing from?
[03:55] <freeflying_> Riddell:  I install from 20051219 daily i386 cd
[03:56] <freeflying_> Riddell:  I can not log into desktop using root 
[03:57] <Riddell> don't!
[03:58] <freeflying_> Riddell:  after failing log in using normal user 
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[04:04] <koe1> Any developpers or otherwise experienced people in this channel?
[04:05] <sebas> Guess :)
[04:05] <Riddell> koe1: well, we try :)
[04:05] <sebas> Riddell: Are you going to FOSDEM this year?
[04:05] <sebas> mid-feb it is.
[04:06] <Riddell> sebas: not sure, I'd like to but I've also been invited to OSDW Asia around the same time
[04:06] <sebas> Ah
[04:07] <Riddell> I should poke adyno and see if OSDW Asia is still happening
[04:08] <koe1> Riddell: touchpad issue with the Kubuntu Live DVD (bugzilla #19816)
[04:09] <koe1> Riddell: i boot the live dvd for 5 freakin' minutes, and it renders my hardware useless
[04:09] <koe1> Riddell: it simply stopped working in any OS I tried (all 4 major BSD's, WinXP, Win2000)
[04:10] <Riddell> that is peculiar
[04:10] <koe1> yes, since it is fucking HARDWARE
[04:11] <Riddell> I have no idea how that could be possible
[04:11] <koe1> I don't want to know what the linux developpers actually do with their device-code
[04:11] <koe1> esp. since Xorg handles touchpads flawlessly across all platforms i've come across
[04:11] <Riddell> maybe synaptic touchpads need firmware and the ubuntu firmware somehow broke it, seems unlikely though
[04:12] <Riddell> I'd say you should hunt out some windows drivers for it and (re)install those, see what happens
[04:12] <koe1> well, since there's a bugzilla on it, I'm not the only one
[04:12] <Riddell> ah, you're not the reporter?
[04:12] <koe1> useless, neither Windows nor any other OS actually recognizes a touchpad in my laptop since today
[04:13] <Riddell> sebas: if I am going put me down for a talk on kubuntu in the KDE room
[04:13] <koe1> it could be the ACPI framework which is broken...
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[04:15] <freeflying_> Riddell:  Canoncial has a asia tour in the coming feb ,will thsy advocate kubuntu
[04:16] <Riddell> freeflying_: ooh, where does it say that?
[04:17] <Riddell> for the last tour jdub talked about kubuntu
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[04:18] <Mez> freeflying_, Canonical advocate it anyways, they're doing shipit CDs for it ! w00t
[04:18] <freeflying_> They prepare to meet with some system builer ,government ,etc, in china
[04:18] <Mez> hey Riddell ... guess what ?
[04:18] <flosoft> hey
[04:19] <flosoft> anyone here who succeeded at installing PSI 0.10 Beta 3?
[04:19] <Riddell> Mez: you're going to help us run akademy in glasgow?
[04:19] <Riddell> freeflying_: what is it?
[04:20] <freeflying_> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AsiaBusinessTour
[04:21] <Mez> Riddell: when ?
[04:21] <Mez> and no - I'm actually back permanently, this isnt a flying visit for once :D
[04:21] <Mez> I finally moved house and now have an internet connection
[04:22] <Riddell> freeflying_: you going to any of those?
[04:22] <freeflying_> Riddell:  none
[04:23] <Riddell> freeflying_: it may be that day's CD is just a bad one.  I see today's has some package problems but if you wait a bit I can make a new one and you can rsync it
[04:23] <Riddell> Mez: awooga
[04:23] <Mez> Riddell: i think i oughta update k3b - MOM's bitching at me
[04:23] <freeflying_> Riddell:  but it will not work even after I do upgrade
[04:23] <Mez> we in UVF ye t?
[04:24] <Riddell> Mez: no, another month yet
[04:24] <Mez> ah cool
[04:24] <Mez> we sould be able to push out a late RC of katapult 0.3 then
[04:25] <Riddell> Mez: k3b is actually up to date, all that's needed is syncing changelog entries with debian (I happened to upload before he did)
[04:25] <Mez> Riddell: can I get your approval on the new Icon ?
[04:25] <Mez> http://img497.imageshack.us/full.php?image=katapultrevisedlight8jd.pn
[04:25] <Mez> Riddell: will closing the MOM bug stop it bitching ?
[04:25] <Riddell> Mez: yes I think so
[04:26] <Riddell> koe1: you didn't report that bug?  (I can confirm it if you didn't)
[04:26] <flosoft> anyone here who succeeded at installing PSI 0.10 Beta 3?
[04:26] <koe1> Riddell: no, I need to make an account for bugzilla first
[04:26] <koe1> Riddell: thx for taking an interest.
[04:26] <Riddell> Mez: yeah, looks fine
[04:29] <Riddell> koe1: well I've confirmed it, I think it'll take one of our linux guys to have any better ideas about the cause
[04:29] <Riddell> flosoft: what's that?
[04:30] <flosoft> Riddell: Jabber Client
[04:32] <koe1> Riddell: thanks again
[04:33] <freeflying_> Riddell:  why can't i use kde  even I do upgrade after fresh install ?
[04:35] <sebas> Riddell: Ok, when will you know?
[04:35] <sebas> We need to reserve rooms also, so earlier == better.
[04:35] <sebas> Or will you take care of that yourself?
[04:36] <flosoft> Riddel: Is it possible that QT3-mt has no QTDIR set up?
[04:37] <Riddell> flosoft: oh, you're compiling it?  
[04:37] <Riddell> flosoft: check the debian source package for ./configure arguments maybe
[04:38] <Riddell> sebas: I'll e-mail adyno
[04:38] <sebas> kkdewd ;)
[04:38] <Riddell> freeflying_: not too sure, I'll make a new CD and we can see if that helps
[04:39] <freeflying_> Riddell:  I'll try once again
[04:39] <flosoft> Riddel: how can I set the QT3 variable $QTDIR
[04:39] <flosoft> Riddell: how can I set the QT3 variable $QTDIR
[04:39] <Mez> Riddell: looking better than the old one ?
[04:39] <freeflying_> Riddell: do you remember the patch of qt-immodule
[04:40] <Riddell> Mez: yes
[04:40] <Riddell> freeflying_: that patch is in the qt package now
[04:40] <Mez> Riddell: I'll get beast to sort it out then
[04:40] <freeflying_> Riddell:  great! then I'll build scim-qtimmodule
[04:41] <Riddell> flosoft: from debian/rules in psi
[04:41] <Riddell>         KDEDIR=/usr ./configure --prefix=/usr
[04:41] <Riddell>         QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 $(MAKE)
[04:42] <flosoft> $ ./configure --qtdir=/usr/lib/qt3
[04:42] <freeflying_> Riddell:  will this patch feedback to debian
[04:42] <flosoft> One possible reason is that you don't have
[04:42] <flosoft> libqt-mt.so.3 installed in /usr/lib/qt3/lib/.
[04:42] <flosoft> it still fails
[04:43] <Riddell> freeflying_: if you can confirm to me that it works then I'll tell the debian dudes to include it
[04:43] <Riddell> flosoft: yes, debian (and kubuntu) changes the qt layout to make it follow debian policy
[04:44] <Riddell> flosoft: try the commands that I pasted
[04:45] <flosoft> don't work
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[04:55] <mornfall> arrrrr
[04:56] <Riddell> good morning mornfall 
[05:01] <mornfall> Riddell: evening :)
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[05:35] <robotgeek> Riddell: i'm going to try my luck at a few packages on KubuntuSuggestedPackages later today, will keep you informed of how it goes
[05:35] <Riddell> robotgeek: groovy, let me know what you're going to do
[05:35] <robotgeek> i would like to pick the one with least dependencies :)
[05:37] <robotgeek> i'll pick something easy and package it. like afio 
[05:39] <allee> Riddell, flosoft(gone): IMHO it better to include the long list of configure options generated by debianrules (or used cdbs) used instead of fiddling with QT/KDEDIRDIR
[05:40] <Riddell> robotgeek: we already have a package called afio, not sure if that's the same thing
[05:40] <Riddell> allee: I think he was compiling by hand
[05:40] <robotgeek> Riddell: probably not
[05:40] <robotgeek> i'll compile it by hand to see what options i need, and then put it in /rules
[05:41] <allee> Riddell: no excuse, I had an alias kdeconfigure for this ;)
[05:43] <robotgeek> Riddell: yes, i guess someone got to it already
[06:16] <allee> Riddell: pbuilder is happy with this fix:
[06:17] <allee> --- saods9-4.0b7/make.linux
[06:17] <allee> +++ saods9-4.0b7/make.linux
[06:17] <allee> @@ -6,3 +6,3 @@
[06:17] <allee> -X11INCLUDE=/usr/X11R6/include
[06:17] <allee> +X11INCLUDE=/usr/include/X11
[06:17] <allee>  X11LIB = /usr/X11R6/lib
[06:23] <Riddell> allee: well done.  I wonder what the best way to change that is, no debian/patches yet
[06:23] <allee> Riddell: the old diff if full of tons of modification outside debian/.  So one more can't hurt
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[06:45] <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, if you get a chance, this bug was assigned to kubuntu-team and I uploaded a debdiff, but the source package is in main and needs a main uploader. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/5817
[06:46] <Riddell> allee: uploaded thanks
[06:46] <allee> Riddell: I've to thank you
[06:55] <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: +Categories=Qt;KDE;Application;Development;  it's not KDE :)
[06:56] <seth_k|lappy> oh tch, serves me right for blindly copying and pasting what he put. I noticed the others had only Qt;Development;
[06:56] <seth_k|lappy> sorry
[07:00] <Riddell> patching 
[07:05] <Riddell> seth_k|lappy: uploaded, thanks, you can mark as closed in 3.3.5-1ubuntu5
[07:05] <seth_k|lappy> thanks a lot :)
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[09:13] <jjesse> thanks to everyone that recomened qemu for a virtual machine of kbuntu for documentation, i have it up and work 
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[10:08] <Tonio__> Riddell: new version of knetdockapp uploaded, with pot file generation :)
[10:18] <allee> jjesse: can you start an KDE session in qemu?
[10:19] <jjesse> allee: yeah the cd i had on me was the live cd, so it worked perfectly
[10:19] <allee> jjesse: thx.
[10:19] <jjesse> allee: you know how to setup qemu?
[10:20] <allee> apt-cache show qemu is all I know right now ;)
[10:20] <jjesse> i just googled qemu ubuntu
[10:20] <jjesse> http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.21
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[10:26] <jjesse> allee: that's the link i used
[10:26] <allee> jjesse: reading it currently.
[10:26] <allee> jjesse: is kqemu included in the dapper pkg?
[10:26] <jjesse> i don't know i didn't use it to be honest
[10:27] <allee> jjesse: ah
[10:27] <jjesse> allee:  i typed first qemu-img create qemu_basic.img 3G
[10:27] <jjesse> allee: followed by qemu -hda qemu_basic.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d -m 192
[10:28] <allee> 'lemme try.
[10:29] <jjesse> there is probablly a better way to do it
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[10:37] <jjesse> allee: did you get it to work?
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[10:44] <allee> jjesse: installing breezy.  Nice!
[10:45] <jjesse> allee: yeah i thought so, it even works w/ the live cds
[10:45] <jjesse> i would assume it would work w/ an iso if i read correctly, so i wouldn't have to burn the cd each time
[10:50] <jjesse> allee: did you compile qemu and kqemu or jsut go with apt-get install qemu?
[10:51] <allee> jjesse: apt-get'ed.
[11:01] <_Sime> So, who here is going to FOSDEM 2006? and if not, what is your excuse?
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