[12:03] <_nano_> kakei: i got a similar error...particular after i upgraded to 3.5
[12:03] <Lacerta> how do i make a directory in shell?
[12:03] <_nano_> Lacerta: mkdir directoryname
[12:03] <Lacerta> thx
[12:04] <kakei> _nano_ can u describe me ur error
[12:04] <_nano_> kakei: just after upgrading when I logged out I got this kdmgreet error
[12:04] <kakei> same here
[12:04] <kakei> how did u solve it?
[12:04] <kakei> sudo aptitude reinstall kdm?
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: I rebooted and logged in through console
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: did startx
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: got kde running
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: upgraded kdm or something...
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: using adept
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: and then it worked
[12:06] <Lacerta> is there a way to save shell output?
[12:06] <_nano_> Lacerta: you could copy paste?
[12:06] <Lacerta> _nano_: i'm not in graphical mode
[12:07] <_nano_> Lacerta: you could redirect the output to a file
[12:07] <Lacerta> hwo do i do that`?
[12:07] <Lacerta> aah
[12:07] <Lacerta> got it
[12:08] <_nano_> Lacerta: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/io-redirection.html
[12:08] <Lacerta> okay, now i definitely got it :)
[12:09] <Lacerta> i'm trying to figure out why do I have to install nVidia's driver every time I boot my PC
[12:12] <kakei> _nano_
[12:12] <kakei> i reinstalled kdm but same
[12:12] <kakei> =(
[12:12] <_nano_> kakei: how did you reinstall?
[12:13] <_nano_> kakei: do you get the kdm screen ?
[12:13] <_nano_> kakei: on reboot?
[12:13] <kakei> yes
[12:13] <kakei> but tell me the same
[12:13] <kakei> kdmgreet .
[12:13] <_nano_> kakei: so it threw you back to console mode?
[12:14] <kakei> yes
[12:14] <Lacerta> what's the command to create a file?
[12:15] <kakei> kate filename.extension
[12:15] <_nano_> kakei: Lacerta doesn't seem to have X :P
[12:15] <kakei> nao
[12:15] <_nano_> Lacerta: nano
[12:15] <kakei> nano
[12:16] <Lacerta> huh?
[12:16] <kakei> _nano_ help me =(
[12:16] <_nano_> !nano
[12:16] <ubotu> _nano_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:16] <_nano_> kakei: use adept?
[12:16] <kakei> synaptic
[12:16] <_nano_> kakei: see what it says for kdm? is it upgradable?
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: actually the kde3.5 upgrade somehow skipped the kdm upgrade for me...
[12:17] <kakei> how do i know if it's upgradeable?
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: it says so in synaptic or adept.
[12:17] <kakei> if have an star is upgradeable?
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: yeah
[12:17] <kakei> hmm yes its upgradeable
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: so upgrade it
[12:18] <_nano_> !info nano
[12:18] <ubotu> nano: (free Pico clone with some new features), section editors, is standard. Version: 1.3.8-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 232 kB, Installed size: 1268 kB
[12:18] <kakei> _nano_ upgrade done i think
[12:19] <_nano_> kakei: restart?
[12:19] <kakei> k brb
[12:19] <yanqi> hi
[12:20] <yanqi> i'm lookin for the initrd file from the kubuntu flight-2 iso. it would spare me to download the entire iso just for one file
[12:22] <kakei> _nano_ thanks
[12:22] <_nano_> kakei: works? :P
[12:22] <kakei> es
[12:22] <kakei> yes
[12:22] <dante_> the mplayer site down for anyone else?
[12:22] <_nano_> kakei: i think some more packages would be upgradable
[12:22] <_nano_> kakei: like kopete etc...
[12:23] <_nano_> kakei: you might wanna check synaptic
[12:23] <kakei> nano how can i put all the KDE default the fonts looks messed
[12:26] <kakei> _nano_ marking all the upgrade's will be easier not?
[12:26] <_nano_> kakei: didn't get you?
[12:27] <_nano_> kakei: elaborate a bit
[12:27] <kakei> _nano_ can u make me a big favor? can u host to my a screenshot ok kcontrol on Fonts tab? pls :)
[12:28] <_nano_> kakei: lol
[12:28] <_nano_> kakei: fonts a large?
[12:28] <kakei> yo ccan save a life
[12:28] <kakei> :)
[12:28] <_nano_> kakei: okies
[12:28] <kakei> Fonts
[12:28] <kakei> general,fixed..etc
[12:29] <_nano_> kakei: provided you like my settings lol
[12:30] <kakei> http://imageshack.us for host the image
[12:31] <Hobbsee> there's screenshots in the pastebin, too
[12:31] <kakei> didnt know ehe
[12:32] <_nano_> !pastebin
[12:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:33] <_nano_> kakei: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5970
[12:34] <djk_> _nano_: i suppose you could have just told him 'default'...
[12:35] <_nano_> djk_: my font settings were changed when i upgraded kdm
[12:35] <_nano_> djk_: so i assumed kakei's would be as well
[12:36] <kakei> i will reboot X brb
[12:37] <kakei> back
[12:39] <_nano_> kakei: why did you have to restart X ?
[12:41] <kakei> to turn on my
[12:41] <kakei> sharpering font
[12:42] <_nano_> kakei: aah
[12:44] <kakei> _nano_ :)!
[12:44] <kakei> heh can u show me ur desktop? ehehe
[12:45] <djk_> _nano_: you use kde3.5 don't you? official or the kubuntupackage?
[12:45] <_nano_> djk_: yeah i followed the announcement in the kubuntu wepage
[12:45] <_nano_> kakei: lot's of secret stuff..sorry :P
[12:46] <_nano_> kakei: me working for cia lol
[12:46] <kakei> ahaha
[12:46] <djk_> _nano_: okay, so one can fairly assume that they won't rape kcontrol again..
[12:47] <_nano_> djk_: who won't? kubuntu guys?
[12:47] <_nano_> djk_: how would I know :P
[12:48] <djk_> _nano_: yes.. i dislike 'System Settings' instead of the Control Center :)
[12:48] <djk_> apokryphos: well, you're weird :p
[12:52] <djk_> apokryphos: but why do you prefer it?
[12:52] <Serberus> why did they bother with System settings anyway, trying to simplify things?
[12:52] <apokryphos> djk_: clearer overview, more aesthetically pleasing. I like the integration it uses, disliked the old tree-view
[12:53] <apokryphos> and wasn't a fan of the alternative icon view so much
[12:53] <Serberus> i just tweaked desktop settings a bit and now Azureus has gone funky and disappeared off my desktop :S
[12:53] <apokryphos> prime opportunity to discover KTorrent ;-)
[12:54] <djk_> or bittornado
[12:54] <Serberus> i'm used to Azureus from windows. i could use some super karamba action tho to see how much RAM i'm using etc
[12:55] <seth_k|lappy> Serberus, fantastik is what you want
[12:55] <seth_k|lappy> Serberus, it's a nice SuperK theme
[12:56] <Serberus> thanks, i'll check it out
[12:57] <seth_k|lappy> Serberus, I highly suggest poking into the .theme file and adjusting the colors to suit; it's very easy to understand
[12:58] <apokryphos> Azureus will eat your CPU in courses :P
[12:58] <_nano_> Azureus is java based right?
[12:59] <Serberus> yup
[12:59] <Serberus> it's pretty memory hungry as a consequence
[01:00] <Serberus> does bittornado support multiple torrents? it's shadow client re-branded?
[01:00] <Serberus> shadow's*
[01:01] <djk_> bittornado supports multiple torrents.. no idea about the latter.
[01:02] <man2d> !seen z-vet
[01:02] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'z-vet', man2d
[01:02] <man2d> !seen digitall
[01:02] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'digitall', man2d
[01:03] <man2d> !seen z-*
[01:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'z-*', man2d
[01:03] <man2d> stupid bot =)
[01:04] <sampan> what's a good ogg ripper program for kde?  preferably one that will let me easily set different quality levels
[01:07] <angasule> dapper = testing version of kubuntu?
[01:07] <_sparrow> hello channel 
[01:08] <Hobbsee> angasule: yes
[01:08] <angasule> thanks, Hobbsee
[01:08] <Hobbsee> it's not supposed to be stable till april next year
[01:08] <man2d> Hobbsee: is it very buggy?
[01:08] <angasule> ah, can't wait for KDE 3.5
[01:09] <man2d> angasule: KDE 3.5 is already available in repositary
[01:09] <Hobbsee> man2d: depends on the day lol - it can be
[01:09] <angasule> sampan: have you tried kaudiocreator?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> seems ok today
[01:09] <angasule> what's the package name? kde35?
[01:09] <man2d> Hobbsee: =)
[01:09] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[01:09] <ubotu> I guess kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:09] <man2d> angasule: http://kubuntu.org - see the news
[01:09] <sampan> angasule  nope -- just toying with the idea of converting all my mp3s to ogg and wondering what apps are recommended for ripping cds into ogg
[01:10] <angasule> but it mentions dapper in that same release
[01:11] <man2d> and what is the principal difference?
[01:11] <_sparrow> can someone help me wirth the rsolution/size of the tty-terminals?
[01:11] <angasule> sampan: umh, you mean re-ripping audio CDs into ogg, right? converting from mp3 to ogg is a bad idea
[01:11] <angasule> man2d: stability
[01:11] <sampan> angasule  yep, that's what i said: "ripping cds into ogg"
[01:12] <angasule> ouchs
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: I do have one issue I notice with 3.5 - the only filetype preview that works is images, no sound, no pdf, no textfiles. etc.
[01:23] <sampan> heh, kde has some nice stuff: konq rips into flac/ogg/mp3 (and can even do album as one continuous file) -- on the downside, even the kde org's help webpage doesn't display quite right on my konq
[01:34] <djk_> where are usb systems like mp3players mounted?
[01:34] <bimberi> djk_: /media usually
[01:35] <djk_> bimberi: yea.. usually..
[01:35] <bimberi> djk_: df ?
[01:36] <djk_> bimberi: sda1 apparently..
[01:37] <bimberi> djk_: oh yes, sloppy first answer (sorry) - should have been /media/<something> :)
[01:38] <djk_> bimberi: mmh, weird, i can't delete mp3s off of it
[01:39] <djk_> any idea why or what i can do?
[01:40] <kakei> any one know how to install PhotoShop with wine in Kubuntu?
[01:41] <manveru> !wine
[01:41] <bimberi> djk_: when i delete, the files get put in a .Trash (or the like) directory on the player (emptying the trash does the job)
[01:41] <bimberi> s/does/completes/
[01:41] <manveru> ubotu: tell kakei about wine
[01:42] <kakei> manveru i have wine but no idea of how to install PhotoShop
[01:42] <djk_> bimberi: heh, weird.. apparently it's readonly.. wasn't the last time
[01:42] <djk_> even weirder that i already deleted one file..
[01:42] <kakei> hey the image of k7 kernel allow u to use 386.deb 586.deb and 686.deb files?
[01:43] <djk_> bimberi: how do i mount rw?
[01:43] <djk_> and what's the 'safely remove' option good for, if only root can do it..
[01:45] <bimberi> djk_: i'm not aware of the safely remove optio, "mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1" ?
[01:46] <bimberi> *^n
[01:48] <djk_> bimberi: thanks.. and the safely remove option was given in konqueror..
[01:49] <bimberi> djk_: yw :) - i have to admit i'm a gnome (hence nautilus) user :)
[01:50] <djk_> bimberi: i usually use krusader :)
[01:52] <Snake__> dead room
[01:52] <Hobbsee> not really
[01:52] <Snake__> Hobbsee no ones talking...
[01:52] <Hobbsee> true
[01:52] <Hobbsee> still people in here though
[01:53] <Snake__> So....they are all dead
[01:53] <Snake__> :-P
[01:53] <Hobbsee> mmm
[01:53] <xtacocorex> i haven't figured out what to ask
[01:53] <Snake__> lol
[01:54] <Hobbsee> nah, dont do that...
[01:54] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:54] <xtacocorex> bimberi: how do you get text like that?
[01:54] <Hobbsee> already had some kicking practice
[01:54] <bimberi> Hobbsee: /msg ubotu kops
[01:54] <Hobbsee> xtacocorex: type /me blah
[01:54] <bimberi> /me considers....
[01:54] <xtacocorex> ah
[01:54] <xtacocorex> thanks
[01:54] <xtacocorex> i've seen people use it, but never figured it out
[01:54] <Hobbsee> yeah, true
[01:55] <xtacocorex> well dinner, be back
[01:56] <Hal9000> i have the 64 bit version... how do i listen to wma files? where are the codecs?
[01:57] <Hal9000> sorry wrong channel :P
[02:03] <kkathman> howdy LeeJunFan :)
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> hiya
[02:19] <yanqi> i've installed ubuntu but i prefer kde, is there a way to install kubuntu without having to burn a cd and you know
[02:19] <bimberi> yanqi: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <yanqi> bimberi, will it erase automatically everything from gnome ?
[02:21] <bimberi> yanqi: no, you'll have a dual install and can choose either from the Sessions menu on the login screen
[02:22] <yanqi> bimberi, but it would be possible to erase and purge bloated gnome outta ma hard drive ?
[02:22] <yanqi> like aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:23] <bimberi> yanqi: no, that will just remove the 37KB metapackage - and not the dependencies
[02:23] <yanqi> damn
[02:24] <yanqi> bimberi, thanks a lot for the tip anyway
[02:24] <bimberi> yanqi: there might be a "deeper" package you can remove (like removing libqt3-mt will take out kde)
[02:24] <douglas> Klik seems to be working fine on Kubuntu except one thing, I can't move the files from my desktop :(.
[02:25] <yanqi> bimberi, i would like to install kubuntu by iso but my cd drive is down
[02:27] <douglas> yanqi: seems to me you would need one to install by iso
[02:27] <douglas> sorry
[02:28] <yanqi> yeah i know.. i've been able to install ubuntu by netinstall with grub and the breezt initrd, but there's no such file for kubuntu
[02:29] <bimberi> yanqi: removing libglib2.0-0 would get rid of gnome (and probably more besides) :)
[02:30] <yanqi> bimberi, i'm going to try.. thanks again all
[02:30] <bimberi> yanqi: np :)
[03:08] <Spandexx> hi guys
[03:08] <Spandexx> need help with KDE vs NIC card
[03:08] <Spandexx> ;)
[03:08] <Spandexx> I can not enable my NIC (3) with KDE (know bug on bugtrack)
[03:08] <Spandexx> how can I do that with command line.
[03:08] <Spandexx> searched and found nothing ;)
[03:09] <Spandexx> the cards are working fine in Ubuntu Breezy
[03:09] <Spandexx> hello...
[03:12] <robotgeek> Spandexx: ethernet card, you mean
[03:13] <Spandexx> yes
[03:13] <Spandexx> ;)
[03:13] <robotgeek> Spandexx: can you link me to the bug?
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> NIC == network interface card btw.
[03:13] <Spandexx> humm wait I will try
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> Spandexx: 'man interfaces' will give you the manpage for configuring your NIC's with the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[03:15] <Spandexx> humm ok
[03:16] <Spandexx> I can not find the note in Bugtrack
[03:16] <Spandexx> but this is no solution for now
[03:17] <Spandexx> I see in KDE that the nic is there but is disable
[03:18] <Spandexx> already configured for DHCP
[03:18] <Spandexx> on my PIX
[03:18] <robotgeek> Spandexx: it should work, try sudo ifup eth0
[03:19] <Spandexx> perfect ;)
[03:19] <Spandexx> I will try it
[03:20] <Spandexx> I will be back ;)
[03:20] <Spandexx> thanks robo
[03:20] <kakei> hey guys
[03:21] <kakei> can u help me
[03:21] <kakei> my PC reboot
[03:21] <kakei> himself
[03:23] <sorush20> how can I access the system settings as root rather than having to click on the administrator button
[03:23] <sorush20> ?
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sorush20: alt+f2,kdesu system settings
[03:26] <sorush20> Hobbsee: I keep gettting the message that it doesn't exsist..
[03:26] <Hobbsee> sorush20: alt+f2, kdesu kcontrol
[03:26] <Hobbsee> see if that one does
[03:26] <robotgeek> hey Hobbsee
[03:27] <Hobbsee> hi robotgeek
[03:29] <buddha> long time gentoo users here, just gotta give kudos to someone out there that this is one slick distro... that was all
[03:30] <robotgeek> buddha: hmm, i started using kubuntu yesterday
[03:30] <buddha> oh yea?
[03:31] <buddha> i'm just happy that everything just works w/ my laptop
[03:31] <robotgeek> i was using ubuntu before
[03:31] <robotgeek> with a lot of kde apps, so i put one machine completely on kubuntu
[03:32] <buddha> gnome/kde.. i use little of both worlds, but like the look of kde a bit more
[03:33] <buddha> both are great, just comes down to preference i guess
[03:38] <swim> hey folks, Im trying to fix that firefox annoyance, where /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html isn't found everytime firefox is started... supposedly according to: http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs%40lists.ubuntu.com/msg01907.html  there should be a newer version of kubuntu-docs that fixes this, but I can't find a newer version...
[03:46] <Absolute0> which package do i need to install to swithc from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> gnome ?
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde
[03:48] <robotgeek> Absolute0: you can install kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> ah
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> to swtich from
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> damn, i need glasses:)
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> sorry, my bad
[03:48] <Absolute0> i am on kubuntu
[03:48] <bimberi> s/k//
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> sorry, Im confused
[03:49] <Absolute0> i dont think kubunutu-desktop will do much
[03:49] <bimberi> Absolute0: ubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <Absolute0> right...
[03:49] <Absolute0> thats 100 meg
[03:49] <Absolute0> shit
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> yeah :)
[03:49] <bimberi> dialup?
[03:49] <Absolute0> dsl
[03:49] <Absolute0> =(
[03:49] <kakei> any one can help me? when i join my PC as normal user it reboot everytime (actually i'm in recovery mode)
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> 100MB is not much
[03:49] <Absolute0> about 30 min
[03:50] <Absolute0> is it worth it?
[03:50] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, if you want gnome
[03:50] <robotgeek> kakei: the log is in /var/log/Xorg.log
[03:50] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, gnome feels like sirup
[03:50] <bimberi> Absolute0: no (in this channel) yes (in #ubuntu) :P
[03:50] <Absolute0> what does that mean
[03:50] <robotgeek> Absolute0: this is #kubuntu :)
[03:50] <Absolute0> i know
[03:50] <Absolute0> they're both same shit
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> KDE is just faster
[03:51] <Absolute0> it is?
[03:51] <robotgeek> Absolute0: yes, except the gui
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, jepp
[03:51] <Absolute0> i thought its the other way around...
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, it isnt for me
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, if you want GUI speed, install fluxbox
[03:51] <Absolute0> would you know why all my letters seem a little lurry on kubuntu?
[03:52] <robotgeek> i have them both, i don't see anything blazingly fast (except konqueror, whic rips)
[03:52] <kakei> robotgeek my log is big do u want to see it ?
[03:52] <robotgeek> kakei: please put it on pastebin
[03:52] <Absolute0> would you know why all my letters seem a little lurry on kubuntu?
[03:53] <robotgeek> Absolute0: are you on lcd/crt?
[03:53] <Absolute0> crt
[03:53] <kakei> robotgeek http://pastebin.com/472605
[03:53] <Absolute0> letters in knosole overlap
[03:53] <robotgeek> Absolute0: just change the font, to monospace
[03:53] <Absolute0> oh right
[03:53] <Absolute0> let me give it a shot
[03:54] <Absolute0> i was thinking of getting the "times new roman" font
[03:54] <Absolute0> which is the default windows one
[03:54] <robotgeek> kakei: your x seems to have loaded fine
[03:54] <kakei> =((
[03:54] <robotgeek> kakei: did you say that it boots fine, and then reboot?
[03:54] <robotgeek> Absolute0: that font is overrated :)
[03:54] <kakei> robotgeek yes
[03:55] <Absolute0> i dont have monospace
[03:55] <Absolute0> =(
[03:55] <kakei> but is weird because as recovery mode (root too) when i type startx don't reboot.
[03:55] <robotgeek> kakei: it just reboots, hmm..weird
[03:55] <Absolute0> nevermind
[03:55] <Absolute0> found it=)
[03:57] <robotgeek> brb
[03:59] <Absolute0> can i get times new roman?
[04:00] <robotgeek> Absolute0: apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:00] <Absolute0> on linux
[04:00] <Mr-Falkor> Anyone livin in US ?
[04:00] <robotgeek> Absolute0: universe repository
[04:00] <robotgeek> Mr-Falkor: hmm, yes
[04:00] <Absolute0> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[04:00] <robotgeek> Absolute0: one sec
[04:01] <Mr-Falkor> robotgeek, ok, I have a new project - fart in a bottle and send it to me (EU/Norway), and then Im gonna smell out of the bottle when I get it - and then document it .
[04:01] <Absolute0> i uncommentd universe
[04:01] <robotgeek> Absolute0: sorry, multiverse
[04:01] <swim> hey folks, Im trying to fix that firefox annoyance, where /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html isn't found everytime firefox is started... supposedly according to: http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs%40lists.ubuntu.com/msg01907.html  there should be a newer version of kubuntu-docs that fixes this, but I can't find a newer version...
[04:01] <robotgeek> Mr-Falkor: can you take this in #-offtopic
[04:02] <Absolute0> that too i think
[04:02] <Mr-Falkor> robotgeek, sure- thnx anyway
[04:03] <robotgeek> swim: can you just set your start page to something else?
[04:04] <swim> robotgeek: well yes, but i believe that the firefox "button" (top right that usually when you click takes you to firefox's site) is also directed to that file...
[04:04] <robotgeek> swim: hmm, one second. i am reading
[04:04] <Absolute0> i got these 2 line: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:04] <Absolute0> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:04] <Absolute0> is that a type?
[04:04] <Absolute0> *typo
[04:04] <swim> but i suppose that is less important robotgeek
[04:05] <Absolute0> oh nevermind!!!
[04:05] <Absolute0> sorry
[04:05] <robotgeek> swim: are you asking about the update to kubuntu-docs
[04:05] <robotgeek> package, i mean
[04:05] <swim> robotgeek: yes
[04:06] <Absolute0> is it unsafe to just uncomment all the repositories in that file?
[04:06] <robotgeek> swim: apparently, it is fixed in dapper, but will be coming to breezy-updates soon
[04:06] <robotgeek> Absolute0: no, it's safe. but you might be installing non-free packages
[04:06] <swim> robotgeek: oh ok, not there yet then. thx
[04:06] <robotgeek> swim: yes, right now you can fix it by symlinking, apparently
[04:06] <swim> right
[04:06] <difeta> how can i change my password in the kwallet manager?
[04:07] <robotgeek> swim: do you want to do that ? :)
[04:07] <Absolute0> whats a non-free package?
[04:07] <swim> robotgeek: i might do it later, i've read the bug fix for that already thx
[04:08] <robotgeek> Absolute0: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[04:08] <Absolute0> ok after uncomenting everything i still get:E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[04:08] <robotgeek> swim: hmm, okay
[04:08] <Absolute0> i did update too
[04:08] <robotgeek> Absolute0: you need to apt-get update first
[04:08] <robotgeek> Absolute0: msttcorefonts shows up in multiverse for me
[04:09] <Absolute0> did u spell it correctly: msttcorefonts
[04:09] <manveru> !info msttcorefonts
[04:09] <robotgeek> Absolute0: i'm copy pasting :)
[04:09] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[04:09] <Absolute0> apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[04:09] <Absolute0> openoffice.org2 - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[04:09] <Absolute0> openoffice.org - high-quality office productivity suite
[04:09] <robotgeek> manveru: ty
[04:09] <Absolute0> thats it...
[04:10] <robotgeek> Absolute0: multiverse
[04:10] <robotgeek> hmm, i gotta go and cook food. later ppl
[04:11] <demon71> Anyone help with video issue? "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)"
[04:11] <Absolute0> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[04:11] <Absolute0> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:11] <Absolute0> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:11] <Absolute0> see they're not commented
[04:11] <Absolute0> =(
[04:11] <robotgeek> Absolute0: weird
[04:11] <swim> hrmm im getting an error trying to compile baghira-cvs, during make... could someone have a look? : http://pastebin.ca/34425
[04:11] <Absolute0> let me try synaptic
[04:11] <EricCartman> Is there a reason why there isn't a MySQL 5 package yet
[04:12] <kalenedrael> Yeah, the developers/maintainers haven't come out with it?
[04:16] <swim> nm got that sorry just being stupid
[04:16] <kakei> sthk
[04:19] <M_Cheevy> heya ppl.. having a couple of problems with automounting of cdroms/dvds... all of my multimedia apps are happy with the automounting except totem (and dvdrip)... also I can't eject the disks or unmount them?  is there a good document relating to this.. I'm on page 10 of a google search and I'm not finding anything specific to my issue
[04:28] <Absolute0> i've just installed cabextract which came with msttcorefonts
[04:28] <Absolute0> how do use it now?
[04:28] <Absolute0> its not coming up in setting fonts
[04:28] <Absolute0> *settings->fonts
[04:28] <Absolute0> do i need to reboot?
[04:32] <Flying_Eagle> Absolute0, you only have to reboot when you changed your kernel
[04:32] <Absolute0> right
[04:33] <Absolute0> so how do i swithch to times new roman?
[04:33] <Absolute0> can this be the problem: warning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory
[04:34] <Absolute0> Setting up msttcorefonts (1.2) ...
[04:34] <Absolute0> warning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory
[04:34] <Absolute0> These fonts were provided by Microsoft "in the interest of cross-
[04:34] <Absolute0> platform compatibility".  This is no longer the case, but they are
[04:34] <Absolute0> still available from third parties.
[04:34] <Absolute0> You are free to download these fonts and use them for your own use,
[04:34] <Absolute0> but you may not redistribute them in modified form, including changes
[04:34] <Absolute0> to the file name or packaging format.
[04:34] <Absolute0> All fonts downloaded and installed.
[04:34] <Absolute0> sorry
[04:35] <nalioth> Absolute0: pasting is rude. we have the irc channel #flood or multiple pastebins
[04:35] <Absolute0> wont happen again
[04:36] <Absolute0> how can i load the new times roman font?
[04:36] <nalioth> Absolute0: put it in ~/.fonts
[04:36] <Absolute0> oh
[04:37] <Absolute0> mine is empty
[04:37] <Absolute0> =)
[04:41] <robotgeek> i'll brb
[04:56] <taojah> hello
[04:56] <taojah> anyone here
[04:57] <nalioth> yes
[04:57] <taojah> can you please help me with a noob question
[04:57] <taojah> To load a new theme, download the .theme file into ~/.irssi
[04:57] <taojah> what does this mean
[04:57] <taojah> how do it do it literally
[04:57] <taojah> right click/save target as?
[04:57] <taojah> i dunno
[04:58] <nalioth> taojah: i have lots of answers, that will probably seem unrelated to your question, but will help you immensely in the future
[04:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell taojah about cli
[04:58] <nalioth> the bot has sent you some info
[04:59] <nalioth> i suggest you d/l the blah.theme to your homedir or Desktop or wherever you usually d/l things to, and use the konsole to mv it into the .irssi dir
[05:00] <taojah> ok can you tell me how to get into the .irssi dir please
[05:00] <taojah> thats the part i cant figure out
[05:02] <nalioth> taojah: in the konsole, type "ls -a" and it should present itself to you
[05:03] <taojah> ok
[05:03] <taojah> that shows me .irssi
[05:06] <taojah> how do i open the directory
[05:06] <saikim> minghua here?
[05:06] <xtacocorex> taojah: if you're in konsole, type cd .irssi
[05:07] <spandexx> hi guys
[05:07] <spandexx> NIC 1 is working ;)
[05:07] <xtacocorex> taojah: cd is change directory
[05:07] <robotgeek> spandexx: good to hear :)
[05:07] <spandexx> I need help for my WLAN NIC ;)
[05:07] <saikim> i wanna to ask how to fix the scim bug!
[05:07] <taojah> ok what next
[05:07] <spandexx> I am installing KDE 3.5 and I fully update Breezy
[05:08] <robotgeek> spandexx: which wireless card  do you have?
[05:08] <xtacocorex> taojah: i don't know what you're trying to do, i just saw that you needed help getting into a directory
[05:08] <spandexx> IBM ThinkPad R51
[05:08] <spandexx> the card with  Ubuntu but not in Kubuntu
[05:08] <taojah> i need to open then directory on my desktop
[05:08] <taojah> as a folder
[05:08] <taojah> to drag soemthing there
[05:09] <spandexx> if I go on the GUI it doesn,t let met activate the carde
[05:09] <spandexx> card
[05:09] <robotgeek> spandexx: is that what the card is called? please paste the output of "lspci -v" to the pastebin
[05:09] <xtacocorex> taojah: i'd open up konqueror and browse to the .irssi directory
[05:09] <taojah> just type .irssi/directory  ?
[05:10] <xtacocorex> taojah: the .irssi would have to be appended to the path in the address bar of konqueror
[05:10] <taojah> oh gosh
[05:10] <taojah> isnt there something easy
[05:10] <spandexx> 000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [F
[05:10] <taojah> to open the folder
[05:10] <spandexx> asterNet]  (rev 20)
[05:10] <spandexx>         Subsystem: Unknown device 0a00:2114
[05:10] <spandexx>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[05:10] <xtacocorex> taojah: do you know the whole path to the .irssi directory?
[05:10] <spandexx>         I/O ports at e800 [size=128] 
[05:10] <spandexx>         Memory at febfc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[05:10] <spandexx>         Expansion ROM at febfe000 [disabled]  [size=2K] 
[05:10] <spandexx> 0000:00:0a.1 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [F                                           asterNet]  (rev 20)
[05:10] <spandexx>         Subsystem: Unknown device 0a01:2114
[05:11] <spandexx>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[05:11] <spandexx>         I/O ports at e880 [size=128] 
[05:11] <spandexx>         Memory at febfd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[05:11] <spandexx>         Expansion ROM at febfe800 [disabled]  [size=2K] 
[05:11] <spandexx> 0000:00:0a.2 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [F                                           asterNet]  (rev 20)
[05:11] <xtacocorex> spandexx: use a pastebin
[05:11] <spandexx>         Subsystem: Unknown device 0a02:2114
[05:11] <spandexx>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[05:11] <spandexx>         I/O ports at ec00 [size=128] 
[05:11] <spandexx>         Memory at febff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[05:11] <spandexx>         Expansion ROM at febfe800 [disabled]  [size=2K] 
[05:11] <spandexx> oups
[05:11] <spandexx> sorry guys
[05:11] <xtacocorex> spandexx: it's all good
[05:11] <taojah> xtacore this is all i know i have to do ::  Usage: Copy the .theme file to ~/.irssi/ directory, change the theme with /SET theme theme_name
[05:11] <spandexx> hummm
[05:12] <xtacocorex> taojah: in konsole type the following: kfmclient exec ~/.irssi
[05:12] <spandexx> I can not go active the card on th GUI ---- in Ubuntu it worked ..so I know the card works
[05:12] <spandexx> but I want Kubuntu ;)
[05:12] <robotgeek> spandexx: pastebin please?
[05:13] <taojah> ok then what
[05:13] <spandexx> robot: what do you mean by pastebin
[05:13] <taojah> that shows the config
[05:13] <taojah> on a piece of paper
[05:13] <robotgeek> spandexx: /topic
[05:13] <robotgeek> spandexx: if you paste your config there, maybe we can show it to everybody else too
[05:13] <xtacocorex> taojah: drag the .theme file to that location in konqueror
[05:13] <spandexx> I have paste it on the channel ;)
[05:14] <spandexx> I dont want to flood the channnel... and be kicked ;)
[05:14] <taojah> ok
[05:14] <taojah> thats it?
[05:14] <xtacocorex> taojah: are you running irssi at the moment?
[05:14] <robotgeek> spandexx: no, paste in #flood
[05:14] <robotgeek> spandexx: why can't you paste in a pastebin?
[05:15] <taojah> xtacore yes
[05:15] <taojah> ./SET theme theme_name
[05:15] <taojah> whats the _ for
[05:15] <xtacocorex> taojah: in the window that you type messages to in irrsi type /SET theme <theme_name>, replace <theme_name> with the one you want
[05:16] <taojah> ./SET theme spot
[05:16] <taojah> ok
[05:16] <spandexx> done
[05:16] <taojah> done :)
[05:16] <xtacocorex> taojah: it work?
[05:16] <taojah> yep :)
[05:16] <xtacocorex> taojah: nice
[05:16] <taojah> how do i make the shell fullscreen
[05:17] <taojah> how do i make the shell(window) fullscreen
[05:17] <xtacocorex> taojah: for konsole, i think hit F11 when the window is selected
[05:17] <spandexx> root@HULK:/etc/apt# ifup eth1
[05:17] <spandexx> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[05:17] <taojah> nope :(
[05:18] <xtacocorex> taojah: let me check quick
[05:18] <taojah> hey xtacoco do you know how to disable join/part/quit messages in irssi
[05:18] <spandexx> so robo what do you thing
[05:18] <taojah> ok thanks :)
[05:18] <spandexx> think
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: the key combo is: ctrl+shift+F
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: i don't use irssi, so i had to figure what it was while helping you
[05:19] <taojah> coool
[05:19] <taojah> wow
[05:19] <taojah> thanks alot
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: np
[05:19] <taojah> i appreciate it
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: you get konsole resized?
[05:19] <taojah> yep
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: nice
[05:20] <taojah> full screen now
[05:20] <taojah> i just want to get rid of join/part/quit messages now
[05:20] <taojah> :)
[05:20] <taojah> then its perfect
[05:20] <robotgeek> taojah: /ignore #channel JOINS PARTS QUITS
[05:21] <xtacocorex> taojah: after looking at the website, i might download and try it out
[05:21] <spandexx> must be an interfaces files problem
[05:21] <spandexx> I will paste it to #flood
[05:22] <robotgeek> spandexx: okay, i will join :)
[05:23] <xtacocorex> taojah: try this page: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup, it might have something
[05:23] <robotgeek> spandexx: your wireless interface is missing
[05:24] <spandexx> oups
[05:24] <spandexx> lol
[05:24] <spandexx> I think it is the file that muss param
[05:24] <spandexx> yep i think
[05:24] <robotgeek> taojah: or you can /help <command>
[05:25] <spandexx> how do i do that ;)
[05:25] <spandexx> map eth0
[05:25] <spandexx> # The primary network interface
[05:25] <spandexx> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:25] <taojah> thanks :)
[05:25] <robotgeek> spandexx: don't paste in here
[05:26] <spandexx> map eth1  iface eth1 inet dhcp ^
[05:26] <spandexx> ok sorry robo
[05:26] <robotgeek> spandexx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:26] <xtacocorex> taojah: after looking at that page, i'm not sure anything there relates to what you want, but that was a quick scan, but try this command in the window: /SET activity_hide_targets
[05:26] <spandexx> and I have another NIC (Xircom card)
[05:27] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: the /ignore works perfectly, i use it :)
[05:27] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: ah, thanks
[05:27] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: does that work in gaim also?
[05:28] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: ohh, i tht irssi
[05:28] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: i have never used gaim irc since i can't ssh
[05:28] <spandexx> can not load this page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:28] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: well i'm helping taojah with irssi and he/she wants to remove logons and logoffs from the chat window
[05:29] <xtacocorex> help ignore
[05:29] <xtacocorex> crap
[05:30] <robotgeek> spandexx: https://
[05:30] <spandexx> tried that ;)
[05:30] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: i told him/her before too?
[05:30] <spandexx> both protocole
[05:31] <spandexx> browser problem
[05:31] <robotgeek> spandexx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:31] <robotgeek> spandexx: works for me :)
[05:31] <taojah> ok well i used /ignore #channel joins parts quits ... think its working...
[05:32] <xtacocorex> taojah: nice
[05:32] <robotgeek> taojah: to remove that, all you need is /ignore #channel -joins -parts -quits
[05:33] <taojah> ok cool
[05:33] <taojah> thanks
[05:33] <taojah> hehe how did you know that
[05:33] <xtacocorex> taojah: you're welcome
[05:33] <taojah> cause i was wondering the same thing
[05:33] <taojah> :p
[05:33] <taojah> i thought maybe /unignore
[05:34] <robotgeek> taojah: that works too, i think. but /help ignore says do that, who am i to contradict :)
[05:34] <robotgeek> kakei: still not resolved? :(
[05:35] <kakei> robotgeek
[05:35] <kakei> yes it's resolved
[05:35] <kakei> :D
[05:35] <robotgeek> kakei: great, what was wrong?
[05:35] <kakei> i deleted my old kakei user and create a new one
[05:35] <robotgeek> kakei: hmm, interesting
[05:46] <Snake__> XMMS is the shit
[05:46] <Snake__> K bye
[05:46] <Snake__> :)
[06:03] <Snake__> is there any way to browse the web in konsole?
[06:03] <difeta> how can i remove all laoded themes from superkaramba? I have a theme that says its running, but I cannot see it.
[06:06] <robotgeek> Snake__: lynx/elinks/links2
[06:06] <Snake__> ?
[06:07] <Snake__> robotgeek: elaborate?
[06:07] <robotgeek> Snake__: you can use those to browse in console
[06:07] <Snake__> Ah, do I need to download?
[06:07] <Snake__> (when I did console lynx it didnt do anything)
[06:09] <Snake__> haha sweet I figured out www-browser
[06:11] <xtacocorex> i'm assuming people use kopete, does it bog your system down?
[06:11] <Snake__> Not really
[06:11] <Snake__> If it does tho, just go get GAIM
[06:11] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: no
[06:11] <Snake__> Works just as well
[06:12] <xtacocorex> Snake__: i use gaim now, but everytime i want to use kopete, when someone ims me, it freezes the system for a minute before i can do anything
[06:12] <Snake__> hmm
[06:12] <Snake__> Dunno thats odd tho
[06:12] <xtacocorex> it's sorta wierd because it worked perfect in fedora when i used to run that
[06:14] <xtacocorex> it's all good, i'll stick with gaim for everything except irc since i forgot about konversation
[06:26] <xtacocorex> anyone have an idea why my external usb harddrive (which automounted itself two days ago) doesn't now?
[06:26] <robotgeek> hmm, xtacocorex . weird
[06:27] <xtacocorex> i use it for backing up data from linux and i copied music over so i can listen to it at work on a winxp machine
[06:27] <xtacocorex> the system recognizes that it's there from the dmesg output
[06:29] <kakei> hey any idea of how to active on the killer bar to show the windows open? i can see anyone!
[06:31] <Snake__> Hey guys, I just uninstalled the beep-media-player and now XMMS wont play MP#
[06:31] <Snake__> MP3*
[06:31] <Snake__> Is there any way to get XMMS's dependcys bacK?
[06:31] <kakei> hey any one knows how to change the name showed by Konsole ? Actually is showing sh-3.00$
[06:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> kakei: type 'exit'
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[06:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> or `bash`
[06:32] <kakei> i typed exit and my console close :)
[06:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> kakei: ok, your shell is now sh, not bash :O
[06:33] <Snake__> Oooo magic.
[06:33] <kakei> `bash`
[06:33] <Snake__> :)
[06:33] <kakei> work but the commands dont work
[06:33] <kakei> ls
[06:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'don't work'?
[06:35] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~$ ls
[06:35] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~$
[06:35] <Snake__> Anyone..
[06:35] <kakei> or commands like clear
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Snake__: sorry, not sure.
[06:35] <kakei> doesnt work
[06:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Snake__ about mp3
[06:36] <xtacocorex> Snake__: did the uninstall of beep remove other packages?
[06:36] <Deathstarr> How do you uninstall  kubunutu
[06:36] <Snake__> I think so
[06:36] <Snake__> I think beep took the MP3 stuff with it
[06:36] <Deathstarr> anyone
[06:37] <Snake__> Deathstarr: reformat...
[06:37] <xtacocorex> Snake__: how did you uninstall it? command line? it should have listed all the packages it removed, and then jsut reinstall them
[06:37] <Deathstarr> How?
[06:37] <Snake__> What are you trying to put on your pc Deathstarr
[06:38] <Deathstarr> I am Trying to Take Kubuntu off my Drive.
[06:38] <Deathstarr> So that I only have Windows
[06:38] <Snake__> okay you either need to use a program like partition magic to delete the partition
[06:38] <Deathstarr> because I installed it and parents said it cant stay
[06:38] <Snake__> Well do you have 2 drives?
[06:38] <Snake__> or did you create a partition?
[06:38] <Deathstarr> I Dual Booted it
[06:39] <Snake__> But im saying when you installed it, did you make a new partition, or do you have another drive you put it on
[06:39] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: you can boot via a live cd, and remove the partition
[06:39] <AgeLesS> Deathstar, you can use anything you want to reformat that partition, and possibly if you have a tool like QTParted, you can extend your windows partition over the free space
[06:39] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: though you should convince your parents to let you have linux :)
[06:40] <Snake__> xtacocorex: I used adept
[06:40] <AgeLesS> indeed, did they have any objection in particular to linux?
[06:40] <Snake__> to uninstall
[06:40] <Deathstarr> well Everyone dosent know how to use it and its not just my computer
[06:40] <Deathstarr> I am on Windows Right now and Kub wont let me have a net Connection
[06:40] <xtacocorex> Deathstarr: there is also something build into windows that will actually show you the whole harddrive specs and the partitions and i think you can remove the partition from there, but i forgot where it is located at
[06:40] <xtacocorex> Snake__: does adept keep logs? the logs might list what was removed
[06:41] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: hmm, is it wireless?
[06:41] <Snake__> xtacocorex: im not sure
[06:41] <Deathstarr> No
[06:41] <Deathstarr> I would Have DSl Lan
[06:41] <Deathstarr> using Enet
[06:41] <xtacocorex> Snake__: hmm, i'd probably just go through the mp3 installation again
[06:41] <AgeLesS> check your net settings in the system settings
[06:41] <Snake__> xtacocorex: no logs that I can see
[06:41] <AgeLesS> or your logs
[06:41] <AgeLesS> there might be errors
[06:41] <Snake__> so I should just reinstall beep media?
[06:42] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: it shouldn't be a problem to get internet access, but you can use qtparted to wipe the linux partion
[06:42] <Snake__> I got a better idea, i'm going to uninstall xmms, and reinstall it
[06:42] <Deathstarr> So SOmeone Tell me the easyest way to uninstall Kubunutu
[06:42] <Snake__> that will bring the dependenys with it right?
[06:42] <xtacocorex> Snake__: that will work
[06:42] <xtacocorex> Snake__: it should
[06:42] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: boot from live cd, (do u have one?) , and remove partition
[06:42] <Deathstarr> I downloaded and Burned it
[06:43] <Snake__> Man programs in linux are so tiny
[06:43] <kakei> hey guys can u help me im trying my Windows Show in the Killer bar
[06:43] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: or in windows, right click on my computer -> Manage -> Disk Management
[06:43] <Deathstarr> and
[06:43] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: i think you can get rid of the partition from there
[06:43] <Deathstarr> ok Hold on
[06:43] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: that's where that is at
[06:43] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: i couldn't remember
[06:44] <AgeLesS> yeah, that is correct robotgeek
[06:44] <robotgeek> not too bad for someone who doesn't use windows :)
[06:44] <Snake__> CRAP it didnt reinstall it!
[06:44] <Snake__> Wtf!
[06:44] <xtacocorex> i used that once to find something
[06:45] <xtacocorex> ubotu tell Snake__ about mp3
[06:45] <Deathstarr> What am I looking for
[06:45] <robotgeek> Snake__: calm down
[06:45] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: Disk Management or something
[06:45] <Deathstarr> I went to Disk Managment and then To DiskManagment again On I have 3 Pations
[06:45] <xtacocorex> Snake__: the bot should tell you about the mp3 stuff
[06:45] <Snake__> Ive already done what that bot sys
[06:45] <Snake__> says*
[06:45] <xtacocorex> Snake__:
[06:45] <xtacocorex> oh
[06:45] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: delete the "unknown" (linux) partitions
[06:45] <Deathstarr> Snake just update over to Kubuntu It comes With More Media stuff
[06:46] <Snake__> ?
[06:46] <Deathstarr> I have two of them Do I Delete both other then the NTST
[06:46] <Deathstarr> NTFS**
[06:47] <xtacocorex> Deathstarr: keep the ntfs
[06:47] <xtacocorex> Deathstarr: delete the other two
[06:47] <Deathstarr> and Delete the other two
[06:47] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: there should be a boot partition, don't delete that or you wont be able to boot
[06:47] <xtacocorex> that is a good point
[06:48] <xtacocorex> unless he put the grub stuff in the mbr, then he'd have to use a windows disk in recovery mode and do a fixmbr
[06:48] <Deathstarr> I Delete both of them
[06:48] <Snake__> xtacocorex: It says it cant find gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:48] <robotgeek> Snake__: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:48] <_nano_> !NTFS
[06:48] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:48] <Deathstarr> if I cant reboot I have a Few  Spells up my Sleeve that I know
[06:48] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: exactly, i had to do that
[06:49] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: :)
[06:49] <Deathstarr> so brb and I will tell You
[06:49] <Snake__> hes gonna fuck up his system
[06:49] <Snake__> lol
[06:49] <xtacocorex> hha
[06:49] <robotgeek> Snake__: language
[06:49] <Snake__> ...
[06:49] <Snake__> Hes gonna fark up his system
[06:49] <robotgeek> *sigh*
[06:50] <Snake__> I swear im going to get banned for cursing one day (No pun intended)
[06:50] <robotgeek> might happen, yes
[06:50] <Snake__> lol
[06:50] <Snake__> Sorry, it honestly does just slip
[06:50] <robotgeek> Snake__: the CoC is big here, and there might be kids on
[06:50] <Snake__> CoC?
[06:50] <robotgeek> !CoC
[06:50] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[06:50] <Snake__> Ah
[06:51] <xtacocorex> the bot is such a nice thing
[06:51] <Snake__> Could have just said code of conduct :)
[06:51] <Snake__> Anywho, so like
[06:51] <robotgeek> Snake__: i'm lazy
[06:51] <Snake__> should apt-get be findinging a package called gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:51] <Snake__> ??
[06:51] <crimsun> if you have multiverse enabled, yes
[06:51] <robotgeek> oh hey crimsun
[06:52] <Snake__> erm I think I do
[06:52] <crimsun> hi robotgeek
[06:52] <xtacocorex> well i must be off, work early tomorrow
[06:52] <xtacocorex> good luck Snake__
[06:52] <Snake__> Alright cya
[06:53] <Snake__> Umm I dont see no multiverse on this source.list
[06:53] <Snake__> crimsun:
[06:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Snake__ about repos
[06:58] <Snake__> ubotu: tell Snake__ about mp3
[07:07] <Snake__> Hmm this is odd
[07:07] <Snake__> I can stream MP3 but not play them off the HDD
[07:07] <Snake__> Meh whatever, all im doing is streaming anyway
[07:11] <robotgeek> hey seth_k|lappy
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> hiya robotgeek, you've got ops here now
[07:12] <robotgeek> yes, you put me on top of the list
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> ah yes, newest
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> I'll alphabetize it in a sec
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> if somebody from #ubuntu will help me out
[07:15] <Kalidarn> anyone about?
[07:15] <robotgeek> yes Kalidarn
[07:15] <kalenedrael> Yeah.
[07:15] <crimsun> bah, all dead.
[07:15] <Kalidarn> yeah so i thought
[07:15] <Kalidarn> i have a major problem which has brought me to tears
[07:15] <Snake__> im dead..
[07:15] <robotgeek> crimsun: maybe you can help seth_k|lappy
[07:15] <Kalidarn> ill start from the start.
[07:15] <crimsun> seth_k|lappy: ?
[07:16] <Snake__> Kalidarn: if aprogram can bring you to tears, I suggest you see a doctor :P
[07:16] <Kalidarn> i got an .avi file that was defaultly running in kaffeine which i didn't like so i left clicked on it and clicked "Edit this Filetype"
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> crimsun, I need somebody with ops in #ubuntu to /query me the contents of the op access list. I'm working on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCOperators
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> do you happen to have ops there?
[07:16] <Kalidarn> then under "Application Preference Order" i added the "mplayer" which was what i wanted to use
[07:16] <Kalidarn> then clicked okay
[07:16] <crimsun> seth_k|lappy: yes. I'll need to read the chanserv parameters, though. Hold.
[07:17] <Kalidarn> told me it updated my system
[07:17] <Snake__> ok
[07:17] <Kalidarn> but then i found out my kmenu was dead
[07:17] <seth_k|lappy> crimsun, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list :)
[07:17] <Snake__> Kalidarn: im listening :)
[07:17] <seth_k|lappy> thanks crimsun
[07:17] <Kalidarn> all the programs it it dissapeared.
[07:17] <Snake__> o..
[07:17] <Kalidarn> i cant get into konquror without being able to type it in konsole
[07:17] <Kalidarn> which i can only access via "Run Command...:
[07:17] <Kalidarn> i tried deleting .kde config directory, and reset still buggered.
[07:18] <Snake__> well you might be able to right click on the K
[07:18] <Kalidarn> yeah
[07:18] <Snake__> then menu editor
[07:18] <Kalidarn> Menu Editor doesnt work
[07:18] <Snake__> fuck
[07:18] <Kalidarn> does nothing when i click on it
[07:18] <Snake__> I mean
[07:18] <Snake__> Fark.
[07:18] <Kalidarn> thats what i am afraid of
[07:18] <Snake__> Hmm
[07:18] <Kalidarn> there must be some way of completly resetting kde to its original.
[07:19] <Snake__> Ya...but how...other than a reinstall
[07:19] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:19] <Kalidarn> thats the problem
[07:19] <Kalidarn> perhaps a kdedev might want to take a look at that, because i don't think its supposed to happen
[07:19] <Kalidarn> it didn't even ask me for root lol
[07:19] <Kalidarn> i want to create a new account, and see if it works under that
[07:19] <Snake__> umm well, its beyond my knowledge....hang on
[07:19] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: "rm -rf ~/.kde" doesn't work?
[07:19] <Kalidarn> then i will delete this account
[07:19] <Kalidarn> tried that didn't work
[07:20] <Kalidarn> someone in #kde mentioned that.
[07:20] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: hmm, weird. it _is_ supposed to work
[07:20] <Kalidarn> id have to kill KDM right?
[07:20] <Kalidarn> or it will just save the current settings to the new config won't it
[07:20] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: this "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" , then login from console, "rm -rf ~/.kde" and login again
[07:21] <Kalidarn> oh okay
[07:21] <Kalidarn> trying that now.
[07:23] <Snake__> robotgeek: how do you restart x?
[07:24] <Snake__> just out of curiosity
[07:24] <kalenedrael> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:24] <robotgeek> Snake__: either ctrl + alt + del
[07:24] <kalenedrael> Or ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:24] <Kalidarn> done, still busted
[07:24] <Snake__> Kalidarn: REINSTALL TIME!! WEEE!!
[07:25] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: hmm, maybe your should back up your user data, and create a new one?
[07:25] <Snake__> :)
[07:25] <kalenedrael> rm -rf .kderc, too
[07:25] <Kalidarn> hehe Snake__
[07:25] <Kalidarn> okay ill try that
[07:25] <kalenedrael> Wait, you're going to reinstall for a GUI theme problem?
[07:25] <Kalidarn> didnt kill kderc though
[07:25] <Kalidarn> i might try that.
[07:25] <Kalidarn> re-installing should not be necessary.
[07:25] <kalenedrael> Don't do that, that's a tremendous waste of time.
[07:25] <Snake__> kalenedrael: no hes not, I was just bein funneh :)
[07:25] <kalenedrael> :P
[07:25] <Kalidarn> anyway
[07:25] <Kalidarn> i can't
[07:26] <Kalidarn> even if i wanted to, i dont have a workstation to operate as a PXE server
[07:26] <Kalidarn> this laptop doesn't have anything other than a USB dvdburner
[07:26] <Kalidarn> as its one of them tablet pcs
[07:26] <kalenedrael> Hm.
[07:26] <Snake__> ooo those are nice I hear
[07:26] <kalenedrael> Damn :/
[07:26] <Kalidarn> ill try and delete .kderc
[07:26] <Kalidarn> like you said.
[07:26] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[07:26] <Snake__> I want a tablet PC...
[07:27] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:27] <kalenedrael> Yeah, delete .kde/ again too, while you're at it.
[07:27] <Kalidarn> DONT BUY A CLEVO
[07:27] <Kalidarn> hehee
[07:27] <Kalidarn> yeah i will
[07:27] <Snake__> Tablet PCs are touch screen arnt they?
[07:27] <kalenedrael> Tablet PCs are nice except for their lack of built in optical drives.
[07:27] <kalenedrael> Yes.
[07:27] <Snake__> That would be nifty since im a artiest!
[07:27] <kalenedrael> It kicks ass for playing certain games, too.
[07:28] <Snake__> I got a graphics pad now, but man a tablet would rock
[07:28] <kalenedrael> A friend of mine owns at UT on his tablet.
[07:28] <Snake__> I would think that would be hard..
[07:29] <kalenedrael> Not really, set it in relative mode...
[07:29] <Snake__> Does he like click where to shoot or what?
[07:29] <kalenedrael> I dunno exactly what the controls are but the stylus does come in handy for something.
[07:29] <kalenedrael> He probably just clicks to shoot, or hits spacebar.
[07:30] <kalenedrael> It's also good for RTS games.
[07:30] <Kalidarn> still buggered
[07:30] <kalenedrael> Damn
[07:30] <Snake__> RTS would be great with a tablet
[07:30] <kalenedrael> Yes.
[07:30] <Kalidarn> lol perhaps
[07:30] <Kalidarn> okay whats the unix command to create a new user
[07:30] <kalenedrael> Kalidarn, hm, you say your menu disappeared?
[07:30] <Kalidarn> well not dissapeard
[07:30] <Kalidarn> but all the programs in it
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Oh.
[07:31] <Kalidarn> under "All Applications"
[07:31] <Kalidarn> and whats worse
[07:31] <Kalidarn> i cant get into the control panel either
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Have you tried just removing the menu from the dock and re-adding it?
[07:31] <Kalidarn> yes
[07:31] <kalenedrael> You can type kcontrol at a prompt to open the control center.
[07:31] <Kalidarn> that didn't work
[07:31] <Snake__> Kalidarn, for future refrence, kcontrol
[07:31] <Kalidarn> yes i did
[07:31] <Kalidarn> and guess whats in the kcontrol
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[07:31] <Kalidarn> nothing
[07:31] <Kalidarn> except the front page
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Nothing? O.o
[07:31] <Kalidarn> telling me i have an i686 machine and its name etc
[07:32] <Kalidarn> and it has "View" up the top
[07:32] <Kalidarn> and "No text!"
[07:32] <kalenedrael> Looks like you accidentally removed some critical system-wide KDE directory, not just your settings...
[07:32] <Kalidarn> lol no that should not have happened.
[07:32] <kalenedrael> No, it shouldn't/
[07:32] <Kalidarn> considering this happend after all i did was change the application order of .avi files
[07:32] <Kalidarn> to run in mplayer
[07:32] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:32] <kalenedrael> Wow, odd.
[07:32] <Kalidarn> thats when all this serious stuff happened.
[07:32] <Kalidarn> thats all i did when i turned my machine on
[07:33] <Kalidarn> cos i was going to watch a movie before going out lol
[07:33] <kalenedrael> Type 'kmenuedit' at a prompt and see what it says in the menu editor...
[07:33] <Kalidarn> dcecchin@SOLACE:~$ kmenuedit
[07:33] <Kalidarn> kmenuedit: WARNING: Could not read /home/dcecchin/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[07:34] <Snake__> Woo m*a*s*h is on!
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Yeah, I got that too, don't worry about it.
[07:34] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:34] <Kalidarn> its all grey
[07:34] <Kalidarn> nothing
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Did it at least pop open a window?
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Nothing?!
[07:34] <Kalidarn> and its got "File" "Edit" and "No text!" at the top
[07:34] <Kalidarn> yeah
[07:34] <Kalidarn> with "hide toolbar" in No Text!
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Odd.
[07:34] <Kalidarn> that wories me
[07:34] <Kalidarn> why it says that
[07:34] <Snake__> lol
[07:35] <Kalidarn> its like thats where the Help thing is supposed to be
[07:35] <Snake__> (Kalidan how do you change what programs open what files?)
[07:35] <Kalidarn> right click on the file
[07:35] <Kalidarn> like i would in windows
[07:35] <Kalidarn> click properties
[07:35] <Snake__> oh ok
[07:35] <Snake__> I was jw for my MP3s :)
[07:35] <Kalidarn> and it had  "change file preference order' or something
[07:36] <Kalidarn> pretty self explanitory i found, and i didn't expect it to do this.
[07:36] <Kalidarn> now my brother is going "see linux sucks balls"
[07:36] <Kalidarn> which annoys me even more
[07:36] <Kalidarn> as i am having a problem trying to fix it lol
[07:36] <Snake__> Tell him it does if you dont know what your doing
[07:36] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:36] <Snake__> Then laugh at him when his windows crashes
[07:36] <Kalidarn> even if you do it can
[07:36] <Kalidarn> lol i have progs in Linux crash too ;P
[07:37] <Snake__> Exactly.. Programs.
[07:37] <Kalidarn> though atleast they quit instantly.
[07:37] <Snake__> Not linux, but programs :)
[07:37] <kalenedrael> Yeah, programs do crash.
[07:37] <Kalidarn> but that could be upto the developer
[07:37] <Snake__> Windows, the whole OS crashes, you get smacked with a blue screen and a restart
[07:37] <kalenedrael> Windows usually just dies when programs crash, Linux doesn't :P
[07:37] <Snake__> :-P
[07:37] <Kalidarn> ive had explorer crash numerous times though
[07:37] <Kalidarn> that really gets up my arse when im working on something
[07:38] <Kalidarn> and when it wont like crash already and let me restart it
[07:38] <Snake__> lol
[07:38] <kalenedrael> I've made Linux crash quite a few times, actually, but only due to using shitty/dodgy device drivers.
[07:38] <Kalidarn> but atleast all the things in my start menu dont disspear and i can still access my control panel :D
[07:38] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:38] <Snake__> lol, i've had my whole start menu disappear
[07:38] <Kalidarn> oh okay
[07:38] <Snake__> that was a nightmare
[07:38] <kalenedrael> The problem is that those have access to kernel memory space (being kernel modules) and thus fuck things up a lot when they go :P
[07:38] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:39] <Kalidarn> perhaps i can apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <Kalidarn> and reinstall KDE from command line
[07:39] <Kalidarn> would that fix it?
[07:39] <Kalidarn> not if its user related i bet
[07:39] <Snake__> Did you try to make a new user?
[07:39] <Kalidarn> as in related to 'dcecchin'
[07:39] <Kalidarn> no i havnt yet
[07:39] <Kalidarn> not sure how to from konsole
[07:39] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:39] <Snake__> Me neither...
[07:39] <Snake__> Hold on
[07:39] <kalenedrael> When I first started using Linux, Windows 98 was fucked up and the mouse didn't work. I backed up all my stuff to some CDs with no mouse and deleted everything.
[07:40] <kalenedrael> Have you tried making a new user?
[07:40] <Kalidarn> yeah i started using it after XP
[07:40] <nalioth> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <robotgeek> kalenedrael: hmm, language :) (even if it's true)
[07:40] <Kalidarn> when i found out how loated vista would be
[07:40] <kalenedrael> k
[07:40] <Kalidarn> *bloated
[07:40] <kalenedrael> Ok, you should try making a new user.
[07:40] <Snake__> vistas goign to be decent...if they took DRM out
[07:41] <Kalidarn> DRM = good
[07:41] <Kalidarn> well.
[07:41] <Kalidarn> if you look at it in one way
[07:41] <Kalidarn> not from our way
[07:41] <Kalidarn> but from MS's way
[07:41] <Kalidarn> they were made a deal
[07:41] <kalenedrael> mkdir /home/foo; groupadd foo; useradd -s /bin/bash -g foo foo
[07:41] <Kalidarn> they had to do it
[07:41] <Kalidarn> if they wanted the codec from the HDDVD board
[07:41] <Snake__> .....kalidarn go fix your thing, and then I want to talk to you about DRM, im intrested in knowing why you think its good
[07:41] <Snake__> ok?
[07:41] <kalenedrael> They could have used.... something else :P
[07:42] <Kalidarn> basically there was the decoding issue, they were worried about the MPAA wouldn't give pernission to MS to read HDDVDs unless they "showed some protection"
[07:42] <Kalidarn> now they did that by putting DRM in there which was good, because "its already broken" lol
[07:42] <Kalidarn> microsoft has NOTHING to gain out of stopping people pirating movies
[07:42] <kalenedrael> Like Blu-ray (though Sony is obviously not known for their freedom to copy)
[07:42] <Kalidarn> infact they have something to gain from it, ie ppl buying computers to run media centre
[07:42] <Kalidarn> etc
[07:43] <Snake__> Okay but now I can't watch HD TV without a "Compliant moniter" and their freaking detectiong sucks
[07:43] <kalenedrael> Detection?
[07:43] <Kalidarn> but thats my only reason for thinking its good
[07:43] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:43] <Kalidarn> its crap, id rather have no protection
[07:43] <kalenedrael> You can't watch HDTV without a 'compliant monitor'?
[07:43] <robotgeek> hmm, i know there are only 3 ppl here, but isn't there a #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:43] <Snake__> I got the vista beta, and lo and behold, my year old HD 20" Dell moniter is not "Compliant"
[07:43] <kalenedrael> What the hell?
[07:43] <Kalidarn> but....... unfortunately id rather have protection and be able to crack it and watch dvds rather than never be able to watch them
[07:43] <Snake__> So, no HD for me.
[07:43] <Kalidarn> kalenedrael: unless its cracked
[07:43] <kalenedrael> Wow....
[07:44] <Kalidarn> im guessing there will be a loophole
[07:44] <kalenedrael> That's incredibly stupid.
[07:44] <Kalidarn> what about all the media centre laptops
[07:44] <Kalidarn> u cant just rip a laptop screen off
[07:44] <Snake__> It would be easier to set up a dvd driver than crack a secruity system
[07:44] <Kalidarn> there might be a dongle or something u can buy
[07:44] <Kalidarn> and u know how easy theyre broken
[07:45] <Kalidarn> but anyway im going to try and create a new user account
[07:45] <Kalidarn> how do i do that from console?
[07:45] <kalenedrael> What, do they have some encryption on the video thing? Can't you send it across S-video, 5BNC, or optical?
[07:45] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:45] <kalenedrael> mkdir /home/foo; groupadd foo; useradd -s /bin/bash -g foo foo
[07:45] <Kalidarn> oh okay
[07:45] <kalenedrael> (as root, of course)
[07:45] <Kalidarn> ype
[07:45] <kalenedrael> Then 'passwd foo' to change foo's password...
[07:46] <Kalidarn> yeah
[07:46] <Kalidarn> "groupadd foo;" too many foos ;P
[07:47] <kalenedrael> :P
[07:47] <Kalidarn> whats the standard group?
[07:47] <kalenedrael> There's no standard group, really... usually 'users' if anything.
[07:47] <Kalidarn> ah okay
[07:47] <Kalidarn> thats probly what my default user is then
[07:48] <Kalidarn>  "-g foo foo" whats the first foo and the second foo lol
[07:48] <Kalidarn> should probly read some man file lol
[07:48] <Kalidarn> buy i cbf, lol
[07:50] <Kalidarn> anyway this probly wont fix it ;P
[07:51] <Kalidarn> ah worked it out
[07:53] <Snake__> kool
[07:54] <Kalidarn> now im gonna relog
[07:54] <Kalidarn> and try this. ;P
[07:54] <treakath> hey
[07:55] <treakath> hey all
[07:55] <robotgeek> hey treakath
[07:56] <treakath> hey
[07:56] <treakath> how are you?
[07:56] <robotgeek> treakath: good, how are you?
[07:56] <treakath> good rob
[07:57] <Kalidarn> hmm
[07:57] <Kalidarn> didn't work
[07:57] <Kalidarn> i got "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your Installation"
[07:58] <Kalidarn> in a tiny little crappy non-looking kde themed ox
[07:58] <Kalidarn> *box
[07:58] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: weird
[07:58] <treakath> rob what are you doing??
[07:59] <robotgeek> treakath: i usually take offtopic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:59] <Kalidarn> looks like im forced to re-install
[07:59] <Snake__> Kalidarn: perhaps do that apt-get install --reinstall thin
[07:59] <Snake__> g
[07:59] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: yes, try that
[07:59] <Kalidarn> okay
[08:00] <Kalidarn> esher: Couldn't find package thin
[08:00] <Kalidarn> lol
[08:00] <Kalidarn> esher: Couldn't find package thin
[08:00] <Kalidarn> ooh odd
[08:00] <Kalidarn> it wont copy E:
[08:00] <Kalidarn> hehe
[08:00] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: he meant , "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" :)
[08:00] <Kalidarn> lol thats what i thought
[08:02] <Kalidarn> restarting
[08:03] <Snake__> lol
[08:04] <treakath> oh um ok
[08:04] <treakath> dont no what that is
[08:05] <robotgeek> treakath: /j #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:07] <treakath> kk
[08:07] <treakath> rob
[08:12] <Kalidarn> nope sorry that didn't work
[08:13] <Kalidarn> okay time for re-install
[08:13] <Kalidarn> nothing else to try is there.
[08:13] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: ugly. restart?
[08:14] <Kalidarn> yeah
[08:14] <Kalidarn> it doesn't work anymore than it did before
[08:14] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: uggh, maybe you should file a bug?
[08:14] <Kalidarn> i might
[08:14] <Kalidarn> when i have somewhere else to test it for sure
[08:14] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: then, maybe i can try to test it out
[08:14] <Kalidarn> i was a bit sleepy when it happened
[08:15] <Kalidarn> yeah that would be good
[08:15] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: i have a spare install for all that
[08:15] <Kalidarn> yeah
[08:15] <Kalidarn> ill walk you through what i did
[08:17] <treakath> im bored
[08:23] <jbueler> can anyone help with install problem? " checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:23] <robotgeek> jbueler: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:24] <jbueler> cool, am i just missing some basic components?
[08:24] <robotgeek> jbueler: yes, like a compiler :)
[08:24] <robotgeek> jbueler: what are you trying to build?
[08:25] <jbueler> trying to install K9copy
[08:25] <robotgeek> jbueler: isn't there a version in the repos?
[08:26] <jbueler> couldnt get it to work
[08:26] <robotgeek> jbueler: are u on breezy?
[08:26] <jbueler> yeah
[08:27] <robotgeek> jbueler: can you link me to where you are trying to get it from, i need to know the dependencies
[08:29] <jbueler> im not real sure... this is actually my bro's computer, im just trying to help out.. I think ive almost got it though
[08:30] <jbueler> he is missing some dependent files
[08:31] <robotgeek> jbueler: mostly -dev files, i think
[08:31] <robotgeek> and there is no version in the repos
[08:32] <jbueler> yeah, i think he tried to add one to it...
[08:32] <jbueler> and yeah, i just went through this setup on my setup.. and i needed alot of dev files
[08:35] <Mez> anyone here ?
[08:36] <robotgeek> hey Mez
[08:36] <Mez> hmm
[08:36] <jbueler> robotgeek: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[08:36] <jbueler> "
[08:36] <Mez> need a lil help
[08:36] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[08:36] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:36] <Mez> I dont seem to be able to play these movies
[08:36] <Mez> lol
[08:36] <robotgeek> Mez: sure
[08:36] <Mez> dunno what format they're in though
[08:36] <jbueler> sweet, i love that thing
[08:36] <robotgeek> Mez: do you have "the codecs" installed?
[08:37] <Mez> w32codecs is already the newest version.
[08:37] <robotgeek> Mez: = Mez from -nun?
[08:37] <Mez> yes
[08:37] <robotgeek> hmm, okay.
[08:37] <Mez> you know, I could jsut go and watch them on the tv downstairs :D
[08:38] <robotgeek> Mez: what player are you using? kaffeine + xine / vlc?
[08:38] <Mez> ah
[08:38] <Mez> kaffeine + erm
[08:38] <Mez> gstreamer :D
[08:38] <robotgeek> Mez: there you go
[08:38] <robotgeek> Mez: apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[08:39] <Mez> though it's also over a samba share :D
[08:39] <Mez> whee
[08:40] <robotgeek> Mez: i have never installed the codecs, cause i'm on ppc. oh, how i envy you
[08:40] <Mez> :D
[08:40] <Mez> lol
[08:41] <robotgeek> Mez: enjoy
[08:41] <neoncode> How do I make a spesal file like "/mnt/sda/"
[08:41] <robotgeek> neoncode: mkdir
[08:41] <robotgeek> neoncode: and then you mount it there
[08:41] <kkathman> sudo mkdir :)
[08:42] <jbueler> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[08:42] <neoncode> robotgeek: mount says it needs to be a "speical file"
[08:42] <kkathman> jbueler: look for the libqt libraries
[08:42] <robotgeek> jbueler: apt-get install libqt3-dev i guess
[08:43] <robotgeek> neoncode: what and how are you trying to mount?
[08:43] <kkathman> jbueler: do an apt-cache search qt  and look for the libqt libraries
[08:43] <robotgeek> !info libqt3-dev
[08:43] <neoncode> i'm trying to mount an external HD to /mnt/sda/ I used mkdir to make /mnt/sda/ But mount says it needs to be a speacal file
[08:44] <kkathman> robotgeek: you think he'll need the dev?
[08:44] <robotgeek> kkathman: he's compiling something
[08:44] <robotgeek> jbueler: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[08:45] <robotgeek> jbueler: that should be enuf for pretty much anything :)
[08:45] <neoncode> no-one wanna help me?
[08:46] <robotgeek> neoncode: hmm, doesn't it automagically mount?
[08:46] <jbueler> once again... " checking for KDE... configure: error:
[08:46] <jbueler> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[08:46] <jbueler> So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[08:46] <neoncode> robotgeek: in recovery mode as root here. trying to fix my xorg.conf
[08:47] <neoncode> Like I say, "/mnt/sda" must be a special file...
[08:47] <neoncode> Apparently
[08:47] <robotgeek> neoncode: the rescue cd should mount and give you a chroot
[08:47] <robotgeek> neoncode: maybe specifying the file system type would help
[08:47] <neoncode> robotgeek: I didn't know there was a rescue CD. Oh well. It's not *that* important...
[08:48] <jbueler> "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[08:48] <robotgeek> jbueler: one more sec,
[08:48] <jbueler> its cool, i was hopin the robot thing would answer..lol
[08:48] <robotgeek> jbueler: qt3-apps-dev
[08:49] <robotgeek> jbueler: that's pretty much all the -dev packages in kde
[08:49] <neoncode> Well, i'm going to go and fillde with fglrxconfig somemore. Thanks for your help robotgeek :)
[08:49] <ejofee> which one's faster as a calculator: awk, or bc?
[08:49] <robotgeek> ejofee: python
[08:49] <robotgeek> hahaha
[08:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: this is the first time i've heard of bc, i'll chk it out
[08:50] <ejofee> robotgeek: you actually mean "python -c 'print <operation>'" is faster?!? (in bash)
[08:50] <ejofee> robotgeek :)
[08:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: hmm, bc claims to be a calculator :)
[08:51] <jbueler> robotgeek: i think there might be one more.. cause it still says that error...
[08:51] <robotgeek> jbueler: whoa
[08:52] <ejofee> robotgeek: what did you think bc was for?
[08:52] <robotgeek> jbueler: apt-cache search qt3 | grep dev
[08:52] <robotgeek> ejofee: i did not know
[08:52] <robotgeek> ejofee: i generally end up using python most of the time
[08:52] <robotgeek> but now, i'll use bc
[08:54] <ejofee> robotgeek: python is not so fast... i have hundreds of different calculations within a for/while loop and i can't call python like that
[08:54] <robotgeek> ejofee: hmm, i only do that for simple calc.
[08:55] <ejofee> robotgeek: right. thank you.
[09:17] <manveru> anybody knows a bit about licencing here?
[09:18] <robotgeek> manveru: hmm, not too much, but a bit
[09:22] <robotgeek> hmm _manveru what's up
[09:22] <_manveru> :|
[09:22] <robotgeek> _manveru: hmm, if i may ask where are you from?
[09:23] <_manveru> i'm from austria :)
[09:24] <_manveru> the question is solved btw
[09:25] <robotgeek> _manveru: oh okay
[09:37] <treakath> hi
[09:38] <treakath> how are u
[09:38] <robotgeek> hey treakath
[09:39] <treakath> hi how are u
[09:40] <treakath> u  there
[09:40] <robotgeek> treakath: :)
[09:40] <treakath> hi brad
[09:44] <treakath> hi brad
[09:44] <treakath> im treakaths sister
[09:45] <treakath> hi snake
[09:46] <treakath> hi
[09:47] <treakath> fuck u then
[09:49] <robotgeek> treakath: none of that, please
[09:49] <treakath> hi
[09:49] <treakath> well talk to me then
[09:49] <robotgeek> treakath: join #ubuntu-offtopic then
[09:50] <treakath> brad wont talk to me
[09:50] <ejofee> if a variable is "12.5", how can i tell bash i want to consider it numerical (integer, all right)
[09:50] <treakath> i did
[09:50] <robotgeek> treakath: this is a support channel, offtopic talk is not welcome here
[09:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: i was wondering the same thing, maybe the bash scripting guide would help?
[09:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: i wanted to add and subtract dates
[09:50] <treakath> why are u here then
[09:51] <robotgeek> treakath: again, this is a support channel
[09:51] <manveru> ejofee: what do you need that for?
[09:51] <manveru> ejofee: this would be a Float
[09:52] <manveru> ejofee: and as i only know ruby, i cannot help you on that :(
[09:52] <ejofee> treakath: is treakath your brother?!
[09:52] <demon71> can anyone help with a adept problem? When i go to install kplayer, it says there is a "break"
[09:52] <robotgeek> demon71: hmm, are you on breezy
[09:53] <demon71> yes
[09:53] <ejofee> manveru: i don't need it to be a float. it being sorta int($var) is just ok for me.
[09:53] <demon71> robotgeek: I talked to you ealier under Jbueler... That was my bro's account...
[09:53] <robotgeek> demon71: oh okay
[09:54] <robotgeek> ejofee: www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[09:54] <ejofee> robotgeek: thank you!
[09:54] <robotgeek> demon71: can we go command line (i am new to kubuntu as such)
[09:55] <demon71> k... so then i would just type, apt-get install kplayer?
[09:55] <robotgeek> demon71: btw, the package we needed for your brother was kde-devel
[09:55] <robotgeek> demon71: yes, sudo
[09:56] <demon71> yeah.. i got that... it configured fine but had an error when installing.. i gave up for the night.. try again with his stuff later
[09:59] <jorge> hi
[10:00] <robotgeek> hey jorge
[10:00] <jorge> i installed kubuntu 5.10 on 2different laptops and sound doesnt work
[10:00] <jorge> alsa drivers doesnt work.. ive been searching in internet but i found anything useful
[10:01] <jorge> any suggestions?
[10:01] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, i'm kinda clueless about sound. maybe, i can help you with wireless :)
[10:01] <robotgeek> jorge: just ask around here/#ubuntu even
[10:03] <jorge> robot sucks
[10:03] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, me? what did i do
[10:03] <callie> thats not going to get you a lot of help jorge
[10:04] <demon71> no doubt...
[10:05] <callie> just saying "my audio doesnt work! fix it" isnt really enough information to form a reply really either
[10:05] <callie> for all we know you could just be deaf
[10:06] <callie> or stupid
[10:06] <robotgeek> callie: now, don't do that
[10:06] <robotgeek> jorge: could you paste the output of lspci to the pastebin
[10:06] <demon71> its done and over with...
[10:06] <callie> well....
[10:06] <robotgeek> demon71: could you install it from the cli?
[10:07] <demon71> "kplayer: Depends: libidn11 (>= 0.5.18) but 0.5.13-1.0 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.5) but 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: libxrender1 (> 1:0.9.0-1) but 1:0.9.0-1 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: mplayer
[10:07] <demon71> E: Broken packages"
[10:07] <demon71> i tried installing all of those and mine are all up to date
[10:07] <robotgeek> demon71: don't paste here, do you have any backports enabled?
[10:08] <demon71> sorry
[10:08] <demon71> i dont know
[10:08] <callie> look at your /etc.apt/sources.list demon71
[10:08] <robotgeek> demon71: then you probably dont
[10:08] <callie> sorry /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <demon71> prolly not
[10:09] <demon71> callie: okay, im looking
[10:09] <callie> if you see any references to backports you can just hash them out
[10:10] <neoncode> A vanilla install of kubuntu 5.10 should upgrade to KDE 3.5 perfectly right?
[10:10] <callie> yup
[10:10] <callie> mine did
[10:12] <demon71> i dont see any backports
[10:12] <demon71> whats that mean exactly
[10:12] <callie> cool
[10:12] <callie> you use adept?
[10:12] <demon71> yes
[10:13] <callie> ok well adept uses that list to determin where it gets its updates from
[10:13] <neoncode> callie: Good. because last time I upgraded to KDE 3.5 it kinna messed up my install. But KDE was pretty craped up at that point anyway
[10:13] <robotgeek> demon71: mplayers dependencies are broken
[10:13] <robotgeek> or kplayer, rather
[10:13] <callie> neoncode: i know other people who had problems and im not the most experiences linux user and it went as smoothly as possible
[10:13] <demon71> yeah, i knew that but is a backport a non-trusted one? or is that what all of those are called?
[10:14] <treakath> hey i need help please someone???
[10:14] <robotgeek> demon71: they are official, but it's always wise to install whatever you need, and comment it out
[10:14] <robotgeek> treakath: help with what?
[10:14] <callie> backports is a repositary for older versions of files i think
[10:14] <demon71> robotgeek: so i should probably go to the website and see what i need...
[10:14] <demon71> callie: gotcha.. thanks
[10:15] <treakath> yahoo isint working on konkora
[10:15] <robotgeek> callie: no, actually programs in dapper are backported to breezy
[10:15] <treakath> the site
[10:15] <callie> well same dif robotgeek
[10:15] <robotgeek> callie: old versions, i wouldn't call them old version :)
[10:15] <jorge> robotgeek arent you an irc bot?
[10:15] <callie> ok, not the newest then :P
[10:15] <robotgeek> jorge: no, i am human
[10:16] <jorge> ohh.. the sorry for the sucks thing b4
[10:16] <robotgeek> jorge: np
[10:16] <jorge> since you replied so fast i thought i was talking to a bot
[10:17] <robotgeek> jorge: heh
[10:17] <treakath> its working now was going proply
[10:17] <robotgeek> treakath: do you mean konqueror?
[10:18] <treakath> yea my bad
[10:18] <robotgeek> jorge: so did you paste the output to pastebin?
[10:18] <robotgeek> treakath: is it you or your sister?
[10:18] <jorge> yeah... may i paste it here?
[10:18] <treakath> me
[10:18] <jorge> 000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[10:18] <jorge> there is a modem too ....
[10:19] <jorge> 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
[10:19] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, i;ve seen this before
[10:19] <taojah> hello
[10:19] <robotgeek> treakath: i had to kick you sister out
[10:19] <treakath> k
[10:19] <jorge> yeah... i saw posts in kubuntuforums, but i found no solution so far
[10:19] <taojah> when i type cd ~/Desktop in console it say no file or directory  why is that
[10:20] <robotgeek> taojah: can you type cd ~/D<then press tab>
[10:21] <taojah> ok
[10:21] <taojah> it changes it too
[10:21] <robotgeek> taojah: it should tab complete to Desktop, other wise mkdir ~/Desktop
[10:21] <taojah> yeh it goes to ~/Desktop$
[10:22] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, cool
[10:22] <taojah> and when i type cd /
[10:22] <taojah> nothing happens
[10:22] <robotgeek> taojah: cd / will take you to your root directory
[10:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell taojah about cli
[10:22] <taojah> wait
[10:23] <taojah> i have those links
[10:23] <taojah> hehehe
[10:23] <taojah> thats what im reading
[10:23] <robotgeek> taojah: oh okay, sorry
[10:23] <taojah> im starting to read them now
[10:23] <taojah> just saved them last night
[10:23] <taojah> thanks though :)
[10:23] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, yes. go thru them.
[10:24] <taojah> but when i type cd or cd /
[10:24] <taojah> it doesnt take me anywhere
[10:24] <taojah> it just goes to the next line
[10:25] <robotgeek> taojah: then do "ls"
[10:25] <robotgeek> taojah: you care in your root if you do cd /. cd will bring you to you home or ~
[10:26] <taojah> say that again
[10:26] <taojah> i dont understand
[10:26] <taojah> i have to type sudo first for cd ?
[10:27] <robotgeek> taojah: let me bring you a link :)
[10:27] <taojah> ok thank you
[10:27] <taojah> :)
[10:28] <treakath> is everyone having a good day or night?
[10:30] <taojah> im having a good morning
[10:30] <taojah> how are you treakat
[10:31] <robotgeek> taojah: sorry, i was unable to find that link which i was looking for
[10:31] <robotgeek> taojah: so, i'll try to explain as best as i can
[10:32] <taojah> ok thanks
[10:32] <taojah> its ok if you just tell me that normal for nothing to happen if i just type cd or cd /
[10:32] <treakath> good
[10:32] <taojah> i can leanr as i read
[10:32] <taojah> i just thought something was wrong
[10:33] <robotgeek> taojah: it's important for you to understand how files are organised
[10:33] <taojah> yes thats true :)
[10:33] <robotgeek> taojah: if you are using Konqueror, open it up
[10:34] <taojah> ok
[10:34] <taojah> done
[10:34] <taojah> can i use mozilla
[10:34] <taojah> i prefer it :)
[10:34] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, cause konqueor is also a file browser :)
[10:34] <taojah> ahhh
[10:34] <taojah> ok np
[10:35] <taojah> yes ok konqueror
[10:36] <jorge> robotgeek: any suggestion about my sound problem? could it be that the system is confusing the modem with the sound card?
[10:36] <robotgeek> jorge: to be honest, i have no clue
[10:36] <jorge> it worked on kubuntu 5.04
[10:37] <jorge> ohh, thanks anyway... i know its happening to more people
[10:37] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, now that's interesting
[10:39] <robotgeek> jorge: lsmod output to pastebin?
[10:39] <robotgeek> taojah: sorry. now type / in the address bar and hit enter
[10:40] <jorge> what pastebin?
[10:40] <jorge> i have the output here
[10:40] <robotgeek> jorge: don't paste here
[10:40] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[10:40] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:41] <jorge> i see
[10:49] <robotgeek> Sneaky_Bastard: can you change your nick to something not offensive
[10:49] <taojah> hello robotge i was disconnected
[10:49] <robotgeek> taojah: no problem
[10:50] <taojah> hrrm your nick shows up as robotge on my irssi
[10:50] <taojah> wierd
[10:50] <jorge> robot: i pasted in that site
[10:50] <robotgeek> taojah: tab complete, don't you just love it?
[10:50] <robotgeek> jorge: link?
[10:50] <callie> tab complete is sexy
[10:51] <jorge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5991
[10:51] <taojah> what does tab complete mean
[10:51] <robotgeek> taojah: type robo and then press the tab key
[10:51] <callie> taojah: type the first few letters of a name and press tab
[10:51] <callie> lol
[10:52] <taojah> robo
[10:52] <taojah> hmm
[10:52] <callie> damn that Robdor
[10:52] <callie> he's making me type an extra letter!
[10:52] <robotgeek> callie: you probably woke him up,
[10:52] <callie> ehehe
[10:52] <hugelmopf> btw... for the more advanced: if you edit /etc/bash.bashrc and uncomment the last three lines, there are a lot more tab-completion options.
[10:52] <robotgeek> jorge: i see the modules loaded
[10:53] <hugelmopf> like "modprobe <tab>"
[10:53] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: also the .inputrc settings :)
[10:53] <robotgeek> to cycle thru history
[10:53] <taojah> hrrmm
[10:53] <taojah> didnt do anything
[10:53] <callie> hugelmopf: thanks i didnt know that
[10:53] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, really?
[10:53] <hugelmopf> taojah: you have to start a new shell
[10:54] <robotgeek> jorge: your problem seems very similiar to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-486.html
[10:54] <taojah> yeh  maybe its because im on bnc and have another network added, so the network prefix(two letters and a ~) is taking up the space ?
[10:54] <hugelmopf> robotgeek: what do you mean? can you not go through history by up/down?
[10:54] <callie> neoncode: eww
[10:55] <neoncode> callie: D=
[10:55] <taojah> robot do you want to/have time to explain more about what you were telling me about cd ...cd /
[10:55] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: typing su , then uparrow for sudo modprobe (when you exectued it 10 minutes ago) ?
[10:55] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/papers/bash_tips/
[10:56] <robotgeek> lots more there
[10:57] <knubbe> is there a gui for creating ssh-tunnels?
[10:58] <jorge> robotgeek: it tells me to Use the alsa-utils initscript instead when i do a "sudo /etc/init.d/restart
[10:58] <robotgeek> jorge: yes, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[11:00] <callie> one thing i have noticed is that torrnents and file sharing under linux seems much slower under linux when compared with windows. could it port related?
[11:00] <callie> *torrents
[11:00] <robotgeek> callie: could be, maybe you havent port forwarded correctly?
[11:01] <jorge> robotgeek: i think im gonna disable the modem and unused stuff in the bios
[11:01] <callie> robotgeek: i've never had to port forward under winblows
[11:01] <robotgeek> jorge: good deal, i'm kind out of my zone here
[11:01] <callie> robotgeek: not for file sharing anyway
[11:02] <jorge> thanks !
[11:02] <robotgeek> callie: hmm, are you still using azureus
[11:02] <callie> robotgeek: im giving it a go
[11:02] <robotgeek> callie: cool, if you were using that before
[11:03] <robotgeek> callie: a good reference point is http://www.portforward.com/
[11:03] <PerraS> my installation of kubuntu hangs on my laptop when it tries to find my CD-rom
[11:03] <robotgeek> PerraS: so, basically it doesn't boot?
[11:03] <callie> robotgeek: this is the first time i've used it, i've set up port forwarding before for things like ssh so im pretty familiar with the process
[11:04] <robotgeek> callie: oh okay, i love that website. it's very user-friendly :)
[11:04] <PerraS> robotgeek: it does. now after 10min of searching it continues. but now i only see a blue screen
[11:04] <robotgeek> PerraS: hmm, maybe ask in #ubuntu also?
[11:04] <PerraS> okey
[11:05] <_paul> hi,all
[11:05] <robotgeek> hey _paul
[11:05] <taojah> robot do you want to/have time to explain more about what you were telling me about cd ...cd /
[11:05] <callie> robotgeek: thats the site i originally used i think, very simple and clear inoformation there as i remember
[11:05] <PerraS> a blue screen with a with border at bottom where i can write
[11:05] <_paul> who can tell me how to install a software...i am newbie...
[11:05] <callie> _paul: load adept
[11:06] <robotgeek> _paul: System -> Adept
[11:06] <_paul> yes, but
[11:06] <_paul> i download skype ,and then i cannt find skype in my adept
[11:06] <callie> _paul: can you see the skype file?
[11:06] <robotgeek> _paul: how did you get skype? from where?
[11:07] <_paul> from www.skype.com
[11:07] <robotgeek> _paul: did you finish installing?
[11:07] <_paul> no
[11:07] <_paul> i just donnt know how to make it
[11:07] <robotgeek> _paul: okay, here's a nice link
[11:07] <robotgeek> !skype
[11:07] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:08] <_paul> ok
[11:09] <_paul> i will see it, thanks, when i have questions i will come back
[11:09] <robotgeek> _paul: sure
[11:10] <robotgeek> _paul: if no one is here, you can ask in #ubuntu also
[11:10] <neoncode> How do you reset to the KDE defults?
[11:10] <_paul> ok
[11:10] <neoncode> and not the kubuntu ones?
[11:10] <taojah> is skype a chat program ?
[11:10] <robotgeek> neoncode: hmm, interesting. may not be possible
[11:10] <callie> robotgeek: i cant remember where you can set default programs in kde, mail client, browser etc, do you know?
[11:10] <robotgeek> taojah: skype is a voice chat/phone program
[11:11] <taojah> oh ok
[11:11] <neoncode> robotgeek: It is, when I screwed up my pervious upgrade to kde 3.5 it reset them
[11:11] <robotgeek> callie: System Settings -> Kde COmpoenents
[11:11] <callie> thanks dewd
[11:12] <robotgeek> np
[11:12] <neoncode> I know, i'll uninstall "kubuntu-default-settings"
[11:12] <robotgeek> callie: maybe not,
[11:12] <taojah> robotgeek: i dont understand the first paragraph of this 'Files and Directory commands'  .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:12] <callie> thats what im thinking too robotgeek ;)
[11:12] <callie> i think its moved since 3.4 robotgeek
[11:13] <taojah> its the cd cd / part that isnt working for me, or i dont understand
[11:14] <robotgeek> taojah: / means root, it containts all the files in your system in various folders, like /bin , /etc for config etc etc.
[11:14] <robotgeek> taojah: your home directory is also /home/taojah
[11:15] <robotgeek> taojah: do you see how your home directory comes under root?
[11:16] <neoncode> Well that was a bad idea...
[11:16] <taojah> what is
[11:16] <taojah> bad idea?
[11:16] <robotgeek> callie: alt + f2 , kcontrol + Kde Components
[11:17] <robotgeek> i knew i had seen it somewhere
[11:17] <neoncode> I removed "kubuntu-default-settings" Because I wanted the KDE defults. you see when I upgraded to 3.5 before it screwed up and reset to KDE defaults. and that package was uninstalled
[11:17] <taojah> ok i see robotgeek
[11:18] <neoncode> It must have been a spectacualar screw up that it just happened to mess up the upgrade in just the right place to reset it without screwing KDE. like it just did. but I re installed the package as I just removed it
[11:18] <neoncode> bottom like. don't "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings"
[11:18] <neoncode> and then logoff
[11:19] <neoncode> *bottom line
[11:19] <robotgeek> neoncode: heh
[11:19] <callie> ty robotgeek
[11:19] <neoncode> But Like I say it must have been a spectatular accident to screw up in just the right way
[11:19] <robotgeek> it does take some talent, neoncode
[11:20] <neoncode> =)
[11:33] <neoncode> !firefox1.5
[11:33] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:34] <_newbie_> Does somebody know how to change the primary language in OpenOffice2? (Tools -> Language dosen't work)
[11:36] <_newbie_> Anyone?
[11:36] <neoncode> Nope. sorry....
[11:36] <robotgeek> _newbie_: try asking in #ubuntu
[11:36] <_newbie_> Ok will do
[11:36] <robotgeek> _newbie_: or the ubuntu channel for your language,
[11:37] <neoncode> or #openoffice.org
[11:44] <callie> not being able to fileshare properly on linux is a real shock
[11:44] <robotgeek> callie: i havent really experienced any problems
[11:45] <callie> its just the comparison between windows and linux thats bugging me
[11:45] <callie> i get less hits and awful speeds under linux
[11:46] <callie> im talking B/s here
[11:46] <robotgeek> hmm, weird callie
[11:47] <callie> yeah, very odd
[11:48] <callie> under winows i get at least 200kB/s
[11:48] <callie> and no port mapping neccasary
[11:48] <paines> hi
[11:48] <robotgeek> hey paines
[11:48] <callie> hi paines
[11:48] <paines> I want to test apt-build for optimizing and installing some packages. but it is failing during build. anyone have experience with apt-build ?
[11:49] <robotgeek> paines: i havent used apt-build, i have used dpkg tools, maybe the errors are similiar
[11:50] <robotgeek> paines: maybe you want to ask in #ubuntu-motu / #ubuntu-motu-school
[11:50] <knubbe> is there a way to check which ports i have open?
[11:50] <paines> robotgeek, good idea. thx
[11:52] <callie> knubbe: take a look at nmap
[11:56] <robotgeek> alrite, nite all
[11:56] <callie> night robotgeek
[11:56] <neoncode> robotgeek: nite
[11:58] <taojah> can someone show me what they see when they type free -m in console please
[11:59] <bimberi> taojah: /j #flood
[12:32] <taojah> hi
[12:33] <ejofee> hi
[12:35] <restagner> hello, i'm new to kubuntu. . .
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi
[12:35] <taojah> hi restagn welcome
[12:35] <restagner> thanks.
[12:35] <taojah> im new too :)
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi mez
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi taojah
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi ejofee
[12:36] <restagner> i've just installed kubuntu and am having trouble getting my flash usb drive to be recognized...anybody have this kind of problem?
[12:36] <Kaiser_Away> hoary or Breezy?
[12:36] <restagner> breezy
[12:36] <Mez> hey Kaiser_Away
[12:37] <restagner> the error is as follows: An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1;
[12:37] <restagner> The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist.
[12:38] <restagner> yet, when i look into the /media dir, i notice that the usbdisk directory contains all my data
[01:24] <stisev> ok
[01:24] <stisev> I need help ASAP
[01:24] <stisev> anyone here?
[01:24] <stisev> I've got some rather trivial questions only you guys can answer
[01:24] <stisev> ------------------------
[01:24] <stisev> QUESTION #1 - How the hell do I set root password in the default install of Kubuntu?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> !root
[01:24] <stisev> !root
[01:24] <stisev> ?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> !+root
[01:24] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:25] <bimberi> :)
[01:25] <Hobbsee> that one :)
[01:25] <stisev> ?
[01:25] <stisev> ok
[01:25] <stisev> I've done sudo
[01:25] <stisev> but it asks me to authenticate
[01:25] <stisev> I enter my normal pass but it doesn't work.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> the password at installation?
[01:26] <stisev> yes
[01:26] <bimberi> stisev: any error message?
[01:26] <stisev> I entered the password of the account I made @ startup
[01:26] <stisev> (stisev)
[01:26] <stisev> bimberi, pardon?
[01:27] <stisev> bimberi, it says authentication failed when running sudo
[01:27] <stisev> understandably so, since I haven't set a root pass
[01:27] <stisev> Where exactly -do- I do this?
[01:27] <bimberi> stisev: sudo doesn't use a root password
[01:27] <stisev> o_O
[01:27] <stisev> ?
[01:27] <stisev> sudo = super user do
[01:27] <stisev> su = super user
[01:27] <stisev> I thought that was root
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> su = substitute user
[01:28] <stisev> Ok, how do I set a root pass?
[01:28] <stisev> Passwd?
[01:28] <stisev> Passwd doesn't work - it changes my normal account's pass
[01:28] <bimberi> sudo gives a user superuser privs, if they're allowed to by the policy set in /etc/sudoers
[01:29] <stisev> oh
[01:29] <stisev> Is there any way to -set- a root paassword?
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, but it might break the gui tools
[01:29] <stisev> o_O
[01:29] <stisev> Uh, why?
[01:29] <stisev> I don't understand why this is so difficult
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> because they are patched to work with sudo
[01:30] <stisev> I've never run into a linux flavor that doesn't ask for a root pass
[01:30] <stisev> granted, I'm not that linux savvy ;0
[01:30] <stisev> ;)
[01:30] <stisev> I need it
[01:30] <bimberi> stisev: it took me a while to get used to it
[01:30] <stisev> for a specific case
[01:30] <stisev> I need to give my good friend root access to this box
[01:31] <stisev> it's free and clear - no vital data on it
[01:31] <stisev> he needs to configure it from abroad
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> give him a user, then add him to sudoers
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't enable ssh root logins
[01:31] <stisev> UG
[01:31] <stisev> UGH
[01:31] <stisev> that was my next question
[01:31] <stisev> Does Kubuntu install SSH by default?
[01:32] <bimberi> stisev: "sudo -i" gets you a root shell - as if you had logged in as root
[01:32] <bimberi> stisev: only a client
[01:32] <bimberi> server can be installed by installing openssh-server
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: sudo apt-get install ssh will install the server
[01:32] <bimberi> ... yes or ssh (somewhat perversely) :)
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:33] <stisev> wait
[01:33] <stisev> so
[01:33] <stisev> during Kubuntu install
[01:33] <stisev> if i type server
[01:33] <stisev> will that install the SSH files required?
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:33] <bimberi> not openssh-server no
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> it will install a non-gui system
[01:34] <stisev> oh
[01:34] <stisev> OK guys
[01:34] <stisev> the root problem is this
[01:34] <stisev> I'm triple booting this system
[01:34] <stisev> (brand new powerhouse laptop)
[01:34] <stisev> OSX + Kubuntu + XP SP2
[01:34] <stisev> but GRUB is not recognizing OSX
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[01:34] <stisev> LILO is pathetic garbage, so that's not going to work
[01:34] <Hobbsee> does grub do osx anyway?
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> not suprised tbh
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> not afaik
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hence no supprise
[01:35] <stisev> but
[01:35] <stisev> my friend got it working
[01:35] <Hobbsee> you need yaboot for that, dont you?
[01:35] <stisev> ?
[01:35] <stisev> Yaboot?
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: yes, but yaboot is for mac
[01:35] <Hobbsee> where's robotgeek_zzz when you need him...
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> he's on a pc
[01:35] <stisev> that's a type of bootloader?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> right...
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hence the problem
[01:35] <stisev> I'm on a PC
[01:35] <stisev> OSX has a bootloader
[01:35] <stisev> that works with XP
[01:35] <stisev> but I haven't tested it with linux
[01:36] <stisev> AND another problem is that the OSX bootloader really really sucks bad
[01:36] <stisev> it defualts to OSX every time
[01:36] <stisev> and ahem, I dont want to use OSX as default
[01:37] <stisev> how did my friend get GRUB working with OSX+Slackware+XP
[01:37] <stisev> This is the guy I was planning to give root to
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't know, i don't use xp or osx
[01:37] <stisev> Heh
[01:38] <stisev> OSX is pretty cool
[01:38] <stisev> best irc clients ever
[01:38] <stisev> Ircle ^_^
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's very bling
[01:38] <stisev> It works well though
[01:38] <stisev> for people like my sister
[01:38] <bimberi> give him root access - then get him to set it up for you :)
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> give him sudo
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> (back to the begining of this ...)
[01:39] <bimberi> yes, sudo, that's what i meant :P
[01:39] <Hobbsee> somewhere on google
[01:39] <stisev> stisev: sudo apt-get install ssh will install the server
[01:39] <stisev> "sudo -i" gets you a root shell - as if you had logged in as root
[01:39] <stisev> that?
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: osx isnt out yet *cough* so i doubt it
[01:39] <stisev> I've checked google but no dice
[01:39] <Hobbsee> ok
[01:40] <stisev> I'm more adept @ Windows XP software
[01:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: `sudo apt-get install ssh && adduser matesaccount && gpasswd -a matesaccount admin`
[01:40] <stisev> not really familiar with linux
[01:41] <stisev> Kamping_Kaiser, that line right there will do everything
[01:41] <stisev> It seems like it installs SSH & gives my friend root
[01:41] <bimberi> yep
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: in theory yes
[01:41] <stisev> provided I put the name oft the account in "matesaccount"
[01:41] <stisev> what is &&?
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> if i got the gpasswd syntaxs correct
[01:41] <stisev> lol
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> && is 'if this finishes with 0 status (no error), do the next command'
[01:42] <treakath> hey all
[01:42] <bimberi> i think you'll need sudo all along
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> um, yes
[01:42] <DewDude> FINALLY
[01:42] <DewDude> I DID IT!
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:42] <stisev> alright guys
[01:42] <bimberi> "sudo adduser matesaccount admin" also does the last bit
[01:42] <stisev> I'm going to go reinstall Kubuntu
[01:42] <DewDude> it took me all night
[01:42] <DewDude> and 3 reinstalls
[01:42] <stisev> and try to boot it with OSX
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: thanks
[01:42] <DewDude> but it works!
[01:42] <stisev> and see what happens
[01:42] <stisev> thanks again guys
[01:43] <treakath> dose any1 here no any free song site to lisetn too song on the net???
[01:43] <stisev> actually wait
[01:43] <stisev> I wonder what version of Kubuntu I have
[01:43] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks for pointing out gpasswd - not seen it before :)
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: `cat /etc/issue`, or `uname -a`
[01:43] <stisev> Well
[01:43] <stisev> heh
[01:43] <stisev> Not on Linux
[01:43] <stisev> it's on the cd =p
[01:43] <stisev> What's with this breezy badger lol
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: i seem to be the only person in the world who uses it ;)
[01:44] <stisev> jesus
[01:44] <stisev> WTF? dvd formast
[01:44] <stisev> kubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso   3.06GB?
[01:44] <stisev> O_O
[01:44] <stisev> Why is that so damn big?
[01:44] <stisev> The one i have here is less than 1 CD in size
[01:44] <DewDude> cuz it's got the livecd and install CD
[01:45] <stisev> ah
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it's got all of main IIRC
[01:45] <stisev> you can boot directly from the cd
[01:45] <DewDude> yeah
[01:45] <seba> hello!
[01:45] <DewDude> i don't see where you really need the DVD
[01:45] <treakath> bradleys a bad bad boy
[01:45] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: gpasswd?
[01:45] <stisev> Can anyone point me to the just the install CD
[01:45] <seba> how can i make adept use a proxy?
[01:45] <DewDude> it's probably nice
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: yeh
[01:45] <stisev> wait
[01:45] <stisev> I see it
[01:45] <stisev> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[01:45] <stisev> is that it?
[01:46] <stisev> nevermind
[01:46] <Hobbsee> should be
[01:46] <bimberi> looks good to me
[01:46] <stisev> I need to read directions
[01:46] <DewDude> yeah
[01:46] <stisev> lol
[01:46] <stisev> 1.3MB/sec
[01:46] <stisev> not bad
[01:46] <DewDude> thar she be!
[01:46] <DewDude> heh
[01:46] <DewDude> i got that on the torrent
[01:46] <DewDude> around 1340
[01:46] <bimberi> 3 aussies stare jealously
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> LOL
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> so true
[01:47] <DewDude> so...i got monkeys audio to work in gstreamer
[01:47] <Hobbsee> definetly true!
[01:49] <bimberi> luxury
[01:50] <treakath> rob do you no any good free music site io??
[01:51] <treakath> ayn1 wi do k
[01:51] <treakath> will do
[01:51] <stisev> If anyone finds any ways to get GRUB working with OSX, please let me know
[01:51] <stisev> I know it's possible
[01:51] <stisev> I'm grabbing the latest ISO of kubuntu
[01:57] <stisev> anyways
[01:57] <stisev> ttyl
[01:59] <seba> ok
[01:59] <seba> i mounted my windows partition, works fine
[01:59] <seba> but... i can't play a single movie file
[01:59] <seba> does kubuntu have any codecs?
[01:59] <DewDude> it does
[01:59] <DewDude> !mp3
[02:00] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[02:00] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:00] <DewDude> there
[02:00] <seba> no mpg, no avi, no asf, no divx... nothing works!
[02:00] <seba> oh
[02:00] <DewDude> yeah
[02:00] <DewDude> read the restrictedformats page
[02:00] <seba> oki doki
[02:00] <DewDude> make sure you enable universe repositories
[02:02] <seba> im upgrading to kde 3.5 so i need to wait a bit :P
[02:05] <DewDude> i'm still on 3.4.3
[02:06] <seba> damn
[02:06] <seba> can't i set a proxy in adept?
[02:06] <seba> i would get much faster speeds with that :(
[02:06] <seba> in dapper i could set the proxy in setup, but dapper turned out to be a bit broken hehe
[02:07] <DewDude> you can probably set a proxy in your apt config
[02:07] <DewDude> it'd be whatever your apt config is
[02:07] <seba> uh
[02:08] <seba> where is that config?
[02:12] <seba> oh
[02:12] <seba> found a howto in the wiki
[02:12] <seba> nice wiki :)
[02:12] <seba> ah
[02:12] <seba> no :( not that was i looking for
[02:13] <taojah> anyone here use bitchx ??
[02:15] <maxmanbe> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/472977 ---> Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> maxmanbe: (glib-2.0 >= 2.7.1    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met. <-- make sure you have the latest versions of those files, using apt-cache search for a different package name, if needed
[02:18] <maxmanbe> Well, I installed all the latest versions of those
[02:18] <maxmanbe> then i did "sudo ldconfig", but it still doesnt detect it or something
[02:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[02:20] <maxmanbe> dammit without that gtk i can't get firefox to compile :'(
[02:23] <maxmanbe> could it be that the configure is looking in the wrong place?
[02:23] <Hobbsee> night all...
[02:23] <Hobbsee> why are you trying to compile firefox?
[02:24] <maxmanbe> because the regulad download doesn't work
[02:24] <maxmanbe> regular*
[02:24] <_gonzo> hello
[02:24] <VincentMX> hi
[02:24] <_gonzo> I have a problem with konqueror
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:24] <maxmanbe> but still i should be able to cmpile this '("'("( gtk
[02:25] <_gonzo> When i type some url konqueror is unable to join the site
[02:25] <_gonzo> but after a refresh it works
[02:25] <_gonzo> ?!?
[02:26] <StephenZhao> detail it
[02:26] <Hobbsee> maxmanbe: i had trouble compiling it as well - dont remember the exact error thought
[02:26] <maxmanbe> :( stupid thing
[02:26] <_gonzo> for example
[02:26] <_gonzo> www.google.com
[02:27] <_gonzo> it doesn't work
[02:27] <_gonzo> but if I refresh it works
[02:27] <_gonzo> it s the same way with amarok and the lyrics
[02:28] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:28] <raitchev> _gonzo, try to clear the cache
[02:29] <StephenZhao> or some cookies
[02:31] <raitchev> clear all
[02:31] <raitchev> or.. get opera/firefox
[02:31] <raitchev> :)
[02:33] <StephenZhao> good idea,firefox is nice
[02:33] <_gonzo> ok
[02:33] <_gonzo> thx
[02:33] <_gonzo> lol
[02:33] <_gonzo> but its for amarok and the lyrics
[02:33] <_gonzo> :)
[02:34] <raitchev> amarok?
[02:34] <raitchev> for what stuff do you use amarok? browsing?
[02:34] <StephenZhao> maybe some info about the CD,I guess
[02:35] <_gonzo> In fact amarok send the same error than konqueror
[02:35] <raitchev> mabye amarok use konqueror to browse pages
[02:35] <_gonzo> when I try to get the lyrics from the internet
[02:35] <raitchev> thats why you get the same error
[02:35] <_gonzo> I guess
[02:36] <raitchev> hm strange
[02:36] <raitchev> try to clear cache and cookies
[02:36] <StephenZhao> I use amarok too ,and sometimes, I can't get lyrics too
[02:39] <StephenZhao> I even thought that if amarok has a local lyrics pools,it will be better
[02:41] <DewDude> heh
[02:41] <DewDude> gstreamer makes my system a little sluggish
[02:42] <StephenZhao> maybe we can develop a plugin for it
[02:43] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[02:43] <Ti_Uhl> how do i add support for mp3 playback ?
[02:44] <raitchev> How do I play MP3s?
[02:44] <raitchev> Install the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine.
[02:44] <raitchev> In breezy you can add MP3 support to K3b by installing k3b-mp3.
[02:44] <raitchev> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[02:48] <Ti_Uhl> raitchev: thx
[02:48] <Ti_Uhl> it works
[02:48] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[02:49] <raitchev> :)
[02:49] <raitchev> np
[02:50] <taojah> hello can someone explain to me how to open tar.gz files  please ??
[02:50] <Trazi> With ark
[02:51] <raitchev> tar xvfz
[02:51] <raitchev> tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[02:51] <stisev> OK
[02:51] <taojah> 13:51 fr~raitche  : tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[02:51] <taojah> whats that mean
[02:51] <stisev> Anyone know how to configure GRUB to accept OSX as a partition?
[02:52] <raitchev> taojah, run Konsole
[02:52] <taojah> k
[02:52] <raitchev> det cd to file's directory
[02:52] <taojah> done
[02:52] <raitchev> then*
[02:52] <raitchev> and then type that
[02:52] <taojah> i dont understand this  det cd to file's directory
[02:53] <raitchev> then*
[02:53] <raitchev> like
[02:53] <raitchev> cd /home/myuser/applications
[02:53] <taojah> thats not makin anys sense to me sorry
[02:53] <taojah> ill go read
[02:53] <_tony> hi guys - i just installed kubuntu, and have problems getting adept to work (well, KDE su refuses my root password!) - but i can su to root from an xterm - any ideas?
[02:53] <taojah> i right click and save the .tar.gz file to my desktop ..then what
[02:57] <aftertaf> _tony:  change the command in the shortcut in the menu to "kdesu adept"
[02:57] <kakei> how can i add to my kicker panel an icon to go to my Desktop Easier
[02:57] <_tony> ok - trying - thx
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf
[02:57] <aftertaf> hi kk :)
[02:58] <DewDude> tony, go into terminal, type sudo adept
[02:58] <DewDude> it'll boot
[02:59] <aftertaf> kakei:  right click your panel, add applet > special button...
[02:59] <aftertaf> taojah:  open konsole, type cd Desktop
[02:59] <_tony> tony@control2:~$ sudo adept
[02:59] <_tony> Password:
[02:59] <_tony> Sorry, try again.
[02:59] <_tony> Password:
[02:59] <kakei> lol thx finnally
[02:59] <aftertaf> taojah:  that'll get you in the directory with your tar file.
[02:59] <DewDude> weird
[02:59] <aftertaf> _tony:  put your users password
[02:59] <aftertaf> not the root one (if you've enabled it)
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's up aftertaf
[03:00] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  hehe keeping going.... :] 
[03:00] <aftertaf> and you?
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> not bad.
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> leaving for Tas in 5 days
[03:01] <aftertaf> kool
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, you wont be seeing much of me untill febuary after that
[03:01] <aftertaf> xmas on the island? traditional barbie?
[03:01] <aftertaf> or work....
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> visiting rellies and stuff
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> then off to newzealand :D
[03:02] <aftertaf> i've got me a new job too.... so as of 9th jan may not be on irc much too
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> jees.(that's cool?)
[03:05] <aftertaf> cool for the job bit yeah :)
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> good :) that's the important bit
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> long as i can catch you when you are on, it's all good :)
[03:06] <laser_tk> !skype
[03:06] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:06] <aftertaf> all  good :]  yeah ;)
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:07] <rev> !wireless
[03:07] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:08] <_newbie_> I have some problems open a file i have on a CD 'cause (K)ubuntu doesn't show the swedish letters in the filename correctly, anyone who can help me out with this?
[03:08] <aftertaf> !se
[03:08] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, aftertaf
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: maybe
[03:11] <_newbie_> The rest of my OS is in swedish and shows all letters correctly so i dont know why the files on the CD is f****d up
[03:11] <aftertaf> maybe the mount line in fstab has a bad codepage?
[03:12] <Potus_> hi
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Potus_
[03:12] <_newbie_> aftertaf: How do I attend that then?
[03:13] <_tony> aftertaf: ->xterm ->su ->apt-get install sux - and then sux to root accepts passwd and adept is running now - but surely somethin is wrong somewhere?
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: open konsole, then run `grep cdrom /etc/fstab`
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> and tell us what it puts out
[03:15] <_newbie_> "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0"
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> `iso9660 user` i think that should read `iso9660,user`
[03:17] <aftertaf> sux?
[03:17] <aftertaf> !info sux
[03:17] <ubotu> sux: (wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[03:18] <aftertaf> oki
[03:18] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: How do i do to change that?
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: in your konsole window type `sudo nano /etc/fstab`
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> then like a text editor
[03:20] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Didn't work well, unable to mount the CD now
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh ok
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't do that then :|
[03:21] <mzungu> aftertaf: sux is a useful tool to have! only way i solved my prob!
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: if you look at the cd in konquer does it have corrupt file names?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> and if you look at the files in a terminal are the files names corrupted
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> umm... if i grep a file and find the thing that i need to find, is it possible to split that result up? like doing another grep to do that?
[03:22] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes
[03:22] <mzungu> ubotu: did you see the earlier prob of kdesu not accepting root passwd?
[03:22] <ubotu> mzungu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hyperactivecrond: just pipe it into another grep
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure of how to use grep to do it
[03:23] <Zugot> why does my mouse pointer always move to the bottom left hand corner of the screen?
[03:23] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: But it's shown correctly in Win
[03:23] <Zugot> its fairly annoying
[03:23] <aftertaf> i changed the command in the icon and it works.
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> Kamping_Kaiser: that much i'm aware of...
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: yes, but your on a live cd
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> hyperactivecrond: `grep blah filename |grep foo`
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:25] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: If that was meant as a question; no
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> Kamping_Kaiser: err no because the thing that i'm looking for is in the same line
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, cut?
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: not sure.
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> your locale might not be set correctly?
[03:28] <_newbie_> I can't change charset to the correct iso 8859-1 on the CD either
[03:28] <_newbie_> ...but to all others
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> try copying one of the files that isnt being read correctly to the hdd, and see if it displays correctly
[03:31] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Nope, it's not showing it right
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> i don't know what could be causing it I'm afraid
[03:34] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Sad :( I appreciate your help anyway! Thanks!
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry. good luck :|
[03:38] <ice9> need help with chroot ?
[03:38] <ice9> ./etc/fstab in giving a hard time
[03:39] <ice9> anyone around
[03:41] <bhna> need help with adaptec ah 2940U. my computer stop 30 sec after loading aic7xxx modul. how can i change this. i have only an hp scanjet 3p.
[03:45] <koe1> any developpers in here?
[03:46] <ice9> does anyone have chroot on there system
[03:47] <ice9> ?
[03:47] <Hattori> hello
[03:47] <ice9> hey
[03:47] <ice9> do you have chroot
[03:47] <Hattori> trying to mount xp shared folders on kubuntu
[03:47] <Hattori> i was able to do it
[03:48] <Hattori> but can't set fstab to do auto after reboot
[03:48] <Hattori> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lhj22a53.html
[03:48] <Hattori> this is my fstab at the moment
[03:48] <Hattori> after reboot i get empty folders =\
[03:49] <Hattori> while if i do smbmount command i'm able to mount them
[03:49] <Hattori> any clue?
[03:49] <ice9> hmm
[03:49] <ice9> should be able to
[03:49] <Hattori> indeed
[03:49] <Hattori> dunno why it doesn't
[03:50] <Hattori> any way to create a dir on kde destop that when opened launch the mount command?
[03:53] <mips> Hi, how do I edit my network settings. I cant seem to find Admin Mode button ?
[03:53] <ice9> you can use vi to edit them
[03:57] <_newbie_> mips: I have the same problem, some windows seems to be bigger than the screen, and they cant be resized either
[03:58] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:00] <mips> _newbie_: There must be a way to set this, would be very stupid if you cant.
[04:03] <_newbie_> mips: Sure there is but i don't know how
[04:04] <martinjh99> _newbie_ There are updated packages that supposedly fix that problem in breezy-updates repo...
[04:05] <martinjh99> Add these two lines to/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <martinjh99> #
[04:05] <martinjh99> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted
[04:05] <martinjh99> #
[04:05] <martinjh99> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted
[04:05] <martinjh99> ignore the #
[04:06] <_newbie_> Thx
[04:07] <Zugot> and change the gb to us if you are in the united states
[04:08] <_newbie_> maybe se then 'cause im in Sweden
[04:08] <Zugot> _newbie_: se should work
[04:08] <ice9> sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf
[04:08] <ice9> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:09] <ice9> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:09] <ice9> (gedit:12765): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:09] <Zugot> umu has a ubuntu archive
[04:09] <ice9> I get this error when trying to access gedit
[04:09] <mips> martinjh99: That did not seem to work ?
[04:10] <martinjh99> You need to do apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:11] <mips> martinjh99: Will try again, used Adapt....
[04:13] <jjesse> how do i get khelpcenter to register for katapult?
[04:21] <Lacerta> i have a file of path names. how can i access those from shell?
[04:22] <chx> hi. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36062&highlight=artifact I am getting this under Kubuntu.
[04:23] <robotgeek> Lacerta: "man xargs"
[04:24] <chx> also this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=553780&postcount=2
[04:24] <Lacerta> thanks robotgeek
[04:24] <chx> both says that the artifcats I see on my LCD driven by an nVidia chip is metacityproblems. but I have KDE
[04:41] <_newbie_>  Bill and his young wife wakes up after their first marriage night. The woman says: "Finally, I found out, why you called your company "MicroSoft".
[04:51] <melonipoika> hi, anyone could please tell me how to change the session administrator? i isntaled kubuntu from ubuntu, so now when i start it is gnome the one by defect
[04:53] <robotgeek> melonipoika: when you login, in your screen choose sessions, and then kde
[04:53] <melonipoika> yes, that screen is the one i would like to change
[04:53] <melonipoika> the one where you choose the sessions
[04:54] <Riddell> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:54] <robotgeek> melonipoika: you want to make changes to the theme? or change it to kdm from gdm?
[04:54] <robotgeek> morning Riddell
[04:54] <melonipoika> to change to kde from gdm
[04:54] <Riddell> afternoon robotgeek
[04:54] <robotgeek> Riddell: :)
[04:54] <robotgeek> melonipoika: then do what Riddell said
[04:54] <melonipoika> thanks
[04:54] <rev> why does my wlan interface do not automatically get an IP from the dhcpd when I start wpa_supplicant? I have to start dhclient manually
[04:56] <melonipoika> thanks, and now a more important question...
[04:56] <melonipoika> it doesn't automount the usb devices anymore, how can i reconfigure it?
[04:56] <melonipoika> i can't mount usb drives, or camera...
[04:57] <melonipoika> i had this problem before and i corrected it reinstalling hal and hotplug though synaptic
[04:57] <melonipoika> but it dosn't work anymore...
[04:57] <robotgeek> Riddell: what is the equivalent of gnome-volume-manager in KDE?
[04:58] <Riddell> robotgeek: breezy uses ivman, KDE 3.5 uses kded_mediamanager
[04:59] <robotgeek> thanks
[04:59] <_newbie_> Is the latest version of KDE multilanguage?
[04:59] <robotgeek> melonipoika: you are on breezy, right?
[04:59] <melonipoika> yes
[05:00] <robotgeek> melonipoika: try typing ivman in a konsole
[05:00] <melonipoika> ok ,moment
[05:01] <melonipoika> it is saying "running in user mode"
[05:01] <robotgeek> melonipoika: now try plugging in a usb storage device
[05:03] <melonipoika> ok, now i have it plugged
[05:03] <robotgeek> what did ivman say, melonipoika ?
[05:04] <melonipoika> it didn't say anything... still saying "running in user mode"
[05:04] <robotgeek> melonipoika: hmm, okay..let me try here
[05:04] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[05:05] <robotgeek> melonipoika: can you kill it (ctrl + c), then "ps -ef | grep ivman"
[05:06] <melonipoika> yes
[05:06] <melonipoika> jose      9470  9373  0 15:56 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/ivman -s --nofork
[05:06] <melonipoika> jose     14949 14418  0 18:06 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ivman
[05:06] <melonipoika> this are the output
[05:07] <robotgeek> melonipoika: so, it was running before too.
[05:08] <robotgeek> melonipoika: maybe, restart hal with sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:08] <melonipoika> ok, i will try
[05:09] <melonipoika> ok, i did it, and when i ent to media, i got an error saying that the kde device manager is not running
[05:09] <Lacerta> how do i know if a path name is a directory instead of a file
[05:11] <robotgeek> Lacerta: man test
[05:11] <robotgeek> melonipoika: ps -ef | grep ivman, sorry
[05:11] <melonipoika> btw, either the ntfs partition is mounted (but this one is working fine in gnome, the usb is not working in gnome either)
[05:11] <robotgeek> melonipoika: hmm, weird
[05:12] <melonipoika> jose     15440 14418  0 18:11 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ivman
[05:12] <robotgeek> melonipoika: okay, it's not running.
[05:12] <melonipoika> ok, but still saying the same error message when opening media
[05:12] <melonipoika> ah
[05:12] <robotgeek> melonipoika: ivman -s
[05:13] <melonipoika> jose@lola:~$ ivman -s
[05:13] <melonipoika> ivman 0.6.3, http://ivman.sourceforge.net
[05:13] <melonipoika> Compiled against HAL 0.5.x or later
[05:13] <melonipoika> Running in system mode
[05:13] <melonipoika> daemonize.c:39 (daemonize) Daemonizing...
[05:13] <melonipoika> daemonize.c:71 (daemonize) Cannot open /var/run/ivman.pid
[05:14] <robotgeek> melonipoika: please don't paste in here
[05:14] <melonipoika> ok, i did the same with sudo
[05:14] <melonipoika> ok, sorry
[05:14] <melonipoika> i did sudo ivman -s and now i didn't get the erropr
[05:15] <bhsx> are there any samba gurus to help me with a little problem i'm having?  my xp(home) box can not access the shares on my kubuntu box...  i can see the shares, but when i click on them, it just keeps coming-up with the login screen
[05:16] <no0tic> hi, I've problems using my iPod with kde & ipodslave
[05:17] <no0tic> ipodslave doesn't work
[05:18] <_damien> Ya I tried installing ipodslave also and, can't get the ipod:/ thing to work in konqueror, but it works fine in amaroK
[05:18] <_damien> Not sure why, sorry =/
[05:19] <_damien> I had a quick question, how do a command to startup scripts? Couldn't find anything in the help about it...
[05:19] <no0tic> _damien, it doesn't work in amarok too
[05:20] <_damien> Oh really, that's strange, mine was working in amaroK even without having to install ipodslave.
[05:20] <_damien> that is before I installed it
[05:20] <robotgeek> _damien: do you want to start it off when kde logs in?
[05:20] <no0tic> _damien, with my ipod mini 2g it crashes
[05:21] <_damien> robotgeek: just whenever I boot up my computer really, so even before I log in if that possible?
[05:21] <_damien> but doing it after I log in would be fine also...
[05:21] <robotgeek> _damien: yes.
[05:21] <robotgeek> _damien: cp script tp /etc/init.d/
[05:22] <_damien> no0tic: I have a regular 40g ipod color
[05:22] <_damien> so that's it, just copy the command in /etc/init.d and it will run every time I boot my computer?
[05:22] <robotgeek> _damien: then, sudo update-rc.d ,script-name> defaults
[05:22] <_damien> ah ok
[05:23] <robotgeek> _damien: no , there
[05:23] <_damien> can I make a sym link instead of copying it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[05:23] <robotgeek> _damien: possibly, yes
[05:24] <melonipoika> robotgeek, some more ideas? should i check some configuration files to see what is wrong?
[05:24] <robotgeek> melonipoika: plug in your usb. then type dmesg
[05:24] <Foodcoman> Greetings
[05:25] <robotgeek> hey Foodcoman
[05:25] <melonipoika> ok, what should i look for in that list?
[05:25] <robotgeek> melonipoika: at the end, you shud see stuff with "sda mounted etc etc"
[05:25] <melonipoika> ok
[05:26] <_damien> thx robotgeek, gonna test it out
[05:26] <robotgeek> _damien: np
[05:26] <Foodcoman> Every day I appreciate Kubuntu more and more!   =)
[05:26] <melonipoika> there are some sda, but not sda mounted...
[05:27] <Foodcoman> =D
[05:27] <hugelmopf> Riddell: i also wanted to tell you, that your work in bringing kde to ubuntu is _very_ much appreciated!
[05:27] <robotgeek> melonipoika: hmm, okay. try "pmount /dev/sda1 /some/mount/point"
[05:27] <Foodcoman> Amen to what hugelmopf said.
[05:28] <ravenna> hi
[05:28] <hugelmopf> ubuntu just feels so right, it would be a shame if it would have to live without kde.
[05:28] <robotgeek> i'm really new to kubuntu, 2 days old :)
[05:28] <robotgeek> i hang in here for the cli issues :)
[05:28] <Foodcoman> Linus was quoted on saying that he likes KDE better!   Nuff said.
[05:29] <ravenna> hello
[05:29] <robotgeek> hey ravenna
[05:29] <ravenna> who r u
[05:29] <bhsx> yeah, cause Linus is the the king of useability knowledge  ;)
[05:29] <robotgeek> lol
[05:30] <ravenna> where r u from
[05:30] <Foodcoman> bhsx: hehehe
[05:30] <hugelmopf> melonipoika: about the pmount command above: "/some/mount/point" above actually has to be "/media/something"
[05:30] <Foodcoman> However one good argument is that the Gnome crowd are "C snobs".
[05:31] <ravenna> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[05:31] <Foodcoman> What is wrong with C++
[05:31] <bhsx> i'm in chicago burbs
[05:31] <robotgeek> ravenna: please stop doing that?
[05:31] <ravenna> what
[05:31] <ravenna> ????????
[05:31] <robotgeek> ravenna: typing question marks, exactly
[05:32] <robotgeek> ravenna: if you have a question, please feel free to ask
[05:32] <ravenna> who r u
[05:32] <robotgeek> ravenna: i'm a kubuntu user, and a volunteer
[05:32] <ravenna> oh
[05:33] <melonipoika> ok, i will restart because there is something wrong with my media directory, i get an error each time i try to open it
[05:33] <melonipoika> i willthen try pmount
[05:33] <melonipoika> thanks for your help, see you later!
[05:33] <melonipoika> (after rebooting)
[05:33] <robotgeek> melonipoika: later
[05:33] <ravenna> bye
[05:33] <ravenna> hello
[05:34] <ravenna> cheddar porcupines to all of u if some one dosen't talk to me
[05:35] <ravenna> mitja
[05:35] <Mitja> ravenna: what?
[05:35] <ravenna> hi
[05:35] <Mitja> hello
[05:36] <Foodcoman> Has anyone ran into an issue trying to open an .odt file from the "System Menu" - "Home Folder".  OOo starts to open the disappears.  However it works from Konqueror.
[05:36] <ravenna> what
[05:36] <Foodcoman> I noticed it after I installed Koffice, but not sure that had anything to do with it.
[05:37] <TooSad> hi
[05:37] <ravenna> hey toosad
[05:37] <TooSad> when i make apt-get update i have an error
[05:38] <TooSad> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[05:38] <TooSad> ravenna ciao
[05:38] <ravenna> what
[05:38] <TooSad> from the konsole i write sudo apt-get update
[05:38] <hugelmopf> TooSad: did you read in the announcement?
[05:39] <TooSad> at the end
[05:39] <TooSad> no
[05:39] <TooSad> what announcement?
[05:39] <hugelmopf> err, sorry.
[05:39] <hugelmopf> i thought you were talking about the kde-3.5 packages. you are not though, are you?
[05:39] <ravenna> what is ciao
[05:40] <ravenna> nm
[05:40] <ravenna> hello
[05:41] <hugelmopf> TooSad: if you are talking about KDE-3.5 or Amarok-1.3.7 packages, then look in the announcement how to get the key: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[05:41] <TooSad> yes but i don't tell this
[05:42] <TooSad> what kind of error i have?
[05:42] <TooSad> GPG error?
[05:42] <robotgeek> TooSad: yes
[05:42] <TooSad> what is this?
[05:42] <hugelmopf> not really an error, it's just a warning.
[05:42] <TooSad> this warning is due to?
[05:42] <hugelmopf> you have to import the public key to verify the packages' integrity. how you can do this, is posted in the announcement i linked to.
[05:43] <melonipoika_> hi again
[05:43] <melonipoika_> ok, now i got an icon on my desktop
[05:43] <ravenna> hi
[05:43] <TooSad> ok
[05:43] <TooSad> tnx
[05:43] <melonipoika_> (with the usb drive symbol)
[05:44] <robotgeek> melonipoika_: nice :)
[05:44] <Foodcoman> melonipoika_: pmount did the trick?
[05:44] <TooSad> i resorve it
[05:44] <TooSad> i resolve it
[05:45] <TooSad> tnx a lot
[05:45] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: maybe add to /topic ?
[05:45] <robotgeek> hmm, it's already there.
[05:45] <leafww> hi all. Where can one find a proper /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy ?
[05:46] <robotgeek> !easysource
[05:46] <ubotu> it has been said that easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:46] <leafww> should I just %s/Hoary/Breezy/g ?
[05:46] <robotgeek> leafww: pretty much
[05:46] <robotgeek> leafww: you might want to take a look at the upgrade guide
[05:46] <robotgeek> !breezy
[05:46] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:46] <leafww> robotgeek: url ?
[05:46] <leafww> thank you
[05:48] <melonipoika_> sorry, i have to go to lunch now
[05:49] <melonipoika_> thanks for your help
[05:49] <robotgeek> melonipoika_: np, i'm going to sleep :)
[05:49] <melonipoika_> ok, thank you very much
[05:51] <conn> hi, is it best to use dist-upgrade or just upgrade when I'm upgrading my dapper flight 2 system?
[05:51] <robotgeek> hmm, i'll let someone else anwser this one
[05:52] <l3m> any ideas? the whole thing compiles fine on debian: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zQdex659.html
[05:53] <robotgeek> l3m: compiler differences? i dunno what i am talkin about
[05:53] <Foodcoman> l3m: Must have different gcc stuff between systems.
[05:54] <Foodcoman> check deb system and compair version to what you have installed in Kubuntu.
[05:54] <Foodcoman> =(   compare
[06:04] <bhsx> OK.... i got the samba config all working... how do i get hamachi to start automatically in kubuntu?  i need to 'sudo /home/bhsx/hamachi/tuncfg' and 'sudo hamachi start'?  where would I put that/how would I do it?
[06:05] <robotgeek> bhsx: if it's a system service, it would generally have come with a init script in /etc/init.d/
[06:06] <bhsx> it's a VPN app, that's not setup as a service yet
[06:06] <TooSad> kde 3.5 is ok or not yet?
[06:06] <Foodcoman> If it is a registered service you can also used System Settings app then Services in the System Administration section.
[06:07] <bhsx> if it is not a registered service?
[06:07] <Foodcoman> Ah sorry bhsx
[06:07] <bhsx> check out hamachi.cc , it's a really neat little app
[06:08] <robotgeek> where can i find documentation about kapapult?
[06:10] <robotgeek> katapult, err
[06:13] <Ti_Uhl> hi
[06:15] <Ti_Uhl> i use kopete for im but i can only send messages to user when they started a chat with me, i can't start a chat myself, because then i get  : impossible to establish the connection, this happens with msn and icq
[06:17] <robotgeek> ejofee: okay, ask in here :)
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: ok, here's my question
[06:18] <ejofee> robotgeek: why does kubuntu lack all ubuntu tools and don't even have an entry for them in the menu?
[06:18] <robotgeek> ejofee: i'm new to kubuntu
[06:18] <robotgeek> ejofee: kubuntu is all kde, kde has different tools from gnome
[06:18] <ejofee> robotgeek: i am new to anything (k)ubuntu
[06:19] <ejofee> robotgeek: i thought the tools were ubuntu's
[06:19] <robotgeek> ejofee: the base system is the same, gui tools are different
[06:21] <Ti_Uhl> i use kopete for im but i can only send messages to user when they started a chat with me, i can't start a chat myself, because then i get  : impossible to establish the connection, this happens with msn only ... anyone ?
[06:22] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: Sounds like a NAT or filter problem.
[06:22] <Foodcoman> Firewall?
[06:22] <Ti_Uhl> Foodcoman: never had any problems with it before
[06:22] <Ti_Uhl> i switchted to kubuntu today
[06:22] <Ti_Uhl> and gaim didn't have any problems before
[06:22] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:22] <bhsx> does anyone know how to run a script as root during startup?
[06:22] <Ti_Uhl> and icq works perfectly
[06:23] <robotgeek> bhsx: hmm, take a look at man update-rc.d
[06:23] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: I had a buddy working with kopete that had a similar prob.  He switch to gaim and prob went away.
[06:23] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: Any personal reason you wont run Gaim on Kubuntu?
[06:24] <Ti_Uhl> because gaim is gtk ?
[06:24] <Ti_Uhl> and kopete qt ?
[06:24] <Ti_Uhl> won't that look ugly ?
[06:24] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: Doesnt .
[06:24] <Foodcoman> I use many GTK apps.
[06:24] <Foodcoman> Let me install it and see.
[06:24] <Foodcoman> Sec
[06:24] <Ti_Uhl> ok: :)
[06:25] <Ti_Uhl> tvon: then how do i fix the problem ?
[06:25] <Ti_Uhl> if i can't use msn then kopete isn't really an option for me :)
[06:25] <tvon> Ti_Uhl: It's MSN related? I don't use MSN
[06:25] <tvon> ;)
[06:25] <tvon> Sorry, I'm no help there
[06:25] <manveru> kopete supports msn
[06:25] <Ti_Uhl> belguim is to fucking msn minded :)
[06:26] <manveru> as well as yim, aim, icq, gadugadu, jabber and whatnot else
[06:26] <Ti_Uhl> manveru: but it doens't work
[06:26] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:26] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: its downloading in the PM now.
[06:26] <manveru> soo, why does it work for me? :)
[06:26] <tvon> does gaim work?
[06:26] <Foodcoman> Slow connection.
[06:27] <manveru> my problem with kopete is that it's too slow
[06:27] <tvon> manveru: in refreshing chat windows?
[06:27] <Ti_Uhl> i can only recieve messages, and send some back once the chat is started
[06:27] <manveru> i open a msg-window and it takes 15 seconds for it...
[06:27] <Ti_Uhl> but i can't seem to start my own chat
[06:27] <Ti_Uhl> manveru: lol
[06:27] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:27] <manveru> this is why i use gaim
[06:27] <tvon> manveru: that sounds excessive.... I notie it's a little slow in drawing messages, but thats about it
[06:28] <manveru> tvon: not only for opening windows, but also for sending messages
[06:28] <Ti_Uhl> btw i like the smooth scrolling in kopete :)
[06:28] <robotgeek> kopete saw my webcam :)
[06:28] <Ti_Uhl> that's just awesome :)
[06:28] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: Gaim looks beautiful.
[06:28] <Ti_Uhl> ok
[06:28] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:28] <Ti_Uhl> then i'll try using that :)
[06:28] <manveru> Ti_Uhl: as long as it's minimized
[06:28] <robotgeek> lol
[06:29] <Foodcoman> hehehe.
[06:29] <Ti_Uhl> btw the kubuntu package manger is way better then the one in ubuntu :)
[06:29] <robotgeek> i doesn't matter to me, i apt-get
[06:29] <Ti_Uhl> jah
[06:29] <tvon> Ti_Uhl: adept?
[06:30] <Ti_Uhl> yeps
[06:30] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:30] <Foodcoman> I wish there were more details on an installed item in adept......  synaptic give a little more detail.
[06:30] <tvon> adept is pretty nice
[06:30] <manveru> robotgeek: you have a cron-job for installing new apps?! :)
[06:31] <robotgeek> manveru: for updates, i don't use that many apps.
[06:31] <manveru> reminds me of the annoying gstreamer-upgrade
[06:31] <robotgeek> manveru: a screen and irssi keeps me happy :)
[06:31] <manveru> well, i was trying this config some while...
[06:31] <tvon> screen is the greatest thing ever written
[06:32] <robotgeek> yeah, vim is a close second
[06:32] <manveru> but konversation is better for me
[06:32] <Ti_Uhl> ok
[06:32] <Ti_Uhl> the font in gtk apps is screwed
[06:32] <Ti_Uhl> but i saw some setting where i could change that :)
[06:32] <manveru> Ti_Uhl: no, it always looks that way :)
[06:33] <robotgeek> manveru: come one
[06:33] <robotgeek> s/one/on
[06:33] <Ti_Uhl> manveru:
[06:33] <robotgeek> it isn't that bad
[06:33] <Ti_Uhl> manveru: it looks better when i change it
[06:33] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:33] <Ti_Uhl> way better :)
[06:33] <Ti_Uhl> now is there a way to change the systray icon to make it transparent
[06:33] <Ti_Uhl> because now it's in a white square :)
[06:34] <manveru> this is just normal
[06:34] <manveru> however, there might be a way by replacing the icons
[06:34] <Ti_Uhl> apart from that
[06:34] <Ti_Uhl> everything looks great :)
[06:34] <Ti_Uhl> is it normal that gaim doesn't show up in the start menu ?
[06:35] <manveru> robotgeek: well, i really hate the way gtk looks, but i have to use xfce - my computer is just too slow with kde
[06:35] <robotgeek> manveru: hmm, okay
[06:35] <tvon> gnome is prettier than kde
[06:35] <DrBair> manveru: icewm is pretty light too if you prefer the look of that
[06:36] <tvon> I don't know if it's QT or the HIG or what, but kde widgets never quite look right to me
[06:36] <angasule> tvon: do you have any screenshots? I haven't used a proper gnome desktop in some time
[06:36] <Foodcoman> Ti_Uhl: It added to my Internet section automatically when I just installed it.
[06:36] <manveru> DrBair: no, i'm happy with xfce now... tried about 10 other DEs... the only one i could be happy with is e17
[06:36] <Ti_Uhl> Foodcoman: fixed it :)
[06:36] <tvon> angasule: no, I moved wholesale to kde a few days ago
[06:37] <angasule> tvon: theme has a lot to do with it, since I barely use gnome, I never bother setting it up properly, and it shows
[06:38] <manveru> angasule: i use for qt-apps the baghira-theme and for gtk the aqua-likes - they merge pretty well
[06:38] <tvon> angasule: KDE always seems to screw up my gnome settings, gnome apps don't look great in kde at all... but I don't care that much so I haven't looked into it at all
[06:38] <tvon> qt themes applied to gnome apps never looks right though
[06:39] <angasule> tvon: err, well, I use kde apps in kde :)
[06:39] <tvon> angasule: yeah, I'm just sayin
[06:39] <angasule> tvon: windows apps in linux look positively horrible, too heh
[06:39] <tvon> angasule: heh, yes they do
[06:42] <Ti_Uhl> i've got to go
[06:42] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:42] <Ti_Uhl> thx for the help
[06:42] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[06:42] <Ti_Uhl> cu
[06:42] <heavy_> I have a problem (dhuuu).. When i try to start kubunu normaly as soon as it??'s about to start x the computer reboots. I have an Nvidia 6800 gf card? any clues. i have tryed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and updated the system .. nothing helps
[06:44] <heavy_> I have a problem (dhuuu).. When i try to start kubunu normaly as soon as it??'s about to start x the computer reboots. I have an Nvidia 6800 gf card? any clues. i have tryed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and updated the system .. nothing helps.
[06:45] <heavy_> In the void that is ideling irc freaks no one can hear you scream
[06:46] <manveru> however, maybe can ubotu help you
[06:46] <angasule> heavy_: do you know which driver you are using? 'nv' or 'nvidia'?
[06:46] <manveru> !nvidia
[06:46] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:47] <heavy_> angasule: no idea atm .. i'm in this dream world where i assumed that i don't need to care about stuff like that anymore
[06:48] <angasule> heavy_: yeah, well, nvidia and their binary drivers... can't live without 'em, can't have stability with 'em :P
[06:49] <Snake|Sleeping> Hey guys, quick question, if I switch to xfce from KDE, will all the terminal commands be the same?
[06:49] <manveru> Snake|Sleeping: yep
[06:49] <Snake|Sleeping> Okay, one more, if I switch, I wont have like "Kate" or "Konsole" or any of that will I? It will all be diffrent programs
[06:50] <manveru> you will still have them
[06:50] <Snake|Sleeping> Why would I still have them, arn't those KDE programs?
[06:50] <manveru> tho i recommend you switch to gnome-terminal since it provides transparency (konsole doesn't get this right)
[06:51] <manveru> they will still run in xfce
[06:51] <Snake|Sleeping> I'm talking about doing a server install, right to xubuntu-desktop
[06:51] <manveru> i see, so you don't have them installed already?
[06:51] <Snake|Sleeping> Right now i'm on the KDE/xfce set up, and I like xfce a lot
[06:52] <Snake|Sleeping> But I assume I have to reformat to get KDE off the system
[06:52] <manveru> in that case you may switch to xfce-apps like mousepad
[06:52] <manveru> why would you reformat?
[06:52] <Snake__> How would you get KDE gone?
[06:52] <Snake__> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop?
[06:53] <manveru> just check the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <Johnson> hi
[06:53] <angasule> hi Johnson
[06:53] <Snake__> manveru: how would I do that?
[06:54] <Mr-Falkor> hi Johnson
[06:54] <manveru> Snake__: wait a second
[06:54] <Snake__> apt-get check kubuntu-desktop didn't really do anything
[06:54] <manveru> Snake__: of course - this was only a methaphor... - please give me a bit
[06:55] <Snake__> Oh :) Ok
[06:56] <Snake__> Would it be apt-cache showpkg?
[06:56] <melonipoika> hi all
[06:56] <Snake__> Hello
[06:56] <melonipoika> i continue with my mounting problems :D
[06:56] <Snake__> manveru: apt-cache showpkg kubuntu-desktop??
[06:57] <melonipoika> i can see my units mounted in /media, but konqueror is looking at system/media
[06:57] <melonipoika> are they the same?
[06:57] <melonipoika> pardon, system:/media
[06:57] <Snake__> melonipoika: I think it's a KDE bug IMHO, because mine does it too
[06:57] <manveru> Snake__: ok, got it
[06:57] <Snake__> what is it?
[06:57] <manveru> Snake__: apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <Snake__> ok
[06:58] <melonipoika> ah, ok
[06:58] <Johnson> hi agian
[06:58] <Johnson> irc keeps stopping?
[06:58] <melonipoika> so then i need to go to /media manually each time, the laucher does't work?
[06:58] <Snake__> manveru: what do I do with this information now
[06:59] <Johnson> dose any one know how i can see if my hardware is compatible with a theme i downloaded???
[06:59] <Johnson> f
[07:00] <manveru> Snake__: you remove the packages that it lists... there is a command for that too afaik...
[07:00] <Snake__> manveru: But I just did a apt-cache to xfce, it says that it depends on those as well
[07:01] <Snake__> manveru: so if I remove those it would screw up xfce as well wouldn't it?
[07:01] <manveru> Snake__: on those?
[07:01] <manveru> you first remove them, and reinstall xfce
[07:01] <manveru> xubuntu-desktop that is
[07:01] <Snake__> Ok I could do that
[07:02] <manveru> it will not screw anything up
[07:02] <manveru> since your configuration will stay the same
[07:02] <Snake__> Umm...so whats the command to remove the list, if I apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop, would that take it all?
[07:03] <seth_k|lappy> no
[07:03] <Johnson> is there anyway i can get rid of the lag on irc?
[07:04] <Snake__> Johnson: move closer to the server, or get a faster connection :P
[07:04] <seth_k|lappy> get a lower-ping router / net connection
[07:04] <seth_k|lappy> he's gone though
[07:04] <Snake__> lol
[07:04] <Snake__> manveru: do you know the command to remove all these dependencys?
[07:04] <manveru> Snake__: i'm just searching
[07:05] <sharket> hello, how can i play .rm files '
[07:05] <Snake__> ah okay, I was looking through man files as well
[07:05] <seth_k|lappy> there really isn't one. You can just look at `apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop` and start removing goodies
[07:05] <seth_k|lappy> sharket, install realplayer from multiverse
[07:05] <sharket> i tried mplayer, buy i can't
[07:05] <sharket> ahh
[07:05] <Snake__> Ew realplayer
[07:05] <Snake__> That program was so such a piece of crap
[07:06] <Snake__> always such a*
[07:06] <sharket> anyway, where can i put the codecs then ?
[07:06] <sharket> bucause i readed all of that but i can't :(
[07:07] <sharket> don't know how to put those  codecs
[07:07] <manveru> !restrictedformats
[07:07] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:07] <Snake__> when you install RP you should get the codecs with it I believe
[07:08] <manveru> seth_k|lappy: you're sure?
[07:08] <sharket> yes but not for divx
[07:08] <sharket> !FreeFormats
[07:08] <ubotu> I heard freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:08] <Snake__> ubotu: tell sharket about restricedformats
[07:09] <Snake__> ...
[07:09] <Snake__> ubotu: tell sharket about restrictedformats
[07:10] <Snake__> sharket: go down to where it says "The Codecs" and do waht it sys
[07:10] <sharket> thx :)
[07:10] <Snake__> says*
[07:10] <sharket> i'm doing, thx
[07:11] <Snake__> Yulp
[07:19] <sharket> i had problems with apt-get
[07:19] <sharket> :S
[07:19] <sharket> can't find make-jpkg
[07:20] <sharket> i think i have something wrong it never updates
[07:20] <sharket> :S
[07:20] <Snake__> Hold on
[07:20] <thoreauputic> !info make-jpkg
[07:21] <thoreauputic> no such package...
[07:21] <Snake__> I didnt think so
[07:21] <sharket> me neither
[07:21] <Snake__> Sharket, can you paste bin you sources.list
[07:21] <sharket> maybe i need a better sourceslist
[07:22] <sharket> sure
[07:22] <thoreauputic> java-package?
[07:23] <Snake__> ahhh
[07:23] <Snake__> WHy the hell does it do this??
[07:23] <seth_k|lappy> server split
[07:24] <tvon>  /msg superfine ayt?
[07:24] <tvon> erm
[07:24] <Snake__> seth_k|lappy: so would I remove all the dependencys and then kubuntu-desktop?
[07:24] <Snake__> or kubuntu-desktop then the dependencys
[07:25] <seth_k|lappy> Snake__, remove kubuntu-desktop first
[07:25] <Snake__> Okie dokie
[07:25] <leafw> does anyone know how to disable the 'alt' key from dragging windows around? I need it to simulate my middle button in Blender.
[07:25] <sharket> http://pastebin.com/473373 Snake__
[07:25] <leafw> yes macs are kindda crippled
[07:26] <sharket> still i can't
[07:26] <Snake__> Now if I screw something up, I can just sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop right seth_k|lappy ?
[07:26] <sharket> Snake__:  which one do u use ?
[07:27] <Snake__> Hmm your source list looks right...
[07:27] <seth_k|lappy> Snake__, yeah
[07:27] <Snake__> sharket: Might I suggest you put "#" back for the backports
[07:27] <sharket> harket@whitebox:/home/username/.mozilla/plugins$ sudo apt-get install make-jpkg
[07:27] <sharket> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[07:27] <sharket> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[07:27] <sharket> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete make-jpkg
[07:28] <sharket> backports '
[07:28] <Snake__> English
[07:28] <thoreauputic> !info java-package
[07:28] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[07:28] <sharket> ok
[07:28] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[07:28] <Snake__> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[07:28] <Snake__> ## repository
[07:28] <Snake__> Where is says that, for those 2 sources, recomment them
[07:29] <Snake__> Or else you may end up getting older backports
[07:29] <Snake__> But other than that tiny thing, it all looks good
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sharket: you need the multiverse repository
[07:29] <Snake__> I would help you more but i'm about to go screw up my system, ill talk to ya all after its no longer broken :-P
[07:30] <sharket> whats that thoreauputic  ?
[07:30] <sharket> still i can't Snake__
[07:30] <sharket> :S
[07:30] <thoreauputic> !tell sharket about repos
[07:34] <melonipoika> !repos
[07:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:35] <taojah> hello, i am playing .mp4 video files on vlc player in kde but there is no audio, can anyone help me please??
[07:36] <sharket> :S
[07:37] <sharket> i used that multiversal on sources.list, but still i can't...
[07:37] <Lacerta> why do i have to install my GeForce drivers every time i reboot?
[07:38] <sharket> but, by the way, those multiversal don't means sources ?
[07:38] <sharket> well
[07:38] <seth_k|lappy> Foodcoman, hi
[07:39] <thoreauputic> sharket:  sudo apt-get update
[07:39] <sharket> i did before i tried
[07:39] <sharket> obviously
[07:40] <bobbyd> hi
[07:40] <thoreauputic> sharket: you do that *after* editing your sources :)
[07:40] <sharket> yes
[07:40] <sharket> if i did't how is going to update the soft list ? :)
[07:40] <thoreauputic> sharket: well if it didn't work you made a mistake :)
[07:41] <bobbyd> I want to send someone the kubuntu liveCD and then connect to the machine they run it on from the net. Would they have to set up a user to allow me to ssh in? or would I be able to get them just to set the password for the default user?
[07:41] <sharket> well, i just copied that sources.list
[07:41] <sharket> where's the mistake ?
[07:42] <seth_k|lappy> bobbyd, ssh server isn't installed by default; they'd have to install it first. But then you could just use the default user /password
[07:43] <bobbyd> seth_k|lappy, where do I find that out?
[07:43] <thoreauputic> sharket: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list then ( on the pastebin, not here ) ;-)
[07:44] <seth_k|lappy> bobbyd, on an ubuntu livecd the password is 'ubuntu' so it's probably either 'ubuntu' or 'kubuntu' for the kubuntu livecd
[07:44] <bobbyd> seth_k|lappy, ok :)
[07:45] <sharket> http://pastebin.com/473395, thoreauputic
[07:47] <thoreauputic> sharket: looks OK - what does   apt-cache search java-package  say ?
[07:48] <Snake__> seth_k|lappy: I give up lol, to many packages to uninstall
[07:48] <sharket> uh works
[07:49] <sharket> my wrong thing was, i didn't know that package have that tool
[07:49] <sharket> inside
[07:49] <thoreauputic> sharket: apt-cache show <packagename> to see what it does
[07:49] <sharket> i installed :)
[07:50] <sharket> thx, but tell me one thing why i needed those sources ?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> sharket: multiverse cotains some "non-free" packages (java, various multimedia things etc)
[07:51] <sharket> but if u don't wanna join in don't ah, very good
[07:51] <sharket> thanks :)
[07:51] <sharket> i'm quite newbie in ubuntu's world :)
[07:52] <thoreauputic> sharket: Ubuntu/Canonical have to be careful about legalities
[07:52] <thoreauputic> so the repos are divided like that
[07:52] <sharket> i see
[07:52] <thoreauputic> main is supported by Canonical
[07:53] <thoreauputic> universe is community supported
[07:54] <tadaen> nice to see so many people around in case one needs help :)
[07:54] <sharket> hehe, sure
[07:54] <sharket> i appreciate it really :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> this is nothing :) There are over 600 in #ubuntu :)
[07:55] <jjesse> and it is incredibly busy sometimes :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> indeed
[07:56] <thoreauputic> aee you !
[07:56] <apokryphos> adieu
[08:00] <bobbyd> is there a GUI for enabling services in /etc/init.d ?
[08:00] <bobbyd> like sshd for example
[08:01] <DHGE> bobbyd: kind of rcconf (universe)
[08:01] <_heavy> thanx for the help earlier getting x started
[08:02] <Snake__> Hey quick poll to everyone in this room that knows what their talking about: Erase KDE, and install Xfce, or Reformat with server install, and add xfce from that
[08:04] <Zugot> just install kde without erasing xfce...
[08:05] <Snake__> No, I want xfce, not KDE lol
[08:05] <Zugot> reverse that...
[08:05] <Zugot> :)
[08:05] <Snake__> Thats what I got now, but why have 2 window managers taking up space?
[08:06] <jjesse> easiest way to install eclipse on breezy?
[08:07] <blanky> hey guys
[08:11] <slow-motion> re
[08:15] <heavy_> Ok... now sh nvidia.... worked fine and xstarted BUT when i reboot X do not start and i have to sh nvidia... all over again.. i'm probably missing something basic (loading of nvidia kernel module (if that is the right term)).. the guid said nothing about thiat
[08:16] <Lacerta> where is the nvidia-kernel module and can i load it from shell?
[08:17] <Lacerta> heavy_: so you too must install it again when you reboot?
[08:17] <heavy_> Lacerta: yes.. i think i need to do exactly what you asked about..
[08:17] <Lacerta> i've been trying to figure it out for hours
[08:18] <heavy_> Lacerta: probably somthing in /etc/modules
[08:18] <MrMazda> for any who might care to discuss, I just filed bugs 21374 & 21375
[08:19] <seth_k|lappy> jjesse, Eclipse is in the repos, just install it
[08:20] <heavy_> Lacerta: you must downlad the drivers from www.nvidia.com? the sh $DRIVER_NAME
[08:20] <seth_k|lappy> jjesse, it's even 3.1
[08:20] <Lacerta> heavy_: yeah that's right
[08:20] <heavy_> Lacerta: you done that and got it to work?
[08:21] <Lacerta> heavy_: what the install?
[08:21] <heavy_> Lacerta: i have and i can start x after that but after reboot is seems that the nvidia kernel module is not loaded
[08:21] <Lacerta> heavy_: yeah we seem to have the same problem
[08:22] <seth_k|lappy> forgive me for not scrolling up, but why aren't you guys just using nvidia-glx from the repos? You need the newest version?
[08:23] <heavy_> where do the modules end up?
[08:24] <heavy_> X refuced to start for me so i followed a guide..
[08:25] <heavy_> now all that is left is to get the module loaded at start..
[08:25] <heavy_> and i don't know how..
[08:28] <tvon> erm, can kmail compose html emails?
[08:29] <tvon> dammit
[08:30] <heavy_> if one compiles a kernel module where do it end up?
[08:32] <bobbyd> heavy_, /usr/src/linux_xxx
[08:32] <bobbyd> ?
[08:35] <Foodcoman> hey kkathman
[08:35] <Foodcoman> =)
[08:35] <heavy_> *going bannas* what do i type in /etc/modules to load the nvidia drivers at boot?
[08:35] <kkathman> hey there Foodcoman :)
[08:42] <sharket> mmm
[08:42] <sharket> i''m checking some webs but i don't know where to donwload java packeges yet...
[08:44] <Blissex> sharket: the Ubuntu Wiki has a page on that.
[08:44] <Blissex> ubotu: java
[08:44] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:44] <Blissex> ubotu: javadebs
[08:44] <sharket> i'm doing that
[08:45] <sharket> i can't find sources
[08:45] <Blissex> !javadebs
[08:45] <sharket> tar -zxf ibm-java2-sdk-50-linux-ppc.tgz
[08:45] <sharket> sudo mv ibm-java2-sdk-50-linux-ppc /opt/
[08:45] <sharket> tar what, if u don't have .tgz u can't do nothing
[08:45] <sharket> :(
[08:45] <robin> how do i mount an harddrive with write acces?? i wrote rw,user,umask=022 in my fstab but it is not mounted and when i mount it in konsole i cant write to it
[08:45] <Blissex> sharket: look at the avadebs'factoid for ubotu
[08:45] <Blissex> sharket: for PPC things are super extra complicated.
[08:45] <sharket> i see
[08:46] <sharket> avadebs'factoid what the hell is that
[08:46] <Blissex> sharket: however from javadebs: IBM Java debs (for PPC) are at http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/
[08:46] <sharket>  if you download the .tgz file.
[08:46] <sharket> from where ? from java webpage u need be an user
[08:46] <sharket> ok, let me check it
[08:48] <sharket> i'm dowloading those
[08:48] <sharket> thanks Blissex  :)
[08:48] <robin> "/dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type vfat (rw)" get this when i type mount. then i should be able to write to it... but i still cant
[08:48] <Blissex> tell sharket about javadebs
[08:48] <Blissex> !tell sharket about javadebs
[08:48] <Blissex> sharket: thats the javadebs factoid...
[08:49] <sharket> :))
[08:49] <ronni32> nacht
[08:49] <ronni32> igall
[08:49] <ronni32> ~# graveman
[08:49] <ronni32> umount: /dev/hdc ist nicht eingehngt
[08:49] <ronni32> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x080b6270 ***
[08:49] <ronni32> Abgebrochen
[08:49] <ronni32> !!
[08:49] <ubotu> ??
[08:49] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[08:50] <ronni32> k3b -> io-error
[08:50] <gattonero> hi
[08:50] <ronni32> i cant burn a cd
[08:51] <ronni32> System
[08:51] <ronni32> -----------------------
[08:51] <ronni32> K3b Version: 0.12.10
[08:51] <ronni32> KDE Version: 3.5.0
[08:51] <ronni32> QT Version:  3.3.5
[08:51] <ronni32> Kernel:      2.6.15-7-686
[08:51] <ronni32> Devices
[08:51] <ronni32> -----------------------
[08:51] <ronni32> HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4080N 0010 (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-Rom; DVD-Rom]  [DVD-Rom; CD-Rom; CD-R; CD-RW]  [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R96P; SAO/R96R; RAW/R16; RAW/R96P; RAW/R96R] 
[08:51] <seth_k|lappy> oy ronni32 !
[08:51] <seth_k|lappy> don't paste into the channel
[08:52] <robin> "/dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type vfat (rw)" get this when i type mount. then i should be able to write to it... but i still cant
[08:52] <seth_k|lappy> always use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:52] <Snake__> Whats the command to log off...
[08:52] <Snake__> to end a session
[08:52] <robin> exit
[08:52] <Snake__> thats it?
[08:52] <Snake__> lol
[08:52] <robin> think so
[08:52] <ronni32> seth_k|lappy, so whats teh solution
[08:52] <robin> try it
[08:52] <ronni32> ?
[08:52] <sahooe> hi there! I have a problem, one week ago I had 70% of mi disk space free and now is gone. Don't know why
[08:53] <Blissex> ronni32: newer version of GNU LIBC do more memory allocation checks, either you disable them, or you get a fixed app.
[08:53] <seth_k|lappy> ronni32, install cdrdao
[08:53] <Snake__> robin: its not exit
[08:53] <sahooe> so I investigated around and found that there is a file called .xsession-errors in my home directory
[08:53] <ronni32> Blissex, i m on dapper.. cant get a newer version of whatever
[08:53] <robin> Snake_: ok then im sorry.  try logout
[08:53] <sahooe> That .xsession-errors is 12GB size!
[08:53] <Blissex> robin: look at the mount parameters 'umask', 'uid' and 'gid'
[08:53] <ronni32> seth_k|lappy, its already installed..
[08:54] <seth_k|lappy> ronni32, then what error do you get
[08:54] <Blissex> sahooe: just delete it, but something must be pretty wrong.
[08:54] <ronni32> seth_k|lappy, i get IO-errors u understand?
[08:54] <Snake__> robin: nothin
[08:54] <sahooe> why is happening this?
[08:54] <Snake__> Im just asking because i'm on xfce and I deleted my quit button lol
[08:54] <robin> Blissex: but what shall i type to get write access to it?
[08:54] <sahooe> Blissex: what could it be?
[08:54] <robin> Snake_: then i dont know sorry
[08:54] <Snake__> ok
[08:54] <ronni32> seth_k|lappy, "IO-Error" thats all
[08:55] <Blissex> sahooe: do 'tail -40 .xsession-errors' to see whats complaining about.
[08:56] <robin> Blissex: this is the line in fstab "/dev/hda5	/media/hda5	vfat	rw,user,umask=022	0	0"
[08:56] <sahooe> Blissex: it says Command> Invalid command.
[08:56] <sahooe>  a lot of times
[08:56] <robin> Blissex: hmmmm lost the spaces
[08:57] <Blissex> sahooe: does it say which command?
[08:57] <sahooe> no, only invalid command
[08:57] <mike-w> where is network information (host, dhcp or static, subnet mask, gateway) kept on ubuntu, i want to learn to set network characteristics manually
[08:57] <Blissex> robin: that gives permission to 'root' to rw, and denies w to everybody else.
[08:57] <Blissex> mike-w: '/etc/ntwork/interfaces'
[08:58] <Blissex> mike-w: 'man ifup' to get the full story.
[08:58] <sahooe> Command> Invalid command. many times, that all (around 10 times)
[08:58] <robin> Blissex: oh ok! what shall i write to giva all users write access to it??
[08:58] <demon71> running /bin/sh ./configure   --no-create --no-recursion,checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu,checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu,checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu,./configure: line 1379: syntax error near unexpected token `solseek,'
[08:58] <demon71> ./configure: line 1379: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(solseek, 0.1)',make: *** [config.status]  Error 2
[08:58] <Blissex> robin: 'umask=0000'
[08:59] <robin> Blissex: Ok, Thanx!!
[09:00] <robin> Blissex: worked nice! Thanx again!!
[09:00] <tvon> is there a package with a bunch of konq extensions?  I seem to remember there being more of them "back in the day" (when I last used kde regularly)
[09:00] <Blissex> tvon: depends what you mean by extension...
[09:01] <mike-w> any sites with example interfaces files?
[09:01] <tvon> Blissex: things that show up in the 'configure extensions' dialog I suppose, maybe some of them have moved to different implementations
[09:01] <sahooe> blissex: I moved the file to the trash but the 12GB file is not there
[09:01] <tvon> I should probably just be quiet, I'm not looking for anything specific, just curious whats out there
[09:02] <sahooe> blissex: and the drive is still full. Where did it go?
[09:02] <Blissex> sahooe: files that are really large get deleted immediately.
[09:02] <Blissex> sahooe: also, really full drives can be also because the filesystem needs checking.
[09:02] <Blissex> tvon: this is more a question for #KDE I guess...
[09:02] <tvon> Blissex: yeah, you're probably right
[09:02] <sahooe> my filesystem is EXT3. How can I chek it?
[09:03] <Blissex> sahooe: however, just in case, do at a terminal prompt this: 'du -m ~' | sort -nr | less' and check the top sizes dirs.
[09:03] <Blissex> sahooe: if it is the 'root' filesystem it can only be checked on reboot.
[09:03] <Blissex> sahooe: or from a live CD for example.
[09:06] <sahooe> the "du" command gives me nothing, only a prompt like this: >
[09:06] <sahooe> and the home directory is now only some MB long, but the disk is still full, so the 12GB file is somewhere around
[09:07] <sahooe> where is the "trash" directory? sorry, I'm kinda newbie (less than 3 months in Linux)
[09:08] <kkathman> sahooe: its in your home directory as .Trash
[09:08] <kkathman> i.e. ~/.Trash
[09:08] <Foodcoman> kkathman:
[09:08] <sahooe> ok
[09:09] <kkathman> howdy Foodcoman :)
[09:09] <Foodcoman> =)
[09:10] <kkathman> Foodcoman: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you :)
[09:10] <kkathman> greetings hugelmopf :)
[09:10] <Snake__> Does anyone know how to end a session??
[09:10] <hugelmopf> hey there kkathman :)
[09:10] <Snake__> I deleted my quit button on accident and I don't know how to get it back
[09:10] <kkathman> Snake__: uhm... in KDE?
[09:10] <Snake__> xfce
[09:10] <kkathman> ohh.. well you can go to the little mouse and say quit
[09:11] <sahooe> it's maybe strange but I don't have a .Trash directory in home
[09:11] <Snake__> Ya but I liked the button
[09:11] <Snake__> lol
[09:11] <kkathman> ohhh
[09:11] <kkathman> you want to reset the button?
[09:11] <Snake__> Yes
[09:11] <kkathman> hmmm
[09:12] <Snake__> Like the command says its quit, but when I do that, it doesnt do anything
[09:13] <Snake__> I GOT IT!
[09:13] <Snake__> Woo
[09:14] <kkathman> Snake__: what was it?
[09:14] <Snake__> right click on the clock, add item
[09:14] <Snake__> then add system buttons
[09:14] <kkathman> ohhhh
[09:14] <kkathman> gotcha
[09:14] <kkathman> I thought you were looking for a konsole command
[09:14] <mike-w> how do ireconfigure xorg to see a resolution higher than 1024x762
[09:14] <Snake__> I orignally was
[09:14] <sahooe> kkathman: where is my .Trash directory then? When I type: "locate ./Trash" (after "sudo updatedb") I only get another .Trash directory
[09:14] <mike-w> 8
[09:14] <Snake__> But that didnt work
[09:15] <Snake__> kkathman: are you on xfce?
[09:15] <kkathman> sahooe: its located on in your home directory... i.e.  /home/<yourname>/.Trash
[09:15] <kkathman> Snake__: I use xfce on one of my boxes
[09:15] <kkathman> but rarely use it
[09:16] <Snake__> kkathman: does "Lock Screen" do anything for you?
[09:16] <kkathman> just enought to bring up the network, check a few things etc
[09:16] <sahooe> kkathman: yeah, but there is no .Trash directory in my home. I swear!
[09:16] <mike-w> 8
[09:16] <kkathman> sahooe: probably because you arent including the system files... do a cd, then a ls -al
[09:16] <mike-w> 8
[09:16] <mike-w> oops
[09:16] <mike-w> how do ireconfigure xorg to see a resolution higher than 1024x762
[09:17] <mike-w> something like dpkg --configure something
[09:17] <mike-w> i forget
[09:17] <sahooe> kkathman: there's a Trash for another partition, and the .Trash directory is there ok, but no for $HOME
[09:17] <kkathman> mike-w: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:17] <kkathman> sahooe: you must have deleted it then if you dont see it with an ls -al
[09:18] <sahooe> kkathman: but my KDE is in spanish and maybe it's called other way
[09:18] <kkathman> ahh thats possible
[09:18] <kkathman> but not sure actually
[09:19] <sahooe> kkathman: should I create it? and where is the big file I just sent to the trash bin?
[09:19] <kkathman> sahooe: Im pretty convinced its probably there and you are just not seeing it :)
[09:19] <kkathman> but, if its not...then I have no idea where it went :)
[09:20] <sahooe> kkathman: ok. thanks anyway.
[09:21] <taojah> hello i am getting an error when i try to run the cd ripper in kde, KAudio Kreator ... the error says No encoder selected ..please select and encoder in the configuration .. can anyone tell me how to do this please ?
[09:21] <kkathman> sahooe: try opening konq and put in trash:/ and see what happens
[09:21] <kkathman> oops
[09:21] <kkathman> stupid smileys :)
[09:21] <kkathman> trash colon backslash
[09:22] <kkathman> sahooe: do you have a trash icon there?
[09:22] <sahooe> it shows me the other trash bin, of the other partition (I deleted another file in that partition, for testing)
[09:22] <sahooe> but there is not the big file
[09:22] <kkathman> ahh you have multiple partitions then
[09:22] <kkathman> you running two versions of ubuntu?
[09:23] <mike-w> man ubuntu doesn't save my dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg settings for some reason
[09:23] <sahooe> no, I have kubuntu in a 20GB partition, and a lot of files in a 100GB partition
[09:24] <kkathman> sahooe: Im at a loss as to why your trash wouldnt be in your home directory
[09:24] <sahooe> yes, me too
[09:24] <Snake__> Aw this is beautiful
[09:24] <taojah> hello i am getting an error when i try to run the cd ripper in kde, KAudio Kreator ... the error says No encoder selected ..please select and encoder in the configuration .. can anyone tell me how to do this please ?
[09:24] <kkathman> unless something was manually done...i.e. you went to root and did something inadvertantly
[09:24] <Snake__> Now I lost the xfce bar and the taskbar lol
[09:25] <sahooe> i don't think so, I'm not that bad with my computer :)
[09:26] <sahooe> it's strange because the Home directory is now small, but the disk is still full with that 12GB file that is somewhere
[09:26] <_paul> hi,all, i am a beginner for Kubuntu, i need help
[09:27] <_paul> hi
[09:27] <_paul> hi
[09:27] <_paul> hi
[09:27] <mike-w> in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is there any modules i should unload that might just plan suck?
[09:27] <mike-w> _paul: hi, now have a nice day
[09:27] <pussfeller> so im gonna try to upgrade to dapper
[09:27] <pussfeller> yeek
[09:28] <mike-w> dapper?
[09:28] <mike-w> what's that?
[09:28] <sampan> sahooe, sounds like a log file that's out of control?
[09:28] <mike-w> !dapper
[09:28] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[09:28] <_paul> someone told me to use this for installing skype--------------sudo alien -d skype-blabla.rpm
[09:28] <pussfeller> but all i really need is a 2.6.13 kernel
[09:28] <mike-w> _paul : look for a skype distro that ends in .deb
[09:28] <_paul> the rpm fine is in /home/paul/desktop
[09:29] <_paul> but the deb has some problem
[09:29] <_paul> to mike-w
[09:29] <sampan> paul, the PLF or cipherpunk repos should have a skype package that will work
[09:29] <mike-w> paul: are you sure there isn't a skype .deb autopackage?
[09:29] <sampan> !easysource
[09:29] <ubotu> somebody said easysource was For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:29] <sahooe> kkathman: i'm looking each / directory now, to see where the 12GB did go. Quite annoying
[09:29] <pussfeller> whats the kernel istself called
[09:30] <sampan> the source-o-matic can be useful in adding the PLF and other repos
[09:30] <_paul> users said the deb pack doesnot work
[09:30] <sahooe> sampan: yes, the xsession.errors was 12GB long!
[09:30] <_paul> so they recommand me to use but the deb has some problem
[09:30] <sampan> sahooe, to locate the file, try (in console): find -size +5G
[09:30] <sahooe> ok, let me try it
[09:30] <pussfeller> a 12 gig error file?
[09:30] <pussfeller> wtf
[09:31] <sampan> sahooe, that's one HUGE error file ... :/
[09:31] <hugelmopf> taojah: there is a section for that in kaudiocreators "Settings --> Configure"
[09:32] <_paul> i am a newbie ,so who can tell me how to enter the /home/paul/desktop
[09:32] <sahooe> tell me! full disk because of that file
[09:32] <mike-w> is there any way to make a laptop LCD monitor that can only do 1024x768 resolution do something that will make the desktop look less magnified?
[09:33] <mike-w> _paul : cd /home/paul/
[09:33] <sahooe> sampan: the "find" has a lot of "denied access" error, I try with sudo now
[09:33] <mike-w> _paul : cd /home/paul/Desktop
[09:34] <_paul> paul@lp:~$ sudo cd /home/paul/Desktop
[09:34] <_paul> right
[09:34] <sampan> sahooe good idea :)
[09:34] <sahooe> sampan: not found. There are three files in ./proc/24490/, but it says: "No such file or directory"
[09:34] <_paul> sudo: cd: command not found
[09:35] <sampan> sahooe, hrmmmm .... strange -- maybe do a sudo updatedb first?
[09:35] <_paul> mike-w?
[09:35] <_paul> hi,mike
[09:36] <sahooe> sampan: there's an error in ./proc/22652, something about the controller of the file system
[09:36] <mike-w> paul don't do suod cd
[09:36] <mike-w> sudo
[09:36] <sahooe> sampan: it's in spanish, so I can't translate it so well
[09:37] <sampan> sahooe, ouch -- problems in /proc are  way out of my league ... i'm kinda a newb at linux :X
[09:37] <Determinist> question: i have a laptop with ubuntu 5.10 installed on it and wish to remove the default gnome system and replace it with kde, how can this be done?
[09:37] <sampan> maybe a runaway process?
[09:38] <sampan> determinist  if you have the repositories enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then you should be able to get kde/kubuntu by just doing (in console): sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:38] <sahooe> sampan: may that's the error with the .xsession-error, can it be?
[09:38] <mike-w> Determinist just switch from gnome session to kde session at xorg bootup
[09:38] <sampan> sahooe, perhaps so .... can you even open the .xession-errors to see what is filling it up?  or is it too big to even open?
[09:39] <hugelmopf> Determinist: if you want to remove all of gnome, try to remove one of its core packages and see what that pulls in.
[09:39] <hugelmopf> Determinist: of course you should first install kubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <Determinist> mike-w and sampan i know this, i wish to remove gnome applications without having to do it manually, i'm asking if there is an automated way to replace gnome with kde and not have them both
[09:39] <Determinist> hugelmopf, thanks
[09:39] <sahooe> sampan: it was too big and kate crashed. But the I deleted (I sent the file to the trash) and now I cant find it!!!!
[09:40] <Determinist> i see kynaptic has been replaced by adept, any reason for this?
[09:40] <hugelmopf> it's better ;-)
[09:40] <sampan> sahooe, :/  ouch ... you could always create it again with: touch .xsession-errors (in your home dir)
[09:40] <Determinist> dunno, being a synaptic user i've gotten used to the look and functionality :)
[09:41] <sampan> you can use synaptic in kde
[09:41] <mike-w> apt-get, apt-cache, and apt-file are your friend
[09:42] <sahooe> sampan: there's a .xsession-errors:1 but it's empty
[09:43] <sampan> sahooe, weird ... i dunno ... maybe restarting X will recreate the error file properly -- but i really don't know and i'd hate to give you potentially very bad advice :X
[09:43] <sahooe> sampan: ok. I'll restart. I don't want to format the disk only because I cant find a 12GB file!!!!
[09:44] <sampan> yeah you shouldn't have to reformat just for this
[09:44] <sander> Determinist: I think that kynaptic development was stalled whereas Adept's just starting.
[09:45] <sahooe> sampan: I'll restart now. Thanks for the help
[09:45] <sampan> good luck -- don't thank me till i've actually helped some! ;X
[09:45] <_paul> paul@lp:~/Desktop$ sudo alien -d skype-1.2.0.18-fc3.i586.rpm, but it does NOT work
[09:46] <sahooe> ok seeya and the Real Madrid is losing against one of the worst teams of Spain. That makes me feel good
[09:47] <djk_> oi. Madrid losing is good news :)
[09:47] <sampan> paul, from what i've heard in here over the past two months, using alien should be an absolute last resort ... there ARE skype .debs and even a workable package in the proper repositories (PLF or cipherfunk) -- both are probably a better solution than using alien
[09:48] <_paul> sampan, someone told me to use an old deb pack
[09:48] <sampan> that might be how they installed skype, but it's probably not the most painless way any more
[09:49] <_paul> ok, so where can i find the OLD pack?
[09:49] <_paul> could you tell me how old the pack should  be ....thank you.
[09:50] <sampan> why do you need the old one?  current ones in the repos aren't good enough?
[09:50] <sampan> i installed it via apt-get with the PLF/cipherfunk repos enabled -- for those, see the link to source-o-matic that ubotu will post
[09:50] <sampan> !easysource
[09:50] <ubotu> somebody said easysource was For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:51] <_paul> ok.....
[09:52] <kkathman> sampan: hey :)
[09:52] <sampan> once you add the PLF/cipherfunk (or cipherpunk, i can't ever remember) lines to your sources.list file, then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install skype should be all you need to do -- at least, that worked for me a month and a half ago
[09:52] <_paul> but ...i do not know what is PLF////
[09:52] <djk_> _paul: why don't you just click on the link and _read_
[09:52] <sampan> plf = penguin liberation front ... it's a section on the source-o-matic list
[09:52] <sampan> hey kkathman :)  how's you?
[09:53] <_paul> just edit the list and add the address to the list?
[09:53] <kkathman> hey sampan Im fine and you?  Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you :)
[09:53] <vishah> deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free -----------> is this it
[09:54] <djk_> _paul: btw, why did you use alien -d skypeblabla.rpm?
[09:54] <djk_> _paul: i mean the -d part
[09:54] <sampan> kkathman i'm doing well (gonna go take a look at a 12" powerbook here as a potential near-future laptop purchase).   merry christmas to you as well :)
[09:54] <sahooe> ok, looks like the problem is fixed with a reboot xD
[09:54] <_paul> i just copy it
[09:54] <sampan> sahooe  yay!  :)
[09:55] <djk_> _paul: copy from where/who?
[09:55] <sahooe> sampan: yea. Now I have to see why I don't have a .Trash directory in my $HOME
[09:55] <sahooe> and why i had a 12GB error file
[09:56] <sampan> vishah  yes, that's the plf line in my sources.list
[09:56] <sampan> sahooe, yeah ... detective work time!
[09:57] <mips> Anybody got any ideas as to why I cannot enable my ethernet interfaces ?
[09:57] <kkathman> mips: what have you done already?
[09:57] <sahooe> sampan: looks like it's a Bluetooth error. I don't have bluetooth but KDE thinks I have
[09:58] <mips> ehh, the wired interface was working. now it is disabled and I cannot enable it
[09:58] <sampan> sahooe, ahhh, i had those too (but not 12 GB worth).  you can easily kill the kbluetoothd process ... or even turn off bluetooth service from starting at boot
[09:58] <kkathman> mips does your system recognize the eth0 ??
[09:59] <sahooe> sampan: and how do I kill it for good? In system settings?
[09:59] <mips> kkathman: Yes and it was working 5mins ago
[09:59] <mips> the current status is disabled
[09:59] <kkathman> mips:  well, was there something you did 5 mins ago :)
[10:00] <sampan> sahooe, yeah -- i think it's system settings --> services ... and then bluez-utils is the service name i think -- disable it at boot time for kubuntu's default run-level (which i forget -- is it 2?)
[10:00] <mips> yes, disabled IPv6, apt-get update, apt-get dist-update
[10:00] <kkathman> hmm why the dist-update?
[10:01] <kkathman> mips: can you get to the network settings under KDE?
[10:01] <mips> sorry, i mean dist-upgrade
[10:01] <sahooe> sampan: ok, let me try
[10:01] <mips> kkathman: Yes i can but it will not allow me to enable the interface
[10:02] <kkathman> mips: does that mean you cannot get to administrator mode on that screen?
[10:02] <sampan> sahooe, iirc kubuntu's default run-level is Multiuser Mode (2), but frankly, i reboot so infrequently (once every 3-4 months or so) that i left it enabled at boot time and just manually kill the kbluetoothd process
[10:02] <mips> kkathman: I can get into Admin Mode
[10:03] <kkathman> so when you get to the admin mode and click on the eth0 what happens?
[10:03] <sahooe> sampan: 4 months! I usally have to reboot after a couple of days
[10:03] <mips> kkathman: It gets highlighted
[10:03] <_paul> sorry , sampan, do you mean i should add this to my source.list:http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:03] <mips> kkathman: busy rebooting the laptop
[10:04] <mips> kkathman: This KDE thing is a different beast to Gnome...
[10:04] <djk_> mmh, is there a prog in the repos to find out if a cd has bad blocks?
[10:04] <sahooe> sampan: well, man. thanks for all your help. I'm going to eat something now. Seeya later!
[10:04] <sampan> paul, no -- that link is just an online form that will allow you to build a customized sources.list file -- if you answer the questions on it, it will output a customized sources.list file that you can copy
[10:05] <sampan> sahooe  you're welcome -- enjoy!  :)
[10:05] <kkathman> mips that it is sir
[10:05] <sahooe> KUBUNTU (still) ROCKS!!
[10:05] <mips> kkathman: Now the Laptop gets stuck at loading modules...
[10:06] <_paul> sampan, ok, i will try
[10:06] <sampan> paul, if you want the plf repo you can just copy paste the following line into your /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[10:06] <kkathman> mips: which modules?
[10:07] <mips> kkathman: It resumed again. Just said loading modules...
[10:07] <sampan> _paul, to edit that file, type (in console): kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <mips> kkathman:  Ok, still cant enable the interface...
[10:08] <sampan> _paul  and then copy/paste that line at the bottom ... save the file.  then sudo apt-get update
[10:08] <_paul> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[10:08] <_paul> ok
[10:09] <sampan> you need the "deb" part before the ftp
[10:09] <_paul> ok
[10:10] <_paul> deb and deb-src?
[10:10] <kkathman> mips: can you go to a konsole and try sudo dhclient eth0 ??
[10:10] <_paul> sampan, two lines?
[10:10] <sampan> _paul, if you want -src files you can add the second line, but it's not necessary to get skype
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Whats the package for X includes?
[10:11] <sampan> !xincludes
[10:11] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[10:11] <mips> kkathman: I'm not using dhcp, have a static config as I'm using my desktop pc as the gateway device and dhcp is very flaky on it. The problem is it wont allow me to enable the interface, it is disable and stays that way even if I click enable.
[10:12] <DaSkreech> sampan: Thanks
[10:12] <sampan> ;x
[10:12] <kkathman> mips will dhclient work tho?
[10:13] <DaSkreech> ubotu: Thanks
[10:13] <ubotu> DaSkreech: no worries
[10:13] <sampan> lol
[10:13] <mips> kkathman:  No it wont as my main box wont issue a lease
[10:13] <sampan> ubotu, thanks
[10:13] <ubotu> de nada, sampan
[10:14] <kkathman> hmm
[10:14] <DaSkreech> ubotu: Gracias
[10:14] <ubotu> Wish i knew, DaSkreech
[10:14] <DaSkreech> *laughs*
[10:14] <DaSkreech> ubotu: i18n
[10:14] <ubotu> DaSkreech: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:14] <kkathman> mips Im stumped a bit here then
[10:14] <sampan> hahaha ... funny ubotu
[10:14] <mips> kkathman:  Me to this makes no sense whatsoever. About to do a reinstall
[10:15] <kkathman> I cant understand why you cant get to the eth0 then
[10:15] <kkathman> well good luck and Im sorry we couldnt do more :(
[10:15] <mips> kkathman:  Because K Control tells me it is disabled and it refuses to enable....
[10:16] <mips> kkathman:  Thanks, I'll carry on trying.
[10:16] <_kkrizka> how do I remove the google search box in konqueror?
[10:17] <ronni32> pls someone help me out with that cdrom-problem: http://paste.plone.org/1577
[10:18] <melonipoika> Hi, anyone knows how can i add a netwok monitor and system monitor to the task bar?
[10:19] <osh_> Should requests for enhancements go into bugzilla too?
[10:22] <sampan> _kkrizka  i've wondered how to remove that as well
[10:22] <osh_> I've discovered something that's not pretty but not a bug per se. It's when you move the kicker to the top of the screen and then download a file to the desktop (which is the default). When you do this it'll put the file under the kicker instead of beneth it.
[10:23] <sampan> it's kinda redundant with the webshortcut (gg:) anyway
[10:23] <_kkrizka> sampan: and even more if you make gg: the default
[10:23] <_kkrizka> that's why I want to get rid of it
[10:23] <kkathman> osh_: you can mention it in bugzilla but search first for something like it
[10:24] <DaSkreech> OMG
[10:24] <DaSkreech> WHy didn't anyone tell em about Meta+Space?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> me
[10:24] <osh_> melonipoika: just right-click and choose add to the miniprogs you want. both the network monitor and system monitor are there.
[10:24] <DaSkreech> or em :)
[10:24] <DaSkreech> osh_: Under Applets?
[10:25] <dmitry_> anyone available for a quick question?
[10:26] <osh_> DaSkreech: Dunno. I have a localized version so I don't know what it's called in english. But probably under applets yes.
[10:26] <mips> dmitry: Just ask
[10:26] <sampan> osh_, i can't find either of those anywhere when i right-click the taskbar
[10:26] <DaSkreech> osh_: Hmm not seeing it here
[10:26] <melonipoika> osh, i have the options add applet to panel and add application to panel... i can't find what you mean...
[10:26] <osh_> kkathman: Didn't find anything with a qucik search. I'll add it to the bugzilla.
[10:26] <melonipoika> ah, ok
[10:27] <sampan> it was always there in mandriva, but i've never been able to find the network monitor and system monitor applets on kubuntu
[10:27] <sampan> is it part of the kde-toys or something that isn't installed by default?
[10:27] <dmitry_> ok. just got kubuntu live CD. Can't login though, what is the default login/password?
[10:27] <osh_> For me I have something similar to "Add programs" or "mini programs"
[10:28] <nalioth> dmitry_: if you can't login, something is wrong
[10:28] <osh_> The "mini programs" is probably "Applet".
[10:28] <dmitry_> Seems ok,. it's asking for username and password
[10:28] <nalioth> dmitry_: ubuntu and none
[10:28] <melonipoika> osh, thanks i found it
[10:29] <DaSkreech> melonipoika: Where is it?
[10:29] <melonipoika> add applets
[10:29] <melonipoika> and then system guard...
[10:29] <melonipoika> or something like that
[10:29] <DaSkreech> Ah
[10:29] <melonipoika> i have it in spanish
[10:29] <DaSkreech> I wouldn't have thouhgt the network monitor would be under system guard
[10:29] <melonipoika> ah no
[10:29] <melonipoika> i didn't find that one
[10:30] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[10:30] <dmitry_> ubuntu and none is not accepted
[10:30] <melonipoika> i found system monitor, (cpu and memory)
[10:30] <melonipoika> but it is quite big, i think i don't want to have so big one...
[10:31] <DaSkreech> karamba?
[10:31] <melonipoika> what is karamba?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> !karamba
[10:31] <ubotu> DaSkreech: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> *laughs*
[10:32] <hugelmopf> dmitry_: did you try "none" as password or no password?
[10:32] <apokryphos> !superkaramba
[10:32] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[10:32] <dmitry_> nalioth, I tried user=ubuntu passwd=none, no luck
[10:33] <mips> dmitry_: leave the password blank ?
[10:33] <osh_> bugzilla entry committed. :-)
[10:35] <dmitry_> also no good
[10:35] <melonipoika> has anyone try the tuxbar? is it working like the one in mac?
[10:36] <hugelmopf> dmitry_: i don't remember having ever needed a default username/password on the live-cd. either it must have asked me to create a username/password, or it did not ask me for one. ;-)
[10:36] <kkathman> melonipoika: I havent tried tuxbar, but I DO use ksmoothdock which is nice
[10:36] <nalioth> dmitry_: then something is wrong, you should start the liveCD and have a fully functioning kde session when it loads fully
[10:36] <nalioth> dmitry_: you shouldnt have to 'log in' at all to a LiveCD
[10:36] <DaSkreech> !Qtheaders
[10:36] <ubotu> DaSkreech: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:37] <melonipoika> thanks, kkathman
[10:37] <dmitry_> I did have the session when it booted. But I had to log off. Now I can't log back in
[10:37] <kkathman> no problem :)
[10:38] <melonipoika> ok guys, time to go to sleep
[10:39] <melonipoika> cu!
[10:39] <nalioth> DaSkreech: did you get hit by a windmill? install libqt*-dev
[10:39] <DaSkreech> all of them?
[10:39] <DaSkreech> :_( Don't they have qt 1 and Qt 2 stuff in there?
[10:40] <nalioth> DaSkreech: there should only be libqt4*-dev and libqt3*-dev
[10:40] <nalioth> DaSkreech: qt1 and 2 are ancient
[10:41] <DaSkreech> nalioth: What if that removes files?
[10:41] <nalioth> DaSkreech: something sounds fishy in that statement
[10:42] <DaSkreech> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 524 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:42] <nalioth> DaSkreech: are you running some weird setup?
[10:42] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[10:42] <DaSkreech> I'd typed aptitude instead of apt-get
[10:43] <kkathman> ahh
[10:43] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Now it says it can't find it
[10:44] <nalioth> DaSkreech: sounds like you have something amiss, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[10:47] <DaSkreech> nalioth: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/474025
[11:00] <sharket> gi there again
[11:00] <sharket> *hi
[11:00] <sharket> Blissex: dpkg-deb: el subproceso paste devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 2
[11:00] <sharket> dpkg: error al procesar ibm-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb (--install): lectura insuficiente en buffer_copy (error en dpkg-deb durante `./usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm/jre/lib/graphics.jar')
[11:00] <sharket> that .deb seems broken
[11:00] <sharket> :S
[11:00] <sharket> at least that one, the other one, no
[11:05] <sharket> any idea wherei can find java sources ?
[11:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DaSkreech about sources
[11:08] <sharket> uh ?
[11:09] <sharket> nalioth: do u know ?
[11:09] <kkathman> !javadeb
[11:09] <ubotu> [javadebs]  Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:09] <sharket> that .deb is broken
[11:09] <sharket> dpkg: error al procesar ibm-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb (--install): lectura insuficiente en buffer_copy (error en dpkg-deb durante `./usr/lib/j2sdk                      1.5-ibm/jre/lib/graphics.jar')
[11:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sharket about javadeb
[11:10] <kkathman> not broken...I installed it myself
[11:10] <sharket> then ?
[11:10] <sharket> i tried, i followed taht :S
[11:10] <sharket> that
[11:10] <nalioth> sharket: how many javas do you have installed?
[11:10] <sharket> no one
[11:11] <sharket> just i trying this one
[11:11] <nalioth> sharket: d/l it again, please
[11:11] <sharket> Desempaquetando el reemplazo de ibm-j2re1.5 ..
[11:11] <sharket> i installed that
[11:11] <sharket> d/l ?
[11:15] <zenlunatic> why is slashdot.org so ugly in konqueror?
[11:15] <sharket> aggg
[11:16] <sharket> sucks, i'm going to try with wget
[11:16] <sharket> with mozilla stops
[11:17] <sharket> ibm-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb has sprung into existence.
[11:17] <sharket> Reintentando.
[11:18] <sharket> I'm having problems for dl :S
[11:18] <nalioth> sharket: are you on a apple machine?
[11:18] <sharket> yes
[11:20] <nalioth> sharket: robotgeek packaged those debs and i'm not sure if the problem you are getting is able to be ignored or not (he mentioned it threw an ignorable error)
[11:21] <zenlunatic> are there any good tips for speeding up konqueror?
[11:23] <nalioth> zenlunatic: go buy a dual core amd64 500 (with two array fixtures) ?
[11:23] <sharket> well nalioth i don't know why with mozilla it didn't finish
[11:23] <sharket> LOl
[11:23] <nalioth> sorry, i meant a amd64x2 5000
[11:23] <sharket> wget seems doing
[11:24] <justanother> g' evening guys
[11:24] <nalioth> howdy
[11:24] <sharket> hello justanother
[11:25] <justanother> what's the audio-player of your choice
[11:25] <sharket> Xmms
[11:26] <xtacocorex> justanother: i use amarok
[11:29] <justanother> i have a question: how much memory footprint have these players if you have quite big playlists?
[11:29] <justanother> btw, is there a player like foobar?
[11:30] <xtacocorex> justanother: checking amarok now using ksysguard
[11:32] <xtacocorex> justanother: i don't really know what this means, but amarok is showing vmsize as 138,048 and vmrss as 53,408
[11:33] <xtacocorex> justanother: my playlist is 774 songs
[11:33] <pussfeller> amorok is the best I have seen for large collections
[11:34] <pussfeller> or theres mpd which is quite good too
[11:34] <xtacocorex> pussfeller: i don't think i could use anything else besides amarok
[11:34] <pussfeller> mpd will def have a smaller footprint :)
[11:35] <pussfeller> i dig amarok bigtime
[11:35] <os2mac> Just did updates... now I can't run adept update or get updates anyone got any ideas?
[11:35] <justanother> thx guys, i'll try amarok and mpd - btw, which has better tagging-support
[11:35] <os2mac> btw I am running Dapper
[11:36] <pussfeller> amarok has good tagging and theres easytag for when that doesnt work good enough
[11:36] <pussfeller> mpd is just a player deamon
[11:36] <justanother> ah, ok
[11:36] <os2mac> anyone?
[11:37] <xtacocorex> os2mac: what are you using to update?
[11:37] <xtacocorex> os2mac: i know that if you use a gui and keep it open and try to command line update, the apt database gets locked and throws errors
[11:37] <xtacocorex> os2mac: thats the extent of my knowledge on that
[11:39] <os2mac> I was using the GUI... which failed for some reason with 53 updates to go... so I switched to the cmdline and am trying that...
[11:40] <xtacocorex> os2mac: sorta sounds like the database is locked, the gui closed?
[11:43] <Snake__> Does anyone know how I could listen to launchcast radio on linux??
[11:43] <xtacocorex> Snake__: what's the launchcast format?
[11:43] <Snake__> I don't know, it plays in its own flash player
[11:43] <Snake__> xtacocorex: http://music.yahoo.com/launchcast/stations/station.asp?i=73
[11:43] <Snake__> thats what im trying to play (MetaL)
[11:44] <Snake__> It says it doesn't support netscape
[11:44] <pussfeller> well theres a firefox extention that try to find the actual urls for you to paste into another player
[11:44] <pussfeller> but that sounds like its activex based or something which means ie
[11:45] <Snake__> pussfeller: Yea I think it is...
[11:45] <Snake__> Is there anyway around that or am I screwed
[11:45] <xtacocorex> Snake__: oh, i thought it was a separate fileformat like a rm strearm
[11:45] <os2mac> recently did Dapper updates... now getting SIGSEGV error when attempting to get updates with Adept....
[11:45] <os2mac> anyone able to help?
[11:45] <pussfeller> theres a lot of other radio streams you can find that play metal....
[11:45] <Snake__> xtacocorex: No...
[11:45] <Snake__> Ya I know but I pay for this one :-P
[11:46] <xtacocorex> Snake__: i think if you click the metal button and copy the url to amarok, which i'm trying now
[11:46] <pussfeller> pay? pay?
[11:46] <Snake__> what do you mean pay pay
[11:46] <xtacocorex> Snake__: that didn't work
[11:46] <hugelmopf> using konqueror i at least get to a login form
[11:47] <Snake__> Damn it, I guess I might have to go to the edge radion
[11:47] <xtacocorex> konqueror threw a netscape error at me
[11:47] <Snake__> Can linux play asx??
[11:47] <pussfeller> you can change the browser id in konqy
[11:47] <abraxas777> nope
[11:47] <hugelmopf> xtacocorex: i spoofed IE browser identification
[11:47] <xtacocorex> Snake__: that's a windows media format right? it should play with mplayer
[11:47] <abraxas777> i don't think it can play asx format
[11:48] <abraxas777> atleast not with this lib anyway
[11:48] <xtacocorex> hugelmopf: ah, didn't bother changing that
[11:48] <pussfeller> asx is ms video and audio streams
[11:48] <Snake__> Okay well http://edge.mfkr1.com/ solved my problem
[11:48] <Snake__> They are m3u
[11:48] <Snake__> :)
[11:48] <xtacocorex> abraxas777: good to know for later on
[11:49] <os2mac> recently did Dapper updates... now getting SIGSEGV error when attempting to get updates with Adept....
[11:49] <os2mac> can anyone help?
[11:49] <abraxas777> haven't check alot l8ly, but as i remember there is still no proper support for win formats, especially new one
[11:50] <abraxas777> os2mac -- did you get full release cd or just update to kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[11:51] <hugelmopf> Snake__: asf can be played, i don't know about asx
[11:51] <pussfeller> i saw taht list of updates and I decided to do a full install into another drive instead :)
[11:51] <Snake__> hugelmopf: its okay, its m3u
[11:52] <abraxas777> yeah ... i'm still in doubts about updating to that one
[11:57] <slow-motion> n8