| mjg59 | I don't think infinity has seen it though | 12:04 |
|---|---|---|
| cjb | No, not you. | 12:04 |
| mjg59 | It's my concave chest he's thinking of | 12:05 |
| cjb | Oh! I see. | 12:05 |
| cjb | I was imagining his concave chest enabled more build-up of sweat, resulting in said hotness and bother. | 12:05 |
| infinity | I think you need to stop imagining things altogether. | 12:09 |
| cjb | That works. I could always leave for Go club like I've been meaning to for the last ten mins. | 12:10 |
| jbailey | BenC: For the X hang that I'm seeing, BenH is asking if I have the kernel side fix for ppc64. Any idea if that's in the -8 kernels? | 12:23 |
| jbailey | -8.10, sorry | 12:23 |
| infinity | jbailey : You're SOOO yesterday, upgrade to -9.11. | 12:23 |
| jbailey | I will. Just as soon as my ISP gets a !@#$ WORKING DNS SERVER DAMMIT | 12:24 |
| BenC | lol | 12:26 |
| BenC | ask benh when it was synced to linus | 12:26 |
| BenC | and I can tell you when we got it | 12:26 |
| BenC | I'm surprised it stayed broke, considering linus uses a G5 for his kernel work now | 12:27 |
| jbailey | Well, it's G5 + r300. | 12:27 |
| BenC | he has nvidia? | 12:27 |
| infinity | Plus CVS r300, to be exact. | 12:27 |
| jbailey | No idea. | 12:27 |
| BenC | ok | 12:27 |
| infinity | If you're not running Xorg pre-releases, you don't see the bug. | 12:27 |
| infinity | Or if you have DRI disabled. | 12:27 |
| infinity | Or, or... | 12:27 |
| jbailey | <benh> between rc5 and rc6 | 12:32 |
| jbailey | <benh> a memory map fix | 12:32 |
| jbailey | BenC: ^^ | 12:32 |
| BenC | -9.11 is -rc6 | 12:35 |
| BenC | so that should fix it | 12:35 |
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| sistpoty | hi | 12:40 |
| BenC | sistopy: the thing that bothers me is that it worked once | 12:40 |
| sistpoty | yeah... I was quite surprised seeing that it doesn't work any longer :/ | 12:40 |
| BenC | working once implies that something with the hardware changed | 12:40 |
| BenC | because obviously the kernel didn't between reboots :) | 12:40 |
| sistpoty | however if you look at the kernel messages, ide ctrl'ers come up in a different order | 12:40 |
| sistpoty | and btw.: it's working w.o. problems with 2.6.12 ;) | 12:41 |
| BenC | hmm | 12:42 |
| sistpoty | I did some more upgrades between reboots... I'll check what exactly they were | 12:43 |
| BenC | oh, wow, ide0 and ide1 were probed after 2,3,4,5 | 12:45 |
| BenC | interesting | 12:45 |
| BenC | ide0 failed in your good system | 12:45 |
| BenC | ide0: I/O resource | 12:45 |
| BenC | 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free. | 12:45 |
| BenC | so it wasn't a success, just failed differently | 12:46 |
| sistpoty | he, k... ide0 is my cdrom drivers... I didn't actually use it | 12:47 |
| sistpoty | s/drivers/drives/ | 12:47 |
| BenC | have you tried any of the acpi=off pci=noacpi options? | 12:47 |
| sistpoty | not yet | 12:49 |
| sistpoty | I'll try that... brb | 12:49 |
| infinity | What bug number is this | 12:51 |
| infinity | ? | 12:51 |
| sistpoty | 20910 | 12:51 |
| sistpoty | <- rebooting | 12:51 |
| infinity | BenC : Also, ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free isn't an error, usually, it just means ide-generic got loaded after a better IDE driver already claimed the resources. | 12:51 |
| infinity | BenC : I was going to push you a change to make that printk less scary (and more obviously informative) | 12:52 |
| infinity | (We already dropped it from an error to a warning to get it off people's screens during boot, since most people will ALWAYS see it) | 12:52 |
| infinity | Oh, I see. | 12:55 |
| infinity | Nevermind. | 12:55 |
| infinity | This is... Interesting. | 12:55 |
| infinity | I'd bet on an ide-generic race, still. | 12:57 |
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| infinity | (ie: ide-generic being loaded before, or during, the hptXXX load) | 12:58 |
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| sistpoty | re | 01:02 |
| sistpoty | strange... adding acpi=off pci=noacpi did work, but again only once :( | 01:03 |
| infinity | Red herring, probably. | 01:03 |
| infinity | Can you try "echo 'blacklist ide-generic' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ide && update-initramfs -u"? | 01:04 |
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| zul | heylo | 01:05 |
| sistpoty | infinity: sure | 01:05 |
| sistpoty | rebooting again | 01:06 |
| zul | hey infinity | 01:06 |
| infinity | Yo. | 01:08 |
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| sistpoty | infinity: works with ide-generic blacklisted (I rebooted twice, both times success) | 01:13 |
| infinity | Figured. | 01:14 |
| infinity | Can you update the bug to say so? | 01:14 |
| sistpoty | infinity: sure, will do | 01:14 |
| infinity | Then change the package to "udev", and reassign it to "scott-bugs@ubuntu.com"? :) | 01:15 |
| sistpoty | ok, will do | 01:15 |
| BenC | sweet | 01:15 |
| BenC | sorry, stepped out for a second | 01:16 |
| sistpoty | thx for your help BenC and infinity | 01:16 |
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| BenC | jbailey: -9.11? | 01:18 |
| === BenC still has one bug with his G4 | ||
| jbailey | BenC: Yes, I'm using it now. | 01:18 |
| BenC | if I boot straight to gdm, the keyboard only works for about 15 seconds and then stops | 01:18 |
| BenC | everything else works (mouse, UI, etc.) | 01:19 |
| BenC | if I boot to console, and then start gdm, everything is fine | 01:19 |
| jbailey | Weird. | 01:19 |
| infinity | That's pretty special. | 01:19 |
| jbailey | Not seeing that with my ppc64. | 01:19 |
| BenC | there's a bug report about it, so I know it isn't just me | 01:19 |
| zul | back later...hockey game | 01:20 |
| jbailey | zul: Who's playing | 01:20 |
| jbailey | ? | 01:20 |
| zul | ottawa/montreal | 01:20 |
| BenC | and I know it isn't a USB issue, since mouse is on the same bus | 01:20 |
| jbailey | zul: Oh. I suppose I should thumb my chest and growl at you. | 01:20 |
| jbailey | zul: Consider it done. =) | 01:20 |
| zul | jbailey: wohoo :) | 01:20 |
| BenC | I think it's a timing issue between console keymap being loaded and gdm doing something with the keyboard aswell | 01:20 |
| infinity | The console keymap is loaded REALLY early (rcS.d/S05keymap.sh), so I don't see how it could conflict with gdm loading the X keymaps. | 01:23 |
| infinity | Oh look, jbailey crashed already. | 01:24 |
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| jbailey | BenC: Sorry, X hung again. | 01:29 |
| BenC | infinity Oh look, jbailey crashed already. | 01:31 |
| BenC | :) | 01:31 |
| jbailey | =) | 01:32 |
| BenC | so rc6 doesn't fix it | 01:32 |
| BenC | infinity: well something after gdm is screwing it up | 01:32 |
| BenC | jbailey: and I have nothing special for ppc64 in my tree, it's all stock | 01:33 |
| BenC | but you could try a monolithic stock 2.6.15-rc6 just to be sure :/ | 01:33 |
| BenC | who knows, maybe this is a gcc-4.0 issue | 01:33 |
| jbailey | BenC: You said that static klibc was working for you on ia64, right? | 01:55 |
| BenC | yes | 01:55 |
| BenC | I booted with it | 01:55 |
| jbailey | Cool. | 01:55 |
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| zul | heyl | 02:20 |
| jbailey | zul: Did we win already? | 02:25 |
| zul | yes ottawa is winning 1-0 | 02:25 |
| jbailey | Bah. =) | 02:26 |
| jbailey | Of course, I don't actually even know the name of the Montral hockey team. =) | 02:26 |
| infinity | Les Habitants. | 02:27 |
| jbailey | Err. | 02:27 |
| jbailey | "The people who live here"? | 02:28 |
| jbailey | Special. =) | 02:28 |
| infinity | (Some people will say it's the Montreal Canadians, but they're WRONG) | 02:28 |
| zul | canadiens | 02:28 |
| === infinity tries to figure out when they were renamed.. | ||
| zul | they were always the canadiens in quebec | 02:29 |
| zul | heh...in ottawa we call them looser | 02:30 |
| jbailey | If we separate, I vote the name stays. =) | 02:30 |
| zul | loosers even.. | 02:30 |
| jbailey | zul: It would certainly be hard to be tighter than someone from Ottawa... | 02:30 |
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| jbailey | (Is this in violation of the CoC?) | 02:30 |
| zul | i am aghast that you said that | 02:31 |
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| jbailey | terror-struck. | 02:31 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 02:31 |
| zul | impiling that im tight...which is true...but thats not the point | 02:31 |
| infinity | Ahh, they were always the Canadiens, the locals just CALL them Les Habitants. | 02:32 |
| infinity | Yay confusion. | 02:32 |
| zul | yay...back to the game | 02:32 |
| jbailey | infinity: Will you hate me if I move klibc-LiNeNoiSe.so to /lib? | 02:32 |
| jbailey | infinity: It seems to be where they're standardising putting it, even though all the apps are where we put them. | 02:32 |
| jbailey | It has the nice side effect of being able to test them on a running system. | 02:32 |
| infinity | jbailey : I don't care one iota, since we're removing it from initramfs anyway. ;P | 02:33 |
| jbailey | Lovely. =) | 02:33 |
| jbailey | I haven't gone through the effort of looking at that stuff yet. Running out of time. | 02:33 |
| jbailey | But at least with my 1.1.8 upload it should work everywhere. | 02:33 |
| jbailey | Hell, even on alpha. | 02:33 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: Around? | 02:34 |
| jbailey | ls | 02:34 |
| BenC | infinity: no more klibc in initramfs? | 02:37 |
| jbailey | BenC: He's not tight into my vision of getting rid of busybox eventually. =) | 02:38 |
| jbailey | infinity: Although I'm inclined to ask you to keep it in for now. | 02:38 |
| BenC | doesn't busybox have an option to compile against klibc? | 02:38 |
| jbailey | infinity: I've been thinking about buntu a bit more. | 02:38 |
| jbailey | Does it? | 02:38 |
| BenC | I saw that in the makefile | 02:38 |
| jbailey | Creepy. | 02:38 |
| infinity | Very creepy. | 02:43 |
| infinity | jbailey : I'm not tossing it tomorrow or anything. It's not like it hurts US to have two libcs in there. | 02:44 |
| infinity | Our initramfs is fat, and who really cares? No one. | 02:44 |
| jbailey | svenl. =) | 02:44 |
| infinity | But, eventually, a line needs to be drawn. "reasonably small, and very functional", versus "really, really small, and not so functional" | 02:44 |
| infinity | And I have no qualms about having initramfs have two modes for that. | 02:44 |
| infinity | Basically, an "I detect that your setup will require glibc, so we'll copy that in, use the utils linked to glibc, and punt klibc out completely", or "Holy crap, you can build a tiny initramfs with just klibc, go you, let's do that then." | 02:45 |
| infinity | (The latter option being blacklisted on any arch where we think it may break, until all seem to be well-tested and reasonably maintained) | 02:46 |
| BenC | yeah, that sounds like the right plan | 02:46 |
| infinity | That means double-builds of anything we want in initramfs that supports klibc, but that's no big deal really. | 02:47 |
| BenC | just get rid of mkinitrd completely :) | 02:47 |
| BenC | maybe I was wrong about busybox | 02:53 |
| BenC | trying to remember what it was that could build with klibc | 02:53 |
| BenC | maybe it was udev | 02:53 |
| jbailey | Udev definetly. | 02:53 |
| jbailey | 'k. klibc on ia64 hacked to work. | 02:54 |
| BenC | building static? | 02:54 |
| jbailey | Specifically installing static on ia64. | 02:54 |
| BenC | when will this be done? | 02:55 |
| jbailey | I have it in my tree right now. | 02:56 |
| BenC | just wondering when I can make the change to kernel-package :) | 02:56 |
| jbailey | The last thing I need to do before uploading is add some sort of test to it. | 02:57 |
| jbailey | I don't know how best to do that, though. Hmm | 02:58 |
| jbailey | Suck program. | 02:58 |
| jbailey | I thin it's probably best to just build it everywhere and hope this time around. | 02:59 |
| jbailey | I'll get the patches in upstream to make testing not suck. | 03:00 |
| zul | 3-2 | 03:05 |
| jbailey | BenC: ping | 03:19 |
| jbailey | ? | 03:19 |
| jbailey | It seems like asm-ppc doesn't contain errno,h | 03:19 |
| jbailey | Just want to confirm that asm-ppc is the new black. | 03:19 |
| BenC | asm-powerpc | 03:23 |
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| fabbione | morning | 03:55 |
| zul | evening | 04:06 |
| BenC | hola | 04:27 |
| fabbione | hey Ben | 04:29 |
| fabbione | BenC: i have been checkign the amd64-generic kernel on i386 | 04:30 |
| fabbione | we have two options to do it | 04:30 |
| fabbione | one is building it in the i386 upload | 04:31 |
| fabbione | the other is to do a little trick during amd64 build | 04:31 |
| fabbione | the latter takes about 5 secs of machine time | 04:31 |
| fabbione | the former is cleaner, but it introduce another flavour to build, with a i386 gcc crossbuilding to amd64 (that might introduce unwanted behaviour bugs) | 04:32 |
| fabbione | so i wanted to talk with you about what way you would prefer it done | 04:33 |
| fabbione | since i am doing other kernel stuff today, i might as well get around it | 04:33 |
| BenC | I see a problem with the first way | 04:35 |
| BenC | I looked at it, and it causes issues with kernel headers creation and such...we'd have to add some new handlers to the build for it to work | 04:36 |
| BenC | what is the benefit of it anyway? | 04:37 |
| fabbione | oh right.. kernel headers.. | 04:46 |
| fabbione | i totally forgot about it | 04:46 |
| fabbione | i just did the image :/ | 04:46 |
| fabbione | oh the benefit is that we skip one extra image to build on i386 and it takes about 5 secs to publish | 04:46 |
| fabbione | less config duplication | 04:47 |
| fabbione | but well you got a point i didn't think about | 04:47 |
| fabbione | so clearly it needs to be builded properly | 04:47 |
| BenC | well building it proper was the problem I was having :) | 04:47 |
| BenC | there's conflicts with cross building in our build system | 04:48 |
| fabbione | hmm ok | 04:48 |
| fabbione | i guess we need to get that fixed | 04:48 |
| BenC | it would take some new debian/rules crack to get it right | 04:48 |
| BenC | fabbione: did I tell you I ordered my 17" powerbook? | 04:49 |
| fabbione | BenC: ah cool.. no you didn't :) | 04:49 |
| BenC | should be here after the new year | 04:49 |
| fabbione | BenC: if the ppc installer in dapper doesn't work, i have breezy custom netboot images for it | 04:49 |
| BenC | ok | 04:50 |
| fabbione | it needs a modified .12 to go | 04:50 |
| BenC | have you tested flight livecd on your machine? | 04:50 |
| fabbione | somebody did kill halley.. | 04:50 |
| BenC | flight2 | 04:50 |
| fabbione | not yet | 04:50 |
| fabbione | i had no time to play with CD's yet | 04:50 |
| fabbione | i prefer netboot | 04:50 |
| fabbione | it's kind of a tradition that i test netinstalls while the others play with CD's | 04:51 |
| infinity | Oh, crap. | 04:52 |
| fabbione | GO HALLEY! | 04:52 |
| infinity | BenC : How far off is -9.12? | 04:52 |
| fabbione | WTF IS GOING ON WITH DC MACHINES? | 04:52 |
| infinity | BenC : I accidentally did a mass dep-wait clear, which freed up linux-meta to build on amd64. :) | 04:52 |
| fabbione | i can't fork anymore as i was used to | 04:52 |
| BenC | infinity: was going to upload within 30 minutes | 04:53 |
| infinity | BenC : Yay. Then I won't feel too bad about it. | 04:53 |
| BenC | no ABI bump! :) | 04:53 |
| infinity | BenC : It's not like anyone canreliably dist-upgrade right now with dbus threatening to remove everything, so I doubt anyone will notice. | 04:53 |
| fabbione | speaking of dbus.. | 04:54 |
| fabbione | i am going to lart somebody with that mono shit they did arch: all | 04:54 |
| fabbione | mono is not portable. mmmmmk? | 04:54 |
| infinity | Crazy talk, mono is the new Java, which means it runs EVERYWHERE* | 04:55 |
| infinity | * some conditions apply, check your retailer for details | 04:55 |
| jbailey | BenC: Is asm-ppc or asm-powerpc the right one? | 04:57 |
| BenC | asm-powerpc | 04:57 |
| infinity | powerpc | 04:57 |
| infinity | (why are we still shipping asm-ppc?) | 04:57 |
| BenC | for powerpc, some files are still in asm-ppc | 04:58 |
| BenC | ppc64 is totally converted to powerpc though | 04:59 |
| jbailey | $ ls -ald asm | 04:59 |
| jbailey | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2005-12-20 21:10 asm -> asm-ppc | 04:59 |
| BenC | hmm | 04:59 |
| jbailey | BenC: Can you change the symlink pointer in linux-headers? | 04:59 |
| jbailey | I thought you had before, but I might be confused. | 04:59 |
| jbailey | But klibc will ftbfs on ppc from it. | 04:59 |
| BenC | is that linux-headers-2.6.15-9 or linux-headers-2.6.15-9-powerpc? | 04:59 |
| jbailey | no asm/errno.h | 05:00 |
| BenC | that's probably why | 05:00 |
| jbailey | jbailey@starshine:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-9/include$ | 05:00 |
| BenC | linux-headers-2.6.15-9 doesn't use the right arch mapping | 05:00 |
| fabbione | it doesn't know about arch mapping iirc | 05:00 |
| fabbione | that's an arch: all pkg, isn't it? | 05:01 |
| jbailey | Filename: pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-headers-2.6.15-9_2.6.15-9.11_powerpc.deb | 05:01 |
| jbailey | Looks like no. | 05:01 |
| jbailey | Plus I count on the asm symlink being pointed right. | 05:01 |
| jbailey | Although I guess that could be set in the postinst | 05:01 |
| infinity | Ick. | 05:02 |
| fabbione | infinity: so what version of dbus i need to build to get out of that mess? | 05:02 |
| infinity | Real arch-mapping happens in the subflavour packages. | 05:02 |
| fabbione | ubuntu4? | 05:02 |
| infinity | The linux-headers generic packages should point the arch at the dpkg arch. | 05:02 |
| fabbione | or we need to wait a new one? | 05:02 |
| BenC | I see it | 05:02 |
| infinity | fabbione : Which mess? | 05:03 |
| fabbione | infinity: you said that dbus is attempting to deinstall * | 05:03 |
| fabbione | infinity BenC : It's not like anyone canreliably dist-upgrade right now with dbus threatening to remove everything, so I doubt anyone will notice. | 05:03 |
| infinity | fabbione : Oh. Uhm. Rebuild the whole archive against the current dbus? mvo's been working on it. | 05:03 |
| jbailey | BenC: Do you want something in bugzilla from me for this? | 05:04 |
| infinity | Transitions are fun. | 05:04 |
| jbailey | Transitioning is fun. | 05:04 |
| jbailey | Err. | 05:04 |
| BenC | jbailey: nah, it's going to be fixed in -9.12, which will be uploaded in about 20 minutes | 05:04 |
| fabbione | infinity: amen.. the new d-bus is not even installable on sparc.. go figure | 05:04 |
| jbailey | BenC: Thanks. I'll try klibc again tomorrow then, | 05:04 |
| infinity | jbailey : I like how that aligned nicely over here, due to our nicks being differing lengths. | 05:04 |
| infinity | <infinity> Transitions are fun. | 05:05 |
| infinity | <jbailey> Transitioning is fun. | 05:05 |
| fabbione | i guess this is yet another xmas project.. | 05:05 |
| infinity | Some sort of typographically-pretty jinx. | 05:05 |
| fabbione | get sparc to install again | 05:05 |
| jbailey | infinity: =) I hadn't seen that. x-chat start of line aligns. Cool. =) | 05:05 |
| jbailey | Sleep time for now I guess. demain! | 05:06 |
| fabbione | jbailey: night | 05:07 |
| infinity | 'Night. | 05:07 |
| BenC | good night | 05:07 |
| fabbione | time to build orgy the next security update | 05:08 |
| fabbione | oh weird http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20771 | 05:09 |
| fabbione | BenC: the guy did test the kernels with some reverted patches.. | 05:09 |
| fabbione | i am curious to see if i revert all of them | 05:10 |
| fabbione | and just rebuild | 05:10 |
| BenC | odd results | 05:11 |
| fabbione | and the 2 removed patches are the most intrusive ABI killing ones | 05:11 |
| fabbione | exactly | 05:11 |
| BenC | fabbione: vtun is up if you want to do any builds on the e3k | 05:12 |
| fabbione | BenC: cool thanks but i alredy did 9.11 here | 05:15 |
| BenC | 9.12 will be up soon, so you can do that (although, it's already built here :) | 05:15 |
| fabbione | ehhe | 05:16 |
| fabbione | ok | 05:16 |
| fabbione | if you can copy the sources you upload into /org/chroots i can build it in parallel | 05:16 |
| BenC | I do the sources from concordia | 05:16 |
| fabbione | oh ok | 05:17 |
| fabbione | i will wait it hits the archive | 05:17 |
| fabbione | i am in no hurry and woke up 2 hours before usual time | 05:17 |
| BenC | any chance I could get you to ^Z your build on concordia just till I get this source built? | 05:17 |
| fabbione | oh sure.. | 05:17 |
| BenC | thanks | 05:18 |
| fabbione | i did slow it down :) | 05:18 |
| fabbione | but i have most of it in ccache | 05:18 |
| fabbione | so it shouldn't hurt you too much | 05:18 |
| infinity | mjg59 : I'll give you my firstborn if you fix acpi-support on ia64. | 05:21 |
| BenC | the only problem I have with acpi on ia64 is that it gets misrouted irq's and disables the acpi interrupt | 05:22 |
| BenC | well, that's my only current problem :) | 05:22 |
| BenC | if the irq worked, no telling what else might be wrong | 05:23 |
| fabbione | oh christ | 05:24 |
| fabbione | pitti did upload the 348t32 lang-packs | 05:24 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-9.12 uploaded (The "Taunting Tatertots Tortured Timmy" release) | ||
| BenC | and with that, good night | 05:33 |
| fabbione | good night BenC | 05:34 |
| infinity | BenC : Cheers, g'night. | 05:43 |
| lamont | BenC: if you want, I can give you a login on the hppa machine, where you can harvest abi files | 06:07 |
| lamont | BenC: new hppa kernel uploaded | 06:14 |
| lamont | well, 9.11 | 06:14 |
| fabbione | that will be rejected since .12 is in | 06:15 |
| lamont | sigh | 06:16 |
| fabbione | i think i just crashed concordia | 06:17 |
| fabbione | or it's extremely slow | 06:17 |
| fabbione | the latter.. | 06:18 |
| infinity | lamont : Also, "HA, HA!" | 06:23 |
| lamont | infinity: ?? | 06:23 |
| infinity | (your kernel binaries being REJECTED) | 06:27 |
| lamont | PLBBBBTT | 06:27 |
| lamont | sigh. if (a) forward-to-hp else if (b) forward to hp. | 06:29 |
| lamont | I think B wanted to be different. | 06:29 |
| lamont | next kernel should make it | 06:29 |
| === infinity laughs. | ||
| === lamont -> bed | ||
| fabbione | night lamont | 06:30 |
| === cjb appears, hello. | ||
| infinity | Argh. | 06:33 |
| === infinity gets ready to upload -9.13 | ||
| infinity | Guys, kill those builds. :) | 06:33 |
| cjb | ! | 06:33 |
| fabbione | infinity: ? | 06:33 |
| fabbione | infinity: what's wrong with .12? | 06:35 |
| infinity | Missing /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.15-2.6.15/debian/abi/2.6.15-9.11/amd64/amd64-server file. | 06:36 |
| infinity | make: *** [clean] Error 1 | 06:36 |
| fabbione | oh | 06:37 |
| infinity | Yeha, "oh". | 06:37 |
| fabbione | let me check if it's in git | 06:37 |
| infinity | One would assume not. :) | 06:37 |
| fabbione | never say never | 06:37 |
| infinity | Ben's script to auto-grab the ABI files probably wasn't updated to grab the ABI for the new flavour. | 06:37 |
| fabbione | right | 06:39 |
| fabbione | it's not there at all | 06:39 |
| fabbione | do you have a git tree handy? | 06:40 |
| infinity | Alright, well, assuming you have more bandwidth than I do (you do), you want to grab the amd64-server ABI stuff, update the source, and upload -9.13? | 06:40 |
| fabbione | infinity: i can do it, yes.. | 06:40 |
| infinity | Well, I can do it just fine. | 06:40 |
| fabbione | but it's much simpler to do it on concordia anyway | 06:40 |
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| fabbione | or chinstrap | 06:41 |
| infinity | It'll just take a while for me to upload. :) | 06:41 |
| fabbione | why? | 06:41 |
| fabbione | just sign the .dsc and .changes locally | 06:41 |
| infinity | Oh, true. I could do it remotely, and just grab the .changes. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | do the work remote :) | 06:41 |
| fabbione | score | 06:41 |
| fabbione | :) | 06:41 |
| infinity | Alright, I'll do it then. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:41 |
| fabbione | doko: ping? | 08:39 |
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| CataEnry | hi all | 08:56 |
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| infinity | Oh, FFS. I give up. FTBFS on amd64 again. | 10:08 |
| infinity | I knew I should have tested the build. | 10:09 |
| fabbione | how does it fail? | 10:12 |
| infinity | It's the new bit Ben added for KPKG_ARCH during headers install. | 10:13 |
| infinity | export KPKG_ARCH=$(grep "^headers-amd64[[:space:] ] " debian/config/archmap | grep -v ^# | awk '{print $2}'); \ | 10:13 |
| infinity | cd debian/build/linux-source-2.6.15; \ | 10:13 |
| infinity | HEADER_CLEAN_HOOK=/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.15-2.6.15/debian/header-install \ | 10:13 |
| infinity | make-kpkg --stem linux --append_to_version -9 kernel-headers | 10:13 |
| infinity | unknown Debian architecture x86_64, you must specify GNU system type, too at /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture line 214. | 10:13 |
| infinity | /usr/share/kernel-package/rules:1652: *** Error. I do not know where the kernel image goes to [kimagedest undefined] The usual case for this is that I could not determine which arch or subarch tihs machine belongs to. Please specify a subarch, and try again.. Stop. | 10:13 |
| infinity | make[1] : Leaving directory `/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.15-2.6.15/debian/build/linux-source-2.6.15' | 10:13 |
| infinity | make: *** [binary-debs] Error 2 | 10:13 |
| fabbione | ah yeah | 10:14 |
| fabbione | i know how to fix that | 10:14 |
| infinity | Yeah, as do I. Just frustrating to see it fail during install. | 10:15 |
| fabbione | it's a missing line in debian/config/archmap | 10:15 |
| infinity | Too bad lamont's not around to feed me his ABI files, so I can include them in the next upload. | 10:15 |
| fabbione | i could build on hppa | 10:15 |
| fabbione | if you can give me the time to do so | 10:16 |
| infinity | Sure, go nuts. Any of .11, .12, or .13 would be fine, so I can get the ABI file for -9 | 10:16 |
| infinity | s/file/files/ | 10:16 |
| fabbione | oh fuck | 10:17 |
| fabbione | i need to resync again the local mirror | 10:17 |
| fabbione | yeah i am on it.. | 10:18 |
| fabbione | build test amd64 in the meanwhile | 10:18 |
| infinity | <nod> | 10:18 |
| infinity | You're not abusing concordia, are you? | 10:18 |
| fabbione | i am only at -j10 | 10:18 |
| fabbione | you can take the rest :) | 10:18 |
| infinity | (Zofia's using her amd64, so I can't) | 10:18 |
| fabbione | it's almost all in ccache | 10:18 |
| fabbione | so cpu is free | 10:19 |
| infinity | "only -j10"... Feh. | 10:19 |
| fabbione | building now | 10:22 |
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| fabbione | ? | 10:42 |
| infinity | I think Ben was confusing kernel arch and KPKG_ARCH here. | 10:42 |
| infinity | KPKG_ARCH for x86_64 is amd64, right? | 10:43 |
| fabbione | yes | 10:43 |
| fabbione | look at the others :) | 10:43 |
| infinity | And KPKG_ARCH for parisc is hppa. | 10:43 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 10:44 |
| fabbione | no the other way around | 10:44 |
| infinity | Yay sanity. | 10:44 |
| fabbione | i think | 10:44 |
| infinity | No. | 10:44 |
| fabbione | i can't remember | 10:44 |
| infinity | Kernel arch != KPKG_ARCH. | 10:44 |
| infinity | At least, not the way they're used here. | 10:44 |
| fabbione | i know | 10:44 |
| infinity | parisc is definitely the kernel arch. :) | 10:44 |
| fabbione | right | 10:44 |
| infinity | (As is x86_64) | 10:44 |
| fabbione | amd64-server amd64 | 10:45 |
| fabbione | this is correct | 10:45 |
| infinity | So, yeah. I think I'll fix up the generic headers bit to be 3 columns. | 10:45 |
| infinity | Actually, not needed, since the 3rd column would match $(arch) anyway. | 10:46 |
| infinity | But I guess, on the off chance more kernels get added where $(arch) != KPKG_ARCH, I should do it right. | 10:46 |
| infinity | Did sparc build? | 10:46 |
| infinity | It should fail in the same spot, unless both sparc and sparc64 are valid values for KPKG_ARCH. | 10:47 |
| fabbione | 9.11 is in the archive.. | 10:47 |
| fabbione | the ABI files are in .12 | 10:47 |
| infinity | 9.12 is where this "fix" was added. | 10:47 |
| fabbione | ah | 10:47 |
| infinity | So if 9.12 or 9.13 built on sparc, my hypothesis is shot. | 10:47 |
| infinity | But I think it should fail, same as it did on amd64. | 10:47 |
| fabbione | i dunno... i didn't even try to build it | 10:47 |
| infinity | Heh. | 10:47 |
| fabbione | since i know you are working on .14 | 10:47 |
| infinity | How fast is the e3k? | 10:48 |
| fabbione | it depends.. | 10:48 |
| fabbione | when it doesn't crash is fast | 10:48 |
| fabbione | but afaik ben did build .12 on the e3k | 10:48 |
| fabbione | infinity: may i suggest for the sake of mirrors.. to stop here and let ben fix .14? | 10:49 |
| fabbione | also because all these changes are not making it into git | 10:49 |
| infinity | I was going to git them just nowish. | 10:51 |
| infinity | I'm fine with holding off too, though. Mainly cause I can't test sparc, though from my reading of kernel-package, I'm pretty sure of how this SHOULD be done. | 10:54 |
| fabbione | let's hold it | 10:55 |
| fabbione | it's not the end of the world | 10:55 |
| fabbione | but if you really want to build kernel pkgs.. i can send you -security :) | 10:56 |
| infinity | Heh. | 10:56 |
| infinity | Nah, the only reason I wanted to get it in was because -9 has still not built successfully on amd64, but -meta has (oops), so it's uninstallable. | 10:57 |
| infinity | Not really earth-shattering. | 10:57 |
| infinity | If you can finish off that hppa build, though, we can get the hppa ABI stuff in, and I'll tidy up some stuff locally here, and Ben can just pull. | 10:57 |
| fabbione | linux-image-2.6.15-9-amd64-server_2.6.15-9.11_amd64.deb | 10:57 |
| fabbione | dude.. | 10:57 |
| fabbione | it's there | 10:57 |
| fabbione | yeah hppa is building | 10:58 |
| infinity | Oh, sorry. Not "-9 hasn't built", rather ">= -9.12 hasn't built"... The headers in -9.11 were broken, so LRM couldn't build. | 10:58 |
| fabbione | ahh ok | 10:58 |
| fabbione | i should also go out to buy console cables | 10:59 |
| fabbione | i am waiting for warty/amd64 to finish to build | 10:59 |
| fabbione | so i can slam hoary on * | 10:59 |
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| doko | fabbione: pong | 11:34 |
| fabbione | doko: i did try to add the amd64-generic kernel to i386 | 11:34 |
| fabbione | but i am afraid it's not exactly doable | 11:35 |
| fabbione | and it's very very hackish | 11:35 |
| fabbione | i will give it another shot after i finish the security updates | 11:35 |
| fabbione | but i can tell you that it doesn't even compile the first .c | 11:35 |
| doko | hmm, strange. | 11:38 |
| fabbione | not really | 11:39 |
| fabbione | arch/x86_64/Makefile doesn't understand CROSSCOMPILE | 11:39 |
| fabbione | and forcing HOSTCC='gcc -m64 | 11:40 |
| fabbione | makes everything cry | 11:40 |
| fabbione | again.. i need to check it more | 11:40 |
| fabbione | this was a fast test.. it might be other stuff that needs to be modified | 11:40 |
| fabbione | like make-kpkg | 11:40 |
| infinity | BenC : I have set myself up on rookery according to the wiki. Pull at will. | 11:48 |
| doko | fabbione, BenC: is there a way to look at debian kernel changelog and say: this upload fixes remote exploits / local exploits (for the breezy-security uploads)? | 01:25 |
| fabbione | eh? | 01:26 |
| fabbione | isn't zcat /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname -r)/changelog.Debian.gz enough? | 01:26 |
| doko | that's not the point. as a sysadmin I may know my local users and schedule a downtime for a reboot. if there are known remote exploits I should be a bit quicker. at a first glance from the changelog, I can't tell if the upload fixes remote exploits | 01:29 |
| infinity | Which is why, as a sysadmin, you sibscribe to ubuntu-security-announce, which gives you more detail on this (and other exploits that aren't the kernel)? | 01:31 |
| fabbione | doko: exactly. you look at the u-s-a | 01:33 |
| fabbione | last time we did try to alling changelog with USN it was a mess of confusion | 01:34 |
| fabbione | because USN is written after | 01:34 |
| fabbione | with very different working | 01:34 |
| fabbione | wording | 01:34 |
| fabbione | if you are a sysadm with that kind of paranoia, you also know where to find mitre | 01:34 |
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| jbailey | BenC: ping? | 01:37 |
| BenC | jbailey: pong | 01:44 |
| fabbione | hey Ben | 01:45 |
| infinity | Morning, Ben. | 01:45 |
| infinity | BenC : Pull from my git repo on rookery to see how muhc I hate you. | 01:45 |
| BenC | good morning | 01:45 |
| BenC | heh, ok | 01:45 |
| infinity | (And how much I hate myself for not testing my first change..) | 01:46 |
| jbailey | g'morning Ben! | 01:49 |
| jbailey | BenC: The asm symlink still seems to be wrong. | 01:49 |
| jbailey | In -9.13 | 01:49 |
| BenC | hmm | 01:49 |
| infinity | jbailey : Where does it point? | 01:50 |
| jbailey | asm-ppc | 01:50 |
| infinity | Woo. | 01:50 |
| jbailey | ii linux-headers- 2.6.15-9.13 Header files related to Linux kernel version | 01:50 |
| jbailey | jbailey@starshine:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-9/include$ ls -ald asm lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2005-12-21 07:09 asm -> asm-ppc | 01:50 |
| infinity | So the part of -9.12 that broke (and I've fixed in git) is probably still broken anyway. | 01:50 |
| fabbione | SCORE | 01:51 |
| infinity | (broke, as in "failed to build on amd64") | 01:51 |
| BenC | figures my last minute change broke it | 01:51 |
| fabbione | you guys ROCK SO MUCH | 01:51 |
| fabbione | ;O | 01:51 |
| fabbione | BenC: i was wise not to burn your e3k to build .12 :) | 01:51 |
| fabbione | btw.. hppa ABI files are almost ready | 01:51 |
| infinity | Yay! | 01:52 |
| fabbione | i must sleep | 01:52 |
| fabbione | be back in 2 hours | 01:52 |
| infinity | Have a good nap. | 01:52 |
| fabbione | thanks | 01:53 |
| BenC | so I guess -9.14 will be uploaded in a few minutes :) | 01:54 |
| jbailey | BenC: \o/ | 01:54 |
| BenC | later fabio | 01:54 |
| infinity | BenC : You found the symlink issue? | 01:55 |
| BenC | I thought your fixes did that? | 01:55 |
| infinity | No, jeff just told me it was wrong. I just fixed your horrible FTBFS on amd64. | 01:55 |
| fabbione | BenC: if you can wait that i am back, i can give you the hppa abi files | 01:55 |
| infinity | My fix won't change a thing on powerpc. | 01:55 |
| fabbione | up to you | 01:55 |
| fabbione | they are almost done | 01:55 |
| BenC | I have the ones for .12 | 01:56 |
| BenC | I saved my final builds this time | 01:56 |
| fabbione | ok | 01:56 |
| BenC | so I was just missing amd64 | 01:56 |
| infinity | Oh, spiffy. | 01:56 |
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| jbailey | I can cheerfully burn my morning on support calls and glibc if you need time on the kernel. | 01:56 |
| fabbione | and takes off | 01:56 |
| jbailey | I just want to rid the world of initrd-tools. | 01:56 |
| infinity | You and me both. | 01:56 |
| jbailey | infinity: I don't consider this an exclusive club.. =) | 01:57 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i think i know why .15 did install fine on ia64 | 01:57 |
| === infinity looks closer into this symlink issue. | ||
| fabbione | jbailey: i will confirm my theory later | 01:57 |
| infinity | I suppose we could just violently set it manually, if we can't wokr out why it's being broken. | 01:57 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Cool. Don't burn any time on it. I have a working klibc now. | 01:57 |
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| BenC | infinity: I think your change will fix it | 01:59 |
| infinity | It shouldn't. | 02:00 |
| BenC | if it doesn't, it means that kernel-package needs fixing | 02:00 |
| infinity | powerpc should end up in precisely the same boat. | 02:00 |
| BenC | your change should fix amd64 failure | 02:00 |
| infinity | yes, it definitely will do that. | 02:01 |
| BenC | if we pass powerpc to kernel-package, it should DTRT | 02:01 |
| infinity | We already did. | 02:01 |
| infinity | So, it's broken. :) | 02:01 |
| infinity | Which means a kernel-package bughunt and upload before -9.14, if you don't want to see jbailey cry. | 02:02 |
| BenC | make prepare creates the symlink | 02:07 |
| BenC | which is in debian/rules:build of the linux-source build | 02:07 |
| infinity | Which means the KPKG_ARCH stuff later on was meaningless. :) | 02:08 |
| BenC | and the symlink in debian/tmp-headers is ok | 02:10 |
| infinity | ! | 02:10 |
| BenC | the link in the .deb is right too | 02:15 |
| infinity | Uhm. | 02:15 |
| BenC | heh, the link in my 9.12 .deb is right | 02:16 |
| infinity | Oh ,christ, the postinst sets it. | 02:16 |
| infinity | $architecture = "ppc" if $architecture eq "powerpc"; | 02:16 |
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| infinity | There's the fix. | 02:16 |
| BenC | rofl | 02:17 |
| infinity | I'll upload a shiny new kernel-package right now. | 02:17 |
| infinity | May as well leave all the current hacks in now, if they work. | 02:17 |
| infinity | (and to save face) :) | 02:17 |
| BenC | yeah, I'll build-dep on this new kernel package | 02:18 |
| infinity | Does 'uname -m' now say powerpc as well? | 02:19 |
| infinity | Like, is ppc completely dead? | 02:19 |
| jbailey | jbailey@starshine:~$ linux32 uname -m | 02:19 |
| jbailey | ppc | 02:19 |
| infinity | Hrm. Should I conditionalise this to a specific kernel version? | 02:21 |
| infinity | Or do we care about make-kpkg working on older kernels? | 02:21 |
| jbailey | I suspect it changes enough with initramfs tweaks, etc. that it's unlikely to work right on older kernels anyway. | 02:22 |
| infinity | Fair enough. | 02:22 |
| infinity | kernel-package AWAY. | 02:22 |
| infinity | BenC : 9.001ubuntu10 for your build-dep. | 02:23 |
| BenC | you uploaded? | 02:24 |
| infinity | Yup. | 02:24 |
| BenC | did you get the one for src.postinst aswell? | 02:24 |
| infinity | Yup. | 02:24 |
| BenC | ok | 02:24 |
| infinity | rgrep loves me. | 02:24 |
| BenC | it's a race then, because I uploaded too :) | 02:24 |
| infinity | Hah. | 02:25 |
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| infinity | You probably beat me, due to my shitty upstream. :) | 02:25 |
| infinity | I started the upload 5 minutes ago, finished when I gave you the version number. | 02:25 |
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| infinity | Oh, I win. | 02:26 |
| infinity | One REJECT for Ben. | 02:26 |
| infinity | Hrm, is there a way to avoid this "foo same as branch bar" on every "git pull"? | 02:28 |
| infinity | (Or am I not supposed to be using "pull" to keep up to date?... Yay, newbieism) | 02:28 |
| BenC | you can delete everything from .git/refs/heads except origin and master | 02:28 |
| BenC | damnit | 02:34 |
| BenC | concordia is buckling under fabio's build | 02:34 |
| BenC | gonna take a bit to get the upload ready | 02:34 |
| infinity | Big shock there. | 02:34 |
| infinity | If you use -j50, you'll fork hard enough to steal some of his -j10, probably.. <smirk> | 02:35 |
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| BenC | only thing my build is doing is dpkg-deb --build :) | 02:35 |
| infinity | Anyhow, as long as you remember all the ABI files this time, it should be good to go. | 02:35 |
| BenC | he's doing -j150 :) | 02:35 |
| infinity | You're kidding.. | 02:36 |
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| BenC | no, load is 170 | 02:36 |
| CataEnry | hi all :) | 02:36 |
| infinity | Fabio : concordia is a SHARED MACHINE, dude. | 02:36 |
| BenC | infinity: do you have the hppa 9.13 abi files? | 02:37 |
| BenC | guess I can use the .12 ones | 02:37 |
| infinity | BenC : Unless something when horribly wrong, cp -a 12 13 | 02:37 |
| infinity | s/when/went/ | 02:37 |
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| infinity | I did that on the arches where 13 didn't build. | 02:37 |
| zul | heylo | 02:37 |
| infinity | (Actually, I did it for all arches, but diffed the ones that did build) | 02:37 |
| BenC | .12 only failed to build on amd64, correct? | 02:47 |
| BenC | or .13 I mean | 02:47 |
| infinity | Both, even. | 02:56 |
| infinity | For different reasons. | 02:56 |
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| BenC | there she blows | 02:58 |
| BenC | hopefully this isn't a total flop like .12 :) | 02:59 |
| infinity | And 13... | 02:59 |
| infinity | Flopping is fun. | 02:59 |
| BenC | it will be dep-wait for awhile though | 02:59 |
| BenC | atleast kernel-package is arch-indep, so it doesn't have to build everywhere :) | 02:59 |
| infinity | It's already uploaded. | 02:59 |
| infinity | Will be in the :03 cron.daily. | 03:00 |
| infinity | Which is when linux-source gets in. | 03:00 |
| infinity | So no dep-wait. | 03:00 |
| BenC | cool | 03:00 |
| zul | oi...how many kernels are you going upload this week? | 03:00 |
| infinity | 37. | 03:00 |
| infinity | Ish. | 03:00 |
| BenC | I've done more uploads today for ubuntu than I've done for Debian in the past 3 years | 03:00 |
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| zul | lol | 03:00 |
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| zul | *sigh* i need openswan or freeswan now | 03:01 |
| zul | freaking work.. | 03:02 |
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| infinity | BenC : Either I didn't push correctly, or you didn't pull my debian/rules changes... | 03:30 |
| infinity | Oh, or I'm looking at the log for -9.13 | 03:31 |
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| infinity | Christ, that scared me. | 03:31 |
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| zul | wheee...nagios you buggy pita | 05:05 |
| BenC | yay, git 1.0.0 released | 05:42 |
| zul | yahoo.. | 05:45 |
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| pappan | BenC: hi | 05:48 |
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| jbailey | And now for my next magic trick: Recovering my box now that it seems unwilling to load the USB keyboard drivers! | 05:56 |
| jbailey | Nope, it seems to be udev that's lost it. | 06:03 |
| jbailey | *sigh* | 06:03 |
| jbailey | No network card either. | 06:03 |
| BenC | is udev giving you an error? | 06:04 |
| BenC | somethng about get_message failing? | 06:04 |
| pappan | BenC: hi | 06:07 |
| BenC | hello | 06:07 |
| pappan | BenC: i am a newbie to kernel programming | 06:08 |
| jbailey | BenC: It's all hidden by usplash. | 06:08 |
| jbailey | BenC: I don't think I can turn that off from yaboot. | 06:08 |
| BenC | jbailey: debug might do ti | 06:09 |
| pappan | are there anything in the TODO list for which i may be eligible for | 06:09 |
| jbailey | BenC: 'kay, lemme try that. | 06:09 |
| jbailey | Right now it's sitting at an "X can't load" prompt. =) | 06:09 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 06:10 |
| BenC | pappan: most of the bug reports we have left are either waiting for more information (need to be verified against dapper flight2) or very complicated | 06:10 |
| jbailey | The other thing I could do is maybe use a recovery CD to force the network card to load so that I at least have ssh. | 06:10 |
| jbailey | BenC: Would that error go into a log file at all? | 06:10 |
| pappan | ok | 06:10 |
| BenC | jbailey: it should, I can't remember | 06:11 |
| BenC | for my sparc64 it failed to moun the rootfs because it didn't load sd_mod | 06:11 |
| BenC | I think maybe scsi is builtin on ppc though | 06:11 |
| jbailey | 'kay. I don't think debug will be enough to kill usplash. | 06:11 |
| jbailey | Oh, it's definetly making it as far as X almost loading. | 06:12 |
| jbailey | But the usual plug things: network, usb aren't getting loaded at all. | 06:12 |
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| lamont | so what abi files do we need for hppa, anyway? | 06:19 |
| fabbione | lamont: none.. we managed to get them bulded in 3 places :) | 06:20 |
| lamont | sigh | 06:20 |
| lamont | at any rate, the signing should be dealt with for linux-* | 06:20 |
| lamont | if we find more excess-length binary: lines, I'll have to add them to the workaround | 06:21 |
| fabbione | i think the kernel is the only left | 06:21 |
| fabbione | X is not monocrappic anymore | 06:21 |
| jbailey | lamont! I need your help sometime soon. =) | 06:27 |
| jbailey | BenC: 'kay. I hardcoded the network driver in /etc/modules so I can poke at the machine in any way that you care for me to. | 06:28 |
| lamont | jbailey: sup | 06:28 |
| lamont | ? | 06:28 |
| BenC | jbailey: sounds like a udev issue, so I suggest checking that first | 06:28 |
| jbailey | lamont: Can you point me to a good resource on ia64 asm coding? | 06:28 |
| BenC | jbailey: stop udevd and start it in debug mode | 06:29 |
| jbailey | BenC: I agree. I'll dig through there. | 06:29 |
| lamont | jbailey: I know they exist... I've been meaning to track me down a copy.... | 06:29 |
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| jbailey | lamont: There are some constructs that don't make any sense to me that appear to be loading a register with the contents of itself. | 06:29 |
| BenC | jbailey: maybe it is loading the registers with the contents of the memory where the register points to? | 06:32 |
| lamont | jbailey: Itanium Architecture for Programmers, by James S Evans and Gregory L Trimper | 06:32 |
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| jbailey | BenC: Entirely possible. I just hate guessing. =) | 06:32 |
| jbailey | lamont: Do you know if it's soft-copy available, or just DT format? | 06:33 |
| lamont | dunno | 06:33 |
| lamont | DT format? | 06:33 |
| jbailey | DeadTree | 06:33 |
| lamont | ah, ok | 06:33 |
| lamont | I imagine that digging around the intel and/or HP sites should uncover a few online docs on the subject, but I expect that much of the stuff is still someone's revenue generator, and therefore DT-only | 06:34 |
| jbailey | Mmm, yeah. | 06:35 |
| jbailey | Hmm, I could check safari, too. I had forgotten about that. | 06:35 |
| jbailey | Since I dont' imagine that the demand for people who can code ia64 asm is all *that* high, I'm not inclined to spend alot of money to just fix klibc. =) | 06:35 |
| lamont | "intel will send him the reference manuals for free | 06:36 |
| lamont | "lamont: or you can get PDFs from the website | 06:36 |
| jbailey | Ooo, do they still do that? | 06:36 |
| jbailey | COol. | 06:36 |
| lamont | apparenlty | 06:36 |
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| jbailey | lamont: Thanks. =) | 06:38 |
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| jbailey | Interesting. Something seems to be causing udevd to die. | 06:40 |
| jbailey | when I removed the /dev/.udev/queue directory, restarted udevd and reran udevplug, it all went fine. | 06:41 |
| jbailey | Given that my 'old' image is pointing to -8, which did work, I think it's not a kernel problem, but something got eaten in the power failure. | 06:42 |
| jbailey | Anyhow, will hack later. Need food and then have customers to call. | 06:43 |
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| fabbione | BenC: the diffstat is not difficult to get | 06:50 |
| zul | customers whats that? | 06:50 |
| BenC | fabbione: give me a few minutes | 06:54 |
| fabbione | yes | 06:54 |
| fabbione | i need to smoke and soon to stop | 06:54 |
| fabbione | it has been a way too long day | 06:54 |
| fabbione | oh | 06:55 |
| fabbione | there is a 4th point | 06:55 |
| fabbione | all of them are against breezy | 06:55 |
| fabbione | nobody reported against hoary/warty | 06:55 |
| fabbione | not that somebody is still using them.. but well | 06:55 |
| fabbione | BenC: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/diffstats | 07:10 |
| fabbione | from that diffstat is only missing the sparc fix from davem | 07:10 |
| fabbione | but that's sparc specific | 07:10 |
| fabbione | so it can't influence k7/k8 | 07:10 |
| fabbione | and 2 most intrusive patches have been backed out for testing | 07:11 |
| fabbione | one at a time.. so it might also be a combinantion | 07:11 |
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| fabbione | BenC: i will be back after dinner | 07:15 |
| fabbione | in an hour or two | 07:15 |
| BenC | ok | 07:15 |
| fabbione | i didn't spend 5 minutes with my wife all day | 07:15 |
| zul | she must be cranky | 07:17 |
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| jbailey | \o/ the asm link is now correct. =) | 07:51 |
| BenC | thank goodness | 07:52 |
| jbailey | HATE KBUILD | 07:54 |
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| jbailey | BenC: Do you know the people working on include/asm-powerpc? | 07:59 |
| jbailey | BenC: asm-powerpc/signal.h isn't usable for user application because types.h defines BITS_PER_WORD only ifdef KERNEL | 08:00 |
| jbailey | BenC: It looks like the simplest thing is to patch it to just define it as 32 or 64 depending on __powerpc64__ | 08:02 |
| jbailey | The other option is that I could get around to fixing lkh to Just Work with klibc. But that's a multi-day project. | 08:04 |
| fabbione | BenC: i just published 6 kernels on people | 08:08 |
| fabbione | each of them add one security patch on top of -9- | 08:09 |
| fabbione | i think that's the easiest | 08:09 |
| fabbione | 6 is basically -9.23 | 08:09 |
| fabbione | 1 is -10.24 minus one patch | 08:09 |
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| BenC | jbailey: if you have a patch to fix it up, I'll take it | 08:33 |
| BenC | fabbione: ok | 08:34 |
| jbailey | BenC: Well, if you know the people doing the work, it would be nice to ask them what they intend. But otherwise, I can punt you a patch that will work. | 08:35 |
| BenC | benh I suspect | 08:43 |
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| zul | laster | 10:21 |
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