[12:00] <libra> hellooooooooooooo
[12:00] <derick> IN TORONTO
[12:00] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/472382
[12:00] <SAM_theman> help!!
[12:00] <yatesy> Travis_: so how are you planning to do that? mount shares with the username + password entered in your gui, then umount them on logoff or something?
[12:00] <libra> derick TOTO
[12:00] <bshumate> Decarabia: if you are using php4 that is....that should install apache2 with php support for you
[12:00] <DarkMan> msg nickserv register darky469
[12:00] <trev89> hi.. is it possible to add a second drive to a system without having to lose the filesystem/files on the primary disk?
[12:00] <yatesy> Travis_: but keep say a single user account on the osx machine?
[12:01] <Travis_> yatesy yeah
[12:01] <Travis_> sort of
[12:01] <Travis_> I'm just kind of playing around right now
[12:01] <Travis_> seeing if its possible
[12:01] <Decarabia> bshumate  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[12:01] <yatesy> Travis_: nasty way of doing it :)
[12:01] <libra> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[12:01] <Travis_> how would I use except?
[12:01] <trappist> Travis_: why don't you see if something non-ridiculous is possible
[12:01] <_jason> Travis_, i didn't read the whole thing but it might be what you are looking for: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10929
[12:01] <topyli> SAM_theman: you are compiling a theme engine, but you haven't installed a compiler
[12:01] <bshumate> Decarabia:  you have some other package tool open? like Synaptic?
[12:02] <SAM_theman> were i get one?
[12:02] <Decarabia> bshumate ahh i c theres my update workin ^^
[12:02] <trappist> Travis_: mac osx works so well with ldap that you can specify the ldap server in your dhcpd and do 0 configuration on the mac
[12:02] <SAM_theman> E: Couldn't find package compiler
[12:02] <loorni> "on Linux, running the shell script "Endgame_Linux" will start the game." What does this mean?
[12:02] <Decarabia> bshumate but if i get php4. i will start it and then ?
[12:02] <SAM_theman> i did apt-get install compiler
[12:02] <topyli> SAM_theman: install build-essential
[12:02] <bshumate> Decarabia: yeah, when that finishes, try the apt-get again... then look at this too for more pointers on Apache / PHP
[12:02] <bshumate> !tell Decarabia about lamp
[12:03] <SAM_theman> thank you
[12:03] <yatesy> yea i agree with trappist, it would be so much easier to set up an LDAP server to do this
[12:03] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:03] <Agedec> when you press the delete key on files, do they delete or goto some sorta "trash bin" like windows or mac?
[12:03] <trev89> xampp is awesome
[12:03] <yatesy> and more flexible too
[12:03] <topyli> SAM_theman: happy hacking
[12:03] <trappist> easier and better
[12:03] <SAM_theman> thanks
[12:03] <cdubya> xampp?
[12:03] <SAM_theman> it what i do as a 15 year old :D
[12:03] <SAM_theman> *its
[12:03] <SAM_theman> shh
[12:03] <Stormx2> Agedec: If you are using nautilus, yes
[12:03] <trev89> cdubya it is a full lamp system in one install :)
[12:03] <cdubya> ah
[12:03] <cdubya> heh
[12:04] <cdubya> kewl
[12:04] <Agedec> ok
[12:04] <pppoe_dude> hi how can i get synaptic/apt to automatically always withhold a package from being upgraded??
[12:05] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: yeah
[12:05] <Decarabia> bshumate ok thx. i try
[12:05] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2, ?
[12:05] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: Select it, then from the package menu, select "hold"
[12:05] <ubuntu-new> hi how do  i install icq
[12:05] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: (in synaptic)
[12:05] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2, thanks
[12:05] <Stormx2> ubuntu-new: ICQ is included in GAIM i think
[12:05] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2, lock is better?
[12:06] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: Not sure, let me see
[12:06] <bshumate> Decarabia: good luck....you can do it!
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2, i have a lock version and a force version
[12:06] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: yeah sorry, Lock
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2, and that will remain forever right?
[12:06] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: Correct
[12:07] <SAM_theman> its compiling
[12:07] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: Well, it won't prompt you to update it anymore.
[12:07] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: What are you compiling?
[12:07] <SAM_theman> a them
[12:07] <SAM_theman> *theme
[12:07] <bshumate> pppoe_dude: <axl_rose>nothing lasts forever, and we both know hearts can change...</axl_rose>
[12:07] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: theme for what?
[12:07] <SAM_theman> A kde splash theme
[12:07] <conrad_> Amarok says: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[12:07] <conrad_> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'
[12:07] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2, Thanks that solved my problem.
[12:07] <SAM_theman> wtf!
[12:07] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: No prob
[12:08] <SAM_theman> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not
[12:08] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: So install Qt
[12:08] <conrad_> anyone know what an io-slave is??
[12:08] <Stormx2> conrad_: io is input output...
[12:08] <topyli> SAM_theman: yeah so you need the qt development package
[12:08] <Stormx2> conrad_: But no, I don;t
[12:08] <dooglus> I just saw this when trying to install lilo:
[12:08] <dooglus> Installing MBR on /dev/hda
[12:08] <dooglus> ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable.
[12:08] <conrad_> arrgh
[12:08] <dooglus> what should I do?
[12:08] <conrad_> what should i do?
[12:08] <Determinist> got this problem, i cant write changes to /usr/* . is there any way to open nautilus so i can actually modify things and not have to open a terminal to move files and settings around?
[12:08] <Stormx2> dooglus: Give up
[12:08] <SAM_theman> E: Couldn't find package Qt
[12:08] <yatesy> run
[12:08] <trev89> try grub instead
[12:08] <pppoe_dude> bye
[12:08] <conrad_> should i give up too?
[12:09] <Stormx2> dooglus: Install grub
[12:09] <yatesy> Determinist: use gksudo
[12:09] <dooglus> Stormx2: grub has never worked on this pc
[12:09] <conrad_> Stormx2: should i give up and run too? :#
[12:09] <jenda_zZz> Determinist: sudo nautilus
[12:09] <Stormx2> dooglus: Is there some kind of log?
[12:09] <Stormx2> dooglus: Of course, you can still boot a live CD
[12:09] <Stormx2> dooglus: Burn one now if you need to
[12:09] <Determinist> yatesy, of that i know, i want a permanent solution to this problem. a way for my user to be able to write changes to /usr/
[12:09] <conrad_> why won't my Amarok work, booohhoo
[12:09] <Stormx2> conrad_: Not sure. What is it for?
[12:09] <yatesy> chown, chmod?
[12:09] <bshumate> jenda_zZz: sudo nautilus?  what could possibly go wrong? ;-)
[12:10] <dooglus> Stormx2: I've tried booting from the breezy live CD but it won't boot.  neither will the install CD
[12:10] <dooglus> Stormx2: I think the old hoary one still works though.
[12:10] <topyli> SAM_theman: it's probably called libqt3-mt-dev
[12:10] <yatesy> wouldnt recommend it tho
[12:10] <conrad_> i want to load my mp3's
[12:10] <Stormx2> conrad_: What media player?
[12:10] <_jason> conrad_, what's wrong with amarok
[12:10] <topyli> SAM_theman: if you're going to build more kde stuff, you might as well install kde-devel
[12:10] <SAM_theman> here another problem i am having  http://pastebin.com/472397
[12:10] <conrad_> Amarok wont load up
[12:10] <SAM_theman> it pops up every sec i swear
[12:10] <jenda_zZz> bshumate: everything.... a little better than rm -rf
[12:10] <conrad_> says: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[12:10] <conrad_> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'.
[12:11] <conrad_> ???
[12:11] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: Give that file write permissions
[12:11] <SAM_theman> o ok
[12:11] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: or prefix the command you are using with sudo
[12:11] <Determinist> yatesy, has to be another more elegant solution tho :)
[12:11] <yatesy> yes, sudo :P
[12:12] <_jason> conrad_, you are running gnome right?
[12:12] <SAM_theman> i have like 40 things opened :D
[12:12] <Stormx2> SAM_theman: Me too man. I've had a bad few weeks.
[12:12] <conrad_> _jason: right
[12:12] <bshumate> jenda_zZz: you type in your sleep!
[12:12] <Determinist> yatesy, was thinking some sort of popup addition to nautilus to allow you to enter a dir as root when you right click it and click... whatever, then punch in the password. that has to be a good idea :)
[12:12] <jenda_zZz> bshumate: No, I sleep in my type.
[12:12] <_jason> conrad_, did you install from the repositories?
[12:12] <Determinist> yatesy, i find myself having to play around with permissions all too often with this system, that's just a no-good thing for me.
[12:13] <Stormx2> Determinist: You could write a script and assign it a hotkey to start nautilus as root in a directory of your choice. That would be about 3 lines
[12:13] <conrad_> i don't recall, it was that long ago
[12:13] <yatesy> Determinist: feel free to fork it and add your own modifications ;)
[12:13] <conrad_> i would have thought so
[12:13] <conrad_> used Synaptic more than likely to do so
[12:13] <slide> Im trying to install gaim2, im reading through the forum topic on upgrading but i dont find any deb for gaim-data, am i missing something? hehe
[12:13] <Determinist> yatesy, nahh, just a simple addition to nautilus should do :P
[12:13] <yatesy> Determinist: :P
[12:13] <Determinist> Stormx2, that could also work, thanks :)
[12:13] <Stormx2> Determinist: use zenity for a prompt box
[12:13] <SweetestSavage> What's the command to remove directories?
[12:13] <Determinist> Stormx2, was thinking just that mate
[12:14] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: rmdir
[12:14] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks
[12:14] <conrad_> _jason: thing is it doesn't like my mp3 disc; have taken it out and now it opens
[12:14] <Stormx2> SweetestSavage: but rm -rf works (use with care)
[12:14] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: root@kermit:/usr/src# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.15-rc5-ubuntu1_10.00.Custom_amd64.deb :)
[12:14] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: yay!
[12:14] <_jason> conrad_, ah, it probably tries to use some kde programs to access it
[12:14] <aurynn_u> wow, 650 people
[12:14] <Stormx2> 629?
[12:14] <topyli> Determinist: might as well make it a nautilus script so you can do the clicky-clicky-thing
[12:15] <sorush20> I've just tried to connect to freenode and now I'm on the gnu server could someone explain?
[12:15] <yatesy> sorush20: you succedded, this is freenode!
[12:15] <Determinist> topyli, wanna save me some googling and tell me where's a good place to start with writing a nautilus script then please?
[12:15] <_jason> conrad_, well, my advice would be to google that problem.  Or even contact the developers.  I've read that they are interested in having it work on more than just kde, they just like using the kde libraries.
[12:16] <Stormx2> Determinist: Try the nautilus website
[12:16] <topyli> Determinist: fine, i googled for you: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ :)
[12:16] <Stormx2> Determinist: Google is your friend - http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[12:16] <SAM_theman> thanks guys that icon stop poping up
[12:16] <Determinist> yeah, i just found that too lol
[12:16] <sorush20> how do I find out if my graphics card is working optimally?
[12:16] <conrad_> _jason: yeah, amarok even now as it opens doesn't in fact play anything for me
[12:17] <SAM_theman> your da' best
[12:17] <_jason> conrad_, does it complain or just no sound?
[12:17] <bshumate> do not fsck around with rms!  http://www.catb.org/~esr/geeks-with-guns/rms-eat-lead-software-hoarders.jpeg
[12:17] <SAM_theman> the qt thing finshed installing now i am install kde-devel
[12:17] <yanqi> hi
[12:17] <SweetestSavage> Ah.. new question.. how do I delete an entire folder even if it has contents in it?
[12:17] <conrad_> _jason: just no sound, BUt what i'm after is burning my mp3's unto cd as cd-format
[12:17] <batman> hello can someone help me to install kismet
[12:17] <SAM_theman> root contents
[12:18] <_jason> conrad_, burning idk, but make sure the correct sound output is selected, probably esd
[12:18] <conrad_> _jason: i can use k3b for this but the problem is i drag'n drop but then the cd wont eject!
[12:18] <yanqi> i'd like to know if someone know a special place where i could find the initrd file of flight-2 iso
[12:18] <yanqi> for kubuntu
[12:18] <conrad_> _jason: therefore i was trying to put the mp3 somewhere i can get k3b to fetch it from
[12:18] <SAM_theman> i am on it
[12:20] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know how to delete a folder with contents inside?
[12:20] <SAM_theman> guys how do i find out which version of Kde i have?
[12:20] <aurynn_u> hmm
[12:20] <cron0> Is there any channel for development releases discussion? (dapper)
[12:20] <aurynn_u> Ubuntu is nice. It's about 80% there.
[12:20] <topyli> SAM_theman: kde-devel brings in a lot of stuff but at least you'll have a sane build environment for kde stuff from now on
[12:20] <TokenBad> can someone tell me how to burn cdg with mp3 files?
[12:20] <SAM_theman> thanks my friend
[12:20] <conrad_> _jason: trying to extract the mp3's as to be able to drag 'n drop em in k3b with the blank cd ready to burn
[12:21] <Stormx2> cron0: try #ubuntu-dev
[12:21] <Decarabia> bshumate sorry for askin again. i installed apache2 und php4. but how to make my scripts run ?
[12:21] <Stormx2> cron0: Not sure though
[12:21] <topyli> cron0: #ubuntu-devel but it's NOT a help channel
[12:21] <conrad_> looks like once the process is started i can't get the cd out anymore
[12:21] <_jason> conrad_, not sure, I don't really burn any cd's
[12:21] <conrad_> ok
[12:21] <conrad_> thx, anyhow : )
[12:22] <SAM_theman> Good - your configure finished. Start make now
[12:22] <SAM_theman> :D
[12:22] <cron0> Anybody using dapper is having dependencies issues with libdbus?
[12:22] <SAM_theman> !!!!!!!!!!!!!hooah
[12:22] <ubotu> SAM_theman: What?
[12:23] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i install .deb fillez
[12:23] <Decarabia> does anybody know how to work wiith php4 ?
[12:23] <Decarabia> how can i make my scripts run ?
[12:23] <_jason> !deb
[12:23] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:24] <JaZyLNX> okay guys i have a drive /dev/sda1 in fstab just have defaults my question is can i change the owner or the drive to a user right now everything it given to root
[12:24] <Decarabia> does somebody know how to work wiith php4 ?
[12:25] <cmatheson_> JaZyLNX: is this your root filesystem? it should be owned by root
[12:25] <SAM_theman> GUYS it Worked!!!!
[12:25] <JaZyLNX> it's a usb external drive
[12:25] <SAM_theman> thanks you
[12:25] <dooglus> well that's strange - I rebooted and lilo is working just fine.  I wonder why it wrote that scary message?
[12:25] <bouffy_01> je ss nouvo ici et jessaye de joindre le reseau irc voila/wanadoo ki peu mexplike
[12:25] <JaZyLNX> /dev/sda1
[12:25] <dooglus> !anyone
[12:25] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:25] <bshumate> Decarabia: make a directory in /var/www/ e.g. "scripts" then start apache with : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:26] <SAM_theman> i know how to compile but the packages i need din't comp default
[12:26] <cmatheson_> JaZyLNX: add "user" to your /etc/fstab in the options category and make sure your user has permisisons to write to /dev/sda1 you may have to add him to the disk group or osmething
[12:26] <bouffy_01> erf c bon c tchi
[12:26] <bshumate> Decarabia: then try to point your browser to : http://127.0.0.1/scripts/script.php (or whatever your script is calle)
[12:26] <poningru> !gcj
[12:26] <ubotu> poningru: What?
[12:26] <TheFiend> I have a problem, I tried to install ubunto 5.10 over my windows installation and when my system restarted after the installation, it said there was no operating system found
[12:26] <poningru> your mom oooooh
[12:26] <dooglus> !fr
[12:26] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:26] <the_mr_bong_show> i tryed to install nero for linux and its a deb but it wont install it has an error
[12:26] <the_mr_bong_show> dpkg: error processing nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb (--install):
[12:26] <the_mr_bong_show>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[12:26] <the_mr_bong_show> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:26] <the_mr_bong_show>  nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb
[12:26] <bouffy_01> oki merci
[12:27] <bshumate> Decarabia: put your scripts in the "scripts" directory i mentioned earlier....forgot to add that part....that should allow you to use em
[12:27] <Decarabia> bshumate ok mom i ttry
[12:27] <bouffy_01> !fr
[12:27] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:27] <SAM_theman> ok i'm back
[12:27] <dooglus> the_mr_bong_show: give the full path to the .deb file, like this:  "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/nerolinux-2.0.0.4-x86.deb"
[12:28] <the_mr_bong_show> oh ok
[12:28] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[12:28] <dooglus> the_mr_bong_show: is that a free download?
[12:28] <_jason> SAM_theman, short-live success huh
[12:28] <the_mr_bong_show> yeah
[12:28] <the_mr_bong_show> i wil get the link hold on
[12:28] <SAM_theman> lol
[12:28] <_jason> SAM_theman, can I ask what you are compiling?
[12:29] <dooglus> the_mr_bong_show: it's ok I googled it
[12:29] <the_mr_bong_show> http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
[12:29] <dooglus> thanks
[12:29] <SAM_theman> was  a spash screen
[12:30] <Stormx2> I don't understand, how do I launch plugins from nautilus?
[12:31] <cdubya> Decarabia, you ever get it working?
[12:31] <Decarabia> i try
[12:31] <Decarabia> ^^
[12:32] <d03boy> is there an easy way to install the mplayer plugin into mizilla firefox?
[12:32] <d03boy> i tried installing th emozilla-plugin but that doesnt work
[12:32] <d03boy> it still uses totem for some reason
[12:32] <d03boy> totem is a piece of trash
[12:33] <tactical-golem> *wave*
[12:33] <dooglus> d03boy: install "mozilla-mplayer"
[12:33] <_jason> d03boy, emozilla-plugin, what is that?  did you try mozilla-mplayer?
[12:33] <Stormx2> *waves back*
[12:33] <Decarabia> bshumate (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[12:33] <Decarabia> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[12:33] <Decarabia> Unable to open logs
[12:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell d03boy about replacetotem
[12:33] <Decarabia> bshumate this is wat i get if i start apache2
[12:33] <tactical-golem> does anyone here use the D-Link DWL-G122 USB dongle?
[12:34] <cdubya> Decarabia, do you have apache already running?
[12:34] <bshumate> Decarabia: this means another instance of apache is already running probably
[12:34] <d03boy> thanks jason... i love you
[12:34] <Deathstarr> Do You Speak English?
[12:34] <Decarabia> bshumate hmmm well. but my scripts dont work
[12:35] <bshumate> Decarabia: what happens when you browse to http://127.0.0.1 ?
[12:35] <Decarabia> bshumate all i get is the downlaodmanager poppin up
[12:35] <Decarabia> bshumate mom
[12:35] <Deathstarr> Who knows ubuntu?
[12:35] <Deathstarr> really well?
[12:35] <alpunk> can anybody help me with my screen res?
[12:35] <Decarabia> bshumate Placeholder page
[12:35] <navarone> Deathstarr ask your question
[12:35] <_jason> Deathstarr, aska  question and you can find out
[12:36] <bshumate> Decarabia: aha...sounds like you need the script handlers for php in your apache.conf ... one mom
[12:36] <cdubya> Decarabia, is libphp4.so in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.load?
[12:36] <felipe_> I have a problem installing the jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, in the help menu it says I should do a fakeroot make -jpkg jdk... but I get: make: the `-j' option requires a positive integral argument
[12:36] <Red-Sox> Deathstarr: just ask, I am sure one of us will know
[12:36] <Deathstarr> Si ubuntu a good source for School , musicm web design, and surfing while on the same computer as Windows?
[12:36] <Red-Sox> Deathstarr: sure, dual boot
[12:36] <Decarabia> cdubya yes. i think so
[12:37] <_jason> Deathstarr, yes, I'd say so.  I don't even use windows anymore
[12:37] <dooglus> Deathstarr: surfing can be annoying.  there are lots of web pages which don't show up properly in ubuntu.
[12:37] <_jason> dooglus, ?
[12:37] <Red-Sox> Deathstarr: Why do you need windows?
[12:37] <Deathstarr> someone Said Something About useing Kubuntu?
[12:37] <iflipti> alpunk, have you checked in your device manager?
[12:37] <Decarabia> cdubya how can i find out. its workin or not ?
[12:37] <bshumate> Decarabia: you need to edit your /etc/apache2/apache.conf file with sudo
[12:37] <bshumate> Decarabia: find the line like this: #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[12:37] <Deathstarr> Red-Sox I need windows for the Family
[12:37] <bshumate> Decarabia: and uncomment it
[12:37] <Decarabia> k mom
[12:38] <dooglus> _jason: quite a few content types need plugins which are only available for windows
[12:38] <bshumate> Decarabia: also uncomment : #AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[12:38] <cdubya> Decarabia, what bshumate said....but just know that mine wreaked havoc with apache2 when I added the handlers in the conf file....
[12:38] <the_mr_bong_show> what does this mean Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux version testing/unstable
[12:38] <_jason> dooglus, ok
[12:38] <the_mr_bong_show> i tryed the nero
[12:38] <navarone> Deathstarr...you can install ubuntu on same drive as windows if there is space available or on a secondary drive
[12:38] <cdubya> it worked, though, when I commented it out and made sure I had php package installed....
[12:38] <Red-Sox> Deathstarr: ubuntu is family-friendly
[12:38] <alpunk> I need help fixing my screen resolution.....  I only have 640x480 to choose from and I want 1024x768
[12:38] <_jason> ubotu, tell alpunk about fixres
[12:38] <bshumate> Decarabia: restart apache : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 retstart and you should be good to go
[12:38] <Red-Sox> edubuntu
[12:38] <Red-Sox> oops
[12:39] <Red-Sox> !edubuntu
[12:39] <ubotu> methinks edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[12:39] <alpunk> iflipti, I sent you a message
[12:39] <bshumate> cdubya: they are already in there and just need to be uncommented ...php don't work without em...
[12:39] <alpunk> _ jason, I've tried all those things on the fixres thing
[12:39] <cdubya> bshumate, mine does.
[12:39] <cdubya> ;)
[12:40] <navarone> alpunk what vidcard you have?
[12:40] <Epix> i have a server. i can ssh into the server. i want to make it so that i can login to the server and then open a port, which will allow me to connect to another computer.
[12:40] <tactical-golem> sepaking of installing ubuntu
[12:40] <iflipti> alpunk, I think ubotu may be able to help you better there
[12:40] <yatesy> Epix: its called ssh tunnelling
[12:40] <tactical-golem> i was about to do that this morning
[12:40] <bshumate> cdubya: well yours is probably being added via an include or something...whatever
[12:40] <alpunk> navarone, to be honest, I don't know.  is there any way to check?
[12:40] <Epix> yatesy: but, i dont want to ssh into the other server, i want to VNC
[12:40] <cdubya> it is.
[12:40] <cdubya> ;)
[12:40] <iflipti> alpunk, I think ubotu may be able to help you better there
[12:41] <yatesy> Epix: doesn't matter, you can forward any port you like
[12:41] <Decarabia> bshumate aint workin :(
[12:41] <alpunk> navarone, I just switched to ubuntu yesterday
[12:41] <iflipti> ubotu, are you there?
[12:41] <ubotu> iflipti: What?
[12:41] <the_mr_bong_show> dooglus did you have a problem installing nero
[12:41] <cdubya> bshumate, which is why I said what I did....
[12:41] <iflipti> ubotu, are you there?
[12:41] <tactical-golem> how many partitions am i sposed to have, and what size
[12:41] <alpunk> iflipti, I tried that stuff already
[12:41] <tactical-golem> Root, home, and swap .. right?
[12:41] <iflipti> ubotu, are you there?
[12:41] <yatesy> iflipti: shut up
[12:41] <Epix> yatesy: how?
[12:41] <yatesy> Epix: read the manual
[12:42] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[12:42] <JaZyLNX> okay i got the scsi working right now my internal driver also used for extra space is owned  by root i wanna switch that to cjazinski as the other external one did.
[12:42] <JaZyLNX> using the same thing in fstab
[12:42] <cdubya> Decarabia, do you have these in your apache2.conf?
[12:42] <cdubya> Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load
[12:42] <cdubya> Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf
[12:42] <Epix> yatesy: what one
[12:43] <yatesy> Epix: the ssh one
[12:43] <JaZyLNX> /dev/hdb1  /media/Drive1  auto  rw,user,defaults                  0  0
[12:43] <iflipti> ubotu, please tell alpunk about fixres
[12:43] <ubotu> iflipti: Are you smoking crack?
[12:43] <iflipti> ubotu, please tell alpunk about fixres
[12:43] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[12:43] <Epix> and what is a good VNC flavor that is free
[12:43] <iflipti> ubotu, please tell alpunk about fixres
[12:43] <trev89> XREALVNC
[12:43] <Inf3ctedFx> Ppl I have a question, does anyone here knows a document or tutorial it show how to setup a dual head or monitor using ubuntu?  on gnome?
[12:43] <bshumate> Decarabia: ah yes, you don't need to uncomment the lines in apache.conf...they are included in the mods-available/php4.conf already
[12:43] <Decarabia> cdbubya yes, there in
[12:43] <yatesy> Epix: this might help, although its the commercial ssh: http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/Port_Forwarding.html
[12:44] <asonjay99> how do you remove a program
[12:44] <iflipti> sorry, my messages are lagging for some reason
[12:44] <cdubya> Decarabia, what's in your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.load file?
[12:44] <bshumate> Decarabia: you need to make a symlink.... in /etc/apache2
[12:44] <trev89> epix xvncviewer
[12:44] <bshumate> Decarabia: ln -s mods-available/php4.load ./php4-load
[12:44] <Epix> trev89: server...
[12:44] <navarone> alpunk are you in ubuntu now?
[12:44] <Decarabia> bshumate how too hadle this ?
[12:45] <bshumate> Decarabia: use the command i just posted from within the /etc/apache2 directory
[12:45] <iflipti> my text chat is lagging
[12:45] <trev89> epix vncserver funnily enough
[12:46] <Decarabia> bshumate sorry for stressin. but which command?
[12:46] <asonjay99> does anyone know oe to remove a program from my computer
[12:46] <iflipti> no!
[12:46] <Epix> trev89: is tightvnc any better?
[12:46] <bshumate> Decarabia: ln -s mods-available/php4.load ./php4-load
[12:46] <GTroy> asonjay99: use synaptic
[12:46] <iflipti> my messages won't come out!
[12:46] <Epix> asonjay99: type anything but rm -rf /
[12:46] <trev89> not by much tight is worse in some cases
[12:46] <iflipti> brb
[12:47] <yatesy> its all the same apart from compression algorithms
[12:47] <bshumate> Decarabia: then restart apache2 again
[12:47] <the_mr_bong_show> when i tryed to install nero it says Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux version testing/unstable
[12:47] <the_mr_bong_show>  isnt ubuntu debian bass
[12:47] <trev89> epix vncserver is on breezy
[12:47] <muhaha> i don't like linux any more
[12:47] <trev89> it is
[12:47] <GTroy> mr.bong: use gnomebaker instead
[12:47] <Epix> trev89: is vncserver even free?
[12:47] <trev89> bong they dont use the same packages though
[12:47] <trev89> epix yes
[12:47] <GTroy> there's not a nero version for ubuntu
[12:47] <muhaha> alway have a damn graphic-prob!
[12:48] <Decarabia> bshumate the same as before :(
[12:48] <trev89> gtroy you shouldnt need nero
[12:48] <clocktx> hello, could someone point me to where I can find the MD5 sums for the ISOs, please?
[12:48] <the_mr_bong_show> gnomebaker?
[12:48] <GTroy> trev89: is told mr. bong to use gnomebaker
[12:48] <Inf3ctedFx> anyone have an idea how to cofigure ubuntu to work with 2 video cards and use 2 monitors???
[12:48] <jenny_> hello
[12:48] <slide> Im trying to install gaim2, im reading through the forum topic on upgrading but i dont find any deb for gaim-data, am i missing something? hehe
[12:48] <jhenn> if im trying to share my internet through a direct connected ethernet do i need to use a crossover or a regular?
[12:48] <karlan_> where is my beep-media-player skins folder located?
[12:48] <karlan_> anyone?
[12:49] <trev89> gnomebaker.. hmm interesting
[12:49] <muhaha> hi! can someone tell me where i can find something to download over irc and how it works?
[12:49] <tactical-golem> *grumbles* damn Miranda IM
[12:49] <tactical-golem> How big should i set my root partition?
[12:49] <muhaha> i like miranda
[12:49] <tactical-golem> lol
[12:49] <tactical-golem> forsome reason i just got logged off IRC and yahoo
[12:49] <cdubya> cool. #26. http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120763,pg,12,00.asp
[12:49] <iflipti> sorry about sounding like a bot
[12:49] <tactical-golem> but MSN stayed online
[12:50] <muhaha> i don't like msn
[12:50] <_jason> tactical-golem, I have about 4 gigs used with a lot of stuff installed if that helps
[12:50] <muhaha> i just use icq and irc
[12:50] <picasso> whats the best way to switch my default browser to ff 1.5
[12:50] <muhaha> i also just have 4 or 5 gig home.
[12:50] <picasso> (and install it)
[12:51] <picasso> any way to use packages, or just download binaries and keep separate?
[12:51] <muhaha> i hate installing at linux
[12:51] <tactical-golem> i dont like MSN either
[12:51] <trev89> picasso if you have ff1.0 or whatever you should be able to install ff 1.5 just like an extension
[12:51] <tactical-golem> but one of my friends ONLY has it
[12:51] <Decarabia> cdubya LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so
[12:51] <picasso> trev89: install through firefox?
[12:52] <trev89> yep
[12:52] <picasso> it wont overwrite the old ff libs or anything?
[12:52] <trev89> updater should take care of it
[12:52] <cdubya> Decarabia, k. Where do you have the scripts?
[12:52] <picasso> i thought there was a reason ubuntu doesnt include 1.5?
[12:52] <alpunk> thanks everyone who helped on the screen resolution problem
[12:52] <Decarabia> cdubya the scripts in /var/www/scripts
[12:52] <muhaha> i also have screen problem
[12:52] <_jason> picasso, there is, if you really want it there is a wiki page that shows you how to do it without breaking your system
[12:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell picasso about firefox15
[12:53] <muhaha> but noone can handle it
[12:53] <picasso> gracias
[12:53] <trev89> muhaha there are good programs for tracking installations and you shouldnt need to install 3rd party stuff anyway ;)
[12:53] <picasso> thats what i was looking for
[12:53] <cfh_dev> I just install dapper.  It asked for a password but didn't ask for a username.
[12:53] <_jason> picasso, make sure you understand what each command does before you just copy and paste
[12:53] <alpunk> I need a good RPM program.  where can I find one.
[12:53] <cdubya> Decarabia, and you installed php, right?
[12:54] <trev89> i need to remember the build-install helper program name. it is awesome
[12:54] <Decarabia> cdubya php4
[12:54] <muhaha> trev89: thats not the problem! i just have graphic-probs
[12:54] <trev89> muhaha whats the problem
[12:54] <cfh_dev> What username can I use if the install didn't ask for one?
[12:54] <trev89> exactly
[12:54] <cdubya> Decarabia, you want to pm me and we can try to work on it?
[12:54] <cfh_dev> Can I login as root?
[12:55] <Decarabia> cdubya i can if u want
[12:55] <hellraiser> hey ppl
[12:55] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev: no you cant
[12:55] <SAM_theman> omg GUYS!!
[12:55] <cfh_dev> hypernewbie: If the installer didn't ask for a username, what can I use?
[12:55] <cdubya> Decarabia, sure
[12:55] <muhaha> trev89: i always have graphic-problems with the standard-driver. strange colours and so.
[12:55] <SAM_theman> i am compiling a whole bunch of things right..
[12:55] <Decarabia> cdubya does it work, can u read my pm ?
[12:55] <SAM_theman> then i see it Kcompile
[12:55] <alpunk> anyone know where I can get a .rpm program?
[12:55] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev: it should have, definitely
[12:55] <SAM_theman> amomatic compiler :D
[12:55] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev: i derno, try root
[12:56] <Decarabia> bshumate can u read me pm ?
[12:56] <SAM_theman> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30223
[12:56] <cfh_dev> hypernewbie: what's the default password for root?
[12:56] <bshumate> Decarabia: nope
[12:56] <cdubya> Decarabia, nope
[12:56] <muhaha> trev89: when i install the nvidia driver i don't get a signal to my tft after the boot-sequence
[12:56] <dooglus> cfh_dev: the root password is locked by default
[12:56] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev: try nothing
[12:56] <hellraiser> anyone know of a torrent downloader like (bitlord) for linux?
[12:56] <bshumate> Decarabia: maybe something is wrong with your scripts?  try making a file in /var/www/scripts called "p.php" then in that file, put this : <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[12:56] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev: but yeah i think its locked
[12:56] <Decarabia> bshumate , cdubya, damn
[12:56] <muhaha> trev89: you know what i mean?
[12:56] <mrkoje> cfh_dev,  There isn't a default password for root. You use sudo by default.
[12:56] <bshumate> Decarabia: save the file, and then browse to : http://127.0.0.1/scripts/p.php
[12:56] <bshumate> Decarabia: what do you get then?
[12:56] <zorth> hi there. Is there any tool to discover a password in a zip file?
[12:57] <trev89> yeah but i cant help you :(((
[12:57] <mrkoje> cfh_dev,  and thats the same password you set up in installation
[12:57] <dooglus> hellraiser: azureus is about the best for linuc
[12:57] <cfh_dev> mrkoje: the problem is that the installer didn't have me specify a user so I'm trying to figure out how to get into my system to set one up
[12:57] <hellraiser> thx dooglus : )
[12:57] <mrkoje> cfh_dev,  odd.
[12:57] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev:re-install lol
[12:57] <dooglus> cfh_dev: the installer should have asked you for a username
[12:57] <muhaha> muhaha
[12:58] <muhaha> KINDER KINDER IHR SEID RINDER, AUSSER MIR, ICH BIN DER STIER
[12:58] <Decarabia> bshumate my downloadmanager piopsup again
[12:58] <mrkoje> cfh_dev,  the installer just doesn't decided to not work ... the code is the code and I assure you its there :)
[12:58] <cfh_dev> dooglus: that's what I thought.  I stepped back into the menu of the install at one point and re-entered the usual process of things and it skipped over the username collection part
[12:58] <dooglus> cfh_dev: what you can do is boot from the install CD, then press control-alt-F2 to get to a shell prompt.  mount your hard disk and use "adduser" to create a user
[12:58] <dnB> hiya, is there any easy way to get the gaim beta, and have it replace the apt installed gaim?
[12:58] <Decarabia> muhaha klar ^^
[12:58] <cfh_dev> dooglus: thank you
[12:58] <dooglus> cfh_dev: probably.  it's what I've heard.  worth a try...
[12:58] <jhenn> i followed these instructions http://pastebin.com/472451 and i was wondering do i setup the bsd box for dhcp or do i manually input all the info?
[12:58] <muhaha> DO CHECKTS EH "FAST" KANA
[12:58] <zorth> anybody know how to discover a encripted passord in a zip file?
[12:59] <Decarabia> bshumate and asks me to open or download the php-file
[12:59] <hypernewbie> cfh_dev: probably dont work, im guessing. i would re-install
[12:59] <cfh_dev> mrkoje: I agree that software doesn't decide to not work but this could be pointing at a bug
[12:59] <mrkoje> cfh_dev,  maybe :)
[12:59] <muhaha> najo. i moch mi vom acker
[12:59] <tactical-golem> how big should my root partition be?
[12:59] <bshumate> Decarabia: weird buddy...i installed the same way, and mine works fine.  you sure you restarted apache2?
[12:59] <dooglus> hypernewbie: you could try fcrackzip
[12:59] <cfh_dev> mrkoje: I'm pretty sure I can recreate it with a high degree of certainty.  I'll try to pull out another system and recreate it.
[12:59] <dooglus> sorry - that was for zorth
[12:59] <cdubya> yeah, that's what I was thinking, bshumate....
[12:59] <Decarabia> bshumate well im pretty sure. but i try again
[12:59] <felipe_> I need help making a deb out of the java bin. here's what im typing:  fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, and I get the following error /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found, help please
[12:59] <hypernewbie> hehe
[01:00] <mrkoje> cfh_dev,  if you do.. be sure to submit it..
[01:00] <Decarabia> bshumate /etc/init.d7apache2 restart ?
[01:00] <dooglus> felipe_: install package 'java-package' first
[01:00] <Decarabia> bshumate /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ?
[01:00] <cfh_dev> mrkoje: certainly.  Ubuntu has been good to me and I'd like to return the same  ;)
[01:00] <tactical-golem> :(
[01:01] <bshumate> Decarabia: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart      yes.
[01:01] <felipe_> dooglus, I have the blackdown java already intalled
[01:01] <dooglus> felipe_: that's irrelevant
[01:01] <Decarabia> bshumate yes. i did it. i did the restart. it aint workin :(
[01:01] <zorth> thankx
[01:01] <felipe_> dooglus, Oh
[01:01] <zorth> thank you
[01:01] <hypernewbie> anyone know how to get mp3 player in ubuntu?
[01:01] <dooglus> felipe_: java-package is a package which turns sun's .bin into a debian package
[01:01] <hypernewbie> i'm currently using mpg123 and its sh*t
[01:02] <bshumate> Decarabia: bummer!  can you make a plain HTML page in /var/www/scripts and see if that loads?
[01:02] <Decarabia> bshumate ok itry
[01:02] <felipe_> dooglus, Ahhhhh!
[01:02] <bshumate> !beer
[01:02] <bshumate> !hooker
[01:02] <ubotu> bshumate: Not a clue
[01:02] <dooglus> felipe_: what are you doing?
[01:03] <dooglus> felipe_: I've told you before about trying to have cybersex with me in public
[01:03] <dnB> hypernewbie, xmms?
[01:03] <felipe_> dooglus, updating the java, since I cant get to open visual classes in eclipse
[01:03] <hypernewbie> dnB: wont install
[01:03] <dooglus> felipe_: whatever turns you on
[01:03] <dnB> hypernewbie, why not?
[01:03] <hypernewbie> dnB: a lot of version incompats
[01:03] <Decarabia> bshumate it works. the html gets loaded
[01:04] <dnB> hypernewbie, beep media player?
[01:04] <felipe_> dooglus, no cybersex thanx
[01:04] <hypernewbie> dnB: hmm..leme check that out never heard
[01:05] <cdubya> Decarabia, I had a fit with that same thing....I ended up having to comment out the AddType lines in apache2.conf so that it would work.....
[01:06] <Decarabia> ok i try
[01:06] <cdubya> Decarabia, it's just a thought.....
[01:06] <oxez> Decarabia: did you install libapache(version)-mod-php(version_
[01:06] <oxez> Decarabia: like: libapache2-mod-php5
[01:06] <Decarabia> exez i did
[01:06] <oxez> ok
[01:06] <Decarabia> oxez i did
[01:07] <cdubya> oxez, he's got php4 installed
[01:07] <bshumate> Decarabia: yeah the lines for addtype php should be commented again in /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[01:07] <cdubya> Decarabia, then restart apache
[01:07] <cdubya> again.
[01:07] <cdubya> heh
[01:08] <bshumate> Decarabia: if that still doesn't get it, consider doing : sudo apt-get --reinstall install php4
[01:09] <ElitePete> mOUTH full OF gOLd dON'T mAKE yOU nO g
[01:10] <Decarabia> bshumate but isnt it /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[01:10] <cdubya> Decarabia, yes
[01:10] <bshumate> ElitePete: but if conquistadors approach you and ask you where the gold is, you should say "I swallowed it...so sue me"
[01:10] <mrkoje> \me feels sorry for hypernewbie
[01:10] <Toba> wtf...
[01:10] <Toba> why did java get downgraded in 5.10
[01:10] <bshumate> Decarabia: yap
[01:11] <Toba> I needed java 5.0
[01:11] <_jason> hypernewbie, sell it to a museum
[01:11] <ElitePete> bshumate, i'm high as hell sonnn
[01:11] <Decarabia> bshumate ok. i just thought may i made a mistake
[01:11] <Decarabia> bshumate ok i reinstalled it
[01:11] <bshumate> ElitePete: which is traditionally down low....and does not compute. chief.
[01:11] <Decarabia> bshumate but nothing changed
[01:12] <ElitePete> bshumate, stop tryin to talk smart sonn
[01:12] <cdubya> heh
[01:12] <norki> can i play kde games when i'm using gnome?
[01:12] <MasterTsunami> yes
[01:12] <JFlash> what is a nice software to search and download music in Ubuntu?
[01:13] <bshumate> Decarabia: try to reinstall :  sudo apt-get --reinstall install php4
[01:13] <Decarabia> bshumate i did
[01:13] <nlfsoftware> hello alll
[01:13] <bshumate> Decarabia: bummer....it is probably ElitePete's fault
[01:13] <nlfsoftware> any one know about a tutorial to install Sun's Studio11 on ubuntu?
[01:14] <ElitePete> bshumate, nigga what?
[01:14] <Decarabia> ^^
[01:14] <cdubya> Decarabia, you commented out the AddType lines?
[01:14] <Decarabia> but so what to do ? :(
[01:14] <Decarabia> cdbuya yes i did
[01:15] <Decarabia> cdubya yes i did
[01:15] <bshumate> ElitePete: learn some manners.
[01:15] <cdubya> Decarabia, and every time you try to load a php file it tries to download it?
[01:15] <Decarabia> yes
[01:15] <ElitePete> bshumate, suck me off
[01:15] <bshumate> ElitePete: i feel sorry for your parents.
[01:15] <JFlash> what is a nice software to search and download music in Ubuntu?
[01:15] <karlan_> how can i configure so that i have the menu at the bottom like this image? http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/24840-1.jpg
[01:15] <jakobbg> I want to install Ubuntu on a laptop without CDrom, but with network and floppy. Is this possible in Breezy?
[01:16] <cdubya> Decarabia, can I pm you?
[01:16] <Agedec> hey uh how do i add packeges on my hd onto my package manager
[01:16] <Agedec> into*
[01:16] <bshumate> cdubya: i don't think his nick is registered / can't pm
[01:16] <Decarabia> cdubya of course u can
[01:16] <cdubya> bshumate, k
[01:17] <Agedec> anyone know?
[01:17] <BoukenPink> Hey all... Just curious, if I make a package with checkinstall, can I give that to other people (with the same system architecture)?
[01:17] <bimberi> Agedec: do you have .deb files?  you can install those with dpkg -i file.deb
[01:17] <norki> anyone know how i can launch MP3 files from the file browser, and launch them in XMMS?
[01:17] <Toba> I WANT JAVA 1.5 DAMNIT
[01:17] <bimberi> Agedec: er, sudo dpkg...
[01:17] <_jason> Toba, ...
[01:17] <Decarabia> cdubya yes im not registered
[01:17] <_jason> ubotu, tell Toba about javadebs
[01:17] <Toba> _jason: what?
[01:17] <bimberi> !java
[01:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:17] <Agedec> i was wondering if there was a way besides cmd line lol
[01:18] <cdubya> Decarabia, k
[01:18] <Toba> yeah, i'm working on that right now _jason
[01:18] <bshumate> Decarabia: you have to register your nick to pm w/ others
[01:18] <Toba> but I already did it once under 5.04
[01:18] <Toba> and it went and blew it away for some reason
[01:18] <Toba> :/
[01:18] <bimberi> Agedec: hm, good question :)
[01:18] <_jason> Toba, what do you mean blew away
[01:18] <Toba> well
[01:18] <Decarabia> bshumate ok i will do it
[01:18] <Toba> java -version showed 5.0 before
[01:18] <Toba> now 4.0
[01:18] <JFlash> my internet provider says i have to type this command in terminal evrytime i log in to linux so i can reach the internet  >>>>  ip route add 192.168.XXX.X/XX via XXX.XXX.XXX.X
[01:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell Toba about multijava
[01:18] <_jason> Toba, check that
[01:18] <JFlash> how do I manage to add it to my system so i wont have to do it all over each time?
[01:19] <Toba> thx
[01:19] <Agedec> how do you use ubotu...?
[01:19] <Toba> muchas gracias
[01:19] <_jason> ubotu, tell Agedec about yourself
[01:19] <Toba> :D
[01:19] <[NetSkier> JFlash, Edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:20] <Agedec> hey thanks lol
[01:20] <[NetSkier> I just did that.
[01:20] <bimberi> Agedec: Unfortunately I don't think you can - i recall words like "coming in dapper" :|
[01:20] <JFlash> [NetSkier,  how do i get there? is there a software i can run?
[01:21] <norki> oi anyone know if there's an msn client for ubuntu that supports user pics and custom emoticons? :)
[01:22] <stianh> Anyone got suggestions for a cool desktop thingie to try? I've gotten bored with gnome/kde/xfce :P I need something refreshing :)
[01:22] <bur[n] e2> norki: gaim
[01:22] <_jason> Agedec, what packages are you referring to
[01:22] <norki> bur[n] e2: does the one packaged with ubuntu support that?
[01:22] <norki> or do i need a newer ver?
[01:22] <bur[n] e2> norki: yes, it does
[01:23] <norki> great, thanks
[01:23] <[NetSkier> JFlash, I will paste you my file foryou to modify.  I queried you.
[01:23] <dooglus> JFlash: "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" will do it
[01:23] <_jason> norki, afaik gaim does not have user pics
[01:23] <norki> dohness
[01:23] <_jason> bur[n] e1, how can I use user pics on gaim?
[01:23] <bur[n] e2> gaim has buddy icons
[01:23] <bur[n] e2> is that not it?
[01:23] <norki> i'm talking about the msn protocol
[01:23] <bur[n] e2> yeah
[01:23] <_jason> bur[n] e1, I thought norki meant like putting a picture of my friend associated with a screen name
[01:23] <JFlash> [NetSkier,  i managed to get to it by using  system tools > run as a diferent user > nautilus
[01:24] <JFlash> [NetSkier,  thank you!
[01:24] <bur[n] e2> i thought you meant where you put your own image for other people to see as you
[01:24] <norki> _jason: no they set the pic themselves
[01:24] <norki> i just wanna be able to see it
[01:24] <bur[n] e2> norki: gaim can
[01:24] <norki> i'll check it out
[01:24] <_jason> norki, oh ok then I know it works with the aim protocol
[01:24] <bur[n] e2> norki: try it already ;)
[01:24] <{alejandro}> JFlash, you can also use gksudo from the command line instead of the "run as a different user" prog
[01:24] <norki> :D
[01:24] <bur[n] e2> it works with msn too
[01:24] <JFlash> yes  but now how do i add that to the network file?
[01:25] <JFlash> i need to add this :   ip route add 192.168.XXX.X/XX via XXX.XXX.XXX.X
[01:25] <[NetSkier> JFlash, Look for a new tab I opened up in your IRC client.  Should have my NICK in it.
[01:25] <[NetSkier> JFlash,  I have this automated; Let me send you my file to examine.
[01:26] <JFlash> it's weird i dont see the tab
[01:26] <JFlash> hold on i will query you
[01:26] <[NetSkier> ok
[01:26] <bimberi> [NetSkier: you have to (registered and) identified to /msg
[01:26] <bimberi> *to be
[01:27] <[NetSkier> bimberi, I have been registered for years.
[01:27] <[NetSkier> oh wait.
[01:27] <bimberi> [NetSkier: and identified
[01:27] <JFlash> [NetSkier, i have msged you  :(
[01:28] <[NetSkier> Let me change to my REGISTERED nick.  sorry
[01:28] <JFlash> must i have a reg nick too?
[01:29] <freakazoid3333> reset by beer?
[01:29] <JFlash> lol
[01:29] <norki> hm yeah Gaim msn user pics work. but not custom emoticons
[01:29] <Decarabia> ^^
[01:29] <Decarabia> sometimes it happens ^^
[01:29] <bimberi> JFlash: you might.  Maybe if you both /join your own channel it will be easier (eg. /join #jflash)
[01:29] <Talisker> Can anyone plz tell me the syntax for telling at to run xmms at 0200?
[01:30] <JFlash> yea good idea
[01:30] <[NetSkier> agreed
[01:30] <JFlash> well it wont let me create a chan
[01:30] <JFlash> says chan does not exist
[01:30] <markive> hey
[01:30] <Locote> I can control the sound level with XMMS and Beep, what can I do?
[01:31] <bimberi> JFlash: try now
[01:31] <markive> anyone know about the truemobile 1450 mini pci wireless card?
[01:31] <Locote> I cant*
[01:31] <JFlash> no luck
[01:31] <JFlash> no donnut for me
[01:32] <[NetSkier> JFlash, Did you remember the # sign?
[01:32] <stianh> you get doghnuts for using the # sign?
[01:32] <stianh> omg
[01:32] <freakazoid3333> lol
[01:32] <bimberi> lol
[01:33] <markive> :O
[01:33] <[NetSkier> JFlash, no thanks;  I am a wimp about that.
[01:33] <JFlash> hhehe, the channel where evrything can happen. wow!
[01:33] <iflipti> markive:  I'm also trying to get a PCMCIA card to work.
[01:33] <SAM_theman> brb
[01:34] <stianh> anyone tried enlightenment dr17?
[01:34] <JFlash> [NetSkier,   oh well man i just need that answer so create anything that please you and it's ok for me
[01:34] <markive> iflipti mt 1450 card is a internal pci card in my d600
[01:34] <iflipti> markive: does the card show up in your device manager?
[01:34] <JFlash>   .  #i-wanna-remain-macho is ok with me
[01:34] <[NetSkier> JFlash, I am waiting for you in #jflash
[01:35] <JFlash> wow, #jflash?  that sounds even more gay then gay-singles
[01:35] <JFlash> lol
[01:35] <MoonRanger> how do you install a .deb file
[01:35] <ElitePete> young money cash money your money my momy
[01:35] <markive> iflipti yeah it all looks like its there and working  , just can't see any wifi devics or networks
[01:35] <stianh> hmm, norway and norwegian should have a different countrycode then "NO"
[01:35] <stianh> when installing locales it goes "NO NO NO NO NO"
[01:35] <bimberi> !deb
[01:35] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:35] <[NetSkier> MoonRanger, dpkg -i  filenmame.deb
[01:36] <MoonRanger> thanks
[01:36] <Xenguy> OK this is starting to piss me off -- can anyone tell me why the following query does not display a list of all installed packages: dpkg -l * |less
[01:36] <LunisTarballds> lillehammer forever!
[01:36] <Xenguy> ?
[01:36] <stianh> haha
[01:36] <apokryphos> Xenguy: drop the wildcard
[01:36] <stianh> i've never been to lillehammer :P
[01:36] <LunisTarballds> Xenguy: just do dpkg -l | less
[01:36] <norki> stianh: norway's country code is NO
[01:36] <Xenguy> apokryphos: really?  any idea why (it works fine for years on debian) ?
[01:37] <norki> or just N?
[01:37] <iflipti> markive: That's odd.  I have the same trouble.  The card shows up in the device manager, and the network connection even says that it's receiving packets (ping packets I assume), but no Internet or any other network stuff
[01:37] <alpunk> I need to know how to open a .RPM file.
[01:37] <stianh> norki: yes, I know, they should change it, I don't like my console going NO all the time when installing locales
[01:37] <Xenguy> apokryphos: hrm, maybe not that exact query...
[01:37] <apokryphos> Xenguy: I'd be surprised if it did... dpkg -l is the command to generate the whole list. A wildcard there would just be obsolete
[01:37] <norki> heh
[01:37] <kjsdf> What is the 'live' iso for? do I just need the install iso if im installing to an HD?
[01:37] <LunisTarballds> alpunk : use alien to convert it to a .deb
[01:37] <Xenguy> apokryphos: nod - OK, thanks for that
[01:37] <iflipti> markive, I'm going to search a bit more...
[01:38] <norki> i couldn't bare the norwegian translation, so i just changed it to english
[01:38] <markive> iflipti mine looks like it not recieving anything
[01:38] <alpunk> lunisTarballds, where do I get alien?  I just started with linux yesterday
[01:38] <TokenBad> I am trying to burn karaoke cd and tried to use cdrdao to do it..but get error...any other way to burn it?
[01:38] <markive> ubuntu hates it aswell
[01:38] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: sudo apt-get install alien
[01:38] <markive> iflipti you got that running in linux?
[01:38] <LunisTarballds> alpunk from a terminal prompt
[01:38] <stianh> norki: yeah, I know, I mean, first off someone decided that daemon should be "nisse"
[01:38] <mdke> how can I see what port something is listening on?
[01:38] <stianh> that's just crazy
[01:39] <alpunk> lunistarballsds, then I run that program and convert it to .des
[01:39] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: then man alien and so on...in linux you need to read alot, unlike windows where it is a lot of looking at pictures.
[01:39] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: man is your new best friend! :-)
[01:39] <xangel36> hahah thas true windows=dumb people
[01:40] <Xenguy> mdke: netstat or lsof
[01:40] <LunisTarballds> SAM_theman: CEO of the channel is here! ;-)
[01:40] <SAM_theman> :D
[01:40] <SAM_theman> lol i was kidding
[01:40] <LunisTarballds> mdke: netstat -a | less
[01:40] <apokryphos> mdke: example usage: netstat -naptu
[01:41] <alpunk> lunistarballds, huh?  man is my new best friend?
[01:41] <_jason> alpunk, man man
[01:41] <SAM_theman> :D
[01:41] <stianh> alpunk, yes, man man
[01:41] <iflipti> markive, no, I'm on another computer with a linux box right next to it
[01:41] <mdke> Xenguy, apokryphos, LunisTarballds trying
[01:41] <LunisTarballds> alpunk : yeah, man(1) as in the command homey!
[01:41] <markive> you got it working in xp?
[01:41] <mdke> apokryphos, ah that looks good, thanks
[01:42] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: don't let anyone convince you that a dog is your best friend in linux
[01:42] <kjsdf> What is the 'live' iso for? do I just need the 'install' iso if im installing to an HD?
[01:42] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone know where ubuntu mounts it's samba share when it connects to a network samba server?
[01:42] <alpunk> lol, okay, what is this man command you talk of
[01:42] <LunisTarballds> kjsdf: live is a full system that runs from the cdrom
[01:42] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/472498
[01:42] <SAM_theman> Help!!!
[01:42] <kjsdf> ah, k, thanks
[01:42] <stianh> :P
[01:42] <alpunk> I'm a newbie, I'm sorry
[01:42] <LunisTarballds> kjsdf: like for testing, evaluating, and playing with...it is good to give to friends and relatives too to further the ubuntu world domination goals
[01:42] <iflipti> markive: no, the other computer is a mac connected via 802.11g wireless.  The linux box has a PCMCIA card plugged into it, and I'm trying to get that to work
[01:42] <alpunk> :(
[01:43] <stianh> LunisTarballds, why not, just link dog to man ;)
[01:43] <Xenguy> alpunk: man == manual
[01:43] <kjsdf> heh, k
[01:43] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: don't be sorry...everyone had to start somewhere
[01:43] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: you cannot yodel right away...you have to build to it
[01:43] <markive> iflipti i wish i'd never had bought it  , it was an upgrade i saw on ebay , i had the intel proset 2100 and that worked wicked
[01:43] <kakei>  hey the image of k7 kernel allow u to use 386.deb 586.deb and 686.deb files?
[01:43] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone know where ubuntu mounts it's samba share when it connects to a network samba server?
[01:44] <markive> gon na change it  , brb
[01:44] <mdke> does dovecot hide magic error messages somewhere weird?
[01:44] <alpunk> aww, long day at work, lol.
[01:44] <mdke> where does it tell me why it's not working?
[01:44] <LunisTarballds> mdke: what on buddhas's green earth is dovecat?
[01:44] <mdke> LunisTarballds, *cot, it is a mail delivery agent
[01:45] <alpunk> lunistarballds, i ran the command in the terminal you told me about and now how do I run alien?  I sound so dumb right now
[01:45] <LunisTarballds> mdke: doh!
[01:45] <Lokadin> say how do i install .dev packages/
[01:45] <Lokadin> ?
[01:45] <Lokadin> .deb
[01:45] <mdke> Lokadin, dpkg -i
[01:45] <ElitePete> Lokadin, dpkg -i
[01:45] <Lokadin> thanks :D
[01:45] <LunisTarballds> alpunk: something like "alien crappy.rpm" ?
[01:45] <ElitePete> lol mdke,
[01:45] <stianh> a command for grabbing a screenshot anyone?
[01:45] <Xenguy> stianh: scrot
[01:46] <alpunk> lunistarballds, so I just run that in the terminal?
[01:46] <ElitePete> stianh, also just go to system > take screenshot
[01:46] <stianh> ElitePete, no, i am testing out e17
[01:46] <LunisTarballds> yeah...but substitute the "crappy.rpm" for the real name of your rpm...?
[01:46] <Xenguy> stianh: or that, or -> import -pause 3 -window root /tmp/screenshot.jpg
[01:46] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone know where ubuntu mounts it's samba share when it connects to a network samba server?
[01:46] <Xenguy> :P
[01:46] <ElitePete> stianh, oh ok
[01:46] <xangel36> lokadin alien -d then alien -i
[01:47] <stianh> Xenguy, hmm, I have neither import nor scrot :S
[01:47] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/472498
[01:47] <jvai> hey uall
[01:47] <SAM_theman> Help!!!
[01:47] <xangel36> what do you need sam?
[01:47] <Xenguy> stianh: just use the GUI then (or install the package you want)
[01:47] <zarathaz> sup
[01:48] <alpunk> lunistarballds, it says I have run as root to convert, how do I do that
[01:48] <norki> anyone know if i can get my MP3 drive to show in my Computer folder?
[01:48] <stianh> Xenguy, can gnome-screenshot be paused?
[01:48] <stianh> and what's the package for import? :O
[01:48] <stianh> and it's not import :)
[01:48] <Xenguy> 19:46 < ElitePete> stianh, also just go to system > take screenshot
[01:48] <Xenguy> stianh: ^^^
[01:48] <norki> along with the floppy, dvd, and filesystem icons
[01:48] <stianh> Xenguy, look at my reply ;)
[01:48] <Kinection> hello, is there something like yakuake/kuake for gnome?
[01:48] <stianh> Xenguy, I am in enlightenment
[01:49] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone know where ubuntu mounts it's samba share when it connects to a network samba server?
[01:49] <Xenguy> stianh: dpkg -S import (else use apt-file search import)
[01:49] <stianh> so gnome menues are not present
[01:49] <Xenguy> stianh: to find the package a file is in
[01:49] <stianh> ah
[01:49] <foxiness> how know this program synce-software-manager
[01:49] <stianh> lol, there's no apt-file
[01:49] <Xenguy> stianh: or use synaptic :-)
[01:49] <stianh> that I can do :P
[01:50] <stianh> :P
[01:50] <norki> can someone direct me to the post on the forum that says how i enable downloading lots of other stuff with synaptic?
[01:50] <hypernewbie> norki: huh?
[01:50] <bimberi> !synaptic
[01:50] <bluefox83> hey, my freind just noticed he i smissing a ton of stuff like chmod, rm, and some other impotant stuff and he was also missing gcc, what packages does he need to get those?
[01:51] <ubotu> hmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:51] <stianh> or just frecking use gimop
[01:51] <stianh> gimp
[01:51] <Xenguy> bluefox83: build-essential for one
[01:51] <stianh> got like a-whole-lotta hits for import in synaptic :P
[01:51] <hypernewbie> bluefox83: synaptic
[01:51] <alpunk> lunistarballds, I ran the alien crappy.rpm thing and it says I need to run as root to convert, how do I do that?
[01:52] <{alejandro}> alpunk sudo alien crappy.rpm
[01:52] <hypernewbie> bluefox83: enable gcc or g++ package whichever one u want and it'll auto-enable the other ones u need
[01:52] <Xenguy> stianh: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search import |grep bin
[01:52] <{alejandro}> alpunk it will ask for your password
[01:52] <SAM_theman> brb
[01:53] <bimberi> bluefox83: btw chmod and rm are in the "coreutils" package
[01:53] <stianh> Xenguy, thanks :)
[01:53] <bluefox83> bimberi, ty
[01:53] <Xenguy> stianh: yw
[01:54] <hypernewbie> bluefox83: and gcc in the gcc package :)
[01:54] <bimberi> bluefox83: np :)
[01:54] <Aven> hey
[01:54] <Aven> how do I get jr3?
[01:54] <cafuego> In the gcc-4.0 package actually.
[01:54] <Aven> anyone know the list of urls to put on sources.list for all the breezy badger?
[01:54] <cafuego> bluefox83: If he's missing 'rm' though, he's got serious problems.
[01:55] <bluefox83> cafuego, i know :(
[01:55] <stianh> package containing import = imagemagick if anyone cared :P
[01:55] <bluefox83> cafuego, any idea where he can find rm?
[01:55] <rhayes> is it normal for KDE to be eating up 850MB of memory with non Xchat running?
[01:55] <cafuego> bluefox83: If rm is missing he shopuld 1) run a disk check. 2) possibly reinstall.
[01:55] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone know where ubuntu mounts it's samba share when it connects to a network samba server?
[01:56] <bluefox83> cafuego, this is linux, not windows...there should be a package with rm in it
[01:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell Aven about sources
[01:57] <cafuego> bluefox83: if such basic tools are missing, something has gone WRONG somewhere.
[01:57] <cafuego> bluefox83: Just reinstalling it doesn't address the original wrongness, it only fixes the symptom.
[01:58] <bluefox83> cafuego, we fixed it.
[01:58] <tman_ubuntu> Have I offended anyone here?
[01:58] <Hal9000> hello! i have hte 64 bit version of breezy, but lots of codecs are missing... im not able to listen to wma, mp3, and most videos... totem always says to install plugins, but i cant find any in the package manager...
[01:58] <transgress> you didn't offend me tman_ubuntu but i haven't been here
[01:58] <Hal9000> what do i need to do?
[01:58] <bimberi> tman_ubuntu: no, probably nobody knows :)
[01:58] <cafuego> Hal9000: Most of those essentially won't work on amd64.
[01:58] <cafuego> Hal9000: That's why my amd64 now runs i386.
[01:59] <tman_ubuntu> I guess no one is able to answer my question then?
[01:59] <_jason> tman_ubuntu, that's probably why no one answered, don't take it personally
[01:59] <bluefox83> tman_ubuntu, i don't use samba, so i don't know..sorry
[01:59] <tman_ubuntu> gotcha :-)
[01:59] <{alejandro}> tman_ubuntu what is the question
[01:59] <tman_ubuntu> Does anyone know where ubuntu mounts it's samba share when it connects to a network samba server?
[01:59] <{alejandro}> tman_ubuntu Nope.
[02:00] <cafuego> tman_ubuntu: It's not mounted by the OS, only in the gnome vfs layer. So only gnome-vfs enabled apps can access it.
[02:00] <{alejandro}> tman_ubuntu what desktop environment you using though
[02:00] <Locote> Is there a player like foobar2000 for Ubuntu?
[02:00] <Hal9000> cafuego: ok, i will switch too i guess... also because flash doesnt work either :P
[02:00] <tman_ubuntu> Ubuntu.
[02:00] <cafuego> Hal9000: Yep. and the java plugin
[02:00] <Hal9000> i have another question though... i finally got my tv tuner working by installing the 2.6.15 kernel (i compiled the sources of dapper), now tvtime scanned all the channels... but i can't hear any audio
[02:01] <{alejandro}> tman_ubuntu are you trying to access the share or put stuff up
[02:01] <Hal9000> the audio should be internal, in windows xp at least i get the audio over the PCM channel... doesnt seem to happen here
[02:01] <Hal9000> any suggestions?
[02:01] <tman_ubuntu> cafuego:  If I setup a mount point and manually mount it, then I can't write to the share.
[02:01] <Hal9000> i'm using the saa7134 module (philips tuner)
[02:01] <{alejandro}> Hal9000, you using alsa? I feel your hurt
[02:02] <dooglus> bluefox83: if he installed 'ubuntu-base' it would bring in all the essential base packages - and he'd get 'rm' back
[02:02] <Hal9000> {alejandro}: well... i guess so :) why
[02:02] <bluefox83> dooglus, ok
[02:02] <alpunk> can anyone help me with a P2P program for music and such?  I used to run limewire on windows but I'm having trouble using it on ubuntu
[02:02] <cafuego> tman_ubuntu: You need the correct samba user/pass options then.
[02:02] <{alejandro}> Hal9000 I have just been having hell trying to get ALSA to work
[02:03] <Hal9000> my sound card works fine... its just the audio from the tv tuner that doesnt work
[02:03] <tman_ubuntu> cafuego:  I put username/password in a credentials file within the fstab.  Yet I can mount, but not write.
[02:03] <{alejandro}> ah
[02:03] <SAM_theman> how do i change to kdm?
[02:03] <bimberi> alpunk: gtk-gnutella is quite good
[02:03] <{alejandro}> well nevermind..
[02:03] <SAM_theman> login manager
[02:03] <alpunk> bimberi, where do I get that?
[02:03] <{alejandro}> alpunk you can also try giFT
[02:03] <bimberi> alpunk: synaptic
[02:03] <{alejandro}> alpunk search for gift in synaptic
[02:03] <dabaR> SAM_theman: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" should work
[02:03] <n0dl> does anyone here use naim?
[02:04] <alpunk> I'm sorry, how do I do that?
[02:04] <tman_ubuntu> cafuego:  The only time I can write to the drive is when ubuntu mounts the drive by browsing network servers.
[02:04] <{alejandro}> alpunk also, bittorrent is your freind. If you want decent bittorrent, install bittornado from synaptic
[02:04] <Decarabia> bshumate still here ?
[02:04] <bimberi> alpunk: ak, ok ...
[02:04] <{alejandro}> alpunk in your terminal, gksudo synaptic
[02:04] <bimberi> ubotu tell alpunk about synaptic
[02:04] <SAM_theman> thanks \
[02:04] <SAM_theman> it did
[02:04] <n0dl> does anyone here know how to use plugins with gkrellm
[02:04] <n0dl> ?
[02:04] <bimberi> ubotu tell alpunk about repos
[02:05] <n0dl> i keep on getting a make error
[02:05] <n0dl> on every single one i try
[02:05] <n0dl> i have gkrellm 2.2.7
[02:05] <bimberi> alpunk: the "repos" information that ubotu should have /msg-d you includes how to add the "universe" repository which you'll need to get gtk-gnutella (or whatever)
[02:07] <tman_ubuntu> cafuego: The problem I have with Ubuntu doing it, is that I can't play music from the network unless I copy the files down to my local machine.
[02:07] <dabaR> Ubotu is like an index of a book, really.
[02:07] <ubotu> dabaR: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:11] <LunisTarballds> !matrix
[02:11] <ubotu> LunisTarballds: I give up, what is it?
[02:11] <LunisTarballds> hahaha ubotu doesn't even know how deep the rabbit hole goes!
[02:11] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[02:11] <jon_> To anyone, do you know what plugin I need to view embedded wmv movies in the browser?
[02:11] <henk> how do i see at what speed my eth link is set ? its a gigabit card but i want to check if the link is acctualy set as 1000mbit full duplex
[02:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Someone knows, how to configure ubuntu to work with 2 video cards and 2 monitors??
[02:13] <nlfsoftware> Hello again....
[02:13] <whataboutbob> can someone give me a link to the extra repositories for 5.10
[02:14] <nlfsoftware> Any one know how to install Studio11 on UBUNT?
[02:14] <nlfsoftware> UBUNTU sorry...
[02:14] <dabaR> whataboutbob: what installation program do you use?
[02:14] <pedingto> Heyo folks, I've got an issue where I can't get my display to go to 1024x768, I'm using an Intel 845 GL on a Dell Inspiron 1100.  I tried using the i915resolution I think it was, but I couldn't seem to get it to work right.
[02:14] <whataboutbob> synaptec
[02:14] <whataboutbob> or whatever it comes with
[02:14] <dabaR> whataboutbob: what extra repos would you like?
[02:14] <whataboutbob> isn't there a site with a list and instructions on how to add them?
[02:14] <dabaR> pedingto: you can try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto, it always worked for me(after some meddling, and reading a couple times.
[02:14] <whataboutbob> I want webmin specifically
[02:15] <dabaR> one sec, whataboutbob .
[02:15] <dabaR> !+info webmin
[02:15] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[02:15] <pedingto> Thanks dabaR :) I'll give it a shot.
[02:15] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB
[02:15] <whataboutbob> dabaR, what?
[02:16] <dabaR> whataboutbob: add universe. It is shown here: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html. And also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:16] <whataboutbob> dabaR, thanks
[02:17] <pedingto> dabaR, I've already worked through all them :)
[02:17] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: well, did you read the binary driver how to on the wiki, and have you searched the ubuntuforums.org?
[02:17] <Inf3ctedFx> dabaR: nope sorry do u know what is the website?
[02:17] <occy> anyone around?
[02:18] <occy> Need to know the best way to disable touchpad
[02:18] <occy> :)
[02:18] <Determinist> occy, grab a screwdriver, bwahaha
[02:18] <Inf3ctedFx> and also that info u gave to whataboutbob is to add more repositories ?
[02:18] <occy> I keep a mouse plugged in 99% of the time.
[02:18] <occy> Determinist, :P
[02:18] <pozdiy> trying to run remote application, getting this libGL error:"libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted", how to open that DRM?
[02:18] <dabaR> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or same first part up to Nvidia, but instead of Nvidia, ATI
[02:18] <Inf3ctedFx> ok dabaR  thx. let me go ahead and read it
[02:19] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: those two pages show how to enable multiverse and universe, and the wiki page shows how to add outside repositories. That is for synaptic.
[02:19] <dabaR> pedingto: what do you mean?
[02:19] <Inf3ctedFx> cool thx again
[02:19] <dabaR> pedingto: are you saying you tried, and it never worked?
[02:22] <dabaR> pozdiy: maybe you need to install libdrm1. That is a wild guess.
[02:22] <SAM_theman> guy how do you know what version of Kde i am on ??
[02:22] <SAM_theman> *guys
[02:22] <dabaR> We dont.
[02:22] <LunisTarballds> SAM_theman: i have no idea what version of KDE you're on... 4.5?
[02:23] <Blah^> can someone point me in the right direction of where i have to go in ubuntu to connect to a remote windows session thingy
[02:23] <Blah^> in ubuntu
[02:23] <toresbe> Hmm, I have a somewhat odd question
[02:23] <toresbe> I'm a beginning developer, and I've noticed that Dapper has gstreamer 0.10, which i need for a project of mine
[02:23] <Knorrie> Blah^: you mean remote desktop?
[02:23] <Blah^> yeah, thats it
[02:23] <SAM_theman> o ok 3.4.3
[02:23] <toresbe> can I install the Dapper gstreamer packages on Breezy?
[02:24] <Kyral> toresbe: not without redoing the source packages to make sure they work on Breezy
[02:24] <dabaR> toresbe: it is not recommended to install binary packages from a different distribution or version.
[02:24] <Knorrie> Blah^: applications -> internet -> terminal server client?
[02:24] <Knorrie> Blah^: rdpv5
[02:24] <Blah^> ok thanks, ill msg you in a few min if i need help (ubuntu is 95% installed)
[02:24] <toresbe> Kyral: OK, so I can build them from source?
[02:25] <Knorrie> Blah^: nice :)
[02:25] <Kyral> toresbe: sudo apt-get build-dep <package> && sudo apt-get -b source <package>
[02:26] <toresbe> Kyral: so, I add the source repository for dapper, then do that?
[02:26] <Kyral> toresbe: this will download the source package, make sure you have the build depends, and build it IF POSSIBLE
[02:26] <pozdiy> dabaR, have it, also no errors in Xorg.0.log...
[02:26] <Kyral> toresbe: the build depeneds might have changed
[02:26] <pedingto> dabaR, yes thats it :) I can get it to 800x600 using those tips, but 1024 is still not showing.
[02:26] <pedingto> brb
[02:27] <Kyral> toresbe: I'd make an empty dir to do it in
[02:27] <toresbe> Kyral: yeah, my plans exactly
[02:27] <Kyral> toresbe: it will leave some "residue"
[02:27] <toresbe> Kyral: but, nevertheless, i should add the Dapper source repo? My computer will not burst into flames?
[02:28] <Kyral> toresbe: no, those are only accessed when you use apt-get source
[02:28] <toresbe> Kyral: brilliant, thanks a bunch, mate
[02:28] <TokenBad> I have a toc file and tried to load it into k3b and it says the toc file isn't usable..anyone know why?
[02:29] <seife> How do i install an PCIMA Advantek wireless card?
[02:29] <Blocky> how do i get cedega?
[02:30] <RAIDEN> HABLAN ESPAOL
[02:30] <dabaR> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:30] <Blocky> NIHONGO WA NONDESKA?
[02:30] <dabaR> Blocky: visit #cedega
[02:30] <toresbe> ITYM " GA NANDESUKA"
[02:30] <Blocky> ok
[02:31] <toresbe> and it still is a silly question
[02:31] <toresbe> "what is Japanese?"
[02:31] <iflipti> seife: try http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html#drivers
[02:31] <Blocky> ...i took japinese 1 2 years ago
[02:31] <Blocky> i barly rembeer it
[02:31] <Blocky> lol
[02:31] <dabaR> how about engish?
[02:31] <toresbe> As well as your English, I see ;)
[02:32] <iflipti> nihongo ha tanoshii desu ne
[02:32] <Blocky> ...
[02:32] <n0dl> aa ore ha nihongo dekiru!
[02:32] <dabaR> !ph
[02:32] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[02:32] <Blocky> thats okay i still remember baka
[02:32] <toresbe> Kono channeru wa eigo desu. Eigo ga hanasu onegaishimasu.
[02:32] <dabaR> I bet that is that language.
[02:32] <Blocky> ya'll are baka's
[02:32] <toresbe> That sentence was broken, but you get the jist ;)
[02:32] <n0dl> etto ore ha eigo mo dekiru
[02:33] <n0dl> oh ok
[02:33] <Blocky> hmmm lets see here
[02:33] <iflipti> ugh, romaji blows
[02:33] <n0dl> i can type in japanese
[02:34] <CaptainMorgan> sup people ?
[02:34] <JFlash> please help!!   my  isp tellls me i need to issue this commande evrytime i start Ubuntu, in order to make internet connection work:  ip route add 192.168.XXX.X/XX via XXX.XXX.XXX.X
[02:34] <dabaR> why?
[02:34] <JFlash> how can i automate this, so that i dont have to do it evrytime?
[02:34] <iflipti> ok, real question.  Root can't log in from the user login screen... only users can.  Where is root supposed to log in?
[02:34] <dabaR> JFlash: well, is that the exact exact command or are you not telling us the IP addresses?
[02:34] <Blocky> boku wa baka des
[02:35] <Blocky> isnt that right?
[02:35] <Blocky> call myself idiot?
[02:35] <JFlash> dabaR, yea, the xx are just dummy
[02:35] <n0dl> Blocky: hai
[02:35] <seife> i cant still get my advantek wireless pcima card working, help
[02:35] <iflipti> blocky, yeah :)
[02:35] <dabaR> iflipti: that is discouraged, as you can make mistakes causing your system not to work. In the System>Admin>Login Screen Manager, the option is offered to allow root to log in.
[02:36] <SAM_theman> guys i want to install kde 3.5 but how i add this repository for apt
[02:37] <iflipti> thanks, dabaR.
[02:37] <JFlash> dabaR, so do you have a hint?
[02:37] <dabaR> JFlash: do you have a patience?
[02:38] <JFlash> dabaR, yes, it's just that someone is asking me to reboot
[02:38] <iflipti> seife, what have you tried doing so far?
[02:38] <robotgeek> seife: is it listed as working on the wiki?
[02:39] <dabaR> JFlash: use "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh" and add that command to the end of the file before the :exit 0 line.  Then reboot, if you are all about rebooting.
[02:39] <Blocky> do you have to buy cedega :(
[02:39] <dabaR> no, you can also not buy it, like me.
[02:39] <dooglus> Blocky: the source is available.  you can build it yourself
[02:39] <Blocky> does it work the same?
[02:39] <dooglus> yes
[02:40] <Blocky> link?  :)
[02:40] <dooglus> or you can support free software and help improve wine
[02:40] <JFlash> dabaR, thanks. will try that
[02:40] <Blocky> im no programmer
[02:40] <Blocky> lol
[02:40] <dooglus> i see
[02:40] <Blocky> to complicated
[02:40] <dooglus> even punctuation is a problem, right?
[02:40] <dooglus> I'm sorry.  That was rude.
[02:40] <Blocky> nah
[02:41] <dabaR> hah...well, could be taken that way, I thought it was a good joke.
[02:41] <seife> robotgeek, i think it just doesnt detect it.
[02:41] <Blocky> Well, if I took my time I could type in correct format.  It takes to long for me so I don't.
[02:42] <dooglus> Blocky: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[02:42] <dabaR> !+cedega
[02:42] <ubotu> cedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[02:42] <dabaR> !windows
[02:42] <ubotu> well, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[02:42] <robotgeek> seife: plug it in, and type "lspci -v | less"
[02:42] <Blocky> thanks dooglus
[02:43] <seife> robotgeek, now what
[02:43] <Blocky> What does CVS stand for?
[02:43] <Blocky> (notes the punctuation)
[02:43] <robotgeek> seife: look for you wireless card
[02:43] <dooglus> concurrent version system
[02:43] <dooglus> heh
[02:43] <dabaR> !+cvs
[02:43] <ubotu> cvs is, like, the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:44] <iank> Hey all =).  Having problems with rcp.
[02:44] <Blocky> Oh, cool.  Thanks.
[02:44] <iank> RSH works fine, rcp gives a file of zero length.
[02:44] <iank> (When copying from remote to local)
[02:44] <hypernewbie> !+ubuntu
[02:44] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:44] <iank> Ideas?
[02:44] <hypernewbie> !+vim
[02:44] <ubotu> [vim]  an editor that's good at what it does... if you like switching modes constantly
[02:45] <{alejandro}> !startaholywar
[02:45] <ubotu> {alejandro}: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:45] <{alejandro}> !start a holy war
[02:45] <ubotu> {alejandro}: Syntax error in line 1
[02:45] <iflipti> robotgeek, what does "lspc -v| less" do?
[02:46] <hypernewbie> !+foo
[02:46] <ubotu> hypernewbie: Not a clue
[02:46] <hypernewbie> !+foo
[02:46] <hypernewbie> one cool bot
[02:46] <seife> robotgeek, i dont see it
[02:46] <dooglus> what's with the "+"?
[02:47] <seife> brb
[02:47] <robotgeek> iflipti: lspci -v gives you all pci(?) devices in your computer, you pipe it to less so that you can actually see the list
[02:47] <robotgeek> seife: hmm, ok
[02:48] <dabaR> iank: I find scp is too hard to learn, I just use sftp.
[02:49] <bz0b> can someone tell me how to get my X server to start on boot?
[02:50] <nickrud> bz0b, sudo apt-get install gdm should do it
[02:50] <{alejandro}> bz0b or kdm
[02:50] <synap> Hello!
[02:50] <cafuego> bz0b: Install a display manager (like gdm or kdm)
[02:50] <synap> Could someone explain me how to get X windows working on old flat panel screens ?
[02:50] <{alejandro}> bz0b or if you wanna kick it old school xdm (is that even in the repository?)
[02:50] <SAM_theman> hehe i am downloading kde 3.5 For kubuntu
[02:50] <synap> with crt I get image, with flat panel I won't
[02:50] <cafuego> dabaR: 'scp user@host:/file .'
[02:51] <nickrud> yes, along with twm :)
[02:51] <war-totem> once youve installed a .deb package, where does it install to? for example ive installed conkers but cant find it anywhere
[02:51] <{alejandro}> heehee
[02:51] <seife> robotgeek, it says Unknown Device
[02:51] <{alejandro}> war-totem it installs to /usr/bin
[02:51] <cafuego> dabaR: ... and 'scp file user@host:/some/path;
[02:51] <war-totem> {alejandro}: ah thank you
[02:51] <bz0b> cafuego: I use xfce
[02:51] <{alejandro}> war-totem in synaptic, select the package, then properties, then installed files
[02:51] <cafuego> war-totem: 'dpkg -L conkers'
[02:51] <cafuego> bz0b: Yeah, so? install gdm.
[02:51] <iank> dabaR: *not* scp.  And I don't find scp hard to learn ;] .
[02:51] <{alejandro}> bz0b it doesn't matter whether it is gdm or kdm, honestly
[02:52] <iank> dabaR: scp works fine.
[02:52] <iank> dabaR: I'm talking about rcp.
[02:52] <war-totem> cafuego: thank you
[02:52] <iank> (Yes, rcp.  Plaintext passwords.  The horror.)
[02:52] <bz0b> cafuego: so what do i apt-get for? gdm?
[02:52] <dooglus> war-totem: run "dpkg -L conkers" to see what it installed
[02:52] <cafuego> bz0b: yep
[02:52] <lightandbubbly> good morning everyone :)
[02:52] <nickrud> bz0b, gdm is desktop agnostic, it will run any of them. It just starts X for you
[02:52] <SAM_theman> ok got to reboot
[02:52] <Knorrie> cafuego: why do you need gdm to run xfce?
[02:52] <lightandbubbly> i'm a newbie in ubuntu
[02:52] <bz0b> nickrud: i see
[02:52] <Knorrie> lightandbubbly: welcome :)
[02:52] <lightandbubbly> and i need help
[02:53] <{alejandro}> both are wm agnostic
[02:53] <iank> dabaR: unfortunately, I don't have the choice of what client program I use.  If anybody knows a way to tell IRIX's install program to use NFS, I'm all for it ;] 
[02:53] <{alejandro}> you can run a bunch of wms from either one
[02:53] <lightandbubbly> i need to share my printer in a network place but i just don't know how
[02:53] <robotgeek> seife: hmm, can you find your card on the link from the wiki
[02:53] <lightandbubbly> please help
[02:54] <dabaR> ubotu: tell lightandbubbly about samba
[02:54] <Blocky> When installing WineCVS, what profile should I use if I want to play World of Warcraft?
[02:54] <silverton> Blocky, you won't get anywhere with wine dude
[02:54] <silverton> doesn't have the directx support you need
[02:54] <silverton> pay the 15 bucks and subscribe to transgaming and use cedega
[02:54] <robotgeek> seife: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[02:54] <Blocky> It can run under opengl too
[02:54] <Blocky> You dont need dx
[02:54] <dabaR> silverton: are you sure? cause I heard it works on wine...
[02:54] <{alejandro}> they are working on direct-x for wine, actually
[02:54] <silverton> opengl has nothing to do with directx
[02:54] <seife> robotgeek, let me see.
[02:55] <lightandbubbly> what about samba?
[02:55] <dabaR> lightandbubbly: that is what is used for file and print sharing between linux and windows.
[02:55] <Blocky> Well, anyways, does anyone have an answer?
[02:55] <alpunk> I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm trying install qtella, can anybody help?
[02:55] <lightandbubbly> thanks dabar... i'll try checking out samba
[02:55] <seife> robotgeek, i cant even find the manfacturer
[02:56] <norki> what is the sudo command for deleting a directory?
[02:56] <SweetestSavage> I've got a question.. right now, I have home on the same partition that Ubuntu is installed. I want to change one of my other partitions to mount as home.. however all of my configurations are in there. Would I just do sudo cp /home/ /main/ (assuming that /main is the partition I want to change), and then edit fstab to mount the /main partition to /home, and then sudo mount -a ?
[02:56] <iank> norki: rmdir
[02:56] <norki> ta
[02:56] <iank> norki: if it has files in it, either delete them first or do rm -r
[02:56] <norki> it worked =)
[02:56] <norki> haxx0r
[02:56] <bz0b> is there such thing as xdm? or any other desktop managers other then gdm or xdm?
[02:57] <iank> bz0b: yes, there is an xdm.
[02:57] <n0dl> d00d
[02:57] <n0dl> bz0b
[02:57] <bz0b> yeah n0dl
[02:57] <seife> robotgeek, what can i do
[02:57] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, that sounds pretty close to the mark....I'll read it again to make sure :)
[02:57] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, okay.
[02:58] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, the main thing is that I don't know if sudo cp -r /home/ /main/ will copy over the hidden configuration files.
[02:58] <robotgeek> seife: hmm, it must atleast tell you something, not just unknown device?
[02:58] <norki> is it possible to show my mp3 drive (fat32 D:) in computer:///   ?
[02:58] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, it should do
[02:58] <SweetestSavage> (They don't show up on ls in the terminal, or in the file browser.. I know I've seem them before)
[02:58] <SweetestSavage> Okay.
[02:58] <SweetestSavage> Well, I'll make a back-up of fstab incase I mess it up again
[02:58] <mustard5> Swedish_Chef, you would need an asterisk in there though ;)
[02:58] <dabaR> norki: usually what is mounted under /media is shown there.
[02:58] <mustard5> doh..wrong nick
[02:59] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, you would need an asterisk in that command
[02:59] <norki> k i'll try making it mount in media
[02:59] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, for the wildcard
[02:59] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, what would the command be?
[02:59] <dabaR> SweetestSavage: ya, it will.
[02:59] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, sudo cp /home/* /main/
[02:59] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks a lot sir
[02:59] <Blocky> When setting up a profile in wineCVS(a cedega one), it asks for my root password...im SURE im typing it in right.
[03:00] <dabaR> mustard5 is a lady.
[03:00] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, actually, that might be not quite right
[03:00] <Blocky> But it says Auth error
[03:00] <mustard5> dabaR, :)
[03:00] <Blocky> anyone know
[03:00] <SweetestSavage> Yeah, it isn't. Heh. I gotta get all the base files from /home/ into /main/, and then the directory of my username into /main/
[03:00] <dabaR> Blocky: if you are in ubuntu, and have not explicitly enabled root, you will not have a root password, sudo uses your password.
[03:00] <seife> robotgeek, read private
[03:00] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I forgot the -r part :)
[03:01] <Blocky> dabaR how do I eneble root?
[03:01] <catinthehat> does anyone know if i can get a aim version for ubuntu
[03:01] <robotgeek> seife: sudo lspci -v
[03:01] <SweetestSavage> Right, well the current problem now is this.. when I do that command, it makes a folder "home" in /main/, so it appears as /main/home/
[03:01] <dabaR> SweetestSavage: there is nothing under /home except for dirs for users.
[03:01] <SweetestSavage> Oh, really?
[03:01] <SAM_theman> he meaning of this!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:01] <SweetestSavage> Okay, then I don't need anything from there.
[03:01] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/472568
[03:01] <SAM_theman> *whats
[03:01] <SweetestSavage> I would just do sudo cp -r /home/jeff/* /main/ =)
[03:01] <Spandexx> hi guys
[03:01] <Spandexx> I have a little problem KDE vs NIC
[03:02] <SAM_theman> ok
[03:02] <SAM_theman> KDE is better
[03:02] <Blocky> Yep
[03:02] <Spandexx> lol
[03:02] <SAM_theman> go ahead..
[03:02] <norki> weird that my usb key auto mounts, but not my D: drive
[03:02] <dabaR> SAM_theman: heh. I was waiting for you to come with a problem, aftert you gloatingly announced your switch to KDE 3.5
[03:02] <senthil> Can any one help how view WMV Files
[03:02] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, hmmm...*thinking*
[03:02] <senthil> Can any one help how view WMV Files
[03:02] <SAM_theman> :D
[03:02] <lisi> what's lauchpads channel name? thank you
[03:02] <Spandexx> I meant I have a problem with my NIC and Kubuntu
[03:02] <_jason> senthil, you need w32codecs
[03:02] <Spandexx> ;)
[03:02] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, of course without the "=)" haha
[03:02] <senthil> I had installed W32codecs
[03:02] <Spandexx> can somebody help me ;)
[03:02] <_jason> senthil, don't spam and I'll tell you how to get them
[03:02] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, yeah..you need to copy the user folder over I would think
[03:02] <SweetestSavage> Yes, I do.
[03:02] <_jason> senthil, what player are you using
[03:02] <senthil> Still i'm not able to get jaison
[03:02] <SweetestSavage> Otherwise stuff will stop working
[03:03] <senthil> totem
[03:03] <SweetestSavage> (I already tried just switching the partitions without copying anything.. eep)
[03:03] <seife> robotgeek, read
[03:03] <_jason> senthil, install totem-xine
[03:03] <Blocky> How do I eneble root...cause I need it to install
[03:03] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, yeah..it would be easy enough to fix, but best to get it right first time :)
[03:03] <_jason> ubotu, tell Blocky about root
[03:03] <senthil> Could you pls tell me how to install totem-xine
[03:03] <_jason> Blocky, you use sudo
[03:03] <robotgeek> seife: where?
[03:03] <_jason> ubotu, tell senthil about multimedia
[03:03] <SAM_theman> hmm...
[03:03] <_jason> senthil, it is a package available in the repositories
[03:03] <bimberi> SAM_theman: try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:03] <Blocky> Thanks once again _jason!
[03:03] <SweetestSavage> Right, it is =)
[03:04] <Spandexx> I need to unlock my NIC (3) without using the GUI cause this is a know bug on Bugtrack
[03:04] <seife> robotgeek, private msg
[03:04] <SAM_theman> 99 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Need to get 79.4MB of archives.
[03:04] <SAM_theman> After unpacking 28.1MB of additional disk space will be used.
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[03:04] <Spandexx> it is a fresh install
[03:04] <Blocky> _jason, my sudo password does not work for installing this, it asks specifically for a 'root' password
[03:04] <Blocky> my sudo pass isnt working
[03:05] <_jason> senthil, Blocky oh, what are you installing
[03:05] <Blocky> WineCVS
[03:05] <dabaR> Blocky: that page that ubotu sent you shows how to enable root access.
[03:05] <Spandexx> can somebody help me please ;)
[03:05] <senthil> I'm newbie
[03:06] <senthil> could you please walk me through how to install totem-xine
[03:06] <_jason> senthil, do you know how to use synaptic?
[03:06] <_jason> senthil, actually just read http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#codecs that ubotu sent you
[03:06] <Spandexx> apt-get install  'apps'
[03:06] <senthil> i can get into synaptic
[03:06] <senthil> alright i will do that first
[03:06] <lightandbubbly> help please... i will be sharing printer between two linux based computers
[03:07] <lightandbubbly> i tried checking out samba but since i'm a newbie, i might have missed out on some things there
[03:08] <Blocky> It warns "Note: This is not recommended! It will break all the GUI admin tools" to set up root.  Should I worry about this?  Can I get around this?
[03:08] <bimberi> SAM_theman: yep, that looks ok
[03:08] <duomaxwell> Anyone tell me how to remove the firefox search plugins? I tried the search plugin hac and I tried navigating to the folder they're in and deleting them but it looks like they are permissions protected by root
[03:08] <mustard5> Blocky, you can set up a root password using sudo
[03:08] <Blocky> mustard5, Oh?
[03:08] <mustard5> Blocky, I would have thought it was in the guide at the wiki, did you get that guide?
[03:09] <mustard5> Blocky, I think it is sudo passwd root
[03:09] <Blocky> mustard5, ya sudo passwd root, but it warns me that it will break things in the gui
[03:09] <mustard5> Blocky, it should then ask you to input your sudo password..then ask you to enter the password for root twice
[03:09] <mustard5> Blocky, you can disable it afterwards
[03:10] <SAM_theman> o ok
[03:10] <SAM_theman> 3m's left
[03:10] <Spandexx> nic problem in Breezy, need help
[03:10] <Blocky> mustard5 roger
[03:10] <Blocky> mustard5 thanks
[03:10] <seife> robotgeek, so what
[03:10] <mustard5> Blocky, I think disable it afterwards with sudo password root -l  or something like that :)
[03:10] <chapium> Spandexx, whats the problem?
[03:11] <robotgeek> seife: i did not receive any messages from you, we need to find out what device you have (chipset)
[03:11] <mustard5> Blocky, except for the typo I made passwd not password
[03:11] <mustard5> Blocky, you can type man passwd for the manual
[03:11] <nadjyla> hello
[03:11] <senthil> Jaison i'm not able to find any information abt the installation for totem-xine
[03:12] <chapium> Spandexx, stating that you have a problem doesnt give us much to respond to... we need details details! :D
[03:12] <_jason> senthil, okay I am going to walk you through it but the last line of step 2 tells you how
[03:12] <senthil> thank you
[03:13] <Spandexx> thanx chap ;)
[03:13] <emptystapler> How do you add "quick launch" icons next to the main menu? Adding launchers to the panel doesn't achieve the same "close-together" effect as the default ones
[03:13] <_jason> senthil, totem-xine is just a package, you install it like any other package in synaptic.  Go to search and search for 'totem-xine'.  Then right click on the 'totem-xine' package that shows up and choose install.  Then press the apply button up top.
[03:13] <Spandexx> Kubuntu breezy fresh install
[03:13] <Spandexx> NIC works fine in Ubuntu
[03:13] <senthil> I did the same thing
[03:13] <senthil> but i'm not able to find this particular package
[03:13] <_jason> senthil, did you read step 1?
[03:14] <mustard5> emptystapler, can you move the launchers in the panel closer together?
[03:14] <emptystapler> mustard5, i believe i tried that
[03:14] <mustard5> emptystapler, k
[03:14] <emptystapler> mustard5, but i will try again. is that all those icons are? launchers?
[03:14] <senthil> Oops not :(
[03:15] <mustard5> emptystapler, I don't know for sure
[03:15] <_jason> senthil, np, you'll need the universe and mutliverse repos to get access to extra stuff
[03:15] <mustard5> emptystapler, it certainly appears so...at least for the firefox, evolution and help icons
[03:15] <_jason> senthil, let me know if you have any problems after that
[03:15] <emptystapler> mustard5, well, i'll be damned. you CAN move them, there's just no visible indicator
[03:15] <emptystapler> mustard5, and if you overshoot it opens the app you accidentally drop it on
[03:15] <senthil> ok
[03:16] <emptystapler> mustard5, oh well. at least it works!
[03:16] <senthil> i will enable
[03:16] <mustard5> emptystapler, when you have them in position..you can lock them
[03:16] <emptystapler> mustard5, excellent. thank!
[03:16] <michaelh> Hey
[03:16] <emptystapler> thanks, even
[03:16] <michaelh> can someone help me
[03:16] <seife> robotgeek, u still there?
[03:16] <seife> robotgeek, see the priv message now please.
[03:17] <dehoy> does anyone know of a more robust "who", with current directory information, etc
[03:17] <SAM_theman> wtf???
[03:17] <michaelh> Seife can I ask you a question
[03:17] <michaelh> ?
[03:17] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/472581
[03:17] <michaelh> or anyone
[03:17] <michaelh> whos good with ubuntu
[03:17] <alpunk> when I switched over to ubuntu yesterday I had a slave drive with my music and such on it, is there anyway to access that now?  It's in windows format
[03:17] <ardchoille> Does anyone know of a mind map type of app for Gnome?
[03:17] <seife> michaelh, wich?
[03:17] <robotgeek> seife: yes, instead of messaging me, please put it in the pastebin?
[03:17] <seife> ok
[03:17] <robotgeek> seife: so that everyone can see too :)
[03:18] <senthil> Jaison I entered in synaptic package manager and clicked on settings
[03:18] <michaelh> I know this is probly easy, but i get the error "totem could not play //fd:0 how can i fix this?
[03:18] <iflipti> seife & robotgeek: yes please, I want to see what you're saying
[03:18] <seife> whats the pastebin link
[03:18] <ClayG> robotgeek I could never get it to stick using hostname
[03:18] <_jason> senthil, yes?
[03:18] <senthil> Under settings i clicked repositories
[03:18] <alpunk> guess nobody can help me?
[03:18] <_jason> seife, /topic
[03:19] <SAM_theman> brb
[03:19] <ClayG> but I think I got it fixed by editing /etc/hostname
[03:19] <senthil> then i need to go settings
[03:19] <ice_1963> install gxine
[03:19] <robotgeek> ClayG: hmm, pretty soon you are not going to be able to sudo, unless you add it to /etc/hosts
[03:19] <_jason> senthil, try not to use enter as punctuation
[03:19] <senthil> then i have to click on show disable software resources
[03:20] <ClayG> add the name to hosts? isn't hosts usually how the machine that it is local to interprets other machines and calls them?>
[03:20] <ClayG> I will change it regardless
[03:20] <emptystapler> are there any other nice IRC clients besides x-chat?
[03:20] <michaelh> I get the error "Totem could not play fd//0"  or " totem could not start"  what are these errors and how can i fix them?
[03:20] <ClayG> one /hosts can be given to all machines and makes it easier
[03:20] <seife> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5975
[03:20] <alpunk> when I switched over to ubuntu yesterday I had a slave drive with my music and such on it, is there anyway to access that now?  It's in windows format
[03:20] <senthil> Then what should i do ?
[03:20] <ClayG> nice it works like a charm. editting the /etc/hostname
[03:21] <ClayG> To bad reverse res. was as easy
[03:21] <ClayG> er I mean wish
[03:21] <michaelh> is any one here?
[03:21] <senthil> Jaison please tell what to do next ?
[03:22] <seife> so, how do i install my wireless card
[03:22] <robotgeek> seife: the link to the pastebin?
[03:22] <cfh_dev> siefe: What kind of card is it?  Do you know the chipset?
[03:22] <ben_underscore> hi all
[03:22] <seife> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5975
[03:23] <ben_underscore> i'm trying to run a perl cgi script in my own public_html and cannot remember what to do with the apache2.conf to get apache to run it...any suggestions?
[03:23] <dehoy> does anyone know of a more robust "who", with current directory information, etc
[03:24] <cfh_dev> installing from the cd seems to work much better if there's an active inet connection...
[03:24] <michaelh> I get the error "Totem could not play fd//0"  or " totem could not start"  what are these errors and how can i fix them?
[03:24] <seife> robotgeek, so
[03:25] <robotgeek> seife: moment
[03:25] <mustard5> michaelh, well fd sounds like your floppy disk
[03:25] <senthil> Can any one tell me how to install totem-xine ?
[03:25] <Blocky> I had an error while in the 'make' part of the WineCVS.  Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976  Can somone please take a look?\
[03:25] <Kyral> senthil: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[03:25] <mustard5> michaelh, I'm just guessing though :)
[03:25] <michaelh> yes, but it only happens
[03:25] <michaelh> when i go to play music
[03:25] <michaelh> or view any media
[03:26] <robotgeek> seife: i would guess your best bet is ndiswrapper
[03:26] <mustard5> michaelh, what type of music?
[03:26] <mustard5> michaelh, an mp3?
[03:26] <michaelh> any type
[03:26] <michaelh> totem is the music player
[03:26] <michaelh> and it is having trouble
[03:26] <michaelh> with something
[03:26] <michaelh> and i see the problem when i google it
[03:26] <michaelh> but its in french
[03:26] <mustard5> michaelh, have you installed the stuff to support mp3s?
[03:27] <markive> michaelh use xmms
[03:27] <markive> totem is weak
[03:27] <michaelh> honestly, probably not, i switched to ubuntu as a last resort when my comp started going haywire
[03:27] <emptystapler> I can't get static IP assignment to work, for some reason. DCHP works fine, but whenever I assign my static settings as usual, it simply doesn't work (DNS doesn't work, or anything). Although I CAN ping the router...
[03:27] <Blocky> mplayer
[03:27] <michaelh> where can i get xmms
[03:27] <markive> repositories
[03:27] <michaelh> or the mp3 support
[03:27] <emptystapler> I have set my gateway to my router's IP, as well as making a DNS entry for it
[03:28] <Pablo> emmie,  are you entering the right gateway?
[03:28] <mustard5> michaelh, try going to this website and having a read on setting up movies and music  http://help.ubuntu.com
[03:28] <seife> robotgeek, ok let me try it
[03:28] <Blocky> I had an error while in the 'make' part of the WineCVS.  Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976  Can somone please take a look?...anyone know?
[03:28] <emptystapler> I had this same issue with KDE yesterday
[03:28] <markive> mplayer or vlc for vids
[03:28] <markive> xmms for sound
[03:28] <Froo> Hello.
[03:28] <nurfe> is there an apt-get for mplayer?
[03:28] <markive> hi
[03:28] <Blocky> Hi.
[03:28] <Froo> Is this Ubuntu support?
[03:28] <mustard5> ubotu: tell michaelh about restricted
[03:28] <Blocky> Somewhat.
[03:28] <Mulder_> nurfe, in marillat yes
[03:29] <cliebow> any bright ideas why i have no /dev/video file even after modprobe videodev
[03:29] <iflipti> markive:  I found a page that might be helpful to you with your card
[03:29] <markive> really?
[03:29] <markive> wicked
[03:29] <mustard5> michaelh, ubotu should have sent you something on restricted formats too..the support for this stuff can't be included out of the box due to licence restrictions, so there is a bit of setting up to do first
[03:29] <nurfe> Mulder_: You mean the marillat server?
[03:29] <Mulder_> nurfe, marillat repositories
[03:29] <iflipti> markive yeah, one moment while I find it again
[03:30] <markive> thanks  , just got to roll one up be back in 2 secs
[03:30] <jameeru> hey
[03:30] <Blocky> ....Wow
[03:30] <Froo> I have what should be an easy Ubuntu question, if someone feels up to trying to answer - I can't increase my screen resolution. I have been editing files like xorg.conf to no avail. I can't find the XF86Config file at all.
[03:30] <jameeru> whats up
[03:30] <iflipti> markive:  what's the name of your wireless card again?
[03:31] <emptystapler> Froo: what kind of video card?
[03:31] <Froo> NVIDIA GeForce 4
[03:31] <michaelh> mustard5 thanks alot
[03:31] <michaelh> i think thats it
[03:31] <emptystapler> Froo: do the options simply not appear in the gnome menu?
[03:31] <mustard5> michaelh, stick around in here and you will pick things up :)
[03:31] <seife> robotgeek, i installed ndiswrapper, now how do i install the pcima device
[03:31] <mustard5> michaelh, take it pretty slow, as its a steep learning curve for a month or two :)
[03:32] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell seife about ndiswrapper
[03:32] <Blocky> Indeed.  Im in the 4th day lol.
[03:32] <Blocky> Its been error packed too
[03:32] <iflipti> markive: try this http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html
[03:32] <Blocky> Mostly my doing tho
[03:32] <mustard5> Blocky, :)
[03:32] <Mulder_> orinoco works out of the box
[03:32] <robotgeek> kakei: your restart seem to have worked :)
[03:32] <SweetestSavage> Question, right now I can only display 60hz on every resolution available.. is it at all possible to make this value higher? To say, 75hz (like my monitor should be able to display) at 1280x960 ?
[03:33] <kakei> robotgeek no
[03:33] <Froo> emptystapler: That's right - When I was installing, I chose 1024x768 as the highest - I didn't want to take any chances because I had done a previous install with too high of a resolution, and then I couldn't get anything at all. So, I chose too low to be safe, but now I know the correct res. and I want to reset it to that...
[03:33] <kakei> i'm in recovery mode as root
[03:33] <dooglus> give a 'core' file, how can I work out which executable dumped it?
[03:33] <robotgeek> kakei: hmm, why? what went wrong?
[03:33] <markive> back
[03:33] <iflipti> markive:  the orinoco driver supports IEEE, which is what your wireless cardneeds
[03:33] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, it depends on what your monitor supports
[03:33] <emptystapler> Froo: can you locate your xorg.conf file? it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:33] <dooglus> never mind.  I can "file core" to find out
[03:33] <kakei> robotgeek is just restart
[03:34] <SweetestSavage> mustard5 - Well, it certainly supports more than Ubuntu thinks it can
[03:34] <kakei> where can i see logs to see why it restart?
[03:34] <concept10> networkmanager works so well!
[03:34] <SweetestSavage> Ubuntu only allows me to choose 60hz on any resolution
[03:34] <markive> iflipti for xp or ubuntu?
[03:34] <robotgeek> kakei: /var/logs/
[03:34] <Froo> emptystapler: Sure can - I have been there a few times already.
[03:34] <Blocky> I had an error while in the 'make' part of the WineCVS.  Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976  ....anyone know?
[03:34] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, you would need to edit the xorg.conf manually to get it working then I would say
[03:34] <JFlash> what's a good application to seach and download mp3 in linux?
[03:34] <markive> ah
[03:34] <markive> i see
[03:34] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, okay thank you, I will take a look.
[03:34] <_jason> senthil, if you use '_jason' it will alert me that you said something. Have you figured out totem-xine yet?
[03:34] <emptystapler> Froo: okay, let me message you and see if I can find anything amiss
[03:34] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I'll look for a thread that might be helpful in the forums
[03:35] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, thanks a lot =)
[03:35] <Froo> Excellent - Thanks.
[03:35] <kakei> robotgeek they'r many i dont have idea which 1 could be
[03:35] <robotgeek> kakei: which is your native language?
[03:35] <senthil> _Jaison alright since i'm new to this i don't know the procedure
[03:35] <kakei> robotgeek spanish
[03:36] <_jason> senthil, just type _j and then press <tab>, okay you have universe and multiverse enable?
[03:36] <kakei> robotgeek,why? my english is not good?
[03:36] <iflipti> markive:  did you get that webpage?
[03:36] <robotgeek> kakei: you can join #ubuntu-es too :)
[03:36] <Absolute0> can windows write to an ext partition?
[03:36] <robotgeek> kakei: anyways, can you describe why it reboots?
[03:36] <Mulder_> Absolute0, it can with drivers
[03:36] <Absolute0> which one?
[03:36] <Absolute0> ok nevermind...
[03:36] <Mulder_> Absolute0, got sick of dalnet? heh
[03:37] <markive> iflipi yes  , thanks for the  effort , i'lll have a read
[03:37] <kakei> robotgeek is just reboot about 3mins after UP and send my to KDE login screen and then to a console and then it reboot himself
[03:37] <Absolute0> ye lol
[03:37] <Mulder_> there's like 3-4 different ext2 drivers for wiindows
[03:37] <senthil> _jason, i tried sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[03:37] <Absolute0> hows it going?
[03:37] <senthil> _jason, now its installing some thing
[03:37] <_jason> senthil, did it install ok?
[03:37] <kakei> btw Robotgeek i will try Again =)
[03:37] <Mulder_> oKtosiTe, i had to reinstall my computer yesterday though
[03:37] <Blocky> Would anyone be able to help me with a WineCVS 'make' error?
[03:37] <_jason> senthil, okay good
[03:37] <Mulder_> wasnt too happy
[03:37] <Mulder_> and how are you doing?
[03:37] <senthil> _jason, its half way through
[03:37] <Absolute0> ok
[03:38] <emptystapler> anybody have any thoughts here? i can't get static IP assignment to work. i can ping my router using it, but DNS lookups fail (i have set my gateway and DNS entry to point to my router, and DHCP works)
[03:38] <senthil> _jason, What is this X-chat ?
[03:38] <Mulder_> speaking of which, i need to make myself a windows boot cd
[03:38] <emptystapler> Froo: are you getting my messages?
[03:38] <Absolute0> my xchat and gaim letters appear to be blurry for some reason on kubuntu
[03:38] <Absolute0> andything i can do to fix that?
[03:38] <holycow> yet another windows xp install wiped off the face of the planet
[03:38] <holycow> thanku ubuntu!
[03:38] <Froo> emptystapler: No. I was wondering if you were sending any.
[03:39] <Absolute0> and also konsole letters are a little messed up to
[03:39] <chapium> anyone here familiar with networking to a vmware instance?
[03:39] <_jason> senthil, x-chat is an irc client
[03:39] <emptystapler> Froo: I definitely sent them!
[03:39] <Absolute0> like you have one letter slightly above another
[03:39] <Absolute0> =(
[03:39] <emptystapler> Froo: Oohhhh...
[03:39] <senthil> _jason, okay
[03:39] <Absolute0> ??
[03:39] <emptystapler> "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems"
[03:39] <emptystapler> d'oh!
[03:39] <robotgeek> kakei: okay
[03:39] <markive> laptop battery 5 mins left :~ better bugger off
[03:39] <michaelh> mustard5 : are you still there
[03:40] <SweetestSavage> emptystapler, /ns register yourpassword youremail
[03:40] <Froo> emptystapler: We could start a new channel.
[03:40] <mustard5> michaelh, yeah
[03:40] <senthil> _jason, Its downloaded successfully and now its stuck on preconfiguring pakages.....
[03:40] <michaelh> can i pm u
[03:40] <emptystapler> Froo: I'll register
[03:40] <senthil> _jason, I don't know why its thinking ?
[03:40] <_jason> senthil, how do you know it is stuck?  wait a bit
[03:40] <Froo> emptystapler: Or you could join #froo
[03:40] <senthil> _jason, Alright
[03:41] <seife> robotgeek, where i have to paste the .inf file that i am going to install?
[03:41] <mustard5> michaelh, yeah
[03:41] <michaelh> mustard5 : after I do what ubotu showed me, is that all thats neccesarry?
[03:41] <robotgeek> seife: what does the guide say?
[03:41] <mustard5> michaelh, what have you done so far?
[03:41] <Blocky> can ANYONE...recognize a 'make' error, and provide possible fixes....heres the log of the error I had http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976
[03:42] <seife> robotgeek, it says that that .inf file is already installed
[03:42] <michaelh> opened up respori whatever... haha and gone through that whole process
[03:42] <michaelh> checking breezy badger
[03:42] <michaelh> and applying
[03:42] <michaelh> and redling updates
[03:42] <robotgeek> seife: i don't have much knowledge about ndiswrapper
[03:42] <senthil> _jason, no response still
[03:42] <robotgeek> seife: sorry :(
[03:43] <JFlash> what's a good application to seach and download mp3 in linux?
[03:43] <senthil> _jason, Its still thinking
[03:43] <Lukian-> JFlash: torrent :p
[03:43] <_jason> senthil, it's just doing something, give it time
[03:43] <mustard5> michaelh, well it sounds like you have enabled extra repositories, is that right?
[03:43] <michaelh> yes
[03:43] <mustard5> michaelh, now you would need to follow the rest of the instructions
[03:43] <senthil> _jason, Now i can see WMV files. but no sound
[03:43] <mustard5> michaelh, what you have done so far is updated the package lists that you are able download
[03:44] <michaelh> mustard5 can you send me the link again?
[03:44] <_jason> senthil, well that's a start :)  do you have sound in other applications?
[03:44] <michaelh> ok
[03:44] <mustard5> michaelh, now its a case of actually downloading the packages...sure....one sec
[03:44] <michaelh> i didnt scroll down far
[03:44] <senthil> _jason, yep
[03:44] <michaelh> enough
[03:44] <mustard5> michaelh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:44] <mustard5> michaelh, and also read this help.ubuntu.com
[03:44] <mustard5> michaelh, bookmard them ;)
[03:44] <_jason> senthil, did you install all of those codecs on that page I gave you? http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#codecs
[03:45] <mustard5> *bookmard
[03:45] <mustard5> doh
[03:45] <kakei> robotgeek
[03:45] <kakei> =( it keeping rebooting
[03:46] <michaelh> mustard5: I am on the page, have the extra repositories , but am not seeing whats next...
[03:46] <Absolute0> which package do i need to install to swithc from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[03:46] <mustard5> michaelh, which guide? the help one or the restricted formats one?
[03:46] <JFlash> Lukian-, torrents dont work for me cz i'm under a router firewall
[03:46] <bimberi> Absolute0: ubuntu-desktop
[03:46] <michaelh> restricted formats
[03:47] <mustard5> michaelh, you need mp3 support so hit the link in the menu to mp3s
[03:47] <Lukian-> JFlash: good luck getting anything else to work then.
[03:47] <Blocky> Lol.  I got help faster in the Deb server then here...  Hehe...
[03:47] <sethk> kakei, do you mean that the login screen comes up, then dies and puts you in a console, and then reboots?
[03:47] <sethk> kakei, all at once?
[03:48] <Lukian-> Blocky: URI?
[03:48] <SweetestSavage> Can someone promptly explain to me what "chroot" is?
[03:48] <mustard5> michaelh, hmm actually I am not seeing it either :)
[03:48] <sethk> kakei, or do you mean the login screen comes up and stays there until you do something?
[03:48] <cjohnson> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, and whenever I try to view a movie with Totem, I get an error message about "video output is already in use."  Any ideas?
[03:48] <kakei> sethk yes
[03:48] <kakei> 1st case
[03:48] <_jason> SweetestSavage, chroot - run command or interactive shell with special root directory
[03:48] <Lukian-> cjohnson: I get that too :D
[03:48] <cjohnson> SweetestSavage, it changes the root directory the user sees
[03:48] <sethk> SweetestSavage, it is a way to change the root file system, that is, the file system referred to by /
[03:48] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay, thanks
[03:48] <sethk> SweetestSavage, it is mostly used for testing new root file systems
[03:48] <cjohnson> Lukian-, any ideas how to fix it?
[03:49] <sethk> SweetestSavage, it is also used by rescue disks to boot, and then move to the root file system of the machine you are doing recovery on
[03:49] <mustard5> michaelh, its the one at the top....under the heading 'Media players provided by Ubuntu'
[03:49] <kakei> sethk 1st case i can go to the desktop for a while,then a console screen comes up and then reboot
[03:49] <cjohnson> (And for isolating things like Apache for added security)
[03:49] <Lukian-> cjohnson: a) use VLC instead b) looking now.. :p
[03:49] <mustard5> michaelh, it has this command in it sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:49] <cjohnson> Heh
[03:49] <Lukian-> b) google failed me :p
[03:49] <sethk> kakei, does the console say up for a while?  Or does it reboot immediately after the console is seen?
[03:49] <Discipulus> Lukian-, you mean C?
[03:49] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: chroot can also be used for security.  once a process chroot's into a directory there's no way for it to see anything outside of that directory
[03:50] <kakei> sethk : is just get 'hanged' and reboot then
[03:50] <cjohnson> Also, I've (already) forgotton my root password :/   Is there a simple way of resetting it?  Like, how do you boot into single-user mode with GRUB?
[03:50] <Lukian-> Discipulus: nope
[03:50] <michaelh> so what do i do with that code
[03:50] <michaelh> ?
[03:50] <Discipulus> Lukian- cjohnson: a) use VLC instead b) looking now.. :p
[03:50] <dooglus> cjohnson: just "sudo passwd" will let you reset the root password
[03:50] <Discipulus> Lukian- b) google failed me :p
[03:50] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay
[03:50] <kvidell> like whoa.
[03:50] <sethk> kakei, I saw you talking about logs a few minutes ago.  What do the logs show?
[03:50] <SweetestSavage> I see, thanks a lot =)
[03:50] <mustard5> michaelh, go to your Applications>.Accessories menu and open the Terminal
[03:50] <Lukian-> Discipulus: yes, google failed me in relation to b)
[03:50] <dooglus> cjohnson: although you're not supposed to set a root password in ubuntu
[03:51] <Discipulus> ah
[03:51] <Discipulus> gotcha
[03:51] <mustard5> michaelh, then put that command in...just copy and paste it in an hit enter..then give your user password
[03:51] <michaelh> ok
[03:51] <cjohnson> dooglus: ?
[03:51] <Darren> If i install the xubuntu-desktop package will it install the latest XFCE or will i need to update it?
[03:51] <dooglus> cjohnson: the root password is locked by default.  use "sudo" to run commands as root.  the password is prompts for is your password, not root's
[03:51] <Discipulus> Darren, it will install the latest
[03:51] <Darren> Thanks :)
[03:51] <mustard5> michaelh, tell me how you go :)
[03:51] <cjohnson> To be honest I don't remember setting the root password during install... I'm just looking at this "37 updates available" thing
[03:51] <cjohnson> dooglus, Ah, okay
[03:51] <JFlash> how do i uninstall a  theme?  i've been told i just need to delete the directory but i dont know where this directory is !!!
[03:52] <Darren> I'll brb then!
[03:52] <dooglus> cjohnson: it's likely that you haven't forgotten your root password, but that you never had one to start with.
[03:52] <cjohnson> dooglus, I see... That's interesting idea, btw, of just using sudo for everything
[03:52] <iflipti> cjohnson:  in the terminal type "sudo passwd root"
[03:52] <michaelh> mustard5: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:52] <michaelh> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:52] <michaelh> thats what i got
[03:53] <mustard5> michaelh, close down synaptic..its locking apt-get from working
[03:53] <JFlash> Lukian-, actually it does downloads torrents but it's no good cz i cant get decent number of sources because of the way torrents work. all other applications work just fine
[03:53] <kakei> sethk http://pastebin.com/472605
[03:53] <dooglus> cjohnson: it means that there's no root password for crackers to brute-force
[03:53] <senthil> _jason, I don't find any one of this packages ?
[03:53] <michaelh> ok
[03:53] <seife> who knows about ndiswrapper here? i  need help0r
[03:53] <dooglus> cjohnson: but on the down side it means that anyone getting access to your user account automatically has root
[03:53] <mustard5> michaelh, you can only use on or the other at any specific time..thats all its saying
[03:53] <holycow> *hmmm* oem install seems to be working pretty well, not asking too many questions
[03:53] <cjohnson> dooglus: But they can still brute force a user account, and from their do sudo, right?
[03:53] <mustard5> michaelh, if you have synaptic open then apt-get wont work
[03:53] <Aven> ubotu tell aven about sources
[03:53] <michaelh>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:53] <michaelh> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:53] <michaelh> michael@ubuntu:~$ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:53] <michaelh> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:54] <mustard5> michaelh, and vice versa
[03:54] <dooglus> cjohnson: from their own sudo?  why?
[03:54] <senthil> _jason, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:54] <Aven> can someone type 'ubotu tell aven about sources'?
[03:54] <senthil> _jason, i don't see the above packages .....
[03:54] <Aven> I'm unable to send PMs
[03:54] <mustard5> michaelh, give synaptic a few seconds to shut down then try again
[03:54] <ben_underscore> seife, i know a bit
[03:54] <_jason> senthil, sorry, I have to go now.  ask the channel, they will help you
[03:54] <Aven> (not registered)
[03:54] <michaelh> ok
[03:54] <cjohnson> I mean, if a hacker gets my account password now, they basically have root access, don't they?
[03:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell aven about sources
[03:55] <Aven> oh geez
[03:55] <seife> ben_underscore, i have the .inf, but i dont know where i have to put it before typing the commands on terminal
[03:55] <Aven_> ubotu tell aven about sources
[03:55] <Aven> there
[03:55] <michaelh> wow mustard5
[03:55] <michaelh> its working
[03:55] <michaelh> it asked me if i wanted to unpack
[03:55] <mustard5> michaelh, k well done
[03:55] <michaelh> i said y
[03:55] <mustard5> michaelh, you do :)
[03:55] <dooglus> cjohnson: yes, that's right
[03:55] <mustard5> michaelh, thats correct
[03:55] <michaelh> ausome
[03:55] <michaelh> haha
[03:55] <mustard5> michaelh, apt-get is just a command line version of synaptic
[03:56] <michaelh> cool, so is this all there is now?
[03:56] <dooglus> cjohnson: sorry, I was confused by your unconventional spelling of "there".
[03:56] <sethk> kakei, Nothing obviously wrong in that log file.  let's divide and conquer this problem.  Let's boot into single user mode, where X does not start.  Then let the machine run for a while and see if it reboots.  As far as log files go, /var/log/messages would probably be more interesting.  Possibly, if they have been written to just before the crash, /var/l.og/kern.log and/or /var/log/debug
[03:56] <ben_underscore> seife, i suggest you install ndisgtk
[03:56] <mustard5> michaelh, well when its finished you should have mp3 support enabled I would think
[03:56] <michaelh> ok
[03:56] <michaelh> well see
[03:56] <seife> ben_underscore, i installed it, how do i run it
[03:56] <michaelh> =D
[03:56] <ben_underscore> seife, it is a gui wrapped around ndiswrapper, and it saves you doing a lot
[03:56] <kakei> sethk
[03:56] <michaelh> mustard5 do you have aim? I feel i might need support again sometime in the future
[03:56] <cjohnson> dooglus, ah, oops
[03:56] <kakei> tha's my xorg.0.log
[03:56] <ben_underscore> seife, type "sudo ndisgtk" in the terminal window
[03:57] <sethk> kakei, I know what it is
[03:57] <mustard5> michaelh, in here is best..as I don't know all the answers...PM me if you like
[03:57] <sethk> kakei, there isn't anything in it that shows why X crashed.  The other logs have a better chance of having useful information
[03:57] <kakei> sethk this start happening when i install kernel-k7 , but actually i uninstalled it
[03:57] <ben_underscore> seife, or it should be in system->administration->wireless windows drivers
[03:57] <michaelh> I cannot pm for somereason, I am on gaim
[03:57] <michaelh> never opened up xchat
[03:57] <mustard5> michaelh, you might need to register on IRC first
[03:57] <dooglus> cjohnson: I imagine it's easier to break into a user account than it is into a root account - users run all kinds of insecure apps, like web browsers, email clients, instant messaging, etc.  any hole in one of those could give someone access - and then it's a simple "sudo" to get root
[03:57] <sethk> kakei, yes, that fits with what I'm thinking.  It also fits with the logs I mentioned.
[03:57] <mustard5> !register
[03:57] <ubotu> methinks register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[03:57] <senthil> _jason, Alright that for your help
[03:57] <senthil> bye
[03:57] <sethk> kakei, did you reinstall the earlier kernel version?
[03:58] <iflipti> could someone tell me how I can have an Io connection and be receiving packets, yet still be unable to use apt-get or the internet?
[03:58] <sethk> kakei, you may have gotten X and the kernel out of sync.
[03:58] <michaelh> omg
[03:58] <mustard5> check the text that ubotu put above michaelh
[03:58] <michaelh> must
[03:58] <michaelh> ard
[03:58] <awtomlinson> can someone please help with a harddrive recovery?
[03:58] <kakei> sethk
[03:58] <sethk> iflipti, lot's of ways.  the ip filter can be blocking things.  Your dns may not be working correctly or completely.
[03:58] <ben_underscore> seife, then all you do is click the right buttons, put in the cd for the card's drivers and find the inf file. it does the rest
[03:58] <kakei> and if i install a new kernel?
[03:59] <michaelh> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[03:59] <michaelh> There were no decoders found
[03:59] <ben_underscore> seife, i hope that helps. now i have to go as my daughter will wake up soon
[03:59] <xkahn> There are too many Bens in Ubuntu.
[03:59] <sethk> kakei, of course installing a new kernel isn't supposed to break anything
[03:59] <sethk> kakei, but, I know that whenever I install a new kernel, I have to rebuild my nvidia drivers
[03:59] <dooglus> can anyone tell me how to rebuild a standard ubuntu package with debugging enabled (ie. the "-g" gcc flag) please?
[03:59] <xkahn> It makes my computer beep and my xchat flash all the time.
[03:59] <mustard5> michaelh, k..one sec ..I'll find a command for you
[03:59] <ben_underscore> xkahn, that's cos ben is a cool name
[03:59] <seife> ben_underscore, thanks
[03:59] <awtomlinson> the partition was reiserfs, but now its not detectable as reiser.  will fsck rebuild-sb delete the current data?  if so, what can i use to help preserve the data before rebuilding the superblock?
[03:59] <ben_underscore> seife, anytime
[03:59] <Locke> how can i get emacs?
[03:59] <michaelh> thanks alot mustard5 i would never be able to do this without your help
[03:59] <mustard5> michaelh, put this in terminal gst-register-0.8
[03:59] <dooglus> Locke: "emacs21"
[04:00] <BxL> is there any way to boot in init 3?
[04:00] <kakei> sethk whats the possibility of Nvidia drivers are Doing this
[04:00] <awtomlinson> can anyone help?
[04:00] <dooglus> BxL: edit /etc/inittab
[04:00] <sethk> kakei, I'd say it is very likely
[04:00] <Locke> whats better for programming, emacs or gedit? or some other that i'm completely unaware of?
[04:00] <michaelh> ok
[04:00] <michaelh> one sec
[04:00] <sethk> kakei, but of course that is, at best, an educated guess
[04:00] <robotgeek> Locke: emacs
[04:00] <BxL> dooglus, yeah well it's set at 2 right now
[04:00] <kakei> sethk
[04:00] <dooglus> BxL: edit the "id:2:initdefault:" line
[04:00] <michaelh> ok done
[04:00] <iflipti> sethk: ok I'm using a WEP wireless connection.  I think I just need to login to the WEP
[04:00] <dooglus> BxL: you want 3?  change the 2 to a 3
[04:00] <kakei> i will reboot which logs u want to see ?
[04:00] <mustard5> michaelh, try now
[04:00] <kakei> to do it fast hehe
[04:01] <BxL> dooglus, hmm, last time i changed it to 3 it didn't work
[04:01] <regeya> awtomlinson, you should try running fsck rebuild-sb but I truly hope you have a backup of your important data.
[04:01] <sethk> iflipti, that's quite possible
[04:01] <BxL> I guess i'll just try it again
[04:01] <kakei> i pastedbinded my kernel.log http://pastebin.com/472615
[04:01] <BxL> thanks
[04:01] <dooglus> BxL: define "didn't work".  if you change the 2 to a 3 it will boot into runlevel 3.  whether that's what you really want or not is open to question.
[04:01] <awtomlinson> someone please help
[04:01] <sethk> iflipti, kakei, BRB
[04:01] <BxL> dooglus, it was booting in rnlevel 5 anyway
[04:01] <dooglus> BxL: I believe runlevels 2 and 3 are the same on a standard ubuntu desktop
[04:02] <seife> somebody help, ndiswrapper is not installing the wireless device..
[04:02] <seife> i selected all the inf files
[04:02] <seife> and nothing
[04:02] <JFlash> how can I uninstall a theme?
[04:03] <BxL> dooglus, but it's not booting in level 2 anyway, it's booting in runlevel 5
[04:03] <awtomlinson> harddrive crash, i desperately need help
[04:03] <seife> when i select a new inf it says on terminal "modprobe config already contains alias directive
[04:03] <seife> "
[04:03] <MarcN> nautilus keeps crashing, offering to restart, crashing, etc.  Anyone know how to really kill it off?  kill 9'ing of gnome_segv doesn't do it.  Some watchdog process somewhere, but which one?
[04:03] <awtomlinson> regeya, i don't have a backup.  will the rebuild trash the data?
[04:04] <regeya> awtomlinson, hard to say.  depends on how corrupt the current tree is.
[04:04] <sethk> awtomlinson, usually not.  the point is to recover the data
[04:04] <frogzoo> BxL: runlevel ?  stock = "N 2"
[04:04] <michaelh> Mustard5 :  I still got the original error " Totem Could not play fd://0" when loading the page, and i get the error " The totem player could not start"
[04:04] <sethk> awtomlinson, but of course it may not be recoverable
[04:04] <sethk> awtomlinson, but you don't really have much choice.
[04:04] <mustard5> michaelh, hmm I might get you to look at this guide instead which involves installing totem-xine to replace totem
[04:04] <mustard5> michaelh, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[04:04] <awtomlinson> is there anything that i can do do make a copy of the existing "data" on the corrupted partition before rebuilding?
[04:05] <iflipti> sethk: do you know where I login to WEP?
[04:05] <regeya> plus I lost data through a rebuild-sb on a mandrake release that had a buggy reiserfs.
[04:05] <mustard5> michaelh, go down the list and install each of the things it tells you to install
[04:05] <michaelh> ok
[04:05] <regeya> of course we all know that the only time you lose data on reiser is because of bad hardware *wink*
[04:05] <sethk> iflipti, you don't exactly log in.  What you do is set up the keys in the networking dialog on the administration menu
[04:05] <kakei> sethk so what you want to me show u ?
[04:05] <awtomlinson> anything i can do before rebuilding the superblock?
[04:06] <mustard5> michaelh, it sounds like totem is being a pain..so I think changing to totem-xine will help
[04:06] <seife> Somebody help me please with ndiswrapper
[04:06] <frogzoo> awtomlinson: use a backup superblock with fsck ?
[04:06] <mustard5> michaelh, your looking for the installing multimedia codecs part
[04:06] <Blocky> Can anyone...decipher what this means and how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976
[04:06] <awtomlinson> frogzoo, don't know how to do that.  i'm pretty lost in the terminal.  can you help?
[04:07] <sethk> awtomlinson, I would recommend making an image backup of the partition, if you can.
[04:07] <iflipti> sethk: oh, right.  in system>administration>networking ?
[04:07] <sethk> iflipti, right
[04:07] <mustard5> michaelh, its a bit of a pain installing this stuff at the start, but once its all set up the pain will be over :)
[04:07] <awtomlinson> the partition is 200gb.  how can i make an image backup of this?
[04:07] <kakei> ok im here
[04:07] <sethk> awtomlinson, if you have 200 gb of space, it is trivial.
[04:07] <sethk> awtomlinson, if you don't, it's impossible
[04:08] <awtomlinson> sethk, i don't quite follow you
[04:08] <Lukian-> awtomlinson: compress it :)
[04:08] <sethk> kakei, Boot your system in single user mode.
[04:08] <frogzoo> awtomlinson: fsck -b SUPERBLOCK - just nominate a backup superblock
[04:08] <sethk> awtomlinson, you mean, what program do you use?  dd
[04:08] <senthil> Can any one tell me how to install totem-xine
[04:08] <awtomlinson> well, that & the trivial part
[04:08] <kakei> sethk single user mode == normal ? lol
[04:08] <sethk> awtomlinson, dd if=/dev/hda1 | bzip2 > output.file.bz2
[04:08] <kakei> im as normal
[04:08] <mustard5> senthil, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:08] <sethk> kakei, no, normal == normal
[04:09] <Blocky> can anyone please help me?
[04:09] <Delvien> Anyone know how to run the command "sudo emifreqd" at start up. i put it in sessions startup but it never works.....
[04:09] <awtomlinson> sethk, the problem is, i don't have much room on this partition to make a backup.  how can i send this backup to my external (/dev/sda1)?
[04:09] <sethk> awtomlinson, dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/sda1
[04:09] <mustard5> senthil, try this guide for installing multimedia codecs if you need more http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[04:09] <sethk> awtomlinson, if you want to back up /dev/hda1
[04:09] <senthil> mustard5, Its not working properly for some reason
[04:09] <sethk> awtomlinson, obviously you use /dev/hdXX, whatever you actually want to back up.
[04:09] <illicit> giggidy
[04:09] <illicit> goo
[04:10] <Blocky> ...its quagmire
[04:10] <mustard5> senthil, you may need to enable extra repositories..that guide above will give you links to a guide to do that
[04:10] <ZeroIRC> Wow, was that really quagmire?
[04:10] <ZeroIRC> lol
[04:10] <sethk> awtomlinson, when you use dd that way, it copies until it runs out of data, in this case that will be the end of the /dev/hdXX partition.
[04:10] <mustard5> senthil, I take it the error is saying the package doesnt exist or something along those lines
[04:10] <sethk> awtomlinson, providing, that is, that /dev/sda1 is >= the size of the partition you need to back up
[04:10] <Blocky> Yes, another...(again) quagmire sighting
[04:10] <Blocky> Lol.
[04:10] <ZeroIRC> wow, he is everywhere
[04:10] <awtomlinson> sethk, so this may take some time for such a large partition?
[04:11] <sethk> awtomlinson, hours
[04:11] <awtomlinson> right now, the cursor is just blinking after entering the command.
[04:11] <regeya> giggity
[04:11] <regeya> allll right
[04:11] <kakei> hey pls tell me fast what log u want to see
[04:11] <kakei> this will reboot soon
[04:11] <demon71> Anyone help with video issue? "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)"
[04:11] <michaelh> mustard5 the packages are dling now
[04:11] <Blocky> "Pre-op or post-op"
[04:11] <chapium> whats up people.  I need samba help.  I followed the wiki, but when it comes to configuration, the options i need just are not there
[04:11] <regeya> whatloguwanttosee
[04:11] <mustard5> michaelh, k
[04:11] <regeya> ^fast
[04:11] <sethk> awtomlinson, I would expect the drive light to be on all the time
[04:11] <chapium> this is from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[04:12] <kakei> sethk
[04:12] <senthil> mustard5, I tried installing for some reason i
[04:12] <sethk> awtomlinson, you won't see anything output from the program, unfortunately
[04:12] <kakei> sethk pls tell me wich logs u need
[04:12] <awtomlinson> so, even after backing this up with dd, what to do to recover afterward?
[04:12] <chapium> when I click the general tab all i have is host and domain
[04:12] <sethk> kakei, /var/log/messages first
[04:12] <sethk> awtomlinson, fsck
[04:12] <senthil> mustard5, i'm not able find the gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> I want to send a document made in Oo, a .odt format, to a person that has Win, a .doc format... I tired these extensions as well as .txt... none worked.. is it possible ?
[04:12] <M_Cheevy> heya ppls...
[04:13] <mustard5> senthil read the first step on enabling multiverse and univers
[04:13] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, open the file with open office, do save as, then choose microsoft word format
[04:13] <Blocky> Can somone PLEASE help me with a WineCVS error...no response in an hour...is there somewhere better i could ask?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976
[04:13] <seife> i need help with ndiswrapper, if someone helps me i would appreciate
[04:13] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, tried that
[04:13] <michaelh> mustard5 , there done, and theres no error and i hear the sound!
[04:14] <mustard5> michaelh, well done..you should help senthil do it now :)
[04:14] <Blocky> Somone?
[04:14] <mustard5> michaelh, he has the same problem ;)
[04:14] <mustard5> michaelh, he needs to enable his repositories :)
[04:14] <kimitaka> anyone have uim working with qt?
[04:14] <michaelh> haha
[04:14] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, what happens?
[04:14] <michaelh> ok
[04:14] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, I can open it in Oo as a .doc fine too... when it's sent to the person, it's garbled
[04:14] <Madpilot> Blocky: try #winehq
[04:14] <michaelh> senthil: are you there
[04:14] <michaelh> ?
[04:14] <awtomlinson> sethk, this is making my system run slow as can be.  what fsck command to use after this is done?
[04:14] <Blocky>  Ok
[04:15] <mustard5> michaelh, his goal is to install totem-xine btw
[04:15] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, save as the other format that m$ word can read
[04:15] <michaelh> ok
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, what's happens? after I tried save as? it saves fine..
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, which is .doc
[04:15] <sethk> awtomlinson, it will make the system run very slowly.
[04:15] <M_Cheevy> having a couple of problems with automounting of cdroms/dvds... all of my multimedia apps are happy with the automounting except totem (and dvdrip)... also I can't eject the disks or unmount them?  is there a good document relating to this.. I'm on page 10 of a google search and I'm not finding anything specific to my issue
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, and also .txt
[04:15] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, no, there are two formats
[04:15] <michaelh> mustard5 are you in here often
[04:15] <michaelh> ?
[04:15] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, no, not .txt
[04:15] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, rtf
[04:15] <mustard5> michaelh, usually once a day at some time or another
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, word can certainly read .txt
[04:15] <iflipti> seife, try this http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:15] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, ok, then, use txt if you like
[04:15] <michaelh> ok cool
[04:16] <michaelh> sethil isnt reponding
[04:16] <Delvien> mustard5 hey bro , anyway to make the command sudo emifreqdso emifreq doesnt come up with an error saying emifreqd is not runnign
[04:16] <michaelh> And i am on upper east coast and need some sleep,  thanks alot Mustard5
[04:16] <sethk> awtomlinson, the fsck command depends on the file system type.  usually the program named fsck will call the appropriate "real" fsck program, which is fsck.ext2, fsck.ext3, etc.
[04:17] <michaelh> mustard5 = savior
[04:17] <mustard5> Delvien, I dont know :)
[04:17] <mustard5> michaelh, np
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, already said.. when sent, her system won't open it correctly... all im saying is I know for a fact Word operates in .doc and .txt... but as you say possibly .rtf too
[04:17] <senthil> mustard5, i got it
[04:17] <mustard5> senthil, well done :)
[04:17] <senthil> mustard5, now i'm installing
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> sethk, maybe it's her system? and nothing from my side ?
[04:17] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, word reads rtf.  rtf was originally the m$ word format, many moons ago
[04:17] <mustard5> senthil, k..tell me if you get errors :)
[04:17] <senthil> mustard5, Thanks for you help :-)
[04:18] <michaelh> mustard im me on aim i really want your aim sn haha, i know i will be faced with more troubles
[04:18] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, no, it's an open office conversion to .doc problem
[04:18] <senthil> mustard5, Sure i will let you know
[04:18] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, almost always in this case using rtf will fix the problem
[04:18] <mustard5> michaelh, there are tons of people in here who can help with the basic setting up..you'll be fine :)
[04:18] <michaelh> ok
[04:18] <michaelh> thanks
[04:18] <michaelh> peace
[04:18] <mustard5> michaelh, nite
[04:20] <Codyman> i've instlaled drivers with ndiswrapper for my usb wireless card... ndiswrapper -l confirms they are properly installed and hardware is present.. i modprobe ndiswrapper... things look good... but then i go to iwconfig and wlan0 has no wireless extensions.... any ideas?
[04:21] <senthil> mustard5, I got installed successfully
[04:21] <mustard5> senthil, all working now?
[04:21] <senthil> mustard5, Now i can see WMV files but no voice
[04:21] <senthil> mustard5, i can listen MP3 songs and avi files
[04:22] <mustard5> senthil, k...check the volume settings?
[04:22] <mustard5> senthil, wmv's are troublesome at times
[04:22] <senthil> mustard5, i did
[04:22] <senthil> mustard5, alright
[04:22] <mustard5> senthil, I'm not sure how you would fix them unfortunately
[04:22] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: does wmv require the w32codecs?
[04:22] <mustard5> senthil, try asking others :)
[04:22] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, you could be right
[04:23] <mustard5> ubotu: tell senthil about restricted
[04:23] <M_Cheevy> wmv is a proprietary windows media format if memory serves...
[04:23] <senthil> M_Cheevy, I had installed w32codecs also
[04:23] <M_Cheevy> damn, worth a shot
[04:23] <SEJeff> wmv = windows media video
[04:23] <mustard5> senthil, look at the the link that ubotu sent you and look for installing w32codecs
[04:23] <SEJeff> wma = windows media audio
[04:23] <mustard5> !w32codecs
[04:23] <mustard5> senthil, k..ignore that then :)
[04:23] <kakei> sethk : i typed kdm as root@kakei on recovery mode and seens to work =o
[04:24] <senthil> mustard5, who is ubotu ?
[04:24] <M_Cheevy> senthil: wmv is kind of flaky..
[04:24] <sethk> kakei, ok
[04:24] <regeya> !botsnack
[04:24] <ubotu> :)
[04:24] <mustard5> senthil, a help bot
[04:24] <kakei> sethk hmmmmmmm this prett weird isnt ?
[04:24] <kakei> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5978
[04:24] <regeya> !start an editor war
[04:24] <ubotu> jed is better than xemacs.
[04:24] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: any ideas on the cd/dvd automount question I posted?
[04:24] <GURT> i can't get the cd/dvd drive icons off fo my desktop.. there is no media in either drives
[04:25] <regeya> AMEN BRODDA UBOTU
[04:25] <MrFarts> eww jed :)
[04:25] <M_Cheevy> gurt and I are having a similar problem (or at least part of mine is similar)
[04:25] <sethk> kakei, most of that is harmless noise
[04:25] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, umm I missed it sorry....try adding hal to the group for cdrom
[04:25] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, ah k
[04:25] <kakei> :(
[04:26] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, I'll see if its still on my screen
[04:26] <sethk> kakei, the keyboard errors need to be fixed
[04:26] <regeya> heh MrFarts
[04:26] <seife> I need help, i use the inf files from the official windows drivers and none of them work, all says 'invalid driver'
[04:26] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: that could be it.. plus I get a gripe line during shutdown that the hal pid file can't be found.. but do see hal starting up during boot.. could be the prob is with good ole hal...
[04:26] <kakei> which keyboard error?
[04:26] <MrFarts> seife, what are you trying to do ?
[04:26] <sethk> kakei, looks like a USB device was removed while still mounted
[04:26] <regeya> seife...
[04:26] <senthil> mustard5, I have another problem that my screen and windows looks very big
[04:26] <kakei> sethk
[04:26] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, yeah I read it in a thread the other day
[04:26] <kakei> hmmmmmmm yes but that was on the morning
[04:26] <sethk> kakei, the lines that say "unknown key released, unknown key pressed"
[04:27] <mustard5> !fixres
[04:27] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:27] <Codyman> !wireless
[04:27] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:27] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: do you have the sucker in a history file?
[04:27] <senthil> mustard5, I believe display drivers are mismache
[04:27] <seife> MrFarts, install my wireless device, i got the windows drivers, i tried using the inf files with ndiswrapper but none of them works, it says "invalid driver!"
[04:27] <mustard5> senthil, read the fixres thing above from ubotu
[04:27] <MrFarts> seife, ah, i've never playedw ith ndiswrapper, sorry
[04:27] <seife> regeya, what
[04:27] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, ummm...I'll try to find it
[04:27] <MrFarts> seife, i'd just use something supported natively, but i guess that's not much help to you :)
[04:27] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: here's the original question:  having a couple of problems with automounting of cdroms/dvds... all of my multimedia apps are happy with the automounting except totem (and dvdrip)... also I can't eject the disks or unmount them?  is there a good document relating to this.. I'm on page 10 of a google search and I'm not finding anything specific to my issue
[04:28] <mustard5> M_Cheevy, basically it said open /etc/groups and add hal to then end of the cdrom group
[04:28] <senthil> mustard5, i'm doing that and thanks for ubontu
[04:28] <M_Cheevy> mustard5: cool, will give that a shot and also maybe reconfigure hal
[04:28] <mustard5> senthil, k
[04:29] <bz0b> can someone tell me why when i reboot after installing xdm it like goes to start X but then it dies, without any error
[04:29] <kakei> sethk : so u think can be a "Unknown" key of the keyboard who's playing a bad joke? lol
[04:29] <bz0b> and i still have to manually startx
[04:30] <norki> i downloaded easy aMSN.. it's compiling - sure taking a looong time X)
[04:30] <sethk> kakei, :)  I think you don't have the spanish keyboard configuration loaded
[04:30] <MrFarts> norki, any reason for not just using gaim ?
[04:30] <norki> yeah, i want custom emoticons
[04:31] <Codyman> i've instlaled drivers with ndiswrapper for my usb wireless card... ndiswrapper -l confirms they are properly installed and hardware is present.. i modprobe ndiswrapper... things look good... but then i go to iwconfig and wlan0 has no wireless extensions.... any ideas?
[04:31] <MrFarts> norki, you can use custom emoticons with gaim
[04:31] <bettong_BOFH> sorry to bother you all but i emailed the manurfacturer of my mainboard and he showed me a linux driver for my soundcard and i installed it and now it's broke how do i remove the driver?
[04:31] <norki> not with the version that came with the breezy dvd tho
[04:31] <norki> 1.5 something
[04:31] <bettong_BOFH> i can provide any info that you need please help
[04:31] <MrFarts> norki, sure it does
[04:31] <MrFarts> norki,  i have the same version
[04:32] <norki> nope
[04:32] <bz0b> cafuego: hey, do you know why my xdm pretends to start, then it like dies, and then i have to manually startx
[04:32] <norki> MrFarts: heh ya well where do you add yer custom emoticons then?
[04:32] <senthil> mustard5, I'm not able to play any video clips directly from mozilla
[04:32] <MrFarts> norki, tools ->preferences -> interface -> smiley themes
[04:32] <kakei> sethk : check PM
[04:32] <Absolute0> ive installed msttcorefonts, how do i use them now?
[04:32] <Absolute0> when i got to setting->fonts its not coming up
[04:32] <Absolute0> should i reboot?
[04:32] <mustard5> senthil, try installing mozplugger
[04:32] <senthil>  I'm not able to play any video clips directly from mozilla
[04:32] <mustard5> senthil, using apt-get
[04:32] <senthil> mustard5, howz to install
[04:33] <norki> MrFarts: those aren't custom emoticons. if you send one of those to a msn user, he will se his own emoticon set
[04:33] <mustard5> senthil, sudo apt-get install mozplugger
[04:33] <MrFarts> norki, doesn't it always work like that ? :)
[04:33] <MrFarts> norki, emoticons are just text
[04:33] <MrFarts> as far as i know
[04:33] <bz0b> anyone here run xdm?
[04:33] <MrFarts> bz0b, xdm or gdm ?
[04:33] <SweetestSavage> MrFarts, no MSN doesn't work like that
[04:33] <norki> no, you can add your own gif file, and the reciever will see that pic
[04:33] <bz0b> MrFarts: xdm
[04:33] <norki> can even be animated gif
[04:34] <MrFarts> bz0b, no, why would you want to run xdm ? :)
[04:34] <MrFarts> xdm is sort of ugly
[04:34] <kakei> sethk please check Private
[04:34] <bz0b> MrFarts: GNOME is ugly
[04:34] <norki> what's the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[04:34] <bz0b> hey nalioth, remember me?
[04:34] <nalioth> bz0b: howdy
[04:34] <bz0b> nalioth: hey
[04:34] <MrFarts> bz0b, kdm ? :)
[04:35] <bz0b> MrFarts: I want to keep my whole system X theme, like i am running xubuntu right now, and i dont want to use gdm or kdm to throw off the theme, sorry, i am just picky like that
[04:35] <MrFarts> bz0b, well use xdm then :)
[04:35] <MrFarts> it's hardly difficult to setup :)
[04:35] <Darkhack> is ndiswrapper not included in Dapper Flight2?  I've looked everywhere for it?
[04:36] <bz0b> MrFarts: Well I installed it
[04:36] <bz0b> via apt-get
[04:36] <Badm4n> what is the packages name of dydns.com
[04:36] <Badm4n> apt-get install ............
[04:36] <bz0b> MrFarts: but like when i try to reboot, and have it start, it like shows me a pic of my last login, and then die
[04:36] <bz0b> dies*
[04:37] <sethk> bz0b, that must have been one ugly login
[04:37] <Darkhack> so much for "better wireless support"... talk about no wireless support at all :p
[04:37] <robotgeek> Darkhack: it's better than it was a year ago :)
[04:37] <bz0b> sethk: :-)
[04:37] <robotgeek> Darkhack: which card are you using?
[04:38] <Darkhack> my card works robotgeek, its just ndiswrapper is not on the Dapper Flight2 CD
[04:38] <Badm4n> what is the packages name of dydns.com
[04:38] <Milk_> Anyone here good with dvdauthor?  I'm getting an error regarding aspect ratio
[04:38] <Badm4n> apt-get install ............
[04:38] <bz0b> MrFarts: What i meant to say was it showed me a pic of my last session, like i saw my wallpaper, and my terminal open
[04:38] <Darkhack> badm4n, try "apt-cache search dydns"  that will search for the term dydns
[04:39] <Darkhack> and tell the package name if it finds it
[04:39] <darkness> Does anyone know where i can find a copy of the apache2.conf? I kinda stuffed mine up and i want it back to how it was.
[04:39] <firefly[Laptop] > hey. can anyone point me to a good sources.list to use?
[04:39] <pro> i dont have any problems with my audio but mplayer, i cant hear anything and i always get an error about it
[04:39] <bz0b> anyone have any idea of what i am talking about?
[04:39] <Milk_> anybody? this dvdauthoring thing has been an absolute horror
[04:40] <Badm4n> none
[04:40] <Badm4n> Darkhack, the result none
[04:40] <Badm4n> i need to remove my dydns.org system
[04:40] <sethk> bz0b, the part about the picture of your last session I can explain
[04:40] <Darkhack> I don't know what the say then.  Try other search terms.  like a description
[04:41] <darkness> Does anyone know where i can find a copy of the apache2.conf? I kinda stuffed mine up and i want it back to how it was.
[04:41] <bz0b> sethk: why its not starting X, can you explain that?
[04:41] <GURT> i can't get the cd/dvd drive icons off fo my desktop.. there is no media in either drives.. can someone tell me how to get them to disapear untill i put media in them again?
[04:41] <sethk> bz0b, we have to look at your X log file to determine that
[04:41] <Milk_> is there a way to define aspect ratio with dvdauthor or with mpeg2enc?
[04:41] <bz0b> want me to post it to a paste bin?
[04:41] <pro> so, can someone help me please?
[04:41] <bz0b> if you tell me the path to it, i will post it
[04:42] <Darkhack> is ndiswrapper not in Dapper or is it just broken in this release?
[04:42] <slashx1896> hey.. its not letting me unblock people on gaim.. lol
[04:42] <sethk> bz0b, /var/log/xorg.0.log,  or possibly /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:42] <Milk_> pro, whats the error dude?
[04:43] <pro> Milk_, well i dont have any problems with my audio but mplayer, i cant hear anything and i always get an error about it
[04:43] <darkness> Would re-installing apache change the configuration file back to how it originally was? Before i changed it?
[04:43] <CloudCover> Hello all :)
[04:43] <kakei> sethk : didnt reboot in init 1
[04:44] <Milk_> pro, again, WHATS THE ERROR
[04:44] <bz0b> sethk: here you go, http://pastebin.com/472645
[04:44] <pro> Milk_, sorry, didnt know u already read me... itsays "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound."
[04:44] <Dattas> i got a question, how do you add users in terminal? i tried user useradd but i think i got the syntax wrong, an example would be greatly appreciated
[04:45] <bz0b> Dattas: adduser or useradd
[04:45] <CloudCover> Er... need a bit of help.. I'm a total Newb. I just installed the i386 version and now X wont start. said that i have to modify GDM or something. I think it may be to do with my ATI X800 card. Was wondering how to fix it as i am stuck with command line :)
[04:45] <Milk_> pro, do you have sound elsewhere?
[04:46] <Milk_> anyone famaliar with tovid or qdvdauthor?
[04:46] <pro> Milk_, yes, i can use xmms and stuff, but i dont know why my mplayer cant
[04:46] <Dattas> bz0b, Thanks adduser is what i was looking for
[04:46] <CloudCover> Read through  a lot of forum msgs about FGLRX, but i not sure if that is my problem... anyway i can force X to use just plain vesa mode?
[04:46] <bz0b> Dattas: don't worry about it
[04:47] <Milk_> pro, have you checked the settings to make sure you have a driver selected?  are you running any other programs at the same time?
[04:47] <pro> Milk_, yeah, im not that noob :P
[04:47] <LincTeK> Hey Pro .. do you have Totem installed ? I think there was something about mplayer and totem having problems
[04:48] <lisi> can yuo tell me where is Ubuntu Translators channel?
[04:48] <pro> LincTeK, yes i have it, should i quit it?
[04:48] <Milk_> pro, I hate to ask, but you've checked the forums and wiki right?
[04:48] <bz0b> sethk: get anything out of that file?
[04:49] <sethk> bz0b, haven't looked yet, sorry, wait a moment.
[04:49] <bz0b> sure
[04:49] <Dattas> what is the file that is read for automatic mount?
[04:49] <cmatheson> Dattas: file-systems are described in /etc/fstab
[04:49] <LincTeK> I think in the ubuntu wiki had the info .. It was for mplayer not woking right in firefox when totem is installed also
[04:50] <pro> Milk_, yeah, i just downloaded another audio driver named alsa and im trying with it but no success
[04:50] <senthil> I need a help. I can Open my windows fat filesystem. but i can see my windows NTFS filesystem icon but i'm not able to open
[04:50] <senthil> I need a help. I can Open my windows fat filesystem. but i can see my windows NTFS filesystem icon but i'm not able to open
[04:50] <Milk_> pro, you have totem open?
[04:51] <emptystapler> is there some samba server GUI for gnome?
[04:51] <MrFarts> senthil, perhaps if your question was more lucid someone would attempt to answer it
[04:51] <regeya> repetition will not get a faster answer repetition will not get a faster answer
[04:51] <pro> Milk_, nope i dont use it....
[04:51] <emptystapler> there's no way to enable anonymous accounts that i can find through the stock ubuntu installation
[04:51] <bimberi> emptystapler: System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[04:51] <sethk> bz0b, the X log looks normal.  How about /var/log/messages?
[04:51] <emptystapler> bimberi: that doesn't allow you to grant public access to folders
[04:51] <Milk_> pro LincTeK, yes i have it, should i quit it?
[04:52] <bimberi> emptystapler: no, i answered part 1 of your Q :)
[04:52] <pro> Milk_, i have it, but not opened....
[04:52] <bimberi> emptystapler: unsure about part 2 sorry :|
[04:52] <M_Cheevy> mustard: no luck.. reconfigured hal, hotplug and totem, same problems persist..... can't eject and no visible mount points
[04:52] <emptystapler> bimberi: oh, sorry :) i have that much done. i just would like a GUI to administrate the smb server settings
[04:52] <pro> Milk_, and i just uninstalled it
[04:52] <Dattas> k last question for a while, how do i link a folder to another? or make it look like a folder is in /home/usrnm bit the folder is really /stor
[04:52] <Milk_> pro, what DO you have open?
[04:52] <cmatheson>  Dattas: ln -s
[04:52] <senthil> I can access my windows fat32 file system but not windows NTFS filesystem from Ubuntu linux
[04:53] <bz0b> sethk: http://pastebin.com/472651
[04:53] <senthil> I can access my windows fat32 file system but not windows NTFS filesystem from Ubuntu linux
[04:53] <senthil> I can access my windows fat32 file system but not windows NTFS filesystem from Ubuntu linux
[04:53] <bimberi> emptystapler: i've heard of (but never used) "swat"
[04:53] <pro> Milk_, ....lol, nothing that uses the audio
[04:53] <Dattas> ahhh -s was all i was missing, thanks again cmatheson
[04:53] <cmatheson> Dattas: np
[04:53] <senthil> I can access my windows fat32 file system but not windows NTFS filesystem from Ubuntu linux
[04:53] <bimberi> senthil: enough! - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:54] <Milk_> pro, have you checked your system monitor to ensure theres nothing in the background?
[04:54] <pro> Milk_, yes lol
[04:54] <senthil> bimberi, i tried this steps already but its not working ;-(
[04:54] <Milk_> pro, whats so funny?
[04:54] <ubuntu> jiji
[04:54] <ubuntu> quien es latino
[04:55] <pro> Milk_, man, i appreciate ur help but u are asking me things like im a noob.... obviously im not guru but i know that i dont have ANY other programs and that's NOT the problem
[04:55] <bimberi> senthil: ok, what do you mean by "can access"? read-only? read-but-not-write?
[04:56] <Milk_> pro, well, I guess its aparent that you don't need help, since your such a newbie lol
[04:56] <taojah> hello can someone please help me with a super noob question
[04:56] <Milk_> I'm still looking for help with qdvdauthor if anyone has time!
[04:56] <LincTeK> hey pro did you try the asamixer command in the terminal
[04:56] <taojah> To load a new theme, download the .theme file into ~/.irssi
[04:56] <pro> Milk_, pfft, ok man, it's ok, if u dont want to "help" me it's fine...
[04:56] <LincTeK> alsamixer
[04:56] <taojah> what does that mean, how do i do
[04:57] <senthil> bimberi, I can read and write my windows Fat32 file system but not NTFS
[04:57] <pro> LincTeK, negative
[04:57] <Milk_> pro, you need to be willing to accept help, not shun it if you ever want help in this kind of a format...
[04:57] <cmatheson> senthil: afaik you can't write to ntfs in linux
[04:57] <bimberi> senthil: ntfs is read-only
[04:57] <senthil> bimberi, For NTFS Filesystem its not even open
[04:57] <LincTeK> open terminal and i believe the command is "alsamixer"
[04:57] <senthil> bimberi, i knew NTFS is read only
[04:57] <LincTeK> should pop up a eq looking box
[04:58] <bimberi> senthil: ok, so it's not mounting?
[04:58] <M_Cheevy> heya folks.. having a bit of problem with the automounting of cds & dvds.... 1) once mounted, I can't seem to eject them, and 2) they appear nowhere in mtab so I can't use Totem or DVDRip with them... anyone familiar with this and found a solution.. all google gives me is crap about the css2 libs
[04:58] <senthil> bimberi, but i'm not even able to read.
[04:58] <pro> LincTeK, yep, i opened it
[04:58] <LincTeK> is all the sound levels up
[04:58] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: you need to unmount them before you can eject them... as far as totem and mplayer are concerned i'm not sure
[04:58] <senthil> bimberi, Its mounted when i attempt to open the mounted NTFS partition it opened Fat32 filesystem
[04:58] <LincTeK> and none of em muted
[04:59] <bimberi> senthil: wow, ok - put the output from "mount" on a pastebin ...
[04:59] <bimberi> !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:59] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: everytime I tried, I'm told there is nothing in mtab for it to unmount from.  btw, mplayer works fine, it can deal with the dvd:// or media://hda schema
[05:00] <senthil> bimberi, pastebin ????
[05:00] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: if it's not in your mtab then it's not mounted...
[05:00] <riskbreaker> this is probably a huge n00b question, but, what package do i have to install to switch to KDE?
[05:00] <pro> LincTeK, nope =( i guess the prob it's with my audio drivers.... you know that you can choose 4 audio drivers on mplayer but no one it's works for me
[05:00] <bimberi> senthil: see the post from ubotu above
[05:00] <cmatheson> riskbreaker: kubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <LincTeK> ah it was worth a try
[05:01] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: I'd say so too, but it's in my drive, on my desktop and I can access it using any number of applications that can deal with the "media://hda" location
[05:01] <senthil> bimberi, alright
[05:01] <LincTeK> pro what sound card are u useing ?
[05:01] <riskbreaker> so, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:01] <bimberi> riskbreaker: n00b but not huge :)
[05:01] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: and the eject button on the front of the drive is disabled
[05:01] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: if you type 'ls /media/cdrom do you see the files that are on the cd?
[05:01] <riskbreaker> i thought that was the package i needed, but it doesn't show up in synaptic for some reason.
[05:01] <bimberi> riskbreaker: yes
[05:02] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: no such file or directory
[05:02] <bz0b> sethk: any ideas
[05:02] <riskbreaker> and now that i tried apt-get, it just gave me this message: E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <sethk> bz0b, did you see my message about looking at other log files?
[05:02] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: you don't have a /media/cdrom?
[05:02] <bimberi> riskbreaker: then you probably don't have any internet repositories enabled ...
[05:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell riskbreaker about repos
[05:03] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: do ls /media
[05:03] <bz0b> sethk: you mean the /var/log/messages
[05:03] <sethk> bz0b, right.  I didn't see your answer
[05:03] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: nope, remedy-ing that now and change the /etc/fstab to mount the /dev/hda stuff there...
[05:03] <sethk> bz0b, too many messages flying by
[05:03] <riskbreaker> i know about respositories... i'm looking at my sources.list and it doesn't seem like anything is out of the ordinary
[05:03] <bz0b> sethk: http://pastebin.com/472651
[05:03] <pro> LincTeK, how can i see the exact name of the card? any command? cuz i just know it's SoundBlaster
[05:03] <sethk> bz0b, 0k, let me look
[05:03] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: /media has hda and hdc in it.
[05:03] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: ok.  why is it /dev/hda? is your hard-drive scsi or sata or something?
[05:04] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: yeap. sata raid 0 through dmraid
[05:04] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: oh ok
[05:04] <LincTeK> pro i forgot the directory it is in ..im not on my linux box at the moment
[05:04] <bimberi> riskbreaker: ok, but are they commented out (with '#'s)
[05:04] <sethk> bz0b, not much there at all.  The last thing, MARK, indicates that the network interface crashed
[05:04] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: should that be /media/cdrom or /media/dvd?
[05:05] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: hmm, either one will work, but i guess if it's a dvd player you could put it in dvd (i always just do cdrom)
[05:05] <riskbreaker> the only commented line that isn't actually a comment is "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[05:05] <riskbreaker> " and the deb-src counterpart
[05:05] <bz0b> oh, well. my internet works
[05:05] <sethk> bz0b, do you know what changed to trigger this problem?
[05:05] <cmatheson> M_Cheevy: the name isn't so important... you could call it foobar if you wanted, but i think the default is just cdrom
[05:05] <bz0b> sethk: what problem?
[05:05] <pro> LincTeK, oh it's ok, but.... what else can the problem be? the rest of the programs works good with the audio except mplayer
[05:06] <sethk> bz0b, your machine not running?
[05:06] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: will try cdrom first as that maybe what the automounter is assuming, failing that will try /media/dvd
[05:06] <M_Cheevy> bbiab
[05:06] <bz0b> sethk: yes it is
[05:06] <dean1> My computer will get powered-off w/out shutdown.   Is there a way I can avoid the 2 reboots necessary to get back to my standard video resolution?!?
[05:06] <bimberi> riskbreaker: ok, can you paste sources.list to the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:06] <bz0b> sethk: i am on it right now
[05:06] <sethk> bz0b, you are having a problem, right?
[05:06] <bz0b> sethk: with my xdm starting up at boot up
[05:07] <sethk> bz0b, we aren't looking at your log files out of idle curiousity
[05:07] <sethk> bz0b, right
[05:07] <riskbreaker> yeah, just a sec
[05:07] <sethk> bz0b, so, what changed between the time when xdm started correctly, and when it got messed up?
[05:07] <bz0b> sethk: excuse me? what does that last thing mean "idle curiosity"?
[05:08] <bz0b> sethk: xdm never started correctly
[05:08] <bz0b> sethk: it acted like it was, then it just went back to CLI
[05:08] <sethk> bz0b, it's a new installation?
[05:08] <bz0b> sethk: yes
[05:08] <sethk> bz0b, oh, I thought it had been working and stopped working.
[05:09] <bz0b> sethk: no, it never worked in the first place
[05:09] <sethk> bz0b, in that case, let's try using gdm instead of xdm
[05:09] <riskbreaker> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5980
[05:09] <GURT> i can't get the cd/dvd drive icons off fo my desktop.. there is no media in either drives.. can someone tell me how to get them to disapear untill i put media in them again?
[05:09] <bz0b> sethk: i would use gdm, and i know it would work, its just that i wanted to try and get xdm to work
[05:09] <sethk> bz0b, ok
[05:09] <LincTeK> hey pro try to uninstall totem
[05:09] <bz0b> sethk: do you thing you could still help me?
[05:09] <sethk> bz0b, xdm's configuration files are more cryptic
[05:10] <kakei> sethk check Pm =)
[05:10] <bz0b> sethk: how so?
[05:10] <sethk> bz0b, they just seem less intuitive to me.  I do have one machine here that is using xdm
[05:10] <bz0b> sethk: is it hard to setup?
[05:10] <sethk> bz0b, no, not terribly hard.
[05:11] <sethk> bz0b, a bit more difficult than gdm, but certainly doable
[05:11] <pro> LincTeK, ok..... done and got the same problem with mplayer =( btw, im using the OSS driver
[05:11] <bz0b> sethk: would you be able to tell me what i would have to start in doing? or any tutorials in setting it up?
[05:11] <bimberi> riskbreaker: ok there's a line missing, copy line 3 and remove "-src" from the copy
[05:11] <aurynn_u> why is the bugtracker so insanely slow?
[05:11] <Eleaf> HI!
[05:12] <Eleaf> I need help with my nfs
[05:12] <sethk> bz0b, I would download xdm from the xorg website, and start by using the configuration files supplied with that distribution.
[05:12] <bz0b> instead of using the pre-compiled package from apt-get?
[05:12] <Eleaf> I had nfs up and working perfectly, it was very lovely.  I didn't change any settings or anything after that...
[05:13] <Eleaf> Then a few days later,
[05:13] <Eleaf> I have one of my other computers try to access my nfs share
[05:13] <bz0b> sethk: so should I apt-get remove xdm and then go get the src and compile it, and try it that way
[05:13] <riskbreaker> bimberi: oh wow, that's pretty huge, i don't know why that happened or why i missed it
[05:13] <pro> LincTeK, im trying to use this conf on the conf file http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/mplayer.conf_mplayer
[05:13] <sethk> bz0b, no, to start with
[05:13] <Eleaf> but it says "Permission Denied"
[05:13] <sethk> bz0b, just copy in the configuration files from the distribution.
[05:13] <bimberi> riskbreaker: yes, a bit mysterious.  A stray "dd" in vi? :)
[05:14] <Eleaf> It does this even if I try to connect to the nfs locally
[05:14] <Eleaf> on the computer hosting the nfs
[05:14] <riskbreaker> vi?
[05:14] <sethk> bz0b, I don't think there is anything wrong with the binaries.  I can't be sure, of course, but it's an educated guess
[05:14] <Eleaf> the thing I found out though
[05:14] <Eleaf> is that my router oddly changed from 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.45.100
[05:14] <Eleaf> now every computer has an ip of 192.168.45.xxx
[05:14] <riskbreaker> ok, the package is now downloading, so i'm pretty sure that solved my problem, thanks for the assistance
[05:14] <Eleaf> I updated these changes to allow connections from the computers with the new .45. ip
[05:15] <bimberi> riskbreaker: it's an editor
[05:15] <bimberi> riskbreaker: np :)
[05:15] <Eleaf> but the problem still persists
[05:15] <riskbreaker> ah
[05:15] <riskbreaker> i use nano most of the time, so i didn't recognize vi
[05:15] <Eleaf> I have the hosts.allow to accept the new ip's but it still doesn't work!
[05:15] <Eleaf> help!
[05:15] <bz0b> does anyone here by any chance know the xdm home page?
[05:15] <Eleaf> lol
[05:15] <pro> LincTeK, damn, didnt work =(
[05:16] <LincTeK> pro u running breezy
[05:17] <pro> LincTeK, nope.... i guess, why?
[05:17] <bz0b> sethk: do you think the runlevel i have my initdefault set to can conflict with xdm starting up?
[05:17] <cmatheson> bz0b: ubuntu doesn't use runlevels
[05:17] <LincTeK> that guide was for 5.04 hoary
[05:17] <bz0b> cmatheson: oh, well then, hmm
[05:18] <azuron> How to use Xdmx in Ubuntu? I have installed it
[05:19] <LincTeK> pro, did you install all the multimedia codecs ?
[05:19] <pro> LincTeK, yeah..... i downloaded them from the page
[05:19] <pro> LincTeK, essential-20050412.tar.bz2
[05:21] <bz0b> can i change the background to gdm?
[05:21] <cmatheson> bz0b: yeah, it's in the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[05:22] <bz0b> i just said screw xdm
[05:22] <bz0b> hmm, now to pick a background for gdm
[05:23] <azuron> Help, anyone knows how to use Xdmx under Ubuntu? I have installed it from universe! Thanks!!!
[05:25] <sethk> cmatheson, /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[05:26] <poningru> how do you do a netsend?
[05:26] <sethk> poningru, boot windows
[05:26] <cmatheson> sethk: not on my box...
[05:26] <sethk> cmatheson, on mine, I just checked two
[05:26] <poningru> sethk: sorry cant do
[05:26] <poningru> dont have one
[05:26] <sethk> cmatheson, ah, there are links
[05:26] <sethk> cmatheson, sorry about that
[05:26] <SAM_theman> hey guys
[05:26] <SAM_theman> got a question
[05:26] <sethk> cmatheson, either one works
[05:27] <SAM_theman> i want to removal kde how i do that?
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> hmm... Kopete crapped on me. Haven't had Kopete five days and it already busts. Gaim on the other hand Ive had for six months... never a crapper.
[05:27] <SAM_theman> i want to do afresh install
[05:27] <Eleaf> sudo apt-get remove kde
[05:27] <SAM_theman> lol
[05:27] <Eleaf> or maybe kde-desktop
[05:28] <Eleaf> but kde-desktop might not work
[05:28] <SAM_theman> nope
[05:28] <SAM_theman> both didn't
[05:28] <Eleaf> really?
[05:28] <SAM_theman> yup
[05:28] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop
[05:28] <SAM_theman> Reading package lists... Done
[05:28] <SAM_theman> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:28] <SAM_theman> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[05:28] <rhayes> when you download the mplayer codecs pack where do you extract it to?
[05:28] <LincTeK> pro, I would to try useing synaptec and search mplayer and make sure u are at the latest level for your system
[05:28] <cmatheson> sethk: that's cool
[05:28] <Eleaf> SAM_theman, have you been able to install things using apt-get before?
[05:29] <SAM_theman> Yup
[05:29] <SAM_theman> games!!!!
[05:29] <pro> LincTeK, ok man, thanks a lot for your help
[05:29] <cmatheson> SAM_theman: kubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <Eleaf> sorry
[05:29] <LincTeK> no problem
[05:29] <Eleaf> cmatheson, I forgot = p
[05:29] <cmatheson> Eleaf: ok
[05:29] <SAM_theman> After unpacking 36.9kB disk space will be freed.
[05:29] <SAM_theman> ?
[05:29] <Eleaf> it's just a dependency package
[05:29] <SAM_theman> i mean every thing!!!
[05:30] <Eleaf> remove kde should work
[05:30] <Eleaf> what does it say when you do sudo apt-get remove kde ?
[05:30] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ sudo apt-get remove kde
[05:30] <SAM_theman> Reading package lists... Done
[05:30] <SAM_theman> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:30] <SAM_theman> Package kde is not installed, so not removed
[05:30] <SAM_theman> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[05:30] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$
[05:30] <Eleaf> are you sure that kde is installed then?
[05:30] <regeya> YAY SCRIBUS SIG11's ON IMAGE IMPORT
[05:30] <SweetestSavage> Question, what other GUI's are out there? I like GNOME and all.. but I'd like to see all my available options =)
[05:30] <SAM_theman> yes
[05:30] <SAM_theman> srry for spam so srry
[05:31] <bz0b> can someone tell me where I can download themes for gdm?
[05:31] <SAM_theman> gnome-look.org
[05:31] <SAM_theman> www.gnome-look.org
[05:31] <drcode> hi all
[05:31] <SAM_theman> yo
[05:31] <drcode> if I have to NIC and thay are the same NIC , I need to load there module twice?
[05:32] <Madpilot> !themes
[05:32] <drcode> also how thay know that NIC1 eth0 and NIC 2 ETH1?
[05:32] <Madpilot> !tell bz0b about themes
[05:32] <Eleaf> SAM_theman, sudo apt-get remove kde-core ?
[05:32] <SAM_theman> After unpacking 81.9kB disk space will be freed.
[05:32] <SAM_theman> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[05:32] <SAM_theman> ?
[05:32] <starpause> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 and the network isn't working. when i do a lspci i see the nic listed but no where else ... advice?
[05:33] <Eleaf> starpause, go to System, Administration, Networking, select eth0 and click activate
[05:33] <b00gz>  When I do make install it says cannot find linux sources ... Can someone please assist me with fixing this
[05:34] <LincTeK> pro , ck this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[05:34] <starpause> Eleaf: it doesn't show up there
[05:34] <Eleaf> starpause, first go into the Ethernet connections properties and click enable this connection
[05:34] <Eleaf> oh
[05:34] <Eleaf> starpause, it doesn't say Ethernet connection?
[05:34] <Eleaf> and then Modem connection..
[05:34] <nurfe> what is the source and package address configurations for marillat is it deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html         ?
[05:35] <starpause> Eleaf: no, only the modem connection is showing up
[05:35] <Eleaf> ah I see..
[05:35] <b00gz>  When I do make install it says cannot find linux sources ... Can someone please assist me with fixing this "Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build;"
[05:35] <Eleaf> hmmm
[05:36] <DrTiger> hi! How can I activate the secondary screen output of my laptop?
[05:36] <starpause> Eleaf: actually, it might not be supported ... it's a wireless card and i'm not seeing the chipset at http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[05:36] <SAM_theman> wtf kde packages still work
[05:36] <starpause> Eleaf: i have a wired card that was showing up like you described, let me put that in =)
[05:37] <robotgeek> b00gz: what are you trying to compile?
[05:37] <b00gz> ndiswrapper
[05:37] <robotgeek> b00gz: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:37] <frogzoo> DrTiger: nvidia or ati?
[05:37] <Madpilot> SAM_theman: you can run KDE apps on Gnome (and vice versa) without problems...
[05:38] <SAM_theman> well i want to do a fresh install of kde
[05:38] <SAM_theman> i want every last KDE based thing gone!
[05:38] <b00gz> robotgeek: what does that command do?
[05:38] <Eleaf> starpause, Alright! sounds good
[05:39] <robotgeek> b00gz: install kernel headers, and install a compiler and stuff
[05:40] <Eleaf> SAM_theman, sudo apt-get remove kde should work...
[05:40] <SAM_theman> tried that
[05:40] <theblue> If I have a 64-bit computer, can I run the normal 32-bit Ubuntu on it as well?
[05:40] <b00gz> robotgeek: by default Ubuntu doesn't install a C compiler?
[05:40] <Eleaf> theblue, I believe so.
[05:40] <robotgeek> b00gz: no
[05:40] <theblue> Eleaf: Ok, thanks.
[05:40] <b00gz> robotgeek: explains a lot THANKS!
[05:41] <robotgeek> b00gz: no problem, those packages are available on the install cd as well
[05:41] <b00gz> robotgeek: how do I install packages off of the CD?
[05:41] <Eleaf> b00gz, sudo apt-get install build-essential ahs some basic compile packages
[05:42] <pro> LincTeK, so... do you think that program may solve the problem?
[05:42] <robotgeek> b00gz: put the cd in, it should actually ask you what you want to do :)
[05:42] <Eleaf> starpause, did that work?
[05:42] <flodine> can someone tell me what xft and does snaptic has it
[05:42] <LincTeK> yeah easy way to get alot of packages for multimedia and stuff... I have not used it myself tho
[05:43] <b00gz> robotgeek: I don't get an option :)
[05:43] <robotgeek> b00gz: hmm, okay. anyways, just put the cd in, and install using synaptic
[05:43] <robotgeek> b00gz: i think i got confused with dapper :)
[05:43] <nickrud> SAM_theman, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt , try that
[05:44] <b00gz> robotgeek: Synaptic vs Apt-Get differences?
[05:44] <SAM_theman> ok
[05:44] <wells> exit
[05:44] <SAM_theman> they are the same
[05:44] <flodine> does snaptic have xft files
[05:44] <SAM_theman> apt is text based
[05:44] <SAM_theman> synaptic is the gui display of apt
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> are there any complications between transferring files through a Wins AIM/Trillian and LInux's Gaim ?
[05:45] <SAM_theman> THERE we go!!!
[05:45] <SAM_theman> After unpacking 415MB disk space will be freed.
[05:45] <chapium> CaptainMorgan, only the complication of it not working half the time
[05:45] <SAM_theman> thanks
[05:45] <sklav> hi guys
[05:45] <pro> LincTeK, i'll send you a private message with the text i got while trying to play a mp3 from terminal
[05:45] <chapium> hi
[05:46] <sklav> does aanybody know if ubuntu has i686 specific packages?
[05:46] <LincTeK> ok
[05:46] <LaptopZZ> I am trying to change the mixer that my keyboard function keys change. Anyone know how?
[05:47] <starpause> E?: i got the interface active but i'm not connecting to anthing
[05:47] <pro> LincTeK, did you get it? i ask cuz my nick isnt registered
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> chapium, it goes to transfer.. then cancels with no warning..
[05:47] <kestas> I cant use /dev/net/tun as a virtual interface card because it's chmod 600 and owned by root
[05:48] <kestas> are there any security risks with chmod 666 /dev/net/tun ?
[05:48] <plastic9mm> im already intimidated
[05:48] <plastic9mm> is this the ubuntu support area?
[05:48] <LincTeK> no not here
[05:48] <Madpilot> plastic9mm: it is, and it's not that scary (usually)
[05:48] <plastic9mm> heh
[05:48] <plastic9mm> linux is very new to me
[05:48] <SweetestSavage> Linux is new to me too, plastic9mm ;)
[05:49] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  Yes it is. If you have any questions please ask them.
[05:49] <plastic9mm> anyone know much about wirless USB adapters and ndis wrapper/.
[05:49] <plastic9mm> erm
[05:49] <plastic9mm> ndiswrapper?
[05:49] <Eleaf> starpause, is it supposed to connect to the internet? or is it working fine?
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> plastic9mm, LInux loves Capt
[05:49] <mrkoje> ubotu tell plastic9mm about wifi
[05:49] <plastic9mm> well, I'm having a problem
[05:50] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  there is a nice wiki page about that set up. Have you looked at it yet>
[05:50] <plastic9mm> i have
[05:50] <SAM_theman> what the command to select gdm as default?
[05:50] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  so whats up then?
[05:50] <plastic9mm> it applies for the Linksys WUSB 11v2.6 adapet
[05:50] <LincTeK> pro, u using mplayer to play mp3's
[05:50] <plastic9mm> but i need help with the WUSB11v4
[05:50] <chapium> CaptainMorgan, gaim has issues with other clients.  It works with some, not with others
[05:50] <plastic9mm> i have searched the forums and seen success, but noone tells how
[05:50] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  with ndiswrapper>?
[05:51] <starpause> Eleaf: it wasn't connecting. ...  i just rebooted, out of old habit =\
[05:51] <plastic9mm> im trying to use ndiswrapper to install the windows driver using the inf file
[05:51] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  right
[05:51] <plastic9mm> but it appears the 1.1 that shows up in synaptic isnt the right versiopn
[05:51] <pro> LincTeK, no, i use xmms, i just did that for testing
[05:51] <plastic9mm> i need 1.5 or higher it appears
[05:51] <LincTeK> ah i see
[05:51] <plastic9mm> but i dont know how to install it
[05:52] <LincTeK> pro , u useing the latest version of mplayer
[05:52] <plastic9mm> i can download the .tar file but then, well... again im a bit green
[05:52] <pro> LincTeK, yes sir
[05:52] <plastic9mm> my device is seen, but not with any specifics
[05:52] <DRAGON_Ultra> hate tar ball
[05:52] <sethk> plastic9mm, extract from the tar file, go to the directory, do ./configure, make, make install
[05:52] <sethk> plastic9mm, usually you'll have to do:   sudo make install
[05:52] <b00gz> robotgeek: when I run apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) I am getting timeouts I tried to do apt-get update but still not working properly.
[05:52] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  don't do that yet.
[05:53] <plastic9mm> ok
[05:53] <SAM_theman> its gone
[05:53] <plastic9mm> oh ok
[05:53] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  first read a tutorial on configuring software
[05:53] <LincTeK> pro , u running Breezy
[05:53] <pro> LincTeK, nope
[05:53] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  that way you know "kinda" what your doing and why your doing it....
[05:53] <robotgeek> b00gz: do you have internet?
[05:53] <LincTeK> Warty ?
[05:53] <plastic9mm> chekcing the wiki now
[05:53] <plastic9mm> but think i have a more important problem to solve first
[05:53] <b00gz> robotgeek: I am talking to you aren't I :)
[05:53] <plastic9mm> getting ubuntu to identify the device
[05:54] <dougsko> how can i get my usb ports to work, on a compaq presario laptop?
[05:54] <plastic9mm> i have no vendor ID and the like
[05:54] <b00gz> robotgeek: I just attempted it again and it went through =/
[05:54] <robotgeek> b00gz: hmm, nice
[05:54] <dougsko> they simply dont do anything when i plug something in
[05:54] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  type   lsusb in the shell
[05:54] <starpause> Eleaf: still no luck
[05:54] <b00gz> robotgeek:  *** No rule to make target `Wlan'.  Stop.
[05:54] <b00gz> when I did make install now
[05:55] <plastic9mm> do i post the results?
[05:55] <starpause> Eleaf: but "The interface eth0 is active"
[05:55] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:55] <Eleaf> hmmm
[05:55] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:55] <Kaltherz> Hi !!
[05:55] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  goto #flood and post them if its lenghty otherwise a couple lines here is ok
[05:55] <Madpilot> plastic9mm: see ubotu a few lines up
[05:55] <lysis> hi everyone
[05:55] <Gecko> Hey, does anyone know what the descriptive name for CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG is? I can't find it in make menuconfig
[05:55] <robotgeek> b00gz: cause there probably isn't one
[05:56] <plastic9mm> is 4 lines ok?
[05:56] <b00gz> robotgeek: Then I get *** [default]  Error 2 then install error 2 and it stops ?
[05:56] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  ya i think so
[05:56] <robotgeek> b00gz: you also need gcc-3.4, sigh
[05:56] <Gecko> Also, I am on ubuntu ia32 based distro, is it safe to select my cpu as an amd64 in kernel setup, because, that's what it is?
[05:56] <plastic9mm> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 054c:0056 Sony Corp.
[05:56] <plastic9mm> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[05:56] <plastic9mm> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 13b1:000b
[05:56] <plastic9mm> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[05:57] <mrkoje> plastic9mm,  ok
[05:57] <b00gz> robotgeek: I did apt-get gcc and it says I am up to date?
[05:57] <robotgeek> b00gz: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:57] <Eleaf> starpause, try pinging your router
[05:57] <Eleaf> ping 192.168.1.100 maybe?
[05:57] <Kaltherz> someone can give me an answer ?
[05:57] <b00gz> robotgeek: lol whats gcc vs gcc-3.4?
[05:57] <Kaltherz> it about compile
[05:57] <kakei> hey robotgeek
[05:57] <kakei> can u help me ?
[05:57] <robotgeek> b00gz: you need gcc-3.4 for kernel stuff, you already have gcc-4.0
[05:58] <kakei> i deleted my Kicker(bar) stuff
[05:58] <chapium> b00gz, some software needs to be comppiled with 3.4 instead of 4
[05:58] <LincTeK> pro, try this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[05:58] <starpause> Eleaf: i've got a belkin, at 182.168.2.1 ... it give "connect: Network is unreachable"
[05:58] <robotgeek> kakei: hmm, no clue. sorry
[05:58] <b00gz> I have both install now and it still is not working =/ Same error
[05:58] <Eleaf> ok
[05:58] <Eleaf> starpause type ifconfig in a terminal
[05:59] <starpause> Eleaf: what am i looking for
[05:59] <Eleaf> starpause, where it says eth0, then inet addr: type what it says there
[05:59] <Eleaf> near the top
[05:59] <chapium> starpause,  read the guide that comes with the router carefully, make sure you are connecting to it, reboot your computer, reset router to factory defaults...
[05:59] <fireflys> helloo
[05:59] <chapium> check cables :D
[05:59] <fireflys> :)
[05:59] <b00gz> robotgeek chapium: I have both installed now and it still is not working =/ Same error
[06:00] <robotgeek> b00gz: can you post the entire error to pastebin?
[06:00] <b00gz> robotgeek: pastebin?
[06:00] <plastic9mm> mrkoge?
[06:00] <chapium> b00gz, try a different port
[06:00] <fireflys> i'm on livecd, whats the default lockscreen password?
[06:00] <robotgeek> b00gz: /topic
[06:00] <fireflys> i'll lose everything if i have to reboot :[ heh
[06:00] <fireflys> anyone know?
[06:01] <mustard5> firefly, well it should be your user password..but I have no idea what that is by default in liveCD
[06:01] <fireflys> i know ;[
[06:01] <b00gz> robotgeek: done.
[06:01] <pro> LincTeK, well.... i did all that it says but i need to reboot the comp
[06:01] <fireflys> there isnt a user password on livecd that i know of
[06:01] <DRAGON_Ultra> try guess
[06:01] <chapium> did you try blank?
[06:02] <robotgeek> b00gz: link? :)
[06:02] <fireflys> i think i did lemme try again
[06:02] <mustard5> yeah try blank
[06:02] <mustard5> or guest
[06:02] <b00gz> robotgeek: done. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982
[06:02] <chapium> if you have a password for sudo that should work
[06:02] <Eleaf> starpause, ?
[06:02] <pro> LincTeK, so..... brb
[06:02] <fireflys> blank said login cancelled
[06:02] <plastic9mm> hello?
[06:03] <fireflys> so even if its blank it doesnt work
[06:03] <fireflys> sudo password is the root password, im a user....i tried anyway though
[06:03] <plastic9mm> mrkoge
[06:03] <SAM_theman> ok guys
[06:03] <plastic9mm> could you pm me/.
[06:03] <SAM_theman> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[06:03] <SAM_theman> how i install it?
[06:04] <b00gz> robotgeek: Is that what you needed?
[06:04] <robotgeek> b00gz: yes, but i don't knwo what's wrong, sorry
[06:04] <b00gz> robotgeek: Thanks for trying to help :)
[06:05] <LincTeK> fireflys , try "demo" or "root"
[06:05] <Little_Drummer_B> Hi everyone. Can anyone help me... I have some troubles with Java. I followed the instructions in the wiki (restricted formats) and now it's isntalled but when i want to enter a java-based chat room, it doesnt display the chat properly. and I know it's not the chat site because it fails in all the chat systems I've tried.
[06:05] <chapium> fireflys, how important is it to not reboot?
[06:05] <n0dl> whats the package to get all hp printer drivers available in gnome-cups-manager?
[06:05] <fireflys> tried both
[06:05] <SAM_theman> Little drumer
[06:06] <SAM_theman> bet your pisssed
[06:06] <Little_Drummer_B> yes
[06:06] <SAM_theman> you followed the directions eh'?
[06:06] <fireflys> kinda important
[06:06] <Little_Drummer_B> yes to the very detail
[06:06] <SAM_theman> WROng!!!!
[06:06] <fireflys> well, thanks for tryin guys
[06:06] <SAM_theman> when you downloaded the java was it 1.5_04 or 1.5.06
[06:06] <fireflys> guess im fucked
[06:07] <chapium> keep searchin'
[06:07] <Little_Drummer_B> let me check
[06:07] <SAM_theman> *1.5_04
[06:07] <SAM_theman> or
[06:07] <SAM_theman> *1.5_06
[06:07] <Little_Drummer_B> j2re1.5-sun/
[06:07] <starpause> chapium: thanks, that worked
[06:07] <Little_Drummer_B> this one
[06:07] <starpause> =)
[06:07] <chapium> starpause, really what ?
[06:07] <pro> LincTeK, damn..... now i dont have any sound =(
[06:07] <ViViD> my ubuntu installer wont recognize my raid array, should i install to the system drive and configure the raid array after the system is running?
[06:08] <Little_Drummer_B> which java should i get
[06:08] <Eleaf> starpause, what happend?
[06:08] <chapium> router?  no problem
[06:08] <starpause> chapium: i was using mac filtering on my router ... i thought it applied only to wireless connections but aparently it applies to wired connections as well
[06:08] <chapium> ah
[06:08] <SAM_theman> the newest one
[06:08] <LincTeK> that stinks pro .
[06:08] <starpause> Eleaf/chapium: thanks for the help guys!!!
[06:08] <chapium> hehe.. i work tech support.. its always REBOOT!!!!13214213
[06:08] <Eleaf> sure, starpause what did you do to get it to work?
[06:08] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ java -version
[06:08] <SAM_theman> java version "1.5.0_06"
[06:08] <SAM_theman> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[06:08] <SAM_theman> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:08] <pro> LincTeK, lol yeah..... lemme back as before and i guess i'll try to fix mplayer later :P
[06:08] <starpause> Eleaf: i was using mac filtering on my router ... i thought it applied only to wireless connections but aparently it applies to wired connections as well
[06:08] <SAM_theman> :D
[06:09] <LincTeK> ok good luck
[06:09] <chapium> pocketPC possessed?  Cold reset
[06:09] <Eleaf> starpause, oh =p
[06:09] <chapium> Printer need an excorcism?  Cold rese
[06:09] <chapium> t
[06:09] <b00gz> I am having problems with installing ndiswrapper can someone please assist me ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982
[06:09] <Eleaf> sweet!  glad you go it up and running starpause !
[06:09] <starpause> chapium: i used to work techsupport as well, for 3 different isps ... my how the mind retards =)
[06:09] <LincTeK> pro, u should upgrade to Breezy
[06:09] <chapium> starpause, :D
[06:09] <Kaltherz> well... Maybe someone can help me with this: When I make a "./configure", it says compiler can't make executables... Any ideas ?
[06:10] <starpause> Eleaf: yeah =) afk while i see what i can break next!
[06:10] <pro> LincTeK, well...i dont know what's breezy exactly :P
[06:10] <bimberi> Kaltherz: install build-essential
[06:10] <sethk> Kaltherz, either the compiler doesn't have write privileges in the directory it is trying to write in, or the compiler installation is wrong
[06:10] <bz0b> hey all
[06:10] <Little_Drummer_B> Hey this is the java thing i installed
[06:10] <Little_Drummer_B> ava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[06:10] <sethk> Kaltherz, or libraries are missing
[06:10] <Little_Drummer_B> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:10] <Eleaf> lol
[06:10] <Kaltherz> aha...
[06:10] <Moxie> hello?
[06:10] <Little_Drummer_B> still i doesnt work properly in chat rooms
[06:10] <Moxie> i was wondering if i could get some help
[06:10] <Kaltherz> libraries are all installed
[06:10] <Kaltherz> or at least i think it
[06:10] <bz0b> sethk: i just chose to go the gdm way, but i lke it more, i didn't think i would, but now that i have this awsome theme, its way better
[06:10] <LincTeK> pro , the next version of ubuntu after Hoary 5.04
[06:10] <chapium> b00gz, root?
[06:11] <Kaltherz> but...
[06:11] <firefly[away] > problem solved :-D
[06:11] <Kaltherz> i'm going to try it
[06:11] <Eleaf> Little_Drummer_B, is the firefox plugin installed? Assuming your using firefox
[06:11] <sethk> bz0b, gdm will do everything xdm will do with much less aggrevation
[06:11] <Kaltherz> with build-essential
[06:11] <Moxie> im on a mac and im trying to dual boot on my ibook and i can't figure out how to partition my disk so i can install both!
[06:11] <Kaltherz> ...
[06:11] <LincTeK> pro u running ubuntu right ?
[06:11] <Moxie> could anyone help?!
[06:11] <pro> LincTeK, yeah
[06:11] <Little_Drummer_B> Yes, I am using mozilla firefox
[06:11] <rickest> Moxie: don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:11] <bz0b> sethk: thats true
[06:11] <Moxie> ok
[06:11] <Little_Drummer_B> how do i know whether the pluggin is installed
[06:11] <concept10> anyone know of a _stable_ application like the GNOME icon builder (GIB)?
[06:11] <Moxie> do you know what i mean?
[06:12] <Moxie> i want to dual boot and be able to choose what i want to boot into
[06:12] <fireflys> i just used a virtual console to restart X
[06:12] <plastic9mm> can someone please help me getting a wirless USB adapter working?
[06:12] <Moxie> i cannot figure it out
[06:12] <fireflys> im so leet
[06:12] <rickest> Moxie: lilo and grub are for that purpose
[06:12] <mustard5> Moxie, do you have a free partition set up already?
[06:12] <Moxie> huh?
[06:12] <rickest> grub is newer
[06:12] <Moxie> ummm
[06:12] <Eleaf> Little_Drummer_B, let's do a test!  go to http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~van/sssjava/javademo.html , if the game loads, java is installed
[06:12] <M_Cheevy> cool... that's all fixed now....
[06:12] <chapium> i <3 grub
[06:13] <rickest> Moxie:  do you already have linux installed?  winxp?
[06:13] <Moxie> no, i tried already...
[06:13] <Little_Drummer_B> ok
[06:13] <Moxie> no im on  mac
[06:13] <Moxie> tiger
[06:13] <pro> LincTeK, where can i get the upgrade?
[06:13] <LincTeK> pro , contrl/alt backspace it will log u out of x server and will tell you what version of ubuntu you are running
[06:13] <b00gz> chapium: I am in a root terminal
[06:13] <LincTeK> then log in and type "startx"
[06:13] <cafuego> Moxie: Once Ubuntu is installed, the 'yaboot' loader will display a little menu where you can choose 'x' or 'l'.
[06:13] <Moxie> i put in the tiger install cd and went to disk utility....
[06:13] <Moxie> yea i tried that
[06:13] <mustard5> LincTeK, cat /etc/issue tells you the version too
[06:13] <Moxie> how do i get the yaboot loader?
[06:14] <Moxie> i have tiger installed now, thats what im using now, and i want to install linux
[06:14] <cafuego> Moxie: If you played with the startup disk control panel, you wiped the boot config in pram.
[06:14] <chapium> b00gz, i see now..
[06:14] <M_Cheevy> cmatheson: thanks for the help... just reinstalled hal and a few of its dependencies and wammo blammo... all cool... including mounts, eject, and totem!   now there is one little nagging problem... it's an sudo issue involving hddtemp... anyone game?
[06:14] <Kaltherz> bimberi, it's not installed the build-essential
[06:14] <Moxie> so how do i fix it?
[06:14] <pro> LincTeK, i did ctrl+alt+f1 to get out and see that im running 5.04 "Hoary H" and then back with ctrl+alt+f7 :P
[06:14] <cafuego> Moxie: Ah ok. Insert cd, hold down 'c' when starting.
[06:14] <Moxie> right
[06:14] <b00gz> chapium: Any ideas?
[06:14] <Moxie> when i get to the partition part what do i do
[06:14] <chapium> b00gz, its a bit cryptic to me
[06:14] <LittleDrummerBoy> alright i see a skier
[06:14] <Moxie> i dont want to wipe out tiger and all of my info
[06:14] <LittleDrummerBoy> and i can hear the sound
[06:15] <b00gz> chapium: =/
[06:15] <LittleDrummerBoy> the game loaded
[06:15] <cafuego> Moxie: 1) make a backup of all data.
[06:15] <bimberi> Kaltherz: sorry, was there an error?
[06:15] <Moxie> how?
[06:15] <Moxie> CD?
[06:15] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, ok...
[06:15] <cafuego> Moxie: cd. dvd, tape, external hdd...
[06:15] <Kaltherz> bimberi, thx a lot, now it's working
[06:15] <LittleDrummerBoy> so java is installed but why cant i chat
[06:15] <LittleDrummerBoy> :(
[06:15] <Moxie> last time i moved everything to my external
[06:15] <Moxie> ok nice
[06:15] <Moxie> i did that to
[06:15] <Eleaf> what site are you trying to chat with LittleDrummerBoy ?
[06:15] <Eleaf> I'll see if it works with mine..
[06:15] <bimberi> Kaltherz: ah, k, np :)
[06:15] <M_Cheevy> Moxie: hopefully you've kept it all in your home dirs.... just bake them up to your fav external media...
[06:16] <Kaltherz> :D
[06:16] <cafuego> Moxie: In the installer, you should be able resize the Mac partition and make some free space for Linux.
[06:16] <b00gz> I am having problems with installing ndiswrapper can someone please assist me ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982
[06:16] <LittleDrummerBoy> ok i've tried in several chat java-web based rooms
[06:16] <Moxie> yea i couldnt figure that part out
[06:16] <LittleDrummerBoy> such as latinchat, esmas.com
[06:16] <M_Cheevy> bake = back... I'd just tarball the /home area and /root area...
[06:16] <pro> mustard5, true! thanks :P
[06:16] <LittleDrummerBoy> onchat.com
[06:16] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, try running it in epiphany-browser instead
[06:16] <LittleDrummerBoy> and others
[06:16] <LittleDrummerBoy> whats epiphany
[06:16] <Moxie> cause when you wanna break the big mac partition up it wipes it
[06:16] <n0dl> does anyone use a HP 932C?
[06:16] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, you can get it through apt-get
[06:17] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[06:17] <Moxie> but then i cant figure out swap space and free space and what to put for hfs, journaling.....all that crap
[06:17] <LittleDrummerBoy> but i dont want other browser i want firefox only
[06:17] <LittleDrummerBoy> this thing worked in knoppix
[06:17] <LittleDrummerBoy> why cant it work on ubuntu
[06:17] <LittleDrummerBoy> :(
[06:17] <Moxie> which one is /home and which is just "/."
[06:17] <Kaltherz> bimberi, now it's another matter
[06:17] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, I dont know..Im just trying to help you get a functioning java game :)
[06:17] <Moxie> do i do the partition part on the ubuntu installer manually/
[06:17] <Moxie> i know you have that option
[06:17] <LittleDrummerBoy> the game u told me loaded
[06:18] <LincTeK> pro , in your sources.lst file change "hoary" to "breezy" the apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:18] <b00gz> :(
[06:18] <Kaltherz> it says that configure: error:
[06:18] <Kaltherz>             Please check that wx-config is in path
[06:18] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, but the text doesnt appear in chat..I know :)
[06:18] <Kaltherz> it's something else to install ?
[06:18] <LittleDrummerBoy> how do you know
[06:18] <LittleDrummerBoy> does it happen to you
[06:19] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, yes...
[06:19] <mustard5> LittleDrummerBoy, so I use epiphany to play java games
[06:19] <LincTeK> pro, /etc/apt/sources.list is where the file is
[06:19] <LittleDrummerBoy> it used to work in knoppix linux
[06:19] <LittleDrummerBoy> whats wrong with ubuntu
[06:19] <M_Cheevy> heya folks, gotta nagging little problem with hddtemp... gotta use sudo everytime I want to get a temp.. needless to say, it's clogging the logs... anyone seen a way to fix this.. only thing I've found so far is in german
[06:19] <Toma-> whats the prob LittleDrummerBoy ?
[06:19] <LincTeK> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <Moxie> could anyone help?
[06:19] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, www.latinchat.com works for me!
[06:19] <Moxie> im stuck and it sucks
[06:19] <Moxie> i cant figure out the partition part
[06:20] <mustard5> Toma-, his java game runs but he can't type text in chat in the game
[06:20] <LittleDrummerBoy> on firefox?
[06:20] <Toma-> M_Cheevy: use babelfish to translate the page
[06:20] <Moxie> im an idiot
[06:20] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, yea on firefox
[06:20] <pro> LincTeK, ok, what part of the file i need to change?
[06:20] <cdubya> Moxie, what are you doing?
[06:20] <LittleDrummerBoy> wah!!!!!!!!1
[06:20] <azuron> How to build with "-g" option, I am too new to dev under Linux?
[06:20] <Toma-> wow. thats weird. sounds like java isnt setup right.
[06:20] <Moxie> nothing
[06:20] <azuron> Please help
[06:20] <Moxie> why?
[06:20] <Toma-> LittleDrummerBoy: you using blackdown or java's java?
[06:20] <M_Cheevy> Toma:  google translator choked.. from what german I remember from the amish I grew up with it just recommends a non-working sudoers edit....
[06:20] <LittleDrummerBoy> is there any console to configure java
[06:20] <LittleDrummerBoy> or something i can do
[06:20] <mustard5> Toma-, I get the same thing in firefox...java and firefox don't like each other
[06:20] <LittleDrummerBoy> whats blackdown
[06:20] <cdubya> Moxie, I meant, what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <Toma-> whats the site?
[06:21] <Toma-> LittleDrummerBoy: its a "free" java
[06:21] <Moxie> trying to dual boot between linux and mac
[06:21] <Toma-> afaik
[06:21] <cdubya> heh
[06:21] <LittleDrummerBoy> nope im using SUN'S Java
[06:21] <LincTeK> where it says "hoary" change it to "breezy"   eg: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[06:21] <Moxie> partition my hard drive....
[06:21] <Toma-> LittleDrummerBoy: ok good
[06:21] <LittleDrummerBoy> i followed the restricted formats wiki
[06:21] <Moxie> cant figure it out
[06:21] <Moxie> i have tiger install already.....and want to install ubuntu
[06:21] <cdubya> Moxie, make sure OS X is in the first 8 gigs
[06:21] <LincTeK> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[06:21] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, I am using firefox 1.5 though!  This may be why but I don't know...
[06:21] <Moxie> ok....
[06:21] <Toma-> LittleDrummerBoy: what site is the problem??
[06:21] <cdubya> Moxie, do you have your stuff backed up?
[06:21] <pro> LincTeK, ok
[06:22] <Moxie> do i insert the ubuntu install cd or the tiger install cd to figure that out?
[06:22] <LittleDrummerBoy> so am i
[06:22] <LittleDrummerBoy> 1.5
[06:22] <Moxie> yes i do....
[06:22] <LincTeK> do that on all lines
[06:22] <Moxie> to my external
[06:22] <LittleDrummerBoy> i did the upgrade
[06:22] <b00gz> I am having problems with installing ndiswrapper can someone please assist me ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982
[06:22] <cdubya> Moxie, to figure out what?
[06:22] <Moxie> the partitioning
[06:22] <LittleDrummerBoy> i gots breezy badger
[06:22] <Kaltherz> bimberi
[06:22] <Toma-> ok, nevermind then. good luck.
[06:22] <Kaltherz> bimberi, is it something else to install ?
[06:22] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[06:23] <Moxie> should i do it from the ubuntu install cd?
[06:23] <LincTeK> u dual booting Moxie ?
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> I need a littler help trying to run 2 monitores with 2 video cards
[06:23] <Moxie> not now....trying to figure out how to do it
[06:23] <cdubya> Moxie, you should be able to do that and setup the partitions ok.
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> i'm followin the following link:  --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:23] <cdubya> Moxie, how big of drive?
[06:23] <Moxie> from the ubuntu install cd/
[06:23] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, that's odd, what's your java version again?
[06:23] <Moxie> 60gb
[06:23] <cdubya> k
[06:23] <Moxie> ibook w/ tiger
[06:23] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, how is it going?
[06:23] <pro> LincTeK, ok, im downloadin it
[06:23] <cdubya> Moxie, heh
[06:24] <B7su4> is there a command that tell me all the commands availiable ?
[06:24] <LittleDrummerBoy> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~van/sssjava/javademo.html
[06:24] <LittleDrummerBoy> oops
[06:24] <rickest> B7su4: tab?
[06:24] <LincTeK> cool
[06:24] <pro> LincTeK, anything else after that?
[06:24] <Moxie> i want like 5gb for linux and the rest for tiger
[06:24] <LittleDrummerBoy> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[06:24] <LittleDrummerBoy> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:24] <LittleDrummerBoy> that one
[06:24] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, you checked any of the thread out in the forum on doing something similar?
[06:24] <Inf3ctedFx> wellm I got to the point wher in synaptic said mark if I have GForce2 the one legacy
[06:24] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, they call that twinview don't they?
[06:24] <cdubya> Moxie, if memory serves, when I booted the Breezy CD on this laptop, the partitioner allowed me to resize the existing partitions without damaging them and then setup a second partition to house Ubuntu.....
[06:24] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, I'm tired, what's the command to get that
[06:24] <Moxie> so i just insert the ubuntu install cd...with tiger already installed....and figure out the partitions from there? and ill be able to get the yaboot screen and choose which system to boot into?
[06:25] <LincTeK> hmmmm you may have to fix some stuff after upgrading
[06:25] <LittleDrummerBoy> java -version
[06:25] <Inf3ctedFx> well I'm going to tell u the true I did it following a howto in spanish from #ubuntu-es
[06:25] <Eleaf> i did that
[06:25] <Inf3ctedFx> mustard5:  and mi X crash  :(
[06:25] <LincTeK> trying to think what i had to fi
[06:25] <Eleaf> ok
[06:25] <LincTeK> x
[06:25] <Moxie> did you choose the "manuel figure out partitions" tab or w/e
[06:25] <Eleaf> nevermind I had it at first.. lol
[06:25] <pro> i see
[06:25] <Inf3ctedFx> hopfully I backup my previews xorg
[06:25] <Inf3ctedFx> and I have now the old one
[06:25] <cdubya> Moxie, you'll get to a point in the installer where it will ask you about partitioning.....hang on....
[06:25] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I know there is a how to in the forums on twinview anyway
[06:25] <Eleaf> this is mine LittleDrummerBoy java version "1.4.2"
[06:25] <Eleaf> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[06:26] <LittleDrummerBoy> SO should i DOWNgrade?
[06:26] <Inf3ctedFx> well do u have the link?? cuz I couldn't find it
[06:26] <b00gz> Well guess I am going back to CentOS at least I could get people to help in their channel
[06:26] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I'm looking now :)
[06:26] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, hmm, I'm not sure..
[06:26] <Moxie> so i break up the big partition, which holds tiger now (50-55GB or w/e), and install ubuntu on the small part off of the big one?
[06:26] <Inf3ctedFx> mustard5:  thx
[06:26] <B7su4> peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:26] <B7su4> bash: peerguardnf:: command not found
[06:26] <LittleDrummerBoy> i dont even know if im prepare to that endeavor of DOWNGRADING java
[06:26] <Moxie> the yaboot will figure out itself?
[06:27] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=twinview
[06:27] <B7su4> can anyone help me with that?
[06:27] <cdubya> Moxie, as long as you have enough space to work in, yeah.
[06:27] <Moxie> cause ive already tried this and could not figure it out
[06:27] <Inf3ctedFx> thx mustard5  let me read it
[06:27] <cdubya> Moxie, I'm not sure about yaboot, though....
[06:27] <Moxie> right....
[06:27] <Moxie> thats what im worried about
[06:27] <cdubya> Moxie, I've used yaboot on other distros...
[06:27] <LincTeK> pro, ck this out if you have trouble http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[06:27] <Moxie> which ones?
[06:27] <Moxie> yellowdog?
[06:27] <cdubya> Moxie, Yellow Dog
[06:27] <Moxie> wod
[06:27] <LittleDrummerBoy> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:27] <LincTeK> or use the ubuntuforums
[06:27] <LittleDrummerBoy> type this
[06:27] <Moxie> is that easier to use?
[06:28] <LittleDrummerBoy> tell me what u see
[06:28] <Moxie> for partitioning goes
[06:28] <Frem> I'm sure this question has been asked far too often, but how do you guys get X working on a newer ATI card? I just got tons of errors when booting up from a livedisk.
[06:28] <Eleaf> who?
[06:28] <bimberi> Kaltherz: sorry, was afk ... another error?
[06:28] <LittleDrummerBoy> elaf
[06:28] <Eleaf> oh
[06:28] <pro> LincTeK, kk man..... thanks for ur help... i hope that fix the main problem heh =)
[06:28] <Moxie> will it set up easier/
[06:29] <Kaltherz> ...
[06:29] <cdubya> Moxie, I don't think the partitioning is any better. I just don't know how Ubuntu PPC is handling it....I'm assuming they're using yaboot, and I'd think it would ask to install it...
[06:29] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy,        Selection    Alternative
[06:29] <Eleaf> -----------------------------------------------
[06:29] <Eleaf>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[06:29] <Eleaf> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[06:29] <Eleaf>       3        /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[06:29] <Kaltherz> yes
[06:29] <Kaltherz> it gives me...
[06:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> it tell me i have three javas
[06:29] <Kaltherz> ehm
[06:29] <cdubya> Moxie, but I'm not sure......hang on.
[06:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> JUST LIKE YOU!
[06:29] <Kaltherz> sorry, a moment
[06:29] <Kaltherz> i must reopen
[06:29] <Toma-> go flood?
[06:29] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy,  dun dun don don...
[06:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> im gonna choose the one u got selected
[06:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> you got number 2
[06:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> i got number 3
[06:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> so im gonna swtich to two
[06:30] <Eleaf> Ok
[06:30] <LittleDrummerBoy> thanks eleaf
[06:30] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, did that work?
[06:30] <cdubya> Moxie, it looks like it does install yaboot automagically during install.....
[06:30] <LittleDrummerBoy> hold a sec
[06:30] <Eleaf> ok
[06:31] <LittleDrummerBoy> im still a newbie with the shell
[06:31] <LittleDrummerBoy> brb
[06:31] <cdubya> Moxie, http://www.ppcnerds.org/displayarticle157.html
[06:31] <LincTeK> frem , ck this thread out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95776&page=2
[06:31] <LincTeK> good luck pro
[06:31] <Ubuntu27> Guys! Good evening :)
[06:31] <Kaltherz> well bimberi
[06:31] <kakei> hey any one knows how to change the name showed by Konsole ? Actually is showing sh-3.00$
[06:31] <Inf3ctedFx> hey mustard5  question, these TwingVeiw mean the same desktop in the other monitor or is just an extendet monitor like on windows?
[06:31] <Kaltherz> now it not allows me to make nothing
[06:31] <mustard5> greetings Ubuntu27
[06:31] <Frem> Thanks, LincTeK. :-)
[06:31] <Ubuntu27> I am currently so desesperate ><
[06:31] <Ubuntu27> hi Mustard :)
[06:31] <LincTeK> your welcome
[06:32] <Psycho78m> is anyone willingto help me? im at a standstill as of now
[06:32] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I'm not totally sure on that ..i believe its the same desktop on two monitors
[06:32] <bimberi> Kaltherz: mmhmm .. any error? (pastebin if long)
[06:32] <Kaltherz> bimberi, now it's running
[06:32] <Kaltherz> but...
[06:32] <Ubuntu27> I am trying to unistall some apps so I could get some free space...
[06:32] <Kaltherz> better in a prive
[06:32] <Kaltherz> it long
[06:33] <LincTeK> whats the problem Psycho78m ?
[06:33] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, you will probably find some assistance on the nvidia website in the linux forum section too
[06:33] <Ubuntu27> anyway, to put a long story short
[06:33] <Psycho78m> LincTeK: after installation, it freezes at an underscore
[06:33] <Psycho78m> the hard drive stops
[06:33] <mustard5> Inf3ctedFx, I don't use twinview myself, I just see a lot of questions about it
[06:33] <Ubuntu27> Serpentine is telling me that I don't have enought spce in Cache"
[06:33] <bimberi> Kaltherz: better on a pastebin because i might not know how to help and you could point others to it
[06:33] <Kaltherz> ok
[06:34] <Inf3ctedFx> ok mustard5  thx anyway
[06:34] <Kaltherz> here is...
[06:34] <LincTeK> psycho u doing a clean install of Breezy ?
[06:34] <Kaltherz> gcc -pthread -c -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I. -I./Include  -DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Objects/descrobject.o Objects/descrobject.c
[06:34] <Kaltherz> Objects/descrobject.c: En la funcin `property_descr_set':
[06:34] <Kaltherz> Objects/descrobject.c:1123: internal compiler error: Violacin de segmento
[06:34] <Kaltherz> Please submit a full bug report,
[06:34] <Kaltherz> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
[06:34] <Kaltherz> See <URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
[06:34] <Kaltherz> For Debian GNU/Linux specific bug reporting instructions, see
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[06:34] <Kaltherz> make: *** [Objects/descrobject.o]  Error 1
[06:34] <Kaltherz> i said it was long !
[06:34] <Psycho78m> LincTeK: of... ubuntu, i think
[06:34] <Toma-> kick/ban
[06:34] <Ubuntu27> So, I really don't know what to do. I was deleting files that I don't need...
[06:36] <Psycho78m> theres just an underscore at the top left of the screen that has ceased to blink, and it finished everything that i could think of
[06:36] <LordCrusader> can you install ubuntu on a gateway computer?
[06:36] <Xperience> breezy badger is latest stable right?
[06:36] <Psycho78m> it was past the splash screen
[06:36] <LittleDrummerBoy> Eleiaf it didnt work
[06:36] <mustard5> Xperience, yep
[06:36] <bimberi> Kaltherz: sorry, that one's beyond me.  btw i meant paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:36] <Frem> LincTeK: I did the vesa thing in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, now I'm getting a "Fatal server error: no screens found".
[06:36] <poningru> !torrent
[06:36] <ubotu> poningru: Wish i knew
[06:36] <LittleDrummerBoy> i guess money turned out to be victorious again :( microsoft can buy everything
[06:36] <Kaltherz> yeah...
[06:36] <Toma-> !bittorrent
[06:36] <ubotu> I guess bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:36] <Kaltherz> it's complicate, bimberi
[06:36] <Psycho78m> LittleDrummerBoy: yea and gates is man of the year too
[06:36] <mustard5> LincTeK, you used the pastebin before?
[06:37] <Kaltherz> but take a look
[06:37] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, aww, I'm sorry
[06:37] <mustard5> LincTeK, doh wrong nick ignore that
[06:37] <Kaltherz> i tried to install xmule and python
[06:37] <iflipti> ubotu do you ever sleep?
[06:37] <Eleaf> LittleDrummerBoy, what part of it isn't loading right?
[06:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, iflipti
[06:37] <mustard5> Frem, you used the pastebin before?
[06:37] <Moxie> so i just have to insert the ubuntu install cd and can figure out the partitioning from there?
[06:37] <Kaltherz> and it don't allow me that
[06:37] <LordCrusader> can ubuntu be installed on a gateway computer that loads up on a gateway cmos?
[06:37] <poningru> iflipti: he is a bot
[06:37] <LittleDrummerBoy> the part where the chat rooms are loaded
[06:37] <mustard5> ubotu, tell Frem about pastebin
[06:37] <LittleDrummerBoy> i click and click and click over it and .,.
[06:37] <poningru> LordCrusader: as in the company?
[06:37] <iflipti> so I guess not
[06:37] <LittleDrummerBoy> nothing happens
[06:37] <mustard5> Frem, can you paste your xorg.conf in pastebin at all?
[06:38] <Xperience> has anyone got an avidemuxer package for ubuntu?
[06:38] <Ubuntu27> How much space do I need for kd3 [or was it k3d ? ]  the burning software ?
[06:38] <Xperience> i need this app
[06:38] <Eleaf> hmm
[06:38] <Psycho78m> is there some kind of safe mode or something that i can go into when it is starting up?
[06:38] <bimberi> Kaltherz: xmule is in the repositories - or are you after particular features?
[06:38] <Moxie> do i click the "keep all partitions and use free space"?
[06:38] <Xperience> i tried the marillat sources and they dont work
[06:38] <LordCrusader> poningru: It a gateway computer, and it boots up with a gateway screen and stuff, it's not a normal cmos. It's a gateway computer. So i'm assuming that gateway is embetter into the cmos.
[06:38] <Moxie> or try to break up my big partition space from tiger?
[06:38] <rickest> Ubuntu27: k3b is about 10MB
[06:38] <Kaltherz> ?
[06:39] <Kaltherz> not
[06:39] <Xperience> it asks for two dependancies that both uninstall each other
[06:39] <Kaltherz> i will only learn how to compile
[06:39] <Kaltherz> ...
[06:39] <mustard5> Frem, alternatively you could do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you haven't done it already
[06:39] <Kaltherz> and use it, of course
[06:39] <bimberi> !info xmule
[06:39] <LincTeK> psycho, cntrl/alt f1
[06:39] <ubotu> xmule: (eMule client for the edonkey2000 network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.10.0b-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 902 kB, Installed size: 2836 kB
[06:39] <Psycho78m> ok
[06:39] <Ubuntu27> ok.. I guess I can install that.     Thank you rickest :)
[06:39] <iflipti> I can't get into my system> administration >networking menu.  I put in the password, it starts up in the taskbar, and then closes and nothing else happens.  Can someone help me out?
[06:39] <Xperience> !info avidemuxer
[06:40] <Kaltherz> you said that xmule is in the repositories ?
[06:40] <rickest> Ubuntu27: you can always uninstall it once you learn the cdrecord cmdline syntax :)
[06:40] <LordCrusader> did you hear me poningru?
[06:40] <Xperience> i need an ubuntu package for avidemuxer can someone please help?
[06:40] <poningru> LordCrusader: naah it will work
[06:40] <poningru> !gateway
[06:40] <ubotu> Not a clue, poningru
[06:40] <LordCrusader> are you sure?
[06:40] <mustard5> iflipti, are you in your administrator account?
[06:40] <LincTeK> psycho, then try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:40] <cdubya> Moxie, you should be able to do it in the Ubuntu install. Again, as long as you've backed up your data and have a copy of Tiger to reinstall if something goes south, then it will be a great learning experience.
[06:40] <poningru> LordCrusader: pretty sure, cause almost all companies flash their logos on the startup screens
[06:40] <mustard5> iflipti, is this a new install?
[06:40] <iflipti> mustard5: yes
[06:40] <Frem> I hate it when chatzilla crashes.
[06:40] <poningru> LordCrusader: try a live cd
[06:40] <Xperience> !info firefox
[06:40] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[06:40] <iflipti> mustard5: yes again
[06:40] <LordCrusader> oh ok, good idea.
[06:40] <LordCrusader> thanks bye
[06:40] <mustard5> iflipti, did you use expert install?
[06:41] <bimberi> Kaltherz: yes, it's in the universe repository - http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse
[06:41] <poningru> LordCrusader: yep
[06:41] <Kaltherz> ok, i'm going to check it.
[06:41] <poningru> Xperience: are you trying to update to firefox 1.5?
[06:41] <Blocky> Alright guys, finnaly got Wine up and running
[06:41] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[06:41] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:41] <iflipti> mustard5: yes I did.
[06:41] <Kaltherz> i'm posting the problem to the web...
[06:41] <Xperience> can someon point me to avidemuxer?
[06:41] <poningru> !info avidemuxer
[06:41] <mustard5> iflipti, ok...your first account has not been set up with sudo privileges then
[06:41] <LincTeK> firefox 1.5 rocks
[06:41] <mustard5> iflipti, you need to do it manually
[06:41] <Ubuntu27> I've just installed K3b, how do I run it? I'm using Ubuntu.
[06:41] <poningru> Xperience: hold on
[06:42] <Psycho78m> LincTeK: that brings me to the bios
[06:42] <Xperience> thx
[06:42] <mustard5> iflipti, do you know how to do that?
[06:42] <poningru> Ubuntu27: it should be under sound & video
[06:42] <mustard5> iflipti, if not PM me and I can walk you through it
[06:42] <Psycho78m> LincTeK: i selected "other os"
[06:42] <Psycho78m> ill see if that was the problem
[06:42] <iflipti> mustard5: oh, so I need to go into console and type sudo ... something..
[06:42] <mustard5> iflipti, no..you have no sudo
[06:42] <Ubuntu27> I cannot found it under Sound & video :(
[06:42] <poningru> Xperience: wait what eactly are you trying to do?
[06:42] <mustard5> iflipti, you are just a normal user if you used expert install
[06:42] <Ubuntu27> I've even did update-menus in terminal
[06:42] <poningru> Ubuntu27: where did you install it from?
[06:42] <mustard5> iflipti, but it would have set up a root password
[06:43] <Ubuntu27> using apt
[06:43] <poningru> Ubuntu27: open a terminal and type in k3b
[06:43] <Eleaf> Ubuntu27, type k3b in a terminal for now...
[06:43] <mustard5> iflipti, so you have root access which will enable you to edit the /etc/sudoers file
[06:43] <Eleaf> op
[06:43] <Xperience> poningru i need a virtualdub like prog
[06:43] <Ubuntu27> I've installed using sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:43] <Ubuntu27> it says "k3b" command not found
[06:43] <mustard5> iflipti, you can edit the /etc/sudoers file by getting a root prompt and using the visudo command
[06:44] <poningru> Xperience: hmm yeah not sure dude
[06:44] <Ubuntu27> oh, yeah.. i see. There is a problem with pmount... nwo what should I do ? ><
[06:44] <Ubuntu27> pmount: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not installable
[06:44] <Ubuntu27>           Depends: libsysfs2 but it is not installable
[06:45] <iflipti> mustard5: in the terminal?
[06:45] <mustard5> iflipti, do you feel confident about doing that or do you need more help?
[06:45] <sethk> Ubuntu27, why is it in the not installable state?
[06:45] <Ubuntu27> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>   k3b: Depends: k3blibs (>= 0.12.7) but it is not going to be installed
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>        Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>        Depends: libdbus-qt-1-1c2 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not going to be installed       Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>        Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.1.4-2) but it is not going to be installed
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>        Depends: kdebase-bin but it is not going to be installed
[06:45] <Jeeves_moss> **may I ask a new question on here?**
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>        Depends: kcontrol but it is not going to be installed
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>   pmount: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not installable
[06:45] <Ubuntu27>           Depends: libsysfs2 but it is not installable
[06:45] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: please don't flood.
[06:45] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, you can ask any question, _except_ may I ask a question
[06:45] <mustard5> Ubuntu27, don't paste in main channel plz
[06:45] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, just ask (see rules and topic)
[06:45] <poningru> Ubuntu27: dude try the synaptic route
[06:45] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: they're perfectly installable on current Dapper; all three are ^ii here
[06:46] <mustard5> iflipti, can I PM you..its too messy in the main channel :)
[06:46] <Ubuntu27> I saw a thread in Ubuntu forums about mounting the floopy drive automaticaly.. and it says that we/I should download the latest pmount... so I did
[06:46] <poningru> Ubuntu27: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:46] <Kaltherz> bimberi
[06:46] <iflipti> mustard5:  um, not quite
[06:46] <crimsun> poningru: he has Dapper mixed in there somehow
[06:46] <mustard5> iflipti, alternatively can you join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:46] <Ubuntu27> I downloaded pmount, and installed it...
[06:46] <sethk> Ubuntu27, the floopy?
[06:46] <Kaltherz> bimberi thx a lot
[06:46] <Jeeves_moss> ok, I haven't used IRC before.  I'm trying to find help on installing Ubuntu on a G1 Proliant DL-380 server.  I get through the boot up part, but when it gets to loading the installer, I get a kernel panic
[06:46] <Ubuntu27> Breezy
[06:46] <iflipti> mustard5 yes
[06:46] <sethk> Ubuntu27, do you _really_ use floppies often enough to care whether or not they automount?
[06:46] <tyler> i just downloaded a DGM theme, how do i install it?
[06:46] <iflipti> ok let's go to  #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <Ubuntu27> no, I don't use it. I only use it on emergencies :P
[06:47] <sethk> Ubuntu27, do you _really_ want your machine checking several times a minute to see if someone may have inserted a floppy?
[06:47] <Ubuntu27> no, I don't
[06:47] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: dpkg -l pmount|tail -1
[06:47] <sethk> Ubuntu27, personally I don't want that overhead.  :)
[06:47] <bimberi> Kaltherz: np :)
[06:47] <Ubuntu27> ok..
[06:47] <Kaltherz> but i don't finded it there
[06:47] <Ubuntu27> dpkg -l pmount|tail -1
[06:47] <Kaltherz> XD
[06:47] <dougsko> any of you guys running on a laptop? i tried the kanotix live cd a little while ago, and my usb ports didnt work
[06:48] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: I need the output
[06:48] <dougsko> i have a compaq presario
[06:48] <Ubuntu27> ghost@heaven:~$ dpkg -l pmount|tail -1
[06:48] <Ubuntu27> iU  pmount         0.9.7-1ubuntu1 mount removable devices as normal user
[06:48] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: now, lsb_release -r
[06:48] <Jeeves_moss> any one have news on my Proliant DL380 problem?
[06:48] <chapium> ugh, stupid java
[06:48] <cdubya> dougsko, yep. Toshiba Satellite A55
[06:48] <chapium> gnite folks
[06:48] <Kaltherz> not a matter
[06:48] <nak> goodnight
[06:48] <Ubuntu27> Release:        5.10
[06:48] <dougsko> cool, im downloading the ubuntu live cd now
[06:48] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: you've installed 6.04's pmount. Don't do that.
[06:48] <Ubuntu27> I did that ?
[06:48] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: you must revert to 5.10/Breezy's pmount.
[06:48] <frogzoo> dougsko: plenty of lappy users run Ubuntu
[06:48] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: yes
[06:49] <Ubuntu27> my!
[06:49] <nak> I am on a laptop with ubuntu! :)
[06:49] <Jeeves_moss> dougsko: I run Ubuntu on my Tosh Sat P-20 with no problems
[06:49] <Ubuntu27> how do I revert ?
[06:49] <dougsko> cool, i know there are a lot of hardware issues with laptops and linux however
[06:49] <Ubuntu27> ... should I again download pmount ?
[06:50] <dougsko> ill let u guys know how the live cd works out
[06:50] <nak> use it to tell us :)
[06:50] <nak> xchat
[06:50] <Jeeves_moss> Dougsko: I've tried a LOT of differen't distros and Ubunto works the best for me.  It has a MadWiFi driver WORKING on it.
[06:50] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: sudo aptitude install pmount=0.9.5-0ubuntu5
[06:51] <dougsko> yeah, wireless is another issue. ive been fighting with ndiswrapper for awhile. i have a marvell chipset
[06:51] <bimberi> Kaltherz: ubuntu installs python2.4 by default
[06:51] <robotgeek> dougsko: hmm, someone else was also using the same chipset. Avaratec card or something
[06:51] <Kaltherz> yeah...
[06:51] <Ubuntu27> thank you Crimsun
[06:51] <Kaltherz> it true
[06:51] <Jeeves_moss> Dougsko: well, mine is an Athoes card, and was a pain in the butt.  I can run AiroPlay with it and do packet injection as well (BIG thing for me_
[06:52] <Kaltherz> i have just
[06:52] <Ubuntu27> Thank you so much Crimsun! Now the k3b install works !!
[06:52] <dougsko> mines a netgear. itll be a struggle, but hopefully ill get it working. i cant deal with windows for too much longer. ive gotten way to used to linux and bsd
[06:52] <Kaltherz> realiced it
[06:52] <nekostar> agr
[06:52] <nekostar> seems i messed something up somewhere with gnome art
[06:52] <LincTeK> later everybody ... sleepy time
[06:52] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: np. In the future, don't manually download and install debs; always use aptitude, gnome-app-install, or Synaptic
[06:52] <nekostar> i get this wierd integer error
[06:52] <dougsko> cya
[06:53] <Ubuntu27> yep. I will keep in my mind :)
[06:53] <tyler> How do I make my taskbar not span across the entire screen?
[06:53] <nak> whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get install?
[06:53] <tyler> Anyone know?
[06:53] <Jeeves_moss> Proliant issues?  any one?
[06:54] <Jeeves_moss> wow, must be this end.  no respoance
[06:54] <nak> :)
[06:54] <crimsun> nak: aptitude is another front-end; it tends to be more intelligent than apt-get regarding Suggests/Recommends
[06:54] <Jeeves_moss> Nak:  any ideas on my server issue?
[06:54] <Frem> I just got this message: "[?]  Configuring xserver-xorg The answer to this question has been preseeded (). If you see this template, you've found a bug in the installer; please file a report. dummy template for preseeding unavalable questions
[06:54] <tyler> Question: How do i make it so that the taskbar doesn't extend across the entire screen?
[06:55] <nak> Jeeves_moss: Whats your server issue?
[06:55] <popey> tyler: right click it, properties, untick the "expand" check box
[06:55] <Madpilot> tyler: run it up the side of the screen instead? :P
[06:56] <dougsko> tyler, use fluxbox, it's super customizable
[06:56] <popey> !
[06:56] <ubotu> popey: I give up, what is it?
[06:56] <Jeeves_moss> nak:  I try to run the installer (boot from a full downlaoded CD), and I get a kernel panic.  It does the same thing in Debian.  I DON'T like Suse, but I'm currently d-loading the 65Mb to see if it works.  I'd RATHER run Ubuntu (easier for me to think about in a command line)
[06:56] <Frem> dougsko: IceWM is better. ;-)
[06:56] <_rip> hi, can anyone tell me where i can download a package direclty fromt he universe repository? i ned the wpasupplicant. and no i cant use apt* or synaptic as the ubuntu machione wont  come online wihtouht that package.. thanks..
[06:56] <popey> window manager warz!
[06:56] <Frem> w00t!
[06:57] <dougsko> Frem, ive never tried Ice
[06:57] <tyler> dougsko, where can i get that?
[06:57] <tyler> dougsko, and is it just for taskbar, or more?
[06:57] <popey> noooo
[06:57] <popey> tyler: ignore them they're being silly ;)
[06:57] <Jeeves_moss> nak: any ideas?
[06:57] <nak> Jeeves_moss: Hmm, kernel panic just from installing off a downloaded CD? Try ordering a CD or using the 386 kernel
[06:57] <Kaltherz> bimberi, i'm reading the FAQ
[06:58] <nak> Jeeves_moss: I only had a kernel panic after compiling my own kernel on slackware
[06:58] <bimberi> Kaltherz: k
[06:58] <nak> not right off a fresh install :/
[06:58] <crimsun> _rip: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/wpasupplicant
[06:58] <dougsko> tyler, yeah its not really a solution to yr problem, but something to think about in the future
[06:58] <nak> oh he is gone!
[06:58] <Frem> dougsko: I've used fluxbox all too much. I got tired of the same old bugs. With IceWM, I have *new* bugs. ;-)
[06:58] <tyler> dougsko, well the expand button was what i was looking for, but i wouldn't mind toying with it.  can i download it through the package manager?
[06:59] <_rip> crimsun thanks
[06:59] <dougsko> tyler, yes
[06:59] <Frem> w00t!!! I have a graphical screen! On an ATI card!.... ohhh, pretty...
[06:59] <dougsko> Frem, oh yeah, but without bugs, computers would be boring
[06:59] <dougsko> lol
[07:00] <tyler> Question: I installed the default nVidia video drivers when I installed ubuntu.  Are there any better ones I could download? or are these the best possible
[07:00] <damianmann> heloo
[07:00] <Ubuntu27> hello
[07:00] <Ubuntu27> me again :)
[07:01] <dougsko> tyler, they're what you want if u have a nvidia card
[07:01] <kakei> sethk : check PM if u r ther
[07:01] <Ubuntu27> I've run k3b and it says that I don't have cdrdao.. so I installed it
[07:01] <Kaltherz> it too late
[07:01] <Jeeves_moss> ok, sorry, I just got booted
[07:01] <tyler> one more question.. How do i install a GDM theme?
[07:01] <Ubuntu27> Now it is tellin me that I should configure cdrdao so it can run with full root privileges..
[07:01] <frogzoo> !tell tyler about nvidia
[07:01] <Ubuntu27> how do I do that ?
[07:01] <Kaltherz> bye bye !!
[07:02] <Kaltherz> thx bimberi !!
[07:02] <Jeeves_moss> ok, I'm back requesting help with my Proliant servers.  Hopefully I'll be able to stay connected
[07:02] <dougsko> tyler, you might have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the nvidia drivers
[07:02] <crimsun> Ubuntu27: you don't need full root privileges
[07:02] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: what were you installing from? cd or dvd?
[07:02] <mustard5> tyler, system preferences themes...I think you can drag and drop the theme in somewhere..
[07:02] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo: from CD
[07:02] <dougsko> tyler, theres a good how-to in the ubuntu forems
[07:02] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: recent model?
[07:02] <Ubuntu27> cdrdao will be run without root privileges
[07:02] <Ubuntu27> It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to increase the overall stability of the burning process.
[07:02] <Ubuntu27> Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem
[07:03] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo: as I said, I'd REALY like to stay away form Suse.
[07:03] <Psycho78m> what is the linux command for entering the os after monitor config is done
[07:03] <Ubuntu27> That's what it says.
[07:03] <kgbenes> any advice on good packager managers in kde besides adept?  or does everyone pretty much use adept or synaptic?
[07:03] <tyler> mustard5, i can install themes, but the GDM one wasn't working there.
[07:03] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: recent model CD drive I meant
[07:03] <crimsun> kgbenes: there're always aptitude and apt-get
[07:03] <Ubuntu27> I don't need root privileges ?
[07:03] <Jeeves_moss> us, It reads CDs (burnt and new)
[07:04] <frogzoo> kgbenes: synaptic is standard
[07:04] <Psycho78m> is it "start"
[07:04] <kgbenes> i like synaptic, but wasnt sure what else i was missing.  thanks!
[07:04] <mustard5> tyler, are you talking about the gmd login screen?
[07:04] <tyler> mustard5, yes
[07:04] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: reason is, older CD drives could only read mode1 - & will fail on mode 2 if the drive too old - one possibility
[07:05] <Jeeves_moss> so your sudgestion is to try a newer CD-ROM?
[07:05] <mustard5> tyler, thats in system administration login screen setup..but I don' t know how you install with that one
[07:05] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  give me one sec to toast off a new copy of the installer and I'll give you a copy of what it says
[07:05] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: or burn your iso again - but select "disk at once" and mode 1
[07:05] <tyler> Does anyone know how to install a GDM theme? (Login screen)
[07:06] <mustard5> tyler, it has an install button in there ..now that I am looking
[07:06] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo: I'm using either Alchol 120% or nero.  I'll try that under Nero and see what happens.
[07:06] <mustard5> tyler, is that the one you say is not working?
[07:06] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know how to set access privileges for a certain mount/partition? I want to use /main/ like I do /home/, I don't want to have to move stuff via terminal just to install something with privileges.
[07:06] <crimsun> tyler: System> Administration> Login Window
[07:06] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: nero supports burning mode 1 & disk at once - maybe burn at a slower rate as well
[07:07] <Jeeves_moss> I wonder why it liked the Suse install disk?
[07:07] <Ubuntu27> k3b dosn't support MP3 ?
[07:07] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo: I wonder why it liked the Suse install disk?
[07:07] <bense> about time
[07:07] <bense> since there is nothing on the frontpage of the site
[07:07] <tyler> crimsun, thanks, thats it
[07:08] <Xperience> whats a good ac3 codec?
[07:08] <Xperience> i need one
[07:08] <bense> can someone please explain to me the difference between ubuntu and "every other" distrobution
[07:08] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: 2 possibilities obviously - either your CD doesn't like the CD (mode problem) or Ubuntu doesn't like your hardware
[07:08] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  how would one go about finding out what one is the case?
[07:08] <crimsun> bense: your question is answered in the myriad users' reviews as well as Mark Shuttleworth's wiki page
[07:08] <Ubuntu27> guys....
[07:09] <mustard5> bense, not in one sentence..although 'a desktop distro', might be appropriate
[07:09] <Ubuntu27> Is there a way to add MP3 support for/to K3b ?
[07:09] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: burn again at a slower speed - selecting "disk at once" and mode 1 - if it still fails, then it's a driver/hardware issue
[07:09] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know how to set access privileges for a certain mount/partition? I want to use /main/ like I do /home/, I don't want to have to move stuff via terminal just to install something with privileges.
[07:09] <Xperience> whats a good ac3 codec?
[07:09] <bense> okay, so you realize that it is to your advantage that the more people use ubuntu, the better off the distro is.
[07:09] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  ok, thanks.  I'll give it a try.
[07:09] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: but would be very interested to know the reason if you find it - theres been a couple of people with the same problem
[07:09] <bense> and i am sure that i am not the only person who is deterred by the fact that i am having to come to the IRC channel
[07:10] <bense> to find out what the objective of this distro is
[07:10] <tyler> What is XMMS?
[07:10] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  I'd just like to know that this server that I bought with the fiance's christmas $$ went to a good cause.
[07:10] <frogzoo> tyler: a music player
[07:10] <SweetestSavage> tyler: A media player, similar to WinAMP
[07:10] <Ubuntu27> XMMS = X Multimedia System. It is a clon of Windows's Winamp
[07:10] <Xperience> where can i get a good ac3 codec/
[07:10] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, would need to edit your fstab mount options
[07:11] <seth_k|lappy> is there someone here with ops that can /query me the contents of the op access list for #ubuntu? I'm working on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCOperators
[07:11] <tyler> Is it better than the default music player?
[07:11] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, to what?
[07:11] <Jeeves_moss> ubuntu27: X Media is a KICK BUTT MP3 player!!!  it looks and behaves JUST like Winamp.  My fiance can't figure out how to get out of linux, but she can run it.
[07:11] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: if it's new hardware - then that's not the problem - the problem I guess is that the drivers on the Ubuntu disk can't properly handle the hardware
[07:11] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, probably the same as you have for /home
[07:11] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I don't offhand :)
[07:11] <mustard5> *know
[07:11] <tyler> SweetestSavage, is it better than Rythmbox?
[07:11] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  thats the problem.  its a gen 1 DL380
[07:11] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I'll have a look around for some answers
[07:11] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, that's the problem.. it isn't listed in the fstab =S
[07:11] <SweetestSavage> tyler, I would say so.
[07:11] <SweetestSavage> tyler, I use it. XMMS and beep-media-player are popular ones
[07:12] <Ubuntu27> Hey Jeeves. Yeah, XMMS works wonderfully :)
[07:12] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, okay thank you
[07:12] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I'll show you mine perhaps?  I have a seperate home partition
[07:12] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: hey, i'm on top of the list :)
[07:12] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, sure =)
[07:12] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  here is my beast... http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl380/index-1ghz.html  (mine is a dual 933 though)
[07:13] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: known problem it seems: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81817.html
[07:13] <starpause> SweetestSavage: is there anything as simple and elegant as foobar2k running around for ubuntu? linux seems to have mostly winamp and itunes clones
[07:13] <SweetestSavage> starpause, I've never heard of foobar2k, this is a windows application you're talking about?
[07:13] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, it doesnt look much different to any of the others. :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5986
[07:14] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: looks like the scsi raid controller needs a driver
[07:14] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I imagine that is due to the permissions and ownership of the files/folders being set already
[07:14] <Jeeves_moss> hummm, any ideas?
[07:14] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, which one is mounted as your separate home?
[07:14] <linuxboy> when I click places in ubuntu. I get Home Folder and Desktop. After those 2 I have another folder which exists on my drive. How do I remove it from that list?
[07:14] <starpause> SweetestSavage: it is, sorry ... i just installed ubuntu today =)
[07:14] <seife> Is there anyway to install a wireless pcmcia device in linux that is not supported?
[07:14] <SweetestSavage> starpause, no problem I installed it about 3 days ago ;)
[07:14] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, /dev/hdb9  mounted on /home
[07:14] <tyler> SweetestSavage, how do i install an XMMS theme, once downloaded?
[07:14] <SweetestSavage> starpause, I only ever used WinAMP when I was using Windows
[07:15] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  why can't ANYTHING I do be SIMPLE?  LOL  Any ideas?
[07:15] <SweetestSavage> tyler, go to your file browser, open up "home" and right click, open location and type /.xmms
[07:15] <SweetestSavage> It should be obvious from there
[07:15] <starpause> SweetestSavage, ah cool ... just wondering out loud really =) will poke around more
[07:15] <seife> Is there anyway to install a wireless pcmcia device in linux that is not supported?
[07:15] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, maybe you need to do a chown command on the /main/ folder to change ownership?
[07:16] <SweetestSavage> starpause, no problem
[07:16] <Davey> seife, ndiswrapper might work?
[07:16] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, that's possible, I'll have to do a man command on that one
[07:16] <Psycho78m> i am at xserver xorg, and i have a really old nvidia geforce2 card, what do i select from the list of options?
[07:16] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, it would be something like sudo chown username:username /main/
[07:16] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, all of mine are set to 0<tab>0, while some of yours are 0<tab>2, what's the difference?
[07:17] <SweetestSavage> Oh wait sorry
[07:17] <SweetestSavage> 0<tab>1
[07:17] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, that would change the user and group to your username
[07:17] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo: you still with me?
[07:17] <seife> on the ndiswrapper webpage says that my device is brand is not supported
[07:17] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I have no idea
[07:17] <tyler> SweetestSavage, im in home, but open location isn't an option when i right cilck?
[07:17] <SweetestSavage> You're in the file browser?
[07:17] <mustard5> tyler choose 'show hidden files' from the menu
[07:18] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: do you have the cpqarray module driver?
[07:18] <linuxboy> when I click "Places" in ubuntu, I get Home Folder and Desktop. After those 2 I have another folder which exists on my drive. How do I remove it from that list?
[07:18] <mustard5> tyler then look for .xmms?
[07:18] <mustard5> tyler files with a dot in front of them are hidden files
[07:18] <seife> Davey, u read?
[07:18] <tyler> mustard5, thank you
[07:18] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  no?  I just d-loaded the disk and went to install.  I don't have ANY drivers.  I'm currently on my M$ box, and I'm VERY new to Linux. (I can get around well enough to survive (its been my pet project for a month now))
[07:20] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: can you get to a command prompt from the installer? (ctrl + alt + F2 perhaps?)
[07:20] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, chown will change ownership and chmod will change permissions anyway :)
[07:20] <Davey> seife, no, I'm on IRC for the pretty colors
[07:20] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, just watch out what you type in so you don't chown on system files :)
[07:20] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, so I'm assuming I only need to use chown?
[07:20] <SweetestSavage> Ah, yeah of course
[07:20] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  can we open a seprate chat window to chat so I don't get lost in the convo?
[07:21] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, chown sounds like the way to go
[07:21] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  I can't spell as you can see.
[07:21] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, how exactly do I use it..? It says.. Usage: chown [OPTION] ... OWNER[:[GROUP] ]  FILE...
[07:21] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, I'm assuming the files are set as read only or something inside that partition, if so you would have to chmod them
[07:21] <SweetestSavage> I'm not sure I understand the group part
[07:21] <seife> Is there anyway to install a wireless pcmcia device in linux that is not supported?
[07:21] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, it would be something like sudo chown username:username /main/
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Right, but what would I put in for both usernames? o.O
[07:22] <robotgeek> seife: still stuck with that marvel thing?
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Like, the one I login with?
[07:22] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, your username
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Sorry, just the two username thing is confusing me
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Alright
[07:22] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, yep
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Alright.. let's see if that worked
[07:22] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, one is for user and the other is for group
[07:22] <seife> robotgeek, yes. cant get em working
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Woo!
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> mustard5, you're my hero, it worked! =)
[07:23] <mustard5> SweetestSavage, np
[07:23] <SweetestSavage> Ah this'll save me a lot of hassle
[07:23] <robotgeek> seife: hmm, someone else, dougsko , i think was trying to get that working too
[07:23] <seife> this same device?
[07:25] <varsendagger> how do i make an iso out of a cd?
[07:25] <cafuego> seife: On i386, yes. Otherwise, no.
[07:25] <seife> cafuego, i have i386, how i do it
[07:25] <varsendagger> anyone?
[07:26] <cafuego> seife: Via ndiswrapper
[07:26] <frogzoo> varsendagger: simple 'sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/xxx.iso bs=1024"
[07:26] <cafuego> seife: Oh, it's it's USb you're probably also out of luck.
[07:26] <prabu^> Hello
[07:26] <seife> cafuego, its pcmcia
[07:26] <prabu^> I would like a lil help how do i install i386.debs on amd64
[07:27] <tyler> Whats the command to install the mp3 codec?
[07:27] <cafuego> seife: pcmcia or cardbus?
[07:27] <frogzoo> prabu^: probly not a great idea
[07:27] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo:  seeing as I'm installing this as a server, I'm guessing that you'll help me in a command line format?
[07:27] <seife> cafuego, cardbus
[07:27] <cafuego> seife: Yeah, ndiswrapper ought to do the trick, then.
[07:27] <varsendagger> frogzoo, waht does dd do?
[07:27] <prabu^> yea but how do i do that ?
[07:27] <seife> cafuego, how i do that trick
[07:27] <cafuego> seife: Via the Ubuntu wiki and google.
[07:28] <eobanb> prabu^, you basically can't.
[07:28] <frogzoo> varsendagger: reads the cd block by block & writes the disk image - simple
[07:28] <prabu^> ah dang ok
[07:28] <seife> link me, ndiswrapper says that advantek brand is not supported :/
[07:28] <prabu^> guess i gotta compile stuff from source :S
[07:28] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: wanna take this to IM?
[07:28] <Jeeves_moss> sure, MSN?
[07:28] <eobanb> prabu^, what are you trying to install
[07:28] <prabu^> jahshaka
[07:28] <cafuego> seife: Well, then it's not supported eh? Why waste more time on it?
[07:28] <varsendagger> and xxx.iso is waht i name it?
[07:28] <Davey> hrm, xxx.iso? sounds like a pr0n movie :)
[07:29] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: dunno, just clicked on your username "IM" - I was assuming that would open a channel to you, but it seems no
[07:29] <Jeeves_moss> ok, do you have MSN installed?  (or aMSN?)
[07:29] <seife> bah
[07:30] <seife> what u guys prefer a pcmcia device or a usb one
[07:30] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: -> #jeeves_moss
[07:30] <seife> i mean wireless card
[07:30] <eobanb> seife, pcmcia.
[07:30] <seife> eobanb, why
[07:30] <varsendagger> frogzoo,
[07:30] <varsendagger> and xxx.iso is waht i name it?
[07:30] <eobanb> seife, they generally work better with linux, plus it's not this thing flopping about but rather a card inside one's notebook.
[07:31] <frogzoo> varsendagger: correct - then you just burn that iso to a fresh blank CD & away you go
[07:31] <eobanb> also usb wifi hardware tends to be rather low-power
[07:31] <varsendagger> great
[07:31] <prabu^> another question is there a way to start up services without creating a whole script for it ?
[07:31] <prabu^> like in some distros init.local
[07:32] <frogzoo> prabu^: look for something like /etc/rc2.d/S99local
[07:32] <prabu^> alright
[07:32] <Jeeves_moss> frogzoo: the_doc_2@hotmail.com
[07:32] <frogzoo> Jeeves_moss: just /join #jeeves_moss
[07:32] <varsendagger> frogzoo, thanks
[07:33] <prabu^> ermm not there :S
[07:36] <Psycho78m> i am really really stuck now.  i have tried for the past 45 minutes configuring the graphics card in xserver xorg, and i still have nothing.  it's an nvidia card
[07:36] <_tyler165> Question: I have an internal and a PCMCIA wireless card on my laptop.  I installed the Dell drivers to make my internal card work, but for some reason the PCMCIA one is the only one that works! Any clue what to do?
[07:36] <Badm4n> how to install macromedia flash player for firefox ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:36] <Badm4n> auto install plugin are failed
[07:36] <_tyler165> Question: Where can I find a Firefox1.5 installation tutorial?
[07:36] <Psycho78m> i found one on the site tyler
[07:36] <Psycho78m> look in the wiki
[07:36] <_tyler165> Which site?
[07:37] <_tyler165> ok
[07:37] <_tyler165> ty
[07:37] <Psycho78m> i cant even get to that part yet
[07:38] <Madpilot> Psycho78m: have you seen the Ubuntu wiki's Nvidia page?
[07:38] <Psycho78m> yes, several of them
[07:38] <Badm4n> how to install macromedia flash player for firefox ubuntu 5.10 ? cause auto install said : faild .. is there an easy way to install it ? cause im new here
[07:38] <Psycho78m> Madpilot: ive tried choosing nv, and everything else
[07:39] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[07:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:39] <Madpilot> Psycho78m: the first link above ^^^
[07:39] <Psycho78m> i went to the first
[07:39] <Psycho78m> ok, ill try it again
[07:39] <Psycho78m> wait, thats from within gnome
[07:40] <Psycho78m> i cant even get to gnome
[07:41] <CuriousCat> a friend of mine is trying to install ubuntu on his PC, but it keeps hanging after the partioning phase. Would anyone have an idea on what could be happening and how to make it install normally?
[07:41] <Badm4n> any1 plsss
[07:41] <Badm4n> how to install macromedia flash player for firefox ubuntu 5.10 ? cause auto install said : faild .. is there an easy way to install it ? cause im new here
[07:42] <Eleaf> Badm4n, go to macromedia's website and download the linux flash player
[07:42] <Tomcat_> Badm4n: What do you mean, auto install? The Firefox thing?
[07:42] <No1Viking> !tell Badm4n about flash
[07:42] <cafuego> Just install the package.
[07:42] <Tomcat_> Badm4n: Because there's a package for it that No1Viking just told you. :)
[07:42] <Badm4n> how
[07:42] <Eleaf> just follow the install instructions from there, you have to install it using the terminal Badm4n
[07:42] <borisattva> bad: i just installed this thing too :) closest i found is you need to intsall crossfade plugin for firefox which will allow you installing windows based plugins for linux
[07:42] <Badm4n> from the link install missing plugin
[07:42] <Badm4n> failed
[07:42] <cafuego> Eleaf: Stop giving incorrecta dvice.
[07:42] <Badm4n> is there any easy ways
[07:42] <Eleaf> cafuego, ?
[07:43] <Badm4n> cause if i choose manual i must tar ball the files
[07:43] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla'
[07:43] <Eleaf> Badm4n, that's what I did
[07:43] <Tomcat_> Eleaf: Installing from Macromedia is not the easiest way. :)
[07:43] <cafuego> ... and done.
[07:43] <No1Viking> !tell Badm4n about flash
[07:43] <Eleaf> cafuego, it still works fine rargh
[07:43] <borisattva> !tell borisattva about lan url
[07:43] <CuriousCat> hallo? :-/
[07:43] <Eleaf> ok that way is easier then
[07:43] <cafuego> Eleaf: it leaves unpackages cruft all over the system.
[07:43] <Kuyaedz> can anyone help me with a basic shell command to find & replace text in multiple files?
[07:43] <Badm4n> cafuego, i'll try
[07:43] <No1Viking> Badm4n, read text from ubotu, there you have the right instructions
[07:43] <cafuego> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[07:44] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[07:44] <cafuego> Just make sure 'multiverse' is enabled.
[07:44] <borisattva> is there anyway to access NAS content via file manager? like in windows it would be //Computername/subfolder etc
[07:44] <Badm4n> Get:2 http://kambing.vlsm.org breezy/multiverse flashplayer-mozilla 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 [980kB] 
[07:44] <Badm4n> on the way
[07:45] <Eleaf> cafuego, aie ok
[07:45] <cafuego> borisattva: places -> Connect to server...
[07:45] <Eleaf> cafuego, it still worked fine for me... tsksjxz.,s
[07:45] <cafuego> Eleaf: Yes, except when you update i next time and are left with partial old versions.
[07:46] <borisattva> cafuego: i found that no probelm navigating to file, but if i for example want to add a folder on NAS to a media player, it only allows me to select folders from file system.. is there a round about way from within folders to network contents? i pocked around coundt find it
[07:47] <cafuego> borisattva: Not unless you use a gnome-vfs savvy audio player. You can mount those shares via /etc/fstab though. fstype 'smbfs'.
[07:47] <borisattva> cool! i'll look into that. thanks
[07:47] <Eleaf> cafuego, then I will have to remove them manually and have a slightly closer bond with my system =-> l
[07:48] <cafuego> Eleaf: Or you could just install the package to begin with and waste far less time.
[07:48] <tyche> I'm looking for a new and fun project to mess with, anyone have any good apps they have found lately?
[07:48] <Eleaf> cafuego, well I already did it this way
[07:48] <Madpilot> tyche: Scribus is cool
[07:49] <Eleaf> tyche, are you interested in any graphics or 3d apps?
[07:49] <cafuego> tyche: inkscape
[07:49] <Badm4n> cafuego, Setting up flashplayer-mozilla (7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1) ...
[07:49] <Badm4n>  done ... thx for your help
[07:49] <Madpilot> in MySQL, how can I completely remove a database?
[07:49] <cafuego> Badm4n: Don't forget to restart firefox.
[07:49] <Am|Sleep> !lart cafuego
[07:50] <Am|Sleep> cafuego: Can that be removed?
[07:50] <cafuego> Am|Sleep: Yes, it can.
[07:50] <cafuego> Am|Sleep: or you could just not abuse it ;-)
[07:50] <Madpilot> Am|Sleep: what, no more larting? :P
[07:50] <tyche> eleaf: Anything really
[07:50] <Am|Sleep> cafuego: Some people were abusing it the other day. And it just doesn't seem appropriate.
[07:51] <cafuego> ubotu: piss off
[07:51] <ubotu> cafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:51] <tyche> madpilot: drop database
[07:51] <inf3cted> Hello again
[07:51] <inf3cted> mustard5:
[07:51] <Madpilot> tyche: thanks
[07:51] <Eleaf> tyche, Jashaka seems kinda cool http://www.jahshaka.org/content/blogcategory/1/46/ realtime video editing and effects
[07:51] <tyche> madpilot: make sure it is the one you want...no second chances
[07:51] <mustard5> inf3cted, yeah?
[07:52] <inf3cted> I was following everything on the howto.. but when I restart it show me an error , something about Screen 0 undefined
[07:52] <Badm4n> how to check is my sound card are ready to use and detected by ubuntu 5.10 ? ( ps : i dont have speaker rite now )
[07:52] <Madpilot> tyche: I need to nuke a DB and reinstall some stuff :P so it's "drop database <name of database>"?
[07:52] <inf3cted> mustard5: is actually on the ServerLayout
[07:52] <inf3cted> at the end of the xorg
[07:52] <mustard5> inf3cted, hmmm...well I don't know enough to comment much :)
[07:52] <tyche> madpilot: that should work for you if you are at the Mysql command line
[07:53] <inf3cted> ok, thx anyway mustard5
[07:53] <cafuego> Madpilot: if no user has the db open, 'rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/<name of db>' works fine too.
[07:53] <cafuego> !lart Am|Sleep
[07:53] <cafuego> useless pos
[07:53] <Madpilot> tyche: thanks, that worked
[07:53] <mustard5> inf3cted, you could always backup this xorg.conf and go back to using something that works for a while if you need to
[07:53] <JFlash> what's a good application to seach and download mp3 in linux?
[07:54] <Madpilot> cafuego: it was in use, by the messed-up app i need to reinstall...
[07:54] <inf3cted> JFlash:  I use LimeWire
[07:54] <mustard5> inf3cted, at least then you don't lose what you have done so far
[07:54] <JFlash> is it in java?  :(
[07:54] <inf3cted> well mustard5  I hope so lol
[07:54] <inf3cted> JFlash:  yes
[07:55] <Eleaf> mmmmmm
[07:55] <cafuego> !lart Am|Sleep
[07:55] <inf3cted> JFlash: in the website it show u how to install it
[07:55] <cafuego> hey ho
[07:55] <inf3cted> also in the java website it show u how to install it too
[07:56] <Madpilot> cafuego: so what're we supposed to do when we're bored now? :P no lart to entertain us!
[07:56] <mustard5> inf3cted, do you check your Xorg.0.logs for errors afterwards?
[07:56] <cafuego> Madpilot: take it up with Amaranth :-)
[07:56] <inf3cted> mustard5: how can I check that? i forgot :(
[07:56] <cafuego> !start an editor war
[07:56] <ubotu> gedit is better than xemacs.
[07:56] <mustard5> inf3cted, they are in var/log
[07:56] <Eleaf> do you guys reccomend that I reinstall ubuntu if I put in a new motherboard?
[07:56] <inf3cted> ok let me cv
[07:56] <inf3cted> let me c
[07:56] <cafuego> Eleaf: No.
[07:56] <mustard5> inf3cted, ls to list the files and cat to open them
[07:56] <cafuego> Eleaf: The kernel already has *all* drivers.
[07:57] <Eleaf> cafuego, alright!
[07:57] <Eleaf> cafuego, However, I may be upgrading to a 64 bit processor
[07:57] <inf3cted> mustard5:  I almos open it with nano lol
[07:57] <inf3cted> *almost
[07:57] <Eleaf> I'll have to reinstall that right?
[07:58] <mustard5> inf3cted, well it would still work I suppose :)
[07:58] <inf3cted> let me c anyway mustard5
[07:58] <woz> why can't I su in ubuntu?
[07:58] <mustard5> inf3cted, you might find clues in there...and additionally it gives you something else to post in a forum to help others diagnose your problem
[07:58] <woz> do i just have to add my user to wheel?
[07:59] <inf3cted> oks mustard5 , i found the erro, is still the same.. undefined Scren "Screen0"
[07:59] <Eleaf> Is anybody familiar with nfs?
[07:59] <inf3cted> on the "TwinView Configuration"
[08:00] <cafuego> Eleaf: yah
[08:00] <cafuego> woz: Use 'sudo' instead of 'su'.
[08:00] <Eleaf> ok, cafuego I had nfs set up and working perfectly just the other day or so.
[08:00] <mustard5> inf3cted, hmm k.. try googling the error message..or searching the ubuntu forums for the error message..thats my best advice..thats how I would proceed
[08:00] <woz> what if i'd rather use su once in a while?
[08:00] <mustard5> inf3cted, I really have no idea what it means :)
[08:01] <robotgeek> woz: why? you can get a root shell with sudo -i
[08:01] <Eleaf> Now, I come to my computer a few days later, and no computer can connect to the nfs share, saying "Permission Denied"
[08:01] <inf3cted> thats ok mustard5  i already did 2 much
[08:01] <woz> oh ok
[08:01] <inf3cted> thx anyway
[08:01] <cafuego> woz: add "alias su='sudo -u root'" to $SHELLRC
[08:01] <mustard5> inf3cted, k
[08:01] <robotgeek> cafuego: :)
[08:01] <inf3cted> I believe I have to go back to my old xorg
[08:01] <eobanb> cafuego, haha
[08:01] <woz> why doesn't the install let me set the root password separate?
[08:01] <mustard5> inf3cted, better luck on another day perhaps :)
[08:01] <cafuego> !tell woz -about rootsudo
[08:01] <eobanb> woz, there is no root password
[08:01] <cafuego> Read and enjoy.
[08:01] <crimsun> woz: you can; you just need to use the expert mode install
[08:02] <woz> damnit i should have done that
[08:02] <dooglus> woz: if you want to set your root password, type "sudo passwd"
[08:02] <Eleaf> now the reason why I think it is doing this is because for some reason, my router changed it's ip, it would assign addresses as 192.168.1.xxx, but now it assigns them as 192.168.45.xxx, cafuego !
[08:02] <cafuego> Eleaf: Check syslog on thge server, see if portmap got updated without the nfs services being retsrated...
[08:02] <woz> yeah... it just seems backwards
[08:02] <Eleaf> so I updated the hosts.allow and updated my firewall to accept the new addresses but it still wont let any connections
[08:03] <cafuego> woz: if you read the url ubotu told you about, you'd know why.
[08:03] <Eleaf> I also can't connect from locally from the system serving the nfs share
[08:03] <eobanb> i think it's a self-correcting system, personally....if you dont know how to set a root password you have no business enabling root....
[08:03] <Madpilot> eobanb: interesting way to look at it... :P
[08:03] <cafuego> Eleaf: Check the syntax of /etc/exports, make sure the nfs server is in fact running.
[08:03] <Eleaf> it is
[08:03] <Badm4n> how to check is my sound card are ready to use and detected by ubuntu 5.10 ? ( ps : i dont have speaker rite now )
[08:04] <woz> is anyone familiar with www.projectblackdog.com?
[08:04] <eobanb> Badm4n, use some headphones??
[08:04] <Eleaf> /mnt/shared     192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,sync)
[08:04] <Badm4n> nope
[08:04] <Badm4n> no external rite no
[08:04] <inf3cted> lol I'm here again lol
[08:04] <deFrysk> Badm4n, test it with a headphone
[08:04] <eobanb> Badm4n, well go find some
[08:04] <cafuego> Badm4n: 'cat /proc/asound/card0/id'
[08:04] <Badm4n> :) so i cant check by voice only by drivers .. how to do that
[08:04] <nox-Hand> Who in here has had Gentoo?
[08:04] <Badm4n> :D
[08:04] <woz> i use gentoo
[08:04] <inf3cted> hey mustard5  do u remember the command to run the nvidia settings? something like configure-glx enable
[08:04] <Eleaf> but doing mount localhost:/mnt/shared /path/to/mount doesn't even work..
[08:04] <nox-Hand> woz: What are you doing here then?
[08:04] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she# cat /proc/asound/card0/id
[08:04] <Badm4n> V8235
[08:04] <Badm4n> root@tequila:/home/she#
[08:04] <Badm4n> is that mean... the soundcard work ?
[08:05] <woz> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop
[08:05] <cafuego> Badm4n: Detected & working.
[08:05] <Badm4n> cafuego, thx again
[08:05] <mustard5> inf3cted, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:05] <woz> nox-Hand, i was told it would be quick
[08:05] <nox-Hand> woz: Ah, well that is true. Gentoo and laptops can be hard work. Just installed my first Gentoo.
[08:05] <inf3cted> thx mustard5
[08:05] <mustard5> inf3cted, you have a legacy card don't you?
[08:05] <cafuego> woz: What? An OS that requires hours of compilation? No.
[08:05] <xenex> i am having problems with my wireless card, netgear wg511v2
[08:05] <woz> nox-Hand, i like the emerge system with gentoo
[08:05] <Badm4n> gentoo ? the hard distro :(
[08:05] <Eleaf> cafuego, in syslog it says mount request from unknown host 127.0/0.1
[08:05] <mustard5> inf3cted, do they use the same command?
[08:05] <nox-Hand> woz: Runs a lot better than Ubuntu for me
[08:05] <xenex> i know i have to install the drivers myself and such
[08:05] <Eleaf> 127.0.0.1*
[08:06] <xenex> but can i insert the cd and use those drivers?
[08:06] <robotgeek> xenex: do you know which ones?
[08:06] <woz> nox-Hand, I like to only install what I use
[08:06] <cafuego> Eleaf: Yes, note how 127.0.0.1 isn't in 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
[08:06] <xenex> ive read the forums and people have said to use win2k drivers
[08:06] <xenex> but i dont know if the cd is win2k or not
[08:06] <inf3cted> mustard5:  here is what I have: 2 video cards: nvidia GForce4 MX 4000 and nvidia GForce2 MX 400
[08:06] <nox-Hand> woz: that is why  I chose Gentoo. :) But I am crappy at it still ;)
[08:07] <Eleaf> ok
[08:07] <inf3cted> the GForce4 is gls
[08:07] <Eleaf> but cafuego, 192.168.45.103 is
[08:07] <woz> nox-Hand, there is an entire channel for gentoo...
[08:07] <jgrieves_away> !ati
[08:07] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:07] <Eleaf> and it says unknown host from that
[08:07] <mustard5> inf3cted, I would imagine the gf2 is an older card using legacy drivers?
[08:07] <woz> nox-Hand, not sure how helpful they are
[08:07] <inf3cted> danm it mustard5  what is the command again? lol sorry
[08:07] <nox-Hand> woz. I am there ;)
[08:07] <Eleaf> ooo
[08:07] <nox-Hand> Oh, gotta go.
[08:07] <nox-Hand> Byee
[08:07] <mustard5> inf3cted, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:07] <Eleaf> hold on..
[08:07] <cafuego> Eleaf: No, it is not.
[08:07] <Eleaf> ok
[08:07] <inf3cted> yes mustard5  the older one the GForce2 is the one use Legacy
[08:07] <Eleaf> so the /255.255.255.0 means what?
[08:08] <cafuego> Eleaf: 192.168.1.*
[08:08] <Eleaf> oi ok
[08:08] <cafuego> Eleaf: So you'd be after 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0
[08:08] <mustard5> inf3cted, hmm..k..I just wonder how you have both the legacy drivers and normal nvidia drivers installed at the same time and whether they conflict
[08:08] <Eleaf> let me try this with 192.168.45.0/255.etc
[08:08] <cafuego> OR 192.168.45.0/255.255.255.0
[08:08] <Eleaf> ok
[08:08] <LordCrusader> what is the program for the dvd decoder on ubuntu?
[08:08] <inf3cted> thats the problem.. If I install the legacy automatically the glx is remove
[08:09] <mustard5> inf3cted, hmmm k..
[08:09] <cafuego> inf3cted: the legacy driver uses the legacy glx.
[08:09] <inf3cted> mustard5:  and if I install the older one it will remove the new one
[08:09] <jgrieves_away> will fglrx improve performance if i dont use games?
[08:09] <mustard5> inf3cted, makes it hard to set them up :)
[08:09] <jgrieves_away> i haven't looked into this
[08:09] <cafuego> inf3cted: they do the SAME thing, so cannot opeate at the same time.
[08:10] <inf3cted> cafuego: so u mean that I should install legacy glx?
[08:10] <jgrieves> will fglrx improve performance if i dont use games? first time i have actually used a ati card with ubuntu :)
[08:10] <cafuego> inf3cted: ... yep, and cross your fiongers that legacy works OK with the new card.
[08:10] <LordCrusader> any answeres for the decoder?
[08:10] <mustard5> cafuego, what would happen if he used the proprietory drivers?  would they handle both the legacy card and the new card at the same time?
[08:10] <kestas> LordCrusader, libdecss2 or something
[08:10] <levander> Anybody has tried to muck with their computer and make load times faster?
[08:10] <levander> like application load times i mean, like when you start firefox
[08:11] <cafuego> mustard5: Those *are* the proprietary drivers.
[08:11] <inf3cted> lol ok cafuego  so technicly I'm not going to be able to use 2 monitors with these video cards  right?
[08:11] <cafuego> mustard5: the ones from nvidia.com directly probably wouldn't work with the older card
[08:11] <mustard5> cafuego, k
[08:11] <cafuego> inf3cted: Well, you could trash both cards and get a single one with dual output :-)
[08:12] <inf3cted> thats sound fare lol  but those r 2 expensive
[08:12] <eobanb> inf3cted, what are the two cards
[08:13] <inf3cted> eobanb: I have the master one is GForce4 MX 4000 64 mb
[08:13] <jgrieves> will fglrx improve performance if i dont use games? first time i have actually used a ati card with ubuntu :)
[08:13] <eobanb> okay, and what is the other one?
[08:13] <inf3cted> the other one is GForce2 MX 400 32 mb
[08:13] <cafuego> jgrieves: No
[08:13] <Eleaf> cafuego, I updated everything with those new numbers, but it still says permission denied
[08:13] <JFlash> is Xmule safe to use?
[08:13] <_tyler165> I was trying to install FF1.5 but for some reason its not working.. how can I revert and start over?
[08:13] <eobanb> inf3cted, i dont think you need the legacy driver for those.
[08:13] <cafuego> inf3cted: Any nvidia card with both VGA and DVI out can run in dual-head mode.
[08:13] <eobanb> and if you do, inf3cted, version 7174 of the nvidia driver should support both of those cards.
[08:13] <jgrieves> cafuego thanks
[08:14] <unikon> ive got a question i hope can be answered,, i just downloaded ubuntu 5.10 breezy install for the pc from distrowatch  and the final file size is 617.2MB is that correct
[08:14] <cafuego> unikon: Check its md5sum
[08:14] <inf3cted> cafuego:  my GForce4 MX 4000 has VGA ans supervideo
[08:14] <cafuego> unikon: That's the only way to be sure.
[08:14] <unikon> ty] 
[08:14] <inf3cted> the otherone doesn't
[08:14] <cafuego> inf3cted: That can most likely to dualhead all by itself, then.
[08:15] <inf3cted> but how can I plug my other monitor using just one card?
[08:15] <Steil> inf3cted, some cards have dual output
[08:15] <cafuego> inf3cted: Plug one in via vga, the other via DVI.
[08:15] <inf3cted> mine doesn't Steil
[08:15] <inf3cted> DVI mean?
[08:15] <cafuego> Oh, it has s-vhs
[08:15] <cafuego> No, no good.
[08:15] <neopolitik> hi all
[08:16] <Steil> DVI is another type of connector, if theres only one connector you're out of luck
[08:16] <Steil> if theres another you can get a converter to plug in your vga monitor
[08:16] <cafuego> Check if it works with either driver.
[08:16] <Eleaf> cafuego, what else do I have to edit besides hosts.allow, exports?
[08:16] <inf3cted> yes Steil  I'm out of both thinks lol
[08:16] <cafuego> If not, email nvidia and ask them to 1) fix their drivers or 2) Give you a free card that works.
[08:16] <inf3cted> the only 2 connectors in my card are regular one and the supervideo one
[08:16] <cafuego> Eleaf: yep
[08:16] <JFlash> should I use Xmule or Amule?
[08:17] <Eleaf> cafuego, nothing else?
[08:17] <Toma-> JFlash: edonkey is down. neither.
[08:17] <neopolitik> try to install some vmware stuff.. I'm running kernel 2.6.12-10 but my headers in /usr/src/include/include/linux arer at -9 not -10 so it won't work.. and I don't see -10 in synaptic
[08:18] <cafuego> Eleaf: Just restart the nfs and portmap services
[08:18] <blanky> what's a good linux distro taht fits on a USB drive (256mb) I found slax popcorn edition, any else?
[08:18] <Eleaf> cafuego, I did
[08:18] <neopolitik> I'm trying, rather
[08:18] <inf3cted> ok thx anyway for everyone of u.. for the info.. I might need another card  lol
[08:18] <Eleaf> It still refuses connections though..
[08:18] <cafuego> Check logs
[08:18] <phrizer> blanky, for what purpose?
[08:19] <blanky> just general use :)
[08:19] <_tyler165> I was trying to install FF1.5 but for some reason its not working.. how can I revert and start over?
[08:19] <Ubuntu27> Bonjour !
[08:19] <Toma-> anyone know of a way to copy encrypted dvds in linux?
[08:19] <neopolitik> anyone know how to get the correct headers for one's current kernel in ubuntu?
[08:19] <Eleaf> cafuego, nothing else shows up in the logs
[08:20] <Mr_Milenko> yeah use windows or mac to do it then transfer
[08:20] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[08:20] <Ubuntu27> I need some help with K3b. Anybody ?
[08:20] <cafuego> Toma-: Yep
[08:20] <_tyler165> how do i download the mp3 codec thru apt-get?
[08:20] <phrizer> blanky, so you want x?
[08:20] <Tomcat_> _tyler165: Revert? Just delete what you installed. :o
[08:20] <Toma-> Ubuntu27: what do you need help with?
[08:20] <Toma-> cafuego: how?
[08:20] <Tomcat_> _tyler165: Or rather: Go back the steps you did to install it.
[08:20] <Ubuntu27> hi Toma.
[08:20] <blanky> phrizer, x? anything really, preferably just a command line with gcc and emacs lol
[08:21] <_tyler165> Tomcat_, it doesn't even work now since I followed the tutorial
[08:21] <blanky> but anything, something like slax popcorn
[08:21] <Ubuntu27> I get an error when i try to burn a Data CD
[08:21] <cafuego> Try dvdbackup
[08:21] <phrizer> blanky, ah. what about pebble? :o
[08:21] <Toma-> Ubuntu27: and the error is?
[08:21] <Toma-> thanks cafuego
[08:21] <blanky> phrizer, lol what?
[08:21] <Eleaf> cafuego, It still says unknown host
[08:21] <Ubuntu27> it says: "Could not determine size of resulting image file" BTY, I am running Ubuntu Breezy B.
[08:21] <Tomcat_> _tyler165: If you installed a package, uninstall it and reinstall the old firefox package; If you installed manually, delete the files.
[08:22] <Tomcat_> !tell _tyler165 about mp3
[08:22] <cafuego> Eleaf: Plonk an entry in /etc/hosts
[08:22] <neopolitik> if anyone knows anything about kernels and kernel headers, could you /msg me or something? I'm a bit lost here
[08:22] <_tyler165> Tomcat_, even if i delete it, 1.07 won't work.
[08:22] <Toma-> Ubuntu27: what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:22] <Tomcat_> _tyler165: Did you delete your profile in your home directory? 1.0.7 might not start when you still have a 1.5 profile.
[08:23] <glyph> Is there a channel to discuss dapper without giving people the wrong idea (to wit, that anyone *should* use it? :))
[08:23] <phrizer> blanky, http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/ though its more geared towards networking. might be useful.
[08:23] <Eleaf> cafuego, plonk? lol
[08:23] <_tyler165> Tomcat_, I'm not sure.. if you look at the wiki tutorial you could figure it out quickly im sure
[08:23] <Ubuntu27> Well, I am trying to burn different kind of files like picture (Jpeg) and Documents (Doc, and odt)
[08:23] <jbueler> can anyone help with install problem? " checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:23] <Ubuntu27> oh, yeah. And some files are Zipped.
[08:24] <blanky> phrizer, thanks
[08:24] <Madpilot> Ubuntu27: using which burning app?
[08:24] <phrizer> blanky, it has apt-get :)
[08:24] <Ubuntu27> yep.
[08:24] <blanky> so it's debian based? WOO!
[08:24] <Ubuntu27> Using K3b
[08:25] <anandaputra> what time is it?
[08:25] <phrizer> blanky, yep
[08:25] <blanky> cool!
[08:25] <blanky> hey phrizer, if I install it on my usb drive, and install some apps, they'll stay installed right? Cause I mean, it could store it on itself
[08:25] <blanky> it's not a CDROM where you cant store it on itself
[08:25] <Madpilot> Ubuntu27: k3b shouldn't care what's in a data CD, so long as it's not over the size limit, AFAIK...
[08:26] <anandaputra> community council meeting?
[08:26] <Ubuntu27> Well, and the thing is that It gimes the the error: Could not determine size of resulting image file
[08:26] <Eleaf> uhm
[08:26] <Eleaf> ,.
[08:26] <Madpilot> anandaputra: it was about eight hours ago, I think
[08:26] <blanky> phrizer, read above
[08:27] <Ubuntu27> The CD that I am trying to burn has 700 MB of capacity. And the total size of files that I want to burn is 695.6 MB
[08:27] <Eleaf> cafuego, permission denied..
[08:27] <phrizer> blanky, its a read only distro, but remoterw will mount the system in read/write mode, then install stuff.
[08:27] <Madpilot> Ubuntu27: no idea, sorry...
[08:27] <blanky> phrizer, okay thanks
[08:27] <phrizer> remountrw*
[08:27] <phrizer> rather.
[08:28] <Ubuntu27> Madpilot: I'ts alright. At least I know you tried to help me :)
[08:28] <unikon> ubuntu27 do what i just did verify the md5 sum
[08:28] <blanky> hey guys, if i have amd64, can i still get a normal i386 distro instead of AMD64, i just wont get the benefits right? but it'll work?
[08:28] <glyph> blanky: Yep.  I have an opteron with an i386 dist installed on it right now
[08:28] <Tomcat_> blanky: Ype.
[08:28] <Ubuntu27> ah? Why should I verify the MD5 if I didn't download anything ?
[08:29] <Ubuntu27> ***confused*** 0
[08:29] <phrizer> blanky, the installer is very basic, just copies the files across, edits some scripts/confs and runs lilo.
[08:29] <Eleaf> cafuego, ?
[08:29] <blanky> okay thanks guys
[08:29] <blanky> thanks phrizer
[08:30] <Ubuntu27> mm...
[08:30] <Ubuntu27> Do you guys think that my problem has to do by the fact that some of my files are in Japanese ?
[08:31] <Madpilot> Ubuntu27: try burning your data in Nautilus
[08:32] <iflipti> does anyone know how to enable an IEEE 1394 (firewire type) PCMCIA card?
[08:32] <Ubuntu27> amm... how do I do that? is that the same thing as... inserting blanc CD, and then choose "burn Data CD" ?
[08:32] <QQ_ghost> how do i install a .deb i downloaded...
[08:33] <iflipti> the card shows up in the device manager, I am receiving & sending packets to my wireless network, but the network only believes there's a modem connection in system> administration> networking
[08:33] <Madpilot> QQ_ghost: "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[08:33] <Madpilot> QQ_ghost: but if you can get it thru Synaptic/apt-get, that's even better...
[08:34] <QQ_ghost> Madpilot: thanx... just got fresh wine...
[08:34] <Ubuntu27> QQ_ghost: to install deb put this in Terminal
[08:34] <lampshade> QQ_ghost:  Keep in mind that if it is a Debian .deb it is not guaranteed to work on Ubuntu at all.  If it does, then that's ok, but no promises
[08:34] <Ubuntu27> QQ_ghost: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[08:34] <pinkisntwell> what do you people mean when saying "backports"?
[08:34] <iflipti> typingtesttesttest
[08:34] <deFrysk> !backports
[08:34] <ubotu> well, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:35] <QQ_ghost> pinkisntwell: you want to know what a back port is?
[08:36] <pinkisntwell> QQ_ghost: I understand from the webpage, thanks
[08:39] <iflipti> does anyone know about this problem I'm having?  I have a PCMCIA card that connects with IEEE1394 (firewire) networking.  The card is inserted and it shows up in the device manager, but in System> Administration> networking I have only a 64K modem recognized as a connection
[08:43] <Eleaf> cafuego, ?
[08:43] <iflipti> hello?
[08:43] <Eleaf> hi
[08:44] <Myrtti> hellooo
[08:44] <iflipti> does anyone know about this problem I'm having?  I have a PCMCIA card that connects with IEEE1394 (firewire) networking.  The card is inserted and it shows up in the device manager, but in System> Administration> networking I have only a 64K modem recognized as a connection
[08:44] <Myrtti> I did see that question of yours the first time
[08:45] <iflipti> yeah, it seems like no one's awake...
[08:45] <woz> hey, when i type ifconfig, it shows eth0, eth1, lo and sit0, but when I type ifconfig eth2, it shows the ip for eth2, is this supposed to be possible?
[08:45] <Myrtti> and I refrain from answering since I know nothing about the subject, like (I guess) most of us seem to do
[08:45] <anthony_> hello can anybody assist me in identifying me devices as in hda and hdb.
[08:45] <Madpilot> ...nobody awake who knows about firewire, perhaps :P
[08:45] <anthony_> i know hda is primary master
[08:45] <lampshade> woz:  I think so...
[08:45] <iflipti> eh, cest lae vie
[08:45] <lampshade> I could be wrong
[08:46] <woz> so... why can i not ping a device on the network connected with eth2?
[08:46] <woz> anthony, those would be hard drives
[08:47] <woz> anthony_*
[08:47] <anthony_> but do you know how everything is listed
[08:48] <anthony_> like whats a cdrom
[08:48] <woz> cdroms can also be hd
[08:48] <anthony_> or a secondary hard drive's partiton #2
[08:48] <woz> but if they're scsi they will be something else
[08:48] <woz> the partitions are going to be the numbers
[08:48] <woz> like hdb2
[08:49] <anthony_> ok let me see if this is right hda = primary(ide) master
[08:49] <woz> im not sure if that's always true, im not an expert in this, but i would guess so
[08:49] <anthony_> hdb = primary(ide) slave hdb?
[08:49] <ejofee> which one's faster as a calculator: awk, or bc?
[08:49] <woz> awk is a calculator?
[08:50] <anthony_> woz.....do you think a slave on a primary ide would be hdb
[08:50] <crimsun> ejofee: I think bc would be more natural in many respects
[08:50] <woz> yeah i think so
[08:50] <anthony_> then a cdrom would be hdc
[08:50] <anthony_> ?
[08:50] <woz> do you have a drive in every slot?
[08:51] <woz> you can test it by trying to mount each of them
[08:51] <anthony_> well i have 1 cd drive and 2 harddrives
[08:51] <woz> if you have no cd in the cd drive it wont mount
[08:51] <ejofee> crimsun: i don't know the bc equivalent for awk/python's "int(expr)"...
[08:51] <anthony_> ok thanks man
[08:52] <anthony_> i got it
[08:52] <anthony_> peace out
[08:52] <woz> k
[08:52] <woz> you could try the man page
[08:53] <Psycho78m> what is the command to get back to the xorg xserver thing to configure it again?
[08:53] <woz> xorgconf?
[08:54] <robotgeek> Psycho78m, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg
[08:54] <Psycho78m> to where it asks you about video card and keyboard info
[08:54] <Psycho78m> thank you
[08:54] <robotgeek> make that xserver
[08:54] <Psycho78m> ok
[08:55] <Psycho78m> is it worth it to keep trying to figure out how to get this really old nvidia2 card working, or to go out and buy a cheap but effective one?
[08:55] <Psycho78m> because i almost give up
[08:56] <lampshade> PsyberOne:  how old?  I ran into a problem where the only mistake I was making was trying to use the normal drivers when the card had been switched over to legacy?  That's not the problem you are having is it?
[08:56] <pinkisntwell> I have enabled file sharing on SMB but I don't see samba running in system monitor
[08:56] <unikon> holy crap im installing breezy on my 400mhz 128 ram dell L440c
[08:57] <unikon>  or can ubuntu install on a older pc than that
[08:57] <eobanb> Psycho78m, i'd try version 7174 of the nvidia driver
[08:57] <Sh4d0x> morning everybody
[08:57] <eobanb> unikon, ubuntu can install on pretty old hardware, it just won't run very well.
[08:57] <lampshade> I've had it on a 333mhz laptop once.  X took soooooooooooooooo long to boot
[08:57] <Psycho78m> hooold on i have a really long response here
[08:57] <unikon> hmm
[08:57] <sockpuppe1> lampshade my psp runs at about the same sped
[08:58] <sockpuppe1> *speed
[08:58] <unikon> well at least itll bring new life to this pc
[08:58] <Psycho78m> i somehow got into the os, the gui part, and followed directions and enabled legacy after installing all of it
[08:58] <Sh4d0x> lampshade, i guess the long booting is normal, when i'am booting it takes up to 2 minutes by "configuring network"
[08:58] <Psycho78m> and i switched settings in the bios to look for the pci card, and its just not working
[08:59] <Psycho78m> so im trying to use the onboard stuff to get back in and install, i guess 7174
[08:59] <Khisanth> running ubuntu on your psp?
[09:00] <pinkisntwell> how can I tell if samba is running?
[09:00] <sockpuppe1> nah, I should have been more specific there.. If there is a way for me to do so I probably would try it
[09:00] <woz> pinkisntwell, you could check top
[09:00] <lampshade> Psycho78m:hmmmm I don't know...  unfortunatel I'm __not__ that knowledgable on it :-/  sorry
[09:01] <Eleaf> cafuego, are you there??
[09:01] <Khisanth> pinkisntwell: ps -ef | grep samba should tell you
[09:01] <sockpuppe1> An emulator I had used indicated that i was running 333mhz, just a coincidence
[09:02] <pinkisntwell> Khisanth: it gives some numvers
[09:02] <Psycho78m> lampshade: thanks though
[09:02] <pinkisntwell> numbers*
[09:03] <Psycho78m> woo got to the login screen
[09:04] <maswan> hmm.. any chance of getting a 2.6.15 backport to breezy?
[09:04] <Psycho78m> gonna install me some.. something
[09:04] <Khisanth> pinkisntwell: how many lines?
[09:04] <pinkisntwell> one
[09:04] <pinkisntwell> Khisanth: is it running? why isn't it shown on system monitor?
[09:05] <Khisanth> pinkisntwell: does the line end with "grep samba"? :)
[09:05] <pinkisntwell> Khisanth: yes lol. so it isn't running?
[09:06] <an_drew> If I have win32 codecs installed shouldn't I be able to play .avi files?
[09:06] <pinkisntwell> Khisanth: why? I have enabled sharing for a directory and samba on the services dialog
[09:06] <Psycho78m> !nvidia
[09:06] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:07] <andres_> Hi guys, - I'd like to know, would I be able to use my internet connection as always if I reset my DSL Modem? ( DSL with Verizon ) - can anybody help me? I think the connection is not doing good in Ubuntu
[09:08] <Khisanth> pinkisntwell: hmm actually do ps -ef | grep smbd
[09:08] <Khisanth> or better yet, /etc/init.d/samba status
[09:09] <pinkisntwell> I get some results from ps grep smbd
[09:09] <pinkisntwell> so I'm ok I guess
[09:09] <Khisanth> pinkisntwell: the /etc/init.d/samba status should give pretty clear output as to whether or not it is running
[09:10] <grupo33> ola
[09:10] <eobanb> andres_, what's the problem?
[09:10] <grupo33> hello
[09:10] <andres_> routing i think
[09:10] <eobanb> hi, grupo33
[09:11] <grupo33> can you speak spanish please?
[09:11] <eobanb> !es
[09:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:11] <pinkisntwell> Khisanth: okay, thanks
[09:11] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me how to install my infraredport?
[09:11] <grupo33> i am from spain
[09:12] <Khisanth> is it raining?
[09:12] <eobanb> grupo33, the official language of this channel is english; if you can converse in english you're welcome to discuss ubuntu here; if you'd rather speak in spanish then i'd recommend #ubuntu-es
[09:13] <an_drew> If I have win32 codecs installed shouldn't I be able to play .avi files?
[09:13] <grupo33> how old are you eoband?
[09:13] <eobanb> i'm 19
[09:13] <grupo33> ok
[09:13] <Khisanth> an_drew: using mplayer?
[09:13] <Myrtti> grupo33: how old are you?
[09:14] <grupo33> im fourteen years old
[09:14] <Myrtti> ok
[09:14] <glyph> Myrtti: OMG LOL!  A/S/L!??
[09:14] <eobanb> =)
[09:14] <an_drew> khisanth: using anything.
[09:14] <andres_> routing problem / I'm not sure - if I reset the modem... would it work just fin pluggin it back? - or will I have to call Verizon tech ppl?
[09:14] <glyph> Myrtti: (It is generally poor manners to ask people how old they are on IRC...)
[09:14] <Myrtti> yes, I know
[09:14] <n0dl> how do i check my hard drive space in term?
[09:14] <Sh4d0x> glyph, yes it are nice ubuntu questions :D
[09:14] <coldburn> Sh4d0x: I have never tried to install an infrared port on ubuntu, you may want to check and see if the default kernel has infrared support enabled.
[09:15] <glyph> whoops
[09:15] <Myrtti> that's why I asked grupo33, since he asked it from eobanb. and btw, I'm 25/f/Tampere, Finland
[09:15] <Khisanth> an_drew: well either vlc or mplayer would work, never tried vlc myself ...
[09:15] <glyph> Myrtti: I meant to type "grupo33"... braino
[09:15] <eobanb> heh.
[09:15] <Sh4d0x> coldburn, eurhm, can you tell me where exactly i can see that, cus i'm only 3 days on ubuntu :$
[09:15] <an_drew> khisanth: Neither are playing it for me, and I'm confused as to why they won't. Any other file I can play WMA MPEG etc.
[09:16] <eobanb> andres_, i don't know your setup.  do you have a router or other nat device, or is your computer plugged directly into the dsl modem?
[09:16] <Sh4d0x> an_drew: beep-media-player works fine with me :)
[09:16] <andres_> eobanb: directly to the DSL modem
[09:16] <an_drew> Sh4d0x: for .avi files?
[09:16] <nguyen> hi i'm new at ubuntu
[09:16] <glyph> Myrtti: Haha!  25/m/Cambridge, MA USA - although that information is quickly available through google ;)
[09:17] <Sh4d0x> an_drew, wait, i'll test, but for .avi, why don't you use vlc, it def!! works, saw yesterday dark water in avi format with vlc :)
[09:17] <eobanb> andres_, are you using DHCP?
[09:17] <Myrtti> glyph: same here ;-)
[09:17] <andres_> yes
[09:17] <Khisanth> an_drew: run mplayer from a terminal and check the output
[09:17] <coldburn> Sh4d0x: Have you ever compiled a kernel before?
[09:17] <grupo33>  yo hablo en espaol
[09:17] <Sh4d0x> coldburn, no
[09:18] <grupo33> cdssmcgcdh
[09:18] <glyph> I suppose I should re-ask my on-topic question now that I've embroiled myself in a totally asinine discussion - any other dapper users here?  I was wondering if there is somewhere else I should go to talk about it since I suspect that "how do I run the latest unstable stuff" is a frequently mis-asked question
[09:18] <grupo33> dgakj
[09:18] <coldburn> Sh4d0x: ack
[09:18] <grupo33> hfdvdljhh
[09:18] <Khisanth> an_drew: oh and run "file foo.avi" and make sure it really is an avi
[09:18] <grupo33> dgrkjhcsji
[09:18] <grupo33> good buy
[09:18] <grupo33> bgfzzhjjjjjjjjjjjm
[09:18] <Myrtti> grupo33: quit it
[09:18] <grupo33> silly
[09:19] <grupo33> sit
[09:19] <an_drew> Khisanth: I'm not at that machine right now to test it. But it is an avi that I know was created in windows movie maker, could that be part of the problem?
[09:19] <grupo33> fucky
[09:19] <woz> does ifconfig work differently in ubuntu?
[09:19] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[09:19] <Madpilot> glyph: asking dapper questions here should be OK, provided you sound like you know what you're talking about :P
[09:19] <Sh4d0x> an_drew, nope, no .avi in bmp, but you should try vlc :)
[09:19] <Khisanth> an_drew: certainly could
[09:19] <Khisanth> an_drew: output in the terminal could be informative
[09:19] <glyph> Madpilot: OK.  How does "WTF is up with dbus today" sound? :)
[09:20] <Sh4d0x> coldburn, cus i got an internal infrared port on my notebook, it would be nice if i could get it working on ubuntu (don't want to switch to windoze to transfer a file)
[09:20] <glyph> Madpilot: I've got a lot of experience running debian unstable, but I don't know what's different / what I should expect from an unstable ubuntu dist
[09:20] <an_drew> Sh4d0x: I did try it in VLC and it didn't work.
[09:20] <coldburn> Sh4dox: well instead of having you poking around in make menuconfig since you have never done that before I will check one of the stock kernels to see if that is built in lol, gimme a sec
[09:20] <Sh4d0x> an_drew, do you have w32 codecs?
[09:20] <topyli> glyph: you should expect it to be much more broken at times
[09:21] <woz> coldburn, how will he learn if he never does it for a first time?
[09:21] <Madpilot> glyph: I don't know either, I like my computer to run, so I stay away from the dev versions of Ubuntu... :)
[09:21] <coldburn> woz: true that
[09:21] <an_drew> Sh4d0x: yep, I can play WMV and pretty much anything else but this .avi file. Maybe I should try with a different .avi since these were made in Windows Movie Maker
[09:22] <ssstormy> two questions
[09:22] <ssstormy> #1:  phpmyadmin will not remove because it can't find "db_get"
[09:22] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: what version of windows was movie maker with?
[09:22] <woz> i think i've assigned my computer at least 10 ip's on the same interface on an internal network... is that bad?
[09:22] <ssstormy> what package is that?  synaptic dosn't return anything that looks like db_get
[09:22] <woz> and how do I get one of those ip's to show up in ifconfig?
[09:23] <Steil> movie maker comes with XP
[09:23] <an_drew> QQ_ghost: XP
[09:23] <Sh4d0x> an_drew, uhu that can be a solution, or mayB the .avi file is damaged dunno, but normally vlc should do the trick :)
[09:23] <glyph> Madpilot: Perhaps that is a lead-in to another question though.  Breezy was crashing for me almost daily on this hardware; I had done everything short of a forensic analysis to find something in the logs about what caused the crash, and there was nothing.  I upgraded to dapper to get the newer kernel, fearing that upgrading the kernel without doing the attendant fixes in userspace would hork my installation into unbootability
[09:23] <Khisanth> an_drew: windows movie maker might have used a codec that neither of those can handle
[09:23] <glyph> Ever heard of anyone running a dapper kernel with a breezy userland?
[09:23] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: too bad... not too familiar with accessories in xp...
[09:23] <ssstormy> also, what do I do about dependencies?  I built mysql and apache from source, so now synaptic wants to return the apache and mysql packages to my system
[09:23] <ssstormy> cause it dosn't know about the source versions
[09:23] <an_drew> Khisanth: Yes, I'm beginning to think that windows movie maker is the problem here
[09:24] <redhook> how do I get ubuntu to mount ntfs partitions?
[09:24] <woz> glyph, why would the kernel matter?
[09:24] <an_drew> Khisanth Sh4d0x: thanks for the help
[09:24] <coldburn> Sh4d0x: try going to this thread and following some of the links there.  Also you may want to search the ubuntu forums more, there is a wealth of info on them.  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4015.html
[09:24] <Sh4d0x> redhook, in the wiki pages you find a lot of info :)
[09:24] <woz> (i'm used to gentoo where i would generally use whichever kernel version i like)
[09:24] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: is it possible to export it to a .wmv/.mpg instead of avi?
[09:24] <redhook> woz: thats what I use on my laptop
[09:24] <Sh4d0x> an_drew: yw :)
[09:24] <glyph> woz: When I say it "crashed", I mean the system would lock up tight, unpingable, completely at random... I had it narrowed down to "usually when I'm using the mouse"
[09:25] <Sh4d0x> coldburn, thnx a lot
[09:25] <glyph> woz: Might be the kernel, might be X, might be some bad hardware (but this is *brand new* hardware, that was extensively tested)
[09:25] <coldburn> np
[09:25] <redhook> woz: and you can compile your own kernel on any linux distro
[09:25] <woz> interesting
[09:25] <woz> redhook, yeah
[09:25] <an_drew> QQ_ghost: yes, I suppose. Would I be able to do that in linux though if it can't recognize the .ave in the first place?
[09:25] <ssstormy> is there any method to get synaptic to notice source installs I did myself?
[09:26] <woz> does no one in this channel know anything about networking?
[09:26] <glyph> woz: ubuntu provides various init scripts and initrd features that, if you want to have a kernel that plays nice with the hardware detection mojo that ubuntu provides, might screw up if you just build an obviously-configured kernel and install it yourself
[09:26] <redhook> woz: what do you need to know?
[09:26] <woz> redhook, trying to connect to a device over usb by using a driver that makes it look like a network device
[09:27] <woz> except i can't get myself an ip on thet device
[09:27] <redhook> woz: that makes no sense at all
[09:27] <coldburn> Anyone try to install ubuntu on a raid0 with any success? I am about at the end of my rope lol
[09:27] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: i meant go back to the xp machine and load the video and then "save as" .wmv or mpg
[09:27] <woz> redhook, sorry?
[09:27] <redhook> woz: should just pop up as a usb drive or device
[09:27] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: would that be possible?
[09:27] <woz> it is designed to pop up as a cdrom so that you can get the drivers from it
[09:27] <redhook> woz: what is the device?
[09:28] <an_drew> QQ_ghost: Yes, I suppose. Is there a good video editor for ubuntu?
[09:28] <woz> www.projectblackdog.com
[09:28] <Sh4d0x> guy's i'm off to school, c you there within 2 hours
[09:28] <Sh4d0x> cheers
[09:28] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: dunno...
[09:29] <andres_> ANYONE with nVidia drivers working ( compiled from sources ) ??? - I downloaded the binary with Aptitude but works PAINFULLY Slow compared to Suse's Binary Version... Suggestions?
[09:29] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: don't do much video these days
[09:29] <an_drew> QQ_ghost: cool, I'll look around thanks for your help
[09:29] <QQ_ghost> an_drew: wish i coulda helped more
[09:29] <coldburn> andres_  I have the newest version of the nvidia drivers installed.
[09:30] <redhook> woz: you might just be missing the ethernet over usb module
[09:30] <anandaputra> when is Community council meeting?
[09:30] <andres_> coldburn: from source or binary download from Ubuntu packages???
[09:30] <woz> it looks like it's working though
[09:30] <andres_> is it x86-64 ???
[09:30] <woz> my dmesg | tail looks like someone's that got it working
[09:31] <woz> but they used pump to get the network to work
[09:31] <andres_> nVidia display drivers / for X86-64 really slow on Ubuntu
[09:31] <woz> and when i run pump i get a weird error
[09:31] <SweetestSavage> G'night
[09:31] <glyph> woz: Wow, that device looks pretty amazing
[09:31] <woz> failed to connect to localhost:bootpc: Operation now in progress
[09:31] <woz> There might be another pump running!
[09:31] <woz> Operation failed.
[09:32] <woz> it works fine in windows
[09:32] <coldburn> andres_  I downloaded the 8174 drivers from the nvidia site and installed them with the nvidia installer, there is a good guide on how to do that here..   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074     use method 2
[09:32] <woz> since when does a linux device work better with windows than in linux
[09:32] <Madpilot> anandaputra: it's already happened today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC_2005-12-20
[09:33] <redhook> woz: the faq says "    When plugged into a Windows XP host computer, an X server is automatically launched. This X server is configured to allow clients running on BlackDog to connect, thus allowing for access to the keyboard, video, and mouse functions. A similar process happens for Linux/x86, but requires some manual configuration for the USB device.
[09:33] <woz> yeah... in windows you plug it in and you just wait for everything to pop up
[09:33] <redhook> see the bottom, you need to configure it
[09:33] <andres_> coldburn: thanks, ( and yes, when I said sources I ment the installer thing from nVidia / not the binary from ubuntu ehehe )
[09:34] <coldburn> andres_ heh =)
[09:34] <user1> \status
[09:34] <redhook> woz: personally I wouldnt have bought that device since it lacks ethernet
[09:34] <woz> but in linux, you have to configure the networking and such, so i'm following a tutorial someone wrote, but they use pump to configure the network and pump isn't working for me
[09:34] <user1> \join #cantabria
[09:34] <redhook> user1: /join
[09:35] <woz> eh, even if i can't ever get it working in linux, it's still worth it
[09:35] <robotgeek> woz: use dhclient
[09:35] <woz> works so well in windows
[09:35] <user1> \whois emmie
[09:35] <woz> receive_packet failed on eth2: Network is down
[09:35] <woz> DHCPDISCOVER on eth2 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[09:35] <woz> send_packet: Network is down
[09:36] <woz> i get that error repeatedly
[09:36] <anandaputra> which room community council meeting is held?
[09:36] <robotgeek> anandaputra: the meeting was over about 12 hours ago
[09:36] <robotgeek> anandaputra: in #ubuntu-meeting
[09:36] <gn0me> Hey, can anyone do me a favour and tell me the name of the nvidia package?
[09:37] <robotgeek> woz: try pulling your card out and try it again
[09:37] <anandaputra> :o
[09:37] <gn0me> I just switched video cards and I have no idea what it's called.
[09:37] <robotgeek> anandaputra: new member and all
[09:37] <coldburn> nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[09:37] <gn0me> Thank you, sir.
[09:37] <coldburn> np
[09:37] <glyph> gn0me: nvidia-glx, nvidia-settings, and linux-restricted-modules appropriate to your kernel
[09:37] <gn0me> I need to compile?
[09:37] <woz> i'll try rebooting it and doing the dhclient first
[09:37] <robotgeek> anandaputra: nevermind, i guess you can come back in 2 weeks time :)
[09:37] <anandaputra> i thought that's 20.00 UTC = 3.00 PM Indonesia time
[09:38] <anandaputra> argh...
[09:38] <robotgeek> anandaputra: aghh, too bad
[09:38] <coldburn> apt-get nvidia-glx should pull in restricted modules hehe, you don't need to compile unless you want the b=very latest drivers from nvidia, i believe the ones in the ubuntu repository are 7667
[09:38] <woz> unikon, did you get my messeges?
[09:38] <woz> unikon, said something about blocking unregistered users
[09:38] <gn0me> Yeh, I tried to compile the latest ones but my GCC version was different than what the kernel is compiled in and it didn't let me. :-\
[09:39] <redhook> robotgeek: he's using a usb device not a card
[09:39] <redhook> robotgeek: miniature linux server
[09:39] <andrewguy> Hey, I was wondering if you guys knew of a PPC distro of Ubuntu that would fix on a usb stick?
[09:39] <robotgeek> gn0me: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[09:39] <robotgeek> redhook: ? who
[09:39] <woz> redhook, yeah... but it works on the same princible
[09:39] <redhook> robotgeek: woz
[09:39] <gn0me> robotgeek: Already got it.. how do I make it switch to that compiler?
[09:39] <redhook> woz: that device is junkware btw
[09:39] <gn0me> Rather than the 2.0
[09:40] <Lukian> andrewguy: an 8GB usb stick? ;)
[09:40] <gn0me> err.. 4.0
[09:40] <redhook> woz: no server should be without ethernet
[09:40] <robotgeek> gn0me: export CC=gcc-3.4, but you shouldn't need to do that
[09:40] <jgrieves> export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:40] <andrewguy> Lukian: really nothing that would fit on a 256?
[09:40] <woz> redhook, it's not a server in that sense though
[09:40] <Lukian> andrewguy: no idea..
[09:40] <redhook> woz: then what is it, a gimped out pda?
[09:41] <woz> redhook, yeah i guess you could call it that
[09:41] <gn0me> Also, anyone know how to make a new xorg.conf?
[09:41] <gn0me> I remember there was something that came with X, but I forget the command
[09:41] <woz> redhook, honestly, my dad kept badgering me to give him a birthday list, so i told him i wanted one of these to play around with
[09:41] <andrewguy> Lukian: damn, I'm using "Feather Linux" to boot on x86 platform, but I'm looking for a PPC mini distro for the other portion of the memory stick. I know Ubuntu has a PPC version and I was wondering if there was a slim lined one for usb sticks.
[09:42] <woz> andrewguy, you should look at the debian version on the blackdog
[09:42] <gn0me> holy crap it works, thank you guys so much for all your help
[09:42] <gn0me> ubuntu for life. :)
[09:42] <woz> andrewguy, it's a ppc based debian distro
[09:43] <redhook> I'm out
[09:43] <andrewguy> woz: isn't that proprietary ?
[09:43] <coldburn> gnome: there is a step by step guide for doing that at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074    use method 2
[09:43] <woz> it's linux
[09:43] <woz> and it's a 400mhz ppc processor
[09:43] <woz> it would probably need to be modified slightly
[09:44] <woz> but they had to have gotten it from somewhere
[09:44] <gn0me> coldburn: Already got it working.. I kind of understood the steps but the only problem was I only had terminals and used lynx to try and visit ubuntuforums wouldn't let me search.
[09:44] <andrewguy> Woz: Do you know if it is available for download? I think you have to specifically buy the device if I understand there website crrectly.
[09:44] <gn0me> coldburn: But thank you so much nonetheless. :D
[09:44] <coldburn> np =)
[09:45] <GingerDog> morning; If an init script blocks (i.e. waits for user input) why does GDM still start? Do the init scripts run in parallel to some extent?
[09:45] <woz> uh... it's open source though
[09:45] <andrewguy> http://www.projectblackdog.com/
[09:45] <woz> http://download.projectblackdog.com/
[09:45] <andres_> Oh yes I knew it - it is not supporting 3D acceleration - at least not working for X86-64 - rendering accel
[09:46] <andres_> nVidia
[09:46] <mamo555> hi to all
[09:48] <andrewguy> Woz: yah it looks to big for a 256 memory stick, I'm already using 128mb of it for "Feather Linux" x86 distro.
[09:48] <woz> how bout puppylinux?
[09:49] <woz> or zipslack
[09:49] <woz> do any of those have ppc versions?
[09:49] <andrewguy> Woz: what I'm looking to do is have a bootable USB stick that will work on both x86 and ppc platform.
[09:49] <andrewguy> Ummm, I don't believe puppylinux does but I'll check.
[09:50] <ejofee> if a variable is "12.5", how can i tell bash i want to consider it numerical (integer, all right)
[09:50] <woz> you might be able to do that with regex
[09:53] <woz> ejofee, do you mean make it "12" or do you mean make it realize it's a number instead of a string?
[09:53] <andrewguy> woz: fyi: after doing some googling looks like there might be a Fedora version usb bootable for PPC
[09:54] <ejofee> woz: both (also i don't mind if it makes it the integer "12", as i also want to use this "feature" for returning "int($var)"-s
[09:54] <woz> small enough though?
[09:56] <ejofee> s/-s/-s\)/
[09:56] <dooglus> ejofee: what do you want to do?
[09:56] <Madpilot> with ln - symlinks - can you symlink something from / into ~ ?
[09:56] <dooglus> Madpilot: of course.  you can link anything you like with symlinks
[09:57] <dooglus> Madpilot: "ln -s /vmlinuz ~/kernel" for instance
[09:57] <Madpilot> dooglus: thanks - there's some docs and stuff buried in / that I want to make more accessible
[09:57] <dooglus> Madpilot: you can even link to things which don't exist if you want to:  "ln -s /this/is/a/made/up/directory ~/stupid-link" will work
[09:57] <Madpilot> :P
[09:58] <ejofee> dooglus: in a small bash script i am getting non-integer values from bc. i need to operate with them *under bash*, and i don't need them to be decimal-precise, as they are quite large, so it's no problem for me if bash detects them as integers... the problem is that bash doesn't even consider them numeric :(
[09:59] <dooglus> ejofee: bc works with floating point numbers?
[09:59] <dooglus> echo "25.0 / 2.0" | bc
[09:59] <dooglus> 12
[09:59] <dooglus> it looks like it's rounding to integers to me
[09:59] <ejofee> dooglus: i think it does. why do you ask?
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to understand the differences between / what I have out of i386/586/686.  Could someone tell me based on my processor info?
[10:00] <SWAT_work> Mornin' all. Did anyone test the newest nvidia driver (from site) with Breezy? (Is the memory leak gone?)
[10:00] <SWAT_work> tonyyarusso, what's your processor?
[10:01] <SWAT_work> for processors nowadays you need the i686 :)
[10:01] <Madpilot> dooglus: ln -s is resursive, right? if I link to a directory, it'll include all the subdirectories & such?
[10:01] <dooglus> ejofee: if all you want to do is throw away the '.' and anything after it, pipe the output of bc into "sed 's/[.] .*//'"
[10:01] <dooglus> Madpilot: "ln -s" is much more stupid than that.  it really is just a textual thing.  that's why you can link to "/this/path/doesn't/exist"
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> SWAT_work, "Intel Pentium M 1.86GHz at 768 MHz, Family 6, model 13, stepping 8, 2048 KB L2 cache" is what hardinfo says.
[10:02] <dooglus> Madpilot: whether it's recursive or not is up to the application accessing the link
[10:02] <SWAT_work> tonyyarusso, you need the 686 definately
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> SWAT_work, And is there a summary explanation of what those numbers mean?
[10:02] <demon71> can anyone help with a adept problem? When i go to install kplayer, it says there is a "break"
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> SWAT_work, Thanks for that.
[10:02] <Madpilot> dooglus: Nautilus and/or gnome-open - but I'll experiment and see what works ;)
[10:02] <phr023n> i forgot the command to start gnome / kde from terminal, was it "startx --session gnome" or what?
[10:03] <SWAT_work> tonyyarusso, it's common knowledge. If you don't know google it. 386 is for old cpu's, 686 for new ones and k7 for AMD etc.
[10:03] <SWAT_work> tonyyarusso, np
[10:03] <dooglus> phr023n: just "startx" should work I think
[10:03] <phr023n> dooglus: to specify the wm
[10:03] <phr023n> dooglus: cuz i have kde gnome and fluxbox
[10:04] <dooglus> phr023n: maybe "startx -- gnome_session" then?
[10:04] <dooglus> phr023n: but I think it should default to something reasonable
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> SWAT_work, So, now wouldn't the Ubuntu installer have been able to figure that out?  I ended up with the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel; shouldn't that be different then?
[10:04] <flgr\> sorry, this is probably a frequently asked question, but how is the Java plugin for Firefox installed the right way?
[10:04] <ejofee> dooglus: i have *thousands* of trivial calculations (in a loop) and i need speed. this is the very reason i want to use simple bash calculations, as they are *WAY* much faster than bc (which is more than twice as fast as awk (which is more than three times as fast as "python -c <operation>"))... so i think sed may be an intruder. i am hoping i can find a more "direct" bash implementation, rather than using a workaround (sed)
[10:04] <flgr\> plugin finder doesn't do anything but showing the plugin and I can't seem to find a package for it in Synaptic...
[10:05] <dooglus> ejofee: ok, there's the weird ## thingy - let me check
[10:05] <phr023n> so i dont have to specify in rc.conf
[10:05] <hmpedersen> I seem to have broken my Synaptic somehow..
[10:05] <ejofee> dooglus: thank you very much
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> flgr\: You'll either have to install Java from Sun yourself, use the previous version debian package in universe(?), or the PLF deb, and then depending on your FF, it will either work or you'll need to make a symbolic link to it.
[10:06] <dooglus> ejofee: this is what I mean:
[10:06] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~$ X=12.500001
[10:06] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~$ echo ${X%%.*}
[10:06] <dooglus> 12
[10:06] <hmpedersen> Any way to fix synaptic if its broken?
[10:06] <dooglus> %% is internal to bash, so will be a lot faster than invoking sed
[10:06] <ejofee> thanks a lot, dooglus
[10:06] <ejofee> dooglus: right, that's what i wanted
[10:07] <flgr\> tonyyarusso, ah, do you have the package name?
[10:07] <dooglus> ejofee: although I would say, if you want something to run fast, you really shouldn't be using bash!
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> hmpedersen: Broken how?  I'm having trouble with a few of the repos right now, and a bunch of people were yesterday; some of them have been offline.
[10:07] <flgr\> I tried searching for Java, but I haven't found anything relevant in the list of results just yet
[10:07] <robotgeek> how do i show all the enviromental variables in bash?
[10:07] <frosty> Hi all, I have installed XMMS but when I run a music file through it I do not hear anything at all, but I get sound from other sources, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:07] <hmpedersen> Im not talking repos.. Im talking: Synaptic will not open.. Updating can not be done
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> flgr\: Of those options: 1) it's a tar.gz from Sun, 2) j2re1.4, 3) j2re1.5.
[10:08] <flgr\> thanks!
[10:08] <ejofee> dooglus: well... it began as a simple bash script... i might be considering to perform the calculations in c
[10:08] <dooglus> flgr\: I'd suggest installing package 'j2re1.4' if 1.4 is new enough for you
[10:09] <flgr\> will do, thank you
[10:09] <dooglus> ejofee: also, *thousands* of calculations isn't a lot with today's processors.  I would expect bash can do 1000 calculations in a second
[10:09] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there a free way to gain a Transgaming Account?
[10:09] <dooglus> ejofee: do you know about bash's built in arithmetic?
[10:09] <unikon> hey im setting up ubuntu  right nowww and what is the best video mode for a 15 inch monitor
[10:10] <dooglus> ejofee: I just reread what you wrote.  you do know about them :)
[10:10] <ejofee> dooglus: not more than simple $((<operations>)).
[10:10] <ejofee> dooglus :)
[10:10] <AMCDeathKnight> hi
[10:10] <dooglus> ejofee: you don't need the $ - you can just write   ((x = x*2))   on a line of its own
[10:10] <ejofee> dooglus: i mean, i don't think bash supports any thing more than this
[10:10] <soundray> ejofee, I missed the beginning of the conversation - what are you calculating in bash?
[10:10] <hmpedersen> Is there any way to fix a broken package, when the package broken is the one that fixes the broken packages?
[10:11] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there a free way I can get a Transgaming account?
[10:11] <sethk> hmpedersen, are you serious?
[10:11] <dooglus> hmpedersen: which package?
[10:11] <SWAT_work> AMCDeathKnight, yeah, bug it (with money)
[10:11] <hmpedersen> I found a way to fix synaptic.. But that includes installing a new synaptic, and i cant do that, as synaptic is broken, and i cant get the dependencies..
[10:11] <hmpedersen> AMCDeathKnight: No
[10:11] <sethk> hmpedersen, install it from source, and use the source version to reinstall the package version
[10:12] <dooglus> hmpedersen: you can install packages using apt-get - you don't need synaptic at all.
[10:12] <AMCDeathKnight> Darn ok my friend installed Cedega for me but I need a transgaming account to install World of Warcraft on Linux
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so I have kernel 2.6.12-9-386 currently, but apparently should have the 686 one, and if I was going to change it anyway, maybe it would make sense to get 2.6.12-10-686 while I'm at it.  Should I do that?
[10:12] <soundray> hmpedersen, you can download the dependency packages and install them with dpkg -i
[10:12] <hmpedersen> dooglus, and when apt-get doesnt seem to know the dependencies?
[10:12] <ejofee> soundray: i want to calculate any output of bc (since bash's simple operations are much faster), but bash doesn't recognize decimal variables as numeric. i don't care about the decimal places anyway, so i thought i could get bash recognize at least the integer part
[10:12] <dooglus> hmpedersen: apt-get knows dependancies just as well as synaptic knows them
[10:13] <hmpedersen> dooglus, must be why it refuses to install them
[10:13] <AMCDeathKnight> How cna I change what people see when they connect to my computer thruogh SSH? as in a Welcome message or something
[10:13] <soundray> ejofee, you mean it mistakes them for octal or something like that?
[10:13] <ejofee> soundray: but i don't want to use sed for this... i prefer something bash-internal, for speed
[10:13] <frosty> Anyone help me with XMMS? I have had this problem before but I cannot remember how I fixed it.  I have soundblaster 5.1 and I am getting no sound, but I do get sound from other programs
[10:13] <dooglus> hmpedersen: but if they're both broken, use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to chase down the dependancies and download the .deb files and use "sudo dpkg -i <.deb file>" to install them
[10:13] <sethk> dooglus, he means he has a circular dependency that can't be resolved.
[10:13] <sethk> dooglus, from his perspective synaptic + apt-get is a single unit
[10:13] <sethk> dooglus, he's not saying that he specifically has a problem with the gui wrapper
[10:14] <AMCDeathKnight> How cna I change what people see when they connect to my computer thruogh SSH? as in a Welcome message or something
[10:14] <ejofee> soundray: no... i want bash to consider "12.3" numerical (no problem if it will trim it to the integer "12")
[10:14] <phanter> I always have tp type: "sudo mount //10.0.0.4/aegee /home/patrick/Wolga -o username=USER,password=PASS,dmask=777,fmask=777" , is there a way to automount this?
[10:15] <sethk> AMCDeathKnight, grep the files for whatever string you see, and that should find the file that contains the string.  then just change the string.
[10:15] <sethk> phanter, add a line with the options to /etc/fstab, then you'll be able to do:  sudo mount /home/patrick/Wolga
[10:16] <AMCDeathKnight> k
[10:16] <sethk> phanter, it will mount at boot time as well, unless you specify noauto in fstab
[10:17] <AMCDeathKnight> Can you give me an easier way as: grep chevron command is going to take ages. Doesnt anyone know where I can change the welcome message for those who SSH into my machine?
[10:18] <hmpedersen> dooglus, the dependencies doesnt exist on the site, it appears.. Unless ofcourse they are called something else..
[10:18] <hmpedersen> libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11
[10:18] <hmpedersen>  , libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2)
[10:18] <hmpedersen>  and libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4)
[10:19] <hmpedersen> why did xchat break up 1 line into 3?
[10:19] <phanter> What filesystemtype should I use for a Sambar mount?
[10:20] <SWAT_work> phanter, huh?
[10:20] <SWAT_work> smbfs
[10:21] <SWAT_work> phanter, have a special command to mount a samba share, and you don't need to specify a fs type
[10:21] <hmpedersen> Hmm..
[10:22] <hmpedersen> Synaptic fixed.. Seems the one i had was 0.57.6+b1....
[10:22] <hmpedersen> however that happened, i do not know..
[10:22] <dooglus> phanter: I'd suggest "cifs" instead of "smbfs".  it works with big files.
[10:22] <__steve__> hey all, is there a dapper-specific channel?
[10:23] <dooglus> I don't think so __steve__
[10:23] <__steve__> then, would anyone care to help me troubleshoot my wireless (after upgrading to Dapper - not recommended)?
[10:24] <robotgeek> __steve__: what card? was it working before?
[10:24] <dooglus> __steve__: I'd like to, but don't think I can.  If it was working before but isn't after, it's probably a bug in dapper.
[10:25] <__steve__> robotgeek, yes, it was working "out of the box" before.  it's an RT2500 card.
[10:25] <hmpedersen> dooglus, thanx..
[10:25] <dooglus> I see "vino-session" in my GNOME session, but can't find "vino-session" anywhere on my filesystem - so what does it run?  vino works fine, so I guess it runs something
[10:25] <robotgeek> __steve__: hmm,
[10:26] <robotgeek> __steve__: i have one of those, lemme see if dapper has drivers
[10:26] <sethk> dooglus, do ps auxww | grep vino
[10:26] <__steve__> robotgeek,, I noticed that dapper has rt2500 and rt2500-source packages, so I installed them.
[10:26] <robotgeek> __steve__: can you change your nick, it's exceedingly difficult to type :)
[10:26] <hmpedersen> dooglus, vino has got to do with VNC
[10:26] <dooglus> sethk: I would, but I'm not in GNOME right now (hence wanting to find the script that starts vino, so I can run it in XFCE)
[10:26] <ssstormy> how do I force dpkg removal?
[10:27] <ssstormy> dpkg --force-auto-select
[10:27] <ssstormy> then what?
[10:27] <dooglus> hmpedersen: I know.  I'd like to know how GNOME starts it, so I can do the same in XFCE
[10:27] <robotgeek> stv: thanks
[10:27] <robotgeek> moment
[10:27] <hmpedersen> hmm
[10:27] <sethk> dooglus, then I would search the file system for files with vino in the name.
[10:27] <stv> robotgeek, np :)
[10:28] <soundray> ejofee, look at this: a=12.3 ; b=$(expr index $a \.) ; c=$[$b-1]  ; d=0 ; echo $c ; e=${a:d:c} ; echo $e
[10:28] <gn0me> Hey, another question, how do I remove the existing fglrx package.. I keep getting an error: mismatch on divert-to
[10:28] <hmpedersen> hmm.. well.. its time for me to take the router offline so get it back to the shop.. when it stopped working, he gave me a new router.. with the old manual and the -old- antenna from the old router.. Which means, i have no wireless
[10:28] <stv> robotgeek, so I have a device, and it shows up w/ iwconfig, and I can set essid and wep key, but I can't get any signal.  :(
[10:28] <ejofee> soundray: thank you
[10:28] <robotgeek> stv: lsmod | grep rt2500
[10:28] <soundray> ejofee, using http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN17078
[10:29] <dooglus> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5990
[10:29] <stv> robotgeek,  rt2500                173668  1
[10:29] <dooglus> soundray: he wants *fast*.  spawning "expr" for each sum isn't fast, is it?
[10:29] <robotgeek> stv: if you can't get a signal, try sudo rmmod rt2500, remove card
[10:30] <hmpedersen> Hey.. does anyone know if there are actual linux drivers for netr8180 wireless card?
[10:30] <stv> robotgeek, err.. it's a pci card.  but I can rmmod
[10:30] <robotgeek> stv: i tht pcmcia card, sorry
[10:30] <soundray> dooglus, maybe - I wasn't focussing on "fast", I was focussing on "do it in bash"...
[10:31] <dooglus> soundray: 'expr' isn't "in bash" though
[10:31] <ena> salut
[10:32] <ena> sa fart
[10:32] <stv> robotgeek, after rmmod'ing, what should I do?
[10:32] <robotgeek> stv: hmm, load it back in again :) sudo modprobe rt2500
[10:32] <robotgeek> stv: then iwconfig essid "essid" wep etc
[10:32] <soundray> dooglus, okay, I'll take it all back :(
[10:33] <robotgeek> stv: and try again
[10:33] <stv> robotgeek, ok.  I'll let you know.  :)
[10:34] <dooglus> soundray: did you see "%%" in bash?  that'll do it quickly:   X=123.456; echo ${X%%.*}
[10:34] <stv> robotgeek,  Link Quality=0/100
[10:35] <robotgeek> stv: you don't have wep or anything setup, right?
[10:35] <unikon> ive got a question after you login in with  user and password  this text comes up username@ubuntu:~$ what  should be typed in that area
[10:35] <cafuego> unikon: Anything at all. Normally commands.
[10:35] <stv> robotgeek, i have wep
[10:35] <robotgeek> stv: and i was working before dapper, so probably a bug somewhere
[10:35] <soundray> dooglus, tell ejofee
[10:36] <soundray> dooglus, nice one
[10:36] <darkness> Hi, i have apche set up (PHP and Mysql on it too), which i can connect easily too just by typing localhost into my browser. How can other people veiw the files in the apache2 server on my computer?
[10:36] <stv> robotgeek,  yes, it was working fine in breezy.  where oh WHERE could the bug be?  I must work around it....
[10:36] <cafuego> darkness: they will need your hostname or IP address
[10:36] <robotgeek> stv: did you try compiling from source?
[10:37] <darkness> Cafuego, I have tried putting my ip address into the browser and it comes up saying i need a user name and password to get into my dlink moderm.
[10:37] <stv> robotgeek, I did for the rt2500-source package.  but not for the kernel.
[10:37] <phanter> How will "dmask=777,fmask=777" be in octal?
[10:37] <dooglus> soundray: I already told him - and I think he understood...
[10:38] <dooglus> phanter: that *is* octal
[10:38] <robotgeek> stv: i mean from the site itself, there's a wiki page on howto compile
[10:38] <cafuego> darkness: Then you need to set up the d-link modem to forward tcp port 80 to the internal IP of your Linux machine.
[10:38] <soundray> dooglus, okay, I must have missed it.
[10:38] <xerxes1358> Hi
[10:38] <darkness> cafuego, how do I do that?
[10:38] <phanter> dooglus, I get the error: "WARNING: 'dmask' not expressed in octal."
[10:38] <stv> robotgeek, you mean the serialmonkey source from the directions on their site?
[10:38] <cafuego> darkness: Log in to the modem web interface, find out where to configure forwarding, enable it...
[10:38] <robotgeek> stv: yes, try that
[10:39] <sethk> you need to put a zero in front of an octal number, as in 0777
[10:39] <dooglus> phanter: you might want to take those values away from '777' though - try 000 instead
[10:39] <stv> robotgeek, ok, well, I'll probably be going to sleep soon, i think.  maybe tomorrow.
[10:39] <stv> robotgeek, thanks for your help!
[10:39] <xerxes1358> He guys I have a question: If I download ubuntu live cd for the mac Can I start ubuntu from cd / dvd and when I am once logged in pull the ubuntu DVD out and burn another DVD ? (I dont think it can be done but I ask anyway)
[10:39] <darkness> Cafuego, I'm completely knew to Ubuntu and trying to set up a server. How do i log into a interface?
[10:39] <robotgeek> stv: no problem
[10:40] <cafuego> xerxes1358: Nope
[10:40] <cafuego> darkness: That depends entirely on the modem.
[10:40] <cafuego> darkness: You'll need the username/password to admin it.
[10:40] <darkness> Cafuego: it's a D-link DSL-302G. And i have the username and password
[10:41] <phanter> Now I get the error: "WARNING: CIFS mount option 'dmask' is deprecated. Use 'dir_mode' instead."
[10:41] <cafuego> darkness: Well, the interface is proprietary, so I have no idea what it looks like. Just see if you can find anything about connection forwarding
[10:42] <darkness> Cafuego, but how am i supposed to fine the interface. I got a disk for it but it only works on windows, and i don't need it to connect to the net anyway...
[10:43] <AMCDeathKnight> Where can I get point2player
[10:43] <AMCDeathKnight> *play
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> Do we know anything about when all of the repositories might be back online?
[10:44] <hmpedersen> AMCDeathKnight Why don't you just signup for a transgaming account? Its only $5 a month..
[10:45] <AMCDeathKnight> WineX isnt in Apt-get if it is what repositories am I missing?
[10:45] <AMCDeathKnight> point2play is free isnt it?
[10:45] <gn0me> I seem to have killed my mouse. :-(
[10:46] <hmpedersen> AMCDeathKnight, No.. Its a part of Cedega now.. If you don't want to pay for it, then dont use it.. Find another way
[10:46] <AMCDeathKnight> vw
[10:47] <AMCDeathKnight> What kind of support does Ubuntu have for ipod videos?
[10:47] <hmpedersen> Sorry.. But i see many people comaplining about not being able to find a working copy of cedega.. Just pay, or dont use..
[10:48] <willii> hello all
[10:48] <SWAT_work> I'm also a paying customer for Cedega :D
[10:48] <SWAT_work> and I like it :)
[10:48] <dave> hi
[10:49] <AMCDeathKnight> hi
[10:49] <SWAT_work> Cedega is still less evil than Microsoft and has better image quality than wine
[10:50] <AMCDeathKnight> Does anyone know where a list of all the repositories are? Im stick of how little apt=get offers me at the moment
[10:50] <willii> I connect to my home box via ssh from another linux box how can I use a gui from a ssh login
[10:50] <willii> for example xemacs
[10:50] <darkness> does anyoen know how to enabled port forwarding (port 80) on a d-link 302g modem?
[10:51] <phanter> Now I get the error: "WARNING: CIFS mount option 'dmask' is deprecated. Use 'dir_mode' instead."
[10:52] <sethk> phanter, that's not an error
[10:52] <sethk> phanter, it's a WARNING.  meaning you can probably ignore it.
[10:54] <phanter> sethk, not really because I do not have an rights in that folder nowa
[10:54] <sethk> phanter, if so, it has absolutely nothing to do with that message
[10:54] <sethk> phanter, if the value is wrong, fix it, but it isn't complaining about the value
[10:54] <phanter> oke, than I still have problems with the octal numbers
[10:54] <CioN> hey how do I rip DVd with ubuntu?
[10:55] <ssstormy> install AcidRip
[10:55] <AMCDeathKnight> Does anyone know where a list of all the repositories are? Im stick of how little apt=get offers me at the moment
[10:55] <plasmoduck[a] > !tell CioN about search
[10:55] <sethk> phanter, which I explained to you.  the first digit has to be 0
[10:55] <ssstormy> there is a way to build a .deb package from my own source compile?
[10:55] <sethk> phanter, as in 0777
[10:55] <CioN> and the i can just burn?
[10:55] <ssstormy> CioN, yeah, the image it makes you should be able to burn
[10:55] <ssstormy> but
[10:55] <phanter> I now have: "username=USER,password=PASS,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777" in my fstab as options, but I still do not have any rights
[10:56] <ssstormy> if all you want is a copy
[10:56] <plasmoduck[a] > AMCDeathKnight, uncomment the other sources in /etc/apt/sources.list or apt-get.org
[10:56] <ssstormy> dd if=/DVDromdrive of=~/DVDimage.iso
[10:56] <sethk> phanter, I've never seen any docs with user names.  I've seen uid and gid.  what are you mounting?
[10:56] <AMCDeathKnight> Thanks
[10:57] <AMCDeathKnight> I want to know how to RIP DVDs into 700 meg AVi files in Ubuntu
[10:58] <andy108> hell all
[10:58] <knubbe> is there a gui for creating ssh-tunnels?
[10:58] <AMCDeathKnight> hi
[10:58] <cafuego> gui?
[10:58] <AMCDeathKnight> Graphical User Interface
[10:59] <robotgeek> kinda ironic :)
[10:59] <cafuego> ssh -L localport:remotehost:remoteport user@host
[10:59] <AMCDeathKnight> Usually refers too what you see and hear on a computer
[10:59] <andy108> how to run xemacs from a remote login from a linux box to another linux ubuntu box
[10:59] <AMCDeathKnight> ?
[10:59] <cafuego> andy108: Best way is you do it via ssh.
[10:59] <andy108> remote as in ssh
[10:59] <cafuego> andy108: ssh -C -X user@remotehost; xemacs
[11:00] <dooglus> cafuego: that would run it locally.  I think you want to leave out the ';'
[11:00] <andy108> yes thankyou but as well as command line is it possible to use xemacs sorry not very clear
[11:01] <darkness> HEy, I'm on my modem interface (i did this by typing 10.1.1.1 into my browser), and then i went to network setup, the add so i can host a website from my computer. a little pop up came up telling me to fill in some information about nat rules setup or something. What the hell do i do?
[11:01] <cafuego> dooglus: I intend that as command pause, until there's a remote shell ;-)
[11:01] <darkness> I just want to be able to have people access a few webpages!
[11:01] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there away I can get my machine to turn itself on and boot into Ubuntu automaticlly at a certain time; run apt-get update then once that is finished and updated shut itself down?
[11:01] <docta_v> andy108: X11 forwarding...time to read the manual
[11:01] <dooglus> cafuego: no need.  ssh takes an optional 'command' argument
[11:01] <cafuego> dooglus: Yeah... but no filename tab completion that way.
[11:02] <cafuego> I suppose emacs has that built-in, but I don't use emacs.
[11:02] <Myrtti> darkness: seems like a good time to read your modems manual
[11:02] <dooglus> cafuego: depends how you have your completion set up.  it's possible to have bash connect to the remote host to get its completions
[11:02] <andy108> give me the url of the manual please
[11:02] <cafuego> dooglus: sloooowness :-)
[11:02] <dooglus> cafuego: yes.
[11:02] <cafuego> andy108: 'man ssh'
[11:02] <andy108> not man X11
[11:02] <AMCDeathKnight> darkness: Should only need to put the port into Single and Public POrt and the IP address of your internal IP
[11:03] <AMCDeathKnight> darkness: Ignore the NAT stuff you shouldnt need to touch it
[11:03] <dooglus> andy108: all you need to do is "ssh -X user@host xemacs"
[11:03] <cafuego> dooglus: the -C should speed it up a tad
[11:03] <hmpedersen> AMCDeathKnight, I have no idea, what you are trying to do.. Why would you want you computer to automatically boot, update, then shutdown?
[11:04] <dooglus> cafuego: possibly.  it depends whether the bottleneck is in the CPU or the network
[11:04] <cafuego> You can also pick a fatser-than-default cipher
[11:04] <AMCDeathKnight> if I am away from my computer so it stays updated instead of comming back and running all the entir eupdates
[11:04] <hmpedersen> AMCDeathKnight, I've never heard of that.. And Im pretty sure, its not possible.. Unless you have another computer nearby that sends a boot signal to it over lan.. (it must be on all the time)
[11:04] <andy108> sory for being a dummy but as in ssh -X root@ipaddress xemacs
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> AMCDeathKnight, I've never tried it, but I think you can set a boot time/date in some BIOS menus, and then once it's up, cron could do the update and shutdown.  Others, true?
[11:05] <dooglus> andy108: if you use "xemacs -nw" it will run in a terminal rather than as an X Window.  that will speed things up enormously
[11:05] <cafuego> andy108: pretty much, yes
[11:05] <AMCDeathKnight> hmm
[11:05] <docta_v> doesn't xemacs have remote file editing capabilities anyway?
[11:05] <andy108> thanks the -nw command comes after xemacs
[11:05] <dooglus> docta_v: it does, yes.  very nice ones too
[11:06] <docta_v> yea...seems like he should be using that stuff then
[11:06] <hmpedersen> gotta go.. may the penguin be with you all..
[11:06] <hmpedersen> Allways
[11:06] <PerraS> hi all. when  i tried to install kubuntu the installation stops after have found my cd rom. now i see a blue screen with a white border where i can write
[11:06] <dooglus> andy108: if you're using "-nw" then there's no need for the "-X".  the "-X" is only needed if the remote application is going to make some X Windows.
[11:07] <dooglus> andy108: you know about "tramp" in XEmacs?  for remote site editing?
[11:07] <andy108> ok thanks douglus
[11:07] <andy108> and cafuego
[11:08] <andy108> no I do not
[11:08] <dooglus> andy108: in XEmacs, type C-x C-f as if you were about to visit a local file
[11:09] <dooglus> andy108: but instead of a local filename, type /scp:username@hostname.com:/path/to/file
[11:09] <dooglus> andy108: it will use scp to get the file from the remote box, let you edit it locally, and then, when you save the buffer, it will write it back to the remote machine
[11:10] <andy108> thanks I will write that down
[11:11] <dooglus> andy108: possibly "ssh" is better than "scp" at the beginning.  I'm not sure.  They both work for me, but scp seems to make a new connection each time, whereas the ssh connection persists
[11:11] <PerraS> does any1 has the time to help me with the basic installation
[11:12] <andy108> scp how to find in ubuntu is it installed as a command at base
[11:12] <dooglus> andy108: by the way, I use GNU Emacs, not XEmacs.  I think they're similar enough that this will work the same for both, but I'm not sure.
[11:13] <cafuego> andy108: it is.
[11:13] <kimjuik> in starting FireFox, libXt.so loading error..-_-;;; why do this?
[11:13] <cafuego> kimjuik: Not a packaged firefox but a downloaded one, missing required libs.
[11:13] <cafuego> Ergo, use 1.0.7
[11:15] <Madpilot> later, everyone
[11:15] <kimjuik> what packag should I download for getting libXt.so ????
[11:16] <cafuego> kimjuik: 'sudo apt-get install firefox' will get all that's required.
[11:16] <kimjuik> cafuego : thanx
[11:17] <kimjuik> cafuego : ...my firefox package is new version, so no one is loaded...
[11:18] <sense> sry
[11:21] <cafuego> omg :-)
[11:21] <andy108> scp how to find in ubuntu is it installed as a command at base please
[11:22] <cafuego> andy108: scp is installed by default.
[11:22] <andy108> how is it diffrent to ssh -ie more options
[11:22] <royce> since I set up my internal wireless card with ndiswrapper startup takes a considerable amount of time "configuring network interfaces", can this be bypassed or sped up, it takes an especially long time if I am at a different location than when the system was shut down, and fails if the new network is encrypted
[11:22] <cafuego> andy108: scp is part of ssh. it's for copying files.
[11:23] <cafuego> andy108: 'man scp' explains.
[11:23] <andy108> ok I will read the man page
[11:24] <gn0me> Anyone know how I can force fglrx package to remove .. it like stops with errors every time
[11:24] <royce> when I setup ndiswrapper I used the wiki found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper how can I tell if I am using the latest ndiswrapper
[11:24] <andy108> what if I am on a network and I want to chmod all my directories so only alone have access
[11:25] <administrador> mijmnijknkjn
[11:25] <administrador> hola
[11:25] <administrador> espaoles??
[11:25] <administrador> kpullos
[11:26] <cafuego> !es
[11:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:26] <renedox> andy108: man chmod
[11:26] <gn0me> #ubuntu-es
[11:26] <administrador> fuck you
[11:26] <gn0me> haha.
[11:26] <cafuego> So you speak english after all, eh?
[11:26] <gn0me> So much anger.
[11:26] <cafuego> Must be coz he keeps getting told to find somewhere else to spam.
[11:26] <andy108> ok yes thanks and last some good software for unencrypted wireless networks single user
[11:27] <robotgeek> andy108: you found one, or are you looking for one
[11:27] <royce> how can I tell what version of ndiswrapper I am using
[11:27] <robotgeek> andy108: hmm, i scrolled up :)
[11:28] <royce> since I set up my internal wireless card with ndiswrapper startup takes a considerable amount of time "configuring network interfaces", can this be bypassed or sped up, it takes an especially long time if I am at a different location than when the system was shut down, and fails if the new network is encrypted
[11:29] <robotgeek> royce: edit out the lines auto wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:29] <robotgeek> royce: or better, comment it :)
[11:30] <royce> robotgeek: explain comment it, is that the two //
[11:30] <benplaut> anyone here know about configuring grub?
[11:30] <robotgeek> royce: no, #
[11:30] <andy108> looking for one
[11:30] <royce> k
[11:31] <robotgeek> andy108: for managing wireless networks? try network-manager/gtk-wifi/wifi-radar
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> benplaut: For some things.
[11:31] <andy108> robotgeek  -lokking for one
[11:32] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, well, i have breezy / on hda7, just installed gentoo with a /boot partition on hda1, and gentoo / on hda3. i copied my previous grub entries from using hda7 to boot, but now it can't find the images
[11:33] <benplaut> any suggestions?
[11:33] <royce> robotgeek: will I still have wireless access once I enter x?
[11:34] <robotgeek> royce: no, you'll have to bring it up after you start x
[11:34] <andy108> cnnot seem to find network manager
[11:35] <silverton> system->administration->networking
[11:35] <renedox> can someone please give me a fix to this error?
[11:35] <renedox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5992
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> benplaut: Let me just make sure I'm following: Your current grub entries on on the gentoo /boot (hda1)?
[11:36] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, yeah, and they show up when booting
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> benplaut: And is grub on the MBR, /boot, or both chainloading?
[11:36] <seniorsepia> Anyone know how I can configure connection to L2TP IpSec VPN Server in Ubuntu?
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> benplaut: So the menu looks right, but none of the entries work?
[11:37] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, could you check my entry?
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> benplaut: I can try.
[11:37] <_newbie_> Does somebody know how to change the primary language in OpenOffice2? (Tools -> Language dosen't work)
[11:38] <benplaut> !pastebin
[11:38] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> benplaut: I know with Ubuntu you can run the install CD again and reinstall grub after changes to have it auto-detect; does gentoo's disk have that capability?
[11:38] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, probably not... it's quite minimalist
[11:39] <ToR911> how do i change my enviorment variable CC to GCC ver 3.4.5?
[11:39] <benplaut> tonyyarusso,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5993
[11:39] <ToR911> i have gcc 3.4.5 installed
[11:39] <renedox> someone help me with this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5992
[11:39] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, also, do you mean using the install CD in resue mode?
[11:39] <bimberi> renedox: you have duplicate entries in your sources.list file - you could either put it on a pastebin for us to look at or get a fresh one ...
[11:40] <bimberi> !sources
[11:40] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, All right then, let's see the entry.
[11:40] <benplaut> thanks
[11:40] <royce> robotgeek: I put in the comment infront of the wlan line, now it takes a long time bring up network interfaces, I can remember the exact message, it took quite some time to fail and move on
[11:41] <robotgeek> royce: maybe even your ethernet connection?
[11:41] <royce> comment both of them
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, I think it's something like that, I've never tried the rescue myself, only been told it can be done.  I'll find out though, because I have to do just that on another computer later this week or next.
[11:41] <renedox> bimberi: where are the duplicates? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5994
[11:41] <ToR911> how do i change my enviorment variable CC to GCC ver 3.4.5?
[11:42] <renedox> bimberi: oh never mind, I see it
[11:42] <renedox> bimberi: lol, thanks
[11:43] <bimberi> renedox: np :)
[11:43] <royce> how can I tell what version of ndiswrapper I'm using
[11:44] <robotgeek> ToR911: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:44] <bimberi> ToR911: export CC=gcc-3.4
[11:44] <robotgeek> royce: ndiswrapper --version doesn't work?
[11:44] <ToR911> ty
[11:45] <royce> robotgeek: thanx, does --version work for most any package
[11:45] <robotgeek> royce: mostly, yes
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, You'll have to bear with me here for a moment for reading your entry; I have 7 tabs open (and loading) on a 14.4k connection :(
[11:45] <ToR911> where is the GCC 3.4 include files kept at?
[11:45] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, no problem, i've been up all night, and will be staying up all morning, anyway :P
[11:46] <royce> robotgeek: that provided me with some usage information, but no version info
[11:47] <robotgeek> royce: ndiswrapper --help , it must have some command for version in there
[11:47] <knubbe> is there a way to see which ports i have open?
[11:47] <knubbe> (for outgoing connections)
[11:48] <knubbe> cause im trying to tunnel mysql from a remote machine, but i cant connect
[11:49] <renedox> bimberi: now I have this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5995
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, It doesn't look like these partition numbers match up...
[11:50] <benplaut> ?
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, For instance, the gentoo entry says (hd0,0), but you said it was on 3.
[11:51] <benplaut> that's odd :/
[11:51] <benplaut> considering Gentoo is the only one that will boot :/
[11:52] <benplaut> oooooooohhhhhhhhhh
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, Now that is confusing.
[11:52] <benplaut> am i running into chainloading...?
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, Quite possibly.  Where's grub installed?
[11:52] <benplaut> hda1
[11:53] <benplaut> 32mb ext3
[11:53] <benplaut> primary, of course
[11:53] <bimberi> renedox: hm, and that's when you run apt-get update?
[11:53] <renedox> bimberi: yeah
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, (All of it's locations...)
[11:53] <benplaut> oh
[11:54] <benplaut> wait, i figured it out
[11:54] <benplaut> (hd0,7) is hda8, not hda6!!
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, Oh?
[11:56] <bimberi> renedox: retry and see if it happens again
[11:56] <benplaut> my breezy / is on hda6 :P
[11:56] <renedox> bimberi: ok, retrying
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, (Part of what I was wondering is what's on the MBR?)
[11:56] <renedox> bimberi: oh weird, it's fine now :|
[11:57] <benplaut> tonyyarusso, if it works, i don't care... brb, i g2g see if it works :P
[11:57] <bimberi> renedox: yeah, from what i've read that 'just happens' sometimes :|
[11:57] <ToR911> Where do the C headers that match my kernels stored at?
[11:58] <renedox> bimberi: oh ok, hm.. weird.
[11:58] <renedox> bimberi: well, thanks for your help again :)
[11:58] <bimberi> renedox: np :)
[11:58] <dallows> some aplication 'kacpid' uses all cpu time :-( Can anyone help me ? PLZ PLZ
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> benplaut, All right!  Good luck.
[11:59] <benplaut> thanks :)
[11:59] <ToR911> Where do the C headers that match my kernels stored at?
[12:04] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[12:04] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows where can I find the Xdefaults o ubuntu gnome or the Xresources?
[12:09] <dallows> Can someone help me how to boot kernel without acpi ?
[12:11] <frosty> hi all, any way t oget firefox 1.5 working ?
[12:12] <ejofee> what do you folks think about fwbuilder?
[12:12] <ZC> anyone can help about NDPS?
[12:12] <Ng> frosty: see the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page :)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell frosty  about firefox1.5
[12:13] <ejofee> !firewall
[12:13] <ubotu> firewall is, like, totally, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[12:13] <frosty> thanks gnomefreak
[12:13] <gnomefreak> yw frosty
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> frosty: btw, I was able to do it with those instructions, with the only issue being symlinks for plugins.  It's pretty nice.
[12:14] <frosty> Anyone else here use Screem?
[12:15] <ejofee> !firestarter
[12:15] <ubotu> [firestarter]  Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[12:15] <gnomefreak> nope sorry frosty  but if they have templates i just might ;)
[12:15] <bimberi> dallows: add "pci=noacpi" to the kernel lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst (and the '# kopt'  line if you want it to apply to kernel updates)
[12:15] <frosty> I am new to linux, but it would appear as I am unable to ciew most text and font formating in linux...
[12:16] <frosty> or rather, in firefox
[12:16] <Kaiser_Away> hi gnomefreak
[12:16] <gnomefreak> hi Kaiser_Away
[12:16] <frosty> view that is, sorry, getting late
[12:16] <gnomefreak> frosty, 1.5 or 1.0.7?
[12:16] <frosty> 1.0.7, I was hoping that was the issue.
[12:17] <dallows> bimberi: I ll try thx
[12:17] <frosty> alot of CSS just doesn't seem to work
[12:17] <gnomefreak> sorry i have heard of some bugs in 1.5 for linux but not 1.0.7
[12:17] <bimberi> dallows: np, hope it helps :)
[12:17] <frosty> hmm, well, thanks guys, take care
[12:18] <gnomefreak> bimberi,  cant you turn off pci in bios?
[12:18] <yatesy> gnomefreak: that doesn't make sense
[12:18] <gnomefreak> yatesy, what doesnt?
[12:18] <yatesy> never mind, it could make sense :)
[12:19] <ZC> i need help about novell printing... :(
[12:19] <bimberi> gnomefreak: good question, i guess some bios' might have that option
[12:19] <dallows> bimberi: because I read that the kacpid can be stopped, when Ill boot kernel without acpi.. kacpid uses all my cpu all the time..
[12:19] <frosty> I dunno what happened to that link, how do I get ubotu to serve me again?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> !firefox1.5
[12:20] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:20] <frosty> thanks
[12:20] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:20] <spola> can i install ubuntu on a laptop with a busted cd-rom drive ? like do a net-install or maybe something like gentoo/LFS does ? I can boot from floppies, and i have knoppix installed (i know). can i turn knoppix into ubuntu by changing my sources.list or is that guarenteed to bork everything?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> !netinstall
[12:21] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yes :(
[12:21] <bimberi> !install
[12:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[12:21] <gnomefreak> ty bimberi
[12:21] <bimberi> spola: lots of options there ^^^
[12:21] <bimberi> gnomefreak: np :)
[12:22] <spola> bimberi, can you help me out ?
[12:22] <spola> oh wait i didnt see that link was for me lol
[12:22] <bimberi> spola: probably not - apart from the link :)
[12:24] <Inf3ctedFx> doesn anyone knows a website where show how to make the aterm transparent?
[12:24] <Cica> hi,  have a question
[12:24] <Cica> what are system requirements for Ubuntu distro?
[12:24] <Ng> Inf3ctedFx: have you read aterm's man page?
[12:24] <Inf3ctedFx> the same one for any linux distro
[12:25] <Inf3ctedFx> yes Ng  and is really confusing to me
[12:25] <Ng> Inf3ctedFx: ok, then have you tried googling for, say, "aterm transparent"?
[12:25] <Ng> Inf3ctedFx: if you do, the first result will probably be what you want :)
[12:25] <Ng> -probably :)
[12:26] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm on it Ng  the problem is every path they post the ater always have the scroll bar there
[12:26] <Inf3ctedFx> I remember I use to have a website it show everyting pretty good and someone from here gave it to me
[12:26] <Cica> I wanted to run installation on an old machine 195MHz #@ MB ram
[12:26] <Cica> and it had crushed
[12:26] <Cica> several times
[12:27] <bimberi> Cica - how much RAM? and Disk?
[12:27] <Cica> 32 ram
[12:27] <Cica> 1,18GB disk
[12:27] <Ng> Inf3ctedFx: you want to hide the scrollbar? the man page says -sb hides it
[12:27] <deFrysk> #@ = 32 with shift
[12:27] <Cica> 195 pentiom mmx
[12:27] <bimberi> deFrysk: tks - just making sure :)
[12:28] <Inf3ctedFx> Ng:  yes actually what I want it is desapeer the scrollbar
[12:28] <Kaiser_Away> Cica: you want about a 500 with 128mb RAM or more
[12:28] <Kaiser_Away> you can run it with less, but it's not so nice
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> Is there an option for locate to make it include hidden files?  I couldn't find anything in the man page.
[12:28] <Ng> Inf3ctedFx: sorry, not -sb, +sb :)
[12:28] <bimberi> Cica: you could try a server install first, then try a lightweight DE like fluxbox (or xfce?)
[12:28] <Inf3ctedFx> ok thx Ng
[12:29] <Ng> tonyyarusso: hidden files?
[12:29] <Ng> tonyyarusso: such as?
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Ng: .Xmodmap
[12:29] <Ng> tonyyarusso: it will index them, there just are no files called that by default
[12:29] <Cica> hm, there was always a problem with installation of firware
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Oh?
[12:29] <Cica> it had crashed there
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Ng: I thought I had seen it before...
[12:30] <Ng> tonyyarusso: try "locate .bashrc" and you'll see it includes . files :)
[12:30] <Inf3ctedFx> Ng: thx really now the last touch is how to hide the borders?
[12:30] <Cica> have no clue what it could mean, cause im not that keen in linux...
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Very true.
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> Ng: All right, so I'm just crazy.
[12:30] <Kaiser_Away> Cica: ubutnu will not install on a box with less then 64MB of RAM IIRC
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Do you know what file has keybindings in it then?
[12:31] <Ng> Inf3ctedFx: no idea, I suggest googling ;)
[12:31] <Inf3ctedFx> ok thx anyway
[12:32] <Ng> tonyyarusso: you can create a .Xmodmap in your home directory if you want, but it's not really keybindings so much as keymappings afaik
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Oh, okay.  (Trying to follow someone else's instructions for something...)
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Thanks.
[12:34] <Ng> np
[12:34] <Cica> ok, finally I foun it o the ubuntu page
[12:34] <Cica> btw. it is terrible
[12:34] <Cica> hodge poddge
[12:35] <Cica> I'll switch to slackware
[12:35] <Cica> there are less system requirements
[12:37] <unikon> im having an issue with the login portion of the breezy distro where it says username@ububtu
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Can I set keyboard shortcuts for Firefox 1.5?  (for forward and back, specifically)
[12:37] <unikon> anyidea what i should type in
[12:38] <alpunk> I need a good P2P program and help installing it.
[12:39] <unikon> alpunk  what os are u on
[12:39] <alpunk> ubuntu
[12:39] <unikon> try thelimewire linux install package
[12:40] <hmpedersen> Right.. My wlan card is refusing to connect to any networks..
[12:40] <alpunk> unikon, I tried that, I couldn't get it to work, I loved limewire for windows but, I couldn't get it to work for linux
[12:41] <ubuntu> Buenas noches
[12:41] <ubuntu> dias
[12:41] <ubuntu> etc..
[12:41] <ubuntu> xD
[12:41] <ubuntu> se me lee?
[12:41] <bimberi> alpunk: you could try gtk-gnutella - "sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella" (if the universe repository is enabled)
[12:42] <dallows> bimberi: hm.. can u do it on my server by the SSH plz ?
[12:43] <alpunk> bimberi, okay, I just done that now how do I get it to show up in my menus?
[12:43] <bimberi> dallows: put your menu.lst on a pastebin and i'll suggest changes
[12:43] <bimberi> alpunk: Applications -> Internet
[12:43] <alpunk> bimberi, I know, I'm sorry, woke up to early
[12:43] <bimberi> alpunk: :)
[12:44] <dallows> bimberi: okok
[12:45] <alpunk> bimberi, it says I have a very old version, how do I update it?
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know if the repository problems are being fixed?
[12:48] <bimberi> alpunk: what is it? (mine is 0.95.4-1 via "dpkg -l gtk-gnutella")
[12:48] <dallows> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/472913
[12:48] <alpunk> bimberi, that's what mine is too but, I can't get anything to show up on it.  it says I'm firewalled but I don't know how to fix that
[12:50] <bimberi> alpunk: hm, mine says that too - but works ok. not sure sorry
[12:50] <Ng> tonyyarusso: what repository problems?
[12:51] <alpunk> bimberi, I just type what I'm looking for in the search bar, correct?  dumb question but, maybe I'm not doing something right.
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Some of them have been offline.
[12:51] <bimberi> dallows: add " pci=noacpi" to lines 106 (and 62 for kernel updates)
[12:52] <Ng> tonyyarusso: seems ok to me *shrug*
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Mainly universe, multiverse, and updates for me.
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> Ng: On the Canada mirror.
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> Ng: A lot of different people had issues with them yesterday.
[12:52] <Ng> switch to more reliable mirrors ;)
[12:53] <bimberi> alpunk: yep, that's right, then click on the search on the left to see the results
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Which are you on?
[12:53] <pezztozo> hi
[12:53] <L> I need help for Linux Ubuntu plz PM me !
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Ng: What's that tool, netsomething or other, for testing mirror speed?
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> L: Ask what you need.
[12:53] <Ng> tonyyarusso: I'm in the UK, so I'm using those. apt-spy
[12:53] <Hobbsee> !tell L about ask
[12:54] <alpunk> bimberi, that what I thought.  thanks
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Heh.  Don't have apt-spy, and can't get it with bad repos.  I remember something different too though.
[12:55] <L> I need help for Linux Ubuntu plz
[12:55] <Ng> L: if you need help, tell us what you want help with, otherwise stopo repeating yourself please :)
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> L: Well presumably that would be why you're here.
[12:55] <L> ok ok
[12:56] <L> So i want to install a program which is in a .tgz
[12:56] <L> But how can i do ?
[12:56] <Ng> tonyyarusso: have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive and you can manually switch to different mirrors
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> L: Unpack the tarball, then run something along the lines of ./configure, which is probably in it.
[12:56] <Ng> L: in a terminal "tar -xvzf /path/to/the/file.tgz" and then read the INSTALL or README it includdes
[12:57] <Ng> L: are you sure whatever it is isn't available in ubuntu?
[12:57] <L> yes it is !
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Yeah, just more work; too bad the easy route didn't work.  Not a problem though.
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> L: Because debs are super-easy.
[12:58] <Hobbsee> L: what program is this?
[12:58] <L> cedega
[12:58] <Ng> transgaming provide .debs of cedega if you are a subscriber - much easier solution
[12:59] <alpunk> I'm trying to install Java, can anyone help?
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> So... apt-get linux-image, linux-restricted-modules, linux-headers over a 14.4; that should be fun.
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> alpunk: Probably.
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> alpunk, What have you tried already?
[01:00] <Liothen> does ubuntu have fluxbox as an apt-get?
[01:00] <irvin> alpunk, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[01:00] <irvin> obutu you alive?
[01:00] <irvin> Liothen, yes
[01:00] <irvin> obotu you alive?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[01:00] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:00] <L> so i did tar -xvfz /path/cedega.tgz now it listed all files from the .tgz now what can i do ?
[01:00] <bimberi> ubotu irvin is misspelling your name
[01:00] <Hobbsee> i'd say so...
[01:00] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !tell L about cedega
[01:01] <bimberi> !forget irvin
[01:01] <irvin> geez
[01:01] <ubotu> i forgot irvin, bimberi
[01:01] <irvin> thanks bimberi
[01:01] <Ng> L: that extracted the files, they are in the current directory (or in a cedega directory in the current directory)
[01:01] <bimberi> oops - didn't mean that to happen :)
[01:01] <alpunk> irvin, it says couldn't find package
[01:01] <Ng> alpunk: the best solution to getting java is to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[01:01] <bimberi> alpunk:  you will need to enable the multiverse repository
[01:01] <L> whit cedega i can play games withotu windows
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !javadeb
[01:02] <Ng> alpunk: and the "Selecting the default Java version" below those instructions
[01:03] <bimberi> !+javadeb
[01:03] <ubotu> I guess javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ .IBM Java debs (for PPC) are at http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/ .To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:03] <L> Ng yes files are extracted but now ? i dont know how to install it it just start linux !
[01:03] <bimberi> wow, + is back!
[01:03] <Ng> the giannaros debs are out of date
[01:04] <onkarshinde> Is anyone using IBM JDK 1.5 on Ubuntu?
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> bimberi, What's + do?
[01:04] <apokryphos> Ng: how so?
[01:04] <Ng> L: I don't know either, but among those files will be a README or INSTALL file, you need to read that and it will tell you what to do. If you are a transgaming subscriber I strongly recommend you download their .debs instead
[01:04] <Ng> apokryphos: they are update4, update6 is the latest sun download
[01:05] <hmpedersen> Is there a way to get a wireless lan card working again, when it suddenly refuses to search for networks, without reinstalling ubuntu? It works fine on anottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttther laptop..
[01:05] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: forces the factoid to appear in the channel rather than as a /msg if it's over a paticular limit
[01:05] <Ng> apokryphos: third party repositories are notorious for never being updated :/
[01:05] <L> Ng: ok thx !!
[01:05] <hmpedersen> annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd it seems to make keys hang on this laptop.. Now i juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust dont want to waste anymorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre time removing all the clutter..
[01:05] <apokryphos> Ng: a little dated. I may update them if I get bored enough today 8)
[01:05] <apokryphos> hmpedersen: please stop doing that; it's annoying.
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> bimberi, Ah.  Cool.
[01:05] <hmpedersen> Doing what?
[01:06] <Ng> apokryphos: ah, is it your site? You may not remember, but when you first put them up I said you shouldn't because they'd get out of date ;)
[01:06] <apokryphos> Ng: any patched packs accepted ;-)
[01:06] <LordCrusader> hello me again
[01:06] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: :)
[01:06] <apokryphos> Ng: that would be a really bad reason to not put them up
[01:06] <LordCrusader> um how do you get a program to turn on automatically when you log on or turn your computer on?
[01:06] <Ng> apokryphos: I disagree, but this is the wrong place to discuss this
[01:06] <hmpedersen> apokryphos, stop doing what?
[01:07] <apokryphos> hmpedersen: repetitive characters in words. Floods the channel.
[01:07] <Ng> LordCrusader: is it a graphical application you want to run or console?
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, In Gnome, terminal, KDE, or other?  I know Gnome has System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup.
[01:07] <LordCrusader> like say i want a certain game to start running as soon as i log on or turn my computer on
[01:08] <hmpedersen> apokryphos, as i clearly stated, i cant be bothered removing them anymore! Ubbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuntu seems to create those -everytime- i                                               attempt to make my wlan card work!
[01:08] <Ng> LordCrusader: the Sessions tool tonyyarusso just pointed you at should be fine, that'll run things when you log in
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, Are you using Gnome?
[01:08] <apokryphos> hmpedersen: then unfortunately you'll have to stop posting in here if you can't be bothered to make your posts appropriate
[01:08] <LordCrusader> Gnome
[01:09] <LordCrusader> what would i put in the terminal box?
[01:09] <apokryphos> hmpedersen: you'll either have to fix the program, or hassle yourself to make them comply.
[01:09] <apokryphos> s/program/problem/
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, Then you're good to go with that, yeah.
[01:09] <hmpedersen> apokryphos, i                                                have spent 3 days removing all those.. And I hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhave yet to receive any help!
[01:09] <LordCrusader> what about when i turn my comp off, when i turn it back on will the program start automatically?
[01:10] <apokryphos> hmpedersen: I'm sorry to hear about that, but we can't let it go on as is. Last warning.
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, The command for whatever the game is (can be found with the menu editor in Breezy, fyi)
[01:10] <Ng> LordCrusader: no, but you can use "sudo gdmsetup" to automatically log on a specific user when the machine boots, so that will then trigger running the game
[01:10] <LordCrusader> breezy?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, As soon as you log in to a Gnome session.
[01:10] <sense> Why GtkGnutella thinks tham Im behind a firewall
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Could you do an apt-cache policy apt-spy for me?
[01:11] <L> Ng: so there is a cedega directory in my personal dir.
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, That's true.
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger", the current stable release.
[01:11] <Ng> L: if that's where you ran the command from, yes, there should be
[01:11] <nagi> How cope file in terminal with ubuntu 5.10 ?
[01:12] <mcphail> nagi: cp source destination
[01:12] <bimberi> nagi: cp file1 file2
[01:12] <thegladiator> i am trying to start a java program of mine ( jin - interface for internet chess club) but an error comes up saying --->Failed to start plaugins . actions , java.lang.NullpointerException :Null . can nyone help in resolving this thing ? i am using Sun Java
[01:12] <hmpedersen> I give up.. Im going to bring this card back to the shop tomorrow.. Purchased it only because they said it was linux compatible..
[01:12] <L> Ng: But i cant found cedega.sh in bin directory ............ xD
[01:12] <thegladiator> the program used to work till yesterday , sudenly ubuntu messed up
[01:12] <nagi> Thank you mcphail & bimberi
[01:12] <hmpedersen> (linux compatible if u use ndiswrapper, that is)
[01:13] <Ng> L: are you a transgaming subscriber?
[01:13] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: ARe you sure you don't need to set some class path?
[01:13] <bimberi> nagi: np :)
[01:13] <L> Ng : Yes ! since yesterday
[01:13] <thegladiator> i am not sure , could you pelase help me ?
[01:14] <Ng> L: then please take my advice and go back to their site and download the .deb version instead of the .tgz version, then install them with "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/file.deb", it will be *much* easier
[01:14] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: where are you starting the program from?
[01:14] <thegladiator> it was working till yesterday and the only command i did , in case , was PATH=$PATH:/home/thegladiator
[01:14] <ben_underscore> thegladiator, do an echo $CLASS_PATH in terminal
[01:14] <L> okook ok thx a lot
[01:14] <thegladiator> the Desktop->its a launher to the folder
[01:15] <LordCrusader> does anyone know of a good dvd decoder for a dvd player
[01:15] <thegladiator> ben_underscore, echo $CLASS_PATH returns nothing
[01:15] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: It will be good if you set your CLASSPATH env variable to approriate jar file or directory
[01:15] <ben_underscore> thegladiator, as said onkarshinde
[01:15] <onkarshinde> LordCrusader: what do you mean exactly? Do you want to play dvd on your machine?
[01:16] <LordCrusader> onkarshinde, yes
[01:16] <thegladiator> shindeji , but is the CLASSPATH variable a glabal one ? There are many other Java applications i run , they woprk
[01:16] <ben_underscore> thegladiator, it is basically complaining that it cannot find a component (JAR or .CLASS file) in the applications installation tree
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> I seriously need to remember to disable the bulk of my sources while at home. apt-get update takes forever on all of these with my connection.
[01:16] <onkarshinde> LordCrusader: install totem-xine. I also heard the ogle is best dvd player, never tried though. VLC is also very good.
[01:17] <LordCrusader> VLC says it's been discontinued
[01:17] <LordCrusader> i do have totem
[01:17] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: then better modify the launcher to fire command 'java -cp somedir yourapplication'
[01:17] <thegladiator> ben_underscore, ok . so the CLass Path variable shud be set to the folder containing the jar file ? What about my other Java programs then ? Like i run azureus which works well
[01:17] <LordCrusader> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[01:17] <hmpedersen> apokryphos, you op in here?
[01:17] <thegladiator> lemme try that
[01:17] <LordCrusader> that's the error i get when i try to play a dvd
[01:18] <onkarshinde> LordCrusader: VLC is in repos. Totem by default uses gstreaner backend. That is why you need totem-xine package
[01:18] <apokryphos> hmpedersen: yup
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> Is there any sort of trick / tool that would make it look like there was more varied activity to prevent disconnection during a long download over dialup?
[01:18] <onkarshinde> LordCrusader: Further you may need to install w32codecs.
[01:18] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, the file is located at /Programs/Jin , should i set CLASSPATH to the same ?
[01:19] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: is it jar file?
[01:19] <hmpedersen> apokryphos, im sorry.. I didnt mean to be rude before.. Just plain angry at the shop who sold me that netcard..
[01:19] <apokryphos> that's alright
[01:19] <LordCrusader> I installed this pentium thing, it suppose to make your pentium work in like over drive or something. Do you know what i'm talking about?
[01:20] <thegladiator> yes it a jar file , the launcher actually opens a shell file , which changes the directory to /Programs/Jin and then does java -jar jin.jar
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> Can I make a string of commands run in order, like when I use a pipe, but with ones that aren't related?  Maybe it works the same way?
[01:20] <LordCrusader> your suppose to be able to control the speed of it, and i can't find where it put it, it said it installed, but it's no where to be found
[01:20] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: 'java -cp /Programs/Jin -jar /Programs/Jin/somefile.jar' should do
[01:20] <bimberi> Tony_Sidaway: cmd1 && cmd2
[01:21] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: ^^^ (sry Tony_Sidaway )
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> bimberi, Got it.
[01:21] <restagner>  hello...has anybody out there encountered problems with ubuntu recognizing a memory stick?
[01:21] <LordCrusader> nop
[01:21] <LordCrusader> nope
[01:22] <restagner> i'm having trouble getting the system to properly recognize my USB stick
[01:22] <LordCrusader> that reminds me, is 98megs of ram sufficient for ubuntu, cause thats' all i've got
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> restagner, Not at all.
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, For the system, it should be; I don't know how much X takes.
[01:23] <LordCrusader> x?
[01:23] <restagner> tonyyarusso: actually this is for kubuntu
[01:23] <LordCrusader> ubuntu, kubuntu. What's the difference?
[01:24] <Astxist> one has kde as the default wdm and the other uses gnome
[01:24] <LordCrusader> oh ok
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, The X Window system; used for everything beyond just a console.
[01:24] <LordCrusader> ok
[01:24] <restagner> tonyyarusso: ok here is what i'm seeing:  An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1:
[01:24] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone knows what is the command to make the aterm borders hide or transparent?
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, Does the web site have system reqs on it?
[01:24] <LordCrusader> what site?
[01:24] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, ava -cp /home/thegladiator/Programs/Jin -jar /home/thegladiator/Programs/Jin/jin.jar , is this the command ?
[01:24] <thegladiator> java*
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> restagner, Does it say what the error is?
[01:25] <restagner> tonyyarusso: The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist.
[01:25] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, this returns an error saying you are not running from the directory
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> restagner, What happens if you make the folder ahead of time and then plug it in?
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> restagner, (Completely guessing stuff on this one.)
[01:26] <LordCrusader> does anyone know of a good program for system monitoring?
[01:26] <LordCrusader> like a little meter in the corner of the screen type of monitor?
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, Do you not like the default one?
[01:27] <restagner> i tried that...unfortunately, same problem.  yet, when i go to the /media/usbdisk/ directory i can access my data.
[01:27] <LordCrusader> where is no monitor bar or anything
[01:27] <apokryphos> LordCrusader: there's very many decent Superkaramba themes that do the job nicely
[01:27] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, it was working till yesterday
[01:27] <restagner> tonyyarusso: mount command returns: /dev/sdb1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat
[01:27] <eSPete> how do i reconfigure the network interface without reboot?
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> restagner, Odd.
[01:28] <apokryphos> eSPete: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0
[01:28] <LordCrusader> I downloaded a "Splash?" and i installed it, but i can't figure out how to activate it and disable my old splash screen
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> LordCrusader, Yeah, there do exist little utilities for that kind of thing, but I don't have a recommendation.
[01:28] <onkarshinde> thegladiator: Can't really help you.
[01:28] <LordCrusader> ok tony
[01:29] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, np. thanks
[01:29] <LordCrusader> what about the splash incident
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> restagner, I really have no idea, sorry.
[01:29] <restagner> tonyyarusso: oh well...thanks for trying to help.  i'm going to try and see if i can find more information on the mailing lists
[01:29] <eSPete> apokryphos, is that the same as ifconfig eth0 down/up?
[01:31] <k31th> guys anyone got any suggestions for my post ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=593426#post593426
[01:31] <k31th> its about network backup
[01:32] <apokryphos> eSPete: probably
[01:34] <Ng> k31th: rsync :)
[01:34] <Ng> k31th: you can use cygwin to install an rsyncd on the windows box if you want, avoids using smb
[01:34] <k31th> Ng: i read about that but it wont work with 2003 server iirc
[01:35] <k31th> id prefer to use rsync and ssh tbj
[01:36] <k31th> tbh*
[01:36] <Ng> k31th: cygwin or the rsyncd bit won't work?
[01:36] <Ng> I woudl expect it would, but I haven't used 2003
[01:36] <k31th> cygwin on 2003
[01:36] <k31th> also i need to bk up the exchange db
[01:36] <spike> hi there
[01:36] <spike> how do I prevent modules to be loaded at boot time?
[01:37] <spike> back in the days it was /etc/modules, but now nothing is in there
[01:37] <stremic> how can i run a file named irrecord.c
[01:37] <Ng> k31th: well there's a cygwin/x server for 2003, so I would think it would be fine
[01:37] <spike> yet I get modules like parport loaded at boot time, probably because it detecs I have a parport
[01:37] <spike> how can I tell it to not load some modules?
[01:37] <Ng> spike: make a file with a list of modules to exclude in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ afaik
[01:38] <k31th> Ng: ill look into iy
[01:38] <k31th> it*
[01:38] <spike> Ng: oh, it's hotplug then, that does the discovering and load modules, eh?
[01:38] <k31th> Ng: so if i use cygwin will it keep the permissions for windows?
[01:38] <k31th> on the fiels it bksup
[01:39] <spike> Ng: thought that was only for stuff after the boot, ie, for usb keys, and things like that
[01:40] <Ng> spike: it runs at boot time and loads modules for all the hardware it can find
[01:40] <Ng> k31th: I'm not 100% sure about that - windows permissions don't map 100% to unix ones
[01:40] <spike> Ng: it doesnt appear to be so... I found a file called blacklist in /etc/hotplug/, and there is listed, among others, usbcore. but usbcore is loaded ayway
[01:41] <spike> Ng: should I move that file inside blacklist.d/ ?
[01:41] <Ng> no
[01:41] <stremic> can somewhere tell me what i should do to run file in c format
[01:41] <k31th> Ng: yeah looks like ill have to try it and see
[01:41] <mcphail> stremic: you need to compile and link it first
[01:42] <stremic> how can i do that
[01:42] <mcphail> stremic: try: gcc -o program source.c
[01:42] <stremic> o.k.
[01:44] <MrFarts> mmmmkat
[01:44] <MrFarts> kay
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> Say, I just got an interesting idea from the Xubuntu wiki page.  If someone wanted KDE and wanted to save some time/space, could they do a server install off the Ubuntu disk and then download kubuntu-desktop?
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[01:46] <nagi> Hello
[01:47] <Astxist> hi hi nagi
[01:47] <DewDude> woooo....monkeys-audio works!
[01:48] <Astxist> DewDude, MAC?
[01:48] <nagi> How to cope repertory to repertory in the terminal with ubuntu 5.10 ?
[01:48] <Astxist> er I mean .ape files?
[01:48] <DewDude> yeah
[01:48] <DewDude> it took me a while
[01:48] <DewDude> but i got it
[01:48] <Astxist> nagi, repository?
[01:48] <Astxist> DewDude, could you share how :) ?
[01:49] <DewDude> ha...ha
[01:49] <nagi> cope
[01:49] <DewDude> i found it on the ubuntu forums
[01:49] <DewDude> you have to add some pretty scary looking repositories
[01:49] <Astxist> ouchy
[01:49] <DewDude> coupld of unstable/testing
[01:49] <nagi> cope repertory to another repertory (on hdd fat32)
[01:49] <Astxist> knew I should've converted them to flac, sigh
[01:49] <DewDude> no no
[01:49] <DewDude> hold on
[01:50] <DewDude> i can look it up
[01:50] <Astxist> nagi, sorry I don't seem to know that :)
[01:50] <DewDude> Astxist, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42350
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> Does ubuntu have a mailing list (or even better, RSS feed) for announcing new releases / flight CDs?
[01:50] <DewDude> that tells you how to get libmac2
[01:50] <Astxist> DewDude, thank you
[01:50] <DewDude> which from there..the gstreamer plugin will work
[01:50] <SAM_theman> Good Morning my Little Earthlings
[01:50] <DewDude> along with beep-media-player
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso: it has a list, not sure about rss, you whould have to check the site
[01:51] <Astxist> SAM_theman, daddy!
[01:51] <Astxist> ;p
[01:51] <DewDude> you'll have to upgrade all your gstremer elements tho
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser, Thanks.
[01:51] <DewDude> don't do full system upgrade
[01:51] <DewDude> just manually upgrade all the gstreamer componets
[01:51] <Astxist> DewDude, heh I'll look into it :)
[01:51] <DewDude> heh, alrighty
[01:51] <DewDude> i'm just saving you time
[01:52] <Astxist> I might pass over it if it gets too scary though
[01:52] <DewDude> heh
[01:52] <DewDude> i'm not a linux genuis either
[01:52] <DewDude> i just played with ubuntu a lot
[01:52] <DewDude> on PPC
[01:52] <Astxist> I'm doing the same
[01:53] <Astxist> on x86 though
[01:53] <DewDude> yeah
[01:53] <SAM_theman> lol
[01:53] <DewDude> i'm on x86 now too
[01:53] <SAM_theman> iameating
[01:53] <SAM_theman> *i am eating
[01:53] <Astxist> I guess ppc would be easier for nix, less hardware to have to know
[01:53] <DewDude> but...yeah...just follow that post..then afterwards...go in to adept or synaptic and upgrade all the gstrteamer componets
[01:54] <DewDude> the repositories have a newer version than what's un ubuntu..and it breaks if you don't upgrade
[01:54] <DewDude> don't do full system upgrade
[01:54] <Astxist> I used to be quite the windows advocate actually, but I'm rather liking ubuntu and the whole free software ideal :)
[01:54] <DewDude> it'll remove packages and break your system
[01:54] <SAM_theman> guys i just installed kubuntu-desktop before i went to sleep were is it?
[01:54] <No2117> I really hope I'm not the only person experiencing this problem. But what is GRUB error 2?
[01:54] <DewDude> SAM: when you log into your box..you should see a button that says Session Type
[01:55] <DewDude> click that, select KDE, and log in
[01:57] <charlie> Are most rpg and fps games availble for ubuntu: ex: battlefield 1942?
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Does having a lot of things installed on your system slow it down much even if you aren't using them all at once?  For instance, would having both Gnome and KDE hinder performance?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> you would have a few extra services, other then that no
[01:58] <DewDude> tony: no..that's the beauty of linux
[01:58] <DewDude> in fact
[01:58] <alexissoft> shi
[01:58] <DewDude> you can run gnome AND kde together at the same time on different terminal windows
[01:58] <DewDude> people drop a jaw when you hit alt f-something and totally change your UI
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> love doing that sort of stuff
[01:59] <DewDude> oh, yeah
[01:59] <DewDude> it's great
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> or run them side by side - that freaks people
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, Definitely trying that sometime to show off.
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> 1 monitor, 2 desktops visibile
[01:59] <DewDude> how?
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser, How?
[01:59] <DewDude> i've never heard of that
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't know, mate of mine did it
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser, Find out and fill us in!
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. I'll try
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> it involved running x on it's own, and running [k,g] dm side by side (how, no idea)
[02:00] <DewDude> i don't know either
[02:01] <DewDude> i know it was fun getting dual-desktop working
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> Can extra programs be downloaded with apt and used during a Live CD session?
[02:01] <DewDude> i just need to figure out how to execute x-apps on a machine remotely
[02:01] <DewDude> tonyyarusso, i don't see why not
[02:01] <DewDude> they'll just go away when you reboot
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> And if so, would they be downloaded to RAM, or could you choose to put them on say, a flash drive?
[02:02] <DewDude> they go to ram
[02:02] <stremic> mcphail: i tried gcc -o in the terminal but the comand was not found
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: do you mean launch an app and have it appear on the remote box?
[02:02] <DewDude> stremic: you trying to compile stuff
[02:02] <DewDude> Kamping_Kaiser, i've got ubuntu on a colo box
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, Would there be any way to change that, to save the RAM space for running things?
[02:03] <DewDude> i'd like to figure out how to get into the box so i could like...say...run a news reader on the server....but view the output on my machine
[02:03] <DewDude> i know you can do that
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: use x forwarding
[02:03] <DewDude> i've just never tried
[02:03] <DewDude> yeah
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, For demonstrating the OS to someone you're trying to convince to migrate, for instance.
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> either Xnest, or ssh -x
[02:03] <DewDude> tony: no
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, Shoot.  That would be a really slick thing to add if anyone here's into development.
[02:04] <DewDude> i'm sure it would
[02:04] <DewDude> but don't look at me
[02:04] <DewDude> i'm a n00b
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, Me too.
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> Any developers in here looking for a project?  See above about Live CD apt-gets to USB flash drives.  That would be sweet.
[02:05] <DewDude> i've just installed unbuntu a few times and used it for a couple months
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: xnest or ssh x forwarding, i might be able to help you if you want
[02:06] <DewDude> well
[02:06] <DewDude> thing is....i don't know how to get into x on the thing
[02:06] <DewDude> it's a 2U rackmount
[02:06] <DewDude> no monitor
[02:06] <DewDude> no mouse
[02:06] <DewDude> just network and power
[02:06] <northie> I'm looking for a lossless way to join a couple of avis. Anyone?
[02:06] <northie> Or rather, I'm looking to burn a couple of avis into a video dvd.
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: you sure it has x? but if it has ssh you can use that to config it
[02:07] <northie> But I suppose the first would help the latter.
[02:07] <northie> :/
[02:07] <DewDude> oh, it's got SSH
[02:07] <DewDude> i'm pretty sure it's got x
[02:07] <DewDude> my friend just did a default install and enabled SSH over network and set IP's
[02:07] <DewDude> then he sent it off
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool.
[02:08] <northie> nfi, Kaiser?
[02:08] <DewDude> the rest of the actual server config
[02:08] <DewDude> was done there
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> no friggin idea northie
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:08] <northie> Aww.
[02:08] <northie> :)
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) sorry
[02:08] <DewDude> hey Kamping_Kaiser, you ever use gstreamer?
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> All right, I must be going, to leave this thing for a kernel upgrade download on my ridiculous connection.
[02:08] <northie> I really need to do this pretty often.
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. not as such, I'm using it on my system
[02:09] <northie> Maybe if I convert the avis to mpegs, I could join those with cat.
[02:09] <rasskass82> hi. i am searching for a terminal-program like hyperterminal for windows so i can send at-commands to my modem
[02:09] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, breezy?
[02:09] <northie> And then burn them through... something.
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Yeah.
[02:09] <sitos> nas
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ummmm 2.6.12-10? or a newer one?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> <<windows right now
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, It apparently installed the wrong one, which is working for now, but I might as well get it right.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Going from 2.6.12-9-386 to 2.6.12-10-686.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ty i just wasnt sure if i should change over yet
[02:10] <thegladiator> !paste
[02:10] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Ah.
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, I see Dapper has .15-9, but I'll wait for its release.
[02:11] <gnomefreak> me too tried dapper already and came back to breezy
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: you have to set ssh forwarding in your sshd_config
[02:11] <DewDude> dapper should come out in....april?
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, What didn't you like?
[02:11] <Ng> DewDude: yes
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, Correct.
[02:11] <DewDude> ...damn i'm good
[02:11] <gnomefreak> nothing worked no xchat no sources but i could open web page
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol DewDude
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Sad.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ill brb i gotta fix this now :(
[02:12] <DewDude> i used to hang around here..i got banned after i passed out on the keyboard one night in September
[02:12] <DewDude> that's when i was learning ubuntu on PPC
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, Nice.
[02:12] <thegladiator> can someone help me in figuring out this error when I run a java program of mine ? it was working fine and suddenly i am clueless . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5997 , line 44 is the exact error that i get in GUI . thank you
[02:12] <DewDude> i had a damn nice little box
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> DewDude, I picked it up in August.
[02:12] <DewDude> threw apache on it
[02:12] <DewDude> bitlbe
[02:12] <DewDude> had cgi:irc installed on it...just a tiny little imac
[02:13] <DewDude> but, i realized i was getting too rusty...so, i bought a new hard drive and tossed it on my x86
[02:14] <pl_ice> hi
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:15] <pl_ice> any ideas why i can't install winesetup and wine together? ...
[02:15] <gnomefreak> am i still here?
[02:16] <DewDude> Kamping_Kaiser, that's what i've been wondering
[02:16] <DewDude> cuz i'm pretty sure the box is sitting at gdm
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: you can do it without ssh easy, but it's the security i want :)
[02:16] <DewDude> if you were to hook a monitor to it
[02:16] <DewDude> heh
[02:17] <SAM_theman> ** (process:12253): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:17] <SAM_theman> S
[02:17] <DewDude> i wish i could use SSRC with gstreamer
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: also, you could try vnc of some sort
[02:17] <DewDude> Kamping_Kaiser, i thought about this
[02:17] <DewDude> but
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> One last question: How do you stop X?
[02:17] <DewDude> i never got it to work
[02:18] <DewDude> cuz i tried when i had a linux box over the local network
[02:18] <gnomefreak> kill x i think
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> And make the system just console?
[02:18] <pl_ice> any ideas why i can't install wine and winesetup at same time? ..
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso: sudo /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop
[02:18] <SAM_theman> wtf
[02:18] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/472982
[02:18] <n37> hi :)
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: they don't like each other
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser, Shouldn't there be something easier, as a pair with startx?
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Maybe.
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shrug*
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's how i stop it
[02:18] <n37> *rofl*
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser, All right.
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi n37
[02:19] <pl_ice> hm, i thought that it was ok with hoary ...
[02:19] <n37> :)
[02:19] <SAM_theman> brb let me see if KDE is really installed with all thoes errors and Faileds and Crit's
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: do you want a secure connection?
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> or not?
[02:20] <n37> im looking 4 a packet to install apache, mysql, etc etc... any ideas? :)
[02:20] <n37> like appserv 4 win32 :o
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> there is no metapackage
[02:20] <n37> :S
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> hyou have to install them with apt by typing them in
[02:20] <DewDude> yeah..kinda
[02:20] <n37> hummm
[02:20] <DewDude> i wouldn't want someone to tap in and see my warez
[02:20] <DewDude> did i say warez
[02:20] <plasmoduck[a] > I get this error when I startx: fatal io error 104(connection reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[02:21] <DewDude> i meant the data on my server
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: you could just use x then, not bother with vnc
[02:21] <DewDude> yeah
[02:21] <DewDude> i mostly want it for doing stuff i can't do well in console
[02:21] <DewDude> like newsgroups
[02:22] <n37> anyone developing in mono on ubuntu?
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: `sudo $editor /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf`, and change a few lines in the XDMCP section
[02:23] <pl_ice> bad hangover :/
[02:23] <n37> *lmao*
[02:23] <DewDude> alrighty
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> find this -> [xdmcp] 
[02:23] <n37> no devs on mono there?
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. what editor are you using?
[02:24] <pm> helloooooooooooooo
[02:24] <n37> hi :)
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi pm
[02:24] <pm> whazup?
[02:24] <n37> no one 4 getting support on mono? :?
[02:24] <VincentMX> hi
[02:25] <DewDude> i'm gonna have to get XP on here again and retag my music collection
[02:25] <DewDude> cuz amaroK...is really freakin nice
[02:25] <n37> rofl
[02:25] <n37> get a life better :)
[02:25] <n37> any mono developers??
[02:25] <pm> why is it freakin?
[02:26] <n37> Oo
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: found that bit in the file?
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> because the other word is not allowed pm ;)
[02:26] <n37> what other word? :))
[02:26] <pm> f*ck? :>
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[02:27] <SAM_theman> ok iam in kde
[02:27] <DewDude> dude, i'm not SSH'd to the server right now
[02:27] <pm> is there a word fick in english? :?
[02:27] <pm> or fock?
[02:27] <gnube> pm no
[02:27] <gnube> pm nope
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> DewDude: oh, lol
[02:27] <SAM_theman> yes its call "Fuck"
[02:27] <clovis> how do partition with windowns instaled?
[02:27] <Ng> if you guys want to talk about english vernacular, #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place
[02:27] <DewDude> i spent all day yesterday working on just getting monkeys-audio working
[02:27] <psurani> pls tell me how to update 5.10 ubuntu ? from which website i wil get all info for 5.10 ?
[02:27] <DewDude> now i'm going to enjoy
[02:27] <clovis> someone could help me?
[02:27] <n37> any1 knows a channel 4 mono dev?
[02:27] <deFrysk> !upgrade
[02:27] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:28] <gnube> !bug
[02:28] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[02:28] <psurani> thnx
[02:28] <n37> !nabz
[02:28] <ubotu> I don't know, n37
[02:28] <n37> :))
[02:28] <pm> i'm Polish, i don't know english hence my question :)
[02:28] <pm> English :)
[02:28] <n37> spanish ownz ;p
[02:28] <gnube> Are web bug squashing today?
[02:29] <clovis> someone could help me doing a partition for ubuntu with windows installed?
[02:29] <n37> fdisk
[02:29] <n37> ;D
[02:29] <SAM_theman> weres the settings in KDE 3.5 ?
[02:29] <gnube> clovis; be careful, I wiped out a windows partition that way recently. BUt I was being sloppy.
[02:29] <n37> rofl
[02:29] <Absenth> is Breezy capible of connecting to a Wireless Access Point that's using WPA and TKIP?  If so can someone point me in the direction of what I need to do/add/or otherwise change in order to do so?
[02:30] <psurani> how can i install kde on 5.10 ?
[02:30] <n37> i've got w2k3, ubuntu, mandriva and solaris in this machine :O
[02:30] <pm> there's a word 'fart' in Polish and it means........... luck :) There's a restaurant 'Fart' in Warsaw and many foreigners take photographs in front of it :P
[02:30] <gnomefreak> psurani, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <DewDude> yeah
[02:31] <DewDude> you know what fart is in english?
[02:31] <n37> pedo
[02:31] <SAM_theman> never mind found it
[02:31] <n37> in spanish :)
[02:31] <pm> yes, i know :)
[02:31] <DewDude> haha
[02:31] <DewDude> ok then
[02:31] <DewDude> you can see why we'd stand in front of it and take pictures
[02:31] <DewDude> farts are funny
[02:32] <DewDude> regardless of who you are
[02:32] <gnube> fart=prut in Swedish.
[02:32] <DewDude> everyone enjoys a good fart joke
[02:32] <deltron> lol
[02:32] <gnube> speed=fart in Swedish.
[02:32] <n37> n33d h4x0r h31p?? c411 m3h :)
[02:32] <pm> in polish fart is pierdziec
[02:32] <n37> in spanish fart >> pedo :O
[02:32] <DewDude> and yet fart is luck
[02:32] <DewDude> how'd you guys come up with that one?
[02:33] <Ng> #ubuntu-offtopic for fart talk too, this is for questions about #ubuntu
[02:33] <gnube> yeah, for real.
[02:33] <n37> !ubuntu
[02:33] <ubotu> well, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:33] <Absenth> is Breezy capible of connecting to a Wireless Access Point that's using WPA and TKIP?  If so can someone point me in the direction of what I need to do/add/or otherwise change in order to do so?
[02:33] <MoonRanger> would ubuntu run on lower end computers like P2 400s with 64meg RAM and 6.4gig hard drives..
[02:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Absenth about wireless
[02:33] <n37> yay moon
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> MoonRanger: more RAM and it would go
[02:33] <Ng> Absenth: there's a package called wpa_supplicant that may help
[02:33] <pm> ok, but maybe there's a distro called "fart". that would be interesting :)
[02:33] <Absenth> sorry to repeat myself, got squashed by fart noises.     thanks gnomefreak.
[02:34] <deltron> lol
[02:34] <Denstark> MoonRanger, I have it running on a P3 900 256 and it runs amazingly
[02:34] <psurani> With Breezy CD and Synaptic
[02:34] <psurani>    1.
[02:34] <psurani>       Open up Synaptic Package Manager
[02:34] <psurani>    2.
[02:34] <psurani>       Click on "Edit/Add CD-ROM"
[02:34] <psurani>    3.
[02:34] <Denstark> MoonRanger, I think it would run just fine on a computer like that
[02:34] <deltron> I have ubuntu running on my mac :)
[02:34] <psurani>       Click on "Edit/Mark All Upgrades"
[02:34] <psurani>    4.
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't flood
[02:34] <psurani>       Click on "Apply"
[02:34] <gnomefreak> im running it on a p2 450 with 512 ram
[02:34] <psurani> but after doing that, i cannt see apply button highlighted
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell psurani about paste
[02:34] <Ng> MoonRanger: 64mb of ram is probably too low to really be worth it - if you can stick more ram in though it'll be ok
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> MoonRanger: get 128mb of RAM in at least. 96 is not bearable
[02:35] <pm> Ubuntu 7.10 - Farting Turtle :)
[02:35] <n37> :))
[02:35] <k31th> anyone got  bacula working on ubuntu ?
[02:35] <n37> 64mb ram r k 4 ubuntu imo
[02:35] <MoonRanger> i just run a small computer recycling organization .. we take low end computers and donate them to people who cant afford them. most of the systems I donate are P2 400, 64meg RAM, and at least a 6.4gig HDD .. so think i will try ubuntu on one just to see
[02:36] <Ng> MoonRanger: you will probably want to use a desktop like XFCE instead of Gnome to save on RAM
[02:36] <MoonRanger> ok ..
[02:36] <n37> try them, they will run ok moon :))
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> MoonRanger: don't use 64meg RAM. i work for a small computer recycling org and we use 96mb RAM
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it's slow
[02:36] <gnube> MoonRanger, You can definitely get debian on that machine and maybe apt-get ubuntu
[02:36] <gnomefreak> MoonRanger,  more than likely X will lag its butt off
[02:36] <MoonRanger> ok .
[02:36] <gnube> But is 64meg enough to make a usable computer?
[02:37] <gnube> with a graphical interface?
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, but it's slow
[02:37] <muep> gnube: yes
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> whaterver you use
[02:37] <gnomefreak> never tried it
[02:37] <Absenth> gnomefreak, the instructions include building the IPW2200 driver, I assume by the date, and the fact my IPW2200 works on WEP I can skip to the part about the WPA_Supplicant?
[02:37] <muep> gnube: try damnsmalllinux
[02:37] <teroedni> gnube:Yes
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Absenth, i dont use wireless never have
[02:37] <kyncani> X will eat about 20 Mb RAM
[02:37] <gnube> muep; But will it have a GUI?
[02:38] <muep> gnube: yes
[02:38] <gnube> wow
[02:38] <gnomefreak> doesnt ubuntu recommend 126 ram?
[02:38] <muep> gnube: it's easy to use
[02:38] <Absenth> anyone else?   the instructions linked by ubotu include building the IPW2200 driver, I assume by the date, and the fact my IPW2200 works on WEP I can skip to the part about the WPA_Supplicant?
[02:38] <MoonRanger> whats XFCE
[02:38] <MoonRanger> and is it easy to install etc ..
[02:38] <gnomefreak> MoonRanger, sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop :)
[02:38] <teroedni> gnube:It is possible to run grapical on 4mb:D
[02:38] <Absenth> MoonRanger: The best Desktop manager ever imho....  on ubuntu sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <muep> gnube: I just ran damnsmall today on a box with 32 MB RAM and 200 MHz intel cpu
[02:38] <gnube> muep; I am not really interested in using it myself, someone else here wants to know if it is doable with ubuntu.
[02:38] <gnomefreak> opps
[02:38] <gnomefreak> install
[02:38] <kyncani> MoonRanger: as easy as installinge package xfce4
[02:39] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <gnube> muep, But I have heard some great things about damnsmalllinux.
[02:39] <muep> gnube: the same it doable on ubuntu but it takes more effort to do
[02:39] <muep> gnube: it takes only one cd to try it, as it's a livecd
[02:40] <gnube> ah, good point.
[02:40] <SAM_theman> guys..me and KDE have been going out for a while...
[02:40] <phanter> I now have: "username=USER,password=PASS,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777" in my fstab as options for a smb drive, but I still do not have any rights
[02:40] <phanter> what am I doing wrong?
[02:40] <SAM_theman> So i ask it will it marry me
[02:41] <SAM_theman> it says YEs
[02:41] <SAM_theman> just asking can u come to my wedding
[02:41] <MoonRanger> i do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and i get the following error  E: Invalid operation xubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol SAM_theman
[02:41] <SAM_theman> :D
[02:41] <gnube> phanter, Are you mounting a FAT32 or NTFS disk?
[02:41] <SAM_theman> Kde  3.5 kicks ass
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> MoonRanger: sure you did install?
[02:41] <DewDude> MoonRanger, it's ubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <DewDude> not xubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <DewDude> or did it change?
[02:42] <pm> kde 3.5 SUCKS!
[02:42] <smo> DewDude,they're different packages for different things.  I believe xubuntu is xfce-based
[02:42] <phanter> gn0me, actually... I think it is  Debian server that shares over the SMB protocol so my Windows friends can use it. I don't know, but I'll try to find out
[02:42] <DewDude> ahhhh
[02:42] <adrianoc> please, somebody help-me, i install LTSP, but in teminral say this: 192.168.0.1 not responding, still tryng
[02:42] <DewDude> ok
[02:42] <DewDude> sorry
[02:43] <pm> i switched back to kde 3.4.3, i'm dissappointed with 3.5
[02:43] <MoonRanger> yeah i copy and pasted the line
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> adrianoc: need more info
[02:43] <muep> gnube: if you still do it with ubuntu, I would recommend the use of fluxbox instead of xfce, as it is even lighter, but that is a matter of taste
[02:43] <gnube> phanter, Do find out because you need to know if you are exporting your debian machine or if you want to mount a windoes disk.
[02:43] <emanuelez> pm: what's wrong with 3.5?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> pm, whats wrong with 3.5?
[02:43] <phanter> it is a debian machine (but I do not have control over that machine)
[02:43] <SAM_theman> whats wrong with 3.5
[02:43] <SAM_theman> ?? i am on it
[02:43] <muep> pm: what's wrong with 3.5?
[02:43] <gnube> muep, Yeah, I am running debian right now and that is fine, it was someone else here who wanted to do it with ubuntu.
[02:43] <psurani> psurani@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <psurani> Reading package lists... Done
[02:43] <psurani> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:43] <psurani> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <psurani> pls help
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> you don't have main enabled
[02:44] <SAM_theman> its alsome
[02:44] <gnomefreak> psurani,  do you have universe repo enabled?
[02:44] <SAM_theman> every thing works
[02:44] <smo> So far, I've found choice of applications is more of a barrier than wm.  evolution is close to impossible on my 32Mb laptop, regardless of gnome vs twm
[02:44] <psurani> how ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> main yeah damn sorry
[02:44] <pm> too many quetsions :)
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell psurani about repositories
[02:44] <pm> in kde 3.5 kwin crashes every 10-15 minutes
[02:45] <SAM_theman> let me try it
[02:45] <Ng> smo: there are other email clients available in the repositories
[02:45] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: in the terminal it is repeating, "not responding, still tryng". This happens, when in lts.conf i leave USE_NFS_SWAP = Y
[02:45] <Ng> smo: typically there will be lightweight versions of most types of app
[02:45] <SAM_theman> kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace)
[02:45] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:
[02:45] <pm> besides there aren't any revolutionary changes compared to 3.4.3 :)
[02:45] <pm> correct me if i'm wrong
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> adrianoc: so your trying to use nfs for the swap partition, and the client cant see the computer you want to have the swap on
[02:46] <smo> Ng, I'm aware, I just don't think weighing up the various window managers is going to solve someone's problems on a lomem machine (altho I will take suggestions for a lightweight gui browser :)
[02:46] <muep> gnube: to me it seems that the biggest problem is that many essential GUI-apps , like firefox, are too heavy to run on old hardware
[02:46] <Ng> smo: fair enough :)
[02:46] <Ng> smo: links2 -g ;)
[02:46] <gnomefreak> links2 -g
[02:46] <gnube> muep, yep, apps are big these days.
[02:46] <MoonRanger> now how do i switch to xfce .. or do i have to logoff and relog back in
[02:47] <kyncani> MoonRanger: log off, look at the "session" button
[02:47] <gnomefreak> MoonRanger,  log out and log into xfce where it says sessions
[02:47] <MoonRanger> ok ..
[02:47] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: but it creates, see you: rw-------  1 root root 487424 2005-12-21 11:21 192.168.0.2.swap
[02:47] <No2117> Someday, there will be a news article called 'Google saved my life' Because indirectly, it has. (Being that GRUB is corrupt and my business work is on Ubuntu)
[02:48] <SAM_theman> ok wtf was that??
[02:48] <SAM_theman> kwin
[02:48] <pm> what is /opt folder for?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> google is being sued :(
[02:48] <DewDude> google knows everything
[02:48] <gnomefreak> for 5 mill.
[02:48] <adrianoc> in boot from the terminal, it say: createing swap until it arrive in 31%
[02:48] <kotton> newbie here, trying to install yahoo messenger and am just not getting it. running ubuntu. have read the forums and some links to installations but not working,
[02:48] <DewDude> why?
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> pm it used to be where you installed stuff you wanted
[02:49] <phanter> gnube, it is a ntfs disk I think. Do you know what I have to change in the fstab to get some rights?
[02:49] <SAM_theman> tell me guys tell if this looks sexy
[02:49] <SAM_theman> http://kde-look.org/content/pre1/28476-1.jpg
[02:49] <gnomefreak> something about ads
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> now it's not used, in favor of /usr/local
[02:49] <kyncani> google is associating with aol :|
[02:49] <DewDude> oooh, i can answer that phanter
[02:49] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: in boot from ther termina, it say: creating swap until it arrive in 31%
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> adrianoc: hm. i havent used it, so i don't know what should be happening
[02:50] <pm> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks :>
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:50] <tRSS> question: How can I disable X? I just don't want it to run at all
[02:50] <Nomikos> anyone quick pointers on how to have samba ask for and accept user/pass, so that i can mount shares as the owner?
[02:50] <DewDude> you should have defaults,umask=0222 for options
[02:50] <gnomefreak> companies pay google for each click on the ads and google was suposedly having invaled clicks or something like that
[02:50] <Nomikos> not getting this to work at *all* :-/
[02:50] <adrianoc> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, thanks
[02:50] <gnube> phanter, I do not think you can write to NTFS disks IIRC
[02:50] <DewDude> no
[02:51] <phanter> DewDude, Please shoot... I am kind of looking for it ;-)
[02:51] <DewDude> for writing ntfs discs...you can't
[02:51] <DewDude> you don't want to
[02:51] <DewDude> it's a BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD idea
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> tRSS: remove the symlinks from /etc/, but that's not healthy, there's a tool to do it
[02:51] <gnube> phanter, Yeah, you cannot write to NTFS disks
[02:51] <DewDude> make a vfat partition to move files and leave XP for maintaining the contents of NTFS drives
[02:51] <phanter> gnube, well, I actually already did it (I always do), but now I want to put that line in the fstab instead of copying it all the time into the console
[02:51] <knigge852> hallo
[02:52] <tRSS> Kamping_Kaiser: do you remember the tool?
[02:52] <gnube> phanter, are you sure it is a NTFS disk?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> tRSS: update-rc.d (just looked it up)
[02:52] <DewDude> ?
[02:52] <gnube> phanter, Or is it FAT32?
[02:52] <DewDude> you wrote to it?
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> `update-rc.d -r x `or similar
[02:52] <knigge852> are there german users?
[02:52] <tRSS> Kampin_Kaiser: Thanks man!
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> np mate
[02:52] <gnube> knigge852, try ubuntu-de
[02:52] <kotton> QUESTION: yahoo messenger
[02:53] <DewDude> ANSWER: GAIM
[02:53] <gnube> kotton, answerL GAIM
[02:53] <gnube> You beat DewDude
[02:53] <DewDude> ???
[02:53] <pm> is suse better than ubuntu?
[02:53] <DewDude> not by my clock
[02:53] <kotton> gaim doesn't appear to have sound/voice
[02:53] <knigge852> thanks gnube
[02:53] <phanter> gnube, well I just looked it up in a windows machine ()oI  just looked how it mounted itk!
[02:53] <gnube> You beat me DewDude is what <I meant to say
[02:53] <gnube> knigge852, No problem.
[02:53] <DewDude> heh, ok
[02:54] <gnube> phanter, Mounting and writing are different things.
[02:54] <kyncani> pm: from memory, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better".
[02:54] <kyncani> pm: or it's a troll
[02:54] <DewDude> heh, sweet...xchat logs seconds in time stamps
[02:55] <gnomefreak> not to mention we are kinda biased
[02:55] <phanter> I know. But I used to just mount it by hand and I did not have trouble riting to it back then. The problem jus occurs because I want the disk to be in the fstab
[02:55] <taojah> hello can someone explain to me how to open tar.gz files  please ??  i have no idea what to with them
[02:55] <pm> i mean is it more  stable, more polished ?
[02:55] <Ng> taojah: you can use Archive Manager from Applications->Accessories
[02:55] <gnube> taojah, do this:
[02:55] <gnomefreak> taojah,  you have to compile it
[02:55] <mjr> taojah, with file-roller (gui) or tar xzf file.tar.gz (cli)
[02:55] <DewDude> taojah: do you just want to decompress?
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> pm, it uses rpm (so it looses ;D)
[02:55] <DewDude> like...to build source code
[02:55] <taojah> yes
[02:55] <gnube> toajah, gunzip *.gz
[02:56] <taojah> its a help file
[02:56] <gnube> taojah, the tar xf *.tar
[02:56] <taojah> lol
[02:56] <pm> whyit looses? :>
[02:56] <taojah> what] 
[02:56] <taojah> ?
[02:56] <taojah> i have no idea
[02:56] <DewDude> tar -zxf generally will unzip most tarballs
[02:56] <taojah> do i right click and save it to my desktop
[02:56] <phanter> gnube, but what if it was fat32, how would I have to do it then?
[02:56] <taojah> then what
[02:56] <gnube> that is if it is in tgz format.
[02:56] <Ng> taojah: double click on it
[02:56] <taojah> tar.gz
[02:57] <Ng> taojah: it'll open it in the Archive Manager and you can extract it somewhere, or examine the files
[02:57] <DewDude> he said tar.gz
[02:57] <gnube> phanter, You would have to have the user in Windows be the same user in Linux (fstab)
[02:57] <DewDude> that's a gzipped tarball
[02:57] <DewDude> zxvf works
[02:57] <gnube> Yeah, but that is different from tar.gz
[02:57] <phanter> gnube, but all that is done... I think it is strange
[02:57] <Ng> gnube: tgz and tar.gz are identical
[02:58] <SAM_theman> this is a stupid question how do i install .deb files
[02:58] <taojah> DEwDude so i should save it to desktop and then zxvf in console?
[02:58] <Ng> SAM_theman: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:58] <gnube> I though foo.tar.gz had to be unzipped first?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> bz is the one thats different
[02:58] <gnube> My mistake.
[02:58] <DewDude> yeah
[02:58] <DewDude> save to your desktop
[02:58] <Ng> gnube: tar can handle gzip or bzip2'd files
[02:58] <gnube> Ng, I know but I tought only in tgz format.
[02:58] <taojah> ok
[02:58] <SAM_theman> thank U
[02:58] <DewDude> then go into console...type tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[02:58] <gnube> not in tar.gz format.
[02:58] <taojah> then what to i type in console ?
[02:58] <taojah> k
[02:59] <Ng> gnube: nope, they're the same :)
[02:59] <gnomefreak> !compile
[02:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:59] <gnube> taojah, gunzip foo.tar.gz
[02:59] <taojah> lol no
[02:59] <CarinArr> hey, i have a quick question.. i've installed the latest kernel, but for some reason it doesn't like the nvidia drivers, so i'm falling back on 2.6.12-9 atm.. i need to isntall the kernel headers for that, but they don't come up in synaptic, only the latest ones are there
[02:59] <taojah> im doing what deqwdude says
[02:59] <gnube> or rather; # tar zxvf package.tar.gz
[02:59] <taojah> heh
[02:59] <taojah> :p
[02:59] <DewDude> yeah, if you want to compile.... sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:59] <taojah> too many people saying diff things
[02:59] <CarinArr> so, how can i install the older kernel headers
[02:59] <gnomefreak> what program are you trying to install?
[03:00] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/473012
[03:00] <SAM_theman> help!!!
[03:00] <CarinArr> gnomefreak, me?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> who ever asked about the tar
[03:00] <CarinArr> oh
[03:00] <CarinArr> not me
[03:00] <CarinArr> ;)
[03:00] <phanter> is there anybody who knows hot to mount a smb disk so you have writing access?
[03:00] <chulin> helloooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuu
[03:01] <chulin> al fin dentro de ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:01] <Ng> phanter: there are uid and gid options you can specify for the mount so it mounts as owned by your user
[03:01] <sirex> is thera a gnome trick, that when I press on any window Alt+LeftMouseButton, then this window can be moved..
[03:01] <CarinArr> sirex, isn't that default behaviour?
[03:02] <chulin> alguien de Chile?????????
[03:02] <phanter> Ng, the dir_mode and folder_mode are both 0777 (= all rights for everybody)
[03:02] <sirex> CarinArr: duno, on my 5.04 ubuntu it is, and on other machine with 5.10 there is no this behaviour..
[03:02] <allison_1984> Can anyone tell me..how do I find out if my firewall is on on Ubuntu ? thanks
[03:02] <chulin> hi'
[03:03] <Ng> phanter: are you using cifs or smbfs as the filesystem type? the _mode ones are for cifs
[03:03] <chulin> alguien de CHILE CHILE CHILE??????????
[03:03] <_jason> allison_1984, you can see the rules that are set with 'sudo iptables -L'
[03:03] <chulin> ah, pelotas
[03:03] <Ng> chulin: this is an english speaking channel
[03:03] <_jason> !es
[03:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:03] <chulin> ok
[03:03] <chulin> dont worry
[03:04] <chulin> excuse me
[03:04] <chulin> bon your
[03:04] <tmabouma> hello
[03:04] <chulin> bulet tu chek a la yok de le messe
[03:04] <chulin> hello
[03:04] <chulin> gringolandia
[03:04] <chulin> ??
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Configuring sources...
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Moved to /tmp/kompile-tmp/kmetabar-0.2-beta2
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Configuring sources...
[03:04] <SAM_theman> /bin/sh configure
[03:04] <SAM_theman> /bin/sh: configure: No such file or directory
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Error during sources configuration. Installation aborted!
[03:05] <Ng> SAM_theman: please use a pastebin :)
[03:05] <phanter> Ng, I am using cifs (because somebody told me that was better). What do you think?
[03:05] <SAM_theman> Yes Sir,
[03:05] <chulin> eeeeeeee
[03:05] <chulin> bye
[03:05] <chulin> thanks!
[03:05] <allison_1984> jason# what output should I be getting then ?
[03:05] <lowman62> harrow woom :P```
[03:05] <tmabouma> je veux savoir comment instal
[03:05] <Ng> phanter: cifs is newer, and necessary if you're connecting to something like windows server 2003, but you probably still want to look at the uid and gid options
[03:06] <_newbie_> I have some problems open a file i have on a CD 'cause (K)ubuntu doesn't show the swedish letters in filename correctly, anyone who can help me out with this?
[03:06] <_jason> allison_1984, nothing, ubuntu has no services running by default.  A firewall is pointless on a default install of ubuntu
[03:07] <_jason> allison_1984, if you absolutely feel the need to set it up and don't want to use iptables commandline, firestart is a nice gui that is available in the repos.  But with no services running there really is no point.
[03:07] <_jason> allison_1984, 'firestarter' not 'firestart', it's in the repos
[03:07] <allison_1984> I did install firestart sometime ago
[03:08] <allison_1984> just wondering if it is activated
[03:08] <_jason> allison_1984, did you see a bunch of rules popup when you did 'sudo iptables -L'?
[03:08] <allison_1984> jason # yea
[03:08] <pm> is it really pointless?
[03:08] <_jason> allison_1984, then you are good to go
[03:09] <_jason> pm, if you have nothing listening on any ports then a firewall isn't going to do anything
[03:09] <allison_1984> jason # thing is I used aotumatix to get the firestart....and have now changed the source links......
[03:09] <_jason> allison_1984, source links?
[03:10] <allison_1984> I mean the update links.....websites
[03:10] <rosen> Hi guys, what program can I use to watch a movie that is compressed as a *.img file ?
[03:10] <rosen> (and how)
[03:11] <_jason> allison_1984, firestarter is just a gui frontend for iptables.  When you install it, it sets up some rules.  The actual firestarter application doesn't need to be running.  Iptables is the one blocking things, etc.  You can use the gui to edit the rules and then close it again but iptables will still be working.
[03:11] <mam0> hi to all
[03:11] <mam0> one info...
[03:11] <allison_1984> jason # alright.....thanks :)
[03:12] <mam0> how can I disable dhcp client on boot on ubuntu 5.10
[03:12] <mam0> I would like to call it on demand depending on which network I am connected to
[03:12] <pm> _jason, so it might be enough to run firestarter just once?
[03:13] <dooglus> mam0: edit /etc/network/interfaces and take out the "auto" line
[03:13] <rosen> heya dooglus
[03:13] <dooglus> pm: it's enough to never run it
[03:13] <dooglus> hi rosen.  how's things?
[03:13] <_jason> pm, you don't need to run it all if you haven't setup any services like ssh, etc.
[03:13] <rosen> dooglus, notice how I havent really asked questions as of late ? ;)
[03:13] <rosen> dooglus, all is fine and dandy :D
[03:13] <dooglus> rosen: you've not been here of late have you?
[03:14] <rosen> dooglus, oh yes I have ... just looking in and browsing through the advices to see if there was something worth trying out
[03:14] <dooglus> _jason: if you've set up a service like ssh, wouldn't that be because you wanted people to connect to the ssh port?  and if so, why would you then block that port with a firewall?
[03:14] <rosen> dooglus, like Xorg.. now that was a nice one to reconfigure !
[03:15] <karlan> i cant get my sound to work in VLC Media Player. It works in beep-media-player, so it has to be some option i have missed. someone?
[03:15] <_jason> dooglus, you may want to control who connects using the firewall?
[03:15] <dooglus> _jason: fair enough.
[03:16] <_jason> dooglus, to be honest I don't really know :), but if I see someone running a dictionary attack I just block him for a couple of hours
[03:17] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~/Borealis$ su -p
[03:17] <SAM_theman> Password:
[03:17] <SAM_theman> su: Authentication failure
[03:17] <SAM_theman> Sorry.
[03:17] <SAM_theman> ?
[03:17] <SAM_theman> !tell kompile
[03:18] <SAM_theman> !tell su -p
[03:18] <rosen> so :) Is there any way to see a *.img movie before it's burned ? ... would like to check out the quality before I decide to waste a dvd on it ;)
[03:19] <dooglus> rosen: did you try "mplayer <file.img>" ?
[03:19] <raphink> or mount -o
[03:19] <gnomefreak> anyone know of an email that can accept .exe files?
[03:19] <rosen> dooglus, still waiting for it to extract but I seem to remember it giving me a hard time last time I tried
[03:20] <dooglus> rosen: I know mplayer plays .bin files (as in nero's cue/bin format)
[03:20] <dooglus> rosen: and I think it plays .img too - but I might be wrong
[03:20] <rosen> dooglus, oh, it may have been Xine I tried with last time I'm not sure
[03:21] <psurani> exit
[03:21] <psurani> quit
[03:23] <Okron1k> hey there
[03:23] <Okron1k> i am in need of some assistance
[03:24] <Okron1k> it's probably something very simple... but i'm not sure myself.
[03:25] <Okron1k> i am trying linux for the first time... and i downloaded the live cd of ubuntu... everything goes fine up until where it's loading.. then at some point my monitor says it can't display this mode
[03:25] <Okron1k> if you'd like i can get the exact messege and approximately when it happens
[03:25] <gnube> Okron1k, hmm. Do you have an older monitor?
[03:25] <Okron1k> no.. it's a brand new dell 2405fpw
[03:26] <gnube> Okron1k, Sounds like an X issue. . .
[03:26] <gnube> Okron1k, Is it a laptop?
[03:26] <Okron1k> during the boot i choose english, and the country and the keyboard... and after that at some point it gives me that messege
[03:26] <Okron1k> no sir.
[03:27] <Okron1k> i'm guessing it has something to do with my ati 9600xt... but i'm not sure.
[03:27] <Okron1k> which is why i am here now.
[03:28] <Okron1k> currently i'm on my mac mini... on the same monitor... i am using the live cd on my pc.
[03:28] <gnube> Okron1k, what the heck is yourr ati blah blah
[03:29] <Okron1k> that's my video card
[03:29] <mp3guy> is there any program i can get to convert binary to text?
[03:29] <gnube> mp3guy, You can try od
[03:30] <cold> How do you reconfigure X on ubuntu?
[03:30] <Okron1k> any ideas gnube?
[03:30] <gnube> Okron1k, It may be your video card. Can you set the resolution on you video card?
[03:30] <gnube> Cold, which X are you using. Xorg or Xfree86?
[03:30] <Okron1k> i'm not sure... how would i go about trying. again i am brand new to linux
[03:30] <cold> xorg
[03:31] <mp3guy> gnube, od what?
[03:31] <Okron1k> another bit of information... after the screen goes out i do hear the ubuntu start up sound
[03:31] <Okron1k> but i just lose my visual
[03:31] <gnube> Okron1k, The thing is, I am not really sure what the issue is. I imagine that X has set the window resolution to be a certain size and your monitor does not support that.
[03:31] <cold> gnube I am using Xorg
[03:32] <gnube> Okron1k, Now you can adjust the monitor somehow, that would be the best way.
[03:32] <Okron1k> ok that definitely sounds like a possibility.
[03:32] <gnube> mp3guy, od
[03:32] <Okron1k> is there a command i can type to do so?
[03:32] <gnube> like this od -c your file
[03:32] <darker-shadow> hello everybody, i got a problem
[03:32] <mp3guy> gnube, what is od? two letters is hard to work from
[03:33] <darker-shadow> i can't access root
[03:33] <mp3guy> gnube, oh got you
[03:33] <gnube> mp3guy, cut and paste this command: # od -c file
[03:33] <gnube> replace the word file with your file's name.
[03:33] <_jason> darker-shadow, do you know about sudo and root in ubuntu?
[03:33] <darker-shadow> when am try this code line:"su root"
[03:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell darker-shadow about sudo
[03:34] <gnube> Ubunut has changed the UNIX way by not including a root password in their distro.
[03:34] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I recently installed Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 in an old laptop (Pentium II 233MHz) and I have an RT2500 802.11g PCMCIA wireless card plugged in. I wish I could install kernel modules to activate my card... How can I do that?
[03:34] <mp3guy> gnube, that printed out a load of the binary
[03:34] <darker-shadow> the pass wowrd of my user don't work on root, buit if i want to use sudo it's work
[03:34] <gnube> HighHopes, You need to make sure there is a drive for your card for linux.
[03:34] <Ng> darker-shadow: that's correct, by default the root user is disabled
[03:35] <Ng> darker-shadow: you can use sudo su though
[03:35] <darker-shadow> but run as root can't
[03:35] <gnube> mp3guy, That is octal you are looking at and some text.
[03:35] <HighHopes> gnube: yes, I know there is a driver because I used this card on Kanotix and Knoppix
[03:35] <mp3guy> gnube, yes, so how can i convert it to text?
[03:35] <gnube> HighHopes, Great, did you download the drive?
[03:35] <srborlongan> Uh, kumusta po?
[03:35] <srborlongan> Ignore me.
[03:35] <gnube> mp3guy, Did you use the -c switch?
[03:35] <mp3guy> yup
[03:36] <ice9> does anyone have chroot in here
[03:36] <gnube> mp3guy, DId you scroll through your entire file?
[03:36] <darker-shadow> _jason but he don't approve the pass word
[03:36] <gnube> and there was not text.
[03:36] <ice9> I need help with the /etc/fstab
[03:36] <darker-shadow> password*
[03:36] <HighHopes> gnube: nop... I have no network in that computer. For that I want to install that card... I wish I could get driver from Ubuntu CD... Is that possible?
[03:36] <gnube> darker-shadow, If you want to enable the root accoundxt do this;
[03:36] <_jason> darker-shadow, who doesn't?  try: 'sudo echo hi' and use your user password
[03:36] <gnube> # sudo passwd root
[03:36] <mp3guy> gnube, there was, but there was also aload of numbers and \'s
[03:36] <_jason> gnube, please explain sudo before suggesting that
[03:37] <gnube> enter your password and then type a new password for root.
[03:37] <_jason> gnube, there is a reason it's disabled
 # sudo passwd root
[03:37] <gnube> yep
[03:37] <darker-shadow> what this code line do?
[03:37] <gnube> People want me to tell you that you can trash your machine if you are not careful.
[03:37] <darker-shadow> change the root password?
[03:37] <gnube> But I presume you are an adult.
[03:37] <_jason> darker-shadow, read the page ubotu sent you then come back
[03:38] <gnube> _jason, Why won't you tell him how to do what he wants to do?
[03:38] <gnube> It is his computer.
[03:38] <_jason> gnube, i did
[03:38] <_jason> gnube, it's on that page
[03:38] <_jason> gnube, at least he can be a little informed before blindly pasting some command if he reads it
[03:39] <gnube> I presumed since he wanted to use the root account he was a little informed.
[03:39] <gnube> Why won't he use sudo?
[03:39] <aqua> hey everybody
[03:39] <darker-shadow> entering the link
[03:40] <_jason> gnube, he probably didn't know about it yet, that's why I think it's best to ask people to read that page
[03:40] <HighHopes> gnube: oh! sorry... Ubuntu detected my card! :-) Great! I saw that doing a "iwconfig"... I see "ra0".. Now I need to know how to configure ESSID, and those things to connect to my Access Point
[03:40] <aqua> i have a cd here ..trying to mount it... with the following command: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0
[03:40] <gnube> _jason, I am abivalent about that frankly.
[03:40] <aqua> and i'm getting the error mount: No medium found
[03:40] <lowman62> i don't get why someone would want to be logged in as root. I would think that would be a perfect way to break something on accident :P```
[03:40] <trappist> aqua: what kind of cd?
[03:40] <aqua> i just burned it with k3b
[03:40] <aqua> data cd
[03:41] <aqua> it has a avi movie on it
[03:41] <trappist> lowman62: it's not much harder to break stuff by accident with sudo
[03:41] <aqua> tried it on widows...works ok..
[03:41] <gnube> aqua, is cdrom in your fstab file?
[03:41] <Okron1k> how do i change the resolution before boot?
[03:41] <aqua> yes it is
[03:41] <phanter>  I now have: //10.0.0.4/aegee  /home/patrick/Wolga  cifs  users,rw,username=USER,password=PASS,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0; but still no rights
[03:41] <aqua> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:41] <aqua> thats from fstab
[03:41] <gnube> aqua, then try mount /media/cdrom0
[03:41] <ice9> if someone has chroot
[03:42] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[03:42] <ice9> can I pls see there /etc/fsab
[03:42] <lowman62> trappist that is true...but it is just that small bit more that makes it even more capable of breaking something...like the human condition of forgetting :P```
[03:42] <aqua> gnube: ok, still get mount: No medium found
[03:42] <Ng> trappist: the difference being that if you have to do something with sudo you have more opportunity to spot your impending mistake
[03:42] <trappist> phanter: you don't need that stuff.  use uid=1000,umask=0
[03:42] <trappist> *shrug*
[03:42] <lira> are there any ppc/mac specialist around
[03:42] <lowman62> thank-you Ng ..I was looking for a short version LOL :P``
[03:42] <gnube> aqua, You are trying you read a DVD on a CDROM drive?
[03:43] <gnube> lira, Only for a short while, soon Mac will be Intel.
[03:43] <aqua> no, it is a cd that I just burned on this computer just 10 minutes ago
[03:43] <_newbie_> I have some problems open a file i have on a CD 'cause (K)ubuntu doesn't show the swedish letters in the filename correctly, anyone who can help me out with this?
[03:43] <gnube> aqua, Gotcha, that just sounds like a format error that I have ssen before.
[03:43] <jdub> dudes
[03:43] <jdub> new fridge poll
[03:44] <jdub> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/196
[03:44] <jdub> "where do you want us to go today?"
[03:44] <jdub> ;-)
[03:44] <lowman62> mac is going to pack intell inside???
[03:44] <aqua> gnube: ok....could you tell me how to get everything ok?
[03:44] <gnube> lowman62, Hello, where have you been?
[03:44] <lira> I know. but the boss took an old i-mac rev B out of the storage and he said - make it work or else... -
[03:44] <lowman62> on the darkside of the moon...where i live why?
[03:44] <gnube> lira, DId you install the PPC version of Ubuntu on it?
[03:44] <apokryphos> jdub: europe is gonna win hands-down
[03:45] <lira> I am planning to install ubuntu there once it is alive
[03:45] <gnube> lowman62, Just curious. I was only kidding with you. Yep, the Mac is moving to Intel, will be otu in 06.
[03:45] <lira> right now the computer seems to be dead
[03:45] <lowman62> <--is never afraid to ask the BIG STUPID questions :P``
[03:45] <gnube> aqua, That is the hard part. What are you using to read the fiell?
[03:45] <gnube> s/fiell/file/
[03:46] <lowman62> gnube: I have a sense of humor and I never take things to heart...am too lazy ZzzzZZZzzz :P```
[03:46] <darker-shadow> i readed that and now i have a few queastion
[03:46] <gnube> lira, after you plugged it in and turned it on, did you hear the chime?
[03:46] <darker-shadow> when i using this code line:
[03:46] <aqua> gnube: sorry, didn't get you. what do you mean what am I using to read it? i can't even mount it let alone read it
[03:46] <lira> no chime or video signal
[03:47] <rosen> hmm to mount an *.img to media/cdrom wouldnt this be the commandline ? sudo mount -t iso9660 filename.img /media/cdrom0
[03:47] <darker-shadow> "sudo -s" it's run the shell of root, what it's meen?
[03:47] <gnube> aqua, It may have been automatically mounted on the desktop, if not let me see what I can google.
[03:47] <Kaiser_Sleeps> rosen: add -o loop
[03:47] <gnube> lira, I am sorry for your loss.
[03:47] <aqua> nope, it wasn't mounted automatically to my surprise
[03:47] <darker-shadow> run as root or only the shell
[03:47] <rosen> Kaiser_Sleeps, so sudo mount -t -o iso9660 filename.img /media/cdrom0
[03:47] <darker-shadow> ??
[03:48] <gnube> darker-shadow, That means you will enter a root shell. A shell is what passes commands to the kernel.
[03:48] <trappist> rosen: forgot loop
[03:48] <rosen> aah lol ok I think I understand now ;P
[03:48] <ice9> what does the file /etc/fstab look like when chroot
[03:48] <lira> well, I am thinking it is a battery issue. this old green warrior was sleeping for years
[03:48] <gnube> darker-shadow, If you enter a root shell you have complete control over the machine.
[03:48] <darker-shadow> so it's not code line that i need
[03:49] <gnube> darker-shadow, If you make a mistake and enter a command that erases your hard disk then all of your data is gone forever.
[03:49] <gnube> UNIX is powerful.
[03:49] <darker-shadow> so i need this code line "sudo passwd root"
[03:49] <the_mr_bong_show> could some one help me i am trying to edit my mplayer.conf so the video can get biger but i cant seem to edit it i open it and i try to erease the zoom no to a zoom yes but i cant
[03:49] <phanter> users,rw,username=aegee,password=10kiss4u,uid=1000,umask=0 0 0, should this work
[03:49] <gnube> darker-shadow, Why do you want to be root?
[03:49] <trappist> the_mr_bong_show: try it in your ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf
[03:50] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: what are you editing it with?
[03:50] <the_mr_bong_show> text edito
[03:50] <the_mr_bong_show> editor
[03:50] <darker-shadow> i have a problem install the script that allow the ubuntu connect the intrnet
[03:50] <phanter> trappist, I know have: users,rw,username=aegee,password=10kiss4u,uid=1000,umask=0 0 0, should thisawork or did I change the wrong thing?
[03:51] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: are you editing your local copy or the install dir copy?
[03:51] <Okron1k> gnube... i got a visua by change graphics from ati to vesa
[03:51] <trappist> phanter: that should work, but now we all know your username and password
[03:51] <gnube> Okron1k, w00t! That is good news.
[03:51] <darker-shadow> but with this lie of the "sudo passwd root" i don't the root password
[03:51] <the_mr_bong_show> the one thats in my ect folder
[03:51] <the_mr_bong_show> etc
[03:51] <lira> right now the company partially migrating to Ubuntu and the ubuntu for ppc was the chance to make that old mac alive again
[03:51] <darker-shadow> Enter your existing password
[03:51] <darker-shadow> Enter password for root
[03:51] <darker-shadow> Confirm password for root
[03:51] <aqua> gnube: any luck on the cause of this strange (for me) issue???
[03:51] <gnube> darker-shadow, yep, there it is!
[03:52] <darker-shadow> *Enter password for root i don't have root password
[03:52] <trappist> phanter: make a file with two lines, one that says username=whatever and another that says password=whatever, and in fstab instead of putting your username/password, say credentials=/path/to/that/file
[03:52] <lowman62> mr_the: try editing the one in your /home/yourprofile
[03:52] <phanter> trappist, stupid, me, but it is not accessable from inet... i don't care anyway :)... the problem is that it still does not work!
[03:52] <darker-shadow> that is the problem
[03:52] <trappist> phanter: define 'does not work'
[03:52] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: try editing the one in your /home/yourprofile
[03:52] <Okron1k> yes very good news :)
[03:53] <lira> cya guys
[03:53] <phanter> trappist, I still do not have any ritghts in that mount... no read or write rights
[03:53] <gnube> aqua, look at this
[03:53] <Okron1k> i will play with it some more
[03:53] <gnube> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p10.htm
[03:53] <olicat> any idea if this tv device will work under linux, folks? http://www.johnlewis.com/Computing/Accessories/Peripherals/Computer+Cards/230153877/Product.aspx
[03:53] <the_mr_bong_show> its not there
[03:53] <trappist> phanter: did you umount and remount the filesystem?  also, while it's umounted, change the ownership of the directory to you
[03:53] <gnube> darker-shadow, First of all, you create the password right then, second, I doubt this will help you.
[03:54] <gnube> darker-shadow, How will being root help you connect to the internet?
[03:54] <trappist> olicat: most hauppauge wintv cards work in linux, but afaik not the usb ones
[03:54] <olicat> trappist, damn
[03:54] <gnube> You should be able to run the same script as sudo.
[03:54] <olicat> it's for a laptop
[03:54] <ice9> need help with chroot /etc/fstab file ?
[03:54] <olicat> if i put this one in my desktop: http://www.johnlewis.com/Computing/Accessories/Peripherals/Computer+Cards/230153886/Product.aspx
[03:54] <olicat> can i watch tv somehow with mylaptop over the network?
[03:55] <ice9> yes
[03:55] <ice9> iptv
[03:55] <ice9> mythtv
[03:55] <phanter> trappist, the dir has rights for everybody. In the mounting something goes wrong..I think
[03:55] <ice9> do a search
[03:55] <olicat> ice9, will do
[03:55] <aeon17x> !w32codecs
[03:55] <ice9> does anyone have chroot here
[03:55] <darker-shadow> gnube run as root allow me run and installed the script that allow the ubuntu to connect to the internet. with my user he can't write in some areas
[03:55] <olicat> any ideas if this device works though? i don't want to buy it and have a headache later :)
[03:56] <olicat> http://www.johnlewis.com/Computing/Accessories/Peripherals/Computer+Cards/230153886/Product.aspx
[03:56] <gnube> ice9, I would help you but I do not have that much experience with chroot. I think the path names are relative to the chrooted dir.
[03:56] <darker-shadow> on the partitions
[03:56] <darker-shadow> "/HOME"
[03:56] <Davey> who the hell buys network cards from John Lewis?
[03:56] <trappist> phanter: is your user uid 1000?
[03:56] <Davey> towels - sure; NICs, no.
[03:56] <ice9> yeah my /etc/fstab file is all screwed up
[03:56] <gnube> darker-shadow, Your user can write if you do the command "sudo" before the writing.
[03:57] <phanter> trappist, I want it to be readable for every user
[03:57] <gnube> darker-shadow, Like this: # sudo mkdir /HOME/directory
[03:58] <Hal9000> i have a tv tuner, the appropriate module gets loaded, but i need to pass an additional parameter to the module... where can i set this?
[03:59] <darker-shadow> but it's she existing
[03:59] <gnube> Hal9000, It depends on how you are running the module.
[03:59] <gnube> darker-shadow, What do you mean?
[03:59] <the_mr_bong_show> why cant i edit my conf with text editor
[03:59] <darker-shadow> he does can't write/create some folder/files
[03:59] <gnube> the_mr_bong_show, You may need to have write permissions
[03:59] <aeon17x> the_mr_bong_show: you're supposed to do it with root powers.
[04:00] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i get root powers
[04:00] <gnube> darker-shadow, Yes, that is right, not every user can write to every location.
[04:00] <nalioth> mr_lampe: you can edit with a text editor
[04:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell the_mr_bong_show about sudo
[04:00] <darker-shadow> when am run script as this" ./install ******
[04:00] <SAM_theman> is there a automatic startupprogramfor KDE ?
[04:00] <gnube> darker-shadow, But when they are in a directory that they cannot write to, they can use "sudo" and then they can write there.
[04:01] <gnube> darker-shadow, Do this instead: sudo ./install ******
[04:01] <darker-shadow> he can't create/write to some area, that is my main problem
[04:02] <gnube> darker-shadow, You can write EVERYWHERE with sudo.
[04:03] <darker-shadow> ok thanks
[04:03] <Hal9000> gnube: i don't know, ubuntu detects the hardware and loads the module automatically, it works but i get no audio... and have read i need to pass oss=1 to the module
[04:03] <gnube> darker-shadow, Good luck.
[04:04] <gnube> Hal9000, That is a bit vague for me. Are there no error messages? Does this tool have a log file somehwere?
[04:04] <gnube> Hal9000, Where are you loading the module? In the kernel?
[04:05] <gnube> If so there are kernel logs in /var/log/syslog
[04:05] <aqua> gnube: all of that sounds great but it didn't help me with my initial problem....that the cd that i just burned in k3b with an avi file ubuntu can't mount (and i know that the burning process was successful because i was able to access the file in windows on the same pc)
[04:05] <gnube> opps. Under ubuntu it is kern.log.
[04:05] <gnube> aqua, And the file is a CD?
[04:05] <gnube> That is to say you know the format of the file?
[04:06] <gnube>  And if so what is the format? A giant mp3?
[04:06] <aqua> gnube, the file is on the cd
[04:06] <Hal9000> gnube: i have no clue, it is already loaded when i boot the system... im using the default kernel... i didnt configure anything
[04:06] <gnube> is it an iso file? tar file?
[04:07] <gnube> Hal9000, First check the physical sources of volume control, like on the task bar and on the applications interface itself.
[04:07] <gnube> If you still get nothing you might want to ask in the Ubuntu forums.
[04:08] <SAM_theman> weres the command to chane the KDE look to mac
[04:08] <gnube> Hal9000, Specify some more information as well, like the name of the application, the type of file, which version of ubuntu you are using, anything useful.
[04:08] <gnube> SAM_theman, I suspect you mean change the destop theme?
[04:09] <SAM_theman> yes
[04:09] <bachstudies> hi everyone. I am having issues with two anti-virus programs (ClamAV and Bitdefender) and have searched google and program websites for info but no luck. Firstly, ClamAV is insistent that I have 0.87 and not 0.87.1 that I actually have installed and secondly whenever I try to update bitdefender by using 'sudo bdc -update' i always get a md5 check failed error on a random updated file. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <Hal9000> gnube: ubuntu 5.10, kernel 2.6.15 from dapper (my tv card is not supported in breezy's 2.6.12), Asus MyCinema P-7133 dual tv card, SB audigy 2 zs audio card, sa7134 module gets loaded, i use tvtime application, see image but no sound... volume in tvtime is up to 100, unmuted, audio card works too...
[04:09] <eroger> Does anyone have an HP/Compaq with the media slots on the side, and manage to get their PCMCIA card slot working?
[04:09] <ice9> sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf
[04:09] <ice9> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:09] <ice9> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:09] <ice9> (gedit:12765): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:09] <gnube> SAM_theman, Go to Computer -> Desktop Preferences -> Theme
[04:10] <ice9> I get this error when trying to access gedit
[04:10] <ice9> is something not installed maybe
[04:10] <gnube> ice9, That is not fstab, that is X windows complainging.
[04:10] <mcphail> Hal9000: you can pass parameters to a module with the modprobe command
[04:10] <SAM_theman> i am in KDE
[04:10] <rikai> i jsu tupdated an ubuntu install, is there any way to set the password for the remote desktop via an ssh terminal?
[04:10] <ice9> yeah I know its xwindows
[04:10] <eroger> rikal, if you can ssh to the other machine, just use passwd
[04:11] <ice9>  does someting need to be installed then
[04:11] <rikai> *just updated
[04:11] <gnube> Hal9000, That sounds awesome, I am certain someone will help. But you are using a late version of Ubunut, did you think of using somethign with more testing?
[04:11] <gnube> like warty?
[04:11] <trappist> Hal9000: you'll probably need to check out the driver docs, forums etc. for your tuner card driver
[04:11] <rikai> eroger, remote desktop allws you to set a custom password
[04:12] <eroger> oh, ok. I'm still getting used to things, so that was a guess. sorry
[04:12] <rikai> eroger, no prob, thanks for trying, anyway. ;)
[04:12] <SAM_theman> brb
[04:12] <Hal9000> gnube: i tried the dapper distro yesterday, but had the same problem...
[04:13] <jhenn> If I'm doing internet connection sharing as described in the forums, how do I turn on dhcp to make it easier?
[04:13] <gnube> Hal9000, That is the thing, it is a really late version, probably untested. Use an older version that might be more stable with more drivers.
[04:13] <gnube> like HOary
[04:13] <gnube> or breezy
[04:13] <gnube> Dapper is still in testing if I am not mistaken.
[04:14] <Hal9000> gnube: i am using breezy dude :) just the 2.6.15 kernel, as the 2.6.12 doesnt support my tv card
[04:14] <gnube> Hal9000, Sorry!
[04:14] <gnube> Hal9000, My bad.
[04:14] <hmpedersen> Hey
[04:14] <jhenn> How do I turn on a dchp server on my ubuntu laptop?
[04:15] <Skies> I have many sound cards but how I can "bind" all sound to use the audigy card for output? (or something like that)
[04:15] <kj> oooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooo
[04:15] <kj> lllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooolllllllllllllllllllloooloololololoooo
[04:15] <_jason> lol that was pathetic
[04:15] <hmpedersen> Is there a way to shrink a partition in ubuntu? I want to try something out before i return this netcard..
[04:15] <rikai> indeed.
[04:16] <Skies> I have many sound cards but how I can "bind" all sound to use the audigy card for output? (or something like that)
[04:16] <rikai> lol, that didnt even fill up 1/8th of my screen ;)
[04:16] <shinu> im mounting my ext3 partition with options: auto,rw,user,users,exec. what else do i need for it to be rw for a normal user?
[04:16] <rikai> hmpedersen, i think you can do it with gparted.
[04:16] <hmpedersen> gparted.. never heard of it..
[04:16] <rikai> hmpedersen, sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:16] <KiaN> hi
[04:16] <Skies> hi
[04:17] <rikai> hmpedersen, and then: applications > system tools > GPartEd
[04:17] <KiaN> oooops wrong channel
[04:17] <hmpedersen> thanx rikai..
[04:17] <mcphail> shinu: your partition should be writable as it stands
[04:17] <Discipulus> is the new Firefox in Breezy yet?
[04:17] <_jason> Discipulus, no
[04:17] <Skies> :(
[04:17] <Discipulus> well why not?
[04:17] <shinu> mcphail: it isnt, i tried to copy a directory to it but it says : mv: cannot create directory ... : Permission denied
[04:18] <trappist> Discipulus: we don't usually put new versions of packages into stable releases.  just security updates and bugfixes.
[04:18] <mcphail> shinu: that isn't the partition's problem. You need to set permissions in the root directory
[04:18] <Skies> I installed firefox 1.5 in another folder on desktop :D
[04:18] <shinu> mcphail: oh, chmod?
[04:18] <mcphail> shinu: yes
[04:19] <_jason> Discipulus, here read all about the backport: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[04:19] <shinu> mcphail: okies okies, first time im using an ext3 as a files partition so.. ^^' thanks a lot
[04:19] <Skies> ok
[04:19] <rikai> hmpedersen, yeah, jsut right click what you want to edit the size of, unmount it, and right click, and select "resize/move"
[04:19] <rikai> hmpedersen, ;)
[04:19] <mcphail> shinu: to be on the safe side, create a subdirectory instead and change the permissions on that
[04:19] <bachstudies> can anyone help me with my anti-virus problem?
[04:19] <hmpedersen> rikai, i cant resize anything.. I can only examine and unmount..
[04:20] <_jason> bachstudies, install linux.  done.  :)
[04:20] <shinu> mcphail: why?.. i want to use the whole partition..
[04:20] <rikai> hmpedersen, you have to unmount what you're going to resize.
[04:20] <hmpedersen> rikai, then the problem is this.. The partition is /
[04:20] <rikai> hmpedersen, see my above comment.
[04:20] <bachstudies> _jason, very funny i have and i'm just waiting for a reply to my earlier message regarding bitdefender which everyone seems to be ignoring!
[04:21] <rikai> hmpedersen, don't know how to go about that, have you tried searching the forums?
[04:21] <hmpedersen> I let ubuntu take over the disc.. Only / and swap..
[04:21] <mcphail> shinu: it makes it more difficult to accidently delete the whole file structure!
[04:21] <_jason> bachstudies, no one is ignoring you.  We just don't know the answer.  Try again later when different people are on.
[04:21] <teleyinex> hi
[04:21] <wozja> hi
[04:21] <teleyinex> how can I make that breezy when mounts my usb memory mount it in sync mode?
[04:22] <bachstudies> _jason, thanks for the advice
[04:22] <shinu> mcphail: would it be the same if i change everything in it to a+rw and make the dir itself ro?
[04:22] <teleyinex> I want this, because when you umount it from desktop you see that the icon disappears automagically, and the truth is that linux is writing the info
[04:22] <hmpedersen> ofcourse.. i take it the live ubuntu could work..
[04:24] <hmpedersen> This is a longshot.. I think i can be pretty sure, windows still wont work on this laptop.. But if it will, i can prove to the shop, that the netcard is not working..
[04:24] <mcphail> shinu: that would do the same thing, i think
[04:25] <shinu> mcphail: ok then, ill do that, thanks :)
[04:26] <johnl> hey guys, mark shuttleworth hit the latest eler strip: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/clique
[04:28] <_jason> ha that's funny johnl
[04:28] <trappist> yes, yes it is.
[04:29] <johnl> :)
[04:31] <myke> hello
[04:32] <myke> what app will rip cds into mp3?
[04:32] <trappist> I use abcde or grip
[04:33] <the_mr_bong_show> GRRRR all i want to do it to open my mplayer.conf and edit the zoom no to a zoom yes how do i do that
[04:33] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[04:33] <trappist> the_mr_bong_show: vi ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf
[04:34] <shinu> why am i.. 'missing' over 1.5 gb on my 27 gb ext3 partition?
[04:34] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[04:34] <hmpedersen> okay.. I have ubuntu installed.. If i install xp on a seperate partition, i will loose my current bootloader, right?
[04:34] <shinu> i just made it and mkfs.ext3'd it yesterday
[04:34] <trappist> shinu: filesystem overhead
[04:34] <_jason> trappist, does mplayer use that file as well?  I have just 'config' in my ~/.mplayer directory
[04:34] <mcphail> shinu: define gb
[04:34] <Allan> Hello People in ubutu chat room.
[04:35] <trappist> shinu: either that or you're measuring the size of the drive in 1000000000 byte gigabytes
[04:35] <trappist> _jason: that's odd.  let me check to be sure.
[04:35] <hmpedersen> I will reboot now.. May the penguin be with you all..
[04:35] <trappist> _jason: no, you're right, it should be config
[04:35] <shinu> trappist mcphail /dev/hda7 27G  1.5G   24G <- df -h output, thats what im counting with
[04:36] <trappist> shinu: ah, then that's filesystem overhead.  probably reserved inodes.
[04:36] <Allan> When I open synaptic package manager, it asks for my password. I type it in, and the box closes. Nothing happens. How do I access my packages?
[04:37] <trappist> Allan: try 'sudo synaptic'
[04:37] <mcphail> shinu: you can choose to use less inodes if you wish
[04:37] <Allan> ok
[04:37] <shinu> trappist: ok i see, cause it was quite a lot so i was a bit worried. do you recommend any other fs for a specifically files-only partition?
[04:37] <Allan> it doesn't give any errors, but it just returns to the prompt
[04:38] <shinu> mcphail: and why is it using more by default?
[04:38] <trappist> shinu: I use reiserfs, but you're going to have fs overhead with any filesystem
[04:38] <_jason> Allan, sudo -K and try again
[04:38] <trappist> shinu: I think the default is 5%
[04:38] <shinu> trappist: yeah i noticed that after the mkfs output
[04:39] <trappist> shinu: though there will be less waste on a reiserfs partition
[04:39] <Allan> _jason: it just says something about improper usage. I was supposed to type "sudo -K synaptic", right?
[04:39] <shinu> trappist: cause i used to have a fat32 partition and didnt notice anything with that...
[04:39] <_jason> Allan, no, jsut 'sudo -K'
[04:39] <Allan> did that
[04:39] <_jason> Allan, then try 'sudo synaptic'
[04:39] <mcphail> shinu: i'd stick to the defaults
[04:39] <Allan> same thing
[04:40] <Allan> nothing
[04:40] <_jason> Allan, no errors?
[04:40] <shinu> mcphail: ok then, 1.5gb is not so much a loss :P
[04:40] <Allan> no errors
[04:40] <_jason> Allan, can you sudo other stuff?
[04:40] <shinu> mcphail trappist : is xfs any good?
[04:40] <Allan> yes
[04:40] <trappist> shinu: it's great.  I don't use it because it's huge in terms of code and grub seems to hate it.
[04:40] <nox-Hand> What is the delete command in terminal?
[04:40] <Allan> Synaptic does the same thing from the System menu
[04:40] <trappist> nox-Hand: rm
[04:41] <the_mr_bong_show> can mplayer play wmv formats
[04:41] <Allan> or rmdir
[04:41] <shinu> trappist: ok ill stick to ext3 then, thanks :)
[04:41] <gnube> nox-Hand, rm -rf foo
[04:41] <alamba> Hi, can anyone let me know the name of any PPoE client for ubuntu 5.10?
[04:41] <Allan> what's PPOe?
[04:41] <Allan> PPoE
[04:41] <gnube> point to point over ethernet
[04:41] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, install w32codecs
[04:41] <Allan> whatever that means
[04:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell the_mr_bong_show about w32codecs
[04:42] <rikai> hm, okay, for an athlon 64... with ubuntu, at this point, would you guys reccomend i install the i386 release, or the amd64 release?
[04:42] <gnube> alamba, try apt-cache ppoe
[04:42] <nox-Hand> Cheers
[04:42] <Allan> amd64
[04:42] <_jason> Allan, try sudo gnome-app-install
[04:42] <alamba> thanks
[04:42] <Allan> nothing happens
[04:42] <gnube> sorry, apt-cache search ppoe
[04:42] <Allan> goes back to prompt
[04:42] <rikai> Allan, even considering the problems with flash and java and such?
[04:42] <XiCillin> does anyones ubuntu freeze? using gnome?
[04:42] <_jason> Allan, did you enable root?
[04:43] <rikai> Allan, are there any real advantages to it?
[04:43] <rikai> XiCillin, mine used to, back when i was using hoary...
[04:43] <Allan> how do u enable root? advantages to what? I can't install flash or java; something's wrong there too.
[04:43] <dwalton59> can I get apt off the debian disk?
[04:43] <_jason> Allan, you shouldn't, I was just wondering if you did
[04:43] <gnube> dwalton59, which debian disk and yes.
[04:43] <XiCillin> rikai, hum. i'm  using breezy, with gnome and a macosx theme, and nothing but irc and gaim running after a day or so it'll freeze
[04:43] <dwalton59> 3.1
[04:44] <Allan> what is enabling root?
[04:44] <Allan> never mind
[04:44] <hartsantler> has there ever been a virus that affected ubuntu?
[04:44] <Allan> P.S. It's hard to answer 3 people at once
[04:44] <gnube> dwalton59, apt is the advanced package manager, it is a debian tool. So it exists on the debian disk.
[04:44] <gnube> hartsantler, no
[04:44] <_jason> Allan, a command like 'sudo echo hi' works though?
[04:44] <rikai> XiCillin, breezy fixed my freezing issues, might it be possibly a faulty component, or your machine getting too hot?
[04:44] <hartsantler> hi, gnube, how sure are you on that 'no' ?
[04:44] <XiCillin> I'm wondering if anyone else has experiences this problem. if not, then its me and ubuntu is cool
[04:44] <rikai> Allan, are you runing an amd64 release?
[04:44] <Allan> no it doesn't
[04:45] <Allan> yes rikai
[04:45] <gnube> hartsantler, of course not, but what are you talking about.
[04:45] <Lukian> XiCillin: i'd say it's gaim :)
[04:45] <_jason> Allan, groups | grep admin
[04:45] <gnube> what kind of virus?
[04:45] <gnube> like a mail worm?
[04:45] <Allan> huh?
[04:45] <rikai> Allan, thats why you cant install flash and java, there's no 64bit versions.
[04:45] <XiCillin> lukian, meh its happened with kopete also
[04:45] <_jason> Allan, run the command 'groups | grep admin' and see if it says anything
[04:45] <Allan> it worked fine on amd64 windows
[04:45] <XiCillin> also my gnome panel freezes when i try to shutdown with other pgorams running
[04:45] <hartsantler> i've got this sys admin guy who only knows how to use winblows, and he is scared my ubuntu machine is going to get a virus and he won't be able to fix it.
[04:46] <gnube> hartsantler, He does not know what he is talking about.
[04:46] <MoonRanger> how can you check if you have flash installed
[04:46] <robotgeek> Allan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64 , you are outta luck with flash
[04:46] <XiCillin> but its not a huge deal i'm getting an AMD in a few days
[04:46] <Allan> _jason: it says a bunch of meaningless stuff
[04:46] <XiCillin> alienware
[04:46] <dwalton59> gnube dos that mean that i can not installl form the debian disk
[04:46] <rikai> Allan, there's no linux amd64 package for flash.
[04:46] <gnube> hartsantler, There are exploits of course, but the security model is completely different from Windows.
[04:46] <_jason> Allan, hrmm, sudo used to work?
[04:46] <Allan> yes jason
[04:46] <rikai> Allan, there is a workaround for java though.
[04:46] <gnube> dwalton59, You can install from the debian disk if you want, sure.
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> hey guys when i do an su to become root and type in my password i get this
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> setgid: Operation not permitted
[04:47] <dwalton59> how do I do this
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> i accidently did a chmod -R 777 /  :(
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> what can i do
[04:47] <gnube> dwalton59, You will be installing debians version of apt-get not ubunut's if that makes any difference to you.
[04:47] <Allan> rikia: talk to me about java & flash later. Right now I'm trying to get synaptic working.
[04:47] <_jason> hartsantler, tell him 'thanks for his concern'.  You're safter with linux, let him spend his days virus scanning and spyware removing.
[04:47] <gnube> JaZyLNX, chmod back
[04:47] <JaZyLNX> but i can't gain root access
[04:47] <dwalton59> ok thx
[04:47] <gnube> JaZyLNX, What do you want to do? make a program executable?
[04:48] <gnube> do this; sudo chmod 755 foo
[04:48] <_jason> Allan, ok try 'sudo -K' again and then do 'sudo echo hi'
[04:48] <JaZyLNX> sudo chmod 755 foo
[04:48] <JaZyLNX> sudo: must be setuid root
[04:48] <JaZyLNX> what i get
[04:48] <gnube> yeah, just change foo to the name of your program.
[04:48] <hmpedersen> Right.. My live disc wont load.. Gave me a crc error..
[04:48] <Allan> it asks for a password. Should I put mine/
[04:48] <gnube> JaZyLNX, How did you chmod it in the first place then?
[04:49] <robotgeek> Allan: yes
[04:49] <_jason> Allan, yes, your user password
[04:49] <gnube> Allan, Yes\
[04:49] <rev> why does my wlan interface do not automatically get an IP from the dhcpd when I start wpa_supplicant? I have to start dhclient manually
[04:49] <Allan> ok.
[04:49] <JaZyLNX> well i was able to get root access to do it.. but after doing chmod 777 -R / then i got error
[04:49] <Allan> it does nothing
[04:49] <Allan> same as ever
[04:49] <_jason> Allan, did it say hi?  ack
[04:49] <Allan> no
[04:49] <jordo23> Anyone here use any web content management systems?
[04:49] <gnube> JaZyLNX, Can you get root access againb?
[04:49] <rikai> XiCillin, installing ubuntu on the alienware? ;)
[04:49] <robotgeek> jordo23: www.opensourcecms.org
[04:49] <Allan> synaptic worked yesterday
[04:49] <JaZyLNX> not threw command.
[04:49] <gnube> jordo23, drupal
[04:49] <JaZyLNX> maybe threw X
[04:50] <JaZyLNX> hold on
[04:50] <XiCillin> hell yea, its an amd athlon64 x2 4800+, intsalling ubuntu-64 with SMP
[04:50] <jordo23> robotgeek: I am familar with most of them, but can't decide on which to use.
[04:50] <XiCillin> its going to be like lighting
[04:50] <_jason> Allan, I don't really know then.  Can you think of what you did between yesterday and now?
[04:50] <Allan> played freeciv
[04:50] <robotgeek> jordo23: hmm, okay. wordpress wouldn't count :)
[04:50] <hmpedersen> XiCillin, i hope it works for you
[04:50] <rikai> XiCillin, you should document how it goes and post up your story on the forums ;)
[04:50] <Allan> last evening, and this morning
[04:50] <jordo23> robotgeek: You use any of them?
[04:50] <XiCillin> hmpedersen, rikai, yea i will
[04:51] <XiCillin> its going to be fun
[04:51] <Allan> with a bit of lbreakout2
[04:51] <XiCillin> nvidia geforce cards too
[04:51] <hmpedersen> XiCillin, im only sayin.. Cause it didnt work for me..
[04:51] <hartsantler> how many years has ubuntu been around?
[04:51] <XiCillin> I'll make it work
[04:51] <robotgeek> jordo23: no, i only use wordpress for my blog. drupal,zope and turbo gears i think are pretty popular
[04:51] <XiCillin> just gotta install ubuntu64 and smp kernel
[04:51] <gnube> JaZyLNX, Are you trying to make executable your entire file system?
[04:51] <JaZyLNX> i accidently did.
[04:51] <gnube> hartsantler, Just one, but linux has been around for fifteen
[04:52] <JaZyLNX> and no i can't gain root access anymore :(
[04:52] <jordo23> robotgeek: I heard joomla is pretty good.
[04:52] <JaZyLNX> damnit
[04:52] <rikai> XiCillin, feel free to pm me a link to it on the forums, i've got the same name over there. ;)
[04:52] <XiCillin> ok
[04:52] <robotgeek> jordo23: no idea, i just read about them. well, use them and see. they are free after all
[04:53] <gnube> hartsantler, Ubuntu is a prject based on debian. Debian is one of the most stable and widely used linux distrobutions. Linux is based on UNIX but uses entirely free software.
[04:53] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when i play moves full screen in mplayer it plays slow in windows it played fine
[04:53] <gnube> It really should be called GNU/Linux
[04:53] <Allan> _jason: I'm still listening
[04:53] <JaZyLNX> reinstall or what?
[04:53] <_jason> Allan, I'm out of ideas, sorry
[04:54] <Allan> any other chat rooms i could try?
[04:54] <dwalton59> #gnome
[04:54] <_jason> Allan, repeat your problem in a few minutes and see if someone else can try to help you
[04:54] <gnube> Allan, What is it you need to do?
[04:54] <hmpedersen> Perhaps i should be smart for once, and backup all my files before attempting this..
[04:54] <Allan> no jason, I think someone is already here (gnube) ^_^
[04:55] <Allan> open synaptic
[04:55] <tsw> which identd do you guys use? I would like identd that would be as secure as possible and still give the right info (so nullidentd is out)
[04:55] <app> Anyone know how the Breezy launch feedback is configurable?
[04:55] <gnube> Allan, I doubt if I can be more help than jason . . .
[04:55] <myke> what app can rip cds into mp3s?
[04:55] <gnube> Allan, firstly, it is installed right?
[04:55] <Allan> yes, it worked yesterday
[04:56] <_jason> Allan, one thing, did you do expert install?  --sorry for interrupting
[04:56] <hakare> hi all
[04:56] <gnube> Allan, do this, which synaptic
[04:56] <Allan> package manager
[04:56] <gnube> # which synaptic
[04:56] <gnube> and paste in the chat window.
[04:56] <ejofee> when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[04:56] <Allan> what do u mean?
[04:56] <hmpedersen> myke, i think u allready got an answer a few times now..
[04:56] <gnube> Allan, I know "which" synaptic, but I mean entire this command in the command line;
[04:56] <gnube> which synaptic
[04:56] <hakare> How do i install samba on ubuntu?
[04:56] <myke> i dont see it
[04:57] <Allan> it's not a command line; i use the "system" menu
[04:57] <gnube> Allan, Can you open a terminal?
[04:57] <hmpedersen> myke, well.. Scroll up. I cant repeat it, as i don't have channel logging, and ive rebooted
[04:57] <Allan> yes i have one open
[04:57] <Allan> sudo synaptic is what i'll try
[04:57] <gnube> type this in the terminal:
[04:58] <gnube> which synaptic
[04:58] <Allan> ok
[04:58] <gnube> type the message you get
[04:58] <myke> hmpedersen i dont see it
[04:58] <gnube> you should see something like this:
[04:58] <gnube> /usr/bin/synaptic
[04:58] <the_mr_bong_show> why is it when i play moves full screen in mplayer it plays slow in windows it played fine
[04:58] <gnube> or rather /usr/sbin/synaptic
[04:58] <myke> it seems my screen dont go all the way to the top
[04:58] <myke> it isnt logging all of it
[04:58] <Allan> gnube: #2 is esact
[04:59] <Allan> ugh
[04:59] <gnube> so do this and see what happens;
[04:59] <gnube> sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[04:59] <Allan> it won't let me post it
[04:59] <myke> i have serpentine
[04:59] <gnube> give your password when it asks you
[04:59] <hmpedersen> myke, you could allways try Sound Juicer
[04:59] <Allan> it didn't ask
[04:59] <myke> but it only rips into mp3/flac
[04:59] <myke> thats what i meant
[05:00] <myke> sound jucier
[05:00] <Allan> it just said allan@Owl: - ~$
[05:00] <app> I am asking about launch feedback, because I don't think Linux is good for "human beings" as long as you can choose commands in menus and NOTHING happens before waiting tens of seconds for Windows to open, or fail to open silently wiht no feedback in UI.
[05:00] <myke> is there a plugin for mp3?
[05:00] <hmpedersen> myke, k.. it was only a thought, as ive never used it..
[05:00] <Xperience> whats a good AC3 codec?
[05:00] <gnube> Allan, Did you enter this in the command line window:
[05:00] <myke> it only does flac/ogg
[05:00] <Xperience> i cant hear ac3 sound in a movie i encoded
[05:00] <gnube> sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:00] <SuperLag> I'm running Xen on Gentoo.  I would like to know if I can install Ubuntu in one of the VMs using the debootstrap utility.  Is that possible?
[05:00] <Allan> yes
[05:01] <Allan> that's what it gave me: Allan@Owl: - ~$
[05:01] <gnube> SuperLag, that sounds interesting. You should try it but I doubt it will work.
[05:01] <gnube> SuperLag, I think debbootstrap is really debian centric
[05:01] <SuperLag> gnube: why do you doubt it will work?
[05:01] <gnube> SuperLag, I think debbootstrap is really debian centric
[05:01] <Xperience> whats a good AC3 codec?
[05:01] <Xperience> i really need an ac3 codec
[05:01] <SuperLag> gnube: that's what I was thinking...
[05:01] <app> Right now I have "Updates" icon in right upper corner, and NOTHING  happens if I right click anything of its menu...
[05:01] <tech9iner> misfit_toy man o man mang.. once again.. austin wins 'berkeley' like spotlight.. ;] .. http://www.aiatopten.org/hpb/overview.cfm?ProjectID=470
[05:02] <gnube> SuperLag, take a look at the code, I think it is perl or shell
[05:02] <Xperience> !info ac3
[05:02] <gnube> so it should be easy to tell
[05:02] <gnube> but it basically calls the netinstall image and then apt-gets everything
[05:02] <gnube> sorry Allan, where were we
[05:02] <robotgeek> app: moment
[05:03] <Allan> when I entered sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic, it did nothing and asked for another command.
[05:03] <gnube> Allan, try this, sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic &
[05:03] <Xperience> ok can someone help me?
[05:03] <gnube> Allan, This time we add the ampersand at the end of the command
[05:03] <gnube> Xperience, what is the issue
[05:03] <Xperience> i need a codec that can play ac3 sound files (dvd audio)
[05:03] <Allan> ok
[05:03] <robotgeek> app: don't you get a busy cursor when you launch something?
[05:03] <Allan> it said something about a broken pipe
[05:03] <hmpedersen> Hey.. Can ne1 tell me, if i can install gparted and shrink /, if im using the ubuntu live disc?
[05:03] <mcphail> SuperLag: why not use vmware instead of xen?
[05:03] <Xperience> everytime i encode a movie to dvd theres no audio
[05:04] <Allan> It said: [1]  12694
[05:04] <Allan> [1]    Broken pipe             sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell Xperience about multimedia
[05:04] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[05:04] <gnube> Xperience, I wish I could help you but I rarely leave the command lie.
[05:04] <Xperience> lol
[05:04] <_jason> Xperience, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg includes an ac3 codec
[05:04] <gnube> Allan, Aha!
[05:04] <Xperience> thx
[05:04] <rikai> Hm, nano is my best friend... forget gedit :E~
[05:04] <gnube> Allan, Now we are getting somewhere
[05:04] <Allan> what's going wrong?
[05:04] <gnube> rikai, nano, eww
[05:04] <app> Yes, I get the busy cursor, but I would like to change the configuration. Sometimes the busy cursor is there less time than the app takes to start. And sometimes it will not appear at all.
[05:04] <gnube> emacs rocks
[05:04] <Allan> broken is obviously wrong, but what does it mean?
[05:04] <_jason> Xperience, you should probably read the links ubotu sent you as well
[05:04] <gnube> allan do this,
[05:04] <smo> SuperLag, as long as you see breezy in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/, debootstrap should work just fine (atleast, it worked fine for me with hoary)
[05:05] <gnube> apt-get remove synaptic
[05:05] <_jason> Allan, have you tried restarting?
[05:05] <Allan> more broken pipes. jason, yes.
[05:05] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason do yo uknow why when i play fullsceen videos or even double the size in mplayer the videos are really slow
[05:05] <Allan> no wait. no proken pipes: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:06] <rikai> gnube, i havent had the time to learn emacs or vi, nano is quick and dirty, and very simple.
[05:06] <Allan> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:06] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, try to add the -framedrop switch
[05:06] <app> robotgeek: I am a Linux teacher. I just try make understand, how to make the launch feedback more fool proof.
[05:06] <gnube> rikai, I see. But once you do learn emacs you will be very happy and productive.
[05:06] <robotgeek> app: yes, i understand. maybe you can file a usability bug somewhere?
[05:06] <_jason> rikai, or vi, you will be happier
[05:06] <robotgeek> app: i'm sure it will be taken seriously
[05:06] <gnube> _jason, HERETIC!!!
[05:06] <the_mr_bong_show> -framedrop switch?
[05:06] <Xperience> _jason i have gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg installed
[05:07] <gnube> :)
[05:07] <trappist> emacs is a nice operating system, but I prefer linux.
[05:07] <giftnudel> rikai, or stay with what you now and you'll be faster than learning a new editor ...
[05:07] <gnube> trappist, w00t!
[05:07] <rikai> gnube, _jason i do plan on learning to use both, but they seem jsut so damn complicated.
[05:07] <app> Robotgeek, first I was asking, if anybody has any documenmtation at all about the launch icon. I don't find it with Google or "locate".
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> emacs would be better if it had a nice text editor built in.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:07] <gnube> giftnudel, Not true
[05:07] <giftnudel> hehe
[05:07] <Allan> the apt-get thingy says: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:07] <smo> it worries me that someone, somewhere, is probably trying to write a kernel in lisp
[05:07] <Allan> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:07] <_jason> rikai, try running: 'vimtutor'
[05:07] <gnube> Allan, Sorry, do this;
[05:07] <rikai> giftnudel, perhaps in the short term.
[05:07] <mcphail> app: this is a good point. Most of us are just used to launching from terminals if the menu doesn't work.
[05:07] <gnube> sudo apt-get remove synaptic
[05:08] <gnube> answer y when it asks you
[05:08] <gnube> 0or you can do this:
[05:08] <_jason> Xperience, do you have the other codecs isntalled as well?
[05:08] <gnube> sudo aptitude -y remove synaptic
[05:08] <Allan> what is it supposed to ask me?
[05:08] <rikai> smo, i shall write a kernel in B
[05:08] <giftnudel> rikai, well if I need to get something done tomorrow, it's short term for me
[05:08] <robotgeek> app: i know kde has launch feedback, i dunno about gnome. i'll look, one sec
[05:08] <rikai> smo, heh ;)
[05:08] <Allan> it didn't ask anything
[05:08] <app> I know launch feedback can be configured with KDE control center, but I don't find anyhting similar on Breezy's Gnome.
[05:08] <gnube> Allan, after removing you will have blah blah free space
[05:08] <giftnudel> rikai, but you are right there ..
[05:08] <Mike_> hi, i've had lots of problems setting up a wireless card
[05:09] <gnube> Allan, ok then,
[05:09] <gnube> next
[05:09] <gnube> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:09] <_jason> gnube, I don't think he even has sudo working.  'sudo echo hi' returns nothing for him
[05:09] <SuperLag> gnube: so. If I can't install Ubuntu via debootstrap... is there a way to install it from within an existing install?
[05:09] <Mike_> is there any wireless cards on the market with linux drivers?
[05:09] <Allan> wait
[05:09] <rikai> holy crap, vegastrike-data is huge o.O;
[05:09] <the_mr_bong_show> whats the -framedrop switch
[05:09] <SuperLag> gnube: i.e. from my Gentoo-Xen box, and direct it to the partition I've created for a vm?
[05:09] <gnube> SuperLag, Yeah you can partition your hard disk and install it there, needs about two gigs
[05:09] <Allan> neither command does anything visible.
[05:09] <giftnudel> the_mr_bong_show, it drops frames
[05:10] <Allan> the install or the remove
[05:10] <gnube> Allan,  Your termianl is screwed up.
[05:10] <robotgeek> app: it might be under startup-notification, one sec
[05:10] <app> Robotgeek and mcphail, my dream is not only "Linux for humans", but even Linux for people who use computers only because they must, not because they want. And people who are busy with work, family, hobbies and everythin non-computer. People who hate computers.
[05:10] <gnube> this is starting to sound serious.
[05:10] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i use it
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  I  belive theres  the 5200, or 2500 chipset ones.. but i forget the details.. some Linux mag. wrote about how the company was fully supporting linux.
[05:10] <Allan> I'll ask again about this in 15 minutes.
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: over the network? or am I going to have to use a CD?
[05:11] <gnube> Mike_, There are tons of cards and driv ers
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: the partition itself is already created
[05:11] <gnube> SuperLag, Is this machine in a colo?
[05:11] <Mike_> i've heard the Linksys ones are good, do they offer linux drivers?
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: not yet :)
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: that's the idea though
[05:11] <gnube> SuperLag, But it is headless?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  it depends more on the exact chipset of the card. then the maker of the card.
[05:11] <SuperLag> gnube: yes
[05:11] <gnube> hmmm.
[05:11] <gnube> I did this recently actually.\
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  some times the makers have different versions of the same card/modle name. with differnet chipsets even. :(
[05:12] <MaGoX> hello
[05:12] <gnube> I think you can download the netinstall image and then you apt-get to pull stuff from ubuntu
[05:12] <SuperLag> gnube: I can download an ISO and loopmount it... I just don't know how to *start* the install process the way the scripts run from the CD when you boot it up. (if that makes sense)
[05:12] <gnube> SuperLag, I think you can download the netinstall image and then you apt-get to pull stuff from ubuntu
[05:12] <MaGoX> to view the version of gcc kompiled kernel
[05:12] <MaGoX> spek spanish sorry
[05:13] <MaGoX> speak
[05:13] <MaGoX> xD
[05:13] <SuperLag> gnube: do you have a URL to the netinstall image, by chance?
[05:13] <robotgeek> app: there's a startup library, libstartup-notification0, but i don't think too many apps use that though
[05:13] <Mike_> well the Linksys PCI cards have Atheros chipsets which i believe are better supported than the ACX111 crap
[05:13] <gnube> SuperLag, I think it is on the debian front page
[05:13] <rikai> app, hm, ubuntu DOES need to be made more seamless...
[05:13] <Kaltherz> Hi !!
[05:13] <Mike_> but it's still ridiculously hard getting a wireless card to work under linux
[05:13] <Kaltherz> Hey, someone can answer to me...
[05:13] <Mike_> which is really letting it down
[05:13] <SuperLag> gnube: so Debian... nto Ubuntu?
[05:13] <gnube> SuperLag, But debian and ubuntu are not so different if you are running headless . . .
[05:13] <robotgeek> Mike_: it depends on which card you have
[05:13] <jenda> Kaltherz: don't ask to ask... just ask :)
[05:13] <MaGoX> hello to view the version of gcc as my kernel compiled ??
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  you dont want to know the hassles ive had getting wireless working under windowes either. :P
[05:14] <Kaltherz> How can I to not accept incoming messages in the "amule" ?
[05:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Mike_ about wireless
[05:14] <SuperLag> gnube: there is one big difference, in my case.  Look at the following line. :)
[05:14] <gnube> SuperLag, they do not have a netinstall as far as I know.
[05:14] <SuperLag> Linux xenmaster 2.6.12.6-xen-dom0 #1 Tue Dec 20 22:32:29 CST 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[05:14] <giftnudel> MaGoX, just do a modinfo i810
[05:14] <SuperLag> gnube: AMD64
[05:14] <gnube> ahhh 64 bits
[05:14] <Mike_> i've never had a problem running anything, under windows
[05:14] <gnube> why not stay with debian?
[05:14] <Skies> how can I install apache 2.2.0? :D
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
[05:14] <smo> SuperLag: if the host is ubuntu, debootstrap should be all setup ready to go
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Mike_,  consider yourself very very very lucky then.
[05:14] <SuperLag> smo: the host is Gentoo.
[05:14] <app> I saw that too, but how do you configure it? Well, I have to go, mail me at app@iki.fi if you please. Thanks for the keywords "startup-notification". kKeywords are the gold pieces of todays computer jungles...
[05:15] <robotgeek> Mike_: maybe we shud just get tou your wireless issue?
[05:15] <gnube> smo, Can you use bootstrap to install ubunut he wants to know
[05:15] <conrad_> hi, got a tar.gz file for which i thought the untarring was cvzf??
[05:15] <Ng> xvzf
[05:15] <Ng> cvzf is for creating
[05:15] <SuperLag> gnube: because, compared to Ubuntu, Debian doesn't do AMD64 well at all.
[05:15] <robotgeek> app: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/startup-notification/
[05:15] <Mike_> ok
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Ralink have 'got the message' on Free Software, and have released their drivers under the GPL.
[05:15] <giftnudel> MaGoX, did you understand?
[05:15] <smo> gnube, I have done, but only from an ubuntu host
[05:15] <conrad_> hi
[05:16] <conrad_> can someone help me with a noob question?
[05:16] <CarlFK> gnube: This may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[05:16] <MaGoX> giftnudel ok this is the new or the orignial compiled kernel because the NVDIA driver say that the version 3.4 is not correct
[05:16] <CarlFK> conrad_: not if you dont' ask the question ;)
[05:16] <conrad_> i've got cvpjf ; xvpfi
[05:16] <DRK13> HI room  :)
[05:16] <dsevilla> well, today my dapper says it is gonna deinstall dbus
[05:16] <MaGoX> sevilla
[05:16] <MaGoX> k pasa !!
[05:16] <MaGoX> xD
[05:16] <Mike_> ok, i have no net connection on ubuntu, so i'm having to download stuff under xp and share it over via my compactflash card. i have installed ndiswrapper-utils, and also the ndisgtk front end, i have installed the TNET1130.inf driver, but when i do ndiswrapper -l it's reports 'hardware not present'
[05:16] <dsevilla> when I dist-upgrade it
[05:17] <conrad_> CarlFK: i did but was ignored , so i thought i'd make sure someone was listening first this time
[05:17] <giftnudel> MaGoX, this from you currently running kernel
[05:17] <MaGoX> dsevilla hablas espanyol no ?
[05:17] <dsevilla> MaGoX, hola :)
[05:17] <robotgeek> Mike_: is it supported by ndiswrapper?
[05:17] <Skies> how can I install apache 2.2.0? :D
[05:17] <Mike_> the card has a Texas Instruments ACX111 chipset
[05:17] <conrad_> CarlFK: well thx. Can you tell me how to untar .gz file? please
[05:17] <stianh> Skis: is it just released?
[05:17] <dsevilla> MaGoX, pues s?
[05:17] <MaGoX> giftundel ok but its no the original kompiled kernel
[05:17] <jhenn> can anyone help me with setting up internet connection sharing?
[05:17] <Mike_> it's a no name brand card, fairly new, it's not on the list of supported cards, no
[05:17] <MaGoX> dsivilla
[05:17] <darker-shadow> thanks amigos
[05:17] <conrad_> i thought it was tar cvzf??
[05:17] <robotgeek> conrad_: tar -zxf file.tar.gz
[05:18] <MaGoX> dsevilla vaia tio jajajja toi aki kon el ubuntu
[05:18] <robotgeek> conrad_: c is for compress
[05:18] <conrad_> robotgeek: thanks
[05:18] <robotgeek> Mike_: i meant on the ndiswrapper wiki
[05:18] <Kaltherz> otia
[05:18] <MaGoX> tu no sabras por casualidad como ver la version original con que se compilo el kernel
[05:18] <darker-shadow> it's root is active
[05:18] <Kaltherz> espaoles
[05:18] <CarlFK> conrad_: I think you can just double click it.  if that doesnt work...   no.  "tar c" is for create.  x is for extract.  man tar before you proceed.
[05:18] <smo> robotgeek: c is create .. z is gzip and j is bzip2
[05:18] <darker-shadow> and work excellent
[05:18] <giftnudel> MaGoX,  then you need to boot that kernel for this version
[05:18] <robotgeek> smo: yes, i know. thanks :)
[05:18] <giftnudel> MaGoX, there might be a better one
[05:18] <MaGoX> esque tengo el Driver de Nvidia que me pide el gcc que compilo el kernel
[05:18] <Mike_> i know that's what you meant
[05:18] <Mike_> i said no
[05:19] <robotgeek> Mike_: then, probably no
[05:19] <Mike_> robotgeek: the specific card is not listed
[05:19] <Kaltherz> bye bye !
[05:19] <Mike_> robotgeek: the specific card has been out about 2 weeks
[05:19] <robotgeek> Mike_: chipset?
[05:19] <Mike_> robotgeek: for 4th time, ACX111
[05:19] <MaGoX> giftnudel i install the lastest version but the nvidia say the message alredy
[05:19] <robotgeek> Mike_: you are going to have a tough time with it
[05:19] <dsevilla> anybody using dapper? having locale problems???
[05:19] <CarlFK> I have a scan of a full page.  how can I print that so it is fit to the size of the page?  (it is ok if the "no print zone" doen't print, there isn't anything in that space on the original)
[05:20] <Ng> CarlFK: GIMP can scale things down when it prints
[05:20] <giftnudel> MaGoX, hmm, let me check, I find a method
[05:20] <claes> dsevilla, Using dapper no locales problem what I know off.
[05:20] <MaGoX> kaltherz hola !
[05:20] <MaGoX> ok xD
[05:20] <MaGoX> thanks
[05:20] <Mike_> the majority of people using ndiswrapper are using it to wrap around ACX111 drivers
[05:20] <Mike_> so i thought it would be easy to sort
[05:20] <linuxgeek2> does anyone know how to install transparency using gdesklets
[05:20] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:20] <trappist> dsevilla: I have to mess with the LANG variable on breezy and dapper
[05:21] <dsevilla> trappist, and what did you put in them? :)
[05:21] <trappist> dsevilla: C
[05:21] <giftnudel> MaGoX, find the kernel in /lib/modules/kernel-name
[05:21] <dsevilla> hahah, nice
[05:21] <dsevilla> OK, that's a not working locale :)
[05:21] <Mike_> hmm apparently the Belkin ones are now linux
[05:21] <giftnudel> MaGoX, and do strings arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko | grep verma
[05:21] <Mike_> i'll look into getting another wireless card, or a cable
[05:21] <trappist> dsevilla: without it, line characters (like in `pstree`) come out as garbage in Eterm
[05:21] <giftnudel> MaGoX, you need to be in that directory
[05:21] <linuxgeek2> gdesklets ?
[05:21] <claes> dsevilla, LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[05:22] <trappist> claes: do you have Eterm installed?
[05:22] <giftnudel> MaGoX, otherwiese strings /lib/modules/kernel-name/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko | grep verma
[05:22] <CarlFK> ng - gimp didn't quite get it right.  it scaled it, but didn't "trim" the zone, so it moved the start down, which pushed things printed on the bottom into the zone
[05:22] <giftnudel> -e
[05:22] <claes> trappist, nope
[05:22] <dsevilla> claes, yeah, if you have an English locale, but not if you have an Spanish one
[05:22] <Mike_> yeah Dr Willis that's the belkin cards
[05:22] <Mike_> or the Ralink chipsets
[05:23] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i got a question about partions and xp and ubuntu
[05:23] <dsevilla> claes, mmm... does this mean that ubuntu has switched to UTF-8?
[05:23] <robotgeek> Mike_: the ralinks are nice, i use them :)
[05:23] <claes> dsevilla, check with "locale -a" see if you find anything you like. :-)
[05:23] <Mike_> i might try and get one
[05:23] <Ng> CarlFK: I have no idea what you are talking about with trimming and zones, but I know that if I try to print a huge image in gimp and tell it to scale horizontally and vertically (in the print dialog) it all fits on the page. Is that not what you're asking for?
[05:23] <Mike_> are they the only chipset with linux drivers?
[05:23] <trappist> dsevilla: there are several bugs in bugzilla about the UTF-8 locale situation
[05:23] <hmpedersen> Hey.. Can ne1 tell me, if i can install gparted and shrink /, if im using the ubuntu live disc?
[05:23] <Mike_> does it work out of the box on linux
[05:23] <Mike_> ?
[05:23] <claes> dsevilla, They switched with breezy I think.
[05:23] <Mike_> on ubuntu, i mean?
[05:24] <MaGoX> giftundel one moment , i don't know otherwiese
[05:24] <robotgeek> Mike_: yes
[05:24] <Ng> Mike_: I bought a NetGear WPN311 the other day (athereos based) and it Just Worked
[05:24] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one give me a link or tell me step by step on how i can partion my hdd so i can boot and use xp or ubuntu
[05:24] <giftnudel> MaGoX, otherwise
[05:24] <Mike_> hmm interesting
[05:25] <giftnudel> MaGoX, otherwise = if not then
[05:25] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  well for a start - backup everything thats imporntant.
[05:25] <Ng> Mike_: www.linuxemporium.co.uk have some linux compatible cards too I think
[05:25] <the_mr_bong_show> did that
[05:25] <Mike_> i am looking at that site now thanks
[05:25] <Ng> Mike_: they're probably ralink based. I only mention it because you have a .uk hostname :)
[05:25] <MaGoX> ok
[05:25] <Ng> ah
[05:25] <Mike_> Bristol, UK
[05:26] <Foodcoman> Greetings
[05:27] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  then I  normally just use a live cd like the "SystemRescueCD" and use qt_parted to resize the existing aoprtition. and leave a sectuion of the Hd "Unallocated" then let the isntaller set up that as it wants
[05:27] <MaGoX> giftundel don't find /arch
[05:27] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  be sure to  tell the installer to use the existing free space.. NOT the 'whole hard drive'
[05:27] <conrad_> i've cd'd into a folder andthere are different colored listings
[05:27] <mcphail> Mike_: try googling for different windows drivers for your card, and try them all with ndiswrapper
[05:27] <MaGoX> giftnudel don't find /arch
[05:28] <conrad_> what can i do to open setup.sh which is in green?
[05:28] <Mike_> hmm
[05:28] <Mike_> my card brings up 3 results
[05:28] <claes> conrad_,      ./setup.sh
[05:28] <conrad_> thx
[05:28] <Mike_> all from the shop i bought it at!
[05:28] <darker-shadow> another question if i will upload the script the server on the net, can you tell me  please. how to configuration the script and install him?
[05:28] <MaGoX> giftnudel /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/
[05:29] <MaGoX> don't find /arch
[05:29] <the_mr_bong_show> see i what i would like to do is use fdisk and part half my drive half for windows half for ubuntu how do i get xp on one part and ubuntu on the other and then when i turn on the pc let my pc ask if i want to boot ubuntu or xp
[05:29] <giftnudel> MaGoX, cd kernel
[05:29] <giftnudel> MaGoX, it's in there
[05:29] <conrad_> claes: says bash no such file or directory
[05:29] <darker-shadow> ???
[05:29] <giftnudel> MaGoX, but need to go, sorry
[05:30] <claes> conrad_, Are you in the directory where the setup.sh is?
[05:30] <conrad_> yes
[05:30] <conrad_> already there, in it
[05:30] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  yes.. the ubuntu install will add a boot menu.
[05:30] <Mike_> it's strange that on the ubuntu wiki, several acx111 cards are showing as working out of the box
[05:31] <Mike_> even without ndiswrapper
[05:31] <willis_> the_mr_bong_show,  it will do exactly that.
[05:31] <claes> conrad_, Check the first line in the script setup.sh what does that say?
[05:31] <conrad_> claes: there is a Read me file etc
[05:31] <darker-shadow> some one?
[05:31] <MaGoX> ok thanks very mach bye bye
[05:31] <conrad_> claes: that is what i don't know because i can't open it
[05:31] <LoppApan> the_mr_bong_show: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm
[05:31] <conrad_> is it cat?
[05:31] <claes> conrad_, Try:   head setup.sh
[05:32] <claes> conrad_, head shows you the first 10 lines of a file.
[05:32] <conrad_> says cannot open setup.sh for reading?
[05:32] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: you can view a video tutorial on that at this url http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6104490811311898236&q=
[05:32] <conrad_> it's green does that mean it is not a reading file?
[05:32] <claes> conrad_, Do you have the permissions to read the file? ls -l setup.sh
[05:33] <conrad_> well, i'm root
[05:33] <the_mr_bong_show> i got my hdd part already half and half but how do i get windows ty
[05:33] <claes> conrad_, What does: file setup.sh    say?
[05:33] <the_mr_bong_show> sorry
[05:33] <the_mr_bong_show> thank you sorry im a newbe
[05:33] <claes> conrad_, Green means it's executable.
[05:34] <conrad_> claes: that is what i thought. do you know the command to  execute it?
[05:34] <the_mr_bong_show> lowman62 that site was Not Found
[05:34] <the_mr_bong_show> Error 404
[05:34] <willis_> ./whatever.sh
[05:34] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: no i was just saying if you are more kinestetic like me then watching a video would be more helpful
[05:35] <lowman62> i have it up here now
[05:35] <the_mr_bong_show> true i am that way thats why screenshots and movies help alot i have to see it lol
[05:35] <claes> conrad_, It should be executable by itself.   ./setup.sh    should run it.   it's     dot/setup.sh
[05:36] <conrad_> claes: i opened it
[05:36] <the_mr_bong_show> well that site im geting an 404
[05:36] <conrad_> if you want the  head
[05:36] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: go to http://video.google.com and ask for "dual booting windows xp and ubuntu" it is the first thing that shows up
[05:36] <hmpedersen> Oh.. Is there a way to get a graphical bootloader in ubuntu?
[05:36] <willis_> I wonder what this setup.sh is even for.
[05:36] <willis_> hmpedersen,  you mean a nice fancy grub menu?
[05:36] <hmpedersen> willis, more like a nice clean lilo with a few options..
[05:37] <claes> conrad_, It should be executable by itself.   ./setup.sh    should run it.   it's     dot/setup.sh
[05:37] <conrad_> claes: successfully excuted ./ command. Now says,"Your cgoban shell script is now configured. You may copy this shell
[05:37] <conrad_> script to a /bin directory and use it to run cgoban. Please leave
[05:37] <conrad_> all other files in place.
[05:37] <the_mr_bong_show> lawman62 didnt find it
[05:37] <claes> conrad_, Then it worked.
[05:38] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: oh bouy! se la vi
[05:38] <dsevilla> OK, guys, the locale problem is solved
[05:38] <conrad_> claes: thx, what about copying to a /bin to run the app from there?
[05:38] <dsevilla> just changing the locales from es_ES@euro to es_ES.euro works
[05:38] <mcphail> conrad_: sudo mv cgoban /usr/local/bin/
[05:38] <dsevilla> just @ -> . in locales
[05:38] <dsevilla> thanks for your help
[05:38] <Skies> how can I install apache 2.2.0? :D
[05:39] <the_mr_bong_show> i found it i had to search for xp and ubuntu
[05:39] <conrad_> Thank you, mcphail
[05:39] <lowman62> the_mr_bong_show: well there you go...get on with your bad self :P``
[05:40] <the_mr_bong_show> lol
[05:40] <lowman62> :)
[05:40] <conrad_> mcphail: sorry to be such a nuisance with my noob quesitons. What does that command effectively do now?
[05:40] <the_mr_bong_show> lowman62 how do i play it lol
[05:41] <mcphail> conrad_: it move the shell script to a directory which is in your $PATH (in other words you can run it simply by typing the name)
[05:41] <conrad_> in the shell?
[05:41] <mcphail> conrad_: yes
[05:42] <conrad_> mcphail: and can i have it to run from Applications too?
[05:42] <conrad_> using menu editor??
[05:42] <xwolf> yo people... know the shipit ubuntu cds? which interface do they come with?
[05:42] <conrad_> mcphail: soz, Applications Menu Editor?
[05:43] <mcphail> conrad_: yes
[05:43] <Eleaf> conrad_, `!
[05:43] <trappist> xwolf: interface?
[05:43] <HighHopes> Hello folks! Is it possible to disable RSDP detection, fan, acpi and so on in Ubuntu? because my Laptop is old and it uses APM, not ACPI. How can I achieve this? \
[05:44] <conrad_> mcphail: is it the .jar or sh.in one i need to open?
[05:44] <xwolf> trappist i call it interface lol... i mean kde/xfce/gnome
[05:44] <trappist> xwolf: gnome
[05:45] <xwolf> only?
[05:45] <the_mr_bong_show> lowman62 i can play it but it is so chopy how well can you play it
[05:45] <Psycho78m> does anyone know the command which tells me what video card i'm using?
[05:45] <conrad_> mcphail: cgoban.jar or cgoban.sh.in ?
[05:45] <trappist> the one you download only has gnome (afaik), so I assume it's the same for shipit
[05:45] <Psycho78m> it begins with an l
[05:46] <mcphail> conrad_: /usr/local/bin/cgoban (I would imagine)
[05:46] <k31th> Whats the ubuntu docs channel ?
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> its for GPs
[05:47] <xwolf> thanks trans__err
[05:47] <robotgeek> k31th: /j #ubuntu-doc
[05:47] <xwolf> wow, bad typo... thanks trappist ;P
[05:48] <Psycho78m> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:48] <Psycho78m> oh god
[05:49] <conrad_> mcphail: you genius!
[05:50] <k31th> anyone use bacula ?
[05:50] <occy> Is there a way to get Metacity to show you the size of the window when you resize it?
[05:50] <conrad_> mcphail: what a wicked imagination you have : 0
[05:51] <robotgeek> k31th: is it that backup tool? (i havent used it)
[05:51] <[g2] > running modrobe acpi failes iwth acpi_cpufreq .. "No such device" with Kubuntu and 2.6.12-9-696 on my gateway laptop
[05:51] <mcphail> conrad_: glad to help
[05:52] <conrad_> thx, cu
[05:52] <l3m> any ideas? the whole thing compiles fine on debian: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zQdex659.html
[05:53] <Psycho78m> i have a quick question for anyone interested in answering me: is identifying the video card's bus identifier a big step i seem to be skipping?  if so, how do i fnd this info out?
[05:54] <trappist> l3m: -fhonor-std
[05:55] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[05:56] <l3m> trappist: ok, i'll try.. thanks
[05:56] <ejofee> when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[05:56] <trappist> ejofee: single user should boot straight to /bin/sh, not a password prompt
[05:56] <trappist> or a login
[05:56] <eksajm> ejofee, use a live cd, chroot to the enviroment and use passwd?
[05:58] <l3m> trappist: same error
[05:58] <k31th> robotgeek: yes it is a backuptool
[05:59] <qaqa> Hello people!
[06:00] <Psycho78m> this is the ubuntu help channel, right?
[06:00] <greenpenguin13> probably
[06:00] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me how or where can i get a windows boot disk
[06:01] <Ng> bootdisk.com has DOS boot disks, if that's what you mean
[06:01] <qaqa> right now, only root can access the ntfs partition I have mounted. how do i allow ordinary users readonly access to it? (sudo chmod 555 didnt work)
[06:01] <Foodcoman> http://www.bootdisk.com
[06:01] <Foodcoman> Seriously
[06:01] <Foodcoman> =)
[06:02] <trappist> l3m: were those libs built locally or on the debian box (or elsewhere)?
[06:02] <bDerrly> qaqa, your /etc/fstab should look similar to this:
[06:02] <bDerrly> /dev/hda1       /win            ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222   0       0
[06:03] <l3m> trappist: on both machines, i got the .tar.bz2 from the internet, untarred it, ./bootstrap && ./configure && make
[06:03] <Mike_> i've solved my wireless issue!
[06:03] <Mike_> with 20m of ethernet cable
[06:03] <robotgeek> Mike_: aha
[06:03] <qaqa> bDerrly: would you mind explaining the options? ro=readonly. what does umask do?
[06:03] <trappist> l3m: http://www.ogre3d.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=91386#92168
[06:04] <ejofee> when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[06:04] <ejofee> how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[06:04] <l3m> trappist: i read that. so?
[06:04] <robotgeek> ejofee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:04] <l3m> trappist: i did run bootstrap
[06:05] <l3m> trappist: if the answer was in the ogre forum i'd have found it already, i read all related posts there.....
[06:05] <qaqa> bDerrly: I changed my fstab..I still cant access it without sudo
[06:06] <ejofee> robotgeek: cool! you read my mind, that's a very nice tutorial on wifi. what about my questions?
[06:06] <jordo23> bootstrap bill
[06:06] <cvt> how do i unstick a program?
[06:07] <jordo23> use lighter fluid
[06:07] <robotgeek> ejofee: which ones? the calculator ones?
[06:07] <eksajm> qaqa, you have to set premisions for he folder.. have you done that?
[06:07] <cvt> how do i update firefox?
[06:08] <qaqa> eksajm: well, so long as ntfs is mounted, I'm not able to chmod it
[06:08] <eksajm> well unmount it then, change premsions and mount again?
[06:08] <qaqa> eksajm: I changed the perms to 555 after unmounting. I mounted it again after that. No change
[06:08] <eksajm> kk ;/
[06:08] <eksajm> you cannot write to a ntfs partitions
[06:08] <ejofee> robotgeek: when booting single user, i can't login. it asks for a password, but there's none that would work. please help me.
[06:09] <ejofee> robotgeek: how do i run _from the command line, not from the menu_ the gui app which sets the network in ubuntu?
[06:09] <qaqa> eksajm: I dont want to write. Read access is enough
[06:09] <eksajm> not if ypu want to change the length of a file
[06:09] <eksajm> kk..
[06:09] <robotgeek> ejofee: first one, i don't know, second one iwconfig wlan0 <parameter>
[06:09] <eksajm> root can read but not ordianry users?
[06:09] <ejofee> robotgeek: heh, nice of you to remember that ejofee is the calculator gui :)
[06:10] <qaqa> eksajm: yes..
[06:10] <ejofee> robotgeek: what if my network is not wireless?
[06:10] <qaqa> eksajm: I think there is something wrong with the folder perms
[06:10] <ejofee> robotgeek: for instance, i am on a lan
[06:10] <disasm> hey, i'm trying to move a postgresql database from an unbootable ubuntu to another ubuntu machine, but I keep getting problems with pg_controldata
[06:10] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package?
[06:10] <robotgeek> ejofee: then ifconfig / dhclient
[06:10] <Orionoceros> can i take a minute of someone's time?
[06:10] <qaqa> eksajm: cuz konqy still lists it as a "locked folder" for ordinary users
[06:10] <ejofee> robotgeek: i know how to edit the text files, i just want to know some gui ubuntu apps which do the same
[06:11] <eksajm> qaqa, hum.. thats not suppose to happand ;) .. did you follow a guide to mount it ?
[06:11] <ejofee> robotgeek: nothing gui in ubuntu?
[06:11] <robotgeek> ejofee: network-admin?
[06:11] <qaqa> eksajm: no..ubuntu autoconfigured it upon install
[06:11] <ejofee> robotgeek: i need them for a friend of mine which is a newbye
[06:11] <ejofee> robotgeek: cool, thanks
[06:12] <robotgeek> ejofee: the gui is network-admin, you might want network-manager if you have wireless + lan together
[06:12] <eksajm> qaqa, oh, hum i might be the wrong person to help you. i am very new to ubuntu. i only used gnetoo linux
[06:12] <neopolitik> anyone know how to get the correct headers for my latest current kernel in ubuntu? (2.6.23-10)
[06:12] <qaqa> eksajm: Thanks anyway.
[06:12] <neopolitik> I can't find them in synaptic
[06:12] <robotgeek> neopolitik, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-
[06:12] <qaqa> eksajm: I changed the mount point to a diff dir and it works now! weirdness!
[06:12] <trappist> l3m: I'm trying to build it here.  I'll let you know how it goes.
[06:12] <robotgeek> neopolitik: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:13] <qaqa> eksajm: I think you were right about the folder perms then
[06:13] <eksajm> try to set them wit R option
[06:13] <eksajm> well it wont work
[06:13] <eksajm> since you cannt set perms
[06:14] <ejofee> robotgeek: i can't run anything like "network-admin" from a console... it simply can't find it on my machine
[06:14] <robotgeek> ejofee: are you looking for a gui tool, or a commandline tool, or asking me how to launch the gui tool from cli?
[06:15] <trappist> l3m: so far so good.  I'm thinking something very basic is missing, what with the undefined reference to `std::cout'
[06:15] <neopolitik> robotgeek: thanks! whats the $(uname -r) all about? does that get the current kernel version?
[06:15] <trappist> like maybe your g++ is symlinked to gcc or something
[06:15] <robotgeek> neopolitik: bash goodness, executes uname -r and puts it there, so you get the current headers
[06:15] <neopolitik> robotgeek: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[06:16] <ejofee> robotgeek: 3 -- "asking me how to launch _the ubuntu_ gui tool from cli"
[06:16] <neopolitik> it's like the kernel's too new or something
[06:16] <CarinArr> neopolitik, i have those exact headers installed
[06:16] <CarinArr> sothey should be there alright
[06:16] <neopolitik> wierd, eh?
[06:16] <robotgeek> ejofee: are you on ubuntu?
[06:16] <neopolitik> yup
[06:16] <ejofee> robotgeek: no
[06:16] <bungle> hi
[06:17] <robotgeek> ejofee: then?
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: i don't like ubuntu
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: i very much prefer kubuntu
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: and this is what i am using
[06:17] <robotgeek> ejofee: hmm, okay.
[06:17] <ejofee> robotgeek: but i thought kubuntu had the same tools
[06:17] <neopolitik> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://seveas.ubuntulin
[06:17] <neopolitik> that must be it, right?
[06:17] <typewriter> i got my ubuntu 5.10 cds just last week and I popped in the x86 install cd and it errored during the install
[06:17] <neopolitik> bad sources.list
[06:17] <robotgeek> neopolitik: the whole url is ubuntulinux.nl
[06:18] <mcphail> An undefined reference to std::cout is a problem with source, rather than compiler
[06:18] <staaka> i'm missing D-Bus i guess what do i need to do upgrade or update
[06:18] <neopolitik> robotgeek: I know, i just didn't paste it all in.. theres like 10 lines of output
[06:18] <robotgeek> neopolitik: pastebin :)
[06:18] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package? i would also like to offer this as a .deb
[06:19] <robotgeek> neopolitik: his repos might be down
[06:19] <staaka> having issues with trying to play streams with some media players and i get errors stating now compiled with D-Bus
[06:19] <mula`> hi
[06:19] <mula`> how can i enable mysql support in php5 /apache 2 ?
[06:19] <staaka> s/now/not/
[06:19] <aaronm67> I am using a dell inspiron 6000, and when I close the lid, the screen doesn't come back, I am forced to use the sleep button to put the computer to sleep, and then resume from sleep mode. Does anyone know how to make it just open and close? I had it working once before on a previous installation of Ubuntu, but I had to reinstall
[06:19] <mula`> nevermind, it works now
[06:20] <neopolitik> robotgeek, et al: http://pastebin.com/473296
[06:21] <neopolitik> i got my source.list from that ubuntu automatic source list generator site
[06:21] <robotgeek> neopolitik: hmm, can you pastebin that too?
[06:22] <neopolitik> nother question: could it be that I already have the correct header files, but I can't find them? cause maybe vmware and my self are just looking in the wrong place..
[06:22] <neopolitik> robotgeek: sure
[06:22] <robotgeek> neopolitik: unlikely
[06:22] <bur[n] er> oh crap, staaka, you may not be able to msg back without being registered to nickserv :\
[06:23] <bobbyd_> hi
[06:23] <typewriter> whats the lightest window manager
[06:23] <aaronm67> does anyone know how I can get the screen to come back after I close the lid of a dell inspiron 6000?
[06:23] <bungle> typewriter, i use fluxbox which is pretty lightweight
[06:24] <neopolitik> http://pastebin.com/473303
[06:24] <sethk> aaronm67, sure, hold the power button for five seconds, then reboot.  :)
[06:24] <neopolitik> robotgeek: ^
[06:24] <bobbyd_> I used a program a long time ago that was like dd but would retry multiple times on errors and would fill in a whole file from any parts that could be recovered. does anyone know what it's called? I used it for recovering data from a broken hard drive.
[06:24] <leagris> typewriter, its named ratpoison http://freshmeat.net/redir/ratpoison/8830/url_homepage/ratpoison
[06:24] <aaronm67> ok
[06:24] <MrRio> hey
[06:24] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package? i would also like to offer this as a .deb
[06:25] <Discipulus> aaronm67, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellLaptopSuspendFix?highlight=%28dell%29
[06:25] <leagris> emacs makes a quite very complette lightweight text desktop as well :)
[06:25] <sethk> refnumzx, ./configure --prefix=/usr
[06:25] <robotgeek> neopolitik: i can't see anything wrong with it, maybe you might want to comment out everything other than the main and try again?
[06:25] <Khisanth> emacs is not a lightweight anything!
[06:25] <MrRio> synaptic has started to freeze my machine, i cant restart X or switch to a tty
[06:25] <leagris> :)
[06:26] <robotgeek> no flamewars please :)
[06:26] <neopolitik> robotgeek: should I do an apt update list thing?
[06:26] <robotgeek> neopolitik: yes
[06:26] <aaronm67> haha, well, what I do now is I push the sleep button (fn + esc) and wake it up
[06:26] <MrRio> started happening since i turn on universe multiverse, from which i installed flash and acroread
[06:26] <refnumzx> sethk: what will that do?
[06:26] <leagris> For a lass edged desktop but stll lightweight, I liked to use windowmaker but ther are others
[06:27] <neopolitik> robotgeek: i'm going to try it from synaptic
[06:27] <aaronm67> Discipulus: thanks a lot for that link
[06:27] <robotgeek> neopolitik: not gonna matter, it uses apt :)
[06:27] <Discipulus> aaronm67, no problem
[06:28] <neopolitik> robotgeek: k. thought I'd mention it incase you'd tell me 'synaptic has it's own repo cache' or somesuchstuff
[06:28] <Sionide> whats the best software for torrenting with ubuntu ??
[06:28] <robotgeek> neopolitik: nah
[06:28] <bungle> good
[06:29] <aaronm67> Sionide: try azureus, azureus.sourceforge.net
[06:29] <Sionide> any others?
[06:29] <neopolitik> Sionide: I use azureus, but ubuntu comes with a simple gnome torrent app
[06:29] <Sionide> yeah thats the one giving me trouble(ish)
[06:30] <typewriter> use azureus, it's the shizzle
[06:30] <neopolitik> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/Release.gpg: Could not connect to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26), connection timed out
[06:30] <aaronm67> try another bittorrent client (abc)
[06:30] <leagris> Having user rated packages on the Ubuntu web or wiki that would be usefull to answer questions like, what is the best <insert package> for <insert purpose> :)
[06:30] <aaronm67> I believe it's also at sourceforge
[06:30] <neopolitik> robotgeek: if one repo fails to load, do the following ones still load?
[06:30] <robotgeek> neopolitik: should
[06:31] <Sionide> leagris, good idea, i'd be happy to rate the packages i use
[06:31] <typewriter> i <3 torrents
[06:31] <typewriter> im getting 6mbit down on ubuntu torrent
[06:32] <neopolitik> robotgeek: I got 3 repo erros
[06:32] <robotgeek> neopolitik: weird, just go with the main ones
[06:32] <neopolitik> others were that .nl site
[06:33] <robotgeek> neopolitik: seveas is probably sleeping, so his repo is down
[06:33] <aaronm67> when I enable the "resume" option in /boot/grub/menu.lst, what device does it hibernate to? my root, swap, or home partition. Currently, I have it set as root, and it doesn't do anything really
[06:33] <corresponder> hi
[06:33] <leagris> Sionide, I took the ideo from Mandriva that runs a package rating for club members. (My 5 yesrs long mandriva subscription ended this month though because I now prefer Ubuntu/Kubuntu) :)
[06:33] <Knorrie> hi
[06:33] <neopolitik> robotgeek: so just comment out seveas?
[06:34] <robotgeek> neopolitik: yes
[06:34] <bungle> leagris, I am a convert from mdk to ubuntu aswell
[06:35] <Foodcoman> bungle: Same here.
[06:35] <robotgeek> neopolitik: i think you missed a kernel upgrade or something
[06:35] <ubuntu> hi, i am using a live cd right now, is it possible to use my one cd drive now?
[06:35] <leagris> Bad times for Mandriva, because I know soo much who went from Mdk to Ubuntu in the last year
[06:35] <neopolitik> robotgeek: my sources.list was funky for a long time
[06:36] <angelx> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:37] <jbroome> angelx: don't do that
[06:37] <leagris> What made my choice is, packages dpeendencies and .deb installation is much much cleaner and faster to update than the rpm. Then Ubuntu brought a nice set of easy tools the old debin didn't have
[06:37] <angelx> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:37] <neopolitik> robotgeek: strange thing is, the day before yesterday, I tried installing vmplayer from vmware and it installed fine saying "vmmod loaded perfectly wiith your kernel, blah blah" but yesterday it didn't run, then when trying to reinstall, I got that headers not found error that I got a month or two ago when I tried to install vmware
[06:37] <leagris> old debian
[06:38] <jbroome> *plonk*
[06:38] <robotgeek> neopolitik: hmm, i dunno anything about vmware, sorry
[06:38] <refnumzx> i am trying to compile samba from source on ubuntu but i would like everything to go where the binary package installer places them libs, password files, etc.. how can i tell what build options were used on a binary package? i would also like to offer this as a .deb
[06:39] <cvt> i can't play any media files
[06:39] <cvt> any ideas/
[06:39] <erUSUL> !mp3
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:39] <ubuntu> cvt: install vlc player via synaptic
[06:39] <neopolitik> robotgeek: build-essential is already the newest version.
[06:39] <jenda> cvt: got codecs?
[06:39] <neopolitik> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[06:39] <ubuntu> it plays everything
[06:39] <cvt> not yet.
[06:39] <cvt> k, ubuntu
[06:40] <neopolitik> ubuntu: it doesn't play /everything/
[06:40] <Sionide> leagris, well it's a wiki so lets do it
[06:40] <cvt> i tried installing mplayer
[06:40] <leagris> refnumzx, if you are going to compile and install yourself without rebuilding ubuntu deb package. I storngly recommand to use the /usr/local path as base install and not the system path
[06:40] <nickrud> refnumzx, apt-get source <samba whatever package> , then look in debian/rules for build options
[06:40] <ubuntu> yeah, it won't play your piano at home, no
[06:40] <neopolitik> i've found it won't play some avi stuff for some reason
[06:41] <ubuntu> what codec is that avi neopolitik ?
[06:41] <Foodcoman> neopolitik: Automatix from the ubuntu forum is pretty slick for the media codecs.
[06:42] <jenda> !automatix
[06:42] <ubotu> I guess automatix is crap
[06:42] <neopolitik> ubuntu: dunno.. I found a bunch of non-free codecs on mplayer's site and now I can play pretty much everything else
[06:42] <jenda> Foodcoman: Do NOT recommend automatix... it is utter crap and breaks boxes
[06:42] <Foodcoman> jenda: fix my codec problems.   =)
[06:42] <vodnik> hello, when I compile something and the install it with sudo make install, is install to /usr/local/share - how do I uninstall it otherwise than by manually deleting those files?
[06:42] <jenda> Foodcoman: and destroy you setup.
[06:42] <jenda> *your
[06:42] <Foodcoman> jenda: 10-4 I wont recomend then.
[06:42] <ubuntu> yeah, can be, i usually only play mpeg4 aps files, so...
[06:42] <neopolitik> there's a replacement for automatix, i think
[06:43] <Foodcoman> jenda: on 64 bit?
[06:43] <cvt> i installed vlc player and tried to open an mp3 unsuccessfully.
[06:43] <Orionoceros> how do i play divx and mpegs and other formats?
[06:43] <erUSUL> vodnik,  by manually deleting those files, actually
[06:43] <jenda> Foodcoman: Last time I checked, it didn't support 64bit
[06:43] <nickrud> vodnik, if you're lucky, make uninstall will work (depends on whether or not the programmer wrote that part)
[06:43] <Amaranth> !mac
[06:43] <ubotu> Amaranth: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:43] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:43] <erUSUL> Orionoceros, w32codecs
[06:43] <erUSUL> !w32codecs
[06:43] <ubuntu> now i have a question: can i unmount the cd drive when using the live cd of ubuntu to copy some files from cd to hd?
[06:43] <Orionoceros> where would i find that?
[06:44] <Foodcoman> jenda: No matter, it did work on 2 desktops and 1 laptop for me.  Havent had any breakage using the 1.2.x version.
[06:44] <erUSUL> !tell Orionoceros about w32codecs
[06:44] <hmpedersen> Does anyone have experience in dualboot with xp and ubuntu.. When you install xp -after- ubuntu?
[06:44] <Foodcoman> I will let the experts recommend the safe method of getting all the codecs in.
[06:44] <Foodcoman> =)
[06:44] <jenda> Foodcoman: unfortunately, Seveas ain't here, so I'll have to explain this without support
[06:45] <Foodcoman> I trust you.
[06:45] <disasm> hmpedersen: you need to get back into ubuntu, and reinstall grub to the mbr
[06:46] <disasm> hmpedersen: if you have a live cd, try using the kernel on the live cd with parameter root=/dev/hdaX where hdaX is /
[06:46] <hmpedersen> disasm, can i use the live...
[06:46] <hmpedersen> u beat me to it..
[06:46] <vodnik> alright, I can live with that and next time I will try make uninstall (however, what if I have deleted the source code already, where can I issue this command from?)
[06:46] <erUSUL> ubuntu, you can try and force it
[06:46] <hmpedersen> Im not used to people answering my questions before i ask them.. thanx disasm :)
[06:46] <erUSUL> vodnik, untar it again
[06:47] <disasm> hmpedersen: no problem ;-)
[06:47] <refnumzx> where do source packages get installed?
[06:47] <seth_k|lappy> hmpedersen, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:47] <Foodcoman> disasm: is a mind reader
[06:47] <disasm> now if only i could answer my own questions, i'd be set ;-)
[06:48] <ubuntu> erUSUL, yes i better just try it. Is there a tool to unmount in ubuntu or do i have to do it via the shell?
[06:48] <erUSUL> ubuntu, via shell
[06:49] <jenda> Foodcoman: Automatix caused a lot of trouble, because the author got angry when someone tried to fork it to make it safer (because the author didn't let them fix it)... so there is now automatix (which it looked like was finaly gonna die) and it's brother - EasyBreezy... EasyBreezy (AKA Automatix NG) was the safer version of automatix, and it found and joined the team of EasyUbuntu... and took that name. The first joint version will be out _so
[06:49] <jenda> on_... so I can't really recommend it yet. I can, however give you a link to the last version of EasyBreezy, if you're interested.
[06:49] <jenda> !easybreezy
[06:49] <Foodcoman> jenda: Good news.  You have my vote.
[06:50] <jenda> ubotu, tell Foodcoman about easybreezy
[06:50] <Foodcoman> jenda: I am an easy sell.
[06:50] <neopolitik> what linux kernel is the latest breezy on?
[06:50] <vodnik> erUSUL:I see, easy enough, thanks.
[06:50] <no0tic> I'm trying to compile a tool that needs id3lib and I installed libid3-3.8.3-dev, but it doesn't work
[06:50] <hmpedersen> I could ofcourse allso just reinstall all.. THen id have a clean ubuntu aswell.. Been messin around a bit too much, i think
[06:50] <neopolitik> like, if my system is up to date with updates and stuff, what kernel should i have?
[06:50] <jenda> neopolitik: 2.6...
[06:50] <erUSUL> neopolitik, 2.6.12
[06:50] <neopolitik> 2.6.12-10?
[06:50] <jenda> 2.6.12
[06:51] <MoonRanger> ubotu, tell MoonRanger about easybreezy
[06:51] <no0tic> I've tried also libid3-dev with no avail
[06:51] <refnumzx> where do source packages get installed?
[06:51] <neopolitik> .  /src /usr/src
[06:51] <erUSUL> neopolitik, i do not know the exact compilation as i use custom 2.6.15-rc4
[06:52] <refnumzx> i looked there and no packages for the one i installed
[06:53] <no0tic> in dapper will transparency be present?
[06:53] <neopolitik> I have kernel 2.6.12-10 with headers of 2.6.12-9 and vmware's vmplayer errors on installation, saying "headers don't exactly match your kernel" but there's no -10 headers in the repository
[06:54] <cvt> where is the programs folder?
[06:54] <grogoreo> hi
[06:54] <coNP> cvt: what do you want with that?
[06:55] <obscenic> Salut amis
[06:55] <bDerrly> cvt, explain further...  there is /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin
[06:55] <cvt> coNP, i want to delete some useless searchpluggins to make room for more
[06:55] <disasm> i had my ubuntu hard drive die in my ubuntu amd64 laptop, I already was capable to get the whole file system copied over to my gentoo amd64 hard drive. I need to dump a database (postgresql) with client and invoice data. The data files are in /var/lib/postgresql/7.4/main/ I've tried running ubuntu in the chroot and i can't start postgresql with the error pg_ctl: cannot be run as root (running /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 start) I also have an
[06:55] <jenda> Foodcoman: no problem - do not be serprised if you meet someone with a different opinion, though :) (on IRC, it's us, on the forums, it's them)
[06:55] <ubuntu> erUSUL, you know the path i have to unmount for the live distribution of ubuntu?
[06:55] <kotatsu> anyone here using dapper with an ati card? is the r300 driver included and enabled?
[06:56] <coNP> cvt: what search plugins?
[06:56] <jenda> obscenic: salut. c'est un channeai anglais... ti peux aller a #ubuntu-fr su tu veux
[06:56] <kotatsu> disasm: I'm not certain, but it's likely that the postgres user doesn't exist on your system and it can't switch to something other than root... that would be my guess, anyway
[06:56] <erUSUL> ubuntu, no sorry jus umount via de device. run mount wo arguments and take a look
[06:56] <cvt> coNP, for firefox
[06:56] <disasm> kotatsu: i can su postgres fine, but I can't run it because you need to be root to run init scripts (catch 22)
[06:56] <obscenic> ah, oui! C'est cool!
[06:57] <obscenic> merci
[06:57] <Foodcoman> jenda: I am too old to battle, I leave that for the script kiddies.  Time and experience, especially those like yourself who are paying their dues supporting others is what matters to me.
[06:57] <kotatsu> disasm: and it's not switching itself to postgres' UID after starting?
[06:58] <Knowerrors> Anybody here help with vanilla kernel compiling on Ubuntu?
[06:58] <jenda> Foodcoman: The script kiddies are busy scripting... and since I don't script - I'll do the battle... (BTW, the battle is over, but there was a rather harsh one)
[06:58] <obscenic> jenda: l'anglais pour maintenant..
[06:58] <disasm> kotatsu: i think it might be a side affect of trying to start it in a chroot, it normally su's fine
[06:58] <kotatsu> disasm: if I understand your problem right you copied the old filesystem wholesale to the gentoo box and you're running it from there... what I would do would be to install postgres on the gentoo box and access your database from that
[06:58] <obscenic> It's my first language anyhow.
[06:59] <kotatsu> disasm: do you have proc, dev, and sys bound to the chroot?
[06:59] <jenda> Ah OK obscenic :)
[06:59] <erUSUL> disasm, and moving the data files to another postgres instalation (gentoo one)?
[06:59] <disasm> kotatsu: i have proc, what do i need to do for dev and sys?
[06:59] <Knowerrors> I just did build of 2.6.14.4, and am getting VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0), even though I built Reiser into root (*), any help please?
[06:59] <kotatsu> disasm: same thing, I've just noticed that programs will occasionally require access to one of the three
[06:59] <kotatsu> disasm mount -o bind
[07:00] <kotatsu> disasm: but again I would install postgres on the gentoo system and access the old dbs from there rather than trying to run your old installation
[07:00] <obscenic> An open question: noprobe as a kernel arg is not supported in Breezy. Does anyone know how to work around this and convince the kernel not to probe certain IDE's?
[07:00] <disasm> kotatsu: so mount -o bind /home/oldroot/ ???
[07:00] <vodnik> once more to compiling - is it possible to install something I self-compiled to the standard path where apt-get installs its stuff? would that mean I have to create an deb package using dpkg?
[07:00] <Foodcoman> jenda: You had a harsh one?  Tell me more......     =D
[07:01] <kotatsu> disasm: mount -o bind /proc /chroot/proc
[07:01] <kotatsu> disasm: and so on for /sys and /dev
[07:01] <hmpedersen> this makes no sense at all..
[07:01] <kotatsu> disasm: no idea if that's your problem but I've have some programs break in the past when they do stuff in those directories
[07:02] <kotatsu> disasm: it's possible it's choking on the su because it is missing something it's checking for, but then giving you the error message about su because that's the final effect
[07:02] <xiaogil> I can connect to a MS Access database with Open Office 2 Base, but how to make it a real Open Office 2 Base database ?
[07:02] <hmpedersen> Can ne1 tell me, why the live cd suddenly wont load with acpi=off.. Because it cant load the acpi modules?
[07:02] <disasm> kotatsu: su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[07:03] <korhalf> wow
[07:03] <kotatsu> disasm: not sure, I would have to see your system to get a better idea of what's going on... my suggestion is to do a fresh install of postgres on the gentoo root fs and read your dbs from there
[07:03] <kotatsu> disasm: gotta head out now though =)
[07:04] <bur[n] er> anyone have a sun java .deb package ready?
[07:04] <disasm> oh, maybe pam... hmmm how to start pam...
[07:04] <rosa> olaa
[07:06] <blanky> is there anything like ubuntu but for USB drives
[07:07] <blanky> i mean, usb drives as in those thumb drives not usb external HDs
[07:08] <StyXman> !pinning
[07:08] <ubotu> I guess pinning is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[07:08] <obscenic> bump ;) An open question: noprobe as a kernel arg is not supported in Breezy. Does anyone know how to work around this and convince the kernel not to probe certain IDE's?
[07:09] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[07:09] <ortner_> i need a copypaster, anyone got one+
[07:09] <StyXman> ortner_: pastebin.ca?
[07:10] <ortner_> StyXman: thansk
[07:13] <Stormx2> This is kind off-topic, but does anyone know of a freely available lyrics database which has an api in xml?
[07:13] <deltron> no clue
[07:15] <StyXman> Stormx2: you could take a look what does amarok for displaying lyrics
[07:15] <yoav> hey everyone
[07:15] <CosmoDad> how do I unpack a .deb?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> CosmoDad: file-roller?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> CosmoDad: unpack or install?
[07:16] <CarinArr> unpack or install?
[07:16] <CosmoDad> I tried dpkg -x but it lacks the debian control information...
[07:16] <yoav> anyone up for helping me with some godawful trouble?
[07:16] <CarinArr> snap;)
[07:16] <CosmoDad> CarinArr: unpack
[07:16] <Ahriman> Stormx2, do you mean something like http://lyrictracker.com/
[07:17] <CosmoDad> bur[n] er: unpack
[07:18] <bur[n] er> CosmoDad: file-roller will do it
[07:18] <Linuturk_work> error: adresses from (#ubuntu) not saved. (too many users) << ha, congrats
[07:18] <CosmoDad> bur[n] er: ok, thanks... thought I remembered using dpkg last time..
[07:18] <StyXman> yoav: let give it a try...
[07:18] <nickrud> CosmoDad, dpkg -x works on the command line
[07:19] <CosmoDad> nickrud: it won't include the debian/ dir, at least not on the skype package I'm trying to unpack
[07:19] <nickrud> CosmoDad, heh, I wrote that, read back, now I'm in the man page :)
[07:20] <Stormx2> Ahriman: I don't see any kinda API for that though >.<
[07:20] <yoav> ok. i'm trying to install the breezy monkey thing, and someone was helping me with going through the base installation and doing the rest from there, but i could not startx
[07:20] <Shadyman> Hey all.
[07:20] <yoav> if plasmoduck is out there he could probably explain some more
[07:20] <kotton136> afternoon and I have a question, new to ubuntu, and trying to install yahoo, have tried everything I have read but it isn't working. Any quick short cuts to this?
[07:21] <StyXman> yoav: in which step are ypu now?
[07:21] <nickrud> CosmoDad, according to man dpkg, dpkg -e is what you're looking for, I think
[07:21] <yoav> plasmoduck, you there?
[07:21] <CosmoDad> nickrud: that only extracts control data
[07:21] <Sh4d0x> *shadox went for dinner
[07:22] <yoav> styxman, not being able to configure the x server to startx
[07:22] <yoav> jsz?
[07:22] <Ahriman> Stormx2, aha ..now i understand what you want ..i continue my search :)
[07:22] <Stormx2> Ahriman: I'm looking too ;-)
[07:22] <StyXman> yoav: ah, the system is full up?
[07:22] <CosmoDad> nickrud: I want both
[07:22] <nickrud> CosmoDad, I think that the debian/ dir is only in the sources (been a while since I investigated that, so...) This is what I get for swooping into the channel and typing without thinking ;(
[07:23] <johnathan> hey
[07:23] <obscenic> whoa.
[07:23] <Stormx2> Eek. Netsplit
[07:23] <Shadyman> Oh wow.
[07:23] <obscenic> what happened?
[07:24] <Stormx2> netsplit methinks ^____^
[07:24] <seth_k|lappy> just a netsplit
[07:24] <Shadyman> heh. I love the internet :D
[07:24] <CosmoDad> nickrud: no the control data is part of every .deb, it contains stuff like dependencies
[07:24] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: how is it done for writing addresses in nautilus, rather than clicking icons and buttons?
[07:25] <yoav> can anyone help? styxman?
[07:25] <hmpedersen> DrZeus, ctrl+l
[07:25] <DrZeus> and which lines do I have to edit in xorg.conf for decreasing the speed of my touchpad?
[07:25] <DrZeus> hmpedersen: thnx
[07:25] <hmpedersen> DrZeus, np..
[07:25] <Eleaf> Dr_Acemaster, couldn't you just use the mouse preferences?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> DrZeus: hit ctrl-h
[07:26] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:26] <DrZeus> hmpedersen: btw do u know which lines are needed to edit in xorg.conf for lowering the speed of the cursor(or the sensitivity i dont know)?
[07:26] <hmpedersen> DrZeus, no sorry
[07:26] <thoreauputic> ctrl -l  sorry ( ctrl - h is for hidden files)
[07:26] <Eleaf> DrZeus, why not just edit it with the mouse preferences?
[07:26] <DrZeus> Eleaf: doesnt work
[07:26] <Eleaf> oh ok
[07:26] <korhalf> why not just use the terminal
[07:26] <Eleaf> are you using an ibook?
[07:27] <nickrud> CosmoDad, so, dpkg -e extracts control.tar.gz, right? and ./debian is from the source file I thought
[07:27] <DrZeus> Eleaf: is a toshiba satellite L10
[07:27] <Eleaf> oh
[07:27] <Eleaf> with my ibook, I couldn't really find anything that had to do with changing the touchpads sensitivity
[07:27] <Eleaf> I'm not sure though
[07:27] <Shadyman> Eleaf: I have the same thing.
[07:27] <nickrud> *source deb
[07:27] <CosmoDad> nickrud: try dpkg-deb -x on any binary package, it'll unpack a DEBIAN/ dir
[07:27] <Shadyman> Eleaf: It's way too touchy.
[07:28] <DrZeus> I manage to disable the click in the touchpad, but the sensitivity is a bit too much
[07:28] <yoav> hey styxman
[07:28] <hmpedersen> I must say.. hmm.. "Win__ _P Cl_eart__pe .." (windows xp cleartype technology makes it easier to read text on lcd monitors)
[07:28] <the_mr_bong_show> ok i got a real bad problem with my coms can some one help me
[07:28] <hmpedersen> too bad they didnt include that technology during install :P
[07:28] <Eleaf> DrZeus, I may have found something..
[07:28] <Eleaf> DrZeus, do you know if it is a synaptics touchpad?
[07:29] <CosmoDad> nickrud: sry -e
[07:29] <DrZeus> Eleaf: tell me
[07:29] <Shadyman> Eleaf: mine is
[07:29] <DrZeus> Eleaf: it is
[07:29] <Eleaf> ok
[07:29] <Eleaf> hold on..
[07:29] <Shadyman> Ok, dumb question. What's the default root password?
[07:29] <StyXman_> Shadyman: use sudo
[07:29] <hmpedersen> Shadyman there is none
[07:29] <DrZeus> is there a default root pwd?
[07:29] <DrZeus> not right?
[07:30] <Shadyman> oh
[07:30] <Shadyman> heh. su, right.
[07:30] <Eleaf> I'm not sure, this might do the same thing as the preference thing does
[07:30] <StyXman_> Shadyman: no, noy su, sudop
[07:30] <StyXman_> er, sudo*
[07:30] <hmpedersen> If you want one, just "sudo passwd root"
[07:30] <Shadyman> ok
[07:30] <thoreauputic> !tell Shadyman about root
[07:30] <walkingice> DrZeus: sudo su
[07:30] <StyXman_> Shadyman: it will ask your passwd
[07:30] <Eleaf> DrZeus, open a terminal and type xset m 1 4   (the last 4 means 4x sensitivity, set that to whatever)
[07:30] <Eleaf> That may work
[07:30] <DrZeus> walkingice: wha?
[07:31] <nickrud> sorsap, dpkg -e on dictionaries-common_0.62.5_all.deb got me conffiles, config, control, md5sums, postinst, postrm, preinst, prerm, and templates
[07:31] <DrZeus> let me type that(im in win right now)
[07:31] <Eleaf> oh ok
[07:31] <Shadyman> thoreauputic: Thanks for the info.
[07:31] <hmpedersen> oh.. install is waitin for input after 12 minutes.. Got that far in 1 minute the other day on pc..
[07:31] <nickrud> CosmoDad, ^^^, sorry sorsap
[07:31] <yoav> startx
[07:31] <thoreauputic> Shadyman: no worries :)
[07:31] <CosmoDad> nickrud: np
[07:31] <Shadyman> thoreauputic: I'm switching over from Fedora, at least temporarily.
[07:31] <DrZeus> Eleaf: thats for synaptics touchpads speciffically
[07:31] <Shadyman> thoreauputic: I like ubuntu better because it likes my laptop
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Shadyman: aha - well sudo is default in Ubuntu
[07:32] <the_mr_bong_show> does any one here know any thing about the battory in the pc
[07:32] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: hi there :)
[07:33] <Eleaf> DrZeus, did that not work?
[07:33] <hmpedersen> I hate installing xp.. The worst OS ever (after all those that are worse)
[07:33] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: I disagree, I think all other windows before it are worst, windows xp is just worse.
[07:34] <chapium> windows is fine
[07:34] <s^off> windows is fine as long as you don't use it ...
[07:34] <hmpedersen> Shadyman, thats what i said.. XP is the worst system ever.. As long as you dont count those, that are worse than XP..
[07:34] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: I like xp though because of its large built-in driver database, but bad because of kernel bloat.
[07:34] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: Oh, i thought you meant the other way around ;D
[07:35] <hmpedersen> heh :P
[07:35] <chapium> the things that annoy me about XP i hardly see on a home machine
[07:35] <DrZeus> Eleaf: I have to boot to ubuntu to check; give me a sec
[07:35] <Eleaf> ok
[07:35] <taojah> hello, i am playing .mp4 video files on vlc player in kde but there is no audio, can anyone help me please??
[07:36] <mp3guy> hi, i'm having  BIG /dev/dsp problems
[07:36] <yoav> a masochist required for a some really nasty problem solving
[07:36] <Sh4d0x_eating> hmpedersen, euhm i quote "xp is the worst" and "those are worse than xp" euhm if xp is the worst  than it can come more worse he :D
[07:37] <mp3guy> basically, if i set audacity recording from the vol line, flash applets in firefox no longer have sound. sound no longer works in firefox until i restart it, anyway around this?
[07:37] <Shadyman> Sh4d0x_eating: That's what I thoguht :P
[07:37] <bobbyd> hi
[07:37] <hmpedersen> Sh4d0x, No.. There is nuffin worse than xp.. Except for all the stuff thats worse than xp :P
[07:38] <korhalf> Is it possible to use Ethereal or tcpdump to surveil the network traffic coming from a certain host on my network?
[07:38] <bobbyd> does the ubuntu live CD run an ssh server by default?
[07:38] <Shadyman> korhalf: Ethereal can, you have to use filters though
[07:38] <korhalf> say for isntance, im 192.168.0.100 and the other host is 192.168.0.200
[07:38] <korhalf> Shadyman, can you direct me to an article or something that explains it?
[07:38] <chapium> bobbyd: I think it might.  You must set up a user for it thought
[07:38] <Shadyman> korhalf: hmmm, not sure. I was just speaking out of experience ;)
[07:38] <hmpedersen> brb
[07:38] <Sh4d0x_eating> shadyman, xp is nice, but it's to buggy, rather prefer ubuntu (half working) then windows bluescreens
[07:38] <xiaogil> how to get help on open office 2 base ?
[07:39] <korhalf> Shadyman, oh
[07:39] <nguyen> can some help me? i'm new. I'm trying to launch the command sh ./runLime.sh but i don't know where to open or what to do?
[07:39] <zacch> hi! I'm trying to set up the A+ environment for APL programming and apt-got aplus-fsf and related packages, but I have trouble with the fonts: apt-get install xfonts-kapl installed a few font files into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc (they are the only one there now), but I apparently can't access them! what to do?
[07:39] <mh166> Hi guys
[07:39] <chapium> Sh4d0x_eating: I've only seen winXP bluescreen when I do something stupid
[07:39] <mh166> What can I do if ./configure tells me that "/lib/cpp" failed the sanity check?
[07:39] <mh166> http://upload.webdev-solutions.de/auto/error
[07:39] <apokryphos> mh166: install build-essential
[07:39] <Shadyman> Sh4d0x_eating: I've never seen a windowsxp bluescreen on my laptop.
[07:39] <nguyen> can some help me? i'm new. I'm trying to launch the command sh ./runLime.sh but i don't know where to open or what to do?
[07:39] <mh166> apokryphos oO
[07:40] <Linuturk_work> Shadyman, like when you use windows?
[07:40] <korhalf> nguyen, chmod a+x runLime.sh and then run it
[07:40] <Linuturk_work> :-P
[07:40] <Shadyman> Linuturk_work: Yeah. :P
[07:40] <mh166> is this a package I can get using apt-get or what do you mean?
[07:40] <chapium> Sh4d0x_eating: like pull the power while its loading, touch something i'm not supposed to on the inside of teh computer, install faulty hardware, etc
[07:40] <Sh4d0x_eating> shadyman, i had to format my laptop 9 x a month some driver gave conflicts resulting in bluescreen, worst, no errors in logbook
[07:40] <Shadyman> chapium: Though, I love the STOP_EXCEPTION BSOD's that i got on my old motherboard/cpu combo
[07:40] <ubuntu> kois there a way to open the cd drive when using the ubuntu live cd?
[07:40] <korhalf> Can anyone help me set up Ethereal to see what incoming and outgoing traffic is happening ona  host on my LAN?
[07:40] <mp3guy> any idea on the flash dsp problem
[07:40] <Shadyman> Microsoft was all like "it's normal"
[07:41] <Shadyman> worst part was, it was only with XP SP1 and up.
[07:41] <DrZeus> got to go Eleaf: will try it and get back here to show the results
[07:41] <apokryphos> mh166: correct
[07:41] <DrZeus> thnx for the hint
[07:41] <chapium> Shadyman: you called microsoft?  That must have been expensive
[07:41] <apokryphos> mh166: fire up synaptic and select/install it
[07:41] <Shadyman> chapium: Nope, google.
[07:41] <Shadyman> chapium: Microsoft isn't worth calling.
[07:41] <mh166> k thx. I'll try it out
[07:41] <chapium> Shadyman: ah
[07:41] <mh166> another question: is therre any ICQ command line client?
[07:41] <Shadyman> chapium: They do no beta testing, and just dump their software on the market.
[07:42] <Shadyman> chapium: Then expect everyone to do the beta testing :P
[07:42] <jenda> How does one mount a removable drive if it wasn't detected automatically?
[07:42] <chapium> sounds like a few other os's i know
[07:42] <Shadyman> chapium: Yeah. windows xp... 98... 95... ME...
[07:42] <LoppApan> mh166: check out centericq
[07:43] <mh166> thx
[07:43] <chapium> ME...
[07:43] <LoppApan> mh166: or bitlbee on testing.bitlbee.net if you like irc and want icq and msn in your ircprogram
[07:43] <Falstius> jenda: generally "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/removable"
[07:43] <Falstius> You need to create the directory "/media/removable" first.
[07:43] <mh166> LoppApan n1. guess I'll try this first :)
[07:43] <LoppApan> mh166: well. ok
[07:44] <hmpedersen> Now.. If this laptop could boot from usb, then that woulda made this installation alot easier!
[07:44] <jenda> Falstius k thx
[07:44] <mh166> and a last q: how can I create a runlevel where multi user mode is activated but just console. and more than just 1 console as it is the case in level 1
[07:44] <CarinArr> is there a special reason why the nvidia drivers available through synaptic are such an old version?
[07:44] <hmpedersen> As i have my fully updated install dvd ready!
[07:44] <D1> Ubuntu on an inspiron 6000!! awesome stuff
[07:44] <Falstius> jenda: and the drive might be /dev/sda or /dev/sdb  or /dev/sdc etc.  Or it might not be loaded because you are missing a driver.  Check that you can see when you type "cat /dev/scsi/scsi"
[07:45] <trappist> D1: works great on mine
[07:45] <LoppApan> mh166: why not just stop gdm from starting?
[07:45] <CarinArr> works fantastically on my inspiron 8200
[07:45] <D1> trappist: did you get suspend to ram working?
[07:45] <D1> mine doesnt wake up
[07:45] <LoppApan> mh166: that would give you that effect
[07:45] <ubuntu> can i unmount the ubuntu live cd? when i  sudo umount /cdrom/
[07:45] <ubuntu> umount: i get:  /cdrom/: device is busy
[07:45] <trappist> D1: never tried.  I'm pretty much always powered.
[07:45] <yoav> hey everyone: is it worth the godamn trouble?
[07:45] <D1> ah I see
[07:46] <jenda> Falstius: no such file and directory
[07:46] <Falstius> yoav: yes.  It is really easier.
[07:46] <mh166> LoppApan how? sry I just changed from SuSE to Ubuntu (SuSE was too much like a wizzard ;)
[07:46] <mevvis> eject -am
[07:46] <LoppApan> mh166: apt-get install rcconf
[07:46] <jenda> Falstius: Hmm... it's not detected... but it gets power
[07:46] <LoppApan> mh166: then run rcconf and remove gdm
[07:46] <yoav> good. cause it will have to give me a blow job to make up for this
[07:46] <Falstius> jenda: what is it?
[07:46] <hmpedersen> yoav, if you mean windows, then no.. If you mean ubuntu, then HELL YES!
[07:46] <mh166> LoppApan thx for your help :)
[07:46] <LoppApan> mh166: that's an easy way to remove gdm from starting up
[07:47] <jenda> Falstius: A 40 Gig "External Drive Enclosure"
[07:47] <mh166> I'll try it out now. cu
[07:47] <LoppApan> mh166: but, U could also install ubuntu server and don't get X if that's what you want
[07:47] <LoppApan> mh166: good luck
[07:47] <yoav> ubuntu indeed
[07:47] <Sh4d0x> hmpederson, lol
[07:47] <ubuntu> mevvis, that worked!
[07:47] <mh166> well, actually I still need X. But I'm trying to get to the point where it is useless for me ;)
[07:48] <mh166> I like the console much more :D
[07:48] <mevvis> aha
[07:48] <yoav> hmpedersen, ubuntu guves head?
[07:48] <mevvis> mh use man command and man -k
[07:48] <Shadyman> yoav: Whoa.
[07:48] <Falstius> jenda: it is probably misconfigured then.  I assume there is a harddrive in the enclosure, you should check that it is plugged in all the way, that it is set as "master" or "cable select (CS)" with the jumper on the back of the drive, and that the drive size is compatible with the enclosure.  Some don't like big drives, some don't like small drives.
[07:48] <Eleaf> cafuego,
[07:49] <Shadyman> Fuego!
[07:49] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: Say whaaa?
[07:49] <Eleaf> Is anybody familiar with nfs?
[07:49] <jenda> Falstius: K, it's not mine - a frend wants some data from my PC, but I suppose it normally works for him...
[07:49] <Eleaf> First I'll try restarting... It'll probably work then..
[07:49] <hmpedersen> Shadyman: "whaaa?"
[07:50] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: Installing Xp soy ou can install ubuntu?
[07:50] <Falstius> jenda: most "just work".
[07:50] <hmpedersen> Shadyman, installing xp, so i can have a dual boot system..
[07:50] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: Ahh
[07:50] <jenda> Falstius: Yeah I know. Never had this before. There are no buttons or switches on it... it's plugged.
[07:50] <hmpedersen> Cant very well install ubuntu on the same box at the same time..
[07:51] <Falstius> jenda: try a different USB port.  It is 2.5" drive?
[07:51] <Falstius> are you using a laptop or desktop?
[07:51] <jenda> Falstius: Desktop, and yes, it's 2.5
[07:51] <yoav> they should hand out blowjob coupons along with the instalation cd, so people could relax afterwards
[07:51] <yoav> have some relief
[07:51] <hmpedersen> I dont understand.. This shouldnt happen!
[07:52] <nghia> Can anyone help me with a floppy disk problem?
[07:52] <hmpedersen> Xp shouldnt be able to boot at all!
[07:52] <Falstius> jenda: if it has an external power adapter you could try using it.  not all usb ports are created equal (which is why those drives have an "optional" power supply)
[07:52] <nghia> Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:52] <Sh4d0x> hmpedersen, like your words :D
[07:53] <jenda> Falstius: I see... I don't have an adapter. But it seems to have enough power (it stopped blinking when I plugged the power in
[07:53] <nguyen> can some help me? i'm new. I'm trying to launch the command sh ./runLime.sh but i don't know where to open or what to do?
[07:53] <hmpedersen> Sh4d0x, this laptop has some minor malfunctions in the ram.. I got it for free because i couldnt get xp to load!
[07:53] <hmpedersen> And yet.. Here i am.. At hte xp desktop.. Fully loaded!
[07:54] <Shadyman> yay
[07:54] <Falstius> jenda: it might have enough power for the usb electronics but not the drive.  It might just not be supported.
[07:54] <Linuturk_work> blasphymy!!
[07:54] <Linuturk_work> :-P
[07:54] <nguyen> can some help me? i'm new. I'm trying to launch the command sh ./runLime.sh but i don't know where to open or what to do?
[07:54] <hmpedersen> ofcourse.. My boss told me to install home.. I allways use pro.. Maybe pro compensates better for the malfunctions..
[07:54] <Sh4d0x> hmpederson o_O for free
[07:55] <polpak> nguyen, applications->accessories->terminal
[07:55] <hmpedersen> Sh4d0x, old laptop..
[07:55] <jenda> Falstius: Hmm... so I'll try switching them around a bit.
[07:55] <hmpedersen> Thinkpad A22e
[07:55] <Sh4d0x> hmpederson, hmm i'll send you mine :D
[07:55] <nguyen> so after i go to terminal put in those lines???
[07:55] <matw> I'm trying to figure out how much space to put in partitions. Anyone, know where MYSQL puts things?
[07:56] <hmpedersen> Sh4d0x, im not an american, u know.. Its pedersen, not pederson
[07:56] <Shadyman> matw: Wherever you tell it to
[07:56] <nguyen> polpak so after i open that i put in those lines?
[07:56] <matw> by default?
[07:56] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: I know a pedersen, folks call him Peterson all the time
[07:56] <polpak> nguyen, yes, the terminal is where you type the commands for the tutorial
[07:56] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: It bugs the heck outta him
[07:56] <mp3guy> audacity is giving me "error while opening sound device. please check the input device settings and the project sample rate" how do i fix this'/
[07:56] <Falstius> matw: usually /var
[07:56] <nguyen> polpak. alright thanks alot.. i appreciate it
[07:56] <Sh4d0x> hmpedersen, :$ sry, *son types easier :$:D i'm neither american :)
[07:57] <hmpedersen> this is what i hate most about xp.. It -demands- you create a useraccount!
[07:57] <hmpedersen> I -only- use Admin account!
[07:57] <Shadyman> hmpedersen: ROFL
[07:58] <hmpedersen> I mean..
[07:58] <hmpedersen> I have to boot into failsafe and delete the user!
[07:58] <Shadyman> heh
[07:58] <matw> Ok, if I give /var a separate partition (web, MysqL) and separate home what's a comfortable level to leave for / ? Right now I've got a 15 G / that uses only 1.6 GB.
[07:58] <YoManWazap> nguyen- r u trying to install LimeWire?
[07:58] <Falstius> what's the point of having a user account when the users have admin privileges?
[07:58] <hmpedersen> Thats one of the reasons i made that install dvd in the first place.. Unattended install
[07:58] <mp3guy> audacity is giving me "error while opening sound device. please check the input device settings and the project sample rate" how do i fix this?
[07:59] <polpak> matw, I've got a 5 gig partition for ubuntu and am only using half
[07:59] <Falstius> matw: I have an 8g / with a full chroot insteled and there are still over 4 gb free
[07:59] <Eleaf> hi
[07:59] <Falstius> but 6-8gb will leave you enough room to never have to worry about room.
[07:59] <Eleaf> Is anybody familiar with nfs?  ?
[07:59] <Sh4d0x> mp3guy, i got the same error :(
[07:59] <matw> Ok, looks like I can cut back comfortably
[07:59] <hmpedersen> Polpak, how? I easily use 60gb in a week!
[08:00] <polpak> hmpedersen, in your root partition?
[08:00] <polpak> hmpedersen, I've got about that much used in /home
[08:00] <Sh4d0x> hmpedersen, o_O 60gb??
[08:00] <Falstius> Eleaf: it is the pain in the diodes on my left side.
[08:00] <hmpedersen> Yes.. 60gb..
[08:00] <polpak> hmpedersen, but / only uses like 2.5 gig
[08:00] <Shadyman> OK, fun question time. How do you edit a read only file?
[08:00] <hmpedersen> I work with video and graphical design, remember :P
[08:00] <polpak> Shadyman, sudo gedit file
[08:00] <matw> maybe hmpedersen doesn't have separate home and var partitions
[08:01] <Shadyman> polpak: Thx
[08:01] <hmpedersen> polpak, i only have / and swap
[08:01] <hmpedersen> well.. at the moment i only have C..
[08:01] <polpak> hmpedersen, well I have /home on a separate partition
[08:01] <Eleaf> Falstius, are you familiar with helping me with it? = p
[08:01] <Falstius> hmpedersen: icky.  What do you do when you want to install 3 different os all with the same userbase :)
[08:01] <hmpedersen> polpak, maybe thats a reason
[08:01] <matw> that's what I had, until a sysadmin told me to keep root separate (avoids system catastrophe)
[08:02] <hmpedersen> Falstius, i dont
[08:02] <Shadyman> Is there a way to make some kind of sudo check a context menu option in gnome?
[08:02] <Falstius> matw: seperate /var /tmp /home and /boot
[08:03] <Falstius> if you're really anal, /usr/local and /usr
[08:03] <Falstius> and then mount / read only.
[08:03] <matw> Falstius; that's what I'm up to. Just trying to size things properly
[08:03] <hmpedersen> Jeez.. I cant believe im doing this only to prove to those scumbags, the netcard they sold me is malfunctioning!
[08:03] <JFlash> can i use   the *rpm* command in ubuntu?
[08:03] <matw> falstius, good suggestion read only for root, but I guess you  have to change that if you install new packages
[08:03] <Shadyman> jflash: You can get an addon package I think that does rpm's
[08:03] <yatesy> rpm sucks
[08:03] <hmpedersen> JFlash, you would use alien
[08:03] <JFlash> i downloaded a .rpm package and dunno how to install it
[08:04] <grogoreo> hi
[08:04] <Falstius> matw: yup.  I don't bother.
[08:04] <jenda> JFlash: alien pack.rpm
[08:04] <yoav> god grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change, courage to change the things i can, wisdom to know the difference, and a bullet in the head whenever i try installing some 3rd world os i know dick about
[08:04] <psycose> JFlash, could you find an equivalent Ubuntu package ?
[08:04] <jenda> JFlash: first "sudo apt-get install alien"
[08:04] <Falstius> Eleaf: sorry, didn't mean to ignore you.  I can only help you with nfs if it is really really easy.
[08:04] <Shadyman> yoav: omg rofl
[08:04] <matw> falstius, "Idon't bother" does that mean you install onto a read only file system?
[08:05] <jenda> yoav: lol
[08:05] <Falstius> I don't bother to mount / read only.
[08:05] <matw> Ok, thanks
[08:05] <grogoreo> I need to reinstall Ubuntu on my computer, but I don't have the breezy CD. I'm on my dads laptop and was wondering if there was a way to boot from the network or install from ftp using my dads laptop? Bearing in mind that his laptop does not have a floppy drive. Any ideas?
[08:05] <Shadyman> burn a breezy cd?
[08:06] <grogoreo> I have a Hoary disc, but don't want to have to install it twice. Dist upgrade didn't work laste time
[08:06] <yoav> shadyman, whats that?
[08:06] <Eleaf> Falstius, I got it working again!
[08:06] <grogoreo> oh yes, I forgot to mention I have no CD's! :-(
[08:06] <Shadyman> yoav: For grogoreo :)
[08:06] <hmpedersen> You all wana know something?
[08:06] <hmpedersen> This netcard that was doing no good in ubuntu..
[08:06] <Shadyman> grogoreo: You could try netbooting, dunno how to do it though.
[08:06] <Eleaf> Does anybody know why a router would change from 192.168.1.xxx to 192.168.45.xxx ??
[08:06] <hmpedersen> Its working perfectly in xp pro :(
[08:06] <Shadyman> Eleaf: If something's using 192.168.1.x
[08:06] <grogoreo> Shadyman, Yeah that's what I was thinking and I don't know how either
[08:07] <Eleaf> Shadyman, what else would be using that?
[08:07] <Falstius> Eleaf: it is an unsecured wireless router and one of your neighbors has a sense of humor.
[08:07] <Falstius> ?
[08:07] <Eleaf> I didn't add anything
[08:07] <matw> eleaf: are you assigned a dynamic IP by your ISP?
[08:07] <Eleaf> Falstius, lol
[08:07] <Discipulus> is there a chm reader in Ubuntu?
[08:07] <Eleaf> matw, It's a weird setup, it goes from the internet, to a wireless router, then to this hub
[08:07] <Falstius> matw: he's talking about the local ip address assigned by the router (192.168) not a global ip address from an ISP.
[08:08] <matw> OK
[08:08] <Eleaf> My isp may be dynamic, I'm not sure
[08:08] <yoav> shadyman, grogoreo? a new cough syrup?
[08:08] <Eleaf> but it's the hub that changed
[08:08] <Shadyman> yoav: Apparently.
[08:08] <psycose> JFlash, usually you convert the .rpm package in a .deb using alien as the last issue..., first you could search the official repositories http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:08] <korhalf> no one knwos how to use ethereal :(
[08:08] <trappist> Discipulus: sudo apt-get install chmlib-bin
[08:08] <korhalf> i cant spy on my brothe lol
[08:08] <korhalf> brother*
[08:08] <trappist> Discipulus: or xchm
[08:09] <grogoreo> another quick question whilst I'm here. I was installing Windows XP (for other programs) and there was a power cut right through formatting the drive in the installer. Will this have mucked up my hard drive?
[08:09] <Eleaf> just one day it changed it's ip assigning and threw off all my nfs settings and firewall settings and stuff
[08:09] <Falstius> korhalf: ethereal is really easy to use.
[08:09] <korhalf> Falstius, i cant figure out how to filter the traffic to a certain host on my LAN
[08:09] <trappist> grogoreo: shouldn't have caused physical damage, but it probably left you with an unusable filesystem
[08:09] <Eleaf> grogoreo, you could probably just reformat and try again and it should be fine
[08:09] <korhalf> it should be "host 10.0.0.171" or whatever the ip is
[08:09] <korhalf> that should be the capture filter
[08:10] <Shadyman> grogoreo: Yeah, you can always reformat
[08:10] <JFlash> jenda, thanks that worked  but...
[08:10] <grogoreo> trappist, good! My linux partitons will be ok then. It just says it couldn't find an operating system, which is weid because i don't know if windows messed with the MBR
[08:10] <JFlash> i still get a deb that will do pretty much nothing upon double click
[08:10] <korhalf> these earbud headphones hurt..
[08:10] <korhalf> but seriously, ethereal, i cant get it working :(
[08:11] <Eleaf> ethereal kinda confuses me too
[08:11] <gundu> hi
[08:11] <jenda> JFlash: sudo dpkg -i thing.deb
[08:11] <hmpedersen> Well.. Im gonna give it a few days, before i reinstall ubuntu.. Just to see how the box handles itself with xp.. It would run for weeks in ubuntu without reboot, without problem..
[08:12] <JFlash> psycose, yea, it's really frustrating that synapse runs a bunch of dialogs and windows and tells me the application was intalled when it never was. really lame
[08:12] <hmpedersen> same as my pc in xp..
[08:12] <pozdiy> would like to install the driconf package from DEbian Unstable , but it requires python << 2.4, I have both python 2.4 and 2.3 installed, how to tell dpkg to use python 2.3?
[08:12] <korhalf> pozdiy, you can uninstall the newer version.
[08:12] <korhalf> pozdiy, then dpkg has no choice but to refer to python 2.3
[08:13] <dbernar1> Is gimpshop proprietary, and if not, is it in Ubuntu?
[08:13] <pozdiy> korhalf, it takes with is gnome and xchat
[08:13] <korhalf> pozdiy, purge it
[08:13] <gundu> plugged in my bluetooth dognel but nothing happes and my kbtobexclient dont shows my mobile phone when i search it, how can i check if the usb dongle works ?
[08:13] <korhalf> pozdiy, thats a good way to break a system tho :( lol
[08:13] <korhalf> gundu, test it on windows.
[08:13] <pozdiy> korhalf, yes, so i'd like to avoid removing half of the system
[08:14] <gundu> have no windows
[08:14] <korhalf> pozdiy, find another program.
[08:14] <korhalf> gundu, you have no windows machines in your house?
[08:14] <pozdiy> korhalf, OK thanks
[08:14] <gundu> no windows machines where i have access
[08:14] <korhalf> pozdiy, what are you trying to install thats using a deprecated version of python anyway
[08:15] <psycose> JFlash, if synaptic told you a package is installaled and it was not, then it's a bug, (but i don't think it really happen) if you want to investigate further i can assist you ...
[08:15] <korhalf> gundu, well then, i dont know of another way to test if the dongle is still functional
[08:15] <MoonRanger> would vmware allow me to switch from linux to windows xp and reverse without rebooting my computer
[08:15] <markive> hi guys
[08:15] <pozdiy> anybody knows of analog of debian's driconf on Ubuntu?
[08:15] <Eleaf> dbernar1, 'gimpshop' isn't proprietary
[08:15] <Sh4d0x> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu, only the kde gnome environment?
[08:15] <ortner_> a compiler for "C" ?
[08:15] <korhalf> Sh4d0x, yes.
[08:15] <korhalf> ortner_, gcc
[08:15] <Eleaf> Sh4d0x, yes
[08:15] <Eleaf> I said yes too! yay
[08:15] <dbernar1> Eleaf: is it in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <korhalf> Eleaf, w00t
[08:15] <Eleaf> dbernar1, Gimp is in Ubuntu
[08:15] <_jason> ortner_, install the build-essential package if you wish to compile
[08:15] <Eleaf> not gimpshop
[08:16] <JFlash> well anyways, i got this on terminal using dpkg
[08:16] <psycose> Sh4d0x well we could say that the only different is the default Graphic env., you can use KDE on Ubuntu .. and vis versa ...
[08:16] <JFlash> Unpacking realplayer (from realplayer_10.0.6.776-20050916_i386.deb) ...
[08:16] <JFlash> Setting up realplayer (10.0.6.776-20050916) ...
[08:16] <dbernar1> Eleaf: any clues on how to install?
[08:16] <Eleaf> gimpshop is just gimp with a few changes to make it look a little different
[08:16] <JFlash> but now i  cannot see the software listed?
[08:16] <dbernar1> so I hear.
[08:16] <dbernar1> or read rather,
[08:16] <korhalf> i dont like gimp too much :(
[08:16] <woz> hey, is it possible to have a newer kernel version installed automatically?
[08:16] <markive> anyonr know how to stop ubuntu from trying to connect to ntp.time.ubuntu at boot  , takes ages then fails  , any ideas?
[08:16] <korhalf> woz, yes, apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade should do it.
[08:16] <woz> like how do i get the more "unstable" kernel releases?
[08:16] <korhalf> markive, remove ntpd
[08:16] <Eleaf> dbernar1, do you want to install gimpshop instead of gimp?
[08:16] <Sh4d0x> psycose hmm conclusion, no really differences
[08:16] <jsz> hello
[08:17] <korhalf> markive, or go to services and turn off the NTP service.
[08:17] <jsz> I get this error when I startx... fatal io error 104(connection reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[08:17] <pozdiy> how to force dpkg to install package even with missing dependencies?
[08:17] <markive> korhalf
[08:17] <jsz> I think it's to do with elibs
[08:17] <korhalf> System > administration > Services
[08:17] <markive> korhalf thanks
[08:17] <korhalf> np
[08:17] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i tell what type of bios i have without restarting
[08:17] <woz> korhalf, right, it says im all up t odate with kernel 2.6.12 or something
[08:17] <ortner_> when im using gcc comando /usr/bin/ld:wine-wow_fixes.patch: file format not recognized; treating as linker script
[08:17] <psycose> Sh4d0x, yes ;-)
[08:17] <ortner_> /usr/bin/ld:wine-wow_fixes.patch:1: parse error
[08:17] <JFlash> psycose, still there?
[08:17] <korhalf> markive, if it fails it means you don't have internet set up right or something :(
[08:17] <ortner_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:17] <korhalf> woz, yes, thats' correct
[08:17] <psycose> JFlash, yes
[08:18] <markive> korhalf will it stop that service?
[08:18] <woz> korhalf, can i get it to install 2.6.13?
[08:18] <korhalf> woz, you don't need to be bleeding edge with the kernel
[08:18] <korhalf> woz, do you need 2.6.13
[08:18] <korhalf> mind you theres .15 out
[08:18] <korhalf> markive, yes it will, if you uncheck it
[08:18] <woz> korhalf, i agree, but otherwise i have to aply a patch
[08:18] <JFlash> i used sudo dpkg -i  but i cant see the program listed
[08:18] <woz> korhalf, yeah
[08:18] <psycose> JFlash, well i think your realplayer binary have been installed in a path that is not known in your system binaries paths ...
[08:18] <woz> korhalf, how would i get .15 then?
[08:18] <korhalf> woz, you can always compile your own, but honestly its not worth it
[08:18] <bDerrly> markive, you could try moving the startup sequence to the end, that may give your net connection enough time to initiate by the time ntpd tries to hit tht net
[08:19] <korhalf> woz, why do you need to update the kernel?
[08:19] <_jason> JFlash, dpkg -S packagename | grep bin
[08:19] <JFlash> what does that do?
[08:19] <woz> korhalf, i'm not afraid of compiling my own kernel, i just wanted to know if i could have this package manager do it automatically for me
[08:19] <korhalf> markive, i agreed with bDerrly, ntpd helps synchronize your clock, and it isnt necessary but even still, its good to have
[08:19] <markive> korhalf it is already unticked :s
[08:19] <Eleaf> dbernar1, ?
[08:19] <_jason> JFlash, sorry, dpkg -L packagename | grep bin
[08:19] <Yoni> Hello all, I just installed on my box Ubuntu 5.10 I'm a linux newbie
[08:19] <korhalf> woz, heh im afraid, im very afraid, it fails for me and it takes a logn time, ill update when the ubuntu team has the update.
[08:19] <_jason> JFlash, that will list all of the files it owns and find the ones with bin in it
[08:19] <bDerrly> Yoni, congrats!
[08:19] <psycose> JFlash, on a terminal try the following command : $ echo $PATH             this will display all the path's that your system look application for ...
[08:20] <woz> korhalf, i'm used to gentoo, which there is a way to unmask development versions
[08:20] <Yoni> How can I know what programs are working ATM?
[08:20] <korhalf> woz, but yeah i have no clue, if it isnt in the reposiitory, then thats it
[08:20] <JFlash> oh dude, i'm really considering going back to windows. i cant even get the basic software installed in Linux :(
[08:20] <Eleaf> YoManWazap, what do you mean?
[08:20] <JFlash> it's really frustrating
[08:20] <Eleaf> Yoni, what do you mean
[08:20] <Eleaf> sorry
[08:20] <Eleaf> lol
[08:20] <korhalf> woz, yes yes i know, i used genkernel tho i never had to worry with that either :P
[08:20] <bDerrly> Yoni, start clicking on stuff in the menu
[08:20] <Yoni> bDerrly - Thanks
[08:20] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i tell what type of bios i have without restarting
[08:20] <bDerrly> JFlash, what are you trying to install?
[08:20] <_jason> JFlash, you have to get used to it, like anything else.  Trust me it's worth it
[08:20] <JFlash> real player
[08:20] <bDerrly> the_mr_bong_show, by restarting  :-P
[08:20] <markive> korhalf how do i move it down the list?
[08:20] <woz> korhalf, aight, thanks anyway
[08:21] <Yoni> I want to know what programs are working, like the taskmgr ( Ctrl + Alt + Del ) progie in Windows :\
[08:21] <korhalf> markive, put it in the rc6 directory?
[08:21] <korhalf> damn im not familiar with update-rc
[08:21] <bDerrly> markive, you'll have to change the symlinks in /etc/rc5.d/
[08:21] <korhalf> markive, ask bDerrly :P
[08:21] <Eleaf> dbernar1, I found a debian package if you want gimpshop
[08:21] <markive> eek
[08:21] <bDerrly> i really hate sysv init...bsd init is much easier
[08:21] <the_mr_bong_show> ok then how can i see if my bios isnt crompt coz i get an error at the startup
[08:21] <markive> korhalf i'll just wair
[08:21] <korhalf> markive, man ln lol
[08:21] <JFlash> well i just think that one shouldnt not be a linux expert in order to use linux
[08:21] <_jason> JFlash, you are correct
[08:21] <korhalf> markive, nah just remove it alltogether, you can start it up yourself in terminal if its necessary
[08:21] <markive> korhalf i'll just wait that extra 20 secs
[08:22] <_jason> JFlash, and you don't have to be
[08:22] <markive> its already unticked
[08:22] <bDerrly> JFlash, i'm sorry i missed the previous parts, but what is the problem you're having with real player?
[08:22] <Sh4d0x> i'm off for a moment, working on my wifi connection (hoping to get ik working)
[08:22] <JFlash> i had to learn tons of linux lingo and from day 0 to now and i still cant get my system ready for me to work in it. really frustrating
[08:22] <Eleaf> does anybody know how to monitor a ssh connection?
[08:22] <Eleaf> don don don don
[08:22] <ilpavox> anyone have any idea whay .xinitrc is not read at startup?
[08:22] <JFlash> well, synaptic told me it was not installable
[08:22] <korhalf> Eleaf, ethereal, which is what im having problems withlol
[08:22] <woz> Eleaf, monitor your own connection or someone elses connection?
[08:23] <bDerrly> ilpavox, because you're using gdm, not startx i would presuem
[08:23] <korhalf> ilpavox, because gnome sucks and it doesnt use .xinitrc
[08:23] <JFlash> then i downloaded a .rpm from realplayer site
[08:23] <korhalf> ilpavox, it uses .gnomerc or something
[08:23] <crimsun> ilpavox: because display managers use ~/.xsession
[08:23] <_jason> JFlash, generally I've found that the documentation is enough to do most of the things a general user would want.
[08:23] <Eleaf> korhalf, how odd, I have ethereal open right now!
[08:23] <woz> korhalf, what problems are you having?
[08:23] <ilpavox> got ya.  thanks
[08:23] <korhalf> woz, none.
[08:23] <_jason> JFlash, there is your problem, why are you donwloading a .rpm?
[08:23] <korhalf> woz, with ethereal you mean?
[08:23] <bDerrly> JFlash, don't start using rpms on your shiny new ubuntu system, heh
[08:23] <Eleaf> woz, monitor somebody sshing into my computer
[08:23] <woz> korhalf, yeah
[08:23] <dbernar1> Eleaf: where is it from, please give me a link.
[08:23] <korhalf> woz, yeh i want to monitor a host on my LAN, its not working
[08:23] <Shadyman> How come firefox 1.5 doesnt show up as an automatic update in update manager?
[08:23] <Shadyman> is there a repository i need to add?
[08:23] <JFlash> then i used alien to turn it into a .deb and used  dpkg to install the deb but still cant see the program listed on the software list
[08:23] <Eleaf> dbernar1, alright
[08:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell JFlash about realplayer
[08:23] <woz> Eleaf, you can see if they have programs open with w
[08:23] <crimsun> Shadyman: because you're probably not running 6.04
[08:23] <korhalf> Eleaf, for that, you can make netcat listen on port 22.
[08:24] <korhalf> woz, no i mean on my network like other machines
[08:24] <_jason> JFlash, remove the rpm, and use the .deb
[08:24] <MoonRanger> !realplayer
[08:24] <staaka> ok guys, i'm having an issue trying to play a music stream via totem and/or xfmedia and i keep gettin dbus errors. would someone like to troubleshoot this with me?
[08:24] <ubotu> [realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <bDerrly> JFlash, have you read the guide?  www.ubuntuguide.com or .org whatever it is
[08:24] <korhalf> woz, saya windows computer with ip 192.168.0.123 i weant to see all incoming and outgoing packets, this way i can tell what sites theyre going too
[08:24] <woz> korhalf, ethereal is probably your best bet then
[08:24] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[08:24] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[08:24] <Eleaf> dbernar1, here is the debian package http://mirror.suramya.com/redirect.php?id=3%20target=_new
[08:24] <korhalf> woz, i know, but i cant get it to do what i want
[08:24] <bDerrly> JFlash, you also have to set real player in your $PATH
[08:24] <staaka> it's a asx media stream but i have w32codecs installed..
[08:24] <woz> korhalf, you have to play around with the filters
[08:24] <Eleaf> woz, w w wwwwwwwwwww
[08:24] <JFlash> do i have to read a guide for each program i need to install? that's a bit lame but ok, i will do it now
[08:24] <korhalf> seriously man, i dont got time to play around
[08:25] <Shadyman> crimsun: That's a new version of update manager?
[08:25] <keherman> ANyone know how I can get Apache to restart my SSH server from a protected webpage?   I am using phop's system() and get permissions deniued
[08:25] <dbernar1> Eleaf: thanks. Is there any information about this deb anywhere? I am not gonna just install from somewhere, for security reasons.
[08:25] <korhalf> i need it working, i cant test stuff all day, its too complex and i have to learn too much shit for that
[08:25] <woz> Eleaf, huh?
[08:25] <Eleaf> hmm
[08:25] <crimsun> Shadyman: err, what?
[08:25] <keherman> How can I allow Apache to restart the SSH server
[08:25] <Eleaf> woz, nothing lol
[08:25] <bDerrly> JFlash, reading doesn't hurt.  did you know how to install real player in windows the first time you used windows?
[08:25] <woz> aight
[08:25] <_jason> JFlash, with packages in the repositories you are well off.  If you read the guide I sent you it is basically 2 lines of doing.  The rest is just information.
[08:25] <Shadyman> crimsun: 6.04?
[08:25] <Eleaf> dbernar1, this is where I found it from, the link is near the bottom of the page http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[08:26] <jenda> Falstius: Is there a way to install some more external HDD drivers or something of the sort?
[08:26] <crimsun> Shadyman: "Dapper"
[08:26] <h4x> hello people, i was here yesterday, requesting information to upgrade my firefox
[08:26] <Shadyman> crimsun: Heh.
[08:26] <nguyen> how come i can't type in my password when i type Su into terminal?? help please
[08:26] <_jason> JFlash, let me know if you have any problems removing the rpm package
[08:26] <dbernar1> thanks again.
[08:26] <Yoni> How & Where ange the port of vino server ( vnc )?
[08:26] <nguyen> how come i can't type in my password when i type Su into terminal?? help please
[08:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell nguyen about sudo
[08:26] <crimsun> nguyen: use sudo
[08:26] <h4x> idk how many people were here, but i was rudely told not to use firefox, and basically left in the dust.
[08:26] <Yoni> *How & Where can I change the port of vino server ( vnc )?
[08:26] <bDerrly> nguyen, because root is disabled by dfault in ubuntu, and don't ask the same question so quickly, crap is scrolling by plenty quick as it is
[08:26] <korhalf> h4x, yeh by me lol
[08:27] <korhalf> h4x, use opera
[08:27] <_jason> h4x, use what you like
[08:27] <korhalf> ie. opera
[08:27] <Shadyman> h4x, use firefox.
[08:27] <Denstark>  /j #gentoo.et
[08:27] <Denstark> oops
[08:27] <Shadyman> :)
[08:27] <nguyen> sorry
[08:27] <jsz> I get this error when I startx... fatal io error 104(connection reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[08:27] <nguyen> thanks anyways
[08:27] <jsz> I think it's to do with elibs
[08:27] <h4x> anyways, i have a great link, which many of you probably know about. its called automatix. it automaticlly upgrades everything, and installs many common files. and apps.
[08:27] <h4x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[08:27] <Xperience> how do i point a config file to a certain file to prevent getting an error?
[08:27] <the_mr_bong_show> dos any know if i go to instal windows xp and the sp 1 and the sp 1 wasnt finish would that miss up my bios
[08:27] <_jason> !automatix
[08:27] <ubotu> well, automatix is crap
[08:27] <Eleaf> korhalf, how do you listen using ethereal so new packets show up in the window, so that you don't have to stop the capture to show the packets? = p
[08:27] <h4x> why?
[08:27] <Shadyman> ROFL
[08:27] <crimsun> h4x: don't recommend automatix; use easybreezy instead.
[08:28] <Xperience> how do i point a config file to a certain file to prevent getting an error?
[08:28] <h4x> !easybreezy
[08:28] <Xperience> the_mr_bong_show > how the fuck is an os going to fuck your bios?
[08:28] <bDerrly> the_mr_bong_show, i really doubt it
[08:28] <navarone> Xperience how do you mean?
[08:28] <h4x> why is automatix crap? crimsun
[08:28] <jenda> h4x it is extremely unsafe
[08:28] <korhalf> !EasyUbuntu
[08:29] <Falstius> if you're using ethereal at work, the sysadmins might through a fit
[08:29] <Xperience> navrone im installing avedemux and it asks for file jsapi.h and it cant find it and give and error im trying to point the config script to that file
[08:29] <korhalf> im not
[08:29] <h4x> so which script type program similiar does everybody recommend
[08:29] <korhalf> im using this at home
[08:29] <Denstark> check out etherape
[08:29] <psycose> well i try to help a friend who try to install his inventel wifi usb dongle on Breezy, following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto everything is going very well but on step 5. when we do $ ndiswrapper -l, it says driver present but _hardware not present_ (/etc/modules updated with ndiswrapper modules & after restart), when he does a $ iwconfig there is no wlan0 in the interface list any tips ? Thanks
[08:29] <korhalf> to spy on my brother
[08:29] <Denstark> that is cool stuf
[08:29] <jenda> h4x in about a week or two, there should be a fully functional velsion of EasyUbuntu to replace it, ATM, EasyBreezy is good enough
[08:29] <korhalf> and god forbid anyone knows how to use it
[08:29] <navarone> Xperience...have you found the file?
[08:29] <Eleaf> korhalf, .. lol
[08:29] <nguyen> how do get a password for the root?
[08:29] <Xperience> yes
[08:29] <navarone> Xperience are you trying to run configure?
[08:29] <Shadyman> !root
[08:30] <Shadyman> or something?
[08:30] <Xperience> yes
[08:30] <h4x> why is automatix unsafe? jenda
[08:30] <bDerrly> nguyen, sudo su <your password>; passwd
[08:30] <yoav> thank you all, goodbye and thanks for all the fish
[08:30] <Shadyman> !root nguyen
[08:30] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Shadyman
[08:30] <the_mr_bong_show> well its just when i went to install the sp 1 i restarted and i got an error saying cmos checksum bad f1 to setup f2 ti resume and then today i went to restart since  i have had ubuntu for a while and my pc just sat there like the motherbord wasnt bootin up could it be ab bad battory or somthing else
[08:30] <Shadyman> lol
[08:30] <_jason> nguyen, read what ubotu sent you, it explains it to you (as well as why not to do so)
[08:30] <navarone> Xperience try ./configure -h <path to file>
[08:30] <Eleaf> korhalf, what is troubling you with ethereal?
[08:30] <Xperience> thx
[08:30] <h4x> jenda im like one click away from installing pakages from automatix
[08:30] <JFlash> _jason, thank you, i will let you know
[08:31] <navarone> Xperience...I had same prob witha  configure but could still get no joy
[08:31] <jenda> h4x: It sets the root password, thus borking GUI admin tools, it sometimes screws up sources list. Honestly, get EasyBreezy - it does the same stuff but safe
[08:31] <slew> hi, im trying to completly remove kde, is there an easier way than using synaptic?
[08:32] <jenda> h4x: easybreezy.robotgeek.org
[08:32] <navarone> h$x...I think Synaptic is better at installing packages...and installing packages that are not in repos can lead to things going boom
[08:32] <h4x> will do. i have installed automatix already, but no pakages have been installed yet via it. am i still safe?
[08:32] <jenda> h4x: Did you run it?
[08:32] <h4x> automatix is running
[08:32] <Xperience> navarone that is an invalid command
[08:32] <psycose> slew, using # apt-get remove --purge <package> ?
[08:33] <YoManWazap> Hi - Is there any official Ubuntu's web-site with the recomended repositories for breezy? ..cause comparing my synaptic packs versions with those in http://packages.ubuntu.com/, my sources.list seems to be giving me not last versions! Any help will be appreciated!
[08:33] <BooZee> o.k. this is just unacceptable. I cannot see text fields inside flash movies with firefox. I can see graphicly text, but not textboxes. (plus, I can't see the text in the flash settings (right click -> settings). I only see the little pics)
[08:33] <korhalf> Eleaf, it sux
[08:33] <slew> psycose-> i did --purge kde but its still here.
[08:33] <korhalf> i need to monitor my god damn brothers actions
[08:33] <neron> Hello..
[08:33] <korhalf> it should be as easy as specifying what ip to monitor, and what protocol
[08:33] <Eleaf> korhalf, huh
[08:33] <korhalf> and then a port too if you wanted.
[08:33] <Eleaf> oh
[08:33] <jenda> h4x Then you have already probably set a root password. Live with it. It won't kill you, but might cause problems. We have had reinstalls because of aut'x before. I'm not the most experienced on the subject, though.
[08:34] <korhalf> i used EasyUbuntu
[08:34] <korhalf> didnt break my system
[08:34] <jenda> korhalf: good for you :)
[08:34] <Eleaf> korhalf, are you capturing anything?
[08:34] <korhalf> its clean as a bean, installs the wine and all that fresh
[08:34] <h4x> is there any way of unsetting root password
[08:34] <korhalf> Eleaf, nope, 0
[08:34] <neron> can ubuntu 5.1 be installed onto an embedded system?
[08:34] <korhalf> h4x, hells no
[08:34] <h4x> *noob* sorry
[08:34] <korhalf> h4x, i have a root pass too
[08:34] <_jason> h4x, to disable root: sudo passwd -l root
[08:34] <jenda> dunno, h4x - I have it set by aut'x too.
[08:34] <neron> or evene better "thin client" computers?
[08:34] <JFlash> ok, here's what i need to know: will i be able to play extreaming video from sites like cbsnewsvideo.com  just with the players that come with ubutu or should i install players like  (sic ) "the codecs" ?
[08:35] <psycose> slew you could search the main package that allow KDE to be removed complety ... something like kdelib i don't remember sorry
[08:35] <Eleaf> korhalf, are you pressing start new live capture?
[08:35] <Xperience> navarone can ya help?
[08:35] <Eleaf> korhalf, have you selected the device as eth0 ?
[08:35] <h4x> should i unset the password? or just live with the damage done.  If any was done .do that korhalf, jenda, _jason
[08:35] <korhalf> obviously
[08:35] <korhalf> no damage is done
[08:35] <_jason> h4x, it is more secure to disable it
[08:35] <korhalf> the reason they took out root is so noobs dont go around as root and delete shit on their machines
[08:35] <Eleaf> so you hit start new live capture korhalf, and nothing happens?
[08:35] <_jason> ubotu, tell h4x about root
[08:35] <jenda> h4x: I just did. I dunno...
[08:36] <_jason> h4x, there was no damage done to your computer
[08:36] <korhalf> Eleaf, that only captures packets inbound and outbound on MY machine
[08:36] <_jason> h4x, at least I don't see why there would be
[08:36] <jenda> korhalf: but setting it is supposed to break the admin tools
[08:36] <korhalf> jenda, what admin tools?
[08:36] <Eleaf> oh
[08:36] <Eleaf> wait...
[08:36] <Eleaf> korhalf, shouldn't it be picking up all packets on the network? I know you can do this..
[08:36] <h4x> ok. i'll unset the password, unistall automatix, and get easybreezy
[08:36] <navarone> Xperience...try ./configure --help to get command flags
[08:36] <jenda> korhalf: I dunno - look at the wiki, it says somewhere. Robotgeek knows
[08:36] <midwinter> hm, how do you add separators to gnome panels? :|
[08:37] <korhalf> jenda, nothings happened thus far, so im keeping it
[08:37] <jenda> What's the best resource on file compression?
[08:37] <jenda> korhalf: K
[08:37] <korhalf> jenda, its not true linux unless you have a root user enabled
[08:37] <korhalf> jenda, IMHO
[08:37] <Eleaf> korhalf, I figured it out
[08:37] <jenda> But that doesn't make automatix any better :(
[08:37] <korhalf> Eleaf, okay
[08:37] <Eleaf> mine is picking up all on the network
[08:37] <Eleaf> go to edit, preferences
[08:37] <korhalf> Eleaf, i dont want all, i need to filter to a certain machine
[08:37] <korhalf> kk
[08:38] <Eleaf> oh
[08:38] <Eleaf> capture
[08:38] <jenda> What's the best resource on file compression? And wich format is strongest?
[08:38] <Eleaf> make sure promiscuous mode is on
[08:38] <JFlash> _jason, well i think the information on that page is misleading cz it tells me ubuntu's player can play a variety of formats like RM but if i go to cbs new video site it will tell me to install real player or wmp
[08:38] <Eleaf> it probably is
[08:38] <Haukkari> Heya. What's the deal with not being able to login after a hard reboot because of some .ICEauthority file or something?
[08:38] <Eleaf> korhalf, promiscuous PROMISCOUOUSUSUSUSUOU
[08:38] <Eleaf> korhalf, did you read the documentation?
[08:38] <_jason> JFlash, have you installed the w32codecs?
[08:38] <korhalf> Eleaf, it is.
[08:39] <korhalf> Eleaf, no, its too complex and retarded, i just want to know how to do this, i dont want to learn TCP/IP and socket programming
[08:39] <Xperience> i thinki fixed it
[08:39] <_jason> JFlash, "Most of Real's non-free media formats can also be played by mplayer, xine, and totem-xine when the w32codecs are installed."
[08:39] <Eleaf> lol
[08:40] <fredforfaen> Haukkari : sudo chown yourname .ICEauthority
[08:40] <fredforfaen> then log in
[08:40] <DaveRag> Can anyone help I forgot to make a separate partition for /home, is there a way I can resize my / partition to create a new one for /home ?
[08:40] <jenda> Please... what is the best resource on file compression? And wich format is strongest?
[08:40] <Davey> (g|q)parted DaveRag
[08:40] <Haukkari> fredforfaen: ok..
[08:40] <_jason> DaveRag, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46866
[08:40] <foxpaul> i've got a wireless router with two machines connected to it. the main machine is online and works fine, but the other machine can only ping inside the network, not out.
[08:40] <Haukkari> fredforfaen: how can I make sure that it does not happen again?
[08:40] <murphy> hi to all! what is the repository's string for marillat in source.list?
[08:40] <foxpaul> any ideas what i might have done wrong?
[08:40] <fredforfaen> Haukkari dont know
[08:41] <fredforfaen> i just know the fix Haukkari
[08:41] <korhalf> foxpaul, check your routing, you might have denied all incoming and outgoing packets to that machine
[08:41] <Bad-Boy|> daca stie cineva vb pe romana sau mageara pe priv pls ca io-s mai nou :)
[08:41] <foxpaul> korhalf, how do i check that?
[08:41] <Eleaf> ooo it makes cool flow graphs from the packet data!
[08:41] <Haukkari> fredforfaen: ok, thanks
[08:41] <korhalf> Bad-Boy|, ubuntu-es?
[08:41] <Xperience> anyone know where i can get spidermonkey java engine?
[08:41] <JFlash> _jason, yea thanks. maybe they just need a better technical writer. installing mplayer now
[08:41] <psycose> murphy google is your friend ;-)
[08:42] <_jason> JFlash, actualyl that page is user-created.  You can edit it to fix whatever you thought was unclear
[08:42] <Bad-Boy|> aha
[08:42] <_jason> ubotu, tell JFlash about mplayer
[08:42] <murphy> psycose, I have searched on google, but i've found only string for debian stabel
[08:42] <murphy> stable
[08:43] <JFlash> _jason, yea forgot it's a wiki. lol
[08:43] <Eleaf> uu
[08:43] <Eleaf> oo!
[08:43] <Eleaf> oh no!
[08:44] <Eleaf> =o
[08:44] <Locke> is there any way to keep gkrellm from showing up on my open windows bar?
[08:44] <korhalf> Locke, don't use gkrellm lol
[08:44] <Eleaf> lm
[08:44] <korhalf> Locke, add some monitoring utilites to your panels
[08:44] <trappist> Locke: try launching it with -w
[08:45] <_jason> Locke, I know of a way but it's probably not the easiest/fastest.  Use devilspie.
[08:45] <BooZee> how do I remove flash completley from my box?
[08:45] <psycose> what are you trying to install ?
[08:45] <_jason> BooZee, purge the package that you installed it with.
[08:45] <psycose> murphy, what are you trying to install ?
[08:45] <korhalf> hey hmn can i have a guest account on your machine :)
[08:45] <Locke> anyone know any better programs than gkrellm?
[08:45] <BooZee> _jason: hmm.. how do I know what package I installed it with?
[08:46] <trappist> Locke: conky is worth a look
[08:46] <BooZee> _jason: I think it was with repositories which I added
[08:46] <_jason> BooZee, search for 'flash' in synaptic and see what is installed
[08:46] <murphy> psycose, I need w32codec and most multimedia program
[08:47] <BooZee> _jason: did that. removed all. still, when I enter a site with flash in it on firefox, I can see the flash
[08:47] <_jason> BooZee, are you using firefox1.07?
[08:47] <BooZee> yep
[08:47] <BooZee> _jason: yep
[08:47] <psycose> murphy, can i suggest you this line : deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[08:48] <psycose> murphy, this repository is ship for Ubuntu breezy and also got : w32codecs skype realplay
[08:49] <_jason> BooZee, 'ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/*flash*'
[08:49] <BooZee> _jason: "ls: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/*flash*: No such file or directory"
[08:50] <butcherbird> whats the best way to use cups 127.0.0.1:631/admin without enabling root?
[08:50] <_jason> BooZee, 'locate libflashplayer.so'
[08:50] <BooZee> _jason: found it
[08:51] <typewriter> why isnt azureus part of some repository?
[08:51] <kotatsu> anyone here using dapper with an ati card + r300?
[08:51] <rikai> how do i use lilo instead of grub as the boot loader?
[08:52] <_jason> BooZee, is there just one?
[08:52] <BooZee> yes
[08:52] <BooZee> _jason: yes
[08:52] <trappist> rikai: fix up your /etc/lilo.conf and run 'sudo lilo'
[08:52] <butcherbird> typewriter, dont really need to compile or install it. if u have java just unpack the file from azureus website and run
[08:52] <_jason> BooZee, dpkg -S libflashplayer.so
[08:52] <rikai> trappist, i meant, during install.
[08:52] <trappist> I dunno if it's an option during install
[08:53] <BooZee> _jason: hmm.. am I suppose to run it from the directory it's located in?
[08:53] <_jason> BooZee, nope
[08:53] <s^off> what are you guys getting for christmas???
[08:53] <psycose> rikai why such a choice  ?
[08:53] <BooZee> _jason: well, I got "dpkg: *libflashplayer.so* not found."
[08:53] <_jason> s^off, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:53] <_jason> BooZee, okay that just means no package owns it
[08:54] <mike-w> where is network information (host, dhcp or static, subnet mask, gateway) kept on ubuntu, i want to learn to set network characteristics manually
[08:54] <BooZee> _jason: oh. o.k.
[08:54] <_jason> BooZee, that same directory should have flashplayer.xpt
[08:54] <_jason> BooZee, you can just delete those to get rid of flash
[08:54] <s^off> _jason - sorry
[08:54] <BooZee> _jason: are you sure?
[08:54] <psycose> any wifi usb dongle guru's ?
[08:54] <_jason> BooZee, fairly certain, if you want to be on the safe side just move it somewhere else
[08:54] <mike-w> where is network information (host, dhcp or static, subnet mask, gateway) kept on ubuntu, i want to learn to set network characteristics manually
[08:55] <_jason> BooZee, may I ask why you are getting rid of flash?
[08:55] <murphy> sorry psicose, but synaptic don't found your  repository...
[08:55] <BooZee> _jason: cuz I can't see any textbox inside flash movies, and nobody helps me with it, so I've decided I'll try to remove it, and then reinstall it
[08:55] <murphy> sorry psyose, but synaptic don't found your  repository...
[08:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell BooZee about flashfonts
[08:56] <murphy> sorry psycose, but synaptic don't found your  repository...
[08:56] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone know if Dapper is getting Gaim 2 any time soon?
[08:56] <BooZee> _jason: been there, done that, nothing helps
[08:56] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: don't hold your breath.
[08:56] <MonsieurBon> Where do I get CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4 from? Do I have to recompile my kernel, or can I compile only a module or something?
[08:56] <_jason> BooZee, have you tried installing the msttcorefonts?
[08:56] <BooZee> _jason: aha
[08:56] <midwinter> how do you add line separators to panels?
[08:56] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  dependencies a bit intensive?
[08:57] <Shadyman> ok noob question time. where do i get libstdc++.so.5 from?
[08:57] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: it breaks too much on upgrades from previous versions
[08:57] <crimsun> Shadyman: http://packages.ubuntu.com -> search
[08:57] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  ah, right.  The beta is rather beta.
[08:57] <Shadyman> woo
[08:57] <Shadyman> crimsun: Thx
[08:57] <psycose> murphy, well may be you missenter it, it use it and it work well, i prefer it to marillat because it got the repository encryption system ... may be i can send it to you again ...
[08:57] <bluefoxicy> crimsun: What about Firefox 1.5?  Apparently Deer Park is still used.
[08:58] <crimsun> MonsieurBon: modprobe arc4
[08:58] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: it's in Dapper already
[08:58] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  re several extensions still expect 1.4.x?
[08:58] <psycose> murphy, deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[08:58] <bluefoxicy> crimsun: "Help -> About Deer Park"?
[08:59] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: what about it?
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  Firefox 1.5 says firefox ;)
[08:59] <h4x> bluefoxicy, are you running linux?
[08:59] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: I doubt it's a high priority
[08:59] <MonsieurBon> crimsun, can I do this permanently?
[08:59] <h4x> anybody running *nix, and firefox 1.5
[08:59] <cocox> hi there, what is the equivalent in ubuntu to the command "traceroute" ??
[08:59] <murphy> psycose, this is synaptic's output (i'm italian user): W: Impossibile controllare la lista dei pacchetti sorgente ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.free.fr_pub_Distributions%5fLinux_plf_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I've seen at least 1 upgrade of Firefox in the past week; just wondering why it was upgraded to another build of 1.4.999+stuff instead of 1.5
[09:00] <_jason> h4x, I'm sure a lot of people are
[09:00] <h4x> sorry, wrong server!
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> h4x:  what do you think?
[09:00] <cocox> plop
[09:00] <_jason> cocox, type: tracerou <tab>
[09:00] <crimsun> MonsieurBon: echo arc4 | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[09:00] <h4x> bluefoxicy, _jason, i forgot that i was in this server. I got lost *noob*. disregard
[09:00] <cocox> _jason, thnx buddy
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  Thunderbird 1.5 is unfortunately still beta; but it uses a lot less memory too.  Hopefully those two will be well integrated into Dapper at release ;)
[09:01] <funkyhat_> Hi, anyone managed to set up their Linksys WUSB11 successfully?
[09:01] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: you're getting caught by all the red herrings.
[09:01] <psycose> murphy, paste me the line you have (using $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | free), then make a # apt-get update
[09:01] <asuramaki> cocox: try tracepath
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  hmm?
[09:01] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: don't pay any attention to the package version
[09:02] <funkyhat_> I'm at a mate's house attempting to get their WLAN up and running and am having trouble with that adapter
[09:02] <cocox> asuramaki, thnx u a lot :)
[09:02] <psycose> murphy, oops please read  "grep free" instead of "free" thanks ;-)
[09:02] <trappist> asuramaki: | free ?
[09:02] <crimsun> it _is_ 1.5rc3, which _is_ 1.5
[09:02] <MonsieurBon> crimsun, thanks
[09:02] <trappist> oh hehe
[09:02] <funkyhat_> The wiki isn't much help as the drivers it points to won't compile
[09:02] <ubuntu2> I love this distro
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  Ah, so it's pure 1.5, you just never updated to the version with the new strings that say "Firefox" instead of "Deer Park"
[09:03] <murphy> psycose: ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[09:03] <murphy> deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[09:03] <usr500> hi
[09:03] <usr500> i cannot configure my printer in ubuntu, seems the configuration program crashes
[09:04] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: cosmetics are low priority at this stage.
[09:04] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  I tested FF1.5 vs FF1.0, better than halves memory usage at startup.  Thunderbird 1.5beta1 uses 26M of memory at start instead of 60M here too.  Gnome 2.13 betas in Dapper cut memory usage down by over 100 megs overall.  I'm not sure what Gaim 2 is gonna do to memory.
[09:04] <Shadyman> So i should wait for Dapper to come out before trying to install firefox 1.5?
[09:04] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  Agreed.  I was just worried something under the hood was a bit different.
[09:04] <crimsun> Shadyman: that's the best plan, yes
[09:04] <JFlash> i had some failure during ma apt-get of mozilla mplayer
[09:04] <JFlash> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/faad2/libfaad2-0_2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  Connection timed out
[09:04] <Shadyman> crimsun: Heh, thanks
[09:04] <BooZee> _jason: should I download the package they offer, or go to a site that pops a "this site requires a plugin" ?
[09:04] <JFlash> wha should i do?
[09:05] <_jason> BooZee, for flash?
[09:05] <BooZee> _jason: yes
[09:05] <usr500> printer configuration program crash!
[09:05] <Shadyman> BooZee: Either should do, i think
[09:05] <_jason> BooZee, just use the package flashplugin-nonfree in the repos
[09:05] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  But at any rate, Dapper should have half the memory requirements of Breezy, and likely 10% lower CPU requirements at least (due to not having to spin on doing work with tons of shit in memory)
[09:05] <psycose> murphy,  1- close synaptic 2- on your terminal  run # apt-get update 3- try synaptic again
[09:05] <BooZee> o.k.
[09:05] <bluefoxicy> this will be sweet.
[09:05] <Shadyman> when's dapper due out?
[09:05] <_jason> Shadyman, april
[09:05] <Falstius> bluefoxicy: where is my excuse to upgrade my computer!!!
[09:05] <bluefoxicy> Shadyman: April 06
[09:05] <Shadyman> Ahh! cant wait!
[09:06] <usr500> is good idea add as default video player, MPlayer
[09:06] <bluefoxicy> Shadyman:  I'm going to have to get Dapper later though; my first priority is LEgend of Zelda:  Twilight Princess
[09:06] <DShepherd> Shadyman: you have more reason to live and wait :-D
[09:06] <usr500> GMPlayer is skinneable and work fine
[09:06] <murphy> psycose: after # apt-get update, I see: Get:1 ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy Release.gpg THEN Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr breezy Release.gpg
[09:06] <SmokeTheDank> hello. How do I tell which version of ubuntu im running?
[09:06] <Shadyman> DShepherd: Oh, you're right.
[09:06] <_jason> SmokeTheDank, lsb_release -r
[09:07] <Falstius> will breezy get the gstreamer-1.0?
[09:07] <Shadyman> bluefoxicy: Well, you could always clone yourself?
[09:07] <murphy> psycose, yes, my synaptic is close :-)
[09:07] <JFlash>  got an error message:   Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?  << what should i do??
[09:07] <SmokeTheDank> _jason, im running 4.10 how do I upgrade to the newest?
[09:07] <fyhuang> hey, i have a question about Ubuntu 5.10 on PPC
[09:07] <bluefoxicy> Shadyman:  I could, but I don't have a sister, and it'd only be an approximate clone.
[09:07] <psycose> murphy, ok so everything ok now ? ;-)
[09:07] <_jason> ubotu, tell SmokeTheDank about breezy
[09:07] <Shadyman> bluefoxicy: Oh, i see.
[09:08] <asuramaki> fyhuang: just ask it...do not be afraid.
[09:08] <SmokeTheDank> _jason, Thanks
[09:08] <fyhuang> my friend burned a 5.10 PPC CD to install on a PowerMac G4, but he can't get past the boot: screen
[09:08] <_jason> JFlash, what were you doing when you got that message
[09:08] <fyhuang> apparently none of the keys on the keyboard are responding
[09:08] <asuramaki> fyhuang: there are many expert here to accommodate the issue you may pose
[09:08] <JFlash> downloading mplayer
[09:08] <JFlash> for mozilla
[09:08] <Sh4d0x_away> :( can't find it
[09:08] <fyhuang> (keyboard works normally with Mac OS)
[09:09] <bluefoxicy> fyhuang:  USB keyboards?
[09:09] <fyhuang> yes, USB keyboard
[09:09] <Sh4d0x_away> can someone help me installing my wifi?
[09:09] <_jason> JFlash, have you installed the mplayer player yet?
[09:09] <butcherbird> usr500, mplayer no gui is my default player on ubuntu and my xp machine dont know why u would want a gui i find it distracting when watching a movie
[09:09] <bluefoxicy> fyhuang:  Assuming macs have BIOS settings, go into them and set USB keyboard emulation to on
[09:09] <JFlash> how do i know? i just typed sudo apt-get  -i  mplayer or something
[09:09] <BooZee> _jason: even dough I installed the flashplugin-nonfree from synaptic, when I enter www.flash.com I get a "Flash Player is required..."
[09:10] <bluefoxicy> fyhuang:  The bios doesn't export a keyboard abstraction by default.  To get USB keyboard, you have to have a USB stack, then a HID stack, then HID keyboard drivers.  A boot loader won't hav ethis.
[09:10] <asuramaki> bluefoxicy: i do not think the mac's open firmware has such a setting actually
[09:10] <JFlash> than it downloaded some 17 of 19 files but missed out on 2
[09:10] <_jason> BooZee, did you restart your browser
[09:10] <psycose> Sh4d0x_away, are you going to use NdisWrapper ? if yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[09:10] <BooZee> _jason:
[09:10] <bluefoxicy> asuramaki: Then fyhuang  needs to use a different keyboard
[09:10] <BooZee> _jason: yes
[09:10] <ubuntu2> anyone have a suggestion for obtaining driver for Dell A920 USB Printer to work with Ubuntu ?
[09:10] <_jason> JFlash, pastebin the output from your terminal please
[09:10] <murphy> psycose... yes... synaptic have found w32codec!!!! but... why "Ign"? Ign=Ignore? :-|
[09:10] <Sh4d0x_away> psycose, uhu, i was following that page, till it sais something about islsm and i can't find it anywhere :(
[09:10] <fyhuang> my friend also says that there are no PS/2 ports on the computer, thus he has to use a USB keyboard...
[09:10] <asuramaki> fyhuang: what mac is it?
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell JFlash about pastebin
[09:11] <trappist> ubuntu2: check dmesg right after you plug the printer into the usb port to see how linux sees the printer
[09:11] <fyhuang> asuramaki: PowerMac G4
[09:11] <_jason> BooZee, install flashplayer-mozilla as well then
[09:11] <ubuntu2> trappist: ok
[09:11] <asuramaki> bluefoxicy: poor advice.  modern macs have only usb keyboards.
[09:11] <bluefoxicy> Shit.
[09:12] <psycose> murphy, great ;-) the problem was : you have not update your repository cache after adding a new repository line , see u
[09:12] <asuramaki> fyhuang: un moment prease
[09:12] <trappist> bluefoxicy: my BIOS has (optional) support for usb keyboards.  all my usb keyboards work just fine.
[09:12] <psycose> Shadyman, sorry i don't undestant islsm
[09:12] <Eleaf> bluefoxicy, what is wrong?
[09:13] <JFlash> _jason, wow, i made it to pastebin user number 6000!
[09:13] <JFlash> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6000
[09:13] <Psychotic> hey there
[09:13] <shadox> psycose, islsm is the linux driver you need for wifi
[09:13] <Eleaf> that's so wonderful!!!
[09:13] <Psychotic> anyone can help ?
[09:13] <JFlash> do i get special sweepstakes from that?
[09:13] <Eleaf> JFlash, That is sensational!!!!
[09:13] <Eleaf> JFlash, I am so excited for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:13] <Eleaf> = ))
[09:14] <BooZee> _jason: it worked - I can see flash, but still no text. I think I'm going crazy. I'm the only one with this anoying problem!! how can that be?!
[09:14] <JFlash> yea, man, finally a story i can tell my grandkids about !!
[09:14] <Eleaf> that's so great
[09:14] <_jason> BooZee, link me to the flash that is fiving you problems please
[09:14] <Eleaf> what a lovely time for you
[09:14] <Psychotic> Guys Guys
[09:14] <Psychotic> Am Trying To Get Some Help plz :/
[09:14] <Eleaf> JFlash, how do you feel?
[09:14] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I change the Ubuntu logo at the top menu bar next to Applications?
[09:14] <BooZee> _jason: you can just right click a movie, and click on settings.
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> how do I install wpa?
[09:14] <trappist> Psychotic: no you're not.  you do that by asking a question.
[09:14] <BooZee> _jason: I don't have any text there.\
[09:14] <Psychotic> ow ok
[09:15] <Eleaf> AMCDeathKnight, I think the image is somewhere in /usr/share/pixmaps
[09:15] <_jason> JFlash, lol-- run: sudo apt-get update
[09:15] <BooZee> _jason: or google's analytics for example...
[09:15] <AMCDeathKnight> Thanks
[09:15] <cocox> hi, im doing a "tracepath google.com" and i just get this answer  1:  techi (192.168.1.2)                                    0.279ms pmtu 1500
[09:15] <cocox>  1:  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)                            asymm  2   0.736ms
[09:15] <cocox>  2:  no reply
[09:15] <JFlash> Eleaf, :  I feel I want to.. puke?
[09:15] <Psychotic> just when am minimizing nothing appears on the taskbar there...am using the TAb button to switch between applications how do i fix it ?
[09:15] <Eleaf> why?
[09:15] <cocox> full no replys.............
[09:15] <psycose> shadox, well if you are trying to use ndiswrapper that is you don't have a linux driver for your wifi stuff ... and you want to use a windows driver instead but i may be wrong ;-)
[09:16] <JFlash> _jason, is that the whole command?
[09:16] <Estel|uk> yes
[09:16] <_jason> JFlash, yep, 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:16] <definity> hi
[09:16] <Estel|uk> hi
[09:16] <Psychotic> trappist, i guess i asked the question lol
[09:16] <SilverWolf> hi
[09:17] <definity> can anyone tell me why some time my irc just stops i can type stuff but it dosent appear on the screen so i try to type a command and that dosent work aswell
[09:17] <butcherbird> Psychotic, have u alt-ctr-backspace'd? does it persist when u log back in?
[09:17] <definity> any ideas on how to fix this
[09:17] <trappist> Psychotic: well done.  now if anyone knows the answer you'll hear something.  I personally run kde and have no idea how gnome handles the taskbar.
[09:17] <shadox> psycose uhu that's right
[09:17] <blanky> what's ubuntu's minimum requirements
[09:17] <trappist> definity: you're experiencing network lag
[09:18] <asuramaki> fyhuang: no idea what the problem could be.  maybe someone who is expert with ppc will show up here and can help you.
[09:18] <shadox> psycose i installed (sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper) but what next :s:$
[09:18] <definity> trapist: is there anyway to fix this?
[09:18] <JFlash> _jason, ok, that lasted like 2 seconds. what now?
[09:18] <definity> trappist: is there anyway to fix this?
[09:18] <JFlash> cz it just updated some info i mean
[09:18] <Psychotic>         /q butcherbird
[09:18] <trappist> definity: no.  you're briefly losing communication with the irc server.  not much you can do about it.
[09:18] <dieffel> hello! I want to setup MythTV with Ubuntu 5.10 on my Acer RC500.. anyone know of a good guide to installing MythTV on Ubuntu?
[09:19] <Psychotic> butcherbird,  i didnt get it
[09:19] <BooZee> _jason: another example is here in "http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/flashpro/" - on the top, I can only see a shopping cart and three lines like this: |
[09:19] <blanky> !requirements
[09:19] <ubotu> blanky: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:19] <definity> ok thanks
[09:19] <blanky> what are ubuntu's requiresments
[09:19] <psycose> shadox, please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto step by step, and ask for help ona the step you are having problem ...
[09:19] <_jason> JFlash, first, can I ask you if mplayer installed correctly?
[09:19] <trappist> dieffel: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[09:19] <_jason> JFlash, not the plugin, the actual player
[09:19] <butcherbird> blanky, i ran xubuntu on a 500mhz celeron 256mb ram ok not quite as fast as my vector box but apt-get makes up for that
[09:19] <fyhuang> btw, a related question: on the PPC Ubuntu 5.10 install disk, is there an image at the boot: prompt like on x86 install disks?
[09:19] <blanky> http://www.slackware.com/install/sysreq.php
[09:19] <dieffel> trappist, ok i try that guide
[09:19] <dieffel> trappist, tnx
[09:19] <blanky> wrong channel
[09:20] <blanky> butcherbird, thanks
[09:20] <CaptainMorgan> how do I install wpa?
[09:20] <Estel|uk> I'm trying to get some decent Ubuntu related howtos onto http://wiki.ehow.com (WikiHow)
[09:20] <shadox> psycose, ok i'll try again =)
[09:20] <_jason> BooZee, that's very strange, and you are sure you have those to font packages installed?
[09:20] <JFlash> JFlash, how am i supoded to know ? all i did is issue that command that you read there
[09:20] <Psychotic> ok trappist thanx for ur assist :)
[09:20] <CaptainMorgan> network config only has wep as the strongest..
[09:20] <JFlash> that's all i have done
[09:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell JFlash about mplayer
[09:20] <BooZee> _jason: yes. I've checked it once again, a few minuts ago
[09:21] <_jason> JFlash, you should install mplayer first
[09:21] <definity> whats you best super karabma theme?
[09:21] <BooZee> _jason: maybe I should reinstall them?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> also, what are the few commands to read the network info.. similiar to 'ifconfig' ?
[09:21] <Eleaf> ubotu, tell Eleaf about gnome
[09:21] <_jason> BooZee, you can try... let me see what font packages I have
[09:21] <Eleaf> that's so cool!!!!!
[09:21] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I change the Ubuntu logo at the top menu bar next to Applications?
[09:22] <simonx> help me, please ;-) i cannot install pessulus
[09:22] <coNP> AMCDeathKnight: install some another distibution :)
[09:22] <Eleaf> AMCDeathKnight, the image should be in /usr/share/pixmaps
[09:22] <AMCDeathKnight> Its not in pix,a[s
[09:22] <Eleaf> gnome-logo or something
[09:22] <AMCDeathKnight> if it is im missing it hmm
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> ok... I found the wpasupp in syn... but after installing the packages, I still no change in network config...
[09:23] <Eleaf> hmm
[09:23] <Eleaf> hold on AMCDeathKnight
[09:23] <Psychotic> just when am minimizing nothing appears on the taskbar there...am using the TAb button to switch between applications how do i fix it ?
[09:23] <JFlash> BooZee, if i go to http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/  it wont show me anything in the "player version" box. freaking lame
[09:23] <Surak> Hello people
[09:23] <BooZee> JFlash: ha?
[09:23] <psycose> shadox, if you have a dual boot on windows (copy your wifi windows driver _driver_.inf and may be also _driver_.sys to your ubuntu system) read "Installing the Windows Drivers" step 1. good luck
[09:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell JFlash about flashfonts
[09:24] <crimsun> AMCDeathKnight: ubuntu-artwork: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[09:24] <AMCDeathKnight> Thanks
[09:24] <YoManWazap> Psychotic Psycotic rigth click on the top task bar then New panel choose where to put it (i guess at botton) nw clik over that new panel and then /add to Panel/ then on ?desktop & Window click on /Window Selector... what I guess u r willing to have!!
[09:25] <Surak> Hey, I have an issue that I don't know if it's best suited for this or -devel channel. The fact is that a module for the smartlink modem locks up all machines I try it on breezy.
[09:26] <YoManWazap> Psychotic sorry english is not my maternal language
[09:26] <crimsun> Surak: compiled from ubuntu source?
[09:26] <blanky> hey guys, what's ubuntu's minimum requirements
[09:26] <Surak> crimsun: yes - with module assistant
[09:26] <Surak> apt-get install sl-modem-source
[09:26] <psycose> blanky, a brain
[09:26] <crimsun> Surak: what's the sysrq trace?
[09:26] <Surak> crimsun: ubuntu provides it only as source
[09:26] <JFlash> _jason, ok, i did apt-get and that lasted like 2 seconds. what now?
[09:27] <blanky> psycock, heh
[09:27] <_jason> JFlash, install mplayer, I've linked you to the page
[09:27] <BooZee> _jason: nope. reinstallation of the font packages didn't worked. still can't see it.
[09:27] <blanky> *psycose
[09:27] <Surak> crimsun: how do I know?
[09:27] <butcherbird> blanky, ok the crappiest machine i ever ran ubuntu or debian on was a p133 8mb ram -upgraded to 16mb later with  blackbox install as a WM
[09:28] <JFlash> _jason, will that work in a firefox browser?
[09:28] <blanky> lol i think that's what I have butcherbird
[09:28] <Psychotic> YoManWazap,  i Followed ur steps then when i want to add to panel what should i click on ? app laucnher or main menu or...whatever ??
[09:28] <_jason> BooZee, these are all the font packages I have: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6001, see which ones you are missing
[09:28] <blanky> butcherbird, and on that you installed ubuntu or debian, waht debian, sid/stable/etch
[09:28] <crimsun> Surak: you need to use the alt+sysrq+$i combination(s), see Google
[09:28] <_jason> JFlash, first you need mplayer, then you can install the plugin
[09:28] <sapo`> Can someone look at this picture of my install error and tell me what the hell is going on? http://sheldonmsa.org/ub_err1.jpg
[09:28] <JFlash> oh. i havent read that
[09:28] <yhcheong> how to mount my ntfs partition?
[09:29] <JFlash> ok let me try that
[09:29] <simonx> how can i install pessulus?
[09:29] <Eleaf> yhcheong, are you wondering how to mount it?
[09:29] <butcherbird> blanky, think it was woody..
[09:29] <blanky> butcherbird, lol
[09:29] <yhcheong> yes
[09:29] <Eleaf> I know how to mount nfs
[09:29] <yhcheong> i hv tried
[09:29] <Psychotic> YoManWazap, Got it Man :) thnx
[09:29] <yhcheong> not success
[09:29] <yhcheong> newbie
[09:29] <JFlash> oh boy, 3 hours of fighting and i cant still see  a 1 minute video in a web page.  And this was suposed to be an "introductory" distro !!!!
[09:30] <shadox> psycose, i'm stuck at step 4, i'm receiving 2 errors
[09:30] <sapo`> I cant even get it it to install heh
[09:30] <Eleaf> sudo mount server'sIp:/path/to/nfsShare /path/where/to/mount/share
[09:30] <Eleaf> yhcheong, ^
[09:30] <YoManWazap> Psychotic after clicking on Add to Panel watch on Desktop & Window then choose /Window Selector
[09:30] <Eleaf> so for mine it may be
[09:30] <yhcheong> again plz
[09:30] <Falstius> JFlash: vlc has a nice browser plugin too ... I tend to have trouble with the mplayer one.
[09:30] <Eleaf> yhcheong, sudo mount 192.168.1.101:/mnt/share /mnt/test
[09:30] <Eleaf> that would be mine
[09:30] <Psychotic> YoManWazap,  ok man i got it
[09:30] <JFlash> Falstius, thanks for the plug
[09:31] <YoManWazap> Psychotic good
[09:31] <sapo`> Can someone look at this picture of my install error and tell me what the hell is going on? http://sheldonmsa.org/ub_err1.jpg
[09:31] <psycose> shadox, ok great ;-) Part "Compiling from Source"  step 4 ?
[09:31] <Falstius> eleaf, only after you've setup 192.168.1.101 to share and opened up the firewall some.  And edited /etc/hosts.allow
[09:31] <yhcheong> after that?
[09:31] <fyhuang> so... anyone know anything about whether Ubuntu 5.10 PPC has a graphic at the boot: prompt?
[09:32] <Eleaf> Falstius, yes I know..
[09:32] <shadox> psycose uhu
[09:32] <murphy> psycose... yes... synaptic have found w32codec!!!! but... why "Ign"? Ign=Ignore? :-|
[09:32] <Eleaf> Falstius, I have mine all up and running, Falstius Falstius lol
[09:32] <yhcheong> hello
[09:32] <yhcheong> eleaf
[09:32] <Eleaf> eleaf
[09:32] <yhcheong> after that?
[09:32] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[09:32] <Eleaf> did it mount?
[09:33] <NoWhereMan> I've got a mount problem with a ntfs which worked till now :(
[09:33] <yhcheong> i guess so
[09:33] <korhalf> !mount
[09:33] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:33] <psycose> shadox, ok where is the ndiswrapper-1.1.tar.gz file on your system ? in /usr/src ?
[09:33] <yhcheong> means it already mount?
[09:33] <korhalf> !windowsdrives
[09:33] <ubotu> windowsdrives is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:33] <shadox> psycose: it's on my desktop
[09:33] <ubuntu2> do I need to update the repository?  got this msg: sudo apt-get install acroread
[09:33] <Falstius> why does ubotu use such annoying language?
[09:33] <psycose> murphy well sorry i never had this kind of question ...may be others could help you
[09:33] <shadox> psycose, but it is version 1.7
[09:33] <korhalf> !ubotu
[09:33] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:34] <korhalf> !dumb
[09:34] <ubotu> korhalf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:34] <Estel|uk> :D:D
[09:34] <ubuntu2> sorry:  said pkg couldn't be found
[09:34] <h4x> !sorry
[09:34] <ubotu> h4x: I don't know
[09:34] <korhalf> !korhalf
[09:34] <ubotu> korhalf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:34] <murphy> ok, thank you psycose :-)
[09:34] <Eleaf> !eleaf
[09:34] <ubotu> Eleaf: What?
[09:34] <_jason> !msg the bot
[09:34] <psycose> shadox, ok great, so you will have to do something like $ sudo cp ~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.1.tar.gz /usr/src
[09:34] <Eleaf> !hi
[09:34] <ubotu> hi!
[09:34] <korhalf> !msg ubotu
[09:34] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, korhalf
[09:34] <Eleaf> it talks to me!
[09:34] <korhalf> ..
[09:34] <Eleaf> -CRIES-
[09:35] <Eleaf> The bot is talking!
[09:35] <korhalf> !love
[09:35] <ubotu> Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come.
[09:35] <NoWhereMan> if I try to mount it it says mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/win_e busy _(
[09:35] <Eleaf> !Kensler
[09:35] <ubotu> Eleaf: I give up, what is it?
[09:35] <_jason> stop playing with the bot, msg him if you'd like
[09:35] <yhcheong> excuse me
[09:35] <Eleaf> !it is a puppy!
[09:35] <ubotu> Eleaf: what are you talking about?
[09:35] <yhcheong> i need help
[09:35] <sapo`> Im about to start to cry... no one can help me with my problem
[09:35] <Eleaf> puppy!
[09:35] <psycose> murphy, pleasure ;-) don"t worry i don't think it's something bad ...
[09:35] <yhcheong> totally newbie
[09:35] <asuramaki> !cowbell
[09:35] <ubotu> asuramaki: I give up, what is it?
[09:35] <Eleaf> !puppy
[09:35] <ubotu> Eleaf: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:35] <Falstius> sapo`: only my wife can use guilt to get me to do things ;)
[09:35] <_jason> yhcheong, we can try to help you if you aska  question
[09:35] <Eleaf> !puppy!!!!!!!!
[09:35] <ubotu> I don't know, Eleaf
[09:35] <coNP> Do you know, if art.ubuntu.com will be supported by the (Ubuntu) Gnome Art Manager?
[09:35] <_jason> STOP PLAYING WITH THE BOT
[09:35] <sapo`> Falstius : I'll use guns then
[09:35] <Eleaf> _jason, I'm sorry, It just makes me so happy
[09:35] <shadox> psycose, why the /usr/src at the end of the line? should i replace it by my own identity? => /shadox/desktop ?
[09:35] <yhcheong> how do i mount a ntfs partition?
[09:35] <Eleaf> _jason, It wants to be played with deep inside
[09:36] <Estel|uk> !ntfs
[09:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:36] <_jason> Eleaf, /msg ubotu he will talk to you all day long
[09:36] <Falstius> eh, asking repeatedly helps.  That way someone will get annoyed and answer you ;)
[09:36] <Eleaf> _jason, really?
[09:36] <korhalf> _jason, he says he doesnt know anything
[09:36] <korhalf> _jason, i hate him now
[09:36] <Eleaf> _jason, omg!!!!!!!!  That's so great!
[09:36] <Eleaf> _jason, but I can't private message
[09:36] <korhalf>  you cant /msg?
[09:36] <usr500> what means omg ?
[09:36] <yhcheong> how do i mount a ntfs partition?
[09:36] <Eleaf> _jason, I could never get the registering of my name to work
[09:36] <CaptainMorgan> ok... I found the wpasupp in syn... but after installing the packages, I still see no change in network config...
[09:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell Eleaf about register
[09:36] <Eleaf> _jason, It's too hard
[09:36] <Falstius> usr500: "ouch, my goat"
[09:37] <psycose> shadox, /usr/src ios the destination folder ;-) enter the line like i told you
[09:37] <korhalf> ayo ayo get the yayo yayo
[09:37] <Eleaf> _jason, I tried it on my other username, and I put in a password, I was certain I knew it
[09:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell yhcheong about ntfs
[09:37] <NoWhereMan> can anybody help me with this ntfs partition; I can't mount it anymore
[09:37] <korhalf> ubotu, tell me about linux
[09:37] <Eleaf> _jason, then the server messed up or something and changed my password so now I can't access that account
[09:37] <Falstius> NoWhereMan: what changed?
[09:37] <Eleaf> _jason, it's so lame jason jason jason
[09:37] <shadox> psycose, i did :) it gave no errors only the beginning of a new line, that means it worked?
[09:37] <yhcheong> thank you
[09:38] <Falstius> Eleaf: you can request to have the nickname freed.
[09:38] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: I really don't know... but I can't browse my files anymore
[09:38] <NoWhereMan> it says it's already mounted or busy
[09:38] <NoWhereMan> but it is neither
[09:38] <Eleaf> Falstius, really now?  that's exuberant!
[09:38] <Eleaf> exuberant?
[09:38] <psycose> shadox, ok 1- go to /usr/src $ cd /usr/src    2- make sure the file is here  $ ls
[09:38] <Falstius> Eleaf: exuberant doesn't work that way.
[09:39] <Falstius> NoWhereMan: so if you type say "ls /mnt/myntfsdrive" it doesn't output anything or it says "permission denied" or what?
[09:39] <alexissoft> fhi
[09:39] <Eleaf> Falstius, maybe it does, oh well I got it registered yay
[09:40] <Eleaf> YAY!
[09:40] <NoWhereMan> Falstius:  well, ls doesn't output anything... the dir is empty
[09:40] <shadox> psycose, can you give me the exact line :$ cus i dunno what part of your previance sentence i shoud paste :$
[09:40] <Eleaf> ubotu is so happy!
[09:40] <ubotu> Eleaf: No idea
[09:40] <Eleaf> no!
[09:40] <Surak> crimsun: as I told you, the machines freezes. no alt-sysrq
[09:40] <Falstius> nowhereman, and if you type "mount" the directory isn't listed?
[09:41] <Falstius> er the device.
[09:41] <psycose> Oh Lord shadox  :                     cd /usr/src
[09:41] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: I wish it were. It isn't
[09:41] <shadox> psycose, sry i'm only 3 day's at ubuntu :$
[09:41] <crimsun> Surak: you should still be able to get _something_ with sysrq
[09:41] <psycose> shadox, when there is a $ this mean it's a shell command ;-)
[09:41] <Eleaf> $$
[09:41] <Eleaf> that's a currency sign
[09:41] <Surak> crimsun: no when the machine freezes that much.
[09:41] <psycose> shadox, great well done ;-)
[09:42] <usr500>  why ubuntu have not by default program for listen mp3 like xmms ?
[09:42] <JFlash> _jason, are you still there?
[09:42] <Falstius> NoWhereMan: is the device in /dev?  try ls /dev/hd* (or /dev/sd*) and see if it is there
[09:42] <_jason> JFlash, yes
[09:42] <korhalf> usr500, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:42] <Surak> crimsun: i tried in two machines.
[09:42] <Eleaf> usr500, there is rhythmbox defaul
[09:42] <crimsun> Surak: then you'll have to take the issue upstream to the slmodem guys
[09:42] <shadox> psycose, now every line starts like :" root@ubuntu:/usr/src# "
[09:42] <Surak> that's what I thougt :-)
[09:42] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: yes, it is
[09:42] <Falstius> user500, because those programs are technically illegal in some countries.
[09:42] <NoWhereMan> /dev/hdb1
[09:42] <h4x> thanks usr500, you reminded me, what is a good program for me to listen to mp3's
[09:42] <psycose> usr500 the default program is totem & rythmbox ;-)
[09:42] <korhalf> h4x, quod libet
[09:42] <NoWhereMan> I can see it in the disks manager in menu System | Administration
[09:43] <psycose> shadox, yes ;-)
[09:43] <JFlash> _jason, i downloaded mplayer. what should i do know regarding the missing files on my mplayer mozilla plugin instalation?
[09:43] <_jason> JFlash, mplayer is working?
[09:43] <korhalf> quod libet is written in python, and has media library and 0 crossfade, so things are pretty instant, and again, media library
[09:43] <JFlash> should i just forget about it and install the plging from scratch?
[09:43] <korhalf> also if you close it, it minimizes to an icon
[09:43] <korhalf> so it takes practically 0 screen realestate
[09:43] <JFlash> _jason, mplayer loads without errors
[09:43] <korhalf> Quod Libet > all other mp3 players
[09:43] <usr500> but totem & rhytmbox cannot open mp3 or Video media, i did try it
[09:43] <h4x> lol
[09:43] <h4x> !quod libet
[09:43] <_jason> JFlash, ok now try to install mozilla-mplayer
[09:43] <ubotu> h4x: Not a clue
[09:44] <korhalf> you can search for artists in the directory you have your files in
[09:44] <usr500> mplayer is nice
[09:44] <JFlash> from scratch?
[09:44] <korhalf> say ~/Desktop/Music
[09:44] <Falstius> NoWhereMan: have you tried manually mounting it to a different location? "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs /mnt/newplace"?
[09:44] <psycose> shadox, so   $ ls            list you all the files in your folder ... you should find ndiswrapper-1.7.tar.gz
[09:44] <korhalf> you can search by artist in that directory instead of ls | grep -i "artist name" which is dumb and takes time
[09:44] <JFlash> cz only 2 files where missing out of 19!
[09:44] <_jason> h4x, try amarok if you want a really nice player, if you want something simple but good go with beep media player
[09:44] <usr500> mplayer is best video player for Linux :^)
[09:44] <sony> how do i switch to root
[09:44] <_jason> JFlash, does it still say that now when you try to install?
[09:44] <korhalf> Quod Libet final, you havent seen good till you try that
[09:44] <h4x> any good programs that will play most video files and music files?
[09:44] <sony> in ubuntu
[09:44] <korhalf> BTW
[09:45] <sony> it won't let me in the login window
[09:45] <Falstius> usr500: they have good support for different formats, but the interface is terrible.
[09:45] <korhalf> It supports the GTK engine
[09:45] <korhalf> therefore, theres no need to fin da matching skin for beep media player or xmms
[09:45] <sony> anyone?
[09:45] <JFlash> _jason, no. it said in that pastebin log
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: tried, no luck :(
[09:45] <korhalf> simply start it up and it matches with what you got going
[09:45] <psi> i have updated to the latest kernel and the latest nvidia driver on breezy, and now EVERY program that has to do with GL segfaults.
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: same error
[09:45] <Superbob> sony,  you need to enable in gdm preferences to login graphically
[09:45] <yhcheong> i can't play mp2 file
[09:45] <usr500> Falstius, why terrible ? did you look at gmplayer ?
[09:45] <yhcheong> what should i download to play mp3 ?
[09:45] <sony> what's gdm?
[09:46] <korhalf> yhcheong, Quod Libet
[09:46] <Superbob> sony, system > administration > login screen setup
[09:46] <JFlash> _jason, i just wondered if i could use some sort of fix-missing switch insteal of  issuing a install command againg
[09:46] <Eleaf> gnome display manager
[09:46] <Falstius> usr500, gmplayer has a worse interface than mplayer.  I like players that conform to the system UI standards.
[09:46] <JFlash> again*
[09:46] <mrkoje> ubotu tell yhcheong  about restrictedformat
[09:46] <_jason> JFlash, try just to install first
[09:46] <korhalf> i like Xine
[09:46] <sony> what is it under ?
[09:46] <usr500> ahh, i understand
[09:46] <Falstius> NoWhereMan: you could try to unload and reload the ntfs driver.
[09:46] <JFlash> ok
[09:46] <mrkoje> oh hell
[09:46] <Superbob> sony, on the taskbar (gnome)
[09:47] <mrkoje> ubotu tell yhcheong about RestrictedFormats
[09:47] <sony> somehow i'm missing it
[09:47] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: I already tried to reboot
[09:47] <yhcheong> thanks again
[09:47] <VECA> hello...I have Ubuntu 5.10 and Kernel 2.6.12-9-k7 ... I wish to upgrade to kernel 2.6.14 i686 or k7 via apt-get...can anyone shed a light on this? what repository should I look on?
[09:47] <mrkoje> yhcheong,  You can also try using the EasyUbuntu script to install all the codecs you need to play mp3
[09:47] <crimsun> VECA: it isn't packaged.
[09:47] <VECA> hmm...
[09:47] <korhalf> all you need is LAME to play mp3
[09:47] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: how do I load/unload the drv anyway? (meanwhile I installed the ntfsprog package)
[09:47] <korhalf> why the hell do people make things so hard
[09:47] <mrkoje> ubotu tell yhcheong about easybreezy
[09:47] <korhalf> install quod libet
[09:48] <korhalf> call it a damn day
[09:48] <pussfeller> yeah, i need a newer kernel too
[09:48] <VECA> crimsun do you know what's the latest kernel package available?
[09:48] <korhalf> 2.6.15-rc6
[09:48] <crimsun> VECA: 2.6.12 in Breezy.
[09:48] <snotling> hello, who is the responsible (maintainers) for the 'multiverse' packages ?
[09:48] <VECA> hmm...
[09:48] <crimsun> snotling: we (MOTU) are.
[09:48] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: I CAN do a ntfsls -d /dev/hdb1 so the fsystem is accessible
[09:48] <pussfeller> what would happen if I changed to dapper sources and only install a new kernel
[09:49] <VECA> and there's no way I can upgrade to 2.6.15-rc6 via apt-get?
[09:49] <korhalf> "who is[sic]  the responsible maintainers" the ubuntu community
[09:49] <crimsun> pussfeller: that'd be a bad idea, but don't let me stop you from hanging yourself with the rope that Ubuntu gives you.
[09:49] <eksajm> do i have to install rela player to watch realplayer files or can i just download a codec to mplayer or xine?
[09:49] <h4x> my computer is doing that freeze thing now again. :(
[09:49] <korhalf> VECA, no, if it isn't in the repository, don't bother
[09:49] <sony> where's the gdm :(
[09:49] <korhalf> VECA, else, you can compil eit of course
[09:49] <VECA> yeah, I know
[09:49] <pussfeller> VECA: you can try the method I proposed and come back to me with the results :)
[09:49] <korhalf> * root_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[09:49] <snotling> crimsun: so is it possible to ask tp 'update' a package ?
[09:49] <korhalf> someone actually went on here as root?
[09:49] <Eleaf> sony, gdm is gnome display manager
[09:49] <crimsun> snotling: only in Dapper.
[09:49] <VECA> I was just trying to skip that step =).. ehehe
[09:50] <korhalf> VECA, yeah, if you arent comfortable with compiling your kernel
[09:50] <korhalf> VECA, id recommend just waiting, do you even have a reason to update?
[09:50] <sapo`> Can someone look at this picture of my install error and tell me what the hell is going on? http://sheldonmsa.org/ub_err1.jpg
[09:50] <snotling> crimsun: i see. is there a wishlist somewhere to ask for this ?
[09:50] <_jason> JFlash, did it work this time>
[09:51] <crimsun> snotling: the ubuntu-motu mailing list, #ubuntu-motu, or the wiki for UniverseCandidates
[09:51] <psycose> shadox, so all ok ?
[09:51] <pussfeller> i wanna get my ralink usb stick working and I need 2.6.13 at least to compile newer drivers
[09:51] <korhalf> Kernel Panic!!
[09:51] <NoWhereMan> Falstius: any clue?
[09:51] <__filip_> Is gparted in the live-cd of ubuntu?
[09:51] <snotling> crimsun: thanks for the info, i'll have a look
[09:51] <korhalf> pussfeller, sorry ROC, you gotta sait
[09:51] <VECA> I'm not..and I was just trying to find some kind of solution besides installing flight cd2 or compiling new kernel...
[09:51] <korhalf> wait even
[09:51] <NoWhereMan> shall I have to rebbot and scandisk the partition?
[09:51] <JFlash> _jason, i think it isntalled but mplayer not working right on cbsvideo
[09:52] <psycose> __filip_ yes but back up your data before doing dangerous things ...
[09:52] <JFlash> let me try another web page
[09:52] <_jason> JFlash, okay
[09:52] <pussfeller> im going to install dapper on my spare hd like a good safe person
[09:52] <VECA> I have LVM installed...it was such a pain to put it together...
[09:52] <__filip_> psycose: thanx
[09:52] <dwalton59> can any onpe help me install firefox
[09:52] <_jason> dwalton59, you already have firefox
[09:52] <__filip_> apt-get install firefox
[09:53] <dwalton59> I what to try 1.7
[09:53] <_jason> dwalton59, that's going to be hard
[09:53] <dwalton59> i have it extracted
[09:53] <_jason> dwalton59, do you mean 1.5?
[09:53] <dwalton59> but what do i do from here
[09:54] <_jason> dwalton59, it isn't recommended, do you still want to do it?
[09:54] <dwalton59> why is it not recomended
[09:54] <pussfeller> i heard 1.5 has probs on linux
[09:54] <pussfeller> or probs in general anyways
[09:54] <_jason> dwalton59, because there is no package for it
[09:55] <shadox> psycose, sry for late reaction
[09:55] <Estel|uk> There are some dependency problems on Ubuntu
[09:55] <shadox> psycose, no it didn't work
[09:55] <pussfeller> but you can just start it from the dir you downloaded it in probably
[09:55] <pussfeller> dont really have to install
[09:55] <shadox> psycose: "bash: $: command  not found "
[09:55] <phibxr> to the one who suggested quod libet: thanks! i've played with it for about ten minutes, and it seems great. like rhythmbox on steroids.
[09:56] <JFlash> Falstius, what's that player name again?
[09:56] <psycose> shadox, ok i'm really sorry but when i write $ ls    you should just enter  ls           ;-)
[09:56] <dwalton59> ok the reson that I what to try it is I am having a problem getting amule to download form firefox
[09:56] <shadox> psycose, aah k sry :$ i'm noob :(
[09:57] <ubuBambini> hello, whats the pass for root in the livecd?
[09:57] <_jason> JFlash, he recommended vlc, what's wrong with mplayer
[09:57] <shadox> psycose yes, it displayd the filename like you said
[09:57] <lampshade> shadox, keep in mind you can also complete entries you type in by pressing tab.  Don't laugh, this is something I didn't know about when I started.
[09:58] <ubuBambini> hello, whats the pass for root in the livecd? thanks
[09:58] <psycose> shadox, ok so we are in /usr/src folder , then hit # tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.1.tar.gz
[09:58] <_jason> ubuBambini, I don't think there is one
[09:58] <shadox> psycose, k, one sec
[09:59] <eksajm> has anyone installed realplayer?
[09:59] <_jason> ubuBambini, why do you need the root pass?
[09:59] <YoManWazap> Gxine the best
[09:59] <butcherbird> ubuBambini, 'sudo whatever' or sudo -i in terminal for a root term
[09:59] <sapo`> Can someone look at this picture of my install error and tell me what the hell is going on? http://sheldonmsa.org/ub_err1.jpg
[10:00] <ubuBambini> thank you butcherbird
[10:00] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about eciadsl?
[10:00] <shadox> psycose, with or without the #?
[10:00] <djm62> sapo`: something very strange
[10:00] <root_> i have a questio
[10:00] <eksajm> do you guys have realplayer installed? or can i find some smart and nice codec so that mplayer can play realplayer files?
[10:01] <shadox> psycose hmm seems to be with #
[10:01] <root_> a question
[10:01] <_jason> eksajm, w32codecs
[10:01] <sapo`> djm62 : it sure is... I tried over 3 times to install using a CD and a DVD
[10:01] <djm62> sapo`: have you checked the integrity of the install disc? has this happened more than once?
[10:01] <shadox> psycose a new line did start
[10:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell eksajm about w32codecs
[10:01] <mrkoje> sapo`,  you panic
[10:01] <yhcheong> sorry
[10:01] <sapo`> mrkoje : huh?
[10:01] <root_> where apt saves the repositories packages lists
[10:01] <yhcheong> i tried
[10:01] <_jason> eksajm, if you scroll down on that page you will find instructions for installing realplayer as well
[10:01] <sapo`> djm62 : yes it has happened over 3 times now with a CD and a DVD
[10:01] <psycose> shadox, # is when your are root $ is when you are normal user, as i know you are root on your terminal i write # ... sorry
[10:01] <yhcheong> could not play the mp3 file also
[10:02] <eksajm> _jason, okey thanks!
[10:02] <djm62> sapo`: what sort of machine are you on?
[10:02] <yhcheong> need help
[10:02] <yhcheong> can anyone guide me?
[10:02] <djm62> sapo`: is it known-good hardware?
[10:02] <sapo`> djm62 : AMD64, yes it is
[10:02] <psycose> shadox, ok great so go for step 5 ....
[10:02] <sapo`> djm62 : no cheap hardware all custom built
[10:02] <mrkoje> sapo` I was joking... kernal panic,,, you panic.. never mind
[10:02] <djm62> sapo`: and you're using the 64 bit install disc/kernel?
[10:02] <sapo`> djm62 : yes
[10:02] <shadox> psycose k if any other probs i'll tell you :)  thnx for so far
[10:03] <sapo`> djm62 : I have both the Install CD and DVD same thing
[10:03] <djm62> sapo`: did you build it? has it run any other OSes?
[10:03] <djm62> does anyone know how to get memtestx86 going from the install disc/k?
[10:04] <sapo`> djm62 : yes I built the machine or are you talking about something else... It's been running XP for over 6 months and it run SUSE and Knoppix no problem
[10:04] <sapo`> ran*
[10:04] <shadox> psycose, step 5 gives error, :s
[10:04] <djm62> sapo`: :( looks like this is a problem with ubu (possibly fixed by later kernel updates, but that won't help you install)
[10:05] <yhcheong> am i annoying?
[10:05] <yhcheong> why no one wants help me
[10:05] <yhcheong> :(
[10:05] <djk_> mmh, is there a prog in the repos to find out if a cd has bad blocks?
[10:05] <sapo`> djm62 : bleh... I guess I should install SUSE again or do you know any similar distro to Ubuntu
[10:05] <djm62> yhcheong: state your question, and wait a bit
[10:06] <psycose> shadox, desribe
[10:06] <HymnToLife> hey guys, d'you have any idea why my middle mouse button doesn't work for copy/paste ?
[10:06] <yhcheong> :)
[10:06] <yhcheong> ok
[10:06] <snotling> crimsun: i've read read the wiki you told me -> so what should I do ? send an email to the mailing list ? the package is already in breezy/dapper but at an old version
[10:06] <spanglesontoast> no one know much about eciadsl?
[10:06] <YoManWazap> Yhcheong go there everything about your questions are there :  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:06] <crimsun> snotling: we don't touch breezy except for security/grave updates
[10:06] <djm62> sapo`: pragmatically I'd say work with SuSe if SUSE works with your hardware... otherwise, you could install a /minimal/ debian set up and try to convert that to ubuntu
[10:06] <crimsun> snotling: dapper is feasible
[10:07] <yhcheong> the problem is i couldn'd follow the steps
[10:07] <yhcheong> do you get what i mean?
[10:07] <h4x> i ran easybreezy. it did everything. (it took about 45 minutes) and then it quit. as expected. but no new programs can be found!
[10:08] <butcherbird> yhcheong, what was your problem again?
[10:08] <h4x> can anybody help me?
[10:08] <djm62> sapo`: IE, install just enough for net access and a text editor, then add the ubuntu repositories to your sources.list
[10:08] <yhcheong> could not get lock /var
[10:09] <leonardo> where is the italian channel
[10:09] <leonardo> ?
[10:09] <snotling> crimsun: ok so go for dapper. what is the next step to get this package ("gpac") updated ?
[10:09] <djm62> yhcheong: are you using sudo correctly? is another package thing open?
[10:09] <h4x> _jason, can you help me with easybreezy
[10:09] <butcherbird> !it
[10:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:09] <_jason> h4x, I know nothing about it.  Personally I think it's best if you set that stuff up manually so you actually learn the basics of using linux.
[10:09] <k0rnz> ubotu: si
[10:09] <ubotu> k0rnz: I give up, what is it?
[10:10] <yhcheong> nope
[10:10] <leonardo> grazie! goodbye!
[10:10] <h4x> thanks
[10:10] <yhcheong> i'm a newbie
[10:10] <h4x> can you instant message me _jason?
[10:10] <djm62> yhcheong: what command are you typing, exactly?
[10:10] <_jason> h4x, /j #easyubuntu
[10:10] <yhcheong> that's why i'm stucked
[10:10] <pm> moge pokazac wam dupe?
[10:11] <shadox> psycose : bash:cd: /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.7 isn't a folder
[10:11] <yhcheong> wait a minute
[10:11] <yhcheong> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[10:11] <crimsun> snotling: file a bug on malone for it
[10:12] <djm62> yhcheong: and Synaptic Package Manager or Add Packages isn't running?
[10:12] <_jason> after read bash's manual file I thought that adding a directory to my path using ~/.bash_profile would be equivalent to adding it in /etc/profile.  However, the directory I added is not getting added to my path.  Works fine if I 'source ~/.bash_profile'.  What am I doing/understanding incorrectly?
[10:12] <snotling> crimsun: ok, cheers :-)
[10:13] <psycose> shadox, $ ls /usr/src        paste me the output
[10:13] <yhcheong> i couldn't found the software sources
[10:13] <NoWhereMan> hi I'm still the one of some minutes ago
[10:14] <yhcheong> nevermind
[10:14] <djm62> yhcheong: solved?
[10:14] <yhcheong> i trying the ubuntuguide steps
[10:14] <NoWhereMan> same problem with ntfs; chkdsk'd the partition. no errors
[10:14] <yhcheong> it's more easier
[10:14] <djm62> yhcheong: no!
[10:14] <yhcheong> why?
[10:14] <yhcheong> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:14] <djm62> !ubuntuguide
[10:14] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[10:14] <NoWhereMan> I can't mount it anymore :(
[10:15] <NoWhereMan> device already mounted or busy
[10:15] <yhcheong> oooo
[10:15] <NoWhereMan> and it is neither :(
[10:15] <djm62> NoWhereMan: if you type mount, is it any
[10:15] <yhcheong> then how?
[10:15] <NoWhereMan> djm62: no
[10:16] <NoWhereMan> i really don't know what to do :(
[10:16] <NoWhereMan> the other partitions work fine :(
[10:16] <djm62> NoWhereMan: does windows see it ok?
[10:16] <h4x> how do you see what arch of ubuntu your running
[10:16] <Raskall> lspci shows a lot of "Unknown device"s. I have installed drivers/modules for all my hardware, so everything works. Is there a way to make lspci recognize the hardware?
[10:17] <djm62> h4x: uname -a
[10:17] <djm62> (somewhere in there)
[10:17] <Raskall> my nvidia card is for example: 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0242 (rev a2)
[10:17] <h4x> thank you djm62
[10:17] <NoWhereMan> djm62: yes it looks so. chkdsk found 76kb in damaged sectors but it's a lot time I have them, and I've always been able to read the partition in linux :(
[10:18] <snotling> crimsun: by the way, is it normal that my package is unknown on malone (but exists on packages.ubuntu.com for dapper of course) ?
[10:18] <cliebow_> ive compiles quickcam module for 2.6.12-10-386..but no /dev/video devices exist./even manually creating them doe not connect to camera...any comment??
[10:18] <djm62> NoWhereMan: I was wondering if windows would have the voodoo to fix it (since it's designed not to go well with linux)
[10:18] <NoWhereMan> djm62: already chkdsk'd
[10:19] <crimsun> snotling: you can ask for it to be added in #launchpad
[10:19] <bobbyd> does anyone here use cedega under ubuntu? I can't get Battlefield 2 to install.
[10:19] <NoWhereMan> djm62: now I can't see the partition in Gnome Computer window anymore
[10:19] <Raskall> ahh... google helped. update-pciids fixed it
[10:20] <NoWhereMan> mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/win_e busy
[10:20] <NoWhereMan> -__-'
[10:20] <shadox> psycose, just a sec,
[10:21] <djm62> NoWhereMan: have you tried it from a livecd?
[10:21] <NoWhereMan> actually not, but since it worked till now, I suppose it would work
[10:21] <djm62> NoWhereMan: (in case your linux install has gotten confused_
[10:21] <butcherbird> NoWhereMan, not able to mount to a diff directory either?
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> butcherbird: unfortunately not
[10:22] <yhcheong> well
[10:22] <yhcheong> i couldn't find the system configuration
[10:22] <yhcheong> mine is 5.04
[10:22] <yhcheong> oops
[10:22] <yhcheong> sorry
[10:22] <capitals> how do you give a user su privileges in the x environment?
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> butcherbird: I tried editing the fstab
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> oooo
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> let me think
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> wrong permissions on the dir ??
[10:22] <rambo3> man addusr
[10:22] <NoWhereMan> maybe?
[10:23] <djk_> is there a prog in the repos to find out if a cd has bad blocks?
[10:23] <eksajm> hej guys. i have some problem with my sound. I get this error message.. many of it. alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.155 msecs. resetting stream0.7% 3 0 85%
[10:23] <eksajm> over and over again
[10:23] <NoWhereMan> no it's not :(
[10:23] <eksajm> anyone knows what it is
[10:23] <_jason> capitals, memebers of the admin group get sudo privileges
[10:23] <_jason> eksajm, yes
[10:24] <NoWhereMan> damnit, what shall I do??
[10:24] <_jason> ubotu, tell eksajm about mplayer
[10:24] <djm62> djk_: md5sum
[10:24] <raj> hi all, i have searched the forums long and wide, could someone tell me, i am running gnomad2 installed through the "simple" app installation method, it works fine, but it only works in root [i.e. sudo gnomad2]  mode. can this be changed, and if so, how?? cheers
[10:24] <_jason> eksajm, do you use esd?
[10:24] <eksajm> _jason, dont know
[10:24] <djk_> djm62: and how would i use that with an audiocd?
[10:24] <eksajm> i have it installed i think
[10:24] <eksajm> but i am not sure
[10:24] <_jason> eksajm, then you probably do, follow the guide at the bottom of the link ubotu sent you
[10:25] <eksajm> okey.. thx again
[10:25] <djm62> djk_: oh :( cdparanoia can check audio CDs (I imagine it can do it without necessarily ripping it)
[10:25] <korhalf> its not neccessary
[10:25] <korhalf> just using this as cover. alt tabbing back to pr0n
[10:26] <djk_> djm62: it's rather weird, i can rip all files, except track15..ripping isn't even necessary, since the cd already provides flac, ogg, mp3 and wav..
[10:26] <NoWhereMan> guys, any clue with this? :(
[10:26] <JFlash> _jason, help !!!    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6002
[10:26] <djm62> djk_: so it's not a standard audio CD?
[10:27] <eksajm> _jason, did that.. and got this in mplayer term: [AO ESD]  esd_open_sound failed: No such file or directory
[10:27] <eksajm> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[10:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell JFlash about deb
[10:27] <_jason> eksajm, ok guess you do not use esd
[10:27] <eksajm> maybe i should
[10:27] <_jason> eksajm, no
[10:27] <_jason> eksajm, esd sucks :)
[10:27] <djk_> djm62: well, not really i suppose
[10:27] <crimsun> eksajm: just use ALSA: -ao alsa
[10:27] <djm62> djk_: also, where do you get such good suppliers of music? do they do rock/hip-hop?
[10:27] <eksajm> okey ill change the config
[10:27] <_jason> eksajm, i know how to fix it, let me find the option
[10:27] <raj> anyone?
[10:28] <eksajm> _jason, ao=alsa
[10:28] <djm62> djk_: are you having problems playing it on a normal CD-player?
[10:28] <eksajm> ?
[10:28] <djk_> djm62: it's a jose carreras - luciano pavarotti - christmas cd :)
[10:28] <eksajm> is that it?
[10:28] <djk_> djm62: nope
[10:28] <Aton> hello
[10:28] <_jason> eksajm, that was probably default, if the error shows up add: srate=48000 to the bottom of your conf file
[10:28] <djm62> djk_: ah...not my preferred era, but pretty sweet ;)
[10:29] <Aton> can some1 tell me how to get  libstdc++.so.5
[10:29] <_jason> Aton, libstdc++5
[10:30] <zelevw> how can i configure xmame in ubuntu 5.10?  i can get games to play but only arrow keys work...for example, i cant jump in dkong...thanks
[10:30] <eksajm> _jason, good it works
[10:30] <Aton> how can i inplant it on ubuntu ?
[10:30] <eksajm> but if esb sucks, why is it default?
[10:30] <djk_> djm62: i wonder if i could make a 1:1 copy of it with k3b, think that might work?
[10:30] <_jason> eksajm, crimsun is the man to talk to about that.  I jsut think it sucks from personal experience
[10:31] <Madeye> guys How to add pythondoc path to my env?
[10:31] <Aton> oh thanx i got it now
[10:31] <eksajm> okey,.. well it didnt work for me either so ;)
[10:31] <eksajm> its strange i have, since i changed from gentoo to ubunto, i have had problems with mplayer. it wont go to full screen
[10:31] <_jason> eksajm, use xv as the video output
[10:32] <eksajm> you have heard about that problem?
[10:32] <Aton> _jason, thanx for the help i apreciated it
[10:32] <eksajm> xv?
[10:32] <crimsun> snotling: as a heads up, we may not be doing anything with gpac in the near future (or we may depending on upstream's productivity), see the huge number of changes in http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gpac/gpac/Changelog?rev=1.25&view=markup
[10:32] <jordo23> Anyone know how to switch view profiles in Konq?
[10:32] <_jason> Aton, your welcome, you may which to install the package 'apt-file' which will let you search for packages that contain a file
[10:32] <_jason> Aton, wish even
[10:32] <butcherbird> eksajm, try mplayer -vo xv filename then hit f for full screen
[10:32] <djm62> djk_: where is it not playing?
[10:32] <_jason> eksajm, yes, you can do it in the conf file also
[10:33] <eksajm> vo=xv?
[10:33] <Aton> sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[10:33] <Aton>  voked for me
[10:33] <_jason> eksajm, yes
[10:33] <djk_> djm62: track15.. it plays fine in a normal cdplayer..
[10:33] <eksajm> now it works..
[10:33] <djm62> djk_: and where doesn't it play?
[10:33] <eksajm> thx again
[10:33] <_jason> eksajm, np
[10:33] <djk_> djm62: on my pc.
[10:33] <jeff__> I upgraded hoary to breezy, but now I get all these messages about "couldn't stat source package ...", the upgrade worked (It's now a breezy machine), but how do I get rid of all these clutter messages?
[10:33] <Aton> _jason i just had a wrong name of the file ...
[10:33] <_jason> Aton, :)
[10:33] <djk_> djm62: but only track15 ..the others play fine
[10:34] <Aton> tnx again
[10:34] <Aton> byby
[10:34] <yhcheong> http://pastebin.com/473981
[10:34] <yhcheong> help
[10:34] <yhcheong> :)
[10:34] <snotling> crimsun: do you mean you will wait for a 'stable' gpac release ?
[10:34] <djm62> djk_: I suspect it's a  weird thing about the CD, rather than a random error
[10:34] <jhenn> what package do i need to install to install the kubuntu stuff?
[10:34] <djk_> djm62: i've tried cleaning it as well.
[10:34] <crimsun> snotling: if it's within a few weeks, yes
[10:35] <apokryphos> jhenn: kubuntu-desktop
[10:35] <jeff__> nobody knows?
[10:35] <jhenn> apokryphos: thanks
[10:35] <snotling> crimsun: and if it's not ? couldn't you use the latest 0.4.0 release ? by the way, it may be a good idea to separate gpac and libgpac, as they seem to have done in BSD ports
[10:35] <yhcheong> what is the problem?
[10:35] <Madeye> guys How to add pythondoc path to my env?
[10:35] <yhcheong> http://pastebin.com/473981
[10:35] <djm62> djk_: I've had problems with nonstandard non-audio CDs before...cdparanoia can read most things, in my experience (or use the flac tracks and burn a standard audio CD)
[10:36] <crimsun> snotling: what uses gpac as a lib that's in ubuntu's repo?
[10:36] <djk_> djm62: well, i would use the flac ones.. but again.. track15 won't let me copy it..
[10:36] <djm62> ?!?
[10:37] <djk_> djm62: exactly my thoughts..
[10:37] <djk_> djm62: i can't copy track15 of any provided track15 variations...
[10:37] <djm62> djk_: I'm not sure what you're describing...you have track15 in several formats, NONE of which work on your PC?
[10:37] <LabThug> ok, I'm trying to setup dual monitors in breezy.  I've got it to the point, where I have the mouse able to go from one screen to the other, but each screen is independant (i.e. both have a menu, apps can't cross, etc.)  Ideas?
[10:37] <djk_> djm62: exactly
[10:38] <djk_> djm62: but all others, in all formats, can be copied and played.
[10:38] <jeff__> fucking shitty
[10:38] <djm62> djk_: one format broke is tragic, all of them begins to look like carelessness ;)
[10:38] <yhcheong> no one could help me
[10:38] <yhcheong> :)
[10:38] <yhcheong> ?
[10:38] <snotling> crimsun: you must be right. i thought about this because now gpac can be used as a lib only to develop other software
[10:39] <djk_> djm62: well yes. but why can i play it fine on a standard cdplayer..
[10:39] <djm62> yhcheong: your problem is you need to ask questions more effectively... we have been trying
[10:39] <djm62> djk_: what I mean is, is it designed not to work on PC?
[10:39] <yhcheong> http://pastebin.com/473981
[10:39] <jeff__> don't I get booted for that? Christ Almighty,
[10:39] <yhcheong> you will get it clear when you see this rite?
[10:40] <butcherbird> yhcheong, there might be a better way for u to do this but.. type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  then uncomment ( remove the # in front of any urls) and copy any entries for universe paste them and change universe to multiverse so that u have one url for universe and one for multiverse save your changes and type sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[10:40] <djk_> djm62: well, if it was, what's flac/ogg/mp3 doing on there.. besides, it doesn't mention copyprotetction
[10:40] <korhalf> jeff__, theres no op
[10:40] <yhcheong> trying
[10:40] <yhcheong> thanks alot
[10:41] <korhalf> ahah
[10:42] <fluvvell> can anyone help with a samba share ip address caching problem?
[10:42] <djm62> djk_: you're right.  I'm pretty flummoxed: beyond trying cdparanoia, you could try come proprietary apps (in case there's skullduggery afoot)
[10:43] <fluvvell> I've changed the ip address of my ubuntu samba server and smbtree complains it cant find it on the old ip address
[10:43] <fluvvell> I'm looking for a way to flush a cache somehow
[10:43] <JFlash> ok i'm trying to download the   w32codecs from  >>>  http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:43] <__filip_> i run an ubuntu 5,10 live-cd and i whant to resize a partition and i make the change in gparted but when i hit apply i get an error that say my partition is busy, what should i do?
[10:43] <_jason> what would be the proper location to add a directory to my path?  I've found out that profile isn't sourced when I log into gnome so that won't work.  Putting it in .bashrc isn't really smart.  Where does the path variable get set?
[10:43] <nalioth> JFlash: and what is happening?
[10:43] <JFlash> but when it gets to 4.6 meg  it hangs
[10:44] <__filip_> it is my hda5
[10:44] <JFlash> evrytime
[10:44] <djk_> djm62: skullduggery :) nice word.
[10:44] <nalioth> JFlash: use wget
[10:44] <JFlash> what is wget?
[10:44] <djm62> _jason: is your .bash_profile chmod-ed +x?
[10:44] <apokryphos> JFlash: very strange. Try wget -c http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:45] <_jason> djm62, no, is yours?  I thought it was just sourced
[10:45] <djm62> JFlash: it downloads things from the web without you opening a web-browser
[10:45] <apokryphos> JFlash: in the directory where you tried to download it to
[10:45] <djm62> _jason: I don't use bash, but ISTR .bash_profile gets run
[10:45] <JFlash> says it's text/htm
[10:45] <djm62> _jason: I could be completely wrong, it's been a while
[10:45] <JFlash> show be an errror
[10:46] <pm> EJ, POKAZAC WAM DUPE???
[10:47] <asuramaki> pm: nahhh... not really.
[10:47] <apokryphos> JFlash: what?
[10:47] <_jason> djm62, I've found 2 threads on the forums saying that it won't source for them either and read a page that says WM don't usually source the profile files.  It gets sourced if I log in at with a login prompt by pressing ctrl+alt+f1, just not if I log into gnome.
[10:47] <apokryphos> JFlash: if there's an error, pastebin it with the command you put in, if you can.
[10:47] <JFlash> yea it says its a 200 bites download
[10:47] <pm> asuramaki, WHY?
[10:47] <meepy> how do i unpack a tar file from console?
[10:47] <JFlash> i need an alternative repository for the w32codecs, please?
[10:47] <_jason> meepy, tar xvzf filename.tar
[10:47] <sethk> _jason, there are profile files that are sourced on a login, and others that are sourced for every new shell
[10:47] <immolo> hello for a new user would kubuntu or the ubuntu be better?
[10:47] <_jason> meepy, nvr mnd that is wrong
[10:48] <sethk> _jason, that's standard behavior, and is true for all the distros
[10:48] <meepy> Thanks
[10:48] <apokryphos> immolo: you'll get differing opinions. My suggestion is try them both. Maybe with kubuntu first :P
[10:48] <asuramaki> immolo: they are about the same either way...just look and act a little different
[10:48] <immolo> not my machine I use flux
[10:48] <djm62> immolo: new to computers or new to linux?
[10:48] <sethk> meepy, if it isn't a compressed tar, tar xvf tarfilename
[10:48] <SmokeTheDank> hello. I just upgraded and when I boot I get an error. X cant start.
[10:48] <_jason> sethk, yes, but I am wondering where I should change my path (not in .bashrc because it will source everytime I open a terminal)
[10:48] <pm> KTO CHCE ZOBACZYC MOJA DUPE????????
[10:48] <sethk> _jason, the usual place is .bash_profile
[10:48] <immolo> and they are new to linux and know some of windows
[10:49] <apokryphos> pm: this is obviously an English channel; and please drop the caps.
[10:49] <meepy> Thanks!
[10:49] <_jason> sethk, you just told me it won't get sourced
[10:49] <sethk> _jason, no, I said it is sourced only for login shells
[10:49] <asuramaki> pm: this is an english channel...
[10:49] <pm> nur fur englisch?
[10:49] <SmokeTheDank> when I boot I get an error that x wont start
[10:49] <immolo> I suppose it's an gnome vs kde issue then for me :P
[10:49] <pm> it's discriminating
[10:49] <_jason> sethk, okay, I'd like to have it changed in gnome
[10:49] <sethk> SmokeTheDank, look at your x log file for details
[10:49] <SmokeTheDank> it says something like etc/x11/x si not exucutable
[10:49] <apokryphos> pm: it's a simple fact. There are other ubuntu non-English channels. See /topic
[10:49] <SmokeTheDank> sethk: ya it says that etc/x11/c is nto executable
[10:50] <sethk> _jason, don't know what you mean by "changed in gnome".  You are running a shell
[10:50] <JFlash> eichen spraich english fuckenten hotch girls?
[10:50] <djm62> immolo: if they aren't power users, it probably doesn't matter
[10:50] <sethk> SmokeTheDank, that can't be the message.  has to be /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[10:50] <apokryphos> JFlash: what are you doing?
[10:50] <pm> f*cking english!
[10:50] <asuramaki> SmokeTheDank: smoke less dank whilst operating the linux
[10:50] <_jason> sethk, when I run gnome-terminal, I'd like to have a directory added to the path
[10:50] <SmokeTheDank> sethk: ya its that
[10:50] <JFlash> LOL
[10:50] <djm62> !polish
[10:50] <ubotu> Wish i knew, djm62
[10:50] <pm> i hate this language
[10:50] <djm62> !pl
[10:50] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[10:51] <SmokeTheDank> asuramaki: lol I doubt its my bud that giving me the problem =)
[10:51] <gn0me> When I try to apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx I get an error and it stops. :-\
[10:51] <sethk> _jason, the terminal program is just that, a terminal program.  the path is related only to the shell program, which is bash unless you change it
[10:51] <apokryphos> pm: please drop the trolling.
[10:51] <sethk> _jason, bash sources .bashrc for every shell, and .bash_profile for login shells.
[10:51] <asuramaki> pm: pssst...i just spoke with English on the phone...and it hates you too!
[10:51] <pm> ubotu, i know :)
[10:51] <ubotu> pm: What?
[10:51] <SmokeTheDank> sethk: any idea on what would help me?
[10:51] <asuramaki> SmokeTheDank: rock on!  don't go overboard man...moderation is the key!
[10:51] <sethk> SmokeTheDank, I'd try to reinstall X
[10:51] <_jason> sethk, but when i start gnome-terminal, it doesn't set the path everytime does it?  that must be set already?
[10:51] <JFlash> apokryphos, download is back to normal now thank you!
[10:51] <pm> i know about #ununtu.pl
[10:52] <sethk> SmokeTheDank, because if X is not there or not executable the installation didn't complete normally
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know if the CL56 is somewhat compatible with Breezy ?
[10:52] <SmokeTheDank> sethk: damnit. So I have to redo everything?
[10:53] <immolo> djk_, ok thanks and do you know if the intel 536EP modem works out of the box?
[10:53] <sethk> SmokeTheDank, probably not, no
[10:53] <CaptainMorgan> not expecting complete... but Ive never run it on the comp
[10:53] <djk_> immolo: what? wrong guy..
[10:53] <sethk> SmokeTheDank, it won't repeat the downloads, so it won't take too long
[10:54] <SmokeTheDank> sethk: I see so just sudo d-ist upgarde again?
[10:54] <_jason> sethk, maybe I'm not being clear.  What I mean is, when I start gnome-terminal, it doesn't set the path to include /usr/bin (because I can't find any mention of it in bashrc).  That has already been set right?
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> uhm... both Hoary and.. now Breezy hang at install... cd insert actually
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> after pressing <enter> at the installation screen...
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> guess it's not compatible..
[10:55] <sethk> _jason, usually it is set in .bash_profile or in /etc/profile
[10:55] <MrProper_> _jason, open up a gnome-terminal and do echo $PATH and see if /usr/bin is in the list
[10:56] <MrProper_> _jason, or just set it in /etc/profile
[10:56] <gn0me> _jason: Could also add a PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin in your ~/.bashrc, no?
[10:56] <_jason> sethk, MrProper_  okay I am going to add a random directory to /etc/profile and see if it gets sourced.  I know it doesn't for ~/.bash_profile
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> what's the reason for an install hang ?
[10:57] <_jason> gn0me, yes that would work, but why should it add it everytime.  It should just be there like /usr/bin is
[10:57] <_jason> brb
[10:57] <immolo> is there a supported hardware list for 5.10?
[10:57] <sethk> _jason, as I said, .bash_profile is sourced _only_ for a login shell.  So of course it _isn't_ sourced for non-login shells.  .bashrc is always sourced.
[10:57] <_jason> sethk, then how does /usr/bin end up in my path?
[10:58] <sethk> _jason, I told you already
[10:58] <_jason> sethk, sorry I missed it, can you repeat it please?
[10:58] <sethk> _jason, /etc/profile
[10:58] <ryjeq> :)
[10:58] <sethk> _jason, there is also /etc/bashrc
[10:58] <MrProper_> _jason, use /etc/profile for global or ~/.bashrc for local
[10:59] <sethk> _jason, more properly, use /etc/profile or .bash_profile for login shells, use /etc/bashrc or .bashrc for non-login shells.
[10:59] <sethk> _jason, the ones in /etc control all user's variables, the ones in $HOME are (obviously) specific to one user
[10:59] <_jason> okay let me try /etc/profile
[11:00] <JFlash> how do i uninstall Totem from mozilla?
[11:00] <JFlash> i have installed w32plugins but i still cant see video!!
[11:00] <sethk> _jason, ok, but remember that is _only_ for login shells.  So don't come back and tell us it didn't work for your non-login shell
[11:00] <_jason> sethk, okay I am not understanding you.  If /usr/bin ends up in my path because it is in /etc/profile, then why is it that I can't add another directory there?
[11:01] <sethk> _jason, I didn't say it sends up in your path because of /etc/profile.  I said it ends up in your path because of /etc/profile for _login shells_ and /etc/bashrc for non-login shells
[11:01] <pm> djm62, sorry about that dork shutdownrunner
[11:02] <sethk> _jason, if you are confused about login vs non-login shells, look at man bash
[11:02] <lowman> hello room
[11:03] <djm62> pm: no worries...technically he was right enough
[11:03] <_jason> sethk, there's no mention of 'path' in /etc/bash.bashrc or ~/.bashrc.  Is it a different file?  Thanks for taking the time to explaint his to me by the way
[11:03] <sethk> _jason, I didn't say /etc/bash.bashrc, I said /etc/bashrc
[11:03] <shutdownrunner> pm:well, I don't consider myself a dork. I just pointed out that it was a Polish speaking channel
[11:03] <_jason> sethk, I don't have such a file
[11:04] <sethk> _jason, in ubuntu, they've put a reference to /etc/bash.bashrc into /etc/profile
[11:04] <sethk> _jason, so that file is effectively an extension of /etc/profile
[11:04] <jhenn> i installed the kubuntu-desktop package and the sytem still boots to gnome?
[11:04] <pm> nur fur polnisch?
[11:05] <__filip_> when i resize my hda5 (ntfs) i dont see any changes, i right click on hda5  resize chage to that i whant it to be and hit apply, then it scannig for device and there is no change, what should i do?
[11:05] <sethk> _jason, I'm checking on which files in /etc/refer to PATH
[11:05] <lowman> good thing huh jhenn :P
[11:05] <_jason> sethk, ok thanks.  I can only find it in /etc/profile
[11:05] <HymnToLife> __filip_ > do you have ntfsresize installed ?
[11:06] <__filip_> HymnToLife: Dont know, i run the live-cd.
[11:06] <sethk> _jason, on my ubuntu box it is in /etc/profile
[11:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey, anyone know how to install just one application from dapper on breezy?
[11:06] <crimsun> The_Isle_of_Mark: highly not recommended.
[11:06] <_jason> sethk, right, so does that mean that I can add a directory there and expect it to be in my path when I start gnome-terminal?
[11:07] <jhenn> how do i make kde my default desktop?
[11:07] <shutdownrunner> The_Isle_etc: use dapper repository and install the app
[11:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> shutdownrunner, yeah not working that way
[11:07] <__filip_> HymnToLife: can i install that when i am using an live-cd?
[11:07] <sethk> _jason, yes, but you may not see it until you log out of gnome and back in.  But...
[11:07] <HymnToLife> __filip_ > if you want to resize a ntfs, it's better to chkdsk and defrag it
[11:07] <sethk> _jason, why don't you just put in in .bashrc, and .bash_profile?
[11:07] <silvertear_> hello, i just installed and configured x to allow 1024x768 but gname wont let me go higher than 640x480
[11:07] <__filip_> ntfsresize: how does i do that?
[11:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> crimson the app has the same requirements from the version on breezy to the verion on dapper
[11:07] <lowman> jhenn: logoff then select it as your default. then login again
[11:07] <HymnToLife> __filip_ > I don't think you can install it on a live CD
[11:08] <crimsun> The_Isle_of_Mark: is it a C++ app?
[11:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> crimson, yep
[11:08] <HymnToLife> but try chkdsk and defrag your ntfs first
[11:08] <_jason> sethk, well .bash_profile I know does not work.  .bashrc I know would work.  But I don't see why it should be added to the path everytime i start gnome-terminal.  I would expect it to be there just like /usr/bin is
[11:08] <_jason> sethk, but let me try /etc/profile now
[11:08] <sethk> _jason, .bash_profile doesn't _not work_.  It works, but only for _login_ shells.  I'm not sure why you are having problems with that concept
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> !! http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compal.html  says it's compatible with CL56... why is my install hanging ??
[11:08] <ubotu> that's too long, CaptainMorgan
[11:09] <sethk> _jason, plus, there is absolutely no reason not to put it into .bashrc.  That's what .bashrc is for
[11:09] <Thorondor> hi everyone
[11:09] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compal.html  says it's compatible with CL56... why is my install hanging ??
[11:09] <silvertear_> where should i go for fixing video resolution?
[11:09] <_jason> sethk, okay thank you for your help
[11:09] <gn0me> sethk: That's what I did. :-\
[11:09] <sethk> _jason, so you want to put it in .bash_profile (for some strange reason) and don't get confused about the fact that you won't see it until you log all the way out of gnome, and then back in.
[11:10] <Thorondor> why do i keep getting errors like this when opening files in xpdf/xfog/etc? ``Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct''
[11:10] <sethk> _jason, if you say ".bash_profile doesn't work" then you are still confused about that.
[11:10] <_jason> sethk, okay by no mean I mean that logging in to gnome will not source .bash_profile
[11:10] <_jason> no work*
[11:11] <_jason> err you know what I mean
[11:11] <sethk> _jason, yes, it will.  the login shell _will_ read .bash_profile
[11:11] <_jason> sethk, I am telling you.  the directory will not be in my path when I start gnome-terminal
[11:11] <sethk> _jason, I just tested it on a ubuntu box to make sure I'm giving you the correct information.  It will indeed be there.
[11:11] <sethk> _jason, and, it has NOTHING to do with gnome_terminal
[11:12] <_jason> sethk, something must be different on my box then
[11:12] <sethk> _jason, gnome_terminal is just a terminal emulation program.  gnome_terminal will run _any_ program.  You happen to be running bash in gnome_terminal.  The behavior you care about is bash, NOT gnome_terminal
[11:12] <_jason> sethk, okay
[11:12] <anderson_> help
[11:13] <anderson_> help
[11:13] <_jason> anderson_, ask a question
[11:13] <sethk> _jason, I'm not just being pedantic.  You can look at gnome_terminal for the next 100 years and it won't help you, because paths have nothing to do with gnome_terminal.
[11:13] <_jason> sethk, I'm just trying to simplify what I am try to do so that I can communicate it to you
[11:13] <anderson_> exit
[11:14] <sethk> _jason, don't simply things by making them incorrect.
[11:14] <_jason> sethk, okay
[11:14] <sethk> _jason, and I've understood from the beginning exactly what you are doing.
[11:14] <sethk> _jason, the only thing I don't understand is why you think putting it in .bashrc will cause any sort of problem or should be avoided for any reason.
[11:15] <cyphase> how can i make wget output a downloaded file to stdout?
[11:15] <lowman> _jason: in the .bashrc just append ":" to the existing path info and /to/whatever/it/is/you/want/in/your/path then close the gnome-terminal and reopen and the deal is done
[11:15] <Thorondor> why do i keep getting errors like this when opening files in xpdf/xfig/etc? ``Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct''
[11:15] <_jason> sethk, it won't cause any problems, I know that.  It's the concept that ~/bin should be put in my path in the same manner that /usr/bin is.
[11:16] <sethk> _jason, actually, that happens automatically in the .bashrc file that ubuntu puts in your directory when you install
[11:16] <sethk> _jason, and that concept of yours is incorrect.
[11:16] <ryjeq> to ci kutasy ;] 
[11:16] <sethk> _jason, ~/bin is _not_ the same type of directory as /usr/bin
[11:16] <lowman> thank goodness that I have a bin in my profile ...I needs a place for my scripts ;)~~
[11:16] <CaptainMorgan> help ?
[11:17] <lowman> CaptainMorgan: you drowning?
[11:17] <min> hi everybody
[11:17] <sethk> _jason, if you haven't changed it, the install .bash_profile (sorry, I said .bashrc a minute ago) tests for the existance of ~/bin, and adds it to the path if it exists
[11:17] <lowman> hi min
[11:17] <sethk> _jason, the only way that will not happen if you have changed /etc/profile to tell bash not to read .bash_profile
[11:18] <lowman> sethk: why does he want that?
[11:18] <sethk> lowman, he doesn't.
[11:18] <asuramaki> muahhahaha....sounds like a plot to spread fear uncertainty and doubt so that certain users do not transcend the nuebosphere an reach the elite of commandline ninjas....eeevil!
[11:18] <lowman> sethk: oh okay
[11:18] <sethk> lowman, he believes .bash_profile isn't being used on his system.
[11:18] <lowman> @)
[11:18] <asuramaki> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[11:19] <sethk> asuramaki, correct, in .bash_profile
[11:19] <asuramaki> my private bin is full of gouda cheese though!
[11:19] <lowman> well it is..trust sethk on that one
[11:19] <_jason> sethk, so ~/.bash_profile needs to be sourced from /etc/profile?
[11:19] <sethk> asuramaki, that's your problem.  :)
[11:20] <sethk> _jason, no, there is a way to put something into /etc/profile to _stop_ sourcing of .bash_profile.  Unless you've done that, .bash_profile _will_ be sourced for a login shell
[11:20] <nickrud> _jason, I found a quick guide to how those files get sourced: http://www.osxfaq.com/tips/unix-tricks/week105/monday.ws
[11:20] <joachim-n> how do I remove an extension from several files?  mv *.bar * doesn't do what I hoped it would
[11:20] <asuramaki> sethk: it is not a problem.  i want it that way....my family has kept a private bin of fine gouda cheese for eight generations now!
[11:20] <nickrud> should be in the wiki
[11:21] <min> i kicked out .dows from my hd and i've installed ubuntu 3 days ago.... have some problems now... i did some wrong things, i think..
[11:21] <lowman> joachim-n: you need to mv *.bar *.foo
[11:21] <min> and i am first time here...
[11:21] <pm> you asshole!!!
[11:21] <joachim-n> lowman, what if I don't want .foo ?
[11:21] <_jason> sethk,  okay going to reboot gnome after adding to /etc/profile... thank you for your patience
[11:22] <lowman> joachim-n: you replace *.foo with what you want LOL
[11:22] <lowman> joachim-n: was just an example :P
[11:22] <joachim-n> lowman, what I mean is that I have several files called something.backup -- I want to remove the .backup
[11:22] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compal.html  says it's compatible with CL56... why is my install hanging ??
[11:22] <asuramaki> pm: this is not the "learn english obscenities" channel.. please refrain from using those languages here.  thank you.
[11:23] <lowman> joachim-n: what you want it replaced with?
[11:23] <joachim-n> with nothing
[11:23] <joachim-n> eg file.html.backup -> file.html
[11:23] <min> first of all i can't not open synaptic..
[11:23] <yatesy> you mean you can't stop yourself opening it? :P
[11:23] <pm> asuramaki, ty dupku
[11:24] <lowman> joachim-n: I would mv *.html.backup *.html
[11:24] <min> nope not at all..:)
[11:24] <tk2> hi all - where does ubuntu keep its default bash login / welcome message
[11:24] <tk2> ?
[11:24] <joachim-n> right. that'll work in this case. But what if they had different stuff before the .backup?
[11:25] <sethk> tk2, I'm not sure which you mean.  there is /etc/motd
[11:25] <min> i can't open users and groups
[11:25] <tk2> sethk: thats the one
[11:25] <lowman> joachim-n: you could write a script to do all that or you would have to batch them one ext at a time ...unless someone else can enlighten me of something else...dunno :P
[11:26] <joachim-n> ok thanks :)
[11:26] <_jason> sethk, still not in my path after adding it to /etc/profile and rebooting
[11:26] <lowman> yw :)
[11:26] <pinkisntwell> I just tried to conenct to my smb share from another computer on the network and it was asking for some password, I gave it my ubuntu password and it wouldn't take it.... what password did it want?
[11:26] <sethk> _jason, sounds like perhaps you are overriding the path in .bashrc
[11:27] <lowman> pinkisntwell: try mapping a drive by ip to the share
[11:27] <tiot> hi
[11:27] <trappist> pinkisntwell: you need to set up a samba user using smbpasswd
[11:27] <lowman> pinkisntwell: I had the same prob last week
[11:27] <sethk> _jason, you also still have to explain why ~/bin isn't already in your path, since the standard ubuntu initialization files add it.
[11:27] <pinkisntwell> lowman: ok
[11:28] <sethk> _jason, the bottom line seems to be that your initialization files have been modified at some point
[11:28] <pinkisntwell> lowman: thanks
[11:28] <norki> does anyone else get distortion when the pcm volume is set to full? sb pci 128
[11:28] <lowman> pinkisntwell: yw :)
[11:28] <_jason> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6003
[11:28] <pinkisntwell> lowman: but since I don't have any users set up, why was it asking for a pass?
[11:28] <trappist> norki: I used to get that with ye olde sb
[11:29] <trappist> pinkisntwell: if it didn't, it would be exposing the fact that the requested user didn't exist, which would be bad
[11:29] <InCognItO> female 19-23 private?
[11:29] <sobersabre> hello
[11:29] <trappist> InCognItO: elsewhere.
[11:29] <pinkisntwell> trappist: so that's why?
[11:29] <norki> trappist: you fixed it with a new soundcard? :p
[11:29] <sobersabre> is there an apt-gettable development metapackage  fort ubuntu ?
[11:29] <trappist> norki: audigy works much better, yeah :)
[11:29] <lowman> pinkisntwell: you can use smbpasswd and set it up that way..or just map a drive like this \\192.168.1.100\sharename <--that is what I did and it worked :P
[11:30] <JackPalmiery> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:30] <sobersabre> I need gcc, make autotools, and glibc-dev etc. is there such ?
[11:30] <trappist> lowman: if he doesn't have a samba user that's not likely to work
[11:30] <norki> trappist: that's creative too tho
[11:30] <InCognItO> elsewhere?|
[11:30] <trappist> sobersabre: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:30] <lowman> pinkisntwell: that way I could just use my share with no password
[11:30] <JackPalmiery> which one should I download
[11:30] <JackPalmiery> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:30] <trappist> norki: yeah, but totally different drivers and chipset
[11:30] <lowman> jack-: ubuntu
[11:30] <asuramaki> _jason: what is this needless crap here ? :PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/home/jasonr/bin"
[11:30] <polpak> JackPalmiery, depends on if you want KDE or Gnome
[11:30] <trappist> norki: <3 creative
[11:31] <_jason> asuramaki, my path?
[11:31] <trappist> asuramaki: which part of that do you consider useless
[11:31] <asuramaki> _jason: you've clearly modified the default /etc/profile, and hence all bets are off....game over....thanks for playing though.
[11:31] <JackPalmiery> first time user, though I know my way around somewhat on the command line.. why Gnome?
[11:31] <norki> trappist: yeah they're good. but i'm considering an m-audio card for my laptop. a mate's got it, and the latency is really low and nice
[11:31] <pinkisntwell> isn't that a bit... insecure?
[11:31] <_jason> asuramaki, actually I haven't...
[11:31] <trappist> norki: yeah but does it do hardware mixing?
[11:31] <JackPalmiery> used other linux distributions, but not ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:31] <h4x> yay i installed xmms with mp3 codecs and everything
[11:31] <polpak> _jason, I'm pretty sure that by default /etc/profile doesn't include your users /home/bin directory
[11:31] <lowman> jack-: tis just a personal choice thing..kde or gnome
[11:31] <joachim-n> how can bash deny root anything?
[11:32] <asuramaki> JackPalmiery: first time user, and many time troll....nice to meet you wankcheese. ;-)
[11:32] <JackPalmiery> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? or gnome/KDE
[11:32] <norki> trappist: er ya think so. asio
[11:32] <_jason> polpak,  that's the part I've added, that's what I am working on
[11:32] <polpak> joachim-n, if the hardware doesn't allow it
[11:32] <trappist> joachim-n: bash doesn't
[11:32] <polpak> _jason, oh, don't add it to /etc/profile
[11:32] <h4x> fairwell _jason, and all the others
[11:32] <h4x> peace
[11:32] <joachim-n> I tried to run a shell script in /usr/share with ./script
[11:32] <asuramaki> _jason: i've a fresh ubuntu install here, and you can bet my /etc/profile does not include a reference to my /home/me/bin like yours does....you, or *something* modified it.
[11:33] <trappist> joachim-n: is it executable?
[11:33] <_jason> asuramaki, that's the change... that's all I did.
[11:33] <joachim-n> oh yeah, that might be it :)
[11:33] <trappist> :)
[11:33] <polpak> _jason, well change it back.
[11:33] <sunshine82> how do i use perl files ive downloaded ogg2mp3 off sourceforge but i dont know where i suppose to put  it so i use it
[11:33] <lowman> joachim-n: you need to chmod a+x scriptname
[11:33] <JackPalmiery> any kubuntu users around?
[11:33] <asuramaki> _jason: make up your mind then...you changed it or you didn't...lying to the tech support only makes them mad....especially when it is free tech support! ;-P
[11:33] <trappist> sunshine82: perl perlscriptname
[11:33] <sethk> polpak, look at ~/.bash_profile.  that's where the user's bin directory is included
[11:33] <polpak> _jason, if you are trying to add your home directory to your path do it in ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[11:34] <JackPalmiery> why prefer kubuntu?
[11:34] <polpak> _jason, depending on what you're trying to do
[11:34] <norki> if i remove gaim, from the package manager (it'll remove some libs too) will that affect other programs?
[11:34] <trappist> JackPalmiery: I prefer kubuntu because I prefer kde
[11:34] <JackPalmiery> ok, let me rephrase - why prefer KDE?
[11:34] <polpak> JackPalmiery, and I prefer ubuntu cause I prefer GNOME
[11:34] <tiot> norki : there are'nt affect
[11:34] <_jason> okay I'm just going to go read some more.  Thanks for the attention polpak asuramaki and sethk
[11:34] <JackPalmiery> what 3 main things
[11:34] <JackPalmiery> for example.. make KDE prefereable
[11:35] <norki> tiot: thank's i'll try removing it then
[11:35] <lowman> JackPalmiery:KDE is doggy drool :P```
[11:35] <polpak> JackPalmiery, if you want, you can download the live CD iso's for Ubuntu and Kubuntu and see which you like better
[11:35] <trappist> JackPalmiery: I find that it has at least as many features as gnome and is more easily configurable, and I like the interface better.  Try both and decide what you like.
[11:35] <asuramaki> polpak: he wants ~/bin to work...but rather than just creating the directory ~/bin, and having the default ~/.bash_profile do it's job, he's gone mucking around in /etc/profile, and now he cannot get ~/bin to include in his path...
[11:35] <JackPalmiery> which is simpler to use
[11:35] <_jason> polpak, asuramaki I do have one question though.  How does /usr/bin get added to my path when I log into gnome.  What file controls that?
[11:35] <sethk> JackPalmiery, it is entirely a matter of taste
[11:35] <tiot> if it remove some librarie it's beacause they don't use lib
[11:35] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: configurability, k-apps integrated, a qt-based environment if you like that.
[11:35] <polpak> _jason, there are two "setup" files for bash
[11:35] <JackPalmiery> hrmm..
[11:36] <polpak> _jason, the first is ~/.bashrc
[11:36] <lowman> qt *shivers* :P
[11:36] <_jason> polpak, I understand this
[11:36] <trappist> _jason: I think somewhere you're specifying a PATH from scratch instead of saying PATH=$PATH:/some/path
[11:36] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: i'm a big fan of gnome and gtk, by the way. :P
[11:36] <polpak> _jason, this gets configured whenever your user starts bash
[11:36] <polpak> _jason, the second is ~/.bash_profile which is only run when bash is run interactively
[11:36] <JackPalmiery> time to google gnome vs. kde
[11:36] <polpak> _jason, i.e. you log in
[11:36] <norki> er if i choose to uninstall gaim, the list reads:  "To be removed: gaim,   ubuntu desktop
[11:36] <trappist> JackPalmiery: gnome is simpler to use, but that comes at the cost of flexibility
[11:36] <norki> sounds dangerous
[11:36] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: prepare to enter the world of flame wars. ^_^
[11:37] <JackPalmiery> what sort of flexibility?
[11:37] <_jason> polpak, that doesn't answer my question :P
[11:37] <pinkisntwell> i'm trying to run an executable and it says "command not found". what gives?
[11:37] <trappist> norki: no, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package.  you won't lose anything.
[11:37] <lowman> ya kde will snap in half LOL
[11:37] <DShepherd> :)
[11:37] <sethk> trappist, I don't know of anything that is simpler in gnome than in kde
[11:37] <trappist> JackPalmiery: take this for an example.  mspaint is easier to use, but photoshop is more flexible.
[11:37] <DShepherd> really lowman
[11:37] <DShepherd> ?
[11:37] <polpak> _jason, /etc/profile sets your default path
[11:37] <JackPalmiery> but mspaint can't accomplish as much.. is that true for gnome?
[11:37] <lowman> nah! DShep: don't listen to me
[11:38] <_jason> polpak, that makes no sense since that would mean /home/jasonr/bin would be in my path
[11:38] <polpak> trappist, that's not really an accurate metaphore
[11:38] <norki> trappist: thanks
[11:38] <lowman> <--town idiot :P```
[11:38] <norki> they should just ship aMSN instead of gaim..
[11:38] <SGF-cs|blackhaT> On Windows I have an option to search for wireless networks around me, is there anyway I can do this in Linux?
[11:38] <DShepherd> :)... lowman I am way ahead of you
[11:38] <trappist> JackPalmiery: well your desktop environment's job isn't to accomplish stuff, it's to let you accomplish stuff the way you like.  as far as that goes, yeah I think it's true here, though less so.
[11:38] <polpak> trappist, the difference between gome and kde is not like the difference between ms paint and photoshop
[11:38] <sethk> bash actually tolerates alternative names for the startup files in ~, ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile
[11:38] <vulcanoo> bonsoir
[11:38] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: listen to trappist. he's on the right track here. ;)
[11:39] <trappist> polpak: it illustrates what I mean with an extreme example, but no it's not exactly a 1:1 comparison :)
[11:39] <lowman> DShepherd: everyones way ahead of me :P```
[11:39] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: in the last comment, that is.
[11:39] <sethk> so any of those could be overriding the PATH (as someone said, doing PATH=whatever instead of PATH=$PATH:whatever)
[11:39] <polpak> JackPalmiery, you aren't going to get a "unbiased" opinion.. It just doesn't happen
[11:39] <polpak> JackPalmiery, nor are you really limited to one or the other in any way
[11:39] <bassnrat> newbie on the block.... any suggestions on how to get mp3 to work on Amarok?
[11:40] <JackPalmiery> hrmm.. so they both have the same capabilities then
[11:40] <polpak> JackPalmiery, Why not try both and see which you prefer
[11:40] <norki> bassnrat: i downloaded xmms for mp3
[11:40] <LoRe> hmm... who is rotating /var/log/daemon.log?
[11:40] <norki> works nicely
[11:40] <trappist> JackPalmiery: not the same, but comparable
[11:40] <CaptainMorgan> any other linuxes that don't take up mor ethan a cd ?
[11:40] <JackPalmiery> ok
[11:40] <djk_> norki: that's crap advice..
[11:40] <lowman> ya bassnrat uninstall amarok and use something lite like mpg123 at the cli
[11:40] <LoRe> i cannot find it in logratates configuration
[11:40] <lowman> :P``
[11:40] <procrastinator> how do I see if i've got a dhcp response from a wireless router?
[11:41] <sunshine82> has anyone ever use ogg2mp3 before need so help
[11:41] <norki> djk_: it's all i know, i'm newbie
[11:41] <JackPalmiery> http://www.illusionary.com/GNOMEvKDE.html
[11:41] <polpak> JackPalmiery, you can have both gnome and KDE installed on the same system
[11:41] <JackPalmiery> would you guys say that is accurate?
[11:41] <trappist> LoRe: I think syslogd handles that
[11:41] <JackPalmiery> I've never used either, but I'm not clueless either
[11:41] <bassnrat> norki and lowman thank you...... merry christmas!!!!!
[11:41] <JackPalmiery> I'm a developer, though on windows.. and some experience w/ coding in the shell.. no X or gui
[11:41] <polpak> JackPalmiery, no... that's not really accurate
[11:42] <ga^vu> hi...anybody from romania?
[11:42] <ubuntu> snet.org
[11:42] <JackPalmiery> ok
[11:42] <lowman> JackPalmiery: nah! that is a toilet full of SUGAR :P```
[11:42] <_jason> sethk, that's not whats happening, I've checked
[11:42] <polpak> JackPalmiery, Again. You can either try them both, or just pick one at random. Either way you aren't "locked" in
[11:42] <JackPalmiery> it was the #1 google hit
[11:42] <lowman> gnome rules over kde qt tripe yak!
[11:42] <JackPalmiery> for gnome vs. kde..
[11:42] <polpak> JackPalmiery,  you can always switch
[11:43] <ssstormy> hello, I'm having a nasty time with deps...  I built mysql, apache, and php5 from source, so synaptic dosn't know they are on my system
[11:43] <lowman> not to hard to be #1 google hit
[11:43] <sethk> _jason, well, according to you, /usr/bin isn't in /etc/profile, while it is for everyone else.  So I'm not sure what it is you are checking, but it can't be the right place.
[11:43] <lowman> doesn't mean accurate info
[11:43] <ssstormy> so it keeps asking me to add the old mysql, apache, and php5
[11:43] <trappist> ssstormy: that happens when you step outside the package manager.  why would you do that?
[11:43] <doron> i used declare to set my path, how can i make it perm?
[11:43] <ssstormy> because I need mysql5
[11:43] <_jason> sethk, when did I say /usr/bin wasn't in /etc/profile?
[11:44] <mcphail> ssstormy: checkinstall is a godsend
[11:44] <lowman> doron: a little perming solution :P```
[11:44] <trappist> doron: add it to ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[11:44] <sethk> _jason, you keep asking where /usr/bin is added to PATH, even though it's been said at least six times that it is /etc/profile
[11:44] <procrastinator> sunshine82: yes?
[11:44] <pm> nobody loves me :(
[11:44] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: if you like windows, you'll probably like kde. it's a bit more polished, though, so you don't have to like windows just because you like kde. gnome has its own, a bit apple-ish, way of doing things, and the developers are set on making a clean, easy to use environment.
[11:44] <_jason> sethk, it can't be since /home/jasnr/bin isn't in my path... explain how that gets removed?
[11:44] <lowman> pm: nah! we love ya..we love to ignore ya as well :p``
[11:45] <polpak> phibxr, that's not really accurate either
[11:45] <sethk> _jason, so, first you say "when did I say it isn't in /etc/profile", followed by "it isn't in /etc/proflie"
[11:45] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: the only way is to try them both out, as everyone is saying.
[11:45] <rikai> anyone know the default live cd password?
[11:45] <lowman> j/k
[11:45] <sethk> _jason, you can't have it both ways
[11:45] <phibxr> JackPalmiery: and preferably xfce too. :)
[11:45] <polpak> rikai, there is no password on the live cd
[11:45] <_jason> sethk, it's not sourced in, it's there that's just not where the path is getting set
[11:45] <ssstormy> mcphail, so if i use checkinstall, synaptic will recognize the source installations?
[11:45] <pm> gnome developers are set to make it as little windows-like as possbile, don't you think?
[11:45] <phibxr> polpak: probably not. i've not had enough sleep lately. ;)
[11:46] <sethk> _jason, ok, so now you _are_ saying /usr/bin is not added to the path in /etc/profile
[11:46] <polpak> _jason, /etc/profile doesn't have to be sourced in... it gets imported automatically
[11:46] <JackPalmiery> ok
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[11:46] <_jason> sethk, exactly
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[11:46] <LoRe> ah, savelog is doing this in /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd
[11:46] <os2mac> Stuff for Smart Masses
[11:46] <lowman> JackPalmiery: if kde was the only choice I would just use a blackbox and scrap it
[11:46] <mcphail> ssstormy: yes, as long as you name them in a similar fashion to the ubuntu versions
[11:46] <norki> what's the nicest media player?
[11:46] <sethk> _jason, however, that is not the case.
[11:46] <k31th> What do you guys use for backup ?
[11:46] <os2mac> sorry didn't mean to do that...
[11:46] <pm> norki, kaffeine, amarok :)
[11:46] <trappist> norki: matter of opinion
[11:46] <sethk> _jason, it cannot be true that everyone else adds something to the path in /etc/profile, and it is there, but you add it, and it isn't there.
[11:47] <norki> can i get codecs from the repositories?
[11:47] <norki> or do i use that automatix thingy?
[11:47] <pm> amarok rules!
[11:47] <sethk> _jason, you did notice, I assume, that some of the PATH statements in /etc/profile are within if/then/else constructs
[11:47] <apokryphos> norki: depends on what codecs you're looking for
[11:47] <lowman> amarok bites *snickers*
[11:47] <norki> all of them of course
[11:47] <norki> :p
[11:47] <lowman> but glad you like it
[11:47] <apokryphos> norki: there shouldn't be any need to ever use automatix
[11:47] <_jason> polpak, sethk then why isn't /home/jasonr/bin in my path.  Sorry but if /usr/bin is getting added from /etc/profile then /home/jasonr/bin should be in my path as well
[11:47] <lowman> :)
[11:47] <phibxr> norki: "sudo apt-get quodlibet". someone suggested it here earlier tonight, and it's beautiful. it's like rhythmbox, but the way i like it. ;D
[11:47] <ssstormy> mcphail, ok awsome.  Do I have to run it before I install?
[11:47] <apokryphos> !tell norki about restricted
[11:47] <_jason> sethk, it's if else, one of them is getting called and I modified both
[11:48] <sunshine82> procasrinator could u please explain to me how i can get it to work
[11:48] <os2mac> recently did Dapper updates... now getting SIGSEGV error when attempting to get updates with Adept....
[11:48] <sethk> _jason, as long as you insist that what is happening is not happening, you'll never solve your problem.
[11:48] <MrProper_> _jason, what does echo $PATH show?
[11:48] <ga^vu> beginners question...how can I listen to mp3 on ubuntu? :d
[11:48] <_jason> MrProper_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6003
[11:48] <lowman> MrProper_: shows your PATH
[11:48] <apokryphos> !tell ga^vu about mp3
[11:48] <sethk> _jason, perhaps if you put your /etc/profile on a postbot we can see what's going on
[11:48] <mcphail> ssstormy: no. Just substitute sudo checkinstall for sudo make install
[11:48] <_jason> sethk, I did that, you must have missed it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6003
[11:48] <ga^vu> thanks
[11:48] <norki> apokryphos: thanks
[11:49] <sunshine82> procrasinator could u please explain to me how i can get it to work
[11:49] <sethk> _jason, the right edge of the statements are cut off.  that isn't terribly useful
[11:49] <GoRoDeK> anyone got problems with dapper/vlc and knows any workaround? (libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.50))
[11:49] <ssstormy> mcphail, awsome.  Thanks!
[11:49] <sunshine82> procrasinator ive downlloaded into my home folder
[11:49] <_jason> sethk, scroll?
[11:49] <JackPalmiery> ouch, linus spoke pretty harshly of gnome
[11:49] <JackPalmiery> yeash
[11:49] <JackPalmiery> doing some google research
[11:49] <ssstormy> oh one more question.  When I try to remove phpmyadmin, it fails because it can't find db_get
[11:49] <sethk> _jason, no, the post bot site doesn't scroll
[11:49] <polpak> _jason, did you log out and log in again after you made the change to /etc/profile?
[11:49] <apokryphos> JackPalmiery: he's a kde man :)
[11:50] <sethk> _jason, but notice you are doing PATH= instead of export PATH=
[11:50] <_jason> polpak, I rebooted
[11:50] <norki> !FreeFormats
[11:50] <ubotu> well, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:50] <_jason> sethk, look at the bottom
[11:50] <norki> O.o
[11:50] <sethk> the path is exported below, it looks like
[11:50] <polpak> JackPalmiery, linus speaks harshly about a lot of things
[11:50] <polpak> JackPalmiery, it doens't make him accurate. Just opinionated
[11:51] <sethk> _jason notice, however, that before PATH is exported, /etc/bash.bashrc is sourced
[11:51] <_jason> sethk, I'll post that one sec
[11:51] <norki> so d'you reccomend i just get the FreeFormats?
[11:51] <MrProper_> _jason, type echo PATH=$PATH:/home/jason/bin >> ~/.bashrc
[11:51] <lowman> JackPalmiery: you know opinions are like (_o_)'s everyones got one :P``
[11:52] <MrProper_> _jason, then echo export PATH >> ~/.bashrc
[11:52] <sethk> _jason, there must be a .profile or similar file in your $HOME directory
[11:52] <MrProper_> _jason, then relog in
[11:52] <_jason> MrProper_, I know that will work.  I want to understand why this does not work
[11:52] <MrProper_> _jason, why what doesnt work?
[11:52] <sethk> MrProper_, this whole thing is about the fact that for some reason he doesn't want to do it in .bashrc
[11:52] <JackPalmiery> yeah, true
[11:52] <JackPalmiery> which is easier on the cpu
[11:52] <_jason> MrProper_, adding it in /etc/profile
[11:52] <lowman> <--is an overly opinionated (_o_) ...ahem! *snickers*
[11:52] <JackPalmiery> say if you are running on a PIII w/ 256 megs of RAM
[11:53] <polpak> JackPalmiery, Neither xfce is the least resource intensive
[11:53] <rikai> polpak, so, how do i ssh to a livecd?
[11:53] <asuramaki> _jason: PATH for interactive login shells seems to be influenced by the file /etc/login.defs and not /etc/profile and this is why what you've added to /etc/profile is not working for you.
[11:53] <MrProper_> _jason, so in you /etc/profile the path that you have added in there does not work?
[11:53] <rikai> polpak, since it asks for a login pass, and just pressing enter doesnt work.
[11:53] <MrProper_> _jason, have you tried source /etc/profile after editing /etc/profile
[11:53] <polpak> rikai, you don't.. Not unless you apt-get installed sshd after booting from the CD
[11:53] <_jason> MrProper_, of course that will work
[11:54] <JackPalmiery> ok
[11:54] <polpak> rikai, ubuntu doesn't install the ssh daemon by default
[11:54] <rikai> polpak, i did an apt-get of openssh-server...
[11:54] <_jason> asuramaki, I think you've figured it out.  thanks!
[11:54] <asuramaki> _jason: for example, when I do: echo $PATH on my fresh ubunut install the order of the path directories matches the ENV_PATH in /etc/login.defs, and not the PATH directives in /etc/profile
[11:54] <polpak> JackPalmiery, there is no easy answers here. You either have an opinion, or you don't. If you don't have one I suggest you try them both until you get one ;p
[11:54] <asuramaki> s/ubunut/windows
[11:55] <MrProper_> _jason, i really dont see what your problem is with adding /home/jason/bin to your ~/.bashrc because setting it in /etc/profile will set a path to a */bin directory they dont have access to
[11:55] <Eleaf> ahh
[11:55] <asuramaki> hahaha, j/k s/ubunut/ubuntu
[11:55] <_jason> sethk, MrProper_ , thanks you too :)
[11:55] <Eleaf> my computer keeps freezing!
[11:55] <Eleaf> hard freeze
[11:55] <procrastinator> I can see eth0 (wireless device) in ifconfig and iwconfig, but ifup eth0 returns "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0."
[11:55] <procrastinator> why?
[11:55] <Eleaf> I can't restart xorg or anything
[11:55] <Eleaf> I have to pull the plug
[11:55] <Eleaf> lol
[11:55] <Eleaf> it's happend 3 times in the last 5 hours
[11:55] <Eleaf> it's very weird!
[11:55] <_jason> MrProper_, no i wanted to add it to ~/.bash_profile originally
[11:55] <Eleaf> is there anywhere i can see the errors?
[11:55] <Eleaf> I'm not seeeing anything in syslog
[11:56] <Eleaf> help!
[11:56] <MrProper_> _jason, why bother with bash_profile, .bashrc is much more powerful
[11:56] <lowman> well pitter patter gotta scatter ciao all
[11:56] <mcphail> Eleaf: is this hoary or breezy?
[11:56] <asuramaki> _jason: you have much to learn about the differences between non-login, and interactive login shells young jedi ;-P
[11:56] <_jason> MrProper_, because it gets sourced everytime
[11:56] <Eleaf> breezy mcphail
[11:57] <MrProper_> _jason, .bashrc gets run every time you open a terminal/shell with that user
[11:57] <Eleaf> mcjerry, it does it at the weirdest times, when there is barely any load
[11:57] <Eleaf> it's never done this before
[11:57] <MrProper_> _jason, you want it to check for updates on an existing shell?
[11:57] <mcphail> Eleaf: this happened to me in hoary, but not breezy. It seemed to be a problem with the ATI drivers, but i'm not entirely sure.
[11:57] <Eleaf> mcphail, *
[11:57] <procrastinator> I can see eth0 (wireless device) in ifconfig and iwconfig, but ifup eth0 returns "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0." -- why?
[11:57] <sethk> asuramaki, you mean he had never rebooted?
[11:57] <Eleaf> I'm using a savage card
[11:58] <_jason> sethk, no, the path is set in /etc/login.defs
[11:58] <beruic> Where do I have to go with issues on Evolution?
[11:58] <sethk> _jason, that's only used to set up the initialization files.
[11:58] <_jason> sethk, I don't know, all I know is it sets the path
[11:58] <mcphail> Eleaf: I never got to the bottom of it, I'm afraid. As you say, nothing turned up in syslog.
[11:58] <procrastinator> sunshine82: didn't see what you wrote at first, you spelled my name incorrectly
[11:59] <Eleaf> mcphail, my system is very stable, but for some reason it just suddenly did this...
[11:59] <Eleaf> oh well...
[11:59] <procrastinator> sunshine82: copy it into somewhere in your $PATH, like /usr/bin
[11:59] <mcphail> Eleaf: ndiswrapper?
[11:59] <Eleaf> what about it?
[11:59] <vmq> hola
[11:59] <mcphail> Eleaf: are you using it? it was my other potential culprit
[11:59] <beruic> Where do I have to go with issues on Evolution?