| ogra | i just got my yearly bonus ... tugether with my saved money it will be enough for a fat 12" ibook ... or a small 12" powerbook, not sure yet | 12:06 |
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| ogra | but 6h battery power are soo cool :) | 12:06 |
| lucasvo | small 12" is better | 12:06 |
| ogra | just for the metal case ? | 12:07 |
| lucasvo | I had an ibook 12" and the battery really is amazing | 12:07 |
| lucasvo | not only | 12:07 |
| ogra | nvidia is odd ... | 12:07 |
| ogra | i dint really need 200Mhz more ... | 12:07 |
| lucasvo | I think ibook doen't has pcmcia, pb does | 12:07 |
| ogra | hmm, thats an argument | 12:07 |
| ogra | but the only one so far ... | 12:08 |
| lucasvo | and a reasonable | 12:08 |
| lucasvo | since airport isn't supported by linux | 12:08 |
| ogra | being not able to use sleep because of nvidia is a counter argument | 12:08 |
| mhz_shower | ogra: ibook are even harder to open | 12:09 |
| ogra | there are nice usb wlan cards | 12:09 |
| lucasvo | you don't need the nv module, do you? | 12:09 |
| lucasvo | wait for Intel :D | 12:09 |
| ogra | i use the nv module on my amd64 lappie ... | 12:09 |
| ogra | but that doesnt matter | 12:09 |
| ogra | sleep doesnt work with either of the modules | 12:09 |
| lucasvo | why not? | 12:10 |
| mhz_shower | ogra: last time i tried to open an ibook, almost broke the plastic stuff | 12:10 |
| ogra | the spec isnt open enough to make the HW work | 12:10 |
| ogra | you cant access the right registers if you dont know the addresses | 12:10 |
| ogra | so sleep will never work with nvidia no matter which module you use | 12:11 |
| mhz_shower | ogra: pbook also have this super keyboard that lights based on how dark your room is | 12:11 |
| ogra | but i know it works with ati cards | 12:11 |
| ogra | yes, but thats all eye candy only ... | 12:11 |
| ogra | pcmcia *is* a pro argument ... but the only one i could find so far | 12:12 |
| mhz_shower | breaking the plastic is no eye candy to me :) | 12:12 |
| ogra | why should i break it... if i own and use it, i'll know how to use it right to not break ir | 12:12 |
| ogra | *it | 12:12 |
| mhz_shower | ibook is heavier than pbook | 12:12 |
| ogra | minimally | 12:13 |
| ogra | (my current one weights 4.5kg, everything is like feathers compared to this) | 12:13 |
| mhz_shower | ogra: my ex ibook was happily living with me. One day I wanted to open the case to replace a part... oops, i didnt dare | 12:13 |
| ogra | ah, k screwdriver involved :) | 12:14 |
| mhz_shower | then, when i had the pbook, it all was simple | 12:14 |
| lucasvo | mhz_shower: how is libretto linux support? | 12:14 |
| mhz_shower | lucasvo: i have not tried one yet :( but I have heard it is decent | 12:15 |
| ogra | \sh_away has a r200 from canonicals laptop testing stock ... | 12:16 |
| lucasvo | http://www.linux-magazin.de/Artikel/ausgabe/1999/03/Libretto/libretto.html | 12:16 |
| ogra | its hard to install (no cdrom) but one of the coolest lappies i know | 12:16 |
| lucasvo | what is the brand/ | 12:16 |
| ogra | toshiba libretto | 12:16 |
| mhz_shower | ogra: this fujitsu had no cd rom either, and came with Xp :( | 12:16 |
| lucasvo | http://www.qandr.org/quentin/writings/libretto/ | 12:17 |
| ogra | but 3500 are to much for a laptop | 12:17 |
| mhz_shower | but your LTSP gave me good setting to use Netinstall | 12:17 |
| lucasvo | mhz_shower: isn't there a dock with CD-Rom? | 12:17 |
| ogra | even if its really light and cool | 12:17 |
| mhz_shower | lucasvo: for which ? | 12:17 |
| ogra | the r200 is about 800g | 12:17 |
| mhz_shower | me wants that! | 12:17 |
| ogra | i also had a look at the dell X1 .... | 12:18 |
| ogra | even cooler ... | 12:18 |
| ogra | 10" widescreen | 12:18 |
| ogra | but 1280x800 | 12:18 |
| mhz_shower | but? | 12:18 |
| mhz_shower | is that a but? | 12:18 |
| ogra | 2000 | 12:18 |
| ogra | thats the only but | 12:19 |
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| ogra | my magic border fro laptops is at 1500, i'll never pay more for a lappie | 12:19 |
| === mhz uses 2nd hand laptops only | ||
| lucasvo | http://www.holme.com/toshiba-libretto-u100-mini-notebook.htm < cool | 12:20 |
| ogra | i had to many odd experiences with second hand ones ... | 12:20 |
| mhz | me too | 12:20 |
| ogra | oh, i just see, the r200 is a protege, no libretto | 12:21 |
| ogra | http://www.holme.com/toshiba-portege-r200-notebook.htm | 12:21 |
| mhz | but after I got robbed 2 laptops... | 12:21 |
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| ogra | hmm, and its 400g heavier than i was told | 12:22 |
| mhz | ogra: arkan0x has a portege, BTW | 12:22 |
| ogra | a r200 ? | 12:22 |
| arkan0x | 3490ct | 12:22 |
| mhz | ogra: how about sharp? | 12:23 |
| ogra | nothing beats 6h battery power yet | 12:23 |
| ogra | and i need a powerpc for edubuntu testing | 12:23 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I can lend you one | 12:24 |
| ogra | so it will most likely become a ibook or a pbook | 12:24 |
| lucasvo | ogra: an iBook 12" | 12:24 |
| ogra | nah, i'll buy one, rather keep it and help testing :) | 12:24 |
| mhz | ogra: i'd be very happy with this one http://emperorlinux.com/mfgr/sharp/meteor/ | 12:24 |
| lucasvo | ogra: or you can buy an old G4 PowerMac for 600.- CHF | 12:24 |
| lucasvo | ogra: were quite good | 12:25 |
| ogra | lucasvo, i can buy a iMac for 160 | 12:25 |
| ogra | enough for testing | 12:25 |
| lucasvo | ogra: our school just bought G5 powermac's | 12:25 |
| ogra | nice :) | 12:25 |
| lucasvo | ogra: you really really only need it for testing? | 12:25 |
| lucasvo | my school has too much $$$$ | 12:25 |
| ogra | nope, i'm travellin a lot since i work for canonical ... i need a laptop with as long battery power as i can get | 12:26 |
| ogra | i always envy the people around me if my battery is out after 2h | 12:26 |
| ogra | but amd64 is simply no laptop processor :) | 12:27 |
| lucasvo | mhz: working on the doc team? | 12:27 |
| mhz | tried to | 12:27 |
| mhz | my xml sucks | 12:27 |
| lucasvo | mhz: just rember <img /> and not <img> | 12:27 |
| lucasvo | :D | 12:27 |
| lucasvo | it is normal html | 12:27 |
| mhz | my xml sucks | 12:27 |
| mhz | hehhe, thx | 12:27 |
| lucasvo | and <br> is wrong | 12:28 |
| lucasvo | it should mean <br /> | 12:28 |
| mhz | my only skills for docing is moin | 12:28 |
| mhz | lucasvo: in moin, [[BR] ] is enough | 12:28 |
| lucasvo | :D | 12:28 |
| lucasvo | one could export it to moin | 12:29 |
| lucasvo | but moin is not good tor LaTex export | 12:29 |
| mhz | lucasvo: there are ways | 12:29 |
| mhz | yup, probably u r right | 12:29 |
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| lucasvo | ogra: why do you travel a lot? | 12:39 |
| lucasvo | ogra: where do you go? | 12:39 |
| ogra | in the last 12 months i was in mataro (near barcelona), sydney, london, bergen (.no) and montreal ... and additionally at a lot different places in germany ... | 12:40 |
| ogra | in januray/february we'll meet in london again and inbetween i have to attend some conferences in germany | 12:41 |
| ogra | sydney was the worst ... i'm a stron smoker and 27h flight are really hard :) | 12:42 |
| ogra | (with a stop in singapore after 18h) | 12:42 |
| ogra | and i suspect i'll travel a lot more, edubuntu needs promotion and i'm the guy who knows most about it | 12:44 |
| ogra | aslo mark has a lot of requests for collaboration with other edu projects where i'll hve to attend meetings next year i guess | 12:45 |
| ogra | so my travelling time over the year will rise ... | 12:45 |
| tclong | Greetings from Arkansas in the US! | 12:45 |
| === ogra waves back from bermany | ||
| ogra | heh | 12:46 |
| ogra | germany indeed | 12:46 |
| tclong | It sounds like you stay busy, ogra | 12:46 |
| ogra | i am :) | 12:46 |
| ogra | but currently i'll have to develop the next edubuntu first, then promotion will start :) | 12:47 |
| lucasvo | ogra: stop smoking, then you don't have problems with flying anymore :D | 12:48 |
| tclong | I installed ubuntu on my laptop last week and I've been very impressed with it. Now I'm trying to install edubuntu on my son's (6yo) computer. | 12:48 |
| ogra | yes, but then i'll get an angry guy :) | 12:49 |
| lucasvo | ogra: why? | 12:49 |
| ogra | tclong, make sure to read the wikipage mentionedin the topic :) | 12:49 |
| lucasvo | ogra: smoking isn't relaxing | 12:49 |
| lucasvo | tclong: for e.g. you may not want to install ltsp, so use workstation as a boot option | 12:49 |
| ogra | lucasvo, right... dont start it, if you havent ... | 12:50 |
| lucasvo | ogra: and if you started, stop | 12:51 |
| ogra | thats the hard part ... | 12:51 |
| ogra | ...and you need to really wnat it ... | 12:51 |
| ogra | *want | 12:51 |
| lucasvo | ogra: mark should send you to some freakin village in india where the next store is 100km away... | 12:51 |
| ogra | i'd find a way :) | 12:52 |
| lucasvo | ogra: no, because you don't want to? | 12:52 |
| lucasvo | ogra: ever tried to stop? | 12:52 |
| ogra | nope ... because i know i'd fail ... because i dont really want to ... | 12:52 |
| lucasvo | my grandparents were upset because since last week it is prohibited to smoke in trains | 12:52 |
| lucasvo | ogra: imagine what pc you could buy whith the money spent on cigarettes | 12:53 |
| ogra | thats odd ... in germany we have at least half a wagon left for smokers ... | 12:53 |
| ogra | i could be rich :) i know | 12:53 |
| lucasvo | you should try ! | 12:53 |
| ogra | i probably will ... one day ... | 12:54 |
| tclong | thnx ogra! | 12:54 |
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| ogra | no, i think i *must* one day ... but thats not yet ... | 12:54 |
| lucasvo | haha | 12:54 |
| lucasvo | like in 01/01/06 ? | 12:54 |
| ogra | nope | 12:55 |
| ogra | never ever will you see mee making such statements ... | 12:55 |
| lucasvo | good | 12:55 |
| lucasvo | but still you should stop | 12:55 |
| ogra | yup... | 12:56 |
| ogra | i'm surel my health will force me once ... | 12:56 |
| lucasvo | be a man, be powerful, stop smoking! ;-) | 12:56 |
| ogra | i stopped worse stuff in my life to prove how powerful i am, but that doesnt belong into this channel ;) | 12:56 |
| lucasvo | you don't have to prove, you have to be | 12:57 |
| ogra | lucasvo, you wont convince me ... | 12:57 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I won't die of lung cancer | 12:57 |
| ogra | thats something only my inner voiceeeeeeeeeeeecan ... | 12:57 |
| ogra | oops | 12:57 |
| lucasvo | maybe ^^ this was your inner voice :D | 12:58 |
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| lucasvo | ogra: feel free to take me a long to your edubuntu world promotion tour ... | 12:59 |
| ogra | hehe, i doubt it will be a world tour | 12:59 |
| lucasvo | maybe asia or africa would be interesting :D | 12:59 |
| ogra | but if all goes fine i'll be in bruxelles for fosdem ... | 01:00 |
| ogra | i have no plans beyond that yet ... mark forwarded me some invitations for german events ... | 01:00 |
| ogra | the worls tour stuff is done by jdub and mark ... edubuntu inst as popular as ubuntu :) | 01:01 |
| ogra | s/inst/isnt | 01:01 |
| tclong | you could send me to Ireland, Italy and Australia. I wouldn't argue. My wife wouldn't be very happy about it, unless she and the kids could come too. ;) | 01:02 |
| ogra | i thought the same when i started working for canonical ... but travelling more than every 2 monts makes you tired of travelling... | 01:03 |
| tclong | that's why they should bring more people on board at canonical (I'm job hunting, by the way ;) so that the traveling and publicizing could be delegated out more and there could be a better balance between travel/promotion and development. eh? | 01:06 |
| ogra | heh, yes ... | 01:07 |
| ogra | but its nice to see your colleagues from time to time | 01:07 |
| ogra | tclong, we're looking for a QA specialist | 01:07 |
| ogra | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/employment/document_view | 01:08 |
| tclong | I don't think that I would qualify experience wise, though I am trainable and like solving technical issues. | 01:10 |
| tclong | But I'll keep checking back | 01:12 |
| tclong | I guess I have had some QA experience as a network administrator, but nothing formal. | 01:13 |
| ogra | trying to apply wont do any harm i guess ;) | 01:14 |
| tclong | tis true | 01:15 |
| tclong | my wife says that too. heh! | 01:15 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi there | 02:19 |
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| Lord_Athur | de ubuntu a edubuntu | 02:40 |
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| tclong | edubuntu loaded and resume/references submitted to hr. WOO-HOO! | 03:17 |
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| tclong | now to get wireless working in edubuntu | 03:24 |
| Lord_Athur | bye | 03:25 |
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| tclong | adiosarino | 03:29 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: there will be NO meeting on 28 Dec and 4 Jan. | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | see also #edubuntu-es and #edubuntu-de | ||
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| Yagisan | evening all | 01:53 |
| irvin | evening | 01:55 |
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| Yagisan | last nights ltsp based dvd ripping cluster experiment was successful :) | 02:05 |
| Yagisan | you need thin clients with at least 96MB of ram, and l-r-m uninstalled | 02:06 |
| Yagisan | a p2 300MHz will do about 1.5fps, duron 850MHz about 6fps, and an amd64 (64bit mode) 2000MHz about 19fps | 02:08 |
| Yagisan | if I find a power supply I can add a k6/2 300MHz to the clients. | 02:10 |
| Yagisan | ogra: my patch suck ? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21370 | 02:12 |
| ogra | who said that ? | 02:13 |
| Yagisan | ogra: I was wondering if you checked it, just wanted to know if you liked it, or thought it was crap. | 02:14 |
| ogra | it could be more elegant, but its a start :) | 02:14 |
| Yagisan | ogra: I'd have rather made it use a config file, but I can't access outside of the chroot | 02:15 |
| ogra | so use it inside the chroot ;) | 02:15 |
| Yagisan | ogra: and I didn't check to see if /etc is overwritten inside the chroot | 02:15 |
| ogra | it isnt | 02:16 |
| === MrMazda waves to ogra and Yagisan | ||
| Yagisan | ogra: OK. I'll change it to source a ltsp-fstab file from /etc in the chroot a bit later tonight | 02:17 |
| === ogra waves back | ||
| === Yagisan waves back to MrMazda | ||
| Yagisan | ogra: I noticed some irony on some of my bug reports with patches on malone today | 02:18 |
| Yagisan | ogra: I'm a member of MOTUmedia, and I sent the patches, they been assigned to, yep MOTUmedia. It was mildly amusing to me. | 02:20 |
| ogra | heh | 02:20 |
| Yagisan | ogra: did you want me to write up my notes for the dvd ripping cluster. It might be useful for getting local apps working | 02:22 |
| Yagisan | ogra: as I run transcode locally on the nodes | 02:22 |
| ogra | sure, why not :) | 02:23 |
| Yagisan | ogra: was there a spec for local apps ? | 02:23 |
| ogra | nope | 02:23 |
| ogra | not in focus for this release | 02:23 |
| Yagisan | excellent, then I'm not just incapable of finding one. | 02:24 |
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| Yagisan | odd question, but can I boot memtest86 over the network ? | 03:03 |
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| Yagisan | ok. I can take the silence as nobody tried booting memtest86 over the network. | 03:26 |
| ogra | might or might not work :) | 03:28 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | G'day Lord_Athur | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | ogra: can I dcc you a tiny debdiff to look at ? | 03:40 |
| Lord_Athur | hi Yagisan | 03:40 |
| ogra | if it gets through ... | 03:40 |
| Lord_Athur | ogra, I recived the mail of the woman that sees the resquest of CDs | 03:40 |
| jsgotangco | g'day all | 03:41 |
| Lord_Athur | and she told me that edubuntu is not giving CDs now | 03:41 |
| ogra | Lord_Athur, JaneW is here | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | ogra: is that more elegant ? | 03:41 |
| ogra | Yagisan, after the meeting ... | 03:41 |
| Lord_Athur | who is JaneW? | 03:41 |
| Lord_Athur | jajjaa | 03:41 |
| Lord_Athur | JaneW, hi | 03:41 |
| Lord_Athur | I'm Alejandro Len Vega | 03:41 |
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| Yagisan | Sorry ogra, didn't now a meeting was on | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | s/now/know | 03:42 |
| JaneW | Hi Alejandro, was amuricio able to help you? | 03:42 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 03:42 |
| Lord_Athur | he was | 03:42 |
| JaneW | great :) | 03:42 |
| Lord_Athur | :D | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco, what's up ? | 03:42 |
| guim | Hi Mauricio, JaneW and others! | 03:42 |
| guim | i am following with lots interest the last dscussion in mailing list | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | mhz: feeling better today ? | 03:43 |
| mhz | not really.. I have just realized Tour won't be possible unless I get a job (normal under salary basis job) | 03:44 |
| mhz | so, i am organizing agenda to go and ask for a job, Yagisan | 03:44 |
| mhz | at least until March-April | 03:45 |
| mhz | (the time Edubuntu Tour should start) | 03:45 |
| mhz | guim: hi | 03:45 |
| guim | :) | 03:45 |
| Yagisan | mhz: Good luck. I need to whip myself to find some more customers. I haven't had many recently :( | 03:45 |
| mhz | Yagisan: I'll be off for about 6 to 7 hours, today. | 03:46 |
| guim | we are soon going to look for someone... in Belgium ! | 03:46 |
| mhz | Yagisan: good luck to you too | 03:46 |
| mhz | guim: good! I live in Chile :) | 03:46 |
| guim | yes.. I knew ;-) | 03:46 |
| guim | don't want to spend some days here ? ;-) | 03:47 |
| Yagisan | mhz: thanks. I think I'll need to do some pc repair work to tide me over christmas. | 03:47 |
| Yagisan | quick poll: anyone other then me working on christmas ? | 03:47 |
| mhz | Sure, but about 90% of my savings have been 'saved' for Edubuntu Chilean Tour, so I can't just afford to go there, guim ;) | 03:47 |
| mhz | Yagisan: me | 03:47 |
| guim | yes, sure | 03:48 |
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| Yagisan | wow, two more then I expected | 03:49 |
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| mhz | Yagisan: me.. well, not sure yet, but surely, I'll spend some hours in IRC | 03:49 |
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| guim | Yagisan : I will have 2 weeks off now ... sorry ;-) | 03:49 |
| Yagisan | catch you later mhz | 03:49 |
| Yagisan | guim: I don't think I'll get any holidays before 2007~2008 at the earliest (well, not without scoring a massive contract anyway) | 03:51 |
| guim | ... | 03:51 |
| guim | where do you work? url? | 03:52 |
| Yagisan | guim: I'm self employed. I have a mockup of the general design of my site here www.eyagiconsulting.com | 03:53 |
| guim | ok | 03:53 |
| guim | i take a quick look | 03:53 |
| Yagisan | guim: a real website *should* be up an running soon | 03:53 |
| guim | ok :) | 03:53 |
| Yagisan | guim: once I find something I'm happy with, and that IE users can use | 03:54 |
| Yagisan | guim: In a nutshell, I'm a security specalist | 03:54 |
| guim | ok | 03:54 |
| Yagisan | guim: which is why I have an ugly site with no scripting at all ;) | 03:54 |
| guim | :) | 03:55 |
| guim | did you test somes CMS? | 03:55 |
| guim | did'nt like any? | 03:55 |
| Yagisan | guim: going through them. I've decided to not use an wiki like stuff though | 03:55 |
| Yagisan | s/to not/not to | 03:56 |
| Yagisan | s/an/any | 03:56 |
| Yagisan | guim: you use edubuntu ? | 03:57 |
| guim | no, just ubuntu for now | 03:57 |
| guim | i work in a belgian researcher center, | 03:57 |
| guim | and suggested to integrate Claroline in edubuntu | 03:57 |
| guim | but we have .deb package yet :-( | 03:58 |
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| guim | Yagisan, I've decided to not use an wiki like stuff though <-- I though about things like joomla! or others | 03:58 |
| Yagisan | ok. I try to get ltsp to do funky things here. | 03:58 |
| Yagisan | guim: my first preference is for something I can 'sudo aptitude install' | 03:59 |
| Yagisan | guim: failing that, something I can package myself | 04:00 |
| guim | you are used to package applications? | 04:01 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, did you see the latest email to edubuntu-devel? now THAT's a signature | 04:01 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: huh? from who? | 04:02 |
| Yagisan | guim: some things. I maintain unoffical packages here http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/doomsday.en.html | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, oh crap sorry it was for -doc | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:03 |
| Yagisan | guim: I consider myself a newbie at it | 04:03 |
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| guim | ok | 04:03 |
| Yagisan | guim: If you have packaging issues, I can probably help you with most problems. | 04:04 |
| guim | I sent a mail on the edubuntu-devel ML today | 04:05 |
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| guim | we have our PHP/Mysql based LMS | 04:05 |
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| guim | for which I would like to have the .deb package | 04:05 |
| guim | okay | 04:05 |
| guim | for claroline (http://www.claroline.net) | 04:05 |
| guim | as said in the mail, i started the job some months ago, but i habe nver done that, and don't have much time to do it | 04:06 |
| Yagisan | guim: is that like moodle ? | 04:06 |
| guim | yes, very close | 04:06 |
| guim | that was actuall ythe discussion in the mail | 04:07 |
| guim | edubuntu has moodle, but claroline would be nice too ;-) | 04:07 |
| Yagisan | guim: It might be a good idea to 'apt-get source moodle' and see how that was packaged | 04:07 |
| guim | that is what i did | 04:07 |
| ogra | nooo | 04:07 |
| ogra | moodel is very badly packaged ... | 04:07 |
| Yagisan | heh - that got his attention | 04:08 |
| guim | but the moodle package is very very "poor" in a sense that it doesn't really install | 04:08 |
| ogra | thats why we dont have it on the CD :) | 04:08 |
| ogra | huh ? | 04:08 |
| ogra | it did during my testing for breezy | 04:08 |
| guim | ogra, the moodle package just send the user to the url ton coninute the web install | 04:08 |
| guim | right? | 04:08 |
| ogra | for the local setup, yes | 04:08 |
| ogra | nearly all php based CMS packages do that | 04:09 |
| guim | php/mysql application done with a web installer are not easy to change into .deb installer | 04:09 |
| guim | yes | 04:09 |
| guim | so do we... | 04:09 |
| Yagisan | guim: ok, anyway look at how moodle is packaged. See that. That is apparently an example of how not to do it ;) | 04:09 |
| guim | ;) | 04:09 |
| guim | it could at least be a good start anyway | 04:11 |
| guim | to do at least what they do | 04:11 |
| ogra | but omit the wwwconfig-common stuff for DB setup or you will suffer that same desiaes moodle suffers :) | 04:11 |
| guim | thanks for the tips | 04:12 |
| guim | is there actually any good php/mysql application that is also well packaged for debian? that would be a reference | 04:12 |
| ogra | probably drupal, havent looked at it yet ... | 04:13 |
| guim | mmm | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch might know | 04:13 |
| ogra | mediawiki might be ok too, it has other issues | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | IIRC he is the php guru | 04:13 |
| ogra | but the packaging of the 1.5 line should be fine | 04:13 |
| guim | i have been looking at its architecture some days ago, but didn't look at that the installation process | 04:13 |
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| guim | thans, i note that | 04:14 |
| guim | thanks ogra | 04:14 |
| Yagisan | bye ogra | 04:15 |
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| Yagisan | ogra: I can't add support for ppc clients on amd64/i386 servers, and i386 guests on ppc servers until if/when qemu has NPTL support. | 05:46 |
| Yagisan | ogra: spoke to some devs in #qemu about it, so it would be dapper + 1 maybe | 05:47 |
| Yagisan | ogra: I'll prepare some anticipatory patches as I get time, but that assumes qemu upstream (or a coding guru) fixes qemu. | 05:48 |
| Yagisan | ogra: of course the alternative would be to build ubuntu without NPTL support, but I don't see that happening before hell freezes over, as IIRC that would break amd64 for starters | 05:50 |
| Yagisan | Goodnight all | 05:52 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 08:05 |
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| jelkner | ogra: oliver, are you here? | 08:33 |
| jelkner | ogra: oliver? hello oliver... | 08:38 |
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| Lord_Athur | where does the aptitude program put the downloaded files .deb? | 09:07 |
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| MrMazda | /var/cache/apt or something like that | 09:18 |
| Lord_Athur | ok | 09:20 |
| Lord_Athur | thanks | 09:20 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 10:17 |
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