[12:06] i just got my yearly bonus ... tugether with my saved money it will be enough for a fat 12" ibook ... or a small 12" powerbook, not sure yet [12:06] but 6h battery power are soo cool :) [12:06] small 12" is better [12:07] just for the metal case ? [12:07] I had an ibook 12" and the battery really is amazing [12:07] not only [12:07] nvidia is odd ... [12:07] i dint really need 200Mhz more ... [12:07] I think ibook doen't has pcmcia, pb does [12:07] hmm, thats an argument [12:08] but the only one so far ... [12:08] and a reasonable [12:08] since airport isn't supported by linux [12:08] being not able to use sleep because of nvidia is a counter argument [12:09] ogra: ibook are even harder to open [12:09] there are nice usb wlan cards [12:09] you don't need the nv module, do you? [12:09] wait for Intel :D [12:09] i use the nv module on my amd64 lappie ... [12:09] but that doesnt matter [12:09] sleep doesnt work with either of the modules [12:10] why not? [12:10] ogra: last time i tried to open an ibook, almost broke the plastic stuff [12:10] the spec isnt open enough to make the HW work [12:10] you cant access the right registers if you dont know the addresses [12:11] so sleep will never work with nvidia no matter which module you use [12:11] ogra: pbook also have this super keyboard that lights based on how dark your room is [12:11] but i know it works with ati cards [12:11] yes, but thats all eye candy only ... [12:12] pcmcia *is* a pro argument ... but the only one i could find so far [12:12] breaking the plastic is no eye candy to me :) [12:12] why should i break it... if i own and use it, i'll know how to use it right to not break ir [12:12] *it [12:12] ibook is heavier than pbook [12:13] minimally [12:13] (my current one weights 4.5kg, everything is like feathers compared to this) [12:13] ogra: my ex ibook was happily living with me. One day I wanted to open the case to replace a part... oops, i didnt dare [12:14] ah, k screwdriver involved :) [12:14] then, when i had the pbook, it all was simple [12:14] mhz_shower: how is libretto linux support? [12:15] lucasvo: i have not tried one yet :( but I have heard it is decent [12:16] \sh_away has a r200 from canonicals laptop testing stock ... [12:16] http://www.linux-magazin.de/Artikel/ausgabe/1999/03/Libretto/libretto.html [12:16] its hard to install (no cdrom) but one of the coolest lappies i know [12:16] what is the brand/ [12:16] toshiba libretto [12:16] ogra: this fujitsu had no cd rom either, and came with Xp :( [12:17] http://www.qandr.org/quentin/writings/libretto/ [12:17] but 3500 are to much for a laptop [12:17] but your LTSP gave me good setting to use Netinstall [12:17] mhz_shower: isn't there a dock with CD-Rom? [12:17] even if its really light and cool [12:17] lucasvo: for which ? [12:17] the r200 is about 800g [12:17] me wants that! [12:18] i also had a look at the dell X1 .... [12:18] even cooler ... [12:18] 10" widescreen [12:18] but 1280x800 [12:18] but? [12:18] is that a but? [12:18] 2000 [12:19] thats the only but === mhz_shower is now known as mhz [12:19] my magic border fro laptops is at 1500, i'll never pay more for a lappie === mhz uses 2nd hand laptops only [12:20] http://www.holme.com/toshiba-libretto-u100-mini-notebook.htm < cool [12:20] i had to many odd experiences with second hand ones ... [12:20] me too [12:21] oh, i just see, the r200 is a protege, no libretto [12:21] http://www.holme.com/toshiba-portege-r200-notebook.htm [12:21] but after I got robbed 2 laptops... === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz only likes 10 inches or smaller [12:22] hmm, and its 400g heavier than i was told [12:22] ogra: arkan0x has a portege, BTW [12:22] a r200 ? [12:22] 3490ct [12:23] ogra: how about sharp? [12:23] nothing beats 6h battery power yet [12:23] and i need a powerpc for edubuntu testing [12:24] ogra: I can lend you one [12:24] so it will most likely become a ibook or a pbook [12:24] ogra: an iBook 12" [12:24] nah, i'll buy one, rather keep it and help testing :) [12:24] ogra: i'd be very happy with this one http://emperorlinux.com/mfgr/sharp/meteor/ [12:24] ogra: or you can buy an old G4 PowerMac for 600.- CHF [12:25] ogra: were quite good [12:25] lucasvo, i can buy a iMac for 160 [12:25] enough for testing [12:25] ogra: our school just bought G5 powermac's [12:25] nice :) [12:25] ogra: you really really only need it for testing? [12:25] my school has too much $$$$ [12:26] nope, i'm travellin a lot since i work for canonical ... i need a laptop with as long battery power as i can get [12:26] i always envy the people around me if my battery is out after 2h [12:27] but amd64 is simply no laptop processor :) [12:27] mhz: working on the doc team? [12:27] tried to [12:27] my xml sucks [12:27] mhz: just rember and not [12:27] :D [12:27] it is normal html [12:27] my xml sucks [12:27] hehhe, thx [12:28] and
is wrong [12:28] it should mean
[12:28] my only skills for docing is moin [12:28] lucasvo: in moin, [[BR] ] is enough [12:28] :D [12:29] one could export it to moin [12:29] but moin is not good tor LaTex export [12:29] lucasvo: there are ways [12:29] yup, probably u r right === mhz is now known as mhz_BBS === tclong [n=tclong@adsl-65-68-166-73.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:39] ogra: why do you travel a lot? [12:39] ogra: where do you go? [12:40] in the last 12 months i was in mataro (near barcelona), sydney, london, bergen (.no) and montreal ... and additionally at a lot different places in germany ... [12:41] in januray/february we'll meet in london again and inbetween i have to attend some conferences in germany [12:42] sydney was the worst ... i'm a stron smoker and 27h flight are really hard :) [12:42] (with a stop in singapore after 18h) [12:44] and i suspect i'll travel a lot more, edubuntu needs promotion and i'm the guy who knows most about it [12:45] aslo mark has a lot of requests for collaboration with other edu projects where i'll hve to attend meetings next year i guess [12:45] so my travelling time over the year will rise ... [12:45] Greetings from Arkansas in the US! === ogra waves back from bermany [12:46] heh [12:46] germany indeed [12:46] It sounds like you stay busy, ogra [12:46] i am :) [12:47] but currently i'll have to develop the next edubuntu first, then promotion will start :) [12:48] ogra: stop smoking, then you don't have problems with flying anymore :D [12:48] I installed ubuntu on my laptop last week and I've been very impressed with it. Now I'm trying to install edubuntu on my son's (6yo) computer. [12:49] yes, but then i'll get an angry guy :) [12:49] ogra: why? [12:49] tclong, make sure to read the wikipage mentionedin the topic :) [12:49] ogra: smoking isn't relaxing [12:49] tclong: for e.g. you may not want to install ltsp, so use workstation as a boot option [12:50] lucasvo, right... dont start it, if you havent ... [12:51] ogra: and if you started, stop [12:51] thats the hard part ... [12:51] ...and you need to really wnat it ... [12:51] *want [12:51] ogra: mark should send you to some freakin village in india where the next store is 100km away... [12:52] i'd find a way :) [12:52] ogra: no, because you don't want to? [12:52] ogra: ever tried to stop? [12:52] nope ... because i know i'd fail ... because i dont really want to ... [12:52] my grandparents were upset because since last week it is prohibited to smoke in trains [12:53] ogra: imagine what pc you could buy whith the money spent on cigarettes [12:53] thats odd ... in germany we have at least half a wagon left for smokers ... [12:53] i could be rich :) i know [12:53] you should try ! [12:54] i probably will ... one day ... [12:54] thnx ogra! === lucasvo is off for bed [12:54] no, i think i *must* one day ... but thats not yet ... [12:54] haha [12:54] like in 01/01/06 ? [12:55] nope [12:55] never ever will you see mee making such statements ... [12:55] good [12:55] but still you should stop [12:56] yup... [12:56] i'm surel my health will force me once ... [12:56] be a man, be powerful, stop smoking! ;-) [12:56] i stopped worse stuff in my life to prove how powerful i am, but that doesnt belong into this channel ;) [12:57] you don't have to prove, you have to be [12:57] lucasvo, you wont convince me ... [12:57] ogra: I won't die of lung cancer [12:57] thats something only my inner voiceeeeeeeeeeeecan ... [12:57] oops [12:58] maybe ^^ this was your inner voice :D === ogra kicks his keyboard [12:59] ogra: feel free to take me a long to your edubuntu world promotion tour ... [12:59] hehe, i doubt it will be a world tour [12:59] maybe asia or africa would be interesting :D [01:00] but if all goes fine i'll be in bruxelles for fosdem ... [01:00] i have no plans beyond that yet ... mark forwarded me some invitations for german events ... [01:01] the worls tour stuff is done by jdub and mark ... edubuntu inst as popular as ubuntu :) [01:01] s/inst/isnt [01:02] you could send me to Ireland, Italy and Australia. I wouldn't argue. My wife wouldn't be very happy about it, unless she and the kids could come too. ;) [01:03] i thought the same when i started working for canonical ... but travelling more than every 2 monts makes you tired of travelling... [01:06] that's why they should bring more people on board at canonical (I'm job hunting, by the way ;) so that the traveling and publicizing could be delegated out more and there could be a better balance between travel/promotion and development. eh? [01:07] heh, yes ... [01:07] but its nice to see your colleagues from time to time [01:07] tclong, we're looking for a QA specialist [01:08] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/employment/document_view [01:10] I don't think that I would qualify experience wise, though I am trainable and like solving technical issues. [01:12] But I'll keep checking back [01:13] I guess I have had some QA experience as a network administrator, but nothing formal. [01:14] trying to apply wont do any harm i guess ;) [01:15] tis true [01:15] my wife says that too. heh! === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@210.4.38.43] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@201.222.191.36] has joined #edubuntu === alejandro [n=alejandr@201.214.37.30] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:19] hi there === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu [02:40] de ubuntu a edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === lguerra [n=lguerra@201.244.4.220] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:17] edubuntu loaded and resume/references submitted to hr. 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[02:12] ogra: my patch suck ? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21370 [02:13] who said that ? [02:14] ogra: I was wondering if you checked it, just wanted to know if you liked it, or thought it was crap. [02:14] it could be more elegant, but its a start :) [02:15] ogra: I'd have rather made it use a config file, but I can't access outside of the chroot [02:15] so use it inside the chroot ;) [02:15] ogra: and I didn't check to see if /etc is overwritten inside the chroot [02:16] it isnt === MrMazda waves to ogra and Yagisan [02:17] ogra: OK. I'll change it to source a ltsp-fstab file from /etc in the chroot a bit later tonight === ogra waves back === Yagisan waves back to MrMazda [02:18] ogra: I noticed some irony on some of my bug reports with patches on malone today [02:20] ogra: I'm a member of MOTUmedia, and I sent the patches, they been assigned to, yep MOTUmedia. It was mildly amusing to me. [02:20] heh [02:22] ogra: did you want me to write up my notes for the dvd ripping cluster. It might be useful for getting local apps working [02:22] ogra: as I run transcode locally on the nodes [02:23] sure, why not :) [02:23] ogra: was there a spec for local apps ? [02:23] nope [02:23] not in focus for this release [02:24] excellent, then I'm not just incapable of finding one. === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H135.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has left #edubuntu ["So] === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [03:03] odd question, but can I boot memtest86 over the network ? === pitux [n=jose@53-42-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.94.42] has joined #edubuntu [03:26] ok. I can take the silence as nobody tried booting memtest86 over the network. [03:28] might or might not work :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:39] hi [03:40] G'day Lord_Athur [03:40] ogra: can I dcc you a tiny debdiff to look at ? [03:40] hi Yagisan [03:40] if it gets through ... [03:40] ogra, I recived the mail of the woman that sees the resquest of CDs [03:41] g'day all [03:41] and she told me that edubuntu is not giving CDs now [03:41] Lord_Athur, JaneW is here [03:41] ogra: is that more elegant ? [03:41] Yagisan, after the meeting ... [03:41] who is JaneW? [03:41] jajjaa [03:41] JaneW, hi [03:41] I'm Alejandro Len Vega === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:42] Sorry ogra, didn't now a meeting was on [03:42] s/now/know [03:42] Hi Alejandro, was amuricio able to help you? [03:42] yes [03:42] he was [03:42] great :) [03:42] :D [03:42] jsgotangco, what's up ? [03:42] Hi Mauricio, JaneW and others! [03:43] i am following with lots interest the last dscussion in mailing list [03:43] mhz: feeling better today ? [03:44] not really.. I have just realized Tour won't be possible unless I get a job (normal under salary basis job) [03:44] so, i am organizing agenda to go and ask for a job, Yagisan [03:45] at least until March-April [03:45] (the time Edubuntu Tour should start) [03:45] guim: hi [03:45] :) [03:45] mhz: Good luck. I need to whip myself to find some more customers. I haven't had many recently :( [03:46] Yagisan: I'll be off for about 6 to 7 hours, today. [03:46] we are soon going to look for someone... in Belgium ! [03:46] Yagisan: good luck to you too [03:46] guim: good! I live in Chile :) [03:46] yes.. I knew ;-) [03:47] don't want to spend some days here ? ;-) [03:47] mhz: thanks. I think I'll need to do some pc repair work to tide me over christmas. [03:47] quick poll: anyone other then me working on christmas ? [03:47] Sure, but about 90% of my savings have been 'saved' for Edubuntu Chilean Tour, so I can't just afford to go there, guim ;) [03:47] Yagisan: me [03:48] yes, sure === jrjle [n=osku@dsl-hkigw4-fe3bde00-88.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu [03:49] wow, two more then I expected === jrjle is now known as Oge_ [03:49] Yagisan: me.. well, not sure yet, but surely, I'll spend some hours in IRC === mhz going off === Yagisan will be printing advertising leaflets [03:49] Yagisan : I will have 2 weeks off now ... sorry ;-) [03:49] catch you later mhz [03:51] guim: I don't think I'll get any holidays before 2007~2008 at the earliest (well, not without scoring a massive contract anyway) [03:51] ... [03:52] where do you work? url? [03:53] guim: I'm self employed. I have a mockup of the general design of my site here www.eyagiconsulting.com [03:53] ok [03:53] i take a quick look [03:53] guim: a real website *should* be up an running soon [03:53] ok :) [03:54] guim: once I find something I'm happy with, and that IE users can use [03:54] guim: In a nutshell, I'm a security specalist [03:54] ok [03:54] guim: which is why I have an ugly site with no scripting at all ;) [03:55] :) [03:55] did you test somes CMS? [03:55] did'nt like any? [03:55] guim: going through them. I've decided to not use an wiki like stuff though [03:56] s/to not/not to [03:56] s/an/any [03:57] guim: you use edubuntu ? [03:57] no, just ubuntu for now [03:57] i work in a belgian researcher center, [03:57] and suggested to integrate Claroline in edubuntu [03:58] but we have .deb package yet :-( === lululinux [n=chatzill@B2a-CommercialWay-Brooksville-28.ij.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:58] Yagisan, I've decided to not use an wiki like stuff though <-- I though about things like joomla! or others [03:58] ok. I try to get ltsp to do funky things here. [03:59] guim: my first preference is for something I can 'sudo aptitude install' [04:00] guim: failing that, something I can package myself [04:01] you are used to package applications? [04:01] JaneW, did you see the latest email to edubuntu-devel? now THAT's a signature [04:02] jsgotangco: huh? from who? [04:02] guim: some things. I maintain unoffical packages here http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/doomsday.en.html [04:03] JaneW, oh crap sorry it was for -doc [04:03] heh [04:03] guim: I consider myself a newbie at it === JaneW goes === Yagisan notes he really should update that page [04:03] ok [04:04] guim: If you have packaging issues, I can probably help you with most problems. [04:05] I sent a mail on the edubuntu-devel ML today === Yagisan prepares to backport qemu to see if he can finish off multi-arch support [04:05] we have our PHP/Mysql based LMS === Yagisan isn't subscribed to edubuntu-devel [04:05] for which I would like to have the .deb package [04:05] okay [04:05] for claroline (http://www.claroline.net) [04:06] as said in the mail, i started the job some months ago, but i habe nver done that, and don't have much time to do it [04:06] guim: is that like moodle ? [04:06] yes, very close [04:07] that was actuall ythe discussion in the mail [04:07] edubuntu has moodle, but claroline would be nice too ;-) [04:07] guim: It might be a good idea to 'apt-get source moodle' and see how that was packaged [04:07] that is what i did [04:07] nooo [04:07] moodel is very badly packaged ... [04:08] heh - that got his attention [04:08] but the moodle package is very very "poor" in a sense that it doesn't really install [04:08] thats why we dont have it on the CD :) [04:08] huh ? [04:08] it did during my testing for breezy [04:08] ogra, the moodle package just send the user to the url ton coninute the web install [04:08] right? [04:08] for the local setup, yes [04:09] nearly all php based CMS packages do that [04:09] php/mysql application done with a web installer are not easy to change into .deb installer [04:09] yes [04:09] so do we... [04:09] guim: ok, anyway look at how moodle is packaged. See that. That is apparently an example of how not to do it ;) [04:09] ;) [04:11] it could at least be a good start anyway [04:11] to do at least what they do [04:11] but omit the wwwconfig-common stuff for DB setup or you will suffer that same desiaes moodle suffers :) [04:12] thanks for the tips [04:12] is there actually any good php/mysql application that is also well packaged for debian? that would be a reference [04:13] probably drupal, havent looked at it yet ... [04:13] mmm [04:13] ajmitch might know [04:13] mediawiki might be ok too, it has other issues [04:13] IIRC he is the php guru [04:13] but the packaging of the 1.5 line should be fine [04:13] i have been looking at its architecture some days ago, but didn't look at that the installation process === Yagisan hopes he isn't mixing names up again === ogra is off for some shopping [04:14] thans, i note that [04:14] thanks ogra [04:15] bye ogra === tom__ is now known as tom === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] [05:46] ogra: I can't add support for ppc clients on amd64/i386 servers, and i386 guests on ppc servers until if/when qemu has NPTL support. [05:47] ogra: spoke to some devs in #qemu about it, so it would be dapper + 1 maybe [05:48] ogra: I'll prepare some anticipatory patches as I get time, but that assumes qemu upstream (or a coding guru) fixes qemu. [05:50] ogra: of course the alternative would be to build ubuntu without NPTL support, but I don't see that happening before hell freezes over, as IIRC that would break amd64 for starters [05:52] Goodnight all === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-9-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H135.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #edubuntu === freelove [n=yasser@59.93.246.195] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === lululinux [n=chatzill@B2a-CommercialWay-Brooksville-28.ij.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:05] hi === jclinton [n=jclinton@pdpc/supporter/student/jclinton] has joined #edubuntu === jclinton [n=jclinton@pdpc/supporter/student/jclinton] has left #edubuntu ["Kopete] === jelkner [n=jelkner@158.59.247.77] has joined #edubuntu [08:33] ogra: oliver, are you here? [08:38] ogra: oliver? hello oliver... === markit86 [n=markit86@88-105-105-157.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:07] where does the aptitude program put the downloaded files .deb? === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084DAC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:18] /var/cache/apt or something like that [09:20] ok [09:20] thanks === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:17] hi === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-236.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-167-98.tri-isys.com] has joined #edubuntu === irvin_ [n=irvin@203.213.194.27] has joined #edubuntu === irvin_ is now known as irvin