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cliebowhi: ogra suggested i ask here..using 2.6.12-10-386 no /dev/video* devices are created..lsusb shows a quickcam..quickcam and videodev are loaded modules..i made my own /dev/video* and a simlink to /dev/video0..but still get no such device..you guys have a ny suggestions?12:10
crimsunwhich device?12:16
cliebowit is a connectix corp quickcam.12:16
cliebowi compiled the module for it12:17
cliebowim one of the ltsp guys12:17
crimsunlsusb -v -> pastebin, please12:17
crimsunhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:17
cliebowi p-asted..dont see it here.600512:19
crimsun0478:0001, hmm.12:20
crimsunanyway you could provide -v output?12:20
cliebowhave prob with that..says cant get hub description12:21
cliebowohh12:22
cliebowohh12:23
cliebowthat help?12:23
cliebow600612:23
crimsunyep, thanks, sec.12:24
crimsunI'm pretty sure you need a the vc-specific driver12:28
crimsuns/a the/the/12:28
cliebowi see..il google for that andpress on then..thanks a heap12:29
crimsuncliebow: out of curiosity, what does dmesg say regarding the quickcam?12:32
cliebowsugg on easiest cam to work with?12:32
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cliebowtake a sec12:33
cliebowusbcore:registered new driver quickcam12:33
cliebowid happily buy one i knew would more or less jusgt work12:35
cliebowno other clues12:36
crimsunhmm, so no other info regarding quickcam in dmesg?12:37
cliebowi could nt see anything else..still poikng12:37
cliebowsbalneaves has used the same durn thing in ubuntu...dont get it..i donr know what builds /dev/video*12:38
crimsunthe quickcam kernel module will cause /dev/video* to be enumerated12:39
cliebowmaybe i screwed up the compile..thougt all went well..12:40
crimsunno, it's not the compile. It's either a completely different model with an obscure vendor/product id, or something else12:41
cliebowill find something else if this still barfs..thanks for trying12:42
crimsunit looks like you'll need to pull from cvs head (usb-quickcam-vc)12:48
cliebowahh ha12:48
cliebowahh from cvs12:49
crimsunthen apply a patch (http://projects.troy.rollo.name/quickcam-vc/diffs-cvs-20050426.patch) against the cvs head checkout12:51
crimsunthen compile that driver against linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:51
cliebowa patch to the cvs head source then12:52
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cliebowpull it from source forge then?12:52
crimsunyep12:52
cliebowgot the patch..unsure how to pull the source code12:56
crimsuncvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/usb-quickcam-vc login && cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/usb-quickcam-vc co -P qcamvc12:56
crimsunthe diff is against the qcamvc/linux_2.6 sourc12:57
crimsun+e12:57
crimsunyou'll also need to hack qcamvc.c a bit for the remap_page_range() obsoletion01:00
cliebowwow...ill give er a try..got to put the roast in..01:02
cliebowlet you know if i get anywhere..8)01:02
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crimsunI'll walk you through it01:06
crimsunI've compiled it, but I can't test it because I lack the hardware01:06
crimsuncliebow: here's a diff you can apply against a fresh checkout: http://sh.nu/~crimsun/qcamvc.patched.diff01:09
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cliebowvery good!!01:10
crimsuncliebow: the diff on my Web site combines the colourspace patches and the compilation diff; it compiles with gcc-3.4 and linux-headers-$(uname -r) on Breezy01:10
cliebowwow..01:11
cliebowill have tocheck that $CC=gcc-3.401:11
crimsunyou'll need to run ''make modules'' from qcamvc/linux_2.601:12
crimsunprobably want to ''make install'' as well; the module to load is qcamvc_usb01:12
cliebowalright..the patch in same directory as qcamvc.c i suppose01:13
crimsunif you pass -d to patch, sure01:13
crimsunotherwise you need to be in qcamvc/01:13
crimsunhopefully that will get you going with it01:15
cliebowpatch -p0 qcmvc.patched.diff01:15
cliebowpatch -p0 qcamvc.patched.diff01:15
crimsunpatch -p1 < qcamvc.patched.diff01:15
cliebowpatch -p1  <qcamvc.patched.diff01:16
cliebowwhoops01:16
cliebowpatched01:16
cliebow8~)01:16
crimsunyep, now just export CC=gcc-3.4 && make modules01:16
cliebowwow01:17
cliebowand pop the .o files somewhere?01:18
crimsun''sudo make install''01:19
crimsunthen you'll probably want to ''sudo depmod -e''01:20
cliebowthen modprobe?01:20
crimsun''sudo modprobe qcamvc_usb''01:20
cliebowthat went asd well01:21
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crimsunnow check if you have /dev/video*01:21
rtcmBenC: just installed 2.6.15-9-385 and my sis performance problem continues01:21
rtcm*38601:21
cliebowhmm.doesnt look good..maybe rmmod all the crap i put in and start fromscratch01:23
crimsuncliebow: yeah, modprobe -r all those (including qcamvc*)01:23
cliebowstill no /dev/video..but i think ill reboot and start fresh01:25
cliebowstill no /dev/video*..but i think ill reboot and start fresh01:26
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cliebowHey: i got /dev/video001:27
crimsunexcellent.01:28
crimsunit should register such in dmesg, too.01:28
cliebowmodprobe will insert the module at boot when i reboot01:29
cliebow?01:29
cliebowok killing this sucker..bbl!!crimsun thanks for taking the time...owe you a cold one or two if there is another ubz..heh prob be in Guatemala or somewhere01:31
rtcmBenC: just added the comment on the bug01:31
crimsuncliebow: it should, yes.01:32
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cliebowcrimsun: i did get gqcam to start..i got a bright green square..canorama still refuses torecognize the dev/video0..but i got a start!01:46
crimsuncliebow: might need to check the permissions on /dev/video0 then.01:47
cliebowk01:47
cliebow66001:47
crimsunuser:group ?01:47
crimsun(root:video ?)01:48
cliebowyes root:video01:48
crimsunhmm, that should be fine then.01:48
cliebowi got a fuzzt image in gnomemeeting so i am on a rll01:54
crimsun:)01:58
crimsununfortunately I'm not very much assistance beyond this01:58
cliebowno so fuzzy01:58
cliebowyou did a hell of a job..most pleased to meet you..01:59
crimsunditto.02:00
cliebowputting supper on the table...g night!!02:00
crimsun'night02:01
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cjbEvenin'.04:06
cjbairlied++ # "if your needs are better served by the flagship X product, XFree86, far be it from us to allow the door to hit you in the ass on the way out.."04:09
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fabbionemorning06:17
crimsunmorning06:19
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-9.14 uploaded (The "Adam Adulterated the Awesome Build Architecture" release)
=== Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Wed Dec 21 14:58:27 2005
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pappanBenC: hi12:02
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CataEnryhi all12:38
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fabbioneBenC: -> ubuntu-meeting03:02
BenCdoh!03:02
fabbione:)03:02
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zulheylo03:53
pappanhow do i get the ubuntu kernel source from my linux machine04:06
jbaileypappan: We'll tell you if you promise to keep your client from cycling every 15 minutes all night again... =)04:13
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pappanjbailey: really i am trying to fix it04:15
pappanbut not sure what is causing the problem04:16
jbaileypappan: Well, alright then.  With all Ubuntu apps, apt-get source will give you the source to what made the pacakge, and apt-get build-dep will install all the dependancies you need to build it.04:16
jbaileypappan: If you install 'devscripts', then you can just go into the directory, twiddle it a bit and then type "debuild" and have it build.04:17
jbaileyThat's generically true for all Ubuntu and Debian packages.04:17
jbaileypappan: Your firewall it probably causing your connection to timeout after 15m of inactivity.04:17
jbaileyYou might be able ot set your IRC client or something to do keepalives.04:17
pappanjbailey: ty04:19
pappani will try to fix it04:19
pappanbye catch you all later04:20
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zulhow ironic...04:49
zuljbailey: heh...last night i was playing soccer and i was howling in pain04:51
jbaileyzul: Still upset over losing the hockey game?04:53
zuljbailey: no i got bagged with the soccer ball05:00
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BenCouch05:05
zulyeah..05:08
zuli didnt feel like doing much after that05:08
zulbut i did score a goal off that rebound05:08
jbailey*lol*05:11
BenCzul: it's all about sacrifice :)05:14
jbailey"I'd give my left nut to score a OUCH!"05:15
zulBenC: my wife wasnt impressed we are trying to start a family and she was concerned for once ;005:16
jbaileyzul: Tell her you're just culling the weak ones. =)05:18
zullol05:28
BenCzul: lol05:28
BenCmy wife doesn't get concerned anymore since we have 3 kids05:29
zulat least im not pissing blood yet05:29
BenCshe says things like "I hope they get chopped off", which tends to scare me05:29
jbaileyBenC: vasectomies halt male pattern baldness.05:29
BenC"Just leave the important part"05:29
BenCjbailey: no shit??!?!05:29
jbaileyBenC: Yeah, lowers testosterone production usually enough to stop it.05:30
jbaileyIt won't reverse it at all, though.05:30
BenChmm...need to look into that then05:30
zulhair club for men works as well05:33
zulmy wife is suppose to have an appointment today to get her ovaries checked today as well.. fun fun i hear05:34
cjb`How old were you both when you had your first kid, OOI?05:45
zulcjb`: still working on number one05:47
cjb`Ah.  :)05:47
zulim 30 btw05:53
cjb`'kay.05:57
cjb`I'm 24, my wife's 26, and she wants lots of kids and thinks she needs to start soon.  ;-)05:58
fabbionecjb`: and she is right to start soon05:58
cjb`Well, not that soon; it's obvious that I'm too young, and she's too still-in-grad-school.  But I think she certainly wants to have started by the time she's 30.05:58
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cjb`fabbione: You think so?05:58
fabbioneyes05:58
CataEnryhi all :)05:59
cjb`I guess I'm holding her back by being younger.  Oh well.05:59
fabbionecjb`: well the woman should have her first baby no later than 3005:59
fabbionethat's what they suggest at least05:59
fabbionespecially if you plan to have a soccer team06:00
cjb`Yes, I agree with that.06:00
cjb`But I'd rather it be closer to 30 such that I'm at least on the other side of 25.  :)06:00
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BenCcjb: I was 24 when I had my first06:01
BenCand I'm glad I wasn't any older06:02
BenCyou don't want to be 50 with a kid graduating :)06:02
BenCof course, I'll be 49 when my youngest is graduating06:02
cjb`Gosh.06:03
cjb`I just turned 24.  I wonder what has to happen before I feel vaguely ready to have kids.06:03
BenCyou have to balance the years before kids with the years after...you don't want to be so old you can't enjoy the time after your kids grow up06:04
cjb`OOI, did you have a stable job/feel like you were able to be financially responsible for a kid yet?06:04
BenCnot really06:04
BenChaving a kid forced me into responsibility (mentally)06:04
cjb`Ah.06:04
BenCusually kids tend to make you ready, rather then you being ready for kids :)06:05
cjb`*nod* Okay.  Thanks!06:06
jbaileyfabbione: There's no real reason to make sure you're before 30.  You'll have a lower chance of getting past the first three months, but not dramatically.06:07
BenCit's a personal decision everyone has to make for themsevles06:07
BenCno time is right for everybody06:07
fabbionejbailey: that's not the only reason06:07
cjb`It looks like I have another two years or so, unless a kid comes along unplanned, 'cause we're waiting for my wife to finish grad school.  But it sounds like I'd be weird for feeling like it's a "good" time to have kids and that I was ready for the responsibility, which is reassuring.  :)06:07
jbaileyfabbione: Health wise, doctors here say it doesn't really matter now.  I can't remember what the numbers are, but a large percentage of women in N. America now have their first child after 30.06:08
jbaileycjb`: From what I've heard, 9 months is a good amout of warm up time to psych yourself up for it. =)06:08
fabbionejbailey: the thing that the doc told us is that the woman body reacts better in recovering after the prgnacy06:08
jbaileyWell, somewhere between 6 and 8 depending on when you figure it out. =)06:08
cjb`jbailey: That's fine if you only want to have one.  If you're aiming for four, starting at 30 means you're getting towards the end of your fertility after a few.06:09
BenCcjb: yeah, when my wife and I decided to have our first, I was thought "great, more reason to have sex", and didn't really think through the consequences, but I don't regret it :)06:09
cjb`Hah.06:09
fabbioneahah06:09
jbaileyfabbione: Right.  You want to be generally good health to recover well.06:09
BenCactually I thought, "hell yeah, no birth control, and I don't have to pull out"06:09
fabbionejbailey: exactly..06:09
cjb`BenC: How many are you planning on?06:09
jbailey*four*?06:09
cjb`!06:09
BenC3 is our limit, which makes us done06:10
jbaileyI think if we have two kids, I'm heading for the doctors office. =)06:10
cjb`*sigh* My wife grew up with three siblings, and thinks it was great and her kids should have so many siblings too.06:10
BenCgrandparents want us to try for a fourth to see if we can get a girl, but they'll have to look elsewhere06:10
BenCI only had one brother (twin)06:10
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BenCmy dad has a single sister, and my mom was with 3 siblings (same with my wife)06:11
jbaileyI have one sister, 5 yrs older.06:11
BenCso single kid was out of the question06:11
cjb`Yeah, one brother for me too.  He's six years older, we aren't so close.06:11
BenClater fabio06:11
BenCmy brohter and I weren't so close either, even being twins06:12
cjb`So I can see her point about having siblings closer to your age around, at least.06:12
cjb`Interesting.  I don't think I've ever known any twins.06:12
BenCwe had different friends, and did nothing but argue :)06:12
BenCeven now he's a bastard and I don't really talk to him often except around holidays06:13
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cjb`Heh.06:13
cjb`Is he a programmer too?06:13
BenCsomewhat, he's more into online presence and marketing06:13
BenChe's the manager type I always scoff :)06:14
cjb`:)06:14
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zulBenC: ditto...everything but the twin part06:40
cjb`I like my brother, we're just very different.  (For example, I'm married at 24, and he's never with the same girlfriend for too long at 29.  :)06:41
zulmy brother is evil06:42
cjb`Wow, evil's a pretty strong word.  Is he a spammer?  :)06:43
zulno just general evilness06:47
zul*sigh* i have to go to the hospital later..07:06
cjb`Weird.  Trying to use nvidia under LRM under 2.6.15-9 gives "libc_wrapper error: passed invalid FILE handle to xf86fprintf" when I start X.07:15
BenCdoes it not work, or just an error?07:30
cjb`That's a fatal error, X dies.07:42
cjb`It could be the userspace glx stuff, though, I'm not saying it's the kernel.  Weird that the error doesn't show up on Google.07:43
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mkrufkyBenC: I saw you pulled from Linus' tree two hours ago.... you JUST missed a alsa/oss collision bugfix patch for saa7134 (hybrid v4l/dvb) ....08:24
mkrufkyyou can either pull it next time, or pull from either Mauro's tree Linus' tree again08:24
BenCI'll be pulling again08:24
mkrufkyok cool... thanx08:24
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zulhey guys09:49
BenCyo zul10:04
BenC"There is only zul"10:04
zulexcept the french guy who takes my nick when im not here10:04
zulbastards..10:05
AcidPilshi10:05
AcidPilsBenC: i found a little typo in the readme for the acx module 10:05
BenCmajor "wrong command" typo, or minor "speling" typo?10:06
AcidPilswrong command10:06
AcidPilsfw_version10:06
BenCah, do a bug report for me please10:06
AcidPilsk10:06
BenCon linux-restricted-modules-2.6.1510:07
BenCinfinity probably wont be back till next year, so I don't want to forget about it10:07
BenCactually, just linux-restricted-modules is fine10:07
AcidPilshmm.. i had a soloution, but i cant remember the right command :o10:08
AcidPilsBenC: 2142310:11
BenCfirmware_ver10:15
BenCmodinfo acx will show you10:16
AcidPilsah, nice command, didn't know that till now10:16
AcidPils*bugreport update*10:17
BenCalready did it :)10:18
AcidPilsme too ;) 10:18
AcidPils*undo*10:18
BenCneed to test latest build10:19
AcidPilsif he will come back?10:32
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zulhey lamont__ 10:35
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TheMusoMerry Christmas to you. Hope you have an enjoyable Christmas where ever10:58
TheMusoyou are.10:58
AcidPilschristmas... hmmm... need some gifts11:00
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