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cliebow | hi: ogra suggested i ask here..using 2.6.12-10-386 no /dev/video* devices are created..lsusb shows a quickcam..quickcam and videodev are loaded modules..i made my own /dev/video* and a simlink to /dev/video0..but still get no such device..you guys have a ny suggestions? | 12:10 |
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crimsun | which device? | 12:16 |
cliebow | it is a connectix corp quickcam. | 12:16 |
cliebow | i compiled the module for it | 12:17 |
cliebow | im one of the ltsp guys | 12:17 |
crimsun | lsusb -v -> pastebin, please | 12:17 |
crimsun | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | 12:17 |
cliebow | i p-asted..dont see it here.6005 | 12:19 |
crimsun | 0478:0001, hmm. | 12:20 |
crimsun | anyway you could provide -v output? | 12:20 |
cliebow | have prob with that..says cant get hub description | 12:21 |
cliebow | ohh | 12:22 |
cliebow | ohh | 12:23 |
cliebow | that help? | 12:23 |
cliebow | 6006 | 12:23 |
crimsun | yep, thanks, sec. | 12:24 |
crimsun | I'm pretty sure you need a the vc-specific driver | 12:28 |
crimsun | s/a the/the/ | 12:28 |
cliebow | i see..il google for that andpress on then..thanks a heap | 12:29 |
crimsun | cliebow: out of curiosity, what does dmesg say regarding the quickcam? | 12:32 |
cliebow | sugg on easiest cam to work with? | 12:32 |
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cliebow | take a sec | 12:33 |
cliebow | usbcore:registered new driver quickcam | 12:33 |
cliebow | id happily buy one i knew would more or less jusgt work | 12:35 |
cliebow | no other clues | 12:36 |
crimsun | hmm, so no other info regarding quickcam in dmesg? | 12:37 |
cliebow | i could nt see anything else..still poikng | 12:37 |
cliebow | sbalneaves has used the same durn thing in ubuntu...dont get it..i donr know what builds /dev/video* | 12:38 |
crimsun | the quickcam kernel module will cause /dev/video* to be enumerated | 12:39 |
cliebow | maybe i screwed up the compile..thougt all went well.. | 12:40 |
crimsun | no, it's not the compile. It's either a completely different model with an obscure vendor/product id, or something else | 12:41 |
cliebow | ill find something else if this still barfs..thanks for trying | 12:42 |
crimsun | it looks like you'll need to pull from cvs head (usb-quickcam-vc) | 12:48 |
cliebow | ahh ha | 12:48 |
cliebow | ahh from cvs | 12:49 |
crimsun | then apply a patch (http://projects.troy.rollo.name/quickcam-vc/diffs-cvs-20050426.patch) against the cvs head checkout | 12:51 |
crimsun | then compile that driver against linux-headers-$(uname -r) | 12:51 |
cliebow | a patch to the cvs head source then | 12:52 |
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cliebow | pull it from source forge then? | 12:52 |
crimsun | yep | 12:52 |
cliebow | got the patch..unsure how to pull the source code | 12:56 |
crimsun | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/usb-quickcam-vc login && cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/usb-quickcam-vc co -P qcamvc | 12:56 |
crimsun | the diff is against the qcamvc/linux_2.6 sourc | 12:57 |
crimsun | +e | 12:57 |
crimsun | you'll also need to hack qcamvc.c a bit for the remap_page_range() obsoletion | 01:00 |
cliebow | wow...ill give er a try..got to put the roast in.. | 01:02 |
cliebow | let you know if i get anywhere..8) | 01:02 |
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crimsun | I'll walk you through it | 01:06 |
crimsun | I've compiled it, but I can't test it because I lack the hardware | 01:06 |
crimsun | cliebow: here's a diff you can apply against a fresh checkout: http://sh.nu/~crimsun/qcamvc.patched.diff | 01:09 |
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cliebow | very good!! | 01:10 |
crimsun | cliebow: the diff on my Web site combines the colourspace patches and the compilation diff; it compiles with gcc-3.4 and linux-headers-$(uname -r) on Breezy | 01:10 |
cliebow | wow.. | 01:11 |
cliebow | ill have tocheck that $CC=gcc-3.4 | 01:11 |
crimsun | you'll need to run ''make modules'' from qcamvc/linux_2.6 | 01:12 |
crimsun | probably want to ''make install'' as well; the module to load is qcamvc_usb | 01:12 |
cliebow | alright..the patch in same directory as qcamvc.c i suppose | 01:13 |
crimsun | if you pass -d to patch, sure | 01:13 |
crimsun | otherwise you need to be in qcamvc/ | 01:13 |
crimsun | hopefully that will get you going with it | 01:15 |
cliebow | patch -p0 qcmvc.patched.diff | 01:15 |
cliebow | patch -p0 qcamvc.patched.diff | 01:15 |
crimsun | patch -p1 < qcamvc.patched.diff | 01:15 |
cliebow | patch -p1 <qcamvc.patched.diff | 01:16 |
cliebow | whoops | 01:16 |
cliebow | patched | 01:16 |
cliebow | 8~) | 01:16 |
crimsun | yep, now just export CC=gcc-3.4 && make modules | 01:16 |
cliebow | wow | 01:17 |
cliebow | and pop the .o files somewhere? | 01:18 |
crimsun | ''sudo make install'' | 01:19 |
crimsun | then you'll probably want to ''sudo depmod -e'' | 01:20 |
cliebow | then modprobe? | 01:20 |
crimsun | ''sudo modprobe qcamvc_usb'' | 01:20 |
cliebow | that went asd well | 01:21 |
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crimsun | now check if you have /dev/video* | 01:21 |
rtcm | BenC: just installed 2.6.15-9-385 and my sis performance problem continues | 01:21 |
rtcm | *386 | 01:21 |
cliebow | hmm.doesnt look good..maybe rmmod all the crap i put in and start fromscratch | 01:23 |
crimsun | cliebow: yeah, modprobe -r all those (including qcamvc*) | 01:23 |
cliebow | still no /dev/video..but i think ill reboot and start fresh | 01:25 |
cliebow | still no /dev/video*..but i think ill reboot and start fresh | 01:26 |
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cliebow | Hey: i got /dev/video0 | 01:27 |
crimsun | excellent. | 01:28 |
crimsun | it should register such in dmesg, too. | 01:28 |
cliebow | modprobe will insert the module at boot when i reboot | 01:29 |
cliebow | ? | 01:29 |
cliebow | ok killing this sucker..bbl!!crimsun thanks for taking the time...owe you a cold one or two if there is another ubz..heh prob be in Guatemala or somewhere | 01:31 |
rtcm | BenC: just added the comment on the bug | 01:31 |
crimsun | cliebow: it should, yes. | 01:32 |
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cliebow | crimsun: i did get gqcam to start..i got a bright green square..canorama still refuses torecognize the dev/video0..but i got a start! | 01:46 |
crimsun | cliebow: might need to check the permissions on /dev/video0 then. | 01:47 |
cliebow | k | 01:47 |
cliebow | 660 | 01:47 |
crimsun | user:group ? | 01:47 |
crimsun | (root:video ?) | 01:48 |
cliebow | yes root:video | 01:48 |
crimsun | hmm, that should be fine then. | 01:48 |
cliebow | i got a fuzzt image in gnomemeeting so i am on a rll | 01:54 |
crimsun | :) | 01:58 |
crimsun | unfortunately I'm not very much assistance beyond this | 01:58 |
cliebow | no so fuzzy | 01:58 |
cliebow | you did a hell of a job..most pleased to meet you.. | 01:59 |
crimsun | ditto. | 02:00 |
cliebow | putting supper on the table...g night!! | 02:00 |
crimsun | 'night | 02:01 |
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cjb | Evenin'. | 04:06 |
cjb | airlied++ # "if your needs are better served by the flagship X product, XFree86, far be it from us to allow the door to hit you in the ass on the way out.." | 04:09 |
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fabbione | morning | 06:17 |
crimsun | morning | 06:19 |
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pappan | BenC: hi | 12:02 |
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CataEnry | hi all | 12:38 |
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fabbione | BenC: -> ubuntu-meeting | 03:02 |
BenC | doh! | 03:02 |
fabbione | :) | 03:02 |
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zul | heylo | 03:53 |
pappan | how do i get the ubuntu kernel source from my linux machine | 04:06 |
jbailey | pappan: We'll tell you if you promise to keep your client from cycling every 15 minutes all night again... =) | 04:13 |
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pappan | jbailey: really i am trying to fix it | 04:15 |
pappan | but not sure what is causing the problem | 04:16 |
jbailey | pappan: Well, alright then. With all Ubuntu apps, apt-get source will give you the source to what made the pacakge, and apt-get build-dep will install all the dependancies you need to build it. | 04:16 |
jbailey | pappan: If you install 'devscripts', then you can just go into the directory, twiddle it a bit and then type "debuild" and have it build. | 04:17 |
jbailey | That's generically true for all Ubuntu and Debian packages. | 04:17 |
jbailey | pappan: Your firewall it probably causing your connection to timeout after 15m of inactivity. | 04:17 |
jbailey | You might be able ot set your IRC client or something to do keepalives. | 04:17 |
pappan | jbailey: ty | 04:19 |
pappan | i will try to fix it | 04:19 |
pappan | bye catch you all later | 04:20 |
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zul | how ironic... | 04:49 |
zul | jbailey: heh...last night i was playing soccer and i was howling in pain | 04:51 |
jbailey | zul: Still upset over losing the hockey game? | 04:53 |
zul | jbailey: no i got bagged with the soccer ball | 05:00 |
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BenC | ouch | 05:05 |
zul | yeah.. | 05:08 |
zul | i didnt feel like doing much after that | 05:08 |
zul | but i did score a goal off that rebound | 05:08 |
jbailey | *lol* | 05:11 |
BenC | zul: it's all about sacrifice :) | 05:14 |
jbailey | "I'd give my left nut to score a OUCH!" | 05:15 |
zul | BenC: my wife wasnt impressed we are trying to start a family and she was concerned for once ;0 | 05:16 |
jbailey | zul: Tell her you're just culling the weak ones. =) | 05:18 |
zul | lol | 05:28 |
BenC | zul: lol | 05:28 |
BenC | my wife doesn't get concerned anymore since we have 3 kids | 05:29 |
zul | at least im not pissing blood yet | 05:29 |
BenC | she says things like "I hope they get chopped off", which tends to scare me | 05:29 |
jbailey | BenC: vasectomies halt male pattern baldness. | 05:29 |
BenC | "Just leave the important part" | 05:29 |
BenC | jbailey: no shit??!?! | 05:29 |
jbailey | BenC: Yeah, lowers testosterone production usually enough to stop it. | 05:30 |
jbailey | It won't reverse it at all, though. | 05:30 |
BenC | hmm...need to look into that then | 05:30 |
zul | hair club for men works as well | 05:33 |
zul | my wife is suppose to have an appointment today to get her ovaries checked today as well.. fun fun i hear | 05:34 |
cjb` | How old were you both when you had your first kid, OOI? | 05:45 |
zul | cjb`: still working on number one | 05:47 |
cjb` | Ah. :) | 05:47 |
zul | im 30 btw | 05:53 |
cjb` | 'kay. | 05:57 |
cjb` | I'm 24, my wife's 26, and she wants lots of kids and thinks she needs to start soon. ;-) | 05:58 |
fabbione | cjb`: and she is right to start soon | 05:58 |
cjb` | Well, not that soon; it's obvious that I'm too young, and she's too still-in-grad-school. But I think she certainly wants to have started by the time she's 30. | 05:58 |
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cjb` | fabbione: You think so? | 05:58 |
fabbione | yes | 05:58 |
CataEnry | hi all :) | 05:59 |
cjb` | I guess I'm holding her back by being younger. Oh well. | 05:59 |
fabbione | cjb`: well the woman should have her first baby no later than 30 | 05:59 |
fabbione | that's what they suggest at least | 05:59 |
fabbione | specially if you plan to have a soccer team | 06:00 |
cjb` | Yes, I agree with that. | 06:00 |
cjb` | But I'd rather it be closer to 30 such that I'm at least on the other side of 25. :) | 06:00 |
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BenC | cjb: I was 24 when I had my first | 06:01 |
BenC | and I'm glad I wasn't any older | 06:02 |
BenC | you don't want to be 50 with a kid graduating :) | 06:02 |
BenC | of course, I'll be 49 when my youngest is graduating | 06:02 |
cjb` | Gosh. | 06:03 |
cjb` | I just turned 24. I wonder what has to happen before I feel vaguely ready to have kids. | 06:03 |
BenC | you have to balance the years before kids with the years after...you don't want to be so old you can't enjoy the time after your kids grow up | 06:04 |
cjb` | OOI, did you have a stable job/feel like you were able to be financially responsible for a kid yet? | 06:04 |
BenC | not really | 06:04 |
BenC | having a kid forced me into responsibility (mentally) | 06:04 |
cjb` | Ah. | 06:04 |
BenC | usually kids tend to make you ready, rather then you being ready for kids :) | 06:05 |
cjb` | *nod* Okay. Thanks! | 06:06 |
jbailey | fabbione: There's no real reason to make sure you're before 30. You'll have a lower chance of getting past the first three months, but not dramatically. | 06:07 |
BenC | it's a personal decision everyone has to make for themsevles | 06:07 |
BenC | no time is right for everybody | 06:07 |
fabbione | jbailey: that's not the only reason | 06:07 |
cjb` | It looks like I have another two years or so, unless a kid comes along unplanned, 'cause we're waiting for my wife to finish grad school. But it sounds like I'd be weird for feeling like it's a "good" time to have kids and that I was ready for the responsibility, which is reassuring. :) | 06:07 |
jbailey | fabbione: Health wise, doctors here say it doesn't really matter now. I can't remember what the numbers are, but a large percentage of women in N. America now have their first child after 30. | 06:08 |
jbailey | cjb`: From what I've heard, 9 months is a good amout of warm up time to psych yourself up for it. =) | 06:08 |
fabbione | jbailey: the thing that the doc told us is that the woman body reacts better in recovering after the prgnacy | 06:08 |
jbailey | Well, somewhere between 6 and 8 depending on when you figure it out. =) | 06:08 |
cjb` | jbailey: That's fine if you only want to have one. If you're aiming for four, starting at 30 means you're getting towards the end of your fertility after a few. | 06:09 |
BenC | cjb: yeah, when my wife and I decided to have our first, I was thought "great, more reason to have sex", and didn't really think through the consequences, but I don't regret it :) | 06:09 |
cjb` | Hah. | 06:09 |
fabbione | ahah | 06:09 |
jbailey | fabbione: Right. You want to be generally good health to recover well. | 06:09 |
BenC | actually I thought, "hell yeah, no birth control, and I don't have to pull out" | 06:09 |
fabbione | jbailey: exactly.. | 06:09 |
cjb` | BenC: How many are you planning on? | 06:09 |
jbailey | *four*? | 06:09 |
cjb` | ! | 06:09 |
BenC | 3 is our limit, which makes us done | 06:10 |
jbailey | I think if we have two kids, I'm heading for the doctors office. =) | 06:10 |
cjb` | *sigh* My wife grew up with three siblings, and thinks it was great and her kids should have so many siblings too. | 06:10 |
BenC | grandparents want us to try for a fourth to see if we can get a girl, but they'll have to look elsewhere | 06:10 |
BenC | I only had one brother (twin) | 06:10 |
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BenC | my dad has a single sister, and my mom was with 3 siblings (same with my wife) | 06:11 |
jbailey | I have one sister, 5 yrs older. | 06:11 |
BenC | so single kid was out of the question | 06:11 |
cjb` | Yeah, one brother for me too. He's six years older, we aren't so close. | 06:11 |
BenC | later fabio | 06:11 |
BenC | my brohter and I weren't so close either, even being twins | 06:12 |
cjb` | So I can see her point about having siblings closer to your age around, at least. | 06:12 |
cjb` | Interesting. I don't think I've ever known any twins. | 06:12 |
BenC | we had different friends, and did nothing but argue :) | 06:12 |
BenC | even now he's a bastard and I don't really talk to him often except around holidays | 06:13 |
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cjb` | Heh. | 06:13 |
cjb` | Is he a programmer too? | 06:13 |
BenC | somewhat, he's more into online presence and marketing | 06:13 |
BenC | he's the manager type I always scoff :) | 06:14 |
cjb` | :) | 06:14 |
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zul | BenC: ditto...everything but the twin part | 06:40 |
cjb` | I like my brother, we're just very different. (For example, I'm married at 24, and he's never with the same girlfriend for too long at 29. :) | 06:41 |
zul | my brother is evil | 06:42 |
cjb` | Wow, evil's a pretty strong word. Is he a spammer? :) | 06:43 |
zul | no just general evilness | 06:47 |
zul | *sigh* i have to go to the hospital later.. | 07:06 |
cjb` | Weird. Trying to use nvidia under LRM under 2.6.15-9 gives "libc_wrapper error: passed invalid FILE handle to xf86fprintf" when I start X. | 07:15 |
BenC | does it not work, or just an error? | 07:30 |
cjb` | That's a fatal error, X dies. | 07:42 |
cjb` | It could be the userspace glx stuff, though, I'm not saying it's the kernel. Weird that the error doesn't show up on Google. | 07:43 |
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mkrufky | BenC: I saw you pulled from Linus' tree two hours ago.... you JUST missed a alsa/oss collision bugfix patch for saa7134 (hybrid v4l/dvb) .... | 08:24 |
mkrufky | you can either pull it next time, or pull from either Mauro's tree Linus' tree again | 08:24 |
BenC | I'll be pulling again | 08:24 |
mkrufky | ok cool... thanx | 08:24 |
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zul | hey guys | 09:49 |
BenC | yo zul | 10:04 |
BenC | "There is only zul" | 10:04 |
zul | except the french guy who takes my nick when im not here | 10:04 |
zul | bastards.. | 10:05 |
AcidPils | hi | 10:05 |
AcidPils | BenC: i found a little typo in the readme for the acx module | 10:05 |
BenC | major "wrong command" typo, or minor "speling" typo? | 10:06 |
AcidPils | wrong command | 10:06 |
AcidPils | fw_version | 10:06 |
BenC | ah, do a bug report for me please | 10:06 |
AcidPils | k | 10:06 |
BenC | on linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 | 10:07 |
BenC | infinity probably wont be back till next year, so I don't want to forget about it | 10:07 |
BenC | actually, just linux-restricted-modules is fine | 10:07 |
AcidPils | hmm.. i had a soloution, but i cant remember the right command :o | 10:08 |
AcidPils | BenC: 21423 | 10:11 |
BenC | firmware_ver | 10:15 |
BenC | modinfo acx will show you | 10:16 |
AcidPils | ah, nice command, didn't know that till now | 10:16 |
AcidPils | *bugreport update* | 10:17 |
BenC | already did it :) | 10:18 |
AcidPils | me too ;) | 10:18 |
AcidPils | *undo* | 10:18 |
BenC | need to test latest build | 10:19 |
AcidPils | if he will come back? | 10:32 |
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zul | hey lamont__ | 10:35 |
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TheMuso | Merry Christmas to you. Hope you have an enjoyable Christmas where ever | 10:58 |
TheMuso | you are. | 10:58 |
AcidPils | christmas... hmmm... need some gifts | 11:00 |
lamont__ | howdy zul | 11:00 |
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