=== cliebow [n=cliebow@70-33-151-214.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:10] hi: ogra suggested i ask here..using 2.6.12-10-386 no /dev/video* devices are created..lsusb shows a quickcam..quickcam and videodev are loaded modules..i made my own /dev/video* and a simlink to /dev/video0..but still get no such device..you guys have a ny suggestions? [12:16] which device? [12:16] it is a connectix corp quickcam. [12:17] i compiled the module for it [12:17] im one of the ltsp guys [12:17] lsusb -v -> pastebin, please [12:17] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org [12:19] i p-asted..dont see it here.6005 [12:20] 0478:0001, hmm. [12:20] anyway you could provide -v output? [12:21] have prob with that..says cant get hub description [12:22] ohh [12:23] ohh [12:23] that help? [12:23] 6006 [12:24] yep, thanks, sec. [12:28] I'm pretty sure you need a the vc-specific driver [12:28] s/a the/the/ [12:29] i see..il google for that andpress on then..thanks a heap [12:32] cliebow: out of curiosity, what does dmesg say regarding the quickcam? [12:32] sugg on easiest cam to work with? === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:33] take a sec [12:33] usbcore:registered new driver quickcam [12:35] id happily buy one i knew would more or less jusgt work [12:36] no other clues [12:37] hmm, so no other info regarding quickcam in dmesg? [12:37] i could nt see anything else..still poikng [12:38] sbalneaves has used the same durn thing in ubuntu...dont get it..i donr know what builds /dev/video* [12:39] the quickcam kernel module will cause /dev/video* to be enumerated [12:40] maybe i screwed up the compile..thougt all went well.. [12:41] no, it's not the compile. It's either a completely different model with an obscure vendor/product id, or something else [12:42] ill find something else if this still barfs..thanks for trying [12:48] it looks like you'll need to pull from cvs head (usb-quickcam-vc) [12:48] ahh ha [12:49] ahh from cvs [12:51] then apply a patch (http://projects.troy.rollo.name/quickcam-vc/diffs-cvs-20050426.patch) against the cvs head checkout [12:51] then compile that driver against linux-headers-$(uname -r) [12:52] a patch to the cvs head source then === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:52] pull it from source forge then? [12:52] yep [12:56] got the patch..unsure how to pull the source code [12:56] cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/usb-quickcam-vc login && cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/usb-quickcam-vc co -P qcamvc [12:57] the diff is against the qcamvc/linux_2.6 sourc [12:57] +e [01:00] you'll also need to hack qcamvc.c a bit for the remap_page_range() obsoletion [01:02] wow...ill give er a try..got to put the roast in.. [01:02] let you know if i get anywhere..8) === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-078-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:06] I'll walk you through it [01:06] I've compiled it, but I can't test it because I lack the hardware [01:09] cliebow: here's a diff you can apply against a fresh checkout: http://sh.nu/~crimsun/qcamvc.patched.diff === rtcm [n=jman@81.84.151.37] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:10] very good!! [01:10] cliebow: the diff on my Web site combines the colourspace patches and the compilation diff; it compiles with gcc-3.4 and linux-headers-$(uname -r) on Breezy [01:11] wow.. [01:11] ill have tocheck that $CC=gcc-3.4 [01:12] you'll need to run ''make modules'' from qcamvc/linux_2.6 [01:12] probably want to ''make install'' as well; the module to load is qcamvc_usb [01:13] alright..the patch in same directory as qcamvc.c i suppose [01:13] if you pass -d to patch, sure [01:13] otherwise you need to be in qcamvc/ [01:15] hopefully that will get you going with it [01:15] patch -p0 qcmvc.patched.diff [01:15] patch -p0 qcamvc.patched.diff [01:15] patch -p1 < qcamvc.patched.diff [01:16] patch -p1 whoops [01:16] patched [01:16] 8~) [01:16] yep, now just export CC=gcc-3.4 && make modules [01:17] wow [01:18] and pop the .o files somewhere? [01:19] ''sudo make install'' [01:20] then you'll probably want to ''sudo depmod -e'' [01:20] then modprobe? [01:20] ''sudo modprobe qcamvc_usb'' [01:21] that went asd well === rtcm [n=jman@81.84.151.37] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:21] now check if you have /dev/video* [01:21] BenC: just installed 2.6.15-9-385 and my sis performance problem continues [01:21] *386 [01:23] hmm.doesnt look good..maybe rmmod all the crap i put in and start fromscratch [01:23] cliebow: yeah, modprobe -r all those (including qcamvc*) [01:25] still no /dev/video..but i think ill reboot and start fresh [01:26] still no /dev/video*..but i think ill reboot and start fresh === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:27] Hey: i got /dev/video0 [01:28] excellent. [01:28] it should register such in dmesg, too. [01:29] modprobe will insert the module at boot when i reboot [01:29] ? [01:31] ok killing this sucker..bbl!!crimsun thanks for taking the time...owe you a cold one or two if there is another ubz..heh prob be in Guatemala or somewhere [01:31] BenC: just added the comment on the bug [01:32] cliebow: it should, yes. === cliebow [n=cliebow@70-33-151-214.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:46] crimsun: i did get gqcam to start..i got a bright green square..canorama still refuses torecognize the dev/video0..but i got a start! [01:47] cliebow: might need to check the permissions on /dev/video0 then. [01:47] k [01:47] 660 [01:47] user:group ? [01:48] (root:video ?) [01:48] yes root:video [01:48] hmm, that should be fine then. [01:54] i got a fuzzt image in gnomemeeting so i am on a rll [01:58] :) [01:58] unfortunately I'm not very much assistance beyond this [01:58] no so fuzzy [01:59] you did a hell of a job..most pleased to meet you.. [02:00] ditto. [02:00] putting supper on the table...g night!! [02:01] 'night === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:06] Evenin'. [04:09] airlied++ # "if your needs are better served by the flagship X product, XFree86, far be it from us to allow the door to hit you in the ass on the way out.." === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:17] morning [06:19] morning === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-9.14 uploaded (The "Adam Adulterated the Awesome Build Architecture" release) === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Wed Dec 21 14:58:27 2005 === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host209-36.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [n=fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:02] BenC: hi === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host209-36.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:38] hi all === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-148-187.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CataEnry is away: I'm busy === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host209-36.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:02] BenC: -> ubuntu-meeting [03:02] doh! [03:02] :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === slushpupie [i=jay@slushpupie.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:53] heylo [04:06] how do i get the ubuntu kernel source from my linux machine [04:13] pappan: We'll tell you if you promise to keep your client from cycling every 15 minutes all night again... =) === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:15] jbailey: really i am trying to fix it [04:16] but not sure what is causing the problem [04:16] pappan: Well, alright then. With all Ubuntu apps, apt-get source will give you the source to what made the pacakge, and apt-get build-dep will install all the dependancies you need to build it. [04:17] pappan: If you install 'devscripts', then you can just go into the directory, twiddle it a bit and then type "debuild" and have it build. [04:17] That's generically true for all Ubuntu and Debian packages. [04:17] pappan: Your firewall it probably causing your connection to timeout after 15m of inactivity. [04:17] You might be able ot set your IRC client or something to do keepalives. [04:19] jbailey: ty [04:19] i will try to fix it [04:20] bye catch you all later === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:49] how ironic... [04:51] jbailey: heh...last night i was playing soccer and i was howling in pain [04:53] zul: Still upset over losing the hockey game? [05:00] jbailey: no i got bagged with the soccer ball === slushpupie [i=jay@slushpupie.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:05] ouch [05:08] yeah.. [05:08] i didnt feel like doing much after that [05:08] but i did score a goal off that rebound [05:11] *lol* [05:14] zul: it's all about sacrifice :) [05:15] "I'd give my left nut to score a OUCH!" [05:16] BenC: my wife wasnt impressed we are trying to start a family and she was concerned for once ;0 [05:18] zul: Tell her you're just culling the weak ones. =) [05:28] lol [05:28] zul: lol [05:29] my wife doesn't get concerned anymore since we have 3 kids [05:29] at least im not pissing blood yet [05:29] she says things like "I hope they get chopped off", which tends to scare me [05:29] BenC: vasectomies halt male pattern baldness. [05:29] "Just leave the important part" [05:29] jbailey: no shit??!?! [05:30] BenC: Yeah, lowers testosterone production usually enough to stop it. [05:30] It won't reverse it at all, though. [05:30] hmm...need to look into that then [05:33] hair club for men works as well [05:34] my wife is suppose to have an appointment today to get her ovaries checked today as well.. fun fun i hear [05:45] How old were you both when you had your first kid, OOI? [05:47] cjb`: still working on number one [05:47] Ah. :) [05:53] im 30 btw [05:57] 'kay. [05:58] I'm 24, my wife's 26, and she wants lots of kids and thinks she needs to start soon. ;-) [05:58] cjb`: and she is right to start soon [05:58] Well, not that soon; it's obvious that I'm too young, and she's too still-in-grad-school. But I think she certainly wants to have started by the time she's 30. === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host209-36.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:58] fabbione: You think so? [05:58] yes [05:59] hi all :) [05:59] I guess I'm holding her back by being younger. Oh well. [05:59] cjb`: well the woman should have her first baby no later than 30 [05:59] that's what they suggest at least [06:00] specially if you plan to have a soccer team [06:00] Yes, I agree with that. [06:00] But I'd rather it be closer to 30 such that I'm at least on the other side of 25. :) === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:01] cjb: I was 24 when I had my first [06:02] and I'm glad I wasn't any older [06:02] you don't want to be 50 with a kid graduating :) [06:02] of course, I'll be 49 when my youngest is graduating [06:03] Gosh. [06:03] I just turned 24. I wonder what has to happen before I feel vaguely ready to have kids. [06:04] you have to balance the years before kids with the years after...you don't want to be so old you can't enjoy the time after your kids grow up [06:04] OOI, did you have a stable job/feel like you were able to be financially responsible for a kid yet? [06:04] not really [06:04] having a kid forced me into responsibility (mentally) [06:04] Ah. [06:05] usually kids tend to make you ready, rather then you being ready for kids :) [06:06] *nod* Okay. Thanks! [06:07] fabbione: There's no real reason to make sure you're before 30. You'll have a lower chance of getting past the first three months, but not dramatically. [06:07] it's a personal decision everyone has to make for themsevles [06:07] no time is right for everybody [06:07] jbailey: that's not the only reason [06:07] It looks like I have another two years or so, unless a kid comes along unplanned, 'cause we're waiting for my wife to finish grad school. But it sounds like I'd be weird for feeling like it's a "good" time to have kids and that I was ready for the responsibility, which is reassuring. :) [06:08] fabbione: Health wise, doctors here say it doesn't really matter now. I can't remember what the numbers are, but a large percentage of women in N. America now have their first child after 30. [06:08] cjb`: From what I've heard, 9 months is a good amout of warm up time to psych yourself up for it. =) [06:08] jbailey: the thing that the doc told us is that the woman body reacts better in recovering after the prgnacy [06:08] Well, somewhere between 6 and 8 depending on when you figure it out. =) [06:09] jbailey: That's fine if you only want to have one. If you're aiming for four, starting at 30 means you're getting towards the end of your fertility after a few. [06:09] cjb: yeah, when my wife and I decided to have our first, I was thought "great, more reason to have sex", and didn't really think through the consequences, but I don't regret it :) [06:09] Hah. [06:09] ahah [06:09] fabbione: Right. You want to be generally good health to recover well. [06:09] actually I thought, "hell yeah, no birth control, and I don't have to pull out" [06:09] jbailey: exactly.. [06:09] BenC: How many are you planning on? [06:09] *four*? [06:09] ! [06:10] 3 is our limit, which makes us done [06:10] I think if we have two kids, I'm heading for the doctors office. =) [06:10] *sigh* My wife grew up with three siblings, and thinks it was great and her kids should have so many siblings too. [06:10] grandparents want us to try for a fourth to see if we can get a girl, but they'll have to look elsewhere [06:10] I only had one brother (twin) === fabbione heads out for dinner [06:11] my dad has a single sister, and my mom was with 3 siblings (same with my wife) [06:11] I have one sister, 5 yrs older. [06:11] so single kid was out of the question [06:11] Yeah, one brother for me too. He's six years older, we aren't so close. [06:11] later fabio [06:12] my brohter and I weren't so close either, even being twins [06:12] So I can see her point about having siblings closer to your age around, at least. [06:12] Interesting. I don't think I've ever known any twins. [06:12] we had different friends, and did nothing but argue :) [06:13] even now he's a bastard and I don't really talk to him often except around holidays === BenC should be nicer, its christmas [06:13] Heh. [06:13] Is he a programmer too? [06:13] somewhat, he's more into online presence and marketing [06:14] he's the manager type I always scoff :) [06:14] :) === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:40] BenC: ditto...everything but the twin part [06:41] I like my brother, we're just very different. (For example, I'm married at 24, and he's never with the same girlfriend for too long at 29. :) [06:42] my brother is evil [06:43] Wow, evil's a pretty strong word. Is he a spammer? :) [06:47] no just general evilness [07:06] *sigh* i have to go to the hospital later.. [07:15] Weird. Trying to use nvidia under LRM under 2.6.15-9 gives "libc_wrapper error: passed invalid FILE handle to xf86fprintf" when I start X. [07:30] does it not work, or just an error? [07:42] That's a fatal error, X dies. [07:43] It could be the userspace glx stuff, though, I'm not saying it's the kernel. Weird that the error doesn't show up on Google. === mkrufky [n=mk@68.160.103.77] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:24] BenC: I saw you pulled from Linus' tree two hours ago.... you JUST missed a alsa/oss collision bugfix patch for saa7134 (hybrid v4l/dvb) .... [08:24] you can either pull it next time, or pull from either Mauro's tree Linus' tree again [08:24] I'll be pulling again [08:24] ok cool... thanx === slushpupie [i=jay@slushpupie.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-70-16-64-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:49] hey guys [10:04] yo zul [10:04] "There is only zul" [10:04] except the french guy who takes my nick when im not here [10:05] bastards.. [10:05] hi [10:05] BenC: i found a little typo in the readme for the acx module [10:06] major "wrong command" typo, or minor "speling" typo? [10:06] wrong command [10:06] fw_version [10:06] ah, do a bug report for me please [10:06] k [10:07] on linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 [10:07] infinity probably wont be back till next year, so I don't want to forget about it [10:07] actually, just linux-restricted-modules is fine [10:08] hmm.. i had a soloution, but i cant remember the right command :o [10:11] BenC: 21423 [10:15] firmware_ver [10:16] modinfo acx will show you [10:16] ah, nice command, didn't know that till now [10:17] *bugreport update* [10:18] already did it :) [10:18] me too ;) [10:18] *undo* [10:19] need to test latest build [10:32] if he will come back? === lamont__ [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:35] hey lamont__ === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:58] Merry Christmas to you. Hope you have an enjoyable Christmas where ever [10:58] you are. [11:00] christmas... hmmm... need some gifts [11:00] howdy zul