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Eleafmcjerry, no i don't believe so12:00
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mcphailEleaf: have you checked your RAM?12:00
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Eleafmcphail, it should be fine..12:00
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Eleafmcjerry, I think it's the video card12:00
JFlashis there some optional icon in gnome that shows me if network data is coming in and out?  just like the one you have in windows , with the 2 blinking monitors?12:01
mcphailEleaf: should, or is?12:01
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Eleafmcjerry, I have a lot of segmentation faults whenever I run the card in 16 bit mode (direct 3d rendering)12:01
Eleafmcphail, !!!12:01
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JFlashmy connection is pretty unstable so i sometime dont have  a clue if data is comming in at all or not12:01
Eleafit keeps saying mcjerry lol12:01
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sunshine82procrasinator im officall doin somethin wron i cant get the folder to move how do i typr it12:01
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mcphailJFlash: there is a gnome panel applet12:02
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EleafI'm pretty sure it only happens in blender too12:02
Eleaflol12:02
mcphailEleaf: sounds like trouble12:02
Eleafwhy?12:02
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QRZEleaf:  It might be worth testing your memory.  If you have bad memory, that can cause it.  Also, try reseating your memory and all cards, peripheral connectors, etc.  Hard lockups are often hardware related.12:02
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Eleafok12:02
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Decarabiahas s.b. an idear how i can make my php read my cookies ?12:03
EleafQRZ, the lockups happen rare enough that I don't really have to worry about it...  Only very rarely and they always happen when I'm not doing anything important lol12:03
funkyHathow can I set up12:03
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sunshine82procrasinator how do i do that path thin12:03
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funkyHatoops, didn't mean to press enter haha12:03
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funkyHathow can I set up passwordless ssh for more than one remote host (actually more than one username on the same remote host)12:03
QRZEleaf:  Yeah but I bet it's enough of a pain in the ass that you'd like to get to the bottom of it, huh!12:04
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crimsunfunkyHat: ssh-agent+keychain12:04
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QRZEleaf:  Are you overclocking?12:04
EleafQRZ =p12:04
EleafQRZ not at the moment, although i sometimes do12:04
EleafI'm getting a new motherboard, processor, video card etc anyways soon.  But this is a great machine =p12:05
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QRZEleaf:  As I'm sure you're aware, overclocking is somewhat of an art (actually more of a balancing act)!12:05
Decarabiahas s.b. an idear how i can make php read my cookies ?12:05
The_Isle_of_Markhey all, quick question how do I enable the desktop icons?12:05
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sunshine82procrasinator do i use mv12:05
EleafQRZ, yeee, I can't overclock very far because my motherboard can only change the fsb12:06
Eleafso I can only gain like 80 mhz QRZ!12:06
QRZEleaf:  Anyway, good luck with it.  I'd run some RAM tests though.12:06
EleafI have a 900 mhz processor, it's fun12:06
ssstormyhmm... I'm using checkinstall, but php5 modifies the configuration file of apache, so it won't let me install php5 as a .deb... " trying to overwrite `/usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf', which is also in package apache212:06
ssstormy"12:06
QRZEleaf:  Probably not worth overclocking then :-)12:06
_jasonThe_Isle_of_Mark, system tools -> gconf editor: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop12:06
EleafQRZ, ok, should i use the memtest kernel at boot?12:06
The_Isle_of_Mark_jason, thanks :)12:06
ssstormyhow would I force the install?12:07
EleafQRZ, I do notice some extra performance though!12:07
sobersabretrappist: thanks!12:07
funkyHatcrimsun, I'm not using ssh-agent at the moment (with passwordless ssh only to one remote account)12:07
MrProper_does anyone know of a similar app to amarok for gnome?12:07
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jon_does anyone know how I can take a screenshot using XFCE?12:07
mcphailssstormy: i'm sure there are force options to dpkg. the man page will tell you12:07
QRZEleaf:  That or memtest86  --> http://www.memtest86.com/12:08
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ssstormymcphail, I've tried following the man stuff, but I can't figure it out12:08
ssstormyit seems simiple enough12:08
bimberiThe_Isle_of_Mark: Configuration Editor -> /apps/nautilus/desltop12:08
sethkfunkyHat, I do it with an authorized_hosts file in the .ssh directory12:08
sethkfunkyHat, the file is a bit misnamed, it actually specifies user@host combinations12:08
ssstormyand I get the force options in fine, but no matter which part I read I can't figure out where the regular dpkg package declarations go12:08
eegore_I just installed ubuntu 64 on my system, is there a menu item that installs the NVidia driver somewhere?12:09
Decarabiadoes somebody know how to handle $_COOKIES ?12:09
bimberifunkyHat: i use ssh-copy-id (but hadn't heard of ssh-agent)12:09
phrizermm cookies.12:09
mcphailssstormy: dpkg -i --force-all foo.deb?12:09
funkyHatbimberi or sethk, can you talk me through adding another host to my authorised_hosts please? :)12:10
Decarabiaso phrizer do you know some about it ?12:10
mcphailDecarabia: yes, but this is the wrong channel12:10
sethkfunkyHat, you just add a line to the file12:10
Decarabiamcphail so which one is the right ?12:10
sethkfunkyHat, you need to have the key, of course12:10
ssstormymcphail, how frustrating... I was experimenting for 30min last night12:10
jon_anyone know how to take a screenshot using xfce?12:10
ssstormytrying to figure it out12:10
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funkyHatsethk, ok, so I generate the key on the remote host, and then copy it across and put it in the local authourised_hosts?12:11
sethkfunkyHat, right.12:11
bimberifunkyHat: on the machine i want to connect from, i issue "ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@host_i_want_to_connect_to"12:11
Decarabiadoes somebody know how to handle $_COOKIES ?12:12
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mcphailDecarabia: use $_COOKIE['variablename'] 12:12
dfgasjust wondering, what all extra does the dvd have on it?12:12
Decarabiamcphail well i know12:12
mcphailDecarabia: but this is not on /topic12:12
funkyHatbimberi, is dsa better than rsa?12:12
dfgasof is there a list somewhere?12:12
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Decarabiamcphail but if a make a echo it aint workin12:13
Decarabiamcphail so where should i go with this question ?12:13
funkyHat:)12:13
bimberifunkyHat: that's my impression, but i wouldn't be able to link you to anything authoritative :)12:13
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funkyHatbimberi, heh, ok then :)12:13
jvaihey uall, what is this "ssh-********" file i see in the tmp folder? everytyme i take my box to work, & connect evolution/printr, @ the end of day this file is there, in the tmp foldr12:13
norkiwhy doesn't apps like aMSN have antialiased fonts ?12:14
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mcphailDecarabia: ##php12:14
ispikedhow do I figure out what device my flashdrive is?12:14
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Decarabiamcphail thx12:14
Comrade_Vladimirwhy does fire fox some times just spontaniously flick off once and a while?12:14
sethkeither look on the desktop if it is automounted (or type mount with no arguments), or, if it isn't, do dmesg12:14
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dfgasispiked: usually something like sda12:14
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sethkispiked, should show in the last two or three lines of dmesg12:14
eegore_nick eegore6412:15
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JaZy84okay guys i've followed the wiki on ubuntu for adding ibm java but when enever i start an browser (firefox/ephaniy) the thing crashes when trying to load the java any ideas12:15
jvaii hope i'm not getting ssh'd into this box12:15
bimberifunkyHat: btw, my method works with the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file for user@host_i_want_to_connect_to12:15
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mcphailnorki: i don't know that app, but some apps use old widget sets (such as GTK1) which don't have antialiasing12:16
meuserj|workjvai, that is just a file that the ssh-agent creates, ssh-agent is started by default in gnome12:16
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JaZy84java version "1.5.0"12:16
JaZy84Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build pxi32dev-20051104)12:16
JaZy84IBM J9 VM (build 2.3, J2RE 1.5.0 IBM J9 2.3 Linux x86-32 j9vmxi3223-20051103 (JIT enabled)12:16
cyphaseis there a separate program that does what the Show Desktop Button does?12:16
JaZy84on java -version12:16
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ssstormymcphail, what about when the package I'm building replaces several interlocking older packages?12:17
jvai*whew* ok thnx menserj12:17
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ssstormylike mysql; there is a -client  , -server , and -common12:17
ssstormypackage12:17
mcphailjvai: cat /var/log/auth.log | grep ssh will show you any access12:17
_jasonJaZy84, where is the wiki with ibm java?12:17
ispikednow to figure out what filetype...12:17
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sobersabreguys.. skype q.12:17
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sobersabrethe windows skype allows ring to use different device than call.12:18
sobersabreI don't see this enabled ... is there a way to enable it on linux skype ?12:18
JaZy84https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IBMJava?highlight=%28java%2912:18
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_jasonJaZy84, thanks12:18
Comrade_Vladimirwhy does fire fox some times just spontaniously flick off once and a while?12:18
mcphailssstormy: does the mysql source package automatically create a client and a server?12:19
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_jasonJaZy84, did you remove any other java you had installed as a plugin for firefox?12:19
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JaZy84i did remove the other libjava..so  that was there12:19
JaZy84but other then that now12:19
cyphaseis there a separate program that does what the Show Desktop Button does?12:19
JaZy84no*12:19
ssstormymcphail, yeah it provides all of it12:19
mcphailsobersabre: what do you mean ring/call12:20
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ispikedhow can I figure out what type of filesystem something is mounted as?12:20
Grogoreohi12:20
mcphailssstormy: does the makefile provide different install targets?12:20
funkyHatbimberi, sethk, cheers, it works great :)12:20
sethkfunkyHat, great12:20
jvaimcphail, wouldnt system log show it too?12:20
JaZy84that ibm 1.5 java i got dosn' have libjavaplugin_ojigcc3.so that file as said on wiki it does have libjavaplugin_oji.so12:20
ssstormymcphail, you mean like make server or make client?12:20
sethkfunkyHat, saves a lot of typing, plus you can now disable passwords and protect yourself from a password attack12:21
JaZy84and libjavaplugin_ojigtk2.so12:21
sobersabremcphail: the rrrring rrrring rrrring can go into one sound card, and the talk, the callers voice into another on windows.12:21
mcphailjvai: i don't think so, but i'm not sure12:21
sorush20anyone here know about the website that allowes you to downlaod 7000 fonts in one folder compressed?12:21
GrogoreoI'm running windows atm because I can't get to my linux partiton from Windows taking over the MBR, how can I get back grub easily? I can mount my linux drive from windows, so is there an easy way?12:21
Comrade_Vladimircmon why does fire fox some times just spontaniously flick off once and a while? answer me!12:21
mcphailssstormy: yes12:21
sobersabrethere is such option in tools->options, but it is greyed out.12:21
_jasonJaZy84, you just made one symlink in your plugins folder though right?12:21
bimberifunkyHat: great! :)12:21
sobersabremcphail: got me ?12:21
ssstormymcphail, good idea.  I'm not sure right now, but I'll take a look12:21
JaZy84yes12:21
sethkComrade_Vladimir, see if the virtual frame buffer device is enabled in xorg.conf12:22
polpakComrade_Vladimir, I believe the reason no one is answering your question is due to the fact that no one else has any experience with that issue12:22
mcphailsobersabre: check out skype_dsp_hijacker. I think that seveas has put a .deb on his repo12:22
Comrade_Vladimirsethk how?!12:22
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sethkComrade_Vladimir, edit the file, read it.12:22
Comrade_Vladimirok what file12:22
bimberiGrogoreo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:22
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sethkComrade_Vladimi1, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:23
Comrade_Vladimi1ill use gaim now12:23
Grogoreobimberi: thanks12:23
JaZy84yeah only one sym link and it's the libjavaplugin_oji.so12:23
kemik!java12:23
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:23
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flodineis there a xinitrc file for ubuntu12:23
_jasonJaZy84, try to rename it to libjavaplugin_ojigcc3.so i guess12:23
bimberiGrogoreo: np :)12:23
Comrade_Vladimi1sethk ok im not as linux smart as u seem to think i am elaborate for me plz...12:24
JaZy84alright12:24
sethkComrade_Vladimi1, which editor do you like to use?12:24
bimberiflodine: on my box "locate xinitrc" gives /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc12:24
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Comrade_Vladimi1im still here12:25
hasse!java12:25
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:25
mcphailsobersabre: http://195.38.3.142:6502/skype/12:25
Comrade_Vladimi1say it again12:25
jvaii've been googling gnomemeeting/gaim compatability for the longest today12:25
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flodinebimberi can i edit it to start a program on boot12:26
Comrade_Vladimi1 sethk i dunno which i use just give it im one12:26
jvaii cant accept the girl's invite to yahoo webcam12:26
sobersabremcphail: thanks, I am currently using this one. but this is not what I was talking about12:27
EleafI'm thinking of upgrading to a Sempron 64, will it not run programs compiled on a 32 bit machine? =P12:27
Eleaf^^12:27
bimberiflodine: on boot?  you could add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh - i guess xinitrc is for when X starts up12:27
hasse!javadebs12:27
ubotusomebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb12:27
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sobersabreEleaf: if you setup 32 environment.12:27
apache_amI need some help12:27
sobersabrei mean 32 bit12:27
sethkComrade_Vladimi1, I suppose nano is the easiest.  so in a terminal window, first, back up the file you are about to edit.  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~12:27
mcphailsobersabre: sorry, then i've misunderstood12:27
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Comrade_Vladimi1cd u maen12:27
Eleafsobersabre, what do you mean?12:27
sobersabremcphail: 1 card for the rrrrrrrrrring.12:27
sethkComrade_Vladimi1, then   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:27
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apache_amI need a driver SIS 661FX12:27
sethkComrade_Vladimi1, just read the file, don't save it or anything, yet12:27
the_mr_bong_showmay i ask a question about the cmos battery12:28
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sobersabreanother card for the microphone and the call speakers. ( the conversation. )12:28
zarathazare there any good channels with people in any of the other servers on xchat12:28
Comrade_Vladimi1can we take this to a diff channel sethk?12:28
sobersabreok, thanks all.. I think this option is disabled by default12:28
mcphailsobersabre: the skype sound architecture is very primitive12:28
definity1where can i download more applets for the tool bar?????????12:28
flodinebimberi that bootmisc looks crazy where do i put it top or bottom12:29
sobersabremcphail: the skype has bad linux support. it has a normal sound architecture: NONE. it relies on OSS technology.12:29
bimberiflodine: at the bottom12:29
sobersabreand  on the underlying system.12:30
bimberiflodine: but above ": exit 0" :)12:30
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sobersabreand it is buggy.12:30
the_mr_bong_showwill the pc run if i take the cmos battery out12:30
flodinebimberi i just want to add xset fp to start my font12:30
funkyHatsobersabre, unfortunately Gizmo is _worse_12:30
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sobersabreI know no Gizmos... I've heard of gremlins though...12:31
apache_amSIS661fx where can i found a driver ????12:31
Comrade_Vladimi1sethk?12:31
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sobersabreok... bye all12:31
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apache_ambye12:32
apache_amSIS661fx where can i found a driver ????12:32
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bimberiflodine: in ~/.bashrc there is a section that begins with a comment like "# If this is an xterm ...", you could try adding your xset command in there12:34
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Comrade_Vladimi1why did u stop in the middle of the conversation sethk?12:34
apache_amSIS661fx where can i found a driver ????12:34
apache_amPlease ...12:34
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flodinebimberi aterm12:35
JackPalmierybeen reading up on gnome vs. kde12:35
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Viper550Hello!12:35
Comrade_Vladimi1hi!12:35
JackPalmieryit seems people point out the lack of integration and standards w/ gnome12:35
JackPalmierybut few complaints about kde12:35
Viper550Yeah, maybe that's why Linux Torvalds recomends it now!12:35
bimberiflodine: what does "echo $TERM" output when you're in your terminal?12:35
apache_amSIS661fx where can i found a driver ????12:35
JackPalmierywhat advantage does gnome have? can't find much about that12:35
funkyHatJackPalmiery, if you're used to windows, then KDE will be nice and familiar (that's actually the same thing that put me off)12:36
funkyHatJackPalmiery, speed...12:36
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JackPalmieryspeed is good.. kde needs more power huh12:36
Comrade_Vladimi1linus torvalds ass12:37
funkyHatJackPalmiery, Also not all would say that KDE's integration is a good thing12:37
funkyHatI personally don't like the fact that Konqueror is EVERYTHING at all12:37
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apokryphosis it the blue? I think so :)12:37
JackPalmieryit sounds like the integration is optional.. no need to use it12:37
JackPalmieryi find that curious too12:38
Viper550So, you think Dapper is coming slong nicely? Also, Konqueror is much better at file manager/web browser than IE!12:38
flodinebimberi not sure how do i find out12:38
JackPalmieryconsistency can be good in the right places12:38
apokryphosfunkyHat: it isn't *everything*, but that issue is being addressed, primarily in kde 412:38
funkyHatapokryphos, it's not that it looks like windows so much that it _feels_ like windows12:38
Foodcomanapokryphos: =)12:38
bimberiflodine: open a terminal and type   echo $TERM12:38
apokryphosfunkyHat: again, I have no idea where that comes from. Is it the blue?12:38
JackPalmierywhat is wrong about the feel12:38
Comrade_Vladimi1what does windows feel like fuzzy?12:38
JackPalmieryparticulars12:38
funkyHatapokryphos, I am aware of that ;) but it's more of the DE than IE is in windows!12:38
Comrade_Vladimi1glassy?12:38
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apokryphosoO12:39
funkyHatComrade_Vladimi1, glassy is look not feel12:39
flodinebimberi rxvt12:39
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Thorondorwhy do i keep getting errors like this when opening files in xpdf/xfig/etc? ``Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct''12:39
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apokryphosit must be the single panel by default, that's it!12:40
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JackPalmieryit looks like lots of vendors are pushing towards gnome12:40
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apokryphoslooks the opposite12:40
funkyHatI mean the way things work... I suppose it could be a lot to do with my over-eagerness to use the command line, which KDE at the moment is more discouraging of than gnome (I didn't say it is _very_ discouraging, just _more_)12:40
bimberiflodine: then that should be OK because the code in .bashrc says "case "$TERM" in xterm*|rxvt*)"12:40
Viper550But, that's what Kubuntu is for12:40
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JackPalmieryreally? who is making kde default?12:40
JaZy84!java12:40
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:40
apokryphosfunkyHat: any examples?12:40
JackPalmieryNovell kind of backtracked.. but not really.. KDE will be optional, rather than the default12:40
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techrushhi guys12:41
funkyHatapokryphos, No, that was an observation I only just made12:41
funkyHatabout myself12:41
JackPalmierysun appears in the gnome camp12:41
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apache_amWhos better? Gnome or KDE? i'm novice with linux12:41
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Thorondorgnome is easier12:41
flodinebimberiall i want is to set my font with xset for aterm on start12:41
apache_ami just use windows12:41
ThorondorKDE has more functions12:41
funkyHatThorondor, -offtopic ;)12:42
MaFiaBoYapache_am > XFCE :)12:42
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cmathesonflodine: you can set your fonts in ~/.Xdefaults12:42
JackPalmierymafiaboy - do you post on \.12:42
Hoxzernow now, guys12:42
bimberiflodine: i think this will work, there might be better ways but i don't know them sorry12:42
apache_amthe interface of KDE is like windows interface ? or similar ?12:43
JackPalmieryi think i've seen the name12:43
Hoxzerhow do I allow wine to use internet?12:43
MaFiaBoYhey12:43
apache_amWhat is XFCE ? mafiaBoy ?12:43
apokryphos!xfce12:43
ubotumethinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/12:43
MaFiaBoYwrong nick :p12:43
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flodinetheres got to be a way to set my .font folder on startup12:43
Viper550If you really want a Windows like interface, try FVWM 95 or IceWM12:43
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HymnToLifeapache_am > another display manager, like gnome or KDE12:43
JackPalmieryfrom a developer perspective does gnome offer anything KDE doesn't?12:44
HymnToLifebut I suggest to try them all and see the one you like most12:44
apache_amok12:44
Viper550Window Manager, display manager is your login screen, GDM12:44
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jlduggeri just bought a new LCD panel to replace my old crt; what do i need to debconf to get the higher resolutions?12:44
apokryphosJackPalmiery: please join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue discussion12:44
HymnToLifeyeah, sorry :p12:44
flodinebimberi thxs  for the help12:44
mcphailJackPalmiery: a decent C API12:44
bimberiflodine: np :)12:45
JackPalmieryI'll look into that.. been coding in java lately.. swing sucks12:45
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JackPalmieryan example of where consistancy can be bad12:46
bimberijldugger: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:46
jlduggerbimberi, thanks. you know why dpkg isnt using my GNOME interface?12:46
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Hoxzersomebody here uses wine?12:47
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bimberijldugger: no sorry :|12:47
JamesPlusPlusJackPalmiery: Swing isn't that bad ;)12:47
jlduggerbimberi, it's cool. just thought i'd ask.12:47
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bimberijldugger: i wonder if it's a switch to the dpkg command? *has a look*12:48
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grogoreohi12:48
the_mr_bong_showwill the pc run if i take the cmos battery out12:48
Viper550I've really been doin stuff to my Breezy, changed display manager to KDM, got KDE 3.5, patched ClearLooks with Cairo support, and E17 from scratch!12:48
jlduggerbimberi, there's probably a apt or dpkg conf file somewhere im missing.12:48
ispikedhow do I load the windows drivers for ndiswrapper if all I've done is load the kernel module (not compiled it)?12:49
grogoreoit seems I can't mount two of my linux partitions (though I can mount my windows one), so is there any tests I can do, to make sure they're ok?12:49
JamesPlusPlusWhen I try to compile Gaim, I'm getting this automake error: path/to/dir/Makefile.am: not supported: source file '/lib/srcfile.c' is in subdirectory12:49
JamesPlusPlusWhat could I be doing wrong?12:49
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apache_amWhere can i found SIS661FX driver ?12:50
apache_amSomeone Know12:50
apache_am?12:50
grogoreoapache_am, http://display-and-video.free-driver-download.com/SiS/12027/SiS-SiS661FX-SiSM661FX-Graphics-Driver-3.56.html12:51
bimberijldugger: found it - "sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf" and set the interface to Gnome :)12:51
jlduggerheh12:51
jlduggerdebconf debconf'12:51
jlduggerheh12:51
bimberi:)12:51
grogoreoapache_am, crap, sorry that's for windows12:51
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JamesPlusPlusapache_am: I suggest google ;d12:51
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apache_amI was looking for12:51
JackPalmieryhrmm.. for windows12:52
apache_ambut i hust found for windows12:52
apache_amjust12:52
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jlduggerbimberi, thanks a ton12:52
bimberijldugger: np :)12:52
grogoreoapache_am, http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_16.htm12:52
JackPalmieryhrmm.. there is also a kubuntu channel12:53
jlduggeryou know, ive never had the update tools ask me any questions. i wonder if it sets the priority to critical or none or something wierd12:53
grogoreocould someone tell me the command for a badblock check?12:53
Viper550Is there an IRc channel for Ubuntu Art?12:54
pl_icehey, guys i got problem with wine :/12:54
pl_icebadblocks12:54
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apache_amHow can i check my kernel ?12:54
pl_icecheck? ...12:55
iandeforcheck your kernel for what?12:55
apache_amthe version12:55
pl_icehey i need a hand with wine ...pls12:55
pl_icecat /proc/version12:55
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pl_iceanyone burns dvd's ?12:56
iandeforapache_am: you can check your kernel with uname -r12:57
DewDudeok, here's my thing...i finally got gstreamer working with ALL my formats...but..it seems to like to make my system a tad sluggish...you can see it on visualizations and such..the mouse cursor shows it too...it goes away once i close anything using gstramer...any ideas?12:57
iandeforas well12:57
DewDudeor should i just remove it entirely and build fresh from source12:57
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iandeforDewDude: I would rebuild01:02
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DewDudeok01:02
DewDudethe original install came from ubuntu repositories01:02
iandeforah01:03
DewDudeand it acted the same out of box01:03
DewDudei hacked monkeys audio into it01:03
iandeforokay01:03
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DewDudeit plays ALL my formats..it just01:03
DewDudelags my box01:03
iandeforyeah01:03
bluefox83hey, how do you guys have xchat 2.6.0 in your repositories already?01:03
DewDudeand doing my monkeys thing broke something else01:03
DewDudecuz i can't install beep-media plugins01:03
DewDudeat least musepack01:03
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Viper550Is there an Ubuntu Art channel?01:04
iandeforweird01:04
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DewDuderather than trying to fix the dependencies...i'm just gonna try to build libmpcdec and bmp-musepack01:04
Tyler7039who can i ask for help?01:04
Tyler7039i just need to know how to execute a .run file01:04
the_mr_bong_showwill the pc run if i take the cmos battery out01:04
Tyler7039brand new to linux01:04
Viper550./something.run01:04
bluefox83sh fjfjsdfkjsdfkjsdkj.run01:04
bluefox83or that01:04
Tyler7039just ./ ?01:04
DewDudeodd01:05
iandeforhmm?01:05
Tyler7039so its 'sh filename.run'?01:05
DewDudethe musepack plugin is insalling from adept now01:05
iandeforfancy that01:05
DewDudeit wasn't earlier01:05
DewDudeoh01:05
DewDudei know why01:05
DewDudecuz i manually built libmpcdec01:05
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DewDudeok01:05
iandeforokay01:06
DewDudeit's gstreamer i broke01:06
Viper550./ means to run a shell script or application01:06
iandeforgood deal01:06
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Viper550What do you think the next Ubuntu color will be?01:09
ElBaronochartreuse01:09
JamesPlusPlusHow could I get the latest version of automake?01:09
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JamesPlusPlusI used apt-get and it got me 1.401:10
ElBaronoJames: why do you need the latest version?01:10
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ElBaronohave there been monumental changes in automake since 1.4?01:10
JamesPlusPlusElBarono: it's giving me crazy errors01:10
wastrelhello my darling dearies.  how do i get streaming video to work?01:10
JamesPlusPlusAnd after consulting google, it could be an automake problem01:10
ElBaronohmm01:10
mcphailJamesPlusPlus: automake1.9 seems to be in the repos01:10
JamesPlusPlusfrom earlier: When I try to compile Gaim, I'm getting this automake error: path/to/dir/Makefile.am: not supported: source file '/lib/srcfile.c' is in subdirectory01:11
JamesPlusPlusmcphail: is there a way to specifically get that?01:11
bluefox83hey, how come your xchat2.6.0 is b0rked?01:11
JamesPlusPlusI just did the apt-get like 30min ago01:11
ElBaronoautomake is for developers01:11
JamesPlusPlusElBarono: yes...01:11
ElBaronothere is no reason for a user to ever need automake01:11
mcphailJamesPlusPlus: i suppose sudo apt-get install automake1.901:11
ElBaronowtf..01:11
JamesPlusPlusmcphail: k, lemme try that01:11
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the_mr_bong_showwill the pc run if i take the cmos battery out01:12
bluefox83uh, not till you put it back in O.o01:12
JamesPlusPlusmcphail: awesome, seems to be working01:12
JamesPlusPlusThanks01:12
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the_mr_bong_showts just i get cmos checksum bad f1 f2 sorta thing01:13
wastrelhi how do i get streaming video working in firefox?01:13
mcphailJamesPlusPlus: np01:13
corvaxin firefox?01:13
corvaxyou mean mediaplayer connectivity01:14
wastrelok01:14
wastrelsometimes it wants to play in the firefox window01:14
corvaxthats why i use anyway01:14
corvaxplus the mplayer plugin01:15
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JamesPlusPlusElBarono: what about users who are compiling Gaim, for example?01:15
NewIRCsomeone have firefox 1.5 installed in ubuntu 5.10 ?01:16
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Viper550 I do!01:16
iandeforas do I01:16
korhalfI'm Spartacus01:16
ElBaronoJames: end users should never need automake, even if they are compiling things01:16
NewIRCrpm ?01:16
korhalf!rpm01:16
ubotuI heard rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien01:16
NewIRC1alien01:17
NewIRC!alien01:17
ubotufrom memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/01:17
JamesPlusPlusElBarono: It seems I do right now - also, as a CS major I do smaller dev stuff, so eventually I'll probably start using it01:17
wastreli'm installing mozilla-mplayer 100%01:17
ElBaronothe GAIM developers should not have made it so that end users compiling GAIM need automake01:17
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korhalfAutotools for linux is bad01:17
korhalfim sorry01:17
kemikargh01:17
ElBaronoyou should need two things to compile something01:17
korhalfThere isn't a very well designed IDE around.01:17
pl_iceamy one ripps dvd's?01:17
kemikwhy does eclipse depend on java-common ?01:17
ElBaronomake and a compiler01:17
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kemiki got the sun j2sdk1.5001:18
kemikElBarono:  "build-essentials" got all the tools and more needed to compile stuff01:18
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mcphailkorhalf: autotools are horrible, but useful01:18
ElBaronoITYM 'build-essential'.01:18
korhalfmcphail, i guess01:18
ElBaronoand build-essential does not have autotools01:18
korhalfmcphail, i shoudl shutup before i piss off those linux zealots that believe vim + gcc is the way to go01:19
ElBaronoor automake01:19
ElBaronoor autoconf01:19
Viper550http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dapperproposal25fo.jpg These are my new Dapper Design Proposals01:19
mcphailkorhalf: it's nice to compile and run the same apps on ubuntu and windows/cygwin01:19
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wastrelmozilla-mplayer works super good happy01:19
mcphailkorhalf: a lot of homemade makefiles don't work as well01:19
ElBaronoautomake is a developer tool.  there is no excuse for forcing end users to have automake in order to compile your package01:20
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DewDudehehehe01:20
wastrelbye01:20
DewDudeit's finally all working01:20
the_mr_bong_showwill my pc start up without my cmos battery01:20
DewDudeyeah01:20
mcphailElBarono: sometimes end-users like to grab the bleeding edge from cvs01:20
DewDudebut it won't save any bios settings01:20
DewDudeand it'll probably give you a bad checksum error01:20
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djk_Viper550: that's a rather annoying wallpaper..01:20
ElBaronomcphail: if you are grabbing stuff from cvs then you're blurring the line between end user and developer01:20
JamesPlusPlusElBarono: indeed01:21
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ElBaronoJames didn't mention that he was grabbing stuff from CVS01:21
Viper550I made it myself!01:21
ElBaronoif he is, I retract my statements about the gaim developers01:21
Daveanybody know how to install flash in ubuntu01:22
ElBaronoDave: yes01:22
Davewee01:22
polpak!flash01:22
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats01:22
djk_Viper550: pixelized != unique..01:22
polpakread the restricted formats wiki01:22
DewDudeooooooh01:22
DewDudethat is nice01:22
ElBaronoDave: asking meta-questions is discouraged01:22
JamesPlusPlusElBarono: I am pulling out my stuff from CVS, yes01:22
JamesPlusPlusPerhaps saying "compiling Gaim" is a tad vague01:22
djk_Viper550: pixelized is so 80's ;)01:22
ElBaronoJames: yes01:22
ElBaronoin that case you should install whichever version of automake you need..01:23
Viper550And, nobody does that! Nobody did Brown interfaces until Ubuntu came around01:23
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pl_icehitting head against the wall ...01:23
toya_hi ppl01:23
JamesPlusPlusEh, I went and upgraded to 1.901:23
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ElBaronoas mcphail said01:23
Daveman i read the support forum and i cant install the JRE pack it gives me errors. Tried repacking as a .deb but same01:23
JamesPlusPlusNo more errors01:23
toya_can someone tell me where can i find my .profile?01:23
ElBaronosweet01:23
ElBaronotoya_: if you're using bash, you probably don't have a .profile01:23
polpakDave, read the restricted formats wiki01:23
ElBaronoyou can use .bash_profile instead01:23
Daveokay :O01:24
ElBaronoor create .profile manually01:24
bimberitoya_: ~/.bash_profile01:24
djk_Viper550: nobody does pink interfaces..01:24
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iandeforhow observant01:24
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toya_ic01:24
toya_thx01:24
freddy_hello...how do i install a bootsplash? thanks.01:24
Viper550It's not pink, it's brown of course!01:25
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corvaxdave apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla01:25
toya_i wanna change my PS1 to something everytime i load terminal01:25
Davesweet01:25
djk_Viper550: you didn't get the point..a colour doesn't make it 'unique'01:25
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toya_inside .bash_profile they have if statements, is it safe if i just put PS1='something'?01:25
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freddy_bootsplash? anyone?01:26
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Comrade_VladimirYES i did go on #ubuntu on windows!01:26
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Viper550Me too!01:26
Comrade_Vladimircool took a while tho01:26
Hoxzerhow do I install dll files to wine?01:26
Comrade_Vladimiri have dual boot!01:26
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bimberitoya_: i think PS1 is set in ~/.bashrc01:27
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bimberifreddy_: how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto ?01:27
Daveso hears my last help question. I cant boot default  modules/lib/10. Have to enter grub and choose lib/9, help01:27
Viper550The Ubuntu computer dual boots, but I'm not on IRC on that one right now01:28
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toya_bimberi, is it safe if i just set PS1 again in the end?01:28
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bimberitoya_: yep, fine :)01:28
toya_bimberi, do you know the special chars for it? or where to find out? (i mean like \u \$ etc)01:29
bimberitoya_: no you've got me there sorry :)01:29
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_jasontoya_, there's a list in man bash01:29
toya_bimberi, ok thx for your help01:29
toya__jason, oh k thx01:29
bimberionya _jason !01:30
Paradossohi everybody, is there an audacious ubuntu package available somewhere?01:30
iandeforaudacity, you mean?01:30
Paradossoaudacious, the bmp fork01:30
iandeforoh01:30
iandefornever heard of it01:30
Daveso yeah, i have to enter grub and choose /lib/mdules blah blah 9 instead of lib/modules bla blah 10 (default) it cant find01:31
_jasontoya_, line 2300 lol01:31
bimberitoya_: or search for PROMPTING (2nd hit) :)01:31
forestKtos po polsku01:31
toya__jason, can you tell me how to jump to specific line?01:32
_jasontoya_, use bimberi's method: /prompting <searches for prompting... then press 'n'01:32
bimberitoya_: 2300G01:32
flodineanyone know how to start xset auto01:32
toya_bimberi, _jason oh ok thx01:33
bimberitoya_: np :)01:33
blackgeckohas anyone get 3d accel on a ati igp 345 ??  please ??01:34
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bipolardoes anyone know a way to use dd to append to an existing file?01:34
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tyler7039who here can give me help on navigating with the command line01:35
tyler7039i cant run anything because it says file not found01:35
tyler7039but thats because im in the wrong directory01:35
bipolarheh01:35
bipolartyler7039: what are you trying to do?01:35
tyler7039and i have absolutely no clue how to do anything01:35
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_jasonubotu, tell tyler7039 about cli01:35
bimberi!cli01:35
ubotufrom memory, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org01:35
tyler7039run a graphics driver program01:35
tyler7039nvidia.run01:36
Paradosso!audacious01:36
ubotuParadosso: Not a clue01:36
bipolartyler7039: ahh...01:36
bipolartyler7039: where did you download it to? Your home directory?01:36
tyler7039desktop01:36
bipolarok01:36
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tyler7039that was by default01:36
dingo001hi01:36
Jonas^i seem to have lost my boot partition.01:36
iandeforhullo01:36
iandeforsay more...01:37
bipolartyler7039: so you need to change to the Desktop directory to run the program, right?01:37
dingo001im trying to install ubuntu on a old ibm machine that does not have bootable cd drive01:37
dingo001any suggestions?01:37
Jonas^last time i booted up, i got a lot of errors about not being able to execute "/sbin/getty"01:37
tyler7039bipolar: yes01:37
corvaxcd /home/yourusername/Deskto01:37
Jonas^and Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, etc.01:37
corvaxp01:37
bipolartyler7039: you need to use the 'cd' command.01:37
Jonas^and now i can't boot (grub error 24), and i cannot mount the partition from the livecd.01:37
MrProper_does anyone know if you can get global shortcuts for xmms? (as in windows key+b for next track regardless of application focus)01:37
Jonas^anyone have any ideas?01:37
bipolartyler7039: so if you are at a command prompt, you are probbly at somthing like "user@ubuntu:~" right?01:38
tyler7039bipolar: thats what i tried...cuz im familiar with MS-DOS01:38
tyler7039bipolar: just not the ubuntu terminal01:38
pl_iceMrProper_ i tried to use my multimedia k.board ...01:38
bipolartyler7039: the commands work a little diffrent01:38
dingo001any ideas on how to install ubuntu on a machine whose cd drive is not bootable?01:38
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tyler7039bipolar: yes...thats what shows up01:38
corvaxtyler cd /home/yourusername/Desktop01:38
bipolartyler7039: use 'cd Desktop'01:38
tyler7039bipolar: Tyler@tyler:01:38
aeon17x!frostwire01:39
ubotuaeon17x: Are you on ritalin?01:39
aeon17x!limewire01:39
ubotuhmm... limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.01:39
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bipolartyler7039: the first thing you need to know is that the commands a Case Sensitive.01:39
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bipolartyler7039: Desktop is not the same as desktop, DeSkToP, etc...01:39
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iandefordingo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto01:40
iandeforsee if that helps01:40
bipolartyler7039: also, 'cd' all by itself will return you to your home directory, where you are now01:40
tyler7039bipolar: yeah. thats where i am stuck01:40
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_jasontyler7039, what do you mean stuck?01:41
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joshlook. i am new at linux, lol01:41
_jasonjosh, well you're in the right chat room01:41
korhalfjosh, what do you need?01:41
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tyler7039i am stuck in my home directory and i dont know how to navigate with the command line to run any programs01:41
joshhow do i open a folder?01:41
bipolartyler7039: your desktop is in '~/Desktop' where ~ means your home directory.01:41
joshlike browse?01:41
_jasontyler7039, 'ls' is like 'dir' in dos01:41
korhalfyou doublt click on it.01:42
bipolartyler7039: 'cd' will always take you back to your home directory. so will 'cd ~'01:42
_jasontyler7039, type ls and see what directories are under you01:42
corvaxisingle click lol01:42
korhalfoh its single?01:42
korhalfi dont use the GUI lol01:42
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tyler7039_jason: it just says 'Desktop'01:42
corvaxoh01:42
corvaxso you goto that directory01:42
joshis there a window to browse through folders?01:43
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_jasontyler7039, great that's what is in your home directory.  If you want to go to Desktop, you do: cd Desktop01:43
korhalfjosh, yes, the Gnome File Browser01:43
corvaxjosh you arent using a de?01:43
Delvienwhere are the NAUTILUS scripts?01:43
joshah i see it!01:43
tyler7039_jason: ahh...thank you01:43
joshcool01:43
joshthx01:43
tyler7039_jason: thats what ive been trying to do all along01:43
joshi came from windows >.<01:43
tyler7039_jason: is there anything special i need to do to run nvidia.run?01:43
blackgeckohas anyone get 3d accel on a ati igp 345 ??  please ??01:43
_jasontyler7039, why are you running nvidia.run?01:44
Screenwiperwho is opening my files?01:44
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tyler7039_jason: to update my graphics drivers...ubuntu didnt install the correct ones01:44
_jasonubotu, tell tyler7039 about nvidia01:44
_jasontyler7039, have you attempted the procedure at the wiki?  (ubotu just sent you a link to it)01:45
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Jonas^anyone familiar with the errors 'cannot execute "/sbin/getty"'. 'Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes'  (for id's one through six) on bootup?01:45
holycowhey all01:45
holycowhe i have 3 ubuntu workstations to setup, and i'm making the first install on an old 20 gig hd.  what options do i have for duplicating that hd onto drives of different sizes without going through the manual install and config process?01:45
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tyler7039_jason: no not yet...but i tried doing it a way that other people told me about, by typing './filename.run' and it says "Permission Denied."01:45
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tyler7039_jason: what's up with that?01:45
machhey, folks. Is it possible to get an old machine (Celeron 333 Mhz, 128 MB Ram, 4 giga HD) to  run Ubuntu smoothly with graphical interface?01:45
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corvaxtry sudo01:46
_jasontyler7039, I'll tell you what's up with that.  But you should use the directions at the wiki.01:46
krestenHi everybody!01:46
tyler7039corvax: just tried sudo...said "Command not found"01:46
_jasontyler7039, in general you don't download random files and run them to install things.  You use the repositories through synaptic.01:46
tyler7039sudo ./nvidia.run01:46
ispikedwhat command am I looking for if I want to query packages in a repository?01:46
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M_Cheevyheya folks01:47
tyler7039_jason: i also read about that01:47
krestenDoes anyone know how to change the default "run" command for a specific type of files?01:47
_jasontyler7039, and did you try the wiki method?01:47
tyler7039_jason: i couldnt figure out how to add repositories into that program01:47
tyler7039_jason: i will...one sec01:47
_jasontyler7039, I'll help you out, let me know where you are getting stuck01:47
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M_Cheevywhat are the correct permissions for /usr/bin/eject?  root root -rwxr-xr-x?01:48
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corvaxthis is how you add repos  cd /etc/apt01:48
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flodinedoes anyone use xset fp+01:48
keronkresten, right-click, properties, open-with-tab01:48
Comrade_Vladimirhow come i use the clarke server on winf=dows?01:48
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MrProper_i have an ssh server that i want to automatically forward ssh for a particular user to another server, any ideas?01:48
corvaxsudo nano sources.list01:48
Hoxzerwhere wine configure file located ?01:48
_jasonM_Cheevy, mine read: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 16584 2005-07-21 12:53 /usr/bin/eject01:48
krestenkeron, thanks...01:48
HighHopesHello! Somebody knows when Firefox 1.5 will be put in Universe or Multiverse repositories?01:48
crimsunHighHopes: it won't. It's a main package.01:48
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M_Cheevy_jason: basically the same... bugger... then that's not it....01:49
M_Cheevytrying to debug an cd/dvd eject issue01:49
byteshackanyone running xfce4 here? My xfce panel has disappeared, and I cant get it to pop-up again, any ideas?01:49
HighHopescrimsun, but ff 1.07 is in repositories... why won't put 1.5 ?01:49
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crimsunHighHopes: because they're FROZEN. They released. No new software (or versions of existing software) goes in. Period.01:49
byteshackHighHopes, have you tried to install ff 1.5? Straight from mozilla?  There is howto in the wiki01:50
byteshackHighHopes, it's way faster than the one in the repos01:50
_jasontyler7039, I'm going to go eat.  If you have any problems with the repositories again just let the channel know.01:50
HighHopesbyteshack, ok. Thank you!01:50
D1!javadeb01:50
ubotuwell, javadebs is Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb01:50
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Lukianwhat's the fastest way to burn something (photos) for an end-user01:51
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keronbyteshack, tried xfce4-panel& in terminal?01:52
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Jonas^anyone feel like helping me with my lost boot partition?01:52
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bolrodNO!01:52
bolroduh01:52
corvaxlukian get k3b01:52
joshi can't open "Add Applications"01:52
bolrodwhats /lost'01:52
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Jonas^i can't mount it anymore01:53
corvaxjosh why?01:53
bolrodJonas^: why....01:53
joshit won't show up01:53
bolrodwhats the error01:53
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Jonas^i get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or other error01:53
nickrudLukian, one way is left click the desktop, enter burn:// in the dialog box, drag photos there, then hit the burn button01:53
corvaxyou mean its removed from the panel?01:53
Jonas^last time i booted up i had a lot of errors01:53
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byteshackkeron, that worked.  Any ideas how it got lost?01:53
Jonas^Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes01:53
joshno, i click it, and nothing happens01:54
Jonas^for ids one to six01:54
byteshackkeron, thanks!01:54
pl_iceneed breakfast :D01:54
joshis it administration settings?01:54
Jonas^and lots of cannot execute "/sbin/getty"01:54
bolrodoh01:54
bolrodand you cant repair it?01:54
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Jonas^don't know how to01:54
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keronbyteshack, it probably crashed... you just started the aplication again.. np01:54
corvaxwell it should bring up a prmpt for your root password01:54
bolrodwith the fsck01:54
bolrodsomething...01:54
Delviennalioth you there?01:54
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MrRiohow do i make WxWidgets use the GTK2 theme?01:54
Jonas^hold on01:54
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charcan anyone help?01:55
MrRioim sure wxwidget apps can look half-decent instead of that mirky grey with horrible button01:55
MrRios01:55
corvaxchar just for this session?01:55
corvaxor everytime01:55
charnop01:55
raphinkdepends with what char01:55
chari logged out, logged in and it still won't work01:55
charshould i reboot?01:56
Jonas^bolrod, when i do fsck /dev/hda1 i get "Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hda1. The filesystem revision is too high for this version of e2fsck. Or the filesystem superblock is curropt"01:56
Jonas^*currupt01:56
charcorrupt01:56
charbrb y'all01:56
bolrodsounds sweet :/01:56
Jonas^yeah :) when i ask parted to print the partition table, it doesn't show anything in the filesystem column next to this partition01:57
bolrodhrm01:57
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bolroddid you turn off your computer when it was writing a file or something?01:57
ice9can someone help me with chroot01:57
bolrodor was it about to write something...01:57
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ice9I need help with the file /etc/fstab ?01:58
bolrodno you dont01:58
bolrodthere is a manual page01:58
pl_iceice9 what u need?01:58
Lukianhow do i bootup with numblock on?01:58
bolrod;p01:58
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awtomlinsoni tried to run fsck & rebuild my directory structure, received the following error:  The problem has occurred looks like a hardware problem. If you have01:58
awtomlinsonbad blocks, we advise you to get a new hard drive, because once you01:58
awtomlinsonget one bad block that the disk drive internals cannot hide from01:58
awtomlinsonyour sight,the chances of getting more are generally said to become01:58
awtomlinsonmuch higher (precise statistics are unknown to us), and this disk01:58
awtomlinsondrive is probably not expensive enough for you to you to risk your01:58
Jonas^the system suddenly froze, completely. i had to hard reset it. then when it booted up i got the errors about /sbin/getty and id's respawning, and it stopped.01:58
awtomlinsontime and data on it. If you don't want to follow that follow that01:58
awtomlinsonadvice then if you have just a few bad blocks, try writing to the01:58
awtomlinsonbad blocks and see if the drive remaps the bad blocks (that means01:58
awtomlinsonit takes a block it has in reserve and allocates it for use for01:58
bolrodoh cheesus.....01:58
awtomlinsonof that block number). If it cannot remap the block, use badblock01:58
ice9help with chroot01:58
awtomlinsonoption (-B) with reiserfs utils to handle this block correctly.01:58
Chris_Tuckerhow does one use networking sound?01:58
Jonas^then i rebooted again, and i got grub error 24.01:58
awtomlinsonbread: Cannot read the block (6935674): (Input/output error).01:58
awtomlinsonAborted01:58
awtomlinsondo i have any hope of recovering data?01:58
pl_ice!pastebin01:58
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:58
Chris_Tucker!paste01:59
Jonas^then i booted from a livecd and tried to mount it, and it wont, and here i am.01:59
ubotupaste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:59
ice9with the file /etc/fstab01:59
Chris_Tuckerhow does one use networking sound?01:59
bolrodurh01:59
bolrodwell....... a system that freezes for no appparent reason.... is a bit weird01:59
pl_iceice9 so what u want to do exactly?01:59
bolrodmaybe it messed up the filesystem.....01:59
bolrodI dont know01:59
Jonas^yeah.01:59
ice9need to see someones /etc/fstab file02:00
ice9for chroot02:00
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pl_icebolrod but there is a reason for this madness ;) shakespeare :D02:00
joshstill won't work02:00
bolrodmaybe inode table has gone bezerk02:00
Jonas^i thought the point of ext3 was that it would recover if it was shut off while writing something02:00
bolrodwelllll......... yes.02:00
Jonas^hehe02:00
bolrodI thought so too02:00
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awtomlinsoncan someone please help?  please, please02:00
bolrodmaybe the hard disk has too much bad sectors02:00
bolrod?02:00
ice9if someone could pm the file I would appreciate it02:00
_jasonJonas^, you may want to try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2411302:00
bolrodand gone beyond repair.....02:00
Jonas^hold on02:01
chromatewhat portable hard-drive mp3 players do you all use/recommend?02:01
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joshiPod!!!02:01
joshnano, black02:01
bolrodchromate: what do you want02:01
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ktogiasI am thinking of switching to Dapper at my laptop, that I do not depend on but would like it to be functional, in order to help with some testing - bug recovery (and to play ofcource)... Is dapper in a "working" state, or will I just have a non operational mess?02:01
pl_icechromate i got ipod :/  i'm gonna put linux on it :D02:01
bolrodnano...... bah.. is only 4GB02:01
joshmine's Suzuki02:01
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Chris_Tuckerhow does one use networking sound?02:01
bolrod4GB iz way tuu lietl02:01
bolrod:] 02:01
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Chris_Tuckeror networked sound02:01
awtomlinsondo i have any hope of recovering data given the error message that i received?02:01
Chris_Tuckerwhatever it is02:01
Jonas^_jason: that involves manually mounting partitions. my problem is that i cannot mount it.02:02
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Jonas^so... :-)02:02
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johnnybezakktogias: i was on dapper last week, it was seriously screwed up02:02
chromatepl_ice: yeah i was looking more in the 10-20 gb range02:02
joshi don't think ubuntu sees me as an admin02:02
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joshhow do i fix that?02:02
ice9pl_ice do you have a chroot ?02:02
pl_icechromate yeh, u can get ~40 gigs as well for ipod02:02
bolrodJonas^: maybe you could figure something out with  dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/some/dir/02:02
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Jonas^bolrod, do you know what command i use to check for bad sectors?02:03
bolrodand extract data from it02:03
pl_iceice9, sorry can't help ya02:03
DewDudeipod is an overpriced piece of crap02:03
ice9bummer02:03
ice9k02:03
DewDudeavoid it at all costs02:03
bolrodJonas^: fsck could check02:03
DewDudeyou can find better players with more space for the same money02:03
bolrodI think there is some option for it02:03
pl_iceice9  u trying to put chroot in fstab?02:03
frogzoo#josh I guess if you run 'groups' youl see admin mentioned - just remove yourself from the group in /etc/groups (as root)02:03
joshDewDude, you probably bought one, hacked it and it died and u thought that you couldn't fix it, lol?02:03
DewDudebuying ipod is like buying a dell..you pay for advertising and brand02:03
DewDudethat's it02:03
pl_iceDewDude but u can put linux on it :D o/w i agree i burned the bugger after 2 weeks :/02:03
DewDudeno02:03
_jasonJonas^, I know someone was getting grub24 errors and fixed it by doing that.  Your problem may be totally unrelated, but you may want to try it if you run out of ideas02:03
DewDudei just don't see where it's THAT great02:04
ktogiasjohnnybezak, thanks... I think I 'll wait for a couple of months...02:04
bolrod -c                   Check for bad blocks and add them to the badblock list02:04
msmithnew to linux, son told me to install this.  How do I change the resolution?  It's too low and I only get one option in the System/Screen Resolution application02:04
Jonas^well, fsck refuses to touch it because of the corrupt superblock.02:04
bolrodor blocks.. whatever :)02:04
DewDudeget an iriver player02:04
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joshi've killed my pod twice02:04
bolrodhrm02:04
DewDudethey're at least supporting OGG in thier players02:04
joshthx frogzoo02:04
bolrodjosh: how?02:04
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frogzoobolrod: how what?02:04
Nekomageshow do I manually install a .deb file?02:04
_jasonubotu, tell msmith about fixres02:05
Jonas^hmm02:05
bolrodkill an ipod02:05
pl_ice!alien02:05
ubotuhmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/02:05
Lukiandpkg -i file @ Nekomages02:05
Nekomagesthx02:05
frogzooNekomages: 'sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb'02:05
_jasonNekomages, what are you installing02:05
bolrodNekomages: dpkg -i02:05
Nekomagescedega 5.x02:05
joshUsers and Groups isn't opening either02:05
Nekomagesno point in screwing with packages with it anymore since it has it's own updater now02:05
frogzoojosh: sudo vi /etc/groups02:05
pl_iceu guys know? i never ever can remember how to write dpkg :/02:05
CaptainMorganat login, a popup occurs, "HOME/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and preventing default session. It should be set to user and have 644 permissions." So I check on it, and I adjust it to 644 permissions... yet, Im the user and that was already correct. After all this, the popup still occurs, why?02:05
Delvienwhere are the NAUTILUS scripts?02:06
josh)_)02:06
josh0_002:06
bolrodDebian PaKaGe02:06
bolrod:)02:06
bolrodprobably02:06
frogzoojosh: u sure you want to do this?02:06
joshwhat's sudo vi?02:06
chromatebolrod: 10-20gb, easy transfer with linux, long battery life (for 4-5 hour drives), and easy to navigate while driving02:06
joshdo what!02:06
Jonas^_jason: yeah, but my main issue isn't grub not booting, it's not being able to even mount my partition once i'm booted from another system or a livecd.02:06
bolrodvu us ab edutir02:06
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Delvien_jason do you know where the scripts are for Nautilus so i may add something??02:06
bolrodwow02:06
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frogzoojosh: how are you going to maintain your box subsequently?02:06
_jasonDelvien, put: where are the nautilus scripts in google02:06
bolrodvi is an editor02:06
bolrod(had a little typing offset ;))02:06
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Nekomagesvi is a headache ^^02:06
ELpH95owhat'sup folks02:07
ssstormyI've realized I need to hand edit the "provided" value of a .deb package- but how do I do this?  where do I put the values?02:07
ELpH95oubuntu is the distro that's going to save the human race02:07
Delvien_jason i know hehe but i cant find anything on WHERE they are02:07
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Nekomagesgentoo will save the human race, ubuntu will make it easier and for the other 95% thats to stupid no help will ever save them ^^02:08
_jasonDelvien, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101870&highlight=nautilus+script02:08
pl_iceu guys seen this one?02:08
Jonas^bolrod, dd seems like a last option. i'd really really like to recover this filesystem intact :-) no ideas at all?02:08
Jonas^who would i ask?02:08
DewDudehttp://pastebin.com/474445 <- if someone could give me an idea as to if it's a dependency failure or bad makefile, thanks in advance. feel free to msg..i'm stepping out for a smoke and will probably miss answers02:08
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pl_ice370HSSV-0773H02:09
pl_ice:P02:09
bolrodfsck.ext3  ? you tried that one?02:09
bolrodmaybe its more helpfull02:09
bolrod:/02:09
awtomlinsonregeya, i spoke with you last night.  tried to rebuild my reiser directory, got the following error:02:09
QRZDelvien:  You can put your Nautilus scripts in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and they'll be available via right-click from within Nautilus.02:09
awtomlinsonThe problem has occurred looks like a hardware problem. If you have02:09
awtomlinsonbad blocks, we advise you to get a new hard drive, because once you02:09
awtomlinsonget one bad block that the disk drive internals cannot hide from02:09
awtomlinsonyour sight,the chances of getting more are generally said to become02:09
awtomlinsonmuch higher (precise statistics are unknown to us), and this disk02:09
awtomlinsondrive is probably not expensive enough for you to you to risk your02:09
awtomlinsontime and data on it. If you don't want to follow that follow that02:09
cafuegoSo, you learned a valueable lesson on why not to use reiser.02:09
awtomlinsonadvice then if you have just a few bad blocks, try writing to the02:09
awtomlinsonbad blocks and see if the drive remaps the bad blocks (that means02:09
awtomlinsonit takes a block it has in reserve and allocates it for use for02:10
awtomlinsonof that block number). If it cannot remap the block, use badblock02:10
awtomlinsonoption (-B) with reiserfs utils to handle this block correctly.02:10
awtomlinsonbread: Cannot read the block (6935674): (Input/output error).02:10
pl_ice!pastebin02:10
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:10
awtomlinsonAborted02:10
Nekomagesidiocy alert02:10
cafuegoAlso, DON'T PASTE02:10
KyralNO PASTE!02:10
mrkoje!flood02:10
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.02:10
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DelvienQRZ /.gnome2 is not a directory it says02:10
_jasonawtomlinson, USE PASTEBIN, people have told you before...02:10
QRZDelvien:  ~/.gnome2, not /.gnome202:10
_jasonDelvien, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/faq.php disagrees about the location, read that02:10
awtomlinsonsorry.  do i have any hope of recovering the data?02:10
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Jonas^bolrod, it says the exact same thing. anyway, if i want to check for physically bad sectors (or blocks? :-) ), i guess it shouldn't really matter what filesystem was on the disk...02:10
cafuegoDewDude: Bad code.02:10
_jasonDelvien, most likely more than one location works02:11
corvaxTonight on The Linux Link Tech Show: Dan's 7 year old daughter installs Ubuntu02:11
SealyDavecant find the restricted package list link02:11
bolrodJonas^: hrm... dont know :)02:11
corvaxhehe02:11
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cafuego!+restrictedFormats02:11
ubotuit has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats02:11
Jonas^well02:11
typewriterwhy is postfix a dependency of mysql-server?02:11
NanoBCN28hi guys. One question. This might not be the right place but I was already logged. How do I connect to telnet through a bash script?02:11
Jonas^thanks a lot for your help anyway02:11
QRZDelvien:  Ubuntu seems to like ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts though.02:11
Jonas^:-(02:11
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cafuegotypewriter: On unattended startup, mysql might send email to root if corrupted DBs are found.02:11
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brian_i am slightly new to linux. i'd like to watch streaming video. how do i install new software? ive tried to read documentation, but nothing is clear to me.02:13
awtomlinsoncan anyone help?02:13
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aeon17xbrian_: look at the Starter Guide in the help files.02:13
DelvienQRZ what is a .sig file?02:13
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toya_can anyone answer my question02:14
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toya_how do i set a hotkey to xkill?02:14
ELpH95oNekomages, :that's a great one02:14
_jasonubotu, tell toya_ about shortcuts02:14
QRZDelvien:  ...as in signature file perhaps?02:14
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johnhol_salve02:15
_jasontoya_, are you getting that many crashes that you need a shortcut key? :P02:15
awtomlinsonthanks for the suggestions guys02:15
johnhol_qualcuno sa dirmi come connettermi ad internet con nokia 6680 ???02:15
NanoBCN28johnhol_, mi dispiace, ma sarebbe meglio che parlassi inglese qui02:15
darkangel_Excuse me all i have a question. How come the test print from my printer came out blank but i can print from webpages but i cant print pdfs they come out blank. Any help would be nice02:16
SealyDavehaving a bitch of a time installing sun java JRE02:16
toya__jason, just wondering, thx02:16
cafuegoSealyDave: Use the .deb generator.02:16
SealyDavei did that02:16
NanoBCN28SealyDave, even from deb files?02:16
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SealyDaveas per wiki02:16
cafuegoAre you on i386?02:16
_jasonubotu, tell SealyDave about javadeb02:16
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SealyDaveyeah02:16
mareloi got the following error while trying to install firefox 1.5:02:16
marelo./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:16
cafuego!tell marelo -about firefox1.502:17
marelobut there's no libstdc++.so.5 in my synaptic02:17
Toma-cafuego: that dvdbackup didnt work... didnt like 1 sector on the dvd so errored out! instead, i used acidrip, and it worked perfect :) problem is, i encoded the japanese sound track, not the english :/ damn.02:17
flodinehow do i make a program start up when i sign into ubuntu?02:17
cafuegoToma-: d'oh :-)02:17
_jasonmarelo, install libstdc++502:17
HymnToLifemarelo > do you have the correct repos ?02:17
Toma-:P~02:17
mrkojeubotu tell me about firefox 1.502:17
johnhol_can i connect to WWW with my NOKIA 6680 on Ubuntu Breezy ???02:17
cafuegoOr use firefox 1.0.7, which works fine.02:17
mareloHymnToLife, i think so... the default ones02:18
keronjohnhol_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3474002:18
NanoBCN28johnhol_, what do you mean to www? to make a private network between your nokia and Ubuntu?02:18
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flodinesoundray welcome02:18
soundrayHi flodine02:18
johnhol_connect to Internet02:18
ELpH95oi have firefox 1.5 running perfect02:18
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Toma-marelo: apt-file comes up with "libstdc++5: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.502:19
Toma-"02:19
ELpH95oi'm going to try to make a automatic deb package for it02:19
Toma-pfft 2 line. gg xchat02:19
soundrayflodine, I filed a bug against xfonts-artwiz :)02:19
ELpH95oI'm somewhat of a linux newbie but i come from the land of FreeBSD02:19
johnhol_i want to connect to internet with my nokia 6680 via USB02:19
flodinesoundray got the fonts to work in a terminal but i got to xset everytime i sign in02:19
corvaxif firefox updates itself in version 1.5 wont that cause problems02:19
typewriterwhats the easiest way to install qmail on ubuntu?02:19
johnhol_not bluetooth02:19
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Toma-corvax: its been updating itself since 1.0 i think02:20
corvaxwith depencies02:20
cafuegotypewriter: apart from 'not" ?02:20
_jasoncorvax, why?02:20
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typewriternot?02:20
cafuegocorvax: Like I said, firefox 1.0.7 works fine.02:20
soundrayflodine, I think the error is very simply that the package places the files in the wrong directory.02:20
debater86hey guys, could someone help me get my external USB drive to automount?02:20
debater86Because it's not.02:20
crimsuntypewriter: use qmailanalog-installer.02:20
DelvienQRZ i downloaded this https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/audio-convert/, im trying to make it so i can have the "script" in there so i can can use it via right click02:20
johnhol_???02:20
darkangel_register02:21
darkangel_register nick02:21
QRZDelvien:  Ok.  So did it work?02:21
Toma-johnhol_: you'll need to set it up as external modem02:21
johnhol_are there a free but full driver for conexant internal 56k modem ? a linuxant key??02:21
debater86I put my USB drive in, and it does not come up on my desktop. I look at dmesg, though, and it shows that it knows the drive has been plugged in...02:21
_jasonubotu, tell darkangel_ about register02:21
typewriterqmailanalog-installer is not qmail02:21
DelvienQRZ i dont know what kind of file do i need in there to be a "script"?02:21
soundrayflodine, you could save your xset command in a script and run it on login. Would you like the details for that?02:21
cafuegojohnhol_: Please don't ask for warez.02:21
flodinesoundray everytime i sign in i got to typ xset fp what do i do02:21
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typewriteri'm wondering if someone made some qmail packages of ubuntu i can just install with that are widely accepted as official as unofficial can get02:22
corvaxisnt qmail non free?02:22
cafuegocorvax: yup02:22
joshgmail, i have that02:22
joshwhat's qmail?02:22
keronmailserver02:22
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typewriterqmail is part of non-free?02:22
cafuegotypewriter: Having qmail ubuntu packages would violate the licence... so probably not.02:22
QRZDelvien:  All you have to do is download and save it to a file in your ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts directory and make sure it's executable (chmod 755 ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/name_of_script.sh).02:22
crimsuntypewriter: we cannot distribute qmail in binary form period.02:23
typewritercafuego: im saying unofficial packages that are widely regarded as "official"02:23
joshhey, i'm still not having it see me as an Admin. someone give me step by step how to fix that plz lol02:23
crimsuntypewriter: to do so would violate DJB's license.02:23
soundrayflodine, you could save your xset command in a script and run it on login. Would you like the details for that?02:23
typewriteryou're not understanding me02:23
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cafuegotypewriter: DKB would flame them quite a lot, I expect.02:23
crimsuntypewriter: it's qmail-installer iirc02:23
tsumeUncleD: choo choooo!!!!02:23
Hoolioexit02:23
tsumeoh man, its cafuego02:23
flodinesoundray please02:24
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keronjosh, you have another account on the comp that can do sudo?02:24
typewriterhttp://smarden.org/pape/Debian/02:24
DelvienQRZ it worked02:24
cafuegoA better idea would be to use less restrictive software.02:24
joshnope02:24
darkangel_Anyone here know anything about printing02:24
joshi don't.... and, it won't let me add or view the users/groups02:24
crimsuntypewriter: sorry, it's qmail-src02:24
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Nekomageshow do I switch opengl to my ati drivers? ^^02:24
pashawflodine, couldnt you add the command to System-> Sessions ->startup Programs (command)02:25
Xenguy!printing02:25
ubotuI guess printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org02:25
keronjosh, that is a security isue, you cant add a admin without being admin02:25
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Toma-anyone know if seveas repo's are down? and whats the name of it now? i cant keep up <:(02:25
joshBAH02:25
joshto fix, est wa ka?02:25
QRZDelvien:  Cool!  I love the idea of nautilus scripts.  I've written several myself.  My latest is a virus scanner script for it.  It allows you to scan files/directories by right-clicking on them!02:25
_jasonToma-, I can't get to the homepage either02:25
Toma-dang it.02:25
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crimsuntypewriter: e.g., http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/qmail-src02:26
tsumeest wa ka?02:26
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tsumejosh: what is est?02:26
keronjosh, i think the easiest way to fix is to boot from a live cd, mount the disk and edit the configfiles....02:26
tsumejosh: and why are you using japanese? :P "wa ka?"02:26
DelvienQRZ cool is there any converts to PNG02:26
joshlmao02:26
soundrayflodine, create a file with '#!/bin/sh', followed by your xset command. Save it (a typical location would be $HOME/bin). Do a 'chmod 700 $HOME/bin/scriptname'. Go to System-Preferences-Sessions and add the script to Startup Programs. Next time you log in, it should happen automatically.02:27
finalcutanyone have a minute to help me with an 3G ipod and ubuntu problem?02:27
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tsumejosh: it doesn't even make sense :/02:27
joshit's cool. i made my own language that expresses what i'm trying to say rather than using faces and slang all the time02:27
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Toma-josh: cant you use sudo?02:27
joshwhat's sudo?02:27
Toma-!sudo02:27
Toma-damn pm02:27
QRZDelvien:  Probably.  You could google for it and see.  If not, write one!  I'm currently working on a file encrypter/decrypter script for Nautilus.02:27
Toma-sudo is the "fake" admin tool02:27
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Toma-lets you edit/change things as root/admin02:28
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DelvienQRZ cool02:28
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marelodamn! installing programs in linux it too difficult! grrrr02:28
marelo*iss too...02:28
joshhow do i get to it?02:28
_jasonmarelo, what are you installing02:28
crimsunmarelo: Applications> Add Applications is difficult?02:28
Toma-marelo: what are u installing?02:28
Delvienmarelo nah , just not as stupid as windows is02:28
marelofirefox 1.502:28
ubuntuhey guys! what was the command to check the file system and/or partition tables though a terminal?02:28
joshBAH humbug02:29
toya_why does it give me some gtk warning when i try to gedit as a root (sudo -i)?02:29
soundrayflodine, for shell script examples, look at the ones in /etc/init.d02:29
Toma-josh: log in as a nirmal user, then run "sudo <command>" in a terminal02:29
mareloand others programs beat me as well hoho02:29
Toma-normal even02:29
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toya_someone told me that the root's PATH doesn't have the folder where gedit is in02:29
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joshfufufufu02:29
crimsunmarelo: FF 1.5 is not in Breezy, so it's not available in that way.02:29
corvaxinstalling too difficult?02:29
corvaxlol02:29
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ubuntuhey guys! what was the command to check the file system and/or partition tables though a terminal?02:29
toya_but i did PATH=$PATH:mynormaluserpath and it still gives me that warning02:29
marelocrimsun, i know, i'm trying to install "manually"02:29
aeon17xubuntu: cfdisk02:30
ice9anyone have chroot installed here ?02:30
ubuntuthx02:30
joshwhere02:30
joshwhere02:30
joshwhere02:30
joshlol02:30
marelocorvax, yes!!!! for a newbie like me02:30
corvaxits actually easier if you ask me02:30
joshtell meh where i get to sudo02:30
finalcuthas anyone here gotten a 3g ipod to work with Ubuntu?02:30
aeon17xOh wait, I think I got it wrong...02:30
joshipods should work my bro got his to02:30
darkangel_oh god why does my printer just keep printing blank pages02:30
corvaxeverything you should ever need will be in the repos if you stick to FREE software02:30
bimberiubotu tell josh about sudo02:31
Toma-josh: i told you.02:31
joshi left my connector cord a long time away from here02:31
finalcutmy shuffle works fine (usb) but my firewire one isn't doing anything.02:31
marelocorvax, well firefox 1.5 isn't hehe02:31
_jasontoya_, what are you doing?02:31
Eleafcorvax, there are some open source good stuff not in the repos = p02:31
flodinesoundray what do i name it02:31
mareloEleaf, well said02:31
dooglusice9: I do02:31
soundrayflodine, artwizfix :)02:31
Toma-marelo: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/02:31
joshwhere do i do these commands?02:32
ice9can you pls pm me02:32
dooglusice9: I think it comes as part of ubuntu02:32
toya__jason, want to figure out why i can't do gedit as a root02:32
Toma-josh: I TOLD YOU.02:32
ice9pls02:32
soundrayflodine, doesn't really matter, as long as the name reminds you of what it is.02:32
joshoh didn't see02:32
joshshoot02:32
joshlol02:32
joshnow... what's a terminal?02:32
_jasontoya_, are you actually logged in as root or just using sudo?  and 'gedit' should work02:32
Toma-josh: you in gnome?02:32
toya__jason, someone said something abt losing x vars or something02:32
ice9dooglus did you hear me02:32
toya__jason, sudo -i02:32
joshubuntu02:33
Eleafmarelo, = P02:33
dooglusice9: what is "pls pm me"?02:33
Toma-josh: Right.... well click Applications > Accesories > Terminal02:33
ice9so I can talk to you about chroot02:33
dooglusice9: I tried spell-checking it.  it came out as "piss on me".  I doubt that's what you meant though.02:33
corvaxanyone get that to load?http:// http://www.binrev.com:8000/main02:33
RotogHello everyon,  I am new to ubuntu and am trying to install vmware player from a tar ball...  I need to know where perl can be found...... to run the script.02:33
ice9can you please pm me02:33
joshthanks!02:33
_jasontoya_, just use sudo -s02:33
ice9instant message02:33
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dooglusice9: can we talk here?02:34
ice9private message02:34
ice9can just that theres a ton of people talking at once02:34
ice9anyway02:34
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Toma-Rotog: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8427502:34
toya__jason, hmm ok i'll read man sudo02:34
Toma-Rotog: follow that, and READ everything! :)02:34
Rotogthanks02:34
darkangel_can anyone help me figure out why my printer prints blank pages when i try to print a pdf02:34
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djk_is there any tool for linux to detect copy protection on audio cds?02:35
ice9ok I installed chroot now when I udo debootstrap --arch i386 hoary /chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunt02:35
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ice9It starts to config everything02:35
QRZRotog:  Do, "which perl" at the command line and that will give you the full path to it.02:35
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ice9then gets stuck on lvm common02:35
ice9any idea02:35
soundraydarkangel_, what type of printer?02:35
ice9how I can start from scratch02:35
ice9get rid of chroot and start over again02:35
dooglusjust remove the directory that it put everything into02:36
darkangel_its a hp officejet 725 that i use for work. i have just given up windows02:36
dooglusice9: did the new chroot get added to /etc/dchroot.conf?02:36
soundraydarkangel_, did you set it up through System-Administration-Printing?02:36
ice9yes02:37
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ice9I think its my fstab02:37
dooglusice9: so you'll need to remove it from there, and remove the directory that that file mentions as being the root of the chroot02:37
Victorjiangsystem/administration/networking ,error happened:fail to runnetwork-admin.th underlying authorization mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this program.contact the system administrator.  How could I solve this problem?02:37
dooglusice9: you think that /etc/dchroot.conf is your fstab?02:37
ice9is screwed up02:37
ice9no02:38
ice9./etc/fstab02:38
ice9is screwed up02:38
ice9from doing it before02:38
dooglusice9: you want to remove the "bind" lines then I guess02:38
DelvienQZR cool did a script to convert to Jpeg as well as one to convert to PNG02:38
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brian_im stuck and new to linux. im trying to install an mplayer rpm. synaptic does not seem to see the file on my desktop even if i search for it. any help would be great. any documentation ive read is vague to a newbie like me02:38
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_jasonubotu, tell brian_ about mplayer02:39
_jasonbrian_, don't use rpm's02:39
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ice9can I see your gedit /etc/fstab file pls02:39
ElitePetebrian_, .deb is your friend02:39
ice9just so I know its right02:39
soundrayflodine, how are you getting on?02:40
_jasonbrian_, mplayer is available in the repositories, ubotu sent you a link with instructions02:40
QRZDelvien:  Nice!  If you are interested in my virus scanner script for Nautilus, you can get it here ---> http://rob.pectol.com/myscripts/vscan  It requires Clam Anti-virus which can be easily gotten by doing, "sudo apt-get install clamav" at the command prompt.02:40
kacikebrian_: Synaptic will only see programs that you install using a .deb package02:40
cafuegoQRZ: isn't scanning for windows viruses in nautilus a tad pointless?02:40
dooglusice9: it's not a case of right or wrong.  you set your fstab up how you want it.  if you want parts of the parent filesystem mounted inside the chroot, you use a 'bind' line to make that happen02:41
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QRZcafuego:  Nope!02:41
DelvienQRZ no thank you , i find clam to be a pain in my arse, i dont use a virus scanner hehe :)02:41
dooglusice9: my fstab is specific to my system02:41
ubuntuhey again! I' tring to fix a friend's grub... I got an error 21 (???). I'm trying to do a chroot but I have no idea on where is his linux partition (neither does he)... How can I find out that?02:41
cafuegoQRZ: apart from that, good work :-)02:41
ice9see I'm going off of a tutorial from ubuntuforums02:41
ice9can I show you what mine looks like then02:41
QRZcafuego:  Many folks use linux boxes in conjunction with windows boxes.  It's nice to be able to scan files from within Linux.  :-)02:41
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cafuegoQRZ: Yeah, the mta does that here ;-)02:42
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cafuegoQRZ: You need to add a licence to teh script02:42
joshso now what02:42
QRZcafuego:  I have active virus scanning on my mailservers as well.02:42
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QRZcafuego:  GPL?02:42
joshwhat i type in from the terminal?02:42
cafuegoQRZ: You the author, you pick ;-)02:43
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soundrayubuntu, entering 'geometry (hd0)' in the grub shell should show you the partitions and their types.02:43
exiumDoes anyone here have time to explain to a newbie something about max resolution?02:43
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QRZcafuego:  GPL is what I usually put on my software.02:43
soundrayexium, nobody ever has time. Just ask your question anyway.02:43
DelvienQRZ any idea how to look up a Konquror script so i may use that script for nautilus?02:43
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joshhola?02:44
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wilymagehaha gimps02:44
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joshi'm lost, confused, and lonely02:44
QRZDelvien:  I wasn't aware that Konqueror had anything similar...02:44
keronjosh, what do you want to do?02:44
ordinaryim lost confused and lonely tooi02:44
joshkeron, i want to set my account to admin b/c my comp doesn't recognize me as one and it won't let me access any admin menus02:45
dooglusjosh: are you logged in as the very first account you created?02:46
joshyes02:46
dooglusjosh: in a terminal, run "groups".  what does that tell you?02:46
CaptainMorganwhat do I use to erase cds ?02:46
CaptainMorganprogram...02:46
CaptainMorganwhich One?02:46
ELpH95oanyone have a list of unofficial ubuntu apt-lists02:46
joshjosh adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner02:46
jendaCaptainMorgan: GnomeBaker02:47
TheCyrusHey can someone help me with instalation?02:47
corvaxgnomebaker or k3b02:47
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soundrayTheCyrus, nobody knows until you say what the problem is.02:47
dooglusjosh: looks like you're in group "adm" but not "admin".  could you have removed yourself from "admin" maybe?02:47
frogzooTheCyrus: asking to ask is spam - just leap in02:47
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joshyup, prolly02:48
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npfetanyone have a benq lcd?02:48
joshhow do i change it?02:48
TheCyrusok, sorry about that. When i try to install Breezy x86, I get past the paritioning02:48
TheCyrusbut everytime, i get a debootstrap error02:48
ubuntuhow can I wipe out the MBR????02:48
TheCyrusand i can't continue.02:48
sureshothey why wont my su password work as the main account created when enstaled02:48
CaptainMorgancheers02:48
dooglusjosh: in that case you'll have to add yourself back to you group.  you can't do that without rebooting into single-user mode02:48
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bimberiubotu tell sureshot about sudo02:48
ELpH95obtw in ubuntu can you use debian apt sites too?02:48
kargath64what's a bootstrap in linux anyway?02:48
frogzooTheCyrus: do you get an error or what?02:48
kargath64!sudo02:48
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dooglusjosh: once you've removed your right to be root, you no longer have permission to decide who can be root and who can't.02:49
bimberiELpH95o: no, use the ubuntu repositories02:49
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ELpH95oor use sources02:49
ELpH95oright?02:49
flodinesoundray wants me to save it to my home/bin dont got one02:49
Victorjiang system/administration/networking ,error happened:fail to runnetwork-admin.th underlying authorization mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this program.contact the system administrator.  How could I solve this problem?02:49
cafuegoELpH95o: You can use debian deb-src yes.02:49
alexandre_portugues?02:49
soundrayflodine, mkdir $HOME/bin02:49
cafuego!pt02:49
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.02:49
_jason!pt02:49
joshhow do i add myself back to my group or something?02:49
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joshu tell me what to do, i need to know HOW to do02:50
frogzoojosh: download "Recovery is Possible" - boot off it and edit the groups file02:50
dooglusjosh: do you use 'grub'?  if so, can you boot into rescue mode?  and if so, does that give you a root prompt?  if you get a root prompt, type "adduser josh admin" at it, hit return, and reboot into ubuntu proper.02:50
corvaxfdisk mbr02:50
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kargath64!bootstrap02:50
ubotukargath64: I don't know, could you explain it?02:50
cafuegojosh: boot in rescue mode. Run 'adduser username groupname'02:50
soundrayubuntulog, why erase MBR?02:50
alexandre_tem alguem pt-br?02:50
QRZSo it's true... ubotu is a female robot!02:50
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CaptainMorgantrying to blank a cd... getting permission denied.. how do give permission via the gui?02:50
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CaptainMorganwith gnomebaker02:50
joshadduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.02:51
dooglusjosh: read the whole sentence.02:51
keronjosh - thats why you need to reboot to rescue mode02:51
joshhow02:51
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joshis it an option when i boot up?02:51
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joshthere are many02:51
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cafuegojosh: Yes, it is.02:51
joshkk02:51
dooglusjosh: "rescue" should be one of them02:51
frogzoojosh: should be an option in the grub menu when you boot02:51
bimberijosh: yes - look for "recovery mode"02:51
dooglusok - recovery, yes02:52
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soundrayubuntu, why do you want to erase the MBR?02:52
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sureshotthanks guys will work on info given. if i can i will back with more questions. merry christmas02:53
CaptainMorgandah.... maybe I need to give sg0 permision..02:53
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cafuegoYou have an actual scsi cdrw?02:53
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flodinesoundray will it make a diffrence what wm im in02:54
CaptainMorgancafuego, to me?02:54
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cafuegoCaptainMorgan: yes02:55
soundrayflodine, yes. But every wm I know of lets you set a program to launch after login.02:55
soundrayflodine, what wm?02:55
CaptainMorganyes..02:55
flodinesoundray ob02:55
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cafuegoCaptainMorgan: Then yes, add yerself to the 'cdrom' group (I think)02:55
=== CaptainMorgan just gave it permission.
CaptainMorganworks02:56
CaptainMorganthanks02:56
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soundrayflodine, is that openbox? No idea how that is configured.02:56
flodinesoundray yeah02:57
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joshthanks for all ur help guys02:57
soundrayflodine, are you using it with Gnome?02:57
flodinesoundray openbox02:57
Victorjiang system/administration/networking ,error happened:fail to runnetwork-admin.th underlying authorization  mechanism(sudo) does not allow you to run this program.contact the system administrator.  How could I  solve this problem?02:57
ice9 No chroots found in config file '/etc/dchroot.conf'.02:57
soundrayflodine, are you using openbox with Gnome?02:58
ice9how do I fix that02:58
flodinesoundray no just ob02:58
dleIs anyone familiar with a buggy behaviour in breezy's gnome, where running an app from the panel creates an 'Authentication Required' dialogue?02:58
joshhow do i type in japanese now?02:58
sureshothey thanks that solved that problem02:59
_jasondle, what app?02:59
sureshotdoes anyone know how to compile and install gambas02:59
sureshoti keep erroring out02:59
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cafuego!info gambas02:59
ubotugambas: (Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 871 kB, Installed size: 2012 kB02:59
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soundrayflodine, http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php#602:59
dle_jason - Well it started with totem; then when I tried doing System->Take screenshot... again there.02:59
Xenguy!evolution03:00
ubotuNot a clue, Xenguy03:00
cafuegoWhy are you compiling it? Enable 'universe' and install it via synaptic.03:00
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dle_jason - http://bigstory.homelinux.org/tmp/wtf.png03:00
Xenguyriiiight03:00
sureshoti tride but it does not install03:00
sureshoti will try again though03:00
sureshotit does not show up on the menu03:00
cafuegoDoes not install giving WHAT error exactly?03:00
_jasondle, hrmm i've never seen that before.  My response was 'wtf' too03:00
dlenod :)03:00
sureshothang on03:01
sureshotdont want to past the who screen so here is on line of errors03:01
sureshotgbc: ERROR: Cannot open file: /opt/gambas/share/gambas/info/gb.net.curl.list03:01
sureshotCompiling Networking/HTTPPost/...03:01
_jasondle, running from terminal gives no problems?03:02
TheCyrusAnyone? I'm getting a debootstrap error while installing? any help?03:02
cafuego/opt?03:02
joshis there an IME thing for lnx?03:02
dle_jason - That's right.03:02
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cafuegosureshot: That's what you get when you run 'sudo apt-get install gambas' ?03:02
Toma-ime?03:02
soundrayTheCyrus, be more specific.03:02
joshlanguages, like typing in japanese03:02
sureshotyes after ./configure and make03:02
Toma-yep03:02
cafuegosureshot: No, you shall NOT run ./configure OR make.03:03
cafuegosureshot: gambas is precompiled for Ubuntu, there are packages.03:03
joshnevermind03:03
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sureshotok i iwll try again .... thanks for your help03:03
TheCyruswell, I'm using the Breezy x86 pressed cd, and i can partition the drives, but when it gets to the installing the base system, it always aborts because of a debootstrap error or what not. I've tried the remedies suggested by some at the forums by using a different cd (burned at low speeds) and a different CD drive, but everytime, i experience that problem.03:03
soundrayTheCyrus, with your description, it could be anything. You will have to report the actual error.03:04
Chris_Tuckerhow does one use networking sound?03:05
Chris_Tuckeror networked sound03:05
Chris_Tuckerwhatever it is03:05
Toma-Chris_Tucker: ONE WOULD USE ESD03:05
Toma-oops03:05
Toma-sorry03:05
soundrayTheCyrus, debootstrap could fail if your partition is too small, or if your HD is connected wrong, or...03:05
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soundrayTheCyrus, too many possibilities to list.03:05
Chris_TuckerToma- i mean to play sound on one computer, and have it come out of a different computers speakers?03:06
Chris_Tuckeresd does that/03:06
HighHopesHow can I add an user to a group from command line?03:06
TheCyrusWell, considering i only have 1 hard drive, and have allocated 15 GB, i don't think those may be much of an issue.03:06
Chris_Tucker?03:06
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Toma-Chris_Tucker: indeed.03:06
soundrayHighHopes, adduser user group03:06
Chris_TuckerToma- any special instructions?03:06
bimberiHighHopes: sudo adduser <user> <group>03:06
HighHopessoundray, bimberi : THANKS!03:06
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Toma-Chris_Tucker: "man esd"03:07
soundrayTheCyrus, I am just illustrating that you need to be specific.03:07
unfbuenas noches!03:07
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TheCyrusAnd i'm aware of that, and thanks, i was just wondering if there were any ways to fix it without having to go through the whole process again.03:07
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Chris_TuckerToma- that doesnt say how to network sound03:08
Toma-telkls you have to start esd as a server, and how to listen to ip's for a server03:08
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Chris_TuckerToma- then how do i connnect to a server03:09
Toma--tcp03:09
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RodrigoDLMhi there, Im new with Ubuntu, what laptop do you best recommend to install it?03:09
ELpH95onew with linux?03:10
sethkRodrigoDLM, I'hve had good results with several.  Do you already have a laptop?03:10
Chris_TuckerToma- intresting, one sec03:10
ELpH95omm..i'd say sony03:10
cafuegoRodrigoDLM: HP sells an Ubuntu laptop03:10
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sethkRodrigoDLM, I hate HP's keyboard.03:10
soundrayELpH95o, Sony is *so* out of favor...03:10
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sethkRodrigoDLM, better to pick a laptop that you like and investigate whether it is compatible03:11
Chris_TuckerToma-03:11
Chris_Tucker0% [ ]  44,746 547.37B/s ETA 8:17:1903:11
Chris_Tuckerer03:11
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cafuegoThere's a laptop page on the wiki too, actually.03:11
Chris_Tuckerwrong paste03:11
agorfhello. is it possible to install additional software when using the ubuntu live cd?03:12
Chris_TuckerToma- it says esd is already running and socket is already in use03:12
Toma-well, "killall esd"03:12
joshhow do i type in japanese or other languages???????????????????????03:12
Toma-iiimf03:12
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djk_http://pastebin.com/474503  could someone take a look and tell me what it's saying between track 14 &&15 ?03:13
cafuegoRodrigoDLM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Laptop&titlesearch=Titles03:13
bimberiagorf: sure, limited by ramdisk capacity though03:13
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agorfbimberi, like python libraries and subversion? any urls?03:13
RodrigoDLMI would like a Laptop that gets the best out od 5.1003:14
Toma-bbl03:14
Ep|phanyis there anything i could install that uses less resources then gnome?03:14
cafuegoRodrigoDLM: Yes, check the page I posted, it has links to LOTS of info.03:14
soundrayEp|phany, check out xubuntu-desktop03:14
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bimberiagorf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/03:15
RodrigoDLMthanks guys03:15
Ep|phanysoundray: you think ill beable to get better battery life03:15
joshhlp03:15
soundrayEp|phany, if you get swapping activity with Gnome, then yes.03:16
bimberiagorf: or, modify sources.list and install using apt-get/synaptic ...03:16
bimberiubotu tell agorf about sources03:16
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agorfbimberi, you are talking about the livecd right?03:16
bimberiagorf: yep, mind you i've never done it - and any changes won't be permanent of course03:17
agorfbimberi, ok thanks :)03:17
bimberiagorf: np :)03:18
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agorfbimberi, one more thing. is there a detailed list of the packages included in the livecd 5.10?03:19
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DelvienANYONE know how to add a music file to your AMAROK playlist using a SCRIPT  http://pastebin.com/474508 thats what i got03:20
FrooGood evening, good people. Do any of you have any skill troubleshooting Ubuntu sound?03:20
martianpenguinhey, is it possible to install the 2.6.15 kernel image instead of compiling from source?03:20
martianpenguinFroo, if it's like other linux sound then sure03:20
jsgotangcomartianpenguin, its already the test kernel in dapper03:21
martianpenguinjsgotangco, so how would i do it in breezy?03:21
jsgotangcoahh tricky03:21
martianpenguinjsgotangco, i don't want to update everything, just the kernel03:21
mrkojewhere is the dictionary file in ubuntu?03:21
joshanyone wanna help ? ;-D03:21
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martianpenguinjosh, with what?03:22
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sethkjosh, when nobody answers, nobody knows the answer to your question03:22
Chris_TuckerToma- when i start esd with -tcp, it doesnt recognize the ip i input for a computer to connect to03:22
joshsetting it up so i can type in different language's character sets03:22
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Froomartianpenguin: Great. What would you try first if you got this error from xmms? - "Couldn't open audio - Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly You have the correct output plugin selected No other program is blocking the soundcard"03:22
bimberiagorf: i don't know of one on the 'net sorry - though you could use "dpkg -l" to list them while running the CD03:22
KnowerrorsAnbody know a website that suggests a username based on personal questions?03:22
Chris_TuckerToma- how do i really connect to a remote computer to play that computers sound? its already running a server on a port03:23
MoonRangerwhere in Synaptic .. can i find a screen reader (for blind/visually impaired users)03:23
martianpenguinFroo, how about alsamixer, does that work... (that is if it's used in ubuntu)03:23
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Toma-Chris_Tucker: no idea03:24
DelvienDapper install 100%better than breezy was03:24
agorfbimberi, thx :>03:24
Toma-havent done it before. but esd is the way to go. try finding a howto on it03:24
Chris_TuckerToma- so you led me into a wild goose chase?03:24
Chris_TuckerToma-: that doesnt usually help people03:24
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Froomartianpenguin: I don't have that program, and I cannot find it with apt.03:25
Toma-Chris_Tucker: i pointed you in the right direction03:25
Toma-anyway. bbl.03:25
martianpenguinis there a way to tell apt-get or the other package managers that I want to install a test version of one program but no otehrs?03:25
liableMoonRanger: check out festival, dunno if it does exactly what you are after though.03:25
martianpenguinFroo, interesting, which version of ubuntu are you running, im using a pretty fresh install and it works fine for me03:26
pashawagorf, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.list03:26
Kuyaedzdoes anyone have suggestions for setting up Thunderbird (or Evolution) with an msn.com email account?03:26
Froomartianpenguin: Version 5.0403:26
liableKuyaedz: you prolly want hotwayd03:26
martianpenguinKuyaedz, is msn.com a pop email?03:26
bimberiMoonRanger: i got screader and yasr (amongst others) with a 'screen reader' search in Synaptic (Name & Description)03:26
MoonRangerok03:27
LukianMoonRanger: screader and yasr show up in mine (with universe and multiverse)03:27
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Kuyaedzmartianpenguin: as far as I know hotmail & msn are proprietary MS crap but I've heard it can be done..03:27
martianpenguinKuyaedz, oh, im not familiar with it then03:27
martianpenguinFroo, is that breezy badger?03:28
liableKuyaedz: hotmail can be retrieved with hotwayd, sent (supposedly) with hotsmtp..03:28
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Froomartianpenguin: Hoary03:28
martianpenguinFroo, I'm new to ubuntu... but alsa should be the same on all distros03:28
Kuyaedzmartianpenguin: yeah, if its standard pop3 I'd have no problem.. its the proprietary non-interoperable MS protocols that are getting me03:28
agorfpashaw, gr8 thanks :)03:28
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martianpenguinKuyaedz, I would search google then03:28
pashawagorf, np  :P03:28
martianpenguinKuyaedz, or check if there is anything on mozilla's site or forums03:29
martianpenguinKuyaedz, maybe a plugin03:29
XenguyAnyone use Evolution to fetch Exchange mail?  Is evolution still unstable?03:29
bimberiMoonRanger: gnopernicus looks more promising too - and is integrated with the System -> Preferences -> Assistive Technology Support menu item03:29
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agorfwhat a pitty. i only miss subversion :/03:29
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bimberiKuyaedz: gotmail or hotway might be worth a try03:31
martianpenguinFroo, do you not have all the repositories enabled?03:31
martianpenguinFroo, alsamixer is not a new program03:31
frogzooXenguy: to get evolution to work with exchange, it seems you need the exchange admin's cooperation to get it set up03:31
Kuyaedzbimberi: thanks03:32
martianpenguinFroo, and if it's not working, then your sound definitely won't work03:32
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Xenguyfrogzoo: I tried once today and got it working, but haven't had much of a chance to play yet03:32
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pashawagorf, what do you mean? subversion 1.20 can be added through Synaptic03:32
Xenguyfrogzoo: it doesn't seem an admin is necessary in my situation tho03:32
pashawagorf, sorry subversion 1.2.003:32
FrooI don't have alsamixer on my machine.03:32
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sureshotok i am back. reinstalled gambas from the repository it does not show up on programing menu.   i am so new at this all i am trying03:32
martianpenguinFroo, do you use alsa for sound?03:33
FrooIt's cool - I have someone here helping me now.03:33
martianpenguink03:33
FrooThanks.03:33
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agorfpashaw, ill be working with live cd03:33
meepyAs a linux newbie, and shell scripting - what is the variable to echo the dir you are in?03:33
aeon17xpwd03:33
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aeon17xEr... maybe not.03:33
martianpenguindoes any one know if there is another channel for development stuff like dapper?03:33
ice9I need to change back my locales from utf8  to ISO how do I DO THAT03:33
aeon17xBut it does show what dir you're in.03:33
Xenguycwd ?03:34
meepypwd!03:34
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ice9also does ubuntu have a recovery program03:34
ice9if YOUR system is screwed up03:34
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martianpenguinice9, screwed up in what way?03:35
blankyhey guys, I'm going to resize my partitions, but I have these three partitions; / - ext2 - primary, extended - primary, linux swap - logical03:35
blankynow, i know i leave the swap alone03:35
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ice9my locales03:35
blankybut then wtf with extended? and i resize ext2 right?03:35
ice9i can't use gtk now03:35
ice9I tried to install iglooftp03:36
aeon17xblanky: what are you going to use to resize your partitions?03:36
ice9and got a alot of errors03:36
martianpenguinice9, i was experiencing errors with that before... but it didn't seem to actually effect anything03:36
blankyim using partition magic (windows)03:36
ice9it won't even run03:36
ice9can I show you the errors03:36
MoonRanger!kde03:36
ubotuI guess kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:36
sureshotdoes any one know why a package installed by snyaptic does not show up on the poper menu ... (gambas) do i need to recompile do i need to do somthing else .. i am a newbie please help03:37
martianpenguinice9, yeah, is there a flood channel?03:37
Hoxzerweee neeed more jelppa03:37
ice9no I can just pm it to you03:37
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martianpenguinor that03:37
ice9k one sec03:37
liable#flood?03:37
martianpenguinidk, i didn't remember if this was the server that had that03:38
cafuegosureshot: Open a ternimal window,s type 'gambas' and hit return.03:38
SealyDavedownloaded sun package got; dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)03:38
SealyDavedpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 203:38
SealyDavedpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb (--install):03:38
SealyDave subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 203:38
SealyDaveErrors were encountered while processing:03:38
SealyDave sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb03:38
martianpenguinor if all servers do that03:38
sureshotok trying03:38
cafuegoSealyDave: disk full?03:38
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SealyDaveno 2 gb free03:38
cafuego/tmp full?03:38
sureshoti get the following error03:39
bimberisureshot: yes, some packages don't create menu entries.  If nothing has appeared in the Applications Menu for Gambas then you can create an entry using Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor03:39
sureshotsizeof(CLASS) = 256 !03:39
sureshotERROR: #51: Bad archive: Invalid argument03:39
SealyDavethought temp did not have limit03:39
frogzooSealyDave: df -k03:39
CaptainMorgananybody recommend a better ftp program than gftp ?03:39
cafuegoSealyDave: That depends on where it is.03:39
sureshotit is already there is the issue03:39
sureshotin the menu editor03:39
bimberiCaptainMorgan: Nautilus (via Places -> Connect to Server)03:39
SealyDaveFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on03:39
SealyDave/dev/hda1              5953436   2503264   3147752  45% /03:39
SealyDavetmpfs                    63472         0     63472   0% /dev/shm03:39
SealyDavetmpfs                    63472     12588     50884  20% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-3803:39
martianpenguinCaptainMorgan, ftp03:39
Madpilot!tell SealyDave about pastebin03:40
cafuegoPlease don't paste blocks of output.03:40
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jordo23_Any good P2P platforms for Ubuntu?03:41
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Madpilotjordo23: Gnome BitTorrent is included by default...03:41
frogzoojordo23_: azureus03:41
aTypicalHello All03:41
randabis!p2p03:41
ubotuwell, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo03:41
martianpenguinjordo23_, bittorrent03:41
Hoxzerer... platform?03:41
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Hoxzerwell you can "translate" DC++03:41
ice9martian turn off your spam block03:41
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jordo23_Is the Ubuntu version of BitTorrent any good? Or is there something better?03:41
MoonRanger!kde03:41
ubotuhmm... kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:41
SealyDaveso yeah03:41
SealyDavehi03:41
Hoxzerjordo23_: azureus03:42
martianpenguinice9, i have spam block on?03:42
ice9yeah03:42
Hoxzeror bittornado03:42
martianpenguinice9, how do i turn it off, i'm using all defaults in this client03:42
jordo23_Hoxzer: Is there a package for Azureus?03:42
cafuegoice9: freenode has it enabled. register with nickserv.03:42
frogzoo!tell jordo23_ about azureus03:42
martianpenguinice9, yeah, you can't pm unless you're registered03:42
ice9k03:42
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Hoxzerjordo23_: yes, but I didn't got update work with it so I installed it form tar.gz03:42
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cafuegoice9: So in effect: stop being spam, and you won't be blocked ;-)03:43
Hoxzerjust extract the tar and then in azureus folder "./azureus" and azureus will start03:43
meepyIs this correct? : exec gnome-terminal --working-directory=%PWD ----- It should exec gnome-terminal in the folder where you click the script03:43
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blankyhey guys what do I need extended for? ubuntu created it03:43
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blankyguys, what do i need extended partition for?03:43
aTypicalHow do I fix and/or workaround this error? E: /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 103:43
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cafuegoaTypical: Scroll up and find the actual error.03:44
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mindtriggerz[h1hi dave6218903:44
aTypicalblanky, because you can only have so many primary partitions.03:44
dave62189mindtriggerz03:44
adrochello peeps03:44
aTypicalcafuego, I'm using synaptic and that's the only message that shows.03:44
blankyHey guys! What do I need partition ex... aTypical thanks03:44
SealyDavehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601003:44
adroccan someone help me03:44
blankyAtypical, so I must keep it?03:44
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adroccan u install .deb packages on ubuntu?03:44
aTypicalblanky, what's on it?03:44
blankyyeah, most of the times03:45
martianpenguinadroc, yeah03:45
blankyaTypical, nothing that i know of ....03:45
jasonjdplol, ive been having trouble with my onboard audio. and aparently the jumpers where turned off on the mobo.  if i switch the jumpers will ubuntu auto recognize the onboard audio (hopefully) or is a recompile needed?03:45
blankywhat's on your extended, aTypical03:45
adrocbecause im trying to install nessus 303:45
bimberiblanky: iirc, the swap partition will be created within the primary exteded partition03:45
blankybimberi, really? Cause my swap partition is seperate03:45
adrocbut im getting an error03:45
aTypicalblanky, you create partitions for data on your system.  Did you create the partitions or did the system do it for you?03:45
blankyaTypical, the 'system'/ubuntu did it for me03:46
blankyautomatically03:46
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bimberiblanky: they look separate yes03:46
aTypicalblanky, then do not remove them.03:46
blankyso I have 36 gigs of primary ext2, 1.4 gigs of exended primary, and 1.4 gigs of swap03:46
bimberiblanky: are they the same size?03:46
fit4lfemartian you get the msg ?03:46
blankybimberi yeah!03:46
bimberiblanky: ah ha!03:46
Chris_TuckerOMG!03:46
blankybimberi so they're necessary right?03:46
blankylol03:46
jordo23_How do you tell which version of Ubuntu you are running in command line?03:46
Chris_Tuckerive figured out netwokred sound03:46
bimberiblanky: yep03:46
SealyDaveso yeah can i get some help with my sun java instal please?03:47
bimberijordo23_: lsb_release -a03:47
Chris_Tuckerexport ESPEAKER=server:port03:47
Chris_TuckerYAY03:47
jasonjdpif you add a soundcard, do you need to recompile to detect it?03:47
adrocd03:47
jordo23_bimberi thanks03:48
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adrochas anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?03:48
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bimberijordo23: np :)03:48
adroci have 2.x already but want to upgrade03:48
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SealyDaveanyone?03:48
adroccan anyone help03:49
sureshotok i totaly romoved gampas from my system. i am going to download it and reinstall it ... should i use add applications or snyaptic ....03:49
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martianpenguinSealyDave, what was your error?03:49
Madpilotsureshot: either - they use the same back-end03:49
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martianpenguinSealyDave, you have to download the files from sun's site right?03:49
adrocanyone03:49
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pashawSealyDave, you could use Automatix for that program03:50
sureshotok .. after install. if it is not in the menu how do i start the program .. do i go to a term and just type gambas. i cant seem to find wear it is installed at03:50
SealyDavehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601203:50
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CaptainMorgan!ftp03:51
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, CaptainMorgan03:51
CaptainMorgandamn..03:51
CaptainMorganstumped the bot... legitimately..03:51
alphywhere do I get the plugins to play my mp3's?03:51
bimberialphy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:52
SealyDaveanyone?03:53
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danhey, I am not getting any lights on my wireless card03:54
dani know that the card is at least recognized03:54
martianpenguindan, neither am I03:54
daemonicwhee03:54
sureshotsorry to sound like a broken record but does anyone here know how to get gambas to run. i cant find it or seem to run it form a term03:54
SealyDavepee pee for bung hole03:54
bimberisureshot: yes, if it's not in the menu you can start it from the a terminal (or create a menu entry) - "dpkg -L gambas" will show you what files were installed03:54
sureshotthanks that is new info03:55
daemonicwho here is running the x86 64bit?03:55
bimberisureshot: or try 'dpkg -L gambas | grep bin' to see what executables were installed03:55
frogzooSealyDave: file sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb   ?03:56
danI'm not getting any power to my wireless card03:56
SealyDaveyeah03:56
martianpenguinhey what was that list of packages for ubuntu in the repositories03:56
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cafuegodaemonic: I was until last friday.03:56
satoshihail03:56
frogzooSealyDave: I mean, u sure it's a .deb - not a .deb.gz etc03:56
dando you know how to turn on the wireless card?03:56
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bimberimartianpenguin: http://packages.ubuntu.com03:57
SealyDavehttp://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/i386/03:57
daemoniccafuego: what made you stop using it?03:57
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cafuegodaemonic: Lack of support for media03:57
redvelvetdan, you just started didnt you?03:57
danyeah, I did03:57
redvelvetdan, are you gay?03:57
daemoniccafuego: hmm, like?03:57
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danjust installed a few minutes ago03:57
cafuegodaemonic: video, flash, java03:57
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daemoniccafuego: hmm, you mean no video?03:57
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cafuegodaemonic: Well, MPEGs played, but couldn't be resized. Not much luck with xvids & oggs.03:58
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redvelvetdan, im just kidding03:58
cafuegodaemonic: For a server, 64bit is fine. I don't think it's ready yet for day-to-day desktop use.03:58
bimberinice one redvelvet03:58
triceratopsDid anyonne succeed adding a podcast URL to Rhythmbox 0.9.2? I always get an error message 'Error in podcqast \n (null)'03:58
jordo23_Does apt have a command to install all dependant packages automatically?  I know it's supposed to be automatic, but I get messages stating that a dependant package exists but "Is not going to be installed."03:58
sureshotfound it in /usr/bin   when i type gambas i get sizeof(class) = 256 error # 51 bad archive : invalid argument03:58
daemoniccafuego: wow that sucks. I just bought this amd 64 and installed ubuntu (only 64bit dist I had around) and was hoping it'd all work.03:59
redvelvetbimberi, sorry, i was just messing with a friend03:59
daemoniccafuego: guess I was wrong03:59
frogzooSealyDave: wonders if you 1st executed this step 'sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common'03:59
bimberiredvelvet: ah03:59
cafuegodaemonic: Well, you can make it work with a 32bit chroot, but that's more hassle than its worth too.03:59
redvelvetcan anyone help me out with a wireless card03:59
cafuegodaemonic: Make sure you have /home on a separate partition and upgrading becomes an easy matter.03:59
SealyDaveyeah done that, follwed all protocols on wiki restricted packages03:59
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daemoniccafuego: yeah. damn, that whole 32bit chroot sounds like more trouble than it's worth.04:00
jordo23_anyone?04:00
cafuegoBueller?04:00
SealyDavefakeroot is already the newest version.04:00
SealyDavejava-package is already the newest version.04:00
SealyDavejava-common is already the newest version.04:00
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cafuegojordo23_: That indicates you're missing one of the repositories, like say multiverse or universe.04:01
jordo23_cafuego: can I post my sources.list file somewhere and have you look at it?04:01
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satoshiguys, I've followed this wiki ( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29 ) on how to setup ndiswrapper so I could use my linksys wusb11, everything okay, and I added 'ndiswrapper' to the modules under etc/modules, now everytime Ubuntu starts to load, on that part "Calculating Module Dependencies etc..." it gives an error relationed with the ndiswrapper module, and it stops there, the system doesn't loads :S I could fix it if 04:02
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cafuegojordo23_: If you have a web browser, I expect you can, yes.04:02
daemoniccafuego: don't suppose you know off hand if there's any chance of my nvidia card working in 64?04:02
jordo23_cafuego: where do you want me to post it?04:02
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cafuegodaemonic: Yes, they work fine in x6404:02
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daemoniccafuego: ahh, good.04:02
cafuego!paste04:02
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text04:03
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alphywhy is the terminal telling me" Package j2re1.4 is not available"?04:03
sureshotdoes anyone know if gambas is x64 compatible04:03
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cafuego!info j2re1.404:03
ubotuj2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB04:03
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martianpenguinsureshot, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gambas&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all04:04
cafuegoalphy: Note 'multiverse'.04:04
sureshotaging thinks and sorry for sounding like a broken record. just get this to run arg04:04
odathi everyone04:05
SealyDavetake me to your leader04:05
jsgotangcobwahah04:05
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fushilol04:05
cafuegoSealyDave: I'm already here.04:05
bimberiheh04:05
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jordo23_cafuego: I posted it.04:05
bimberi:)04:05
SealyDavek, im anti linux right now, help04:05
jsgotangcoall hail cafuego04:05
blankyxubuntu-desktop is my packge if i want fluxbox right?04:05
cafuegojordo23_: Mind sharing the link? :-)04:05
SealyDavei need some java04:05
blankyguys?04:05
blankyguys if i want fluxbox i get xubuntu-desktop right?04:06
cafuegoblanky: No.04:06
cafuegoblanky: xubuntu uses xfce404:06
mrkojeSealyDave,  what could possibly be wrong?!04:06
blankythen just sudo apt-get install fluxbox?04:06
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blankycafuego: okay04:06
SealyDavedont knwo04:06
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jordo23_cafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601404:06
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odatanyone really know what program is best for windows media?04:06
sergjust installed kubuntu (breezy, well reinstalled) i have a new gfx card (nvidia geforce 5200), reboot - fine, but when i do apt-get upgrade on a vanilla system and then try to reboot i get a system freez  during booting stage - it freezes on a line "checking battery status"  any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it?04:06
cafuegojordo23_: Yep, that looks fine. Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install j2re1.4'04:07
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alphycafuego, I have multiverse enabled04:07
kakeihi,hey if i download a font front dafont.com where i have to unzip it to use it04:07
SealyDavejava is fun, lick my bum, fun fun fun, yum yum yum04:08
Delvienhow do i add emifreqd daemon to autostart upon bootup04:08
jordo23_cafuego: it says it can't find the package j2rel.404:09
SealyDavehow do i install java and pretend im not dumb04:09
frogzoo!tell SealyDave about java04:09
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SealyDavedone. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601204:11
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SealyDavestanding by..04:11
pashawSealyDave, i already told you  you could use Automatix04:11
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SealyDavehow04:11
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blankyhey guys, how can I run the x window manager (such thing?)04:12
blankyx window system or whatever04:12
odatSealyDave, have you ever used synaptic?04:12
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SealyDavergr04:12
blankyin other words, not gnome/kde/fluxbox/blackbox etc.04:12
bimberi!automatix04:12
ubotumethinks automatix is crap04:12
Delvienhow do i add emifreqd daemon to autostart upon bootup04:12
nuxGuruneed to exit Xserver to build and install Nvidia driver .. how do I ?04:12
Kyralblanky: X is the underlying thing of GNOME/KDE/Fluxbox04:13
blankylol why is autoamtix crap04:13
blankyKyral, I know that04:13
intelikeyblanky xdm ?04:13
odatnuxGuru, why do you need to build the video driver?04:13
blankybut isn't there also xwindows or wahtever, like, when it doesn, yeah i think that, intelikey04:13
blankyI mean how there's sometimes windows with no themes04:13
bimberimethinks that factoid needs a bit more detail04:13
sethkblanky, You can run X with just a window manager04:13
blankynvm it's hard to explain04:13
Kyralblanky: XDM/GDM/KDM just provide login managers04:13
Kyralblanky: TWM?04:13
sethkblanky, technically, it isn't really different than running a desktop04:13
mrkojescrew automatix....04:14
intelikeyblanky icewm   or twm04:14
sethkblanky, although operationally of course it is much more difficult04:14
pashawSealyDave, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656304:14
blankyKyral, I know, man i dont know how to explain it :'(04:14
blankylike, you know how there's themes for window managers04:14
blankyso it affects the appearnace04:14
sethkblanky, as noted, twm, icewm, there is also fvwm, mwm (motif)04:14
Kyraltwm is literally just multiple XTerms open on one screen04:14
sethkblanky, lesstif, the motif clone, is lower overhead than even a small desktop like fluxbox, but a cut above twm04:14
blankysometimes theres windows that have no theme, and look old with the weird scroll bars (pointy), and no x button, well it does have an x button but it looks different04:14
jordo23_cafuego: you there?04:15
sethkKyral, no, that isn't quite true.  the window manager does more than that04:15
Daemoniccafuego: damn. this sucks. you're right. media support blows.04:15
Kyralblanky: sudo apt-get install twm and see if thats it04:15
nuxGuruodat .. I do not have accss via Ubutu ..yet.. and and was trying to manually install the nvidia driver and appropiate drivers to get modem going04:15
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blankyi dont know, Kyral, I doubt it. It's something normal, just an xwindow04:15
intelikeyblanky sounds like twm04:15
sethkblanky, whether or not there is a pluggable theme for a particular window manager depends on how the windoe manager is architected.04:16
blankynot GTK, not QT, etc.04:16
blankysethk, yeah i dont mean that though04:16
blankywatch i'll try to find a picture04:16
odatnuxGuru, do you mean that you can not get to the desktop yet because your nvidia driver isn't working?04:16
sethkblanky, twm, mwm, etc., don't require gtk or qt04:16
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blankyalmost looks like twm04:16
sethkblanky, you do need a minimal window manager running04:16
sethkblanky, twm looks just like twm04:17
nuxGuruodat .. no... am accessing web via windows..  booting Ubuntu takes me to the graphic interface04:17
intelikey:)04:17
sethkblanky, it's amazing  :)04:17
Kyralvtwm?04:17
blankymwm is different, no wiat, man they both look like what i meant, twm looks more like it though04:17
blankyvtwm? let me see04:17
sethknuxGuru, boot into single user mode.  It won't start the gui and you'll be able to install nvidia drivers04:17
sethkblanky, you mean fvwm04:17
Kyralctwm?04:17
jordo23_Does anyone know why I get dependency errors when my sources.list looks like this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601404:17
blankyyeah i think it's vtwm, i mainly look at the top right corner of the window, the weird buttons04:17
nuxGuruI tried that  and failed ..04:18
sethknuxGuru, what happened?04:18
kakeihi,hey if i download a font front dafont.com where i have to unzip it to use it04:18
blankynah not fvwm, i guess it's twm04:18
odatnuxGuru, the appropriate drivers were probably installed when the system was installed04:18
blankyyeah it looks like twm04:18
nuxGuruam an ex Unix guru from the 80s .. so much of what I look at today is obscure04:18
sethkjordo23, whatever dependency errors you get are not caused by that repository configuration04:18
blankybrb guys, thanks04:18
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intelikeyi believe twm was the default 'failsafe kind' of wm that x used to always install.... xfree86 that is.04:18
jordo23_sethk: what's wrong with it?04:19
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nuxGuruthe system wants to run my video at 50Hz .. and have not figured out a way to gt it higher ..so was thinking it was the video driver04:19
Nebularon boot I'm getting a kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task04:20
pashawnuxGuru, have you read the help page?  System-> Help (look at bottom) Starter Guide -> (left pane click Hardware)04:20
sethkjordo23, nothing04:20
NebularI have no idea what that means and google hasn't been much help04:20
sethkintelikey, that's was true a while ago, although fvwm is much closer to a usable window manager (IMHO) and is/was available with the xfree distribution without any additional desktop stuff.04:20
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nuxGuruhave read alot .... is this on the system or atr ubuntu web page04:20
jordo23_sethk: what should I do?04:20
pashawnuxGuru, you Ubuntu desktop menu04:21
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SealyDavehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6015  and then nothing04:21
nuxGuruk thanks.. another question04:21
sethkjordo23, first, tell us what error you are getting04:21
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bluefoxicyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/T6F5I721.html04:21
bluefoxicyRead 'em and weep.04:21
bluefoxicyTests on Dapper.  :)04:21
nuxGuruam trying to get pengaol installed.. fails to install normally .. so attempt to compile and install .. this also fails.. any hints ?04:22
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sethknuxGuru, nobody can possibly help you without the _exact_ error message you get, and without knowing exactly what you were doing when the error occured04:23
jordo23_sethk:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601604:23
ptolobluefoxicy: you did read a recent series of posts on planet.gnome.org regarding memory usage (and measuring that) in gnome apps?04:23
sethkjordo23, that says, simply, that it does not know of a package named j2rel.4.  That is possibly because there is no such package.  Where did you get that name?  you should use synaptic, and do a search for packages with java in the description and/or j2 in the name04:24
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frogzoo!tell sethk about java04:24
sethkfrogzoo, don't tell me, I'm not installing java04:24
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nuxGurupeng aol error : kernel30.h:152:error!  ... more>'04:25
sethk!tell jordo23_ about java04:25
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nuxGuruISO C++ forbids declaration of 'CAolCmd30' with no type04:26
sethknuxGuru, don't show us half an error and then one typed line04:26
sethknuxGuru, that is an error in the source code04:26
sethknuxGuru, although probably you aren't telling us the first error04:26
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sethknuxGuru, all errors after the first error are meaningless.  there is probably a header file not found, or an error in the header file that would be defining that type04:26
martianpenguini just installed the 2.6.15 kernel... and my touchpad stopped working... has anyone else had this problem?04:27
nuxGuruthat is all the error .. is also followed by several "" expected ';'' before '*' token.. then exits make04:27
sethknuxGuru, so capture the _entire_ output, put it on a paste bot, and then give us here the url to the pastebot04:27
bluefoxicyptolo:  nope04:27
jordo23_sethk: I am trying to install azureus and I get unmet dependencies when processing the dpkg file.....  this is what happened...    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601704:27
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nuxGuruwhat is a past bot?04:27
rikaierr, what's the best way to install kde on a normal ubuntu install (non-kubuntu)...?04:27
jordo23_rikai: apt-get install kde04:28
rikaijordo23, not kubuntu-desktop?04:28
pashawrikai, either  your command installs all kde apps with it04:28
sethkjordo23, that lists a number of packages that may be missing.  The name you came up with before doesn't appear in that list at all.04:28
Tobaargh04:28
frogzoo!tell nuxGuru about pastebin04:28
Tobaeye of gnome is broken in 5.1004:29
bluefoxicyptolo:  I did a full system measure04:29
Tobait crashes when you use it to delete a file04:29
sethkjordo23, that looks like java/swing development libraries, and java/swing/gtk support is missing04:29
ptolobluefoxicy: uhh...i can't find the post right now ... the problem is not in measuring, its in defining what exactly you measure04:29
nuxGuruI am not afraid to read stuff.. just need to get pointed in right direction04:29
jordo23_sethk: someone else told me to install that package. what do I do? When I try to apt for the dependent packages, it says the other are missing dependants.04:29
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sethkjordo23, It says you are trying to replace azureus.  (this may be because of an earlier partial install.)  I thing the first thing to do is to try to remove azureus.  That may get you back to a state where it can automatically find and install the dependencies.04:30
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ptolobluefoxicy: 'free' doesn't report how much memory is free actually - you may have cached data in memory that actually isn't using it (and will be purged when needed), also when you look at the memory consumption on per-process basis, you can see that many programs/libraries mmap files (icons, themes, etc), which gets marked as memory usage but actually isn't (its the file on the disk), ....04:31
sethkjordo23, you can do what it suggests in the error message, which is to force the install even without meeting the depedencies, but that's usually a bad idea04:31
bluefoxicyptolo:  did you even read the paste?04:31
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ptolobluefoxicy: so it's kinda hard to determine the correct value; that said, you do have a point about gnome being a bit over-hungry (in both memory and cpu sense :)04:31
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ptolobluefoxicy: yes04:31
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bluefoxicyptolo:  I cut out the disk cache because it's treated as free memory when memory runs low anyway.04:31
sethkjordo23, it believes that everything is already installed, and it only needs to configure, but that's obviously not the case.04:32
dkelsonI'm trying to install Dapper FT2 on my AMD64 box with an Areca RAID controller. I can't find the arcmsr kernel module, although a post on ubuntu-devel someone said the driver was there. Help?04:32
ilpavoxhave a fresh ubuntu install.  used apt to change to xdm, now it won't start x at all unless i am in root, or change to kdm or gdm.  anyone have this problem?04:32
sethkjordo23, by removing first, I'm hoping that it will realize it has to install, and then it will do the normal thing which is to also install required dependencies04:32
bimberijordo23_: btw, what are you running ubuntu on?04:32
seanhammond_Hi - I just installed Hula as per the instructions on the wiki, and when I try to visit localhost.localdomain port 89 or 8080 I get Connection Refused. If I run hulamanager it outputs 'Hula web administration server not configured; skipping', anyone know what the problem is?04:32
jordo23_bimberi: dell laptop.04:33
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bimberijordo23: ok (so i386)04:33
jordo23_sethk: is there an apt package for Azureus? If so I can't find it.04:33
taydadHow do I switch from ubuntu to edubuntu?04:34
dkelsonIs there a newer install ISO than the FT2 iso?04:34
superneodoes any1 know how to install oddcastv3-jack-3.1.6tar.gz04:34
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bimberitaydad: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop04:34
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Tobafor synaptic to do a force version downgrade, I need to have backports right?04:35
VictorjiangHow can I start snmp service? I don't find a service command.04:35
ilpavoxanyone see my question04:35
eclairilpavox: i haven't had that problem :(04:36
Tobailpavox: what was it?04:36
bimberidkelson: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/04:36
ilpavoxtoba: have a fresh ubuntu install.  used apt to change to xdm, now it won't start x at all unless i am in root, or change to kdm or gdm.04:36
Tobahrm, I dunno04:36
Tobanever had that problem04:36
Toba(I just read up and saw it)04:36
ilpavoxgah04:36
Tobasorry :(04:36
intelikeysuperneo source tarball    unpack (tar -xzf)  read the docs, and probably  ./configure && make && sudo make install04:36
Tobahrm I really dislike the new version of eye of gnome04:36
taydadThanks I will look into it and get back to you if I have more Qs.04:36
Tobacrashes, slow, and spams the terminal04:37
frogzooilpavox: mebbe make the x server suid - but it's not necessary04:37
Toba:(04:37
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Tobawho develops eog, the gnome people?04:37
MadpilotToba: try gThumb04:37
Tobagthumb eh?04:37
dkelsonbimberi: thanks!04:37
MadpilotI like it better than eog, although the version in breezy has one really irritating bug...04:38
TobaI really like eye of gnome though04:38
dkelsonbimberi, where can I get a list of kernel modules included with the daily install ISO?04:39
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sethkjordo23, now you've lost me.  The apt package for azureus is listed in the thing you put on the pastebot04:39
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brennerToba: pic mgrs? i'm a big fan of gqview04:40
bimberidkelson: sorry, i don't know04:40
frenchyhey does anyone know how to get the gstreamer in amarok to play mp3s04:40
Tobabrenner: I don't want to manage my photos with it, I wrote some scripts for that that do exactly what I need04:40
aTypicalfrenchy, I believe that's covered in the Ubuntu Wiki04:40
bimberidkelson: have a browse via http://packages.ubuntu.com - you might find something there04:40
Tobaall I want to do is slideshows and simple rotating and deleting04:40
frenchyok04:40
TobaI found the bug report in the gnome bug tracker though04:41
Tobasomebody already submitted it04:41
Toba:/04:41
aTypicalfrenchy, have you read it?  I'm new so don't take what I say as the gospel.04:41
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brennerToba: you should be happy.  that saves you doing it :)04:41
TobaI know!04:42
VictorjiangHow can I start snmp service? I don't find a service command.04:42
TobaI just wonder how to confirm the report04:42
rcmivi have the nvidia-legacy drivers installed and enabled, splashscreen comes up, but openGL is not working...?04:42
Tobasince it's exactly what I have04:42
rcmivfor instance openGL screensavers don't go04:42
frenchyim looking riht now04:42
rcmivany ideas?04:43
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bimberiVictorjiang: there's a package called snmpd, i guess you'd need to install that04:43
Victorjiangbimeri:it is already installed.but there is not a command called service04:43
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DMJCI'm running ubuntu linux04:44
intelikeycalender app ?    not a schedualer, a calender that contains things like moon phases and eclipes and such; that one might browse different years in ????04:44
DMJCI want to what i want to do04:44
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DMJCis setup a machine on my network to filter packets for priority04:44
sorush20guys any recommendation for very cheap domain registeration04:44
DMJCand share out my internet to the rest of the network04:45
Victorjiangbimeri:or how can I start the snmpd service by command line or gui?04:45
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DMJCany good howto's on filtering traffic for games to give higher priority to packets?04:46
danhow do install my wireless card?  I have an airlink awlc302504:46
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bimberiVictorjiang: sudo invoke-rc.d snmpd restart04:46
frenchyoh all i had to do was install the gstreamer-mad plugin04:47
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sethkDMJC, you want to give games _higher_ priority?04:48
sethkDMJC, regardless of the specifics, look at the traffic shaper thing04:49
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tyler7039hi, how would i go about updated Firefox?04:49
tyler7039i downloaded the install package04:49
tyler7039the .gz04:49
dananybody know how to install a wireless card?04:49
tyler7039but i dont know which file to run04:49
Madpilottyler7039: wait until April when Dapper comes out with 1.504:49
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Victorjiangbimberi: thanks a lot. libsnmp9 and libsnmp-base are installed. but it tell me:/etc/init.d/snmpd not found.Do I need to install more package?04:49
sethktyler7039, you mean it is a .tar.bz ?04:50
intelikeydan did you read the wiki ?04:50
DMJCsethk: home lan04:50
sethktyler7039, sorry, tar.gz, not bz04:50
B7su4can anyone help me with the error04:50
frenchydoes anyone else use amarok?04:50
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B7su4~/Desktop$ peerguardnf04:50
B7su4peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:50
DMJCI want downloads to take a backseat to my ping04:50
tyler7039sethk, yes it was04:50
sethkDMJC, your ping?04:50
tyler7039i extracted it into a folder04:50
danintelikey, no, new to the whole ubuntu thing04:50
bimberiVictorjiang: yes, the "snmpd" package (note the d)04:50
sethktyler7039, then actually you don't have to run anything04:50
intelikeydan  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:51
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B7su4can anyone help me with the error04:51
sethktyler7039, the firefox tar.gz files are ready to run04:51
danintelikey, thanks, I'll check it out!04:51
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aTypicalAnyone running Dapper getting an error about locales when trying to update?04:51
Victorjiangbimberi:Where can I get it?04:51
sethktyler7039, what I did was to copy them to a directory named /usr/local/firefox, and then I added /usr/local/firefox to my PATH04:51
bob832when picking between KDE and gnome, does it basically come down to pref?04:51
bimberiVictorjiang: sudo aptitude install snmpd (in a terminal)04:52
sethktyler7039, add /usr/local/firefox to the _front_ of the path, because the older one is still in /usr/bin04:52
tyler7039oh, okay04:52
tyler7039thank you04:52
dleHas anyone found on Breezy, Gnome hanging in a half-stopped state when shutting down from the menu?04:52
tyler7039i get it04:52
intelikeysethk what is it a tarball of pre-compiled binarries ?04:53
sethkintelikey, yes04:53
frenchydle does it hang or freeze?04:53
B7su4can anyone help me with the error04:53
sethkintelikey, both firefox and thunderbird on mozilla.org are tarballs of binaries.  they have one for x86, and a few other common targets04:53
Madpilotbob832: yes. Except that KDE users are feature sluts, and Gnome is only usable by idiots :P04:54
sethkintelikey, of course you can also download the source, and I believe they have fedora and debian packages available04:54
dlefrenchy - kind of a semantic difference. :)  It's effectively frozen -- unusable.04:54
intelikeyso it would run on any *nix ?04:54
frenchyB7su4 have you search synaptic for libstdc++ or something similar04:54
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B7su4frenchy, no, how can i do that?04:55
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frenchydle: mine hangs a little when logging out but that was because i didnt have my vid driver installed04:55
jiangguoweibimberi:You are so enthusiastic!  sudo aptitude install snmpd04:55
jiangguoweiReading package lists... Done04:55
jiangguoweiBuilding dependency tree... Done04:55
jiangguoweiReading extended state information04:55
jiangguoweiInitializing package states... Done04:55
jiangguoweiBuilding tag database... Done04:55
jiangguoweiNo candidate version found for snmpd04:55
jiangguoweiNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.04:55
jiangguowei0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:56
jiangguoweiNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.04:56
jiangguoweiWriting extended state information... Done04:56
brennerMadpilot: heh. what do you use?04:56
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jiangguoweibimberi:why no package is downloaded?04:56
bimberijiangguowei: thanks, but don't paste in here like that please04:56
frenchyB7su4 do you use synaptic04:56
Madpilotbrenner: I'm an idiot :P04:56
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Madpilotbrenner: there was a post about two weeks ago by Linus Torvalds slagging Gnome, hence the idiots/feature slut comment04:57
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bimberijiangguowei: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:57
B7su4i think so04:57
B7su4frenchy, ^04:57
jiangguoweibimberi:sorry.Ok04:58
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brennerMadpilot: i haven't use kde for a while, but yeah, i sort of agree with the other comment.  one of the things i'd like in gnome is more power04:58
frenchyB7su4 how do you install yoru packages04:58
Madpilotbimberi: it's a talent I have :P04:58
brennerbut then again i find it really usable04:58
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intelikey        anyone know of a good calendar app.   not scheduler.  just venella cal. that has moon phase ?04:59
B7su4teriman apt-get04:59
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=== cafuego has an ascii-art moon phase tool :-)
Madpilotbrenner: I'm always tinkering with my desktop details - I have since Win98 days - and I haven't found Gnome limiting yet, and the basics are far more usable than KDE, IMO04:59
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Xenguyintelikey: pom == phase of moon05:00
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tonyyarussoSay you downloaded a .deb.  Can you install it without using the command line and dpkg -i?05:00
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Madpilottonyyarusso: not currently05:00
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tonyyarussoMadpilot, Is that a plan for near-future releases?05:00
Xenguytonyyarusso: why?05:00
intelikeycafuego if it is the same one i dl'd the range is 500-2100  too short.05:00
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frenchyB7su4 apt-get install libstdc++05:00
cafuegointelikey: Let me check05:00
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tonyyarussoXenguy, Possible Windows migration-candidate friend is wondering.05:01
intelikeyXenguy that is for present date   no ?05:01
Madpilottonyyarusso: I think there'll be a graphical installer for Dapper - april 200605:01
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tonyyarussoXenguy, Of course, most things Synaptic will be fine, so that's nice.05:01
Xenguyintelikey: hrm, pom is in bsdgames I think05:01
tonyyarussoMadpilot, Perfect.  Thanks.05:01
Xenguytonyyarusso: don't fear the CLI :-)05:01
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tonyyarussoXenguy, I don't - I love it!05:02
Madpilottonyyarusso: I seem to remember a post on planet.ubuntu.com about the deb installer, sometime in the last two months...05:02
intelikeypom but it only shows present phase ?    doesn't it ?05:02
Xenguytonyyarusso: heheh05:02
frenchydoes anyone here know if there is something like gxmms for amarok?05:02
superneothis 1 is kinda complicated ... i need xmms-jack to see/use jackd so i can then set up oddcast ...does any1 know how to do this or a "howto" that i could read ?05:02
cafuegointelikey: It's certainly got a Y2K problem05:02
Xenguyintelikey: yep05:02
cafuego"1051222 05:06  the moon is waning gibbous (65% illuminated)"05:02
Xenguyintelikey: or AFAIK05:02
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brennerMadpilot: you obviously don't tinker enough. :)  it's just minor things really, like how about letting us change the panel's font color without going through a theme?  but then again, that's a pure eye candy thing05:03
intelikeyk neither of those help me.  but thanks for the input Xenguy cafuego05:03
dlefrenchy - vid driver.  In general I'm finding X performing rather poorly in Breezy w/ either the radeon or the fglrx driver.05:03
intelikeyany other sujestions welcome.05:03
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Xenguyintelikey: apt-cache search moon05:03
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dle2nd question: HOw do you configure pppoe in Breezy?05:04
B7su4frenchy, says that it can not find it05:04
Madpilotbrenner: yeah, the whole theme-building thing I haven't really gotten into yet - but changing some stuff independant of the theme would be nice05:04
morphixhow hard would it be to change over ubuntu install on a lower class celeron.. onto a new mobo & higher celeron, using the existing NIC & hdds as the old machine..?05:04
morphixso i dont need to reinstall the whole system again05:05
frenchyehh thats why i stick to nvidia dle ati support kind of sucks for linux, im not sure what to tell you ive never had an ati card so i probably wont be much help05:05
cdubyahey tonyyarusso.05:05
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frenchyB7su4 apt-get install libstdc++6, try that05:05
sethkmorphix, odds are you could just use it as is, changing nothing05:05
tonyyarussocdubya, Hey there.05:05
cdubyatonyyarusso, so how'd you come out with your finals?05:06
intelikeymorphix as easy as changing the hardware.05:06
morphixhmm i hope05:06
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dlefrenchy - Yeah, it's  a bit of a mess.05:06
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tonyyarussocdubya, Well, I think I passed; we'll find out next month when marks come back.  I know some of them, and those were good.05:06
cafuegointelikey: No, mine seems to suffer from 32bit integer time_t issues.05:06
B7su4frenchy, gave me this Building dependency tree... Done05:06
B7su4libstdc++6 is already the newest version.05:06
B7su40 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:06
bimberiubotu tell dle about pppoe05:06
cdubyatonyyarusso, good deal. :)05:06
dkelsonwhere can I find the udeb for the daily dapper kernel?05:06
cdubyaanyone use xfce?05:07
Xenguycdubya: yup05:07
intelikeycafuego yep05:07
cdubyaXenguy, any way to show the battery life?05:07
Xenguycdubya: yes...05:07
frenchyhmm05:07
cdubyaheh. got any tips05:07
cdubya?05:07
Xenguycdubya: there's a plug-in05:07
cdubyaewwww.05:07
Xenguycdubya: ?05:08
cdubyaand I'm sure it's got a very logical package name, right05:08
cdubya?05:08
cdubyaheh05:08
_jasonB7su4, didn't you need libstdc++5 ?05:08
dlebimberi - THanks. I knew about pppoeconf already, and used it after my install.  However, on reboot just now, I had to run it again.  pon did not work.05:08
frenchyok B7su4 i may have missed your complete problem, what app were you running and what error did it give you again05:08
Xenguycdubya: it might take a little cleverness yes05:08
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cdubyaXenguy, I really like it.....just want to make sure I can do everything I need to...05:08
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laptopzzis it possible to get gstreamer .10 in ubu breezy?05:08
eclaircdubya: i think you could add it on the panel or something. there are a lot of stuff to monitor things like battery life, etc05:08
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cdubyaXenguy, file manager never launches, is it another separate package that doesn't get install as a dep......05:09
B7su4frenchy, i  am running peerguardian...and it gives me this error peerguardnf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:09
cdubyaeclair, I looked, but didn't see anything....05:09
Xenguycdubya: apt-cache search xfce |grep battery05:09
cdubyaI'll have to google for the package name....05:09
cdubyaXenguy, sweet, thanks05:09
Xenguycdubya: yw05:09
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dleXenguy - Think you're pretty smart, don't you?05:10
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Xenguydle: yeah, most of the time I rock :-)05:10
cdubyaXenguy, here's what I got.... xfce4-battery-plugin - battery monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel05:10
dlePff!  ;-)05:10
cdubyaso that's the name of the package?05:10
frenchyB7s4: and it says libstdc++6 is already installed05:10
Xenguydle: ;P05:10
intelikeyoh how cute.... i got the cutest little info box.... it is one char tall and has one line of info       [please wait]       lol05:11
_jasonB7su4, frenchy you need  libstdc++5 not  libstdc++605:11
Xenguycdubya: apt-get it dude05:11
B7su4_jason, okay05:11
B7su4yeah it works i think05:11
cdubyaXenguy, got it....05:11
frenchydoes anyone use amarok05:11
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_jasonfrenchy, yes05:12
cdubyasweet.....05:12
cdubyaworks like a charm.05:13
cdubyaXenguy, is the file manager another package as well?05:13
frenchy_jason do you know of anything for amarok that is like gxmms where i can control it from an applet on the gnome-panel05:13
_jasonfrenchy, hrmm nope sorry05:13
dkelsonHow do you make a "driver floppy" for Dapper to get a kernel module for loaded that isn't compiled/included by default?05:13
tonyyarussoI'm having an issue with tpb (ThinkPad buttons).05:13
frenchypoo05:13
Xenguycdubya: I didn't really like the native FM, so I installed a couple of others05:13
tonyyarussoI want the Access IBM (THINKPAD) button to open a terminal.05:13
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tonyyarussoI got this line for /etc/tpbrc from someone else:05:14
tonyyarussoTHINKPAD        /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=%f05:14
_jasonfrenchy, just setup some shortcut keys, I find them a lot more convenient05:14
cdubyaXenguy, what do you use?05:14
tonyyarussoBut it opens two terminals at once now.05:14
tonyyarussoThoughts?05:14
foxinesshow use this Parallels WS 2 on ubuntu ? it stop with me after Parallels-config 'ubuntu brezzy' ,i have GCC 3.4.5 and make .05:15
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Tobahrm it looks like there is a new version of eog in backports05:15
Tobahopefully the bug isf ixed there05:15
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Xenguycdubya: if you have fast hardware, then I find 'krusader' very nice...05:16
Xenguycdubya: otherwise I make do with 'emelfm'; I suppose 'konqueror' is worth a look too05:16
darknessHey, I'm looking to buy/get another Linux distro to duel boot with ubuntu, what would pick out of these for general use, programming and possibly a part time server: FreeBSD, Fedora Core 4, SLackware or Red Hat?05:16
intelikeytonyyarusso is that the only line in /etc/tpbrc ?05:16
tonyyarussointelikey, No.05:17
Madpilotdarkness: "duel-boot"? That's where the two OSes fight each other for system resources, is it? :P05:17
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intelikeycould ya pastebin it for us tonyyarusso05:17
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intelikey!paste05:17
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:17
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tonyyarussointelikey, Sure.05:18
LaptopZZis it possible to get gstreamer .10 in ubu breezy?05:18
darknessMadpilot: I think it's dual boot... Something like that. I just want to try another Linux OS.05:18
LaptopZZdarkness: like what05:18
foxinessany one get Parallels 2 work with ubuntu ?05:18
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Madpilotdarkness: yes, it's spelled "dual" - I was just razzing you on your spelling :)05:18
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Tobaargh05:19
Tobaeye of gnome is totally broken now05:19
darknessMadPilot: Hahaha, nice work. I didn't pick it up. I almost feel stupid now.05:19
Tobait won't even display folders :(05:19
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LaptopZZToba: u on dappers or something05:19
Tobano05:19
Tobabreezy05:19
LaptopZZhm05:19
LaptopZZhowd you break it05:20
Tobabackports made it worse not better05:20
LaptopZZoh heh05:20
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Madpilotdarkness: it seems to be a very common spelling error, and it amuses me to point it out.... ;)05:20
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Tobawell, I did a distupgrade the other day and since then eye of gnome has had a buggy version05:20
bimberiyay backports05:20
jason^is there a good place to get just a standard iptables script to setup NAT but have it be default deny for incoming stuff?05:20
Tobabimberi: yay, it broke it worse :(05:20
tonyyarussointelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/601805:20
intelikeyk05:20
darknessMadpilot: I usually have alright spelling. Well, alright compared to most people I talk to.05:20
LaptopZZToba: download a known working package05:20
makkuraI've got a strange problem showing up on two boxes...  the install never asked for a root password so I can't access su in terminals though some administration programs in unbuntu let me use them with my own password.05:20
_jasonubotu, tell makkura about root05:21
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Tobawell I can downgrade now05:21
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makkura_jason, thanks...  can I get my very own ubotu? ;)05:21
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Tobabut adding more newer buggier things did not get me the hoary packages :(05:21
_jasonmakkura, sure05:22
darknessHey, I'm looking to buy/get another Linux distro to dual boot with ubuntu, what would pick out of these for general use, programming and possibly a part time server: FreeBSD, Fedora Core 4, SLackware or Red Hat?05:22
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_jasonubotu, tell makkura about yourself05:22
Tobasay... if I add hoary repos it won't downgrade anything right?05:22
Tobait'll just give me more options05:22
LaptopZZdarkness: depends on your needs05:22
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eclairmakkura: try sudo ?05:22
Tobais that no correct?05:22
jason^ubotu: tell me about root05:22
LaptopZZToba: not totally sure..05:22
intelikeytonyyarusso there are 0 lines in that file....  they are all commented out.05:22
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Tobahrm05:22
darknessLaptopZZ: I basically want to try out another OS, one that comes with a little more bundled software then Ubuntu. : )05:22
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Tobathe whole repositories thing is a bit confusing to me05:23
LaptopZZdarkness: debian then, its ubuntu with all you'd ever wan05:23
LaptopZZt05:23
Madpilotdarkness: there's something like 17,000 packages in the Ubuntu repos - when are you going to find time to try them all?05:23
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tonyyarussointelikey, Not the Thinkpad one for sure; I didn't remember if any others were left.05:23
cafuego!dstats05:23
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dkelsonIs there a Ubuntu equiv of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerModify ?05:23
tonyyarussointelikey, That may be the only one though now that I think about it.05:23
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darknessMadpilot: I have alot of time on my hands.... I also want to try something different to Ubuntu.05:23
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bimberiToba: try removing backports, apt-get update, then apt-get install --reinstall eog05:24
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thick-glassesanyone install the new broadcom wireless driver with breezy?05:24
darknessLatptopZZ: I don't want to try Debian because Ubuntu is based of Debian, meaning they would be very similar.05:24
cafuegoOoh, internal error! :-)05:24
norkihow can i apt-get zsnes 1.36? i don't know the filename XD05:24
Tobaoh I don't need to worry about getting it down to the breezy version bimberi05:24
bimberiToba: s/removing/commenting out/05:24
TobaI did that with force version in synaptic05:24
TobaI want the hoary version though05:24
Tobasince the breezy version is not as good05:25
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bimberiToba: oh, ok :)05:25
Tobaany ideas?05:25
cafuegodarkness: Ubuntu probably has more bundled software than other distros.  It's just that others may have that stuff on a DVD whereas with Ubuntu you fetch it from online sources.05:25
brennernorki: the version in the breezy repo is 1.405:25
tonyyarussointelikey, Okay, yes, it would appear the only non-commented line is the one I said earlier.  Sorry.05:25
intelikeytonyyarusso yes that is the only line in the file not commented out, sorry for the 0 statement i missed it the first pass.05:25
brennerand the package is funnily enough, called zsnes05:25
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norkibrenner: i know.. but i want 1.36, it's faster05:25
darknessCafuego: Ok, enough about the sfotware then. I still would like to try another Linux DIstro.05:26
tonyyarussointelikey, So any ideas what's wrong with that one?05:26
cafuegodarkness: Pick one, download it, install it :-)05:26
brennernorki: then you'll have to d/load the source off the official site05:26
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brennerand compile/checkinstall05:26
darknessCafuego: Definately not downloading it... I'm going to buy it off of Ebay.05:26
bimberiToba: only yucky ones involving force-ing things that probably won't work anyway05:26
norkibrenner: ok i'll look into it. but i've never compiled a thing in my life05:26
intelikeytonyyarusso well my thoughts on the reson are proved /dev/null so i don't know what to tell ya.05:26
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brennerubotu: tell norki about source05:26
megasquidanyone good with mod rewrite?05:27
Tobait's just eye of gnome05:27
TobaI doubt anything has that as a dependency05:27
brennerhmm, bad factoid05:27
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tonyyarussointelikey, What if I tried removing the options from gnome-terminal?05:27
bimberiToba: nautilus :/05:27
Tobaew05:27
Tobanautilus is not at all what I need05:27
brennernorki: there's a wiki page on compiling05:27
tonyyarussointelikey, (btw, do you remember how to reload tpb after making changes?)05:27
megasquid?05:27
Falstiushow can I tell the nautilus cd burner where to store temporary files?  Or set any options at all.05:28
norkibrenner: ta05:28
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bimberiToba: plus ubuntu-desktop and others which probably don't matter, but nautilus...05:28
Tobanautilus depends on eog?05:28
Tobawtf?05:28
intelikey /etc/init.d/tpb restart    maybe tonyyarusso05:28
Tobaargh05:28
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norkii know what to compile is, but do i need to install C or something? and link and stuff like that?05:28
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Tobabut it's buggy and stuff :(05:29
Tobaand there's really nothing I can do?05:29
tonyyarussointelikey, Seems to work.05:29
Tobanooooooooooo!05:29
Xenguynorki: build-essential05:29
bimberiToba: actually - it's a "suggests" dependency05:29
Tobaok then05:29
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dkelsonwhat version of gcc is used to compile the ubunto dapper AMD64 kernel?05:29
tonyyarussointelikey, Same problem.05:29
sethknorki, the c compiler is already installed05:29
bimberiToba: so try uninstalling and installing the hoary deb using dpkg05:30
brennernorki: actually, i can't find a wiki page. but yeah, you need buildessential (which has all that C stuff) and then add the source repos to your sources.list, and then apt-get build-dep zsnes to get all the libraries etc. it will need05:30
brenner*build-essential05:30
Tobabut I don't know what version hoary had05:30
Toma-dkelson: are in dapper now?05:30
dkelsonno05:30
intelikeytonyyarusso then i have no idea....05:30
bimberiToba: http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:30
Tobathx05:30
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tonyyarussointelikey, Okay, now something's up with some step of that.05:30
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tonyyarussointelikey, I commented out everything now, tried that restart command, and it still opens two.  Hmm...05:31
Tobathanks bimberi05:31
brennernorki: then you can either read the README file in the source archive to work out how to compile, or use checkinstall to do all that stuff and install it for you05:31
bimberiToba: np, good luck :)05:31
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norkibrenner: i've got the tar. i should prolly read up on the basic commands before i try compiling something :)05:31
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intelikeytonyyarusso it's not running a script some where is it ?05:31
tonyyarussointelikey, And System > Preferences > Sessions > Current Session shows the little lifesaver ring by tpb.05:32
tonyyarussointelikey, Shouldn't be to my knowledge.05:32
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ubuntu..-05:34
sethknorki, compiling from a tar file is very easy05:34
brennernorki: good idea, but here it is in a few steps: [1]  add source repos [2]  apt-get build-dep zsnes [3]  untar the source archive [4]  install checkinstall [5]  cd into the archive and type 'sudo checkinstall'05:34
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ubuntu_rc-hispano.org05:35
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brenner[5]  should be cd into the extracted zsnes source dir, not the archive itself05:35
norkibrenner, sethk: yeah, to compile i type ./configure && gmake && gmake install05:35
norkibut where do i uncompress the tar?05:36
sethknorki, gmake is only necessary on real unix systems05:36
martianpenguinhey, is there a way to log into my computer remotely and use graphical applications from another linux box?05:36
Tobahrm05:36
sethknorki, the only make on linux (well, by default) is gma,e05:36
Xenguynorki: yeah, not gmake05:36
sethkgmake, that is05:36
linkdmartianpenguin: a VNC server05:36
Madpilotmartianpenguin: yes05:36
TobaI want to use dpkg to install eog 2.10.0-0ubuntu105:36
Tobawhat command would I use?05:36
cmatheson martianpenguin yes, use ssh w/ x forwarding05:36
martianpenguinhow bout a straight xserver?05:36
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sethknorki, if it is a compressed tar file, gnu tar has a three convenience flags to extract and compress in one step05:36
XenguyToba: dpkg -i   ?05:36
martianpenguinoh how do i do xforwarding?05:37
Tobabut what deb05:37
brennernorki: i'd seriously recommend you use checkinstall (it makes a deb for you and installs it, making for easy uninstall later)05:37
Tobaand does the deb have to be in my repos05:37
sethknorki, so if it is a .tar.gz, you can extract from it with tar xvzf05:37
Tobawoudl it be eog-2.10.0-0ubuntu1.deb?05:37
MrProper_martianpenguin, google "x forwarding howto"05:37
brennernorki: uncompress wherever you want.  you can remove the src dir later if you want05:37
_jasonubotu, tell norki about checkinstall05:37
Xenguynorki: checkinstall is nice05:37
_jasonnorki, I'd recommend checkinstall as well.  Keeps what you build in the package database so you can easily remove it if you need to05:37
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brennerToba: dpkg -i <deb file> is for *local* deb files05:38
norkithanks guys05:38
Tobaahhh!05:38
sethknorki, checkinstall is a good thing to do.05:39
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sethknorki, a small extra step, can save you aggrevation later05:39
sethknorki, just adding my vote to the others05:39
norki=) good stuff05:39
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norkik i've got it uncompressed to my desktop in a folder called zsnes-1.3605:41
norkinow i just chdir to that05:41
intelikeyman date calculators are scarce as hin's teeth05:41
norkiand type checkinstall?05:41
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brennernorki: have you installed the libraries etc it needs?05:42
brennerusing build-dep?05:42
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crimsunnorki: you know that 1.400 is in Breezy/multiverse, right?05:42
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batmanhello does anyone know of a ftp server i can get for ubuntu05:42
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tonyyarussoWhy can I only run wvdial with sudo?  Otherwise it says no valid phone number, etc.05:42
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batmani try apt-get install proftpd but it says package not found05:42
norkiyeah i suppose i've got the libs, since 1.40 uses them05:43
norkicrimsun: yeah05:43
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crimsunnorki: why 1.360?05:43
intelikey!repos05:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource05:43
intelikeybatman ^05:43
brennernorki: then yeah, cd into it and run checkinstall05:43
norkicrimsun: i wanna see if it's faster. it was on windows05:43
_jasonbrenner, don't you have to configure and amke first?05:43
_jasonmake even05:43
Xenguy!checkinstall05:44
uboturumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall05:44
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brenner_jason: not with checkinstall afaik05:44
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_jasonBrendon, hrmm05:44
crimsunnorki: makes more sense to use hoary deb-src lines, then, since 1.360-2 is in Hoary/multiverse.05:44
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norkicrimsun: thanks!05:44
Tobaarghhh.05:44
norkicheckinstall failed btw05:44
blankyguys for some reason kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu is frickin slow for me05:44
Helfax_Anyone have success with WPA2 and Breezy?05:45
badmacktuckhello all, i found the wiki for installing firefox 1.5, but has anyone in here done it? will a semi-newb be able to do it without too many problems?05:45
crimsunHelfax_: sure.05:45
blankywhenever i drag a box around my desktop it's slow and stuff05:45
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crimsunbatman: use !info proftpd05:45
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makkuraHi again guys :P   Does Unbuntu have anything built in for dialup?  I'm having trouble finding anything in the wiki and not seeing anything I know on the box itself.05:45
bimberiToba: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb05:45
batmancrimsun: thanks05:45
TobaI'm trying to get rid of backports05:45
Tobawhat's the best way to go about doing that?05:45
Tobait only installed like 10 things05:45
Helfax_Crimsun: Cool. I can get it to auth with wpa but not wpa2.. I also can't get it to grab an IP addrr.05:45
crimsunHelfax_: WPA2 is problematic with Breezy's wpasupplicant, but Dapper's works fine.05:46
tonyyarussoToba: I assume just removing them from sources.list doesn't help because they'll all be newer versions than the leftover install candidates, right?05:46
Tobayes05:46
TobaI want to remove backports and downgrade to what I had05:46
crimsunHelfax_: you can download Dapper's deb-src for wpasupplicant, compile it, install it, and try it.05:47
Helfax_crimsun: I'll give that a shot. Appreciate the info!05:47
tonyyarussoToba: Do you know which packages they are?05:47
Tobayes05:47
Helfax_This is why I love Ubuntu.05:47
cdubyaI never could get WPA to work right.05:47
cafuegodapper still uses 0.45 as well, there *is* a 0.47 out there05:48
Tobahttp://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/pkgs.txt05:48
Helfax_cdubya: I'll let you know. I'm going to try it in a few minutes.05:48
crimsunno, I uploaded 0.47 a while ago.05:48
Tobathat's the list of the ones that backports upgraded05:48
cafuegoAh, cool.05:48
norkido i use * wildcards in linux? for searching05:48
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Tobayou can norki05:48
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cdubyaHelfax_, np. I just don't use it. I got annoyed after following the instructions and still encountering problems, so I gave up.05:48
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norkitoba: then the file searcher is broken05:49
Tobanorki: what command did you use?05:49
Helfax_cdubya: Yeah, it was a pain in the arse.05:49
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cafuegocrimsun: Do kernels still hardlock when you eject a card with wpasupplicant running?05:49
norkitoba: places - search for files05:49
Tobatonyyarusso: any idea how to downgrade these?05:49
Helfax_Ok.. Going to try Dapper. Thanks again Crimsun.05:49
Tobanorki: I've never used that, dunno05:49
blankyguys, is anyone witnessing slowness/lagginess on kubuntu-desktop? (not kubuntu, but kubuntu-desktop)05:49
cdubyaHelfax_, pretty much. It was really discouraging given I followed the wiki instructs and it still didn't work.05:49
TobaI just use find on the command line05:49
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intelikeynorki wildcard * is wilder on *nix systems than it is on M$ systems.05:50
Tobawilder, heh05:50
norkilol05:50
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Helfax_cdubya: Wireless still has a way to go in and distro of Linux.. IMHO.05:50
crimsuncafuego: can't test that (ipw2195 here)05:50
tonyyarussoToba: I would guess apt-get install -f --reinstall package1 package2 etc05:50
Helfax_s/and/any/05:50
Tobatonyyarusso: o_005:50
Tobaso wait what?05:50
Tobaremove the backports repos first and then do that?05:50
tonyyarussoToba: The -f might not even be necessary?05:50
cdubyaHelfax_, yeah, I don't find as slick of implementations, in particular with wpa05:50
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tonyyarussoToba: Right.05:51
intelikeyyou laugh at me.....    but  linux * = M$ *.*  :)05:51
cdubyaHelfax_, that was just a really annoying issue to me....05:51
Tobaok... I'll try it05:51
Helfax_cdubya: I share your pain.05:51
tonyyarussoToba: Because if it has to reinstall them, but the backports aren't available anymore, logically it would have to get the others, right?05:51
norkihow can i show hoary repositories in synaptic?05:51
Tobatonyyarusso: I would hope so05:51
norkifor finding zsnes 1.305:52
batmanok i'm trying to install the mysqlcc for my database but its not finding the package and i have added the repository that you showed me before05:52
crimsunnorki: just use http://packages.ubuntu.com/zsnesy05:52
crimsunnorki: -y05:52
megasquidanyone good with mod rewrite?05:52
norkicrimsun: using firefox?05:52
crimsunnorki: eh?05:52
Tobaodd...05:53
DShepherddoes anyone have firefox 1.5 installed on breezy?05:53
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TobaDIE BACKPORTS DIE.05:53
Tobait won't let me do that, tonyyarusso05:53
tyler7039_jason, can you respond in the dialog window?05:54
norkicrimsun: do i add that in synaptic preferences?05:54
Tobatonyyarusso: http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/noworky.txt05:54
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_jasontyler7039, what dialog window?05:54
crimsunnorki: no, it's just a reference you can use05:54
tyler7039the IM thing05:54
tyler7039its just a chat between me and you05:54
_jasontyler7039, just ask here, you need to be registered to /msg05:54
blankyGUYS MY KUBUNTU-DESKTOP IS EXTREMELY SLOW!05:55
crimsunblanky: your capslock is stuck.05:55
tyler7039well how do i install a .tar.gz05:55
blankyYEAH LET ME FIX IT SORRY05:55
_jasonblanky, use gnome then05:55
blankybetter05:55
tyler7039i know how to extract it05:55
tonyyarussoToba: You're sure pmount is available outside of backports, right?05:55
tyler7039but what file do i run05:55
blanky_jason, I've used gnome, I want to try kde :)05:55
norkicrimsun: can't i just apt-get it? if so, what's the syntax for it05:55
_jasontyler7039, what are you installing05:55
tyler7039limewire basic05:55
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drcodehi all05:56
Tobatonyyarusso: I was pretty sure backports only included things that were in the main development tree (upgrades)05:56
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drcodeis there skype for llinux ?05:56
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blanky_jason, it's kubuntu desktop, maybe kubuntu will be faster? If I install the OS05:56
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naliothdrcode: yes there is05:56
Tobadrcode: yes there is05:56
Toba:o05:56
batmanok i'm trying to install the mysqlcc for my database but its not finding the package and i have added the repository that you showed me before05:56
drcodewhat I need to install ?05:56
_jasonubotu, tell tyler7039 about limewire05:56
seth_k|lappyToba, tonyyarusso, there is backports-extras, which includes programs not in the repos.05:56
tonyyarussoToba: Unless it was something new for the next release maybe.05:56
tyler7039thank you =D05:56
naliothubotu: tell drcode about skype05:56
Tobatonyyarusso: possibly I guess05:56
crimsunnorki: you actually need to compile it due to the changes between Hoary and Breezy05:56
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tonyyarussoseth_k|lappy, Ah.05:56
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norkidohness.. :\05:56
Tobabut I can't seem to downgrade ANY of these in this way05:57
blankyman my kde is painstakingly slow, i mean, it runs faster on a slower machine i bet05:57
Tobathe way tonyyarusso said that is05:57
fangorioushow do I get rid of the apt/synaptic NOT AUTHENTICATED messages?05:57
Tobaeven ones that are DEFINITELY in the main breezy repos05:57
Tobalike xchat05:57
naliothfangorious: don't run non official repos05:57
crimsunnorki: apt-get build-dep zsnes05:57
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_jasontyler7039, you'll need java first, have you installed that?05:57
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fangoriousnalioth: and if it's official updates from ubuntu, like perl?05:57
DShepherddoes anyone have firefox 1.5 installed on breezy?05:57
crimsunnorki: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.400-1.diff.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.400.orig.tar.gz05:57
naliothfangorious: then something is very wrong05:58
Tobaall I wanted to do when I started out here was to downgrade eog05:58
Tobanothing more05:58
Toba;(05:58
DShepherdgnome that is05:58
drcodeits in apt-get?05:58
crimsunnorki: extract it and apply the source, then generate a deb.05:58
Tobadrazq: no05:58
Toba*drcode05:58
Tobanot AFAIK05:58
naliothdrcode: read the info ubotu sent you05:58
drcodek05:58
drcodethanx05:58
batmancrimsun, do you know of a mysql panel like mysqlcc that i can get?05:58
fangoriousnalioth: wasn't there a dpkg-reconfigure type of thing similar to this when breezy went from RC to final release?05:58
pashawDShepherd, i do05:58
naliothfangorious: i'm not following you05:58
DShepherdpashaw: does your yelp start?05:59
tonyyarussoToba: I'm going to check a package search to see where it is, out of curiosity.05:59
Tobawhich package?05:59
Tobapmount?05:59
_jasonDShepherd, you installed ff1.5 and now your yelp doesn't start?05:59
proubuguys... im having a problem while running gmplayer05:59
proubuLinux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied05:59
proubuTry adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.05:59
pashawDShepherd, ?? help?  which one you asking about the normal gnome one or Firefox one?05:59
DShepherdjason^:  I am not sure.. if it was firefox.. but I suspect it05:59
fangoriousnalioth: i seem to recall a wave of people who had been using an RC of breezy were deluged with authentication problems after it went final, and there was a simple dpkg-reconfigure type solution to get the new gpg keys or something06:00
DShepherdpashaw: the one for ubuntu06:00
drcodethanx alon Natlion06:00
drcodethanx alon Natlios06:00
crimsunbatman: I don't, but any multitude of searches will help you.06:00
tonyyarussoToba: Yeah, as a test case.06:00
_jasonDShepherd, did you remove firefox1.07?  yelp depends on it06:00
DShepherdpashaw: normal gnome06:00
blankyhey guys in this, when I upgrade a kernel, I dont have to copile it right? It just downloads the binary?06:00
Tobatonyyarusso: it seems to work to force version in synaptic06:00
DShepherdjason^: ahh yes I did..06:00
batmancrimsun, i'm searching as we speak06:00
proubuso, can someone help me with that please?06:00
Tobahowever some of the other packages wouldn't work when I tried that06:00
_jasonDShepherd, there's your answer :)06:00
crimsunblanky: correct, presuming you're using a deb06:00
DShepherd_jason: ok. why so..06:00
Tobabecause they depended on each other (xchat and xchat-common for example)06:01
DShepherdsorry jason^ I mean _jason06:01
DShepherdmeant*06:01
tonyyarussoToba: Oh?  Maybe there's a different option in apt-get for force version specifically...06:01
norkicrimsun: extracted the original to desktop, then applied diff, then ran apt get06:01
norkiReading package lists... Done06:02
norkiBuilding dependency tree... Done06:02
norkiE: Unable to find a source package for zsnes06:02
crimsunnorki: no. apt-get install build-essential devscripts06:02
blankydamn seriously, this isn't funny anymore, kubuntu-desktop = "teh" slowness, maybe kubuntu OS will be faster?06:02
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norkii've got the essentials06:02
Tobathe replacement packages from my apt-get when I first upgraded after adding backports: http://toba.ath.cx/~eastein/replacements.txt06:02
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crimsunnorki: afterward, ''debuild binary''06:02
Tobathis is odd06:02
kwtmIs there some way to get at the KDE Hardware module under System Settings (KControl)?  Ubuntu seems to have disabled it, and I can't get the required info to get my video card working.06:02
DShepherd_jason: why does yelp depend on firefox? do you know?06:02
_jasonDShepherd, if you really need to get firefox1.5: start from scratch  (undo what you did and reinstall ff1.07 along with yelp and update-manager and whatever else went away) and follow the wiki guide to installing version 1.5.06:02
Tobathere's a bot doing a HEAD request on my server whenever I link a file in here06:02
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pete_hi all.  I'm a 1st time ubunu installed with moderate linux skills that needs some help now that the system is up running.06:03
DShepherd_jason: ok.. thanks06:03
Tobais there some links-collector bot in here?06:03
_jasonDShepherd, it uses something that firefox provides to show you the help pages06:03
naliothToba: you can grep the logs of this channel06:03
norkicrimsun:06:04
naliothpete_: don't ask to ask, just ask06:04
norkicannot find readable debian/changelog anywhere!06:04
norkiAre you in the source code tree?06:04
DShepherd_jason: ok. I;ll google for more info. Thanks06:04
norkii am in the source tree :p06:04
Tobanalioth: what?06:04
crimsunnorki: you need to be in the root of the extracted source (where you applied the diff)06:04
_jasonubotu, tell DShepherd about firefox1506:04
norkicrimsun: i'm at ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/zsnes-1.36$06:05
pete_well my install went well and the machine booted up.  I could not log in as root (disabled) but could log in as my alter ego.  1st thing I see are updates.  However, I can't get them to install/show/list,etc.  I just hear a small beep sound. nothing happens.06:05
norkithe src folder is one step up06:05
naliothubotu: tell Toba about logs06:05
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Tobathanks nalioth06:05
naliothubotu: tell pete_ about synaptic06:05
fangoriousnalioth: any idea where I could get the keys from to re-import them?06:05
naliothpete_: look to your private messages for info from ubotu06:05
naliothubotu: tell fangorious about gpgerr06:06
tonyyarussoToba: I didn't see anything in the apt-get help or man about forcing version, just reinstalling.06:06
pete_i found the menu item for synaptic, but when I try to run it from the gui, i hear the beep.  nothing happens.06:06
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Tobatonyyarusso: thanks for your help anyways :)06:06
norkioi why did i dl znes_1.400.orig.tar.gz06:06
norkishouldn't i apply the diff to 1.3606:06
norki?06:06
tonyyarussoToba: Of course, you could do apt-get remove packages && apt-get install package, but that could potentially be dangerous with dependencies maybe.06:06
tonyyarussoToba: Oh well.06:06
Tobayeah it could06:06
TobaI'm trying to force them with synaptic one by one now06:07
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tonyyarussoToba: Sounds like fun.06:07
naliothpete_: hit alt-f2 > "gksudo synaptic"06:07
Tobatonyyarusso: no, not really :)06:07
DShepherd_jason: thanks for the link. Do you know if this is the same situation for kde?06:07
Tobabut this sure is one hell of a learning experience :)06:07
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fit4lfeneed help with chroot06:08
proubucan someone help me with that please?06:08
_jasonDShepherd, afaik no essential apps depend on firefox being instaled.  but I don't run kde so I'm not really sure06:08
fit4lfeI set it up right I think06:08
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_jasonDShepherd, I don't even think kde includes firefox does it?06:08
pete_nalioth: tried to run as you said, got prompted for the password, but nothing else happened.06:08
fit4lfebut how do you start applications in chroot dir ?06:08
naliothpete_: ok, lets got to basics.  Applications > Accessories > Terminal06:09
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DShepherd_jason: I dont think by default. so its gnome's choice then to use something from firefox for yelp06:09
pete_got terminal.06:09
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batmani need mysqlcc very badly can someone please help me out06:10
naliothpete_: not type "gksudo synaptic" in the terminal and press <enter>06:10
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DShepherd_jason: interesting,.. so unistalling firefox is unistalling yelp. interesting. so is this a good thing?06:10
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone06:10
proubui need help =(06:10
_jasonDShepherd, what is a good thing?06:10
pete_nalioth: prompted for password, window disappears, beep, nothing happens. :-(06:10
Tobaproubu: with what?06:10
fit4lfedoes anyone have chroot06:11
fit4lfedir06:11
DShepherd_jason: doesnt it force someone to at least have firefox installed if they want to use yelp06:11
fit4lfeI need some help06:11
proubuToba, im trying to run gmplayer (yes, gui) and i got an error06:11
_jasonDShepherd, yeah I find that annoying too.06:11
naliothpete_: something is weird. in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update" <enter>06:11
Tobaproubu: which error is that?06:11
Tobabtw don't make us ask these questions06:11
proubuToba, Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied06:11
proubuTry adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.06:11
_jasonDShepherd, for example you can't use epiphany without firefox either.06:11
Tobajust say what your problem is :)06:11
naliothfit4lfe: you need to ask uncle google, and not ask so often in here, if anyone in here knows, they will answer06:11
pete_nalioth: pete@baseball:~$ sudo apt-get update06:11
pete_pete@baseball:~$06:11
pete_nothing.06:11
Tobaproubu: hrm....06:11
_smd_I have question.  IF ican here people loggin in and out of gain on most programs but i never here them msg me... even though i have enable sounds on... what do do?06:11
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naliothpete_: then your machine is way out of whack.06:12
DShepherd_jason:really..??06:12
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TobaI dunno about that one06:12
DShepherd_jason: that;s not kool..06:12
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Tobaare you running it as root when you are not logged in gui as root?06:12
DShepherd_jason: at all06:12
Tobathat can cause some authentication issues06:12
pete_nalioth: not very reassuring for me to move from Mandrake to Ubuntu.  I had heard such wonderful things.06:12
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kairu0hi all06:12
Inf3ctedFxI have ubuntu breezy, my fstab is already write it, my NTFS is already mounted automatic I can see the partitions, but I can't access as a user..06:12
naliothpete_: you are the first person i've come in contact with that has no synaptic or apt-get06:12
kairu0has anyone been able to run enlightenment and nautlis at the same time?06:12
naliothpete_: did your install go ok?06:13
Tobakairu0: why would you WANT to?06:13
Tobanautilus is not a very nice app06:13
Inf3ctedFxsomeone knowes the command to add on the fstab to allow me as a user to access?06:13
intelikeyfit4lfe what are you trying to run with a special root ?06:13
pete_nalioth: seemed to go without issue.  Machine rebooted, and I logged in.  All seemed well.06:13
proubuToba, nope... and i tried with sudo too and i just got this06:13
_jasonDShepherd, I thinkgecko is the common thing they both use.  But gecko isn't available by itself.  So you need firefox installed to use it06:13
Tobaread or write access, Inf3ctedFx06:13
Inf3ctedFxto read06:13
proubuToba, vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display) and nothing happens then06:13
Tobadunno then proubu06:13
kairu0Toba, i like enlightenment, but i want to have nautilus' desktop icons06:13
naliothpete_: in your terminal type "apt-get --version"06:13
Tobakairu0: hrm true06:13
pete_nalioth: I can "see" synaptic in /usr/sbin/synaptic06:14
Inf3ctedFxnow if I can write it will be good Toba06:14
DShepherd_jason: so what is the rationale behind this? shouldnt there be a link or section in the help that tells the user that epiphany and yelp is dependent on firefox06:14
proubuToba, oh ok, ty anyways06:14
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intelikeyfit4lfe or are you trying to setup a chrooted jail for a login ?06:14
Inf3ctedFxToba:  this is the thing, I have a lot of music on my ntfs partition06:14
pete_pete@baseball:~$ apt-get --version06:14
pete_apt 0.6.40.1ubuntu9 for linux i386 compiled on Oct  5 2005 13:40:0806:14
pete_Supported modules:06:14
pete_*Ver: Standard .deb06:14
pete_*Pkg:  Debian dpkg interface (Priority 30)06:14
Tobawhat's your current fstab line Inf3ctedFx06:14
pete_ S.L: 'deb' Standard Debian binary tree06:14
pete_ S.L: 'deb-src' Standard Debian source tree06:14
Inf3ctedFxbut I cannot access06:14
pete_ Idx: Debian Source Index06:14
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tonyyarussoCan someone give me a crash-course on apt-spy usage?06:14
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Lockedoes anyone know of a good lightweight browser?06:14
Tobawhoa pete06:14
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_jasonDShepherd, if you view the description in synaptic for each of those packages, they will include firefox06:14
Tobaslow down cowboy06:14
Inf3ctedFxlet me show u my current fstab Toba  hold on06:14
_jasonDShepherd, ... as a dependency06:14
TobaInf3ctedFx: pm me it06:14
DShepherd_jason: ok. but still not kool06:14
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naliothpete_: please read the /topic (and don't paste in here)06:15
naliothpete_: did you choose the default install options or advanced?06:15
pete_how do I "read" /topic?06:15
Lockedoes anybody know of a good lightweight browser with flashplayer?06:15
naliothpete_: type /topic06:15
pete_I never use irc because I lothe the interfaces and options.06:16
Inf3ctedFxToba:  here it is -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/602006:16
intelikey/topic06:16
Tobathanks Inf3ctedFx06:16
TobaI'll take a look at it06:16
naliothpete_: there are dozens of irc clients with all differernt interface options06:16
Inf3ctedFxok Toba06:16
TobaInf3ctedFx:06:17
Lockedoes anyone know how to open conky other than from a terminal?06:17
Tobaadd user to the list of options on your ntfs partition06:17
naliothLocke: alt-f2 > conky06:17
pete_ok, well, I guess I will play with this tomorrow and see what I can make of this.06:17
pete_thanks.06:17
Inf3ctedFxyes Toba ?06:17
intelikeyhmmm /me thought the keyboard was the only interface for irc.....06:17
Tobaone sec06:17
Inf3ctedFxok06:17
batmani need libqt3c102-mt and i search in the synaptic package manager and have no luck06:17
naliothintelikey: you dont have a DNI ?06:17
naliothbatman: what do you need it for?06:17
intelikeywho ?06:17
batmanmysqlcc06:17
intelikeywhat's a dni ?06:17
naliothintelikey: Direct Neural Interface06:17
intelikeylol06:18
intelikeynot for irc06:18
naliothbatman: if you open a console and use apt t0 intall that, it'll tell you the file that replaces it06:18
Lockedoes anyone know how to hide a terminal window on the open windows panel?06:19
tonyyarussoIs the Ubuntu mirror list available in a plain-text file somewhere?06:19
cafuegois mysqlcc the gui admin tool?06:19
crimsuntonyyarusso: just look on the Web site06:19
Tobahrm06:20
Tobathis isn't too good06:20
batmansays unable to lock the administration then asks if another process is using it06:20
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Inf3ctedFxr u talking to me Toba ?06:20
batmanadmin directory*06:20
naliothbatman: use sudo or close all your apt instances06:20
tonyyarussocrimsun, I see a list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive, but I want one as a file to use as an argument for apt-spy.06:20
TobaInf3ctedFx: no06:20
Inf3ctedFxuff ok lol06:20
Lockedoes anyone know how to hide a window on the open windows panel?06:20
TobaI'm worrying about downgrading xchat with synaptic06:20
Tobahrm...06:20
KrisHello, I'm trying to find a way to open a remote X session on my ubuntu box from my windows PC06:20
Inf3ctedFxwhy do u want to donwgrade?06:20
fangoriousnalioth: that fixed it, no more auth errors. thanks.06:20
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Locke...06:21
Kriscan anyone recommend a good XP friendly remote client?06:21
TobaInf3ctedFx: meh, I guess I *can* leave it, but I'd rather get rid of backports entirely06:21
tonyyarussoKris: I haven't tried it yet, but someone told me a good remote access program (cross-platform) was TightVNC.06:21
TobaKris: VNC?06:21
batmannalioth, says that the package isn't available but is referred to by another package06:21
Inf3ctedFxbackports?06:21
Krisok I'll look that up thanks :)06:21
TobaInf3ctedFx: if you don't know what it is you will have a hard time helping me out :)06:21
naliothbatman: i can't remember the name but there is a package that replaces it06:22
Inf3ctedFxlol I have an idea abot linux....06:22
Tobaubotu: tell Inf3ctedFx about backports06:22
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batmannalioth, will you please find out i really need to get my server up and running asap06:22
Tobawhoever made ubotu is a genius, btw06:22
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Tobait's exactly what this channel needs06:22
Adrosspony's?06:23
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Inf3ctedFxToba:  u r absolutly right06:23
Kriswoot I found it http://www.tightvnc.com/06:23
Kristhanks all :)06:23
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Tobaunfortunately downgrading is somewhat difficult :(06:24
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DShepherddoes anyone have any prob with me pasting too lines?06:26
Adrossno06:26
Adrossbut if there's three, God help us06:27
AdrossGod help us all06:27
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DShepherdINTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager06:27
DShepherdSystem error?:: Success06:27
_jasonDShepherd, you used one up with the question so I guess you are down to one now06:27
Victorjianghow can I install a deb package on ubuntu?What command should I use?06:27
_jasonDShepherd, what browser?06:27
DShepherdI get that when I try to start firefox06:27
DShepherd1.0.706:27
Tobawhich version06:27
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_jasonDShepherd, does it still run?06:28
Tobawhich ubuntu version are you using?06:28
DShepherd_jason: nope.06:28
DShepherdToba: breezy06:28
tonyyarussoWhy does the mirrors list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive not include the official country mirrrors, i.e. ei.archive.ubuntu.com?06:28
Tobaodd06:28
_jasonDShepherd, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup06:28
_jasonDShepherd, then try again06:28
DShepherd_jason: ok06:28
HelfaxHey people.. Is http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/ the right site to get a working version of wpa_supplicant for breezy?06:28
Inf3ctedFxbrb06:28
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DShepherd_jason: should I reinstall after,,?06:29
_jasonDShepherd, not if this works06:29
HelfaxI've tried the wpa-howto without success and someone suggested compiling it from src.06:29
DShepherd_jason: ok.. going to try resintall then06:29
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tonyyarussoI'm also still wondering about the mirror speed checking tool I used before besides apt-spy; it was net-something I think.06:30
poimenhi I have writen a little howtoo about instaliing xdvdshink on breezy to backup comertial dvds to dvd5 someone kwons were I can post it?06:30
pashawVictorjiang,  dkpkg -i06:30
batmannalioth, i figured it out thanks libqt3c102-mt was replaces with libqt3-mt, thus just install libqt3-mt.06:31
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pashawVictorjiang, sorry typo   dpkg -i06:31
cafuegopoimen: The wiki06:32
Victorjiangpashaw :thanks a lot06:32
DShepherd_jason: purged.. installed.. same error06:32
cafuegoHelfax: No. You could try building the dapper source deb on breezy though (that's version 0.47 now)06:32
batmandoes anyone here know of a mysql admin panel i can download?06:33
Victorjiangwho can give me a lower version snmpd?I can't install snmpd_5.1.2 on my dapper flight2.06:33
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cafuegobatman: 'sudo apt-get install mysql-admin'.06:33
batmancafuego, is that what replaced mysqlcc?06:33
cafuegobatman: Maybe, I dunno.06:33
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Tobaadding hoary main repositories to a breezy install and then doing an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade should do nothing, right?06:34
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tonyyarussonetselect!  That was it.06:34
batmancafuego, does that automatically add it to the control panel06:34
batmancafuego, nvm it does thanks a lot06:34
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cafuegoToba: maybe06:35
DShepherd_jason: starting yelp gives me the same error too. No firefox is installed... on my system06:35
Tobaah, I do love a decisive answer like that one :)06:35
ChousukeShouldn't, anyway06:35
Tobaat least you didn't say yes with false confidence though06:35
Chousukebut I wouldn't put the sources there.06:35
cafuegoToba: definitely possibly ;-)06:35
Tobalol06:35
TobaChousuke: see, I drastically need to downgrade to the hoary version of eye of gnome.06:36
Tobaand I can't do that if it isn't in my repositories :(06:36
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intelikeysure maybe.06:36
ChousukeToba: You'll probably have to downgrade gnome too06:36
DShepherdcan someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is the same for dapper?06:36
Tobao_006:36
Tobaeek06:36
jiangguoweiwho can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?06:37
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Chousukeunless you recompile the older version against breezy libs.06:37
DShepherdcan someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is this the same for dapper?06:37
Tobaok upgrade did nothing as I expected06:37
batmancafuego, am i able to manage my tables etc.. with mysql administrator? cause thats what i'm looking for and it doesn't seem to show anything of the type06:37
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Tobanow to try forcing eog down06:37
Krisdoes anyone know if there's a version of tightvnc in the apt-get archives for ubuntu?06:37
b00gzI cannot get my ndiswrapper to install ... I get an error on make install06:37
c0_cyberhellooooooo.............////////??????????>>><<<<06:37
Krisor better yet could anyone tell me how to check if there's such and such package out there regardless of what the package is?06:38
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cafuegobatman: Yep, that's what it's for.06:38
intelikeyKris apt-cache search <blah?>06:38
Tobawoot06:38
Tobait works06:38
Kristhanks intelikey06:38
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b00gzI cannot get my ndiswrapper to install ... I get an error on make install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982 someone please help!06:38
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Tobaand it didn't force me to downgrade gnome06:38
SweetestSavageQuestion: Can programs built for KDE be used on GNOME? (EG, Konqueror)?06:38
tonyyarussoKris: Yes, there is.  Do as intelikey said.06:38
batmancafuego, know if i could just install phpmyadmin?06:38
Tobab00gz: ndiswrapper is a curse upon humanity, nobody hears your screams06:39
owner989sweetest yes they can06:39
owner989they use the kde libs06:39
b00gzToba: wtf does that mean?06:39
SweetestSavageOh, okay.06:39
intelikeyKris if you run a gui use synaptic to search....06:39
owner989install with synaptic06:39
SweetestSavageThanks06:39
Kriscool it works! much better than compiling :)06:39
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Tobab00gz: it means that nobody has yet got ndiswrapper to work on the first try06:39
b00gzToba: well I am on my 3rd try please help.06:39
TobaI NEVER got it to work :(06:40
Krismy linux box is currently in the corner behind my christmas tree >.< so I'm just trying to set up an X server so I can connect to the gui remotely hehe06:40
Tobaturned out my wifi card was fried06:40
jiangguowei who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?06:40
TobaKris: ahhahaha06:40
b00gzToba: my card works in windows just fine...06:40
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Tobab00gz: good luck with that :(06:40
b00gzToba: :(06:40
Tobayeah :(06:40
SweetestSavageb00gz - Windows and Linux are two different things >.>06:40
b00gzSweetestSavage: I know this.06:40
TobaSweetestSavage: yes, and the people who wrote ndiswrapper seem to think otherwise :o06:40
ChousukeSweetestSavage: Actually..06:40
SweetestSavagexD06:40
Tobathey are so wrong...06:41
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ChousukeLinux works except when it doesn't, and windows works except when it doesn't06:41
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SweetestSavageHaha. Well, Linux works more consistently than Windows does.06:41
ChousukeTrue It also not works  more consistently06:41
Chousuke+.06:42
DShepherdcan someone tell me why yelp is so dependent on firefox and is this the same for dapper?06:42
Chousukemaybe it uses the rendering engine06:42
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HelfaxCan someone explain what dapper is?06:42
intelikeyChousuke actually i find it  windows works when it works and linux works except when i mess it up.06:42
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`23megHelfax, dapper is the next version of ubuntu, under development06:42
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M_Cheevyhelfax: dapper is short for Dapper Drake the next version06:42
MrProper_Chousuke, linux is only complicated to people who come from a windows background, most things are alot more logical with linux then windows06:42
SweetestSavageintelikey - Exactly, Linux works and you know what happens. Windows quits when it feels like it.06:42
HelfaxAh. Ok. I apologize for the lame question. Thanks though.06:43
teamorphwow! new Ubuntu version?06:43
lysisM_Cheevy, how far along is dapper running?06:43
TobaMrProper_: true.06:43
SweetestSavageErr, When Linux doesn't work you know *06:43
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lysisteamorph, ubuntu has a new release on a schedule of every 6 months i believe.06:43
M_Cheevylysis: ain't running it.06:43
lysisM_Cheevy, fair enough.  wasn't sure if you've kept up on it.06:43
ChousukeMrProper_: I agree.06:43
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MyrttiApril06:43
TobaSweetestSavage: you may know what happened but you often have to know a TON to fix it :)06:43
teamorphok06:43
HelfaxSomeone said that the dapper version of wpa_supplicant worked better than the one in breezy.06:43
teamorphI remember06:43
MrProper_Toba, much to my dismay coming originally from a windows admin background.....i was surprised how long it took to drop bad (windows) habbits06:43
SweetestSavageToba: Very true. =/06:43
Memphishello06:43
jiangguowei who can give me a snmpd package that could be installed on dapper flight2?06:43
TobaMrProper_: oh yes I know.06:43
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pashawDShepherd, go ask the yelp devs   they set the reqs.06:44
TobaI was a windows user not six months ago06:44
SweetestSavageToba: Linux is more orientated to users who are tagged as "advanced" when it comes to computers, though.06:44
lysisi see many posts in the forums regarding people wanting it to be prettier . . .   i on the other hand have problems where certain programs become unstable after x amount of hours of usage.  i'm confident that's more important. :)06:44
teamorphGuys! I have just installed Ubuntu06:44
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MrProper_Toba, a ton to fix is better then reinstalling a production system06:44
M_Cheevylysis: got enough on my hands with sata raid 0  and multi-os machines ;)06:44
Tobait takes some getting used to06:44
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teamorphi am .... mmmmmm lamer in it06:44
Krisugh, I hate when a program won't start because a font is missing06:44
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DShepherdpashaw: ok06:44
TobaMrProper_: true :)06:44
Vaske_Caris P3 750mhz with 256mb of SDRAM enought for Ubuntu and file server?06:44
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SweetestSavageToba: Yeah, it does take getting used to. I've been using Linux for 4 days now, I've been a Windows user for 10 years.06:44
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TobaVaske_Car: should be.06:44
ChousukeVaske_Car: Yes.06:44
KrisFatal server error:06:44
Kriscould not open default font 'fixed'06:44
pashawDShepherd,  does your newer firefox install work?06:44
Kris>.<06:44
sellsanyone have any issues with getting .m4a to play in linux06:44
lysisM_Cheevy, ha!  i've got one of those cute little cube computrs . . . . i effing hate it. lol   i can't wait for a tower again.06:44
MrProper_Vaske_Car, depends on what kind of volume your throughputting06:44
TobaSweetestSavage: hehe06:44
teamorphtoba - the same i did06:44
charlesCan someone help me with a problem please?06:44
Vaske_CarIt will not be that busy...06:44
lysisM_Cheevy, long story short . . . no room for raid anything.06:44
tonyyarussosells: Other than getting w32codecs, no.06:44
lysischarles, just ask it my friend.06:44
MrProper_charles, dont ask  to ask just ask06:44
M_Cheevylysis: I'm running on a tower... wouldn't think of doing multiprocessor on anything small ;)06:45
charlesWell, I'm a "noob" with Ubuntu.  Just installed it tonight as a matter of fact.06:45
Vaske_Carim more interested if that CPU can handle Ubuntu because its pretty old CPU..06:45
intelikeyChousuke yeah all software sux cept for that that i write   (every mama crow's little crow is always the blackest crow)06:45
b00gzAnyone know any other way to make wireless card work other than ndiswrapper06:45
KrisVaske_Car, damn near any cpu can handle ubuntu06:45
sellstonyyarusso: i am certain i installed the right codec. rhythmbox quits unexpectedly06:45
teamorphthe fact is. That i want to use it more06:45
DShepherdpashaw: well I unistalled that one when installing 1.0.7 was starting. so yeah it worked before.06:45
cafuegob00gz: magic06:45
Krisit's more a matter of how fast you want it to run06:45
Vaske_Carthanks06:45
charlesAnyway, I screwed up my sudo and am getting this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044006:45
b00gzcafuego: =/06:45
batmandoes anyone here know about installing phpmyadmin?06:46
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tonyyarussosells: That I haven't heard of.06:46
KrisI'd recommend a 300mhz or higher cpu in my experience running it06:46
blankyin console how do I list the processes06:46
lysisM_Cheevy, i don't want to upgrade until either the AMD M2 chipset is out and their athlon XPs are cheaper, OR intel comes out with their processors that have virtualization built in. (both in 2Q of 06)06:46
charlesI don't know how to change it back to 44006:46
KrisI've got a 500mhz box that runs it with no probs06:46
cafuegob00gz: If it's not supported it's not supported... short of writing a driver yourself there's nothing you can do about it.06:46
lysisi'm not sure which route i want to go . . . but built in VT would be KICK AY!06:46
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Vaske_Carand for security it it enought to have router and firestarte or I should install realtime antivirus scanner too?06:46
sellstonyyarusso: yeap, not fun06:46
b00gzcafuego: what about getting ndiswrapper to work?06:46
teamorphby the way How to run my avi's DivX 5.006:46
M_Cheevywell folks.. having definately problems with CD/DVD ejects... icon shows up on the desktop, but when I close all apps using the drive I still can't eject.   if I use the terminal and 'sudo eject' though it works... from what I've gathered this is not a good way to do it..  any ideas where I start to need to fix this?06:46
ReNt-2-OwNhow do i login as root06:46
sellstonyyarusso: i cant get xmms to play them,  cant get amarok to play them06:47
intelikeyMrProper_ dsl is nice.   i've ran it on a p1 with 32m ram and 100m hd  :)06:47
cafuegoVaske_Car: On a normal ubuntu desktop install you need neither a firewall nor anti-virus.06:47
poningruReNt-2-OwN: why do you want to login as root?06:47
sellstonyyarusso: i pulled them directly from my ipod06:47
poningruwe use sudo06:47
Vaske_Cari know that new version come with firestarte06:47
cafuego!tell teamorph -about restrictedformats06:47
poningrubut if you really want to06:47
ReNt-2-OwNponingru: for admin privileges06:47
poningru!tell ReNt-2-OwN about root06:47
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lysisok . . . wtf.  i am having SERIOUS effing problems with my flash drive.06:47
Vaske_Carbut im not sure if ubuntu should be protected from viruses as well06:47
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poningruReNt-2-OwN: did you get that?06:47
MrProper_intelikey, yeah, its just nice to have a distro now and again that you can just add on basic x with twm with xterm ehhe06:48
sellstonyyarusso: now amarok won't even start up06:48
lysisi delete everything on it.  i empty trash.  it shows 480mb free.  i copy a bunch of stuff over to it (windows exe files)   i put it in a laptop i'm repairing.   it has NONE of the files.06:48
ReNt-2-OwNponingru: yes06:48
lysisrm: cannot lstat `.Trash-lysis/Utilities/Trend Micro PC-Cillin Internet Security 2005/p\n|l.': Input/output error06:48
Krisok i've installed tightvnc server on my ubuntu box, but it won't start because a font is missing. How do I get fonts for ubuntu?06:48
teamorphRestrictedformats?06:48
cafuegoVaske_Car: No, windows viruses don't affect Linux.06:48
MrProper_sells, i have found amarok to be a piece of dog crap if you have any sizable amount of music (like over 5-10gig) using the default sqllite06:48
eclairteamorph: mp3s, etc are restricted formats06:48
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cafuegoVaske_Car: (apart from the odd IIS exploit probe request)06:48
lysisthat's what happens when i try deleting the .Trash-lysis folder on my drive.  any help PLEASE?   CRUZERmini is the drive i've got. 512mb06:49
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teamorphOk! i'll try do it. THX06:49
Vaske_Carehehe06:49
intelikeyi'm so minimalist. i even remove 'base system' from my linux.06:49
KrisLinux is just as vulnerable to viruses as Windows, the difference is that no self respecting hacker wants to take the time to write a virus for linux :p06:49
Badm4nafter i do at-get install centericq | why it wont be auto reconnect on disconnect... any idea ( ubuntu 5.10 )06:49
sellsMrProper: cool. just dont understand, cant get my .m4a files to play on nothing in linux06:49
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tonyyarussosells: I found these packages that seem related: bmp-mp4 faad gstreamer0.8-faad libfaad2-0 libmp4v2-0 xmms-mp406:49
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tonyyarussosells: Any of that useful?06:49
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servoehi06:49
pashawKris,  you did what?   remote desktop should have been preinstalled on Ubuntu  you didnt need to add another VNC server06:49
sellstonyyarusso: will try, thanks a bunch06:50
charlesAny advice on fixing my sudo?06:50
teamorphkaffeine, ammaroke - enough for movies06:50
Krispashaw cool, how do I use it? >.<06:50
Krisor better yet, where do I find instructions lol06:50
pashawKris,   System-> Prefs-> Remote Desktop06:50
Vaske_CarKris you from Canada?06:50
cafuegoKris: Actually no, it's inherently more secure.06:50
M_Cheevyteamorph: personally I prefer xine over kaffiene06:50
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Krispashaw, my linux box is behind my christmas tree is there a command line version I can access from ssh?06:51
intelikeyKris really linux is not as 'vulnerable to viruses as Windows' but it is vulnerable to viruses.06:51
sciboyHey guys, taking a second try at trying to get my Epson C45 to print ANYTHING. I am running Debian Unstable but i am yet to find a solution even after enquiring in #debian. I look at dmesg after plugging it in and this shows up. "lp: driver loaded but no devices found", also running lsusb "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer".06:51
KrisVaske_Car, nope, Portland, Oregon, USA06:51
b00gzhow do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up06:51
cafuegosciboy: go to http://localhost:631/ and run through the 'Add Printer' wizard. Done.06:51
Kristhere is less threat of viruses on linux because there are less people actively seeking out security holes in it06:51
cafuegosciboy: (make sure CUPS is installed)06:52
charleslysis... you responded earlier.  Any advice?06:52
sciboycafuego: Dude, i've done that, over 60 times now.06:52
Badm4nhello06:52
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cafuegoKris: Actually I think there are rather more.06:52
servoeWiFI Question: I have Ralink, I entered the stanza from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo#wpa, and typed sudo ifdown ra0 && ifup ra0, and I got: ""ifdown: interface ra0 not configured "" ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied"06:52
DShepherdgreat!. now I have no firefox and no yelp :(. anyways... thanks pashaw, Toba and _jason.06:52
servoe:/06:52
teamorphM-Cheevy - thx a lot06:52
lysischarles, what's the problem buddy? sorry.  i ran into one of my own.  i saw "how should i fix my sudo"06:52
M_Cheevyanyone feel up to debugging a cd/dvd eject permissions problem?06:52
intelikeykris that's not the only thing the write permissions of the fs help too06:52
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M_Cheevyteamorph: no worries06:52
TobaDShepherd: np06:52
sciboycafuego: "Printer State: stopped, accepting jobs, published. "06:52
jrattner1Is the new firefox in the repositories?06:52
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teamorph;-)06:52
sciboycafuego: Can't get it to even print a test page.06:52
cafuegosciboy: Start teh printer06:52
Badm4nafter i do at-get install centericq | why it wont be auto reconnect on disconnect... any idea ( ubuntu 5.10 )06:52
sciboycafuego: It Stops a second later.06:53
Jeeves_mossfrogzoo:  you there man?06:53
SweetestSavageQuestion: What exactly is the big difference between distributions? And, could some examples be provided?06:53
charlesI screwed up my permissions and am getting this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044006:53
lysishmmm06:53
charlesand I need to get the sudo back06:53
sciboycafuego: It shows no signs of activity, and mtink is able to check ink levels fine. =/06:53
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b00gzhow do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up06:53
lysisdo you have a ubuntu LIVE CD available?06:53
KaltherzHi !!06:53
Krisok ok fine I'll dig out my linux box and attempt to get to the desktop06:53
charlesyes06:53
teamorphsee ya guys!06:54
Kaltherzsee ya...06:54
Kriscya teamorph06:54
Jeeves_mossfrogzoo:  you still breathing?06:54
sciboycafuego: People have reported success with this printer with multiple gutenprint drivers, so i'm putting my money more into a connection/detection issue of some sort.06:54
eclairteamorph: see ya06:54
KaltherzMy question is... Is there anyway to run kde in ubuntu ?06:54
lysischarles, boot off of the live cd.  open a terminal.   sudo -s       the password is blank.             type chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers           that SHOULD fix.06:54
SweetestSavageQuestion: Does anyone know how to compile WINE in 32-bit mode on Ubuntu AMD64?06:54
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intelikeycharles have you tried 'chmod 440 /etc/sudoers ' ?06:55
SweetestSavagecafuego, oh don't worry =P I know, I know.06:55
Vaske_Carwhat should I install to be able to access and have Cpanel on my linux server?06:55
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charlesintelikey: yes... and get this: chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted06:55
lysisVaske_Car, you would need to PURCHASE Cpanel from cpanel.06:55
KaltherzMy question is... Is there anyway to run kde in ubuntu ?06:55
sciboycafuego: "lp: driver loaded but no devices found06:56
Krisok I've got the ubuntu remote desktop running, now how do i actually connect to it from my windows box?06:56
sciboy" is my only lead at the moment.06:56
SweetestSavagecafuego, it's eventually going to be the higher-end CPU (64-bit, that is) once more support for it is available, so I decided to jump on the early-bandwagon06:56
lysisintelikey, he can't SU or SUDO to do so.  he needs to boot off of the ubuntu live cd to easily do this.  he stated he has one so i gave him directions to do so.06:56
jah_raztahfor those whom have tried ubuntu dapper flight cd 2 can someone tell me if it's stable enough to use06:56
Vaske_Cariysis: is there anything open source that is similar and can be used to manage and install forum?06:56
pashawKaltherz, yes  install Kubuntu instead, or  apt -> kde   or  apt -> kubuntu-desktop   think that covers it06:56
charlesthanks lysis... I'll try that and will be back  if it doesn't work.06:56
intelikeyk making sure you didn't own it too... charles you will have to boot to single and run the chmod then reboot.06:56
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Kaltherz...06:56
lysischarles, come back and let us know either way.06:56
Kaltherzcan be...06:56
charleswill do. thanks.06:56
jrattner1Is the new firefox in the repositories06:57
lysisanytime. :)06:57
b00gzhow do I install pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up06:57
Kaltherzand now another thing06:57
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ReNt-2-OwNif i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all06:57
Kaltherzdo you know who the hell can i catch xmule or amule ?06:57
lysisintelikey, if he would've owned it it wouldn't hvae given him the "Operation not permitted" error. :)06:57
batmanok this is a dumb question but how do i access phpmyadmin when i have it installed?06:57
Vaske_Carlysis: is there anything open source that is similar and can be used to manage and install forum?06:57
tonyyarusso!tell jrattner1 about firefox1506:57
Krisbatman, you go to the directory you installed it to on your web server06:57
lysisVaske_Car, if you just want a FORUM, use phpbb    it's free and works on linux.06:58
intelikeylysis yes it will.  the mod 777 trips the error.06:58
SweetestSavageQuestion: What kind of support does Ubuntu have for hardware sound-card acceleration? I can't seem to install my sound-card.. and it's using software acceleration right now, which is really laggy and slow06:58
Vaske_Caralso when I install cpanel do I need to run separately MySql server or Cpanel control and install it automatically06:58
b00gzhow do I install WPC11 pcmcia wireless card after putting it in after boot up06:58
lysisintelikey, hmmm  . . . i didn't think that could happen.  why would mod 777 break it?06:58
Krisso if it's installed to /documentroot/phpMyAdmin/ you would go to http://mywebsite/phpMyAdmin/06:58
Krisetc06:58
M_Cheevyhow do I get a quick list of who's using a device?06:58
batmanKris, well.. i go to synaptic and search for phpmyadmin it shows i have it installed but when i search for phpmyadmin in the search it doesn't come up o.O06:58
intelikeylysis security test06:58
Krisdunno what to tell you batman, I always install it manually06:59
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Kaltherzpashaw, do you know of any other repository to add ?06:59
batmanKris, do you know where i can find a guide to install it manually?06:59
Krisyes, check the phpmyadmin web site06:59
ReNt-2-OwNif i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all06:59
batmanKris, does it go through the steps on a linux server though07:00
Krishttp://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php07:00
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Krisit's the same on both windows and linux07:00
sciboycafuego: CUPSYS Web Administration Error: server-error-device-error07:00
intelikeyif it is 777 it is world writable lysis which is vertually the same as $USER=root  because anyone can modify the file that allows root access.   so sudo fails if it is ##4 or higher.07:00
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Kristo install it you must first have a web server (preferably apache) and a database (preferably MySQL) running07:01
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pppoe_dudehi anyone know why when I try to delete songs from my mp3 player (usb) they stay on the device but don't show when the device is mounted?07:01
pppoe_dude(its a vfat fs07:01
pashawKalthers, Help-> starter guide-> installing apps       scroll down Universe/Multiverse     and/or  use Automatix07:01
Kriscan anyone help me figure out how to use the remote desktop server that comes with ubuntu?07:01
lysisintelikey, interesting . . .   so if the sudo ?program? (binary whatever it's called) is set for world useage then that would be a security error and you wouldn't be able to run it because the kernel knows better?07:01
biovoreanyone know when xorg 7.0 will be used in the current release?07:01
pppoe_dudethanks07:01
Kaltherzi have added both Universe/Multiverse07:02
intelikeylysis not the binary  but the config file /etc/sudoers   yes07:02
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Kaltherzbut i will try with automatix07:02
lysisintelikey, ok config file . . .   see without file extension i'm still always a bit confused as to what is what.07:02
pppoe_dudeon ubuntu it seems as if the files deleted fine,07:02
pppoe_dudebut they still play on the mp3 player07:02
intelikeythe binary /usr/bin/sudo is world exec07:02
pashawKaltherz,  you then did a reload  in Synapti07:02
pppoe_dudeubuntu just doesnt see them anymore07:03
lysispashaw, i'm told that automatix shouldn't be recommended as it has several issues and may sometimes break machines.07:03
Kaltherzbut...07:03
servoeWiFI Question: I have Ralink, I entered the stanza from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo#wpa, and typed sudo ifdown ra0 && ifup ra0, and I got: ""ifdown: interface ra0 not configured "" ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: Permission denied"07:03
pashawlysis,   fair enough07:03
lysisalthough myself on the other hand don't have problems with it other than it not installing all of the software i request. :)07:03
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lysisfabbione, i thank you . . .07:04
pashawlysis, yeah i used it today again and all went fine for me07:04
intelikeylysis rule of thumb on that binaries are in *bin/   there are exceptions of course.07:04
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lysispashaw, it just didn't install silly things like limewire and azureus.  other than that i'm golden.07:04
pppoe_dudeanyone07:04
ReNt-2-OwNif i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 message" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all07:04
pppoe_dudetried google to no avail07:04
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UncleDAnyone here running named on their ubuntu machine and using it as a nameserver for domains to point to?07:04
Krispashaw, could you help me figure out how to use this remote desktop thing you pointed me to?07:04
pashawlysis, same here  just went after the basics07:05
Kaltherzthanks a lot pashaw07:05
lysispashaw, ahh . . .07:05
Kaltherzi must leave07:05
biovoreanyone know when xorg 7.0 will be used in the current release?07:05
Kaltherzbye bye !!07:05
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pashawKris, ok   i havent used it myself  take a sec to give it a go07:05
mrkojeUncleD, thats on my list of things to do07:06
lysisintelikey, that makes sense . . .    i just still sometimes have problems with all the different things.  like, if you download a program, you can just put the program into the /usr/local/bin and it'll work without having to install it sometimes07:06
lysischarles how'd that work?07:06
Krisok thanks07:06
charleswell, I'm running on the live cd now and did the sudo -s thing07:06
lysisyes07:06
lysisthe password should be blank, so just press enter.07:06
charlesI'm in root now, but nothing is happening when I type in chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers07:06
intelikeyif it's an executable lysis yes.07:06
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lysisintelikey, so files in linux that are executable don't require other files to run?  ALL of the stuff is in there?  no "dll" files or anything it would maybe reference out of it's own tar.gz folder?07:07
intelikeycharles   in linux  no error means no error.07:07
charlesokay... I'll restart and see if it worked.07:07
lysisyou should be A OK :)07:07
mrkojebreak in service?07:07
intelikeycharles  ls -l the file to make sure07:07
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lysisit'll probably last for several hours.07:08
lysismaybe even days. (mrkoje)07:08
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ReNt-2-OwNif i go under System > Administration and try to run anything it says "Failed to run 'thing i tryed to run' as root: Child terminated with 1 status" and now some things work and others just give me the busy cursor for a minute and not start at all07:08
intelikeymight save a reboot or two07:08
charlesokay... you'll have to interpret this for me (sorry... noob) it says -r--r-----07:08
MadpilotReNt-2-OwN: have you read the RootSudo wiki page?07:08
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XchimaeraXthat is right charles07:08
mrkojelysis, they say there just restarting the machines....07:09
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mrkojelysis, we shall see07:09
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pashawKris,  too easy  :P   enable the sharing in the remote app      then use the windows VNCviewer  type in the ip address of the ubuntu box  and connect07:09
lysismrkoje, i still suggest we prepare with enough food and water just in case.07:09
mrkojelysis,  I don't know what I'll do with out my irc....07:10
ReNt-2-OwNmadpilot: i know i must put sudo in front of a command to run it as admin but im not using the terminal, only the GUI07:10
intelikeyReNt-2-OwN you didn't set your root fs /  to mount  'nosuid' did you ?    and are we talking gnome or what desktop ?07:10
Kriswindows VNC viewer?07:10
lysismrkoje, thank god i use two servers at once. ;)07:10
ReNt-2-OwNintelikey: im not sure, how do i find out?07:10
pashawKris, you said you downloaded a VNC app right?07:10
intelikeyReNt-2-OwN cat /etc/fstab07:10
Krisyes07:10
mrkojelysis,  what other good servers are out there?07:10
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MadpilotReNt-2-OwN: when the GUI stuff asks for a pw, they're using sudo too - use your own user pw07:10
Krisare they all compatable then?07:10
mrkojelysis,  I find this is the best tech server....07:10
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ReNt-2-OwNmadpilot: it doesnt ask for a password07:10
pashawKris, yes07:11
lysismrkoje, i also chat with friends on 2600.  they're quite helpful with general linux questions that i'd rather not bother you with.   ubuntu on freenode is the BEST for ubuntu though. :)07:11
mrkojelysis,  Ive been on 2600 but its always dead....07:11
MadpilotReNt-2-OwN: try starting Synaptic - System - Admin - Synaptic - it should ask for a pw, and you'll use your regular user pw07:11
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mrkojelysis,  well it is when I'm on anyway07:12
Krishmmmm07:12
pashawKris, ??07:12
Krisit says please wait, initial screen loading07:12
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lysismrkoje, i'm in ohio, so luckily my state has the second most popular channel. :)07:12
lysisit's usually dead until late late like now.07:12
lysisnow there's 3 of us chatting out of the 30 in the room. *laughs*07:12
tonyyarusso!plf07:12
ubotuplf is probably the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only07:12
mrkojelysis,  Last time I was on 2600 I didn't even see a texas channel07:12
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ReNt-2-OwNmadpilot: Synaptic Package Manager?07:13
MadpilotReNt-2-OwN: that's the one07:13
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pashawKris,   did you make sure "ASK you for CONFIRMATION"  is not checked on the ubuntu box07:13
ReNt-2-OwNintelikey: i ran that command, what should i look for?07:13
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(ejofee/#ubuntu) why can't i find azureus in any repo?!09:25
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(anacaona/#ubuntu) ejofee: been asking myself the same question...09:25
(M_Cheevy/#ubuntu) project23: plus I began to realise how much hal, udev, and pmount have to do with the automount system.. add kde3.5 to the mix after kunbuntu and it gets really scootched up09:25
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M_Cheevyawstott: could be any number of things... have you tried reconfiguring your xserver?09:26
awstottI havn't changed any settings or anything09:26
awstotteverything is all default09:27
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awstottthis box runs fine on hoary, and sarge09:27
ejofeeanacaona: let's insist... maybe somebody knows the answer :)09:27
awstottbut as soon as i put breezy on it locks up09:27
M_Cheevyawstott: I'd kill the gdm processes... kill X with the old alt+ctrl+bksp and then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if that works better09:27
M_Cheevyawstott: wait a sec.. you put this on top of sarge??09:28
anacaonaejofee: i installed it from reps once, but i've since changed my sources.list so many times...09:28
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awstottno09:28
awstottI wiped sarge off09:28
ejofeeanacaona: i know it used to be on a repo, but it has been removed09:28
M_Cheevyanacaona: never delete from your sources unless you have to.. always comment it out.. that way you can find it again09:28
M_Cheevyawstott: phew!09:29
SweetestSavageCan someone please answer this question: How do I do this.. checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one <--- ??09:29
awstottlol09:29
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M_Cheevyawstott:  still I'd kill the gdm stuff for the now, smash x on the head with a+c+b and then reconfig xserver09:29
lampshadehey everyone09:29
M_Cheevyyo lampshade09:30
mitrovarrhey everyone, I'm trying to get LIRC running, and I need a little help getting stuff set up09:30
mitrovarrI can get it running, but I need to feed it a ton of commands before it works.  I'm trying to get it to run on bootup09:30
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fit4lfedoes anyone have lundfxp ?09:31
M_Cheevymitrovarr: check the readme's.. there should be a config file somewhere09:31
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mitrovarrbasically before it works I have to do 'setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none' to kill the serial port, then modprobe lirc_serial and lirc_dev, then run lircd09:31
lampshadetesting my xchat colors09:32
M_Cheevymitrovar:  you could create a script along the lines of the /etc/init.d stuff........09:32
anacaonaM_Cheevy: fits of rage, my friend, fits of rage! ;-)09:32
GTroyanyone have a clue to why x-chat stopped working, but konversations does?09:32
GTroyI reinstalled but with no better effect09:33
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M_Cheevyanacaona: something along the lines of "Thanks for shining a searchlight on the already glaringly obvious?"09:33
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mitrovarrhmm, there's already a script there09:34
mitrovarrI guess it doesn't work though09:34
M_Cheevymitrovarr: depends, is it in the right runlevel? has it got the commands you need?09:35
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M_Cheevymitrovarr: before messing with those files directly, why not check the documentation and see if there is a config file you might use to set options?  use synaptic to see where it put what files09:35
mitrovarrthe lirc from synaptic just plain didn't work09:36
mitrovarrI had to compile from source09:36
anacaonaM_Cheevy: no, not really, just that i get a bit, um, passionate sometimes and instead of listening to that greek choir to my left i get all delete-happy09:36
mitrovarrgetting the modules to come out right was... unpleasant.09:36
M_Cheevywell then, you should know where the readme is  ;)09:36
M_Cheevyanacaona:  It'd be too much of a bear to switch to greek characters for the joke I had in  mind ;)09:37
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mitrovarrI think the main problem is that it's supposed to work without shutting off the serial port, but mine won't, so it can't start up automatically09:38
M_Cheevyand I always thought that it was paris that was burning09:38
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anacaonaM_Cheevy: plus, i failed greek in school. miserably09:40
M_Cheevyanacaona: that it was greek was half the joke.. hardly expected an obscure aristophanies line to register with many09:41
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anacaonaejofee: legend has it that azureus is available on universe09:42
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anacaonaejofee: tried packages.ubuntu.com?09:42
M_Cheevyokay, maybe time to shift keister....09:42
MorgWhy is it that audio doesn't usually work when there is more than one program trying to play sound?09:42
MorgAnd why might videos and flash not play audio after I've used another application that plays audio?09:43
anacaonahowto multiple sounds at once : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10112509:43
MorgErr, videos and flash in Firefox09:43
anacaonaMorg - that might help ya09:43
awstottwell I didn't break anything :)09:44
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awstottwe shall see if it freezes up again09:44
awstotthehe09:44
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linlinhi im looking for info to get a soundblaster pro 5.1 live gold edition sound card working any way possible.09:45
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ELpH95oI've actually started liking linux thanks to ubuntu and gentoo09:45
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intelikeyELpH95o i'm not sure how gentoo helped that.....09:47
awstottgentoo scared me when I first booted it up09:47
awstotthavn't touched it since09:48
intelikeywell actually i'm not sure how ub helped that either...09:48
ejofeeanacaona: could you please send me the etc/apt entry for packages.ubuntu.com?09:48
ejofeeanacaona: (although i am pretty much sure i have everything -- i collected all sources from source-o-matic09:48
ejofee)09:48
ELpH95oi usually compile my own stuff09:49
ejofeeanacaona: the legend is false, anyway.09:49
ELpH95othat's the part of linux that's fun09:49
ejofeeanacaona: it used to be true, indeed.09:49
mitrovarrwhen stuff actually compiles :-p09:49
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anacaonapackages.ubuntu.com just lets you search the official repos09:50
anacaonaand i just tried it, no azureus09:50
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awstottI wanna get mythtv goin on my box....09:50
awstotthaving a helluva time tho09:50
intelikeyhmmm i'm wondering what is having to time out in kde ....  it is really problematic with / = nosuid09:51
ELpH95oi'm from bsd land09:53
intelikeywell it finally timed out and everything is working ok,  but i wish it would have given an error message.09:53
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ELpH95omite, :i feel quite comfy in linux although im new to it09:53
ejofeeELpH95o: which bsd?09:54
intelikeyyeah bsd land knows about  / nosuid   and  / nodev   :)09:54
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robotgeekhi, my wireless card is able to associate with a network. however, it's not able to get an ip from the router. any ideas? (i'm on dapper)09:56
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project23try it without any security first (no wep). It might be bad wep keys09:56
QQ_ghosthas anyone set up a LAM using ubuntu?09:56
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tiglionabbithttp://pastebin.com/474743   What is this file?  My computer locked up while I was editing a file in vim, and it created this file named after myfile.23.greg09:57
intelikeylol  most  people that use it have.09:57
proubucan i get some help please? im trying to install vmware on breezy and i have problems with the linux headers, it says  kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running09:57
proubukernel (version 2.6.10-5-386) so i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i got this Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-38609:57
funkyHatQQ_ghost, Local Area Motorbike?09:57
funkyHat;)09:58
QQ_ghostfunkyHat: lol... LA was right, M=Multicomputer09:58
SweetestSavageHow do I open directories with a space in the name? IE, "Name With A Space" in the terminal?09:58
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funkyHatSweetestSavage, escape the space with a \ before it09:58
mitrovarrhit tab to let it complete it for you?09:58
funkyHati.e. file\ name09:59
niffehow do i see if i have "pcmcia" service stared at system boot?09:59
intelikeyescape the space  this\ is\ how09:59
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intelikeyor quote  "this is how"09:59
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funkyHatniffe, try /etc/init.d/pcmcia status10:00
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cbx33what package do i download to get the kernel source for ubunutu10:00
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niffefunkyHat: hmm, it says ok. But still there is no power on light, on my wlan card10:01
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ejofeeif i use packages from "dapper, the drake", will that break my "breezy, the badger"?10:01
proubuplease, i need help with that :P10:02
fit4lfe!chroot10:02
ubotuhmm... chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457510:02
funkyHatejofee, if you add dapper's repositories to your breezy install, you are likely to break your system10:02
ejofeeproubu: with what?10:02
intelikeyhmmm says sound server failed  cpu overload aborting   but it's still got something timming out...10:02
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proubuejofee, im trying to install vmware in breezy, i just read wiki but i got a problem...10:03
ejofeefunkyHat: what if i install only un-essential packages (on which (almost) no other packages depend)10:03
proubuejofee, it says  kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running10:03
proubuproubu kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386)10:03
FlannelKinganyone had any luck setting up apache/svn with the apache web data being updated from a subversion repo?10:03
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funkyHatejofee, if you download a package from dapper's repositories and install it using dpkg, you are very unlikely to break your system, but you may find the package does not work10:04
ejofeeproubu: install a matching one!10:04
proubuejofee,  so i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i got this Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-38610:04
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ejofeeproubu: you'll surely find it in apt-get10:04
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proubuejofee, nope =(10:04
ELpH95owhat is the addy to dapper's repositories10:04
henkjoin #colinux10:04
henksorry10:04
ejofeeproubu: find it manually, maybe there's some difference10:04
ELpH95ovmware..m..u got vmware?10:04
ejofeeproubu: compare uname -r to whatever you see in, say, synaptic10:05
proubuejofee, yeah i did that too but it's not in synaptic either :S10:05
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ejofeemaybe you forgot to update the kernel?10:06
proubuejofee, well i dont know how to do that10:06
intelikeyhehhe  /usr/bin/kdeinit --suicide  <-- what is this arg all about ?10:06
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ejofeeproubu: do you use synaptic?10:07
proubuejofee, yeah10:07
niffeok, so i have that error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/602510:07
ejofeeproubu: do you have the updates added to the sources repo list10:07
ejofeeproubu: ?10:07
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aeon17xI'm trying to compile something, but it gives me this error - "configure: error: *** Cannot compile without zlib.10:08
aeon17x"10:08
Chousukeinstall zlibg1-dev or something10:08
ejofeefunkyHat: are you implying i shouldn't do it with apt-get, but only with dpkg?10:08
proubuejofee, u mean /etc/apt/sources.list?10:08
funkyHatejofee, yes10:08
ejofeeproubu: yes, that's it's name10:09
ejofeeproubu: (as a file)10:09
funkyHatejofee, and if dependencies becomes a pain, I'd take that as a sign you shouldn't be doing that just yet ;)10:09
ejofeeproubu: add everything you find in ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:09
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ejofeefunkyHat: i should i avoid doing that with apt-get? how does it complicate things?10:10
aeon17xNow it complains about libpng.... so that's what the dev packages are for. Cool.10:10
proubuejofee, nice! so can i add the version of linux-headers that i need and then use apt-get?10:11
funkyHatejofee, you seem to know what you're talking about, so you're probably safe enough using apt-get to do what you want, just be careful you don't go upgrading core libs or anything10:11
intelikeyniffe interesting.  yet another thing i can use to say "that's why i don't like sudo"10:11
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zvenHow to play different tracks of VCD using totem?10:12
ejofeefunkyHat: right, i will surely not update core libs. thanks.10:12
intelikeyniffe what are you trying to get working?  wireless card ?10:12
GTroyanyone had any problems with x-chat?10:12
KiaNGTroy: what kinf of problem ?10:13
KiaNkind10:13
ejofeeGTroy: nope... what kind of problems?10:13
GTroyI can't connect to any server10:13
ejofeeproubu: not really10:13
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ejofeeproubu: first just add the sources from the link i gave you10:13
intelikeybx here10:13
niffeintelikey: yes10:13
ejofeeproubu: then "sudo apt-get update"10:13
KiaNi have no problem and i'm been using X-chat on Ubuntu for a while10:13
GTroyKiaN:hmmm10:13
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GTroyI reinstalled and no fix10:13
ejofeeproubu: then pres "reload" in synaptic, just in case.10:14
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OceanbornWell.. I have VCD with 3 tracks.. Totem plays only 1st track, but how to play 3rd?10:14
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Neihello, could someone tell me how to set my vc background colour to white?10:14
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proubuejofee, ok, done10:15
ardchoillebbiab10:15
intelikeyniffe lsmod  should tell ya if the cs module is loaded or not and that just about all i know about pcmcia  and as for wireless..... hehhe i don't know if i could get a wire working let alone a wireless.10:15
intelikey!wifi10:16
ubotuwell, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:16
intelikey!wireless10:16
ubotumethinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards10:16
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intelikeyif that might help you any niffe ^10:17
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niffehehe, looking at it :)10:17
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GTroyhello talios10:17
intelikeynei vc ?  console ?10:18
Neiintelikey, yes my console10:18
taliosevening10:18
intelikeyyou want white !    *shivers*10:18
NeiI want white.10:18
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niffesudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules  it says permission denied!?10:21
Neisudo "..."10:21
Neielse it's (sudo echo) >>10:21
proubuejofee, now i need to re-try what i was doing?10:21
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niffeNei: what?10:22
ejofeeproubu: yes10:23
Neiniffe, the command will run as sudo only up to the >>10:23
cbx33anyone here installed unionfs on ubuntu???10:23
ejofeeproubu: but it's good to see what available updates you are getting and if there's any kernel among them10:24
intelikeyi don't think you will get that to work.  the echo will be root but it is on a term/console that std* is not root so   sudo echo blah > will not have root power10:24
ejofeecbx33: your quesion sounds rather like a warning!!! :)10:24
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niffeso, what to i have to type to make it work?10:24
proubuejofee, well i didnt get the linux-header version that i need to install vmware :S *sigh* i guess i'll need to recompile my kernel10:25
intelikeysudo -     then the command10:25
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ejofeeproubu: why recompile? why don't you just install 2.6.12-10-386?10:25
ejofeeproubu: (i guess yours is 2.6.12-9-386, right?)10:25
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proubuejofee, well, no... i have right now 2.6.12-10 installed but kernel has 2.6.10-5-38610:26
niffebtw, what is the default root password?10:26
cbx33ejofee, not so much of a warning more of a ./......it doesn't work on 5.0410:27
intelikey!root10:27
intelikey!+root10:27
ubotu[root]  disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:27
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correspondermoin10:27
studentHallo10:28
corresponder;-)10:28
ejofeecbx33: i see... what do you mean by "it doesn't work"?10:28
ejofeecbx33: won't boot?10:28
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dsaajsgotangco:> sir do u still have originally pressed ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu 5.10 CDs?10:29
jsgotangcodsaa, there's no kubuntu/edubuntu pressed just uubuntu10:29
cbx33ejofee, no you can't install it10:29
cbx33make error10:29
ejofeecbx33: oh, i see.10:30
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cbx33I'm just doing a dist-pugrade10:30
intelikeyniffe if you wish to set the password for root it is simple to do.  sudo passwd       and when it prompts give your passwd then read what it says.    the official "ubuntu" policy is to not even tell people that.... but i don't use ubuntu.10:31
niffeok10:31
niffehmm, cant get this linksys wpc54g working :/10:31
ejofeeintelikey: what do you use instead?10:31
ejofeeintelikey: debian?10:32
dsaajsgotangco:> ok, do u still have copies of originally pressed ubuntu 5.10 CDs? could u share some to me?10:32
awstott5.10? thats hoary right?10:32
intelikeyejofee mdk10:32
jsgotangcodsaa, where are you located10:32
pinucsetone think, how can i do that enemy territory runs with sudo always? it seems doesnt work without10:32
ejofeeintelikey: why don't you switch to mdv? :P10:33
dsaajsgotangco:> currently im using edubuntu here in our school in tacurong city, sultan kudarat10:33
intelikeydialup10:33
intelikeyhehhe and why upgrade something that works to something that almost works lol10:33
ejofeeintelikey: then why are you on this channel?10:33
jsgotangcodsaa, hmmm join us in #ubuntu-ph10:34
proubuejofee, well im done for today... couldnt install it =( thanks for ur help10:34
ejofeeproubu: couldn't install what?10:34
intelikeyejofee is that an invetation for me to leave ?10:34
ejofeeproubu: the new kernel?10:34
ejofeeintelikey: NO!!!10:34
dsaajsgotangco:> ok, how?10:34
ejofeeintelikey: not at all10:34
intelikeywell just like trying to help.10:34
jsgotangcodsaa, type /j ubuntu-ph10:34
jsgotangcoerr10:34
jsgotangcodsaa, type /j #ubuntu-ph10:35
proubuejofee, lol no, the vmware...10:35
ejofeeintelikey: i am just curious what you find so interesting about ubuntu that you attend this chan without even using ubuntu10:35
proubuejofee, just got this always10:35
proubuejofee, The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.12-10) does not match your running10:35
proubukernel (version 2.6.10-5-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully,it would not load into the running kernel.10:35
intelikeyand i have wasted a lot of time with linux so i can answer some questions no matter what the distro.10:35
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ejofeeproubu: why don't you install 2.6.12-10-386, as i said earlier?10:35
ejofeeproubu: are you ignoring my suggestions? :P10:35
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proubuejofee, lol no... i'll try that10:36
intelikeyejofee this channel.   :)10:36
ejofeeproubu: btw, are you using breezy? (i guess i should have asked you this much earlier)10:36
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proubuejofee, yep im using breezy10:36
ejofeeproubu: then please reread what i said earlier, i won't say it again :)10:36
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intelikeyejofee that's the only thing i like about ubuntu.   this channel.   lol10:36
proubuejofee, about 2.6.12-10-386?10:37
ejofeeproubu: i wonder how come you have installed 2.6.12-5-386 in breezy (?!)...10:37
ejofeeintelikey: well... that's... nice.10:37
ejofeeproubu: what about 2.6.12-10-386?10:37
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ejofeeproubu: oh, yes10:37
ejofeeproubu: what i wrote about that (not much).10:38
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proubuejofee, and i dont know why i have 2.6.12-5-386 in breezy, maybe it's cuz before the upgrade i had that10:38
ejofeeproubu: i think you should see it on the updates list10:38
ejofeeproubu: that may explain things.10:38
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intelikeyyep you can have multipel kernels installed10:39
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intelikeyand put them all in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  and boot any of them10:40
proubuejofee, is there a way to get 2.6.12-10-386 besides apt-get? cuz i just need them installed to install vmware and then i dont need them anymore10:40
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agorfhello. when installing ubuntu, should i mark my / partition as bootable?10:41
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intelikeyagorf that's not nessarry10:41
agorfthx10:42
intelikeyagorf the boot loader will be installed to mbr ?10:42
agorfyes10:42
intelikeyyeah it wont matter then10:42
agorfso i only need swap, and a / partition ?10:43
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ejofeeproubu: i don't understand the question10:43
intelikeytechenically you only need /10:43
QQ_ghostis there a way to boot a cd on a system that won't do it through the bios?10:43
xiaogilwhat is the equivalent of power point on linux ?10:43
agorfgr8, thanks :)10:43
aeon17xxiaogil: OpenOffice.org Impress10:43
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ejofeeproubu: what's the problem if you keep it installed?10:44
intelikeyswap is optional, but the installer may cry without it.10:44
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xiaogilaeon17x: is it compatible with power point ?10:44
ejofeeintelikey: any idea why, when booting single user, it asks for a password and won't accept any?10:45
aeon17xxiaogil: to a certain extent, yes.10:45
ejofeexiaogil: mostly, yes10:45
proubuejofee, well, actually i dont have problems if i keep it installed but i cant download/get 2.6.12-5-386 and i need it to install vmware :S10:45
intelikeyejofee no.  that should never happen.  booting to single user it should auto login root10:46
QQ_ghostso OOo impress functions now? holy crap...10:46
ejofeeproubu: as long as you need the right headers... i don't see any other solution (and still keeping your apt-get consistent)10:46
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intelikeyto console   tty1  of course10:46
proubuejofee, yeah, i guess that too... *sigh*10:47
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MadpilotQQ_ghost: apparently it functions as well as MS PowerPoint, for whatever that's worth... ;)10:47
ejofeeQQ_ghost: had issues with it?10:47
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ejofeeproubu: sorry.10:47
ejofeeproubu: it's better to update anyway.10:47
QQ_ghostMadpilot: yeah, back in like, 1.0 / 1.110:47
proubuejofee, hehe yeah.... well, thanks for ur help man =)10:48
ejofeeQQ_ghost: well, now it's 2.0... things *may* have changed, right? :)10:48
QQ_ghostMadpilot: sorry comment was for ejofee...10:48
ejofeeproubu: anytime :)10:48
proubugnight all10:48
icbuis azureus packaged as part of synaptic? If so how do I find it please?10:48
ejofeeQQ_ghost: i detected it it had been for me10:48
ejofee:)10:48
QQ_ghostejofee: hope so, everything else is more functional than i need10:49
MadpilotQQ_ghost: never used Impress, but OOo2 Writer is far nicer than OOo1 to use...10:49
ejofeeQQ_ghost: right :P10:49
intelikey!azureus10:50
ubotuI guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo10:50
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QQ_ghostMadpilot: i mostly use spreadsheet stuff, but i have been wanting to put together a presentation...10:50
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QQ_ghostis it possible to boot to cd from grub?10:52
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intelikeyyes10:52
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QQ_ghostintelikey: (me?)10:52
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RakshakCan anyone tell me how to make a custom live CD?10:53
intelikeyyeah but don't ask me to do it for you QQ_ghost i did it one time with lilo but never with grub, but i know it can be done.10:53
kestascreatecustomlivecd.sh ?10:53
Rakshakdoes that sh command work, really?10:53
QQ_ghostintelikey: is there a how-to page?10:53
marcelI'm trying to install ubuntu on a ppc 7600/200 but the CD wont boot. What gives?10:53
Rakshakon ubuntu forums?10:53
intelikeyQQ_ghost man gurb10:54
intelikeyit should have the howto boot a cd in there10:54
kestasmarcel, Im pretty sure that's too old10:54
marcelok10:54
marcel:(10:54
niffehow can i change resolution?10:54
kestastry g3+10:54
QQ_ghostintelikey: thanx10:54
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ejofeeintelikey: are you sure it can? i thought all bootloaders leave bios that choice10:54
olicatany ideas on how i can connect to a vpn in ubuntu breezy?10:55
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intelikeybeing a lilo man myself and having set up lilo to boot a cd, and being in a channel that is owned by grub zealots, if i said lilo could and grub couldn't i'd probably get kicked......10:56
intelikeyejofee if you are asking have i ever done it,  see above.  the answer is no.10:57
kestasintelikey, Im no grub zealot but grub can boot a cd10:57
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QQ_ghostintelikey: i like lilo too, but i don't have it installed...10:57
ejofeeintelikey: no, i am not asking you that :)10:57
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QQ_ghostkestas: where can i obtain the info on that?10:58
opossumhallo@all10:58
intelikeypossum10:58
opossumim from germany10:58
QQ_ghostkestas: where can i obtain the info to use grub to boot a cd?10:59
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opossumhi10:59
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n37hi <3'z ;>11:00
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opossumspricht hie jemand deutsch?11:00
cricekHmm guys 1 question my /dev/sda links somehow dissapeared from /dev11:00
cricekhow do I get em back ?11:00
n37any1 knows what distribution i must download of mysql?11:00
kestasQQ_ghost, hmm I thought it could but I guess I was thinking about grub on a floppy or CD, apparently grub on a HDD can't for some reason11:00
intelikeyno english is all i speek11:00
kestasQQ_ghost, better go with lilo I guess11:00
n37mysql distro 4 ubuntu?11:01
n37any1 knows?11:01
n37:<11:01
opossumwhere do you com from inteli?11:01
QQ_ghostkestas:  i suppose i could install lilo on ubuntu (OH THE HORROR!) from a slackware disk...11:01
intelikeycricek use something scsi or usb maybe11:02
QQ_ghostlol11:02
cricekintelikey, Hmm11:02
cricekscsi or usb :))11:02
cricekok11:02
intelikeyso udev will call modprobe11:02
cricekyeah I checked lspci11:02
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intelikeymodprobe will make them  and badabing there you go.11:02
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n37any help plz? :S11:03
ejofeeopossum: #ubuntu-de11:03
n37mysql on ubuntu?11:03
cricekmodprobe ???11:03
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n37!mysql11:03
ubotulamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP11:03
opossumejofee hi11:03
cricekbut modprobe ...only loads modules for kernel11:03
intelikey!mysql11:03
cricekintelikey,11:03
n37:>11:03
intelikeycricek heh11:04
cricekwhere do you have modules here11:04
n37!lampdownload11:04
ubotun37: Not a clue11:04
n37:/11:04
n37!lamp11:04
ubotulamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP11:04
n37rofl11:04
niffeHow can i change resolution from a command line?11:04
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cricek!usb11:04
ubotucricek: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:04
n37lmao!11:04
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intelikeycricek you haven't been using linux long have you ?11:04
QQ_ghostlol11:04
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n37!rofl11:05
ubotun37: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:05
n37!yay11:05
ubotun37: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:05
n37!sure11:05
ubotun37: What?11:05
n37!dunno11:05
ubotun37: Are you on ritalin?11:05
Madpilot!msg the bot11:05
cricekHmm intelikey ....evry day ...but suse not ubuntu11:05
n37!ritalinsux11:05
ubotun37: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:05
Madpilot!tell n37 about msg the bot11:05
n37omgthx :>11:05
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intelikeycricek well modprobe not only loads the module into the kernel(portion of mem) but part of the process is also calling MAKEDEV with all the proper major's and minor's  and alias's  so that the module is then usable.11:07
cricekHmm ok ...then there is only one question left ...11:08
cricekwhere do I get this module to load11:08
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icbuthanks intelikely - installed and working :)11:08
xukunanybody know a software to emulate cisco routers?11:09
intelikeylike i said access something scsi or maybe a usb stick and udev will (by calling modprobe) make the devices11:09
intelikeynp icbu   welcome11:09
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intelikeycricek if you dislike udev you can always disable it,  although that will require a reboot.   and you may find things that it did that you did like and will want back.11:11
intelikeyudev is the reason the /dev/sd* files are not there....11:11
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cricekintelikey, ok ...11:12
xukunanybody running user mode linux(uml)?11:14
cricektnx intelikey11:14
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intelikeycricek one other thing.  if you check /.dev/  there may be the device you are looking for there.  ubuntu mounted the real /dev on /.dev in 5.04  i don't know if that changed or not.11:14
QQ_ghostxukun: what's the url for uml?11:15
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zosologistim a linux noob and i d/led ubuntu about 4 days ago, the amd 64 version, and i found out that making flash player amongst other programs work is a bitch so i decided to down grade to the 32 bit one and ive got a few questions11:15
Mabus06The media keys for my keyboard stopped working when I replaced the batteries, any ideas?11:15
xukunQQ_ghost, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/11:15
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intelikeyi need to know that i guess.   would someone with a default breezy install do a ls /.dev  and see if the dir exists for me please.11:16
intelikey?11:16
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cello_raspare the universe and multiverse repositories available on downloadable images in any form?11:16
Mabus06intelikey, no directory for that here11:16
Lukianintelikey: that returns nothing here11:16
trevorvwhats the name of the package that contains tools like "make"? i dont seem to have it installed.11:16
foxerfgf11:16
zosologistnope11:16
foxerdfd11:16
foxerf11:16
foxerff11:16
intelikeyok they did drop it then.11:16
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intelikeythanks guys.11:17
bluefrog-10trevorv, build-essential11:17
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niffewho wants to fix my wlan connection with vnc? :)11:17
trevorvbluefrog-10, thankyou :)11:17
zosologistim a linux noob and i was wondering if theres any difference in the console commands between kde and gnome?11:17
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Madpilotzosologist: at the console level, no11:17
intelikey!b-e11:17
ubotuIf you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.11:17
bimberizosologist: none11:17
Lukianzosologist: you certainly are :D11:17
Mabus06The media keys for my keyboard stopped working when I replaced the batteries, any ideas?11:17
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Madpilotneed sleep - later, all11:18
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zosologistso kubuntu and ubuntu are vertually identical? minus the user interface of course11:19
PupenoIs Linux on Dapper compiled for real-time scheduling ?11:19
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Mabus06Can anyone help me with my keyboard issue? I tried resetting the keyboard shortcuts but no luck.11:19
Pupenozosologist: yes.11:19
intelikeyzosologist yep11:19
FlannelKingzosologist, and with the different interfaces comes a few different programs, but yeah, basically.11:19
niffeallways "no scan results" cant get this thing working!11:20
Madpilotzosologist: Ubuntu uses Gnome for the desktop; Kubuntu uses KDE11:20
xiaogilhow to install ubuntu on a laptop on which the cd drive doesn't work anymore ?11:20
Madpilotzosologist: and you can use programs from one on the other easily11:20
zosologistlol how do i wisper, its been so long since irc11:20
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Mabus06zosologist, /msg user message11:20
jsz_Lukian, do you go on austnet?11:20
Pupenois there a more proper channel to ask question regardig Dapper's Linux ?11:21
deFryskPupeno, perhaps ubuntu-motu if you canoot get an answer here11:22
PupenodeFrysk: maybe, but it'll be off-topic there.11:22
zosologistdoes kubunu use synaptic?11:22
deFryskzosologist, not by default11:23
intelikeyyes11:23
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Pupenozosologist: it doesn't install it by default.11:23
Mabus06wow, people like answering zosologist...11:23
Pupenoapt-get install synaptic and voila!11:23
deFryskzosologist, I think its wise to install it tho11:23
intelikeyMabus06 he asks the easy ones "_11:23
deFryskPupeno, perhaps try here ?11:24
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zosologistthats cause im awesome mabus0611:24
Mabus06no ideas about my keyboard problem, intelikey? I reset the keyboard shortcuts but previous and next track buttons stlil don't work anymore11:24
Mabus06pssst, zosologist, ask my question for me? ;)11:24
PupenodeFrysk: I already did.11:24
zosologistahhh lol those red things arent msg lol11:24
zosologistlol whats that mabus0611:24
deFryskPupeno, perhaps try asking again ?11:25
PupenoMabus06: maybe if you tell us what do you mean by reseting...11:25
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PupenoIs Linux on Dapper compiled for real-time scheduling ?11:25
albinoloveratsanyone think they might be able to help with an fstab problem?11:25
QQ_ghostxukun: wonder if you can use uml for lfs11:25
intelikeyMabus06 no sorry.11:25
QQ_ghostalbinoloverats: sure11:25
niffeany ideas hot to get thatn wlan working?`tried wverything now, driver and hardware present, but still, no scan results11:25
Mabus06Pupeno, I mean, set the keyboard shortcut for track next to my track next button11:25
ghuugwhere I can get repo for 5.10 ?11:26
ejofeedoes anybody know any repo with no-arch debian / ubuntu packages of apps written for java?11:26
maswanis there a small asclock-like clock for the panel?11:26
ghuugI want to download mplayer and vlc11:26
deFrysk!info vlc11:26
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB11:26
maswanthe standard clock isn't very convenient when you have a vertical panel11:26
deFrysk!info mplayer11:26
deFrysk!info mplayer-i58611:27
zosologistso... can i install synaptic throught kubuntu's packet manager11:27
QQ_ghostalbinoloverats: what's your prob in fstab?11:27
intelikeyzosologist yep11:27
albinoloveratsQQ_ghost: i cant mount my cdrom, i get "wrong fs type, bad option.superblock on /dev/hdc"11:27
zosologistand is there a problem upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu? or should i just get the kubunt iso?11:27
PupenoMabus06: I don't use Gnome, so, I don't know. But what happened to me is that depending how you configure X some key works and other don't, that is because X does mapping from key codes to key names (like 0x53 to XFree86Next) but if the keyboard doesn't emit that keycode, that name would never be triggered.11:27
funkyHatzosologist, you can also quickly install it from the command line, sudo apt-get install synaptic11:28
ghuugit says couldnt find package mplayer11:28
intelikeyalbinoloverats not an audio cd is it ?11:28
PupenoMabus06: for the keyboard I have know I could not find a model on X that mapped all the keys correctly.11:28
zosologistcool11:28
xukunQQ_ghost, I think so. google for it11:28
zosologistthanks funkyHat11:28
funkyHatzosologist, you can easily have ubuntu and kubuntu running on the same system11:28
albinoloveratsQQ_ghost: i deleted it a few days ago by accident, had to rewrite it but couldnt quite remember what the cd options were, i think theyre correct but it doesnt seem to work11:28
zosologistfunkyHat, tripple boot? lol11:28
QQ_ghostalbinoloverats: what's in your type field?11:28
Mabus06Pupeno, but when I clicked to set a new shortcut for track previous, and hit my track previous button, it looked like it worked. Does that say anything?11:28
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funkyHatzosologist, lol, no, on the same linux installation11:29
albinoloveratsQQ_ghost: iso9660,udf11:29
zosologistfunkyHat: do tell? or point me at a link if its too long11:29
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funkyHatzosologist, just make sure that the packages ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are installed11:29
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intelikeyalbinoloverats show us (just) the cd line of your fstab file11:29
PupenoMabus06: yes, that would say the keyboard is properly configured and mapped... then it is something Gnome specific, that's out of my scope, sorry.11:29
zosologistfunkyHat: how do i switch between?11:29
funkyHatzosologist, you can choose whether to run gnome or kde at the login screen, by clicking session11:29
zosologistfunkyHat sweet thanks11:30
QQ_ghostalbinoloverats: hmm,  could you paste that whole line?11:30
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albinoloveratshere it is: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom iso9660,udf auto,user,rw 0 011:30
zosologistfunkyHat: how hard is it to run kde bins on gnome and vice versa11:30
doogluszosologist: "not at all"11:30
intelikeyalbinoloverats also try 'eject /dev/hdc '   and see if it spits the cd at you or not11:30
albinoloveratsintelikey: yes it does11:31
funkyHatzosologist, there is no hard about it11:31
intelikeyalbinoloverats is that a burner ?11:31
funkyHatzosologist, they just run11:31
QQ_ghostalbinoloverats: for starters, it should be "ro" instead of "rw"11:31
zosologistdooglus: so i shouldnt run into any conflictions if i boot up a kde program while accidentaly in gnome11:31
albinoloveratsintelikey: yep, cdrw/dvdrom11:31
doogluszosologist: the only problem is that GNOME apps and KDE apps use 2 completely different sets of libraries, so if you mix and match them you'll be using a lot more memory than if you stick to just one or the other11:31
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intelikeyQQ_ghost that's why i asked about the burner11:32
zosologistdooglus: ahhhhhh i knew there was a catch11:32
doogluszosologist: no, people do it all the time.  amarok is a nice KDE music player that people use habitually in GNOME for instance11:32
albinoloveratssorry, i should have used cdrw instead11:32
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QQ_ghostintelikey: i have a burner too, and it's still "ro"11:32
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intelikeyonly other thing i know to try albinoloverats is maybe add defaults, before auto.11:33
zosologistdooglus: i essentually use double membory if i run both ehh?11:33
dooglusI've stopped using KDE and GNOME these last few days.  Haven't missed either of them yet (other than the CPU/network/swap meter thingy)11:33
doogluszosologist: not double, but more, yes.11:33
doogluszosologist: just try it.  if your system copes well, there's no problem11:33
intelikeyQQ_ghost yes but i got a lesson on that the other day, some new drives can mount cdrw rw11:33
n37anyone knows hwere to download lamp? Oo11:33
QQ_ghostintelikey: hell, i still can't get the machine to blank a cdrw...11:33
n37need help :/11:34
zosologistdooglus: well i got 1gig of ram and 1gb of swapfile space i suspect ill be good11:34
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doogluszosologist: so long as you have a reasonable swap partition then all you'll notice is that there's a lot of disk activity going on when you switch between apps.11:34
funkyHatdooglus, xfce?11:34
QQ_ghostn37: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP11:34
doogluszosologist: that's plenty.  I was mixing and matching the two with 350Mb or so of RAM11:34
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zosologistdooglus: cool11:34
dooglusfunkyHat: yes, at the moment.  I also tried ratpoison and ion[23] 11:34
niffeOk, can someone connect to my laptop with realvnc, and fix my wlan connection? :)11:34
n37thx :>11:35
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funkyHatdooglus, I tried ratpoison, for about 2 minutes.11:35
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QQ_ghostintelikey: like the dvd-combo drives?11:35
albinoloveratswhen i try and mount it says "dmesg | tail", doing so it tells me "UDF-fs: No VRS found"11:35
intelikeyif i had half a gig of ram i'd never use swap11:35
dooglusfunkyHat: I really like GNU Screen.  ratpoison is like "screen for X Windows" - so it's a nice idea, but...11:35
k31thhttp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl anyone having problems with this mirror ?11:35
k31thim trying to install freenx11:35
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funkyHatdooglus, because someone told me it was like screen for X, so I installed it to check it out, discovered it had all the parts of screen I didn't need, and none of the parts I did11:35
intelikeyQQ_ghost yeah, i don't remember the specs. but some of them can handel mounting cds like hds with full rw access11:36
dooglusfunkyHat: ratpoison would suit me well if only it had a panel at the top with the time on it - and maybe a few graphs11:36
zosologistbrb11:36
dooglusfunkyHat: what parts of screen didn't it have?11:36
dooglusfunkyHat: you mean like being able to detact and reattach?11:36
funkyHatdooglus, exactly that11:36
QQ_ghostintelikey: holy schnikies, i'm goin' googlin'...11:37
funkyHatit would be lovely to be able to detach apps from X before restarting it11:37
Mabus06How do you change what program your keyboard shortcuts work for (the media ones, specifically)11:37
PupenoDoes anybody remember the name of the channel about audio on Linux ?11:37
dooglusfunkyHat: ion2 is a lot like ratpoison, but with tabs too11:37
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funkyHatdooglus, but still no detactch/reattach :P11:38
Mr_Milenko[05:44]  <Fn~dooglus> funkyHat: ratpoison would suit me well if only it had a panel at the top with the time on it - and maybe a few graphs11:38
n37cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/11:38
dooglusfunkyHat: maybe you would like to detach them before rebooting Linux as well?11:38
Mr_MilenkoO_o11:38
n37cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/ any help?11:38
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Mr_Milenkowhats ... ratposion..11:38
Fujoordoes anyhere here know any console email client like pine, that could handle gmail?11:38
Mr_Milenkolol11:38
albinoloveratsit seems to be the cd, another cd works just fine11:38
dooglusMr_Milenko: it's a window manager.11:38
funkyHatdooglus, lol, in fact that's what I'm working on (using a separate machine + xmove)11:38
dooglusMr_Milenko: it's operated by the keyboard - you don't need the mouse - hence the name, I guess11:38
Mr_Milenkoreally11:38
Mr_Milenkodoes it look nice?11:39
intelikeyMabus06 i'm not sure what media keys are; i look down at these 101 keys and say "welp he's not talken' to me"  ;/11:39
funkyHatdooglus, I'm not getting anywhere at the moment though11:39
xukunisnt there realy free linux router simulation software ou there?11:39
n37cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/ any help? :<<11:39
Mr_Milenkohah thats funny... ratpoison.. xfce has a rat on it11:39
dooglusMr_Milenko: it looks - invisible.  every window is full-screened - there's no icons, frames, nothing.11:39
Mr_Milenkolol11:39
intelikeyFujoor mut   Mail11:39
Mabus06intelikey, in the keyboard shortcuts menu there is a media subsection11:39
Mr_Milenkomaybe the devs has a grudge against xfce :P11:39
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dooglusMr_Milenko: I think it pre-dates xfce, but I'm not sure.11:39
n37cannot install php4 via sudo apt-get install php4 :/ any help? :<<11:40
Mabus06intelikey, the keys seem to work, but my guess is they're not sending that signal to the program I want (rhythmbox)11:40
n37://11:40
funkyHatIn that case maybe the devs of xfce are masochists11:40
intelikeyMabus06 on ubuntu of course................11:40
dooglusMr_Milenko: apparently ratpoison was invented by some stoned programmers who found that having to reach for the mouse was too distracting11:40
funkyHathahaha11:40
Mabus06intelikey, yes, on ubuntu..11:40
Mr_Milenkolol11:41
dooglusMr_Milenko: read all about it, it's quite funny: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/inspiration.html11:41
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Mr_Milenkomore like a GUI for the console gurus at heart11:41
n37need some <3 help11:41
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Mr_Milenkoyou need love help?11:41
Mr_Milenkodude.. go to offtopic..11:41
n37#care11:41
Mr_Milenkolol11:41
n37ur not 1337 so.. then stfu11:42
intelikey!info php411:42
n37:>11:42
ubotuphp4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB11:42
Mr_Milenkoexcuse me?11:42
n37nope thx11:42
n37inteli u know how to install it?11:42
Mr_Milenkoi didnt say anything bad about you.. and you tell me to stfu?11:42
n37im getting an error msg11:42
Mr_Milenkofuck you11:42
intelikeyn37 what error you get ?11:42
n37kthxb11:42
n37:P11:42
Mabus06relax, Mr_Milenko and n3711:43
n37w811:43
n37cannot find packet11:43
intelikeyboys be heave!11:43
n37ive got in spanish11:43
n37:/11:43
intelikey!repos11:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource11:43
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Mr_Milenkothats messed up.. i didnt say anything bad to him and he starts talkin crap..11:43
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intelikeyit's in universe n37 setup your repos11:43
n37how :/ im new to lnx11:44
funkyHatdooglus, I think the reason he had concentration blocks wasn't that he was mashed... it's because he's an emacs user11:44
intelikeythe link above ^11:44
Mr_Milenkosudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:44
n37rofl :>11:44
Mr_Milenkouncomment universe repositories11:44
n37thx i'll try ^11:44
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intelikeyn37 there is also  #ubuntu-es if you need spanish11:45
n37rofl11:45
n37i think it will be best :D11:46
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n37thx anywayz 4 help <3:>11:46
intelikey k11:46
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zosologisthmmm does synaptic in kubuntu automaticly add programs to the applications list11:46
zool2005does anyone use skype and do you find it loads extremely slowly?11:47
Fujooris there any command equalent to ipconfig in windows? just so you can see your own ip number?11:47
funkyHatzool2005, yes, yes11:47
zool2005funkyHat : have you found a solution to make it load faster?11:47
syklitenguttanyone who can help me with finding and installing Gtk2::Ex::FormFactory11:47
zosologistFujoor: ifconfig i believe, dont quote me on that tho11:47
intelikeyifconfig11:47
funkyHatzool2005, well, more that it connects and logs in slowly, it seems to load quickly enough11:47
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Fujoorzoso: thanks ill try it, i only new iwconfig )11:48
Frafrahi all11:48
pixelfairythere a good repository for newer alsa?11:48
RaskallI must be missing something. I have an nvidia graphics card. When I install nvidia's drivers it works correctly. But when I boot X wont start and I have to go through the nvidia install routine to get things working again.11:48
Frafrahow can i change the root directory of apache from /var/www to another one?11:48
soundrayifconfig apparently is deprecated. Use 'ip link'11:48
zool2005funkyHat : it doesn't take too long to connect but takes 30s to appear on a 2.4G system11:48
Fujoorsoundray: iplink?11:48
zosologisthmmm does synaptic in kubuntu automaticly add programs to the applications list11:49
soundrayFujoor, no 'ip link'11:49
funkyHatzool2005, acutally yeah you're right, it does take a long time to appear, I had forgotten :P11:49
intelikeyalsa installs by default pixelfairy, what are you trying to do ?11:49
funkyHathmm11:49
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Fujoorsoundray: neither of them told me what my ip number is11:49
zool2005funkyHat :  do yo have to restart skype after each call?11:50
funkyHatzool2005, no11:50
QQ_ghostFujoor: look in the second lin down in the output11:50
zosologistifconfig tells me mine11:50
funkyHatzool2005, I've heard a lot of complaints about that though. I think the reason that I don't is that I use a separate soundcard for Skype/Gizmo11:50
intelikeyifconfig telle me mine tooo11:50
zool2005funkyHat, ah11:50
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QQ_ghostzosologist: mine is 127.0.0.111:51
funkyHatzool2005, and I've configured esd to leave that card alone (would be nice if I could just scrap esd all together)11:51
zosologistQQ_ghost uhh thanks ill write that down?11:51
intelikeyhehhe no the inet one11:51
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soundrayFujoor, try 'ip address'11:51
QQ_ghostzosologist: lol11:51
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intelikeylol11:51
funkyHatlol11:51
syklitenguttanyone who can help me getting Gtk2::Ex::FormFactory... Need it to install dvdrip11:51
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zool2005funkyHat : what card have you have?11:51
zosologistdoes synaptic in kubuntu automaticly add programs to the applications list11:51
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deFryskzosologist, the .debs do that11:52
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zosologistdeFrysk: greek to me, im a linux noob11:52
funkyHatzool2005, NVidia Nforce 2, and SB Audigy LS. The audigy is the one I use for SIP/Skype11:52
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deFryskzosologist, the .debs or packages are set up to be added to the menus or not11:53
intelikeyzosologist that is not a function  of the installer.  and yes apps added via apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/kde's package manager should always be added to the menu in kde if they are gui exec11:53
zosologistthank you both11:53
zool2005funkyHat : cheers11:53
namastehi, i'm looking for font "lucida sans" - where could i find it?11:54
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zosologistone more question, i wont have any problems running i386 ubuntu on an amd64 right?11:54
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soundrayzosologist, no.11:54
intelikeyshould not.11:54
soundrayzosologist, in fact, you'll have more problems if you run amd64 ubuntu on amd64 (like me) :)11:54
QQ_ghosti'm NOT impressed by "ip link", ifconfig should stay as "the cool thing"11:54
intelikeyi don't have a k7 so i cant say for sure on that11:55
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syklitenguttnamaste, google it download it and install it by system userchoise types11:55
NgQQ_ghost: look at the ip man page - it does an awful lot more than ifconfig :)11:55
soundrayQQ_ghost, I don't know where this deprecation comes from anyway.11:55
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zosologistsoundray: lol thats what im doing and im fed up with trying to get flash to work11:55
syklitenguttanyone who can help me getting Gtk2::Ex::FormFactory... Need it to install dvdrip11:55
zosologistsoundray: so i make the switch11:55
intelikeysoundray the developer/s11:56
Ngzosologist: the i386 version will run perfectly11:56
soundrayQQ_ghost, apparently ip works on more platforms.11:56
zosologistNg: good to know11:56
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virdoes anyone know where i could find the commands for a tape drive i can only remember a mt commands and i need to copy off my backups ?11:56
QQ_ghostsoundray: but ifconfig doesn't?11:56
n37blah #ubuntu-es sux11:56
n37:S11:56
soundrayzosologist, if you like the speed of amd64, you can set up a chroot environment for the few programs that need 32 bit.11:57
QQ_ghostzosologist: 32bit, like wine...11:57
soundrayQQ_ghost, let me just go back to where I got this from...11:58
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intelikeyit's basicly if the developer/s don't want to work on it anymore then it is deprecated.  nothing anyone else can do about it.   could always take over the project when they drop it i guess....11:58
zosologistsoundray: i thought about that, how hard is that, and is there any trouble with running 2 different versions of mozilla firefox?11:58
zosologistQQ_ghost: thats the other half of the reason im switching no wine11:58
zosologistsoundray: and really how much slower is the i386 version, never had a side by side comparison11:59
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intelikeymtr ?12:00
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QQ_ghostzosologist: i myself am still trying to get a friend to make the comparison for me... but he's sqirrel bait...12:01
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zosologistQQ_ghost: lol12:01
QQ_ghostzosologist: he hasn't even tried the live cd...12:01
soundrayQQ_ghost, sorry, I can't back it up right now.12:01
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mcphailzosologist: 64 bit ubuntu is for people who miss the "good ol' days" when everything didn't "just work". I'm one of those people.12:02
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soundrayQQ_ghost, I mean what I said about ip working on more platforms.12:02
QQ_ghostsoundray: it's ok, i'm looking at the man page...12:02
QQ_ghosti had a prog on windows that would tell me the city of an ip addy, is there one for linux?12:03
soundraymcphail, zosologist: 64bit is great for number crunching. I have a program that runs six times faster on a 2GHz Athlon64 than on a 3GHz Xeon.12:03
intelikeywhois12:03
intelikeyQQ_ghost whois12:04
mcphailsoundray: i'm hoping to get cinelerra to compile on 64 bit one day to give it a shot12:04
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funkyHatmcphail, enough things break in ubuntu i386 *cough*SOUND*cough*12:04
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Ngget a decent soundcard ;)12:04
QQ_ghostintelikey: like, "whois 220.247.228.54"?12:04
intelikeyyep12:04
funkyHatNg, I have 2 decent soundcards, which esd still manages to lock up whenever it's running12:05
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QQ_ghostintelikey: k00l12:05
mcphailfunkyHat: everything which breaks in i386 also breaks in amd64 !12:05
funkyHatmcphail, yay!12:05
funkyHat:P12:05
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intelikeybwwhois also QQ_ghost    i think it's bw12:05
QQ_ghostmcphail: consistancy counts!12:05
NgfunkyHat: I have one soundblaster live and it has always worked fine and does hardware mixing, so no esd is required (that is what makes it decent)12:05
zosologistsoundray: dont do too much number crunching over here the odd bit of video conversion every now and again but thats about it12:05
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funkyHatNg, I have alsa doing mixing... I haven't managed to disable esd completely though!12:06
soundraymcphail, do you use cinelerra on 32?12:06
mcphailsoundray: i tried it about 6 months ago12:06
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funkyHatNg, I have hardware mixing on one of my cards as well, anyway, but still the problem with esd. I just want it to DIE12:06
funkyHatAnd stop haunting me :(12:07
mcphailsoundray: my system specs weren't very good then12:07
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soundraymcphail, do you do video editing at the moment?12:07
NgfunkyHat: System->Preferences->Sound, untick the sound server startup and esd won't get started when you log in anymore12:07
funkyHatNg, I want gnome sounds to work12:07
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mcphailsoundray: cat mpg.1 mpg.2 > mpg.3 !12:07
soundrayzosologist, I have some tasks that take 24 hours on a Xeon -- the difference makes a difference there...12:08
NgfunkyHat: I really can't stand applications making noise when I click on them, so I would have disabled that anyway. Nevermind, it'll be sorted in dapper probaby12:08
soundraymcphail, :)  Does that work?12:08
mcphailsoundray: yes12:08
soundraymcphail, I know it does with vdr's avis.12:08
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zosologistsoundray: lol well i should be fine then12:08
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funkyHatNg, I have most of the sounds disabled, but there are some that I really want to be there :P12:08
zosologistwhats the best way to burn an iso in linux, last question before reinstall12:09
mcphailsoundray: wmv doesn't work, but i can't watch them on amd64 anyway ;p12:09
Ngzosologist: you can right click on it in nautilus and burn it with that12:10
zosologistNg: thanks12:10
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intelikeyzosologist some would say k3b   others may tell you xcdroast  while still others may say cdrecord (cli)12:11
zosologist write to disc i would assume?12:11
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tRSSHey guys...quick question: I am trying to set up my Plantronics USB headset to work with xmms in breezy, but xmms won't play the music through my USB headset12:11
Ngzosologist: yes12:11
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mcphailkestas: i use vmware. media player runs quite slowly on qemu12:11
kestasmcphail, but vmware only virtualises doesnt it? can you use ia32 in vmware on amd64?12:12
zosologistNg: ok I suspected that would be the way to do it, just didnt want a cd with only a .iso image on it12:12
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Ngkestas: an amd64 chip still has the ia32 instructions, and you can run 32bit code even if the kernel is 64bit12:12
mcphailkestas: the latest version builds 64 bit kernel modules. It is excellent. You can have 32 or 64 bit guests12:12
soundrayzosologist, you'd have trouble booting that :)12:13
Ngkestas: you could just install mplayer in a 32bit chroot12:13
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QQ_ghostzosologist: that's why god made cd-rw's...12:13
zosologistsoundray QQ_ghost: indeed and im down to 2 blank cds12:13
kestasNg, hmm I see, I thought it was like XD you could enable ia32 at boot time only12:13
QQ_ghostzosologist: (for testing writes)12:13
Ngkestas: nope :)12:13
zosologistQQ_ghost im to cheep i go for the good ole 100 pack of cd-r's12:13
QQ_ghostzosologist: whitch is a 75-pack of coasters?12:14
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ejofeewhere do i find the repos for dapper?12:14
zosologistQQ_ghost: tu che12:14
zosologistor however you spell it12:14
QQ_ghostzosologist: got over 300 of them myself...12:14
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apokryphosejofee: I'm sure if you looked at your sources.list you'd be able to figure it out ;-)12:15
zosologistwell ill be back shortly, bout to install i38612:15
Ngejofee: don't run dapper ;)12:15
soundrayejofee, if you have to ask how to use dapper...12:15
Ngyeah12:15
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QQ_ghostzosologist: did you back up your home directory?12:16
QQ_ghostsh*t, too late...12:16
soundrayQQ_ghost, lets hope he has...12:16
soundray*let's12:16
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QQ_ghostsoundray: made that mistake 'bout three weeks ago...12:16
flameswhich repository need for this? (breezy) sudo apt-get install libdvdcss212:16
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apokryphos!tell flames about dvd12:17
tRSShow can I make xmms to play music through my USB headset. other sounds are coming through the USB headset, but no music from xmms?!12:17
ejofee:)12:17
ejofeethanks folks12:17
flamesthx12:18
tRSS:( no help!?12:19
ctrtRSS, I suspect you need to change the output channel in the oss or whatever plugin12:20
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tRSSctr: I did that, but it still doesn't work. I am not sure, what I am missing12:21
ctrNo idea then, sorry :(12:21
quackerI'12:21
quackerI12:21
Sgtg'day everyone!   Please help me setting up my swap partition.  I am not how sure to label it.12:21
quackerI've jsut lost kpanel; how do I get it back, odes it have an executeable I can run?12:22
SeveasSgt, no label :)12:22
tRSSctr: thanks for trying though :)12:22
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apokryphosSgt: no mount point, just sw as an option and the type is of course "swap"12:22
Sgtcool in my partition definition area.  I defined two as primary12:23
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SeveasThis is my swap:12:23
Seveas/dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       012:23
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apokryphosSgt: we're talking about the entry in /etc/fstab12:23
Ngctr: boo :)12:23
mcphailSeveas: Sgt: 0x82 (or is it 83?)12:24
SgtI see. sw is a swap option12:24
Seveas8212:24
intelikey/.swap none swap sw 0 012:24
Seveas83 is "Linux"12:24
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kestas83 is swap12:24
kestasoh12:24
Sgtnot sure 82 or 8312:24
Seveas82 is swap12:24
intelikey8212:25
ctrNg, I can't go anywhere with out you sitting there watching can I ?12:25
Seveasat least, that's what cfdisk tells me :)12:25
ctrNg, got any exeprience with pgsql ?12:25
SgtI am just beginning again.12:25
kestascfdisk lies12:25
Ngctr: it either means I'm omnipresent, or have good taste ;)12:25
Ngctr: 'fraid not12:25
ctrbugger12:25
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Sgtlet me look at the install program again. its on my other computer.12:26
ctrNg, thought I'd run the gauntlet and install dapper on my ibook12:27
ctrwell,upgrade to it12:27
Ngctr: madness ;)12:27
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ctr959 or so packages to be upgraded12:27
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alexissofthi12:27
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Ngctr: expect some breakage12:28
ctrNg, yip :)12:28
SgtI found it.  Thanks everyone.!!!12:28
oli_vertif i've got to install ubuntu on 10 or so boxes, whats the easiest way of doing identical installs?12:28
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mcphailoli_vert: identical boxes?12:29
oli_vertmcphail, yeah12:29
mcphailoli_vert: dd12:29
oli_vertmcphail, i've heard thats painfully slow though?12:29
intelikeyhmm what is the keyboard device ?12:30
intelikeyanyone know ?12:30
mcphailoli_vert: about 30 mins for decent size hd12:30
oli_vertdoes that do partitioning etc? or do i have to manually partition the machines?12:31
mcphailoli_vert: the problem is you also transfer "empty" disk space which wastes time, but is still fater than most networks12:31
kimoAny suggestions for getting Nautilus to burn CDs? It just keeps on prompting me to insert a blank CD, despite there already being one in there.12:31
mcphailoli_vert: the partition tables will be copied exactly12:31
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Sgt@Seveas Thanks Mate.12:32
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kimosudo cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 works fine, but isn't as user friendly.12:32
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intelikeyoli_vert it depends on if you dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1  or dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb12:33
mcphailoli_vert: yes, you must copy the whole drive12:34
oli_verti see12:34
oli_vertthanks12:34
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intelikeyyou could set up a single partition copy that would save a lot of time ^(fi8rst example)  but would require partitioning12:35
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intelikeyand a boot loader install of course ^12:36
m8hi, I've installed multimedia codecs but still I get this type of error in Totem: 'Could not open resource for writing.' anyone can point me what am I doing wrong?12:36
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intelikeykimo make a link if it is not there.   sudo ln -s /dev/hd? /dev/cdrom   <-- assuming ide  and not knowing the cable/jumper setting12:39
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intelikeywhere hd?  is maybe hdc   or something    a b c d12:40
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pa_lhi i have problems with apt-get. some dependency error always occur no matter what i try to install postfix12:41
pa_l mailx12:41
pa_l mutt12:41
pa_l lsb-core12:41
pa_l lsb-graphics12:41
pa_l lsb-cxx12:41
pa_l lsb12:41
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pa_li tryed to apt-get install one by one but couldnt succeed12:42
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intelikeyi think there is a switch that might streighten that out   apt-get -fix<something>    you'll have to look it up.    man apt-get12:43
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pa_lcan someone please explain what this means W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fBreezy%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:44
pa_lW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fBreezy%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:44
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Astxistpa_l, don't paste here12:45
pa_lsorry Astxist12:45
aeon17x!w32codecs12:45
ubotuw32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:45
Astxistpa_l, and fix it with sudo apt-get update12:45
xiaogilHow to record on the hard drive the sound : rtsp://son.radio-france.fr/chaines/france-inter/chroniques/rey/rey_211205.ra12:45
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pa_lAstxist i have already tried that12:45
Astxistpa_l, heh np just letting you know before more scary ppl tell you ^_^12:45
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Astxisthmm12:46
intelikeypa_l i'd say your sources list is hosed   there is no breezy hedghog   and breezy is 5.1012:46
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Sgtcheers, thanks again!!12:46
intelikey5.04 is hoary hedghog pa_l12:46
pa_lyes somone told me to change out sources.list all occurence of hoary with breezy12:47
sayanHi All !!12:47
sayanGreeting to all12:47
lampshadehi sayan12:47
intelikey!repos12:47
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource12:47
sayanyes lampshade12:47
sayanI am new in this irc12:48
pa_lintelikey i need source.list for breezy where can i get one?12:48
Astxistpa_l, if you're using breezy I can send you my orginal sources.list file12:48
intelikeypa_l  go there ^  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325  and make a new /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
pa_lyes Astxist iam using breezy12:48
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intelikeyAstxist did ya send him one ?12:50
pa_lsorry i closed wrong window could you please give me the url again12:50
kimointelikey /dev/cdrom used to point to hdc (cd reader). I've changed it to point to hdd (cd writer) but it is still compaining: "Insert a rewritabel or blank disc ..."12:50
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pa_lAstxist could you please send again12:51
Astxistintelikey, he quit :/12:51
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Astxistoh I'll send it pa_l12:51
pa_lthanks (:12:51
Astxistjust need to change the au bits to your region12:51
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Blues-Manhi all12:51
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Gardahow many, mabey as a percentage, do unbuntu packages change between releases12:51
intelikeykimo idk are you sure the disk in the drive is blank and not a frisby ?12:51
Blues-Manis there in Gnome something like Kppp for Kde? I mean something that looks almost the same12:52
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graabeinhow do i find out what wireless driver i am using? madwifi, ndiswrapper...12:52
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b91048hi everyone12:53
intelikeywell sort of Blues-Man gnome-connect or something like that12:53
graabeinyo!12:53
Astxistpa_l, all done :)12:53
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pa_lok Astxist i should change it to sources.list right?12:53
Blues-Manand something like kdebluetooth?12:53
intelikeypa_l /etc/apt/sources.list12:54
DragoraNhi, iam running 64bit Ubuntu on my Amilo A7645 notebook, i have problems with my PCMCIA slot, its nor recognized, can someone help me?12:54
Astxistpa_l, yes and edit it to change the au parts to your country12:54
pa_lok12:54
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Astxistand save a backup this time :)12:54
intelikeythe backup is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232512:55
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kimointelikey I've tried several disks, and it keeps on prompting me to insert a blank. cdrecord -dummy will write to it fine.12:57
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Blues-Manintelikey, I can't find gnome-connect in apt-cache12:57
DragoraNsome someone help?12:58
intelikeyidk kimo with nothing more to go on and the limited knowledge i have.... sorry.12:58
AstxistDragoraN, just ask and we'll answer if we can12:58
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DragoraNAstxist: i asked :( i mad of that, if dont know, just tell dont know and dont leave me waiting12:59
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AstxistDragoraN, sorry I must've missed it12:59
zosologistwoo i made it back12:59
DragoraNAstxist: np12:59
AstxistDragoraN, I read it unfortunatly I have no idea on how to help01:00
DragoraNok01:00
mjr3501:00
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kimointelikey Thanks for your suggestion anway.01:00
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ChrisBradleyAnyone know how to make gnome fill in the Applications menu?01:01
intelikeyBlues-Man i thought it was called gnome-connect  or maybe g-connect  it's been a while sense if seen it or even used gnome.  but there is a dialer like kppp  maybe it was gnome-dial   na that dont sound right.01:01
salomonhi01:01
ChrisBradleyusing 5.04 ubuntu01:01
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salomoni've installed a new 3com network crad01:02
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salomonhow can i configure it now ?01:02
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salomoni'm not using any01:02
FaithXHey what's the deal with ubuntu being such a resource pig when running mplayer??? is it xorg that it guilty... I was runnig sarge before and I could watch things fine... now they are all jerky01:02
__filip_What should i add in /boot/grub/menu.lst if i whant windows xp ?01:02
ktogiassalomon, The network card is PCI ?01:03
salomonyes01:03
Astxistsalomon, system -> Admin -> Network Settings should get you somewhere :)01:03
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salomoni dont use gnome01:03
salomoni dont use any graphical system01:03
salomonits a server01:03
Astxistsorry Networking01:03
FaithXwassup salomon ?01:03
Astxistsalomon, oh I have no idea how to do if from the cmdline sorry01:03
FaithXI missed it01:03
salomonmh01:04
john_whomy epson usb printer is not detected automagically by ubuntu. i'm stuck, what can i do?01:04
intelikeysalomon is that wireless ?01:04
salomonno01:04
salomonnormal ethernet lan card01:04
FaithXjohn_who: look at syslog and see what it tells you01:04
zosologistwhats the best sound system to use01:04
zosologistalsa?01:04
intelikeysee if a module is installed for it salomon   lsmod | grep 3com01:04
mcphailsalomon: edit /etc/network/interfaces01:05
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salomoni'll try01:05
salomonbrb01:05
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john_whoFaithX, from syslog it looks like printer is recognized, usblp is loaded ecc01:06
mcphailsalomon: man interfaces01:06
FaithXjohn_who: so you need to configure cups or whatever you are using01:06
john_whostill no detection from the "add a printer" thing01:06
FaithX?01:06
FaithXIt doesn't "detect" as such01:06
zosologistanyone please suggest a sound system to me? esd occ alsa???01:06
FaithXalsa01:07
zosologistk01:07
ejofeezosologist: alsa01:07
FaithXesd is not a sound system01:07
ejofeezosologist: by all means.01:07
zosologistnow.... to make it work01:07
intelikeysalomon on a server mouse copy and paste is made easy with gpm01:07
ejofeezosologist: install it.01:07
intelikeyalsa = advanced linux sound arch.01:07
Blues-Manintelikey, got it : gnome-ppp tnx :)01:07
salomonmh01:08
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FaithXjohn_who: when you add printer chose the usb port for the connection] 01:08
zosologistejofee:says they are installed in synaptic anyway01:08
intelikeyhehhe that's to simple Blues-Man lol no wonder i couldn't remember it.01:08
salomonhow i can i reload my network configartion now ?01:08
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john_whoFaithX, i see. lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer01:08
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FaithXzosologist: what sound card do you have01:09
Blues-Man:)01:09
mcphailsalomon: ifup <interfacename>01:09
salomonthx01:09
davehi01:09
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Kim_Good morning, class. Can one safely assume that xserver-xorg-core in dapper is practically 7.0(-rc<something>)?01:09
intelikeysudo /etc/init/net restart01:09
lowmang'mornin this mornin ;)01:09
john_whoFaithX, so which is the right port? #1 #2 ...?01:09
intelikeyoops init.d01:09
salomonthanx01:09
salomonit works01:09
FaithX#1 I guess... if not #2 :)01:09
zosologistFaithX: soundblaster audigy ls01:09
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FaithXzosologist: ah01:10
FaithXzosologist: depends on which model I think01:10
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zosologistFaithX: wait its just the imput thats not working01:10
zosologistFaithX: the output works01:11
intelikeyso does anyone know what /dev/* is  at keyboard ?01:11
davedoes sombody know why gtkgnutella says that I`am behind a firewall?01:11
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intelikeydave iptables running maybe.01:12
FaithX zosologist have a look at alsamixer at the command line01:12
ktogiasdave, maybe beacause it is behind a firewall....01:12
zosologistanyone know why testing the imput on my alsa would crash the system chooser01:12
daveis this normal after fresh installation?01:12
daveok have a look01:13
FaithXbecause the system chooser is probably using esd...01:13
FaithXI turn off esd often as not01:13
FaithXbut noone answers my questions :-|01:13
FaithXHey what's the deal with ubuntu being such a resource pig when running mplayer??? is it xorg that it guilty... I was runnig sarge before and I could watch things fine... now they are all jerky01:14
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mcphailFaithX: dma enabled?01:14
FaithX?01:14
intelikeymine either FaithX ....01:14
lowmanFaithX: enable dma01:14
intelikeyso does anyone know what /dev/* is an AT keyboard ?01:15
FaithXThat's news to me...01:15
lowmanhad that last week..oi vay! :P01:15
FaithXdma for what?01:15
FaithXhdd or???01:15
FaithXor for mplayer?01:15
mcphailFaithX: hdd01:15
lowmanFaithX: gimme a second I am finding it for you :)01:16
ktogiasI have never managed to work with the ubuntu mplayer packages... It wouldn't become fullscreen, it would be slow... I always download and compile the latest source from mplayerhq.hu ...01:16
bachstudiesquestion about ClamAV: why does ubuntu 5.10 say that I have version 0.87.1 installed but freshclam clearly shows I only have 0.87? I have tried completely uninstalling etc but I still have the same problem. Suggestions?01:16
mcphailFaithX: hdparm <device> should tell you if it is enabled01:16
mcphailbachstudies: i'd ignore it. 0.87 works fine anyway01:16
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Kim_Well, thanks for your help ;)01:17
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lowmanFaithX: you can turn DMA on in your /etc/hdparm.conf it is at the bottom commented out01:18
FaithX mcphail but mplayer has nought to do with my hdd... but just to amuse you I will look01:18
bachstudiesmcphail, so would you say it is an ubuntu problem rather than a clamAV one?01:18
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lowmanI thought the samething you did FaithX but when I enabled it all was well...go figgy *shrugs*01:19
intelikeyE: /dev/sd not supported by hdparm01:19
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mcphailFaithX: your hdd or your dvd drive01:19
EvilGuruis there an official breezy backports project yet?01:19
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FaithXI don't use hdd or dvd for mplayer... network only01:20
mcphailFaithX: then dma won't help!01:20
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FaithXanyhow.... without adjusting hdparm.conf dma is on01:21
lowmanFaithX: well that is diffy..dunno! *shrugs*01:21
mcphailbachstudies: i don't think it's a problem at all01:21
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EvilGurubreezy backports anyone?01:22
FaithXbachstudies: why is that a problem01:22
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bachstudiesmcphail, it just looks to me like the deb package has been wrongly labelled 0.87.101:22
mcphailFaithX: aren't there different builds with different compiler switches? Pick one with full mmx support?01:23
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FaithXmcphail: will look01:23
bachstudiesFaithX, it is a problem because clamAV keeps telling me my software is out of date!01:24
FaithXbut I am sure that I chose mplayer-586 which I thought would have had the right goods.... I was more thinking that it was an xorg thing.01:24
mcphailbachstudies: ok. point taken.01:24
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lowmanbachstudies: mine too :p~~~01:25
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mcphailFaithX: does "top" suggest that xorg is hogging cpu cycles?01:25
FaithXbachstudies: but that may have nothing to do with the packages as much with the fact that freshclam is told the latest version from the clam server... not deb packages01:26
mcphailbachstudies: honestly, i'd ignore the warnings regarding a minor version number. It still updates definitions ok01:26
lowmanreally mcphail?01:26
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lowmancoolies i thought it was broken or something01:27
mcphaillowman: working fine here01:27
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mcphaillowman: picking up the same nasties as avg in windows01:28
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lowmanmcphail: great :p~~~01:28
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bachstudiesmcphail, I completely agree. I'm just trying to get my Ubuntu desktop as perfect as possible.01:30
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_fredforfaen!java01:34
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:34
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wouaren!flash01:35
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ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats01:35
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wouaren!freeflash01:35
ubotuwouaren: I don't know, could you explain it?01:35
TaliskerHi01:36
TaliskerI'm trying to use autoreconf, and I get this error message:01:36
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TaliskerCan't exec "aclocal": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 176.01:36
TaliskerUse of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 176.01:36
TaliskerCan't exec "automake": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 177.01:36
TaliskerUse of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/autoreconf line 177.01:36
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zosologisthow do i change the default program a file opens with01:36
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zosologistanyone?01:38
zosologistdead in here?01:38
bDerrlywhat file type are you trying to associate with what program?01:38
zosologist.ogg01:38
zosologistwith uh hold on01:38
claeszosologist, in gnome right click the file and choose properties then check the "open with" tab.01:39
__filip_What should i add in /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot Windows XP, i have Windows XP installed on my hda101:39
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mikihi, where I can get ncurses-devel?01:39
zosologistBderrly: .ogg with amarok01:40
mikiI can't find it through apt-cache search01:40
bDerrlymiki, apt-get install libncurses5-dev01:40
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bDerrlyzosologist, look at what claes wrote above01:40
bDerrlyor are you in kde?01:40
mikibDerrly: where aren't such ;/01:41
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bDerrlyi just saw it with apt-cache01:41
zosologistclaes: thanks01:41
claeszosologist, Glad I could help.01:42
pa_lhow do i change the au for mye region in the sources.list?01:42
mikimiki@m1:/$ sudo apt-cache search ncurses01:42
mikievms-ncurses - Enterprise Volume Management System (ncurses UI)01:42
mikimtr-tiny - Full screen ncurses traceroute tool01:42
mikilibncurses5 - Shared libraries for terminal handling01:42
mikilibncursesw5 - Shared libraries for terminal handling (wide character support)01:42
mikincurses-base - Descriptions of common terminal types01:42
mikincurses-bin - Terminal-related programs and man pages01:42
mikincurses-term - Additional terminal type definitions01:42
mikiwhiptail - Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts01:42
mikiprocps - /proc file system utilities01:42
mikimaybe i'm blind01:42
bDerrlymiki, don't paste01:42
bDerrlydo you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list?01:43
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kostaorl10.0.0.101:44
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bDerrlykostaorl, is that supposed to mean something?01:45
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FaithXmcphail: xorg is hogging badly... basically takes all it can get about 75% cpu or more01:45
claesAnyone familliar with the lsb in ubuntu?01:46
mikibDerrly, ok, works, thx01:46
bDerrlymiki, np01:46
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FaithXanyone running drbd?01:48
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ugennanyone running xorg 7?01:49
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claesugenn, 6.99.99.904 (7.0.0 RC 4) in dapper01:49
Seveasugenn, everyone who runs dapper and dist-upgraded today01:49
Seveas(well, for some parts)01:50
ugennare the 7.0 libs binary comparible with existing xlib apps?01:50
ugenn*compatible01:50
bDerrlydapper has it already?  :)01:50
pa_lhow can i find out which ubuntu release i have?01:50
bDerrlyi've been holding back x lately because they were upgrading it almost everyday01:50
holy_cow*hmmm*01:50
bDerrlypa_l, ctrl+alt+f101:51
claespa_l, cat /etc/issue01:51
bDerrlyctrl+alt+f7 to get back01:51
holy_cowwhen one uses gparted to repartition a drive, is a boot sector automatically created?01:51
Kamping_Kaiserhi holy_cow01:51
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holy_cowhi Kamping_Kaiser01:52
holy_cowKamping_Kaiser, i'm about to try those file sharing instructions you forwarded way back :)01:52
holy_cowheh01:52
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DenstarkI love how fast Ubuntu updates. It makes me happy. <3 Binary Packages.01:52
pa_l Astxist i stil dont know how to change the au stuff? please explain01:53
Kamping_Kaiserlol holy_cow01:53
Kamping_Kaisergl. feel free to ask if you need to :)01:53
holy_cowi'm sure i will have a question or two01:53
ugennuh...how's xorg7's binary compatibility?01:53
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Denstarkftcl?01:54
claesugenn, With the version dapper have, I haven't noticed any trouble.01:54
Astxistau is the extension for my country austraila01:54
ugennclaes: do you have your existing xorg side by side with the new one?01:54
claesugenn, Running dapper since the day it opened it up.01:54
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claesugenn, Nope, I only use the version in dapper.01:55
Astxistpa_l, so if you where in the us01:55
ugennclaes: what's the major version for libX11 from xorg7?01:55
Astxistyou'd use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com01:55
Astxistinstead01:55
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ugennclaes: it's still libX11.so.6 i presume?01:56
pa_lAstxist iam in Norway01:56
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claeslibx11-6 1.0.0-0ubuntu2 is the version of the deb. I'll check01:56
bDerrlyi'm not seeing xorg7 in apt-cache01:56
pa_lAstxist by the way everything you sendt was comment out. so i uncommented the urls and didnt change anything else. still iam not able to do apt-get install opera01:57
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Astxistpa_l, no is the tld for Norway01:57
claesugenn, libX11.a libX11.so libX11.so.6 libX11.so.6.2.0 is what I have01:58
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Astxistpa_l, use sudo apt-get update01:58
Astxistpa_l, and then use apt-cache search opera01:58
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Astxistpa_l, if nothing comes up it's probably not in the repos01:58
NigelSpa_l: opera isn't in ubuntu01:58
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pa_lAstxist i have already installed opera. and i removed because there was some ld.so problems. but the main problem is dependency stuff, maybe because i interrupted apt-get update some days ago01:59
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Astxistpa_l, wouldn't know where to start with that :)02:00
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claespa_l, Check if opera still have a static version.02:00
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ugennis there a way to access repositories through a web browser?02:00
bDerrlytry dpkg-reconfigure --pending02:00
NigelSpa_l: you installed opera a few days ago *from* the ubuntu repositories?02:00
Kamping_Kaiserjust put the url into a web browser02:01
ubuntuSwitchergday everyone. how to start a console window? lol i cant find it anywhere. thanks!02:01
cbx33applications -> acessories -> terminal02:01
HymnToLifeugenn > http://packages.ubuntu.com02:01
ubuntuSwitchercbx33, ty02:01
Kamping_Kaiserstartx02:01
cbx33got a problem with unionfs02:01
pa_lNigelS yes i did so02:01
cbx33anyone else ever installed it on ubuntu02:01
pa_lno sorry NigelS i actually downloaded opera mysel02:02
pa_lmyself02:02
zosologisthow do i get to the change user screen02:02
pa_lbut i used apt-get remove opera02:02
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NigelSpa_l: I was going to say, it's non-free software and I don't think its license lets it be repackaged02:02
NigelSpa_l: I see, and you want to reinstall the same deb?02:02
ugennHymnToLife: thx02:03
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zosologisthow do i get to the switch user screen?02:03
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zosologistwithout restarting atleast02:03
FlannelKinglog out you mean?02:03
pa_lno i just want apt-get to work properly. i cant do any apt-get install02:03
bDerrlysystem -> logout02:03
FlannelKingor, do you want a second screen?02:03
zosologistthat always kicks me to console02:03
cbx33pa_l, what's up with it02:03
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FlannelKingit shouldnt.02:03
zosologisthmm ill try again02:04
NigelSpa_l: apt-get doesn't do what you think it does.  apt-get accesses the repositories02:04
bDerrlyyeah, that shouldn't take you to console02:04
FlannelKingdo you have a window manager running?02:04
NigelSpa_l: if you've added something manually to your local system it can remove it, but it won't know where to get it from if you ask for it to be installed02:04
NigelSpa_l: it only knows about the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list - you'll need to dpkg -i the deb if you want to install it02:04
MrRiowow, ubuntu is really good02:04
DenstarkI just installed ubuntu-calendar-december and was wondering where the image files that were downloaded went =o02:04
MrRioSynaptic and apt are ALOT better than fedora's yum + yumex02:05
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bDerrlyDenstark, dpkg -L ubuntu-calendar-december02:05
claesDenstark, dpkg -L ubuntu-calendar-december02:05
DenstarkThank you =)02:05
claesWops to slow.02:05
pa_lsure NigelS but i had some problems with the sources.list and i gott new for breezy from Astxist. but he mentioned to change the au. in the url i think, but i live in Norway and is there any url like   deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted02:06
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cbx33pa_l, ping it and find out :p02:07
claespa_l, Not sure if there are any no servers. Switch to se the Swedish ones are great! :-)02:07
agorfi click on the synapitc package manager but it wont load any ideas?02:07
agorfsynaptics*02:07
pa_lswedish end with se02:08
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ktogiasagorf, doesn't it ask you for your password?02:08
Astxistpa_l, heh sorry forgot to mention they might not have a server for no :/02:08
agorfktogias, err no02:09
pa_lAstxist  why is there deb before the http://.... url02:09
agorfktogias, i just listen to a sound and then nothing02:09
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agorfktogias, moreover, i never got the change to set a root password (not that it is relevant)02:09
pa_land deb-src http://....02:09
claespa_l, yes. use:  http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu02:09
ktogiasstrange...02:09
NigelSpa_l: run apt-setup to find a local mirror.  You'll probably want the universe and multiverse too, so just add those words on the same line02:10
Astxistpa_l, just change the ones with a tld leave the rest02:10
ktogiasagorf, in Ubuntu you don't have a root passwd... You get root privileges with sudo...02:10
ktogiasHave you set a password for root?02:11
agorfno02:11
ktogiasright02:11
agorfso i do everything by prepending sudo ?02:11
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claesNot to nag but is anyone familliar with the lsb functions in ubuntu?02:11
ktogiasagorf, yes02:11
agorfm, strange02:12
Astxistclaes, not I02:12
ktogiasor sudo -i if you want a root shell ....02:12
paganis there an irc client I can use in the CLI that is better than bitchx...this thing bites :P02:12
ktogiastry running sudo synaptic from a terminal...02:12
NigelSpagan: irssi02:12
Astxistpagan, you could try irssi02:12
agorfktogias, i will thanks :)02:13
paganirssi? okay thank you NigelS02:13
NigelSno probs. I like it anyway :)02:13
paganthank you Astxist02:13
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Astxistpagan, I can't vouch for it though, I like a GUI :)02:14
pagani cannot stand this bitchx..they named it right it is a $%^&*02:14
NigelSas they say, bitchx is 99% quit message :)02:14
Astxistheh02:14
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Seveasirssi is much better than B-X02:14
NigelSthere are quite a few broken things about it.02:14
pagani need a CLI client as I am ssh into my ubuntu box from school02:14
Seveasirssi+screen :)02:15
NigelSI'm using irssi now, it's all I use :)02:15
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Astxistpagan, heh02:15
paganI am gonna try that NigelS ..thank you :)02:15
AstxistI use XChat I played with it when I used windows and got into tcl so it makes things easier02:15
Seveaspagan, have a look at screen too :)02:15
Seveasewwww tcl02:16
Seveaslearn python :)02:16
NigelSyes without screen it's all farely pointless :)02:16
pa_ldo i need mysql-server if mysql-common is installed?02:16
Seveaspa_l, onl if you want the server02:16
Astxisttoo lazy ;p02:16
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AstxistI almost had to learn python the other day but I figured out how to hack up the script enough to get it to do what I wanted :)02:17
SeveasAstxist, any language in which you can write a palindrome checker in 1 line (+1 extra line for I/O handling) is worth learning :)02:17
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pagani know a little bit of python..not much tho :P02:17
AstxistSeveas, heh I'm not that far into it02:17
paganokay i am out on a limb and wide open for the stupid comments...what is a palindrome? *ducks* "QUACK"02:18
Astxistpagan, no idea02:19
Astxistpagan, sounds like a building02:19
NigelSpagan: it's a number/string that is the same backwards as it is forwards02:19
Seveasa word that is the same when you spell it backwards02:19
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paganoh! like 0101010 <--like that?02:19
Seveaslike mom or dad or lol :) (the 3-letter ones are the easiest)02:20
paganor like BOB <--LOL02:20
Seveas:)02:20
HymnToLifeor lol :p02:20
Astxistno not the bob02:20
NigelSpagan: e.g. bob or http://www.norvig.com/palindrome.html02:20
NigelS:)02:20
paganokay checkin it out...have to use lynx :P``` weeee02:21
Seveasor deified02:21
Seveasor kayak02:21
NigelSI think thats cheating though02:21
Seveasenglish only has small palindromes02:21
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NigelSif you're going to make a proper palindrome of more than 1 word it should be meaningful :)02:21
Seveasthe largest is deified02:21
claesor: Ah, Satan sees natasha02:22
Seveasclaes, :)02:22
paganclaes that was clever :)02:22
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Astxistah no worky02:23
paganbrb02:23
Astxist:)02:23
claesMy brother always naged me about palindromes when I grew up. But it's harder in english then in Swedish.02:23
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Astxistso why are palindromes important? or are they just one of those fun little tid bits?02:24
Seveasthe latter02:25
Astxistk02:25
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paganunless you are a witch and write spells...I was just reading about that just now ;)02:25
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ubuntuSwitcheri am gonna reboot now after tweaking services with sysv-rc-conf. hope i boot back....sigh02:25
NigelSI'm sure they're very important.... :)02:25
NigelSI looked forward to 2002 for just that reason02:25
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HymnToLifenow wait for 2112 :p02:26
thompsbmanybody on that is running pureftpd02:26
HymnToLifeRush rules02:26
AstxistI don't recall any witches doing that ;p02:26
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claesI prefer pi.  Not important at all. only training the brain.02:26
paganrush does rule02:26
Seveas!pi02:26
zmaster10502:26
Seveas!+pi02:26
ubotupi is, like, totally, 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234602:26
HymnToLifelol02:27
HymnToLifenice one :p02:27
NigelSHymnToLife: best egg on those anti-aging treatments the sci-fi writers promise us :)02:27
pagannice ubotu02:27
MrRioomfg i like totally love pi!1!1!02:27
HymnToLifepi is overrated02:27
Seveas!+e02:27
ubotuhmm... e is Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 Repo: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary or e17 on breezy: http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%2902:27
pagani like apple pi02:27
Astxiststupid infinate values02:27
pagan:P02:27
NigelSlol02:27
Astxist*infinit02:27
poningruhey guys how do you open a .lit file?02:27
Seveasnot infinite, just transcendent02:28
poningruis that possible?02:28
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paganponingru: with a can opener :P02:28
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HymnToLifelmao02:28
pagansorry!02:28
thompsbmi start pureftpd from init.d but it does not start...i don't get an error message and when i do ps grep i don't see the process02:29
patfmhi, does anyone know if there is some sort of patch I have to install to get a vaio laptop (xbrite) screen to work with X in ubuntu? I've tweaked xorg.conf ad nauseum and to no avail02:29
MrRioponingru: you mean those microsoft reader thingies?02:29
Seveasinfinity would be 02:29
NigelSponingru: with google! not heard of them before, and just found this - maybe it works -> http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/convlit.php02:29
thompsbmftp localhost02:29
thompsbmftp: connect: Connection refused02:29
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Corbierlut all02:29
poningruMrRio: yeah02:29
NigelSthompsbm: doesn't it spit out a log to /var/log?02:29
poningruNigelS: hmm thanks I am looking02:29
Badm4nany1 can help me to teach me step by step procedure to have 1 file like rc.local so i can put my own configuration with easy way02:30
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thompsbmNigelS: there is a pure-ftpd dir but nothing in it02:30
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MrRioponingru: not sure, but if you find a way let me know ;)02:31
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NigelSthompsbm: hmm, have you tried starting it yourself, not using it's init script02:31
dabugashi02:31
dabugasi get a "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" for the universe when i "apt-get update" from two different repositories. any ideas?02:31
thompsbmNigelS: no how would i do that?02:31
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zosologistk so ive got an old p2 233 with like 256 or 128mb ram dont rember atm, and a 3 gig hard drive that i want to set up as a web browsing comp, what linux distribution would you guys reccomend02:32
zosologistflashy gua would be nice, its for my parents02:32
paganhmmm Package irssi has no installation candidate <-- I love these...even software gets political :P```02:32
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NigelSthompsbm: I've not sed proftpd before but you should quickly look at the man page to find out the options for greater verbosity etc and then just run it from the CLI - proftpd --<options>02:32
burning_bronxzosologist, why don't you try a ubuntu install with openbox or fluxbox?02:32
thompsbmNigelS: i found /usr/sbin/pureftpd-mysql02:33
burning_bronxor maybe Xfce thought it's not all that lightweight02:33
Astxistzosologist, damn small linux maybe :) ?02:33
burning_bronxah02:33
pagandoh! cuz it was already installed...*smashes nogin on keyboard*02:33
zosologistAstxist, i was thinking dsl actually02:33
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Astxistactually I'd probably prefer burning_bronx's idea02:33
paganwhereis and there it was02:33
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thompsbmNigelS: loks like starting it from /usr/sbin/ worked02:34
NigelSpagan: the error doensn't imply it was already installed - sounds like there's a variant of the irssi package that actually gets irssi02:34
thompsbmNigelS: what would cause init to fail?02:34
burning_bronxwell mini-ram installs ain't that easy but easy enough if you don't mind printing a page for reference02:34
burning_bronx:)02:34
zosologistburning_bronx im a linux noob how much trouble is it gonna be to switch frontends? is it gonna cause conflicts and what not?02:34
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burning_bronxzosologist, when you do such an install you only install the server and then add the rest from console02:35
burning_bronxso you have to be familiar with the console and console text editors like nano02:35
NigelSthompsbm: all it does is run that script - but it really shouldn't fail. runing /etc/init.d/pro... restart should work - maybe it's a bug with your setup.  You can always have a peek in the script to see if you can spot anything02:36
burning_bronxother than that you just make a list of what you would need and install it with apt-get02:36
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pagan2hehehe02:36
dabugasi get a "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" for the universe when i "apt-get update" from two different repositories. any ideas?02:36
burning_bronxthere are pretty nice how-tos in the how-to section of the forums02:36
paganhehehe02:36
zosologistahhh02:36
paganoh brother I can chat with myself02:36
burning_bronxzosologist, you can print one and try it02:36
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paganthere irssi02:36
burning_bronxor if you want Xfce that would be a lot easier02:37
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burning_bronxyou make a server install and then do "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"02:37
zosologistburning_bronx: whats on the server install? everything but the gui or nothing but the kernal?02:37
paganthanks again Nigel:02:37
burning_bronxit's the base system02:37
zosologistahh02:37
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burning_bronxjust bare bones console02:38
Badm4nany1 can help me to teach me step by step procedure to have 1 file like rc.local so i can put my own configuration with easy way02:38
burning_bronxzosologist, open a terminal and type nano - that would give you an idea what the terminal text editor look like02:38
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burning_bronxyou would need to edit the sources.list with nano if you're gonna make such an install02:39
zosologistahh classy02:39
burning_bronxit's the very best text editor ;)02:39
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Noobhello02:39
Noobcould anyone help me with a little somthing?02:40
Noobplease?02:40
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HymnToLifesure No1Viking02:40
burning_bronxNoob, if we can we speak02:40
tiglionabbitWhy don't I have any C manuals?02:40
HymnToLifeNoob*02:40
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zosologistburning_bronx: suspect i got alot more to learn about linux before i try that02:40
AstxistNoob, just ask02:40
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zosologist:)02:40
NoobI'm runing liveCD5.1002:40
tiglionabbitman 3c anything gives me nothing!  How can I get the C manuals?02:40
burning_bronx:q02:40
pagantiglio: cuz they're not installed?02:40
Noobnow, I understand that I need to install packages to have, say, emacs and gcc.02:40
burning_bronxzosologist, it's not that much02:40
tiglionabbitpagan: well why not, and what package are they in?02:40
burning_bronxbesides you learn by doing stuff02:41
burning_bronxonly reading is not enough02:41
zosologistlol02:41
NoobI searched through the package manager, and I can't find DDD. What's the best way to add that?02:41
HymnToLifeNoob > you cannot install anything if you're running a live cd02:41
zosologistyeah thats why i dumped windows, jump in with both feet and what not02:41
coNPHymnToLife : why not?02:41
tiglionabbitNoob: ddd is in universe02:41
tiglionabbitHymnToLife: yes you can02:41
Noobokay.02:41
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claesDo I have to add the route 240.0.0.0 to get multicast to work or do it work out-of-the-box now in modern kernels?02:41
NoobIf I'm runing livecd, I can't add anything?02:41
Astxistzosologist, me too lots of fun02:41
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tiglionabbitNoob: yes you can actually02:41
holycowhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52385  <-- neat02:42
Nooboh, that's wonderful news. how do I do that?02:42
paganthey are in some docs package tuck deep in the dark dungeons hidden from those that are looking for'em...in other words I have no clue ...sorry! :P```02:42
tiglionabbitNoob: same way anyone does02:42
Nooboh, and where on the file system is my hard drive, btw? :-)02:42
holycowi think ubuntu has overtaken gentoo for usefull linux user/admin type of information overall02:42
tiglionabbitNoob: not mounted by default.  You can add it if you want02:42
HymnToLifeisn't the filesystem read-only when you run a live cd ?02:42
holycowmaybe not on the advanced tips/tricks side, but definately for the regular user stuff02:42
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tiglionabbitHymnToLife: no, it's not mounted by default.  You can mount it any way you want02:42
AstxistUbuntu is all02:42
johnsie2k!nfts02:42
ubotuI haven't a clue, johnsie2k02:42
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johnsie2k!nfts02:43
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HymnToLifeyeah but you need to have some free space somewhere02:43
tiglionabbitjohnsie2k: spell it right, ntfs02:43
tiglionabbit!ntfs02:43
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ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:43
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Noobyou mean free as in - not partitioned as NTFS?02:43
HymnToLifeif he's running the live cd, maybe his hd is full with a Windows install02:43
paganwhen you install ubuntu your harddrive melts and disappears...no more C:\Windoz ever again...*poof* gone02:43
zosologisthow much ram does gnome eat02:43
tiglionabbitHymnToLife: no, the liveCD runs from memory02:43
tiglionabbita fake hard drive in memory02:43
Astxistntfs disk mounting is also in the Help app02:43
Noobokay. I'll go read the help *sigh*.02:44
Noob:-)02:44
Noobthanks guys.02:44
tiglionabbitpagan: not true.  You can resize partitions and install dual boot02:44
burning_bronxzosologist, gnome is too heavy for the system you talk about02:44
HymnToLifeyeah but there might not be enough free space on it to install something02:44
HymnToLifedepends of the amount of ram02:44
burning_bronxand with the metacity wm I could say it's impossible02:44
zosologistburning_bronx: i suspected as much02:44
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tiglionabbitso anyway, does anyone know how I can get the C manuals?02:44
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pagantiglionabbit: yes I know that...I am just a gigantic smart (_!_) sorry! can't help myself02:45
claesjohnsie2k, look at this also: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/02:45
AstxistNoob, Help - Ubuntu starter's guide - windows partions02:45
Astxist*partitions02:45
paganone sec tiglionabbit02:45
pagani will find it02:45
Badm4nany1 can help me to teach me step by step procedure to have 1 file like rc.local so i can put my own configuration with easy way <-- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6963.html <-- is this url will werk ?02:46
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burning_bronxzosologist, have you checked the tuts on installing a mini-ram system?02:46
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XkiddiegrindersHello all02:47
zosologistburning_bronx, not the same as swap space i assume?02:47
pagando a search in synaptic for doc02:47
ubuntuSwitcheram i on the 383 or the 686 kernel? (Linux edubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux)02:47
burning_bronxmini-ram system = installation that doesn't require as much resources02:47
HymnToLifeubuntulog > uname -r02:48
zosologistahh nope havent checked02:48
ubuntuSwitcherthanks ubuntulog02:48
Astxisthi Xkiddiegrinders02:48
HymnToLifeyou're on 386 (sorry I didn't read the whole msg ^^')02:48
ubuntuSwitcher:) np i got it02:48
XkiddiegrindersIm new to linux and im absolutely loving it02:48
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XkiddiegrindersI just got it running today02:49
AstxistXkiddiegrinders, ^_^02:49
tiglionabbitoh, it's manpages-dev02:49
tiglionabbityay02:49
claesXkiddiegrinders, Welcome to the bright life on the Linux side. Isn't it great!02:49
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XkiddiegrindersIndeed it is wonderful02:49
Astxistlinux have shiney UI, I approve :)02:50
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johnsie2kI've mounted an ntfs file system.... is there any way i can chnage the names of the icons for someone who isnt used to linux?02:50
XkiddiegrindersIm mainly a mac user but linux is making me drool with anticipation of all the fun things I could tweak02:50
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NOVAhi02:50
XkiddiegrindersI had a couple of problems but found all my solutions in the forums at ubuntulinux.org02:51
AstxistXkiddiegrinders, yeah it screams play with me02:51
NOVAi have got a P4 3,2 Ghz this is i686 or i386 packages?02:51
zosologistburning_bronx: so why not just install DSL, its almost all the features packed with it that one would need for a browsing box02:51
HymnToLifeNOVA > run uname -r02:51
Xkiddiegrindersthere is one thing I cant figure out02:51
Xkiddiegrinderstorrents02:51
burning_bronxzosologist, cause we're in the ubuntu channel :P02:51
HymnToLifelol02:52
zosologistburning_bronx lol02:52
burning_bronxbesides the installation type that I am talkin about gives you more power over features02:52
zosologistfair enough02:52
zosologistahhh02:52
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johnsie2kis there like a txt file teeling ubuntu which drives to mount?02:52
claesXkiddiegrinders, What about torrents?02:52
burning_bronxjohnsie2k, there is /etc/fstab02:52
claesjohnsie2k, /etc/fstab02:52
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burning_bronxlol claes  :)02:52
claesTo sloow again.02:52
johnsie2kyeah thats the one i thinjk, thanks :-)02:52
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, Well Im trying to run Azureus and when I get a torrent file and try to use it there is no connection02:52
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burning_bronxXkiddiegrinders, you sure there are seeders?02:53
Xkiddiegrindersyep, positive02:53
burning_bronxaside from that I suggest you use something else - Azureus is a memory hog and greatly overrated02:53
XkiddiegrindersIve had problems with my net connection on here02:53
LukianXkiddiegrinders: i get that too02:53
claesXkiddiegrinders, Have read somewhere you have to use the jre1.5 not jre1.4 to get the networking parts to work.02:53
HighHopesHello! I'm using an RT2500 Wireless Card in my old laptop with APM (Not ACPI). I wish I could avoid wireless card to "sleep" when I don't use it for a given period of time... How can I achieve this? Thanks!02:54
Xkiddiegrinderssolved it for this and gaim by substituting the server names for their IP's02:54
Lukianburning_bronx: the default bittorent client under gnome on ubuntu isn't much better02:54
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burning_bronxyou mean BitTornado?02:54
claesin Azureus that is.02:54
alterimhey are there any decent games for linux?02:54
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HymnToLifealterim > frozen bubble :p02:54
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wafehello02:55
HymnToLifehi wafe02:55
XkiddiegrindersHow goes it wafe02:55
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wafethx, fine & self?02:55
XkiddiegrindersIm good02:56
alterimlooks cool02:56
claesXkiddiegrinders, Sounds like it's a dns resolver problem. Check /etc/resolv.conf02:56
wafeit`s good to hear02:56
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Xkiddiegrindersclaes, how do I check that?02:56
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, ive tried but it wont let me edit it02:56
aeon17x!w32codecs02:56
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:56
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claesXkiddiegrinders, cat /etc/resolv.conf to look at it.02:56
HymnToLifeXkiddiegrinders > run it with sudo02:56
claesXkiddiegrinders, sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf02:57
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wafeexit02:57
wafeq02:57
Xkiddiegrinderssearch domain.actdsltmp02:57
Xkiddiegrindersnameserver 192.168.0.102:57
Xkiddiegrindersnameserver 205.171.3.6502:57
Xkiddiegrindersthats what it gave me02:57
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claesXkiddiegrinders, Change the order of the nameserver lines and se what happens. You would probably need to restart the program.02:58
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alterimare there any good binary usenet downloaders for linux?02:59
claesalterim, pan02:59
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alterimok, yeah i tried pan on xp a while back02:59
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Fushiis there a command to see whats using up system resources?02:59
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XkiddiegrindersWOOT that did it!03:00
claesFushi, top03:00
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LukianFushi: apps -> system tools -> system monitor for gui? :p03:00
HymnToLifeFushi > apps > system tools > system monitor03:00
Fushithanks, thats what i was looking for :D03:00
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Xkiddiegrindersand to think...thats all it was for all those programs03:00
mitei just got a usb2ethernet device for my laptop.  wonder what the chances are it will work with ubuntu.03:00
FushiWell those work too I guess03:00
FushixP03:00
claesXkiddiegrinders, Great!03:00
Xkiddiegrindersclaes. indeed.03:00
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, thank you very much! :D03:01
paganteach just asked me why I have a DOS shell opened...I told'em I like the finer things in life...LOL tis putty installed into my profile :p03:01
Lukianmite: are we placing bets?03:01
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claesXkiddiegrinders, Glad I could help.03:01
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miteperhaps if youre interested Lukian we could speak in private03:01
Astxistpagan, heh I used to get that but I was actually using the dos shell ;p03:01
Xkiddiegrindersits seems a lot of people have the same problem with the modem and service I have03:01
mitehehe03:01
Xkiddiegrindersqwest Dsl with actiontec modem03:01
alterimok03:02
alterimi installed frozen bubble03:02
alterimit has no sound at all03:02
alterimhow do i get my computer to do sound..03:02
paganwe are supposed to not be able to use telnet here ...funny if I open internet exploder and type telnet poof there it is03:02
alterimxp did sound03:02
claesXkiddiegrinders, Well 192.168.0.1 is an internal ip address it will never work on the internet. So I guessed that the internal DNS was hosted.03:02
alterimand wireless03:02
claespagan, Windows security at it's best!03:03
Lukianalterim: great, go use xp.03:03
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alterimwell you could help me then i might persevere!03:03
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, makes sense03:03
Lukianmite: hehe, i haven't tried obscure devices yet, all my hardware has worked out of box03:04
paganclaes: it is either that which I vote on or..the admin has a mcse LOL03:04
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, do you know of any good sites for linuxs apps?03:04
tRSSQuick question: On ubuntu 5.10, trying to authenticate with win2k3 domain controller, I get this error when doing kinit admin_account@domain: "KDC has no support for encryption type while getting initial credentials". What does this mean?03:04
alterimcan anyone tell me how do i get frozen bubble to make sound?03:04
miteLukian, wheres an 8ball when you need one?03:04
mite:)03:04
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paganalterim: thaw it out :P03:04
Lukianlet's see what Wanda says, mite! :D03:04
alterimaka i don't know?03:05
LukianKiss me, Kate, we will be married o' Sunday.03:05
Lukian-- William Shakespeare, "The Taming of the Shrew"03:05
claesXkiddiegrinders, www.freshmeat.net have alot.03:05
mitewe will find out soon enough03:05
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, awesome03:05
miteill report my findings later this evening03:05
alterimso, anyone know how to fix the sound?!03:05
claespagan, Probably both. :-)03:05
Lukianmore relevantly mite: An exotic journey in downtown Newark is in your future.03:05
mitehmmm03:05
oli_vertalterim, are your other sounds ok? try running alsactl from a command line and make sure none are muted03:05
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miteapparently i must go to newark to obtain a wired ethernet connection for my laptop03:06
miteperplexing..03:06
alterimthe only sounds i've had are from gaim03:06
alterimnothing else seems to give any sound03:06
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mitealterim, what about when gaim is closed03:06
claesalterim, close gaim and see if you have sound then.03:06
paganclaes: I just asked the teach...he definitely has a MCSE love this world of certified nobodys that once upon a time cringed to the idea of even dealing with a computer...weee03:07
alterimno sound!03:07
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john2khi03:07
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paganjohn2k: harrow03:07
tRSSQuick question: On ubuntu 5.10, trying to authenticate with win2k3 domain controller, I get this error when doing kinit admin_account@domain: "KDC has no support for encryption type while getting initial credentials". What does this mean?03:07
claespagan, Well I can say much about certifications. I work with it. As an instructor.03:08
Xkiddiegrindersclaes, do you frequent the forums at ubuntulinux.org?03:08
john2khi, I'm trying to apt-get something  but I keep getting the messag: E: Unable to lock the list directory03:08
alterimi get alert sounds and sounds from gaim, that's it03:08
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alterimwhen i run frozen bubble i get nothing03:08
Badm4nhttp://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv <--- is this enough to have rc.local like other distro ? using default or level 2 or 3 or........... ?03:08
tRSSjohn2k: close synaptic03:08
john2kdid that03:08
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john2kstill happening03:08
tiglionabbitjohn2k: that means you're trying to run two interfaces to apt at the same time, or are not root03:08
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tRSSjohn2k: you have something else running in the background (perhaps software update) that is not allowing you to do apt-get03:08
claesXkiddiegrinders, Read them sometimes. But not that often.03:08
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john2kI'm root and all i ahve open is one terminal03:09
tiglionabbitjohn2k: by interfaces to apt I include apt-get, aptitude, "Add Programs", Synaptic, Kynaptic, etc03:09
Xkiddiegrindersclaes. alrighty just wondering03:09
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paganclaes: I am 43 years old...I have over 25 years of computing experience...I can't bring myself to get a cert...dunno why...just can't do it...err03:09
alterimanyone help me work out why i have no sound?03:09
claesXkiddiegrinders, If I didn't need to work i would be there more. .-)03:09
john2ki have one terminal open, thats all03:09
tiglionabbitjohn2k: say "ps aux | grep apt" and see if anything else with apt in its name is running03:09
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tiglionabbitjohn2k: and to be sure you're root, say "whoami".  It should respond "root"03:10
claespagan, Not even when ubuntu realeses it's certification program? :-)03:10
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paganclaes: you gotta be kiddin, are you for real? ubuntu is gonna have a cert program?03:10
john2kok i found a truckload of stuff... how do i likk them?03:11
pagan<--naive03:11
tiglionabbitjohn2k: likk?  You mean kill?03:11
alterimanyone help me work out why i have no sound?03:11
john2kyeah03:11
john2klol03:11
claespagan, I'm only 30 and have 15 years of computer ecperience. And I have boxes at home with certifications. Yes they will. It's gonna build on top of LPI cert.03:11
alterimhow is linux ever going to become a standard if03:11
claespagan, See if I can find the link.03:11
alterimsound doesn't work03:11
alterimwireless cards don't work03:11
tiglionabbitjohn2k: um, first let me be sure you're not killing anything essential.  Paste them here and give me the url: http://pastebin.com03:11
Astxistsound works for me03:11
alterimand everything doesn't work, i mean03:12
claespagan, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/partners/certification/03:12
burning_bronxalterim, they do work ;) but you gotta make it work sometimes03:12
burning_bronx:P03:12
paganthanks claes...maybe I might get that cert LOL windoz certs NO!03:12
john2kwireless cards work well in ubuntu03:12
HIghoSalterim: Considering how 'easy' it is today, you shouldn't complain.  Should have seen what it was like 6 years ago.03:12
tiglionabbitalterim: actually, all of those things work for most people.  Specific hardware has problems though03:12
HIghoS^^03:12
alterimhmm!03:12
burning_bronxtalk about specific hardware... I hate my SiS graphics card >.>03:12
paganya once upon a time you were told to go RTFM and that was that :P03:12
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HIghoSpagan: Heh.03:13
alterimnot much has changed then03:13
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tiglionabbitpagan: but rtfm-ing is so educational!03:13
alterimso, i have system sound, but i load frozen bubble, and i have no sound03:13
claespagan, You can have some of my win cert. I don't need them.03:13
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pagani know i did RTFM and what a dry read that was ZzzzZZzzz03:13
alterimi thought frozen bubble was supposed to have cool music!03:13
Seveas!lart pagan03:13
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epsis the  linux-image for 2.6.12-10-386 built using gcc4.x or still 3.6?03:13
tiglionabbitalterim: then ESD is having trouble mixing two streams of sound03:13
Seveasgood manuals are not boring :)03:13
alterimok. so what can i do to fix that?03:13
tiglionabbitalterim: simple solution is "killall esd" before running frozen bubble, but then you get no system sounds.03:14
JoshXhi, where do i add a global PATH entry? so that the entire server knows it?03:14
Allanwhen I run "sudo _________", it doesn't matter what's in the blank; it just does nothing and goes to the command prompt. why does it do this?03:14
alterimhmm03:14
pagannah! i been lookin for work and a lot of companies i interviewed for were asking for win certs and I just refuse to give into that...just can't do it03:14
alterimbut i want system sounds too03:14
claespagan, Perhaps I'm weird. But I like reading manuals and HOWTOS.03:14
Allanand how do I get it working?03:14
oli_vertalterim, try running esddsp frozen-bubble03:14
tiglionabbitalterim: actually, it's probably a better idea to go to system-> prefs -> multimedia systems selector and select "alsa" in both categories03:14
burning_bronxclaes, that is weird >.>03:14
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burning_bronx<.<03:14
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burning_bronxUsually people only read those when they need them ~_~;03:15
paganclaes: you gotta see my library here...over 3,000 books of plain dry reading...all manuals on computing...my wife is threatening to toss them :(03:15
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Allanclaes: It's probably that I'm weird too, but it seems fine for me.03:15
Allanmaybe even fun03:15
mephis1987Hello03:15
burning_bronxpagan you're pretty extreme aren't you ~_~03:15
claesI usualy start by reading them. And googling for what I'm doing. I usualy fix everything that way.03:15
burning_bronxthen again maybe I am just too young03:15
mephis1987I have just installed ubuntu linux the first time03:15
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mephis1987by default03:16
john2kok I paste bined it03:16
mephis1987it installed in 2 partition03:16
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alterimso i've chosen alsa as my INPUT and it's frozen Multimedia Systems Selector03:16
burning_bronxmephis1987, congrats ;) there's nothing like the first time ;P03:16
alterimnice one03:16
mephis1987the main partition and the swap one03:16
pagannah! I just collected them over the last 5 years...some probably need to be tossed cuz they are outdated but I can't do it LOL03:16
AllanHow do I get sudo to work? No matter what I run with it, it does nothing and asks for another command.03:16
mephis1987but someone told me that I should install some folder in seperate partition?03:17
mephis1987is it right?03:17
burning_bronxAllan, you do "sudo command"03:17
burning_bronxthen it asks for a pass03:17
Allanyes03:17
paganAllan: sounds like you are not in your sudoers list03:17
claespagan, I love all the old O'reilly books about X. I wanna go home and read them now. Again. And the books about NIS. Was along time a looked in them. My evening is saved.03:17
mephis1987such as /var folder03:17
Allanno it doesn't burning bronx03:17
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tiglionabbitalterim: you can add a force-quit button to your gnome panels for situations like that =] 03:17
Allansudoing worked day before yesterday03:17
mephis1987should i install it in the seperate partition03:17
burning_bronxhmmm03:17
alterimjust a shame it does it!03:17
burning_bronxmephis1987, what are you trying to install for Christ sake?03:18
alterimyou'd think after a few years of thousands of developers..03:18
mephis1987:D03:18
tiglionabbitjohn2k: you still there?03:18
mephis1987yes03:18
Allansudo echo hi03:18
paganLOL claes...you are as bad as me...my wife refuses to come near me when I have a manual in my hands for fear I may talk about it LOL03:18
Noobanyway, I went to read the help file. It says I need to change /etc/../sources.list03:18
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john2kYeah03:18
john2kI've pasted it in03:18
Noobbut it's (understandably) read only.03:18
mephis1987I installed Ubuntu linux and using it :D03:18
Noobas I'm using LiveCD.03:18
alterimok, i run frozen bubble, no sound03:18
Allanthen it says: allan@Owl - ~$03:18
Noobany way around it?03:18
tiglionabbitjohn2k: paste the url then03:18
alterimon the frozen bubble menu, the sound box is empty and selecting it does nothing03:18
john2khttp://pastebin.com/47505303:18
HymnToLifeNoob > why not installing ubuntu on your hard drive ?03:19
coNPNoob, are you sure is is read-only?03:19
burning_bronxmephis1987, there should be no need for a separate partition when you install software... that's plain dumb o_O;03:19
epsis the  linux-image for 2.6.12-10-386 built using gcc4.x or still 3.6?03:19
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tiglionabbitjohn2k: I said "ps aux | grep apt"03:19
JoshXi don't get it.. where do i add a path in ubuntu so it is loaded at startup03:19
mephis1987but someone told me i should put /var folder on a seperate partition03:19
mephis1987no03:19
tiglionabbitjohn2k: not just "ps aux"03:19
JoshXi tried /etc/init.d/rcS03:19
mephis1987not software03:19
claespagan, My girlfriend knows that I don't answer when I'm reading. Both books or the web. She usualy throw things at me to get my attention.03:19
JoshXi tried the daemon start script03:19
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JoshXusing export and everything03:19
Noobyeah, but I think I found the way they meant it to be now.03:19
Noobwhy not on HD?03:19
JoshXit's just not there after a rebootr03:19
Kamping_Kaisereps: 3.603:19
mephis1987some special folders03:19
AllanHow does sudo work? that might help solve my problem03:19
NoobCause I'm noob. :-)03:19
NoobNo, seriously, I don't feel ready yet.03:20
john2kok lol03:20
claespagan, Like now. Well best to see what she wants.03:20
epsKamping_Kaiser is there one built on 4.x? (hey man :P)03:20
burning_bronxmephis1987, can you explain what are you talking about?03:20
john2kI porgram too much.. saw | as or lol03:20
tiglionabbitjohn2k: "ps aux" lists every process that's running.  grep searches that output for a particular word and only prints the lines with that word on it03:20
NoobI still need a working computer, I figure I better learn the ropes before I make my pc dependent on my linux knowladge.03:20
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Kamping_Kaiserhi mate ;) no, don't think so03:20
epscause the current build-essential is 4.x and I can't compile anything since the kernel is 3.603:20
mephis1987yes03:20
tiglionabbitjohn2k: in linux/unix, | is a pipe.  It means take the output of the first program and use it as the input of the second program03:20
burning_bronxeps, that's a known issue...03:20
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AllanHow do I get sudo to work?03:21
Kamping_Kaiser'complie anything'?03:21
Kamping_Kaiseryou should only have issues with kernel modules03:21
paganclaes: she just holds that finger up and says "Uhh don't even" LOL :P03:21
mephis1987here03:21
mephis1987                                        /var03:21
mephis1987  This directory contains variable data files.03:21
mephis1987q03:21
mephis1987        This includes spool directories, administrative and logging files, and03:21
mephis1987      r03:21
mephis1987        transient or temporary files.03:21
mephis1987  Programs record runtime information.03:21
mephis1987q03:21
tiglionabbitdon't paste things please03:21
mephis1987  It is often good to make /var a separate partition during installatio03:21
mcphaileps: i think it is gcc-3.4. You can install that quite easily03:21
mephis1987q03:21
Kamping_Kaisermephis1987: oi03:21
Kamping_Kaiserdon't flood03:21
JoshXanyone !?03:21
mephis1987look at the bottom line03:21
epsmcphail mmm...will have to do that03:21
epsbbs03:21
john2kok......... http://pastebin.com/47506403:22
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burning_bronxmephis1987, if you've installed it already then there should be a /var foldier in your root03:22
mephis1987it says It is often good to make /var a separate partition during installation03:22
mephis1987yes03:22
AllanWhere is another chat room where I can get help?03:22
Kamping_KaiserJoshX: what's wrong?03:22
mephis1987but if the next time i install linux03:22
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: i need /usr/local/myapp/bin03:22
Kamping_KaiserAllan: linux-help, linuxhelp, others03:22
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: to be in the global path03:22
alterimi'd really appreciate if someone could help me get sound playing in frozen bubble03:22
mephis1987do i have to make a seperate partition for this03:22
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: i just can't figure out where to put it03:22
burning_bronxmephis1987, it's not obligatory03:22
epsthanks mcphail will save me updating the kernel03:22
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mephis1987is :d03:22
mephis1987i see03:23
tiglionabbitjohn2k: okay, look at that.  See process 9292?  That's apt-get running there.  So, that's why you can't lock the directory03:23
epsKamping_Kaiser compiling vmware, my mistake a kernel module :P03:23
Kamping_KaiserJoshX: I'm not sure, but i think you type $path=$path:/extra/bit/of/path03:23
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Kamping_Kaisereps ;)03:23
mephis1987but what s the advantage of doing that03:23
john2khow do i kill it?03:23
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: i tried03:23
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paganwell of to maya class...laterz folks...keep on fixin :P03:23
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: i did that in my init.d script03:23
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: it just doesn't export it03:23
dieffelhi! how do i install the "make" utility... so that i can compile source-code?03:23
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: then when i do it at the prompt03:23
mcphaileps: vmware modules compile fine when you have gcc 3.4 installed03:23
Kamping_KaiserJoshX: cant help then. (i havent needed to hack that stuff)03:23
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: exact that command..03:24
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: you never needed to change your path?03:24
Kamping_KaiserJoshX: no03:24
Kamping_Kaiserwhy would i :)03:24
JoshXright..03:24
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Kamping_Kaiseri put stuff in /usr/loca/blahl, and symlink it to /user/local/bin03:24
Kamping_Kaiser*usr/03:24
zosologisthow hard is it to set up wifi on ubuntu?03:24
Noobanyway, how do I mount my HD while runing LiveCD?03:24
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: hrmpf03:25
burning_bronxcheck out the new Xorg version: X Window System Version 6.99.99.904 (7.0.0 RC 4)03:25
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:25
JoshXKamping_Kaiser: that sounds icky :)03:25
mephis19871 more thing03:25
burning_bronxand Xorg 7 was officialy released already >.>03:25
mephis1987do linux have some programme like ghost03:25
Kamping_KaiserJoshX: no it's not :) it's squeaky clean03:25
tiglionabbitjohn2k: well I'll tell you how to kill it, but first be sure you want to.  To kill it, just say "kill 9292" to kill that process.  But first, why not try and figure out why it's running?  It seems to have started at the same time as /etc/cr.  What's in that file?03:25
mephis1987can i ghost linux on my pc to another pc ?03:25
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tiglionabbitmephis1987: ghost?03:26
mephis1987uhm03:26
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Benixhi03:26
mephis1987copy exactly what on my pc to another pc03:26
john2kI have no idea lol03:26
Benixhow can I find out which driver for my wlancard is used?03:26
john2kbash: kill: (9292) - Operation not permitted03:26
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burning_bronxjohn2k do sudo kill03:27
tiglionabbitmephis1987: there's the thin client protocol I heard about.  You can access your own machine through vncviewer or ssh on their machine.  I'm not sure exactly what you want03:27
tiglionabbitjohn2k: uh, sudo kill it?03:27
john2knm it worked with suo03:27
john2kthanks03:27
tiglionabbitk03:27
john2k :-003:27
burning_bronxlol03:27
burning_bronx>.>03:27
burning_bronxweird guy.03:27
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Noobhow do I mount the hard drive?03:27
Noobplease?03:27
burning_bronxthen again most of the ppl in here are geeks including me <.<03:27
claesmephis1987, Check www.portlocksoftware.com after a program called storage manager.03:28
mephis1987i have 2 pc and i have installed ubuntu linux on 1 of them , now i want to install linux on the other one , and copy exactly what on the 1 st pc to the 2nd one03:28
mephis1987i m checking that page03:29
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Noobokay. thanks again. I'll be off.03:29
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tiglionabbithmm, interesting.  john2k was actually completely correct in that he had not run apt-get03:30
tiglionabbitit was run by /etc/cron.daily/apt03:30
burning_bronxhmmm03:30
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tiglionabbitI didn't realize cron updates apt every day03:30
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burning_bronxit does03:31
deltronit does?03:31
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tiglionabbityes, it does03:31
mephis1987uhm03:31
burning_bronxthat's how I get my morning share of updates ~_~;03:31
mephis1987sorry , what is cron?03:31
mephis1987i m quite new here03:31
tiglionabbitcron is a schedular.  It runs things at times03:31
deltronah, so it does :)03:31
mephis1987ah03:31
mephis1987thanks a lot03:31
burning_bronxbtw today there was this really fat dapper update ~_~03:31
tiglionabbitgood to see things are getting done03:32
burning_bronxyeh03:32
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burning_bronxand since X.org 7 is officially released we'd probably see it in dapper preeetty soon03:32
tiglionabbithas the new enlightenment been released yet?03:33
mephis1987what is the major difference between KDE and Gnome ?03:33
HymnToLifemephis1987 > there are lots03:33
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mephis1987why Linus himself to user to use KDE not Gnome03:33
mephis1987he told user to use KDE03:33
HymnToLifebecause he prefers KDE, maybe...03:34
pagancool someone installed chatzilla in here03:34
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Seveasburning_bronx, s/soon/already/03:34
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holycow*hmmm*03:34
freebybeacause gnome is ubuntu03:34
burning_bronxSeveas?03:34
mephis1987:d03:34
mephis1987gnome is ubuntu ?03:34
NeuralNetthe eletric energie stoped when i was upgrading03:34
burning_bronxmephis1987, using gnome or KDE is a matter of choice03:34
Seveasburning_bronx, Xorg 7 is already landing in Dapper03:34
tiglionabbitmephis1987: why don't you discover the differences for yourself?  Install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop on the same machine, and choose which one when you log in03:34
NeuralNetand pat now give errors03:34
mephis1987wow03:34
burning_bronxSeveas, I know I am running the latest RC03:35
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irvinSeveas, hey you're back!03:35
burning_bronxbut the official release is out now03:35
NeuralNetroot@host:/home/user# apt-get upgrade03:35
NeuralNetE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:35
mephis1987how can i install KDE03:35
yatesytheres plenty more than just KDE and Gnome you know :P03:35
Seveasirvin, no, that's just your imagination03:35
mephis1987pls help03:35
NeuralNetroot@host:/home/user# dpkg --configure -a03:35
NeuralNetdpkg: errore di formato, nel file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0013' vicino alla riga 1:03:35
NeuralNet newline nel nome del campo `padding'03:35
Seveasmephis1987, apt-get remove --purge brain && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:35
omahow can i deny access to the backround properties menu (gnome)?03:35
tiglionabbitmephis1987: open synaptic, find kubuntu-desktop, and install it03:35
HymnToLifemephis1987 > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:35
SeveasNeuralNet, NEVER paste in here03:35
omai know pessulus and sabayon and gconf-editor03:35
yatesylaff Seveas03:35
irvinSeveas,  you were missed last CC meeting03:35
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tiglionabbitlol Seveas03:35
holycowquick tar question ... i tarred up the /media/usbdisk directory, and now when i untar it it is untarring /media/usbdisk/everything else ... this makes sense.  how does one tar/untar the contents of /media/usbdisk for example, so just the contents of the /media/usbdisk is extracted to the target?  how do you strip out the /media/usbdisk if at all?03:36
Seveasirvin, yes I know, still have to read the logs03:36
rambo3any ides what program is there to connect to ms-dos intersvr from linux over com port direct cable03:36
NeuralNetok i reinstall ubuntu03:36
Seveasholycow, when tarring you should do: tar -C /media/usbdisk .03:36
Seveas(the . is needed there)03:36
NeuralNetfor adjust apt e dpkg03:36
holycowSeveas, i need to preserve permissions so that would be -Cp then?03:36
Seveastar -C /media/usbdisk cf backup-of-usbdisk.tar.gz .03:37
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Seveasand the p too indeed03:37
tiglionabbitholycow: the C has to be followed by the directory.  So, tar -pC03:37
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omathe users must not right klick on gnome desktop, what do i have to change?03:37
NeuralNetok03:37
NeuralNetciao03:37
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holycowah! thanks!03:37
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omathe users must not right klick on gnome desktop, what do i have to change? (gnome)03:37
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=== xester good morning
HymnToLifeoma > why not ?03:38
yatesyerr what?!03:38
paganhow can I tell what version of ubuntu I have? from the CLI03:38
yatesyoma: what is this, windows? :P03:38
burning_bronxoma, pretty windowish of you >.>03:38
omano03:38
mcphailoma: give them a MacOS mouse03:38
yatesyrofl!03:38
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omalol no they must not change the backround settings ;-)03:38
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tiglionabbithow did #ubuntu get so witty and snyde03:38
Argentinohola soy de argentina03:38
burning_bronxpeople should be able to do whatever inside their user accounts - that's freedom03:38
Argentinoalguien habla espaol03:39
Argentino??03:39
Seveas!es03:39
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:39
yatesyoma: so what?03:39
burning_bronxArgentino, yo >.>03:39
omayes but i do not want to deny anything at all ...03:39
seliniumpagan, lsb_release -a  :)03:39
yatesyoma: if you want a static account then mount the home partition read only or something03:39
tiglionabbitoma: is there any reason why you don't want people to right-click on it?03:39
paganselinium: thanks :)03:39
omai want to create a very simple desktop (only 5 options) for my grandparents ;-)03:39
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seliniumpagan, np :)03:39
yatesydon't run gnome then03:40
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Lord_Athurhow can I descompress a squashfs file?03:40
Seveasoma, make their .gnome and .gconf dirs readonly and owned by root :)03:40
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Argentinoburning_bronx,  como estas de donde sos?03:40
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tiglionabbitSeveas: is that really a good idea?03:40
SeveasArgentino, stick to english in here03:40
pagan5.10 breezy03:40
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burning_bronxsoy de bulgaria pero estudio espanol03:40
Seveastiglionabbit, no03:40
omaSeveas: It does not work03:40
ArgentinoSeveas,  fucking nigger03:40
Seveasburning_bronx, stick to english in here03:40
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pagan:)03:40
burning_bronxSeveas, I am not even spanish ;P03:40
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omano help?03:41
yatesyoma: if you don't want them to do anything but those 5 tasks, then don't run a complicated window manager03:41
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paganArgentino: that is entirely unneccessary03:41
Seveaspagan, he's gone already03:41
yatesyoma: use something very basic and just have icons on the desktop or something03:41
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Seveasoma, maybe no one knows :)03:42
pagangood and gone they should be03:42
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burning_bronxoma, you can always concider Seveas' advice >.>03:42
omait is no problem to create the .gnome file03:42
john2kUbuntu has given my ntfs partitioin the name /media/0 GB Disk (hdb7)   how do i chnage that something easier to type?03:42
Seveasburning_bronx, it's a bad idea though03:42
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Ste1987is Ubuntu Debian i've always wondered that.....03:42
HymnToLifejohn2k > edit your /etc/fstab file03:43
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burning_bronxSte1987, it's based on Debian, nothing more03:43
Seveasjohn2k, /media/hdb7 will also work if you used the script I think you used03:43
omabut i only want to know how to deactivate the menubar that opens when you do i right click03:43
Seveas!debian03:43
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/03:43
Seveas^-- Ste198703:43
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tiglionabbitMurdock is such a nerdy name03:43
john2kTjhanks Seveas :-)03:44
yatesyoma: are you even listening? use a basic wm and use idesk or something03:44
burning_bronxtiglionabbit, we are all nerds in a way03:44
burning_bronx>.>03:44
tiglionabbitburning_bronx: I know.  I'm definitely one03:44
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christianphi all03:44
tiglionabbitI mean, guess what I'm doing to entertain myself right now?03:44
omai know fluxbox etc. but not idesk03:44
yatesydo we really want to know? :P03:44
burning_bronxoma, idesk is a desktop for fluxbox03:45
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burning_bronxgives you icons03:45
yatesywrong03:45
HymnToLifetiglionabbit > chatting on a nerdy chan :p03:45
yatesyits not specific to anything03:45
burning_bronxam I?03:45
tiglionabbitI'm writing an ADT in C that uses circular sets of doubly-linked nodes, so you can insert, remove, unlink, and merge them, without any control structures or sentinels03:45
christianpdoes anyone can help me in configuring my ubuntu machine to play midi files? (if i can play it with rosegarden4, it whas the best)03:45
omacan you give me a link to idesk please ?03:45
yatesycould run it on gnome if u wanted, it'd look silly but still ;)03:45
burning_bronxyatesy, you are right03:45
yatesyoma: use google03:45
oma^^03:45
burning_bronxfluxdesk is specific03:45
burning_bronx>.>03:46
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yatesyya :)03:46
pagan<--BIG NERD..or as my wife calls me a BIG TURD LOL :P03:46
yatesyfascinating03:46
tiglionabbityour wife calls you that...03:46
HymnToLifelol03:46
christianpdoes anyone can help me in configuring my ubuntu machine to play midi files? (if i can play it with rosegarden4, it was the best)03:46
christianp:-))03:46
mephis1987hello03:46
mephis1987  mount -t type device mountpoint options03:46
mephis1987r03:46
paganuh huh she loves me03:46
mephis1987what is mount ?03:46
pagan:)03:46
HymnToLifechristianp > we can read...03:46
Seveasmephis1987, man mount03:46
mephis1987what does this command do ?03:46
Seveasit attaches device to your VFS tree03:46
tiglionabbitchristianp: there's a module you have to load to make rosegarden work.  I forget which one, lemme look it up03:46
burning_bronxpagan, if you fall in love with a nerd nothing saves you ;)03:46
christianpHymnToLife, i did a mistake03:46
burning_bronxthat's what they should teach women03:46
burning_bronx;P03:46
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Seveasor better: it attaches filesystems to your VFS tree03:47
burning_bronxcause we are so seksi and inteligent ;p03:47
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Ste1987so Ubuntu is basicly Debian03:47
paganburning_bronx: tis true tis soooo true :)03:47
christianptiglionabbit, but i can't play midifiles, with no player!!!03:47
HymnToLifeyeah, right you are burning_bronx :p03:47
burning_bronxSte1987, Ubuntu is not Debian >.>03:47
tiglionabbitchristianp: rosegarden doesn't play them?03:47
yatesySte1987: its built on debian unstable, with a few additions03:47
pagan(((_!_)))03:47
christianpno :-(03:47
burning_bronxif Ubuntu was Debian I wouldn't be using it03:47
st3fhello03:47
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christianprosegarden is an editor03:48
jullsBuenas03:48
SeveasSte1987, no, Ubuntu is not basically Debian03:48
Seveasthere are quite a few differences03:48
christianpbut doesn't play03:48
Seveasread that webpage ubotu gave03:48
Ste1987unstable no wonder it lags:P03:48
HymnToLifewhat's wrong with debian burning_bronx  ?03:48
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yatesyhaha yea whatever03:48
burning_bronxHymnToLife, it's too slow and too stable for me03:48
Ste1987im using edubuntu03:48
burning_bronxI like to break things03:48
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HymnToLifelol03:48
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phanterhello. I have problems with skype. I followed that online ubuntuguide. It works for 1 call,, and after that it does not work anymore :(. How could I fix this?03:48
HymnToLifeyou're a tr00 g33k :p03:48
tiglionabbitchristianp: um, lets see..   there's something called playmidi I believe03:48
burning_bronxbut so far Dapper is moving too stable - nothing broken and I use it since the start03:48
tiglionabbitchristianp: mplayer plays them03:49
Seveasphanter, ubuntuguide is not the best source for help...03:49
HymnToLifeoh03:49
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HymnToLifeI might consider upgrading to dapper then03:49
phanterSeveas, that is why I am here now ;-)03:49
burning_bronxtr00 g33k5 are un133703:49
SeveasHymnToLife, it's all very hardware specific whether you get bitten by bugs or not03:49
Ste1987my terminal won't load up....03:49
burning_bronxHymnToLife, that it's running fine for some doesn't mean it won't eradicate your system03:49
burning_bronx^_^03:49
HymnToLifehmm ok :p03:49
burning_bronxbut I think there would be less breaks now that Xorg 7 is officially released03:50
burning_bronx~_~03:50
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Ngerr03:50
Ngnonsense03:50
Seveasburning_bronx, fglrx still breaks03:50
tiglionabbitchristianp: do you remember the module it needed?03:50
Ngit will break randomly until april03:50
Seveasbut that's a kernel issue03:50
phanterbut how can I install skype in the best way? who knows a source that does work?03:50
Ngif you don't know what you're doing, don't run dapper03:50
burning_bronxSeveas, I was talking bout Xorg related issues >.>03:51
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HymnToLifephanter > www.skype.com has a .deb file if I remember well03:51
Seveasphanter, deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas extras03:51
christianptiglionabbit, it says "rosegarden sequencer can't initialize module" (or something like this, sorry is an italian message and i try to translate it)03:51
Seveasthe skype.com deb does not work03:51
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burning_bronxNg, as I said that it didn't kill sum1's system it doesn't mean it won't kill yours03:51
SAM_themanMorning my little ones03:51
christianptiglionabbit, but other player can't play it03:51
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burning_bronxwell I just fixed the dependency in the deb skype.com gives03:52
burning_bronxthat works too03:52
christianpi think there will be a way to configure audio to play midi03:52
mephis1987oh no03:52
burning_bronxo_O;03:52
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mephis1987when installing a package03:52
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tiglionabbitchristianp: oh.  What you need to do to fix rosegarden is say "sudo modprobe snd-seq".  Lemme figure out where to put that so it runs at startup03:52
mephis1987i accidentaly press ctrl C03:52
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mephis1987now it stops03:52
burning_bronx>.>03:52
burning_bronx<.<03:53
MagicFabhello03:53
Seveasburning_bronx, that is exactly the dif.. between the official deb and the one I pointed to :)03:53
tRSSi am trying to follow the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510, but I would appreciate some help regarding a few things. Can some help me out with a few problems03:53
mephis1987how can i make it continues?03:53
mephis1987:((03:53
Seveasmephis1987, dpkg --configure --pending && apt-get -f install03:53
mephis1987hope it works03:53
MagicFabCan anybody explain what exactly is "upstream" when talking about bugtrackers ?03:53
burning_bronxSeveas, I have a folder where I collect the deb files I manually fixed >.>03:53
burning_bronx<.<03:53
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Ste1987Seveas can you tell me how to fix my terminal it keeps loading up then closing itself03:54
burning_bronxanyway newbies should use EasyUbuntu03:54
MagicFabParticularly here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam (Bug squashing)03:54
burning_bronxit has a skype install option03:54
pinkisntwellllI'm trying to share a folder with two ubuntu computers and it doesn't show up in the network, why?03:54
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mephis1987phew it works , thanks all03:54
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mephis1987EasyUbuntu03:54
christianptiglionabbit, i add it with modconf03:55
SeveasSte1987, dunno what you did03:55
mephis1987i never heard og it03:55
fasllyhey guys, i urgently need to connect to a samba share on another linux box in my network03:55
Seveasburning_bronx, no, easyubuntu is evil03:55
christianpnow i have no error on rosegarden startup, but i hear nothing :-(03:55
burning_bronxmephis1987, it's a tool that installs most of the common goodies >.>03:55
pinkisntwellllfaslly: me too lol03:55
Seveassuch crappy scripts have already triggered lots of reinstalls03:55
burning_bronxSeveas, is it?03:55
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fasllyit's on 192.168.1.303:55
burning_bronxI only took a look at the features03:55
tiglionabbitchristianp: that's right.  or modules.autoload03:55
burning_bronxI had most of them installed by hand03:55
mephis1987Seveas burning_bronx, no, easyubuntu is evil?03:55
fasllyi can ping it03:55
mephis1987is it right?03:55
ishitwhy is cdrdao needed for k3b03:55
psusishouldn't grep -e '.*[^/] ' match lines that do not end in a '/'?03:55
fasllybut i can't ping the computer name "arnie"!03:55
Seveasburning_bronx, in here we take a look at the results and lots of people needed to reinstall after using such scripts03:55
christianptiglionabbit, but i can't understand why i hear nothing03:56
pagan Rugglens wee roun ridlums reek briskly they say its a lovely brite lit moonlit nite tonite so come and shout hooray its easy to learn as your tongue will rise a blister rugglins we roun ridlums reek briskly its a twister. :P03:56
christianpother file, like mp3 are right03:56
Alex_BOHELLO!I've a problem with Thunderbird.I've received an e-mail and Thunderbird signs that there's an attachment with it, but I don't know how open it. Anybody can help me?03:56
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burning_bronxI've heard good thins bout it especially after it's merge with Autowhateveritwas03:56
burning_bronxhaven't tried it03:56
ishitwat is cdrdao03:56
psusiAlex_BO: click on the attachment name03:56
fasllyon the default gnome menu -> Places -> Network Servers03:56
holycow*hmmm*03:56
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fasllyfinds a "Windows Network"03:57
Seveasburning_bronx, btw: debs you fixed? Care to share the fixes?03:57
tiglionabbitchristianp: dunno..   not working for me either03:57
fasllyi double click on it and this machine and the one i want to get files off is are not present03:57
burning_bronxSeveas, most of them are dapper packages not yet upgraded to meet the new dependencies03:57
Alex_BOpsusi, I can't! When i open the message in a new windows I can see any attachments... it's strange because I've ever opened attachments before very well.03:57
tiglionabbitchristianp: your best bet is searching http://ubuntuforums.org for answers.  That's what I'm doing03:57
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christianpok, tiglionabbit thanks a lot03:58
psusiAlex_BO: don't open the message in a new window... just double click on the attachment03:58
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Alex_BOpsusi, if i double-click on the attachment, it opens the message in a new window03:58
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psusiAlex_BO: ohh, is the attachment itself a forwarded email?03:59
Alex_BOpsusi, how can i know it?is there a way?03:59
fasllyit's now asking me to login to a domain and i don't have one03:59
psusiAlex_BO: if you double click on it and it opens an email, then that's what it is03:59
faslly... on the screen mentioned earlier03:59
psusiAlex_BO: and usually the file name will end in .eml04:00
yatesyfaslly: enter a valid username and password04:00
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fasllyyatesy, the same as the standard login?04:00
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fasllylinux login...04:00
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yatesyfaslly: if a windows machine yes, if its a samba box then whatever your samba password for the user is04:01
Alex_BOpsusi, well...with other e-mails with attachment if i double-click on the clip, it opens the message in a new window. then i have to click on the section "attachment:" but this section in this e-mail there isn't04:01
mcphailAlex_BO: it sounds as if the text _is_ the attachment04:01
psusiAlex_BO: yea... the email it opens when you double click on it IS the attachment04:01
PupenoAnyone using demudi with ubuntu ?04:02
paganPupeno: What is demudi?04:02
Alex_BOpsusi, uhm...i can forward the message to my e-mail box and open it on the web04:02
psusiand if there are no attachments snown in the new window, it is because the attached email has no attachments itself04:02
Pupenopagan: http://demudi.agnula.org/04:02
jsz__how do I stop my computer responding to nmaps soit just times out or something and doesn't show any ports and services04:02
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jc-dentonhi all04:03
burning_bronxhow do I turn on the air conditionar without moving from the lap04:03
burning_bronx>.>04:03
psusiAlex_BO: open what on the web?04:03
burning_bronx<.<04:03
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phanterSeveas, Your skype gives me the same problem. It works once, but then (when trying to make the 2nd call) it gives an error: unable to open sound device04:03
jc-dentonwhere should i report a bug concerning breezy?04:03
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jc-dentonthere is launchpad and bugzilla..04:03
Seveasphanter, lsof /dev/dsp04:03
paganokay I got it thanks :D04:03
jc-dentonor can i send it via email?04:03
Pupenojsz__: you need to do some firewalling. Dependen on you level/indended lever of knowledge, you can use iptables by hand or another program that sets up your firewall (like guarddog).04:03
mcphailphanter: Seveas has put skype_dsp_hijacker in his repo. Use it.04:04
unfhasta luego04:04
[101] Pupeno, can you tell me the iptables string?04:04
mcphail(this is a well known bug)04:04
Alex_BOpsusi, i opened it on web but there isn't any attachment.thunderbird is crazy ;-)04:04
Pupeno[101] : strings ? you mean, commands ?04:04
burning_bronxsudo apt-get install real-life04:04
burning_bronxsudo apt-get install girlfriend04:04
HymnToLifelol04:05
[101] yes04:05
burning_bronxsudo mount /dev/girlfriend /mnt/bed04:05
burning_bronxsudo sh sex.sh04:05
dave:D04:05
psusiAlex_BO: from the sounds of it... it is you who is crazy... what do you think is attached to this message?  what kidn of file?04:05
yatesy"permission denied"04:05
burning_bronx>.>04:05
Pupeno[101] : not really, it depends on your system (software/hardware), there are good tutorials/howtos about that.04:05
burning_bronxshit!04:05
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jc-denton!04:05
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, jc-denton04:05
psusiAlex_BO: because from what you have described, the only thing attached to the message is another message04:05
HymnToLife/dev/girlfriend already mounted :p04:05
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psusijc-denton: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com04:06
burning_bronx>.>04:06
burning_bronx<.<04:06
jc-dentonso not launchpad04:06
jc-denton?04:06
Alex_BOpsusi, thank you! you are so nice.... ;-)   however...if there is an attachments, it can be ONLY a pic04:06
psusiAlex_BO: you have managed to open a picture attachment in this message when you forward it to your webmail account?04:06
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burning_bronxa whole day wasted on open sourceness04:07
Alex_BOpsusi, there weren't any attachments04:07
Pupenoworst thing: sudo mount /dev/girlfriend /mnt/bed.... IO error!04:07
burning_bronxI feel like a geek now04:07
burning_bronxa broken pipe error is worse if you ask me04:07
burning_bronx>.>04:07
psusiAlex_BO: ok... so if there aren't any attachments, that is why you can't open one ;)04:07
yatesyyou might have to recompile your kernel before she is detected ;P04:07
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Alex_BOpsusi, why thunderbird signs me an attachment?04:08
burning_bronxyes but if the girlfriend device is virgin type then you may get kernel panic04:08
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burning_bronx<.<04:08
holycowtar -pCcvvf foo.tar /media/usbdisk/  <-- this is obviously wrong, what is the tar command supposed to look like?  goal: preserver permissions + tar only the contents of the folder so that you don't extract /media/usbdisk but just the contents?04:08
psusiAlex_BO: what do yuo mean "signs" you an attachment?  it shows there is an attachment because there is one... it just happens to be another message04:08
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HymnToLifeyeah, you have to run mkfs on her first :p04:08
psusiAlex_BO: most likely because someone forwarded you the message which they got from somewhere else04:09
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psusiAlex_BO: most mail clients will simply attach the original message to a new one when you choose to forward04:09
yatesyHymnToLife: with a sutible b..... lock size ;P04:09
pappanhow do i get the ubuntu kernel source from my linux machine04:09
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yatesypappan: install the package04:09
Alex_BOpsusi, i mean a clip under the attachment column. it's impossible that this message was forwarded04:09
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HymnToLifepappan > sudo apt-get install linux-source-<kernel version>04:09
burning_bronxdamn korky linux humour04:09
kervelhello, i'm using kubuntu, and it seems there are twoo handlers for plug&play events that conflict: when i insert a cdrom, konqueror opens (/media/hdc), and i get a dialog (do you want to open). In addition to that, the cdrom is mounted automatically on a location that conflicts with konqueror (konq wants /media/hdc, it gets mounted on /media/cdrom)04:10
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kerveli guess thats a configuration problem04:10
psusiholycow: you mean you want to archive everything in /dir but not have /dir be part of the path in the archive so it isn't created when you extract it?04:10
pappannot apt-get is not there since i am running another distor of linux now04:10
holycowpsusi, exactly04:10
mcphailpappan: then you need another irc channel04:10
burning_bronxlol04:10
yatesymuppet04:10
psusiAlex_BO: if it shows a file name at the bottom and you double click on it and a new message window opens, then the message you are now looking at was sent to you as an attachment... most likely because it was forwarded04:10
pappanmcphail: which one ?04:11
HymnToLifepappan > then searh for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com04:11
yatesypappan: what are you running?04:11
psusiholycow: cd /dir then tar04:11
kervelalso, when i insert an usb stick, konqueror wants to mount it at /media/sda, but fails because it is already mounted on /media/256MB04:11
Alex_BOpsusi, no way.it DON'T show a file name on the bottom.it shows ONLY a clip pic on the main page04:11
pappanHymnToLife: ty got it04:12
HymnToLifeyou're welcome :)04:12
jendaI need urgent holp on networking: A friend is over with a lappy that has a Windows partition and a Linux partition (we don't know the password)... We need to copy a few things we need to copy from my Linux box to the lappy. Anyone have an idea?04:12
kerveloops, i see there is a separate channel for kubuntu. i'm going to try there ...04:12
HymnToLifejenda > you don't know which password ?04:12
jendaHymnToLife: the Linux one on the lappy04:13
psusiAlex_BO: I think that thunderbird shows the paperclip when you get a multipart message that contains both plain text and html04:13
psusiAlex_BO: maybe that's what you have04:13
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can-o-wormsdoes anyone know if there is a java 5.0 deb kicking around somewhere?04:13
burning_bronxcan-o-worms, I have one04:13
gnomefreak!javadebs04:13
ubotujavadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb04:13
HymnToLifejenda > thenboot the lap on windows, share a folder with rw access and copy the files on it from your ubuntu04:14
psusiAlex_BO: at any rate... if there are no attachments, ignore the paper clip04:14
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Alex_BOpsusi, yes...i didn't think on it...it can be.okay, thank you very much.you were very kind04:14
Alex_BOpsusi, bye!04:14
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holycowpsusi, so manually cd to it ... tar cannot be told to cd it from another file system then?04:14
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bobbydhi04:14
burning_bronxmy hands are cold04:14
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: where did you get it?04:14
burning_bronxI will put on some gloves04:14
bobbydis it possible to set up my server PC as a wireless access point if I install a wifi card in it?04:15
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burning_bronxcan-o-worms, I made it for my self anyway check the URL04:15
burning_bronx!javadebs04:15
ubotu[javadebs]  Sun Java debs (for i386), and IBM Java debs (for PPC) for breezy are at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy / To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type sudo dpkg -i package.deb04:15
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: thanks04:15
psusiholycow: I am not aware of a parameter to tar to ask it to cd first... there might be one, but it easy enough to just cd first04:15
alterimcan someone tell me why my firefox think 1.0.7 is the latest version?04:15
jendaHymnToLife: How do I do that from Ubuntu?04:15
alterimand tells me no updates are available when i check for updates?04:15
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holycowpsusi, good enough, a different way to think about the problem ... easiest too04:15
gnomefreakalterim, cause it is the latest version in ubuntu repositories04:15
yatesyalterim: you have to upgrade to 1.5 yourself04:15
burning_bronxhmmmm04:15
HymnToLifejenda > places > network servers04:15
HymnToLife!firefox1.504:15
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:15
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burning_bronxstill I see the javadebs on this site has update404:16
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burning_bronxand it's already @ update604:16
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jendaHymnToLife:places > network servers > Win network > 0 files04:16
alterimoh i see04:16
holycowpsusi, sorry one more question is tar -pcvvf foo.tar foo correct? is the -p in the right place?04:16
zosologistanyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?04:16
HymnToLifefunny...04:16
HymnToLifedo you have samba installed ?04:16
alterimi thought that when you clicked on check for updates in firefox that would actually check the mozilla site not the repositories ?04:16
psusiholycow: wait... I just checked the man page.. looks like -C tells tar to change directories ;)04:16
jendaHymnToLife: not yot..04:17
burning_bronxalterim, it checks the breezy repos04:17
alterimwhen i click check for updates in firefox xp, it doesn't go and check windowsupdate04:17
gnomefreakalterim, no its not an update its a seprate browser04:17
HymnToLifejenda > then it should work fine...04:17
alterimhmm, so it's a separate browser, doesn't give me much info, that04:17
burning_bronxwhen you install an Ubuntu all the apps on it are frozen version-wise untill the next ubuntu release04:17
burning_bronxthere are only04:17
burning_bronxA) security updates04:17
alterimoh, ok04:17
burning_bronxB) backports04:17
jendaHymnToLife: wait... should I install Samba?04:17
gnomefreakalterim, you cant update to it you have to install it04:17
holycowpsusi, i can't figure out how to use the -C switch ... your suggestion to keep it simple stupid seems to be working04:17
psusiholycow: btw... if you are running tar as root, -p is automatic.. and the order doesn't matter04:18
burning_bronxbackports my include newer software packages04:18
burning_bronx*may04:18
HymnToLifejenda > it should work well without it04:18
burning_bronxbut not firefox as I know of04:18
alterimso why doesn't 1.5 get put into the repos?04:18
jendaHymnToLife: it don't04:18
alterimlike most new versions do?04:18
gnomefreakthe backports dont include FF1.5 and wont for a while04:18
holycowpsusi, ah just checking, okay that makes sense.04:18
burning_bronxalterim, it's in the development branch repos04:18
Ngalterim: only security/important bug fixes go into a stable release04:18
holycowthanks for the tips, appreciate it04:18
HymnToLifeis the network working04:18
HymnToLifeI mean, can you ping the other comp04:18
jendaHymnToLife: how?04:19
psusiholycow: going by the man page... it shoul be as easy as adding -C foo to the command line04:19
alterimok cool04:19
HymnToLifejenda > ping <ip adress> in a terminal04:19
alterimcan someone tell me if there's any more windows switchers available for gnome, other than window list and window selector?04:19
burning_bronx>.>04:20
alterimi'd like a mac style window selector menu, that doesn't mind increasing it's icon size when i make a panel bigger...04:20
zosologistanyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?04:20
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villerhi04:20
burning_bronxalterim, get a mac? o_O;04:20
gnomefreaklol04:20
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alterimwell i have one04:20
burning_bronxand I don't cause I am poor04:21
burning_bronx:X04:21
alterimi'd not like to get another, but i WOULD like to customise my ubuntu04:21
zosologistanyone?04:21
zosologistanyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?04:21
villerhow to unhide .file in the terminal?04:21
zosologistwell not slow but starts and stops wierd04:21
psusiviller: ls -a04:21
HymnToLifeviller > Ctrl+H04:21
burning_bronxalterim, have you tried googlin'?04:21
alterimyeah04:22
alterimdidn't find much04:22
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alterimi don't really know what sort of thing it's called04:22
Stormx2Hi04:23
alterimi just hate these xp style window lists, the menu one would be ok but you increase a panel size to say, 48 pixels, and the piddly little icon stays the same04:23
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burning_bronxthat should be window manager related04:23
burning_bronx>.>04:24
burning_bronxNot sure tho04:24
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greenpenguin13how would i tell grub to re-detect the distros that should be on menu.lst?04:24
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psusigreenpenguin13: update-grub04:25
greenpenguin13thanks :)04:25
gnomefreakhe should beable to go to preff. and windows and change the style  from a given what 20 styles or something like that04:25
phaer_does anybody know, how i can install new ttf-fonts?04:25
mcphailalterim: have you tried gdesklets? They do hog a lot of resources, however.04:25
phaer_( i've just got the ttf-files04:25
gnomefreak!fonts04:26
phaer_( need them for openoffice and the flashplayer )04:26
uboturumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto04:26
greenpenguin13no i still dont get foresight instead of suse :/04:26
burning_bronxI made an eyecandy desktop with gdesklets loaded and it wasn't suckin' the resources that bad04:26
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gnomefreakhell i installed xpenguins and i cant find them :(04:26
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burning_bronxhave you tried typing locate xpenguins in the terminal?04:27
gnomefreakno why would i do that that would make sense :(04:27
gnomefreaklol04:27
Lukianafter typing 'sudo updatedb' :p04:27
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gnomefreakill brb gonna change to ubuntu04:27
Denstarkahh04:28
alterimno i haven't04:28
alterimso, how do i install this firefox then?04:29
Denstarki think ubuntu is not as good as windows04:29
greenpenguin13ahem04:29
alterimof course it's bloody not04:29
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burning_bronxit is not as good as windows unless you make it04:29
burning_bronxif you know what you're doing it's times better04:29
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alterimyeah04:30
NgDenstark: then make it better :)04:30
alterimlol04:30
Ngalterim: if you want to install 1.5 see the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page04:30
alterimableton live on linux... hmm04:30
alterimlots better04:30
alterimok, cheers Ng04:30
psusiof course it isn't... it doesn't crash half as much!04:30
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burning_bronxyep yep04:30
Denstarkburning_bronx, you dont know what your taslking about04:30
Ngthis is not the place to discuss which OS you prefer04:30
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Ngthat would be #ubuntu-offtopic04:31
psusithe crashing alone makes windows clearly better ;)04:31
alterimlol04:31
pinkisntwellwhat the heck? ubuntu put my home folder on the network as a share and now I can't remove it!04:31
Ngthis is for ubuntu questions04:31
burning_bronxDenstark, been using Windows 3.1, Windows 95/98, Windows ME/2000 and windows XP04:31
burning_bronxso yes04:31
burning_bronxI know what I am talking about04:31
Denstarkwindows meadia player rocks04:31
alterimuboutu, TELL Denstark why i really need to get outside a little more04:31
mcphailDNFTT04:31
burning_bronxVLC rox wmp04:31
alterimlol..04:31
burning_bronxTotem rox wmp04:31
burning_bronxeverything rox wmp04:31
burning_bronx>.>04:31
LukianTotem doesn't work04:31
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alterimwinamp rox Totem04:32
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Lukian"omg! video in use. exiting!"04:32
Denstarkie > firefox04:32
psusitry totem-xine04:32
burning_bronxXmms/BMP own winamp04:32
alterimlol04:32
burning_bronxLukian, it works if you know how to make it owrk04:32
burning_bronx*work04:32
Absolute0is there a way i can start the ubuntu installation with a floppy and then mount the iso from a differrent partition?04:32
alterimby the time you've set it up you've realised you haven't got any kind of life04:32
psusiwinamp, it really whips the lama's ass04:32
burning_bronxEverything > IE04:32
Lukianburning_bronx: any help with that issue then?04:32
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burning_bronxLukian,  as psusi said you should install totem-xine04:33
Denstarkie is good if you know how to use it bronx04:33
Lukianburning_bronx: that means that IE is greater than itself04:33
psusiAbsolute0: not officially... why would you want to?  just boot from the cd04:33
Absolute0by burned is broken04:33
burning_bronxLukian, then Everythin >= IE04:33
rain_can i read with ubuntu linux ntfs file sytem_04:33
Absolute0:/04:33
Absolute0*burner04:33
psusifloopies are obsolete... burn them, and let them rest in pieces04:33
HymnToLiferain_ > yes04:33
burning_bronxI haven't used floppies since win9804:33
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burning_bronx>.>04:33
burning_bronxand those were dark ages04:34
greenpenguin13anyone? i need to re-detect all the distros for grub04:34
burning_bronxXD04:34
Ngwho cares04:34
psusirain_: read? yes... write?  no04:34
Absolute0i dont think that information is helping me04:34
HymnToLifesure04:34
christianpcan anyone help me in findinf automatix? all the link bring to ubuntuforum, but i can't fiund where to download it!!!04:34
HymnToLifeI had win 98 FE, the CD wouldn't boot04:34
Lukianpsusi: burning_bronx: ty, installing now04:34
HymnToLifeyou had to boot from a floppy :p04:34
bobbydpsusi, not true04:34
burning_bronxLukian, I would suggest you install vlc better04:34
rain_does anyone know simekind of docs about it id try to manage myself04:34
burning_bronxit is pretty lightweight and has integrated support for almost any media format out there04:34
psusibobbyd: what is not true?04:34
Lukianburning_bronx: already have04:35
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burning_bronxlike it?04:35
HymnToLifeVLC rules04:35
bobbydpsusi, rain_ , http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/04:35
burning_bronxVLC owns the lama's ass >.>04:35
Lukiani use it under windows as my only* video player.04:35
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labandushi men04:35
pinkisntwellubuntu put my home folder on the network as a share and now I can't remove it!04:35
HymnToLifei use it under linux as my only media player as well :p04:35
labandusgood to back04:35
psusibobbyd: no thanks... I don't trust microsoft drivers under windows... trying to run them under linux is just insane ;)04:35
labandusgood to be back04:35
LukianHymnToLife: dvd's too?04:35
bobbydpsusi, works just fine04:35
HymnToLifeyep04:35
labandusI 'am looking for a file Sharing Programm04:36
rain_thanx04:36
burning_bronxlabandus, use Samba04:36
psusibobbyd: there is a reason why it isn't officially supported ;)04:36
labandusas gtk-ghutella04:36
bobbydpsusi, I used it to recover data from a physically broken Windows NTFS drive04:36
burning_bronxah04:36
burning_bronxyou mean P2P04:36
zosologistanyone help me with my wifi04:36
zosologist?04:36
burning_bronx~_~;04:36
zosologistanyone know why my wifi after setting up in the ubuntu network manageer would be slow?04:36
bobbydpsusi, of course, it's a licensing issue04:36
psusibobbyd: ntfsclone is good for that04:36
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labandusburning_bronx,  as gtk-gnutella04:36
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Absolute0how about this: i have a kubunut cd after doing apt-get install ubunutu-desktop will i get the same thing as a regular ubuntu installation would give me?04:36
labandusburning_bronx, g as edonkey for windows04:37
Nglabandus: gtk-gnutella is in ubuntu, or there's things like amule04:37
burning_bronxtried amule?04:37
psusibobbyd: not really... they don't distribute the driver.. you have to grab a copy from your windows install04:37
burning_bronxgtk-gnutella + amule = p2p ownage04:37
burning_bronx>.>04:37
labandus gtk-gnutella works very bad04:37
Lukiani'll give you a mule! *shakes fist*04:37
alterimlol @ the FirefoxNewVersion wiki04:37
alterimcompared to installing it on xp04:38
alterimhahaha04:38
bobbydpsusi, still, most distros wouldn't touch it simply because it uses propietory MS files04:38
DeepBlueGhostabsolute0: Not exactly, you'll still have KDE and the rest...04:38
alterimbetter ;)04:38
Absolute0whats wrong with limewire?04:38
labandusburning_bronx,   gtk-gnutella works very bad04:38
psusibobbyd: yup... which is why I don't either ;)04:38
pinkisntwellgtk is fine. you forgot azureus people04:38
labandusi'm looking for another Programm04:38
bobbydpsusi, ok, so it is a licensing thing :)04:38
Absolute0this room is wierd04:39
alterimis there a way i can install firefox 1.5 without using the command line04:39
burning_bronxlabandus, tried amule?04:39
alterim??04:39
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Ngalterim: no04:39
psusibobbyd: no... when you say it is a licensing thing, you are saying that you need to obtain a license to do it... you don't04:39
oxezalterim: cli > everything :o04:39
burning_bronxalterim, why are you so scared of the command line?04:39
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burning_bronxYou gotta love the cmd04:39
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burning_bronxcli owns the world04:39
burning_bronx>.>04:39
labandusburning_bronx, where can get I???04:39
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burning_bronxlabandus, synaptic search amule?04:39
burning_bronxor just sudo apt-get install amule04:39
bobbydpsusi, no, I'm saying that the distros don't like using closed source code under a proprietory licence, so they dont :)04:39
labandusburning_bronx, ok i'm trying04:40
alterimbecause i'd like to have a life away from the computer04:40
the_mr_bong_showcould some one help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail04:40
Ngalterim: then use the firefox that's already installed04:40
alterimi actually want to install a web browser04:40
alterimnot use a command line04:40
burning_bronxalterim do a sudo apt-get remove real-life04:40
burning_bronxur into linux now boy04:40
burning_bronxxD04:40
alterimi'm not into linux, i'm just trying an alternative operating system because i dislike the look and feel of xp04:40
DeepBlueGhostcommand lines are not to be feared...04:41
burning_bronxXP deprives users of freedom04:41
labandusburning_bronx, it's been downloaded04:41
psusibobbyd: then say it uses proprietary software, which nobody likes... not the same as a licencing issue... mp3 has licencing issues... but lame is open source04:41
burning_bronxlabandus, installeth?04:41
alterimXP enables me to run ableton live and various other audio apps, of which i use to produce my main income04:41
Ngalterim: ubuntu has a clear policy about releasing updates and that is that they only include security and important bug fixes - the new version will be included and easy to install in the next release, which is april04:41
labandusburning_bronx, i will start with the installation04:41
labandusburning_bronx, now04:41
burning_bronxlabandus, didn't you do sudo apt-get install totem-xine ?04:41
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alterimok, cool Ng, but is it possible for me to install 1.5, relatively easily?04:42
aeon17xalterim: then stay with XP.04:42
alterimof course i will stay with xp04:42
burning_bronx!firefox04:42
ubotufirefox is, like, totally, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.04:42
the_mr_bong_showNg could you help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail when you get time04:42
alterimi am doing this aswell as04:42
burning_bronx!firefox1.504:42
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:42
burning_bronxalterim, don't move04:42
burning_bronxdon't breathe too04:43
alterimi just looked at the aforementioned link, and it's ridiculously long winded04:43
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Ngalterim: unless anyone has backported it, there is either download the tarball from firefox's site and do it all yourself, or use the NewVersion wiki page. This may seem inconvenient, but overall I would say it's best to stick with the default Ubuntu versions and not care so much about always running the very latest version of things - as you said yourself, you want a life04:43
labandusburning_bronx, i did it ...04:43
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Lukianalterim: and for good reason, 1.5 is a pos :)04:43
HymnToLifeor get opera :p04:43
burning_bronxlabandus, does it work now?04:43
NgLukian: he didn't ask for opinions and this isn't the place to give them :p04:43
tRSSwhat might be causing this:  KRB5 error code 68 while getting initial credentials04:43
alterimsure, i'm just used to 1.5 on xp, the menus and stuff are a bit different04:44
tmjbanyone know where to find firebird2 amd64 its seems that does not exist in universe04:44
alterimthat's the main reason i wanted to upgrade really04:44
HymnToLifefirebird ?04:44
labandusburning_bronx, yeah my TOTEM xine is working very well04:44
burning_bronx;)04:44
burning_bronxcheers then friend04:44
HymnToLifeisn't it thunderfox ? :p04:44
tmjbHymnToLife: firebird sql04:44
HymnToLifeih damn, sorry :p04:44
labandusbut i've a got a little with this "amule"04:44
burning_bronxNg, there is ofcourse the detail that the default  firefox in breezy is a lot heavier resource-wise than the new 1.504:44
burning_bronxperformance in 1.5 is a lot better04:44
the_mr_bong_showwhats firebird04:45
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labandusi'm getting any connection to server04:45
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catalinuxcan someone tell in which repository I can find mysql-server-5.1?04:45
alterimok, well, i would still like to upgrade to 1.5, i guess the only way is to follow the wiki04:45
LukianHymnToLife: smart  man04:45
alterimit's just a shame i can't double click firefoxsetup.exe or something04:45
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alterimit should be that easy, you know04:45
burning_bronxthe firebird project was renamed to firefox04:45
burning_bronxit was phoenix in the beginning04:45
Lukianalterim: it will be, when it's final and stable.04:46
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burning_bronxalterim, linux is not windows04:46
Ngalterim: well it's not going to be any time soon, linux doesn't work like that04:46
Rawplayer!=FFS04:46
ubotuRawplayer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:46
Rawplayero dear04:46
alterimhmm i know.. shame04:46
Rawplayer;p04:46
tmjbbut no amd64 why ?http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/firebird204:46
Ngalterim: if you want to fix it, go right ahead. we are here to help people, not get ranted at ;)04:46
burning_bronxcatalinux, mysql 5 hasn't been done yet04:46
alterimand it's for this reason that windows will continue to dominate04:46
burning_bronxnot even in the dapper dev branch04:46
burning_bronxI mean it hasn't been repackaged for ubuntu04:46
alterimwell i thought a few thousand developers, that don't really leave their bedrooms that much would have had it sorted after a few years, you know04:47
burning_bronxyou may try compiling it from source if you are eager to try it04:47
catalinuxburning_bronx: dev.mysql.com :d04:47
Ngalterim: you still seem to be ranting ;)04:47
alterimyeah, i am, sorry04:47
Ngtake it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to04:47
Ngor use the energy to help fix it04:47
burning_bronxalterim, we've heard hundreds like you04:47
alterimi bet you have!04:47
burning_bronxit's just not the way linux works - figure it out04:47
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catalinuxburning_bronx: "MySQL 5.0 is Here!" <--- copy from the site04:47
burning_bronxyou have to learn new things04:47
burning_bronxcatalinux, where's that?04:48
mcphailalterim: try this - it might work...04:48
burning_bronxgive me a credible link04:48
catalinuxburning_bronx: dev.mysql.com04:48
Ngcatalinux: mysql5 is not in the ubuntu repositories yet04:48
burning_bronx...04:48
trappistalterim: a distro puts out a stable release.  new versions of software come out.  in the interest of stability, bugfixes and security updates get backported, but new versions are generally reserved for the next release.  most distros do this, and those that don't aren't generally considered stable.04:48
burning_bronxyes catalinux it is out04:48
burning_bronxbut it is not repackaged for ubuntu04:48
catalinuxburning_bronx: I used it on debian, but on ubuntu only the 4.1 version is available04:48
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burning_bronxI know04:48
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alterimyeah that's reasonable enough04:48
Ngcatalinux: you can rebuild the debian packages for ubuntu if you want04:48
burning_bronxyou won't see it in breezy unless they backport it04:49
burning_bronxyou can compile it on your own04:49
trappistthough I *am* surprised firefox-1.5 isn't in backports04:49
alterimbut you've got this really stable operating system that doesn't actually do anything apart from create hobbies04:49
psusitrappist: me too04:49
alterima bit of real life functionality might be cool04:49
catalinuxburning_bronx: yes, that's what I'll do04:49
burning_bronxtrappist, there are reasons for firefox 1.5 not being in the backports04:49
burning_bronxit has been stated by jdong I think04:49
seannyobis anyone running 64 bits?  i am considering switching to ubuntu and i have some questions, if anyone running 64 is interested in talking about it04:49
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psusiseannyob: I am04:50
catalinuxseannyob: me too04:50
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mcphailseannyob: yes04:50
Ngalterim: you can always ask for a refund ;)04:50
seannyobwow04:50
alterimi'm trying linux because xp is awful, and i don't like having any sort of networking on it04:50
HymnToLifelol ng04:50
burning_bronxalterim, linux is functional04:50
alterimi just want to use linux for usenet, and web04:50
Ngalterim: and you can do both of those already, thus it is functional04:50
burning_bronxactually the main goal of linux is functionality04:51
Ngeven if it is perhaps inconvenient in some places04:51
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seannyobokey dokey.  i have an athlon64 and i got gentoo 64 running, but it didn't seem ready for prime time to me as a desktop/multimedia system.  so i've been running 32 for a year.04:51
burning_bronxbut being functional and being easy are not always the same04:51
psusimy cousin who knows very little about computers just wanted to do email and web... his windows got all hosed up as usual so I installed ubuntu for him... he loved it04:51
mcphailseannyob: 64 bit is for masochists04:51
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psusino popups, no spyware... no need to fetch drivers for this and that04:51
burning_bronxI've been spreading Ubuntu CDs all around my school04:51
burning_bronxppl are liking it04:51
burning_bronx>.>04:51
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jbroomenice!  that's better than what usually gets spread around school. :)04:52
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tRSSplease please please someone help me with Kerberos, winbind and samba so that I authenticate with win2k3 servers at work04:52
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alterimok, so if i want to install ff1.5, the easiest way is the wiki.. i'll get to it04:52
burning_bronxjbroome, it is isn't it ;)04:52
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seannyobi guess the question is...are there 32 bit versions of applications like firefox w/flash, xine/mplayer w/ 32 bit codecs, etc in the 64 bit multiverse &or universe?04:52
psusiseannyob: as long as you stick purely to open source, 64 bit is fine... you do run into trouble though when you try to use proprietary stuff like w32 codecs, or crapromedia flash04:52
tRSSI keep getting this error when I do "kinit Administrator@DOMAIN.INTERNAL" :  KRB5 error code 68 while getting initial credentials04:52
Absolute0which kernel version comes with the latest ubuntu04:52
Absolute0?04:52
mcphailalterim: i think ff will work without "installing"04:52
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alterimreally?04:52
burning_bronxAbsolute0, it's 2.6.12-10 with the latest stable release04:53
alterimhow do i do that04:53
seannyobpsusi: yeah, that's the problem, isn't it.04:53
burning_bronxand the developmant branch is currently 2.6.15-904:53
ofer0burning_bronx, I think it's 2.6.12.9...04:53
Absolute0it has acpi support right?04:53
alterimand how do i choose the last person that spoke to me's name in xchat04:53
alterimit's tab in chatzilla04:53
psusiseannyob: you can install the 32 bit versiosn in a 32 bit chroot04:53
mcphailalterim: this might not work...04:53
burning_bronxofer0, you may be right haven't used breezy in a while04:53
nico551i need a hand with some networking in ubuntu, im a bit stuck, im trying to access a ms network through samba and i get this message when i want to browse network groups....(se further-->) ..NICO is my own pc, which is a bit wired since im not trying to connect to it, but the network groups. what is more wired is that my pass for my own pc doesnt work?! -- http://peecee.dk/?id=23418&noresize=yes (screenshot)04:53
the_mr_bong_showwhats the diff between firebird clasic and super04:53
mcphailalterim: download from the mozilla site04:53
barosl^winhow to turn on fontconfig debug mode?04:53
psusiseannyob: I never liked flash.. so I don't miss it04:54
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ofer0psusi, yeah, flash sucks!04:54
mcphailalterim: right click on the tar file and extract it04:54
labandushi men i'm looking for P2P Client in Ubuntu04:54
seannyobpsusi: is there a chroot howto on a wiki somwhere?  and yes, flash is annoying, ofer0, but I'm a webdeveloper and i really need access to it, so my hands are tied04:54
burning_bronxmcphail, even if he does that he still has to remove the old firefox and do his fair share of symlinking04:54
ofer0labandus, which network?04:55
mcphailburning_bronx: only if he wants to run it as "firefox" direct from the command line04:55
labandusevrething that in Ubuntu works04:55
psusiseannyob: either on the wiki or a howto thread on the forums....04:55
labandusofer0,  everything that in Ubuntu works04:55
nico551labandus, therer is a bittorrent preinstalled04:55
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ofer0labandus, yeah. but you have bittorrent, gnutella, etc...04:55
burning_bronxwho doesn't?04:55
burning_bronx:P04:55
alterimit's ok, i'll follow the wiki04:55
alterimdoesn't seem to bad04:55
burning_bronxit is not04:55
labandusofer0,  gnutella04:55
ofer0labandus, you can use LimeWire, it's pretty good04:56
mcphailburning_bronx: it would only be a single sim-link if he wanted to do that anyway04:56
burning_bronxalterim, you just have not to be afraid to use the command line and to learn some new stuff04:56
burning_bronxwhat about the flash and java stuff?04:56
psusithe gnome bittorrent client sucks... bit tornado is MUCH nicer... still light weight but gives far more information and is tweekable04:56
labandusi don't find it04:56
burning_bronxBitTornado > Azureus04:57
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HymnToLife* > Aureus04:57
labandusofer0,  i don't find it04:57
mcphailburning_bronx: would still work. just install when prompted on a page04:57
psusiAzureus is a pig of a program... no wonder... it's written in Java...04:57
seannyobpsusi: basically what i'm thinking of doing is buying a haupage and using my machine as a myth pvr as well as a desktop.04:57
burning_bronxyeah but wouldn't it be easier to symlink to existing plugins?04:57
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the_mr_bong_showcould some one help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail04:58
burning_bronxjava is evil04:58
burning_bronxbut I like java games04:58
burning_bronx:P04:58
mcphailburning_bronx: not if he wants to avoid the CLI at all costs04:58
burning_bronxwe're back where we started04:58
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burning_bronxlearn to love the cli :P04:58
HymnToLifeif he wants to avoid the CLI, he shouldn't be running ubuntu in the first place04:58
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Foodcomanmorning04:59
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psusiyou should read the book "In the beginning was the command line"  very nifty book04:59
the_mr_bong_showwhats CLI04:59
mcphailHymnToLife: not true. Ubuntu has a well rounded GUI.04:59
HymnToLifeCommand Line Interpreter04:59
burning_bronxwell you could run it - but you shouldn't be afraid of a few lines in a black and white console04:59
ofer0HymnToLife, I for Interface, isn't it ?04:59
the_mr_bong_showi thought it was like the fbi lol04:59
psusimcphail: yes... it does... but sometimes you have to go back to the command line04:59
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HymnToLifeor Interfece yes, it's the same04:59
mcphailpsusi: yes, but not all users have to.05:00
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burning_bronxUbuntu is user-friendly but not to the point where CLI would be obsolete05:00
HymnToLifeindeed05:00
the_mr_bong_showwho here loves windows05:00
the_mr_bong_showxp05:00
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mcphailburning_bronx: the CLI will never be obsolete. But not everyone has to use it.05:00
burning_bronxWindows ain't bad05:01
burning_bronxbut it restricts people05:01
burning_bronxmore or less05:01
HymnToLiferather more than less05:01
the_mr_bong_showi thought ubuntu was more restricting htan windows05:01
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burning_bronxthe_mr_bong_show,  it is not05:01
mcphailburning_bronx: for example, my father could use ubuntu to do everything he needs without knowing there was a CLI05:01
burning_bronxyou can customize it in every way that you want05:01
burning_bronxmcphail, I know :)05:02
AllanThe sudo command doesn't work. When I type "sudo ________", no matter what the blank is, it goes back to the prompt. Why is this hapenning and how do I fix it?05:02
epsthe_mr_bong_show out of the box it is clean, though ubuntu users quickly change that :)05:02
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gnomefreakdefine restricting? you can minipulate linux in anyway shape or form (for most part)05:02
DeepBlueGhostunfortunately I use Windows still.  Only for downloading from newsgroups and checking what I download.  Then reboot into linux to work with the files.05:02
burning_bronxeps, that's not entirely true - Breezy had a few flaws when released officially05:02
gnomefreakAllan, what are you typing05:02
burning_bronxyet Ubuntu is still a young distro05:02
Allansudo echo hi05:02
Allansudo synaptic05:03
epsDeepBlueGhost newsgroup access is done better under linux (the apps are better)05:03
NgDeepBlueGhost: have you looked at a program called "pan"? (available in synaptic) - very nice newsgroup proram05:03
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Ng+g05:03
Allansudo apt-get remove synaptic05:03
gnomefreakyou dont really need sudo for echo05:03
epsburning_bronx clean == not lots of choice and a non cluttered gui (aka kde)05:03
Allananything sudo doesn't work05:03
Allani know05:03
epsbreezy is still broken in my opinion05:03
gnomefreakare you trying to install something?05:03
epsffs no debian release would give you a gcc update and no kernel to go with it :P05:03
burning_bronxwell it's pretty stable compaed to the first few weeks of it's release05:03
DeepBlueGhostYeah?  Find me a GOOD binary reader.  Pan can do it, but not anything like what I want, and klibido doesn't cut it either.05:04
psusieps: what are you talking about?05:04
trappisteps: oh but they would.05:04
labandusofer0, ???05:04
mcphaileps: why do you need a gcc4 kernel?05:04
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DeepBlueGhostThen we have the parchive command line vs. quickpar.05:04
gnomefreakto just run something its normallly the program name thats it05:04
trappisteps: my big frustration with my last debian install is that the gcc version that built the distributed kernel wasn't even available05:04
the_mr_bong_showok im trying to install firebird 2 and mplayer and then it asks for a new password for the sysdba user what the hell05:04
burning_bronxthen again eps the Debian project is ages old and Ubuntu just started 200405:04
burning_bronxit has achieved much05:05
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burning_bronxand the next release would be a milestone performance-wise05:05
gnomefreaki think i read somewhere that ubuntu was fastest growing distro out05:05
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burning_bronxyeah maybe it is05:05
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frans-thWhere is hmb?05:05
burning_bronxbut most important is - it's building it's reputiation on it's own05:06
frans-thanyone can help?05:06
gnomefreakyes that it is05:06
Wonkeywhats better for me, server or default install. i want to make a router/webserver/dbserver out of mine with usb modem support05:06
the_mr_bong_showok im trying to install firebird 2 super and then it asks for a new password for the sysdba user what the hell05:06
nico551i need a hand with some networking in ubuntu, im a bit stuck, im trying to access a ms network through samba and i get this message when i want to browse network groups....(se further-->) ..NICO is my own pc, which is a bit wired since im not trying to connect to it, but the network groups. what is more wired is that my pass for my own pc doesnt work?! -- http://peecee.dk/?id=23418&noresize=yes (screenshot)05:06
burning_bronxWonkey, if you don't mind only running text based apps go on with the server install05:06
epstransgress that is my current frustration...I have gcc4 installed and the kernel is built on 3.405:06
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burning_bronxbut for the server install you have to love the CLI05:06
burning_bronxdo you love the CLI?05:06
mcphaileps: then install gcc3.405:07
epsand grr the frikken headers for 2.6.12-9 don't match!05:07
burning_bronxeps, that's one major flaw indeed but you can install 3.405:07
epsmcphail I did based on your advice ages ago05:07
trappisteps: you probably have 3.4 installed too.  it's not a big deal.  export CC or update your symlinks or use update-alternatives.05:07
the_mr_bong_showcould some one help me set up my email acounts on this Evolutuin mail05:07
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epshihi Lukian :)05:07
Lukianhi :p05:07
Wonkeyburning_bronx, thanks05:07
burning_bronxLukian, you're look is pretty sly05:07
gnomefreaksorry wont use evo.05:07
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epsI'm updating to -10 assuming ubuntu maintainers can at least get the header files right once in awhile?05:07
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viktorhi all :D05:07
jendaI have an external NTFS drive. I need to resize the partition from 40 to 30 gigs. Please help me.05:07
mcphaileps: moving a whole kernel, toolchain and userspace is a major undertaking05:08
Lukianeps sent me some strange voicemails earlier burning_bronx :P05:08
burning_bronxWonkey, you're only gonna use it as a server right?05:08
viktorwhat is the command to lock up so you can watch movies in ubuntu ?? i cant remember it :P05:08
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: i built and installed sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb but java -version still shows me java version "1.4.2-02"05:08
epsLukian yes, we were sitting outside your house - btw get rid of that prickle grass...that hurt...05:08
epsmcphail I'm sure it is05:08
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burning_bronxcan-o-worms, you have to change the java alternatives05:08
burning_bronxhave you done that?05:08
Lukianeps: that's natural, it doesn't go away :p05:08
psusijenda: fire up gparted05:09
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: no, how do i do that?05:09
mcphaileps: remember breezy was broken for _months_ in development because of this05:09
epsmeanwhile using ubuntu has made this install take a good 2 hours more than it should have (in part thanks to my slow broadband)05:09
burning_bronxsudo update-alternatives --config java05:09
epsmcphail guess it is that short release cycle ....05:09
burning_bronxthen pick the new java you installed05:09
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: thanks again05:09
burning_bronxyou're always welcome, friend05:09
jendapsusi: done... but it doesn't give the option to resize05:09
epsLukian your shell was running a bit slow before...you dling lots?05:10
burning_bronxshell?05:10
psusijenda: it doesn't?  Hrm.. you don't have it mounted do you?05:10
burning_bronxwho said shell?05:10
viktorsomeone knows what to do to watch movie in ubuntu (i got vlc)05:10
burning_bronxI want a shell05:10
epsI did...05:10
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epssure, you can have one on my box if you want05:10
burning_bronx>.>05:10
burning_bronxwhat does it have on it?05:10
jendapsusi: I did - I unmounted it for this purpose - no prob to mount it again05:10
Lukianeps: i am shaped, but i do download random packages sometimes05:10
epsburning_bronx what ever I want :|05:11
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epsLukian haha we are both shapped :P05:11
burning_bronx>.>05:11
Lukian(totem-xine)05:11
epsyou should throw some cat5 over to ctn's05:11
burning_bronxLukian, but at least you got your totem working right ;)05:11
psusijenda: I could have sworn that gparted could resize ntfs partitions... the option is just greyed out?05:11
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epsand I'll hook up wireless to you guys05:11
burning_bronxI am in Bulgaria05:11
epsso yes...ubuntu is silly05:11
burning_bronxthrow me wirless yeah05:11
burning_bronx>.>05:11
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Lukianburning_bronx: indeed, ta :p05:12
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: cool... that fixed it05:12
Lukianit seems to handle dvds better than vlc from what ive  seen so far too05:12
burning_bronxcan-o-worms as I said - you're always welcome05:12
psusijenda: well, you can do it from the command line using ntfsresize and fdisk...05:12
epstotem can deal with dvd now?05:12
kenswansonnewbie,,,just downloaded jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin, to my desktop, apt-get doesn't install it, what does please?05:12
burning_bronxTotem can deal with anything05:12
epssilly debian sid is still stuck on gnome 2.1005:12
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izmehhello05:13
epsI can see 2.12 in experimental though I'm thinking I wont grab it until it comes into unstable05:13
burning_bronxand sarge is even more slugish05:13
epssarge is stable...what do you expect?05:13
burning_bronxthat's what I like 'bout 'buntu05:13
the_mr_bong_showhow the hell do i set up email accounts using Evolution05:13
Lukiankennethlove: it installs itself05:13
jendapsusi: how exactly?05:13
epsstable == stable; only security updates05:13
Lukiankennethlove: makeit exectuable and run it (from terminal)05:13
epsetch is the current testing05:13
burning_bronxthe_mr_bong_show, grab thunderbird ;P05:13
can-o-wormskenswanson: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin05:13
DeepBlueGhostI couldn't even get sarge to install.  Hung halfway through the install...Ubuntu no problem....05:13
the_mr_bong_showwhats thunderbird05:14
kenswansonty canoworms, will try now05:14
epshow can one screw up a sarge install..05:14
epsthat's a worry05:14
Lukianthe_mr_bong_show: an email client05:14
burning_bronxSarge is too stable for me.05:14
DeepBlueGhostmr_bong:  Email program.  Good one from mozilla...05:14
can-o-wormskenswanson: i just ran that minutes ago, you seem to have an earlier version05:14
the_mr_bong_showisnt thunderbird firebird05:14
burning_bronxas I stated I like to break things05:15
epsburning_bronx even etch is to stable for me, hence why I'm on sid05:15
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psusijenda: start with man ntfsresize... basically though you run ntfsresize and tell it to shrink the filesystem... note exactly what it's new size is in sectors, then run fdisk on the drive, use the 'u' command to put it in sector mode05:15
epsthen use debian experimental :D05:15
burning_bronxI am on dapper - it is too stable too05:15
kenswansoncanoworms: command not found05:15
jendapsusi: yeah...greyed out05:15
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psusijenda: delete the partition, and recreate it with the new ending sector ( start sector + new length )05:15
can-o-wormskenswanson: that won't install it though, that will just build you a deb, you'll need to run sudo dpkg -i sun.....deb after it is done05:15
epsanyway I'm not going to get any more of this done05:15
epstonight05:15
can-o-wormskenswanson: sudo apt-get install fakeroot05:15
burning_bronxeps, what's your name on the forums?05:15
epsubuntu is busy dling05:15
epsburning_bronx I'm not on any forums05:16
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psusijenda: but the same starting sector05:16
kenswansondoing05:16
eps(in relation to ubuntu)05:16
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burning_bronxweird you're talking like a guy I saw there05:16
burning_bronx;)05:16
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jendapsusi: no go... I don't want to delet the partition :)05:16
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epsburning_bronx you mean as some one who likes ubuntu but likes flaming it because ubuntu users flame debian (both for no apparrent reason)?05:16
psusijenda: you delete it and recreate it to change the length05:16
psusijenda: after ntfsresize shrinks the filesystem contained in the partition05:17
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burning_bronxeps, he likes debian and uses ubuntu and flames ubuntu.05:17
burning_bronxdunno why05:17
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viktorplease i would really approciete it05:17
epsmmm well I recommend ubuntu to any one who asks (on the idea that any one who knows what they are talking about has already gone with debian or gentoo)05:17
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epsand a part from some stupid things...like mr shuttleworth liking kde (yuck)...I like ubuntu :)05:18
epsI just wouldn't use it on my desktop...05:18
jendapsusi: Ok, I gotta go. thanks - no more time to do this.05:18
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burning_bronxwell Ubuntu is faster in development than debian05:18
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burning_bronxand is better for the desktop05:18
kenswansoncanoworms it doesn't like "make -jpkg, says command not found, this is after I installed fakeroot05:18
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epsburning_bronx incorrect, it is on a faster release cycle05:18
Mabus06This channell is a large selling point for ubuntu, for me.05:18
epsthough yes it is a better desktoip05:18
bipolardoes anyone know if there is a way to kill a process that does not respond to 'kill -9' ?05:19
can-o-wormseps: i spent 2 years on both debian and gentoo, and i agree with you 100%... ubuntu is where it's at05:19
burning_bronxeps, I've been using the dapper development branch since it's start and most packages are out faster than debian's unstable/experimental05:19
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can-o-wormskenswanson: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin05:19
epsand suprisingly...with a lot of modification...a very IT-department-switching-from-windows-to-linux-servers friendly server os05:19
the_mr_bong_showhow do i install thunderbird05:19
coNPkenswanson, use "make-jpkg"05:19
epsburning_bronx yes but our packages at least work by the time they make it to stable05:19
trappistmake-jpkg is pretty great05:20
epsunlike this stupid situation with gcc05:20
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burning_bronxeps you can fix gcc easy enough05:20
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burning_bronxanyway05:20
trappisteps: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.405:20
epsburning_bronx I shouldn't need to fix it05:20
epsif my mother can't do it it shouldn't be in ubuntu05:20
epsdesktop motto05:20
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burning_bronxso your mother needs to compile stuff?05:20
epssssh!05:21
burning_bronxo_O;05:21
eps...she needs nvidia drivers :P05:21
trappisteps: you're just trolling now.  you have two different compilers, and it defaults to the newer, shinier one, and you're complaining?05:21
can-o-wormskenswanson: then when you are done you probably need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java05:21
epstrappist yes, there shouldn't be a lag between a new gcc and a kernel built under it in a stable distro05:21
trappisteps: tell her to apt-get install the nvidia drivers.05:21
Xperiencelol05:21
epseww apt-get05:21
Xperienceeps www.ubuntuguide.org05:21
burning_bronxand edit xorg.conf05:21
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can-o-wormseps: if you want to get your mother to do it then install windows05:22
burning_bronxapt-get owns you.05:22
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epsXperience has that been updated yet?05:22
trappisteps: why is that, exactly?  I don't know that the new compiler's been out long enough to trust kernels built with it.05:22
Xperiencei dunno05:22
Xperiencebut its useful05:22
can-o-wormsit is well known fact that mothers can only windows05:22
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psycosethe_mr_bong_show http://ubuntuguide.squarecows.com/doku.php05:22
XperienceWindows pwns moms everywhere05:22
the_mr_bong_showcan someone give a link to some great ubuntu themes or wallpapers please05:23
stuentrying to install ubuntu 5.1 on an acer travelmate 4650 series laptop, it hangs on the first install screen after the booting kernal message any thoughts?05:23
epstrappist it works like this, apply the default updates, try to compile a kernel module (vmware...some thing my father would try and install) and find out...oh wait! no kernels with it!05:23
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epsand would you look at that! folks wouldn't have a clue why it is broken05:23
can-o-wormseps: you are a real family dude05:23
epsontop of that once you get the right gcc the headers are broken!05:23
kenswansoncanoworms: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found05:23
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john2k!floppy05:23
ubotuI don't know, john2k05:23
bipolareps: the latest vmware includes ubuntu kernel modules.05:23
burning_bronxxD05:23
epscan-o-worms every one in my family runs ubuntu, except for myself05:23
Xperienceis it me or is there a new kernel every 2 weeks?05:24
epsbipolar sure, you going to pay for it for me? :P05:24
burning_bronxand my family thinks I am a freak using linux >.>05:24
Xperienceeps who pays for anything anymore?05:24
epsburning_bronx takes about three years to convert a windows family to linux :P05:24
can-o-wormskenswanson: you got me man... it just worked for me, ask burning_bronx05:24
bipolareps: you can compile a kernel module, your dad can pay for latest vmware.05:24
burning_bronxmy mother only plays games with linux05:24
epsXperience ... I cbf torrenting 5 when I have 4.5 legit then05:24
burning_bronxand the games she plays are wine emulated05:24
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john2kanyone know who to fix "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" when  trying to access a floppy drive?05:24
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Xperiencewhy pay for shit when you can get it for free?05:25
epsso you guys are making excuses about a problem that several people have said is a major bug, instead of thinking of ways to avoid it in future...so yes, an imature project05:25
can-o-wormseps: then ask everyone else in your family why you shouldn't compile a kernel with the latest gcc05:25
Xperiencei know if you could donwload cars off the net i would have a ferrari05:25
burning_bronxeps, we are not making excuses05:25
epsyes you are05:25
burning_bronxwe are giving you solutions till Dapper05:25
can-o-wormseps: the forums tell you all about it05:25
viktorplease can someone help we so i ccan watch movies on my comp i have installed vlc but i still cant watch movies :(:( i know there is a command i have to write cus of the legal stuff05:25
epsyou are throwing everything back as if it is my fault for trying to install some thing05:26
burning_bronxso you could stop whine05:26
burning_bronxno no no05:26
bipolarno one should have to compile a kernel module to get a working system. They should all be there.05:26
burning_bronxsimply giving you the solution to fix your problems till the problems are fixed >.>05:26
the_mr_bong_showcan someone give a link to some great ubuntu themes or wallpapers please05:26
bipolarif the module is not there, it is unsupported by ubuntu and the software that needs the module should handle it's creation.05:26
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Xperienceanyone use tovid?05:27
Xperiencei think its great05:27
epsburning_bronx none of you have done that, except for mcphail - and I'm already well on the way to having the problem fixed.  I am just trying to see if this project is even interested in thinking of ways to stop this happening05:27
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Stormx2Xperience: tovid?05:27
burning_bronxit is05:27
epsor maybe...just maybe...stealing the solution from debian or gentoo :D05:27
Xperiencewww.tovid.sourceforge.net05:27
Stormx2the_mr_bong_show: Try gnome-look.org05:27
can-o-wormseps: linux sucks in general , everything you try to do is an effort, takes time and reading... head scratching and nail biting.... get over it05:27
kenswansoncanoworms:  sudo update-alternatives --config java  worked, thank you very much05:27
Stonekeeperhi. I need to find out what specs my RAM is. Is there a H/W diagnostic tool for ubuntu?05:27
the_mr_bong_showty05:27
burning_bronxeps, you're being a troll >.>05:27
epscan-o-worms no, ubuntu is a 'desktop' distro, it's point is that linux is simple05:28
Stormx2the_mr_bong_show: That place is pretty much overrun with ubuntu wallpapers05:28
epsburning_bronx from my point of view it is several of you who are being the trolls05:28
epsand it is getting annoying05:28
psusiStonekeeper: what kind of specs?05:28
john2kI think linux is great05:28
burning_bronxeps concider you may be wrong and you may be the one being annoying ;)05:28
the_mr_bong_showthank you05:28
burning_bronxjust... think about it05:28
burning_bronx;)05:28
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Stormx2john2k: Don't we all? =D05:29
XperienceGUI's kick ass05:29
epsburning_bronx I did think about that, though I came to the conclusion that since we are both on different pages this conversation wasn't going to go anywhere, and it hasn't05:29
can-o-wormseps: don't you read slashdot? if you did you'd know linux isn't ready for the desktop05:29
john2kYou knoa what is head-scratching? Having to phone microsft to get a 40 digit reg number :-)05:29
Xperiencelol05:29
eps(but I have 30 minutes to kill while I fix up ubuntus mistake by updating the kernel)05:29
psusiStonekeeper: when you boot up, choose the option to run memtest86 from the grub boot menu... it will test the memory for errors, and give some information about it05:29
epsjohn2k gah had to do that for ten systems in the row the other day :|05:29
psusican-o-worms: is that trolling or are you attempting to be funny?05:29
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the_mr_bong_showshould i be worried about hackers virus spyware addware05:30
can-o-wormspsusi: take your pick05:30
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burning_bronxlove Microsoft - you pay them to ruin your system05:30
psusithe_mr_bong_show: no05:30
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john2knot fun... I always leave it till the last muinute and the windows stops working lol05:30
the_mr_bong_showok05:30
john2kand thats with something I PAID for05:31
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burning_bronxyeah05:31
epsburning_bronx I love my job, on the windows systems solutions are always hack fixes that hold until you do some thing else, while when working on unix systems (excluding AIX...what was IBM thinking...seriously) everything has a clear and simple (normally) solution that truely fixes the issue05:31
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epsnone of this reboot and pray crap05:31
st3feps what is your job?05:32
burning_bronxtruth.05:32
eps(which I will note worked very nicely on a black berry server the other day :P)05:32
Stormx2eps: Thats because linux is transparent in every way.05:32
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burning_bronxand now with Vista coming out soon05:32
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burning_bronxthe windows users will get a lot more graphical feel to what screws em up >.>05:32
epsnormally IT techsupport (tier 1 & 2 ...and 3 if we cbf waiting on the phone), though at the moment I'm acting IT manager (covering eight sites over two states - eg hell)05:32
gnomefreak  vista will be out 200705:32
InitMasswhy can't i use synaptic for upgrades sometimes but only apt-get upgrade?05:32
Stormx2Vista sucks >.<05:32
DRK13Hi kids and dogs05:33
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burning_bronxDRK13, it's geeks and dogs05:33
Stormx2For those without much ram, it will suck bit time05:33
burning_bronxmind your tongue05:33
Stormx2I hated XP. I use windows 98 and 2000 when I need to.05:33
st3fi think he's right05:33
DRK13lol  @ Vista.    2Gigs of ram to make it look like Linux05:33
Stormx2haha05:33
Stormx2Apparently it has a unix kernel05:33
john2klol05:33
burning_bronxStormx2, all demonstrations of Vista are on systems with AT LEAST 1gig05:33
burning_bronxof ram05:33
eps2k/xp is a godsend in the business world...if you can't use linux/mac at least there is a semi working os that every one will install05:34
Stormx2burning_bronx: I have 256 Im screwed05:34
Ngthis isn't a windows channel guys05:34
can-o-wormsStormx2: vista will be cool.... XP needs some new icons05:34
Xperienceanyone know a good lil prog to resize a partition so i can install win98?05:34
epslol can-o-worms05:34
burning_bronxStormx2, dun tell me you wanted to use vista05:34
l0s3rk1dXperience: i use partition magic in windows05:34
epscan-o-worms and any annoying semi transperant glass that makes it hard to read the window name :P05:34
burning_bronxI don't theme my windows05:34
DRK13I want to install WinMe!!!!!!!!!!!05:34
Stormx2burning_bronx: Not at all. if its anything like XP then no.05:34
burning_bronxit sucks even with pretty bars05:34
psusieps: yea... we threw a party at my former job the day we dropped support for 95... heh05:34
NgXperience: gparted should be fine for that05:34
Xperiencel0s3rk1d i dont ave windows installed05:34
Stormx2burning_bronx: I had a copy of Windows 105:34
john2kVista... a new ms o/s with new ms bugs :-)05:34
epspsusi ;P05:35
psusiXperience: gparted05:35
burning_bronxStormx2, I only started using windows 3.105:35
funkyHatHow can I make Qt apps look nicer in Gnome?05:35
burning_bronxI still think windows 3.1 is the most stable ;)05:35
epsburning_bronx then your memory is crap05:35
XperienceNg can i resize the hd with gparted while in linux or do i need to make a boot floppy or something05:35
burning_bronxfunkyHat, sudo apt-get install qutconfig05:35
epsI had to fix a 3.1 box the other day05:35
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Stormx2burning_bronx: Haha damn right. Thats cause it was just pretty DOS05:35
can-o-wormsburning_bronx: win95 is damn fast05:35
eps...and by fix I mean ...I broke it more05:35
the_mr_bong_showi need help deting up my email acounts on thunderbird05:35
DRK13Vista is funny, talk about a memory hog05:35
NgXperience: ah, yeah you probably don't want to do it while you're in linux05:35
burning_bronxfunkyHat, sudo apt-get install qutconfig05:35
the_mr_bong_showseti ngup*05:35
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epsdid you realise 3.1 had no driver support if you changed some thing on it!05:35
burning_bronxthen run qtconfig and edit the stuff05:35
psusiXperience: use the ubuntu livecd05:35
epskk bed time05:36
epslater all05:36
gnomefreaksetting up and what mail accounts are you trying to set up?05:36
Stormx2Linux is leaps and bounds better than anything microsoft can throw up.05:36
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DRK13bed? where do you live?05:36
Xperiencethe ubuntu cd will let me resize and create a fat32 partition?05:36
NgXperience: you could use the Live CD, or parted05:36
hansnetherlands05:36
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Stormx2hans: try #ubuntu-nl05:36
psusiXperience: yes...05:36
Wonkeywhat kernal should i install that already has ppp surport ?05:36
Xperiencekk05:37
Wonkey2.6 ?05:37
psusiWonkey: the one ubuntu installs for you05:37
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the_mr_bong_showi need help seting up my email acounts on thunderbird like what my incoming sever and out and what do i use pop or imap05:37
burning_bronxWonkey, just get the latest 2.6.* for your distro?05:37
can-o-wormsStormx2: better doesn't mean anything... it is a show of hands that counts... and look who is in the whitehouse05:37
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hansjoin ubuntu-nl05:37
funkyHatburning_bronx, what repository is qutconfig in?05:37
adrochas anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?05:37
Stormx2hans: /join #ubuntu-nl05:37
burning_bronxfunkyHat, it's qtconfig05:37
burning_bronxI misspelled it05:37
gnomefreakthe_mr_bong_show,  what accounts are they gmail,hotmail,bellsouth?05:37
burning_bronxit's in the universe I think05:37
funkyHatburning_bronx, that's not there either05:37
Wonkeyburning_bronx, i had errors installing the base system. now i have to pick my kernel and its not automatic05:37
the_mr_bong_showhotmail and yahoo05:37
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gnomefreakhotmail and yahoo i think are both pop05:38
Stormx2I think hotmail stopped their POP and SMTP services?05:38
burning_bronxfunkyHat, make sure you have universe enabled05:38
john2kyahoo.com isnt pop05:38
john2kyahoo.co.uk is05:38
the_mr_bong_showok then how do set up the sever stuff05:38
gnomefreakand you would have to check with thier sites to find out if its pop.hotmail.com or not for incomming and outgoing i think would be smtp.hotmail.com05:39
adrochas anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?05:39
burning_bronxthen do sudo apt-get install qtconfig05:39
funkyHatburning_bronx, yes I do, it's qt3-qtconfig ;)05:39
burning_bronxis it?05:39
Stormx2the_mr_bong_show: What mail client are you using? Evolution?05:39
burning_bronxo_O;05:39
burning_bronxhmmm05:39
the_mr_bong_showthunderbird05:39
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burning_bronxsorry for the misleading info then funkyHat05:39
Stormx2the_mr_bong_show: Never used it. Just check the site for reference on how to set it up, it will give you all the information05:39
burning_bronxthe command is qtconfig tho05:39
the_mr_bong_showok thank you05:40
Stormx2Im gonna go play gamecube. Cya later.05:40
funkyHatburning_bronx, what I was after though was a qt engine that would use my GTK+2 theme :), althoug ha Clearlooks theme for Qt would do fine :)05:40
funkyHatburning_bronx, don't worry about it :)05:40
adrochas anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?05:40
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burning_bronxfunkyHat, I thought you just wanted to make your Qt apps look better in gnome05:40
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^rob^what package provides sys/types.h?05:41
funkyHatburning_bronx, yes, better would be good, but 'like my gnome apps' would be perfect :)05:41
zenlunaticanyone know what "lg byte" stands for on laserjet 4000 n printers in ip settings?05:41
gnomefreakthe_mr_bong_show, the way to find out servers would be at thier site meaning server for hotmail should say it in hotmails help part in setting up outlook/evo it is same server for all the thunderbird type mail clients05:41
burning_bronxfunkyHat, if you know what font and style ur gnome theme is using you can make it from qtconfig05:41
gnomefreaki have my gmail on thunderbird thats it05:41
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burning_bronxjust experiment05:41
gnomefreakgmail=pop.gmail.com05:42
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burning_bronxI only have qtconfig cause of skype05:42
gnomefreak:)05:42
the_mr_bong_showok thank you05:42
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gnomefreakyw05:42
Lukiani wonder if i can get X-tetris to work under ubuntu05:42
burning_bronxLukian, why not?05:42
gnomefreakwhos familier with shell scripting?05:42
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tuxi cant login! it says cant write to home/tux/.ICE authority something....HELP!05:42
Lukianburning_bronx: 'cause it's a win32 app? :p05:42
coNP^rob^, libc6-dev05:43
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burning_bronxLukian, wine?05:43
burning_bronxI use it for small games like that05:43
Lukianhehe05:43
Lukianneat05:43
adrochas anyone installed nessus 3 on ubuntu?05:43
^rob^coNP: thanks05:43
Lukiani shall see :D05:43
burning_bronxLukian, there is a Tetris game in Ubuntu05:44
burning_bronxwhy do you need X-tetris?05:44
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Dr_Willisget 'tong' its tetris-pong !05:45
tuxi cant login! it says cant write to home/tux/.ICE authority something....HELP me plz!05:45
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Lukianburning_bronx: because it's X-rated?05:45
burning_bronxawwwww05:45
burning_bronxthat tetrix05:45
burning_bronxnow I remember05:45
burning_bronx:P05:45
Lukian;)05:45
Lukiani almost made 10,000 on it too05:46
Lukianno idea what happens then :o05:46
burning_bronxwell if you're comfortable with wine you can go on and get it05:46
Lukianyeah, downloading wine now05:46
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Dr_WillisX rated Tetris? :p05:46
burning`dinnerI have to go eat05:46
burning`dinnerbe back soon05:46
LukianDr_Willis: yeah, the pieces are people.05:46
burning`dinnerand you make sex poses05:47
Dr_WillisLukian, Cool!05:47
burning`dinnera sweet memory from my childhood05:47
burning`dinner:P05:47
burning`dinnerk05:47
tux:(05:47
burning`dinnerdinner now05:47
Dr_Willisgoogling now....05:47
burning`dinnertux, check if you have write permissions for ~/.ICE05:47
burning`dinnermaybe u did someting to totally mess it >.>05:47
burning`dinnerk05:47
tuxburning`dinner: i dont think i have...what next?05:48
burning`dinneraway now05:48
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burning`dinnerk just chmod ~/.ICE to 0777 and try loggin in again05:48
burning`dinnersheesh05:48
burning`dinnerI can't have my dinner05:48
burning`dinnerit's chicken stew05:48
burning`dinneraway now05:48
tuxwhat should be default permissions for home config files?05:48
Dr_WillisLukian,  the x-tetris i found downlioad was named 'winrar.zip' - thats scary05:48
tuxburning`dinner: happy dinner:)05:49
LukianDr_Willis: hehe, nice ;)05:49
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Dr_WillisLukian,  Oh wait - that was a browser/winrar issue.. it then changed the name right after it downklioaded. :P05:49
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burning`dinnertux you should just drwxr-xr-x it05:49
burning`dinnerthe home foldier05:49
Spacehi05:50
tuxburning`dinner: whats the number for that?05:50
burning`dinnerand give full read/right permissions to the god damn ICE05:50
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tuxburning`dinner: should i use -R?05:50
LukianDr_Willis:  ;)05:50
Lukianlet me know how it goes under wine (including sound) ? :D05:50
Lukian"ooooooooh!"05:50
Lukian"ahhhhhhhhhhhh!"05:50
Lukian"eeeeeeeooooo!"05:51
Lukian"neigh!"05:51
burning`dinnertux, just try doing this to the home foldier and try giving full read/right permissions to the /.ICE05:51
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burning`dinnercheck if you can login05:51
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burning`dinnerbbl05:51
kenswansonhave realplayer10gold.bin, will the apt-get install it?05:51
bluefoxicydapper froze.05:52
the_mr_bong_showi checked hotmail and thay dont have anything in there about how to set up outlook05:52
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Lukiankenswanson: make it executable and run it (from terminal) .05:52
kenswansonto make it executable to you just rename it? sorry, new05:52
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trappistkenswanson: chmod +x filename05:54
psycosekenswanson $ man chmod05:54
kenswansonty05:54
the_mr_bong_showAccess your e-mail account from Microsoft Outlook Express05:55
the_mr_bong_showTo protect our users from the increasing amount of unsolicited junk e-mail and spam sent from MSN Hotmail accounts through Outlook and Outlook Express, we have reluctantly had to restrict the new use of Outlook and Outlook Express to subscribers.05:55
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Di42lohello05:55
Di42lohow do i restart X here ?05:56
the_mr_bong_showhello05:56
Di42lo`killall X` doesnt work05:56
Dr_WillisLukian,  Ok - thats going in the wifes 'Start up Folder' on her XP box. :P05:56
Stormx2Ctrl + Alt + backspace05:56
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johnlthe_mr_bong_show, haha05:56
Di42loand how do i start it again ?05:56
LukianDr_Willis: hehehehhehe05:56
Lukianshe'll like it? ;)05:56
ivanjmghi people05:56
trappistDi42lo: it'll restart itself05:56
Di42lothx05:56
funkyHatDi42lo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, or quick and dirty: ctrl+alt+backspace05:56
Stormx2Di42lo: That restarts it05:56
Di42look05:56
Wonkeymy kernel had problems installing. what would the the problem?05:56
viktorsomeone got to know how to watch movies in ubuntu ??05:56
Stormx2Di42lo: Ctrl + Alt + backspace05:56
funkyHatDi42lo, both of those will restart, if you want to stop, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:56
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Wonkeyit said there was a log, but i don't nkow what editing program the 'ash' shell has on the install05:57
DenstarkIsn't it /etc/init.d/xdm? or does gdm have its own service in ubuntu?05:57
Dr_WillisLukian,  :P perhaps she will get some ideas.05:57
DenstarkAh, why yes it is gdm.. hrm.05:57
Denstark=)05:57
psusiDenstark: gdm is the desktop manager05:57
LukianDr_Willis: excellent ;)05:57
DenstarkYes, I know.05:57
funkyHatDenstark, yes, gdm or kdm in ubuntu ;)05:57
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DenstarkI used to use Gentoo. In xorg.conf you would have to define DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm" (For example)05:59
Denstarkand then start/stop xdm05:59
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DenstarkActually, I Still use Gentoo, only for server though06:00
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Eleafhi06:02
Eleafhi BenC06:02
Eleaflol06:02
freelovewhy is gnome so slow? some things take ages to open up!06:02
Eleaffreelove, what are you computer stats?06:02
the_mr_bong_showwhats a png06:02
BenChello06:02
funkyHatDenstark, Gentoo is nice for some things :P06:02
EleafIt's a image format06:02
Denstarkthe_mr_bong_show, its a image file format06:02
the_mr_bong_showok06:02
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the_mr_bong_showty06:02
DenstarkKind of like Gif, JPG, BMP, etc.06:02
deltrongentoo is good for crashing ;)06:02
freeloveEleaf: intel celeron, 256mb ram....pclinuxos is more snappier even in live mode.06:03
Eleafit has transperancy and is fairly good quality06:03
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Eleaffreelove, I see, how long is it taking for some things?06:03
Wonkeymy new install of ubuntu has had problems installing the kernel from a brand new download iso. what could be the problem ?06:03
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funkyHatdeltron, hahaha, never had trouble with that... apart from the time my mate pulled the plug on the recording box in the studio...06:04
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funkyHatWhile Ardour was running no less06:04
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burning`dinnerk back06:04
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freeloveEleaf: things like destop prefs, sometimes synaptic, mostly config things..06:05
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Eleaffreelove, hours?06:05
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freeloveEleaf: lol....no06:06
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deltronlast time I did an emerge on gentoo (was several years ago granted), it decided it would also like to remove /etc06:06
freeloveclose to 30secs.or more....dunno exactly...06:06
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burning_bronxdamn I really need to put on them gloves but then I won't be able to type06:07
DenstarkGet a space heater, BurgerMann06:07
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Denstarkerr06:07
deltronlol06:07
Denstarkburning_bronx*06:07
DenstarkDAMN U TAB COMPLETION.06:07
burning_bronxDenstark, I have06:07
Eleaffreelove, when you move your mouse around, does it sometimes skip?06:07
Denstark=)06:07
burning_bronxbut it's still cold06:07
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burning_bronxDenstark, try using 3 letters for tab complete06:07
Denstarkyeah, I'm going to have to.06:07
funkyHatdeltron, wow, ouch06:07
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DenstarkBy the way, the stuff I was typing elrier wasn't me. It was a friend who thought he would be funny.06:08
PrinterMorning all.06:08
DenstarkDon't want you to be mad at me forever.06:08
burning_bronxDenstark, did you type?06:08
DenstarkNo, he did06:08
DenstarkBut it came out on my name lawl.06:08
burning_bronxI meant what did you type?06:08
Stormx2Woop just installed FF 1.506:08
DenstarkOh.06:08
Stormx2and it worked this time06:08
Stormx2heh06:08
PrinterDoes anyone have gnomebaker running in dapper?  All I get is *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x081cefa8 ***06:09
DenstarkNothing ;-)06:09
trappistPrinter: dapper is unstable and unsupported06:09
burning_bronx>.>06:09
Denstarkwow06:09
Eleafdpper dapper dapper06:09
Denstarkmt.06:09
freeloveEleaf: when things get too slow.then only...06:09
freelovegnomebaker should be replaced with k3b:)06:10
gnomefreak!/bin/sh =bash right?06:10
ubotugnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:10
burning_bronxPrinter, I think gnomebaker is kinda broken06:10
trappistgnomefreak: not exactly06:10
Denstark/bin/bash = bash06:10
Denstark/bin/sh is a basic shell, I think06:10
gnomefreakim using gnome term is that good or bad?06:10
cmathesongnomefreak: yes you're right.  sh is just bash on most linux systems06:10
DenstarkGnome term is fine, why not?06:10
trappistsh is a symlink to bash and causes bash to run with backward compatibility with sh06:11
gnomefreakits  not working :(06:11
tonyyarussoHow can I pass a text file that is a list of servers to a program where servers are part of the argument?  It's netselect, the usage is "sudo netselect server1 server2 server3", and I want to make it do a lot of servers at once without retyping the whole list.06:11
gnomefreaki posted it in forum and one guy said it works for him :(06:11
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burning_bronxgnomefreak, it could be working for him06:11
burning_bronxbut it's generally broken ;P06:12
trappistgnomefreak: "not working" is a poor description of the problem06:12
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burning_bronxI get the invalid pointer error too06:12
burning_bronxmaybe I should debuf this >.>06:12
burning_bronx*debuf06:12
burning_bronx*debug06:12
tonyyarussoI'd also like to know why netselect-apt thinks I am behind a firewall that's blocking traceroute, when to my knowledge I don't currently have a firewall installed.06:12
burning_bronxdamn typing06:12
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Ngtonyyarusso: from memory this might do the trick: cat /path/to/some/list.txt | xargs sudo netselect06:13
HighHopesFolks, which is the package I must install to recompile kernel?06:13
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tonyyarussoNg: What's xargs do?06:13
the_mr_bong_showwhat folder is the defult for wallpapes06:13
cmathesontonyyarusso: you coulod do something like 'for i in `cat foo.txt` ; do sudo netselect $i ; done'\06:13
Ngtonyyarusso: it takes a vertical list and makes it horizontal - run "cat servers.txt | xargs echo" and you'll see06:14
cmathesonthe_mr_bong_show: there isn't one, you just import them w/ the gnome-background dialog06:14
tonyyarussocmatheson, I don't understand that one at all.06:14
[A] ndy80how can I change the default font for KDE applications in Ubuntu?06:14
gnomefreakhere is the link has everything http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=39566406:14
tonyyarussoNg: Ah.  That might do it.  Let's see...06:14
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cmathesontonyyarusso: it works. read the bash man page or something if you don't understand the syntax06:14
gnomefreakit worked using ./logins but the book says to use "logins" and thats it06:14
XenguyHi - if I'm buying a new box, does it matter whether it comes with ATI or Nvidia (i.e. is one better supported in Ubuntu than the other?) ?06:15
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tonyyarussoNg: That seems to be working I think.06:15
NgXenguy: at this stage nvidia is better supported06:16
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Denstark<3 Nvidia06:16
cmathesonXenguy: i've heard that ati support sucks (but that's just what i haer).  the lame binary drivers for nvidia have always worked very well for me though06:16
tonyyarussocmatheson, Ng's idea seems to be working, so I'll write down yours for another day when I understand more.06:16
DenstarkI don't buy ATI Cards cause their support for linux is the suxx..06:16
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XenguyNg cmatheson Denstark  thanks06:17
DenstarkNo problem06:17
cmathesontonyyarusso: yeah, xargs is probably a more elegant approach06:17
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DenstarkGet dual 7800GTX's06:17
Denstark=D06:17
Eleafwhat's bad with ati and ubuntu?06:17
Xenguy!ati06:17
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:17
tonyyarussoEleaf, I've heard of people having trouble with drivers, but apparently not always, since I have ATI and it's fine.06:18
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cmathesonEleaf: not necessarily a problem w/ ati and ubuntu as far as i know... it's more of like a problem w/ ati and linux in general (lousy driver support and what not)06:18
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the_mr_bong_showhow do i change the login screen06:18
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Eleafcmatheson, tonyyarusso ok, because I just got an ati card, and I'm hoping it will work alright.. = p06:19
daveHi, is there somthing like make.conf in ubuntu06:19
Ngno06:19
tonyyarussoNg or cmatheson: Any thoughts on the firewall thing?06:19
Ngtonyyarusso: no, but you could try traceroute -I06:20
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Armagguedeshello06:21
Denstarkhi06:21
tonyyarussoNg: That would do it.  Command not found.06:21
cmathesontonyyarusso: i'm not sure what firewall thing you're talking about06:21
trappistme neither06:22
Ngtonyyarusso: apt-get install traceroute :)06:22
cmathesontonyyarusso: sudo aptitude install traceroute06:22
tonyyarussocmatheson, It was mentioned at the top; another program was confused and suggested it might be a firewall issue.06:22
Ngtonyyarusso: or mtr is installed by default06:22
Armagguedesi've just dl'ed OOo2.0.1 in a tar-gz format, and used alien to turn those RPMs to DEBs.06:22
Armagguedeswhat do i need to do to install OOo now?06:22
tonyyarussoNg: mtr being?06:22
Ngmatt's traceroute06:23
tonyyarussoNg: Ah.06:23
LukianArmagguedes: dpkg -i filename06:24
gnomefreakok im thinking i got answer i was looking for i hope06:24
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burning_bronxI is back06:25
Lukianhey burning06:25
Lukiani'm off to bed when this dl is done06:25
Lukianthat's ~1min06:25
burning_bronxwhat you dlin?06:25
Lukianwine :p06:25
burning_bronxlol06:26
burning_bronxyou know how to operate wine?06:26
Lukiani'll figure it out :)06:26
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gnomefreakgood luck ;)06:26
burning_bronxgood boy ;) read the manual and it'll be fine ;)06:26
burning_bronxthat's how I learned :P06:26
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Lukianfuck the manual! :D06:26
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Lukiantrial and error ftw06:26
Lukian:D06:26
Lukianhehe06:26
burning_bronx>.>06:26
burning_bronxman > world06:27
Lukianworld would include man06:27
Lukianso man > man?06:27
khermans8===D ~`~``~~  ( . ) ( . )06:27
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burning_bronxhmm06:27
burning_bronxworld >= man06:27
burning_bronx>.>06:27
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burning_bronxoops06:28
Lukianni ni all06:28
burning_bronxI meant man >= world06:28
burning_bronxmy bad06:28
burning_bronxnight06:28
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thesaltydogwhile upgradibg to dapper, it tries to remove xmkmf, together with a lot of stuff..06:28
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burning_bronxthesaltydog, it also wants to remove hotplug >.>06:29
burning_bronxcause it's OBSOLETE06:29
thesaltydogalso06:29
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lnostdalhello, when apt-get is about to upgrade stuff, is it possible to get more info about changes between versions of packages?06:29
thesaltydogbut if I go ahead, I will get a lot of unment dependencies..06:29
Denstarkhi06:30
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burning_bronxthesaltydog, you're doing dist-upgrade right?06:30
thesaltydogyep06:30
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burning_bronxthere should be no problem06:30
thesaltydognow I'm stuck.06:30
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NastydogHi06:30
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thaytang'day06:30
Nastydogi need to configurate my internet06:31
Nastydoghow i do06:31
ninjaHaving slight difficulties here.. I burned ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso to a disc with "burn image" in nero, but it's not bootable. What am I doing wrong?06:31
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burning_bronxthesaltydog, dapper doesn't use xmkmf currently >.>06:31
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lnostdalNastydog, in the menu  System -> Administration -> Networking06:31
burning_bronxcause it's using Xorg 706:31
thesaltydognow I'm upgrading. I will tell you were it stops..06:31
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burning_bronxI doubt there would be any problems06:32
burning_bronx:)06:32
mp3guyis there a way to get video thumbnail previews in nautilus?06:32
Nastydogand06:32
burning_bronxmp3guy, you get a frame from the video as thumbnail06:32
freelovei have a nice objective question to ask.........can i ask?? plz?06:32
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burning_bronxisn't that what you need?06:32
mp3guyburning_bronx, how do i do that?06:32
k0pI have a webcam that use the spca5xx drivers, btw system freeze when cam is activate. Do you know if exists solution in the breezy?06:32
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lnostdalmp3guy, Edit -> Preferences .. then check under the tab Preview06:33
burning_bronxmp3guy, it's in by default o_O;06:33
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asdcanyone know what to do when you get a grub error 17 after doing a fresh install of ubuntu?06:33
burning_bronxtam06:33
ofer0asdc, reinstall grub?06:33
burning_bronxwrong window06:33
freelovewhats the best distro after ubuntu (and all its derivatives)??06:33
asdchow would i do that?06:34
thesaltydogburning_bronx, errors were encountered while processing locales_2.3.7-1_all.deb and all the language-pack-gnome06:34
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greenpenguin13distrowatch06:34
burning_bronxfreelove, depends on what you want as a distro06:34
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ninja2Having slight difficulties here.. I burned ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso to a disc with "burn image" in nero, but it's not bootable. What am I doing wrong?06:34
ofer0freelove, there is no such thing as "best distro". there is the most suitable distro, and this is all about your personal choices06:34
burning_bronxthesaltydog >.>06:34
burning_bronxjust finish the upgrade06:34
thesaltydogit stops there..06:34
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burning_bronxit ends or it breaks?06:34
thesaltydogbreaks.06:35
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burning_bronxhmmm that shouldn't be the case o_O;06:35
freeloveofer0: hmmm....well said:)06:35
ofer0ninja2, check md5sum for the disc06:35
ofer0ninja2, and the iso image06:35
asdcso how would i reinstall grub without going through the entire ubuntu installation again?06:35
thesaltydogif I do apt-get -f install, it will re-install xmkmf...06:35
Dr_Willisninja2,  also check the disk with windows.. see what files are on it.06:35
ofer0asdc, you have a livecd of something ?06:36
ofer0thesaltydog, no, it won't. why would it?06:36
Lemon-asdc: u mean u cant go into ubuntu right?06:36
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thesaltydogdon't know. They are 30 minutes that I am cycling thru this.06:36
asdci have an iso burned from the website if that answers your question06:36
burning_bronxthesaltydog, the version of Xorg that dapper uses doesn't need xmkmf06:37
Lemon-asdc: no why do u want to reinstall grub?06:37
burning_bronxhe gets an error 1706:37
ofer0Lemon-, he got grub error 17 on his first ubuntu boot06:37
thesaltydogburning_bronx, ok. I believe you. But anyway I'm stuck. No breezy and no dapper.06:37
asdcim getting "error 17" when the installation reboots06:37
Lemon-huh?06:37
Lemon-what is erro17..06:37
Lemon-hmm06:37
asdcwhen grub tries to boot06:37
gnomefreaki always reinstalled ubuntu when i got that error06:37
burning_bronxthesaltydog, have you backed up your files?06:38
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  harsh :p06:38
asdci installed 3 times06:38
Lemon-did usearch on06:38
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Lemon-google?06:38
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gnomefreakasdc,  what other distros are on that pc?06:38
thesaltydogMy files are in the /home partition. :-)06:38
gnomefreak"os's"06:38
Lemon-asdc, try search on google06:38
asdcnon i reformatted the entire hard drive06:38
asdcnone*06:38
LiGhTeRhi all can someone help me with the command that makes it possible to watch movies in ubuntu06:38
gnomefreakasdc,  are you planning on putting another one one?06:38
gnomefreakon*06:38
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  xine, mplayer, vlc, and you wiill need to install the W32Codecs most likely06:39
Lemon-asdc, 17 : Cannot mount selected partition06:39
asdcshould i dual boot it with windows?06:39
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  or are you refrering to DVD movies. :P06:39
Lemon-is that the error u are getting?06:39
LiGhTeRno06:39
asdcyeah lemon06:39
LiGhTeRi want to install w32codec06:39
gnomefreakyes error 1706:39
Lemon-asdc, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=12080206:40
Lemon-try reading that06:40
asdcok06:40
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Stormx2is KDE GTK2.0?06:40
funkyHatasdc, when you were installing ubuntu, did you move the 'boot flag' from your windows partition to one of your linux partitions?06:40
Stormx2or GTK2 i should say06:40
funkyHatasdc, when you were at the partitioner stage06:40
EleafStormx2, KDE is QT3/406:40
cmathesonStormx2: no, it's qt06:40
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Lemon-Stormx2, GTK for gnome06:41
Eleafqt's fun06:41
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Lemon-Stormx2, QT for KDE06:41
ga^vubeginners question...again06:41
ofer0Stormx2, but of course, you can run GTK applications on KDE if you have the library installed.06:41
burning_bronxI dislike Qt06:41
ga^vui've installed dchub...Where is it??06:41
ofer0Stormx2, ( and qt apps on gnome, of course... )06:41
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burning_bronxand you can use Qt on Gnome if you have libqt06:41
Stormx2Right06:41
Lemon-ga^vu, type whereis dchub06:41
Lemon-on the console06:41
Lemon-:P06:41
Stormx2Cause Im sick of the chunky look of gnome. 1280x960 GNOME feels like 600x600 windows06:42
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ga^vuok..thanks...told ya i was a beginner :P06:42
gnomefreakga^vu,  try typing dchub at console to run it06:42
ofer0Stormx2, use blackbox. it's much cleaner06:42
Dr_Willischunky ?06:42
virkubuntu = kde ( qt3/4)06:42
Lemon-Stormx2, then try KDE06:42
burning_bronxbah06:42
Stormx2Lemon-: i am06:42
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virubuntu = gnome ( gtk )06:42
Stormx2ofer0: Blackbox, hmm, ok06:42
Lemon-Stormx2, or maybe Enlightenment06:42
burning_bronxthe boxes are hard to customize06:42
jc-dentontry 1706:42
Mabus06What's a good file destroyer for ubuntu?06:42
jc-dentonit's leet06:42
jc-dentons/17/e1706:43
burning_bronxas they don't come with a desktop environment06:43
Lemon-its just for cool looking06:43
Lemon-:P06:43
Dr_Willisjc-denton,  and often runs for more then 10 min at a time now befor crashing!06:43
gnomefreakMabus06,  hire me im good at screwing up files :)06:43
viri personaly like gnome its good to customize06:43
jc-dentonhehe06:43
Lemon-Mabus06, what do u mean?06:43
sunshine82hi i need help with ogg2mp3 i cant get it to work i dont know what im doin wrong any one that know abuout ogg2 mp3 please hjej[06:43
ofer0Stormx2, You should try some other WM and SM... Try fluxbox, XFCE, enlightenment, blackbox... see what's around you06:43
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jc-dentonDr_Willis: i just wanted to participate at the flamewar06:43
Dr_Willis'wmii' :P06:43
Mabus06Lemon-, deleting a file isn't really deleting it.06:43
ofer0sunshine82, hey :)06:43
ofer0sunshine82, you want to ogg -> mp3 ?06:43
Dr_Willisjc-denton,  'matchbox' !06:43
virStormx2,  you could try xbuntu06:44
Lemon-Mabus06, oh06:44
Lemon-Mabus06, :P06:44
Mabus06It's still there. For instance, when I messed up my mp3 player, I could hear parts of songs from a long time ago.06:44
Lemon-vir, what is xbuntu?06:44
burning_bronxStormx2, Xfce (xubuntu) is nice - it comes with the xfwm406:44
ofer0Mabus06, everybody uses "shred".06:44
Stormx2ofer0: Tried fluxbox >.<06:44
virxubuntu is xfce06:44
Stormx2burning_bronx: XFCE is nice but feels like gnome06:44
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Lemon-vir, is there such thing? :P06:44
jc-dentonfluxbox06:44
burning_bronxStormx2, you want someting not even close to gnome?06:44
burning_bronxfluxbox.06:44
ofer0Mabus06, man shred for more details..06:45
Dr_Willisthe anti-gnome!06:45
burning_bronxor openbox/e1706:45
Lemon-Stormx2, use "X" ^-^06:45
Lemon-=3=3=306:45
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blankygnome is cool, but it gets boring on ubuntu since it's all gnome06:45
burning_bronxX >= all06:45
blankylol yeah06:45
Stormx2burning_bronx: Tried fluxbox >.< I don't understand it really though...06:45
vire16 is better than e17 atm06:45
Dr_WillisDull and  useable! bah!06:45
blankyi liked how enlightenment was used in cs.edu.slax06:45
sunshine82offer0 yes i was told to download ogg2mp3 off sourceforge which i did06:45
ofer0Stormx2, All the light WMs and SMs needs a h-u-g-e configuration before you can use it06:45
burning_bronxStormx2, thats maybe cause it doesn't have a desktop environement06:46
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sunshine82ofer0 do u know a better way06:46
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Stormx2burning_bronx: I figured that much.06:46
Dr_WillisHuge? nah.. just need to run xterms06:46
burning_bronxu see now a desktop environement is something like gnome, and a wm is something like metacity06:46
Dr_Willisand learn the shell like a real man06:46
ofer0sunshine82, give me 2 minutes to think about it06:46
burning_bronxu can change just the wm for gnome06:46
sunshine82ofer0 to change ogg to mp306:46
blankyi wished i could get my englithenment to look like this slax' cs.edu.slax06:46
burning_bronxI use xfwm4 on gnome06:46
blankyhttp://charybde.homeunix.org/~schmitz/slax-csedu/06:46
virdesktop manager = xfce, gnome and kde06:46
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Stormx2burning_bronx: Ah cool. What advantage does that bring?06:46
Lemon-and Enlightenment06:47
burning_bronxfaster window management?06:47
burning_bronxdiffernet window styles?06:47
burning_bronxyes to both06:47
virwindow manager = window maker, e16, e17, meta ciity, fluxbox... openbox06:47
gnomefreakwhy is this so freaking hard :(06:47
freelovethe one thing i hate in gnome are incomplete iconsets!06:47
burning_bronxgnomefreak, what's hard?06:47
Dr_Willisblanky,  that shouldent be too hard.06:47
blankyreally?06:48
burning_bronxI use the OSX iconset - it owns.06:48
lnostdalthe freakin gnome06:48
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virgnomefreak,  whats hard?06:48
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Stormx2burning_bronx: OK. I have xfce and I have gnome, how do I make the xfce wm my wm in gnome?06:48
blankywho likes kde over gnome here06:48
ofer0sunshine82, okay. you here?06:48
Dr_Willisi tend to mix and match06:48
burning_bronxfirst of all the xfce wm is xfwm406:48
lnostdali haven't used kde in years .. but i like using k3b, which is an kde-app. ..06:48
gnomefreakim still trying to get that script to run just by typing logins in terminal but i have to have a "." in the path and hell i dont know how to do that and he asked me if i had a file in home/dir. named .bash_profile and i dont :(06:49
burning_bronxyou first need to install it06:49
Stormx2I just want a space I can work in really... gnome just hogs it all up with GUI06:49
ofer0sunshine82, you do it like this: "oggdec file.ogg newfile.wav; lame newfile.wav"06:49
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Lemon-lnostdal, i hope gnome develpers make some apps like K3b and amarok in gnome..06:49
Dr_WillisStormx2,  then changeing the gnome window manager wont change that.06:49
burning_bronxStormx2, then changing the wm wouldn't change much06:49
tiglionabbitStormx2: why don't you remove the panels then?06:49
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Lemon-lnostdal, i install KDE libs for those two apps06:49
burning_bronxit would improve performance06:49
burning_bronxnevertheless06:49
Lemon-lnostdal, wasting of spaces.. :P06:49
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mifritscherhi06:50
Dr_WillisStormx2,  try somthning hard core like 'wmii' :P or "ratposion" or learn the various XYZbox's06:50
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Stormx2Hmm06:50
mifritscherwhy does ubuntu create the /dev-tree in a tmfpfs?06:50
Dr_Willisor remove the gnome panels you dont use. :P06:50
lnostdalLemon-, sure .. they should cooperate more .. and use more common libraries for IPC and other stuff too .. that'b be great :)06:50
burning_bronxStormx2, what "exactly" do you want?06:50
lnostdalLemon-, i mean KDE and Gnome06:50
Stormx2burning_bronx: I want my screen to look like a usuable workable programming space but not ugly >.<06:50
lnostdalLemon-, that way it wouldn't matter as much i think06:50
LiGhTeRDr_Willis no im not refering to DVD :P =) i mean that when i write : sudo apt-get install w32codecs  it says that it can't find the package06:50
LiGhTeRand how do i do now =)06:51
Lemon-lnostdal, yeah. true.. :P06:51
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  type !w32codecs and see what the bot says06:51
virStormx2, check out e1706:51
burning_bronxStormx2, tell me what is preventing your desktop from being like that?06:51
LiGhTeRk06:51
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  you need to add the right repos to get it06:51
burning_bronxin your opinion06:51
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Stormx2burning_bronx: GNOME is chunky06:51
funkyHatlnostdal, and they should both scrap their sound daemon06:51
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=== Dr_Willis still has no idea what 'chunky' means.
Mabus06thanks, ofer006:51
burning_bronxchunky as in?06:51
funkyHatcos esd and arts both suck sack06:51
Stormx2Like06:51
gnomefreakheavy06:51
gnomefreaknot lightweight06:52
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  also vague terms. :P06:52
gnomefreakim thinking thats what Stormx2  meant06:52
LiGhTeRevent not found06:52
Dr_Willislol06:52
LiGhTeRDr_Willis Event not found06:52
Lemon-:P06:52
LiGhTeRis all it says06:52
Stormx2>.< kinda differcult. But 1280x960 gnome feels like 800x600 windows, if you see what I mean (I bet you dont >.<)06:52
freelovewow in both channels we are having desktop manager wars:D06:52
gnomefreaklightweight try fluxbox or blackbox06:52
ofer0Mabus06, you are very welcome!06:52
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freelovekde is better ;D06:52
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  try !w32codec   - or heck.. just go to the ubuntu wiki and search for w32codec :P06:52
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Lemon-Stormx2, because of two panels u mean?06:52
gnomefreakthere are so many to choose from06:52
burning_bronxfreelove, kde is bloated06:53
burning_bronxand heavy06:53
Lemon-ubunto06:53
virkde crashes.... like windows06:53
tiglionabbitStormx2: you don't make any sense.  If you don't like it, change it.  (btw, if you wanna see "windows", try icewm!  =P)06:53
LiGhTeRi done that but it still won't work :S06:53
blankyvir, YEAH!06:53
ofer0LiGhTeR, wget http://ilunix.org/myfiles/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb06:53
Lemon-ubotu, tell LiGhTeR about w32codec06:53
blankyvir, at least on ubuntu, that's the only place i've witnessed it in06:53
virStormx2,  http://sneakymustard.com/images/e17-dfly.png have a look at that06:53
Stormx2Lemon-: Although I do have two panels, I auto-hide one, and the other is only 24 pixels high06:53
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freeloveburning_bronx: for many its rock-solid06:53
Dr_Willisso 2 panels are taking up like 3% of the screen...06:53
virStormx2,  thats e1706:53
Lemon-Stormx2, i use gnome in resolution 1024X76806:53
Lemon-Stormx2, and i do work fine06:54
ofer0LiGhTeR, after you download it, "sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" will get it installed. enjoy06:54
LiGhTeRthank you :D06:54
Stormx2vir: it looks pretty nice actually. i'll look into that.06:54
burning_bronxfreelove, being solid doesn't make it less bloated & heavy06:54
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ofer0LiGhTeR, you're welcome06:54
virStormx2,  its only still getting worked on but it is usable06:54
Lemon--list06:54
Dr_WillisSolid = my 1968 Dodge.06:54
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Lemon-ubotu, list06:54
ubotusomebody said list was you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:54
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odatquick question06:55
Lemon-ubotu, version06:55
ubotuI haven't a clue, Lemon-06:55
odathow do i check what kind of graphics card i have?06:55
Lemon-ubotu, source06:55
ubotuit has been said that source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.06:55
virStormx2,  if you check the forums you'll find a how to... installl it06:55
trappistodat: lspci06:55
Lemon-ubotu, supybot06:55
ubotuLemon-: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:55
LiGhTeRbut will it fix that thing about ubuntu is locked for some legal stuff :S06:55
Lemon-ubotu, -help06:55
ubotuLemon-: Are you smoking crack?06:55
trappistLemon-: feel free to play with the bot in pmsg06:55
gnomefreakha ha i do have a bash_profile  file :)06:55
Lemon-trappist, what is ubotu's version ?06:55
trappistI have no idea06:56
freeloveburning_bronx: but u will agree that its more powerful & feature-filled..than gnome:)06:56
=== vir hopes they get rid of the colour sceme for ubuntu
Dr_WillisI like brown! :p06:56
blankythere should b a program/script that automates the process of installing a tar.gz06:56
freelovei hope too....06:56
Lemon-I hate the ubuntu theme06:56
Lemon-it sucks06:56
Lemon-:P06:56
freeloveblanky: in kde u'll find such an app:)06:56
blankyextracts it to a temporary directory, runs configure, make, amke install06:56
Dr_Willisblanky,   and automate makeing the user read the install docs also!06:56
trappistblanky: not all tarballs install the same way06:56
Lemon-and i found out that dapper has the same theme!!!06:57
blankyDr_Willis, lol06:57
Lemon-DAMN!06:57
Lemon-:P06:57
blankytrappist, oh, yeah i guess06:57
viri prefer white i like it to be clean and user friendly more like mac os06:57
Dr_Willisand automate the user ranting in the irc channels about messing stuff up!06:57
freeloveyeah...the stupid brown theme.when will they make it blue or white?06:57
Lemon-vir, same here06:57
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Dr_WillisI want a Hot-Pink theme!06:57
blankybrb buddies, dont leave me06:57
LiGhTeRit still won't work :(:(06:57
The_Isle_of_Markman, I just blew up my sudoers file...is there an easy way to fix that in ubuntu?06:57
Lemon-freelove, i tried dapper flight cd 2 and the theme was same !06:57
freelovenooooooooooooo!06:57
Dr_WillisThe_Isle_of_Mark,  blew up?06:57
Lemon-yes i know what u mean06:57
Lemon-.........06:57
LiGhTeRbut im pretty sure about it is some wierd stuff about "if it is legal in your country"06:57
viri'd like to see the ubuntu desktop image polished off....06:58
Lemon-i really hate that brown color06:58
Lemon-:(06:58
freeloveBUT.........mark says the theme will change to blue soon:)06:58
LiGhTeRyou have to lock up something06:58
Lemon-freelove, u sure?06:58
labandusofer0,06:58
Stormx2So, what is new in Dapper?06:58
ofer0labandus, ?06:58
LiGhTeRand i cant remember the command i used on my desktop :(:(06:58
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labandusofer0,  are you still online??06:58
tiglionabbitStormx2: have you tried changing your themes and such, and downloading more from gnome-look.org?06:58
Lemon-Stormx2, new kernel new programs :P06:58
sunshine82ofer0 i need to chane ogg to mp3 not wav06:58
The_Isle_of_MarkDr_Willis, I use vi for my editor (say what you sih I love it) so I exported the editor from nano to vi for a visudo and some how it didnt work so I cant sudo now :(06:58
freeloveLemon-: ya i read in an interview of mark...06:58
virthe logo.... followed by ubuntu... spelt in different colours...with scan lines06:58
labandusi wanted you to send me this thing06:58
Lemon-freelove, hope they really change :P06:58
ofer0sunshine82, that's why I gave you the "lame" command. apt-get install lame06:59
labandusofer0, i wanted you to send me this thing06:59
Lemon-freelove, i dont like brown... seriously06:59
EleafLAME06:59
ofer0labandus, okay, wait a second please06:59
Lemon-LAME!06:59
LiGhTeRDr_willis any idee ??06:59
freeloveok temme fast.....whats ur fav gnome iconset & window border theme?06:59
Stormx2Lemon-: Ooh cool, what new programs?06:59
Lemon-ubotu, tell sunshine82 about lame06:59
labandusofer0, ok06:59
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Dr_WillisThe_Isle_of_Mark,  theres some example sudoers files on the forums -  rescue mode/live cd.. and fix it. :()06:59
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Lemon-Stormx2, firstly....06:59
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  no clue what you are even doing now. :P06:59
Lemon-Stormx2, FIREFOX 1.5!!06:59
ofer0sunshine82, lame is for MP3 encoding, but first you need a WAV file.. you understand?06:59
The_Isle_of_MarkDr_Willis, only way?06:59
Lemon-YAY~06:59
virmilk always looks good06:59
vir:)06:59
freelovei like dropline neu:)06:59
Stormx2Lemon-: Already got >.<06:59
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ofer0sunshine82, install it, then run it on the wav file07:00
Lemon-Stormx2, and NEW kernel07:00
Lemon-which is more faster07:00
Dr_WillisThe_Isle_of_Mark,  if you  messed it  up - ya gotta fix it. :P07:00
Stormx2Lemon-: Yay07:00
Lemon-Stormx2, new nautils !07:00
Stormx2Lemon-: Nautils?07:00
Lemon-Stormx2, which has search options ~_~07:00
The_Isle_of_MarkDr_Willis, yep, ok thanks...I was wondering if there was an easy way07:00
Lemon-Stormx2, the file management program07:00
Stormx2Lemon-: Is that a build of nautilus or a typo?07:00
Lemon-+ _+)07:00
The_Isle_of_Markseeya07:00
Dr_WillisThe_Isle_of_Mark,  its fairly easy. :P the file is like 2  lines.. rest is comments.07:00
Lemon-Stormx2, typo -_-07:01
Lemon-sorry -0-07:01
virneowin.net  has some lovely desktops07:01
LiGhTeRdr_willis i don't think it is about codecs it is about something that are illegal in some states and legal in others don't know how to explain it better07:01
Stormx2Lemon-: haha ok. Sweet, new nautilus will be great07:01
ofer0LiGhTeR, what's the problem? you installed what i have gave you?07:01
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  no clue what you are even talking about.07:01
Stormx2Lemon-: I never finished my plugin to open a directory as root >.<07:01
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LiGhTeRofer0 yes i did07:01
nico551i need a hand with some networking in ubuntu, im a bit stuck, im trying to access a ms network through samba and i get this message when i want to browse network groups....(se further-->) ..NICO is my own pc, which is a bit wired since im not trying to connect to it, but the network groups. what is more wired is that my pass for my own pc doesnt work?! -- http://peecee.dk/?id=23418&noresize=yes (screenshot)07:01
mititeluhello, how can i make a swap partition and get ubuntu to use it after it has been installed, also... can i change FAT or NTFS partition to ext3 directly (with the data unchanged on the partition?)07:02
Stormx2Lemon-: Opening nautilus from nautilus is just damned confusing!!07:02
LiGhTeRofer0 but it didn't hel anything07:02
Lemon-Stormx2, hahah :P07:02
Lemon-Stormx2, try ur best  ^^07:02
Stormx2Lemon-: it freaks out. it sends the right command but fails anyway07:02
Stormx2>.<07:02
Lemon-I really liked dapper07:02
ofer0LiGhTeR, what exactly are you trying to do?07:02
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Lemon-but07:02
Lemon-one thing...07:02
Lemon-THEME!!07:02
Lemon-..07:02
Lemon-that is the only prob07:02
Stormx2Whats wrong with it?07:02
ga^vuif i've installed opendc...how do I use it?...cause...heeelp07:02
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Lemon-otherwise its a fine DE07:02
Lemon-fine DIST07:02
Dr_Willisgee takes 10 sec to change themes.. :p07:03
mititeluhello, how can i make a swap partition and get ubuntu to use it after it has been installed, also... can i change FAT or NTFS partition to ext3 directly (with the data unchanged on the partition?)07:03
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Dr_Willismititelu,  may be easier to make a swap file.07:03
Lemon-gnome-arts is always there for you to change themes!07:03
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mititeluhow?07:03
LiGhTeRofer0 im trying to look on a movie but i only get the sound :(:( i had the same prob on my desktop but i used a command from a site and it worked it was somwthing about some movies ain't allowed to be played in some states but in other states and ubuntu is locked and it was just to unlock it07:03
Dr_Willismititelu,  a little googling will show ya exacrtly how to do it.07:03
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mititeluok, thanks07:04
ofer0mititelu, 1. create a partition using 'cfdisk', then 'mkswap' ans 'swapon' on it. 2. don't do it - it is risky.07:04
Dr_Willismititelu,  about 3 commands ya type.07:04
frankzxgfjhwy07:04
frankzxgfjhey07:04
burning_bronxthat's what I get for not reading carefully the update package list07:04
Dr_Willismititelu,  as fior the fat data... ewww...  not sure tahts doable.07:04
mititeluofer0 why not do it? :-)07:04
ofer0LiGhTeR, You know which codec the movie uses ?07:04
burning_bronxflash memory doesn't automount07:04
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burning_bronx"usb disk" doesn't automount07:04
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  run the movie and player from the shell and watch the messages.07:04
ofer0mititelu, It can damage your data. You can do it through a windows app, like Partition Magic, but I don't know if that will work.07:05
LiGhTeRofer0 actually no07:05
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ofer0LiGhTeR, Can you give me it's filename ?07:05
LiGhTeRdr_willis there is no message it is just the sound from the movie07:05
mititeluok, thanks a lot, i'll just copy somewhere else, partition and copy back07:05
LiGhTeRofer0 video407:05
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mititeluthanks for the help!07:05
sunshine82ofer0 this is what u givin me oggdec file.ogg newfile.wav lame newfile.wav but i dont understand07:05
ofer0LiGhTeR, and please give me the output of "file movie", while movie=your movie filename07:05
LiGhTeRofer0 .avi07:05
frankzxgfjis there any reposetory that also serves non-oss software, i am looking for skype...07:05
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,   every video player ive tried spits out dozens of messages on the command line..  :P07:05
ofer0sunshine82, yeah. those are 2 different commands. the first one creates a wav file, and the other command replaces your wav file with the MP3 file. Understood ?07:06
LiGhTeRdr_willis well it aint spitting out a thing :S:S or it might just be me who is a total noob =)07:06
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  you are runnign it from the command line? or just double clicking....07:06
ofer0sunny256, 1. oggdec file.ogg file.wav. 2. lame file.wav07:06
ofer0sunshine82, , 1. oggdec file.ogg file.wav. 2. lame file.wav07:06
LiGhTeRim double clicking =)07:07
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  and i said several times.. :P from the 'terminal/command line/shell' :P07:07
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  time to learn the shell funamentals!07:07
LiGhTeRdr_willis well as i said im a total noob still trying to learn linux =)07:08
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  you did use the shell and insalled that w32codec package?07:08
LiGhTeRdr_willis yes i did and it worked fine07:08
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  then find your video file and use a command like...07:08
LiGhTeRdr_willis but it still don't work :(:(07:08
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,    xine filetoplay.avi07:08
LiGhTeRdr_willis okeje07:09
Dr_Willisor whatever player youi are using.07:09
Dr_Willisits thtat simple. :P07:09
LiGhTeRi try it07:09
gnomefreakwhen i change  my bash_profile file do i need to run anything like update-bash_profile or something?07:09
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  it will most likely spit out what codec's it sees in the file and trying to use.07:09
ofer0labandus,07:09
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  its read only on new logins07:09
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gnomefreaki used gedit07:09
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  the .bash_profile is ran ONLY by 'login' shells.  .bashrc is read by all new shells.07:10
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burning_bronxwhy the fawk this isn't working07:10
ofer0cya everybody07:10
ofer0LiGhTeR, learn how to use the shell - it's stronger than you think07:10
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LiGhTeRofer0 well thats what i want to do but it aint easy :P07:11
Dr_Williseasy? its trivial.07:11
Dr_Willishow hard is   "programtorun  filetouse"  :P07:11
LiGhTeRDr_willis im sending a screen dump if it is ok ?07:11
Dr_WillisUnlearning the windows-zombie-mentality is hard.07:11
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  just look for some lines mentioning codecs07:11
Dr_WillisMost likely the video is in some odd funky codec.07:12
LiGhTeRDr_willis all it mention is that it cant open the dvd07:12
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  you said you were playing a file earlier. not a dvd07:12
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LiGhTeRDr_willis it is a file07:12
gnomefreakwell damnit i added the "." like he said and i still have to use ./file to run it :(07:12
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LiGhTeRDr_willis but it says that it cant open/read the dvd :S:S07:12
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  you are trying to add the current dir to the path?07:13
gnomefreaki think so :(07:13
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  what program are you using anyway? whats the exact command line.07:13
The_Isle_of_MarkDr_Willis, hey that wasnt too bad at all...in failsafe I just visudoed in the default nano (BLECH!) and fixed the crazy characters that somehow got in there07:13
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  'think' ?07:13
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sunshine82ofer0 it givin me an error it sayin no such file or directory07:13
LiGhTeRdr_willis im using vlc to open the file07:13
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Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  so whats the command line you are using?07:13
sunshine82ofer0 failed to open input file07:14
thesaltydogburning_bronx, I have fixed all things running aptitude instead of apt-get..07:14
docgnomeI've got an ATI Radeon 9600SE and I've installed the fglrx drivers from ATI... but OpenGL apps still run terribly slow and jerky07:14
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LiGhTeRdr_willis im not using command line (uncept the one u told me) vlc video4.avi07:14
burning_bronxthesaltydog, they are actually both doing the same just in a diff way07:14
burning_bronxwhatever works for you07:14
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  and its saying file not found?07:15
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burning_bronxthat's the beauty of linux ;)07:15
gnomefreakDr_Willis, yes i am i made a script "logins" and im trying to run it by just typing "logins" without the "" but it still only runs using ./logins07:15
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  why not make a /home/user/bin dir and put it in there?07:15
thesaltydogburning_bronx, but with apt-get I was getting breaks during the upgrade. aptitude has a better dependencies control system.07:15
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  or make an alias for it.07:15
tabaskohi o/07:15
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  your way - you will have to 'cd' to where its at.. then run it.07:16
burning_bronxlol thesaltydog they both get the dependencies from the same place07:16
burning_bronxXD07:16
tabaskocan somebody help me with nvidia drivers?07:16
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thesaltydogok. anyway, now it works.07:16
thesaltydogburning_bronx, in any case they are not the same. Look in the debian docs.07:16
LiGhTeRdr_willis no it says:  file or katalog don't exist  libdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD07:16
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gnomefreakoh ok so take the "." out of the file i put it in and make a dir. named home/user/bin and save the file there?07:17
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  just run  the  vlc program and use its load/file menu :) to select the file07:17
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GoTeKhi07:17
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LiGhTeRdr_willis main input error: no suitable access module for 'video4.avi'07:17
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  i THINK you are making this way toooo hard.  lol but thats the basics of it.07:17
GoTeKcan any1 tell me how to change Clearlooks window border color07:18
GoTeKby default it is blue07:18
LiGhTeRdr_willis i done that but it still just plays the sound :(:(07:18
GoTeKi'd like 2 change it07:18
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  now the command vlc -vvvv or ( --vvv) will give a LOT more output..07:18
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  but it all boils down to - some funkuy video codec is my guess07:18
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GoTeKis it an hexa valur in /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc    ?07:19
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  i have several video files that i cant play under Ubuntu/Linux at the moment. :(07:19
GoTeKcan(t find the hexa value07:19
GoTeKany1 can help ?07:19
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LiGhTeRdr_williz ok well i know what the prob is it is just that i cant find the homepage that had the command line ::(:(07:20
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Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  oh? whats the prob then?07:20
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kottonCAN-O-WORMS:  kenswanson here, thank you for your help this morning, I learned a lot, tough being a newbie in ubuntu07:21
LiGhTeRdr_williss it is something about ubuntu is locked to not play some movies without license to them something like that07:21
gnomefreakDr_Willis, the command is mkdir /home/user/bin isnt it im trying to recall it from memory07:21
tabaskoso, can someone help with nvidia 3d accelleration? :/07:21
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  i find that VERY hard to belive.07:21
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  well you do want to use your users name fior 'user' :P07:22
gnomefreakyes07:22
gnomefreakbut that command is right?07:22
Dr_Williscd07:22
Dr_Willismkdir bin07:22
Dr_Willisthere ya go. :P07:22
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LiGhTeRdr_willis i'm not sure but i know it sayed something about "in some countries it is legal to use if you live in one of those countires use the following command ....."07:22
sunshine82ofer0 i dont understand why it playin but i cant get oggdec file.ogg to work07:22
LiGhTeRdr_willis it helped on my desktop =)07:22
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Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  first id ever heard of vlc doing that...       normally those warnings are when you download/install stuff.07:23
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LiGhTeRdr_willis it is not vlc who is locked it is ubuntu07:23
asdcGrub error 18 now :(07:23
kottonI installed yahoo only to find that it must be there 1st build, does anyone know of a package that will log to yahoo and play music in the chat rooms?07:23
sunshine82lemon do u have any ideas the computer doesnt recognize the artist how do i fix this the track playing though but i cant get oggdec to work07:23
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  that makes even LESS sence.07:23
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  unless you are refering to DVDplayer region locking.07:24
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gnomefreakwhat is home? isnt it ~/ or something like that?07:24
GoTeKcan any1 tell me how to change Clearlooks window border color ?07:24
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LiGhTeRdr_willis well it might be that =)07:24
slewhi, how can i change the sound theme?07:24
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Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  and you are not playing a dvd.. :P so... actually most players have a work around for that I belive.07:24
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LiGhTeRdr_willis well i don't know :P i just know that the command helped me out on my desktop and i hope it can on my laptop to =) :P: :D07:25
holycowguys, someone has to put this into the wiki: http://www.glawing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1407:25
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holycowsimply the best instructions on how to setup twinview ever07:26
Dr_WillisLiGhTeR,  try the 'history' command in the shell on the pc it worked.. and see what you typed07:26
gregrhola!07:26
LiGhTeRok07:26
senthilPlease help I'm not able to watch online movie... I'm a newbie07:26
senthilPlease help I'm not able to watch online movie... I'm a newbie07:26
senthilPlease help I'm not able to watch online movie... I'm a newbie07:26
trappiststop it.07:26
Dr_Willissenthil,  #1 - flooding liek that gets you ignroed.07:26
trappistor worse07:26
gregryep07:26
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Dr_Willissenthil,  #2 - crying you are a newbie - doesnet help much either.07:27
kotton:-" I installed yahoo only to find that it must be there 1st build, does anyone know of a package that will log to yahoo and play music in the chat rooms?07:27
seliniumsenthil, try not to enrage the channel! :)07:27
jsoris there a good way to make an iso (with mkisofs) so that the files look 'right' in both windows and linux?  I tried rock ridge file names, but windows doesn't seem to like it07:27
seliniumsenthil, are you using Firefox?07:27
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senthilselinium, Yp07:27
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Dr_Willisjsor,  perhaps 'udf'  file system? ive never really had any issues with the names.07:27
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gregrHello,, I just installed edu Ubuntu. Works great as it stands.. But Im trying to access the scooltool and cant figure out how? I looked at the Package management and see that it is installed but not sure how to access?07:28
seliniumok, you need to sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer07:28
gnomefreakok the file is in the new dir. and its still not running do i need to cd to bin?07:29
jsorDr_Willis, I'll take a look at udf.  the name problem is that it shortens the file names to 8.3 format, although they appear correctly on linux07:29
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gnomefreaknope :(07:29
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seliniumsenthil, ^^^07:29
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Dr_Willisjsor,  ahh... yea.. thers some basic rockridge i think that does that.. then the newer ones take care of it.07:30
slewgnomefreak-> do you know how to change the sound theme?07:30
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gnomefreakno slew07:30
slewk thanks07:30
senthilselinium, Its says mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.07:30
Dr_Willisjsor,  ive only had issues with files with Huge-long file names and funky chars.07:30
seliniumsenthil, ok, thats fine07:30
seliniumsenthil, So has it completed?07:30
senthilselinium, Now what should i do ?07:31
seliniumsenthil, you will need the W32codecs as well07:31
senthilselinium, I can watch for a 2 mins after that its stopped working. I had already installed w32codecs07:31
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pawelgnomefreak: I am not so sure if there are sound themes for Gnome, but you can change sounds for each event in Panel -> System -> Preferences -> Sound if this is enough for you.07:32
senthilselinium, Its a WMV file07:32
jsorDr_Willis, thanks for your help.  I think I need to take another look at what rock ridge is doind07:32
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kotton installed yahoo only to find that it must be there 1st build, does anyone know of a package that will log to yahoo and play music in the chat rooms?07:32
gnomefreakpawel, im not trying to change them07:32
senthilselinium, It downloads directly and play. By default it took totem player07:32
seliniumsenthil, strange... It works for a while then stops? Or it has stopped completely now...07:33
gnomefreakslew is07:33
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ferenchello07:33
slewpawel thanks07:33
senthilselinium, See in windows media player it first buffer for some time and stops then its again buffer for some more time07:33
pawelgnomefreak: aah.07:34
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ferenchow do i create a Starter that logs the user out?07:34
pawelgnomefreak: sorry. ;)07:34
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seliniumsenthil, If you right click on the file, then select mplyer from the Open With tab07:34
pawelslew: does it help? :)07:34
ferencdoes anybody know the command?07:34
senthilselinium, Similarly its buffer for the first time and stopped working07:34
gnomefreakits ok07:34
ninja2The ubuntu install freezes for me, just after it loads something like "detecting partitions" or whatever... It just stops. Could it be because I have S-ATA drives?07:34
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Dr_Willisferenc,  i diont think we know what you are refering to 'a starter'07:34
slewpawel its a start! thats all i need =] 07:34
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ferencan icon on the desktop07:34
senthilselinium, Its not giving option to open with Mplayer07:35
selinium?07:35
Dr_Willisferenc,  gee users cant handle using the menus eh? actually there may be some special buttons you can add to the panel that do that...07:35
ninja2?07:35
senthilselinium, Is there any way to make this Mplayer as default ?07:35
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coNPferenc: I think you can't move it to the desktop, altough you can create a button on the panel07:35
seliniumsenthil, the way I just described!07:35
ferenci know07:35
lenin1heyy07:36
ferencthey can use the menu bar07:36
seliniumsenthil, pm?07:36
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ferencbut i want to make it as easy as possible07:36
lenin1i need some help im bigginer in this07:36
coNPferenc: put a button to the panel07:36
senthilselinium, PM means ?07:36
ferencbut it is to small07:36
seliniumsenthil, private mesage?07:36
lenin1please07:36
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pashawlenin1,  just ask07:37
seliniumsenthil, It means we can do this without all the other messages going past.07:37
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KlondikeHi, is this where I can ask about an Ubuntu installation issue? (Can't detect network interface)07:38
senthilselinium, I understand and said hi07:38
lenin1idont know nothing about linux i wannna to know some thing07:38
lenin1pashaw07:38
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pashawlenin1,  know what?07:39
LiGhTeRlldr_willis well i give up now :(:(07:39
lenin1how to used07:39
KlondikeWell, I just bought a new Dell computer, arrived today, and have every intention of wiping it clean and installing Ubuntu.07:39
coNPferenc: you can make a new panel, 120px high, and put it in the middle of the desktop07:39
KlondikeBut, my Intel PRO/1000 network adapter apparently isn't detected during the Ubuntu installation procedure.07:40
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lenin1are you espert in linux07:40
KlondikeI've located drivers for Linux from intel for the Linux kernel 2.6.x and below, but I'm not sure how I would get the Ubuntu installer to even use them07:40
lenin1like ubuntu07:40
seliniumsenthil, I think you need to log your nick.   no worries we can do it here..    in a terminal  sudo dpkg -l "*mplayer*"|grep ii    and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:40
KlondikeIf anyone has any thoughts on this, I'd be much obliged.07:40
seliniumsenthil, let me know the link07:40
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gnomefreakDr_Willis,  i added the dir and re-wrote the script and put it in the bin file and now i have to cd bin than ./logins to run it im trying to avoid cd'ing and also trying to avoid the ./ command07:41
pashawlenin1, this is not a teaching channel   you can find linux guides off  http://www.google.com   search-> linux guides07:41
lenin1ok my friend07:42
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senthilselinium, What link do you want ?07:42
KlondikeSo, no one has any ideas on how to get the Ubuntu installer to recognize my network interface?07:42
seliniumsenthil, Have you put the output in pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:43
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senthilselinium, Yep07:44
senthilselinium, Please go ahead and check it out07:44
KlondikeWell, I'm in Windows right now, since I couldn't install Ubuntu07:45
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sunshine82ofer007:45
gregranyone know how to access the school tool and school bell in edu ubuntu?07:45
KlondikeAnd Windows seems to have no problem with it07:45
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yggdrasilello gents07:45
gregrhello07:45
ubuntuhi07:45
KlondikeHello07:45
KlondikeIs there any way for me to supplement the Ubuntu installer with extra driver packages that I've found on the Internet?07:45
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pashawKlondike, the card you have should already be a module in the kernel07:47
ubuntuirc.red-latina.org07:47
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Bjoern-ErikI am wondering, is there any way i can make Konversation use ISO8859-15?07:47
KlondikeThat's what I assumed07:47
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KlondikeSo the drivers are likely there, then07:48
KlondikeIs there any other reason the installer might not see it...?07:48
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pashawKlondike, using lspci   and lsmod  you can locate the module Ubuntu is attempting to use07:48
KlondikeCan I do that during the install?07:48
seliniumsenthil: OK right click on the wmv file and got the Open With Tab07:48
senthilYes07:48
gregrhow can i tell if apache is running...?07:49
seliniumsenthil, Then click on the add button. Select mplayer.07:49
gnomefreakKlondike,  is ubuntu not installing?07:49
KlondikeIt doesn't detect my network interface07:49
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KlondikeI just found this forum post about my exact issue, posted 5 hours ago07:49
Klondikehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10710507:49
KlondikeSays the driver is out of date07:49
rinzai-shugregr: ps auxc | grep apache207:49
yggdrasilman linux is pretty amazing07:49
gregrty07:49
gregryes it is07:49
dieffelhello! Anyone know how i'll get "overlay" to work correctly with my nvidia6600 in ubuntu 5.10?07:50
yggdrasilstarmax 3000/18007:50
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yggdrasilwho said you cant polish a terd07:50
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korhalfdo you guys find earbud headphones to kinda make the ear sore after a while?07:50
rinzai-shuyggdrasil: yes it is!  cat /dev/urandom | hallelujah07:50
korhalfi mean i cant listen for more than 30 minutes to my frickin mp3 player and these are some Sennheiser 400MX headphones07:50
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KlondikeHmm, yeah, this site also says that Breezy's driver for e1000 is outdated07:50
Klondikehttp://blog.dataloss.nl/perma/ubuntu-510-breezy-on-dell-dimension-9150/07:50
KlondikeAnd it provides a compiled e1000.ko driver07:51
KlondikeBut how do I get the Ubuntu installer to use this?07:51
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yggdrasilso i got it all good but the video onboard is a um mach 6407:51
SeveasKlondike, during install wget and insmod it07:51
senthilselinium, I don't see add button07:51
yggdrasilim jsut wondering if anyone her has any expericen with x and dual vid cards07:51
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gnomefreakim looking at the download page for thedrivers07:52
dieffelhello! Anyone know how i'll get "overlay" to work correctly with my nvidia6600 in ubuntu 5.10?07:52
KlondikeWill wget work though?  It's my network card that's not being recognized07:52
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Benixhi07:53
SeveasKlondike, hmm, good point07:53
DenstarkI installed win32codecs but totem still won't play .wmv files... /cr07:53
SeveasDenstark, try mplayer/totem-xine07:53
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paganyou are online tho aren't you Klondike?07:53
Denstarkwill do, thanks =D07:53
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SeveasKlondike, floppy, other hard disk partition?07:53
Seveasusb disk even07:54
seliniumsenthil: one moment07:54
paganburn cd?07:54
BenixWhat is the package name of the acx driver?07:54
senthilselinium, ok07:54
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senthilselinium, Please help me to fix this problem...07:54
KlondikeI'm on my current Windows installation07:54
KlondikeWhich I am intending to wipe when I install Ubuntu07:54
Klondikehmm07:54
KlondikeI don't have a floppy drive07:55
Seveasusb stick then :)07:55
KlondikeMy other hard disk needs an IDE->SATA driver...well, I have an iPod ;)07:55
paganKlondike: i'm sorry ignore my smart(_!_) was j/k07:55
seliniumsenthil, I am just doing something for ya..07:55
KlondikeThat's the only USB drive I have right now07:55
KlondikeI could try to find someone's to borrow though.07:55
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senthilselinium, ok07:55
Klondikepagan: :)07:55
KlondikeDo you think my iPod would be recognized as a USB drive?07:56
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tonyyarussoHow can I put spaces between entry lines in a grub menu?07:56
tonyyarussoOr comments describing the options below?07:56
paganKlondike: just glad you have a sense "O" humor...some don't ouch *ducks* "QUACK"07:56
tonyyarusso!grub07:56
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gregrI ran  ps auxc | grep apache2 and it just dropped to the next line.. so it looks as if it is not running... I did a ps auxc and saw a running list, but no apache.07:56
pashawKlondike, if you have to borrow parts   may as well borrow an older network card -instal-   then recompile with new e1000 driver07:56
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KlondikeHeh07:56
KlondikeYeah07:56
KlondikeI could do that07:56
KlondikeI could strip the one from my older computer07:57
pashawKlondike, i do that all the time07:57
monsterhello07:57
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tonyyarussoHi monster.07:57
KlondikeNow don't laugh at this, but do you mean recompiling the kernel?07:57
Anth0ny_is it possible to live monitor in/out-going TCP/IP connections?07:57
KlondikeAnd...is that difficult?07:57
KlondikeI'm familair with Linux/Unix systems but I've never recompiled the kernel07:57
monsterhey what r yall talking about07:57
tonyyarussomonster: Ubuntu Linux, generally.07:58
paganKlondike: that is what I would do. I had some crazy 3com clone card made in japan and could not for life of me get it installed..$20 later I got smart :)07:58
SeveasAnth0ny_, tcpdump, ethereal...07:58
pashawKlondike, its tough  but you learn alot    just don't delete anything referencing your current kernel07:58
tonyyarussomonster: Currently, recompiling kernels, grub, and apache, it seems.07:58
pashawKlondike,  that way you can always go back to it07:58
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monsterha wanna hear something funny07:58
paganmonster: sure :)07:58
Anth0ny_Seveas, thx07:58
seliniumsenthil, http://82.45.118.133/images/Screenshot1.png   here it is!07:59
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pashawKlondike, that page you referenced  mentions that was his long term solution07:59
gixsera07:59
monstermy sister just put it on my compter i have no idea how to work it07:59
paganhehehe I like names like Sneaky_Bastard <---hehehe07:59
burning_bronxyo pplz08:00
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paganmonster: what? ubuntu?08:00
senthilselinium, Tell me how can i get this ?08:00
monsteryea08:00
tonyyarussomonster: Good for your sister.  Don't worry, it's not too hard.08:00
paganmonster: what did you have on there before?08:00
dieffelhello! Anyone know how i'll get "overlay" to work correctly with my nvidia6600 in ubuntu 5.10?08:00
senthilselinium, from where i can get this window ?08:00
burning_bronxanyone knows why automounting USB drives is screwed up in latest dapper?08:00
monsterpuppy linux08:00
jordo23Is there a command that I can run to check if my workstation is connected to our domain?08:00
seliniumsenthil, right click on the WMV file and click properties08:00
paganmonster: she did you a favor..give her a hug :)08:01
monsterha ha08:01
CaptainMorgan!w32 codecs08:01
ubotu[w32 codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/08:01
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odatneed help with sound08:01
burning_bronxpagan, you still around >.>08:01
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KlondikeOkay, I strippe dout the old card08:01
KlondikePagan: Thanks for the advice08:02
jordo23Anyone?08:02
burning_bronxdoesn't your wife beat on you for spending so much time on the PC08:02
burning_bronx>.>08:02
paganmonster: I have tried quit a few distros but I must say this one was least broken one out of the bunch...and well no KDE tripe *ducks* :P```08:02
monsterodat trying pluging in different plug worked on mine08:02
KlondikeI'm going to put in the old network card and install using that08:02
seliniumpagan: Flame Flame Flame Flame.... :)08:02
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paganburning_: you talking to me? ...hmmm! must know my wife LOL08:03
KlondikePagan: is it really necessary to reinstall the kernel just to switch one's network card?08:03
trappistKlondike: no08:03
tonyyarussomonster: Do you have anything in particular you need help figuring out right now then?08:03
burning_bronxthere ain't no other pagans here ;)08:03
paganno08:03
monsterno y08:03
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burning_bronxI am an atheist08:03
KlondikeWell...all right then :)08:03
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paganya I am the only lil pagan in da room..gee head kick me g'head (_!_)08:04
KlondikeOK, I'm going to give this a try then.08:04
burning_bronxthey tried to draw me into Asatru but neopaganism just isn't my thing08:04
KlondikeHopefully I'll be back with Ubuntu.08:04
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monsterwhat is a pagan??08:04
KlondikePeace!08:04
slideFirefox 1.5 sometimes opens pages in another window, but it didnt mean to i don think. Because if I try to close the window it crashes. Anyone else have this happen to them?08:04
Klondikeand thanks again!08:04
holycowdoes anyone have a copy of alacarte? the project website is down08:04
odatanyone able to help me track down a sound problem?08:04
Am|School*cough*Christmas is a pagan holiday*cough*08:04
holycowand there it is08:04
holycowheh08:04
Am|Schoolholycow: what?08:04
paganmonster: a pagan is any religion that is not christian08:04
burning_bronxAmaranth, I know08:04
CaptainMorganwhy do I always have bithc of  time installing codecs? I follow it.. dpkg it.. and totem stil can't display it..08:05
Am|Schoolholycow: it was working when i left for school, i hope my site didn't die :P08:05
burning_bronxAm|School, I meant08:05
monsteri know what an atheist is but wow08:05
holycowAm|School, just came back up :)08:05
pagane.g. jewish <--pagan in christians eyes08:05
monsteroh ok08:05
burning_bronxeverything is pagan in jewish eyes08:05
tonyyarussopagan: Well, I don't know about that definition.08:05
Am|Schoolholycow: might have been down while the admin fixed the logging scripts08:05
senthilselinium, I appreciate your patience. Sorry to offend you still its not working.I can open a WMV file which is located in my harddisk08:05
slidea person who follows a polytheistic or pre-Christian religion (not a Christian or Muslim or Jew)08:05
paganlol burning08:05
trappisttake the religion to #ubuntu-offtopic kthx08:05
slewprolly not a good idea to talk about religion..08:05
burning_bronxbut norse relagions > other pagans08:05
burning_bronx:P08:05
burning_bronx*religions08:05
BenixWhat is the name of the ubuntu acx driver package?08:05
tonyyarussopagan: I'm Christian, and certainly wouldn't catagorize Judaism as pagan.08:05
holycowAm|School, no worries brotha, just glad ot have a copy of that cool app :)08:05
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senthilselinium, But i'm not able to open a WMV file from internet08:06
seliniumsenthil, No offence! @_08:06
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selinium:)08:06
hardbop200hey all - got a question about kernels in Ubuntu08:06
tonyyarussopagan: Old Norse stuff though, sur.08:06
Seveashardbop200, ask away08:06
Sneaky_Bastardtonyyarusso: correct08:06
hardbop200pagan kernels08:06
hardbop200:)08:06
tonyyarusso*sure.08:06
Am|Schoolholycow: :)08:06
burning_bronxyeah08:06
seliniumsenthil, Can you give me a for instance...08:06
pagan<---am just a witch..and no am not wiccan..not that I have any probs with the religion wicca ..nah! just the wiccans that get on my nerves :D08:06
Seveasreligion -> #ubuntu-offtopic08:06
Am|Schoolholycow: btw, what do you think of the layout on that site?08:06
burning_bronxbtw each day of the weak has a pagan name08:06
CaptainMorgansudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg >> can't find packages and I have all repositories checked.... wth?08:06
trappistpagan: offtopic.08:06
Sneaky_Bastard"pagan" is anything outside the Judeo-Christian-Muslim sphere08:06
senthilselinium, Sure Sir08:06
seliniumsenthil, An URL, please :)08:06
trappistburning_bronx: offtopic.08:06
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trappistSneaky_Bastard: offtopic.08:07
Am|School*sigh*08:07
burning_bronxtrappist, what's the topic?08:07
Am|SchoolI ruined it. :P08:07
hardbop200j/k - does Ubuntu have any of the -rt patches for multimedia use in the standard repository?08:07
holycowAm|School, crisp, clean, easy to read :)08:07
paganya ya I am known for flyin way off topic so sorry ...bows to the powers that be (_!_)08:07
senthilselinium, Do you have yahoo id ?08:07
trappistburning_bronx: /topic smartass08:07
monsterwell bye08:07
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senthilselinium, or hotmail id ?08:07
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holycowi like it, don't need much more than that08:07
Seveashardbop200, no it has not08:07
burning_bronxtrappist, you are being a smartass indeed08:07
burning_bronx>.>08:07
seliniumsenthil, sorry, no.  hotmail yes.08:07
Am|Schoolholycow: tango icons make everything pretty :)08:07
Seveastango ie cool08:08
Seveasis*08:08
CaptainMorganis anybody on topic in here anymore ?08:08
burning_bronxSeveas, have you any idea why automounting of USB drives got broken?08:08
benplauttango is awesome, but the folder icons suck =|08:08
burning_bronxif you use dapper that is08:08
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hardbop200Seveas:  thank you; so am I going to have to build everything by hand, or is it possible to use a Agnula kernel?08:08
Sneaky_Bastardwhat's this ?08:08
SeveasBurgerMann, no clue08:08
pagantrappist: nothing like smartass... my fav site www.smartass.com08:08
senthilselinium, http://www.chrisgeary.co.uk/wrestling/sets/OilWrestlingLeeChris/Video/ChrisGeary_OilWrestling_56.wmv08:08
Sneaky_Bastardwho kicked me ?08:08
benplautthus, mixing tango and Humility mod rocks :)08:08
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holycowAm|School, oh haha! i was wondering why they looked familiar08:08
holycownice08:08
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Seveasburning_bronx, no clue about the usb thing08:08
Am|Schoolbenplaut: the folder icons aren't grey anymore08:08
paganlick my nuts booter08:09
benplautthey aren't?08:09
burning_bronxI can still pmount it08:09
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burning_bronxbut that's uncool08:09
burning_bronxI like automounting better08:09
Seveashardbop200, agnula seems to wirk08:09
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Seveasburning_bronx, dapper?08:09
burning_bronxdapper drake08:09
burning_bronx?08:09
Seveasare you using dapper?08:09
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burning_bronxyeh08:09
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hardbop200Seveas, thanks, I'll definately give it a try.08:09
paganthe ones holding my motheboard in my box just so i am not off topic08:09
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cmathesonBurgerMann: dapper's not supported...08:09
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seliniumsenthil, you shoudl of sent that in a msg    to send a msg for only my eyes   /msg selinium   <blah blah blah>08:10
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burning_bronxcmatheson, what's not supported?08:10
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benplautthank you, Seveas08:10
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cmathesonburning_bronx: using dapper08:10
burning_bronxnot supported by what?08:10
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SantaD1hows dapper going?08:10
Seveasburning_bronx, afaik there are a few issues with that in dapper08:10
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cmathesonburning_bronx: irc, mailing lists, etc.08:10
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Am|Schoolbenplaut: http://tango-project.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/scalable/places/folder.png08:10
mc|ambhelp!. i cannot start x. i get this error xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice    No such file or directory.08:10
burning_bronxso IRC shouldn't work in dapper? tell it to xchat 2.6.008:10
burning_bronx>.>08:10
odatonboard sound not being detected any suggestions08:11
Seveasmc|amb, modprobe psmouse08:11
benplautAm|School: sweet!08:11
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_oPhello all08:11
mc|ambSeveas, I've done that without getting a good result.08:11
burning_bronx!dapper08:11
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake08:11
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ninja2Hey.. I get an error when installing Ubuntu. It says "cannot install initrd-tools" ... What is wrong?08:11
seliniumsenthil, So when you open it in Fire fox, does it have am Mplayer logo in the top left of the screen?08:12
Seveasninja2, bad cd probably08:12
ninja2Ok08:12
senthilselinium, nope08:12
_oP@ninja2 not shure but have u disabled the virus protection in bios ? because this blocks writing to mbr08:12
Llewxamcan anyone help me with this error: configure: error: Can't find the -lglut library.08:12
seliniumsenthil, right click on the screen what does it say?08:12
Llewxam when i check synaptic i have freeglut and libglut installed.08:12
SeveasLlewxam, install the -dev packages08:13
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Seveas!tell Llewxam about compiling08:13
senthilselinium, Open, Open in tab , Another link ......08:13
SantaD1Llewxam: maybe you're missing the -dev libraries?08:13
_oP@ninja2 but activate it after installation again!08:13
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Llewxamfor both?08:13
mc|ambSeveas, I also get : Fatal IO Error 104  (connection reseted by peer) on xserver ....08:13
Llewxamyea i am... for both.... -.-08:13
tonyyarussoAnyone familiar with Grub?08:14
Seveas!anyone08:14
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>08:14
SantaD1my favorite time!08:14
seliniumsenthil can you type   ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/  and put the output in the pastebin08:14
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_oPhow do i play multible sounds on breezy - artsdsp -m command will not work , i have seen there is this q3jack and jack soundserver but this seems a little to risky08:15
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_oPjust want to be able to play xmms and quake 3 or et at same time08:15
mc|ambhelp! anyone   i'm getting this : Fatal IO Error 104  (connection reseted by peer) on xserver ...08:16
_oPprob is that my soundcard does not support multible soundsorce mixing08:16
JFlashwhat is the "write to disc" option i get on Nautilus?08:16
xangel36how can i install java in the commad line doen any one knows?08:16
Seveas!tell xangel36 about java08:16
tonyyarussoI want to do the following with grub: a) make spaces in the grub menu, b) make update-grub only reload the current file, not add new entries, c) make comments in the menu to display describing sets of entries.08:16
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JFlashwhy is that when I drop files to a media cd the files instantenously appear as they are burned in the cd and there is no delay?08:17
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senthilselinium, I pasted ...08:17
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_oPcheers! just drinking a tafelwein weiss with water, thats the right stuff, oh yahh no hunfovers08:17
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tonyyarussoJFlash, To burn the selected file to a CD.  Useful for downloaded ISOs.08:17
_oP*.hungovers08:17
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_oP:p08:17
mc|ambhow can I correct this error:    failed to initialize core devices08:17
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JFlashtonyyarusso, thank you. do you know the answer for my second question?08:18
gnomefreakhave big big problems here :(08:18
burning_bronxgnome-volume-manager got killed by  upgrades.08:18
seliniumsenthil, there we go, your browser is using totem! We will need to get rid of those files!08:18
burning_bronxcoolsvile08:19
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senthilselinium, How to do that ?08:19
ercuevahi... can someone help me to install ipw2200 dirver using ubuntu breezy?08:19
seliniumsenthil,   sudo mkdir ~/Desktop/libtotem08:19
tonyyarussoJFlash, Not really, but is it actually burning then, or is there some sort of "apply" button?  Are you talking in a burning program or in Nautilus?08:19
xangel36is there another way tio install java like apt-get install something????08:19
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JFlashtonyyarusso, nautilus08:20
Seveasercueva, it's installed by default08:20
tonyyarusso!tell xangel36 about javadebs08:20
gnomefreakhow do you undo a mv command if you cant open a term?08:20
_oPIS THERE A UBUNTU GAMING CHANNEL ?08:20
Seveas_oP, drop the caps08:20
ercuevaseveas, which version is istalled of ipw2200?08:20
Seveas!info ipw220008:20
seliniumsenthil,    sudo mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem* ~/Desktop/libtotem08:20
tonyyarussoSorry xangel36, that wasn't what I meant to do.08:20
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tonyyarussoxangel36: Yes.  Universe has j2re1.4 and PLF has j2re1.5.08:21
senthilselinium, done08:21
benplautgnomefreak: ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gnome08:21
Seveas<6>ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.608:21
seliniumclose FF and reopen, try a file08:21
ercuevaseveas, OK I am checking, thanks08:21
godMy nvidia-glx thing didn't work.08:21
gnomefreaki moved my whole dir into the /usr/local/bin how do i put it back to home08:21
Llewxamk that did it. now to keep going with the compilation... thanks sev.08:21
benplautgnomefreak: look at what i said above08:22
_oPsomeone know how i get y`z toolbar this nice animated bar running under gnome?08:22
gnomefreakok08:22
gnomefreakty08:22
benplautthat'll get you to a command line :)08:22
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godMy nvidia-glx thing didn't work.08:22
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huckHallo08:23
seliniumgod, heard you the first time! :)08:23
senthilselinium, Done08:23
burning_bronxhey there is j2rel.608:23
burning_bronxchill08:23
ercuevasevas, I tryed and it tells me: no menu item for ipw220008:23
godselinium:  Then why didn't you help me the first time?08:23
huckI am new08:23
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seliniumsenthil, now open a wmv file, it should use mplayer now08:24
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g1bsonHi everyone, I am trying to log in as su in console08:24
g1bsonbut my passowrd is bad08:24
ercuevaseveas, Are you sure that ipw2200 is by default installed in ubuntu breezy?08:24
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seliniumgod, Because I don't know the answer, but it is a bit irritating when people paste the same thing over and over again. Wait a while before reposting. If anyone can help they will. Also, it is a statement, not a question08:25
burning_bronxg1bson, why do you need su?08:25
burning_bronxjust use sudo08:25
g1bsonto unmount another partition08:25
g1bsonthrough console08:25
godMy nvidia-glx thing didn't work. Help?08:25
burning_bronxsudo umount08:25
g1bsoncan't do it through GUI08:25
JFlashtonyyarusso, i dont think it's actually burning it08:25
godselinium:  Better?08:25
g1bsonso sudo unmount hdc1 would work?08:25
burning_bronxyep08:25
SantaD1does anyone follow banshee development?08:26
burning_bronxit's umount08:26
burning_bronxnot unmount08:26
seliniumgod, much! :) Cheers! :D08:26
godselinium:  It's not very cheery over here.08:26
LinuxDudeshalom all08:26
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JFlashtonyyarusso, it reads cd creator on the top bar, so it's just virtual, you have to press the write to disk for it to be real08:26
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g1bsonumount: only root can unmount /dev/hdc1 from /media/hdc1 means ?08:26
tonyyarussoJFlash, Ah.08:26
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seliniumsenthil, Did it work?08:27
xangel36i nned help08:27
_oPsomeone know an animated toolbar like y`z or osx like, for gnome?08:27
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g1bsonits gone08:27
g1bsonthx for the help08:27
ercuevadoes anyone know how to install ipw2200 in ubuntu breezy?08:27
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Tobahrm08:27
senthilselinium, Yes08:27
senthilselinium, Your really amazing08:27
TobaI used synaptic to lock the version of a package08:27
seliniumsenthil, Cool!08:28
Tobaso apt-get update;apt-get upgrade should leave it alone right?08:28
senthilselinium, Now shall i delete the file which i stored in the desktop08:28
seliniumsenthil, no problems! :)08:28
gnomefreakhome folder is just called /home?08:28
_oP@ercuev http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 dunno if that will work08:28
ercuevaI am trying to install ipw2200 because I am unable to get my wireless LAN working in my Toshiba laptop08:28
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seliniumyes, i just wanted to make sure. :)    rm -r ~/Desktop/libtotem08:28
senthilselinium, Shall i delete that folder ?08:28
seliniumsenthil, Somethimes my typing is a bit slow!08:29
gnomefreakyay i fixed it :)08:29
ercueva_oP I know this thread...08:29
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_oP@ercueva did not help `08:30
ercuevabut, it seems that the answars are not the best ones...  no it didn't08:30
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ercueva@_oP are you using any laptop or you have expirience using a wirelss connection integrated in a centrino processor?08:31
_oP@ercueva maybe u can help me? :) need an animated toolbar for gnome like y`z bar or osx like ...08:31
ercueva_oP, sorry, no idea...<.-(08:31
_oP@ercueva no but i guess someone can help u more mentioning that :)08:31
Evil_Whisper_oP Try gdesklets08:31
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Evil_WhisperI think the desklet is called starter bar08:31
_oP@Evil_Whisper thanks u know a good site for gdesklets08:31
Evil_WhisperYeah hold on08:32
gnomefreakok this isnt that bad i can get used to this :)08:32
Evil_Whisperhttp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/08:32
Evil_Whisperthere you go08:32
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Kirk_Hammettcan some helper pvt me08:32
Kirk_Hammettpls08:32
godMy nvidia-glx thing didn't work. Help?08:32
Evil_WhisperInstall with sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data08:32
senthilselinium, The drawback is in the mplayer is not able to play a wmv file which is locacted in my fat filesystem08:32
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ercuevaII want to use my wireless connection on my laptop, the amazing point is that this laptop I got it as a weding present!!! and I could convince my wife to install ubuntu... but she wants the wireless to work ...  I don't want to install WXP!!!:.:(08:33
senthilselinium, I mounted my windows filesystem08:33
_oP@Evil_Whisper thanks, but they dont have my presures animated bar :(08:33
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Evil_Whisper@_oP did you try starterbar08:33
Kirk_Hammettany 1 knowing a little bit more of unix systems to PVT me pls08:34
senthilselinium, I have couple of movies and songs in that particular partition. I can't play that movie or song using mplayer08:34
seliniumsenthil, ? You shoudl be able to pay any file that is on a mounted drive.08:34
senthilselinium, but i can play using totem08:34
_oPwait i will soon :)08:34
senthilselinium, I need one more help08:35
ettkommanolli have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally.08:35
selinium:)08:35
JFlashok, i burned some files to a Rewritable cd now ubuntu wont let me modify it08:35
tonyyarussoercueva, I've used wireless successfully on a laptop.  I wasn't really following earlier; what's your issue?08:35
senthilselinium, I asked you one question ... Shall i delete those files which is in my desktop ?08:35
seliniumsenthil, yes08:35
Evil_Whisper_oP its under Toolbar/Launchers in the gDesklets shell08:35
JFlashit says i'm not the owner, that the cd is readonly and all sorts of bullshit08:35
tonyyarussoJFlash, Was it a RW?08:35
JFlashyes08:35
seliniumsenthil, and I gave yuo the command to do it! :)08:35
senthilselinium, Thanks08:35
_oPcool thats the real thing! thank u!08:36
ercuevatonyarusso, I can't simply connect to the wireless, but I think is because the driver of the wireless is not loaded well08:36
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Evil_Whisperno problem _oP08:36
Kirk_HammettNo ONE?08:36
JFlashi ran nautilus a root user but still i get the same bullshit messages08:36
tonyyarussoJFlash, Try checking the permissions on the device?08:36
JFlashhow come ubuntu is so lame?08:36
JFlashit wont let me08:36
void^JFlash: iso9660 cd?08:36
_oP@Evil_Whisper do u play quake or enemy territory?08:36
ettkommanolli have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally.08:36
Evil_WhisperYeah08:36
senthilselinium,  i don't have a permission to delete it08:36
seliniumsenthil, I don't understand mplayer not loading some files, I don't know how to help with that one.08:36
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Evil_WhisperEnemy Territory08:36
ercuevatonyyarruso, did you install ipw2200 ?08:37
JFlashvoid^,  how can i tell?08:37
_oP@Evil_Whisper just asking/wondering how u listen to music and play games at same time ?08:37
senthilselinium, sorry for my poor english08:37
seliniumsenthil,     sudo rm -r ~/Desktop/libtotem08:37
seliniumsenthil, no problems! :)08:37
tonyyarussoercueva, What card?08:37
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tonyyarussoercueva, Mine worked out of the box.08:37
_oPlike i mentioned before arts will not work anymore since upgrading to breezy :(08:37
tonyyarussoercueva, It's 2915.08:37
_oPdunno why workt perfectly before08:38
ercuevatonyyarrusso, mine is integrated on the chipset08:38
void^JFlash: mount will tell you, if it's mounted.08:38
tonyyarussoercueva, The IntelPRO Wireless a/b/g one.08:38
Evil_WhisperAll I do is launch BMP and ET and it just works08:38
tonyyarussoercueva, It's part of a Centrino set as well.08:38
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Evil_WhisperI'm using the ALSA sound driver for my card.08:39
_oP BMP?08:39
ercuevatonnyarrusso,  yes, mine is integrated... it's the IntelPRO Wirelss a/b08:39
Evil_WhisperYeah Beep Media Player08:39
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Kirk_HammettI have a ubuntu that is connected to internet, and a XP connected to ubuntu and i can't get the xp to get to internet08:39
senthilselinium, I have another problem08:39
Evil_Whisper_oP are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?08:39
ercuevatonnyarrusso, sorry, Intel PRO Wireless b/g08:39
seliniumsenthil, ok... :)08:39
ercuevatonnyarrusso, how did you get it work then?08:40
_oPubuntu breezy08:40
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senthilselinium, As i understood that from linux we can able to read NTFS partition and able to read and write Fat32 filesystem08:40
JFlashvoid^,  what is mount? is it a command?08:40
_oPall workt fine with ubuntu hoary08:40
senthilselinium, am i correct ?08:40
void^JFlash: ..yes.08:41
Evil_Whisper_oP try using the ALSA driver for your card08:41
JFlashtell JFlash about mount] [08:41
JFlashtell JFlash about mount08:41
_oPi always started xmms player with arts output and played quake and et with cmd artsdsp -m + app08:41
seliniumsenthil, sort of, linux can only read ntfs, but will right to fat/ext/blah blah blahg08:41
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isaihi08:41
JFlashubotu tell JFlash about mount08:41
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_oPhave tried that but then game starts but no sound telling me in terminal device busy08:41
shineykittyhey i was wondering how to get the ubuntu gui up?08:41
Kirk_Hammetthey, any 1 to say at least a word08:41
tonyyarussoercueva, I just had to run network-admin to specify the essid and WEP key, and it was fine.08:41
isaihow do I find out the blocksize of my partition?08:42
Evil_Whisper_oP what sound card do you have?08:42
senthilselinium, i can able to mount both the filesystem successfully08:42
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AdelsonCan I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ?08:42
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lowmancuz lowman is due :)08:42
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senthilselinium, When i attempt to open my NTFS partition its opening Fat32 file system08:42
seliniumsenthil, yes you can mount both filesystems08:42
Kirk_Hammetthehehehee08:42
_oPguess my onboard soundcard its abit an7 does not support multible soundsorce mixing08:42
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AdelsonCan I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...08:43
_oPdohh its the newest oldest there is :)08:43
Evil_Whisperwhat do you have your multimedia prefrences set to?08:43
_oP:p08:43
ercuevatonnyarrusso, I have a problem, my laptop have a button to activate/desactivate the WL connection. It doesn't work.. and with WXP it did08:43
shineykittynice name Evil_Whisper08:43
Evil_Whisperthanks08:43
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shineykittyso08:44
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seliniumsenthil, look in here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions    :) I am going to have to go very soon.08:44
abedraercueva: what kind of lapy08:44
mogoroalgun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?08:44
mogoroalgun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?08:44
shineykittyhow do i get the ubuntu gui to load08:44
_oPguess i have to buy a soundcard but dont wanna *ahh its like so m*s like08:44
AdelsonHow help me... Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...08:44
ercuevatonnyarrusso, toshiba l20-10108:44
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ercuevaabedra, tonnyarrusso08:44
shineykittyand why wont windows load when i select it from grub08:44
Evil_Whisper_oP your onboard is an Abit An7?08:44
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senthilselinium, I did the same thing but its not working :(08:44
ercuevasabedra, toshiba l20-10108:44
mogoroalgun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?08:44
_oP@Evil_Whisper, yes08:44
tonyyarussoercueva, I see.  I have a key for turning the wireless radio on/off, connected to the BIOS.  Turning it off is not problem, but I think after turning it back on I would need to reconnect through other means.08:45
Evil_WhisperIts not listed on Alsa's website the only Abit they have on there is the AU10 :(08:45
kychi I have Breezy on a Dell Inspiron 1150, but hardware acceleration does not work08:45
seliniumshineykitty, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   to restart gnome gui08:45
shineykittyoaky08:45
abedrado you have the hardware power module in the kernel?08:45
abedrafor the wifi08:45
mogoroalgun chat in Spanish? related to Ubuntu?+08:45
AdelsonHow help me... Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...08:45
seliniumsenthil, I am afraid I am not able to help, try the rest of the channel! :)   Where are you from?08:45
Evil_WhisperTry setting XMMS to use ESD08:46
Kirk_HammettAny person who know a little bit more about networks please message me08:46
ercuevatonnyarrusso, you mean mannually connect the wireless to the BIOS???? I don't get what you say...:(08:46
Kirk_HammettAny person who know a little bit more about networks please message me08:46
senthilselinium, India08:46
tonyyarussoHow can I put a blank line between entries in a grub menu?08:46
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_oP@Evil_Whisper no my mainboard is a an7 with onboard sound, dont have an extra soundcard, i had a sb 5.1 once but gave it away just blocked badly needed pci space08:46
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Evil_WhisperOhhh oops I'll check what sound chip it has08:46
kycmy graphics card is Intel 852GM/855GM08:46
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Adelsonfrom Brazil... How help me... Can I take control in a Windows machine with PcAnywhere 11 ? ? ? With Ubuntu OS of course...08:47
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shineykittynow what do i type when grub gives a grub command line when i select windows?08:47
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tonyyarussoercueva, I mean the wireless radio on/off switch is independent of the OS, same with my volume up/down and Thinklight on/off keys.08:47
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_oP6-Channel AC 97 CODEC on board08:47
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viscountwhen I upgrade my linux-kernel-image do I have to do anything to my nvidia driver?08:47
seliniumSeveas, is there an Hindi language IRC channel?08:47
Evil_WhisperAh my board has the AC97 too08:47
tonyyarussoercueva, They connect straight to hard-programmed stuff, rather than being dealt with by the OS>08:47
abedraviscount: reinstall08:47
Evil_WhisperBut I use a Sound Blaster Live! LS 5.108:47
senthilselinium, How can i contact u ?08:47
gnomefreak!hi08:48
ercuevatonnyarrusso, I supose my as well, It should be independent of the OS... but it's not recognized by ubuntu... that't wy I think I have to install ipw220008:48
ubotuhi!08:48
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gnomefreakdamn08:48
abedraercueva: ipw2200?08:48
abedramine works just fine08:48
burning_bronxI R back08:48
tonyyarussoabedra: Are there other things that would need reinstallation after a kernel upgrade?  I did one and stuff seemed fine.08:48
ercuevaabedra, yes ipw2200, am I wrong?08:48
viscountabedra, i thought so, you would think they would be smart enough to know that and make sure its done automatically instead of just killing my desktop everytime my linux kernel is updated, wouldnt you08:48
seliniumsenthil, I am in here alot of the time!08:48
abedrayes08:49
abedrabut that is not the issue08:49
senthilselinium, ok no probs08:49
viscountabedra, what is08:49
tonyyarussoercueva, Before dealing with whether it will connect you, does the key disconnect successfully?08:49
Evil_Whisper_oP what do you have your Output set to in the MMS dialog?08:49
abedrathe issue is that after the kernel upgrade the module does not link08:49
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abedraand you need to give permission to do the upgrade08:49
ercuevatonnyarrusso, the key doesn't connect nor disconnect, it simply dont work08:49
Adelsonnobory for help a brasilian....... hmmmmm....08:50
tonyyarussoercueva, Hrm.08:50
Adelsonnobody for help a brasilian....... hmmmmm....08:50
_oP@Evil_Whisper problem is that i dont seem to have the esddsp installed... ?08:50
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viscountabedra, yeah but if my mom was running ubuntu this would totally screw her up until I or someone else could come over and fix it, not nice08:50
abedraercueva: strange08:50
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ercuevatonnyarrusso, at least the led showing this, it's not switch on.....08:50
abedrayes,08:50
abedrai agree08:50
Evil_WhisperHmm? I have my output set to: ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon)08:50
Evil_Whispertry this08:50
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ercuevaabedra, yes... too strong and my wife is not happy with me...:(08:51
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_oP@Evil_Whisper at the moment i have set it to alsa, but i can use esd oss and all other, all work fine, problem is quake and et08:51
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_oP@Evil_Whisper also i have to mention esd and artsd are not running08:51
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Evil_Whisperdo you have alsaplayer-esd installed?08:51
_oPhave to start them up manualy08:52
thesaltydogburning_bronx, is there any known problem on dapper's package "locales"?08:52
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tonyyarussoercueva, You can try installing what you said if such a thing exists, and see what happens.08:52
Evil_WhisperESD automatically starts it's daemon for me on boot08:52
ercuevatonnyarrusso and abedra, I've heard that if I install ubuntu with the key turned on, it works, does it make sense?08:52
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_oPhow can i juse/ what do i have to install to use esddsp cmd?08:52
burning_bronxthesaltydog, do you have something in mind?08:52
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Evil_Whisperhold on i'll check08:52
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burning_bronxthe mozilla firefox locales break firefox08:53
abedraercueva: can you manually controll the hardware power cycle?08:53
abedrawithout the button08:53
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hussamwhy is lvm10 in universe? Is it now a necessary package?08:53
burning_bronxalso there is this issue with Xkbd and multiple layouts08:53
thesaltydogburning_bronx, no, it won't upgrade on my system08:53
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ercuevaabedra, no idea.... what do you mean?08:53
burning_bronxah thesaltydog...08:53
dailyrorschachI noticed there hasn't been much update on the laptop page, anyone here running ubuntu on a dell d600?08:53
_oPi can enter esd at cmd but no esddsp for starting appz08:53
dailyrorschachlatitude08:53
burning_bronxhave you tried removing locales, upgrading and reinstalling them?08:53
Evil_Whisper_oP do you have libesd-alsa0 installed?08:53
viscountabedra, I dont see any option for --reinstall in man, been a while since i've had to do it, can you tell me the command for apt to reinstall nvidia?08:54
abedraviscount: I use nvidia's08:54
thesaltydogburning_bronx, it doen't remove. Cannot remove old one.. maybe forcing?08:54
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viscountabarbaccia, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?08:55
Evil_WhisperI typed esddsp in console and get invalid command08:55
burning_bronxcan't you remove it with synaptic?08:55
abarbacciaviscount, wrong person08:55
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ercuevatonnyarrusso, thanks a million.. what I'll do is tring to install the ipw2200 stuff, if not, I'll forced to install M$ windows XP...:(08:55
tonyyarussoercueva, Possibly.08:55
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diegoi need some help with xorg08:55
viscountabarbaccia, sorry08:56
diegoi cant get the refresh rate that i want08:56
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Evil_Whispertry this _oP08:56
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diegoWW) I810(0): config file hsync range 56.4-56.4kHz not within DDC hsync range 30-55kHz08:56
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revhow can I force make to report errors in english language?08:56
diegoi need to ignore the ddc timings that the i810 autodetect08:57
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tonyyarussorev: I heard that you can put a language variable at the beginning of the line for that.08:57
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tonyyarussorev: Something like Lang=en_US make yadayada.08:58
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revtonyyarusso: yup, works, thanks :)08:58
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tonyyarussorev: Sweet.08:58
Evil_Whisper_oP if you dont have XMMS open sound works in ET right?08:59
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Stormx2Hey all08:59
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Evil_Whisper_oP to get esddsp install esound-clients08:59
Evil_Whispersudo apt-get install esound-clients08:59
burning_bronxwow how cool - dbus conflicts with libdbus and therefore makes vlc uninstallable08:59
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mike-e!codec09:00
ubotumike-e: I don't know, could you explain it?09:00
mike-e!codecs09:00
burning_bronxcool stuff09:00
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories09:00
mike-e!easysource09:00
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:00
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mike-e!poop09:00
ubotumike-e: I don't know, could you explain it?09:00
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Evil_Whisper_oP you get that/09:00
Evil_Whisper?09:00
Kirk_Hammettshey Evil_Whisper09:00
Kirk_Hammettpls09:01
Kirk_Hammettneed some time09:01
Kirk_Hammettgot any?09:01
Dr_Willishmm09:01
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diegoplease some help i neet to work in 70hz and im only getting 60hz09:01
mike-ewtf09:01
rikaiis there a guide for switching to dapper? i've got a system i want to sue jsut to mess around with, and perhaps file some bug reports. is it jsut a matter of switching all instances of "hoardy" with "dapper" in the sources.list?09:01
mike-ewhats with this source-o-matic crap09:01
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mike-eit said it generated a new list but i don't see one09:02
tonyyarussoIs it possible to pause and restart an apt-get install while it's downloading?09:02
_oP@Evil_Whisper sorry had to look up what i have drunk09:02
goosei'm getting an update notification for linux-kernel-2.6.12-10-k7 but that's what is already installed on my system. any ideas??09:02
burning_bronxrikai, you just change all hoary to dapper and then do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:02
_oPcool i will try that , and yes everything works with sound if i play them alone09:02
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rikaiburning_bronx, after a sudo apt-get update, i'm assuming? ;)09:03
tonyyarussorikai: I think you have to go through breezy first, then to dapper, from hoary, or some people have reported running into issues.09:03
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burning_bronxrikai, of course09:03
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rikaitonyyarusso, err, i actually meant breezy, briain died for a second.09:03
Kirk_HammettANY 1 FREE TO HELP ME WITH SOME LAN PROBLEMS09:03
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tonyyarussoburning_bronx, Am I right in my thought above?09:03
Kirk_Hammettsorry to write in UC09:03
Dr_WillisKirk_Hammett,  you may want not DO THAT..09:04
tonyyarussorikai, Ah, then no problem.09:04
burning_bronxtonyyarusso, I haven't done it so I couldn't know if issues exist09:04
burning_bronxbut you could be right09:04
_oP@Evil_Whisper giving it a try :)09:04
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DonVincenzowhy, while the kubuntu 1.3.7 package exists, the version downloaded with apt-get is the 1.3.1 ??09:04
revmaybe someone can tell me whats missing here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/603209:04
mike-eis seveas's repository down?09:04
tonyyarussoburning_bronx, Okay.  Moot point in this case anyway.09:04
rikaiDonVincenzo, because it hasnt been backported, most likely.09:04
odatanyone able to help get an old Aureal A3D sound card working09:04
Stormx2mike-e: It comes off his computer, and he's offline09:05
tonyyarussomike-e: It was the other day, not sure about now.09:05
fluvvellKirk_Hammett, tell us your woes09:05
Seveas!tell mike-e about seveas09:05
rikaiodat, heh, i used to have one of those, it's a good card, although, i havent used it in a while, so no. :/09:05
Stormx2Aw man09:05
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mike-e=P09:05
Stormx2Last time i checked !seveas it was not set, so i set it to "sexy"09:05
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_oP@Evil_Whisper started esd and set xmms to esd output started game with esddsp that is what i get ------- sound initialization -------09:06
_oPSorry but your soundcard can't do this09:06
_oP*ahhh09:06
SeveasStormx2, which is a bannable action09:06
_oP*.lol09:06
Stormx2Seveas: it wasn't set :(09:06
fluvvell!tell fluvvell about networking09:06
Seveas!tell Stormx2 about bot abuse09:06
_oPguess i am the first getting this error with quake09:06
_oPlol09:06
_oPi hate abi*09:06
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odatanyone know what the command is to configure alsa  i forget09:07
SeveasStormx2, by the way: are you related to stormx1?09:07
Stormx2Seveas: I'm his evil twin brother09:07
tonyyarussoStormx2, How do you set things like that?  (Or, is there a listing of neat tricks like that and * action lines?)09:07
burning_bronxroflmfao09:07
burning_bronxsigh09:07
SeveasStormx2, look at the ban list; if you're the evil one, why are you still here :)09:07
_oP@Evil_Whisper Sorry but your soundcard can't do this09:07
Stormx2tonyyarusso: its "no, <blaa> is <whatever>"09:07
occyAnyone know how to get metacity to display the window size while you are resizing it?09:08
Seveasubotu, tell tonyyarusso about yourself09:08
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odat?09:08
Stormx2Seveas: Stormx was taken :-(09:08
tonyyarussoOr, Seveas, can you answer my previous question to Stormx2 perhaps?09:08
Stormx2tonyyarusso: He did. Check your messages from ubotu09:08
dsis dapper usable at the present time?09:09
Stormx2Yep09:09
burning_bronxsudo mount /dev/girlfriend /media/phone09:09
Stormx2Havn't tried it myself though09:09
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Stormx2burning_bronx: XD~~~09:09
burning_bronxsudo sh phonesex09:09
tonyyarussoStormx2 and Seveas: Thanks.09:09
burning_bronx>.>09:09
Stormx2burning_bronx: "I don't know how to phonesex" xD09:09
dsso nothing flamingly broken09:09
mike-esource-o-matic is about as useful as tits on a bull09:10
h4xwhere does the aptitude program put the downloaded files .deb?09:10
Stormx2burning_bronx: "Broken pipe"09:10
burning_bronx>.>09:10
Stormx2burning_bronx: "Can't mount"09:10
burning_bronx>.>09:10
h4xlol09:10
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SeveasStormx2, burning_bronx -> #ubuntu-offtopic09:10
trappisth4x: /var/cache/apt/archives09:10
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burning_bronxtrappist, your speedtyping owns mine09:11
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odatanyone remember the command to configure alsa?09:11
kyccould someone help me with hardware video on dell inspiron 1150?09:11
trappistalsaconf, if only it shipped with ubuntu09:11
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siriuskrcan ubuntu use the new X.org versions that came out yesterday ?09:12
tonyyarussoodat: Might be alsa-config.09:12
Seveassiriuskr, it already does09:12
siriuskrits already useing the new versions ?09:12
Seveasyes09:12
siriuskrhow09:12
odattonyyarusso, nah tried that09:12
tonyyarussoodat, I'm wrong.09:12
Seveastodays updates09:12
Evil_Whisperhow can you tell the version of xorg your using?09:12
siriuskrit came out yesterday i didnt see a X11org update09:12
trappistthat's insane09:13
siriuskrwas it the new kernal ?09:13
SeveasEvil_Whisper, if you run breezy: Xorg 7 prerelease, if you run dapper Xorg 709:13
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_oP@Evil_Whisper have pity with a newbie09:13
ubuntuHi09:13
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Stormx2Hi ubuntu09:13
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Stormx2Hi mattias09:13
tonyyarussoodat: Try alsaconf09:13
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matte_gSo09:13
Stormx2Hi matte_g09:13
Stormx2o.O09:14
matte_gI have booted the live cd09:14
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matte_gand wonder if its possible to use that to install the system to my harddrive09:14
_oPSorry but your soundcard can't do this09:14
_oPahhhhhhhhhhhhhh09:14
Evil_Whisperlol09:14
tonyyarussoodat: Provided you have it installed.09:14
coNPmatte_g, do you have the install cd too?09:14
matte_gcoNP, No09:14
Stormx2matte_g: I know thats going to be included in dapper, not sure if its in breezy09:14
matte_gThats the problem09:14
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tonyyarussomatte_g, I don't believe so.  Use the install CD.09:15
trappistSeveas: do you have package names?  I'm sure not seeing it on breezy09:15
matte_gSo I have to burn the install cd?09:15
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tonyyarussomatte_g, Or, use the Live CD to download an install ISO, and install from that.09:15
odattonyyarusso, i do09:15
Seveastrappist, it'll never be on breezy09:15
trappistthat sounds more like it.  I misunderstood you then.09:15
tonyyarussomatte_g, I think you can install from an ISO on the hard disk, but I'm not sure how that works.  Anyone?09:15
Seveas:)09:15
inodnsodnhi guys i have an ibm thinkpad t42 and trying to instal breezy badger. the installation goes into a blank screen right after i hit enter and few pages of come n then poof blank screen. does anyone have a solution to this?09:15
JFlashwhy does Nautilus tells me my RW cd is a read-only disk???09:15
matte_gtonyyarusso, Im on the live cd now09:16
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tonyyarussomatte_g, Once you've downloaded one.09:16
matte_gNp I found a clean cd I can use09:16
inodnsodnhi guys i have an ibm thinkpad t42 and trying to instal breezy badger. the installation goes into a blank screen right after boot when i hit enter and few pages of code come n then poof blank screen. does anyone have a solution to this?09:16
matte_gSO I can burn a install cd09:16
Dr_WillisJFlash,  you expect to use it as a large floppy drive?09:16
_oP@all what u think, give it a try http://www.konstruktiv.org/q3jack/09:16
tonyyarussomatte_g, Right.  And obviously online, so you can download an image, and then you'll be set.09:17
Evil_WhisperI would recommend going back to your sound blaster _oP09:17
matte_gI know how to do09:17
inodnsodnhey guys anyone has a clue about my problem? id be grateful thanks09:17
matte_gIm running slackware on my computer :) This is my brothers :)09:17
_oP@Evil_Whisper *.sniff i gave it away for a birthday present09:17
matte_gIntroducing him to the linux world09:17
Anth0ny_anyone who can recommend a tool to secure nfs traffic?09:18
Seveasnfs over ssh?09:18
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Anth0ny_Seveas, Is it possible to tunnel NFS/UDP over SSH?09:18
SeveasNFS/TCP would be possible09:18
SeveasNFS/UDP sucks anyway in linux09:19
matte_gWhich burning app does ubuntu have?09:19
Seveaslots09:19
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matte_gany front end for cdrecord?09:19
Seveasgnomebaker, graveman, kubuntu09:19
Seveaskubuntu>>09:19
Seveask3b!09:19
Anth0ny_which ports to tunnel in order to use NFS through TCP?09:19
sethkmatte_g, k3b09:19
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matte_gsethk, Ok09:19
_oPokay, never mind i can still play quake and enemy territoy with xmms running but no in game sounds , damn that is okay :)09:19
matte_gCool09:19
sethkAnth0ny_, NFS has a TCP option.  No tunneling09:19
coNPSeveas, apt-get some coffee09:19
Seveasneh09:20
Seveasmount /sys/mouth /dev/coffeemachine09:20
_oPsomeone know how to set up a q3tv server ? wanna stream my server, is there a howto ?09:20
tonyyarussomatte_g, If you mean what's installed by default, I don't know.  I use gnomebaker.09:20
blue-frog_oP, choose another audio output plugin in xmms pref09:20
matte_gOk09:21
matte_gI have to burn the iso from the live cd09:21
sethkmatte_g, there really is nothing easier than burning an iso using cdrecord09:21
Stormx2matte_g: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto09:22
Stormx2matte_g: Look in the "ubuntu" section09:22
matte_gI know how to burn but my brother want a gui09:22
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foxpaulhi all. is it possible to use ubuntu breezy with WPA wireless?09:22
Stormx2matte_g: For burning? yeah you can use that guide >.<09:22
_oP@blue-frog tried alsa oss and even artsd Received signal 11, exiting...09:22
_oP*.mahhhh09:23
matte_ghmm fdisk /dev/hda gives Unable to open /dev/hda09:23
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matte_gBut I know Igot a ide hard drivee as hda09:23
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matte_gwhat can be wrong?09:23
psycosematte_g, sudo ...09:23
matte_goh09:23
blue-frog_oP, tough luck09:23
matte_gright09:23
tonyyarussofoxpaul, There's an extra package for WPA, but yes.09:23
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JFlashDr_Willis, indeed!!09:23
foxpaultonyyarusso, do you know what the package is? and do you still use the gnome network gui to config it?09:23
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cdubyafoxpaul, wpasupplicant09:24
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psycosematte_g, well may be you would like to try cfdisk .... may be not ...09:24
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h4xcan somebody go to http://mcmcc.bat.ru/xmms-wma/ and see what plugin i would need for xmms to support wma. I am using Linux ubunto 2.6.12-10-38609:24
_oPsomeone know how to set up a QuakeTV Client?09:24
jc-dentonQuakeTV?09:24
Stormx2h4x: Check seveas's repo09:24
cdubyafoxpaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto?highlight=%28wpa%2909:24
tonyyarussofoxpaul: cdubya's package, not sure about the configuration, but probably yes.09:24
Stormx2h4x: He has a wma plugin there.09:24
cdubyafoxpaul, good luck. that's all I can say.09:25
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cdubyaI didn't have such luck.09:25
_oP@jc-denton yes allowes u to connect on a server to spectate a game without09:25
_oPbeing connected on the server where the game is played09:25
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learnfromscratchhuh.. i want to install gtk to learn the hello world gtk stuff.. and more .. so i did apt-cache search gtk | less to figure out which package to install .. it reports too many.. can some one tell me a better way to screen for a package that i need to install09:26
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Stormx2learnfromscratch: i didn't think GTK was a language >.<09:26
Comrade_Vladimiris there a support channel for windows?09:26
Stormx2Comrade_Vladimir: Try #windows09:26
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psycoselearnfromscratch well you could use synaptic also ....09:27
matte_gWith cfdisk it says my hda2 partittion is Linux what would the fs type be when mounting? I tried ext and ext309:28
senthilselinium, Hi I would like to know how to install java plugins from firefox09:28
_oP@Comrade_Vladimir yes, its called going to cash automate09:28
burning_bronxwindows are made of glass09:28
burning_bronxglass breaks easy09:28
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burning_bronxtherefore windows break easy09:29
senthil selinium, Hi I would like to know how to install java plugins for firefox09:29
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Stormx2!tell senthil about java09:29
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matte_gWhat -t fstype would I specify when booting a ext3 or ext2 hard drive?09:29
Anth0ny_ubotu, !install kernel09:30
ubotuAnth0ny_: Bugger all, i dunno09:30
Anth0ny_ubotu, !install source09:30
ubotuAnth0ny_: Are you on ritalin?09:30
tonyyarussomatte_g, 0x8309:30
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Anth0ny_how do I install the kernel source for kubuntu?09:30
matte_gmount: unknown filesystem type '0x83'09:30
trappistAnth0ny_: linux-source09:30
Evil_Whispe1Ah much better :-)09:30
Evil_Whispe1aww what the heck09:30
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matte_gtonyyarusso, Dont seem to be working09:31
Anth0ny_trappist, thx09:31
psycosematte_g ext3 or ext2 ;-)09:31
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Evil_Whisperthats better09:31
matte_gext3 I guess09:31
Evil_WhisperGaim IRC is better then Xchat :-)09:31
matte_girssi FTW09:31
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coNPEvil_Whisper, why do you say thaT?09:31
dydimustkif I can't get the synaptics package manager to run, where can I find it to run it as root?09:31
leonI upgraded from hoary to breezy and somehow I have ended up with openoffice 1 and 2 on my puter. They dont play nice togerther. What do package do I need to remove?09:32
_oP@Evil_Whisper, yes how do i install gaim irc chat ?09:32
Evil_WhisperI dunno I'm just used to using gaim09:32
trappistdydimustk: sudo synaptic09:32
matte_gpsycose, It it a ext3 I guess09:32
coNPdydimustk, enter: $ which synaptic09:32
Evil_WhisperDid you get that _oP?09:32
psycosematte_g, so put ext3  ;-) -t ext309:32
Anth0ny_trappist, it tells me that I should choose between: linux-source-2.6.12 2.6.12-10.25, but none of them matches "uname -a"09:32
matte_git wont work09:32
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tonyyarussomatte_g, Try it as just 83.  I'm not sure what the 0x does.09:32
coNPEvil_Whisper, gaim doesn't know transparency, do it?09:33
ettkommanolli have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally. i can not use a floppy drive.09:33
trappistAnth0ny_: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`09:33
Evil_WhisperIf you use Xcompmgr it does09:33
Evil_WhisperXchat doesnt use transparency for me09:33
_oP@Evil_Whisper just joking, wanna stress u a little :))09:33
tonyyarussomatte_g, Or what psycose said; I'm not sure how smart it is.09:33
Evil_WhisperLol09:33
Evil_WhisperWait crap a new kernel installed how can I tell wich one installed?09:33
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ettkommanolli have an install issue with ubuntu 5.10, it just won't load when set to 1st boot-device = cdrom. my old win98oem fires up normally. i can not use a floppy drive.09:33
Anth0ny_trappist, E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-10-38609:34
psycosematte_g, may be i missundestood what you wanted  to do ;-)09:34
Evil_Whisperis there some way I can check wich one just downloaded?09:34
matte_gpsycose, mount a harddrive09:34
thesaltydogburning_bronx, I had to modify the preinst file in the locales .deb package to let it install.09:34
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_oPlol that is good one :))09:34
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gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  are you using breezy?09:34
Evil_Whisper?09:34
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Evil_WhisperYeah09:34
psycosematte_g, with the mount command ? so i'm good i think09:34
bunglehi09:34
matte_gyes with the mount command dont know any other way09:35
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Evil_WhisperI just enabled backports and did a apt-get update09:35
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burning_bronxthesaltydog, it worked eh?09:35
Evil_Whisperand then installed updates through gnome updater thingy09:35
dydimustkthanks trappist09:35
thesaltydogyes now it works. I posted here the mod: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2141909:35
thesaltydogbut I still have the problem on firefox.09:35
trappistAnth0ny_: sorry, I forgot the source is platform-independent.  linux-source-2.6.1209:35
_oPdid that so often but cant remember :p09:35
psycosematte_g, if you had read the man pages you would see that you should use -t ext309:35
thesaltydogburning_bronx, is italian firefox localization in dapper a known bug? It won't upgrade from breezy..09:36
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matte_gmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,09:36
matte_g       missing codepage or other error09:36
matte_g       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try09:36
matte_g       dmesg | tail  or so09:36
matte_gsorry for long paste09:36
leonto unintall openoffice1 do i purge or remove openoffice.org?09:36
trappistdon't do that.09:36
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gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  type gedit /boot.grub.menu.lst thats a read only file09:36
gnomefreakshit09:36
gnomefreakoops09:36
Evil_Whisperok09:36
Anth0ny_trappist, thanks a lot09:36
dan1I am having trouble installing Unreal tournament on ubuntu; it says the disk is not not mounted. if anyone has experience in this help would be apreaciated09:36
gnomefreak/boot/grub/menu.lst09:36
lowmanthesaltydog: are you upgrading firefox? or trying to?09:37
matte_gis there any gui for mount?09:37
psycosematte_g, if you do a $ sudo cfdisk /dev/hda          what info it gives for hda1 ?09:37
matte_gMy brother wonders09:37
dan1firefox is awesom09:37
thesaltydoglowman, I am trying...09:37
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Evil_Whispergnomefreak I dont have a seperate boot partition09:37
Evil_Whisperwhere would it be09:37
Evil_Whisper?09:37
matte_g hda1                    Primary   Linux                           123519,0309:37
lowmanto 1.5? thesaltydog?09:37
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thesaltydogfrom breexy to dapper09:37
burning_bronxthesaltydog, most firefox locales in dapper would cause your firefox to crash09:37
psycosematte_g, display me the line you used to mount hda109:38
lowmanoh..okay I just stepped in on this conversation I did catch it all sorry :|09:38
burning_bronxI suggest screw them.09:38
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_oP@Evil_Whisper You could stat out the directory's in /lib/modules/ and that should give09:38
_oPyou all the kernels, unless you do a monolithic kernel with no modules!09:38
_oP:)09:38
thesaltydogit doen't crash. It has been removed and won't install due to the mozilla-firefox-locale-it09:38
gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  im not sure but i can tell you it was 2.6.12-10 but a revised version of it it didnt add a seprate entry for it it09:38
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matte_gsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/download/09:38
Evil_Whisperok09:38
thesaltydoglowman, so I have no firefox in dapper.09:38
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burning_bronxthesaltydog, just remove firefox locales and install/upgrade firefox09:39
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SweetestSavageHello, could anyone explain this error to me: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ??09:39
Evil_WhisperWould I gain any performance using a 686 kernel or k7 kernel on a AMD Athlon XP 2800+?09:39
gnomefreakim not real sure why the backports updated the 2.6.12-10 kernel this am09:39
lowmandid you try backing up you .mozilla dir and then try reinstalling it salty?09:39
_oPalso there is a cmd but i cant resume it09:39
_oP:p09:39
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, I think k7 would be better for you09:39
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matte_gpsycose, I did paste it a bit uppwards09:39
thesaltydogI did. But when you try to install firefox, the system knows that your locale is italian and try again to install the buggy file. So it breaks.09:39
lowmanback it up then delete the existing one09:39
benplauti'm having a problem with verticle gnome-panels... the tasklist's text doesn't rotate =/09:39
burning_bronxanyway performance improvement would be unnoticeable09:39
Evil_WhisperCould I install it without messing stuff up?09:39
matte_gpsycose,  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/download/09:39
gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  it installed fine this am for me09:40
burning_bronxI am running AMD Sempron 3000+ with the K709:40
Evil_Whisperwhat would i do to install it?09:40
burning_bronxworks fine09:40
burning_bronxsmooth as a dog09:40
burning_bronx>.>09:40
Dr_WillisMy dogs are not smooth.09:40
gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  did you run apt-get upgrade?09:40
burning_bronxwhat dog you have?09:40
Dr_Willisthey are all furry and fluffy :P09:40
Evil_WhisperYeah09:40
psycosematte_g, thinking ...09:40
Dr_Willis4 Pomerianians...09:40
matte_gok09:40
lowman<--2 pomeranians :)09:40
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, get the K7 - it should be best for you09:41
Evil_WhisperI'm running the stock 386 kernel right now09:41
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Evil_Whisperwhat would I type using apt-get to get it?09:41
gnomefreakthan just reboot but that is what bothered me it didnt ask me to reboot09:41
lowman<--one wiener dog and a blue russian cat09:41
Evil_Whisperand then could I safely trash the 386 kernel?09:41
Dr_Willisweiner dogs are always fun.09:41
burning_bronxdon't trash the 38609:41
psycosematte_g, have you done a $ sudo  mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1             to create your partition ?09:41
gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  if your talking the k7 that i dont know09:41
burning_bronxyou should leave them both just in case something messes up - so you can go back to the 38609:41
burning_bronx:P09:41
Evil_Whisperor at least turn off the grub menu so that It auto boots into k7?09:41
gnomefreaki use the 386 kernels09:41
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, search for linux-image in synaptic09:42
lowmanthis wiener dog is a puppy..my wife brought home from work..is a pain in the (_!_)09:42
burning_bronxlinux-image k7 would find all things needed09:42
burning_bronxthen install the latest image09:42
burning_bronx~_~09:42
Dr_WillisWe had 2 Poms.. wife decided to get  2 more 'for her'09:42
matte_gpsycose, :) Forgot the simpliest thing wtf09:42
matte_gThanks09:42
gnomefreakwhats the difference between 386 and k7?09:42
psycosematte_g, pleasure ;-)09:42
lowmanmy female is pregnant ..want more?09:42
burning_bronxk7 is AMD specific09:42
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lowmanckc registered09:42
benplautanyone know of a good starter guide to vi[m] ?09:42
burning_bronxin theory it should give him better performance09:42
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benplautand shut up, emac'ers09:43
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gnomefreakoh ok ty09:43
Dr_Willisbenplaut,  run 'vimtutor'09:43
lowmanbenplaut i believe it comes with a tutorial built in09:43
benplautthanks09:43
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Evil_Whisperok I'm currently doing an apt-get install linux-k709:43
hid3Evening everyne. I run an ftp server with 2.6 kernel. Sometimes, when server is loaded, I see 'wa' using all my cpu power. However, this happens only sometimes. Is there any way to find out what causes it to use cpu so much?09:43
burning_bronxthen 386 is fine for you ;)09:43
lowmanvimtutor or something09:43
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gnomefreakthats what i was thiking too i just didnt knwo what made k7 different09:43
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Evil_Whisper2.6.12-10-k7?09:44
Randomnick33lol getting a nick on this server is a pain09:44
PassoinLimI have probluem in /usr partition. I wanna format it, and restore its data. How can i do it?09:44
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, that should be it - for breezy09:44
Evil_Whisperok09:44
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psycosegnomefreak on synaptic you can read about the package description, ....  written there...09:44
cmathesonPassoinLim: what kind of problem?09:44
Evil_WhisperIt wont mess up my nvidia drivers will it?09:44
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burning_bronxyeh09:44
trappisthid3: 'wa' is i/o wait.  that usually happens when there's a lot of i/o activity such as disk or network activity, and data's not moving as fast as an app expects it to.09:45
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=== burning_bronx using the good "old" 2.6.15-9-k7 kernel
burning_bronx:P09:45
PassoinLimcmatheson, It could not be recovered when computer booting up.09:45
_oPcheers! reaching out for some good booz, wondering why i can` t like rescue the liquer wich previously got spilled, of my ellbows?09:45
cmathesonPassoinLim: the file-system is corrupted?09:45
burning_bronxcuttung edge B)09:45
gnomefreakburning_bronx,  thats dappers kernel isnt it?09:45
Randomnick33Em I was just wondering if Ubuntu will be able to recognize and run with my modem?09:45
Evil_Whisperdo I have to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable again?09:45
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burning_bronxyeh09:45
PassoinLimcmatheson, I think so.09:45
cmathesonPassoinLim: did you fsck it?09:45
burning_bronxand it currently owns the world09:45
Evil_WhisperBe right back gonna boot into the new kernel09:45
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gnomefreakyeah see dapper didnt work for me last time i tried to upgrade09:46
rootRandomnick33 Em I was just wondering if Ubuntu will be able to recognize and run with my modem?.....which'09:46
burning_bronxkernel 2.6.15 >= world09:46
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rootunstable09:46
Randomnick33Its a speedtouch... something or other09:46
burning_bronxgnomefreak, I never understood people with problems on upgrade09:46
hid3trappist: the matter is that let's say today my server uploads @ 18 mB/s and wa usage is nearly 15 %, but yesterday it uploaded at about 17 mB/s and wa usage was ~90% (no download or other apps running). I'd say it is quite strange..09:46
burning_bronxthen again I've been using Dapper since the project start09:46
blue-frogroot09:46
rooti have a pctel modem working09:46
roothsp5609:46
gnomefreakburning_bronx,  xchat and the sources wouldnt work after upgrade09:46
PassoinLimcmatheson, nope, i have an exprience when fsck corrupt my filesystem. i've lost whole data at that time. So, i didn't try it in this time.09:46
rootmicromodem09:47
blue-frogRandomnick33, with eagle-usb should work09:47
Randomnick33ic09:47
burning_bronxgnomefreak, I am chatting with xchat 2.6.009:47
gnomefreakme too09:47
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gnomefreak:)09:47
Randomnick33I guess it should work fine09:47
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gnomefreakbackports have 2.609:47
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cmathesonPassoinLim: if you can't recover the fs w/ fsck then you're going to have to reinstall... just backup the data you don't want to lose first09:47
burning_bronxyeh but you got it from backports09:47
TaliskerHi, I've just installed a new WM, and now I want to add it to gdm, where do I do that?09:47
burning_bronxI got it from dapper repos09:47
burning_bronx~_~;09:47
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bluefusionxlhey guys09:47
lowmanis that any good burning_bronx?09:47
bluefusionxlcan anyone here help me with ndiswrapper?09:47
trappisthid3: I'd say it's probably timing.  if a huge, fast upload is happening at the same time another app wants to access data, it'll exacerbate the situation.09:48
burning_bronxit is of course09:48
cmathesonTalisker: how did you install the wm? if you did it w/ apt then it should have been added automatically09:48
burning_bronxit owns.09:48
=== gnomefreak doesnt really see much change in 2.4 and 2.6 xchat
Randomnick33well thanks anyways, bbl lol09:48
PassoinLimcmatheson, thanks. :)09:48
gooSo, are there any (unofficial) repositories that has X11R7.0 yet?09:48
Taliskercmatheson, I've built it myself, it's apt package is old and broken09:48
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psycosebluefusionxl, can try .... ;-)09:48
blue-frogbluefusionxl, where r u stuck?09:48
bluefusionxlokay well everything went fine on ndiswrapper, but I go to the modules...09:48
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lowmanhmm gonna check it out...brb09:49
Evil_Whisperok I'm back09:49
burning_bronxgoo, the latest X.org RC is on the dapper repos but - waiting for devs to get the official release09:49
Evil_Whisperit booted using the K7 kernel09:49
bluefusionxland it said: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko) : Invalid Argument09:49
cmathesonTalisker: hmm, in that case i would guess the easiest way would be to take apart the old package and just still the gdm conf part from there... otherwise read the gdm docs or else just use your ~/.xsession to start09:49
PassoinLimcmatheson, do you know any program for backup conveniently??09:49
SweetestSavageCan someone please help me with this: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory09:49
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, cool eh?09:49
Evil_Whisperbut how do I tell if its better performance or worse?09:49
cmathesonPassoinLim: hmm, i've always just used tar09:49
burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, told you - you wouldn't notice the difference09:49
burning_bronxmaybe a milisecond or two09:49
bluefusionxldid you get that?09:49
burning_bronxxD09:49
gooburning_bronx: ok, thanks!09:49
Taliskercmatheson, it's very easy to start, I just need to know where can I find the file with the list of sessions09:49
Evil_WhisperSo whats the point of upgrading then? :P09:49
psycosebluefusionxl, what command did you use ?09:49
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burning_bronxwho said there's any point?09:49
burning_bronxxD09:49
gnomefreaklol09:50
bluefusionxlFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko) : Invalid Argument09:50
burning_bronxyou asked how09:50
bluefusionxloh yeah09:50
Evil_Whisperwow so all that was pointless? xD09:50
bluefusionxllet me see09:50
burning_bronxyou didn't ask "should I"09:50
cmathesonPassoinLim: for instance... to backup your home dir you could do 'tar jpcvf home.tar.bz2 $HOME'09:50
nicodeinhi, I'm using the ubuntu-amd64, and I guess I'm lacking some fonts (especially in xmms menus). Any idea how I could fix that ?09:50
Evil_Whisperrofl09:50
burning_bronx:)09:50
bluefusionxlmodprobe ndiswrapper09:50
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burning_bronxEvil_Whisper, just go with the k709:50
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cmathesonTalisker: i would guess it's in /etc/gdm, but i'm not sure... i would say the docs would be your best bet for this one09:50
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burning_bronxat least I feel better with a kernel built for my processor09:50
gnomefreakdoes dappers kernel support same drivers as breezy just with more?09:50
burning_bronx:)09:50
Anth0ny_trappist, I installed the linux-source, but in /usr/src I see only a single .tar.bz2 file. Should I unpack it manually?09:50
psycosebluefusionxl, what ndiswrapper -l shows ?09:50
burning_bronxdriver support in dapper is a killer09:50
burning_bronx:)09:50
burning_bronxowns.09:51
PassoinLimcmatheson, Thanks09:51
cmathesonAnth0ny_: unpack it 'tar jxvf whatever.tar.bz2'09:51
cmathesonPassoinLim: no problem09:51
gnomefreaki wondering if the kernel doesnt support my nic card09:51
burning_bronxthe only reason I wouldn't recommend you installing dapper is cause when it breaks you would blame me09:51
gnomefreakthats why nothing was working09:51
burning_bronxxD09:51
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gnomefreakburning_bronx, i tried it a while ago09:51
Anth0ny_cmatheson, thanks09:51
gnomefreaklol09:52
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bluefusionxlhold on09:52
bluefusionxlchecking09:52
burning_bronxgnomefreak, just change the sources for dapper repos and dist-upgrade >.>09:52
burning_bronxbut then don't blame me!09:52
kemikburning_bronx:  dapper has recent ATI drivers too +09:52
burning_bronxand recent SiS drivers >.>09:52
burning_bronxyeh - dapper has it all09:52
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burning_bronxall the cutting edge stuff09:52
Evil_WhisperWill dapper be stable enough to use without breaking before April?09:52
gnomefreakbut burning_bronx the last time i did i think i didnt have a net connection so id like to find out first if that was the issue09:52
kemikEvil_Whisper:  you never know09:52
kemikEvil_Whisper:  that's why it's the 'unstable' branch09:53
gnomefreakEvil_Whisper,  if it is than it wont be til march lol09:53
burning_bronxbut it also has broken dependencies, apps getting killed for no reason and all that neat stuff unstable releases posess09:53
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SmartUnixhi09:53
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kemikburning_bronx:  yeah . features09:54
kemik:>09:54
SmartUnixplease i have problem with install ubuntu09:54
TaliskerOk, appearently I need to create a .desktop file09:54
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Taliskerbut where should I create it?09:54
Randomnick33lol back again09:54
burning_bronxSmartUnix, what's your problem?09:55
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Evil_WhisperAnyone here experienced with running steam with CVS Cedega?09:55
kemikTalisker:  in your ~/ perhaps09:55
bluefusionxlok it says net8180 driver present09:55
Randomnick33I was wondering whether it would be best to disconnect my modem during the install?09:55
SmartUnixi created Ext3 partiton with MagicPartiton09:55
burning_bronxRandomnick33, why would you do that?09:55
Randomnick33well09:55
Stormx2So, whats ubuntu 6.10 going to be called?09:55
burning_bronxit's 6.0409:56
psycosebluefusionxl, be kind and put the nickname of the people you are talking to before your sentence09:56
burning_bronxit's year.month09:56
Evil_WhisperDapper Drake09:56
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Randomnick33It has an install disk which quite clearly sayd to be used before connecting the modem to your pc09:56
burning_bronx(200)6.0409:56
Stormx2No, Thats 6.0409:56
Stormx2I meant 6.1009:56
Stormx2>.<09:56
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Evil_Whisperwhats the diffrence?09:56
burning_bronxah09:56
burning_bronx6.10 is too far ahead09:56
Stormx26.10 is 6 months later?09:56
Stormx2I want Perky Penguin :(09:56
kemiki want less lame names09:56
Evil_Whisperlol that would be a great name for the next one09:56
SmartUnixand when i try to install ubuntu , it's show for me partiton list (included Ext3 partition) i choose to format Ext3 partiton09:56
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Stormx2Dapper Drake is a bad name, if you ask me09:57
Evil_WhisperI thought dapper was going to be supported for 3 years?09:57
SmartUnixthen format installer show for me this "no file system is defined."09:57
stuart_Hello. I am trying to update Firefox to 1.5. I am using Archive Manager. Where do I extract the files to?09:57
Stormx2!tell stuart_ about ff1.509:57
kemik!tell me about ff1.509:57
x_dapperI be running the 6.04  just got it in last night09:57
Evil_Whisper!tell me about ff1.509:57
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Stormx2stuart_: Follow the instuctions in the wiki and it will work fine. I installed ff1.5 today.09:58
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kemikStormx2:  ff1.5 didnt work09:58
kemik=)09:58
Stormx2Didn't it?09:58
Stormx2ack09:58
Evil_Whisper!tell me about ff1.509:58
stuart_What wiki?09:58
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Evil_Whisper!tell me about firefox09:58
Stormx2!firefox1.509:58
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:58
Stormx2There09:58
Stormx2That one09:58
stuart_Thanks09:58
Stormx2Use that link09:58
stuart_SOrry, very new to this09:58
SmartUnixany help09:58
Stormx2My fault09:58
Randomnick33so any advice on the modem thing? Leave it in or take it out to install post ubuntu set up?09:58
Stormx2Forgot it.09:58
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ordinarysomeone help me change my keyboard layout please09:59
kemikah great! " The Totem video plugin doesn't seem to work with firefox 1.5" .. i consider Totem a bug in ubuntu anywys =)09:59
Stormx2Randomnick33L What is the problem?09:59
psycosebluefusionxl, have you done $ sudo  modprobe ndiswrapper  or   $ modprobe ndiswrapper  or #  modprobe ndiswrapper  ?09:59
Randomnick33It has an install disk which quite clearly sayd to be used before connecting the modem to your pc09:59
Stormx2kemik: I consider them both bugs.09:59
yassinecan we use pocket pc with ubuntu?09:59
kemikStormx2:  Firefox too ?09:59
yassinesync09:59
Stormx2yassine: yes!10:00
yassinehow to please? !!10:00
bluefusionxli am in root10:00
pawelordinary: gnome?10:00
bluefusionxlpsyco10:00
Stormx2yassine: There is a great guide at ubuntuforums.org, search for "PocketPC"10:00
burning_bronxyassine, it should be possible10:00
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psycosebluefusionxl, have you compile ndiswrapper yourself ?10:00
ordinaryI'm using gnome now10:00
matte_gWhere can I find the guide to get mp3 support in ubuntu?10:00
Stormx2burning_bronx: i've done it! With a smartphone though, but its the same process10:00
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Randomnick33I was just wondering whether it be better to leave my modem in for the installation or to take it out and install it later10:00
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yassineok i will search for the guide, thanks !!!10:00
ordinaryI also have and enjoy the kubunntu desktop environ10:00
Stormx2burning_bronx: I wrote a HOWTO on some models which are differcult10:00
Evil_Whisper:S10:00
bluefusionxlpsyco, at first I tried that and then I folloed the ubuntu wiki and made .debs10:00
Anth0ny_transgress, now my installer ask for the kernel-headers for my kernel. How do I install these?10:01
burning_bronxStormx2, I am not the one with a Pocket PC10:01
pawelordinary: Panel -> System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts10:01
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bluefusionxlpsyco, ok  I just uninstalled it and reisntalled the thing using debs10:01
psycosebluefusionxl, what is the gcc version you used ? sorry my nick is not psyco lazy man10:01
bluefusionxlpsyco, it still deos not work10:01
pawelquite obvious.10:02
bluefusionxlpsycose, sry10:02
gnomefreakAnth0ny_,  if you just updated kernels after you boot into new kernel the rest of the packages should install10:02
bluefusionxllet me see10:02
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bassnratis there any suggestions on how to decompress an .rmp file?10:02
matte_gWhich package contains gnomebacker?10:02
burning_bronxbassnrat,  you first have to install the alien package10:02
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burning_bronxsudo apt-get install fakeroot alien10:02
gnomefreak!alien10:02
ubotusomebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/10:02
bluefusionxlpsycose, I used the latest.. but it had nurmerous errors10:02
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bluefusionxlso I folloed the iunstructions on the wiki and made debs10:03
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bluefusionxlabd got that error message10:03
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klondikeHello again10:03
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Comrade_Vladimirhow do u load a ubuntu partition on windows xp10:03
matte_gWhich package contains gnomebacker ?10:03
bluefusionxlpsychose, do you want the error message again?10:03
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SmartUnixany help in my install problem ?10:03
psycosebluefusionxl, what is the gcc version you used ?10:03
Stormx2Comrade_Vladimir: You need an app for that10:03
burning_bronxComrade_Vladimir, you download one of the many linux browsers10:03
bassnratok thank you big time10:04
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KlondikeWhat's the best way to pursue a probably X configuration problem?10:04
Dr_WillisComrade_Vladimir,  check  http://www.fs-driver.org/10:04
bluefusionxlpsycose, it is10:04
Klondike*probable10:04
Comrade_Vladimiri use firefox on windows burning_bronx10:04
Stormx2Comrade_Vladimir: I beleive theres one called Tuxido (or however you spell it)10:04
bluefusionxloops got cut off10:04
SmartUnixi created Ext3 partiton with MagicPartiton10:04
bluefusionxllet me check10:04
SmartUnixand when i try to install ubuntu , it's show for me partiton list (included Ext3 partition) i choose to format Ext3 partiton10:04
SmartUnixthen format installer show for me this "no file system is defined."10:04
burning_bronxComrade_Vladimir, I didn't mean web browsers10:04
burning_bronxlol10:04
Comrade_Vladimirhaha10:04
Stormx2SmartUnix: You didn't need to do that, the installer will do partitioning itself10:04
KlondikeI just installed Ubuntu, and it seems to have installed perfectly aside from the fact that X won't boot.10:04
KlondikeI get a "No screens found" error10:04
bluefusionxlpsychose, gcc 3.310:04
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psycosebluefusionxl, ok10:05
SmartUnixbut i want install in Ext3 exists partition10:05
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KlondikeIs there a particular location on disk where Ubuntu stores its documentation?10:05
KlondikeThat I could look through to help me in configure X to locate my screen correctly?10:06
Klondike*configuring10:06
ordinaryThank you in Dvorak.10:06
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psycosebluefusionxl, what tutorial did you follow and what is your wifi hardware name10:06
mmaglisKlondike: yes /usr/share/doc/10:06
void^Klondike: man xorg.conf ?10:06
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bluefusionxlokay the tutorial was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2910:06
Am|SchoolKlondike: what's the problem?10:06
bluefusionxland my hardware is DWL 52010:06
bluefusionxlDLINK DWL 52010:06
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KlondikeI just completed the Ubuntu installation process, and on first real boot after installation, X won't bott up10:06
Klondike*boot10:07
Comrade_VladimirDr_Willis now how do i use it?10:07
bluefusionxlklondike, which ubuntu version are you using?10:07
KlondikeWhen I look in the logs, it says that "No screens wree found"10:07
KlondikeBreezy10:07
mmaglisKondike: can you give us some hardware info?10:07
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KlondikeSure, I have an ATI Radeon 300 128MB video card10:07
KlondikeWhich is described in the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file10:07
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bluefusionxlklondike, go to the ubuntu wiki and read a tutorial about setting up X Free10:08
Dr_WillisComrade_Vladimir,  read the web site and docs.. ya install it.. run the control-panel program for it. and set a drive letter.10:08
djm62bluefusionxl: not X.org?10:08
KlondikeOK, I'll install the lynx package with aptitude then?10:08
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KlondikeI checked the x.org wiki but it tells you to use your vendor's documentation10:08
grim1I'm having major problems with my cd/dvd drive permissions I can't seem to sudo chmod them is there any way of resetting to a default setting or would haviung dma enabled be a problem??10:08
bluefusionxlxfree86 is the default10:08
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KlondikeI checked that by using wget and parsing the HTML in pico -_-10:08
bluefusionxlcheck wiki.ubuntuinux.org10:08
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blohi to the channel10:09
Stormx2grim1: Did the problem start when you enabled DMA?10:09
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Stormx2hi to blo10:09
bluefusionxlpsycho have you an answer to my question yet?10:09
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Comrade_VladimirDr_Willis control panel program?10:09
KlondikeAll right, is lynx the best command line browser?10:09
bluefusionxlyes10:09
bluefusionxldefinatly10:09
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psycosebluefusionxl, have you take the corresponding driver here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D ?10:09
KlondikeOkay, cool, thanks guys.10:09
Dr_WillisComrade_Vladimir,  its a windows program/tool, with a icon in the control panel.10:09
grim1Stormx2: No I only noticed when I installed cedega and it keeps failing the permissions test10:09
derick_in toronto gay man10:09
mmaglisKlondike: try to use more conservative display settings10:09
bluefusionxlyes, psycose, I do10:09
Comrade_Vladimiroh ok i see it10:10
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bluefusionxlpsyco, my driver is setup properly10:10
Comrade_VladimirDr_Willis how bout the swap letter that too?10:10
bluefusionxlI jsut can't load the ndiswrapper module10:10
Moxiecould someone help me out with dual booting?10:10
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Moxieim trying to figure out how to dual boot linux/mac10:10
Dr_WillisComrade_Vladimir,  can you think of ANY reason you need to access the swap partition in windows?  :P10:10
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Comrade_Vladimirjust wonderin10:11
Moxiethe partitions are screwed up or something?10:11
holycowguys, what sorts of startegies do you guys use for mirroring a drive?  i don't want to use dd as its a waste to write every single bit for bit.  i tried using gparted to repartition, dd the bootsector and tar -p over the system files but thats not working.  any other approaches to take ?10:11
netmonkanyone using dapper?10:11
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grim1Stormx2: So I followed there guide to changing permissions but nothing is happening10:11
Comrade_VladimirDr_Willis wow thats cool thanks10:11
Moxiei can get them both installs, then when i try and and run mac it doesnt start up?10:11
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Moxieany idea why?10:11
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bloQ: can i install firefox 1.5 via apt-get ? (apt-get insall mozilla-firefox says it's altready the last version...)10:11
Moxiei can get the yaboot screen in the begining and all....just tiger wont boot up10:11
Evil_Whisperblo firefox 1.5 isnt in the repos10:11
bluefusionxlblo, you will have to install 1.5 manually10:11
Moxielinux boots fine tho10:11
Moxieany ideas?10:12
bluefusionxlblo, its really simple10:12
bluefusionxlblo, its just a bin file10:12
bluefusionxlrun it and your done10:12
bluefusionxlwell its a setup sorta like windows'10:12
Stormx2blo: No you cant10:12
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ubuntuhelp10:12
Dr_Willislol10:12
Evil_Whisperextract to /opt/ and create a symbolic link to /usr/bin/firefox10:12
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blook i'll do that, hoped was something wrong with my list of repositories ;-)10:12
Moxiecould anyone help?10:12
Moxieany ideas?10:12
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stuart_I was trying to install direfox 1.5. I followed the wiki and just copied and pasted into terminal. I got a bug311480 and downloaded a fix for it. Now Firefox does not open. I get a mozzila quality feedback screen instead. Any ideas where I went bad?10:13
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Stormx2stuart_: Start over.10:13
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psycosebluefusionxl, may be you have a symlink problem in /etc/ndiswrapper10:14
bluefusionxlwhat should I do about it, psycose?10:14
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hardbop200I've got a problem with gmail and getmail, and I can't figure it out10:14
didierbj10:15
DRK13rim10:15
bluefusionxlwhat should I type in shell psycose?10:15
hardbop200I did a search for getmail, and it couldn't find a package, so I d/l the tarball10:15
hardbop200to install, I need python 2.410:15
hardbop200when I search for python, I get two billion packages that reference python, but no plain ol' python 2.410:16
hardbop200I'm sure I'm missing something here - can you point me in the right direction?10:16
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psycosebluefusionxl, thinking ...10:17
ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to free my soundcard from other prograpms10:17
bluefusionxlok10:17
Moxieany ideas?10:17
Moxiesomeone please help?10:17
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stuart_stormx2_: Nope, It still is not working.10:18
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ElitePetecan anyone tell me how to free my soundcard from other prograpms10:18
Moxietrying to figure out dual booting?10:18
Moxiethe yaboot10:18
Moxieit wont start up tiger.....but linux will load fine10:19
Evil_Whisperhow do I remove an application and ALL of its depenancies?10:19
=== xester good night
ki8drhow is the boot loader in ubuntu?10:19
Moxieshitty!10:19
bluefusionxlIf it helps at all psycose I am using "Hoary Hedgehog"10:19
burning_bronxshitty my ass10:19
Moxiefine if your only running one OS10:19
Evil_Whisperfor example If I installed konquror (SP?) and wnted to remove it and all of the dependancies how would I do that?10:19
burning_bronxgrub owns you10:20
Moxieowns?10:20
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Moxieyea it does actually, cause i cant f@cking figure it out10:20
Moxiepisses me off10:20
burning_bronxeasy like hell10:20
void^grub is nice. you can do everything with it.10:20
burning_bronxtrue10:20
Moxieburning could you help me out?10:20
burning_bronxwith what?10:21
Moxietrying to dual boot10:21
Moxiemac/linux10:21
ki8drwhat dual systems?10:21
burning_bronxI've never installed mac & linux10:21
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stuart_I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead.10:21
Moxieknow anything about yaboot?10:21
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burning_bronxI know I prefer gnome >.>10:22
burning_bronx*grub10:22
burning_bronxmy brain is off10:22
psycosebluefusionxl, what is the detailled kernel version you are using ?10:22
Moxiethat doesnt help much....10:22
Moxiedo you know anything about dual booting?10:22
Moxietwo OS's one computer?10:22
bluefusionxllet me check psycose10:22
burning_bronxI AM dualbooting10:22
burning_bronxonly not on a mac >.>10:23
Moxieok....10:23
Moxiebut still10:23
Moxiewhat did you use?10:23
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Moxiefdisk?10:23
Moxiepdisk?10:23
frenchyhey does anyone here use amarok10:23
stuart_I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead of the browser. Can anyone help?10:23
burning_bronxhow about ubuntu's partition tool?10:23
coNPfrenchy, sure10:23
bluefusionxl2.6.10-5-38610:24
frenchydo you know why i always get the could not find service kfmclient10:24
bluefusionxlpsycose, it is 2.6.10-5-38610:24
hardbop200sorry to pester, but does anyone have any ideas on the getmail/python issue?10:24
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Nimmithey, I need help setting up my wireless card10:24
bluefusionxllol so do I nimmit10:25
Stormx2The "GettingUbuntu" page needs updating. To quote: "Currently, the Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger "Preview" release is available at [WWW]  Breezy Colony's area."10:25
NimmitI have a Broadcom wireless card10:25
frenchycoNPdo you know why i always get the could not find service kfmclient10:25
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psycosebluefusionxl, please display the error again10:26
bluefusionxlokay psycose10:26
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coNPfrenchy, no, I use the one describe here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php10:26
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frenchyim running gnome10:27
bluefusionxlpsycose, modprod ndiswrapper10:27
bluefusionxlpsycose, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko) : Invalid Argument10:27
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stuart_I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead of the browser. Can anyone help?10:28
coNPfrenchy, me too10:28
nassoany skilled java programmer here?10:28
psycosebluefusionxl, do $ ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko         what does it output ?10:28
coNPnasso, ask, we might help10:28
Randomnick33well this time my boot cd didn't work, I got no operating system found while trying to boot from the disk. I'm thinking maybe it doesn't like the .iso exetension, any ideas what I did wrong?10:28
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nassoi need to output an byte as an ascii character using System.out10:28
Stormx2Randomnick33: You burnt it wrong10:28
Randomnick33lol I guessed that10:29
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Stormx2Randomnick33: You can't just copy the iso onto the disk. Check this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto10:29
Randomnick33I'm using SONIC to burn it10:29
Randomnick33ok thanks I'll read that10:29
burning_bronx!iso10:29
ubotu[iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto10:29
nassoi cant just System.out.println(byte), it will print the value of the byte, not the ascii-representation of that value...10:29
kbrooksHanzo__, btw, this is really, really busy10:29
Lemon-Stormx2, still there.. :P10:29
bluefusionxlno such file or directory10:29
Stormx2Lemon-: I am10:29
Lemon-Stormx2, hehe10:30
Stormx2Lemon-: Hanging in there >.<10:30
Lemon-going to sleep10:30
kbrooksHanzo__, ask away, though10:30
Lemon-good nite10:30
burning_bronx:P10:30
bluefusionxlpsycose, no such file or directory, and i typed exactly what you said10:30
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burning_bronxnight owns you10:30
burning_bronx^_^10:30
Hanzo__whats the install system called in Ubuntu?10:30
psycosebluefox83, that what i was saying ... a symlink problem ..10:30
coNPnasso: you want an ASCII code (a number)?10:30
psycosebluefusionxl,  that what i was saying ... a symlink problem ..10:30
Stormx2Hanzo__: The Ubuntu Installer10:30
kbrooksHanzo__, "install system" sounds confusing10:31
bluefusionxlyes psycose?10:31
kbrooksHanzo__, please define10:31
Stormx2Uh oh10:31
SweetestSavageQuestion: When I try to extract a folder from a .zip archive, I get this error.. Failed to execute child process "/bin/sh" (Argument list too long)10:31
SweetestSavageAny ideas?10:31
Stormx2a leg just fell off my chair >.<10:31
Stormx2SweetestSavage: What program are you using?10:31
Hanzo__the utility to download additional software.10:31
SweetestSavageStormx2, the Archive Manager10:31
bluefusionxlhow do I fix the symlink problem psycose ?10:31
kbrooksHanzo__, synaptic10:32
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psycosebluefusionxl,  you are trying to load a module that do not exist..10:32
SweetestSavageIs there an archive terminal command?10:32
burning_bronxactually it's apt10:32
Stormx2SweetestSavage: yes there is10:32
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SweetestSavageStormx2, may I ask what it is?10:32
nassoi want it to print the ascii-character that has the same value as the byte. an example. if the byte==100 i want 'd' to be written in the terminal10:32
burning_bronxsynaptic is a front-end10:32
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Stormx2SweetestSavage: Not sure what it is though. Let me see.10:32
bluefusionxlbut psycose I ran the .deb10:32
SweetestSavageStormx2, Ah, okay. Thanks10:32
kbrooksburning_bronx, dont tell him that10:32
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burning_bronxwhy? o_O;10:33
bluefusionxlwhat do I need to do psycose?10:33
orchidhttp://pastebin.arslinux.com/2808 is this corect for ubuntu sources? I'm following the http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre and after updating cant find any jre2 package at all10:33
crimsun_orchid: there's a j2re in multiverse10:33
Stormx2SweetestSavage: The command is "unzip"10:33
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Hanzo__burning_bronx, its because im stupid!!!10:34
AbdulSpiegelQuestion!10:34
Stormx2SweetestSavage: Shoulda guessed that I think! try "unzip file.zip"10:34
burning_bronxO_O;10:34
SweetestSavageStormx2, ah, thanks =)10:34
burning_bronxoookay...10:34
burning_bronxw/e10:34
orchidcrimsun_: ahh ok, thanks10:34
AbdulSpiegelCan anyone tell me if i should be searching 'ubuntu themes' on google or 'gnome themes' ?10:34
crimsun_orchid: use !info j2re1.410:34
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: gnome-look.org for themes10:34
kbrooksAbdulSpiegel, up to you'10:34
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burning_bronxAbdulSpiegel, you should go to gnome-look.org10:34
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: And yes you should.10:34
burning_bronxroflmfao10:34
Stormx2burning_bronx: Beat you10:35
burning_bronxStormx2, bit me10:35
burning_bronx*bite me10:35
stuart_I am still having problems getting firefox to load. I followed the wiki and now I get a Mozzila Quality Feedback agent opening instead of the browser. Can anyone help?10:35
burning_bronx:P10:35
psycosebluefusionxl, may be you could remove your ndiswrapper driver $ sudo ndiswrapper -e <DRIVER> , then continue your tutorial step starting at installing you driver $ sudo ndiswrapper -i ...10:35
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Stormx2o.O10:35
orchid!info j2re1.410:35
ubotuj2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB10:35
AbdulSpiegelWICKED, cus thats the site im on :)10:35
burning_bronx:P10:35
AbdulSpiegelIs it GDE themes?10:35
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bluefusionxlok10:36
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Depends what you want to theme,.10:36
kbrooksAbdulSpiegel, try that10:36
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JuhazAbdulSpiegel, if you want application themes, gtk 2.x10:36
Blues-Manhi all10:36
Anth0ny_I just realized that i am running on a 386-kernel. Isn't it performing quite bad on a P4 3GHz?10:36
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AbdulSpiegeli just want an entire theme so GDE is alright?10:36
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Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Themes consist of Controls, window borders, and icons10:37
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AbdulSpiegeloh10:37
SweetestSavageStormx2, ah it worked beautifully10:37
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no0tichi, will dapper use X11R7?10:37
AbdulSpiegelStormx2, i quess installing them isn't as easy as it is in Windows?10:37
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Much eaier10:37
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burning_bronxno0tic, it already does10:38
crimsun_no0tic: it is, yes.10:38
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Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: You download the file and drag + drop it into the window10:38
AbdulSpiegelwindow?10:38
no0ticcrimsun_, burning_bronx :)10:38
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Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: The theme window. System > Preferences > Theme10:38
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: The advantage of having the 3 areas seperate is so you can mix and match themes.10:38
Blues-ManI can't write on the vfat partition, I 've put the  rw,user,noauto options, in your opinion why?10:38
AbdulSpiegeloh ok10:39
Stormx2Blues-Man: Check the wiki on MountingWindowsDrives10:39
AbdulSpiegelok10:39
Blues-Manok10:39
AbdulSpiegelits a tar.gz10:39
AbdulSpiegeldrag the entire tar.gz?10:40
kbrooksHanzo__, PING.10:40
burning_bronxdrag the tar.gz file10:40
burning_bronxdarn10:40
burning_bronxit can't get more easy than that10:40
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Yep, Drag it onto the themes window. It should prompt you to install it10:40
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Hanzo__!ping kbrooks10:40
ubotuHanzo__: What?10:40
pozdiyI have Rage 128 PF 16 Mb card under Ubuntu Breezy with r128 dirver, xdriinfo says Screen 0: r128, but glxinfo says direct rendering: No, how to enable DRI?10:41
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Once you have, select "Theme Details" and select the theme you just installed from the list10:41
Stormx2Hanzo__: What are you trying to acheive?10:41
niffehow can i change reselution? I`v tried in system but there is only 640x48010:41
pashawAnth0ny_, are you having problems with it?10:41
kbrooksHanzo__, as in10:41
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JFlashis there a website that is like "linux for dummies" or something?10:41
Stormx2niffe: you need to reconfigure xorg10:41
Stormx2!xorg10:41
ubotuxorg is probably to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:41
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kbrooksHanzo__, "are you there. if so, pong me back"10:41
Hanzo__how10:41
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Stormx2JFlash: Check the "Absolute beginners talk" at ubuntuforums.org10:41
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Anth0ny_pashaw, I think I read somewhere, that you always should install the 686 in order to increase performance?10:41
Stormx2JFlash: And of course, ask any questions you have here10:42
mrtwisterJFlash: for what10:42
mrtwisterJFlash: what problems?10:42
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navaroneJFlash, if you use a p2p client do a search for linux for dummies pdf and you should be able to get a pdf doc10:42
kbrooksHanzo__, "kbrooks: PONG", oddly enough10:42
Hanzo__kbrooks: PONG10:42
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kbrooksno10:42
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Hanzo__nvm10:42
kbrooksthat was a example10:42
bluefoxicywhy would you need a linux for dummies or whatever, it would probably overcomplicate the usage of linux10:42
pashawAnth0ny_, thats just to maximise the performance  (use all additional instruction sets)   otherwise youll be fine for a long time10:43
sureshoti need help getting gambas to run. i click on the icon it seems to try to come up but does not10:43
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Stormx2bluefoxicy: We were all 1337 n00bz once.10:43
pashawAnth0ny_, when you get bored trying new things   jump on switching it over10:43
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psycosepozdiy have you got the line :      Load    "dri"           in your "Module" Section in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?10:43
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bluefoxicyStormx2:  yeah, and Linux books typically don't seem to go for "Point, click, log in. . ."10:44
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pozdiypsycose, (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a10:44
Anth0ny_pashaw, okay, thanks10:44
bluefoxicyStormx2:  they seem to be more focused on "Oh btw bash has tab complete.  You can update using rpm or apt-get."10:44
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Stormx2bluefoxicy: Indeed. looking for a "GNOME for dummies" book would be a better idea10:44
bluefoxicyStormx2:  I've yet to see a basic Linux book that starts anywhere but bash.  :(10:45
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psycosepozdiy sorry i can't help you ;-)10:45
Stormx2bluefoxicy: Thats cause everything on linux is built on bash10:45
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bluefoxicyStormx2:  Writing your own would be better.  "To get started, we'll go into LiveCDs.  LiveCDs will let you experience Linux without installing it."10:45
blotnxs Evil_Whisper 4 the help (was ffox 1.5)10:45
pozdiypsycose, tnx10:45
sureshotis there anyone on tonight that uses gambas10:46
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bluefoxicyStormx2:  Actually, everything on Linux is built on C, including bash.  Apparently we don't have to learn C to use Linux though.10:46
Stormx2The problem with FF is every version feels exactly the same10:46
Stormx2bluefoxicy: Well yes. But then C is built on stuff below it too.10:46
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burning_bronxyou could take me higher, so you said10:47
burning_bronxI trusted you10:47
javeI'm trying to use smbmount in ubuntu, I just installed.. but it doesn't seem to be available10:47
burning_bronxI may be a liar, but betrayal10:47
javeHow do I acquire it?10:47
burning_bronxlies in you10:47
bluefoxicyStormx2:  questionable argument.  The stuff below C doesn't necessarily become anything in particular; it could become ARM, PPC, 8086, or 68000 assembly10:47
concept10Stormx2, thats not true, ff 1.5 feels slower10:47
JohnI am in the midst of using Live CD as a demo. I cannot shut off my computer. Any suggestions please??.10:47
Stormx2concept10: haha true10:47
bluefoxicyStormx2:  all different, different MMU concepts, different registers, etc.  You can't say C is exactly built on anything in particular10:47
bluefoxicyStormx2:  except vi, perhaps.10:48
concept10John, sudo shutdown now10:48
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javeWhat is the default pass for root anyway? I can do sudo by using the same password as I set for my normal user, but "su root" doesnt work with the same password10:48
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JohnNot faimailiar with "sudo"10:48
zokaI just want to thank to the people who made such a great distribution10:48
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Stormx2!root10:48
Stormx2!tell jave about root10:48
bluefoxicyjave:  No root password exists.  Root is disabled.10:49
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zokause sudo10:49
concept10John, bring up a terminal window.  and run the command sudo shutdown now10:49
javeOh10:49
Stormx2jave: Check your messages from ubotu.10:49
JohnWhat is "sudo", please?10:49
bluefoxicyJohn:  You can't shutdown your computer?10:49
zokajave root is root of all evil10:49
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Stormx2jave: You can enable root, but it breaks the GUI system tools10:49
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bluefoxicyJohn:  Just flip the switch off, if no drives are mounted10:49
cmathesonJohn: you'll probably want shutdown -h now10:49
bluefoxicyJohn:  or press the power button10:49
JohnNo10:49
Stormx2have some r00tb33r10:49
javeAlright, thanks10:49
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javehm... I just need to know, how do I set permissions for a directory so that all users can access it?10:50
bluefoxicyJohn:  pressing power once will tell the kernel you want to shut down, so it will do so.10:50
JohnHave pressed power button.10:50
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Stormx2John: sudo is "Super User DO"10:50
bluefoxicyJohn:  did you mount any drives?10:50
ga^vuI'm trying to connect on ubuntu as root, but it seems i do not have the password...is there a default password?10:50
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gwynmjave: chmod -R ugo+rx mydir ?10:50
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bluefoxicyga^vu:  don't ssh in as root, ssh as your own user10:50
JohnNo, no drives mounted10:50
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bluefoxicyJohn:  Then just hold the power button in until it shuts off, or press reset.10:50
gwynmI've got a laptop here with no cd drive, but I have ethernet and a 512mb bootable usb key. Is it possible to do an ubuntu install?10:50
ga^vubut i do't have permission to use other partitions10:51
bluefoxicyJohn:  otherwise, system->log off10:51
ga^vuand i need them10:51
bluefoxicyeither or.10:51
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Stormx2gwynm: Very possible10:51
bluefoxicy(powering off is faster on a livecd)10:51
LiGhTeRhi all =)10:51
zokaok people how to instal ruby and ruby on rails10:51
SweetestSavageCan someone explain to me what SNAT is?10:51
gwynmzoka: apt-get install ruby10:51
bluefoxicyga^vu:  then log in and use sudo to get root.10:51
gwynmzoka: apt-get install rails :)10:51
zokaI have bilion of conflicts10:51
Stormx2Hi LiGhTeR!10:51
ga^vusudo?10:51
gwynmstormx2: Okay, perhaps I should have asked.. *how* do I install ubuntu? :)10:51
Stormx2zoka: apt-get install ruby?10:51
ga^vuhow do i do that?10:51
Stormx2ga^vu: Write sudo before a command you need root for10:52
bluefoxicyga^vu:  userps root with your own password, if and only if you have root access.10:52
bluefoxicyga^vu:  sudo ls /root10:52
LiGhTeRtommorow im going to install ubuntu on my server and my q is that if it is possible to share the hdd in the network so that both my linux comp and windows computers can access to the hard drives =)10:52
gwynmstormx2: If you give me the top-level steps I can google the details.10:52
LiGhTeRand if it's easy =)10:52
sureshotso no one kwows anything about gambas this after noon. i will try again later10:52
Stormx2LiGhTeR: Yep, Samba can do that10:52
gwynmlighter: Yes, use Samba.10:52
concept10sureshot, did you try the gambas channel?10:52
javeI can't change the permissions of my mounted drives, even using sudo.. im doing "chmod ugo+rx hda1" but it throws out "read-only file system", it's NTFS.... how do I solve this?10:52
sureshotthis is one i am a newbie10:52
sureshothow do i get there10:53
Stormx2gwynm: I think theres is a wiki page on it. Otherwise, try ubuntuforums.org <-- There will definately be a howto on it10:53
concept10->  /join #channel10:53
gwynmjave: You can't. NTFS is read-only because MS haven't released the specs and the driver can't safely write to it.10:53
Stormx2jave: unmount, the mount with umask=000010:53
JohnThank you - kept pressing the shut-off. I am looking at putting the program on an IBM Thinkpad Pentium II leaving Widows 98 in place due to the material I have ondorard. The harddrive is partitioned. Any thoughts, please?10:53
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javealright10:53
Stormx2jave: Wait10:53
Stormx2jave: Not on NTFS10:53
sureshoti have tried the deb install it just does not come up10:53
javeoh10:53
zokaE: Package ruby1.8 has no installation candidate10:53
zokawhat to f10:53
Stormx2jave: DO NOT try to write to NTFS. Bad idea10:53
trappistzoka: libruby1.8, ruby10:53
LiGhTeRstormx2 gwynm okay thx =) but im also thinking of putting the server directly on the broadband line and behind the server put a switch and connect my other computers throw that switsch is that also possible ?? =)10:54
javeSo how do I access it? Even if it's read-only... I can't even cd to it because it says permission denied10:54
ga^vuthanks10:54
niffehow  can i rename xorg.conf?10:54
Stormx2LiGhTeR: I have no idea10:54
sureshotyou will corrupt ntfs that way10:54
burning_bronxactually 2.6.15 "has" some NTFS write functionality10:54
burning_bronx>.>10:54
javeForget that, I don't want to write to it! I just want to access the files10:55
pashawLiGhTeR, Sambas  on a front line server is a bad idea   use something like clarkconnect to do that10:55
sureshottricky you need to know what you are doing or you will corrupt it10:55
LiGhTeRpashaw okay =)10:55
gwynmjave: If you just want everyone to have read access, then that umask=000 ought to do it..?10:55
javeAlright...10:55
javeThanks10:55
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Stormx2jave: If it is read only, then you can access the files10:55
pashawLiGhTeR,  clarkconnect will share your connect as you described and  give you a fairly safe Samba share for internal users10:56
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javeStormx2,  I get permission denied when trying to cd to the mounted drive, but I'll try umask=00010:56
burning_bronxhmm I am using umask=722 here10:56
burning_bronxworks fine10:56
zokaE: Package libruby1.8 has no installation candidate10:56
zokagrrrrr10:56
bluefoxicyapt is too damn slow10:56
bluefoxicyit's written poorly.10:56
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AbdulSpiegelStormx2, okay okay im kinda lost10:56
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LiGhTeRpashaw okay thank you so much i will start work with it tommorow (coun on alot of q:s about it ;);) )10:56
bluefoxicyIt spends like 10 seconds "Unpacking xfce4-icons"10:56
trappistzoka: you've got some issues with your repositories10:57
bluefoxicyduring which time it's using about 2% of the CPU10:57
burning_bronxAbdulSpiegel, where did you got lost?10:57
gwynmstormx2: Found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick10:57
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bluefoxicyCPU usage should be maxed at all times.10:57
gwynmstormx2: Obviously, it needs a >650mb usb stick :(.10:57
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trappistbluefoxicy: not every process is cpu-intensive.  extracting a zillion icons from a non-compressed archive, for example, would just be i/o-intensive.10:57
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javeWhy isn't "smbmount" available? I thought that was standard in samba? Hm. So how am I supposed to mount a networked windows share without smbmount?10:58
trappistjave: sudo apt-get install smbfs10:58
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javeThanks again10:58
Apache_amThere is someone from Brasil ???10:58
holycowhow the hell does partimage image  a 20 gig drive in 2 minutes?10:58
AbdulSpiegelburning_bronx, okay so im looking for themes and all i saw in GDM is like login screen stuff, so i went to GTK 2.1 and like theres abunch of files10:58
holycowjesus10:58
Apache_amIs there someone ?10:58
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AbdulSpiegeli dont know what to do10:58
burning_bronxso?10:59
RaisedFistPlease help me with this: I installed fluxbox from source and I don't know how to add it to the GDM sessions. Thanks10:59
sureshotis the command to list the chanels /list10:59
bluefoxicytrappist:  ok, but it seems to be minimally CPU intensive on everytihng, and I though debs were bzip2'd now.10:59
trappistApache_am: try #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br10:59
servoeHow do I CTRL+ALT+DEL in linux?10:59
burning_bronxAbdulSpiegel, you download the tar.gz and drag it to the themes window?10:59
holycowyou don't servoe10:59
holycowwhat do you need to accomplish?10:59
Apache_amThanks i will try ..10:59
servoefirefox is frozen, and sitting there11:00
AbdulSpiegelburning_bronx, yeh i did that, bu i get an error,  it says file format is invalid11:00
ggellerI'm having trouble installing ununtu on my new AMD64 system.  After I specify the keyboard, I get an error "Detect and mount CD-ROM  Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted..."  No matter if I eject the CD-ROM and re-instert it, it won't mount!  The machine installed Windows 2000 Pro with no problem and runs Knoppix OK.  What should I do?11:00
burning_bronx:/11:00
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trappistggeller: that happened to me.  worked fine in a different cdrom drive.11:00
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burning_bronxAbdulSpiegel, how very peculiar... I just installed a theme this way and it worked fine11:00
niffehow do i restart x server?11:00
burning_bronxhave you tried more than one file?11:00
burning_bronxmaybe the one you tried was corrupted?11:00
trappistniffe: ctrl-alt-backspace11:01
AbdulSpiegelthen i tried saving to desktop and hitting the 'install theme' thing and still go the same error11:01
RaisedFistPlease help me with this: I installed fluxbox from source and I don't know how to add it to the GDM sessions. Thanks11:01
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trappistRaisedFist: why from source?11:01
holycowservoe, you can kill it a few ways, easiest is to add  the kill window applet to your desktop.  you can alternatively add a system monitor applet to desktop and when an app hangs you can open up a services window like in win to kill the app.11:01
ggellertrappist:  OK.  I'll swap one from another box.  Thanks.11:02
holycowservoe, alternatively you can kill it via command line a number of ways.11:02
RaisedFisttrappist, because the one installed from synaptic is not working11:02
burning_bronxAbdulSpiegel, have you tried more than one file?11:02
holycowif t hat doesn't work you can restart your entire x session with ctrl/alt/backspace11:02
AbdulSpiegelyup11:02
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servoehow do I start x-win again when I CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE?11:02
lorentjuess wut!11:02
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burning_bronxand you keep getting the same error?11:03
javeWhat's a good mp3 player?11:03
burning_bronxweird...11:03
djk_jave: amarok11:03
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burning_bronxjave, what dm you using?11:03
javeIll check it out thanks11:03
niffehmm, i reconfigured xorg.conf, restarted it, and still i cant change resolution11:03
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christianphi all11:03
ossiehi11:03
lorentthe zen creative touch is my fav mp3 player for the price11:03
burning_bronxif you're using KDE - amarok, if you're using gnome - Beep Media Player11:03
javejave, gnome... but I'm trying to switch to fluxbox or fvwm but neither apt-get install fluxbox or fvwm is working ^11:03
lorentooo zat kind?11:04
irvinservoe, startx11:04
javeer, burning_bronx *11:04
servoethanks!11:04
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ossiecan anyone point me to the nearsest place to get some support compiling new kernel???11:04
motoguzzimanhi all, i have a quick question. when i install using the synaptic p.m does the sysem hold on to the downloaded files and if so where are the help in the file system?11:04
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burning_bronxjave go for the beep media player then11:04
AbdulSpiegelburning_bronx, this is the one i want http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1354811:04
javealright11:04
burning_bronxalso try the fluxbox channel on this serv11:04
concept10jave, you need to add a session file11:04
javea session file? =/11:05
burning_bronxAbdulSpiegel, I've used that11:05
burning_bronxit's overrated11:05
burning_bronxxD11:05
lorentive got a question before im out, my left arrow key never works unless i change my keyboard configuration to like UK and then back to US, any idea wtf thats about?11:05
concept10jave, google for how to add a fluxbox session file ...  /usr/share/xsessions11:06
AbdulSpiegelburning_bronx, darn, are there any better ones11:06
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jc-dentonhttp://www.bsdgangster.org/11:06
jc-dentony011:06
javeconcept10,  will that solve "couldn't find package fluxbox"?11:06
AbdulSpiegelburning_bronx, i need something to work with Ubuntu 5.1011:06
burning_bronxpersonally I use xfwm4 with clearlooks theme11:07
concept10jave, no, thats something different11:07
burning_bronx;)11:07
javeOkay...11:07
burning_bronxit's pretty weird ya noe ~_~11:07
concept10burning_bronx, well you will love the clearlooks 2 theme, its the best11:07
javeburning_bronx, whats the packagename for bleep media player?11:07
motoguzziman i have a quick question. when i install using the synaptic p.m does the sysem hold on to the downloaded files and if so where are the help in the file system?11:07
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virshould be able to find some stuff on installing fluxbox on the forum11:07
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burning_bronxjave, bmp or something11:08
burning_bronxjust a sec11:08
baldy1324hi ive got a question about speakers/alsa11:08
Apache_amWhere can i configure workgroup, domain usin ubuntu11:08
Apache_am?11:08
Stormx2How big is a standard ubuntu install?11:08
burning_bronxI think a gig or two o_O;11:08
Stormx2burning_bronx: Hmm11:09
javeStormx2,  2gb11:09
burning_bronxStormx2, that depends on what you usin...11:09
javeI just installed and it's using 2gb11:09
virits worth it Stormx211:09
ossiecan anyone point me to the nearsest place to get some support compiling new kernel???11:09
burning_bronxif you go for lightweight stuff it can be packed in half a gig11:09
irvinwho's asking about fluxbox?11:09
javevir,  I'm not impressed... I'm switching back to gentoo =P11:09
Stormx2vir: its for a friend. Im already using ubuntu11:09
javeirvin,  I am11:09
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burning_bronxjave go sudo apt-get install beep-media-player11:09
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irvinjave, have you been here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox11:10
javeE: Couldn't find package beep-media-player11:10
javeI haven't, I'll check it out thanks11:10
baldy1324i hav a question about alsa/speakers11:10
burning_bronxjave do you have universe enabled?11:10
AbdulSpiegelAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!11:10
nickrudjave, also, read AddingRepositoriesHowto11:10
Comrade_Vladimirany one here use m:trip?11:10
Stormx2jave: Enable universe and multiverse11:10
AbdulSpiegelDamn theme stuff11:10
virapt-get = great :)11:10
javeburning_bronx, since I don't know what that is, I guess not11:10
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Shhh11:10
Stormx2AbdulSpiegel: Whats the problem? :-\11:10
nickrud!components11:11
ubotuwell, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view11:11
sureshotcan someone tell me about hoe to enable universe and multiverse from with in ubuntu11:11
virjane....11:11
burning_bronxjave in terminal do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:11
mifritscherhi11:11
Apache_amWhere can i configure workgroup, domain and etc with samba ?11:11
virdamn you beaT me to it burning_bronx11:12
mifritscherwhich program makes the content in /sys?11:12
Stormx2sureshot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:12
burning_bronx!sources.list11:12
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:12
void^mifritscher: linux11:12
burning_bronx!repositories11:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource11:12
irvinubotu, you there?11:12
ubotuirvin: Do they come in packets of five?11:12
sureshotok i keep forgetting about that wiki thanks again. sorry for such petty questions i am learnig though11:12
JFlashok, i'm thinking about trying another distro that is easier on me then Ubuntu, but i want to stick to gnome. So I check Mepis and see it uses KDE, Then I check Mandriva, but i users KDE too. Now I'm ok, let's see about Linspire, "world's easiest" as they say.... o f00nk !!  KDE again!!!  Dude, what do I do??11:12
mifritschervoid, which part of it?11:12
Stormx2sureshot: No problem11:12
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mifritschermy problem is that this directory is empty...11:13
void^mifritscher: the kernel part11:13
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nick01JFlash, mandriva has gnome too11:13
pashawjave,   System-> Help -> Starter Guide  ->  installing programs     (scroll down)  Adding Universe/Multiverse11:13
SweetestSavageCan someone tell me how I can use IPTables?11:13
burning_bronxmandriva is the sux0rz >.>11:13
mifritscherso, how can I let the kernel make the content?11:13
virJFlash,  what are youhaving probs with?11:13
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baldy1324i hav a question about alsa/speakers....11:13
whadarJFlash: linus say KDE... why do you want gnome? ;)11:13
void^mifritscher: mount -t sysfs none /sys11:14
burning_bronxLinus knows nuffin'!11:14
burning_bronxXD11:14
void^mifritscher: if it doesn't work your kernel lacks sysfs support11:14
Stormx2JFlash: What is wrong with ubuntu :(11:14
indyhello!! i'm a new ubuntu user, can you help me?11:14
nickrud!lart linus11:14
virSweetestSavage  you could use firestarter11:14
Stormx2Yeah i saw that comment about KDE linus made XD11:14
mifritschermany thanks, void :-)11:14
SweetestSavagevir, could you teach me how?11:14
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indycan you tell me an antivirus for ubuntu that scans a windows partition?11:14
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burning_bronxindy O_O11:14
zokachecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:15
burning_bronxwhy would you want this?11:15
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Stormx2"Gnome is a disease"11:15
virSweetestSavage firestarter is a gui front end for iptables11:15
Stormx2>.<11:15
void^indy: clamav11:15
nickrudgnome-terminal11:15
burning_bronxGnome owns you.11:15
virgnome is ace11:15
QRZSweetestSavage:  Nobody can just tell you how to use iptables... books are written on it!  It's a vast subject.11:15
burning_bronxGnome > KDE11:15
nickrudgak11:15
zokachecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:15
JFlashKDE is ugly as hell11:15
zokawhat to do people11:15
SweetestSavageQRZ - Any references you could point me towards?11:15
klaymhello! how can I check my computer's main board name and precise information?11:15
chapiumgnome is missing one thing11:15
chapiumand that is gnomes11:15
DRK13lol KDE11:15
chapiumit is sad11:15
whadarburning_bronx: :)11:15
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indynickrud, can you explain me how install it?11:15
tomajhow much of a crackpot is linus, kde > gnome my ass, i dont see firefox, azureus or thunderbird working natively in kde. Case closed!!11:15
QRZSweetestSavage:  Yeah.  Hold on a sec...11:15
Stormx2"This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do."11:15
JFlashand gnome is smooth in my eyes. to me it all comes down to this. sorry about that11:15
nickrudzoka, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:15
DRK13KDE = :cran:11:15
javegnome is crap, kde is less crap, but both are among the ranks of the crap :p11:15
SweetestSavageQRZ - Thank you11:15
indyi dont know use linux like as windows?11:16
nickrudindy, if that's about clamav, I know nothing :)11:16
burning_bronxgnome is good11:16
burning_bronxI mean the desktop11:16
QRZSweetestSavage:  http://www.netfilter.org/11:16
virgaim = gtk bby :D11:16
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burning_bronxthe metacity wm is ghei11:16
Seveaskill the desktop war11:16
tomajkde looks nicer and feels nicer to work with but it doesnt have firefox or azureus so therefore nothing can beat gnome11:16
Seveasit's totally off-topic11:16
chapiumi like gnome's defaults, but I wish I could add/remove a few things11:16
virKDE has nothing as good as gaim11:16
vir:P11:16
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QRZSweetestSavage:  http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO.html11:16
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Stormx2Guys11:16
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Stormx2He's op now11:17
whadargaim?11:17
Stormx2>.<11:17
plagerismwhat is this master     8813       root   11u     IPv4              12143                 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN)11:17
burning_bronxgaim > kopete11:17
SweetestSavageQRZ - Thanks a lot =)11:17
chapiumgaim actually does not use gnome libraries...11:17
QRZSweetestSavage:  np11:17
void^quit the kde<>gnome talk, it makes everyone look stupid11:17
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Astxistanyone know how to get the version of a install program/package?11:17
Stormx2We love you seveas, please don't kick us :(11:17
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burning_bronxwtf was that?11:17
nickrudplagerism, that's postfix11:17
javetomaj: KDE doesnt have firefox? what is preventing you from running firefox under kde?11:17
burning_bronxo_O;11:17
nassoAstxist, check in synaptic11:17
virgaim 2.... .is going to be great11:17
mifritscherthe next problem with suspend to disk: it doesn't find my swap-partition :( it is mounted correctly (see it with free)11:17
SeveasStormx2, then don't start/continue such crap discussions11:17
Stormx2burning_bronx: Too much KDE & GNOME holy war11:17
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Astxistnasso, in use11:17
burning_bronxlol11:17
DRK13gaim 2???????11:17
Stormx2Seveas: I didn't. I didn't even take sides!11:17
virjane its not native11:17
chapiumis there a version of gaim using QT?  That would be interesting11:17
Astxistnasso, and I'd prefer one that works for the cmd line11:17
SeveasStormx2, but you fed it with the linus quote11:18
plagerismnickrud, do I need that??11:18
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Seveaschapium, it's called kopete :)11:18
nassoAstxist, okay then.. take a look at apt-cache, might be it :)11:18
cgnethello11:18
viryes DRK13  gaim 2 is beta11:18
Astxistnasso, thanks11:18
burning_bronxanyway11:18
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nickrudplagerism, well, now, that is an issue under discussion :) but probably not. You have all your mail stuff configured in evolution, right?11:18
Seveasgaim2 is beta and not nearly finished/usable11:18
pashawAstxist,   are you asking how to check versions already installed?11:18
indyok, nickrud, im seeing clamav in internet, excuse me if i dont ask you ok, im from spain and not speak english very good11:18
nassoAstxist, np :)11:18
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virits going to have VOIP and wecam support11:18
burning_bronxI tried gaim211:18
burning_bronxit was nice11:18
plagerismnickrud, yes I do11:18
burning_bronx>.>11:18
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nickrudindy, no problem, if I knew anything, I'd help11:18
Astxistpashaw, yes from the cmdline11:18
Stormx2Seveas: Aww come on :( I've been sitting in this channel helping people and i give one lousy quote from the guy who made us all be here and suddenly I'm evil :(11:18
chapiumif kopete is gaim with qt, then functionality wise, they should be equals11:19
Seveasindy, you might try #ubuntu-es if you prefer to speak spanish11:19
pashawAshtonian,   dpkg -l11:19
JFlashis Suse easier on Noobs then Ubuntu?  I have been trying to configure this system for days and I still cant get evrything to work!!11:19
nickrudplagerism, then no, you don't really need postfix11:19
chapiumalas, I favor adium... that thing rocks11:19
burning_bronxJFlash, what can't you configure?11:19
odatanyone have any experience getting aureal a3d sound working11:19
plagerismnickrud: I believe my system was compromised last night, because another isp complained that I was DDOS attacking an ip last night11:19
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virJFlash,  you been to the forums?11:19
nickrudplagerism, what version are you running?11:19
SeveasJFlash, suse is different. Some parts more difficult, some parts maybe easier11:19
JFlashlast thing was getting my CD-RW to display/erase/record as expected.  It's just too decieving!!!11:19
nickrudplagerism, ubuntu I mean11:19
Astxistah apt-cache show xserver-xorg worked thanks again nasso11:19
indythanks seveas, but i prefer speak in english, because in my work i must speak it ;)11:20
klaymhey where can I check my mother board's technical information?11:20
Seveasindy, okido :)11:20
Seveasklaym, lshw/lshal11:20
chapiumklaym, the manufacturer's website11:20
plagerismnickrud: breezy11:20
concept10I cant change the controls on my theme any more, its locked somewhere. Anyone know how to fix this?11:20
burning_bronxI don't know what you find deceiving... but okay11:20
klaymSeveas: thanks11:20
JFlashburning_bronx,  there's nothing I cant configure, but it usually takes hours and lots of reading and tons of quirks to configure each item. That all adds up, that's the problem11:20
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coNP_null ++ :)11:21
virJFlash,  try ubuntuforums.org and do a search for ubuntuguide11:21
burning_bronxJFlash, do you use the forums?11:21
SeveasJFlash, I doubt suse will be easier for you then11:21
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nickrudplagerism, then, postfix is not a standard part of breezy, you have to install it yourself. It's a mail daemon, and something someone would like to hack into your system.11:21
Seveasime Ubuntu is the easiest to configure11:21
JFlashvir, yea, i've been around there sometimes11:21
icehello11:21
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Seveashi ice11:21
JFlashSeveas, thanks for your opinion!11:21
virJFlash,  you can use automix i think its called11:21
iceany one know how to get microsoft games on ubuntu11:21
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Seveasautomatix is crap11:21
plagerismnickrud:  I am running breezy, however I upgraded progressively from warty11:21
JFlashvir, what's automix?11:21
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chapiumice, which ones?11:22
Seveasice, cedega11:22
iceum halo11:22
nickrudplagerism, ok, hoary did install postfix11:22
icemostly11:22
cgnetI have an external modem "SupraExpress 56e PRO Diamond" but my system doesnt recognize it. how can i make it to work?11:22
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odatanyone have any experience getting aureal a3d sound working11:22
bluefoxicyblast11:22
plagerismnickrud:  how do I disable it??11:22
icebut this a test machine so i dont think halo  will work on it11:22
burning_bronxJFlash, it's a tool that supposedly installs all the things you'd need11:22
SeveasJFlash, he means automatix, an evil crappy piece of shit that some people mistake to be an easy installer11:22
bluefoxicythe ipod has an OS on it11:22
chapiumice, you can try cedaga like Seveas said... dont be surprised if its crap though :D11:22
virJFlash,  its a installer... it will set up msfonts, java w32 codecs11:22
Seveasbut in fact it's an easy trigger-a-reinstaller11:22
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Thom_hi all11:22
virfirestarter11:22
void^ice: it's reasonable to assume microsoft games work best on microsoft platforms11:23
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Thom_little question :)11:23
Thom_how to install ati drivers?11:23
Seveasvir, don't advise automatix in here11:23
Thom_or reinstall becouse of new kernel?11:23
Seveas!tell Thom_ about ati11:23
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nickrudplagerism, you can simply apt-get postix away. There are some things that will want a mailer, however. It all depends on if you installed them. apt-get will complain about removing extra packages then.11:23
cgnetI have an external modem "SupraExpress 56e PRO Diamond" but my system doesnt recognize it. how can i make it to work?11:23
Stormx2Yeah i installed a new kernel version today. Rebooted and got "kernel panic"11:23
nickrudplagerism, if apt doesn't complain, then continue with the remove.11:23
JFlashSeveas, why is it evil?11:24
burning_bronxmy latest kernel pwns11:24
virok Seveas11:24
burning_bronxJFlash, it would mess your system enought to have to reinstall11:24
indyanother question ;), can i use a rpm package in ubuntu?11:24
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SeveasJFlash, it overwrites config files, mindlessly uses --force-yes and makes no backups11:24
BlueEaglestormx2: It would appear as you didn't compile all the required drivers then. :)11:24
Seveasit is TOTAL CRAP11:24
chapium!automatix11:24
ubotuautomatix is, like, crap11:24
Stormx2indy: Yep. use alien11:24
rinzai-sh1indy: yes...look into alien11:24
Seveasand triggered dozens of reinstalls already11:24
iceok now how d you extract files and install them11:24
burning_bronx!EasyUbuntu11:24
virlol11:24
Stormx2BlueEagle: I rebooted again and it was fine.11:24
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JFlashubotu tell JFlash about automatix11:25
burning_bronxSeveas, there should be an entry about EasyUbuntu11:25
rinzai-sh1automatix could be written better with just ten monkeys and ten typewriters!  w00t!11:25
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AMDXPok if i want to make a folder read/writeable in the /var/www folder i do a chmod correct11:25
iceim a linux newbe11:25
Seveasburning_bronx, easy{breezy,ubuntu} is still in development, older versions suck as much as automatix11:25
chapiumi like the idea of automatix11:25
icehow do you extract files and install them11:25
SeveasAMDXP, yes11:25
chapiumice, welcome11:25
iceyo11:25
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JFlashLOL. ubotu tells me automatix is crap !!11:25
BlueEaglestormx2: So your kernel paniced when attempting to boot it the first time but when you attempted to boot it again it worked?11:25
burning_bronxI heard EasyUbuntu merged with Automatix... anyway11:25
Seveaschapium, the idea is nice, the implementation is shit11:25
BlueEagleo.O11:25
AMDXPSeveas and for all the folders inside that folder i would have to use  -R correct11:25
burning_bronxenough bout that - better learn do stuff manually11:25
SeveasAMDXP, correct again11:26
Stormx2BlueEagle: Yep. Its happened to me once before with FC11:26
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burning_bronxget the power in your hands11:26
dydimustkshould I be able to get firefox 1.5 up and running?11:26
AMDXPok let me try this again11:26
Seveasdydimustk, why would you?11:26
chapiumSeveas: Yeah, I looked it over, but was frustrated that it would be installing a ton of baggage I do not need.11:26
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cgnetI have an external modem "SupraExpress 56e PRO Diamond" but my system doesnt recognize it. how can i make it to work?11:26
odatanyone have any experience getting aureal a3d working11:26
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icehay cadaga isint free11:26
icewhat about wine11:26
dydimustkSeveas: should I not want to?11:26
Thom_so :P11:26
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BlueEaglestormx2: Did you do a hard reboot after the panic? (ie. turn the power completely off, not just ctrl+alt+del?)11:26
Thom_that fucked up11:26
Thom_tell me about ati again please :P11:26
chapiumice, cedaga  helps with directx support.. wine does not11:26
Seveasdydimustk, 1.5 is not much different from 1.0.711:26
Thom_!tell _thom about ati11:27
Stormx2BlueEagle: I hit the reset button.11:27
icebut its not free11:27
virice  you can complie cefega from cvs i believe don't ask me how11:27
Seveasno different at all for the thing I use it for11:27
BlueEaglestormx2: Sounds weird.11:27
ice???11:27
Seveasand 1.0.7 is supported in Breezy11:27
dydimustkSeveas, I'm not having much luck with extensions11:27
iceok talk to me like a child11:27
dydimustkI guess I'll just have to look for older one11:27
dydimustks11:27
iceone who knows windows like the back of my hand11:27
AMDXPSeveas: I am trying to make a folder jinzora and all folders inside read / writeable11:27
AMDXPSeveas: is this correct  sudo chown vegeta -R  jinzora211:27
burning_bronxice knowing windows does not make you special >.>11:28
irvinAMDXP, yes that's correct11:28
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SeveasAMDXP, probably11:28
Stormx2ice: Cedega is amoral but its the best thing there is for gaming.11:28
icebut i like windows11:28
icebut not free11:28
AMDXPi dont have to specify rw11:28
indyStormx2, where is alien? i dont see it!!! Help me please11:28
void^ice: piece of advice: use windows for games, save your time11:28
iceyou see free is in my price range11:28
Seveasvoid^, apt-get install alien :)11:28
Stormx2indy: its not in the repos? let me see11:28
irvinAMDXP, that would be chmod11:28
Stormx2!info alien11:28
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ubotualien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB11:28
irvinAMDXP, sudo chmod +rw11:28
Stormx2yeah its there11:28
Stormx2^_^11:28
virice even when most windows ftp clients don't even work to ftp protocol standard?11:28
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Stormx2Im gonna take a bath. Cya later11:29
TigerDuckGood evening11:29
icewell im just trying to get the doom collectors to work11:29
icenothing that complicated11:29
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viri can't believe i'm running azureus on only 198mb of ram11:30
burning_bronxvir, you would run out of ram soon enough11:30
burning_bronxazureus is a memory hog11:30
AMDXPi cant get it to work11:30
AMDXPYou don't have permission to access /apache2-default/jinzora2/index.php on this server11:30
burning_bronxcomplete remove it and install BitTornado11:30
burning_bronx.11:30
viri know it is burning_bronx  :P11:30
virall java is11:30
burning_bronxthen don't use it11:31
burning_bronxuse bittornado11:31
TigerDuckI wonder if it's better to upgrade hoary to breezy or to freshly install breezy. Any recommendations? .... thanks11:31
viri thought i'd try running it with xubuntu11:31
burning_bronx:O11:31
vir:P11:31
void^as long as you've got more than 128m there should be no problem with azureus11:31
burning_bronx!bittornado11:31
ubotuburning_bronx: I don't know11:31
AMDXPdo I have to actually start php11:31
burning_bronxhmm11:31
burning_bronx!bittorrent11:31
ubotuwell, bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html11:31
cmathesonAMDXP: you probably didn't make it excecutable11:31
irvinAMDXP, sudo chmod a+rw -R11:31
burning_bronx!azureus11:31
ubotu[azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo11:31
coNPvir: install RAM :)11:31
nickrudTigerDuck, is your home directory on a separate partition?11:32
plagerismHow would I find out about security updates??11:32
vircoNP: can't temp comp waiting for my new cpu11:32
TigerDucknickrud: nope11:32
AMDXPwell i have all christmas break to figure it out thanks for the help though11:32
Astxistplagerism, you'd enable the repos for them in sources.list11:32
plagerismI am getting updates from security.ubuntu.com11:32
virice: doom collections that dos by any chance?11:33
plagerismBut I want to know what they are in regards to11:33
burning_bronxx-mas break is not meant for linux studies11:33
Astxistplagerism, and the update manager would tell you automagically11:33
burning_bronxwinter break is for drinking and sex11:33
burning_bronx:/11:33
nickrudTigerDuck, then you probably want to upgrade.11:33
irvinplagerism, there's a mailing list on that11:33
nickrud!tell TigerDuck about breezyupgrade11:33
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Astxistplagerism, hit the description arrow in software updates11:33
irvinplagerism, ubuntu-security-announce@lists.ubuntu.com11:33
TigerDuckthanks nickrud11:33
Astxistplagerism, that gives info on them11:34
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PsycOCraxYsomeone who would like to help me?11:34
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cmatheson!anybody11:35
concept10this Vista-gray theme in gnome is _killer_11:35
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>11:35
AstxistCraxy, if you pick a nick and stick with it ;p11:35
Craxy:D11:35
Astxistconcept10, linky?11:35
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FixionI installed ubuntu, but I can't get the sound to work.  I've gotten the sound to work under straight debian many times, but it just doesn't want to work for me now, how do you get sound to work?11:36
virthe community should get together and create some stunning themes show everyone what the community really want and maybe publish a .deb for it aswell11:36
plagerismThank you Astxist11:37
klaymI'm considering flashing my BIOS that only accepts 136gb of my 200gb hard disk (Award mainboard, 2000). Is k3b good for making the flash cd?11:37
Seveasklaym, k3b can burn about anything...11:37
concept10Astxist, gimme a sec11:37
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Astxistplagerism, np might want to look into what irvin mentioned too if you're into security :)11:37
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Astxistconcept10, sure11:37
plagerismand thank you irvin11:38
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irvinnp plagerism11:38
Craxyi have a problem when installing ubuntu, it doesent find my disks, i have tried change for another disk but it still doesent work. Somebody who has an idea of whats wrong?11:38
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plagerismI am getting errors within my /var/lib/dpkg/available file11:39
plagerismhow do I resolve this??11:39
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burning_bronxyou should all try shutdown11:39
burning_bronxit cures all problems11:39
void^Craxy: your question would be so much better if it included some information about your disks and controllers11:39
cmathesonplagerism: it would help to paste the actual error you are getting11:39
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coderI have dual monitors setup w/ geforce 6600... only problem is, my monitors are backwards.11:39
coderAny help?11:39
plagerismdpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 74269 package `tclparser':11:39
plagerismcmatheson11:40
Fixionis there any way I can find out exactly why sound isn't working?11:40
Mongooseanyone know what GRUB error 17 is?11:40
cmathesonplagerism: hmm,, what is the command you're trying to run?11:40
Astxistcoder, open up xorg.conf and change hte server layout11:40
burning_bronxAstxist, I really need a shutdown11:40
burning_bronxmy brain is overheating11:40
virirish monitors?11:40
plagerismcmatheson, anything to do with apt11:40
Astxistburning_bronx, heh bit late there?11:40
burning_bronxI am dehidrated too11:40
MrProper_coder, what do you mean backwards11:40
cmathesonplagerism: when/why did it start?11:40
burning_bronxwell it's almost 1 AM11:40
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plagerismcmatheson, the file seems to have gotten corrupted11:40
burning_bronxand I haven't had much sleep these days11:41
MrProper_coder, are you using twinview?11:41
coderMrProper_: the heads are reversed.  and yes11:41
plagerismcmatheson, my system may have been compromised last night11:41
Seveasburning_bronx, shall i kick you out to make sure you get some sleep? :)11:41
cmathesonplagerism: hmm, if it may have been compromised you're definitely going to want to backup/reinstall11:41
MrProper_coder, 2 seperate cards or dual headed card?11:41
plagerismcmatheson, I know11:41
plagerismOkay thank you11:41
coderdual head.  6600 gt, dual dvi11:41
burning_bronxSeveas, that would be abusing your rights ;)11:41
concept10Astxist, check out my desktop: http://elfurl.com/visit.php?id=123p11:42
Seveasonly if you don't ask for it :)11:42
burning_bronxlol11:42
burning_bronxdo I look like I am asking?11:42
burning_bronxI will go to sleep soon11:42
MrProper_coder, put this: Option          "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf" under your "Device" section11:42
cafuegoYes, you do.11:42
burning_bronxI won't hold much longer11:42
indyone question, whats the stable version? breezy?11:42
cafuegoindy: Yes11:42
burning_bronxyesh indy yesh11:42
cafuegoindy: also known as 5.1011:42
Craxyvoid^ : may i pm you?11:42
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rinzai-shuindy: Breezy Badger!!!!11:42
MrProper_coder, or simply switch the monitor cables around or move the monitors hehe11:42
void^Craxy: no.11:43
coder=)11:43
coderthanks MrProper_11:43
burning_bronxBreezy stable, Dapper unstable, Groundhog non-existent11:43
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ggellertrappist:  OK.  The other CD-ROM drive worked.  Thanks.11:44
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Craxyokay, anyway the drive is a Maxtor, Diamondmax VL 40 5400 ROM11:44
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Craxy*RPM11:44
TokenBadwith breezy did the oss sound stop working?11:44
Astxistconcept10, nice11:44
burning_bronxpmount /dev/bed11:44
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cafuegoMaxtor, aka Seagate? ;-)11:45
screenresolutioncan anybody tell me how to enable higher resolution?11:45
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Seveas!tell screenresolution about fixres11:45
screenresolutionmax is 640x80011:45
Delgul*plop*11:45
concept10Astxist, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3245911:45
sureshothello it is me again. when i loaded ubuntu it defaulted to the generic 64 bit amd kernel should i load the k8 64 bit kerneel for better operation11:45
TokenBadI can't get oss sound to work but alsa and esd work11:45
cmathesonTokenBad: probably because esd is tying up your sound card11:46
trappistggeller: excellent news11:46
indyok, thank you very much11:46
Craxythe motherboard is a IAWARD, PCI PNP 686 from 199811:46
TokenBadcmatheson, I did killall esd11:46
Astxistconcept10, thanks11:46
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cmathesonTokenBad: what are you trying to use OSS sound for ? and what is the error when you do it?11:47
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cafuegosureshot: Depening on what you mean by "better opeation" your best bet might be to use i386 Ubuntu.11:47
TokenBadI am trying to pick it in multimedia setup..and just says failed to contruct pipeline11:47
Craxyi have a problem when installing ubuntu, it doesent find my disks, i have tried change for another disk but it still doesent work. Somebody who has an idea of whats wrong? the drive is a Maxtor, Diamondmax VL 40 5400 RPM, the motherboard is an IAWARD, PCI PNP 686 from 199811:48
sureshoti have a 64 bit abit mother board with a 64 bit simpron 1.8 ghz process.11:48
indythaks for all of you, you re my heros11:48
cafuegosureshot: I have an amd64 too. i386 software is far more mature and tends to work better. (If you just use the machine as desktop, you should consider it)11:49
steve_laptopok for you laptop users with wifi wlassisant for ubuntu   - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=597441#post59744111:49
burning_bronxwow an AMD64 Sempron11:49
burning_bronxreal beauty isn't she?11:49
burning_bronx;)11:49
virwhats the best bt client available for linux?11:49
sureshotok thanks for the advice. may install that kernel and check it out11:49
burning_bronxvir, the original bittorrent or bittornado11:49
virok11:50
holycowburning_bronx, actually they are quite neat, performance is smooth, and you can't really complain that $40 cpus are now 64bit11:50
pozdiywhere is the systemwide .bashrc on Breezy?11:50
sureshoti am still trying to find info on gambas. it just will not run ... and place you know of. i posted in the forum but that takes time and there is no wiki11:50
burning_bronxthat's what I meant11:50
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Seveaspozdiy, /etc/bash.bashrc11:50
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burning_bronxThere was not a bit of irony in my comment11:50
burning_bronx:)11:50
pozdiySeveas, tnx11:50
ossiecan anyone point me to the nearsest place to get some support compiling new kernel???11:51
cmathesonTokenBad: i'm not sure, i would try running sudo lsof | grep dsp and see if t hat showed up anything11:51
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sureshotossie have  you tried serching the wiki site for info on that11:51
burning_bronxwhat's wrong with semprons?11:51
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ggellerossie: google site:ubuntulinx.org kernel build howto.11:51
Craxyso nobody has a clue about whats wrong?11:51
cmathesonossie: what do you want to compile a new kernel for?11:51
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evermuse_vir if you have a metric ass load of ram azureus is very nice for seeding several files at once11:51
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Seveasmetric ass load is indeed the minimum requirement...11:52
holycowburning_bronx, *high five* :)11:52
SweetestSavageExcuse me, how do I download the decoders/codecs for Totem Movie Player?11:52
zokapeople help11:52
ossieI have gone thorugh that but i have got a make error , i want advice on it11:52
zokazlib11:52
SeveasSweetestSavage, for which format?11:52
zokaI am getting error it seems my dist do not have standard lib zlib11:52
cafuegovir: prosciutto with pear is nice11:52
Seveaszoka, paste the error at the pastebin11:52
SweetestSavageSeveas - Movie formats.. mpeg/avi, the general ones11:52
holycowburning_bronx, we are building like $300 boxes for the office these days and the performance of these things is phenomenal11:52
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cafuegozoka: It does. Are you compiling stuff without knowing how to?11:53
ossiemake[2] : *** [fs/inode.o]  Error 111:53
burning_bronxo_O;11:53
burning_bronxwicked11:53
CraxySeveas do you know what is wrong?11:53
ossieim getting this11:53
SeveasSweetestSavage, gstreamer0.8-* packages or w32codecs with totem-xine11:53
ossiewhen making the kernel11:53
burning_bronxI want a phenomenal 300$ box11:53
burning_bronxxD11:53
Seveasburning_bronx, for the last time: stop being off-topic11:53
Seveasthis is a support channel11:53
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SweetestSavageSeveas, thank you11:53
virwill someone be able to give me a hand with my webcam in a sec please?11:53
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burning_bronxand I support people whenever I can11:53
TigerDuckwow, just 1029 packages *leech*11:53
burning_bronx*sigh*11:53
ossieim trying to add ITE raid driver support11:54
ossieim following a tutorail11:54
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nuxGuruis there a 'guru' here willing to meet me on AIM?11:54
cafuegoossie: Don't.11:54
ossieall goes wel upto the last point11:54
cafuegoossie: Use the controller in IDE mode.11:54
zokahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/603411:54
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Kyral!pastebin11:54
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:54
Seveasossie, look at kernel compile howtos on the wiki11:54
ossiehow do i use it in IDE mode please :)11:54
GHmmm where can i find want version of what was in a certain ubuntu release11:54
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G(i.e like packages.debian.org)11:54
cafuegozoka: Yes, you undoubtedly need the libz1g-dev package11:54
zokahow to get it11:55
ossiei am happy if i had ide mode, but i thought i had to install the driver11:55
CraxySeveas: i have a problem when installing ubuntu, it doesent find my disks, i have tried change for another disk but it still doesent work. Do you have an idea of whats wrong? the drive is a Maxtor, Diamondmax VL 40 5400 RPM, the motherboard is an IAWARD, PCI PNP 686 from 1998.11:55
cafuegoWhy are you compiling stuff?11:55
Seveaszoka, apt-get install libzlib-ruby11:55
Astxistdoes anyone know how to set a system wide variable?11:55
ossiecos i want to add support for my ide raid card11:55
zokathanks11:55
ossieit shows under the device databse11:56
psycoseG http://packages.ubuntu.com/  isn't it funny ?11:56
Astxistand have it for each boot no matter the user11:56
ossiesorry device manager11:56
ossiebut the drives havent appeared11:56
cafuegoossie: Doesn't it just get picked up my the normal ide driver?11:56
Seveasossie, and why do you think you need to recompile for that?11:56
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Seveascan't you simply modprobe the driver....11:56
ossiecos the driver is in source format11:56
Seveasah right11:56
AvenI allowed port 22 on my firewall, is there anything else I need to allow to allow ssh?11:56
Gpsycose, I didn't expect that, but oh well....11:56
Seveasyou have sources for the driver11:56
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ossiei wanted to include the driver in the kernel, i thought that was the only way11:56
cafuegoossie: The RAID one yes.11:56
void^very recent kernels come with the ite8212 driver11:56
Seveasthen you don't need to compile the kernel11:56
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cafuegoossie: That would be the proprietary one, the one you need to avoid.11:57
ossiei have the latest version11:57
Seveasjust install the kernel headers and compile the module11:57
Seveas(which is not trivial, google for a good howto)11:57
nuxGuruis my internal hardware modem located at /dev/ttyS3  ?11:57
cmathesonossie: just install the kernel-headers for whatever kernel your using and go from there11:57
pinkisntwellI tried to launch xscreensaver from the terminal and it would just sit there without giving me back the command prompt, what gives?11:57
ossiehow do i compile the kernel headers???11:57
cmathesonossie: they're headers... you don't compile them11:57
rinzai-shunuxGuru: very likely so.11:57
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crimsun_ossie: you mean install them? apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:57
rinzai-shunuxGuru: try it and see :-)11:57
Craxygaah i wont get any help from you, will I?11:57
burning_bronxthis is too much for me11:58
nuxGurudont know how tto test it11:58
zokahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/603711:58
burning_bronxnight yall11:58
nuxGuruhave not figured out how to access it11:58
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rinzai-shunuxGuru: install minicom and have a go at it11:58
ossiecrimsun, cheers, so if i get the headers i can add support for my raid card, im a bit lost are headers compiled kernel modules???11:58
ossiehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=59730311:58
void^Craxy: hm, you'd have to pastebin output of fdisk -l and dmesg.. but at any rate i don't know anything ubuntu install/setup11:58
nuxGuruis minicom in the Cd release?11:59
ossieim following this tutorial11:59
void^+about11:59
Seveasossie, kernel headers are what you need to compile kernel modules11:59
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